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Fairy Tale69

12-25-12, 04:04

Hello there,

I will be in oriente from Dec 29th to Jan 6th, in Havana from Jan 7th to Jan 14th, if anyone is there at that time would not mind have a drink or two.

We could share car rental charges too or even rent whole app / house. Any tips for chica friendly casa in Vedado / Miramar as well as Holguin / Camaguey would be greatly appreciated.

Please send me a message.

Regards

Kalifornication

12-25-12, 15:43

Re: It is possible to have a cuban "girlfriend", but you WILL have to take her out, party, restaurants. And you will end up buying her something, maybe some perfume, slippers, a dress,"medicine for her sick mother", something. Not to mention you will most probably give her money for "taxi" to go home because she's "too scared to check into your hotel". She will then keep that $10 taxi money and take the bus for about 5 cents.

So as you can see, FREE PUSSY DOES NOT EXIST. But you will have a blast in Cuba! LOL.

OK, define "girlfriend". If you mean the western notion of girlfriend, then yes, that can be had in Cuba. Yes you can indeed have a real girlfriend, this is true. But it will not be easy, and she will not be the Cuban that is anywhere near tourists zones. You need to find her. She will likely come from a "middle class" Cuban family (I. E, she is not hungry and is proud). She would therefore appreciate the material comfort you bring, but does not need it. Yes these girls do exist. Hard to find, but they are real.

For the record, not every Cuban female is a working girl.

Look dude, from my perspective it's easier in Cuba. U don't have to worry about gangs, Triads, aggressive pimps, the local mobsters or getting murdered or poisoned like you do in Thailand. Not to mention the Thai Police can fuck with you anytime they want with trumped up charges and extort money. They run scams with local merchants especially the Sea Doo and Scooter rentals.

In Cuba the Police DO NOT bother you at all unless it's drug related and then your fucked! Which is the same in most countries anyway, so no difference.

Yes prostitution is illegal there, just like it is in many countries. But the Police NEVER hassle the tourists, they always go after the girls. And if you really like the girl just slip the cop a $10 or $20 and the hassle will be over and you will walk away with your girl.

Free pussy, is there REALLY such a thing? When you hooked up with those Thai girls they just agreed to have sex with you right away without you so much as buying them a drink or meal? C'mon dude, who you kidding? U got to pay if you want to play! This is the way it is ALL OVER THE WORLD. Whether it's drinks, dinner, movies, a cute outfit or just plain cash you ALWAYS HAVE TO PAY. I know many guys like to fool themselves into thinking they never pay for pussy because they didn't actually put money into the girl's hands, but those same guys end up spending way more by buying the girls all kinds of shit and taking them out every night as opposed to those that just do a cash transaction.

It is possible to have a cuban "girlfriend", but you WILL have to take her out, party, restaurants. And you will end up buying her something, maybe some perfume, slippers, a dress,"medicine for her sick mother", something. Not to mention you will most probably give her money for "taxi" to go home because she's "too scared to check into your hotel". She will then keep that $10 taxi money and take the bus for about 5 cents.

So as you can see, FREE PUSSY DOES NOT EXIST. But you will have a blast in Cuba! LOL.

MrSoulo

12-26-12, 02:16

JohnBear

12-26-12, 14:00

Hi,

Will stay in Nacional hotel for 5 nights. How can I bring girls to hotel room? I don't rent a casa. Can girls in Salon Rojo find you a place to have a good fuck?

Appreicate

RocheBrazi

12-26-12, 18:47

Hi,

Will stay in Nacional hotel for 5 nights. How can I bring girls to hotel room? I don't rent a casa. Can girls in Salon Rojo find you a place to have a good fuck?

AppreicateI never was there but had Cuba on my List and did some Homework and got alot Info from this site.

Nacional is one of the most popular Hotels in Havana. If they even let Chicas in, the Tip for the security well be more expensive than renting a casa close by.

Also if you consider to do a overnighter the security will kick the chick out early in the morning.

If I go to Cuba eventually I also have the National in my top list but I will also get a casa for fucking. Then I don't have to worry about my personal stuff in my room that might get stolen. I just rent a casa then and bring some condoms and shampoo over there LOL.

Good Thing is Salon Rojo is only a few steps away from National.

Any Chica in Salon Rojo will know a place for some extra cost to do the fun.

But these casas are mostly limited for a few hours aswell so again if you consider to do a overnighter you will do better and cheaper with a own casa.

Kalifornication

12-26-12, 21:10

You are correct, you never stated that "every Cuban female is a working girl".

For the record, I never stated that "every Cuban female is a working girl".

Here's the definition for "girlfriend":

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/girlfriend

Girl·friend noun \&712; g&601; are (-&601. L-&716; frend\

Definition of GIRLFRIEND.

1. A female friend.

2. A frequent or regular female companion in a romantic or sexual relationship

Questner

12-27-12, 05:23

Hi,

Will stay in Nacional hotel for 5 nights. How can I bring girls to hotel room? I don't rent a casa. Can girls in Salon Rojo find you a place to have a good fuck?

AppreicateYes, you can register them or smuggle them in. This is an expensive, indiscreet but comfortable and close ride.

Yes, absolutely they will arrange for a room. This is a cheaper fun way to go. Your part comes here at 0:26:50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2A2NSUOEw

Part 1 was filmed in Salon Rojo

Adinga

12-30-12, 05:34

Never tell a prostitute from Salon Rojo that you are staying at the Hotel Nacional otherwise they will eat you alive.

I suggest that you go there as a last resort for pussy because you will most likley be overcharged by some pretty 20 year old girl with a poor attitude.

The crowd consists of tourists, pimps and professional prostitutes.

JohnBear

12-30-12, 21:02

Many thanks. Appreciate.

Yes, you can register them or smuggle them in. This is an expensive, indiscreet but comfortable and close ride.

Yes, absolutely they will arrange for a room. This is a cheaper fun way to go. Your part comes here at 0:26:50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2A2NSUOEw

Part 1 was filmed in Salon Rojo

JohnBear

12-30-12, 21:02

Thanks guys for the valuable input.

Do you know if there are any massage parlor or indy in Havana?

JohnBear

12-30-12, 21:11

Thanks for the info. Appreciate.

I never was there but had Cuba on my List and did some Homework and got alot Info from this site.

Nacional is one of the most popular Hotels in Havana. If they even let Chicas in, the Tip for the security well be more expensive than renting a casa close by.

Also if you consider to do a overnighter the security will kick the chick out early in the morning.

If I go to Cuba eventually I also have the National in my top list but I will also get a casa for fucking. Then I don't have to worry about my personal stuff in my room that might get stolen. I just rent a casa then and bring some condoms and shampoo over there LOL.

Good Thing is Salon Rojo is only a few steps away from National.

Any Chica in Salon Rojo will know a place for some extra cost to do the fun.

But these casas are mostly limited for a few hours aswell so again if you consider to do a overnighter you will do better and cheaper with a own casa.

JohnBear

12-30-12, 21:27

Thanks. But I am with a big group for business purpose this trip. So I need a quickie. Hahaa. Guess Salon Rojo is the best place for me to get quick fuck.

JB

Never tell a prostitute from Salon Rojo that you are staying at the Hotel Nacional otherwise they will eat you alive.

I suggest that you go there as a last resort for pussy because you will most likley be overcharged by some pretty 20 year old girl with a poor attitude.

The crowd consists of tourists, pimps and professional prostitutes.

Adinga

01-02-13, 03:49

MrSoulo

01-02-13, 19:28

JB.

Spend your evenings alone at the hotel but rent a casa particular around the corner just for the girls.

Its only $25 per day and you will have total privacy this will also prevent any embarrassing situations with business associates.

I've stayed at this casa and its located appx 4 blocks from Nacional Hotel.

Mrs Berta.

Address: Calle 17 # 5 apto. 4 entre N why O. Vedado. La Habana. Cuba.

Phone: (+537) 831-2818Hi,

Some clarification please. Is it Building #5 and apartment #4?

Also, shouldn't it be "entre N why O" instead of "N why O"?

Addresses can be tricky over there, so I just want to make sure.

Does she speak English?

How many rooms does she have for rent?

Can you please describe the room a bit for us please.

Does each room have it's own private bathroom and entrance?

Any additional information you can provide would be most helpful.

Thanks in advance.

Mrsoulo

MrSoulo

01-05-13, 08:11

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WaterTraveller

01-05-13, 21:49

On the 30th of dec was at la maison, up close to the band as they finished alot of people crowding stage area, walking back to my table 2 guys "sandwiched" me.

Feeling no pain from the many many crystals something did'nt feel right felt my pocket, wallet gone, so howlered out to bartender, donde el seguridad, pointed out the 2 guys going different directionsand yelling robos, robos, under cover security came over and we left to go down stairs, guess he did'nt want clients to see making a scene, by the time we walked dowstair to the entrance the security at the door already had my wallet still with the 38cuc in it. The dude said he found it on the floor. My guess is security works with the thieves, had I not noticed right away they would has split it, but because not much dinero involved and I could I. The. The guy they gave back to me. Told them I had 80 cuc in it and if I did'nt get back. Was calling the police. Had I been staying in Cuba longer I would have made them pay up or really call the cops but would not have been able to leave the country until situation was resolved so let it slide. My cuban friends girlfriends sure made a scence also but I shut them up. Would have been good to make42 cuc off them fuckers. Those of you who think there is no crime in havana need to be more alert. Things do happen and happen fast in broad daylight as I mentioned in previos post. I've spent 9 months in the last 2 years in Cuba mostly in habana and had 3 first hand experiences with thieves and my buddy got hit by a car running from thieves with a knife between casa de la musica and hotel deville. I like casa de la musica habana, I think they have a good reputation as security actually wanted to help me out find a chick I had met there. After 4 dates outside the club and bringing her to my casa each time she put something in my beer which made me fall asleep and she rip me off. Enjoy the nitelife in habana but be smart,

Suerte

Adinga

01-06-13, 05:24

Its a private one bedroom apartment with small kitchen, living room, bathromm (independent entrance).

Miss Berta lives downstairs and apartment is clean. I stayed in this casa in 2009 and never had problems.

I havnt spoke to her in years but its worth trying.

Adinga

01-07-13, 05:11

In 2008 I had a gold chain ripped off my neck outside of Casa de Musica. I was also drunk at the time.

What I've learned over the years is that you don't want to draw attention to yourself in Cuba.

The crime rate is low but everyone is watching you so leave your Iphones, Nikes and Ralph Lauren shorts at home.

TripleDecker

01-16-13, 03:58

Hello,

I come back from Santiago de Cuba Yesterday.

I did not put address into rgistration form and was brought on side for questioining. The nice lady.

I guess she was immigration officer nterviewed me in separate room.

- where you going? Do you know anyone in Cuba? Did you sleep with cuban female? Are you bringing money to cuban? Do you go to bar and take girl there? Io.

And that sort of questions. At the end she let me go.

=on my way back same officer question me: did you meet someone? Did you sleep with some one etc.

Can someone let me know what is this all about? I have been to Cuba 2 time but never had this kind of experience.

Is it wrong if someone meet female and have some fun there (or enywhere in world)

Am I going to be treated same if I return to Cuba again?

I like it there but do not think its work all hassle and harassment.

Is it legal to bring vibrator to Cuba or not?

Freckly

01-16-13, 06:04

Hi,

Some clarification please. Is it Building #5 and apartment #4?

Also, shouldn't it be "entre N why O" instead of "N why O"?

MrsouloI suppose it should be "entre N why O", meaning Between n and o.

Freckly

01-16-13, 06:11

Hi,

Some clarification please. Is it Building #5 and apartment #4?

Also, shouldn't it be "entre N why O" instead of "N why O"?

MrsouloI suppose it should be entre N Y O, meaning between N and O.

-note, the forum editor has a bug which will convert lower case of "Y" to "why" and lower case of "N" to "and".

Keiser

01-17-13, 01:26

TrippleDecker, you should probably know that you do not put any address on the "registration form" since about 3 years. In other words, there is no place at all where to write any address.

TripleDecker

01-17-13, 02:10

TrippleDecker, you should probably know that you do not put any address on the "registration form" since about 3 years. In other words, there is no place at all where to write any address.Well that is what you think. I was surprised when we got 3 pieces of paper on board. (a) 2 part visa (be) Custom Declaration (3) a form on its bottom you write where you will stay (go) in Cuba. Passport officer collects half of visa and this form. Any way thanks for response, and those are genuine questions I asked. So if anyone knows more about this please comment.

Thanks

Batbat59

01-20-13, 06:29

Any new informations about it in Havana?

Vedado Fun

01-20-13, 17:45

Well that is what you think. I was surprised when we got 3 pieces of paper on board. (a) 2 part visa (be) Custom Declaration (3) a form on its bottom you write where you will stay (go) in Cuba. Passport officer collects half of visa and this form. Any way thanks for response, and those are genuine questions I asked. So if anyone knows more about this please comment.

ThanksYou really only need to fill out the visa part if you are just a regular tourist and your not carrying any excess goods.

I go there several times a year. I was just there in Oct. I only ever give them the visa part.

I keep the other 2 pieces of paper in my pocket just in case but I've never been asked for them.

Golds

01-20-13, 18:07

I go for the first time to Havana, is 200 CUC daily sufficient WITHOUT lodging?

Ganesha

01-20-13, 18:28

I go for the first time to Havana, is 200 CUC daily sufficient WITHOUT lodging?It depends upon circumstances! What shall we do with such an imprecise question?

Freckly

01-20-13, 19:06

I go for the first time to Havana, is 200 CUC daily sufficient WITHOUT lodging?It depends on your lifestyle. But usually it is more than enough including lodging. It is in Cuba on earth, not in New York City.

Golds

01-20-13, 19:41

Just making a count, chicas 50 cuc till 70 cuc in best cases, taxi + entrance in discos+ drinks 30 or 40 cuc, that leaves 100-120 cucfor daytime pleasure + food + drinks, it's close no?

Kalifornication

01-21-13, 00:42

Ok if I were in Cuba, which I will be next week:

Let's see, . Would definitely not do Havana. Too professional, and, for what, pressure, bad service, jaded chica, no, not me.

So I'm in another province, say "east of Havana".

Now what?

1. No discos.

2. Sit in a park and say hello to all the chicas that pass that I am interested in. Not looking for the pros. Not at all. Normal girls.

3. What will I say? I'll start with "hello can we talk for a moment". Then I'll make the date and invite her to my casa later. If I take her to eat or drink, $10. 00.

4. Sex will be great. She will never ask for a dime but I could give her $10 or $15 and she will be very very happy. (Knowing me, I'd probably give her a little bit more).

5. She is not clocking me, not looking to run home to child or mama. I've got her all night if that is what I wish.

6. Per day $ minimum for chica free or not more than $30.

It's funny right? Less is more! Sometimes you just don't get what you pay for.

Just making a count, chicas 50 cuc till 70 cuc in best cases, taxi + entrance in discos+ drinks 30 or 40 cuc, that leaves 100-120 cucfor daytime pleasure + food + drinks, it's close no?

Sammytheman

01-21-13, 07:18

I just wanted to add my 2 centados. Yes the provinces are cheaper BUT it can get boring really fast. If you are just going for sex then go to Havana. If you want a bit of challenge / adventure then leave Havana and explore the countryside. What I did last year is went from city hopping once I got bored in one place.

TripleDecker

01-23-13, 02:42

You really only need to fill out the visa part if you are just a regular tourist and your not carrying any excess goods.

I go there several times a year. I was just there in Oct. I only ever give them the visa part.

I keep the other 2 pieces of paper in my pocket just in case but I've never been asked for them.Thanks for reply Vedado Fun. My question is when immigration interviewed me in little side room on arrival as well as I had an exit interview on my way back home. Is this going to become routine procedure any time I return back there or its random check up? Of course I do nothing wrong, just have some fun with girls over there and chillax. What one can expect there since they are unpredictable as commies. I do not want to be send back home with a "SEX TOURIST" sticker on my forehead.

TripleDecker

01-23-13, 02:51

You really only need to fill out the visa part if you are just a regular tourist and your not carrying any excess goods.

I go there several times a year. I was just there in Oct. I only ever give them the visa part.

I keep the other 2 pieces of paper in my pocket just in case but I've never been asked for them.Thank you for replay Vedado Fun. My question is since immigration interviewed me in little side room on my arrival at airport as well as I was granted exit interview by same person on my way back. I this going to become routine procedure every time I return back to Cuba or it was random interview. Or they do this just to shame and intimidate visitors which do not spend enought money to state institutions (I do not go to hotels, and I go to casas, private paladars and use private taxi as much as I can). What one can expect there since they are commies and unpredictable. Idea of being sent back home with SEX TURIST sticker on my forehead do not make me happy at all. I go there to chillax and have some fun with girls. I wish I can pvt you, because this is more kinda of private question.

El Chico

01-23-13, 21:35

Vedado Fun

01-24-13, 01:17

Thank you for replay Vedado Fun. My question is since immigration interviewed me in little side room on my arrival at airport as well as I was granted exit interview by same person on my way back. I this going to become routine procedure every time I return back to Cuba or it was random interview. Or they do this just to shame and intimidate visitors which do not spend enought money to state institutions (I do not go to hotels, and I go to casas, private paladars and use private taxi as much as I can). What one can expect there since they are commies and unpredictable. Idea of being sent back home with SEX TURIST sticker on my forehead do not make me happy at all. I go there to chillax and have some fun with girls. I wish I can pvt you, because this is more kinda of private question.It is normal anywhere in the world for customs to do random secondary checks on people. If you're not bringing in anything you shouldn't bring in and you follow the rules of whatever country you are visiting you should not have any problems with customs anywhere. Do not chit chat with customs officers anywhere. Just answer whatever questions they ask truthfully for the most part. I've been plulled into secondary at least 3 or 4 times going into Cuba but it's never been a problem. They are just randomly checking people now and then. I've had them go through all my luggage and ask why I'm visiting Cuba and where I'm staying etc. All it does is slow me down a little but they are only doing their job. I've been to Cuba more than 30 times. I have never had them ask anything about girls or anything like that. One time they asked if I had any friends there and I said no. Once you arrive at your casa in Cuba as you know it's normal for the owner of the casa to take your visa and they take this to immigration the next day. Once this is done they know exactly where you are staying. If you move to another casa the same thing happens again. This is really a good thing for your own protection just like casa owners writing down a chicas carnet info. This is a way to track down the chica if she happened to steal from you etc plus the casa owner can also confirm the chicas indenity and age. If you want to sneak around Cuba and stay in illegal casas and bring back chicas without letting the casa owner's see their carnet you are taking some big chances. I don't think the Cuban authorities care too much about what a tourist is doing in Cuba as long as everything is legal and as long as you are not spending time with any chicas who are under 18. There really isn't much that goes on in Cuba that isn't being watch by someone. Follow the rules and you shoudn't have any problems. Be very careful of who you hang out with in Cuba and don't get fooled by people pretending to be your new best friend. Cuba and many other so called poor countries can be very dangerous if you don't follow the rules and are not careful. Taxis are fairly cheap in most of Cuba so after dark if you're not exactly sure of where you're going take one.

If you wish to send me a private message you can but you need to pay the signup fee to Jackson first. In your case I think it will definitely be money well spent.

Stones

01-27-13, 20:07

The reports for Havana and the rest of Cuba are so full of stories of the hassles and hard nose negotiating and problems with the police and on an on.

It leads me to ask the question is it worth the effort? Does the quality, skills effort of the Cubanas make it worth it? Its funny one report will say there're all gorditas and the next one says its spinner heaven. Its easily the most contradictory thread on the board.

So how good are they?

MrSoulo

01-28-13, 04:58

Velasco

01-28-13, 08:41

My initial attraction to Cuba was totally different. I was interested in seeing a centrally planned economy, and North Korea is not exactly a travel destination. My interests grew to include music (Celia Cruz, Buena Vista Social Club etc) , history (Marti, Maceo, Cespedes, Moncada, Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis etc) and much more. There is also the "Forbidded Fruit" aspect of going to Cuba, with the US embargo. One of my trips to Cuba many years ago was with my then wife (All I did was look on that trip). I have friends in Cuba I visit, tias and tios not named Pepe.

I have never travelled to a place with the express purpose of chasing chicas, and Cuba is no different. There have been some days and nights when I have gone to bed without hooking up with someone while in Cuba, for the reasons you detailed in your post. That said, Cuban women have no equal, and if you have a good experience with a Cubana you will feel like the luckiest guy in the world. I frequently tell this story to illustrate the allure of Cubanas. Cuba is the only place in the world where someone goes for a week, meets a chica and decides to marry her. People meet spouses from other cultures all the time (Expats, study abroad, Peace Corp, language school etc). But in Cuba, a guy who speaks no Spanish goes there for a week and he is ready to propose.

For me, it is absolutely worth it overall, and I suggest you give it a shot.

Sainter21

01-29-13, 00:59

Gents,

I am making my first trip to Cuba in March. Whilst I am visiting for touristic purposes I do anticipate a bit of action on the side (I am a frequent visitor to Thailand for P4P).

I'm seeking a suitable Casa Particular where I can go about my business discreetly. Although I am travelling alone, I'd much prefer a Casa with a private entrance and ideally one that is totally private / independent, as I'm not sure I would be comfortable taking back company with a owner and / or family about. All the ones I have found online, even with private entrances seem to have multiple rooms available. I'd much prefer something totally private.

I had booked an apartment online in the Viejo area for 35cuc, however I have received no reply for confirmation (Casa Yusef if anyone is familiar with that).

So I'd appreciate any recommendations and if possible contact details so that I am able to book.

If anyone is in Havana between March 5-10 (before I explore the rest of the island) I'd be happy to buy you a drink or three and get some insight into the Cuban scene.

Cheers.

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Adinga

01-29-13, 04:32

A few observations about Havana:

Dirty.

Terrible food.

Corrupt Police.

Poor accomodations.

Oppressive heat and humidity during summer months.

Gets boring after a few days.

Need a car.

No more GFE.

I've been traveling to Havana for sometime now and have come to realize that Cuba isn't for everybody.

Travel2040

01-29-13, 06:23

I had 15 very good days in Cuba and Havana. I stayed in a Casa Particular in Vedado. The casa was perfect for me with services like breakfast, dinner and laundry available. And the most important; the casa was chica friendly. The casa was located close to the main street Avendida de Los Presidente and Avendida 23 (La Rampa). In the area you have 3-4 ATM's and many good paledars. And you use 10 minutes to walk to Salon Rojo. In my opinion Vedado is a very good distrikt in Havana. In Havana I visit followed clubs; Salon Rojo, Johnny, La Maison, La Cecilia and Casa De La Musica in centro Havana and Mirimar. All good places to have fun. Salon Rojo is located in Vedado area (close to hotel Nacional) , Johnny in playa (direction Mirimar) , La Maison and La Cecilia in Mirimar area. The first night I visit Salon Rojo and become surprised over how many girls that wanted to stay with me for the night. 15-20 girls wanted my attention and 10 of them was very good looking. I experienced the situation little bit stressed because I want to start with a beer and just to see. It was difficult because the girls give me no time to relax. Compared with Brasil and Thailand you have more time in clubs to relax and to make a decision on which girl you want to have company with. Before my trip to Cuba I read some comments that Cuban girls are afraid of to stay with tourists? I experienced the opposite. In clubs, restaurants, parks, taxi and casa there was no problems to be with a Cuban girl. Maybe Salon Rojo is the best place to find beautiful girls but I liked the atmosphere at Casa de la Musica in Mirimar and the outdoor scene at La Cecilia. In all clubs there are no problems to find beautiful girls. When you stay in Cuba casa particular is the best quality for the money. Cuban hotels are expensive and the standard lower compared with other places in the world. And you have to pay the security if you want visit from chickas. The food in Cuba is good if you eat in private places. The quality in official restaurants changes. Be careful with some Taxi drivers; if you are drunk and newbie in Havana someone will try to charge you for the double of price that is normal. A good advice is to make an agrrement of the price before you go into the taxi. In generally Havana is a very safe city if you follow some simple beforehanded tips. Cuban chickas are very hot and nice company. Some chickas will ask for 100 CUC but the normal price is 30-60 CUC + taxi (my experience).

Rock Harders

01-30-13, 03:10

Mongers-

I just did a long weekend in Havana over the MLK holiday and I am pleased to report that there is still a plethora of young hardbodies to be had at the usual spots. I stayed at a different four bedroom casa particular that is owned by the descendants of one of Fidel's top M-26 comandantes (Nunez Jimenez). The place was enormous, in pristine condition and decorated in a artistic sex themed style along with old wooden antiques and furniture that would be worth a fortune in western circles. The daughter of this guy also owns a newish restaurant in Miramar called Rio Mar that was about 30% cheaper than the best tourist-geared private restaurants and was filled with obvious government officials (and their rich children) and the unbelievably smoking hot ladies who accompanied them.

Friday night I went to Salon Rojo and there was the usual high volume high quality talent on offer. 10 CUC to get in. 40 CUC for a bottle of Havana 7, and the girls were asking for 100 CUC but would go for 70/80 CUC with minimal haggling. On Saturday I went to La Cecilia and was not particularly impressed with the quantity or quality of talent available; it seems the place is now geared toward the "new rich" in Havana (the MC get referring to the place as the most exclusive in Havana, blah blah blah) , most of the customers were regular Cubans, and prices seem to have been raised significantly. 20 CUC to get in. 75 CUC for a bottle of Havana 7, with the chicas asking for the usual 100 CUC and again dropping to 70/80 CUC with no issues. The best night by far was Sunday night at Salon Rojo; TONS of girls, HIGH quality; this was the first time I bothered staying a Sunday night in Havana and I assure you that all future trips will include a Sunday night stay.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

Chaman

01-30-13, 06:13

How is the action in Johnny? Is it better than Salon Rojo? The chicas ask for 100 CUC also?

I had 15 very good days in Cuba and Havana. I stayed in a Casa Particular in Vedado. The casa was perfect for me with services like breakfast, dinner and laundry available. And the most important; the casa was chica friendly. The casa was located close to the main street Avendida de Los Presidente and Avendida 23 (La Rampa). In the area you have 3-4 ATM's and many good paledars. And you use 10 minutes to walk to Salon Rojo. In my opinion Vedado is a very good distrikt in Havana. In Havana I visit followed clubs; Salon Rojo, Johnny, La Maison, La Cecilia and Casa De La Musica in centro Havana and Mirimar. All good places to have fun. Salon Rojo is located in Vedado area (close to hotel Nacional) , Johnny in playa (direction Mirimar) , La Maison and La Cecilia in Mirimar area. The first night I visit Salon Rojo and become surprised over how many girls that wanted to stay with me for the night. 15-20 girls wanted my attention and 10 of them was very good looking. I experienced the situation little bit stressed because I want to start with a beer and just to see. It was difficult because the girls give me no time to relax. Compared with Brasil and Thailand you have more time in clubs to relax and to make a decision on which girl you want to have company with. Before my trip to Cuba I read some comments that Cuban girls are afraid of to stay with tourists? I experienced the opposite. In clubs, restaurants, parks, taxi and casa there was no problems to be with a Cuban girl. Maybe Salon Rojo is the best place to find beautiful girls but I liked the atmosphere at Casa de la Musica in Mirimar and the outdoor scene at La Cecilia. In all clubs there are no problems to find beautiful girls. When you stay in Cuba casa particular is the best quality for the money. Cuban hotels are expensive and the standard lower compared with other places in the world. And you have to pay the security if you want visit from chickas. The food in Cuba is good if you eat in private places. The quality in official restaurants changes. Be careful with some Taxi drivers; if you are drunk and newbie in Havana someone will try to charge you for the double of price that is normal. A good advice is to make an agrrement of the price before you go into the taxi. In generally Havana is a very safe city if you follow some simple beforehanded tips. Cuban chickas are very hot and nice company. Some chickas will ask for 100 CUC but the normal price is 30-60 CUC + taxi (my experience).

Travel2040

01-30-13, 09:45

After 15 days in Havana I'm not an expert about the nightlife but have my experiences. Salon Rojo is generally a very good place to meet chickas. Every day Salon Rojo is filled up with hotties except when I visited the place on Monday it was closed. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday are very good in Salon Rojo. Some girls in Salon Rojo is hardcore and will ask for 100 CUC + taxi. I had 1 hottie from Salon Rojo and paid 60 CUC + taxi. On Sunday Salon Rojo or La Maison is the place to go. When I visit Johnny on Monday and Friday it was very crowded and many hot chickas. The place isn't big and become quickly Overpopulated. I liked Johnny and the scene there. Had 1 hottie from Johnny and paid 50 CUC + taxi and food. Casa De La Musica in Mirimar is also a good place to visit. I had 2 girls from Casa De La Musica in Mirimar and paid 50-60 CUC + taxi and food. I visit La Cecilia on Saturday and there was a special salsa evenement there. Many people and hot chickas. I liked the outdoor scene and atmosphere at La Cecilia. I ended up with a really hottie (model class) from La Cecila. I had also talked with this girl on Salon Rojo. I paid the girl 80 CUC + taxi and food. To visit the clubs in Havana you will be charged for 10-20 CUC depend on which day and if there is a special evenement.

Martin00

01-31-13, 02:33

MrSoulo

01-31-13, 10:46

Rock Harders

02-01-13, 06:28

Rock Harders

02-01-13, 06:32

DAMN! I remember paying $20 CUC to a chica from Salon Rojo for an all nighter 2 yrs ago. Prices are getting crazy out of hand in Havana. Pity.That would be very, very hard today with an entry fee of 10 CUC and a minimum drink consumption of 5 CUC for the ladies; she would only make 5 CUC and would net much less after accounting for transportation, ancillary costs, etc.

Travel2040

02-01-13, 09:39

In the building I stayed there was 5-6 casas of high quality. The day before I left Cuba I checked the terms in every casas and next time I go to Cuba I will prefer Misleydis. You can reach Misleydis on the phone; +53 529 21071 (mobile) or +53 78330744 (private). The casa is located in a very nice area in Vedado with close distance to the action. You have 4 ATM's in the area, walking distance to Salon Rojo (10 min) , a very good paledar in the neighborrhood (Idlo) and Internett connection at hotel Presidente. The casa is chicka friendly, independent entrance, very big room with nice furniture and tv, exclusive bathroom and own balcony in 9th floor with beautiful view of Havana. The price is 30-35 CUC depend on how long time you will stay. The building is very safe with own security guard. Everytime I come with chickas he was smiling. He also want to arrange a meeting for me with a beautiful chickas he knowed.

Hello Travel / Rocks,

Can you please share the directions and prices of the casas that you used in Havana? Looks like they were chica friendly and you enjoyed your stay!

Otherwise, anyone else can suggest a couple of casas in Vedado that got no problem in bringing chicas in (price in the range 20-30 CUC)?

Going to Cuba in three days ans still haven't got a place to stay for the first night!

Thanks!

Lusifer69

02-01-13, 14:58

Hello Travel / Rocks,

Can you please share the directions and prices of the casas that you used in Havana? Looks like they were chica friendly and you enjoyed your stay!

Otherwise, anyone else can suggest a couple of casas in Vedado that got no problem in bringing chicas in (price in the range 20-30 CUC)?

Going to Cuba in three days ans still haven't got a place to stay for the first night!

Thanks!I hope you read this in time and it helps you. In Guanabo there is a company call mar azul or isla azul is a government run company they rent from 1 bedroom studio type or little houses to 4-5 room houses with pool last time I was there we got a 4 bedroom house (no pool) for 45 CUC a day it is completely private ones you do all the paper work they give you a key and show you your house they have houses all over Guanabo the one we got was 1 block away from the club Guanimar whits is like club cesilia in Havana alot of p4p at night and during the day you can find girls at the beach or in the little bars all over Guanabo.

Freckly

02-01-13, 21:37

I hope you read this in time and it helps you. In Guanabo there is a company call mar azul or isla azul is a government run company they rent from 1 bedroom studio type or little houses to 4-5 room houses with pool last time I was there we got a 4 bedroom house (no pool) for 45 CUC a day it is completely private ones you do all the paper work they give you a key and show you your house they have houses all over Guanabo the one we got was 1 block away from the club Guanimar whits is like club cesilia in Havana alot of p4p at night and during the day you can find girls at the beach or in the little bars all over Guanabo.I second that. I have been there 2011. The studio cabin was cuc 12 a day. It only has a fan and no aircon. Total independent.

MrSoulo

02-02-13, 01:09

That would be very, very hard today with an entry fee of 10 CUC and a minimum drink consumption of 5 CUC for the ladies; she would only make 5 CUC and would net much less after accounting for transportation, ancillary costs, etc.Maybe I only paid $20 because of my manly good-looks and incredible sex appeal. LOL. Or maybe it was because it was almost closing time and I got lucky.

MrSoulo

02-02-13, 01:24

I hope you read this in time and it helps you. In Guanabo there is a company call mar azul or isla azul is a government run company they rent from 1 bedroom studio type or little houses to 4-5 room houses with pool last time I was there we got a 4 bedroom house (no pool) for 45 CUC a day it is completely private ones you do all the paper work they give you a key and show you your house they have houses all over Guanabo the one we got was 1 block away from the club Guanimar whits is like club cesilia in Havana alot of p4p at night and during the day you can find girls at the beach or in the little bars all over Guanabo.I've been to Guanabo many times, is this place located close to the roundabout across from the gas station?

Also, do the rooms have AC? This is SUPER IMPORTANT for me, I would never rent a place in Cuba without AC.

Lusifer69

02-02-13, 07:20

The ones that I got had ac. And the offices unless they move them are around this area input this into google map latitude 23°10'9. 30"N longitude 82° 8'20. 27"W.

I've been to Guanabo many times, is this place located close to the roundabout across from the gas station?

Also, do the rooms have AC? This is SUPER IMPORTANT for me, I would never rent a place in Cuba without AC.

Lusifer69

02-02-13, 07:23

I second that. I have been there 2011. The studio cabin was cuc 12 a day. It only has a fan and no aircon. Total independent.I had to stay at one of studio cabins for one day and the one we got had ac a really big and cold ac and no nobs to regulate it. They been updating them little by little.

Sammytheman

02-02-13, 08:08

DAMN! I remember paying $20 CUC to a chica from Salon Rojo for an all nighter 2 yrs ago. Prices are getting crazy out of hand in Havana. Pity.I was there on November 2010 and even 40 CUCs was laughable to them. But then again don't know the quality of chica you picked up for that low of a price.

BrasilSoccer0

02-02-13, 09:38

MrSoulo

02-02-13, 12:37

I was there on November 2010 and even 40 CUCs was laughable to them. But then again don't know the quality of chica you picked up for that low of a price.No Sammy, you don't know the quality of chica I picked up and you most probably never will.

I can honestly tell you that I DON'T bang ugly females. I can also tell you that I prefer petite Mulattas. 18-21 yrs old, pretty face, with a full set of straight white teeth, has long dark curly hair, unblemished skin and a nice round firm ass (titties are not that important to me. I'm an ass man and proud of it).

My idea of beauty are as follows: Eva Mendes, Vanessa Hudgens, Halle Berry, Kerry Washington, Zoe Saldana, Adriana Lima, Kat Graham, Cassie (singer) , Kidada Jones, Amarie (singer) , Leila Arcieri, Selena Gomez, Rosa Acosta, Alana Marie, and Jamie Foxx's 18 yr old daughter. Just to name a few.

So I can tell you all of this and you'll probably still think the chica I snagged for $20 was ugly. I can also tell you that a few times I have slept with beautiful chicas without having to pay them, but I doubt you would believe this either. This is simply because of your own personal experience. I understand, believe me, I do.

I will say this, every man on this site have had different experiences. Some have not had to pay for sex on occasion, some have paid regular rates, some have paid crazy cheap rates and some have OVER paid tremendously. Every situation is different and every woman is different and this is why I only paid $20 CUC.

Golds

02-02-13, 17:20

Tibu1969

02-02-13, 18:49

Just a questions to all the Havana guys, is it really so bad the attitude of Havana girls? Is their really not find a good one? I mean who comes to your house for 50 cuc all in NO taxi money for 1 hour but with full service, full service I mean everything, owo, cim etc.It highly depends on where you find / chase your chica.

Do you really expect a bargain when going to Salon Rojo, La Cecilia, Casa de la Musica where only pros hang around? This can happen, but chances are 1 out of 10. Don't forget there are lots of other "travellers" who find 80$ a great bargain when comparing it to their home countries. Silly, but you always meet these people.

If you have time. And this is really the issue. You can find someone on the street who will not have a chulo and who is not dedicated to chasing foreigners in clubs. Meaning she will accept anything you give to her ($30 max).

Golds

02-02-13, 19:29

Other question give the 80 cuc chicas full service, and full is OWO, CIM etc,......?

Tibu1969

02-02-13, 19:59

Other question give the 80 cuc chicas full service, and full is OWO, CIM etc.OWO is standard in Cuba. No worries about that.

CIM is a problem for every 2nd chica, I would guess. Especially pros will deny. After my little xperience LOL.

Fact is: it does not matter what you pay. It matters where you meet her. You meet her in the street and you will get whatever you like. You meet her in the club, and you will pay for every "extra".

Good hunting!

Rock Harders

02-03-13, 00:00

All the girls I pull out of Salon Rojo and / or La Cecilia (costing 70/80 CUC) always are game for BBBJ, CIM, and more often than not BBFS. Naturally YMMV and this may depend on your personal appearance / hygiene and ability to speak Spanish.

Other question give the 80 cuc chicas full service, and full is OWO, CIM etc,.???????????????,

Start123

02-03-13, 04:14

Other question give the 80 cuc chicas full service, and full is OWO, CIM etc.I am not an expert on Cuba and my Spanish sucks. Chicas think I am naive too and they can take advantage of me. But, thanks to this board I know a little bit more what they think I do.

Yes. They will ask for 50-80 CUC in Havana and will try to convince you this is the norm! Their acting skills are great too!

Yes I have kicked out of by bed a naked chick who was a 9. 5 asking for 50 CUC!

Even if you end up in a place like Casa de la Musica with hardened pros, look around! There aren't enough costumers for all of them. At the end of the night. 45 cuc is what they ask. And you know what? I can walk around the corner and find the same quality for 20!

BBFS is pretty common. I hope I didn't get anything. Now I am thinking if it was a good idea.

Ask any taxi driver if he knows girls who "work" with tourist. They can bring you several!

Better yet, get out of Havana. I had a girl who's dream was to be a model for 4 days. I gave her less than 40 cuc and she seemed to be happy. She wasn't a pro. So my advice. Ask around. Say hello to girls on the street.

If you had to go to a club. Wait after midnight!

Marlo2000

02-03-13, 05:11

I'm not going to tell you you over paid or you are ruining the prices for everyone else. Etc Who knows, some men have an inferiority complex with hot girls or some compulsive spending disorder (I see a lot of both in the states). I will share this simple story with those who want to read it:

Havana streets 2011, I spot a chica while in my taxi, we stop, I invite her over. Girl has a nice slim and curvy body, perfect waist to hip ratio and nice round butt, with beautiful face, mouth, nice blonde hair. Bla. Bla. You follow me? Girl asks for 50cuc for a st. This is where most of us will either, counter, or accept, yes? Well, I decided to make a point that night with this chica. So what did I do?

I yelled the price back and laughed in her face. My eyes wide open asking her are you fucking crazy. Not over yet. Then I open the door (while she is still inside) I bolt out of the taxi and start running away yelling 50cuc. 50cuc! Mind you this was in a hot chicas p4p area where other sexy Wgs and chulos where hanging around.

That same night, I just went to the seaside (not in a busy section) two blocks from my casa, to calm down and just forget about the ridiculous prices these Lazy ass birches got the nerve to ask for when the average salary of a decent Cubans is around 10-20cuc. I actually met a nice 18-19 yrs old girl with her baby brother and her cousins or neighbor sitting and eating those peanuts on the same area. We chat up, I buy them more of those nuts and decided it was late for her and that she needed to return home with her baby brother. Next morning had a very nice session with her. Real sweet girl who wanted to spend the whole day with me but had to go back home at night. I was a gentlemen with her, breakfast, lunch and 10cuc. She came back the next two days! Lucky me, she lives in the same neighborhood so it was a convenience for both.

Long story short, I wasn't even supposed to be in Havana, but because the stupid airlines left my luggage back in Bogota on my way to the provinces, where I find normal girls, I had to wait in Havana to receive it.

I wanted to send a msg to that girl and the others around her "some of us Yumas aren't that stupid or desperate and will leave your spoiled pop-culture infested ass for the provinces"

BTY, there are girls in Havana for 20-30cuc, I just love the attitude of the chicas and the people of the provinces way more.

And those high prices you pay in SR, just ask the chica, what's the chulo's cut?

BS.Amen brother. And after several years of being on this site, someone has finally gotten me to post. It always amazes me the amounts of money i read some of these guys will give girls. The point is why would you give a girl that much money when she has no way in hell of making that kind of money. Reminds me of when i went to the dominican. I never gave any of those broads i pulled more than 1000-1500 pesos. And that was to stay all night into the next day. Oh, and i don't speak a lick of spanish, other than the fact that i'm from texas. Hola homie! The fact that i'm good looking i'm quite sure has a lot to do with it, but at the same time; my common sense has everything to do with it. I offer a girl 1000 pesos and she scoffs at that. I tell, head your ass back in the club and stand with the other 100 girls. 2 mins later smile at her as you pass her up leaving the club with another stunner. The point being gentlemen is that the women need you. And not the other way around.

My fav girl i met in the dominican was in boca chica. Met her in some club one night. Came back to my room with me and stayed till about 2pm the next day. 1000 pesos. Called up her a few days later and asked her to come back over. It was my last night in town. Showed up that night. We went dancing. Back to my place. Next morning, she packed my bag for me and ironed my clothes. Gave her 1000 pesos as we were walking out the door. Said, damn. I'm broke. She gave me the 1000 pesos back.

MrSoulo

02-03-13, 08:20

Hectorgonz

02-04-13, 10:16

Vedado Fun

02-04-13, 18:30

Just a questions to all the Havana guys, is it really so bad the attitude of Havana girls? Is their really not find a good one? I mean who comes to your house for 50 cuc all in NO taxi money for 1 hour but with full service, full service I mean everything, owo, cim etc.Yes a lot of the hardcore girls have bad attitudes and many are terrible at business.

I'm always amazed at how so many of them have a set price and they won't budge from it.

Always make sure you fully discuss the price and services before you take them back to your casa.

I met a really beautiful chica in Centro Havana one day. She was around 19 and stunning. Definitely a 9. 5 or 10.

I invited her back to my casa without discussing anything. We stripped off and had fun in the shower kissing etc.

I get her on the bed and she mentions money.

I say 25 or 30 CUC. She says no 100. I told her that I was sorry and that I didn't realize she was a professional and told her to leave.

I never pay more than 30 CUC. Most times I pay 25 CUC or less. If they ask for 80 or 100 CUC and just laugh at them and say goodbye.

Last time I was in Havana I met a nice slender chica on Calle 25.

She was pretty hot but she asked for 100 CUC so I just told her that she was crazy and that I had been to Havana more than 30 times and that I would never pay that price.

A day or two later I meet her again in the same place along with a friend. There were quite a few chicas around there this evening and I had lots of offers.

The slender one started chatting with me again and asked me to take her. I told her I would only pay 25 CUC. This time she agreed and I took her back to my casa.

She was fairly attractive with a stunning body but she turned out to be one of the worst I ever had in bed. She did so much fake moaning etc that it really turned me off.

It was so bad that I couldn't finish but pretended I did. I gave her the 25 CUC to get rid of her plus I would never cheat anyone on a deal anyhow.

After she left I went back out and got a regular one I know who lives 3 minutes away from my casa. I paid her 15 CUC and had her regular fantastic service.

Paying more money will never guarantee good or better service. Some chicas are fantastic and some aren't. Just like some guys are nice and some aren't so nice.

There should be no problem at all getting 2 chicas for a couple of hours or more for 50 CUC. If I want 2 I just ask one that I like to bring along a friend.

Most chicas will do most things but some won't. That all depends on you and the chica.

MrSoulo

02-05-13, 17:13

This is a question for the more seasoned Havana mongers. Will the girls there have any problems staying with me for a few days and hang around for the GFE? I don't mind negotiating a deal provided I can find a suitable gal to wake up to everyday.Yes, this is possible. It won't be easy but it won't be extremely difficult either. Your best bet is to walk around town and pick up a regular girl. Someone that works in a store or is in school. Try to avoid the nightclubs because they're usually filled with hardcore pros that will bleed you dry.

Good luck.

MrSoulo

02-05-13, 17:42

Amen brother. And after several years of being on this site, someone has finally gotten me to post. It always amazes me the amounts of money I read some of these guys will give girls. The point is why would you give a girl that much money when she has no way in hell of making that kind of money. Reminds me of when I went to the dominican. I never gave any of those broads I pulled more than 1000-1500 pesos. And that was to stay all night into the next day. Oh, and I don't speak a lick of spanish, other than the fact that I'm from texas. Hola homie! The fact that I'm good looking I'm quite sure has a lot to do with it, but at the same time; my common sense has everything to do with it. I offer a girl 1000 pesos and she scoffs at that. I tell, head your ass back in the club and stand with the other 100 girls. 2 mins later smile at her as you pass her up leaving the club with another stunner. The point being gentlemen is that the women need you. And not the other way around.

My fav girl I met in the dominican was in boca chica. Met her in some club one night. Came back to my room with me and stayed till about 2pm the next day. 1000 pesos. Called up her a few days later and asked her to come back over. It was my last night in town. Showed up that night. We went dancing. Back to my place. Next morning, she packed my bag for me and ironed my clothes. Gave her 1000 pesos as we were walking out the door. Said, damn. I'm broke. She gave me the 1000 pesos back.I second that "AMEN"!

MrSoulo

02-05-13, 18:04

I'm not going to tell you you over paid or you are ruining the prices for everyone else. Etc Who knows, some men have an inferiority complex with hot girls or some compulsive spending disorder (I see a lot of both in the states). I will share this simple story with those who want to read it:

Havana streets 2011, I spot a chica while in my taxi, we stop, I invite her over. Girl has a nice slim and curvy body, perfect waist to hip ratio and nice round butt, with beautiful face, mouth, nice blonde hair. Bla. Bla. You follow me? Girl asks for 50cuc for a st. This is where most of us will either, counter, or accept, yes? Well, I decided to make a point that night with this chica. So what did I do?

I yelled the price back and laughed in her face. My eyes wide open asking her are you fucking crazy. Not over yet. Then I open the door (while she is still inside) I bolt out of the taxi and start running away yelling 50cuc. 50cuc! Mind you this was in a hot chicas p4p area where other sexy Wgs and chulos where hanging around.

That same night, I just went to the seaside (not in a busy section) two blocks from my casa, to calm down and just forget about the ridiculous prices these Lazy ass birches got the nerve to ask for when the average salary of a decent Cubans is around 10-20cuc. I actually met a nice 18-19 yrs old girl with her baby brother and her cousins or neighbor sitting and eating those peanuts on the same area. We chat up, I buy them more of those nuts and decided it was late for her and that she needed to return home with her baby brother. Next morning had a very nice session with her. Real sweet girl who wanted to spend the whole day with me but had to go back home at night. I was a gentlemen with her, breakfast, lunch and 10cuc. She came back the next two days! Lucky me, she lives in the same neighborhood so it was a convenience for both.

Long story short, I wasn't even supposed to be in Havana, but because the stupid airlines left my luggage back in Bogota on my way to the provinces, where I find normal girls, I had to wait in Havana to receive it.

I wanted to send a msg to that girl and the others around her "some of us Yumas aren't that stupid or desperate and will leave your spoiled pop-culture infested ass for the provinces"

BTY, there are girls in Havana for 20-30cuc, I just love the attitude of the chicas and the people of the provinces way more.

And those high prices you pay in SR, just ask the chica, what's the chulo's cut?

BS.Dude, I was cheering when I read this post of yours! I agree with you 100% These beeznitches need to be taught a lesson and these European men NEED to STOP OVERPAYING the chicas.

Let's put this in perspective. The average monthly income in Cuba is $20 CUC. Below is a list of the average monthly income of 20 countries. So if you were to pay a chica $20 CUC, it would be the equivalent of these amounts.

Rank Country Average Wage (USD)

1 Luxembourg 4, 089.

2 Norway 3, 678.

3 Austria 3, 437.

4 United States 3, 263.

5 United Kingdom 3, 065.

6 Belgium 3, 035.

7 Sweden 3, 023.

8 Ireland 2, 997.

9 Finland 2, 925.

10 Korea 2, 903.

11 France 2, 886.

12 Canada 2, 724.

13 Germany 2, 720.

14 Singapore 2, 616.

15 Australia 2, 610.

16 Cyprus 2, 605.

17 Japan 2, 522.

18 Italy 2, 445.

19 Iceland 2, 431.

20 Spain 2, 352.

So to all my Italian friends. When you pay a chica $100 CUC, like you often do, it's the eqivalent of paying them $24, 450 USD! Hate to tell you this Italianos, but NO Pussy in the WORLD is worth THAT much!

Chaman

02-06-13, 06:01

I partially agree with you, its true that 100 is way too much, but also the true is that I don think anyone lives with 20 CUC.

What you mean is that with 20 CUC you get like 400 cuban pesos, somethings.

Are cheap, you can have a coffe for 1 pesos, take the bus for 20 cents, may be get a pork sandwich for 10 cuban pesos. But Have you drink a beer in La habana, it cost you at leas 1 CUC.

If you need soap, shamoo, clothes, everithing cost you in CUCs. An Cuba is one of the most expensive countries I have seen for buying any goods, for example if you want a TV or a refrigerator.

So how much you pay in other places? May be 50 or 100, or more for a girl, why not respect this girls too and pay them fairly.

I'm not talking of giving a hundred, but if its a nice girl and treat you well maybe give a litte more.

Dude, I was cheering when I read this post of yours! I agree with you 100% These beeznitches need to be taught a lesson and these European men NEED to STOP OVERPAYING the chicas.

Let's put this in perspective. The average monthly income in Cuba is $20 CUC. Below is a list of the average monthly income of 20 countries. So if you were to pay a chica $20 CUC, it would be the equivalent of these amounts.

Rank Country Average Wage (USD)

1 Luxembourg 4, 089.

2 Norway 3, 678.

3 Austria 3, 437.

4 United States 3, 263.

5 United Kingdom 3, 065.

6 Belgium 3, 035.

7 Sweden 3, 023.

8 Ireland 2, 997.

9 Finland 2, 925.

10 Korea 2, 903.

11 France 2, 886.

12 Canada 2, 724.

13 Germany 2, 720.

14 Singapore 2, 616.

15 Australia 2, 610.

16 Cyprus 2, 605.

17 Japan 2, 522.

18 Italy 2, 445.

19 Iceland 2, 431.

20 Spain 2, 352.

So to all my Italian friends. When you pay a chica $100 CUC, like you often do, it's the eqivalent of paying them $24, 450 USD! Hate to tell you this Italianos, but NO Pussy in the WORLD is worth THAT much!

MrSoulo

02-06-13, 11:22

i partially agree with you, its true that 100 is way too much, but also the true is that i don think anyone lives with 20 cuc.

what you mean is that with 20 cuc you get like 400 cuban pesos, somethings.

are cheap, you can have a coffe for 1 pesos, take the bus for 20 cents, may be get a pork sandwich for 10 cuban pesos. but have you drink a beer in la habana, it cost you at leas 1 cuc.

if you need soap, shamoo, clothes, everithing cost you in cucs. an cuba is one of the most expensive countries i have seen for buying any goods, for example if you want a tv or a refrigerator.

so how much you pay in other places? may be 50 or 100, or more for a girl, why not respect this girls too and pay them fairly.

i'm not talking of giving a hundred, but if its a nice girl and treat you well maybe give a litte more.a. $20 cuc is $500 cuban pesos.

b. how much money do you really need when you don't have to pay rent, medication, medicals, education, school books, etc. and everything else is heavily subsidized by the government?

c. i grew up in a country much more poor than cuba and we had to pay overly inflated prices for all of the above and our government did not guarantee us a job. what they did guarantee us was misery, secret death squads, midnight kidnappings, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), robbery and long lines at government stores for basic foodstuffs. while supplies last. at least fidel took care of his people.

d. as poor as we were, none of the women in my family spent the nights in discos and got fucked for money. there was also no alcohol in our house and none of us had multiple fancy outfits to wear. nor did we have nike, adidas and puma on our feet like the cubans do. i don't see any cuban walking around in rags.

e. we also didn't have a tv, we listened to the radio, read books, played cards, dominoes and board games and told each other stories at night. that was our entertainment and we were happy.

f. we never felt sorry for ourselves nor did we expect other people to feel sorry for us. and i don't want anyone reading this to feel sorry for the life my family and i lived. so obviously i don't feel sorry for the cubans because that would be an insult to them.

g. don't compare the prices for girls in other places to cuba. every country is different and has different circumstances and it has nothing to do with respect or lack thereof. when things are put into perspective you can clearly see that one month's salary for a few hours of fun and sex is very generous. especially considering that they f*k their cheating deadbeat boyfriends for free and all they get from that is heartache and pregnant.

h. all that being said, i don't feel sorry for any cuban chica selling herself. that's her choice, she chose to do that because she wants all the fancy material possessions. there are many many decent cuban women who do not prostitute themselves, they are content with what they have and they work hard for the little extras and they choose to live the same way my family and i did.

just had to get this off my chest, it's been a long time coming because i'm tired of these misled, bleeding hearts that have been conned by the chicas.

elvis has left the building!

The Dirty Pirate

02-06-13, 14:41

In my experience, while I have never paid 100 CUC, what I have fucked for 20. 40 CUC is never as good looking as the girls I paid 60.

Keiser

02-09-13, 00:39

In my experience, while I have never paid 100 CUC, what I have fucked for 20. 40 CUC is never as good looking as the girls I paid 60.Been 30 times to the Island. Reasonable spanish, a lot of locat mixing. I will tell you one "truth". Pay what they ask (you may chit-chat that it's way too much, never paid to anybody that much, I'm not bobo, but be / see you are really nice girl I will give you that much, blah blah, ect, but will give to you if you will be really really good, etc) or skip it and get next chick for the half-price of the first. And as it been here said many times, quality of sex and chikas does not depend AT ALL (at least in Cuba) how much you pay, but rather what kind of "bird" is she and where you find her. The reason why I said "pay what she asks" is that if you will bang down 50, you will get 50% less fun from her side, as she will feel in her mind that you paid just for "a bit", any way, whatever way you frase it, just pay (with some chit-chat) or get next. It's not worth spending $ and most importantly time (and your balls0 on low-quality fun if you have paid airfaire, hotels, taken time-off, etc, just have fun.

Keiser

02-09-13, 00:48

Have been few times en la capital but havnt' seen (havn't looked specially). Are in Havana any OUTDOOR places (restaurants, etc) where live music plays calm romantic songs and no any other crap (techno, hip-hop, etc) , like Echa a mi culpa. 40 why 20, Robero Carlos and Hasta Siempre? In santiago for example tehre is such place (open since some 3 years) it calls paradilla Fortaleza (real oak wood tables, bier from real steins, etc) its in Vista Alegre just behind La Maison, very veru close to Melia and Palaza de Ferreiro.

ThirstyTravel

02-09-13, 22:43

Been 30 times to the Island. Reasonable spanish, a lot of locat mixing. I will tell you one "truth". Pay what they ask (you may chit-chat that it's way too much, never paid to anybody that much, I'm not bobo, but be / see you are really nice girl I will give you that much, blah blah, ect, but will give to you if you will be really really good, etc) or skip it and get next chick for the half-price of the first. And as it been here said many times, quality of sex and chikas does not depend AT ALL (at least in Cuba) how much you pay, but rather what kind of "bird" is she and where you find her. The reason why I said "pay what she asks" is that if you will bang down 50, you will get 50% less fun from her side, as she will feel in her mind that you paid just for "a bit", any way, whatever way you frase it, just pay (with some chit-chat) or get next. It's not worth spending $ and most importantly time (and your balls0 on low-quality fun if you have paid airfaire, hotels, taken time-off, etc, just have fun.Hahaha. Spoken like a seasoned professional.

I totally agree.

Adinga

02-10-13, 04:59

Unfortunatley most of the live music in Havana is performed during the evening hours.

Havana tends to be dead during the day and begins to come alive at 9. 30 pm.

If your into great jazz go to the Jazz Cafe located across the street from the Cohiba Hotel in Vedado.

LionPitch

02-10-13, 13:49

Dude, I was cheering when I read this post of yours! I agree with you 100% These beeznitches need to be taught a lesson and these European men NEED to STOP OVERPAYING the chicas.

Let's put this in perspective. The average monthly income in Cuba is $20 CUC. Below is a list of the average monthly income of 20 countries. So if you were to pay a chica $20 CUC, it would be the equivalent of these amounts.

Rank Country Average Wage (USD)

1 Luxembourg 4, 089.

2 Norway 3, 678.

3 Austria 3, 437.

4 United States 3, 263.

5 United Kingdom 3, 065.

6 Belgium 3, 035.

7 Sweden 3, 023.

8 Ireland 2, 997.

9 Finland 2, 925.

10 Korea 2, 903.

11 France 2, 886.

12 Canada 2, 724.

13 Germany 2, 720.

14 Singapore 2, 616.

15 Australia 2, 610.

16 Cyprus 2, 605.

17 Japan 2, 522.

18 Italy 2, 445.

19 Iceland 2, 431.

20 Spain 2, 352.

So to all my Italian friends. When you pay a chica $100 CUC, like you often do, it's the eqivalent of paying them $24, 450 USD! Hate to tell you this Italianos, but NO Pussy in the WORLD is worth THAT much!MrSoulo,

I do not quite agree with you when you compare income Western countries with the price of cuban pussies. Because in our countries you have a currency and the price is the same for everyone. In Cuba there are two currencies and even if you are cuban, you have to pay a lot of imported products only in CUC.

The entrance to the cecilia when there is a good group (I e gente de zona) is 25 cuc you're Cuban or not. So you can not say you should only rely on their wages to pay.

I'm in France (2800 euros per month depending on your rank) and Imagine I have to pay 2800 euros to go clubbing! So it's not that simple!

For me the right price varies between 50 and 80 CUC (for us Europeans from 40 to 60 euros) , but I never pay for sex, I give money to help them para "luchar"

Paracite

02-10-13, 20:09

Gentlemen – first off I wanted thank everyone on the forum for putting out tons of great information on the Havana mongering scene, I definitely wouldn't have done the trip without this information and all of the trip reports that enticed me to book. This trip report is a bit stale, I went to Cuba from December 18 – 24, and stayed in Havana the whole time. I've been so tied up with work that I just haven't had a moment to write the report. The details are a bit hazey, but I'm sure the pictures will help make up for some lack of detail.

One thing that did put me off about Havana is the amount of hustle that you feel at all times everywhere. You feel like everyone is trying to get their piece and that you can't really connect with people. This feeling has worn off quite a bit since I've been back in the states, and does not come through much in my trip report. Be aware of this when you head down, the hustle is strong.

*SKIP DOWN TO DAY 1 IF YOU DON'T NEED INFO ON TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS*

Prior to going on my trip I bought Euros from my bank as you get smacked with a 10% tax in Cuba when you convert USD to CUC's. When I calculated the net savings, I ended up saving around 6. 7% by doing this.

*Housing Arrangements.

I found a website of casa particulares with good reviews at livingcuba. Com, where I ended up choosing Casa Melvis. It's a decent place in Old Havana, and very close to the museo revolucion, which was helpful in guiding the taxis back to the apartment late at night. The house has 2 good size bedrooms, a very large living / dining room and a 1 large and 1 small balcony. The lady that runs the place is very accommodating, and didn't have any issues with me bringing back girls, she just warned me to watch my stuff which I should have heeded more.

From the pictures, it looked like this may be one of the nicer houses, and I expected Old Havana to be a bit like Old Town Cartagena. While the apartment is very clean, big, and cheap ($60 / night for a 2 bedroom) , next time in Havana I will try to find the equivalent of a luxurious casa particular, probably in the Vedado area closer to the nightclubs.

*Flights / Getting to Havana.

I am a US citizen living in NYC and found that the best route to take to minimize flight time was NYC. Cancun. Havana on the way down, and then Havana. Mexico City. NYC on the way back. I was able to book my flights through nashtravel. Com, and they also include the Cuban Tourist Card / Visa in the price of the tickets. They tack on $50 transaction fee, but the convenience of using them and the piece of mind made it a necessary evil IMO.

The flight down to Cancun was as normal as possible, but once there the transfer to my Cubana flight was in another terminal, which ended up wasting time and had me sweating about missing my flight. Once in the right terminal, an airport employee mentioned to me and a few other Americans that we needed a visa to get into Cuba, and it must be payed in Mexican pesos which I could get from an ATM at the other end of the terminal, and to top it off he said the allotment of Visas for the day may be out. He tries to calm my nerves by saying there will be another flight to Havana in 2 days, and all I can think about is my whole trip going down the drain. As I'm panicking, I remember getting the tourist card from NashTravel, and that was the card he was referring to. Good for me, not good for the 3 other gringos in the same position as me and no tourist card, that $50 transaction fee is looking worth it now! I check into my cubana flight no problem, breeze through security and grab a Johnny rockets burger as I wait to board the flight. Once on the plane, I get to stretch out a good amount and it is on a fairly new Embraer or Airbus, I forget.

I arrived in Havana around 6:30 with minimal issues, only light questioning while going through customs and then they sent me on my way. The casa particular that I was staying with arranged for a taxi and one of the employees (Lily) to come with to pick me up, which calmed any nerves. I exchanged a lot of the Euros I brought with to CUC's and was on my way over to the casa particular with my tour guide Lily.

*Day 1 – Tuesday

Once I was settled into the apartment and did a bit of a grocery run to stock up on snacks and mixers, it was almost 9ish. I headed over to El Floridita to meet up with a fellow monger I met online. We grabbed a daiquiri to check the tourist box, and then headed over to La Maison to grab a bite and then check out the talent. Once there, it was a dead scene, very few people there and not much in terms of chicas from what we could see. We hung around there for dinner, which was a great seafood paella for $15CUC which was more than enough for 2. There was a tout / taxi driver there that was actually pretty nice and low pressure that brought by a couple girls, but I didn't want to settle just yet. They mentioned a club called 'Melia' close to the Hotel Melia Cohiba was a hot spot tonight, so we headed over there after dinner, which was already getting a bit late.

The Melia was a good looking crowd with good music you'the expect in a typical US club, but unfortunately it looked like the well-to-do Havana crowd that wasn't interested in being a hooker right in front of their friends. By the time we finished a couple drinks and decided to cut our losses, it was already 1AM-ish, and would probably be too late to hit one of the regular bars. Our taxi driver suggested to go by La Maison as he knew a couple girls there. I didn't like being shuttled back to the place, but didn't want to end up empty handed the first night.

Back outside of La Maison, I met one girl that looked good enough for the first night. I think her name was Yakelin (like Jacqueline) , but I don't remember exactly. I usually go for a thinner girl, but Yakelin was giving me a good vibe and we locked up the negotiations. I was very explicit about the services I was expecting to get, including BBBJ and she had no issue with doing that or talking about it. In most other countries I don't like to get into explicit details with the girls as it kills the mood a bit, but that doesn't seem to be the case at all in Cuba.

Back at my apartment we grabbed a few drinks, danced, and smoked a bit while making out like teenagers. We moved things over to the bedroom where she was quite a giver with the BBBJ. While she wasn't giving off any odor down below, I should have asked her to shower up a bit as it wasn't quite fresh enough for me to think about spending some time eating her out. I fucked her for the next 40 minutes or so before painting a map of Hawaii all over her stomach. I was quite worn out from all the traveling today and was too drunk and tired to go another round. She hung around and cuddled / kissed for a bit before making her way out.

I pounded a Gatorade to rehydrate after the workout and thought it was a decent start to the trip, but a little disappointed I didn't really see one of the chica clubs.

*Day 2 – Wednesday (Salon Rojo)

I woke up around 11AM and was a bit surprised to find the maid cleaned up the apartment and was waiting to cook me breakfast. I would have cleaned up the used condom if I knew she'the be cleaning in the morning. After breakfast at the apartment, I spent the day sightseeing with Lily from livingcuba. Com. Lily was my tour guide for regular tourist stuff $20CUC / day, but did not speak English. Havana has some wonderful sights, but you can find out more about that from other forums and guide books.

I grabbed a bite around 6PM at Dona Eutimia, which is rated the #1 restaurant in Havana by tripadvisor, and is close to the Cathedral. They have GREAT food at very reasonable prices, highly recommended. If you show up early in the evening or for lunch you do not need a reservation, if you come at another time, good luck getting a table!

I spent a bit of time back at the apartment relaxing before getting cleaned up and pregaming for the night. I headed over to Salon Rojo around 10PM with a good buzz going, and I believe cover that night was $10CUC. Once inside I quickly realized I was a bit early, there were maybe a handful of guys there and tables and tables filled with girls dressed to the nines all for your enjoyment, I felt like I died and went to heaven!

I've been to freelance bars in Shanghai and Cartagena, but I don't think any place outside Havana can compare with the sheer number of girls, overall quality of talent, and on the downside, the aggressive sell these girls put on. I was hounded constantly by girl after girl, some cute, some scary, but it was too early in the night to fix on a girl. You will be constantly harassed and my solution was just to buy one good looking girl a drink and spend time talking to her and feeling her out, it keeps the other girls away even if you know you won't go home with her. Beware, Salon Rojo can be an intimidating situation if you aren't comfortable with girls constantly approaching you. As I was eyeing the room, there were a few girls that stood out from the sea of pussy, and I knew I needed to take one of them home. I started to chat up this really hot blonde with an amazingly tight body, but she knew she was one of the best there and wouldn't back down from $150CUC for 2 rounds ($100CUC would only get me 1 round). I didn't like her vibe so I sent her on her way and decided to track down a sultry brunette I was eyeing from a distance all night, Dayana. Dayana is the type of girl that oozes sex appeal and knows how to control the whole room. I introduced myself and suggested we grab a drink and get to know each other, which she happily agreed to. We spent the next chunk of time with her alternating from teaching me how to salsa to her just grinding her ass into my crotch with the music.

By now I just couldn't take the tease anymore and told her we should discuss the specifics about her coming back to my place. I started to tick through what I wanted that night, to which she responded no problem and started laying on some heavy DFK in the club, sold! We headed back to my apartment in her regular taxi, and started to get hot and heavy in the cab on the way. The taxi was $5 or $10CUC, I can't recall. We danced, drank, and made out for a bit before taking it to the main attraction. Again, I wish I had her hop in the shower so I could spend time down below, but that kills a bit of the chemistry. This girl had an amazingly tight body, which I found to be the case quite a few times in Havana, not an ounce of fat on her! We fucked in the bedroom, on the sofa, over the dining table and back to the bedroom for quite awhile without the girl asking for my leche or complaining, this girl could take a good pounding. I think I'm in love, but it could just be the lack of blood in my big head at the time.

We made out for awhile before I let her take off, I was too tired to go for the second round after the great first session. She could use some help perfecting her BBBJ method, but it's a crime to spend more time with that than enjoying her amazing body.

*Day 3 – Thursday (Salon Rojo)

I spent Thursday doing some more sightseeing in the city, things were getting a bit windy and I thought I may be getting a bit sick. I said fuck that and decided to do a return visit to Salon Rojo. This night I was a lot more comfortable with the surroundings and had fun flirting up a few girls and found myself quite trashed. Dayana was looking great again today, but I wanted to get some variety. As I stumbled through the masses of girls I saw a hot blonde walking right past me, I grabbed her arm and it was on. Luisa Maria and I spent some time talking with me getting drunker until we settled on the details and headed over to my apartment.

Back at the apartment we actually spent a lot of time talking about Cuba, and about her raising 1 kid as an only mother. It was interesting to have a real conversation with her, but not exactly great foreplay. Eventually we made our way over to the bedroom, this girl is extremely sensual, more passionate sex than the fuck your brains out session last night. Unfortunately Luisa Maria's body shows some signs of being a mother that I didn't expect. I'm not sure what was wrong with me this trip but I was lasting a lot longer than I normally do. After the 1st round I wasn't looking to go another round immediately, but I did want Luisa Maria to spend the night. She was very adamant about going back home to be with her kid, and said TLN only meant a few hours and not all night. I was too tired to keep the arguing going, and let her head out.

In Havana it seemed difficult to get a girl to spend all night, with all different types of excuses. I'm not sure what the key is to that, I'll explore more my next trip.

*Day 4 – Friday (La Cecilia)

I woke up Friday feeling like shit with a cold. I stayed in all day and the owner of the house and maid helped take care of me, which was extremely comforting in a foreign country. They also arranged for a palodor restaurant a couple blocks away, La Familia, to make me some awesome chicken soup. By the time the night rolled around I was feeling better and was ready to check out the famed La Cecilia. It was an extremely windy day and a bit colder, so I called up Luisa Maria to see if La Cecilia would still be open, which she assured me it would.

La Cecilia was not quite as amazing as I expected, which I think has to do with the slightly colder day. I ran into the monger friend I met the first night, and we spent a bit of time drinking and chatting up a couple girls. I was eyeing Natasha from a previous mongers report on another site, as she was looking good. Eventually I started to chat up a blonde from Holguin with an extremely tight body, which she happily displayed with bare midrift on a night when I was shivering with a jacket on, I love the commitment to the job. I was getting a good vibe from her and new I'the be taking Luisa home when Natasha came along and suggested I take both of them home, MIND BLOWN! We had a blast dancing a bit more at La Cecilia before we took it back to my apartment in 1 taxi. I had a feeling this was too good to be true, and it was.

Once in the apartment Natasha insisted on changing into one of my shirts, which I thought was strange but pretty hot to see her prancing around in my shirt and a boy shorts. Natasha also insisted on no photos, which I was annoyed with but whatever. I made the mistake of not laying out the ground rules beforehand, and Natasha starts bitching that it's a CBJ, only lfk, and all this other bullshit. I should have kicked her out, but the thought of a 3some with these girls was too enticing. Both pussies felt absolutely amazing but soon enough Natasha was bitching that I was taking too long and telling me that I should bust my nut. Of the 2, Luisa definitely had the better body and attitude, and seemed to be OK with sticking around for awhile. I finally gave up with Natasha, paid her and sent her on her way, as I wanted to just cut my losses. Unfortunately my losses were much more than I expected. The next morning I realized she took my shirt, cologne, a bottle of Ambien, and my watch which thankfully was just a knockoff. It was probably $300 worth of stuff in total, and pissed me off more because I was robbed than the monetary damage.

With Natasha gone, it was just Luisa and I. I found myself again thinking that Luisa has one of the tightest bodies I've ever seen, with absolutely perfect tits. Cubanas easily have the best bodies I've seen on whole. Luisa started off with a BBBJ, lots of dfk and took a strong pounding before I let her out.

Luisa asked to take a bunch of little trinkets that I brought along for the girls, which I happily gave her. I know she didn't take the stuff because she seemed shocked and extremely apologetic the other nights I saw her, and she was very open with what she was asking to take on her way out.

Below is Natasha's picture from another monger's report, STAY AWAY FROM THIS.

I did end up banging one of the girls without rubber, which felt amazing at the time but is definitely something one should be cautious about when mongering. I won't disclose which girl I did that with, sorry.

I'll continue on with the last 2 days at a later time.

*Day 5 – Saturday (La Cecilia)

So I start off the day feeling shitty again, having problems shaking the cold I got the day before. I was feeling pissed about the night before, particularly as I pieced together how much Natasha took off with. Be careful when doing a 3some guys, it is much harder to keep track of these trickier cubanas when numbers are on their side. On the bright side, I will cherish memories of Luisa's perfect body, too bad there aren't any pics to prove it.

I relaxed for a bit before wandering aimlessly through Havana, and toured through the Hotel Nacional for internet, food, and a bit of sightseeing. Nothing much else to report in terms of daytime activities, grabbed a bite to eat at La Familia again where they have a couple playing live music, and got myself ready for Cecilia again. Thankfully by mid-day I wasn't feeling any effects of the cold.

Cecilia was even quieter on Saturday than Friday night, I kept waiting for masses of girls to arrive, but I don't think the weather was helping out. I was joined by two girls from the provinces that I was just chatting with over drinks, one of which had very similar facial features to AnnaLynne McCord (Nip / Tuck and 90210 actress). Great tight body on her and really nice person, but I just didn't feel any chemistry with her so I excused myself.

I ran into Luisa again, who really wanted to go back with me and become my novia for the rest of my trip, little did she know I only had 2 nights left. I told her about how last night really left a bad taste in my mouth, and she seemed genuinely surprised when I told her all that was missing in the morning. It was apparent to me she wasn't in on it. I could've gotten her to do anything I wanted including the backdoor if I took her back, but I wanted some variety from my light skinned flaquitas over the past couple nights. Here I have a girl who would breeze past the velvet ropes of NYC's top clubs begging for me to fuck her silly, all for less than half of what I spend on an average night out. This is Cuba.

Out of the corner of my eye I see a hot mulatta with a great rack but a terrible sense of fashion; I need to rid her of those clothes immediately. I introduced myself to Gretel and we chatted for a while before agreeing to terms. On our way out she made us take 2 separate taxis, which is the only time this happened on my trip. Back at the apartment we did some more drinking and dancing before I finally let her most perfect natural C / D's out of the hideous dress. Recurring theme, these girls have AMAZING bodies. Gretel was a giver, and had the right amount of passion mixed with flat out sport fucking, probably the best lay of the trip. I need a stock of gatorade's on the side of my bed to keep hydrated during these sessions.

After the first round Gretel starts to make up some bullshit about having some internet class early in the morning and needing to take off soon. I put up a little bit of resistance, but in the end I pussy out and just let her take off. Next time I'm in Cuba, I need to be much more firm about how many rounds and how long they'll stay, I kept getting screwed but not cutting the $ to make it a fair deal. Live and learn.

*Day 6 – Sunday (Salon Rojo)

Sunday I was feeling much better and headed out to do a bit more sightseeing with Lily. I have to say Morro Castle and Old Havana are absolutely beautiful places and I highly recommend some time exploring Havana's beauty beyond the booty.

I grabbed one last meal at Dona Eutimia, I highly recommend the ropa vieja here, great stuff.

For my last night I thought about exploring a new place, but the last thing I wanted was a repeat of Tuesday night with the places that are dead. I had a 5AM flight to Mexico City, so I had to get in and out quickly to enjoy a new friend back at the apartment. So I went back to Salon Rojo, which was still packed with girls early on a Sunday night. It started off like other nights, dodging the ugly girls and aggressive sell tactics and killing some time with girls I wasn't too interested in. Luisa from the 3some with Natasha kept whispering dirrrrty things to me, and I should have taken her, but the association in my mind with the thief Natasha might have gotten in the way of an amazing session.

I started to chat up 2 separate girls that I was interested in, a stunning, tall, light skinned brunette and a terribly dressed skinny mulatta from Guantanamo that looked like she&146; the do dirty things, Yasmila. What is with the Mulattas and not knowing how to work it? I really wanted to go with the light skinned one, who was down with the BBBJ and dfk, but I just didn't get a good vibe, particularly when she tried to hook me up with an ugly friend instead! Before grabbing Yasmila, I flirted with this hot, petite little blonde that had piercings in her dimples, just the right amount of naughty. She wouldn't agree to anal though, and Yasmila would so that decided it, as I wanted to explore some greek islands on my last night in Havana.

I headed back to the apartment in the same taxi as her, which had to be one of the shittiest I've seen in Havana. I couldn't photograph her that well, just take my word that this girl has a sex appeal to her that is hard to capture, must be in the eyes. I knew I didn't have much time so I just jumped right into the action. I finally rid her of the hideous dress to reveal an amazingly tight body that has somehow concentrated all the fat into a perfect set of perky tits. I do not understand how all these girls have perfect bodies! My only 2 nits the whole trip: Luisa Maria had some war wounds from pregnancy and Natasha had surprisingly little ass on her. If you look at any of my other trip reports, you'll see that I am usually pretty critical. Cubanas don't have the best faces, but those bodies make me forget about the silicone I so dearly love in Colombia.

After some intense DFK, Yasmila starts off with a great sloppy BBBJ, I know this will be good. Once we get going she is really tight and a good fuck, good enough to where I forget about anal for the first round. I had a good time and am looking forward to round 2, particularly that culo, and then it starts. She starts bitching about having a headache and needing to rest. I let her know if she leaves now, she only gets half the money which is generous given I didn't tap the culo yet. She said that was fair, and I gave her a few advil on the way out, to which she seemed very appreciative. She asked me to wait with her in the cold lobby for her cab, I said fuck that and let her out into the cold to wait on her own. She could have waited in the apartment, but didn't want to waste a minute on the cal.

I finished packing a few things and headed to the airport shortly thereafter.

*Getting back to the US.

I flew back to NYC through Mexico City, which unfortunately meant leaving for the airport around 3:30AM in the morning. At the airport I exchanged whatever CUC's I had left into USD with the guard standing outside right in front of the currency exchange counter. He gave me a 1:1 exchange rate back to USD, much better than the currency xchange and all of the bills were legit.

The route back was very uneventful, Cuba does not stamp your passport at entry or exit. Mexico City did stamp my passport upon entry which made me a little worried as it would seem odd to have 2 entry stamps without a stamp from another country in between. It was a non-issue back in the states, I breezed through immigration and customs without a hitch, and I am part of the most targeted demographic out there. If you are worried about US immigration grilling you on the way back, you really don't have much to worry about.

Paracite

02-10-13, 20:10

And here are Yasmila and Yakelin from my trip

MrSoulo

02-11-13, 02:19

MrSoulo,

I do not quite agree with you when you compare income Western countries with the price of cuban pussies. Because in our countries you have a currency and the price is the same for everyone. In Cuba there are two currencies and even if you are cuban, you have to pay a lot of imported products only in CUC.

The entrance to the cecilia when there is a good group (I e gente de zona) is 25 cuc you're Cuban or not. So you can not say you should only rely on their wages to pay.

I'm in France (2800 euros per month depending on your rank) and Imagine I have to pay 2800 euros to go clubbing! So it's not that simple!

For me the right price varies between 50 and 80 CUC (for us Europeans from 40 to 60 euros) , but I never pay for sex, I give money to help them para "luchar"Going to a nightclub is not a necessity of life, it's a luxury. And the only reason a Chica is going there and paying $25 CUC to get in is to prostitute herself. That's a business she's operating, so it doesn't count.

And what makes you think all those girls pay to get in anyways? Just like in Europe and North America some girls get in for free because they either know someone or is fucking someone or the security is pimping them. C'mon dude, get with the program and learn how shit really works. No offence.

Anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine. So let's just say we agree to disagree. Have fun on your next trip. I know I will. At $20 a pop. LOL.

Velasco

02-11-13, 08:22

And here are Yasmila and Yakelin from my tripThanks for that amazing report. All those women are smoking hot, though they are a bit too flaca for me. The only exception is Yakelin, she has the PERFECT amount of meat on her bones, and the way those bangs stop just short of her eyes.

Funny that she has the Union Jack plastered over her clothing. There was a story on BBC recently about how Cubans have fallen in love with the UK flag. I have attached a link to the video below.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21082793

LionPitch

02-11-13, 19:26

I agree with you my friend! I agree when you say they are trying to fuck us. Even if they don't pay the entrance to the disco, they will suck cock and be exploited.

Never forget, they are even harder them, they steal them each other!

We can't ever fight for a piece of bread between us, some of them would be able to fuck everyone for this piece of bread.

We, you and me and all our friends and fellow mongers on this site, have principles and values.

We are a big family. I have more confidence in you, MRSoulo, that any Cuban!

So No problem MRSoulo, we could disagree but we are fellow mongers a large congregation!

See you on the road dude!

Lionpitch

Going to a nightclub is not a necessity of life, it's a luxury. And the only reason a Chica is going there and paying $25 CUC to get in is to prostitute herself. That's a business she's operating, so it doesn't count.

And what makes you think all those girls pay to get in anyways? Just like in Europe and North America some girls get in for free because they either know someone or is fucking someone or the security is pimping them. C'mon dude, get with the program and learn how shit really works. No offence.

Anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine. So let's just say we agree to disagree. Have fun on your next trip. I know I will. At $20 a pop. LOL.

Tibu1969

02-11-13, 20:21

Paracite: Great report! You did not mention the prices paid, I would guess CUC 80 per chica. I would love to read more of this stuff here.

Finnish Fucker

02-11-13, 22:33

Just returned back to Scandinavia from 2 weeks sunny and sexfull holiday in Cuba. I stayed 5 nights in Havana and the rest in Vinales, Cienfuegos, Trinidad, Varadero, Guanabo with a buddy of mine. Here's my 2 cents:

Havana has clearly the best pick up options in Cuba for a tourist, the girls are all over the place. In the big clubs like La Cecilia, Salon Rojo but also many of the smaller bars have plenty of girls too. Also the streets are full with girls willing to make some extra pesos.

I stayed in Vedado and concentrated to that area's clubs, La Cecilia and Salon Rojo. Both are doog places but totally different lay out as described in earlier posts.

First night after arriving to Havana I took a taxi to La Cecilia. My buddy stayed in the hotel since he was sick and had fever. It was around 22. 00 on a Saturday night when I arrived to the club and I had to wait a bit before they let me in. I don't understand why, since the place was nearly empty. Cuban way I guess. There was a famous cuban reggaeton group Gente de Zona playing on that night so the entrance fee was 35 CUC. Pretty much but what the fuck, I just started my vacation and did not fly all the way to Havana to be tight with the money. I payed, entered and took a few beers in the bar looking around. The place begun to fill up quickly after 23 and eventually the place was packed with people. There seemed to be quite a lot of wealthy cubanos in the disco and many working girls in the mix too. The quality of the girls was quite good, not stunning. I spoke to a sexy slim girl who claimed to be a model. We'll aren't they all saying that in a place like Lecilia-LOL. I wanted a little bit more curvy latina girl and continued my way. At some point I spotted a stunningly curvy mulata with cute face. Short, not a slim model type, but curvy in all the places and sexy. Her tits looked too good and big to have good shape and I was sure they will sag badly when she takes off the bra. I asked her directly how does her tits look like when they are hanging loose and she convinced me they are firm and high. Sounded like a risk to be taken! We took some drinks in the bar, watched a bit the show of the group and then we took separate taxis to her casa which was close to the disco. We got naked pretty quickly and I dropped my jaw when she removed her bra. Those natural D cup tits were just fantastic. One of the best pairs I have ever seen personally anywhere in the world and I have been mongering around the world quite a lot. Needless to say I was more than happy for my first night and first girl in Cuba after 2 pops.

The second and third night I did not visit any WG bars, just hanged out with my buddy in the Vedado area. Then we travelled a bit around Cuba for 8 days, not heavy mongering at all but some casual fucks in Guanabo and in Cienfuegos.

Last 2 nights in Havana, Thursday and Friday, I went to Salon Rojo. Took girls to my casa particular which was around the corner both nights. First one was a blonde with great natural C+ cup tits and nice round ass. Her tits look a bit like man made in the photo but they were all real, firm and heavy. Nice pair.

Last night I wanted a sexy slim mulata and that's what I found. She said she is a bikini model, well it was not too hard to believe. Small round ass and long slim legs. And very good in bed, fucked like a beast.

All in all I liked Cuba and since I speak decent spanish it helped out a lot during our trip. Compared to Cartagena or Rio de Janeiro the mongering is a bit more different because of the fear of the police in Cuba. Using casas in Cuba is recommended, hotels charge a lot if you want to bring a girl to the room. My buddy took a nice mulata to his hotelroom in Tryp Havana Libre and he had to pay 120 CUC extra just for the room. After that night I convinced him easily to change into casas, LOL.

I found the cuban girls more natural and in that way more attractive than many girls in Cartagena / Rio. Too much silicone in those places for my taste. I like natural girls and big natural tits, well those I definately found in Cuba. Only thing that really sucks in Cuba is the fact that it's not easy to hang out with the girls on the streets, beaches etc. Because of the fear of the fucking police. I like to hang out with the babes on the beach but for that I have to find different country than Cuba. Next year I will head to Dominican Republic to check the girls there. In the meantime fucking sexy caucasian girls in German FKK's and maybe a trip to Asia next August summer. I love those tight asian girls too.

Enjoy the pics, it was not a walk in the park to get these :cool:

Cheers,

Kep

Paracite

02-13-13, 17:53

Paracite: Great report! You did not mention the prices paid, I would guess CUC 80 per chica. I would love to read more of this stuff here.I don't remember exact prices but it ranged from 80. 100 and I think I did the first and last girls for 60ish.

SleepyDog

02-14-13, 04:29

went to cuba recently. stayed in vedado district, and had a money problem, so i had fun investigating the less expensive ladies of the night.

my casa was about 6-8 blocks from hotel havana libre.

every night, there were a dozen or two dozen chicas around there, walking the streets, sitting at the bus stop across from copelia, hanging out by the cinema across from hotel libre. often in pairs, or with a guy, because that would make them less obvious. also, up and down the hill below havana libre on 23rd.

so: if you want to get laid with a reasonably cute girl. 18-24, for 30-40 cuc, walk around those spots, or sit or stand around there, and look into girls eyes. if they keep eye contact with you, in that location, they are hookers; ordinary cuban girls would be afraid of seeming like hookers by making lasting eye contact. there are usually cops around the bus stop and copelia. (and some cute girl cops, mmm, wish i could fuck some of them, lol)

i like girls who are fun, so that was a bit of a problem: the girls are careful not to be too obvious, so they usually don't smile and flirt, they just look at you longer than the regular chicas. but it still worked out.

i speak a little spanish, but don't understand it very well. the main phrases were:

cuanto para dos horas. how much for two hours.

cuantos anos tienes. how old are you.

i don't ever, ever want to be in a jail for **** stuff, especially a foreign jail, and some of the girls who are working are 16 or 17. and will lie about their age. but they all have i. the. 's, the first two numbers are the year of birth; so be careful and smart, don't get in trouble, amigo.

when i saw someone i liked, we would make arrangements for the price and time. i was within easy walking distance, so they would tell me to walk ahead, and they would follow a little behind.

first night:

asked a collectivo driver to take me to a club for beer, dancing, and women. he started to take me to a club in miramar, beautiful women, and he suggested ten dollars for the ride. which i figured out later would be too much.

but after only two blocks away from my casa, i spotted two girls on the corner. whoa, driver. he helped negotiate for the one i liked. i gave him five for his help. she said it was 100, and i laughed, and then offered fifty. ok. got her to my room, gave her 60. she was tall. 19, and i kept marveling at how firm her body was; and how athletic.

then i gave her ten more after. i was very happy with the experience, she took over at first, did some things i've never seen before. in other places, i've tired girls out, because i like to fuck a long time without coming. no problem here.

she kept calling me constantly after that, and i was having some problems with having her back at my casa, so i couldn't. and the reason she kept calling, i think, is that i could have had her for thirty or forty, easy. i was fresh on the scene. i don't regret the overpaid thirty bucks, i just wish i could find that in my home town.

next: a dark girl with a big smile who said hello outside of havana libre hotel. negotiated 40. she was great. 23, full breasts, big sweet kisses, gave me a blowjob like an artist, full of warmth. funny thing is, i saw her a few days later, she said something to me, i didn't even recognize her. eventually i figured it out, and had to ask her a question about something i knew about her to confirm. (excuse me, have i fucked you before? was not the question, just the thought)

bought her a fifty cent hot dog to make it up to her.

next girl: a pre-law university student. 23. when she did the obligatory showing of her i. the. to my casa particular owner, she also showed him her university i. the.

she was the only streetwalker who wasn't afraid to walk with me. it seemed like university students (i met others socially) were not so afraid of having problems with the cops.

cute smile, tall, slim and sexy looking. but not for me in bed: she moved too fast, and i didn't just tell her to slow down; she didn't try to leave early, we just had different rhythms. oh well. paid 30.

incidentally, i asked all the girls a few questions: how old were you when you had your first kiss; and when you lost your virginity? what was your favorite subject in high school, and your favorite sport? what would you like to do?

tall athletic first girl i remember: favorite sports, basketball and volleyball. i imagined fucking her team. she wanted to make chocolate confections, i mentioned that i too liked licking chocolate. and she wanted to do modeling.

second girl: don't remember.

third girl: definitely wanted to be a lawyer. i told her i'd hire her to get me out of trouble.

most girls said they were 15 or 16 when they had first kiss, and they lost their virginity the same year. they smiled when i said it was 19 and 19 for me.

fourth girl. i stopped by the bus waiting zone across from copelia, there are benches there to hang out. got the eye of a couple girls nearby. the one who was aggressive, i didn't want, but her friend was cute, tall, slim. i explained that i was having money problems. and i did not want to insult them. but twenty was what i had, for two hours. the girl i liked looked slightly shocked. i finally asked, si or no? she said ok, and followed me home.

she was hot looking. but was the only starfish i had. not sure if it was because she was only getting twenty, i didn't think so at the time. i had some fun. and let her go.

i think i tipped all the girls a little.

next girl: jesus.

i was broke, had money coming in the next day, but really have nothing. i went out without my phone, and walking home i had three cuc in my wallet.

i stop for a 50 cent sandwich, at midnight, a block from my casa, and a tall black girl insists on paying for it. i didn't understand fully, so i put down fifty cents. so she picked it up.

outside, she said the sandwich was a gift. i said thanks. she had to be a hooker, no nice girl would be aggressive with an old foreigner at midnight like that. then i said, it was a gift? ok, give me back my fifty cents. she pulled it out, but i told her i was just playing, keep it.

she was with her friend. a minute later we're by the gate of my casa. she says she wants to fuck me, i say, sorry, no dinero.

she grabs my dick, and gets real close.

she says, how much do you have?

i say 3 cuc. and how old are you?

she says she's 18.

she says she'll give me a blowjob for three cuc. i've been just trying to get rid of her, but now my little head is starting to negotiate with the big head.

where? i tell her i don't want to wake up the casa owners, its late. i'm still sort of trying to get rid of her.

she says, in the front yard behind the fence.

this is on a big, lighted street, its late but there are still cars, the occasional pedestrian, and of course my casa owners would not be pleased. forget that.

i think about it, while she's grabbing my dick, and.

soon we're around the corner, down a casa driveway that leads to a basement garage, in a dark spot. i tell her friend to go away, watch for police. i've never seen police on that street, but.

i whip it out, and she gives me a terrific blow job, starting with her hand, then her mouth, i'm grabbing her tits and pussy, she's saying 'the mi tu leche' (give me your milk, cum for me)

finally i'm finished.

she pulls down her shorts and takes a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) a few feet away in the dark. cubans occasionally will take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) anywhere there's a little privacy, its nice that way.

she walks off. i walk off. i put my hands in my pockets.

something's wrong. she stole my wallet!

shit!

wait, wait, i call, out. i don't know the spanish words for help or find or lost or wallet, but hell, she knows she stole my wallet, they both know. i do know the words for: it has no money, but i will give them five cuc, i need it, no questions.

it only has my drivers license, but also its a simple little wallet i like.

one of the first things she does, as we're standing on the sidewalk, is to claim she doesn't have it, and to prove it, she pulls down her shorts and panties and shows me her pussy, lol.

why don't girls do that more often when i'm looking for something i lost?

eventually, after lots of pretending, she walks over to a place near where i got the blowjob, and picks up the wallet and hands it to me.

i go back to my house with a smile, get her five cuc, tell her she is a magician, (she can make things disappear and reappear!) an artist.

damn, that was awesome: got a great blowjob from an 18 year old hottie for eight dollars! and a security lesson: (never leave your hands off your phone and wallet when getting cheap blowjobs in strange places) , and a great story! still puts a smile on my face!

a few more experiences that didn't work out. the girl who said she was 21, but when the casa owner saw her i'd, it said 17, she said, it doesn't matter to me. me and the casa owner said, oh, but it does matter to us. sent her out on the street. my casa owner lectured me and the girl.

havana seems quite safe. i live in much more dangerous places in america. a couple times i hopped on buses and just took them wherever they went. i love the super crowded buses, just hang out bumping into and staring at hot chicas. twice i spotted really hot young women popping out their breasts to breastfeed. one of them i wound up talking to because the bus was at the end of the line and everyone got off. we were about 20 minutes outside of the havana tourist areas, no police. long story short: i hung out with her and her brother and her kid for an hour or two. he spoke good english. i bought some food and drinks for all of us, without being asked. arranged a date for the next night. she said she was going back to the countryside in a few days, could i visit her in guantanamo. not likely. the next night at my casa, nothing happened, she didn't appeal to me, she seemed so serious, not exactly a hooker, but some kind of con, i sent her away, she was trying ineffectually to get me to fall in love with her or something. after she left my casa owner said: that's not her brother! he came with her and had the baby with him, and he looks just like the baby. that's the father! cubans will do that sometimes, get their baby's mama to make a little money, said the casa owner.

live and learn!

another time i took a bus for half an hour somewhere (buses are five cents. oh and movies are ten cents!) i wound up talking to a very cute 25 year old with her son. i wanted to learn reggaeton, and before i volunteered that info, she mentioned that she was in a video as a reggaeton dancer, and loved that dance. the next day she was at my casa, with a cute friend, a couple hours late, to teach me reggaeton. 5 bucks. they didn't come back the next day as planned, maybe they wanted more, i don't know. they seemed like they might be good girls, or the might be available.

when i got my money problems partially solved, i still was on low end. i didn't have all the info i needed on clubs, etc, and i could not get this website on the internet in cuba. so i was wandering, picking up info here and there. lots of hookers in the restaurant in havana libre sometimes, one followed me into the men's bathroom and took the stall while i peed, lol, not my type tho.

another girl down by hotel presidente, (which was my favorite place for internet. 6cuc / hour, computers open late in the hotel lobby / bar). that woman suggested short time in the neighborhood, would do me for 20, blow job for 10. i declined. combination of not horny enough and not stunning. a guy i met outside of capitolia once had told me you could always get a girl for 20 around there. maybe. i know some girls definitely had a price at 40 or 50 on the street. most were ok with 30.

one girl i spoke with near copelia for about 30 seconds: two hours. 30? ok. she was short and slim, with great see-the breasts, and was the only girl i had there who clearly, undoubtedly, was loving the way i was doing things with my hands to her pussy. (i've been trained in a techniques of pussy massage by master teachers). that was fun, once. but then she showed up outside my door the next night, and i wasn't ready for that. it seemed like i liked to walk around a bit before i'm ready to fuck. but i couldn't turn that down, a real girlfriend experience. almost too real. sure enough, she didn't seem as hot the second time. she was also very clear what she wanted the second night, lol. but shit, it was like being with a girlfriend, i work a little too hard sometimes, the fun of being with hookers is to get paid back for all those hours of getting sore necks and numb tongues from licking pussy and tired hands from long rubs with young girls who almost came, lol. let them work on me now, i get to do what i want. and i like having a different girl every night.

i went to salon rojo a couple times, briefly. got quoted once 70 for short time. almost all the girls i saw weren't any more attractive than the street girls to me, just had more dyed blond hair and evening dresses. one was really fine, would have been worth it if she was 70. but i was too broke, didn't stay, just asked the doorman if i could walk through for 2 minutes without paying to check the place out, he said that was ok.

outside of salon rojo, i finally got a hustler who was useful. he was persistent, walked me around to about five places until i found one i liked, a dance club. met three quite good looking girls in an outdoor restaurant that appeared closed, the cutest wanted fifty, out of my current budget. the other two went down from forty to thirty five, that was it. if the cutest one had said thirty five, that would have been ok. she looked like the best group at salon rojo to me.

i finally found a place to dance reggaeton. it was my last night. i had about 80 cuc left. this club, it's right on a corner of 23rd avenue, two blocks or maybe one block down the hill from hotel havana libre, across 23rd, and to get into the club you walk down some stairs to a basement level. 5 cuc entrance. some tables outside the club where girls who didn't pay to get in are waiting, including the one who was too young who got refused and thrown out of my house. i found out that her eighteenth birthday is a few months, and was actually one day before my birthday. and talked with her about giving her a present at midnight on her birthday, a birthday present for both of us, lol.

inside the small club: about twenty people, some hookers, some cubans on dates. i eventually wound up with two girls who were having a good time dancing and drinking even before i went over to their table. bought them each a beer. 2cuc, after getting a lapdance each time from each of them to pay for the beer, lol. one was white, the other dark. the white girl had a wonderful warm and slightly mischievous smile. they both were doing reggaeton with me. and i found out, maybe this is not the dance for me: they weren't particularly short, but when they were grinding their asses on me in the dance, they bent their knees and got lower; i'm tall, so the effect was for me to get really really low, practically squatting, it was getting fucking tiring, lol.

after awhile, i told them, you can have all the money in my wallet, i think i have about 76 left. the white girl listened, said yes, and we were on our way home.

it was my last night in cuba. what a great way to end it. when i got to my casa, i expected them, like almost every other girl, to go into the bathroom and wash up a little. that seemed to be their routine, take the little wash bucket, take a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), wash their pussy a little bit. no one ever showered.

i had a really nice bathroom in the casa, a little run down but basically big and beautiful with a tub and shower.

nancy, the white girl, surprised me. she said. don't you want to take a shower with us?

hell yeah!

i loved watching them undress with me.

did i mention that they told me they were 19? but when we checked i. the. 's at the casa, they were actually both 18. almost 19. i love it.

so we all played in the shower awhile,

then. i've been in dozens of three ways, with hookers in angeles, in the college girl sex parties i gave in my home country. and i've never had a three way like this.

i had some reggaeton playing on my iphone, let them pick the songs.

i felt like i was in a sexy music video, but in this one, you actually get to fuck the girls.

like most of the cuban girls, they were very active, took the lead in lots of things, (also submitted nicely to my lead) , and had lots of energy. everywhere else in the world i get some complaints about fucking too long, never in cuba.

both of them jumped on my bed naked and started dancing. there is an antique dressing table across from the bed, with six foot of mirrors on it. they were watching themselves, enjoying themselves, and i was certainly enjoying them!

then they got on their hands and knees on the bed in front of me, still basically dancing, revolving their asses while i played with them.

soon they were taking turns, one giving me tongue on my dick, the other getting felt up or licked by me, then fucking each one in different positions. they did a lot of revolving their hips while fucking. is this a south of the border thing? other girls did that too.

i tried to take some pictures, omitting the faces, with the iphone, then gave the girls the phone / camera. lol, the pictures are awful, i'm not a photographer, everything is too dark, sorry.

the black girl was perfectly firm, athletic, nice be-see breasts. the white girl was slimmer, also firm.

lots of smiles, lots of fun the whole time. a perfect ending to a great trip.

Sammytheman

02-15-13, 06:52

Welcome to the club SleepyDog! Nice report for a 1st post.

Guy Lafleur

02-18-13, 00:39

Stayed at the Tropicoco Hotel (Playas Del Este) in Dec 2013. This is a soviet era hotel built in the 1970's. I don't think its been renovated since. It's a solid 2* hotel and I paid $515 CDN all inclusive from Montreal. These are my impressions of my trip in bullet form:

- Playas Del Este is a beautiful beach that stretched for about 2 miles.

- Tropicoco hotel is run down hotel, ok mediocre food, pretty good nightly entertainment, and friendly staff and bar. OK if you don't pay too much money.

- They allow your "girlfriend" to stay there and share your room for an extra $40 night. You can only have one "girlfriend" per stay.

- You can pay the security $20 to allow your "girlfriend" to stay with you for an evening for a couple of hours. Kind of dodgy and annoying. Do not recommend this.

- The are three clubs within a $5 cab ride distance from this hotel. One to the east and two west in Guanabo. MANY MANY beautiful girls at these bars. The will run you $40 bucks. Once again, VERY Pretty Girls. I recommend getting a Casa Particular who doesn't give a shit if your bring girls home. Just ask them up front. Most of them won't mind and make sure the girls are over the age of 18.

- You can get to Havana from this hotel for to and fro for $15.

- Went to the bar Salon Rojo one night. Girls were asking 100 and I got one for 65. Great band and literally 50 BEAUTIFUL women in there with only 10 mongers. Remember guys: Supply and demand. Do not pay them too much money.

- Cuba is fun. Food kinda sucks, but the women are fucking beautiful and plentiful and cheap. And healthy too. Get a casa particular and enjoy! Learn some spanish before you go too.

- stayed a week and spent $1000 CDN total. One of the few perks of living in Canada.

Hope that helps.

Guy

RicoMan12

02-18-13, 01:49

Spent a few days in Havana for the first time.

I hit a few of the big Clubs but lost interest quickly due to prostitutes poor attitudes and money requirements. Got a good laugh observing pimps / boyfriends carefully watching the negotiating process on the sidelines.

All the girls in these clubs are proffessionals. Later met a nice girl in Miramar and was bringing her to my casa when policeman approached her for identification. She began crying so I offered Cop 10 pesos and he left us alone. The police presence is a bit overwhelming and made me feel uncomfortable. The cops are also stationed on the beeches which I thought was strange. After a few days of dealing with Cubans I became convinced that most could not be trusted. After 3 days I said fuck this and flew to the Dominican Republic where I had a great time and some peace of mind.

Cuba is a dump.

Varon123

02-19-13, 13:58

Hi,

I'm going to habana next month. I'm 60 am I too old for here. What do you guys recommend for an old punter like me.

Where should I be going to.

LionPitch

02-20-13, 13:51

Hi,

I'm going to habana next month. I'm 60 am I too old for here. What do you guys recommend for an old punter like me.

Where should I be going to.Hello Varon, I'm only 40 but I hope mongering till 80; chicas in Cuba prefer "older" like you! You need to have a mamasan like me to introduce you some pretty girls!

Order and you will be satisfied! I do have a mamasan a black old girl. I phone her and three hours later a girl is in front of me. I think it's the better way, the most difficult thing is to find a trusted person who will give you each day a new fresh girl.

SanJoseFan

02-20-13, 23:20

First off good report Guy LaFleur, I won't repeat most of what you said but rather add a few of my own observations:

I stayed at the Tropicoco in January 2013, this was not my first nor will it be last at the hotel, it is a good functioning base of operations. Its Cuba, you will never find true 5 star service so don't look for it. There were no power or water issues in my room nor food issues (as always the breakfast omlette for me is the top of the mark). The only health in the issue this time was the drunk guy who defecated (yes you saw that correctly) in the elevator.

Girls plentiful on / near the beach during the day as well as the little restaurant mirazel which is on the roundabout leading down on to the beach road.

Girls also plentiful at Cabaret Guanamr, the main open air disco in Guanabo. This has become my favuorite place to find girls at night, noted that cover charge was much lower (only 3CUC each othe three nights I was there this time) than in the summer. Crowds in the club were higher comapred to last summer (100+ girls a night by midnight, perhaps a result of the lower cover charge that Cubanos could afford a little easier) and the place is really a meat market. The crowds outside Cabaret Guanamar were lower than in the summer, much lower, I'm thinking mainly due to it being "winter" in Cuba, while it was nice and warm for me coming from Canada in January to be outside at night in Guanabo must be "mucho frio" for the average Cubano. No issues bringing girls back to Hotel Tropicoco, and having security brining them up for the usual $20, I like them coming back and getting them out after a while makes it nice and neat for me (security always gave me more than ample time to have a great time with the girls) Taxi to Cabaret Guanamar to Hotel Tropicoco is 5CUC.

There were working girls STAYING within the Tropicoco as well. I realized this late in the game in the summer of 2012 but was much more aware of it this time. Usually 2 girls would take a room and try to make their money back by getting with guy (s) during the evenng and following day. Girls working this arrangement seemed to be around every day this time I was there. Do not worry if these girls seem to be with other mongers at the hotel, if you look at them you will know if they are in play or not. The advantage of going this route is that you do not have to pay security for these girls to come to your room, they already have the hotel band on their wrist and have run of the place, like any other guest. Note: These girls seemed to be a little older and not quite as hot as the girls you would find in the clubs but hey, a convienence factor of having them on property cannot be overstated.

Prices for girls in the hotel and at the club were consistant. Never paid less than 35CUC and more than 40CUC. For me this has been a consistant price for the last 3-4 trips to Cuba.

It might be worth noting that the exchange rate at Tropicoco fluctuated on a daily basis, not so much from the official rate changing as rather from each front desk employee coming up with their own rate. It was never more than $1 or $2 so I didn't mind (these people are not gettng rich working here in Cuba you know) but it was amusing in its own way. One should also be aware that the cambio on Ave Atlantica (the beach road) has also closed so now the nearest cambio for exchange (from credit cards etc) if not your hotel is now in Guanabo.

Varon123

02-21-13, 23:21

Hello Varon, I'm only 40 but I hope mongering till 80; chicas in Cuba prefer "older" like you! You need to have a mamasan like me to introduce you some pretty girls!

Order and you will be satisfied! I do have a mamasan a black old girl. I phone her and three hours later a girl is in front of me. I think it's the better way, the most difficult thing is to find a trusted person who will give you each day a new fresh girl.Thanks LionPitch. I'm looking forward to my trip. Hope it's true about the chicas liking older guys.

Thanks again.

Start123

03-05-13, 04:23

Just something that happened to me not too long ago.

I was walking back from Floridita Hotel, it was around 2 am. Too early to call it a night so I was looking for an adventure. I noticed how female cops were so good looking and friendly. Simply amazing!

Florida bar was already closed so I figure I'll walk around parque centrale (don't know how to spell it) , see if there are any girls. Some Cuban guy comes up, asking me what time it was (the usual approach) , and eventually is offering to hook me up with his female friend. All he wants is I buy him a beer at a bar near by.

I was up to go to another bar, plus the prospect of meeting someone made me say yes! . So we go to a bar where I sit down and get myself a drink. The guy disappears for a while and comes back with a girl and a gay looking guy. We all sit down, he introduces me to both of them saying he met another friend. Blah blah blah. The usual Cuban set up. Buy them beer now. Not a problem, bear are 2cuc / can. 8 cuc later we are all drinking.

I didn't get a good feeling about the woman. In Cuba your standards go way up and she was not up to mine. Whatever. We keep drinking, some people in the bar are dancing. I am entertained!

The girl says she needed to leave since I am not interested and she goes out. Ten minutes later we all finish our beers and I decide to leave the bar. The Cuban guy and his gay friend also stand up and leave with me. Now I got suspicious at this point. But I couldn't quite rationalize what the scam could be. I was in a well lit area with cops around, so I wasn't scared.

Anyway, we come out out of the bar and boom. A cop comes up to us and asks everyone for an I'd. I have never been asked by a cop for an I'd in Cuba. It's usually the Cubans with foreigners being asked for their I'd!

Now my Spanish is shit. Very basic. The Cuban guy spoke reasonable English. I tell the cop I don't have any I'd on me (I would never take my passport with me while going out- too much of a risk to lose it plus I have never ever been asked to produce it as I am very foreign looking)

I explain in my broken Spanish I don't have anything and my passport is en casa particular. Etc. The Cuban guy and his friend act like they are scared. And they tell me the cop wants to take me to the station and charge with prostitution unless I give him 20 cuc! I was like what prostitution. Where? In the bar?

I didn't get laid that night so I was already pissed! I was a bit drunk and tired too so I just had enough of this shit and started yelling at the cop something like: let's go to your station and I tell your superiors how you extort money from foreigners! This is not fucking Mexico! Fuck Mexico. You not getting money from me. LOL.

Anyways, the cop lets go his two friends (I think) and still trying to talk to me in Spanish I just don't understand. He made me sit on the curb for 10 min pretending he is waiting for a police car and then let me go. The fucker realized I am not paying up shit!

Cuba was always safe for foreigners. That's part of the reason I came back to the Isla. If cops are getting corrupt, women are asking 80CUC for an hour. Forget about it!

WaterTraveller

03-06-13, 06:12

I like your post #3326.

Been to Cuba for 5 months for each of the last 2 years. Met women who just apreciate someone to take them out for dancing and fun and never ask for anything. Places they would have never gone or have a chance to go. Acepting gifts of cash that does"nt make them prostitutes. And even if they are, some have real needs, some I phones, some shelter.

I met one I still help to this day with a hundred dollars monthly which goes to pay rent 35$ the rest for helping her son 14 yrs old who has muscular distraphy. Con fined to his wheel chair. Before he was living at the grandmother's and she at a friends. No help from family. If they pulled one on me they are pretty good, because I seen the first place she rented then gave up, tinking she had a better place, then the owners changed thier mind about renting, she had to find another all over. This women had so many problems that I investigated myself I'm surprised that she did'nt comitt suicide. Oh yes I have heard many sob stories but believe this is real. I even thought of the possibilities that she was borrowing him to scam me. Even if I am not getting it completly right what's 100$ amonth and a ps2 game that I gave him.

I beleive her because I've experienced many problems in life myself and would never believed anyone could have so many problems had I not experinced myself

Also just because the wage of 250 cuban peso monthly is what they get they can't live off of that. Go to the agro and check out prices of veggies and other neccecities in stores that the goverment does'nt supply.

Like the man says pay the chicks what is fair, don't be cheap but don't spoil them so they don't loose thier pride and rely solely on yumas.

I like Cuba, party on, and remember sharing is good carma, and what comes around goes around.

Kalifornication

03-06-13, 16:49

Well said.

I like your post #3326.

Been to Cuba for 5 months for each of the last 2 years. Met women who just apreciate someone to take them out for dancing and fun and never ask for anything. Places they would have never gone or have a chance to go. Acepting gifts of cash that does"nt make them prostitutes. And even if they are, some have real needs, some I phones, some shelter.

I met one I still help to this day with a hundred dollars monthly which goes to pay rent 35$ the rest for helping her son 14 yrs old who has muscular distraphy. Con fined to his wheel chair. Before he was living at the grandmother's and she at a friends. No help from family. If they pulled one on me they are pretty good, because I seen the first place she rented then gave up, tinking she had a better place, then the owners changed thier mind about renting, she had to find another all over. This women had so many problems that I investigated myself I'm surprised that she did'nt comitt suicide. Oh yes I have heard many sob stories but believe this is real. I even thought of the possibilities that she was borrowing him to scam me. Even if I am not getting it completly right what's 100$ amonth and a ps2 game that I gave him.

I beleive her because I've experienced many problems in life myself and would never believed anyone could have so many problems had I not experinced myself

Also just because the wage of 250 cuban peso monthly is what they get they can't live off of that. Go to the agro and check out prices of veggies and other neccecities in stores that the goverment does'nt supply.

Like the man says pay the chicks what is fair, don't be cheap but don't spoil them so they don't loose thier pride and rely solely on yumas.

I like Cuba, party on, and remember sharing is good carma, and what comes around goes around.

BeersTerry

03-07-13, 12:42

Wow, some quality posting here lately.

The last corruption purge got rid of alot of the jefes but I don't think all were replaced, hence the workers are running wild and stealing everything. You can see many Cubans in the bars and restaurants paying tourist prices.

Cops have always been corrupt and are becoming more so in Cuba. I have been stopped to be shaken down only to have the (regular) girl I was with tear a strip off the cop. She came back saying he only wanted a bribe, which we didn't pay. Same on the Malecon, why do you think some putas get arrested while others work their little strip of it? It is because a puta pays the cop to keep the competition out.

I like Cuba, but it is getting hardcore on the streets.

Adinga

03-10-13, 04:16

IMHO most of the real hard core street girls are black and these girls have no fear of the law for some reason.

The remaining hard core girls can be found in the discos for $. Theres not many options for newbies who don't have Cuban friends who can introduce them to nice local girls.

Sexmetv

05-01-13, 01:30

Bob Somewhat

05-01-13, 15:55

I'm going to be going to Havana soon and have to ask: do chicas like it in the butt? I'm really only into blanca girls so know I might pay a bit more as I'm only into whites and very light-skinned mulattas. But how much is it going to be to put it in their tight Cubana culos?

I have tickets to Havana scheduled for August, failing that I'm going to go in December (which is unfortunately high season)

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Guy Lafleur

05-02-13, 01:35

Hi,

There are few tourists from early to mid December. No competition for the chicas and prices are low.

Regards,

Guy

Start123

05-02-13, 07:33

Just got back from boys trip to Cuba and I thought I'd mention that a great place to check out might be Don Cangrejo (located in Havana) which is an open air bar. When I went, there was a nice mix of professionals and regular folks. There is also a live music on both nights (with DJ music afterwards) I went, the bands were fantastic! Anyhow, the girls were asking $80 CUC to start but were flexible if you pushed for $70 CUC (goes without saying there were many attractive women there). What I also liked was that the girls were not that pushy which allows you to chill and enjoy some music if you are not in the mood (compared to Casa de la Musica which is just out of control with how aggressive the women are) Entrance fee was about $3CUC. In any case a good time especially if the weather is not too humid.70 cuc is not flexible! 20-25 Cuc is the price. I hate it when people overpay and I have to remind chicas what the going rate is, cause all of the suden they think their pussy is worth gold! Even ih I"High end" places like Casa de la Musica. You can take anyone for 45 cuc no problem. Or better yet come late and stand outside as they leave and offer 25 CUC.

Fairy Tale69

05-07-13, 05:43

Havana.

Rented Casa in Vedado, close to Havana Libre hotel. Brought my laptop / blue tooth speaker with Just for Laugh, Mr Bean, magic tricks and Pranks videos as well as Shakira, Beyonce, Mariam Hernands video clips, to have chicas feel at easy and kick up a notch. Brought Baily, snacks and cookies from free shop. Stocked up mini bar. I was ready for action. Went out to Malecom which was crowded and as usually heavy police presence. A few lookers. On my way back I seen girls on Avenida 23 and Calle L on bus / taxi stations (Copelia Park) waiting for bus / taxi and yumas LOL. I look them into eyes, and if they look away I do not try talk to them. But what I noticed is, after locking eyes with semi-pro or non-pro talents one has to act fast, or most of them are gone.

Picked nice young mulata 8, out of 10, 150cm high, beginner in pro business. First contact had good vibes so I took her to La Roca for dinner and interview. I followed guides / advices of some of this forum pro monger bros and covered every aspect of business before closing the deal with her. Part of the deal was "NO PICS." In room I show her money, and incentives telling her money is yours if you keep your part of deal, and incentives are if you go extra mile. Now its mine. I locked stuff into suitcase with number combination. All nite 50$ (full service including back door, blow, missionary, doggy, cowgirl, etc. With nice morning blow job). Good efforts, and performer, no rush so I gave her incentive stuff. Perfume and sexy lingerie.

She was happy and next night brought her prima with her. Since I did not asked her to bring her young sis, I told her both of you for $90 + incentives. They were not stars, but their youth and energy were perfect (or even better) substitute for experience. I kept dynamic duo during my stay in Havana.

Of course I had my casa owner check and hold their tarjetas. They got it back in the morning when I told owner everything is OK. Less than 18 years old all bets are off.

I meet a stunner. Unfortunately 17 years old. Took email and mobile, who knows next year could be handy. That happened in Havana Centre. On exit from Hotel Ingleterra turn left and cross the street. I think its called Passeo de Prado (Marti) or so. During day there are many souvenirs and pictures from Cuban artist exposed for sale. Take a seat on the wall and girls will find you, specially after dark. Watch for a minors.

My Spanish is bad, so I always write in advance on piece of paper address of my casa or bar where I want them to meet me and hand it to talents that pass quick screening interview. Short contact, little exposure (for chicas) and always works. As per taxi money I let them know 5CUC is max I pay.

AngoChango

05-07-13, 23:54

Went to Cuba recently. Stayed in vedado district, and had a money problem, so I had fun investigating the less expensive ladies of the night.

My casa was about 6-8 blocks from hotel Havana libre.

Every night, there were a dozen or two dozen chicas around there...How much did you spend in your whole trip?

SleepyDog

05-14-13, 01:19

How much did you spend in your whole trip?I don't know. Anyway, it would be difficult to parse, because about 50% of my trip had nothing to do with mongering, I was busy with other things. Casa was 30 cuc, including breakfast. Girls prices I've talked about, usually 30-40 for a couple hours, with some high and low end exceptions. I don't spend a lot on drinking or eating out usually. The guy at my casa made beans and rice for me for the evenings, for free, and told me about a place I liked a couple blocks from my house where I could eat my fill for 3-5cuc and still have something to take home. All around there are pizzettas for 10 pesos. My casa owner got me a local phone with card for about 25cuc, I think he made something on that deal. The several good movies I saw costs two pesos! Internet was 6cuc an hour; more at some places. Buses are one peso, if I remember correctly. Dance clubs I went to a few times were 3-5cuc. I paid a cute girl 5cuc to give me an hour and a half dance lesson, and she showed up with a second cute girl. Driver to the airport was 25cuc.

Giotto Texan

05-23-13, 08:06

My second trip to Cuba, the first one was disapointing because I was staying in resort in Varadero and yall know how that goes, no bringing chicks in or it will cost you arm and leg to bring one in. But as a real hunter I didn't loose hope, I just got on the streets and make friends, I managed to make two cool friends with good heart on my first trip, Randy and Duniesky. On my second trip last month I made arrangement with my friends Randy and Duni to find me Casa particular where I can bring chicks in and we can cook and eat togather. They did the job and this second trip I was getting fresh meat almost every night, I mean from 7 to 9 non pros, straight good girls. I think I am falling in love with this one chick they hook me up with.

Well my second trip I told Randy to take vacation for the two weeks that I will be there just to hang with me. Randy and Duni they work in a brick company in town outside Varadero and they make only equivalent $15 a month, so I told them I will pay them 20 each just to hang with me for two weeks, to hook me up with good chick and protect me on streets. I would pay for drinks everytime we went out, It was cheaper because I was sending them to get drinks and they will get them at locals price, also their entrance in many places was $2 or less. These guys will bring me back change of all transactions they did unlike other countries I visited. They will get taxi and we would pay $2 what would cost tourist $50. For example our trip from Varadero to Havana it only cost me 5 cuc for both of us and return was 30 cuc private taxi straight to Varadero. This deal came out way cheaper than if I would go by my self.

Well back to my second trip story.

I landed in Varadero and went straight to Casa in Cardenas, town outside Varadero, I didn't want to stay in Varadero simply because too many police blocking the game, and casas don't allow chicks.

My first night, Randy already had this mulata ready for me before I arrived, She is finest thing I ever seen, she came into my casa and we went to eat all of us, when we came back to casa she wanted to take a shower because she travelled approximately 2 hrs to came to see me. When she was in the shower she called me and asked me how to turn hot water on (I think she knew how but she just wanted me there) , she was butt necked and my charlie down here went straight to horizontal position when saw that. Well me being a gentleman I turned hot water for her and closed the door, before I closed the door she asked me "no queres banar con migo" (you don't want to take shower with me). Well I didn't believed that so I wanted to hear that again, then she said something like "its ok if you don't want to. Before she finish saying that I was aready necked scrubing her back followed by three hrs of action. I spend my second day with her and consumed approximately 10 condoms.

After that me and Randy took a trip to Havana, straight to Casa Gretchet in Vedado, this casa is where you want to be for privacy because you have your own entrance and whatever you do is up to you and is very clean. Their daughter is hot and speak very good english, I was trying to hit on her but it didn't work, she was playing hard to get hahah.

Well Randy told me 'forget tourist places, I'm going to take you where you going to have local fun', off we went to area called Frank something, we sat in corner bar, he talked to his budy the spanish I didn't understand but in 5 mins I was sorrounded by about 20 young chicas, I bought them all drinks and wasnt even 5 cuc. I finally pick this Rihanna look like chick with little bit bigger ass and also told Randy to pick one for himself. The deal was all night untill 5am for 20 cuc. They didn't want to stay after 5am because they didn't want to be seen in daylight going back home, otherwise these are not the pros you see in downtown Havana, these are local girls having fun,

Second night we went to the same place and my Rihanna was not there, so I picked this most beautiful so far I did in Cuba, she just turned 18 young and energetic mix of black and white, even when I busted a nut and tired she kept playing with my charlie all night. I really liked this chick and I asked her to go back to Varadero with me but she told me her parents won't let her because she is in College. Third night I didn't want to nuthing else but the same chick who drawn all my energy again.

Well It was time to go back to my Casa in Cardenas outside Varadero, My first night back there we went to the local club with Randy and Duniesky family, I got all of them drunk almost 10 people for less than 50 cuc. (they were ordering drinks at local price, not me, cheap). They were all working on getting me any girl I would like in there, well I pick this girl mix of Indian and white, small pettite cute. I took her to my Casa and she didn't even ask for money. I gave her $5 watch I bought from walmart and she was happy as hell.

Next day Duniesky and Randy called the girl they went to school with who lived several hrs away, they told me this is the most beautiful girl you will see in Cuba. Well it wasnt the hottest I seen in Cuba but she was hot and sweet with good heard, I was attached with her in one day and I spent the rest of my vacation with her. We went to Guama, Playa Larga, Jovellana, and many more places getting free action day and night, I didn't have to pay her nuthing. When I left I felt bad the way this girl treated me like King and negotiated taxis and buses, I mean she took a taxi for us from Guama to Jovellano for only 2 cuc, It would cost me more than $50 if I was solo. So I gave her my laptop and radio when I left, I told her to keep them for me. I still talk to her and her family.

After my secont trip I advice you guys to find local friends, just bring them gifts like tshirts, watches, sunglasses from dollar store, and you will have blast for cheap. Good action with non pros for free of few dollars.

I am not going to post Randy and Duniesky informations here but whoever need them just pm me and I will be more than happy to hook you up as long as you stay away from my chicks hahah.

Also when you find the chick you like, I advice you to take her to Villa de Guama, is a nice hideaway place and she will appreciate you to take her there and they will give you that thing with all the energy they got.

Hasta Luego. Get rosetta stone, learn basic spanish, you won't regret it.

BrasilSoccer0

05-24-13, 04:00

I am not going to post Randy and Duniesky informations here but whoever need them just pm me and I will be more than happy to hook you up as long as you stay away from my chicks hahah.How do you suggest we do that if you don't have "pm" option.

Vitrea

05-25-13, 20:42

. I managed to make two cool friends with good heart on my first trip, Randy and Duniesky. On my second trip last month I made arrangement with my friends Randy and Duni to find me Casa particular where I can bring chicks in and we can cook and eat togather. They did the job and this second trip I was getting fresh meat almost every night, I mean from 7 to 9 non pros, straight good girls. I think I am falling in love with this one chick they hook me up with.

Hasta Luego. Get rosetta stone, learn basic spanish, you won't regret it.Very nice first post. I for one, am very jealous. Be kind enough to get PM privileges :-D

HectorSanchez

05-25-13, 21:53

QUOTE. When she was in the shower she called me and asked me how to turn hot water on (I think she knew how but she just wanted me there) , she was butt necked and my charlie down here went straight to horizontal position when saw that. Well me being a gentleman I turned hot water for her and closed the door, before I closed the door she asked me "no queres banar con migo" (you don't want to take shower with me). Well I didn't believed that so I wanted to hear that again, then she said something like "its ok if you don't want to.

Ha Ha this is so romantic. I couldn't stop laughing. This is exactly how a girl should act and guy behaves as a gentleman. LOL. Trying to be real gentleman but full of blue balls.

My second trip to Cuba, the first one was disapointing because I was staying in resort in Varadero and yall know how that goes, no bringing chicks in or it will cost you arm and leg to bring one in. But as a real hunter I didn't loose hope, I just got on the streets and make friends, I managed to make two cool friends with good heart on my first trip, Randy and Duniesky. On my second trip last month I made arrangement with my friends Randy and Duni to find me Casa particular where I can bring chicks in and we can cook and eat togather. They did the job and this second trip I was getting fresh meat almost every night, I mean from 7 to 9 non pros, straight good girls. I think I am falling in love with this one chick they hook me up with.

Well my second trip I told Randy to take vacation for the two weeks that I will be there just to hang with me. Randy and Duni they work in a brick company in town outside Varadero and they make only equivalent $15 a month, so I told them I will pay them 20 each just to hang with me for two weeks, to hook me up with good chick and protect me on streets. I would pay for drinks everytime we went out, It was cheaper because I was sending them to get drinks and they will get them at locals price, also their entrance in many places was $2 or less. These guys will bring me back change of all transactions they did unlike other countries I visited. They will get taxi and we would pay $2 what would cost tourist $50. For example our trip from Varadero to Havana it only cost me 5 cuc for both of us and return was 30 cuc private taxi straight to Varadero. This deal came out way cheaper than if I would go by my self.

Well back to my second trip story.

I landed in Varadero and went straight to Casa in Cardenas, town outside Varadero, I didn't want to stay in Varadero simply because too many police blocking the game, and casas don't allow chicks.

My first night, Randy already had this mulata ready for me before I arrived, She is finest thing I ever seen, she came into my casa and we went to eat all of us, when we came back to casa she wanted to take a shower because she travelled approximately 2 hrs to came to see me. When she was in the shower she called me and asked me how to turn hot water on (I think she knew how but she just wanted me there) , she was butt necked and my charlie down here went straight to horizontal position when saw that. Well me being a gentleman I turned hot water for her and closed the door, before I closed the door she asked me "no queres banar con migo" (you don't want to take shower with me). Well I didn't believed that so I wanted to hear that again, then she said something like "its ok if you don't want to. Before she finish saying that I was aready necked scrubing her back followed by three hrs of action. I spend my second day with her and consumed approximately 10 condoms.

After that me and Randy took a trip to Havana, straight to Casa Gretchet in Vedado, this casa is where you want to be for privacy because you have your own entrance and whatever you do is up to you and is very clean. Their daughter is hot and speak very good english, I was trying to hit on her but it didn't work, she was playing hard to get hahah.

Well Randy told me 'forget tourist places, I'm going to take you where you going to have local fun', off we went to area called Frank something, we sat in corner bar, he talked to his budy the spanish I didn't understand but in 5 mins I was sorrounded by about 20 young chicas, I bought them all drinks and wasnt even 5 cuc. I finally pick this Rihanna look like chick with little bit bigger ass and also told Randy to pick one for himself. The deal was all night untill 5am for 20 cuc. They didn't want to stay after 5am because they didn't want to be seen in daylight going back home, otherwise these are not the pros you see in downtown Havana, these are local girls having fun,

Second night we went to the same place and my Rihanna was not there, so I picked this most beautiful so far I did in Cuba, she just turned 18 young and energetic mix of black and white, even when I busted a nut and tired she kept playing with my charlie all night. I really liked this chick and I asked her to go back to Varadero with me but she told me her parents won't let her because she is in College. Third night I didn't want to nuthing else but the same chick who drawn all my energy again.

Well It was time to go back to my Casa in Cardenas outside Varadero, My first night back there we went to the local club with Randy and Duniesky family, I got all of them drunk almost 10 people for less than 50 cuc. (they were ordering drinks at local price, not me, cheap). They were all working on getting me any girl I would like in there, well I pick this girl mix of Indian and white, small pettite cute. I took her to my Casa and she didn't even ask for money. I gave her $5 watch I bought from walmart and she was happy as hell.

Next day Duniesky and Randy called the girl they went to school with who lived several hrs away, they told me this is the most beautiful girl you will see in Cuba. Well it wasnt the hottest I seen in Cuba but she was hot and sweet with good heard, I was attached with her in one day and I spent the rest of my vacation with her. We went to Guama, Playa Larga, Jovellana, and many more places getting free action day and night, I didn't have to pay her nuthing. When I left I felt bad the way this girl treated me like King and negotiated taxis and buses, I mean she took a taxi for us from Guama to Jovellano for only 2 cuc, It would cost me more than $50 if I was solo. So I gave her my laptop and radio when I left, I told her to keep them for me. I still talk to her and her family.

After my secont trip I advice you guys to find local friends, just bring them gifts like tshirts, watches, sunglasses from dollar store, and you will have blast for cheap. Good action with non pros for free of few dollars.

I am not going to post Randy and Duniesky informations here but whoever need them just pm me and I will be more than happy to hook you up as long as you stay away from my chicks hahah.

Also when you find the chick you like, I advice you to take her to Villa de Guama, is a nice hideaway place and she will appreciate you to take her there and they will give you that thing with all the energy they got.

Hasta Luego. Get rosetta stone, learn basic spanish, you won't regret it.

Velasco

06-02-13, 05:05

I was briefly in Havana, stayed in Centro by the Capitolio for a couple of nights. A few general observations as well as my experience.

Took in some serious sightseeing. It was after 5pm when I wandered by the Capitolio and saw another foreign guy that looked European, either Italian or Spanish. With him was a young (22 yo) Cubana. I don't know how long they had been together, but as I was watching, a cop approached them and focused on the girl. The cop was soon on the radio calling in the girl's carnet information and a few minutes later, a police car pulled up and took the girl away. All this time the girl barely uttered a word, but the European guy was pleading with the cop all the time, right upto the time the police car pulled away with the girl in it and left him standing there. He had a guilty look of "What have I just done to this poor girl?"

Anyway, I wandered over to an old woman hawker looking for a cucurucho de mani, but all she had was candy. I pulled out a few pesos Cubanos to pay for the gum anyway. Needless to say, she immediately knew I was not a Cuban the moment I opened my mouth, she yells something to someone around and moments later a young curvy Cubana with curly hair was standing next to me asking if we could go to my casa. I said no. My senora had told me she did not allow female company, and the girl's aggressive manner put me off. I am not really into daytime quickies anyway. So a quick note for those interested in avoiding aggressive male jineteros, the little viejita selling candy will do the same job for you.

Later on that night I wandered around looking for action. I walked by the Hotel Inglaterra and there was a queue waiting to go into the basement club on the side of the building. The posters and neon indicated it was some kind of club. I don't think this is part of the Hotel Inglaterra, but it was definitely attached to the building next door. So I got in line, and the guys at the door noticed I was not Cuban as I was going in when they said something and I did not initially realize they were talking to me. The entrance fee was pretty small, no more than 5 CUC. The extranjero realization immediately meant more attention my way, as one of them escorts me to a table and offers to get me a girl. He returns with a slim, stunning mulata with black hair. She reminded me of the actress Tatiana Ali from The Fresh Prince of Bel Air. I chat with her for a sec or two. She tells me she is 20 and I tell her she is too young. She left, returned with a friend that was more like the singer Lauren Hill from the Fugees and my excitement level skyrocketed. She told me she was 29, about 172 cm with good curves on her. She had tight jeans and a t-shirt and spoke some English. This should tell you something about my age, if I prefer Lauren Hill over Tatiana Ali.

I know most here would have jumped at the 20 year old, but we all have different tastes. This thing happens to me a lot, in Cuba and elsewhere. The crowd in that basement bar / club was mostly Cuban and 50% black with about a 3:1 female to male ratio. I actually did not take the time to look around extensively, but that was the impression I got. Anyway, my Cuban Lauren Hill told me she was from Santiago and lived in Havana with her siblings, but their parents were back in Santiago. I bought drinks and cigarettes for her and the 20 yo friend who wandered by a few times, all at reasonable prices. She even escorted me to the bathroom, waiting for me outside the men's room when I went in. I think a part of her was afraid I might get grabbed by another chica. There was a small but lively dance floor, though we never danced. Eventually, we decided to leave and go to a place she knew nearby. So we walk arms around each other past several cops about 4-5 blocks further into Centro and talk to this guy that was obviously a hustler. She said we could use his place so we go upstairs to the bedroom and it was normal, but for the super low ceiling. I figured the guy had built the bedroom upstairs as an add-on, and then run out of cash? I am a pretty normal 177 cm (5'8") tall, and I had just about enough space to stand up. The guy who owned the place was shorter than I was, so I guess he had figured there was no need for a higher ceiling. Only in Cuba! The place was clean, though the heat must kill him in the summer.

Anyway, she was pretty laid back and seemed more confident now. She sat down on the bed and asked me to undress first. I actually remember this moment as she had a mischievous look on her face when she said " I want to see what you've got." I am pretty self assured too, so I took her up on it. The bed was pretty low, so her face was at the same level as my crotch when I straightened back up. She started stoking me and looking up to me as I got hard in her hands. Moments later she was blowing me. My knees got weak pretty quickly, so I moved to lay down on the bed as she undressed. Her body was amazing. Yes, she did not have the perfection and tightness of a 20 year old, but the curves were there, and she had just the right amount of meat on her bones. Things heated up further from there, and I forget which one of us pulled out a condom. Several position changes later, I blew. We both used the bathroom, and chatted for a while. Like many Cubans, she seemed very interested in my career and why I was in Cuba. I told her I was planning to travel east and she offered to tag along if I was interested. Overall, I kinda sensed that she knew she had passed her peak as a jinetera, and was beginning to think, What next? The fact that she had escorted me to the toilet in the club was a sure sign of some insecurity on her part, although I had told her I was not interested in some 20 yo.

As I was leaving to walk back to my casa, one of the guys at the door to the club showed up. I recall thinking WTF! But I guess he wanted his cut from her. I forget how much I gave her, but it was pretty reasonable, probably 40 CUC, with maybe 25 CUC spent at the club. After some research, I realized that the place I went to was the Cabaret Nacional located in the basement of the Gran Teatro de la Habana and right across from the Hotel Inglaterra. Well, there was no cabaret the night I was there. Then again, I was there probably close to midnight so maybe it was over by then. See attached pic I found online. I did not have my camera when I went to the club so I have no pic of this Cubana.

Velasco

06-03-13, 06:42

Day 2 of 2 in Havana.

After visiting friends, I decided to check out the casa de la musica, and probably got there close to 1 am. It had a nice mix of locals and tourists, and the live band was playing a hard salsa / timba mix. I am a good dancer for a non-Latino, but that music was hard to get into for some reason. I danced with and bought drinks a few girls here and there. Although none of them particularly caught my eye, there was one gorgeous negra decked in all white santeria style. Her head wrap, earrings, necklace, dress and shoes were all white. I was put off by the aggressive nature of the women, I guess there are some here that enjoy that but it is a turn off for me, $60 CUC seemed to be the going rate that night, as per the few quotes I received. I decided to call it a night and headed back to Centro. I took a taxi and asked the driver to drop me off at the Capitolio. I was taking a morning trip outside of Havana, wanted to get laid once more and it was past 2 am.

I then wandered around the streets, which were fairly deserted apart from the occasional cops at the corners. The only concentration of people was at food stands. I had actually crossed Parque Central and was in Havana Vieja by now walking slowly in the direction of Plaza de Armas. I then saw a couple of young chicas coming towards me. I stopped them under the pretense of asking for directions, but the moment I opened my mouth they knew what was up. They were obviously heading back home after a night out, as both were very dressed up. I asked them their ages. 21 and 26. In this case, the 26 year old was ACTUALLY the hotter one, and I checked her carnet just to be on the safe side, as she could have passed for a 16 year old in my eyes. She was about 155 cm (5ft 1). She was a mulata, and wore a short, tight black one shoulder dress and had large, brown eyes that many a man would not resist. Her hair was straightened and went down to her shoulders. Her friend left us and she said we could go to a friend's place. After a few turns in Havana Vieja, she led me inside a building and up a dark flight of stairs. She knocked on a door and an older, total MILF woman answered. She had definitely been asleep. After a brief chat, I gave the senora some cash, probably 10 or 15 CUC, I forget. We headed into an extra room and she sat to wait in the living room. I have to say, some of these buildings in old Havana may not look good from the outside, but the ones that have been fixed up look pretty good inside, as this one did.

The room had a double bed and was clean. She undressed and her body was perfect. She was definitely a size 2, and could easily fit into a size 0. Her breasts were small and perky, she did not even have a bra, didn't really need one anyway. She weighed no more than 45 kilos (100 pounds) , a true spinner that I was easily able to pick up and maneuver around my dick. I have to say, she knew how to wrap those skinny legs and arms around me when I was on top, in the midst of squeals of pleasure from her. I don't think I gave her more than 50 CUC. Whatever it was, it was reasonable or I would remember. I don't think there was a woman more interested in me in Cuba than this one, I just may have told her my entire bio. She wanted to see me again the next day, but I told her I was leaving Havana in the morning. We talked for a while after we were done, but we both knew the senora of the house was waiting in the living room. I really had no idea where we were in Havana Vieja, so she offered to escort me back to my casa and we talked along the way. Walking arms around each other, we passed a few cops who figured both of us were Cubanos. She asked if she could travel outside of Havana with me and again, I declined. She hardly spoke any English. When I asked her why someone as amazing as her did not have a Cuban novio or husband, she said Cuban men are all about "Fuckee fuckee, but no money."

When we got to my casa she asked if I had any stuff I could give her. She waited inside the front door while I ran in and grabbed a towel and a few other items I had brought extras to give away. She had also asked for my email address, which I wrote on the back of my business card. I received an email from her while I was still in Cuba and another several weeks after I had left Cuba. Having no intention to marry her I deleted them all. It occurred to me later that I could have grabbed my camera and gotten some pics of her after she walked me home. She seemed like a nice girl, and other than the request for stuff at my casa (which kinda surprised me) , I enjoyed her vibe. Looking back, I think she is the kind of Cubana a foreign man would fall for, she seemed very interested in developing a continuing relationship with me, and is definitely the hottest chica I have hooked up with in Cuba. I can imagine someone seeing her as marriage material. Who knows, maybe she has met someone as we speak.

BrasilSoccer0

06-03-13, 09:21

You think she was so into you? Really? Could it be the 3-4 months of wages you gave her for a single encounter?

You said it yourself, she offered to escort you to your casa but then asked you if you had some stuff to give her! And you still think she is marriage material.

It's like you are fooling yourself.

Either you are desperate or inexperienced with women in general and cabanas in particular.

Wow. I pay 10-20 per 24hrs rate plus meals. FOR non pros bro. And when I come back they switch pro escorting old desperate men for 20-60 a pop.

Why is it hard or too intelligent for some mongers to really understand economics in an embargoed socialist state is beyond me.

I think I should move to Cuba and run an introduction business and charge a fee per girl like around 10cuc and the girl will cost 20 cuc for two pops. NO JOKE!

Jonesie

06-03-13, 22:58

Groin Patter

06-04-13, 05:44

And the value of criticizing is? The guy had a good time, he made a few mistakes, and learned quite a bit. I don't think he went too crazy, just a few newbie errors.

Thanks for the reportThis is an example of how to get scammed by a cuban working girl. This guy has no idea that he was played, what a [Deleted by Admin]. It's [Deleted by Admin] like him that fucked up Cuba for the rest of us. Her scamming was rewarded by this guy so next time she try to scam me and you and every other person until she finds another [Deleted by Admin] and believe me she will.

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Rock Harders

06-04-13, 06:44

Mongers-

What we have here is a clear case of a "NMG- No Money Guy" who just seethes at the thought that other guys do not have to sweat it out or worry about paying tens of dollars more for a piece of ass while on vacation. Yes, the average salary for a Cuban with no access whatsoever to tourism money and / or remittances is $16 CUC / month; however, this is 2013 NOT 1996 and Havana is FILLED with people with access to tourism money and many of these people are making HUNDREDS of CUCs / month (some more). The creme de la creme of Havana ladies knows what their pussy can be rented for and are going to demand and receive 40- 80 CUC depending on the circumstances. Go to La Cecelia on a weekend night and the vast majority of the patrons are Cubans spending money like it's water on bottles of high-end scotch, rum, and vodka. There are high end private restaurants in the Miramar area that charge in CUC and are full of Cubans living high on the hog. Yes, if you care to spend your time roaming the streets for a desperate diamond in the rough you may be able to beat her down a few CUC but who has the time to waste on that shit while on vacation?

Suerte,

Rock Harders.

You think she was so into you? Really? Could it be the 3-4 months of wages you gave her for a single encounter?

You said it yourself, she offered to escort you to your casa but then asked you if you had some stuff to give her! And you still think she is marriage material.

It's like you are fooling yourself.

Either you are desperate or inexperienced with women in general and cabanas in particular.

Wow. I pay 10-20 per 24hrs rate plus meals. FOR non pros bro. And when I come back they switch pro escorting old desperate men for 20-60 a pop.

Why is it hard or too intelligent for some mongers to really understand economics in an embargoed socialist state is beyond me.

I think I should move to Cuba and run an introduction business and charge a fee per girl like around 10cuc and the girl will cost 20 cuc for two pops. NO JOKE!

Velasco

06-04-13, 08:31

Thanks, Jonesie and Rock Harders.

We need to realize that there is no "One size fits all" experience when it comes to Cuban women. A few thoughts from this Fulano.

- I guess I was not totally clear on the money, the 50 CUC INCLUDED the room, which was either 10 or 15 CUC. The request for stuff came right at the end, after I had made it clear I was not interested in her accompanying me across Cuba.

- The timing was not really in my favor. It was after 2 am, I needed to grab a few hours of sleep before leaving Havana in the morning and options were limited.

- This chick was hot, I am talking actress Kerry Washington hot.

- I don't mind spending a few more CUC on drinks etc. I did not mention this in my earlier report on the chica in Centro by the Inglaterra, but when I bought her a drink I noticed she was sharing her Cristal beer with the younger 20 yo friend that had sat with me initially. I decided to just buy enough drinks for her friend too while I was there. So what if I bought an extra 2-3 beers and a pack of cigarettes for her friend in the course of the night? I just consider it polite and decent, and the Cubanas were actually pleasantly surprised by that. I guess some cynics here might say I was being naive or looking to show off, but I would have felt weird seeing the friend come by every once in a while for a sip of her Cristal.

- This forum exists for people to share their experiences. We are not in a competition to see who has hooked up with the most Cubanas for the least amount of money. There are the occasional or newbie posters who hesitate to share their experiences on forums like this one for fear of criticism, so we need to tone things down. I have received a PM or two down the years sharing this exact thought.

RE: Marriage material. I have a good friend who once married a Cubana who then proceeded to "Disappear like Matias Perez" about 6 weeks after leaving Cuba. She later resurfaced in Miami. I have always wondered how men fall for a Cubana practically overnight, and the chica in my second report is probably the first Cubana I have hooked up with that sent that jolt through me. I have no plans to marry a Cubana, partly because of the experience that my friend had, but meeting her somehow gave me a better understanding of how that happens to other men.

Cubanas are far from my main reason for coming to Cuba. In fact, it took me 3 trips to Cuba before I ever hooked up with a Cuban woman. I am drawn to Cuba because of the history / politics / economy. Music is reason no. 2, the women are third. I would probably spend about the same amount of time in Cuba even if it had the reputation for the stiffest, least sensual women in the Americas (Who does, maybe Chile?). I did note my first Havana report that I "Took in some serious sightseeing."

BeersTerry

06-05-13, 22:55

I love Cuba. Cubanas can be the best actresses. Isn't that all we want?

$50 is overpaying? I may have overpaid way too many times then. As Jonesie said, a good time was had, I don't think Velasco grossly overpaid so what is the big deal? I mean, I have seen some retards and I mean that literally being lead around by a jinetero trying to find a chica to fuck the guy. Think that guy might have paid more than $50 ?

There is alot of money flowing around Cuba. The last purge eliminated bosses and let the workers loose to steal everything since the bosses were not replaced, at least not immediately. I have a fren who manages to steal between $100. $200 most nights. His problem is that his family eats and drinks it all.

Start123

06-07-13, 09:35

I love Cuba. Cubanas can be the best actresses. Isn't that all we want? The crazy thing about Cuba is there is no consistency. You can get laid with a hot chica for 20 CUC and the next day you can't find anyone for less than 50! It used be so much easier back in the 90's but yes, I know, that golden era is not coming back.

I had women telling me convincingly that the going rate in Havana is 80-100CUC. They are good actresses! I had women walking out of casa when I offered 45 CUC for 30 min! They were pros introduced to me as non pros! And no, I am not old and ugly. I look like a guy who should be getting it for free! The key is to find a non pro who has a regular job and earns 20 CUC a month. They are far in between nowadays I think.

I just hope everyone would stick to 20-25 CUC and the prices would go down rapidly and no more BS! Thailand is a good example of this kind of pricing.

Tank Not Mt

06-12-13, 23:04

Can all Cuba experts please give me the low down on Havanna. I'm considering paying a visit and I would like to know what to expect. Are there bars / clubs where one can pick up girls for money? Professional escorts? Are the hotels ok with bringing back girls. Etc. Please excuse my ignorance but I have no idea what to expect.Don't be lazy. There's a wealth of information on this post and most of it is current. I've been to Havana maybe 20 times in the past 10 years and its really nice. People are warm and friendly. Just go with the flow and you'll have a great time. If you get stuck, and still need help, pm me and I will give you the name of my Cuban contact for Casas locations, food, etc.

Questner

06-13-13, 03:38

Neill Caffrey

06-16-13, 16:39

Velasco

06-17-13, 20:00

Can all Cuba experts please give me the low down on Havanna. I'm considering paying a visit and I would like to know what to expect. Are there bars / clubs where one can pick up girls for money? Professional escorts? Are the hotels ok with bringing back girls. Etc. Please excuse my ignorance but I have no idea what to expect.I echo the guy who said "Don't be lazy?" Have you read the forum? There are plenty of reports going back a few years, in the Havana section and beyond, with more than enough information. Change happens very slowly in Cuba, so don't say you figured the old reports are already outdated. Cuba is a great place, but you have to do your homework. Hopefully, your next post will begin with the following sentence. "I have read lots of reports and have a few follow up questions"

Giotto Texan

06-20-13, 20:09

Can you pm me please I would like the contact numbers from Randy and Duniesky. I will go there in November.Hi Neill, I'm new in this website and I can't find the pm button to send [Deleted by Admin] may go back there around that time too so keep in touch.

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Giotto Texan

06-20-13, 20:35

Very nice first post. I for one, am very jealous. Be kind enough to get PM privileges :-DHow do I get PM privileges.

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Denom

06-24-13, 13:56

I am surprised that nobody posted that Salon Rojo was closed. I went there a couple of weeks ago and doors were shut with no sign on it.

I heard different stories as to why, but the most likely is that authorities had a fit of crackdown on prostitution.

Apparently, Salon Rojo has been closed for nearly two months already. So it's kind of strange that there has been no report about it.

Adinga

06-25-13, 04:27

I think Salon Rojo just priced themselves out of the market.

I've noticed fewer Italian and Spaniards tourists in Salon Rojo over the years but more Cuban patrons.

Cuba has become an overpriced tourist destination in a poor economy.

BeersTerry

06-26-13, 16:01

I've not been for 5 months as I took a trip to DR instead, but tourism in Cuba has been down. The stats probably don't say that but Cuban tourism workers say that. Thieving has become epidemic

A factor that has to be considered why there are fewer Italians y Spaniards is that their economies are in the toilet.

Big Dogie

06-26-13, 20:17

I haven 't been to SR since October at that time the the place had maybe only 10 tourists and 50 girls. I will miss this place lots of good memories, but it was Capri before so name change and it will reopen as something else somewhere down the line.

Be the

Rock Harders

06-27-13, 03:35

Mongers-

I was in Havana in late January 2013 and at that time Salon Rojo was in full swing; in fact, on Sunday January 20th SR was packed with girls and guys and was by far the best I have ever seen it in terms of volume and quality. What had changed noticeably was that La Cecilia was no longer primarily populated with hundreds of girls on the prowl as it once was; instead it was almost all regular cash laden Cubans spending money like it was water (the sons and daughters of the political connected and "new rich" owners of businesses I imagine). In fact there were very few working girls at all in La Cecilia. To hear that Salon Rojo is closed makes it blatantly obvious that it was a political and not economic decision made by the government to shutter what functioned as a full fledged house of prostitution. Remember, everybody (including the girls) paid 5 CUC to walk in the door and that liquor / beer are very high margin products (especially those made in Cuba using near-slave labor!). To the poster "big dogie": Salon Rojo has ALWAYS been called Salon Rojo, dating back to its opening in the Bautista late 50's heyday; it was the nightclub and showroom for the adjacent Capri Hotel (now closed, SR stayed open until recently apparently). Actor George Raft was actually Salon Rojo's frontman / owner before Castro pissed on everybody's parade.

Suerte.

Rock Harders

El Chico

06-27-13, 15:19

I'm just guessing, but I heard the adjacent Capri Hotel is due to reopen soon, so the Salon Rojo may just be closed for renovations so everything can reopen together.

Denom

06-27-13, 17:11

I also think the closure of SR is a political move. It's timed with negative articles in the international press last March and some stupid statements by the lesbian daughter of Raoul Castro.

Still possible to have good fun in Cuba but it does take a lot of work and quite some luck. At least to get the real gems, because for the others all it takes is to cross eyes. It's true that it has become an expensive place in a poor country, and everything is just an uphill fight.

A scam I ran into is the double menu thing in restaurants. They have a menu for when you go in there with a local, and another menu if you just walk in from the street. What would cost 6 CUC in the walk-in menu, would cost 16 CUC in the other. They count on the fact that once seated with your guest you would be too ashamed to protest. So a good advice: check the prices before you sit down and walk out if overpriced. You can always claim you don't like the choice of food.

Big Dogie

06-27-13, 17:49

Mongers-

To the poster "big dogie": Salon Rojo has ALWAYS been called Salon Rojo, dating back to its opening in the Bautista late 50's heyday; it was the nightclub and showroom for the adjacent Capri Hotel (now closed, SR stayed open until recently apparently). Actor George Raft was actually Salon Rojo's frontman / owner before Castro pissed on everybody's parade.

Suerte.

Rock HardersI stand corrected, I must have misinterpreted what a Cuban friend told me, he always called it Capri. On a funny note yesterday I was watching the Godfather part II, Hyman Roth promised the Capri to the Corleone family after his death or retirement.

Be the

Travel2040

06-30-13, 09:40

Although Salon Rojo is closed there are still many good places in Havana; Johnny's, Don Cangrejo, La Maison, La Cecilia, Casa De La Musica and others.

Travel2040

06-30-13, 15:55

Hi!

Since they closed closed SR I got some doubts staying in Cuba for 2 weeks. Does anyone know of any cheap flights to South America / Centralamerica or DR from Havana? Like under 500 $.Although Salon Rojo is closed there are still many good places in Havana; Johnny's, La Cecilia, Don Cangrejo, La Maison, Casa De La Musica and others.

Hotzo

07-02-13, 20:43

Although Salon Rojo is closed there are still many good places in Havana; Johnny's, La Cecilia, Don Cangrejo, La Maison, Casa De La Musica and others.Exactly, I never had the requirement to take a chica from SR, head to Havana Centro (I always have my casa there) and you will be served.

Hotzo

NyMontreal

07-04-13, 20:39

Kalifornication

07-05-13, 02:15

Don't worry about the police so long as you do not engage minors, as you should NOT. I am leaving Saturday and will be in Havana Tuesday the 9th of July in the evening. Probably about 10PM as I am arriving from another province. If you want to meet, pm me soon.

I am looking for some advice. And maybe a reality check. I will be in Havana tomorrow for one week. I am traveling with a group and won't have a lot of free time in my schedule. Just to make matters worse, I don't speak Spanish.

Any suggestions for someone in my situation, ofher than come back later under better circumstances? If I do connnect with someone, how much do I need to be concerned with police interest? I have some $$ to spend.

Thanks!

Velasco

07-05-13, 07:19

I am looking for some advice. And maybe a reality check. I will be in Havana tomorrow for one week. I am traveling with a group and won't have a lot of free time in my schedule. Just to make matters worse, I don't speak Spanish.

Any suggestions for someone in my situation, ofher than come back later under better circumstances? If I do connnect with someone, how much do I need to be concerned with police interest? I have some $$ to spend.

Thanks!Interesting situation indeed. I think you should be able to get away if you are in Havana. I was once in the exact situation on my first visit to Cuba 17 years ago, but this was in a very small town. The difference is, I was with a group of my fellow college students. Our Cuban- American professor had read us the Jinetera riot act. I chose not to pursue anything, as it was a small town and he just might have heard something. I would have felt very weird continuing to sit in his classroom had that happened, not to mention my fellow radical feminist classmates that were part of the trip. When I returned to Cuba a few years later, I was married, so no activity on that trip either. It was not until after my divorce that I returned to Cuba to monger.

My advice, Havana is big enough for you to get away and do something, so go for it. However, do weigh the cost benefit analysis should your group find out about your activity.

BRCitizen

07-08-13, 01:43

ok, so i've done a whole lot of lurking, and the information on this board has proven valuable, so now i'll give back to the community by posting my own report. flew into havana from mexico, on cubana, only 40 minutes late, an inordinate amount of smoke belching from the engine, but safely landing nonetheless. welcome to cuba. last time i did this was actually in the heyday of when some of you old timers say it was really awesome. around the turn of the millenium. i knew going in that re-living that trip would be all but impossible, yet still i was determined to try. bottom line. yes, cuba has, shall we say, professionalized and gotten smarter at extracting money from tourists, but i too am older and wiser, not to mention armed with the information from this forum.

aduana was no problem. no one asked where i was staying. insurance was 4cuc per day, payable in dollars, pesos, euros, or my as-of-yet nonexistent cucs.

first thing i did was get the casa situation in order. i went with an agency. several in fact. i followed the advice of someone here on the forum and made it known that i would want no issues with guests. they knew exactly what i meant and were more than happy to oblige. i knew even from last time to expect the old cuban switcheroo. it worked ok last time, but things were more mellow then, and i really wanted to make sure that i had a good place with all my requirements (location, privacy, working a / c, etc). if i got there and things weren't right, i'd be armed with backup numbers of agents who i could call up and ask what they had. well the fact that no one met me at the airport as agreed upon was not the best sign. no problem. taxi is readily available for 20cuc to vedado. but what would await me when i got there?

turns out i needn't have worried. the owner met me at the bottom of what turned out to be a large highrise. the apartment was superb. high floor, independent entrance, ocean views from the balcony, close to the nacional and habana libre so many taxis plying the streets nearby. kitchen, bottled water provided free, a / c, decent bed, super safe and secure, including lockable closet. i'm like, wow! all this is mine for 40cuc a night? and the owners were beyond cool. nice, professional folks you can have a conversation with, but totally respectful of my privacy. they live in the place adjacent, but they made it clear that they would totally respect my privacy and could care less who i brought over as long as she wasn't ****. but conversely, they warned me about all the scams out there and said that they would like to see the carnet just to make sure that there's no trouble- not to register the girl, mind you. they didn't even have to see her. i could knock on the door at any hour, slip the carnet under, they'the write down the info, and then slip it back. and. if i found this arrangement too invasive of my privacy, they even let me have another option. i myself could simply write the info, toss it later. they want no issues with police or immigration or whomever. but just write it down on my own and keep it. they wouldn't enforce it, but strongly advised the former option just for my own safety. truly awesome. what more can you ask for?

i took the same precaution as last time and divided my cash into 3 parts, and stashed it in 3 different places, though with the lockable closet this plan could be modified a bit. after a fancy. well, actually so-so dinner at le chansonnier, i was ready to go out on the town.

first stop, casa de la musica galeano.

i really wanted to try la cecelia, but as this was wednesday, decided to settle for casa de la musica. maybe 50 chicas there, maybe 5 tourists. it's low season, and the fact that the economies of italy and spain are in deep doo-doo, can't hurt. mostly mulattas. not my thing generally as i usually go for the lighter-skinned chicas, but some of these cubanas can be quite hot. unfortunately it seems like the mulattas are the most aggressive. i couldn't get rid of all the mulattas and negritas, while the blondes all seemed to bide their time, looking for. god knows what, because the pickins of tourists were rather slim. i tried approaching a few, but they just had the crappiest attitudes, so i finally settled on samantha, a hot mulatta who could really move on the dance floor. i should probably mention that i'm well under 50 and speak decent enough spanish to get by, though my spanish skills go downhill quickly with raggaeton blaring in the background and some chica trying to tell me something in a cuban accent. so anyway. unfortunately my mulatta hottie moved better on the dance floor than in bed. not bad, but not the best. no bbbj, but i actually don't want that anyway. there's no practical difference between hsv 1 and hsv 2, both can be passed both ways, and i want to minimize my chance of either. but that's just me, to each their own. 60 cuc. yeah, probably overpaid, but it's not that big of a deal. i guess i'm not the world's greatest bargainer. i'm also not as hardnosed as some have advised here. i simply can't operate that way. i did set a rule not to pay upfront, which of course everyone wants now. yes, gone are the days when you could take a chica back and screw for hours and no money would ever be discussed except maybe a little "gift" at the end. still, i firmly but politely refused, borrowing phrases from jonesie like "when you go to a restaurant my love, you eat first and pay after." in the end, i'the usually compromise and leave it out somewhere where she could see it. it worked pretty well.

thursday. living dangerously.

getting into the swing of things and just hanging out in havana, some things really haven't changed at all since the glory days. back then cuba was easy, now you have to work it more, like cuba works you. but work you it does, in bad ways and good. i've gotten pick-up offers walking the streets of havana vieja, on the malecóand. particularly outside the overpoliced areas near the hotel nacional, on la rampa, from flirtatious guides at some tourist attractions, you name it. the problem is that my standards go up exponentially in cuba. i'm looking for 9s and 10s, i'm shopping for quality not price. and most of these offers are just not that. i did give in to one caribbean beauty in centro habana who seemed a bit more attractive than the rest. and thus began what i dub my "jonesie experience". up a rickety ladder in a converted shag shack in some dingy side street in centro habana, members of the extended family / friends nonchalantly lounging around down below. no dog under the bed, but pretty much every other element of jonesie's tales was present. this whole "only in cuba experience" set me back 35 cuc including the shack. cautious to the max, having to use local condoms would've been a dealbreaker, but luckily i was prepared. of course in other ways, here i was throwing caution to the wind and shacking up in some godforsaken corner of centro habana after dark. the family / friends asked me to make sure that if i was stopped, i would not tell the policía where i went. they needn't have bothered. i don't think even the policía comes around much to streets like this. fortunately my passport and 2/3 of my cash was safely locked away in my beautiful apartment. i figure that havana is about the safest big city in the world, but just to make sure, it's worth taking a few precautions.

not quite satisfied with the night just yet, decided to check out turquino just to see what it's like. don't bother. at least not for chicas. cover was only 5 cuc, and for the views it's worth going up there for that price. but the chica to tourist ratio sucked, and those who were there were not amazing. tried to find salon rojo (hadn't actually read these last reports). maybe it's for the best that i was disappointed. checked out a small disco called tikoa, but was unimpressed with the talent. the bouncer let me have a look without paying the cover. didn't like what a saw so i left. a cab driver offered to take me to a great club with "a mountain of chicas". hadn't heard about it and i forget the name. i declined. the prospect of going to some unknown club in bfe and then being at the mercy of my newfound "fren" who would no doubt charge me triple to get me home. that just didn't appeal to me.

it was getting late anyway and since i didn't feel like heading out to miramar, that left casa de la musica again as the one good option. unfortunately it was much the same scene, and much the same chicas. samantha made a good effort trying to sell herself for another round, but i felt like something different tonight. still, she taught me how to dance to reggaetóand, but i just can't get into that. but in any case, i was dog tired after an ambitious tourist agenda (i didn't just go for chicas, after all) , so at 2:30 decided to call it a night. two dudes just inside the door corraled me into using them for taxi services. we agreed on 5 cuc and off we went. if this was any other country, getting into a random car at 3am with two random dudes would probably be a surefire way to get you killed. it's still probably a not-so-hot idea in cuba. but the difference is that in cuba. 99 times out of 100 nothing will happen to you. as it happened, they're the ones who got nailed. the policía stopped them not 10 blocks away to collect their pound of flesh. policia is the same the world over. in america, the corruption is just more elegant, more institutionalized.

friday. a long strange night.

also the best, but i think that's enough for now. i'll save the rest for part 2

Travel2040

07-08-13, 17:33

Ok, so I've done a whole lot of lurking, and the information on this board has proven valuable, so now I'll give back to the community by posting my own report. Flew into Havana from Mexico, on Cubana, only 40 minutes late, an inordinate amount of smoke belching from the engine, but safely landing nonetheless. Welcome to Cuba. Last time I did this was actually in the heyday of when some of you old timers say it was really awesome. Around the turn of the millenium. I knew going in that re-living that trip would be all but impossible, yet still I was determined to try. Bottom line. Yes, Cuba has, shall we say, professionalized and gotten smarter at extracting money from tourists, but I too am older and wiser, not to mention armed with the information from this forum.

Aduana was no problem. No one asked where I was staying. Insurance was 4CUC per day, payable in dollars, pesos, Euros, or my as-of-yet nonexistent CUCs...Great report and welcome to the forum. I was in Cuba in January this year as newbie and liked the country. Maybe I go back to Cuba in September? The girls on the Island are lovely. Did you get sone information about the situation for Salon Rojo?

Conte Garsia

07-09-13, 17:15

Hi to everybody,

In few days I am going to the Havana and I will stay at Nacional. Can anyone inform me if there is possibility to take girl in the hotel? Also is there anyone that played game with a dancer from Parisiéand or Tropicana.

Thanks

Travel2040

07-10-13, 12:30

Hi to everybody

In few days I am going to the Havana and I will stay at Nacional. Can anyone inform me if there is possibility to take girl in the hotel? Also is there anyone that played game with a dancer from Parisiéand or Tropicana.

ThanksIn my opinion the best way to have girls in Cuba are to stay in Casa Particular (private). In hotels there are more complicated. Hotel Nacional is a very nice hotel. I spent some time there in the swimming pool and the outdoor café. Very nice during the daytime to relax with coffe or something to drink.

BRCitizen

07-10-13, 15:49

Great report and welcome to the forum. I was in Cuba in January this year as newbie and liked the country. Maybe I go back to Cuba in September? The girls on the Island are lovely. Did you get sone information about the situation for Salon Rojo?I actually didn't bother asking. No point, I figured. It won't help me for this trip, and everything changes anyway. The chicas will still be there, somewhere, no matter what they do or what they close. They will always find a way.

BRCitizen

07-10-13, 19:49

long strange night.

friday i finally decided to check out la cecelia, which had it not been for this forum, would not have even been on my radar. la cecelia wasn't hoppin'. oh no, that would be an understatement. la cecelia was out. of control. i got there shortly before midnight and it was total chaos. the line was stretching around the block, there was another shorter line on the other side of the entrance, and some people seemed to just be getting in through the front, where once in a while they would let in a car or two. the bouncers were struggling to keep everyone back, people were screaming and yelling and pleading to get in. wtf? and here i am with my somewhat limited espanol trying to make sense of it all! i decided early on that i wasn't standing in the humongous line which would probably take hours to clear, but clearly i was not a vip, so some initial efforts to worm my way in failed. finally i managed to get in with a group of people when the bouncer turned the other way for a moment. i thought i heard someone call after me, but i ignored it and figured better to ask for forgiveness than permission. especially when one is a tourist in cuba.

inside wasn't any different. the place was packed to the gills. there was talent all right. o. m. g. what talent! but there were also lots of ordinary cubans and their girlfriends, groups of girls together, etc. almost no tourists to speak of. who was who was virtually impossible to tell, and i had no clue how i could find anyone, when merely navigating through the tables was near impossible. frankly it was a little intimidating! well all my worries were for naught, because soon enough the right chicas were finding me. or the wrong chicas depending on your perspective. determined to find a light-skinned hottie, i fought off the temptation of settling for the first or second girl who latched on to me, even though navigating the place was near impossible. then i saw her. my blond stunner (i'm very stingy with 10's, but she was definitely a 9). yeah, i could be smart and bide my time, but ya know. at some point maybe you have to recognize a good thing when you see it. we got the business of the night out of the way. she wanted 100, we settled for 80. i know it's 20 too much, but i really didn't feel like having protracted negotiations over 20 cuc, or checking out the other talent and perhaps not running into her again. her name was taimi and she was 24. btw, is everyone in cuba a ballerina, or is "bailarina" just a generic word for dancer? either way, this girl could move!

just a couple small problems. how to get rid of her not-so-attractive mulatta friend? easy enough, i just made it clear from the start i only wanted one girl for the night. taimi told me it's not usually so packed, but tonight there were a lot of famous groups playing, plus students could get in for next to nothing in moneda nacional tonight. that explained a lot. taimi for her part genuinely enjoyed the music and dancing. maybe a bit too much? i like the fact that it wasn't all business and she was having a blast. but by half past 2am, i kinda hinted that i really didn't want to stay till 4am and close the place down.

of course nothing is simple in cuba. we had to look for her friend, because she had her friend's purse, and her friend's boyfriend was supposedly a "taxi driver". when we found her, the word from the street was there were tons of police, so we'd have to take different cars. i was wary about this whole arrangement. i'd paid 8 cuc to get there from vedado and i made it clear that i'm paying 10 and no more. i also made it clear that i only have 20's left, and i'd need some change. taimi said no problem. you're always on the lookout for a scam in cuba, but she said it's just impossible to take the same cab because the streets were just crawling with cops, and seemed genuinely distraught about the whole situation. so off i went with the mulatta's friend / boyfriend / whatever, and left the girls to get other transportation arrangements. i gave her the card of my casa and told her i'd wait for her outside the entrance. the driver tried scam me. of course. when i told him i'd need change for a 20, he said,"it is 20." i raised some hell, pulled out my last emergency 10 that i had just for this situation, and we left it at that.

so then. 3:15 comes and goes. then 3:45, and still no taimi. somehow i had a feeling something like this was going to happen, but all the while i'm wondering wtf? is this all a big scam? well if so, then what exactly did they scam me for? all my cash was still on me. yes, i used "their" driver, but i would have likely paid the same 10cuc to get home no matter what. they got absolutely nothing from me except for 10cuc i spent on drinks. i read here that if a girl scams you for even 10cucs, that's a enough score to make it worth it for some. but no, somehow that didn't make sense to me, because she was all over me the whole night, and after all she's missing out on 80cucs. is this a country that can't even pull a scam right? i finally figured that i'll never know the answer. chalk it up to another mystery of cuba, be happy that you got to dance and make out with an incredibly hot girl for 3 hours, and go to bed.

morning.

i groggily crawled out of bed around 10am, still scratching my head over last night, went to the fridge, when i saw a note from the owners slipped under my door, telling me that a chica has been knocking on your apartment door for the last 2 hours. i hadn't heard because this is one spacious apartment and my room was at the other end. she finally knocked on theirs, insisted that i had told her to wake me up (i most definitely had not) , but they told her i was sleeping and they couldn't wake me. they later told me that i'm paying them to protect my interests and my privacy, so they weren't going to take the word of some random chica. absolutely correct! these guys are the best. i would later apologize profusely for putting them in a situation where they were disturbed from their own sleep. 8am i would have still wanted some rest. 10am, on the other hand, would be just perfect! better than 3 in the morning as a matter of fact. just then i heard another knock. and who do i see at the door?

taimi apparently spent the night in decidely less comfortable digs than mine inside of a police station."didn't you see them putting the handcuffs on me?" apparently, an undercover cop had seen her with me in the club, and as soon as i left they immediately stopped her and hauled her in. complicating matters is the fact that you need a residence permit for havana, and she's a camagueyana. so they stamped her carnet with a charge of "propensity toward prostitution" and only let her go at 6:30 am."propensity." only in cuba. so she went home, showered, changed, and showed up at my door. i offered to take her to lunch, but she said she couldn't be seen on the street with me. so for the next two hours she just stayed and made love, cuddled, made love again. where else but in cuba will a hot chica show up at your door tired, hungry, but ready to go nonetheless? and then leave you her cell for later? yeah, sure, call her a pro. but if she's a pro, then that there is some serious dedication to the job!

the rest of saturday was anticlimactic by comparison. i thought about just calling taimi again, but then decided i'd see what was on offer at la cecelia again. i figured i'd get there earlier and it shouldn't be as crazy as last night. it wasn't. los desiguales were playing, but no student mob, and i decided to be a good boy and stand in the line for 45 minutes. the talent was still amazing, and this time you could figure out who's who. some of these girls are crazy hot. anywhere from 7's to a few actual 10's (even by my stingy standards). few tourists. ah, low season! i went with an 8. 5 brunette named dayana, because she could speak english seemed smarter than average, so could hold a decent conversation. and because she graduated school for physical therapy and promised a great massage on top of everything else. (irene is what she told me, but dayana is what it said on the carnet). she also promised no drama. none of this two car thing. she and her driver had the police avoidance strategy down pat. we walked out separately, i walked around the corner, and in a couple minutes a lada pulls up and the door opens. i get in and we speed off past police stopping other cars. at breakneck speeds, no less. whatever the policia are for in cuba, they're not for the enforcement of traffic laws. ah, cuba! this cloak and dagger stuff can be kind of fun sometimes."where else but in cuba?" i say. our driver just smiles and says,"cuba es facil!" (cuba's easy)

alas, dayana / irene somewhat over-promised and under-delivered. it was ok, but i kinda wished i'd checked the scene more, or just called taimi again. but i wanted variety. 4 chicas in 4 nights. and 5 or 6 would have been entirely possible if i'd worked it a bit more. in cuba, you're limited only by your spanish, your stamina, and your standards. i can see how you can develop the connections for a non-stop love-fest after just a few visits.

sunday i had a flight out. i can only fall off the grid for so long. my flight was delayed. something tells me the smoke from the engine on that first day had something to do with it. i called ahead so i knew i'd be in for a wait. my casa owners had no objection to me staying a little while longer. i could have picked up the phone and probably had taimi over for some going away fun, but i'd had enough cuban drama for a while. so i just chose to have a peaceful lunch and try another one of cuba's famed paladars. perhaps the most famed of all in fact. la guarida. in a word, unimpressed.

ok, i know this ain't no food blog, but being a foodie, i have to chime in with my 0.02cuc on the subject. i vehemently disagree with those who say that paladars are better than state-run restaurants. perhaps this is true when comparing the average paladar with the average restaurant, because by definition all paladars are geared toward higher end clientele, while state run restaurants run the gamut. but i don't eat at average places. life's too short to for average food, average chicas, or average vacations. so comparing the best paladars with the best state run restaurants, the best state run restaurants run rings around the best paladars. i actually had some really nice meals in places like cafe del oriente and el templete. thinking that cuba has really undergone some culinary evolution, while even the most highly rated paladars like dona eutima and le chansonnier left me underwhelmed.

in general, i think the tendency to pooh-pooh state run establishments is part of a tendency to dump on the whole cuban system. which is a mistake, imo. to those who say don't go just for the chicas, i would offer a very qualified agreement, only inasmuch as one shouldn't go anywhere "just for the chicas." cuba offers a tremendous amount of things to see and do, and though i spent most of my report on the girls (as appropriate for this forum) , most of my time was actually spent just enjoying everything else havana has to offer. that said, cuba may still be the very best place in the world for chicas. i can't claim to have seen everything, but my three dozen nation experience does offer a little bit in the way of comparison. and i say this because cuba offers a combination unmatched anywhere else:

1. safety, both in terms of violent crime, and in terms of having the lowest rate of aids just about anywhere. at least anywhere fun. i always use protection, but there places (like the former soviet union) , where the aids epidemic makes one wary even with protection.

2. the chicas. not only are they hot, but the culture is such that i've never seen another place where girls have so few hang-ups about sex. the level of sheer enthusiasm is a turn-on in and of itself. who cares if they want some money for it now. it's not that they have to do it because they're starving and exploited. it feels more like,"hell, i'd be doing this anyway, so why not milk it?"

3. the cost. yes, the cost. both chicas and non-chica incidentals. to those who say cuba isn't cheap, i say show me a place that is. yeah, i know you can eat for under a buck in cambodia and crash for the night for $5 in peru. but what i find is that if you want to eat well, and sleep in a place that has hot water, nice beds, and a / c, you'll pay about half of western prices no matter where you are. and that goes for cuba too.

so don't knock cuba. maybe it was better way back when, but it's still great. people like to complain both about how the government oppresses its own people, and makes things crazy for the tourist with its eccentricities. but you know what? if cuba wasn't cuba, the people would have had more access to big macs and car parts, but they wouldn't have an average life span of 80, and large numbers of them would be sleeping in the streets like they do in honduras or the dominican republic and lots of banana republic capitalist paradises the world over. and for you tourists, i can assure you that the chicas would be more desperate because it actually might be a matter of need and not just greed, have more guilt about it due to the teachings of religion, more risk from aids and crime, and paradoxically cost even more, because they'd be spoiled rotten by hordes of american spring breakers.

so take it for what it is. do your research, be prepared to make changes of plans, and go with the flow. above all, have fun!

Questner

07-11-13, 06:35

Next time share a taxi with a girl. There is no 'propensity' to stop taxis, it's a fact. Same applies to your room. However a patrol car may wait patiently outside the doors to the building, so take a closer look before letting the girl out.

Blk Big Bootyluv

07-11-13, 09:09

Nice report. I enjoyed reading it. My buddy just returned from Havana and I am so jealous that I'm planning something myself.

Peace,

BBL

Long strange night.

Friday I finally decided to check out La Cecelia, which had it not been for this forum, would not have even been on my radar. La Cecelia wasn't hoppin'. Oh no, that would be an understatement. La Cecelia was out. Of control. I got there shortly before midnight and it was total chaos. The line was stretching around the block, there was another shorter line on the other side of the entrance, and some people seemed to just be getting in through the front, where once in a while they would let in a car or two. The bouncers were struggling to keep everyone back, people were screaming and yelling and pleading to get in. WTF? And here I am with my somewhat limited espanol trying to make sense of it all! I decided early on that I wasn't standing in the humongous line which would probably take hours to clear, but clearly I was not a VIP, so some initial efforts to worm my way in failed. Finally I managed to get in with a group of people when the bouncer turned the other way for a moment. I thought I heard someone call after me, but I ignored it and figured better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Especially when one is a tourist in Cuba...

Mr Gogo

07-11-13, 13:45

BRCitizen

07-12-13, 05:15

Great reporting bro. I was just there and have already booked my return. I found a jazz club"La Zorra why el cuervo" that had great music up on 23 calle. Sofies is a great place to hang out and watch the show." La casa de musica" was nice also. I only had two hookers and we had to dodge the police as you did. But I noticed that it was many non pros also. Cubans have more time than money so they just hangout. Most times a chica can be with a guy and its nothing romantic. Just say hello, introduce yourself and ask if they would like to go have a beer. I met a girl at Santa Maria beach that way. It was four girls and three guys two chairs over and they were just friends. When the girl walked by I inquired about where I could buy myself a beer. She pointed to a guy working the beach for the Tropico hotel. I said thanks and asked if she would like a beer, she said yes. I asked about the dudes with her because I didn't want to step on any toes. She said they were just friends. As we chatted I explained that my hotel wouldn't allow guests and I hated that. She said her friend has a casa particulares and we were off 30 minutes after meeting her. She said she would have never made the first move because Cuban women like the guys to be first. Again great report.Thanks for the compliment. What I really like about Cuba (moreso back in the day) , was that you did NOT have to make the first move. Ever. On my first trip, I could just sit and say "I'm waiting for my amiga" about 10 times before the right girl approached me. I could let them try their pickup lines like "I think I'm the friend you're waiting for." I find that endearing. If they're really clever, it makes them more attractive.

See, a lot of guys like the thrill of the hunt. For me, it's just work. I hate the game. I have no game, and I hate it. In Cuba, for the first time in my life, I could go to a club and get hit on all the time. I mean, wow! How cool is that? The money I don't care about. One way or another the guy still pays. Whether she tells you upfront, asks for a "gift" later, or just milks you for lunch and dinner for her whole family, it's all the same. Upfront often winds up costing less, actually. But when the work is done for you, now that's something.

Now, Cuba is more work. Don't get me wrong, I still had a blast. And I still got hit on. But not as much, and the most attractive girls often required being approached. The difference is that anywhere else, I'd probably get rejected. In Cuba, I can approach a 9 or 10 and it would work. Complicating matters is that my standards go way up. I don't want an average chica. I want her to be gorgeous, And I want her to make the first move. That's tough. Still possible, in certain situations. But, not as much as before. But perhaps more than anywhere else.

Mr Gogo

07-12-13, 15:59

Thanks for the compliment. What I really like about Cuba (moreso back in the day) , was that you did NOT have to make the first move. Ever. On my first trip, I could just sit and say "I'm waiting for my amiga" about 10 times before the right girl approached me. I could let them try their pickup lines like "I think I'm the friend you're waiting for." I find that endearing. If they're really clever, it makes them more attractive.

See, a lot of guys like the thrill of the hunt. For me, it's just work. I hate the game. I have no game, and I hate it. In Cuba, for the first time in my life, I could go to a club and get hit on all the time. I mean, wow! How cool is that? The money I don't care about. One way or another the guy still pays. Whether she tells you upfront, asks for a "gift" later, or just milks you for lunch and dinner for her whole family, it's all the same...you're last paragraph summed it up for me. I've been to the DR over 30 times, Thailand, and 30 other countries. The pros have always been for me with an occasional non-pro who doesn't take up to much time and work. Cuba fit the bill perfectly for me. My first couple girls were pros, one from "Casa de musica" and one from 23 calle. The sex was great but once I figured out that I could wait and take a shot at something special, that became my game. It became as simple as just stopping them and asking if they would like to meet for a beer later.

It was strange because the pros seemed terrified of the police but the two non-pros went on dates with me and walked around holding hands without a worry. The non-pros said the police never bothered them. I'm thinking that once a girl gets the prostituta label from the police then she is harrassed. In fact I later found out that one of the guys with the girl I met at beach was a cop.

Cuba is just the opposite of the DR. Cuba is clean the DR is dirty. Police in Cuba watch everything, DR police might be sleep under a tree. Cuba has tourists listed as untouchable, DR has scams against tourists. Driving is respectful in Cuba with no traffic, DR is crazy with rude drivers. Most people in Cuba smoke, few people in the DR smoke.

I hope Cuba stays as it is now, few Americans and mongers. Innocent and beautiful. Ancient and safe. Also I rate the Cubanas the best latin fuckers as a group. Passionate and conciderate. Every girl went for a second pop after a little break. Sweet sounds with kissing and tongues in ears. They seem to really appreciate sex. And I also appreciate their safety concerns regarding sex. Half did condom blowjobs unless I repeated. Once they became comfortable with me condoms were only for intercourse.

But even if you take sex out of the equation, Cuba is still a great place. From the ancient buildings to the ancient cars. From the little China town they have. From the live music at every outdoor terrace. From the people who make the best out of a bad situation. Just walking around in the barios solo at 3am among 100 year old buildings and a pretty girl leaning on one of the buildings pillars. Then she invites you in to the ground floor of this ancient building and its a normal home. Family pictures on the table, older tv, religious figures in paintings on the wall, couch with a throwover. Then she invites you to her room and talk leads to sex. She never asks for money but I know the game. An hour later I kiss my new friend adios as my pocket is 40cuc lighter. I now continue my leisurely stroll to my casa marveling at the old historical buildings that I pass.

BeersTerry

07-14-13, 02:31

Like BR's report.

Feel the same about the country. There is lots wrong with it and it can be difficult but something about it gets under your skin.

You need to do a little more homework as far as restaurants. It would seem that you are working on old info. I think there is current info on a Cuban magazine out of England.

Chotu

07-27-13, 16:16

you're last paragraph summed it up for me. I've been to the DR over 30 times, Thailand, and 30 other countries. The pros have always been for me with an occasional non-pro who doesn't take up to much time and work. Cuba fit the bill perfectly for me. My first couple girls were pros, one from "Casa de musica" and one from 23 calle. The sex was great but once I figured out that I could wait and take a shot at something special, that became my game. It became as simple as just stopping them and asking if they would like to meet for a beer later.

It was strange because the pros seemed terrified of the police but the two non-pros went on dates with me and walked around holding hands without a worry. The non-pros said the police never bothered them. I'm thinking that once a girl gets the prostituta label from the police then she is harrassed. In fact I later found out that one of the guys with the girl I met at beach was a cop.

Cuba is just the opposite of the DR. Cuba is clean the DR is dirty. Police in Cuba watch everything, DR police might be sleep under a tree. Cuba has tourists listed as untouchable, DR has scams against tourists. Driving is respectful in Cuba with no traffic, DR is crazy with rude drivers. Most people in Cuba smoke, few people in the DR smoke.

I hope Cuba stays as it is now, few Americans and mongers. Innocent and beautiful. Ancient and safe. Also I rate the Cubanas the best latin fuckers as a group. Passionate and conciderate. Every girl went for a second pop after a little break. Sweet sounds with kissing and tongues in ears. They seem to really appreciate sex. And I also appreciate their safety concerns regarding sex. Half did condom blowjobs unless I repeated. Once they became comfortable with me condoms were only for intercourse.

But even if you take sex out of the equation, Cuba is still a great place. From the ancient buildings to the ancient cars. From the little China town they have. From the live music at every outdoor terrace. From the people who make the best out of a bad situation. Just walking around in the barios solo at 3am among 100 year old buildings and a pretty girl leaning on one of the buildings pillars. Then she invites you in to the ground floor of this ancient building and its a normal home. Family pictures on the table, older tv, religious figures in paintings on the wall, couch with a throwover. Then she invites you to her room and talk leads to sex. She never asks for money but I know the game. An hour later I kiss my new friend adios as my pocket is 40cuc lighter. I now continue my leisurely stroll to my casa marveling at the old historical buildings that I pass.Surprise to read your post on Havana board, I have always read you post on SOSUA board. As always you have point out correctly the difference between DR and Cuba.

Robnbg1981

08-03-13, 08:14

I am not going to post Randy and Duniesky informations here but whoever need them just pm me and I will be more than happy to hook you up as long as you stay away from my chicks hahah.Hi Giotto Texan,

I loved your report and am very jealous of your great holiday. I am planning to travel to Cuba for about 4 weeks in October / November this year. I would be grateful if you would reach out and PM me. I would love to ask you some more questions.

Have a great weekend,

Robert

Combo

08-04-13, 01:14

Hi fellow hobbyists.

This is my first time posting on the Cuba board, though I'm often on the Colombia, DR, and Brasil boards. I haven't been to Cuba since 2001 and despite reading over the last several pages of the Havana and other Cuba threads, I still have a few questions I can't find answered. So I'm hoping someone can advise me.

First is Cubana airlines OK to take? Chicago to Cancun and then Cancun-Havana on Cubana airlines seems to be the simplest and least expensive option for me to arrive in Havana. I'm just a bit leery of Cubana. I can take Copa Air (great airline) from Panama City, but it would total $400-500 more.

Also, can anyone recommend guest-friendly high quality Casas (good A / C, safe box, hot water)? The only name I've come across on this site is Casa Alejandra. I'd probably prefer to be in Vedado.

Also, wondering if anyone knows a way for a US monger to get money there? I plan to bring cash, but I'd like to have a reserve option in case of emergency. I've heard there are cards one can prepay and withdraw from in Cuba if necessary."Transcard" I think is one of them. I think it might be run by Canadians. Maybe Paypal to someone in Cuba? Maybe get a CC from a Canadian bank?

Also, do any mongers out there go out and dance in Havana? I'm very into Afro-Latin dance and music. I'd love to be able to go to a club and dance for an hour or two before pulling the trigger. Is this realistic or will the chicas tell me to fuck off?

Thanks to all. BTW I plan on going the first 10-12 days of the New Year.

Combo

Mr Gogo

08-04-13, 02:51

Velasco

08-04-13, 07:53

First is Cubana airlines OK to take? Chicago to Cancun and then Cancun-Havana on Cubana airlines seems to be the simplest and least expensive option for me to arrive in Havana. I'm just a bit leery of Cubana. I can take Copa Air (great airline) from Panama City, but it would total $400-500 more.

Also, can anyone recommend guest-friendly high quality Casas (good A / C, safe box, hot water)?

Also, wondering if anyone knows a way for a US monger to get money there? I plan to bring cash, but I'd like to have a reserve option in case of emergency. I've heard there are cards one can prepay and withdraw from in Cuba if necessary."Transcard" I think is one of them. I think it might be run by Canadians. Maybe Paypal to someone in Cuba? Maybe get a CC from a Canadian bank?

ComboYes, Cubana is fine. As far as casas and other information is concerned, you will have to go beyond this site to other travel sites issues.

Yes, there are a few other options for cash. Duales. Com is another place you can use to transfer cash to a prepaid card you can use ONLY in Cuba. These services are all in located in Canada. For someone who lives in the US, it is better safe than sorry so take more than you need, as Cuba is not a good place to run out of cash. You will basically send them a cashier's check or a USPS money order weeks in advance, and you will then pick up your card either at the airport or at a local office in Havana. Bring your passport when you go for the pick up.

Also, make sure you do not arrive in Cuba with US currency, as they give a horrible exchange rate. You should be able to get Canadian $$, and don't wait until you get to Cancun, do it in Chicago. Good luck!

Combo

08-04-13, 20:56

Combo, it might be a good time to invest in a membership because you can't get PMs. Discretion is the word on this forum.I've sent and rec'd many PMs on this board. Maybe I'm not up to date.

Combo

08-05-13, 00:46

Yes, Cubana is fine. As far as casas and other information is concerned, you will have to go beyond this site to other travel sites issues.

Yes, there are a few other options for cash. Duales. Com is another place you can use to transfer cash to a prepaid card you can use ONLY in Cuba. These services are all in located in Canada. For someone who lives in the US, it is better safe than sorry so take more than you need, as Cuba is not a good place to run out of cash. You will basically send them a cashier's check or a USPS money order weeks in advance, and you will then pick up your card either at the airport or at a local office in Havana. Bring your passport when you go for the pick up.

Also, make sure you do not arrive in Cuba with US currency, as they give a horrible exchange rate. You should be able to get Canadian $$, and don't wait until you get to Cancun, do it in Chicago. Good luck!Thanks Velasco.

I'm going to check into Duales. I have a scary vision of losing my money and other documents (and God forbid my passport). It's worth the peace of mind to know you have a backup.

Rock Harders

08-05-13, 03:17

Mongers-

I can confirm from my trusted sources on the ground in Havana that Salon Rojo has indeed reopened and was only closed for repairs.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

Cuba Tourist

08-05-13, 04:19

Cubana was not fine for me. They told all the Americans they had no record of our tickets and made us wait in this tiny office for 2 hours and only let us on the plane 10 minutes before departure. It was like being treated as an undesirable. The airline is owned by the government and they act in a political manner. Also the planes are old and the technology is out of date. Still, it may be much cheaper. If possible, I would avoid them but it depends on how much difference in price-for $100, definitely avoid. For $400, go for it! Just my opinion.

BrasilSoccer0

08-05-13, 09:11

Can someone tell me how much CUC they got for a 100 USD? Last time I was getting 90-92 CUC per 100USD But that was 2yrs ago. This of course in the streets.

Also, I booked on Avianca from Medellin. They switched us in the last 10 minutes to Copa. When I got to Havana, guess what? NO LUGGAGE! I had to wait for THREE days.

I flew CUBANA to and from Toronto and had no problem. Much cheaper for sure.

Adinga

08-06-13, 02:57

I was converting $200 everyday and getting 174 cuc at Cohiba hotel.

On $100 it be around 87 cuc.

Charapa

08-06-13, 03:23

At Giotto Texan, I'm sending you a pm to request for your guides Randy and Duniesky informations.

To all members, If you know guys in Cuba that can help me get around and have a good time, please send me pm!

Thanks to all for your feedback on your trip, I will do the same when I get back.

My second trip to Cuba, the first one was disapointing because I was staying in resort in Varadero and yall know how that goes, no bringing chicks in or it will cost you arm and leg to bring one in. But as a real hunter I didn't loose hope, I just got on the streets and make friends, I managed to make two cool friends with good heart on my first trip, Randy and Duniesky. On my second trip last month I made arrangement with my friends Randy and Duni to find me Casa particular where I can bring chicks in and we can cook and eat togather. They did the job and this second trip I was getting fresh meat almost every night, I mean from 7 to 9 non pros, straight good girls. I think I am falling in love with this one chick they hook me up with.

Well my second trip I told Randy to take vacation for the two weeks that I will be there just to hang with me. Randy and Duni they work in a brick company in town outside Varadero and they make only equivalent $15 a month, so I told them I will pay them 20 each just to hang with me for two weeks, to hook me up with good chick and protect me on streets. I would pay for drinks everytime we went out, It was cheaper because I was sending them to get drinks and they will get them at locals price, also their entrance in many places was $2 or less. These guys will bring me back change of all transactions they did unlike other countries I visited. They will get taxi and we would pay $2 what would cost tourist $50. For example our trip from Varadero to Havana it only cost me 5 cuc for both of us and return was 30 cuc private taxi straight to Varadero. This deal came out way cheaper than if I would go by my self..

Charapa

08-06-13, 03:36

Hi you all,

I'm heading to Cuba next week and after reading a lot of posts I belive that the best way to have fun is to have a local friend / guide that can show me the city and places where to have good time with no-pros, so if you have any trusted contacts in Cuba that you can share with me I will appreciated.

Thanks and I will write my review as soon as I get back.

BrasilSoccer0

08-06-13, 19:29

Why would you exchange in the hotel. That's like throwing 13 % of your money.

Have you tried the black market. I always had the guys give me the money near a bank, they'll wait outside while I go inside the bank to verify the authenticity of the bills they give me, then I pay them.

I need to know what they are giving now or recently on the BM for 100USD and also for 100CAD. Any Canadians here can tell me what kind of exchange rate they are getting now? I usually fly to Toronto first.

I was converting $200 everyday and getting 174 cuc at Cohiba hotel.

On $100 it be around 87 cuc.

Bob Somewhat

08-07-13, 21:18

Why would you exchange in the hotel. That's like throwing 13 % of your money.

Have you tried the black market. I always had the guys give me the money near a bank, they'll wait outside while I go inside the bank to verify the authenticity of the bills they give me, then I pay them.

I need to know what they are giving now or recently on the BM for 100USD and also for 100CAD. Any Canadians here can tell me what kind of exchange rate they are getting now? I usually fly to Toronto first.The way I see it when I'm trading to the bank, I'm funding the government.

Funding government- all the things we love about Cuba- continuance of black market economy- ability to continue getting laid.

Socialismo o Muerte indeed.

RandyLahey

08-08-13, 22:05

I am not going to post Randy and Duniesky informations here but whoever need them just pm me and I will be more than happy to hook you up as long as you stay away from my chicks hahah.Giotto Texan: If you're still around and willing to share this information, I would be happy to gift you a membership so we can exchange PM's.

John

08-13-13, 08:52

Hi Guys.

I am going to Cuba this trip starting Aug 9 to Sep3. We are two friends looking to rent a deceent place with 2 bed rooms and a place where it has privatE IN DOOR AND OUT DOOR.

Appreciate your help..

Tanesh

08-31-13, 13:38

Has anyone been to these discotec. Can you please tell me what's the going rate for girls in these club? Let me know as I am going there second week of September.

Chaman

09-01-13, 01:57

There is a restaurant (or paladar) near downtown called Guajitiro.

The waiters are very sexy and attractive girls. This is may be the closest to a Hooters type of restaurant.

On my travels to Cuba the girls on this restaurant (IMHO) are far more beautiful than the ones you can find on.

Salon rojo, Casa de la Musica or la Cecila, Dos gardenias (that's were I have been) But the truth is that this girls are just working and are not looking for anything else,

I you buy a bottle of wine they can share a glass with you, but are not open to flirting, I guess.

One girl actually give me her phone but When I called she just give me lots of excuses.

My questions is have anyone been in this restaurant have been successful taking out with one of this girls?

Chaman

09-01-13, 02:00

Is better to exchange for Euros at your country, you will get a better exchange rate that other currencies.

Adinga

09-01-13, 05:05

I don't trust Cubans and can't run the risk of being ripped off.

Since I'm carrying cash I can't afford to make mistakes so I go to the Hotels. I've factored the currency conversion into the vacation cost.

HDston

09-01-13, 05:58

Don't waste your time and money in there. It's a tourist rip off joint.

There is a restaurant (or paladar) near downtown called Guajitiro.

The waiters are very sexy and attractive girls. This is may be the closest to a Hooters type of restaurant.

On my travels to Cuba the girls on this restaurant (IMHO) are far more beautiful than the ones you can find on.

Salon rojo, Casa de la Musica or la Cecila, Dos gardenias (that's were I have been) But the truth is that this girls are just working and are not looking for anything else,

I you buy a bottle of wine they can share a glass with you, but are not open to flirting, I guess.

One girl actually give me her phone but When I called she just give me lots of excuses.

My questions is have anyone been in this restaurant have been successful taking out with one of this girls?

Kalifornication

09-01-13, 13:25

The way I see it when I'm trading to the bank, I'm funding the government.

Funding government- all the things we love about Cuba- continuance of black market economy- ability to continue getting laid.

Socialismo o Muerte indeed.Bob. You comment makes you appear to be an idiot with an agenda.

Sammytheman

09-01-13, 23:12

El Cubanito

09-03-13, 21:10

Fellas getting laid in Cuba is very easy. There are so much other things to do than just get pussy. If you are going there just for pussy, it is better to stay home and bang local prostitutes. It will save you a lot of money. Oh BTW, not all girls are skanks. I have met quite a few diamonds. Just treat them with respect and you'll be rewarded :PI agree with you 1, 000, 000. If you are only going for the Bollo (some guys and that ok) and nothing else interest you then yes you will get bored and hate the place. But I you like meeting people the place is a gold mined.

Taboc

09-06-13, 05:44

Has anyone been to these discotec. Can you please tell me what's the going rate for girls in these club? Let me know as I am going there second week of September.I think the Panamerica disco is far off from Guanabo. It is primarily serving local cubans, or cubans living in the USA. When I went there they asked for a photo-I'd, which I did not have, so did not even bother and got out as most girls were coming with their boyfriends and very few singles when I was there for 30 minutes or so.

In Guanabo I was club hopping in four. The first one is on the right hand side as the road from the round about turns into Guanabo. It is a dining place and just during the weekends it becomes a disco. 99. 99% of the crowd was in the 18-24 age group, and they seem to have come with friends to have fun. I got a phone number from couple of girls, and called them next day but no luck. Further from this club if you go towards Guanabo, the Guanabo club is on the left hand side. It is full of chicas willing to come with you, and ask from 40 to 60, you can certainly bring them down. Some of the chicas are really good, most others are not bad either. If you wait till the time the club closes then the cost comes down quite a bit, keep in mind they are pros. Further on the road on the right side is a club called Tokyo. I did not find any good chicas here, infact when I went, it was mostly guys. Now, there is one more in Guanabo, it is not on the main street, I walked with a chica, so did not know the direction. It was full of locals, and had picked up a girl who is half Cuban half Russian for 35 bucks one pop.

Cubiche

09-07-13, 04:01

I think the Panamerica disco is far off from Guanabo. It is primarily serving local cubans, or cubans living in the USA. When I went there they asked for a photo-I'd, which I did not have, so did not even bother and got out as most girls were coming with their boyfriends and very few singles when I was there for 30 minutes or so.

In Guanabo I was club hopping in four. The first one is on the right hand side as the road from the round about turns into Guanabo. It is a dining place and just during the weekends it becomes a disco. 99. 99% of the crowd was in the 18-24 age group, and they seem to have come with friends to have fun. I got a phone number from couple of girls, and called them next day but no luck. Further from this club if you go towards Guanabo, the Guanabo club is on the left hand side. It is full of chicas willing to come with you, and ask from 40 to 60, you can certainly bring them down. Some of the chicas are really good, most others are not bad either. If you wait till the time the club closes then the cost comes down quite a bit, keep in mind they are pros. Further on the road on the right side is a club called Tokyo. I did not find any good chicas here, infact when I went, it was mostly guys. Now, there is one more in Guanabo, it is not on the main street, I walked with a chica, so did not know the direction. It was full of locals, and had picked up a girl who is half Cuban half Russian for 35 bucks one pop.The first club you described is called the Bim Bon. As you related it is where the young cubans go to party. It is not a place to seek chicas. The second place you mentioned is the Guanimar. That is were I have meet many of my interviews. Although the asking price is what you mentioned, the real price is 25-30 CUC. I have never paid more than that. The Tokyo is just what you described. The last club on your list is the Guanabo Club. It is located several blocks up the hill from the Childrens Park. It is also a place where I have also meet chicas. Pricing would be the same.

Taboc

09-08-13, 15:31

The first club you described is called the Bim Bon. As you related it is where the young cubans go to party. It is not a place to seek chicas. The second place you mentioned is the Guanimar. That is were I have meet many of my interviews. Although the asking price is what you mentioned, the real price is 25-30 CUC. I have never paid more than that. The Tokyo is just what you described. The last club on your list is the Guanabo Club. It is located several blocks up the hill from the Childrens Park. It is also a place where I have also meet chicas. Pricing would be the same.Good to know the names Cubiche. The way they were saying Bim Bon, I thought it was ping pong.

There was a fifth place in Guanabo. All I know is that it is in a residential neighborhood, other than me all the rest were cubans, the dance floor was not large. I don't think chicas come here looking for tourists as they seem to look normal and fresca. Do you remember the name of this place.

MrSoulo

09-10-13, 10:02

I think the Panamerica disco is far off from Guanabo. It is primarily serving local cubans, or cubans living in the USA. When I went there they asked for a photo-I'd, which I did not have, so did not even bother and got out as most girls were coming with their boyfriends and very few singles when I was there for 30 minutes or so.

In Guanabo I was club hopping in four. The first one is on the right hand side as the road from the round about turns into Guanabo. It is a dining place and just during the weekends it becomes a disco. 99. 99% of the crowd was in the 18-24 age group, and they seem to have come with friends to have fun. I got a phone number from couple of girls, and called them next day but no luck. Further from this club if you go towards Guanabo, the Guanabo club is on the left hand side. It is full of chicas willing to come with you, and ask from 40 to 60, you can certainly bring them down. Some of the chicas are really good, most others are not bad either. If you wait till the time the club closes then the cost comes down quite a bit, keep in mind they are pros. Further on the road on the right side is a club called Tokyo. I did not find any good chicas here, infact when I went, it was mostly guys. Now, there is one more in Guanabo, it is not on the main street, I walked with a chica, so did not know the direction. It was full of locals, and had picked up a girl who is half Cuban half Russian for 35 bucks one pop.Correction, the club "on the left hand side" you referred to is not called Guanabo Club. It's called Cabaret Guanimar. The club you walked to with the chica is most probably Guanabo Club, it's up the hill in a residential area.

Cabaret Guanimar and Guanabo Club are the 2 most popular spots to pick up chicas. 98% of them are down to "play for pay". If you go to Guanimar ask for Omar, he's a bouncer there and speaks fluent English. He'll very friendly and super honest and will sort you out with whatever you need. Please tip him properly as he will not ask for it but he would really appreciate it.

Uk4444

09-18-13, 15:10

ThirstyTravel

09-24-13, 01:02

Hi all,

Heading to Havana Thur. Sun this week, anyone else visiting or any advice?

Staying at the Hotel Saratoga (booked for me) by work.

I know this makes life more difficult. How much do you have to pay to get girls in?

Thanks for any help!Saratoga is a great hotel and a great location. I usually check my internet there.

I doubt you could get girls in. I might be wrong.

There is plenty of casa around there, just get a casa for your girls. Lucky you, you will have a great time.

Velasco

09-24-13, 07:28

I also think it highly unlikely that you will be able to bring women in there. It is a high end place where politicians, movie stars and such celebrities frequently stay when in Cuba. Then again, this is Cuba, and the sneaking in of a woman with the assistance of hotel security is always a possibility (She will have to leave by 6 am, I guess). Chances are pretty slim here, though. With the cash you will pay to bribe hotel security you might as well rent a casa nearby. Let us know how it goes, it will be interesting if you try. Good luck!

Big Dogie

09-24-13, 14:24

Non pro's would have no problem registering at the front desk, only after they get picked up for prostitution would they not what to register at the front desk. Most Cuban woman are DTF and like gifts of money and other stuff!

Have a great time.

B D

I also think it highly unlikely that you will be able to bring women in there. It is a high end place where politicians, movie stars and such celebrities frequently stay when in Cuba. Then again, this is Cuba, and the sneaking in of a woman with the assistance of hotel security is always a possibility (She will have to leave by 6 am, I guess). Chances are pretty slim here, though. With the cash you will pay to bribe hotel security you might as well rent a casa nearby. Let us know how it goes, it will be interesting if you try. Good luck!

Combo

09-24-13, 22:21

Excuse my ignorance, but how is the Hotel staff going to know whether she is a pro or non-pro? Just because a chica hasn't been picked up before doesn't mean she isn't a pro.

Non pro's would have no problem registering at the front desk, only after they get picked up for prostitution would they not what to register at the front desk. Most Cuban woman are DTF and like gifts of money and other stuff!

Have a great time.

B D

Big Dogie

09-24-13, 23:00

The Cuban government is a little on the controlling side. Hehehe. They review the registrations and this would be added to her file and next contact with the police she would have to pay the price.

Be well.

BD

Excuse my ignorance, but how is the Hotel staff going to know whether she is a pro or non-pro? Just because a chica hasn't been picked up before doesn't mean she isn't a pro.

Combo

09-25-13, 03:53

So wouldn't a non-pro be worried about having her name "filed" if she registered with you at the Hotel? And thus being under suspicion of being a prostitute?

The Cuban government is a little on the controlling side. Hehehe. They review the registrations and this would be added to her file and next contact with the police she would have to pay the price.

Be well.

B D

Sammytheman

09-25-13, 06:48

So wouldn't a non-pro be worried about having her name "filed" if she registered with you at the Hotel? And thus being under suspicion of being a prostitute?No. It is because a non-pro most likely doesn't fuck different people like rabbits and registering at government establishments all the time. Signing here and there is ok if they do it once in a while. Just as an example, I have brought normal girls to casas where they were not worried about registering their names.

Kalifornication

09-26-13, 21:08

I have registered with my "normal" girl for the past five years at hotels throughout Cuba as well as casa particulars. She has never been denied entry to a hotel and has shown no fear in registering from day one. Does this mean she is not a pro, I'd say yes. Does this mean I can trust her 100, I'd say no. Does this mean she is 100% faithful with no cuban on the side, I'd like to think she is faithful, but most would say probably not. But, the control does work to our advantage in this regard, if she is registering with you with no fear, then she is probably not a jinetera. You are likely with a proud cubana that does not wish to be viewed as a jiniterea and she has committed to you as a tourist, but no guarantees regarding a cuban bf. This is all great right!

No. It is because a non-pro most likely doesn't fuck different people like rabbits and registering at government establishments all the time. Signing here and there is ok if they do it once in a while. Just as an example, I have brought normal girls to casas where they were not worried about registering their names.

El Cubanito

09-27-13, 12:48

I have registered with my "normal" girl for the past five years at hotels throughout Cuba as well as casa particulars. She has never been denied entry to a hotel and has shown no fear in registering from day one. Does this mean she is not a pro, I'd say yes. Does this mean I can trust her 100, I'd say no. Does this mean she is 100% faithful with no cuban on the side, I'd like to think she is faithful, but most would say probably not. But, the control does work to our advantage in this regard, if she is registering with you with no fear, then she is probably not a jinetera. You are likely with a proud cubana that does not wish to be viewed as a jiniterea and she has committed to you as a tourist, but no guarantees regarding a cuban bf. This is all great right!Man, when are you goin to learn? You have a normal girl who is totally into you. I have not seen her in 5 years and people can change but I think she is very much into you.

Uk4444

10-03-13, 00:18

First thanks for all the advice on this forum. It was very helpful.

As I mentioned in an earlier post I stayed at the Hotel Saratoga which is one if not the best hotel in Havana. They have wireless internet in the hotel (free for guests) but it is soooo slow it is useless for anything other than email. I did try this site and it was blocked.

You can get girls into the Saratoga but it costs $50 for hotel security.

First night hit Salon Rojo. It was packed with girls at 1am on a Thur night. All seemed to be working and very aggressive, our table got surrounded by about 20 girls. Going rate was $100. $150 CUC.

Second night hit La Cecilia. This is about a 20min cab ride from the center of Havana. Started to wonder where we were going but got there in the end. Cost 10 CUC for the taxi but that seems to be the price anywhere you go. La Cecilia is an outdoor night club and again packed with girls (some I had seen from the night before). Long line to get in but I spoke with security and didn't need to wait in line. Great quality girls and big selection again. As soon as one started speaking to you it was difficult to shake them. Rates the same as Salon Rojo. Decided to try a Casa Particular (basically a private house) instead of paying security at the hotel. Cost $20. We literally went into someones house that rents a room out for this. Kind of strange, think I should have paid the extra $30 and went back to the hotel. Not a fan.

Third night was walking through the old district started talking to this girl and she invited me to her place for $50 which turned out to be a Casa Particular and cost another $20.

Now the warning: I am always very careful with what I carry and do, I never carry a wallet but I did have about $300 and an iPhone (for pictures. Can't use it for data) I had the phone in my pocket and money in a back pocket closed with a button. I never leave my clothes. Take them with me to the shower etc. And carefully put them on a chair in the room. The girl put a condom on the bed and started the action as things got more heated she looked for the condom and it was missing. She them proceeds to search for it looking on the bed on the floor, even lifting my clothes up and checking under them. Then goes and get another condom from the house. After the fun, I leave the house and am walk through old town and notice that my iPhone is now gone. Be very careful with your stuff.

Travel2040

10-03-13, 19:09

First thanks for all the advice on this forum. It was very helpful.

As I mentioned in an earlier post I stayed at the Hotel Saratoga which is one if not the best hotel in Havana. They have wireless internet in the hotel (free for guests) but it is soooo slow it is useless for anything other than email. I did try this site and it was blocked.

You can get girls into the Saratoga but it costs $50 for hotel security.

First night hit Salon Rojo. It was packed with girls at 1am on a Thur night. All seemed to be working and very aggressive, our table got surrounded by about 20 girls. Going rate was $100. $150 CUC.

Second night hit La Cecilia. This is about a 20min cab ride from the center of Havana. Started to wonder where we were going but got there in the end. Cost 10 CUC for the taxi but that seems to be the price anywhere you go. La Cecilia is an outdoor night club and again packed with girls (some I had seen from the night before). Long line to get in but I spoke with security and didn't need to wait in line. Great quality girls and big selection again. As soon as one started speaking to you it was difficult to shake them. Rates the same as Salon Rojo. Decided to try a Casa Particular (basically a private house) instead of paying security at the hotel. Cost $20...Even Havana is very safe you need to take some precautions. I always use a security pocket that I put inside on my clothes and I always rent a room with safety box. Therefore I never have problems with thefts. Cuba is a poor country and some people will steal if they get the opportunities. I was in Havana January this year and your first meeting with Salon Rojo can be a little bit chocking. 20-30 beautiful girls want to stay with you and if you don't are prepared it can be uncomfortable. It's interesting to see that Salon Rojo is re-opned. People told me that the place was closed during the summer period? I personally expericenced the girls at Salon Rojo to be a little bit hardcore but the quality is very good.

Kalifornication

10-03-13, 20:40

What is the point of this forum? Guys paying upwards of 500% of what most Cubans earn in a month for a moment of "strange" with a pro that treats you like the "john" you are. Why?

First thanks for all the advice on this forum. It was very helpful.

As I mentioned in an earlier post I stayed at the Hotel Saratoga which is one if not the best hotel in Havana. They have wireless internet in the hotel (free for guests) but it is soooo slow it is useless for anything other than email. I did try this site and it was blocked.

You can get girls into the Saratoga but it costs $50 for hotel security.

First night hit Salon Rojo. It was packed with girls at 1am on a Thur night. All seemed to be working and very aggressive, our table got surrounded by about 20 girls. Going rate was $100. $150 CUC.

Second night hit La Cecilia. This is about a 20min cab ride from the center of Havana. Started to wonder where we were going but got there in the end. Cost 10 CUC for the taxi but that seems to be the price anywhere you go. La Cecilia is an outdoor night club and again packed with girls (some I had seen from the night before). Long line to get in but I spoke with security and didn't need to wait in line. Great quality girls and big selection again. As soon as one started speaking to you it was difficult to shake them. Rates the same as Salon Rojo. Decided to try a Casa Particular (basically a private house) instead of paying security at the hotel. Cost $20. We literally went into someones house that rents a room out for this. Kind of strange, think I should have paid the extra $30 and went back to the hotel. Not a fan.

Third night was walking through the old district started talking to this girl and she invited me to her place for $50 which turned out to be a Casa Particular and cost another $20.

Now the warning: I am always very careful with what I carry and do, I never carry a wallet but I did have about $300 and an iPhone (for pictures. Can't use it for data) I had the phone in my pocket and money in a back pocket closed with a button. I never leave my clothes. Take them with me to the shower etc. And carefully put them on a chair in the room. The girl put a condom on the bed and started the action as things got more heated she looked for the condom and it was missing. She them proceeds to search for it looking on the bed on the floor, even lifting my clothes up and checking under them. Then goes and get another condom from the house. After the fun, I leave the house and am walk through old town and notice that my iPhone is now gone. Be very careful with your stuff.

The Dirty Pirate

10-04-13, 00:55

What is the point of this forum? Guys paying upwards of 500% of what most Cubans earn in a month for a moment of "strange" with a pro that treats you like the "john" you are. Why?Who pissed in your Wheaties?

Kalifornication

10-04-13, 03:01

Who pissed in your Wheaties?UK444 did, is it not clear he pissed in our Wheaties? LOL

Point is this, do we overpay just because we can? Is this a good idea? Seems absurd. My comment was not personal to UK444, it was meant to be a general comment.

Sammytheman

10-04-13, 04:58

Combo

10-04-13, 05:06

UK444 did, is it not clear he pissed in our Wheaties? LOL.

Point is this, do we overpay just because we can? Is this a good idea? Seems absurd. My comment was not personal to UK444, it was meant to be a general comment.I agree with your sentiments. It seems that one of the biggest reasons to read this board is to find out what the pricing structure is, which (as you mentioned) typically correlates with what a native Cuban, Dominican, Colombian, et al can earn on average. It is indeed ridiculous for a guy who has read this site to travel somewhere and throw outsized sums of money at the women. In a country as poor as Cuba, giving a women $100-150 is asking for trouble. Once you've done that, she knows you're an fool and her male friends will soon know also.

Combo

10-04-13, 05:10

I have to agree with Kalifornication. People paying more money than they should are fuckin up the punani market! Then again, if you are old fat and / or ugly then I guess you can't really haggle much.They're not only fucking up the market, they are increasing their chances of finding trouble. If a chica knows you're foolish enough to pay way over market, she will logically conclude you're an easy mark to be robbed or scammed.

BrasilSoccer0

10-04-13, 07:40

Seems like Kalifornication took economics 101 like the majority of us.

Few, nonetheless, either failed or never attempted the class!

Here is a short abstract of how Eco-101 relates to paying for sex in Cuba:

-Supply outnumbers demand: More pussy than tourists means price falls to adjusts for demand shortage.

-Average professional monthly salary in market where sex is sold is around $20 CUC: more tempting for a potential service provider to happily take a month's worth of pay for a day's work and even half a month's just to get by.

-Illegal market to trade sex: Service providers are under pressure to behave well while in customer dwelling or could face jail time. If didn't perform according to agreement means less pay.

-Two tier currency system: Locals get paid in the weaker currency and you (the customer) are their only source for the desirable CUC.

Service providers are substantially isolated from the rest of the world and grew up with socialist values: American pop culture hasn't polluted the goods. Women are easily content with what you give them.

UK444, all Kalifornication and the rest of us trying to say is that in Cuba it is a buyer's market. Meaning, we the customers not only do we set the price but we also set the terms, duration and frequency of service provided.

And it doesn't matter if you are old, fat, or bold headed, non of that bullshit should affect the price in Cuba, maybe in our distorted western society. Just be a gentleman, but a firm one.

What you pay should be relative and proportionate within the economy of that market.

Uk4444

10-04-13, 17:36

I have to agree with everything everyone said here. Except I'm not fat or ugly. I did my research on market prices and most of the posts seem to show at the clubs this was the price.

Yes on the streets you can get cheaper and I am sure if you want to wait until the clubs are closing you can get a better deal but I have to work the next day.

But I fully agree with the sentiment. It is over priced for the market.

One more warning. When leaving Salon Rojo outside you get surrounded by loads of taxi drivers trying to take you to their cars, be very careful of you stuff, a friend of mine had his watch taken off his wrist in the craziness. Also we all know to fix the cost of the ride before you are getting in, I went in a taxi with 3 other and the driver when we arrived tried to charge the price per person which we refused to pay.

Questner

10-05-13, 03:10

The reality of soliciting a beautiful chica at midnight may be very challenging if one is on short trip and does not use a pool of local connections. The supply is very limited and number of venues is very scarce. There is also a competition with few Cubans, Italians, Spaniards, Mexicans etc. Who speak the dialect, now the customs, know how to dance and treat a latina and are not cheapskates. There is a steep overhead as girls share their income with boyfriends, need to pay entry fees, higher a reliable drivers, doll up, pay doctors, pay police, save money for a major fuck up where they need to bribe out their way, they pay for powder, send money to province etc. Etc. Forget the salary or exchange rate. Try to buy a nice house in Miramar and see how the prices are close to a million in divisa. I have seen few beauties who ask for a hundred but worth a thousand in Europe.

Tanesh

10-05-13, 15:28

From here, I booked a one bedroom private apartment in Vedado for just $20 a day. Very nice and close to everything. I did not go the tourist nightclub. I usually pick the girl I like that walk on the street and take her to some local nightclub in Vedado. Usually they ask for $50 and settle for $40 all night. Except on my last night, I went to Dos Gardenais where beer and cuba libre both are 2cuc. Lots of eye candies in this place and this place only close at 6 in the morning. I waited until I get the right mood to click in and this was around 2am this nice black girl started to whine on me and I did not say anything and brought her a beer for her. All of the sudden, her white friend took her phone and type 70 and told for both of us. I was bit of shock and to verify I ask them 35 and 35 and she said yes. That time I was in heaven brought them drink and we were dancing crazy on the floor. I think we were the center of attraction that night. Yeah once my mood click in, I like to dance crazy with the girls. Later I took them to my casa and banged them. They left only 9 in the morning and that was my deal. Altogether I had so much fun in his trip and I never paid any girls more than 40cuc.

Thank you guys all the info and It really help me.

Tips: Please, before you bring your girl, lock up all your staff including all your toilet stuff. They will take your soap, paste and shampoo. Also have some attitude in bed so will enjoy more like "do it or leave" attitude. Never handed in the money first because you are pay it and make sure your money is worth it. Remember they are not your girlfriend when you pay them money.

Oh I landed in Varadero airport and took a cab to / from Havana cost 100cuc both ways. Is this cheap or expensive?

Velasco

10-05-13, 23:13

Uk444, thanks for reporting. I had guessed that the price for bringing a chica into the Saratoga was steep, and that $50 CUC confirmed it. Did you pay that to the same guy on multiple nights or difference nights?

Also, people need to stop with going overboard with their criticism and nitpicking. Uk444 read the forum, asked some questions in advance and had a great time in Cuba (iPhone theft notwithstanding). He even took the trouble to come back and report, which we all know a lot of people who read this forum don't bother to do.

Yet it seems there are some self appointed Cuba experts here who keep on jumping on posters, criticizing their experiences and insulting them as old, fat and ugly. We went through this whole exercise a few months ago (June 2013) when I posted reports on my nights in Havana, and some other posters defended me then. A few more thoughts from me.

-The man said he had to work, and could not spend a lot of time hunting and bargaining. Furthermore, if his work put him up at the Hotel Saratoga then good for him (And someone still saw it fit to lecture uk444 on economics 101?).

- He overpaid and admitted it, no need to pile on.

-There are some travelers who are NOT in a competition to see who fucks the most Cubanas for the least amount of cash.

-There is no one size fits all experience in Cuba. So enough with the complaints about overpaying, economics 101, fucking up the market etc.

Mr Gogo

10-06-13, 01:07

Guys have a point about guys over-paying and fucking up the market, but the poster was honest enough to admit his mistakes. For this he gets a pass from me.

I think finding the correct casa particulares is the key to success. Luckily I have the perfect one for me. When I was staying at the Iglatera my first visit, my girl and me spent the afternoon going around looking at places in Havana el centro. They are easy to spot because they have signs out front. A few had private entrances that I was looking for. I actually had an older gentleman run up to me saying his sister had a private apartment 5 minutes away. It was perfect. Private entrance, private bath, phone, ac, kitchen and entertainment system. It was 30 per night. I called two days before my second trip and she was thrilled that I was coming.

Now here is the fun part. Sometimes I would sit outside on the street sipping a krystal beer, people watching. Little did I know that I was the one being watched. The first couple days I had my girl with me all time until I tired of her. When I told her I needed some space and I would call her in a few days, she said "you don't even see all these vultures circling and started crying". I had no idea until later that night.

I went out alone to Calle 23, then Duberville, and finished at Casa de Musica. Guys if you don't know these spots you should. Anyway as I turn the street to my casa at 2am I see three pretty girls sitting on their stoop talking. One calls me over and asks if I have a cigarette, I say no. Then she starts small talk. She asks if I want company, and I say no. My stupid ass still thinks that I'm being sneaky and no one knows me or where I'm staying. I go home and get in bed. After 10 minutes my conscious made me get up and go back outside. No one was there but one little kid I saw playing soccer in the street earlier. As I come out he leaves the stoop and dashes in the building as I look up the street. One minute later the girl comes out.

This became a regular routine for the next three nights. I would spend the day with my girl and go out alone every night. When I came home every night she was on her stoop waiting.

Then the owner of the casa started having this fine 19yo hanging out. She was a university student. She was squeezed into the rotation as my main girl was demoted. Now I'm catching on. As I walk around the neighborhood I know people are watching even though they don't stare. When I would sit out front sipping my beer a steady stream of beautiful girls would walk by as if they had been waiting for me to come out.

My point is once you get your own casa, people will notice you. Pussy will be easily available. As I look back after each trip I always reflect on all the pussy I couldn't get to in Cuba. I always leave Cuba feeling that its so much that I missed out on even though I had a ball in Cuba.

Kalifornication

10-06-13, 01:23

The Dirty Pirate

10-07-13, 21:43

Your missing the point Velasco, this is not about any sort of competition.You see people posting the same things in every country and I happen to live in a mongering destination as well. One thing I have learned is what one man pays never effects what I pay.

Kalifornication

10-08-13, 02:28

You see people posting the same things in every country and I happen to live in a mongering destination as well. One thing I have learned is what one man pays never effects what I pay.Without conceding my point, have a wonderful day.

Start123

10-10-13, 01:10

You didn't mention any price points. Would be especially useful for mongers who pay 75CUC per bang! I had a similar situation, stayed long term in Havana vieja. First week, my casa owner would hook me up with "friends". But they would be asking 75- 100 CUC. I guess I looked like a lost tourist. After I threw them, one actually naked from my bed, I got sort of bad reputation. Neverthe ess, I found several neighborhood girls who were happy with 20 cuc! The casa owner was pissed as I was bringing 2 girls a day and bang them and he got no cut from them!

Cuba is all about hustlers trying to get as much money as they can from you! For a communist country it's unacceptable! Where are their values? Acting like capitalist pigs.

Guys have a point about guys over-paying and fucking up the market, but the poster was honest enough to admit his mistakes. For this he gets a pass from me.

I think finding the correct casa particulares is the key to success. Luckily I have the perfect one for me. When I was staying at the Iglatera my first visit, my girl and me spent the afternoon going around looking at places in Havana el centro. They are easy to spot because they have signs out front. A few had private entrances that I was looking for. I actually had an older gentleman run up to me saying his sister had a private apartment 5 minutes away. It was perfect. Private entrance, private bath, phone, ac, kitchen and entertainment system. It was 30 per night. I called two days before my second trip and she was thrilled that I was coming.

Now here is the fun part. Sometimes I would sit outside on the street sipping a krystal beer, people watching. Little did I know that I was the one being watched. The first couple days I had my girl with me all time until I tired of her. When I told her I needed some space and I would call her in a few days, she said "you don't even see all these vultures circling and started crying". I had no idea until later that night.

I went out alone to Calle 23, then Duberville, and finished at Casa de Musica. Guys if you don't know these spots you should. Anyway as I turn the street to my casa at 2am I see three pretty girls sitting on their stoop talking. One calls me over and asks if I have a cigarette, I say no. Then she starts small talk. She asks if I want company, and I say no. My stupid ass still thinks that I'm being sneaky and no one knows me or where I'm staying. I go home and get in bed. After 10 minutes my conscious made me get up and go back outside. No one was there but one little kid I saw playing soccer in the street earlier. As I come out he leaves the stoop and dashes in the building as I look up the street. One minute later the girl comes out.

This became a regular routine for the next three nights. I would spend the day with my girl and go out alone every night. When I came home every night she was on her stoop waiting.

Then the owner of the casa started having this fine 19yo hanging out. She was a university student. She was squeezed into the rotation as my main girl was demoted. Now I'm catching on. As I walk around the neighborhood I know people are watching even though they don't stare. When I would sit out front sipping my beer a steady stream of beautiful girls would walk by as if they had been waiting for me to come out.

My point is once you get your own casa, people will notice you. Pussy will be easily available. As I look back after each trip I always reflect on all the pussy I couldn't get to in Cuba. I always leave Cuba feeling that its so much that I missed out on even though I had a ball in Cuba.

Mr Gogo

10-10-13, 05:58

HelpRules

10-10-13, 21:48

HelpRules

10-10-13, 22:36

Mr Gogo

10-11-13, 00:50

Question to the Cuba experts. I am considering going to Cuba from Mexico for the first time. I have read some of the past posts to try to catch up, and am confused about something. I read some posts that said Cuba isn't as good as it was 5 or 10 years ago. Why is this. It's still a socialist country, and it hasn't been americanized yet. It's still run by a Castro, so can someone explain why it changed, and what the biggest difference is. Brazil is too far and too expensive. Mexico is too much of a hustle and americanized, but still decent for a quick trip. Cuba seems to be the next best / new option for me, when you consider I am looking for something close, hot latin girls, and inexpensive that isn't americanized. I am assuming Cuba fits that description best for now. Any advice would be good. From what I read. Stay away from hotels and get a casa. What exactly is a casa. Is it a house that rents out rooms?Good luck. Guys don't share much info here unless you are in their click. My advise would be to go back a few pages for info. Consider your first trip your dry run. It will be filled with learning experiences to help you grow for future trips.

Wet Nose

10-11-13, 19:19

Question to the Cuba experts. I am considering going to Cuba from Mexico for the first time. I have read some of the past posts to try to catch up, and am confused about something. I read some posts that said Cuba isn't as good as it was 5 or 10 years ago. Why is this. It's still a socialist country, and it hasn't been americanized yet. It's still run by a Castro, so can someone explain why it changed, and what the biggest difference is. Brazil is too far and too expensive. Mexico is too much of a hustle and americanized, but still decent for a quick trip. Cuba seems to be the next best / new option for me, when you consider I am looking for something close, hot latin girls, and inexpensive that isn't americanized. I am assuming Cuba fits that description best for now. Any advice would be good. From what I read. Stay away from hotels and get a casa. What exactly is a casa. Is it a house that rents out rooms?Yes, a casa is a house owned by a local Cuban, who rents out spare rooms. Meals are usually not included but good value. Google up casa particulars. If you need one, just PM me and I can give you the phone number of one.

As to why Cuba is not as good as it was 5 or 10 years ago. Probably no one can tell you. The scene in Cuba can change from week to week, depending on the whims of the local communist committee. I've had 1 or 2 trips (out of 12) which were a total bust, but others which were awesome. Americans have nothing to do with it.

Velasco

10-12-13, 08:01

Finnish Fucker

10-12-13, 20:06

Those are the most incredible tits I have ever seen. What did those girls in the pictures cost you in dolars. Why can't you talk to girls on the beach. How can the cops stop you for hanging out with girls. I don't understand. I didn't know Cuba was a nanny state.In Cuba you can find good natural tits :cool: The girls costed me around 100$ each if I remember right. Quality has it's price.

I found out that all the prostitutes were afraid of police. Every time I took a girl back to my casa we had to take separate taxis. Not an issue for me but anyway it felt a bit strange.

In Cuba there was not the same relaxed atmosphere like in Colombia or Brazil where you can hang out with the birds on the beach drinking beer etc.

Anyway go there and have fun! If you have any other questions send me a PM.

-Kepp

HelpRules

10-12-13, 21:51

Questner

10-13-13, 03:45

I just find it so odd that you can't hang with girls on the beach or ride in a taxi with a girl or the cops will arrest her because he assumes she is a prostitute. That is so insane, even for a socialist country. I have a god damn daddy watching over me on vacation. What if I go to the mall. Can I hit on girls there w / o the cops looking to arrest her.There are almost no 'malls' in Cuba in known sense. No fun hanging in ones on Prado or Central Havana.

Cops will detain a girl if she was known to police. While inside a taxi cops won't do anything. However the game is on when she steps out of the car. Moon guide is very good. For the feeling of what to expect see this movie preferably in Spanish: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1797348/?ref_=nv_sr_1

'7 Dias en la Habana' (2012)

On what has changed: It is like a circle of life, first comes the disease, then attempts to cure it, then coma, then death, horrible funeral on the outskirts, division of property, grief, denial, monument on the grave, death taxes, oblivion, etc. You decide where is Cuba now on her way with socialism, but I'll tell you, Cubans are fed up with the experiment long long time ago. That what has changed, there is no more hope in the regime.

Mr Gogo

10-13-13, 05:21

There are almost no 'malls' in Cuba in known sense. No fun hanging in ones on Prado or Central Havana.

Cops will detain a girl if she was known to police. While inside a taxi cops won't do anything. However the game is on when she steps out of the car. Moon guide is very good. For the feeling of what to expect see this movie preferably in Spanish:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1797348/?ref_=nv_sr_1

'7 Dias en la Habana' (2012)

On what has changed: It is like a circle of life, first comes the disease, then attempts to cure it, then coma, then death, horrible funeral on the outskirts, division of property, grief, denial, monument on the grave, death taxes, oblivion, etc. You decide where is Cuba now on her way with socialism, but I'll tell you, Cubans are fed up with the experiment long long time ago. That what has changed, there is no more hope in the regime.Agreed. But the hope is in the strength of the people. I have been to other countries where the people are oppressed, and they have given up. But the Cubans know the regime is coming to an end eventually, and there in is the strength.

You have to put this into perspective. Everything centers around one person, Fidel. The past American governments hate Fidel. The south Florida Cubans hate Fidel. Even the people in Cuba wait for a world without El Presidente. Once this obstacle is not there everything changes. Now the question is does it change for the better with American involvement? I won't go deep into this topic, but I will say this; The Cuban people are probably the strongest group I have seen in dealing with an oppressed society.

Kalifornication

10-13-13, 17:09

Words from the Petite bourgeoisie. You guys have no idea how life is on the ground in Cuba. It's about as diverse, in terms of opinions, as elsewhere. There are those that are fed up, those that are content and many in the middle. For the record, they don't hate Fidel. No matter how much they may say so, they don't. In any case, Fidel is effectively off the scene and, even assuming he is, Cuba is changing and changing rapidly. They will not lose their socialism, but it will indeed evolve. About girls being harassed, my girl has never been harassed not once in the past 5 years.

Agreed. But the hope is in the strength of the people. I have been to other countries where the people are oppressed, and they have given up. But the Cubans know the regime is coming to an end eventually, and there in is the strength.

You have to put this into perspective. Everything centers around one person, Fidel. The past American governments hate Fidel. The south Florida Cubans hate Fidel. Even the people in Cuba wait for a world without El Presidente. Once this obstacle is not there everything changes. Now the question is does it change for the better with American involvement? I won't go deep into this topic, but I will say this; The Cuban people are probably the strongest group I have seen in dealing with an oppressed society.

Mr Gogo

10-13-13, 18:03

Words from the Petite bourgeoisie. You guys have no idea how life is on the ground in Cuba. It's about as diverse, in terms of opinions, as elsewhere. There are those that are fed up, those that are content and many in the middle. For the record, they don't hate Fidel. No matter how much they may say so, they don't. In any case, Fidel is effectively off the scene and, even assuming he is, Cuba is changing and changing rapidly. They will not lose their socialism, but it will indeed evolve. About girls being harassed, my girl has never been harassed not once in the past 5 years.I don't hang with the Miramar (sp) crowd or the wealthy. My info comes from the street. You may in fact be correct, but I have no interest in developing an opinion about oppression from people of privilege.

I'm not here to get into the political situation in Cuba, people will find out when they go. But if you want to say that the people are lying in their opinions about Fidel to me, thats cool I guess. But in my post I never said the people in Cuba hate Fidel. I said past American governments and the South Florida Cubans hate Fidel.

HelpRules

10-13-13, 19:03

Glad there are quite a few new people seeking information and planning to visit Cuba. A lot of the information you are looking for is pretty simple, basic stuff that you can get elsewhere. There are several places where you can get information, beginning with travel books and travel sites like Moon books, Frommer's etc. I think you should spend a little time perusing those places as you are seeking information that is necessary for ALL travelers (Accommodation, travel between cities, currency, food etc).

Yes, things have changed in the last 5 years, but Cuba is still worth a trip. I think once you have the foundation down I think you will be fine, especially since you have been to other places in Latin America. Just read as much of this forum as possible, take a few notes, have fun and report back. Good luck!I don't think Frommers is going to give me the mongering perspective on the best lodging. Thats why I posted here. I want to know what the best casas are near the most popular beach for a cheap price that allows girls w / o a extra charge. I'm assuming that can be answered here way better than Frommers or some travel book. It would be nice to be close to the beach, so I can just walk to the beach from my room, check out the girls in their bikinis, be hit on by the semi and pro hookers, and then take them back to my casa a couple blocks away. Thats what Rio was like back in the day, but it has really dried up there and is too expensive. Is this plan good, or do I have Cuba all wrong. If I can meet girls this way when I arrive, I can do a longer term date with the girls I like, and let them show me around Cuba for the best clubs and restaurants. It would shorten my learning curve this way.

HelpRules

10-13-13, 23:43

1) I read some more reports, and the more recent reports of distinction, which werent that many in the last 5 years, so let me know if I have this about right. There are 2 main clubs where all the girls are hookers, like HELP in Rio. I forgot the names of the clubs. The girls go for about 60 to 100 cuc, which if I am right, is about 70 to 110 dollars, since you don't get 1 to 1 like xe. Com shows. Some of the guys say don't pay more than 25 dollars for a girl. Is this doable in the main 2 takeout clubs. I only bang girls in the 8 to 10 range. I like to pay the going rate. I never pay more and I usually don't care about haggling for much less, but if the going rate is 25 dollars, I would rather pay that, and have a hell of a lot of fun, but I have a feeling it's going to be 50 to 70 american dollars a pop at the nice clubs. You never know what these girls look like that are 25 dollars. I understand that doctors make like 50 dollars a month, but guys are suckers for hot girls with DD, so doctor's salaries salary aren't material when a hot chick is staring you in the face. Although, If I could get 9 and 10's for 50 dollars a night with no hassle, I would have so much fun. It would be like Brazil all over.

2) If you want girls for cheaper, you can get them walking around the streets, and that price will depend on your negotiating skills I assume. Stay at a casa, so you don't have to pay the guard to get the girl up. Are there any hotels where there are no extra charges for girls. I really like staying at hotels. Its safer and I can put my money in the safe when the girl is in the room. I got the impression from reading the reports that just about all the girls walking around are for sale, since they have plenty of free time, and their major needs are met by the government.

3) There are no strip clubs from what I read. Is this correct. That sucks. I really like seeing the body w / o all the clothes that can hide alot. Although, the reports show that these girls all have great bodies. I guess all that walking and no fast food will do that for you.

Please comment on my summary of Cuba. I want to go before it opens up to capitalism, because those rich guys from miami and the northeast are going to ruin it for us all. How much do you think the girls will be charging when Cuba becomes a open country again. Any estimates.

Kalifornication

10-14-13, 02:09

Forgive me, my ADHD may have gotten the better of me. I too don't hang with the elites of Cuba, I. 90 percent of the time, live with them in their barrios. I love the Cuban people.

I don't hang with the Miramar (sp) crowd or the wealthy. My info comes from the street. You may in fact be correct, but I have no interest in developing an opinion about oppression from people of privilege.

I'm not here to get into the political situation in Cuba, people will find out when they go. But if you want to say that the people are lying in their opinions about Fidel to me, thats cool I guess. But in my post I never said the people in Cuba hate Fidel. I said past American governments and the South Florida Cubans hate Fidel.

Combo

10-14-13, 06:00

I don't think Frommers is going to give me the mongering perspective on the best lodging. Thats why I posted here. I want to know what the best casas are near the most popular beach for a cheap price that allows girls w / o a extra charge. I'm assuming that can be answered here way better than Frommers or some travel book. It would be nice to be close to the beach, so I can just walk to the beach from my room, check out the girls in their bikinis, be hit on by the semi and pro hookers, and then take them back to my casa a couple blocks away. Thats what Rio was like back in the day, but it has really dried up there and is too expensive. Is this plan good, or do I have Cuba all wrong. If I can meet girls this way when I arrive, I can do a longer term date with the girls I like, and let them show me around Cuba for the best clubs and restaurants. It would shorten my learning curve this way.If you're trying to fine a place that's like "Rio back in the day," you're likely to be disappointed. The only place that compares IMO is maybe Thailand. You probably need to adjust your expectations whether it be in Cuba, Colombia, or the DR.

Cuba's glory days for mongering were back in the 90s. It was a free-for-all with no police concern with chica-tourist interaction. I was lucky enough to go in '99. I went again in '01 after the early crackdowns began and it was noticeably worse. I am going to try it again in January 2014. However, my trip is as much about music and dance as it is about chicas. I would not go back to Cuba if I was only interested in pussy. Colombia or the DR make alot more sense in that regard.

HelpRules

10-14-13, 08:50

If you're trying to fine a place that's like "Rio back in the day," you're likely to be disappointed. The only place that compares IMO is maybe Thailand. You probably need to adjust your expectations whether it be in Cuba, Colombia, or the DR.

Cuba's glory days for mongering were back in the 90s. It was a free-for-all with no police concern with chica-tourist interaction. I was lucky enough to go in '99. I went again in '01 after the early crackdowns began and it was noticeably worse. I am going to try it again in January 2014. However, my trip is as much about music and dance as it is about chicas. I would not go back to Cuba if I was only interested in pussy. Colombia or the DR make alot more sense in that regard.Why wouldn't you go back just for the pussy. Don't you find a girl and take her to listen to the music and dance. Is the music that good that I would want to listen to it w / o hooking up at the same time. If the police are a problem, why not get a casa next to the best take out joint, and just tell the girl to walk over or take a quick cab ride by herself.

As far as Colombia, been there, but the clubs aren't great. The girls are hardcore and hot, but not much to do there. I will go back one day, but I assume there are more things to do in Cuba during the dead time, and from what I gather the cuban girls are not as hardcore.

Mr Gogo

10-14-13, 17:21

Why wouldn't you go back just for the pussy. Don't you find a girl and take her to listen to the music and dance. Is the music that good that I would want to listen to it w / o hooking up at the same time. If the police are a problem, why not get a casa next to the best take out joint, and just tell the girl to walk over or take a quick cab ride by herself.

As far as Colombia, been there, but the clubs aren't great. The girls are hardcore and hot, but not much to do there. I will go back one day, but I assume there are more things to do in Cuba during the dead time, and from what I gather the cuban girls are not as hardcore.The point he was trying to make is that Cuba is about more than just pussy. If you go for just pussy then you are cheating yourself out of a wonderful experience. There is no other place like Cuba on this earth. Its like its being preserved for a final look for those interested.

Its good music everywhere, and its sung with passion. There is no guaranteed financial reward, they sing fir the love of Cuban music. From the jazz at la Zorra why el Cuervo to Casa de Musica. From the beach to guys singing on the Malecon. Its everywhere.

From the ancient buildings that are untouched over the last 100 years to the Spanish history that still stands.

From the people who make the best of a bad situation. To the beautiful women who still make love with passion. To the romantic air that makes Cubans still believe in romance.

I really am starting to dislike guys that go there exclusively to exploit the island for its pretty women who fuck for less. Respect the island and the people and you will receive all the rewards the island has to offer. Go there looking for the next Rio fuck fest and the people will see through your deception.

Velasco

10-14-13, 23:23

This is a nice discussion. If you have been to Mexico, Colombia and other places then you will do fine in Cuba. The reason why I directed you elsewhere is because you asked the question "What is a casa," something that would be best answered outside of this site. As far as space to hook up, there would be at least 2 forms of casas, with plenty of grey area.

1- A legal, registered casa that is guest friendly, meaning they would allow you to bring a Cubana into the place and let her spend the night with you after she registers. The problem with this is that they MAY NOT allow another woman for the duration of time that you are staying there, so if she is no good after your first session then it complicates things for you. Also, some Cubanas may be unwilling to share their information, with Cuba being a police state and all. This will be especially the case of the chica has been busted for jineterismo. You will definitely run into this problem if you are in hotels. Some casa owners may just want to hold onto the woman's I'd and not register her, it all depends. Also, you may be in one city where you will have no problem registering your chica, and then have trouble doing the same thing in the next city.

2- An illegal casa, which basically means someone renting out a room for hookups. This is not a bad idea for daytime quickies. I have even spent nights at such casas, the downside being you have to leave at around 6 am. The going rate for overnighting at illegal casas seems to be no more than $15 CUC. Any Cuban will have no trouble finding such a place.

Anyway, moving on. Like Wet Nose said, things in Cuba change from week to week, and you may just have the misfortune of arriving at the beginning of a crackdown on jineterismo. A lot of stuff is possible in Cuba, it just depends.

RE: Reports of distinction. A lot of people, yours truly included, do not even bother to take that extra step to make sure one's report is included in the "Reports of distinction" section. So you may have to do more reading.

There are no strip clubs in Cuba. I recall a post about a high end restaurant that had opened with waitresses in short, tight, cleavage bearing outfits, but the girls were not available for takeout. It seems that pretty much every woman in Cuba is wearing something that is too short, too tight and shows too much cleavage anyway.

Mr. Gogo and Combo are absolutely right, go for more than just hooking up with Cubanas. I have met a few chaps that were there just for the pussy, and it was just weird talking to them. One sat next to me on the Nassau- Havana flight once, and could not name a single museum he had been to in 6 trips to Cuba. There is amazing history, architecture, music etc. Exploring the other side of Cuba also gives you an opportunity to meet with regular, girl-next-door types that you will not meet in the clubs. In one of your earlier posts, you talked of the possibility of a "Long term date" with a Cubana who would show you around the best clubs and restaurants. It is highly unlikely that you will meet this kind of Cubana at Salon Rojo or Casa de la Musica.

I have met random Cubanas that were working as waitresses, others were in a queue for ice cream, others I stopped to ask for directions to a museum or plaza. One of my future missions is to hook up with a Cuban museum guide, with their sexy fishnet pantyhose and navy blue miniskirts.

Taboc

10-15-13, 02:37

Just came back today from a 10 day trip, and I will post the report in the following days.

There are people who are going to defend the system, and there are people who are going to say it is malo mal.

In my simple logic this is how it works.

If someones family was doing well under Batista, someone is from a city, someone has relatives in Miami, someone is closer to a tourist then that someone is going to say bad things about the system (not Fidel)

If someone was poor and exploited by Batista and his cronies, someone is from a small town / farm then that someone either does not have an opinion or not a bad opinion about the system.

A fellow working hard in the field, another fellow construction employee, the lady who sells vegetables did not bad mouth the system to me, even when I gave them an option to do so in a very confidential way.

The lazy fellow, driving around a beaten up taxi funded by his family in Miami, and the chica who owns 12 pairs (no typo) of footwear and hangs around with tourists saying she is poor, said to me it is bad.

It is for Cubans to say what they want, I have no right to say what is good for them. Let time decide.

HelpRules

10-15-13, 03:59

this is a nice discussion. if you have been to mexico, colombia and other places then you will do fine in cuba. the reason why i directed you elsewhere is because you asked the question "what is a casa," something that would be best answered outside of this site. as far as space to hook up, there would be at least 2 forms of casas, with plenty of grey area.

1- a legal, registered casa that is guest friendly, meaning they would allow you to bring a cubana into the place and let her spend the night with you after she registers. the problem with this is that they may not allow another woman for the duration of time that you are staying there, so if she is no good after your first session then it complicates things for you. also, some cubanas may be unwilling to share their information, with cuba being a police state and all. this will be especially the case of the chica has been busted for jineterismo. you will definitely run into this problem if you are in hotels. some casa owners may just want to hold onto the woman's id and not register her, it all depends. also, you may be in one city where you will have no problem registering your chica, and then have trouble doing the same thing in the next city.

2- an illegal casa, which basically means someone renting out a room for hookups. this is not a bad idea for daytime quickies. i have even spent nights at such casas, the downside being you have to leave at around 6 am. the going rate for overnighting at illegal casas seems to be no more than $15 cuc. any cuban will have no trouble finding such a place.

anyway, moving on. like wet nose said, things in cuba change from week to week, and you may just have the misfortune of arriving at the beginning of a crackdown on jineterismo. a lot of stuff is possible in cuba, it just depends.

re: reports of distinction. a lot of people, yours truly included, do not even bother to take that extra step to make sure one's report is included in the "reports of distinction" section. so you may have to do more reading...aren't these servers and regular girls also pay for play once they see you are american. i saw this documentary after my last posting, which i am sure you guys saw, called " cuba prostitution documentary" they made it seem like every girl was for sale that was single. the guy was a real jerk, and the film wasnt well done, but it was nice eye opener for someone who never went. my plan was to meet a hottie at one of these take out clubs, and pay her again the next day to show me around and see the culture. 50 bucks to be a tour guide can't be bad money for 4 hours. i would definitely need to have a connection with the girl, which usually isn't that hard for me after a few girls. btw, are these girls pretty sexual with other women.

i'm a little dissapointed in the casa problems i will have. i want a private apartment / casa where i don't have to see the owner when i come and go with girls. pay them the money, promise not to have **** girls, which i never do anyway, and see you when i check out. anyone stay at a place like that?

Combo

10-15-13, 06:02

Ranocchio

10-17-13, 10:22

Two pics about my last trip in Havana 2009.

Bye

Velasco

10-19-13, 09:31

aren't these servers and regular girls also pay for play once they see you are american. i saw this documentary after my last posting, which i am sure you guys saw, called " cuba prostitution documentary" they made it seem like every girl was for sale that was single. the guy was a real jerk, and the film wasnt well done, but it was nice eye opener for someone who never went. my plan was to meet a hottie at one of these take out clubs, and pay her again the next day to show me around and see the culture. 50 bucks to be a tour guide can't be bad money for 4 hours. i would definitely need to have a connection with the girl, which usually isn't that hard for me after a few girls. btw, are these girls pretty sexual with other women.

i'm a little dissapointed in the casa problems i will have. i want a private apartment / casa where i don't have to see the owner when i come and go with girls. pay them the money, promise not to have **** girls, which i never do anyway, and see you when i check out. anyone stay at a place like that?that was not a good documentary, i have to say. no, every woman you see is not available, and some tact is necessary.

yes, the kind of casa you are looking for is available, some even have private entrances, maybe someone here will take the trouble to share. i have stayed in casas where the owners gave me the key and never bothered, but we were all using the same entrance, so a family member would occasionally be in the living room when i came through. they did not mention the issue of cubanas, and in those cases i ended up spending the night out of the house, kinda wandering back early in the morning. in some of my old reports, i ended up with older cougar, milf types who just took me back to their places.

Golds

10-19-13, 14:00

That was not a good documentary, I have to say. No, every woman you see is not available, and some tact is necessary.

Yes, the kind of casa you are looking for is available, some even have private entrances, maybe someone here will take the trouble to share. I have stayed in casas where the owners gave me the key and never bothered, but we were all using the same entrance, so a family member would OCCASIONALLY be in the living room when I came through. They did NOT mention the issue of Cubanas, and in those cases I ended up spending the night out of the house, kinda wandering back early in the morning. In some of my old reports, I ended up with older cougar, MILF types who just took me back to their places.Indeed, after 20 years mongering in Cuba I can confirm NOT every woman is available, and in my opinion Havana is spoiled nowadays concerning mongering, even the attitude of the habaneros sucks nowadays. I mean the habaneros who are working with tourists, the security guard, the waiter, the casa owner etc.

The discos are full of hardcore putas, with an age of 20 and a face of a 40 year old, only working at night, every night. And the prices they ask are ridiculous.

Guy Lafleur

11-04-13, 01:43

Hi there,

Anyone ever stay at Hotel AtlanticoatPlayas del Este? Any information would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Guy

Member #3200

11-04-13, 12:48

SanJoseFan

11-04-13, 20:37

I have stayed there a few times at Atlantico, very nice, but not GF (unless you want to sign her in and pay full day rate for her) and very hard to sneak in a chica or bribing a guard doesn't happen much either.Think about the Tropicoco just up the street from the Atlantico, guards are more amiable to bringing the girls into the property, sometimes girls even stay in their own rooms overnight on the property. Atlantico is a nicer property than the Tropicoco, but remember it is Cuba, and you're not going to to find 5 star rooms or food anywhere anyways.

Kalifornication

11-09-13, 04:27

Well said. Treat a country, a culture and a woman respectfully, and you will be richly rewarded. Treat them with contempt, and they will see right through you, she'll treat you like the yuma you project when you could have been treated like a king. It is all about choices, and a bit of karma.

The point he was trying to make is that Cuba is about more than just pussy. If you go for just pussy then you are cheating yourself out of a wonderful experience. There is no other place like Cuba on this earth. Its like its being preserved for a final look for those interested.

Its good music everywhere, and its sung with passion. There is no guaranteed financial reward, they sing fir the love of Cuban music. From the jazz at la Zorra why el Cuervo to Casa de Musica. From the beach to guys singing on the Malecon. Its everywhere.

From the ancient buildings that are untouched over the last 100 years to the Spanish history that still stands.

From the people who make the best of a bad situation. To the beautiful women who still make love with passion. To the romantic air that makes Cubans still believe in romance.

I really am starting to dislike guys that go there exclusively to exploit the island for its pretty women who fuck for less. Respect the island and the people and you will receive all the rewards the island has to offer. Go there looking for the next Rio fuck fest and the people will see through your deception.

Travel2040

11-10-13, 06:47

Now everything is finally for my third trip to Cuba. I have my booking confirmation for the casa and tickets. I was in Cuba in January this year and have a great stay. The Island is beautiful, safe, interesting culture and wonderful people. This time I will check out new places like Don Cangrejo, Dos Gardenias, El Gato Tuerto, Disco Turquinos and other places. In January I basically visit famous tourist clubs like Salon Rojo, La Cecilia, Jhonny's, Casa de La Musica, La Maison and others. This time I'm looking for new experiences. You need some trips to know a place.

Travel2040

11-13-13, 03:06

Taboc

11-13-13, 04:16

I feel little tired of Thailand.I have started liking Cuba though I have been there only twice. Will Cuba ever make me tired of Thailand, I do not think so. Here is why.

Thai massage. Just too good to get before / after a good banging session.

Food. Cheap, fresh, some of them are natural viagra.

Facilities. Good mattress, rooms with all facilities.

Fish bowl. Getting a chica is like shopping, one of a kind experience.

Get stuff. You can get what you want, custom clothing to fake rolex.

Phone / internet. Just in case you need to communicate back home.

You may wonder what am I talking. This is a monger forum, not a travelocity post to compare what's a good tourist destination. Who cares about all this, what about chicas.

Well if you like submissive Asian little things, then sure you would like it. If you like big ass fucking machines, then I guess skip Thailand.

For me, Thailand is a total package and always good to be there at least once a year minimum. Cuba is great in other ways, no less to Thailand, but no better either, I think.

A monger must goto both places atleast once in life, or else the whole life is a waste.

Mr Gogo

11-13-13, 05:56

After over 20 trips to Thailand the last year mainly to Pattaya I feel little tired of Thailand. Of course Thailand is a very good travel destination and very easy to discover. But I think the scene in Thailand has changed the last year. More crime and all the tourism have made that the place has lost it's charm. The quality of girls are not very good and you really need to look to find some special in Pattaya. I have also experienced Brasil. My last trip in Brasil was in 2006. Brasil is a nice place but you need to take some precautions and to be prepared that the crime scene is high. In some areas in Rio De Janeiro, Receife, Natal and Fortaleza I really felt unsafe. In Cuba I feel that I have more to discover. Havana is secure and the people very friendly. The sun is shining, girls are beautiful, the atmosphere is magic and the culture intresting. I'm also thinking about to vist the Phillipines and Cebu. Some friends recommended the place.Good post. I do Asia every February and find it a lovely break from the Caribbean. I guess it depends on the type of woman that interests you. Me, I like variety. I felt very safe in Thailand, and find "Walking street" intoxicating. I'm very fortunate because I started several years ago in the old Sosua but I always had an adventurous spirit. I do the DR regularly with a mix of Cuba and Asia, so my calendar is full.

But each place has its own uniqueness. The DR has been over-exposed like Brazil in its final days, but there are spots that can be fun. Asia is unique because it has a complete different vibe from our side of the world. Also guys from the States don't want the long flight so it still is fresh in some ways.

Cuba is unique because its original and real. Adventure is there for now if you dare go. Its like a forbidden pleasure. The only negatives about Cuba are the heat and the money exchange hit. I think right now I'm in love with many places and cultures, and thats a good problem to have LOL.

Givency

11-17-13, 03:06

Fresh back from 5 days in Havana and I really enjoyed this place. Cuba is not cheap. I came in through Mexico City and entered with no problems. The Immigration lady asked me if I had insurance. I told her it was in my luggage and she stamped my Visa (not my passport) and I was in. I went with four friends and we all got in with no issues. We decided to stay at a hotel for out first run. We stayed at the hotel plaza as all of the other hotels were booked for some trade convention. The Hotel Plaza rooms were terrible, but the lobby was nice and the location was great.

The first day there I noticed girls working the lobby of the hotel. I spoke with security and was told getting girls to the room would cost 30 pesos for security to look the other way. I changed 500 Canadian and got 476 Pesos back. Crazy. We went to Salon Rojo the first night there. This place was full of 10's. Me and my boys waiting and didn't latch on to the first babe to check out the variety and it was plenty of that. I settled on this one babe and she would not go to the hotel because of the police. She said the police nab the girls when they are leaving the hotels. I talked to another babe who had no issues going to the hotel. The one I settled on talked me and my friends into going to a Casa two doors down with her girls. We got there and an older lady let is in. She charged us 25 pesos and escorted us to the rooms. It was weird as hell. I went into the room at there were towels, soap and everything. The babe I had was gorgeous. Gave a great BBBJ, hit that ass for about 30 minutes until I shot my load. This babe was up and out before I could get dressed. She had to hurry and see if she could land another guy. Every girl in Salon Rojo I talked to wanted 100 Pesos. I negotiated hard and the broads would not budge off 100. In fact, when we came in, security told us its 100 for the babes. We headed back to the hotel about 2am and I sparked up a convo with this gorgeous babe named Isabel in the lobby of the hotel. We had a few Mojitos and she said she would break me off for 60 pesos. I had to. Off to the room, after giving security their 30. This babe was a real tiger. BBBJ, sex for about an hour and she BBBJ'ed me until I came becuase I couldn't come fucking her. I liked this babe. Great body, great attitude and wasnt begging for drinks like the chick like to do."One drink for the lady", none of that shit from this one.

Went to Casa de Musica. This place was full of 5's and 6's. Left the place after about and hour empty handed. We went to Dos Gardenias in Miramar. Chicks were fine, but there were businessmen in that joint throwing around big money. I wasnt buying a bottle to get chicks at the table.

Stuck with Salon Rojo the rest of the way. Pulled a chick Marlene out of there and she wouldn't budge off 100 either. She and a friend met me at the hotel as they went in separate Taxi's. She was tall, had a big booty but the sex was just average. BBBJ was average was well.

Next day I was doing a city tour in a bike taxi and met this babe that was walking down the street. She was Cuban but lives in Finland so she said. She gave me her number and we ended up meeting at the Saratoga for drinks. After about 10 mojitos, we went to the hotel and they still charged me 30 pesos even though this babe had a Finland passport. Great sex, fucked her in the ass, BBBJ and CIM. It was all for fun and didn't pay anything. I always read stories on here about guys getting free pussy and I thought they were lying. This babe just like me and we had a great time. I realize that I was lucky and this is not the norm. We agreed to meet the next day and she showed up at the hotel with a rugged lesbian chick wanting a threesome. She wanted me to pay the girl 150 pesos. I knew my luck couldn't keep going. This babe had gold teeth and eyebrow piercings. I just couldn't do it. They got mad and left. I linked up with my girl Isabel from the lobby of the hotel again and she put on another masterful performance for the same 60 pesos, plus 30 for security.

When I was out and about I saw police detaining girls that were with men that were obviously not Cuban. That shit is real. I seen them hauling broads off alot. The girls are rightfully afraid of the police.

All in all. I had a great time and would go back. I'm definately getting a Casa Particular if I go back for more freedom to run broads in and out.

BrasilSoccer0

11-17-13, 23:19

Mr Gogo

11-17-13, 23:49

Hanging out and partying a few days ago at Casa De Musica.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfsB2-jhvY

Mr Gogo

11-18-13, 00:16

Why pay $100 then go back and try to negotiate when every girl already got news of what you paid.

And the so called freebie, I think your personal ego got the worst of you. If it was a freebie she wouldn't have came back the next day with a lisbian friend asking for $150. Did you tell her you went to salon rojo. LOL

You should've paid! No such thing as freebie!I believe him. He spent money on drinks and they had a great vibe, in and out of bed. Maybe she was setting him up for the big payout later, The lesbian could have been her girlfriend or pimp, we don't know. Free pussy is in Cuba, but I agree with you because I always like to pay my way. Free pussy usually involves one person catching feelings, and that can lead to major problems later.

Tapanic

11-18-13, 05:57

Hi,

Do you have any fotos of the Cuban girl living in Finland? Can you give her phone number?

Fresh back from 5 days in Havana and I really enjoyed this place. Cuba is not cheap. I came in through Mexico City and entered with no problems. The Immigration lady asked me if I had insurance. I told her it was in my luggage and she stamped my Visa (not my passport) and I was in. I went with four friends and we all got in with no issues. We decided to stay at a hotel for out first run. We stayed at the hotel plaza as all of the other hotels were booked for some trade convention. The Hotel Plaza rooms were terrible, but the lobby was nice and the location was great.

The first day there I noticed girls working the lobby of the hotel. I spoke with security and was told getting girls to the room would cost 30 pesos for security to look the other way. I changed 500 Canadian and got 476 Pesos back. Crazy. We went to Salon Rojo the first night there. This place was full of 10's. Me and my boys waiting and didn't latch on to the first babe to check out the variety and it was plenty of that. I settled on this one babe and she would not go to the hotel because of the police. She said the police nab the girls when they are leaving the hotels. I talked to another babe who had no issues going to the hotel. The one I settled on talked me and my friends into going to a Casa two doors down with her girls. We got there and an older lady let is in. She charged us 25 pesos and escorted us to the rooms. It was weird as hell. I went into the room at there were towels, soap and everything. The babe I had was gorgeous. Gave a great BBBJ, hit that ass for about 30 minutes until I shot my load. This babe was up and out before I could get dressed. She had to hurry and see if she could land another guy. Every girl in Salon Rojo I talked to wanted 100 Pesos. I negotiated hard and the broads would not budge off 100. In fact, when we came in, security told us its 100 for the babes. We headed back to the hotel about 2am and I sparked up a convo with this gorgeous babe named Isabel in the lobby of the hotel. We had a few Mojitos and she said she would break me off for 60 pesos. I had to. Off to the room, after giving security their 30. This babe was a real tiger. BBBJ, sex for about an hour and she BBBJ'ed me until I came becuase I couldn't come fucking her. I liked this babe. Great body, great attitude and wasnt begging for drinks like the chick like to do."One drink for the lady", none of that shit from this one.

Went to Casa de Musica. This place was full of 5's and 6's. Left the place after about and hour empty handed. We went to Dos Gardenias in Miramar. Chicks were fine, but there were businessmen in that joint throwing around big money. I wasnt buying a bottle to get chicks at the table..

Givency

11-18-13, 15:11

Why pay $100 then go back and try to negotiate when every girl already got news of what you paid.

And the so called freebie, I think your personal ego got the worst of you. If it was a freebie she wouldn't have came back the next day with a lisbian friend asking for $150. Did you tell her you went to salon rojo. LOL

You should've paid! No such thing as freebie!Brasil Soccer, I was having fun. There were some babes I wouldve paid 150 for. I didn't go all the way there to squabble over 20 bucks. Why not try to talk a girl down from 100? It make for fun conversation and what is the hell do I have to loose. Your response about ego is off. The girl was just too disgusting to nail. My standards got in the way. I had a blast and I wouldn't change a thing, with the exception of nailing a few more babes.

Travel2040

11-18-13, 22:58

Member #3200

11-19-13, 03:49

No negotiation skills whatsoever.

Paid 100+CUC for most chicks and said he was willing to pay 150, this isn't a monger, but someone who doesn't RTFF and understand it is Cuba, we have the advantage of the negotiation battle down there.