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CenTexCrash
10-19-19, 17:16
MTY-South America via Houston: "You need a tourist permit for this flight" (they told me to go downstairs and get one for 550 p).
South America-MEX via Houston: permit included in price and issued in cabin on arrival.
TLC-MTY: (I had the permit with me) "here's your boarding card, no questions asked" (maybe they looked in my passport for arrival stamp idk)(I still have that permit to date).
MTY-TIJ rt: ________________
MTY-GDL rt: _________________
Most of the girls will give you very good and certainly much better than USA or Canada bought sex, 70% oral natural, they generally have an am & pm shift, change is around 7 pm, so go morn and night to see all the girls! The most will be at night, they close at 4 am!Hey all,
Not just ElBonero.
So is BBBJs and BBFS available commonly in Mexico? I'm mostly looking at the border towns and northern cities. I've been to NL and some were OK with BBJ at an extra cost at la zona de tolerencia, and the independents I got were more acceptable of it, but I didn't get BBFS and didn't ask.
I do have regular STD tests and am about to start taking PREP before I do something like this again.
I'm mostly looking for BBFS anal with some hotties, even if it's not Mexico.
Thanks for any info!
Had her Friday, remains at nice extend remain in norcross. She's thick with a little gut however a decent ass. Payed 40 and got BBBJ and cs for 30 min. I at that point gave her 20 more for greek plate of mixed greens. Head is genuine acceptable and enthusiastic. Puss and ass can take a beating! She is sweet so be pleasant to her and make some great memories. Goodness no doubt I CIM and she licked everything up!!
Buddy and I are going to. Cancun and isle Mujeres in a week. Any options for escorts to come to my hotel? Everything I've seen is 200 plus. Any other options cheaper out there? I'm used to 100 in the states. Any info would be helpful.
Escortreal
03-29-20, 17:06
Hello gentlemen,
Brisk inquiry? I'm in Dallas hoping to make an excursion to Mexico right on time one year from now. Zone norte appears the best decision. Modest, copious alternatives, and no dramatization. Be that as it may, it's a 24 hour drive from where I'm at. Is there a closer choice than zona norte or am I must suck it up and make the drive?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexicos-prostitutes-end-homeless-coronavirus-134421543.html
Mexico's prostitutes end up homeless as coronavirus keeps clients at home, shuts hotels.
By Anthony Esposito.
ReutersApril 9, 2020,8:44 AM GMT-5.
By Anthony Esposito.
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Hungry, scared and tired, scores of sex workers in Mexico City have been forced to live on the streets as fear of contracting the coronavirus keeps clients away and the government shuttered the hotels where many of them lived and worked.
Now they sleep under makeshift tents and on sidewalks, relying on social workers and handouts for what little they have been able to eat, and on each other to fend off attackers and criminals.
"They literally put us out on the streets. We've been on the street for a week; before we lived in the hotels," said Marina Rojano, who has been a sex worker for 24 years.
Another woman, Jazmin Carrillo, said she was jolted awake on the sidewalk earlier this week when two men tried to forcibly remove her pants.
"I defended myself as best I could, I screamed for the others to help," said Carrillo.
The government estimates there are around 7,000 prostitutes in Mexico City.
In an effort to contain the spread of the coronavirus, which has infected 3,181 people and killed 174 in Mexico so far, city authorities deemed hotels non-essential and ordered them shut.
"We spoke to the hotels about not removing the sex workers living there. But they shouldn't be working because we're in the middle of an international health crisis," a spokesman for the Mexico City government said.
But hotels in the working-class Tabacalera neighborhood had signs saying "no service due to official orders," and removed sex workers, forcing them to set up tarps and line the sidewalks, according to a Reuters witness and dozens of interviews with prostitutes.
The city government said it was setting up shelters for them and is handing out "COVID-19 emergency support" cards with 1,000 pesos. Around $42 - for food and medicine.
"Nobody can live off 1,000 pesos," said Rojano.
Still, sex workers said any help was welcome and on Wednesday hundreds lined up for a card.
Some have decided to stop working, but for others, hunger and the need to support a family mean that is not an option even if they lack the means to protect themselves from the coronavirus.
"If they don't even have enough money to eat, how are they going to pay for a face mask, antibacterial gel, gloves? They don't even have money for coffee, or food," said Kenya Cuevas, who runs Casa de las Muñecas, a shelter for transsexual sex workers.
I believe the smaller hole in wall hotels are still open in Tijuana. I was in Tijuana about 2 weeks ago and they were still open. There was only about 15-20 girls still around. I believe that a lot of girls have gone south to stay with their families. Kayla had told me that things were slow since most of their business is from US citizens. The article also said there was a estimated 7000 hookers in Tijuana. This seems like a pretty outlandish figure. I would think that there would be a lot more posts about Mexico city if there was any where near that many girls working. Tijuana is widely acknowledged as have more working girls than any place in Mexico. I would be surprised if some of the girls were homeless.. Most of them survive from day to day or a week.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexicos-prostitutes-end-homeless-coronavirus-134421543.html
Mexico's prostitutes end up homeless as coronavirus keeps clients at home, shuts hotels.
By Anthony Esposito.
ReutersApril 9, 2020,8:44 AM GMT-5.
By Anthony Esposito.
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Hungry, scared and tired, scores of sex workers in Mexico City have been forced to live on the streets as fear of contracting the coronavirus keeps clients away and the government shuttered the hotels where many of them lived and worked.
Now they sleep under makeshift tents and on sidewalks, relying on social workers and handouts for what little they have been able to eat, and on each other to fend off attackers and criminals.
"They literally put us out on the streets. We've been on the street for a week; before we lived in the hotels," said Marina Rojano, who has been a sex worker for 24 years.
Another woman, Jazmin Carrillo, said she was jolted awake on the sidewalk earlier this week when two men tried to forcibly remove her pants.
"I defended myself as best I could, I screamed for the others to help," said Carrillo.
The government estimates there are around 7,000 prostitutes in Mexico City.
In an effort to contain the spread of the coronavirus, which has infected 3,181 people and killed 174 in Mexico so far, city authorities deemed hotels non-essential and ordered them shut.
"We spoke to the hotels about not removing the sex workers living there. But they shouldn't be working because we're in the middle of an international health crisis," a spokesman for the Mexico City government said.
But hotels in the working-class Tabacalera neighborhood had signs saying "no service due to official orders," and removed sex workers, forcing them to set up tarps and line the sidewalks, according to a Reuters witness and dozens of interviews with prostitutes.
The city government said it was setting up shelters for them and is handing out "COVID-19 emergency support" cards with 1,000 pesos. Around $42 - for food and medicine.
"Nobody can live off 1,000 pesos," said Rojano.
Still, sex workers said any help was welcome and on Wednesday hundreds lined up for a card.
Some have decided to stop working, but for others, hunger and the need to support a family mean that is not an option even if they lack the means to protect themselves from the coronavirus.
"If they don't even have enough money to eat, how are they going to pay for a face mask, antibacterial gel, gloves? They don't even have money for coffee, or food," said Kenya Cuevas, who runs Casa de las Muecas, a shelter for transsexual sex workers.
CenTexCrash
05-06-20, 16:51
Do any ISG users have any current firdt hand April / May 2020 Mexico border / interior travel / lodging xp? Current situation of walking across in border towns, to main cities?
Thinking of walking across from Texas, taking a bus to MTY and catch a flight to CDMX. And find hotels in CDMX accepting guests. Probably in two weeks from now. Want to know how possible all that is given situation?
Do any ISG users have any current firdt hand April / May 2020 Mexico border / interior travel / lodging xp? Current situation of walking across in border towns, to main cities?
Thinking of walking across from Texas, taking a bus to MTY and catch a flight to CDMX. And find hotels in CDMX accepting guests. Probably in two weeks from now. Want to know how possible all that is given situation?Reports coming out of Tijuana suggests CBP is cracking down by reducing lanes and more questioning upon return. Most places are closed and 50% of the population aren't practicing social distancing.
My advice is if you don't NEED to go into Mexico now for emergency reasons DON'T. I think you can universally say that it what is called common sense.
You may also want to check border news websites like www.elimparcial.com.
CenTexCrash
05-06-20, 19:41
My advice is if you don't NEED to go into Mexico now for emergency reasons DON'T. I think you can universally say that it what is called common sense.Can I just look them in the eye and tell them the NEED to get my duck wet inside a latina should be marked as essential travel?
Juan Carter
07-30-20, 02:25
The "1" before Mexican mobile numbers has been superfluous for about a year. Now T-Mobile advises me to clean up my contacts or I won't be able to connect after August 2. I don't know if other carriers will continue to auto-correct but I am cleaning up my contacts and it kills me to delete the disconnected number for Zayra Rich that hasn't worked for over a year. I sent her a Hail Mary message anyway but everyone tells me she is retired.
JohnReter335
08-19-20, 01:01
The "1" before Mexican mobile numbers has been superfluous for about a year. Now T-Mobile advises me to clean up my contacts or I won't be able to connect after August 2. I don't know if other carriers will continue to auto-correct but I am cleaning up my contacts and it kills me to delete the disconnected number for Zayra Rich that hasn't worked for over a year. I sent her a Hail Mary message anyway but everyone tells me she is retired.I don't think she can retired, she loves her job.
SonicBoom1
08-23-20, 20:29
Does anyone know how I could send someone a gift card in mexico from US, without disclosing my name or credit card number of course? What about phone recharges.
Does anyone know how I could send someone a gift card in mexico from US, without disclosing my name or credit card number of course? What about phone recharges.Amazon operates in some parts of Mexico. Have you thought about an Amazon gift card?
Does anyone know how I could send someone a gift card in mexico from US, without disclosing my name or credit card number of course? What about phone recharges.Maybe you can order a Walmart gift card to be picked up in Mexico?
SonicBoom1
08-24-20, 03:07
Maybe you can order a Walmart gift card to be picked up in Mexico?
Amazon operates in some parts of Mexico. Have you thought about an Amazon gift card?Thank you both, but won't that require me to buy the gift card online using my american credit card, thus exposing my identity?
Thank you both, but won't that require me to buy the gift card online using my american credit card, thus exposing my identity?Amazon would obviously know but I doubt the receiver of the gift card would. Why would they when the only thing that concerns them is the value of their gift card and what is available to spend?
You can always call Amazon Customer Service to confirm.
Renaldogill
12-06-20, 23:23
Does anyone know how I could send someone a gift card in mexico from US, without disclosing my name or credit card number of course? What about phone recharges.Its not possible I think.
Does anyone know how I could send someone a gift card in mexico from US, without disclosing my name or credit card number of course? What about phone recharges.Can't help with gift cards. But phone recharges are very simple, I use topup.com, (mobilerecharge). All you need to know is the carrier, telcel, movistar, etc, it's very simple to do. Recipient has no idea who sent the saldo.
Can't help with gift cards. But phone recharges are very simple, I use topup.com, (mobilerecharge). All you need to know is the carrier, telcel, movistar, etc, it's very simple to do. Recipient has no idea who sent the saldo.I also use Xoom when I am in the USA to fill up my Mexico phone. Xoom is a Payal company.
Renaldogill
12-09-20, 20:22
I am new in Bangalore. Seniors help me. In Cali spa who ans all provide FS and is it affordable. Multiple times asked review about mallu girl. But couldn't find any proper report. I don't have subscription.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/quarter-mexicos-population-exposed-covid-150425119.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/quarter-mexicos-population-exposed-covid-150425119.htmlPerfect. That means they are on their way to herd immunity.
John Clayton
01-18-21, 08:10
I'm still thinking about a motorcycle trip to Mexico in March. Probably SF to Tijuana, Caborca, Hermosillo, LOS Mochis, Mazatlan, then down the coast to see a friend in Michoacan. Those roads in Sonora, particularly Hwy 2 from Tijuana, look so frigging boring, and my bike is loafing at 100 mph. I know well enough to creep through the towns, but what's the likelihood of getting ticketed out there in the middle of nowhere?
Adam Miller
02-27-21, 06:02
Speeding fines are in place to protect all road users and disputing them is a task that shouldn't be undertaken if you think you may have broken the limit. Always obey traffic laws and never exceed the speed limit.
CenTexCrash
03-14-21, 23:37
What's a good time frame from first contact on SA to invite a civilian from CDMX / GDL / MTY to a weekend beach getaway?
By Steve Sailer.
"Despite Mexico's problems, it does not suffer, objectively, from Tragic Dirt. It's not Mali, it's one of the nicer pieces of landscape on earth due to much of it being at enough altitude to mitigate its tropical latitude. But Mexicans don't seem all that intent on maximizing the potential of their homeland through civic-minded improvements.
I have a vague theory that Mexicans fear that gringos would overwhelm their country if it weren't so craptastic. Mexican mediocrity is a price Mexicans are willing to pay to keep tens of millions of Americans from retiring to Mexico. In 1967, I visited with my parents the Lake Chapala colony of American retirees (where Fred Reed lives). So the idea of retiring to Mexico has been around for a long time.
. . Here's an article by an aging American surfer girl who semi-retired to Mazatlan in Mexico in 2006. She lives on $1200 per month.
She doesn't mention crime, which exploded in Mexico in 2007 when the PAN government declared war on the cartels. Mazatlan, which seemed pretty safe when I was there in 1982, is in Sinaloa, which has been bad news for the last 14 years. But the article is otherwise informative. From CNBC. . . But there are challenges. 1. The weather can get really hot and humid. 2. Unbelievably high noise levels. If you've been to Mexico, you know that noise levels are often through the roof. Speaking of roofs, in many towns, "watchdogs" are kept there, and they bark all the time — at nothing or at everything. In many parts of Mexico, people keep dogs on their roofs as a kind of early warning system. . . I can remember walking through a residential neighborhood in Acapulco late at night in 1979 and one dog started barking and you could hear the dogs barking spread block by block until you could hear dogs over a radius of about a mile barking.
And then there are the parties, for birthdays, quinceneras, religious and other holidays. Often these events include rented speakers as big as refrigerators set up in the street in front of their (and your) house. You might find your street blocked by a bounce house or funeral memorial for a day. Or three.
. . . Open-air taxis, called pulmonias, have gigantic sound systems with speakers that blast music as they make their way through the neighborhoods. While ostensibly there are city sound ordinances, they're rarely, if ever, enforced. What to bring to Mexico? High quality ear plugs. . .
Piles of trash: Trash pick-up is one example. In most Mexican towns, garbage is simply piled on certain street corners in whatever plastic bags or boxes one has handy. No one "oversees" the process, and it's often a sticky, stinky mess. Why don't they use garbage cans? Don't ask. . . ".
Full article: https://www.unz.com/isteve/is-mexican-mediocrity-a-defense-against-a-mass-influx-of-gri/.
VasyaPetya
09-11-21, 09:00
I'm still thinking about a motorcycle trip to Mexico in March. Probably SF to Tijuana, Caborca, Hermosillo, LOS Mochis, Mazatlan, then down the coast to see a friend in Michoacan. Those roads in Sonora, particularly Hwy 2 from Tijuana, look so frigging boring, and my bike is loafing at 100 mph. I know well enough to creep through the towns, but what's the likelihood of getting ticketed out there in the middle of nowhere?Have you taken that trip? How did it go?
Appalachian
10-17-21, 16:02
Is it possible for me to fly to Mexico then take a bus up to the border to cross back?
Flights have gotten expensive because of the pilot shortage.
VasyaPetya
10-18-21, 04:46
Is it possible for me to fly to Mexico then take a bus up to the border to cross back?
Flights have gotten expensive because of the pilot shortage.Everything's possible depending on where you're going.
RamDavidson84
10-18-21, 05:10
Is it possible for me to fly to Mexico then take a bus up to the border to cross back?
Flights have gotten expensive because of the pilot shortage.Yes, just don't lose your immigration ticket they give you when you fly in. Otherwise you will spend an hour in the immigration office filling out paperwork and spend 50 $ or so to get back in.
Just a heads up to those that are looking for some good deals. From Nov 10th thru Nov 16th is "Buen Fin" week as businesses give special discounts to customers. Now if you don't live in Mexico this doesn't matter but for those that fly you can get some really good deals on flights. For example Volaris has discounts on flights from now thru March 2023.
Appalachian
11-17-21, 04:25
Just a quick summary for everyone. I flew in and was given a six month pass for tourism.
I wound up busing to the border and walking across on foot. It was easy. They just needed my passport and that tourism pass.
In unrelated question. Has anyone else encountered an issue with girls having body odor? I didn't have this problem until recently. 3 in a row seemed to smell of sweat. Bad reek. One had a busy day apparently which was gross. All around it had some issues with her hygiene. Another was freshly showered at 10 am. I was the first of the day. After 40 minutes in bed she got very sweaty and kind of reeked.
John Clayton
05-17-22, 20:20
It seems to me that "esteticas masculinas" (which are essentially brothels with different levels of price, luxury and girls) exist only in Guadalajara. Does something like that exist in other cities, particularly DF, but just with a different generic name? Search on Google with "spa", "masaje" gives mixed results. Looking for the magic search term.
LovesToSploog
05-17-22, 22:08
They exist in Monterrey too LOL.
It seems to me that "esteticas masculinas" (which are essentially brothels with different levels of price, luxury and girls) exist only in Guadalajara. Does something like that exist in other cities, particularly DF, but just with a different generic name? Search on Google with "spa", "masaje" gives mixed results. Looking for the magic search term.
LovesToSploog
05-17-22, 23:06
In Mexico City, they are more clandestine and harder to find since the rules are a bit more strict. They don't even have many strip joints and the ones they do will rip you off. I did some research once in Mexico city for esteticas but it was very few that I would trust.
They exist in Monterrey too LOL.
In Mexico City, they are more clandestine and harder to find since the rules are a bit more strict. They don't even have many strip joints and the ones they do will rip you off. I did some research once in Mexico city for esteticas but it was very few that I would trust.Any such places in Puerto Vallarta?
There are massage spas.
LovesToSploog
05-18-22, 08:19
I'm sure there is but I haven't gone there but you can expect things to be overpriced. One strategy is to talk to the taxi drivers or Uber drivers but then again that's a bit risky or overpriced.
Any such places in Puerto Vallarta?
There are massage spas.
John Clayton
05-18-22, 16:05
In Mexico City, they are more clandestine and harder to find since the rules are a bit more strict. They don't even have many strip joints and the ones they do will rip you off. I did some research once in Mexico city for esteticas but it was very few that I would trust.I know they exist elsewhere, just wondering: 1) why they are so ubiquitous and open in GDL, and 2) why the term "Estetica masculina" only exists there? Do you suppose there's some civic / legal reason behind it?
LovesToSploog
05-18-22, 20:10
You're overthining it, it's a different region of Mexico so somethings are the same just different wording like tomate rojo in the north of Mexico vs jitomate in Centro Mxico.
However, legally speaking, Guadalajara has more liberal laws than other parts of Mexico, also Monterrey.
I know they exist elsewhere, just wondering: 1) why they are so ubiquitous and open in GDL, and 2) why the term "Estetica masculina" only exists there? Do you suppose there's some civic / legal reason behind it?
John Clayton
05-19-22, 05:47
You're overthining it, it's a different region of Mexico so somethings are the same just different wording like tomate rojo i....Not overthinking it, just looking for the "different wording" -- maybe estetica masculina is called tomate rojo in DF?
LovesToSploog
05-19-22, 17:41
As I mentioned in the initial response when you asked, they are clandestine places in Mexico City. If you can find this "different wording" on Google maps so can law enforcement which means they get cracked down. Not all of Mexico has the same laws, but the only thing that comes to mind as a brothel are sex shops like intezzo but can't guarantee good quality. Maybe try Mileroticos and then see if they give you addresses and see if there are any google reviews. There are ways but it's not as easy as GDL or MTY where it's obvious.
Not overthinking it, just looking for the "different wording" -- maybe estetica masculina is called tomate rojo in DF?
Don Roberts
10-12-22, 15:57
Hi,
I'm in Playa del Carmen for some dental work. I usually don't visit Mexico- but I will have to come back 2 more times for 7-10 days each time-.
What's a good chat site for Mexico? Like Pina Love or Date in Asia (in the Philippines).
Or is Tinder or Badoo or some other app best?
I been traveling a Lot (too much!) to the Cebu, Philippines for the last 23 years.
John Clayton
01-12-23, 21:14
Is there a general Seeking Arrangement thread that I'm somehow not seeing on the main page?
DonMedellin
02-09-23, 19:52
I've seen a lot in CDMX, but I think the concentration is higher in Guadalajara. You will see a 10 out of 50 women as 10 out of 100 in cdmx. Other cities?
Any of you guys tried Mexican Cupid? Is it worthwhile?
Mexico vs Argentina for longer stays? I am getting a bit tired of shorter Colombian girls. Anyone been to BA recently? The forum isn't very live there.
Looking for quality and less quantity, and less danger, better value.
Thanks.
Mexico vs Argentina for longer stays? I am getting a bit tired of shorter Colombian girls. Anyone been to BA recently? The forum isn't very live there.
Looking for quality and less quantity, and less danger, better value.
Thanks.BAires is DOA, read my post history in that forum from 2014 for testimony (for some reason that forum is on a diff server, my usr nm is "shawman" on that one). With that being said, its been 9 years since last I went and I'm getting a bit nostalgic. But even everyone there said the place basically died in 2010. From what I can tell the golden age to be there was from about '98-'08.
But yeah, the women are probably going to be waaay hotter in mexico by dint of availability alone LOL! If you just want a place you can live in relative luxury extremely cheap, then yes, go to Argentina. Its not without its charms that's for sure (food is absolutely exquisite, better sushi than Japan). But in order to take that place in good cheer, you will need a soul for art, a wit for philosophy, and be a hopeless romantic at heart.
But it is NOT less dangerous. In fact its one of the most dangerous places I've ever been. Nobody messed with me, but I'm not going to send anybody out there to take their chances. Also, nobody picks up after their dogs and street sweepers only work Friday night, so you'll be playing the longest game of hopscotch you ever thought possible just to walk around haha!
Mexico vs Argentina for longer stays? I am getting a bit tired of shorter Colombian girls. Anyone been to BA recently? The forum isn't very live there.
Looking for quality and less quantity, and less danger, better value.
Thanks.For what you're looking for, Argentina might be better. It's just much easier to get Mexican girls. Mexico is also better value as well. If you speak spanish, have some charisma, I think Argentina is better for longer stays based on what you want.
Any of you guys tried Mexican Cupid? Is it worthwhile?There are a bunch cupid sites. Seem to be a lot of fake profiles with how many notifications you get.
Expats in Mexico are some of the happiest in the world, according to a new report from Internations, the global community for people who live and work abroad.
Mexico ranks No. 1 as the top destination for expats, with 90% of people saying they're happy with their lives abroad in the country, compared to 72% globally.
The "Expat Insider" report ranks 53 destinations based on five indices: quality of life, ease of settling in, working abroad, personal finance and an "expat essentials" index, which covers housing, administration, language and digital life.
Expats living in Mexico rate it highly for how easy it is to settle in there, as well as the friendliness of locals and ease of building your own community.
Expats in Mexico are some of the happiest in the world, according to a new report from Internations, the global community for people who live and work abroad.
Mexico ranks No. 1 as the top destination for expats, with 90% of people saying they're happy with their lives abroad in the country, compared to 72% globally.
The "Expat Insider" report ranks 53 destinations based on five indices: quality of life, ease of settling in, working abroad, personal finance and an "expat essentials" index, which covers housing, administration, language and digital life.
Expats living in Mexico rate it highly for how easy it is to settle in there, as well as the friendliness of locals and ease of building your own community.I would put the culture of Latina America / Mexico (probably excluding Argentina) as the most attractive aspect of living there. Warm friendly people.
For what you're looking for, Argentina might be better. It's just much easier to get Mexican girls. Mexico is also better value as well. If you speak spanish, have some charisma, I think Argentina is better for longer stays based on what you want.Seems you know about Argentina. I think of them European wannabe's rather than Latin American. Hence I never thought of Argentina as a mongering destination. What do you think?
They just dropped their invitation of BRICS membership opting to stay with their European affiliation.
I've seen a lot in CDMX, but I think the concentration is higher in Guadalajara. You will see a 10 out of 50 women as 10 out of 100 in cdmx. Other cities?Puerto Vallarta? I was there twice. I love bronze colored women. I still have memories of my concierge woman in the resort I stayed. I never made a pass at her, to this day I cringe about it.
CenTexCrash
02-02-24, 22:44
Land entry 7 day permit?
Last time went to Mexico was July 2023.
Went in January 2024 via Reynosa.
Went to main Reynosa FMM office 2 hours before bus ride asking for the usual permit slip card to fill out.
Officer pointed me to a QR code said no more printed slips, going forward fill it out online and print at home before you come to Mexico.
While he said this, there was an entire stack of fresh permit slips are feet to his right, so I'm resisting urge to call bullshit.
Also told me there's a pharmacy down the street that has printing services, so when I'm done filling out permit info online and emailed PDF to myself, go to them get a printout and come back to FMM office so they could stamp printed copy.
I filled it online.
I had language barrier finding which pharmacy.
I went into Mexico bare. No one asked questions. Not even the bus route interior checkpoint south of Reynosa where all passengers get off for screening.
Going to Monterrey tomorrow, will find out if online-only policy is accurate or Reynosa staff was just lazy.
CenTexCrash
02-03-24, 05:00
Follow up to the Reynosa debacle:
Just entered Nuevo Laredo. Went to the CITEV building to get the usual FMM permit. They confirmed Reynosa was correct, online only and print when done.
At least if you're a white gringo. For those who are Hispanic looking and claim to not have cellular signal, they'll give those people a blank permit card to fill out.
Unlike Reynosa, Nuevo's office has a print center. I went over there to print a single paper, and they quoted me 120 MXN /$8. 50 USD.
I laid down the law and told him I assumed $1 or $1.25 but his asking price of $8+ he could kick rocks. Walked back to the FMM room and fudged "their printer is having technical difficulties or something" No one else in the room, the lone agent just typed name off my passport, printed it for $0. 00 and I was good to go.
Moral: Just print at home / work before leaving for a border run.
Also: long term permit back in day 2019 was 530 mxn ($25 usd) is now 717 mxn ($41 friggin USD wtf).
And what gives them ability to single out who prints permit details and who gets to write a paper copy. I guess it speeds up wait times but still.
CenTexCrash
03-23-24, 18:31
Been overthinking this scenario last 1-2 weeks. But I'm still receiving mixed intel on flying out of Mexico so still not 100% sure.
Re: FMM Permit for Mexico's Interior States / Flying out of Mexico, Gringos now instructed to print at home vs Caravan Central Americans still given the normal cardstock FMM.
I think I know what's going on. I think. The FMM for land entry 7 days is $0 USD. The permit for longer stays / fly out of Mexico internationally to USA / South America is (recently went from $25 to now $43 USD).
The Mex Govt is cracking down on gringos like Centexcrash. Gringos like Centexcrash found a fun adventurous loophole to get a free 7 day FMM permit at Laredo / Reynosa / Nogales / maybe Tijuana then turn around within 36 hours use that same permit to board a flight out of MTY / MEX / CUN where the airport gate crews don't screen each FMM presented. If 100-5000 gringos / day pull that same trick that's money $ the Migracion Dept is missing out on.
Because of that potential exploit, the border entry FMM offices have rolled out a new protocol: gringos that get access to the FMM cardstock are a potential flight risk. Day laborer Mexicans / Central Americans don't pose that same flight risk and likely don't have internet access so they are happily given a blank FMM cardstock to fill out. Gringos with short term stays do NOT get the pre-printed cardstock and are now instructed to fill out their FMM details online and print out the PDF results at home / local library and have that printout with them when they arrive at the FMM office.
Again this is all hypothetical and I am probably talking out of my ass. I currently only have first hand xp at the land entry side, I don't have sufficient xp of me or other board members on how the airport side is presently playing out.
AmorPorFavor
03-23-24, 19:39
The Mex Govt is cracking down on gringos like Centexcrash. Gringos like Centexcrash found a fun adventurous loophole to get a free 7 day FMM permit at Laredo / Reynosa / Nogales / maybe Tijuana then turn around within 36 hours use that same permit to board a flight out of MTY / MEX / CUN where the airport gate crews don't screen each FMM presented. If 100-5000 gringos / day pull that same trick that's money $ the Migracion Dept is missing out on.
Question: I have been flying out of Tijuana to Medellin with a layover in Mexico City, then on the way back flying home into San Diego airport. The first 5 times I needed an FFM but did not have to pay. Last January when I handed my printed at home FFM to the customs agent in Tijuana airport she said I had to pay the 717 pesos just to do the flight with the layover in MX for 1 hour. She said it was a new policy that started in Nov 2023. Did I get scammed the last time or was I supposed to pay the first 5 times but somehow got away with it, or is this just a new policy? Also is there anyway around paying like saying you are staying in Mexico City for 6 days only? The costs are starting to add up especially when you add in the CBX charge.
Question: I have been flying out of Tijuana to Medellin with a layover in Mexico City, then on the way back flying home into San Diego airport. The first 5 times I needed an FFM but did not have to pay. Last January when I handed my printed at home FFM to the customs agent in Tijuana airport she said I had to pay the 717 pesos just to do the flight with the layover in MX for 1 hour. She said it was a new policy that started in Nov 2023. Did I get scammed the last time or was I supposed to pay the first 5 times but somehow got away with it, or is this just a new policy? Also is there anyway around paying like saying you are staying in Mexico City for 6 days only? The costs are starting to add up especially when you add in the CBX charge.With the large increase in immigrants flying into Mexico with the final destination the US border the Mexican government has been trying to come up with ways to deter this. So unfortunately your getting caught in the middle of this and now have to pay just for a layover.
https://travelobiz.com/mexico-imposes-new-visitor-visa-requirement-for-airport-transits/
This didn't really help the problem much and now Mexico has a long list of countries that you aren't allowed into Mexico anymore without the Visa. This began in January of this year.
Been overthinking this scenario last 1-2 weeks. But I'm still receiving mixed intel on flying out of Mexico so still not 100% sure.
Re: FMM Permit for Mexico's Interior States / Flying out of Mexico, Gringos now instructed to print at home vs Caravan Central Americans still given the normal cardstock FMM.
I think I know what's going on. I think. The FMM for land entry 7 days is $0 USD. The permit for longer stays / fly out of Mexico internationally to USA / South America is (recently went from $25 to now $43 USD).
The Mex Govt is cracking down on gringos like Centexcrash. Gringos like Centexcrash found a fun adventurous loophole to get a free 7 day FMM permit at Laredo / Reynosa / Nogales / maybe Tijuana then turn around within 36 hours use that same permit to board a flight out of MTY / MEX / CUN where the airport gate crews don't screen each FMM presented. If 100-5000 gringos / day pull that same trick that's money $ the Migracion Dept is missing out on.
Because of that potential exploit, the border entry FMM offices have rolled out a new protocol: gringos that get access to the FMM cardstock are a potential flight risk. Day laborer Mexicans / Central Americans don't pose that same flight risk and likely don't have internet access so they are happily given a blank FMM cardstock to fill out. Gringos with short term stays do NOT get the pre-printed cardstock and are now instructed to fill out their FMM details online and print out the PDF results at home / local library and have that printout with them when they arrive at the FMM office.
Again this is all hypothetical and I am probably talking out of my ass. I currently only have first hand xp at the land entry side, I don't have sufficient xp of me or other board members on how the airport side is presently playing out.Some of us have been talking about the FFM and how Mexico doesn't seem to be enforcing it at all. The only thing is that myself I only fly out of Tijuana and during COVID visited a few different cities and was never asked to show a FFM and I haven't filled one out in years. Last year I actually went online and filled one out and printed it at work before my flight but I never showed it to anyone to have it stamped or signed I just figured to have it to see if someone said something I could pull it out.
I know TomJackin who travels within Mexico from Tijuana almost every month prints his out and since he doesn't go for long trips he doesn't pay I think he just shows the INE officer when he comes across the CBX but I've never used CBX so not sure if they are strict.
Others that chimed in on the discussion fly from the US into Mexico and use to have to fill out an FFM but no longer are asked but I think the fee is included in the airfare but I'm not sure. From this website it seems that they are trying to make it all digital now so not to waste time with the paperwork. I remember during COVID they had a health questionnaire that you had to fill out before they would let you go to the security screening but it was a mess at first because some airports didn't have the papers all the time or the biggest issue was no pens or pencils to fill them out with so if somebody had a pen that person would end up sharing it with about 20 other people. Shortly after they had a QR code the you could use to just do it all on your phone.
This website is pretty good for current information but since it's Mexico even when they have certain rules it all depends on the people in charge. INE had lots of problems with officers taking bribes or making people pay fees.
https://www.mexperience.com/your-mexican-tourist-permit-fmm/
AmorPorFavor
03-24-24, 04:26
With the large increase in immigrants flying into Mexico with the final destination the US border the Mexican government has been trying to come up with ways to deter this. So unfortunately your getting caught in the middle of this and now have to pay just for a layover.
https://travelobiz.com/mexico-imposes-new-visitor-visa-requirement-for-airport-transits/
This didn't really help the problem much and now Mexico has a long list of countries that you aren't allowed into Mexico anymore without the Visa. This began in January of this year.I'm still unclear on this. The article says: "The regulation, which takes effect on October 22,2023, dictates that all foreign nationals who typically need a visa and intend to transit through Mexico's airports must now possess a visitor visa, specifically for non-paid activities such as tourism, regardless of the duration of their airport layover. " But as an American I don't need a visa to travel to Mexico, in fact I do it almost every week to Tijuana.
I'm still unclear on this. The article says: "The regulation, which takes effect on October 22,2023, dictates that all foreign nationals who typically need a visa and intend to transit through Mexico's airports must now possess a visitor visa, specifically for non-paid activities such as tourism, regardless of the duration of their airport layover. " But as an American I don't need a visa to travel to Mexico, in fact I do it almost every week to Tijuana.Well I think for those that know how Mexico works they either are overly strict with rules and using them to take advantage of people or they don't pay any attention to the rules. I was just trying to help you with what had changed with the law.
If you take this flight again soon you might want to go on the Mexican immigration site to read more on this and save it to your phone to show the agent if it states that the fee is only for foreigners who require a Visa.
Did you notice any other passengers paying the fee?
SonicBoom1
03-28-24, 05:00
MXP reaching 16.7/ dollar is such a shity news for most people visiting Mexico. A date that cost US $100 now costs US $150. Like WTF. Not returning there until the rate moves back to nrmal 18-20 levels.
AmorPorFavor
03-30-24, 23:59
Well I think for those that know how Mexico works they either are overly strict with rules and using them to take advantage of people or they don't pay any attention to the rules. I was just trying to help you with what had changed with the law.
If you take this flight again soon you might want to go on the Mexican immigration site to read more on this and save it to your phone to show the agent if it states that the fee is only for foreigners who require a Visa.
Did you notice any other passengers paying the fee?I looked around and couldn't get and answer. Then I emailed CBX asked them and got this back: Yes, the charge was correct. The payment of the DNR (Migratory Rights) is made to all foreigners who travel to Mexico for more than 6 days or travel in transit through Mexico to get to another country. So now flying out of Tijuana to another country costs the CBX fee of $40- $50 round trip, depending on time of year, plus like $43 for an FFM.
I looked around and couldn't get and answer. Then I emailed CBX asked them and got this back: Yes, the charge was correct. The payment of the DNR (Migratory Rights) is made to all foreigners who travel to Mexico for more than 6 days or travel in transit through Mexico to get to another country. So now flying out of Tijuana to another country costs the CBX fee of $40- $50 round trip, depending on time of year, plus like $43 for an FFM.Well hopefully you don't make the tip that often that it's really a burden.
The only way you might be able to avoid it is by not using CBX. I have never used it when flying out / in to Tijuana and haven't paid FFM for years. So I wonder if you didn't go thru CBX if they would still force you to pay? Since you're flying to Colombia I don't know what you are asked for when you arrive at the layover in CDMX or if they ask to see your FFM when you fly back.
AmorPorFavor
04-02-24, 00:48
Well hopefully you don't make the tip that often that it's really a burden.
The only way you might be able to avoid it is by not using CBX. I have never used it when flying out / in to Tijuana and haven't paid FFM for years. So I wonder if you didn't go thru CBX if they would still force you to pay? Since you're flying to Colombia I don't know what you are asked for when you arrive at the layover in CDMX or if they ask to see your FFM when you fly back.For short trips within Mexico I drive in and park at $12/ day, don't go through customs and don't need an FFM but for my 4-5 Colombia trips a year I go for 12-14 days so parking costs a lot. If I didn't use CBX on the way out I would not go through customs and would not need an FFM but I probably would need one on the way back when flying into CDMX from Colombia. I have always flown back into San Diego airport but this next trip I am going to try the red eye home and into TIJ. I'm probably just stuck paying the rip off $43.
For short trips within Mexico I drive in and park at $12/ day, don't go through customs and don't need an FFM but for my 4-5 Colombia trips a year I go for 12-14 days so parking costs a lot. If I didn't use CBX on the way out I would not go through customs and would not need an FFM but I probably would need one on the way back when flying into CDMX from Colombia. I have always flown back into San Diego airport but this next trip I am going to try the red eye home and into TIJ. I'm probably just stuck paying the rip off $43.I use to park at the Tijuana airport but during COVID it would get full so I just started to park at one of the lots at the border which now is only $6 per day. It's cheaper and easy to just get a Uber to and from. Only downside is if you don't have Sentri but if you come back late at night the Ready Lane line isn't long at all.
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