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Papote

07-17-08, 21:28

Well gang, I am a visitor here as I usually travel to CDJ b/c of my proximity to it, I have been in Tucson working for a while so I decided late last night to take a trip to Nog. I said to myself, hell Juarez is bigger and more intimidating and scary and I go like is nothing so why can't I go to Nog. Thanks to the reports of distinction from several regular posters here I kinda knew where to go and how to get there. I thank you for that!

Got to Nogales at around 9:45pm and parked at the McDonnalds (yes I know I paid the $4 fee) and then walked across with no issues. Taxis were all craving for a customer and too bad so sad I was not one of those. He He He. Anyways, after walking for a bit and getting acquainted with the town I venture into Obsession, (please note that all the other clubs were closed because of water flood in the street). Went in and paid $5 and first beer free (just as previous reports explained). So I sit down with my beer and try to get a feel for the atmosphere and of course here is the waiter trying to act like his my buddy and nagging the shit out of me. You all know the drill, did you see anything you like? Which one is it going to be? Let me know and I can bring her to sit here with you? Gezzz, I mean, I do not look gringo at all, but I am not Mexican either. I do speak fluent spanish as it is my first language and am a not so knob monger. So I brush him off and continue to check out the girls walking and the ones that dance here and there. I must say that the club was kinda slow as it was a Wednesday. However, there was this cutie, georgeous face, small body, almost and I want to say almost no belly, outstanding ass, small breast, I would give her a solid 7. So I continue drinking and eyeing her from across the room as time passes.

By this time I am already in the club for like 1 1/2 hr and here comes walking in this SuperFine girl with amassing headlights walking in with blue jeans and a yellow tight shirt on top. The waiter keep nagging me about getting her and that she was also working (as he kindly put it) but she wasn't dancing today. I was like huh, that is a keeper, so after checking her out, for what seem to me like an eternity, she stands up and walks out with some other dude and I'm like holy shit. Well, I lost that one but oh well I went back to the first one that I had checked out first.

I finally asked the waiter for her name, he said it was Rubi. Well he brought Rubi over and I started talking to her and invited her for a drink. I know, I know the drink rules, get a dance and skip the drinks. However, I feel like this girl was nervous and kind of gave me a vibe as if she was new. So I wanted to feel her out and see what I could cook up. After a couple drinks and a 2 for 1 privado we went back outside. By this time the waiter was getting all anxious and almost begging me to take her out back and have her for 1 hour. No $ discussion, he was just strongly suggesting. I of course decline as I had other plans in mind. I told her in the privado that I had an indiscent proposal for her. She smile and look daze, I was like BLIM BLIM, jackpot as I took that as a sign that she is not very experience on top of the glance I got at her beaver and she was not shaved. I must add that she wasn't shaved but she was trimmed very low, so it was very nice.

When we got back out to the table she kept asking what was the proposal and I told her, look I do not want to beat around the bushes, I do not want to do this with you here. Her faced dropped as if I was rejecting her. After about 5 seconds of her reaction I told her, I want to be with you outside. She goes ahhh, but how do you want to do that. I told her that I wanted this to be between her and me because I know she is in there for the money and I know that the house pretty much keeps most of her hard earned money. I told her, how much do you get out of each of those $11 or $12 drinks and she told me that they only give her $4 for each. So I told her, see! I want the money to be for you and not for the house. She heartily agreed and said OkAY! I'll go with you but keep it between us, no-one can know otherwise I could even get fired. I told her no worries and we sketched the plan. By this time is already 1:15am and I got her cell # but I just told her that I would wait for her by the taxis and she said yeah that's good.

Let's fast forward a bit cause even though I want to narrate this whole story to encourage other first timers to visit noggie I know that is getting long. So she meets me outside dressed in her street clothes and we took a walk and ventured into Hotel Fray Marcos De Niza; again, I know, I know this is not the cheapest hotel in town as I read a bunch of post here and even found pancho villa's hotel before I found the TD club. Hotel cost $66 and they didn't look at her twice, no problems with hotel whatsoever. I had already agreed with her on a price of $200 and clearly stated that I wanted to spend the night with her. Once we got upstairs the fun begins. After talking for a bit and getting to know each other and putting her at ease (she was freaking out, like she's never done this before) I started to kiss her and undress her. She was getting into it as I started to kiss those perky little titties and suck on the nipples. OMG, she has the most tasteful nipples, like 1/2 inch long and just tasty. Anyways, back to the report, I was playing with her pussy and started to DATY and she was already going crazy and pulling on my hair and saying "ahi SI, ASI! " as I started to put my 2 middle fingers inside her dripping wet pussy. I then curved my fingers inside her and started to massage her G spot and after like 1 min of her going crazy and pulling on the sheets and saying AHI SIIIII, ASIIIII, she came hard and ALMOST, again, ALMOST squirted out. She did wet the bed as she was dripping her juices all over and her legs were shaking like crazy. After that time I repeated the same process two more times to make it a total of three times she came and I had not even fuck her yet.

I let her rest for like 10 mins while she was shivering everywhere and couldn't take a grin off of her face and kept telling me that she has never cum that hard or that often in one night. So I told her that now is my turn and she tells me that she has never done a BJ before, like I believed her, but after a couple mins of her embarrassments she proceeded to stroke it and give her a few kisses and then took it in and suck on it for a little bit. I must say that for a girl that has never done a BJ she did a decent job. Now it was time to see how that pussy felt. I put her in doggy style put my helmet, dived in and pounded away for a while, I never even care to change positions, the view was outstanding as her ass was bouncing and if I stopped for a second she was continuing dancing on it with reggaeton moves that were awesome, also seeing her grabbing the bed sheets and burying her face in the bed to let out a few screams was more than enough to keep me happy in that position as I knew with no doubt that it was all real and she was having a good time. After a while I blew my earth shattering load inside of her. After that we talked some more as she was all mine, she had surrendered her all, she was treating me like a 1 year old boyfriend. We then hugged and kissed for a while, as I caressed her and she caressed me and we felt sleep in each others arms.

The next day once we woke up was very good too but this report is already long as it is. So to summarized all this, I paid her $200 for an all night long of fun and I paid $66 for Hotel and I paid her a two for one privado for $23 and four drinks $47 as three cost me $12 and one cost me $11. All in one included it cost me less than $350 for an all niter in Nogales. In my book this was a very good night and not outrageously expensive for the whole event. I posted three pictures of her, one of which she transfered herself from her cell into mine using bluetooth because she wanted me to have that picture of her. I will see this girl again if possible, she was the best GFE experience I have had in a while while mongering and definitely a bad-ass time in Nogales as a First Timer.

For all the fellow mongers that are considering going to nogales but are threaten or feel that they need a guiding hand I will say that you guys can do it on your own. Just venture out, like everywhere else watch your surroundings, try to stay in well light roads, do not engage in conversation with shady people in the streets, and walk and act like your not a total stranger, don't act like you own the place, you don't want to attract unwanted or questionable attention, but act comfortable in your own skin and people will look at you in the streets and you will just blend in.

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Gallo Ingles

07-18-08, 12:54

nice work papote...she is lovely and i enjoyed your trip vicariously...

Precocious One

07-18-08, 15:11

SpreadInk

07-20-08, 04:09

Papote

07-20-08, 23:45

Papote-

Great report. Hopefully you got her phone number. She is absolutley gorgeous and a total keeper. If you live here, that's the kind of girl you try to put on a $800/month retainer for exclusive rights if she'll agree to it.

Not that it matters much, but was the BJ BB? Out here in Monterrey, about 70-80 percent of the girls won't do BBBJ in the MP's on your first visit.Yes, it was a BBBJ and she never even asked me or said anything about it, she just went straight up and did it. I did get her Phone # before we even left the club as she proposed I call her from a hotel that was across the street from Obsession but I just decided for the Fray Hotel as I wanted to show this little Gem a nice time and treat her damn good as I plan to make multiple visits with her and I want to make sure she remembered her time with me.

From what I read on post before I headed down there I though that it was not common for girls to do BBBJ in Nog but then again it may be and I just got lucky. I think I did anyways. Any other questions ask away and I will clarify. By the way thanks for the seal of approval. It is a mongers honor to be given such approval by fellow mongers. It just makes it that much more memorable.

Papote

07-20-08, 23:49

nice work papote...she is lovely and i enjoyed your trip vicariously...My pleasure Gallo. It is to me the upmost compliment when a fellow monger acknowledges a memorable trip and enjoys the events.

Thank you and I will see her again and see what happens in the 2nd go around.

I will post whatever happens, maybe will give it a whirl this coming week.

Papote

07-21-08, 00:00

Great looking girl! I have never stayed at the Fray, glad to hear they gave you no trouble. I may have to give them a try. Usually I stay at the Pancho Villa, King size beds and stumbling distance. I look forward to hearing more reports.Just like the previous posters, thanks for your vote of approval. I will try the Pancho villa next time around because it will save another $22 on the tab as the Pancho villa I think is $44 and the Fray was $66. Thanks for letting me know about the Pancho Villa, I did not know it was King size bed. The Fray was a Queen size at least, I didn't pay much attention to the bed, or the room for that matter, I was too much into her and got a little preoccupied as you may understand. Damn it, just remembering all the events now and I want to see her. Papote says to himself "You will Buddy, You Will"

SpreadInk

07-22-08, 02:10

Sometimes a queen size bed just will not do.

Lobo 003

07-22-08, 08:59

I went to Nogi Saturday to have some fun, got it then some.

I wanted to check out the flood damage for my self, what a f***ing mess, big hole in the street in front of the old Lord Black building, they told me the water was 5 feet high and flooded all the way to Boleiros with minimal damage there. Google Nogales floods and see the pics for yourself. Cherries closed forever due to excessive damage and abandonment by the owners for illegal activity, the massage parlor next to it closed due to flood damage, Lord Black is open and all dried out, 69 and Boleiro also open and of course Obsessions where all the girls went after the floods. VIP was closed and I don't know why, sorry.

The entrances to the strip clubs hugging the railroad tracks where Boleiro is are closed off you will need to go around by VIP and and use the back entrance to the clubs. Local cops were everywhere and made me nervous but everything was cool, no problems with the policia.

On another point I believe I touched on a previous post was that the city of Nogales Sonora was trying to remove the strip clubs from their current location and keep it a historic zone, but now with the flood damage there is renewed talk of removing the buildings that make up are favorite locations from Cherries, Lord Black, Boleiro all the way to VIP completely demolishing them and moving the water run off channel that is now damaged right where our favorite hangouts presently reside. The talk is they want to move them to New Nogales, that's over by the Nogales Mall about a 15 to 20 minute drive into the heart of Nogales. In my opinion it's a better place, cleaner more modern, they have live concerts in the area where all of our little putitas go to have a good time. There is a more US feel, Burger king, Mcdonalds, Autozone are all located near by, the only problem is that it's a good distance away from the border, you can not walk there, you will either need to drive or take a taxi, they do have many hotels in the area I should know wink, wink.

Also, whether they decide to demolish our favorite places or not the clubs will be closed down for 2 months the decision will be made Monday July 21. I will keep you posted on their decision. On a positive note Obsessions and VIP will be flooded with girls, I don't know about 69 they will be in the middle of a construction zone.

Now the fun stuff, I just had to see Rubi after seeing her pic posted on the internationalsexguide WOW! Sh**t what a super fine young lady those eyes (I think I'm falling in love again) my friend and I had her cornered, actually he found her first and brought her over and was estatic with his find, we sandwiched her between us talked to her for a bit played with her titties and coochie, then some ugly Hoduran b**tch plopped herself down on my lap and distracted me from Rubi. By the time I excused myself to go to the mens room to get rid of mis ugly, comming back Rubi had gone, by the time I saw her again she was headed home and no she did not want to play after hours, it was her time of the month. I'll tap her the next time I see her. Damn I'm bad.

What I saw, lots of boobs, big nipples I mean big poke your eye out kind of stuff, naked pussy, hairy pussy and lots of lovely asses, former girls, future girls, girls all over the streets. My to do list just keeps getting longer every time I go there, oh well I'll just scratch them off one at a time and hope I never get ahead of myself.

Finally I crossed one of my girls off my to do list, big tits horny as hell, she was dry humping me in the club with her bare pussy and my pants were getting moist not from me but from her, she kept rubbing my grotch with her hand and getting me F**ing hard, I almost poked a hole in my pants, junior wanted to play and she wanted to meet junior. Guess what I did I introduced her to junior and she was happy, me too. She gave me a BBBJ, that's the way I like them, then she impaled herself on my pole, I guess she was pole dancing now at my expense, yeah I like that too, she had 3 orgasms while on top, that b**tch used me to get off can you believe that, I'll let it slide for now. Now it was my turn, layed her down missionary and went to town and we fucked for a while she needed to take a little break and then we went at it again this time I was standing along the bed with her in mish position, man did I make her squeal, fliped her for doggy but that didn't last she was not comfortable with that position so we went back to mish and I pounded her sweet pussy again untill she no longer could take it. She asked me how come my pussy hurts, I was confused for a second and she told me it hurts near her belly button and the entrance to her pussy and I figured it out she was sore, damn another demolished pussy and one that can't go the distance, I guess I'll have to train her for endurance fucking.

Today while writing this post I didn't realize how hard I fucked her, shit my calves, legs and pubic bone are sore, that just means, mission accomplished, another fun time in Nogi. Untill next time.

LOBO

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Lobo 003

07-22-08, 09:06

My trick make the girl feel comfortable, make her smile and don't ask for it, just let it happen. I have a pretty good batting average for BBBJ and I have never asked for it. Maybe it's just me.

LOBO

Mr Chub

07-22-08, 22:55

003, as always, nice report. You're the fucking man! Nice report from Papote as well. Rubi is hot as hell.

Have the prices in the bars gone done due to the floods and the US economy?

I'm hoping to make an appearance in the next few weeks.

Thanks,

Mr Chub

Lobo 003

07-23-08, 09:14

The funny thing about prices in Nogales is that they have not gone down, on the surface that is. Inside the clubs they still try to charge you $180 FS, but they are much more negotiable now, not only the girls but management as well. The best you can do is $150 in most TDs, some are getting creative and not charging you for taking the girl out of the club (no house fee)

Independants and street girls are a better bargain I came across some very hot girls on the streets and they wanted $60 FS, average asking price is $100. Remember it's only the asking price, negotiate like your buying a used car, your wallet and your willy will appreciated you.

All the girls are complaning about the lack of money, massage parlors are dead for customers.

When I walk in the clubs many of the girls eye me like a piece of candy more so now than before, they know I have money to spend. , and they know I'm looking for a piece of sweet Mexican panocha. They all know my agenda.

Remember not to rush in and get a girl as soon as you step into to the club let it build up and make them sweat, make them think you got a shit load of money and your just waiting for the right girl to come by.

Happy hunting, f**ing, you now what I mean.

LOBO

SpreadInk

07-25-08, 03:59

Lobo,

I agree with you and frequently never take their first offer. It is like buying a car and I found it funny, but fitting. These girls are all like different cars with varying mileage and design and room for luggage (Junk in the trunk?). Never has the the phrase YMMV been so precise. Depending upon which club/dealership you go into Obsessions or 69 for newer sleeker rides or VIP Lord Black's for used vehicles. Each has their Men with ties/Salespeople and each girl/car has her asking price or sticker shock depending on how you view it or can afford it. As for me, I just want to go for a little joy ride, check out the snug interior and enjoy that new car smell!

SpreadInk

07-25-08, 04:42

When I'm in Nogales, I have found that in the past 2-3 years I have received the most mileage from Lust. I know its a little hole in the wall spot, but I swear, I have seen and done some serious shit in there, that if I didn't have pictures, then no one would have believed me. For starters, they have the most relaxed rules for the girls than any of the other clubs. I have never seen Beer soaked girl on girl shows at any of the other clubs. How about a sex oil and hot wax show? Yup, I instigated that one and had a whole table of college guys, cheer me on and buy me beers and shots claiming I am the man. They all know me at Lust and the ones that don't, wonder who the fuck I am. Lust is the easiest club to have a great time in and here is why. they have a very accomodating staff. They have Indio and Antonio who work the door, both speak fluent english and will gladly translate if you don't speak spanish. Fortunatley, I do speak a very broken form of spanish, but after a couple of beers it all comes back. You have Sergio the waiter who is awesome and waits on you hand and foot. Usually when I arrive, I give Sergio my bag and some money while he gets me my room. He negotiates in spanish and saves me the Americano upcharge. When I arrive it is usually around 11pm in the evening. Why? I am too old (40) to drink all day, besides when I get there some other poor sucker has paid the expensive ficha drinks, and I can tell which girl has drank the most based upon the number of bracelets that they get for each ficha drink. If you look at the pictures I will try to post, you will see the bracelets that I am talking about. These girls all know how to party and are not afraid of kicking it up a notch or two if provided the right incentive. I have never gone upstairs and had a privado, instead I have two girls, one for each lap, and we are doing stuff the onlookers wish they were doing. I have tipped the doormen, bought drinks for everyone that works there at one time or another so, they know me and let me get away with things that are not the norm. Do you remember that scene in Blade when the vampires were partying up in the penthouse, one of the vampires was making out with one chick while getting blown by another. Yup, done that there too. As long as you take care of those around you, they too will take care of you. On an average night the staff will make $10-15.00 bucks a night, the girls only get $4.00 out of that $13.00 ficha drink, so tips are very well respected and responded to. So, back to partying at Lust, it's now 3 or 4am and the bar is closing you have two girls with you and you wait for the bar to close. You really get to see the dynamics of the club when it closes. The bartender buys everyone a drink, including one for yours truly. You hear, the girls, drunk and anxious to leave or wait for their cabs. We stumble over to Pancho Villas and get our groove on.

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Lobo 003

07-25-08, 12:17

That little hole in the wall has been my little secret for awhile, I've done 9 girls from there not only in their club but also takeout. I avoided that place like the plague for a long time and then I decided to check it out again, I was fucking blown away with the quality of girls there, I wanted to fuck every girl in there so I made my list and crossed them off one at a time. I usually tell my next girl that she is next and to be ready when I return they just grin with a naughty little smile and say OK when are you coming back.

I've developed a good reputation and I'm treated with VIP privilages. Now that the cat is out of the hat I hope I can still have a good time in there.

I know I will the girls know me for fucking the shit out of there little pussies and leaving them sore and exhausted they talk amongst themselves and wait with anticipation when it's their turn. Once they ride the LOBO they want to do again and again. Ahh, the life of a monger.

LOBO

Lil Bear

07-27-08, 20:13

LoveLOS,

I found this to be very informative as I was looking to venture into Nogi or somewhere in Sonora in the near future. I'm trying to find a spot to go to that is close by, since Sonora is the nearest state in Mexico I figure go and check it out. I hope it is a good experience and if not I will venture into one of the other cities searching for action.

Lil Bear

07-29-08, 00:14

Also can anyone tell me what is the safety like out there. I hear that Nogi is like the TJ of Arizona. If that is true all the madness and kidnapping and stuff that is going on in TJ got me thinking twice about a trip. I'm thinking about going there in January and I was looking for any tips about Nogi or any other spot in Sonora that might be a good place to visit. Any info is greatly appreciated.

Lobo 003

07-29-08, 09:37

Safety in Nogi,

I myself have never had a problem and I go there day and night. Just do your business don't get excessively drunk,( a drunk person is a target for the cops) always know where the cops are for your peace of mind, not that they are a problem it's just better to be safe than sorry, respect the law and learn the customs and you will be fine.

Status quo on the flooded repairs, no scheduled closures for now, same damage as the week before, Mexico is slow to clean up.

On a sad note we lost a girl due to a car accident, her name was Rubi. Dulce and Rubi who work at Lord Black were traveling near Hermosillo when they were involved in a terrible traffic accident. Dulce who is 18 years old and works out at a gym suffered severe injuries but still lives probably because of her strong and resilient body, I know this one personally very nice friendly girl. Rubi I'm told that I"ve met her but can not recall as of yet, tragically has passed away, may she rest in peace. This paragraph is for those that knew them.

Boleiro, they really got under my skin Saturday, they all had attitudes, bouncers, waiters and girls, One girl blew me off, ouch, don't ask me what I did because I don't know, another girl was reluctant to see me because I wanted service a particular way, that is FS without a condom. I told her that I never said that, but she insisted, then I pulled out a handfull of condoms, see I play safe, all I got from her was a private dance. She was making it difficult for me to have a good time, she was a little reluctant about being touched, she's usually very fun, then I told her fuck it I won't touch you anymore, then she threw herself at me, what gives,??? I give up !!!. The way things were going in there I was afraid to do anything, needless to say we couldn't get out of there fast enough. My buddy had problems with his private dance as well and three other Americans were blown off by two dancers the only reason I know, is that they made a big scene.

At another club I had a difficult time with one of my favorite girls, she knows I always get 1 1/2 hours of playtime in their accomodations. She argued with me over the extra 30 minutes, she only wanted to do 1 hour and she discussed this point with me for, get this , 1 hour !!! I kept reminding her of how long she was stuck on this point and she agreed with me, but still nothing. She told me she wanted to see if she could make more money before we went in the back room, I responded if you leave now don't return you will not make less of me. Standing up she could not go to another customer she told me she felt bad, a couple minutes passed then I placed my hands on her hips and pushed her to move on. In any event I still had fun with for an hour out in the club, massaging her, talking and of course playing with her goodies, and it didn't cost me anything. What a F**cking weird night.

As for myself I managed to have fun, I made arrangements earlier with a dancer for after work fun and she agreed. My time came and went and she did not show up, so she left me scratching my head, but somehow I knew I was going to see her again. After all the weirdness that was had this night we proceeded to check out the night clubs. While in the processes of walking to Calle Obregon I bumped into one of my street hustlers, chatted a while and I asked him what was on the menu, he said he new a couple of new girls, so on our way back from the night clubs we meet up again and informed me that they were at a night club so we doubled back to check them out. We reached the club and went inside to check it out, it was pretty nice, the name escapes me, on our exit my hustler was there with these two gorgeous girls, and guess what girl was there, the one and only girl that I had a date with earlier and stood me up. I joked with her about standing me up, at first she said she didn't think I was serious then she said she forgot, I poked some more then I got the truth she was a little apprehensive about meeting with me, she only met me that night, I guess that's forgivable.

We got a hotel and did our thing, shy, face of a magazine model, breath taking beauty, low mileage, 19 years, very inexperienced, nice full tits and super tight, junior couldn't get in, you should have seen her face everytime I tried to penetrate, she grimised and I couldn't tell if it was pain or pleasure I asked her if she was ok she said I'm fine it's kinda of a good hurt, OK ???. We did girl on top, doggie, and mish. She would not blow me I don't think she knows how or allow me DATY, she told me nobody ever ate her, well, how about tonight, she wasn't ready. In any event I pounded that sweet hairy pussy 'till she was sore and couldn't go any longer. I got her number for a future rendezvous and to meet her friends, these girls are hot I meet super hot, hot ,hot.

I learned something knew about one of the Strip Clubs, actually it's what I found and I'm not telling untill I go through my new harem. Once I'm fat and sassy and had my fill I will spill the beans.

LOBO

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Lobo 003

07-30-08, 01:48

I forgot to mention that my mission for Saturday was to find Agua Prieta prices in Nogi and to see if I could also find a 2 for 1 special. I'm getting closer on the low end prices of Agua Prieta the price I found was $50 FS and my 2 for 1, found it 2 girls for $100 FS one hour. I passed on it because they were a little on the plump side, very pretty and very doable, some other time, besides I had other plans with my newly discovered talent.

Latest on the flood damage, seems that the city of Nogales Mex. is going to wait untill the monsoons are over to implement repairs.

Just keeping you informed.

LOBO

Lil Bear

07-30-08, 02:08

Lobo003 thanks for the info. I was wondering what you meant by knowing where the cops are at out there? I'm trying to get as much info because I was interested in going to Nogi. I live in Socal but I've been hearing and seeing on the news so much about TJ, that trip is out of the question. So the next best thing is Nogi or Puerto Peñasco. The cops in Nogi do they look to hassle and haggle people for no reason? Because if so that kinda makes me think twice about going. Also what are some of the prices and good places to visit out there in Nogi? All info is appreciated.

SpreadInk

07-30-08, 15:55

Lobo 003

07-30-08, 18:26

Here are a few examples of what cops will or not do in Nogi:

Saturday night I was walking Calle Obregon checking out the dance clubs and there must have been 50 cops keeping order and doing spot checks, my buddy and I walked right amongst them with no problem althoughed my buddy was in a bit of a panic. We came out of El Tecolote 5 more cops went by, we and the cops crossed paths and no problem.

Another example 2 cops walked into Boleiro checked out the place looked around and left.

Worst case example, One customer that I am aware of who comes a few times a year becomes excessivelly drunk and the cops harass him, he's usally ganged up by 3 or 4 cops trying to drag him to jail. His street hustler usually saves him by paying the cops $30 or $40 dollars. If the cops harass you there just trying to squeeze a little money out of you, so always carry a little extra cash for emergencies.

So like I mention before in my earlier post obey the law don't do anything stupid, walk with a purpose, don't hustle the working girls on the street when the cops are around, thats what the hustlers are for, they get arrested on a regular basis, the cops will not mess with you unless you give them a reason.

I'll be down there on Saturday.

LOBO

SpreadInk

07-31-08, 03:46

One of the things that I find funny about reading about Nogales is that no one ever mentions the various other clubs in Nogales. Did any of you know that Nogales had some really cool bars and dance clubs. I was recently blown away by how upscale some of the clubs were in Nogales. A couple of dancers took me to Dubai, a new club, that was very impressive! They had a lot of really pretty girls there and the music and video display were top notch, on par with what I find in Scottsdale, without the attitude. Earlier we were in a karaoke bar that was really nice and there was a sports bar that I wanted to try (maybe next time). We had a great time dancing and there were many girls to be had, take a look at the pictures and check out the ratio of girls to guys, we were outnumbered! Guys, take a moment and try out the nightlife! There are a lot of girls to be had, if you got game.

Lil Bear

07-31-08, 03:55

The police in Nogi are like any other police force, as long as you are not stupid and belligerent, you will have no hassles at all. I have crossed over in a double breasted Hugo Boss suit, drove straight from work and walked across and had no trouble walking around partying the whole night. So, it's not a matter of looking like you have money, it's just a matter of being or doing something stupid. Just use your common sense and don't be stupid. If a tout comes up and asks you if you want coke or weed just as you cross the border and you say yes, well, that's being stupid. Pissing in the streets, stupid. Got too drunk, stupid. Get the picture? If you are interested in Nogi or Rocky Point give me a PM, maybe I can break away and show you around. Any takers?Thanks SpreadInk. That's something I don't have to worry about, because I definitely don't do none of the above. I always look at people that overboard with the partying, (I mean really overboard with their partying), outside of the country. I mean, don't get me wrong I like to have a good time when I go out, but I have a fear of what I see happen to those hardcore, don't care until they're in some type of trouble, (whether with the police or natives), happening to me. I mean I've been to places like Brazil and I've had a friend experience being drugged and robbed. Now once again he did things I would've been waaaaaaay more cautious about, but I always say to each his own. I know my limits and I know I like to travel out of the country, but I ALSO like the fact of being able to COME HOME HASSLE FREE, you know what I mean. I go out and have a blast but I don't get carried away, literally, because for some reason I just don't trust the police in other countries. I always feel they have some type of hidden agenda. If you can give me some info on good spots to visit while out there it would help out a lot.

Thanks again.

Lobo 003

07-31-08, 09:10

I agree with Spreadink, everyone that goes down south needs to check out the other night life, If you think the girls are pretty in the strip clubs wait untill you see what's at the dance clubs and on the streets near the clubs, their beauty is enough to bring tears to your eyes.

Don't forget the daytime shift, the girls in the restaurants, all the small shops. I was really getting some eye contact with a girl in a candy store, I chatted with her for a while untill her father showed up. I onced found a girl over at the grocery store (vh ) at a jewelry stand.

Club Dubay, kick ass club gets really crowded after 10pm. Extremely well worth it, $5 dollar cover.

Club Street is one that I'm going to check soon it's about a block away from Dubay and painted like a bumble bee, black and yellow stripes.

And so many more all within walking distance, if you get bored in one move on to the next, then the next, just like the TDs.

Oh and don't forget the after hours clubs, they start at 4am.

When you due the daytime shift the TDs at night and dance clubs then the after hour clubs like I've done on numerous occasions, man !!! does that wear you out.

Have fun guys.

LOBO

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Scarab

08-05-08, 23:16

Nogales flooded again this afternoon. A friend from Nogo called to tell me that the border crossing was closed.

Don Tonto

08-07-08, 09:27

Nogales flooded again this afternoon. A friend from Nogo called to tell me that the border crossing was closed.In 2007, I was in Nogales during a big rain, so I can imagine how it must be now. I remember thinking that you could almost use a boat to paddle down the street.

SpreadInk

08-07-08, 16:36

Maybe the timing would be right to head on down this weekend and test the waters (so to speak)in the clubs, and see what can be negotiated. This weekend is a maybe, but the following weekend would be a definative yes.

Any takers, pm me.

Lobo 003

08-12-08, 08:43

I tried a new hotel in Nogi called Hotel Colonial, across the street from VIP, fantastic accommodations super clean, great air conditioning, a lot like american hotels except they are not girl friendly. I managed to walk in with my date, first because it was early in the day and second she was with me getting the room, they also told me no extra company allowed. Later on that evening they had a doorman guarding the entrance, nice gentleman very friendly, but he seen me walking with some of the street hustlers and then comming back from the VIP strip club, he gave me a funny look witch made me uneasy. I tried to hookup with another girl that evening I was 30 yards from the entrance to the hotel in my hustlers car making my deal, I tried but no cigar. I was trying a new trick with the girls I told them that I only had X ammount of dollars left from all my spending that evening, they wanted their usuall $100 I told them $70 they first said no then they asked for how long ,I told them 1 1/2 hours they through a fit, they negotiated down to 1 hour for $100 and I said no and I started to exit the car, they countered with 40 minutes for $70 I started walking, then they agreed to one hour for $70 I told them to forget it and told my hustler to take them home. My point for doing this is to bring prices down, I've just phsychologically set these girls mind up for $70. Besides, to much haggling means to much trouble in bed. Also To much bitching makes a weinie go limp where's the fun in that.

I don't recommend Hotel Colonial if your going to get multiple girls for the night, however if your doing an all nighter with one girl then it's a great place to stay.

It's a bit expensive for Nogales at $56 for the night, and they want to hold an ID card untill you check out. So my overall recommendation for this hotel for mongering is a very strong NO!

Hotel Granada is closed.

The street were all the strip clubs are still looks like a war zone, up around hotel 47 the street looks like a river bed with flowing water, muddy as hell.

All the regular clubs are open and operating, Lust is dead right now, no girls and no customers this is were I found, by comming in for the day shift my little stash of new girls, they are all gone and not working anymore, but I got their numbers and they are young of legal age and oh so deliciously tight I get goose bumps just thinking about them. I wonder who I will call next week??? Oh yeah !!! I know who. I'm such a dirty bastard.

On another note I was offered a partnership to open a massage parlor in Nogi, Hmmm, I'll have to do some investigating and deep thinking on this. You mongers just might have an american friendly enterprise down there, just don't hold your breath there's to many things that can go wrong. Most importantly for me free girls,... Yeah baby, that's what I'm talking about!!!

LOBO

Guidos

08-17-08, 09:06

Tonight I traveled to Nogi for the very first time. I went to Lust! What a place! Its a whole in the wall, but there are some nice looking ladies. I fu*ked the girl named Nadia. Awesome! She really knows what to do with a co*k. I'm planning another trip next weekend.

Lobo 003

08-18-08, 09:25

Our poor US economy is really hurting the Mexican tourist economy, I was talking to several hustlers and they told me that it's real bad for them right now, one even said that he has not sceen it this bad in the past 6 years that he has been living there. I told him to tell the girls to drop their prices and more Gringos would come. He agreed with me that the girls were over priced.

Women are cheap if you know where and whom to talk to. My latest appetizers were 2 girls one 18 and the other 21 years old, super adorable and tight at $70 US each ( the girls tipped out $15 each to the hustler so they actually received $55 each). Cost for these honeys $140 for 2 girls $10 tip to hustler $25 for hotel total $175 for the pair, does not include the cost of gas. See, my tactics are working don't be afraid to negotiate. I finally got my hustlers inline with my prices.

Boleiro, I think the management is going to price themselves right out of business, they raised the prices on all drinks .50 cents, it's still managable, but privados are $25.30, don't ask me were they got the .30 cents, and after you tip the guy downstairs your pushing $30 for the dance, to fu*cking much, besides they are still very aggresive with you buying a girl a drink, if the waiters have not managed to upsell to a drink in 3 attempts, management pulls her from you. I think there will be an exodus of dancers from this club based on the gripes I heard from the girls.

A little insight on Boleiro:

If you have a girl you like and are getting along with her and you want her to stick around, by her a drink on the waiters third attempt.

The girls are only supposed to hang around for two songs per purchased drink to her. Keep her busy and stretch that drink out, as long as there is liquid in the girls drink they won't bother you.

You don't want to buy her a drink, maybe you'll buy a dance? when the waiters try to upsell to a drink just tell them your going to do a privado and to give you a little time for introductions. This little trick has worked wonders for me in this club. If you don't really want a privado just come up with some excuse, lame or otherwise.

If you don't know what you are buying or what they are communicating always say NO!!!

Want full service never agree to the girls first offer always counter and make her wait. This applies to all clubs.

Always buy a drink for yourself and if you don't want another drink leave a little at the bottom of the glass ,bottle etc. This will keep them off your back.

These are just s few tips for happy partying in Boleiros.

One peculiar thing I have noticed with the clubs in Nogi is that from time to time the popularity of certain clubs changes, right now Boleiro is holding on to a precarious lead, but to me it appears that Obsessions is prepared to dethrown Boleiro. Many years ago the old Lord Black was hot, then Placers was the place to be, (the new Lord Black), 69 was pretty hot for awhile. That is what I like about south of the border entertainment, it stays fresh.

Obsessions was hot last Saturday plenty of the girls from Boleiro were working there plus many new ones.

69 was closed, I don,t have any info

Many girls available outside the clubs and all were idle and desperately wanting work.

My recommendations is to patronize Obsessions and Lord Black and if we did that most girls would want to work there. They have the most relaxed atmosphere, easy going and cool wait staff. Followed by Lust ,they are a kind of up and down club, sometimes they will be pushy other times thay are not, their girl quality has been fluctuating, lately it's been a hit and miss scenario.

I hope this helps. Just doing my 2 cents

LOBO

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SpreadInk

08-19-08, 14:57

Guidos

08-21-08, 01:22

Yeah man! I took your word for it and I'm glad I did. This girl had the best ass ever and had some great tata's! I just wish she would have let me give her a money shot. Oh well. Maybe next time.

Dirty Tom

09-09-08, 05:36

Howdy,

Anyone wanna join me to a trip mid-week on around 23rd Sept. to Nogi for a quick exploration in the evening/night?

PM me ...

Lobo 003

09-15-08, 04:38

I should have of reported this about two weeks ago and I appoligize, the drug cartels have been terrorizing Nogales Sonora for control of the city just like in Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez. Various gun battles have occured and murders mostly with each other, Dubay night club was threatened and closed 2 weeks ago, the night life has slowed to a crawl all the local citizens are paniced and scared. There was a big article in our local newspaper Sept 14 2008 so the locals know the cituation down south. Mongers who come from other parts of the nation or countries please be advised of the cituation and be safe if you attempt to travel to Nogales Sonora. I will probably travel to Nogi mid week for day shopping and some play time and will probably go Saturday night, so I will keep you posted on how things are progressing.

Be safe.

LOBO

Lobo 003

09-22-08, 08:40

The peoples feelings with regard to the drug wars is much more calm everybody is out and about, a little apprehensive with the situation and moving forward with their lives. I was told that one of the drug cartels has pretty much gained control over Nogales, so things should start to calm down. The clubs are open althought the dance club Dubay is very poorly attended due to their bomb scare several weeks back.

First time in my life that I heard gun fire in Nogales Sonora, it was in the distance but no doubt gun fire.

The cops are starting to become a problem especially with the locals, they are randomly stopping cars and inspecting the cars and occupants, I can't argue with their tactics especially with the drug war. I didn't see them mess with any tourist but I expect it will spill over. The locals tell me the cops are taking advantage of the drug problem and profiting by stopping cars and people and shaking them down with the purpose of getting money.

I provide this information so that you may make a informed decision as to your travels.

No more gloom, now the good stuff:

All the strip clubs are extremely slow, very minimal street action in the normal places all the girls are crying for money and yet they still quote their inflated prices, go figure.

Obsessions is still in the middle of their remodeling, I chatted with the owner and he said he traveled to Tucson to get ideas for his club and he really liked Curves Cabaret, so now based on what I'm seeing we are going to have a Curves type club in Nogi.

All the clubs have increased the price of their drinks and dances. Lord Black charged me $26 for a privado and I tipped the guy $2, $28 for a privado I don't think so, I personally will not buy any more private dances at any clubs with exception of one. If you go down their with the attitude that money is no problem then have at it and party like there is no tommorrow, but as for me I'm done with private dances. I don't get it, their economy is in the shit hole, there is no money from the Mexicans and none from the Americans and they raise their prices. I think it's time for me to find another town in Mexico to party in, I'll keep an eye out.

The only one that has a grasp on reality is Lust, normal priced drinks, decent price for the girls, very accomodating relaxed atmosphere. They have $10 privados and they are f**king long dances. Itty bitty rooms but for $10 bucks, a mouth full of titties and some hot pussy, sign me up. I just wish he would get more and prettier girls in there.

Ok now for my play thing this past Saturday 20 something slim about a solid 7 small titties and a furry coochie cost me $60 for an hour, hows that for some cheep hot coupling. She gave me CBJ, mish, doggy and girl on top and I fingered her untill she was wet and ready whitch didn't take to long, she said she hadn't had a guy in about 2 weeks and she wanted some man meat and tight, damn I like a tight coochies. I met her at a little taco restaurant, not them portable ones you see on the corners, she was there having supper, we greeted when I entered and I didn't think much of it. While I was munching on my tacos little by little she got the courage to talk to me and approached me with her services I kept blowing her off and told her I was not interested I was tired and was getting ready to go home, it was almost 3am, she would walk out the door then come back in and smile then crack a joke then stair at me and I still said no, this went on for about 20 minutes. She finally came and told me here's my prices if your interested and I still blew her off. By now her personality was winning me over, once I was done eating she invited me into a taxi to convince me and to check out the merchandise, needless to say I checked and checked and checked and we agreed to $60 for one hour full service. I like my foreplay Ha, Ha that was fun.

Here are some tips for you mongers out there who venture into Nogi. Tip #1 taco restaurant, semi outdoor, fantastic fresh carne asada tacos (steak tacos) $1. 50 each very good eating stay away from the salsa, also a good place to hook up with girls leaving work. Some stop in and a lot of them walk right by there after work, time to be their 3am. Its located between the massage parlor and VIP strip club.

Tip #2 Night club Codigo (bar, dance) a lot of working girls hang out there, it's kind of their base of opperation.

Tip#3 Hang out along Calle Obregon near the dance clubs and if you look like a gringo the girls of all ages will hit on you, Also many working girls walk the street back and forth looking for work. I counted 8 some I all ready new others were new to me, most of them wanted $80 to $100 for playtime.

Tip#4 New massage parlor open, the same one I was invited to be a partner with, I however backed out so I have no financial interest in this enterprise. He's a good friend of mine and I thought I would try to throw him some business, because he is really hurting. Location: right before hotel Olivia, same side of the street on Calle Obregon right next to the hot dog stand, if your not looking for it you will miss it.

Have fun in Nogi

LOBO

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SpreadInk

09-22-08, 18:50

Went down at the last minute saturday night and had a great time. Found out some new information as well. Lobo was right in that the drug cartels are showing their presence in and around the city. Police and military are stepping up surveillance, police are also targets, as the cartels have very little fear. I found that the locals are keeping an eye out for the tourists that make up a large portion of their income, and I did not feel threatened, I even had one officer (In a vest) walk with me down the street and across the tracks. So, take that for what it's worth. Now on to the good stuff. Went to my usual hangout Lust, they have a mostly new wait staff, since the owner took off with their money. There is a big guy who looks like Abe, named Javier who speaks good english and really goes out of his way to make sure that you are taken care of. I saw April and met a new friend named Ixtel (Ishtell). I asked for a beer dance and she got this big grin on her face. As you can see from the photos she was willing to oblige. As I have said in the past, Lust is a little hole in the wall, but the mileage you get far outweighs the lavishness of other clubs. I read about other guys paying for privados and getting to suck on tits and a little finger action. Why pay, when the girls at Lust will do that anyway while sitting with you. Save some bucks. Honestly, two girls on each lap, 4 tits in your face, one of those tits is in your mouth.. All night. Anyways, beer show now has a new twist, after they pour beer on each other they then pour a bucket of ice water on each other. I told the guys at the club to get ready for something you will not see at other clubs. Lust doubles the guys at the entrances and shuts the doors tight while the girls do their thing. Craziest shit to see, all the guys jaws dropped. After a while I went to lord Blacks to see my buddy Indio and the old staff from Lust (They ALL migrated to Lord Blacks when they were ripped off by the owner of Lust), they all rushed up to greet me even Maria jumped off stage to hug and give me a kiss, and showed me to a table. Now, I like Lord Blacks, they are OK, girls are hot even this 40 yr old mother of 3 (seriously tight body) named Maya. My biggest complaint is the seating. They have small single chairs with high armrests. I am 6'1" 240lbs, I barely fit let alone have a girl sit on my lap as opposed to my usual two girls. They need to have couches or something. Had a good time catching up with everyone, I bought them all drinks. Lord Blacks was fairly busy, contrary to Lobos report, they offered me $10 privados and gave me 2 for one drinks. Tipping the staff really goes a long way in the long run, if you don't frequent these places, save your money. I went back to Boleiros, and had a couple of beers and talked with some of the staff that new me. Bolieros is nice, but too many rules for me to try and break. I went back to Lust, got 2 girls and sat back on the couch and went back to sucking on tits and playing with pussies for the rest of the night. I went back to my room at Panco Villas with 2 girls, I can't remember their names I was pretty loaded by then, cost $75 each. Left the next morning back to the US. Just a reminder, come June of 2009, you will have to show a passport to get back in or expect a big hassle showing proof of citizenship. I took some photos so you can see what I am talking about.

Happy mongering.

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Lobo 003

09-23-08, 06:55

$10 privados at Lord Back F**ing Barney I'm going to rip his ass next time I go down there, I've known him for over 6 years and tip him well. Just goes to show you even an experieced monger can be taken advantage of, sigh...shame on me I must of been titty and pussy drunk. It's a little hard to think when the girl feeds you a mouth full of her titties while your playing with her pussy. Ah f*ck it I had fun a cheap fuck and a big grin on my face.

Thanks for the info Spreadink.

LOBO

Tjmee

09-23-08, 08:47

I like that 3 rd pic the girl on top, nice.

Louie OK

09-23-08, 23:52

Obsession and Lord Black ?
Mmmm, makes more sense now. These places are also found in Tijuana.
Part of a chain maybe ? Reminds me of the USA's Deja Vu.
I wonder how many other cities in MX have these same men's clubs.

Every time I've visited these polished places, there seems to be so few customers, yet plenty of staff.
One almost should wonder how such businesses could continue to operate....

Lobo 003

09-24-08, 05:17

I'm in the mood for sharing so I decided to provide you guys with photos of some of my little friends.

Enjoy

SpreadInk

09-24-08, 16:01

That girl on top is April! April is a sexy 23 year old who is always obliging. Look back at my other reports and you will see more pictures of her. She loves getting her ass smacked, the harder the better and she has friends that like to play!

SexHobbyist

09-28-08, 20:58

Nogales is a mess. I got a report from a buddy who was there Friday night. The clubs were nearly deserted. The asking price for sex was up! These third-world countries just don't get it. When you want to stimulate (no pun intended) business, you lower the price not raise it. No wonder they're a second-rate economy.

Anyway....

Apparently the drug wars aren't over. While visiting two clubs, the Mexican army came in and began questioning the dancers and customers. They asked for ID...including the Americans. The action was shut down for about a half hour in each club while this was going on.

My buddy said that there is no street action for sex now. He saw small groups (gangs?) of locals with weapons cruising the streets.

So...

Things are still unsettled in Nogales. The philosophy of the clubs seems to be, "Hey, let's get the gringos down here to help out with the economy by RAISING the prices!"

Idiots. No more bailout for you guys!
Sexhobbyist

Guadalajara Don

09-29-08, 03:32

Bailout?? What is that? Did you bail out of the third grade? The Federalies (not the Mexican Army) have been visiting the clubs for many years. Why? Looking for drug dealers and users. I have no problem with that.

The prices asked vary - they recognize a sap when they see one and ask for more $$$, reasonable prices are asked of normal people.

As for the drug wars, who told you that they were over? I have a little clue for you: they are just beginning. President Calderon has declared war on the cartels, while the cartels have declared war on each other. This is far from over. Now the cartels have taken to trying to intimidate the poor people. In the past they tried to buy them. This may blow up in their faces.

I doubt seriously that your friend saw people openly carrying weapons on the streets. They'd last about 5 minutes before they were massacured.

I recommend that you visit Arkansas for your next store bought pussy. And please, post a report. No more mis-information is needed from you regarding Mexico.

Lobo 003

09-29-08, 08:50

The drug violence crimes have been happening all my life, I spent a large part of my life in Guadalajara Mexico reading and hearing about beheadings, shootings kidnappings and in the Mexican papers they are very explicit with their photos. Three houses from my mothers house 20 or so years ago there was a shooting over drugs which turned into revenge killings for over 2 years and ended up costing the lives of 3 sons for one familiy. So what's happening in Nogales Sonora is nothing new I just advise caution when traveling there, besides by being freightened on your travels into Nogi or Mexico for that matter you have falling into the drug cartels only and best weapon that is the weapon of FEAR. Read your own newspapers and tell me if there is no crime in your town. I for one think that Tucson is far more dangerous than Nogi.

I'm not advocating that you go or stay home I personally can not guarantee your safety that is your responsibility. As for my self I will continue to go to Nogi day or night alone or with friends besides I have too many aquaintances to just abandon.

As for prices yes the girls do recognize a sap when they see one, just as Guadalajara Don pointed out and I mean no disrespect to most Americans but most of you guys are saps I know you have a language barrier and are hornier than shit when you go down there and don't have the experience that I and other regular mongers have with Nogi, but like I have said before get your price before you say yes.

Besides if you guys stay away I will get all the cheap putas. (He, He) especially this comming weekend. Its birthday weekend and I'm going to try to line up multiple girls, 6 at the same time is my goal depending on finances and girl prices, Wish me luck.

To quote a famous phrase "We have nothing to fear by fear it's self"

Stay safe and party hard.

I will keep you updated with Nogi.

I am American first then Mexican and damn proud to be multi cultural.

LOBO

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SpreadInk

09-29-08, 15:19

Sorry, couldn't help but add my 2 cents. We all know you are pretty much a big player in Tucson and I even enjoy reading your website each week, but I was pretty disappointed in your last review here. Mexico is a 3rd world country, no denying that. Yet to expect the prices to be equal to or less than what you currently pay or expect to pay borders on belligerence. What I rarely read about is negotiation. So many times I read about what someone paid, not what someone negotiated. There is also something that no one really wants to touch on, but I will go ahead and bring up. The ugly american curve. This is the ratio of dollars needed based upon your looks/age/weight to dollars needed to procure a fine/so so/ugly girl. What does your friend look like? The biggest complaint I heard from Abe was how most of the Americanos wanted a superfine girl, when most guys looked like John Belushi and they expected to get it cheap, because they were American. Now, I am American and truly enjoy my liberties of freedom, but I know that when I go to Nogales, it is not America. I do not expect it to be. What I do expect and count on are the people that I know down there to take care of me, since I take care of them. Like you I frequent the same scenes and try a few new ones, therefore, I have preferential treatment, because they know me. Does your friend frequent here, or just upon occasion? Why doesn't he post? Does he know about the ISG or read about us? Any of our posts would have been informative, especially with the current situation involving the cartels. I am afraid your friend went down with the wrong frame of mind and the wrong information. Lobos posts should have been read, that guy is tuned into what is going on down there! Whenever I go down, which is pretty infrequently as of late, everyone pretty much verify's what he posts. Lobo, keep up the great work! Guadalajara Don, thank you for your comments. Sexhobbyist, you are among the monger elite and play on a different, higher level than us, but post your own experiences, not someone elses claims.

Bretheren, play safe and negotiate! SI

SexHobbyist

09-30-08, 03:23

My, my. A little defensive I guess.
My friend has been going to Nogi regularly since the 1970s...since before most of you were born. I've known him for 15 years. We've been mongering together in Nogie for that long. He's more experienced than I am and knows his way around. He speaks the language.

He was saying that the $180 full service is now $200. The $160 full service is now $180. The negotiated $140 half&half is now $160. And so on. The $80 bj is now $100. He and I agree that this is not the time to raise prices. Using that economic philosophy, the Nogie clubs can expect far fewer gringos with Benjamins.

Guadalajara Don: History refresher course--the US taxpayers bailed out the Mexican economy to the tune of $50 billion in 1994. That's the bailout I was referring to. It's no wonder the clubs are missing an opportunity considering the economic model they have to emulate.

Lobo: Keep up the entertaining reports. Someday we'll meet up and I'll show you how my world works in Nogie.
SH

Lobo 003

09-30-08, 05:05

I'm sure glad I don't shop where you guys do , My best price in Nogi is $50 US full service one hour. Americans just don't understand the Mexican pshyque they operate on a different level than we do as well as most of their economy. I probably should write a post on the way they do business but for now I will give you a quick run down. Normal corporate type business brick and morter will treat all their customers equally, smaller mom and pop will treat regulars better than new customers, tiangis(swap meet, outdoor markets, hustlers, street people) you get a price depending on how you look the poorer you appear the cheaper the price and the better dressed get a higher price, there's also a way of conversing to improve your odds for a better price. Mexico has a much greater and lager underground economy than a formal one like here in the US and they don't practice standard economic models they practice survival economics. So that means for Americans a super high price and your probably going to get rip off, of course you will not be aware of it, so does that make it right or wrong, you decide.

LOBO

Guadalajara Don

09-30-08, 20:24

180 - 200 dollars? You guys are out for your minds. I am not sure what bailouts have to do with the price of pussy, but if you pay those prices you will be needing a bailout. Most families of 4 don't earn 200 dollars a week.

Amigo69

10-01-08, 00:01

Yes Guadalajara Don if you read the Nogi forum over the last 2 1/2 years you will see that there have been 3 or 4 mongers who have continuously been paying $180 to $200 for FS. I'm talking on a regular basis. Every week sometimes two times a week. And on each visit 3 or 4 times. Recently the one stated that he is now retiring from mongering due to financial reasons. Duh I wonder why. Thats why I now monger in Mexicali because I pay $70 for 40 minutes at a nice club with chicas in the 7 to 9 range. Also I can get TLN for $150 for 4 hours with a 6 or 7 rated chica. I have waited for 3 years for Nogi to go back to the Nogi I remember 3 years ago. Maybe the mongers who have ruined it because of paying un checked rates are now financially strapped.

I also agree with you that some mongers do not understand the Mexican culture. I also find that since I learned to speak Spanish it is much easier to not only pick the putas but also have fun with non pros also.

I hope the rates go back down and the mongers who pay way too much read the forums for Mexicali, Juarez, Tijuana, and Los Algodones. I hope they are smart enough to realize they are smucks for what they pay and the women are laughing on the inside at what dumb asses they are.

Take Care

Amigo69

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Guidos

10-02-08, 01:10

Hey,

Anyone know any girls that will give you a BBBJ and let you cum on their face down in Nogi?

Please let me know.

Lobo 003

10-03-08, 09:01

In refrerence to Amigo69s post:

"I hope they are smart enough to realize they are smucks for what they pay and the women are laughing on the inside at what dumb asses they are."

Sorry to say guys it's very true the hustlers, waiters, girls ,guys in ties and owners all laugh at you behind your backs. I have touched on this in some of my previous posts with hopes you would listen and save yourself some money and heartache. I know that most Americans that travel to Nogales are not familiar with ISG and therefore are unaware of the pitfalls that await them. All I can do is to make the readers of ISG and people I personally meet aware of the tactics used in Nogales and all of Mexico.

I seem to be trusted with alot of information by every local I meet in Nogi and seem to be treated as one of the guys ( a piasano) and in essence I am I guess it's because I visit with everyone and speak with them on a friend to friend level on a regular basis, see I'm not as horny as I appear, I can be a regular guy not just someone walking around with a pitched tent all the time. Speaking the language does help, not just spanish but the business language I am also able to extract much needed information for my benefit as well as yours. When I speak with people in Mexico thay have a tendency to give more information than I need, not just in the Monger world but elsewhere. I'm just trying to make your visit to Mexico more enjoyable and want you to enjoy my Mexican culture as well as the hot latinas, I'll keep the real hot ones all to myself, I can be selfish sometimes. I do hope that you do try to implement some of my suggestions, they just don't apply to mongering but to other aspects of mexican life as well, this in effect would create a better experience for all of us. If you pay to much you have no one but yourself to blame.

I'm starting to sound like a commercial for Mexico

Be safe and I'll speach with you soon...watchout for flying bullets they hurt if they catch you. HeHe, Oh that was bad. I better get my grandmother to washout my mouth with chile. Sabroso.

LOBO

Lobo 003

10-06-08, 05:35

I went down to Nogales Sonora early Saturday about 4pm, purposely looking for problems and to get a perspective from daylight to night time in hopes that I could be witness to any problems with gangs, drug wars etc. And report back what took place. Guess what nothing, and I strolled the area from 4pm to 4:30am and walked to the super market vh, that is a long ass walk. The worst that I could find was some drunk voimiting on the street in front of me, yuk! There is an increase of police presence on foot and bikes.

I chatted with my Pharmacist friend and a few other merchants and asked them about the economy and the drug cartels, In regards to the economy, mexican sales are about the same and are not, I repeat NOT DEPENDANT ON AMERICAN SALES there is however a significant decline to US purchasers, as for the drug cartels, they are a nuisance and don't really effect the everyday lives of Mexican citizens.

I did here some more horror stories about the drug war but I will keep them from you in hopes that I don't add any more to the hysteria any further, besides the drug war is just among themselves. I specifically asked has there been any problems where we mongers hang out, there have not been any incidents near or around the strip clubs.

In my opinion, I looked for trouble (would you believe an American looking for trouble in Mexico) and found none I felt safe and never once did I ever come across anything out of the ordinary. It appears that everything is normalizing, the locals are getting used to the idea of the drug wars and are moving forward with theirs lives. This is in no way an endorsment for safety in Mexico, but If you travel there always be careful.

Now the good stuff: 2 unbelievable girlfriend experiences and 2 BBBJs.

First, the usuall stuff the clubs are slow and the girls are bitching, the street action was slow due to the Fietas de Magdalena. A pilgramige from Nogales Sonora to Magdalena Sonora with a large festival in that town. Damn I missed it again.

I didn't make my quota of girls that I had planned but I did end up with two super girl friend experiences, oh no. I just might have 2 more girl friends.

The first one was a nice little petite spinner, cute as a button small titties and a hot couchie and very eager to get porked. She's the type of latina I like a tapatia from Guadalajara I just seem to get along extremely well with girls from there. I found her in a club and got her to come over for a little chat, no sooner than she sat down that she started to hug and kiss me, I mean this was extreme she had her tongue so far down my throat that I swore I was getting my tonsils removed and the hugs I thought I had a parasitic twin. I convienced her to come to my room which wasn't to hard, so she sneeked out of work and payed me a visit. In the room we laid on the bed for a good 15 minutes just hugging and kissing and deep frenching, I think she had chicken and rice and a coke for supper, let me get some more tongue and be sure, Ha Ha, finally we began to undress, slowly with alot of hugging and kissing, did I tell you there was alot of hugging and kissing. Finally she made it to my baby maker at full attention and she began a wonderful bare back blow job, damn she was good but my other girl was better. Our little wrestling match consisted of doggie, mish, girl on top a little daty and a whole lot of fuckie fuckie and tight I was having trouble getting junior in again I porked her untill she got sore and her orgasms, wow! They were fun to watch she trembled uncontrollably. We went at it for 1 1/2 hours cost me $100.

Girl two, she is someone that I allready know and has been out of town for a while back at home. Last night was her first day back and she was trying to find work in the clubs and I just happen to be at the right place at the right time. We chatted for a while catching up and she hinted for a little play time and of course I agreed my only problem was I was going to have my first rendezvous in 45 minutes I told her to give me a couple of minutes to think about the time, I made her think I just wanted to hang out for a while so we agreed on a time. She arrived at my hotel 5 minutes late and I am thankful for that because I had just finished up and said goodbuy to my first girl, damn FIVE #$at*&% minutes to recharge my batteries, needless to say I went slow when she was in the room. We hugged and kissed alot, like some long lost old lovers welcoming each other back into our arms, (I'm starting to hear violins). Undressed she grabs a hold of my pecker locks her lips around my shaft and begins to suck the shit out of it bare back, 30 to 40 minutes must have passed before she told me that she now wanted to be fucked. This girl loves to suck cock I told her how about a little longer and she ablidged and this time she changed her technique, she had me wiggling around and I was about ready to blast but I held back, this girl is my all time BJ queen. Now! She demanded to be fucked, and me being the good little male **** I complied, first she mounted me girl on top and guess what another tight fit, she had to wiggle it in, I love to see their faces when I split them wide open, I get a kick and a big grin on my face when I see that. After she impaled herself on my woodie she started to gush like someone opened up a water faucet, she got me and the sheets all wet. We did girl on top, doggie, mish, daty and alot of suckie and fuckie. We went at it for 1 1/2 hours more or less cost me $100.

The receptionist at the hotel wanted to join in but is not allowed, she made a date with me to go dancing, she's not really my type but I may take her up on it or I'm going to have to change hotels. I'll through her a bone. Wink wink.

Be safe.

Lobo

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Semianon

10-06-08, 16:53

Lobo's recent reports have me thinking about making a trip to Nogales and getting a tout to find me a pair of girls, and I was wondering if anyone could recommend a reasonable hotel for such an arrangement? I know some of the hotels frown on "guests", and others sometimes neglect to clean the rooms, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I've looked through some of the past postings, and most of the hotel recommendations are several years old now, so I am assuming they are not really valid anymore.

Lobo 003

10-06-08, 19:57

In regards to hotels most are girl friendly and the ones that are not are expensive. Pancho Villa and Hotel Calfornia are probably your best bets they are close to the action actually right behind Lust and Boleiros stay away from Colonial and the Regis(I think that's what it's called) $60 a night it can work but you will only get one girl in. Don't use the lower level rooms always get a second story floor if you want clean rooms. First floor rooms have high traffic if you kniow what I mean, pull the comforters and you will see a lot of stains, nasty. Pancho Villa is about $40 a night includes refundable key deposit, California $37 a night with refundable $5 key deposit or by the hour at California for $18 and you get a high traffic room. There are others San Andres it's cheaper next to 69, not very nice and 47 up around VIP not very safe for new guys it's about $30 a night.

I hope this is helpful.

LOBO

Semianon

10-09-08, 16:31

Ruffianomega

10-10-08, 04:56

Bob Az

10-15-08, 00:51

Hello all,

Was wondering if I can get some advise. Which is better Rocky Point or Nogales. I've never been to nogales but I have been to rocky point and it was AWESOME, I had a blast there. I am wanting to go where the ladies are at. Unfortunatly rocky point is about 4-6 hours from phoenix I believe nogales is closer. Looking for some advise from people that have experienced both places.Ap would be my suggestion if you're looking for a fun time at a low cost. I was at the Flamingo and the Patio this last Sat night and both had a good selection of girls. Money is tight down there right now and you can get anything you want for 400 pescos. If you stop at a Mexican ATM, 1000 pescos will end up costing you about $72. 00 American $

Lobo 003

10-15-08, 12:08

U.S. State Department's issues "travel alert" for Nogales. I don't want to scare anyone only to inform you . I myself will still travel there.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_3028.html

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/metro/262486.php

LOBO

Gatoraide

10-15-08, 20:02

Took a trip over on Mon Oct 6. Parked and walked over. I hit Obsessions, Boleiro, Lust and Lord Black. OB's and Bolerio had the most girls though OB's was about 40 - 60 cheaper. Bolerio started at 180 but went down pretty quick. I settled for one at Lord Black and paid a 100 bar fine to remove the girl for the rest of the night and negotiated the rest with the girl. It was about 1100 at the time. They seemed not to really want to work this way but businees was very slow.

Overall the girls at OB's and Bolerio's were a step above the other but the girls at LB and Lust were willing to negotiate more. I was able to negotiate 120 in all the clubs.

Also, I was alone and walked everywhere with no signs of trouble.

Note: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_3028.html

Netman05

10-20-08, 21:11

I will be in Tucson for a week of business. I have never been to Nogales before and wanted a few questions answered by seasoned mongers. I have been to Tijuana over 50 times the last 8 years but never Nogales.

1) After you park at the border (I assuming lots of parking) and you walk over the border is it like Tijuana and there are cabs right there. I don't want to walk for safety. I do this in Tijuana all of the time.

2) What clubs to go to. Can you walk safely among them? In Tijuana I pretty much walk between Adelitas, Chicago, Tropical, HK, and the alley.

3) What are the prices for 30m in the room for FS with condom. I saw some reports of $160 for 30m. WOW. In Adelitas you can get any chica for $60 and most will take $50. $60 is doable even on a Saturday night with a hot chica. I would pay $160 but not sure why the price difference as AB has the hottest chicas I have seen. Do all girls int eh clubs also go to the room? Or some only dance.

4) Where can you get Cialis. In Tijuana I walk to the right instead of straight. There are pharmacies right there, take the cialis in the place, and then cab to AB. Is something similar available in Nogales?

5) Outside of the clubs can you catch a cab. Are all cabs safe? In Tijuana I have taken the yellow cabs and Taxi Libre with no problems.

I think I know the rest about Mexico. NO drugs, no guns, no knifes, don't get drunk, cash only, keep $40 or so for safety in shoes and/or shirt pocket (buttoned down).

I am planning on hitting the place 3 times at night after 7:00 pm until 12:00 or so.

Thanks for any info from the veteran Nogale Mongers.

Lobo 003

10-21-08, 08:29

I've never seen it so quiet in Nogales on a Saturday, Calle Obregon is usually busy with lots of action, very few people making the social rounds ,there was a musical group in town, so I'm sure that had some impact, however there was plenty of cruising up and down the street in their cars. Plenty of police presence with random car inspection.

Street action was almost non existant, 3 Americans did get lucky with some street girls I think they found them in a back alley near Obsessions, not ones that I would recommend and only a handfull of Americans were taking in the sites. Most of the American regulars were in attendance including myself some I know real well, others by sight only.

The clubs were slow, dance as well as TDs, Obsessions was very busy and their remodeling is comming along nicely, 3 stages one main and 2 smaller, they seem to be trying to emulate Lust with there special girl dances, I witnessed a girl on girl finger and lickathon. They have also built 2 very nice VIP rooms one with it's own pole, nice seating, good A/C and privacy. October 31 Holloween night for those that are interested from 8-10 pm they will have an open bar and other specials that evening.

The other TDs across the tracks looked like a ghost town. I walked into Lust late in the evening and I was the only customer for about 1 hour plus needless to say everyone was hounding me for money. They were giving me prices of $130 for full service trying to entice me to get a girl, I didn't bite, what I might of paid after negotiating with them, who knows? She was pretty. Besides I was having fun playing with their titties and pussy and they were playing with my package.

Lord Black extremely dead, poor quality girls. One good thing happen there I met a very nice female customer, we hit it off real well and we will be getting together real soon. Does that mean no more mongering for me, hmmmm, hmmmm. Nah!!! Maybe? I don't know, time will tell.

Finally walked into studio 69 after a long absence due to their high prices and smug attitude. Guess what with a slow economy and lack of customers their prices and attitude are still the same this was also another club where they were hovering around me like vultures waiting to devour me, (not going to happen!!!) Management continually presured me to do something with a girl. There were only 4 customers and all girls were bored to death and half asleep, one nice thing about walking into studio 69 was that all except 2 girls present, I've had the good fortune of pleasuring them, there were a lot of memories floating around in there, mind you I did not meet them in studio 69.

I did not make it to Boleiro so no update. I can take a guess, buy no drink for chica in 3 songs she's out of there, no dance she's out of there. I don't know about you guys but for myself I'm not to fond of Boleiro, to many rules.

All in all Nogi was very quiet no violence, no gangs zilch, nada, nothing I left at 4:30 am walking by my little 'ole self, The worst I found were beggers looking for some pocket change, needless to say I ran out of pocket change real quick.

As far as girls go I ended up with nothing this week it was more of a recon mission, not looking for anything and at the same time looking for everything. I did have the opportunity for 3 girls, one was to tired, the other one was leaving town the next day and needed to get some sleep and the 3rd one well I didn't return to Lust to order take out. Oh well next time. I spent to much time BS ing with friends.

Note: If you go down to Nogi expect to be hounded, hovered around and presured to do something, more so now than before and they will even sit near you waiting for your decision, how rude, especially if the club is slow.

LOBO

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Ruffianomega

10-22-08, 04:58

Ohhh man it was awesome, went with 2 friends (they were first time vistors also) we got in Saturday night around 6pm, checked into Hotel Olivia only about $48 (with a key deposit) and make sure to remind them about the deposit when you check out (thanks to this site) I had to remind the guy. Once we dropped our bags off and freshend up we took off, and LOBO was right people hound you for money we had some guy named ceasar catch us at the border right when we walked accross and he stuck with us for awhile. He showed us a few places but once we knew where to go he was no longer needed he was more like a thorn to our side. We went to OBSESSIONS first. I LOVE THAT PLACE, once we sat down the employees immediatly brought each of us a girl, and within the 1st 10min the girls were feeling on our junk ("F" an AMerican Strip Club girls don't service the customers like that) while I was feeling on them, even though the management keeped pushing us to choose a girl it was still very nice. A bucket of 5 beers were about $12, they had some super hot ladies working that night 8-10's. 1 girl looked like she could be in the pussy cat dolls group. I got a lap dance from her. It was GREAT, except when asking her for FS she said $200- that was way too much I regretfully declined. As me and my friends relaxed near the pool table there was this beautiful girl laying down near the windows stomach down behind up I started feeling on her emaculate booty as she was shaking it to the music. Needless to say I got another lap dance from Mrs booty shaker. After that we went to Club 69(nice classy place), recieved the same customer award winning service there. Within the 1st 2min we had girls sitting on our laps. One girl had an amazing set of natural hooters. She was energetic and fun, got a lapdance from her that was amazing got a HJ and she played with my banana between her melons (as she put it) then we visited other spots. LUST(slow), boleros (not bad. Pretty girls kind of slow, we saw one stripper take off her shirt and lite it on fire. That was odd). Then we went to La Conga (the hooker house) that sucked. There was only 1 lady there she was a 2, we waited about 30min then another girl arrived she was maybe a 5. Charging $75. My friend handled his business then we left, we wanted to go back to OBSESSIONS but it was closed by the time we got back around 3am. So we went back to our hotel. We hanging outside we had a taxicab driver bring a girl back. She was ok she was about a 7. I handled my business (BBBJ, mission, doggy) $50 a pretty good deal. The next day Sunday we checked out at 1pm hoping to go to OBSESSIONS 1 last time before we left but it was closed. But next door to our hotel was a massage/spa. We went there but only one girl working pretty hot about an 8- but she couldn't do anything because she was taking care of her kid. So went to Boleros. And that place was fun a few hotties about 7-9, then we went to a massage parlor. Pretty nice. $40 for 40 min massage and you discuss pricing with the girls for more. My friend got "more (FS)" for $60 extra. 3 of the 4 girls they showed were 10's. So in summary NOgales. Awesome. Ohh and beware of some of the girls you talk to because there were 2 incidents were we tried to talk to some hotties but I guess there pimps or boyfriends got upset and told us to beat it. But you will know the girls not to talk to. When they look like they are for sell but you say something and the girls seem nervous or not talkative. Well Happy brick laying my friend. And have fun.- I can't wait to go back..- Theres no Place like Mexico.

There's no place like Mexico.

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Bubbanaz

10-22-08, 05:04

I am looking foward to your report. You are heading into the most expensive border town in Mexican history. I don't play here way out of my budget I go either by car or fly to Tijuana. No taxi's needed here most things right on the border you can see a few of the clubs from the street before crossing. But please keep the standards up do not pay less than $140 for a chair and 3 songs with a girl no matter how she looks. Do not mention Tijuana here or people might see how bad they made this place. Reasonable prices are not allowed here. Just think $60 for a club girl $30 on the street, I will be in Tijuana this weekend. People (Sheeple here are still paying way too much). But enjoy paying 3 times what you would in Tijuana it is considered cheap here. If you want to do it in a bed expect to pay $200 plus.

Lobo 003

10-22-08, 10:53

Netman05 I will be as direct as possible to your questions:

1. UETA parking is probably your best bet $4. 00 parking especially if your comming at night. It will be on your right as you enter Nogales and make the 25 mph turn. Once you enter Mexico as you cross the border right smack in front of you will be the taxis. I don't recommend taking taxis because everything is nearby.

2. Club recommendations: Obsessions, Boleiro, Lust, Lord Black, Studio 69 and last VIP, Boleiro thru VIP are all on the same street. I recommend to visit the first 5, after 3am you can visit VIP. Walking distance to Obsessions is about 1/2 block from the taxis as you enter Mexico the other clubs are opposite Obsessions across the train tracks, about a 2 block walking distance. Is it safe to walk among them absolutely. Do not take a taxi to Obsessions, if you take a taxi to the other clubs the taxi needs to take a round about way to get to them because of the new construction and stupid road design, it's much quicker on foot. A taxi will cost you $5. 00.

3. Nogales does not work on a 30 minute time frame they go by 45 minutes to 1 hour. Club prices vary most will start you high in the 180 to 200 range with a little negotiating you can get a girl for $150, but with the economic climate a lower price is more realistic. I was offered $130 for a girl 1 hour in Lust thats before negotiating, the rumor has it thay are charging $100 for a girl I have yet to prove it. Read some of the other post and see what others are paying. Expected price range in a club is $100-$200 for 1 hour. I usually negotiate directly with the girl for fun after her shift, I have that luxury and you probably don't have time for that. Street hustler can get you a girl for one hour $60-$100 in a hotel. Not all girls do the horizontal mambo, in all my time mongering in Nogi I've met 2 that would not play for any ammount of money. Chances are good that the one you pick will do the deed. You might negotiate a 30 minute time frame in the massage parlors, first ask for the full time frame of 45 minutes then negotiate down to 30 minutes and a lower price.

4. As you enter Mexico the same street the taxis are stationed will be a pharmacy about 30 yards away I think they close at 11pm and nearby is a pharmacy that stays open all night in any event there are about 3 decent pharmacies within a 1 block radius.

5. Cabs are available at all clubs and they are safe I have never had a problem.

Read some other post on Nogales:

http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=717151#post717151

LOBO

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Member #1268

10-23-08, 14:00

Recently had a good experience at Lust about 3 in the afternoon on a week day. I suspect she was early 30s and she is one of the dancers. She was one horny latino. $10 tequilas for her / $ 4 beers for me. Negotiated $50 / hr with the manager, but I had to threaten to walk out before he came off the $100. The upstairs facilities suck, but she is a great piece of ass. Give her three shots of tequila and she will do anything. I could not believe she was into it so much. So two beers for me, three tequilas for her + the $50, in and out for 88 bucks. Not bad!

Lobo 003

10-24-08, 11:03

Here's an update on the gloomy side of Nogales 7 dead and 5 injured. Read it and make your plans accordingly. I hope this means that the girls will be cheaper.

http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=9231772

LOBO

Lobo 003

10-29-08, 02:59

This past Saturday was fairly quiet even after the big shootout on thursday, the people and the town were pretty normal, they are a little upset, actually they are extremely f**king upset with the drug cartels and sick and tired with their presence. They are happy and pleased that the cops are being very vigilant and doing their jobs.

Activity is a little slow but some girls are starting to peak their heads out and look for work. I found street walkers for $60, $50 and $40 US, see desperation is bringing prices down.

The clubs were slower than usual I walked into Obsessions first and I was the only customer for 2 hours I found a couple of nice girls to talk too and had a great time. I returned later, late in the evening and it picked up, I asked one of the girls how much for full service, $180 was her price. I knew this was going to happen the slower the clubs become the more they will charge I told her that it was f**king to much and your to damn expensive. She said I'm worth it, not for $180 your not.

Boleiro was next fairly quiet for a saturday about 7-10 customers and 5 of them were americans. I chatted with a few girls, not long mind you because of their numerous rules, anyhow I got a dance from one of the girls, prices for dances are down again, she gave me a very good dance and kept asking me if I wanted to do more so I asked how much, she quoted $180, what the f*ck, are those women crazy, needless to say I told her it was way to much and she responded you have alot of money and are rich and I told her what does that have to do with anything I'm not going to be price gauged and pay way to much for her service no matter how much money I have. Her counter was $170 I told her to forget it.

Lord Black dead as a door knob poor quality women.

69 nice selection of women, I walked in late at night usually when it get really busy, I was the only customer in there for a whole hour and half. One good thing about it was I was the center of attention, however same bullshit with the girls $200 asking price, f**cking rediculous most of them were half asleep again.

Lust I do have to say that they did have some really nice new girls and I know were they are getting them from I'll touch back on that subject later, anyhow there were 4 really super nice girls 3 of them were dressed in street cloths and at first I thought they were customers and later found out when they brought one over, that she was actually a working girl, not a dancer but she did everything else meaning private dances and full service and they were all 18-19 years old with tight bodies. I tried to negotiate for 3 girls, first I was quoted $150 US per girl, with some negotiating I got it down to $130, I was shooting for $50 to $100 per girl based on one of the reports posted here. They told me that was not enough and I told them that they were way to expensive especially with the economic climate, so I walked and they got nothing. These clubs really pissed me off this night, inlight of what happen between me and them they might reconsider next time. Next time I'm going to make them really beg me to spend my money, I'm going to be a f**cking hard ass, they allready do that now and it's really irritating, but just for kicks I'm going to make them squirm.

Back to what I touched on earlier about where lust is getting their girls after talking with the girls and BSing with them they let there guard down and finally started to laugh and smile and thats when I got my information. Management is finding their new girls from casas de citas,( bordellos, escorts, cat houses just to give you an idea as to what I'm talking about) these places are not near our favorite location along the border and usually the girls work in the inner city which means we never see them, in the past I have come across madams who provide girls and even visited a location by means of a street hustler, but was never able to connect the two together.

I did some research and found 2 casas de citas, I got the addresse, but I do not know were they are located in Nogi. I will investigate this further and keep you posted.

Finally, just as I thought, that with the slow down in the economies the clubs were going to be hard asses with their prices, and I know how the minds of Mexicans think and it still perplexes me. Maybe if it gets bad enough for them they just might drop their prices, I for one will not hold my breath.

This past weekend I think I was a walking ATM everybody was trying to borrow money from me, only close friends were able to squeeze me for some dinero.

Be safe.

LOBO

SpreadInk

10-29-08, 14:01

Maybe you might know. I read and experience a lot about the clubs and workers in Nogales on the Mexican side, but are there any places or workers on the American side or is that something that Tucson is better for? Great reports by the way amigo!

S I

Lobo 003

10-30-08, 01:17

Spreadink,

As far as I know and this comes from friends that live in Nogi, not to much happens in Nogales Arizona. I've asked many people that have lived in Nogi and frequented both sides of the fence and they tell me that because of the lower drinking age and unenforced activities in mexico everybody goes there. It's to hard for Nogi AZ based busineses to compete with the activities south of the border.

Everytime I go to Nogi and leave I meet people comming and going to the night clubs in Mexico. I have asked some of the nice hot girls on the US side that are residence of Nogales AZ why they go into Nogales Mexico, they tell me that's were all the action is they say there is nothing happening on the AZ side.

I personally have not investigated this scenario, I was going to attempt it once but friends that live there talked me out of it. It's just to easy to go to Mexico especially when you're a few steps away from nirvana.

One other tid bit from a friend in Tucson he tells me that there is an Asian massage parlor on the AZ side that provide FS, he wasn't to happy with the girls or the mamason. He did get his willy wet.

Finally a friend told me that some of the Nogales AZ bars have easy women they may not be A+ women, but they are a warm body.

No stip clubs on the US side of Nogi.

LOBO

Guidos

10-31-08, 03:05

Hello Lobo,

I am planning on doing a stay over in Nogi for a night and I was wondering what there is to do doing the day? Are any of the clubs open during the day? Also, are there any street walkers during the day? Finally, where are the other dance clubs and such? I hear they are normally pretty good and you can find a lot of regulars that will get down, rather than just prostitutes.

Please let me know.

Thanks man!

Lobo 003

11-01-08, 03:54

Guidos,

What is this, ask LOBO week, geez guys I feel so important now I think my head has grown 2 sizes, Ha, Ha, Ha, just joking...

First of all what day of the week are you staying the night ? I will assume you're doing friday/saturday or saturday/sunday that being said you have some options for the weekend.
Early morning hours after the clubs close VIP fiesta palace is open untill 6am, strip club on the bottom and regular bar above you can get anything you want in the strip club just as the other clubs. The upstairs bar is a local watering hole for the locals for after hours partying comprised of regular customers as well as working girls. You will see many dancers that hangout in club VIP from other strip clubs. Many of the local normal non working girls are very nice and beautiful I've pulled a few girls from there, sometimes they will charge you others won't, I guess it depends on whether they need to make rent or some other expense.

If you're still looking for action after 6am you're pretty much out of luck everybody is tired and wants to go home. Other options are a hustlers or girls phone number or casas de citas that I am currently working on. Update on this from a taxista friend of mine he knows of a location and tells me, you walk in pick a girl out and go to a room in the back and do your thing for $60. This sound a little like the Conga style of action.

After 6am checkout the local stores, you'll be surprised as to what you will find in restaurant, bakeries small shops, many times younger girls will hangout at ice cream stores,(paletas) most of the time they are to young, try your game on them and you just might score remember these girls need a little more time to warm up to you but once you get them hooked they are yours, also try the clothing stores.

Most clubs start to open their businesses about noon Obsessions is supposed to open at 12 noon, but by 2-3pm everything should be open. Early Club hours have a tendancy to vary on the mood and feel of owners just like their prices. Some clubs will be open on sunday not all ,usually Boleiro, Lust and Lord Black are open on sunday. The rest of the week all are open untill 3am.

Daylight street walkers, they are extremely hard to find if at all ,reason being is that Nogales Sonora is a small town and it's kind of taboo for them to work daylight hours, and to be a puta, most don't get up untill about 3pm anyhow, and also they do not want to be seen by their friends and families so they hide during the day and wait for the cover of darkness to conceal their identities and blend in with the rest of the street crowd. It sound as if I'm talking about vampires or super hereos, but that's how it works. Everytime I make a date with a girl I have to wait untill 3pm to call her this is about 90% of the time and most girls don't want to use hotels near the clubs during the daylight so that no one will recognize them. I've had girls hidding fron their uncles, brother, sisters, fathers, mothers and even boyfriends and this was at night.

The other night life, most dance clubs are located on Calle Obregon it's one block west of the street that Obsessions is on, go south and for the next 3-4 blocks you will pass many as you walk. Some of the more populars clubs are Dubay, Club Street, Codigo, Columpios and others that I can't remember the names of.

As far as getting together with some regular girls that depends on your game but if you look like an American,( gringo, white boy )you'll have a slight advantage, because many girls are looking for that perverbial rich American to sweep them off their feet and bring them to America even the local men tell me this and they are jealous. Just as an example one day I was in club Dubay and 3 girls were hitting on me all because I look like an American, how easier than that do you want it. I had another girl tell me because I hadn't seen her in a while that she thought she had lost her Gringo. Use your American citizenship as leverage to get Mexican pussy, yeah baby that's the life.

Be safe.

LOBO

Tjmee

11-01-08, 08:43

Lobo 003

11-01-08, 19:26

[QUOTE=Lobo 003]Activity is a little slow but some girls are starting to peak their heads out and look for work. I found street walkers for $60, $50 and $40 US, see desperation is bringing prices down.

40-60 for a streetgirl?

Ripoff to the max.

That's funny because I did every girl that quoted me those prices and I was real happy with my hour of service with each one. Maybe you're refering to the price, I guess that is to much for your budget, I'll try to find a $20 girl for you.

Tjmee

11-02-08, 06:19

I have done bar girls for 40.

Then again this is the Ciudad juarez posts.

Lobo 003

11-03-08, 10:58

I did Nogi thursday and saturday and had my usuall great time and played around with a few girls. Saturday I was stood up by a date early in the evening but I managed to fill in her spot with another girl and a second morsel late in the evening. My first girl gave me a 2 hour run and the second gave me a 1 hour time, damn clock whatcher, needless to say I slept real well that evening with boobies and kitties dancing in my head.

Anyhow here's an article that I found concerning Nogales and Mexicos drug problem, things could become a little more dangerous. I personally find myself starting to become concerned with the drug war based on what I have been hearing and reading, and feel that things will only get worse before they get better, At this moment I still believe it's still safe to monger in Nogi.

Here's the article...

The War Next Door
As drug cartels battle the government, Mexico descends into chaos

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/24012731/the_war_next_door

Be safe...

LOBO

Guidos

11-04-08, 00:28

Guidos,

What is this, ask LOBO week, geez guys I feel so important now I think my head has grown 2 sizes, Ha, Ha, Ha, just joking.

First of all what day of the week are you staying the night ? I will assume you're doing friday/saturday or saturday/sunday that being said you have some options for the weekend.

Early morning hours after the clubs close VIP fiesta palace is open untill 6am, strip club on the bottom and regular bar above you can get anything you want in the strip club just as the other clubs. The upstairs bar is a local watering hole for the locals for after hours partying comprised of regular customers as well as working girls. You will see many dancers that hangout in club VIP from other strip clubs. Many of the local normal non working girls are very nice and beautiful I've pulled a few girls from there, sometimes they will charge you others won't, I guess it depends on whether they need to make rent or some other expense.

If you're still looking for action after 6am you're pretty much out of luck everybody is tired and wants to go home. Other options are a hustlers or girls phone number or casas de citas that I am currently working on. Update on this from a taxista friend of mine he knows of a location and tells me, you walk in pick a girl out and go to a room in the back and do your thing for $60. This sound a little like the Conga style of action.

After 6am checkout the local stores, you'll be surprised as to what you will find in restaurant, bakeries small shops, many times younger girls will hangout at ice cream stores,(paletas) most of the time they are to young, try your game on them and you just might score remember these girls need a little more time to warm up to you but once you get them hooked they are yours, also try the clothing stores.

Most clubs start to open their businesses about noon Obsessions is supposed to open at 12 noon, but by 2-3pm everything should be open. Early Club hours have a tendancy to vary on the mood and feel of owners just like their prices. Some clubs will be open on sunday not all ,usually Boleiro, Lust and Lord Black are open on sunday. The rest of the week all are open untill 3am.

Daylight street walkers, they are extremely hard to find if at all ,reason being is that Nogales Sonora is a small town and it's kind of taboo for them to work daylight hours, and to be a puta, most don't get up untill about 3pm anyhow, and also they do not want to be seen by their friends and families so they hide during the day and wait for the cover of darkness to conceal their identities and blend in with the rest of the street crowd. It sound as if I'm talking about vampires or super hereos, but that's how it works. Everytime I make a date with a girl I have to wait untill 3pm to call her this is about 90% of the time and most girls don't want to use hotels near the clubs during the daylight so that no one will recognize them. I've had girls hidding fron their uncles, brother, sisters, fathers, mothers and even boyfriends and this was at night.

The other night life, most dance clubs are located on Calle Obregon it's one block west of the street that Obsessions is on, go south and for the next 3-4 blocks you will pass many as you walk. Some of the more populars clubs are Dubay, Club Street, Codigo, Columpios and others that I can't remember the names of.

As far as getting together with some regular girls that depends on your game but if you look like an American,( gringo, white boy )you'll have a slight advantage, because many girls are looking for that perverbial rich American to sweep them off their feet and bring them to America even the local men tell me this and they are jealous. Just as an example one day I was in club Dubay and 3 girls were hitting on me all because I look like an American, how easier than that do you want it. I had another girl tell me because I hadn't seen her in a while that she thought she had lost her Gringo. Use your American citizenship as leverage to get Mexican pussy, yeah baby that's the life.

Be safe.

LOBOThanks for the info Lobo! It is much appreciated. I am planning on staying on Sat/ Sun. As this coincides with my schedule. Do the hotels frown upon one bringing in lady friends? Also, what streets do the SW's normally work? I've been to Lust several times and I really don't feel like getting ripped off. Their girls are pretty hot, but I refuse to pay $200 for a chica when I can do that here in the states. Have you heard anything else about the casas de citas?

Thanks again for all of your info!

Guidos

Lobo 003

11-04-08, 07:52

Guidos,

Hotel Colonial next to VIP fiesta palace and Fray Markus near Obsessions, tall multi story hotel, frown on you bringing in girls. If you bring one girl with you when you rent your room there's not a problem, but if you try to sneak a girl or another one in later forget it they will not allow it.

Girl friendly Hotels:
San Andres, next to 69
Pancho Villa, they will charge you $100 pesos or approx $10 to take a girl inside. Behind Lust
Hotel California, behind Boliero
Hotel 47, nestled back behind VIP
Hotel Elias on Calle Obregon
Hotel Across Obsession I don't remenber the name, maybe San Carlos.
There are others near Obsessions and cheaper , the last time I used one it cost me $15 US, but there accomodations and the riff raff that live there are less than desireable.

$200 for a girl in Lust wow that's a new on me...I got one for $130 on saturday for an hour and fifteen minutes in their new private room. I know in my previous post I said I was going to be a hard ass with them but guys I was horny and she was hot. But, I'm working her for more frequent private time out of the club. Some times you just have to pay the piper. Shame on me !!! I'm still kicking myself in the ass for paying that inflated price and I still can't wipe that big grin off of my face.

Street walkers at this moment are walking and hanging out on the street that Obsessions is on , they live and work in the Hotels on the same street. You can see them starting about 8pm standing in the door ways to the hotels and the corners near the taco and hotdog stands. Their presence on this street is deternimed by police patrols. That might change based on what I heard on the news tonight about the Sonoran police chief killed in Nogales entering a hotel with an explosion 2 miles from the border.
http://www.kold.com/global/story.asp?s=9287581

Casas de sitas, was to busy on saturday to have Ariel take me there.

Be safe...

LOBO

LoveLOS

11-06-08, 06:32

Lobo 003

11-06-08, 07:39

LoveLos,

I'll have to revisit this hotel and see what happens, it's been awhile since my last visit and all the girls I make dates with want to go there. Nice place.
Thanks for the info.

LOBO

SpreadInk

11-06-08, 13:22

How in the hell does that number even translate? The Fray Marcos. Sounds cool, I'll have to try that hotel. Good breakfast there though. Hey, great to hear from you LL.

Lobo 003

11-19-08, 01:05

I've been a little lazy about posting on Nogi lately,
Sorry I didn't post the event on the International board I just thought it was more appropriate locally.

Last wednesdays first ever pole dance contest was a blast, wall to wall customers standing room only, over 30 girls present for your pleasure I've never seen Obsessions so busy. The contest was supposed to start at 10 pm but didn't start untill 11 pm good thing because I didn't leave Tucson untill 9:30 pm that evening so I got there just in time. There were five contestants with 4 or five judges, each dancer performed 3 songs in a row to give the judges plenty of time to critique their moves, the contestants performance was on par if not better than what I've seen state side, they really gave the US girls a run for their money. The event was well promoted in Nogales with a few Americans attending, photographers were brought in to record the event. The entire event was well excuted, planned and presented I was very satisfied and pleased with the show. More shows are planned for the future, I just wish they would move them closer toward the weekends.

Bravo Dago !!! to the owner of Obsessions...With the economies of both countries on a downturn, lack of customers and in the scenario of sink or swim he chose to swim.

First place went to Barbie a little petite spinner that works at Obsessions and a $5000 peso prize
Second place went to Wendy of Boleiro another petite spinner, in my humble opinion I believe Wendy should have won, she was like a monkey on the pole.

A quick update on Nogi slow as usuall there was a drug related killing about 50 yards from the border near a ice cream stand and the usuall no customers and high prices for the girls I'm going to stop banging my head against the wall over their price structure and just sigh in disbelief.

Be safe...

LOBO

Lobo 003

11-24-08, 09:12

It was a nice night to be in Nogi on saturday, calm weather with a slight chill, a fairly active evening along Avenida Obregon, locals were around and about socializing and no doom and gloom problems to report.

I think saturday was a Gringo convention in Nogi because there were many in attendance large groups and small groups, none were alone except your's truly. Obsessions busy as usaul, it has become the club of choice to be in ,as of lately ,for locals as well as Americans, courtious, non pushy staff and friendly girls. The girls are still complaining about the lack of money even some of the all time home run hitters who normally don't have any problems with sales have seen it become more diffucult to score a sale, wink ,wink. One of then jokingly said to me with a bashful smile and a twinkle in her eye that I should buy her for an entire year or was it a lifetime, I can't quite remember if it was a year or a lifetime, and that she would be my girlfriend, yeah! just what I need another girlfriend that would cost me a shit load of money. On the other hand, prepaid clean pussy for a year or longer, hmmm I think this deserves some consideration.

I don't know what happen on saturday but if I had the funds I could have had 9 girls, they were comming out from every nook and cranny, they were like roaches last night everyone was trying to tap me for money. I met 3 girls in a strip club lounging as customers that I know from other clubs who were checking the other clubs for work and they wanted to have me for dinner, 2 hot girls from one hustler, one 18 year old from another hustler, another new girl from even another hustler plus the 2 girls I had in my budget for the night. I think I am developing a problem down there I'm starting to become a Don,(ex. Don Juan, Don Pedro etc.) a man of position and money, the guy everybody goes to for money. Sigh!!!

One good thing about the bad economies is I'm the only one fucking my girls in the clubs and out of the clubs, you ask, how do you know? I have my ways of knowing.

Studio 69 was a suprise this time, most of the time that I go there I am the only customer, however this saturday was a fairly good turnout for customers. All the other clubs are starving for clients.

New dance club opened it's doors on friday called THE CUBE I did not venture inside but it looks as thought it will be a kick ass club as soon as the word spreads, 2 story, sort of a new York type loft with hugh 15' to 20' high windows, large dance and social area, located on Avenida Obregon right next to the US/Mexico border.

I hooked up with one of my regulars for the early part of the evening I was in a big boob mood and I needed my chichi fix, anyhow I normally pay her a $100 for our time together, I don't mind the price she's more than just a girl she's also a friend and our time ranges from 1 hour all the way to 3 hours with alot of hanky panky and horsing around and of course, I do take care of business. I did my usaul, had her on her back ,flipped her over for a rear shot and on and on in other words multiple positions, I ate her pussy twice this time before sex and during sex , she likes a good munching, and you ask, what's wrong with that ? most of you have on occassion done so, this time I used some new warming lube, I can't fuck this girl without lube, she's super tight and if I want to fuck her for more than a half hour, I need lube!!! My point is my tongue and lips are still a little numb from licking her pussy with the lube I guess it was well worth it she kept commenting as to how warm that feels, I don't know if I should be a little jealous of the lube or not, damn, I wonder if the lube out did me. This is one of the girls that I have been trying to ween off the $100 price tag, I am proud to say I succesfully accomplished my task I now have a new price of $60 US for full service. I told her about the bad economies of the US and in Mexico and how the peso has dropped in value against the dollar, so now I don't have to pay you $100 I can pay you less dollars and you still get the same pesos, she fell for my bullshit. I'm also trying to ween other girls, especially club girls, and street hustlers off this price.

The women in Nogi are all spoiled and think they can still receive there inflated price, I spoke with one my of my friends in Nogi and he told me that the girls from other parts of Mexico who are new to Nogi are willing to do more for less. One example, he has a new girl from Hermosillo and she made the comment that if she received $60 US she would do a bang up job and provide a fantastic service for however long the gentleman desired, of course that will only last untill she talks to other local girls and becomes jaded and guess what he offered her to me for $100 ,what the fuck? That is only one of many I have heard and experienced over the years.

Be safe...

LOBO

Lobo 003

11-28-08, 05:41

I received this private message from a member and felt that others would benefit from my response.

Quote:

Hello,

I know few of you, have a pretty good group of people who are active in Nogi. I am a member of Phoenix group. I do some contribution to the group. I am looking for some help with a visit to Nogi.

I will like to know in absence of language skills what is the best way to communicate with the gals.

I will also like to know that is the $100 a good price for one attempt? or the clubs are still charging a lot?

If we are a small group of people, will you advice us to get hotel room for the day and get girls over or go to the clubs.

Last time I was there, I got a room which was suggested by the hustler. But I got ripped of because the girls agreed on 2 attempts and she was out of the door after first. Any way to avoid it.

Any suggestions and directions will be appreciated.

Answer to his question:

Best way to communicate with the girls:
Take someone that speaks the language or use one of the bouncers that speaks english as an interpreter.
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER !!! say yes to anything the girl asks especially if you don't speak the language. Always say NO if you don't understand.
Obsessions, several that speak good english.
Boleiro ask for Erving
Lust ask for Javier
Lord Black they speak broken english
Studio 69 there are 2 or 3 bouncers that speak english

$100 in a club is still difficult to obtain at night, Lord Black and Lust have given me this quote. The strip clubs are still trying to get $130-$200 for a girl. Always ask first how much for service, actually ask how much for everthing their prices are fluctating as of lately, they seem to be trying to find a new price structure that pleases their pocket books and current economic climate. Street girls and independants are better for the $100 and lower price tag. Remember that the dollar has more buying power now, the exchange rate as of lately is 13 pesos pushing 14 to 1 US dollar and will probably go higher. Based on the current exchange rate we should only be paying $75 for our $100 girl.

Getting a room, I personally prefer a hotel room and thats the only way I do my girls, but if you do not have experience dealing with outside help I would not get a room. To many problems for the inexperienced in Mexico.

If you do get a room and a hustler brings you a girl do not pay her or the hustler up front this keeps them honest, (I personally never pay upfront, I got burned twice) if you do prepay more than likely they will rip you off and if she refuses, get another girl, you need be in control of your money ,you receive better service that way.

Recommended hustlers: only in PM

LOBO

Lobo 003

11-28-08, 06:29

Currency exchange rate for Mexican Pesos: As of Nov. 27 2008
13.22 pesos to 1 US dollar traslates into,

One girl for one FS hour pricing.

$50 US (500 pesos) before, should now cost $38 US (502.36 pesos)

$60 US (600 pesos) before, should now cost $46 US (608.12 pesos)

$100 US (1000 pesos) before, should now cost $76 US (1004.72 pesos)

$150 US (1500 pesos) before, should now cost $114 US (1507.08 pesos)

$180 US (1800 pesos) before, should now cost $137 US (1811.14 pesos)

$200 US (2000 pesos) before, should now cost $152 US (2009.44 pesos)

All businesses have adjusted their prices to the new rate except the TDs and street workers. They may not like this post down south, but they still have the same buying power as before, they also need to get with the program and adjust there prices accordingly.

LOBO

SpreadInk

11-28-08, 18:25

I will be going to Nogales. If anyone wants to meet up, PM me.

SI

Lobo 003

11-28-08, 23:36

Helloooo Monger world.

Recently I have been receiving many PMs on both sites with regards to Nogales Sonora, I am flattered that I am being considered your source and guide for information on Nogi, I hope my recommendations help. I didn't realize that I knew so much, maybe a website is in order. I humbly thank all of you that have requested of my knowledge, if I could only make some money with what I know, hmmm. Now I can walk around with my nose in the air and strut around like a roaster or peacock Ha,Ha, just joking. In any event if this keeps up I just might have to start a tour guide service to all our favorite places and more, wink wink...

LOBO

Lobo 003

11-30-08, 13:21

It's 5am and I just got back from Nogi and felt it necessary to get this post out as soon as possible, assaults are on the rise, while me and SpreadInk partied inside Obssessions an American was assaulted at knife point outside. Later as I exited Obssessions I believed I was being targeted, someone raced up behind me as I rounded the corner and slowed down to keep pace with me, I was fully aware of him as I left Obssessions and was waiting for him to make his move, but then I came across a friend and the guy behind me darted off quickly in the opposite direction. Was I paranoid ,I don't know, It was just out of character for this behavior.

Later when I left Mexico a very good friend from many years who escorted me to the border warned that assaults are on the rise especially along the tracks near Boleiro and repeatedly told me to be cautious and to always have someone occompany me. Many assaults have occured there recently and perpetrated by the street hustlers themselves, I send this warning out for all to be cautious.

For now don't go alone, go in pairs or more.

Be safe...

LOBO

Lobo 003

12-02-08, 09:39

oh boy!!! nogales is starting to come apart at the seams, violence is on the rise and they are targeting american tourist. one was attacked on saturday and many more in past weeks and they are all concentrated along the rail road tracks and will probably spread to other areas.

the tourist trade is all but dead, all the merchants who survive on american money are closing up shop others are going to wait out the holiday season and see if they can continue to stay viable. street workers are feeling it the worst their sole income is from american tips and handouts. one lady that sells tortillas can't even buy her ingredients anymore to make them, she can't get enough money from begging. everyone is overly stressed frustrated and panicked their livelyhood has all but disappeared and they are hungry and angry.

i warned a few weeks back in one of my post that this would happen and it will only get worst and it has nothing to do with the drug wars. a worrysome scenario is taking place in the minds of mexicans ,more so in the border towns, their anger and frustration is being directed at the united states, they are really developing a terrible hatred toward america because of their financial hardships they are being forced to endure and blaming america for their troubles,and in essence they are right, thanks to our banking system and the debacle in our economy that has effected all the world.
one thing they don't seem to realize is that americans are induring the same thing.
i got into a political discussion with one of the older workers at a club about our new president and the state of our economy, he asked me how our ecomomy was an i told him that it has been difficult for many people, businesses are closing workers are being layed off, my point is i'm telling everyone down there that americans are enduring hardships as well.

recommendations:
safety in nogi, i highly reccommend that you go in groups for the time being and i myself should heed my own warning. although in my case because of the frienships i have forged that are not based on money but on friendship, i found out saturday that when i enter mexico the word spreads quickly that i have arrived and they keep an eye out for my safety. i found it peculiar in weeks past as to this behavior but now i understand and when they see me comming they eagerly wait to chat and escort me from place to place. it touches my heart that they care that much about my frienship. i am humbled once again by the human spirit to do good. as i crossed into mexico a friend was waiting 2 hours for me at the border on the posibility that i would arrive. i was not expecting him to do that. what words do i use to express my gratitude, i don't have any, i am left speechless.

do not use credit cards in mexico especially in strip clubs and bars it's bad enough in more formal places like department stores. they will over charge and pad the bill, you have been warned!!!!

park only in ueta parking, it's open all night and they have an attendant late into the night.

ask how much before your purchase, never assume anything especially now. i've been had because i assumed, not for much but they got me.

update on clubs:
obssessions had a so, so crowd not as busy as usual, the word on the street is that it is declining, the girls are leaving and their customers as well, i personally can't confirm this yet. boleiro was very busy on saturday, i can't have fun in there anymore my girl that works there won't let anyone else play with me, sigh! lust i walked in and turned around right back out. lord black very slow, they did have some nice girls. i ran out of time to visit studio 69.

lately i've been testing their prices and how negotiable they are, lord black quoted me a price of $152 for a girl i asked what's the lowest and they said for you a special price $152, special my ass. lust told me without even asking, you can have a girl for $140 to $150, come on, get real. conclussion on prices they still have stick up their you know what.

the fun stuff:
a fellow monger invited me to go to nogi i told him it was kind of my off week but i went anyhow it's hard for me not to go to nogi. he goes by the name spreadink, we meet up in obssessions and invites me to some drinks and other party favors. we spend our time in one of the new vip lounges orders a round of drinks and brings in a couple of girls. we chat a bit about the site,life ,work and girls and i have to say he is extremely good company and easy to talk to, although his mental picture of myself was of some young cocky punk he found out that i'm an older cocky punk ha, ha. in any event we had a wonderful time chatting and playing with girls and all their womenly toys that we men find so appealing. i am greatful to have made his aquaintance, he is a wonderful host and his generosity was much appreciated.

i was so distracted with my host that i forgot my hustler had a girl waiting for me at a hotel i figured that myself and spreadink would spend about an hour chatting instead we did 4 hours, boy was that girl mad, i tipped my hustler and i guess i'll have to take care of the girl next time i go. gulp! i hope she doesn't bite my wee wee off. in any event i'm glad i met spreadink and was able to spend a night with him. after we ended our evening things just went down hill for spreadink, but i will let him tell you that story if he chooses to do so.

be safe...

lobo

Precocious One

12-02-08, 14:23

The tourist trade is all but dead, all the merchants who survive on American money are closing up shop others are going to wait out the holiday season and see if they can continue to stay viable. Street workers are feeling it the worst their sole income is from american tips and handouts. One lady that sells tortillas can't even buy her ingredients anymore to make them, she can't get enough money from begging. Everyone is overly stressed frustrated and panicked their livelyhood has all but disappeared and they are hungry and angry.

I warned a few weeks back in one of my post that this would happen and it will only get worst and it has nothing to do with the drug wars. A worrysome scenario is taking place in the minds of Mexicans ,more so in the border towns, their anger and frustration is being directed at the United States, they are really developing a terrible hatred toward America because of their financial hardships they are being forced to endure and blaming America for their troubles,and in essence they are right, thanks to our banking system and the debacle in our economy that has effected all the world.
One thing they don't seem to realize is that americans are induring the same thing.

LOBO

Good report Lobo.

I agree that the drug trade has very little to do with the recent criminal activity. But this is not going to be limited to just MX or any other impoverished areas in foreign countries. It is going to happen in the U.S. as well. I am anticipating a Civil Unrest episode(Rodney King) somewhere in the world in the next three months and one in the U.S. within the next nine months. Many economists believe that U-3 unemployment will hit nine percent by this time next year(it was as high as 12 percent in the Great Depression). We are currently blowing right through the early 1980's contraction levels.

I read a recent report that close to 50 percent of personal credit lines will be cut(four trillion to two trillion with one trillion currently outstanding) in the next six months. This behaviour by the banks in anticipation of high default levels will have a tremendous effect on foreign travel and PCE further reducing capital inflows to MX and other foreign economies contingent on U.S. consumerism.

Anyone travelling to any foreign country right now, more so than ever, should make a concerted effort to be cognizant of their immediate surrondings at all times. Many densely-populated urban areas of the world, including those within the U.S., are about to become very violent.

Tjmee

12-04-08, 06:49

Good report Lobo.

I agree that the drug trade has very little to do with the recent criminal activity. But this is not going to be limited to just MX or any other impoverished areas in foreign countries. It is going to happen in the U.S. as well. I am anticipating a Civil Unrest episode(Rodney King) somewhere in the world in the next three months and one in the U.S. within the next nine months. Many economists believe that U-3 unemployment will hit nine percent by this time next year(it was as high as 12 percent in the Great Depression). We are currently blowing right through the early 1980's contraction levels.

I read a recent report that close to 50 percent of personal credit lines will be cut(four trillion to two trillion with one trillion currently outstanding) in the next six months. This behaviour by the banks in anticipation of high default levels will have a tremendous effect on foreign travel and PCE further reducing capital inflows to MX and other foreign economies contingent on U.S. consumerism.

Anyone travelling to any foreign country right now, more so than ever, should make a concerted effort to be cognizant of their immediate surrondings at all times. Many densely-populated urban areas of the world, including those within the U.S., are about to become very violent.The unemployment rate during the great depression was actually 25 percent.

SexHobbyist

12-05-08, 14:41

Good report Lobo.

I agree that the drug trade has very little to do with the recent criminal activity. But this is not going to be limited to just MX or any other impoverished areas in foreign countries. It is going to happen in the U.S. as well. I am anticipating a Civil Unrest episode(Rodney King) somewhere in the world in the next three months and one in the U.S. within the next nine months. Many economists believe that U-3 unemployment will hit nine percent by this time next year(it was as high as 12 percent in the Great Depression). We are currently blowing right through the early 1980's contraction levels.

During the Great Depression unemployment was 25 percent, not 12 percent. The 12 percent figure was the unemployment rate during Jimmy Carter's depression.

This time our national productivity is down one half of one percent. During the Great Depression the national productivity was down an astounding 50 percent. There might not be so much "unrest" as you predicted. There will be unhappy people, but not Armageddon as you see it.

Yes, our discretionary spending will contract. This will hurt monger trips to Nogie. So...what will the entrepreneurs in Nogales do? They'll raise prices, of course! They're idiots.

The violence currently plaguing Nogales is not caused by civil unrest. It is a drug war for control of the border town. There are a few opportunistic thugs taking advantage of the situation and preying on tourist (and each other!). I'm staying away for the foreseeable future. Let them try to make a living without my money. Besides, I'm getting more than enough action in Tucson. Cheaper.

Precocious One

12-05-08, 15:32

During the Great Depression unemployment was 25 percent, not 12 percent. The 12 percent figure was the unemployment rate during Jimmy Carter's depression.

This time our national productivity is down one half of one percent. During the Great Depression the national productivity was down an astounding 50 percent. There might not be so much "unrest" as you predicted. There will be unhappy people, but not Armageddon as you see it.

Yes, our discretionary spending will contract. This will hurt monger trips to Nogie. So...what will the entrepreneurs in Nogales do? They'll raise prices, of course! They're idiots.

The violence currently plaguing Nogales is not caused by civil unrest. It is a drug war for control of the border town. There are a few opportunistic thugs taking advantage of the situation and preying on tourist (and each other!). I'm staying away for the foreseeable future. Let them try to make a living without my money. Besides, I'm getting more than enough action in Tucson. Cheaper.

Unemployment is now measured by U-3(people receiving unemployment benefits) as opposed to U-6(people not working/underemployed/receiving benefits)which was the number used throughout the Great Depression. During the GD, U-6 went to 25 percent and could possibly hit the same number within the next two years. Statistically, U-6 is generally twice the rate of U-3 which is the number that is now being reported by the USG and the media. There are some internet blogs that publish U-6 and Mish Shedlock just did a post on U-6 which currently registered at close to 13 percent. Many previously optimistic economists are now saying that U-3 will hit 10 percent by 2010 which theoretically could be viewed as a 20 percent umemployment rate using prior GD guidelines.

By the way, I do not believe that I am predicting Armageddon. I am anticipating the worse global economic contraction and business environment since the GD. And that will be very good for this hobby and anything else related to discretionary spending.

Mexico was probably one of the main benefactors of the faux economic boom the U.S. provided the world in the last five years and will be one of numerous countries that will suffer.

SpreadInk

12-07-08, 16:41

So for quite a while we have all read and enjoyed Lobo's reports. I kept telling myself, that I have to meet this guy sometime. So, I sent him a PM which he graciously responded to. He did tell me it would be an off week for him, but that he would meet me Saturday. I drove sown and stopped at Burger King, usually I park at the UETA, but have parked at Burger King with no incident. I went in got my ticket, took a leak and then broke from tradition and went back to get a burger (This will bite me in the ass later). Crossed over got my room and then went to make the rounds. Popped in to Lust, found out 2 of my favorite girls are pregnant. Went over to Lord Blacks. The Dj there is from Lust and knows me well, he was having computer problems, so he let me take a look and see what I can do. Funny doing tech work on a PC in spanish, anyways his PC was in bad shape. Got it running, shot some pool with the manager, some girls and Antonio who speaks good english and translates my broken spanglish. We went to Bolieros for a beer, since Abraham called me that evening. Went in with Antonio, met a ridiculously hot dancer named Eileen from Ensenada, speaks very good english. So we talked and fondled and then left to Candy Store to meet the irrepresable Lobo. I have never met him, but he told me he was going to be in a tan leather jacket. Sure enough we walk in and there is a guy in a tan leather jacket with a beautiful girl in his arm. OK, I have to admit I pictured a cocky young guy, but instead I met Lobo, probably a little older than me, very good spanish and that quiet confidence that I know women like. After introductions, my good friend Sergio comes up from behind me and picks me up in a bear hug. We move into the VIP room and start to party. Lobo has this young, hot and I mean Salma Hyek Hot mexicana with him. We all chat and party. Jesus she was hot Lobo! Oh and this is a direct quote from her " He fucks long time". So, I buy rounds and dances, next thing you know, it's 1 am. Abraham has been texting me, so I ask for the bill. I give them my credit card. 10 minutes later they said it doesn't work. Wrong! I have a lot of money on it. So after complaining, I gave them cash. What the idiots did was charge my card once for a certain amount and then charged it for 100 dollars more, which triggered my fraud detection. So, my card was frozen, until I can call my bank (BofA). Crossed back over and went to my car and it wasn't there. Oh shit, ticket was still in my back pocket. Car got towed. Shit! So, called, car was safe in tow yard. Guy was a dick on the phone, said I had to show proof of ownership. So, got room in Nogales, went to DMV next morning, then went to BofA, got cash, then went got my car back and drove home Monday. Oh and I left my credit card in the ATM, so I had to cancel and get a new one. A bummer ending to an otherwise great time. You have to meet him to understand, how smooth this guy is and the ladies do love him!

Take care be safe.

SI

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Lobo 003

12-12-08, 10:55

Ah, geewiz SpreadInk you made me blush...Thanks for the kind words.

Sorry guys I don't have any current updates I've been a little under the weather lately. I'm feeling better and I'm starting to get that itch again. I'm hoping to get down there before Christmas.

I like it when a girl plops herself down on my lap and serves up her boobies for me to dine on, Ahhh thats the life something to suckle on. It's actually been happening to me as of lately especially in one club, they will sit down pull out one breast, so I start to play, then they pull out the other and they tell me to suck on their nipples, then a bunch of nipple play insues, now how in the world can I say no. I got one girl so fired up that she wanted to have intimate relations with me wink, wink and she wasn't going to charge me anything, I only had to pay the house fee. Maybe I should suck on more titties and get more price breaks. That's probably the trick to the Mexican prices ask for the chi-chi discount.

Be safe...

LOBO

Ruffianomega

12-19-08, 01:52

Lobo 003

12-20-08, 01:49

Whose coming with me, me and my friend are driving to texas from phoenix and we will be stopping by nogales tomorrow night. We'll probably spend majority of the time in Obsessions unless its lost its charm well hit up another club. If you can make it let me know I'll see you at obsessions tomorrow night around 10pm. I'll be wearing a newsboy cap and a scarf. Looking forward to having fun with my fellow mongers.

I'm planning a day trip for shopping on saturday and I will probably stay around during the evening for some over due mongering, I'm still trying to shake my cough. Maybe I will see you there if you're still around on saturday or any other compadres that are in town.

On another note Fort Huachuca Southern Arizona's largest military installation restricts travel to Mexico

http://www.svherald.com/articles/2007/05/19/news/doc464e9be6e8d05229702618.txt

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/news/272390.php

Be safe...

LOBO

Ruffianomega

12-21-08, 21:52

Hey All, just a quick posting on my Nogi trip (would have been fun to party with ya Lobo) arrived in Nogi Friday night at about 11pm. Walked to Obsessions was pretty busy.

It was ok a bunch of 6-8 walking around with one girl that was a 10 she kind of looked like Kim Kardashian super hot. The other girls paled in comparison, not alot of lookers there. We stayed there about an hour drank the bucket of beer (5 beers for $12)

Then we left to lord blacks also kind of busy not alot of hotties bought a bucket of beer for ($12 for 5 beers)had a lap dance from a young hot chick she was about a 8-9 about 22yrs old nice firm breast. Asking price for full service was $180 as tempted as I was I learned from reading this forum to negotiate pricing I was able to get her down to $150 but still too rich for my blood. Ideal would be $100 to $120.

Then we left to Boleros. Was also pretty busy but nice average hotness between 7-8. Got another lap dance from this hottie.$21-25 average lap dance price. For full service also asking $180- and a BJ was $110. Whaaa $110 damn that. She wasnt willing to go less then $150 on FS and the BJ price was just outrages. I passed.

Then we went to studio 69. Nice place however we got there about 30 min before closing only had a handfull of girls. Saw my girl ALEX. Beautiful natural firm breasted (she said they were natural) had a lap dance with her. She is cool, always smiling and laughing, but during the lap dance she kept bouncing on my man unit kind of started hurting after awhile and she kept joking and laughing during the lap dance. I like my lap dances a little more sensual. Also trying to charge $180 for FS.

We ended up leaving Nogi around 3:30am to continue our trip to Texas

We'll probably be going to Juarez during my visit, looking forward to what juarez has to offer. Looking into the juarez forums for more info.

Good times. Good mongering. Good people

Lobo 003

12-22-08, 04:13

I found Nogales to be fairly calm Saturday night, nothing out of the ordinary, same friendly people I bump into everytime I go. I however was more vigilant with who approached me and paid closer attention to my surroundings, I'm happy to report that night was normal as usual except for the bitter cold, I felt like a walking popsicle.

I think they are finally starting to listen to our grips about their prices, I make it a habit of asking the price on everthing now. In one of my earlier posts I b**tched about their reluctance to adjust their prices to the new exchange rate just like the rest of Mexico has done. They have finally implemented new prices most clubs will charge $10 US for a girls drink and $20 US for private dances it's still extremely high but better. The prices for FS with girls hasn't changed much they are still comming in around $140 to $180. They are moving in the right direction however slow.

After the new year I will post my opinions and thoughts on drink and service pricing. I want the information to be fresh on their minds with the new year and not lost with the comming holidays.

All clubs were fairly well attended especially with Christmas around the corner, I did see more girls providing FS to many customers maybe it's the good cheer of the holiday season. Many girls will be leaving and going home starting sunday for the holidays, so thing might be bit slow.

Obssessions not a bad attendance for saturday, they did have a good crop of girls new and old. A group 6 to 8 Americans had most of the girls attention, my girls did manage to break away to come and sit and say hello for a little bit. My favorite told me to come back because she wanted to speak to me oops! I never went back and she goes home on sunday I guess I'm in for a spanking when she gets back, that will be fun.

Boleiro, not many girls but all the usaul were in attendance a little slow early in the evening but it managed to pick up later on. I spoke to some of my favorite dancers and did a little groping. My friend was playing with all the girls boobs I guess he was looking for that chi-chi discount I talked about in one of my earlier posts. One other thing my girl in Boleiro pissed me off, I don't know if I will see her again I thought we had an arrangement, I guess I was mistaken I won't go into detail on this because it's personal. All I can say is OUCH!!! my heart took a beating.

Lust a little lack luster but they did have some new girls.

Lord Black Oh boy, slow and poor quality women I did suck on some super fine chi-chis with big nipples.

Studio 69 was a suprise plenty of really nice women I did my usual groping and fondling and it was well reciprocated. My buddy fingered a girl in one of the booths in the main floor untill she orgasmed 3 times WOW what a show. It's nice to see when a girl enjoys her work.

I didn't check out any of the dance clubs this week or even walk on Avenida Obregon it was just to damn cold.

All in all it was a good night and I finally got the number of a girl I've been chasing for about 2 years. When I first met her in Boleiro, she no longer works there, we hit it off real well but in subsequent visits she would look at me from afar and avoided me but last night when I walked in to the club she intensely eyed me for a good 30 minutes, and I said to myself here we go again, she went to the back and disappeared and when she resurfaced she then came straight to me as if I was her long lost lover and planting one of many big kisses on my lips and plopped her sexy butt on my lap. Needless to say we had a lot of catching up to do, now that I have her number I will have to catch up on the physical parts.

Merry Christmas and a happy New Year

Be safe...and Best wishes

LOBO

Lobo 003

01-15-09, 10:03

Looks like our buying power has gone up the peso is trading as of 1/15/09 at 14.13 MEX to one US dollar.

I hope they are paying attention down south, I expect better prices from drinks, dances to women. I've just about shaken the holidays off and I'm about ready to party once again, I'm starting to get that itch and only cute latinas can scratch and give me soothing relief. Especially since Curves in Tucson my former favorite hangout got a stick up their butt, I think they enjoy sitting on it.

I think the Candy Man has got it right he stopped partying in Tucson a long time ago, nothing beats the affection that true genuine latinas provide. American women, well they got their noses in the clouds and a stick up their you know what...

Be safe ...

LOBO

Bubbanaz

01-21-09, 07:22

This is my most favorite site to come to on the ISG. The only place in Mexico where 140-180 price is standard. Be in Tijuana next week 25 street 40- 80 club girls. This is where things are differernt 11-12 for a room with a bed and shower are standard. Things are even better in Laredo be there the week after "aint gas prices great". Will be on a border town sweep except the great satan nogie, well might come there for one night I do have a big tax refund coming and to keep the riff raft out will spend 300+ for a doll maybe 2 or 3 just to keep things interesting. I remember it being 60-80 but as ya'll want to keep it expensive I'll help out. No don't thank me. Just pay more. It's easy just reach a little deeper. Last time in laredo 50 for a doll was an hour in heaven including a room and bed.

Good luck

Lobo 003

01-22-09, 08:55

The night life in Nogi has really calmed down, plenty of cars cruising up and down Avenida Obregon and not to many people walking the street with friends I really miss the days before the drug wars. Weekend nights in Nogi would really energize me and give me that jump in my step, now I find myself longing for a time past. Most towns in Mexico no matter how small behave like big cities but Nogi is changed. The streets other than Avenida Obregon really died down around 1:30 am which was odd they're usually hustling and bustling untill 3am, oh well I guess it's like the seasons where things change no matter how much we don't want them to. As for safety issues I found nothing out of the ordinary I even crossed the tracks by myself, everything felt normal.

I have been fumbling around with the idea of partying in another town and getting away from border politics, more specifically Guadalajara, as of lately I've been feeling a need to go home. I need some big city energy back into my life, Tucson is to layed back and quiet anymore for my taste and Nogi, well everbody knows the problem there.

The clubs that I visited saturday were well patronized by the locals not to much happening other than drinking. First time in a very long time I finally felt welcomed in Boleiros, I don't know if it was the birthday party they were throwing for Alondra, I won't tell you her age, but the owner and waiters passed me several times while I had a girl on my lap without buying her a drink and they didn't look at her twice, I think I was more mortified that she was going to get into trouble rather than herself. Also Boleiros prices are adapting faster to the new exchange rate rather than the rest of the clubs, I was offered a girl for $140 US without even asking and without negotiating, still high but better. The ticket person down stairs in Boleiro was trying to keep my change after my $21 privado I guess he figured I would forget after the dance, a nine dollar tip for collecting the money, I don't think so. The waiter in Obsessions also did not return my change, 2 dollars it's not a big deal I usaully give it to him, I expect my change to be offered to me, that was just plain rude.

I think I was Tio LOBO or the Bank of LOBO on saturday everyone was trying to borrow money from me, the waiters, hustlers even new girls that I had just met they said they will repay it, but I won't hold my breath, I have been surprised by their commitment to comply to their word, if they do offer to repay I usually just let them keep it ,they apparently need it more than I. Things are really bad for them right now, I helped those that I know, and gave a little to those I don't. All the money lending really cut into my playtime abilities. They even got all my pocket change, pennies and all.

I caught up with one of my regular girls in a TD after she chased the honeys that were keeping me company. We chatted and she told me how much she missed me because she hadn't seem me since before Christmas, she was all luvy duvy. I got a privado from her, not for the dance but for the chance to speak with her privately. The subject was me winding down my mongering days and getting serious about finding my better half. I told her that I am planning to spend more time in Guadalajara actively seeking a mate. This conversation made her very sad and teary eyed, she told me that I did need a woman to wake up to, one that would make me breakfast in the mornings, someone that would take care of me, at the same time giving me hugs and kisses while she explained what I needed in a woman, that I had to stop playing with the girls in the TDs and also, not to abandon her, hmmm. I told her I don't want a slave or a maid but a friend and a lover. I'm still perplexed as to what she was insinuating, we are extremely good friends and we have spent countless hours together in conversation and playtime, was she offering herself to me, in any event I told her it was time and I had to find a tapatia, she said you want one from down there how about some place else. I guess if I want someone respectable I need to clean out my closet and become respectable myself, I don't want my kid to ask me, daddy were did you meet mommy, Ah, ummm, ah, don't you have any homework.

On another note, I have been planning on inviting girls to come live with me for a while just to try it out and wouldn't you believe it two girls invited themselved to my home without any help from myself, anyhow I told them to make travel arrangements and come on over. I guess I'm going to have company for a while.

As most of you know that I have been downplaying my adventures in Nogi with women for a while now and just been focusing on the state of affaires as to the operations of the clubs and safety and getting the most for your money. I will continue to do so in the future because I have other interest and busines in Nogi. Anyhow playtime was fun saturday I only had plans to get one girl for the evening so I told my hustler to bring me one, he brought three, I liked two of them, not to say there as anything wrong with the third, so I negotiated for all three girls $70 US apiece they wanted $100 each, I had to explain to them how much they are receiving in pesos, once they understood they will be receiving about thousand pesos they all agreed. I thought about doing them all at once but I decided against that and had them scheduled every hour. The funny thing thing is they all showed up on time like clock work I didn't have to get dressed between girls, I sent one home another came in got naked, I cleaned up slipped on a new condom and off we went untill I did all three. That was fun my own little assembly line of pure latina p**sy.

Be safe...

LOBO

Ruffianomega

01-27-09, 04:20

I am planning a trip very soon and I intend to spend lots of money. I want to know where would be the best place to go. I have been to nogales and rocky point but never to Tijuana. From everything I read it seems tijuana is the place to go. Seems like the prices are much better there also.

Rocky point prices. $100. $200

Nogales prices. $160 +. Seems like all the girls start at about $160

Tijuana. From reading in the forums it seems tijuana prices can start around $40

And also would it be better to change your cash to peso because of the $1 to 14peso exchange rate. Seems they don't always average the exchange rate our properly in mexico.

Open for discussion:

Which do you like more and why? . Tijuana, Nogales, Rocky point

Looking for lady lovin and the best possible place.

Lobo 003

01-27-09, 08:05

Ruffianomega,

I've never mongered in Tijuana and I wasn't impressed with Rocky Point so, you probably know my position on this subject. My best price for a full service girl is $40 US in Nogales and she was a good 6-7 in looks, I seem to be averaging $70 US for an independant girl. I stay away from street girls the independants are much cleaner.

If your going to party in the clubs expect to pay $140-$180 US I rarely do this and I don't really recommend it.

If you want the best bang for your buck, literally and figuratively, you'll need a hotel room and you need independant girls provided by street hustlers or simply street girls.

As an example many of you know Cytlaly we get along real well but she is not my cup of tea. One day several months ago she was not working and I bumped into her partying and at the same time looking for work. She has always quoted me $180 US at her place of work, needless to say I always declined, however this time she saw me and jump on me like a fly on shit and then she commenced her girly routine to get me excited. I asked how much, she told me $180 I told her that's to much, she countered $170, responding I told her your not working and I'm never going to pay you that high of a price, she came down to $150, then $100 what she settled for I won't say she told me not to.

My point is, if you get girls outside of the clubs you're going to pay a lot less and have a hell of a lot more fun because you will not have anyone counting your time except for the girl.

I hope this helps you decide as to your destination. Just remember you'll have a good time no matter were you go. If you haven't traveled to Tijuana I would highly recommend you experience that town, I hope to visit Tijuana some day before I'm done playing.

One other point not all girls are back from the holidays. Some of the clubs are recruting new girls from all over Mexico, specifically Mazatlan, Cancun and the state of Sinaloa. Based on what I'm told they should arrive in about 2 weeks.

Be safe...

LOBO

Lobo 003

01-27-09, 10:13

As I promised right before Christmas that I would discuss pricing in Nogales.

First thing that I have to state is that the strip clubs in Nogales Sonora are entities onto themselves, they are their own businesses and they have the right to price services according to their expectations as to the assumed desired demand for their product.

Secondly, all the clubs owners, waiters, bouncers all ask me what the other clubs are doing, they all want the inside scoop on their competiton, so here it is.

I write this as a recommendation to the club owners based on what is told to me by American visitors and Mexican patrons as well.

Customer Drinks,
Currently drinks are fairly priced $3 US for a beer they are about a dollar over the night club prices. I guess the extra dollar is for the titties on display. Of course they have their bucket specials which is a good price. When you charge $5 US for a basic drink, a soda ,beer, juice, I'm not meaning mixed drinks, your way over priced and tourist become angry.

Girl Drinks,
They have always been way overpriced $13 US for one drink now in the $10-$11 range, we don't even pay that in the US, you're in Mexico give us Mexican prices that is what we expect and why we go there. When we do pay for a drink you bring the girl something that looks like a Chinese tea cup, are you serious, it really pisses me off when I pay $13 for a Chinese tea cup of juice. That's why I don't buy drinks for the girls. I know the custom in Mexico is to buy the girl a drink but as US customers we are accustomed to buying dances not drinks so I would ask you to focus your efforts on that. You will probably get more money from us through floor dances rather than drinks.

Girl Drink Recommendations, $5-6 dollar US would be fair enough, I myself might even buy the girls some drinks.

Dances,
In my opinion a $10 dollar floor dance (sexy) is overpriced your closes market to compare is in Tucson and we can get $5 dollar floor dances. Don't compare yourselves to Curves they are overpriced. The club in Tucson that most resembles Mexican behavior is the Candy Store and their prices are extremely fair. $5 dollar floor dance, $10 VIP private and good drink prices.

Recommendations $5 dollar sexy dances

Privados
Once again over priced at $20 plus, $25 in Obsessions, $21 in Boleiros and the rest of the clubs are about the same. We don't have to go to Nogi to spend that kind of money we can spend that within the safety of our US borders, if the object is to increase our frequency of visits then encourage us to do so by lowering your prices, have them more in line with our customs and pricing.

Recommendations: $10 dollar privados, I for one know that I would spend a lot more on privados at $10 each. I have done it before when Lust lowered their prices for a while to $10 for privados. I stopped after they went up to $20 plus.

Services
I will just lump all services here and focus more on full service. $140- $200 dollars, get serious we can pay that in the states and not travel to a dangerous country with a drug war. Just because Nogales Sonora shares a border with the US doesn't mean we can be charge US prices. We go there because we want a break from high prices and the freedom not allowed back home. The reasons of why you have been receiving those prices in the past is beyond my understanding.
I do know from my many conversations with Mexicans and Americans that the prices in the strip clubs are way out of line and that mongering in the clubs is not recommended.

Recommendations for services
Based on what I have gathered over the years a fair price for full service in the clubs should be $80-$100 US for the Nogales market. Right now an independant girl is going for about $60-$70 US the club girls are not worth 2 and 3 time that. What I also recommend is that the clubs stop taking such a big cut from the girls when they provide full service and stop feeding false dreams of endless American dollars.

One other recommendation, Americans don't like to be harrassed, we are independant thinkers who want to make our own decisions. We don't like waiters trying to force us to buy the girls drinks and then not allowing then to sit for a bit to converse and get to know them. If we like the girl we will buy them drinks and spend lots of money on them, maybe even something special. Force us to spend and we will walk.

Finally I know that world conditions are not at their best and both economies are struggling, but if the Nogi clubs encourage us, the US consumer to return by being fair and not trying to make a months wages on a handfull of Americans and by lowering prices then we will both have full bellies and smiles on our faces.

Be safe...

LOBO

El Jimador

01-30-09, 22:57

Trying to get down to Nogi this Saturday afternoon. Don't want to spend alot and I like the atmosphere of Salon Regis. Have seen working girls there in the past, but had the misses with me so I could not investigate.

Any idea about current prices for the girls there or any sugestions for a place similar to Regis. I can't stay late, don't really like the strip clubs and don't want to travel to far south of the border.

Thanks

Rio Rico

02-01-09, 23:57

For all of you who may be venturing south of the border I have a recommendation for you as to who to call for any assistance that you may need, especially if you are new or uncertain. I have known this guy for several years and use his services exclusively, his name is Ben. You can reach him at 631 14 74 228. When in Mexico dial 044 first, when still in USA dial 011521 first then the number. He is available any time so don't do it alone, give him a call. You will be glad you did. He can save you alot of time and grief and get you what you want, guaranteed.

Lobo 003

02-02-09, 00:34

For all of you who may be venturing south of the border I have a recommendation for you as to who to call for any assistance that you may need, especially if you are new or uncertain. I have known this guy for several years and use his services exclusively, his name is Ben. You can reach him at 000 00 00 000. When in Mexico dial 044 first, when still in USA dial 011521 first then the number. He is available any time so don't do it alone, give him a call. You will be glad you did. He can save you alot of time and grief and get you what you want, guaranteed.I do not recommend giving out personal names and especially phone numbers of your suppliers over a public forum. You just made him a target. They read these post in Nogales. Only provide information in private emails.

LOBO

Rio Rico

02-03-09, 02:23

Appreciate the concern Lobo but this guy IS Nogales, Sonora. That is the way he treats his clients, straight up with everything out front. He speaks perfect English and has worked all the clubs and knows Everyone.

Lobo 003

02-03-09, 05:16

He speaks perfect English and has worked all the clubs and knows Everyone.

Funny thing, as long as I have been going to Nogi I have never met a Ben in all my years and I thought I new everyone. I wonder if Ben is his real name if it's not then he's ahead of the game. Maybe he uses a different name with me, they do that with different clients for their protection.

Just an observation, no foul, no blame, no nada, you got me thinking...

LOBO

Ed...

02-11-09, 23:48

Lobo 003

02-16-09, 08:38

I went south of the border on saturday to get an update for you guys on the status of our play ground in Nogales Sonora.

I set out to investigate the safety of visiting the town on foot. I walked approximately 5 miles round trip to gauge the feel of the town and to venture where I have not tread before. While on my walk about I purposely set out looking for honeys in hiding, plenty of nice non working girls walking the streets. I scoped out many business establishments, restaurants, shoe, clothing stores etc., any time I saw a potential target I walked in to the store to get a better look in hopes of starting up a conversation. The bank was probably the best place with the most potential hookups, but I did not enter in due to security, I jokingly told my friend that I should open up a bank account just to meet the girls. In any event I didn't manage to find anything to my liking, except for the one at the vh grocery store, only one problem,she was to young.

All in all my excursion into the heart of the dragon brought up no danger, no close call, no bullet with my name and no attempted kidnapping, absolutely nothing and I didn't loose my head, of course some will argue that point. I found the inner town to be very friendly and safe. One positive note of venturing so far into the town is that you loose all the harrassing street hustlers about 3 blocks from the border.

Overall I found the town to be upbeat with a lot of positive energy, not the sleepy scared town that it has become.

Our hunting grounds were equally safe and upbeat. Avenida Obregon was extremely busy with cars cruising the street. Not to many people walking the streets at night, I'm guessing it's due to the cold and not the drug war.

First time I tried to enter the new dance night club THE CUBE with a $5 dollar cover known by the locals as El Cubo, I arrived about 10:30 pm to the club and I was not successful in entering due to the extremely long line. It has turned into the place to go and be seen, lots of wonderful looking ladies from both side of the border. Next time I will need to go earlier in the evening to be able to get inside. To me it appears to be the new Club Dubay which is closed permanently.

The construction on Calle Elias were most of the strip clubs reside has begun and the street is being ripped up to repair the damge from the monsoons. Lord Black has been forced to close and will probably never reopen, Studio 69 is in danger of closing and I'm told that it will probably fold very soon. Boleiro and Lust are going to have a very difficult time weathering the construction and bad economy. In my opinion, it looks as if there will be an exodus of talent to Obsessions. Most of the bouncers and waiters are allready there.

Sorry to report that the asking prices for full service has gone up. I purposely asked the going rate in every club I visited.

Drinks are about the same except Lust theirs are up a little over their competition. Private dances are down hovering around $20 dollars for most clubs.

Full service with a girl is back up to $180 US in the clubs. This price is pre-negotiation, the best I could due was $170 US. They have me perplexed, I know why they due it and I still don't understand. Even the more well known restaurants in Nogales that cater to Americans such as La Roca, Lupitas and others have adjusted their prices to reflect the new economy and targeting Mexican customers. One restaurant, their name escapes me is closing down in Mexico due to poor sales and relocating in Tubac, their theory is that Americans won't come to us so we will take our menu and go to them, SMART!!! The strip clubs think they can still attract US customers, if they keep their old frame of mind they will go bankrupt. There are very few US customers to speak of, the only ones that I see down there are the hard core ones like my self, you might as well call us locals because we know the ins and outs of our sport in Nogi, and we don't need the clubs. I treat the strip clubs as foreplay to my main event later in the evening.

I knew my evening was not going to end with some play time because earlier in the day during my walk about I was looking for my Dulceria and it burnt down, I guess I missed the fire sale damn!, later at the restaurant I ended up with a male waiter when I usually have a very cute female waitress that I flirt with and then my first rendezvous which should have been a 2 girl tag team at $60 US each didn't show, and the high prices in the strip clubs. ARRRGH!!!!

I have lost my patience with the Nogales strip club market and their consistent high prices, there were some girls that just left me salivating for a piece of their pie, but I will not and refuse to pay those prices. I just don't think it is worth the effort to travel there to play in their clubs anymore unless you want to pay extremely high prices, then by all means have at it.

The street hustlers and independant girls is still a very viable market and priced fairly. At one massage parlor I was offered a $25 dollar massage and the girl wanted $50 for full service, I didn't like the girls so I didn't bite.

One other point is that the independant girls are starting to offer all night service, it's been happening over the years but now the frequency has gone up and it's starting to gain in popularity with more and more girls. They are trying to get $200 US for this service. I guess their thinking is that we got a client so lets make the most of it.

I hope this post keeps you informed so that you can make your plans accordingly and balance your options as to which border city to visit in Mexico for happy time.

Be safe...

LOBO

Bubbanaz

02-16-09, 11:15

Please to report nogi still the place not to go. Laredo and Tj still wins the $$ award. Juarez is dangerous but still fun in message pallors. Lobo keep trying, I personally will not walk the streets of nogi to find the right prices. I am sure most people won't from here. If the clubs want to charge what they want, they can, you have stupid people every where and I want to help. So this Monday night I will pay a bar girl $500 for 45 min on a couch. We need to keep out the riff raff from Nogi. Pay more get less.

Ruffianomega

02-19-09, 04:35

I have been going to Nog for the last 2 weekends. It is only dangerous in how addicting it is. I love that place, this past weekend I went all by myself, I was going to meet up with a girl there. But when she went to work at night I went to work also.

Obsessions is not the place it used to be, only a few hot chicas maybe 2 or 3 and they seemed more into themselves drinking and partying within there own groups. Then I went to boleros.- that place is hot, sooo many more girls to choose from about 5-6 girls there were super hot, I hung out with sheila from Veracruz I was her Valentines for the night. I was able to negotiate down to $160 fs I know it was high but she was worth every penny, some girls after you pop once they dress up and leave not sheila after the one pop she just stayed with me rubbing on my man unit, she wanted to go again so she kept rubbing and sucking on my happy organ, so we went at it again on the sofa in the room downstairs in boleros. GREAT TIMES! I walked around Nogi at night by myself, no problems at all I even saw some little kid about 10-12 yrs old walking around by himself at about 8pm, so I figured either this kid knows people or nog is not as dangerous as everyone thought.

Everyone I talked to said that club 69 has been closed. I didn't actually go see it for myself but it was the common word on the street.

Also hotel pancho villa behind boleros seems like a good place to look for girls. A few strippers I spoke with said they stay there.

I stayed at the fray marcos really nice place I got the suite so I can bring a few girls back. But I only ended up taking one girl to my room, and even then she got hassled by the staff not letting her go up to my room.

Well my fellow mongers I plan to make a trip to Tijuana next weekend for my first time with a few friends I can't to see what that place has to offer.

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Lobo 003

02-24-09, 05:35

I hung out with sheila from Veracruz I was her Valentines for the night. I was able to negotiate down to $160 fs I know it was high but she was worth every penny,

I guess I should have introduced myself to you that night, I was sitting right next to you while you fondled my girl, damn you !!! just kidding. I'm glad you met my very good friend Sheyla ( this is how you spell it correctly everybody miss spells it ) I've known her for many years and we get along real well. I'm the guy that she was talking with and would get up occasional to hug me while on your lap and also I'm the one that brought her the Valentines box of chocolates a rose and her photos, remember, you looked at the photos. As far as paying $160 for her services you forgot to add the multiple privados and drinks I think she was a wee bit more than $160. Beside she told me everthing you two did and I hate it when she does that. YUCK! I won't go into anymore detail than that. She was upset that management pulled her away from you when you wouldn't cough up any more money. Maybe next time we will have a formal introduction.

Funny thing about Boleiro after I chewed them out for about a year and chased customers away in regards to their policies, they no longer trouble the girls that come and talk with me. I think they know who I am and if they want to receive a rave review and get me to intice the American clientel to come and visit their establishment then I guess they need to behave around the strip club critic. Now I know how a food critic feels.

I do have to give them credit for trying to change, for that I give them an A+, and yes I am feeling more comfortable in that club.

I almost forgot the pesos is trading at 14.94 to one US dollar. Wow! almost 15 to 1.

LOBO

Ruffianomega

02-24-09, 18:56

That is too funny, yeah i do remember you lobo, you seemed like cool peoples . i am planning a trip to Tijuana this weekend so ill keep everyone posted on how it compares to Nogales.

What a small mongering world.

Rio Rico

02-26-09, 19:13

Lobo: when are you coming back to town. Thought it might be interesting to introduce ourselves as I am sure we have probably seen each other here in Nogo either at the clubs or elsewheres. The first bucket will be on me.

Contact me or leave a message here as to when, I am here all the time.

Lobo 003

02-28-09, 02:00

Lobo 003

03-05-09, 06:35

Hey guys Nogi is fairly safe right now from all the drug violence, it has calmed down for the time being, of course that's no guarantee that it will flair up again. Two of my sisters went down friday to shop and they told me it was calm, peaceful and quiet and they returned home safely. Another family member was down there on thursday with family in tow and they returned safely home.

Everything is calm I felt safe walking the streets at night alone. Construction along Calle Elias where Boleiro resides is under way and they have it all fenced off, you will have to walk around the barracades to get to the strip clubs.

A lot of hot new talent in Lust and Boleiro althought prices are still high. One girl in Boleiro quoted me $200 then she said I'll give you a special price of $170 geeez, get real. I was happy with a mouthful of boobies and my finger up her woo woo. The pressure is still on in Boleiro althought most waiters don't bother me anymore, but one, was a real ass and he really pissed me off I wish I could remember his name so I could chew him out on here, I guess I will have to give him an attutude adjustment outside of the club. The f**ker won't even say high when we pass on the street..

Again I was the Padrino (Godfather) for many nogalenses I went through a hundred fifty dollars before I even knew what happen, and hadn't even wet my willie yet, everyone was hitting me up for money. I guess I should just walk the streets and throw money in the air and say bolo padrino, bolo padrino.* (explanation at end of post) One dollar here, two there, tacos for him a bag of chips for him, f*ck thats what happens when you know to many people that have become friends. One shoe shine boy harrassed me all night long first I gave him 2 bucks then later on another 2 bucks then he wanted 10 bucks, damn what do they think I am, a bank?

I highly recommend using pesos when negotiating with the girls they get confused trying to calculate the exchange rate which is about 15 to 1 use it to your advantage. You can pay in dollars but negotiate in pesos, make them see the light. It doesn't work in the clubs yet, they are regulated by management and they work in dollars. My first girl wanted $100 I told her $60 and explained to her that it's about $1000 pesos, she agreed. Most girls are trained to think they are worth $1000 pesos, that's their target price, so mongers use this tip to negotiate while the exchange rate is in our favor.

Finally, the clubs and girls are waiting for all you big spenders that love to jack up the prices sky high for everyone else. Now is the time to splurge while it is safe to do so. Remember we got to keep our girls in Nogi overpriced and spoiled.

*..."Bolo Padrino" is where the Godfather of a newly baptised child steps out to the front of the church and all the children gather and yell bolo padrino the godfather proceeds to throw money to the children, somewhat like when a pinata burst open and all the children rush to get the candy.

That's your lesson on Mexican tradition for today.

Be safe...

LOBO

Bubbanaz

03-09-09, 10:35

We little people didn't jack up the price. I remember paying as little as $60 for full service. And I remember, will not to say who, but with encouragement people here saying they are getting out the riff raft. We reap what we sow. I went to Tijuana this weekend and cost wise never made a better choice. Never paid all cost over $72. Liked Nogi before the Evil ones. I"m laughing too. This time at you not with you. What baffles me I found 2 PX CL girls that go for less (alot less) than Nogie that are quite good. Why are you guys still going down, I think you all like the statis. "I paid the most for a room. " the girl ain't getting the money. I love it. And glad I don't play here. This is The Most Expensive Place to P2P for real riff raft and you are it.

Lobo 003

03-09-09, 19:43

I'll just do a quick report for Nogi. Right now it's a buyers market if you know where to look.

Clubs still to expensive!!!

Very safe in Nogi !!!!

I got 2 girls for $60 each by talking in pesos. PESOS PESOS PESOS!!!

Use pesos to pay for things, exchange rates vary from 11 to 1 to 15 to 1 depending where you shop. I put it to the test this weekend, use pesos.

I found a girl who will charge $50 FS, that's before I begin my negotiating, and she has many friends who will work. I guess I just have the ability to hagle and the charisma with the girls. Lucky me, I'm just going to bypass the clubs.

I complain about the high prices in the clubs for you guys they have no effect on my playtime.

The clubs are curious as to why I haven't gotten a girl in their club in a long time. I was asked this question, if they only knew how outrageously expensive they are, then they would understand.

Finally Mexico is pissed at the United States for causing the bad economy worldwide. You should have heard what I was told and some of their theories.

Be safe...

LOBO

Louis Xiv

03-14-09, 06:14

Hey guys,

Looking for a new wingman for Nogales. My bud decided to get married. Yea, I know, whimp. I generally head down from Tucson on Thursday or Friday, late afternoon and return by early evening because of early AM work. I guess safety in numbers is the key word right now, although my recent trips have been uneventful except for the higher prices. I am a little fearful to venture too far south. Contact me offline. One other question since this is my first post, is there a similar discussion group for Tucson? Looking to find local talent in the event Nogales becomes cut off.

Cheers,

Louis

Bubbanaz

03-14-09, 09:51

I would be looking in the clubs but this is still the worst place in the free world. Tijuana still $60 for a girl $12 for the room. American dollars. One girl in Nogie $180 +/-. Hmmmmm. Gas prices! I think with a little and I mean a little effort and time your dollar will be triple what it is in Nogie. Tijuana is the place to go. I think Yuma also offers better services. So let's see 60 vs 160 Ohh Street girls they are $20 dollar on average in Tijuana not $60 and are within a block of the clubs. Actually they are around the clubs. So let's keep this real the bar (hotel) can charge a price. The girl can charge a price. I don't think the girl is charging the high dollars not unless she is stupid. Bar owners. They need to hook up with a hotel. For here if you pay over 80 you are stupid if you pay 50 you are riff raff. 1f you are paying $160 please keep coming and support the economy.

Ed...

03-26-09, 21:49

Lobo 003

03-31-09, 02:55

I did the Nogi shuffle again saturday night, as much as I want to go else where I'm still drawn to that town.

I have been making plans to go to Hermosillo for some action and also I've been wanting to make small incursions into Mexico untill I reach my destination of Guadalajara. I almost made the decision to go to Hermosillo that saturday, but I checked my private mails on the usa board and ChicaLuv wanted to do a field trip of Nogales. It's very hard for me to turn down Nogi, so I agreed to meet up with him that night.

I must say he is one heck of a nice person cordial and friendly. It was my pleasure of meeting him.

Anyhow, since I decided to stroll the streets of Nogi ,evading flying bullets and trying not to loose my head I decided to call some girls up to see if they wanted to play. I tried several and managed to reach one, she agreed and I told her to bring friends because I wanted several girls to play with. We agreed on a time, actually I told her when to meet me because she was being indecisive and finally agreed to meet me after making two phone calls to convince her to our 9 pm rendezvous. Like most girls they were late, I had given up on their arrival, good thing I was chatting with ChicaLuv because they all of a sudden appeared.

Backing up a little in the evening I met ChicaLuv in Obsessions exchanged pleasantries chatted a while met a couple of nice girls fondled them got some phone numbers for future use. My good friend Sheyla was working there but apparently she was a little mad at me for something, she wouldn't let me touch her boobs, actually I know what it is but that is personal between me and her.

Back to our dubauchery, ChicaLuv tagged along with me for a tour of Nogales while I meandered the streets. I met up with my 9 pm girls exchanged greetings, my girl introduced her friend and I introduced ChicaLuv. My agreement with these girls was $50 US for 2 hours of bliss I wanted both but me being the gracious host presented ChicaLuv with one, he accepted without even blinking an eye.

We got seperate rooms and commenced festivities, both were very petite ladies extremely low mileage, but not inexperienced in the ways of satisfaction. My girl was very pleasant easy to talk to small body small titties, fantastic body for having several children I couldn't even detect baby damage. She was so clean I could have eaten off of her, hmmm, I did, damn that pussy was so clean and with no odor, that was some fine dinning. I got another BBBJ with out even asking for it, boy she had a fantastic technique, she went at it for about 30 minutes untill her jaw got tired, then she told me that it was my turn. I poked, proded, flipped, licked, sucked, nibbled and even tickled her, she was game for everything except for the booty poke. I will repeat with her but this time I will be selfish and have them both to myself and maybe more if she finds new friends.

ChicaLuv and I bounced around the clubs looking for action and we found several. ChicaLuv found one to his liking in one of the clubs I won't say which club in order to protect her employment, but I arranged for their meeting later that evening, I think he was happy, he had this big ole' happy smile after their encounter.

A little more about our adventure I told ChicaLuv lets take a stroll so that I can visit with friends. I introduced him to many of my friends and street hustlers, they were all trying to get me girls, you can't blame them for trying. One of them is a very good friend but after that night I will no longer use his services I was trying to be nice and throw him some money that night. He wasted almost 2 hours of my time, then when he does have a girl he over prices them trying to get $130, I don't know how many times I've told him that I will not pay that price. All the other hustlers are trained for $40 to $80 US when I choose to use them, not that I need them, I do better without them.

Lots of new girls in Obssessions, Boleiro and Lust. 2 girls stood out among the rest in Boleiro a petite one and the other a taller gorgeous woman. I made the comment in regards to the taller girl that she appeared to look American, after much eye flirting on her part I invited her to speak with me, I got a privado and drilled her for information while my hands wondered her body. I found out that although not native to the US she is Americanized and travels between countries and even works occassionally in Tucson and found out that I actually met her in one of the local Tucson clubs. My point is while her eyes and body language were saying one thing her verbal expression and attitude about her approach on work went from drop dead gorgeous to drop dead butt ugly!!! Everybody knows my position on Americanized Latina women and you could not find a better example and visually see the difference of pure Latinas verses American Latinas. Anyhow, I see a glimmer of hope for this lady and I will investigate further, I want to see if I can iron out some of the wrinkles.

My final girl was an after hours fling. After work she came to my hotel room and we did our thing nice titties big nipples big areolas I was in heaven sucking on her boobs and she seemed to like it because she would snuggle up closer to me everytime I had her tits her my mouth. Very tight couchie, not very willing to do many positions, I couldn't get her out of the mish positions for very long, but I made the best if it. One thing I did find out, she loved it fast and furious, I fucked her like a piston in a high performace engine, and surprised the hell out of her that I could go so fast for so long, it's a good thing I run regularly and have extremely good indurance otherwise I probably couldn't keep up. All in all I had a smashing good time and worn out to wonderful ladies, I didn't get to sleep untill 6 am so I stayed over that night.

Finally, safety in Nogales Sonora no problems to report it seemed to be a fairly normal night I asked many people about the drug wars and they tell me it's all quiet. The only problem is the pesos is gaining strength against the dollar it's about 13.40 to 1.

Be safe...

LOBO

Bubbanaz

04-08-09, 06:38

When posting these type of post please put music to them. There should be a storm of people going here for the play it ain't happenin'. Becuase fantasy verses reality always prevail. Nogi suks and is way over priced and anyone that goes there to play is. Not worth mentioning. So please when posting on here please, NO PLEASE add a little mpeg. Maybe violins But, definitly something with trumpets. Triumps should be bold if they happen. I personally don't think they are happening here very often, if at all. 50. 00 for two hours I am still laughing, these must have been really. I'm not saying, wasn't there. There must have been a blue moon that night Average price in Nogie is 155. 00 US. One shot, no bed. Sale price there are none. Thanks. You guys dream. But it ain't happening. Always good for cigs just not the P2P. Riff Raff signing off. PS. I remember when it WAS 60 in the clubs.

Lobo 003

04-08-09, 12:03

Hey Bubba,
Sounds like you're jealous that I'm able to find quality women for a fair price in Nogales. Apparently you're just skimming and not reading my post in detail. I know how to speak the language, how to negotiate, wheel and deal and I know how to make it happen in Nogales. I'm the one with the silver tongue and these are direct quotes from people that know me I'm El Patron, El Jefe, the King, The Boss, El Padrino of Nogales and I'm treated like royalty in and out of the clubs. I'm not to much into tooting my own horn but when someone has the audacity and says I'm a liar and what I do in Nogales is untrue. well, that just gets under my skin and FUCKING PISSES ME OFF. I've noticed from your last few post that you're itching to have an argument with me, I blew it off thinking you were being sarcastic well Bubbanaz, you got your wish. It's not my fault you can't make heads or tails out of the adult scene and are incapable of making Nogales work for you. Do all of us a favor if you don't like Nogales don't go there keep your snide remarks to yourself and leave Nogi to the pros like myself. People like yourself are the reason the clubs are over priced, you don't know how to play there, so please stay with your $20 US, 15 minute putas in Tijuana, I'll stick with quality over skanky worn out girls any day. Besides the more that Americans stay away the better the prices for me. Also, Laugh all you want Bubba, ChicaLuv and I are the ones with the happy satisfied $50 US 2 hour grins on our faces, which we will repeat numerous times. Finally, I hear laughing oh, that's me laughing at you now for your incompetence and ineptitude in Nogi, see what happens when you sling slanderous remarks. I have a good reputation on and off the board and I will protect it fiercely from anyone that tries to blemish my good name.

Read this from ChicaLuv on the usasexguide forum for confirmation and proof of what I can do. http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=790046#post790046

Quote from ChicaLuv,

As noted, I was treated to a FULL unabridged tour of Nogales Lobo003 style. WOW! Lobo thanks for sharing your heretofore private play land. Lobo003 is quite the charitable gentleman. He is indeed El Jefe de Nogales.

Lobo makes wheeling and dealing in the carnal secrets inside the Nogales flesh scene seem like Math 101.

The evening started in Obsessions, where THE LOBO gave lessons on how to charm and dazzle not only the ‘working girls’, but the entire staff (both man & female). I didn’t have any private dances but did take notes on how the Master worked the crowd.

After Obsessions, I was taken on a tour of several very lively and sight-filled clubs. All on the other side of POE. At each club (to include the entire route in-between) The Lobo was greeted by the staff & girls as an ole friend. They kissed and groped him every step of the way.

Luckily for me, I was guilty by association, and even managed to merit a few fleshy encounters myself. Under The Lobos tutelage I began to get the feel (pun intended) of making the NOGGIE connection. While The Lobo was shoring up his harem, I managed to ferret out a few possibilities myself.

Luckily for me, Lobo had the evening events all scheduled out and we keep on his tightly timed schedule, making sure to hit all the lights while still makings his 9PM hottie linkup. He had mentioned to me that he had arranged meet one of his numerous hot Latina ladies (with one of her girl friends in tow) for a three-some. So being the eager student, I was allowed to tag along to the link up site outside one of the hotels.

While we waited for the pair of Latina lovelies to arrive, the Lobo continued sharing some of his proven secrets. Just prior to the ladies, The Lobo suggested that he would share one of this trophy Latinas with his under study. I was again surprised by his generosity, but "didn’t blink an eye" at accepting his offer.

The two ladies arrived, and they were both HOT. We got our respective rooms and in route to the arena Lobo relayed to me that he had originally plan of having BOTH for his evenings’ opener. I was again honored by his generosity, and suggested that we might switch ladies during halftime. Of course, that never happened as we both lost track of time and in fact there was no halftime. Just one continuous two hour game of unending adult fun.

My little petite lady was a little shy at first, but soon offered numerous DFK followed by the entire menu of fun adult adventures. She was sooooo much fun. Most of us don’t have this much fun our entire lives. In the end, she never mentioned money and I simply placed 700 pesos ($50 US) into her purse. She responded with another long deep wet kiss and her phone number. Almost demanding that we get together soon.

The LOBO and I must have heard the end-of-game buzzer at the same time, as we exited our respective rooms almost simultaneously. Both ladies looked aglow and freshly primped. My secret wish at that time was to continue the exchange program and renew for yet another game of carnal knowledge cross-border exchange.

But THE LOBO had his proven timeline, and we continued our hunt for new playmates. We retracted our steps through all the clubs and reconfirmed our previous liaisons’. Most of these ladies don’t get off the night shift until 3AM. Yes, that is 3AM! So, the Lobo had again plan for this and had his many street contacts hunting down additional outside (non-strip-club, local women, many now out partying in the local night clubs) talent. There seem to be a lot of local girls, looking to make a few quick dollars and have some fun fleshy fun doing it.

Numerous of the Lobos flesh-scouts brought women by for our review, but none met up to the standards that had already been set during our initial first round adventures. So we continued moving between street flesh mongers, to strip club beauties and even massage parlor introduction. During this time I managed (with the help of The Lobo) to make a after-hours date with one of the strip club hotties.

So at 3AM we happened by HER club as she walked out. She handed me her travel bag and said "I’ll meet you at your room in a few minutes. She DID just that. There was no mention of money and she treated me like a long lost love. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, multiple positions. And plenty of AMORE! After it was all said and done, and the sun started up we ended our evening. I gave the lady 1100 peso (about $80 US), she thanked me and left me with her phone number & a long wet wanton kiss.

I slept from about 6-9AM, before walking across the border and driving home. WOW, what a great night. The opportunities were numerous, and ladies beautiful and THE LOBO was a great host.

Many thanks LOBO

End ChicaLuv quote,

Be safe...

LOBO

Bubbanaz

04-09-09, 10:48

If I [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off good. Just telling the truth. If it hurt's, too bad. I just want people to know if it is bad it is bad. They can go down there and meet up with the King of Nogie, that is what your calling yourself. And find the good life. But what about those few who want a good time without the hassle or meet up with you. I get what I pay for, most times. I have had a few bad girls. But I have been bad a couple times myself. You do your reserch and you will really find out who I am. I am not going to flame you as you did me. I could. And should but. I enjoy the fact without embellishment or princess stories I get what I cum for. I will be down there from time to time to get "cheap" cig's and a lap dance. Not much more. Would have love to met you but we became enemies much too soon! About 6 years ago when riff raff was not a term used here, my lord. Love you dude Just help out folks who are coming in alone and want a good time.

Tell the whole story.

Lobo 003

04-10-09, 02:28

Bubbanaz,

You finally read my post in detail and are starting to understand what I've been trying to do, to bad I had to admonish you in my last post. Although you're still walking on thin ice with your current post, I will over look it and move on.

The whole point of my posts is to inform everyone including experienced and amateur mongers as to the possibilities that can be found in Nogales. I'm the one putting myself in harms way in order to improve the sport in Nogi. You don't need to go through the hassel of meeting up with me to enjoy the fruits of Nogi, that's the whole purpose of me educating would be lone travelers in my posts. Anyone that wants to meet up with me does so at their sole discretion. I'm not pushing anyones buttons and forcing them to meet me, after all we are not mindless automotons, we are thinking human beings and are capable of making our own decisions. Those that do want to meet with me are only wanting to see Nogi through my eyes and gain some knowledge for a better experience in that town. I'm just trying to show people if you look you can find your desired results in Nogales.

You didn't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off for telling the truth about Nogales, it is for the most part way over priced and I will have to agree with you on that point. I've also argued that very point many times in pasts posts. What angered me is the fact that you insinuated that I was lying in my posts with my exploits and prices for services in Nogales and that they were all fabricated lies, that's what caused the defensive attack on my part. I don't have to lie about what I do in Nogi THE TRUTH IS JUST TO DAMN JUICY.

As far as being the King of Nogi as you put it, get real, I told you that's what people call me, it's cute when I hear it, but I'm not much for titles or positions. There is no way that I would believe such a statement. I'm like everyone else the only difference is I have experience and knowledge.

Just remember if you want to keep it cordial between us don't attack me personally or insinuate that I provide false statements, attack the flesh peddlers of Nogales Sonora like I have and will continue to do so.

One more point, all of my posts are accurate and truthfull !!!

Be safe...

LOBO

Bubbanaz

04-10-09, 09:58

No I don't read your post as they are concieted and arrogant. And as I have said they don't have an MPEG with them. LOBO LOBO. Aurgue with me all you want. And think that Tijuana is a joke. But if you have not gone there. You are what you are. But this site is to tell what most people expect when traveling, without being hosted and toasted, thank you.

Lobo 003

04-11-09, 00:52

Bubba,

A little hot under the collar are you, well now you know how I feel.

As for being hosted and toasted you brought it upon yourself. I attack no one without provocation. You bring on the fight and I will gladly dance with you.

I'm willing to put this Argument to bed, but if you keep up with your snide remarks I'll stay on you like stink on shit.

If you call someone a liar expect consequences...

LOBO

Amigo69

04-13-09, 13:16

Bubbanez,

I agree with you that for the everyday American the clubs are way too high at $180 for FS. I have mentioned this several times in the past and have been going to Mexicali and Tijuana where the average American with no deep knowlege of the cities can get $80 for 40 minute full service with high class good looking chicas at several clubs.

However it sounds to me that Lobo knows Nogi inside out and has developed many connections. He has no doubt spent much time to gain his knowledge and connections. Good for him. I have done much the same in Mexicali. I do not think he is a liar. I think it is more difficult to get chicas for less dollars in Nogi than Mexicali or Tijuana in the clubs, but Lobo deserves his recognition for knowing Nogi iside out and his ability to get chicas. I am sure he would be willing to help anyone out in this area. If I go to Nogi again I would not mind hooking up with him and buying him a few drinks. I would do so out of respect for his knowledge and perhaps he would impart some of his knowledge to me. I would do the same for anyone who wants to learn the ins and outs of Mexicali.

I think because of misunderstandings tempers have led to words which really are not intended.

Take care

Amigo 69

Lobo 003

04-14-09, 05:45

Semianon

04-14-09, 08:22

Bubbanez:

I am not sure why you are reacting to Lobo with such hostility. I have never actually met him myself, but I can definitely vouch for the advice he regularly gives in this forum. While my few experiences in Nogales do not match his, they are close enough that I have no doubts about the truth of his claims.

Lobo:

I am sure you do not hear this often enough, so I am going to say it again. Thank you. Your reports on Nogales are extremely helpful, and are truly appreciated by many who read these forums.

Everyone:

I think anyone who speaks Spanish and has reasonably good looks could match Lobo's exploits, with a bit of effort. Unfortunately, I do not speak Spanish, and my appearance is average at best. Even so, during my last trip to Nogales (back in February), I had a wonderful evening involving 1 woman for an hour followed by 2 women for another hour for $240 (for those who have trouble with math, that is $80 per hour with each woman), and I am certain I could have talked them down if I had actually tried. I was thinking too much with the wrong head to haggle properly. : grin:

Avoiding the clubs is pretty much mandatory though, as Lobo has indicated several times, and I learned for myself during that same trip. If you want details, I have a full report in the Nogales section of USASexGuide.

Ed...

04-16-09, 03:36

I know you had to defend your Honor, Lobo, but grammar alone will keep anyone with any cognitive skills at all from paying attention to some snarky loser.

Bubbanaz

04-16-09, 11:17

Just think Ed has jumped in.

Bubbanaz

04-17-09, 11:03

I think you can and should bring the big guns against me, Ed. Ain't one of them. He likes and thinks high prices for here is the norm. Bring in LOS I liked him for tales. Or are you the one and the same. Your stories I can't figure out. But I know big time you all (at the clubs have been and still pay too much). The truth hurts. Ed I want the stories about you getting (for real) ladies at the cluds for what 50 or 60 I think much higher like 140+. I think you all like paying drug lords. Who is running the clubs? Who are we paying the money to? If we are going to pay 140+ to the girls, How much are they getting? I think Lobo should play apart here. A long with Ed and LOS. I am trying to help you people without the BS from the gods here. You want to pay tribute I am fine with that. Lobo have fun. Ed you owe him a dinner. LOS They wait on you I have not. I still am laughing here. I'm not paying the price. I love the alternitives.

Bubbanaz

04-17-09, 11:39

Lobo I want your dogs.Or at least another a $50 two hour love story. Or a Ho story. Your dogs ain't to good. Ed has me scared.

Lobo 003

04-17-09, 19:03

Aaaah Bubba,

You're bringing tears to my eyes, you want to read another 2 hour love story after you emphatically denied that you don't read my posts, WOW !!! you really do like me. Why don't I come over so that I can pat you on the head and tickle your tummy and tell you what a good little boy you are.

Oh! make sure you get your dictionary out 'cause I'm using really big words in my post.

I must Thank you Bubba, by attacking me you only increased my notoriety and diminished yours. Go figure, you bad mouthed me and only made me more popular. You should see all the PMs I have received for special trips to Nogi.

That was the real reason for your attack, you sly little devil, your so nice.

LOBO

Lobo 003

04-22-09, 03:38

Indecision and being a codo cost me multiple girls:

Once again I find myself in Nogales Sonora that rinky dink little town I love so much. I met up with ChicaLuv once again, I think he is starting to like that town and becoming addicted to the night life there. See what happens when you see Nogi through my eyes and learn to play the game, your whole perspective of that town changes, the entire experience becomes sweeter and brighter. ChicaLuv is a quick study and has become one hell of a wing man, he has entered the sacred realm of the inner circle of LOBOs friends. Ooooh!!! that sounds really nice.

I started out the day by calling some girls and like usual I can't reach all of them but I managed to reach one, that's all I need to get the nights activities started. I called her up and her friend answered the phone I was told that she was at the moment dancing and to call a few minutes later. I tried again and couldn't reach her so I figured I will see her in the club and will then discuss arrangements.

My wing man got to the club before I did and chatted with my girl and confirmed that she would indeed meet us at our rooms after work I told her that she will need to bring along another girl for my friend. She asked what she was going to get paid I low balled her and told her $500 pesos and she balked at that figure so I asked her how much and she tells me $150 US I told her she was crazy. We negotiated back and forth for a few minutes and finally agreed on $1000 pesos($75 US) I told her that I would be back a little later if I wanted her services. ChicaLuv and I went on our way looking for cheaper game, after all we like a ganga, we found some lovely girls but none would be willing to work outside the club, they were new and a little apprehensive. We returned to our first girls, she figured I would not return so she decided to work more hours, but in any event to give her ten minutes to think about it. I gave her ten minutes to think, she gave no response except flirting with us a few minutes at a time, then I walked out on her.

Outside the club we walked the streets of Nogales to find some girls and hustler friends. Once people see me the word spreads like fire that I'm in town. It was a little slow early evening because of the police presence but I kept looking for action. Finally I start seeing familiar faces and wouldn't you know it the fire beat me to the other side of the tracks, one guy told me that a hustler friend of mine was looking for me and had 2 really nice girls. I went looking for him and couldn't find him so we stopped into Boleiros for awhile to wet our whistles and do a little groping.
Exiting we came across my friend and asked if I needed girls and I emphatically said yes and told him to bring them as soon as possible. We walked to the hotel while the girls were being reached. We did not have to wait to long before their arrival, 6 girls and 4 of them in my opinion were f*cking hot I would have done all four had the price been right.

I knew right away that there was going to be a problem because my hustler had brought me a Madam and her entourage. Anyhow, knowing better I had to ask, how much and they told me $130 US I said no way!!! that's just way to expensive, so I low balled them at $50 and they all got offended, so the negotiating went on ,$120 from them $60 them $80 from me we couldn't make an agreement I told them it's a bad economy and that's to high of a price, they left and got in their taxi, negotiatons on my part have now ended. The hustler continued talking to them and they finally agreed to $100 US for 1 1/2 hours. Refusing their offer I countered with $800 pesos and they said no!. We left ,2 blocks later my hustler came running up behind me and told me they had agreed to $800 pesos. I allready had started to make other plans and no longer wanted their company, explaning to him that their services are no longer needed. Beside I was afraid they would no longer provide good service. Get a girl mad and she will give you very, very bad service, it was better to move on. I tell you this because I'm trying to educate you through my experience so that you can negotiate on your own and if need be, know when to walk away. The reason I'm so tough on negotiating is I'm trying to reform the price mentality of Nogales. I now have help in this department ChicaLuv understands this concept, you must be in control at all times. I finally got through to my hustler and I hope he now understands what price I'm looking for, I informed him that I regularly get $50- $70 US good quality girls without any of his or other hustlers help. Don't bring me any over priced bunnies.

Moving along, we popped in and out of the clubs multiple times got some dances more phone numbers from different girls and came across some very good old friends where I introduced ChicaLuv to the Nogi gang. Just the socializing alone would have made the night fun and enjoyable.

Just to keep you guys current I did ask at one club how much for a girl and they told me the least I could have her for would be $160 WOW!!! bad economy and still high, the good news they are $40 cheaper than before that's if you consider it good news.

Safety in Nogi, very nice night the mood is improving and more people are out and about on Avenida Obregon. That spark of nightlife is comming back to the old town. No one seems preocupied with the drug violence anymore and nothing to report on that. Seems to be fairly safe to me for now. One other point about Avenida Obregon on saturday night it reminds me of the America of the 1950s it looks like something out of American Graffiti. All the cars cruising, revving their engine burnouts tire squeals girls popping their whole bodies out of sun roofs, very, very cool.

Ok now the good stuff, we bumped our heads all night long trying to score a decent priced girl, we had made arrangements with some girls for after hours but guess what 2 girls from 2 different clubs stood us up damn what a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off. My girl did call the next day and apologized, she had her reasons. Now we find ourselves lonely with an empty hotel room and no lovely bunnies to hump on, so my final recomendation was to go to the after hours club, VIP Fiesta Palace. We walk over to the club, it is now about 4:30 am in the morning chatted with some friends and found a couple of girls that work in the local clubs and made arrangements to meet at our hotel room. My girl cost me $70 US she was trying to only give me 40 minutes because she wanted to get back to parting in the VIP club, she kept checking my watch. While I was giving her a pelvic exam I moved my watch back 5 minutes, a little later she checked again so when she wasn't looking I moved it back another 5 minutes I did that untill I got a hour of playtime. OH I'm bad...

Anyhow, she gave me a really good time lots of moaning and groaning nice titties super hot coochie, loved it doggie, she wasn't much on the dinning at the Y she said it felt weird and tickled, no problem I'll just pull something else out of my repertoire of tricks all was fine except for the rush factor she even allowed me to do her bareback for awhile, not a very wise decision on my part but, oh it feels so wonderful. Everytime her friend would knock on the door she would tell her, almost ready, I don't think she really wanted to leave because while we were in our most heated of positions she wanted to continue even with a sore pussy, what a trooper.

According to my friend his girl was $800 pesos (60 US) but that's his story...

Next week I'm scheduled for a double date with some normal non working, out of the adult industry girls, just the type that I'm looking for, we're also trying to set ChicaLuv up on a blind date and maybe some more of my friends could possibly join us. Hmmmm...Maybe I'll have an appetizer before my date just in case she doesn't see eye to eye with me about dancing between the sheets.

Be safe...

LOBO

Bubbanaz

05-02-09, 10:00

Is this what most people can expect or is this what most people will find whitout paying your tribute. I do not use big words here. Your command of this place is? I don't want to be so inplanted and am not. I'm sure glad that your clients are impressed. I'm just not sure that the rest of us are not. It's not truth vs. Lies It is Truth vs. Reality!

Lj Mexico

05-03-09, 06:14

I need a wingman this coming weekend in Nogales, anyone plan on going down Friday the 8th, I have a feeling that my friend is going to bail out with money problems, so I might need someone down from phoenix, only thing you have to pay for is gas spilt in half about $10, its guaranteed puss when your around me in the clubs, let me know what’s up.

Critical Sal

05-10-09, 00:39

Hey all,

I plan on going to Nogales some time in the near future and need someone to go with. I don't know how safe it is for me to go by myself at night. I'm new in Arizona so I don't have any friends yet. Pretty much any weekend would work besides next weekend, so let me know.

2nd Chance

06-14-09, 21:54

Lobo 003

06-15-09, 04:51

Man, wtf fellas.

Hate to quote Rodney King but, "Can't we all just get along"? This battle of words is kinda killing my groove here on this thread.

I'm wonding what has happened to the quality posts? Let's get back to the fun at hand. How is the action in Nogie? I'm planning a trip down there in 3 weeks for a weekend adventure and I want to be ready!

That's old news my friend.

It has been a little quiet around here lately, I've still been playing in Nogi and still getting my deals, however I have come to realize how powerful my knowledge is as to mongering in Nogi and have refrained from divulging any more of my secrets, not to say I won't in the future, I'm just meditating on the subject for now, besides I can't have a bunch of Lobitos running around Nogi. There won't be any girls left for me.

As for action in Nogi, !!! f*cking shit !!! those dumbasses who run the clubs are stupid or highly intelligent Einsteins I can't figure which, you try to figure it out, prices for girls are up again around $180 to $220 for full service. street girls all want $100, the worst the economy the higher the price. There is no money for the girls the American presence has declined tremendously and most girls go home with their daily pay which is approximately $300-$400 pesos, 20 to 25 US, daytime girls receive less $15 US.

I myself am getting tired of negotiating everytime I get a girl, it's has become way to redundant and tiresome.

I was negotiating with one club girl for outside playtime she initially wanted $150 for an hour I told her $50 she then gave me a funny look, she countered with $100 US I told her 80 US for 1 1/2 hours needless to say she went home with $15 US and I kept my money safe in my wallet.

Another girl I was working made only her day shift pay and evening pay and I was going to pay her $100 US if she skipped her night shift, go figure.
I told one girl in a club that I have a pocket full of cash and can't seem to spend it in the clubs anymore, she said spend it on me, I told her not at $10 a drink and $180 plus for her company, that's 2 to 3 girls on the street. I don't know maybe I'm just a codo (cheap ass) the girls I do get outside the clubs seem to be very content with their compensation.

I have become disalussioned with the strip club scene in Nogi for now I'm just tired of their high prices from drinks to girls and I refuse to pay their over inflated prices, of course outside the clubs is a completely different world. I guess I should post a current Nogi update for everbody that still wants to go there.

Finally, if you want to monger in Nogi make sure you bring lots of cash you can still have fun just make sure your money is gold plated, no! make that triple gold plated.

Bring your PASSPORTS!!!

Be safe...

LOBO

Balto1

06-15-09, 18:48

Lobo 003

06-15-09, 20:41

Why do they think theire vagina is worth so much. I think maybe it is because one of us american guys once gave them the asking price.

I the girls think theire pussy is not worth anything less. American guys please be smart with your negotiating remember Mexico is a third world country.

Exactly Balto many Americans have paid the asking price without negotiating and the club owners laugh at all the naive and gullible Americans. That has angered me on many occassion because I've seen it first hand and I'm told everything that goes on by the workers male and female alike.

As far as Mexico being a third world country that is precisely the point and I expect third world prices not equal to or higher than American prices I'm not saying their pussies are worth any less than in the states but the economics of a third world country dictates a price that is reflective of their economy.

Here's an example of a transaction, a new girl comes in from Obregon while she was new I tried to acquire her services, the best I could do was $100 US I was willing to pay it because she was f*king hot, our scheduled date didn't happen, the following week I tried to hook up with her again. This time she was a hard ass and explaining to me that she got $400 US. Needless to say I no longer desire her services. I told her with that mentality you are going to be a very lonely girl once your newness wears off and since then she has received very little work. Now my question is who in their right mind will pay $400 US for third world pussy. See what I mean, Americans need to stop this behavior.

If everybody negotiated like myself we could probably bring the prices down. We as Americans need to set the prices and not let them dictate the prices to us. After all it's our money and they want it.

Be safe...

LOBO

Lobo 003

06-16-09, 07:35

i still find myself going to that small border town on a regular basis and i do have to admit that i do enjoy myself immensely. i like the people and the friends i have come to love. everybody is extremely cordial to me and my friends when i bring them along. the town is great with plenty of opportunity for friendships and naughtyness, however the strip clubs can become a nightmare on occasions. it seems that prices fluctuate on the whim of the managers and owners, which is fine, but they need to be realistic with world and local economic conditions. especially while we are experiencing this severe recession.

tourist traffic is extremely slow many business have closed their doors from night clubs to restaurants. many properties are either up for sale or rent, i have never seen so many empty store fronts, all the peddlers are trying very hard to make a sales without success. one peddler ran a half block to catch up to an american lady to sale her a wooden cross after he reached her he was still not able to make the sale.
the cops are in force patroling the streets trying to keep peddlers from harrassing american tourist. my normal shoe shine boy got into trouble with the police while trying to sell me some jewelry, i didn't want his merchandise but i figured i could help him out with a few dollars, he tried to cover it up by polishing my shoes but they still busted him. i seen him later at 4 am and he told me that they took all his merchadise and the $5 bucks i gave him they drove and dumped him across town, so i slipped him another few bucks.

as far as safety is concerned no american tourist should even be worried about walking the streets of nogales, the drug cartels violence is quiet the swine flu is in europe you should be safe i still recommend to go with friends. i regularly walk he streets alone and i don't have any problems, it's funny for me because no matter were i walk i happen to bump into someone i know.

construction along elias steet has been a pain in the ass, thats the street where boleiro and lust are located. it was all ripped up for about a 1/4 mile fenced off very dangerous and difficult to navigate to the clubs. i am told that the construction should be terminated by the 19th or 20th of june, it's actually looking pretty good.

dance clubs are still well attended they not only attract the youth of mexico but also the us side. avenida obregon is still heavy with weekend traffic and everybodys having a good time.

the strip clubs have been poorly attended as of lately with exceptions of boleiro they start off slow in the early evening then get busy later on. i still hate this club for the pressure they excerpt on you to buy girl drinks. a couple of weeks back one of the girls i know had an aching back and needed a massage she was literaly begging me except that the manager was behind me and before i could do anything he chased her away. currently they do have a very good selection of girls from all over mexico, one bad point, that's were i got the highest quote for playtime of $220 ouch!!! this girl insisted that i know what she charged i kept telling her no because i knew she was going to be excessive, but the more i refused the greater her insistency, so i let her tell me, guess what i told her, too much no thank you.

lust has done a lot of remodeling with a few extra vip rooms on the floor and a pool table. the problem with the extra additions is they are starting to run out of room on the floor and becoming cramped and uncomfortable. from the new vips you can't see the floor action real well, pretty soon you will only be able to stand in that club. some new nice girls one that speaks good english and they also implemented dress themes for the girls, saturday is evening gown and i believe friday is school girl, it varies from day to day. also i was quoted $110 for a girl of my choice which peeked my interest however the following week he quoted $180 what the f*ck. it seems if i don't ask for prices they give me something interesting and when i do ask for a price they stick it to me, i guess they think i'm horny when i ask and willing to spend. sorry bud but i'm not that stupid!!!

studio 69 i can't figure this club out, it's the best looking club in town it has a great wonderful elegance and yet it is poorly attended. they used to have the finest girls around and it reflected in their prices. now you can count the customers on one hand and you don't need three fingers.

lord black is still closed it may reopen once the construction is completed.

obsessions has become a hit and miss proposition very poorly attended, the quality of girls fluctuates wildly although you can still have a good time. here's a plug for one of the girls that works there she's a good friend of mine and she is out of this world. i thought she was beautiful before but now, she's a knockout. she just got back from obregon and sporting a new set of very realistic bigger boobs damn they feel real for bolt ons, firmed up and lost about 15 lbs. she went from a good 9 to an all new 15 don't ask me how that's possible she did it and i told her i think i'm in love that made her blush. oh by the way her name is dana pronounced donna in spanish, she's expensive guys at $200. out of all the clubs they are the ones that never adjusted their prices for privados and are still at $25 us all the other clubs charge $20 us

steet action is still to be found on the street where obsessions is located and avenida obregon, just look for the girls running in packs and hanging out on the street. prices range from $40 to $100 us.

as of lately, like i mentioned in one of my earlier posts that i am getting tired of negotiating, so what i have been doing lately is to just flat turn them down and make them go home. i want them to go home and contemplate their stupidity not only the girls but their hustlers as well. i'm just tired of their shit you can only take so much before you explode. it's worked in the past and it's time to do it again.

i hope that provides you guys with a current update so that you can make you plans accordingly.

the only thing i didn't cover were my playtoys but i'm tired of typing for now.

passports are required now!!!

be safe...

lobo

2nd Chance

06-16-09, 08:43

Mr Chub

06-16-09, 19:40

Hey Lobo,

Its great to see your posts again. Thanks for the updates and all the tips for all of us. Currently working on getting that passport and seeing first hand the current happenings in Nogie.

May need to check out Agua Prieta.

Mr Chub

Bob Az

06-18-09, 03:03

Lobo 003

06-18-09, 06:30

I moved to Connecticut for 6 years and in Bridgeport there was a flytrap called Teddy's. It was the same thing! Prices started to creep up and the quality of service was going down. It ran like that for almost a year. Prices even creeped up at AMPs and other clubs.

A large group of us mongers decided to form a "pact" and not offer anymore than $60 for FS. Of course they all said "no", but after 4 months... guess what. They started to say "Yes".

We then dropped it to $40 as further punishment for their stupidity and ran that for another 2 months. Eventually, they all got the message. Word spread about the pact to regular customers (non forum members) and they joined in. Eventually it balanced out at $50 to $60. I haven't been there in 4 years but the last time I checked the Bridgeport forum, it's still at $50-$60.

We may not be able to influence the guys who live in Tucson or the Nogales surrounding areas, but I think there are enough of us on this forum board to make some impact. Hopefully, word will spread and more will join in.

I don't know what the target price should be. The last time I actually desired anything from the girls at Nogie, lapdances were $7, Privates were $15, and BJs were $60! Yeah, it's been awhile. I've avoided Nogie because of the crazy prices that have just been going up and up and up for the last 7 years.

It's time we all took a stand.

I've been doing just that, I've showed a few guys how to manipulate the scene in Nogales with great results. However 3 or 4 guys have a very limited impact. The other problem is not to many people monger with the frequency that I do in Nogi to actually make an impact. Most Americans go there very infrequently and don't know the ins and outs of the Nogi scene and therefore have very little impact with what I'm trying to do. They go all gun ho, guns blazing with pockets full of cash and think nothing of over paying for services. Their only focus is to get laid as many times as possible, and thats OK but let us do it reasonably for a reasonable and fair price. Know when to walk away and learn to think with your big head. When their done partying that's when they start to complain b*tch and wine about how expensive it is in Nogi. I've witnessed this first hand.

I'll put it out there to all mongers who dare to venture to Nogales Sonora. If we want better prices WE MUST TAKE A STAND AND EXCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR DECISIONS. It might mean no pussy. I've bitten the bullet many times and ended up with nothing.

From my perspective based on years of mongering in Nogi and current conditions $40 US is extremely low although desirable, $50 US can be had with a few women $60 US to $70 US is more digestable, common and the girls accept it easily.

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My target range for our pact would be $60 US for full service one hour I get this price on a regular basis and seems fair to me, so it is very attainable.
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The strip clubs are a bit more tricky to navigate my best advice is to offer $60 US and if they turn you down walk away.

Some unknown mongers are allready doing this they are low balling the girls in the clubs and I thank them for helping set the stage. How do I know, the girls tell me and complain about my compatriots.

Lets try this before I tell how to attain the results.

Be safe...

LOBO

2nd Chance

06-18-09, 07:43

I agree that $60 is fair for 1hr in Mexico. $60 only got 15mins at that Connecticut club. As for getting results, I think I can hold my own. Been there done that.

My main problem (as you pointed out) is the same as most. I don't go often enough to invoke corrective behavior on the chicas.

You hit the nail right on the head. Consistency is the key. Organization is the next great factor. If people stick to their guns and invoke the $60 rule, change can occur.

WHAT DO YOU SAY, FELLOW MONGERS ON THIS THREAD???

Join this little revolution? Make a positive impact? Spread the word!

I challenge all of you to help fix this issue. Put them in their place!

2nd Chance

06-18-09, 07:51

Bob Az, I was heartbroken when they shut them down. It was closed for about a year. When they reopened, it wasn't the same. Now, Teddy's is back to normal.

I just posted about my desire to to to Agua Prieta. I was going to go there a year ago and got a great map from Border Guy, but work life has kept me from going.

I finally get a break in the first week of July. I may sneak down there July 1-2.

Anyone want to come along? There are safety in numbers!

I was born and raised near Bridgeport. Must be were I got my values from. You should check out Agua Prieta. Some nice young new girls at the Patio. Going rate is 400 pesos for the girl and 100 pesos for the room.

Bob Az

06-19-09, 03:01

I finally get a break in the first week of July. I may sneak down there July 1-2.

Anyone want to come along? There are safety in numbers!July 1-2 may be tough, Friday or Sat are better for me.

Bigbob69

2nd Chance

06-20-09, 01:07

Well, darn. It's too bad our schedules conflict. We'll have to try to plan a weekend adventure!

July 1-2 may be tough, Friday or Sat are better for me.

Bigbob69

Lobo 003

07-01-09, 11:48

My purpose for going to Nogi was a 2 part rendezvous first to see a dentist then to implement my $60 dollar rule and guess what, my rule works. I sent one hustler and his girl home because they wanted $100 US he told me you've paid it in the past and that's the going rate, I told him not anymore all I pay now is $60 US, needless to say both were not pleased, he tried to get the girl to come down but once the girls have been in Nogi for a while they become jaded and think they're worth a shit load of cash. No more sugar daddy for you. I also hooked my friend up with a girl, I actually showed him how to go about it, they are going out on a lunch date, I might have to do a double date so that I can translate for them I told the girl to bring a friend for myself if it happens, maybe we will have dessert after the meal as well. Maybe??? Damn right, I'm going to have some dessert.

Tourism is way down and all merchants are hurting with many more closed shops and empty buildings. while I did my walk about on the streets of Nogi I was surprised to find that there were no American tourist anywhere in the tourist zone and this was at 3pm in the afternoon. The only American on the streets was my friend, every merchant targeted him for a potential sale I must look Mexican next to him because I wasn't harrassed by anyone or maybe it's just that everyone knows me. There were about 5 other Americans in the clubs.

Once you leave the tourist zone and enter the real Nogales it's a fairly normal thriving city with plenty of merchants and customers. If you pay attention you can see the difference from tourist zone to the city of Nogales. We meandered to the park to check things out and hang out for a while. A little fair was in progress I found some homemade ice cream and we relaxed at the park for a while. A few hotties passed us by then we spotted a super hot chica that was on the other side of the street who appeared to be working, she sure dressed the part, beside she would stop guys and talk to them so we commenced to follow her untill we lost her near the grocery store, damn she was hot. Maybe next time I'll keep an eye out.

Back at the strip clubs things were very slow due to the fact that they had a concert in town, some guy that sings corridos mafia style. In any event prices are comming back down I had one hustler offer me a girl for $80 US which made me almost swallow my tongue, it sure is nice to hear a lower price without demanding it and I had a girl offer me a real cheap deal according to her of $150 in the clubs. I'm still laughing at her cheap deal.

I was told by some of the workers that they are amazed by how much the new passport rule has effected them. They were assuming that things would be the same. Mexico is dealing with a triple threat to their economy, one being the drug wars, two the swine flu and now the new passport rule. Maybe just maybe we might see prices come down, I'll keep you guys up to date since I'm in the trenches all the time.

As of right now things appear to be safe for would be travelers. The construction is still not finished on Calle Elias.

On another note I'm about ready to go back to Guadalajara I was down there approximately 3 weeks ago, mostly met with family, fixed up the house a little. I did absolutely no mongering at all but I did manage to meet a couple of very nice regular girls which I got their phone numbers and have called them a few times. They both want to know when I'm comming back I guess I made an impression. My cousins want me to meet their female friends as well the next time I'm down there. So either this 4th of July weekend or the following I will go back in Guadalajara and see where things lead.

Be safe...

LOBO

Precocious One

07-01-09, 17:49

As most of us already know, costs for last year, let alone last month, are of no relevance to the current pricing structure.

When I first moved back to Monterrey at the end of April, two of my favoritas at the S/C's had disclosed to me that business was down around 25 percent since the start of the year. That number has probably changed for the worse in just the last four weeks. Three MP's here have lowered their prices by 20 percent(more time or lower price) and one high-end MP is now offfering 15 minute slots to directly compete with S/C privados, something I would have never guessed at this particular location as it is Five Star by US standards.

In it's heyday(2006-7), Calle Villagran and it immediate half-mile surrondings had approximately fourteen S/C's in operation. That number is currently down to eight. On a recent Saturday night, only four were doing business and the other four may have had 50 customers...combined.

At 12:30 AM.

On a Saturday night.

During the weekdays, some of the surviving clubs do not even bother to open anymore. In my opinion, the drastic and unprecedented decline in business here in MX(or the world for that matter) has absolutely, positively nothing to due with swine flu, passport requirements or the drug wars. This is simply the inevitable negative effects of a collapsing global credit bubble with percentage declines and velocity emulating that of only the 1930's.

1500 pesos for full service is so last year.

And for a very few rare cases... so last month.

Lobo 003

07-01-09, 20:08

YES... I forgot to mention the worst offender of them all, that being the global economic collapse. Either way you put it Mexico is hurting, one good thing for Mexico, most of it's people are extremely poor, they have a shorter distance to fall and probably can weather the economic storm better than us in the States. Of course only time will tell the end results of the world economic fiasco.

As far as their price structure from last year to a month ago to now is extremely relevant because as I have posted before, in Nogales and in no other border town, prices seem to go up as things worsen. Prices are still being quoted to me from a 2 year old price structures. I'm hoping for lower prices but I know better and expect higher for the comming weeks.

They're nuts in Nogales when it comes to pricing.

LOBO

2nd Chance

07-02-09, 01:51

As most of us already know, costs for last year, let alone last month, are of no relevance to the current pricing structure.

What you say is true, for the most part. However, in the case of Nogie, the last poster was more correct.

Nogie has no clue when it comes to pricing. It's like watching an episode of the Honeymooners when opened up a diner, gave more food and charged less. When they didn't make a profit, they gave even bigger portions and charged even more less... they loss their asses.

Nogie is the opposite. They're not making a profit, so they charge more to increase the profits, but are driving away customers. Sure, they'll get lucky with the new visitors, but the regulars will revolt soon and the money will dry up.

The reality is, this isn't the sign of the times. Prices should be getting lower everywhere. The clubs should be paying less for booze and we all know they pay their workers next to nothing.

The bar owners are greedy little pricks... that's all. The girls are probably getting only a little bit more then what they were 5 years ago.

Here's a thought... instead of complaining to the girls, maybe we should be complaining to the floor-guys. If they hear it enough, it may reach the head honchos.

Nogales isn't the only game in town. Douglas isn't that far away and may be worth the drive to save the $$$. I know that if I went venturing with 3 of my buds, Douglas is where I'd be heading... or Yuma.

Lobo 003

07-02-09, 05:52

Here's a thought... instead of complaining to the girls, maybe we should be complaining to the floor-guys. If they hear it enough, it may reach the head honchos.

Nice analogy in your last post 2nd Chance. FUNNY...

I've allready been complaining to the staff and also complained to one of the managers. I usaully tell them with the kind of prices you charge I don't need to come to Nogales I can just stay home and pay the same price. They try to justify their pricing but I shoot down every argument they have. They ask me why do you come if things are to high. First of all I don't play in the clubs because of excessive pricing so your prices don't effect me, Second I can get a better price on the streets and Third and most importantly I come for the people. The clubs are just a pit stop and watering hole for me.

One guy caught on to what I do and instead of bitching about not spending in the clubs he finds me girls and usually makes more money through the commissions the girls pay him. These are his exact words " YOU DON'T WANT THE GIRLS IN THE CLUBS THEY ARE TO EXPENSIVE, THEY ARE CHEAPER OUTSIDE THE TDs" he is not the only one to have told me this over the years. The workers and the people on the streets know they are to high, the girls know they are excessive but that's why they are there to make some big easy American bucks. Seems the only ones that don't believe they are to high are the managers and owners.

A manager I believe is suspicious of my actions has implemented new protocals for his girls. His new rules don't stop me I still get my girls, if he was smart he would make it easier for me to play in their extablishment and make money off of me. I've been coaching his workers on what to do and how to do it. I know they read these post in Mexico and they should listen to what we say. We are fed up with their high prices.

LOBO

Lobo 003

07-03-09, 11:23

All bars including strip clubs and any place that serves liquor will be closed saturday July 4th and sunday July 5th because of elections.

LOBO

Dragonman03

07-08-09, 09:20

First time I actually post but I've been a long time reader. Just wanted to take some time to thank you Lobo for providing all the valuable info on this site. I've been to Nogi quite a few times whenever I can get away, but my trips usually lead me to La Conga. I live in Tucson, so I get to go to my fair share of strip clubs, mostly TD's West since you can't really top $5 dances. If I ever meet you, I'll be sure to buy you a beer at the least!

DragonMan03

P. S. I'll be sure to post some actual useful stuff next time. Just wanted to get my feet wet!

Lobo 003

07-09-09, 01:24

Welcome to the club Dragonman03 your feet are wet.

Thank you for the kind words.
Lets here some of your juicy adventures....

On another note I popped down to Nogi on thursday and I did a club girl not that I was looking for club girl it just happened ( LOBO doing a club girl? what the fuck...) I got a smokin' deal, I can't tell anyone where or how much, not yet, shit!!! I don't want to ruin a good thing. This little latina provided me with a porn star experience and she blew me away, literally and figuratively she made up for alot of lack luster encounters. I have never seen a girl with so much energy, my very own energizer bunny, usually I'm the one with all the energy, it was soooo much fun, I just sat there and let her do her thing after she tired it was my turn, I turned it up a notch and demolished that little pussy her eyes rolled back into her head and she convulsed with pleasure and multiple orgasms, she was surprised that her pussy was so sore I showed her what the LOBO is all about, needless to say I completely drained her duracells out of juice. I asked her if she wanted to do a second round 20 minutes later and she said that she couldn't she was spent. Her hot panochita and body left me horny for a week and I'm still walking around with that silly little grin on my face. I think I'm going to tap her gold mine again. NO!!! I need to tap it again Ah... tomorrow is thursday once again.

I think their starting to ease their grip on high prices. We shall see...

Fuck it's fun down there.

Be safe...

LOBO

Semianon

07-19-09, 08:57

Arrived about Noon and tried to get a hotel room. I was hot & tired (I work graveyards), and needed a shower & a nap. Most of them had no rooms available, but I managed to find one at a hotel with no real signage to speak of. Never did find out the name of the place. It is a white building behind Boleiros. A little north of the Hotel Pancho Villa. Room cost me $25, and was clean & reasonably comfortable.

After a quick shower and a 3 hour nap, I then visited Eros Spa for a massage. The guy at the desk quoted me $40 for 40 minutes, which I accepted. He then brought out 3 very attractive ladies for me to choose from. I selected Samantha. The guy then showed me to a room while Samantha went to grab supplies (so he said). Once in the room, he told me extra services were available, ranging from HJ to FS. I asked for prices, and he quoted me a full hour with FS for $140 (including the room). I was still a little groggy from my nap (3 hours was just not enough sleep), and Samantha was very attractive, so I accepted without even trying to haggle. After 10 minutes of very lousy back massage, Samantha had me turn over, used her hand to get me hard, slipped a condom on me, and started a mediocre BJ. She did that for about 2 minutes, then climbed up and started riding me. Normally, I last 20 to 30 minutes, but she did some sort of pelvic rotation that brought me in less then 5. I have to say it was one of the most physically pleasurable experiences I have ever had, despite the fact that she was all business (and obviously not even trying to enjoy herself) the whole time. After she cleaned me up, she finished the rest of the hour with a very lackluster body rub.

When I was done there, I went back to my room and got some real sleep. After resting and grabbing a bite to eat, I decided I was still horny, and so I set out looking for a streetwalker who would hopefully be more fun, even if she was not as physically skilled as Samantha had been. I was not disappointed. I found Blanca and her wrangler standing in an alley less than a block from my hotel. Blanca spoke no English, so her wrangler did the negotiating. He asked for $80 for an hour, but I talked him down to $60 for her and $5 for him. Blanca & I went back to my room, where I slipped on a flavored condom and had her start with a BJ. While her skill was about average, she made quite a show of enjoying herself. This got me so worked up that I started DATY. Although she tried to hold back, it wasn't long before she was spasming and had to stop the BJ to keep from accidentally biting me. After the first set of spasms passed, she went back to the BJ for another minute or so, then the second wave of spasms hit her, so she switched to an HJ and let herself go. By the fourth wave, she was grinding on my face so hard that my jaw was cramping. Her grinding, moaning, and stuttery HJ managed to bring me as well. Afterwords, she collapsed panting on the bed, with a big grin on her face. I am afraid we were both too exhausted at that point for me to find out how she was at regular intercourse.: D

So, in summary.

Despite Samantha's remarkable pelvic skills, I would not recommend Eros Spa (unless you can talk them down to the $60 to $80 range).

If you enjoy DATY and happen to come across a streetwalker named Blanca, I highly recommend.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Lobo 003

08-11-09, 02:39

Sorry guys I haven't been posting lately but I've been a little busy with 3 girls stateside, well now it's down to one, and fucking shit does she like to fuck, she's a 10 plus orgasm girl who can go 3 hours, I'm very aggressive in the sack and she can take everything I got. The best thing about her is, it's free weeeee.

Anyhow lets talk about Nogales I managed to go down there the other day and happy to report that the construction on Elias street is complete that's next to Boleiros.

In one of the clubs I have a litle feud going on between 2 girls they are a little jealous of one another and are struggling for my attention. I'll do my best to satisfy them both wink, wink.

I will stay away from Lust for now because they are starting to get on my nerves the fucking girls need permission to come and sit with me and their club is starting to feel terribly cramped. I called one girl over from across the room and she had to look at the manager to get permission, which he granted ,what the fuck they are not your fucking slaves, so for now I will not patronize that club nor his massage parlor.

I met a really nice girl in Studio 69 who is originally from Phoenix and deported about 2 years ago, I tried to set up a date with her, but nothing happened and I am assuming she made it back across stateside, I wish her well.

Ok now my playtoys, made the rounds of the clubs and in so doing I came across a hustler friend and said he had some girls for me, so I got a room and waited. What he brought me wasn't bad a little small up stairs and wider hips than I normally would like but overall decent. Like I told you guys before, when I go down there I will implement my $60 rule so, I negotiated for $50, that's right $50 for an hour of pleasure. Primarily a mish and doggy girl no daty however very playful I had a great time but I was looking forward to my second girl of the night.

I've been working this girl for about 6 months the biggest problem is that I didn't always see her when I visit. Circumstances fell into place this night, she showed up to my hotel, we went upstairs and the festivities began first I must say she did cost me $100 I negotiated down from $150 I fought hard but relented in the end, I had to get her that night or loose her, so I got her, OOH!!! did I get her.
I got her naked very slim body small breast nice caboose. We started with DATY and she loved it next she polished my woody with a raincoat Argh!!! I like them bareback Oh well, then she hopped on cowgirl and boy was she tight she was having a hard time getting my pecker in her pussy so we put some more lube on and it finally slid in. You should of seen her facial expressions when she was trying to impale herself on junior. Finally got her pussy opened up and we began to fuck I told her to flip and do reverse cowgirl Oh man what a sight.
I let her do some of the work for a while, but now it was my turn and normally I'm a little aggressive but this time I was a maniac I fucked her like there was no tomorrow. I slamed her mish then doggy then back to mish, I grabed her back anchoring my hands under her shoulders slightly lifting her and pounded away, I used her like my personal fuck toy, she kept looking up at me with surprise I would ask her if she was ok she said everything is fine. Damn I gave that girl a roller coaster fuck of her life. That was one super good fuck. I met up with her days later for another round however, now she won't let me fuck her anymore she said that my dick is to big and I was to aggressive and left her body exhausted and her pussy sore and stinging. She told me that she needs the money but that I'm to much for her I countered with, how about if you bring a friend along to lessen your exposure to the LOBO, she may do that, I'll let you guys know what happens.

On another note I bumped into my Brazilian tag team from about a year or more ago that I posted about. We made our introductions and one of them the one I actually liked proposed marriage to me, she's a lot nicer now a lot more feminine, she has actually turned into a very beautiful woman with super nice curves. She kept trying to give me her number I would refuse but she insisted and finally gave it to me OH boy!!!. For now I'm contemplating my dilema.

Be safe...

LOBO

Ratso Rizzo

08-20-09, 03:18

I met a really nice girl in Studio 69 who is originally from Phoenix and deported about 2 years ago, I tried to set up a date with her, but nothing happened and I am assuming she made it back across stateside, I wish her well.

LOBOI met a girl on the street with the same story. The name she gave me was Chrystal.

She set met up, and I got robbed of about $100.

Lobo 003

08-20-09, 07:31

Ratso Rizzo,
Sorry to hear of your misfortune, I hope you're OK.

You might want to consider telling us how it went down so that you can prevent others from falling prey to her misgivings.

With lack of tourism money is tight and scams are abundant.

Everyone PLEASE be careful when you venture to Nogales Sonora.

Be safe...

LOBO

Lobo 003

08-25-09, 12:43

I managed to sneak away from my girlfriend, I think I have mongered to long because I was getting tired of her, I needed to break away for some variety.

I primarily went down south to visit with friends it's been a while and I needed some Mexican culture back in my blood. Needless to say everyone missed me especially the girls they all wanted to know were I've been and what I've been up to. I told them I have a girl friend and she's been keeping me real busy, man did that open up a can of worms. One girl actually was really happy to see me again, how do I know she kept repeating it and staring at me, I would tell her WHAT??? she said I can't look at you, I like looking at you, maybe she will ask me to marry her too, she wasn't hustling me for anything just happy to see me, that made me feel really good and warm all over. Maybe I'll call her up in a couple of days and make her feel all warm inside wink wink.

Anyhow, now about Nogales prices are up again $180 US for a club girl and $120 US for street girls, their pricing is a f*cking a roller coaster ride that I'm getting dizzy and nauseous listening to. I actually was nauseous the early part of the evening and had to go to the placita to compose my self, F**KING prices see what they do.

Everything is calm with the city many more Americans in attendance in the clubs. I'm still the only crazy gabacho walking the streets and I don't mean just cruising the tourist area I walk deep into Nogales.

Studio 69 was actually happening saturday the only problem is they started to adopt Boleiros policies of high pressure sales and that really gets on my nerves. I actually had a good time this time around in Boleiro which is unusual, I guess the manager was to busy to get under my skin and guess what I spent money in there, Lust is still dingy and Obssession is the same. There's some talk of reopening some of the other TDs, Lord Black, Cherrys, Fernis nothing solid just a lot of negotiations going on. I'll let you guys know when I get more info.

Hookups for the night, there were none I wasn't really looking for someone unless something cheap fell into my lap. I almost had 2 girls but my hustler friend fucks it up, later on in the evening he introduces me to very hot 19 year old chica which I probably should have jumped on, but I was implementing my $$$ $60 RULE $$$. Her going price was $120 I negotiated down to $65 which included a $5 tip to hustler, I thought everthing was going fine and ready to happen, we were headed to the hotel untill the girl started squirming behind the hustler trying to back out. I took her aside and talked to her privately and she was not happy doing the deed for less than a $100, I wasn't going to force myself on her or make her accept the price, so no way Senorita, we parted ways, me with my money safely in my pocket and her with nothing nada HA! She's new she needs to learn.

I have to f**king re-train my hustlers again they were all quoting me $100 to $120 for the girls, good thing is I don't need them. I'll make than feel the pain for awhile and not use their services.

On another point I had another girl insinuate marriage to me, she became jealous when I told her of my girlfriend in the US she drilled me hard for information. This girl actually told me not to spend anymore money on her, all I bought was a drink and a dance. Now I'm confused??? why would a stripper tell me not to spend anymore money on her I thought that was the first order of business, relieve the clients of all their money. I'm in a really weird cycle right now, first the Brazilian girl flat out told me she wanted to marry me, now this girl I get more phone numbers than I can use in Mexico as well as the US all the girls want something from me. What the hell do I have big letters on my forehead that says Sugar Daddy.

Oh well it's all fun, I'll manage somehow.

Be safe...

LOBO

2nd Chance

08-27-09, 07:48

What the hell do I have big letters on my forehead that says Sugar Daddy.

More like "Stud Man". LOL.

I guess it's time for me to place a visit to Nogie. It's been awhile. I got pissed at the prices, too. Glad to see you're sticking to the $60 rule. I will be too. I rather leave empty handed and blue-balled, then to be a part of the rising prices down there.

As always, good report.

Prok917

08-27-09, 08:41

Well I have 2 reports to share. First time in Mexico, and also my first time mongering.

Last Thursday me and a few buddies crossed the border and went straight to Obsessions. We had never been their before, or read up on the forums so we really had no idea where we were going. We pretty much just followed the hawker when we came in. Didn't mind having him show us around, since we learned the area pretty well, and he got his commission at the club. There were a couple pretty good looking girls there, nothing crazy. I had a private dance for the $20, and wanted a BJ. They tried to "hook me up" with a price of $120 which I immediately turned down. I got it down to $60 which I still felt was too much, but oh well it was my first time, and honestly it was a great BJ, and even involved some fucking too so I can't really complain. The girl was great.

Today (Wed), we decided to try some new places, and it was a bad experience. Thankfully, before we went I found the site and read many of Lobo's posts as well as others. We went to Club 69. They had a few good looking girls, we didn't expect much considering it was a Wednesday and all. Now heres where it went sour, the pricing in there was ridiculous. $180 for FS, yea OKAY. I tried to bargain it down to 60 but $120 was the cheapest they were willing to go. We all ended up leaving after a few of us had failed attempts at getting reasonable prices. And most of us are native spanish speakers, so there definitely was no problems communicating. We went to a small dingy spot around the corner, have no idea what the name was but they had terrible quality of girls and it was super tiny in there. At this point we decided to head back to Obsessions, since we had a good time their last week.

The quality of the girls was not the same as Thursday, but there was still 1 good looking girl in there which my friend got a BJ from, once again at $60. Which I still find high and especially considering to the prices you guys talk about, but compared to Club69 which wanted $120 for a BJ that is a steal LOL.

So, me and my friends will be in Nogales, AZ area until the end of September, and plan on visiting Nog, MX on a weekly basis. We are going back this Saturday 8/29, and I'm hoping for some advice from you guys. What can we reasonably expect to pay for FS in Obsessions? If the cheapest we are getting for BJ's is $60, then what is reasonable for FS?

Also as a sidenote, later on next week I plan on visiting Eros for a massage. Can anyone point out exactly where this is or what its next to as I did not see it when we were walking around today. $40 for the massage and then how much more for FS $70? What is reasonable to pay for everything?

Thanks in advance, I know its a long post but I'm just trying to educate myself so I don't waste anymore money overpaying LOL.

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Lobo 003

08-27-09, 23:10

So, me and my friends will be in Nogales, AZ area until the end of September, and plan on visiting Nog, MX on a weekly basis. We are going back this Saturday 8/29, and I'm hoping for some advice from you guys. What can we reasonably expect to pay for FS in Obsessions? If the cheapest we are getting for BJ's is $60, then what is reasonable for FS?

Also as a sidenote, later on next week I plan on visiting Eros for a massage. Can anyone point out exactly where this is or what its next to as I did not see it when we were walking around today. $40 for the massage and then how much more for FS $70? What is reasonable to pay for everything?

Thanks in advance, I know its a long post but I'm just trying to educate myself so I don't waste anymore money overpaying LOL.

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Welcome Prok917, I see you found both sites

Obssessions full service average price $150 US my cheapest $100

Eros is located on a corner on calle Elias same street as Boleiro and Potros Cantina same owner as Lust same attitude expect $140 for 40 minutes full service in a high bed and dark room. $40 for massage and $100 for full service very hard to negotiate for less, I've been in there twice in 10 years, not my greatest recommendation. One guy paid $400 for one of his girls Gulp!!!

You want a massage parlor try the one on Avenida Obregon next to Hotel Olivia I believe it's called Sexxus, Isis, Osiris they close around 7-8 pm I can never remember the name correctly. They are good friends of mine and have better prices, attitude and they are willing to work with you. Quality of girls are hit and miss, they do have some new talent that I meant to check on saturday.

If you had more posts I would probably set you up with a contact number and make your dreams come true.

Be safe...

LOBO

Vaquero

08-28-09, 07:39

I haven't been to Nogales to hobby in recent years, but do you think it's just the tourists driving up the prices, or could it also be rich narcotraficantes?

Lobo 003

08-28-09, 11:46

I haven't been to Nogales to hobby in recent years, but do you think it's just the tourists driving up the prices, or could it also be rich narcotraficantes?

Tourist by themselves don't drive prices up their presence encourages the clubs to raise prices as it is happening right now. The more tourist traffic equates to higher prices. As I have mentioned in previous post when I talk about prices comming down, that's when you have a decline in the number of tourists.

The narcotraficantes absolutely have an impact and they will spend a super shit load of money in the clubs. They are not there all the time but when they do come, whatever club they choose will prosper signifacantly. An example of this, about a year ago before the border drug wars the narcos came in with their big SUVs shut Calle Elias down went into Boleiros paid the manager to close the club for the rest of the night and to remove all the customers so they can have at it and party with all the girls. They had bodyguards stand outside with machine guns with orders to shoot to kill anyone trying to get in. Where were the cops they were paid off and some were partying with the narcos. I'm sure they made a tremendously obscene profit that night.

Another example in an un named club the narcos came rented a VIP room for the night and had 6 to 7 girls drink and party with them. The room is $100 per hour without the cost of drinks or girls. Same thing in Studio 69 except they charge $200 per hour for VIP.

One more example a fucking narco disallowed me the priviledge of seeing a girl that I was chasing. He was paying her $2000 US a week to be with him, she stopped working, but I would find her in the dance clubs with him. I got my info a little at a time.

Overall narcos do have an impact but we as tourist have a greater impact because we frequent the clubs more regularly than the narcos. That is why I'm trying to implement my $60 RULE. If we banded together we would have a better chance of controling prices instead of it being dictated to us.

It works for me.

Be safe...

LOBO

Lobo 003

09-15-09, 03:36

The $60 RULE..."ROCKS'

I was in Nogi on Saturday and it sure is nice to be me, walking down the streets people I know honk at me and wave as they go by, girls that I haven't seen in a few years start flirting with me, everybody knows me, what a fantastic feeling. Its good to be LOBO, I probably should buy a house and live there except that I'm not to crazy about living in Nogi, but I do love the people.

Ok now the update, I got 2 girls that night one for myself and another for my friend at $60 bucks a pop for an hour of service which included everything. I could have had more girls that night because they were everywhere I was just to consumed with the fiesta.

I was hounded and followed by all the hustlers that night, I had my very own armada of girl hustlers following me around. I spent most of the night hidding and ducking from them.

Fiesta Patrias, Mexicos Independance day are in full swing and I encourage everyone to go and enjoy the festivities. All of Calle Elias where Boleiro and Lust are located are filled with live music, good food, carnival rides beer, mixed drinks and of course lots of super hot chicas. The Party runs for 10 days, next sunday is the last day. Wednesday is their independance day and will probably have fireworks displays all night. I spent most of my time outside at the fiesta and if it wasn't for the rain I probably would not have gone inside the clubs. Plenty of cops on guard duty for those who are to afraid to go. I still can't get used to cops walking around with machine guns.

Everything is safe and calm for all you worry warts.

Bring your passports you can still pass with a birth certificate but they will pull you over to secondary and make you wait untill they verify your citizenship, who knows how long that will take.

Be safe...

LOBO

Super Gato

09-15-09, 23:05

I was in Tucson passing through between San Diego and Texas and read the Lobo reports on this section. Because I had paid for the room in Tucson already and it as already 10pm when I decided to drive down to Nogales and I didn't know my way around, I thought I'd just go to Obsession for a drink or two and a few privados from some senoritas. I heard the music coming from the party when I parked my car and was going to check it out later.

Because of the reports here and elsewhere I expected it to be more expensive than I'd come to know and love in Tijuana, but the drink and chica prices are in the same ballpark as the bars like Lipstick in Reynosa and Danash in Nuevo Laredo. I sorta expected Obsession to be similar to these bars but Obsession was a little more second rate cantina with stripper pole comparatively. When I got there they sat me down at a table opposite the main stage. A mesero immediately brought over a girl who didn't really do much for me. A manager-like guy sidled up next to me and asked what kind of girl I'd like. I pointed to a short, stacked hottie sitting on some local guys lap and asked if she had a twin. He said no but thought I'd like this other girl he brought over.

I liked her. I can't remember her name but she was from Obregon. She had a gorgeous face and pretty eyes. Nice hot body. The boobs were fake but her doctor was an artist. I bought her a drink and was enjoying myself when the guy came back and said I could take her in private for $22 or sexo for an hour for $200. I told him that was expensive and he said I could ask her if she would come down on her rate. I said I'd think about it and returned to the chica. We get another round of drinks and she starts giving me a hot table dance and she's nibbling on my earlobes and whispering to me about how we should go to her room. I keep saying posible, posible and getting weaker and weaker. Long story short, five minutes later I'm in the cuarto and paid the guy the msrp. My plans of just a privado or two and then back to Tucson were out the window.

She gave a great session and I made her work the whole hour. It was great and it took lots of perseverance not to pop too soon and enjoy the ride. By the time I did pop she was glistening in sweat and breathing hard (like I usually am) and embarassed about the sudoración but I told her it was sexy.

Yes, it was expensive and far more than Lobo's $60 rule. I'm used to the expensive bar girls in Nuevo Laredo and Reynosa. Perhaps I should have haggled and gotten a discount. But I tend to get $100-120 girls in NL for 30 minutes or the $150 Reynosa girl in 40 minutes, so on a per minute basis I was doing OK. And like I said, her enthusiasm and drop dead sexiness really made it seem worth it. I can't afford to do that often, but it definitely did make the trip through AZ worthwhile.

If I didn't have a long drive ahead of me in the morning I would have gone and checked out the party and maybe another club before I left. I didn't have my phone or watch but was surprised it was almost 3am when I got to my car. I was surprised just how dead I19 was between the border and Tucson. I didn't see any cars until I saw a sheriff in a median just before the CPB inspection stop (which was closed?). The next car I saw was a photo radar unit a few miles up the road.

Precocious One

09-16-09, 16:09

Prok917

09-21-09, 22:37

Well I made it back a few times since I last posted here. Definitely started to follow Lobo's advice and it paid off. After getting tired of paying outrageous prices in the clubs, I started to meet some of the streetwalkers hanging out in front of Bolleiros right by the clocktower. The first one I had was named Sofia. We used the hotel right behind boreillos and is definitely affordable at $15 us for the hour. I went back this past weekend with the intentions of meeting up with her sister who is even hotter, but she was not available. We have always been meeting up with this guy named MarcHello, whenever we come over and he escorts us around and hooks us up with what we need. We don't mind paying him a few bucks to just hook us up and call girls for us and whatnot. So when he told me her sister was not available, he helped us find these 3 other girls that were hanging around the bar across from Leo's restaurant. I ended up getting this 18 year old brunette girl who was beautiful with a great body. Both of these encounters were for Lobo's recommended price of $60. Way better deal than the td bars, plus you actually get privacy in a room. Thanks lobo for showing me the way LOL. My only regret was not getting the 18 year old's name or number to meet up with her again this weekend, as I was a VERY satisfied customer and would have loved to see her again as it will be my last weekend here in AZ until possibly next summer. I would have definitely gotten a TLN with her!

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Az Salesman

09-23-09, 02:58

Got into RP late on Monday night but wasn’t ready to settle down so I headed over to Guau Guau. There was only 6 girls working, all were in the 6 – 8 range, which I won’t complain about for a Monday night.

Private dances were $20 for two songs, better than the $26 bucks for ¾ of a song that was the going rate back in the day when RP clubs used to be busy. With few other customers for most of 3.5 hours I was there, I became a personal friend with the guy who sells the private dances. Don’t remember his name so I’ll call him Jr.

My first dance was with Angela from Guadalajara – a sexy little light skinned Latina. Said she was 19 and I believe it – totally in the spirit of a Barely Legal video, naughty schoolgirl outfit and all. She played the pouty bit*h, which she did it pretty well. The dance was fine, but there was a clear message that it would take more than one dance to get to the good stuff so I decided to call it quits after the first dance. The chemistry just wasn't there for me.

Made a point to tip all the dancers on stage. I find this is the best way to get a feel for their personalities. Had the most fun with Carla, who has an exotic look to her. Slightly Asian eyes, full – big sexy lips, great tits, a flat tummy and a nice athletic ass. On stage, she was almost shy, but at the same time was fun to watch on the pole, doing a lot of anti-gravity tricks, and always laughing and joking with the other dancers who sat around the stage.

After her dance, she came out with this Egyptian push-up tit clip that covered only her nipples, and an almost non-existent g-string. WOW! Yes, she could sit down and talk. She spoke great English. I bought another dance ticket instead of the stupid $20 drink so that Jr. would leave us alone. Continuing to be ‘shy’, she sat down beside me instead of on me. I learned that her favorite sunscreen is something called ‘Ocean Potion’, but that she also likes to pour beer over herself and let it soak in while she tans. According to Yahoo, this doesn’t work, but it sounded good to me! Also learned that performing on the pole is her exercise because it gives her a full body workout.

Ok...time to use the dance ticket. She started out with the same shy personality and lots of teasing, just like Angela. I’m sure this is a well-used technique to sell more dances. The difference was, Carla’s laughing and playful personality worked for me better than Angela’s pouty routine. By the end of the second song, she was starting to get into it, with not so much laughing and more eyes-closed grinding. When Jr. came back and asked if I wanted one more, she immediately answered for me. Kinda aggressive, but for only another $20, I didn't complain.

The next two songs were all about her. She found her spot, her pace and grinded on me for minutes on end. Not to complain, but it got to the point where it was starting to hurt in more ways than one. It’s been awhile since I had a girl tremble and shake on my leg like that…it was awesome.

Jr. comes back again and asks if I want one more. Again, she says yes, but she’s facing me and she leans down and whispers “this one’s for you”. She talks to Jr. in Spanish and they get into a little squabble. Finally he leaves and she says “he will give us extra time for this one.” I say “that’s fine, but then you have to let me make an adjustment because I am really uncomfortable. She didn’t know what I meant so I undid the buttons on my shorts. She went back into the shy-girl routine - laughing and all embarrassed. I jokingly told her “this is not my fault, it’s your fault”.

I’ll just say the Carla totally took responsibility for this being ‘her fault’. For the next three songs, she was totally GFE. Not FS but totally fun and completely satisfying. Total damage for the night was $.3, including my drinks and I am a thoughtful tipper.

By the way, Jr. said it was $.1 bar fee plus $ - $.5 for the girl to take the girl out for the 1.5 hours. I was just asking and did not negotiate at that time. I’ll post an update if I find out more.

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Quick Love

09-24-09, 15:43

I think you posted this in the wrong location -your probably looking for the ROCKY POINT spot.

You might want to repost it there

Blews69

10-10-09, 19:33

Lobo 003

10-12-09, 02:07

Will be heading down to Noggie next week to play. I saw Lobo's post about a massage parlor next to the Olivia Hotel on Obregon. It looks like it closes pretty early 7 or 8 in the evening. I was wondering if it is walkable from the border and the prices in general. I've been to Eros a couple to times and lately they have really nice talent but it is way too expensive for Mexico. I also checked out La Conga back in July. That place has really turned into a dump. They had 2 girls. I took the fat Mayan chica for a ride. The room did not have a fan in July. The chick was sweating her butt off after FS. And she would not perform the massage as promised because it was so hot in the room. I'm going to stay away from La Conga. Too bad I've been going to this place off and on for more than 20 years. My first visit was when I was a horny GI back in the mid-80's.

Osiris massage is about a 2 block walk from the border very close and easy to get to. Prices for a massage range from $25 - $35 US for 40 minutes to an hour depending on the frequency of your visits and their business traffic for the day. Great guys extremely friendly, likable and very negotiable. They usually recruit girls outside of Nogales and the girls are normally not so jaded about prices as the local girls. Full service quotes that I have received from the girls range from $600 pesos to $1000 pesos which is about $45 US to $75 US. Finally about Osiris massage, if you don't like their tiny rooms and need more comfort and a bigger bed Hotel Olivia is right next door.

These guys are accustomed to my $60 RULE, try it you might be surprised.

Stay away from Eros massage they treat Americans as if their pockets are lined with gold.

Be safe...

LOBO

Blews69

10-13-09, 01:44

Lobo 003

10-13-09, 10:22

BLEWS69,

From what the owner has told me, is that they are open most of the daylight hours and close early evening 7 to 8 pm. Reason for this is they have better traffic during the day as opposed to the night.

They do outcall service as well and one of the guys speaks fairly good english, ask for Daniel.

They are good friends of mine and they will take good care of you.

LOBO

Blews69

10-18-09, 20:14

Thanks for the great information Lobo I never heard of this place before and I'll definitely pay them a visit and post a report once my mission is complete later this week. Do you happen to know the hours of Osiris and if not speaking Spanish will be a big problem?Thanks again for the information on Osiris Lobo. I arrived in Nogales, Arizona at around 6 p.m. and parked at the meters since I was planning a short visit. The Department of Homeland Security is now eyeballing people going into Mexico and has set up some sort of orange plastic barriers. I crossed with no incidents and managed to find Osiris with the great directions. I walked into the spa and massage parlor and there were two girls sitting on the couch with no male manager to be found. There was Valerie a young shapely chica in her 20’s and a chunky woman about the same age with very large breasts. They said the cost to go to the room was $40 for an hour. I picked Valerie and off we went. Valerie was very pretty with a great body I’d give her a 9. Negotiated FS she said $ 80 I said $60 and then she pouted so I agreed to the larger amount. Sorry Lobo I tried to stick to the $60 rule but I was thinking with the wrong head again. Valerie was very enthusiastic and she provided a girl friend experience. Lots of kissing and staring into my eyes which was a nice touch. She rode me cowgirl style till I popped. The massage after the experience could have used a lot of work. Headed back to the border and there was a long line to get back across. Looks like the Department of Homeland Security has installed a metal turnstile type entryway and they only allow a certain number of people into the inspection area at a time. All told I spent $120 and would go back for another massage.

Semianon

10-21-09, 10:18

Just got back from a Nogales trip, and I have to say it is the first trip I have actually regretted making.

I got into Nogales just after 6:00 PM on Tuesday evening and got a room at the Hotel California (behind Boleiros). My second time there, and it is a decent place for the price ($30). I relaxed for a bit, then headed out to find some company. I walked past several overly aggressive touts until I found one (said his name was Armando) who was was not too aggressive and spoke reasonable English. I told him I wanted a girl to take back to my room, and he said he could hook me up for $50 for an hour, provided I was willing to buy him a beer at a little bar (Patron Bar or something like that. Between Boleiros and the Eros Spa) while we waited for the girl to show up (it was about 7:45 PM, and he said he knew several girls that usually get there about 8:00).

I figured what the hell, and bought beers for both of us. While we were waiting, he gave me this spiel about how he wanted me to trust him and work only with him, and to look for him any time I come to Nogales, etcetera (his spiel would have made me very nervous if I had even been considering letting him and/or the girl supply the room).

At 8:00 on the dot, a girl named Leslie walked in and he called her over. She was fairly attractive (I'd rate her about a 7), and seemed very pleasant (but spoke no English). She asked if she could use my shower before we started, and when I said OK, she quickly agreed to the $50 for an hour. Armando then asked for a tip, and I gave him a $10 (smallest I had after buying the beers).

Leslie and I then went to my room. She took a 10 minute shower, then came out naked and ready to play. Or so I thought. She asked for the money before we started, and I agreed since she was standing there naked. I then stripped myself, and she started to give me a BBJ. After about 3 minutes, she got up and put a condom on me, then lay on her back with her ass on the edge of the bed and indicated she wanted me to stand and fuck her. Any time I attempted to do anything more (such as touch her breasts), she tensed up and went completely still. This lasted about 5 minutes, after which she started saying I was too big for her (I can only assume she was referring to my waistline, as that is the only part of me that is not within the average size range). She refused to do anything more, including returning any of my money since I didn't get the full hour. She finally agreed to let me watch her play with herself for a few minutes while I handled myself (it was the only way I could think of to try and get at least some of my money's worth).

All told, she was in my room for about 30 minutes, and that includes the time she spent in the shower.

Unfortunately, I only had another $40 with me (didn't bring more, as it would have only tempted me to break the $60 rule), so I could not afford another girl.

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Lobo 003

10-26-09, 07:18

When a girl wants to fuck you over she will do it. From the worst to the best there's always a time when we get shafted. It's just a sad fact of the game.

Here are some helpful Tips:

..................................Finding a Flayero:...........................................

1. Always be leary of the people you meet and Never trust anyone new.
They are quick to befriend you and even quicker to rip you off.

2. Find a " Flayero" (official name for street hustlers, touts,) that you can
half ways trust.

3. Build a friendship with your Flayero, the better he knows you the better
he will treat you and not shaft you. If he is new to you be extremely
cautious with your transaction. Don't always use his service in the
beginning. Make him earn your respect and you will be a valued client.

4. Always use the same Flayeros you have used before. This builds
commraderie

5. Always look for familiar faces.

6. Test your Flayero, don't always accept the girl he brings you

7. Never show him your money

8. Always ask how much for services.

9. Always counter first offer

10. Explain to him what you expect from the girl he brings you.

11. Tell him to explain to the girl what you expect out of her. This applies
to English speakers

12. Always make the deal before you go to the hotel

13. Ask who pays his tip you or the girl. Normally the girl pays his tip but
some want it comming and going, so be clear. If he wants a tip from you
also $5 US to $10 US is normal.

14. Never hand him payment for the girls service and if you tip him do so
after your had your fun.

15. Be cool and don't act like a giddy virgin going to pop his cherry for the
very first time.

16. Have fun

....................................Dealing with girls directly:...............................

Most girls don't speak english and therefore you will have to rely on your Flayero or a translator.

1. Ask how much for service, in the TD club it's called "cuanto por
paquete" (How much for the package deal). Outside the clubs
ask "cuanto por cojer' (how much to fuck) or simply "cuanto" ( how
much) English speakers when dealing just say SEXO. These tips are
primarily for independant girls which also includes club girls, but not in
the club.

2. Always counter her first offer, just don't be cheap (Codo in spanish),
after all she is worth something

3. Negotiate untill you both reach an agreement. If you go to your hotel
room blind without a firm price set you might be in for a rude awakening.
I've tried it this way to see what would happen and they fucking
shocked me what they wanted but I managed to BS my way down to
a cheaper price. Some americans can get away with this because of the
language barrier, be nice and hand them some reasonable money, how
can they argue they don't speak english just be fair guys.

4. Can't reach an agreement, cut her loose and part ways. Find someone
else.

5. Ask what services she will perform, most do everthing but some have
their limits and dislikes. So if you need something specific Ask.

6. Ask how much time do you get, if you need a specific time frame ask.
In my case I always ask for 1 1/2 hours that way I get 2 hours. They
loose track of time at 1 1/2 hours, their minds are programed for 1 hour.

7. Discuss hotel arrangements, make sure they know where to meet

8. Expect them to be late, most don't show up untill 30 or so minutes later,
don't wait after that, find someone else. However, you always be on
time. If she does show up on time they will only wait 2 to 3 minutes
and then leave.

9. Don't pay them up front, if they want it up front send them away and
find someone else. Always pay at the end of the session this
way it keeps them honest and you satisfied. Most girls will stay once in
the room.

10. Be in control of the hotel action, the more submissive you make her the
better time you have. In mexico the girls are used to the guy being
macho so be a man, but be polite.

11. Treat the girls with respect and kindness and they will do likewise

12. Do the deed and have fun.

On a side note if you like BBBJs or bareback my experience shows me not to ask for it. When your naked and prepared to do the deed you can ask for it then and she might oblidge. If you absoluetly need it that way you will have a very hard time finding it. My batting average for BBBJs is 8 out of 10 girls and bareback 6 out of 10 girls. I never ask for BBBJs but I do ask for bareback after my BJ. Anal is for the most part taboo, of course some will do it.

I hope these TIPs can be helpful in your search for adult recreation

Be safe...

LOBO

Lobo 003

11-01-09, 21:51

I translated these Mexican phrases for a post in Mexicali and thought the Nogales board could benefit.

Hola...Hi
Como estas...How are you
Te ves bien...You look nice
Hablas ingles (pronouced Ablas) do you speak english
Hablo un poco de espanol (pronounced Ablo...espaniol) I speak little spanish
Hablame despasio ( Ablame)...can you speak very slowly
Quieres cojer...would you like to have sex.
Cuanto...how much
Por cuanto tiempo...for how much time
Tienes novio...Do you have a boy friend
Vamonos al hotel...Let's go to my hotel now
Quieres ir conmigo...Do you want to go with me?
Puedes venir conmigo a mi cuarto en el hotel..can you come with me to my hotel room.
Puedo ver tu senos (chichis, tatas, tetas)...can i see your tits
Hablame eroticamente ( Ablame)...can you talk dirty while doing
Chupas sin condon...do you give Bj without condom
Puedo acabar en tu boca...can i finish in your mouth
Te tragas mi lechita...do you swallow
Cuanto mas para tomar (comer) mi lechita...how much extra to swallow
Chupame la verga (pene)...suck my dick
Tomatelo todo...deep throat it
Escupe en mi pene (verga)...spit on my dick
Chupalo despasio...suck it slowly
Me agrada...That feels good
Tocame...Touch me
Desnudate( also encuerate)...Can you get naked
Desnudate para mi...Get naked for me
Mete tu dedo en mi culo...I want your finger in my butthole
Tienes condon...Do you have a condom
Que rico tu chupada...I like how you suck/lick me
Mamame mis huevos...suck my balls
Quiero mamar tu chichis (senos tatas ,tetas)...I want to suck your titties
Tragate mi lechita..I want you to swallow my ***.
Te gusta por atras (de perito)...Do you like it from behind
Te gusta en el culo (anal)...Do you like it up the ***
Quieres tener sexo...Do you want to have sex
Lamame el culo...lick my ass
Lamame mi tetillas...lick my nipples
Masturbame con las manos...can you give me a hand job
Besame...Kiss me
Cojeme...fuck me
Cojeme despasio...fuck me slowly
Alto, no quiero acabar tan pronto...stop, i don't want to cum so soon
Con cuantos chicos as cojido (as tenido sexo)...how many guys have you fucked
Hazes el examen por el sida (Aazes)...do you take aids test
Que te gusta que te agan sexualmente...what do you like to do (sexually)
Te quedas todo la noche conmigo...can you spend the night with me
Banate commigo (pronounced Baniate)...take a bath with me
A que hora de gusta ir al amaneser (en la manana)...what time in the morning would you like to leave

At Hotel:

Puedo traer chicas...can i bring girls
Hay chicas aqui ( Hay is pronounced Iee)...do you have girls here
Cuanto por un cuarto...how much for a room

Some of the H's are silent and some N's have a line over them and are pronounced different. I hope this helps some.

LOBO

Rodeo9112

11-01-09, 21:59

Lobo 003

11-02-09, 08:20

Greetings fellow deviants! Well, my job has finally sent me for work at a location in the US again; usually I'm down in S. America. I've mongered in Rio, Medellin, Bogota, Dominican Republic and Panama (as well as Amsterdam and Tokyo). In my younger days, about 10yrs ago, I mongered in Tijuana and Acuna; once each. Both showed promise, but my inexperience didn't allow me to take full advantage.

So, inpreparing for my trip to Tucson, I pulled out a map and looked for the closest border town. Bringing me to your sleepy town of Nogales. In doing my research here, I am encouraged that it is at least worth a visit.

Seems that Obsessions and Bolerio are must sees, but I have a few preguntas.

- I'm going on Tues night, what time should I expect the highest number of chicas to be available?

- What is a good restaurant to burn time till things get hopping?

- Pesos vs Dollars. Does it matter? Is ther a 24 hr place to change money if necessary?

- Any directions needed to get to the area with all the bars and clubs after crossing the border? I'm sure the touts will help but I like to avoid them.

- What time does everything shut down at night?

- Can I get the name of a good "by the hour" hotel with a/c if end up with a street girl?

- Any touts I should definitely avoid? Ripoffs, annoying, not knowledgable.

- It seems like $10 is the going rate for tout assistance. Is that right?

I apologize if these topics are covered already, but I'm still researching and just found out about the trip 2 days ago. Thanks for the good reports and in advance for your assistance!

Rodeo

Welcome to Nogales the land of dubauchery.

Obsessions and Bolerio are at the moment the better clubs.

Tues night, what time should I expect the highest number of chicas to be available?

After 9pm and Tuesday are 2 for one drinks

-What is a good restaurant to burn time till things get hopping?

La Roca cateres to americans but away from the street sceen, There are 2 restaurants on opposite ends of the corner on Avenida Obregon one block in from the border, my favaorite is the one with the open air dinning area the other I believe is Rosas. Hotel Regis same street as Obsessions great shrimp cocktails relaxed atmosphere.

-Pesos vs Dollars. Does it matter? Is there a 24 hr place to change money if necessary?

Does it matter yes and no to a spanish speaker probably not to an American absolutely. If you use pesos you can net a savings, but when buying a drink what's a few cents difference. Negotiate chicas in pesos then you can pay in dollars.
They are accustomed in dealing with dollars so if you feel more comfortable using dollars use them.
No 24 hour exchange place but there is a 24 hour pharmacy and they have exchanged money in the past.

- Any directions needed to get to the area with all the bars and clubs after crossing the border? I'm sure the touts will help but I like to avoid them.

Obssessions is one block to your right as you cross the border, all the other clubs are to your left opposite obssessions and across the train tracks, 2 blocks walking distance. Everything you need should be within a 3 block radius to the International border.

- What time does everything shut down at night?
3am

- Can I get the name of a good "by the hour" hotel with a/c if end up with a street girl?

Hotel California rents by the hour and girl friendly, about $15 to $20 US depending on the exchange rate.

- Any touts I should definitely avoid? Ripoffs, annoying, not knowledgable.

Most, seriously no joke, Stay away from the young teenage looking guys, look for older late 20s to early 30s thay are usually more reliable. I won't name any hustlers names only for their protection.
Avoiding them, good luck they are going to follow you like puppies. Give them a $1 once you reach your destination and they will go away.

- It seems like $10 is the going rate for tout assistance. Is that right?

If you want to be generous, normally 1 to 5 bucks. if he treated you well and escorted you all night then $10 is fine. Just don't spoil them. If he gets you a girl the girl pays his commission and your not obligated to pay him nothing, however, it's your call in the end.

LOBO

Semianon

11-02-09, 10:04

Lobo 003

11-09-09, 03:41

I needed to do some shopping in Mexico so I went to Nogi for a quick turn around I couldn't linger around to much because I had a date in the US.

Horrible conditions down there It was a saturday and it looked like a monday it was so quiet I could hear the crickets chirp. The streets are all torn up for different construction jobs, everybody complaning about the economic conditions no money for no one.

The only positive thing about saturday was that everbody has missed me, some thought I had moved away or that something had happened to me. That sure is a fantastic feeling when people actually mis my company. I think I will go down there in a matter of days and spread some wealth around buy them some drinks and put a smile on their faces again.

Price updates:
I was actually offered a street girl for, are you ready for this $200 pesos that's about $15 US if I didn't have a date that evening I might have taken advantage of the situation and tried to find more.

I joked about $15 US girls in Mexico on another forum and never imagined it could ever come true. I will investigate this further for the benefit of my readers. I have a female friend that I am currently seeing and I don't know if or when I might stray.

First I have to say that all the club girls were hounding me for some private action which I turned down.
Quality of girls was very poor across the board.
Obssessions I did not get any prices
Boleiro I was offered girls for $160 FS
Lust $105 FS
Studio 69 I did not visit

Privados and drink prices are the same. Stay away from a really cute slim spinner girl from Obregon in Boleiro she provides lousy privados you can't touch her, she won't take her top off, After a few minutes of banging my head against the wall I told her to get the fuck away from me this is a fucking lousy dance and told her this dance is over so I cut the dance short. She wanted extra tips for everything, that B*TCH. If I want American style dances I would buy them in the US not Mexico.

Don't buy club girls beer they will charge you a double ficha, $20 US for one fucking beer this happened to me in Boleiros.

Be safe...

LOBO

Quick Love

11-09-09, 14:35

Chica Luv

12-22-09, 04:27

I'm temporarily in WA. But I was AZ. For awhile.

I kind of met you one time lobo. I think it was boleros with I think her name was veronica or something like that. And you had pictures of her that you handed to her.

Well when I come back to AZ. I can't wait to have some more fun in NOGIE.You can have AP, Mexicali and even Guadalajara. I like Nogales the best!

Clubs, Women, and some are really wanting extra money these days. The clubs in Nogie have two shifts; 11AM-8PM & 8PM-2AM. I like to visit all the girls during the early shift, and setting up dates for when they get off at 8PM. Once that date is over (and I have their phone numbers), usually 9-10PM, then I make the same rounds visiting the girls on the 8PM-2AM shift doing the same thing. Setting up dates for 2AM. I get all their phone number and start all over again the next morning. However, the next morning I start by having the early shift girls come by my hotel before they go to work from 11AM-8PM. Same with the PM shift girls. If you work it right you can have 4-6 different girls a day.

If that isn't enough, there is the after hours club where all the party girls go after they get off work at 2AM. Be careful there as many of the local Mexican guys are drunk and sometimes get a little aggressive with gringos.

NO, I didn't discover all this on my own. I had a master teacher. El LOBO. He is the man when it comes to working the streets and the girls in Nogales.

ChicaLuv

Lobo 003

12-24-09, 08:16

Just a heads up for would be travelers to Nogales Sonora, the drug cartels have been at it all month long. Plenty of killings amongst themselves with many innocent locals injured and it looks like it will spill into the beginning of the new year.

Be careful, it's a good thing it's the slow season, many of the girls will be visiting families throught the end of next month.

It's been like a ghost town down there recently. There's still club action at their usual highly inflated prices.

If you're looking for variety and street action start looking at February 2010

Happy Holidays

Be safe...

LOBO

LoveLOS

01-07-10, 09:29

Just got back from a Nogales trip, and I have to say it is the first trip I have actually regretted making.I have had the same exact experience three years ago. You get that a whole lot more with street/bar girls. Take Lobo's advice and cut her loose before you pay if she wants money up front.

They obviously know the dancers are getting twice what they do. Jealousy expected, but for whatever reason (ugly, drugs, boyfriend etc) they can't dance so they can't get the big bucks... Happened enough to me I often shy away from the street. I look forward to hanging with the likes of Lobo and Ed; who seem to seek the thrill as much as the puss. Good people.

The phone book is invaluable. Mine is probably out of date, and I have many of these numbers, but am missing most of them. Can anybody help me re-locate (don't necessarily need numbers,clubs will do - PM is good):
Ieuki or Shiela (www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36815), Lorania (www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=64599), Babydoll (www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36893), Citlaly (www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36961), Yuki (www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36887), Brenda (www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=36549), Karla (www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27593), Alondra (www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127707), Melody (www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27594) or Gracia (www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=26051)

I tried to use the least obscene pics since some of these girls are probably no longer working. Sara has stopped working, so we will do lunch. Who knows, I love being the exception to a rule...

Lobo 003

01-07-10, 13:47

The phone book is invaluable. Mine is probably out of date, and I have many of these numbers, but am missing most of them. Can anybody help me re-locate (don't necessarily need numbers,clubs will do - PM is good):

I tried to use the least obscene pics since some of these girls are probably no longer working. Sara has stopped working, so we will do lunch. Who knows, I love being the exception to a rule...

Ieuki occasionally works Obssessions not around as often as before.
Shiela works Obsessions and Boleiro haven't seen her in 3 months. I tried to get her to work stateside but she's afraid.
Lorania Boleiro very rarely.
Babydoll not around anymore.
Citlaly always at Boleiro.
Yuki back in the game after a 2 year absence. Just recently broke up with my friend, working at Boleiro.
Brenda a regular at Boleiro
Karla ???
Alondra always, always, always at Boleiro.
Melody???
Gracia???
Sara has her own small business. I did see her before Christmas and regularly in Obsessions.

I hope this gives you a running start...

LOBO

El Jimador

01-09-10, 03:38

as a frequent visitor to nogales and rocky point, i like going to the bars where the working girls hangout. the strip bars are fun but, the girls are typically much more expensive and high pressure. as i'm not a kid anymore, the relaxed atmosphere and older women are more my speed.

having said that, are there any bars in tucson that hookers hang out at? i can't down to mexico as much as i would like, so a local alternative would be great.

i am posting this question in the nogales forum because i figuered you guys would known the type of place i'm talking about. thanks for any info.

el jimador

Chica Luv

01-13-10, 00:21

Too comfirm what Lobo has already stated. Things are heating up with the drug wars. Again in Nogales.

I crossed into Nogales three days ago and the Customs agent told me to be careful that the Drug guys in Nogales had just killed 8 of their own.

I was heading on down to Guadalajara and not too worried, but still shit is happening. Several of my regular girl friends in Nogales are also telling me how bad it is the clubs too.

The Tucson listing on CL & BP are looking better all the time. However, here in GDL the street girls are going for 200MX and some of the club girls are goin for 500MX.

Ed...

01-23-10, 22:47

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Having said that, are there any bars in Tucson that hookers hang out at? I can't down to Mexico as much as I would like, so a local alternative would be great.------
El Jimador

The owner of the Tucson bar does NOT condone or have anything to do with hookers, if you ask you will be beaten and tossed out back, They'll call the cops and have you locked up for life. Repeat...DONT BE A DUMBASS...

(That's for all the dopes out there that might read this, not you grown ups that can play the game properly)

Go have a beer at 'Someplace Else' on Drachman, it's your best shot, absolutely no guarantees, and while the owner would love for us all to try it out he might punch me in the nose for posting this.

Ed...

El Fuego

01-25-10, 23:03

I'm very experienced with hobbying in Costa Rica, Asia, and Mexico. Having said that, I've never really liked Nogales because it hasn't been accommodating to my style of mongering. I pay the girls to STAY, not to go. I know, I'm retarded!

Regardless, what can some of you Nogy veterans tell me re my chances to hook up with a reasonably attractive girl for the night (~10PM to 7AM) in my hotel (likely Hotel California)? For example, I'd like the above mentioned time slot, one girl, todo la noche, for US$150 or less. Can this be done in today's Nogales economy?

Reading the comments below, I suspect the girls working in the strip clubs - even if I get phone numbers from the 11-8 shift - are going to balk at the amount of $$. However, it sounds like the street girls likely won't be very attractive, though they might go for the $$.

I have game, and yes I realize it isn't needed for picking up pros, but I've found it DOES help for negotiating the 'deal' - length of time, $$, etc. Girls seem more willing to hang out longer with an attractive gringo for slightly less $$.

Interested in any advice you have to offer. I sure wish there was a Blue Marlin Bar closer to AZ than Costa Rica!

Semianon

01-27-10, 08:11

I'm very experienced with hobbying in Costa Rica, Asia, and Mexico. Having said that, I've never really liked Nogales because it hasn't been accommodating to my style of mongering. I pay the girls to STAY, not to go. I know, I'm retarded!

Regardless, what can some of you Nogy veterans tell me re my chances to hook up with a reasonably attractive girl for the night ( 10PM to 7AM) in my hotel (likely Hotel California)? For example, I'd like the above mentioned time slot, one girl, todo la noche, for US$150 or less. Can this be done in today's Nogales economy?

Reading the comments below, I suspect the girls working in the strip clubs. Even if I get phone numbers from the 11-8 shift. Are going to balk at the amount of $$. However, it sounds like the street girls likely won't be very attractive, though they might go for the $$.

I have game, and yes I realize it isn't needed for picking up pros, but I've found it DOES help for negotiating the 'deal'. Length of time, $$, etc. Girls seem more willing to hang out longer with an attractive gringo for slightly less $$.

Interested in any advice you have to offer. I sure wish there was a Blue Marlin Bar closer to AZ than Costa Rica!While I do not consider myself an expert, I do have some experience. I think it would take Michael Jordan levels of game to get "todo la noche" for US$150. I would say the average Joe might have a chance for US$300. Personally, I would take the US$150 and get two or three girls for an hour each.

Lobo 003

01-27-10, 20:18

Regardless, what can some of you Nogy veterans tell me re my chances to hook up with a reasonably attractive girl for the night (~10PM to 7AM) in my hotel (likely Hotel California)? For example, I'd like the above mentioned time slot, one girl, todo la noche, for US$150 or less. Can this be done in today's Nogales economy?

You have a very good chance of getting what you want. Read my past post to learn how to work Nogales. Your quote of $150 is very reasonable and can be found. Just remember that the girls are conditioned for one hour in Nogales so you will have to convince them to stay longer. Make them see the light, I mean the green.
This is a few of months old but the girls were offering $200 US toda la noche.
My best rate for toda la noche is $110 US.
Since you say you have game then I don't think you will have a problem just negotiate, negotiate, negotiate.

As an example here are some of the rates that I find.
$50-$60 US one to two hours FS
$100 US one to three hours FS
$110-$200 US toda la noche FS

I hope this helps.

Be safe...

LOBO

Semianon

01-28-10, 07:40

You have a very good chance of getting what you want. Read my past post to learn how to work Nogales. Your quote of $150 is very reasonable and can be found. Just remember that the girls are conditioned for one hour in Nogales so you will have to convince them to stay longer. Make them see the light, I mean the green.
This is a few of months old but the girls were offering $200 US toda la noche.
My best rate for toda la noche is $110 US.
Since you say you have game then I don't think you will have a problem just negotiate, negotiate, negotiate.

As an example here are some of the rates that I find.
$50-$60 US one to two hours FS
$100 US one to three hours FS
$110-$200 US toda la noche FS

I hope this helps.

Be safe...

LOBOWow, Lobo. One of these days I am going to have to get together with you and learn some of your negotiating tricks. Grin

$50-$60 for an hour I can usually manage without too much difficulty, but the prices always start climbing when I try for longer. Girls who will take $50 for an hour always want at least $140 for two hours and will not even consider toda la noche for less than $300. Needless to say, I have never hired a girl for more than an hour (though I have been with a few who lost track of time and went well over that hour).

El Fuego

01-28-10, 23:27

$50-$60 for an hour I can usually manage without too much difficulty, but the prices always start climbing when I try for longer. Girls who will take $50 for an hour always want at least $140 for two hours and will not even consider toda la noche for less than $300.

I suspect it could be a challenge, as I'm not familiar with the current economy in Nogales. But, I've had relatively good luck with the average (NOT fat or ugly) chicas in this regard (TLN for less than $200) even when the economy was good. I suspect it's partly due to my appearance and attitude ('game'), and partly due to my negotiating skills. :^)

It's been my personal experience that the girls buy into my reasoning that they can have decent $$ for a night (~8 hours) of fun with me where they may even get an 'O' or two as well, or they can spend 2 or 3+ hours with possibly three different overweight and/or unattractive guys jumping up and down on them for an hour each (for slightly more $$). Not to mention time wasted waiting between guys, etc. It's the old 'bird in the hand beats two in the bush' metaphor. In this case, pun intended!

I'm hoping the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor economic conditions right now play into my favor, and I can convince a hot - rather than average - chica to go for my offer.

You have a very good chance of getting what you want. Read my past post to learn how to work Nogales. Your quote of $150 is very reasonable and can be found. Just remember that the girls are conditioned for one hour in Nogales so you will have to convince them to stay longer. Make them see the light, I mean the green.
This is a few of months old but the girls were offering $200 US toda la noche.
My best rate for toda la noche is $110 US.
Since you say you have game then I don't think you will have a problem just negotiate, negotiate, negotiate.

Thanks Lobo - appreciate your excellent info.

Chica Luv

03-05-10, 00:45

I usually try like to arrive NLT 3PM. This gives me time to get a hotel room at the Fray Marco and then make the club rounds prior to the early shift getting off at 7-8PM.

However, I arrived much too late and did not have time to make the rounds prior to the shift change. However, I did call ahead to one of the girls that I've seen several times in the past and set up an appointment.

She told me that she was working at Bolerios and to meet her there at 9PM. Now this sounded a little strange since the shift change usually happens about 8PM. Oh well, "OK, see you then. "

So, I crossed the board and headed to the hotel to check in. No sooner did enter the lobby, than I noticed an American guy and guess who standing with him? You guessed it. The very girl I had spoken with not more than an hour ago, that told me she was working a to meet her at 9PM. Of course we both gave each other smiles as I too tried to check in. All the while she kept holding up 9 fingers behind her back to indicate that we were still on for 9PM

I checked in and started making my rounds. After about 45 minutes I ran into a Mexican guy that Lobo had introduced me to several months ago. He was the guy that Lobo used frequently to search out and deliver available talent.

He offered to contact some of his ladies and arrange for them to meet us. Initially he asked if I would buy him minutes for his cell phone so he could call the ladies. I told him that I too had a mexican cell phone and that he could tell me the numbers and I would dial them.

We went into one of the local (non-strip clubs) and had a drink. He began scrolling down his phones list of names and numbers. As he called them out I would dial them. None of them answered, but I would then save the number and the girls name.

Finally, after calling several the 8th girl answered. I handed the phone over to Mr. MX and he arranged for the girl to meet us outside the bar. She arrived in a short 5 minutes.

She was one of the dancers that had been on the early shift and was still in the area. She stated that she wanted $100. 00 US for 30 minutes. Of course, having been a student of LOBO 101 economics, I said no. I countered with 800 pecos; she with $80. 00 US; I with "all I have is 800".

She started taking a long time to reply, and told Mr. MX that I was heading back to my hotel and if she every made up her mind to call me. Before I could walk 1/2 block her was chasing after me with her in tow stating that my offer of 800 was good.

Mr. MX escorted the lady and myself back to my motel, at which time he asked if I had a TIP for him. I gave him 50 pecos. He said thanks and left happy.

The girl and I continued on to my room. We started to get "confortable" when she asked for the money first. I said no, "after", she said no first. Well you get the idea. Finally, I counted out the 800, placed it in my jacket pocket, and stated AFTER! At this point she had the chose of agreeing or leaving. She agreed! I re-emphasised that our time together would for an HOUR, and made sure she agreed.

We had fun for about 40 minutes and she decided that she was tried and tried telling me that our time was up. Of course being a Honor Graduate of the LOBO school of International Stripper Relations, I quickly remindered her of our agreement. Additionally, I showed her my watch which has one of those rotating dials that I had set to show the time at which we started. Couple that with the fact that I still had all the money and she went back to work. She was a great little spinner with one of those young tights bodies.

Afterwards, I walked her back outside and we parted ways. However, all the while we were together in my motel, my cell phone (on mute) was getting return text messages (most of the girls down here use text instead of calling) from several of the previous girls that I had called.

I returned a few messages, and explained that I was friend of Mr MX and that I would see them at a later date/time.

I had a meeting on the US side in the AM and had to call it an early night. I arrived home at 3AM, got a couple hours of sleep and made my meeting this morning.

All in all, it was a great night. I ended up with 8 new names and numbers of girls that have a proven track record of providing the kind of services that I am interested in.

I still will us my plan of getting there early in the afternoon and scouting out the early-shift girls at the clubs. However, I will also use Mr. MX; his daily experience & contacts for additional talent.

Once again, I successfully called on all the training that I had received from LOBO.

Many thanks LOBO!

Happy Hunting

CL

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Chica Luv

03-11-10, 00:57

Just returned from Nogales (Monday 3/8- Wed 3/10).

I parked on the US side, walked acrossed and checked into my hotel. On my way down to Nogales I called one of the ladies that I had met (but not EXPERIENCED) during my last visit. She said she was available, and would meet me at my hotel at 7PM. She showed up at 7:25 and we had a great time together. Total GFE

After an hour or so, I told her I was a little hungry. She agreed and said she knew a great place to eat. So, we headed out and had some dinner. She is great gal and we had a good time.

Again, she was totally GFE, not at all like a pay-to-play experience. All the while, she never asked about money. At the end of our evening together I gave her 800 pecos. The dinner cost me another $18. I will see her again. Soon

After #1 left, I headed straight to the clubs. By this time it was about 11PM and too late to catch the early shift girls going home. So, I started meeting the second shift girls and trying to get numbers.

Again, I met another nice lady (#2) at Boleros. We talked for a long time and she gave me her number. She agreed to stop by my room after she got off from work.

With number in hand, I visited several other clubs. At each club I tried to meet one girl, start up some type of conversation and hopefully get their phone number.

I NEVER buy them a drink or private dances. I usually only buy one drink for myself while I am there and nurse it until my work at that club is done.

Well, at 2:45 AM I sent a text message to girl #2 to confirm that she was in fact still going to meet me a my room at 3AM. Sadly, she replied that she was not, but that she would meet me the next evening at 8PM.

So, I picked up one of the street girls (the nicest one I could find), paid her 250 pecos and 45 minutes later she left happy at 4AM.

Tuesday Had a late breakfast and started calling numbers. No luck, all the girl were probably still in bed or getting ready for work.

Not long after breakfast, the clubs opened and the girls started showing up. Of course, I was making the rounds and having my one drink at each. I met a couple new girls and got several numbers. I arranged to have two different girls from two different clubs show up at my hotel when the got off the early shift (8PM).

After doing the math, I realized that I now had three different girls (two from today and girl #2 from yesterday) scheduled to show up at 8PM. Now having been down this road before, I know that not all of them will show up as promised. So, I have an arrangement with the hotel door/elevator man (I always tip him when I leave). Once the first girl shows up and we take the elevator up to my room, no other girls are allowed in. So far so good.

At 8PM I get a text from one of todays girls (#3) and she is waiting for me in the hotel bar. I meet her there, ask if she'd like a drink and she says no let's go to your room. OK We get to the room and the fun begins.

She was totally GFE, and money was never mentioned. She loved to have FUN. Lots of kissing, biting, scratching, kicking, etc. She LOVES having SEX!

After an WHILE, she said she was thirsty. I offered to order something form the bar. Two beers and two shots of tequilla, knock-knock (room service) for $12 dollars US.

She stayed for three hours and wanted to stay the night. I told her that I had to leave early and need to get some sleep, but next time she could stay over.

Again, she never mentioned money. I gave her 1000 pecos (more than I usually pay) I the hopes of seeing her again soon.

The clubs are not doing the business like before, and many of the girls really need the money. Also, many of the girls take their one day off during the first part of the week and therefore have additional time available.

I got a good sleep and was across the border before noon (Wednesday).

Nogales is still fun, the clubs will still take your money, but it seems like many of the girls are willing make arrangements outside working hours.

CL

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TylerPerelli

03-11-10, 06:27

Chica Luv, great report. Agree with recommendation to move to reports of distinction. May do so if I remember how.

El Fuego

03-14-10, 19:07

Agreed, CL, great post.

Can you elaborate a little on the 'type' of girls you experienced? (Spinners, young, hot, average, older, etc.???)

Chica Luv

03-15-10, 09:57

Agreed, CL, great post.

Can you elaborate a little on the 'type' of girls you experienced? (Spinners, young, hot, average, older, etc.???)

El Fuego
You act like you've never been in Nogales. Have you ever been in Boleros or the other clubs in Nogales? If so, you know the types of girls that I found.... spinners, young & hot. I certainly wouldn't waste my time in the clubs looking for old, fat, ugly or average.
CL

El Fuego

03-16-10, 03:47

Chica Luv

03-18-10, 10:35

Thanks CL.
Yeah, I had an idea, but you know ... one never knows unless he asks. I've read fantastic, novel-length trip reports of incredible times that were had, only to be later disgusted by the photos posted at the end. To each his own, but I never like being left with the thought "He PAID for that?!".

It seems we are on the same page :^)

Thanks for your post. I'm making it a priority to visit Nogi again (haven't been in ages) in the next few weeks, ideally on a Monday or Tuesday night!

EL FUEGO
98% of the entertaining I do is with ladies either before they go to work or after their shift is over. Of course, that means that the club owners are not getting their commission on the girls. Like most business owner, they really don't like loosing money on their products and services, and are really hard on any of the girls they think are working outside the club. That is the main reason I don't post any photos, and the other being that I would hate to have any of these ladies discover that I posted their photo on a website.

For my time and money Mon Tue Wed are the only days to be in Nogales. No crowds, fewer drunks, and the girls are looking to make deals with the customers that are there. Additionally, many of the girls have their day off on Mon or Tue. Most are available & interested in making a quick 800 pesos for an hour on their day off.

That being said, I visited Nogales again this past Monday-Wednesday (3/15-3/17) and had a great time...again.

I was undecided early Monday as to whether or not I was going to Nogales for my weekly international goodwill exchange. Well, undecided until I got text messages from two of the ladies asking if I was coming to visit soon.

So I headed down, sending text messages to all girls listed in my Mexican Telcel telephone. In a matter of 45 minutes I received 6 responses confirming that they were available & interested.

Again, parked on the AZ side and began finalizing the LINE-UP. I confirmed #1 would meet me in the at 3PM, #2 @ 7PM & #3 @ 10PM, with the others waiting my reply.

Note to viewers: Scheduled does not mean that they will show up as planned.

After checking into the hotel, I contacted #1, and true to form she was going to be late. She finally showed up at 4:30 and by 6PM she was heading home. At this point I knew I wasn't going to be UP for #2 at 7PM, so I rescheduled #2 for 10PM and #3 for Tue at 3PM.

I started making my rounds to the clubs, waiting for 10PM. The Tour'd Club was good. I made several new contacts, got several new numbers and scheduled #4 for 3AM. Then at 9:30 I texted #2 to confirm, and sure enough she texted back that she couldn't make it until 9AM Tue. Of course, there was no way I was going to have #4 from 3-4AM and be ready for #2 at 9AM. So, she got cancelled altogether.

ENOUGH of this madness. You get the idea... this is how my time always goes throughout my visit in Nogales. Crazy but fun.

At the end of my 40 hour stay in Nogales I had spent time with #1 (a lady I had met the prior weekend) and two new ladies. I also had cancelled 4 different appointments that I had scheduled. Additionally, I moved 5 ladies to the active reserve list. The ARL is for ladies that are good, but not GREAT. They only get the call if all else fails.

Next week I will be back for another visit with the A Team and some continued scouting for new talent. There a lot of ladies there I have yet to interview, some I am just not that interested in and others just aren't that interested in me.

Additional info always available to senior members.
CL

El Fuego

03-18-10, 21:25

EL FUEGO
98% of the entertaining I do is with ladies either before they go to work or after their shift is over. Of course, that means that the club owners are not getting their commission on the girls. Like most business owner, they really don't like loosing money on their products and services, and are really hard on any of the girls they think are working outside the club. That is the main reason I don't post any photos, and the other being that I would hate to have any of these ladies discover that I posted their photo on a website.

Completely understood about not posting photos. I never have either, as it seems to be bad karma all around, and you never know if/when you might go back.

Thanks, CL. I always like reading a detail-oriented post.

Chica Luv

03-24-10, 07:03

Had to break my visitation rules this week and go down to Nogales a day early (Sunday instead of Monday). One of my favorite ladies was scheduled to take a week off and return to her home town.

The usual drill; sent texted messages to #1 (my favorite), and one other gal that I had been visiting & texting for several weeks (but never had finalized with an visit to my hotel room),

Both were available. I schedule the new girl for Sunday night and she arrived at my hotel around 6PM. We had a few drinks in the bar and took another round of cheer up to the room.

She was a lot of fun and we engaged in 1 hour +/- of mutual enjoyment. BBBJ, dfk, DATY, multiple positions. One climax for me and two for her. We laughed and joked about the 2-1 ratio. I told her that next time the one with the most orgasms had to pay.

During our discussions, we both realized that we had worked up a hunger for some real food. So, we both showered and headed out for a bite to eat. There is a nice little place across the street that has good food, beverages and some live music.

By the time dinner was over, it was after 11PM and time for us both to part company. She headed home and me to head out to the clubs. I had already paid her my usual 800 pesos for the time we sent together in my hotel room, and the food. Drinks & tip only came to $19. 00

I had to keep my usual club tour short, as I was scheduled to meet another Latina gal up in Tucson for a lunch date early Monday. Another story not related to this link.

I returned to Nogales Monday afternoon in time to make my 4PM appointment with #1. Again, this gal is GREAT! BBBJ, dfk, multiple positions. No DATY. NO DATY you might say. Well yes & no. Yes, that is available, but she is soooooo sensitive that DATY is almost painful for her. Even the most lightest licking or kiss puts her over the edge of enjoyment and into the realm of over stimulation.

On the plus side of that same equation, it makes for a sex partner that has NUMEROUS, FREQUENT, and MOMUMENTAL organism! The type of organism which includes (but isn't limited to) moaning, kicking, biting, scratching, screaming, muscle contractions and the part where she holds her breath & stops breathing.

We were together from 4-7PM, at which time she had to leave for work on the late shift at one of the clubs. Every time we are together, it seems to get better. Don't ask me how that can be, but it is.

Prior to her leaving, we agreed that she would come back after she got off from work at 3AM. She did, and we spent from 3AM-5AM together. After which she left to catch her bus home for her vacation, and I went to sleep.

However, between the time #1 left at 7PM and her return at 3AM, I visited all the clubs. I enjoy talking the girls and trying to get additional names & numbers. I didn't make any additional appointments, and was saving myself for the return of #1 at 3AM.

There is still lots of fun to be had in Nogales at a reasonable price. It just takes the investment of time.

Additional info always available for Senior members

Chica Luv

04-01-10, 01:21

I was in Nogales again this past week, Sunday night until Tuesday AM...about 36 hours. Again, it was lots of fun. I experienced a new girl on Sunday night 9-11PM, a B Team girl Mon 3-4AM, and then my #1 A Team girls Mon 5PM-Tue 8AM.

After our initial 3 hours session, my #1 surprised me when she announced that she decided that she didn't want to go into work and wanted to spend some time together. So, we went to the movies and then came back & had an 11PM dinner. We went back to my room for a quickie and she surprised me again when she announced that she want to spend the night. She woke me up this morning at 7AM for one more farewell Goodbye...she is really good at saying hello & goodbye. Of all the women I've know throughout the years, she is one of the best at meeting my manly desires and needs...at least for my liking.

Although I do enjoy my #1, I also like the variety of experiencing other gals and the details involved in managing all the moving parts.

ChicaLuv

Stripper Luv

04-17-10, 03:16

A planned quiet evening for two on Thursday night turned into an all-nighter at the clubs.

I am engaged to the most infamous of all the Nogie club girls. Most of you know her, many of you have f**ked her. Now that we're engaged, she is retiring from the business.

She invited me down to get together for what was to be an intimate evening for just the two of us. We met up at the border gate area at 7:30 and she said, "Let's go to Obsessions for one beer first." We got to Obsessions and it was like old home week. Everybody wanted to say hi to her and she was in her element as the diva of the place even though this is not the club she currently works in. All her friends have migrated to Obsessions so she wallowed in the spotlight. We were only going to be there for one beer. At 2 am, we finally left after a couple dozen beers. So much for the intimate evening with just the two of us.

During our Obsessions visit, a drug lord came in with his entourage and rented one of the VIP suites. These are the rooms overlooking the floor with the dark glass and total isolation. About 11:00 we got the other VIP suite for the rest of the evening at a bargain price since she was a friend of the manager and nobody else was asking for it. Of course we had all kinds of sex. While enjoying our suite, we watched the action on the floor right in front of our suite where one dancer was enthusiastically applying a handjob to a fat customer who had dropped his pants. The hj became a 40-minute blowjob. I kept rooting for the girl to finish him off. Other dancers came by and offered encouragement. Finally, he came. That girl was a martyr.

After we left Obsessions we went to Studio 69, a former employer of my girl. Apparently she was now on a farewell tour of the clubs she was no longer working at. We met up with some of her dancer friends at 69. At the 3 am closing, three of them drove my girl and me to an after hours club, Yard House. Don't ask me where it is. I was in the back seat getting a bj and wasn't paying attention. I noticed that there was no sign out front. It's one of those places that you have to know somebody to get in, I guess. But it is definitely not within walking distance of the Zona Norte clubs. Yard House is a typical club with a couple of pool tables, early rock n roll posters (I noticed Queen, Kiss, John Lennon) and couches and tables. We ordered drinks and I was challenged to a game of pool by one of the other girls. For the next couple of hours, our group took turns playing pool. When I wasn't playing, my girl and I made out. Other dancers from 69 and the other clubs filtered in. Many (actually nearly all) of them paired up with customers and left, including the ones that brought us there.

We finally left the club at 6:30 am, got back to my girl's house and fucked one more time before passing out.

We didn't hit all the clubs she has worked at. Some are long gone (Rio, Cherry's) and some are still around (Boleiros, Lord Black), but it was all I could do to keep up with her that night.

It was a good time. One advantage of being in the company of a Nogales sex industry legend is that you get lots of perks, meet the insiders, meet the babes, get free stuff and discounts, and still have lots of great sex. It is a view of the trade that few ever get.

Guidos

04-17-10, 23:48

Hey Gang,

Wondering if anyone knows of any Casa de Citas in Nogales?

Also, what massage parlors would be recommended?

Thank you!

Guidos

Chica Luv

04-22-10, 11:03

Had another great visit to Nogales.

Arrived Monday afternoon and checked into my hotel. I had already sent text messages to several girls that were having their day off from the clubs.

Mr. MX, the local Mexican guy that always has talent, saw me walking through the streets. Once this guy sees you he is all about finding you what you want.

Although I had several ladies in the Q, I like seeing the talent he has available. He had several ladies pass in review. Two of the four that came by were very nice. One of the two was WOW! This lady was probably one of the best looking gals I have ever seen in Nogales.

Too bad my dance card was already full. As I already had my #1 inbound, I told Mr. MX that I would have to contact him later. You never know when a lady will not show and you need a back up.

My #1 showed up, and we went straight to the room. This lady has long black hair, dark eyes, nice B cups and a great set of hips. Gives a great BBBJ, DATY, DFK. And loves to have sex.

Did I say that she LOVES to have sex! The vocals start as soon as you take one of her nipples into your mouth, and volume continues to rise through out the rest of the event.

I really don't know just how many orgasms she can have in a session. Bunches! Screaming, moaning, scratching, kicking, biting, stops breathing. Etc. It really doesn't matter what position you're in. She's on top, you're on top, RCG, DG. She love them all

One thing I've noticed is that when she in on top, riding hard, and gets carried away (which is always); she likes to grab your chest (hair, pec. Muscles and all) and dig her finger nails in. Of course this adds to the overall experience, but might not be good if you have someone at home that might notice.

After countless orgasms by her, both of us soaking wet, she insisted that I cum. After extended periods of time fending off the urge, it was time to bear down and finish the session. WOW!

Afterwards, we took a shower and turned down the sheets on the second bed in the room. We relaxed for a few minutes, turned the TV on and then ordered room service. That is one thing I like about staying in the Fray Marcos; you can order up food from the restaurant or drinks from the bar.

It was her day off, so after dinner we had round two and she announced that she wanted to spend the night. She had a plan long before she arrived, as she had brought along a pair of sexy PJ's to sleep in.

She is fun to sleep with, especially when she is still wanting to rub her great ass into your naked crouch while you are trying to sleep.

In the morning we awoke and again ordered up room service for breakfast. Of course after breakfast, we had another round of delight, and more showers were needed.

In the past, we have spent a day or two together, but I needed to head back to Arizona. She said that she was going to head home and get ready for the night shift at the club where she works.

During the past 2-3 months that I've seen her, she has never said a word about money; couple that with the fact that our time together is off the chart, and you can rest assured that I compensate her well.

My goal is to get what I want, spend 800 pesos per girl and to stay in a nice hotel. Sometimes I like to take a chance and try new ladies, and sometimes I like to only spend time with the proven ones.

I don't buy ladies drinks in the bars, or lap dances. Most of the girls I visit with are the ones that work in the clubs. When all else fails or I want something really new, I use Mr. MX as a talent resouce.

My goal is to not spend any more than 800 pesos for a dancers from the clubs, and less if the girl is off the street. SOMETIMES, I will pay 1000 pesos if the lady is really hot and/or has proven herself.

I find that Sun, Mon and Tue are usually the best days to get the best rates from the girls. However, you can get good rates on the weekends, but it might take a little more work/luck.

There are lots of ladies waiting to help you spend your money and have tons of fun doing it. If anyone is thinking of going down, and would like the phone number of Mr. MX, or the names & numbers of some of the club girls send me PM.

If you don't go, you won't know,

CL

Chica Luv

04-27-10, 18:40

Had business in Nogales AZ Monday afternoon & early evening, and decided to visit some FRIENDS in Nogales Sonora. First stop was to check into the hotel and establish a base of operations. Many of the ladies from the local clubs want to know what hotel & room you are in. I usually give the hotel but not the room number.

Made the rounds of the bars and started to arrange for some late night activity. I had made the rounds X2 and was now starting to visit some of the local bars...ie non-strip clubs. As always you encounter the girls that are working these clubs, on the street and many out of the lower priced hotels near the strip clubs. Often these ladies can be very attractive, but their presentation isn't as appealing as the dolled-up strip club girls.

Because I arrived in Nogales late (after 10PM), I wasn't going to be able to link up with any of my regulars until 3AM when they got off work. I was only going to stay overnight and didn't really want to spend that much time waiting. Just so happens that as I was crossing the street, a gal driving her Tahoe asked if I needed a date. She looks hot and I said sure. I got in the passenger side of her car and we drove off.

She asked what hotel I was staying in. I did not really want to take her back to my hotel, so I suggested we have a car date. A little strange, but I was ready for a change and thought it would be exciting. So, she found a dark place to park along the street and we hopped into the back seat.

I had already told her I wanted sex, so she began her price negotiations’ for FS. Her initial demand was for $100.00 US. I countered with $20. She went on to explain that she was SOOOOO much more than most of the usual street vendors, but she would settle for $80. I countered with $40, she with 60, and me with 40 again...until she settled for the 40.

She asked if I had a condom... I never go shopping unless I have them (lots of them) on hand. I fished the condom out of my pocket and placed it on the center console. As she reached for it, I told her that we wouldn't need it initially. She seemed a little confused until I explained to her that I wanted a BBBJ. After a mild objection, she went to work. WOW, this woman was born to give oral. Took the two brothers in her mouth and made them feel soooo wonderful. Next, she started in on the main event with the skill of a well seasoned woman.

All the while that she is giving me head, I am rubbing her naked ass, playing with her clit and fingering her hot wet mound. She was getting wetter and wetter, and starting to moan.... a lot!!! Her ass was starting to twitch and she is having a difficult time keeping up a good rhythm on the BBBJ. Of course, this is all the more exciting for me. All of a sudden she stops breathing, stops the BBBJ, starts shaking and lets out a loud scream of excitement.

By this time I too am on the edge, and just as she cums, so do I. WOW! Too much fun. I had planned on bending her over doggie style in the back seat of her car, but even the best of plans sometimes get changed.

We cleaned up, got dressed and she drove me the five blocks back to where she picked me up. It almost felt like I was a school boy again.

After all the new excitement was over, I decided to not stay the night, check out of my hotel, and drove home.

I didn't get her number and don't remember her name...vehicle type, face, ass, BJ...yes, name no. However, I will be looking of her the next time I visit and will probably take her to a hotel for a more extended session. What a great surprise and I look forward to seeing her again...soon.

Nogales is still fun and still can be very affordable.
CL

Quick8

04-28-10, 06:52

Chica Luv

04-28-10, 22:05

Hey guys, specially Chica Luv. Would like to know if I can have a tour with you when you tour next time. I can make it in two weeks, leave on Monday and come back on Tuesday. Let me know. Email will be sent to you if you provide an email. Thanks guys. Again. Just want to know how to do this. I live in Phoenix.

Quick8
I would like to say yes, "Come on down". However, I don't know who you are, and am not in the habit of having strangers as my guest anywhere, much less in a third world country where 'shit can happen' even when all else seems to be going well.

I did take another guy that I didn't know down a couple weeks ago. The main difference is that he (unlike you) had Lots of post on the boards. Why do I think that is necessary? Well, by reading his post I got a pretty good idea of his personality and whether or not he was the kind of guy I would want to drink a beer with... much less travel to a different country with.

For now, my humble suggestion would be that you:
1) Do some posting (either here or on the other board), so people will get to know you.
2) Read others' post on what to do and what not to do.
3) Especially search & read the post by LOBO 003. He is a great guy and really knows his stuff. He was the guy that took me under his wing and showed me the ropes in Nogales. He is still the MASTER of the Nogales chica scene.

Then after reading, posting (experiences and questions) and a few months ask the question again.

Also, if you want to communicate privately with board members try using the PM function, instead of asking someone for their person email address. You will have better luck getting a reply.

Good luck, have fun and BE SAFE!
CL

Papa Rotzi

04-29-10, 05:52

CL is spot on and his advice is exactly correct. As an FYI. I AM the other wingman that he was gracious enough to meet on the USA side and party like a rock star (Mariachi Band star?) in Noglales, MX. I am a Senior Member on the USASG board, and CL read all my posts before deciding that I am not an idiot (debatable) and would most likely not do something stupid that would land us both in Jail. We hit all the clubs and through his contacts we both managed to get laid 3X each day for around 800 pesos per lady (do the math. Cheap pu__y). You can easily do this trip on your own, but I will say that my learning curve was much quicker with CL there as my coach.

In fact, we are planning an encore appearance in a week or two, so the chicas better start taking their B vitamins and getting their sleep!

Quick8,

I would like to say yes, "Come on down". However, I don't know who you are, and am not in the habit of having strangers as my guest anywhere, much less in a third world country where 'shit can happen' even when all else seems to be going well.

I did take another guy that I didn't know down a couple weeks ago. The main difference is that he (unlike you) had Lots of post on the boards. Why do I think that is necessary? Well, by reading his post I got a pretty good idea of his personality and whether or not he was the kind of guy I would want to drink a beer with... much less travel to a different country with.

For now, my humble suggestion would be that you:
1) Do some posting (either here or on the other board), so people will get to know you.
2) Read others' post on what to do and what not to do.
3) Especially search & read the post by LOBO 003. He is a great guy and really knows his stuff. He was the guy that took me under his wing and showed me the ropes in Nogales. He is still the MASTER of the Nogales chica scene.

Then after reading, posting (experiences and questions) and a few months ask the question again.

Also, if you want to communicate privately with board members try using the PM function, instead of asking someone for their person email address. You will have better luck getting a reply.

Good luck, have fun and BE SAFE!

CL

Quick8

04-30-10, 06:17

Guys,

Thanks again for the replys. Completely understand your point of view and explanation. Think this is an interesting forum and as a rookie, get your message loud and clear. I am trying to learn the ropes and make sense of this new game. I tell you all that I have done plenty of research on other sites, but, this one seems to have real guys with real experience. I will do look at more postings and go from there. In the meantime, enjoy your trips and I will stay in touch thru this forum.

Thanks again.

Stripper Luv

05-02-10, 15:05

Went to Nogales last night, a Friday night. The street in front of Boleiros was blocked off for a festival. Apparently it's the windup to Cinco de Mayo. So to access the clubs you had to either cross over the bridge or trek north to the Garita 2 and cross the railroad tracks there and work your way down to the clubs. The streets were filled with vendors, games, bands (actually playing decent music. It was very enjoyable.)

Met my novia at Boleiros. We ate, drank, fucked, and had a good time until the street fiesta began about 9:00. After we left Boleiros, we wandered the streets until we found ourselves inside Lust. This place is a dump. There's three "booths", semi open, that included a couch. Also about a dozen tables on the floor and a small bar. If you like beefy heifers, this place is for you. There was about 6-7 "dancers" none of whom were appealing. We didn't stay long-couldn't stomach the scenery.

Once we left Lust, we partied in the street. Lots of dancing and happy people. A good time.

Lobo 003

05-02-10, 21:37

I just had to go down and visit with friends and partake of the Cinco de Mayo fiesta. Plenty of hot chicas all over the f**ing place music bands good food and all the beautiful girls that your eyes can handle. The party continues for another 10 days after this post, don't miss it guys it's a kick ass fun time. I'll probably be going down there fequently during the fiesta, accompanied by close friends that want to have fun. The fiesta is located on Elias street right smack in front of Boleiro and Lust. See you guys down there.

Plenty of police, so it's SAFE guys don't worry about getting mugged or shot. Although we did have an incident with a group of cops, they were targeting my friend for what reason I can only guess. The police officer was shocked when I spoke to him saying a few choice words in spanish, no problems after that.

From my point of view I still find Nogales safe, while I walked around everything seemed to be calm and normal. there have been some incidents in the last few months, Hotel Pancho Villa had a shoot out and now it's closed and a few other hotels and bars, some still operating, they even had a big shoot out behind Boleiros on the streets. On the other hand maybe it is getting a bit dangerous, it doesn't bother me and the Nogi regulars but you have to make your own decision about your safety. I can only tell you of the current climate and conditions.

Pricing: Some of the clubs are giving better deals for inhouse chicas, maybe it's just me at a $100 a pop for FS, I still didn't bite although I was tempted.

Lust just reopened after being closed several months with a new manager who is a good friend of mine. They finally got rid of the idiot who managed it before. They are also offering $2 dollar drinks including beers and are willing to work with you on other services.

Studio 69 as of lately has been a really nice place to be, plenty of hot girls very willing to go the extra mile. If those girls keep it up, no pun intended I won't have to rent a chick I'll get a few privados and I'll be done, you guys fill in the blanks. Wink Wink.

Boleiros hot girls as usuall

Obsessions I got there early for the first shift and there was not much to report I had plans to go back that evening but never made it, but what I have seen in the last few weeks have been encouraging and management is willing to work with you. Those are good guys at that club and they deserve your support.

My playtoys, a very nice spinner and one hell of a chichona (big tits) I had a great time with both of them.( $60 per girl ) I spent most of the night with the little spinner, she seemed to need some company and wanted to be around a man, who am I to deny myself to a woman in need. After our fruitful encounter lying there on the bed I caressed her and she fell asleep in my arms I let her sleep untill it was time for me to go which was about 5am

The economy is tough on the girls and are very willing to negotiate.

All in all one hell of a great time

Be safe...

LOBO

Ed...

05-03-10, 22:37

"Although we did have an incident with a group of cops, they were targeting my friend for what reason I can only guess. "

" there have been some incidents in the last few months, Hotel Pancho Villa had a shoot out and now it's closed and a few other hotels and bars, some still operating, they even had a big shoot out behind Boleiros on the streets."

Be safe...

LOBO

Lol Lobo I guess that's no worse than a big US city downtown but this is our quiet, sleepy Nogales!
I had the mis-fortune of being there on the first when there was much political animosity. I am not visiting Mexico to discuss the evils of the United States laws, how we are destroying their economy or any other beef some fool has with people that look like me ;)
The girls don't seem to care as long as the dollars are there but walking around town a bit as I have in the past has come to an end.

Because of a few dumb-asses and the anti- U.S. / Arizona sentimate, I have no desire to bother with Nogales any more.

Quick8

05-05-10, 05:48

Sounds like 5 de Mayo is an excellent time down there. Any suggestions on Hotels. If for example, one would spend a Monday night?

Chica Luv

05-06-10, 10:56

Sounds like 5 de Mayo is an excellent time down there. Any suggestions on Hotels. If for example, one would spend a Monday night?

I always stay at the Fray Marcos, nicest hotel close to clubs @ 675 a night, ask for room away from street, can get room service from bar and restrauant, close to Obsessions, good restrauant across the street, usually lets you check in early, check out at 1PM

Olivia Hotel, around corner and two blocks down from Fray Marcos. Not as nice but OK and clean, about 450 a night, noisy, sometimes hard to get a room and usually can not check in before 4-5PM

Hotel California....do not have any experience.

Also, Lobo usually has some really good insight on the hotels, along with just about everything else in Nogales.... he is the man!

Guidos

05-07-10, 04:21

Guys,

Anyone know where to find street girls in Nogi?

I have visited Lust and Boliero's once or twice, but hate getting ripped off.

Thanks in advance!

Guidos

Lobo 003

05-07-10, 18:07

Guys,

Anyone know where to find street girls in Nogi?

Guidos
Guidos if you would research my past post you will see I have covered that subject in depth many times. As for now all the girls will most likely be strolling the fiesta, the trick is to figure out which are the working girls.

Your question about Casa de Sitas,
They do exist in Nogi however they are just to far from the main action and hard to find, many are at the other end of Nogales. You either need to drive there or pay for an expensive taxi ride.
Usually $60 US in a dark dingy room, not my greatest recommendation.

Quick8

Your question about hotels: I have also covered this subject in depth in past posts. Do your research on this site.

Be safe...

LOBO

Quick8

05-08-10, 22:16

Lobo 003

05-09-10, 00:17

Thanks Lobo. I will do that this weekend. Although your reports are pretty detailed. One item that I am not clear on is if it's better to park and walk across into Nogales. If park and walk is a better choice, where do you recommend to park? What is the rate per day? Also, I will be driving from Phoenix. Any recommendations on that end? Sorry for all the questions, I am trying to develop my plan of attach! Yeah baby.

During the weekend it's better to walk across because if you drive across and want to come home early you might be waiting hours to cross back over. Park on the US side then walk into mexico is your best bet overall. Everwhere you need to go is withion a 3 block walking radius

Parking on US side use the UETA parking as I19 ends in Nogi and rounds the corner at 25 miles per hour to your right and across the street from Burger King is $4.00 parking for 12 hours. You can park at the Burger King for $5.00 make sure you pay and get your pay stub displaying it on your dash for your parking, a tow company checks regularly and will tow quickly

I hope this helps

LOBO

Quick8

05-12-10, 05:17

Thanks Lobo. I understand the logic behind the parking.

Will scope out a couple of options and make some plans.

Septim22

05-27-10, 16:30

Long time lurker first time poster here.

In a recent business trip to Nogi I drove across with a co worker. On the way back I got out of the car when we got close to the entrance to the US to grab some last minute food. I noticed to the east and across the tracks a line of people waiting to cross into the US. I have never noticed that particular US entrance before so I flagged my friend to drive into the US and I used that check point to cross over.

Seemed slightly faster then the entrance to the US that I had been using on the west side of the tracks. Now that I think back to it I am curious if you can enter Mexico from that entrance also. Anyone ever use that gate to enter mexico? Seems closer to the action to me. I always feel kind of exposed when I walk across the tracks and I would avoid it if I could.

I am planning a trip out there in a few weeks, and I would appreciate it if anyone can give me a yes or no on if you can enter mexico from that gate.

If I don't get an answer I will post my results after the trip.

Thanks

Septim22

05-27-10, 19:57

Long time lurker, first time poster.

Noticed a line going into the USA side on the east side of the tracks a few weeks back. Now I am wondering if you can enter Mexico from that place also. I dislike crossing the tracks when I go there and would prefer to enter in closer to where the action is.

Anyone know if there is an entrance there, or were my eyes fooling me?

I plan on going in a few weeks. I'll post my results if no one knows.

Thanks for all the great posts guys.

Septim22

05-28-10, 16:36

Sorry about the double post.

Lobo 003

05-28-10, 19:25

Quick8

05-29-10, 08:19

Hey guys, I am pretty bumm today. I was planning a great two day trip and things did not work out for me. I will try again in two weeks. Anyways, just wanted to know if anyone has been out here recently and if so, what is the report now for some cool action? Also, I like clubs too, a little dancing is cool, so any ideas you may want to share are welcome.

Peace to you!

Lobo 003

06-10-10, 12:17

I was in Nogi on wednesday 6/9/2010 and I have to warn you that it appears that the city of Nogales Sonora is preparing for war. 300 federal police (Federales) have been stationed in Nogales Mex. and temporarily residing in all of the hotels I use, I personally witnessed about 100 officers with side arms and machine guns swarming all over the place, including our favorite tittie bars, they are there in the event that hostilities break out between warring drug factions. The word on the street is that the Zetas are preparing to engage the northern drug cartel for control of the drug corridor, so in essence they are going to shoot it out. I hope Nogales does not turn into a city like Juarez.

I highly recommend that you stay away for now. I just hope I will listen to my own advice.

Hopefully with the Federales present, the situation may be diffused. It was a bit daunting manuevering myself through so many Federales. Needless to say it made it very difficult finding a playtoy I didn't want to put myself in a position that would warrant their attention. Not that they would arrest me but I could say goodbye to some of my cash. I normally don't have any problems with the mexican police thay are usually quiet cordial and polite toward myself, I have more problems with US officers always asking stupid questions and I always get into a stare down with some of them, what the f**k loosen up a bit.

The best I could do was to to get digits and make dates for another day. There was one hottie that I might have partied with in a club if it wasn't for her being so timid, basically she frustrated me, I would get her close and she would loosen up and actually have fun, then she would excuse herself for different reasons and drift away untill I brought her back. I guess I need more time flirting with her. Maybe another privado with tittie sucking and diddling her pussy, she really loved the nipple play.

One girl in another club, because it was so slow and has been that way for quiet some time, said she would give me a deal for $120 for a full hour, she tells me you probably pay $120 outside the club, I told her I haven't paid $120 in over 2 years I told her that it sure has been awhile since you worked the street I only pay $60 max for a girl and she looked at me in disbelief. She said you are paying less now for girls than what you used to pay, THAT'S RIGHT!!! For your info I rented this girl when she worked the street about 3 to 4 years ago and paid $100 for her time. Some of these girls need to f**king wake up and get real.

On another point a local tucson news station was interviewing people on the US side of Nogales in reference to the killing in Juarez by a border patrol agent who fired and killed a teenager running back into Mexico, most people where oblivious to what had happened.

The same for our new immigration law most people in Nogales Mexico have no clue to what's it all about or what it does. Some who are in the know actually support it, they say the illegals broke the law so now they will suffer the consequences. All this fiasco that is being heard in the states on this subject is strickly a US phenomenon. The only thing mexicans equated with our new law is how it effects them economically. This perspective is from my own personally experience researching in Nogales a couple weeks ago just to find out how they felt about this subject and was I surprised, nothing like what I hear on the news, stateside.

Overall it is extremely slow and has been that way for awhile all the girls miss our green backs. I keep hearing, where are all the gringos???
Clubs are still asking rediculous prices for FS, like I have said before the worst the economy gets the higher the prices.

I'm undertaking a new effort and trying to ammend my $60 rule and drop it to a $50 rule I actaully want to go lower but I will implement it slowly.

Be safe...

LOBO

Broncobilly2

06-11-10, 04:13

I've been going to Nogie every two weeks for the past ten years and have seen the good times and now the bad times, at least as far as business is concerned. I have never seen it so slow, so slow I'm afraid that we will lose the venue for our hobby. Cops camped out in hotels or not I will continue to go on my bimonthly run to buy cigarettes, drink beer at my favorite bar, eat tacos from my favorite taco cart and, last but not least get a massage.

BTW..I was in TJ last week and the cops were camped out at serveral hotels also. I usually stay at the Marriott and I noticed sand bags and bunkers with troops behind them at the hotel next it.

There is a war going on, people are getting killed everyday...we are just not part of it, unless they miss their target.

Salute!! Viva MX!

Eehwhatsupdoc

06-12-10, 06:06

Broncobilly2

06-17-10, 05:50

Lobo was right. Federal Police by the truckload all up & down Obregon, no one wanted to talk about it. Not many across the tracks but really quiet everywhere. About 5 so so chicas in Studio 69, maybe 8 in Obsession. I know it's the afternoon but I was there for my dentist.

It's funny there, go in, they say $4 cover then it's 2 for 1. I say no. OK come on in. Order a beer, they bring 2. No, I just want one right now. Ok fine. $4. No thanks I am not paying $4 for a beer. Ok $1 at Studio 69, $2 at Obsessions. These people are obviously hungry. Kind of sad.

No chicas worth anything so I had my beers and left. Better luck next time. It's a weird vibe down there.

Stay safeEehwhatsupdoc this has nothing to do with your post. I am just frustrated and so sick of all the complaining about the prices in Nogie that others have posted. I hope all the little cry babies will read this!!!

I first went to Nogie to monger in 1993 and regularly since 2000. Nogie in no way, and never will, have the traffic of lets say TJ. A puta in TJ has access to literally 100s of horney old men everyday therefore increasing their odds of making money. Most turn 2 or three a shift during the week plus fichas. In Nogie during the week a ***** will be lucky to turn one a day.

When you go to a bar in Nogie during the week there may be only 1,2,3 or maybe 4 other horn dogs in there. Do the fucking math. Not a bunch of pecos huh. Then, if the ***** gets lucky and she will get fucked and the bar gets who knows how much out of the 140 you dish out. It varies from bar to bar, Im sure.

I see nothing wrong with those of us that go to Nogie having to fork out 4 or 5 bucks a beer, 10 for a fitcha, and 140 for a BG. Oh well it come with the territory. Nogales is nogales and TJ is TJ, and pussy is pussy. If you want it pay for it and quit bitching.

Chica Luv

06-23-10, 02:20

BB
After reading ALL 3 of your posts on this board, I am a little confused as to why you are even concerned about what the rest of us think of the pricing in Nogales, and/or why you feel the need to make an issue out of others opinion on the pricing P4P in Nogales.

I also see from one of your THREE posts that you do however like the discounted prices of cigarettes (bimonthly run to buy cigarettes).

Why should someone else’s desire to buy the discounted services of a Latin woman be any different that your desire for discounted cigarettes?

I want to believe that someone with you (self-proclaimed) experience ("I first went to Nogie to monger in 1993") would have a lot of personal experiences to share... some useful information that we all could benefit from... you know something more in line with the spirit of this board.

Actually, I didn't even know you existed until I read your commits about LOBO's post and now this award-winning piece.

I really hate to see you in such pain! If you are so "frustrated and so sick of all the complaining about the prices in Nogie that others have posted", why don't you consider withdrawing from this board. It would keep you from being frustrated.

...or maybe just not post anything for another 17 years ("I first went to Nogie to monger in 1993").

Believe me, I wouldn't miss your contribution (or lack thereof).

Chica

Eehwhatsupdoc this has nothing to do with your post. I am just frustrated and so sick of all the complaining about the prices in Nogie that others have posted. I hope all the little cry babies will read this!!!

I first went to Nogie to monger in 1993 and regularly since 2000. Nogie in no way, and never will, have the traffic of lets say TJ. A puta in TJ has access to literally 100s of horney old men everyday therefore increasing their odds of making money. Most turn 2 or three a shift during the week plus fichas. In Nogie during the week a ***** will be lucky to turn one a day.

When you go to a bar in Nogie during the week there may be only 1,2,3 or maybe 4 other horn dogs in there. Do the fucking math. Not a bunch of pecos huh. Then, if the ***** gets lucky and she will get fucked and the bar gets who knows how much out of the 140 you dish out. It varies from bar to bar, Im sure.

I see nothing wrong with those of us that go to Nogie having to fork out 4 or 5 bucks a beer, 10 for a fitcha, and 140 for a BG. Oh well it come with the territory. Nogales is nogales and TJ is TJ, and pussy is pussy. If you want it pay for it and quit bitching.