Nogales

[Broncobilly2]

BB,

After reading ALL 3 of your posts on this board, I am a little confused as to why you are even concerned about what the rest of us think of the pricing in Nogales, and/or why you feel the need to make an issue out of others opinion on the pricing P4P in Nogales.

I also see from one of your THREE posts that you do however like the discounted prices of cigarettes (bimonthly run to buy cigarettes).

Why should someone else’s desire to buy the discounted services of a Latin woman be any different that your desire for discounted cigarettes?

I want to believe that someone with you (self-proclaimed) experience ("I first went to Nogie to monger in 1993") would have a lot of personal experiences to share... some useful information that we all could benefit from... you know something more in line with the spirit of this board.

Actually, I didn't even know you existed until I read your commits about LOBO's post and now this award-winning piece.

I really hate to see you in such pain! If you are so "frustrated and so sick of all the complaining about the prices in Nogie that others have posted", why don't you consider withdrawing from this board. It would keep you from being frustrated.

...or maybe just not post anything for another 17 years ("I first went to Nogie to monger in 1993").

Believe me, I wouldn't miss your contribution (or lack thereof).

ChicaThanks CL I appreciate your feedback. This is the exact response I wanted. You said three posts. I think I only made two prior to this one. Guess I was drunk and don't remember. I'll get back with you with a reply when I get back from Nogie either later 2 nite or whenever I get a chance even though you could care less.

I luv your emotion. You have your heart in it. Much like me. Huh!

This shit livens up a board.

BTW, since you have been going to Nogie since 1993, I bet we have run into each other and just don't know it.

Peace!

[Bubbanaz]

I can not believe anybody surprized down here.

You got to pay the piper.

[Septim22]

Visited Nogales last weekend and decided to give Orisis massage a try. Found it a few blocks south and west from obsessions.

40 bucks for an hour, and three girls were working. I picked Valerie, who I would judge is about a 7. She said she would go for 80, I countered with 60 and she agreed right away. Made me wish I had started at 50 ;)

We started with a massage that wasn’t all that great and about ten minutes in I flipped. She got all cold and stiff when I touched her tits.. so I sat back and let her do whatever made her comfortable, which turned out to be a cbj with just a little too much tooth to be fun for me. At one point I just had to stop her, and she gave me this look that made me bust out laughing. The look conveyed the message, “hey, you’re not enjoying this right, gringo!”

We started with CG, but she was still not getting into it and I asked her if she wanted to kiss or touch or anything to get herself more relaxed, she said she did not. After a few minutes I was spent and started to clean up. She offered another pop after some massage but I declined. I just can’t enjoy it if the girl is so nervous.

I think I should have paid more attention to what girls seemed more relaxed when I picked. The other girls were comparable to Valerie and if they showed even a little bit of enthusiasm it would have made the trip a LOT more fun. I might try again there next time I visit.

City seemed dead of tourists. I noticed at least 5 federales on various street corners and at hotel entrances. All seemed polite, except one that gave me some stink eye and muttered something under his breath at me. I can only assume me was jealous of my debonair charm.

[Chica Luv]

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Chica


Visited Nogales last weekend and decided to give Orisis massage a try. Found it a few blocks south and west from obsessions.

40 bucks for an hour, and three girls were working. I picked Valerie, who I would judge is about a 7. She said she would go for 80, I countered with 60 and she agreed right away. Made me wish I had started at 50 ;)

We started with a massage that wasn’t all that great and about ten minutes in I flipped. She got all cold and stiff when I touched her tits.. so I sat back and let her do whatever made her comfortable, which turned out to be a cbj with just a little too much tooth to be fun for me. At one point I just had to stop her, and she gave me this look that made me bust out laughing. The look conveyed the message, “hey, you’re not enjoying this right, gringo!”

We started with CG, but she was still not getting into it and I asked her if she wanted to kiss or touch or anything to get herself more relaxed, she said she did not. After a few minutes I was spent and started to clean up. She offered another pop after some massage but I declined. I just can’t enjoy it if the girl is so nervous.

I think I should have paid more attention to what girls seemed more relaxed when I picked. The other girls were comparable to Valerie and if they showed even a little bit of enthusiasm it would have made the trip a LOT more fun. I might try again there next time I visit.

City seemed dead of tourists. I noticed at least 5 federales on various street corners and at hotel entrances. All seemed polite, except one that gave me some stink eye and muttered something under his breath at me. I can only assume me was jealous of my debonair charm.

[Septim22]

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ChicaLooks like PM's come with a yearly subscription.

I should do that.

[Eehwhatsupdoc]

I would like to find an experienced flaya/tour guide for frequent visits. Need English as my Espanol is mui poquito. PM me.

Thanks,

Doc

[Eehwhatsupdoc]

Visiting usually Friday afternoons. (Dentist!) Looking for a flaya/tour guide. Leave contact directions here or PM me to make a connection.

Thanks

[Eehwhatsupdoc]

I am seeking a tour guide/flaya to asssist me on regular (dental!) trips to Nogales, usually Fridays. PM me if possible.

Thanks

[Chica Luv]

Spent the weekend in Nogales. Lots of Federal police in the area. Do not drink and drive, especially late at night. The cops will be all over you.

Club action was very different. Seems to be a lot of Mexican men and very few Gringos. Many of the girls were with the Mexican guys with cash (follow the money) and didn't seem as interested in the Gringos.

The whole late night strip club attitude seemed different. Massage palors seemed more willing to deal.

Although I prefer going down Mon-Wed, I've had to change my routine to Friday-Sunday. So, I'll be there this Friday afternoon. Hopefully, the afternoon shift girls will be more interested in a little gringo money.

Be safe, times are pretty hard down in MX and people that you once might have trusted might not be as trust worthy...especially now.
Chica Luv

[Chica Luv]

There are two major MP near the border. Both on opposite sides of the R/R tracks.

I was down last weekend and visited both. The MP west of the R/R is only open during the day. It has more girls and they are willing to DEAL. The deal I made was for a 1 hour massage for 200pesos (usual asking price is $40 US). The girl (of my choosing) provided FS, BBBJ, DFK, DATY. Price for the girl was 250pesos.

I didn't pay the MP or the girl until after all my business was completed. That policy seems to keep them both VERY honest.

The MP on east of the R/R is nicer, has more AC, usually has 3-5 girls and is open until 3 or 4 AM, depending on what time of the day.

I prefer meeting and befriending one or more of the girls from the strip clubs. Last weekend I went down on Friday night and met up with my #1 Stripper GF.

She spent the night with me. Saturday we had breakfast and then went shopping. She headed home for a change of clothes and met me back at my hotel four hours later. Of course during her time at home, I had to contribute to the MP.

My #1 GF returned. We went to the mall, had dinner, window shopping and to the movies. The next morning we slept in and then had a lunch. I head back to AZ and she headed out of town to visit her family.

There were lots of other girls in the clubs and many wanting to go home with a gringo. The Federal Police are everywhere in the border area and many living in the hotels.

Things are still dangerous down in Nogales. Maybe a little more. Because the economy is so bad, many of those you could once trust are looking hard to make money.

Be Careful,
Chica Luv

[Muffdiver21]

I went to Nogales this Wednesday. I saw a cool new hotel 1 block down from TD Obsessions towards Ave Obregon. It is called Hotel Contemporango.

Calle Internacional no 79 Col Fundo Legal
Nogales Sonora Mex 631-312-0340
hotelcontemporaneo@prodigy.net.mx

It sort of looks like a cool Hostel but cost $45.00 dollars I think. So they must have private rooms.

I picked up a chick at Club 69 and took her back to hotel 47 because I did not find the new hotel until afterwords. I really got my brains screwed out this time by a 19 year old hottie with a super pussy.

[Cubbies 9911]

I just moved to Arizona a month ago and want to start heading down to Nogales, but I'm less comfortable doing so since there haven't been many reports lately. 1 in the last month to be specific. I've read just about every post in this thread and am confident I can have a good time down there but I'm just wondering if more of you have been down there and if it's still game on? Prices still the same, safety issues, any info would help.

Thanks

[Eehwhatsupdoc]

Hey MD, nice work! Where is Hotel 47? Near Studio 69?

Thanks for your post.

Doc

[TurdyCurdyOne]

Been all over MX over many years including all the p4p border towns. I know the p4p scene there quite well.

Speak enuf Spanish to get by.

If anyone is interested in meeting me in Tucson for a joint weekend trip there, message me. Reason for pairing is strictly for "watch each others back" and someone to talk to in English. Used to go mostly to Juarez, but Nogales is bad enough these days, Juarez is a war zone. Be prepared to exchange photo ID's for safety sake. No drugs, no sloppy drinkers.

[Stripper Luv]

Cubbies,

I'm in nogie all the time. Things are certainly different there thanks to the drug war. I try to be observant and avoid dicey situations. If I'm going to be there late, I'll sleep over at my fiance's house. (She works at Bolieros)

The clubs were barely functioning. Few customers. I remember the days when they were standing room only. At the highest customer count, Boleiros had 18 people in one hour on friday night.

Club economics: Chica drinks are $11 and $20 depending on the girl's status at the club. The girl gets $5 of the drink price. The full service price (before negotiation) is $180 of which the girl gets $120. That leaves some cushion for bartering.

The situation is such that you may find yourself as the only gringo in a club depending on the day and time. Just be aware and you should be fine.

If the police or soldiers enter the club, just remain calm and do what they say. They aren't there to hassle you (assuming you're not a drug lord).

[TurdyCurdyOne]

I do not go into those clip joint clubs. IMO, people that do pissing away their money. Last time I was in Nogales I had a nice 8, clean, smelled good, about 18 years old, never previously pregnant-nice an tight, big tits nice body. Picked her up off the city street. $40 bucks for full service and she was good and nice. Thanks for the info, but you need to attend turdygurdy's school of mongering.



Cubbies,

I'm in nogie all the time. Things are certainly different there thanks to the drug war. I try to be observant and avoid dicey situations. If I'm going to be there late, I'll sleep over at my fiance's house. (She works at Bolieros)

The clubs were barely functioning. Few customers. I remember the days when they were standing room only. At the highest customer count, Boleiros had 18 people in one hour on friday night.

Club economics: Chica drinks are $11 and $20 depending on the girl's status at the club. The girl gets $5 of the drink price. The full service price (before negotiation) is $180 of which the girl gets $120. That leaves some cushion for bartering.

The situation is such that you may find yourself as the only gringo in a club depending on the day and time. Just be aware and you should be fine.

If the police or soldiers enter the club, just remain calm and do what they say. They aren't there to hassle you (assuming you're not a drug lord).

[Stripper Luv]

Everyone has their own way of finding sex in Mexico. IMO people who pick up street hookers are asking for trouble in this dangerous climate. Just ask my friend who picked up a young solid 8 on the street and ended up getting pistol whipped when he took her back to his hotel room by her drug-gang boyfriend.

I feel safer in the clubs. Besides my fiancé works in one of them. Entitles me to special privileges & prices (or no charge). The prices I quoted in my previous post were for the benefit of Cubbies who I was responding to.

If you want to compare who gets laid for less in Nogie, you'll have a hard time beating my overhead--free. Thanks to my girl, I can spend a 3-day weekend in Nogie and spend less than the $40 you spent on the street hooker. And, it's a lot safer.


I do not go into those clip joint clubs. IMO, people that do pissing away their money. Last time I was in Nogales I had a nice 8, clean, smelled good, about 18 years old, never previously pregnant-nice an tight, big tits nice body. Picked her up off the city street. $40 bucks for full service and she was good and nice. Thanks for the info, but you need to attend turdygurdy's school of mongering.

[Stripper Luv]

My esposa (wife) and I both highly recommend Carmella at boleiros. Tall, gorgeous, great body, amazing personality, right attitude, speaks English. You won't be disappointed. Perfect package.

[SixteenVolt182]

Hi,

I have been going to Tijuana about 6 times over the last few months. I live in the Phoenix area, it is kind of a drive 6 hours. I have been thinking of trying Nogales, but with all the drug war talk I have been hearing I am a little bit Leary, but willing to take a chance.

I pay about $60 us for a girl in TJ, which is pretty cheap I think, you only get 30 minutes. I pay about $30 for a street girl in TJ.

It seems like the prices are much higher in Nogales.

If anyone can shed some light on the situation down there, or would like to hook up for a trip down there I would be willing.

I am not a drinker, so you don't have to worry about that. I just like to get laid once in a while by a hot 18-19yo.

[Chica Luv]

Stripper Luv, You definitely have the inside track. I think that is great and hope to some day develop some relations to that point.

GREAT JOB!

My experience with Carmella is this:
If it is the same Carmella that has worked back and forth between Boleros & Obsessions. Yes, she is a great gal and lots of fun. However, she has been know to work a guy hard in the club with promises of take-home, only to leave you holding your own dick. I know this from personal experience and so do several of my friends.

She did this to me one to many times. Now, I enjoy talking with her, but don't waste my time or money expecting anything else. That is of course unless, all you really want is a good time in the club. I am not saying that she does this to everyone, but there are lots of other girls that are just as nice that won't stand you up.
CL


My esposa (wife) and I both highly recommend Carmella at boleiros. Tall, gorgeous, great body, amazing personality, right attitude, speaks English. You won't be disappointed. Perfect package.

[TurdyCurdyOne]

prices are much higher in Nogales for the dummies that go to the clip joint clubs. notice you did not respond to my earlier post, so what is your motivation really for posting this?


Hi,

I have been going to Tijuana about 6 times over the last few months. I live in the Phoenix area, it is kind of a drive 6 hours. I have been thinking of trying Nogales, but with all the drug war talk I have been hearing I am a little bit Leary, but willing to take a chance.

I pay about $60 us for a girl in TJ, which is pretty cheap I think, you only get 30 minutes. I pay about $30 for a street girl in TJ.

It seems like the prices are much higher in Nogales.

If anyone can shed some light on the situation down there, or would like to hook up for a trip down there I would be willing.

I am not a drinker, so you don't have to worry about that. I just like to get laid once in a while by a hot 18-19yo.

[Vaquero]

A lot of the people I know who live in U.S. Nogales say it's not worth crossing the line on foot to go to the bars. Talk of kidnappings and shootings.

Would it be dangerous to cross for a massage these days? And are the girls worth the risk?

[2nd Chance]

A lot of the people I know who live in U.S. Nogales say it's not worth crossing the line on foot to go to the bars. Talk of kidnappings and shootings.

Would it be dangerous to cross for a massage these days? And are the girls worth the risk?

I can't speak for everyone, but I've never felt "unsafe" while being near the border in Nogales MX. I think the greater risk is when you venture too far into Nogales MX.

One thing I would caution is to avoid any strip bar where the locals seem too "rowdy" or if they appear to be spending a lot of cash. These may be the criminal element coming into town to celebrate.

In my experience, most locals only spend money on drinks. Rarely do I see a local spend big bucks on girls.

As for the massage places, I doubt if they enter these establishments much, but I can't say for sure. I would expect the criminal elements would want to go where the music is loud, the alcohol is flowing, and the selection of girls to be high. Purely my opinion.

[TurdyCurdyOne]

Several shot and killed as young as 14 yrs old (possible others younger) at kids party in Nogales. Just on the nightly news here. When they start offing children,you know things are bad.

Nogales NEVER had that much to offer. The clubs are rip off joints with the possible exception of the Conga (or what it USED to be). There's not that much street action but I have scored there very well in the past.

It used to be a relatively quiet safe town. I think that is no more.

[2nd Chance]

Nogales NEVER had that much to offer. The clubs are rip off joints with the possible exception of the Conga (or what it USED to be). There's not that much street action but I have scored there very well in the past. It used to be a relatively quiet safe town. I think that is no more.

Nogales was a fun and safe place up til about 10 years ago. It was my favorite hangout. Prices started to go up, the quality of chicas started to go down, and now the influence of the drugs are just making it worse.

I guess there are better alternatives. A relatively untapped source may be Agua Prieta near Douglas. Los Alogones near Yuma isn't too bad. Mexicali is my new "fun zone".

[Chica Luv]

AP basically has three strip clubs... two in the Zone and one about three blocks from the border. The one nearest the border usually has the better looking ladies, but also the highest prices. The two in the zone are pretty cheap 400-600 for room and girl, but then again most of these ladies are second/third string players. Once in a while you might find a gem...but not too often. I have also picked up girls outside near the clubs for $20. They will go to your hotel or even a car date...

A better deal is to go down and hit some of the local night clubs. If you speak a little spanish all the better.

For the money, selection and location I still like Nogales. However, the weekends usually have a lot more young Mexican locals with too much cash in their pockets (which spells drug gang members to me). I try to go down to Nogales Sun-Wed. The girls are not covered up with all the guys spending stupid money.

Still a lot of fun to be had in Nogales...especially the westerly massage place. I can rountinely get layed for 400 pesos to the girl and 200 to the house. If you really worked it, you could probably get off even cheaper. Of course I don't pay either until after I am satisified with the service.
Chica Luv


Nogales was a fun and safe place up til about 10 years ago. It was my favorite hangout. Prices started to go up, the quality of chicas started to go down, and now the influence of the drugs are just making it worse.

I guess there are better alternatives. A relatively untapped source may be Agua Prieta near Douglas. Los Alogones near Yuma isn't too bad. Mexicali is my new "fun zone".

[Chica Luv]

Tried to send you a PM... Wouldn't go throught.
Chica Luv

[Stripper Luv]

Tried to send you a PM... Wouldn't go throught.

Chica LuvCan't get PMs here because I don't have a paid membership. I responded to your PM at USASG.

[Chica Luv]

Got you PM on USASG. I'll buy you a ISG membership for Christmas when I see you in late Nov/Dec
LOL
CL


Can't get PMs here because I don't have a paid membership. I responded to your PM at USASG.

[Vaquero]

I was at the border on business. Since I had a tight schedule and hate talking biz with a hangover, I didn't cross the line. But some younger friends did.

They're new to Nogales, more or less. Told me they paid $150 each for service in back bedrooms of Obsessions.

Said they went to Club 69 and that the women there weren't worth the trip. But they liked Obsessions.

[Eehwhatsupdoc]

Smart money is always on Chica Luv. Told me about massage place (well, bordello) on Obregon, 1/2 blk S of bank. Quality depends, but price is right. 400 P girl, 200 P house should get you what you want. Street is torn up so watch your step! Can you say "infrastucture"?

[Bobbybjack]

i was at the border on business. since i had a tight schedule and hate talking biz with a hangover, i didn't cross the line. but some younger friends did.

they're new to nogales, more or less. told me they paid $150 each for service in back bedrooms of obsessions.

said they went to club 69 and that the women there weren't worth the trip. but they liked obsessions.i don't think this is accurate at all. i recently went to nogales a couple of days ago, and obsessions is pretty much a dump. not to mention the fact, that its probably dangerous to walk solo from obsessions to the border or to the other strip clubs. i left obsessions by myself at 2am, and there were a couple of gangs of guys just chilling. both groups eyeballed me and murmured something. the only good thing about obsessions was that there was a girl that fairly new, and i asked how much to bang her in the hotel right across the street. she mumble something about $50 house and whatever i want to give her. i asked her again how much because i didn't hear right, and she said "$100. " i said $50 for the house and $50 for you, she said "yes. " so i was tempted because she seemed really cool and it probably would have been a good experience. i am assuming the price at the club is cheaper. the club told me to negotiate a price with them and the girl would negotiate one also.

afterwards i went to boleros. i was looking for the fiance of that one guy that posts here and other forums. i wanted to give her a good banging before she left the industry. however, i didn't want to specifically ask for her so i just talked to this one that was pretty lean with a great ass. seems like she would be a good fuck. she quoted me $180 for 1 hour in the back rooms (this included the house cut). she seemed to be too professional and probably had worked for a long time, so i decided she wouldn't be a good pound.

afterwards i walked to studio69. by far it is the nicest place in nogales. the place looks better than most usa strip clubs. and there are a couple of girls that are really hot. i found a 9 face, 8 body little spinner that i wanted to bang the [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) out of. at closing time i asked her to give me her e-mail and she went up to the bar to write something down. everybody was leaving the club and two "cholo" looking dudes seemed to be waiting there, almost like looking around overseeing stuff. anyways, so she gives me her e-mail and it looks like she really does want to bang me. but i decide i don't feel comfortable about it and decide to leave. right away she asks the guy that is going to walk me back to the border, "where is he going? " and the guy says, cruzar la frontera. so he starts showing me how to cross the border and says just cross over the train tracks. well the same cholos from the club drive up to me in this car and ask me "where you going. " again, i say "cruzar la frontera. " he nods his head and leaves. i just imagine what the fuck would have happened to me if i had decided to take the 9 to a hotel or if i had decided to stay in a hotel there in mexico.

this was a real scary experience guys. first of all, i am completely bilingual and i am latino. so don't think this is some gringo freaking out or something. i live in el paso and have been to juarez, df, tijuana quite a few times. i have also been all over latin america, including colombia. this is by far the scariest place i have ever been too. i will not be returning to nogales. if you decide to go to nogales i would recommend sticking to boleros and studio69 and do all your business inside the club (even though it will be kind of expensive). even though obsessions is kinda of dumpy, i really don't like walking over there alone at 3am. but i admit that the best prices you are going to get are probably at obsessions.

[Chica Luv]

bj
sorry you had such a scary experience in nogales sonora. i've been going to nogales sonora for a while now, and only once did i think that i was close to being in a bad place.

that one time i was the only gringo in an after hours club at 4:30am. i had a close call with a couple of mexican guys that spoke really go english. in the end i left without incident, but i learned a valuable lesson.... if you can't get laid in nogales by 3am then you need to go home.

as for ever being afraid or worried about my safety any other time.... nada! sure if you walk around like you're new and don't know the ropes, chances are someone is going to try and take advantage of you. hell, that happens just about anywhere; tucson, phoenix ....

as for the girls and their prices.... i've had lot of great ass in nogales from all three or four of the different clubs. none of them in the club and none of them over 800 pesos.

you are certainly welcome to you option based on you're limited nogales experience; but i like nogales, think it is as safe as most border towns (us or mx side) and know that there is lots of great ladies to be had at reasonable prices.

i have been out of town for a few weeks, but will be back soon. i'll send you a current update upon my return; names places prices...etc.

good luck and remember to leave the light on tonight when you go to bed...
chica luv


i don't think this is accurate at all. i recently went to nogales a couple of days ago, and obsessions is pretty much a dump. not to mention the fact, that its probably dangerous to walk solo from obsessions to the border or to the other strip clubs. i left obsessions by myself at 2am, and there were a couple of gangs of guys just chilling. both groups eyeballed me and murmured something. the only good thing about obsessions was that there was a girl that fairly new, and i asked how much to bang her in the hotel right across the street. she mumble something about $50 house and whatever i want to give her. i asked her again how much because i didn't hear right, and she said "$100. " i said $50 for the house and $50 for you, she said "yes. " so i was tempted because she seemed really cool and it probably would have been a good experience. i am assuming the price at the club is cheaper. the club told me to negotiate a price with them and the girl would negotiate one also.

afterwards i went to boleros. i was looking for the fiance of that one guy that posts here and other forums. i wanted to give her a good banging before she left the industry. however, i didn't want to specifically ask for her so i just talked to this one that was pretty lean with a great ass. seems like she would be a good fuck. she quoted me $180 for 1 hour in the back rooms (this included the house cut). she seemed to be too professional and probably had worked for a long time, so i decided she wouldn't be a good pound.

afterwards i walked to studio69. by far it is the nicest place in nogales. the place looks better than most usa strip clubs. and there are a couple of girls that are really hot. i found a 9 face, 8 body little spinner that i wanted to bang the [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) out of. at closing time i asked her to give me her e-mail and she went up to the bar to write something down. everybody was leaving the club and two "cholo" looking dudes seemed to be waiting there, almost like looking around overseeing stuff. anyways, so she gives me her e-mail and it looks like she really does want to bang me. but i decide i don't feel comfortable about it and decide to leave. right away she asks the guy that is going to walk me back to the border, "where is he going? " and the guy says, cruzar la frontera. so he starts showing me how to cross the border and says just cross over the train tracks. well the same cholos from the club drive up to me in this car and ask me "where you going. " again, i say "cruzar la frontera. " he nods his head and leaves. i just imagine what the fuck would have happened to me if i had decided to take the 9 to a hotel or if i had decided to stay in a hotel there in mexico.

this was a real scary experience guys. first of all, i am completely bilingual and i am latino. so don't think this is some gringo freaking out or something. i live in el paso and have been to juarez, df, tijuana quite a few times. i have also been all over latin america, including colombia. this is by far the scariest place i have ever been too. i will not be returning to nogales. if you decide to go to nogales i would recommend sticking to boleros and studio69 and do all your business inside the club (even though it will be kind of expensive). even though obsessions is kinda of dumpy, i really don't like walking over there alone at 3am. but i admit that the best prices you are going to get are probably at obsessions.

[Bobbybjack]

Chicaluv.

Yeah, I think the point is made. Around 3am it can get pretty scary in Nogales. The cholos drove up to me at 3:30 am.

Oh and I didn't negotiate the prices at all. I just usually always give $100 because I think that's a fair price, but I won't bang less than an 8 so I usually end up paying more. The girl from obsessions would have definitely banged for 300 pesos and the house would have negotiated down really low. I mean I was the only person at Obsessions for over 2 hours.

So when I was talking to the cute little spinner from studio69, she told me she has a 3 year old boy. She is only 19. She said she was forced to marry a Narco when she was 16 (he was 40+) and that he was killed.

Actually my theory on the whole Narco situation in Mexico is that Gringos have a way higher probability of getting robbed (especially by the cops). But that latinos 100% fluent in Spanish have a higher probability of getting killed. Depending on how I dress, I can really blend into any community in Mexico. I think the narco at studio69 was confirming I was American. Probably didn't want a rival gang banging his girl or working a deal outside the club.

[Vaquero]

One of my friends who crossed over is from New York. So he probably was a little loose with how he dropped his cash. Said some local business guys were telling him to hold back.

He told me he felt a stretch mark on his girl and asked her if she had a kid. She started crying.

I haven't been across the line since the early 2000s. Always liked Lord Blacks. Crossed the border on my own a few times, other times with some biz pals.

I think company is the way to go.

Talked to some local folks recently, said how it might be worth staying at the Americana to walk across the border and come back. Dude suggested I stay at a hotel in Mexico, but his buddy quickly disagreed with that idea.

[Stripper Luv]

i'm the one whose fiancé works at boleiros. a mexican wedding is imminent. to all who want a sweet bang with lucusious tits and ass and the beautiful latina looks, she's still available for a limited time, but not working all the time. she more or less just hangs out at the club socializing with her friends.

but damn, man, even i know not to be on the streets at 3:30 in the morning. all the club managers know me and my fiancé and yet we are home banging our brains out a long time before it gets dicey on the streets. even though i'm a gringo with a mexican, we both know not to tempt fate on the streets or in the clubs after about 2 am. and, i will admit that she has more than once enlisted the aid of some "bodyguards" to escort me to the border and insure my safe passage on those nights that i don't sleep over at her place.

having said that, we have been at after-hour clubs, but once we're there, we stay until daylight.

i might have an advantage because everyone knows my fiancé and, as a result, i get some special consideration because i'm the gringo she's found happiness with after all these years so the locals are all happy for her good fortune and kinda look after us.

chica luv, i'm looking forward to your next visit. you must might be in time for the wedding!






afterwards i went to boleros. i was looking for the fiance of that one guy that posts here and other forums. i wanted to give her a good banging before she left the industry. however, i didn't want to specifically ask for her so i just talked to this one that was pretty lean with a great ass. seems like she would be a good fuck. she quoted me $180 for 1 hour in the back rooms (this included the house cut). she seemed to be too professional and probably had worked for a long time, so i decided she wouldn't be a good pound.

afterwards i walked to studio69. by far it is the nicest place in nogales. the place looks better than most usa strip clubs. and there are a couple of girls that are really hot. i found a 9 face, 8 body little spinner that i wanted to bang the [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113) out of. at closing time i asked her to give me her e-mail and she went up to the bar to write something down. everybody was leaving the club and two "cholo" looking dudes seemed to be waiting there, almost like looking around overseeing stuff. anyways, so she gives me her e-mail and it looks like she really does want to bang me. but i decide i don't feel comfortable about it and decide to leave. right away she asks the guy that is going to walk me back to the border, "where is he going? " and the guy says, cruzar la frontera. so he starts showing me how to cross the border and says just cross over the train tracks. well the same cholos from the club drive up to me in this car and ask me "where you going. " again, i say "cruzar la frontera. " he nods his head and leaves. i just imagine what the fuck would have happened to me if i had decided to take the 9 to a hotel or if i had decided to stay in a hotel there in mexico.

this was a real scary experience guys. first of all, i am completely bilingual and i am latino. so don't think this is some gringo freaking out or something. i live in el paso and have been to juarez, df, tijuana quite a few times. i have also been all over latin america, including colombia. this is by far the scariest place i have ever been too. i will not be returning to nogales. if you decide to go to nogales i would recommend sticking to boleros and studio69 and do all your business inside the club (even though it will be kind of expensive). even though obsessions is kinda of dumpy, i really don't like walking over there alone at 3am. but i admit that the best prices you are going to get are probably at obsessions.

[Chica Luv]

Spent two nights in Nogales. First night spent with one of my favorite strippers from Obessions. I sent her a texted the day before to let her know I was headed to town. She replied that she would meet me at my hotel's bar at 5PM.

We met in the bar, had a drink and then proceeded to the bedroom from some great sex. Several hours later, we showered and headed out for dinner. After dinner, we went to the mall and saw the new Harry Potter movie (in Spanish, I didn't understand most of what the said).

After the movie we headed back to the hotel for more sex and sleep. The next morning we had more sex, showed and then off to breakfast (about 1230PM).

We usually spends 2-3 days together; however, she needed to go home, run some errands and get a change of clothers. Meanwhile, I had decided that I wanted to make the rounds of the other bars and develop some new friendships. So, I told Ms.Obsessions that I wasn't sure if I was staying another night, and that she should make plans to go back to work, instead of spending the night with me.

We parted company and I started making the rounds of the clubs. Of course I was careful to avoid Obsessions.... she has friends there, some of which know me. I didn't want to make my actions and intentions too obvious.

I made the rounds of the two massage palors and the two other clubs (Bolerios and Club 69). I have been out of town for almost three months, and was glad to see some old friends at Bolerios. A couple girls gave me their phone numbers and asked that I call them...soon!

Club 69 was a disappointment. The girls on this particular day-shift were.... well, lets just say, that I wouldn't want to be seen with any one of them. I left there surprised and disappointed!

While I was at Club 69 I received a texted from one of the girls at Bolerios. She wanted to meet after she got off work at 730PM. Of course, I agreed and asked her to meet me at my hotel.

Meanwhile I needed to use up a few hours, so I went by one of the massage palors and arranged to have one of the girls meet me at my hotel in 20 minutes.

I went back to the Hotel Fray Marcos and checked back IN. Twenty minutes later the massage palor manager escorted the girl to my hotel. Of course he asked for the money up front, and of course I told him that I would pay the girl (both hers and his $) after she and I had finished our business. She was very friendly, spoke a little english and I could understand most of what she said in spanish. I had already made the deal with the massage palor manager for 30 minutes of FS in my hotel room for 600pesos (200 for the store and 400 for the girl, so there was no need to talk prices with the girl). As with most of the massage palor girls that I have experienced, she wouldn't do BBBJ, DATY or Kissing... however, CBJ and CFS were good. 45 minutes later and she was on her way.

I still had two hours until Ms. Bolerios was scheduled to show up at my motel, so I decided to walk back accross the border and bring back some Burger King burgers for Ms. Obession and her girl friend. I wanted to let her know that I had decided to stay in town. I figured that she would of course ask if she could come by after work and spend the night.

I returned to the Fray Marcos from delivering my BK run just in time from to catch Ms. Bolerios walking out of the bar, heading home. I was a few minutes late, and she thought I had stood her up. She immediately asked me if I had been to another bar. I replied yes, but only to waste time until she got off from work. I told her that I didn't stay at Bolerios because I didn't want her managers to think that she was leaving or meeting me after work at my hotel.

We proceeded to my room, and had several hours of fun. She is very attractive... all the classic Mexicana features...dark hair, dark eye, olive skin, nicely manicured hands & feet with makeup just sooooo, and stacked like the proverbal Brick Shit House... She was very happy to spend time with me and after a little small talk was even happier to finally get undressed.

Unlike that massage palor girl, she immediately started off with some really HOT DFKing, light biting and scratching, gentle moaning at having her perfect full breast sucked, and then she went right into a SUPER BBBJ. This was followed by some intense DATY, loud moans and "QUE RICO PAPI"... MAS MAS MAS!!!

Of course this all lead to more BBBJ and DFKing, all soon to be followed by lots of CFS, in several positions. She liked it soft and easy, as well as hard and fast.

We had a GREAT time, and she asked if she could come back in the morning prior to her day shift at Bolerios. Of course, the answer was YES... I can't wait.

She left, I took a shower and headed back out to make the rounds of the night-shift ladies at the clubs.

More details on the fun filled next 12 hours to follow......

Trusted members can PM for specific names and additional information.
Chica Luv

[Chica Luv]

let's see..... where did we leave off?

....OK, so I headed back out to make the rounds of the nighshift gals.

First stop Boleiros to check out the nightshift review. VERY nice, lots more girls than the daytime, with some working thru on a double shift.

There is one particular hottie that I've been wanting (not that I don't want them all). Her name is Jessica. Long black hair & eye, NICE B cups and a small waist that setoff a set of HIPs that are nothing short of Award Winning. Now try as I may, I have never been able to get much play out of her. Oh yeh, if I've got a dollar in my hand she is all about taking it.... but as soon as my Peso-nality runs out, so does she.

She isn't interested in giving me her phone number or meeting outside of the club for some extra cash. I'm not even sure that paying her bar fine would get her to participate....

Oh, I feel soooo rejected :-((( What is a man to do? NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!

In an effort to ease the rejection, I ordered another drink. Luckily several ladies wanted to expression their appreciation and say thanks for the BK burgers from the night before. In the end two ladies gave me their phone numbers and ask that call them sooooon.

The gals on the 69 night shift were, let's just say, Night & Day different. Wow, there were some HOT ladies on the night shift. Biggest problem is that there is a lot of what I would call Gangster money hanging around. Of course these guys are running in packs and spending $$$ like they had stolen or killed for it... maybe they had. In the end, a bargin hunter CODA tightwad like myself can't (and won't) compete. So off again, back to Boleiros and then to Obsessions.

Finally at Obsession, Ms.O ask me if she could come spend the night when she got off. I said of course, but that I had to leave early the next morning. All the while knowing that Ms.B from the night before was scheduled to stop by prior to her returning to her day shift.

I continued touring for several more hours and finally at 1AM decided to give Ms.O my room key and head in early for a nap. Figured I'd get a little rest prior to her arrival at 2-2:30.

Well 2, 2:30, 3, 3:30, 4AM arrives and so does Ms.O I was PISSED! For those of us who know, when these girls get off at 2AM and don't show up until 4AM.... Well figure it out... they were doing their hair. Now this isn't the first time this gal has pulled this shit. Not that I don't mind her making the cash and servicing other guys... that is her source of income. But come on, don't suck some guys dick and have him pounding your ass minutes before you have planned to see me. WTF

Well she shows up, lets herself in, craws into bed.... then wants to start kissing me.... I DON'T THINK SO!!! I tell her that a BBBJ will work just fine, and then afterward tell her that I've got to leave in a couple hours and that we need to get some sleep.

Next morning I get up early and get ready, she awakes an ask if what I was doing up soooo early. I reminded her that I had to leave early (yeh, leave her company so Ms.B could show up prior to her day shift). So she gets ready and we head out.

No breakfast, she says. Don't have time (and I'm still pissed). Kiss on the cheek and we part ways.

I head around the corner get coffee & breakfast, and wait Ms.Bs text. Bout the time I'm finishing BK, Ms.B text arrives telling me that she can't make it... some BS at her house. It is always something. I know this, so it is never a problem.

I call my friends in AZ and tell them that I CAN in fact make it to Thanksgiving at their house for some home cooking....

More after thanksgiving adventures when I return two days later.
Have Fun,,, you only get one chance
Chica Luv

I always share additional details with trusted members...PM

[Chica Luv]

Dash III Post Thanksgiving Tour (late post due to other out-of-town adventures. See Mexicali and Algodones)

Returned to the Promised Land as planned. More or less.

Didn't return to Nogales until late Friday afternoon, as I was scheduled to have a meeting with one of the Tucson providers (Kanya Li) sometime between 12-4PM. She had promised to whip up some special crème for my after-thanksgiving pumpkin pie. Or was it her pie. Never the less, most of these girls are the same. Both N & S of the Border. Just as the wind chance directions, they are likely to stand you up. Such was the case with KL.

I arrive back for my later-than-usual early shift scratch-and-sniff tour of the clubs. Had my mind still set of linking back up with Ms. B, who failed to make our breakfast meeting, so Boleiros was my first stop. She was there, along with several other BugerKing Want-A-Be diners. Sadly, Ms. B was working a double shift. I. E. She wasn't going to be available until 2AM.

What's a man to do. . (. NEXT!

As luck would have it Ms. B-2 WAS getting off in just a few hours and wanted to meet me at the Hot-Spot. Now, I had seen Ms. B-2 last year (on several occasions') and knew EXACTLY what to expect from her. WOW. Pack a lunch and take your vitamins! This girl can and will hurt you if she is in the moods to do so!

So, I continued touring the bars for another two hours, making new contacts and re-affirming others. Finally 730PM arrives and Ms. B-2 texted me to confirm that her Hot-Tight-Stripper Ass-&-Attached part were in fact all on their way to meet me in my hotel bar. . ETA 8PM.

NOTE to Self: ALWAYs, Always have the girl meet you in the bar or lobby. Never, never, never give them you room number or KEY (no, I don't always remember to read my notes to self). An example of WHY this is so important to follow.

8PM Ms. B-2 arrives in bar and we have a drink. She relaxes, has a couple shots, and I get to gage what kind of mood she is in. Hopefully. (:-0. And she is looooooking soooooo HOT. The lipstick she is leaving on her glass is almost more than I can bear. We take the last round to GOOOOO with us to the room.

Ms. B-2 does not disappoint. As a matter of fact she IS in ONE of those MOODs. We flow from one passionate entanglement into another for over an hour and a half. Ms. B-2 out does herself and is totally UGFE. This woman is looking for a FULLY funded Scholarship, and with her game she is sure to find one. WOW WOW WOW.

Ms. B-2 and I shower and she leaves about 10PM. I walk her down and out to a taxi. I always walk the ladies down and out to a taxi. I want them to think & know that they are my girls' friends & I will treat them as such. All of them.

I am in need of some energy. So I head up the street to my favorite 'Pero's Caliente' hot dog street vender. Like my girls he know what I like, make me two with con ToDo, I knock them back with a Coca Light chaser. Recharged, I am off to the races, and to start my tour of the Night-Shift girls.

Now, I know that Ms. B & I are scheduled to link up at 2AM when she gets off, so I head by Boleiros to tighten up her G-String dances with a few dollars and to make sure we are still on for 2AM. We are and I make the rounds of the other clubs.

I pass through all the clubs several times over the next four hours, talking with different girls. Some old friends and some possible new friends. During my trek, I notice that Boleiros & Ms. B seem pretty busy. Good for them I say. However, when a girl has too much business, it sometimes makes them forget appointments. Funny how that works.

Armed with this knowledge, I pass through Boleiros one last time on my way back to my hotel at about 1:50AM to confirm that Ms. B & I are still ON for 2AM. Low and behold. Ms. B is no were to be found. I figure some guy probably has her down stairs for a private dance. So I head on back, but send her a texted on the way to my hotel.

Now, I've been down this proverbial dead-end road before and if nothing else have learned this one thing."A man without a plan, is a man that ends up with his gland in his OWN hand."

As much as I do like myself, that is not my plan for this weekend. So on the way back to my room, I develop plan B. I stop by Obsessions, see a new little hottie that I've spoken with but have never entertained. I tell my inside contact-man to arrange to have her meet me at my hotel at 2:25AM. He texted me at 2:10 to tell me that it is game-on and that Ms. O-2 with arrive NLT 2:25AM.

Well, at 2:20AM Ms. B sends me a texted that she is on her way to my hotel. NOW, I'm standing in the hotel lobby and have fully briefed the night desk clerk & the front doorman / elevator operator about the gravity of time within this Op. Plan. These guys are my BUDDIES, plus I ALWAYS tip them (every day) and bring them Peros Caliente when they are on the late night shifts.

The briefing go like this. The first girl that show up, goes up. The late one to the door doesn't get in and no one (these two guys) knows anything other than to say that I got tired of waiting and SADDLY went up to bed. ALL ALONE.

And that is how is played out. Ms. O-2 showed first and we went up. Ms. B showed up 45 minutes later (refer back to earlier post as to why these girls show up late.) and got the scripted briefing from my FRONT men.

MORE DETAILS IN FOLLOW ON POST. Yes, it does get better.

[Michael Rollin]

Just crossed back over from Nogales, First trip Nogales, Mongerd Juarez, an Laredo.

I was alone, crossed about 9:30 pm, walked a ciircle for a couple of blocks and ended up at Obsessions. I ignored hustlers coming and going, gave them nothing. Liked Obssesions. Bought drinks for 2 20year old girls, not at same time. Both 10 face. 9 body. Just a liittle gut, but fine. Took one to room, fold out bed with toilet room, cost 120 dollars. 1 hour no rush, no knock. The pretty young girl worked hard for her money. I could have brought cost down, but she was cute so I did not push it, and she gave GFE, name nele I think, can't remember the other cute young girls name. Like to get Hotel room next time and bring girl to room, talked to girl and handler or what ever the pimp in club was, they said cool. Was trying to push me on the other girl too, was tempted to go to atm and cross back for her. Maybe next time, as long as they have cute 20 year olds, that put their heart into service / sex. I will be back.

Also I felt very safe, but did not circle but a cpuple of blocks cross border, and crossed back around Midnight or shortley just after. A few drinks, cute young chica, good sex, good night.

[Mr Evans]

Heading south into Mexico on business. Passing through Nogales approximately noon tomorrow (Sat.). Any advice for quick mongering options this time of day?

Thanks in advance.

[Chica Luv]

For quickest action. Not the cheapest, but still within reason:

1-Cross border (in vehicle) , turn right at first street, turn right at nexted street, end of block is Obsessions, park and go in. Check out the girls, find one to you linking, bargin she & management down to $.2 or less for one hour FS in their back room.

2-If none of these girls ask someone how to get to Boleiros & Club 69. Go through the same process.

3-Still not happy of $.2 is too much money, go to massage palor 1 block west and approx 2 blocks south of Obsessions. View girls. Finding one you like; make a deal with the manager. Usually 200pesos to management & 400pesos to girl. Tell manager what you want prior to entering room with girl. Do not pay manager or girl until ALL agreed upon services have been rendered. Do the deed, pay the girl, pay the management, and head out.

Good luck,

CL.


Heading south into Mexico on business. Passing through Nogales approximately noon tomorrow (Sat.). Any advice for quick mongering options this time of day?

Thanks in advance.

[TomTravelin]

Guys. I had to go to Tucson for business and so I RTFF about Nogales. I got here (Az side) last night, but the hotel people said I was crazy going in at night for the first time to Mexico and not able to speak Spanish. So I called it an early evening because I couldn't find any info about US side border "cantina bars" with women available.

I'm headed in today about noon and will report back how it goes. I've never been to Mexico, but have been to Central America just to tour and accidentally discovered the super low pricing in that region. Reports on here about Mexico border town pricing is insane to me. I like the thrill of cheap prices and selection, not paying US stripper money. If the drug cartels are driving up prices, I'll go someplace else. Funny how the Asian countries have handled this correctly, maintained selection, managed pricing and made a fortune for decades.

I'm following the $60 MAX rule and the Mon-Wed rule (CL and Lobo advice if I read correctly). I'll skip the handlers, but may see if an English speaking older one wants to get my business with a $50 for all hard line.

Feedback / Advice?

[BeTwo4030]

Thank you Chica Luv for all you post!

Is there any maps of Nogales showing where the clubs are? Thanks for the help.


For quickest action. Not the cheapest, but still within reason:

1-Cross border (in vehicle) , turn right at first street, turn right at nexted street, end of block is Obsessions, park and go in. Check out the girls, find one to you linking, bargin she & management down to $.2 or less for one hour FS in their back room.

2-If none of these girls ask someone how to get to Boleiros & Club 69. Go through the same process.

3-Still not happy of $.2 is too much money, go to massage palor 1 block west and approx 2 blocks south of Obsessions. View girls. Finding one you like; make a deal with the manager. Usually 200pesos to management & 400pesos to girl. Tell manager what you want prior to entering room with girl. Do not pay manager or girl until ALL agreed upon services have been rendered. Do the deed, pay the girl, pay the management, and head out.

Good luck,

CL

[2nd Chance]

Maybe this will help you. It's not a complete map. A collaborative "work in progress". The Nogales locations are at the end. Follow link to the map, go to street view and you can see the locations.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=211523476153759747574.000494bd356601aa1ffbb

Enjoy. Feel free to PM me with things to add to the map.

[BeTwo4030]

My PM does not work on this board but I will try you on the Arizona board.

Thanks again.


Maybe this will help you. It's not a complete map. A collaborative "work in progress". The Nogales locations are at the end. Follow link to the map, go to street view and you can see the locations.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=211523476153759747574.000494bd356601aa1ffbb

Enjoy. Feel free to PM me with things to add to the map.

[BeTwo4030]

I thought the Guau, Miau Miau / Route 13 and TD's were all in Rocky point?

[2nd Chance]

My PM does not work on this board but I will try you on the Arizona board.

Thanks again. If you don't have PM Privileges yet, feel free to post info right here. Just be informative so everyone can benefit from your words of wisdom. .

[2nd Chance]

I thought the Guau, Miau Miau / Route 13 and TD's were all in Rocky point?They may be there, as well. Maybe the same owner. Not sure.

[Lobo 003]

There is no Guau or Miau Miau in Nogales where do you guys get your info. Obsessions, Boleiros and Studio 69 is all there is for strip jonts in Nogales Sonora.

Update and Caution: 3 patrons were gunned down in the restrooms and killed in Boleiros about 2 weeks ago, I'm told a drug related hit.

Be safe...

LOBO

[BeTwo4030]

As posted on the sister site there was a shooting in a club in Nogales a couple weeks ago.

http://www.nogalesinternational.com/articles/2010/12/31/news/breaking_news/doc4d1e18b72fc8c159112622.txt

I was there last night and left Club 69 cause of high spending locals. But everyone was right. 69 had seven women that ranged 9-10 on my Viagra meter! Also stopped at Td's and was not impressed. Six girls working there just not my type. Three of which were a little heavy and one who could grow a better beard than my young ass.

Be safe and watch out.

[Lobo 003]

First Sudio 69 at the moment does have the hottest women around in the Nogi scene. A lot of new consruction on Calle Obregon that is almost done. It's turning out very clean looking, with less auto traffic and designed for more pedestrian traffic.

REST OF THE STORY:

What they left out of the story for the 3 dead patrons is that those gentleman were in rival territory buying the happy white powder. They contacted a street thug who then promptly aquired said narcotics and told them to meet in Boleiros for delivery. The 3 gentleman sat down to party in Boleiros, downed a few beers to have a good time and played with the girls. Upon arrival of their package they made their way to the restroom for delivery, inspection and payment of merchandise, once delivery transpired and trasaction complete hit men entered with orders to terminate said buyers. They were terminated in the restrooms of Boleiros and the assailants fled.

Be very careful in Nogi.

LOBO

[AmanteDeLatina]

REST OF THE STORY:

What they left out of the story for the 3 dead patrons is that those gentleman were in rival territory buying the happy white powder. They contacted a street thug who then promptly aquired said narcotics and told them to meet in Boleiros for delivery. The 3 gentleman sat down to party in Boleiros, downed a few beers to have a good time and played with the girls. Upon arrival of their package they made their way to the restroom for delivery, inspection and payment of merchandise, once delivery transpired and trasaction complete hit men entered with orders to terminate said buyers. They were terminated in the restrooms of Boleiros and the assailants fled.

LOBOThat is crazy. What if one happenned to be using the restroom as they came in? Even if you had nothing to do with the transaction they would have killed you so that you would not be a witness. You could be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

This is why I no longer go to Nogales. It is on the federal governments do not travel list along with Tijuana, Cuidad Juarez, Matamoros and Reynosa. I now go to Los Algodones and Mexicali. Those 2 cities are not on the no travel list and are much more safer. In my opinion those 2 cites are just as safe as the city I live in, Tempe, Arizona as you can tell from my handle (Tempe is a suburb of Phoenix, Az). The action is a lot cheaper in those places too and the women are just as good if not better.

The cities on the no travel list are on major drug arteries to the United States. Since Nogales is close to that interstate that goes up to Tucson and has connections to Phoenix the drug traffickers tend to like it to hang out. The Los Algones and Mexicali border crossings are sort of out in the middle of nowhere. No major cities bordering them and not super close to interstates that are of interest to drug traffickers. Also, since these two cities have A LOT of medical providers (in Los Algodones I swear there are 5 dentist offices and 5 pharmacies on every square block, Mexicali has a lot of physicians that perform surgical procedures at the fraction of the cost in the United States, I actually had surgery there for a third of the cost that a doctor here in the Phoenix area would have charged) the Mexican government patrols them a lot more. They are strategic to the economy of Mexico. Also, the medical providers have all gotten together and hired private security forces to keep the cities safe because if americans go down there for inexpensive medical procedures and get killed it would sour there business. I would recommend avoiding Nogales and going to Los Algodones or Mexicali until this drug trafficking issues gets under control. This is my opinion.

[Marelobo Mex]

Tijuana,

I agree with you, I don't really consider myself a Chicken Sh. I have been to many cities that people say are not safe, and never really felt scared. Maybe the media is messing with me or I am getting old or something. I but I have learned from experience if I feel scared to trust my feeling and get the hell out of there. It saved me from a major knife fight in the slums of Istanbul in 1996.

I have been in that bathroon in Boleros many times. And although I really wanted to go to Nogales on this trip, I opted for the safer option in Mexicali and don't regret that decision.

Although I do hope some braver men then me visit Nogales and report on it re-emerging as a safe place. I have a real craving for Chicas from Nogles.

Marelobo

[BeTwo4030]

Even though I left Club 69 early, I still found time to hit Eros Spa and Meet a Beautiful girl named Ruby (nineteen. 4'10".90 pounds, with some awesome perky B's!). There were seven girls working that night. I thought this was a lot for a Thursday but what the hell I was a Nogales virgin. Room fee of $40 and full Paid to Ruby for $80. She wanted $120 but I pulled the old Gringo trick of all I have (in this pocket) is $80. And I know what all you Nogales salty dogs are saying: Dummy could have got her for a bunch less on a Thursday. She was JUST the reason I headed down there (A Very Young Looking Mexican Hottie). She was not very GFE in phoenix terms but she definitely did the trick.

Holly [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) was it cold!

[BeTwo4030]

Has anyone had any luck with a charter van or bus to Nogales? Just wondering with the price of fuel if anyone had taken or know where these type pick up and drop off.

[Lobo 003]

A shuttle service is available in Tucson and their fee used to be about 7 dollars one way. They are the passenger window vans you see running up and down I-19 usually white, to nogales and back to Tucson and cater to the hispanic community with no means of transportation. They will pick you up at your address and on the return trip deliver you back to your residence. Most offices are located on south 6th avenue and south 12th avenue in tucson. In Nogales Arizona offices are located across the street from the GreyHound bus station, right before you walk down the stairs toward the port of entry
Only drawback, last van back to Tucson is about 7 or 8 pm, no late night service
I'm sure Phoenix has the same service. Some of those vans say service to Phoenix.

This little service has helped out many of my friends from both cultures.

Be safe.

LOBO

[Chica Luv]

FYI.

I visited Nogales twice in the last 10 days. The first was a Sunday & Monday, and the second was a Friday & Saturday.

I was disappointed in both visits! The streets were empty, fewer girls in the clubs, fewer customers in the clubs, and the total atmosphere had changed. Also, the MAJORITY of the customers were Mexican, and in 4-8 man groups. I. E. Drug guys on their nights off (at least that was the impression I got).

I still had fun, but not at the level that I had become use to. Will I go back? Yes, but my expectations will be much lower.

With the way things are in Nogales, it almost makes more economic sense to see someone off BP and not have to put up with all the other Nogales BS.

CL

[AmanteDeLatina]

You can also go to either Los Algodones or Mexicali. The do not seem to have as much of this BS.


FYI.

With the way things are in Nogales, it almost makes more economic sense to see someone off BP and not have to put up with all the other Nogales BS.

CL

[Chica Luv]

Ok, Ok, Ok. So yes, I have been down to Nogales several times since my last post, and yes there is still fun to be had.

My latest "haired-brained" idea.

As many of you that have read many of my posts over the months know, I have an ATF whose names is Ms. O Usually, whenever I go down she tries spending the night with me, and will continue staying with me until I tell her otherwise.

While this can be fun, it DOES cut down on my ability to experience new and different girls. So, I usually don't let her know I am in town for at least a day after I have arrive, or I tell her that I am not staying more than one night.

Oh ok, back to the HBI. Staying and Playing in Nogales is NOT as cheap as one might be lead to believe.

Let us do the math:

1- One night stay at the Fray Marcos $675. 00 pesos, approx $56. 00-60. 00US.

2- 800. 00 pesos (approx $66. 00-70. 00US) per girl / per hour. X2 per day. These are your top of the line strippers and not some girl that one of the local street guys promises to be the best you've ever had (although, at times some of those girls have been GREAT, but you never know until the show up and take off their cloths).

3-Daily eats approx $22. 00US.

4-Daily Bar tab. 1 drink per bar / per round / per shift. Confused yet? Drinks are $3-4. 00US (Club 69 will try to charge you $4. 00 per drink on the weekend during the second shift. Go figure). So doing the math, a day of clubbing 3 clubs. 1 drink per club, per hour for two shifts (six hours clubbing for two different shifts=12 hours) $3. 00X12=$36. 00.

SUBTOTAL.

$246. 00 per day. If you don't have more than one drink per club per hour, or tip anyone, or buy a girl a drink, or get a private dance. OH. Almost forgot, add $8. 00 a day to park you car on the US side and better throw in at least an extra $12. 00 a day for tips. Least everyone in Nogales knows you as the Cheap Guy.

$266. 00 A DAY! WOW. Did I say, WOW!

Now I usually like to stay for three days. X3= $798. 00 for a "Cheap Three Day" stay in Nogales. Now if you do this say once a week. Yes I have had those months, actually several of those months in a row, and the doing the math. It all adds up. 4 weeks@$798. 00 a week for the month. $3, 192. 00.

Now, there has got to be a better way!

So this brings us ALL-THE-WAY back around to my HBI.

! Rent an apartment! Not only rent an apartment, but have your ATF stripper live in the apartment you rent.

YES, there is more to the story.

During one of my ATF extended stays, lets say day two, and while we were having breakfast (1230PM). I asked her how much she pays in living expenses and taxi cost in order to work in Nogales (her family lives in a different city). After doing the math, we were both shocked at the number approx. $70, 000. 00 pesos per year.

I told her that I would rent a US a nice apartment within walking distance of her club and that she could live there for "FREE". And that by living there she would be saving 70K a year.

So, what is in it for me. I think we all know the answer to that. FREE. Well, nothing is free, but at least it will save me about $2, 772. 00 a month. Oh yea, least we forget, need to figure the cost of the apartment. Approx $300. 00US a month.

I am only saving $2472. 00 (plus or minus, if you deduct for a little strange. Every now and again). Of course over the period of a year. That is almost $30, 000. 00US.

Now, I know that there are probably lots of holes in this plan, but that is where you guys that can also think with their big heads come into the picture.

Ok, guys let's hear it.

Chica Luv

[Lj Mexico]

Chica Love, I want to thank you for your posts over the past year.

And yes, you are correct about prices in Nogales, when I first started going down south about four years ago, (one weekend every month) , I was spending about $100 to $500 a night, between driving down, drinks for my friends and the girls, hotel / motel, massages, and food.

But that was a long time ago and a different me when I couldn't speak Spanish and had a beer gut, since then I can speak the language and have large muscles all around (thanks to Spanish classes, traveling throughout MX, the gym and no-explode)

Now, on a good night, I barely spend $50 a night,

Here's how. $ 2 bus ticket ($1 each way, from phoenix, (www.crucero-usa.com) , I usually meet up with one of two of my best friends (I've know one for four years and the other for two years) that live in nogales, sonora, these guys are connected w / the WHOLE CITY, we never pay to get into any strip club or night clubs, beers are always $1 to $2 dollars a pop, mostly always $1, I was always use to paying $3 to $4 at any strip club (69, obsession, belaidos, Lust) but since the past two years I have never paid more then $1 at any of these clubs for a tecate light or red.

I almost always pick up a girl at a bar called Bora Bora (on Obregon st, one block away from obsession, a bar where they have some of the most beautiful girls around town. 18 to 28 why. O, from 4 to 8. 5's) or one of the 10 night clubs past the border on obregon st all the way down south for FREE.

Taxi rides to any destination in nogales is never more then 50 peso (about $4)

Both friends have a brand new house / townhouse; one on the far west side and one on east side of town about a mile from the border and I have my own room at both there houses for free, w / my own bed, their wife's / girlfriends always cook breakfast for me in the morning and hook me up w / there girlfriends

I am not bragging about the prices or how easy it is to pick up a girl down south, I was just like you guys always paying for pussy, but what I am trying to say is learn spanish, work out, learn some game and I promise any guy can get some tail down south. (and trust me if I could do it ANYONE can)

My motivation was Mexico and all the beautiful women I was missing out on (I've been all over the world Russia, Middle East, Europe, every state in inland America (except the northwest) , and I have to say, no women can compare to Latin women, passionate, caring, loving.) (don't get me wrong, I do not like nogales at all, I think it is dirty, drug addicts, and gold diggers all over, I love any city south of Hermosillo, anyone who has any balls should travel all the way down to tepic nayarit and experience the real Mexico)

Also, I want to thank the U. S Media for scaring off all the gringos out of visiting Mexico and leaving all the chicas bonitas for me. Hope everyone has fun and stays Safe down South.

[Chica Luv]

LjMex.

Thanks for your post. I couldn't agree more with all that you shared. I too have been trying to learn Spanish over the last year. Although far from fluent, I've improved enough to communicate as to what I am looking for.

I too love all things (women) Latin, and hope to some day own a house somewhere WAY south of the border. Say Puebla.

Speaking of Bora Bora, I had my first experience with one of those hot little gals just three nights ago. Does the name Naty sound familiar? She was definitely a "Morena de Fuego"

Next time you head down, send me a PM and I'll give you my TelCel.

Chica Luv.


Chica Love, I want to thank you for your posts over the past year.

And yes, you are correct about prices in Nogales, when I first started going down south about four years ago, (one weekend every month) , I was spending about $100 to $500 a night, between driving down, drinks for my friends and the girls, hotel / motel, massages, and food.

But that was a long time ago and a different me when I couldn't speak Spanish and had a beer gut, since then I can speak the language and have large muscles all around (thanks to Spanish classes, traveling throughout MX, the gym and no-explode)

Now, on a good night, I barely spend $50 a night,

Here's how. $ 2 bus ticket ($1 each way, from phoenix, (

www.crucero-usa.com

) , I usually meet up with one of two of my best friends (I've know one for four years and the other for two years) that live in nogales, sonora, these guys are connected w / the WHOLE CITY, we never pay to get into any strip club or night clubs, beers are always $1 to $2 dollars a pop, mostly always $1, I was always use to paying $3 to $4 at any strip club (69, obsession, belaidos, Lust) but since the past two years I have never paid more then $1 at any of these clubs for a tecate light or red.

I almost always pick up a girl at a bar called Bora Bora (on Obregon st, one block away from obsession, a bar where they have some of the most beautiful girls around town. 18 to 28 why. O, from 4 to 8. 5's) or one of the 10 night clubs past the border on obregon st all the way down south for FREE.

Taxi rides to any destination in nogales is never more then 50 peso (about $4)

Both friends have a brand new house / townhouse; one on the far west side and one on east side of town about a mile from the border and I have my own room at both there houses for free, w / my own bed, their wife's / girlfriends always cook breakfast for me in the morning and hook me up w / there girlfriends

I am not bragging about the prices or how easy it is to pick up a girl down south, I was just like you guys always paying for pussy, but what I am trying to say is learn spanish, work out, learn some game and I promise any guy can get some tail down south. (and trust me if I could do it ANYONE can)

My motivation was Mexico and all the beautiful women I was missing out on (I've been all over the world Russia, Middle East, Europe, every state in inland America (except the northwest) , and I have to say, no women can compare to Latin women, passionate, caring, loving.) (don't get me wrong, I do not like nogales at all, I think it is dirty, drug addicts, and gold diggers all over, I love any city south of Hermosillo, anyone who has any balls should travel all the way down to tepic nayarit and experience the real Mexico)

Also, I want to thank the U. S Media for scaring off all the gringos out of visiting Mexico and leaving all the chicas bonitas for me. Hope everyone has fun and stays Safe down South.

[Lj Mexico]

LMAO, I know Naty (real name: Natalia) , she's offered me the pussy every time I see her but my sisters name is Natalie and I just couldn't do it (you know what I mean; too similar) , I heard she give an incredible BJ from my friend who takes gingos on sex tours thru out nogales.

You know what I find amazing about these girls who work at bars like Bora Bora, they almost always start out clean (meaning they don't fuck on the first night {free or money} and no way in hell will she come back home w / me or any of my friends, even if we throw some money her way, absolutely NOT.

But after about a year working there, about 99% of them end up giving it up just like Naty, I just find it shocking how one year working at these places changes a girls morals, beliefs, and values.

I just want to tell you why I really love mexico, (besides all the bonitas that I get) the hospitality, I never met any culture where a total stranger you would meet one night & invite you to his house to eat and sleep, meet his family, literally take the shirt off his back and give it to you

Let me give you an example, My friend and I have been going to this one town next to guaymas Sonora for about the past year four times in total for about a total of 20 days, it's a small town about 2 to 3 thousand people, everyone in the whole town knows who we are, and they love us, from old to the young; the last time I was there for the carnival, the community got together and gave us each a lot in there town for free, (lot = 25x75 meters) 3 miles from the beach, right on the main road, to build a house (but the only rule was that we couldn't build a bar or strip club there LOL) , every time we stay there we have never paid for a place to sleep or eat, everything was free and no one excepted anything in return, that is what shocks me.

Chica luv, we have probably seen / met each other in one of the clubs but don't know that we get on this website

[Chica Luv]

Ok so I was in N. For about 36 hours the other day, and too much crazy shit was going on.

I arrived late. Way late, @0210AM, just as all the bars were closing. Consequently, I arrange link up with any of my usually gals prior to closing time. So, I headed out to some of the local bars in hopes of meeting a new FRIEND.

As luck would have it, that is just what happened. I ran into a gal from the bar Bora Bora as she was heading home. We chatted a bit, struck a deal and headed up to my room. She was a hot little gal and we had a great time. By the time she left it was 0530AM and I was out for the count.

As is my routine, I was up by noon and headed for breakfast. Soon after BK I started on my tours of the clubs. Most of the dayshift was slow, but at one of my favorite spots I ran into some of my old friends. We had a few drinks and one of my OLD friends introduced me to one of her coworkers / girlfriends (know hereafter as GF#1). To make a long story shorter, I got her phone number and scheduled an appointment for 1000AM the next morning (1. 5 hours prior to her going to work).

Also while I was there, I made an additional appointment with one of my ATF. We agreed that she would come by my hotel after her shift today at 730PM. ATF#3.

So with two scheduled, I was free to tour the other clubs and check-in my other friends and try to meet new ones.

By this time it was about 3PM and I headed over to Obsessions. Most of my ATF's were off, so I set about trying to meet a few new ones. And I did. There were several (4) gals sitting near the back eating pizza, and as I approached one asked if I'd like to eat with them. Of course being the gentleman that I am, I accepted her invitation. I had one slick and made small talk for a few minutes. As I got up to leave I told them that next time I was in, I would buy the pizza. Now, none of these 4 gals would ever make it to the A Team, but they were nice and I would buy them pizza at some time in the future.

So, I head off two the other two bars. First was Boleros.

Now Boleros is starting to be a BIG PAIN IN MY ASS, or at least Alejandro (here after known as Mr. A, the older man that works the front door during the day shift, the guy that always wears the same black crushed velvet velour-looking shirt. Day in and day out).

Now on my way into Bolerios, Mr. A stops me and tells me that I need to pay a $4. 00 dollar cover charge. Of course, I think he is BSing me and I start around him. He steps in front of me and DEMANDS $4. We have this long discussion that ends in me asking to speak to the owner. Of course, the owner tells the old man to FO and I get in for free. MORE on Mr. A and his BS later.

Anyway, I make the rounds of the clubs and confirm a few numbers. Then after several hours back to the hotel and get ready for ATF#3 to show up 730-0800PM.

Ms. ATF#3 shows up and immediately begins giving me the best BBBJ. She is OUTSTANDING in many areas of adult entertainment, but EXPECIALLY great at the BBBJ. She loves to swallow my diamond cutter. The words Deep Throat don't even begin to describe the talents this gal has. She loves to DT Chica-Lito and while doing grind her chin on my nut-sack.

After about 20 minutes of this ball-bobbing behavior, Ms. ATF#3 stops just long enough to ask "Tu quieres mas o sexo?" Of course, I had to tell her to PLEASE keep doing what she was doing.

Ms. ATF#3 is great in all areas of Male-Pleasurement. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, Multiple POS.

Not to bore anyone, but we enjoyed one another for about 1. 5 hours. Afterward, we took showers. I gave Ms. ATF#3some SPECIAL after shower body oil for her lightly tanned skin. She loved it. While she was lathering her brown body with this sexy oil, she commented as to just how much she loved sucking on my tasty Member. I was surprised. Were did that come from?

We parted company and I began my tour of the night shift at the clubs. Nothing too special. I did however meet a gal from one of the local (non-strip) clubs. She promised to come over when she gets off at 5AM. Long story short, at 6AM I finally fell asleep, alone. I was both relieved and pissed at the same time.

4 hours later at 1000 at GF#1 meets me in the hotel restaurant for BK. We eat, talk and then head up to my room. This is our first time together. Always a little strange. We both seemed to enjoy our hour together. Now she won't ever make the A Team, but she will make it as a backup.

By now it's about 1230, and time for hotel checkout. I decided to head home early, as I had an appointment to me a fellow member back down in Nogales in a couple days.

There will be MORE interesting info on the PIZZA GIRL and Mr. A in my next post.

Chica Luv

[Chica Luv]

NOGALES.

I arrived there at approx. 3:30PM, only to find that several of my favorite girls were out of town. No, problem. As you should ALWAYS have an alternate plan.

-got my boots shined for 20pesos.

-4:00PM got laid at the smaller of the two Massage parlors. 200pesos to the house & 400pesos to the girl. Next time I will have the house manager bring the girl to my hotel room (same pricing). If the girl has a cell phone, I get her # and keep the management fee for myself. Girl gave good CBJ (I usually only get BBBJ, but wanted to have FS with this gals, as I had had a PRIVATE dance with her 1. 5 years ago when she danced at Club 69. So I REALLY wanted to fuck her. Good CBJ w / ball, shaft & ass licking followed by CG. She said she needed some lube, so when she lay back down I decided it was time for DATY.

WOW, she LOVED it! Lots of thrashing, moaning, trembling. Etc. After a while she said that she couldn't TAKE any more DATY, so I immediately mounted her and they fun and vocals continued. Overall, one of the best times I've ever had with a Massage Girl.

Toured the clubs and "thought" I had a gal lined up for when she got off the day shift at 8PM. 8,830, 850PM no-show from the club girl. However, as luck would have it, I was standing out in front of my hotel, talking on my cell, waiting for the No-Show girl when I was approached by another girl that I had known (in an adult way). She was on her way to work (at a club). She was early and just wanted to say Hello. I asked if she had the desire & time to spend a few moments with me in my hotel room. YES, she said with a smile. Off we went and 600pesos later she was on her way to work. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, FS.

Again, toured the clubs and ran into one of me ATF. She came over after she got off work at 2:30AM, and spent the night. No more details need on that great experience as it is always the same great time with her. We ordered room service coffee at 1030AM, had sex (again) , showered and headed down for chow (I had breakfast food and she had lunch) at 1230.

Afterward, I headed back to the Nogales USA Wal-Mart to exchange (size wise) an inexpensive ($12. 00) PJ (shorts & tank top) sleep-set that I had bought for her.

ALL TOLD in less than 24 hours: 3 gals. 4 rounds of sex (2 w / ATF. 1 w / new friend. 1 w / old friend).

Yes, NOGALES can still be fun.

Chica Luv

[LadiesOfNogales]

Went down to Nogales last Saturday and started off at Obsessions. Checked out and met a few new chicas (mostly 6-7 range) Not too much going on. Took some pics for the site and decided to head off to the sister bar Club 69 located across the tracks.

Club 69 had a few new chicas as well, bought some drinks for two 19 whyear old hotties, they were in town from Sinaloa and said that they were probably going to head back home. DARN! Took them to eat dinner Sunday before heading back across at a quaint Chinese restaurant a stones' throw away near casino Nogales. Stayed around looking for some SG's to get some new pics and found one of our regulars. Perla was hot as salsa and we took some amazing photos and vids of her and our amigo Chuy.

Stopped off and chatted with some other SG's in and around Colonia Buenas Aires and Virreyes who said business has been down the past few weeks and told me that they were beginning to negotiate their rates a bit (One of the biggest concerns of our Mongers) Made appointments to get some shots of them to post to the site. These were typical chicas not strippers, kind of new to the scene and not all that bad as far as looks are concerned.

Looking forward to getting some new content next week and hopefully meeting up with some of the new chicas coming in from Vallarta and Sinaloa.

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[Ramher]

ALL TOLD in less than 24 hours: 3 gals. 4 rounds of sex (2 w / ATF. 1 w / new friend. 1 w / old friend).

Yes, NOGALES can still be fun.

Chica LuvShit! How do you do it? You must either be a teenager or have a special diet. What is you secret?

Ramher

[Guidos]

Hey guys,

Anyone been to Nogi in awhile? Has it been safe as of late?

Thanks!

Guidos!

[Septim22]

Dropped by Nogales this week in the afternoon. I thought I'the stop by obsessions and see how it was, but about a block away one of the hawkers stopped me. He said his name was Francisco or maybe Fredrico. Anyway, he said he worked for Obsessions and that I shouldn't go, since one of the girls there has aids. He asked me not to tell anyone maybe five or six times. I am sure he was full of shit, since I knew what would come next.

He said he had a girl named Kathy that I should hook up with. I told him what I was looking for and he said she was perfect. We took a taxi to pick her up, I would have rather waited for her to come to us.

She was about a 7 but good enough for me. We agreed to 130 for 1 and a half hours. She didn't speak a word of English, so I had the hawker ask her questions to make sure I was getting what I wanted. Apparently everything is on the menu, and she is fine with whatever I want.

We go into the Fonterra hotel and get a room for 20. We go upstairs and I mention that I want to pay after. Both the hawker and Kathy get up in arms about this and they stand their ground. I show them the money and they say it's not enough, so I agree to pay upfront. The hawker says he will be downstairs if I need him.

As soon as the door closes the girl is nothing but scowls and anger. She doesn't want kissing, she doesn't want to give a BBJ, and everything is covered now. I'm pretty slow to anger, and ever though this was something we agreed upon, I pop on a condom and we do mish. About two minutes in we discover she is on her period. Nice.

Five minutes of cleaning and we go down stairs. The hawker is long gone, and the hotel people can't help me. The girl runs off and I am left with no one to confront, pissed and very unsatisfied.

Headed to the boarder I meet my fav hawker. He has a brand new cell phone and he is playing around with it when I come up to him. I tell him what happened and he says he doesn't have any money, that he just used it all for a cell phone. Then he says his uncle is a cop and that he is glad that happened to me. LOL. I let him know I would spread the word to my fellow mongers about him. I just wish I could remember his name better. He is about 6'1, 6'2. Close cut goatee and look to be in his 30s. I met him around the corner on the north west side of the block from Obsessions.

Note: I normally would leave out the name of the girl, especially after something that embarrassing. But I got the feeling this is something they had done before and that I had been played. I have a gmail with this username if you want anymore info.

Take it easy, and be safe guys.

[Septim22]

I think I remember his name now. Fernando.

[Xfactors]

For newbies here, below is map and photo of Eros Spa.

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=31.3309671&lon=-110.9434766&z=17&l=0&m=h

[Xfactors]

For newbies here, below are photos of 4 clubs. Boleiro, Club 69, Lust Men's Club, and Obsession TD.

[Xfactors]

For newbies here, I wanted to bump this map up, that was posted on 3/28/04. Some of these clubs shown, have gone out of business, but it still shows a general layout of where some of these clubs are at, in relation to the border.

[SpermFactory]

And here is a current pic of the Osiris Massage front. On Obregon around Calle Pierson. I wouldn't have thought the typical Nogales market had a massage parlor in back, but this one does. If you walk in underneath the massage sign it's about 50 feet in back. Osiris is way better than Eros. All the chicks in Eros have an attitude problem, and Osiris is the opposite. Just saw Jessica in there today and she knocked it out of the park. Total GFE - even brought a couple Tecates into the room for us. Great massage, went down for about 15 minutes, and then - you might not believe this because of where she works - but I swear she has one of the tightest holes I've ever had.

153616

[Xfactors]

Osiris is way better than Eros. All the chicks in Eros have an attitude problem, and Osiris is the opposite.Below is map and photos of Osiris MP located in "Nogales Typical Market."

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=31.3303348&lon=-110.9457135&z=16&l=0&m=h

[Imayeti]

What happens if you do not have a passport but a valid drivers license and cross?

[Imayeti]

Is a passport really required to come back across?

[Xfactors]

Is a passport really required to come back across?Call USA Customs, and they can answer your questions on this. I use a passport card.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/74/search/1

[Big John 1]

Below is map and photos of Osiris MP located in "Nogales Typical Market."

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=31.3303348&lon=-110.9457135&z=16&l=0&m=hJessica was recommended by a member, what is cost of message here anybody know hours right in Benson, Arizona might drive down tomoorow if reasonable. Anyone know thanks for helping.

[Chica Luv]

I haven't been in several months. But in the past I always paid 200p to the house and 200p to the girl. I only pay AFTER all services are rendered. They usually close around 5-6pm but it depends on business.


Jessica was recommended by a member, what is cost of message here anybody know hours right in Benson, Arizona might drive down tomoorow if reasonable. Anyone know thanks for helping.

[Big John 1]

I haven't been in several months. But in the past I always paid 200p to the house and 200p to the girl. I only pay AFTER all services are rendered. They usually close around 5-6pm but it depends on business.I was there last Friday. Jessica no longer works there. Two very marginally doable chicas with bad attitude asked for $100 and got mad when I laughed at them. Olivido. Forget it. Some 300p freelancers around but low quality. Came up empty.

[Chica Luv]

Big John.

I've been out of town for several months, but still get text messages from some of my Stripper GFs. Send me a PM and I'll give you some of their names & numbers. If you call them (text is better, using Google translate) before you go down, you can arrange to have one or more meet you at a hotel before or after their work.

CL.


I was there last Friday. Jessica no longer works there. Two very marginally doable chicas with bad attitude asked for $100 and got mad when I laughed at them. Olivido. Forget it. Some 300p freelancers around but low quality. Came up empty.

[Chica Luv]

FINALLY. I have returned to Paradise!

After a too long absence, I have gotten back to my beloved Nogales and my favorite Latin Smorgasbord (oops, wrong country, wrong continent for that matter).

This past weekend I headed down for a quick day (24 hours) trip. As many of you that have read my reports know, I prefer to NOT go down on the weekends. However, I wanted to see just how many of my old stable of girls were still in the proverbial barn. So I decided to go down Saturday AM until Sunday.

As always, I send out a few pre-arrival text messages. Find of like chumming the waters on one of those big deep sea fishing charters. I got several responses that enabled me to preset my schedule.

My text-arranged appointment was set for 1000AM. Setting my appointment seemed pretty straight forward, but nothing ever is in the Land of Mañana. During the time setting process, she wanted to know if I wanted to see her before her 1030AM shift-start at one of the clubs or after. Before, of course! Anything can happen during & after these girls’ shifts. If you wait until after the girls shift, you may discover a new definition of "Sloppy Seconds, Thirds, and Fourths. Ad infinitum.

Again, as my routine requires, I checked into my favorite hotel, and as their routine they tried to charge me the published rate. NOT. As always, check your receipt.

Just because you "HAD" a 1000AM appointment doesn't mean that will be the time she will actually show up (rarely does it mean that is the time she will show up). True to LoM (Land of Mañana) time, she sent me a text saying that she had BLAH Blah blah going on and that she would be there at 1100AM. Finally at 1120 she shows up.

We proceeded up to my room and started our re-aquaintance.

LFK, DFK, BBBJ, DATY, multiple positions. She loves to BBBJ, and will / can do it for a LONG time. She stayed for several hours, never looking at the clock or seeming anxious about being late for work. In the end, she decided not to go to work at all.

SO.... 2+ hours later and only $60 lighter (well I was certainly lighter in certain areas. Also) we part company, promising to see one another again SOON.

By now it is mid-afternoon and I realize that again my ROUTINE mandates that I visit ALL the clubs during the current dayshift. So once again I head out into the LoM. Hot Latin Women, Cervezas, Greasy tacos stands and the ever-present "Hey Senor, what you lookin' for?"

Club Bolero’s is my first intended stop, but before I arrive, I must stop and have lunch. Just a few doors up (south, away from the USA border for those that haven't figured out that the sun rises in the East. Yet) is a GREAT little restaurant / cafe. It is run by a really nice elderly lady. Her food is SUPER, the servings are large and the prices are small. Chicken Mole, rice, beans, tortillas and a Diet Coke all for 50pesos.

Finally at Bolero’s, with drink in hand I'm watching the show. VERY few customers. There were about 6-8 girls working. One of the gals comes over and sits, hoping for some sort of connection and more importantly LOTs of my money. Just as I am about to tell her NO Gracias, one of my favorites girls walks up. We exchange hugs, kisses. Etc. She sits, we start catching up. Her job, kids, new apartment. Etc. Of course, the other gal quickly realizes this cash-cow is going to be grazing in other pastures soon, and departs quicker than she arrived.

After an hour or so, we had decided that she would come to my room after her TWO-SHIFT work-day was over@2AM. Now mind you, this is the same gal that has a history of scheduling an after work appointments, only to then show up 1-2 hours after her shift has ended. (See my sloppy 2nd. 3rd. Comments above).

That time slot filled, I proceeded to Club 69. Upon entering, I was immediately showered with hugs and kisses from a long-time GFE type of gal. This hottie is total GFE and speaks passable English. We visited for several hours, during which time she never asked me for money, drinks, etc. Also during my stay, she prepared ceviche. Which she freely shared with me. Of course, she made numerous shrimp / fish related comments about some of co-workers hygiene. LOL.

Unlike most of her coworkers, she was not working the unusual weekend double-shifts, and agreed to meet me at 6pm, when she got off from work. Of course this IS LoM, an in keeping with my planning strategies would continue the HUNT after I left and up until she actually texted me to say "I'm at your hotel. Where are you?".

Because it WAS the weekend and the locals were out doing their Saturday Clubbing routines, I decided to spend some time at the Salon Regis (not sure of the correct spelling, but it is the bar that is across the street and just south from Club Obsessions. In a word "LOTs". Lots of local gals, all dress up and looking for a CONNECTION. Well at least as long as your Pesos-Nality holds out. I stayed at Regis until Ms. 69 called to announce her arrival at my hotel. ONLY 45 minutes last. Please remember in the LoM, this is VERY punctual!

We had a drink in the hotel bar, and immediately proceeded to the Stabbin-Cabin to get re-acquainted. In the Biblical sense, of course.

We started with mutual shower play and had a great time washing each other’s backs, to include licking and sucking all the newly cleaned places of interest. 'Oh so delicioso' Then, we proceeded to La Cama for several hours of. But not limited to:

LFK, DFK, DATY, BBBJ (another Maestra of Oral Aptitude). We had a several hours of wonderful catching up. She slowed only to give an old guy a break.

One thing about this gal, she has a very small clitoris and sometimes has a challenging time achieving orgasm. To help remedy this, we use a lot of tongue (Mine of course) and then once well-lubed, switch to a modified Missionary position. She pulls her leg / feet back up over her head, I slide Mr. Lucky into her now-hot-and-throbbing womanhood, and as I am working the Big-Blue-Boy rythmeticly in-and-out, she is playing with her clitoris in such a way that is exciting to her. Once she starts CUMMING, she wraps her legs around me & buries her painted nails into my ass & back. This seems to last an eternity an all the while she has forgotten to breathe. We both have a HUGE organism, and collapse into a tangled sweaty heap. WOW she IS a lot of fun.

Soooo, back Salon Regis to purse the local talent and maybe pick up a couple non-pro gals. My time at the Regis was very eventful... saw another of my old GFEs. She had a date, but excused herself long enough to say hello, give me a hug and her new phone number. Also, a couple of gals wrote their names and numbers down and had the bartender deliver them to me.

Although, I didn't have the time or energy to partake... I have added their numbers to the to-do-list for future visits.

Finally at Midnight, I returned to my hotel to get a couple hours of rest before Ms.Boleros scheduled 2AM arrival. On the way up to my room on the elevator, I told the operator/doorman that Ms.B would be coming by at 2AM and would he please escort her up to my room #xyz. Of course, I punctuated the PLEASE by handing him 50pesos. As a RULE, I always tip the doorman and other KEY hotel staff members.

2AM, Ms.B arrives on time. She is a longtime favorite of mine and ALWAYS insist on spending the night.

She comes in, takes a shower, and hops into bed to get warm and the fun starts.

NOTE TO SELF: Always get a room with two beds, ESPECIALLY if Ms.B is stopping by. WHY? Ms.B is the most prolific SQURITER that I have ever met. Routinely, she will have between 3-5 organisms within the first 15-25 minutes that she is there. I am talking about; She is on top CG, working you like a borrowed mule, extremely vocal, hitting you, scratching you... until she finally digs her nails into your chest as she has the big O. At this point about a cup of hot pussy juice gushes out flooding the entire area.... down your shaft, over your balls, through the crack of your ass and onto the bed sheets. She will do this repeatedly until she is exhausted and the bed sheets are COMPLETELY soaked.

CG, Mish, DATY, LFK, DFK....etc. Finally about 1.5 hours after her arrival we moved over to the other bed and their dry sheets, and fell asleep..... Until about 1030AM, when we repeated the entire process over again.

We then took showers and when down to the hotel restaurant for a late breakfast. Afterward, I checked out, we when our separate ways and I headed home.

All in all I spent about 25 hours in Nogales, had three different women, numerous hours of great sex and lots of additional offers.

YES, I am glad to be back in S.AZ and especially Nogales, Sonora!!!!!!!!!

Chica Luv

[Chica Luv]

Spent another day (24 hours) in Nogales Sonora.

As always I sent a Text to one of my favorite gals prior to my arrival. I asking her to meet me at my hotel prior to her going to work on the early shift at the CLUB. So, we met at the hotel and had a great time. I did however notice that she was putting on a little weight. Belly & Breast. She told me that she was WITH CHILD! NO, not with child De Chica Luv. He had his business fixed, and is no longer worried about that potential problem. She did however; say she knew the potential father and he had agreed to PAY (whatever that means)

BIG LESSON! If you father a child in Mexico, You WILL pay child support. Do some research on these boards, if you want to learn more.

She left after a few hours and I spent the rest of the afternoon & evening touring the clubs, bars & shops of Nogales.

There are a lot of Club girls WANTING to meet you after their shifts at work. The number of customers in the clubs in REALLY down and most of the girls I talked with were willing to meet me at my hotel either before or after the shift at the club.

Although I had several name & phone numbers from the club girls, I decided to try something different. I had TONY set me up with one of his non-club contacts. Once Tony arranged the meeting, we all met in front of my hotel. The gals were very attractive and I decided to continue with the negations'.

I told Tony (who speaks English) to tell the girl that I wanted one hour of service to include BBBJ, DFK, DATY & multiple positions. He translated, while I listened. My Spanish is good enough to know that he conveyed to her all that I had said. Then, I told him that I was willing to pay 600pesos. Tony countered with 800, I with 600, Tony with 700, I with 600. We all agreed on 600pesos.

Of course Tony wanted his "TIP" up front, and as usual, I told him that he got his tip after and ONLY after I was satisfied that the girl had upheld her part of the deal.

We had a great time in the room with all conditions being met. To include 20 minutes of BBBJ, along with all other listed items. As a bonus, she was lactating. I discovered this while squeezing her beautiful breast during our extended BBBJ session.

After more than an hour and several rest breaks, we concluded our business (3AM) and I walked her back out to meet her friends & Tony. I gave Tony his tip ($5. 00 dollars US) , and departed.

Back in the hotel, I got a few hours of sleep, had breakfast and headed home.

Lots of fun to be had in Nogales, and at some very good prices.

Chica Luv

[Marelobo Mex]

Chica Luv,

Reading your reports has me droolin again. I haven't had an awesome BJ in at least 6 months.

I wish I was headed back down that way, but don't have any plans now.

Keep the reports coming and I catch up with you next time I am out west.

Marelobo

[Chica Luv]

Marelobo.

Come on down. The girls will still be waiting for you.

CL.


Chica Luv,

Reading your reports has me droolin again. I haven't had an awesome BJ in at least 6 months.

I wish I was headed back down that way, but don't have any plans now.

Keep the reports coming and I catch up with you next time I am out west.

Marelobo

[Arizonan82]

Spent another day (24 hours) in Nogales Sonora.

As always I sent a Text to one of my favorite gals prior to my arrival. I asking her to meet me at my hotel prior to her going to work on the early shift at the CLUB. So, we met at the hotel and had a great time. I did however notice that she was putting on a little weight. Belly & Breast. She told me that she was WITH CHILD! NO, not with child De Chica Luv. He had his business fixed, and is no longer worried about that potential problem. She did however; say she knew the potential father and he had agreed to PAY (whatever that means)

BIG LESSON! If you father a child in Mexico, You WILL pay child support. Do some research on these boards, if you want to learn more.

She left after a few hours and I spent the rest of the afternoon & evening touring the clubs, bars & shops of Nogales.

There are a lot of Club girls WANTING to meet you after their shifts at work. The number of customers in the clubs in REALLY down and most of the girls I talked with were willing to meet me at my hotel either before or after the shift at the club.

Although I had several name & phone numbers from the club girls, I decided to try something different. I had TONY set me up with one of his non-club contacts. Once Tony arranged the meeting, we all met in front of my hotel. The gals were very attractive and I decided to continue with the negations'.

I told Tony (who speaks English) to tell the girl that I wanted one hour of service to include BBBJ, DFK, DATY & multiple positions. He translated, while I listened. My Spanish is good enough to know that he conveyed to her all that I had said. Then, I told him that I was willing to pay 600pesos. Tony countered with 800, I with 600, Tony with 700, I with 600. We all agreed on 600pesos.

Of course Tony wanted his "TIP" up front, and as usual, I told him that he got his tip after and ONLY after I was satisfied that the girl had upheld her part of the deal.

We had a great time in the room with all conditions being met. To include 20 minutes of BBBJ, along with all other listed items. As a bonus, she was lactating. I discovered this while squeezing her beautiful breast during our extended BBBJ session.

After more than an hour and several rest breaks, we concluded our business (3AM) and I walked her back out to meet her friends & Tony. I gave Tony his tip ($5. 00 dollars US) , and departed.

Back in the hotel, I got a few hours of sleep, had breakfast and headed home.

Lots of fun to be had in Nogales, and at some very good prices.

Chica LuvHi Chica Luv,

I went to Nogales a couple of months ago and paid a lot more than what you normally pay for the girls there. A few days back, I decided to search the web and found this forum. I have been reading it and found your posts to be very informative. Would it be possible to get the contact info for this guy called Tony in Nogales?

Thanks in advance and please continue with the great posts,

Arizonan82

[Chica Luv]

Thanks for the note.

Tony is not hard to locate. He is usually available near the intersection just south of the club Obsession's. He has long dark wavey hair, that he wears combed back. He usually only works weekends after 9 or 10 PM. Ask around and you will find him.

Good luck.

CL.


Hi Chica Luv,

I went to Nogales a couple of months ago and paid a lot more than what you normally pay for the girls there. A few days back, I decided to search the web and found this forum. I have been reading it and found your posts to be very informative. Would it be possible to get the contact info for this guy called Tony in Nogales?

Thanks in advance and please continue with the great posts,

Arizonan82

[Arizonan82]

Hey Chica Luv,

Thanks for the advice. I am planning to go there sometime soon, and I will let you guys know how it goes.

All the best,

Az82


Thanks for the note.

Tony is not hard to locate. He is usually available near the intersection just south of the club Obsession's. He has long dark wavey hair, that he wears combed back. He usually only works weekends after 9 or 10 PM. Ask around and you will find him.

Good luck.

CL.

[Start123]

Took a plunge and went to Nogales tonight. First time.

Parking: I 've read here to park by McDonalds, so I was looking for that. When I-19 ends you can see it on your left. The place is all torn up with construction so I parked a little up from it in some parking lot for $4.

Walked to the border by following the crowd, crossed into Mexico with no questions. You have to press the button to see if you are getting selected for inspection my Mexicans. I got green and off I went.

I looked on the map at home and tried to learn the names of the streets so I can orient myself. Didn't work! Forget about that idea. I walked around a little and just observed the environment. I saw a bar / strip joint named Obsessions. Cover was 4 dollars and you get a beer for that inside. I didn't see any Americans inside, I thought it was a bad sign. A host / hustler came to me and guided me to the table and introduced himself as Roberto. He spoke an OK English. I explained what I was looking for. A BJ in a private area. He really didn't say yes or no. He got me my beer and came with a girl who he said will give me a free lap dance. Alright, I can handle a free lap dance! The girl was OK, a little chubby but hey, she let me touch her so that was good. The next move was I was offered a private dance in VIP for 25 bucks. The guy said it will be double time too and I can do "more". He wanted money up front of course. I gave him a 50 and told him to get me change. He said he'll give it to me when I come back. (I will never see that change)

In VIP that looked like a death chair when they electrocute people, I enjoyed a dance for about 10 min. The girl didn't speak English and my Spanish was rusty so I didn't get anything of of her. I understood later there is no sex in this club. You can touch her anywhere on the main floor anyway.

Roberto (that scammer!) came back to the room to take the girl away, I asked him about my change (25 bucks) , but of course his English got really bad at that moment. However he said he will bring me another girl who looks like a model for another 10 bucks and I can get two lap dances! I reluctantly agreed and two minutes later a girl came with him. She was a 9. Nice! Again I let my hands do exploring for about 10 min.

When I come out, Roberto said I owe him 25 bucks for another girl and his tip, another 5 bucks. I realized I am out of 54 dollars already and my dick hasn't been sucked yet! Now the bastard wants another 30.

15 min of arguing back and forth we agree that I give him 10 bucks and I leave the club. I didn't feel particulary safe in the club by myself with all those " security" guys. So I consider myself lucky to get out of Obsessions with 64 dollar damage and alive. And Horny!

If you see Roberto, he looks like hes got this goatee style facial hair, skinny and hunger for money in his eyes, run the other way! He will find a way to scam you!

Onward I go. It was dark out, so I didn't feel particularly safe in a town I've never been to. I needed a local guide. The best way to get one is just to pick a regular guy walking on the street and ask him if he can help you and show you where the action is. I stopped a guy in his 30's, looks like a regular fellow, not a hustler. Asked him where a good strip club or a massage place is. Told him I'll give him 5 bucks for showing me around.

So off we go. He walked me to some place called Boleros and the cover was 4 bucks each. I didn't go in, I needed more than just a dance at this point. Next place was on the same block, some massage parlor called Eros something. Hm. The guys outside said the girl was busy right now. (I wonder what she was busy with?). We walked up a little more and crossed the street, passing some church. I looked a little inside the church, some one was getting married. I thought it would be nice to find a Mexican girl and get married. I need to make more contacts and not with shady people!

We got to talk a bit and my guide said I should only pay 40 dollars for a nookie. As this is Mexico. I agreed. He said he knows a girl, around 20, beautiful, he can hook me up with. I was up for it!

He asked me if he can have a tip. 3 dollars so he can get the girl for me and he'll be back in 5 min. I gave him 3 bucks. Kinda knowing I'll never see him again. He never did, I waited about 15 min looking at people passing by. There were some cute girls, I wonder if I could just cold approach them. Anyway, the thought that there is a chance of me getting with a cute 20 year old kept me there for another 10 min.

It was dark and I noticed fewer and fewer people on the street. I decided to call it a trip and made my way back to the border. I had to ask few people on my way how to get there too.

I saw some what I imagine a typical monger would be people. White, in their 50's, in shape, dressed nice. Looking for love.

On the border, the usual, they want to know what you were doing in Nogales. I told them I was just curious about the place. The didn't believe me.

PS. Anyone can PM me a local contact in Nogales? I need a guide! I've heard there is a local disco where I can pick up regular girls, that information would also help. Wing-man maybe?

[Chica Luv]

I replied to your PM with time sensative info. Check your messages.

CL.

[QUOTE=Start123; 1225737]Took a plunge and went to Nogales tonight. First time.

Parking: I 've read here to park by McDonalds, so I was looking for that. When I-19 ends you can see it on your left. The place is all torn up with construction so I parked a little up from it in some parking lot for $4.

/QUOTE]

[Pilot Prod]

Took a plunge and went to Nogales tonight. First time.

PS. Anyone can PM me a local contact in Nogales? I need a guide! I've heard there is a local disco where I can pick up regular girls, that information would also help. Wing-man maybe?I've found Boleros to be quite friendly. I've never had a problem there. I agree with you about Obsessions being unfriendly. 69, around the corner from Boleros is supposed to be OK but I never really clicked with them. I've some very hot experiences in Boleros, the girls seem to want to make sure you're happy or you won't repeat. When they quote prices for "Private" keep in mind that the house keeps about $70 so when you negotiate with the girls they get anything above that. I can usually get them for $120 total. They say its for an hour but its really till a pop or the hour whichever comes (!) first. If you want to get some recommendations read Chica Luvs posts. One of the recent ones will give you a contact he has used and had good luck with.

Good Luck

[Arizonan82]

After carefully reading posts on this forum, I decided to go to back to Nogales. (The first time I went there was this past July. At the time, I did not know about this forum so I spent more money than I was expecting. Oh well, at least I know about it now). I wanted to arrive there early afternoon, enjoy some good food and then have fun with the ladies. Anyhow, I was only able to get there around 3:30pm. Since I had been there before I knew my way around. I went directly to Osiris Massage Parlor. There were 4 ladies there, ranging from 6 to 7. I had a difficult time deciding which girl to pick. I finally decided for Rosaura, a petite brunette who was a 7. This girl told me she 19, and started at the MP only a few weeks back. She was a bit shy and inexperienced, but did a decent job. I spent 800 pesos with girl and MP share. I did not feel like negotiating the price because Rosaura was a very nice and cute. Having read other posts, I had the idea of getting her phone number and asked her if she worked outside the MP. She promptly wrote down her phone number, but told me she could only work on Sundays after 3pm because of her daughter.

Then I decided to go to Obsessions. It was my first time there. It was around 5 pm and there were only 3 girls dancing, ranging from 5-7. I just felt like chilling for a bit, drink a couple of beers and decided where to go next since it was dead there. I talked to the waiter (Fausto) about suggestions on where else to go. He suggested Club Regis across the street, but he told me it was too early to go there. Also, he told me to be careful at night since I was by myself. He told me that there are working girls at Club Regis, but they are not checked for STD's like the girls who work at strip clubs are. Please can anyone confirm this?

I left Obsessions just before 6pm and decided to cross the RR tracks and check one of the clubs there. On one of the corners a flayero (Manoel) took me to Club 69, which I had been before. Arriving there, I paid the $ 4 cover and got a tequila shot and a beer. Once again my waiter was Sergio, I guy that I recommend (in my previous visit to Nogales we chit-chatted for a while). He recognized me from my last visit, I started chatting with him (probably by now you guys have realized that I am fluent in Spanish) about random topics: life in the US, soccer, his family, and then we got down to business. Since I had experienced a young cutie I was looking for someone who was older than 25 why. O, and who was friendly (I really get annoyed by girls who are arrogant and do not have a smile in their face). I gave him a tip and politely asked not to bother me about buying a drink to the girl. The first girl he brought, I will call her Y, that was the only thing I could understand from her name. The music was loud and I just heard Y. It sounded like an indigenous name. Anyways, I was not interested in finding out her name, I just wanted to talk to her (later I will elaborate more on this girl). Y was a 29 whyear old cute and friendly brunette. I chit-chatted with her for about 10 minutes and she told me she had to leave because the manager was giving her a dirty look. I obviously asked for her digits, which she gave me. I asked if she was available after her shift ended, and she told me she was going out with a friend to a night club and invited me to go over. I told her I would think about it, and would let her know later. The second girl was Sam, I think – 8 face. 7 body, friendly but not my type. She had a piercing on her lips. The third girl was, I believe, Dolores or Dulce. 9 face and 8 body, but with an attitude. I did not like her.

By this time, it was around 7:30 pm and I was getting hungry. I asked Sergio where he recommended to go eat and he told me he was about to leave and he would take me to a cheap and good restaurant near the border. Y came back to my table asking me if I had made up my mind and if I wanted to go out with her and her friend. I told her I was not sure yet. She apologized but told me she had to dance on the stage. Observing the sexy way she was dancing, I decided she would be a good hookup, and went to the stage, gave her a tip and told her I wanted to talk to her afterwards. After she was dancing, she came to my table and I told her I wanted to meet her outside of the club right after her shifted ended. Her friend could wait I told her and she agreed. We agreed to meet at 8:30 pm in front of the church since that was a place I knew where it was. Sergio took me to a decent restaurant close to Fray Marcos Hotel, called as I recall Leo's. The food was good, but I rushed eating because I wanted to buy a different kind of condom in a nearby drug store and it was almost 8:30pm. By this time the streets were empty, and being raised in Latin America I was very cautious about my surroundings. I waited at the front of the church for Y, from 8:25 pm till about 8:45 pm. She did not show up so I decided to walk towards Club 69 to see if she was on her way. During this time she had called me, but I did not realize it because my phone was on vibrating mode. I texted her waiting for an answer, and decided to walk back to the church, and waited for another 10 minutes. I tried calling but for whatever reason I kept getting dropped calls. I tried texting her again, but she did not reply. By this time, it was after 9pm and I was getting worried about my surroundings. It was too dark and there was no one around, so I decided to walk towards Club Regis. I was very frustrated.

On my way to Club Regis, I was approached by a gentleman, who by the description given by Chica Luv looked like Tony, and it was in fact him. I told Tony: Are you the famous Antonio (Tony)? Yes, I am Antonio M. Aka 'The Chilango', he replied. I told him someone had recommended him saying he was someone I could trust. He liked the comment and we quickly exchanged digits because I told him that I was waiting for a girl. He asked me that in my next visit to Nogales, to let him know in advance so he could arrange some girls. He politely asked me if I wanted to see a girl while waiting. I said why not. He brought this girl but she was not my type – too skinny and too young. I wanted someone older. At this time, Y called me saying she was arriving in front of the church in about 5 minutes. I told her I would meet her there. I said good-bye to Tony and walked to the church. Y was already there waiting for me.

We decided to go Hotel Frontera, which Tony had recommended. I paid 200 pesos for 2 hours. It was a decent hotel. Before, I had negotiated with Y. She wanted $120 for 2 hours but I was able to get it down to $ 100. Very well spent money, and I will explain why. When we got into the hotel room, I saw her beautiful eyes. At Club 69, I did not realize this because it was too dark. Man, she was a total GFE. First, we began a very intense DFK. After DFKing for about ten minutes, she offered: 'do you want to fuck bareback'? I said to myself. It is a tempting offer, but safety comes before pleasure. So, I refused. But she sure did an excellent and intense BBBJ. I dare to say it was probably the top 3 BBBJ's I ever had. The only thing I did not do with her, as you guys imagine was greek, which seems to be a taboo, and DATY, which I doing like doing. The two hours went by very fast. But I sure did have a great time. I will definitely repeat. Y: brunette, curly hair. 9 face. 8 body. 100 attitude. After the 2 hours were up, someone knocked on the door, then I took her to a cab, because she was meeting her friend and going to a club. While crossing the border, the CBP officer joked about the lipstick mark she had left on my face.

P. S. I am not sure if I can send / receive PM's, but I do not mind at all serving as a wingman. This is the least I can do for this forum, since I learned a lot from it (especially from Lobo and Chica Luv. Thank you guys!). I plan to go back to Nogales sometime soon. I am not sure when.

[Chica Luv]

A82.

Good report. Sounds like you had a great time.

You can only send / receive PM's if you are a paying member.

CL.


After carefully reading posts on this forum, I decided to go to back to Nogales. (The first time I went there was this past July. At the time, I did not know about this forum so I spent more money than I was expecting. Oh well, at least I know about it now). I wanted tP. S. I am not sure if I can send / receive PM's, but I do not mind at all serving as a wingman. This is the least I can do for this forum, since I learned a lot from it (especially from Lobo and Chica Luv. Thank you guys!). I plan to go back to Nogales sometime soon. I am not sure when.

[Start123]

P. S. I am not sure if I can send / receive PM's, but I do not mind at all serving as a wingman. This is the least I can do for this forum, since I learned a lot from it (especially from Lobo and Chica Luv. Thank you guys!). I plan to go back to Nogales sometime soon. I am not sure when.Great report Arizonan! My experience was not nearly as good. But then again, after dark with no people around I headed for the border, I wasn't looking for any more adventures.

Try to PM me, because I can't PM you. I'd love to hang out there with someone, I need to find that Tony guy. (Chica Luv, PM his number if you feel genereous?)

By the way, I am a Senior Member and can PM and receive PMs no problem.

Looking to get down there before Christmas again.

[Xfactors]

You can only send / receive PM's if you are a paying member.

CL.Nope, I can send and receive PM's, and I've never paid. I believe you have to be logged in as a regular, or senior member to send and receive PM's. Check the forum's FAQ's for more info.

"Do I have to be a Forum Member to access the Private Messaging system?
Yes. You must be logged in as a Regular or Senior Member to use the Private Message System."

[Arizonan82]

Great report Arizonan! My experience was not nearly as good. But then again, after dark with no people around I headed for the border, I wasn't looking for any more adventures.

Try to PM me, because I can't PM you. I'd love to hang out there with someone, I need to find that Tony guy. (Chica Luv, PM his number if you feel genereous?)

By the way, I am a Senior Member and can PM and receive PMs no problem.

Looking to get down there before Christmas again.Hey Start123,

I tried to PM you, but I was not able to. Any other suggestion to get in touch?

Take care,

AZ82

[Start123]

Hey Start123,

I tried to PM you, but I was not able to. Any other suggestion to get in touch?

Take care,

AZ82All posts are heavily checked and edited by the mods, so I don't see a way to leave any contact info. You could leave a comment on some other website like youtube or any blog site and let me know how to find it. I bet this is going to be deleted. When do you want to head back over there?

[Arizonan82]

All posts are heavily checked and edited by the mods, so I don't see a way to leave any contact info. You could leave a comment on some other website like youtube or any blog site and let me know how to find it. I bet this is going to be deleted. When do you want to head back over there?Hey Start123,

I plan to go down to Nogales probably after new year's, possibly sometime in January. I am not sure yet. I am assuming you want to go there before then. Anyways, I am assuming you live in Tucson, correct? I am going to Tucson on New Year's eve to hang out with buddies. Would you like to meet somewhere so I can give you Tony's contact info?

Take care,

AZ82

[Chica Luv]

I don't have a phone for Tony. He changes / losses his phone / number on a regular bases. Best way to find him is on the weekends Fri & Sat nights after 9PM. He is usually hanging around the corner near one of the strip club, depending which club he is working with that week / months.

CL.


Great report Arizonan! My experience was not nearly as good. But then again, after dark with no people around I headed for the border, I wasn't looking for any more adventures.

Try to PM me, because I can't PM you. I'd love to hang out there with someone, I need to find that Tony guy. (Chica Luv, PM his number if you feel genereous?)

By the way, I am a Senior Member and can PM and receive PMs no problem.

Looking to get down there before Christmas again.

[Start123]

Hey Start123,

I plan to go down to Nogales probably after new year's, possibly sometime in January. I am not sure yet. I am assuming you want to go there before then. Anyways, I am assuming you live in Tucson, correct? I am going to Tucson on New Year's eve to hang out with buddies. Would you like to meet somewhere so I can give you Tony's contact info?

Take care,

AZ82Yes I live in Tucson, but New Years I'll be somewhere else. I guess I'll try to find the guy on Nogales. I am a little scared to walk around Nogi after 9pm by myself looking for something, so If you are going down there again AZ82, let me know, we can meet up somewhere. I am very easy to spot.

Happy New year everyone!

[NiceMusic]

I'm in Tucson for the moment and going to Nogales tomorrow (Friday) and until 1/17. I too am scared, since I don't speak Spanish and am clearly not Hispanic. But, I would like to visit. Anyone want to accompany me? Suggestions are welcome too.

Thanks,

NM


Yes I live in Tucson, but New Years I'll be somewhere else. I guess I'll try to find the guy on Nogales. I am a little scared to walk around Nogi after 9pm by myself looking for something, so If you are going down there again AZ82, let me know, we can meet up somewhere. I am very easy to spot.

Happy New year everyone!

[Pilot Prod]

Well; this has been a very sparse board for awhile. I'm headed down today to check things out. Been going there on and off since 2000. Lots of changes from those days. I'd like to try the "Chica Luv" methods but I don't have the latitude to spend a weekend there. I've had really good luck at Boliero's, the best being with a little spinner named Marianna, but she doesn't work there anymore. Anyone knows her whereabouts I'd be interested. Anyway, I'll post my experiences later.

[Chica Luv]

PP.

I can not take any credit for the methods I've used down in Nogales. Lobo 003 is the guy that took me under his wing and showed me the ropes down in Nogales. He was and still is the Master of working the Nogales Ladies, both in and out of the clubs.

I have been down to Nogales twice in the past month and found that many of the ladies in the clubs are VERY interested in making deals that include them coming to your hotel room either before or after their shift-work at the club.

Of course there is always "TONY", who maintains a stable of girls. Club girls, street girls and part-timers just looking to pickup some extra weekend cash. As always, YMMV with Tonys' girls and / or the street girls.

Several notes.

-I saw several of former club-girls working the streets and bars (non-strip club place ). Most of the girls that hangout in the local-frequented bars are there to make money (either by you buying them drinks, or you taking them to you motel).

-The Salon Regis (located across the street from Obsessions) has numerous ladies to choice from, especially Fri & Saturday nights. There is no cover charge to get in, they have music, cheap drink (usually half the price of the strip clubs) , a cook (part time) , and no one bothers you. The most of the girls come in and hang out, looking for someone to buy them drinks and hopefully take them home. I saw no less than 5 former club girls in Regis this past Thursday evening / night. Several looking really hot.

-Tony is still alive and well. Again, he speaks English and has lots of girls listed in his cell phone. Remember he IS there to make money, but can usually find a girl to meet your needs at a very reasonable price. If you know how to do a little horse-trading.

Nogales, still fun.

Chica Luv.


Well; this has been a very sparse board for awhile. I'm headed down today to check things out. Been going there on and off since 2000. Lots of changes from those days. I'd like to try the "Chica Luv" methods but I don't have the latitude to spend a weekend there. I've had really good luck at Boliero's, the best being with a little spinner named Marianna, but she doesn't work there anymore. Anyone knows her whereabouts I'd be interested. Anyway, I'll post my experiences later.

[Arizonan82]

I decided in the last minute to go to Nogales after over a month. (I apologize Start 123 if I did not post here I was going, but I have posted Tony's and Sergio's numbers). I arrived there late in afternoon, made contact with the girl I have been seeing. She told me she would be available after work, around 8pm. Since I had some time to spare, I decided to go to Boleiros. It was my first time there. There were not many people, mostly locals. The girls were ok. Actually, I was paying too much attention to them because I knew I was going to have fun later on. I just had a beer and then left to Club69. At this Club, I briefly talked to Sergio, one of the waiters there. He told me the situation was worse than the last time I was there. Since he only works for tips, there are days he does not make any money. So, I suggested if I could provide his contact info on this forum and he said he would appreciate it. I hope the moderators do not delete it. Sergio told me he prefers to be contacted by text messaging and he is relatively fluent in English. I am not sure if he can arrange you with girls like Tony does but he is willing to be a guide. I recommend him. Here is his info: Sergio (works at Club / Studio 69) 52 6311251477. Just briefly explain how you got his number so he does not ignore your message.

After I left Club 69 I went to eat at Leo's and then stopped by at Salon Regis. It was actually my first time there. I saw one guy that stood out as an American, and who could be a board member. I felt like chit-chatting with him since I was by myself waiting for the girl I have been seeing, but this guy was with a good looking company who stood out to me because she was wearing a black hat with a purple tape. Anyways, I did not see many girls there at Regis. Maybe it was too early. It was around 8 pm. At the scheduled time, I got a text from the girl I was waiting for. I had a great time for the next two hours with her.

After I walked her to get a cab, I saw Tony and started chit-chatting with him. He is a very professional person and carries a good conversation. He also appreciated and did not mind if I shared his contact info here on this post. (I hope other board members do not get upset and also I hope his phone number is not deleted). I have never gotten a girl from him. Other members who have dealt with him can elaborate more on this. Anyways, he works for Obsessions and is normally standing on the corner just south of this club. He is there every night between 830pm and 2-3 am, depending on how busy the night is. Tony 52 6311249087. He just asked if you could be specific what you are looking for and how you got his info so he does not ignore your message. He told me he has a lot of phone numbers from his "clients". Apparently he gets his "clients" other services besides women.

I hope the ones who contact Tony and Sergio have a great time there.

All the best,

AZ82

[NiceMusic]

Hey Arizona82 and others,

I was in Nogales. Come on! You should have sent me a message.

In any case, I will have several reports to add to this thread, trust me.

The last few posts are completely on about the bars, clubs, and pimps. They were posted after I was there, however, and I did waste a fair amount of money.

[NiceMusic]

Nogales, Sonora (MX).

Although not close to the ease, lacks the variety, and has few high-quality choices compared to those of Tijuana, all the necessary options are readily available within a five-min walk from the border crossing, on either side of the main road south into Nogales, Sonora. It takes no great effort to know it all, as men will approach you anytime of the day or night with offers, if you are a lone Caucasian walking slowly. Drugs are readily available, but I don't do them. Other than knowing price ranges for whatever you're seeking, a guy needs to do very little research. The options come to you–they are desperate to get work.

The city is hurting economically, with few tourist and lots of deportees. It is not a beautiful place and has little to offer a tourist, esp. Now that most tourist shops are closed after the economic meltdown several years ago. Despite this, Nogales is not particularly cheap in nearly any regard, except for questionable taco stands. (The trustworthy restaurant are much more expensive.) Safety for tourist seems less of an issue, if you stick to those 'tourist areas' and don't do stupid things. Still random things can happen, and did to me.

One should note that nearly everybody in the area, girls, the hawkers, and the club owners, know each other. This may not be apparent to at first. In fact, pimps, clubs, etc, are often offering the same girls, just through different vendors ('strip' clubs, pimps, massage parlors, etc.). Street walkers are rare, and I think still depend on pimps to do the negotiating and looking after.

The offers (cost) will range over the map, even from the same people for the same girls on different nights. They try to gauge you from your attitude, approach, and appearance. Clubs and massage places give you immediate satisfaction, if you do the deed inside. You also don't have to go through the pain of seeing one girl at a time and rejecting each until you get what you want. You can see the choices. In the end, it seems one pays the same negotiated price, whether the girl is high or low quality–so just keep insisting until you get what you want.

Whatever you schedule outside those establishments, it seems to take more hours more than one expects-it isn't generally immediate like we're used to in SE Asia. When negotiating price, the men will always *act* as your advocate, but remember that nearly all of them are really working for someone and personally needing to make a profit off of you. They can however get a good price for you, if they are making up for a severe screw up on their part. Nearly everyone along the way will ask for a tip: $5 will generally satisfy most people, but $10 will please them, even if they walk you for two minutes from the bridge to the front of a club. Especially outside the club, the girl will probably want a tip afterwards, and they are good at working you to get that money.

All girls have children and the stretch marks can be extensive; and, many have husbands / boyfriends, often unrelated to their children. So, overnights can be difficult to achieve, even if they agree to it; I. E, they just walk out after their 'job' is done. Recommendation for Nogales: Demand that you will pay at the end; if they will not agree to this, there are many more options from numerous places. If you walk away, they'll probably agree anyways.

On the East (left) of immediately going over the border from the USA to Mexico, Club 69, Bolerio, and Eros massage. None of these are frequented as often, and their girls don't seem quite as attractive. They are more desperate for work, however, and their prices might be negotiated lower. On the West (right of the border) is Obsessions (club) and a massage place called Osiris south of there, surprisingly in a shopping market.

There can be problems with inviting girls into the named hotels, even after you have asked whether they are girl friendly. Any young-looking girls must now have an I'd, even if they are over 18 years old–recently, authorities arrested an African-American man, who was caught with a 15-yr-old and the hotels are clearly freaked out by the authorities. There are however plenty of back-alley hotels (crappy) , which don't ask questions, in the case your girl doesn't bring an I'd. This happened to me twice; but, I ensured they were above 18 yrs in other ways. (Don't put yourself into a Mexican prison for 25 years, please, by being stupid!) So, I once had to pay for a second hotel at a rate of 150 pesos / session or so; the Frontera would be a convenient example of this type of hotel. I'm told to avoid the mafia and other elements at the California hotel. And, I had trouble with a religious security guard at a well-established GF hotel: Had I not been insistent and argued unpleasantly, I would have been in another hotel again that night. Of the respectable accommodation options, the Regis is by far the best quality for the cost (400 pesos). I stayed at Olivia, which is not that great and more expensive (470-700 pesos with 50pesos deposit). The Fran Marcos is the best and fanciest hotel of the area at 795+150 pesos deposit.

"STRIP" CLUBS.

These are brothels, although the girls do dance and strip their tops. They all dance in a Latin style. A few are good, but none are excellent dancers, unlike one or two I saw at my favorite place in Tijuana.

These clubs are consistently the most expensive of all the options. But, one can deal them down a lot, with the right person negotiating. One also can see all the girls at once and pick the type you like. You can also talk with them beforehand, if personality or English skills matter to you.

Near these clubs, scruffy men will want to get a commission for bringing you in. From what I can tell, your cover—when requested—will be the same amount, whether they get their commission. The clubs may, but not always, charge you a cover, which usually will mean you get a beer or even a beer and a shot of vodka for a few dollars—actually a good deal for you, if you wish to get intoxicated. If you look hesitant or likely to hire a lady already, they will probably waive it. They want money and have a business relationship with the bouncer and club.

Around the corner from the clubs, interestingly, these same men will try to give you offers outside the clubs at discounts. In fact, they will see you looking on the bridge a few blocks away and try to flag you down. Nearly all offers will be high, and prices will descend as you ponder and seem on the edge. Some will get desperate after a long negotiation and you can see them hit a point where they can go no further without squeezing money from others involved (they are loath to do that and won't generally).

The amenities, dances, and drink prices of all the border clubs are all equivalent in cost, and the quality of the rooms among all three "strip" clubs were similar. The 69, I believe has 'rooms' that are on upstairs looking down upon the club—I find that less appealing personally. Even though people downstairs can't see anything, I'm told, I like a better sense of privacy.

You can generally get a beer for $4, lady drink for $12. Lap dance about $6 and private dance at $23. 1 hr in the back room for $130 (day) to $150 (night or extremely young) , but they will ask much more from $150 to $200. Take out will start at $300 for 2 hrs but I was able to get it down to $180. Towards the end of a shift, they get desperate and prices can drop quickly.

Having lived in the US, Sergio at 69 club speaks English at 69 club: 631-125-1477. He seems upstanding and serves his club well. This sort of deportee, who worked in the US for years, is not hard to find—they can sometimes speak English very well and get our culture better.

Each club will often be many more girls than customers and the Mexicans there will often not hire (they may not have the money for more than drinks) , but that doesn't mean the servers (pimps) will start with reasonable prices for the girls. The servers inside will attempt to build a business relationship with you to the exclusion of the other servers. They do provide good service. After getting you a drink, it will only take a few minutes before they start leading girls by the hand to sit with you and trying to clench a deal. It is hard to tell them that you just want to watch and select yourself. At your request, they will try very hard to find your match to any criteria you desire. They will also tell you frankly which girls give better service than others, who has a sweeter personality, etc.

If your preference doesn't currently exist in the club, most servers will try to convince you of the girls they know outside the club and say quietly they have zillions of girls on the cell phones waiting to meet you outside the clubs. (Be forewarned: Unless they just ask the streetwalker next to you, it takes forever for them to contact the girl, for the girl to find a babysitter, for the girl to get a taxi, for the taxi to get lost and finally arrive, for you to see whether the girl even appeals to you, for the negotiation phase to start, and to get to it.)

I was the only customer in Club 69 during the afternoon; 2 of eight or so girls were nice. In Bolerio, there were about eight girls, none of whom attracted me, but Mexicans seem to like more meaty and busty, while I prefer little SE Asian girls or Mexican substitutes for them. I saw the facade of Lust, but don't think it was open. On the west, Obsessions generally had 2–3 of eight or more attractive girls—my favorite. Quickly, I stopped wasting my time surveying all the options and just went there first, if I didn't want to deal with the time required to get a pimp to do something.

PIMPS.

This can be the cheapest option, if one negotiates well. It can be time consuming and irritating. It seems somewhat hit or miss, and one can loose a lot of money. You don't have a club to go back to and complain, either.

These pimps are all over the place. Almost every guy, servers in the clubs to massage managers to pimps to taxi drivers to bums, become pimps, if they perceive you are a single guy. If asked in confidence, very few will say they won't do a deal outside the business they serve.

These pimps can find someone immediately, if you're desperate (usually they just go to a streetwalker or call a neighbor next to their apartment in the area) ; but, to get a better selection according to your taste, it can take hours: They call, the girl negotiates, finds a baby sitter, gets a taxi, etc, and it's all in "southern time zone" fashion—that is they don't worry about fast service or arriving on time. Anywhere in the area, you will be befriended by them, esp. If you don't look determined and don't meet eyes when walking. I could merely be eating breakfast, and a mexican highschool student flirting with two highschool girls, for instance, turned around and asked me directly if I 'wanted to have fun' and gave me his cell phone number.

Tony (Chalango) works for Obsession generally. He is posted south of the club on the west corner after about 8PM, but also at other times. He will work at any time of the day, if you have his contact number. He seems a little slimy and drinks, but he is hardworking and can deliver. In the end, Tony seems honest; and, according to other reviewers, he is the best. I initially had bad results with him several times (probably from communication) , but one good experience at the end with him. He has a range of girls, from the seasoned professionals to the newer to the profession. He does not always hit the mark with your type, but got better with time.

There are other guys who you get to know, such as Ceser. They are pimps, yes, but end up being employed by one of the clubs, often. There is quite a nice, reliable guy I will mention elsewhere, who tries very hard, delivers, and so forth, but isn't really part of this street pimp network—more of a family man.

MASSAGE PARLORS.

Of the establishments, these are the cheapest options and require little negotiation for a decent price: Pretty straightforward. They generally have some of the sweetest girls but the least attractive. Prices are something like 200 pesos for the house and 400–600 for the girl, totalling around 800 pesos for 1 hr w / massage, room, and full service included. One doesn't need to rent a hotel room and one doesn't leave a trail for others to discover you've been 'active' on your travels.

I liked the guys working at Osiris, south of Obsessions. Jose, there, is an especially nice and sincere guy. He makes a good offer right off, tries hard, and delivers. He'll let you interact with the girls extensively to see what you think and accepts your decision if you don't like the selections. He is mostly a manager, not a street pimp. He does know nice girls who don't work professionally.

STREET WALKERS (GIRLS)

Very few street walkers exist, perhaps because of the high local police presence. They will disappear when the Federales (state police) drive by. Independent girls are scared of the latter. There were only two I saw during the week (both just south of Obsessions) , and they were there every night. Many available and generally unattractive girls clubbing can be found duty in Regis Bar and Bora Bora (kind of fat girls who hang out in this desolate place) , along with massage girls and some club girls off duty (but available). The price should be around $80/1 hr for a girl or lower; as it turns out, this will be the price with a pimp. Nearly all girls are managed by pimps; I was never able to do any direct negotiation with girls.

After the first meeting, girls will often give their cell (if they liked you) or even ask for yours: I suspect one can then do direct dealing with the girl to mutual benefit. I did not try, as I was there in Nogales only a few days. After returning to the US, one girl has written me several times to let me know where and how to contact her—and she is hot! Another sweetie, an available non-professional, also did the same after meeting me once.

NOTE.

This border town is controlled by two mafias, who are in a truce. The train tracks are the dividing point. Don't get messed up with them. Don't go up into the hills, without protection-and I don't mean the stuff against STDs. I mean you have the protection of someone in the correct mafia. These aren't little gangs, but very serious organizations.

[Chica Luv]

AZ82 Sounds like you had a good time, and R getting into the groove of Nogales Sonora.

I've only been down a couple times in the last few months, but it seems that arranging dates with the club-girls both before and / or after their shifts is getting easier. It is usually all about $$$. When they don't make enough $$$ at work they are certainly willing to make the extra funds outside the clubs.

Of course the more time (and money) you spent DEVELOPING 'friendships' with these girls the more rewarding it usually is, at least for me. I've found that after repeated visits, many of these gals start getting CLOSE and go the extra mile with regard to their services provided.

Another thing that I discovered over the months / years is that girls that DO NOT have family (ie kids waiting for them to get home from work) in Nogales quite often will want to spend the night with you in your hotel room. Most of these gals never ask for more than what the hourly rate was. Of course, we often had room service from the bar and restaurant, plenty of Heat / AC, color cable TV, breakfast together the next morning. Etc.

I have had numerous gals spend the night and the total bill was 800-1000pesos, plus the cost of breakfast. Some of these gals would want to stay with me the entire time I was in town. 1-3 days. We would go out to eat, shopping (not buying) , go to the movies, and of course LOTs of adult fun. In the end, I would usually give them about 1000-1200pesos per day. Of course I would try to plan my trips so that I would be in Nogales start Sunday morning and would stay Mon & Tue and leave Wed noon (hotel checkout time). There are usually slowest days in the clubs, and most gals are excited about making the extra $$$, especially on their days off.

Oh the good ole days! Now days, I have a Mexican / American girlfriend (born & raised in the USA). She keeps me pretty satisfied. I do like a little STRANGE now & then but don't really have the time.

AZ82, thanks for the post and keep up the good work.

CL.


I decided in the last minute to go to Nogales after over a month. All the best,

AZ82

[Arizonan82]

AZ82 Sounds like you had a good time, and R getting into the groove of Nogales Sonora.

I've only been down a couple times in the last few months, but it seems that arranging dates with the club-girls both before and / or after their shifts is getting easier. It is usually all about $$$. When they don't make enough $$$ at work they are certainly willing to make the extra funds outside the clubs.

Of course the more time (and money) you spent DEVELOPING 'friendships' with these girls the more rewarding it usually is, at least for me. I've found that after repeated visits, many of these gals start getting CLOSE and go the extra mile with regard to their services provided.

Another thing that I discovered over the months / years is that girls that DO NOT have family (ie kids waiting for them to get home from work) in Nogales quite often will want to spend the night with you in your hotel room. Most of these gals never ask for more than what the hourly rate was. Of course, we often had room service from the bar and restaurant, plenty of Heat / AC, color cable TV, breakfast together the next morning. Etc.

I have had numerous gals spend the night and the total bill was 800-1000pesos, plus the cost of breakfast. Some of these gals would want to stay with me the entire time I was in town. 1-3 days. We would go out to eat, shopping (not buying) , go to the movies, and of course LOTs of adult fun. In the end, I would usually give them about 1000-1200pesos per day. Of course I would try to plan my trips so that I would be in Nogales start Sunday morning and would stay Mon & Tue and leave Wed noon (hotel checkout time). There are usually slowest days in the clubs, and most gals are excited about making the extra $$$, especially on their days off.

Oh the good ole days! Now days, I have a Mexican / American girlfriend (born & raised in the USA). She keeps me pretty satisfied. I do like a little STRANGE now & then but don't really have the time.

AZ82, thanks for the post and keep up the good work.

CL.Hello, CL,

I should be thanking you for all the posts on this forum. The strategies / techniques I have been using down in Nogales I learned here, mostly from yours and Lobo's posts.

Anyways, as I have mentioned before, I have been going out with one of the girls that works at one of the strip-clubs. She is sweet, nice, and very good at what she does, but she has kids at home and is not willing to spend the night with me.

If you do not mind sharing the phone numbers of those ladies who do not have kids and you enjoyed their company, please let me know. One option, would be to meet somewhere in Tucson (I am assuming that is where you live, correct? And since I cannot receive PM's as far as I am concerned, I might be wrong though) on a weekend. If you mind, I respect your decision and I can work out something else.

All the best,

AZ82

[NiceMusic]

Yes, that is really what I'm looking for. A girl to hang out with all night, go around town, and perhaps travel around that area of Mexico. If it turns out to be a girlfriend, that's good. If not but just a GFE, that's quite good, in my experience. I've really had much more success at this in SE Asia and have been consistently disappointed in Mexico, in this regard.

But, I haven't found those girls you talk about: Ones without kids or boyfriends. If you don't mind, maybe you can give us more concrete hints (phone numbers or methods to find) in PM? I'm a real nice guy who treats them very well-like girlfriends-but I could apparently use the help.

NM.


AZ82 Sounds like you had a good time, and R getting into the groove of Nogales Sonora.

I've only been down a couple times in the last few months, but it seems that arranging dates with the club-girls both before and / or after their shifts is getting easier. It is usually all about $$$. When they don't make enough $$$ at work they are certainly willing to make the extra funds outside the clubs.

Of course the more time (and money) you spent DEVELOPING 'friendships' with these girls the more rewarding it usually is, at least for me. I've found that after repeated visits, many of these gals start getting CLOSE and go the extra mile with regard to their services provided.

Another thing that I discovered over the months / years is that girls that DO NOT have family (ie kids waiting for them to get home from work) in Nogales quite often will want to spend the night with you in your hotel room. Most of these gals never ask for more than what the hourly rate was. Of course, we often had room service from the bar and restaurant, plenty of Heat / AC, color cable TV, breakfast together the next morning. Etc.

I have had numerous gals spend the night and the total bill was 800-1000pesos, plus the cost of breakfast. Some of these gals would want to stay with me the entire time I was in town. 1-3 days. We would go out to eat, shopping (not buying) , go to the movies, and of course LOTs of adult fun. In the end, I would usually give them about 1000-1200pesos per day. Of course I would try to plan my trips so that I would be in Nogales start Sunday morning and would stay Mon & Tue and leave Wed noon (hotel checkout time). There are usually slowest days in the clubs, and most gals are excited about making the extra $$$, especially on their days off.

Oh the good ole days! Now days, I have a Mexican / American girlfriend (born & raised in the USA). She keeps me pretty satisfied. I do like a little STRANGE now & then but don't really have the time.

AZ82, thanks for the post and keep up the good work.

CL.

[Chica Luv]

Recommend two options:

1-Spend several days in Nogales. Some girls only work Thurs, Fri & Sat as that is when most of the business is in town.

Sun-Wed being the best days for getting the best deals and meeting girls that really need the money. Also, there is less business for you to compete with.

.Meet and talk to as many girls as possible.

.Determine which ones you like that don't have family / kids in Nogales.

.Give them a test drive to see if there is enough chemistry to continue.

.Spend short, then increasing lengths of time together.

2-Contact Tony.

-His phone number is listed in another report.

-Text him (he has basic English skills) is BEST.

-Tell him what you are looking for.

-Set up appointment to meet the girls he finds for you.

.During the interview process, talk about money & your near-term desires upfront.

.Proceed slowly. Too many demands, to quick can scare off potential girlfriends.

.BE NICE & POLITE.

Again, I have spent LOTs of hours, days, weeks & months sorting through different women. Based on those experiences, I've outlined what I think is the best way of going about finding what you want. Unless you are extremely lucky, you have to put in the hours.

CL.


Yes, that is really what I'm looking for. A girl to hang out with all night, go around town, and perhaps travel around that area of Mexico. If it turns out to be a girlfriend, that's good. If not but just a GFE, that's quite good, in my experience. I've really had much more success at this in SE Asia and have been consistently disappointed in Mexico, in this regard.

But, I haven't found those girls you talk about: Ones without kids or boyfriends. If you don't mind, maybe you can give us more concrete hints (phone numbers or methods to find) in PM? I'm a real nice guy who treats them very well-like girlfriends-but I could apparently use the help.

NM.

[Stripper Luv]

I was supposed to be headed to Nogales tomorrow, Saturday, to celebrate our third anniversary with my esposa. She called me early today and asked that I come down today, Friday, because she needed me to do something. When I got there, she had a surprise anniversary party arranged at her club, Boleiros. Our friends (both those in the business and not in the business) were there, she prepared all sorts of delicious food, and a cake. We had the club to ourselves because it wasn't quite open yet. So we took the opportunity to bang our brains out where ever we wanted. The manager is a good guy and he let the party go on without any hassles. It was a fun way to begin the day with my Mexican honey. We've known each other since 1993 and been fucking ever since. Finally, three years ago she decided to make an honest man out of me even though she's the one with the reputation as the notorious, well-known, infamous club girl in Nogales. Life is good. She's got a big heart (among other things) and she makes me happy. So, our nineteen-year relationship and three-year declaration of love was celebrated today. It was a good day.

[Arizonan82]

I have benefited so much from this forum so now is my turn to contribute to it. I wished some of the other members did the same.

I went back to Nogales again this past Monday night, Feb 20. I am not sure if I should be proud or ashamed of myself for going there often. (I have been there three times in the last five weeks) I say proud because after reading several posts and being able to speak Spanish, I have learned how to have fun with Mexican ladies for a reasonable price. (Before knowing this forum, I would pay at least twice as much) On the other hand, I say ashamed because the whole idea of directly paying for sex bothers me sometimes. Most things in life have a price and sex, with no commitment with different cute ladies whenever I feel like, is one of those. In the past, I limited myself to not having sex with cute ladies because I had other priorities in my life, such as school. However, since I am going through a stressful and challenging stage in my life, it is a healthy and fun way to release stress. Also, I do not want to commit the mistake of my past, I. E, the mistake of letting cute ladies walk away without having fun with them first.

Anyways, let us talk about my experience in Nogales. As some of you may know from my previous posts, I have been having fun with the same lady in my last three visits to Nogales. I know it defeats the purpose of trying out different girls, but this one is a good GFE experience. She provides a good service, I can have a decent conversation with her, she does not rush, and above all, charges a very reasonable price. I usually spend $ 120 dollars plus $ 20 bucks for the room for about 3 hours with her. Of course I treat her nicely and usually take small gifts to her.

I had texted her a few days back because I wanted her to ask for a day off from work, so she could show me around town as she had suggested before. She texted me back saying to meet her at work because she was not able to get the day off. I arrived at the Club 69 where she works, and she was busy with other a customer. As soon as she went to stage, I gave her a tip, and asked her if I could see her after her shift ended as we usually do it. She said that she was leaving at 10pm, which is unusual since her shift ends at 8pm. I continued to hang out at the Strip Club, talking to the waiters, and decide to leave since I was getting bored. There were not girls of my type there. Then I decided to go to Boleiros. The second shift girls were arriving. There were a few 8's and 9's, totaling 8 girls. I asked three girls for their phone numbers, and they declined claiming that management did not allow them to do that and that they did not work outside the club. I guess they did not like me. That is too bad for them. Oh well, what can I do? Move on to next girl. I had a few drinks and then decided for a 2-1 privado for 250 pesos. I picked this cute lady. She is the type of girl I like, with wide hips and thick thighs, which were proportional to her body. I had a bad experience in the privado. She was only interested in convincing me for FS at $180. She was not at all interested in pleasing me. I asked for her phone number and explained that she would be getting more money if she worked outside the club, but she repeatedly declined. That was too bad for her. After time was up, I left Boleiros without hesitation.

By this time I was hungry. I went to a place in front of Fray Marcos (I do not remember the name). It is a sports bar as well. Good Fajitas with beans, rice, tortillas and guacamole for $ 8 bucks. After that I headed for Salon Regis to wait Ms 69 to text me. On my way, I bumped into Tony. I wanted to talk to him last time I was in Nogales, but I was not able to find him. I told him I was waiting for Ms 69 to text me, but I had this feeling she was going to stand me up, so I asked him if he had any girls available right away. He said he had only one. At least she was better than no one.

At Salon Regis, there was almost nobody. I ordered some drinks while I was waiting Ms 69's text. I had texted her about 30 minutes earlier asking her If we still were meeting shortly after 10pm, after her shift had ended. I waited till about 1025 pm and no text. I was so pissed that Ms 69 had stood me up. The previous three times we met, she had arrived on time and she knew I had a gift for her. I guess another customer who was paying more was benefitting from her services or maybe her boss asked her to work a double shift, which she told me had happened before. I do not mind at all since it is her source of income. But come on just send me a text letting me know she could not make it.

Anyways, I was very pissed and did not want to go back home without getting laid. I left Salon Regis and went to talk to Tony who was at his usual spot. I wanted to try one of the girls he had to offer since my last visit to Nogales. I told him I did not want to wait because I was getting tired and needed to be back home the same night. He brought me this girl, who was available right away, I would rate her a 7, cute face, but a little too skinny for me, but at this point in time I was up for that type of girl. This lady was too shy (I prefer outgoing girls) , and she did not want to perform oral sex because she had a piercing in her mouth placed recently, but at least she had a tight pussy and moaned and pulled my hair like few did before. After the negotiations with Tony, the final price with the room included was $ 70. Not bad for the experience, besides the limited services offered.

After the girl left, I told Tony I wanted someone my type next time and would give him several hours for him to contact them. He asked what type of girls I preferred. I told him I preferred a girl who is at least 25 but not older than early to mid 30's (these girls tend to be more experienced and I can usually hold a decent conversation with them, which turns me on) , friendly, fit, with wide hips and thick thighs, of course proportional to her body and wanting to please. At last I told him, girls with great personality are a plus. I do not want girls who are a 10, but arrogant. That pisses me off, and I do not enjoy the experience as much. He emphasized to text him a few hours in advance so he can bring me more than one girl to choose from and then have a few drinks to see if I like her personality.

Overall it was not a bad time, despite Ms 69 standing me up, and having to get a rushed / desperate alternate plan. Hopefully I will have a better time and luck in Nogales during my next visit.

UPDATE: As I was ready to update this post, I received a text from Ms 69 saying that she apologized for standing me up. She explained she had a customer who stayed very late and the manager only allowed her to leave after the customer did. I guess that is a legitimate explanation. However, next time I go to Nogales, I will contact Tony and get some different girl. I am up for the variety.

AZ82

[Start123]

Dude! You were paying 120 green ones plus the room. Holy shit! That girl must have been a 10+ supermodel who is a nympho! You realize you were nothing special to her. As she showed you later, just another customer who overpays. You can have any girl in Nogales for 50 bucks! If she doesn't agree that means she is completely disgusted by you and sex wouldn't be good anyway.

Waiting for her with a gift. LOL.

Your experiences in clubs are also typical. They don't want their girls do business outside and the girls would rather comply with that than lose the job because of one customer. The dances are a complete rip off, for this much money you can do the same at your local strip club and be safe.

Another thoughts: it's not a good idea to tour Nogales. I met a guy who is connected with the wrong kind of people who told me about how things work in Nogi. How it is divided and the bottom line, don't go anywhere far exploring. You can become a victim just because some guy thought you looked at him funny or for any other insignificant reason. It is safe in the ares where the clubs are, but don't go anywhere else unless you got a trusted guide.

Nogales as a mongering destination has become too dangerous. I haven't been there since I went with Chicaluv, thanks again man for showing me around and introducing to Tony.

I don't think I'll be going there soon. I better save money for more fun and safe destinations.


I have benefited so much from this forum so now is my turn to contribute to it. I wished some of the other members did the same.

I went back to Nogales again this past Monday night, Feb 20. I am not sure if I should be proud or ashamed of myself for going there often. (I have been there three times in the last five weeks) I say proud because after reading several posts and being able to speak Spanish, I have learned how to have fun with Mexican ladies for a reasonable price. (Before knowing this forum, I would pay at least twice as much) On the other hand, I say ashamed because the whole idea of directly paying for sex bothers me sometimes. Most things in life have a price and sex, with no commitment with different cute ladies whenever I feel like, is one of those. In the past, I limited myself to not having sex with cute ladies because I had other priorities in my life, such as school. However, since I am going through a stressful and challenging stage in my life, it is a healthy and fun way to release stress. Also, I do not want to commit the mistake of my past, I. E, the mistake of letting cute ladies walk away without having fun with them first.

Anyways, let us talk about my experience in Nogales. As some of you may know from my previous posts, I have been having fun with the same lady in my last three visits to Nogales. I know it defeats the purpose of trying out different girls, but this one is a good GFE experience. She provides a good service, I can have a decent conversation with her, she does not rush, and above all, charges a very reasonable price. I usually spend $ 120 dollars plus $ 20 bucks for the room for about 3 hours with her. Of course I treat her nicely and usually take small gifts to her.

I had texted her a few days back because I wanted her to ask for a day off from work, so she could show me around town as she had suggested before. She texted me back saying to meet her at work because she was not able to get the day off. I arrived at the Club 69 where she works, and she was busy with other a customer. As soon as she went to stage, I gave her a tip, and asked her if I could see her after her shift ended as we usually do it. She said that she was leaving at 10pm, which is unusual since her shift ends at 8pm. I continued to hang out at the Strip Club, talking to the waiters, and decide to leave since I was getting bored. There were not girls of my type there. Then I decided to go to Boleiros. The second shift girls were arriving. There were a few 8's and 9's, totaling 8 girls. I asked three girls for their phone numbers, and they declined claiming that management did not allow them to do that and that they did not work outside the club. I guess they did not like me. That is too bad for them. Oh well, what can I do? Move on to next girl. I had a few drinks and then decided for a 2-1 privado for 250 pesos. I picked this cute lady. She is the type of girl I like, with wide hips and thick thighs, which were proportional to her body. I had a bad experience in the privado. She was only interested in convincing me for FS at $180. She was not at all interested in pleasing me. I asked for her phone number and explained that she would be getting more money if she worked outside the club, but she repeatedly declined. That was too bad for her. After time was up, I left Boleiros without hesitation.

By this time I was hungry. I went to a place in front of Fray Marcos (I do not remember the name). It is a sports bar as well. Good Fajitas with beans, rice, tortillas and guacamole for $ 8 bucks. After that I headed for Salon Regis to wait Ms 69 to text me. On my way, I bumped into Tony. I wanted to talk to him last time I was in Nogales, but I was not able to find him. I told him I was waiting for Ms 69 to text me, but I had this feeling she was going to stand me up, so I asked him if he had any girls available right away. He said he had only one. At least she was better than no one.

At Salon Regis, there was almost nobody. I ordered some drinks while I was waiting Ms 69's text. I had texted her about 30 minutes earlier asking her If we still were meeting shortly after 10pm, after her shift had ended. I waited till about 1025 pm and no text. I was so pissed that Ms 69 had stood me up. The previous three times we met, she had arrived on time and she knew I had a gift for her. I guess another customer who was paying more was benefitting from her services or maybe her boss asked her to work a double shift, which she told me had happened before. I do not mind at all since it is her source of income. But come on just send me a text letting me know she could not make it.

Anyways, I was very pissed and did not want to go back home without getting laid. I left Salon Regis and went to talk to Tony who was at his usual spot. I wanted to try one of the girls he had to offer since my last visit to Nogales. I told him I did not want to wait because I was getting tired and needed to be back home the same night. He brought me this girl, who was available right away, I would rate her a 7, cute face, but a little too skinny for me, but at this point in time I was up for that type of girl. This lady was too shy (I prefer outgoing girls) , and she did not want to perform oral sex because she had a piercing in her mouth placed recently, but at least she had a tight pussy and moaned and pulled my hair like few did before. After the negotiations with Tony, the final price with the room included was $ 70. Not bad for the experience, besides the limited services offered.

After the girl left, I told Tony I wanted someone my type next time and would give him several hours for him to contact them. He asked what type of girls I preferred. I told him I preferred a girl who is at least 25 but not older than early to mid 30's (these girls tend to be more experienced and I can usually hold a decent conversation with them, which turns me on) , friendly, fit, with wide hips and thick thighs, of course proportional to her body and wanting to please. At last I told him, girls with great personality are a plus. I do not want girls who are a 10, but arrogant. That pisses me off, and I do not enjoy the experience as much. He emphasized to text him a few hours in advance so he can bring me more than one girl to choose from and then have a few drinks to see if I like her personality.

Overall it was not a bad time, despite Ms 69 standing me up, and having to get a rushed / desperate alternate plan. Hopefully I will have a better time and luck in Nogales during my next visit.

UPDATE: As I was ready to update this post, I received a text from Ms 69 saying that she apologized for standing me up. She explained she had a customer who stayed very late and the manager only allowed her to leave after the customer did. I guess that is a legitimate explanation. However, next time I go to Nogales, I will contact Tony and get some different girl. I am up for the variety.

AZ82

[Arizonan82]

I decided to go to Nogales this past Friday. As I had decided after my previous visit, I wanted to try one of the girls Tony has to offer. I texted a couple of days mentioning to him the day and time I would be in Nogales, so he could get me a few girls so then I could pick one of my taste. He did not reply, so I figured maybe he was out of units / credits on his cell phone. Anyways, this time I decided to check Osiris MP, since my last time there was about three months ago. There were only four girls, ranging from 5-7 and not my type. So, I decided to check out the other MP, Eros. There were only two girls there, ranging from 6-7. They were not at all interested in introducing themselves. They preferred to focus on the 'telenovela' on tv.

Afterwards, I decided to go to my favorite strip club in Nogales, Studio 69. The last time I was there, Ms 69 (my ATF in Nogales, so far) was busy with a customer and stoop me up afterwards. She apologized by texting the following day with a legitimate excuse. Since I had texted her once after my last visit in Nogales and she did not reply, I decided not to text her about my visit this time. I wanted to surprise her. That was what happened. When I arrived there, I saw her at the bar. She looked at me and not believing who she was seeing, she took another look and then to make sure, she walked to the place where I was sitting. Damn she was hotter on her stripper outfit. She apologized once again for standing me up, and I told her I understood her. Since Tony had not replied to my text, even though I wanted some variety and also I did not see girls of my type at 69, I then scheduled our 'appointment' at 8pm at Salon Regis. She agreed and promised she would be there. I still hat time to enjoy my time at 69, had a few drinks, tipped my ATF, and decided to head out and eat. I knew I needed energy for later.

I arrived at Salon Regis just before 8pm, and my ATF was already there. We started talking about life. And she told me she had to pawn her cell phone, and she apologized if she did not reply to any messages I had sent. I said to myself, damn things must to be tough for her. She said she has been missing several days at work because she had been sick. Actually, I was lucky to find her there because she thought about not going to work because she was feeling sick earlier that day. She was more talkative than usual. She told me she felt more comfortable around me and that she enjoyed my company. She told me about her plans to go back to school, to get a more respectable job because she feels ashamed of what she does, but she needs money to support her 4 kids. She was indeed very open about her life. I had this awkward feeling of us being a couple.

Then, we headed to the hotel and the fun started. From previous encounters I realized she loved DFK, and she confirmed. We started kissing and she was very 'aggressive' with her tongue which turned me on very, very quickly. I realized the intimacy we were having during foreplay, something that Chica Luv had mentioned. 'The more you see these girls, the closer they get, and the more pleasurable, intimate and rewarding the experience is' He is damn right. After I realized she was wet for penetration, we started having sex. It felt divinely good to penetrate that wet pussy. And it felt even better when she started moaning and saying 'asi, asi, asi, que rico, quiero mas, mas, ' that turned me on even more. I started with a deeper and faster penetration which in turn led her to moan even louder. She then started gently biting my arm (luckily I do not have a wife or girlfriend, because she left me some marks) which then motivated me to fuck her even faster and deeper, until she came and I got to see the smile on her face. I ended coming on her tits per her request. What a pleasurable feeling. I was sweating like crazy, but very happy. We continued to talk more and then cuddle. Then, I asked to perform her specialty, BBBJ. It was a great one. She definitely knows how to give pleasure to a man with her mouth. Per my request I came on her butt. At the end we were both very relaxed, as she said: 'Estoy bien Dalai, ' which meant she was very relaxed. She would able to sleep like a baby because she had been 'bien cogida' well fucked. That was what she needed.

After our fantastic time together, and another great GFE with her, I took my ATF to get a cab and then saw Tony at his usual spot. He apologized for not texting me back claiming he did not receive my message. Whatever, I said to myself. It was not meant to be. It was meant to see my ATF and fuck her real good.

Next time, I will make sure I get some coffee on the drive back home. I was so damned relaxed that I almost killed myself on that winding road.

I also realized, as mentioned earlier, my ATF. Ms 69 is getting closer and intimate with me. This can go both ways: the positive and the negative one. Hopefully, it goes the positive way.

[Chica Luv]

Actually, $120. 00 is about the going rate if you make a deal for a girl WHILE she is working inside the club. The fact that AZ82 got 3 hours instead of the 1 speaks well of his skills. Good Job!

I personally don't consider Nogales TOO dangerous for mongering. If you keep your wits about you, use common sense, don't flash LOTs of money around, stay close to the border and well known clubs, your chances of being in danger are pretty slim.

I this Nogales is a great place to go, and travel there whenever possible.

Have fun,

CL.


Dude! You were paying 120 green ones plus the room. Holy shit! That girl must have been a 10+ supermodel who is a nympho! You realize you were nothing special to her. As she showed you later, just another customer who overpays. You can have any girl in Nogales for 50 bucks! If she doesn't agree that means she is completely disgusted by you and sex wouldn't be good anyway.

Nogales as a mongering destination has become too dangerous. I haven't been there since I went with Chicaluv, thanks again man for showing me around and introducing to Tony.

I don't think I'll be going there soon. I better save money for more fun and safe destinations.

[Chica Luv]

Great post.

The only thing that I might add is w / re to GFs and hotels.

I only stay at the Fray Marcos. They "TRY" and charge me the going rate, but I remind them that I ALWAYs pay about 625. 00 After a few minutes they seem to find that new rate. Also, I tip the door / elevator guy about 50 pesos. NEVER had a problem taking girls up to my room.

I made 'arrangements' with one of the club girls to come to my hotel after she gets off work (which is the case about 95% of the time). If they arrive during normal working hours, from about 8am to about 12 midnight I meet them in the hotel bar. IF they are coming over after they get off at 2:30AM, I give the doorman a 50 pesos tip when I go up to my room ask him to bring her up when she arrives.

Always works!

Of course, I usually treat the late-night doorman and desk clerk to Peros Caliente (street vendor hot dogs) as I am coming in form my last run of the night, before heading up to wait on the late-night shift girl to arrive.

Have fun.

CL.


Nogales, Sonora (MX).

Although not close to the ease, lacks the variety, and has few high-quality choices compared to those of Tijuana, all the necessary options are readily available within a five-min walk from the border crossing, on either side of the main road south into Nogales, Sonora. It takes no great effort to know it all, as men will approach you anytime of the day or night with offers, if you are a lone Caucasian walking slowly. Drugs are readily available, but I don't do them. Other than knowing price ranges for whatever you're seeking, a guy needs to do very little research. The options come to you–they are desperate to get work.

The city is hurting economically, with few tourist and lots of deportees. It is not a beautiful place and has little to offer a tourist, esp. Now that most tourist shops are closed after the economic meltdown several years ago. Despite this, Nogales is not particularly cheap in nearly any regard, except for questionable taco stands. (The trustworthy restaurant are much more expensive.) Safety for tourist seems less of an issue, if you stick to those 'tourist areas' and don't do stupid things. Still random things can happen, and did to me.

One should note that nearly everybody in the area, girls, the hawkers, and the club owners, know each other. This may not be apparent to at first. In fact, pimps, clubs, etc, are often offering the same girls, just through different vendors ('strip' clubs, pimps, massage parlors, etc.). Street walkers are rare, and I think still depend on pimps to do the negotiating and looking after.

The offers (cost) will range over the map, even from the same people for the same girls on different nights. They try to gauge you from your attitude, approach, and appearance. Clubs and massage places give you immediate satisfaction, if you do the deed inside. You also don't have to go through the pain of seeing one girl at a time and rejecting each until you get what you want. You can see the choices. In the end, it seems one pays the same negotiated price, whether the girl is high or low quality–so just keep insisting until you get what you want.

Whatever you schedule outside those establishments, it seems to take more hours more than one expects-it isn't generally immediate like we're used to in SE Asia. When negotiating price, the men will always *act* as your advocate, but remember that nearly all of them are really working for someone and personally needing to make a profit off of you. They can however get a good price for you, if they are making up for a severe screw up on their part. Nearly everyone along the way will ask for a tip: $5 will generally satisfy most people, but $10 will please them, even if they walk you for two minutes from the bridge to the front of a club. Especially outside the club, the girl will probably want a tip afterwards, and they are good at working you to get that money.

All girls have children and the stretch marks can be extensive; and, many have husbands / boyfriends, often unrelated to their children. So, overnights can be difficult to achieve, even if they agree to it; I. E, they just walk out after their 'job' is done. Recommendation for Nogales: Demand that you will pay at the end; if they will not agree to this, there are many more options from numerous places. If you walk away, they'll probably agree anyways.

On the East (left) of immediately going over the border from the USA to Mexico, Club 69, Bolerio, and Eros massage. None of these are frequented as often, and their girls don't seem quite as attractive. They are more desperate for work, however, and their prices might be negotiated lower. On the West (right of the border) is Obsessions (club) and a massage place called Osiris south of there, surprisingly in a shopping market.

There can be problems with inviting girls into the named hotels, even after you have asked whether they are girl friendly. Any young-looking girls must now have an I'd, even if they are over 18 years old–recently, authorities arrested an African-American man, who was caught with a 15-yr-old and the hotels are clearly freaked out by the authorities. There are however plenty of back-alley hotels (crappy) , which don't ask questions, in the case your girl doesn't bring an I'd. This happened to me twice; but, I ensured they were above 18 yrs in other ways. (Don't put yourself into a Mexican prison for 25 years, please, by being stupid!) So, I once had to pay for a second hotel at a rate of 150 pesos / session or so; the Frontera would be a convenient example of this type of hotel. I'm told to avoid the mafia and other elements at the California hotel. And, I had trouble with a religious security guard at a well-established GF hotel: Had I not been insistent and argued unpleasantly, I would have been in another hotel again that night. Of the respectable accommodation options, the Regis is by far the best quality for the cost (400 pesos). I stayed at Olivia, which is not that great and more expensive (470-700 pesos with 50pesos deposit). The Fran Marcos is the best and fanciest hotel of the area at 795+150 pesos deposit.

"STRIP" CLUBS.

These are brothels, although the girls do dance and strip their tops. They all dance in a Latin style. A few are good, but none are excellent dancers, unlike one or two I saw at my favorite place in Tijuana.

These clubs are consistently the most expensive of all the options. But, one can deal them down a lot, with the right person negotiating. One also can see all the girls at once and pick the type you like. You can also talk with them beforehand, if personality or English skills matter to you.

Near these clubs, scruffy men will want to get a commission for bringing you in. From what I can tell, your cover—when requested—will be the same amount, whether they get their commission. The clubs may, but not always, charge you a cover, which usually will mean you get a beer or even a beer and a shot of vodka for a few dollars—actually a good deal for you, if you wish to get intoxicated. If you look hesitant or likely to hire a lady already, they will probably waive it. They want money and have a business relationship with the bouncer and club.

Around the corner from the clubs, interestingly, these same men will try to give you offers outside the clubs at discounts. In fact, they will see you looking on the bridge a few blocks away and try to flag you down. Nearly all offers will be high, and prices will descend as you ponder and seem on the edge. Some will get desperate after a long negotiation and you can see them hit a point where they can go no further without squeezing money from others involved (they are loath to do that and won't generally).

The amenities, dances, and drink prices of all the border clubs are all equivalent in cost, and the quality of the rooms among all three "strip" clubs were similar. The 69, I believe has 'rooms' that are on upstairs looking down upon the club—I find that less appealing personally. Even though people downstairs can't see anything, I'm told, I like a better sense of privacy.

You can generally get a beer for $4, lady drink for $12. Lap dance about $6 and private dance at $23. 1 hr in the back room for $130 (day) to $150 (night or extremely young) , but they will ask much more from $150 to $200. Take out will start at $300 for 2 hrs but I was able to get it down to $180. Towards the end of a shift, they get desperate and prices can drop quickly.

Having lived in the US, Sergio at 69 club speaks English at 69 club: 631-125-1477. He seems upstanding and serves his club well. This sort of deportee, who worked in the US for years, is not hard to find—they can sometimes speak English very well and get our culture better.

Each club will often be many more girls than customers and the Mexicans there will often not hire (they may not have the money for more than drinks) , but that doesn't mean the servers (pimps) will start with reasonable prices for the girls. The servers inside will attempt to build a business relationship with you to the exclusion of the other servers. They do provide good service. After getting you a drink, it will only take a few minutes before they start leading girls by the hand to sit with you and trying to clench a deal. It is hard to tell them that you just want to watch and select yourself. At your request, they will try very hard to find your match to any criteria you desire. They will also tell you frankly which girls give better service than others, who has a sweeter personality, etc.

If your preference doesn't currently exist in the club, most servers will try to convince you of the girls they know outside the club and say quietly they have zillions of girls on the cell phones waiting to meet you outside the clubs. (Be forewarned: Unless they just ask the streetwalker next to you, it takes forever for them to contact the girl, for the girl to find a babysitter, for the girl to get a taxi, for the taxi to get lost and finally arrive, for you to see whether the girl even appeals to you, for the negotiation phase to start, and to get to it.)

I was the only customer in Club 69 during the afternoon; 2 of eight or so girls were nice. In Bolerio, there were about eight girls, none of whom attracted me, but Mexicans seem to like more meaty and busty, while I prefer little SE Asian girls or Mexican substitutes for them. I saw the facade of Lust, but don't think it was open. On the west, Obsessions generally had 2–3 of eight or more attractive girls—my favorite. Quickly, I stopped wasting my time surveying all the options and just went there first, if I didn't want to deal with the time required to get a pimp to do something.

PIMPS.

This can be the cheapest option, if one negotiates well. It can be time consuming and irritating. It seems somewhat hit or miss, and one can loose a lot of money. You don't have a club to go back to and complain, either.

These pimps are all over the place. Almost every guy, servers in the clubs to massage managers to pimps to taxi drivers to bums, become pimps, if they perceive you are a single guy. If asked in confidence, very few will say they won't do a deal outside the business they serve.

These pimps can find someone immediately, if you're desperate (usually they just go to a streetwalker or call a neighbor next to their apartment in the area) ; but, to get a better selection according to your taste, it can take hours: They call, the girl negotiates, finds a baby sitter, gets a taxi, etc, and it's all in "southern time zone" fashion—that is they don't worry about fast service or arriving on time. Anywhere in the area, you will be befriended by them, esp. If you don't look determined and don't meet eyes when walking. I could merely be eating breakfast, and a mexican highschool student flirting with two highschool girls, for instance, turned around and asked me directly if I 'wanted to have fun' and gave me his cell phone number.

Tony (Chalango) works for Obsession generally. He is posted south of the club on the west corner after about 8PM, but also at other times. He will work at any time of the day, if you have his contact number. He seems a little slimy and drinks, but he is hardworking and can deliver. In the end, Tony seems honest; and, according to other reviewers, he is the best. I initially had bad results with him several times (probably from communication) , but one good experience at the end with him. He has a range of girls, from the seasoned professionals to the newer to the profession. He does not always hit the mark with your type, but got better with time.

There are other guys who you get to know, such as Ceser. They are pimps, yes, but end up being employed by one of the clubs, often. There is quite a nice, reliable guy I will mention elsewhere, who tries very hard, delivers, and so forth, but isn't really part of this street pimp network—more of a family man.

MASSAGE PARLORS.

Of the establishments, these are the cheapest options and require little negotiation for a decent price: Pretty straightforward. They generally have some of the sweetest girls but the least attractive. Prices are something like 200 pesos for the house and 400–600 for the girl, totalling around 800 pesos for 1 hr w / massage, room, and full service included. One doesn't need to rent a hotel room and one doesn't leave a trail for others to discover you've been 'active' on your travels.

I liked the guys working at Osiris, south of Obsessions. Jose, there, is an especially nice and sincere guy. He makes a good offer right off, tries hard, and delivers. He'll let you interact with the girls extensively to see what you think and accepts your decision if you don't like the selections. He is mostly a manager, not a street pimp. He does know nice girls who don't work professionally.

STREET WALKERS (GIRLS)

Very few street walkers exist, perhaps because of the high local police presence. They will disappear when the Federales (state police) drive by. Independent girls are scared of the latter. There were only two I saw during the week (both just south of Obsessions) , and they were there every night. Many available and generally unattractive girls clubbing can be found duty in Regis Bar and Bora Bora (kind of fat girls who hang out in this desolate place) , along with massage girls and some club girls off duty (but available). The price should be around $80/1 hr for a girl or lower; as it turns out, this will be the price with a pimp. Nearly all girls are managed by pimps; I was never able to do any direct negotiation with girls.

After the first meeting, girls will often give their cell (if they liked you) or even ask for yours: I suspect one can then do direct dealing with the girl to mutual benefit. I did not try, as I was there in Nogales only a few days. After returning to the US, one girl has written me several times to let me know where and how to contact her—and she is hot! Another sweetie, an available non-professional, also did the same after meeting me once.

NOTE.

This border town is controlled by two mafias, who are in a truce. The train tracks are the dividing point. Don't get messed up with them. Don't go up into the hills, without protection-and I don't mean the stuff against STDs. I mean you have the protection of someone in the correct mafia. These aren't little gangs, but very serious organizations.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I personally avoid Nogales like the plague. It has been listed on the USA State Department's no travel list. There have been shootings in some of those clubs. One time someone got shot in the restroom just because he happenned to be in there when a drug cartel person was assassinating another guy and he had to kill the witness. I would say to go to either Los Algodones or Mexicali. Nogales is located very close to a major interstate highway in the United States so the drug cartels like it to run their drugs into the country. Los Algodones and Mexicali are sort of located in the middle of no where on the USA side so the drug cartels do not like them as well as it is more difficult for them to transport their drugs in the United States. Los Algodones only takes another 30 minutes to get to from Phoenix. The prices are a hell of a lot cheaper too. Nogales is close to Tucson so all of the U of A students go down there (trust fund babies) and they are stupid and pay high prices and it keeps the prices too high making Nogales a rip off. That is my two cents on the situation.


I personally don't consider Nogales TOO dangerous for mongering. If you keep your wits about you, use common sense, don't flash LOTs of money around, stay close to the border and well known clubs, your chances of being in danger are pretty slim.

I this Nogales is a great place to go, and travel there whenever possible.

CL.

[Arizonan82]

I personally avoid Nogales like the plague. It has been listed on the USA State Department's no travel list. There have been shootings in some of those clubs. One time someone got shot in the restroom just because he happenned to be in there when a drug cartel person was assassinating another guy and he had to kill the witness. I would say to go to either Los Algodones or Mexicali. Nogales is located very close to a major interstate highway in the United States so the drug cartels like it to run their drugs into the country. Los Algodones and Mexicali are sort of located in the middle of no where on the USA side so the drug cartels do not like them as well as it is more difficult for them to transport their drugs in the United States. Los Algodones only takes another 30 minutes to get to from Phoenix. The prices are a hell of a lot cheaper too. Nogales is close to Tucson so all of the U of A students go down there (trust fund babies) and they are stupid and pay high prices and it keeps the prices too high making Nogales a rip off. That is my two cents on the situation.As other members have said, if you use common sense there should not be any problems, at least theoretically. Whenever I go to places I do not know, I try to get a feeling of the place and also ask around. Thus, every time I go to Nogales, I talk to different people about the town's safety. They usually say that the media exaggerates stuff and if you are not involved with the drug cartels, you should not have any problems if you use common sense. Maybe, I am fortunate that I blend in (I am a Latin American) and speak Spanish so I feel relatively safe in Nogales. I am seen by others as a local. People in stores, restaurants, hotels, strip clubs, etc, usually charge me in pesos.

[Chica Luv]

Thanks for all the hard earned PERSONAL insight.

NOT!

Of course. I am just GUESSING that you have all this personal insight about Nogales, especially since you have NEVER mentioned about actually being down in Nogales in any of your 40-something post.

I won't say that I think you are full of shit regarding your options about Nogales because we are not allowed to confront other board members in such a direct manner.

So, thanks for your 'Two Cents', but I perfer to get my informtion from someone that has personally been to Nogales and knows a LOT more than what they have heard / read in the news.

Next time spend a little more than 2 cents and get the whole story,

CL.


I personally avoid Nogales like the plague. It has been listed on the USA State Department's no travel list. There have been shootings in some of those clubs. One time someone got shot in the restroom just because he happenned to be in there when a drug cartel person was assassinating another guy and he had to kill the witness. I would say to go to either Los Algodones or Mexicali. Nogales is located very close to a major interstate highway in the United States so the drug cartels like it to run their drugs into the country. Los Algodones and Mexicali are sort of located in the middle of no where on the USA side so the drug cartels do not like them as well as it is more difficult for them to transport their drugs in the United States. Los Algodones only takes another 30 minutes to get to from Phoenix. The prices are a hell of a lot cheaper too. Nogales is close to Tucson so all of the U of A students go down there (trust fund babies) and they are stupid and pay high prices and it keeps the prices too high making Nogales a rip off. That is my two cents on the situation.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I was in Nogales about 10 years ago. I was there before I knew about this board, that is why there are no posts on it. I have been there 3 times. I went to the Obsession's TD all three times. I remember it being a total rip off. They wanted $300 for pussy. Sorry, but I can get that here in the states any day on backpage. I went there before all of the drug cartels were doing there thing. The clubs do not have hotels attached to them and personally I do not like to have sex in a booth or in some sleezy room that is part of the bar. I also do not like those pesky barkers that bother you when you get over the border in Nogales. I can go to either Los Algodones or Mexicali and get respectable looking pussy for as low as $50 in the Zona Roja or $100 in a strip club with no barkers. No drug cartels either. If you like Nogales, go there and spend $300 for pussy that I can get for $50 in the Zona Roja of Mexicali. I have also read the department of states no travel warnings so I know that it is a place to avoid.


Thanks for all the hard earned PERSONAL insight.

NOT!

Of course. I am just GUESSING that you have all this personal insight about Nogales, especially since you have NEVER mentioned about actually being down in Nogales in any of your 40-something post.

I won't say that I think you are full of shit because we are not allowed to confront other board members in such a direct manner.

So, thanks for your 'Two Cents', but I perfer to get my informtion from someone that has personally been to Nogales and knows a LOT more than what they have heard / read in the news.

Next time spend a little more than 2 cents and get the whole story,

CL.

[CoolArrow]

If you are in the area, it is definitely worth a trip to Nogales, if nothing else than for the delicious food at La Roca. I am surprised that I have not heard it mentioned here. This restaurant is on the same street as Club 69 and Boleros. It is a two story stone building with a balcony that overlooks the street. You can have drinks and food, while watching the goings on in the street below. Last time I was at Club 69 (18months ago) , I was with a little cutie that couldn't have been a day older than 19. I remember her little twat reacting to my finger with a rush of wetness. The girls come and go in these places. Never knowing what you'll find is half the fun!

[Chica Luv]

Thanks for the update Tijuana.

Based on your experiences TEN years ago, I can certainly see why you would now prefer Algodones or Mexicali over Nogales.

However, I might suggest that the experience you had 10 years ago and what is actually going on in Nogales now are not recent enough for a fair comparison. Not even close.

YES, if someone is WILLING to spend $300. 00 for a women, then there are certainly lots of folks in Mexico (Nogales included) that are willing to accept the $300. 00 However as someone that has spent HUNDREDS days (throughout the months / years) in Mexico (many of them in Nogales) , I will tell you that 400-800pesos is the going rate.

I routinely spend 600-800 pesos for women that are working in the strip clubs (either before or after their shift). ROUTINELY, as in EVERY time! If I want a girl off the street the price is 200-400 pesos.

Algodones has two strip clubs within walking distance. Nogales has three strip clubs, two massage parlors and numerous other clubs. Most within walking distance. Mexicali has lots of clubs spread out into about three (+-) clusters, not counting SDB or El Establo most of which are most easily accessed via car. The driving scene in Mexicali CAN be crazy!

I have never been bothered or threaten by any gangster, mofia / drug cartel member or the police. However, when (actually EVERY time) I've traveled (driven) in Mexicali and surrounding towns, I have been stopped by the Police. They always try to "shake me down" for money. After my spanish improved and I learned the ropes a little better, I stopped pay those assholes.

If you are REALLY that concerned about what goes on here in Nogales, you might consider coming down for an update. Otherwise it is nothing more than an antiquated opinion, and certainly not something that anyone serious about visiting Nogales should use as a measure of the current facts in the Nogales scene.

CL.


I was in Nogales about 10 years ago. I was there before I knew about this board, that is why there are no posts on it. I have been there 3 times. I went to the Obsession's TD all three times. I remember it being a total rip off. They wanted $300 for pussy. Sorry, but I can get that here in the states any day on backpage. I went there before all of the drug cartels were doing there thing. The clubs do not have hotels attached to them and personally I do not like to have sex in a booth or in some sleezy room that is part of the bar. I also do not like those pesky barkers that bother you when you get over the border in Nogales. I can go to either Los Algodones or Mexicali and get respectable looking pussy for as low as $50 in the Zona Roja or $100 in a strip club with no barkers. No drug cartels either. If you like Nogales, go there and spend $300 for pussy that I can get for $50 in the Zona Roja of Mexicali. I have also read the department of states no travel warnings so I know that it is a place to avoid.

[Arizonan82]

I spent another night in Nogales. This hobby is getting to be very exciting. This time I wanted to try another girl, get some variety. Thus, I arrived there at night, around 8 pm. I knew if I had arrived earlier and went to Studio69 I would be tempted by my ATF. To my surprise I found out that Bar Bora Bora went out of business. Crap, I wanted to check out the place. After eating at Leo's, I decided to head to Studio69. One of the waiters told me there were many pretty girls in the night shift. I had never stayed there till later than 8pm, so I wanted to check out the type of girls available.

On my way to Studio69, I got persuaded to go to Boleiros. It is not my favorite place, but since they did not charge me a cover I decided to check it out. Maybe I would find a girl of my type. There were about 8-10 girls, several 8's. Most of them had company, so I could not check them out. I was only able to check out the girls who danced and none really appealed to me. I finished my beer and then finally went to Studio69. When I arrived, there were 15 girls. Most of them 8's and some 9's. The main reason I like going to this strip club is that the waiters know what I want. I told them: 'if I want a girl I will call her'. I do not like the waiters to bring me girls and then pressure me to buy them drinks. I also like the girls who have initiative, which seems to be more common in Studio69 than Boleiros, the ones that go to my table without being told to do so. Three of them did that: Carla, Yvone, and Sandy. Carla was not my type. Sandy was cute, slim and friendly, I would rate her a 9 and Yvone was a 9 +, as they say in Portuguese 'Muito gata. ' She was very provocative. She came directly to my lap and started dancing. But I wanted to wait and see the other girls there. Interestingly, the waitress caught my eye. She had a cute face and was wearing very tight jeans, showing off her nice ass. Her name was Luz and she was very friendly. I got her phone number, bought her a drink and started chit-chatting. I asked if she worked outside the club, she told me sure, but did not have much time because she had to take care of her 4 kids. Most of these girls have kids. I did not have the luck to find one without kids so far. I have asked Tony to search for one but he has not replied yet.

Afterwards, I decided to check out Regis. There were only 5 or 6 girls and all of them had company. There were only a couple who were a 7, the others were unattractive. They were a 5 or lower. I tried to find Tony, but he was nowhere to be found. First someone told me he was working at Obsessions but then later someone else said he had left for the night. Anyways, I was asking around where I could find 'muchachas' and someone told me to check Hotel Frontera, just across the street from Regis. I got a girl there for $ 50 bucks including the room. Another board member had talked about such reasonable prices. This girl, Karen, had a very, very cute face but not my body type. She was too skinny for my taste. But at this point and for this price, I was up for that type of girl. Anyways, it was a decent fuck. I also realized that one of the girls Tony had offered me previously was hanging out there at Hotel Frontera. Now, I know I can avoid the pimps and go directly to the girl. Hotel Frontera is the place where some girls hang out. Next time I will try to go there on a Friday or Saturday since they told me there are more girls available on the weekends. The main incentive is the price one pays for those cute latinas.

Meanwhile, I will try to keep in touch with Luz and see if I can get a 'date' with her outside the club to get to know her better. Then l will have the time to explore more of her personality. In my opinion, great personalities are as important as physical appearance. And if I have to pay more than $ 50 bucks, which will probably be the case, I want to make sure I will have a great time. With my brief conversation with her, she showed the potential to be another ATF.

[SecretGeek33]

Hi ya'll great stuff here. Super informative. Been RTFF-ing and I can't believe I've been too lazy to look ino Nogi being only a short drive away. In comparison, I could have saved some serious money. Anyway, I'm obviously not part of the Nogi scene but wanted to know two things:

1) it seems extended stays garner better results. Makes sense. And I would like to go sometime soon but am afraid a day trip might be hard to pull off anytime soon. What recommendations come with part day / afternoon-overnight visits?

2) while the info is good, I'm better led by example. In some near future, possible I can hit someone up as a wingman?

Thanks for your awesome contributions up to this point!

[SecretGeek33]

Hi there. I guess the post I made earlier didn't stick for some reason. I'm new here and have been beating myself up for the last few hours having never bothered to check out the Nogi scene all these year's I've been but an hour away. So much money I could have better spent LOL. Anyway, I've gone through and RTFFs and it's all good info. Just a couple of things to get acquainted:

1) not sure I can secure a day trip, which seems to be popular. What recommendations are there for part day / afternoon-overnight trips in particular?

2) not much of a reading learner. In the near future when I can make the trip, possible I can hit one of you up as a wingman? Would be much appreciated.

Great info here ya'll. Good stuff.

[Arizonan82]

I arrived in Nogales around 6pm. I went directly to Studio69 to see if my ATF was there. Luckily she was working. I texted her but she has not replied. She told me she did not have credits on her phone. Originally, I was thinking about trying another girl, get some variety. I texted Tony but he did not reply. Last time I went to Nogales I got a girl for $ 50 bucks. It was a decent fuck but it was somehow mechanical and rushed. I hate that. I was not with an adventurous spirit and this time I decided to spend more money and get together with my ATF. I get a great GFE for still a reasonable price. I waited for her at the usual spot and time, and there she was. We went to eat and something strange happened. She claimed her cell phone reception was not good inside the restaurant. She went outside and came back telling me a family emergency happened. She promised she would be back in no more than one hour. I felt there was something strange there.

Anyways, I finished eating and then walked outside and saw Tony and started talking with him. As usual, he claimed he did not receive my texts. It is funny because he has gotten my messages before, but now he seems to ignore them. He told me he wanted to introduce me to a girl who he claimed was her first night working. Come on Tony, tell me another joke. The girl was not my type. On the other hand, the hot dog girl caught my eye and I asked Tony if she worked as a "dama de compania". He would investigate and would let me know. Later he told me she did not work in the business. What a pity!

Meanwhile, my ATF sent me an apologetic message stating her sister was having a baby and she could not make it. Come on, first you tell me you will be back in one hour. And now you are saying you will not be able to make it. Maybe her excuse was true, but I do not believe her. I would bet that another customer who PAYS MORE, requested her services. Maybe one of you guys. I was so damned pissed off. I have told her I do not mind her having other clients. I understand her. She is not my girlfriend and that is her job. But do not lie to me. Next time I go to Studio69, she will come to my table and greet me as she usually does and ask if we are meeting at the usual time and place. It will be payback time, I will tell her not tonight honey and then invest my time on one of her co-workers who I have been checking out lately and I want to give her a try. This lady apparently does not have kids, which is unusual. I want to find out for sure.

Tony convinced me to check out Obsessions. I stayed there a bit and then left once again to Studio69. The waiter that serves me was there and we chatted for a while. Business was kind of slow. Next time if I go there between Thursday and Saturday night and if there are enough waiters / waitresses at Studio69, this guy will take me to Barra del Greco, one of the higher end dance clubs in town. He said he will hook me up with the bartender who knows a lot of girls that go there. But he told me I will have to spend money to have a good time with a girl.

By the way, the waitress at Studio 69, Luz who I thought could be a potential ATF, after I asked her if she recognized me from last week, she said she did not. If she at least had pretended I would have bought it. It is too bad for her because I am not going to invest my time and money anymore getting to know her.

On a side note for newbies or the ones who have not been to Nogales yet but plan to go there anytime soon. After going there about 10 times in the last 4 months I will add my first-hand experiences of this town as well as the feedback I got from locals.

First, do not believe when board members claim you can get ANY girl for $50 dollars. Yes, you can get SOME girls for that price but not ANY. And usually these girls are not that attractive and their service is not that good, I. E, it will not be GFE, if that is what you are looking for.

Second, you can get a girl that works at a club after her shift for $ 65-$80 bucks for the whole night. That is very unlikely to happen in the first few times you go out with her. Only of course if you are lucky enough. Board members, who claimed they did that, forgot to mention they had seen this girl many times before and had spent hundreds of dollars on her (maybe they mentioned those details on previous posts but I did not read it carefully). Usually, only girls who do not have kids and / or family in town will spend the night with you. However, the majority of working girls in Nogales have kids.

Third, it is very unlikely to pick up a girl for 'free' at the local bars such as Regis. The ones who claimed they did that most likely spoke Spanish fluently, had a great game and the girl was too drunk or she was not that attractive. Again you can get lucky. However, girls, as mentioned before, usually have kids and they need money to support them, pay rent, etc. Thus, they will ask for money to be with you.

Fourth, YMMV getting DFK and BBBJ. If you are inside the club and in a MP, you will get a CBJ and not likely to get DFK. Girls will usually provide those services if they had been with you before and if they enjoy your company. Probably if you pay more and request DFK and BBBJ you will get those services with some girls. But I have not tried it. I tell a girl who I see as a potential ATF: do whatever you feel comfortable with and then respect her decision and do not push her to do what she does not want to perform. But, if I just want to have fun for that night and do not want to invest time and money in getting to know the girl, I ask upfront what services she provides. ALWAYS PAY AFTER the services are offered.

Fifth, also YMMV requesting a girl's phone number to meet her outside the club, or MP. Some girls are afraid to give out their phone numbers and management finding out about it. Also, the girl might just not like you and thus will not give her phone number. My ATF has told me, she does give her phone number to anyone, especially if the person has been rude or disrespectful with her. She added that she has her dignity and does not go out with any men. Also, the girl only might give her digits to you because she is trying to be nice and get you to buy a drink, dance, etc. But do not count on her replying to your messages or meeting you afterwards. My point is there is no guarantee if you get a girl's phone number she will meet you outside the club or MP. Your odds will increase if: you meet her the same day you got her digits or shortly afterwards, you have spent some money on her buying drinks, dances, etc, she 'liked' you, she wants extra cash.

My overall message is: GO and DO THE WORK, SEE, EXPERIENCE for yourself. Do not believe in everything board members write here including myself.

One point board members, who have been to Nogales more often, will probably agree: the more often you see one girl, the closer and intimate she gets and better quality service she offers. From all the girls I have been with in my life, the best experiences were not with the hotter ones, but with the more intimate ones and these girls were not necessarily the hotter ones.

Best of luck to all,

AZ82

[Start123]

7 pm Friday. Start123 is getting closer to the border, one thing is new, on. 19 where the border check is they installed an array of cameras that take picture of you and your license plate when you go towards the border.

7:25 Start123 is in Boleros. 3-4 girls are in there, Maybe 6-7 patrons. I guess the day shift has just left or leaving and the reinforcements haven't arrived yet.

Screw it. Went to Studio69 – same situation. Only 3 girls and 2 mexican guys. Well I got a bottle of water for 4 bucks. And decided to chat up two girls sitting at the bar. They didn't speak English. So the conversation died pretty fast. LOL. One of the waiters explained that any of the girls can be taken to a room for FS, everything incl. For about 150 green ones for half an hour. Later in the evening I will realize this wasn't such a bad deal!

After half an hour at S69 I made my way to Boleiros. The lineup looked pretty good, but there were just as many Mexicans. Every girl who was even half attractive was taken. I got lucky and a woman named Dominique was brought to my table. She looked in her late 20s but with a nice petite body. I bought her a drink (12 bucks) and tried to get as much action as possible right there on the floor. With limited success. She finished her girly and probably deluded drink within 15 min and left. Of course, during this short interaction I was asked if I wanted to buy a lady another drink by all waiters in that club at least twice! I tried to slip her my number and negotiate something later, but she said she doesn't do anything outside. Whatev!

While sitting inside S69 I was texting like a school girl to every girl I knew in Nogales and Tony. Tony didn't reply. Girls replied with standard 'who is this? '. I didn't know how to explain who I was and didn't sound a bit vulgar.

Almost 9 pm. I decided to make my way to Regis bar and explore that information about a hotel across Regis where one could find ladies. I looked inside Regis only to make sure for the 10th time that that places sucks! Right across Regis on the other side of the road was that Frontera hotel. Indeed they had one girl available. About 7. She wanted a 70 plus 15 for the room. I passed as I wanted to see what else was available.

The small dinky hotel to the right of Frontera and another hotel to the left of Frontera also had girls. Maybe 7-8 girls between the two. All about 5-7. 5.

9:25 pm I walked into Obsessions – the place I got ripped off my very first trip to Nogales. They wanted 5 bucks cover but I said I just wanted to look inside and see if I like it. They let me in. I saw about 10 girls inside with about 25 customers. Holly shit!

And they say economy is bad? This cute number named Julie came sat with me, she spoke perfect english and was very cute, possibly an 8 or 9. I bought her a girly drink for 11 bucks and again. Attempted to feel up some skin. She seemed shy. Basically it was a waste of money. I got myself some beer and set in Obsessions for the next 45 min, just observing the crowd.

Several American kids came in, looked like students. One time I went to the rest room I saw them all sampling some product. I've been offered drugs in almost all clubs and on the street too. Anyway, when I came out, in less than 5 min there were two cops heading to the restroom. I decided not to stick around anymore as I was the only one gringo beside the kids in the restroom.

I saw Tony at his usual spot, he made an excuse that he didn't have credits in his phone to answer my texts. I don't know what his deal is anymore. I think he us just one of many hustlers available and they all bring you the same girls they find around the corner at hotels like Frontera.

Some woman approached me, she looked like a pro but she said she could find me a girl. At this point I was pretty horny so I said why not. About 45 min later a girl came in a taxi, name's Michele. Looked around 19, skinny. I used a room in Frontera. Not to shabby for 10 bucks! The sheets were not changed or washed for a day at least, but hey. This hobby gets pretty nasty sometimes!

The girl wanted the money upfront which I didn't like at all. So after a brief standoff I decided to give her the 50. The service was pretty bad, she wouldn't let me touch much and basically she laid there preventing me from doing the deed properly. CBJ. Her vagoon was so dry I thought I am going to start a fire! The * left after I came. And that was 30 min in and we agreed for an hour. Whatev.

I noticed two transsexual ladies near that hotel too, they were nothing to look at, but I can't say I've seen them there ever. Is that a new trend?

So overall this trip was ok. I got a fish for 50 bucks and some company for 25. I saw tons of teens partying in Nogales in bars. I wish I was young again. The girls looked ridiculously good! I walked to the border gawking at them like a teen boy! They all crossed into Nogales AZ.

[Artisttyp]

Hello,

I am currently in mazatlan busing it through sonora then onto tijuana. My next stop is culiacan. I would like to bus it from culiacan to nogales. Does anyone know how many hours tjat would take? I would rather skip hermosillo.

Can someone recommend a hotel in nogales? If you have an address and email info that would be great. *Does nogales get crowded on the weekends like Tijuana? I might be arriving on a Friday. Bad idea?

Thanks. I really appreciate it. Unlike my other trips I hadn't planned a thing for this one. I find it quite a challenge to travel like this!

Reports to follow when I hit Tijuana.

[Jaimehaffner]

I suggest the Frey Narcos de Niza. It is a few blocks from the POE. On property is a nice lounge and an excellent restaurant. May I suggest the Sea Bass. The zona is a few short blocks. Thishotel is in the tourist area and is secure. Enjoy yourself. I Can someone recommend a hotel in nogales? If you have an address and email info that would be great. *Does nogales get crowded on the weekends like Tijuana? I might be arriving on a Friday. Bad idea?

Thanks. I really appreciate it. Unlike my other trips I hadn't planned a thing for this one. I find it quite a challenge to travel like this!

Reports to follow when I hit Tijuana.[/QUOTE]

[Start123]

I would like to remind every one who is going to Nogales not to deal with the following guy.

He looks about 5'8".6'. Has a goatee and short hair. Usually wears a white long sleeve shirt. Speaks decent English. He "works" for Obsessions.

I had a very bad experience with him when I first started going to Nogales. He basically stole money from me. There is another report way back describing this guy ripped off another board member.

The whole Nogales idea is becoming more stupid. Pussy index is about 65 dollars for an 8-9 in third world countries. Girls in Nogi are asking 150-180 in clubs for half hour. All of them had children and their bodies are nothing to look at. Mexico is dangerous. If anything we should be spending our money in a drug gang controlled area!

Support local talent, you can get a better deal in Tucson or Phoenix!

[Arizonan82]

I have been going to Nogales about once a week since the last time I posted. But I only been there checking out the scene, getting to know other girls. Thus, that is the reason I have not been posting lately.

I have not heard from my ATF since I saw her about a month or so ago. Even then, we just sat down and talked about life. She told me her daughter was sick at that time and she did not have her mind for sex. That is perfectly understandable. Since then, I kept texting but she never replied. Also, the times I went to the strip club she works, she was not there.

I went to Nogales this past Tuesday to check out the area once again, and decided to see if my ATF was working. There she was. However, she told me an unfortunate story. She claimed that someone, she does not know who this person is, told her boss she was seeing me outside the club. And of course, the boss was mad because he was not making money. So, to punish her, he charged her a $ 200 fee plus not letting her work at the club for one week. When she told me her story, I felt so sorry for her situation. She also claimed someone at her job stole her cell phone battery and since at the moment she cannot afford to buy another battery, she has not been able to communicate with anyone. I wanted to believe her story, but having experience with similar situations, I am skeptic about it.

I decided to buy her a drink, while she was telling me the story above. We started to DFK and I tried to convince her to see her outside the club but at a different place far from where we were seen each other. She stated she was afraid someone would find out. I pushed the option a few times explaining she would make more money outside the club, but she declined claiming that she was afraid of losing her job. We continued DFK for quite sometime until she convinced me to stay at the club by saying the following words. 'Yo quiero hacer el amor contigo, no solo sexo' I want to make love with you, not only sex. Her mouth could be lying but her eyes showed otherwise. I told her I would not have much time to please her. She said she did not care. She wanted to please me. In fact, that was what happened. She was damn hot on her outfit. I could not resist.

At the VIP room, her kisses were very intense and I could see she was into it. I decided it was time for DATY. It was my first time eating her pussy. She loved it! We had some wild sex until both of us were sweating excessively. Towards the end of the session, she performed an excellent blow job. My legs were even shaking. I felt I was in heaven! That was the way of her thanking me for DATY. I came hard on her face. What a great feeling!

To test her, I asked how I could thank her for her excellent service. I could swear she was going to ask me for some money, but I was wrong. She just wanted some food since she had to work a double shift. I said I could do that. I brought her food and she was damn happy. Her face showed it all. I decided to head back to the border because if I stayed there I would be tempted to fuck her again. After all, she might be telling the truth about her boss' punishment. Anyways, at this point, it does not matter.

I am getting hooked on this girl. That can be very dangerous. So, for the time being, I will fight the temptation to go to Nogales soon.

[Granjefe]

She goes by the name of "karla" and is from Mazatlan. She was working the club scene in Algodones the past 6 months. She's accused of stealing money from other girls at the Hawaii Club and ripped off her roommate as well. We know she works the circuit in Nogales so beware. I've attached photos, she is short, has a nice rack and a big ass.

[Chica Luv]

OK. I don't really care if the steal from her co-workers. What I would be interested in is. Is she good at her man-pleasing job?


She goes by the name of "karla" and is from Mazatlan. She was working the club scene in Algodones the past 6 months. She's accused of stealing money from other girls at the Hawaii Club and ripped off her roommate as well. We know she works the circuit in Nogales so beware. I've attached photos, she is short, has a nice rack and a big ass.

[Mavrick7]

brothers,

first of all, thank you for all of the posts and advice shared on this forum. i researched as much as i could for my first visit to nogales, and tried to stick to my.

strategy, developed after reading many posts and experiences by chica and arizona82. for me, i don't plan to develop anything long term with these providers,

and didn't want to spend a long time in a foreign country to risk mugging or being victimized by gangsters. none of these things were a concern at all, be cool,

be respectful and have fun!

followed i-19 south, to the american side of the border. drove around the area, to verify the distance between the us / mexican gate and the parking lots. found

the mcdonalds and 24 hour parking lot for $4, as described. you take a token upon entry in the parking lot and found lots of stalls. the instructions indicate that

you pay $4 dollars, upon exit in the unmanned both.

walked about 2 blocks from the parking lot to the us / mexican border gate, and followed the signs to a small room with us customs agents. i got there at about

1 am, a little boozed up and nervous about what i was going into mexico for. they just looked at me, and i walked through the turnstile. no questions or

comments. there wasn't anyone else traveling through at this hour.

on the other side, met by rows of taxi drivers and hawkers as described. ignored everyone and kept walking. used the map provided by mr. bill and found

obsessions around the corner. i would estimate that i walked less than i block from the us / mexican border.

went straight into the strip bar, and paid the $5 us entry. the guy at the door, explained that i get a beer with the ticket. okay, walk into the place and met

by a male waiter, who takes my beer order. no domestic beer, so ordered a tecate light.

seated in a booth in a dark room and tried to "scope" out the available dancers. the waiter brings my beer and i tip him a $1, and treated like a "vip", which

is the type of service that i was looking for. the place was fairly small and reminded me of a sketchy bar in some small town in the us in the 90s.

unfortunately, the place looked very worn, like things break and the owners don't replace or repair stuff. obsessions may have been the "hot" strip club in the

90s, and could be a hot spot for us travelers. i am sure that 911's changes to access into and out of mexico, cut down on the bustling traffic for these bars. i

wasn't the only american there, noticed 4 us tourists, and 2 young mexican males with champagne buckets on their tables. everyone was cool, trying to have a good time.

after scanning the bleak assortment of girls seated around the bar, my waiter brings out a hot mexican girl from the back. she must have been the top girl,

tanned skinned, bleached curly hair, with bolt on d cups. spoke clear english, with a slight spanish accent. it was too early for me to decide, but she was

a "9" and would be a choice, if no other better looking ones appeared. she wasn't the prettiest girl, and had a small baby pouch on a otherwise flawless 25

year old body.

they even had a radio / dee jay type of announcer, the type you would hear at an american strip bar. he must have called for a "roll call", since all of the girls went onto the stage. there were about 15 girls on the stage, ranging from 6s to 8s and a couple of 9s. it was very dark. i was again pressured by the girl

with the bolt ons, she must have been the popular us girl. then i saw the girl get back on stage, and she was the dancer who was on stage earlier. this girl

received a lot of attention from the local mexican guys, who could be drug lords. i noticed that she had a private table with champagne with one of those guys,

so i didn't want to get in trouble.

a different waiter approached me for a special $17 for private dance, and i couldn't resist, so i ask her the hot girl.

they bring her over to my table and wow! gorgeous, young, and speaks english. i ask for the private dance, and she takes me to a small booth in the back.

basically, a stool in a booth, with a curtain. mistake! it was $22 plus $2 for her. whatever, she is hot! offered the vip for $200, and decline.

starts the private dance, and reveals a "flawless" body with a beautiful face. immediately, sucks my neck and sticks her tounge in my ear and allows my hands to room freely. how much is a the vip again? okay, how about $140, i ask. she counters with $160, plus $5 condom.

led out of the booth and into a 200 sq foot room with a big window, which they call the vip room. there is a fold-down futon with a small cocktail table. the.

waiter lays a fresh sheet on the futon, and drapes a curtain over the glass window, which barely covers view. i didn't give a shit at this point, and strips down.

tanya comes into the room, looking like a playboy playmate!

l10 absolutely stunning face, body combination. facially, she looked like a younger, thinner, selena. dark hair vixen, standing about 5'6" tall, and about 115

pounds. natural c cup tities, with eraser tip nipples. shaven pussy, and heart shaped ass. tanya could easily be in any top us strip bar. 24 years old and

probably at the top of her game.

a10 very friendly and service driven. she was very honest and cool, made me very comfortable. one example, she explained that she was going to lube

herself before the deed and returned fresh, sexy, and ready. after the deeded, cleaned me up, and she explained that she needed to shower and clean up.

s10 i don't have the opportunity to fuck a lot of mexican girls (mostly asian or white) , and there is a completely different experience with these girls.

continued more neck sucking, chest and nipple licking, then tanya starts to perform porn-star cock sucking cbj, slapping my cock against her face, deep throat, and ball licking, sucking and rim action. wow!

jumps on my cock and starts a reverse cowgirl seated fuck and grinds my cock like she was some kinda cock thirty vampire! after some wild humping, she

leans on the cocktail table and begs for k9. i hear that mexican girls cum in k9 and it is true for this one. as i am thrusting into her, she starts to suck my

fingers, and almost swallows my fuckin hand!

clean up myself and walk out of the vip. the waiter walks me to the exit and asks for a courtesy tip, i drop him a $5 tip.

walk back to the border crossing through the same area that i entered. the us customs guys, question me about my whereabouts. just tell that you want to

visit mexico.

there is another border checkpoint when you return to arizona, about 5 miles up i-19 north. dogs, patrol people. stay cool and don't get too drunk on your

return ride.

mav

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[Willy949]

I'm usually frequenting Tucson strip clubs and other pursuits. Thought I'd give Nogales a try again in a couple weeks. But I haven't been down there in a couple years. So I've been catching up on this forum and gaining some valuable info. Thanks to all. I have not seen the club El Tecoloto mentioned in recent years. Is this place still open? Is it of interest? I remember that it was lower key than the usual strip clubs but had chicas available to meet and do more. Any info is much appreciated.

W949

[Start123]

You spent around $250 for everything (gas, tips, drinks, a dance). Not a bargain! You probably could have gotten the same around where you live. It's not bad for a first time experience, maybe next time you'll try to go the cheaper route. I wouldn't pay anything over 50 bucks in Nogales.

[Mavrick7]

You spent around $250 for everything (gas, tips, drinks, a dance). Not a bargain! You probably could have gotten the same around where you live. It's not bad for a first time experience, maybe next time you'll try to go the cheaper route. I wouldn't pay anything over 50 bucks in Nogales.Bro,

I am assuming that you are talking to me. It wasn't $250.

Entry + 1 beer = $5.

Private dance =$20.

VIP =$160.

Condom =$5.

Tip waiter $5.

Gas $3. 50 per gallon = $7. 00.

Parking = $4.

Total damage $201.

Fucking hot latina bent over a cocktail table = priceless!

[Profesional30]

Hi there,

Never been at Nogales before, and want to explore a little bit the area.

I was looking in visiting the area on a Friday during AM and early PM. Is there any action during this time?

Any recommendations?

Thanks!

[Jaimehaffner]

There is a beautiful FS provider in Tucson named Alexia Dior. I have been going to Mexico sinse 1976. Alexa is a better deal and a hell of a lot safer. She is beautiful ansd FS. Fnd her on backpage.

[Baqueta]

Willy 949 The Tecolate bar has been demolished, it is now an empty lot. There is a another bar I / 2 block more to the west. I have only been in there during the day. Seem quite a bit rougher than the Tecolote. They do have quite an extensive jukebox though. I've had touts offer to take me down there but I haven't had the cajones to go there after dark with out some wing men. Nothing like bleary and red eyed vaqueros, giving you the stink eye to make you be extra aware of your surroundings. Try the Salon Regis. On Benito Juarez.

[Arizonan82]

I would like to know if any of you guys have tried the services of a girl that goes by Mari? She is a curvy, short, brunette who usually hangs out at Salon Regis. Apparently she is a friend of Blanca who also hangs out at Salon Regis. I have seen them sitting together several times at this bar.

The reason I am asking is that Mari is not particularly my type of girl, but I have a feeling that I may have fun with her.

I appreciate any comment.

All the best,

AZ82

[Arizonan82]

Hello fellow forum members,

I will be moving out of Arizona, so due to time limitations I would like to get some valuable info and then make a decision on where and how I will spend my money.

I have heard from several locals that many working girls hang out at discotecas / barras such as Sky, Anthropoide, Bar del Greco, Yard House. Does anyone have been to such places? If so, was it worthwhile?

I have been so many times at Salon Regis that even the waiters remember me and usually not that many girls of my type hang out there. Thus, I would like to try different places.

Any info is appreciated.

AZ82

[Arizonan82]

Hi there,

Never been at Nogales before, and want to explore a little bit the area.

I was looking in visiting the area on a Friday during AM and early PM. Is there any action during this time?

Any recommendations?

Thanks!Hi P30,

Around that time only the strip clubs and the Massage Parlors are open and you will not find many girls, especially at the strip clubs. I highly recommend you go there at night and on a weekend. There are plenty more options.

Be safe,

AZ82

[Arizonan82]

I'm usually frequenting Tucson strip clubs and other pursuits. Thought I'd give Nogales a try again in a couple weeks. But I haven't been down there in a couple years. So I've been catching up on this forum and gaining some valuable info. Thanks to all. I have not seen the club El Tecoloto mentioned in recent years. Is this place still open? Is it of interest? I remember that it was lower key than the usual strip clubs but had chicas available to meet and do more. Any info is much appreciated.

W949Hello W949,

Regarding "regular" bars, I have only been to Salon Regis. There are working girls there, especially on weekends. Depending on the type of women you prefer, you might find one that you like.

There is also a bar called Pancho Villa, a few blocks from the border. I have never been there, but a few locals recommended.

Be safe,

AZ82

[Arizonan82]

I'm usually frequenting Tucson strip clubs and other pursuits. Thought I'd give Nogales a try again in a couple weeks. But I haven't been down there in a couple years. So I've been catching up on this forum and gaining some valuable info. Thanks to all. I have not seen the club El Tecoloto mentioned in recent years. Is this place still open? Is it of interest? I remember that it was lower key than the usual strip clubs but had chicas available to meet and do more. Any info is much appreciated.

W949Hi W949,

There are also working girls that hang out at Hotel Frontera and Hotel Martinez right across from Salon Regis. There are more options on the weekends.

You can also try Tony and Gilberto. They can find you girls for reasonable prices. They usually are hanging out on the corner south of Obsessions by the hot dog stand. If they are not there, ask for them because they are usually around.

I hope this info helps,

AZ82

[Arizonan82]

Bro,

I am assuming that you are talking to me. It wasn't $250.

Entry + 1 beer = $5.

Private dance =$20.

VIP =$160.

Condom =$5.

Tip waiter $5.

Gas $3. 50 per gallon = $7. 00.

Parking = $4.

Total damage $201.

Fucking hot latina bent over a cocktail table = priceless!Hey Mavrick 7,

I completely agree with you: Fucking a hot latina bent over a cocktail table= priceless.

That is why I go to Mexico to have fun. Mexicanas are as close as I can get to Brazilian women.

Man, I do miss "as gostosas brasileiras" especially as "gauchas"

[Willy949]

Thanks guys for the update info on Tecolote and other bars. Haven't made it down to Nogi yet since my plans got changed.

W949

[AmanteDeLatina]

I noticed there has been no mention of La Conga in quite some time. Just curious, is it even still in existence?

[Arizonan82]

I noticed there has been no mention of La Conga in quite some time. Just curious, is it even still in existence?Hello Tempe Jon,

About a month ago I felt like checking out other parts of Nogales away from the border, so I hired a guide.

He took me to Nogales mall, but on the way there we stopped at La Conga. It was a Sunday night around 8pm and it was closed. It was a surprise for both of us.

Later I asked one of the locals, and he confirmed that La Conga went out of business.

AZ82

[AmanteDeLatina]

Wow, It sounds like Nogales is withering away. Haven't been there in about 10 years but it sounds like the choices of places are significantly down. There are only 4 places left, right?


Hello Tempe Jon,

About a month ago I felt like checking out other parts of Nogales away from the border, so I hired a guide.

He took me to Nogales mall, but on the way there we stopped at La Conga. It was a Sunday night around 8pm and it was closed. It was a surprise for both of us.

Later I asked one of the locals, and he confirmed that La Conga went out of business.

AZ82

[Arizonan82]

Wow, It sounds like Nogales is withering away. Haven't been there in about 10 years but it sounds like the choices of places are significantly down. There are only 4 places left, right?Hi Tempe Jon,

To the best of my knowledge there are 3 strip clubs (Studio69, Boleiros, Obsession's) 2 MP's (Eros, Osiris) several bars where working girls hang out (the one I am most familiar with is Salon Regis)

You also have the option of working girls who hang out at hotels across the street from Salon Regis and pimps who can get you girls at reasonable prices; however, these girls in many occasions can be the same ones that hang out at Salon Regis or at the hotels across the street.

AZ82

[The Hammer1169]

I live in Tucson and visit there routinely to buy steroids. Avoid Nogales for their clubs. Obsessions is rediculous. Went there for a beer and had every hustle you can imagine thrown at me. I lived in Mexico for years and married a stripper from Mexicali. So I know the game. I sat down in Obsessions and the waiter immediately got pushy. Spoke great English because he grew up in the states then got deported. $160. 00 for the girl of your choice, but the house wants $40. 00 for a dingy back room. I told him I wasn't interested and was just there to burn time. He then brings some chick over and sits her on my lap; an American girl who lived in Nogales. She asks for a drink and the guy tells me $20. 00! I bounced her right off my lap. He would not leave me alone to simply look things over. I walked out. There was one girl there that was very hot, from Veracruz. He told me she turned about six tricks a night. I watched one deal go down with a Mexican businessman.

ADVISORY: If you do go there, listen to this story. DO NOT accept any tours or guides. They will hustle you, want to drink on your buck all night, and you will leave broke and horny. Tell them no and keep walking. Get a cab if not going to Obsessions. I talked with one middle aged guy last time I was there. He looked like a whipped dog. He said he went down with $300. 00 to go straight to picking up a girl and return to the states. He got hustled as soon as he crossed the border and accepted a "guide" to Bolleros. Guy wouldn't leave him alone, drank his beer all night and kept the girls away, and then at 1:30 when this American wanted to leave, demanded a $40. 00 tip! The guy said he paid because he was outside alone on the streets. He spent everything but his wad! My suggestion is straight to Obsessions at around 8:30PM when the new shift comes in, no drinks for the girls or lap dances, pick your chick and pay your $160. 00. Also, NEGOTIATE! I had the waiter down to $100. 00 and wasn't even serious because. He thought I wasn't interested. Remember, say no until you get what you want. The girls are hungry there right now. Also; make sure you emphasize a full hour. I know all their tricks: They will try a no condom BJ, get you to pop in 5-minutes and demand their money. YOU control positions and movement or they will try to get you off as fast as you can and you will leave with an empty wallet and a ten minute expereince. I know MANY strippers from Mexico and have heard all their stories. They know their business well. They know guys pop past cowboy and doggie and will try to pull you in to clear the deal faster. Also, they try to dominate the session; be assertive and control positions Etc.

[The Hammer1169]

Hi W949,

There are also working girls that hang out at Hotel Frontera and Hotel Martinez right across from Salon Regis. There are more options on the weekends.

You can also try Tony and Gilberto. They can find you girls for reasonable prices. They usually are hanging out on the corner south of Obsessions by the hot dog stand. If they are not there, ask for them because they are usually around.

I hope this info helps,

AZ82Now that I read this, I do recall being down there about a month ago and some dude was out in front of St. Regis, right by Obssesions. He asked me if I wanted girl, and I said no, but as they always do he sent this old lady running into the Motel anyway. She brings out a fairly nice looking girl of about 19-23 years old. Girl kissed me on the cheek and I said no thanks. Deal was $50. 00 for the room and the girl together. The last time I was there, about two weeks ago, different guy was at the same door with a girl that could not have been 15-16 years old. He asks me if I want a girl and I said absolutely no. Warning: Mexico has a law relatively new called the "corruption of minors" law. Put you away for awhile with it too. When I lived in San Luis RC Mexico an elderly man and his adult son were apparently in Algodones as legitimate tourists. They were taking pictures of the town. Ain't much there. When some young girls came running up and asked if they would take their picture. Guy said ok, and snapped some shots of them giggling and laughing in the streets. Their mom saw it, grabbed the cops, and they locked them both up under that new law. Two years in jail and they finally released the old man because he was sick. Finally, I married a Mexican stripper a few years ago. She is 17 years younger than me and at the time of this incident was 25. But, she is very small and petite and has an almost prepubescent appearance, in fact to this day she could easily pass for 18. I get pulled over on a typical Mexican shakedown, and after the cop got put on blast by my wife for being an "extortionist" he turns to me and says "you are going to jail for corruption of a minor." My wife steps right on him, yes dyamite comes in a small packages, and tells him she is 25 and my wife. They are all over that down there. Good thing too.

[The Hammer1169]

I arrived in Nogales around 6pm. I went directly to Studio69 to see if my ATF was there. Luckily she was working. I texted her but she has not replied. She told me she did not have credits on her phone. Originally, I was thinking about trying another girl, get some variety. I texted Tony but he did not reply. Last time I went to Nogales I got a girl for $ 50 bucks. It was a decent fuck but it was somehow mechanical and rushed. I hate that. I was not with an adventurous spirit and this time I decided to spend more money and get together with my ATF. I get a great GFE for still a reasonable price. I waited for her at the usual spot and time, and there she was. We went to eat and something strange happened. She claimed her cell phone reception was not good inside the restaurant. She went outside and came back telling me a family emergency happened. She promised she would be back in no more than one hour. I felt there was something strange there.

Anyways, I finished eating and then walked outside and saw Tony and started talking with him. As usual, he claimed he did not receive my texts. It is funny because he has gotten my messages before, but now he seems to ignore them. He told me he wanted to introduce me to a girl who he claimed was her first night working. Come on Tony, tell me another joke. The girl was not my type. On the other hand, the hot dog girl caught my eye and I asked Tony if she worked as a "dama de compania". He would investigate and would let me know. Later he told me she did not work in the business. What a pity!

Meanwhile, my ATF sent me an apologetic message stating her sister was having a baby and she could not make it. Come on, first you tell me you will be back in one hour. And now you are saying you will not be able to make it. Maybe her excuse was true, but I do not believe her. I would bet that another customer who PAYS MORE, requested her services. Maybe one of you guys. I was so damned pissed off. I have told her I do not mind her having other clients. I understand her. She is not my girlfriend and that is her job. But do not lie to me. Next time I go to Studio69, she will come to my table and greet me as she usually does and ask if we are meeting at the usual time and place. It will be payback time, I will tell her not tonight honey and then invest my time on one of her co-workers who I have been checking out lately and I want to give her a try. This lady apparently does not have kids, which is unusual. I want to find out for sure.

Tony convinced me to check out Obsessions. I stayed there a bit and then left once again to Studio69. The waiter that serves me was there and we chatted for a while. Business was kind of slow. Next time if I go there between Thursday and Saturday night and if there are enough waiters / waitresses at Studio69, this guy will take me to Barra del Greco, one of the higher end dance clubs in town. He said he will hook me up with the bartender who knows a lot of girls that go there. But he told me I will have to spend money to have a good time with a girl.

By the way, the waitress at Studio 69, Luz who I thought could be a potential ATF, after I asked her if she recognized me from last week, she said she did not. If she at least had pretended I would have bought it. It is too bad for her because I am not going to invest my time and money anymore getting to know her.

On a side note for newbies or the ones who have not been to Nogales yet but plan to go there anytime soon. After going there about 10 times in the last 4 months I will add my first-hand experiences of this town as well as the feedback I got from locals.

First, do not believe when board members claim you can get ANY girl for $50 dollars. Yes, you can get SOME girls for that price but not ANY. And usually these girls are not that attractive and their service is not that good, I. E, it will not be GFE, if that is what you are looking for.

Second, you can get a girl that works at a club after her shift for $ 65-$80 bucks for the whole night. That is very unlikely to happen in the first few times you go out with her. Only of course if you are lucky enough. Board members, who claimed they did that, forgot to mention they had seen this girl many times before and had spent hundreds of dollars on her (maybe they mentioned those details on previous posts but I did not read it carefully). Usually, only girls who do not have kids and / or family in town will spend the night with you. However, the majority of working girls in Nogales have kids.

Third, it is very unlikely to pick up a girl for 'free' at the local bars such as Regis. The ones who claimed they did that most likely spoke Spanish fluently, had a great game and the girl was too drunk or she was not that attractive. Again you can get lucky. However, girls, as mentioned before, usually have kids and they need money to support them, pay rent, etc. Thus, they will ask for money to be with you.

Fourth, YMMV getting DFK and BBBJ. If you are inside the club and in a MP, you will get a CBJ and not likely to get DFK. Girls will usually provide those services if they had been with you before and if they enjoy your company. Probably if you pay more and request DFK and BBBJ you will get those services with some girls. But I have not tried it. I tell a girl who I see as a potential ATF: do whatever you feel comfortable with and then respect her decision and do not push her to do what she does not want to perform. But, if I just want to have fun for that night and do not want to invest time and money in getting to know the girl, I ask upfront what services she provides. ALWAYS PAY AFTER the services are offered.

Fifth, also YMMV requesting a girl's phone number to meet her outside the club, or MP. Some girls are afraid to give out their phone numbers and management finding out about it. Also, the girl might just not like you and thus will not give her phone number. My ATF has told me, she does give her phone number to anyone, especially if the person has been rude or disrespectful with her. She added that she has her dignity and does not go out with any men. Also, the girl only might give her digits to you because she is trying to be nice and get you to buy a drink, dance, etc. But do not count on her replying to your messages or meeting you afterwards. My point is there is no guarantee if you get a girl's phone number she will meet you outside the club or MP. Your odds will increase if: you meet her the same day you got her digits or shortly afterwards, you have spent some money on her buying drinks, dances, etc, she 'liked' you, she wants extra cash.

My overall message is: GO and DO THE WORK, SEE, EXPERIENCE for yourself. Do not believe in everything board members write here including myself.

One point board members, who have been to Nogales more often, will probably agree: the more often you see one girl, the closer and intimate she gets and better quality service she offers. From all the girls I have been with in my life, the best experiences were not with the hotter ones, but with the more intimate ones and these girls were not necessarily the hotter ones.

Best of luck to all,

AZ82I read this post with abit of a twinkle in my eye. You mention "Newbies" in here but yet act surprised that your favorite girl dicked you around. Look, I have fallen a couple times for all those excuses. They are gamers; period. Where you are right is your pricing and services paragraphs. It is generally BS that guys get freebies, and you are right, those that do date a girl for awhile and then slide into that roll of a BF. No offense, but only younger or good looking guys with some money get that roll. Also, you are correct in that the more they get comfortable with you the better the service will be. I have had so many BS stories early in my "hunting" days that I believe nobody. As far as strippers go, you are right; expect $160-$200 period. This BS of $80 doesn't apply in strip clubs unless it is a CBJ in the VIP booth; period! Maybe the brothels of Mexicali but Nogales strippers; no go! Also, the telephone number exchange: I dated a stripper from Mexicali and eventually married her. Been with her five years and she is an awesome wife and never stripped again and we rarely talk about that part of her life, but back to the telephones. She had three when I met her! One was for clients and it rarely had time paid on it. She said when they asked for her number that was the one she gave unless she had interest in the guy. One was a radio that her and I used to talk on from the states to Mexicali, and one was for her friends and family. I still joke with her about how I worked my way from the client phone to the family phone! But, I know allot about the industry and it appears you do too. You just lost me when you seem disappointed you got ditched. That girl had a BF and had to leave. Period. Nogales in my opinion is a bust though. I still go there to buy steroids, and have been in obsessions a few times. I know the American girl mentioned on here. She goes by Tanya, and lives in Nogales, Az. Wants to be a nurse and is leaving for Tucson to start at Pima College.

[The Hammer1169]

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[Stripper Luv]

I know this is an old post, but I can't help but say it. My God, you shouldn't even leave your house!"The best way to get a guide is ask someone in the street." That's a good way to get a knife stuck in your ribs! You deserved to get ripped off dude! I don't believe I have ever heard of anything so damn dumb in my life. You got hustled at every stop you made. Do your self a favor: Watch porn and beat off. Probably fuck that up too.I agree. This guy would fuck up a wet dream. Seriously dude, you hand a $50 bill to a club pimp and expect change? They don't have $5, $10, $20 bills where you come from? You some kind of drug lord? Two words: common sense.

[The Hammer1169]

La Plaza pharmacy in Nogales has Viagra on a good sell. I bought 8 yesterday for $35. 00 and came home. I cut them in half. Took half, chewed it up, and an hour later was pounding the wife with a severely stiff one. I like Viagra better than Cialis because Cialis hurts my back and legs, and my nuts ache on it. Viagra is good for four hours and then Johnny gets his break.

Nogales is picking up. I actually was impressed, and I haven't been before. There was a SG in from of the hotel by Obsessions that was very fuckable. She was a spinner. As previously posted, you can get a girl from Obsessions off shift for $75. 00 an hour. They are very hungry right now. Nobody was there except me and three other guys. There's some very nice girls, one in particular was fucking incredible! Probably cost more, but give some damn good memories too, and a few 6-7 type that would probably got to a room for $500 pesos and give more service like anal. Of course there's your 4-5 category fatties too that would probably suck your cock for $20. 00 in your room.

There were two SGs, one petite little girl (I mean body not age) and another about 19 but with a baby. She was "off duty" in front of the hotel but gave the "Tijuana" street girl look when I walked by.

Call Carlos. He can make it much cheaper and less headache.

[Start123]

people like you discourage what you call "newbies" to post on this forum and actually contribute to the knowledge. you created negativity on this forum. you didn't help me or anyone else by insulting me. not every one has an extensive experience like you paying money to mexican working girls. you sound rather angry, perhaps an unfortunate side effect of steroids you buy in nogales?

did you feel better about yourself after writing this? now you do yourself a favor: see a therapist and work out your issues!


i know this is an old post, but i can't help but say it. my god, you shouldn't even leave your house!"the best way to get a guide is ask someone in the street." that's a good way to get a knife stuck in your ribs! you deserved to get ripped off dude! i don't believe i have ever heard of anything so damn dumb in my life. you got hustled at every stop you made. do your self a favor: watch porn and beat off. probably fuck that up too.

[The Hammer1169]

people like you discourage what you call "newbies" to post on this forum and actually contribute to the knowledge. you created negativity on this forum. you didn't help me or anyone else by insulting me. not every one has an extensive experience like you paying money to mexican working girls. you sound rather angry, perhaps an unfortunate side effect of steroids you buy in nogales?

did you feel better about yourself after writing this? now you do yourself a favor: see a therapist and work out your issues!no i didn't feel better. i sat here incredulous that you wrote what you wrote as if you were experienced and knew what the hell you were saying. do you truly believe it is good practice to seek "a person in the street to serve as your guide?" those are your words, written as if you had knowledge of that effectiveness. listen, what if someone read that and went down to mexico and followed your advice? you see where i'm going with this? you could have been knifed on the spot and robbed. dude, it is mexico. they will stick you for $10. 00.

everything you did was very bad practice. if i offended you i'm sorry for that, but you are what we call back home a chicken ready to plucked. listen, let me tell you the best practice: ask nobody to be your guide. they are all on the take. nobody there is your friend. they are sharks swimming in a cesspool of strong survive and weak perish ocean. if those street hawkers come to you, smile and keep walking. don't stop because that is what they want you to do. go straight to obssesions, tell the waiter what you want and what you will pay and do your thing. lap dances and private dances are absolutely a waste of money, a fact you learned. so is buying girls drinks. if you want sex, go get sex.

clearly i touched a nerve in you. listen, don't take offense, take advice. sometimes lessons come with a hard delivery, but often those are the best lessons. that waiter that stuck it to you; believe me he read you as weak and out of your element and took it to you. i had a guy try that with me in algodones. i called him out right in front of everyone. he reached in his pocket and gave me back my money. when you hand any bill over $5. 00, show it and call out the denomination to the waiter. that sends a message they know you expect the correct change. a common trick is you hand a guy a $20. 00 and he brings you back change for a $10. 00. so, hand hime a $20. 00, open it and say "twenty." if they bring back all $1. 00 bills, count every dollar because they will short you. the good waiters like carlos will count out your change. the dirty waiters will lay it out and hope you just stick in your pocket. they will watch you and see if you count or not. if not, next time you will get burned.

i strongly suggest you contact carlos from the link i posted. he can get you many very solid ladies for $100. 00 out of the club and $120. 00 in the club for a full hour.

finally; you could have been killed my friend. your decisions were not very wise. for your sake, don't repeat what you did. view everyone there as being out to rob you blind because they are. i sense in you a degree of naievte; do not think these girls are your friends. do not fall in love. this is a business for them; you make it a business for you too. if those girls sense you are easy, they will skin you and leave you naked in the streets. in fact, i was talking to carlos yesterday about a friend of his from the states. the guy fell in love with a girl carlos hooked him with. carlos kept telling him to leave her, that she was a working girl. the girl cleaned his friend out. it happens to many people.

sorry i offended you, but this site is full of great advice and you followed none of it. you kind of reminded me of a baby lost in the woods! i spent three years living in mexico, with a stripper, and i know them very well. they love guys who show up with a box of chocolates and their hearts on their sleeve.

good luck.

[Fryer45]

people like you discourage what you call "newbies" to post on this forum and actually contribute to the knowledge. you created negativity on this forum. you didn't help me or anyone else by insulting me. not every one has an extensive experience like you paying money to mexican working girls. you sound rather angry, perhaps an unfortunate side effect of steroids you buy in nogales?

did you feel better about yourself after writing this? now you do yourself a favor: see a therapist and work out your issues!hammer1169 was probably a little harsh with his remark (s) , but learn to brush those remark (s) off to the side, and continue to post. everbody can learn something from anyone, whether it is by a "pro" or a "newbie". no worries.

fryer

[Start123]

No I didn't feel better. I sat here incredulous that you wrote what you wrote as if you were experienced and knew what the hell you were saying. Do you truly believe it is good practice to seek "a person in the street to serve as your guide?" Those are your words, written as if you had knowledge of that effectiveness. Listen, what if someone read that and went down to Mexico and followed your advice? You see where I'm going with this? You could have been knifed on the spot and robbed. Dude, it is Mexico. They will stick you for $10. 00.

Everything you did was very bad practice. If I offended you I'm sorry for that, but you are what we call back home a chicken ready to plucked. Listen, let me tell you the best practice: Ask NOBODY to be your guide. They are all on the take. Nobody there is your friend. They are sharks swimming in a cesspool of strong survive and weak perish ocean. If those street hawkers come to you, smile and keep walking. Don't stop because that is what they want you to do. Go straight to Obssesions, tell the waiter what you want and what you will pay and do your thing. Lap dances and private dances are absolutely a waste of money, a fact you learned. So is buying girls drinks. If you want sex, go get sex.

Good luck.I promise not to fall in love with a hooker! Ok? Now I didn't really get ripped off my first time. Yes I paid for 2 and half lap-dances 50 bucks. Still a very good value if you like lap-dances, you get to fondle the girl and they were two-songs lap-dances.

I travel quite a bit, not maybe in Mexico but in other third world countries. Thus far I have had pretty good experiences making friends with a local and ask them to quickly show me around town. When I came to Nogales, even though I looked on the map where the clubs were, I still wasn't able to orient myself. I picked a regular guy who was just getting off work and offered him few bucks to show me all the clubs. He wasn't a hustler, he had work clothes and looked like he was painting something. I think this was better than me walking around town looking for something I don't know where it is and get robed.

Obsesions is the biggest rip-off in my opinion. The girls are ugly there and they are running all kinds of scams! I like better the clubs over by the rail tracks. Better selections, less hustle and the prices are about the same.

I haven't paid more than 50 in Nogales since I first went there. I hooked up with a girl in one of the hotels by Obsessions and the others were arranged through a guide like your friend Carlos.

How unsafe / or safe is it to take a taxi to a club 15 minutes from the border? I have an interest / fetish that I couldn't find closer to the border but was told it was available in one of the clubs a little far way. I can't post on here what it is, but PM me if you are curious.

[The Hammer1169]

I promise not to fall in love with a hooker! Ok? Now I didn't really get ripped off my first time. Yes I paid for 2 and half lap-dances 50 bucks. Still a very good value if you like lap-dances, you get to fondle the girl and they were two-songs lap-dances.

I travel quite a bit, not maybe in Mexico but in other third world countries. Thus far I have had pretty good experiences making friends with a local and ask them to quickly show me around town. When I came to Nogales, even though I looked on the map where the clubs were, I still wasn't able to orient myself. I picked a regular guy who was just getting off work and offered him few bucks to show me all the clubs. He wasn't a hustler, he had work clothes and looked like he was painting something. I think this was better than me walking around town looking for something I don't know where it is and get robed.

Obsesions is the biggest rip-off in my opinion. The girls are ugly there and they are running all kinds of scams! I like better the clubs over by the rail tracks. Better selections, less hustle and the prices are about the same.

I haven't paid more than 50 in Nogales since I first went there. I hooked up with a girl in one of the hotels by Obsessions and the others were arranged through a guide like your friend Carlos.

How unsafe / or safe is it to take a taxi to a club 15 minutes from the border? I have an interest / fetish that I couldn't find closer to the border but was told it was available in one of the clubs a little far way. I can't post on here what it is, but PM me if you are curious.The taxi isn't the issue nor is getting inside the city a little bit deeper. My concern would be divulging your fetish and getting lured to an unknown destination where something more can be waiting; like a kidnapping or robbery. Even the taxi drivers are dirty, for the most part. I say as little as possible to anyone when I'm in Mexico.

Regarding your fetish, I really don't have interest an hearing about it. To each his own. Again, be careful what you wish for in Mexico because it often comes with a few surprises. Also, you had mentioned in the original post about thinking of approaching girls "cold" in the street. That is a good way to end up in jail or getting your ass kicked. The overwhelming majority of girls in Mexico are solid kids. They are just like girls from the states, in school and with protective parents behind them. They would likely run from you, call a cop, or call for help (worst case scenario) best case scenario you get your ass chewed and humiliated.

Also, Mexico has a new law, relatively new, called the "corruption of minor law." If you accidently approached a girl under 18 about anything perceived sexually suggestive it is up to 25 years in prison. So be very careful. The law in Mexico is reverse in relationship to the United States. In Mexico you are considered guilty until proven innocent. Your lawyer has to try and come up with direct evidence that you did not do what you are accused of and prove it in court. In the interim you serve out your sentence. So, don't approach girls in the streets! The clubs have to provide evidence the girls are 18 or above, and that they are licensed sex workers. An example: I was in Nogales a few eeks ago and was circling the block by Obsessions. Sitting in front of that sleezy hotel was a girl that looked about 16. A guy asked me if I wanted a girl. I asked him "her?" and he smiles and replies "yes." I said straight out "fuck no" and got away from him and her as fast as I could.

As far as Obsessions and other clubs across the tracks; they are all running the same schemes dude. Nothing has been reinvented in Obsessions that isn't in use in the other clubs. Lap dances and private dances in my opinion are in fact throwing your money away. The girls only let you touch the body parts they want, keep you away from the best, and redirect your hands, usually to the tits, whenever you get too intimate. I want the whole pie, not a piece of it that leaves you unsatisfied.

I was in Mexicali a few weeks ago and watched a gringo dump $100. 00 on private dances in a corner of the club. He was just enamored with the girl like she was an idol. I watched how he would try to get at her pussy and she kept guiding his hands up to her tits. He got nothing from her. I thought "why not just pay the $100 right up for a session?" Oh well, whatever turns your crank I guess.

A couple of years ago a man in Nogales, in his 70's, and his adult son were in the streets taking pictures. The story is they asked several girls, who are always running around the streets of Algodones, if they could take their pictures. They offered them $20. 00 to take their pictures. Now the men profess they meant in the streets, not sexually in a hotel. Who knows intent. However, the girls told their moms, who went straight to the police. Both were arrested and charged under that law. They were still fighting for release several years later. The elderly man got out of prison based on humanitarian conditions as his health was failing, and the USA government was working to free his son. So, again, when heading away from the clubs and into the middle of Nogales pursuing fetishes, make sure you know who you are dealing with. Sitting here right now, if I was that taxi driver I would take you to a prearranged house or site, introduce you to minor, then extort the hell out of you. You see how easy that is?

[Pilot Prod]

I'm going to Nogales today. Checking the board I see "NO ACTIVITY" for 2 months. Either its dead or too dangerous or "more likely" its safe (relatively) but everyone is scared off.

I'll post when (if) I get back.

Good hunting.

PP

[Aveeno]

Just moved to tucson. So looking to learn about nogales here.

I'm a Tijuana veteran. Been going there weekly for many years.

From what I've been reading this is what I should do in my first nogales trip:

Walk to club69, obsessions from the border, pick a girl, then negotiate to a price of $100-160 for an hour in a closet without any bed and $40 for the house/$1 tip for the room guard.

OR.

Wait until these girls get off the clock at around 2-3am, and try to negotiate an hour in your room for $100 / hr FS.

Service seems pretty standard. Covered everything.

I also noticed that you negotiate with the bartenders, not with the girls, did I read this correctly? This is different.

I am going down to nogales either today or tomorrow with about $200-300. Never been there before. Please let me know if I'm missing anything. Guides sound promising, but I don't know what they look like and I'm weary of following one around.

[Aveeno]

I wanted to add Nogales as my primary mongering destination as it is much closer to my new home, but I left desperately dissappointed this morning after spending 14hrs shopping. I even had a VERY low expectation going into mexico after reading all the stuff on the web.

I wasn't looking for numbers of hotties. I wasn't looking for a bargain either. I was only looking for ONE do-able chick in the entire block for $200. There wasn't ANY. You honestly will have better luck trying backpages or CV in the states. Most looked like obese ugly sister version of the girl-next-door. Some looked like their post menopausal fat moms. A couple stripper kinds that was recommended by the bartender as "perfect and flawless" for $250 / hr could be featured on the 'faces of meth' website. Most strippers could have been 4 months pregnant with waist being thicker than the bust.

It isn't hard to make a hot chick. Just get a skinny girl with nice skin, put some heavy make-ups, skimpy clothing, proper lighting, and wal la! You have a do-able hooker. Nogales did not have a single one. It wasn't a slow night either.

The whole town reminded me of the bars around Adelitas, Chicago, and HKk catering to the locals. It was a complete waste of time!

[Start123]

I wanted to add Nogales as my primary mongering destination as it is much closer to my new home, but I left desperately dissappointed this morning after spending 14hrs shopping. I even had a VERY low expectation going into mexico after reading all the stuff on the web.

I wasn't looking for numbers of hotties. I wasn't looking for a bargain either. I was only looking for ONE do-able chick in the entire block for $200. There wasn't ANY. You honestly will have better luck trying backpages or CV in the states. Most looked like obese ugly sister version of the girl-next-door. Some looked like their post menopausal fat moms. A couple stripper kinds that was recommended by the bartender as "perfect and flawless" for $250 / hr could be featured on the 'faces of meth' website. Most strippers could have been 4 months pregnant with waist being thicker than the bust.

It isn't hard to make a hot chick. Just get a skinny girl with nice skin, put some heavy make-ups, skimpy clothing, proper lighting, and wal la! You have a do-able hooker. Nogales did not have a single one. It wasn't a slow night either.

The whole town reminded me of the bars around Adelitas, Chicago, and HKk catering to the locals. It was a complete waste of time!Sounds about right! For 200 you can get better quality in Tucson. Just go to any strip club.

[Big Fat E]

Hello Tempe Jon,

About a month ago I felt like checking out other parts of Nogales away from the border, so I hired a guide.

He took me to Nogales mall, but on the way there we stopped at La Conga. It was a Sunday night around 8pm and it was closed. It was a surprise for both of us.

Later I asked one of the locals, and he confirmed that La Conga went out of business.

AZ82I haven't been paying attention to LC for many years. This is sad to hear. I'm sure there are others with more timeatLC, but my time started in '97 thanks to the original another forum.

I met one of the owners who said that the club had been around since the first decade of the last century. Be that as it may, it was at least 60 yrs. Old.

After all the architectural changes forced on them in the past few years, I guess I'm not surprised it was forced to close.

I will miss my "escuela de español" on "Rio de 5 de februario". I will miss Carla- "No Carla, no calor!". And, for all her shit, I will miss Lili.

Adios amiga.

[The Hammer1169]

Was down there last week and dead on a Sunday night at the strip clubs. However; walked outside and (3) girls were doing business right next to obssessions. All (3) were 7-10 in quality with one being a really hot 18yo. Petite girl in skimpy cut off shorts. She was about 5'1 and weighed about 95Lbs. I took her to the hotel for an hour. $65. 00 for her and $15. 00 for the hotel. Paid her $20. 00 extra for anal (covered) and finished BBBJ after nailing her in every position you can imagine. Best f. K I have had since my last visit to Tijuana on the 21st. Girl is a real spinner. I'm going back for more.

[Pilot Prod]

"Carlos" is advertising on Tucson Backpage: http://tucson.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/nogales-girls-seek-boyfriend-18yo-and-up-18/20296172

That he will set you up with a hotel and companion in Nogales for $100.00 per night.

Anyone tried this?

PP

[The Hammer1169]

"Carlos" is advertising on Tucson Backpage:

http://tucson.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/nogales-girls-seek-boyfriend-18yo-and-up-18/20296172

That he will set you up with a hotel and companion in Nogales for $100. 00 per night.

Anyone tried this?

PPI have used him. He works really well. He will work anything out you need. Tell him what you want and he delivers. He has several 18yo. College girls he uses and more mature if you prefer. You can call him or find him at Obsessions. Guy delivers. I met one of his regular clients who goes down twice a month.

[The Hammer1169]

I have used him. He works really well. He will work anything out you need. Tell him what you want and he delivers. He has several 18yo. College girls he uses and more mature if you prefer. You can call him or find him at Obsessions. Guy delivers. I met one of his regular clients who goes down twice a month.Just hear from him today. He said a dude from Tucson read his add and showed up. Left really happy and satisfied. That is one of many people I know he delivered for. Only one guy so far has complained. He wanted to negotiate from $100. 00 a full hour, full service to $60. 00. Carlos had no room to negotiate and the guy left pissed. These are fresh 18yo. College girls. Worth every dollar.

[SpermFactory]

Decided to shop for a self-Hanukkah present down Nogales way today and found it. Was going to just drop into the massage parlor real quick because was pressed for time, but after the hour drive needed to grab a cold beer first. Stopped by Salon Regis for a coldie and found a bunch of locals so I went to the end of the bar. That happened to be right next to the one hot female in the place- turned out to be Melinda. She gave me the bang eye as I walked past so I had a hint of what was about to happen, but I didn't know for sure. But when I was sitting there havin 3 or 4 beers some old man was hagglin with her offering her 50 bucks for an hour, so I figured it out real quick. She wasn't havin it, and as best I could tell with my brokeass Spanish understandin, she was holding out for 70 for an hour.

I thought she was pretty hot, maybe a solid 8, but my scale is biased because I freakin LOVE slightly older Mexican chicks. Most guys would probably rate her a little lower. I didn't want to impose on the old man's stake though, so I waited for her to tell him to eff off before I started moving on anything. The bartender was still pushin her to do the old man so I told her to just meet me at the corner. We met at la esquina and went across the street to the Frontera and got a room for 15 bucks and Melinda for 70. Took as long as I needed- which was a while because we went twice, and then bounced out while she stayed for a shower. Great body, solid B cup with nipples grande and nicely trimmed gooch.

I never picked up nothing at Regis- certainly not at 4:30 in the afternoon- so I thought I would throw it out there.

[Stripper Luv]

Headed to Nogales this afternoon for a combination Valentine's Day celebration and fourth anniversary with my Mexican wife, an infamous Nogales club girl working at Boleiros. Last year she organized a surprise party at Boleiros where about 20 of our friends showed up. Even though we've been married four years, we've known each other for twenty years. If any of you have been Nogie regulars the past umpteen years then you've undoubtedly fucked her. She still works occasionally but the club business is so bad that she's mostly retired to take care of me and make me happy. Since everyone there knows her, we can go out on the town and feel safe and welcome even though I'm her gringo husband.

I'm anxious to see what she has in store for me this year.

I'll report.

[MKN2112]

I have done Tijuana a few times, never disappointed, however I have never been to Nogales.

I am looking for some basic information, places good, places to avoid, general prices, how soon in the morning, how late at night, etc.

My interest is in something like Tijuana's Club Adeltia with rooms for rent next door.

Me

[The Hammer1169]

I have done Tijuana a few times, never disappointed, however I have never been to Nogales.

I am looking for some basic information, places good, places to avoid, general prices, how soon in the morning, how late at night, etc.

My interest is in something like Tijuana's Club Adeltia with rooms for rent next door.

MeYou won't find ANYTHING like Tijauna in Nogales. Nothing. I know the place really well. Here is my suggestion; you go to a club called Obsessions and ask for Carlos. He has a string he runs of girls age 18-28. He can hook you up for $100. 00 an hour and will direct you to a good hotel. He is square and won't mess you up. You can get FS in the club itself but the club wants it cut. Also; last time I was there (3) street girls were being pimped in front of a hotel next to the club. All three were good but one caught my eye. About 5'2 and 95Lbs. $60. 00 an hour with extras negotiable. Best time to go is Wednesday through Saturday. 3:00PM to whenever. Don't expect anything like Tijauna though. Totally different; very small scale. Carlos has hooked up many people I directed there and provides a great service. He takes a loss though as the guys bypass him and get the girl's number themselves. Recently a dude that is 55 hooked up with an 18 year old. Carlos said the guy is down there every weekend sowing his oats.

[RedTail]

Does Carlos ask to be paid up front before services rendered? Or can payment be made afterwards? And can you just hang out in the club and find Carlos or ask a waitress for him?

Thanks

[The Hammer1169]

Does Carlos ask to be paid up front before services rendered? Or can payment be made afterwards? And can you just hang out in the club and find Carlos or ask a waitress for him?

ThanksHe works at the club and likely will be the first waiter to come to you. He speaks perfect English. Ask the first waiter you see for him. He is always there. Tell him "mike" sent you and he will hook you up.

The way he works is you tell him what you are looking for in terms of age and body type; 18 and above by the way. He will show you pictures of the girls that he works with, you make your pick, and he will broker the deal. I suggest you have him direct you to a hotel and he will send the girl to you. These are not tired out,"experienced" girls. Most are college age that do this on the side. DON'T work any deal for the girls in the club! The club wants a cut, and the rate is $150. 00 for about 40-minutes in the back room. Tell Carlos you want the girl in your own room. He uses a hotel that is clean and moderately priced. Allot of the guys tag two girls a weekend so they stay down there and make a binge out of it.

As for payment, the girls normally want their payment when they arrive to your room. I would suggest you not pay Carlos or anyone anything until the girl is in your room, and it is clear what you expect for your money. I don't know if you have done this before, but the worse thing you can do is not be open about your likes. This is a business, and talk business before any agreement is made. Many times guys get "ideas" they want to carry out and the girls don't see it the same way! Tell Carlos straight out what you want. If you want uncovered BJ tell him. If you like anal, tell him. He knows the girls who provide special services. You can always try to work that out with the girl too, but my suggestion is you tell Carlos exactly what you like.

I actually ran his add on Backpage in Tucson for him. He had pictures of several girls. I think it was under "Nogales ladies seel boyfriends."

Look; he is for real, he is trustworthy, and he delivers for a price half what the girls in Tucson charge on Backpage or the clubs. Again; he has hooked up several guys from Tucson who now return every couple of weeks and see their "girl." He gets pissed about that because it takes him out of the cut, but if I was a client the first thing I would do is get the girls cell number so I could hook up when I want and where I want. By the way; I met my wife that way! She was a stripper in Mexicali / Tijuana. I hooked up with her, got her number, and the rest is history. Been married and in the states five years. She is 20 years younger and an AWESOME dedicated wife.

[RedTail]

Many thanks. I saw his BP ad link on a previous report. I've done this before just not in MX. Looks like I'll be down there on a Wed or Thu night in a few weeks. Would hate to miss the chance to party with a hot Latina when I'm there. And it helps to know the details before I cross.

I have a few more questions but I'll keep reading past posts before I start asking more. Just found this International guide as I've been on th USA guide for a while now.


He works at the club and likely will be the first waiter to come to you. He speaks perfect English. Ask the first waiter you see for him. He is always there. Tell him "mike" sent you and he will hook you up.

The way he works is you tell him what you are looking for in terms of age and body type; 18 and above by the way. He will show you pictures of the girls that he works with, you make your pick, and he will broker the deal. I suggest you have him direct you to a hotel and he will send the girl to you. These are not tired out,"experienced" girls. Most are college age that do this on the side. DON'T work any deal for the girls in the club! The club wants a cut, and the rate is $150. 00 for about 40-minutes in the back room. Tell Carlos you want the girl in your own room. He uses a hotel that is clean and moderately priced. Allot of the guys tag two girls a weekend so they stay down there and make a binge out of it.

As for payment, the girls normally want their payment when they arrive to your room. I would suggest you not pay Carlos or anyone anything until the girl is in your room, and it is clear what you expect for your money. I don't know if you have done this before, but the worse thing you can do is not be open about your likes. This is a business, and talk business before any agreement is made. Many times guys get "ideas" they want to carry out and the girls don't see it the same way! Tell Carlos straight out what you want. If you want uncovered BJ tell him. If you like anal, tell him. He knows the girls who provide special services. You can always try to work that out with the girl too, but my suggestion is you tell Carlos exactly what you like.

I actually ran his add on Backpage in Tucson for him. He had pictures of several girls. I think it was under "Nogales ladies seel boyfriends."

Look; he is for real, he is trustworthy, and he delivers for a price half what the girls in Tucson charge on Backpage or the clubs. Again; he has hooked up several guys from Tucson who now return every couple of weeks and see their "girl." He gets pissed about that because it takes him out of the cut, but if I was a client the first thing I would do is get the girls cell number so I could hook up when I want and where I want. By the way; I met my wife that way! She was a stripper in Mexicali / Tijuana. I hooked up with her, got her number, and the rest is history. Been married and in the states five years. She is 20 years younger and an AWESOME dedicated wife.

[MKN2112]

I'll be there in a couple of weeks. I do not want Carlos pissed at me so. He receives his finder's fee, post, directly from the young lady? The club is not a problem, even though they are not receiving their cut of the action?

Looking at the street view on google maps it is clear that there are a number of "hotels" near by. Any to avoid? I would like to get one for the entire afternoon if possible and just go back there a second time. Everything by the hour, or is there a slightly longer term available?

You mention US$ and other sites in general talk a lot about pesos. If there an advantage to local currency or is it a problem at all?

I will be sure to give you credit, especially if it would help your standing in the area.

Me

[Granjefe]

I need to know where to park the vehicle over night on the Arizona side. How secure is this option?

[Typical Tim]

New to the whole online mongering so please bear with me while I learn the letter jargon and forum speak.

I parked by the McDonalds and walked across the bridge today around 2pm to see what Nogales had to offer. I was impressed with the streets and people in general were nice. Righ off the bat I was hounded by the "dogs" as I call them in Laredo and just ignored them as a few posters have mentioned here. I got a mini map and Carlos' number to know my bearings and set up a date.

The railroad was quite easy to locate using the map and walked over to Eros and Bolerios on the other side of the tracks. Eros had a very nice spinner by the name of Alexa and was very happy with the time spent with her. $120 got the girl for the hour and the hotel California right behind the club also. Yes I know I could have gotten cheaper and I have to admit that I wanted this beautiful treat. DFA, DATY, BBBJ, CG, Mish but no anal was asked or tried. She was 5'6" and about 105lbs light complexion with dark curled hair past her shoulders. Got her number for next time and we agreed on $80 FS. I look forward to that.

Walked over and bought a TelCell so I can communicate while I am in country. Down few doors from the Cell guy was a nice taco stand and then down the street to Obsessions. Oh wait, back to the other club, Bolerios. It was just as read here, dark and couldn't see the girls on stage other than the strobe light snapping off. Thats where I met AShley and bought her a two drinks. She climbed aboard and started to lap dance, I asked if this was free and after her saying no I told her I never asked for a dance. We then agreed shed be up front about any "payable" services. She was about 5'7" and 130lbs. Some baby scars but very nicely built. Ass and tits were great also. Mention she spoke perfect English was a bonus. I straight up said I wasnt paying for any club girls due to the prices and told her what I was expecting. She agreed to meet me after her shift for the round trip to the moon and back for $80 plus room. Anal would cost me an extra $10 if I wanted it. She went to the restroom and snuck me her number and out the door I went.

I mostly walked around getting to know the mercado and enjoy the beautiful day it had become. I was more after an information mission this time as it was my first to this location. I do have to say I like it better than Laredo. Talked to a guy next to the cell phone store who tried to convince me the cigars he had were true Cubans. They had xerox copies of the label and misspelled Cohiga, at a steal of a price he said, $25 each, talked him down to $10. Smelled like attic mildew. I laughed and walked on to other shops where I was again persuaded to buy a true Rolex. I loved the conviction this guy had trying to get me to believe him. Lots of beautiful women walking around and police also, either in back of trucks or on bikes. Like I said, I was surprised how safe it felt compared to Laredo and the walled in "Boys Town".

I left just after dark and came back across but after the day I had I will be going back for sure. The posts I've read here on the board are exactly as it was there. OH, tried calling Carlos but never got an answer. I told a few of the "dogs" I would only deal with him and both told me he was fired from Obsessions for overcharging customers. I took it for a grain of salt and ill try to call him again next time I go down there. I had an enjoyable time.

Typical Tim

[Chica Luv]

The I've always used the parking lot across from Buger King. They're several lots next to one another, but it is the one directly behind the UETA Duty Free store. The back of the Duty Free store is actually inside of the parking lot fense. I have left my car there 3-4 days at a time and never had any problems.

CL.


I need to know where to park the vehicle over night on the Arizona side. How secure is this option?

[Chica Luv]

TT.

Great report. Sounds like you did everything right. I always used the TelCel hookup. At one time I had about 30 strippers numbers. It was a lot of fun. I always stayed at the Fray Marcos. It is a little more expensive, but was very secure and quite. If you stay there, don't take their initial quoted rate. They will usually go as low as 675 pesos. They also have room service from their restaurant and bar, great for entertaining in your room between EVENTs or the morning after.

CL

[Artisttyp]

I do have to say I like it better than Laredo.

Typical TimTT great job with the report and welcome! It seems like you enjoy exploring besides hunting for pfp. Can you elaborate more on the above comment. Was there good food to be had and things to do besides monger? How is Laredo a dump compared to Nogales?

I've heard that Nogales has no street girls. Did you ask around about that?

Thanks

[The Hammer1169]

New to the whole online mongering so please bear with me while I learn the letter jargon and forum speak.

I parked by the McDonalds and walked across the bridge today around 2pm to see what Nogales had to offer. I was impressed with the streets and people in general were nice. Righ off the bat I was hounded by the "dogs" as I call them in Laredo and just ignored them as a few posters have mentioned here. I got a mini map and Carlos' number to know my bearings and set up a date.

The railroad was quite easy to locate using the map and walked over to Eros and Bolerios on the other side of the tracks. Eros had a very nice spinner by the name of Alexa and was very happy with the time spent with her. $120 got the girl for the hour and the hotel California right behind the club also. Yes I know I could have gotten cheaper and I have to admit that I wanted this beautiful treat. DFA, DATY, BBBJ, CG, Mish but no anal was asked or tried. She was 5'6" and about 105lbs light complexion with dark curled hair past her shoulders. Got her number for next time and we agreed on $80 FS. I look forward to that.

Walked over and bought a TelCell so I can communicate while I am in country. Down few doors from the Cell guy was a nice taco stand and then down the street to Obsessions. Oh wait, back to the other club, Bolerios. It was just as read here, dark and couldn't see the girls on stage other than the strobe light snapping off. Thats where I met AShley and bought her a two drinks. She climbed aboard and started to lap dance, I asked if this was free and after her saying no I told her I never asked for a dance. We then agreed shed be up front about any "payable" services. She was about 5'7" and 130lbs. Some baby scars but very nicely built. Ass and tits were great also. Mention she spoke perfect English was a bonus. I straight up said I wasnt paying for any club girls due to the prices and told her what I was expecting. She agreed to meet me after her shift for the round trip to the moon and back for $80 plus room. Anal would cost me an extra $10 if I wanted it. She went to the restroom and snuck me her number and out the door I went.

I mostly walked around getting to know the mercado and enjoy the beautiful day it had become. I was more after an information mission this time as it was my first to this location. I do have to say I like it better than Laredo. Talked to a guy next to the cell phone store who tried to convince me the cigars he had were true Cubans. They had xerox copies of the label and misspelled Cohiga, at a steal of a price he said, $25 each, talked him down to $10. Smelled like attic mildew. I laughed and walked on to other shops where I was again persuaded to buy a true Rolex. I loved the conviction this guy had trying to get me to believe him. Lots of beautiful women walking around and police also, either in back of trucks or on bikes. Like I said, I was surprised how safe it felt compared to Laredo and the walled in "Boys Town".

I left just after dark and came back across but after the day I had I will be going back for sure. The posts I've read here on the board are exactly as it was there. OH, tried calling Carlos but never got an answer. I told a few of the "dogs" I would only deal with him and both told me he was fired from Obsessions for overcharging customers. I took it for a grain of salt and ill try to call him again next time I go down there. I had an enjoyable time.

Typical TimI haven't heard from Carlos recently, but I haven't been down to Nogales in a few weeks either. I doubt he was getting fired for over charging customers as you were told. If he got let go it would be because he was hustling clients away from Obsessions, who does the over charging!

I would not buy a beer for a girl out of that club. I was there a few months ago and this hot little chick walked up and asked me to buy her a drink. I was thinking a $3. 00 beer. Girl asks for a "tequila" and the waiter says $12. 00. Goodbye to the girl and the drink. By the way; the girls don't drink booze most of the time unless they have a few beers. The "drinks" are pineapple juice. Smell one and watch how nervous the girls get. All in the hustle. Carlos told me the girls in that club get $60. 00 for full Service in the back, but the club charges $120. 00 plus a $5. 00 condom!

Street girls; they are a hit or miss in Nogales. I was there about 3-months ago on a Friday afternoon at about 5:00PM. Walked out of Obsessions and right into a wolf who had three girls for offer in front of the hotel that is next to Obsessions. One was a very doable girl and the other two were in the mediocre category. I took the little petite one, about 5'3 100Lbs and 19 up stairs for $60. 00. BBJ to near explosion followed by covered fuck every way you can imagine. I eventually got her doggie style and pulled out, teasing her asshole with my cock. I asked her "cuanto quiero para eso" (how much you want for this?) She replied $10. 00 for which I gladly agreed. I ended out taking off my rubber after indulging in the back door, and got a BBJ to finish. I was back there about 3-weeks ago and never saw her, but did see another girl out in front of the same hotel. So there are SGs there, just nothing like Tijuana. I wouldn't mind a repeat of that night.

[RedTail]

Found my way to Obsession last Wednesday night and enjoyed my visit. Carlos was no where to be found and when I asked about him the answer was either he no longer worked there or was not in on that particular night. It was hard to hear over the loud music. Having no OTC options I decided to spend some quality time with a pretty spinner with curly hair. Paid more than I should have at $160 but the little head was thinking and I really liked the looks of this girl. The room was bare, plain and basic but did the trick. I made sure she earned my money and we had a very satisfying extended session. I was halpy but would have preferred a hotel room.

Previous posts say only pay $100 and then you also need to pay for a room so maybe my $160 wasn't too much over the going rate for those who are regular visitors? I do know the young lady I was with was a great fuck and I left very happy with her and her performance. I'd enjoy spending time with her again. Unfortunately I do not remember her name as it was one I've never encountered before.

[Stripper Luv]

Went to Nogales last night (Saturday) to partake in the annual Tequila Festival. Met my wife (who works at Boleiros) and went to dinner at La Roca first. Afterwards, we strolled over to the fiesta. For $5 you bought a wrist band with which you could sample shots of any tequila (no limit except the discretion of the vendor). There were about 24 vendors set up along four blocks of Obregon street. Had some super specimens. Afterwards, with a warm glow, we went to Obsessions to see a friend. Had a good time there, but there wasn't much in the way of action. Very few dancers and what was there wasn't very desirable. Ended up the evening having great sex with the esposa.

[Quick Love]

Haven't seen any recent posts for a few weeks, I wrote 2 email for a sex tour in nogales haven't recieved a response from ladiesofnogales.com, last time I went was about 2 months ago, was pretty slow. I plan to got again probably tomorrow (04-13-13) since my Tijuana trip was canceled.

[The Hammer1169]

Found my way to Obsession last Wednesday night and enjoyed my visit. Carlos was no where to be found and when I asked about him the answer was either he no longer worked there or was not in on that particular night. It was hard to hear over the loud music. Having no OTC options I decided to spend some quality time with a pretty spinner with curly hair. Paid more than I should have at $160 but the little head was thinking and I really liked the looks of this girl. The room was bare, plain and basic but did the trick. I made sure she earned my money and we had a very satisfying extended session. I was halpy but would have preferred a hotel room.

Previous posts say only pay $100 and then you also need to pay for a room so maybe my $160 wasn't too much over the going rate for those who are regular visitors? I do know the young lady I was with was a great fuck and I left very happy with her and her performance. I'd enjoy spending time with her again. Unfortunately I do not remember her name as it was one I've never encountered before.Just got a call from Carlos in Nogales. He was out of town. He never got fired from Obsessions. He left to go out of town. He has a string of girls he is working. 18-24. All his girls are 7-10. PM for his number or look him up on Backpage tucson under "Nogales girls seek boyfriends" He is legit. I can attest to it.

[Lord Of Sex]

Just got a call from Carlos in Nogales. He was out of town. He never got fired from Obsessions. He left to go out of town. He has a string of girls he is working. 18-24. All his girls are 7-10. PM for his number or look him up on Backpage tucson under "Nogales girls seek boyfriends" He is legit. I can attest to it.Hey The Hammer1169, I am just wanted to know if the hotel is included with the price and how long is the service for? I sure like to give Carlos a call and his girls a try. Also can I just send him a txt?

[RedTail]

Thanks for the update Hammer. Good to know Carlos is still around to help us out. Looking forward to my next trip to Nogales.

[The Hammer1169]

Hey The Hammer1169, I am just wanted to know if the hotel is included with the price and how long is the service for? I sure like to give Carlos a call and his girls a try. Also can I just send him a txt?No, the hotel is separate from the girl. That would kind of be like going to Hong Kong in Tijauna, renting a room for $50. 00 and getting the girl of your choice too!

The girl is an hour minimum at $100. 00. Carlos will set you up, if you choose, in a clean hotel that is about $40. 00 a night. Most guys that are using him spend Friday and Saturday. Tell him right up front what you like; anal, BBJ, whatever so he can get you the girl that provides that service. Bottom line; unlike HK club or SG's you don't have to buy drinks, or barter. The girl comes to your space and you get your full hour. We have a few guys who got to know the girls and they spend time outside the room and have a relationship. To each his own.

You can text him but you need the country code, city code, and number. In fact, he will likely call you back to talk it over. PM me for his number.

[Zman1]

I am posting for the first time in this section, usually go to Algodones. Thanks to all of your information. It will prove helpful. I will stay at Fray Marcos. I do have an inquiry. Does anyone know of a cute brunett name Noelle, that might be working at one of the clubs, She was previously working I Algodones. I heard she moved back to Nogales, where she is from. If you know of her please let me know. Many thanks Gentelman!

[Member #4303]

Saw all this talk about Carlos, walked into nogales found him in less than a minute, nothing special about him, I didn't use him. I went to Nogales from 04-07 and just returned and recognized negro (yes that's his name hes been there 17 years) and I find him helpful. [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] whats all the secrecy about phone numbers this is nogales. Theres people like him that speak both Spanish / English and I know for a fact his females are legit remember fifty is what the girl gets so if you pay 100 guess who gets the other fifty you can tip your guide more yourself or pay the female more and have her tip the guide and you still owe the guide a tip so 5 is actually 55 or you could pay sixty to the female she tips the guide 10 and for improved service tip your guide 20 therefore he can hang with you afterwards at the bar this is what I do I've seen some smart americans their loyalty goes along way too. Cheers for info only don't want to argue right and wrong with you guys.

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[Member #4303]

Saw all this talk about Carlos, walked into nogales found him in less than a minute, nothing special about him, I didn't use him. I went to Nogales from 04-07 and just returned and recognized negro (yes that's his name hes been there 17 years) and I find him helpful. [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] Whats all the secrecy about phone numbers this is nogales. Theres people like him that speak both Spanish / English and I know for a fact his females are legit remember fifty is what the girl gets so if you pay 100 guess who gets the other fifty you can tip your guide more yourself or pay the female more and have her tip the guide and you still owe the guide a tip so 5 is actually 55 or you could pay sixty to the female she tips the guide 10 and for improved service tip your guide 20 therefore he can hang with you afterwards at the bar this is what I do I've seen some smart americans their loyalty goes along way too. Cheers for info only don't want to argue right and wrong with you guys.

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[The Hammer1169]

Pm me for phone number of previous post if interested.I find that interesting. You "found" Carlos in less than 5-minues? He was out of Nogales until the 23. Look; there's allot of hustlers along the line and likely allot of Carlos' too. The one I posted about is legit. What did he look like?

Whatever; I get nothing out of it. Just trying to help visitors avoid getting ripped off. I know Carlos and his girls.

[Member #4303]

He was out front of obsessions, I said whos Carlos he said me, I said I heard about you, he said yea I put an ad on BP. For nogales girls, he said let me show you my I'd it said carlos he was Mexican short shaved head starting to grow back

It that's your boy stick with him just letting people know theres a cool dude I deal with.


I find that interesting. You "found" Carlos in less than 5-minues? He was out of Nogales until the 23. Look; there's allot of hustlers along the line and likely allot of Carlos' too. The one I posted about is legit. What did he look like?

Whatever; I get nothing out of it. Just trying to help visitors avoid getting ripped off. I know Carlos and his girls.

[Member #4303]

I find that interesting. You "found" Carlos in less than 5-minues? He was out of Nogales until the 23. Look; there's allot of hustlers along the line and likely allot of Carlos' too. The one I posted about is legit. What did he look like?

Whatever; I get nothing out of it. Just trying to help visitors avoid getting ripped off. I know Carlos and his girls.The 23rd was the day I was there. Seemed like an ok guy just didn't want to use him.

[The Hammer1169]

He was out front of obsessions, I said whos Carlos he said me, I said I heard about you, he said yea I put an ad on BP. For nogales girls, he said let me show you my I'd it said carlos he was Mexican short shaved head starting to grow back

It that's your boy stick with him just letting people know theres a cool dude I deal with.I suppose at the end of the day they all do the same thing! Hustle. The reason I suggested Carlos is he tries to put the whole package together. The guys who have used him return to him because he sets them up from the best hotel at their budget, and he has a pretty good string of girls. But whatevere works for a person. All of the hustlers bare watching as they can get in your wallet worse than the girls! What I like about him is his girls are generally fresh. They are not some hag. Most are 18-22 and clean.

As for me; I assume everyone in Nogales is out to pick my pocket. It is one of the worse places I have went to in Mexico for getting slammed by dozens of "guides" the second you cross. In fact, last time I saw Carlos down there I bought him a beer and he forgot he was dealing with a guy who speaks spanish and married a stripper from Mexicali. I have seen it all; he started trying to hustle me for buckets of beer, and get deeper. I put the brakes on real fast. I lived (3) years down there making the circuit from Cancun to Mexicali with my lady. I know every trick in the book.

I watch so many middle aged men get plucked in Nogales I can't count them. Hell; Los Algodones and Mexicali too. I usually just sit and watch guy after guy get drained of every dollar in their pocket.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I have not been to Nogales in over 15 years. From what I understand this place has changed considerably in that there are not near as many places to go to. I am right now in the process of updating the ISG mongering map that was made quite some time ago. The thing is I am not up to date on the Nogales scene anymore. I was wondering what clubs and other mongering places are still in existence there. I do know that Obsessions is still in existence there and I have been told La Conga and La Tecolote is gone. From what I understand almost all of the nightclubs are gone now. What other places besides Obsessions are in existence in Nogales? I would appreciate a list of the current places from someone that is up to date on the Nogales scene.

[AmanteDeLatina]

I have now created a new and improved Nogales map. The old one was in a serious state of disrepair. It had many of the places in the wrong area because some people that are not part of this board was going in there and screwing it up moving everything around. I have now moved it over to a new Google maps site in which no one but me or someone I designate as a corroborater can change it. Hopefully this way we can keep the map accurate without idiots moving everything around. KC Questor from the Mexicali thread has done some work on it as a collaborater too now. I have as best as I could by researching on the internet and reading through this forum cleaned up Nogales removing the places that are out of business and adding unlisted places. I have added every place that I know of to it. If any of you want to help make the map just send me your e-mail and I will add you as a corroborater so you can make changes, add places and whatnot. If you do know of a place that I am unaware of that is not on the map please let me know so I can add it. I have not been to Nogales in over 10 years so I am not up on the place. I only have internet research and this forum to go by. I am not a fan of Nogales to be honest but since it is a place that has activity I did include it as some people do like it and I respect that. You can see my thoughts on the place if you read the review for the Obsession club on the map. LOL. The map is at the address below:

http://goo.gl/maps/zJAh7

I have now completed Tijuana, Mexicali, Nogales, Los Algodones and Agua Prieta. I have even included an extra club in Cabo San Lucas that someone told me about although this map is for the border towns of Northwest Mexico. It is sort of an added bonus. I am in the process of adding Tecate, San Luis Rio Colorado, Sonoyta and Naco. I have not been to any of those towns so I am still researching them to find the places. If you know of places in those towns please let me know. I suggest using this map from your smartphone that has GPS on it so you can use it as you walk around these places. If you do not have a smartphone, you can print them out. I hope you all enjoy.

[Lord Of Sex]

Well today I went to Nogales to meet a girl for a real date but din't get no pussy she is plain hard to get. So on my way decided to see what obsession was like at 2:30 AM, it was still open but totaly dead nothing even look at. Started to walk back to my car when I guy that goes by "Negro" ask if I was looking for some action, I at this time didn't seam interested but he said he had a couple of good girls. So I just went to check them out, the first was a not my type but a good 7. Then the other girl had to go out but a solid 8. So I told him I wasn't going to wait and he maid a couple call and got my this sweet 19 year old slim hot girl. She was a was no more than 5ft 3in tall, great tight body and a great attitude. The room was

$10 dollars and the girl only charge $60 dollars. The room was pretty good. She had a tight as heal pussy she let me kiss her and suck on her tits that were like B size. I fuck her and I

Could fell her tight pussy even with the condom. Fuck her hard and in multiple position. The bad thing was that I didn't bring extra condoms or she would have let me fuck her as many

Times as I had wanted. Her name is Lorena, she is in the hotel right next to Obsession. She is been in Nogales for like 4 months.

[The Hammer1169]

Well today I went to Nogales to meet a girl for a real date but din't get no pussy she is plain hard to get. So on my way decided to see what obsession was like at 2:30 AM, it was still open but totaly dead nothing even look at. Started to walk back to my car when I guy that goes by "Negro" ask if I was looking for some action, I at this time didn't seam interested but he said he had a couple of good girls. So I just went to check them out, the first was a not my type but a good 7. Then the other girl had to go out but a solid 8. So I told him I wasn't going to wait and he maid a couple call and got my this sweet 19 year old slim hot girl. She was a was no more than 5ft 3in tall, great tight body and a great attitude. The room was

$10 dollars and the girl only charge $60 dollars. The room was pretty good. She had a tight as heal pussy she let me kiss her and suck on her tits that were like B size. I fuck her and I

Could fell her tight pussy even with the condom. Fuck her hard and in multiple position. The bad thing was that I didn't bring extra condoms or she would have let me fuck her as many

Times as I had wanted. Her name is Lorena, she is in the hotel right next to Obsession. She is been in Nogales for like 4 months.I know you are telling it straight because I saw her. I was down there a few months ago and that dude you are mentioning approached me and offered her and another girls up for $60. 00. The other girl was taller; not my type, but the little, petite girl caught my eye.

[Ikkyu Sojun]

He was out front of obsessions, I said whos Carlos he said me, I said I heard about you, he said yea I put an ad on BP. For nogales girls, he said let me show you my I'd it said carlos he was Mexican short shaved head starting to grow back

It that's your boy stick with him just letting people know theres a cool dude I deal with.I worked with Carlos once at Obs. The girl I ended up with was 1. 25 and wild. Msog, GFE everything. She was not there for the money. When I went back he was gone and everyone pretended they never heard of him or her. Glad hes back cause the rest of ty he spent the night trying to rip my head off and steal my life savings.

[Ikkyu Sojun]

Ok, looking for quality, no hassle action in Nogales. I welcome suggestions. The closer to the US the better.

[Stripper Luv]

Boleiros is closing at the end of the year.

[Quick Love]

So nobody has any updates from Nogales? I'm curious how things are going down there its been about 2years since last I've been down there.

[Ikkyu Sojun]

A week ago a gal named Christine posted on one of the escort sites. She claimed to arrange semi pro provider apartments and took some herself. Anybody have any Intel?

[QuagMyre]

A week ago a gal named Christine posted on one of the escort sites. She claimed to arrange semi pro provider apartments and took some herself. Anybody have any Intel?You got a link? I'll TOFTT if it checks out. Long time lurker, but this prospect intrigued me. I go down there every few months. I typically hit Salon Regis which is a congal bar.

[Broncobilly2]

Boleiros is closing at the end of the year.Still open and fun.

[Broncobilly2]

So nobody has any updates from Nogales? I'm curious how things are going down there its been about 2years since last I've been down there.I go down 4 or five time a year (well maybe 8 or 10) and the place is still alive.

[Noreaster]

Anyone interested in checking out the scene in Nogales?

I am on vacation from back east and figure it is a bit safer with a wingman or 2.

I am in Tucson area until Sunday on vacation, been to Nogales but only as a tourist but it looks like fun is to be had. Afternoon works too.

Hit a strip club have a drink, see what the deal is and tell a few tales.

I am guessing its a might bit different than Toronto for sure.

Hit me with a message if you might be in.

Also any advice or intel anyone can offer to improve the visit is equally appreciate.

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Hey Noreaster,

When will you be coming down to Nogales? I sure can use a guys night out. Its been some time since I been but still now how to take care of myself down there.

[Noreaster]

Hey Noreaster,

When will you be coming down to Nogales? I sure can use a guys night out. Its been some time since I been but still now how to take care of myself down there.Heading down tonight round 10 if your up for it. I guess I need to open a subscription to do PM.

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[Lord Of Sex]

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[Lord Of Sex]

Had to go to Nogales to drop something real quick and decides to look around real quick. Try to find Osiris Massage and the sing was gone. Then decided to check Salon Regis, it was pretty much empty. I talk to the bartender and he told me that it is a pretty chill place but in the weekend it get pretty pack. So will try to check it in the weekend. Then on my way back I found this massage place in the hole in the wall. Its by the Taxis its real small. When in and there were 3 girls between 6 and 8. I chose the 8. She is Tanya she is pretty good looking. She told me the place its the new Osiris. The place is real small, I only saw to beds. They are not even beds, they are some sort of fome things. You can barely fit. Its $30 Dls for 40 minutes way to much. But Tanya was real nice. She gave a nice massage she was not a stack up, a good talker, got into the massage. She only been working about two days. She told me I was her first client. She was a sweet tight body, small boobs, but nice. For $70 Dls she gives full cover service. Nice CBJ and she has a sweet tight pussy. My mistake was waiting till the end only had about 15 minutes. But I did get her number. Will try to get some pic of her next time.

[XDealerX]

Looking to check out Nogales for the first time. Live in Phoenix and would like to tag along with someone who has been before to learn the ropes.

If anyone is planning a trip soon and wouldn't mind someone tagging along let me know.

[ClamSlammer]

Looking to check out Nogales for the first time. Live in Phoenix and would like to tag along with someone who has been before to learn the ropes.

If anyone is planning a trip soon and wouldn't mind someone tagging along let me know.I'm in Phx too and wouldn't mind taking a short trip. I'm a Tijuana heavyweight but getting bored. Would like to check out new locales.

[Lord Of Sex]

Just want to see if any one know of any clean hotels in Nogales that are clean and cheap.

[Quick Love]

Ok, I just got into nogales last night (Friday) , it's been maybe a year since I've been here. I've been going to tijuana for the last 7 months pretty often but I found myself in Arizona so I wanted to visit the town again to see how everything was.

* booked a room at the hotel fray Marcos. Basic room $55 a night.

* went to the pharmacy bought 2 boxes of cialis (4 in each box) at $20 a box.

* went to obsessions $5 entrance w / free drink around 9 pm, pretty slow, maybe 10 customers, quite a few girls maybe 15, not a lot of lookers, they ranged from 3-6 in looks maybe there were 2 that were 8's.

* then went to boleros $5 entrance fee w / free drink, also pretty slow was there around 10 pm, about 8 girls. 2 were kind of hot Maybe 8 in looks, the rest were under 6 in looks. Was pretty boring.

* then I went to 69 club, I always liked the set up here, but also it was pretty slow. Free entrance but the beers cost $4 and girl drinks are $12 , a few more hot chicks here, but not many. Lapdances were $21 for 5 min, and I got VIP with a girl I think her name was Alexis hot blonde nice body been working there a year. They charge way to much considering how slow they are. They were asking for $180 for an hour. And I asked the girl can I go twice she said no it's just for one bang, so I talked her down to $160 and I was pretty buzzed so I went for it, so we went up to VIP, after a little fun about 25 min later we were done, I said what about the hour she really didn't say much just her look told me what else is there to do here. Oh well,

Today is now Saturday so I intend to have some more fun, I walked by that hotel near obsessions with a bunch of girls hanging out, I haven't used that service I may try that today, plus I haven't been to the massage parlors in a while may try that also. More to come.

[Bbond]

I talked her down to $160.I went back and read some of your other posts. Damn it's guys like you that keep them asking stupid prices. I mean $160 for a short time Mexicana ho, come on, there is no girl in Mexico worth $160 for a short time, period. The most I have ever paid, short time, was 600 pesos, but the girl was a known good time, and worth it, since then I have done much better for 400 pesos, for an hour.

[Quick Love]

I went back and read some of your other posts. Damn it's guys like you that keep them asking stupid prices. I mean $160 for a short time Mexicana ho, come on, there is no girl in Mexico worth $160 for a short time, period. The most I have ever paid, short time, was 600 pesos, but the girl was a known good time, and worth it, since then I have done much better for 400 pesos, for an hour.Bbond,

If you truly read some of my other posts you'd see I've been a frequent visitor to Tijuana. It's probably been like 2 years if not more since I've been to nogales, other then this most recent visit, and these prices your quoting you didn't say where you got the girl from, I got a street girl for $60 for the hour, Nogales is cool, but nothing beats Tijuana. I love Tijuana, and in Nogales I only got one club girl it was a mistake I was drunk, I know the value of these girls and I know I over paid but they were very persuasive. So I got 3 girls numbers so if I go back I can call them off the houses dime.

[Racsan]

Just want to see if any one know of any clean hotels in Nogales that are clean and cheap.Frey Marcos, Hotel Regis.

[Bbond]

Bbond,

If you truly read some of my other posts you'd see I've been a frequent visitor to Tijuana. It's probably been like 2 years if not more since I've been to nogales, other then this most recent visit, and these prices your quoting you didn't say where you got the girl from, I got a street girl for $60 for the hour, Nogales is cool, but nothing beats Tijuana. I love Tijuana, and in Nogales I only got one club girl it was a mistake I was drunk, I know the value of these girls and I know I over paid but they were very persuasive. So I got 3 girls numbers so if I go back I can call them off the houses dime.I can relate to that. But please be careful. I see, almost daily, guys overpaying, it upsets me, because they just ruin it for everyone else. A $20 ho now thinks she can get $120, and there are people that pay that. Thankfully most realize they have a fish and want to reel him in for all they can, but know their true worth to ordinary people.

I mean I cringe when a guy tell me her screwed her for whatever, and I get her for 1/4 or less than that. I know a couple girls that when I first met them they asked $70, they will go for 300 pesos when you get to know who they are. I know one guy that pays girls $200, I get same girl for 400-500 pesos, and have an outstanding time.

[Lord Of Sex]

Frey Marcos, Hotel Regis.And about how much is it per room?

[Racsan]

And about how much is it per room?Fray Marcos is very nice upscale, good food, I'm guessing $60-70, they do not cater to the streetwalkers but it is clean and safe, Regis is right in the middle of the action, but not bad and is cheaper. There is a really cheap hotel on that block that caters to the girls but I can't remember the name, pretty spooky looking.

[BustAss]

I had a quick visit to Nogi in September. I used a shuttle service from Phoenix and had no issues except for a long travel time due to multiple stops for drop offs and pick ups.

Can't be beat for 25 $ flat each way. Grabbed a beer or two at every bathroom stop and slammed it once outside. This was the first time for me and I was not used to the shuttle service but had no issues other than long trip times. I might be one of the drop off / pick ups next time but I am sure that's an extra cost for door to door. The guy at the office even told me and drew me a map on the dry erase board as to where to go for what I wanted. No club names where given but walk in go to left cross railroad tracks turn left ect. Did exactly that and.

Was quickly greeted by an amigo, he was tired "sleepy" I think, who was more than willing to show me the ropes and translate for me for some pesos. I lost the tired help and quickly.

Was pick up by some more help (forgot name) I speak little to no Spanish.

This is the strip where club 69 resides. It seems like most buildings were empty and in bad shape but at least two were in remodel and club 69 is to move into one of them when.

Finished. There was a bar at the end of the street if you want a few 2 $ beers first. I do not know why the club 69 was moving as it is very nice. It was about 11 am and I was the first.

Customer of the day and they were kind of surprised to see me. None of the girls where ready yet and no music playing. They got the whole show going just for me. People were.

Coming in and out but all were workers or friends. About 5 girls total went on stage for two songs each one topless. I liked one and got some regular dances with her for 20 $. I made.

Sure to tip all at least a buck or two. I was offered the "first customer of the day" special rate of 120 $(Reg. 180 $) for an hour. (LOL or so I thought) even after talking about high price.

They didn't budge. I got 2 more beers 5 $"first customer special again" and figured that would change. They have a cheap elevator and rooms upstairs. They kept pestering me to get the room but I said that 80 $ sounded more like it. I did really like the one girl and two others were not bad but I was allowed to walk without them coming down on price. I walked back by the massage placed I passed on the way in, looked at the girls, and had my amigo take me to another club instead. (Mr. Tired was outside and showed me the girls inside) my amigo escorted me most of the way to club obsession. He would not go all the way down the street. I guess they have a area or something and he pointed me to the place. I passed a hotel on the way and a girl was hanging out by the door and was smiling at me. I walk in the door of the club (cover fee) and was seated by the shill / door greeter. A bucket of 5 beers was 20 $ and there was about 10 girls working. One who I passed coming in was hot (9.5-10) and smiled and said high as I walked in. I was inundated by other girls but wanted that one. It took some time but the shill finally brought her over. I think it might be the age as to why she was shy. The guy tells me she is 20 and new and is a 200 $ girl but I could have for 110 $ I opted for a 20 $ Reg. Dance to see how shy she was. She was ok but told me she was only 18 when I asked her in Spanish (almost the extent of my Spanish). So a 18 year old smoking hot.

Rock hard body (hers not mine) romp in the room was to ensue. There was a 5 $ condom fee and shill asked for 10 $ tip. Left town shortly after. When I walked back by the hotel there was two girls trying to get me to get a room with them. I was spent so no go. When crossing back across the border (alone) I was questioned as to the reason for my visit by border authority. I was honest and told them I went for beers and strip clubs. I was pulled aside and asked to empty my pockets. (I think they thought I was bringing in medicine as my I phone with otter case and keys looked bulky) he Looked at what I dumped on table and I was told to go ahead without pat down or shoes off. I was wearing shorts and tee shirt. I only felt unsafe when one of the lady shop owners who was trying to get me in her store kept whispering to me to "be careful". I kept my head on a swivel after that. I will be back and would be more than willing to drive down or pay for gas or beers / rooms if anyone wants a buddy to go mongering with. That person driving back would be best case for me as I like to drink when.

Mongering. Maybe a night in us Nogi side or even in MX if you know of a safe place. I have reliable transportation and willing to use shuttles as well. Anybody wanting a buddy system deal hit me up and maybe we could work out a weekend. I am also willing to try Los Algodones and rocky point as well. Would need to meet in town and get to know first.

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[ItsXJustXJizz]

Going to Nogales tonight, if anyone going to be out there tonight PM me.

[ItsXJustXJizz]

Ok. Well I took my first trip to Nogales, and I must say, I'm disappointed to say the least. I went to obsessions and there was one girl there that I loved, her name was Yamilet (might be spelling it wrong). She was a good 8-8.5, great body beautiful face and skin smooth as silk. After negotiating with her for over an HR she wouldn't budge off of the $145.00 usd and I started off with the standard offer of 600 p, she was adamant on $145, I countered with 800, even though I still felt that was over paying but I wanted her. Since it was a Sunday night and the club was empty accept me, when I walked in there was no one dancing and most of the girls where sleeping on the benches, so I tell her look I'm the only option you got. You can take the 800 p or I can go back to my room and jack off with 800 p in my pocket. I was hoping me getting up and walking out would get her to acknowledge I'm not the stupid gringo that comes in and pays that $145, and she would take the 800 p. But no, so I leave and I was talking to the mesero, he says he can get me some good looking girls for 500-600 p, I take a walk with him and he shows me a couple of spots but the sw where asking for 1000 p (which is fucking nuts! I finally come across a girl who her name escapes my drunken mind at the moment, she took 600 p, and again I still feel like I've overpaid (the pics posted are her) she was about 6. 5 body wise but her face was a 7-7,5, a good fuck but her stretch marks where obvious. I was bummed thank you ma'amed her then I was going to go back to the border as I'm walking back past obsessions, the mesero comes up to me and in English asked me why I left. And in brutal honesty I told him for what you charge for P4P I could go to Tijuana or Laredo (shit even the strip clubs in El Paso tx I can fuck for 200) and hit 2 chicks that are badder than anything you got in here. So he tells me you should have talked to me (mind you when I first seen this guy show up to the club I didn't think he was a mesero, I thought he was a narco with an attitude.) he continues to tell me if you want that chick ill give her to you for 1000 p. At this point I wanted to fuck her so bad I said ok. He tells me don't worry your first beer is on me, and we go and talk to the chica she still is pushing $145 even when the boss ok'd it for 1000 p then she tells me I know you fucked another chick down the street and told me she didn't even want to vamos arriba. For someone that a Tijuana veteran and now been to Laredo enough times to know chicas on a personal level, I couldn't see myself going to Nogales again, even though I love the ease of getting in and out, its just to expensive for P4P, for the same amount of money I spent tonight I could have had 4 beautiful chicas in Tijuana or Laredo. Shit, I could have even fucked a stripper in Canada for what they're asking, you can't be ok with a 3rd world country trying to charge what they are charging. As mongers we have to stand up for ourselves and if that means you can't fuck the chick you want, go home and jack off like you would normally do, if we start saying no to these ridiculous fees they'll come down or go out of business. But I think that's wishful thinking. So as for now if I'm going to monger in mx it will be Tijuana or Laredo.

P.S. Sorry if there's any typos because I'm pretty drunk right now. Word for the wise *jizzzzz*.

[ClamSlammer]

If any AZ members are interested in an experienced wing for trips to Nogales, Mexicali or Algodones PM me.

[Stripper Luv]

I've been told that Boleiros is closed (or about to be closed) and Club 69 will be moving into the Boleiros location after some remodeling. The Club 69 location will be turned into a dance club. This info comes from my wife who works at Obsessions.

[BustAss]

Clam I am interested. I only have a couple of post here. I have had a few more on the USA board. Are you on there? I have gotten no responses for Rocky Point so I will just report my findings when I get back. Why is that a city that is overlooked on here. I might find that out for myself soon.

[ClamSlammer]

Clam I am interested. I only have a couple of post here. I have had a few more on the USA board. Are you on there? I have gotten no responses for Rocky Point so I will just report my findings when I get back. Why is that a city that is overlooked on here. I might find that out for myself soon.Sounds good but you are going to have to upgrade your membership so you can PM as posting of contact info such as emails is prohibited here.

[BustAss]

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[Racsan]

I've been told that Boleiros is closed (or about to be closed) and Club 69 will be moving into the Boleiros location after some remodeling. The Club 69 location will be turned into a dance club. This info comes from my wife who works at Obsessions.So is Obsessions the only place open now?

[Stripper Luv]

Obsessions is open. Club 69 is closed and has now moved into the Bolerios facility and they are open as well.

[Racsan]

Obsessions is open. Club 69 is closed and has now moved into the Bolerios facility and they are open as well.That's good to know, may stray across the tracks and check 69 out.

[MH 2112]

I see that no one has posted here in about 5 months, but hoping that someone will find their way here and respond.

I am planning a trip to Nogales, this time overnight. I have been once (I frequent Tijuana and Mexicai, but Nogales is significantly closer), about a year ago. My first experience was good, found a club on the other side of the tracks, second street back. Nioe young lady good experience.

I have a few questions.

1. is Ed's Parking & Storage a good place, or what other should I pick?

2. there does not seem to be a good spot to exchange $ for peso, any thoughts?

3. what might be the best club, those within walking distance from the border crossing?

4. what hotel would be recommended, I am used to, and will only accept nice (but not extravagant)? The establishment would have to be girl friendly. A post on another site from a couple of years ago indicated that this could be problematic.

5. before I picked the club, I took a taxi to La Conga figuring that would be a good afternoon option, however, it was closed. Does anyone know if it is still in operation, if so, hours, etc. ?

6. would any of the hotel doormen help hook me up?

There are probably other questions that would come up, but this is a good start, for me, and for anyone else considering a similar trip.

[Racsan]

I see that no one has posted here in about 5 months, but hoping that someone will find their way here and respond.

I am planning a trip to Nogales, this time overnight. I have been once (I frequent Tijuana and Mexicai, but Nogales is significantly closer), about a year ago. My first experience was good, found a club on the other side of the tracks, second street back. Nioe young lady good experience.

I have a few questions.

1. is Ed's Parking & Storage a good place, or what other should I pick?

2. there does not seem to be a good spot to exchange $ for peso, any thoughts?

3. what might be the best club, those within walking distance from the border crossing?

4. what hotel would be recommended, I am used to, and will only accept nice (but not extravagant)? The establishment would have to be girl friendly. A post on another site from a couple of years ago indicated that this could be problematic.

5. before I picked the club, I took a taxi to La Conga figuring that would be a good afternoon option, however, it was closed. Does anyone know if it is still in operation, if so, hours, etc. ?

6. would any of the hotel doormen help hook me up?

There are probably other questions that would come up, but this is a good start, for me, and for anyone else considering a similar trip.Need to be able to PM you. I just park at McDonalds, going down in a couple weeks to see what has changed, not sure if I am spending the night, kind of a scouting trip. LOL.

[Baqueta]

I see that no one has posted here in about 5 months, but hoping that someone will find their way here and respond.

I am planning a trip to Nogales, this time overnight. I have been once (I frequent Tijuana and Mexicai, but Nogales is significantly closer), about a year ago. My first experience was good, found a club on the other side of the tracks, second street back. Nioe young lady good experience.

I have a few questions.

1. is Ed's Parking & Storage a good place, or what other should I pick?

2. there does not seem to be a good spot to exchange $ for peso, any thoughts?

3. what might be the best club, those within walking distance from the border crossing?

4. what hotel would be recommended, I am used to, and will only accept nice (but not extravagant)? The establishment would have to be girl friendly. A post on another site from a couple of years ago indicated that this could be problematic.

5. before I picked the club, I took a taxi to La Conga figuring that would be a good afternoon option, however, it was closed. Does anyone know if it is still in operation, if so, hours, etc. ?

6. would any of the hotel doormen help hook me up?

There are probably other questions that would come up, but this is a good start, for me, and for anyone else considering a similar trip.1. Parking at Ueta or Border Lot parking, (big lot fenced in to the right as you come off the freeway) are also good.

2. After crossing the border and going through the check point keep walking past the taxi hustlers and there are several cambios there. They are pretty much the same rates.

3. I don't usually go to the clubs except for a quick look, So I don't really know.

4. I usually stay a t the Regis Hotel --right next to the Regis bar- upstairs $40.00. Clean, can be a little noisy from the bar. Or Fray Marcos $69.00.

5. La Conga is long gone as with all the old "Canal Street" establishments.

6. I don't know if the hotel doormen would help you out, plenty of touts everywhere offering.

I'm thinking of heading down the 23rd for a night.

[MH 2112]

I am going to make a day trip to either Los Algodones or Nogales this Saturday, the 13th. Both places are essentially the same distance from my house. According to the forecast, both places are to be in sunny and in the mod 90's so I will choose based on interest in joining me or on Saturday morning when I read the highway.

If anyone is interested in meeting up, swapping stories ADN joining in on a muff hunt let me know and I will PM you with some contact information.

[MH 2112]

Had a great time in Nogales yesterday. Planning on going back the 20th or 27th. Maybe both. Did Obsessions, spent time with a great young lady named Brenda. A bit of belly baby fat, but very pretty and enthusiastic, money well spent.

Tried to find a place called Fantasy Massage next to the Olivia Hotel, one block south of the Fray Marcos. They have advertisements on Phoenix back page, but no luck. Olivia Hotel is easy enough but nothing marked.

Ended up with Jenny at Eros Massage, right across the tracks.

Very nice day.

M

[Will99]

Had a great time in Nogales yesterday. Planning on going back the 20th or 27th. Maybe both. Did Obsessions, spent time with a great young lady named Brenda. A bit of belly baby fat, but very pretty and enthusiastic, money well spent.

Tried to find a place called Fantasy Massage next to the Olivia Hotel, one block south of the Fray Marcos. They have advertisements on Phoenix back page, but no luck. Olivia Hotel is easy enough but nothing marked.

Ended up with Jenny at Eros Massage, right across the tracks.

Very nice day.

MWent to Nogales recently myself. It wasn't to bad. I end up at Eros as well. They had about 6 girls with range from 6-9. I would have place one at 10 once I got a better look. But I don't know if I would go back to Nogales. Because you need a little more Spanish than I have.

[MH 2112]

Went to Nogales recently myself. It wasn't to bad. I end up at Eros as well. They had about 6 girls with range from 6-9. I would have place one at 10 once I got a better look. But I don't know if I would go back to Nogales. Because you need a little more Spanish than I have.Both girls and the hawker at Obsession spoke English reasonably well. I speak no Spanish, so I rely on the natives to understand me. Next time I will try different places, if nothing else, to taste the variety.

[Amigo69]

Headed across the border about 4:00. First time in Nogales. Obsessions is very easy to find. Entered and ordered a beer and Tequila. Chica dancing on stage and 4 others in bar. Average looks about a 6.5. A cute little Morena named Mayeti (spelling) from LOS Mochis came over and we chatted for about three or four minutes. Waiter came over and wanted to know if I wanted to buy Mayeti a drink. 150 pesos. A little steep but OK. She then started stroking the little man. Put my hand inside her panties for some FIV. She then started some French. This continued for about 10 minutes and the waiter came over and asked if I want a private room. I asked how much. He stated $100 for an hour. I replied I only have $85. He looked at her and she nodded OK to him. Went to the room. Small bed but OK. She played some more with the little man rubbing him all over her body. Then Covered BJ for about 4 minutes. Then went to some nice slow miss for about 5 minutes. Time for some cerveza. Then some cow girl. Wow can she ride. She really likes it. Tiny little girl about 5 foot. What a ride. About 5 or 6 minutes of this and time for more cerveza. Then time for Greek. After 5 minutes of this pounding time for some more cerveza. Then finished with miss. Overall I would rate her looks as a 7.5. Dark morena, 5 foot, 95 pounds, and very friendly. If you like a chica that is flaca and likes to ride she is the one.

[Amigo69]

Back across the border again to Obsessions. I am not big on seeing the same chica all the time but Maydi sorta tripped my trigger the first time. This time was the same but haggling to get the price down was hard. I guess because it was Saturday evening. Drank two beers which was 25 minutes and decided to leave. On my way out the Masero asked if I still wanted Maydi. I said yes but only $85. He said OK. This time they took me to a room which had two couches and a table. There was a large glass window in front of the room with draw curtains. Same action with Maydi as before. But this time finished with pearl necklace. Asked Maydi if I saw her again if photos were OK. She said no problem. My question is what is the law in Mexico if I have porn photos of her and me on a camera.

Take care,

Amigo 69

[BigTwins]

1. Parking at Ueta or Border Lot parking, (big lot fenced in to the right as you come off the freeway) are also good.

2. After crossing the border and going through the check point keep walking past the taxi hustlers and there are several cambios there. They are pretty much the same rates.

3. I don't usually go to the clubs except for a quick look, So I don't really know.

4. I usually stay a t the Regis Hotel --right next to the Regis bar- upstairs $40.00. Clean, can be a little noisy from the bar. Or Fray Marcos $69.00.

5. La Conga is long gone as with all the old "Canal Street" establishments.

6. I don't know if the hotel doormen would help you out, plenty of touts everywhere offering.

I'm thinking of heading down the 23rd for a night.I'm heading down this weekend and am looking for chica friendly hotel just in case I find a girl I like. Looking for WiFi, ac, around $50 a night.

Thanks all.

[Amigo69]

Went to Obsessions last night looking for Maydi. Had two cervezas. Then a little spinner went on stage that for some unknown reason caught my eye. Her name is Alejandra. Not a real looker but she was a flaca. This always catches my eye. Tipped her 50 pesos. Had another cerveza. I was wondering where she went as I thought she would come over for a drink and chat. Finally she did come over and we hit it off very good. She is from Nogales. She is a 6 on looks but has a sweet innocent smile. I would say she is probably 19 to 20 years old. It sure helps to be 75% fluent in Spanish. We chatted for about an hour and I bought her 3 drinks. She really had nice table dances and let my hands wander after we laughed and got to know each other. She stated it was better to get a motel rather than a room in the bar. I asked how much for 3 hours and she stated $120. She stated to meet her in front of Fry Marcos at 3:00. I went there at five minutes until 3:00 and waited until 20 minutes after 3:00. I was ready to leave and then a taxi pulled up with her and another dancer in it. She got out and we walked over to my truck and away we went. I asked her where a good motel was She guided me through some back roads which were very poor. I was thinking I did not like this but then we pulled up to a hotel which you paid for the hour or per night. Can not remember the name. For 3 hours it was 250 pesos. Not a real nice place but not the worst I have seen. This little girl who probably weighs 90 pounds was probably a 7 in the rack but I think she is inexperienced. Two pops and after 3 hours the good ole knock at the door. We left and she guided me to a small home and she gave me her digits. She really likes me and we did hit it off. The name of the main road to get to her home is Technologica. I can not remember the name of the off street now but do remember how to get there. Overall sweet little muchacha and love her smile and she will get better in the rack. It really pays off to be fairly fluent in Spanish. 8 years ago I would have never been able to do this due to not being able to communicate. You mongers who do not know Spanish I recommend you learn it. It is not that hard. Just learning the basic words is not sufficient if you want to rave a real cool relationship and super fun times with the women.

Take care,

Amigo69

[Amigo69]

Well decided to return to Obsessions yesterday. About 4:30 entered and had a beer. They brought over a hottie with very nice body. Can not remember her name as it was a very long name and different. Anyhow chatted and as I was about to finish my cerveza the mesero returned and asked if I wanted to buy her a drink. I said yes. She had two shot glasses with Tequila. No sooner had the masero brought the drinks to the table she starts real GFE. Unbuttons 3 buttons on my shirt and starts rubbing my chest while she DFK's and breaths and and licks my ears. When a song starts she gives a great table dance while I massage her nice 36 see. Allowed my hands to roam. Then without a song playing she unzips the pantalones and nice HJ. Drank the rest of my cerveza. Took awhile though. Then the mesero returned asked if I wanted a room, I thought hell no I am enjoying this too much right here. So I bought her another drink and myself another cerveza. More of the same until I could not wait any longer. The mesero came over and stated $100. I am sure he knows me by now and knows I will hold tight at $90 so when I stated $90 he said OK. Took me to a room that had a wooden bed. No mattress. Threw down a very cheap pad with a sheet over it. The room also had a table and bathroom. Anyhow she begins with a very good BBBJ. I would rate it was a 9. Then performed some 69. Very sweet and shaved. Then onto a finish with reverse cowgirl. We chatted for awhile and she finished her tequila and I finished my cerveza. Then went to round 2. Mostly mish and doggie. Overall I would rate her performance as a 9 and her face a 7. Her body overall I would rate a 8.5. Her chi chis are so awesome. Nice 36 C. She is about 5 ft 7 inches and 135 pounds. She stated she has been working at Obsessions for 7 months and is from Culiacan. Stated she is 33 years old and has 3 children. Does not look 33 and has a very nice body for that age. Anyhow I just love Nogales. Being able to speak 75% fluent really helps.

Take care,

Amigo69