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Prokofiev
05-27-02, 21:57
Hi,
Does anyone have any recommendations on how to meet Mexican women for dating? I travel to Mexico 3-4 times a year and would like to correspond and meet with Mexicanas in the 30-45 y/o range. Most of the escorts, dancers, discos and estetica workers are 18-25 (although certainly not all...) and I want to date older women. Does anyone have experience with personal ads, dating web-sites or other means of contacting women here from the US before I arrive in a city? I speak reasonable Spanish and I'm not just looking to get laid. I want to set up dates for dinner or a movie and meet the locals. I travel to Morelia, Guadalajara, Puebla and Mexico City. Any leads or ideas would be appreciated! Also where is a good place to meet women once in Mexico? Most discos and clubs are for a younger set. Any ideas on where to pick-up older women in any of the above cities?

Thanks, -P

Cherubino
05-28-02, 00:22
Prokofiev

How to meet Mexican women in the 30-45 y/o range for dating? If you find a good answer to that one I hope you will let ME know. I lived in Mexico back in the 80s and have been going back regularly ever since and so am somewhat familiar with the territory yet the answer to your question continues to elude me too.

It seems to me that there is a much more powerful social dynamic in Mexican society against women staying single and in that 30+ age group there do really seem to be fewer of them there than in the US.

As to how to meet them before you go, I have had some small success with dub dub dub americansingles dot com. I set up some dates in Monterrey, DF and Queretero which were well worth the effort though nothing long-term has come of it yet. The Mexican singles sites seem to have a short half-life, but the best one this year seems to be dub dub dub yupi dot com which seems to be a Microsoft outlet.

On the ground, many towns and cities in Mexico have an English language school, public library or University which hosts a public conversation hour. English speakers are much in demand and these gatherings can be good places to meet the locals.

Next I have found the best place to be in the retail establishments and malls. The Liverpool department store in Queretero and the one in Leon are both first rate. Forget Wall-Mart. If I can keep a conversation with a señorita going more than 60 seconds that is a good sign. I then will just come right out and ask her where are the places the nice girls like to hang out. I tell her the "doorman at the hotel sent me to La Yegua last night…" pause for her to blush and watch whether or not she does…"but that is not what I was looking for". Over the years that line has gotten me a couple of dates with that señorita in a nice restaurant, but I never really did get an answer to the question as to where they hang out.

Overall, Mexico is heaven on earth for Cherubino, my mongering dark side; but has proved to be a much more difficult place to meet nice women.

Prokofiev
05-29-02, 01:40
Cherubino!,

Thanks for all the good ideas and your previous info on La Yegua. I will be there 1st week in August and will report my experiences.
.
I checked out yupi.com and it looks promising. Thanks. I have been told by many others that single women over 30 are VERY rare in Mexico. But there are many divorciadas con hijos- although many of them are quite young as well. It also seems to me that most women I see in the street are either very young, slim and attractive (15-22) or quite old-looking and large. Where are the middle-age women? Or do they age quickly in Mexico - as I've also been told? I'm reasonable good at meeting women once I'm down there, but since I only spend 3-8 days in each city. time is of the essence. By the time I can set-up a date, I'm ready to leave.
.
Keep us informed. - P

Cherubino
05-31-02, 00:24
prokofiev

cherubino also plans to make his next appearance at la yegua around the first week in august, budget permitting. as the date grows closer we should compare itineraries.

it seems a lot of people are saying single women over 30 are very rare in mexico and it might just be true. that is explainable as a cultural thing. in the male-dominated latin society, women do in fact have fewer career options than in the us and so it stands to reason more of them do marry and stay married.

of course it is equally possible that neither you nor i have figured out the best places to go looking for them. let's keep trying.

you noted your perception to be that most women in the street are either very young, slim and attractive or quite old looking and overweight. i do not buy into the argument that women age more quickly in mexico because a mexican clock ticks at the same speed as does ours. the phenomena we are observing here is something i have noted in other races, particularly orientals. it is more likely what we see is not a matter of female physiology but of our caucasian male perception of it.

even if we are reasonably good at meeting women once there, spending only a few days per trip there does present challenges. while sometimes that means that by the time we can set-up a date it is already time to leave; other times the señorita realizes the now-or-never situation and moves at breathtaking speed. the sword cuts two ways.

here is a curious note about using one now-defunct mexican web site. the site was a for-pay singles message board, but i accidentally discovered that when that same pay-site was browsed with a computer using the spanish language version of windows that same site suddenly became free! it was then blatantly obvious they were identifying the language of the internet browser and using that piece of information to soak the gringos. caveat emptor.

Chicago13
05-31-02, 04:01
Cherubino & Prokofiev

I think you will find La Yeguita to your satisfaction. I have been
to La Yeguita a long time ago (about 5-7years ago). My cousin
used to study at el Tec de Monterrey so we used to go on a weekly basis. The women tend to vary depending on what you like but you"ll see a lot of 7-8-9's. Queretaro is growing quite fast
a lot of businesses and people are moving from el D.F so I would think that the quality of women is better now. I met a few of these women on the outside (monday used to be their day off)
I will be in Mexico for a few months and I do plan on visiting
Morelia- Lazaro Cardenas- Puerto Vallarta and Mazatlan. I know
Puerto Vallarta isn't that great but Mazatlan should make up for it.
At a future time I will post my notes on Queretaro- Lazaro Cardenas- Puerto Vallarta and Mazatlan. Also the posting from
Miller2k is pretty much correct. Women in Mexico tend to get
married fairly young so if you find a 30+ women unattached she's
either divorced with kids - a single mom with kids or something is
wrong with her (that's the way we mexicans tend to think- not all
of course).

Cherubino
05-31-02, 06:32
Hi Chicago13

You sound like you might know, is it La Yegua or La Yeguita? We hear it both ways, and of course you know there is no sign on the door for us to check the spelling against.

Chicago13
05-31-02, 13:49
Hi Cherubino

I know it as " La Yeguita " used as a term of endearment.

Zayber
05-31-02, 23:56
Originally posted by Chicago13
Hi Cherubino

I know it as " La Yeguita " used as a term of endearment.

Don't worry about the name, (you don't find it in the yelow pages anyway) yegua it's the translation of "mare" so Yeguita it's like to say "little mare".

AS definition:

yegua:
(nf) (animal) mare;
(And, CSur) old bag;
(puta) W***e.

Just in case you have curiosity....

zayber

Easy Rider
06-01-02, 17:29
year seems to be dub dub dub yupi dot com which seems to be a Microsoft outlet.

What the hell is this churibuno..???

Easy Rider
06-01-02, 17:50
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cherubino
[i]Prokofiev

How to meet Mexican women in the 30-45 y/o range for dating? If you find a good answer to that one I hope you will let ME know.

I too lived in Mexico for six years back in the old days. I can identify with this write up of yours. But after three years in Mexico City, I can tell you that perhaps the world's most ideal woman is the 29 year old divorced Mexican woman. She is humble, dependant, and unlike her American counterpart, not in a postition to bull shit anybody.

I had a black book full of em when I lived in DF. And they were always available on short notice, and up for anything. And none ever asked me for money. We gotta find this type Cherubino, and slack off on all our *****s. But what the hell is dah, dah, dah, dotcom or whatever. The internet dating service idea must be great to find the above ideal Mexican woman. I really think it will work. But what service is it you are describing......

Other than this new age idea, meeting mexican woman is as you describe it, a drag. Same in most of Latin America and Europe by the way. Most big city girls are afraid to get close to a stranger, and the more open minded smaller town girls never go out. But in Mexico City my best hunting ground was the lobby bar of the Camino Real hotel, and other top hotels.....

There I met one very intelligent gauchupine, who became a very good female friend. She was a blue blood from the higher society there, and she used to always invite me to wedding parties. She had one every weekend. I met alot of great ladies at these large social gatherings, and that is where they tend to congregate. And because they were private, the woman were drinking, dancing, and very open to meeting men. Private parties are definitely the way to go in conservative Latin America, or most of Europe for that matter.

Find some social butterfly type at the Soriana Mall, and become buddies with her. Or some buddies sister, if he will trust you, (haha). Then get her to invite you into her social network. Sounds devious and desperate, but that is what happened to me accidentally in Mexico City. She was a good buddy, but we kept it platonic.

BUT REMEMBER. NOTHING HAPPENS QUICKLY IN A CONSERVATIVE COUNTRY. THANK GOD THE WHOLE WORLD ISN'T LIKE THE USA.....

Mill Just
06-02-02, 00:09
exactly, easy....!!! Once you're deemed reliable and an over-all good person, you have it made with regards to women. The hard part is winning them over. It took me almost a year in my small town before I was trusted. Many Mexicans view American men as predators and very "liberal" (with loose morals), so they are reluctant to come close. But once you win them over, there isn't a woman who is more loyal, more affectionate, or kinder than a Mexican woman. I'm almost at the point where I don't have the time or energy for my "hobby".

jstem33
06-07-02, 04:09
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Cherubino
06-08-02, 20:22
Originally posted by easyrider
ever asked me for money. We gotta find this type Cherubino, and slack off on all our *****s. But what the hell is dah, dah, dah, dotcom or whatever. The internet dating service idea must be great to find the above ideal Mexican woman. I really think it will work. But what service is it you are describing......
[/i]

Yo Easy

I had not seen this question of yours so sorry for the tardy response. www.yupi.com is one of many Spanish-language web sites with active personals. I mentioned it only because it seems to be so popular amongst my Mexican friends.

So far I have not had much success meeting Mexicanas online, but I have setup a few dates and so have not given up on it completely.

Easy Rider
06-21-02, 20:52
Hey worldtraveller, saw your post under Nogales. Too bad about what happened to you. Too bad you hate Mexico so much.

But blaming your bad experience on everyone in a country of 100 million is like saying I had a car wreck once, so I'll never drive again.

Maybe your attitude gets you in trouble. I've been whorin around Mexico for 30 years, and never, ever, had a problem. However I always behave like a guest in "their" country, am always respectful, and make a point to show respect.

And I show respect to a *****, or avoid her. But I never give her any shit.....They have too many big friends.

And I never, ever, act macho. That is their deal, and like all virile young macho bullies, they love a challenge. Don't try to proove anything when there. Especially in a ***** house. Just chill out, be polite, and enjoy all their great pussy.

Another tip is to not go to clubs with inadequate security. Here in Matamoros, the good clubs always frisk you when you enter. That is a good sign. And watch the big sholder guys who don't act like waiters. They are the bouncers. If you don't see any, then get the fuck out of there. Two or three big bouncers should always be present. They are paid to be there for two reasons. First to protect the girls from you, (in a good club), and second, to protect you the good customer, from other rowdy customers.

Most all the problems I've seen in mexico, were caused by gringos fighting gringos, or arrogant gringos insulting *****s or waiters. One drunk idiot actually was stupid enough to slap a ***** in a joint in Reynosa last month. What the mexican bouncers did to that big shot wasn't pretty...

But you don't have to let a dishonest waiter rip you off either. If he's short changing you, or whatever, just ask for the gerente, (manager). Don't argue too much over a few bucks. Just explain the problem to the manager, and if he does'nt solve it, get up and leave. Then post it on this board, and we will all boycott the fuckin place. And if someone happens to know the owner, or manager, then chances are that little fuckin waiter is going to be reported, and he will get the kick shitted out of him. (That's how the owners deal with corrupt waiters).

The girls are there to suck your dick and fuck you, for only a few dollars. And most know what's expected of them, and are ready, willing, and able to do their job.

Mexico is not a dangerous country. Just remember your a guest in their country, show a little respect, and enjoy all their beautiful young cheap pussy.

NO PROBLEMA MAN.....

Prokofiev
06-23-02, 04:56
While I'm hardly an expert, I have made numerous trips to Mexico- Guadalajara, Mex City, Morelia, Leon, San Miguel etc. and I've never had a problem with crime. Except for Mexico City, I feel much safer in Mexico than in my own neighborhood. And I have walked the streets during the wee hours in some poorer barrios. Maybe I'm lucky,but attitude is more important. If you go anywhere with an attitude and look for trouble, you are going to find it. Treat the girls right and they will be your protectors and look after you. I speak just enough spanish to get in trouble and the ladies often will come to my rescue in any misunderstanding. Trying to be cool or macho in a foreign environment is looking for trouble. Whether in the US or a foreign country, I always act a little naive and stupid but sweet with the girls. If you try to outsmart them and show how educated you are, you usually trigger a negative vibe. Act a little sweet and helpless and it triggers a "mothering instinct" in most women. They think, "This poor guy , I can't take advantage of him. He can barely take care of himself" and they end up looking after you. It works for me. - P

Dickhead
06-25-02, 03:25
A lot of guys are posting stuff in Spanish. That's "against the rules," or at least it was on the old board. I fwe wanted to follow a bunch of suck ass rules, we probably wouldn't be mongers. But, if guys are gonna post in Spanish, here's how you can put in the accents and symbols. While holding down the Alt key, and using the numeric keypad, enter the indicated number and you will get the indicated symbol. I don't know 'em all but it's a start.

Alt & 160 = á
Alt & 130 = é
Alt & 144 = É
Alt & 161 = í
Alt & 162 = ó
Alt & 163 = ú
Alt & 129 = ü (as in bilingüe)
Alt & 164 = ñ
Alt & 168 = ¿
Alt & 173 = ¡ (the "upside down exclamation point)

Cheers.

Easy Rider
06-25-02, 22:47
Hey guys, go check out firsttymer's experience at Paradise Club, under South Texas Border Towns, Matamoros...

He probably has never been to Mexico in his life, spoke no spanish, wandered around Matamoros by himself, and not only did no one fuck with him, but he was treated very well. In fact he said, There ain't notin like this back in Nebraska. haha...

Go read his post. Its a hoot.....laughed my ass off.

Easy Rider
06-26-02, 03:18
Borderguy wrote: on crossing the border you will be approached by Mexican terrorist operatives who will try to slip you a briefcase size nuclear device to smuggle back into the states. Beware of the taco venders, turn your back and they are likely to slit your throat. Life has no meaning in this country. Be especially careful of the mariachi musicians, inside their guitars they typically conceal razor wire and will decapitate gringos without hesitation.
Good luck


Got me laughing my ass off Borderguy. Yeah everybody, stay the hell out of dangerous Mexico. Leave all that beautiful young pussy to me and borderguy.

DiabloMactavish
06-27-02, 02:33
Originally posted by Dickhead
A lot of guys are posting stuff in Spanish.... But, if guys are gonna post in Spanish, here's how you can put in the accents and symbols.

also with windows,

START

RUN

type

charmap

and then click on
Okay

that is the character map program in windows that shows the key configs for a bunch of "non-standard" characters and alphabets (not just spanish!!)

Dylock
08-05-02, 22:33
I can verify that www.yupimsn.com rules. I write and read Spanish pretty well although my spoken skills are lagging behind. I posted my profile in Spanish with a photo and have gotten literally hundreds of responses in 6-7 weeks. (I paid $30 for 3 months where girls can contact me for free.) Most of the girls are from South America, especially Peru and Colombia, but there are also many Mexican and Dominican girls and a handful in the U.S. If you have almost zero Spanish skills of course your luck will be limited but still possible. I plan on meeting at least one particular girl in Mexico City during my upcoming pre-planned trip to central Mexico.

loveall
08-10-02, 16:29
I want to travel around Mexico for 2 or 3 weeks.
Is there anybody who knows if there are sextravelcompanies
in this country a sort of sextrips?

Renegade
08-11-02, 01:48
Loveall..........Why? Mexico is one big sex trip if you want!All you have to do is read the posts from each city and you will be able to put your own sextrip together.There is hotel, flight, taxi, club, massage parlor and other pertinent info for meeting women in Mexico. In fact that is what I thought the WSG was for.Every business trip I make to Mexico is also a sex trip.Why pay someone when you have this great resource?If you need any info on Guadalajara post an inquiry on that page.Good luck and read on!

Prokofiev
09-12-02, 17:33
Mexican Dating Rules
.
Several weeks ago in Morelia, I had a date with an attractive woman who had shown interest in going out with me. We went (at her suggestion) to a cafe where we ordered drinks and talked. I made slight body contact - by touching her arm while talking to her - which to me was no big deal. I WAS trying to show affection but it was pretty subtle stuff. Well not to her. She threw a fit telling me, "No sabes las reglas? No puedes tocarme ni un poco en la primera cita!". I was surprised by her response and apologized to no avail. It might have been different if she hadn't been chasing me around the school all week and accepted my offer of a date, but considering the circumstances, I was in shock. She explained that she didnt sleep with men she had just met and was upset that I would think of her in that way. Believe me, we were 100 miles away from sex and our conversation was mostly about religion! Turns out she was VERY religious and considered my making any contact as disrespectful. I have cautioned others to go slow in Mexico but I got caught in my own advice. Live and learn . . . -P

I LOVE LATINAS
09-14-02, 14:37
I am wanting to live for a exteneded period in Tampico. How much does a nice apartment or house rent for? Is there alot of tourist now in Tampico(hopefully not) Is it more expensive than other places.Any other suggestions on good places to live , with good weather and not expensive and down to earth women? Also my spanish is okay, I get by with it , But I hear that knowing english and spanish can get you a pretty good job in Mexico especially away from the border.Like in a factory or something. I also hear building a house is cheap. I may want to got this route if it is better in the long run. What kind of business would be a good one to open?Possibly import/export .

Antonio
09-19-02, 18:00
Could use some help in organizing a trip into the interior of Mexico, involving taking my own vehicle.
1) Tips on getting insurance;
2) tips on getting the forms (temporary-importation-of-vehicle form; promise-to-return-vehicle form; tourist card) and where and when;
3) tips on crossing at Del Rio, TX (time of day; possibility of crossing and getting documents after 6pm).
How much of the document work can I do from here in Chicago through the Mexican consulate (their phone is always busy)?
Thanks, dudes

Renegade
09-24-02, 07:14
Mexican Dating Rules 2.....................................................After two enjoyable years of mongering in Mexico I now have a novia of four months in Guadalajara.I did not even kiss her until the fourth date,but by the 6 date we were making love.I think this is very typical of Mexican women.They also are not big on kissing in public or in front of there family or friends.But believe me it is definitely worth the patience and wait,I am one happy gringo.

Prokofiev
09-24-02, 16:38
Renegade,
Thanks for the response. While aware that I should go slow, I also know that since I don't live in Mexico and I usually spend no more than 7-10 days in one city, it's going to be tough to fit 4+ dates in before I leave. And it's not reasonable to expect a gringo to return to see you if you haven't even kissed him! But she was pretty firm in her ideas - and mentioned repeatedly "las reglas" as if there is a book by that title. And neither of us are young "kids". I'm in my 40's and she was 37! But I suspect this only makes things worse. The older you get, the more important rules and respect become . . .
Renegade, are you a student or work in Mexico? How did you end up there? Mexican relatives or Real Gringo? Just wondering.

Peace -P

Renegade
09-25-02, 08:06
Proko....................First I have to tell you that I have been reading your posts along with Miller2K and Cupid in the Morelia section and have respect for all of you guys.We all know the purpose of this board,but you guys all have great attitudes towards Mexico,the people and traditions.Anyone who wants the best info on Mexico should read the posts in the Morelia section.....As for me I work for a US consumer products company that has opened offices in Guadalajara.In your travels throughout Mexico you have probably seen all the new Wal Marts,Costco's,Sam's Clubs,Office Depot,Office Max,etc. These are all customers of my company.I live in the San Francisco area,but now rent a house in Guadalajara.I spend about 50% of my time in each place. I also travel frequently to the DF and throughout Mexico in this sales position. It has given me a great opportunity to learn abot Mexico at someone elses expense.I truly love the people and the country,especially the women.I was born and raised in the midwest,45 and divorced for three years after 22 years of marriage.I first started traveling to Mexico 2-3 times a year 6 years ago,but as busines has grown it has become my full time assignment.Since my divorce I have only dated latina women and only in Mexico,none in the US.I had my crazy period for 2 years after the divorce,Mexico is a great place to do that.A year ago I decided I was ready for a more serious relationship and only started dating amateurs. No problem finding plenty of prospects in Guadalajara.I have been exlusively with a 35 year old tapatia for the last four months,and am very happy so far.If you get to Guadalajara let me know & maybe we can hook up.Stay in touch.By the way Proko do you live in the bay area also,I thought I saw your handle on some SFO posts? Con Cuidate

Prokofiev
09-25-02, 16:01
Renegade,
All very interesting . . . I was thinking you were a 21 yo student - that changes my perspective on things. Thanks. And no, I don't live in the SF area but I visit it often and have been known to frequent Market Street Cinema - although to be honest, that doesn't interest me much any more. Everything is cheaper and more fascinating in Mexico. And in several weeks I'll be going to Barcelona - a spectacular city, where I've rented an apartment. I'm hell-bent to master the spanish language - and meet new latinas in the process. Thanks for the info and good luck. -P

PeterPaul
10-13-02, 00:23
Cheers Nibu!! You are absolutely right. I am sure some of Mexico's best sex destinations involve the south of the country, particularly Oaxaca and Chiapas, that urgently need reviewing! I tried my best in the old forum to review the great streetwalker scenes of Mexico City and Oaxaca, but the 2000-2002 archives seem to be gone, and there is no way to repost them. Lets get back on the streets!

Mose
10-16-02, 22:12
will be traveling south of the border and need to sharpen my spanish language skills. at one time there was a brief english to spanish section on wsg to help us gringos get up to speed. any one know where i can find it. it had about a dozen words etc that helped break the ice and negotiate etc. i used a search on spanish translation topics but came up with nothing worthwhile.

DiabloMactavish
10-17-02, 04:29
Originally posted by mose
It had about a dozen words etc that helped break the ice and negotiate etc.

i am too lazy to look for it, so I will just post one:

first of all there is a general list of phrases for any tourist in a spanish speaking country, with tips on pronunciation and things like numbers, and stuff like "I need a taxi" at this site:

http://www.sanmiguelguide.com/spanish_phrases.htm

(purposely not an active link - I wouldn't want the server logs showing this as the referring site -- no offense to Jackson :) )


okay here we go - sorry if they are out of logical order a bit.
------

you're pretty:
eres bonita

you are very pretty!:
eres muy bonita!

i am an american
soy norte americano

i am canadian
soy canadiense

do you want to go to my hotel?:
quieres ir a mi hotel?

recommend a hotel:
recomendame un hotel

how much for the service?:
cuanto es el servicio ?

puedes quedar toda la noche?:
can you stay all night?

with a condom:
con condón

without a condom:
sin condón

oral sex:
sexo oral

too expensive:
demasiado caro

let's go!
vamonos!

get on top:
subame

doggystyle:
como perrito

i am going to cum!:
voy a venir!

like that!:
así!

can we invite your friend too?
podemos invitar tu amiga tambien?

will you do a lesbian show
vas hacer un show lesbiana?

act lively:
anímate

(use this in negotation if the girl just starts to think about the offer and doesn't respond or just starts singing the lyrics to all the songs playing in the bar - but use this sparingly, and with a smile, because it is not exactly the nicest thing to say to someone)

please
por favor

thank you
gracias

very good (an action):
muy bien

very good (a person):
muy buena

hello gorgeous:
hola guapa

what's your name?
como te llames?

my name is X:
mi nombre es X

do you leave the premises with clients?
haces salidas ?

how can i convince you?
como puedo convencerte?

as if you were my girlfriend:
como si fueras mi novia

how delicious! (responding to an action you like, or food)
que rico!

can i buy you a drink?
puedo invitarte un trago?

_____________________

okay that's enough. If I think of phrases that might be more helpful I will post them.

Mose
10-17-02, 21:47
Thanks for those key words and phrases in spanish. I need one more : asking for anal.

DiabloMactavish
10-17-02, 22:30
Originally posted by mose
Thanks for those key words and phrases in spanish. I need one more : asking for anal.
-- some girls don't know the correct term, so I will give you some choices --

sexo por atras (sex from behind)
el sexo anál (anal sex)
el griego (greek style)

-- good luck --

DiabloMactavish
10-19-02, 04:23
originally posted by hrchrister
im just wondering: (and a little bit schocked) is it really so that the age of consent in mexico is only 12 years?
i actually posted on this misinformation in the tijuana forum, and i would have linked to it in the archives, but it looks like they aren't working right now.

the technical legal age of consent is 16. however, the legal age of consent between two *minors* is 12. what that means is that a 15 year old cannot be charged with statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) for sleeping with a 12 - 16 year old.

i have this on good authority, from a attorney who was a former state prosecutor of guanajuato.

however, ironically, in contrast to the us, the authorities will not prosecute a statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) case unless a legal complaint (demanda) is filed.

for example, if you were over 16 and had a 14 year old girlfriend and had consentual sex with her, in your house for instance, as long as the parents never went to the ministerio publico (district attorney) there would never be a crime, even if the police caught you "en flagrante".

anyhow, i hope that clears it up.

DiabloMactavish
10-23-02, 04:55
originally posted by hrchrister
...but is girls 12-16 really avayable in mexico??!
look. i have never personally seen girls younger than 16 working, though they say sometimes the street girls in mexico city can be younger. no doubt you could pick up **** girls in most of the major metro areas in the us as well, thanks to crack and whatnot. however, i doubt you will ever see a minor in a brothel or a strip club - the owners won't risk it, and there are too many legal girls who need the work.

however, the circumstances of family life will always make exceptions.

i can tell you that they estimate that 40% of the mexican population lives in what is classified as "extreme poverty" and i have seen some of these homes, even here in a relatively wealthy part of san miguel. it is heartbreaking. i had a maid working for me that earned about us $35 per week working 40 hours, and she lived in a home that only had tin for roofing, dirt on the floors and cardboard in the windows, and mud brick interior walls. she lived there with her husband, 2 children, a brother-in-law and a sister, another child and the mother-in-law.

how can you blame someone who lives like that for wanting to get away?

by the way, the minimum legal wage in the state where i live is about $25 per week. so i was already paying her a good wage.

Zde
10-23-02, 06:22
Hello Gentelman: I apologize for my english but it is not my native language. Anyway, I am thinking off either visiting Mexico or Costa Rica and I was wondering whether someone could post the price comparisment for the ladies as well as other services such as accomodation and transportation. I would also grately appreciate info on safety, because I am blind and therefore more volnerable than the rest of the population. Thanks a lot and "happy experiences".

DiabloMactavish
12-03-02, 05:05
I am reposting this from my original post in the Forum Archives.

General tips for getting Mexican strippers to fuck you:

As with any strip club, anywhere in the world, be very careful about 'ladies drinks' and other hidden charges. The best thing in the clubs is to tell the girl you are interested in that you want to take her to a hotel, see if she is interested, and how much she'll charge.

Never fall for girls who want you to buy them drinks. Buy one or two, to be polite, take them into the "privada" table dance room and get a sample, but don't stay in the club with her. If she isn't interested in leaving, go talk to your second choice girl. Sometimes the competitive spirit kicks in, and the first girl comes back to renegotiate... If it is a busy night, and your having trouble finding a willing girl, tell your waiter that you want a girl that will leave with you. They know who they are.

Be careful about adulterated drinks. I have been in several bars where I *know* that they cut the liquor with 96 proof cane alcohol. If you want to get drunk, especially if you are with friends, find girls that are willing to drink with you and order a whole bottle. It can cost between US$50 - $75, but with a bottle you can keep track of how much you are spending.

Many of the shadier places try to get you drunk and inflate the bill. Try to pay cash for each round, because once they have your credit card, its going to be hard to get out without paying what they want you to pay. Also, sometimes you can convince the girl that instead of a drink, you'll just pay for her to sit with you. This has been well worth the US $5 or $10 many times to me. Also, if the girls offer you "2 for one", or a "sandwich", be sure to ask if they will do "lesbiana", or else you will just end up fucking one, then the other.

Finally, if you want the girl to leave early, you may have to pay a "salida" (exit) to the house. This can range between $100 and $800 pesos. Be aware that sometimes half of the salida goes back to the girl. I generally ask the waiter or doorman what the salida costs first. Also, some girls are unwilling to stay with you all night, because they will miss getting their "salary", if they don't go back to the club, when I found out this was only US $8, I just paid her an extra US $10 to miss it. Also, if you are going to be in town for a while, and you like your girl, tell her you want her to hang out with you. The sad fact that the majority of these girls are single mothers, with no child support from the fathers. There is a good percentage that are glad to be treated like a girlfriend instead of a prostitute, and will respond in kind. I know a cute 20 year-old girl I met in a strip club that I send an email to every time that I am going to be in Mexico City and she meets me at the Bus Station.

Finally, I have zero tolerance for hustlers. If you sense that the girl is trying to fleece you, even with ladies drinks, dump her. Its not worth the frustration. Don't be a sucker.

Prokofiev
12-05-02, 07:20
Some time ago, I read about a Website for Latin women called YUPI.com
I have posted my experiences in Spain under the Barcelona section, but I am repeating the info here as well. This site has been incredible for me. I met several women in Spain and 2 of them became my girlfriends. Totally. They gave me everything I could ask for and the experience was beyond my fantasies! I have returned and I can't believe what happened - it doesn't seem real. I am presently exchanging E-mails with several ladies in Mexico for my next trip. And I hope that . . .
If you seek the GFE and can write letters in Spanish, I can recommend this website without reservations. For me, a God send. Of course it IS a dating site. And along with the GFE comes GF problems. It is not for a quick score - although with one of the women that was possible. Generally, you need to write them and meet them and wine and dine them, before getting into their pants. But for me it was worth the effort. I wanted women who were late 30's to 40's and there were many. For younger guys, maybe the discos are better. But I could never have met these ladies without this approach. And they took care of me. Completely. A lot of work but try it! . . . -P

Across69
12-09-02, 13:57
Diablo,
Good message man!
I would only add that speaking SOME Spanish will save you money. I had a true GFE for 60$US and my gringo friend spent $150$ for an worse experience. I had a bad experience in Russia for the simple reason that I didn't speak the language. If you can't learn spanish at least get a spanish speaking friend to negociate the deal and give the girl a tip WHEN YOU COME BACK if you had a good time!

Carne
01-12-03, 08:13
Posted this on the NL forum but it needs to be posted here to:

I don't know how many of you guys are hunters or even own firearms, but I would like to caution you to never cross the border with a gun of any kind. As hard as they are trying to crack down on gun runners, you could land in jail for a looong time if you even accidently tried to take one across the border without the proper permits. Heck, if they even find one round of ammuntion in your car while you are crossing, you are toast. I kid you not! Check your ride good before you go over. Don't have any shotgun shells or rounds of ANY kind in it.

Dylock
02-05-03, 23:31
Prokofiev,
How was Spain? I am moving from CA to NY soon and want to take a trip. I couldn't find your report in the Spain section. I am looking on the new Yupi and there are some hotties, some notties, so I don't know what those women are really like! Is Spain better than Mexico for women?

Dylock

Prokofiev
02-06-03, 09:45
As you probably know, YUPI.com was eaten-up by Match.com and no longer exists. But most of the profiles were just moved to the new site. As I stated, Spain was a fantasy for me and highly recommended. Of course the Euro is now almost $1.10 (from.95 when I was there) while the peso is over 10 to the $1. So Mexico is the better buy, but Spain is not expensive. While I like Madrid, Granada and Seville - to me Barcelona is tops. Beautiful city with a lot of culture, music, architecture, food and a VERY open sex scene. Read about Kiss-Me Bar or the SW's in the Barcelona section.

I spent 6 weeks in Spain, the last month in Barcelona in a rented, furnished apartment ($950/mo). I had 2 girlfriends, both from Yupi.com and I basically alternated nights with them. One was a sweet, intellectual woman, very hot in bed but not great looking. But she's my sweetheart. The other was a beauty- hot-blooded, well-dressed, dark hair and eyes, jealous, difficult ... I called her "Carmen" and she was my down-fall, but I couldn't pass on such a classic Spanish doll. We fought, argued and screwed - and it was exciting as hell. Neither spoke English, and Spanish was their 2nd language ... yet somehow it all worked out. Spain is more liberal than Mexico. Much so. The women stronger and less passive. More education, more money. The odds of getting laid on the first date is infinitely higher in Barcelona. Faster pace of life . . .

Of course your results may vary. I like things like classical music, art museums, architecture, fine restaurants and for this, Spain is better. There is more variety of things to do and types of women in Barcelona than Mexico. Arabs, Africans, Swedes, Spanish . . .
Here's some good advice: If you want to study more Spanish, try the Don Quijote school in Barcelona. Over 200 (!) Swedish girls study Spanish there. Most 18-24 and a few older. A real meat market. Too young for me, yet I had quite a few friends from the classes. Also the disco scene is very hot in Barcelona for the 18-30 yo crowd. But if you want to find the GFE, definitely use the web-site to meet girls and set-up dates in advance. It worked for me . . . Good luck - P

Member #3453
05-01-03, 04:43
I just have to mention a couple of tips that have been very helpful to me as a first timer in Mexico. Prior to taking my first trip into Mexico, I started compiling information from all the posts I had read, condensing that information into summary form, and placing the information in the “memos” area of my Palm Pilot so I could refer to the information when I was in Mexico.

I had a unbelievable amount of information stored there, and I stuck the Palm Pilot in my pocket when I went across the border so I could refer to numerous notes I had made after reading months of information on the board. There is so much good information available on the board, that you simply can’t remember the details of all the excellent posts. With the Palm Pilot, I had all of that great information summarized and at my fingertips while mongering in Mexico. If I had any questions while in Mexico, I merely referred to the extensive archives I had stored in the Palm Pilot, and it was almost like having a direct link to the board right when I needed it.

I have all kinds of great information stored in various categories. So many posts related back to things like communicating in Spanish, club reviews, individual chicas and their reviews, pricing for chicas, drinks, cab fare, etc…, directions to different clubs, and a wealth of detailed other information. When I would read an interesting and helpful post on the board, I would merely condense the text down to the pertinent information I was interested in, highlight it, copy it, and transfer it to the memo page of the Palm Pilot. It was really easy. I secured this data by activating the password system on my Palm Pilot so in case the Palm Pilot was ever lost, it would be secure, and no unintended person could view the information. In fact, it is my understanding that, without the proper password, even Palm Pilot can not attempt to gain entry to secured data without destroying the data itself.

One of my biggest concerns about venturing into Mexico for the first time was my limited knowledge of the Spanish language. So, I had been contemplating the purchase of one of those electronic translators prior to visiting Mexico for the first time. However, the cost of one of the better translators was kind of expensive, so I didn’t get an opportunity to purchase one prior to my initial trip to Mexico. I just decided to store some common Spanish phrases and words in the Palm Pilot, and that served me well for my first trip.

However, when I got back, I started thinking about preparation for my next trip, and since this Palm Pilot idea had worked so well for me, I decided that instead of purchasing a translator, I would just purchase an add-on Spanish/English translator program for my Palm Pilot. I was able to purchase an add-on program for a very reasonable price on the internet.

The program I purchased was only about $18.00 and it seemed to be more comprehensive than even the best electronic translators. I purchased the Qvadis Lexica program for the OS3 format Palm Pilot. The English/Spanish portion has about 40,000 words in it, and the Spanish/English portion has about 34,000 words in it.

Of course, if you don’t already have a Palm Pilot, then the cost might be prohibitive compared to one of the less expensive electronic translators. But the more expensive ones are close in price to the cost of purchasing a Palm Pilot type of device. So, if you're thinking about buying one of the better electronic translators, don’t waste the money. Buy a Palm Pilot type of device instead. If you already have a Palm Pilot for work or something, or you don't have one and you decide to buy one, then my advice is to consider purchasing one of the many Spanish/English translator add-on programs for it.

Tear It Up Guys!!!

V Karamazov
07-15-03, 16:42
Great idea about the Palm Pilot. The idea had crossed my mind before. About Language Translators, I'm not at all happy with the one put out by Palm. That's the one that translates between French, German, Spanish, Italian, and English-- which would be great for us world travelers if it was as extensive as they claim it is. I think they said it was 20,000 words in each language-- it's maybe that many total.

Anyways, if you've still got those cheat notes, I'm trying to plan out my trip right now. postcardparis@yahoo.com

Deicer
07-19-03, 17:44
UnospongeBob,

I do like your Palm Pilot idea and will load mine up and take it along when I spend a week or two in Guadalajara in a couple months. I'm taking a Spanish course and would like to collect phrases which will be helpful in getting intimately acquainted with las chicas.

Have you run across a good source for this sort of vocabulary? I have culled a list of words from the dictionary, but I'm sure using the actual idiomatic expressions will work better than my guesses about how to string the words together. Women seem to respond very positively to feelings expressed in words.

Have you been to GDJ? I haven't and am really looking forward to the experience. I won't be able to prowl around much in the evenings but will have 2-3 hour periods free during the day. I figure I'll go to esteticas such as High Class, but would also like to get acquainted with some talkative, friendly and good-looking independents. Do you have any suggestions about how to find these ladies during the day? It doesn't seem likely that one could find them then on the streets. What about any local papers with classifieds?

Thanks much for any help,

Deicer

Deicer
07-19-03, 18:15
If I had scrolled down further before asking about key Spanish phrases, I would have seen diablomactavish's helpful list. Would still be interested in additonal expressions.

Thanks,

Deicer

DiabloMactavish
07-20-03, 03:11
Originally posted by Deicer
If I had scrolled down further before asking about key Spanish phrases, I would have seen diablomactavish's helpful list. Would still be interested in additonal expressions.


I was going to post some more phrases, but really couldn't think of any that weren't covered via phrasebooks and whatnot.

I do recommend the Berlitz Latin American Spanish phrasebook (available at places like amazon, and any good bookstore). It's color coded, and has tons of the basic "where's the train station" kind of stuff. It's also a comfortable pocket size format.

backchannel your vocabulary list to me:

| diablo_mactavish (at) hot mail (dot) com |

please put WSG in the subject - too much fuckin spam!

and I will post the answers in this forum for everyone's benefit.

____

Yo Jackson - how 'bout that regional phrases forum section I suggested, eh?

Deicer
07-22-03, 01:57
I do recommend the Berlitz Latin American Spanish phrasebook (available at places like Amazon, and any good bookstore). It's color coded, and has tons of the basic "where's the train station" kind of stuff. It's also a comfortable pocket size format.

I ordered the phrase book above from Amazon along with some other stuff including "Street Spanish 3: The Best of Naughty Spanish" by David Burke.

Will post my impressions.

Deicer

Artful Dodger #2
08-08-03, 23:21
This is a general request for SPECIFIC info on one to two week rentals in the Tiajuana/Ensenada area. I have traveled into Mexico over 25 times and now feel I must have put over $2000 in hotel charges into the pot. Isn't there some way to rent a week or two in an apartment there at a lower cost?

Googs
08-12-03, 07:32
Viagara sales

Whats the scoop with viagara sales south of the border. Can you get the real deal for less? Is a prescription necessary? Any trouble with customs?

Thanks,

Googs

Randy2001
09-15-03, 21:01
Deicer and others regarding Phrasebooks: "Lonely Planet Latin American Phrasebook" is the best I've found for the hobby. Aside from the normal pronunciation, accomodations, food, health sections it has a section titled "going out". This has phrasees for "dating and relationships" including before, durring and after "intimacy" as they put it. Very helpful, pocket sized and about 7 bucks.

Regarding PalmPilots: I always take a small notpad and pen. MUCH cheaper than a Palmpilot. If I lose it BFD, easy to replace (both simple and no explanations to SO). Also, it can be very helpful to have others write down names or draw maps, etc. not something I would do with a Palmpilot!

Randy

Sun Devil
09-27-03, 11:24
Could somebody recommend which major city, other than those on the border, to go to for some mongering action at the most economically rate? I know there is more to Mexico than the border cities for the hobby. Also, in addition to women, I am interested in other vacational activities, such as visiting museums and trying out restaurants.

Also, has anyone tried the luxury bus lines in Mexico? How do they compare to Greyhound? I have heard that they have movies, luxury seating, food, and a bus attendant. With these amenities, are they expensive?

Thanks.

Mill Just
09-29-03, 23:19
Hi sundevil...

I would recommend any of the Colonial Cities in the middle of Mexico for the best combination of economical mongering and culture...Morelia, Queretaro,Guanajuato...(Guanajuato is heavy on history and culture, but a little lighter on "adult" fun). There are other big, nearby cities that give a lot of bang for the buck...Leon, Celaya, Pachuca, Toluca. These places are medium-large cities that are not tourist-obsessed. Therefore, prices are low and people are generally friendlier. In these towns, being an American works for you not against you like in the coastal cities or Mexico City. In other words, you're less likely to be hussled for a few extra pesos.

Personally, I would recommend Morelia because, since I moved to Mexico 3 1/2 years ago, I've been going there and I've never had a single problem. The people are friendly and very out-going. Morelia has a beautiful downtown, with old Spanish architecture and Cathedrals. It also has an Int'l Airport and is within bus distance from the other cities I mentioned.

Speaking of buses, The bus-riding experience is much better than the Greyhound experience. I was reminded of that fact recently when I took a Greyhound from San Diego to Las Vegas during a 5-day excursion back to the USA. More people take buses in Mexico,so there is more money to provide cleaner bus terminals, more comfortable seating, and entertainment (although, many of the movies are dubbed in Spanish). Also, because there is much more competition than in the USA (Mexico has numerous different bus lines) and more buses on the road, buses are not always sold out and many times you have an empty seat next to you.

If you're looking to bus it from the USA to Central Mexico, there are also very economical bus fares that take you from the Northern USA to Southern Mexico. From my personal experience, the fare from Chicago to Morelia was (aprox)250 US dollars (I used "Autobuses Americanos). But 44 hours on a bus is not the best way to go...believe me.

In general, the bus fares are a little less than half the price of the greyhound fares in the US...and the service and comfort level is much better in my opinion.

If you have any further questions...please don't hesitate to ask.

Prokofiev
09-30-03, 04:37
Miller! You are still alive . . .

I think I would scratch Guanajuato from your list and add Guadalajara. I had a hard time finding any action when I was in Guanajuato. Nothing very obvious. On the other hand the esteticas of Guadalajara are very active, easy to find and a good deal at $40-$80 per hour for a massage, sauna and FS.

Also, the deluxe buses of Mexico are the best I have ever been on.

Cheers, -P

DiabloMactavish
09-30-03, 04:47
Ack.

Proko - are you actually recommending missing La Yegua in Queretaro?!?

I know I am biased since I am in San Miguel de Allende - but I can say that I have been to at least 30 brothels in 9 different countries since age 14 and La Yeguita is in the top 2 - (#1 was in Thailand, but it was my first experience in a brothel, and I am probably biased by childhood memory ;) ).

Prokofiev
09-30-03, 04:56
Diablo,
What am I missing? The city of Queretaro is different than the city of Guanajuato, no? I thought maybe Queretaro was in the state of Guanajuato, but no it isn't. I liked La Yegua. But I didn't find anything happening in Guanajuato . . . or in San Miguel for that matter. Guanajuato is a good tourist town but the hottest thing I saw there were a few good looking mummies with their bushes still intact. I DO like older women, but that is going too far . . .


Peace, -P

Mill Just
09-30-03, 08:18
Proko...

...nice to talk with you again...

No, I'm not dead...just happily retired from mongering right now...:)

I agree with you about Guanajuato. It's a beautiful city with a lot to see, but it isn't exactly a hotbed of carnal delights. As for Guadalajara...believe it or not, I've never spent any significant time there (because of some advice a few friends gave me). Personally, I'm not too keen on the estetica scene. I much prefer taking a girl back to the hotel. (plus, I'm a big guy and those tables aren't very comfortable for me)...but your rave reviews of Guadalajara esteticas make me want to go back in time and try some out.

So, stay safe and have fun all. Sorry I won't be giving any mongering reports any time soon...but I'm always here lurking if anybody needs any help...

Sun Devil
09-30-03, 20:42
Thanks miller2k for the information. Just wondering whether these cities have compounds to meet the girls or you pretty much have to ask the taxi drivers where to get some action.

DiabloMactavish
10-02-03, 02:49
Just wondering whether these cities have compounds to meet the girls

that is an exclusively border town thing... well I take it back, I believe some of the beach resort towns have compounds too.

In regular Mexican cities you are most likely to find "Zonas de Tolerancia" (tolerance zones), usually at the fringes of the city limits.

In larger towns you'll find red light districts - much like it is in most places in the US.

---

Proko - don't forget that he said he was "interested in other vacational activities, such as visiting museums and trying out restaurants" - skipping GTO in favor of Guadalajara means missing la Yegua and the very beautiful colonial towns, restaurants and museums that are conveniently located nearby. ;)

Like I said I like San Miguel - I live here full time - and there is more mongering action than ever. I am seeing new places popping up every where.

Prices have never been lower, either.

Dickhead
10-02-03, 03:08
Sun Devil: Guadalajara has excellent restaurants, some museums, art, free music, and other cultural activities, and excellent mongering. The weather is excellent year-round due to slight elevation and being sheltered from hurricanes and such. No compound but there is an RLD/zona de tolerancia, as well as clubs and massage parlors. Check Adam's apples at all times as it is the sex change capitol of North America as well as a haven for gay Mexicans. It has a great new bus terminal and yes, the buses are excellent in Mexico. Most recently I took a huge Volvo bus from Guadalajara to Puerto Vallarta, passing through the agave plantations and finally a bit of jungle. It was about 350 pesos. A general and very rough rule of thumb would be $10 US per hour of bus ride for a luxury bus. There were movies on this ride but no attendants. They gave you a sack lunch with a non-alcoholic drink when you boarded, and they searched the carry on luggage so be careful what you have in there. I had a bunch of sex toys so it was a bit embarassing. Or, it would have been embarassing if I weren't a

Dickhead

Sun Devil
10-05-03, 00:08
Hey guys, thanks for the info. If I were to go to Guadalajara, where do you recommend I stay? Are the mongering actions close to downtown and Plaza Tapatia and Javier Mina or is it around the Zona Rosa?

Also, is the central bus station, since I am planning to use a bus to get to the city, close to downtown or will I have to take a taxi. I still find it incredulous that the second largest city in the country be so economical for mongering action.

DiabloMactavish
10-05-03, 02:32
> I had a bunch of sex toys so it was a bit embarassing

reminds me of a time when I got stopped and searched at a checkpoint by soldiers looking for drugs and weapons and one of them opened up a paper bag that had about 25 condoms, lube and a vibrator.

I had a very pretty GF as passenger (who had no idea about the bag's contents) and the soldier opened it, gasped and blushed, looked at the girl and quickly stuffed the bag back behind the seat where he found it.

That ended the inspection.

Octatron
10-09-03, 09:01
Hey Fellow Mongers

As for the Border towns. What is everybodys favorite in terms of the cheapest.

I've been to TJ, NL, and Juarez, and for me it's just getting out of hand. So since I'm doing another cross country trip I thought I would try a new town.

Happy Mongering.

DiabloMactavish
10-10-03, 03:27
I had fun in Matamoros, but it was about 5 years ago. I don't think they have a Boy's Town set up, more like just several bars in a row.

One Great Man
10-25-03, 21:18
Hi guys:

I read reports on electronic translators on one of these posts. Unfortunately, I don't remember which one, and I didn't copy the brand names down! If anyone has suggestions, I'd appreciate a post at This1greatman@yahoo.com. This would be of benefit to all us mongers.

Prokofiev
11-04-03, 17:59
Great,

I have a Franklin "Bookman" BES-1840A. There is a newer model that is much the same and was highly recommended by someone else. Costs around $100, I think. I use it as a dictionary. Much lighter. Will pronounce english and spanish - in a crappy robot voice. That feature is more useful for a Spanish speaker needing to say English words. You can learn to pronounce Spanish in about 1 day. The rules are perfectly clear, unlike our language.

Sun Devil
11-09-03, 05:30
What does it entail to be a Mexican woman's novio?

Being a rather young person who just graduated from college a couple of months ago and somewhat naive to the whole gamut of Latin American cultural values, I have no idea how to react to the fact that one of the providers that I have been seeing has called me her novio and she, my novia. As a rule, I have tried to be nice and romantic around her, like saying bulls*** stuff and giving her small presents, and my actions could have prompted her to think that I wanted to be her boyfriend. In addition, she indicated to me that, if any of my friends asked me what line of work she is in, I should tell them that she is a bilingual secretary of a large business firm. She is definitely embarrassed with regards to her occupation.

First of all, should I be flattered? I don't want to offend her and insult her by declining this title. She has already declared me to be her boyfriend among her workmates, perhaps out of sheer possessiveness. I find Mexican women to be generous and have good hearts, and I don't want to hurt her feelings.

Second, does this mean that she wants me to start buying her presents, giving her my undivided attention, paying her rent or living with her? Does this entail that I should start acting jealous while she continues working?

Can anybody help me who has gone through this route by providing some advice on what to expect and how to react? Thanks in advance.

OutoftheGame
11-09-03, 10:51
Sundevil,

All it means is that she has claimed you as hers. She is telling you what she thinks you want to hear and to make you not want to go with other girls which in turn will cost her money.

She will call you her boyfriend around her friends to make you feel special. And unless you are not paying her for any services you should be smart enough to realize that it is all a game.

The good thing is that it sounds like you don't have these type of feelings for her except to be a nice guy. So if she gives you good service and you enjoy her time than let her say what she wants but don't take it seriously. On the other hand if you are looking to see other girls I would tell her that you can't be her boyfriend but you can be a special friend and that you enjoy the time that you have with her but will want to look for other friends sometimes to.

These girls will do alot to make a guy not go with other girls. And no matter what she says do not ever give her money for rent or any of that other shit.

Prokofiev
11-09-03, 17:12
Devil,

Novio can mean friend, boyfriend or fiancé depending who she is and HOW she sez it. OOTGame is probably right that she wants to claim you as a steady customer and it is partly a joke . . . but a pleasant one.

On the other hand she, like millions of Mexicanas, might like a gringo husband who has a good job, a college degree and US citizenship for herself and her children.

I wouldnt jump to conclusions either way. If you like her, ask her for a date - without paying her. Consider it an adventure. If you are "naive" about Mexican cultural habits, you won't be after meeting her parents, grandparents and 6 older brothers.

As to being embarrassed about her occupation, introducing her to friends and family as "Hey Mom, Dad. I want you to meet Maria. She's a hooker!" . . . well that just doesn't fly in ANY culture. Trust me . . .

You Friend -P

Sun Devil
11-10-03, 04:55
Thanks guys, I appreciate the advice. I'll just play it by ear and see what happens.

Mill Just
11-10-03, 07:27
SunDevil,

Just thought that I'd add my two cents here. I've lived in Mexico for awhile and I've learned the customs first hand (sometimes the hard way) with regards to dating and relationships.

The typical Mexican woman will require you, as the man, to "declare" your intentions for her. (The words in Spanish is "Declarar"). You literally have to ask her, "will you be my girlfriend?" If she says yes, then you're her boyfriend. If you don't ask, your relationship will go nowhere and you will always be "just friends". Things may vary from person to person, but this has been the case in EVERY instance that I've experienced or heard about.

Working girls tend to be a lot more forward, so it doesn't surprise me that this girl is working you hard and staking her claim to a man who treats her with respect. She probably sees you as her ticket to a better life and she won't give you up lightly.

I recommend that you make it very clear to her that you don't want a serious relationship. Mexican women are very jealous and tempermental. I've seen working girls get into bloody fist fights with other girls (and sometimes the man themselves) over clients. Imagine how bad it could get if somebody takes away her "last chance" for a better life?

She might have only the best intentions when it comes to a potential relationship with you, but unless you want a serious relationship with her you should tell her the truth ASAP. And, yes, as Out of the Game said, don't hand out any extra money for her rent or food or bills unless you wantto be her SugarDaddy.

Take care and always have fun....

J Boy
11-18-03, 00:18
Hi everyone,

I am considering buying a home in the Lake Chalupa area. Is it near any of the cities that have forums here? Can any of you give me some insight on retiring in Mexico? I am divorced, 55 years old and live alone.

Thanks.

DiabloMactavish
12-09-03, 06:26
Somehow I missed Sundevil's post, so sorry this is so late.

I will echo what the other guys are saying - don't fall for the "my grandma's sick routine", because, amazingly, you will suddenly discover that one member of the family after another is on their deathbed just about every other day.

I hooked up with a provider about 15 days ago, and she is living with me right now, slated to go back home to Guadalajara this Thursday.

Anyhow, aside from the night I paid for her to leave the club with me, she has received no more than about US $60 in cash.

Most nights she has made me dinner, I paid for the groceries. She has then gone out to work at the bar where I met her - but she is no longer doing "salidas" (she says).

I don't really care if she does or not, frankly. She comes home at 2 -3 AM and we make love, then again in the morning.

Three times, she has played "hooky" from the bar, and on those nights, I have given her about $15 - about half of what she earns on an average night hustling drinks - she "chips in" the other half (ie gives it up not to go to work).

One morning she asked to borrow $2 and that evening she made a big show of paying it back.

I told her flat out at the beginning - I like you, I like having sex with you - but I am not rich enough to pay for you like this... if you like me then let's hang out and I will treat you exactly like my girlfriend, because you will be my girlfriend as far as I am concerned.

And she has been living with me ever since (she had been sharing an apartment with some other providers.)

I took her out to a very nice dinner on (US) thanksgiving night, I've cooked dinner for her, she's gone to a couple movies with me, and in exchange she's cooked me dinner, scolded my house maid who is now cleaning up 10 times better than before, and oh yeah, have the best damn sex of my life.

Luckily because I am cheap, I have a little dumpy apartment which backs up my "I'm not rich" credibility. :P

Sun Devil
12-09-03, 08:11
Thanks for the reply. Out of curiosity, has she introduced you to her relatives? If so, how has she explained on how she met you? In my opinion, no Mexican woman would want to admit that she is working as a prostitutes to her relatives. Some have told me that they say to the people taking care of their children while they're out working, such as their sister or mother, that they are working in restaurants or factories. Therefore, the question on how she met you would be an issue. She definitely cannot say that she met you as a client prior to you becoming her boyfriend.

Sun Devil
12-09-03, 08:29
I am realizing that age and maturity are an advantage for men in Mexico, as opposed to the US. Is it just my imagination but it seems to me that Mexican women apparently are more attracted to guys who are in their 40s or older than those in their 20s. They seem to find maturity as a more attractive quality than youthfullness and looks.

The Wizard
12-09-03, 23:50
SunDevil,

My family is from Mexico and yes the women generally are more attracted to older guys. The place my family is from is very "old school" in its customs. It is not uncommon for men in their 30s and 40s to date women in their late teens. Although illegal here, some older men have married 15yr olds and it is not frowned upon in those areas.

It might be different in the bigger cities. My uncle knows several young girls who are always turning down good looking guys and big-money drug dealers in their town. The girls say they would rather wait for a serious older man, who won't leave them.

I think they have a strong fear about getting divorced so they pass on the youthful players and settle for the older men. Most are still virgins! (At least they claim to be.)

Mill Just
12-11-03, 08:09
SunDevil,

I don't think that Mexican women are more attracted to older men as much as they are attracted to more accomplished, financially secure men (as is the case in most of the rest of the world).

I'm 33 years old and my first girlfriend when I moved to Mexico was 16 years old (I swear that I didn't know at first). I was expecting her parents to kill me (they were only 3 years older than me), but they were all in favor of me dating their daughter. The oldest woman that I've gone out with was 24 (my current girlfriend). Women in Mexico aren't very different from other women across the globe: They just have different priorities and your status as a gringo will surpass almost all obstacles of age or appearance. (Especially since many, many Mexican women have the correct impression that American men treat their women better.) Be careful of gold-diggers, though. I always make it very clear that I came to Mexico to live a simple life and that I do not intend to return to the USA, except on vacation. However, money rules here. The richest men have the best women (and sometimes a handful). My town is on the poor side, so that might explain some of the materialism. But money will get you anywhere you need to be. The most vile, disgusting men have the most beautiful women because they have deep pockets. Non- gold-diggers do exist but every woman wants a man who can "take care of them and their family." That is a custom that transcends generations, it's part of their collective psyche, even among the educated, professional women.

I've only had a semi-relationship with a pro once, a couple of years ago. She was a real sweetheart, but a ton of trouble. I met some members of her family who came to visit during Christmas. She told them that she was a legal secretary for the government. She explained her strange hours by saying that she had to work whenever they found a dead body or a late night crime. Our relationship turned out terrible and ugly because the Pros, even the sweetest ones, usually have a dark side (sometimes very dark).

Take care and be safe

World Wise
12-15-03, 17:10
J Boy

I visited the Lake Chalupa area in November. It is about 20 miles south-east of Guadulajara. Easy bus trip (60 pecos eachway) and safe and clean! The village of Chalupa is located on north shore of lake, about in the middle, east-to-west. About 6 miles west is village of AJIIJIC. This is where the large Us and Canadaian Ex-Pat community lives. Ajiijic is maybe 10-15,000 people, and the Ex-pat community is probably 25% of population. Easy to operate in english, many rests. have primarily english items on their menus.

Spoke to several regular american guys who have retired there, and to two who winter there, and return to states in summer time. You can rent an apt or condo there for $500 US per month that would cost you 1100 to 1200 here in Chicago.

Difficult to determine much about nightlife because of my companion. But many possible spots to try.

The city of Guadulajara offers anything a man could want. See previous posts re High Class Est.

Boxing Rule 222
12-18-03, 03:29
miller2k stated "I'm 33 years old and my first girlfriend when I moved to Mexico was 16 years old."

miller2k also stated "Women in Mexico aren't very different from other women across the globe: They just have different priorities and your status as a gringo will surpass almost all obstacles of age or appearance. (Especially since many, many Mexican women have the correct impression that American men treat their women better.)"

so miller2k is a molester and should not be allowed to post in this board.
miller2k is also a bigot "(Especially since many, many Mexican women have the correct impression that American men treat their women better.)".

I am not Hispanic but i found this quite racist. I hope Jackson takes away his membership.

It is people like miller2k who stated "I'm 33 years old and my first girlfriend when I moved to Mexico was 16 years old."
that give mongers a bad name.

Prokofiev
12-18-03, 04:16
Boxing,

I too was a little surprised at the 16 yo girlfriend. I suspect it is not as bad as it first sounds, but I will leave it up to Miller2k to explain himself and the situation.

As to the idea that a gringo will treat a Mexican woman better (in general) than a Mexican man, I can tell you that from my experience this expectation of the ladies is quite common and probably quite true. It is a cultural difference duely noted by many observers including my Mexican friends, both male and female. Certainly this expectation lumps together many different elements - economics, US laws and customs and machismo among others. And although I don't have statistics to back up the assertion, I think that domestic violence is both more common and more tolerated in Mexico - or at least that is the opinion of many latinas, both there and here in the US. Clearly, this is a generalization and not meant to demean the majority of Mexican men who treat their wifes and girlfriends with respect. But I don't find Miller's comment racist in this regard.

And I think if you search and read his previous posts, you will find that Miller2k has come to the defense of women more than most writers on this forum.

Dickhead
12-18-03, 06:34
since i am a dickhead i will be more blunt than pk and state that there is no doubt in my mind that not just méjican men but men all over latin america treat their women "worse" than american men. the question then becomes: do they treat them too poorly or do american men treat their women better than they deserve? the truth is probably somewhere in between. latin men tend to desert their families more often than american men. that may sound like a racist comment but actually the basis is historical and is the vestiges of colonialism. similar history accounts for the similar situation with blacks in america, and the "out children" in the bahamas, and so forth ad nauseum.

as a student of méjican history, i can tell you that one of the largest mass [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) in history took place when the conquistadores arrived in the new world. this leads to a situation which one prominent historian whose name i can't recall right now described as, "the méjican hates his spanish father for what he did to his indian mother but resents his indian mother for allowing it to happen [or words to that effect]." understanding this goes a long way to understanding machismo. understand also that the mestizo was initially created in the vast majority of cases by a spanish father and an indian or indigenous mother, and very rarely vice versa.

understand further that few of the conquistadores were married and of those few who were, most of them left their families behind when they chose to sail with cortés. that alone goes a long way to understanding the development of prostitution in méjico. cortés himself acknowledged children by at least three indigenous women, including the famous la malinche who accompanied the conquistadores as an interpreter.

it may also go a long way to explaining why there is such a high percentage of starfish among méjican prostitutes! however, none of this excuses miller 2k's **** exploits. he is a pompous fat fuck, but he does know his shit as far as the country is concerned.

look for this syndrome to spread as we face "four more wars" with bush and his perverted version of "compassionate colonialism."

Boxing Rule 222
12-18-03, 09:09
prokofiev,
okay we can all play the "my experience" racist game. what i am about to say is based on my true experiences.
i must mention that most of the women i have met when i am mongering have told me that the american and british men are the worse. they tend to smell and they have small dicks.
they laugh how insecure they feel compared to the latin lovers or the black studs they have fun with.
do not hate the messanger this is what i hear all the time.
i have traveled to the far east, europe, and all central and south american areas.

dickhead stated "i think that domestic violence is both more common and more tolerated in mexico."
since you have access to the internet you will find that white men are more than likely (per % of the population) to be child molesters "miller2k" and wife beaters. heck did you know that iowa and kansas have the highest rate of domestic abuse in the usa. not many blacks or latins there.


the real point of the report was to get peoples feedback about "miller2k" admission to have a girlfriend that was ****.
i enjoy this forum and i think we should make sure this type of activity does not exist here.
i was shocked when i read what "miller2k" said.

let's agree to keep this forum racist and **** free.

Prokofiev
12-18-03, 09:48
"American and British men are the worse. They tend to smell and they have small dicks. Do not hate the messanger this is what I hear all the time."

I don't hate the messenger, especially since I smell quite nice and have a big dick . . . although I fail to see the point here. The idea that many latinas "have the impression that American men treat their women better" has more to due with education and economics than with love-making techniques or sexual confidence. Being "treated better" probably means a higher standard of living and creature comforts, better education and health care for their children and less domestic violence. Not whispering sweet words, screwing or dancing ability.

And although you may think wife beating is rampant in Iowa, I feel certain that more domestic violence goes unreported and certainly unpunished in Guadalajara than exists in the entire state of Iowa. I don't know where you are from, but I sense that you haven't spent a great deal of time in either Mexico or Iowa or Kansas. - Britain? Australia?

In the meantime we can wait for Miller2k to explain just what he did with the 16 yo girl, how he found out her age and what happened after he found out.

Boxing Rule 222
12-18-03, 10:48
Prokofiev,
Do you mean book smarts or street smarts???
Sure you have a big dick keep on thinking that Prokofiev. LOL
Prokofiev stated "I feel certain that more domestic violence goes unreported and certainly unpunished in Guadalajara"
Do you feel this or is this a FACT. You see Prokofiev it is racist assumtions like your statement that proves you are a bigot.
It is a fact that Iowa has the highest domestic violence rate in the United States.
This is documented and it is not a feeling.
Your racist tricks will not work here.
If you read my post you will noticed that I have lived in many areas of the world. So I have met many many people. Thank goodness most are not as ignorant and racist as you are.


Prokofiev states "in the meantime we can wait for Miller2k to explain just what he did with the 16 yo girl, how he found out her age and what happened after he found out."
He stated that he had a 16 year old girlfriend <----

Prokofiev
12-18-03, 12:50
"Do you mean book smarts or street smarts???"

I have no idea what you are talking about . . .

"Prokofiev stated "I feel certain that more domestic violence goes unreported and certainly unpunished in Guadalajara" Do you feel this or is this a FACT. You see Prokofiev it is racist assumtions like your statement that proves you are a bigot. It is a fact that Iowa has the highest domestic violence rate in the United States. This is documented and it is not a feeling."

Look , whoever you are - it appears you only want to argue and not think. There can be no "facts" about unreported and unpunished domestic violence because it is UNREPORTED! This is a very common occurence in Mexico where reporting crimes to the police can itself be dangerous. And what constitutes domestic violence and its legal ramifications is quite different between different counties. I can find no info on domestic violence reporting in Mexico, which doesn't surprise me. And looking at rates across the US, I can find no report that says Iowa and Kansas are the worst states. A report on serious injury and death due to domestic violence by state, shows both near the bottom compared to New York, Arkansas and S Carolina. And by city, the highest rates are in NYC, Houston and LA - and that's per capita. Not that this makes the slightest difference in your arguement.
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You seem intent on branding everyone a racist who disagrees with you. For me, this discussion is closed. You are dismissed.

Boxing Rule 222
12-18-03, 20:25
Prokofiev,
I hate arguing I just do not tolerate racist thought like yours.
If you read all my previous posts in this forum you can see I like helping people out with information about our activity.

I will let the people in this board decide for themselves.
Your racist assumtions or facts.

Prokofiev stated "You seem intent on branding everyone a racist who disagrees with you. For me, this discussion is closed. You are dismisse."
It is not my intent it is only to expose people with little racist minds.

Dickhead
12-18-03, 21:14
i agree with pk that the statistics are suspect due to underreporting. also to say that "white" people have a higher rate of whatever ignores the fact that the spaniards were white and that many méjicans, particularly the upper class, are still relatively pure anglo, a/k/a "criollo" and thus are "white."

you see, the statistics and reporting are dependent on what is perceived to be abuse, and what is perceived to be "****d." in the united states, for example, the government provides free public education up to the age of approximately 18. partially for that reason, it is not common for people to marry and start families prior to that age, although it certainly does occur.

contrast that with méjico, which in general provides only 8 years of free public education, and then only if the parents can pay for uniforms, or even with perú which provides only five years of free public education. partially for that reason, it is quite common for people to marry and start families at an earlier age, including at an age that would not be widely tolerated in the us and many other industrialized countries. furthermore you have the situation where in an agrarian society a large family is often an economic advantage and in an industrialized society it generally is not.

different perceptions of gender roles in latin societies also enter into it. many people in those societies consider it acceptable to "discipline" a wife and do not consider this to be "abuse." i am not saying i agree with this but it exists. again, it relates to the greater degree of economic dependence on men by women, which shifts the power in the relationship, and again much of it can be understood (although perhaps not justified) by looking at the history of colonialism in latin america.

i've been reading pk's posts for a long time and i do not think he is a racist. i think he is a realist and a very intelligent, well-read, and articulate one at that. me, i'm just a dickhead who travels a lot in latin america and reads a lot of history.

Boxing Rule 222
12-18-03, 22:00
Dickhead,
you have been a great service to this forum, especially in the Argentinan section.

I will drop the subject now like I promised and let the board decide.


Just remember the word Perceived is used to jusify racism throughout the world.

This is how PK PERCEIVES the world--
I perceive that Mexicans abuse their wives more than I.
I perceive that I know this because I lived there for awhile.
I perceive I know more than the police reports and other vital
statistics that state otherwise.
I perceive I know what UNREPORTED means.
I perceive rich people do not abuse their wife while poor people
do it constantly.


Yes, just remember the word Perceived is used to jusify racism throughout the world.

The topic will now be dropped and now on with the mongering.

Mill Just
12-20-03, 06:50
Wow. Go away for a few days and people are calling for your head! (Or at least one person is).


For the people who know me and have read my posts over the years, I obviously don't need to explain myself. But for "the challenged few" such as Boxing, I would like to make some things clear.


First, having a girlfriend and having a lover are sometimes two different things. I met my girlfriend in a store and I never even suspected that she was 16 until it happened to come up a couple of weeks later. For those who know, Mexican girls often look much older than their age. I was naive about this too until I moved to Mexico. And, as Bill Clinton once said, "I never had sexual relations with that woman." When I found out her age I did everything I could to end the relationship ASAP despite the efforts of the girl and her parents to keep us together. So, you are the perverted one if you just assumed that I was porking this innocent little girl.


Second, I AM of Hispanic ancestry and I speak from first hand experience. The women will almost all tell you here in Mexico that they want an American man who will be less of a sexist than the typical Mexican man. In my three years of living here in Mexico, I've never heard a Mexican woman sing the praises of Mexican men. Does that mean that ALL Mexican men are bad? No. It just means that Mexican men tend to be more traditional with regards to gender roles and many of the modern Mexican women want careers and the sharing of houselhold chores that many American women have. Once again, from first hand experience I can tell you that the Mexican women that I've met find American men more sensitive and supportive. (Although a visit to Mexico from "Boxer" may change their impressions). They may not have had personal experience with American men, but this is their impression. And I have to say that, in general, it is a correct impression from what I've seen. The married men that I know treat their women as maids and the majority have lovers on the side. Is this a racist statement on my part? I don't care because racism is in the eyes of the beholder. I know that I'm not racist against any race, especially hispanics (since I AM a hispanic and I've chosen to live in MEXICO, moron.)


Finally, Boxing, I don't have to answer to you or anyone else. My previous posts speak for me. Obviously you were either too lazy or stupid to check them out. I just feel the need to clarify myself to any other lunk head that chooses to get his panties all in a bunch over some imagined violation. This is the last that I will comment on this because it is a waste of time and space. If anyone should be banned from this board, it should be Boxer for starting a flame war and wasting everybody's time with juvenile rants involving "penis size" and "body odor". ( I strongly suspect that Boxer may have had a problem with me before when he used a previous handle and just wanted to lash out at me once again. )


Take care all, Merry X-mas and stay safe.

Despite the lunk heads of the world, I am still:
The Happiest Man Alive :)

Boxing Rule 222
12-20-03, 07:17
miller2k,

since you are of hispanic ancestry that means your dad (according to your racist theory) treats your mother like a bad person. remember this is your theory of personal experience not mine. i pity your mom.

(this is the best one)miller2k stated "i did everything i could to end the relationship asap despite the efforts of the girl and her parents to keep us together." yes i am sure it was hard to break up with a 16 year old baby. lol

a pervert is an old man and a 16 year old period. you used the word girlfriend not i.

if you read my post about personal experiences it is just the opposite. but unlike you i did not post them on this board until i read your racist rhetoric.

miller2k stated "i know that i'm not racist against any race, especially hispanics (since i am a hispanic and i've chosen to live in mexico, moron.)

excuse me did not strom thurmond speak about seperation of the races yet he had a black daughter. hmmmmm.
i think you chose to live in mexico because you have the racist concept that i am better because i am an american. i pity you. what a way to live thinking you are better than others because you are american.

miller2k just for your information i have never met you before or had any problems with you until i read your racist **** post.

you and the michael jacksons in the world stay out of this board please.

Boxing Rule 222
12-20-03, 07:20
Sorry Jackson I will drop the subject now.

Artful Dodger #2
12-20-03, 23:58
This is a pre-report of my intended visit to TJ/Ensenada during the second week of February. The reason for the posting in this order is to get some pre-information!!

I would like some SPECIFIC info on one to two week rentals in the Tiajuana/Ensenada area. I have traveled into Mexico over 25 times and now feel I must have put over $2000 in hotel charges into the pot. Isn't there some way to rent a week or two in an apartment there at a lower cost?

I requested this herein about four months ago, but since my visit is approaching quickly, time is of the essence. Can someone PLEASE steer me toward a "cheaper" way to go than the hotels in Zona Norte?

Sun Devil
12-21-03, 05:17
I cannot believe that a simple observation I had in Mexico would spark such controversies. If you ever have the chance, go ask the providers you are with their age and the age of their eldest child. Do the math and you will see that the typical provider had their first child around 15 to 18 years old.

They either didn't use birth control because of the high cost of condoms for a young person or the fact that they didn't want to use it. There is still the stigma of using birth control in that country due to its Catholic traditions.

In addition, these women, after learning that I don't have children and have not ever been married, asked the reasons why, as if there is something wrong with me. I am only in my 20s and culturally, in their eyes, I should already be a family man with a bunch of kids. There is definitely a cultural difference between the US and Mexico in this regards. Having children is very important in the eyes of Mexicans.

Mill Just
12-22-03, 09:04
Artful Dodger,

I'm not an expert at all on TJ, but I can give you some general advice.

I would suggest picking up a local TJ newspaper and looking in the "apartments for rent" section. I live in Central Mexico and I know that all the large cities and tourist areas have deals where you can rent apartments for periods of time. The rates in Central Mexico are in the 500-3000 peso area weekly depending on the place and the part of the country.

Sorry I can't give you any specific advice and none of this will probably help you on this trip, but not too many people were responding to your requests.

Have fun

Maltrufio
12-22-03, 18:41
AD2,

Go to google and enter this in the search field:

+"vacation rental" +ensenada

You'll get 2,200 sites returned. It'll take some time to filter through the duds but I've found several potentials.

Country John
12-22-03, 20:42
Sundevil:

There will always be someone out there who thrives on picking flies out of cow shit. Ignore them and they will go away.

If these people actually READ the posts, they would have not mis-interpreted your posts.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

DiabloMactavish
01-03-04, 00:58
Just for the record, I am currently 35 and I have been asked out by girls under the age of 18 many, many times in the nearly 7 years I have lived in Mexico.

As Miller stated, he didn't have sex with her, he was simply dating her.

I have in general dated girls around the age of 20, some of whom have been 18.

Does it make me or anyone a "child molester" to date some one nearly (if not quite literally) half my age.

Nope, sorry.

As Sundevil mentions, many of the providers have children, and a little math shows that they were 13, 14, or 15 when the children were conceived.

There is a definite aspect of the culture in Mexico which pushes younger girls towards older boyfriends - mostly, I suspect because a man that is 23, 24 or even 35 is usually a much better "prospect" for a young woman than someone her age.

That doesn't mean there aren't 35 year old men that are losers, but what it means that a successful 35-year-old is a better "risk" than an 18-year-old boy with no career, no income, no property etc.

It appears (to me, in general terms) that while emotional happiness and physical attraction play roles here, there is also a significant thought put in to long-term happiness and financial stability.

That's just my "racist" opinion. I have plenty of observation to back it up, but I am an outsider in this country, and my observations are filtered through my own personal experience.

Monger22
01-04-04, 05:55
Looking for help in Cancun. Left posts there but thought id try here, maybe more readers. Going to Cancun Jan 9 for 8 days. Looking for info on where to find the girls from recent visitors. Ive seen $250 escorts but too expensive for me. Anyone have any info? Appreciate your help.

Cheap Thrill
01-07-04, 06:13
As a newbie to the board, I have a question. And that is of the border towns along Texas which one would be your choice if traveling solo? particulary for safety and entertainment on a week night. I have been to Reynosa and Laredo with groups of people years back. Laredo seemed somewhat more or too commercial and Reynosa was better ,but I was curious about Piedras Negras and Del Rio. Just looking for some fun, not police hassles or stare down contests with locals which is possible anywhere I know. I guess I'm looking for the place thats most laid back. I have also heard of somewhere near Roma Texas and open to any and all suggestions and or Ideas.

Thanks in advance

RearWindow
01-09-04, 03:26
To add to SunDevil RN's post about providers and kids, he is dead on.

Nearly everyone I have met with ninos has mathed out to about 16 or so with their first. And interestingly enough, one or two thereafter is not at all uncommon.

I have gotten to know one woman in CJ lately, around 26 yo, and the question came up as to whether I had any kids. I told her no, which did surprise her, and after a few moments, she who already has two and is unmarried, intimated that she wants to have ANOTHER baby.

I don't think she's nuts, it is just that important to the women. Now why they would do that without the security of another income (ie husband) does leave me wondering a bit.

Perhaps I will never understand.

Soaring Eagle
01-10-04, 02:30
Daiblo Mactavish makes an interesting point about age discrepancies in Latin AMerican couples. I've worked in Venezuela, Mexico and Brazil and the pattern he observed is correct. Normally, men who get themselves established after years of hard work then find they are able to afford a wife and end up marrying someone much younger, because that's what's generally available. Dating patterns tend to be similar.

I found as a "foreigner" (gringo), I was sought out by younger women because they recognized I would be earning an "ex-pat" income that would, in their terms, provide a level of security they would welcome. Worked the same with casual dating and finding providers.

Sam Miami
02-01-04, 14:53
I had the great good fortune of living within driving distance of TJ for a few months. I can't begin to express how much I miss not only Adelitas (que marvela!!) but the whole streetwalker scene there. Is there ANYPLACE in Mexico or elsewhere (short of Amsterdam or Thailand) that is anything like TJ? Juarez isn't even a dim second.

Wizzywig
02-25-04, 15:50
I asked this question in the Central Mexico forum as well, but as it is not very active, am hoping folks will see this here.

Here is a question to all in this forum, which by the way, is truly awesome. I have not seen anything recently on Puebla and will be there for business in the next few months. I have little spanish and hoping for up-to-date details on Puebla. Especially interested in whether the Manhattan (another clubs or places that are also quality) has rooms on the premises and if there are equally hot women in the Puebla clubs, massage parlors. I want to be experimenting for the full week, so all kinds of clubs and bordellos are fair game, so any info is greatly appreciated. I am looking for young hotties rather than the older women, although sometimes.

Any feedback is most appreciated.

Wizzywig
02-25-04, 17:39
Here is a question to all in this forum, which by the way, is truly awesome. I have not seen anything recently on Puebla and will be there for business in the next few months. I have little spanish and hoping for as many up-to-date details on Puebla. Especially interested in whether the Manhattan (another clubs or places that are also quality) has rooms on the premises and if there are equally hot women in the Puebla clubs, massage parlors. I want to be experimenting for the full week, so all kinds of clubs and bordellos are fair game. I am looking for young hotties rather than the older women, although sometimes.

Any feedback is most appreciated.

Wizzywig
02-25-04, 19:24
Has anyone been to Puebla? If so, please share your experiences and recommendations. Any guidance on best approach and whether and how to take girls from clubs, clubs with rooms on the premises, or have them come to your hotel, reasonable costs etc.

Thanks for any feedback.

Joe Driver
03-05-04, 03:59
From US embassy in Mexico:

In some instances, Americans have become victims of harassment, mistreatment and extortion by Mexican law enforcement and other officials. Mexican authorities are concerned about these incidents and have cooperated in investigating such cases. However, one must have the officer's name, badge number, and patrol car number to pursue a complaint. Please note this information if you are ever involved with police or other officials. In addition, tourists should be wary of persons representing themselves as police officers or other officials. Request evidence that any such people are in fact who they claim to be.

Consulate Nuevo Laredo
Allende 3330,
Col. Jardín
Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas 88260

Phone: (867) 714-0512
Fax: (867) 714-7984

Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. / 1:30 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

Principal Officer: Thomas Armbruster

Also found: Concerned U.S. citizens may contact the U.S. Embassy or any U.S. consulate to discuss precautions that they should take. Four Americans were kidnapped in separate incidents in Nuevo Laredo during the Spring and Summer of 2002.

CRIME IN BORDER CITIES: Visitors to border cities such as Tijuana , Ciudad Juarez, Nuevo Laredo, and Nogales should remain alert and be aware of their surroundings at all times. Visitors are very vulnerable when visiting the local "red light districts," particularly if they are departing alone in the early hours of the morning. Municipal and traffic police are aware of the danger and regularly check the area for persons carrying weapons or drugs and for drunk drivers. Nonetheless, Americans can still fall victim to crime in these districts. In Ciudad Juarez, there has also been a rise in automobile accidents in which municipal police extort money from U.S. citizen victims.

Just various comments I found on these US Embassy, and US consulate internet websites, pertaining to Mexico, and Nuevo Laredo.

Joe Driver

Dash
03-14-04, 19:03
Re: Age differences, kids, mexican girls.
Diablo, Sun Devil, Rear Window are correct. I lived in mexico when only 26 and high school girls were coming on to me. I was a bit shy or had a problem with the age difference, but they didn't! Since then, I return frequently, and have been dating (having sex) girls 25 years younger than I. My last one was 22 years younger. Using a 100 mg viagra broken in half had amazing results! I am very youthful appearing for my age (like John Edwards without the millions), but the girls don't care when they find out the age difference. I had a girlfriend who was 18 when I was 43. I recently dated a TJ girl 25 years younger here in CA. She was drinking and it slipped out that she has a kid back home, she must have had it when she was only 17 or so. She wants another one within 10 years.
Mexican guys will frequently refuse condoms, the sex act is not a time when a girl can start suddenly asserting herself. The only reason I have heard for ANY mexican man to use a condom is because he is concerned with catching a disease from the woman. Mexicans enter easily into marriage and children, and sometimes the marriage is strange to us, with both partners cheating but maintaining the home life for reasons of convenience and necessity. There were many married women I could have fucked in mexico if I desired, but I was always "evitando problemas"=avoiding problems. There are so many single moms (note: 50% of mexican marriages dissolve also!) down there it was simply impossible not to be hit on while going about your daily business.
My spanish is excellent so that perhaps helps, also, being fair with blue eyes seems to really count for a lot in the appearance area.
Re: Money issues. In case readers didn't know this, money and power or position etc is an actually an aphrodisiac to women, they can't help it. To us, madeleine albright is a hag and even with millions untouchable. But, Henry Kissinger was getting some hot girls in his heyday, although old and a toad. Women like youth, appearance, and money in their men, but will often compromise one for another attribute. Have all three and you will be simply irresitible to women, moreso in poor countries like mexico.
Suerte con las chicas,
Dash

Sun Devil
03-15-04, 03:13
Dash wrote that "Mexican guys will frequently refuse condoms, the sex act is not a time when a girl can start suddenly asserting herself. The only reason I have heard for ANY mexican man to use a condom is because he is concerned with catching a disease from the woman."


All the more pertinent that we cover ourselves when having sex with these women. I have been told that they assume that putting on a condom indicate that you don't really love them. Having sex with them bareback shows that you really like them or that you are a couple in love. Another cultural difference between the US and Mexico.

RearWindow
03-18-04, 03:40
The condom comment is very interesting. My top 3 chicas all tried to get me sin condom, basically by getting on top of me during foreplay. And all 3 succeeded at times, but I was able to clear my other head after some welcoming strokes and grab a jimmie before we got too far along..mostly because I trust them to be clean. And they are. On my other travels I wouldn't dare not use a condom.

I'm going to raise a subject here that may [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) some off, but I think it is a real problem with the Mexican culture.... and that is quinceanos (sp?). I've been asking women who I meet about various details of their lives. Notably ,when did you get that tattoo, when did you have your first nino,etc. Invariably, that occurred around 16 or so. (i know that quinceanos is the 15th bday) I believe that the quinceanos is a real problem for the girls because it is a celebration of their womanhood, and that they then make decisions or act upon impulses (at a young age for we Americans) that place them in the economic straits we find them in. "I am a woman, " family is status etc. I find this easier to try to argue vocally, rather than in type, but I welcome all responses about this. Let me know if I am off base here...but I don't think I am.

Dash
03-20-04, 07:47
Re: Quincenera.
Rear window made an interesting observation. The custom of celebrating a girl's 15 yr. birthday is actually Aztec, and still practiced today. Originally, it represented the girl becoming marriage age, and today it represents a girl becoming a woman.
But, frequently rural people in many cultures marry young to begin to have sex.
I have often met girls in mexico who had several children and they were only 19. I have dated a girl here in california from TJ who is 25 and has one or more children, kept secret from me of course.
Let's face it, whether considered legal, a 15 or 16 year old girl is a young woman and perfectly capable and willing to have sex and children.
Have fun
Dash

RearWindow
03-23-04, 01:10
OK, I am full of questions. Can someone please tell me why Mexicans (in general) will not smile for posed photos. I have all of these serious looking pix of mis amigas y amigos there. I'm sure it's traditional, but I would like to know the actual reason, if anyone knows.

Pecker Will
04-02-04, 22:11
It's because they have poor teeth. No foolin.

LvLatinas
04-06-04, 06:17
I've been reading all the posts in the general and living in mexico section and would like to get some feedback from the group. I'm interested in meeting a Mexican woman for a relationship. I've tried meeting hispanic women here in Tucson but it's harder than it should. Tucson is 1/3 hispanic - it shouldn't be that difficult.

Ideally I would like to meet a single/divorced/widowed woman. Prefereably with black hair, dark features (busty would be nice) and no kids. Age 30-40. Not fat, not skinny, but easy on the eyes. I'm not looking to rescue someone or try and convert a SW.......just looking for an average woman.

I've thought about doing volunteer work in Nogales, but have not been able to locate an agency to contact. Extended weekends are quite feasible, but it's not like I can ask the concierge where to look either.

Volunteer work seemed like a good way to gain some trust of a local person and build from that, but Mexico does not seem to welcome the Peace Corps or other organizations.

Are there any cross-border groups or something similar that I could contact?

Dickhead
04-06-04, 16:39
Actually Bush and Fox recently signed an agreement that will send Peace Corps volunteers to México for the very first time, although not in large numbers.

Border Rat
04-07-04, 01:55
"Ya paso el tren." It's an old Mexican saying. The train has already gone by. That is what is preached to young Mexican girls when they are single and 18. She has already missed out on life. Combine that with 24 hour a day fairy tale novelas, amorous suitors promising the world to get in bed with them, and voila, you get yet another single mom.

I agree that the quinceanera has outlived its usefulness. It's one of the many antiquated and useless customs that the Mexicans still perpetuate into their daily lives. Sure, we should have 6 kids, "SI DIOS QUIERE", because that is what our parents did. La Raza. We have to keep the race alive. Like it's in jeopardy of dying out. Too funny. But its a bigger drain on their economy (and therefore ours) than anything else. That's not funny.

I love Mexico. I have lived there, and visit regularly. I don't force my opinions on them. But to think their culture is as cerebral as ours is being way too optimistic. Plain and simple, they live for today. Why plan for tomorrow if you're not sure it will be granted? Which gets me to my point:

As another poster wrote, if you are dating a Mexican girl and pull out a condom to use, she will take that as an insult. Of course she is clean, never mind the 10 guys she has been with (Mexican virgin). And those guys were doing 3-4 girls a week while dating her (or they weren't men, right? right!) None of them used condoms, I guarantee you.

As far as bar girls not using condoms, I've done quite a few without using one. I'm really picky, but thats no excuse. I would venture to guess that most of the posters on this board have done the same, or would. So assume that if she does you without one, she's probably done me without one too.

Sorry for the rant....BR.

Sun Devil
04-14-04, 01:05
An interesting thing happened to me this past Easter Sunday. I was at a sushi bar in the Pronaf section of Juarez, Kinsui, which is near the Futurama mall.

Now this place would be considered very expensive in Mexico but to Americans it just has normal prices. For you sushi fans, on Sundays and Mondays, from 1:00 pm to 4:00 pm, the restaurant has an all you can eat buffet for $11. Liking sushi myself, needless to say, I was there for a few hours.

Being by myself, I began talking to my waiter and we ended talking about our favorite subject, Mexican women. He indicated that Mexican women are easy to get into a relationship because the culture holds it very important in getting married and having a large family. Also it is present oriented, unlike European and US societies, which are more future oriented. As a result, Mexicans like to have fun now rather than saving for the future.

The gist of our conversation is that a single man with money can have a lot of fun with chicks in that country. I guess this holds true everywhere in the world. I asked him what qualities do Mexican women like the most in a man, for example, looks, good clothes, or buffed muscles. He indicated that to a Mexican woman it is money.

I hinted that I make more than $30,000 annually, a figure I chose since it is, in my opinion, based on reports by the popula media, as the average US salary. He hinted that I could live very well on that amount of money in Mexico and that I would have women after me on a consistent basis.

Thus, in his opinion, whether you are old and fat, as long as you have a decent income, you can generally score with a hot looking Mexican chick. He cited the Mexican singer and actress Thalia, who is married to a fairly average looking guy named Tommy Matolla, who is head of Sony Music, and the ex-husband of Mariah Carey, as an example. Granted, this is a bad example, since we are talking about a very powerful man in the music industry; nonetheless, it does show that money is an aphrodisiac to women universally.

After this conversation, I started talking to a middle aged Mexican woman sitting at the next table. She was waiting for her niece, a 20 year old law student. She asked me how old I was, where I was from and what I did occupationally. She started asking me whether I was married and had any children. Afterwards, she questioned me on whether I like to dance.

Needless to say, she was in the process of trying to hook me up with her niece. I, a total stranger from a different country, who spoke Spanish with an American accent, was being induced by an obviously upper middle class Mexican woman to go out with her niece. I guess it helped that I tend to wear nice clothes, shoes and expensive watch, such as on that day.

Soon afterward, her niece came into the restaurant. She dressed sort of like a granola chick but nonetheless was pretty in an exotic kind of way with long curly dark hair. To make a long story short, I ended up going clubbing with her that night at Vertigo, a club near, if I am not mistaken, Ignacio Mejia and Lincoln.

The conclusion of this story is that Mexican women, I guess Latin women in general, have the concept of looking for love, rather than career, quite unlike the women in the US, as the major goal in life, regardless of social class. Thus, it is quite easy to get Mexican girlfriends, as long as you look fairly elegant and not slovenly, and that you speak a fair amount of Spanish. The grunge look has not quite taken a hold in Mexican culture just yet.

Moreover, if you are a foreigner visiting their country, they generally make the assumption that you are fairly well off, since the majority of Mexican people generally do not do a lot of travelling due to the cost. Therefore, as long as they do not act like jerks, most American men should be able to score fairly easily with Mexican chicas.

RearWindow
04-14-04, 02:31
Sun Devil, the most interesting thing to me is that there IS a sushi place in Juarez!!;).

My spanish is my achilles heel there. I'm trying, but I don't get enuff practice, and my job precludes any structured classes. So I use the car cd's etc. My oft travelling buddy has had amazing success just chatting up women in restaurants, similar to what you describe, but alas, I can't pull off such a complex conversation as of now.

Mill Just
05-17-04, 08:29
Hello everybody...Since I haven't done much mongering in recent months, I haven't had much to contribute. So, I'd just like to make a contribution based on past experience and general findings in Mexico. This idea came from several postings on
this board and several personal and 2nd hand experiences

HOW NOT TO GET RIPPED-OFF IN A MEXICAN STRIP CLUB

1) Always do your own research and know where you want to go before you get in the taxi. Relying on the driver is, at best, an iffy proposition. Never go to a strip club where the taxi driver enters the club with you. These places are clip joints and your bill will be doubled or more because the taxista gets a cut and you will pay for it. (This happens more in huge cities like Mexico City or Beach Cities like Acapulco)

2) Get to the strip club early. Most strip clubs in Central Mexico open at around 9pm and if you get there shortly after it opens, you won't see many or any girls, but you get your choice of tables and you can make friends and allies among the employees. You can also get a head-start on the other guy because you can see the girls as they come in and you might get first crack at them. You might have to buy a couple of extra drinks while you wait, but the benefits of arriving early are greater than the extra cost. (And if your contact happens to be in a management position, you may avoid paying the cover charge the next time you come.) The temptation is to arrive at around 11pm when the action really starts to pick up, but coming in at that hour may force you to take a bad table, a second rate girl, or worse, you might have to wait until there is an available table.

3)TIP.....Giving tips is the most important thing you can do to lessen your risks of getting ripped-off. Make friends with the waiters, security and other employees. Find out who is the one with the most pull. You can see this by observing the guy who is most confident, most charismatic and most active. Make small talk with him when you get a chance and tell him exactly what you want. He knows which girls give which services. He also knows which girls are rip-off artists. Tip this man generously (maybe 100-200 pesos) up front and tell him that you'll give him a similar tip before you leave if you are happy with the service. From my experiences, he will bust his ass trying to make you happy. One time, I was looking for a very specific service and the waiter brought at least 12 girls to my table to ask them if they wanted to do what I wanted. Also, tip up front (20-25 pesos)the man or lady who supervises the "private area". You'd be amazed how they conveniently "forget" that its time for you to leave your private room.

4) Buy a bottle or a bucket of beers instead of drink by drink. In the long run you'll save money and the hassle of having a waiter at your table every few minutes.

5) Be upfront, firm and direct at all times whil still being nice. Don't feel bad about turning away the girls thatapproach you. They won't get hurt and they probably have forgotten about you by the time they turn around. When you finally get the girl you want at your table make it clear what you want. If she disagrees, let her go. To avoid buy too many ladies drinks I always say, "I have a good amount of money with me, but I'd prefer to spend it on you and not on drinks." This lets them know that you aren't cheap or broke if you don't buy them many drinks and that they will still get their money even if they don't make money off the ladies drinks. Also, negotiate all prices and desires up front and in detail. A minor reluctance at the table will be a major problem in the private room.

6) Keep track of what you buy and what you have. Getting a bucket of beer or a bottle allows you to know exactly what you are spending and it will prevent additional charges that grow after every drink. (I once got a bill for 620 pesos for 2 beers and a ladies drink in a Mexico City club...by the way, I didn't pay)

7) Figure out before hand what you want to spend and keep that amount loose in your pocket. You will then know exactly how much you have left in your budget at all times. This will prevent you from spending too much money on a night out.

8) Finally, get phone numbers whenever possible. After hours service is almost always available. Keeping a list of excellent providers always gives you some sure things in case you have a bad night and can't find a good time.

These are almost all lessons that I learned the hard way. Many strip clubs will take as much from you as possible. A good, strong attitude and a few bribes will earn you enough respect so that you won't be ripped-off. Of course, even if you follow every bit of advice there is still a chance that you might have a bad experience, but these tips should increase your odds of getting what you want.

Generally speaking, I spend between 1,100 and 1,400 pesos for a night out at a stripclub. That includes my drinks, a couple of ladies drinks, a private dance and FS or a BJ. Not too bad in my opinion. All that for about 125 US dollars.

I hope I helped...Feel free to add to my list of tips. I'm always looking as well for a way to save a few bucks and get better service...

Take care and have fun....

PeterPaul
06-05-04, 20:20
Hi all:

This is very interesting about street prostitutes in Oaxaca:

www.isp.msu.edu/wid/papers/pdf/WP278.pdf

Hope you find it insightful. These women are amazing in all senses.

Peterpaul

Mystic Pimp
06-09-04, 20:34
Interesting posts in this section. I have a few comments:

-- Can anyone verify the legal situation about sex in Mexican strip clubs?

-- As far as Mexican women without kids that are 30+, that is a rarity. From my observations of the culture, most Mexican women of that age will have at least one teenage child by the time they reach their mid 30s.

Mill Just
06-10-04, 07:38
hi Mystic,

As far as the legality of sex in strip clubs, I'm not sure what the situation actually is, but I always assumed that its against the law since I'm always with my chosen girl, sneaking around to have sex in the private area. The girls give the distinct impression that they are not supposed to be having sex as they try to hide away from a window or remove as little clothing as possible. Of course, I've always had some sexual contact whenever I go to a strip club. I guess its like almost everything else in Mexico: Paper laws are just mere suggestions. However, I do know that while prostitution is legal, its illegal to run an establishment that benefits from sex workers. So, I always assumed that strip clubs try to hide the sex as much as possible since it would cost them a gigantic bribe to the Federales.

I agree that its extremely rare to see a Mexican woman over 30, without children. I've only met 5 since I moved to Mexico four years ago and one of them had Down Syndrome.

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07-01-04, 07:23
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RE to Mystic: Sex is illegal in striptease clubs.

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MonterreyDude
07-12-04, 04:29
Trim: Sex might be illegal in strip clubs, but it is done... maybe not on the high end classy and expensive clubs, but from there on down... it's a big YES.

Talosian
07-17-04, 20:25
Anyone know of any action in the Lake Chapapa-Ajijic area?

Spock

Bang Her
07-20-04, 00:46
I never know that sex in stripclubs was illegal. LOL. It seems its very legal seeing that ive banged dozens of women in stripclubs. You should note those women that wrok at stripclubs make their money from lapdances, dancing and getting a cut of the drinks men buy them.

Rabo Verde
10-24-04, 05:46
Americans tourists killed, mom-to-be left bound

ACAPULCO, Mexico (AP) -- Four gunmen abducted three U.S. citizens on a rural highway in southern Mexico, shot and killed two of them and left the third -- a pregnant woman -- bound and gagged, authorities said Saturday.

Reynaldo Valdez, a 22-year-old from Houston, was traveling with Miami natives Ashley Linn Diniger, 16, and Vanessa Burgos, 22, to visit Valdez's mother in Cutzamala de Pinzon, according to investigator Antonio Nogeda.

The three had left Cutzamala de Pinzon late Thursday when a vehicle carrying four men forced their vehicle off the road near Tierra Caliente, Nogeda said.

The gunmen put the Americans into a sedan without license plates, drove them to a nearby community and robbed them. The abductors later tried to sexually assault the two women, then shot and killed Valdez and Diniger at close range, Nogeda said.

They spared the life of Burgos, apparently because she was pregnant, but tied up her hands and feet and dumped her on the side of a road from a moving car, according to Nogeda.

Burgos was able to free herself and contacted police. Her testimony led to arrests on Friday of Isidro Diaz Pineda, Reynaldo Hernandez Ramirez, Francisco Velazquez Paredes and David Gaona Mondragon, all of Tierra Caliente, the state investigator said.

A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City confirmed the names and hometowns of the U.S. citizens on Saturday and said consular officials in the resort city of Acapulco were working with Burgos and the families of Valdez and Diniger.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/10/23/mexico.americans.killed.ap/index.html[/url]

Young & Restless
10-30-04, 19:19
I've been to Mexico numerous times (I can't really count them anymore) and I've been fortunate enough not to have any problems so far. I've never been able to figure out the U.S. Dept of State's "Information on Deaths Abroad of US Citizens" section. I know that a lot of people disregard travel warnings (I'll be the first to admit that I have), but this one is interesting. Go to this website, pick what you think would be the most dangerous country in the world and look at their death tolls. Look at it and then look at Mexico's death tolls. Mexico's death counts dwarf any other countries that I've compared it to. I would say that it is because Mexico boarders the U.S. but compare Mexico's to Canada's. I know another thing to be considered is the ratio of U.S. citizens that travel to Mexico versus the other country. I'm really not concerned enough about it to look into it any more than I already have, but I found it interesting. Here's the web site if anyone wants to take a look:

http://travel.state.gov/family/issues_death_01.html

Bbond
10-30-04, 19:28
I've been to Mexico numerous times (I can't really count them anymore) and I've been fortunate enough not to have any problems so far. I've never been able to figure out the U.S. Dept of State's "Information on Deaths Abroad of US Citizens" section. I know that a lot of people disregard travel warnings (I'll be the first to admit that I have), but this one is interesting. Go to this website, pick what you think would be the most dangerous country in the world and look at their death tolls. Look at it and then look at Mexico's death tolls. Mexico's death counts dwarf any other countries that I've compared it to. I would say that it is because Mexico boarders the U.S. but compare Mexico's to Canada's. I know another thing to be considered is the ratio of U.S. citizens that travel to Mexico versus the other country. I'm really not concerned enough about it to look into it any more than I already have, but I found it interesting. Here's the web site if anyone wants to take a look:

http://travel.state.gov/family/issues_death_01.html


Vehicle accidents and drownings seem to out number other means tho.

Prokofiev
10-30-04, 20:42
Y & R,

Yes, those are interesting numbers. You can see that there are are far more suicides, traffic deaths and drownings than homocides. Although quite a few of those as well. Why?

1) Far more Americans travel to Mexico than any other location. Yes, Canada gets a lot of tourists from the US, but how many people retire and move there? Plus how many ex-Canadians who now live in the US are going back to Canada compared to our Mexican population? I bet if you saw the names of the deceased, you would find far more Latin surnames.

2) Among tourists, I would bet that a larger % of those traveling to Mexico are younger, poorer and hell-bent on adventure or looking for trouble. Spring Break in Canada? No. Looking for drugs? Possibly in Canada, but more likely south of the border.

3) Mexico IS far more dangerous than the US or Canada, especially concerning accidents - be it cars, boats or construction. Just crossing the street in any large Mexican city scares the shit out of me. Driving around is only slightly worse. At least you are protected by a ton of sheet metal.

Sancho Villa
04-10-05, 17:05
Buyers Beware,

I thought it would be good to remind the members that a large percentage of the girls that you find in these clubs have lesbian/bisexual tendencies. To most guys that is a plus, however, if you begin a relationship with one of these girls - BEWARE! It will break your heart.

You can not compete with this! The urge is too strong. Most of these girls have not had a father figure around in their lives and have no idea what real love is all about. They have been raised by women, with women and have no idea what a loving male/female relationship is all about. Their fathers either abandoned them or they are in the USA working. What a shame! A whole generation of LESBOS!

That may sound good to some of you, but that sisterhood is stronger than all of us put together. There is jealousy, greed, and passion all rolled up into one. I know this first hand after three years with the same girl. I just wasn't listening. Denial is a cruel thing.

Sancho

tjmonger
04-19-05, 08:12
Can anyone recommend a good cheap phonecard to call mexico. Seems that the one I'm currently using (Senorita Bonita) likes to promise a lot of minutes for the first call, then they disappear after that.

On The Go
06-13-05, 17:21
I will be traveling from Bogota Columbia to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico on August 5 and returning to Bogota on August 12. Any information on the most economical airllines to use, and most convienent flight routes will be greatly appreciated, as I finding it will be taking me 2 days using Mexicana and Aeromexico directly out of Bogota.

Nibu Raphael
06-21-05, 02:05
Hi This is supossed to be the World Sex Guide but sometimes Mongers here do not go to other places around The world. One Example here is in The Mexico section a lot of other places should be listed but are not. I can not understand Why? Why There is no info or section on Toluca a big City like an hour away from Mexico city confuses me and Yes There is A Scene there but no one wants to really report it. The Same goes with La Paz In Baja California Sur which seems like a fairly large city but no reports on this city either. It Puzzles me why Cabo San Lucas has a Big XXX Scene when the population is so small. There is another confusion for me too in Southern Mexico no one reports on places like Merida Which had Reports in the Archives but nothing new now. It dissapoints me that no one makes an posts on places too South in Mexico like Campeche or Villerhamosa? Down in Chiapas there is a Big Boys Town in Tuxtla Guitterez Chiapas but no official reoports on this scene or even a section for this city here in the Mexico Section. Another One I do not understand Nothing Nothing on a city of like over 500,000 more or less Durango. I will try to make it to these places in the future but for now Can Someone post this info? Am I Crazy or just too Many Lurkers out there in this World? I hope someone can help out here in a good post back to Me,NIBU.

Nibu Raphael
06-21-05, 02:16
I agree PeterPaul Why no One Has Ever Made a Good Mongering report on Chiapas and especially the scene in Tuxtla Guittierez stuns me for sure. I heard The Boys Town there is quite good and good Action in For Streetwalkers also in Tuxtla. Oh Well Hope some one helps me on this,NIBU.
Cheers Nibu!! You are absolutely right. I am sure some of Mexico's best sex destinations involve the south of the country, particularly Oaxaca and Chiapas, that urgently need reviewing! I tried my best in the old forum to review the great streetwalker scenes of Mexico City and Oaxaca, but the 2000-2002 archives seem to be gone, and there is no way to repost them. Lets get back on the streets!

On The Go
06-21-05, 04:27
Nibu Raphael,

Your report is excellent but it is that way throughout the Mexican section with the exception being Nogales and Tijuana. Puerto Vallarta is a great city with a large number of people and tourism but you very rarely see a report. I am in the process of relocating there and will most definitly post some reports when I am there. Look at the size of Guadalajara and nothing. I was just speaking to a friend yesterday about the very point you are making in your report as it is so strange. Hopefully with your contributions as well as mine once I am relocated we can open up the Mexican mongering section to be active in reporting the scene.

Nibu Raphael
06-24-05, 02:35
Hi Guys How Is All going? I am thinking of Two Mongering trips to do sometime early next year when it gets Cold out here in Chicago. I was now thinking Why not hit Mexico starting from Baja California. I would of course do it from Tijuana or Tecate one night then if I would hit Tecate for one night see if I can Take a Bus That Shortcuts right from Tacate to Ensenada if not I would have to take the route back to Tijuana then Ensenada. I would then stay in Ensenada one night and probably the next day leave directly to Cabo San Lucas. Prty In The Cabo San Lucas Area for two days then off to La Paz And Then The Port Of Pichilingue off to Mazatlan by Ferry. I would then stay in Mazatlan one night and off to Puerta Vallerta for one night then try to hit Colima and Uruapan. Why no info on these cities that mystifies me for sure. Colima and Uruapan must have some XXX Action. They Are Metropolitan cities of 200,000 more or less I think. So Why Nothing there? Who Knows? I would also try to hit Manzanillo,Gaudalajara,Morelia,Toluca and of course D.F. Mexico City for sure. Then I would go up north hitting Pachuca First then Poza Rica,Tampico and off to BLOODY NEUVO LARDEO If I Survive That. I posted this info too in The Nibu in Peru Section someplace I lived before for 4 years. I would appreciate info on all this,NIBU R.

Nibu Raphael
06-29-05, 02:26
Jackson Why No Section for Southern Mexico that always stumps me? Why not also a section for Merida here? But seriously you should do that. You would have to then switch Cancun and Cozumel here. Then have a section for Merida of course and also Campeche and Villerhermosa plus a section on Chiapas State. Then of course The Other Areas Section. In Chiapas I know for sure besides Tuxtla Gutierrez there must be action in Tapachula plus Tonala for sure. I am not sure of San Cristobal de las Casas but The Other Places Yes Do Have XXX Action. Maybe Tehauntepec and Juchitan in Chiapas State have a scene too. Not Sure on that but maybe. In Quintana Roo on the border of Belize in Chetumal there must be a scene too. O.K. I hope someone can post some more info on these places.

Belgrath
07-11-05, 06:26
Always wonder when I'm down there and seeing the HUGE amounts of cash that the more popular girls make down there and know how money hungry and corrupt the govt is down there how the govt gets it's cut. The more popular AB and CC girls in TJ make US $100,000+ in cash a year and you figure it would be irresistable to govt taxmen. Does Mexico have income taxes? Never see anything taxed in Mexico, just paying bribes... Never paying any sales tax is so nice though I dont know how legal it officially is.. Also does Mexico have anything like welfare? I see so many desperately poor down in TJ and I wonder if they are truely in such dire staits and hungry as the beggers claim to be.

Dbros9
07-29-05, 17:08
What ever happened to the US section of the WSG?

Hi,

The USA Forum is where it's always been:

http://www.usasexguide.info

Thanks,

Jackson

Mill Just
08-06-05, 07:35
Hi Belgrath,

There are a few parts of Mexico where there are sales taxes. I remember distinctly a few stores in the Zona Rosa in Mexico City that charged sales tax. But, generally there is no sales tax in 99.9% of the country.

I've been living in Mexico for almost 5 1/2 years now and I've learned from my attorneys and various friends that there is no personal income tax for the average Mexican. Only business owners pay taxes (the ammount usually depending on how many employees they have). Also, you must pay property taxes and a tax called "IVA" for a few things like satellite dishes and vehicles I believe. Other than that, taxes as we know them don't exist.

Now, unless the hookers registered themselves with the government as a small business, they wouldn't pay taxes.

This sounds great with no taxes and all, but remember you get what you pay for. All street repairs are paid for by the citizens and everything, even the garbage truck, has its price. The water is dirty and free health care sucks. Also, to make up for the lack of taxes to steal, the government and police look to make up the differences at the expense of the Mexican people.

And there is a Mexican welfare system that is underfunded, almost invisible and crippled by the crazy, oxymoronic Mexican law: You must show a pay stub and proof that you own your house to get any sort of financial support!
Everbody I've known in Mexico gets paid in cash and if you had the money to buy a house then the gov't can say that you aren't really poor. Duh!

If it wasn't for the hot ladies and the great climate and the easy lifestyle, I'd be gone. ;)

Have fun and be safe,

Miller2K

Bbond
08-06-05, 11:26
Taxes in Mexico, shit it's quite complicated. Read here;
http://www.mexicolaw.com/LawInfo18.htm

Pecker Will
08-25-05, 05:03
I've made the move to MX recently. And prior to moving I did some general research on running my small telephone/Internet business. The thing is - with today's technology, no body has to know what I'm doing.

I have cell phone service that gives me local access to most of MX, to most of the U.S. and to some of Canada - all for $99 per month for 1,700 minutes with the benefit of rolling over unused minutes as well (Cingular-North American Plan).

I want to knock on wood as I say this, but I've got it made. As I said, no one knows what I'm doing. So I'm not subject to getting any licenses or paying any taxes in MX. Of course, I run a clean ship for U.S. requirements - I pay my income and payroll taxes, etc. I do my banking in the U.S. and have my business mailing address in the U.S.

Further, by setting up a corporation and having taken early retirement, I pay myself only $12,000 per year to keep my Soc. Sec. check from being diminished. And I take out a lot more money as a dividend. Yes, I have to report a large dividend on my income taxes. And I get no tax deduction on my corporate return for this dividend. But my personal tax bracket is not that high and my corporate tax rate is not that bad. So, I've got sufficient funds to do some traveling in MX and the U.S as well as taking care of my other personal expenses and my business expenses which are minimal.

If you have to hire MX employees, or if you have to work for a MX company or if you have to contact any MX gov't entities - good luck! It's a chore from what I understand. And if you try to hide something that is quite obvious, you are probably headed for some problems - maybe even being asked to leave the country. I don't know, I'm just speculating.

Anyway, if you can work a small internet business and use your telephone. I think you have it made. Good luck to any business venture seekers in MX.

Nibu Raphael
08-30-05, 01:06
Guys I posted most of my info on a Few Threads in tHE TJ Section and also in Mexico City. If anyone Wants to Monger with Me Then in December in Mexico. P.M. Me or Post back here.
Hi Guys How Is All going? I am thinking of Two Mongering trips to do sometime early next year when it gets Cold out here in Chicago. I was now thinking Why not hit Mexico starting from Baja California. I would of course do it from Tijuana or Tecate one night then if I would hit Tecate for one night see if I can Take a Bus That Shortcuts right from Tacate to Ensenada if not I would have to take the route back to Tijuana then Ensenada. I would then stay in Ensenada one night and probably the next day leave directly to Cabo San Lucas. Prty In The Cabo San Lucas Area for two days then off to La Paz And Then The Port Of Pichilingue off to Mazatlan by Ferry. I would then stay in Mazatlan one night and off to Puerta Vallerta for one night then try to hit Colima and Uruapan. Why no info on these cities that mystifies me for sure. Colima and Uruapan must have some XXX Action. They Are Metropolitan cities of 200,000 more or less I think. So Why Nothing there? Who Knows? I would also try to hit Manzanillo,Gaudalajara,Morelia,Toluca and of course D.F. Mexico City for sure. Then I would go up north hitting Pachuca First then Poza Rica,Tampico and off to BLOODY NEUVO LARDEO If I Survive That. I posted this info too in The Nibu in Peru Section someplace I lived before for 4 years. I would appreciate info on all this,NIBU R.

Svtlord
09-30-05, 17:28
there is no sales tax in 99.9% of the country.That's because 99.9% of the items alreay have the sales tax already included in the price. In the border regions, 70 km from the U.S. border, the sales tax is 10% and anywhere else its 15%

Death and taxes holds true in ANY country

Capt Ajax
10-05-05, 02:39
Here's some info you all might interest you.

Tue Oct 4,10:08 AM ET
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Half a dozen Mexico City prostitutes have been arrested for using eye drops containing a sleep-inducing drug to knock out and rob their clients, leaving at least five men dead, a newspaper said on Monday

One central city district has recorded 17 cases this year including five deaths from the drug cyclopentolate -- a muscle relaxant used in eye examinations to dilate the pupil and blur vision.

"Once they are in the hotel it seems they slip a substance into the client's drink. Our data shows that they are using eye drops," local prosecutor Fernando Lopez told the daily El Universal.

Mixing eye drops, which are not meant to be swallowed, with alcohol can create a fatal mixture for someone with heart problems, experts say.

One 39-year-old man who survived his ordeal and woke up giddy and missing his wallet, said he was careful not to let his drink out of his sight -- but unwittingly ingested the drug after the sex worker secretly applied it to her nipples.

Other victims of the ruse included a South African tourist and a government legal advisor, Lopez said, adding there could be many more victims who had opted not to go to the police.

Charles Hale
12-16-05, 19:29
Has anyone had any experience in algodnes?

Is it worth the trip there?

Tabolitz
04-01-06, 00:34
Can anyone give me so info on some matter. I recently moved to arizona, can anybody give some information on how to find a job in mexico owned by U.S. Corporations. Basically, I want work in Mexico sponsored by American Business owners. If they are some sites you can refer that would be great.

Thanks

Munch Lunch
04-18-06, 03:16
I travel to Mexico for buisness a lot and post in the Mexico City, Tijuana and Guadalajara forums. But will have a week free and want something different. Namely, a nice clean, colonial city with lots of inexpensive chicas and maybe a university too. I prefer SWs, brothels (casas de citas), MPs and nonpros. I'm too old for the loud strip clubs and generally too cheap for the high class call girls. I am bi-lingual, read all the forums here, bought some travel books and would like you suggestions. Of the colonial cites, which is the best for mongering?

I am trying to narrow it down from the following short list: Oaxaca, Puebla, Merida, Xalapa, Queretero, Morelia, etc. Given what I am looking for do you guys have any preferences? Please feel free to send me a private message if you want.

Gracias, ML

MonterreyDude
04-21-06, 08:29
Munch, you are opting for a nice stay in our country, restfull and without a girl.
The colonial type towns are extremely conservative. Make it midnight, 1 am tops and everyone goes to bed.
Universities can only be found at the state capitals.
And there is one thing to have in mind: the further South from the border into Mexico, the more expensive the girls get.
The more you distance yourself from the border AND the big cities like Guadalajara, Mexico City and Monterrey, you'll find less and less action, less girls, less quality.
Of course there are exceptions, but the price will be higher than the average at the border towns.
NonPros: that is another story. Many ladies will fall for an American. Where to find them at a conservative colonial town? that is the question.
And am not mentioning here the sea resorts... expensive, of course.
And also, the more you go South from Mexico City... you'll find siltch.
Sorry Munch, but that is the general idea in Mexico...


I travel to Mexico for buisness a lot and post in the Mexico City, Tijuana and Guadalajara forums. But will have a week free and want something different. Namely, a nice clean, colonial city with lots of inexpensive chicas and maybe a university too. I prefer SWs, brothels (casas de citas), MPs and nonpros. I'm too old for the loud strip clubs and generally too cheap for the high class call girls. I am bi-lingual, read all the forums here, bought some travel books and would like you suggestions. Of the colonial cites, which is the best for mongering?

I am trying to narrow it down from the following short list: Oaxaca, Puebla, Merida, Xalapa, Queretero, Morelia, etc. Given what I am looking for do you guys have any preferences? Please feel free to send me a private message if you want.

Gracias, ML

Mill Just
04-27-06, 09:12
Hi Munch. I opted for a colonial city and I never went back to the States.

The Colonial Cities are the best bet for a mature man who only occasionally partakes in our hobby. They are safer and much less expensive than the larger cities. The real Mexico experience is to be had in these cities. Not to take anything away from Monterrey, Guad. and the DF, but life is just a little bit sweeter there.

Obviously, if you've read any of my posts, I recommend Morelia. It's a bit off the beaten tourist path, so there aren't any tourist scams yet to be seen and you probably won't come across any ugly Americans- just artists, architects and students. The city itself is beautiful- especially the historic Colonial downtown area. The people are as nice as can be and they have a certain sense of sophistication and open-mindedness that is sometimes hard to find in Mexico. There are TONS of beautiful women in Morelia because its a college town and they are pretty much approachable.

Mongering-wise, Morelia can't compete with a place like Monterrey, but I rate it much higher than the other Colonial cities like Guanajuato and Oaxaco where there is literally next-to-nothing to choose from. There isn't much of a MP scene in Morelia, but the escort services are solid and the SW-scene is OK and amateur actions is most definitely to be had. There are also private escort, semi-pro clubs that have popped up, but I don't have any first-hand knowledge of them.

I'm also not much of a club guy and I find the escort services to be a better deal in the long run. You can get an escort here in Morelia for between 400 and 1200 pesos with quality not necessarily related to price (Just be prepared to stand firm and send a girl or two back). The working girls are also extremely "Girl-Friendy" and its common to make side deals with the escorts outside of the agency. It's very common for me to hang out with the girls after our "dates" to go dancing or to a concert at no extra cost. (This may be one of the few relatively large cities in Mexico where the girls are still impressed by the fact that we're American.)

So, I would recommend Morelia for your trip. The city is gorgeous and the people are very friendly and helpful. The mongering scene is good, but its not a pus*y-factory like at the border or in other large cities. If you want to get laid 3 times a day and have orgies and threesomes all week Morelia is not the right place to go, but if you want to get laid while being in a relaxed, safe and sophisticated environment Morelia is for you.

I swear I do NOT work for Morelia's department of tourism. I'm just in love with the place!

Be Safe,

Miller2k

Vagringo2
12-17-06, 02:29
Does anybody know where the last donkey show in Mexico is?

Mill Just
01-02-07, 22:50
I was recently presented with a unique business opportunity and I need some info on the following company: Caribbean Corp. SA de CV (Elite Escorts Management).

I would appreciate hearing about any info you have on this company. Answer me here or PM me.

I will let you all know why I want to know this after I cross a few T's and dot a few i's.

Thanks in advance, brothers.

Country John
01-03-07, 18:28
I was recently presented with a unique business opportunity and I need some info on the following company: Caribbean Corp. SA de CV (Elite Escorts Management).

I would appreciate hearing about any info you have on this company. Answer me here or PM me.

I will let you all know why I want to know this after I cross a few T's and dot a few i's.

Thanks in advance, brothers.

Are you Mexicano? How much do you know about Mexico Corporations Law? Are you being asked to put money in?

Country John

Mill Just
01-03-07, 19:20
No I'm not Mexicano, but I was offered the opportunity through my attorney and, without saying too much, it would involve very little monetary investment on my part. I just wanted to know if it would even be worth the time I would have to invest.

Being horny on my part, I'm just thinking about getting some cheap action. ;)

Country- As one of the most knowledgeable skirt-chasers in Mexico, do you have any 1st or 2nd hand knowledge of this company?

Mill Just
01-06-07, 06:03
Hi guys,

After spending some time with my favorite stripper/escort here in Morelia, I was told by her that there was a guy going around claiming to be a writer for "The International Sex Guide." I've also heard first-hand of someone from this board using that line in Mexico City.

Whoever is doing that...PLEASE stop it! These girls get curious and go on-line to see for themselves and they are NOT happy about it. Most "working girls" are in the closet about their profession and are terrified that they may be "outed."

In my most desperate times early on in my life in Mexico, I had been tempted to use that line to try and squeeze better service out of an "iffy" worker, but have resisted. This line does not make the girls happy or more eager to please- it makes them scared and more likely to jack up their prices for the risk involved.

So, please, brothers, don't mention this forum when you are mongering. At best, it has no effect on the girls and at worst, you may be ruining the flow of all future mongers.

Thanks

Country John
01-19-07, 00:51
No I'm not Mexicano, but I was offered the opportunity through my attorney and, without saying too much, it would involve very little monetary investment on my part. I just wanted to know if it would even be worth the time I would have to invest.

Being horny on my part, I'm just thinking about getting some cheap action. ;)

Country- As one of the most knowledgeable skirt-chasers in Mexico, do you have any 1st or 2nd hand knowledge of this company?

No first hand experience, I have two friends in the business in TJ though so I know a bit about it generally speaking.

The words "never invest more than you are willing to lose" has never been truer than investing in Mexico. Seriously.

In the sex trade, I would only trust friends that I know personally, not just for monitary reasons but because most of the big-time action is mob run. Mexico is no place to get caught up in that kind of action.

In Mexico, you must stay low profile in business. You can't flaunt wealth. One friend said to me that "it sucks being rich in Mexico." If you look like you got money, even if you don't have money, you could be over-exposing yourself to the wrong people.

I would be wary of any attorney who advises his client to get involved in a prostitution business, especially in Mexico.

So the rule I would follow is: "If you don't personally know the people you are working with, if you don't have a relationship with them and fully trust them based on that relationship then I would not get involved, especially in pandering where pandering is illegal. The legal system in Mexico can ruin you.

Country John

MonterreyDude
04-04-07, 08:01
I can tell you about the ATM's.
Depends on where you are going, but generally speaking ATM's are safe, unless you are prone for rippoffs... but during the daytime, on any large city (with the exception of Mexico City) you should have no trouble at all.
But like I mentioned, depends on where you are planning to go.



Hello guys,

I am new to this site, as you can see, but I've been lurking for some time. I have traveled to TJ and DR quite a few times; but never had any new info to post (only things that have been posted several times before).

I hope to have some new experiences this year that I will be able to post about.

Anyway, I was thinking of spending some time in Mexico and I had a few questions for anyone with experience.

If you cross on foot, how far can you go before reaching a check point? What do you need to pass the check point (I read a tourist card, can I get this with state ID/birth certificate from America)? How long can you stay on a tourist card?

Is it easy to stay longer than you should on a tourist card, or to stay an extended period without getting a tourist card at all? I spent months in DR on a tourist card that was only good for a short period of time with no problems. When I left, I just paid a small fine. Would it be hard to do this in Mexico? (I am a spanish speaking hispanic, so blending in is not an issue). If I were found to have overstayed my card while in Mexico, would that spell trouble?

Are there many safe ATMs throughout the country to withdraw money from a US account?

I thank you very, very much for your help!

Mill Just
04-04-07, 10:31
Howdy Blanche,

The only thing that you're required to have as an American in Mexico is a tourist card issued by the Mexican government. The maximum stay is for 180 days. Usually, they will just give you 90 days as a tourist and make you take out another card for the remaining 90 days when the time is up. But, either way, 180 days is the maximum you can stay on a tourist card.

A way to beat this is to just show up at the border and cross over. The tourist card is only a problem when your are further in country and want to fly to the states or if the Mexican migra catches you with an expired card. They WILL mess with you and you will be at their dirty disposal because you are in violation if the law. Once you get to the US border, however, you are free and safe because the Mexican gov't has no jurisdiction over you. You then only need a US passport to get back into the US.

One time, my tourist card expired and I decided to take a plane to Tijuana from where I live in Morelia and then just cross the border by foot. I then planned to fly over from San Diego to Las Vegas, but I got nabbed at the Tijuana airport. The Mexican migra were total assholes and tried to extort a large sum of money from me. I fought and argued and tried to pawn off an old press pass for a Mexican event as the reason I was in Mexico. I was there for a couple of horrible hours. Eventually they let me go, but not before I gave them a few bucks.

So, I strongly recommend that you stay within the law. Once you cross the border coming into Mexico there will be an office of Mexican immigration where you can get your tourist card. It's been awhile since I went through the borders at Tijuana and Nuevo Laredo, but I think the cost is 200 pesos (I'm pretty sure that they don't take dollars). If you don't get your permit there, you only have a short time to be in Mexico without a tourist permit.

Another option in case of an immigration emergency is to go to a Notary in Mexico with a couple of witnesses who will vouch for the fact that you crossed the border at such and such date. Take the letter from the Notary to the immigration office and they will give you a tourist card. This method is more expensive and time consuming and only recommended if you are in dire straits, stranded without a permit, far beyond the border.

Remember, though, that a US Passport is essential for all of this. With the passport you can get the tourist card and get back into the US. Without it, you better take some swimming lessons because you may have to swim across the Rio Grande to get back. :)

And with regards to the ATM machines in Mexico: Yes, there are plenty and they are safe. Only take out money from the ATMs inside a bank. HSBC, Banamex, Bancomer and Serfin are the names of the ones I've used. And the only problem I had with a transaction in 7 years in Mexico was quickly corrected within 24 hours. Also, a pretty beneficial exchange rate in our favor is taken into account when you take out money in Mexico from a US account.

Hope I helped. Feel free to ask any other questions.

Have fun,

Mill


Hello guys,

I am new to this site, as you can see, but I've been lurking for some time. I have traveled to TJ and DR quite a few times; but never had any new info to post (only things that have been posted several times before).

I hope to have some new experiences this year that I will be able to post about.

Anyway, I was thinking of spending some time in Mexico and I had a few questions for anyone with experience.

If you cross on foot, how far can you go before reaching a check point? What do you need to pass the check point (I read a tourist card, can I get this with state ID/birth certificate from America)? How long can you stay on a tourist card?

Is it easy to stay longer than you should on a tourist card, or to stay an extended period without getting a tourist card at all? I spent months in DR on a tourist card that was only good for a short period of time with no problems. When I left, I just paid a small fine. Would it be hard to do this in Mexico? (I am a spanish speaking hispanic, so blending in is not an issue). If I were found to have overstayed my card while in Mexico, would that spell trouble?

Are there many safe ATMs throughout the country to withdraw money from a US account?

I thank you very, very much for your help!

Roguesta
04-04-07, 15:36
If you are crossing on foot into Tijuana, there are no set check points. You can get a tourist visa, which is good for six months, for $22.50. You actually don't even need this if you are staying close to the border (within, let's say, about 75 miles). Just make sure that you have a proper, US government issued ID.

ATMs are everyone. Don't let anyone stand too close to you, looking over your shoulder, while you do your business. And, do not let anyone help you. Through sleight of hand, some have been known to pass you a similar looking card, and then walking off with your card and PIN. I don't know how they pull this off, but they do.

Romankh
05-30-07, 22:48
In your opinion guys, where is the best scene (country and city)in Latin America for sex tourism?

El Austriaco
06-14-07, 15:50
In your opinion guys, where is the best scene (country and city)in Latin America for sex tourism?
Of the countries I know, I would say Brazil (Rio), Colombia, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, El Salvador, in that order. Sad to say, pretty much every place in Latin America is better than Mexico.

EA

Bbond
06-14-07, 15:57
Howdy Blanche,

Remember, though, that a US Passport is essential for all of this. With the passport you can get the tourist card and get back into the US. Without it, you better take some swimming lessons because you may have to swim across the Rio Grande to get back. :)

Mill

This is not exactly true. A passport is not required for either a tourist card or re-entry to the USA.

For a tourist card, a birth certificate and some other ID will do.
Entry to the US by land does not require a passport, yet.

El Austriaco
06-14-07, 16:02
Depends on where you are going, but generally speaking ATM's are safe, unless you are prone for rippoffs... but during the daytime, on any large city (with the exception of Mexico City) you should have no trouble at all.
As someone who has been living in Mexico for more than four years, I can confirm this information. Almost everywhere, any major bank has at least one terminal that is connected to the Cirrus network, and many in-store ATM terminals are. Use both a US and a European card, never any problem with either. Never heard of ATM ripoffs or scams where I live (Querétaro). The only problem I have encountered is that Mexican ATMs many only allow you to withdraw up to the Mexican daily withdrawal limit (usually NMP 3000.00), regardless of what withdrawal limit your US homebank specifies.

EA

MonterreyDude
06-14-07, 17:52
As a Mexican living here for 48 years now, let me contradict you here only in the sense that as a Mexican account holder, the maximum daily ammount you can withdraw from a checking account or credit card is 5000 pesos (the term NMP "Nuevos Pesos Mexicanos" is like 10 years passé, Austriaco).
3000 peso limit is indeed for foreigners.




As someone who has been living in Mexico for more than four years, I can confirm this information. Almost everywhere, any major bank has at least one terminal that is connected to the Cirrus network, and many in-store ATM terminals are. Use both a US and a European card, never any problem with either. Never heard of ATM ripoffs or scams where I live (Querétaro). The only problem I have encountered is that Mexican ATMs many only allow you to withdraw up to the Mexican daily withdrawal limit (usually NMP 3000.00), regardless of what withdrawal limit your US homebank specifies.

EA

Mill Just
06-17-07, 09:52
This is not exactly true. A passport is not required for either a tourist card or re-entry to the USA.

For a tourist card, a birth certificate and some other ID will do.
Entry to the US by land does not require a passport, yet.

I was recently told by my immigration attorney that the US Passport was a must, or that it will soon be. I know there's a new law coming into affect soon...any details on that and when the new law will actually be enforced? (I hear the date keeps getting moved up). In any case, though, its always a good idea to have your US passport up to date and with you whenever you're in a foreign country. If only just for the sake of convenience...what with all the bodily fluids and alcohol being tossed around, those birth certfictes get soggy real fast :)

Pinche Gabacho
06-20-07, 23:39
I was recently told by my immigration attorney that the US Passport was a mustYes, and your dentist just told you that your caries needs immediate attention. Part of good salesmanship is to create a sense of urgency.

Now, I'm not an attorney and I shouldn't even be allowed to play one on the Internet, but I do like to read things like U.S. immigration law and Baja California penal code at first-hand just so I'm not confused by the Internet buzz. I also live right at the border in Tijuana and cross all the time with nothing more than a California driver's license. My passport's been expired for twenty years because I've settled into fronterizo life and I'd no sooner get another one than vote for the Bush Family Wehrmacht.

Several posters have made the distinction between crossing the U.S.-Mexico border by land and by air or water. The underlying reason for this distinction is that the two countries have historically recognized the right of border-dwellers ("fronterizos") to pass back and forth relatively untrammelled. Most of us, historically, have had ties to both countries in terms of family, business, or real estate and we have been permitted to stay within the border region of the "other" country for up to seventy-two hours without the need for a visa or other special permission. That is still true for U.S. visitors to Mexico but, with the advent of the "visa láser", most fronterizos on this side of the border lost their right to cross freely.

The next distinction to make is in the nature of the passport. Traditionally, the passport served as internationally recognized identification for the purpose of entering a foreign country. The Bush Family Wehrmacht is trying to change that by requiring it for entry into your native country as well. Can they pull that off? I don't know. To do so, however, they will have to make an intrinsic change to well-established law, which is the sort of maneuver that precipitates an ACLU test case.

And, finally, just what are the requirements for a U.S. citizen to enter the United States? The last time I checked -- about five years ago -- one needed only present credible evidence of one's nationality. "Evidence" is when you say to the nice man "Murikan!" when he asks your nationality. "Credible" is when the nice man notices your clothes came from Target and that you look too whitebread to be One of Them. And if the nice man thinks you might be a bit too brown or a bit too yellow, you can always try to convince the nice man's supervisor. But a passport will trump all that because it is much more than evidence -- it is proof of both your identity and your nationality. If the nice man at the border can't demonstrate that your passport is counterfeit (or that you're committing a crime in his presence), he is required by law to welcome you home.

It used to be that the border guards were required to accept even an expired passport on the grounds that it yet proves that the U.S. State Department had been satisfied as to your identity and your nationality. That may still be true. When I went to the State Department website four or five months ago, however, I encountered ambiguous language in the interpretation of the new (2006 or '07 or '08) regulations. It's hard to say whether the "valid passport" they will be asking for is an unexpired one or (as previously) a genuine but expired one. It seems to me, however, that it will require a fundamental change in federal law to invalidate expired but legitimate passports as proof for admission into one's native country.

I will ask you to stay with me for one final step. Again referring to my visit to the State Department website four or five months ago, I recall it said that "valid passports" would be required for "expedited admission into the country". What does all that really mean?

I recall my quasi-friend the jackster (that was his monger handle), whose practice it is to become impossibly drunk in the Zona while carrying about a thousand dollars in cash on him. He crosses with a passport because he lost his driver's license from DUI convictions and he loses his passport along with his cash everytime he goes looking for some rough trade in the Zona. So, about every six months or so, he shows up at the pedestrian entrance to San Ysidro ever much the worse for wear, no money, no ID, and with only his good name to get him back into the country. They always let him back in even though he has to come in through Secondary.

So I'm thinking that, if the Bush Family Wehrmacht is still in power when the entry requirements change, we will still be able to get in on foot with our driver's licenses (unless the nature of the CDL changes in the meantime). The worst-case interpretation of what I've read on State's website would mean that CDLs will get shunted off to Secondary, confirmed with the DMV database, and then waved into the country.

The logistics of such a practice, at least at the Richard Nixon Memorial Port of Entry (the building at San Ysidro dates back to Nixon's administration), would turn every two-hour line into four hours and every four-hour line into eight. Bearing in mind that those lines contain thousands of people wanting to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in San Ysidro and recalling Woodrow Wilson's dictum that the business of America is business (also recalling the studies made by San Diego Dialogue and SANDAG), it's hard to imagine that our border crossing would become much more onerous than it already is.

But then I never imagined that the border crossing would have become as onerous as it is. To err you need a Democrat in office but to really screw things up it takes a Republican.

PG

Artisttyp
06-21-07, 00:06
I dont know if you've seen the news today but there was a mention that passport rules will not take effect till 08 due to the trouble they had this summer with people not getting them processed in time to travel. I read it on yahoo excuse me if there is a twist to the story. I read it very fast.

As with all news make sure you can verify it and I would say a passport would insure you less hassle and quicker immigration time.

Bbond
06-21-07, 06:27
As a Mexican living here for 48 years now, let me contradict you here only in the sense that as a Mexican account holder, the maximum daily ammount you can withdraw from a checking account or credit card is 5000 pesos (the term NMP "Nuevos Pesos Mexicanos" is like 10 years passé, Austriaco).
3000 peso limit is indeed for foreigners.

Not so Carlos, I have have withdrawn, as a foriegner, up to 5000 pesos in one day. But I don't think it was more than 3000 at any one time.

Dr X Man
06-21-07, 16:17
Greetings,

I was thinking of getting my teeth fixed and having fun along the way. Please share with me ideas. I heard a lot about TJ. Do you think this is the best city (closest, cheapest, ... etc.)? By the way I do not speak Spanish and this would be my first trip to Mexico. I am a major contributor in usa forum.

Thanks in advance

Country John
10-30-07, 05:32
Greetings,

I was thinking of getting my teeth fixed and having fun along the way. Please share with me ideas. I heard a lot about TJ. Do you think this is the best city (closest, cheapest, ... etc.)? By the way I do not speak Spanish and this would be my first trip to Mexico. I am a major contributor in usa forum.

Thanks in advance

There are many high quality dental shops in TJ that are one-stop shops. These guys know their stuff and are about 1/3 of the price. Many accept American insurance (they have affiliates State-side).

PM me for a link if you're interested. I have a lot of work to do, and I've been checking them out.

Like anything in Mexico, COMMUNICATION is the key. All these guys and girls speak English and most are USA trained, taking what they learn back to Mexico. I understand that Dentists actually make more money than MD's.

So let me know and I'll try to hook you up OK?

Country John

Pumphernickel
01-10-08, 06:41
I can recommend The American Bio Dental Cener (www.americanbiodental.com) in the Grand Hotel Twin Towers, 4558 Agua Caliente Blvd., Suite CC 1B. They have as modern equipment as any dental offices I' been to in the US. Your 1st viist for a cleaning (done with lasers, not the old pick type) X-rays (Panoramic - takes about a minute) plus the consultation and privce for the necessary work costs $50. They also have twilite sedation if you want to get it all done at once plus a discout on rooms at the Grand ($75 instead of $105 if you choose to stay).. I's a nice hotel w/ 24 hour room service and I had no problems bringing chicas to my room and they loved th upscale environment. Many of them speak fluent English. Check out their web site for much more information. Thier prices wre about 80% less than what I was quoted in the US.

Hope this helps.

Country John
01-16-08, 01:31
I can recommend The American Bio Dental Cener (www.americanbiodental.com) in the Grand Hotel Twin Towers, 4558 Agua Caliente Blvd., Suite CC 1B. They have as modern equipment as any dental offices I' been to in the US. Your 1st viist for a cleaning (done with lasers, not the old pick type) X-rays (Panoramic - takes about a minute) plus the consultation and privce for the necessary work costs $50. They also have twilite sedation if you want to get it all done at once plus a discout on rooms at the Grand ($75 instead of $105 if you choose to stay).. I's a nice hotel w/ 24 hour room service and I had no problems bringing chicas to my room and they loved th upscale environment. Many of them speak fluent English. Check out their web site for much more information. Thier prices wre about 80% less than what I was quoted in the US.

Hope this helps.

Great report, thanks for posting. What did you have done? Did you go for the big sleep? What kind of money did you spend?

Country John

Hobbyguy10
01-17-08, 22:45
Just wanted to know the latest update on requirements to re-enter the us from tj. I heard nothing else is necessary other than ca license until Jan. 31.

Can anyone confirm this? Can I get back in from TJ with just a driver's license?

Thanks.

Pumphernickel
01-19-08, 14:11
Great report, thanks for posting. What did you have done? Did you go for the big sleep? What kind of money did you spend?

Country JohnI actually had a great trip there that time. I was planning on going down on Mon., hving the work done on Tues and driving home on Weds. but was having enogh fun that I extended my trip to Sun.

I had Tania meet me in the hotel bar. We spent about an hour there before heading to my room for a nfew more hours of fun. She's a great gal and never having kids and living healthy she still looks great.

The next morning I had my work done. I only had the left side done because I still wanted to see what kind of work they did before I committed to everything. I had one broken tooth on that side and a number of old mercury fillings that shuold have been removed years ago and replced with non toxic ones.

Hell yea I went for the big sleep.I wasn't about to sit in that chair for four or five hours while they grond my teeth and it was really cool. They knock you out and then wake you slightly to make sure your fillings meshed all right then knock you back out, do more work, then keep waking you slighltly until the got every thing feeling right. I barely remember anything about the process, including going back to the room, but I had asked ahead of time if someone would help me with that if iI needed it and they said they would (though no special services would be included) so that's how I figurered I got back.

It's been awhile since i had that done (I'm a major procrastiinator), so I don't remember exactly wht I paid but it was about $1800.00 which kind of surprised me because I thought thatI had chosen the side that needed the least work but they told me that I had picked the siide that needed the most plus they do charge $100 or $150 per hour to bring in an anesthesiologist (it's the same price in the US) but it was well worth it as far as I'm concerenedI.

I do want to get down therer in the next couple of weeks, but I want to check out another dentiist that a couple said they had been going to for 14 yeous and couldn't speak more highly about. My reasoning being that Am. Bio Dental wants to yank one of my teeth and replace it with a "removable implant". The husband told me that he had a tooth that every one else wanted to pull but she was able to save it for him and I' rather keep mine if I can. Her name is Dr. Corinne Vizcarra D.D.S. and her webste if any one is intested is www.biological-dentistry-vizcarra.com (copy, pste and google that as the link seems to take you to a dfferent site for some reason) her phone # is 011-52-664-6-84-20-79

By the way, there seem to be a number of hotels in the SD area that offer free shuttle service to and from a number of medical facilities if one does't care to stay in TJ.

Pump

Pumphernickel
01-19-08, 14:49
I meant to ask you if I could buy you a beer and or a bite to eat the next time I'm down there if you're not too busy. I've' been thinking of moving to Mexico for quite some time now and thought you might have a few pointers that you could give me.

Pump

Steve Austin1
03-06-08, 05:51
Hello all

I hope this is the right forum to ask about transportation and drop off in Tijuana. First of all this will be my first time to Mexico, I will be staying 3nights in Mexicali to see some of my friends and 3nights in Tijuana then back home to Canada. I've already posted some questions earlier from another area. I hope you all can help me with this one. I'm staying at Hotel Catalina in Tijuana and the address is Emiliano Zapata, Zona Centro-Baja California. I'm taking a AUT INTERESTATALES DE MEXICO from Mexicali to Tijuana. Do you know where the bus stop and is it close to my area? I'd probably have to take a taxi right or can I take a local bus after I get off the 5. 5hr of driving? Your help is much appreciate please.

MonterreyDude
03-06-08, 21:27
Steve, you've been posting at the TJ section.
Why not drop this question over there?
Am sure they guys will be happy to help you out.



Hello all

I hope this is the right forum to ask about transportation and drop off in Tijuana. First of all this will be my first time to Mexico, I will be staying 3nights in Mexicali to see some of my friends and 3nights in Tijuana then back home to Canada. I've already posted some questions earlier from another area. I hope you all can help me with this one. I'm staying at Hotel Catalina in Tijuana and the address is Emiliano Zapata, Zona Centro-Baja California. I'm taking a AUT INTERESTATALES DE MEXICO from Mexicali to Tijuana. Do you know where the bus stop and is it close to my area? I'd probably have to take a taxi right or can I take a local bus after I get off the 5. 5hr of driving? Your help is much appreciate please.

Country John
03-25-08, 00:06
I meant to ask you if I could buy you a beer and or a bite to eat the next time I'm down there if you're not too busy. I've' been thinking of moving to Mexico for quite some time now and thought you might have a few pointers that you could give me.

Pump

I would be delighted to help you out in any way possible.

Precocious One
12-26-08, 16:00
www.321energy.com/editorials/wiegand/wiegand122508.html

Bad news for the peso and good news for mongers. 2009 is quickly shaping up to becoming a banner year for mongering in MX. $30/oil is very bad for many countries that rely on a substatial amount of their income from this particular commodity.

Big John 1
12-28-08, 03:26
www.321energy.com/editorials/wiegand/wiegand122508.html

Bad news for the peso and good news for mongers. 2009 is quickly shaping up to becoming a banner year for mongering in MX. $30/oil is very bad for many countries that rely on a substatial amount of their income from this particular commodity.
Experts perdict peso to remain at around 13 to 1 for 6 months or so,making prices 30% less roughly for us.

Precocious One
01-07-09, 01:56
Mutherfu_ker. I have got to get my a_s back into Mexico.

www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=e034ecd6633181483d29

Fu_k.

Precocious One
01-15-09, 01:30
www.elpasotimes.com/ci_11444354?source=most_viewed



"Any descent By Mexico into chaos would demand an American response based on the serious implications for homeland security alone."

Does this mean that criminal gangs and drug cartels are now considered Weapons of Mass Destruction?

Precocious One
02-14-09, 21:24
www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/02/10/business/LT-Mexico-Slim.php


So Mexico's Carlos Slim Helu, the 2nd richest man in the world who has the most accomplished advisers on his staff, is now predicting "unprecedented unemployment" for Mexico to levels in which "we have never seen in our personal lives". He is 66-years-old.

And the Mexican Treasury Department is forecasting just a one percent decline in GDP.

Incredible. Absolutely fuc_ing incredible.

Precocious One
05-15-09, 16:03
www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SIN234721.htm


This presents no problem for me as I have no plans on traveling to China to fu_k a Pan-Fry.

Or is it Pad-Thai?

Xxxplorer
05-20-09, 10:20
Should have been in Mexico City next week but trip canceled due to company policy. I was looking forward to this visit.

Looks like it will have to wait until September.

What is the situation like in Mexico City? If bars and night clubs are still empty it is best that my trip is canceled.

Precocious One
07-08-09, 03:10
Caliente is now offering lines on MMA

Thiago Alves +215
GSP -265

Mir +210
Lesnar -260

Bisping +300
Henderson -370

Fitch -405
Thiago +325

Coleman +310
Bonnar -410

Precocious One
09-21-09, 15:13
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-y2DGLHpVY&feature=popular

This is the exact reason why you do not want to be consuming a large amount of machismo while here in Mexico.

You have to be dumber than a box of rocks to want to fight a guy with a loaded gun that has just shot another man multiple times. This logic is worst than taking a knife to a gun fight. I feel sorry for the man's family but stupid is as stupid does.

I am noticing and hearing of negative changes in the low-end and now at the high-end here in Monterrey, Mexico. An armed robbery took place near my friends house (he lives in a very exclusive area) in broad daylight. By police accounts, the first of this nature in this particular neighborhood. From my perspective, things are not getting better and it is going to continue to get worse.

Be safe.

Scungo
01-20-10, 14:22
I was unlucky enough to buy a shitload of pesos a couple of weeks before swine flu. I would be prepared to take the hit on converting them back to GBP or Euros, but what is worse, the rates that you get from the money xchange here in Europe is only about 75% of the actual rate that you see if you go to xe.com or the like. Anybody have any suggestions? I am considering taking a trip to New York if I can get a decent exchange rate there, or maybe to Mexico itself, DR, or Brazil. Or maybe there is a monger out there who is going to Mexico and wants to buy them off me? I've got about 35000 pesos.

One Wing Low
02-04-10, 00:02
Talk to Felix Escobar or his brothers.

They have ways you can exchange your NMP.


I was unlucky enough to buy a shitload of pesos a couple of weeks before swine flu. I would be prepared to take the hit on converting them back to GBP or Euros, but what is worse, the rates that you get from the money xchange here in Europe is only about 75% of the actual rate that you see if you go to xe.com or the like. Anybody have any suggestions? I am considering taking a trip to New York if I can get a decent exchange rate there, or maybe to Mexico itself, DR, or Brazil. Or maybe there is a monger out there who is going to Mexico and wants to buy them off me? I've got about 35000 pesos.

Artisttyp
02-14-10, 06:22
Does anyone have any experience crossing from mexico's southern border into guatemala and back ? Can it be done in the same day like TJ ?

What did you see ? I read an article on "Tecum Uman" aka. Little Tijuana. I am pretty sure that it is on the guatemalan side of the border. Is this correct ? I can't tell from my map. My eyes can't focus on the dotted line too well.

*I am opening up a new can of worms. It includes Tapachula Cd. Hidalgo Tecum Uman Arriaga and other low life border town areas.

I've only done a little research. It seems like the action is centered around tapachula and the surrounding areas.

I know san cristobal. Mexico gets interesting when you get further south.

Can anyone add anything ?

Thanks
Artisttyp

Mushamisi
06-30-10, 02:52
I am interested in starting an MP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Mexico and other such places without running into the whole [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?
I have meet a few girls in the US but most at fast food chains etc anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.
I know that I can sponsor some for work in the US but again you need proof of qualifications. Also the marriage route can get sticky. I assume it helps to have a place closure to the broader but unfortunately where I am setting up is pretty far from close.
Again any tips or info please PM.

Rintoon
08-27-10, 07:05
I'm planning a 3 week trip real soon, just want to hit a really nice beach like I did last year in the Dominican Republic. Oh man, it was a BLAST. Stayed at Blackbeard's and couldn't have asked for a better vacation. And it wasn't just because of the ladies either. Location there was perfect. Quiet, not too many people, awesome weather, awesome beach at Costambar.

I'm wondering if there are beach areas like that in Mexico. I'm not really interested in running into too many tourists or really hookers. Just want to chill in the sun at the beach, maybe hook up with a nice lady or two. What are some nice coastal cities or beach towns like what I experienced in the DR, if any?

Much appreciated.

Blourghus
10-18-10, 20:38
Here is a new one, at least to me.
All Mexican nationals are assigned a national ID number called CURP. You can look up anybody's CURP online as long as you know their name and birthdate. The Mexico federal government maintains site to look this up.

http://consultas.curp.gob.mx
So you can look up all your girlfriends. I just tried it and it works.

Blourghus
10-22-10, 18:27
Has anybody ever encountered a Mexican lady working abroad in their travels?

In a bygone era, guys who wanted Colombian women, but were too scared to actually go to Colombia, used to go to Costa Rica or Panama to get with Colombian women, before the security situation improved opening up that country to the masses. I am wondering if a similar path will now happen to Mexico, to cater to guys who want Mexican ladies but refuse to go to Mexico.

We often hear about Mexico beach resort cities being the next step in the career ladder after the border brothels and interior metro areas (although I doubt that beach resorts in Mexico are particularly lucrative at the moment), but in MOST countries there is a step beyond which consists of working abroad . Why don't we see this with Mexican ladies? I have never met a Mexican lady working abroad, nor have I ever met a lady in Mexico who had ever mentioned previously working abroad (I usually interview them about their work history).
I'm thinking that Europe (I believe MX nationals can get to EU w/o visa?), Carribean, Middle East, possibly Argentina, would be logical and accommodating places for Mexican ladies to end up.I wonder where the type of ladies who used to be at the higher quality strip clubs around 5-6 years ago have ended up. They seem to have disappeared from Mexico so where are they??

Travel69
10-30-10, 04:06
I think Mexico is over price place thus the lady do not need to go abroad. Europe like german FKK is cheaper than Mexico.

Illini333
11-05-10, 23:34
What are people's opinion of the best border city to meet women?? Both pros and non pros??

Artisttyp
03-08-11, 03:25
I am doing one of my mexico runs. Starting in ACA then winding up in Cancun. I will hit the major chiapas cities and the southern border cities with guatemala and belize.

Shanjahan
03-16-11, 02:32
I don't know anything about mexico but I seen several travel agencies having vacation travels to Cancun.

There are good beaches I think thought I don't know. Look at wikitravel or search the net

Ramher
04-05-11, 19:46
When I went across to Nogales, everyone was selling viagra. Are these ligit? And does anyone know the cost of ligit stuff at the pharmacies near the boarder.

RamHer

Artisttyp
04-13-11, 21:29
Does anyone know what the luggage restrictions are for 1st class and executive class travel within mexico? I was able to find some information online but the reviews were varied.

If only one checked bag is allowed at 50 lbs. Do you know how much a second bag would be?

I have an oversized fanny pack and a little soft meds cooler for carry on. Any warnings?

I have also noticed that some buses now have wifi. How common is this and what bus company in northern mexico would have this?

Sorry for the boring questions. However I am sure more mongers want to know this as well.

Big John 1
04-21-11, 22:44
Does anyone know what the luggage restrictions are for 1st class and executive class travel within mexico? I was able to find some information online but the reviews were varied.

If only one checked bag is allowed at 50 lbs. Do you know how much a second bag would be?

I have an oversized fanny pack and a little soft meds cooler for carry on. Any warnings?

I have also noticed that some buses now have wifi. How common is this and what bus company in northern mexico would have this?

Sorry for the boring questions. However I am sure more mongers want to know this as well. If you tip the driver and bag handles fairly you will get it on rest assured do not worry official rules ignored. WiFi never sen it would like to for sure.

Xfactors
06-27-11, 23:33
Does anyone know what the luggage restrictions are for 1st class and executive class travel within mexico? I was able to find some information online but the reviews were varied.

If only one checked bag is allowed at 50 lbs. Do you know how much a second bag would be?

I have an oversized fanny pack and a little soft meds cooler for carry on. Any warnings?

I have also noticed that some buses now have wifi. How common is this and what bus company in northern mexico would have this?

Sorry for the boring questions. However I am sure more mongers want to know this as well. Http://gomexico.about.com/od/planningandinformation/a/bus_travel.htm

Noob415
12-24-11, 01:04
Hi,

I was wondering if I could solicit some travel advice for a noob. I just recently joined this forum, I've been basically lurking in shadows from time to time. I'm sure you guys get this question way too often but I've got to plan vacation and I could use some help with suggestions. If you could go anywhere where would you go to chase women? I have about two weeks, I'm single in my early 30s financially well off and I'm desperate for the three B's Beaches-Babes & Booze. Also if you have any suggestions for websites and referral resources please include them I could use all the help I can get.

Best Regards

Doubt98
01-01-12, 16:17
Cartagena, Colombia.


Hi,

I was wondering if I could solicit some travel advice for a noob. I just recently joined this forum, I've been basically lurking in shadows from time to time. I'm sure you guys get this question way too often but I've got to plan vacation and I could use some help with suggestions. If you could go anywhere where would you go to chase women? I have about two weeks, I'm single in my early 30s financially well off and I'm desperate for the three B's Beaches-Babes & Booze. Also if you have any suggestions for websites and referral resources please include them I could use all the help I can get.

Best Regards

Dickhead
01-05-12, 05:46
You might want to check this out:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19676407

I spent thirty years going to México and I lived there twice for about a year each time. I am not going anywhere in México at the present time. It is a gosh darn shame but the country is fucked right now.

Rippa
01-05-12, 07:51
You might want to check this out:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19676407

I spent thirty years going to México and I lived there twice for about a year each time. I am not going anywhere in México at the present time. It is a gosh darn shame but the country is fucked right now.Sorry, but if you read the full article 'Dick', you'll clearly see this murderous riot took place in a Mexican federal prison, a place the casual American Monger (or just plain tourist for that matter) is highly unlikely to ever be found let alone harmed in any way.

I, too, lived in Mexico for some time, and have always found the Mexican people to be overwhelmingly kind, generous, and patient to a fault with American 'Dickheads'. And don't even get me started on those beautiful Mexicanas. I've been to Mexico three times in the last year alone: Baja Sur, the Yucutan, and most recently Tijuana. (you are welcome to read my Field Reports on that wonderful place on the ISG) Like most places in the US, there are safe places and there areas of high risk. If you keep your wits about you, avoid the more sketchy border regions, and really follow the news, you will know that vast swaths of this country are statistically far safer than many parts of LA, Chicago, and even Washington D. C.

Mexico does have it's problems, no doubt, but don't believe everything you read in the funny papers over here. If you don't ever go, you are missing out on some wonderful times. But then again, maybe some of you easily 'scared children' SHOULD stay home. That just leaves more lovely Latinas for the rest of us.

- Rippa

Cuba Tourist
01-15-12, 02:23
Do you need a prescription to get viagra from a pharmacy in mexico?

Member #4353
01-15-12, 08:16
No prescription necessary for viagra or cialis. Just to go any pharmacy or Soriana grocery store.


Do you need a prescription to get viagra from a pharmacy in mexico?

Belldude2
01-24-12, 16:39
You might want to check this out:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19676407

I spent thirty years going to México and I lived there twice for about a year each time. I am not going anywhere in México at the present time. It is a gosh darn shame but the country is fucked right now.I agree with you totally. I got caught up in that reported scuffle purely by accident. I got back on my tour bus which turned out to be a prison transport going straight to the prison. I had to kill a couple zetas just to get out alive. Damn, I wish I knew spanish better. I could have avoided it all together if I understood what it said on the bus. Stupid American tourist mistake! Coulda happened to any dumb American. Right? Jejejeje

SirCharlie
02-13-12, 06:32
Puerto Vallarta vs the rest of the Americas.

Guys.

I've been here in Puerto Vallarta for a while and I'm bored.

I really don't rate Puerto Vallarta or the other places I have seen in Mexico as great options for what I am looking for as after 8 years in Thailand I am spoiled.

I want to do some traveling in Central / South America and my priorities are these:

Sexy massage (closest to the Asian experience of massage with HJ / BJ / FS on offer)

Good bars / clubs to pick up chicks.

Generally a good, fun, relaxed place with nice people and little attitude to foreigners

I am a novice to Central / South America as you can see but I do speak fluent Spanish (from Spain) so communication is easy and good for me and I do like some verbal foreplay before my physical foreplay if you know what I mean.

Any great recommendations?

Cheers,

Charlie

TheStrongest
02-14-12, 20:34
Do you need a prescription to get viagra from a pharmacy in mexico?Even if you did, you could pick one up for 30 pesos from a consultorio at any Dr. Simi farmacia.

CozDiver
02-15-12, 16:42
Hello all,

The Cozumel forum is very slow, so I am posting a general question on Mexico here. In doing my research on possible places to play, I ran across a few reports of waitresses at a few cantinas, bars, & restaurants being detained for not having health cards. My best guess is that that is a pretty good indication that they are working girls, but that leads to my question. In Mexico, do waitresses need health cards if they are not sex workers?

Thanks!

CozDiver
02-21-12, 22:13
Hello, all,

In Mexico, do waitresses need health cards if they are not sex workers?

Thanks!I found an answer to my question. Employees who handle food in restaurants, bars, and such must also have a "tarjeta de salud." It sounds like the food service cards are a bit different and stay current longer, but I was reading too much into reports of waitresses having problems because they didn't have their health cards.

The Hammer1169
06-29-12, 18:34
Sorry, but if you read the full article 'Dick', you'll clearly see this murderous riot took place in a Mexican federal prison, a place the casual American Monger (or just plain tourist for that matter) is highly unlikely to ever be found let alone harmed in any way.

I, too, lived in Mexico for some time, and have always found the Mexican people to be overwhelmingly kind, generous, and patient to a fault with American 'Dickheads'. And don't even get me started on those beautiful Mexicanas. I've been to Mexico three times in the last year alone: Baja Sur, the Yucutan, and most recently Tijuana. (you are welcome to read my Field Reports on that wonderful place on the ISG) Like most places in the US, there are safe places and there areas of high risk. If you keep your wits about you, avoid the more sketchy border regions, and really follow the news, you will know that vast swaths of this country are statistically far safer than many parts of LA, Chicago, and even Washington D. C.

Mexico does have it's problems, no doubt, but don't believe everything you read in the funny papers over here. If you don't ever go, you are missing out on some wonderful times. But then again, maybe some of you easily 'scared children' SHOULD stay home. That just leaves more lovely Latinas for the rest of us.

- RippaGood post! I agree with you. I have lived in Mexico for almost (3) years before moving back to the states, and eventually married a hot little stripper (been with her here in the states for 5-years) We travel all over to Puerto Penasco, San Luis R. C, Nogales, and Mexiclai. I have had no problems at all in Mexico with the exception of a few police shakedowns that even residents get. The families are generally very solid, people are nice, and no issues. Now, that's not to say that you don't need to be careful or use common sense. People that get hurt there usually are caught up in something they shouldn't be, or Americans get caught going through known maverick pueblos and get robbed. Always travel on the toll roads and stay away from the "free streets" as they take you into the little towns where the cops don't exist or are dirty.

A few bad experiences I had: I was in a strip club alone in San Luis R. C. And a waiter that was new started in on me "you want a girl? You want cocaine?" I told him no thank you, I was just having a beer. I look down next to me and he had laid a bad of cocaine. I told him "no, I don't do drugs. I live here and am just out for a beer. That's all man." So he gets up and walks away but I see him on his cellphone. Being pretty savvy and weary, I am now on high alert. Within 10-minutes this thug, and I mean a thug, the type you see on Mexcio prison documentaries walks in tattoos covering him from neck to finger tips, and with him is the most strung out looking girl you can imagine. Her eyes are crazyly spinning in her head. They talk to the waiter who gestures to me, and over they come. The girl speaks broken English "you fuck me?" Now, knowing she's insane as fuck and her pimp would rather stab me than look at me, I very gingerly say "well, I'm married. I don't know why he called you, but you are very beautiful." She starts getting squirly "you say I ugly! You think I ugly!" I know with every fiber in my body I need out of that place. So I pause a minute, and get up to go to the restroom. I get in there, and by the grace of God two other men are there, because I look in the reflection of the old broken down stainless steel hand dryer, and the thug had slipped in behind me and was waiting in the corner. I'm ready to get rolled and I know it. I turn and bolt right past him, straight out the door, and thankfully a taxie was there. As I was getting in, that thug came running out chasing me. I got out of there, ordered the driver to take a bunch of side streets before getting me home, and never went back.

Only other issues were the cop shake downs. My girlfriend, who I lived with there while we waited to immigrate her to the states, taught me to not pay them and instead ask for the ticket. They will threaten to impound your car and play on your fears, but just say "no, I will pay at the commadante." One time I got pulled over at 12:30AM and essentially the cops robbed me. He stops me and says "senior, you ran that stop sign." I look around, and there's no sign! Right away I know I'm getting shook down. While I asked the little cop "what sign?" a big cop got in behind me and put the butt of his semi-automatic rifle against the back of my head. At that point I simply said in Spanish "how much you want?" Ended out $20. 00 for each cop but I left with my head on my shoulders!

Finally, San Luis R. C. Cops are the worse. I had one pull me and my lady over. She is white Mexican with green eyes, and really little. 5'0 and 110Lbs. But very petite. She was 27 then but truly looked almost pre-pubescent except for her fake tits The cop starts in wanting $10. 00 for expired tabs; they can't enforce those laws, and threatens to tow away my truck. My GF jumps out and tears him a new ass in Spanish, calling him an extortionist Etc. He takes one look at her, looks at me and I'm 17-years older than her, and says "ok, you to jail for corrupting a minor!" Now, that was at a time when a man of about 70 and his adult son had been locked up in Algodones for two years over the same charge. Serious accusation. Just getting pulled into a Mexican jail on trumped up charges, they can hold you indefinitely because their law is reverse of ours. There you are guilty until you prove in court you are innocent. I look right at my GF and say "this time I want a lawyer. I'm tired of this." Fortunately the cop, who didn't look too bright, hedged. He was worried about his job. I tell him she is 27, and he ends out letting us go.

El Mojado
10-31-12, 09:44
Hey everyone in Mongerland! I am in Mexico right now and had a very odd experience trying to change $100 USD to Mexican currency. I posted this in the Guadalajara section, but felt the need to post it in General too.

I arrived on this trip to Puerto Vallarta and I had no trouble changing dollars into pesos at banks in PV and buying items at Walmart or Soriana with USD. Walmart would only let me use them to pay for things if the change due was 10% or less than the total amount spent. So. Spend 20 USD, the max you are allowed to get in change is 2 USD worth (25 pesos, roughly). Walmart had a better than the actual exchange rate, which was nice to know. And I haven't stepped foot inside a Soriana yet this trip, so don't know what their Cash USD issue might be, if any.

Once I left for GDL it seems that the big banks cannot exchange pesos for dollars. But they are allowed in touristy regions (like PV).

So, I went to Bancomer close to my friend's place and found out I could not change dollars there. I then went to an HSBC nearby and it was a bigger branch, but they couldn't change dollars either. The teller there suggested I go to a money changer and told me about one 2 blocks up the street. So there I went. Finally, I was able to cash my dollars and keep on Mongering along.

So just be aware of this. Especially if you are traveling with dollars only and no ATM card. My experience had me quietly sweating bullets for a bit and wondering how I was going to continue mongering without access to my money. But thankfully all ended well and I got to spend time with favorite gal from Danny's Estetica in Guadalajara! Read the Guadalajara posts for more info on that place.

El Mojado
11-03-12, 23:23
Hey everyone!

Some good news! I saw a bank that had the current USD to Peso exchange rate in the window and they were accepting dollars. I was on the bus returning from a mongering mission, with the tamale treat for all, when I caught a glimpse of a bank very close to the main old Church on Enrique Diaz de Leon, very close to Avenida De La Paz. The bank had the exchange rate of 12. 50 pesos to the dollar to sell your dollars and upwards of 13. 80 pesos to buy back dollars. I am running low on pesos again so I have to change some dollars so it was nice to finally see an actual bank I can do that in and not have to go just to money changers. But I have to say, it is the first bank I have seen that accepts dollars. I've been all over parts of central Guadalajara and to not notice this at any other bank has been very worrisome. So keep tabs on casas de cambio (money changing businesses) near your hotel or areas where you frequent if you need to change dollars. I'm not sure if banks are not accepting Euros or not. I don't have any Euros so I don't know. Money changers accept those as well as Canadian currency.

Artisttyp
11-27-12, 22:28
I notice that none of the hotels have heat. At least none that I have looked at online.

Are you guys freezing at night (Jan / Feb) or do the hotels give you enough blankets to deal with it? If I remember correctly I slept in my winter jacket and ski hat a few years ago. I am not sure that I am willing to do that again.

Thanks for the info.

Nibu Raphael
12-07-12, 05:24
Hi Guys,

I am down on funds again and need to see if the bank can give me a cash advance on my debit card from Bank of America. IN Colombia And DR I had it done but I could not get it I mean sorry DR No where would except in Santiago or Puerto Plata DR. IN Colombia and Peru all was cool. I need to find out if Mexico will accept on this. Any adavice on this guys?

OK Now on to a refund Copa never gave me back my 500 They won't respond to my e mails on the refund issue too when I call in to them they will then after telling me e mail them that refund paste I did that twice before when I did they never returned my cash too. Maybe I need to try to paste this once more other thing is maybe I can ask them to mail a family member the info somehow as one of my family members borrowed a credit card on their name or ask them to fax who did this. My trip that I cancelled was in Janurary. They said it was cancelled too. But no info for the refund at all.

This trip is in janurary only thing I can think is go to The Copa office IN Gaudalajara or Mexico city and ask. Was thinking Monterrey first but if Gdl gives me hard time I could then bus it to Mexico City and ask too.

My friend said just don't do it in USA at least in Latin America they can say its a traveler and give it back plus in USA Copa offices are only at airports. I'm thinking going to Gdl directly on plane from Tijuana to do this GDL don't help Mexico City would be the main office if that don't work I'm fucked or go up to Monterrey then try to fight this in USA calling them up more patience at home then I would need to go to Ohare Airport other choice would be continue on a big trip for a few months and ask Copa in Central America then again I might be screwed after Janurary.

If any ideas guys then PM Me or post back here.

Pss and yeh big info I need on the cash info advance un. Less someone can send me a Christmas cash gift then I might be saved.

I Wait here,

Nibu

BH Bound
09-02-13, 19:42
Is obesity a huge problem in the big cities in Mexico? I'm thinking of hitting Mex. City and Guadalajara for a couple of months. Looking for pro and non-pro chicas, since I will have some time to invest in dating girls I meet while I am down there. I'm referring to girls in the 18-30 years old range. I have the option to go somewhere else, but have never hit Mexico, so I'm curious to explore.

Thanks in advance.

Mongerman69
11-17-13, 16:07
I've been looking for a while at going to, Mexico, and can't seem to pinpoint the best spot. Where can a guy find the best options in value, selection, and accessibility, in Mexico. I've done a lot of reading on the this site, and others, and it's seems most of the activity in spread through the northern border towns and near Guadalajara. For those vets that have spent a lot of time there. What is the best pure mongering spot in, Mexico?

Artisttyp
11-17-13, 17:21
I've been looking for a while at going to, Mexico, and can't seem to pinpoint the best spot. Where can a guy find the best options in value, selection, and accessibility, in Mexico. I've done a lot of reading on the this site, and others, and it's seems most of the activity in spread through the northern border towns and near Guadalajara. For those vets that have spent a lot of time there. What is the best pure mongering spot in, Mexico?Tijuana. No contest.

Strike69
10-26-14, 21:13
Tijuana. No contest.Tijuana followed by Monterrey outside these two cities is hard to find quality pussies and decent prices.

BiaoBanwo
12-12-14, 04:25
As with all news make sure you can verify it and I would say a passport would insure you less hassle and quicker immigration time.

C Jack Sparrow
12-31-14, 09:30
http://www.keezmovies.com/video/busty-latina-blowjob-4868942

I think she is new, and seems to talk with an accent, can be a Mexicana, the art on the wall says Mexico or Colombia.

With that face and boy she can be a real star. Want to marry her and bring her to Europe!!

Yujin
02-16-15, 05:18
I had to chuckle when I read this article because the same thing happened to me about 10 years ago = the gringo surcharge.

http://seattletimes.com/html/travel/2025678329_mexicoscamtravelwisexml.html

Beware the gas-station scam in Mexico.

A traveler ends up paying twice for a tank of gas in LOS Cabos, by credit card then cash when the card supposedly didn't work.

By Brian J. Cantwell Seattle Times travel writer.

Even guys who write about travel can get scammed.

On a recent trip to Mexico's Baja Peninsula, I'the managed to avoid filling my rental car's tank until the final day when I was about to return the car to the airport. I figured I was better off minimizing the number of times I handed over my credit card to gas stations or any business since credit-card fraud can be common in Mexico.

Good instinct, it turned out.

On Baja's Highway 1, approaching the exit for LOS Cabos International Airport, I pulled my Nissan rental car into a Pemex station, showed the attendant my card I'm always careful to do this before they start pumping and asked for a fill-up, por favor.

The first hint of trouble was when I noticed a tourist, outside his car at the next pump, having words with another attendant. It seemed his credit card wasn't going through.

I soon heard the same message from the smiling mountain-of-a-man in gray coveralls who had just filled my tank: They couldn't take my credit card.

"But I showed him my card before he pumped the gas," I complained to the fellow working the cash register, whose English was a little better than my halting Spanish.

Sorry. The bill was 455 pesos about $31 USA Surely I had cash?

Well, no. At the end of my trip, having just come from a small town with no bank or ATM, I'the exhausted my emergency reserve of Yankee dollars (which are often welcomed in Baja). And I'the deliberately spent all but a few of the Mexican pesos in my wallet. My next stop was the airport; why take pesos home?

No cash? Really, seor?

I presumed at this point that they were just doing their best to avoid credit fees on the transaction. Cash is king in Mexico.

But this was right by the airport. Payment by plastic was surely no novelty.

Mr. Coveralls gave a big grin and swiped my card one more time, then showed me a printout that (presumably) indicated it didn't go through. I offered him another card. Same result.

Several other employees clustered around. A woman who looked managerial came out from the attached convenience store to punch buttons on the outside register.

"Would you have five minutes to go to a nearby ATM and get cash?" my English-speaking friend finally asked.

It was tough to tell if I was being had or whether they were legitimately stymied by technology. I momentarily considered speeding away in self-righteous indignation, but that raised the specter of an angry chase and a Mexican jail.

Luckily, I'the given myself extra time before my flight's departure.

I nodded and started to get in my car. "Oh, and he'll come with you!" the English-speaker added, nodding toward Mr. Coveralls, who was climbing in the passenger seat. In a parting shot, he jokingly admonished me, "Don't kidnap him!

Who could actually be kidnapped in this situation? The guy with all the credit cards, who had a large stranger in a nice new car and was about to draw money from an ATM? Red flags. Maybe I should have just called a cop.

But sometimes you have to go with instinct. My gut said these guys weren't menacing. And my passenger's stumbling efforts to tell me, with a dopey grin, that he had lived in California "Fresno!" didn't add up to danger.

We smiled a lot at each other. I made small talk about Fresno. I got 500 pesos from a machine, we returned to the gas station and I was on my way.

A couple weeks later, I discovered a 455-peso charge on my credit-card statement. I'the paid twice for my gas, both by credit card and cash. I'm going through the hassle of disputing the credit-card charge through my bank.

Was it a scam? Probably. The time pressure on travelers who need to catch a plane encourages victims to resolve the situation expeditiously. An innocent mistake? Possibly. If the perpetrators had really wanted, they could have rung up an even bigger bill.

But next time, I'm keeping enough pesos in my wallet to pay cash when I fill the rental car. It's hard to know just how much you'll need. If I have pesos left over? I'll buy a T-shirt at the airport.

BeirutEscorts
12-03-15, 05:58
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Punter 101
05-11-16, 20:03
http://www.keezmovies.com/video/busty-latina-blowjob-4868942

I think she is new, and seems to talk with an accent, can be a Mexicana, the art on the wall says Mexico or Colombia.

With that face and boy she can be a real star. Want to marry her and bring her to Europe!!She's actually not Latina. This actress is Anissa Kate, who is French and is already in Europe!! Better luck for you!

Gagoo
05-28-16, 09:58
She's actually not Latina. This actress is Anissa Kate, who is French and is already in Europe!! Better luck for you!I agree with Punter 101. That is Anissa Kate, and she is from France. She is on my top 5 list for sure.

She is half Arab though. I wouldn't believe Wikipedia, yeah she's on there, but on her Twitter someone asked, and she said this: at ahmed87 f I m half arabic and half french.

Look at this reply: at AnissaKate You are not arabic. How can you be arab if you are doing porn?

Chuday
06-04-16, 11:19
Hey All,

If you had 3 days on hand, which city will you visit for mongering? My top 3 choices are: Cancun, Tijuana and Mexico City. Constraints are:

1.) First time visitor to Mexico.

2.) Zero Spanish Speaking skills.

3.) Ease of scoring. (casa's similar to Sao Paulo or an overnighter you pull from EDC in Manila).

4.) Cost / Avg.

I know people choice vary but really want to hear what you prefer and why.

Thanks.

Old Parr
06-04-16, 16:42
For many reasons to numerous to mention:

1). Puerto Vallarta.

2). Puerto Vallarta.

3). Puerto Vallarta.

You owe me a case of Modelo or Victoria beer, and a bottle of Tequila Tradicional for my excellent advice!

Old Parr
06-05-16, 01:19
For many reasons to numerous to mention:

1). Puerto Vallarta.

2). Puerto Vallarta.

3). Puerto Vallarta.

You owe me a case of Modelo or Victoria beer, and a bottle of Tequila Tradicional for my excellent advice!It is a beautiful city that offers a large boardwalk area called the "malecon" that is in the heart of the entertainment district.

It offers great nightlife and restaurants.

They offer the most friendly people in the world.

You have many different options for girls all within 15 to 20 minutes of each other, and most are only 5 to 10 minutes from each other.

You have the beautiful ocean waters, beach bars, cantinas.

The place is very affordable.

The downtown area is only a 15 minute ride from the airport.

*Do not stay in Nuevo Vallarta.

There are many different types of accommodations available to you.

There are many things to do during the day time hours.

Puerto Vallarta offers many different types of entertainment all within walking distance in the malecon area.

The list could go on and on but since you are only going to be there a short period of time, the reasons I mentioned are enough for you to consider this area.

Chuday
06-06-16, 15:55
Thanks Old Parr. Glad I asked. PV was not on my radar until you mentioned it. Reading the threads on PV.

Beener
06-06-16, 16:43
I had to chuckle when I read this article because the same thing happened to me about 10 years ago = the gringo surcharge.

http://seattletimes.com/html/travel/2025678329_mexicoscamtravelwisexml.html

Beware the gas-station scam in Mexico.

A traveler ends up paying twice for a tank of gas in LOS Cabos, by credit card then cash when the card supposedly didn't work.

By Brian J. Cantwell Seattle Times travel writer.

Even guys who write about travel can get scammed.

On a recent trip to Mexico's Baja Peninsula, I'the managed to avoid filling my rental car's tank until the final day when I was about to return the car to the airport. I figured I was better off minimizing the number of times I handed over my credit card to gas stations or any business since credit-card fraud can be common in Mexico.

Good instinct, it turned out.

On Baja's Highway 1, approaching the exit for LOS Cabos International Airport, I pulled my Nissan rental car into a Pemex station, showed the attendant my card I'm always careful to do this before they start pumping and asked for a fill-up, por favor..Hi there all, and especially Yujin.

You really seem to know what you are talking about and I would like to get a bit of your help. I am not sure if this is the proper section where I should post but. I am the first time visitor in Miami and I cannot seem to find any girls that can make me WOW. Or make my body get rock hard. So I would like to know where I can find here some really good girls and some Viagra. And if that's possible to tell me whether is Viagra here legal (and where I can buy some cheap Viagra? I am asking this because I've heard that there are some countries and maybe even US states where Viagra is illegal.

Old Parr
06-09-16, 03:01
Thanks Old Parr. Glad I asked. PV was not on my radar until you mentioned it. Reading the threads on PV.If I can be of help to you in any way let me know. I have had a home in Puerto Vallarta for over 20 years, and also previously owned a Sports Bar and a popular nightclub. I highly suggest you read the latest post on the Puerto Vallarta forum by Tomjackin. Puerto Vallarta offers you everything you would want on a vacation.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?451-Puerto-Vallarta

Beener
06-09-16, 20:15
So, nobody has nothing for me for Miami now?? I am not in Miami, but I am thinking about going there again, some Viagra https://drugreviews.org/viagra help please in Miami? BTW, I'm Chicago, somebody here?

Chuday
06-11-16, 19:20
Old Parr,

A big thank you to Tomjackin for covering Puerto Vallarta (PR) so well. And thank you for directing me to his post. I've cancelled my plans for Cancun and instead looking at PR flights.

3 things:

1.) Club Aqua, Taboo, Candy's and Harem are on my must visit list. Should I add anything else?

2.) What are the options for an overnight companion in the room? To me the clubs are good for a quick pit stop but I also prefer to have a warm body in bed at night. Is that an option in PR? Or is it best not to have a companion in the room?

3.) On the hotel front. How is the Marriott, or Hyatt? Will I make a mistake if I choose to stay at a resort over something like Hotel Rio?


I highly suggest you read the latest post on the Puerto Vallarta forum by Tomjackin. Puerto Vallarta offers you everything you would want on a vacation.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?451-Puerto-Vallarta

TomJackin
06-13-16, 05:14
A big thank you to Tomjackin for covering Puerto Vallarta (PR) so well. And thank you for directing me to his post. I've cancelled my plans for Cancun and instead looking at PR flights.

3 things:

1.) Club Aqua, Taboo, Candy's and Harem are on my must visit list. Should I add anything else?

2.) What are the options for an overnight companion in the room? To me the clubs are good for a quick pit stop but I also prefer to have a warm body in bed at night. Is that an option in PR? Or is it best not to have a companion in the room?

3.) On the hotel front. How is the Marriott, or Hyatt? Will I make a mistake if I choose to stay at a resort over something like Hotel Rio?I did a lot of research on this place, plus I got a lot of help from Old Parr. Here are my thoughts:

1) Besides Taboo, go to the other no cover charge places, such as Disturbo, Andromeda, Vizzio, and last, but not least, Tapanko.

2) My mom does not allow sleepovers, so I can't comment on this subject.

3) The big hotels / resorts will not allow outside guests in your room. PV is more of a family destination, and from what I learned, stay at the smaller hotels or rent a condo.

Just my 2 pesos.

Simmer
06-10-17, 03:06
General question that hopefully somebody can answer. Are Mexican strippers generally accepting of bringing a wife to a strip club and getting a lap dance together? Wife is receptive to the idea. Perhaps the first step to something more. Possible vacation destinations are Puerto Vallarta, Cancun, Cozumel, Cabo San Lucas, and maybe Tijuana for a night. I scanned through a couple of pages of each of those places' threads but didn't spot anything. Thanks.

Bbond
08-06-17, 10:18
In case you are not aware, and most are not, Mexico has implemented new restrictions on what can be imported. And it is being strictly enforced. At least here anyway. Most meat is now prohibited. Cigarettes from the USA are limited to 1 carton, you can bring more if you declare them, at 573% tax. Don't declare them? Get caught, fine, which can be US $500. Frontier resident Mexicans can no longer bring alcohol into Mexico tax free. Americans still can but the amount is limited. There's a lot more, and you can visit the government site, which has the rules in english. It sucks, having to buy Mexican beef, pork, and chicken. For those that live in the border area of Mexico.

Bbond
08-06-17, 21:03
In case you are not aware, and most are not, Mexico has implemented new restrictions on what can be imported.Finally found the site, again, it's not easy to find, have to wake through a lot of old laws to get to it.

https://www.gob.mx/cms/uploads/attachment/file/66998/Productos_agroalimentarios_para_importacion_turistica.pdf

Bbond
08-06-17, 21:56
In case you are not aware, and most are not, Mexico has implemented new restrictions on what can be imported. And it is being strictly enforced. At least here anyway.Found the English version of the list.

https://www.gob.mx/cms/uploads/attachment/file/132085/Products_Version_en_ingl_s.pdf

JapaneseMaple
09-30-17, 18:58
Circumstances have me solo in a Cabo San Lucas resort next month. Looking through the CSL reports, it seems pretty difficult and inconsistant. I'm north of 50 with a hearing problem so I don't enjoy spending time in bars or clubs chatting up the chicas to negotiate.

So what about BYO? There's one local white girl who could probably come. She can talk forever, so there's no danger of long awkward silences over dinner. LOL. Other possibility is one from the local Asian micro that I've started using. Not sure about their English, but I'm happy to teach.

Obviously, they would have to have all their own legit travel documents, but I'm wondering about costs. I'd pay for air, and meals (optional all inclusive). Cash value of that works out to be about 2 shots a day if it was incall. I'm not Superman, so I don't expect more than 2-3 shots a day. Should I expect to pay extra on top of expenses? If so, how much? I'm just a regular guy, so dropping $10 K for a week is not realistic.

Any comments / suggestions welcome!

Ezinho
12-05-17, 15:45
I just got back from Tijuana and although the mongering scene is nothing special, I can appreciate the street girl action for what it is. As I read other threads in the Mexico section, it doesn't seem like most other Mexican cities have anything quite comparable to Tijuana, maybe with the exception of DF. A member just posted a brief street girl report in the GDL thread but it sounds sparse for such a large city. And the beach resort towns like Cabo and PV don't seem to have much of a street girl scene at all, the mongering is all centered around strip clubs and escorts it sounds like.

Does Tijuana really have the best street girl action in all of Mexico?

VIslander
12-17-17, 07:51
Old Parr,

A big thank you to Tomjackin for covering Puerto Vallarta (PR) so well. And thank you for directing me to his post. I've cancelled my plans for Cancun and instead looking at PR flights.

3 things:

1.) Club Aqua, Taboo, Candy's and Harem are on my must visit list. Should I add anything else?

2.) What are the options for an overnight companion in the room? To me the clubs are good for a quick pit stop but I also prefer to have a warm body in bed at night. Is that an option in PR? Or is it best not to have a companion in the room?

3.) On the hotel front. How is the Marriott, or Hyatt? Will I make a mistake if I choose to stay at a resort over something like Hotel Rio?Might be too late for you by now, but for posterity. You can always get a Motel in any Mexican city for a 'short term' stay. Motel rooms in Mexico generally mean "hook up rooms". Discrete, clean, but generally short term. Most of the big resorts are 'wrist band' places. You won't get an escort in one easily.

RobanRoban
03-13-18, 07:40
Looking for a golf resort that is close to some action in mexico. A buddy wants to go there during Christmas to golf. Said I would go with him but I don't golf. Figure ID just drive his cart around and be his caddy while drinking coronas all day. Then at night pick up some action. Was wondering if anyone has any suggestions.

Thanks.

VIslander
05-04-18, 07:00
Looking for a golf resort that is close to some action in mexico. A buddy wants to go there during Christmas to golf. Said I would go with him but I don't golf. Figure ID just drive his cart around and be his caddy while drinking coronas all day. Then at night pick up some action. Was wondering if anyone has any suggestions.

Thanks.Lots of places are good. From personal experience, Puerto Vallarta and Mazatlan would fit the bill. They both have action and golf courses. I don't know any of the golf courses personally as I don't waste my time on it. Of the two cities, I'd prefer Maz. Prices are more reasonable for pretty much everything. If you read any Spanish, the sexoenmazatlan forum has much better information than here. I think ISG could use a separate thread for Mazatlan. It's a nice town with some good action. Table dance, casas de citas as well as agencies and online indies. I've accidentally 'fallen in' to a casa de cita I didn't know was there previously while walking home from another one. Good action in CDMX, but I don't know about the golf.

ElBonedOff
05-05-18, 01:07
Looking for a golf resort that is close to some action in mexico. A buddy wants to go there during christmas to golf. Said I would go with him but I don't golf. Figure id just drive his cart around and be his caddy while drinking coronas all day. Then at night pick up some action. Was wondering if anyone has any suggestions.

I would say Mazatlan, I have been going there 25+ years, plenty of golf action, different golf courses, and the sex is far cheaper, than say PV, less than 1/4 of pv! In fact probable the cheapest in Mexico, more "Bang" for your buck LOL! You could stay at el cid, right on the course or others!

Look at craigs, for pv for example and see the sticker shock!

OK the good the bad and the sleazy, there are 250 pesos *****houses (about 13 usd) and 600 peso *****houses (about 31 usd) they can have from 1 to 3 girls at the smaller places to 20 or 25 at the larger places, they are all young, barely legal to maybe early 20's, and usually fairly hot!

These prices all include BJ & vaginal sex con condom! They supply all lube, condoms, fun!

Most of the girls will give you very good and certainly much better than USA or Canada bought sex, 70% oral natural, they generally have an am & pm shift, change is around 7 pm, so go morn and night to see all the girls! The most will be at night, they close at 4 am!

Pv sex is going to cost a 100 bucks to 200 a pop! Same as the usa! Mazatlan is a sex bargain!

There are many happy ending massage parlors here, and most will do full sex too!

There are primarily 3 strip clubs (there are many more) OK first off, unlike the USA they are not all burned out 30 to 40 year olds, and they are all hookers, any girl you see dance is for sale and on the spot! Prostitution is fully legal in all its forms.

La Botana the most expensive and takes full advantage of the "Gringo" no 250 peso booth sex for you as the Mexicans, you have to upstairs for from 3,000 to 6,000 pesos! Girls years ago were hot, many dogs now! Place is suffering due to the loss of tourists!

Torrandas, probable the largest strip club, up to 30 girls, mostly by far Mexican crowd, Mexican prices!

Hipocampo, Mexican crowd, weird place check them all out! Look online!

P.S. Stay the hell away from corona, going to come to Mazatlan drink "Pacifico" the local German brew, voted one of the worlds 10 best beers! And it is! And from a bottle not a can please!

Noob Traveller
12-20-18, 00:12
Hey gents,

Quick question? I'm in Dallas looking to make a trip to Mexico early next year. Zone norte seems like the best choice. Cheap, plentiful options, and no drama. But it's a 24 hour drive from where I'm at. Is there a closer option than zona norte or am I going to have to suck it up and make the drive?