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Yup. Typical dumb American.
No negotiation skills whatsoever.
Paid 100+CUC for most chicks and said he was willing to pay 150, this isn't a monger, but someone who doesn't RTFF and understand it is Cuba, we have the advantage of the negotiation battle down there.
Hanging out and partying a few days ago at Casa De Musica.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfsB2-jhvYThank you for the memories. Viva Cuba.
Yup. Typical dumb American.How can a man who had a great time and nailed some gorgeous babes be dumb. When did having fun turn into being dumb. I'm not rich, but I spend 100 bucks on a few rounds of drinks with the boys. I'm not dumb, I'm just don't care to haggle over 20 or 40 bucks with a babe I want to nail. Try it some times, you may have more fun. I like the way I run my program. Just be happy that I had a good time. If there is a guy who wants to nail Salma Hayek and he spots her twin in Salon Rojo, he's going to pay the 100 if she won't budge. And if he doesn't, so be it. Everyone has their way they like to do things. Some cats think a shithole hotel is okay, some guys have to stay at the Saratoga. Let's just be happy that we are all getting laid!
Great report!
I'm going to Havana in December. This will be my third trip to Cuba. Salon Rojo is a great place to have fun and you will find many very good looking girls. The girls in Salon Rojo are freelancers but I think the scene is organized. Taxi drivers, bouncers and the bartenders corporate with the girls. The girls also have room available. Some blocks away from Salon Rojo you will find El Gato Tuerto. It's more a Cuban style and not so hardcore. Was Salon Rojo very crowded this time?Salon Rojo was packed with people, mostly women.
Hi,
Very good post. I have been Cuba few times myself too. I am from Finland so I would like to know if you have any fotos of the Cuban girl living in Finland? Can you give her phone number? Is it posible private mail to you?
Tapanic
Salon Rojo was packed with people, mostly women.
Yes, the most important thing is that you have fun.
How can a man who had a great time and nailed some gorgeous babes be dumb. When did having fun turn into being dumb. I'm not rich, but I spend 100 bucks on a few rounds of drinks with the boys. I'm not dumb, I'm just don't care to haggle over 20 or 40 bucks with a babe I want to nail. Try it some times, you may have more fun. I like the way I run my program. Just be happy that I had a good time. If there is a guy who wants to nail Salma Hayek and he spots her twin in Salon Rojo, he's going to pay the 100 if she won't budge. And if he doesn't, so be it. Everyone has their way they like to do things. Some cats think a shithole hotel is okay, some guys have to stay at the Saratoga. Let's just be happy that we are all getting laid!
How can a man who had a great time and nailed some gorgeous babes be dumb. When did having fun turn into being dumb. I'm not rich, but I spend 100 bucks on a few rounds of drinks with the boys. I'm not dumb, I'm just don't care to haggle over 20 or 40 bucks with a babe I want to nail. Try it some times, you may have more fun. I like the way I run my program. Just be happy that I had a good time. If there is a guy who wants to nail Salma Hayek and he spots her twin in Salon Rojo, he's going to pay the 100 if she won't budge. And if he doesn't, so be it. Everyone has their way they like to do things. Some cats think a shithole hotel is okay, some guys have to stay at the Saratoga. Let's just be happy that we are all getting laid!I agree with the above. It only makes sense to make a counter offer when a girl quotes you $100, but if she doesn't budge and you really want her, who cares about another $20 or $40. I'd rather sleep with the hottest girl I can find then spend the night bargain shopping. A lot of girls know where they stand and if they are worth it. I know a lot of girls that would refuse anything less than $60 or $80 out of principal. People think all Cubans are desperate for money, but the truth is a lot of girls can afford to go home with nothing and wait for tomorrow than accept a lower price.
I get the impression that some guys are more interested in finding the cheapest girl in the club than spending another $40 for a super model.
Tank Not Mt
11-23-13, 04:56
Just got back from 4 great nights in Havana. Been going there for years and still love it. Things have changed over the years but the quality is superb. For me and my buddies, we don't mind spending a bit more for a Casa in the best locations with butler service, swimming pools and no hassles. Breakfast for champions, etc. Etc. But its not for everyone as most cannot afford it. I can so I enjoy it. Certainly I understand the way things work for these chicas. When I first came to Havana I was told there were three kinds of woman there: Pros, those who were Pros and those who will be Pros. As long as you understand the culture and accept it and not try to change them you can really have a great time no matter what your Budget is. Enjoy fellas. As long as it lasts!
I get the impression that some guys are more interested in finding the cheapest girl in the club than spending another $40 for a super model.This for those who insist on nitpicking every report submitted. I should add that I have never been to Salon Rojo, and will probably never go. I did go to the Casa de la musica and it was a complete turnoff. I guess there are some who enjoy the aggressive approach of the women in such places, but some of us do not. I personally don't care how how hot a woman is, I do not want my crotch grabbed.
This for those who insist on nitpicking every report submitted. I should add that I have never been to Salon Rojo, and will probably never go. I did go to the Casa de la musica and it was a complete turnoff. I guess there are some who enjoy the aggressive approach of the women in such places, but some of us do not. I personally don't care how how hot a woman is, I do not want my crotch grabbed.I also don't like hardcore women, but the music at "Casa de musica" was exciting. We don't always need to let sex get in the way of having a good time in Cuba. Anytime its live music around I really appreciate it. Here in America the music is about making money never the passion of someone performing for little financial profit.
I don't know where "Salon Rojo" is and have no intention of going but to each his own. I just feel Cuba has so much to offer that I don't need to limit myself to the " Mongers hot list". Some guys are just lazy and refuse to learn even basic Spanish, but want to go to Spanish countries and bang hot Spanish women.
Also you are right about guys jumping on the poster. We need to thank him for posting and sharing then respectfully point out his mistakes.
As long as you understand the culture and accept it and not try to change them you can really have a great time no matter what your Budget is. Enjoy fellas. As long as it lasts!I couldn't agree more.
This for those who insist on nitpicking every report submitted. I should add that I have never been to Salon Rojo, and will probably never go. I did go to the Casa de la musica and it was a complete turnoff. I guess there are some who enjoy the aggressive approach of the women in such places, but some of us do not. I personally don't care how how hot a woman is, I do not want my crotch grabbed.Indeed, I don't like these places, just hookers you can find in every country, just the price is different.
You miss a lot at least as for this hobby if ignore top night clubs. However, realize that the top shelf share a minimum fee with boyfriends, security etc that's why they always have got a watermark. If they leave empty there is nothing to share and no sweat. This is so to speak a top club overhead. Deal with it. Consider it like EWR or a barfine, or salida or whatever you like.
You miss a lot at least as for this hobby if ignore top night clubs. However, realize that the top shelf share a minimum fee with boyfriends, security etc that's why they always have got a watermark. If they leave empty there is nothing to share and no sweat. This is so to speak a top club overhead. Deal with it. Consider it like EWR or a barfine, or salida or whatever you like.This is not my Cuba expience, going to a club in Havana or a brothel in Thailand, Cuba is an adventure, hunting a Cubana that is hard to get and your reward will be a lot more then una puta de cien fullassss
By the way Cuba is not cheap, I go for 1 month and my budget for spending their is 6 500 Euros or 8 800 USD. This is not Thailand or the Philippines. But like I said for me it is an adventure, taking time to hunt.
Hi All,
Can anyone recommend a good casa in old Havana? The one I usually take is booked for the weekend I am looking to go. Girl friendly of course with the usual basics like A / C. Don't mind paying a bit extra. Just PM me you can help. Thanks.
Brendo1234
12-17-13, 03:29
Can someone give the the run down of the scene and recommendations for a newbie to Cuba, I have a 1 week holiday planned for Jan.
Tank Not Mt
12-17-13, 16:24
Can someone give the the run down of the scene and recommendations for a newbie to Cuba, I have a 1 week holiday planned for Jan.All you need to do is read the great information in this Forum! It tells you all you need to know.
If you have any specific questions PM the author of the report.
Good Luck and stay safe.
DMonger2013
12-18-13, 20:25
Hi Gents,
Can you all recommend a casa with pool that allows you to bring local friends? Trying to find a place on the internet has been very frustrating. Nobody gets back to you and you really don't know how accomodating the owners are to bringing guests to the casa. I'm not looking for a really cheap place either. I'd settle on a nice place for a few more $$$ as long as it was the right fit.
One guy on the internet has a place that looks good but wants me to wire the full payment to him 7 days before my arrival. He says if I want to pay cash that there would be a 5% surchage. It sounds shady to me.
Also where are the best places to rent in Havana. Vedado, Miramar, other?
Please PM or post it here for me. Your recomendations would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Gents,
Can you all recommend a casa with pool that allows you to bring local friends? Trying to find a place on the internet has been very frustrating. Nobody gets back to you and you really don't know how accomodating the owners are to bringing guests to the casa. I'm not looking for a really cheap place either. I'd settle on a nice place for a few more $$$ as long as it was the right fit.
One guy on the internet has a place that looks good but wants me to wire the full payment to him 7 days before my arrival. He says if I want to pay cash that there would be a 5% surchage. It sounds shady to me.
Also where are the best places to rent in Havana. Vedado, Miramar, other?
Please PM or post it here for me. Your recomendations would be greatly appreciated.Hi!
Don't send money upfront. IMO, the best place to stay is Vedado or Miramar. Normally when I go to Havana I always buy a hotel room from here for 2 days to guarantee my stay and when I am there I try to find a casa. The cheapest hotel you can get in Vedado is around £20 a day, but there are some expensive ones, depends on what you want. In Havana there are a lot of casas where you can bring friends.
By the way Cuba is NOT cheap, I go for 1 month and my budget for spending their is 6 500 Euros or 8 800 USD. This is NOT Thailand or the Phillipines. But like I said for me it is an aventure, taking time to hunt.I have never been to Cuba, but thinking to go there. I am interested both to see country and get friendly with local girls. Can you put it more in detail how come Cuba is not cheap. my targets are normal girls, semi pros and pros. Would you say I will have tight with money having 5k USD to spend for 3 weeks (flights, hotels not included).
I have never been to Cuba, but thinking to go there. I am iterested both to see country and get friendly with local girls. Can you put it more in detail how come Cuba is not cheap. I am in my late tweneys and good looking, so my targets are normal girls, sei pros and pros. Would you say I will have tight with money having 5k USD to spend for 3 weeks (flights, hotels not included).Welcome Tom, let me help you out. A casa Particular with meals will run about 40usd a day, hotels will kill your money quickly. I can eat lobster there for about 15usd meal with veggies and rice at restaurants. A car rental will run you about 75usd a day with insurance. Clubs can cost 10usd for admission (Casa de Musica). Taxis can take you anywhere in Havana for about 5-7usd a ride. My Cuba libre drinks run about 3-5usd. Where you take the big hit is at the money exchange. I was getting 87 on the dollar. So on every 1,000usd you change you lose 130usd. IMO its not worth going through the other exchange methods. I backed out of purchasing Canadian dollars here in the states when they asked for my passport. The exchange in the States and the exchange in Cuba worked out to roughly the same 13. Just save the bullshit and take USD. The women will vary and if you don't speak Spanish your options will be limited to the SW and regular monger spots. Expect to pay from 50-100usd plus 25usd for a quick casa. If you speak some Spanish then you can write your own ticket from regular girls to semi-pros for20-50usd. Buying clothes is expensive in Cuba so take some clothes to give away to friends, they will love you for this. Cuba is hot. I lost 7 pounds in 7 days but I was walking 15 miles in the heat (I like to walk). Also my diet was reduced to one nice meal about 2pm with fruit drinks for the heat, no breakfast except fruit juices.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for more in depth report. This gives me much better picture of Cuba and what to expect. The biggest challenge I see will be my lack of Spanish skill.
ShakeForMe
12-25-13, 10:28
Mr Gogo,
Thanks for the info, greatly appreciated!
DMonger2013
12-28-13, 06:12
Does anyone know of a contact in Havana that can set me up with accommodations and a bit of a tour guide / driver? It will be my first time in Cuba and I could use some help.
Where you take the big hit is at the money exchange. I was getting 87 on the dollar. So on every 1000usd you change you lose 130usd. IMO its not worth going through the other exchange methods. I backed out of purchasing Canadian dollars here in the states when they asked for my passport. The exchange in the States and the exchange in Cuba worked out to roughly the same 13. Just save the bullshit and take USD.Mr. Gogo's advice is good but limited. If someone is looking for basic travel information that applies to every tourist, it is a good idea to look at TRAVEL sites or the latest guidebooks. Mr. Gogo, I beg to differ with you on the issue of the exchange rate. In looking at other travel sites, there are individuals that have arrived in CUba with US and Canadian currency, and there is always a better exchange with Canadian $$$. It is really not hard to get hold of Canadian currency. If you are from the US and going through Canada it is a non-issue. You can also get Canadian currency in transit cities like Nassau and Cancun. I have personally exchanged US for Canadian currency in Cancun and Nassau in the past.
I have a question for you. Why did you back out when they asked for your passport?
Mr. Gogo's advice is good but limited. If someone is looking for basic travel information that applies to every tourist, it is a good idea to look at TRAVEL sites or the latest guidebooks. Mr. Gogo, I beg to differ with you on the issue of the exchange rate. In looking at other travel sites, there are individuals that have arrived in CUba with US and Canadian currency, and there is always a better exchange with Canadian $$$. It is really not hard to get hold of Canadian currency. If you are from the US and going through Canada it is a non-issue. You can also get Canadian currency in transit cities like Nassau and Cancun. I have personally exchanged US for Canadian currency in Cancun and Nassau in the past.
I have a question for you. Why did you back out when they asked for your passport?Happy Holidays Velasco. Here is the answer to your question; If someone wants to travel with the least exposure, exposing your passport to exchange money for currency of a place you have never been, might draw a flag and bring unwanted attention in the future.
I called the exchange place here in the States just now and this is what they told me. They said on 100usd, you can get 99 Canadian plus a 3usd fee. The more you exchange the better deal you get naturally. Okay, now when you exchange the Canadian dollar for CUC the rate was 92-94 in Havana. So after all this exchanging money in the States and risking exposure then getting hit in the CUC exchange, you probably saved 2-3 percent. To me its not worth it but I respect what you are saying. I agree Sir Canadian dollars are better but for me I just take the hit and call it a loss.
I'm sure the guys that promote the black market will be posting next so let me say something about that. I will never give 1000usd to some guy on the street who promises me a great rate. Fake bills, robbery or anything can go wrong. I go into a hotel / bank that has a camera. I keep my receipt. And I look at my watch to remember the time before exiting. But to each his own.
I have been traveling the world for several years now and the only bad thing that has ever happened to me was getting pick pocketed at Classicos In Sosua in 2007. It was my fault because I had three girls dancing very close and rubbing me, but it was only for 80usd. My point is that I'm super cautious when traveling.
Happy New Year to all and safe travels.
I will begin telling the story with the characters, we all found out we were user of this forum and other ones that made this trip posible.
I have been going to Cuba for around 5 years, in total more then 130 trip so I know Havana quite well, the funny fact is that I always stay in my apartment but whenever I want to party I ended up looking up Jonesie casa advice since 4 years ago and thanks to him I have been staying in Alberto house but I have never encounter more mongers until November if you read Alejandro casa reviews you will understand that people always leave the door open of the elevator and it won't move until they close the door correctly, that how I met the first monger which turn out to know Jonesie from el castillo, at first I was pissed off because of him the door was stuck on the 16 floor, one floor from where I was staying, he came down the stairs to tell me the elevator was stuck. And it was stuck because he didn't close the door, we will call him paisalover because I don't know his username LOL, anyways I ended up inviting him to party in Don Cangrejo if you are in Havana on a Thursday always go to Don Cangrejo sarao is making the best parties for Thursday in Havana, and you will see a lot of lovely ladies, he didn't know how it work in Cuba so he was slow approaching the girls but the next day he got the hang of it when we ended up in la Cecilia, one after another we just kept interviewing them, the ones we didn't like we ask them if they like anal and a lot of them reply no so that how we got rid of a few LOL that night he ended up going with a tiny spinner which he kept for like 3 days, the one I pick was a really hot mulata from Holguin that I have been wanting to fuck for a few trips but always ended up picking up another one.
Third day was pretty relax hanging out in Tarara and trying to get normal girls in another sarao party, paisalover and me love prostitutes but me and him are 28 years so sometimes we can get free pussy I know its almost none existent in Havana but we were lucky enough to find some during the trip.
Four day I just ended up calling a girl I met from the past and paisalover hook up with the same girl from Friday.
That day I had to leave so I ended up going to Mexico and coming back a 8 days later what I found out was even more funny paisalover found another monger in the building we will call the third monger the power ranger, he was hitting girl after girl and paisalover or me we couldn't figure out his taste he bang from white girls to black girls to anything in between mulata, Asian from fugly to drop dread gorgeous. Anyways that how we call guys who fuck just about everything because like a power ranger there always fucking up monsters.
So while I was in Mexico I heard all there mongers stories they ended up in Dos Gardenias, they tried to get girls in Sangri La 21 why 42 in playa I recommend this bar for Tuesday Leoni Torres will be playing you won't find any jineteras but you will see the hottest non hookers girls in Havana go, you won't be able to fuck 99% of them but just looking at a Cuban girl who is not a jinetera and being so hot its worth the 5 cover fee try to get there before 11pm or you won't get in, its always super pack.
When I got back paisalover got a girl just out of the bus like we say in Tijuana, he got a really cool looking pinarena with the most amazing tits I have seen in a while, the words of the paisa lover were anti gravity boob she was like 18 perfect 32 C cup almost a D cup that look perfect with a tiny dress she had, I didn't get to see them but I know they were perfect LOL.
So after I return to Cuba I ended up meeting the 4th monger another German like the power ranger that read about Alejandro house so we recruited him, quiet guy but at the end of the trip the luckiest guy of the 4 of us.
So as soon as I landed I call them up we ended up hanging out in Melia Cohiba, they were with my driver so after a few drinks we went to La ceclilia, Mr paisalover was with the hot pinarena with the perfect boobs, so it was power ranger, quiet guy and me on the hunt for la Ceclilia, it was a reggaeton night with a 5 cuc cover fee it was great more girls go since the cover is cheap.
The power ranger always in the hunt picked up a nice mulata, I picked up a really hot blond who said that she wouldn't fuck me 2 times so I ended up leaving her and graving another brunette hot hot super hot the funny thing is paisalover loves spinners but since he was with his pinarena he couldn't get the phone number, in the end I send one of my Cuban friend to pick up the girl and get the phone number since she was so fucking hot and I just got rid of the blond so I decided to sacrifice myself and fuck her instead of paisalover to get her the next day, the quietguy picked up also a hot mulata who only fuck him once so we had to teach him the next day to always negotiate what he wants before going to the house.
The story of that day still hunts my wet dreams I was fucking her so hard in every position and in the end when I had her doggy style she was screaming in orgasm please fuck my ass, I couldn't believe what I just heard either I have to ask for it or negotiate the price but this girls was so fucking horny she ask for it, it was the best experience I slowly started with finger then 2 then 3 and finally home fun I was all in feeling that tight asshole until I exploded in a really good orgasm.
The photo is from one of my regulars girl from La cecilia, she only likes to do it once. So I don't call her that often but she has a perfect body with amazing boobs.
The next day the 2 German guys ended up hitting Dos Gardenias and doing touristic stuff, paisa lover was with the pinarena which he met outside of salon rojo but have been with him for 5 days and not charge him anything he was really lucky and after 6 days after his last day he gave her all the cash he had left like 300 for 6 days we all think he got a pretty good deal and we left the girl in the bus station maybe faking to go back to pinar del Rio but apparently she is in love with my paisalover friend. One of the reason paisalover is coming back with me to do another trip to oriente next.
Part 2 to be Continued the next few days currently in Colombia.
Part 2 = the german guys, my driver and me in Camaguey, Bayamo and Pilon.
Kalifornication
01-03-14, 22:34
Happy Holidays Velasco. Here is the answer to your question; If someone wants to travel with the least exposure, exposing your passport to exchange money for currency of a place you have never been, might draw a flag and bring unwanted attention in the future.
I called the exchange place here in the States just now and this is what they told me. They said on 100usd, you can get 99 Canadian plus a 3usd fee. The more you exchange the better deal you get naturally. Okay, now when you exchange the Canadian dollar for CUC the rate was 92-94 in Havana. So after all this exchanging money in the States and risking exposure then getting hit in the CUC exchange, you probably saved 2-3 percent. To me its not worth it but I respect what you are saying. I agree Sir Canadian dollars are better but for me I just take the hit and call it a loss.
I'm sure the guys that promote the black market will be posting next so let me say something about that. I will never give 1000usd to some guy on the street who promises me a great rate. Fake bills, robbery or anything can go wrong. I go into a hotel / bank that has a camera. I keep my receipt. And I look at my watch to remember the time before exiting. But to each his own.
I have been traveling the world for several years now and the only bad thing that has ever happened to me was getting pick pocketed at Classicos In Sosua in 2007. It was my fault because I had three girls dancing very close and rubbing me, but it was only for 80usd. My point is that I'm super cautious when traveling.
Happy New Year to all and safe travels.I always get from $92CUC to $96CUC when I exchange $100 US. Why, because I exchange with the Cubans, not the cardeca. This is the "black-market" exchange. You can find these guys outside most cardecas. In havana they are more difficult to find. Casa owners can also recommend a friend that needs american currency. But they will always try to give you less than what I've attained on the black market.
Good luck
I always get from $92CUC to $96CUC when I exchange $100 US. Why, because I exchange with the Cubans, not the cardeca. This is the "black-market" exchange. You can find these guys outside most cardecas. In havana they are more difficult to find. Casa owners can also recommend a friend that needs american currency. But they will always try to give you less than what I've attained on the black market.
Good luckThanks Sir, great info. I'm planning on traveling to other areas outside of Havana later this year. When I venture out and explore I hope you don't mind if I pm you later for info. Also thanks Velasco for the valuable info.
Primusduvel
01-07-14, 06:29
Does anyone know of a contact in Havana that can set me up with accommodations and a bit of a tour guide / driver? It will be my first time in Cuba and I could use some help.PM I can help you with this.
PM I can help you with this.Hello,
I am just new to this very interesting forum. And very helpfull.
I have been to Thailand many many times. But it begins to be a boring place where the people aren't that much smiling any longer just try to rip you off, or milk the cow for as much as possible.
So its time to visite new places and the latinos has allways attracted me.
I recently have been reading a lot about Cuba. The beauty of the country, and for sure the beautifull ladies offering (cheap?) sex is the place for a single man.
Now there is so many different opinions and reviews about and from Cuba am a bit confused.
Is it safe there?
Is it that rip off place many descibe it as? (communist countries are often like that)
Am well aware the exchange rate is 1:1 Cuban to USD.
But am searching for how much money is needed as pocket money. For fun, food on restaurant and a girl. Every day?
Is $50-70 USD per day enough? (hotel is paid in advance)
What is the price for a few hours with a 20 something girl?
Is it needed at book a private accommodation. If I want have a lady with me at night?
For example is it possible to have a very pretty black lady for 30 USD? Plus room to fuck her?
Can I bring in condoms and viagra?
Any advise wil be very much appreciated.
Thanks so much,
Regards,
Ulfberth viking
Travel2040
01-08-14, 03:05
Hello,
I am just new to this very interesting forum. And very helpfull.
I have been to Thailand many many times. But it begins to be a boring place where the people aren't that much smiling any longer just try to rip you off, or milk the cow for as much as possible.
So its time to visite new places and the latinos has allways attracted me.
I recently have been reading a lot about Cuba. The beauty of the country, and for sure the beautifull ladies offering (cheap?) sex is the place for a single man.
Now there is so many different opinions and reviews about and from Cuba am a bit confused.
Is it safe there?..Last year I was in the same situation as you. After over 20 trips to Thailand and basically Pattaya I started to be little tired of the land of smile. Don't misunderstand me; Thailand is still a very good tourist destination. Now I have booked my third trip to Cuba and is very happy to visit this beautiful Island in the Caribbean. Cuba is more complicated than Thailand and you will need more advance knowledge before your first trip but when you know the game you will enjoy your time in Cuba. Cuba is a very safe travel destination (probably the safest in Latin-America) and the people are very easy to be in contact with. The girls are very beautiful (much higher quality compared with Thailand) and you will find all type and colour. The nightlife in Havana is very good and you will enjoy clubs like Salon Rojo, Casa de la Musica, La Maison, Jhonny's, El Gato Tuerto, La Cecilia, Don Cangrejo, Dos Gardenias and others. A very good advice; rent a casa particular (it's a must) where you can bring girls without to pay the Securitas guard that you have to do in the most hotels in Cuba. It's very easy to find a nice case particular in the price category 25-40 CUC.
Hello,
I am just new to this very interesting forum. And very helpfull.
I have been to Thailand many many times. But it begins to be a boring place where the people aren't that much smiling any longer just try to rip you off, or milk the cow for as much as possible.
So its time to visite new places and the latinos has allways attracted me.
I recently have been reading a lot about Cuba. The beauty of the country, and for sure the beautifull ladies offering (cheap?) sex is the place for a single man...Very interesting Sir. I read your your previous 3 posts to better understand you and was very confused about your sudden interest in Cuba. You said you weren't against sponsoring a Thai for a relationship, but now you appear bitter and are searching for new adventures. Don't get me wrong; I've been to Thailand and experienced the same problems you had there. So I feel you bro. What I find interesting is that you have gone from having the up and downs with Thai girls and wanting possible sponsorship to now wanting cheap black girls in Cuba.
Please understand that Cubans are very good at the game you are trying to play, deception. They will size you up and play you out. If you are only going for the supposedly cheapness, you will get hardcore girls that won't be cheap. They will match you for game. The casa owners can be your best friends but they will assume you are only there for game and send you girls with game. Just be real bro because the casa owners will act accordingly.
My experience was that I had a regular girlfriend that I spent time with. Actually we were walking one day checking out casas and she found this one that I liked. I thought her and the casa owner were cool but the casa owner had her own agenda for me. She saw that I wasn't having multiple hardcore pros and sized me up (my plan). Next thing I know, she started having beautiful girls at her casa in the evening to introduce to me. These were the top girls from the neighborhood looking for opportunity. They were educated, didn't hangout out night, spoke English, and had an innocence that boarded on nerdy. I planned dates around the time with my regular and slowly figured out the game. They wanted a way out and were keepers for the right guy. Even though I was a foreigner with a little money, they wanted a man who was serious. Unfortunately for the girl and casa owner, the girls in the neighborhood who were semi-pros had zeroed in on me without my knowledge. They saw opportunity also but on the short term. They figured out my schedule without me knowing. The gringo who had a girlfriend also liked to go out alone at night and came home around 2am. Long story short; A tall brown Cuban girl with long hair who I had seen always sitting at her stoop made conversation and she became my late night regular.
My point is to don't play yourself as a guy who wants cheap, frequent pussy, act like the good guy on vacation.
Last year I was in the same situation as you. After over 20 trips to Thailand and basically Pattaya I started to be little tired of the land of smile. Don't misunderstand me; Thailand is still a very good tourist destination. Now I have booked my third trip to Cuba and is very happy to visit this beautiful Island in the Caribbean. Cuba is more complicated than Thailand and you will need more advance knowledge before your first trip but when you know the game you will enjoy your time in Cuba. Cuba is a very safe travel destination (probably the safest in Latin-America) and the people are very easy to be in contact with. The girls are very beautiful (much higher quality compared with Thailand) and you will find all type and colour. The nightlife in Havana is very good and you will enjoy clubs like Salon Rojo, Casa de la Musica, La Maison, Jhonny's, El Gato Tuerto, La Cecilia, Don Cangrejo, Dos Gardenias and others. A very good advice; rent a casa particular (it's a must) where you can bring girls without to pay the Securitas guard that you have to do in the most hotels in Cuba. It's very easy to find a nice case particular in the price category 25-40 CUC.Hello sir,
Thank you very much for the reply. Reg. Casa Particular. Private accommodation? That wil say that I need to book that beside my hotel? Or I can just buy a ticket nad then find my place to stay by myself after arrival?
I ask this because in many tourist destinations, you have to write the name and adress of your stay on arrival visa / card.
If I must do this. Hotel + casa particular. Then I see it quite more expensive than for example Thailand.
25- 40 CUC is aproxm same in USD. Fair enough. But its quite cheap to buy a all inclusive trip here, but then not legal to bring in the girl hmm.
What would you recommend?
Thank you again very much for you kind answer.
Regards from Scnadinavia.
Very interesting Sir. I read your your previous 3 posts to better understand you and was very confused about your sudden interest in Cuba. You said you weren't against sponsoring a Thai for a relationship, but now you appear bitter and are searching for new adventures. Don't get me wrong; I've been to Thailand and experienced the same problems you had there. So I feel you bro. What I find interesting is that you have gone from having the up and downs with Thai girls and wanting possible sponsorship to now wanting cheap black girls in Cuba.
Please understand that Cubans are very good at the game you are trying to play, deception. They will size you up and play you out. If you are only going for the supposedly cheapness, you will get hardcore girls that won't be cheap. They will match you for game. The casa owners can be your best friends but they will assume you are only there for game and send you girls with game. Just be real bro because the casa owners will act accordingly..Hello sir,
Thank you so very much for long and informative reply I read all with interest. And its very helpfull.
Yeah I gues cubans are more smart than thais .as we both know isn't very bright. And there is a dark side in LOS.
To the Cubans: I am willing to pay for a nice good girl for sex but alos for friendship. Sorry if I explained myself wrong, but I don't want to pay a Thai working girl. Which I can not use for any conversation, cause they don't know anything about the world around them and are not interested. Thais are not interested if you can 5 different languages or you want to show something from you country. Forget the.
Then. They are to brainwashed.
I would be okay to take care of a good smart lady, with a brain and with whom I can discuss anything, cause she know something.
And also is interested to know about you. Your country and life etc. I am well aware as soon am out of Cuba again she wil have a new costumer. But if I can be close with her. When am there 2. 3 weeks or more then its fine for me.
I read what you say, about be more carefull there cause they are smart. Wel yeah its their country and that's what we can expect.
Just if I don't have the feeling they cheat on me to much. And don't steal from me, as I read from others experiences here. I have to say I never lost anything in Thailand. It is so sad and so hurting. When you have good kemi to a person and then they do this kind of things.
I see many of the pictures from Cuba and wow this country is runned down! Huh- but these brown ladies has really salsa rythm in their bodies and very good bodies. Not so big arses as many African girls has. And bodies are much better. Faces to I guess it is the mixes.
Is it possilbe to find a nice one, who can be your companion there for some days. Who maybe help you with different things. As a GF. I am not just for the cheap sex but I will pay for quality and look for the good honest lady also.
I allways try to be kind, friendly. Give people a smile. Give an extra tip. And you wouldn't have any problems anywhere.
Thank you again.
Hello sir,
Thank you so very much for long and informative reply I read all with interest. And its very helpfull.
Yeah I gues cubans are more smart than thais. As we both know isn't very bright. And there is a dark side in LOS.
To the Cubans: I am willing to pay for a nice good girl for sex but alos for friendship. Sorry if I explained myself wrong, but I don't want to pay a Thai working girl. Which I can not use for any conversation, cause they don't know anything about the world around them and are not interested. Thais are not interested if you can 5 different languages or you want to show something from you country. Forget the.
Then. They are to brainwashed.
I would be okay to take care of a good smart lady, with a brain and with whom I can discuss anything, cause she know something.Most of the girls will be your girlfriend and show you a great time. You seem like a good guy who is respectful and wants to have a good time, so you will have a ball in Cuba. Cuba is amazing and the women are an extra. You know how you go to a museum to see ancient history and artifacts? Well, Cuba is one big museum being preserved for a limited few before it catches up with the rest of the World. Those who don't see it soon will always wonder what is was like before American money / American tourists started flowing in. Cuba will become the star of the caribbean and guys like you and I will be priced out as it explodes.
Cubans have more time than money and are proud of who they are and their country, so they will be glad to show you around. Cuba is the kind of place you leave always wondering why you didn't do more. Cuba only shows you one hole-card at a time, she teases you because she has a lot to offer and she is unique.
Travel2040
01-09-14, 20:36
Hello sir,
Thank you very much for the reply. Reg. Casa Particular. Private accommodation? That wil say that I need to book that beside my hotel? Or I can just buy a ticket nad then find my place to stay by myself after arrival?
I ask this because in many tourist destinations, you have to write the name and adress of your stay on arrival visa / card.
If I must do this. Hotel + casa particular. Then I see it quite more expensive than for example Thailand.
25- 40 CUC is aproxm same in USD. Fair enough. But its quite cheap to buy a all inclusive trip here, but then not legal to bring in the girl hmm.
What would you recommend?
Thank you again very much for you kind answer.
Regards from Scnadinavia.It's very easy to book a casa particular on Internet and you print out the booking confirmation you will receive from the casa owner to have with your travel documents if they ask you when you arrive in Cuba. The Security at the airport have never asked me about residence. www.cubaaccomadation.com, www.casaparticular.com, www.mycasaparticular.com And tripadvisor are good sites to find a nice casa in Cuba. In Havana I have stayed in Vedado close to the streets Avendida de los Presidente / La Rampa. This is a very nice area and here I can recommend following casas; Hostal Corazon Vedado. Casavana, Martha's guesthouse, Casa Jorge Coalla Potts, Dona Clara rent and La Casa de Ana. Google this casa on internet and you will find terms and rewievs from other visitors. I'm also Scandinavian (Norwegian).
Most of the girls will be your girlfriend and show you a great time. You seem like a good guy who is respectful and wants to have a good time, so you will have a ball in Cuba. Cuba is amazing and the women are an extra. You know how you go to a museum to see ancient history and artifacts? Well, Cuba is one big museum being preserved for a limited few before it catches up with the rest of the World. Those who don't see it soon will always wonder what is was like before American money / American tourists started flowing in. Cuba will become the star of the caribbean and guys like you and I will be priced out as it explodes.
Cubans have more time than money and are proud of who they are and their country, so they will be glad to show you around. Cuba is the kind of place you leave always wondering why you didn't do more. Cuba only shows you one hole-card at a time, she teases you because she has a lot to offer and she is unique.Hello,
Thanks for the kind reply and yes.
Am afraid its true when Il commandante is gone- there wil soon be " CocaCola" all over- and in way it is maybe good for the country it wil be opened up but on the other hand. It's wil be bad for people as us here.
There is a few places I nthe world where it is amazing cheap and nice to be. Where people stil have a heart and not forget who they are. But these places is less and less every year.
I don't understand, why so many think the " western way of living" is so great? Personally I am so tired sometimes to live in EU. All is about materialistic things and prices is up up up. The humans forget to live when life is here and now.
Thank you sir.
Where are you from?
Regards from Denmark
It's very easy to book a casa particular on Internet and you print out the booking confirmation you will receive from the casa owner to have with your travel documents if they ask you when you arrive in Cuba. The Security at the airport have never asked me about residence.
www.cubaaccomadation.com
www.casaparticular.com
www.mycasaparticular.com
And tripadvisor are good sites to find a nice casa in Cuba. In Havana I have stayed in Vedado close to the streets Avendida de los Presidente / La Rampa. This is a very nice area and here I can recommend following casas; Hostal Corazon Vedado. Casavana, Martha's guesthouse, Casa Jorge Coalla Potts, Dona Clara rent and La Casa de Ana. Google this casa on internet and you will find terms and rewievs from other visitors. I'm also Scandinavian (Norwegian).Great info, but for me I took the hard route because I was very picky and cautious. If someone lives alone and is not used to average accommodations a casa particular can be scary. I rented a nice hotel for 60usd my first trip to use as a home base so I can explore the lay of the land. Luckily I met a streetwise girl who showed me the ropes my first trip.
We first had sex at a casa particular that a friend of hers owned. It was 25usd and very clean. The first problem was the shower had a switch for hot water and electricity. She explained to us not to touch anything until the power switch was off. I forgot this and touched the faucet to turn the shower off and it shocked the shit out of me. Then there is no door, just a sheet covering the door. So you had kids playing in the living room and grandpa walking past trying to get a peak inside. Then you have to share the bathroom. You get no privacy.
The second place we had sex was at another friends house. The casa owner had a ashtray full of cigs and beer cans everywhere. Not a good place. Also all the casa particulars I've been don't have safes, so trust with the casa owner is important.
Each time I visited these casas I couldn't wait to get to my private hotel room and lay on my big bed and watch the flat screen TV alone. So I had a good break in period to experience casa life before I committed. When me and my girl went casa hunting walking one day, we found the perfect casa. It had a private entrance and was a separate apartment. The casa owner was cool and private also, with only a daughter (Sorry guys but I'm keeping it to myself).
Most adds for casa particulars advertise separate apartments but they usually have master gates that the owners control. The best way for me was to actually visit these casas and make sure I wanted to stay there.
My point is that if you are not sure about casa living then stay in a hotel a couple days till you can develop and search for the perfect casa.
Last year I was in the same situation as you. After over 20 trips to Thailand and basically Pattaya I started to be little tired of the land of smile. Don't misunderstand me; Thailand is still a very good tourist destination.Both are great places, a monger life is not complete without visiting both the places at least once. I have been to both multiple times now, and here are some thoughts.
Girls.Cuba.
You get all kind in Cuba, white-black-mixed, Thailand only has the asian looks, may be the southern girls with a bit of darker shade, but pretty much all are same. The attitude and performance of cubanas in bed is more passionate. The asian slender look does have an attraction to many, some people love that asian submissive nature in bed, I take that into account, but still would say overall cubanas are better.
Accessibility. Thai.
Getting a girl in Thailand is like getting a MacD burger, and getting a girl in Cuba is like making your own burger. It is not just getting a girl, in Thailand I can take the girl to my hotel, take her with me for food, we goto a boxing match etc, no police problems any where.
Cost. Depends.
Travel cost in and out of the country will decide who is cost effective. If you are in North America then Cuba is better, from Europe both are same (thai may be cheaper) and for Australians and Asians Thai is much cheaper. You get cheap and expensive girls in both places.
Kinky. Thai.
If you want something out of the ordinary, then nothing can beat Thailand. Orgies, gangbangs, reverse gangbangs, dominant / submissive, role play you name it and you will get it including shemales and twinks if that is what you want. Getting a bunch of girls same time is no problem in Cuba, other than that everything is else too much of a hassle organizing.
Food. Thai.
Hands down, best Thai food, even if you do not like Thai cuisine, there is best food from all over, I have had best German sausage, US AAA Sirloin, Sushi, Burgers, any thing you want in Thailand. For me nothing beats the experience of banging the girl hard, and then go down the street vendor and get a hot soup, recharge, and then bang again. You also get all kinds of drinks in Thailand, even if you want a good bottle of Italian red. Ok, cigars are cheap in Cuba, guess what you get them in Thailand too.
Health. Cuba.
You never know what is inside a girls body, even if she looks very healthy. Cuba seem to have a good health care system, and I hear that if someone has communicable disease then they will not let that person walk away from hospital till cured. This may not be true, but all cubans look really healthy. Thailand is tropical too, so there are things to be concerned about even if it is relatively better than other Asian places and much better than Africa.
Safety. Cuba.
Never felt unsafe anywhere I went in Cuba, any time of the day. Thailand is safe too, but you can get into trouble.
Others. Cuba / Thailand.
The music and dance in Cuba itself is worth the trip. The Thai massage and getting a cheap or fake Rolex or designer stuff is worth the trip there too.
I can go on and write more, the bottom line is, both are good. It depends on individual taste and needs.
Both are great places, a monger life is not complete without visiting both the places at least once. I have been to both multiple times now, and here are some thoughts.
Girls. Cuba.
You get all kind in Cuba, white-black-mixed, Thailand only has the asian looks, may be the southern girls with a bit of darker shade, but pretty much all are same. The attitude and performance of cubanas in bed is more passionate. The asian slender look does have an attraction to many, some people love that asian submissive nature in bed, I take that into account, but still would say overall cubanas are better.
Accessibility. Thai.Great comparision. I wonder if someone could give a similar information for Cuba vs Colombia (specially Medellin).
I have gone to Cuba three times and have had excellent time there with very nice girls and GFE, but for the next vacations I would like
To try something else. Thai is to far for me. But I have seen in this forums lots of reports for Medellin.
Had anyone who know both places can give a comparision like this.
Thanks
Travel2040
01-13-14, 18:48
Both are great places, a monger life is not complete without visiting both the places at least once. I have been to both multiple times now, and here are some thoughts.
Girls. Cuba.
You get all kind in Cuba, white-black-mixed, Thailand only has the asian looks, may be the southern girls with a bit of darker shade, but pretty much all are same. The attitude and performance of cubanas in bed is more passionate. The asian slender look does have an attraction to many, some people love that asian submissive nature in bed, I take that into account, but still would say overall cubanas are better..Totally agree! Your comparison is very good.
Hi all. Just got back from nine days in Cuba. I stayed in Havana the whole time, as my prime interest was in Music and Dance (though I found time for chicas as well!). In general I had a good trip.
I stayed in a Casa in Vedado the whole time and I generally liked it. However, if one has the time, I like Gogo's idea of getting a hotel first then looking at Casas in person. My Casa was decent and the family was nice. However, I felt a bit weird waking them up at 1 am when I brought back girls (to give them the girls I'd which is generally req'd). And the bed wasn't the most supportive for lots of fucking. The place was 35CUC a night plus 5 for an excellent breakfast. If I returned, I'd absolutely be willing to pay more for more luxury (though I'm not sure that's available staying with a family).
If one has an interest in Afro-Latin Music and Dance as I do, Havana is a treasure. I saw (live) Los Van Van, Habana the'Primera, Maykel Blanco, and Charanga Habanera as well as several less well-known bands. Matinees are great at places like Casa de Musica (both). And the quality of dancing is excellent.
My Casa was a block away from Salon Rojo. Unfortunately, there had just been a crackdown and unaccompanied women weren't being allowed into the place. However, the whole area had lots of women walking around and obviously available. I picked up two from the little cafe directly across the street. Also lots of excllent "paladars" in the area for great and affordable meals.
If you go, make sure to visit La Cecelia in Miramar. The quality of talent there was the best I've seen anywhere outside of maybe Cafe Foto in Sao Paulo. And the performance of the girls was in general very good. This place is almost worth a visit to Cuba in itself! They are only open on Friday and Saturday.
My last visit to Cuba was in 2001, shortly after the "crackdown" began. I had been contemplating going back since, but was always dissuaded by the treatment of the girls as well as the difficulty in getting there for a US Citizen. These two drawbacks still remain and are the reason I'm not planning another trip soon. Cuba is an incredibly interesting and worthwhile trip. But for the average monger with limited travel time, Colombian and the DR probably make more sense right now.
Can't think of anything else, but if you have questions, I'll try to answer.
BrasilSoccer0
01-14-14, 06:33
Been to both Cuba and Colombia, primarily Medellin. Lived in Medellin for 3-6months a couple of times.
In Cuba, I prefer camaguey. Never took to Havana and it's hustle and agitation.
I like to stay with a couple of great nonpros than fuck scores of robots! If you get what I'm saying. That being said:
Hands down for me the sex is better, hotter, intensely more gratifying with cubanas.
Cubanas are free from the Catholic Church and have no mental or emotional chains telling her this is wrong! Viva Fidel. LOL.
Cubanas at least the ones I met are not spoiled by the lovely American / western pop culture. So there is still some innocence to them. Cubanas don't have too much to do, so they will be available for you with much fewer excuses and ALWAYS on time. LOL.
Paisas are not as completely relaxed. You'll need more time invested to get her to give you 100% in the bed. Also, because of their bloody recent history and the constant threat of violence, the girls are constantly on the defense. Starting up a conversation with a Paisa on the street / bus stop or wherever is not the same as with a cubana.
Paisas have the means to exercise promiscuity and trust me, as sweet as they appear, they will hop local men to get whatever they can get from each man.
As far as beauty, that's all relative. To me, they all are beautiful. And they both carry variety in color. Medellin though has more meatier girls than Cuba.
But Medellin is heaven. If not just for the pretty girls, then for the heavenly weather, scenery and the great services everywhere! Something Cuba lacks.
Also, in Medellin there are LOTS of things to do with your chica and places to go. Lots of near by small towns and activities.
No cops to worry about.
To sum it up, if you have a couple of weeks and all you want is to drain your balls with TON of p4p and have fun experiencing the city then defiantly MEDELLIN.
If you want to have the best GFE in the world and have a girl who is willing to please you and be pleased with no inhibition, then CUBA.
PS. If you are serious about going to Medellin, I forbid you doing so before reading my posts in the Medellin and photo threads.
Great comparision. I wonder if someone could give a similar information for Cuba vs Colombia (specially Medellin).
I have gone to Cuba three times and have had excellent time there with very nice girls and GFE, but for the next vacations I would like
To try something else. Thai is to far for me. But I have seen in this forums lots of reports for Medellin.
Had anyone who know both places can give a comparision like this.
Thanks
great report brasil. i've been to medellin 3 times and cuba four, so here's my take.
the girls in medellin are drop-dead gorgeous but they accessorize way too much for me. fake tits and excessive make-up are plentiful. braces and fashionable dress are popular. cubanas are natural and basic but are still beautiful. colombian girls can't pass a mirror without looking into it and fixing something they don't feel is right.
medellin is not safe outside the tourist spots like parque lleras, cuba is completely safe. my first trip i went with a few guys. one guy was a 60yo white beach bum who only wore sandal, shorts, and a "key west" tank top. on more than one occasion where he drifted off, we had to come save him as he was headed for trouble with some colombian dudes. medellin has many traps for a newbie. my next 3 trips i went solo and followed all my strictest security codes. i never caught a cab outside a club that was waiting. first, i would step around a corner to see if anyone peeks around it looking for me and then i would catch a cab in the opposite direction on the other side of the street. i would go to lunas luneras, faze2, and sandiego strip clubs every night but would only have one beer before exiting then double back if i felt comfortable there before. drugs are everywhere in medellin.
when i was there it rained everyday for a few minutes, cuba is hot. medellin is a beautiful city that does have many things to do, but i prefer cuba. the safety factor limits what you can do in medellin. sante fe mall and trips on the metro to the san antonio bazar got old. i couldn't walk all over medellin solo without taking a risk. cuba is open territory and everyday is a history lesson, and you can go anywhere and be safe.
the sex with the cubans is a "throw back" to real passionate sex. they hump you back, they put tongues in your ears and they whisper sweet things while you are humping them. the cuban girls will make you stop first. i always felt the medellin girls were acting, even though they were very sweet.
for medellin being such a small city, taxis don't know where shit is, in cuba they know everywhere. i could never fully trust a colombian guy because i've heard bad stories about them setting people up, but then again i don't trust any foreign guys when i travel lol. just my take.
Travel2040
01-14-14, 18:48
www.cuba-junky.com Is also a very good site to find nice casa in Cuba. Here it's also noticed if the casa is independend or have an own private entrance. The site also have apps for iPhone, IPad and android.
I agree with much of what BrasilSoccer and Mr Gogo wrote.
I would say Cubanas are better in bed than Colombians (though neither comes close to Brasilieras!). Added to that, I find all the fake tits and asses in MDE and Cali to be ridiculous. In Cuba, the girls are natural, and as BrasilSoccer says, not spoiled as much by Western images.
Having said that, MDE (and Cali and Cartagena) are much more convenient to stay in than Cuba. You don't have to worry about hiding from the police. You can walk to a fully stocked grocery store or mall that has just about everything you could get in the USA You can use your ATM to get cash instead of having to bring $2K in cash (for USA citizens at least). You can stay in a nice hotel or apartment with a comfortable sturdy bed and bring girls in with no hassle.
I never occurred to me, but BS is right, every appointment I had with a girl in Havana, she was right on time. Unusual in L. America and unusual for prepagos in general.
Cuba is fun and certainly interesting, but it takes more work than other mongering destinations.
WaterTraveller
01-15-14, 08:20
Just doing a bit of reading and would like to put in 2 cents.
Havana and Cuba are relatively safe and the safest latin country I've visited but guys don't let your guard down.
I've spent aprox 15 months in Cuba in the last 3 yrs and things do happen in Cuba especially Havana.
Won't get into details but I've experience attempt thievery on 3 occasion and friends have also.
Just don't get loose and do something you wouldn't in other countries and don't advertise you should be alright.
Havana is changing fast.
Will be going on my first trip to Colombia, Ecuador and Peru in April for 3 months.
Thanks to all who posted info, although my Spanish is getting quite good I am slowly get away from working girl house and pick up places this info will come in handy for dry spells.
Thanks
BrasilSoccer0
01-15-14, 10:37
Couldn't agree more. I hope we never lift the embargo, otherwise it will be worse than Costa rica and Panama.
BTY guys, if you love Cuba, I know of another Cuba but with pure white pretty girls: like 5:1 girls to boys ratio. And the girls there are even sweeter and very feminine. They like to find boyfriends and husbands. And best of all, almost nobody knows about them!
This other Cuba is Transnistria. You can rent a fully furnished apartment for 150-500USD with $250 being the common rent per month.
It's not a sex tourist destination. It's a hidden sex destination. I wish it was closer.
BS.
If I'm not mistaken, there's a travel embargo against Transnitria. At least for men between 15 and 85.
AnonWorldTravl
01-17-14, 00:34
I will be in Havana for a week in March. Staying at the Nacional which I have already heard is a problem for bringing back company. Which clubs, bars etc have the hottest chicks and what are local prices like. FYI I am very familiar with Thailand and South America.
Thank you!
I will be in Havana for a week in March. Staying at the Nacional which I have already heard is a problem for bringing back company. Which clubs, bars etc have the hottest chicks and what are local prices like. FYI I am very familiar with Thailand and south America.
Thank you!In my past I would've jumped all over a first time poster who hasn't read the forums past pages, but I'm a nice Gogo these days. First you say you want quality, then you say you want the hottest chicks. Personally I don't equate quality with hotness. If you are very familiar with Thailand and South America, perhaps it would have been nice if you had shared your past experiences with the forum. Since this is your first post on the ISG forum, my advice is to be safe and good luck.
BrasilSoccer0
01-17-14, 10:39
Combo,
It is not even a country so what you said is N / A because it dosen't have an international airport.
But it does have a similar eco embargo, hence the similarity with Cuba.
Just read about it. If you are looking for a real girlfriend / wife I think it's the best destination.
Just to stay relavent to this thread, pm me!
BS.
If I'm not mistaken, there's a travel embargo against Transnitria. At least for men between 15 and 85.
AnonWorldTravl
01-17-14, 16:45
In my past I would've jumped all over a first time poster who hasn't read the forums past pages, but I'm a nice Gogo these days. First you say you want quality, then you say you want the hottest chicks. Personally I don't equate quality with hotness. If you are very familiar with Thailand and South America, perhaps it would have been nice if you had shared your past experiences with the forum. Since this is your first post on the ISG forum, my advice is to be safe and good luck.My experiences throughout Thailand have take me from Bangkok, to Pattaya and Phuket. I am familiar with the "soapy / sudsy" hotel style brothels where the girls sit behind glass and you pick exactly who you want, pay, and venture upstairs to your "hotel room" Great experience by the way. Also the outdoor beer bar girls, where you pay the bar fine and again pick who you want very openly and leave very openly and spend the evening together. Same with the gogo bars, pay the fine and leave. In south America, Uruguay specifically has descent brothels. Buenos Aires had incall service.
So back to my original question and to be more specific does Havana have a similar set up? Regarding quality, what I mean is attractive girls in their 20s, providing GFE. Also which locations are safer with regard to both the potential for crime against me and my group and also dealing with authorities.
Thank you!
I agree with MrGoGo but I'm nicer these days too.
Your question: So back to my original question and to be more specific does Havana have a similar set up?
Your answer: Absolutely not. Not even remotely. No beer gardens, no go-go clubs, no brothels, etc. This is not a "point and click" place like where you describe. If you don't speak Spanish, and know where to hunt, and are willing to play "cat and mouse" with authorities, you will be deeply disappointed. As far as safety is concerned, Cuba is statistically the safest place in the Western Hemisphere.
My experiences throughout Thailand have take me from Bangkok, to Pattaya and Phuket. I am familiar with the "soapy / sudsy" hotel style brothels where the girls sit behind glass and you pick exactly who you want, pay, and venture upstairs to your "hotel room" Great experience by the way. Also the outdoor beer bar girls, where you pay the bar fine and again pick who you want very openly and leave very openly and spend the evening together. Same with the gogo bars, pay the fine and leave. In south America, Uruguay specifically has descent brothels. Buenos Aires had incall service.
So back to my original question and to be more specific does Havana have a similar set up? Regarding quality, what I mean is attractive girls in their 20s, providing GFE. Also which locations are safer with regard to both the potential for crime against me and my group and also dealing with authorities.
Thank you!
I will be in Havana for a week in March. Staying at the Nacional which I have already heard is a problem for bringing back company. Which clubs, bars etc have the hottest chicks and what are local prices like. FYI I am very familiar with Thailand and south America.
Thank you!I have a response and a few questions. I suggest you spend some time reading the forum, going as far back as 6 months, in Havana and beyond, as we all know there are lessons to be learnt that apply to all of Cuba. RTFF first then come back with follow up questions. You will be there in March, so you have plenty of time to read up.
Secondly, I have a question. If you are so familiar with Thailand and South America, how come you have no reports on this site? This subject has come up for discussion before. Plenty of people come here for information when planning their trips, but never give back by posting reports. I don't know why you never posted here about your previous trips, maybe you had not discovered this site, I will not presume that you were selfish. That said, I hope you will report on your experiences in Cuba.
Why is it guys treat these forums like a help desk?
Ok, I get it if it's your first monger trip ever. We're all excited for you as well. But if you gathered info here, you should leave some for the next guy following behind you.
I have a question. If you are so familiar with Thailand and South America, how come you have no reports on this site? This subject has come up for discussion before. Plenty of people come here for information when planning their trips, but never give back by posting reports. I don't know why you never posted here about your previous trips, maybe you had not discovered this site, I will not presume that you were selfish. That said, I hope you will report on your experiences in Cuba.
My experiences throughout Thailand have take me from Bangkok, to Pattaya and Phuket.When you land in Havana, first thing you need to do is to erase the Thai mongering methods from your memory. It simply does not help you in Havana. People, politics, culture everything is different.
Havana has the discos such as Casa de la Musica, Salon Rojo etc. These are the best bets for a first timer. When you goto these discos, do not compare them to the Gogo bars. A gogo bar has girls working there, they have a number, there is a bar fine, and if the girl does not do it right or steal something then you can come back to the gogo and complain.
There is no such thing in Havana discos. The chicas come here on their own, same like you go there. It is only a convenient meeting place. You decide who you want to go with, negotiate the cost with her. Often it is the easier part.
Ok, so you made it to the disco / club, found a girl of your liking and negotiated the cost. What next? In Thailand you will walk away with her, hand in hand, might stop in another bar for a drink with her, or have a seat on the road side and get something to eat from the street vendor and then goto your hotel room and bang her. None of this works in Havana.
The Havana girl is not going to walk with you in the street. You will rush into a taxi with her, or she might even ask you to go in a taxi and she in another taxi (you pay for that too). If you are staying in a private casa, your owner in most cases will allow you to bring a girl, however she might have to register. In Thailand, she would simply leave the I'd in reception and take it back with her when all is done. Here the casa owner will write her I'd number along with your stay details. Some say it goes to law enforcement, some say no. It all depends. If you are in good terms with the casa owner or the chica is good with the casa owner then there is no registration. To make it simple, you might want to ask her whether she knows a place, she definitely will. It will cost you 10-20-30 cucs depending on how good the place is and how long you want to stay.
All this would make you think it is all a big hassle and why bothering going to Havana?
Once you reach the casa, and shut the door. Be nice to the chica, treat her with respect, give her some small gift, be generous with drink, food and money. All in a sudden you will be in heaven. Play some reggageton, she will start moving the hips, tell her to strip for you, most will, get up and hold her from behind, her grinding will work better than Viagara, and then tell her to ride you. You will then know all the hassle is worth it.
As a first timer, befriend your first chica. She will be your guide for next nights.
Unlike Thailand, most women are a game in Cuba. I do not goto the discos / clubs. Even if you give me money, I will not go there. Even if the chicas are free, I will not go there because I am not going to Cuba for that easy meat. For me, the thrill is in the hunt. I am not a master of Cuba yet, there are folks in this forum who are way ahead of me. However I have tried my game, solicited every where, and banged unknown chicas such as a pharmacist, the girl who was selling tourist souvenirs, the girl who works in my dental clinic, sisters of my driver etc. I treated this old man with respect and took care of him, he brought me his grand daughter. In my last trip, I landed in Varadero and was taking bus to a hotel in Playa del este. My flight was the last one, and an attractive immigration officer took the bus to her town, Matanzas. She was in the bus for only 15-20 minutes, and I could get her home number and will try it next time I am there.
Now keep in mind, I am not a good looking guy, just an average Joe, I do not know Spanish, just a few words here and there, but willing to work hard in my game, it works most of the time. There are nights I will goto sleep alone in Cuba, some would say it is being stupid. I am ok with that, as I know what I want and willing to wait.
AnonWorldTravl
01-20-14, 03:22
I have a response and a few questions. I suggest you spend some time reading the forum, going as far back as 6 months, in Havana and beyond, as we all know there are lessons to be learnt that apply to all of Cuba. RTFF first then come back with follow up questions. You will be there in March, so you have plenty of time to read up.
Secondly, I have a question. If you are so familiar with Thailand and South America, how come you have no reports on this site? This subject has come up for discussion before. Plenty of people come here for information when planning their trips, but never give back by posting reports. I don't know why you never posted here about your previous trips, maybe you had not discovered this site, I will not presume that you were selfish. That said, I hope you will report on your experiences in Cuba.I was not aware of this site. Also, I traveled to those locations with friends who were already very familiar with how things work. I'm going it alone on this trip.
AnonWorldTravl
01-20-14, 18:54
When you land in Havana, first thing you need to do is to erase the Thai mongering methods from your memory. It simply does not help you in Havana. People, politics, culture everything is different.
Havana has the discos such as Casa de la Musica, Salon Rojo etc. These are the best bets for a first timer. When you goto these discos, do not compare them to the Gogo bars. A gogo bar has girls working there, they have a number, there is a bar fine, and if the girl does not do it right or steal something then you can come back to the gogo and complain.
There is no such thing in Havana discos. The chicas come here on their own, same like you go there. It is only a convenient meeting place. You decide who you want to go with, negotiate the cost with her. Often it is the easier part.
Ok, so you made it to the disco / club, found a girl of your liking and negotiated the cost. What next? In Thailand you will walk away with her, hand in hand, might stop in another bar for a drink with her, or have a seat on the road side and get something to eat from the street vendor and then goto your hotel room and bang her. None of this works in Havana.
The Havana girl is not going to walk with you in the street. You will rush into a taxi with her, or she might even ask you to go in a taxi and she in another taxi (you pay for that too). If you are staying in a private casa, your owner in most cases will allow you to bring a girl, however she might have to register. In Thailand, she would simply leave the I'd in reception and take it back with her when all is done. Here the casa owner will write her I'd number along with your stay details. Some say it goes to law enforcement, some say no. It all depends. If you are in good terms with the casa owner or the chica is good with the casa owner then there is no registration. To make it simple, you might want to ask her whether she knows a place, she definitely will. It will cost you 10-20-30 cucs depending on how good the place is and how long you want to stay...Tobac,
You sir are a gentleman! Thank you for your honest and to the point description of Havana! I thank you in advance as I trust your advice. To the rest of the members I will provide as much info as possible once I return!
Thank you again!
BrasilSoccer0
01-21-14, 07:52
I would say that sums it up.
I would add if you are new to Cuba, you'll be tested to pay more on EVERYTHING. You'll have to put things in there proper perspective and remember the economic picture of Cuba. That should give you an idea of how much to pay.
NEVER compare with other prices in your other trips and certainly with your western country.
Now, let me narrate my experience which BTW is detailed in my report in WSA before I found out about ISG:
While in camaguey I met a medical student by the medical science college and to make this short and to the point, I went days later inside the school. I went in the dormitories where all the smaller town and villages' female students live 5 days out of the week while in school. And I was shocked at the living conditions: Rust, mold, and paint chippings everywhere! Bunk beds WORSE than prison bunks! The restrooms flooded with water WALL TO WALL up to the ankles! I couldn't believe it.
These girls had no choice! They were glad at least they were accepted to medical school and hope one day they'll be again lucky to be chosen by their government to work abroad. So you can imagine how happy they were when I showed up.
These girls were so happy I offered them a couple of days off from the hellish lifestyle they were in. I gave a decent, safe place with home cooked meals. With me in my room they had peace and quite, some privacy, no theft of their stuff and a kind gentle man with whom they can share a sweet moment in life.
They were content with 10-20cuc for all nighter because of their reality, NOT the world's! And because of all the aforementioned that most of us mongers take for granted because we have excess of it.
The best thing a newbie or any monger with an open mind can do to help him understand what is Cuba and cubanas really all about is to talk to the girls in a humble way and ask them about their lives and just listen! Not by reading what other mongers tell you. Ask smart insightful questions like: What was it like growing up, is father in their lives? What do they DREAM about? How they feel about their country? About the world? How did they picture their lives as an adult? How do they feel about men like us? Yes these questions!
Not, how much for all night? Do you know other friends who want to make money? Do you do anal? These questions will get you to unlock few doors. The former will unlock all doors and ones you didn't think existed in the first place.
And just like Taboc, I too went to bed alone because as with any good hunting, sometimes you'll succeed and other times you won't. And I can't stand professional jineteras!
When you land in Havana, . as I know what I want and willing to wait.
I second that Brasil. Tabocs post was on point. What I liked the most was him talking about befriending a chic and having her show you the ropes. Cubanas love to show off their country and culture.
Legal Tender
01-21-14, 15:53
The best thing a newbie or any monger with an open mind can do to help him understand what is Cuba and cubanas really all about is to talk to the girls in a humble way and ask them about their lives and just listen! Not by reading what other mongers tell you. Ask smart insightful questions like: What was it like growing up, is father in their lives? What do they DREAM about? How they feel about their country? About the world? How did they picture their lives as an adult? How do they feel about men like us? Yes these questions!
Not, how much for all night? Do you know other friends who want to make money? Do you do anal? These questions will get you to unlock few doors. The former will unlock all doors and ones you didn't think existed in the first place.Sage advice! And, a little sincere interest in the lives of these girls will not only be more productive in "unlocking" some doors, but the sex will be much better and when you leave to return to your reality, you will feel much better about yourself. It's karma, amigos.
Only good energy!
I will begin telling the story with the characters, we all found out we were user of this forum and other ones that made this trip posible.
I have been going to Cuba for around 5 years, in total more then 130 trip so I know Havana quite well, the funny fact is that I always stay in my apartment but whenever I want to party I ended up looking up Jonesie casa advice since 4 years ago and thanks to him I have been staying in Alberto house but I have never encounter more mongers until November if you read Alejandro casa reviews you will understand that people always leave the door open of the elevator and it won't move until they close the door correctly, that how I met the first monger which turn out to know Jonesie from el castillo, at first I was pissed off because of him the door was stuck on the 16 floor, one floor from where I was staying, he came down the stairs to tell me the elevator was stuck..Best report I have read so far on Havana! Big thanks from my side!
i just came back from havana 3 days ago, i've been here many many times before and pretty much know what to expect, here's a brief run down of this particular trip.
thursday: arrived late due to flight delay, checked into tropicoco and only had enough time to make it to guanabo. went to cabaret guanimar and it had closed early, walked over to tokio, there were some people there but none of the chicas caught my eye. went back to the hotel, saw a cute brunette at the lobby bar, gave her the "look". followed by the "nod", she smiled, i went over told her my room number and walked away. 5 mins later there was a knock on my door and there she was. she came in but i was way too tired to fuck as i had not slept in the last 26 hours. so i just told her to give me a "chupa mas rapido". blew my load, gave her a nice pair of sexy tights (didn't have any cuc because the cadeca was closed at the airport) she was very happy with my compensation, gave me her # and left. i fell asleep immediately thereafter.
friday: went into havana in the daytime with my friends, rented a casa for the weekend, grab the keys, walked around, spoke to some cuties, then went back to tropicoco for dinner. after dinner we went into guanabo to check out the locals but it was too early and most of the chicas were still at home getting ready for the big night. we then left for havana and went to the copa room at the riviera hotel, it was closed. we then went to don cangrejo, there was a whopping 20 people there. so far the night was a bust! we then decided to head back to guanabo and hit up guanimar. when we got there it was pretty dead but we managed to score 3 chicas. i grabbed a cute 19 year old that spoke some english and headed back to my hotel. when i got to the hotel there were 2 female security on duty and they weren't letting any chicas in the building. so i headed to a local casa and had a great time with my girl till 7am. this girl was down for everything, bbbj, cim, msog, mp, etc. very sensual and some very good sex. she wanted to stay until the afternoon but i just wanted to go back to my hotel and sleep.
saturday: went to salon embajadores at the tryp havana libre hotel, it was closed! then went to las canitas on the other floor. it was also closed! at this point it was getting late so we once again decided to head back to guanimar because a very popular reggaeton group / artist named jacob was performing and it was supposed to be packed with tons of chicas. we got there and it was only about 2/3 full, these chicas really don't like cold weather. anyway, ran into the same girl from the previous night so i decided to kick it with her again because she was a fun girl, the sex was really good and she had promised to do anal the next time i saw her. so off we went!
sunday: hit the beach, went into centro havana, copped a cute 18 year old, took her back to my havana casa for some daytime lovin'. nice tight little body with blond hair down to her waist, shaved pussy with glistening pink lips that were almost translucent. lol. bj started good but her teeth kept scraping my pinga, so i bent her over and drilled her doggy style while pulling on those long blond locks of hers. she was really tight, more so than usual for a cubana and by the way she was acting i think she was new to the game. she seemed really lost and somewhat naive. i gave her $25 cuc and a bottle of body spray and she was very happy.
later that night we went to casa de la musica galiano and boy did we feel like rock stars. when we walked in about 30 chicas swarmed our table, i was wearing a suit and was escorted into the club in front of all the people waiting in line and was given the best table in the house. guess they thought i was somebody important so i just went along with it. much to my benefit. lol. at one point it got way too aggressive, the chicas were pushing each other out of the way trying to jockey for position. it actually started to turn me off so i decided to go walk around the club. hungry eyes everywhere, every move i made there was a chica trying to intercept me, i went to the back bar and i was sexually assaulted by a brunette. lol. it got so bad i told her i was gay just so that she would leave me alone, but no luck, she said she didn't believe me. at this point one of my friends came over to "rescue" me and he said he was leaving with a chica. i looked over at his "date", a chubby fake blond with crooked teeth. different strokes for different folks i guess. lol. my other friend scored a really cute redhead with a fit body, he said he would wait for me until i was ready. i spotted 2 pretty girls at a table by the entrance, a beautiful brown skin girl with dyed blond hair, a flat tummy, round ass, small frame and nice tits. the other girl was her friend, she was a tiny thing with curly black hair, cute little body and glasses. she looked kinda like a pretty nerd you would find in the library. lol. anyway, they didn't want to separate so they told me i had to take both of them. it was 2:30 at this point and i told them i only have $60 cuc, they whispered to each other then looked at me and nodded. i gave my friend the signal and off the 5 of us went to our casa 6 blocks away. my blond was 20 and the librarian had just turned 18. guess blondie was showing her the ropes.
when we got back to the casa these girls didn't waste any time, they took a shower, undressed me and we hopped into bed. the blond took the lead and the librarian emulated her every move. it was funny, cute, sexy and sensual all at the same time. what the librarian lacked in experience she more than made up for with enthusiasm and passion. she was a genuinely horny girl, she let me take her any way i wanted and was quite the screamer. i felt sorry for the 3 elderly dutch couples staying in the rooms down the hall (this casa had 6 rooms, my friends and i occupied 3 of them) i don't think they got any sleep that night. and neither did i. lol. the 3 of us fell asleep around 8am, i was dead tired, these girls drained all the liquid out of me.
i woke up around 2:15pm, the blond was snuggled up under my right arm and the librarian was between my legs licking my balls while staring up at me with a wicked wicked smile on her face. what a way to wake up! it was so surreal i thought i was still sleeping and this was just a dream. but that thought soon dissipated when she gave me a little "love bite" on the head of my dick. that sure woke me the fuck up! she then crawled up, put a condom on me, straddled my dick and started riding me like it was the kentucky derby. by this time the blond had woken up and decided to join in the festivities. she went to the bathroom, brushed her teeth, came back and started kissing my neck, licking my ear, kissing and licking all over my body as she made her way down to my balls. she kissed my inner thighs and started licking my balls as the librarian was riding me. it took every ounce of will power for me to hold back from cumming. the librarian started grinding me harder and faster and then let out a scream as she came all over me. she collapsed on my chest and then rolled over on the bed. the blond then looked at me and said in spanish "it's now my turn" and giggled. she then got on top of me in reverse cowgirl and went to town. as i looked down all i could see was her perfectly round firm ass bouncing up and down on my dick. after about 7 minutes i couldn't hold back any longer and i unloaded with a loud grunt. lol. she kept on riding on my semi-soft pinga until she came. fucking insane!
to be continued.
The "good" days of Cuba ended over 10 years ago. You old-timers know what I mean. Those were the days when for $20US (they were still using American dollars) you could find a "nice" girl anywhere, in any city, spend the night with her, bang her 2-3 times and she'd clean your room before she left. Now, its pretty much confined to a few places in and near Havana and they are all pros asking for $100CUC.
One of the benefits of spending so much time there over so many years is that you establish friendships and relationships. Now, its all just a phone call away to old friends who if they can't come, will send a cousin or a neighbor. This trip, I told them all that if their ass wasn't in the equation, don't bother. All responded with Greek and swallow (as is normal with Cubanas).
I'm not saying Cuba isn't fun, but reading all these recent posts, it seems there are easier places to go for newbies (unless you want hard core pros who want $100US).
Viva la revolucion!
Small But Hard
02-07-14, 08:57
Hi guys,
I am currently living in Cancun for the last 3 months and have decided to head to Cuba end of February for my birthday.
I haven't written any reports from Mexico because somehow I always manage to get non pro girls.
Probably because I speak fluent Spanish and I'm Italian, Mexicanas love Italians.
I will go to Cuba only a week so to be able to have some fun I will surely have to spend some dollars. But I hate wasting them.
I read back up to 7 pages of Havana forum, I'm not a newbie so I know I must read as much as possible before asking.
I read that it's best to have a casa particular with 'tolerant' owners if we want to take in some chicas.
Some wrote to get a hotel first and then find a casa particular in person.
But if you already have positive experience, why not share with fellow mongers?
From what I read Alejandro house was recommended (not sure if it is the one I found on internet though 'Apartment Alejandro. Vedado rentals')
Travel 2020 also listed a number of sites and a few names (Hostal Corazon Vedado. Casavana, Martha's guesthouse, Casa Jorge Coalla Potts, Dona Clara rent and La Casa de Ana)
Have you been in all of them personally?
What I am asking is just a couple of 100% sure casas particulares that are not too expensive, comfortable and are tolerant if we bring chicas in.
I also read that going to Casa de Musica and salon Rojo is good for finding Chicas.
Do you recommend other places where you can find semi or non pros?
When I travel I usually try to test my charm but will not return empty handed and put my hands into my wallet when necessary.
Thank you for any help you can give.
But if you already have positive experience, why not share with fellow mongers?I think there is a hesitancy in listing casa names in the forum that are tolerant. A number of casas that allow chicas in without registration are doing so by breaking the rules, and listing their names is only going to put them in trouble. The same goes for chicas. When I write a report, I want to at least write the chica name, and then realize how much trouble she can get into and do not mention it.
If you have PM, then you can expect someone to share more information with you. But then again, no one really knows who you are, so not sure whether that will happen too.
Here is the positive side. You know Spanish well and already staying in Mexico and is willing to spend $, so I do not see a problem. This is what I would recommend.
1. Take a cheap hotel. If you like playa go to Tropicoco, it is far from the city ($3 non stop bus or $15-20 taxi from Havana). It is right across from the playa. Or take a cheap casa in Havana, as cheap as possible. It is only to keep your luggage and search for a casa that would allow you to bring in chicas.
2. Get out and use your Spanish skills to engage taxi drivers to show you casas and then negotiate. I am sure you will find one within no time.
3. Even if you book a casa before landing, it does not mean it is going to be there for you 100, so there is no harm in landing and then finding a casa.
4. The clubs you mentioned are all good, but expect to spend $$$. With your Spanish skills you can score good ones outside too, it can take time. Everyone is game there, even in front of their family, just be respectful and caring.
Bottom line, don't let this casa thing bother you too much, It is the much easier part. Enjoy the trip.
Does security allow chicas into Tropicoco. Is there a change since the crack down?
I just came back from Havana 3 days ago, I've been here many many times before and pretty much know what to expect, here's a brief run down of this particular trip.
Thursday: Arrived late due to flight delay, checked into Tropicoco and only had enough time to make it to Guanabo. Went to Cabaret Guanimar and it had closed early, walked over to Tokio, there were some people there but none of the chicas caught my eye. Went back to the hotel, saw a cute brunette at the lobby bar, gave her the "look". Followed by the "nod", she smiled, I went over told her my room number and walked away. 5 mins later there was a knock on my door and there she was. She came in but I was way too tired to fuck as I had not slept in the last 26 hours. So I just told her to give me a "chupa mas rapido". Blew my load, gave her a nice pair of sexy tights (didn't have any CUC because the Cadeca was closed at the airport) she was very happy with my compensation, gave me her # and left...
Kalifornication
02-10-14, 00:34
Beautiful casa in terms of comfort. The owner is a friend of mine. Two bedrooms, living room, two bathrooms, full kitchen. The owner has his own apartment in the building. You get the key to the apartment and its yours, no pesky in-house landlord watching your every move. He is renting one bedroom for $35 and will not rent out the other room. Or, two rooms for $60. The building is across from the Hotel National.
I think there is a hesitancy in listing casa names in the forum that are tolerant. A number of casas that allow chicas in without registration are doing so by breaking the rules, and listing their names is only going to put them in trouble. The same goes for chicas. When I write a report, I want to at least write the chica name, and then realize how much trouble she can get into and do not mention it.
If you have PM, then you can expect someone to share more information with you. But then again, no one really knows who you are, so not sure whether that will happen too.
Here is the positive side. You know Spanish well and already staying in Mexico and is willing to spend $, so I do not see a problem. This is what I would recommend.
1. Take a cheap hotel. If you like playa go to Tropicoco, it is far from the city ($3 non stop bus or $15-20 taxi from Havana). It is right across from the playa. Or take a cheap casa in Havana, as cheap as possible. It is only to keep your luggage and search for a casa that would allow you to bring in chicas.
2. Get out and use your Spanish skills to engage taxi drivers to show you casas and then negotiate. I am sure you will find one within no time.
3. Even if you book a casa before landing, it does not mean it is going to be there for you 100, so there is no harm in landing and then finding a casa.
4. The clubs you mentioned are all good, but expect to spend $$$. With your Spanish skills you can score good ones outside too, it can take time. Everyone is game there, even in front of their family, just be respectful and caring.
Bottom line, don't let this casa thing bother you too much, It is the much easier part. Enjoy the trip.
Kalifornication.
What's the name or contact for that Casa? I stayed in that area in January and really liked the location (even though Salon Rojo was enduring a crackdown).
Kalifornication.
What's the name or contact for that Casa? I stayed in that area in January and really liked the location (even though Salon Rojo was enduring a crackdown).With all due respect to everyone involved, this should be handled via PM to protect the casa owner (and our good thing). We all know from staying in Cuba previously how protective the casa owners are of their business. We never know if this board is being monitored.
If you are running several girls a day into a casa, word gets out quickly. Police and cameras are everywhere in Havana. Its a cat and mouse game you have to play concerning the police and casa owners. Its best to have a regular girl to ease the casa owners reservations about your intentions, then use a casa the girls you pick up on the streets have for side shit. Then once you develop a trust with certain girls, slide her into the home rotation, therefore the owners can relax knowing your judgement is good. Don't expose your hand too soon, thats a mistake I think most guys make. I'm seeing on this board too many guys that are going down there being complete dogs not caring, the key is to slide in real slick and smooth. The casa owner has more to lose than you do, but we also should respect that. The system there is designed to keep us from doing it the way we want to do it, so you have to adjust to make it happen your way, but it takes time.
Does security allow chicas into Tropicoco. Is there a change since the crack down?Yes they do. Except when the female security boss is on duty.
I find the security is getting greedy and meaner at Tropicoco. Instead of paying these jerks $20 for a couple hours I decided to let the girls check into their own rooms.
There is a travel agent in the lobby to the left of the main entrance as you enter the building from the street. She wears a red uniform and sits at a desk right there. She sells excursion and show packages BUT she also rents out rooms to the locals for $38 CUC for 24 hours.
I just give the chicas the money, they rent the room, get their bracelet and away we go. Full on action day and night. The girls don't even end up seeing or using their room, they just come and stay with me in mine. Very convenient, a lot cheaper than checking them directly into my room (this costs $60 CUC. Go figure) and it avoids any problems they may have with the Police because they are technically not with a tourist.
Some of you may want to explore this option (if you haven't already done so) as the chicas prefer the Pool over the beach and they eat and drink on the premises. Which saves you money by not having to take them to restaurants and not having to pay for 2 of those private taxi scum suckers. You know the drill, one taxi for the chica and another for you.
The Dirty Pirate
02-10-14, 15:12
Thank you for your reply Taboc.
There may have been a misunderstanding here.
I am not asking which casas are ok with breaking the rules.
Just asking if any of you guys have been to some casas and have spent good time there and the owners were not annoyed by brining in chicas (not necessarily without registration) then why not share the names and the experience and make newcomers to Cuba life easier.
Thank you anyway for any tips and help you may give.I don't share the names of the casas I use because some people choose to not use the same level of respect that I do. I want to keep using the casas I have found to be guest friendly.
Kalifornication
02-10-14, 16:58
Agreed, this should be obvious. And discretion is always the rule. I would assume that we also would never indicate to any casa owner that we are not being referred from this forum. We are all just friends right?
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With all due respect to everyone involved, this should be handled via PM to protect the casa owner (and our good thing). We all know from staying in Cuba previously how protective the casa owners are of their business. We never know if this board is being monitored.
If you are running several girls a day into a casa, word gets out quickly. Police and cameras are everywhere in Havana. Its a cat and mouse game you have to play concerning the police and casa owners. Its best to have a regular girl to ease the casa owners reservations about your intentions, then use a casa the girls you pick up on the streets have for side shit. Then once you develop a trust with certain girls, slide her into the home rotation, therefore the owners can relax knowing your judgement is good. Don't expose your hand too soon, thats a mistake I think most guys make. I'm seeing on this board too many guys that are going down there being complete dogs not caring, the key is to slide in real slick and smooth. The casa owner has more to lose than you do, but we also should respect that. The system there is designed to keep us from doing it the way we want to do it, so you have to adjust to make it happen your way, but it takes time.
I will be traveling to Havana the beginning of June for 8 days, this will be my 3rd trip to the island. The first 2 times I have only stayed for 3 days then went onto another destination, this time I made Havana my sole destination. I have learned so much by reading this post that I now have a full understanding of how things work down there. The first 2 times that I went I did not get one single chica because I did not know where to meet them or how to seal the deal. Since I am a cigar aficionado I was able to pass my time at the cigar factory and other cigar outlets, had a great time. At night I would wonder around not knowing where to go, but this time it will be different.
I wanted to visit a chica / amiga I had met before in Guanabo. So took a taxi collectivo from Santa Clara. There is a big negro, standing near the Viazul station acts as an agent for taxi drivers and he gets a cut from them. He recognized me, so no hassle on price. 20cuc from Santa Clara to be dropped at the chica's casa. Took the front seat in a smaller car, and there was a couple in the backseat who were going to Havana airport, so they paid 25each. We took off and zipped thru the auto pista, stopping once at the road side resting place. Cuba has become like fucking USA in these rest stops, nice shops, paid washroom, over priced food and a buch of Che caps. Looking at this rate, they might open a stock exchange in Havana in the future and name that capitalist pig of an institution as Che too.
I cache google maps in my Galaxy, so I could show it to the driver where to go exactly, and did that. This chica lives in Santa Fe. When you go from Havana south on Via Monumental, take the exit to Independencia which will take you to Guanabocoa, but take the road on the opp direction and it brings to Santa Fe, small neighborhood. I did not tell the chica that I am coming, so she was very surprised. She gives a big hug, and introduces me to her friend, ok looking mulatta. Back in the casa, well there is one room to sleep and a small kitchen in the corner, thats all, I hug her from behind and she makes the move and I shamelessly become hard, as I did not wear the underwear, it becomes obvious and they laugh. One of the things I miss in Cuba is a good massage, this chica can try a little bit, so after settling down and having a cafe, she comes and rubs the shoulder, and actully tells the mulatta how to do it, and when the mulatta starts doing it, she presses my foot. Sometimes these things are better than even sex.
She says she has no job in the factory where they pack shrimps. Layoffs every where. So she has found a new job in a place where they make medicine. The pay is same, but in the shrimp factory she can take a pound out every day and sell it to the palladars, now no more that income.
I ask her whether the mulatta can blow me, she says yes. I send her out to get crystal, she said it would take atleast 30minutes, I say good. Once she had left, I ask the mulatta to stop pressing my shoulders, and point her to my dick. She was surprised a bit, but starts blowing me. It did not take me long to shoot it in her mouth. My amiga comes back with beer, and we all have beer, and mulatta wants to go. My amiga tells me to pay her 40cuc. I say WTF, for a single BJ. 40cuc. I tell her I gave chics 20cuc for a full session in santa clara, so the max I can give is 20cuc. My amiga says that should be fine, however the mulatta wants 40cuc, when we told her 20cuc, thats all, believe it or not, she just walked away without taking it. Wow, that is the first in Cuba for me.
My amiga also starts making a pitch for her to start a tailor shop and that she needs 100cuc to buy all machinery etc. She did not ask me explicit, but that is what she meant. I thought it is time to get out, so take my small back pack and tell her I am going to the playa and will see her in the night (I was not sure). So I take the bus. 416 I think, all the way to Guanabo, it costs 1peso cubano for the 1hr or so ride. Relaxed in the playa, had few drinks and cigar. It was getting dark, and the water was also not so warm, so time to pack up.
Where do I go. I can go back to Santa clara, or go back to chica's place, or get a taxi guy who will take me to the casa I stayed last time. I decided to stay in the casa in gunabo, so we go there, and the fucking place is sold to a Canadian guy now and he is renovating it. The taxi guy shows me another place who wants 40cuc a night, I say now. I ask him to drop me back in gunabo and goto to the restaurant and have a good dinner. It is around 8. 30pm now, and I take the bus back to santa fe. My amigas home is locked, she is not there. I can go back to santa clara, it is going to cost me 20-25cuc to goto Havana station and then another 20-25 to goto Santa clara, then I am not sure the casa in santa clara is given to another tourist or not.
So, I am standing in an alley way not knowing what to do. I walk to the bus stop. I wait there, and then find a taxi. Ask the guy whether he knows any casa for 20cuc, he says he can find one. As he drives me to a casa, I hear loud music in the otherwise residential quiet place. He says it is a disco, Is ay what, a disco here out of no where. According to him mostly cubans go there. I ask him to drop me there so that I can check out. It is a fairly well built home, on the top floor they have a disco. There is a big Cuban and Swiss flags hanging outside. I ask the driver to come back after 2-3 hours. I get a drink and chill a bit, a black girl in her mid to late 20s with spring hair comes and introduces, and first I thought she is a jinetera, but she is the owner of the home. She lived in Europe and speaks many languages,
And told me she can get a real nice chica for 100cuc, plus her posh casa for 50cuc, she also told me her chicas are the best and so they like the best liquor, for example her fancy european cocktail that costs 10cuc a glass. And then she says,"if you give my girls something special, they will be extra special for you", I ask her what the fuck is that, she pulls me to the corner and says "special smoke". I did not even want to ask how much it costs.
Lord, save me. Where am I? Cuba, or talking to a madame in Amsterdam.
BrasilSoccer0
02-26-14, 07:16
Amsterdam is 50 euros.
I'm glad you stood your grounds, but I don't understand why she asked such high prices when this is supposedly a local cuban club?
BTW. 10cuc for a pop. 20cuc for one time whole day or TLN. And if you want her to stay with you for days then it's 10cuc per day.
If she says no, then in my opinion this girl doesn't follow the cuban economic paradigm or she is not restricted to the reality of the island. Meaning she is fuckng way too many old men with desperate dicks and desperate money.
Then move on to one who does. In another word find someone who really needs and appreciate the money.
I wrote about this and my reaction a Havana girl asking me for 50cuc in WSA a couple of yrs back.
And told me she can get a real nice chica for 100cuc, plus her posh casa for 50cuc, she also told me her chicas are the best and so they like the best liquor, for example her fancy european cocktail that costs 10cuc a glass. And then she says,"if you give my girls something special, they will be extra special for you", I ask her what the fuck is that, she pulls me to the corner and says "special smoke". I did not even want to ask how much it costs.
Lord, save me. Where am I? Cuba, or talking to a madame in Amsterdam.
BeersTerry
03-10-14, 19:28
All right Rhada, when you going to do the Oriente? Maybe I can join you. After a week of sport fucking in Medellin, I want to return to Cuba Hoping to be in Havana next month.
Couldn't agree more. I hope we never lift the embargo, otherwise it will be worse than Costa rica and Panama.
BTY guys, if you love Cuba, I know of another Cuba but with pure white pretty girls: like 5:1 girls to boys ratio. And the girls there are even sweeter and very feminine. They like to find boyfriends and husbands. And best of all, almost nobody knows about them!
This other Cuba is Transnistria. You can rent a fully furnished apartment for 150-500USD with $250 being the common rent per month.
It's not a sex tourist destination. It's a hidden sex destination. I wish it was closer.This guy had a one hell of an experience in Transnitria:
http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/fear-and-loathing-in-transnistria-vt145722.html
Small But Hard
03-24-14, 20:55
Hi guys,
I just got back from Cuba. I feel like I'm still living in a dream because I had such a good time.
I will write this report as I would like to read reports from others.
My opinion is my personal opinion, if it is different from yours forgive me. I am not trying to attack you or to disagree with you, just saying what I experienced.
Skip down to the Girls Experience if that is the only thing that interests you.
Part 1.
General Info. Local.
If you look up on internet you will find a lot of information about Cuba.
My recommendations are.
- Do not bring USD but change into Euro (best) or Canadian dollars. USD have 10% tax on them.
- You will meet many people who will start talking to you.
Q: how long have you been here? Have you just arrived? Is it your first time in Cuba? A: I've been here already 2 weeks and it's my second or third time.
Why? This way they cannot cheat you as you know already how things work in Cuba and it will save you time and waste of money.
- Always, specially for taxi and girls, say 'is xxx Cuc ok for this? ' instead of asking how much.
This will show you already have an idea of how much things cost and they know what is your range of prices.
- Golden rule: always mention 'I paid this much last time and I am not going to pay more than that', even if you actually never did but you got this general information from somebody else.
General Info. Girls.
I read several posts on this forum and I was a bit surprised as I believed I would be stopped at every corner by girls who wanted to be with me for a bit of cash.
I would strongly recommend you to be active and not passive when hunting girls.
Always look out for eye contact and if there is, do not hesitate to talk to them. A simple 'hola, que tal? ' costs you nothing and could get you some very interesting encounters, not only pros.
I walked around a lot and can say parque central and paseo were my best spots for not pros.
Also around Habana Libre but I think there are mainly Pros there and be careful, there are many transvesti too.
One night I was bored and just wanted to meet people. In Vedado, not far from Habana Libre is avenida de los presidentes. Walking down from Calle 23 there were so many university students having fun and drinking. I took a bottle of Havana Club 7 years, found a small group and asked: I am alone and I'm looking for somebody to share this bottle with.
They immediately became very good friends!
Small But Hard
03-24-14, 21:42
Part II.
The Girls Experience.
In 12 days in Cuba I stayed 7 nights in Habana. 1 in Trinidad. 2 in Playa Giron. 2 in Vinales.
I stayed with 7 girls and almost fell in love of one of them.
Iliana-Pro, Ebelyn-Jinetera but only asked for money once, Luna-Jinetera, Eli-GFE no money, Roxana-Jinetera but acted like a pro, Ruby-pro, Yani-GFE no money.
Day 1.
Iliana-Habana: I arrived late afternoon and was staying near Habana street in Vieja Habana.
Went for an exploratory walk on Obispo, had a not so good dinner and had zero eye contact with any girl.
I was a bit disappointed, went to 'lluvia de oro' and started drinking Cuba Libre first and Rum on the rocks later.
Mainly tourists in it. Saw a small slim and petite white girl with black hair, approx 24-26 yo, trying to chat up a german guy.
He ran away after 10 minutes, embarrassed.
I smile and tell her in Spanish what did you do to make him run away.
She laughs and says it's a bad evening tonight. 'not much going on'.
She makes it clear she is a pro. I ask her how much does she ask the guys to spend time with her and she replies 80 or 100 CUC.
I say 'wow', (Golden rule) I've never paid more than 25 since I'm here, you really must be good to get that money.
She smiles and says that in tough days like this she can go for less if the guy is good looking.
I think my first night with a pro won't be the best but I was bored of walking around and tell her that for 30 she can follow me home.
She does, I have private entrance, we go up, I ask her her carnet to give the owner and promise he won't write down but just keep it for security.
Owner was a young boy and told me exactly how things work.
She was 'ok', a bit mechanic but I spent 2 hours with me, made come twice and gave me a good BBBJ and CIM.
Day 2, 3.4.
Ebelyn-Habana: Next day I decide I want to try some more innocent girl. Go for walks in Parque central and Paseo and Capitol and chat up at least 5 girls who all gave me their numbers.
While I walk I see an old guy trying to chat up 2 cute girls, one around 26-28 yo, black and so and so and one really beautiful mulata around 20-21. They ignore him and I smile and tell them, in Spanish, what's up, too old for talking to you?
The older girl was more talkative and says they only speak Spanish and he was really old and ugly.
I asked if I was old and ugly too and she replies nono, not at all.
We walk together and have a chat, they are sisters and the older one gives me her number and asks me to call her if I want to spend nice time with her.
I go for dinner, have a shower and decide to call her.
I ask her if her sister would come to my place. She was surprised and says 'my sister? Ehm. Not sure. She. Wait' After a small talk between them she says ok she can come but is not really experienced. We settle for 30 Cuc.
Ebelyn is beautiful. She just turned 20 and she tells me she did some modeling but was too stressful job and now works in a market. Mulata, beautiful eyes which do not need make up, perfect body and the hardest tightest ass I have ever touched.
Not very experienced with her BJ and even wants to do BJ with condom. After 1 minute she says 'ah this si rubbish' and takes it off.
I spend 2 hours with her and ask her if it's ok for me to call her again. She says that surely I'll be busy with other girls and won't even remember her.
I gave her 10 Cuc more.
The next day I decide to relax and go out with some people I met and go dancing and really just go to bed.
The following day I call her and ask her if she wants to spend the night with me. She says yes.
She treated me like a boyfriend and didn't stop kissing me and telling me I will leave and forget her.
I gave her some presents, like soaps, body cream, some cheap lingerie I had bought.
When she leaves she doesn't ask me for money and when I go for my wallet she says, with a sad face, you already gave me more last time, and showing me the bag full of presents, she says this is enough and without looking at me again she leaves.
If I wasn't so experienced with women and how they can be charming. I would easily fall in love of this one. My god. If it happened to me 15 years ago I could go crazy for her and do crazy things.
Day 5.
Luna: The next day I go to Trinidad. I find it very touristy but beautiful. There was a free afro-cuban show near Casa de la Musica and I just sit and drink.
Strange thing, I see bunches of older men. 50-60 sitting and many girls sitting at their tables but ignoring me.
Again. I sit at a table where there is nearby a 60 year old guy. Two girls, obviously Jineteras, sit next to him. He ignores them, leaves. And they leave too, ignoring me.
I am puzzled and start chatting with a guy who explains that all the girls I see with miniskirts and make up are looking for somebody to go home with. An older guy is the best bait as he has less requests, usually lasts less (unless he takes viagra I think) and is ready to pay more. I look better and surely am more difficult to please than the older guys.
Mystery solved.
Anyway, I go to the club at the far end on the left of Casa de la Musica (1cuc entrance) and it soon becomes packed of people. It's hard to chat up anybody there as it's dark and really packed.
I go out again and see two very beautiful girls, high heels, make up, miniskirt, and try to make eye contact with them. Suddenly a tall girl, very beautiful and very fit, slender with big boobs, with trousers, no make up and very simply dressed goes up to one of them, talks, gives one of them something (probably a relative or a friend) and leaves.
I go. I want that one!
I walk next to her and ask her why she's leaving.
Oh. I'm not in the mood for noisy places tonight.
I don't want to waste time and ask her if she wants to be with me in my Casa Particular, it's quiet there.
She smiles and says ok why not. I propose 30 Cuc for 2 hours and she accepts.
Luna is black, and the contrast between her boobs and her thin body is quite impressive and I like it.
After I come the first time she starts fiddling through my stuff and finds some presents I brought.
She asks me to have them and I become a bit mean. Only if you let me do this. Ok. She finds another present and I say: you will have to do this. Ok.
I end up giving her 10 Cuc more, a body cream and a cheap lingerie set and she deepthroats, rims me for at least 10 minutes and let's me take her anally.
I needed a hard rough fuck after sweet Ebelyn.
Day 6, 7.
Eli: the next day I decide to go to Playa Giron and relax and have some sun.
The place had literally no tourists. I arrive late and try to check out the Casa de la Musica. It opened at 11pm.
I get there at midnight and it's closed. I ask some guy nearby why. He says it was empty.
The only bar around had 3 guys drinking and 2 girls sitting at a table. I get a Cuba libre but everybody was looking at me strangely and I didn't feel like making friends so I left.
The next day I go to the beach, enjoy the sun and decide to check out and go to Habana again, this place was dead.
As I walk home from the beach I meet a beautiful mulata girl. The type with lighter skin, big lips and big light brown eyes which makes you feel you are liking something wrong.
She is walking with a big hunky guy. I start chatting with him and they are brothers.
They live there and don't work, they get money from their father living in the US.
I already checked out and was planning to take the 6pm bus to Habana.
Eli looks really super friendly to me. She says she hardly sees foreigners there and usually they are ugly old guys.
She says she loves blue eyes too.
I feel awkward and ask her brother how old she is and he replies she turned 18 1 month ago.
I insist if he's lying and he says no, really.
When I tell her I must leave, she begs me to stay.
Oh damn. This is getting weird. I decide to stay.
I go for drinks with them and we have dinner together. They refuse me paying for them and actually the brother stops me from buying my own drinks. He says that if a Cuba libre for me is 2.5 Cuc. For him it's 0.5 Cuc so he goes and buys me drinks. I feel really strange.
She starts rubbing me and kissing me but she's totally unexperienced, she doesn't even kiss properly and I laugh. I have to hold her chin and open her mouth to be able to put my tongue in. She says 'oh you really are kinky'. More and more weird.
They tell me I can go to their home and we can drink some rum there. I say I checked out from my casa particular and my stuff is there.
They reply I can stay at their place for the night, it's fine. The Casa particular cost me 20 Cuc.
I go to their place and start making out with Eli while her brother is at the computer in the other room. He comes in and laughs when he finds us (yes, cubans are totally open minded for sexual issues. Just look at how they dance regetton in public, would be forbidden in Europe!)
I get up and put 10 Cuc in his pocket and ask him: 'how about if you go out and drink till this money is over'.
He smiles and says 'ok'.
I spend the entire night with Eli. It's weird as I have to instruct her on almost everything. Weird and very exiting.
Her brother came back at 9am. Eli sleeping. He says next bus for Habana is in 30 minutes and he can take me to the stop with his scooter.
I look at Eli and he says. Let her sleep, she must be tired.
I give her a kiss and go. I think I actually saved 10 Cuc when he says: oh by the way, I only drank 5 Cuc, this is your change. I try to refuse and he says: I am big and strong, you don't want me to get angry with you.
I leave the place full of sorrow and sad. Thinking of what will become of poor Eli.
Small But Hard
03-24-14, 21:43
Day 8:
Roxana: I return to Habana and decide to spend the night there before I go to Vinales and explore the area.
I go for a late lunch and start chatting with a funny cuban guy who had been in Italy before and worked there but was homesick and returned to Cuba.
I tell him I will stay for the evening and leave. He says he has a cousin who 'may be interested in me'. If we want we can go out together with him and another friend and then I can agree with his cousin Roxana if I want. Deal. We meetup and go dancing.
Roxana is 24, Mulata, not at all beautiful, a bit chubby, fat ass, a bit hairy arms and very shy.
I like fit girls so for me she was a 5.
I think it was a waste of time, I can't stop thinking of Ebelyn but I don't want to call her as I don't want to be sentimentally involved.
At some point of the night she teaches me Regetton and I get very horny. I ask her how much she wants to come with me and she replies 100 Cuc.
I smile and say the Golden rule.
OK 30 Cuc for all night. Done.
Now. What Roxana doesn't have in terms of beauty. She definitely compensates in sexual skills.
Boy oh boy, after 2 hooker experiences and 2 unexperienced GFE. This one deserved a full 10 in terms of sex.
She gave me a perfect BBBJ. I love being rimmed and she noticed it as she was exploring the lower part of my genitals.
The more she explored, the more I was groaning of pleasure.
She spent a full 20 minutes cleaning me up before she started riding me.
She was very skilled at that too. She knew very well how to move and swirl and touch me.
I turned her around doggy style and came after pumping her very hard.
She smiles shyly and we chat for a bit. She says she can give massage too.
I had the last Body Cream with me and ask her to use it.
Perfect massage from back. Turns me around and does the front too. Concentrates on my little boy who says: I'm ready and she again performs her oral special.
Another 20 minutes of very sloppy heaven and this time I push her down to see how deep she can go. She could handle deepthroat pumping without gagging once.
Perfection!
As we start the proper action, I take her many positions and while she is in doggy she asks, shyly. Do you want to put it behind?
Damn. She is asking me if I want anal. Of course!
I don't last long in her ass and come after a few minutes.
We fall asleep and the next morning I must leave for Vinales.
We wake up, she smiles, drinks some water and I tell her we must leave.
She asks: do you have 10 minutes before shower?
Oh yes. Again please!
This time she spends almost the entire 10 minutes deepthroating me as she saw I liked it.
When I am about to come she takes it out and makes me come all over her face, rubbing my dick on her lips.
I really think she would be a great pornstar if only she was prettier. She did everything so naturally and so well.
Day 9 and 10.
I go to Vinales and explore but I don't feel like going with anybody.
Day 11 and 12, 24 hours of sex before I go.
Ruby, Yany, Ebelyn.
After 2 days ignoring girls and taking it easy (Roxana had really emptied me and gave me a great experience) I decided to spend my last 2 nights in Habana and have fun again.
After dinner I go for a walk nearby Habana Libre. I have eye contact with more than one girl but they were obviously pros.
Nothing special or interesting so I decide to walk back home (I was staying in Vedado) and call some numbers I had.
I call Roxana, nothing. I call two more numbers, nothing. Ebelyn's number stands in front of me but I really don't want to call her. Afraid of having feelings for her.
I decide to take an Amendron (the old cadillacs) and return to Habana Libre for a pro. On the amendron are two girls, A chubby mulata who is 20 and Yani, a very dark black girl with big boobs and very slim body. Not beautiful not ugly. Normal face.
They start chatting with me while on the taxi and decide to go for a walk and a drink with me.
We have a couple of drinks in calm place, chat, buy a bottle of aged rum for 4 cuc and drink half of it.
I start flirting with the black girl and tell her she is very beautiful and has a great set of boobs.
I invite her home and she says no, she cannot as she must be home tonight.
I ask her why and she says she promised her mom she would return home.
Her mom is a doctor and she studies medicine.
I tell her I am going to the beach 'playas del est' the next day so we settle to go together and she gives me her number.
She kisses me with passion and leaves.
I am very horny so I go to Habana Libre, walk down the street and find 3 girls sitting down. One beautiful mulata with curly hair and a miniskirt, a fat chubby one who is the pimp and a ffake blond very young one who seems half asleep The pimp says hey, this girl is for you, available, you want her.
I look at the sleepy girl she is pointing at and tell her I prefer the other one.
She says this one is only 20 (maybe she didn't work enough that night) but that one is 40.
I say I can pay 30 for that one but I don't want this one.
OK. They tell me to walk to my place and they will follow me.
All 3 of them follow me home, the beautiful curly haired one called Ruby follows me home.
I was very horny so everything si very mechanic and rough.
After BBBJ. 30 minutes later I come and tell her to leave. She does it quietly.
The next day I go to the beach with Yana and her friend. I pay for the drinks and for a sandwich and we return home together.
She says she wants to be with me. So I fuck Yana and concentrate on her boobs. She lets me put my dick between them and cum in her mouth. I spend an couple of hours with her and tell her I have an appointment with some friends as it's my last night.
She leaves, smiles and says it was fun. She doesn't even think of asking me money!
She leaves and I rest a bit. I get a call from the owner of the casa particular saying I got a call from Roxana, from another girl and from Ebelyn.
They must have had my number recorded on my mobile.
Damn. Ebelyn. I call her back and she says she would like to see me again. 'como novia'.
My last night. Ok.
I take her for dinner, we go dancing and we don't stop kissing.
I spend my last night with her and we spend all morning in bed.
When It's time to go she is sad. She tells me she hopes I return to Cuba because all the Cuban guys she goes with are violent and hit her. I am the only one who treated her gently.
We exchange emails and take pictures together.
I try to give her money and she refuses. So I put 40 Cuc in her bag while she is not looking.
We are currently exchanging emails and I'm still dreaming of returning to Cuba.
If I do. I will try to explore the eastern part of the island and ask her to come with me. 'como novia'
Surely she will go with other guys but. I'll go with other girls too.
Great reporting bro,
Thanks
Day 8:
Roxana: I return to Habana and decide to spend the night there before I go to Vinales and explore the area.
I go for a late lunch and start chatting with a funny cuban guy who had been in Italy before and worked there but was homesick and returned to Cuba.
I tell him I will stay for the evening and leave. He says he has a cousin who 'may be interested in me'. If we want we can go out together with him and another friend and then I can agree with his cousin Roxana if I want. Deal. We meetup and go dancing.
Roxana is 24, Mulata, not at all beautiful, a bit chubby, fat ass, a bit hairy arms and very shy.
I like fit girls so for me she was a 5.
I think it was a waste of time, I can't stop thinking of Ebelyn but I don't want to call her as I don't want to be sentimentally involved.
At some point of the night she teaches me Regetton and I get very horny. I ask her how much she wants to come with me and she replies 100 Cuc.
I smile and say the Golden rule.
OK 30 Cuc for all night. Done.
Now. What Roxana doesn't have in terms of beauty. She definitely compensates in sexual skills.
Boy oh boy, after 2 hooker experiences and 2 unexperienced GFE. This one deserved a full 10 in terms of sex.
She gave me a perfect BBBJ. I love being rimmed and she noticed it as she was exploring the lower part of my genitals.
The more she explored, the more I was groaning of pleasure.
She spent a full 20 minutes cleaning me up before she started riding me.
She was very skilled at that too. She knew very well how to move and swirl and touch me.
I turned her around doggy style and came after pumping her very hard.
She smiles shyly and we chat for a bit. She says she can give massage too.
I had the last Body Cream with me and ask her to use it.
Perfect massage from back. Turns me around and does the front too. Concentrates on my little boy who says: I'm ready and she again performs her oral special.
Another 20 minutes of very sloppy heaven and this time I push her down to see how deep she can go. She could handle deepthroat pumping without gagging once.
Perfection!
As we start the proper action, I take her many positions and while she is in doggy she asks, shyly. Do you want to put it behind?
Damn. She is asking me if I want anal. Of course!
I don't last long in her ass and come after a few minutes.
We fall asleep and the next morning I must leave for Vinales.
We wake up, she smiles, drinks some water and I tell her we must leave.
She asks: do you have 10 minutes before shower?
Oh yes. Again please!
This time she spends almost the entire 10 minutes deepthroating me as she saw I liked it.
When I am about to come she takes it out and makes me come all over her face, rubbing my dick on her lips.
I really think she would be a great pornstar if only she was prettier. She did everything so naturally and so well.
Day 9 and 10.
I go to Vinales and explore but I don't feel like going with anybody.
Day 11 and 12, 24 hours of sex before I go.
Ruby, Yany, Ebelyn.
After 2 days ignoring girls and taking it easy (Roxana had really emptied me and gave me a great experience) I decided to spend my last 2 nights in Habana and have fun again.
After dinner I go for a walk nearby Habana Libre. I have eye contact with more than one girl but they were obviously pros.
Nothing special or interesting so I decide to walk back home (I was staying in Vedado) and call some numbers I had.
I call Roxana, nothing. I call two more numbers, nothing. Ebelyn's number stands in front of me but I really don't want to call her. Afraid of having feelings for her.
I decide to take an Amendron (the old cadillacs) and return to Habana Libre for a pro. On the amendron are two girls, A chubby mulata who is 20 and Yani, a very dark black girl with big boobs and very slim body. Not beautiful not ugly. Normal face.
They start chatting with me while on the taxi and decide to go for a walk and a drink with me.
We have a couple of drinks in calm place, chat, buy a bottle of aged rum for 4 cuc and drink half of it.
I start flirting with the black girl and tell her she is very beautiful and has a great set of boobs.
I invite her home and she says no, she cannot as she must be home tonight.
I ask her why and she says she promised her mom she would return home.
Her mom is a doctor and she studies medicine.
I tell her I am going to the beach 'playas del est' the next day so we settle to go together and she gives me her number.
She kisses me with passion and leaves.
I am very horny so I go to Habana Libre, walk down the street and find 3 girls sitting down. One beautiful mulata with curly hair and a miniskirt, a fat chubby one who is the pimp and a ffake blond very young one who seems half asleep The pimp says hey, this girl is for you, available, you want her.
I look at the sleepy girl she is pointing at and tell her I prefer the other one.
She says this one is only 20 (maybe she didn't work enough that night) but that one is 40.
I say I can pay 30 for that one but I don't want this one.
OK. They tell me to walk to my place and they will follow me.
All 3 of them follow me home, the beautiful curly haired one called Ruby follows me home.
I was very horny so everything si very mechanic and rough.
After BBBJ. 30 minutes later I come and tell her to leave. She does it quietly.
The next day I go to the beach with Yana and her friend. I pay for the drinks and for a sandwich and we return home together.
She says she wants to be with me. So I fuck Yana and concentrate on her boobs. She lets me put my dick between them and cum in her mouth. I spend an couple of hours with her and tell her I have an appointment with some friends as it's my last night.
She leaves, smiles and says it was fun. She doesn't even think of asking me money!
She leaves and I rest a bit. I get a call from the owner of the casa particular saying I got a call from Roxana, from another girl and from Ebelyn.
They must have had my number recorded on my mobile.
Damn. Ebelyn. I call her back and she says she would like to see me again. 'como novia'.
My last night. Ok.
I take her for dinner, we go dancing and we don't stop kissing.
I spend my last night with her and we spend all morning in bed.
When It's time to go she is sad. She tells me she hopes I return to Cuba because all the Cuban guys she goes with are violent and hit her. I am the only one who treated her gently.
We exchange emails and take pictures together.
I try to give her money and she refuses. So I put 40 Cuc in her bag while she is not looking.
We are currently exchanging emails and I'm still dreaming of returning to Cuba.
If I do. I will try to explore the eastern part of the island and ask her to come with me. 'como novia'
Surely she will go with other guys but. I'll go with other girls too.Really enjoyed your 3 reports, thanks for taking the time to write in such detail. I am arriving Havana next month and will make use of some of your info. I last visited Havana 4 years ago, far too long an absence, but the chicas in Colombia kept me coming back to Colombia. Do some of the chicas in Havana still wash your clothes in the casas sinks without even being asked?
Just came from 7 day trip to Havana. Havana is destination for everything. Music, beach, rum and good looking chicas. Chicas are everywhere. I found chica in old Havana, malecon (central Havana) and across Mehlia cohiba. I also went to La Cecilla and personally thought the prices of girls in the club were high. My average cost of girls was 35 CUC.
AngryMime666
04-19-14, 15:20
Hello gents,
I'm planning to go to Cuba in September of this year.
The forums have been an excellent way of learning from members good and not so good experiences. I have looked through at least fifty pages of previous reviews and have learned a lot. I do have questions though. I would really like to hike and wander the country side and if things go in my favour meet some lovely women. Its not my main motive for Cuba, but companionship while traveling alone would be fantastic. I have been learning spanish through rosetta stone, although I don't see myself being fluent.
From reading members post and attached pictures I have noticed something. All the women posted tend to be very thin / athletic. For me this is a tad worrisome. I tend to like my women thicker, darker and a little more fluffy. I would assume there are all different shape colour an sizes of woman in Cuba?
I will most likely get a package deal from toronto, and use the hotel as a base. I'd really just like to explore. I tend to just throw a pack on my back and just walk in a direction till I'm lost. Perhaps get a room for rent for the night while backpacking? I normally would not do this in a country such as Jamaica, but have done it in Europe. Is it safe enough to do in Cuba?
Much appreciated.
I will bite this one. 'Hiking and backpacking' is uncommon and dangerous. Your ass will be picked up by a police patrol guaranteed. Walking alone on an empty highway on a rainy sticky September day? Insane! City walks in most cases are safe.
AngryMime666
04-20-14, 07:34
I will bite this one. 'Hiking and backpacking' is uncommon and dangerous. Your ass will be picked up by a police patrol guaranteed. Walking alone on an empty highway on a rainy sticky September day? Insane! City walks in most cases are safe.Thanks, I appreciate the information. Disappointing indeed, but safety first.
I may need to rethink since this may put a damper on visiting. I don't do well with sitting around, I like to wander and explore. I guess I could wander through havana. I'm going to use google but if any members here have anything that they think would be of note worthy interest while on foot exploration I would listen.
Thanks Questner. You may have saved my bacon.
First to Questner, the guy seems to be more interested in hiking than backpacking. It is uncommon, but not necessarily dangerous. I feel like the tourism system is set up to discourage backpacking, especially since there is no network of "Hostels." There are individuals who still try to pull it off but it is not easy and you will have to do your research.
That said, there are several options for hiking. There are several national parks and places where you can go hiking. There is the Vinales area east of Havana, the Sierra Escambray just outside of Trinidad, the famous Sierra Maestra and the El Yunque area of Baracoa. Those are just the best known places, and I have done some hiking at some of these places myself. There are offices or individuals that will arrange transportation to and from the park from the nearest town. The good thing about hiking in Cuba is that the country is small enough for you to get a good hike followed by a shower and a clean bed at the end of the day.
This being Cuba, you cannot just show up and walk into the park to hike by yourself in these places. You may be required to pay for a park ranger to accompany you. Maybe some of the other smaller parks may allow you to go on your own, but I do no know of any. I recommend you get a guide book like Moon Books or do more research elsewhere online.
Yes, there are all sorts of women in Cuba, you will meet more than your share of black women if that is your thing. Black women are very under represented on this site, if you ask me. You will have no problem meeting black women similar to the following actresses and singers: Jordin Sparks (American Idol fame) , Kimberly Elise, Jennifer Hudson (Before the weight loss) , Naomie Harris (007 fame) , Anika Noni Rose and even Queen Latifah.
Heck, I would even throw in Cuban actresses like Christina Milian, Gina Torres and Rosario Dawson. Judging by the pictures people post here, some may need to google the names I have just given. Good luck!
AngryMime666
04-21-14, 01:55
First to Questner, the guy seems to be more interested in hiking than backpacking. It is uncommon, but not necessarily dangerous. I feel like the tourism system is set up to discourage backpacking, especially since there is no network of "Hostels." There are individuals who still try to pull it off but it is not easy and you will have to do your research...Hey,
Thanks Velasco for the reply.
I googled backpacking a couple of weeks ago in Cuba and came up with a lot of positive results. Its just not that common of a outing or activity as you said; but I'm also a safety concerned traveler, hence the question to people who have been before. I guess most of the gentlemen that have vacationed don't do the back packing hiking getaway.
Thanks for the references, Ill check them out.
Phew. I was getting worried going through the pics before, since I like a thicker woman with a big booty. For me it will come down to just meeting one I find attractive and seeing if she would like to spend time with me. Not sure if she would be interested in my adventures but, its my vacation and I would make sure she was having an excellent time.
This website is an awesome wealth of information.
Thanks
Hey Guys,
My Canadian buddy is planning a trip for us to Havana, both our first time going. Just a few questions:
I'm bring CAD to exchange but if I run out of the cash can I withdraw from ATM or Banks without 10% tax with my card?
Also not really fluent in Spainish what's are the locals like with their english skills? I assume I'm going to look like a juicy lamb chop to them, but will I be generally understood?
Thanks
Guy Lafleur
04-24-14, 01:57
Hi,
I took a VISA credit card cash advance from a bank on the main street Obispo in Old Havana. The machine had the VISA sign on it and I had no problems. Not sure if it would work for a bank card though. I would bring mucho cash and use them as a last resort. Call your credit card company regarding fees.
You should have no problems with your limited Spanish, just use the same caution as you would anywhere else.
Guy
Hey Guys,
My Canadian buddy is planning a trip for us to Havana, both our first time going. Just a few questions:
I'm bring CAD to exchange but if I run out of the cash can I withdraw from ATM or Banks without 10% tax with my card?
Also not really fluent in Spainish what's are the locals like with their english skills? I assume I'm going to look like a juicy lamb chop to them, but will I be generally understood?
Thanks
Locals don't speak good English where I've been to in Cuba, although I've never been to Havana. Everybody's English there is pretty shitty. People understand numbers though.
I have withdrawn cash from a Cadeca (currency exchange booth) using a Canadian MasterCard. You will pay a $5 fee and then you will pay the CAD-USD exchange rate difference + %2.5 (or whatever your credit card charges for forex transactions).
You will also pay a little fee. E. G I took out $100 CUC and to take that out they charged my credit card for $103.25 USD, which got paid in Canadian.
But YMMV. It is Cuba, there really aren't rules and the money system is fucked up.
As the other poster mentioned, bring more hard cash than you need. If you are brave, bring USD and exchange on the street.
Hello gents,
I'm planning to go to Cuba in September of this year.
The forums have been an excellent way of learning from members good and not so good experiences. I have looked through at least fifty pages of previous reviews and have learned a lot. I do have questions though. I would really like to hike and wander the country side and if things go in my favour meet some lovely women. Its not my main motive for Cuba, but companionship while traveling alone would be fantastic. I have been learning spanish through rosetta stone, although I don't see myself being fluent.
From reading members post and attached pictures I have noticed something. All the women posted tend to be very thin / athletic. For me this is a tad worrisome. I tend to like my women thicker, darker and a little more fluffy. I would assume there are all different shape colour an sizes of woman in Cuba?
I will most likely get a package deal from toronto, and use the hotel as a base. I'd really just like to explore. I tend to just throw a pack on my back and just walk in a direction till I'm lost. Perhaps get a room for rent for the night while backpacking? I normally would not do this in a country such as Jamaica, but have done it in Europe. Is it safe enough to do in Cuba?
Much appreciated.Cuba is very safe and the women come in all shapes, sizes and colours.
For me it will come down to just meeting one I find attractive and seeing if she would like to spend time with me. Not sure if she would be interested in my adventures but, its my vacation and I would make sure she was having an excellent time.
This website is an awesome wealth of information.
ThanksI missed this part of your earlier message and I am surprised others did not chime in already. So you are thinking of finding a woman and having her accompany you on your backpacking / hiking journeys. I would probably recommend against it, because you are a first timer and like you said, you are just now learning Spanish through Rosetta Stone. There are so many things unique to Cuba out there that you have to experience on the ground, and that is just for a regular traveler. I suggest you adopt a wait and see approach. If you meet a Cubana that you feel comfortable enough to haul around, then good for you. However, the chances of you meeting a woman, asking her to accompany you and then living to regret it are pretty good.
A Latino friend of mine just came back from Cuba a few months ago. He had told his woman, a Santiaguera, that he was coming months in advance. He was planning to hang out in Havana for a day, head to Trinidad for about 2 days, then go to Santiago to spend time with her. Somehow, she talked him into having her meet him at the airport in Havana. So she traveled to Havana, met him at the airport and the whole thing was a nightmare for him although he had been to Cuba several times before AND was a fluent Spanish speaker.
I had actually advised him against the idea of his chica meeting him at Jose Marti airport when he was in the process of planning his trip. He said he missed her so much and wanted to maximize the amount of time they would spend together, now he never wants to see her again. He told me that his trip would have been better of she had just met him at the Viazul bus station in Santiago. Es Cuba!
Landed at Varadero airport via Westjet air only, no package, from Vancouver mid April. I was probably the only person on the flight going directly into La Habana, others getting picked up by tour buses headed to the Varadero beach hotels. Viazul bus lines goes the 3 hrs into La Habana from the airport but only every 2 or 3 hours. There are a few tour buses going directly into La Habana, I wandered around the parking lot a found one with all german tourists going to the city, driver wanted $20 cuc, the locals pronounce the cuc as coos, the national currency as cubanos 25 to 1. Good deal took me directly to my hotel in Vedado where I stayed for 2 nites while looking for accommodation in centro. There is a new 3 cubano coin, value $.12 USD, same value as the paper 3 cubano note with che foto the new coin' new to me as my last visit 4 years ago, is the same size as the $1 cuc coin. Value $1.00 USD. Cubans can do the math..cubano coin value $.12 USD versus $1.00 USD, good profit margin eh? So now the really important stuff, Chicas...The Malecon from Prado de Marti 'centro la habana' west to near vedado border is a total right off.not sure about the vedado area of the malecon... Because of high police presence. I saw few chicas there and was told by others chicas I met elsewhere that they avoid the malecon area. There are chicas on the prado de marti and obispo. The best areas I found was on galiano, lots around the several block area either way from the casa de musica on galiano at neptuno. An excellent restaurant next door to the casa de musica is the "americano".
$1 cuc mojitos, excellent food and great prices, lots of cubanos, air con, and in 2 weeks I never saw another gringo in there. You can meet chicas on all the streets between galiano and parque central 'top end of the prado' about 6 blocks. The chicas like to wink you as they pass you on the street. Finding a casa particular with private entrance is difficult. I stayed in 5 different casas in centro and always some problems. Stayed 2 nites in a chicas home, her carnet card stolen so could not enter casa I spent a whole day with her going to 3 different offices getting a replacement, she had her sister and sisters 2 kids go to a novios house. Apartment had no running water, just a 45 gallon barrel, no frig, 2 burner gas stove, we showered cubano style, with a dipper into a 5 gal pail with water heated on the stove. This was near the Lincoln hotel on galiano. She was 19 and I am 60+ and wanted to get married. So what should a guy do? I left Cuba and am now in my favorite city Medellin, Colombia, but I sure do love those cubanas and will stop in La Habana on my way back to Kanuckistan, Canada.
Hey Guys,
My Canadian buddy is planning a trip for us to Havana, both our first time going. Just a few questions:
I'm bring CAD to exchange but if I run out of the cash can I withdraw from ATM or Banks without 10% tax with my card?
Also not really fluent in Spainish what's are the locals like with their english skills? I assume I'm going to look like a juicy lamb chop to them, but will I be generally understood?
ThanksThere is no 10% tax on Canuck bank issued credit cards...Bank Debit Cards do not work in Cuba! Cash is king so bring Cads, Euros, signs in banks say no Aussie $, so beware you aussies. There are 2 Banco De Metropolitanos in centro, one on the prado and one on galiano with on the street atms, I have used both, max was $300 cuc per transaction. Poor english skills in la habana, beware any guys on the street who speaks english! You only need to know 3 words to survive...cerveza, chica, pollo...foto is dinner at the americano cafe on galiano next door to the casa de musica.. 2 mojitos, 1 beer, camarones con arroz, total cost $9 cuc.
You only need to know 3 words to survive...cerveza, chica, pollo...foto is dinner at the americano cafe on galiano next door to the casa de musica.. 2 mojitos, 1 beer, camarones con arroz, total cost $9 cuc.Couple more words might help; quiero, and the most important word for any monger, cuanto?
BTW - Is the local cerveza in Cuba any good?
Finding a casa particular with private entrance is difficult.Is it essential to have a private entrance? Can you bring the chicas in if they have their carnet card?
BlueSkyOne
05-15-14, 18:41
Couple more words might help; quiero, and the most important word for any monger, cuanto?
BTW - Is the local cerveza in Cuba any good?Hello Guillermo,
Thank you for adding words to the list. I am planning to visit for the first time in June with limited Spanish skills. So any word counts.
There is no 10% tax on Canuck bank issued credit cards...Bank Debit Cards do not work in Cuba! Cash is king so bring Cads, Euros, signs in banks say no Aussie $, so beware you aussies. There are 2 Banco De Metropolitanos in centro, one on the prado and one on galiano with on the street atms, I have used both, max was $300 cuc per transaction. Poor english skills in la habana, beware any guys on the street who speaks english! You only need to know 3 words to survive...cerveza, chica, pollo...foto is dinner at the americano cafe on galiano next door to the casa de musica.. 2 mojitos, 1 beer, camarones con arroz, total cost $9 cuc.Hey Bart,
What about American money, would you change to Canadian money than to cuc, last time I went 5 years ago I lost money changing back and forth.
Hey Bart,
What about American money, would you change to Canadian money than to cuc, last time I went 5 years ago I lost money changing back and forth.All banks in Cuba charge a 10% penalty buying cuc's with USD's. No penalty for cads or euros. You are probably going to get hit with a 2 or 3% charge buying cads with USD at a USA bank, so only convert what you think you need as you would get hit again changing cads you do not spend back into usds.
Is it essential to have a private entrance? Can you bring the chicas in if they have their carnet card?The problem is the casa owner is required go to a govt office every day, this is not bullshit. 3 casa owners confirmed this, and report who was in the casa. What I have been told is that if a chica's name shows up 3 times with a different gringo it is jail time for her. The casa owner also like you to say you are staying for example 3 days then they do not have to go every day, but just write in their casa book you left after one day if that what you did, without having to go the office. The private entrance allows the chica to enter on the sly. What I found works best is at a lot of hotels, you talk with the guard and pay him $10 to $40 and you walk right past the reception desk with you, he may hold her carnet card but her name doesn't show on the register. Maybe not all hotels follow this policy...At the Tropicoco at playa del este east of la habana 20 km I paid $20 cuc. I only stayed one night as I wanted to check out the scene at Guanabo 10 km down the road. They had a floor show the night I was there and at the end of the performance the chicas came off the stage to dance with audience. This hot cubana grabbed me and in the first 2 minutes dancing with me asked if I wanted her to come to my room. I gave her my room number and 15 minutes later she and the guard knocked on my door, $20 cuc passed hands. 2 hours of bliss following, got to love Cuba! ... At the Lido Hotel on the prado de marti, I talked to the guard and it worked the same way except it was only $10 cuc...The chicas who are really afraid of the police and being seen with a gringo are the ones whose carnet shows their residence not being havana. Non havana residents can not legally live or stay in havana unless visiting relatives and then only for 2 weeks so a chica told me who was staying with her sister. The chicas also know where you can visit a casa short time with no paper work. What I found was the short time and TLN. Total la noche, all night long was the same price. Interestly most the chicas would not quote a price but said buy or give me a gift, even the dancer at the tropicoco. I gave her $40 cuc and she smiled.
Hello GUillermo,
Thank you for adding words to the list. I am planning to visit for the first time in June with limited Spanish skills. So any word counts.You would never drink USA beer again if you could buy Cristal or Buccanero stateside.
It has been some time since the last time I was in Cuba, and if there's anything that's true about Cuba it's that conditions change rapidly. Clubs are in, then out, the crackdown is on, then off, etc etc. I'll be going down again in July, and while I'm prepared to sweat my balls off I'd prefer not to doing waiting around for stuff to happen, so my question is what are the current best times to go to the following clubs in the evening. Or perhaps better to ask at what time each club starts to get busy now? I've been looking back through the posts and while some guys mention when they go out there don't seem to be time guidelines. Can you guys say when things will start to get busy at the following clubs:
Dos Gardenias.
La Cecilia.
Salon Rojo.
El Gato Tuerto.
Don Cangrejo.
I'm going to assume not before 11 pm at the earliest for some of these places, and maybe 12-1 am for some, but if someone could narrow that range I'd appreciate it mucho. Thanks gentlemen! I'll be sure to provide a complete report on my return.
You would never drink USA beer again if you could buy Cristal or Buccanero stateside.To be fair, that's true of most country's beer when compared to most mass produced American beer. The USA has some excellent microbreweries and regional beers, but most mass produced US beer is undrinkable [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). Crystal's nothing special either, but when you're boiling under a Havana sun anything cold and wet tastes pretty good!
Hello GUillermo,
Thank you for adding words to the list. I am planning to visit for the first time in June with limited Spanish skills. So any word counts.You should at least learn how to count to 100, better to 1,000. You will be counting money and time.
This hot cubana grabbed me and in the first 2 minutes dancing with me asked if I wanted her to come to my room. I gave her my room number and 15 minutes later she and the guard knocked on my door, $20 cuc passed hands. 2 hours of bliss following, got to love Cuba!Now that's what I call room service!
Couple of questions...
First, how much Spanish does it take to negotiate something like that? Will my rusty high school Spanish serve me well? Or is this strictly for someone who is fluent? Is Cuban Spanish significantly different from say, Mexican or South American?
Also, how easy is it to find a room in Habana; either casa or hotel. From what you wrote and from other reports I read, you don't really need a reservation. You can pretty much find a room after you arrive. Am I understanding this correctly?
BlueSkyOne
05-17-14, 03:14
You should at least learn how to count to 100, better to 1,000. You will be counting money and time.Thank you for the advise, I know the number but sometimes get confuse (mostly from 11-19). Last time I was in Peru, I used the Google Translator and when I did not have Internet connection, just write it down (in Iphone note or paper).
I am heading down in about four weeks. I have flight to Cancun already and were contemplating to buy the Cancun-Havana ticket from Cubana airline online & pay with my US credit card or wait and buy it cash when I get to Cancun (I will arrive in the morning).
Any advise on the ticket? I have a buddy who wants to come but he is not sure. So I may end up being by myself. I know it would be a challenge but I would to experience it. Tell me if this is crazy. Lets meet if you will be down there late June and have time.
I was thinking to go to east and explore the area as well since I like to hunt and work for what I bring to table.
Thanks to all of you for your past post and any information you can share.
Have nice weekend.
Now that's what I call room service!
Couple of questions...
First, how much Spanish does it take to negotiate something like that? Will my rusty high school Spanish serve me well? Or is this strictly for someone who is fluent? Is Cuban Spanish significantly different from say, Mexican or South American?
Also, how easy is it to find a room in Habana; either casa or hotel. From what you wrote and from other reports I read, you don't really need a reservation. You can pretty much find a room after you arrive. Am I understanding this correctly?I always reserve a room for the first night or two when arriving in a place, then can check out where you want to stay the rest of your time. You do not want to be wandering around in a taxi looking for a place. Most custom forms want you to list the name of a hotel and address. Not that you need to show confirmation but at least have the info. You can survive in Cuba with limited spanish, all the chicas I met new some english, versus Colombia for example where very few speak any english. For example my last trip I searched hotels for havana and the hotel booking site ' otel.com' came up, I booked 2 nites with them for a hotel in vedado, then I moved in centro havana, my canadian visa was debited in euros so I presume ' otel.com is somewhere in eurolandia. So no problem for you if you have an american bank credit card, and can not book directly with cuban hotel. Search 'Cuba-junky' in google for lots of cuban info.
I know the number but sometimes get confuse (mostly from 11-19). Last time I was in Peru, I used the Google Translator and when I did not have Internet connection, just write it down (in Iphone note or paper).If you have the language in your head, then there is no need for internet connection. Although, I have no doubt Google probably already has someone working on that.
If you have already made plans made to go, then you are way ahead of me. You understand, of course, the second they swipe your US credit card to pay for the ticket to Habana, you are on the radar. But I'm not sure, do airlines even take cash anymore? Plus, it's probably not a good idea to wait until the morning you arrive in Cancun to hope there will be a seat left on the flight to Habana. Just something to think about.
No it's not crazy, but I'm not sure it's a good idea to venture into the eastern end of the island when you don't have at least a working knowledge of the lingo.
In any event, I'm sure we will all be interested to hear about your experiences.
So no problem for you if you have an american bank credit card, and can not book directly with cuban hotel.
True, my only problem is my U.S. Passport. You Kanucks have all the fun. ;)
Thanks for the advice.
BlueSkyOne
05-17-14, 21:16
If you have already made plans made to go, then you are way ahead of me. You understand, of course, the second they swipe your US credit card to pay for the ticket to Habana, you are on the radar. But I'm not sure, do airlines even take cash anymore? Plus, it's probably not a good idea to wait until the morning you arrive in Cancun to hope there will be a seat left on the flight to Habana. Just something to think about.You are right, and that is why I do not want to use credit card to buy my ticket. I read here that someone bought him ticket the day of arrival from US. I appreciate if anyone could share his experience. I know we can buy on line from http: www. Cubana. See you. They have third party charging the see / see but not sure if US back know that they are representing Cuba airline.
I am sure is a challenging trip and looking forward to it and share my experience upon return. Good Luck to you and others.
BlueSkyOne
05-17-14, 21:18
So no problem for you if you have an american bank credit card, and can not book directly with cuban hotel. Search 'Cuba-junky' in google for lots of cuban info.Thank you for sharing the information and also pointing us to Cuba-Junky site. It has good information.
MailMachine
05-20-14, 21:42
Need Information.
Where do I rent a Casa if I am staying at the Hotel Tropicoco?
Where do I find the girls first I landed in to Havana Hotel Tropicoco at 9 pm?
Is any girls out side of the hotel area to find or I have to go somewhere else by taxi?
I wants to rent a casa particular for a week. What do you recommend and private entrance is better?
I have to go to old Havana through the tunnel or Havana?
MailMachine
05-21-14, 15:36
Need your help:
After arriving the hotel, 9 pm what is the next step?
Where do I rent a private house? In Havana, old Havana?
How do I identify the girls who is what?
More info, please.
Gus
Need your help:
After arriving the hotel, 9 pm what is the next step?
GusLooks like you are a first timer going to Cuba. If that is the case, I would suggest the following.
- Once checked in, go down to the ground floor bar, have few drinks and you could possibly meet few mongers and tag along with where ever they go.
- In case you do not find any one, or do you not want to go with anyone then take a cab standing in front of Tropicoco around 10 pm and ask him to take you to Gunanabo Club / Guanimar, taxi charge 5 CUC.
- This club is full of girls who are either semi pros or pros, unless a girl is hanging around with a cuban guy. Simply 99% are there to be picked up.
- Find a girl, buy her a drink (1 CUC normal days, it changes if a band is playing), and talk to her and tell her what you want. Offer max 40 CUC (30 CUC should be possible), again this is just a guideline, if you really like someone and she wants 100 CUC it is upto you to decide.
- Ask her about a Casa, and she will either know a place or would know a taxi driver who knows a place. For taxi 5 CUC to 10 CUC depending on where the casa is, and 20 CUC for the case, may be 30 CUC if you decide to stay for the whole day.
- You are all set.
I suggested you a plan, honestly I will not follow it.
I would have a drink in Tropicoco, hang around in the lobby, smoke a good cigar outside, and have few more drinks and good night sleep. Next morning, I will goto the playa across the street and around 11 am will take the 5 peso bus that goes from Tropicoco round about to Guanabocoa center or walk up the road that goes to Via Blanca and take the 5 peso bus that goes to Guanabo, from the moment I get into the bus the hunting will start. I will sit around Guanabocoa church or by Guanabo playa, walk around and will continue the hunt till I find someone good to my eyes and convince her to talk to me. Nobody will talk in the street, so will do my best to find a side alleyway to talk, or signal her to come into one of the coffee shops around and convince her to come with me, or take me to her place. I might find the girl in 5 minutes, 5 hours or it would take the whole day. Or I may not find anyone willing to come with me. Who cares, when I do find, and then bang her, I know it will all be worth it. Just in case I do not find anyone and become desperate, then I will follow what I suggested earlier.
You asked about Havana / Old Havana. Someone should be able to help you there, I avoid them as plaque.
Go with an open mind, be positive and either goto club and take it easy or work hard in your game for the gems. Either way, have a good time.
You should be able to take the women back to the hotel. You will have to pay security $20.00. Please read past threads before asking more? Please write a detailed report on return.
Need your help:
After arriving the hotel, 9 pm what is the next step?
Where do I rent a private house? In Havana, old Havana?
How do I identify the girls who is what?
More info, please.
Gus.
MailMachine
05-22-14, 18:05
You should be able to take the women back to the hotel. You will have to pay security $20.00. Please read past threads before asking more? Please write a detailed report on return..Thanks for the reply.
I think I take your advise hang around in the bar and see what is the next step.
I am planning to rent a casa for a week. If this a good idea, Where do I rent the casa? Any better one in your mind? Name and address please.
Is it easy to find the places in Havana? Yellow Taxi is in Cuban Pesos?
I got reply from 2nd person, Thanks. If I bring the girl in to the hotel, Is it safe? She is not going take any of my stuff?
Advise please.
Use the safe. If there is no safe lock items in bag. They might take item like after shave. Cuba is on of the safest countries in the world. Talk to security before bring back the girls to hotel and make arrangements. Read the past posts. Use the search function.
Thanks for the reply.
I think I take your advise hang around in the bar and see what is the next step.
I am planning to rent a casa for a week. If this a good idea, Where do I rent the casa? Any better one in your mind? Name and address please.
Is it easy to find the places in Havana? Yellow Taxi is in Cuban Pesos?
I got reply from 2nd person, Thanks. If I bring the girl in to the hotel, Is it safe? She is not going take any of my stuff?
Advise please..
Can anybody recommend a few nice cases in a good area of Havana which is.
Chica friendly.
Has private entrance.
King size bed.
AC TV.
Hot water.
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AngryMime666
05-27-14, 01:41
I missed this part of your earlier message and I am surprised others did not chime in already. So you are thinking of finding a woman and having her accompany you on your backpacking / hiking journeys. I would probably recommend against it, because you are a first timer and like you said, you are just now learning Spanish through Rosetta Stone. There are so many things unique to Cuba out there that you have to experience on the ground, and that is just for a regular traveler. I suggest you adopt a wait and see approach. If you meet a Cubana that you feel comfortable enough to haul around, then good for you. However, the chances of you meeting a woman, asking her to accompany you and then living to regret it are pretty good.
A Latino friend of mine just came back from Cuba a few months ago. He had told his woman, a Santiaguera, that he was coming months in advance...Thanks. You never know what to expect, and I am a newbie tourist to Cuba. I'll get my feet wet first; walk through the city, and try the outskirts cites for the day. Who knows what may come?
Much appreciated.
I've been in Cuba now for a week and the island is opening all her treasures to me. Is it me? Or are these girls possessed when it comes to passionate sex? (Veteran Cuba travelers respond). They transform into these sexual Goddesses. I've had to adjust my sexual game to really enjoy what I was experiencing. They get into a sexual zone and I'm still just sport fucking without the passion. I had to get with the program and get into my sexual zone, that's what Cuba does to you. It was either I stepped away defeated or stepped up to the challenge.
As I reported last trip I found the perfect casa particular, and I also had girls who lived on the street waiting on their stoop for me to return home late at night. Well this time I switched it up because I don't like being predictable. I initially booked at a hotel but met a guy who had a casa with his wife. Next thing I know his beautiful niece from the countryside was visiting. We all drank rum and she asked if I had a girlfriend, I said I'm looking for someone like her. Two days later and I had fucked the niece about 9 times. She never asked for money but I brought liquor for the house and gave her 100 USD when she left after two days. The casa owners wife went to the countryside also with the niece after two days and I come home in the evening one day to find the casa owner drinking rum with four girls of different shades and sizes. Shit! We drank till 4 am and in the morning I had three girls in bed with me. The casa owner cooked breakfast and one of the girls made her long term pitch. Fuck it! I was buying. We walked the malecon and hungout like family. The girl fucked me silly and now it was time for me to be alone. I told everyone I was headed to the States but I'm still here. I checked into a hotel and did the solo thing.
I felt I could always double back but I wanted more adventure. Met a chocolate sister from 23rd. Damn! What is it with this island, are they all good fuckers?. After a day decided to roll the dice again and went to Casa de Musica. I sat next to two French guys who started a conversation with me. They were buying me drinks and had picked up three MILFS. The more I drank the younger the MILFS looked. We decided to all go club hopping and I was at the hotel at 5 am with one of the MILFS. Damn! She was crazy but I was tired. Cuba had broke me down sexually. I'm ready to leave tomorrow and I've got great memories but if you come to Cuba, have your sex game ready for the long term. A girl told mr in Cuba if you don't bust at least two nuts then the girl isn't satisfied. I can't wait to sleep on the plane tomorrow.
Mr Gogo.
I share your enthusiasm for Cuba. If it wasn't such a pain for us US citizens to travel there, I would go all the time. It just has so much more character and flavor than say Colombian or the DR.
Mr Gogo.
I share your enthusiasm for Cuba. If it wasn't such a pain for us US citizens to travel there, I would go all the time. It just has so much more character and flavor than say Colombian or the DR.I look at the difficulties that Americans have regarding Cuba as blessings. I don't want a bunch of Americans fucking up my good thing. Sure Cuba is hard for the newbie but its uniqueness and safety, along with the beautiful women, make it perfect for me. I don't see any Americans when I'm there. The Europeans are having a ball there.
The DR is a better bang for the buck but the Dominican women are hit and miss. Plus you can never really trust a Dominicana, and don't get me talking about the corrupt police and politicians. Tourists are untouchable in Cuba as long as you aren't fucking up, that alone makes it worthy. Name me some place else in the world where tourist are completely safe?
Cuba is being preserved for a limited time and I'm going to enjoy it completely while its still pure.
BrasilSoccer0
06-09-14, 17:32
Mr. Gogo,
I am not surprised with the passionate sex you've encountered in Cuba. I am surprised you were separating from the good casa setup you had! It sounds like you had an owner presenting you with lots of non-pro regulars. Are mainly into pros?
Havana would be great for pros.
I look at the difficulties that Americans have regarding Cuba as blessings. I don't want a bunch of Americans fucking up my good thing. Sure Cuba is hard for the newbie but its uniqueness and safety, along with the beautiful women, make it perfect for me. I don't see any Americans when I'm there. The Europeans are having a ball there.
The DR is a better bang for the buck but the Dominican women are hit and miss. Plus you can never really trust a Dominicana, and don't get me talking about the corrupt police and politicians. Tourists are untouchable in Cuba as long as you aren't fucking up, that alone makes it worthy. Name me some place else in the world where tourist are completely safe?
Cuba is being preserved for a limited time and I'm going to enjoy it completely while its still pure.From a punter's perspective, Cuba is awesome, as the women are absolutely gorgeous and sexy. Its sad that most Americans never meet Cuban women. In addition to the look, they've got the dance moves, and the overall intangible Latino "passion." I don't know what else to call it. Next to them, DR women don't even rate. It's an entirely different league.
Unfortunately, its bad for the girl. Someone who has never been to Cuba doesn't realize just how untouchable tourists are, especially Americans. The govt really wants that US hard currency. But prostitution is still illegal. If busted, sure they will let you go, but she is going to jail, and in a serious way. The women do it because the financial incentive is gigantic, because of the absolute uselessness of Cuban currency, and the rarity and value of true US hard currency.
If you are going to partake it, its got to be in the long term, girlfriend for a week kind of thing. ST transactions, and the venues in which they occur, make it really risky for her. So much so that I would feel like a jerk.
I look at the difficulties that Americans have regarding Cuba as blessings. I don't want a bunch of Americans fucking up my good thing. Sure Cuba is hard for the newbie but its uniqueness and safety, along with the beautiful women, make it perfect for me. I don't see any Americans when I'm there. The Europeans are having a ball there.
The DR is a better bang for the buck but the Dominican women are hit and miss. Plus you can never really trust a Dominicana, and don't get me talking about the corrupt police and politicians. Tourists are untouchable in Cuba as long as you aren't fucking up, that alone makes it worthy. Name me some place else in the world where tourist are completely safe?
Cuba is being preserved for a limited time and I'm going to enjoy it completely while its still pure.I always wanted to go to Cuba before the floodgates open. I guess I will put it on my to do list for next year.
My spanish is pretty good but since it will be a newbie trip, I will need to pick the brains of a few vets. For instance a good casa p to stay at.
Mr. Gogo,
I am not surprised with the passionate sex you've encountered in Cuba. I am surprised you were separating from the good casa setup you had! It sounds like you had an owner presenting you with lots of non-pro regulars. Are mainly into pros?
Havana would be great for pros.I'm a fickle guy like that. As I travel the world I have a tendency to not be predictable. I'm also a guy that over-thinks everything. I've learned the less people know about me the better, so I have no problem going solo.
My regular casa is cool but the whole neighborhood was watching and I wanted to start somewhere fresh in a new spot. I cruised through the old casa to take some gifts I brought and explain to the casa owner that I was wifed up in Mirramar.
But yeah I like mostly pros with an occasion non pro. I like being able to seperate my feelings when it's time to leave. Women say I can be cold but I don't trust any women outside of my Family.
Mats Naslund
06-09-14, 23:53
I have to agree with Mr Gogo on this one.
As a Canadian and after meeting tons of Europeans and Mexicans in my trips to Cuba (actually I've only met one American, a student from Duke who was super cool and had plenty of fun as a gay dude on the Malecon), We really see it as a blessing that Americans can not go easily to Cuba. In a way it is what gives Cuba its uniqueness. Of course its selfishness from our part cause right now Canadians, Italians and Germans are making a killing over there and know that has soon as the Americans join in we won't shine as much LOL.
I've travelled a bit and like Mr Gogo said it is the safest I've felt anywhere. The tourist is king and is always right. When Fidel and Raul die then Cuba will be all yours my yankee friends.
Until then I will do like my other 2 million fellow Canadians and enjoy this paradise island where the women would be known as the most beautiful of the world if they had the means to take more care of themselves.
With an average monthly salary of 25 CUC (more or less 25 CAN) all of you understand the fake nails or hair are a luxury.
I have to agree with Mr Gogo on this one.
As a Canadian and after meeting tons of Europeans and Mexicans in my trips to Cuba (actually I've only met one American, a student from Duke who was super cool and had plenty of fun as a gay dude on the Malecon), We really see it as a blessing that Americans can not go easily to Cuba. In a way it is what gives Cuba its uniqueness. Of course its selfishness from our part cause right now Canadians, Italians and Germans are making a killing over there and know that has soon as the Americans join in we won't shine as much LOL.
I've travelled a bit and like Mr Gogo said it is the safest I've felt anywhere. The tourist is king and is always right. When Fidel and Raul die then Cuba will be all yours my yankee friends.
Until then I will do like my other 2 million fellow Canadians and enjoy this paradise island where the women would be known as the most beautiful of the world if they had the means to take more care of themselves.
With an average monthly salary of 25 CUC (more or less 25 CAN) all of you understand the fake nails or hair are a luxury.It's definitely the safest monger venue in the W. Hemisphere. Also, as a serious fan of Afro-Latin music and dance, it's the Motherland. BUT, I waste a couple days having to go through a 3rd country. And I have to bring a lot of cash, since I can't use ATMs. My last visit in January, I brought down about $2 k. And that was only for only 9 or 10 days. Not an ideal set of circumstances for us EEUUs.
Wish I had a 2nd passport and / or that I could access cash somehow down there. It would be my destination of choice.
You guys are absolutely right. If and when it opens up for EEUUs, it would be spoiled in short time.
Just some notes for previous posts, prostitution is not illegal in Cuba. Avails are, and it include girls but they all pay their way out. ATM and travel: get a bank account, credit card and even passport in the third country and travel at ease to Cuba, Brazil and where ever you like, it's your right.
Just some notes for previous posts, prostitution is not illegal in Cuba. Avails are, and it include girls but they all pay their way out. ATM and travel: get a bank account, credit card and even passport in the third country and travel at ease to Cuba, Brazil and where ever you like, it's your right.Never considered the option of getting a bank account in another country. I'm wondering how easy it is to do. A Canadian issued CC is doable, but is a bank account?
Just some notes for previous posts, prostitution is not illegal in Cuba. Avails are, and it include girls but they all pay their way out. ATM and travel: get a bank account, credit card and even passport in the third country and travel at ease to Cuba, Brazil and where ever you like, it's your right.Prostitution might not be technically illegal, but it might as well be. It is illegal to aid in prostitution which includes being a pimp, introducing someone for prostitution or providing housing when you know that it will be used in the act of prostitution.
Many girls have gone to prison for prostitution, but that is not what they are charged with. There is a catch-all crime called "dangerousness" which they used against people doing things they don't like even if its not technically illegal under another law. The rule of thumb is that if a girl is caught three times in what appears to be solicitation (this is based on only what the police say and can actually just be an innocent conversation on the street) they will be sent to prison for 2 years under dangerousness. This is a lot more common than you might imagine although they have focused more on the girls in the hard-core discos more so in recent years. Most discos now have under-cover cops that watch the girls to see which ones are actively trying to pick up tourists.
BrasilSoccer0
06-10-14, 23:26
There has to be a way for Americans to get cash as they need it from a bank or ATM in Cuba!
What about the western unions in Cuba??
Maybe there is a third party that for a nominal fee can provide such service!!
There has to be a way for Americans to get cash as they need it from a bank or ATM in Cuba!
What about the western unions in Cuba??
Maybe there is a third party that for a nominal fee can provide such service!!No, there is absolutely no way. People take for granted that the US govt doesn't aggressively go after americans going to Cuba, but the truth is, there is a VERY strict trade embargo with Cuba. Our restrictions with Cuba are strangling, much worse than what we do to Iran. Realize that when you go there illegally, you are going there ILLEGALLY. You have no excuse if caught, can't complain to any US embassy, much less have the ignorance to complain that you can't get cash conveniently.
Its easy to go there, but you have to come to grips with the risks and sacrifices. Even if you go there legally, you still have to bring cash in with you. (There are ways to go legally). Only stay at hotels with an in room safe. Cuba's situation is like Venezuela. Their own cash is worthless, so the incentive to steal American hard cash is sky high.
There has to be a way for Americans to get cash as they need it from a bank or ATM in Cuba!
What about the western unions in Cuba??
Maybe there is a third party that for a nominal fee can provide such service!!Why should any company, based on the law of the USA, support any American Citizen to travel Cuba?
I have never been to Cuba. I love being in the USA and being with Americans. But it's the declared policy since several American Presidents to destroy the Castro / Cuban Communist Regime. And you fucking American ass are asking for the comfort of an ATM to deliver you USA Dollar Cash for fucking the Cuban girls?
There is something going wrong in your brain, which does not understand the basics of 'Cause' leading to 'Result' - wake up! Either you wish the comfort of an ATM, either you wish to retain USA Dollar? - or you are wishing to lift the ban on Cuba? - You cannot have the Banana and (the Carrot. You have to make a decision and stand up for it!
Never considered the option of getting a bank account in another country. I'm wondering how easy it is to do. A Canadian issued CC is doable, but is a bank account?Just comply with FATCA here. You (or a company or trust) can open an account with Scotia Bank in Dom Rep (just an example out of numerous other) or in any other country you like to travel.
Just comply with FATCA here. You (or a company or trust) can open an account with Scotia Bank in Dom Rep (just an example out of numerous other) or in any other country you like to travel.Yeah, except that if you ever get investigated, you have a highlighter bright bank account trail leading directly to your name, which then leads to jail time or a massive fine (massive as in up to $250,000).
Dude, why would you go through all this trouble just to get laid? The best thing is to try to go legally and bring your cash with you, or just pick another destination.
BrasilSoccer0
06-11-14, 06:19
Questner,
This is the positive and relative response I was expecting.
Thanks.
Just comply with FATCA here. You (or a company or trust) can open an account with Scotia Bank in Dom Rep (just an example out of numerous other) or in any other country you like to travel.
Why should any company, based on the law of the USA, support any American Citizen to travel Cuba?
I have never been to Cuba. I love being in the USA and being with Americans. But it's the declared policy since several American Presidents to destroy the Castro / Cuban Communist Regime. And you fucking American ass are asking for the comfort of an ATM to deliver you USA Dollar Cash for fucking the Cuban girls?
There is something going wrong in your brain, which does not understand the basics of 'Cause' leading to 'Result' - wake up! Either you wish the comfort of an ATM, either you wish to retain USA Dollar? - or you are wishing to lift the ban on Cuba? - You cannot have the Banana and (the Carrot. You have to make a decision and stand up for it!Settle down. The vast majority of US Citizens don't support like the ban. The problem is there is a very small group of Cuban-Americans that want the ban and are much more motivated to support it than the opponents are to lift it. It's a perfect illustration of the lobbying power of a small, but highly motivated group to subvert the majority.
Yeah, except that if you ever get investigated, you have a highlighter bright bank account trail leading directly to your name, which then leads to jail time or a massive fine (massive as in up to $250,000).
Dude, why would you go through all this trouble just to get laid? The best thing is to try to go legally and bring your cash with you, or just pick another destination.Personally, I don't go there to get laid. I go because it is a unique place. It is the cradle of Afro-Latin Music and Dance which is my passion. The Cubanas are a nice bonus.
I can get laid at home or visit a long list of other countries if it's just to get laid. I have gone three times and each time I have brought cash with me. I'm just pointing out that it is somewhat uncomfortable carrying $2,000 in cash on a trip (for me at least, some people don't seem bothered). It would be nice if one had a backup source of cash. The poster pointed out that one can get a bank account in a 3rd country and use it for ATMs in Cuba.
Yes there are legal "sanctioned" trips to Cuba for U. S. Citizens. However, these tours require you to follow a planned itinerary, which doesn't appeal to me.
Do you know of another way to go legally other than these sanctioned tours?
Personally, I don't go there to get laid. I go because it is a unique place. It is the cradle of Afro-Latin Music and Dance which is my passion. The Cubanas are a nice bonus.
I can get laid at home or visit a long list of other countries if it's just to get laid. I have gone three times and each time I have brought cash with me. I'm just pointing out that it is somewhat uncomfortable carrying $2,000 in cash on a trip (for me at least, some people don't seem bothered). It would be nice if one had a backup source of cash. The poster pointed out that one can get a bank account in a 3rd country and use it for ATMs in Cuba.
Yes there are legal "sanctioned" trips to Cuba for U. S. Citizens. However, these tours require you to follow a planned itinerary, which doesn't appeal to me.
Do you know of another way to go legally other than these sanctioned tours?All right, my bad. I love Cuba, and its a wonderful place to visit. I have a soft spot for them, which is why it irks me when it seems someone is going there to exploit them.
There is a great book called the "Cuba Information Manual. " You can buy it on Amazon. I strongly recommend you buy it. Its very frank on what the laws are, and what is involved with going to Cuba, but legally and illegally. Going legally is not a problem, it just takes some advanced legwork.
There are four ways to go to Cuba legally.
1. Exchange student.
2. Going on a mission for an internationally recognized church.
3. First degree relatives (or some kind of familial link. I don't remember exactly what.).
4. Attending a professional conference in your field being held there by an internationally recognized organization.
#4 is how many people go. These sanctioned "tours" that like JayZ went on are some twisted version of #2, something about a religous / cultural exchange. Its total BS. If we get a Republican President, that will disappear quickly.
Are you an electrical engineer? Then find an Engineering conference to go to. Its that simple. There are many laws and restrictions regarding your trip, but at least you are not looking over your shoulder.
All right, my bad. I love Cuba, and its a wonderful place to visit. I have a soft spot for them, which is why it irks me when it seems someone is going there to exploit them.
There is a great book called the "Cuba Information Manual. " You can buy it on Amazon. I strongly recommend you buy it. Its very frank on what the laws are, and what is involved with going to Cuba, but legally and illegally. Going legally is not a problem, it just takes some advanced legwork.
There are four ways to go to Cuba legally.
1. Exchange student.
2. Going on a mission for an internationally recognized church...When Jay-z and his wife went they weren't sanctioned. Initially the South Florida Republicans raised hell but they soon realized that they didn't want this topic (most Americans favor lifting the embargo). They then decided to just let it fade away.
The legal tours are a rip-off. The tour operators pay their lobbyist to petition the politicians to sanction their buisiness, then the tour operators profit by charging double what it would normally cost to go to Cuba.
My prediction is that Obama is waiting for the last year of his term to do something historic, like lifting the embargo. The Republicans won't want this fight with an election year coming up because it would make the public realize how out of sinc they are with what the people want. If this happens it won't be an open party in Cuba. Raul and the guy that will follow him after 2018 will hold onto the creed that they have built. It won't be casinos, it won't be prostitution, it will be tourism based on profit and control. To let Cuba return to the open party it was 50 years ago would diminish everything that has happened regarding the revolution, and that won't happen.
Here is one of the first reports about the Jay-z trip. After realizing that this could be a public fiasco, the US treasury department then said the trip was sanctioned. Having this trip on the front page would have opened discussion about a topic that politician don't won't to discuss. Their was no pre-approval for their trip. Can you imagine the publicity if this was to stay on the front page and become an open topic? Everyone wanted this to go away, so the best way to do this is to say the trip was sanctioned.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2013/04/jay-z-and-beyonces-cuba-trip-may-be-legal-but-they-still-might-face-sanction-trouble-.html
When Jay-z and his wife went they weren't sanctioned. Initially the South Florida Republicans raised hell but they soon realized that they didn't want this topic (most Americans favor lifting the embargo). They then decided to just let it fade away.
The legal tours are a rip-off. The tour operators pay their lobbyist to petition the politicians to sanction their buisiness, then the tour operators profit by charging double what it would normally cost to go to Cuba.
My prediction is that Obama is waiting for the last year of his term to do something historic, like lifting the embargo. The Republicans won't want this fight with an election year coming up because it would make the public realize how out of sinc they are with what the people want. If this happens it won't be an open party in Cuba. Raul and the guy that will follow him after 2018 will hold onto the creed that they have built. It won't be casinos, it won't be prostitution, it will be tourism based on profit and control. To let Cuba return to the open party it was 50 years ago would diminish everything that has happened regarding the revolution, and that won't happen.Its not a matter of being personally "sanctioned. " They went on one of those package tours that have wiggled their way through a loophole, and bribed some government official to sign off on it.
Obama won't lift the embargo. He can't. It requires an act of Congress. And if anything, Congress is getting MORE conservative, not less. Even if he could, even if he wanted to make a dramatic move upon leaving office, he would choose a different topic, maybe immigration or gun control.
Even when Fidel dies, Cuba isn't changing anytime soon. Those in power will try to keep things the same. Its true anywhere around the world.
Its not a matter of being personally "sanctioned. " They went on one of those package tours that have wiggled their way through a loophole, and bribed some government official to sign off on it.
Obama won't lift the embargo. He can't. It requires an act of Congress. And if anything, Congress is getting MORE conservative, not less. Even if he could, even if he wanted to make a dramatic move upon leaving congress, he would choose a different topic, probably on gun control.
Even when Fidel dies, Cuba isn't changing anytime soon. Those in power will try to keep things the same. Its true anywhere around the world.I agree, Cuba will not change anytime soon as we now know it. But I disagree about the Jay-z tour being being approved before they left. If that's the case why didn't Jay-z just say that when questioned? Why didn't the OFAC say it was approved? Why didn't the Treasure department initially say it was approved? Only when a few South Florida politicians questioned the trip did the Treasury department step up to get this off the front page. Don't let the media / govt dictate how you think, figure it out for yourself. Thats one of the things wrong with America, people being influenced by the press. They air negative info about a certain candidate and people buy into it without investigated for themselves, then they vote according to a tv ad. I'm going to develop an opinion about something by gathering all the facts, good and bad. In America we are free to think for ourselves.
Do you really think Obama would rather take on the NRA and all the pro-gun people VS a small group in South Florida? Here's a news flash: most Republicans know the embargo should be repealed. Instead of most Republicans saying this publicly they just don't talk about it, hoping it goes away. Republicans outside of Florida don't want to touch this losing issue.
We are internet friends and I respect what you are saying, but I don't buy into scare tactics.
When Jay-z and his wife went they weren't sanctioned. Initially the South Florida Republicans raised hell but they soon realized that they didn't want this topic (most Americans favor lifting the embargo). They then decided to just let it fade away.
The legal tours are a rip-off. The tour operators pay their lobbyist to petition the politicians to sanction their buisiness, then the tour operators profit by charging double what it would normally cost to go to Cuba.
My prediction is that Obama is waiting for the last year of his term to do something historic, like lifting the embargo. The Republicans won't want this fight with an election year coming up because it would make the public realize how out of sinc they are with what the people want. If this happens it won't be an open party in Cuba. Raul and the guy that will follow him after 2018 will hold onto the creed that they have built. It won't be casinos, it won't be prostitution, it will be tourism based on profit and control. To let Cuba return to the open party it was 50 years ago would diminish everything that has happened regarding the revolution, and that won't happen.Yes, the legal tours are very expensive. But the bigger problem with them is that your whole trip is extremely structured. I haven't done one (I've come close). But from what I understand, you have very little opportunity to do what you want to do. Everything is scheduled and you have do do what the whole group is doing and your interaction with Cubans is controlled. Not the kind of trip most of us want, even if we're not there solely for mongering.
Yes, the legal tours are very expensive. But the bigger problem with them is that your whole trip is extremely structured. I haven't done one (I've come close). But from what I understand, you have very little opportunity to do what you want to do. Everything is scheduled and you have do do what the whole group is doing and your interaction with Cubans is controlled. Not the kind of trip most of us want, even if we're not there solely for mongering.Whenever you go to Cuba legally for almost any reason, every single day has to be accounted for. That's why those tours are so structured. Unless your tour goes to outer areas, chances are you will only see Havana.
Do not join a small group organized trip to Cuba with an itinerary for the purpose of this hobby no matter where do you come from. All this trips have got a clause that ban and cancel further land arrangements for travelers suspected of hiring local talent. Even if you book a single supplement accommodation on a group tour, why risk it and alienate other travelers?
My CC and banking advice was obviously for convenience purpose only.
Obama won't lift the embargo. He can't. It requires an act of Congress. Couldn't he nullify it through executive order? http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders.
I agree, Cuba will not change anytime soon as we now know it. But I disagree about the Jay-z tour being being approved before they left. If that's the case why didn't Jay-z just say that when questioned? Why didn't the OFAC say it was approved? Why didn't the Treasure department initially say it was approved? Only when a few South Florida politicians questioned the trip did the Treasury department step up to get this off the front page. Don't let the media / govt dictate how you think, figure it out for yourself. Thats one of the things wrong with America, people being influenced by the press. They air negative info about a certain candidate and people buy into it without investigated for themselves, then they vote according to a tv ad. I'm going to develop an opinion about something by gathering all the facts, good and bad. In America we are free to think for ourselves.
Do you really think Obama would rather take on the NRA and all the pro-gun people VS a small group in South Florida? Here's a news flash: most Republicans know the embargo should be repealed. Instead of most Republicans saying this publicly they just don't talk about it, hoping it goes away. Republicans outside of Florida don't want to touch this losing issue.
We are internet friends and I respect what you are saying, but I don't buy into scare tactics.I didn't say JayZ trip was approved retroactively. That was the other guy posting. Get your responses right.
These "culture and exchange" tours are not hard to find. I just think that they are BS. Also, I wonder whether going on these tours is truly defensible. Can the govt go after you anyway?
Going to Cuba legally is not hard, it just requires some legwork. There are dozens, if not hundreds of professional conferences in Havana every year. Its one of the few ways working professionals Cuba are allowed to make international cash on the side. Just don't expect modern conveniences, like ATMs, and come to grips to the fact that your trip will be limited to where the conference is.
And yes, I think that, in order to make a splash, Obama will go after other issues. Nobody cares about Cuba, and any tourists who really want to go there find a way, legaly or illegally. And the USA can't give in. Do you know how close Cuba is to the US? 90 miles. That's it. Some people have tried to raft it. Terrorists could do some nasty things from there. We can't take our foot off the gas.
Someday soon, the Castros will die, some crappy dictators without any historical gravitas will take over, and there will be a revolution. It's happening in Venezuela right now. All we have to do is wait.
I didn't say JayZ trip was approved retroactively. That was the other guy posting. Get your responses right.
These "culture and exchange" tours are not hard to find. I just think that they are BS. Also, I wonder whether going on these tours is truly defensible. Can the govt go after you anyway?
Going to Cuba legally is not hard, it just requires some legwork. There are dozens, if not hundreds of professional conferences in Havana every year. Its one of the few ways working professionals Cuba are allowed to make international cash on the side. Just don't expect modern conveniences, like ATMs, and come to grips to the fact that your trip will be limited to where the conference is.
And yes, I think that, in order to make a splash, Obama will go after other issues. Nobody cares about Cuba, and any tourists who really want to go there find a way, legaly or illegally. And the USA can't give in. Do you know how close Cuba is to the US? 90 miles. That's it. Some people have tried to raft it. Terrorists could do some nasty things from there. We can't take our foot off the gas.
Someday soon, the Castros will die, some crappy dictators without any historical gravitas will take over, and there will be a revolution. It's happening in Venezuela right now. All we have to do is wait.What are you talking about buddy? I went back three pages and the only person talking about the Jay-z trip was you.
How can the govt go after a group that they sanctioned? "We can't take our foot off the gas", what are you talking about? Cuba is not a threat to America. Cuba wants an equal relationship with America. Its America that is saying no. Its US citizens that want to go there but America says no, its US buisiness that want to go there but America says no. How does this policy benefit anyone? Its about the US wanting control.
I think you are 50 years behind because the revolution has already happened. I read a lot about Cuban history. Initially Castro wanted Cuba for the Cuban people and the corrupt American businesses (Casinos, prostitution) out and he was successful. Where Castro messed up IMO was when he took the wealth from the Cuban people. With that said; Over 80 percent of the jobs in Cuba are govt jobs (military, police etc), Castro has a strong hold on the people. Hopefully we will see some of the wealth trickle down to the normal Cubans, that will be the change not some govt takeover.
Obama won't lift the embargo. He can't. It requires an act of Congress. And if anything, Congress is getting MORE conservative, not less.
This recent news story seems to imply Obama could do it: http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-says-she-urged-end-cuba-embargo-030702232--politics.html
"In her new book, former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says she pushed President Barack Obama to lift or ease the decades-long USA Embargo on Cuba because it was no longer useful to American interests or promoting change on the communist island.
In excerpts of the book "Hard Choices" obtained by The Associated Press ahead of its release next week, Clinton writes that the embargo has given communist leaders Fidel and Raul Castro an excuse not to enact democratic reforms.
"Since 1960, the United States had maintained an embargo against the island in hopes of squeezing Castro from power, but it only succeeded in giving him a foil to blame for Cuba's economic woes," she writes. She says her husband, former President Bill Clinton, tried to improve relations with Cuba in the 1990's, but the Castro government did not respond to the easing in some sanctions. Nonetheless, Obama was determined to continue the effort, she writes.
She says that late in her term in office she urged Obama to reconsider the USA Embargo. "It wasn't achieving its goals," she writes, "and it was holding back our broader agenda across Latin America. . I thought we should shift the onus onto the Castros to explain why they remained undemocratic and abusive. ".
what are you talking about buddy? i went back three pages and the only person talking about the jay-z trip was you.
how can the govt go after a group that they sanctioned? "we can't take our foot off the gas", what are you talking about? cuba is not a threat to america. cuba wants an equal relationship with america. its america that is saying no. its us citizens that want to go there but america says no, its us buisiness that want to go there but america says no. how does this policy benefit anyone? its about the us wanting control.
i think you are 50 years behind because the revolution has already happened. i read a lot about cuban history. initially castro wanted cuba for the cuban people and the corrupt american businesses (casinos, prostitution) out and he was successful. where castro messed up imo was when he took the wealth from the cuban people. with that said; over 80 percent of the jobs in cuba are govt jobs (military, police etc), castro has a strong hold on the people. hopefully we will see some of the wealth trickle down to the normal cubans, that will be the change not some govt takeover.go back and read carefully. maybe it was you who said that it was retroactively sanctioned. it sure as heck wasn't me.
and we can't take our foot off the gas. can you imagine the harm terrorists could do with a safe haven 90 miles from an american coastline? terrorists could get a suitcase nuke into miami via speedboat.
i could care less about the communist goals or fidel's philosphy. they can believe in mickey mouse for all i care. the bottom line is that they are anti-us. if you really have been to havana then you probably went to that museum near downtown dedicated solely to exposing usa imperialism and evil. the cuban government is not our friend, even though its citizens may want to be. and you can't have someone who hates us like they do so close to our citizens.
go back and read carefully. maybe it was you who said that it was retroactively sanctioned. it sure as heck wasn't me.
and we can't take our foot off the gas. can you imagine the harm terrorists could do with a safe haven 90 miles from an american coastline? terrorists could get a suitcase nuke into miami via speedboat.
i could care less about the communist goals or fidel's philosphy. they can believe in mickey mouse for all i care. the bottom line is that they are anti-us. if you really have been to havana then you probably went to that museum near downtown dedicated solely to exposing usa imperialism and evil. the cuban government is not our friend, even though its citizens may want to be. and you can't have someone who hates us like they do so close to our citizens.we can end this now by agreeing to disagree buddy. you think cuba is out to get america, i get it. you are strong with your opinion so there is no use for me to continue this conversation, good luck to you.
My hope is for people who say negative things about Cuba to stay out of Cuba. The Cubans can do without those bad vibes. I have never been to Cuba. From what I read on this board Cuba is a very safe beautiful country with beautiful people. What do we think of America?
Up to 1991 (or was it 1990?) I could see the argument for the travel embargo and other sanctions. Cuba, as proxy for the Soviet Union, was legitimately a threat to the US. However, these days, Cuba is no threat to the US. In fact, I think if there was a threat, it would be the reverse. If US businesses, as well as travellers, were heavily involved in Cuba, it might be the end of the Castros. It's quite obvious to most of the Cuban people that the regime they've had for the last 50+ years hasn't helped the country keep up with the rest of the World.
Up to 1991 (or was it 1990?) I could see the argument for the travel embargo and other sanctions. Cuba, as proxy for the Soviet Union, was legitimately a threat to the US. However, these days, Cuba is no threat to the US. In fact, I think if there was a threat, it would be the reverse. If US businesses, as well as travellers, were heavily involved in Cuba, it might be the end of the Castros. It's quite obvious to most of the Cuban people that the regime they've had for the last 50+ years hasn't helped the country keep up with the rest of the World.Look, of course we want to work things out with Cuba. That would be the best possible outcome, especially for our national security. But the current regime just doesn't like the USA. Its mostly due to historical stuff and bad blood, but it still exists. Of course, the PEOPLE would love to be best buddies with the US, but the people are not the regime. The people hate the regime. And yes, some of tht bad blood is on OUR side too.
This is a case where the people are a victim of the regime, including by proxy, our hostile actions. And maybe there is a different way to do things. But there IS a logic to the embargo.
The best thing would be for there to be a "Cuban Spring" where the people rebelled to the Castro regime, and we helped the rebels. I strongly believe that will happen shortly after Fidel and Raul die.
I must visit Cuba before the "Cuban Spring". After that we may have crime, high prices, bad service by the chicas, etc. Or perhaps no service at all like Libya, Syria, etc.
http://news.yahoo.com/miami-exiles-pressure-u-loosen-policy-cuba-162210909.html?bcmt=comments-postbox
Miami exiles pressure USA To loosen policy on Cuba.
But after 53 years in the United States, the former manager of the city of Miami swallowed his pride and decided he had waited long enough.
Arriola, 67, said a week-long trip to the island last year had opened his eyes to what he now believes is a failed USA Policy of trying to isolate Cuba.
"Our president has not had the guts to do the right thing," said Arriola, who helped raise funds for Barack Obama's campaign and whose son, Ricky, sits on the President's Committee on the Arts and the Humanities.
But a poll released on Tuesday by Florida International University shows the exile community is tilting in favor of change, with a majority favoring closer ties with the communist-run island.
The poll found that 52 percent of Cuban-Americans surveyed in Miami-Dade County oppose continuing the embargo. An even greater majority - 68 percent. Favor diplomatic relations with Cuba, while 69 percent favor lifting travel restrictions to Cuba for all Americans.
Such widespread sentiment could ease the way for the Obama administration to revise USA -Cuba policy by permitting greater travel and commercial activity to help an emerging private sector on the island.
650,000 people, mostly Cuban-Americans, will travel between Cuba and the United States this year. The exiles will also send $3 billion in cash remittances.
A chorus of voices from Hillary Clinton, former secretary of state under Obama, to John Negroponte, the director of national intelligence under President George W. Bush, have recently spoken in favor of rethinking Cuba policy.
The head of the USA Chamber of Commerce visited Cuba last month and praised Havana's free-market reforms, saying the USA Trade embargo was an impediment for American companies.
Going to Cuba has long been a dream of mine. Now, that my divorce is finalized and my ex-wife not nagging me about going to a third world country, (what is a third world country anyways. Cuba has better education and health care than most countries. Sorry, I digress) I am now finally going to Cuba. Santiago and Havana. I will be there for total of 2 weeks. I have read the forum extensively. I have done my homework and bought myself a membership. But I am still nervous about a few things.
I was wondering if any of you could provide me some contact information for the following. If you want to send me a private message that would be good as well. I promise I will post useful reports and contribute to the community.
1) I am looking for cab drivers / local guides who speak a little bit of English. My Spanish is poor and I am still learning. So, if I can use a regular cab driver / local guides that will show me around that would be great.
2) I would like to book casas that are girl friendly. I understand getting girls in and out of Casa is not a straight forward proposition. So, if you have contact information of some good casas that will be awesome.
3) I am not going to Cuba for sport fucking. I would be happy if I find a hottie who will hang out with me for the whole week. I want to go to salsa clubs, music venues, restaurant, etc. If you know any girls and pass on the contact info to me, I promise I will treat them well.
Of course, I also look forward to venture out on my own and find some gems. I will definitely report back on these gems. I am now free to go to a lot of mongering places. Cannot wait to try them all.
Going to Cuba has long been a dream of mine. Now, that my divorce is finalized and my ex-wife not nagging me about going to a third world country, (what is a third world country anyways. Cuba has better education and health care than most countries. Sorry, I digress) I am now finally going to Cuba. Santiago and Havana. I will be there for total of 2 weeks. I have read the forum extensively. I have done my homework and bought myself a membership. But I am still nervous about a few things.
I was wondering if any of you could provide me some contact information for the following. If you want to send me a private message that would be good as well. I promise I will post useful reports and contribute to the community.
1) I am looking for cab drivers / local guides who speak a little bit of English. My Spanish is poor and I am still learning..l.Hello Sir,
IMO Cuba is not your spot if you are coming out of an divorce. Go to Sosua and have a ball. It is gringo friendly, easy to navigate and has a beach. It also has nice outer towns close by like Cabarette and Puerto Plata to do day trips. The girls are everywhere in the DR.
Cuba is hard on first timers so don't waste your time if you are coming out of a marriage. And stop the GFE thing please. You are free now have fun with a lot of girls to break the spell. Good luck Sir.
http://news.yahoo.com/miami-exiles-pressure-u-loosen-policy-cuba-162210909.html?bcmt=comments-postbox
Miami exiles pressure USA To loosen policy on Cuba.
But after 53 years in the United States, the former manager of the city of Miami swallowed his pride and decided he had waited long enough.
Arriola, 67, said a week-long trip to the island last year had opened his eyes to what he now believes is a failed USA Policy of trying to isolate Cuba.
"Our president has not had the guts to do the right thing," said Arriola, who helped raise funds for Barack Obama's campaign and whose son, Ricky, sits on the President's Committee on the Arts and the Humanities.
...Even if only 30% favor keeping the embargo, that 30% is very vocal and usually get their way. The dynamic is the same as the NRA gun lobby.
Which is fine by me because we should keep the trade embargo up. Cuba needs to be USA friendly, for our own sake. And if there is a militantly anti-US regime in place, than the pedal needs to stay on the floor until they change their mind or are overthrown.
Hello Sir,
IMO Cuba is not your spot if you are coming out of an divorce. Go to Sosua and have a ball. It is gringo friendly, easy to navigate and has a beach. It also has nice outer towns close by like Cabarette and Puerto Plata to do day trips. The girls are everywhere in the DR.
Cuba is hard on first timers so don't waste your time if you are coming out of a marriage. And stop the GFE thing please. You are free now have fun with a lot of girls to break the spell. Good luck Sir.I would have to agree. Sosua, Medellin or Panama would be a better choice. After being married and finally getting free, why waste a whole week on one girl. That's like being married all over again. Worse, you can stay home and do that.
I would have to agree. Sosua, Medellin or Panama would be a better choice. After being married and finally getting free, why waste a whole week on one girl. That's like being married all over again. Worse, you can stay home and do that.+2.
Cuba is Advanced Punting and Advanced Tourism. Not a good place for casual guys to cut loose. You have to be methodical and detail oriented in many ways just to stay on the good side of the law.
If you really want an easy, affordable party haven, I think that the DR would better suit your needs for latino women, Thailand for asian women, or Germany for European women.
+2.
Cuba is Advanced Punting and Advanced Tourism. Not a good place for casual guys to cut loose. You have to be methodical and detail oriented in many ways just to stay on the good side of the law.
If you really want an easy, affordable party haven, I think that the DR would better suit your needs for latino women, Thailand for asian women, or Germany for European women.I will eventually go to all those places. I am going to Cuba for other reasons. So this is not really a mongering trip. But while I am there, I want to make the best use of time. Also, I thought of not trying to find too many girls because I read on the forum that Cuba is not a straight forward place when it comes to mongering. So, I gathered that a safe option would be to get a nice hottie and not worry about not getting into too much of a trouble. Of course, if I am in Sosua or Thailand, it is a different ball game all together.
I will eventually go to all those places. I am going to Cuba for other reasons. So this is not really a mongering trip. But while I am there, I want to make the best use of time. Also, I thought of not trying to find too many girls because I read on the forum that Cuba is not a straight forward place when it comes to mongering. So, I gathered that a safe option would be to get a nice hottie and not worry about not getting into too much of a trouble. Of course, if I am in Sosua or Thailand, it is a different ball game all together.Good for you! Which parts are you going to? I've always enjoyed Cuba and its on the top of my list along with Venezuela, which I have yet to visit but have met many stunning fine women from there.
Even if only 30% favor keeping the embargo, that 30% is very vocal and usually get their way. The dynamic is the same as the NRA gun lobby.
Which is fine by me because we should keep the trade embargo up. Cuba needs to be USA friendly, for our own sake. And if there is a militantly anti-US regime in place, than the pedal needs to stay on the floor until they change their mind or are overthrown.I could care less about Fidel and Raul. I do like being able to go somewhere and not see the monger crowd from the USA. Cuba fits that bill right now. I'm able to avoid those folks in Colombia as well.
Good for you! Which parts are you going to? I've always enjoyed Cuba and its on the top of my list along with Venezuela, which I have yet to visit but have met many stunning fine women from there.I plan to spend a week in Santiago and then a week in Havana. If you have any pointers and / or contact info I would appreciate if PM me.
Thanks
I plan to spend a week in Santiago and then a week in Havana. If you have any pointers and / or contact info I would appreciate if PM me.
ThanksCan some at least point me to a good Casa I can book. Good meaning. It is OK to bring a girl back home, is close to the night clubs and has decent amenities.
Thanks
Can some at least point me to a good Casa I can book. Good meaning. It is OK to bring a girl back home, is close to the night clubs and has decent amenities.
ThanksHopefully you are familiar with this site: http://thecubanhouses.com/.
ShakeForMe
06-22-14, 10:32
A Latino friend of mine just came back from Cuba a few months ago. He had told his woman, a Santiaguera, that he was coming months in advance. He was planning to hang out in Havana for a day, head to Trinidad for about 2 days, then go to Santiago to spend time with her. Somehow, she talked him into having her meet him at the airport in Havana. So she traveled to Havana, met him at the airport and the whole thing was a nightmare for him although he had been to Cuba several times before AND was a fluent Spanish speaker.
I had actually advised him against the idea of his chica meeting him at Jose Marti airport when he was in the process of planning his trip. He said he missed her so much and wanted to maximize the amount of time they would spend together, now he never wants to see her again. He told me that his trip would have been better of she had just met him at the Viazul bus station in Santiago. Es Cuba!
What actually happened that he never wants to see her again?
Please name a few casas in a good location of Havana.
Hopefully you are familiar with this site: http://thecubanhouses.com/.
A Latino friend of mine just came back from Cuba a few months ago. He had told his woman, a Santiaguera, that he was coming months in advance. He was planning to hang out in Havana for a day, head to Trinidad for about 2 days, then go to Santiago to spend time with her. Somehow, she talked him into having her meet him at the airport in Havana. So she traveled to Havana, met him at the airport and the whole thing was a nightmare for him although he had been to Cuba several times before AND was a fluent Spanish speaker.
I had actually advised him against the idea of his chica meeting him at Jose Marti airport when he was in the process of planning his trip. He said he missed her so much and wanted to maximize the amount of time they would spend together, now he never wants to see her again. He told me that his trip would have been better of she had just met him at the Viazul bus station in Santiago. Es Cuba!
What actually happened that he never wants to see her again?To summarize, she was super clingy and controlling, as if she was afraid he was going to leave her and hook up with another chica. For men, Cuba is a visual joy, with all the tight clothes and short skirts, and she kept on calling him out for not paying her more attention (WTF! She also tried to get him to spend as much money as possible, and wanted him to reimburse her around 120 CUC for the flight she claimed she took from Santiago to Havana to meet him. The idea of coming to Havana was hers, and she had never mentioned she was going to fly there. In another situation, they were going sightseeing and she said she knew someone with a taxi (That is normal in Cuba), but the person charged him 35 CUC for a trip that should not have cost more than 20 CUC. When he protested he thought she would join in and support him but she just stood there and said nothing (Partly his fault for not having negotiated the price in advance, but.). When they went to a paladar she invited her mom and uncle at the very last minute, and kinda failed to ask him about it first. He would not have objected, but was pissed she did not. And on and on.
Basically, he figured that at least the Havana and Trinidad part of his trip would have been nicer had he been alone. So beware those who want to travel with a woman they do not know well.
Hi fellow mongers,
Starting with a question. I am taking a first timer to Cuba (myself is fairly new as been to Cameguey twice and was helped by a family who worked in hotel so all worked good for the most part).
Now this guy wants to go to Havana. The tickets now is $700+ for hotel + flights. I want to book flights only and land there go to a casa which is again, "Safe", chica friendly, English speaking, close to discos, no police, etc.
I know I am asking the biggest trade secret here but please do help me out as I need a partner in crime for future and wants to make him feel good in there.
Much appreciated!
Soon to be expert monger.
As I have said before, it's best for each individual to do their own foot work regarding finding a good casa that fits them.
Check into a regular hotel for a couple days and find a Chica that speaks English to hangout with you for the afternoon as you walk around Havana checking out casas. If you drink you might want a casa owner who also drinks. If you smoke you might want a casa that's smoke friendly. I would stay away from casas with small childen because of the noise factor.
Cubans are very social and will introduce you to nice females if you don't act like a dog.
Guys here are reluctant to give up their casa info because some of you rude guys will fuck up a good thing they have going.
As I said before; Use your first trip as a scout trip to prepare for future trips. Some guys here aren't willing to take the time to set things up, they want everything perfect their first time. It won't happen fellas.
BrasilSoccer0
06-24-14, 21:37
Mr. Gogo,
I Soo sooo agree with what you said. Especially sharing a casa for the same reason you mentioned. My casa lady is so nice I can't see an asshole I refer to her coming drunk with scandalous jineteras and causing her to lose her house.
One advice I can add to that is: OnCe you find a good casa the owner is not going to trust you right away. You'll have to earn it by not bringing PROBLEMS back to the casa. I have such a trust already built that she doesn't even have to see who comes in with me. But you need to protect those kind of casa owners cause they are in violation of the system.
As I have said before, it's best for each individual to do their own foot work regarding finding a good casa that fits them.
Check into a regular hotel for a couple days and find a Chica that speaks English to hangout with you for the afternoon as you walk around Havana checking out casas. If you drink you might want a casa owner who also drinks. If you smoke you might want a casa that's smoke friendly. I would stay away from casas with small childen because of the noise factor.
Cubans are very social and will introduce you to nice females if you don't act like a dog.
Guys here are reluctant to give up their casa info because some of you rude guys will fuck up a good thing they have going.
As I said before; Use your first trip as a scout trip to prepare for future trips. Some guys here aren't willing to take the time to set things up, they want everything perfect their first time. It won't happen fellas.
Nik,
You keep asking for a lot of information, but refuse to post a trip report on your past trips to Cuba.
Hi fellow mongers,
Starting with a question. I am taking a first timer to Cuba (myself is fairly new as been to Cameguey twice and was helped by a family who worked in hotel so all worked good for the most part).
Now this guy wants to go to Havana. The tickets now is $700+ for hotel + flights. I want to book flights only and land there go to a casa which is again, "Safe", chica friendly, English speaking, close to discos, no police, etc.
I know I am asking the biggest trade secret here but please do help me out as I need a partner in crime for future and wants to make him feel good in there.
Much appreciated!
Soon to be expert monger.
I stayed in four casas long term (more than a day) and three casas short term (two hours), and there are some things you guys need to know. Its not flamboyant at all, so if you are looking for certain amenities you will be sad. Certain Cuba veterans have told me I'm giving up too much info but I feel the basics are needed so no one makes mistakes.
Casas:
You won't see central A /C like in most places, there is usually one A /C unit in one room like the bedroom. Its that window unit reserved for one room of the house. The is usually a double bed, not a queen or king sized bed. The showers might have cold water. One had no running water in the shower just a bucket full of water. You take half the water to water down then soap up and the rest of the bucket to rinse. They boil water to drink and cook with. There is usually one small be / w tv for one room. No internet, cable or wifi. Privacy is usually a flimsy curtain. No toilet seat, just bend over and squat. I'm not trying to scare you guys just being real.
You guys need to know this, so if you're a preppie guy stick to the 4 star hotels.
BrasilSoccer0
06-26-14, 05:10
The casa I always stay in had my room upstairs but her son's room was also upstairs across but we each had doors you can shut.
And yes my room had a basic window aircondition unit with an on / off switch. And one tiny TV that I don't care for. I bring my portable Bluetooth speaker for entertainment.
For transport, I use a bicitaxi. I got to also know the next door neighbor who has a decent car he keeps in top shape. I ask him if he could give me a ride (he is pensioned) for 4-5 cuc and he always does. But my main mode of transports are my feet.
The food there generally sucks! I am lucky my casa lady is a morena and as it has always been my experience they are the best cooks! So I just eat in the casa. And the chicas like her food too. But I must admit, I am a big big big fan of those small pizzas they sell from a home oven for around 25 cents. You just wait inline and hope they don't run out when it's your turn. LOL.
The shower has a shower head heater. It has wires showing. So I just unplug it. Cold showers are the norm. On some nights you would wish for warm showers but most showers in the day time just fine and refreshing.
Water pressure is not like back home. And sometimes it drops down to a trickle in the middle of a shower sometimes with a hot chica with me showering. I have to yell from the shower to the casa lady to activate some outside pump. This is life in the province in Cuba. LOL.
With living in a province, you'll get a rude awakening with roosters at around 4-6 am. That I still can't get used to.
But what makes all of that worth it: The quality of women you'll encounter there!
But, also, since I travel to other destinations especially Medellin Colombia, I sometimes question the hardships / inconveniences I put myself through to spend some quality time with a cubana when I can enjoy better food options, entertainments, movie theatre, freedom with chicas on the open!
That's probably why I haven't been there in the last couple of yrs and instead visited three other countries.
One big hassle is you need to bring cash if your an American. Which means you have to PRE-calculate all your expenses and better not go over. That's the main reason I haven't been back. Who wants to worry about running out of money when in vacation?!
Last but not least.
Service in Cuba is not the same as in the west! They are not going to serve you with a smile! And sometimes you'll wait for long before they realize they may have made a mistake! Don't EXPECT an apology. LOL.
Just recall you can leave when you want to. They can't and as exotic as their lives are to most of us, it is their destiny. So you need to fill your tank to the max before arriving to Cuba with something called "PATIENCE".
The casa I always stay in had my room upstairs but her son's room was also upstairs across but we each had doors you can shut.
And yes my room had a basic window aircondition unit with an on / off switch. And one tiny TV that I don't care for. I bring my portable Bluetooth speaker for entertainment.
For transport, I use a bicitaxi. I got to also know the next door neighbor who has a decent car he keeps in top shape. I ask him if he could give me a ride (he is pensioned) for 4-5 cuc and he always does. But my main mode of transports are my feet.
The food there generally sucks! I am lucky my casa lady is a morena and as it has always been my experience they are the best cooks! So I just eat in the casa. And the chicas like her food too. But I must admit, I am a big big big fan of those small pizzas they sell from a home oven for around 25 cents. You just wait inline and hope they don't run out when it's your turn. LOL.
The shower has a shower head heater. It has wires showing. So I just unplug it. Cold showers are the norm. On some nights you would wish for warm showers but most showers in the day time just fine and refreshing.
Water pressure is not like back home. And sometimes it drops down to a trickle in the middle of a shower sometimes with a hot chica with me showering. I have to yell from the shower to the casa lady to activate some outside pump. This is life in the province in Cuba. LOL.
With living in a province, you'll get a rude awakening with roosters at around 4-6 am. That I still can't get used to.
But what makes all of that worth it: The quality of women you'll encounter there!
But, also, since I travel to other destinations especially Medellin Colombia, I sometimes question the hardships / inconveniences I put myself through to spend some quality time with a cubana when I can enjoy better food options, entertainments, movie theatre, freedom with chicas on the open!
That's probably why I haven't been there in the last couple of yrs and instead visited three other countries.
One big hassle is you need to bring cash if your an American. Which means you have to PRE-calculate all your expenses and better not go over. That's the main reason I haven't been back. Who wants to worry about running out of money when in vacation?!
Last but not least.
Service in Cuba is not the same as in the west! They are not going to serve you with a smile! And sometimes you'll wait for long before they realize they may have made a mistake! Don't EXPECT an apology. LOL.
Just recall you can leave when you want to. They can't and as exotic as their lives are to most of us, it is their destiny. So you need to fill your tank to the max before arriving to Cuba with something called "PATIENCE".+1. Well said, and an accurate description of Havana / Cuba.
NewGuyCuba
06-27-14, 22:00
Hi guys,
Off to Cuba for the second time next week with my buddy, thanks to all the guys who report on this site its been a great help.
I was in Cuba last year with a few friends had a great time even tho we didn't have that much info and were just with hardcore pros from the clubs but this year I have a better idea of how things work thanks to hours on this site.
This year the plan is a couple of nights in old Havana (have all the reading done on Havana and where to go I think) and then make our way down to Camaguey, Holguin, and Santiago, we got nearly three weeks, the mabey last couple of nights in Guanabo.
Got a couple of questions, our Spanish is s**t but I got a good iphone app that works offline (hopefully I hang on to it for the duration of the holiday LOL) will that be a major problem with chicas down in the provinces, reading other reports I see some guys get Cuban guys to set them up ect, if anyone got details for guys to show us round in some of the citys please PM me.
From reading reports Camaguey, Holguin seem like cool citys for sight seeing and local p4 p girls, but from reading the Santiago forum it look terrible for mongering?? Is this true, what other citys would ye guys recommend to visit.
So heading early next week so I be back with some good reports no doubt, If any fellow mongers like to hook up send me your details.
BeersTerry
06-28-14, 02:38
4 -6 am? The fucking roosters are crowing all night long in el campo.
There are good restaurants in Havana. You just got to find them. There are at least 6 decent Italian restaurants owned by Italians.
The thing with Cuba is that, there is generally no issue with your personal safety, that is so long as you are not trying to rip off your puta or dealing with the drug element.
I like Havana, at least there are things to do when you are not fucking. What are you doing in Medellin? You can go up into the barrios and walk around centro so many times. That or drink coffee with the Park Ileras gringos. If you are looking for a fuckfest, then Medellin is the place. I can't fuck twice a day every day anymore so I have to find other things to do that don't involve talking to the putas.
BrasilSoccer0
06-28-14, 05:10
I just wish I had a convenient access to my checking account! Or just an access if any at all!
In my experience no woman can make love to you like a Cubana! That and the fact that there still is an innocence from western pop culture and consumerism is what attracts me to Cuba.
I'll have to consider opening an account somewhere else probably to enjoy Cuba without limits. Who knows maybe a DR or Colombian bank!!
But it's less tempting when a country that no one recognizes like Transnistria actually allows me to withdraw American dollars with a cost of only 1% to me and not even ATM charges!!
What's the current going rate for taxis from La Rampa to downtown and from La Rampa out to the clubs in Miramar? I use "taxis" as a generic term, but if anyone wants to offer a breakout for taxis vs coco taxis vs collectivos that woud be great. Haven't been in a few years and would like to know what to offer up as a reasonable price instead of having to ask what they want.
Thanks in advance guys!
Which area can you recommend for a first time visitor.
I stayed in four casas long term (more than a day) and three casas short term (two hours), and there are some things you guys need to know. Its not flamboyant at all, so if you are looking for certain amenities you will be sad. Certain Cuba veterans have told me I'm giving up too much info but I feel the basics are needed so no one makes mistakes.
Casas:
You won't see central A /C like in most places, there is usually one A /C unit in one room like the bedroom. Its that window unit reserved for one room of the house. The is usually a double bed, not a queen or king sized bed. The showers might have cold water. One had no running water in the shower just a bucket full of water. You take half the water to water down then soap up and the rest of the bucket to rinse. They boil water to drink and cook with. There is usually one small be / w tv for one room. No internet, cable or wifi. Privacy is usually a flimsy curtain. No toilet seat, just bend over and squat. I'm not trying to scare you guys just being real.
You guys need to know this, so if you're a preppie guy stick to the 4 star hotels.
Which area can you recommend for a first time visitor.I like Havana El Centro. You can walk to everything. Great for sightseeing, great for music and entertainment at night, and completely safe.
What about Vedado and the Old Town.
Thanks for your posts.
I like Havana El Centro. You can walk to everything. Great for sightseeing, great for music and entertainment at night, and completely safe.
Gold Toothed Bicitaxi.
A month ago in Havana a bicitaxi driver shocked me when he smiled, he had 4 or 5 gleaming gold crowns. Now dentistry work is cheap but gold is gold. I was paying 1 cuc for short trips and 2 cuc for 15 block trips. Maybe the gringo price, but 2 different chicas I spent time with told me that was the rate. But maybe the old story, side with the local not the gringo. Price seemed high compared to 1 cuc in a collectivo from parque central out to vedado. I paid 3 cuc to go from parque central out to the viazul bus terminal ,20 min trip, to buy a ticket, in 53 chev taxi, taxiis waiting there wanted 10 cuc to return to centro, hailed one on street for 5 cuc. Returning to see my chica next month, some nites we stay at her place, water supply is a 45 gal barrel, shower is a dipper in a 5 gal pail with water heated on the 2 burner stove, her place is on the top floor so when it rains 8 to 10 basins are put out to catch the water dripping from the ceiling. The fun part is drinking white rum from her belly button on her washboard flat tummy while listening to the water dripping from the 16 foot high ceiling. God I love Cubanas, even more than Colombianas from Medellin. But only a little more.
BeersTerry
06-30-14, 17:10
The thing is, some of those bicitaxis will quote you more than a motorized taxi. They will tell you cycling is hard work yadda yadda yadda.
La Rampa to Habana vieja should be $3 - $5 depending on where you go, ie $5 if you are going around to Havana Club museum or train station but generally speaking $3.
If you can stand it, take a maquina for about $. 40 or 10 pesos nacional, you got to get on San Lazaero? Wave them down and tell them Prado and get dropped off at Hotel Inglaterra or Telegrafo. It is always a nice little walk to the squares in Habana Vieja scouting talent along the way.
This is the chica I wrote about in my posting Gold toothed bicitaxi driver. I met her in May in centro Havana, I am returning July 22.
Please post a report on return. Don't see a report on your last trip to Cuba?
Hi guys,
Off to Cuba for the second time next week with my buddy, thanks to all the guys who report on this site its been a great help.
I was in Cuba last year with a few friends had a great time even tho we didn't have that much info and were just with hardcore pros from the clubs but this year I have a better idea of how things work thanks to hours on this site.
This year the plan is a couple of nights in old Havana (have all the reading done on Havana and where to go I think) and then make our way down to Camaguey, Holguin, and Santiago, we got nearly three weeks, the mabey last couple of nights in Guanabo.
Got a couple of questions, our Spanish is s**t but I got a good iphone app that works offline (hopefully I hang on to it for the duration of the holiday LOL) will that be a major problem with chicas down in the provinces, reading other reports I see some guys get Cuban guys to set them up ect, if anyone got details for guys to show us round in some of the citys please PM me.
From reading reports Camaguey, Holguin seem like cool citys for sight seeing and local p4 p girls, but from reading the Santiago forum it look terrible for mongering?? Is this true, what other citys would ye guys recommend to visit.
So heading early next week so I be back with some good reports no doubt, If any fellow mongers like to hook up send me your details..
Since help here seems only available to people who write reports. Here goes mine. Its short because nothing much happened and my memories faded as well. I found this site later.
So my friend recommended Cameguey (Amigo Mayanabo hotel) as he's been there and they allow chicas and told me to go on a weekday so that a 7 day trip would conveniently cover the weekends. So we left on a Thursday, giving us (and my friend) to find a middleman and settle-down on to the hotel / surroundings / mongering scene.
Thursday night. We visit the nearby open-bar sort-of dancefloor (forgot name) and everyone was looking at us weird. We went back and slept since we arrived at 10 PM and was tired.
Friday, we left early to venture out more and decided to take a horse-back tour of the area. As we rode, the owner of the tour spoke English and said he will introduce us to local chickas as well as take us to Coco beach next day morning. We said sure. That evening he brought some semi-pros who were probably 20's. Only problem is that we acted kinda desperate and they noticed it (both the middleman and chicas) so we went on a horseback ride on to the beach towards pier there and on-wards to the beach which was empty. The girls wanted to have sex on beach which was sort of forced upon both of us. Knowing we would get some action, we had some condoms so we started the action. Both couples went into bushes while horseman waited in beach. Everything seemed forced so I decided to end it with the girl who was with me and came to the clearing / beach. My friend was there. He said he didn't like the girl but said the girl was crazy and was sexual. Apparently he did not even touch her.
As we went back on the horses, the horseman demanded $10/ horse and $30/ chica. We were furious of course but paid the horse amount but $30 for both chica since nothing happened as far as sex goes. He mumbled but took it. After reading this forum, I believe he maybe really rich but uses the horse to connect to tourists. He also sells counterfoil Viagra & cigars which never brought.
That night, me and my friend had argument about how things went on so we decided that for the chick scene we would go separately but keep each other informed. We went to the open-bar that was next to our hotel on Friday night and saw the chica who was hooked with me earlier. Nobody but a young guy approached and he was pretty cool and knew English. He was our 2nd middleman and the one who lasted till the end of trip.
Saturday.
Next day, we went to Coco beach with horseman on his 2-horse carriage and tried to score some chicks but there were none. We took the 2nd middleman with us and he said the 1st one is (obviously) robbing us. The 1st one / horseman (obviously) arranged a meal for us a a local house which was fish, steamed rice and some plantation chips. He later charged $30 for horse-carriage and $10/ lunch. Again, we were furious as the young guy told us about how things works and how we are getting ripped off.
That night we both went to the open-bar and I saw the chick that my friend rejected on the previous day. She came up and asked for a $1 for drinks. I brought her drinks (5) and by that time, the 2nd middleman came to us and asked me if I like her. I said yes and off we went to hotel (back side) - upon arriving there, the security guard strictly said "no" to letting women in.
So the 2nd middleman (from now on the only one) introduced us to a taxi guy who charged $5 for about a 1 - 2 km during which the young guy would knock on doors. We ended paying $10 for rooms and $25 for the chika (my friend found another).
Now the chika my friend said was very feisty and energetic. She got on me and did all the deeds happily. At the end of the session, I decided that was it for me for the night as I was tired. I left with her to nearby shop and brought her some food and left for hotel (my friend was at hotel by this time).
The following days were vague. However, all we did is, go to the open-bar, score chics, rent taxi, go rent rooms and repeat. Chiks weren't that great in terms of body and facial but knew the game. And I later learned someone would knock on the rented room door after 1 hour which was a huge disappointment. Each night it would cost each of us $10 in drinks for chika and middleman (he would get drunk off both of our drinks / cigarettes), $10 for taxi, $10 for 1 hr room and another $30 per chica on average including tips costing us. The rooms never had AC but only a fan which means we never asked for full night rent.
In addition to mongering, we did on on expeditions and went on to Coco beach alone on scooter. The trip overall was a good experience when we counter in the number of good people we met, such as the 2nd middleman's family who cooked us good food, expeditions (paid of course) to other places via bus, experience of culture, and the fact that chicas would come to us after a while and we got to choose.
Please post a report on return. Don't see a report on your last trip to Cuba?
.Very helpful report for other first time visitors. My recommendation has always been, experience Havana first, then if you have time venture into the hinterlands. My chica experiences in Cienfuegos and Trinidad never come close to those in Havana. Edit.....this reply was for Nik 707 report
Hi everyone,
I am visiting Cuba end of this month and since this is my first time in Cuba, I was building up my lists for clubs and restaurants before I go. Below I listed what I could find in the forum and on TripAdvisor.
Clubs:
Best 5.
• Casa de la Musica Havana: Latin.
Ave. 20 No. 3308 esq. A 35, Miramar, Havana, Cuba.
• Salon Rojo. Capri.
Calle 21 entre and why O, Vedado. La Habana.
• La Maison.
Playa, Havana, Cuba.
• Club Rio (also known as Johnny's).
Calle 21 entre and why O Vedado La Habana.
• El Gato Tuerto.
Calle O, between Calles 17 and 19.
Vedado, Havana 30331, Cuba.
Other Options.
• La Cecilia.
• Don Cangrejo (Thursdays).
• Dos Gardenias.
• Sangri La (Tuesdays).
Cuban Restaurants:
• San Cristobal Paladar.
• Dona Eutimia.
• Paladar Los Mercaderes.
• El Rum Rum de la Habana.
Any input from your personal experiences would be greatly appreciated.
Just did a week in Havana, first time. Stayed in a great casa for $60 a night (private apartment to myself) in the old town. Not sure why people complain about the food, I thought it was great. Some street girls around the old town and some being carried around on bicycle taxis at night, but no quality. Tried Salon Rojo, Casa de la Musica, Dos Gardenias. All were very similar, women ranging from so-so to rough, didn't interest me. They were too old and too fat, most had kids but claimed not. Guess I'm spoiled by my young slim Asian girls, so the scene in Havana didn't get me going at all, plus I don't like having to wait until after midnight to start up, I prefer to be in bed by then! Havana is great to visit but forget the girl scene, in my opinion.
Just did a week in Havana, first time. Stayed in a great casa for $60 a night (private apartment to myself) in the old town. Not sure why people complain about the food, I thought it was great. Some street girls around the old town and some being carried around on bicycle taxis at night, but no quality. Tried Salon Rojo, Casa de la Musica, Dos Gardenias. All were very similar, women ranging from so-so to rough, didn't interest me. They were too old and too fat, most had kids but claimed not. Guess I'm spoiled by my young slim Asian girls, so the scene in Havana didn't get me going at all, plus I don't like having to wait until after midnight to start up, I prefer to be in bed by then! Havana is great to visit but forget the girl scene, in my opinion.I am surprised by your assessment of Casa de la Musica. This may be a stupid question, but you did go inside, right? I ask because I saw a large number of streetwalkers or semi-pros lurking for business outside. The action is much better inside at peak times, which is after 11 pm. And the side benefit is, the live music is excellent. It's been some time, but I seem to remember there being two branches of Casa de la Musica.
Salon Rojo was more of a nakedly (no pun intended) obvious high end punters bar. Casa de la Musica was more of a locals place. I thought that the girls were equally pretty at both, but with more choice at SR, versus a better overall atmosphere for hanging at at CDM.
I guess that it has declined over the last few years, or we have very different tastes.
I am surprised by your assessment of Casa de la Musica. This may be a stupid question, but you did go inside, right? I ask because I saw a large number of streetwalkers or semi-pros lurking for business outside. The action is much better inside at peak times, which is after 11 pm. And the side benefit is, the live music is excellent. It's been some time, but I seem to remember there being two branches of Casa de la Musica.
Salon Rojo was more of a nakedly (no pun intended) obvious high end punters bar. Casa de la Musica was more of a locals place. I thought that the girls were equally pretty at both, but with more choice at SR, versus a better overall atmosphere for hanging at at CDM.
I guess that it has declined over the last few years, or we have very different tastes.There is a CDM just outside the old town but it was in such a shitty looking area that I didn't go in. I went to the one in Miramar. I agree it is an OK place to see for the music, but I did not rate the women there or in any of the pick up clubs I saw. I admit though that I have a narrow range of tastes and others would disagree. Out of academic interest I asked a girl in SR how much she would want and she said CUC100. Said she would stay all night for that, but then again she also said she had no kids which also was not true! In all places the women who can speak English will come over to chat; in all cases the chat would end with her asking for CUC10 if you were not taking her. Also taxis are quite expensive if you are alone and not sharing. The taxi from the old town to Miramar and back will cost CUC30 at night, which is usually more than I spent in the club which is relatively cheap.
There is a CDM just outside the old town but it was in such a shitty looking area that I didn't go in. I went to the one in Miramar. I agree it is an OK place to see for the music, but I did not rate the women there or in any of the pick up clubs I saw. I admit though that I have a narrow range of tastes and others would disagree. Out of academic interest I asked a girl in SR how much she would want and she said CUC100. Said she would stay all night for that, but then again she also said she had no kids which also was not true! In all places the women who can speak English will come over to chat; in all cases the chat would end with her asking for CUC10 if you were not taking her. Also taxis are quite expensive if you are alone and not sharing. The taxi from the old town to Miramar and back will cost CUC30 at night, which is usually more than I spent in the club which is relatively cheap.Ahh yes, I am remembering now (I went four years ago). I went to the Miramar branch, because the function that I was attending was in that area, so my hotel was there anyway.
From what I remember, Cuban women just slightly darker than, white I consider, fair-skinned Mexicans. Between Mexican and Colombian. Similar bodacious figures like Colombian, but not borderline heavy (like I consider most Mexican girls). Very pretty, and great dancers. I too like them generally thin, but do like meat if its packed in the right places.
Maybe you went on the wrong night? If CDM has truly lost it, then that saddens me.
There is a CDM just outside the old town but it was in such a shitty looking area that I didn't go in. I went to the one in Miramar. I agree it is an OK place to see for the music, but I did not rate the women there or in any of the pick up clubs I saw. I admit though that I have a narrow range of tastes and others would disagree. Out of academic interest I asked a girl in SR how much she would want and she said CUC100. Said she would stay all night for that, but then again she also said she had no kids which also was not true! In all places the women who can speak English will come over to chat; in all cases the chat would end with her asking for CUC10 if you were not taking her. Also taxis are quite expensive if you are alone and not sharing. The taxi from the old town to Miramar and back will cost CUC30 at night, which is usually more than I spent in the club which is relatively cheap.Surprized you call the area of the casa de musica on galiano at neptuno a shitty area, sure it not miramar or NYC but give it a break this is Cuba. Sure a block either way off Galiano leaves a lot to be desired but on Galiano itself all the way to the Malecon and the other way to Chinatown and further are fine. I will be in CDM on Galiano 2 weeks from today, lots of times the only gringo and with all those flacitas to choose from.
Come on guys someone must someone be in havana, no other reports in this site in nearly a week. I am lonely for news of cubanas. I arrive July 23 and will post on the 25 or 26th. Surely someone can write before that date. Packing my second bag today for my chicas. Includes shampoo, conditioner, lipstick, deodorant, nailpolish, shavers, chica clothes, muchacho ninja clothes, boom box, baseballs, 2 soccer balls, one baseball bat, acetaminafina, 'tylenol' will load it to max of 50 lbs with added canned salmon to make up to max weight, a couple of years ago when going thru immigation I was asked if I had any gifts, I replied yes, and the guy asked what about a gift for me, I was quite surprised, it had been years since I had been asked and that was crossing overland into Guatemala. I passed him $10. Canuck buck, big smile and away I went.
It amazes me how the Cuban people will find a way through any situation. They never quit. My last trip I took my girlfriend and her sister some old electronics that appeared to be on its last legs. I took an old nano iPod and a portable DVD player that I hadn't used in years. Actually the DVD player wasn't working but for some reason I kept it in a drawer with my old electronics.
I also took a Panasonic lumina camera that had a line when recording. Well my girl would email me ten times a day telling me about her frustration when trying to get my old equipment working. She would always end the email with " I will find a way". Happy to say all of the equipment is now working better than when I purchased it.
The girl just won't quit anything. When I'm trying to move pass something she is still trying to find the solution. She is also laying tile in her house and attending the university. Damn! It makes my lazy ass feel bad some times.
BeersTerry
07-23-14, 02:32
El Gato Tuerto, I am not so sure this is a pickup joint, but then again, every Cuban joint can be a pickup joint.
Playa, are you talking about Playa, the area of Havana or the beach? It is summer, lots of girls at the beach.
Lots of better choices for restaurants than what you have. There are about 6 really good Italian restaurants around. Real Italian restaurants, not Cuban owned Italian restaurants.
You will find that Cuba has gone done hill a little as there are shortages as they are running out of credit and that big spending spree by the people on the streets with the money they stole from work / the government is now over leaving cash shortages for the government.
BeersTerry
07-23-14, 02:35
The Casa de la Musica on Galiano is hardcore puta territory for the most part. The one in Miramar is better IMO.
What is IMO all these silly abbreviations make no sense because the could mean anything.
The Casa de la Musica on Galiano is hardcore puta territory for the most part. The one in Miramar is better IMO.
Jelly Donut
07-24-14, 03:32
abbreviationsThere is a tool bar button (directly below the red bar) that says "Abbreviations". It's right of the one for the Photo Gallery.
Most abbreviations people use on this forum can be found there.
IMO is "In My Opinion" an abbreviation of IMHO, which is listed in the "Abbreviations".
Just did a week in Havana, first time. Stayed in a great casa for $60 a night (private apartment to myself) in the old town. Not sure why people complain about the food, I thought it was great. Some street girls around the old town and some being carried around on bicycle taxis at night, but no quality. Tried Salon Rojo, Casa de la Musica, Dos Gardenias. All were very similar, women ranging from so-so to rough, didn't interest me. They were too old and too fat, most had kids but claimed not. Guess I'm spoiled by my young slim Asian girls, so the scene in Havana didn't get me going at all, plus I don't like having to wait until after midnight to start up, I prefer to be in bed by then! Havana is great to visit but forget the girl scene, in my opinion.It always amazes me how tastes differ, because I couldn't wait to leave the curveless, robotic asian girls to get back to the latinas. Gross generalization of course, but overall to my tastes this is true. The filipinas are a little better than that, but not much. I found in my experiences in the Havana clubs (the high end ones anyway) that there were no fatties at all, and nothing over 30 years old. These girls are investing (either theirs or someone else's) money for entry in what amount to be a substantial sum for a Cuban with the clear expectation that they are going to leave with a customer. Girls who weren't confident in their looks and who couldn't back them up by pulling clients simply wouldn't go into these places (Casa de la Musica, Salon Rojo etc). I saw no fatties at all, and while not all girls were to my taste looking objectively I wouldn't have called any of them ugly.
I do agree that having to wait for midnight for the club to be happening is a pain, but there are so many opportunities to meet girls at any time of the day in Havana that this isn't a significant obstacle unless it's the air conditioning you're dying to get to.
It always amazes me how tastes differ, because I couldn't wait to leave the curveless, robotic asian girls to get back to the latinas. Gross generalization of course, but overall to my tastes this is true. The filipinas are a little better than that, but not much. I found in my experiences in the Havana clubs (the high end ones anyway) that there were no fatties at all, and nothing over 30 years old. These girls are investing (either theirs or someone else's) money for entry in what amount to be a substantial sum for a Cuban with the clear expectation that they are going to leave with a customer. Girls who weren't confident in their looks and who couldn't back them up by pulling clients simply wouldn't go into these places (Casa de la Musica, Salon Rojo etc). I saw no fatties at all, and while not all girls were to my taste looking objectively I wouldn't have called any of them ugly.
I do agree that having to wait for midnight for the club to be happening is a pain, but there are so many opportunities to meet girls at any time of the day in Havana that this isn't a significant obstacle unless it's the air conditioning you're dying to get to.I cannot imagine any girls being hotter, younger or more eager to please than Cuban girls. Considering the severe daily problems caused by the state, I find most girls are willing to do almost anything to please their "boyfriends" for anywhere between $50 to 100 for an entire evening. They do not watch the clock or rush you in any way. Of course, not all the girls are like this, especially the ones from the clubs. But I find my girls through local Cuban friends. These are girls who don't frequent nightclubs, are girls from good families just needing some extra income to support their families or just buy what we consider necessities. If you treat them well, they are much better than girlfriends / wives in every manner of speaking. I have great respect for such girls as they are not prostitutes at heart but victims of economic necessity. I have had mixed experiences at the clubs mentioned in the posts, as it depends on the night and the quality of the girls. The ones who are any good know they are better than the others and demand higher prices. I remember once a blond told me she was more expensive because she was from Holguin and therefore more beautiful (=expensive) than girls from other provinces. She was indeed good looking but them reflected a similar attitude in bed (a bit stand offish and not willing to do all that some others are happy to do). The ones at hotel bars are even worse as they demand $100 for an hour and are real clock watchers. I have stopped going to the clubs and have my regular girlfriends who I have tested for any diseases so I can enjoy a real GF experience. After a while, they drift off having found a local husband or boy friend, but then a new one takes their place and life goes on. Cuba is heaven (while it lasts)!
Just back from my second trip. First one was 6 months ago and I was staying in the Melia Cohiba each time. On the first trip I took a couple of girls that were walking on the Malecon.
First one was a bit older (mid 30's) but had her own place in Old Havana. Price was around 60 or 70 CUC and service was OK but not great.
Second one lived close to Cohiba with her family and was walking along the Malecon in the middle of the day when we stopped to chat. Remember, this was winter so walking in the middle of the day is not so bad. She was about 23 and had a young child at home. Tall, skinny and with lovely brown skin, she new a casa close by that charged me 20 and she charged 40 for a couple of hours of pleasant fun. She was most worried about being seen with me entering and leaving the casa so we had to be discreet.
This trip, I was busy working each day and it is too hot out so a walk along the Malecon in the evening after diiner and a stroll around old Havana was the go. Had many offers from good looking girls and also notice the police presence seemed to be greater than the previous trip. Ran into Katie who is a 23 YO Blonde tanned school teacher supplementing her day time income. Not great English (I have no Spanish) but she had a casa close by for 20 and started off wanting 50 but soon came down to 40. Due to jetlag and work the next day I initially turned her down the first 2 days but then took her on the third day. We walked 200 m to a large casa where she knocked and a 60 YO man answered the door. The rent changed hands and he pointed upstairs indicating we could have any room we wanted. They are all preprepared with a clean sheet on the bed and a condom on the side table. Katie opened the first door to be greeted by the sight of a couple going at it on the bed. We retreated to find another room which was clean, functional and the A/C worked.
Katie strips off and first she gives me a massage followed by me giving her a hand and then a foot massage which she seemed to appreciate. Then she is massaging my dick and on with the condom. Multiple positions and good sex had us both laying together exhausted for a nice cuddle. After an hour we slowly got dressed while trying to chat and then left.
The next night I found her again and talked her into spending several hours with me for the same price. I like the cuddles, massage, (attempts at) conversation so I got her to promise to stay longer after one shot. This time a 6 year old boy answers the door, takes one look at Katie who is wearing extremely short denim shorts and runs off to get someone else. Grandma comes to the door and takes the money and points to the rooms. Another fun time with lots of GFE is had.
When we leave, Grandma and Grandad (from the night before) are both sitting on the porch outside and give us both a nice smile as we leave.
A few quick observations from my trip:
I love the Cubana walk, its like a stallion horse and military with a tweak of sexiness. Its not a show-off walk about sexiness but a confident walk that's smooth, I love it.
Stayed at a new casa and the first two days girls wouldn't give me a second look, after the second day when they realized I was local and hanging out some gave me smiles and propositions that had previously ignored me. They probably wanted to make sure I wasn't a cop. Its funny walking around Old Habana my first night and seeing these girls sitting out after midnight that paid me no attention all of the sudden invite me into their homes after seeing me for a couple days LOL.
These girls are insatiable. My girl came to spend a couple days together and all we did was fuck for two days. If we weren't fucking she was playing with her pussy or grabbing my dick. I had to evict her after two days to finally get some rest. Even though I was getting more propositions as girls were getting familiar with seeing me, I knew I couldn't duplicate the two days of fucking I did with my girl so I remained solo.
WIFI in hotel Parque central is pretty good. Its 8 cuc for an hour but its not continuous. Nice place to hangout also with plenty of eye candy.
Make sure the cabbies drop you off at the right terminal when exiting Habana. Terminal 3 is International but two is also, some cabbies don't know this.
Bici-taxis get a lot of pussy late at night from girls hanging on the stoop, they were my competition as I hunted late night.
Cubans like to hear good love making at night. As me and my girl were fucking late at night with her heavy moans I would hear the televisions in the apartments next door go off so they could hear the good fucking. No banging on the wall or ceilings here. It felt good to be fucking good with an audience.
Its hot in July and August so plan on being inside air-conditioned during the days.
Sorry Bart I couldn't hang out with you but maybe next time.
I know this must be a newbie question. But please bear with me. I have gone through about 100 pages of previous postings. But I get the mixed message.
First question. What is the quality of the chicas near Tropicoco. I know tastes differ, but I read some postings that complain the poor quality of chicas.
Second question. If I am correct, the ST price for a chica is 30-40 CUC. What is the LT price?
Third question. Can I find some chicas near Tropicoco speaking decent English? I know most of of them probably cannot speak more than a few words of English. But is there a possibility?
Many Thanks.
As I read ST and LT in your question, it reminds me BKK.
In Cuba for me it is always LT and always paid 20 or 30 or 40, unless the chica is a dream girl, even in that case 50, never ever more than that.
There 5 chica sources I can think of near Tropicoco.
- Chicas in the lobby are a hit and miss (more of a miss than hit). Few days you see them hang around, few days the whole lobby is free of them. These are chicas who are staying at Tropicoco on their own, and plying the trade. Quality medium to lower. Cost varies, early evening they quote more and as the time goes by the cost comes down.
- Chicas brought by security. Again this is also a hit and a miss. It can be a hit, if you bribe the security ahead of time, and let him know what you are looking for, so that he can arrange it. Keep in mind the security during morning would not be there during night time, so approach them around late evening. Quality medium to lower. Cost is 20 to security and chica should be 30-40.
- Chicas in the playa across the street. Most of the time I could find one or two chicas willing to come with me, in my case most are negras. I did score a blanca who approched me on her own asking me fire for cigarette. It was just one off incident. Unlike the previous two options, here you have to make your own hunt plus find a place to take them. Chica cost + taxi + casa + return taxi could be 30+5+20+5 cuc. Not worth it for me as the quality is so so.
- Hang around Tropicoco traffic circle, walk up the hill prospecting on the way, hang around the Via Blanca bus stop. Keep in mind there are so many normal chicas walk up and down with family and friends. I was very lucky once to find a just turned 18 who was walking with her mother and little brother. Again this is hard work and the cost is same as above.
Now we come to the easier part.
- Take 3 cuc taxi to Taramar disco / bar. It is less than 5 minute ride from Tropicoco. Or take the 5 cuc taxi ride to Guanabo Club / Guanimar, may be a 10-15 minute ride. I prefer to go after 10 pm, and there is a ton of chicas, in all color all shapes and all rates. They all know a taxi driver, and all taxi drivers know a casa. 30-40 for the chica, 5-10 for the taxi and 20 forthe casa. If you are new, I recommend that you take this option on the first day. Develop a rapport with the chica / driver. They can guide you the following days. Once you have drained yourself with their offerings, then try the other ones. Nothing to loose.
You can also reach out to some senior bros here thru private message, they are all very helpful.
Have fun.
I know this must be a newbie question. But please bear with me. I have gone through about 100 pages of previous postings. But I get the mixed message
First question. What is the quality of the chicas near Tropicoco. I know tastes differ, but I read some postings that complain the poor quality of chicas.
Second question. If I am correct, the ST price for a chica is 30-40 CUC. What is the LT price?
Third question. Can I find some chicas near Tropicoco speaking decent English? I know most of of them probably cannot speak more than a few words of English. But is there a possibility?
Many Thanks.
I typed a lot in the earlier message, not sure whether I answered your questions.
First question. What is the quality of the chicas near Tropicoco. I know tastes differ, but I read some postings that complain the poor quality of chicas.
Medium to poor.
Second question. If I am correct, the ST price for a chica is 30-40 CUC. What is the LT price?
You negotiate. Chicas are independent, no set prices like in Asia.
Third question. Can I find some chicas near Tropicoco speaking decent English? I know most of of them probably cannot speak more than a few words of English. But is there a possibility?
Chances are very small.
This is great for a newbie like me. Many thanks.
As I read ST and LT in your question, it reminds me BKK.
In Cuba for me it is always LT and always paid 20 or 30 or 40, unless the chica is a dream girl, even in that case 50, never ever more than that.
There 5 chica sources I can think of near Tropicoco.
- Chicas in the lobby are a hit and miss (more of a miss than hit). Few days you see them hang around, few days the whole lobby is free of them. These are chicas who are staying at Tropicoco on their own, and plying the trade. Quality medium to lower. Cost varies, early evening they quote more and as the time goes by the cost comes down.
- Chicas brought by security. Again this is also a hit and a miss. It can be a hit, if you bribe the security ahead of time, and let him know what you are looking for, so that he can arrange it. Keep in mind the security during morning would not be there during night time, so approach them around late evening. Quality medium to lower. Cost is 20 to security and chica should be 30-40.
- Chicas in the playa across the street. Most of the time I could find one or two chicas willing to come with me, in my case most are negras. I did score a blanca who approched me on her own asking me fire for cigarette. It was just one off incident. Unlike the previous two options, here you have to make your own hunt plus find a place to take them. Chica cost + taxi + casa + return taxi could be 30+5+20+5 cuc. Not worth it for me as the quality is so so.
- Hang around Tropicoco traffic circle, walk up the hill prospecting on the way, hang around the Via Blanca bus stop. Keep in mind there are so many normal chicas walk up and down with family and friends. I was very lucky once to find a just turned 18 who was walking with her mother and little brother. Again this is hard work and the cost is same as above.
Now we come to the easier part.
- Take 3 cuc taxi to Taramar disco / bar. It is less than 5 minute ride from Tropicoco. Or take the 5 cuc taxi ride to Guanabo Club / Guanimar, may be a 10-15 minute ride. I prefer to go after 10 pm, and there is a ton of chicas, in all color all shapes and all rates. They all know a taxi driver, and all taxi drivers know a casa. 30-40 for the chica, 5-10 for the taxi and 20 forthe casa. If you are new, I recommend that you take this option on the first day. Develop a rapport with the chica / driver. They can guide you the following days. Once you have drained yourself with their offerings, then try the other ones. Nothing to loose.
You can also reach out to some senior bros here thru private message, they are all very helpful.
Have fun.
Just one clarification. Taramar can be a hit or miss too. Last time it was closed too.
This is great for a newbie like me. Many thanks.
Can I bring a girl from Guanabo Club / Guanimar back to the Hotel Tropicoco? Of course, I have to pay the 20 CUC bribe to the security.
Can chica spend the night at the hotel? Is there a logistic problem for this? I am familiar with the bar scene at Bangkok and Sosua? Is there any difference? I would imagine I do not need to pay salida or barfine to take a chica out of the club.
I am just not comfortable to sleep at the Casa that driver / chica prefers. Not want to be mugged.
Just one clarification. Taramar can be a hit or miss too. Last time it was closed too.
Can I bring a girl from Guanabo Club / Guanimar back to the Hotel Tropicoco? Of course, I have to pay the 20 CUC bribe to the security.
I do not think it is going to work. The chica may not want to come to Tropicoco, the security guy may not allow as he does not know the chica. Also you must have heard that the security will always knock on the door by early morning and ask the chica to leave. I have never done taking chica to Tropicoco and do not know anyone else who has done this. So I will let others to answer.
Can chica spend the night at the hotel? Is there a logistic problem for this? I am familiar with the bar scene at Bangkok and Sosua? Is there any difference? I would imagine I do not need to pay salida or barfine to take a chica out of the club.
Big difference, like day and night.
-Girls do not work for the bar, so no bar fine in Cuba, infact no one there even heard this word. No such thing called lady drink.
-There is no mamasan, the bar servers might do 50% of mamsan work if you are lucky, but you do not need them to get chicas.
- It is a police state, Chica's are scared of the cop. If your chica is not scared of them, do not think you are lucky to have got a brave one, as she is a hardcore puta who is paying regular bribes to cops or her protector pays bribes to cops.
I am just not comfortable to sleep at the Casa that driver / chica prefers. Not want to be mugged.
Comfort is a personal thing. I never heard of any one being mugged. The small streets, sometimes poorly paved roads thru some fields and the macho drivers can scare someone who is not a bit adventurous. But if you are my brother, I will tell you to go and stay in a casa without any worries in Cuba.
Thanks. I now understand. It is about comfort level. Chicas must feel comfortable to go to Tropicoco, and the security guy at Tropicoco must feel comfortable to allow the chicas in.
Therefore, Tropicoco is not really a desirable option as a "base" becauseI have to pay for the casa any way all the time. I should use a nice casa with air conditioning and hot shower.
Many thanks.
Can I bring a girl from Guanabo Club / Guanimar back to the Hotel Tropicoco? Of course, I have to pay the 20 CUC bribe to the security.
I do not think it is going to work. The chica may not want to come to Tropicoco, the security guy may not allow as he does not know the chica. Also you must have heard that the security will always knock on the door by early morning and ask the chica to leave. I have never done taking chica to Tropicoco and do not know anyone else who has done this. So I will let others to answer.
Can chica spend the night at the hotel? Is there a logistic problem for this? I am familiar with the bar scene at Bangkok and Sosua? Is there any difference? I would imagine I do not need to pay salida or barfine to take a chica out of the club.
Big difference, like day and night.
-Girls do not work for the bar, so no bar fine in Cuba, infact no one there even heard this word. No such thing called lady drink.
-There is no mamasan, the bar servers might do 50% of mamsan work if you are lucky, but you do not need them to get chicas.
- It is a police state, Chica's are scared of the cop. If your chica is not scared of them, do not think you are lucky to have got a brave one, as she is a hardcore puta who is paying regular bribes to cops or her protector pays bribes to cops.
I am just not comfortable to sleep at the Casa that driver / chica prefers. Not want to be mugged.
Comfort is a personal thing. I never heard of any one being mugged. The small streets, sometimes poorly paved roads thru some fields and the macho drivers can scare someone who is not a bit adventurous. But if you are my brother, I will tell you to go and stay in a casa without any worries in Cuba.
Stay in Tropicoco the first night, so you will land peacefully knowing where to sleep, plus you a have hotel name to write on the immigration form (not that they check, you can always wrote any other hotel name too).
Goto Guanabo discos and pick your chica and then ask her to recommend a taxi and casa, tell them you need the casa not for few hours, but for 24 hours (important). The casas south of Via Blanca are cheap, you can get them for 20-25 cuc a day. The casas on walking distance to Guanabo beach and to discos are expensive. But remember if you take the cheaper casas you have to always pay a taxi guy 5 cuc for a ride to Guanabo. Assuming you goto playa once a day (10 cuc return) and then to the disco (10 cuc return), it is 20 cuc a day for taxies. So even if the casa is going to cost you 50 cuc right on the beach, and walking distance to the beach then it is worth it as compared to a casa. The taxi drivers would always show you a casa further away to get more business. Stay firm and say you need a casa within walking distance to discos, which in turn means walking distance to beach.
Once you found the casa, use it and if you are feeling good, you can goto Tropicoco, check out and go back to your own casa.
Thanks. I now understand. It is about comfort level. Chicas must feel comfortable to go to Tropicoco, and the security guy at Tropicoco must feel comfortable to allow the chicas in.
Therefore, Tropicoco is not really a desirable option as a "base" becauseI have to pay for the casa any way all the time. I should use a nice casa with air conditioning and hot shower.
Many thanks.
Many thanks. Last question. If I hang out discos near University of Havana, how is my chance to find some chicas speaking some English. I speaks no Spanish at all.
Taboc! You are such a help. Really appreciate it.
Stay in Tropicoco the first night, so you will land peacefully knowing where to sleep, plus you a have hotel name to write on the immigration form (not that they check, you can always wrote any other hotel name too).
Goto Guanabo discos and pick your chica and then ask her to recommend a taxi and casa, tell them you need the casa not for few hours, but for 24 hours (important). The casas south of Via Blanca are cheap, you can get them for 20-25 cuc a day. The casas on walking distance to Guanabo beach and to discos are expensive. But remember if you take the cheaper casas you have to always pay a taxi guy 5 cuc for a ride to Guanabo. Assuming you goto playa once a day (10 cuc return) and then to the disco (10 cuc return), it is 20 cuc a day for taxies. So even if the casa is going to cost you 50 cuc right on the beach, and walking distance to the beach then it is worth it as compared to a casa. The taxi drivers would always show you a casa further away to get more business. Stay firm and say you need a casa within walking distance to discos, which in turn means walking distance to beach.
Once you found the casa, use it and if you are feeling good, you can goto Tropicoco, check out and go back to your own casa.
BeersTerry
08-22-14, 03:12
Spanish ain't spoken in any disco, near the university or not. You just have to get lucky.
I really don't understand the pricing of Guanabo casas. Then again, it is August and the demand is high from both Europeans and locals.
No problem, we are all here to help. I am between my contract works and have time to kill so read forums of places I have not visited yet for time pass, and hence come here often these days.
First thing, goto youtube and watch some Spanish lessons. Learn atleast to say Hello, I do not know spanish, are you ok, I like you, numbers, food etc. Make some effort before going.
If you are thinking about discos where university students frequent like in developed world, there is no such thing in Havana, some one else can correct me on this. There are times students will get together in the campus or in small streets right next to them, someone will bring big speakers and blare music and students will dance with cheap rum. I do not know when it happens.
In short, looking for 'real' students means a bit of work or good connections (real is the keyword). Like BeersTerry said there is always a luck factor, and if you believe in that then try it and don't forget to share it with bros here.
Many thanks. Last question. If I hang out discos near University of Havana, how is my chance to find some chicas speaking some English. I speaks no Spanish at all.
Taboc! You are such a help. Really appreciate it.
Guard up.
Taboc and Vedadofun make excellent points. I posted a few months ago about where I met the casa owners niece and she became a regular. I arrived in Cuba last week and decided to stay at a new casa in a new area because I like to experience new things and keep the old things for later. Plus I don't like being predictable. The old casa owner asked for a blood pressure monitor so I purchased one in the States to take to him. Well I went to the older casa and the owner wasn't there but his wife was and it wasn't his wife from the last trip. I asked about the niece but the new wife wasn't helpful at all so I left.
I happened to see a girl from my first trip and we hit the new casa and had sex. I gave her 30 cuc and said come back later and we will hangout and she could spend the night and I would have more money for her. She completely fucked that up by asking for money to buy clothes to wear that evening. She gave me an ultimatum to either give her clothes money or she wasn't coming back. Needless to say I never called or saw her for the rest of my trip. I went to the other casa hoping to locate the niece but the wife wasn't helping me. As I left the first wife walked up and gave me a hug. She went in the casa and made three phone calls and the niece was on the way. The two wives didn't like each other and argued over the 15 cuc I left for the nieces private car. I would later find out from the niece the she caught the bus for 1 cuc.
When I went to meet the niece she was at a restaurant with the first wife and some new dude. We had drinks and they grabbed a menu and lights went off in my head. My 40 cuc drinking bill was about to become 80 cuc if I don't put the brakes on, which I did. I paid the 40 cuc drinking bill but I was pissed that the niece was willing to let them milk me dry. At the casa I explained to the niece that I have money for her not her friends. We spent the next two days having sex and I gave her 70 cuc and sent her home. I really wanted to give her more but I was still pissed.
Later that night I'm sitting alone at an outdoor bar drinking mojitoes when the first wife and the guy walk up. They sit and talk but I never offer them anything. They would run inside to the bar every few minutes. I'm ready to pay 9 cuc for my three mojitoes when the waiter hands me a bill for 21 cuc. I said WTF. I explained to him I had 3 mojitoes and not the four Cuba libres added to the bill. He calls the wife over and she agrees to pay. I smiled a fake smile hugged the wife and left. I understand times are hard in Cuba but they go over board with some of the bullshit.
Guard up.
Taboc and Vedadofun make excellent points. I posted a few months ago about where I met the casa owners niece and she became a regular. I arrived in Cuba last week and decided to stay at a new casa in a new area because I like to experience new things and keep the old things for later. Plus I don't like being predictable. The old casa owner asked for a blood pressure monitor so I purchased one in the States to take to him. Well I went to the older casa and the owner wasn't there but his wife was and it wasn't his wife from the last trip. I asked about the niece but the new wife wasn't helpful at all so I left.
I happened to see a girl from my first trip and we hit the new casa and had sex. I gave her 30 cuc and said come back later and we will hangout and she could spend the night and I would have more money for her. She completely fucked that up by asking for money to buy clothes to wear that evening. She gave me an ultimatum to either give her clothes money or she wasn't coming back. Needless to say I never called or saw her for the rest of my trip. I went to the other casa hoping to locate the niece but the wife wasn't helping me. As I left the first wife walked up and gave me a hug. She went in the casa and made three phone calls and the niece was on the way. The two wives didn't like each other and argued over the 15 cuc I left for the nieces private car. I would later find out from the niece the she caught the bus for 1 cuc.
When I went to meet the niece she was at a restaurant with the first wife and some new dude. We had drinks and they grabbed a menu and lights went off in my head. My 40 cuc drinking bill was about to become 80 cuc if I don't put the brakes on, which I did. I paid the 40 cuc drinking bill but I was pissed that the niece was willing to let them milk me dry. At the casa I explained to the niece that I have money for her not her friends. We spent the next two days having sex and I gave her 70 cuc and sent her home. I really wanted to give her more but I was still pissed.
Later that night I'm sitting alone at an outdoor bar drinking mojitoes when the first wife and the guy walk up. They sit and talk but I never offer them anything. They would run inside to the bar every few minutes. I'm ready to pay 9 cuc for my three mojitoes when the waiter hands me a bill for 21 cuc. I said WTF. I explained to him I had 3 mojitoes and not the four Cuba libres added to the bill. He calls the wife over and she agrees to pay. I smiled a fake smile hugged the wife and left. I understand times are hard in Cuba but they go over board with some of the bullshit.I applaud what you did. They try to pull this shit, because it works a good percentage of the time. Most guys, unlike you, don't have the balls or the language ability to fight it. Or they just don't feel like bothering for 10 or 30 bucks. It's not just about saving money. It's about setting a precedent for the next time.
I applaud what you did. They try to pull this shit, because it works a good percentage of the time. Most guys, unlike you, don't have the balls or the language ability to fight it. Or they just don't feel like bothering for 10 or 30 bucks. It's not just about saving money. It's about setting a precedent for the next time.I think so many girls are caught in the "Gringo hustle" that they really miss out on a profitable meeting. One thing that I think saves our ass is that the police don't play and the casa owner has their info. One girl my first trip waited till we got to the casa and demanded the money up front (never do that), then she said a covered blow job also. I said pack your shit and headed for the door and she went quietly. In the DR she would have grabbed something and made a scene. The last thing these girls want is the police involved, so that protects us.
But I think it was you Combo who talked about protecting the casa owner, and I agree. My first trip I was running chicas in and banging the girls on the block. This is a negative if you have a casa you really like. Cubans want their houses respected and don't really appreciate neighborhood skanks being in their home. The skanks will usually invite you into their home once they know you but I still keep that playground a few blocks from where I'm staying. I had drama when a neighborhood skank was upset with another girl I was banging for not telling her I was there.
Another thing guys is don't let the girls use the phones in the casa. They will get comfortable and spend hours calling relatives and friends with no shame. I tell them we can't use the phone. Also they will call someone and retrieve your casa number and start bothering you and the casa owner. The phone is off limits. Also guys if a girl refuses to walk the streets with you its because the police know her reputation.
Cuba takes many trips to figure out but with every trip you figure out the lay of the land. My current girl lives in Santiago de las vegas and keeps begging me to come meet her family, but I never meet family. But I want to go scout the place so I would know how to catch the Bus around and see what's really happening in these places. If I could find a bar and post up and people watch that would be cool. After five trips I'm ready to leave Habana and try somewhere cool that is only a few hours away. Anyone ever been there?
Mr. Gogo, as you know there is no bus ride in Havana that is 1 cuc, it is some ridiculously low amount, I think it is 5 pesos.
Taxi scam is another one most new mongers should be aware of. First the scam by taxi drivers who guide to a casa which is cheaper, but the ride back and forth is 3 times expensive. Second, by the chicas. It is fair to assume that most of them do not have a car in their family and all their travels are in local buses. There is no stigma as that is how over 90% of the cubans travel around. So, when we approach a chica and ask her to come over the next day, it is not a bad idea to tell her to take the bus, worst case, ask her to take taxi collectivo and not a private taxi.
The bottom line is this. Check any of the five applies to your situation.
- chica loves you for whatever reason.
- she believes that you will parachute her out.
- she believes that you will send her money every month.
- she believes that you are a regular, and will be coming over many times over the year.
- you have given her hope and made her believe that you will help her repair / build home.
If any one of them apply then you do not have to be that cautious with her.
If not even one of them apply, then expect to be scammed, screwed and cheated one way or other. This is just the rule of the game. Once you accept it then the trip is fun, you see the scam unfold in front of your eyes, you either stop it or let it happen as you wish.
Scam that I knew was happening but let it go.
1. One of the chicas put a nice face and said she wanted to work hard. She showed me her skills of pedicure / manicure. The only problem she had was no cuc to buy the Chinese made hair style device. I paid her 60 cuc for that, after a day or two she promptly gave it back to the negra seller and got the money back. She told me that the device is no good, and she is looking for a good one, offcourse she never found a good one.
2. This kid is studying in Univ of Havana, and an old laptop that will be thrown away here will be of great help to further career. Atleast that is what I heard. I did not say a word, my mate felt bad and gave an old laptop. It was promptly sold once he left. When asked, the guy said since it is old, he had given it for repairing.
3. Once an old lady said she can make 10 shirts for 40 cuc. There is no doubt in her skills as she altered one of my suits to perfection. Except that she only made 5 shirts, which are made from totally different material than what she showed and I could never be able to wear them. Also the material is in short supply. So I left it as she said she will give it next time. Too bad next time she was not working as the policia caught her working this way (4. Casa owner said the community watcher is not happy with chicas coming in and out of the casa, and so it would be nice to present a bottle that I have brought over from dutyfree.
5. One guy said he could find the best normal chica for me. Lets go around looking for one. After 2 hrs running around and paying 20 cuc to the driver, the guide did his errands, met his distant relatives and gave ride to his ex novia to where she wanted to go. I got nothing. Oh well he bought me coconut water, sugar cane juice and kept me entertained all the way.
So, in my next trip I expect to be scammed too, also expect to score a new cubana who will make that scam hassle nothing. That is Cuba for me.
Guard up.
Taboc and Vedadofun make excellent points. I posted a few months ago about where I met the casa owners niece and she became a regular. I arrived in Cuba last week and decided to stay at a new casa in a new area because I like to experience new things and keep the old things for later. Plus I don't like being predictable. The old casa owner asked for a blood pressure monitor so I purchased one in the States to take to him. Well I went to the older casa and the owner wasn't there but his wife was and it wasn't his wife from the last trip. I asked about the niece but the new wife wasn't helpful at all so I left.
I happened to see a girl from my first trip and we hit the new casa and had sex. I gave her 30 cuc and said come back later and we will hangout and she could spend the night and I would have more money for her. She completely fucked that up by asking for money to buy clothes to wear that evening. She gave me an ultimatum to either give her clothes money or she wasn't coming back. Needless to say I never called or saw her for the rest of my trip. I went to the other casa hoping to locate the niece but the wife wasn't helping me. As I left the first wife walked up and gave me a hug. She went in the casa and made three phone calls and the niece was on the way. The two wives didn't like each other and argued over the 15 cuc I left for the nieces private car. I would later find out from the niece the she caught the bus for 1 cuc.
When I went to meet the niece she was at a restaurant with the first wife and some new dude. We had drinks and they grabbed a menu and lights went off in my head. My 40 cuc drinking bill was about to become 80 cuc if I don't put the brakes on, which I did. I paid the 40 cuc drinking bill but I was pissed that the niece was willing to let them milk me dry. At the casa I explained to the niece that I have money for her not her friends. We spent the next two days having sex and I gave her 70 cuc and sent her home. I really wanted to give her more but I was still pissed.
Later that night I'm sitting alone at an outdoor bar drinking mojitoes when the first wife and the guy walk up. They sit and talk but I never offer them anything. They would run inside to the bar every few minutes. I'm ready to pay 9 cuc for my three mojitoes when the waiter hands me a bill for 21 cuc. I said WTF. I explained to him I had 3 mojitoes and not the four Cuba libres added to the bill. He calls the wife over and she agrees to pay. I smiled a fake smile hugged the wife and left. I understand times are hard in Cuba but they go over board with some of the bullshit.
You are correct Taboc. She said it was 1 peso and she caught three buses from Santiago de Las Vegas. Great info. The scams are part of the landscape and are easier to spot with time and experience. I just wrote a report below about respecting the casa owners below.
Which area can you recommend for a first time visitor.I say Vedado, good clubs around and You can walk to Old Havana. And safe.
Kalifornication
08-27-14, 00:37
Oh my god. That was some funny but true shit! You just made my day. What is even funnier is when the Cubans are pulling their scam shit and you call them out on it. When you yell them to stop treating you like Yuma. And then, . Watch them try to explain how they are not scamming or treating you like Yuma.
Mr. Gogo, as you know there is no bus ride in Havana that is 1 cuc, it is some ridiculously low amount, I think it is 5 pesos.
Taxi scam is another one most new mongers should be aware of. First the scam by taxi drivers who guide to a casa which is cheaper, but the ride back and forth is 3 times expensive. Second, by the chicas. It is fair to assume that most of them do not have a car in their family and all their travels are in local buses. There is no stigma as that is how over 90% of the cubans travel around. So, when we approach a chica and ask her to come over the next day, it is not a bad idea to tell her to take the bus, worst case, ask her to take taxi collectivo and not a private taxi.
The bottom line is this. Check any of the five applies to your situation.
- chica loves you for whatever reason.
- she believes that you will parachute her out.
- she believes that you will send her money every month.
- she believes that you are a regular, and will be coming over many times over the year.
- you have given her hope and made her believe that you will help her repair / build home.
If any one of them apply then you do not have to be that cautious with her.
If not even one of them apply, then expect to be scammed, screwed and cheated one way or other. This is just the rule of the game. Once you accept it then the trip is fun, you see the scam unfold in front of your eyes, you either stop it or let it happen as you wish.
Scam that I knew was happening but let it go.
1. One of the chicas put a nice face and said she wanted to work hard. She showed me her skills of pedicure / manicure. The only problem she had was no cuc to buy the Chinese made hair style device. I paid her 60 cuc for that, after a day or two she promptly gave it back to the negra seller and got the money back. She told me that the device is no good, and she is looking for a good one, offcourse she never found a good one.
2. This kid is studying in Univ of Havana, and an old laptop that will be thrown away here will be of great help to further career. Atleast that is what I heard. I did not say a word, my mate felt bad and gave an old laptop. It was promptly sold once he left. When asked, the guy said since it is old, he had given it for repairing.
3. Once an old lady said she can make 10 shirts for 40 cuc. There is no doubt in her skills as she altered one of my suits to perfection. Except that she only made 5 shirts, which are made from totally different material than what she showed and I could never be able to wear them. Also the material is in short supply. So I left it as she said she will give it next time. Too bad next time she was not working as the policia caught her working this way (4. Casa owner said the community watcher is not happy with chicas coming in and out of the casa, and so it would be nice to present a bottle that I have brought over from dutyfree.
5. One guy said he could find the best normal chica for me. Lets go around looking for one. After 2 hrs running around and paying 20 cuc to the driver, the guide did his errands, met his distant relatives and gave ride to his ex novia to where she wanted to go. I got nothing. Oh well he bought me coconut water, sugar cane juice and kept me entertained all the way.
So, in my next trip I expect to be scammed too, also expect to score a new cubana who will make that scam hassle nothing. That is Cuba for me.
I know this must be a newbie question. But please bear with me. I have gone through about 100 pages of previous postings. But I get the mixed message.
First question. What is the quality of the chicas near Tropicoco. I know tastes differ, but I read some postings that complain the poor quality of chicas.
Second question. If I am correct, the ST price for a chica is 30-40 CUC. What is the LT price?
Third question. Can I find some chicas near Tropicoco speaking decent English? I know most of of them probably cannot speak more than a few words of English. But is there a possibility?
Many Thanks.There's a skinny blonde named Geidy (Heidi) that you can find at Cabaret Guanimar in Guanabo on most nights, she speaks very good English but is a shark! Negotiate upfront, she will ask for $50 but will accept less, do not pay her more and do not pay for her return taxi.
My friend fucked her a few times and said she was an amazing lay. But she is a conniving shark and I personally can't stand her, to the point where I cussed her out for trying to rip my friend off.
Quality of chicas in that area depends on the time of year. I was just there last week and the talent on the beach was phenomenal! August is the best time to go to Cuba as they are all on vacation and you have much more to choose from.
There's a skinny blonde named Geidy (Heidi) that you can find at Cabaret Guanimar in Guanabo on most nights, she speaks very good English but is a shark! Negotiate upfront, she will ask for $50 but will accept less, do not pay her more and do not pay for her return taxi.
My friend fucked her a few times and said she was an amazing lay. But she is a conniving shark and I personally can't stand her, to the point where I cussed her out for trying to rip my friend off.
Quality of chicas in that area depends on the time of year. I was just there last week and the talent on the beach was phenomenal! August is the best time to go to Cuba as they are all on vacation and you have much more to choose from.Just a quick question, where did you stay while their, any and all info would be great, thanks, trying to go in the next couple of weeks, weather permitting!!
Just a quick question, where did you stay while their, any and all info would be great, thanks, trying to go in the next couple of weeks, weather permitting!!I reserved Tropicoco for the first day until I found a casa. This is important for 2 reasons:
1. It looks good to the immigration when you land.
2. Even if you book and pay for a casa in advance don't be surprised if you find some stranger sleeping in your room when you arrive.
Reserving a hotel for your 1st day also gives you a full day to go scout out some casas in person because the photos you see on the internet are often 10 times nicer than the place actually is. I'm a hands on kinda person, therefore I will never pay for something sight unseen.
So to answer your question, I found the most pimped out casa in the whole Guanabo / Boca Ciega area. It's owned by a Cuban American and as such, it looks like a home you would find in a Miami suburb. It has a large in-ground Pool and 7 bedrooms. Unfortunately they do not rent out individual rooms, the owner is loaded and doesn't need the money, so you will have to rent out the entire house. Which was fine with me and my friends cause the house is fantastic and we had total privacy.
So to answer your question, I found the most pimped out casa in the whole Guanabo / Boca Ciega area. It's owned by a Cuban American and as such, it looks like a home you would find in a Miami suburb. It has a large in-ground Pool and 7 bedrooms. Unfortunately they do not rent out individual rooms, the owner is loaded and doesn't need the money, so you will have to rent out the entire house. Which was fine with me and my friends cause the house is fantastic and we had total privacy.Can you give some more details on the Casa in Guanabo? Thanks.
How did you book the Tropicoco if you will never pay for something sight unseen.
I reserved Tropicoco for the first day until I found a casa. This is important for 2 reasons:
1. It looks good to the immigration when you land.
2. Even if you book and pay for a casa in advance don't be surprised if you find some stranger sleeping in your room when you arrive.
Reserving a hotel for your 1st day also gives you a full day to go scout out some casas in person because the photos you see on the internet are often 10 times nicer than the place actually is. I'm a hands on kinda person, therefore I will never pay for something sight unseen.
So to answer your question, I found the most pimped out casa in the whole Guanabo / Boca Ciega area. It's owned by a Cuban American and as such, it looks like a home you would find in a Miami suburb. It has a large in-ground Pool and 7 bedrooms. Unfortunately they do not rent out individual rooms, the owner is loaded and doesn't need the money, so you will have to rent out the entire house. Which was fine with me and my friends cause the house is fantastic and we had total privacy.
It is great info. Do you have a pic of Heidi?
There's a skinny blonde named Geidy (Heidi) that you can find at Cabaret Guanimar in Guanabo on most nights, she speaks very good English but is a shark! Negotiate upfront, she will ask for $50 but will accept less, do not pay her more and do not pay for her return taxi.
My friend fucked her a few times and said she was an amazing lay. But she is a conniving shark and I personally can't stand her, to the point where I cussed her out for trying to rip my friend off.
Quality of chicas in that area depends on the time of year. I was just there last week and the talent on the beach was phenomenal! August is the best time to go to Cuba as they are all on vacation and you have much more to choose from.
How did you book the Tropicoco if you will never pay for something sight unseen.Not my first "Rodeo" dude. I've been to that area many times before and have stayed at Tropicoco numerous times.
It is great info. Do you have a pic of Heidi?Sorry dude, no pics. I never take pics of chicks I'm not banging. LOL.
Anyway, she'll be easy to find. Super skinny, blonde, tattoo on her finger, soft spoken (but still a royal count), speaks very good English (which is extremely rare over there). If your having problems finding her just ask one of the security.
Diafreak2908
09-05-14, 09:02
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FrankieBallSac
09-06-14, 08:46
My friend is Cuban, he visits anually and stays with family. He tells me stories of hot, horny, pretty young chicks, who love American eye candy. So I was sort of interested I love big fake breasts like in Colombia, but whatever I'll give Cuba a try.
But here is the catch, he says I can stay with him and his aunt and help her pay electricity bills and maybe food costs and small things. I said how about I get a hotel, he said it costs money to bring a girl to a hotel and most security guards will not allow it even if you bribe them. So I said why not just rent a house or a beach house for two weeks (my planned stay). He says its too dangerous the girls can rob you or call her friends to steal things from inside etc.
Is renting a house for 2 weeks really that difficult in Havana? Is it even possible to find nice beach houses?
Read prior posts. Also you should pay membership fees.
My friend is Cuban, he visits anually and stays with family. He tells me stories of hot, horny, pretty young chicks, who love American eye candy. So I was sort of interested I love big fake breasts like in Colombia, but whatever I'll give Cuba a try.
But here is the catch, he says I can stay with him and his aunt and help her pay electricity bills and maybe food costs and small things. I said how about I get a hotel, he said it costs money to bring a girl to a hotel and most security guards will not allow it even if you bribe them. So I said why not just rent a house or a beach house for two weeks (my planned stay). He says its too dangerous the girls can rob you or call her friends to steal things from inside etc.
Is renting a house for 2 weeks really that difficult in Havana? Is it even possible to find nice beach houses?.
BrasilSoccer0
09-06-14, 17:31
You should stay at your friend's aunt house! Especially if it's your 1st time. That will make introductions faster and safer from possible blackmail by corrupt jineteras, chulos and policia who are always on the lookout and "love American eye candy" too!
But why would you come to Cuba if you "love big fake breasts like in Colombia" Cubanas are generally more slender and are not known for big breasts.
Not hard to rent if you are familiar with the area and know locals!! Nowadays you can go online for casas!! But make sure you have 2-3 reserved. Cubans need money now not later!
Hence my advice to you: accept your friend's offer and then see once there if you still want to rent solo. At least you'll have local help. In Cuba they have real people to people networks for EVERYTHING you need!
Unless you have a reason to rent solo, you should stay with a Cuban family as long as both accept terms!
My friend is Cuban, he visits anually and stays with family. He tells me stories of hot, horny, pretty young chicks, who love American eye candy. So I was sort of interested I love big fake breasts like in Colombia, but whatever I'll give Cuba a try.
But here is the catch, he says I can stay with him and his aunt and help her pay electricity bills and maybe food costs and small things. I said how about I get a hotel, he said it costs money to bring a girl to a hotel and most security guards will not allow it even if you bribe them. So I said why not just rent a house or a beach house for two weeks (my planned stay). He says its too dangerous the girls can rob you or call her friends to steal things from inside etc.
Is renting a house for 2 weeks really that difficult in Havana? Is it even possible to find nice beach houses?
BeersTerry
09-07-14, 16:14
1. Legally, you cannot rent a house in Cuba. You can rent a room in a house.
2. Hydro, gas etc is cheap probably less than $1. There are currently shortages, so food prices are higher than normal which is generally higher on all the islands.
3. If you have not travelled into less than 1st world standards, Cuba may be a little bit of a shock for you. Example, toilets do not have the flush intensity so you end up putting toilet paper in waste basket beside you. That freaks out some people.
4. Things are changing but it still is a communist country. In a communist country, the service provider tends to be king, not the customer.
If I were in your shoes, I would heed the other advice given previously and take my friend up on his offer.
Read prior posts. Also you should pay membership fees.
.Note the advice of others, if what you like are huge fake boobs, which often tend to come with fake blondes, then Cuba is not the place for you. The casa / hotel debate has been discussed here many times before and casas always win out, and you are going with someone who knows the ropes. In fact, I would suggest you read back at least a year, as Cuba has many quirks that are unique. Hopefully, your next post will begin with the following sentence. "I just spent some time reading the Cuba section and have some follow up questions. ".
Note the advice of others, if what you like are huge fake boobs, which often tend to come with fake blondes, then Cuba is not the place for you. The casa / hotel debate has been discussed here many times before and casas always win out, and you are going with someone who knows the ropes. In fact, I would suggest you read back at least a year, as Cuba has many quirks that are unique. Hopefully, your next post will begin with the following sentence. "I just spent some time reading the Cuba section and have some follow up questions. ".We were all new once. And most of us wanted a little info that didn't involve sifting through tons of old arguments and other irrelevant comments to get a sliver of information tucked in between them.
Perhaps someone should write a FAQ guide to Havana and ask Jax to add a thread for it. That might minimize the amount of redundant noob questions. My 2 cents.
We were all new once. And most of us wanted a little info that didn't involve sifting through tons of old arguments and other irrelevant comments to get a sliver of information tucked in between them.
Perhaps someone should write a FAQ guide to Havana and ask Jax to add a thread for it. That might minimize the amount of redundant noob questions. My 2 cents.When preparing for my first Cuba trip I read everything in the forum going back 3 years. Some guys are just lazy and want to take the easy way out. But when dealing with Cuba there is no easy way. As someone said Cuba has many quirks. I've always said that guys need to use their first trip as a scout trip. On that first trip visit casas and interview the owners. If you don't speak Spanish pay a girl to hang with you who can help you interview the casa owners and pay her. Find places that you like for hanging out and eating. If you do this your second trip will be a breeze. It's pussy everywhere in Havana so that won't be a problem your first trip. You will probably have to go to her casa of choice if your staying in a hotel but that not a problem.
Casa living is very different from American standards so on that first trip you might have to splurge for your hotel and experiment with different casas. My first casa had its own entrance but the casa owner lived next door. I was thrilled with it until I tried another casa my third trip. I had banged and developed a friendship with girls living near the first casa but I wanted something new. I figured I could always visit the area around my first casa if need be.
My second casa made me understand what I was missing in that second casa. My second casa had a queen sized bed where the first casa had a double bed. My second casa had a tv in my bedroom and a A / see window unit where my first casa had a tv in the living room not the bedroom. My first casa had a ceiling fan in the bedroom and A / see in the living room only. Plus the second casa had a private entrance.
As you see it's a growing experience that takes time but it's worth it. The women are beautiful and make love with passion, the island is a historical museum in itself, and the people are strong and prideful.
So if you are looking for a quick hit destination, Cuba is not it. You will have less restrictions and more fun in the DR. Guys need to forget Cuba if they don't want to put in the work (read the forums past posts) and plan on making multiple visits. With each visit the island opens up a little more of herself to you.
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