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Lover Africa
10-24-15, 06:30
If she is expecting more than 20 cuc. Well I got news for you she ain't a regular girl!
Any regular nonpro is happy with anything you give her including 10 cuc or clothes!
So called veterans on Cuba don't get the economics or the life of avarage Cubana!!
I paid the following girls 10-20 cuc for a full GFE no rush service for the two relations plus clothes. The 3 girls below are regulars who just needed help. Stop holding pussy on a pedestal.The 3rd one has very nice tits.
HotShaneHot
10-24-15, 09:16
If she is expecting more than 20 cuc. Well I got news for you she ain't a regular girl!
Any regular nonpro is happy with anything you give her including 10 cuc or clothes!
So called veterans on Cuba don't get the economics or the life of avarage Cubana!!
I paid the following girls 10-20 cuc for a full GFE no rush service for the two relations plus clothes. The 3 girls below are regulars who just needed help. Stop holding pussy on a pedestal.Wow.
She has nice tits.
Thats a good photo.
Good work hots.
Finnish Fucker
10-24-15, 17:39
If she is expecting more than 20 cuc. Well I got news for you she ain't a regular girl!
Any regular nonpro is happy with anything you give her including 10 cuc or clothes!
So called veterans on Cuba don't get the economics or the life of avarage Cubana!!
I paid the following girls 10-20 cuc for a full GFE no rush service for the two relations plus clothes. The 3 girls below are regulars who just needed help. Stop holding pussy on a pedestal.During a 1-2 weeks vacation finding a non pro girls is difficult. I bet on the 110 % professional hookers on my short holiday trips. This kind of tits you get with 100 CUC in Havana these days.
Thanks Taboc! I mapped out the University this afternoon and I'm prepared to do troll a couple of days during the week as fishing trips. Now I'm trying to sort out the cafe and park scenes.
Normally I start at 50 CUC and settle at around 60-80 CUC depending on the talent. I suspect the exchange rates aren't great at the moment so I want to start at 30-40 CUC for non-pros.If you do come across a 'real' non pro, and she is good to you, then treat her nice. Money does matter to a non pro, the fact that she is a non pro means she is not making money everyday, so reward her if she gave you the best time of your life. Your chica-budget is a very reasonable one, combined with language skills, you should have a good time.
Kalifornication
10-25-15, 00:51
If you do come across a 'real' non pro, and she is good to you, then treat her nice. Money does matter to a non pro, the fact that she is a non pro means she is not making money everyday, so reward her if she gave you the best time of your life. Your chica-budget is a very reasonable one, combined with language skills, you should have a good time.There are plenty of descent Cuba women who, although could use the extra income, might be insulted by an offer of money. I'm talking about a "true" non-pro. This is a girl that is proud and has self-respect. Contrary to popular belief, not all Cuban woman are born working girls. If you come across one of these, if your the least bit interested, shed your monger robe. Perception is driven by the environments we place ourselves.
Contrary to popular belief, not all Cuban woman are born working girls. If you come across one of these, if your the least bit interested, shed your monger robe. Perception is driven by the environments we place ourselves.Well said, and agree 200%.
SirMarjAlot
10-25-15, 08:53
If she is expecting more than 20 cuc. Well I got news for you she ain't a regular girl!
Any regular nonpro is happy with anything you give her including 10 cuc or clothes!
So called veterans on Cuba don't get the economics or the life of avarage Cubana!!
I paid the following girls 10-20 cuc for a full GFE no rush service for the two relations plus clothes. The 3 girls below are regulars who just needed help. Stop holding pussy on a pedestal.LOL, don't put yourself on a pedestal because you paid 10 CUC below the going rate for a working girl.
You are a monger who travels for pussy and they are working girls.
Don't come on a mongers forum preaching, just share your experiences, honestly and save judgement for judgement day.
P. S learn to rotate pictures before posting.
Kalifornication
10-25-15, 16:48
LOL, don't put yourself on a pedestal because you paid 10 CUC below the going rate for a working girl.
You are a monger who travels for pussy and they are working girls.
Don't come on a mongers forum preaching, just share your experiences, honestly and save judgement for judgement day.
P. S learn to rotate pictures before posting.LOL, that's funny, well said.
LOL, don't put yourself on a pedestal because you paid 10 CUC below the going rate for a working girl.
You are a monger who travels for pussy and they are working girls.
Don't come on a mongers forum preaching, just share your experiences, honestly and save judgement for judgement day.
P. S learn to rotate pictures before posting.BrasilSoccer0 needs to just report and quit with the attitude. I don't know why he continues with this, as these comments have been made before on this very Cuba thread.
Can someone who has visited Habana for New Years before tell me what it's like?
Are prices elevated for the holidays? Is the city in a festive mood? Is police presence elevated? Are businesses closed?
Thanks in advance.
Gents,
Spent two weekends in Habana. Wrapped up yesterday. Here are my notes I took through the 10 day trip.
Had a private apartment, as usual, in centro. First time in that part of the city. Hit it hard the first night and ended up at Casa de musica. A lot of sad faces as it was kinda late but I picked up a good one and service was good. All started out asking for $100. But easily go down. All else expect money first at the apt. Best to discuss that at the club. I always think service is better if you pay after.
Saturday I was with some local friends I know. We hit up the Up / down bar in vedado. Good looking crowd. Same owner as Sangri-la. Looks the same too. Definite opportunity there for P4 P. Good talent.
Sunday I was hopping around Italiano and met a muleta. She turned out to be very good too. Risky bet paid off. Great ass.
Side note, all the girls in Habana had no problem accepting American dollars when I offered. Saved me the time from exchanging so much money. Some wanted 10% more but I just laughed that off.
On the tail end of my week, I was in a private apartment in Vedado. I rolled out solo on Friday and hit up Cafe la Flauta Magica. Nice rooftop place to take a date. Only one P4 P girl there. Then I headed to Encuentros where I got solicited before I walked in. Bought her a drink and took her number as the night was young. Cool place to go though. From there I Headed to Salon Rojo but it wasn't exciting. Getting late but still wasn't done. Raced out to Casa de musica in Miramar. Horrible too. Don't go there on a Friday night! Cabbie told me about LOS Piedras. That place was on my list for Sat but he took me anyway. It was bumping! Tons of talent. Met a stunning blonde and fell in love for 2 hours. Just a decent time tho. You know how the hot ones can be. Highly recommend LP for Fri night.
Saturday I was at a huge local concert. We couldn't see straight when we left. We made it to Las Piedras but it wasn't as good as the night before. I went home empty handed.
Sunday morning I texted the girl that approached me at Encuentros. She was in my bed in about an hour and cost me $45.
Cell phone is very important. I noticed a lot of girls will give you their cell number but then call from a land line. Be sure to get both as it can difficult to decipher who is calling. Some girls just have a cell to get incoming texts but never use their cells to respond.
Sunday night I was getting low on funds and so I bartered some toiletries, a towel, and a portable charger for a Chica I met when I was on a bici taxi. That worked out well as she lived close by, so taxi over was only 2 CUC.
Other notes.
Up Sala club is Open till 10 am-Habana-.
La Fabrica de Arte Cubano-supposed to be the number one high end club right know. I never made it there though.
Corner of 26 and 11 vedado close to miramar.
Bring lighters, candy, cell phone with translator app.
$93 for $100 conversion on street was the best I could get.
Wifi cheaper everywhere vs January.
Bici taxis are the best. I just tell them to go slow when they see a cute girl. The older bici taxi guys will really work hard to help you out.
Taxi prices up from Jan $3=5, $10=12. And that's after negotiating down! I walked away a few times.
Water and beer in fridges in casas and apartments. That was new.
Bolabana was at max capacity, nobody else could enter, by midnight on Sat. Plan accordingly as that place is great.
No $25 airport departure tax dealie anymore. More money for the chicas.
Don't hesitate to get cell numbers and do some day time damage. The chicas will take a lot less because it's not prime time, it's bonus time for them. And it's too damn hot to leave the apartment anyway. Cmon, how many times do you have to see Plaza de Armas LOL.
The next itinerary I want to do:
Habana 3 nights-Vedado-Fri-Sun. Maybe stay in Miramar.
Holguin-4 nights (private apartment). I posted notes about Holguin in the other areas section. It was awesome! Highly recommend it.
Habana 3 nights-Vedado-Fri-Sun.
Message me with any questions or how to find a good private apartment. Happy travels.
Can someone who has visited Habana for New Years before tell me what it's like?
Are prices elevated for the holidays? Is the city in a festive mood? Is police presence elevated? Are businesses closed?
Thanks in advance.Hey Mr Gogo,
Remember me? The little boy who should spend "the next 8 years saving money". Here's some magnanimity for you.
In 2011 and 2012 I traveled to Havana mid to late December. One of those trips my return flight was on December 31st. I wouldn't recommend New Years or Christmas for two main reasons.
Increased police presence.
It's noticeable. I witnessed a couple of girls get tossed into cop cars and I couldn't tell if they were working or simply waiting for a ride. On one occasion, at la Cecilia, I managed to enjoy my cigar in peace at my table which was unprecedented to me. The girl I was chatting with in line mouthed the words "la policia" to me from a nearby table. I played spot the undercover cop unsuccessfully for the first half hour before they left. Another time at Don Cangrejo I had a difficult time convincing the girls I wasn't a cop myself. My Spanish had improved and my tan was Latin bronze but I still couldn't believe they were skeptical of my drivers licence.
Slim pickings.
The closer I got to the week between Christmas and New Years the less selection I noticed everywhere. The trend is all the girls with roots or relatives in the provinces (there are a lot of them) make moves there for the holidays leaving Havana a bit bare.
I can't comment too much on increased prices but I do recall thinking some of the New Years packages at the big venues overpriced for Havana.
Hey Mr Gogo,
Remember me? The little boy who should spend "the next 8 years saving money". Here's some magnanimity for you.
In 2011 and 2012 I traveled to Havana mid to late December. One of those trips my return flight was on December 31st. I wouldn't recommend New Years or Christmas for two main reasons.
Increased police presence.
It's noticeable. I witnessed a couple of girls get tossed into cop cars and I couldn't tell if they were working or simply waiting for a ride. On one occasion, at la Cecilia, I managed to enjoy my cigar in peace at my table which was unprecedented to me. The girl I was chatting with in line mouthed the words "la policia" to me from a nearby table. I played spot the undercover cop unsuccessfully for the first half hour before they left. Another time at Don Cangrejo I had a difficult time convincing the girls I wasn't a cop myself. My Spanish had improved and my tan was Latin bronze but I still couldn't believe they were skeptical of my drivers licence.
Slim pickings.
The closer I got to the week between Christmas and New Years the less selection I noticed everywhere. The trend is all the girls with roots or relatives in the provinces (there are a lot of them) make moves there for the holidays leaving Havana a bit bare.
I can't comment too much on increased prices but I do recall thinking some of the New Years packages at the big venues overpriced for Havana.Thanks Trisnate. You said you were having trouble getting the ISG membership money up so I just gave my advice to save up. Anyway your info above will factor into my choice for New Years. Keep coming with good info like that and I might just pay your membership fee for you LOL.
Can someone who has visited Habana for New Years before tell me what it's like?
Are prices elevated for the holidays? Is the city in a festive mood? Is police presence elevated? Are businesses closed?
Thanks in advance.2011 to 2012. Same prices. The city was in the same mood of scarcity, darkness and desperation. I didn't notice any increase in police presence. Most clubs at least in Vedado were closed for New Years Eve. There were fewer taxis available for a ride.
2011 to 2012. Same prices. The city was in the same mood of scarcity, darkness and desperation. I didn't notice any increase in police presence. Most clubs at least in Vedado were closed for New Years Eve. There were fewer taxis available for a ride.Thanks Ques.
Lucky Nuts
10-28-15, 18:44
Gents,
Spent two weekends in Habana. Wrapped up yesterday. Here are my notes I took through the 10 day trip.
Had a private apartment, as usual, in centro. First time in that part of the city. Hit it hard the first night and ended up at Casa de musica. A lot of sad faces as it was kinda late but I picked up a good one and service was good. All started out asking for $100. But easily go down. All else expect money first at the apt. Best to discuss that at the club. I always think service is better if you pay after.
Saturday I was with some local friends I know. We hit up the Up / down bar in vedado. Good looking crowd. Same owner as Sangri-la. Looks the same too. Definite opportunity there for P4 P. Good talent.
Sunday I was hopping around Italiano and met a muleta. She turned out to be very good too. Risky bet paid off. Great ass.
Side note, all the girls in Habana had no problem accepting American dollars when I offered. Saved me the time from exchanging so much money. Some wanted 10% more but I just laughed that off.
On the tail end of my week, I was in a private apartment in Vedado. I rolled out solo on Friday and hit up Cafe la Flauta Magica. Nice rooftop place to take a date. Only one P4 P girl there. Then I headed to Encuentros where I got solicited before I walked in. Bought her a drink and took her number as the night was young. Cool place to go though. From there I Headed to Salon Rojo but it wasn't exciting. Getting late but still wasn't done. Raced out to Casa de musica in Miramar. Horrible too. Don't go there on a Friday night! Cabbie told me about LOS Piedras. That place was on my list for Sat but he took me anyway. It was bumping! Tons of talent. Met a stunning blonde and fell in love for 2 hours. Just a decent time tho. You know how the hot ones can be. Highly recommend LP for Fri night.
Saturday I was at a huge local concert. We couldn't see straight when we left. We made it to Las Piedras but it wasn't as good as the night before. I went home empty handed.
Sunday morning I texted the girl that approached me at Encuentros. She was in my bed in about an hour and cost me $45.
Cell phone is very important. I noticed a lot of girls will give you their cell number but then call from a land line. Be sure to get both as it can difficult to decipher who is calling. Some girls just have a cell to get incoming texts but never use their cells to respond.
Sunday night I was getting low on funds and so I bartered some toiletries, a towel, and a portable charger for a Chica I met when I was on a bici taxi. That worked out well as she lived close by, so taxi over was only 2 CUC.
Other notes.
Up Sala club is Open till 10 am-Habana-.
La Fabrica de Arte Cubano-supposed to be the number one high end club right know. I never made it there though.
Corner of 26 and 11 vedado close to miramar.
Bring lighters, candy, cell phone with translator app.
$93 for $100 conversion on street was the best I could get.
Wifi cheaper everywhere vs January.
Bici taxis are the best. I just tell them to go slow when they see a cute girl. The older bici taxi guys will really work hard to help you out.
Taxi prices up from Jan $3=5, $10=12. And that's after negotiating down! I walked away a few times.
Water and beer in fridges in casas and apartments. That was new.
Bolabana was at max capacity, nobody else could enter, by midnight on Sat. Plan accordingly as that place is great.
No $25 airport departure tax dealie anymore. More money for the chicas.
Don't hesitate to get cell numbers and do some day time damage. The chicas will take a lot less because it's not prime time, it's bonus time for them. And it's too damn hot to leave the apartment anyway. Cmon, how many times do you have to see Plaza de Armas LOL.
The next itinerary I want to do:
Habana 3 nights-Vedado-Fri-Sun. Maybe stay in Miramar.
Holguin-4 nights (private apartment). I posted notes about Holguin in the other areas section. It was awesome! Highly recommend it.
Habana 3 nights-Vedado-Fri-Sun.
Message me with any questions or how to find a good private apartment. Happy travels.Great report Tacoma! Thanks for the all the detail. You mentioned the importance of a cell phone. What's the process / cost of getting a SIM card? Is it basically the same and as easy as other countries? Is it only good for voice and texting or can you buy data? Thanks again!
Great report Tacoma! Thanks for the all the detail. You mentioned the importance of a cell phone. What's the process / cost of getting a SIM card? Is it basically the same and as easy as other countries? Is it only good for voice and texting or can you buy data? Thanks again!Hey VCG,
I too am interested in this kind of info. I have a contact in La Habana so I emailed her and she got me the info that I'm enclosing below.
It is in Español so hopefully you can understand it of have someone translate it for you.
Here it goes:
El costo de 3. 00 CUC es por la renta de la linea. El costo de las llamadas es aparte. Puedes dejar un fondo del que se te descuentan las llamadas o comprar tarjetas prepagadas. LOS precios de las llamadas en el territorio de Cuba son LOS siguientes:
Llamadas Nacionales.
Tarifa normal: Todos LOS theías de 7:00 AM a 10:59 PM.
Llamada originada: 0. 35 CUC / min.
Llamada recibida de un servicio fijo: 0. 35 CUC / min.
Tarifa reducida: Todos LOS theías de 11:00 PM a 6:59 AM.
Llamada originada: 0. 10 CUC / min.
Llamada recibida de un servicio fijo: 0. 10 CUC / min.
En las llamadas de movil a movil paga el que emite la llamada.
Cubacel has a website (also in Español) and they have a lot of info also.
Mondo.
Great report Tacoma! Thanks for the all the detail. You mentioned the importance of a cell phone. What's the process / cost of getting a SIM card? Is it basically the same and as easy as other countries? Is it only good for voice and texting or can you buy data? Thanks again!Hey VCG! You have to buy an unlocked quad band GSM phone. I bought a blackberry pearl on Amazon that does the trick. Once you land, go to the Etecsa office at the airport and set up a temporary number. You can decide how long you want it active. I believe it's $30. I usually add on $10 in credit for calls and texts. That will last you a week unless you send a ton of outgoing texts. I'm not sure about the data though. Never tried to use any data as wifi isn't too hard to come by.
One last note, I've never been able to find an Etecsa office to issue a temp number, outside of the airport location. They close at 7 pm each day.
BeersTerry
10-30-15, 00:49
Isn't a sim card period worth $30 now?
Either way, it is way better than paying the $70 - 80 I used to pay and then giving it away to your favourite chica of the day at the end of the trip.
New Years, I believe the Cubans celebrate New Years on the 1st of January.
The December 31st stuff is mostly for tourists. There is a big bash in Habana Vieja that is expensive and mostly a waste of time. As with any large event, organization and execution is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor.
I haven't been to any of the clubs recently during New Years so I can't comment.
The time to be around Havana was 2 years ago, there was alot of money on the streets and lots of Cubans partying in the clubs.
I was in Cuba 5-6 years ago and had a fantastic time. Rented car for a week, picking up girls on streets, every girl in designated clubs was P4 P. Casa owner was a fantastic host. She told me if you walk with a girl on the street and get stopped you tell them she is your fiance and there is no laws against walking with fiance on together, if you back out she gets in trouble. Most hardened pros were really scared to be seen around me, others I drove to cafes and it was no problem seemed like. What is the current LE situation in that regard, has it changed? If anyone has reliable casa contact please PM me, I've lost all my contacts.
I was in Cuba 5-6 years ago and had a fantastic time. Rented car for a week, picking up girls on streets, every girl in designated clubs was P4 P. Casa owner was a fantastic host. She told me if you walk with a girl on the street and get stopped you tell them she is your fiance and there is no laws against walking with fiance on together, if you back out she gets in trouble. Most hardened pros were really scared to be seen around me, others I drove to cafes and it was no problem seemed like. What is the current LE situation in that regard, has it changed? If anyone has reliable casa contact please PM me, I've lost all my contacts.I couldn't edit the post and after I did RTFF I'll answer my own question: LE situation didn't get any better and got worse if anything. Other than that I don't think much changed in the last 5 years, ok chicka prices went up by 20 bucks, it won't ever be like it was back in the 90's as some have suggested and before I went there were also some members saying it got so bad they would not be going back again. I had a blast though both P4 P girls and meeting them on the streets and from the car. Going again in January.
Day. 1.
Havana west of central park, girls sitting at table on Obispo street. 1 black girl and 1 thin blanca, my favorite. The blanca is 21. Prices started at 50, I say 30, they say 40.
Ok, off we go. A bit high, but I wanted little drama as possible for my first 'event'! Rock out with your cock out to quote a fellow monger!
As usual in Cuba, I follow at a distance to the casa. I love how these casa's are buried in a labyrinth of stairs and halls behind non-descript doors of the Havana street.
Casa was 15 cuc to the homeowner. She shows her face, collects the money and disappears, telling me I cannot pay after. Pay now or go away pretty much.
Body of a 10, no kids. Cuban girls are usually honest when it comes to telling about the kid situation.
She tries to be funny giving me high fives, asking if I like it. But a bad experience overall. She freaked out when I went to touch her lovely breasts, the likes of which you just don't see often. Natural and fully round, I just wanted to caress them and hold them for 15 minutes. She wouldn't let me touch her pussy. No kissing. She started off by giving me a rough handjob, something I can do at home for free. She slips on the condom for a covered BJ. No way for a BBBJ. Geez. She works on the tip only. Sigh. She keeps telling me to relax as I sit there motionless, not being able to do anything with my hands as if her body was either made of the finest, most fragile porcelain or was covered in a leprous disease. Annoying to be told to relax when you are pretty much forced to be a stone. I flip her and finish missionary.
She says she will get me more girls, but specified to me that I only pay them 30. She showed me pictures but she was hotter than all of them.
Weird sense of economics. She could have told me to pay them 40 and kept the 10 cuc commission. This is Cuba though where people do not have some of the most basic sense of economics. We agree to meet same place tomorrow at 4 pm. The next day she never showed.
Day 2.
Havana is 20 minutes away from Guanabo and as I am approaching one of the traffic lights I decide on impulse to pick up someone and give them a free ride into the city. I see a pretty girl among the crowd and in the 1 second I had to decide to pull away or stop for her (or the other hands outstretched), I stop. She hops in and is as always very friendly like all Cubans. Within 5 minutes she was rubbing my cock over my pants and I knew this was on. No kids, 22, blanca, skinny and pretty.
I ask her about her 'trabajo' and she says no trabajo. I wonder oh geez, Have I got a hardcore pro just by randomly selecting someone standing at a highway bus stop? She directs me to a casa in one of the outer Havana suburbs, the property lined with chicken coops and a guy making / bottling some sort of beverage in one of the huts.
Once in the room, I am asked to go out and move the car as another car was coming into the property to park. It is a Cuban dude with the girl he picked up somewhere.
My girl was very nice and bubbly, great attitude. As I am waiting for her to clean up in the bathroom, from across the hall, the girl that came in with the other guy comes into my room naked. I am buck naked too, so I grab her, lift her up and pretend to fuck her holding her in front of me. At that moment my girl comes in, we all laugh and they offer me a 3 some. I decline.
She started with a wet BBBJ, properly done, licking my shaft, etc. It was followed by BB missionary. I come all over her smiling face. She gives me her number and we promise to meet tomorrow at 10 am. Great experience.
The casa here was 10 cuc, the girl accepted 30 cuc. I am getting smarter now that the first bang is out of the way!
As we leave and out of earshot of the girls, I ask the Cuban dude how much he paid. 15 cuc to the girl. We fist bump and away he goes. Always interesting to know what the locals pay. I am happy to pay 30 cuc for a good time and they need it more than I do.
Havana 4 -6 pm walkabout.
Not many girls will aggressively proposition you right out in the open (daygame), but when it happens I find it is most always ugly black girls. I like when your eyes lock with theirs as you walk towards each other on the sidewalk. This happened a few times with cute mulatta's and blanca's, but I never partook having just come off a nice lay. Struck up a nice chat with a girl working at one of the souvenir shops on Obispo Street nearer to Old Havana. She was 23, sweet and cute, and offered to come drinking with me when her shift ends at 9 pm. I agreed but was not sure where I would be at 9 pm.
Returned to Havana at midnight, missing the store girl. Walked Obispo, quickly realizing that the girls have largely vacated this area except for 1 or 2 desperately ugly SW's. Most have, mainly gone to the clubs, ave 23 or the malecon. It was Thursday night and Casa de Musica looked closed.
The malecon feels like 40 miles long. There certainly is people in areas all along, but the heaviest places that had the most potential for pickups from observing is at the end of avenida 23 and at the end of Galiano.
Avenida 23 runs east-west and is also known as La Rampa. To find it watch for the imposing National Hotel of Cuba. Driving away from central Havana, you may miss the gas station (on the south side of the corner) that faces north, but if you do miss it, there is a couple of turnarounds soon after. The orange / yellow gas station says 'La Rampa' right up on the front.
There is 100's of people just hanging around along the first 7 blocks or so of this street. Good police presence. People jaywalk in front of them. Lots and lots of good potential. Crowds gather around the entries to the various basement clubs (eg, Tikoa, Sofia). I went down to the entrance of Tokia and there was maybe 10 girls standing there smoking. Inside looked full. I don't know if it was a lineup of sorts, but the doorman told the girls all to go inside and immediately after 10 more came out all making looks and noises at me. But I was so horrified at the dreadful looks and body shapes, I hightailed it right the f* out of there, not even entering, telling the doorman 'manana'! These girls were all 3's and 4's, no kidding. Just butt ugly.
Never passed by Salon Rojo, missed it damn.
Google maps shows Galiano, but I noticed the street signs said 'Italia'. It is the same street that Casa de Musica is on. It runs north-south and at the end is the big, blue Bellevue Deauville hotel. Lots of potential along the malecon here and standing outside the entrance. The club downstairs looked full. A guy comes up to me on the sidewalk and before he has a chance to get the standard 'hey fren! I say 'no gracias'. Repeated 'no gracias' doesn't deter him and his friend to offers of 'tassi', 'seegars' and '1 minute, please', so he tells me 'fuck you'!
I turn around and said 'fuck you too' and I wasn't exactly joking. He gives me the thumbs up, a big smile and we go our separate ways. God, I love Cuba. I would have punched him, but he obviously was just enjoying practising his English.
She freaked out when I went to touch her lovely breasts, the likes of which you just don't see often. rough handjob. No BBBJ. Works only on the tipThanks for the report. I am glad the rest of the experience was not that bad.
We all know Havana, especially chicas on the street looking for mongers are no much different than chicas from anywhere else. I have heard some interesting stories from two mongers who just came back after spending a week only in Havana. They said they will never go back and felt if they add up all the costs, and then spend the same in Tijuana they will get the same experience. I don't agree with that, but respect their thoughts, afterall they just experienced it.
I will be there as transit next week. I am probably the only one in the planet who would take cubana for a fucking 10 HR+ flight when there are ton of other options to fly from home. I will get half a night out, and then on the way back I will stay longer. Hmm, what all some of us do for a pussy.
Hi there everybody.
This is kind of a dream I could live without, but It would be great to find a Lesbian Club at Havana or anywhere else on the island, and there pickup a pair of girlfriends an invite them to go out.
OK OK it is the fucking fantasy of all of you mongers!!
But if anybody knows about a club or bar filled with lesbians that would be the greatest treasure I personally could find in the whole world!
Jaja OK maybe it is just a joke but wouldn't be great?
Cheers.
Have fun guys.
2 of the Metro Habana maps join together.
It would be great to find a Lesbian Club at Havana or anywhere else on the island, and there pickup a pair of girlfriends an invite tI have never heard of a open lesbian club. Same sex relations are expected to be private and non commercial in nature. So keep that in mind when you venture out there.
You can try Las Vegas Cabaret on Infanta, closer to Malecon. It can be 99% gays vs 1% Lesbians. Befriend someone there, or further down on Infanta at Bim Bom, or at Habaneciendo opp Casa de Musica centro and ask for help. You might be lucky. I was told there is a place where lesbians get together, and the place changes every week or so. Some one was to take me there, warning ahead that there are many feminists in the crowd, so there may not be any luck getting them to bed. I did not want to waste my evening there, so passed on it.
You can goto Mi Cayito, a gay part of Playa Del Este next to Atlantico hotel. Again 99% gays vs 1% lesbians, if at all. Make friends, and you never know. I went in and walked out in two seconds, can't put up with seeing two guys kissing.
I have had threesomes in Santa Clara and Havana, where most of the chicas were kissing each other or playing with boobs, but only once had them eating their pussy out all these years.
Good luck, and report back.
Hi there everybody.
This is kind of a dream I could live without, but It would be great to find a Lesbian Club at Havana or anywhere else on the island, and there pickup a pair of girlfriends an invite them to go out.
OK OK it is the fucking fantasy of all of you mongers!!
But if anybody knows about a club or bar filled with lesbians that would be the greatest treasure I personally could find in the whole world!
Jaja OK maybe it is just a joke but wouldn't be great?
CheersI questioned a girl once about the lesbian scene in Havana as we chilled in bed. She said it was very underground but there is a hotel that is known for its foreign lesbian tourists and the local girls getting together. Don't remember the name of the hotel but it was lesbian friendly. She gave me the impression that straight dudes shouldn't apply.
Hello Everyone,
Please recommend nice place Girl friendly Havana Casa I am going to stay one month please and please.
I am going to stay one month in Havana.
Can you please recommend girl friendly casa in Havana.
Please and thank you.
I am going to stay one month in Havana.
Can you please recommend girl friendly casa in Havana.
Please and thank you.Most, but not all, casas will allow Cuban guests. However, it's best to clear it with them before agreeing to stay there.
I am going to stay one month in Havana.
Can you please recommend girl friendly casa in Havana.
Please and thank you.As I posted a few pages back, stay in a hotel one night and walk around that day checking out casas and interviewing the owner. Also a month is a long time in Havana IMO, so you might want to book the Havana Casa for the first week and maybe relocate to another city later in your trip. Believe me having the right Casa can make or break your trip.
I am going to stay one month in Havana.
Can you please recommend girl friendly casa in Havana.
Please and thank you.As I posted a few pages back, stay in a hotel one night and walk around that day checking out casas and interviewing the owner. Also a month is a long time in Havana IMO, so you might want to book the Havana Casa for the first week and maybe relocate to another city later in your trip. Believe me having the right Casa can make or break your trip.
I had to travel for work, and this time the contractor said they will not pay for travel which meant I have to pay from pocket, which meant I can travel in any airline, which meant I can transit via Havana. Mexican customs asked me why I am travelling to Cuba that often, not sure what is their problem. I said I only travelled 7 times this year, is that too many times. I knew it would [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) him off. He took every thing out of my bag and searched. I do not even carry booze when I travel to Cuba. He also took my phone and connected to their computer and scanned it. He plugged an USB drive to my laptop and did a scan as well. Again, I was cool as there is nothing for him. I am writing all this as it helps to be clean when you travel around. While waiting for the flight, two other passengers also said their phone and laptop was searched the same way, they were Mexican couples and older cuban lady, so I am sure my answer that pissed him off was not the reason. It was the next day to the Paris attacks, may be that is the reason.
Landed early in the evening, it was a breeze through the immigration and customs. I have one evening to spend and wanted to make the most. I took a nap, and it became long sleep as I was too tired. By the time I woke up it was around 10 pm. I called few and either they are not there or the cell is switched off. I went to the small cafe near central park, had my cuban pork sandwich, only cubans can make it that good. While walking back the chef dressed was standing outside Sloppy Joe with menu. I can see my dear Cuba is going to be lost very soon become like Miami in no time. I asked myself will I frequent Cuba if it becomes that way, don't think so. There is more to Cuba than chicas, if those things are lost then what is the point.
Walked on Malecon without any purpose. Not too many. Bought crystal and sat on the side walks of Calle O. An negro approaches me and asks whether I want anything, the way he said it was not good, so told him to get lost. It is almost midnight, ton of chicas walk by, all giving looks. I do not seem to like anyone as they are all business like. I walk back and see this chica sitting alone waiting for her friend to come back after work. I start talking and she is willing to come with me. I have my own casa with keys, still ask her for ID, she says she does not have one and she is 19. I don't want to take any chance, so tell her next time. She says she likes me and says that she was in a hurry as she was getting a ride from Mariano and even left her watch at home. She sounds very genuine. I would want to take her to bed for sure, but for some reason don't feel comfortable without the ID. So tell her to give me her number, and make sure she gets it next time.
I am going to call it a day without chicas. I feel good just being in Havana, so it is all worth it. I come back to my casa, and the neighbour gives me a hug and asks how I am doing and when I had arrived. My neighbours back home don't even know who I am, that is the difference.
Next morning I call the chica and she came running back with the ID. Ate her for breakfast and a good passionate session. She says I have a the cuban muscles and a yuma brain. She stays with me during the day, and even gets out and brings lunch. We had it three times. We did not discuss money, and I give her 40. She has not seen the airport ever, so wants to come with me, so hops on the taxi. She takes my hand bag and walks into the airport as though she is travelling, I am glad to see her smile and happy.
BeersTerry
11-21-15, 20:16
Ya. I like the smell of Cuba, that smell when you land (minus the diesel and the jet fuel).
Where else can you wait in line for bread and meet your next girlfriend?
Hello Gents,
Here is my report for what it's worth. It wasn't entirely a mongering trip so I'll keep it short.
Friday. Touch down in the middle of the evening with enough time for dinner and a call to a top chica from a previous trip. She suggests La Cecilia for a rendez vous so we head there around midnight. I have never seen La Cecilia so bare. It was at 1/10th capacity. The chica flops. I figured we might as well stay for the show but the start time dragged. I pulled one chicas number for keeps sake but she wasn't that hot up close and personal. We bail before the show starts; I drop off my partner and head to Las Piedras. God bless this forum because Las Piedras was bumping at 230 am And the talent was great. I pulled a few more numbers and danced with a few chicas but was feeling nauseated near the end (probably one too many drinks) and decided not to risk a bad performance. I bailed at 4 am and this party was still jumping off.
Saturday. Decided to check out a spot that was suggested by a couple of cabbies called Sarao. It's in a strange locale (17th and E) and sticks out like a sore thumb. I managed to get in with a short wait. It feels like stepping into a time machine and going into the future. It has an art deco feel with plenty of TVs and well dressed patrons. It's small with one bar which is incredibly annoying. Long story short I felt an air of pretentiousness in the place like I was in a typical north american club. Only a few working girls in the crowd and they were ugly. I wouldn't recommend it for mongering. I bail early to Las Piedras around 1 am Problem is when I arrive I notice it's much less bumping than the night before. I've read that is an after hours trickle down pussy spot. I basically wait a couple of hours until the A team shows up. Conducted a couple of failed interviews. My favorite girl from the night before (Julia) shows up and I be line it to her and hug her LOL. 5'5" triguena with Asian eyes, a sweet ass, thin waist and a beautiful face. We work out the details quickly and we're off to my casa. 60 CUC and a small perfume (including taxi). Great performance / attitude and fantastic ass. In retrospect I wish I had repeated her but I told myself not to repeat on this trip. She had a very positive attitude.
Sunday. My Ipod dies on me where I stored all my numbers the last two days. Decide to check out El Johny since it is walking distance from my casa and I'm short on numbers for the week. I walk in and have a look at this empty place at midnight. A few working girls but it was a really sad scene. El Johny time has past. I go home for some early sleep.
Tuesday. Do a tour of the university with my partner. Didn't have much luck with the students there. We stop for refreshments at the cafe literario close by and the waitress asks us what we're up to that night. We pull her number and I ask her to bring a pretty friend. We head to las Piedras later that night. The A team is there early this night and I feel like covering some cab money and bailing on this waitress' friend. In the end I pay a cut price (40 CUC with taxi) for her friend but it was not a great experience. She just wasn't hot enough when the clothes came off. Lesson learned.
Thursday. My flight leaves in the early morning. I head to La Rampa for a new experience. I check out Salon Rojo but the cops have put a clamp down on the place and it's empty. Check out la gruta which is close by and there are a lot more people there. I decide on paying the 3 CUC cover and head in at around midnight. Gents, I'm not sure if it was just this night or a customary thing but over 95% of the girls were negras or mulattas. Not that there's anything wrong with that but I'm into the light or olive skin chicas with a European look. I decide to bail to Las Piedras yet again in the interest of time. Touch down around 1 and spot a black pearl Latina in a red jump suit on the patio. Her name is Rosie, 5'5" with an almost eastern European hint to her. Very professional attitude. We agree on 80 CUC with the rest of my perfumes. It's steep but at this point I just want to maximize my sleep. Head back to the casa and she was satisfactory. Great body and good performance but what deflated it for me was when she went for reverse cow girl she asks specifically for me to not slap her ass please. I think she may have been married. Stupid * should wear a shirt to the club that says no ass slapping because its a shitty fucking rule.
That's about the size of it. I hope this helps some of you guys out.
Mucha suerte,
Trisnate
Havana is still good, but there has been a change in recent weeks. The police have been very active in the last weeks, so many girls are afraid. And many are already arrested. There are also many girls who have fled to other countries now, you can notice it when you walk around in the streets.
Before you could not go out the door without a hola and smile from the girls. Which in Cuba means that they are ready for some action. Now many are afraid even to look at you. You can now go for example on calle 23 without receiving any offer. It was impossible before. Same with the beach, almost no girls. If you find a girl, they are afraid to go behind you on your way to casa. That was no problem before. On a recent trip we were visited by police twice. Inside the casa! They are not interested in tourists, but will take the girls.
If you know Cuba and can speak a little Spanish, you'll still find some action. But it is a bit harder. The most important thing for me is that so many girls between 20-40 have now left the country. The attractive girls are harder to find.
But I have got some absolutely insane experiences with girls in this country, so I'm not ready to leave the country yet. But hope that this is not a trend that continues.
Thanks to Cklein74,Taboc and Trisnate for your valuable reports.
CKlein74, I also have noticed girls vanishing and thought, what is going on in Havana? One girl went to China for contract work and my other two favoritas have married German guys and now live in Germany. I always said once the Americans come that they will be snatching these girls up for wives and moving them to the States so maybe the Euro guys are jumping the gun before the race starts.
Since I've been going to Cuba the girls have never been aggressive unless they are very hardcore pros. Its always been a "hands off" policy when dealing with tourists. With that said, once they know you and become familiar with you knowing you aren't with the policia, the girls become very friendly. I find it very strange that the police would wait until the girls are in the apartment to come and arrest them, never heard of that happening before. I wish you would have given more detail on that; Did they ask you for money, was it a shake down of the girls, what did they say to you etc? Some might wonder if you first ever post is designed to keep people away but I don't think that was your intention.
Trisnate, I'm glad you learned your lesson about the waitresses friend, that's how we grow. If you invite a girl or / and her friend out you are only required to buy her drinks and maybe food. Sex from either party is not guaranteed so if you decide to pass it shouldn't be a problem. This is known as the interview process and it works from both sides. I've been to La grunta many times and its one of my favorite spots if you go on the correct night. Yes, its full of negritas but Havana is half that. From my experience the blanca chic with euro looks usually come at a premium and with an attitude minus the GFE. They are less appreciative and feel more privileged. As for the last girl that wouldn't let you touch her: This is where the interview process pays dividends. You want to look into her eyes and read her reaction (shy, appreciative, bold, slutty). You want to touch her arms and lean closer to her, the more receptive she is to closeness will give you a tell of her bedroom demeanor and how she feels about you. Here is a trick I do; I ask her to put her hands on mine facing down and I close my eyes and feel her palms. If they are rough that means she works hard in the house, if they are soft she probably doesn't do shit. I tell her either she works hard in the house or she doesn't, her reply is either to agree or not but it usually starts a conversation and makes her wonder how I figured her out plus it allows me to touch her being slick. Closeness is important for the interview. Also you want to negotiate the price down some to save face and get respect. If she feels you are new to the game and can over-charge you then she won't have respect for you in the bedroom. Latin women like a guy in charge so be prepared to let them walk before they over-charge you.
Taboc, great report. It actually sounded like a report I would write, keep up the good work.
P.S. Thanks again for reporting guys, and much respect to all.
My favorite chica in Cuba moved to Italy two weeks ago after marrying to an old Italian guy. It is certainly true many Cubans, including the best looking chicas, are leaving Cuba now. Having said that, it is always the trend in Cuba.
Havana is still good, but there has been a change in recent weeks. The police have been very active in the last weeks, so many girls are afraid. And many are already arrested. There are also many girls who have fled to other countries now, you can notice it when you walk around in the streets.
Before you could not go out the door without a hola and smile from the girls. Which in Cuba means that they are ready for some action. Now many are afraid even to look at you. You can now go for example on calle 23 without receiving any offer. It was impossible before. Same with the beach, almost no girls. If you find a girl, they are afraid to go behind you on your way to casa. That was no problem before. On a recent trip we were visited by police twice. Inside the casa! They are not interested in tourists, but will take the girls.
If you know Cuba and can speak a little Spanish, you'll still find some action. But it is a bit harder. The most important thing for me is that so many girls between 20-40 have now left the country. The attractive girls are harder to find.
But I have got some absolutely insane experiences with girls in this country, so I'm not ready to leave the country yet. But hope that this is not a trend that continues.
Thanks to Cklein74,Taboc and Trisnate for your valuable reports.
CKlein74, I also have noticed girls vanishing and thought, what is going on in Havana? One girl went to China for contract work and my other two favoritas have married German guys and now live in Germany. I always said once the Americans come that they will be snatching these girls up for wives and moving them to the States so maybe the Euro guys are jumping the gun before the race starts.
Since I've been going to Cuba the girls have never been aggressive unless they are very hardcore pros. Its always been a "hands off" policy when dealing with tourists. With that said, once they know you and become familiar with you knowing you aren't with the policia, the girls become very friendly. I find it very strange that the police would wait until the girls are in the apartment to come and arrest them, never heard of that happening before. I wish you would have given more detail on that; Did they ask you for money, was it a shake down of the girls, what did they say to you etc? Some might wonder if you first ever post is designed to keep people away but I don't think that was your intention.Well no one got arrested, but the police came inside the casa. This have never happened before. And it was no hardcore pros, I don't travel to Cuba to be with pros. One time I actually had a threesome in my room, when the police came. They asked the casa owner some questions, but luckly they didn't go inside my room to check for chicas (I don't think they can do it without a warrent). The police then waited the whole night in the street. Outside the casa. To see if the girls came. But they stayed with me instead. So lucky me!
Actually the Police got worse after the 1st of November. I have heard that the police now have microfones on them, so that the police station can hear everything that's going on. Before the girls could buy them out with 10 dollars or something, but that's now harder. I actually saw girls got arrested.
Strawboy. Its true this has always been a trend, but this time its serious. I have friends that have gone to Cuba many years and they can see a big change the last year. Specially after the summer.
Many of the attrictive girls are now married in another country and many have fled to Miami or something. When the girls that are left are afraid of the police, its not a good situation for us.
Well no one got arrested, but the police came inside the casa. This have never happened before. And it was no hardcore pros, I don't travel to Cuba to be with pros. One time I actually had a threesome in my room, when the police came. They asked the casa owner some questions, but luckly they didn't go inside my room to check for chicas (I don't think they can do it without a warrent). The police then waited the whole night in the street. Outside the casa. To see if the girls came. But they stayed with me instead. So lucky me!
Actually the Police got worse after the 1st of November. I have heard that the police now have microfones on them, so that the police station can hear everything that's going on. Before the girls could buy them out with 10 dollars or something, but that's now harder. I actually saw girls got arrested.
Strawboy. Its true this has always been a trend, but this time its serious. I have friends that have gone to Cuba many years and they can see a big change the last year. Specially after the summer.
Many of the attrictive girls are now married in another country and many have fled to Miami or something. When the girls that are left are afraid of the police, its not a good situation for us.Thanks to you boots on the ground guys for recent LA habana info. Sounds like big changes since April when I was last there. I am on a wait list for the once a week flite from Santo Domingo to Santiago de Cuba, anybody hearing if this is just a LA habana issue or is it happening in the eastern provinces also?
Thanks to you boots on the ground guys for recent LA habana info. Sounds like big changes since April when I was last there. I am on a wait list for the once a week flite from Santo Domingo to Santiago de Cuba, anybody hearing if this is just a LA habana issue or is it happening in the eastern provinces also?Hello gents. Apology to cut in the middle of the conversation.
I have a plan to visit Cuba for a few days in Feb. I did a bit of homework about Cuban mongering, and now I understand that basically you pick a chica on the street and take them to your "casa", which is a private room you rent from the owner. I understand it's because the hotels usually don't welcome the guests to bring chicas. Now, I still have a dummy question. I found some websites for booking casa, which seems more like vacation rental of penthouse or fancy condos: http://havanacasaparticular.com/ I was wondering if we can bring chicas to these casas, or if they're actually different from the "casas" generally mentioned here. I guess what really matters the most is if the building has concierge / doorman or not, which is usually a main blocker for bringing chicas, correct? Or would there be other factors I should be reminded?
Also reading through some recent posts, it seems the situation is changing in Havana. It's pretty sad to hear before I even get there. But now I have exactly the same question with Bart1.
Hello gents. Apology to cut in the middle of the conversation.
I have a plan to visit Cuba for a few days in Feb. I did a bit of homework about Cuban mongering, and now I understand that basically you pick a chica on the street and take them to your "casa", which is a private room you rent from the owner. I understand it's because the hotels usually don't welcome the guests to bring chicas. Now, I still have a dummy question. I found some websites for booking casa, which seems more like vacation rental of penthouse or fancy condos: http://havanacasaparticular.com/ I was wondering if we can bring chicas to these casas, or if they're actually different from the "casas" generally mentioned here. I guess what really matters the most is if the building has concierge / doorman or not, which is usually a main blocker for bringing chicas, correct? Or would there be other factors I should be reminded?
Also reading through some recent posts, it seems the situation is changing in Havana. It's pretty sad to hear before I even get there. But now I have exactly the same question with Bart1.Book a hotel thru a booking site for 1 night, in el centro, $40 and up on the Prado, check out Cuba-junky website for casa listings and walk around to check them out. I bet there is 50 or more between Prado and Galiano within ,4 blocks of the malecon. I have stayed at 5 or more in that area and all chica friendly, but some you may have to parade thru the living room, kitchen, dining room meeting all 3 generations, so do your checking first. There are 3 hotels in that area at $40 a nite that you can take a chica at night, but the doorman all charge 10 cuc and the chica has to leave by 6am, it is 6 am at all 3, I think it must be a shift change. PM me for the names of 2 of the hotels that I have taken chicas to from early evening to 6am.
Thank you so much for the tips! Sorry, I can't PM you due to my free account, but your instruction is clear enough (thanks! I'll just enjoy the adventure of looking for a casa myself!
Book a hotel thru a booking site for 1 night, in el centro, $40 and up on the Prado, check out Cuba-junky website for casa listings and walk around to check them out. I bet there is 50 or more between Prado and Galiano within ,4 blocks of the malecon. I have stayed at 5 or more in that area and all chica friendly, but some you may have to parade thru the living room, kitchen, dining room meeting all 3 generations, so do your checking first. There are 3 hotels in that area at $40 a nite that you can take a chica at night, but the doorman all charge 10 cuc and the chica has to leave by 6am, it is 6 am at all 3, I think it must be a shift change. PM me for the names of 2 of the hotels that I have taken chicas to from early evening to 6am.
Hello Gents,
I drop off my partner and head to Las Piedras. God bless this forum because Las Piedras was bumping at 230 am And the talent was great. I pulled a few more numbers and danced with a few chicas but was feeling nauseated near the end (probably one too many drinks) and decided not to risk a bad performance. I bailed at 4 am and this party was still jumping off.
TrisnateHeck yeah, Piedras on Friday night is the place to go. I don't think its hopping like that on any other night.
I would also agree with chicas moving away. One of my favs just relocated to Vegas via Houston. If any of you boys live in Houston, check out Michaels International club. Its seriously like hanging out in Havana. So many good looking Cubanas.
Cheers!
I emailed a chica I have known for 2 years and have been with on 3 trips to Havana about problems I read recently here. She replied today and said no problem if you tell police chica is your fiance. She is one of only 2 chicas I have known who would walk on the main streets with me in el centro and viego Havana. She always told me remember my birthday and my mother and father name because that is what the police will ask you to confirm she is your fiance.
I emailed a chica I have known for 2 years and have been with on 3 trips to Havana about problems I read recently here. She replied today and said no problem if you tell police chica is your fiance. She is one of only 2 chicas I have known who would walk on the main streets with me in el centro and viego Havana. She always told me remember my birthday and my mother and father name because that is what the police will ask you to confirm she is your fiance.It's generally only a problem for a girl to be controlled with a foreigner if she's from out of town or already registered with too many other tourists from prior controls.
Tank Not Mt
12-01-15, 21:39
It's generally only a problem for a girl to be controlled with a foreigner if she's from out of town or already registered with too many other tourists from prior controls.Bang on El Grande (sic). Just got back form a week in paradise in Havana. Had the most 'beautiful' chica yet. Had her the whole week as she was not the typical 'club girl' with all the shit and moods they have. If the chica has been picked up before by the cops she will get an official warning paper and if caught the second time it will cost her $$ or she may see some type of detention. Not worth it usually. Also if she's out of town she will need to explain why she was found with a foreigner and what she's doing there.
Also, when we were there we heard that a lot of the chicas who tried to escape through Ecuador were denied access to neighbouring countries as well as not being welcome there. As they didn't want to come back to face the gauntlet in Cuba they were stuck in limbo. Apparently, I heard there were riots in Ecuador made up of frustrated Cubans.
On the bright side there were many chicas walking the streets especially in the Old Town and near the Havana Libre. Good time to meet them was from 4-6 pm but anytime was good.
I emailed a chica I have known for 2 years and have been with on 3 trips to Havana about problems I read recently here. She replied today and said no problem if you tell police chica is your fiance. She is one of only 2 chicas I have known who would walk on the main streets with me in el centro and viego Havana. She always told me remember my birthday and my mother and father name because that is what the police will ask you to confirm she is your fiance.Of course that is a old trick that may work (the police of course know about this trick, they are not stupid). However that doesnt explain why normal packed places with chicas are almost empty now. Streets, beaches, normal hangouts etc. Maybe your chica didn't notice this as much. It is because many have fled the country and those who are left are afraid. Before it was no problem for Havana chicas in Havana, now the police take them also. I am not saying its impossible, Havana is still worth a visit. But there have been some changes the last year. Specially after the summer.
Also, when we were there we heard that a lot of the chicas who tried to escape through Ecuador were denied access to neighbouring countries as well as not being welcome there. As they didn't want to come back to face the gauntlet in Cuba they were stuck in limbo. Apparently, I heard there were riots in Ecuador made up of frustrated Cubans.
Thanks, Tank!
The issue is less Ecuador than Nicaragua. Nicaragua closed its borderd for Cubans and even revoked issued visas without refunding the tickets many already bought. Many Cubans are camping in front of the embassy in Havana and they say hundreds are waiting in Costa Rica at the border of Nicaragua to enter the country on their way north. The issue is that the South American countries worry that the Cubans will lose the current right to stay in the US under the Cuban Adjustment Act soon because of the mew relationship between the US & Cuba.
Sad but true, if the way through South America is blocked there will be more balseros (fugitives on rafts).
These "changes" have been going on for years now. The "crackdowns" started around 2000. The natives fleeing Cuba started 60+ years ago. But, I was just in Havana the last 10 days of November and IMO it was as good as I've seen it since the 90's. My time in Havana was followed by a week in Medellin and IMO the quality I ran into in Havana was easily superior (and that says a lot). Beautiful tall, thin, shapely Mulattas. Not a one with silicone tits or ass.
Yeah if you're searching on la Rampa, many of the chicas will be petrified of the police. However, go a few blocks away, and they will be much more friendly. Get a casa particular in Centro Habana and you'll have no trouble with chicas talking to you.
Admittedly, Cuba is not for the point-and-click monger. Those folks will be better off in Colombia, the DR, etc. However, IMO, Cuba still is a worthwhile monger/travel destination.
Thank you so much for the tips! Sorry, I can't PM you due to my free account, but your instruction is clear enough (thanks! I'll just enjoy the adventure of looking for a casa myself!Don't be sorry spend the 20 $! I'm just saying.
Because my casa particular is not chica friendly, am I done for? What strategy would you use?
Because my casa particular is not chica friendly, am I done for? What strategy would you use?Hey NZS,
If you are stuck with your casa already just rent a room nearby for any action when you need it.
Here is what you do, first off, unless you have someone's recommend a place, google "casa particular" there are tons of sites which you can explore at your leisure.
I am putting a link from one of those, not necessarily recommending it just so you can get familiar with sites that rent.
If you browse to some of these sites usually they'll specify "guest friendly" meaning you can bring a "friend" with you. Some of these casas will ask your friend for ID, others don't.
One caveat, some of the casas will overbook so be aware and have a backup just in case.
Hope this helps and report back once you get back home.
Mondo
http://www.havanacasaparticular.com/properties_details.asp?id_hotel=561
SirMarjAlot
12-12-15, 11:10
Because my casa particular is not chica friendly, am I done for? What strategy would you use?Most chicas I not take back to my casa in Vedado. I find most chicas on the streets around Centro and all along the Malecon.
They will take you to a short time casa, usual cost is 10 CUC. Most girls around centro area can be had for 30 CUC.
Problem is you don't know what state the casa is in until you arrive. Some were really cool, others not so. You don't have control.
Some had en-suite shower which you want. Others not, some had clean linen, others not.
I had some great experiences around centro. Especially fucking two sisters doggy on the bed and only using one condom.
Advantage of not taking them back to your casa is don't know were you live and can't steal anything.
I took one chica back to my casa from La Rampa in Vedado, After she had left I had no more electric shaver.
Because my casa particular is not chica friendly, am I done for? What strategy would you use?Like others wrote, finding another casa is super easy. Walk two blocks you will see one another willing to take you in.
You need to think about why your casa owner is not allowing you to take the chica in. Being with a chica is not illegal, not socially taboo in Cuba, so why? Well, some of them don't want to be seen as catering to mongers. That is a minority. Is there another reason? Is the chica you are taking has ID, did she steal anything from another guy stayed in the casa, did she have a fight with casa owners, does she get drunk and make a scene while leaving, is she hanging out with trouble characters, did policia came to the casa and asked about this chica before, is your casa owner getting a cut from chicas and this one is not going to give them, is she a negra (once a casa lady asked me not to bring in negras, every time I would bring in, her face will be fixed to the tv, would not even look at us).
To me casa owners are there to secure you from chicas and general trouble, they can also be greedy and will do anything to get into your wallet. So, pay attention to their actions, it would be worth it.
Rebel Monger
12-15-15, 10:20
...I also have noticed girls vanishing and thought, what is going on in Havana? One girl went to China for contract work and my other
two favoritas have married German guys and now live in Germany. I always said once the Americans come that they will be snatching these girls up for wives and
moving them to the States so maybe the Euro guys are jumping the gun before the race starts.Cuban women (jineteras) have been marrying (old) European dudes since tourism was open "full force" in the 90's.
Why would an American go to Cuba to find a "Cubana" when there are plenty of them in South Florida?
By the way, I wish "mucho" luck to anyone bringing a Cubana home, unless the person has plenty of money to keep her satisfied and allow her to go see "primo" Yosvel from time to time, she would drop him like a hot potato in no time. You can be sure that she has an "ex-primo" around who would take her back.
Cuban women (jineteras) have been marrying (old) European dudes since tourism was open "full force" in the 90's.
Why would an American go to Cuba to find a "Cubana" when there are plenty of them in South Florida?
By the way, I wish "mucho" luck to anyone bringing a Cubana home, unless the person has plenty of money to keep her satisfied and allow her to go see "primo" Yosvel from time to time, she would drop him like a hot potato in no time. You can be sure that she has an "ex-primo" around who would take her back.Welcome back Rebel Monger haven't seen a post from you in years. I live in South Florida and I don't even speak to Cuban girls here-they are too arrogant. I learned a long time ago from other peoples failures that it is not a good idea to move any foreign girl to America for marriage. Its best to move / visit their country and enjoy the fruit there. Good to see you are doing okay.
Happy Holidays.
MileHigh303
12-15-15, 18:06
Welcome back Rebel Monger haven't seen a post from you in years. I live in South Florida and I don't even speak to Cuban girls here-they are too arrogant. I learned a long time ago from other peoples failures that it is not a good idea to move any foreign girl to America for marriage. Its best to move / visit their country and enjoy the fruit there. Good to see you are doing okay.
Happy Holidays.This guy is so right. That should be one of the rules we follow.
SirMarjAlot
12-17-15, 08:56
They are really hot. Son muy calentes.Thanks, had another similar experience in centro a few days later with another two girls and then turned down another two.
I would add a further point about having your own casa, they come into their own if you are more a monger who likes going to the late night venues, meeting a chica, then jumping in a taxi and taking her back to your apartment.
The chicas in the clubs are more expensive, better looking on average, they will often start with at $100 but will drop to $60. Back in your casa you are in control, just lock away your valuables.
I met this chica at the infamous Johnnys now called Rio on a Monday night. She had her hand down my pants stood at the bar. Back in the apartment she gave me fantastic blowjob with CIM for $60.
You have to factor in taxi costs too. The girls will call their own driver and this will set you back another $10.
A night out clubbing in Havana and taking a chica, you won't have any change out of $100 minimum.
Thanks, had another similar experience in centro a few days later with another two girls and then turned down another two.
I would add a further point about having your own casa, they come into their own if you are more a monger who likes going to the late night venues, meeting a chica, then jumping in a taxi and taking her back to your apartment.
The chicas in the clubs are more expensive, better looking on average, they will often start with at $100 but will drop to $60. Back in your casa you are in control, just lock away your valuables.
I met this chica at the infamous Johnnys now called Rio on a Monday night. She had her hand down my pants stood at the bar. Back in the apartment she gave me fantastic blowjob with CIM for $60.
You have to factor in taxi costs too. The girls will call their own driver and this will set you back another $10.
A night out clubbing in Havana and taking a chica, you won't have any change out of $100 minimum.Looks hot too. Must have done a good job too.
A few questions.
1. can you rent a car at the airport for 4 days? I remember we rented one and it had to be a week rental and was not at the airport.
2. can you get local SIM card with internet?
3. why nobody mentions renting from AirBnb? There seem to be quite a few choices on Airbnb.
4. are non-US debit cards working in Cuba or is better to bring USD? (I am talking about EU, non-US issued cards). Are you getting bad rate doing cash withdrawals though?
Thanks in advance.
1. can you rent a car at the airport for 4 days? I remember we rented one and it had to be a week rental and was not at the airport.
I have rented from Rex a while back for two days. Send them email, they were very responsive.
3. why nobody mentions renting from AirBnb? There seem to be quite a few choices on Airbnb.
Going to AirBnb is like using a dating site while Cuba, sort of. Once there you can check casas, talk to the owners, get a feel for the neighbourhood, close by food option etc.
4. are non-US debit cards working in Cuba or is better to bring USD? (I am talking about EU, non-US issued cards). Are you getting bad rate doing cash withdrawals though?
Non US Visa works.
Going to AirBnb is like using a dating site while Cuba, sort of. Once there you can check casas, talk to the owners, get a feel for the neighbourhood, close by food option etc.
Thanks for the info Taboc, much appreciated it. As far as AirBnb there are reviews and I normally rent on AirBnb worldwide with little issues. In Cuba in particular I am considering it because you get the whole place to yourself (they say total privacy, I read that bring girls as you wish) or is it a different story in Cuba? My understanding with casa particulares don't you share one with the owners? Last time I went the lady owner was really nice I'll give her that but know knows what kind of owner you will get.
In Cuba in particular I am considering it because you get the whole place to yourself (they say total privacy, I read that bring girls as you wish) or is it a different story in Cuba? I used AirBnB in Europe, and it was a good experience. Yet to use them in Cuba, so don't have enough knowledge to comment.
You can easily get a casa like it is your own apartment with keys mostly in Miramar and Vedado as there are units built as independent ones. Other places may not give you 100% privacy as even the private casa might be a first floor where the owners live on the ground level, or you walk thru the owners hallway to reach your private room. In places like Santa Clara, Sancti Spiritus, Ciego you are going to mostly get the later type. You might want to avoid them if you want total privacy, so make sure AirBnB offers a way to check with the owners beforehand. I on the other hand like the casa owners around, as they offer an interesting amistad.
On a personal level, I like the cuban system that is why I go there. Yes, chicas are great, but lets be honest, you can find great chicas in other places and can get bad ones in Cuba too. I keep going back as I would like to support them in a small way I could, This year I had 5 trips and will be there for newyears. Going to AirBnB, I think may not be supporting the common folks there on the ground 100%. I would rather pay 5 cuc to a local guy who would walk miles around to find a nice casa, and who knows he would help me find a chica too. Few weeks back one of such guys took me to a boxing gym, and had a great time there. Even I could put on the gloves and get some training, and it was fun. So, I prefer dealing with locals than any online system in Cuba only to support them and the system there.
I'm heading to La Habana in February and am looking for a casa that is friendly to guests, preferably one that already has regular guests in mind. I've been to Cuba many times but have never partaken of the delights. When I go out, I'll be choosing more affluent options, like galleries, shows, and dinners. Any feedback or tips are appreciated. I stayed near Hotel Presidente this last trip, but wasn't impressed. I'm familiar with most areas of the city, but am new to finding my long lost love.
I used AirBnB in Europe, and it was a good experience. Yet to use them in Cuba, so don't have enough knowledge to comment.
I would rather pay 5 cuc to a local guy who would walk miles around to find a nice casa, and who knows he would help me find a chica too. Few weeks back one of such guys took me to a boxing gym, and had a great time there. Even I could put on the gloves and get some training, and it was fun. So, I prefer dealing with locals than any online system in Cuba only to support them and the system there.Sure Taboc it makes sense the thing is we are only going for 4 days so might not be worth spending time searching for a place on foot with luggage, and also keep in mind airbnb offers insurance to both parties. Reason I asked thought maybe one cannot rent from airbnb if coming from US.
Sure Taboc it makes sense the thing is we are only going for 4 days so might not be worth spending time searching for a place on foot with luggage, and also keep in mind airbnb offers insurance to both parties. Reason I asked thought maybe one cannot rent from airbnb if coming from US.I was reluctant to reply because I wrote about using Airnb a few pages back. Airnb is an American business and has to follow American rules regarding Cuba or face a hefty fine. I know several people who backed away from using Airnb for Cuba lodging because Airnb requested their authorization papers. American businesses will not challenge Uncle Sam.
Rebel Monger
01-23-16, 02:39
Welcome back Rebel Monger haven't seen a post from you in years. I live in South Florida and I don't even speak to Cuban girls here-they are too arrogant. I learned a long time ago from other peoples failures that it is not a good idea to move any foreign girl to America for marriage. Its best to move / visit their country and enjoy the fruit there. Good to see you are doing okay.
Happy Holidays.Thank you Mr. Gogo. Lately my haunting grounds has been the Dominican Republic.
I understand what you say about the Cubanas when they move out of the island, suddenly they feel important but deep down they still need the money to send back to their family back home, mostly at the beginning because they have to give impression they are rich. Anyway, if you see one you like, talk to her and see how things go. Fear nobody!
As for the marriage thing, yes I know, it doesn't work when you import them and mostly it doesn't work when you marry them in their country. Why marry at all? If you need somebody to clean your house, just hire a good looking maid and I bet she will give you the "honey pot" too. Life in about having fun, not getting it complicated.
Thanks for the info Taboc, much appreciated it. As far as AirBnb there are reviews and I normally rent on AirBnb worldwide with little issues. In Cuba in particular I am considering it because you get the whole place to yourself (they say total privacy, I read that bring girls as you wish) or is it a different story in Cuba? My understanding with casa particulares don't you share one with the owners? Last time I went the lady owner was really nice I'll give her that but know knows what kind of owner you will get.In Cuba is the same as a Casa particular but they have a family member or friends in Miami that post their property in Airbnb I have stayed at a couple of houses that are in Airbnb in Matanzas and yes you get your own private room or somethings a studio type of apt but is always in the backyard or on top of the house where the family lives. Is never going to be a full house for your self. The only place that has that type of options is a Cuban run businesses call isla Azul you can find them in Varadero Guanavo playa Del este and other vacation spot do the island they have great prices and the house is 100% private ones you rent it they give you the keys and they won't go by it till the end of the rental.
Travel2040
02-12-16, 13:49
This was a little bit strange and a small coincidence for me? A girl or I will call her a friend since we have meet each other 4-5 times during my every trips to Cuba calling me suddenly and said that she had to escape to Equador because of problems in Havana. She didn't confirmed what the problem concerned. I have always suspected her to go with tourists because of her high living standard in Cuba. Always the newest iPhone, expensive clothes and she rent a very nice apartment in Vedado without to have a job in Cuba. 2 Years ago she also implanted silicone breasts that is not common to do in Cuba. After reading this forum and what have been mentioned about Equador I think things are starting to fall into a place and show the truth? But I'm little surprised that she hadn't going with a tourist to US, Canada or Europe?
This was a little bit strange and a small coincidence for me? A girl or I will call her a friend since we have meet each other 4-5 times during my every trips to Cuba calling me suddenly and said that she had to escape to Equador because of problems in Havana. She didn't confirmed what the problem concerned. I have always suspected her to go with tourists because of her high living standard in Cuba. Always the newest iPhone, expensive clothes and she rent a very nice apartment in Vedado without to have a job in Cuba. 2 Years ago she also implanted silicone breasts that is not common to do in Cuba. After reading this forum and what have been mentioned about Equador I think things are starting to fall into a place and show the truth? But I'm little surprised that she hadn't going with a tourist to US, Canada or Europe?Cubans can fly to Ecuador without a visa, not sure but I think the only country possible, they then travel overland thru Colombia enroute to the USA. Have you not seen or read the news about the Cubans stranded in Costa Rica because Nicaragua won't let them enter. Nics are friends with Raol. They doing this now because they are afraid Obomba will close the wet foot dry foot policy because of recent agreements with Raol. Above info courtesy of a Canuck in Colombia.
This was a little bit strange and a small coincidence for me? A girl or I will call her a friend since we have meet each other 4-5 times during my every trips to Cuba calling me suddenly and said that she had to escape to Equador because of problems in Havana. She didn't confirmed what the problem concerned. I have always suspected her to go with tourists because of her high living standard in Cuba. Always the newest iPhone, expensive clothes and she rent a very nice apartment in Vedado without to have a job in Cuba. 2 Years ago she also implanted silicone breasts that is not common to do in Cuba. After reading this forum and what have been mentioned about Equador I think things are starting to fall into a place and show the truth? But I'm little surprised that she hadn't going with a tourist to US, Canada or Europe?Hey T2040,
I'll give you my take on this.
There are approximately 6000 to 8000 Cubans stranded in Costa Rica since Nicaragua didn't allowed them to pass through their country on the way to the US.
What I hear is that the situation is becoming pretty difficult for a lot of them while they wait to be flown to Mexico and on to the border with the US.
There was an accord reached and Costa Rica agreed to fly them to Mexico since Nicaragua would not allowed them through their territory then the accord was reached to fly them to Mexico and then they would have to fend for themselves in order to get to the US border.
My guess is your "Cubana friend" is probably having a hard time since you mentioned she's used to the jinetera high life style in La Habana.
For those not familiar with this, for Cubans Ecuador didn't required a visa (that ended last month and now Cubans are required to obtain a visa to fly to Ecuador) so since the rapprochement between Cuba / US rumors started flying about the US halting the wet foot dry foot part of the CAA (Cuban Adjustment Act) which allows any Cuban who reaches the US territory to get a free pass as long as he / she claims being afraid for her / his life cause of the Castro government.
So, my guess again is your "friend" is having a rough time down in CR and that's why she call you.
Hope this helps.
Mondo
Travel2040
02-14-16, 08:45
Hey T2040,
I'll give you my take on this.
There are approximately 6000 to 8000 Cubans stranded in Costa Rica since Nicaragua didn't allowed them to pass through their country on the way to the US.
What I hear is that the situation is becoming pretty difficult for a lot of them while they wait to be flown to Mexico and on to the border with the US.
There was an accord reached and Costa Rica agreed to fly them to Mexico since Nicaragua would not allowed them through their territory then the accord was reached to fly them to Mexico and then they would have to fend for themselves in order to get to the US border.
My guess is your "Cubana friend" is probably having a hard time since you mentioned she's used to the jinetera high life style in La Habana.
For those not familiar with this, for Cubans Ecuador didn't required a visa (that ended last month and now Cubans are required to obtain a visa to fly to Ecuador) so since the rapprochement between Cuba / US rumors started flying about the US halting the wet foot dry foot part of the CAA (Cuban Adjustment Act) which allows any Cuban who reaches the US territory to get a free pass as long as he / she claims being afraid for her / his life cause of the Castro government.
So, my guess again is your "friend" is having a rough time down in CR and that's why she call you.
Hope this helps.
MondoThank you very much for an complementary answer about my question! I perceived her as desperate and she indirectly asked about the possibility of coming to Europe. She is a very beautiful girl and funny but at this time this is not applicable for me. I stand firmly enough on my rule that the best is to have the fun in Cuba! I think the living standard in Ecuador is nearly the same as in Cuba?
WaveCutter
02-15-16, 00:51
Guys,
Been a long time since I had a some adventure. My Spanish is ok. Good enough to get by. Spoken like a 9 year old. But good enough. Anyways.
Need a week. I've been to Sousa many times but am seriously considering a week in Havana. Anyone? Care to provide your ideas, comments, experiences? Tips tricks? Never been to Cuba.
Thank you very much for an complementary answer about my question! I perceived her as desperate and she indirectly asked about the possibility of coming to Europe. She is a very beautiful girl and funny but at this time this is not applicable for me. I stand firmly enough on my rule that the best is to have the fun in Cuba! I think the living standard in Ecuador is nearly the same as in Cuba?Hey T2040,
I've never been to Ecuador so can't comment on that.
Living standards vary and sometimes they are hard to compare. For instance in Cuba to buy a car its prohibitively expensive, not so much in Ecuador, the same goes for gasoline / petrol, it's less expensive in Ecuador.
Some things cost less in Cuba. I find that whenever I go visit I exchange about $50 CUC into CUP and I am able to buy some stuff dirt cheap.
So, it pays to know your way around the place you are visiting.
That's why I think your friend probably is having a hard time getting by in Ecuador (she is not a local).
I am enclosing the link below as to compare the two countries and you can have a better idea what things cost. Also remember that in Cuba both health care and education are free, don't know about Ecuador.
Mondo
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Ecuador&country2=Cuba
Travel2040
02-16-16, 01:05
Hey T2040,
I've never been to Ecuador so can't comment on that.
Living standards vary and sometimes they are hard to compare. For instance in Cuba to buy a car its prohibitively expensive, not so much in Ecuador, the same goes for gasoline / petrol, it's less expensive in Ecuador.
Some things cost less in Cuba. I find that whenever I go visit I exchange about $50 CUC into CUP and I am able to buy some stuff dirt cheap.
So, it pays to know your way around the place you are visiting.
That's why I think your friend probably is having a hard time getting by in Ecuador (she is not a local).
I am enclosing the link below as to compare the two countries and you can have a better idea what things cost. Also remember that in Cuba both health care and education are free, don't know about Ecuador.
Mondo
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Ecuador&country2=CubaI talk with her yesterday and it's easy to understand that she is not comfortable with the situation. She has still not told me the reason why she had to escape from Cuba. Probably she is trying to hide the truth? She is very beautiful and nearly 10 of 10 and therefore I don't understand why she hasn't found a man in US, Canada or Europe. I guess for her it's a big defeat to stay in Ecuador?
I talk with her yesterday and it's easy to understand that she is not comfortable with the situation. She has still not told me the reason why she had to escape from Cuba. Probably she is trying to hide the truth? She is very beautiful and nearly 10 of 10 and therefore I don't understand why she hasn't found a man in US, Canada or Europe. I guess for her it's a big defeat to stay in Ecuador?Hey T2040,
Well, lets see, your Cubana friend likes the high life style of living, right?
Then I don't think it's much of a stretch to think that she needs to "flee" Cuba for what she perceives as the good life she'll find once she makes it to Yuma land.
You see what happens to a lot of Cubans is this: they see us all (tourist) going over there and spending the kind of money that for most of us doesn't break the bank but for them it's a big deal, since they can't afford to travel and most stuff we take for granted and some figure the way to Nirvana is to come to the good old USA.
Also, a lot of Cubans that made it here once they save / borrow some money they go back and not all but some brag about having a car (something that for Cubans is prohibitively expensive) jewelry, latest fashions etc and some folks figure it's easy money to have all these things if they make it here.
What is never mentioned is the hard road ahead for most of them once they arrive here (USA) specially for the ones that have grown up on the island and nostalgia get to them in a big way.
BTW, most Cubans long to emigrate here more so than any other country, specially to Miami.
Hope this helps you understand your friends situation a bit better.
Mondo.
Travel2040
02-19-16, 07:17
Hey T2040,
Well, lets see, your Cubana friend likes the high life style of living, right?
Then I don't think it's much of a stretch to think that she needs to "flee" Cuba for what she perceives as the good life she'll find once she makes it to Yuma land.
You see what happens to a lot of Cubans is this: they see us all (tourist) going over there and spending the kind of money that for most of us doesn't break the bank but for them it's a big deal, since they can't afford to travel and most stuff we take for granted and some figure the way to Nirvana is to come to the good old USA.
Also, a lot of Cubans that made it here once they save / borrow some money they go back and not all but some brag about having a car (something that for Cubans is prohibitively expensive) jewelry, latest fashions etc and some folks figure it's easy money to have all these things if they make it here.
What is never mentioned is the hard road ahead for most of them once they arrive here (USA) specially for the ones that have grown up on the island and nostalgia get to them in a big way.
BTW, most Cubans long to emigrate here more so than any other country, specially to Miami.
Hope this helps you understand your friends situation a bit better.
Mondo.Thank you very much for a lot of important information. My Cuban friend just send me an email where she explained that she needed financial assistance to legal her papers in Ecuador. And the cost for this was 500 $ and she asked me to help her. I'm very skeptical to do this and I never transferred money from Europe to Cuba when she lived there. But I was always very kind with her when I visiting Cuba. What do you think about 500 $ to legalize papers in Ecuador? This reminds me a little bit of scam?
Thank you very much for a lot of important information. My Cuban friend just send me an email where she explained that she needed financial assistance to legal her papers in Ecuador. And the cost for this was 500 $ and she asked me to help her. I'm very skeptical to do this and I never transferred money from Europe to Cuba when she lived there. But I was always very kind with her when I visiting Cuba. What do you think about 500 $ to legalize papers in Ecuador? This reminds me a little bit of scam?I am assuming she has a Cuban passport as she flew Havana to Quito, Possibly she has decided to stay in Ecuador, therefore she needs money for living expenses, or if she was as travelling north into Colombia she could enter on her passport then $500 USD travel money for journey north to the frontera of the Rio Grande. Legalize documents not so sure.
Travel2040
02-20-16, 09:52
Hello guys!
Thanks for all help and answer! At the moment I'm having a great time in Gdansk. Many beautiful girls here and the price is very comfortable. I can say that Gdansk is strongly recommended! My Cuban friend when she stayed in Havana used the name Camilla. Her real name is Keyla. She had an apartment in Vedado and her favorite places were Casa De La Musica (Miramar) and El Tocororo! I upload some photos in case someone other here have some experience with her!
Hallo guys!
Do you know some girlfriendly Hotels in Havanna and in Vinales-valley? I search for Hotels, where I have not to pay a joiner fee and the wingman or reception, if I pay a double room.
Hello guys!
Thanks for all help and answer! At the moment I'm having a great time in Gdansk. Many beautiful girls here and the price is very comfortable. I can say that Gdansk is strongly recommended! My Cuban friend when she stayed in Havana used the name Camilla. Her real name is Keyla. She had an apartment in Vedado and her favorite places were Casa De La Musica (Miramar) and El Tocororo! I upload some photos in case someone other here have some experience with her!Hey T2040,
Just for your info the hangouts for your "friend" are notorious jineteras places in la Habana (Tocororo & Casa de la Musica), that's why I ventured to say she's probably one of them.
No disrespect to you just pointing out the obvious.
BTW, you are in Gdansk, are you kidding me or what? I went to the Weather channel and it's 37 degrees there today!
I think you need to take a plane and land in La Habana ASAP, LOL.
Mondo
Travel2040
02-21-16, 13:43
Camilla (Keyla) called me again and said the situation for her in Equador was very bad. She had to go to the hospital because of stress and that she decompensated. Now she needed more money and to legalize papers have changed to money to pay her rent, food, doctors and lawyers. I feel she is laying for me and it's not applicable for me to send her money. I was also a little bit surprised about how comfortable she was with how Western Union worked. And when I called her a man took the phone and was very curios and controlling like a boyfriend. Also when I called her once she stayed in Havana with unknown number (Skype) I heard a baby crying in the background and she was alone in the apartment! I think this girl is not honest and for me now she reminder me as a gold digger? I upload some for photoes in case other people know her!
Travel2040
02-21-16, 20:06
Hey T2040,
Just for your info the hangouts for your "friend" are notorious jineteras places in la Habana (Tocororo & Casa de la Musica), that's why I ventured to say she's probably one of them.
No disrespect to you just pointing out the obvious.
BTW, you are in Gdansk, are you kidding me or what? I went to the Weather channel and it's 37 degrees there today!
I think you need to take a plane and land in La Habana ASAP, LOL.
MondoHello!
Just now sitting in my hotel in Gdansk and relaxing! Had a GREAT weekend here! The place to go is Sopot a little bit outside from the centrum of Gdansk. In the summer time you also have very nice beaches here! I will probably go to Cuba or Thailand in March? I think this time I will prefer Thailand and Pattaya?
Of course I know the game in Havana LOL! Salon Rojo, Johnny's, Dos Gardenias, La Cecilia, El Gato Tuerto, Don Cangrejo, Casa De La Musica, Bolabana, Shangri La and El Tocororo are famous places for Jineteras LOL. In my last visit in Havana I liked Bolabana and Don Cangrejo. In Don Cangrejo I liked to feel the sea close and I liked the style of Bolabana! And of course both places have a lot of "hotties". But in Cuba the best way to meet normal girls are to go to normal places. Walking around on meeting points! You are probably more expert on Cuba than me? I have only 6 trips to the Island.
Camilla (Keyla) called me again and said the situation for her in Equador was very bad. She had to go to the hospital because of stress and that she decompensated. Now she needed more money and to legalize papers have changed to money to pay her rent, food, doctors and lawyers. I feel she is laying for me and it's not applicable for me to send her money. I was also a little bit surprised about how comfortable she was with how Western Union worked. And when I called her a man took the phone and was very curios and controlling like a boyfriend. Also when I called her once she stayed in Havana with unknown number (Skype) I heard a baby crying in the background and she was alone in the apartment! I think this girl is not honest and for me now she reminder me as a gold digger? I upload some for photoes in case other people know her!You are being PLAYED man. Time to give it up.
I am planning a trip to either and I need the same help as to which one first. Travel to Cuba will be open and I want to be there but I have a Friend & Guide in Sousa, but nothing in Havana.
I Like to Hear from Anyone about Everything.
Thanks!
Guys,
Been a long time since I had a some adventure. My Spanish is ok. Good enough to get by. Spoken like a 9 year old. But good enough. Anyways.
Need a week. I've been to Sousa many times but am seriously considering a week in Havana. Anyone? Care to provide your ideas, comments, experiences? Tips tricks? Never been to Cuba.
I am planning a trip to either and I need the same help as to which one first. Travel to Cuba will be open and I want to be there but I have a Friend & Guide in Sousa, but nothing in Havana.
I Like to Hear from Anyone about Everything.
Thanks!Hey Word up,
Never been to Souza, so can not help you there.
However I am experience as far as Cuba / Havana goes.
In case you make it this month I will be there for the whole month (March) so, if you decide to hit it let me know and will be able to help you out.
Mondo
Hello!
Just now sitting in my hotel in Gdansk and relaxing! Had a GREAT weekend here! The place to go is Sopot a little bit outside from the centrum of Gdansk. In the summer time you also have very nice beaches here! I will probably go to Cuba or Thailand in March? I think this time I will prefer Thailand and Pattaya?
Of course I know the game in Havana LOL! Salon Rojo, Johnny's, Dos Gardenias, La Cecilia, El Gato Tuerto, Don Cangrejo, Casa De La Musica, Bolabana, Shangri La and El Tocororo are famous places for Jineteras LOL. In my last visit in Havana I liked Bolabana and Don Cangrejo. In Don Cangrejo I liked to feel the sea close and I liked the style of Bolabana! And of course both places have a lot of "hotties". But in Cuba the best way to meet normal girls are to go to normal places. Walking around on meeting points! You are probably more expert on Cuba than me? I have only 6 trips to the Island.Hey T2040,
Man you are in Gdansk, Wow. I googled the place since I am not familiar with Europe and found it on the map.
Afterwards I went to the weather channel and found out the temp was 37 degrees (Fahrenheit) Are you kidding me or what?
You need to catch a plane and fly to La Habana, temp 82 (Fahrenheit) LOL.
Mondo
P.S. As far as your friend goes, you need to find a new one.
Travel2040
02-22-16, 17:29
You are being PLAYED man. Time to give it up.I always like to play the game when I don't lose money! In this game I guess the game will stop by itself when she understand that there is no money to get!
Travel2040
02-23-16, 11:04
Hey T2040,
Man you are in Gdansk, Wow. I googled the place since I am not familiar with Europe and found it on the map.
Afterwards I went to the weather channel and found out the temp was 37 degrees (Fahrenheit) Are you kidding me or what?
You need to catch a plane and fly to La Habana, temp 82 (Fahrenheit) LOL.
Mondo
P.S. As far as your friend goes, you need to find a new one.Hello my friend,
I live in Europe and cities as Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius, Odessa, Praha, Krakow, Gdansk, Hamburg and Amsterdam are very nice to visit for a weekend. In those cities you can have a lot of fun. Of course when I'm looking for sun in the winter season and want to spend 2-3 weeks Thailand, Brasil and Cuba is my main destination. I think I will be going to Thailand and Pattaya in March.
The Tall Man
02-23-16, 19:43
Hello my friend,
I live in Europe and cities as Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius, Odessa, Praha, Krakow, Gdansk, Hamburg and Amsterdam are very nice to visit for a weekend. In those cities you can have a lot of fun. Of course when I'm looking for sun in the winter season and want to spend 2-3 weeks Thailand, Brasil and Cuba is my main destination. I think I will be going to Thailand and Pattaya in March.Your a lucky man! It has been literally 15-20 year ago when I played in Eastern Europe. Because of many obligations I don't know if I could or would ever return. I enjoy Cuba, Brazil, Colombia, Mexico and hope to one day visit the far east.
The Tall Man.
Travel2040
02-23-16, 21:47
Your a lucky man! It has been literally 15-20 year ago when I played in Eastern Europe. Because of many obligations I don't know if I could or would ever return. I enjoy Cuba, Brazil, Colombia, Mexico and hope to one day visit the far east.
The Tall Man.Hello,
Odessa in Ukraine is probably the best place I have ever seen when it comes to beautiful girls. The average is very high. Kiev is also very good. Eastern Europe today is more modern and the development have gone very fast.
I am planning a trip to either and I need the same help as to which one first. Travel to Cuba will be open and I want to be there but I have a Friend & Guide in Sousa, but nothing in Havana.
I Like to Hear from Anyone about Everything.
Thanks!I cringe when I think of the 300 million Americans, including 100 million (?) horny dudes who want to see Cuba for the first time and what it is going to do to the country.
Remember guys, the rest of the world has been going there steady with no issues for decades.
Now with Obama about to throw out the rule book, each & every American man wants full info on the ins and outs of Cuba.
Fine, but how about I suggest you RTFF's, then ask intelligent questions?
Goldman007
02-29-16, 03:43
I am leaving for Havana on Feb 29, Air Transat 148, anyone want to meet? Post here. I will be traveling all cities.
Coco Des Iles
03-01-16, 01:18
I am leaving for Havana on Feb 29, Air Transat 148, anyone want to meet? Post here. I will be traveling all cities.Sorry I cannot join you but I might be back in Cuba in a few weeks. Will be nice to hear from you as it looks like you will be moving around. I know Playas Del Este, Varadero and Santiago but, like in my last post on Guanabo, things are changing quite fast and I still wonder what is the best city to go to these days to have fun and be safe. I am looking at Cienfuegos, but I get mixed information on how good is that destination at the present time.
The Rolling Stones will be performing a free concert in Havana on March 25th. This is monumental and I don't want to miss this historic event. I'm searching for flights right now!
The Rolling Stones will be performing a free concert in Havana on March 25th. This is monumental and I don't want to miss this historic event. I'm searching for flights right now!Let the hype begin, historic? American groups have been performing in Cuba for years from Gloria Estefan, Barry White even 50 cents but our govt never wanted us to know anything Cuba. Everything now will be sensationalized but I'm not buying in. I don't go to Cuba because an old rock and roll band finally decided to go, they should have already been there. I go to Cuba for the people and the culture.
One of my many great memories of Cuba was one night sitting on the malecon having a Cuba libre watching the ocean. There is a place where the Prada meets the malecon that has tables outside. The place was closing at 11 pm and one of the workers gave me a drink on the house and said they were closing but take my time. The workers started moving the tables inside as I sipped my Cuba libre. They put a Barry White CD in and we jammed. None of these workers could speak English but they knew every English word to Barry Whites song, it was priceless. They said that back in the days that the radio would pick up bootleg signals from Miami and their are and be soul stations. I doubt the Cubans even know or care who Mick Jagger is, but it will be hyped as an event that people will show up.
Let the hype begin, historic? American groups have been performing in Cuba for years from Gloria Estefan, Barry White even 50 cents but our govt never wanted us to know anything Cuba. Everything now will be sensationalized but I'm not buying in. I don't go to Cuba because an old rock and roll band finally decided to go, they should have already been there. I go to Cuba for the people and the culture.
One of my many great memories of Cuba was one night sitting on the malecon having a Cuba libre watching the ocean. There is a place where the Prada meets the malecon that has tables outside. The place was closing at 11 pm and one of the workers gave me a drink on the house and said they were closing but take my time. The workers started moving the tables inside as I sipped my Cuba libre. They put a Barry White CD in and we jammed. None of these workers could speak English but they knew every English word to Barry Whites song, it was priceless. They said that back in the days that the radio would pick up bootleg signals from Miami and their are and be soul stations. I doubt the Cubans even know or care who Mick Jagger is, but it will be hyped as an event that people will show up.I guarantee you plenty of Cubans know who the Stones are. Barry White was hardly the only non-Cuban artist whose music "slipped through. " Hell my last visit I heard a frickn BeeGees song in an eatery en Centro Habana. Mixed in with the Timba, Reggaeton, and Son, you will hear pop music, including that from the USA.
Having said that, I agree that it's not a reason to go to Cuba. If you want to see great bands in Cuba, why not see CUBAN bands like LOS Van Van, Alexander Abreu, Maykel Blanco, etc. You can see the Stones anywhere and they haven't done anything good in over 30 years anyway.
Coco Des Iles
03-05-16, 04:18
Even though he was born a year prior to Barry White, Mick Jagger is still alive! So time is not for nostalgia but rather to enjoy the reality of dramatic changes in Cuba these days. As a Canadian who have been traveling to the island since 1981, I applause President Obama determination to end an area.
Of disgraceful attitude towards a hard fighting, peaceful and courageous people. I applause the Rolling Stones to join the movement and to offer Cuban people a free concert.
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So maybe we should lease planes to go and see them and enjoy la fiesta!
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USA Airlines are looking to serve Cuba primarily from their large hub cities, with Havana being the most popular destination.
At least eight carriers submitted applications to the USA Department of Transportation Wednesday outlining what routes they would like to fly. The government will spend the next few months reviewing the requests and is expected to award the contested Havana routes this summer. Flights to smaller cities — if uncontested and lacking any contentious issues — could be approved much sooner.
Once routes are awarded, airlines will still need time to develop schedules and actually sell seats on the flights. And while the USA Government will set the routes, airlines will also need to apply to Cuba's civil aviation authority for a permit to operate in the country.
All flights operating between the two countries today are charters, but an agreement signed between the two nations last month allows for up to 110 additional flights — more than five times the current charter operations.
Only 20 of those flights can go to Havana, in addition to the current 10 to 15 charter flights a day. The rest would fly to other Cuban cities.
USA Tourists still won't legally be allowed to visit Cuba but the start of commercial flights will make it much easier for those who fall into one of the authorized travel categories. Charter flights are expensive, frequently chaotic and lack many of the traditional supports of commercial aviation such as online booking and 24-hour customer service.
Most of the planes proposed by USA Airlines would carry about 160 passengers.
Nearly 160,000 USA Leisure travelers flew to Cuba last year, along with hundreds of thousands of Cuban-Americans visiting family. Tourism is still barred, but the number of legal reasons to go to Cuba — from organizing professional meetings to distributing information to Cubans — has grown so large and is so loosely enforced that the distinction from tourism has blurred significantly.
American Airlines was the most-aggressive carrier in its approach, requesting more than half the possible slots to Havana plus service to five other, smaller Cuban cities. The airline has a large hub in Miami, home to the largest Cuban-American population.
In American's filing with the DOT, CEO Doug Parker wrote that his airline has been "the undisputed leader" in charter service, having done so since 1991.
The airline notes in its application that last year alone, it operated 1,084 Cuba charters while JetBlue Airways had 221 and Delta Air Lines had four.
Following Wednesday's route application deadline, airlines and the public have a chance to comment on the flights sought. That process will conclude by March 21.
The airlines won't get all of their requests, but below are the routes each carrier applied to fly:
— American is seeking 10 daily flights from Miami to Havana, one from Charlotte and one from Dallas as well as one weekly flight from both LOS Angeles and Chicago. From Miami, it is also looking for two daily flights to Santa Clara, Holguin and Varadero and daily service to Camaguey and Cienfuegos.
— Delta is seeking flights from Atlanta, New York, Miami and Orlando to Havana. All would be daily, except for Miami where Delta is seeking two daily flights.
— JetBlue is looking to serve Havana with four daily flights from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, two from Tampa, Florida, Orlando and New York and one daily flight from Boston and Newark, New Jersey. It also wants one daily flight from Fort Lauderdale to Camaguey, Holguin and Santa Clara.
— Southwest Airlines wants to fly to Havana with six daily flights from Fort Lauderdale, two from Tampa and one daily flight from Orlando. It also applied for daily flights from Fort Lauderdale to Varadero and one to Santa Clara.
— United Airlines is asking for daily flights between Newark, New Jersey, and Havana with two flights on Saturdays. It also wants Saturday-only flights from Chicago, Houston and Washington the. See.
— Alaska Airlines wants two daily flights from LOS Angeles to Havana.
— Frontier Airlines applied for one daily flight between Denver and Havana, three daily flights between Miami and Havana, one daily flight between Miami and Santiago, four weekly flights between Miami and Camaguey, three weekly flights between Miami and Santa Clara, one weekly flight between Chicago and Varadero and one weekly flight between Philadelphia and Varadero.
— Silver Airways, a Florida-based regional airline, wants to fly to Havana twice daily from West Palm Beach, once daily from Fort Myers and Fort Lauderdale, five times a week from Key West, and twice a week from Jacksonville. It also proposed to fly from Fort Lauderdale to nine other Cuban cities.
Coco Des Iles
03-05-16, 14:37
Concerning latest post, we invite all Americans to come to Canada and fly from most lager cities to Havana, Varardeo, Cienfuegos, Santa Clara, Camaguey, Holguin, Manazanillo, Santiago, CayoLargo. Cubana de aviacion, Air Canada, Sunwing, Air Transat and West Jet offers direct flights to these cities. Prices are very low. We never cut the bridges with Cuba, and we are proud we never did.
The Rolling Stones will be performing a free concert in Havana on March 25th. This is monumental and I don't want to miss this historic event. I'm searching for flights right now!Glad they play at Ciudad Deportiva. The last few free concerts were at plaza de la revolution. That's where my casa is near by. The whole neighborhood gets screened by police at least 2 weeks in advance. Always a pain for yumas to get chics home.
Concerning latest post, we invite all Americans to come to Canada and fly from most lager cities to Havana, Varardeo, Cienfuegos, Santa Clara, Camaguey, Holguin, Manazanillo, Santiago, CayoLargo. Cubana de aviacion, Air Canada, Sunwing, Air Transat and West Jet offers direct flights to these cities. Prices are very low. We never cut the bridges with Cuba, and we are proud we never did.Thank you for the invite my Canadian monger. However most places monger like to travel is south east and west. The Canadian option has always been there. So has free healthcare. But Canada is still too much of a hassle as far as time consuming. I've never even seen a connecting flight through there.
Thank you for the invite my Canadian monger. However most places monger like to travel is south east and west. The Canadian option has always been there. So has free healthcare. But Canada is still too much of a hassle as far as time consuming. I've never even seen a connecting flight through there.You don't "connect" per se, at least not on the same airline. Fly to Toronto or Montreal and from there take a charter like Sunwing. Quite easy if you live in the Midwest or East Coast.
In the Winter you are correct. It's probably better to fly South right away to reduce risk of either flight being delayed.
The mongering scene in Cuba has been dead for years.
The only remaining action will be the hard core girls who do business in the Havana discos.
These girls usually ask $100 for 90 minutes worth of work then they return back to their pimp boyfriend who's got a second client waiting for her.
The Tall Man
03-19-16, 18:52
The mongering scene in Cuba has been dead for years.
The only remaining action will be the hard core girls who do business in the Havana discos.
These girls usually ask $100 for 90 minutes worth of work then they return back to their pimp boyfriend who's got a second client waiting for her.True that. I spent 2 weeks in Havana and surrounding areas last August just to visit a place that has intrigued me for year. So been there and done that now back to South America.
The Tall Man.
Coco Des Iles
03-20-16, 04:47
True that. I spent 2 weeks in Havana and surrounding areas last August just to visit a place that has intrigued me for year. So been there and done that now back to South America.
The Tall Man.You must be kidding! South America better than Cuba! Maybe Dominican Republic, but South America? Please explain.
BlkPanther
03-20-16, 19:49
You must be kidding! South America better than Cuba! Maybe Dominican Republic, but South America? Please explain.Dude! Without going into a lengthy rant, I'll give you a hint. If you haven't explored South America yet, do yourself a favor and try it. I've been to Medellin, Colombia and Copacabana, Brazil so many times I'm almost a native South American. An apt rep in Medellin asked me why hadn't I moved there yet, and I didn't have a good answer. There are chicas of every shape, size and rating in these countries and no police screenings / hassles to spoil your fun. And don't forget Bogota, Co. And Argentina. I could go on but I'm sure there are fellow mongers that will agree. (Another hint: I'll be flying back to Brazil in four days!
Xkalibur80
03-20-16, 20:29
Dude! Without going into a lengthy rant, I'll give you a hint. If you haven't explored South America yet, do yourself a favor and try it. I've been to Medellin, Colombia and Copacabana, Brazil so many times I'm almost a native South American. An apt rep in Medellin asked me why hadn't I moved there yet, and I didn't have a good answer. There are chicas of every shape, size and rating in these countries and no police screenings / hassles to spoil your fun. And don't forget Bogota, Co. And Argentina. I could go on but I'm sure there are fellow mongers that will agree. (Another hint: I'll be flying back to Brazil in four days!Been to Havana a number of times and most recent was last August. I do have to agree that South America has surpassed Cuba. I would say Panama is where it is at if you want south American and to a degree, Central American / Caribbean diversity.
Planning a trip to Brazil come May.
BlkPanther
03-21-16, 02:48
Been to Havana a number of times and most recent was last August. I do have to agree that South America has surpassed Cuba. I would say Panama is where it is at if you want south American and to a degree, Central American / Caribbean diversity.
Planning a trip to Brazil come May.I agree with you on Central America and the Caribbean. I've traveled there also. The best thing that I've noticed about these places over Cuba is the lack of the two 'P's. No pimps and no Police bothering you.
Xkalibur80
03-21-16, 03:28
I agree with you on Central America and the Caribbean. I've traveled there also. The best thing that I've noticed about these places over Cuba is the lack of the two 'P's. No pimps and no Police bothering you.Second that! I will PM you about Brazil.
Coco Des Iles
03-21-16, 03:44
I agree with you on Central America and the Caribbean. I've traveled there also. The best thing that I've noticed about these places over Cuba is the lack of the two 'P's. No pimps and no Police bothering you.No doubt, I have to open my mind and investigate. As far as Panama is concerned I have good info that the country is getting invaded by Dominican girls. Is this true?
No doubt, I have to open my mind and investigate. As far as Panama is concerned I have good info that the country is getting invaded by Dominican girls. Is this true?And Cubanas!
Coco Des Iles
03-22-16, 00:36
And Cubanas!So what's the point going to Panama to find mostly Dominican and Cuban girls. They went there to make money so obviously prices will be higher than in there respective native countries! It looks like Colombia has much more to offer with local girls.
So what's the point going to Panama to find mostly Dominican and Cuban girls. They went there to make money so obviously prices will be higher than in there respective native countries! It looks like Colombia has much more to offer with local girls.Exactamente amigo. Plus they use the American dollar in Panama and everything is based on American prices. Any place that is already Americanized is not good for our hobby.
Hierophant
03-24-16, 06:24
I visited La Habana once in the past. I have to say comparing to service in Colombia, mongering in Habana is really a dead action. $90 for 2 HR, police all over the place.
I was planning to stop mongering by writing things down, so I can know how I spent (wasted) my time in the past. Writing blogs about Habana just reminded me the old days.
For those of you who is interested in visiting Havana after embargo fully lifts, below is my blog post on details about my past Habana trip (from my blog). It is written in Spanish but you can use Google translate or just briefly read the highlights.
https://chicamunda.wordpress.com/2016/03/24/cuba-la-habana-3/
Coco Des Iles
03-26-16, 23:47
I visited La Habana once in the past. I have to say comparing to service in Colombia, mongering in Habana is really a dead action. $90 for 2 HR, police all over the place.
I was planning to stop mongering by writing things down, so I can know how I spent (wasted) my time in the past. Writing blogs about Habana just reminded me the old days.
For those of you who is interested in visiting Havana after embargo fully lifts, below is my blog post on details about my past Habana trip (from my blog). It is written in Spanish but you can use Google translate or just briefly read the highlights.
https://chicamunda.wordpress.com/2016/03/24/cuba-la-habana-3/I read your blog on Cuba with much interest and having been in Santiago 5 years ago and 3 times in Varadero-Playas del Este in the last 14 months, I can say that I had very good experiences at very lower prices. Mind you I never tried to look for chicas in Havana itself so this could be the difference between our respective experiences. As I understand you speak fluent Spanish just like I do so I am surprised you did not get better and cheaper access to the chicas, even in Habana. Also it seems to me that the Police is a major factor in Havana compared to places like Playas del Este which includes Guanabo. But yes, it can be worst in Varadero where I landed and where I only stayed for a few days but was lucky enough to meet one 'jinetera' in my hotel and a friendly 'chulo' who provided me a hotty the day I left (this guy got caught afterwards and spent four months in jail!, now he is retired.) I can only compared Cuba to Dominican Republic where I have been many more times. Police is less of a problem, but girls are no cheaper than in Cuba and obviously don't offer the variety you get in Cuba. Now, Colombia seems to be another story.
I agree about the scene in Habana going way down hill. But, the scene in the smaller towns like Holguin are still amazing. I can't wait to see that town again. Amazing talent and incredible prices. Chicas start their bidding at $40 USD! I'll be there in 5 weeks!
BeersTerry
04-08-16, 03:03
Yes, it has gone way down hill. All those pretty Cubanas that used to be in Havana are now in MIami, Mexico and Italy.
You cannot go for the explicit purpose of mongering anymore or you will be disappointed. You have to have another reason to go and then monger as a side note.
Yes, it has gone way down hill. All those pretty Cubanas that used to be in Havana are now in MIami, Mexico and Italy.
You cannot go for the explicit purpose of mongering anymore or you will be disappointed. You have to have another reason to go and then monger as a side note.Hey BT,
Yes man right on. I just came back about 10 days ago and have to agree with you completely.
This post is mostly about a few things that I found while there not necessarily about picking up chicas since that was not the main reason that I went this time around.
Sorry, not much info about picking up chicas, in case you want to skip my post.
First, I spent about a month and rented a one bedroom apartment which I had rented on previous visits right on the Malecon (Calzada & N) about a block from the US embassy.
This time I went for my Cubano music fix, which I got to say got fulfilled totally and a couple other things. One was meeting a gal that my mom raised and had not seen in quite a long time.
We shared some memories with her and her family, she's now married and and has 2 daughters. I needed to find out what was going on since out of the blue a couple of years ago started receiving emails from her so wasn't sure what the deal was.
I'll share a couple of things that might be helpful to some of you. For me having a phone to make calls, send texts within Cuba is a priority, so I rented a Sim card from the owner's nephew for $2 daily.
The way I did it I had my lost friend's daughter living in Tampa got me a recarga for $20 which Etecsa has every other week and which gives you an extra $30 bonus.
It cost me $20+the rental ($2 a day) total $80 for the 30 days and at the end I still had about $8 left.
Now so you guys know I didn't use this to yap away just to make / receive necessary calls / texts which in my book is a necessity.
Bonus for me was being able to use my Motorola phone which I am familiar with.
Also, I've been reading about Verizon and Sprint getting access inside Cuba and roaming being available too. Can't help you on that since don't have info on costs etc.
Second about the Cuba music scene, I left a couple of days before the Stones got there, not my thing so didn't miss it although I would have gone to the concert had I been there.
My thing is Timba / Son and I got my fix big time. My first 4 days I went to the 1st Timba / Salsa fest in El Bosque with the best Cuban bands (every day 3 top tier bands!
After that I went to different venues including both Casa de la Musica, whenever a band that I dug played. I well say the matinees are better than the night shift (cheaper too).
My friends husband is a journalist and I got invited to a couple of gigs which in my opinion are the way to go if one has some contact to get invited to this sort of event since there are no Jineteras and one has a chance to meet a real Cubana who is not trying to hustle you.
Third, for me Habana is getting more expensive however I found one huge bargain if anyone is like me about digging music. It's the Jazz cafe across the street from the Melia Cohiba.
Fridays and Saturday nights they have two really good ensembles playing there and the cover cjharge is $10 CUC. Once you get a table you can have drinks for your $10 or a decent Cuban meal for the same $10.
Don't know about you guys but for me whenever I go here in L. A. To check someone at a jazz club it usually runs me around $70 with dinner included so for $10 I get both dinner and great jazz.
I really wasn't looking for chicas necessarily but kept my eyes open and would hang at hotel Colina in the afternoon to have a Cristal or two and window shop all the foot traffic going by.
Had a couple of gals sit next to me and ask me about wanting to have fun, got a cute one phone # and a couple of days later called to come over to my place and she asked me upfront for $60, lost interest and told her so.
One irony, after coming back I made a pit stop in Miami Beach where a buddy lives and spent about a week there. While there met a couple of Cubano hustlers who offered me Cubanas of any size / color / shape.
Why I mention this, well cause I think a lot of the Jineteras have been moving on to the mainland and now the Miami Cubanos that use to denigrate them when they were in Cuba are stuck with them in Miami / Dade, LOL.
Mondo.
Coco Des Iles
04-08-16, 21:44
Hey BT,
Yes man right on. I just came back about 10 days ago and have to agree with you completely.
This post is mostly about a few things that I found while there not necessarily about picking up chicas since that was not the main reason that I went this time around.
Sorry, not much info about picking up chicas, in case you want to skip my post.
First, I spent about ........ For me having a phone to make calls, send texts within Cuba is a priority, so I rented a Sim card from the owner's nephew for $2 daily.
The way I did it I had my lost friend's daughter living in Tampa got me a recarga for $20 which Etecsa has every other week and which gives you an extra $30 bonus.
It cost me $20+the rental ($2 a day) total $80 for the 30 days and at the end I still had about $8 left.........Very interesting report but, concerning the sim card from Etc, you can buy one one for 40 CUC which gives you your own phone number plus 10 CUC of calling time. I have to say that I don't know if no non Cuban can buy one as I put it in the name of my'girlfriend'.
Concerning the Cubans in Miami Beach, it will be interesting to know the price range, as to compare with the 'originals' back home!
BeersTerry
04-09-16, 03:39
Ya, I too love the music scene in Havana. Hate the weekends as it is always one of the Valdez brothers at La Zorra or Jazz Cafe. It would help if they changed their effing act once in a while.
Very interesting report but, concerning the sim card from Etc, you can buy one one for 40 CUC which gives you your own phone number plus 10 CUC of calling time. I have to say that I don't know if no non Cuban can buy one as I put it in the name of my'girlfriend'.
Concerning the Cubans in Miami Beach, it will be interesting to know the price range, as to compare with the 'originals' back home!Hey Coco,
I think Miami prices would be comparable to the going rate around south Florida maybe a bit higher since there's prob more dough in that area.
The Cubano hustler told me for a FOB Cubana would set me back $150 with a no clock watching rule in effect (maybe a selling point?) he showed me her pixs from FB and she'd be around an 8. 5.
As per the Sim card goes this will change soon here after since there is some competition coming with all the US providers getting on the island.
Mondo.
Ya, I too love the music scene in Havana. Hate the weekends as it is always one of the Valdez brothers at La Zorra or Jazz Cafe. It would help if they changed their effing act once in a while.Hey BT,
Don't know when you were in la Habana last but when I was there the group playing Fridays at Jazz cafe was call Havana Ensemble and if you go back and check out the annual Jazz fest in December they were all the rage.
The sax player "esta por arriba del nivel", Cesar Lopez, maybe next time you go make sure to check him out. Also, the other combo on Saturday night was almost as awesome.
BTW, I never made it to La Zorra why el Cuervo since as you know the loudness level (is over the top for me) and a couple of times I forgot my earplugs.
Mondo.
P.S. Here is a link for the Havana Ensemble playing Caravan, enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDHA__RGpQs&nohtml5=False
BeersTerry
04-09-16, 22:44
Yes, I saw that the Valdez's have been moved to Thursdays after monopolizing Friday and Saturday for years. All the same, they need to change their act (s) once in a while.
Seen Havana Ensemble around for years.
LifeIsABeach
04-09-16, 23:36
I think Miami prices would be comparable to the going rate around south Florida maybe a bit higher since there's prob more dough in that area.
The Cubano hustler told me for a FOB Cubana would set me back $150 with a no clock watching rule in effect (maybe a selling point?) he showed me her pixs from FB and she'd be around an 8. 5.
Mondo.Wow, prices have gone way up to from I was paying 10 years ago. $20.00 got me a choice of what ever woman I wanted, young single, married etc. All were available. I could either take her to her friend's house for a couple of dollars or back to my apartment. No clock watching nor a pimp involved.
Wow, prices have gone way up to from I was paying 10 years ago. $20.00 got me a choice of what ever woman I wanted, young single, married etc. All were available. I could either take her to her friend's house for a couple of dollars or back to my apartment. No clock watching nor a pimp involved.In Miami or in Havana?
Havana.
Just returned from a trip to Havana and let me say things are changing fast. I took the tourist charter with a direct flight from Mia-HAV for 379 and 75 for the visa. Obama has just relaxed the travel rules so you can now go solo and don't need to be part of a tourist group. Just self certify and keep an agenda and all your receipts. Customs asked no questions leaving and returning.
My first day in Havana was about hanging out and just checking out the vibe of the place with the new rules. Let me say it had an eerie feeling to it. My friends and girls had vanished. My spots in Vedado were thin, even on a Friday night. Where was everyone? Luckily I had a couple past Internet girls waiting on standby to kill the void for my first two days.
My next to last day I ran into the first girl I banged in Cuba almost three years ago. We sat on the malecon celebrating till 4 am with her two amigas. Later she would give me the scoop on everything: The cops had done a major sweep 3 days before Obama arrived and snatched people of the streets so everyone was still spooked. Also the girl told me that the new hustle is to marry for business. See a foreigner can't buy property or open a biz in Cuba unless they marry a Cuban. Of the three girls drinking with us that night on the malecon 1). Was married to a German guy who paid 36 k for a Casa in Havana vieja that they also rent out to tourist. 2) My girl had just returned from Italy where she had been married for a year. She still wore the big diamond ring he brought her and sported a new galaxy S6 phone. She said it was cold in Italy and she missed Cuba. The husband refused to open up a biz in Cuba so that blew her hustle. 3) The third girl was also married to a German guy but she was home for now awaiting his visit. Casas, restaurants, clothing shops are all the new things these girls are fronting for their foreign spouses. Also several girls have went to Miami to cash in on being the hot new Cuban in town. The streets were thin and the girls are on the move internationally with new phones and clothes to match. No more girls with one pair of shoes and no phone.
Cuba is still a must see for guys who haven't gone yet but for the seasoned Cuba veteran their might be a drop off in talent until you get reacquainted.
American business opportunities are opening up but with a current US election and the Castros still in control people are scared.
Wow, prices have gone way up to from I was paying 10 years ago. $20.00 got me a choice of what ever woman I wanted, young single, married etc. All were available. I could either take her to her friend's house for a couple of dollars or back to my apartment. No clock watching nor a pimp involved.Hey Life,
The price I mentioned were for the Miami area, don't know if you got that?
Cuba / Havana prices are much lower although they also been going up from the "good old days".
Still I would agree that to get the best bang for your buck you need to go outside la Habana.
Mondo.
LifeIsABeach
04-10-16, 06:43
In Miami or in Havana?I was talking about Havana as this is Cuba site.
The Tall Man
04-11-16, 02:50
Hey BT,
Yes man right on. I just came back about 10 days ago and have to agree with you completely.
This post is mostly about a few things that I found while there not necessarily about picking up chicas since that was not the main reason that I went this time around.
Sorry, not much info about picking up chicas, in case you want to skip my post.
First, I spent about a month and rented a one bedroom apartment which I had rented on previous visits right on the Malecon (Calzada & N) about a block from the US embassy.
This time I went for my Cubano music fix, which I got to say got fulfilled totally and a couple other things. One was meeting a gal that my mom raised and had not seen in quite a long time.
We shared some memories with her and her family, she's now married and and has 2 daughters. I needed to find out what was going on since out of the blue a couple of years ago started receiving emails from her so wasn't sure what the deal was.
I'll share a couple of things that might be helpful to some of you. For me having a phone to make calls, send texts within Cuba is a priority, so I rented a Sim card from the owner's nephew for $2 daily.
The way I did it I had my lost friend's daughter living in Tampa got me a recarga for $20 which Etecsa has every other week and which gives you an extra $30 bonus.
It cost me $20+the rental ($2 a day) total $80 for the 30 days and at the end I still had about $8 left.
Now so you guys know I didn't use this to yap away just to make / receive necessary calls / texts which in my book is a necessity.
Bonus for me was being able to use my Motorola phone which I am familiar with.
Also, I've been reading about Verizon and Sprint getting access inside Cuba and roaming being available too. Can't help you on that since don't have info on costs etc.
Second about the Cuba music scene, I left a couple of days before the Stones got there, not my thing so didn't miss it although I would have gone to the concert had I been there.
My thing is Timba / Son and I got my fix big time. My first 4 days I went to the 1st Timba / Salsa fest in El Bosque with the best Cuban bands (every day 3 top tier bands!
After that I went to different venues including both Casa de la Musica, whenever a band that I dug played. I well say the matinees are better than the night shift (cheaper too).
My friends husband is a journalist and I got invited to a couple of gigs which in my opinion are the way to go if one has some contact to get invited to this sort of event since there are no Jineteras and one has a chance to meet a real Cubana who is not trying to hustle you.
Third, for me Habana is getting more expensive however I found one huge bargain if anyone is like me about digging music. It's the Jazz cafe across the street from the Melia Cohiba.
Fridays and Saturday nights they have two really good ensembles playing there and the cover cjharge is $10 CUC. Once you get a table you can have drinks for your $10 or a decent Cuban meal for the same $10.
Don't know about you guys but for me whenever I go here in L. A. To check someone at a jazz club it usually runs me around $70 with dinner included so for $10 I get both dinner and great jazz.
I really wasn't looking for chicas necessarily but kept my eyes open and would hang at hotel Colina in the afternoon to have a Cristal or two and window shop all the foot traffic going by.
Had a couple of gals sit next to me and ask me about wanting to have fun, got a cute one phone # and a couple of days later called to come over to my place and she asked me upfront for $60, lost interest and told her so.
One irony, after coming back I made a pit stop in Miami Beach where a buddy lives and spent about a week there. While there met a couple of Cubano hustlers who offered me Cubanas of any size / color / shape.
Why I mention this, well cause I think a lot of the Jineteras have been moving on to the mainland and now the Miami Cubanos that use to denigrate them when they were in Cuba are stuck with them in Miami / Dade, LOL.
Mondo.Very interesting read. I spent 10 days in Havana last year in August just to finally experience it. Now with the lax travel rules and the higher prices I have many other places to visit before I am on the other side of the grass, LOL.
Thanks for sharing your opinions.
The Tall Man.
Hey fellow mongers.
I posted a bit about one of the combos that plays at the Jazz cafe usually on Fridays called Havana Ensemble.
Anyways, I was checking out one of my fave bands nowadays (El Niño why la Verdad) on YouTube and happened to run into the Ensemble's main guy, Cesar Lopez.
He got invited to play along with the band and did an incredible solo IMHO. In case you enjoy Timba music check it out below.
Mondo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54_OmxgLGg8
BeersTerry
04-17-16, 18:35
I have seen Cesar Lopez billed as Cesar Lopez, I guess without Havana Ensemble.
Waaaaaay back when, I have seen Havana Ensemble when they didn't have Cesar Lopez. They were, as my Cuban friend says, just "regular".
I have seen Cesar Lopez billed as Cesar Lopez, I guess without Havana Ensemble.
Waaaaaay back when, I have seen Havana Ensemble when they didn't have Cesar Lopez. They were, as my Cuban friend says, just "regular".Hey BT,
I beg to differ with your friend here. Cesar Lopez is one of the highest regarded players on his instrument, not by me, and if you do not believe me google his bio and you'll see his credits all the way back starting with Irakere and there after.
I'll drop this theme here since this thread is for chicas info mostly just thought I respond to your comment.
Mondo.
BeersTerry
04-18-16, 14:38
Mondo, I am not talking about Cesar Lopez. There was a time that Havana Ensemble was sin Cesar Lopez.
BeersTerry
04-18-16, 14:45
Regarding the Tall Man's comment on pricing. I still find Cuba to be well priced compared to much of latin America and elsewhere. For example, I have just booked for the Philippines, the pricing there is incredible for a third world country (USD$160) . If you commented on the shitty available food options in Cuba, then I would have nothing to say.
Cuba is not strictly shooting fish in a barrel type hobbying as in Sosua, Medellin, San Jose etc. Should you like shooting fish in a barrel, Cuba can prove difficult.....but not expensive
Regarding the Tall Man's comment on pricing. I still find Cuba to be well priced compared to much of latin America and elsewhere. For example, I have just booked for the Philippines, the pricing there is incredible for a third world country (USD$160) . If you commented on the shitty available food options in Cuba, then I would have nothing to say.
Cuba is not strictly shooting fish in a barrel type hobbying as in Sosua, Medellin, San Jose etc. Should you like shooting fish in a barrel, Cuba can prove difficult.....but not expensiveI was in the Philippines and the prices were nowhere near 160 usd unless they have doubled in two years. Cuba is still a bargain for pussy but you have to be plugged in which can take a newbie a couple days to make worthwhile connections. If all a newbie knows is " Casa de musica" or street walkers he will be paying the tourists prices.
BeersTerry
04-18-16, 20:14
Maybe my math is bad but 3500 php barfine plus 3000 php at 45 php to the USA Dollar gets you there. It gets cheaper when you go to Angeles though.
I will know for sure and report back in a few weeks.
Maybe my math is bad but 3500 php barfine plus 3000 php at 45 php to the USA Dollar gets you there. It gets cheaper when you go to Angeles though.
I will know for sure and report back in a few weeks.Yeah when I went it was 1000 bar fine and 1500-2500 for the girl. I actually went during a crackdown and the bar fine was waived at the bar and you paid the girl in the room because the bar owners were scared to collect during the cracks.
Mondo, I am not talking about Cesar Lopez. There was a time that Havana Ensemble was sin Cesar Lopez.Hey BT,
Man I was not aware of him not being with Havana Ensemble before, guess it makes sense.
On the other front you are right on about Cuba not being "like shooting fish in a barrel" anymore, it used to be in the good old days and that's what keeps a lot of old timers going back.
Don't think that time is ever coming back again.
I think my next trip I will schedule a lot of time out en las provincias (outside Habana) There might be a better percentage of non jineteras than in la capital.
Mondo.
We are in talks right now to buy a building in Havana and transform it into a small hotel. What are the best areas to open one in your opinion?
Could be interesting to all mongers as we will be chica friendly for sure.
We are in talks right now to buy a building in Havana and transform it into a small hotel. What are the best areas to open one in your opinion?
Could be interesting to all mongers as we will be chica friendly for sure.Hey Siriuscom,
Man that's great news, the 1st monger friendly hotel in La Habana, what more can one ask for.
As far as location for me it's either Vedado, Centro Habana or Habana Vieja.
Now these neighborhoods are expensive, I guess you already know this right? Then again las Playas del Este are also prime mongering areas.
Let us know and keep us posted when you will have the grand opening so maybe we can have a "mongers convention" to celebrate the event.
Mondo.
Hey Siriuscom,
Man that's great news, the 1st monger friendly hotel in La Habana, what more can one ask for.
As far as location for me it's either Vedado, Centro Habana or Habana Vieja.
Now these neighborhoods are expensive, I guess you already know this right? Then again las Playas del Este are also prime mongering areas.
Let us know and keep us posted when you will have the grand opening so maybe we can have a "mongers convention" to celebrate the event.
Mondo.Obviously that guy hasn't done his homework for someone making a major investment in Cuba. Most hotel in Cuba only allow Cubans who work there to enter. Girls have a hard time dodging the cops now so you really think Castro is going to let anyone set up a Chica friendly hotel to promote sex tourism? It's about tourist money and having anything they view as negative will conflict with that. It's a far fetched dream that some guy just threw out there but I'm not buying the posts pseudo business model.
Obviously that guy hasn't done his homework for someone making a major investment in Cuba. Most hotel in Cuba only allow Cubans who work there to enter. Girls have a hard time dodging the cops now so you really think Castro is going to let anyone set up a Chica friendly hotel to promote sex tourism? It's about tourist money and having anything they view as negative will conflict with that. It's a far fetched dream that some guy just threw out there but I'm not buying the posts pseudo business model.That was my thought. Prostitution is illegal in Cuba. Yes it's extremely common, but it's done on the sly, "in the shadows. " No way the authorities are going to permit this type of setup in Havana.
Obviously that guy hasn't done his homework for someone making a major investment in Cuba. Most hotel in Cuba only allow Cubans who work there to enter. Girls have a hard time dodging the cops now so you really think Castro is going to let anyone set up a Chica friendly hotel to promote sex tourism? It's about tourist money and having anything they view as negative will conflict with that. It's a far fetched dream that some guy just threw out there but I'm not buying the posts pseudo business model.Guys,
To be clear this will be a legit hotel and yes we did our homework, we have local partners down there that we work with. We are talking about an old mansion and transforming it into a 20 room hotel. Very low key.
I made the comment because obviously we are the ones hiring the people esp. Security and I can guarantee you that under my watch we won't allow the security guys to profit from letting in mongers and chicas. It isn't meant to be a hotel that focuses on prostitution at all, what I was saying is that since I am the owner I can prob hook some of you guys on here up and close our eyes when you come back with a local chick. That's all.
That was my thought. Prostitution is illegal in Cuba. Yes it's extremely common, but it's done on the sly, "in the shadows. " No way the authorities are going to permit this type of setup in Havana.Hey Combo & Mr G.
I just thought you guys might know better, this guy I'm sure is kidding, right?
Anybody that knows anything about Cuba realizes this sort of thing that Siriouscom asks about would never fly.
Then again having an imagination for something like that really gets a lot of mongers "thinking" about the possibilities, however far fetched as it might be.
Mondo.
Kalifornication
05-05-16, 17:21
Hey Combo & Mr G.
I just thought you guys might know better, this guy I'm sure is kidding, right?
Anybody that knows anything about Cuba realizes this sort of thing that Siriouscom asks about would never fly.
Then again having an imagination for something like that really gets a lot of mongers "thinking" about the possibilities, however far fetched as it might be.
Mondo.Prostitution is not illegal. Pimpinge is, houses of prostitution are, strip clubs and pornography are, . . A woman or man offering her or his body for cash is not.
BeersTerry
05-07-16, 16:22
Prostitution is not illegal? While I do not profess to know Cuban law, they do arrest women for prostitution all the time. I believe the going sentence is 5 years.
El Patron24
05-12-16, 00:37
After a recent trip, I am also sad to report back that the working women numbers have drastically lowered in recent months / year. If you take into consideration that over 100,000 Cubans have left the island in the last year, mainly in the age range of 18-38, it makes sense.
I ended up shacking up with a girl I met on the flight there most of the time. We went to the night club La Fabrica del Arte several times. It is a great meet up point. It has live music, dj, art galleries, ect. The drinks are just as cheap there as in other bars too. Get there early because by 10 pm on weekends there is a line. Lots of foreigners and artsy type Cubans.
I ended up booking an AirBnB right on the Malecon for $30 a night. Several working women would be right in the main area at Malecon / La Rampa. The groups in general hanging out there are very young, so you have to be careful.
NaughtyGarcon
05-15-16, 16:45
Hello gents,
This forum is primarily about sharing information. So I would like to start by stating that, though I have only just registered, I will share by PM with anyone who wants it information on my home city, London, should you be visiting and looking for fun.
I will travel to Cuba for the first time next weekend.
I have through the last twenty-odd pages of this thread, but I have not found an awful lot of information on places to have fun in Havana. (I note the last report, recommending La Fabrica., in Vedado, where I will be staying.).
So, I wanted to ask if some of the regulars would be kind enough to give me some pointers? Where's hot in May 2016?
I am looking for a place (s) where a lovely Cuban thing will rub my bare backside and suck my $% You know the drill. You love it as much as I do.
Is Casa de la Musica in Centro really the best bet?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you,
NG
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Hello gents,
This forum is primarily about sharing information. So I would like to start by stating that, though I have only just registered, I will share by PM with anyone who wants it information on my home city, London, should you be visiting and looking for fun.
I will travel to Cuba for the first time next weekend.
I have through the last twenty-odd pages of this thread, but I have not found an awful lot of information on places to have fun in Havana. (I note the last report, recommending La Fabrica., in Vedado, where I will be staying.).
So, I wanted to ask if some of the regulars would be kind enough to give me some pointers? Where's hot in May 2016?
I am looking for a place (s) where a lovely Cuban thing will rub my bare backside and suck my $% You know the drill. You love it as much as I do.
Is Casa de la Musica in Centro really the best bet?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you,
NG
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JacksonHey NG,
Since you said this would be your 1st trip to Havana / Cuba I think you would be better off having some veteran monger guide you.
Given that it probly would not happen I will comment on a couple of things for you.
First Casa de la Musica Galiano is hard core Jinetera hang out both inside and outside. Galiano all the way from the Casa to the Malecon is a Jinetera track mostly after early evening. So, if this is what you are looking for then go for it, if on the other hand you want to find a less hardcore Cubana then I would suggest you try talking your way by taking a taxi or a bicitaxi until you get some results that way, again you might have to do this several times until you hit pay dirt.
Remember what was said before in this forum la Habana is no longer the way it used to be back in the 90's or even early 2000's.
Hope this helps you out and remember when you come back to post a report to keep us up to date on activities there.
Mondo.
After a recent trip, I am also sad to report back that the working women numbers have drastically lowered in recent months / year. If you take into consideration that over 100,000 Cubans have left the island in the last year, mainly in the age range of 18-38, it makes sense.
I ended up shacking up with a girl I met on the flight there most of the time. We went to the night club La Fabrica del Arte several times. It is a great meet up point. It has live music, dj, art galleries, ect. The drinks are just as cheap there as in other bars too. Get there early because by 10 pm on weekends there is a line. Lots of foreigners and artsy type Cubans.
I ended up booking an AirBnB right on the Malecon for $30 a night. Several working women would be right in the main area at Malecon / La Rampa. The groups in general hanging out there are very young, so you have to be careful.Curious as to where you saw the 100,000 figure, seems a bit high.
Recent BBC documentary on Cubans flying to Ecuador then going overland, showing the transit by land on a map North thru Colombia into Panama, not possible most people die trying to cross the Darien Gap, there are no roads. Only transit is by boat from Colombia to Panama. No mention of this in documentary.
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El Patron24
05-18-16, 23:14
Curious as to where you saw the 100,000 figure, seems a bit high.USA Customs and Border Protection told Spanish News Agency EFE that between October 1, 2014, and September 30,2015, 43,159 Cubans arrived in the United States by land alone.
That number does not count several thousand that entered by sea. The last quarter of 2015 had an even higher number enter the US, which would make 2015 record breaking by far. Take that number and add it to the amount of Cubans in transit, or recently relocating to Colombia, Panama, Mexico, Ecuador, ect ect, then we are getting pretty close to 100,000.
Yes I may have overstated a bit, but there is no doubt in my mind that it is at least 75-80,000.
BeersTerry
05-24-16, 11:18
This is old news. All those Cubans in South America found a loophole in Ecuadors entry policy not requiring Cubans to have entry visas. All they needed to do was to purchase a plane ticket to Ecuador. Once the flood of Cubans came, they quickly closed that loophole. I thought the numbers were more in the 20 - 25,000 area. 100,000 seems high.
Most of those Cubans are displaced persons now and cannot get to America. They can't even get to Mexico as any country that requires entry visas will not let them in. Add to that Nicaragua who is friend to Cuba and will not allow any Cubans to transit the country thus they are stuck in Costa Rica and below.
I like these guys posting facts that get pulled out of thin air and cannot be substantiated
El Patron24
05-24-16, 20:22
This is old news. All those Cubans in South America found a loophole in Ecuadors entry policy not requiring Cubans to have entry visas. All they needed to do was to purchase a plane ticket to Ecuador. Once the flood of Cubans came, they quickly closed that loophole. I thought the numbers were more in the 20 - 25,000 area. 100,000 seems high.
Most of those Cubans are displaced persons now and cannot get to America. They can't even get to Mexico as any country that requires entry visas will not let them in. Add to that Nicaragua who is friend to Cuba and will not allow any Cubans to transit the country thus they are stuck in Costa Rica and below.
I like these guys posting facts that get pulled out of thin air and cannot be substantiatedFrom October 2015 to February 2016, more than 18,500 Cubans arrived at Texas' Laredo field office of USA Customs and Border Protection, which includes ports from Del Rio to Brownsville. This does not count other land border sectors, arrivals by sea, and those flying in on Visas (more than 20,000 issued every year legally) into US airports.
Since October 2015,3,500 Cubans have either landed by sea or have been apprehended by US authorities at sea.
Overall, 43,159 Cubans entered the USA Via ports of entry in fiscal year 2015 (NOTE- at ports of entry and fiscal year, not calendar year), according to USA Customs and Border Protection data obtained through a public records request. This represents a 78% increase over the previous year, when 24,278 Cubans entered.
(In summary, since the start of 2015, at least 61,659 Cubans entered the US by land without an authorized VISA, not counting the number at sea and the estimated 20,000 traveling on legal visas.).
US officials say that before the recent surge, more than 20,000 Cubans formally migrated to the US every year using visas (typically temporary tourist visas, where Cubans can simply fly into Miami and then simply do not return back to Cuba) issued by the US government. Adding in migrants who entered informally, US officials believe more than 50,000 Cubans were moving to the US every year (prior to the 2015-16 surge), leaving behind their homeland of 11 million people.
Many Cubans are also using an opportunity offered by Spain in 2008 when it allowed descendants of those exiled during the Spanish civil war to reclaim Spanish citizenship. A Spanish passport allows visa-free travel to the US, Europe and Latin America.
The number of Cubans holding a Spanish passport tripled between 2009 and 2011, when it hit 108,000. Many of those Cubans fly to Mexico or the US on their Spanish passports, then present their Cuban passports to US officials.
The flow has not stopped despite efforts from Central and South American nations. Now Cubans are having to pay human smugglers, instead of simply traveling freely as they were before.
Many of these Cubans are still in transit, as they have not reached the United States yet, or they simply are relocating to other Latin American nations. A large number are now flying to Guyana, in South America, as no Visa is required for travel.
If Cubans are able to reach Mexico they may be detained, but are almost always released and then able to reach the border and enter the USA freely.
Given the broader qualifications for repatriation spelled out in the Cuba-Mexico memorandum of 2016, the following question must be raised: why does the Mexican government release Cuban illegal aliens with a 20-day "safe passage permit," allowing them to then reach the USA Border, rather than return them to Cuba?
Mexican officials have explained that in most cases the Cuban authorities do not recognize their potential countrymen, or it takes too much time. Under Mexico's immigration law, Mexican authorities can only hold the Cuban aliens for 15 days, while they wait for Cuba to recognize their national.
This month Panama flew almost 4,000 Cubans to Ciudad Juarez so they could safely cross into the USA. Panama then ceased flights and said it will close its southern border with Colombia to Cubans. Despite the effort, the border initiative is enforced at legal ports near Colombia and by Panamanian immigration. Those traveling illegally are still moving north if they can travel undetected.
Central American nations are well known for having weak border security and it is possible to navigate all the way to Mexico undetected.
From October 2015 to February 2016, more than 18,500 Cubans arrived at Texas' Laredo field office of USA Customs and Border Protection, which includes ports from Del Rio to Brownsville. This does not count other land border sectors, arrivals by sea, and those flying in on Visas (more than 20,000 issued every year legally) into US airports.
Since October 2015,3,500 Cubans have either landed by sea or have been apprehended by US authorities at sea.
Overall, 43,159 Cubans entered the USA Via ports of entry in fiscal year 2015 (NOTE- at ports of entry and fiscal year, not calendar year), according to USA Customs and Border Protection data obtained through a public records request. This represents a 78% increase over the previous year, when 24,278 Cubans entered.
(In summary, since the start of 2015, at least 61,659 Cubans entered the US by land without an authorized VISA, not counting the number at sea and the estimated 20,000 traveling on legal visas.).
US officials say that before the recent surge, more than 20,000 Cubans formally migrated to the US every year using visas (typically temporary tourist visas, where Cubans can simply fly into Miami and then simply do not return back to Cuba) issued by the US government. Adding in migrants who entered informally, US officials believe more than 50,000 Cubans were moving to the US every year (prior to the 2015-16 surge), leaving behind their homeland of 11 million people.
Many Cubans are also using an opportunity offered by Spain in 2008 when it allowed descendants of those exiled during the Spanish civil war to reclaim Spanish citizenship. A Spanish passport allows visa-free travel to the US, Europe and Latin America.
The number of Cubans holding a Spanish passport tripled between 2009 and 2011, when it hit 108,000. Many of those Cubans fly to Mexico or the US on their Spanish passports, then present their Cuban passports to US officials.
The flow has not stopped despite efforts from Central and South American nations. Now Cubans are having to pay human smugglers, instead of simply traveling freely as they were before.
Many of these Cubans are still in transit, as they have not reached the United States yet, or they simply are relocating to other Latin American nations. A large number are now flying to Guyana, in South America, as no Visa is required for travel.
If Cubans are able to reach Mexico they may be detained, but are almost always released and then able to reach the border and enter the USA freely.
Given the broader qualifications for repatriation spelled out in the Cuba-Mexico memorandum of 2016, the following question must be raised: why does the Mexican government release Cuban illegal aliens with a 20-day "safe passage permit," allowing them to then reach the USA Border, rather than return them to Cuba?
Mexican officials have explained that in most cases the Cuban authorities do not recognize their potential countrymen, or it takes too much time. Under Mexico's immigration law, Mexican authorities can only hold the Cuban aliens for 15 days, while they wait for Cuba to recognize their national.
This month Panama flew almost 4,000 Cubans to Ciudad Juarez so they could safely cross into the USA. Panama then ceased flights and said it will close its southern border with Colombia to Cubans. Despite the effort, the border initiative is enforced at legal ports near Colombia and by Panamanian immigration. Those traveling illegally are still moving north if they can travel undetected.
Central American nations are well known for having weak border security and it is possible to navigate all the way to Mexico undetected.Looks like you done your homework, thanks for the info, very interesting.
Well gents, the fourth Cuba trip is in the books. Here are the details.
Flew from US to Cancun and walked to Cancun terminal 2 that houses Cubana airlines (Shuttle takes too long). Paid for the visa ($25 USD in pesos only) and also the airport tax (350 MX pesos) and was on my way.
Upon arrival I had difficulty getting my phone line active as the office was out of service. But more on that in my Holguin report. I used my very dependable taxi buddy and off we went to my apt. $25. Need a reliable taxi guy, let me know.
Well they paved the roads in Vedado! Obama, the pope, and Mick Jagger must have inspired that LOL.
Saturday night-With no phone, I decided to roll solo and catch up with my local friends on Sunday. I headed over to Gato Tuerta in Vedado. Love that bar. Great sound system with their live music and always some candy floating around. Hung there and then went to Turquino at Habana Libre. Silly hot dancers performing there but not much else. Decided to cab it over to Casa De Musica in El Centro. Saw a stunner (Lia) outside and nodded to her to come in. Eventually she did and we started dancing and talking, good vibe. She was a 19 year old mulata and had a silly firm body. She wanted the usual $100 and to be paid up front. I countered with $50 plus a tip for good service and I would not pay up front. She couldn't wrap her hooker brain around that concept so we were at a stalemate. But I couldn't have cared less so I took her number and said those powerful words we all should use more often "yo me voy". Outside the club I was approached by another cutie. She wanted $40 and I was interested. We were discussing the details when Lia came up to throw a wrench into my plans. F word. I left them both in tears (LOL) and stumbled off to the malecon. I met Maria on the malecon where she had waved me down. Wow, she was super cool. Or I was toasted at this point. She offered up $30 plus $5 for use of her place. I though I could possibly go down to the rocks of the malecon and get an even better offer of $15. Haha. Off Maria and I went to her place. We walked together and she didn't seem to care about police at all. But there generally aren't too many in that area. Service was good with her super soft skin. Someone must have given her a good razor as a regalo. Ha!
It was great to be back in Havana! Oh and that was my first service from the malecon. It definitely won't be my last.
Sunday night-Met up with local friends and we hit up a local place. I think it was called El Sauce. It was hopping for a Sunday night. Good Miramar crowd. A few cuties. The night went on but I ejected due to my flight to Holguin the following day.
Read my Holguin trip report on the other places section. That place is the lost promised land, IMHO.
Got back to Havana on Friday afternoon and called up Yeni. She was a cutie I met when I was in a bici taxi in October. I told the older bici taxi guy (despacio para las linda mujeres). Anyways, I hadn't hung out with Yeni until she came over this day. Rocking body, super sexy Cubana eyes. We had a few beers at my apartment around 6 pm and negotiated $60. Service was out of this world! She was what I call a trifecta. Down with any hole. She was even initiating the elusive back door. We had a great time together over two hours. I've always been a firm believer that you get better service in the afternoon and early evening vs 2 or 3 am. Anyways, gave her a nice tip and the only regalo I brought. She clearly won the trophy. LOL.
After time with her I headed out and my buddies and I ended up at The Up Down club. Top talent there but I noticed that almost all of them had the single mom thing going on. I think that might be one of the main differences in Havana these days. Those that could escape are the ones that don't have a Nino to take care of. Just my two cents. Anyways, Up Down was reminding me of a stuck up club in Vegas where nobody smiles. All the girls at Up Down just cling to their one beer all night and look like they are in pain.
After that place we headed to Terraza bar. It's more of a lounge, but still a cool place to have a drink. No working talent there though. I called it a night after that.
Saturday.
I had slept well so I hydrated and was up for some day drinking. I messaged Lia from my first night and she was up for meeting up for drinks and negotiating some plans. We met at Cafe Tilin on Italia. Close to Casa de Musica. We had three rounds of beers there and then walked down the Prado before stopping for sandwiches and another round. It was funny seeing the looks I was getting while we walked hand in hand. Haha. She mentioned the same thing. We eventually ended up at Sloppy Joes for a final round of drinks. She had a shot of tequila that I subsequently taught her how to down. Ha! After that we shared a bici taxi back toward her and my side of town. She was saying something I couldn't understand and she kept taking my ball cap. It dawned on me later that she wanted me to pay her for the time we had hung out. OK boys, let's hear your two cents on that! I called her out on it later that night on the phone and she confirmed that she was asking for that. I hung up on her after a few choice words and that was that. We can't let that crap creep into Havana, IMHO.
My buddy and I met up that night and went to Fabrica de Arte. Crowded and hot but plenty of eye candy (pro and non pro). We found the one place to sit under the air conditioner and relaxed for a bit. Be sure to get there before 9:30 or you will be waiting awhile to get in. After that we were at Up Down again. Don't ask me why. Same song and dance with the sad face crowd. I met a Cuba vet there. He had been coming to Havana since the early 90's. Needless to say, we hit it off immediately and began sharing stories. He and I decided to head over to las Piedras. I'm usually only a fan of that place on Fridays (heard Sunday's is good too). The place was hopping when we got there at 3! Service is terrible there though. I think the bartenders are missing a chromosome. Oh and the there is a nazi at the bathroom that insists you tip to use the one urinal that's functioning. The place is a mess but the girls there are very forward and that makes it a lot of fun. My new buddy and I were having a blast churning through the ladies and drinking. He found one he liked and offered $60 and she passed. We were shocked when she walked for that time of night. But we both knew she would be back and she eventually did. I wasn't in the mood as it was now 5 am and I couldn't see straight. LOL.
Sunday-Last full day for me. Slept most of the day as I was beat from the night before. Was supposed to meet up with Yeni again but she didn't text. Maybe her holes were still recovering LOL.
I cruised the Malecon around sunset after grabbing a bite and then made it down to El Centro and went further in. Was cruising through the "mall area" and saw Yazmin. Smoking body, and as most do, she asked what time it is. Of course 2. 5 seconds later she asked if I wanted company. LOL. We decided to go grab a beer. We went back into the labyrinth that makes up Havana and bought two beers from some guys room. After that we negotiated $20 for a BJ and $5 for the casa. I wasn't in the mood to put in the sex effort. Off we went into another labyrinth. It was a wild experience! She got naked and went to work. Great little worker and took everything like a champ. I was a happy customer. Bought her another beer and yo me voy.
I then met up with my buddy outside Floridita to say good bye and decided to walk the Malecon back. The talent on the malecon around 11 pm on Sunday was awesome! Definitely some good choices. I chatted with a few but I was on a budget now and was pretty tired from walking so much. It's amazing how little the Cubans sweat and the rest of us are dying LOL. I took a few numbers and then grabbed a bite and headed home. Hate being hungover on travel days.
On my last morning, the cleaning chica came in to clean my place. She arrived an hour early and let herself in. I thought that was a bit unusual. I went out to say Hello, and was eyes wide open when I saw how hot she was. I thought that this was surely a set up. I almost made an offer but didn't. Ugh. Lifes little regrets.
Other Havana notes.
-Day use of the Havana Libre hotel is $15 per person plus you have to spend $13 in food / drinks. Yeah that wouldn't be be hard to do. I think it would be a good day date thing to do in the future.
-The massage place mentioned in the forum is located on the second floor across from Havana Libre. Look for the neon sign. They have a sister office by Melia Cohiba. Price was $30. I didn't have the balls to ask if the massage chicas were hot so I passed. Oh and the guy told me that they also do out calls where they bring all their crap to your place. Price depends on how far they have to go. PM for email and phone info.
-I heard there is a great pool party at Hotel Chateau on Sunday's. Someone can check that out as I didn't have time.
-One chica told me that they aren't enforcing the Carnet policy anymore so girls from the outer cities are free to move to Havana. Just an FYI.
-With some great advice, I bought a permanent line for my cell phone and not a temporary one. Same price except now I can keep all my contacts in the phone and I can recharge online. Maybe I missed the memo on this subject but it's definitely the way to go.
-A part of me thinks that if I go again in the summer months that it's better to just stay at Havana Libre to enjoy the great AC, comfortable beds, pool, and Wifi. Plenty of dirt bag houses to use for short term fun. May also consider using Air be and be so I don't have to carry so much cash to pay for apartments.
-I should have brought more personal hand wipes. I'll bring razors and thongs for future regalos.
BeersTerry
05-28-16, 15:13
Sorry El Patron.
I just got off a plane from the Philippines and was mainly focused on the South America exodus and not all the Cubans crashing the gate in the USA.
I do understand that it had been higher than normal as the Cubans feared that with better relations, the USA Would revoke the special stautus afforded to Cuban refugees.
Cave Diver
06-10-16, 08:10
Well gents, the fourth Cuba trip is in the books. Here are the details.
Flew from US to Cancun and walked to Cancun terminal 2 that houses Cubana airlines (Shuttle takes too long). Paid for the visa ($25 USD in pesos only) and also the airport tax (350 MX pesos) and was on my way.
Upon arrival I had difficulty getting my phone line active as the office was out of service. But more on that in my Holguin report. I used my very dependable taxi buddy and off we went to my apt. $25. Need a reliable taxi guy, let me know.
Well they paved the roads in Vedado! Obama, the pope, and Mick Jagger must have inspired that LOL.
Saturday night-With no phone, I decided to roll solo and catch up with my local friends on Sunday. I headed over to Gato Tuerta in Vedado. Love that bar. Great sound system with their live music and always some candy floating around. Hung there and then went to Turquino at Habana Libre. Silly hot dancers performing there but not much else. Decided to cab it over to Casa De Musica in El Centro. Saw a stunner (Lia) outside and nodded to her to come in. Eventually she did and we started dancing and talking, good vibe. She was a 19 year old mulata and had a silly firm body. She wanted the usual $100 and to be paid up front. I countered with $50 plus a tip for good service and I would not pay up front. She couldn't wrap her hooker brain around that concept so we were at a stalemate. But I couldn't have cared less so I took her number and said those powerful words we all should use more often "yo me voy". Outside the club I was approached by another cutie. She wanted $40 and I was interested. We were discussing the details when Lia came up to throw a wrench into my plans. F word. I left them both in tears (LOL) and stumbled off to the malecon. I met Maria on the malecon where she had waved me down. Wow, she was super cool. Or I was toasted at this point. She offered up $30 plus $5 for use of her place. I though I could possibly go down to the rocks of the malecon and get an even better offer of $15. Haha..Sounds like Cuba can provide more GFE than other places in Latin America right now. Would you say that? I am travelling for 3 weeks in July and I am undecided about the destination. BBBJ is a must but too worried to try that in Sosua.
Just heard on news we can fly to Cuba direct from Fll, says silver air? Checked but saying no flights? Any info.
Just heard on news we can fly to Cuba direct from Fll, says silver air? Checked but saying no flights? Any info.Flights start September 1. Now the race starts which is good for us. I've cancelled all my summer trips to the DR for July and August because the airlines are charging 700 usd for trips. Once Cuba comes into play their will be an adjustment throughout the Caribbean. Prices from FLL to Cienfuegos are in the 300 usd range.
Hey guys,
I'm have a 1 to 2 week off in July and thinking about visiting Havana. I'm 30 years old and I want see and experience what Cuba has to offer before it becomes another Disneyland. I like to think I'm well traveled and can handle myself with the pros problem is that I speak no Spanish. My question is how important is the language aspect? Should I go somewhere else like DR or CR? Finally anyone of Vets possibly recommend me a fixer (I'm not demanding, just a guy / girl to show me right places for girl and food) appreciate the help!
That question has been asked 100 times. RTFF.
Hey guys,
I'm have a 1 to 2 week off in July and thinking about visiting Havana. I'm 30 years old and I want see and experience what Cuba has to offer before it becomes another Disneyland. I like to think I'm well traveled and can handle myself with the pros problem is that I speak no Spanish. My question is how important is the language aspect? Should I go somewhere else like DR or CR? Finally anyone of Vets possibly recommend me a fixer (I'm not demanding, just a guy / girl to show me right places for girl and food) appreciate the help!
Sounds like Cuba can provide more GFE than other places in Latin America right now. Would you say that? I am travelling for 3 weeks in July and I am undecided about the destination. BBBJ is a must but too worried to try that in Sosua.I think the GFE experience is more possible outside of Havana. Things have changed these days.
I just came back from Bali and there was so much GFE there to be had! LOL.
BrohamaJohn
06-29-16, 01:39
I'll be in Havana next week to check out the city and scope out the nightlife.
I visited Colombia on the recommendation of ISG and had a blast so I bought a subscription. Feel free to message me.
I would love to know as much as I can and what the real deal is B4 hand.
Flew from US to Cancun and walked to Cancun terminal 2 that houses Cubana airlines (Shuttle takes too long). Paid for the visa ($25 USD in pesos only) and also the airport tax (350 MX pesos) and was on my way.Tacoma,
Thanks for the excellent reports on your Cuba trip. I would be curious to know what happened on your way back home. I assume you returned to the U.S. through Cancun? How did CBP treat you when you arrived in the good ol' U.S. Of A. ? Did they waive you through without a problem? Does Cuban customs stamp a visa in your passport?
Hey G.
Yes, I came back the exact same way and as many have mentioned, I had zero problems. Cuban customs will generally ask if you want your passport stamped. I prefer to collect Cuba stamps and have had mine stamped 3 times now. Can't wait to be back in Cuba in October!
One other point is that I use the Global Entry so I really don't talk to anyone on the US side. For you guys without Global entry, just track down a hotel name / address before you go so you have some info as to where you "stayed" while in Cancun. Oh and don't bring back cigars or anything silly.
Tacoma,
Thanks for the excellent reports on your Cuba trip. I would be curious to know what happened on your way back home. I assume you returned to the U.S. through Cancun? How did CBP treat you when you arrived in the good ol' U.S. Of A. ? Did they waive you through without a problem? Does Cuban customs stamp a visa in your passport?
Hey G.
Yes, I came back the exact same way and as many have mentioned, I had zero problems. Cuban customs will generally ask if you want your passport stamped. I prefer to collect Cuba stamps and have had mine stamped 3 times now. Can't wait to be back in Cuba in October!
One other point is that I use the Global Entry so I really don't talk to anyone on the US side. For you guys without Global entry, just track down a hotel name / address before you go so you have some info as to where you "stayed" while in Cancun. Oh and don't bring back cigars or anything silly.Hey Tacoma,
Hey man maybe we can meet in la Habana in October. Don't know yet if I'll be able to make it but in case I do I'll PM you before that time.
BTW, I went to Cuba this last February / March, I stayed about a month all in la Habana and while there it's the time Obama visited Cuba. Since I stay at a casa particular a block and half from the now US embassy, one day I went there and asked if I could be invited when Obama came to the embassy, LOL I was told no.
But I had an interview with a lady which I thought was gringa (she's cubana!) and asked her if I could bring back any rum / cigars to which she told me US customs allow up to $100 worth of these items. When I went thru customs in Miami I did the ATM entry and I swear I could of brought back 5 boxes of Cohibas since when I handed over the printout to the customs agent he just took it and said "welcome home" nothing checked whatsoever other than my declaration that I filled on the ATM machine. So, yes one can bring cigars / rum back from Cuba, up to one Benji and if one feels lucky 4 or 5 boxes of Cohibas is doable. I got the vibe that they're not really going after us guys coming back like before the relations started getting back to normal.
I brought back a box of Cohibas (25) and one bottle of Havana Club 3 year old, 1. 5.
Mondo.
YellowPaul
07-09-16, 22:12
Does anybody have the # of a good English speaking driver / translator for the Havana area?
Please send me a PM.
The Tall Man
07-10-16, 22:04
Hey G.
Yes, I came back the exact same way and as many have mentioned, I had zero problems. Cuban customs will generally ask if you want your passport stamped. I prefer to collect Cuba stamps and have had mine stamped 3 times now. Can't wait to be back in Cuba in October!
One other point is that I use the Global Entry so I really don't talk to anyone on the US side. For you guys without Global entry, just track down a hotel name / address before you go so you have some info as to where you "stayed" while in Cancun. Oh and don't bring back cigars or anything silly.Last year 2015 in August I visited Cuba for a few weeks. I flew from LAX to Panama then Havana. Yes my passport was stamped but no problem returning back in LAX as I have Global Entry and so I don't need to even show my passport just got through the kiosk.
Although I did not bring back any Cuban cigars I did have oil paintings from an artist in Havana along with other souvenirs which if looked would be clear where I was at but no issues at LAX customs.
Have fun! I am glad I made the visit as I wanted to visit before things open up.
TTM.
The Tall Man
08-09-16, 01:53
Spot on Taboc. In 20 minutes I am heading for LAX and will be in Havana tomorrow. My first time in Cuba but after 15-20 years of mongering in many other countries. I always remind myself about setting expectations. When I do keep any expectations reasonable and with a mindset that "It's the journey and not the destination" I always come out the other end with a sense of gratitude for the friendships and experiences.
Like I said tomorrow at this time I will be in Havana. I am grateful for another seasoned Cuba vet who has taken me under his wings and whom I will be sharing the next week or so with.
I will report during and / or after my travels.
Be safe all!
The Tall Man.I can hardly believe that one year has gone by since my first and last travel to Havana. I did in fact write a full report about my trip and observations. Looking back a year now my general opinions have not changed and from what I have read the P4 P scene still remains about the same.
I am just glad that I can write Cuba off my bucket list, now off to South America where I spend my travel time and fun!
Again applies to Be Safe All!
The Tall Man.
Havana is dead -- I just returned after a 10 day stay in early August.
P4P is only available in the Discos with the girls (professionals) asking 60 to 100 Cuc.
Most of the girls start arriving at the clubs around 12 am so if your not a late night person forget it.
There are no more part timers on the streets and many of the police are dressed in civilian / plainclothes so girls are now more on edge.
I don't know anything about the chica scene in the provinces only the Havana. Miramar area.
Its becoming very Americanized with "sports bars" and Burger joints opening up. The currency conversion rate for dollars is terrible - $100 American gets you 87 cuc.
Its a shame because the place used to really rock.
Havana is dead -- I just returned after a 10 day stay in early August.
P4P is only available in the Discos with the girls (professionals) asking 60 to 100 Cuc.
Most of the girls start arriving at the clubs around 12 am so if your not a late night person forget it.
There are no more part timers on the streets and many of the police are dressed in civilian / plainclothes so girls are now more on edge.
I don't know anything about the chica scene in the provinces only the Havana. Miramar area.
Its becoming very Americanized with "sports bars" and Burger joints opening up. The currency conversion rate for dollars is terrible - $100 American gets you 87 cuc.
Its a shame because the place used to really rock.I love posts like this. Keeps the Yankees away! .
Free.
I'm a US citizen and the only reason I traveled to Cuba so much over the years was to avoid the Americans.
The Americans fuck up everything. I'm done with Cuba let the Americans have it.
Imagine college kids going to Cuba for spring break, hotels serving bagels and Budweiser beer being drunk along the Malecon. That's really ugly.
The Tall Man
08-20-16, 19:03
Free.
I'm a US citizen and the only reason I traveled to Cuba so much over the years was to avoid the Americans.
The Americans fuck up everything. I'm done with Cuba let the Americans have it.
Imagine college kids going to Cuba for spring break, hotels serving bagels and Budweiser beer being drunk along the Malecon. That's really ugly.Hold your horses, yes agree that when the gates are open to US for travel it will become a mess BUT let me tell you the truth, the Europeans, the Israelis, the Italians, the Dutch, the Brits, the Russians, the Spaniards have, in terms of casting Cuba as the sex mongering place in the world, took that prize long ago.
TTM.
Hold your horses, yes agree that when the gates are open to US for travel it will become a mess BUT let me tell you the truth, the Europeans, the Israelis, the Italians, the Dutch, the Brits, the Russians, the Spaniards have, in terms of casting Cuba as the sex mongering place in the world, took that prize long ago.
TTM.Agreed. People have gone way overboard with this notion of mass numbers of US tourists fucking up Cuba. The Canadians and Europeans have plundered the beaches and chicas of Cuba for years (not to mention all the Americans that have gone illegally over the last 25 years). If you want to get away from the tourists, go to smaller towns. Or areas of Havana that aren't touristy. If you hang around Vieja or Vedado, yes it's spoiled. But there's much more to Havana and Cuba.
Its more about the American mentality and how ugly it is.
We all love Cuban pussy regardless of what country we are from and the amount of time our forefathers spent mongering.
Granted most Cubanas can not be trusted as far as you could throw them but these girls realize that sex is natural and should be enjoyed.
Its not something that should be marketed and learned from the TV, billboards, and magazines being promoted by Fortune 500 companies.
I agree with Mr Combos assessment. The Castros will not open the flood gates and allow a free fall. Havana will be the spot spoiled and used as "Tourist central". The rest of the island should remain as it has always been.
Fidel just had his 90th birthday and celebrated by ripping Obama, the man that worked harder than any US president to normalize Cuba. Trump or Hillary won't be as accommodating and might even make a stand which could lead to friction. BTW, why hasn't Cuba dropped the 10 percent fee imposed on exchanging US dollars as they agreed to do in April? Don't be fooled, China is stepping up with investments in Cuba along with France. Cuba and America have a storied history of fucking each other, and I don't think they have grown past that. Cuba was built on revolution, Cuba was built standing against the imperialists, Cuba has always stood alone, it's something they live by and are proud of.
I agree with Mr Combos assessment. The Castros will not open the flood gates and allow a free fall. Havana will be the spot spoiled and used as "Tourist central". The rest of the island should remain as it has always been.
(BTW, why hasn't Cuba dropped the 10 percent fee imposed on exchanging US dollars as they agreed to do in April?
Hey Mr Gogo.
I too wondered back in the day why Cuba imposes a 10% gravamen on USD exchanges only and no other currency suffers this.
BTW, I think I explained this before on one of the threads here, can't remember where I posted but again I'll explain this to you and all mongers here.
As I explained before the so call embargo called bloqueo on the island prohibits the Cuban government to use USD "anywhere in the world".
So, If you deal with Cuba (any country in the western world) and in such transaction USD are involved you get fined. This costs the Cuban government quite a bit to exchange dollars into different currencies to be able to buy / trade with western countries and in the end we mongers & tourists end up paying for it.
That's why USD get the 10% gravamen. Hope this clears it up for you.
Mondo.
I agree with Mr Combos assessment. The Castros will not open the flood gates and allow a free fall. Havana will be the spot spoiled and used as "Tourist central". The rest of the island should remain as it has always been.
(BTW, why hasn't Cuba dropped the 10 percent fee imposed on exchanging US dollars as they agreed to do in April?
Hey Mr Gogo.
I too wondered back in the day why Cuba imposes a 10% gravamen on USD exchanges only and no other currency suffers this.
BTW, I think I explained this before on one of the threads here, can't remember where I posted but again I'll explain this to you and all mongers here..You are absolute correct Mondo. But I just did my research and Cuba agreed to lift the 10 percent fee on March 17, 2016 in response to Obama easing restrictions. Now Cuba is backing out that deal and not lifting the fee until the full embargo is lifted, which won't happen with the republicans controlling congress. Cuba is fined for doing international transactions with the embargo in place. With the current election going in the US, no one is paying attention and Obama is opening up all the flood gates to prevent the next president from reversing his decisions easily. But rest assured the next president will make this an issue. Stay tuned.
Hey Mr Gogo.
But I just did my research and Cuba agreed to lift the 10 percent fee on March 17,2016 in response to Obama easing restrictions. Now Cuba is backing out that deal and not lifting the fee until the full embargo is lifted, which won't happen with the republicans controlling congress.
Yes, what you say is true, Cuba agreed to drop the 10% gravamen ONCE THE US EASED RESTRICTIONS. Now again, by easing restriction meant was that Cuba would be able to trade using USD in those transactions, what's holding them back to implement this is their inability to use USD in international transactions with the western world.
FYI, they've tried and no one will do business bc of the fear of getting fined by USG for doing business with Cuba. You can find numerous examples of banks outside the US getting fined for handling transaction where Cuba is involved, so until they are able to us their USD in international trade I am afraid the 10% gravamen will stay in place.
My personal take is that even Republicans nowadays are more agreeable to drop the sanctions since their own constituencies don't want to be left out of getting a piece of the pie (business opportunities) and are pushing politicians to drop the embargo. The one thing preventing this so far is the Cuban / American politicians from SoFla & New Jersey standing in the way.
Mondo.
BeersTerry
08-23-16, 01:19
Such is the hypocrisy of the USA Government. Embargo is only a pretense to create a situation for those with friends in high places to do business in Cuba.
Arrest warrants have been issued for foreign nationals that have done business with Cuba. What business is it of the USA That another country does business with Cuba?
And lets not go alllllll the way back to Helms Burton. When discovered that if enacted entirely, it would have allowed United Empire Loyalists to reclaim many now historical landmarks in the former 13 colonies, that specific troubling portion was dropped.
Cuba does what is best for their interests as every other country does. Maybe Cuba didn't do what you thought it was supposed to do because the other party involved did not do what they were supposed to do.
BeersTerry
08-23-16, 01:31
Agreed. People have gone way overboard with this notion of mass numbers of US tourists fucking up Cuba. The Canadians and Europeans have plundered the beaches and chicas of Cuba for years (not to mention all the Americans that have gone illegally over the last 25 years). If you want to get away from the tourists, go to smaller towns. Or areas of Havana that aren't touristy. If you hang around Vieja or Vedado, yes it's spoiled. But there's much more to Havana and Cuba.American tourists will go once and find out what a shit hole Cuba can be. All those flights to the beach destinations? Americans will go, they will find how bad the food and service is compared to Mexico, the. Are. Or any other island in the Carribean. If you go to the small towns, there is no infrastructure. Maybe one restaurant or even two. You are shitting into a hole and dumping the tp into a waste basket, that is if you even find tp.
Havana still can be good but so many of the chicas are in Miami / Las Vegas, Mexico, Spain, Britain and even Turkey & Russia.
Ya there are alot of fast food burger type joints opening up. At the end of the meal they hand you a card so that you can rate them on trip advisor.
The Tall Man
08-23-16, 04:19
Last year at this time I did my obligatory, and wrote it off my bucket list of things to do, and stayed 10 days in and around Havana but since then never looked back and off to other places both new and repeated destinations.
One thing I will never forget about my 10 day stay last year in August. Damn it's hot and humid in Cuba in August.
TTM.
A lot of renovations and Americanization.
BeersTerry
08-23-16, 13:27
Last year at this time I did my obligatory, and wrote it off my bucket list of things to do, and stayed 10 days in and around Havana but since then never looked back and off to other places both new and repeated destinations.
One thing I will never forget about my 10 day stay last year in August. Damn it's hot and humid in Cuba in August.
TTM.IMO the only place to be in and around Havana in August is the beach. Even the Cubans do nothing but hang at the beach in August as many are given August off as it is too hot to work. The only month worst than August is September when it is also very very humid.
Hello brothers,
I'm headed to Havana next month and I could use some advice about parks\day spots to pick up chicas at. Generally I can do my best to figure out what night's hot where but the day spots\parks\cafes have always eluded me.
Also if you have any suggestions for night life that's welcome too! The only real hit I had on my last trip was Las Piedras. I'll share my report on my return.
Thanks!
Trisnate
There's very little street action in Havana, Vedado and Miramar.
You may be disappointed but do not let me discourage you.
Cuba is no longer a point and click P4P destination.
Hello brothers,
I'm headed to Havana next month and I could use some advice about parks\day spots to pick up chicas at. Generally I can do my best to figure out what night's hot where but the day spots\parks\cafes have always eluded me.
Also if you have any suggestions for night life that's welcome too! The only real hit I had on my last trip was Las Piedras. I'll share my report on my return.
Thanks!
TrisnateRight now Havana is hot and the girls are very nervous. This is where your people skills and creativity are needed. The hardcore street girls aren't worth the problem of cops watching them or them being informants. Befriend an English speaking taxi driver or bicitaxi guy and have them give you a tour. Eventually they will offer girl hookups and will give you an introduction and drop them off at your Casa. The girls might have a Casa friend that won't document the visit. Work one of the Internet sites and arrange a meet is another way. Young hot Cubans walking carefree holding your hand in the street is not the play at this time in Havana. Pussy is still there but change your approach to avoid problems.
Trisnate,
One piece of advice is to never trust a Cuban.
The more trust and kindness you show them the more they will take advantage.
Its a nasty thing to say but it took me over 15 years to realize this. In the long run they always let me down but never sexually!
Right now Havana is hot and the girls are very nervous. This is where your people skills and creativity are needed. The hardcore street girls aren't worth the problem of cops watching them or them being informants. Befriend an English speaking taxi driver or bicitaxi guy and have them give you a tour. Eventually they will offer girl hookups and will give you an introduction and drop them off at your Casa. The girls might have a Casa friend that won't document the visit. Work one of the Internet sites and arrange a meet is another way. Young hot Cubans walking carefree holding your hand in the street is not the play at this time in Havana. Pussy is still there but change your approach to avoid problems.Thanks Mr Gogo. I appreciate. You've pushed me in the right direction. I've had a bad experience picking up off the street so I think I'll stick to the cafes instead of parks under the circumstances. I'll map out all the popular cafes and do a few rounds. Luckily I have a caffeine addiction!
Thanks Mr Gogo. I appreciate. You've pushed me in the right direction. I've had a bad experience picking up off the street so I think I'll stick to the cafes instead of parks under the circumstances. I'll map out all the popular cafes and do a few rounds. Luckily I have a caffeine addiction!The cafes, parks on Obispo, Prada, Parque centro, Inglaterra terrace are all part of the hardcore girl circuit. If you sit at any of these spots you will see the same girls pass by every 20 minutes. If the police are cracking down, they will start with these spots during the day. If you act like a tourist, in the tourist spots, it's hit and miss. If you tap into the local scene by having an introduction it makes things much easier and discreet. Good luck Sir.
There's very little street action in Havana, Vedado and Miramar.
You may be disappointed but do not let me discourage you.
Cuba is no longer a point and click P4P destination.It hasn't been point and click P4 P since the 90's. Cuba is a completely different animal than Brasil, Colombia, DR, and just about everywhere else written about on this board. It can be very rewarding if you go about things the right way. But a lot of guys on here aren't going to want that hassle.
What do I need to know to NOT end up in one of Castro's jails for soliciting? Is there an ideal AirBnB situation / location I should arrange? I'll admit, I'm writing blind here and haven't read the forum. If that info is there, please just let me know. I was just looking for a quick vector as to how easy it will be to plan for a February trip, assuming I can meet the requisite US Treasury department requirements for "educational purposes". Any putas out there that teach Greek? LOL!
Thanks in advance!
What do I need to know to NOT end up in one of Castro's jails for soliciting? Is there an ideal AirBnB situation / location I should arrange? I'll admit, I'm writing blind here and haven't read the forum. If that info is there, please just let me know. I was just looking for a quick vector as to how easy it will be to plan for a February trip, assuming I can meet the requisite US Treasury department requirements for "educational purposes". Any putas out there that teach Greek? LOL!
Thanks in advance!I wasn't going to reply because you have 6 months to prepare and don't want to read the forum but I see this is your post number 777 so I took that as a positive sign LOL. I see you frequent Brazil so you might want to take Havana off your list, you will be greatly disappointed.
I like your honesty in your post but you have everything wrong; Fidel doesn't lock tourist in jail for solicitation. Qualifying for one of the 12 categories requires you to simply check a box, people to people is the easiest. No proof is required. Airnb I've never used but it's a mistake to book anything for Cuban casas on the Internet, it's hit and miss. They will say the have a place but will neglect to post that granny and three kids are also in the home.
Cuba takes many trips to work with pleasure. It took me three trips to find the perfect Casa as I had to work the ladder from the streets. Girls are there and they are gorgeous and hot in bed but again you have to have connections that you have cultivated over several trips. Havana is under a microscope now so it will be even harder than when I started a few years ago. If you really want to go just do it for a historical reason and enjoy that but if you think Havana is going to even come close to Brazil, think again.
The Tall Man
09-12-16, 20:02
What do I need to know to NOT end up in one of Castro's jails for soliciting? Is there an ideal AirBnB situation / location I should arrange? I'll admit, I'm writing blind here and haven't read the forum. If that info is there, please just let me know. I was just looking for a quick vector as to how easy it will be to plan for a February trip, assuming I can meet the requisite US Treasury department requirements for "educational purposes". Any putas out there that teach Greek? LOL!
Thanks in advance!No secrets to it just start reading from about 40 pages back, skim some of the posts and closely follow the details of others and you will be good to go.
Have fun and be safe!
TTM.
PepolesBuddy
09-22-16, 00:27
What are the average price range for chicas? Are there brothels? Street girls? Escort agencies? Something similar to HDR in Costa Rica?
Average price is now 65 - no brothels, no street girls and no agencies.
Read the previous posts.
Uncle Volodya
10-07-16, 15:27
My fellow mongers!
I am gong to Cuba next month for work and I need some advice. I have RTFF but I am still confused on a lot of issues. Any info / advice you gusy can give woudl be much appreciated.
I am going to Havana for a conference. The organizer have suggested we stay at casas and have even recommended a a website where we can book.
http://www.havanacasaparticular.com/
They also suggest that we stay in Vedado as this is close to the conference venue.
Perusing the casas listings I noticed that they are categorized by "People who care about. " family", "budget", etc. One of the categories is "romance". Can I interpret this to mean the casa is "girl friendly"?
In any case, can anyone recommend a girl friendly casa in Vedado?
Also, I gather form reading the reports that the best strategy nowadays for finding girls is to befriend a good taxi guy. Can anyone recommend a guy to me that has helped them in the past?
I would be very grateful for any help and I will post my experiences (I have a good track record of doign thsi on the board. Just check my posts form Asia and Euroep).
Many thanks in advance!
Uncle-V.
Uncle send me a PM with your email address. I have a nice casa in Vedado across street from Cohiba over looking the malecon.
Hi brothers,
My report goes a little something like this.
Friday.
Arrived around midnight and was excited to be going to Las Piedras for their after hour glory. Passed by the club in a cab around 1 am And it was closed! No lights and not a person in sight. Later on in the trip I found out it closed due to a drug related operation being run in the bar. A chica told me it would re-open in January but I don't know how reliable that information is.
The cab driver suggested LOS ches and we were off. I got the feeling we were doing rounds though and he dropped me off at case de la musica miramar. I told him I knew very well he missed his mark and I planned on tipping him but now would pay only the Las Piedras fare.
I snuck a peak into both casa de la music and el diablo tun tun but they weren't doing it. A cab driver suggests a place he knows in vedado called "bollabao" and we're off. I figure out in the cab ride he meant "Up and down". When I walked in I immediately liked the energy but it was late around 1 ish and girls were already paired up. The upstairs looked bumping but it was their VIP and I didn't want to bother trying to grease my way up there.
Cue Yuni a thick blonde by the bar that was separated from her friends upstairs due to space issues. I bought her a drink and we talked and danced. The lights went on around 2 and we went for a walk on the malecon to grab another drink. I urged her to skip it and told her there was booze at my place. Negotiated 50 with the cab included. She was kind of naggy but it was late and she wasn't that fine so take it or leave it. Her performance was mad average and she had trouble taking it past third gear. She kept asking me to finish so I obliged. It was late, I was tired, she wasn't that hot naked and I just wanted to get my rocks off and go to bed. Never called her back.
Saturday.
Spent the day by the pool. The Melia cohiba usually offers a small price for a weekly membership to their gym but the gym is under renos and the front desk are always so smug about only hotel guests at the pool. I went across to the rivera. All in all I think habana libra might be a good choice for a weekend pool party but I kept hearing things about Chateau. Not sure about the location for Chateau though.
In the evening decided to check out fabrica del arte. It turned out it was closed until October 6th for renovations. Hopped in a cab and headed to la cecilia. It was dead quiet and the bouncer told me chacal was performing at Don Cangrejo. 25 CUC entrance, an extra cab ride and I was finally in a place filled with countless chicas. Sigh of relief.
I conducted a few interviews and mingled for a bit. I pulled a few numbers. I settled on Yaileen; a tight and trim mulata from Holguin. We settled on a 70 CUC tip and we were off around 3 am Great performance and fantastic body. I was a little drunk so it lasted a while but she was a real pro about it. Great experience.
Sunday.
Spent the day pool side then went for a stroll in Havana vieja for the cafes. I didn't really see much action popping my head in and out of cafes of obispo and other streets. The busiest may have been el floridita but it was a tourist vibe so I bailed on the idea and took a nap.
Later that evening I ended up checking el Rio club (aka el johny) because it was close by my casa but it was a quiet sad scene. I took a cab to la rampa and stopped at salon rojo but it was empty. Swung by la gruta but there wasn't much going on and certainly not enough choices. I didn't stay too long.
I decided to stroll el malecon and I spot a negra with an amazing ass. Her friend whistles at me so I join them. Her name is Rosa and we have a pretty intimate conversation for 30 minutes. It's getting late so I shoot an offer of 50 CUC and told her unfortunately I was waiting until the next day to exchange some cash.
We hop in a cab with her friends and her friends wait for her up the street. It was a fantastic performance. She was really passionate. Amazing ass doggystyle. I would've repeated but she struck me as stage 4 clingy. She wanted to stay the night and kept talking relationship talk.
Monday.
Day off.
Tuesday.
I did a role call of some of the girls numbers at Don Cangrejo. Eventually I land on Yiselle. A thin model looking triguena with a bubbly personality and great smile. She struck me as a bit of a semi pro at the club but she was all pro with the call. I barely had time to dress after my shower when she arrived. It was funny; we sat, had a couple of drinks, and chatted for over an hour. It honestly felt like a first date. Normally I'm used to the fidgety wham bam thank you mam girls at my door step. I had her in her underwear rounding second base and decided to talk gifts. She was fine with 60 CUC with the cab inclusive. She mentioned she had done this a few times before and never felt so shy. It was a good performance and I was glad to burn a little time with a pretty girl with a lot of positivism.
Wednesday.
I decided to repeat Yiselle due to an early flight the next day. She was more comfortable and this second performance was slightly better than her first. She mentioned LOS ches was probably my best bet for a party early on in the week.
Later on in the evening my curiosity got the best of me and I tried to hail a cab to LOS ches unsuccessfully. The couple of cab drivers I stopped looked at me blankly about the destination. I couldn't help but remember the first cab driver mispronouncing up and down. My airport cab driver told me it was spelt with an a and an h at the beginning. Kind of like the letter h spelled phonetically in Spanish LOS\las h (silent) -a -see-h-e-s. Anyway google comes up blank so if anyone can clarify for the team that'd the be great. Good reviews all round for this place.
Enjoy,
Trisnate
Hi brothers,
My report goes a little something like this.
Friday.
Arrived around midnight and was excited to be going to Las Piedras for their after hour glory. Passed by the club in a cab around 1 am And it was closed! No lights and not a person in sight. Later on in the trip I found out it closed due to a drug related operation being run in the bar. A chica told me it would re-open in January but I don't know how reliable that information is.
The cab driver suggested LOS ches and we were off. I got the feeling we were doing rounds though and he dropped me off at case de la musica miramar. I told him I knew very well he missed his mark and I planned on tipping him but now would pay only the Las Piedras fare.
I snuck a peak into both casa de la music and el diablo tun tun but they weren't doing it. A cab driver suggests a place he knows in vedado called "bollabao" and we're off. I figure out in the cab ride he meant "Up and down". When I walked in I immediately liked the energy but it was late around 1 ish and girls were already paired up. The upstairs looked bumping but it was their VIP and I didn't want to bother trying to grease my way up there.
Cue Yuni a thick blonde by the bar that was separated from her friends upstairs due to space issues. I bought her a drink and we talked and danced. The lights went on around 2 and we went for a walk on the malecon to grab another drink. I urged her to skip it and told her there was booze at my place. Negotiated 50 with the cab included. She was kind of naggy but it was late and she wasn't that fine so take it or leave it. Her performance was mad average and she had trouble taking it past third gear. She kept asking me to finish so I obliged. It was late, I was tired, she wasn't that hot naked and I just wanted to get my rocks off and go to bed. Never called her back.
Saturday.
Spent the day by the pool. The Melia cohiba usually offers a small price for a weekly membership to their gym but the gym is under renos and the front desk are always so smug about only hotel guests at the pool. I went across to the rivera. All in all I think habana libra might be a good choice for a weekend pool party but I kept hearing things about Chateau. Not sure about the location for Chateau though.
In the evening decided to check out fabrica del arte. It turned out it was closed until October 6th for renovations. Hopped in a cab and headed to la cecilia. It was dead quiet and the bouncer told me chacal was performing at Don Cangrejo. 25 CUC entrance, an extra cab ride and I was finally in a place filled with countless chicas. Sigh of relief.
I conducted a few interviews and mingled for a bit. I pulled a few numbers. I settled on Yaileen; a tight and trim mulata from Holguin. We settled on a 70 CUC tip and we were off around 3 am Great performance and fantastic body. I was a little drunk so it lasted a while but she was a real pro about it. Great experience.
Sunday.
Spent the day pool side then went for a stroll in Havana vieja for the cafes. I didn't really see much action popping my head in and out of cafes of obispo and other streets. The busiest may have been el floridita but it was a tourist vibe so I bailed on the idea and took a nap.
Later that evening I ended up checking el Rio club (aka el johny) because it was close by my casa but it was a quiet sad scene. I took a cab to la rampa and stopped at salon rojo but it was empty. Swung by la gruta but there wasn't much going on and certainly not enough choices. I didn't stay too long.
I decided to stroll el malecon and I spot a negra with an amazing ass. Her friend whistles at me so I join them. Her name is Rosa and we have a pretty intimate conversation for 30 minutes. It's getting late so I shoot an offer of 50 CUC and told her unfortunately I was waiting until the next day to exchange some cash.
We hop in a cab with her friends and her friends wait for her up the street. It was a fantastic performance. She was really passionate. Amazing ass doggystyle. I would've repeated but she struck me as stage 4 clingy. She wanted to stay the night and kept talking relationship talk.
Monday.
Day off.
Tuesday.
I did a role call of some of the girls numbers at Don Cangrejo. Eventually I land on Yiselle. A thin model looking triguena with a bubbly personality and great smile. She struck me as a bit of a semi pro at the club but she was all pro with the call. I barely had time to dress after my shower when she arrived. It was funny; we sat, had a couple of drinks, and chatted for over an hour. It honestly felt like a first date. Normally I'm used to the fidgety wham bam thank you mam girls at my door step. I had her in her underwear rounding second base and decided to talk gifts. She was fine with 60 CUC with the cab inclusive. She mentioned she had done this a few times before and never felt so shy. It was a good performance and I was glad to burn a little time with a pretty girl with a lot of positivism.
Wednesday.
I decided to repeat Yiselle due to an early flight the next day. She was more comfortable and this second performance was slightly better than her first. She mentioned LOS ches was probably my best bet for a party early on in the week.
Later on in the evening my curiosity got the best of me and I tried to hail a cab to LOS ches unsuccessfully. The couple of cab drivers I stopped looked at me blankly about the destination. I couldn't help but remember the first cab driver mispronouncing up and down. My airport cab driver told me it was spelt with an a and an h at the beginning. Kind of like the letter h spelled phonetically in Spanish LOS\las h (silent) -a -see-h-e-s. Anyway google comes up blank so if anyone can clarify for the team that'd the be great. Good reviews all round for this place.
Enjoy,
Trisnate
Hey Trisnate,
Great report. Thanks for sharing.
Seems like you've been to Cuba before, care to give us your take as far as how you see the action this time around from the last times you visited?
From reading your report seems like prices are keeping the line.
Mondo.
Sammytheman
10-11-16, 20:50
1st off wanted to thank you for the report. Too many guys come here asking for advice and very few write a report. La Habana was good 3-4 years ago. Now a lot of places are closed or empty or filled with expensive hardcore ugly girls. I remember paying model types 50 CUCs after a few drinks and dances. Also I've noticed some most of the girls I had met over the past 4 years have disappeared.
Don't know if they left the island or are in prison. Either way RIP Habana. I had a great time. Time to look for another destination.
Hey Trisnate,
Great report. Thanks for sharing.
Seems like you've been to Cuba before, care to give us your take as far as how you see the action this time around from the last times you visited?
From reading your report seems like prices are keeping the line.
Mondo.Hey Mondo707,
Like some people on this forum I was lucky enough to catch Havana closer to the golden years and so I can't help but get a feeling of diminishing returns. Maybe it was the time of year I visited or lack of preparation but I felt you really had to keep your ear to the ground to find a good party. It was hit or miss. It might be different if you have local friends who can help keep tabs.
Chica wise I think you can talk a girl down to 50-80 CUC if you know what you're doing. The difficulty lies in the hunt and finding a flock of these girls. Keep in mind I didn't encounter any hardcore dime pros so it's always possible to pay closer to the ceiling (say 80-100) if it's worth it. This was one big miss. I recall several years ago going into the salon rojo and being surrounded by 100 hardcore super hot pros and then taking the hottest girl I've ever slept with home. I couldn't recreate that scenario over a short trip unfortunately. Not for lack of trying either.
My next trip to Cuba if I decide to go will be Holguin since I've heard great things.
At sammytheman it's funny you should mentioned girls disappearing. I called an old flame (3-4 years ago) when I was going through my numbers and she actually picked up. It was nice to hear her voice but she mentioned times had changed and it would be difficult to meet up. I assumed there was a man or even a baby in the picture but maybe she was talking about something else altogether.
Awesome report! I know so many of those places. Crazy to hear about many of them being closed for the short term. Hoping to take some friends back in March for another 5 day adventure.
I was surprised about the 50 CUC offer for a Malecon chica. I've seen those girls offer up the good times for as low as $25.
Hi brothers,
My report goes a little something like this.
Friday.
Arrived around midnight and was excited to be going to Las Piedras for their after hour glory. Passed by the club in a cab around 1 am And it was closed! No lights and not a person in sight. Later on in the trip I found out it closed due to a drug related operation being run in the bar. A chica told me it would re-open in January but I don't know how reliable that information is.
The cab driver suggested LOS ches and we were off. I got the feeling we were doing rounds though and he dropped me off at case de la musica miramar. I told him I knew very well he missed his mark and I planned on tipping him but now would pay only the Las Piedras fare.
I snuck a peak into both casa de la music and el diablo tun tun but they weren't doing it. A cab driver suggests a place he knows in vedado called "bollabao" and we're off. I figure out in the cab ride he meant "Up and down". When I walked in I immediately liked the energy but it was late around 1 ish and girls were already paired up. The upstairs looked bumping but it was their VIP and I didn't want to bother trying to grease my way up there.
Cue Yuni a thick blonde by the bar that was separated from her friends upstairs due to space issues. I bought her a drink and we talked and danced. The lights went on around 2 and we went for a walk on the malecon to grab another drink. I urged her to skip it and told her there was booze at my place. Negotiated 50 with the cab included. She was kind of naggy but it was late and she wasn't that fine so take it or leave it. Her performance was mad average and she had trouble taking it past third gear. She kept asking me to finish so I obliged. It was late, I was tired, she wasn't that hot naked and I just wanted to get my rocks off and go to bed. Never called her back.
Saturday.
Spent the day by the pool. The Melia cohiba usually offers a small price for a weekly membership to their gym but the gym is under renos and the front desk are always so smug about only hotel guests at the pool. I went across to the rivera. All in all I think habana libra might be a good choice for a weekend pool party but I kept hearing things about Chateau. Not sure about the location for Chateau though.
In the evening decided to check out fabrica del arte. It turned out it was closed until October 6th for renovations. Hopped in a cab and headed to la cecilia. It was dead quiet and the bouncer told me chacal was performing at Don Cangrejo. 25 CUC entrance, an extra cab ride and I was finally in a place filled with countless chicas. Sigh of relief.
I conducted a few interviews and mingled for a bit. I pulled a few numbers. I settled on Yaileen; a tight and trim mulata from Holguin. We settled on a 70 CUC tip and we were off around 3 am Great performance and fantastic body. I was a little drunk so it lasted a while but she was a real pro about it. Great experience.
Sunday.
Spent the day pool side then went for a stroll in Havana vieja for the cafes. I didn't really see much action popping my head in and out of cafes of obispo and other streets. The busiest may have been el floridita but it was a tourist vibe so I bailed on the idea and took a nap.
Later that evening I ended up checking el Rio club (aka el johny) because it was close by my casa but it was a quiet sad scene. I took a cab to la rampa and stopped at salon rojo but it was empty. Swung by la gruta but there wasn't much going on and certainly not enough choices. I didn't stay too long.
I decided to stroll el malecon and I spot a negra with an amazing ass. Her friend whistles at me so I join them. Her name is Rosa and we have a pretty intimate conversation for 30 minutes. It's getting late so I shoot an offer of 50 CUC and told her unfortunately I was waiting until the next day to exchange some cash.
We hop in a cab with her friends and her friends wait for her up the street. It was a fantastic performance. She was really passionate. Amazing ass doggystyle. I would've repeated but she struck me as stage 4 clingy. She wanted to stay the night and kept talking relationship talk.
Monday.
Day off.
Tuesday.
I did a role call of some of the girls numbers at Don Cangrejo. Eventually I land on Yiselle. A thin model looking triguena with a bubbly personality and great smile. She struck me as a bit of a semi pro at the club but she was all pro with the call. I barely had time to dress after my shower when she arrived. It was funny; we sat, had a couple of drinks, and chatted for over an hour. It honestly felt like a first date. Normally I'm used to the fidgety wham bam thank you mam girls at my door step. I had her in her underwear rounding second base and decided to talk gifts. She was fine with 60 CUC with the cab inclusive. She mentioned she had done this a few times before and never felt so shy. It was a good performance and I was glad to burn a little time with a pretty girl with a lot of positivism.
Wednesday.
I decided to repeat Yiselle due to an early flight the next day. She was more comfortable and this second performance was slightly better than her first. She mentioned LOS ches was probably my best bet for a party early on in the week.
Later on in the evening my curiosity got the best of me and I tried to hail a cab to LOS ches unsuccessfully. The couple of cab drivers I stopped looked at me blankly about the destination. I couldn't help but remember the first cab driver mispronouncing up and down. My airport cab driver told me it was spelt with an a and an h at the beginning. Kind of like the letter h spelled phonetically in Spanish LOS\las h (silent) -a -see-h-e-s. Anyway google comes up blank so if anyone can clarify for the team that'd the be great. Good reviews all round for this place.
Enjoy,
Trisnate
BeersTerry
10-31-16, 03:13
Havana has not been a good mongering place for quite some time. The system makes it hard to track down even the hardcore putas. As has been reported, you can show up at Salon Rojo, La Cecelia etc and find them closed. You used to be able to track where musical acts were playing on www.canalcubano.com and hence track where all the hot chicas were but they don't bother to post where anybody is playing anymore.
Yes you can find putas if you are trying but if you are hanging around, you tend to run into girls that are interested in "dating" you but no one goes to Havana to hang out and take your chances and hope to get lucky in being there when a popular group is playing. I like Havana but it is sometimes hard to hook up with "nice" girls. It seems that alot of Cubans are jumping ship. I have friends / acquaintances that stop posting and then two months later are posting from Mexico.
Colombia can be fun but now is running into some problems (a little bit of a hobbying gringo crackdown). That plus there is nothing to do other than to chase girls.
Havana has not been a good mongering place for quite some time. The system makes it hard to track down even the hardcore putas. As has been reported, you can show up at Salon Rojo, La Cecelia etc and find them closed. You used to be able to track where musical acts were playing on www.canalcubano.com and hence track where all the hot chicas were but they don't bother to post where anybody is playing anymore.
Yes you can find putas if you are trying but if you are hanging around, you tend to run into girls that are interested in "dating" you but no one goes to Havana to hang out and take your chances and hope to get lucky in being there when a popular group is playing. I like Havana but it is sometimes hard to hook up with "nice" girls. It seems that alot of Cubans are jumping ship. I have friends / acquaintances that stop posting and then two months later are posting from Mexico.
Colombia can be fun but now is running into some problems (a little bit of a hobbying gringo crackdown). That plus there is nothing to do other than to chase girls.Hey BT,
Have to agree with you as far as how things have deteriorated since the good old days.
I get regular info about places as far as who's playing where and when, let me know if you want it.
Below is a link about happenings in la Habana and throughout the island, though not everything is listed but it helps.
I've noticed that lately whoever is running these sites they're getting more up to speed as far as supplying info.
http://www.lapapeleta.cult.cu/actividad/noviembre.
Mondo.
Havana has not been a good mongering place for quite some time. The system makes it hard to track down even the hardcore putas. As has been reported, you can show up at Salon Rojo, La Cecelia etc and find them closed. You used to be able to track where musical acts were playing on www.canalcubano.com and hence track where all the hot chicas were but they don't bother to post where anybody is playing anymore.
Yes you can find putas if you are trying but if you are hanging around, you tend to run into girls that are interested in "dating" you but no one goes to Havana to hang out and take your chances and hope to get lucky in being there when a popular group is playing. I like Havana but it is sometimes hard to hook up with "nice" girls. It seems that alot of Cubans are jumping ship. I have friends / acquaintances that stop posting and then two months later are posting from Mexico.
Colombia can be fun but now is running into some problems (a little bit of a hobbying gringo crackdown). That plus there is nothing to do other than to chase girls.Honestly, it hasn't been a great pure mongering destination since the 90's. It has other qualities that I absolutely love and I will continue to visit. However, for guys that want point and click mongering, it shouldn't be your 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice.
Honestly, it hasn't been a great pure mongering destination since the 90's. It has other qualities that I absolutely love and I will continue to visit. However, for guys that want point and click mongering, it shouldn't be your 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice.I am also tired of Cuba. What is the best 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choices?
I am also tired of Cuba. What is the best 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choices?In the Western Hemisphere -- Brasil, Colombia, and the DR.
I've been traveling to Cuba for over 12 years and spent all of my time in the Havana / Vedado area.
Its obvious that the mongering scene is dying in Havana but I think their is some hope for those who are willing to travel outside of Havana to the provinces.
This type of vacation is for the adventurous monger and will require solid Spanish or a reliable guide for whom you will have to pick up his expenses.
I would try Camaguey first -- There are many beautiful girls from this region.
I've been traveling to Cuba for over 12 years and spent all of my time in the Havana / Vedado area.
Its obvious that the mongering scene is dying in Havana but I think their is some hope for those who are willing to travel outside of Havana to the provinces.
This type of vacation is for the adventurous monger and will require solid Spanish or a reliable guide for whom you will have to pick up his expenses.
I would try Camaguey first -- There are many beautiful girls from this region.Hey Adinga,
I will agree with you as far as the provinces go and the guide. Also, as you mention Español is quite an advantage since in the provinces English is not as common as it is in la Habana.
Still, I would not rule out la Habana and while not nearly as in the good old days still fun can be had although at a higher price nowadays.
Mondo.
Hey Adinga,
I will agree with you as far as the provinces go and the guide. Also, as you mention Espaol is quite an advantage since in the provinces English is not as common as it is in la Habana.
Still, I would not rule out la Habana and while not nearly as in the good old days still fun can be had although at a higher price nowadays.
Mondo.Fun can be had in la Habana and it can still be had at a reasonable price. It's just not going to be point-and-click mongering like in Brasil, Thailand, Colombia, etc. One needs to stay several days and not lodge in Vieja or Vedado. And speak Spanish of course.
Like Adinga, I've always stayed in Havana because is has everything I need (great music / dance scene). However, I'm contemplating flying into Holguin my next trip and spending some time there as well as in Santiago (tierra natal del Son).
BeersTerry
11-03-16, 02:08
I've been traveling to Cuba for over 12 years and spent all of my time in the Havana / Vedado area.
Its obvious that the mongering scene is dying in Havana but I think their is some hope for those who are willing to travel outside of Havana to the provinces.
This type of vacation is for the adventurous monger and will require solid Spanish or a reliable guide for whom you will have to pick up his expenses.
I would try Camaguey first -- There are many beautiful girls from this region.I have hung out in Camaguey, Santa Clara and a few other towns. They are alot of work.
I am tempted to visit Holguin. Maybe Bayamo for the truly adventurous.
For me the issue is the shitty food. At least in Havana you can always find good food. There are at last count 6 expat Italian restaurants and numerous other expats with places serving pretty good food. Even some of the Cuban places have had to up their game in order to compete.
I have hung out in Camaguey, Santa Clara and a few other towns. They are alot of work.
I am tempted to visit Holguin. Maybe Bayamo for the truly adventurous.
For me the issue is the shitty food. At least in Havana you can always find good food. There are at last count 6 expat Italian restaurants and numerous other expats with places serving pretty good food. Even some of the Cuban places have had to up their game in order to compete.The food has certainly improved in Havana over the last 15 years of so (or since they started allowing Paladares).
I'm guessing the smaller towns are about as good as Havana was in 2000, which isn't very!
Knock on the door of any casa particular and ask the owners if they can prepare dinner for you.
Try to give them a few hours notice and expect to pay 7 cuc in advance.
The home made traditional food is the best you will experience in Cuba.
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to decide on where to stay during my trip. Being my first time, it's hard to tell if the casa particular I pick is "chica friendly". Do most of the pros have their own places to go if need be? I would rather be in accommodations that are relatively safe than take my chances trying to find something I could take someone back to.
Please feel free to PM me if you have any specific tips or suggestions, thanks!
Here's a little tip.
Go to AirBnB website and search 'entire apartment / house' only. Then, read through the reviews and the amenities of the casa particular.
Usually the ones that are chica friendly (aka the ones you can sneak a girl in) will contain phrases like 'privacy', 'nightlife', 'safe'.
Contact the casa particular owner and ask (be vague though, since almost no owner of casa particular will openly admit that you can sneak a chica in without having to have their IDs checked) about a little more details (E. G. , if the owner lives close by (make it sound like you want to know if the owner is attentive should you have any problem / require assistance during your stay, about the security of the building, whether you get the keys to the building).
Lastly, when you rent a whole apartment via AirBnb and bring a lady in, don't tell the owner and if, in an unlikely event, the owner finds out and scolds you or whatever you can always say you didn't know about such rules of Cuba / casa particular since nobody mentioned it to you and that the lady was not going to sleep over so you thought it wasn't big of a deal etc.
Then you should be fine. At least in Havana anyways.
Also, build a good relationship with the casa particular's owner, especially if you're going to make a return visit to the country, it goes a long way.
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to decide on where to stay during my trip. Being my first time, it's hard to tell if the casa particular I pick is "chica friendly". Do most of the pros have their own places to go if need be? I would rather be in accommodations that are relatively safe than take my chances trying to find something I could take someone back to.
Please feel free to PM me if you have any specific tips or suggestions, thanks!
And yes, most pros do have places of their own or somewhere you can take care of your business but semi-pros and regulars won't.
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to decide on where to stay during my trip. Being my first time, it's hard to tell if the casa particular I pick is "chica friendly". Do most of the pros have their own places to go if need be? I would rather be in accommodations that are relatively safe than take my chances trying to find something I could take someone back to.
Please feel free to PM me if you have any specific tips or suggestions, thanks!
And yes, most pros do have places of their own or somewhere you can take care of your business but semi-pros and regulars won't.Thanks for the tips. Very helpful! I am really looking forward to the trip. Sounds like a challenge, but given the state of US politics, it might be a limited window of opportunity.
Thanks for the tips. Very helpful! I am really looking forward to the trip. Sounds like a challenge, but given the state of US politics, it might be a limited window of opportunity.No worries, and I forgot to add. Cuba is a police state and the government / police officers are very well aware of the fact that the foreign tourists are the country's main source of income and do their best to protect tourists from any harm.
So you won't really have to worry about being a victim of a violent crime (at very least in big cities like Havana. I would advise you, however, to be vigilant at all times especially if you choose to venture out of the beaten path into remote rural regions and etc.) but remember you will be pestered by people trying to sell you fake cigars, exchange dollars at a 'better' rate, offering to get you 'chicas', fake rums, take their taxis, etc. The rule of thumb to avoid being ripped off / scammed by one is to ignore anyone (especially if the person who's approaching is a male (assuming you're a heterosexual male) that approaches you on the street (unless it seems like an independent pro who you wish to have some quality time with). Don't even acknowledge their presence and keep walking. Also always make sure you negotiate the fare before you hop on a taxi and keep / hide your valuables away when you have a chica over at your place for the first time. As long as you keep those things in mind, I'm sure you won't encounter any problem while you're there.
Also, remember to walk separately (walk before her if you both are going to your place and follow after her otherwise) with a Cuban girl as it is very likely that a police officer will stop them (not you) and hassle them (worst case scenario, arrest them and send them to prison) to determine if they're prostituting themselves. You otherwise will have no problem with the police and they're quite reliable IMO.
Lastly, I am a Canadian citizen so I didn't have any problem visiting Cuba (I didn't need a permit from the government unlike Americans who do) but I've seen a lot of American tourists in Havana while I was there so I'm sure there are ways you can get around the requirement of having to obtain a permit from the US government. I don't know anything about it in details so I suggest you do due diligence / research).
Anyways Cuba is an amazing place to visit / monger and as Cuba is transforming itself to be a full-on capitalist country day by day, this is the right time to visit before it loses its charms after the transformation is completed.
I hope you enjoy your visit.
Hey G345,
While I agree with most of your post, I beg to differ with your assessment of "Cuba rushing to become a full blown capitalist country".
Like any country on earth (Cuba is no exception) there are the right / left / center factions within the society.
Since you mentioned you are from Canada, I'm almost certain that the majority of Canadians would never give up their health system to have a full blown health system like we do down south of you, with drug prices out of control, where Congress passed a law years ago to restrict itself (the government) to purchase meds from big pharma at the best posible price using their buying power in the process (no kidding!
Back to Cuba, Most Cubans, those in support of the system and those opposed to it would not want their health / education touch in a reform towards a more open system. I should know since I know people / family for and against what's going on these days down there.
BTW, In case you are not aware of it, Cuba with its health system (as a poor under develop in terms of material stuff) has the lowest infant mortality rate in the Americas, that includes Canada and USA and every other country south of the Rio Grande, just an FYI.
So, while changes will be coming to their economy, I am certain they will not become a China or Vietnam any time soon.
Mondo.
I can see where you're coming from.
Of course no one in their right minds will give up the free stuff they have.
However, Cubans that I've met were very envious of the perceived level of wealth that "the West" enjoyed. Additionally, not many of them seem to be aware of the responsibilities and the consequences that will follow the introduction of free market economy. Only a handful of highly educated people were 'somewhat' aware of this and were in favor of slow and gradual change of their economic system towards capitalism. If they were to have an all out election right now, I highly doubt they will be rational and patient enough to choose a path that will lead them toward capitalism gradually / slowly. It seems like a large portion of the Cuban population seem to think opening their economy and adopting capitalism will solve all of their problems. Of course, this is what many former communist countries' citizens initially thought and the current Cuban government is well aware of it. Hence, the current Cuban government is keeping the media and the people on a tight leash to keep people under control. However, I'm skeptical that the Cuban government will be able to keep this pace of gradual progress once Raul Castro is dead. First of all, the middle / upper class in Cuba is already rising as country steps towards capitalism gradually. This creates an overwhelming angst and desire among the rest of the Cuban population to become rich and to be able to upgrade their quality of living. Secondly, they'll inevitably have to move towards direct-democracy once the charismatic leader Raul Castro (who played a huge role in la Revolution) is gone (in which case I predict the country turning into Yeltsin's Russia not too long after or turning into former communist Eastern European nations which rapidly adopted free market economy without enough preparation (they by the way could use a 'ethnicity / nationalism' card but Cuba doesn't have such racial tension that a government can utilize in galvanizing support from its people) or even if the current Cuban government succeeds in maintaining their political power, it will be hard to keep people's vanity / greed under control (just look at China and Vietnam, if it wasn't for the fast pace of their economic development, the ruling parties in both countries would have been long gone). If the Cuban government loses the tight grip it has on its people (which I believe will happen sooner or later) it will turn into another post-Chavez Venezuela. Surely there are supporters of Maduro and Chavez in Venezuela but there also are significant number of people who are against Chavez-Maduro regime in Venezuela as well. Also, remember the Venezuelan model was only functional when the oil price was high. Well Cuba doesn't even have that so it's going to be even more difficult for the government to maintain the system functional once the government's grip on its people weakens after Raul steps down / passes away.
As for Canada, I'll tell you this. Canadians are only in favor of the universal health care because wealthy Canadians who can afford private health care are able to and almost always do skip the line by traveling down south to the US for their x-rays, surgeries, etc. If Canadians had to choose between living in a society that is equal, sustainable, but poor and a society that is not very equal but where they can improve their qualities of lives by accumulating their wealth, almost 100% of Canadians will choose the latter. Just consider the reason why most Canadians from Atlantic Canada (Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Islands, New Brunswick) moved to Alberta during the oil boom and why now everyone's moving to British Columbia (or even the US).
I can see where you're coming from.
Of course no one in their right minds will give up the free stuff they have.
However, Cubans that I've met were very envious of the perceived level of wealth that "the West" enjoyed. Additionally, not many of them seem to be aware of the responsibilities and the consequences that will follow the introduction of free market economy. Only a handful of highly educated people were 'somewhat' aware of this and were in favor of slow and gradual change of their economic system towards capitalism. If they were to have an all out election right now, I highly doubt they will be rational and patient enough to choose a path that will lead them toward capitalism gradually / slowly. It seems like a large portion of the Cuban population seem to think opening their economy and adopting capitalism will solve all of their problems. Of course, this is what many former communist countries' citizens initially thought and the current Cuban government is well aware of it. Hence, the current Cuban government is keeping the media and the people on a tight leash to keep people under control. However, I'm skeptical that the Cuban government will be able to keep this pace of gradual progress once Raul Castro is dead. First of all, the middle / upper class in Cuba is already rising as country steps towards capitalism gradually. This creates an overwhelming angst and desire among the rest of the Cuban population to become rich and to be able to upgrade their quality of living. Secondly, they'll inevitably have to move towards direct-democracy once the charismatic leader Raul Castro (who played a huge role in la Revolution) is gone (in which case I predict the country turning into Yeltsin's Russia not too long after or turning into former communist Eastern European nations which rapidly adopted free market economy without enough preparation (they by the way could use a 'ethnicity / nationalism' card but Cuba doesn't have such racial tension that a government can utilize in galvanizing support from its people) or even if the current Cuban government succeeds in maintaining their political power, it will be hard to keep people's vanity / greed under control (just look at China and Vietnam, if it wasn't for the fast pace of their economic development, the ruling parties in both countries would have been long gone). If the Cuban government loses the tight grip it has on its people (which I believe will happen sooner or later) it will turn into another post-Chavez Venezuela. Surely there are supporters of Maduro and Chavez in Venezuela but there also are significant number of people who are against Chavez-Maduro regime in Venezuela as well. Also, remember the Venezuelan model was only functional when the oil price was high. Well Cuba doesn't even have that so it's going to be even more difficult for the government to maintain the system functional once the government's grip on its people weakens after Raul steps down / passes away.
As for Canada, I'll tell you this. Canadians are only in favor of the universal health care because wealthy Canadians who can afford private health care are able to and almost always do skip the line by traveling down south to the US for their x-rays, surgeries, etc. If Canadians had to choose between living in a society that is equal, sustainable, but poor and a society that is not very equal but where they can improve their qualities of lives by accumulating their wealth, almost 100% of Canadians will choose the latter. Just consider the reason why most Canadians from Atlantic Canada (Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Islands, New Brunswick) moved to Alberta during the oil boom and why now everyone's moving to British Columbia (or even the US).Hey G345,
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Since you've already made up your mind which way Cuba is heading I"ll make you a bet! Let's meet in La Habana on the 500th anniversary of the city (11/2019) I'll be there if nothing happens before then to impede my plans.
My bet if things have change as you suggest, I'll buy you drinks and dinner at La Bodeguita del Medio or El Floridita or any comparable joint or paladar of your choosing in La Habana, in case they have not moved as fast as you suggest then you'll buy me the same. Let me know.
La Habana will be happening BIG time at this time, so hope you can make it.
BTW, Raul will be gone next year (2018) so you'll have almost 2 years to have your prediction come to fruition.
Mondo.
P.S. This is all for now, let's get back to the thread and hopefully some reports from mongers from there.
Kalifornication
12-28-16, 19:50
I'm too tired to give a long winded reply. Your analysis is presented well and it is clear you are a thinker. But compare accurately, Cuban "communism" is not soviet communism, it is more cubanism, the application of socialism within a uniquely Cuban context. More importamtly, Cuba is an island, not a continent. For that reason alone, I'll have to say your analysis is flawed.
I can see where you're coming from.
Of course no one in their right minds will give up the free stuff they have.
However, Cubans that I've met were very envious of the perceived level of wealth that "the West" enjoyed. Additionally, not many of them seem to be aware of the responsibilities and the consequences that will follow the introduction of free market economy. Only a handful of highly educated people were 'somewhat' aware of this and were in favor of slow and gradual change of their economic system towards capitalism. If they were to have an all out election right now, I highly doubt they will be rational and patient enough to choose a path that will lead them toward capitalism gradually / slowly. It seems like a large portion of the Cuban population seem to think opening their economy and adopting capitalism will solve all of their problems. Of course, this is what many former communist countries' citizens initially thought and the current Cuban government is well aware of it. Hence, the current Cuban government is keeping the media and the people on a tight leash to keep people under control. However, I'm skeptical that the Cuban government will be able to keep this pace of gradual progress once Raul Castro is dead. First of all, the middle / upper class in Cuba is already rising as country steps towards capitalism gradually. This creates an overwhelming angst and desire among the rest of the Cuban population to become rich and to be able to upgrade their quality of living. Secondly, they'll inevitably have to move towards direct-democracy once the charismatic leader Raul Castro (who played a huge role in la Revolution) is gone (in which case I predict the country turning into Yeltsin's Russia not too long after or turning into former communist Eastern European nations which rapidly adopted free market economy without enough preparation (they by the way could use a 'ethnicity / nationalism' card but Cuba doesn't have such racial tension that a government can utilize in galvanizing support from its people) or even if the current Cuban government succeeds in maintaining their political power, it will be hard to keep people's vanity / greed under control (just look at China and Vietnam, if it wasn't for the fast pace of their economic development, the ruling parties in both countries would have been long gone). If the Cuban government loses the tight grip it has on its people (which I believe will happen sooner or later) it will turn into another post-Chavez Venezuela. Surely there are supporters of Maduro and Chavez in Venezuela but there also are significant number of people who are against Chavez-Maduro regime in Venezuela as well. Also, remember the Venezuelan model was only functional when the oil price was high. Well Cuba doesn't even have that so it's going to be even more difficult for the government to maintain the system functional once the government's grip on its people weakens after Raul steps down / passes away.
As for Canada, I'll tell you this. Canadians are only in favor of the universal health care because wealthy Canadians who can afford private health care are able to and almost always do skip the line by traveling down south to the US for their x-rays, surgeries, etc. If Canadians had to choose between living in a society that is equal, sustainable, but poor and a society that is not very equal but where they can improve their qualities of lives by accumulating their wealth, almost 100% of Canadians will choose the latter. Just consider the reason why most Canadians from Atlantic Canada (Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Islands, New Brunswick) moved to Alberta during the oil boom and why now everyone's moving to British Columbia (or even the US).
Hey fellow mongers.
I mentioned in a post below about this event taking place in 2019! No, do not misunderstand me, reason I post this at year's end 2016 is because if I am right it'll be almost impossible to attend these celebrations that will take place then.
So, my heads up, if you are interested in culture (Cuban) I strongly recommend you make plans way in advance and get your reservations lined up so as not to miss out on this event which will prolly take place for the month of November.
Who knows things might change and the future is never certain but again I'll be making my plans on my next visit to reserve the apartment I stay at.
BTW, Kalifornication, I agree with your assessment, problem is most people have an understanding of world events thru the MSM and as you prolly know, there is no other side of the story reporting. It's a sad day when still a whole lot of folks here believe Saddam had WMD's. That's why I have given up trying to argue things out in a civilized manner.
Mondo.
Lucky Nuts
12-30-16, 03:08
I flew into Havana and spent four nights near Plaza Vieja. Found a nice completely independent apartment. This was during the mourning period so I didn't go searching out the clubs as they were reportedly all closed. I contacted a chica that was a friend of another chica I know that has escaped Cuba. She was really pretty, a solid 8. 5, and only 19 years old. However she had a baby two years ago so her stomach was not perfect. But she agreed to deliver all the services I requested for my offer of $60. It was great service from a regular girl. She's studying to be a doctor and has four years left of medical school. Next I called a chica I met in public two years ago and back then we had a great time together. But I decided not to see her because I was disappointed to learn she now has a one year old. Funny story. After texting her I called a few hours later and her dad answered the phone and was trying to facilitate the meeting LOL. I'm still regretting not getting back together with her because her oral skills were excellent as I recall. So I'll probably see her my next trip. Another night I found a cool bicitaxi guy to take me around some streets near usually open clubs where I could find some talent. In short order I picked out a nice one for agreed rate of $50 and she followed behind in a second taxi back to my place. I'm happy to PM the bicitaxi guy phone number to anyone wanting it but really you just need to talk to a few guys and you'll find a good one. My last night I saw a really hot young chica walking down the street with her friend so I joined them and asked where they were going. Turns out she just turned 18 in October. They were going to have a beer at a place where their other girlfriend just started working. We had a beer together there and then I took them both out for dinner so this turned into quite an investment. But this one chica is pretty damn hot. Anyhow I asked her to come over to my place about an hour after dinner. I wanted time to shower and get ready first. She did in fact show up. Again I paid $60 but wasn't full service because she wouldn't do BBBJ. But the sex was great. I want to go back to Havana just to see her. Again she was a regular girl. Has a normal job cutting and styling hair. THIS is the awesome thing about Havana imo. You don't need to walk the malecon and take a hardened pro. You can feel comfortable approaching any chica and expect they will want to know you better and make a few extra bucks.
Beach info: I met up with another hobbiest and joined him for a beach day at Playa Santa Maria about twenty minutes out of town. He was married up with a chica he met a couple days before. Anyhow it's a pretty nice beach not too far from town. Rented chairs for $2 each and had beers delivered for $1. 50 each.
Telephone info: To get a local SIM card you need to bring your passport and wait in line at one of the ETECSA stores. The airport location was closed the evening I arrived. So I had to wait at the very busy Obisbo Street location. Not unusual for the line to be a couple hours wait time. The SIM card cost is $40 which includes $10 of usage. Both calls and texts are charged against your balance. It can be recharged at www.ding.com whch is nice and easy. Personally I wouldn't go without a local phone number so I think it's well worth standing in line for two hours and paying the $40. This ETECSA store is the same place you can buy internet cards for $2/ hour with a three card maximum.
Changing money: There is some demand on the streets for USA Dollars. The going rate seemed to be 95 cuc for 100 USA I opted to take only 93 per 100 USA From a local that I know and trust. So he probably made 2 per 100 for his time and effort. It was worth it to me. The "Casa de Cambio" lines are usually about 30 to 40 minutes in Havana. I know this because I stood in line twice to change euros into cuc. Also I would recommend carrying the locals' currency as well. It goes by several names but "moneda nacional" would be most easily understood. I found out my first morning with a hangover and wanting to buy some orange juice that some small tiendas will only accept the locals' currency. Unlike years ago the casas de cambio are now allowed to distribute moneda nacional to tourists. So you should carry both cuc (pesos convertibles) and moneda nacional (pesos de cubanos).
After Havana I visited a few other towns and cities so I'll write up a report when I have time.
FrankieBallSac
01-01-17, 21:53
Hello mongers,
Happy 2017. I am a seasoned Miami, Florida veteran, I have the prestigious title of the Strip Club Guru given to me by Mondo707 himself LO.
Any-who, noticing how cheap flights have gotten to Cuba especially Miami to Havana I decided to pay this island a visit but haven't decided on any dates yet.
I did my research reading some older posts, if you mongers can add anything I missed it would be greatly appreciated. Basically I'm looking for the pro scene (jinetera) and non-pro scene (nice girls).
Jinetera pro scene clubs:
Las Piedras.
Casa De La Musica.
Fabrica del Arte.
Salon Rojo.
Don Cangrejo.
El Rio Club (Johnnys).
Up Down Club.
La Cecilia.
El Gato Tuerto (in vedado).
Bolabana or bollabao?
Dos Jardenias.
Shangri La.
El Tocororo.
La Gruta.
Regular bars and clubs:
Chateau Hotel pool party on Sundays.
La Terraza.
Where to find regular Non-pro chicks:
Beach.
Cafes and parks in Obispo, Havana Vieja, Prada, Parque Centro, Inglaterra Terrace.
Hello mongers,
Happy 2017. I am a seasoned Miami, Florida veteran, I have the prestigious title of the Strip Club Guru given to me by Mondo707 himself LO.
Any-who, noticing how cheap flights have gotten to Cuba especially Miami to Havana I decided to pay this island a visit but haven't decided on any dates yet.
I did my research reading some older posts, if you mongers can add anything I missed it would be greatly appreciated. Basically I'm looking for the pro scene (jinetera) and non-pro scene (nice girls).
Jinetera pro scene clubs:
Las Piedras.
Casa De La Musica.
Fabrica del Arte.
Salon Rojo.
Don Cangrejo.
El Rio Club (Johnnys).
Up Down Club.
La Cecilia.
El Gato Tuerto (in vedado).
Bolabana or bollabao?
Dos Jardenias.
Shangri La.
El Tocororo.
La Gruta.
Regular bars and clubs:
Chateau Hotel pool party on Sundays.
La Terraza.
Where to find regular Non-pro chicks:
Beach.
Cafes and parks in Obispo, Havana Vieja, Prada, Parque Centro, Inglaterra Terrace.Hey FBS,
I don't know if I gave you that designation but if I did I hope you live up to it. LOL.
BTW, I'll be in la Habana beginning Wednesday the 11th, let me know if you pull the trigger and make in it from Miami. I'll be there for 2 weeks.
I'll buy you a Bucanero or Crystal and maybe we can get lucky and score some chicas while there.
Mondo.
FrankieBallSac
01-03-17, 01:32
BTW, I'll be in la Habana beginning Wednesday the 11th, let me know if you pull the trigger and make in it from Miami. I'll be there for 2 weeks.
I'll buy you a Bucanero or Crystal and maybe we can get lucky and score some chicas while there.
Mondo.Sounds like fun Mondo, my birthday is actually on January 12th that Thursday I had some plans that weekend to do a champagne room and also meet a regular for OTC. But I will definitely keep you posted when I fly. [Deleted by Admin]
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Do you really have to convert some Dollars into CUCs?
Not so long ago, one could get by in Havana with just a wad of dollars. Everyone would not only take, but want Dollars! Chicas, private taxis, private guides, casa particulars, paladares, etc.
Strangely some people have mentioned paying chicas in CUCS. Perhaps, the government has cracked-down on the dollarized economy that had developed.
HappyCamper505
01-04-17, 21:29
Thinking going to Havana week of 7th Jan 2017 any recommendations for girl friendly place to stay near action?
SeanMadden75
01-05-17, 03:39
Frankie,
I am in South Florida as well and have been pondering a trip to Havana. If you need a wingman, I would love to learn the force from you.
Hello mongers,
Happy 2017. I am a seasoned Miami, Florida veteran, I have the prestigious title of the Strip Club Guru given to me by Mondo707 himself LO.
Any-who, noticing how cheap flights have gotten to Cuba especially Miami to Havana I decided to pay this island a visit but haven't decided on any dates yet.
I did my research reading some older posts, if you mongers can add anything I missed it would be greatly appreciated. Basically I'm looking for the pro scene (jinetera) and non-pro scene (nice girls).
Jinetera pro scene clubs:
Las Piedras.
Casa De La Musica.
Fabrica del Arte.
Salon Rojo.
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Do you really have to convert some Dollars into CUCs?
Not so long ago, one could get by in Havana with just a wad of dollars. Everyone would not only take, but want Dollars! Chicas, private taxis, private guides, casa particulars, paladares, etc.
Strangely some people have mentioned paying chicas in CUCS. Perhaps, the government has cracked-down on the dollarized economy that had developed.Yes you need to convert dollars to cuc most of the girls I encounter don't even know the exchange value (outside Havana) no store / bar / restaurant etc will take dollars. As the taxis goes I always rent a car so I have no idea if they take it or not. P.S. You will always get a better rate if you have $100 bills the exchange rate on the st is at 96 and that's the minimum you should exchange at unlemm you are doing it at a cadeca and the. You only getting 87.
Walk Softly
01-06-17, 01:29
Apologies first of all for a really late report.
I arrived on the 7th (Dec) and didn't get to the casa and settled in until about 7:00 pm. Even after a few days in Playa del Carmen, it felt really humid and stinking hot to this northerner.
I decided to walk the Malecon from my casa in Vedado (Thanks for the tip Mondo!) toward old town just to scout out the lay of the land as it were.
I lost track of how many jinteras propositioned me in that walk but it must have been at least 30 including 2 who spoke very good English and weren't that easily put off. Now the first Newb mistake! Tired, hot and a bit footsore, I decided to just rest up the first night and come back to the buffet the next night: The weather went to sh*t the next day. For the next 5 days in Havana, every night that wasn't raining, the wind was driving the surf hard enough to spray over the sea wall sometimes right to the street. No ladies to be seen. On the other hand, I got in lots of time doing most of the touristy things I wanted to do around Havana.
After that, I went touring around for 8 days: Vinales, Trinidad, Cienfuegos and Guanabo before returning to Havana for one last night before flying home. I didn't really try that hard on the road trip in all honesty. Smaller places, non-independent casas and the language barrier but I had a lot of fun anyway doing the tourist thing.
In Guanabo, I was approached by one young cutie while checking my Email in the park. Small, dark and nicely built, after so long with no success, just talking to her had me struggling to hide a rager as she followed me back to the casa I'd rented for the night. Clearly, Nadia had a baby but she was in great shape. Sadly, in my excitement, I agreed to pay her 40 CUC in advance and her performance wasn't on par with her looks. After an okay but not great BBBJ, she covered me up and rode me to a fairly quick finish to round 1. I refused when she asked for 20 more for round 2 but we settled at 10. Making a worse mistake, I gave her that immediately instead of after the fact. After about 15 more minutes she claimed she was too hungry to continue and started dressing. Realizing how bad I'd screwed it up, I declined to argue the point and let her go. Oh well, lesson learned!
Thanks again to all the brothers who gave good advice: They aren't responsible for my mistakes!
Sorry to the guys I was supposed to hook up with while I was there. It took me a few days to get a SIM card for my phone and an internet card. Before I could figure that process out, my phone was stolen and with it all of my WhatsApp and Email contacts. I was pretty unhappy for a couple of days!
All in all, it was still a worthwhile trip and I'm confident it will go better next time though I'm not yet sure when that will be.
Happy New Year all! WS.
MjTravelLove
01-06-17, 02:51
Hi there!
How did it go? Please report back! I am in Havana often but am in need of some fresh input!
Thanks in advance!
MjT.
Hello mongers,
Happy 2017. I am a seasoned Miami, Florida veteran, I have the prestigious title of the Strip Club Guru given to me by Mondo707 himself LO.
Any-who, noticing how cheap flights have gotten to Cuba especially Miami to Havana I decided to pay this island a visit but haven't decided on any dates yet.
I did my research reading some older posts, if you mongers can add anything I missed it would be greatly appreciated. Basically I'm looking for the pro scene (jinetera) and non-pro scene (nice girls).
Jinetera pro scene clubs:
Las Piedras.
Casa De La Musica.
Fabrica del Arte.
Salon Rojo.
Don Cangrejo.
El Rio Club (Johnnys).
Up Down Club.
La Cecilia.
El Gato Tuerto (in vedado).
Bolabana or bollabao?
Dos Jardenias.
Shangri La.
El Tocororo.
La Gruta.
Regular bars and clubs:
Chateau Hotel pool party on Sundays.
La Terraza.
Where to find regular Non-pro chicks:
Beach.
Cafes and parks in Obispo, Havana Vieja, Prada, Parque Centro, Inglaterra Terrace.
MjTravelLove
01-06-17, 02:58
Hi guys!
I have been visiting Havana for 10+ years There used to be a lot of bitching on this board about how things had changed for the worse.
Well, I am there often and I think it's still outstanding. Especially for the non-pros!
About the pros and best places to catch a good fish:
Any fresh input for me?
Best bars to meet pros or non-pros?
Is there really a Sunday pool party somewhere?
What should I be made aware of?
Let me know, folks, and I will report back!
THANKS IN ADVANCE, MATES!
The Tall Man
01-06-17, 03:05
Just saw it on our local news here in LOS Angeles, I believe they said two flights each week and yes direct from LAX to Havana, Cuba. I spent a few weeks in Havana back in August 2015 and glad I visited before the change which is happening now and will forever change the landscape of Cuba for a mongering destination.
TTM.
Just saw it on our local news here in LOS Angeles, I believe they said two flights each week and yes direct from LAX to Havana, Cuba. I spent a few weeks in Havana back in August 2015 and glad I visited before the change which is happening now and will forever change the landscape of Cuba for a mongering destination.
TTM.Hey TTM,
Just to correct on the record, flights to Havana from LAX are daily.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/cities/flights-to/cuba.aspx
Mondo.
Havana Cuba.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19-08A8gbM&t=206s
Hey fellow mongers.
While browsing the web found this place which has tons of info on La Habana. Link below.
I've been getting some PM's about info on things to do while in the city. Go ahead and browse the link and then visit and report back.
http://www.lahabana.com/guide/havana-guide-home/activities/
Mondo.
The Tall Man
01-12-17, 19:50
Hey TTM,
Just to correct on the record, flights to Havana from LAX are daily.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/cities/flights-to/cuba.aspx
Mondo.Daily, even better yet but worse as much more influx of gringo's into Cuba.
TTM.
Hi guys!
I have been visiting Havana for 10+ years There used to be a lot of bitching on this board about how things had changed for the worse.
Well, I am there often and I think it's still outstanding. Especially for the non-pros!
About the pros and best places to catch a good fish:
Any fresh input for me?
Best bars to meet pros or non-pros?
Is there really a Sunday pool party somewhere?
What should I be made aware of?
Let me know, folks, and I will report back!
THANKS IN ADVANCE, MATES!Go to after hours bars / clubs in Miramar. They don't get going until midnight. It's the best of current Havana nightlife. Full of tourists, privileged Cubans (like visiting Cubans from US, or families of privileged officials). Filled to the brim with girls (mosty jinieteras). There are a bunch of these late night places . Ask a taxista. Ill give you one name Mio y Tuyo.
Made it to Havana last week for the first time, flying in from Montreal. I stayed for 4 nights (before hitting the beaches in Varadero). I speak intermediate Spanish, so I spoke mostly Spanish to locals throughout the trip.
I stayed at a casa in San Lazaro just outside Havana Vieja, and ended using the Hotel Deauville as my Wifi Hotspot. I accidentally found myself downstairs at the hotel's club on Wednesday night and found a 19 year old spinner, dark features but lighter skin. I was being propositioned by a taller blond when I spotted her, and since the brunette was more my type I ditched the blond. She wanted 70 CUC, and since I was drunk and not in the mood to negotiate I obliged.
I gave her address to my casa and she followed 5 minutes behind (to avoid being spotted by cops). She showered first then asked for cash up front. After reading posts here I told her no, but we went back and forth. Seeing as that she only had a towel on I capitulated and paid her up front (contrary to all the good advice here). Fortunately she wasn't interested in pulling a runner, so we had kissing, DATY, CBJ (unfortunately). She was tight all over, and so I got one pop in after about 20 minutes. Shortly thereafter she was eager to move on, which I was OK with since I was exhausted.
Following night we made it out to Miramar, it was like a wannabe Miami. Overrated in my opinion. I can't recall the name of the club (Habana "something" but first approach was by a hot voluptuous blonde who asked for 400 CUC! I couldn't believe it, I told her 70 CUC and not a penny more. Of course she high-tailed. I was so disappointed that I left the club after 1 beer. When my friend and I went to get a taxi I was approached by thin, darker girl. We agreed to 80 CUC since she had to come in the cab with me and come 15 minutes. At this point I didn't fuss and took her back. BBBJ, kissing, and fun 30 minutes. She wasn't as good looking as the first but a bit better service. Only bad news here is that I'd snuck her into the casa and got an earful from the Senora the next morning for bringing her in. Oops, no more taking Jinitera's back to the casa.
Two nights later I made it back to Deauville Disco and the selection was not nearly as good. Turns out I got lucky, Wednesday is Lady's night so all the treats come in free. That was the first night I had gone. This was now Friday. Having to pay, there weren't as many options. I found nothing I liked, so I went home empty-handed.
I was not in Cuba solely to monger, but Havana didn't disappoint. After hearing a lot of doomsday here, I was pleasantly surprised by the mongering scene. Probably isn't what it once was, but was better than I anticipated. It helped that there is a beautiful race of girls there, a bit different look than S. Americans. That alone leads my to believe I'll be back to take a deeper look into the local fruits.
I Just finished a short stay in Havana and the action is trickery but doable there. First thing, some Cubans like Smetican and others don't, you will quickly find this out after being quoted quadruple prices by some and local prices on everything from food to taxis from others. Best to just say your Canadian until you get the feel for a person. I don't know how you could be successful here without fluent Spanish if not willing to drop a ton of cash. My advice, rent an apartment outside of Havana vieja in Vededo.
Making sure that the owner does not have a way of seeing when or who leave / come back with. When you check in they will make you register and that any guests must do the same. In my experience the owner really doesn't care just needs some plausible deniability if they get raided by the cops. I struggle initially walking the Malecon and also calls 23 seeing some beautiful women but no one would talk to me, seems like the locals are nervous about talking to tourist because of the risk of being arrested. Finally I sat down at a local bar and had a conversation with another patron. He explained it to me that just about every girl in Havana is willing to spend the night with a foreigner you just have to be overt about it and not worrying about offending anyone and ask their price. The catch is that if the give you a number their a hardened pro, if they act flattered and say they are not into that. Offer to take them to dinner, good food is out of reach for most Cubans. Anyway had this work for me twice one 28 and one 18 both strong 8's, neither asked for money before or after though I made sure their cab fare was paid for in terms of New York prices, voluntarily because even the best paid Cubans make only around 25 $ mo. If You had more time there I would imagine you could probably get into 10's pretty easily using this method even with only decent Spanish.
Muzungufotsy
01-21-17, 16:18
Let me remind you Lost111 that the average Cuban salary is 20 CUC and many people earn even less.
So you are giving a street girl more than 3 months salary for 20 mn sex! Would you do it in your home country?
And then you still pay upfront even though you know you shouldn't do it.
Sure give the girls more power so they can laugh at tourists stupidity even more.
BTW I never had a CBJ in Cuba never.
Jesus no wonder Havana is fucked up now by stupid mongers who don't think.
And of course Cuban girls can ask stupid rates.
400 CUC WTF?
There will still be some who think it s a bargain.
I m glad I enjoyed this country a lot 10 years ago when it was possible to get a girl all night almost for free.
I came back 2 years ago and was still able to get gorgeous mulatas for 20 CUC all night in another city (I won't tell the name of the city here that s for sure).
Muzungufotsy
01-21-17, 21:40
I meant SMoot not Lost111.
RamoneAustin
01-22-17, 00:13
I was thinking about taking a trip to Havana in a few months for my first trip to Cuba before it comes completely ruined and was wondering if any members can give me some advice regarding something. My family has a Cuban friend who has been friends with us for over 15 years and who has family in Havana. She periodically goes back to visit her family there (in fact she is in Havana now). I am Hispanic, can speak Spanish somewhat fairly fluently, and relatively in shape. Our friend is not judgmental, is a realist, and is pragmatic. Anyways I was thinking of asking her if anyone in her family could help me in finding 1 or 2 good casas particulares once I am in Habana and also if any of her relatives there can help me find me find some good "mamitas" (non pros or semi pros) or at least help me get some decent pro jineteras for "non-yuma" prices less than 30 CUC (from I read I think the general consensus is 30 CUC is the max for ST). I know that she will be discrete if she helps me but I was just wondering what people thought? Is asking a family friend for local help to maximize my trip a good idea? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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