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BeersTerry
10-06-18, 21:03
That video is shot behind hotel nacional, you reach it by walking to the malecon down 23. There always has been a party down there. Though one should be careful as there are alot of ladyboys down there too that wander up and down from the Las Vegas.

DarrenGap
10-08-18, 01:50
That video is shot behind hotel nacional, you reach it by walking to the malecon down 23. There always has been a party down there. Though one should be careful as there are alot of ladyboys down there too that wander up and down from the Las Vegas.Yes, the bottom half of 23 is you know. For the other team.

The top half from Sophies is all our crew.

Anyone got any recommends for accommodation for horny single travellers? I'm searching AirBnB etc.

I think its a good area to stay although more central round Hotel Inglaterra may be good as well. I'd like a spacious private entry apartment with good bathroom agua caliente etc, not sure if I need air con. Going first half of November.

Chris H
10-08-18, 12:55
I am in Havana for the first time. Staying there for a few days. Can anybody help me to make best use of my days, to explore the Havana girls at ist best? Also, does anyone know whether there are swinger clubs where singles are also welcomed? Thanks for all your hints and ideas.Yes, there is a Swingers Club in Havana. It's called Swinger Havana, 23 M26, its in the Vedado area. Opens at midnight, best nights to go is Thursday thru Saturday.

And like I mentioned a few months back, Pico Blanco is back open and kicking it. Seems more of a couples spot now, but still plenty of potential single ladies.

MjTravelLove
10-09-18, 04:26
Yes, there is a Swingers Club in Havana. It's called Swinger Havana, 23 M26, its in the Vedado area. Opens at midnight, best nights to go is Thursday thru Saturday.

And like I mentioned a few months back, Pico Blanco is back open and kicking it. Seems more of a couples spot now, but still plenty of potential single ladies.Wow, sorry for misleading, I had no idea. I can't imagine any swinger club in Havana is going to be any good or what you might expect, but I for one will stop by to see is my intuition is indeed accurate.

Thanks for the info.

MjTravelLove
10-09-18, 05:00
Yes, there is a Swingers Club in Havana. It's called Swinger Havana, 23 M26, its in the Vedado area. Opens at midnight, best nights to go is Thursday thru Saturday.

And like I mentioned a few months back, Pico Blanco is back open and kicking it. Seems more of a couples spot now, but still plenty of potential single ladies.Does it accept single males? Have you been? Any more input such as whether it is a good club? THANKS.

Chris H
10-09-18, 09:10
Does it accept single males? Have you been? Any more input such as whether it is a good club? THANKS.Been twice, in May and August. Great time, and they do slow single males, but it's always good to go with someone that is a frequent visitor.

MjTravelLove
10-10-18, 04:52
Been twice, in May and August. Great time, and they do slow single males, but it's always good to go with someone that is a frequent visitor.I'll PM you.

OzzyHead
10-11-18, 20:47
I have a confirmed friendly casa around calle 24. I'm mainly there for P2P but would not mind company if it's available. What is the respectable going rate for companionship for some rum and cokes (*lots of winky emoticons. Capisce?) for a ST & a LT depending on the vibe for quest that's considered reasonable for a US tourist?

OzzyHead
10-11-18, 21:01
I have booked a casa that is "guest friendly". I have asked them if there is a gift that I can give that I can travel with that that is easy to bring but difficult for them to get (they ignored that part but said I can "converse" with a guest at the casa particular) but I want to award them for their accommodations. Any recommendations for a gift for future goodwill in our hobby?

Mr Gogo
10-11-18, 21:49
I have booked a casa that is "guest friendly". I have asked them if there is a gift that I can give that I can travel with that that is easy to bring but difficult for them to get (they ignored that part but said I can "converse" with a guest at the casa particular) but I want to award them for their accommodations. Any recommendations for a gift for future goodwill in our hobby?I'm guessing that your inquiry about " Guest friendly" has them a little nervous but they needed the sale so they told you what you wanted to hear but now they backtrack and say you can converse with guests. Cubans are very cautious and sometimes you have to just understand and let things roll. Cubans don't like to be asked questions especially if it defies the system.

DarrenGap
10-12-18, 00:48
Has anyone experience of the hotel secotel carribbean, Paseo del Prado. I've got a couple of nights there before I arrange an appropriate casa probably in vedado close to av 23.

Seems like centro and habana viejo goes to sleep after midnight, so where are the best clubs. La rampa and vedado seems the best area.

I vaguely remember a couple of years ago going to a club st. Peters or petro's or something, a house out in the burbs, great times lots of chica's but on account of the alcohol can't remember what it was really called.

Anyone else recall it? Is it still going?

OzzyHead
10-12-18, 01:58
I'm guessing that your inquiry about " Guest friendly" has them a little nervous but they needed the sale so they told you what you wanted to hear but now they backtrack and say you can converse with guests. Cubans are very cautious and sometimes you have to just understand and let things roll. Cubans don't like to be asked questions especially if it defies the system.If I meet someone, can I take them back to the apartment to socialize or do I just need to talk to people in cafes and bars? I would never want a party or loud music. I am respectful and I would not violate your rules.

I was given the green light by 2/3 hosts that I contacted. Obviously if I brought a guest back for some Cuba libres we would just hang out and discuss the finer arts like 80's heavy metal and pro wrestling. (I don't see an issue).

Mr Gogo
10-12-18, 06:23
If I meet someone, can I take them back to the apartment to socialize or do I just need to talk to people in cafes and bars? I would never want a party or loud music. I am respectful and I would not violate your rules.

I was given the green light by 2/3 hosts that I contacted. Obviously if I brought a guest back for some Cuba libres we would just hang out and discuss the finer arts like 80's heavy metal and pro wrestling. (I don't see an issue).What I'm saying is just because they say "Guest friendly" doesn't mean that the casa owner won't show up with a book to log your guest in. Casa owners are a mixed bag, some are hands on, others are not. Hopefully yours us not.

NamasteParis
10-12-18, 19:24
I have booked a casa that is "guest friendly". I have asked them if there is a gift that I can give that I can travel with that that is easy to bring but difficult for them to get (they ignored that part but said I can "converse" with a guest at the casa particular) but I want to award them for their accommodations. Any recommendations for a gift for future goodwill in our hobby?When asked if you can bring local guests, you'll be always answered politely "no" (1/3) or "yes" (2/3).

But the yes ALWAYS means that you register the guest in the casa logbook (see previous posts), and often, no more than one chica per night, and very often, you'll be strongly suggested not to change girl every night. The difficulty is to find a chica ready to register.

As said before, go with the flow, and follow the chica at "her" casa, or any other place suggested from locals, after few intel. Cuba is very safe.

DarrenGap
10-13-18, 00:45
Has anyone experience of the hotel secotel carribbean, Paseo del Prado. I've got a couple of nights there before I arrange an appropriate casa probably in vedado close to av 23.

Seems like centro and habana viejo goes to sleep after midnight, so where are the best clubs. La rampa and vedado seems the best area.

I vaguely remember a couple of years ago going to a club st. Peters or petro's or something, a house out in the burbs, great times lots of chica's but on account of the alcohol can't remember what it was really called.

Anyone else recall it? Is it still going?OK I googled and finally found a picture of the place. Its Las Piedras. I recall plenty of upmarket chicas. Is it still running til the early hours?

OzzyHead
10-13-18, 03:38
What I'm saying is just because they say "Guest friendly" doesn't mean that the casa owner won't show up with a book to log your guest in. Casa owners are a mixed bag, some are hands on, others are not. Hopefully yours us not.Thanks. That is not something that I considered.

OzzyHead
10-15-18, 05:57
If I am approached by someone along The Malecon with an offer that interests me, where do we go. And how safe is it in general? Any tips or advice. I am an imposing figure, and do not look like an easy mark by any means, but my Spanish is very minimal and I'm not on home court. Normally I prefer to control my environment. Is following someone to a local casa of their choosing a big mistake?

MadisonGuy
10-15-18, 15:37
T minus 4 days to my Havana trip. I'm a little more excited about this trip than most trips I've taken. Perhaps since it was the forbidden fruit for so long as a US citizen. I have a girl lined up from internet just in case I can't find anything to my liking. We will be hitting up the normal spots, but I've told my buddy we should try the university and see how that works out for us. I like the larger selection. Just wondering if anyone knows if Fantaxy is still open? That's one of the clubs on my visit list, hoping to meet a Castro.

Pokeris
10-15-18, 17:54
T minus 4 days to my Havana trip. I'm a little more excited about this trip than most trips I've taken. Perhaps since it was the forbidden fruit for so long as a US citizen. I have a girl lined up from internet just in case I can't find anything to my liking. We will be hitting up the normal spots, but I've told my buddy we should try the university and see how that works out for us. I like the larger selection. Just wondering if anyone knows if Fantaxy is still open? That's one of the clubs on my visit list, hoping to meet a Castro.Fantaxy still open I have them on my facebook and they uploading new pic from events every week. You can look it on facebook just put on search fantaxy bar.

MadisonGuy
10-15-18, 19:38
Fantaxy still open I have them on my facebook and they uploading new pic from events every week. You can look it on facebook just put on search fantaxy bar.Thanks man, I actually found nothing on them in a google search. Some amazing talent in those photos, wow.

Combo
10-15-18, 19:56
If I am approached by someone along The Malecon with an offer that interests me, where do we go. And how safe is it in general? Any tips or advice. I am an imposing figure, and do not look like an easy mark by any means, but my Spanish is very minimal and I'm not on home court. Normally I prefer to control my environment. Is following someone to a local casa of their choosing a big mistake?I would say generally you're safe going to their choice of casa. Crime against tourists (other than simple theft) isn't that common in Cuba. If a Cubano gets caught doing something to a tourist, it's over for them.

MadisonGuy
10-15-18, 22:22
Has anyone here ever done the VIP bottle service in Havana clubs? Wondering if it's the same price as in the US or not. In these higher end clubs are the bottle girls and stuff pretty easy to take out?

MjTravelLove
10-16-18, 04:18
Hi Guys.

I'll be back in Havana any day now. Please tell me: what are the best spots for hunting chicas right now??

IN your opinion, which bars / areas of Old Havana?

Which areas and times along the Malecon?

What bars and ares in VEdado?

THANKS GUYS. I will report back after my journey.

MjT.

James 006
10-16-18, 07:05
My best friend is in Cuba now and announces that the pretty ladies at the clubs in Vedado insist on 100 CUC and more. Is this standard now? And rich tourists pay this happily?

Chris H
10-16-18, 07:42
My best friend is in Cuba now and announces that the pretty ladies at the clubs in Vedado insist on 100 CUC and more. Is this standard now? And rich tourists pay this happily?Not normal at all. That price is for suckas.

MadisonGuy
10-16-18, 11:26
My best friend is in Cuba now and announces that the pretty ladies at the clubs in Vedado insist on 100 CUC and more. Is this standard now? And rich tourists pay this happily?If they're super hot high end girls 100 isn't bad. I paid 40-200 in DR, just depends on location and quality sometimes but not always. If the girl would go for $500 in the US, I definitely don't think $100 would be a rich tourist price.

Catire
10-16-18, 15:45
If they're super hot high end girls 100 isn't bad. I paid 40-200 in DR, just depends on location and quality sometimes but not always. If the girl would go for $500 in the US, I definitely don't think $100 would be a rich tourist price.They "insist" on it because they find enough people who will pay it. Whether it's idiotic to pay that price for a hot Cuban girl depends on the girl and the fool with whose money she is parting.

Cuba is full of hot women. Of course, many of them aren't selling themselves period and many of those who are, are not openly doing it in Vedado nightclubs populated by horny tourists.

So do what makes you happy (and "super hot" is in eye of beholder) (and super hot in looks doesn't mean super hot in bed).

So many variables.

MadisonGuy
10-16-18, 17:35
They "insist" on it because they find enough people who will pay it. Whether it's idiotic to pay that price for a hot Cuban girl depends on the girl and the fool with whose money she is parting.

Cuba is full of hot women. Of course, many of them aren't selling themselves period and many of those who are, are not openly doing it in Vedado nightclubs populated by horny tourists.

So do what makes you happy (and "super hot" is in eye of beholder) (and super hot in looks doesn't mean super hot in bed).

So many variables.There tends to be 2 types of mongers in the world, ones that put performance ahead of looks. And ones that put looks ahead of performance. I get caught with this in reviews in USA all the time where I show up expecting at least an 8 and she ends up being a 6 if I'm kind.

You could look at it as a fool paying $100, or you could look at it like the guy who thinks $100 is a lot of money is a fool. I negotiated when I was a young pup, but now that I'm in my mid 30's I realize I don't care about the $40 or whatever I might save if it starts the night off with me already basically saying she's not worth very much. Typically when I consider accommodations, food, usually gambling in most countries, touristy stuff, and all the crap I bring to give to kids, the $100 or even $500 for a girl is the cheapest part of my trip.

To each their own, but if I see a super hottie I have to have doing bottle service in the club I have no problem throwing out any number under $1000. I think that's being frugal considering my best friend mongering has about a 5 k / month habit. If I had more time I would work the freebie relationships but my time is too valuable right now to do that.

NamasteParis
10-16-18, 18:48
If the girl would go for $500 in the US, I definitely don't think $100 would be a rich tourist price.Yes, 100 $ is a ridiculous price in Cuba that only an idiot would pay.

Again and again, the same wrong mindset. The correct price is the correct price in the country where you stay, and definitly not where you come from. When you travel, forget your standards, make some intel, and adapt.

MadisonGuy
10-16-18, 18:54
Yes, 100 $ is a ridiculous price in Cuba that only an idiot would pay.

Again and again, the same wrong mindset. The correct price is the correct price in the country where you stay, and definitly not where you come from. When you travel, forget your standards, make some intel, and adapt.The correct price is someone selling something for a price another is willing to purchase it for. I'm not going to forget my standards because I'm on vacation, and I'm not going to turn down something I really want because she's asking a little more than all the other girls. That's not the life I live in. There's girls in the US for $20 and girls for over $100,000. That's life, I am happy to pay more and get what I want.

NamasteParis
10-16-18, 18:58
The correct price is someone selling something for a price another is willing to purchase it for.With 100 $, you're definitely OTC (Over The Counter), and not in a regulated market LOL.

Dave1111
10-16-18, 22:10
Hi gents,

Its been a few years since I was last in Havana. My casa is booked just off calle 23 and I will be going soon. Can you give me a list of places to go at night. I am looking for cool bars with some action. I am over 40 so not a massive nightclub fan. I did go to a fantastic club in a house on calle 13 near avenida Los presidentes, does anyone know the name of it as I can't remember the exact location. A top little club full of Cubans with money and high end freelancers. With regards to the internet are their any sites like Tinder etc that can be used. Also when I was there you could pay 15 CUC for a day pass to the gym and pool at the National (you got a free pool meal and drink with that included), do you know of any other hotels around there that do the same.

Take it easy.

Cheers.

Chris H
10-16-18, 22:11
Yes, 100 $ is a ridiculous price in Cuba that only an idiot would pay.

Again and again, the same wrong mindset. The correct price is the correct price in the country where you stay, and definitly not where you come from. When you travel, forget your standards, make some intel, and adapt.Perfect post, these guys over paying are the ones ruining the market, and in the long run, the chicas are the ones that will suffer, when the volume of clients goes way down. We will find the pussy in many countries for the right price, the chicas are the ones that have to stay in HAV, and be even more broke.

Catire
10-16-18, 22:19
Perfect post, these guys over paying are the ones ruining the market, and in the long run, the chicas are the ones that will suffer, when the volume of clients goes way down. We will find the pussy in many countries for the right price, the chicas are the ones that have to stay in HAV, and be even more broke.Though I agree with yours and Namaste's sentiments on this matter, if I wanted to be cheeky. I could argue that "the market" is never set and always "fluctuates".

Ergo, if an influx of dumb money floods the market, prices will be driven up in a speculative bubble just as they would be in any other market. And indeed one day the bubble may burst. Or that particular market will remain spectacularly overpriced for an extended period of time.

So, value driven P4 P investors will have to look to invest elsewhere. - in this instance. Outside of Vedado nightclubs, etc. It is true that too many markets such as Vedado nightclubs may ultimately destroy the asset class altogether (in this instance, Cuba) - but such is the way of markets. Sigh.

old Cuba hands may remember that for e.g. 20 years ago, you could score tons of girls off the Malecon, or in front of Rivera Hotel, etc. fresh, non pro, eager and tigresses in bed all night long (and beyond) For 20-30 USD. but even then you could also go to the Comodoro in Miramar where girls would be showing off in their best dresses, for tourists who would pay their 100 USD short time price tag. The experienced eye also noted all of their Cuban chulo boyfriends who parked their motorbikes in areas outside.. where they would drink, gamble, etc and wait while their girls were making them their money

DarrenGap
10-16-18, 22:26
Though I agree with yours and Namaste's sentiments on this matter, if I wanted to be cheeky. I could argue that "the market" is never set and always "fluctuates".

Ergo, if an influx of dumb money floods the market, prices will be driven up in a speculative bubble just as they would be in any other market. And indeed one day the bubble may burst. Or that particular market will remain spectacularly overpriced for an extended period of time.

So, value driven P4 P investors will have to look to invest elsewhere. - in this instance. Outside of Vedado nightclubs, etc. It is true that too many markets such as Vedado nightclubs may ultimately destroy the asset class altogether (in this instance, Cuba) - but such is the way of markets. Sigh.Couple of years ago I paid $10 each for 2 girls out of a bar in La Rampa (around closing time so they had less options). In fact I was embarrassed to pay so little as they were sweeties. So I passed them $20 each everyone was happy.

Here's hopping it hasn't doubled since 2016.

Catire
10-16-18, 22:52
Couple of years ago I paid $10 each for 2 girls out of a bar in La Rampa (around closing time so they had less options). In fact I was embarrassed to pay so little as they were sweeties. So I passed them $20 each everyone was happy.

Here's hopping it hasn't doubled since 2016.

well, first of all, I don't consider Tikoa or La Gruta as "Vedado nightclubs in the context of the previous posts. Yes, they are nightclubs in Vedado but they were always the so called "lower/est" tier ones. The dude willing to pay up for "hot girls" was thinking of other places..you know.. where the girl wears an expensive dress, so you pay extra so she can wear/afford to wear that dress and that makeup.

You got lucky. Pricing was more or less 30-40 CUC while you were there. First of all, LaRampa (the area outside of old Tikoa and La Gruta, etc) is a super well known spot for girls and is heavily policed.

The girls walking around that area all run the risk of being stopped and busted by a cop. If I were one of them I would have to charge extra just to have potential bribe money if necessary. (if possible).

You will notice that no tourist / non Cuban leaves the area walking with any of these girls off to any casa, or even taxi because the girls are all well known to the cops who work that "beat"/ area.

They will tell you to walk to where ever you are going alone. And they will follow you. Slowly. 5 minutes later.

And even then, when walking alone somewhere. They're likely to be stopped. Because the cops all know them.

But they can't necessarily be busted. Because there is no clear evidence they are hooking. Everyone knows they are, including cops, but they can't prove it.

So most of the time they are hassled, but not arrested.

DarrenGap
10-16-18, 23:24
well, first of all, I don't consider Tikoa or La Gruta as "Vedado nightclubs in the context of the previous posts. Yes, they are nightclubs in Vedado but they were always the so called "lower/est" tier ones. The dude willing to pay up for "hot girls" was thinking of other places..you know.. where the girl wears an expensive dress, so you pay extra so she can wear/afford to wear that dress and that makeup.

You got lucky. Pricing was more or less 30-40 CUC while you were there. First of all, LaRampa (the area outside of old Tikoa and La Gruta, etc) is a super well known spot for girls and is heavily policed.

The girls walking around that area all run the risk of being stopped and busted by a cop. If I were one of them I would have to charge extra just to have potential bribe money if necessary. (if possible).

You will notice that no tourist / non Cuban leaves the area walking with any of these girls off to any casa, or even taxi because the girls are all well known to the cops who work that "beat"/ area.

They will tell you to walk to where ever you are going alone. And they will follow you. Slowly. 5 minutes later.

And even then, when walking alone somewhere. They're likely to be stopped. Because the cops all know them.

But they can't necessarily be busted. Because there is no clear evidence they are hooking. Everyone knows they are, including cops, but they can't prove it.

So most of the time they are hassled, but not arrested.Yes I got lucky for sure. It was closing time they were coming out of the bar, ID been in sophies and saw the cops chasing away some girsl, but then they were nowhere to be seen and it was late and I needed to score some company. The girls were leaving for the evening, but they were cute, we had to hustle to a cab and drive out to some case no idea where. We didn't hang about on the street together for sure, that's a no-no in Cuba.

For an hour of fun the price was right.

I could pay more to get some pretend fake looks, or some attitude, or mess around with dating sites or facebook, call her or whatever, but what a bore. Much rather have a coffee, check out the goods and make a purchase.

P.S. Another night out of sophie I got a fairly hardcore 22 year old, fantastic natural tits, nothing off limits, all great for around $40.

Yes I didn't want to spend the evening with her, no we didn't talk at any length, there was none of this feckwitted "I love her" shit but she screwed me senseless for $40. Does what it says on the tin, no more no less.

Later went at Las Piedras, girls were much more entitled wanting $60-100+ and were better dressed, but actually didn't play that game, although to be fair I went after the hardcore puta had sucked me dry, so was a bit mellow.

Can someone list the active "high end" clubs and bars so I can set my price expectations accordingly?

MadisonGuy
10-16-18, 23:37
Perfect post, these guys over paying are the ones ruining the market, and in the long run, the chicas are the ones that will suffer, when the volume of clients goes way down. We will find the pussy in many countries for the right price, the chicas are the ones that have to stay in HAV, and be even more broke.I have a bridge to sell you if you actually believe that. Markets go up everywhere with popularity and they still stay great and busy. Plenty of girls in the US charging $1200 an hour that probably make a hell of a lot more than you in a year. Many places have went up in price, that's life. You can feel bad for the guy that gives a girl her asking price, I'm sure he will feel bad for you wasting valuable time negotiating over 10-50 dollars. I use to negotiate, it sucks and already makes me less interested in them because they become my enemy. If you have time to do that you're better off just meeting real girls for free. I pay girls to leave and to not have to feed them lines of bullshit. It's well worth it.

Questner
10-17-18, 04:28
I have a bridge to sell you if you actually believe that. Markets go up everywhere with popularity and they still stay great and busy. Plenty of girls in the US charging $1200 an hour that probably make a hell of a lot more than you in a year. Many places have went up in price, that's life. You can feel bad for the guy that gives a girl her asking price, I'm sure he will feel bad for you wasting valuable time negotiating over 10-50 dollars. I use to negotiate, it sucks and already makes me less interested in them because they become my enemy. If you have time to do that you're better off just meeting real girls for free. I pay girls to leave and to not have to feed them lines of bullshit. It's well worth it.This is how it may happen. You get into the club and see a couple of 10's in looks, the type you can't even find working in your home country. You buy yourself a drink, look around for a competition and you know instantly unless you make an acceptable offer now, these beauties will be snatched away from you by some group of younger arrogant dudes from the continent. So, you pay 'la cien'. You won't regret paying. Maybe next morning you will screw a mulata for a fraction of yesterdays hundred and she will deliver 100%, you still won't regret your last night move.

DarrenGap
10-17-18, 09:16
I have a bridge to sell you if you actually believe that. Markets go up everywhere with popularity and they still stay great and busy. Plenty of girls in the US charging $1200 an hour that probably make a hell of a lot more than you in a year. Many places have went up in price, that's life. You can feel bad for the guy that gives a girl her asking price, I'm sure he will feel bad for you wasting valuable time negotiating over 10-50 dollars. I use to negotiate, it sucks and already makes me less interested in them because they become my enemy. If you have time to do that you're better off just meeting real girls for free. I pay girls to leave and to not have to feed them lines of bullshit. It's well worth it.Its been my experience that very often if you pay a girl exactly what she asks immediately she's more likely to think you a complete rube and her contempt for you will show up in her performance and attitude towards you during her session with you. And that often leads to further demands for cash during the service.

I'm not saying to nickel and dime her but any tradesman anywhere on planet earth expects as bit of negotiation before agreement about the services they're offering.

Chris H
10-17-18, 12:17
Couple of years ago I paid $10 each for 2 girls out of a bar in La Rampa (around closing time so they had less options). In fact I was embarrassed to pay so little as they were sweeties. So I passed them $20 each everyone was happy.

Here's hopping it hasn't doubled since 2016.Nope, prices haven't doubled at all. Was just there in August, and didn't pay more than 30 cuc, for beautful, thick chicks, no rush. I will be making my 10th visit in a 18 month time span next month, and have never paid more than 40 cuc for the so called, dressed up superstars.

The norm that I pay is 20 cuc, and at times I feel generous and give more.

Uncle Volodya
10-17-18, 12:36
Sorry I meant to send this as a PM. Damned phone....

MadisonGuy
10-17-18, 14:17
Its been my experience that very often if you pay a girl exactly what she asks immediately she's more likely to think you a complete rube and her contempt for you will show up in her performance and attitude towards you during her session with you. And that often leads to further demands for cash during the service.

I'm not saying to nickel and dime her but any tradesman anywhere on planet earth expects as bit of negotiation before agreement about the services they're offering.I use to kind of think that same thing. But I've seen no difference in performance, you get winners and you get losers that's part of the gamble. But I don't see that look of screw you anytime I am told 100 and I throw back 40. For me it's not worth it. I've never really seen negotiations pay off that much, I would need to save thousands of dollars per trip for it to make sense to me and maybe at most total I will save 1,000. Now when I was single and liked playing the game, my favorite thing was picking up working girls for free. I had it down to an art and had some stellar performances from it. This is obviously back when I use to negotiate, I have no desire to play these games anymore. Say I'm in Del Rey, Costa Rica. If I saw a girl sitting by herself I'd go up to her and long story short she'd ask if I want to go to hotel and I'd tell her I don't do that kind of thing my friends made me come there and left me. I'm looking for love. That alone never did the trick if she was a 10, but there's a few more steps and every time I would create a stage three clinger. It was fun, but now I'm more of a get it and get out kind of guy. After thousands of girls I have no desire to waste all the time.

To each their own, I did love negotiating at one point. But it doesn't matter you can't stop someone who makes 500 k a year from throwing away $100 like it's nothing because it is then. There will always be people who pay more and people who pay less.

GrownMan1
10-17-18, 15:00
How much a man should pay for p4 p is always a subject of debate. But listening to some comments reminds me of my mother buying a car.

My mother wanted to Nissan she was stuck on it. She knew how much she could afford. She went to the Nissan dealership and they showed her a very nice Maxima. It had all the bells and whistles that she thought she wanted. They gave her a price and told her payments and she knew she could afford it. Then she called me before she signed the bottom line. I went and checked out the car and it was nice. However the dealer had marked up the price $9000 more than the highest retail value. Yes they seen my mother coming a mile away and took advantage of her lack of knowledge.

My mother was in love with the car and still wanted to get it. Her rationale was she used to making those type of pavements for a vehicle and she didn't want to waste time all week going from dealer to dealer ship.

Mr Enternational
10-17-18, 17:30
How much a man should pay for p4 p is always a subject of debate. But listening to some comments reminds me of my mother buying a car.Well I approach P4P the exact same way. My mom was buying a car. I looked up how much the car she wanted was going for IN THE SAME AREA. I was not going to think about and look up prices in California. That is irrelevant when Georgia is concerned. I told her to go check out the particular car and bring a check with her. When it comes time to discuss price, you offer them a check for $1000 less than what I looked up.

When I go somewhere for P4P for the first time, I look on ISG to see what the chicks are going for. I don't think about what they are going for back home. That shit is irrelevant. When I get on the scene and find the chick I want, I will offer them less than what I see people on ISG reporting. Then I report that I got a chick there for a lower price or without buying drinks, or had no problem paying after, and everyone wants to assert that I got an inferior chick. LOL. No mf, I just do my homework and know how to negotiate. I am not running up there trying to pay more than I have to because of how much I like a hooker or because of how much something costs in another place. And I am most definitely not trying to impress any hookers or women in general for that matter. My attitude is that they should be trying to impress me.

You go to the dealer and make him show you why you should buy from him versus the dealer down the street. You don't go to the dealer trying to impress them and butter them up like a lot of guys insist on doing with hookers. That just goes over my head.

NamasteParis
10-17-18, 18:57
Well I approach P4P the exact same way. My mom was buying a car. I looked up how much the car she wanted was going for IN THE SAME AREA. I was not going to think about and look up prices in California. That is irrelevant when Georgia is concerned. I told her to go check out the particular car and bring a check with her. When it comes time to discuss price, you offer them a check for $1000 less than what I looked up.

When I go somewhere for P4P for the first time, I look on ISG to see what the chicks are going for. I don't think about what they are going for back home. That shit is irrelevant. When I get on the scene and find the chick I want, I will offer them less than what I see people on ISG reporting. Then I report that I got a chick there for a lower price or without buying drinks, or had no problem paying after, and everyone wants to assert that I got an inferior chick. LOL. No mf, I just do my homework and know how to negotiate. I am not running up there trying to pay more than I have to because of how much I like a hooker or because of how much something costs in another place. And I am most definitely not trying to impress any hookers or women in general for that matter. My attitude is that they should be trying to impress me.

You go to the dealer and make him show you why you should buy from him versus the dealer down the street. You don't go to the dealer trying to impress them and butter them up like a lot of guys insist on doing with hookers. That just goes over my head.May I add some comment you just made in another forum? Common sense. Oh well.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2236476&viewfull=1#post2236476

RacShack
10-17-18, 19:06
Bla bla bla, has any one answer op questions, always same shit, a lot of bullshit and not one person ever help anybody out!,so glad my eyes finally opened up and seen their is actually sites out their that actually help each other out; not the same 5-10 people that do nothing for anybody!

MadisonGuy
10-17-18, 19:12
You guys are comparing cars for thousands to girls for 30-100. And also lots of guys here are happy for their $30 ford festiva and I am willing to pay for my Ferrari. Although that analogy leaves some opening because one car performs better. I could care less about performance in the bed, I just want super hot classy high end girls. I don't really notice a difference between negotiating and not, except in their face during negotiation. But it's not worth the time to save such a small amount of money, I've lost too many super hot girls and over money that I'd basically wipe my ass with. Some guys will negotiate and some guys won't, that's part of the trade. The income levels in this group probably range from 40 k a year to over a million, you can't expect some guy pulling in crazy money to care about an extra $50. More power to the girls for making the most they can with each person. I've got far more money invested in things I'm giving away to kids and the community in Cuba than I will spend on girls there. Maybe instead of worrying about the guys who you think might be ruining it, just make more money so you don't care if a girl costs 20 or 400 dollars. Super easy solution and everyone wins.

DcGogo
10-17-18, 21:33
I could care less about performance in the bed, I just want super hot classy high end girls.That statement right there.

That's like a car collector that has a hangar full of classic and high-end cars and you ask him do you ever drive them and he says "hell I don't even know if they have engines".

Mr Enternational
10-17-18, 21:35
You guys are comparing cars for thousands to girls for 30-100. And also lots of guys here are happy for their $30 ford festiva and I am willing to pay for my Ferrari. That is where the point is missed. One guy thinks he is paying for a Ferrari, when he is actually paying Ferrari prices for the Ford Festiva. Nobody in here believes that he or the next guy will go broke paying $40 more than he should, but why do it?

If you went into a steak restaurant and the guy next to you is eating a ribeye and you ask how much it was and he says $30, you then ask for a menu and in it the 30 is crossed out and has 50 next to it, surely you are not going to say it is only $20 and I only have an hour for lunch. You are going to ask why is the 30 crossed out? This guy next to me just said he paid 30 and in this menu the 30 is crossed out and you have put 50.

For some reason people seem to get offended when someone tells them they could or should get the same pussy for less. I was in Cambodia in February. My buddy fucked a chick for $40. I asked him why he gave her so much. To prove a point, the next day I fucked the same chick and gave her $25. He did not say he bought a Ferrari and I bought a Festiva. He did not say well it is my money and I spend it how I want to. He did not say I am only here 3 days and it is only $15. What he did was the next day he got the same chick again for the $25 that he should have given her the first day!

DarrenGap
10-17-18, 23:14
That is where the point is missed. One guy thinks he is paying for a Ferrari, when he is actually paying Ferrari prices for the Ford Festiva. Nobody in here believes that he or the next guy will go broke paying $40 more than he should, but why do it?

If you went into a steak restaurant and the guy next to you is eating a ribeye and you ask how much it was and he says $30, you then ask for a menu and in it the 30 is crossed out and has 50 next to it, surely you are not going to say it is only $20 and I only have an hour for lunch. You are going to ask why is the 30 crossed out? This guy next to me just said he paid 30 and in this menu the 30 is crossed out and you have put 50.

For some reason people seem to get offended when someone tells them they could or should get the same pussy for less. I was in Cambodia in February. My buddy fucked a chick for $40. I asked him why he gave her so much. To prove a point, the next day I fucked the same chick and gave her $25. He did not say he bought a Ferrari and I bought a Festiva. He did not say well it is my money and I spend it how I want to. He did not say I am only here 3 days and it is only $15. What he did was the next day he got the same chick again for the $25 that he should have given her the first day!Lets move on from the car analogy. It doesn't make much sense to me (although I hope someone's Mom didn't pay $9000 too much).

Some folks think they buy chica affection & performance in a linear manner, the more they pay, the more they get. Quite simply it doesn't and they don't. The girl will have a rate she's happy to accept she may ask $100 accept $60. Paying over that point won't really buy anything other than making the girl think you're a mark. When they pitch high, they're actually asking "Are you a rube, do you know what the market price is, are you likely to give me $100's dollars above what I actually expect? They may put out a price after they; ve asked how long you've been in the country translation: "how much do you know? Where are you staying? Translation: if its an expensive hotel, then the price quoted goes waaay up.

She's on a mission with a desire to earn a certain amount. Friendly negotiation helps identify what that price is. And we shouldn't push past that price downwards, that's where the bad blood comes from. Taking advantage of these girls in their eyes (in this context) is paying too little. Plus the negotiations should give the keen eyed monger an indicator on her attitude and outlook.

Good service should be rewarded with a tip or gift etc.

Of course I'm referring to the p4 p workers here, not civilians. Different rules apply.

So having said all that for clarity where are the most expensive joints in Havana and where do the girls go when the night is over there assuming MadisonGuy wasn't there "making it rain".

MadisonGuy
10-18-18, 00:25
That is where the point is missed. One guy thinks he is paying for a Ferrari, when he is actually paying Ferrari prices for the Ford Festiva. Nobody in here believes that he or the next guy will go broke paying $40 more than he should, but why do it?

If you went into a steak restaurant and the guy next to you is eating a ribeye and you ask how much it was and he says $30, you then ask for a menu and in it the 30 is crossed out and has 50 next to it, surely you are not going to say it is only $20 and I only have an hour for lunch. You are going to ask why is the 30 crossed out? This guy next to me just said he paid 30 and in this menu the 30 is crossed out and you have put 50.

For some reason people seem to get offended when someone tells them they could or should get the same pussy for less. I was in Cambodia in February. My buddy fucked a chick for $40. I asked him why he gave her so much. To prove a point, the next day I fucked the same chick and gave her $25. He did not say he bought a Ferrari and I bought a Festiva. He did not say well it is my money and I spend it how I want to. He did not say I am only here 3 days and it is only $15. What he did was the next day he got the same chick again for the $25 that he should have given her the first day!The steak might be a little closer, but here's the thing I'm not asking what the rate is to the guy next to me at a steak house. Just like I'm not coming on here anymore asking what going rates are because I don't care. If I want something I know how much I will pay for it, doesn't matter what others pay for it. I certainly would not get mad or offended if someone got the same girl for less money. I was giving out coach and MK purses that costed 2-400 last trip to DR, I didn't need to do it. I wasn't doing it to get better service, in fact one girl I used that line on because I saw someone on here say they did it. I gave her the you make this night stellar and you will get this, well 30 minutes later I decided that was kind of stupid and just gave it to her. I enjoy the look on their faces, just like when I go to the villages and give the kids toys and candy. It's giving someone something that is way beyond what they think they would ever get. I had a 5 some in Sosua and 3 of the girls were only 2000 but it was such a blast I gave them more than that in a tip. I don't expect more, I just enjoy giving I guess and don't think guys who don't want to worry about price should feel they need to negotiate. PLenty of people don't negotiate in life, that's part of my job and I certainly don't want to do it on vacation.

DarrenGap
10-18-18, 01:14
I'm thinking of hitting playas des estes on the weekend during my Nov trip.

As well as getting a mild tan I'd like to bump into a willing chica and spend the pm getting my pinga polished.

Is there any particular part of the town or beach I should choose? I've had food at a beachside restaurante ranchon don pepe but the beach was pretty deserted a couple of years ago.

Am I in right area for this, I guess weekends is higher beach body count?

Is there a centre or bar I can hang out in?

Will the local chicas have a place we can go to for a quickie?

Don't want to reside overnight, I'll return to vedado in the pm, unless I'm missing some unreal evening entertainment. If members know of any please share details.

TonyLemor
10-18-18, 02:12
Does anyone know of websites that stays current on upcoming musical shows etc in Havana. Thanks so much in advance for any help.

Mondo707
10-18-18, 07:06
Does anyone know of websites that stays current on upcoming musical shows etc in Havana. Thanks so much in advance for any help.Hey Tony,

I usually check out la Papeleta (link below) they seem to list lots of cultural stuff / activities. It's en Espaņol but you can prolly understand most of it.

http://www.lapapeleta.cult.cu/

Also, if you are fluent en Espaņol, Radio Taino on the web gives out all the daily happenings around la Habana and in some cases around the island. I think they usually announce these on the hour. Link below.

http://www.radiotaino.icrt.cu/web/site/audiodemanda

You are welcome.

Mondo.

Ty Down
10-18-18, 15:38
I'm thinking of hitting playas des estes on the weekend during my Nov trip.

As well as getting a mild tan I'd like to bump into a willing chica and spend the pm getting my pinga polished.

Is there any particular part of the town or beach I should choose? I've had food at a beachside restaurante ranchon don pepe but the beach was pretty deserted a couple of years ago.

Am I in right area for this, I guess weekends is higher beach body count?

Is there a centre or bar I can hang out in?

Will the local chicas have a place we can go to for a quickie?

Don't want to reside overnight, I'll return to vedado in the pm, unless I'm missing some unreal evening entertainment. If members know of any please share details.I visited Playa del este back in February, it was pretty much dead. Beautiful beach though, there was a couple chicas walking around but also several police, most were wearing plain clothes but it was obvious that they were watching every move we made, and every move the chicas made. It sucked.

BeersTerry
10-18-18, 21:46
I visited Playa del este back in February, it was pretty much dead. Beautiful beach though, there was a couple chicas walking around but also several police, most were wearing plain clothes but it was obvious that they were watching every move we made, and every move the chicas made. It sucked.It sucked because it is winter time. Cubans go to the beach during the summer. The winter coats shoulda been a giveaway

Ty Down
10-18-18, 22:55
It sucked because it is winter time. Cubans go to the beach during the summer. The winter coats shoulda been a giveawayHahaha, you're right.

Ty Down
10-18-18, 23:12
A few pics of Playa del Estes.

GrownMan1
10-19-18, 14:27
The steak might be a little closer, but here's the thing I'm not asking what the rate is to the guy next to me at a steak house. Just like I'm not coming on here anymore asking what going rates are because I don't care. If I want something I know how much I will pay for it, doesn't matter what others pay for it. I certainly would not get mad or offended if someone got the same girl for less money. I was giving out coach and MK purses that costed 2-400 last trip to DR, I didn't need to do it. I wasn't doing it to get better service, in fact one girl I used that line on because I saw someone on here say they did it. I gave her the you make this night stellar and you will get this, well 30 minutes later I decided that was kind of stupid and just gave it to her. I enjoy the look on their faces, just like when I go to the villages and give the kids toys and candy. It's giving someone something that is way beyond what they think they would ever get. I had a 5 some in Sosua and 3 of the girls were only 2000 but it was such a blast I gave them more than that in a tip. I don't expect more, I just enjoy giving I guess and don't think guys who don't want to worry about price should feel they need to negotiate. PLenty of people don't negotiate in life, that's part of my job and I certainly don't want to do it on vacation.How much you want to pay is your business. But you sound so different from the other guy on the DR forum. Here is his Quote on 10-15-18 "I had some chick tried to take me to the cops for not paying years ago, I walked all the way to the police station with her and the street cop until within 100 yards she gave up and I went my own way. I still have a full beer in my hand so I was just enjoying the show. I outlasted her. Also I didn't pay because she didn't follow through with our agreement, ". This man ain't shouting performance means nothing. He was willing to waste his vacation time following behind a puta on a two year old dept for the Amount of money You wipe your ass with. I apologize I thought you were the same person.

DarrenGap
10-19-18, 22:38
I've got a couple of older Samsung phones j3 I think I could take to Cuba, would the Chicas be interested in a phone-for-f**k arrangement?

Its more fun than putting it on ebay.

GrownMan1
10-20-18, 16:35
Lets move on from the car analogy. It doesn't make much sense to me (although I hope someone's Mom didn't pay $9000 too much).

Different rules apply.
".I don't want to beat a dead horse. No my mother did not purchase the car even after he came down on the price $6000. The point I was trying to make is just because you are a custom to paying A certain amount for something doesn't mean it's worth it. In Cuba as well as other countries where tourism is high the local people take advantage of this type of mentality. They think that we Americans have more money then we have understanding. It's not all about the money for me.

One time in Havana Gogo and I along with two locals we're going in Casa de Music. They wanted to charge the locals five dollars and Gogo and I 20 to enter. I've paid $20 to get in club hundreds of times. But I refuse to patronize their business. Gogo offered to pay my way in but he know it wasn't about the money. Our Cuban friends said it's like that in many places. I said to them your country is asking for tourism yet you treat your tourism with disrespect. When you're in my country we don't have a price for Americans then another price for guest.

A while back on this forum the Canadians were joking about the Americans coming to Cuba. They openly joked about how we we're going to fuck up The well organized system they had enjoyed for years with the young chicas. I really took offense to them but I did not respond I don't think.

I recall in Cuba seeing about four or five elderly male Canadians in an area outside of Havana. They were enjoying many of the local chicas keeping everything quiet and the prices at a minimum. They have been doing it for years. They were enjoying their vacation with an understanding they were not in Canada the culture change to there advantage. They operated system like OG's.

MadisonGuy
10-20-18, 16:53
Holy crap, first day down in Havana. This place is a gold mine, I'm shocked it has as little posts as it does. Blows away DR so bad it's not even close, their are so many crazy hot girls here. I was a little worried because la rampa and Malecon was just eh, but when we finally got to Fantaxy the girls were raining from the heavens. I've never been to a place that I can remember when I had a hard time choosing, but last night was incredibly hard to choose. Then when I finally got one, our bottle service girl told me I'the have a better time if I ditched her and took her home. I was like WTF that's awesome. Other than accommodations being a little less than I'm use to and food being less than I'm use to, I actually haven't eaten in a couple days. This place is by far the best place I've been out of Asia, south and Central America. YMMV but this is set up like going to pick up a chick at a club which is exactly what I like. Also I was worried everyone was talking about this 2 hour bull crap or not more than 1 girl. My girl was really not liking when I just told her to leave at near noon. And I had a couple girls approach me with threesome action last night. My casa said it's not allowed with a wink at the end, if I get the right combo I'm going for it.

Pokeris
10-20-18, 17:53
Holy crap, first day down in Havana. This place is a gold mine, I'm shocked it has as little posts as it does. Blows away DR so bad it's not even close, their are so many crazy hot girls here. I was a little worried because la rampa and Malecon was just eh, but when we finally got to Fantaxy the girls were raining from the heavens. I've never been to a place that I can remember when I had a hard time choosing, but last night was incredibly hard to choose. Then when I finally got one, our bottle service girl told me I'the have a better time if I ditched her and took her home. I was like WTF that's awesome. Other than accommodations being a little less than I'm use to and food being less than I'm use to, I actually haven't eaten in a couple days. This place is by far the best place I've been out of Asia, south and Central America. YMMV but this is set up like going to pick up a chick at a club which is exactly what I like. Also I was worried everyone was talking about this 2 hour bull crap or not more than 1 girl. My girl was really not liking when I just told her to leave at near noon. And I had a couple girls approach me with threesome action last night. My casa said it's not allowed with a wink at the end, if I get the right combo I'm going for it.Nice report! Do fantaxy have entry fee? How much you pay for a girl for all night?

Catire
10-20-18, 20:21
Holy crap, first day down in Havana. This place is a gold mine, I'm shocked it has as little posts as it does. Blows away DR so bad it's not even close, their are so many crazy hot girls here. This place is by far the best place I've been out of Asia, south and Central America. YMMV but this is set up like going to pick up a chick at a club which is exactly what I like. These truths have been well known to travelers for 25 years or so.

but tell us about this Fantaxy place and the setup, etc, location, etc

Catire
10-20-18, 21:10
Aha. So it's a Mirarmar, Castro family owned / associated establishment.

Sounds like along the lines of El Miyo why El Tuyo. But not quite as far away.

https://www.radiotelevisionmarti.com/a/fantasy-cuba-castro-sandro-/142712.h


even more interesting

https://www.cibercuba.com/videos/noticias/2017-10-19-u1-e20037-youtuber-espanol-habla-prostitucion-fantaxy-bar-nieto-fidel

ok, so the lunatic exilio websites based in Miami are amusing...:) now we know about this place etc

Dave1111
10-21-18, 00:29
Holy crap, first day down in Havana. This place is a gold mine, I'm shocked it has as little posts as it does. Blows away DR so bad it's not even close, their are so many crazy hot girls here. I was a little worried because la rampa and Malecon was just eh, but when we finally got to Fantaxy the girls were raining from the heavens. I've never been to a place that I can remember when I had a hard time choosing, but last night was incredibly hard to choose. Then when I finally got one, our bottle service girl told me I'the have a better time if I ditched her and took her home. I was like WTF that's awesome. Other than accommodations being a little less than I'm use to and food being less than I'm use to, I actually haven't eaten in a couple days. This place is by far the best place I've been out of Asia, south and Central America. YMMV but this is set up like going to pick up a chick at a club which is exactly what I like. Also I was worried everyone was talking about this 2 hour bull crap or not more than 1 girl. My girl was really not liking when I just told her to leave at near noon. And I had a couple girls approach me with threesome action last night. My casa said it's not allowed with a wink at the end, if I get the right combo I'm going for it.So I am there in a short while, what's the exact address of the club and how much are the girls asking and what are you paying. What are the opening hours. What's the dress code in the club. I find the whole island too hot for trousers, the heat damn near kills me.

If you find any other decent spots then lets hear about. Regards.

Mondo707
10-21-18, 06:29
Nice report! Do fantaxy have entry fee? How much you pay for a girl for all night?Hey Poker,

Been there a few times and there is no cover charge, at least the times I've been there. The people working the door check you out, who knows for what.

Expect an up charge back to the city by the taxi drivers unless you have wheels.

Mondo.

Pokeris
10-21-18, 06:47
Hey Poker,

Been there a few times and there is no cover charge, at least the times I've been there. The people working the door check you out, who knows for what.

Expect an up charge back to the city by the taxi drivers unless you have wheels.

Mondo.Thanks for info Mondo.

Uncle Volodya
10-21-18, 15:56
Holy crap, first day down in Havana. This place is a gold mine, I'm shocked it has as little posts as it does. Blows away DR so bad it's not even close, their are so many crazy hot girls here. I was a little worried because la rampa and Malecon was just eh, but when we finally got to Fantaxy the girls were raining from the heavens. I've never been to a place that I can remember when I had a hard time choosing, but last night was incredibly hard to choose. Then when I finally got one, our bottle service girl told me I'the have a better time if I ditched her and took her home. I was like WTF that's awesome. Other than accommodations being a little less than I'm use to and food being less than I'm use to, I actually haven't eaten in a couple days. This place is by far the best place I've been out of Asia, south and Central America. YMMV but this is set up like going to pick up a chick at a club which is exactly what I like. Also I was worried everyone was talking about this 2 hour bull crap or not more than 1 girl. My girl was really not liking when I just told her to leave at near noon. And I had a couple girls approach me with threesome action last night. My casa said it's not allowed with a wink at the end, if I get the right combo I'm going for it.Great report. I am happy to hear you had fun at Fantaxy.

I've been there twice and the girls were pretty meh both times. Also very very crowded both times. I ended up going to Mi why Tuyo instead and scored there.

Your report makes me want to give it another shot when I am back in Havana in a few weeks.

Dave1111
10-21-18, 19:55
Great report. I am happy to hear you had fun at Fantaxy.

I've been there twice and the girls were pretty meh both times. Also very very crowded both times. I ended up going to Mi why Tuyo instead and scored there.

Your report makes me want to give it another shot when I am back in Havana in a few weeks.What is the address of this place Fantasy and also the address of the other club you mentioned Mi y Tuyo?

Thanks.

NamasteParis
10-21-18, 19:56
Holy crap, first day down in Havana. This place is a gold mine, I'm shocked it has as little posts as it does. Blows away DR so bad it's not even close, their are so many crazy hot girls here. I was a little worried because la rampa and Malecon was just eh, but when we finally got to Fantaxy the girls were raining from the heavens. I've never been to a place that I can remember when I had a hard time choosing, but last night was incredibly hard to choose. Then when I finally got one, our bottle service girl told me I'the have a better time if I ditched her and took her home. I was like WTF that's awesome. Other than accommodations being a little less than I'm use to and food being less than I'm use to, I actually haven't eaten in a couple days. This place is by far the best place I've been out of Asia, south and Central America. YMMV but this is set up like going to pick up a chick at a club which is exactly what I like. Also I was worried everyone was talking about this 2 hour bull crap or not more than 1 girl. My girl was really not liking when I just told her to leave at near noon. And I had a couple girls approach me with threesome action last night. My casa said it's not allowed with a wink at the end, if I get the right combo I'm going for it.Nice report, but lacking of important details, like how much did you pay? Where did you spend the night with the girl? Did you take the same taxi? Did the girl register?

Catire
10-22-18, 01:39
What is the address of this place Fantasy and also the address of the other club you mentioned Mi y Tuyo?

Thanks.Says in the links, dude. The other you can also Google.

Mondo707
10-22-18, 07:59
Says in the links, dude. The other you can also Google.Hey,

For those of you who are friends with Google, LOL, you need to have your spelling correct, otherwise you might not get the info you are looking for.

The places mentioned are spelled, Fantaxy and the other one near by is spelled Mio y Tuyo.

Please post reports if and when you visit.

Mondo.

LxrUS
10-22-18, 08:03
Guys,

Traveling to Havana for the first time during thanksgiving next month. Doesn't speak Spanish unfortunately.

Staying at airbnb close to calle 9 and calle K. Any clubs to recommend?

Thanks.

Catire
10-22-18, 15:19
Hey,

For those of you who are friends with Google, LOL, you need to have your spelling correct, otherwise you might not get the info you are looking for.

The places mentioned are spelled, Fantaxy and the other one near by is spelled Mio y Tuyo.

Please post reports if and when you visit.

Mondo.Thanks for the heads up. But I'm good. If I wanted to begin correcting all the spelling mistakes others make, it'd be a full time job.

Tavares
10-22-18, 15:34
Thanks for the heads up. But I'm good. If I wanted to begin correcting all the spelling mistakes others make, it'd be a full time job.Be thankful first to Mondo707 and then start by correcting your own mistakes: hope it is not a full time job.

Dave1111
10-22-18, 18:00
Guys,

Traveling to Havana for the first time during thanksgiving next month. Doesn't speak Spanish unfortunately.

Staying at airbnb close to calle 9 and calle K. Any clubs to recommend?

Thanks.There is definitely a club northish of calle 13 above avenida Los Presidentes. I went half a dozen times. Its exclusive and when full had about 200 people, ranging from chicks 25 yrs to 60 year old well groomed tourists. I spoke to Mexicans, a guy from Honduras and two Spanish guys all there on business. At least 20 free lancers all well dressed. Great security and not a sniff of bother. I can't remember the name of the place. It looks like any big old house in the street and is very quiet outside. Two big sound proofed doors keep all the sound inside.

Ask around and find that one. Fabrica de arte didn't do it for me at all. Watch out for the trannies in the clubs. Those dark clubs and strobe lights hide everything. You can begin to get very close to what you think is a stunning bird and its actually a bloke! I had a close call and it rocked my boat I had a lucky escape.

Theres a bar a few doors down from casa de musica in central, that had 20 freelancers in and was great. Just tables and a bar and the girls were coming over all the time but not in an aggressive way.

I am looking forward to trying out a number of different bars this time.

Dave1111
10-22-18, 18:04
Be thankful first to Mondo707 and then start by correcting your own mistakes: hope it is not a full time job.Don't be offended guys, but when I say have you got the address that's because I couldn't find it, links or no links. Maybe I am a bit dumb when it comes to computers but if we keep saying "check google" or its "in the link" then this is going to be a dull forum. If I had the answer and someone asked I would quickly insert it and send, its as quick as that. I suspect everything you ever want to know in your life is somewhere in Google, but isn't half the fun communicating with each other!

If I have anything to share then I will just send it, links or no links.

Catire
10-22-18, 20:55
Be thankful first to Mondo707 and then start by correcting your own mistakes: hope it is not a full time job.Como dijo el gobierno cubano en frente de la embajada de Yuma No tenemos miedo. Go back over the posts and then directly ascertain who is doing the misspelling.

Por favor?

DarrenGap
10-23-18, 01:02
Hoping not to get dragged into a spelling bee.

Google maps spits out the fact Fantaxy and Miyo & Tuyo are 12 minutes walk apart.

Having said that it looks like a country mile from anywhere else.

Catire
10-23-18, 01:26
Hoping not to get dragged into a spelling bee.

Google maps spits out the fact Fantaxy and Miyo & Tuyo are 12 minutes walk apart.

Having said that it looks like a country mile from anywhere else.Strange I could have sworn MyT was further down, but maps do not lie.

Umm, well that depends what you call "anywhere else".

It's actually very much in the center of Miramar. Close to Melia Habana. Comodoro. Go up the hill to Tropicana and Marianao.

But the other poster is correct. You will get absolutely gouged on taxis. And transportation is and has been a huge issue in La Habana for over 20 years.

if you are more or less Miramar based, then location is quite good. If you are in Vedado or worse yet Centro.Habana Vieja - then it is a "country mile"

actually like 6, or 7 miles

DarrenGap
10-23-18, 01:50
Strange I could have sworn MyT was further down, but maps do not lie.

Umm, well that depends what you call "anywhere else".

It's actually very much in the center of Miramar. Close to Melia Habana. Comodoro. Go up the hill to Tropicana and Marianao.

But the other poster is correct. You will get absolutely gouged on taxis. And transportation is and has been a huge issue in La Habana for over 20 years.

if you are more or less Miramar based, then location is quite good. If you are in Vedado or worse yet Centro.Habana Vieja - then it is a "country mile"

actually like 6, or 7 milesYep, I'm in Paseo de Marti hotel for a couple of days till I find a suitable casa in Vedado, I love the scene around la rampa, but I need somewhere to go when it gets quiet, ie after the midnight hour. Casa de Musica was a choice.

Know what you mean about the taxis, plus the ever present pay in CUC get change in CUP trick.

These penny ha'penny scams are part of the charm to be honest. I'd expect to get a bit scammed for something or other during my vacation. That's the way it is in La Habana.

MadisonGuy
10-24-18, 00:28
Follow up post, end of trip kind of sucked. Got a little sick from walking in the heat all day and then hitting the crazy cold AC. Havana is pretty great, for a bachelor party it's perfect. But like DR it's kind of too weighted on the night. The girls are crazy hot, but I can only do a couple nights of partying until 3 in the morning. I think if you stayed for a couple months and had a harem built up it would be great. I had this girl trying to fight her way back in a lot. She'the leave 10 messaged on Cuban cell and 20 on whatsapp, it got a bit ridiculous but she was how and nice. Just not really my girl next door type.

It's only $10 to Fantaxy and Mi tuyo from downtown Havana. Not bad really. But at least at Fantaxy it seemed the more you were dropping on drinks the more the girls flocked to you. We met a couple American dudes not really liking the drink prices and they were having a hard time with the ladies, we never had to move from our table though they always came to us.

I didn't find anyone quoting anything near 40, I was getting 80-150. I tried once to get the girl from 80 to 40 and she passed this was on Malecon, I wasn't all that interested to I passed but next night gave her another try and she said 50 so I gave it a shot. One of worst experiences of my life, I kicked her out pretty fast. I didn't see anything very good on Malecon or la rampa. Not sure why people are saying those are the spots unless it's late at night but by then I'm at the club. If they got some massage parlors and stuff this would be the perfect place for me, but until then I'm throwing it in the bag of eh I can only take 2 days of partying and at that point I'the rather pay 300-$500 for a girl here state side who I know is solid.

Oh yeah one set of girls rode in taxi with us from Fantaxy another did not. Roughly spent $500/ day not including airfare and airbnb, which was significantly better for my buddy and I who I traveled to DR with. We were well over a grand there. But food was better, found some shawarma place I liked other than that it was basically dry lobster. If I had a couple months and could get out of havana I might try in again, there are so many hot girls there. Also they need Uber. Happy travels! Oh yeah I got thoroughly searched and asked quite a bit at customs on the way back. A little surprising because I've been searched before but really fast, they did a deep search this time and asked for photos. Orlando entry.

Chris H
10-24-18, 01:42
Yep, I'm in Paseo de Marti hotel for a couple of days till I find a suitable casa in Vedado, I love the scene around la rampa, but I need somewhere to go when it gets quiet, ie after the midnight hour. Casa de Musica was a choice.

Know what you mean about the taxis, plus the ever present pay in CUC get change in CUP trick.

These penny ha'penny scams are part of the charm to be honest. I'd expect to get a bit scammed for something or other during my vacation. That's the way it is in La Habana.Got to be smart about it, just give them the exact amount in CUC that they request, and not worry about change.

TomJackin
10-24-18, 08:22
Follow up post, end of trip kind of sucked. Thanks for confirming my thoughts on Cuba. Pricey, cat and mouse with the police, and crappy food!

I haven't missed a damn thing!

MadisonGuy
10-24-18, 17:07
Thanks for confirming my thoughts on Cuba. Pricey, cat and mouse with the police, and crappy food!

I haven't missed a damn thing!Cat and mouse with police is nothing, like I thought it was going to be way worse. I think they make too much out of it. I don't like cuban food in America so I guess it stands to reason I wouldn't like it in Cuba anymore. I'm more of a high end steak house guy and very few countries offer that, so Cuba would rank with DR, Costa Rica, and Philippines on shitty food level. I think Cuba has a lot to offer for the right kind of guy, but I prefer Philippines the most right now. Day game is better and massages are cheap.

Oh another thing Cuban chicks have tons of tattoo's, I was kind of shocked how common it was. I'm not into them at all, but can look past them for a gem.

WyattEarp
10-25-18, 15:54
Roughly spent $500/ day not including airfare and airbnb, which was significantly better for my buddy and I who I traveled to DR with.What did you spend $500 per day on in Havana? That seems like a lot of money for a third world country.

PeacefulRunner
10-25-18, 17:09
Bathers,

I am new to this forum. I am planning to visit Cuba and try to enjoy the mongering there. I read some previous posts. But I got a question on how do you connect to local girl?

Do they use cell phone regularly?

Do they response the message or phone call? Maybe the message or phone call is too expensive to them?

Do they have any popular social media could reached?

Is that possible to by a local sim card for a week tour?

Catire
10-25-18, 23:42
Cat and mouse with police is nothing, like I thought it was going to be way worse. I think they make too much out of it. I don't like cuban food in America so I guess it stands to reason I wouldn't like it in Cuba anymore. I'm more of a high end steak house guy and very few countries offer that, so Cuba would rank with DR, Costa Rica, and Philippines on shitty food level. I think Cuba has a lot to offer for the right kind of guy, but I prefer Philippines the most right now. Day game is better and massages are cheap.

Oh another thing Cuban chicks have tons of tattoo's, I was kind of shocked how common it was. I'm not into them at all, but can look past them for a gem.There's at least one paladar, a block away from Cepelia which is divine.

Perhaps not "high end steak", but perfectly acceptable. More than acceptable.

Malecon and La Rampa now no longer hopping because of police crackdown and a slight change in public mores.

80-150, I am assuming you are quoting companionship prices. Well 100 or so has always been "Miramar" club standard.

They were quoting 100 at the Comodoro 20 years ago.

And of course they were flocking to the "bid spenders" at the bottle service club. Happens in the States too, even if just to drink for free.

Ty Down
10-26-18, 02:56
There's at least one paladar, a block away from Cepelia which is divine.

Perhaps not "high end steak", but perfectly acceptable. More than acceptable.

Malecon and La Rampa now no longer hopping because of police crackdown and a slight change in public mores.

80-150, I am assuming you are quoting companionship prices. Well 100 or so has always been "Miramar" club standard.

They were quoting 100 at the Comodoro 20 years ago.

And of course they were flocking to the "bid spenders" at the bottle service club. Happens in the States too, even if just to drink for free.I've been saying this for a couple years now, one of the biggest problems in Cuba is finding food that you actually eat without getting the dry heaves. If you happen to venture outside of Havana it gets much, much worse. I've have eaten at every upscale restaurant that I could find in Havana, there are 2 Paladors that stand head and shoulders above the rest.

- for authentic Cuban dishes it's "LOS Amigos".

- for Steak, Salad and a nice bottle of Wine it's "Decameron" - hands down the best in Havana!

WyattEarp
10-26-18, 17:29
I've been saying this for a couple years now, one of the biggest problems in Cuba is finding food that you actually eat without getting the dry heaves. If you happen to venture outside of Havana it gets much, much worse. I've have eaten at every upscale restaurant that I could find in Havana, there are 2 Paladors that stand head and shoulders above the rest.It's been awhile, but it's amazing how mediocre the food is. Even in more upscale hotels, the food is very average. I just figured all those Canadians who come down just want a cheap beach vacation during the long winters. The supply chain all the way down to the farm level doesn't produce and distribute high quality meat and vegetables. That's what happens when nobody has any incentive or interest in making a better product.

You would think an island nation would have good seafood, but even then it's surprisingly average. Locals told us stories that much of the sea around Cuba has been over harvested or the seafood is exported for hard currency. People directed us to Don Cangrejo restaurant which actually doesn't know what they are doing.

The best meal we had was the lady that owned our casa made us dinner. We gave her cash and she made us a nice spread of simple Cuban cuisine. In case you're curious, it was pretty much don't ask, don't tell. A beautiful girl I met earlier came by looking for me while I was gone. When I got home, she was chatting with the lady. They looked like old friends. Cubans are realists.

NamasteParis
10-26-18, 18:51
Roughly spent $500/ day not including airfare and airbnb, which was significantly better for my buddy and I who I traveled to DR with. We were well over a grand there. 500 $/ day in Cuba.

1000 $/ day in DR.

Did someone make some voodoo on you, and every time you need to go to the toilet, the only paper you can find is in your wallet?

NamasteParis
10-26-18, 19:05
Bathers,

I am new to this forum. I am planning to visit Cuba and try to enjoy the mongering there. I read some previous posts. But I got a question on how do you connect to local girl?

Do they use cell phone regularly?

Do they response the message or phone call? Maybe the message or phone call is too expensive to them?

Do they have any popular social media could reached?

Is that possible to by a local sim card for a week tour?Hi, yeah, getting a local phone number is a real plus. You can buy one at any ETECSA office. You need to show your passport. As far as I remember, it's around 40 $ to get a SIM card and a local mobile number. You need then to buy top up cards for internet, and different ones for local calls (don't forget to say MOBILE local calls (telefono movil), or they will sell you cards for local lines (normal phone at home), useless for you.

Calling by phone is the standard in Cuba, and internet apps are not really used, because internet can only be found at some specific places, so it's never real time, but always delayed (and sometimes it can take days or weeks to get an answer!). You can send some SMS too. But Cuban people are more talkative than chating people. Girls will always call you with reverse charge call, so you'd better have credit! See my Trip Report in the General forum.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?500-General-Info&p=2150238&viewfull=1#post2150238

Ty Down
10-26-18, 21:34
It's been awhile, but it's amazing how mediocre the food is. Even in more upscale hotels, the food is very average. I just figured all those Canadians who come down just want a cheap beach vacation during the long winters. The supply chain all the way down to the farm level doesn't produce and distribute high quality meat and vegetables. That's what happens when nobody has any incentive or interest in making a better product.

.

Completely agree, except my personal rating for Cuban food is HORRIBLE. Yes, it's a struggle to find mediocre food IMHO. Cubans are absolutely clueless when it comes to preparing seafood, jeeesh. I ordered Lobster more than once at a supposed upscale restaurant and it was like chewing on a tractor tire, grossly over-cooked.

Cuba imports all of their Beef supply from South America, so who knows how its been handled during shipping and preparation.

I spent a few weeks down in central Cuba, Santa Clara, Ciego de Avila and a few little villages out in the Campo, food consisted of Rice, Beans, Pig and an occasional chicken. 3 times a day.

But Cuba is not all bad, there are some fine ass chicas and I will be back!

DarrenGap
10-27-18, 00:21
Malecon and La Rampa now no longer hopping because of police crackdown and a slight change in public mores.

What?? Tell me Sophies and Tikkoa and the other small clubs or bars on either side of La Rampa are still going?

Surely there's entertainment to be had still?

LxrUS
10-27-18, 04:23
Visiting Havana next month. Want to have some fun but don't speak any Spanish. What advice would you give? Like where to go and how to find girls.

GrownMan1
10-27-18, 10:41
500 $/ day in Cuba.

1000 $/ day in DR.

Did someone make some voodoo on you, and every time you need to go to the toilet, the only paper you can find is in your wallet?Can you smell the bullshit in the air?

PeacefulRunner
10-27-18, 14:05
Hi, yeah, getting a local phone number is a real plus. You can buy one at any ETECSA office. You need to show your passport. As far as I remember, it's around 40 $ to get a SIM card and a local mobile number. You need then to buy top up cards for internet, and different ones for local calls (don't forget to say MOBILE local calls (telefono movil), or they will sell you cards for local lines (normal phone at home), useless for you.

Calling by phone is the standard in Cuba, and internet apps are not really used, because internet can only be found at some specific places, so it's never real time, but always delayed (and sometimes it can take days or weeks to get an answer!). You can send some SMS too. But Cuban people are more talkative than chating people. Girls will always call you with reverse charge call, so you'd better have credit! See my Trip Report in the General forum.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?500-General-Info&p=2150238&viewfull=1#post2150238.Thanks in million. It's great answers.

BTW, on top of the SIM card, how much credit should buy in general? (eg: 300 minutes) how do they charge the mobile call? By minute or by day / week?

Another thing, is the credit for country wide? If I move to other city rather than Havana, is there any roaming fee?

NamasteParis
10-27-18, 19:12
Completely agree, except my personal rating for Cuban food is HORRIBLE.True quite everywhere in Cuba, even in first-ranked tourist restaurants where you eat for 3 digits, food is just so-so. But I found an exception at Trinidad, you have a lot of very good restaurants, for much cheaper.

MjTravelLove
10-27-18, 21:19
What?? Tell me Sophies and Tikkoa and the other small clubs or bars on either side of La Rampa are still going?

Surely there's entertainment to be had still?Those clubs are running and yes there is some action, but not like it used to be. Not even close. La Rampa has become a consistent letdown, as has much of the nightlife in Havana -- a city I love.

To the food complainers: find a woman who knows how to cook and cook well, give her some cash, and get some home-cooked roasted pork, yucca with mojo, rice ann beans, avocado, coffee, flan, etc. Agreed, it won't be the best meal of your lives, but it's fresh and very good and cheap if you pay your cards right. And it's really not that hard to find this.

Ty Down
10-27-18, 23:09
To the food complainers: find a woman who knows how to cook and cook well, give her some cash, and get some home-cooked roasted pork, yucca with mojo, rice ann beans, avocado, coffee, flan, etc. Agreed, it won't be the best meal of your lives, but it's fresh and very good and cheap if you pay your cards right. And it's really not that hard to find this.Yes, that's what I did, pretty decent food when you can find a chica to cook for you. Just outside of Ciego de Avila

Ty Down
10-27-18, 23:20
True quite everywhere in Cuba, even in first-ranked tourist restaurants where you eat for 3 digits, food is just so-so. But I found an exception at Trinidad, you have a lot of very good restaurants, for much cheaper.Thanks NamasteParis, Trinidad is definitely on my list!

Catire
10-28-18, 00:02
Visiting Havana next month. Want to have some fun but don't speak any Spanish. What advice would you give? Like where to go and how to find girls.You'll have to go to the "usual" places. You will pay more.

Don't be shocked if it's kinda of listless and mechanical.

Ask the girl if she's a "buena oja" .

Psychman
10-28-18, 00:07
Oh yeah one set of girls rode in taxi with us from Fantaxy another did not. Roughly spent $500/ day not including airfare and airbnb, which was significantly better for my buddy and I who I traveled to DR with. .I think the most important people to write for are those who are experienced hobbiests, but who are new to another country. To this audience-- don't pay attention to $500 a day. I am a free spender, and this is an insane amount of money for Havana, unless you just need to buy drinks for everyone and their primo. 80 bucks is a fair rate for a couple of hours with a chica if you have any negotiating skills whatsoever, 100 bucks max, and TLN should be that or less, frankly. Actually, this is what I spent less lodging in Singapore- one of the most expensive cities in the world to party in.

DarrenGap
10-28-18, 00:28
Those clubs are running and yes there is some action, but not like it used to be. Not even close. La Rampa has become a consistent letdown, as has much of the nightlife in Havana -- a city I love.
I was there 3 years ago. Has it changed for the worse since then or is this a comparison with the "good old days" of years past?

NamasteParis
10-28-18, 14:41
Thanks in million. It's great answers.

BTW, on top of the SIM card, how much credit should buy in general? (eg: 300 minutes) how do they charge the mobile call? By minute or by day / week?

Another thing, is the credit for country wide? If I move to other city rather than Havana, is there any roaming fee?The mobile call or internet cards work anywhere in Cuba. No roaming fee There is one exception though. Don't buy these cards in a famous hotel at la Havana especially(Hotel Nacional for example), because this card will work only in this hotel, and NOT in the wifi places everywhere else. Calls and internet are debited from your credit by the second. How much time should you buy? Well it depends on you and your girlfriends. Some spend hours talking, others minutes / day. First buy one or two 5 CUC (5 $) cards, and then you'll see. Pay attention though that the MOBILE CALLING cards are way less commercialized than the internet cards. You don't find them easily, and the street vendors never have them. So once you are in a Etecsa (and spent 30 mn in the queue), buy several. If you still have some unused cards the last days before you leave, they can be used as gift for your chicas.

As I said in my trip report (general section), there are 2 queues at ETECSA: one for internet, one for calls. Ask as soon as you arrive. So if you intend to buy both, select the smallest queue.

A problem and time saving tip in Cuba: When you arrive in front of a queue in Cuba (and especially at ETECSA), don't be shy and always ask loudly 'ULTIMO? ULTIMO?' (who is the last one?) in front of the queue, until someone raises his hand. This is the last person of the queue, and you are then the one behind. Then you may ask this 'last' person: "despues quien?" (after who?) and then he will show you the person before him. So if you want to sit down around, you can then follow up the queue without stress and stand up when it's your turn. Be aware though: if someone arrives after you and asks "utlimo? DO raise your hand, or else this person will think he is the last, and will go in before you.

MadisonGuy
10-28-18, 22:11
500 $/ day in Cuba.

1000 $/ day in DR.

Did someone make some voodoo on you, and every time you need to go to the toilet, the only paper you can find is in your wallet?Nope, just don't like to slum it when I travel. Stay at nicest places, eat at nicest restaurant. Bottle service at Fantaxy wasn't cheap I think we got 2 bottles at like $250 each plus other drinks and mixers. Cuba wasn't so bad, it was what I budgeted which was cheap. DR got really expensive but the food was way more and gambling hurt too. I spent 3 times more in the same time period in DR than Cuba.

I'the be shocked if someone could pick up a decent chick for under 50 in Cuba, set aside picking up girls like normal and them giving the I have a problem and need money help. But the straight street walkers were not attractive and asking much more. I picked up some hot girls in DR for like $40 but I got 4 of them and they were all friends except one who costed like $130? 7000 pesos. MOney well spent, crazy fun night. Easily $750 spent that night not including gambling.

Rebel Monger
10-28-18, 22:29
...To the food complainers: find a woman who knows how to cook and cook well....In that case you might have to find a woman over 50. Like everywhere else, the young ones are not really that good in the kitchen cooking.

Mondo707
10-29-18, 05:10
In that case you might have to find a woman over 50. Like everywhere else, the young ones are not really that good in the kitchen cooking.Hey Rebel,

Have to agree with you (age wise) with one exception, if you go to the countryside most women learn to cook from their moms and grandmas except the ones that gravitate to the big city.

Mondo.

Confiable
10-29-18, 16:37
What?? Tell me Sophies and Tikkoa and the other small clubs or bars on either side of La Rampa are still going?

Surely there's entertainment to be had still?Darren,

I am here now. Tikkoa is mostly young people early twenties. There is a spot across the street on the corner of 23 & and that is an older crowd (MILF). I was there yesterday because they played 80's are&be / Hiphop music until 9 pm and then Salsa, merengue and regaeton afterwards. You also have la gruta down the street on the same side as Tikkoa and that crowd was late 20's, up into the 40's from what I seen.

MjTravelLove
10-29-18, 20:26
In that case you might have to find a woman over 50. Like everywhere else, the young ones are not really that good in the kitchen cooking.Agreed that the local woman who can cook here are usually 40+. Back in the day, or at least 15 years ago, that was different. I knew a 20-someting year old who cooked up a storm. While I am not at all passionate about Cuban food, I know have a lady who crushes it in the cocina. So I usually eat there. It's cheap and mutually beneficial. The food is outstanding for Cuban food, SUPER flavorful and a variety of dishes. She is 40-something. But yeah, her daughters can't cook. But I can't give out her details, you have to find your own personal chef.

MjTravelLove
10-29-18, 20:36
I think the most important people to write for are those who are experienced hobbiests, but who are new to another country. To this audience-- don't pay attention to $500 a day. I am a free spender, and this is an insane amount of money for Havana, unless you just need to buy drinks for everyone and their primo. 80 bucks is a fair rate for a couple of hours with a chica if you have any negotiating skills whatsoever, 100 bucks max, and TLN should be that or less, frankly. Actually, this is what I spent less lodging in Singapore- one of the most expensive cities in the world to party in.Guys, I don't get into this price war BS that goes on constantly in this forum. I am experienced here, others are as well, and some are not. If the newbies get taken to the bank, that's a learning lesson. It would be much better if we focus on giving sound advice than we do on castigating people who say they spent more than seems reasonable. The probably don't speak spanish and are probably in Havana for the first time.

THAT SAID, do not listen to this 500 USD / day garbage. What is that about?? And the same person says he drops 3 digits at the top restaurants in Havana? That's hard to do even at La Guarida, unless you order multiple bottles of wine -- which is a choice you make. The most I spend on a meal there, with lots of food booze and beer, would be about 35 cuc. Not sure what this 500/ day guy is doing!?

DarrenGap
10-30-18, 00:48
Darren,

I am here now. Tikkoa is mostly young people early twenties. There is a spot across the street on the corner of 23 & and that is an older crowd (MILF). I was there yesterday because they played 80's are&be / Hiphop music until 9 pm and then Salsa, merengue and regaeton afterwards. You also have la gruta down the street on the same side as Tikkoa and that crowd was late 20's, up into the 40's from what I seen.OK, and I guess most of the women at the clubs (of whatever age) are available, so sounds like business as usual to me.

Was the streetscene still in place? Did you get approached walking between the clubs, even if its subtle?

Anyone want to meet up around Sophies, will be there week of 12th Nov.

Not with $500 per day, mind you.

What I know so far: $50 casa, $50 food for the day. Maybe $30 drinks on average per day and $80-$100 chica allowance, $20 for taxis etc, I guess around $250 would cover the basics, say $300 per day to cover the unexpected.

GrownMan1
10-30-18, 03:24
OK, and I guess most of the women at the clubs (of whatever age) are available, so sounds like business as usual to me.

Was the streetscene still in place? Did you get approached walking between the clubs, even if its subtle?

Anyone want to meet up around Sophies, will be there week of 12th Nov.

Not with $500 per day, mind you.

What I know so far: $50 casa, $50 food for the day. Maybe $30 drinks on average per day and $80-$100 chica allowance, $20 for taxis etc, I guess around $250 would cover the basics, say $300 per day to cover the unexpected.My budget is more like this. Casa $30, food $30 twice a day with tip, Drinks 🍹 $30 five Cuba libre's enough, chicas $30-$50, taxi 🚕 $20 I walk a lot. Say $200 to cover everything with miscellaneous coverage because I'm not drinking five Cuba libre's. And I'm not paying $50 to every Chica.

DarrenGap
10-30-18, 10:30
My budget is more like this. Casa $30, food $30 twice a day with tip, Drinks 🍹 $30 five Cuba libre's enough, chicas $30-$50, taxi 🚕 $20 I walk a lot. Say $200 to cover everything with miscellaneous coverage because I'm not drinking five Cuba libre's. And I'm not paying $50 to every Chica.Yes my figs are really "worst case", as I'm looking for a complete casa to myself for easy chica access, and as I like a bit of street meat I probably won't be paying $80 a pop. On the other hand if they're hot enough I may want 2 a day.

They're seem to be a few more restaurants than before I've got Restaurant Mediterraneo, California Cafe and even the Opera restaurant nearby so its not like the very first time I went to habana 15 years ago. Although that was a blessed time for chica availability.

Sammytheman
10-30-18, 14:51
Darren,

There is a spot across the street on the corner of 23 & and23rd and what?

BeersTerry
10-30-18, 14:54
Yes my figs are really "worst case", as I'm looking for a complete casa to myself for easy chica access, and as I like a bit of street meat I probably won't be paying $80 a pop. On the other hand if they're hot enough I may want 2 a day.

They're seem to be a few more restaurants than before I've got Restaurant Mediterraneo, California Cafe and even the Opera restaurant nearby so its not like the very first time I went to habana 15 years ago. Although that was a blessed time for chica availability.Did the California reopen?

Confiable
10-30-18, 15:12
23rd and what?23 Y N.

Confiable
10-30-18, 15:18
OK, and I guess most of the women at the clubs (of whatever age) are available, so sounds like business as usual to me.

Was the streetscene still in place? Did you get approached walking between the clubs, even if its subtle?

Anyone want to meet up around Sophies, will be there week of 12th Nov.

Not with $500 per day, mind you.

What I know so far: $50 casa, $50 food for the day. Maybe $30 drinks on average per day and $80-$100 chica allowance, $20 for taxis etc, I guess around $250 would cover the basics, say $300 per day to cover the unexpected.Yes the street scene is still in place. A few girls will say something but for the most part they will stare at you to let you know they are available. Last night was dead. The Club at the corner of 23rd and and is Coctel Habana. The Hostess who stands outside this place suggested Fantasy and Cafe de Revolution.

PeacefulRunner
10-30-18, 15:43
The mobile call or internet cards work anywhere in Cuba. No roaming fee There is one exception though. Don't buy these cards in a famous hotel at la Havana especially(Hotel Nacional for example), because this card will work only in this hotel, and NOT in the wifi places everywhere else. Calls and internet are debited from your credit by the second. How much time should you buy? Well it depends on you and your girlfriends. Some spend hours talking, others minutes / day. First buy one or two 5 CUC (5 $) cards, and then you'll see. Pay attention though that the MOBILE CALLING cards are way less commercialized than the internet cards. You don't find them easily, and the street vendors never have them. So once you are in a Etecsa (and spent 30 mn in the queue), buy several. If you still have some unused cards the last days before you leave, they can be used as gift for your chicas.

As I said in my trip report (general section), there are 2 queues at ETECSA: one for internet, one for calls. Ask as soon as you arrive. So if you intend to buy both, select the smallest queue..Thanks buddy! It's very helpful!

DarrenGap
10-30-18, 22:30
Did the California reopen?Trip advisor review added last week and functioning website californiacafehabana dot com is all I know.

MadisonGuy
10-31-18, 02:10
Yes my figs are really "worst case", as I'm looking for a complete casa to myself for easy chica access, and as I like a bit of street meat I probably won't be paying $80 a pop. On the other hand if they're hot enough I may want 2 a day.

They're seem to be a few more restaurants than before I've got Restaurant Mediterraneo, California Cafe and even the Opera restaurant nearby so its not like the very first time I went to habana 15 years ago. Although that was a blessed time for chica availability.I'the be impressed if you can pull 2 a day in Havana. Maybe we weren't aggressive enough, but I walked over 10 miles a day per my phone and said Hi to a lot of girls who didn't look like working girls and wasn't getting a lot of feedback. 12 am hits in the night club and I'm fighting them off. I just don't get it. It isn't like anywhere I've been. The street girls that were available I wouldn't have paid they were worse than $20 Tijuana street girls. The one I did get from the street was literally probably the worst experience I've had, now I was a little sick so that wasn't helping but I had to throw her out I didn't even want to try and felt giving her the money and relaxing was better than wasting my time. Maybe with more time I would have got a better base line but it was so polar, I still have a super hottie writing me everyday and was blowing up our phone while we were there. She brought two chicks for my buddy. But plenty totally ignoring advancements outside the club. I wish we had tried the lower end malls, I feel like there's a lot of opportunity but time is needed which really isn't my thing anymore. I tried giving a security girl a lollipop at airport when I arrived and she was definitely into it but I guess it wouldn't go over well with the look her boss gave her. I would say work the clubs really hard the first night and get numbers, I wish we had done that more. Good luck, I wish I knew more places, Fantaxy was tough to beat come 12 am though.

LxrUS
11-03-18, 05:18
Hi guys,

I am traveling to Havana for the first time in a month. I am a newbie and don't speak Spanish but want some fun. I am looking at the aribnb and how do I find a place that I could bring chica to? Are there any things to look for? What areas would be the best? Thanks a lot!

Vedado Fun
11-04-18, 21:39
Hi guys,

I am traveling to Havana for the first time in a month. I am a newbie and don't speak Spanish but want some fun. I am looking at the aribnb and how do I find a place that I could bring chica to? Are there any things to look for? What areas would be the best? Thanks a lot!Havana is no longer a point and click destination. It's probably 5% as good as it was 15 years ago. Without knowing any Spanish and never having been there it will be very difficult for you to have a great time unless you don't care how much money you spend and have an unlimited budget. If you buy a subscription to this forum so you can do private messaging maybe a senior member will help you. Choose wisely where you stay and be very careful at all times.

Dave1111
11-04-18, 23:43
Havana is no longer a point and click destination. It's probably 5% as good as it was 15 years ago. Without knowing any Spanish and never having been there it will be very difficult for you to have a great time unless you don't care how much money you spend and have an unlimited budget. If you buy a subscription to this forum so you can do private messaging maybe a senior member will help you. Choose wisely where you stay and be very careful at all times.Hi,

I was there a year ago for a long time. I walked the city and went to bars and clubs every single night. I can honestly say I didn't see a sniff of trouble. I never even saw two people arguing. Went swimming in the malecon with some locals. Police walked past blew a whistle and twenty people flew out of that sea quicker than a rat up a drain pipe. That's the power and obvious fear the locals have. No-one said a word to the cop and no one went back in for over an hour and it wasn't the same people who got out earlier. Scams you have to watch. Anyone who try to speak to you will come across as nice but then always asks for something, I had this many times. Count your change because they will steal from you that way. Taxi drivers are the worst but also the small shop under the Havana Libre hotel is terrible for short changing tourists. They really are blatant and it changes your opinion of them. People aren't starving in Cuba and both health care and university is free to anyone (practically). This is plain theft, simple as that. The whole place has been heavily brain washed into thinking the west and capitalism is the worth thing since sliced bread. Funny though how so many crave to leave! I always explain that life outside is not all London flats by the Thames or Disney World in Florida. Life is tough for us on the other side.

If you know of any dangers that I have missed then spread the word.

Cheers.

BeersTerry
11-05-18, 18:22
Hi,

I was there a year ago for a long time. I walked the city and went to bars and clubs every single night. I can honestly say I didn't see a sniff of trouble. I never even saw two people arguing. Went swimming in the malecon with some locals. Police walked past blew a whistle and twenty people flew out of that sea quicker than a rat up a drain pipe. That's the power and obvious fear the locals have. No-one said a word to the cop and no one went back in for over an hour and it wasn't the same people who got out earlier. Scams you have to watch. Anyone who try to speak to you will come across as nice but then always asks for something, I had this many times. Count your change because they will steal from you that way. Taxi drivers are the worst but also the small shop under the Havana Libre hotel is terrible for short changing tourists. They really are blatant and it changes your opinion of them. People aren't starving in Cuba and both health care and university is free to anyone (practically). This is plain theft, simple as that. The whole place has been heavily brain washed into thinking the west and capitalism is the worth thing since sliced bread. Funny though how so many crave to leave! I always explain that life outside is not all London flats by the Thames or Disney World in Florida. Life is tough for us on the other side.

If you know of any dangers that I have missed then spread the word.

Cheers.You are a quick study. Yes, the danger is petty crime and minor scams though unaware tourists are victims of crimes of opportunity. It is a country to stay away from drugs also. Normally, they are fake or a setup. Prison in a country like Cuba usually leads to death from dysentry. That is unless your family likes you enough to pay someone to bring you food and water at the prison every day.

There are so many destinations to indulge your drug habit with fewer consequences than Cuba

NamasteParis
11-05-18, 21:35
Hi guys,

I am traveling to Havana for the first time in a month. I am a newbie and don't speak Spanish but want some fun. I am looking at the aribnb and how do I find a place that I could bring chica to? Are there any things to look for? What areas would be the best? Thanks a lot!RTFF! Have a quick snapshot of Cuba in the Links of distinction reports Section, and here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?500-General-Info&p=2150238&viewfull=1#post2150238

And my other posts, specific to mobile / internet.

Plus, some other golden rules:

1/ don't touch / use any drug.

2/ always check the girl is at least 18 year old.

3/ If anybody is coming to you like "Hey my friend!" don't even answer and walk straight. Not because they might be dangerous, but these people will steal your time, and maybe your money with their scam BS. The friendly people in Cuba (like in many countries) are the one you talk to, not the one talking to you without your consent. By not answering nor even looking at them, they know you know the game, and they won't bother you.

4/ don't try to invite a guest at your casa / hotel without registering her. If the girl doesn't want to register, find another place (that she certainly knows) to do the deed.

It's true that not speaking Spanish in Cuba is like not speaking Portuguese in Brazil: you will probably miss 80% of the country riches.
Enjoy!

Ty Down
11-06-18, 00:39
RTFF! Have a quick snapshot of Cuba in the Links of distinction reports Section, and here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?500-General-Info&p=2150238&viewfull=1#post2150238

And my other posts, specific to mobile / internet.

Plus, some other golden rules:

1/ don't touch / use any drug.

2/ always check the girl is at least 18 year old.

3/ If anybody is coming to you like "Hey my friend!" don't even answer and walk straight. Not because they might be dangerous, but these people will steal your time, and maybe your money with their scam BS. The friendly people in Cuba (like in many countries) are the one you talk to, not the one talking to you without your consent. By not answering nor even looking at them, they know you know the game, and they won't bother you.

4/ don't try to invite a guest at your casa / hotel without registering her. If the girl doesn't want to register, find another place (that she certainly knows) to do the deed.

It's true that not speaking Spanish in Cuba is like not speaking Portuguese in Brazil: you will probably miss 80% of the country riches.
Enjoy!Spot on Namaste. The girls know where to go.

On my first trip to Havana a couple years ago, I stayed here at Casa Particular Alejandro Penthouse – Independent Apartment.

http://bestcubaguide.com/portfolio-items/casa-particular-alejandro-penthouse-independent-apartment/

At the time I was totally unaware of the whole "registering every guest including me" deal, but at this casa we had reserved, the owner rarely showed up. The cleaning lady would come in around 9 am to cook breakfast and clean house, and she was gone by lunch time. So basically there wasn't anybody there to register guest, especially in the evenings and night. We had a blast!

It turned out to be an awesome casa, and the chicas loved it. Since then, I have found a few other casa's with the same arrangement.

Uncle Volodya
11-06-18, 11:36
Hi guys,

I will be travelling to Havana in a couple of days.

I usually have my casa owner arrange the airport pick-up. However, this time my usual place is booked and the owner where I will be staying just suggested I take one of the yellow taxis available at the airport when you leave departures.

Does anyone have any tips about airport taxis or any insights about taxi scams to avoid?

Many thanks!

Uncle-V.

Chris H
11-06-18, 12:59
Hi guys,

I will be travelling to Havana in a couple of days.

I usually have my casa owner arrange the airport pick-up. However, this time my usual place is booked and the owner where I will be staying just suggested I take one of the yellow taxis available at the airport when you leave departures.

Does anyone have any tips about airport taxis or any insights about taxi scams to avoid?

Many thanks!

Uncle-V.If our normal guy can't come get us and take us to Centro for 15 cuc, we just go upstairs, where they are dropping people off, and get one of those taxis to take us to for 20 cuc. That's better than nothing, especially since they are headed back to town anyways.

Uncle Volodya
11-06-18, 14:29
If our normal guy can't come get us and take us to Centro for 15 cuc, we just go upstairs, where they are dropping people off, and get one of those taxis to take us to for 20 cuc. That's better than nothing, especially since they are headed back to town anyways.Awesome! Thanks Chris!

Turgid
11-07-18, 15:21
3/ If anybody is coming to you like "Hey my friend!" don't even answer and walk straight. Not because they might be dangerous, but these people will steal your time, and maybe your money with their scam BS. The friendly people in Cuba (like in many countries) are the one you talk to, not the one talking to you without your consent. By not answering nor even looking at them, they know you know the game, and they won't bother you.....I may be overly courteous but I have never passed these guys straight without an acknowledgement. I do not find it a waste of my time engaging these guys. I am in their country and always try to get some information from them. As with everything in life you must use your brain. I have been burnt especially in my early travelling days some 40 years ago but even then I got some benefits. Havana has many hustlers who on seeing an estrangero will fancy their chances of getting a buck or two. Havana is probably the safest city I have ever been to. While they're trying to sell me whatever I use the opportunity to get info from them if I need such, no money passes of course. In other more dangerous cities I will courteously say 'no thanks' at an opportune time. Who knows you may need their services one way or the other later on.

DarrenGap
11-07-18, 22:26
I may be overly courteous but I have never passed these guys straight without an acknowledgement. I do not find it a waste of my time engaging these guys. I am in their country and always try to get some information from them. As with everything in life you must use your brain. I have been burnt especially in my early travelling days some 40 years ago but even then I got some benefits. Havana has many hustlers who on seeing an estrangero will fancy their chances of getting a buck or two. Havana is probably the safest city I have ever been to. While they're trying to sell me whatever I use the opportunity to get info from them if I need such, no money passes of course. In other more dangerous cities I will courteously say 'no thanks' at an opportune time. Who knows you may need their services one way or the other later on.I got a great chica from one of those stop-you-in-the-street type guys when I was in Habana prevs, was glad to have listened in that case.

I find I have to evaluate the hustler quickly and calmly so they're not offended. Are they likely to know great chica's, if they're in rags nice chica's won't be friends with them, do they listen, are they trying to source chica's or do they have one they will foist on you whatever you ask of them.

Sort of "suck it and see" .

OzzyHead
11-12-18, 22:17
I went in October and stayed in Vedado. I was traveling solo mainly to sightsee but I was open to some short term company if it interested me. I didn't even see a hint of any action. A few cab drivers offered their numbers to me if I wanted to go to "Fantasy" to meet girls later at night, but aside from that, no unsolicited offers whatsoever. I was daily all over Veija Havana, saw just about every major site there, but wasn't approached at all. The only people that came up were juniper is offering directions, bars recommendations, asking for tips, and even the powdered milk scam. There was one adorable girl behind a counter in a local pizzeria in Vedado that was smiling very flirty, and even did a Sharon Stone style leg cross (with panties), but the girl taking my order was standing in front of her and I was on the other side of the counter with half a dozen of their delivery guys and their motorcycles. I don't see how that deal was supposed to be made since she only did it while no one else could see her.

I'm sure if I went into a club in Miramar at night it would've been a different story, but the bars and restaurants at night in Vedado seem pretty PG.

Dave1111
11-13-18, 04:00
I went in October and stayed in Vedado. I was traveling solo mainly to sightsee but I was open to some short term company if it interested me. I didn't even see a hint of any action. A few cab drivers offered their numbers to me if I wanted to go to "Fantasy" to meet girls later at night, but aside from that, no unsolicited offers whatsoever. I was daily all over Veija Havana, saw just about every major site there, but wasn't approached at all. The only people that came up were juniper is offering directions, bars recommendations, asking for tips, and even the powdered milk scam. There was one adorable girl behind a counter in a local pizzeria in Vedado that was smiling very flirty, and even did a Sharon Stone style leg cross (with panties), but the girl taking my order was standing in front of her and I was on the other side of the counter with half a dozen of their delivery guys and their motorcycles. I don't see how that deal was supposed to be made since she only did it while no one else could see her.

I'm sure if I went into a club in Miramar at night it would've been a different story, but the bars and restaurants at night in Vedado seem pretty PG.Yes, Cuba is dying, god knows what the police etc have done. Doesn't seem a very happy place at the moment. No birds about or approaches. I was here a year ago and totally different. Not many people smiling and having fun. Casa particular owners getting very rich, probably Ģ500 a week and everyone else very skint. Doesn't make for a happy ending!!

Club fantaxy was heaving on Friday night, 500 people super crammed in, god help everyone if there is a fire. Took for ever to get a beer. 30 freelancers, but so noisy and cramped, good luck to chatting with them.

Security is really pushy, you can't stand anywhere off the dance floor without them directing you here their and everywhere.

Went to oola la (pronounced the french way) in vedadado 17 street. It's a new name but used to be Sharon or something like that. Nice place, 15 cup entrance that's a bit dear. Good music and maybe 15 freelancers, lots of rich Cubans. Security was again very direct, you would think they were protecting the president. Maybe the clubs have been given a big warning as a year ago was way more relaxed.

Birds asking 150 cuc. I said 40. They said no, but an hour later one said yes to 40. I had drank too many beers and it was a no. Lots of birds didn't have customers. Some fools have been paying 150 cuc and now they all think that's what they are worth. The birds also didn't put any effort in, again maybe they are terrified of the security. I really don't know what has happened here. I also recon obesity is running at 80% here. Lots of fat stomachs, they eat rolls and cheese all day long. Hardly seen any women in good shape unless they are under 20. And I thought Europe had an obesity problem.

Maybe I am being too critical. I was in habana libre today and got nice smiles from two thirty year old receptionists. They were game on. Everyone I spoke to would love to get out of the country. They still all think Americans live in big houses with swimming pools and are stinking rich, they also think Europe is the land of milk and honey. I try to tell them different but that's what they think!

Everyone is still ripping tourists off. Even the etecsca kiosk ripped an American off yesterday. She demanded 20 cuc for a five hour internet card, the price is 5 cuc because I just paid that at the etecsca office two hours before. I told the guy and he was furious and marched back over, not sure what happened. So even people in official jobs rip off the tourists. Long term this will ruin them.

Ty Down
11-13-18, 05:37
Yes, Cuba is dying, god knows what the police etc have done. Doesn't seem a very happy place at the moment. No birds about or approaches. I was here a year ago and totally different. Not many people smiling and having fun. Casa particular owners getting very rich, probably 500 a week and everyone else very skint. Doesn't make for a happy ending!!

Club fantaxy was heaving on Friday night, 500 people super crammed in, god help everyone if there is a fire. Took for ever to get a beer. 30 freelancers, but so noisy and cramped, good luck to chatting with them.

Security is really pushy, you can't stand anywhere off the dance floor without them directing you here their and everywhere.

Went to oola la (pronounced the french way) in vedadado 17 street. It's a new name but used to be Sharon or something like that. Nice place, 15 cup entrance that's a bit dear. Good music and maybe 15 freelancers, lots of rich Cubans. Security was again very direct, you would think they were protecting the president. Maybe the clubs have been given a big warning as a year ago was way more relaxed.

Birds asking 150 cuc. I said 40. They said no, but an hour later one said yes to 40. I had drank too many beers and it was a no. Lots of birds didn't have customers. Some fools have been paying 150 cuc and now they all think that's what they are worth. The birds also didn't put any effort in, again maybe they are terrified of the security. I really don't know what has happened here. I also recon obesity is running at 80% here. Lots of fat stomachs, they eat rolls and cheese all day long. Hardly seen any women in good shape unless they are under 20. And I thought Europe had an obesity problem.

Maybe I am being too critical. I was in habana libre today and got nice smiles from two thirty year old receptionists. They were game on. Everyone I spoke to would love to get out of the country. They still all think Americans live in big houses with swimming pools and are stinking rich, they also think Europe is the land of milk and honey. I try to tell them different but that's what they think!

Everyone is still ripping tourists off. Even the etecsca kiosk ripped an American off yesterday. She demanded 20 cuc for a five hour internet card, the price is 5 cuc because I just paid that at the etecsca office two hours before. I told the guy and he was furious and marched back over, not sure what happened. So even people in official jobs rip off the tourists. Long term this will ruin them.Cuba is crumbling right before our eyes. Literally.

November 20,2016 - President Donald Trump elected President of the United States Of America.

November 25,2016 . Fidel Castro dies.

My prediction is. Trump will crush the Cuban government and free the Cuban people. Just like President Ronald Reagan tore down that Wall in Berlin.

The Tall Man
11-13-18, 06:33
Yes, Cuba is dying, god knows what the police etc have done. Doesn't seem a very happy place at the moment. No birds about or approaches. I was here a year ago and totally different. Not many people smiling and having fun. Casa particular owners getting very rich, probably 500 a week and everyone else very skint. Doesn't make for a happy ending!!

Club fantaxy was heaving on Friday night, 500 people super crammed in, god help everyone if there is a fire. Took for ever to get a beer. 30 freelancers, but so noisy and cramped, good luck to chatting with them.

Security is really pushy, you can't stand anywhere off the dance floor without them directing you here their and everywhere.

Went to oola la (pronounced the french way) in vedadado 17 street. It's a new name but used to be Sharon or something like that. Nice place, 15 cup entrance that's a bit dear. Good music and maybe 15 freelancers, lots of rich Cubans. Security was again very direct, you would think they were protecting the president. Maybe the clubs have been given a big warning as a year ago was way more relaxed.

Birds asking 150 cuc. I said 40. They said no, but an hour later one said yes to 40. I had drank too many beers and it was a no. Lots of birds didn't have customers. Some fools have been paying 150 cuc and now they all think that's what they are worth. The birds also didn't put any effort in, again maybe they are terrified of the security. I really don't know what has happened here. I also recon obesity is running at 80% here. Lots of fat stomachs, they eat rolls and cheese all day long. Hardly seen any women in good shape unless they are under 20. And I thought Europe had an obesity problem.

Maybe I am being too critical. I was in habana libre today and got nice smiles from two thirty year old receptionists. They were game on. Everyone I spoke to would love to get out of the country. They still all think Americans live in big houses with swimming pools and are stinking rich, they also think Europe is the land of milk and honey. I try to tell them different but that's what they think!

Everyone is still ripping tourists off. Even the etecsca kiosk ripped an American off yesterday. She demanded 20 cuc for a five hour internet card, the price is 5 cuc because I just paid that at the etecsca office two hours before. I told the guy and he was furious and marched back over, not sure what happened. So even people in official jobs rip off the tourists. Long term this will ruin them.I am sooooo glad I visited Cuba 3. 5 years ago, before the die-down, it is a shame but no problem just head over to the fun places to play in other countries!

The Tall Man.

Mondo707
11-17-18, 06:27
Hey,

Just a heads up about the 500th anniversary of La Habana just started today and will be celebrated throughout the year culminating on November 16th 2019.

Projections are for a 15% +/- increase in the number of tourists visiting. So, be aware of this when making your plans to visit. Have read there are special events which will take place during this time frame with the biggest one being on the anniversary date.

Mondo.

Uncle Volodya
11-17-18, 18:24
Just a heads up warning. It seems Fridays are gay night at Pico Blanco. I made the mistake last night. This is what I understood from the waiter before I made my escape from there.

Fortunately I wasn't really looking to hook up as I had a lovely session with my 19 yr old med student earlier in the evening.

Walked around La Rampa after looking for food and it seems the whole neighborhood had transformed into a gay scene for the night. :

This make 0/2 for Pico Blanco this trip. I tried going there last Saturday around midnigjt and they stopped letting people in as it was booked over capacity.

Will post more info on my trip soon.

Stay horny my friends!

Uncle-V.

Kafka
11-18-18, 01:07
Yes, Cuba is dying, god knows what the police etc have done. Doesn't seem a very happy place at the moment. No birds about or approaches. I was here a year ago and totally different. Not many people smiling and having fun. Casa particular owners getting very rich, probably 500 a week and everyone else very skint. Doesn't make for a happy ending!!

Club fantaxy was heaving on Friday night, 500 people super crammed in, god help everyone if there is a fire. Took for ever to get a beer. 30 freelancers, but so noisy and cramped, good luck to chatting with them.

Security is really pushy, you can't stand anywhere off the dance floor without them directing you here their and everywhere.

Went to oola la (pronounced the french way) in vedadado 17 street. It's a new name but used to be Sharon or something like that. Nice place, 15 cup entrance that's a bit dear. Good music and maybe 15 freelancers, lots of rich Cubans. Security was again very direct, you would think they were protecting the president. Maybe the clubs have been given a big warning as a year ago was way more relaxed.

Birds asking 150 cuc. I said 40. They said no, but an hour later one said yes to 40. I had drank too many beers and it was a no. Lots of birds didn't have customers. Some fools have been paying 150 cuc and now they all think that's what they are worth. The birds also didn't put any effort in, again maybe they are terrified of the security. I really don't know what has happened here. I also recon obesity is running at 80% here. Lots of fat stomachs, they eat rolls and cheese all day long. Hardly seen any women in good shape unless they are under 20. And I thought Europe had an obesity problem.

Maybe I am being too critical. I was in habana libre today and got nice smiles from two thirty year old receptionists. They were game on. Everyone I spoke to would love to get out of the country. They still all think Americans live in big houses with swimming pools and are stinking rich, they also think Europe is the land of milk and honey. I try to tell them different but that's what they think!

Everyone is still ripping tourists off. Even the etecsca kiosk ripped an American off yesterday. She demanded 20 cuc for a five hour internet card, the price is 5 cuc because I just paid that at the etecsca office two hours before. I told the guy and he was furious and marched back over, not sure what happened. So even people in official jobs rip off the tourists. Long term this will ruin them.This confirms my last trip there in September. Things are really off in Cuba right now.

Uncle Volodya
11-18-18, 01:16
This confirms my last trip there in September. Things are really off in Cuba right now.Not all bad. I've managed to hook up with a few hotties I met on La Rampa. Police presence very much beefed up. Hard to hook up at night. Best to met girls durring day and then get their numbers and arrange to come over later.

Moat girls still GFE. Girls keen to hook up and call incessantly for repeat session.

but yes definitely see a decline from just a few months ago.

LxrUS
11-18-18, 08:11
Not all bad. I've managed to hook up with a few hotties I met on La Rampa. Police presence very much beefed up. Hard to hook up at night. Best to met girls durring day and then get their numbers and arrange to come over later.

Moat girls still GFE. Girls keen to hook up and call incessantly for repeat session.

but yes definitely see a decline from just a few months ago.Looks like it will be very difficult without speaking Spanish and having a local phone then?

Uncle Volodya
11-18-18, 21:03
Looks like it will be very difficult without speaking Spanish and having a local phone then?Yes that sounds about right. But you don't need all that much Spanish and a local sim not impossible to get.

discos are another option. though i havent really been out to them all that much.

Pokeris
11-19-18, 00:34
Arrived yesterday from Bogota with cheap wingo air airlines roundtrip ticket cost just 190 dollars. The imigrattion procedure not take so long and after 30 minutes from landing I was already at ATM machines at airport. I ask the girl how much is maximum allowed to take from cash machine from one go. She told me 500 cuc. My bank card allowed just 370 cuc per one time it was without any charge. As someone mentioned here before about taxi prices I walk upstairs to departure level saw taxi driver and ask how much to vedado he told me 20. I offer him 15 cuc and he agree. It was old lada taxi but it was fun to ride.

I arrived at my private apartament which I rented from airbnb 35 dollars per night. Have kitchen, living room balcony, landline phone, aircondition, tv and all other things you can need also its at perfect location its just opositte la habana libre hotel. I walk to check some places daytime sofia cafeteria was full with normal tourist not working girls either. I like this place but waitress here try rip you off if you not check our bill properly. I come here first time I order chicken for 5. 5 cuc to eat and one beer which I didint checked price at first. The bill come 10.5 cuc. I not pay attention and pay it. Just later I find out the beer price was 1. 5 cuc so she rip me off on 3. 5 cuc. Its my mistake next time I will check price before.

I walked at malecon around 15 pm evening but it was dead I saw just 1-2 ugly freelancers. I walk to fosca office and buy 5 hours internet card for 5 cuc they ask passport but I didn't have it they accept copy on my phone. 5 pm evening I supposed have a date at sofia cafeteria with a girl which I arriange on whatsapp couple hours ago before I fly to havana. Wait till 5. 30 pm she didint come. I drink 2 beers at sofia cafeteria and bill come 4 cuc. I told waitress why 4 cuc if beer just 1. 5 cuc? She get confused and said you drink also one water. I said no I didint and she change the bill to 3 cuc. (this time she wasnt lucky to rip me off) . I go to check out other place club la red around 18.00 pm evening it was packed with cuban girls and cuban man. It was like a disco inside everybody was dancing and drinking. Saw some cute girls inside walk around and left.

I comeback my apartament and thought I will try to call from landline phone to some Cuba mobile numbers and it was working. I call one girl from my facebook contacts but she didint answer. After 30 minutes she call be back and ask something in spanish. I told in english my name and she remember me. She know 200 words in english I know 50 in spanish so we make conversation somehow and arriange a meeting at 9 pm evening next to my apartament in front of havana libre hotel. She come on time and was looking great. Small light black girl with nice body 20 years old. We go to drink at some bar later we hit some night time places. First place we visited was pico blanco on Saturday night it was 3 cuc entry was full of people I saw at least 4-5 girls I liked at this place. We sit here have couple of drinks and left to la gruta club on Saturday it was 5 cuc entry I really like this club and we spend 2-3 hours here drinking and dancing. Have many people inside but most of them was cuban girls and guys I didint see many foreigners. Was some nice girls inside also.

We left club and was little bit both drunk with a girl. She ask me its ok if she sleep with me at my apartament together I said sure. We comeback apartament and jump to bed that girl was great at bed we fucked 2-3 hours she make me cum 3 times. We wake up in morning have some breakfast together after go look old havana city, she was holding my hand in public sometimes and hug seems she wasnt scary of police. We comeback apartament and fucked again. I was thinking to give her 40 cuc at first for spend all night and day together but she never mentioned money and said she is going back home and change her clothes but she want see me again tonight if its ok for me. I said sure. I bought her internet card for 5 cuc give 3 cuc for taxi publico go and back and 5 cuc to put money for calling at her phone. So my first cuban pussy was almost half free.

Tonight I will spend again with same girl but tomorrow I try get rid of her because I prefer change girls than stay with same girl longer time. Also other forum member coming here Monday so maybe we hit some mongering places together. Add girl pic from the back.

Mr Gogo
11-19-18, 03:07
Great reporting Sir. Sofias is known for doing that bullshit, I always pay after every drink or go to the bar and order it myself. Twice in the past the guy waiters have had amnesia about how many drinks I have ordered.

I would have sneaked the 40 cuc into the purse as a gift. Some have dignity and don't want to ask for money like a jinitera. She stayed with you all day and night and fucked you repeatedly and didn't ask for anything but wants to come back, possibly playing the long game. By slipping something into her purse it makes it harder for her to come crazy later saying you owe her this and that. These third world country girls don't fuck foreigners for free unless you look like like Brad Pitt or they are stupid or they are in love. If they are meeting foreign guys on social media they are neither naive or stupid. Some things are meant to be understood with Cubanas, but not necessarily discussed.

La Grunta usually has girls swarming on tourist, was surprised they left you alone. Maybe it was couples night.

Again, thanks for reporting and please report back.

OzzyHead
11-19-18, 05:46
As a novice, or someone not fluent in Spanish, Havana is currently the drizzling shits for a mongering vacation unless you want to head to the clubs and pay a premium (probably.

More than you would in the States. That being said, it's still an awesome.

Vacation and somewhere you should see if you are a man's man with a bucket list. There's a rich history, a lot to see, cheap rum. And great cigars if you are street smart enough to avoid the scams and avoid all street recommendations.


Not all bad. I've managed to hook up with a few hotties I met on La Rampa. Police presence very much beefed up. Hard to hook up at night. Best to met girls durring day and then get their numbers and arrange to come over later.

Moat girls still GFE. Girls keen to hook up and call incessantly for repeat session.

but yes definitely see a decline from just a few months ago.

Pokeris
11-19-18, 06:01
Great reporting Sir. Sofias is known for doing that bullshit, I always pay after every drink or go to the bar and order it myself. Twice in the past the guy waiters have had amnesia about how many drinks I have ordered.

I would have sneaked the 40 cuc into the purse as a gift. Some have dignity and don't want to ask for money like a jinitera. She stayed with you all day and night and fucked you repeatedly and didn't ask for anything but wants to come back, possibly playing the long game. By slipping something into her purse it makes it harder for her to come crazy later saying you owe her this and that. These third world country girls don't fuck foreigners for free unless you look like like Brad Pitt or they are stupid or they are in love. If they are meeting foreign guys on social media they are neither naive or stupid. Some things are meant to be understood with Cubanas, but not necessarily discussed.

La Grunta usually has girls swarming on tourist, was surprised they left you alone. Maybe it was couples night.

Again, thanks for reporting and please report back.I was with a girl at la grunta probably what's why girls don't pay attention at me. Maybe I should give her 40 cuc, so was more easy to get rid of her, because now she comeback my apartament with bag of clothes for 4-5 days. Seems she want spend longer time with me. I try to keep her for daytime action. I Will find excuse what at night time I am going meet my friends and will spend my time with them and we can meet just daytimes if she agree its fine if not its no problem also. One girl for holidays is not for me.

Pokeris
11-19-18, 07:04
Meet my girl and I offer go to have some food somewhere and check internet at same time. We walk to sofia cafeteria they said they not have many food this time late at night so we just have limonade and I offered go cafeteria la rampa because they opening 24 hours. When we walk out 50 metres from cafeteria 4 policeman stop us they don't bother me but ask girl ID and check something on radio and write her details on paper. Girl was really confused I saw from her face. They talk something about 1-2 minutes give her ID back and let us go. We walk to cafeteria la ramba order some food and ask girl to explain on google translator, why they stop us and what's happen. She said police told her they checking girls for prostitution and if she want walk with foreigner she need have some letter from ambassador or something like that. They told here today everything is fine but next time it they see us again it can be problem. Now I am understand why girls scared of police here.

Mr Gogo
11-19-18, 08:50
Funny, but your reports mirror mine. How do we get them to like us but not fall in love with us? I love Sofias also even though the food is average and they cheat us, but it's a great hangout spot with free music. Let's not even talk about the lady who guards the bathroom with military precision. I win over a girl and fuck her silly for 48 hours then want to hangout with my boys and use the girl as a last option plan. I feel you totally. We even call these fallback girls our girls. They fall hard and they always come with either tears or anger when we detach.

Sounds like she was playing the long game but she will have to just understand that you want to hang with your buddies (Thank goodness for buddies). I won't say much more because I'm enjoying your reports and want to see how it all plays out. Good luck.

Pokeris
11-19-18, 16:10
As after police check girl who staying with me was little bit scared and don't want walk on streets and go any disco anymore, she ask can we comeback apartament and spend time here, we was walking from la rampa cafeteria next to my apartament and I saw the blue lights playing on the last floor of la habana libre hotel. I said her lets go to check it out. We walk in hotel and ask some guy inside do they have disco here and he told yes it was 1 am already and we ask what time they close he told us 3 am and entry fee is 10 cuc per person. We take a lift to the 25 floor I pay 20 cuc and they give us 2 tickets. We go inside it was 15-20 people in total maybe 3-4 ugly hoes with costumers drinking. The crystal beer cost 4 cuc for 1 can. This place was waste of money. The one think I like it here was just nice view of havana from 25 floor you can see all malecon and around. Finish beer and comeback apartament.

Mr Enternational
11-19-18, 18:25
These third world country girls don't fuck foreigners for free unless you look like like Brad Pitt or they are stupid or they are in love. He does look like Brad Pitt. We were hanging out in Rio the other day and he was using me to beat the girls off of him.

Maybe I should give her 40 cuc, so was more easy to get rid of her, because now she comeback my apartament with bag of clothes for 4-5 days.LOL

Chris H
11-19-18, 18:41
Meet my girl and I offer go to have some food somewhere and check internet at same time. We walk to sofia cafeteria they said they not have many food this time late at night so we just have limonade and I offered go cafeteria la rampa because they opening 24 hours. When we walk out 50 metres from cafeteria 4 policeman stop us they don't bother me but ask girl ID and check something on radio and write her details on paper. Girl was really confused I saw from her face. They talk something about 1-2 minutes give her ID back and let us go. We walk to cafeteria la ramba order some food and ask girl to explain on google translator, why they stop us and what's happen. She said police told her they checking girls for prostitution and if she want walk with foreigner she need have some letter from ambassador or something like that. They told here today everything is fine but next time it they see us again it can be problem. Now I am understand why girls scared of police here.That's weird, I walk with girls all the time in Havana. I have heard that it's an issue, but nothing has ever happened with me. Hopefully that continues this week!!

Pokeris
11-19-18, 21:25
He does look like Brad Pitt. We were hanging out in Rio the other day and he was using me to beat the girls off of him.
LOLHaha I wish mr enternational!

BeersTerry
11-19-18, 21:27
As prostitution is heavily frowned upon, the police tend to check girls with foreigners. They tell you over and over, having a relationship with a Cuban is not illegal. Buying sex is. Once a girl is caught / registered with a foreigner, there is a record and if she is with other foreigners. Well, it is an issue for the girls.

That said, cops often can tell or know the girls that have been caught before. Then there are the dead giveaways i.e. 100 year old guys with 20 y.o. girls

They also tend to shake down girls.

I don't know if it still is but at one point parts of the malecon were protected in that a group of girls were paying the police off, who in turn were keeping the area "clean" for them such that only they could ply their trade in that stretch.

Some girls are just not aware and hence have no hesitation.

Pokeris
11-20-18, 16:46
Wake up in a morning with my girl have some breakfast and take taxi publico from vedado to old havana after another one to playes de este beach total cost 3. 5 cuc each. Spend 3-4 hours and comeback vedado with taxi publicos again. Have some nap fucked couple of times and 7 pm evening I told her I am going to meet my friends at 9 pm so I can do some mongering. She ask me can we see each other next day I told sure. We have some dinner together she was prepared to leave I give her around 30 cuc and told this is for you to buy internet cards and put money at phone and on taxi publicos when you come to me next time. She seems suprised I give her money but was looking happy. We went out she catch taxi publico home and I start to check some mongering places.

Club la red was closed at Monday 9 pm evening after I checked paladar LOS amigos it was completely empty. I meet uncle volodya at sofia have some drinks together and he left for to meet a girl. I walk at avenida 23 close to malecon saw some girls giving me eye contact but they was not good looking. One hustler was siting with 2 girls white and black one white was so so he saw I was loooking at her so he start to following me and start offering chicas I said how much for 1 hour? He said 40 I told him I give 20 cuc he goes to the girl talk something comeback to me with black girl which I didn't like and said 25 cuc. I said I like white girl he told me 30 cuc I said 20 cuc he didint agree so I left. Later I want check pico blanco but it was closed on Monday evening so I walk to la gruta entry fee is 2 or 3 cuc on weekdays it was really quiet maybe 20 people inside I saw 2 cute girls in total I like I ask one how much she want for 1 hour she said 60 I offer her 30 she didint agree. I talk with other girl she want 50 for 1 hour I offer 30 she didn't agree either. Walk out saw another good looking girl on street offer her 20 cuc she want 40 so I walk away. Walk little bit around try to talk with some girls but they ignore me because police was near. Later I checked club tikoa near sofia cafeteria it was 5 cuc entry when I talk in couple hoes jump on me and start asking for drink I just ignore them didint see any girls I like drink beer and left. Next to sofia cafeteria I saw another hustler who speak god english he start offering 2 girls which was sitting with him he saw I not very interesting on his offer and told him I can talk with girls myself so he offer to choose one of the girl for 30 cuc I was just walking he star following me and said ok take for 20 the girls was not my type.

I was dissapointed at mongering choice at vedado and at 2 pm was walking my apartament next to havana libre hotel I though I need check club fantaxy to have a look how expensive havana bitches looks like I catch taxi for 10 cuc and arrived it was nice looking place with many people inside dancing and sitting on red sofas, I saw some good looking girls here but wasnt keen to make any deal because I know they asking silly prices I just drink one water walk around and left. I want check mio & tuyo club because it was very close to fantaxy but taxi drivers outside was asking 10 cuc for 1 kilomitre ride I offered 4 but nobody agreed. I was thinking to walk with google maps offline because it not far but my baterry on phone was almost dead so I change my mind walk on the main road catch taxi for 10 cuc and comeback vedado. Close to havana libre hotel I saw one cute hoe was sitting I ask how much she want for 1 hour? She told me 80 I said 20 she refuse I walk back my apartament was dissapointed at mongering here. Seems better if I was staying and fuck my cute girl for free or small money instead I waste my time.

Uncle Volodya
11-20-18, 19:35
It was good to meet up with Poekris and Chris G and his boys lat night. Good guys, very knowledgeable, and ready to share info and advice. Unfortunately I am flying back today (writing this at the airport) so I didn't have a chance to do all that much mongering. I hoep we will ahve a chance to make up for this I and the future, in Havana and elsewhere on this Mongering Planet.

Me and Chris G had some luck meeting girls on the Malecon between the Hotel Deauville and the Fort in the early evening. Around 7, 8 Pm. All the girls we met seemed fun, bubbly, and DTF. There is less of a police presence there than on La Rampa. However, girls still very worried about the police. Unfortunately It was my last night and I had a date with my favorite girl, so I didn't have a chance to try any og the girls. But Maybe Chris G will partake over the next few days.

I am serious thinking of renting a Casa in Vieja next trip so I can work this area. Maybe split my time here and in Vedado next trip. Just for a change of pace.

I should have spent more time out on the street meeting girls and less in Discos, like Fataxy, which for me are a total waste. Havana is all about the street life scene. That; s where the younger, fresh, GFE girls can be found and it is what makes Havana special and unique. But you need to be patient, hang out, and take the imitative to make it work. Also try and work other areas besides Vedado as there is a crackdown in full effect there now. Though I still managed to pull 3 nice looking new girls there this trip.

IMHO Havana is still a good destination. But its not point and shoot like Pattaya but requires some knowledge and footwork.

Will post more info and details about my trip soon.

Stay horny my friends.

Unce-V.

Pokeris
11-21-18, 02:38
Go out early today 6 pm evening first place I visited was club la red it was 2 cuc entry have 20-30 people inside I liked 2 girls here but they was with cuban BF already. Bought one beer for 1 cuc drink and left. Walk to cafeteria sofia have some food this place is always empty just 1-2 old hoe.

7 pm start walk from on malecon to old havana side next to the hospital on malecon I saw 2 girls was sitting one white other black both good looking but black better I come to them make small conversation till my spanish skills finished and I take google translator out. The girl name was camila 22 years old. I suggest black girl go my apartament have some drinks she ask how much I give her? I text 20 cuc for 1 hour she text me back 40 cuc I said its to much love and offer 25 cuc she said no. I said ok lets meet tomorrow daytime for 25 when and take her number. She text me back we can go now but not for 25. I know probably I overpaid little bit but I don't want 5 cuc ruin my shag again. I said I give you 30 cuc and its my maximum she said lets go. I said I stay near havana libre hotel and show her apartament address. She said I walk you follow me behind little bit away.

We was walking maybe 10-15 minutes to my apartament I was following little bit away and this girl get 2 attentions from diffrent cuban mans they come to her and start talk till she was walking 10 metres in front of me. We come apartament make shower together she hs nice body and big boobs. Jump on the bed BBBJ follows after sex into diffrent positions I take condom off and she start suck again I cum into her mouth. She run to the bathroom and spit it out. I ask her some photos but she refuse just allowed one pic from the back. I ask her how much she want for all night she said 90 I said its to much I can give you 60 and she agree (I will not take her long time its to much for me anyway but maybe someone want) . I pay her 30 cuc she give me kiss at cheek and walk away. I will share her photo from back and I can share her number for some senior member who active on this forum. Will try hit some clubs tonight maybe will get some luck!

GrownMan1
11-21-18, 03:01
Funny, but your reports mirror mine. How do we get them to like us but not fall in love with us? I love Sofias also even though the food is average and they cheat us, but it's a great hangout spot with free music. Let's not even talk about the lady who guards the bathroom with military precision. I win over a girl and fuck her silly for 48 hours then want to hangout with my boys and use the girl as a last option plan. I feel you totally. We even call these fallback girls our girls. They fall hard and they always come with either tears or anger when we detach.

Sounds like she was playing the long game but she will have to just understand that you want to hang with your buddies (Thank goodness for buddies). I won't say much more because I'm enjoying your reports and want to see how it all plays out. Good luck.Yes his report reminds me of reading yours. Like the time you had that Venezuela. She gave you an excellent GF performance all night and I think you tossed her 1500 pesos. My man Pokeris was contemplating on given the girl 40 cuc. For getting a similar experience.

In my experience if I'm going to hold a girl hostage for that long and used her for my vacation GF; I better put at least 40 in her pocket before she leaves after an all night fuck fiest. Or you run into the problem of her wanting to stay. She is fucking for free but it has its consequences. Like not knowing when to leave. Havanna has a huge population of young women looking for a legitimate Gringo boyfriend to take them to financial freedom.

Pokeris you cheap bastard I like your style. You watch your money. Your first time in Havana but you didn't come to make nobody rich. You refused compromise passed 20 bucks; you must have been hanging with Mr. E.

Pokeris
11-21-18, 03:18
Yes his report reminds me of reading yours. Like the time you had that Venezuela. She gave you an excellent GF performance all night and I think you tossed her 1500 pesos. My man Pokeris was contemplating on given the girl 40 cuc. For getting a similar experience.

In my experience if I'm going to hold a girl hostage for that long and used her for my vacation GF; I better put at least 40 in her pocket before she leaves after an all night fuck fiest. Or you run into the problem of her wanting to stay. She is fucking for free but it has its consequences. Like not knowing when to leave. Havanna has a huge population of young women looking for a legitimate Gringo boyfriend to take them to financial freedom.

Pokeris you cheap bastard I like your style. You watch your money. Your first time in Havana but you didn't come to make nobody rich. You refused compromise passed 20 bucks; you must have been hanging with Mr. E.I not cheap mate I just paying going rates. Mr enternational is not cheap either he just know what he is doing! Anyway after 2 days spend together with that girl in the end I give her around 30 cuc and she was happy. Today I have 3 calls on my landline phone till I was at apartament from that girl I didint answer because i still want do some mongering. God knows how many times she was calling me when I was out half day. That girl have great time with me and in the end get almost 1 moth cuban salary so what's wrong with it mate?
We are in Cuba!l so lets play by our rules!

DarrenGap
11-21-18, 03:34
Breezed in last week.

Its all a bit depressing.

All week the police were up and down la rampa. Big white truck and patrolling officers. Hardly any girls walking around. Even in the little side street with the coffee bar by sophies, the police were hassling the girls. What a bore!

I took a pretty but hardened street girl from there, early twenties, european looking and very pretty, she wanted $60 settled for $40.

Next day I went to Tikkoa and La Gruta on La Rampa, both pretty poor, La Gruta especially is a big pit that is difficult to navigate or find a corner. Tikkoa is small and dominated by a small group of chica's who all know each other.

Saw a fabulous big titted 21 year old called Rachel, stuffed it up not taking her home.

On the other hand found a nice (medium titted) 19 yo with her "uncle" next to Tikkoa as I went home. A bit of an issue trailing round till we lost the police and could get a taxi in peace. She was peachy she wanted $30, but I gave her $40 after a good effort and for having excellent tits.

Next day spent some time in Fantaxy, clientele 33% Cuban gangsters, 33% Chicas, 33% Euro Sex Tourists. They're the ones with permed curly hair and skin like sandpaper. Actually quite a lot of fun, but I couldn't be bothered with the $150 take out charges. The sexy chica dresses were good though.

I was staying in convenient and spacious casa in Vedado, $30 for house, had the key and no nosy neighbours.

One thing I noticed. Some girls hang at the top of La Rampa opposite Havana Libra hotel next to the Yara Cinema event place, they can sit down because theirs free wifi and lots of younger end folks congregate, and the police don't seem to go that high up the road. Took a mulatto girl with big tatoo'd tits who claimed to 23. And probably was.

Went back to Tikkoa, they had big tits rachel didn't want to miss her took straight back to casa, massive tits, good spanish looks, reddish short hair, pierced nips which scratched me when we got horizontal, which I liked.

Twice in one day! At my age! A big shout out to 20 MG generic Cialis.

Next day tried a late bar called Imperico in Vedado. OK, but empty, even at 2. 00 am when I called it a night.

Its noticeably less girls than even a couple of years ago, noticeably more calories available for the entire population. (see the girls for proof). Looks like the aching poverty is lessened, so less girls feel the need to be public mongering to make up the money.

Last day I thought I'd wander round see what's in the old town. Did so for hours not finding any likely candidates, then just as I was giving up, result - 25 yo sweet black girl with the firmest damn tits, and we ducked into a local house, said "Hi" to the owner eating his dinner, paired off in a squalid little bedroom and banged one out. She asked for $25, but I was generous and after the deed upped it a bit make her happy.

Plaza de Cristo near Tienete Ray has wifi lots of locals and has some new and fun bars around it, some with lots of girls in the evening, didin't get a chance to check them out as I was homeward bound. Remember though like all of tourist-Cuba its shut at 12 to 1. 00 am or thereabouts.

To be honest the mongering worlds getting smaller and smaller. Even Cubans are thinking twice now. Without the girls there's not much point going really, its 9 hours from europe for sweaty bars, crap food and cheapish drinks, without the copious girls not sure what the point is.

Where next? 10 years ago I was in Cartagena, that was fun, although I believe its super expensive and much reduced now. Do I join the ballers in Dominican Republic, the thread on Sosua is all about how its gone downhill.

Lima? Could be good, but by jiminy its a long flight. Or two from europe.

Rio. Scary when I last went again about a decade ago, and since help closed I just don't think itll be the same.

Flat-tit asians don't do it for me, so looks like its "back to africa" maybe. Kenya and Ethiopia have been good to me in the past, maybe again next year.

DarrenG signing off. As they say "keep yo' pimp hand strong. ".

Mondo707
11-21-18, 06:46
Breezed in last week.

Its all a bit depressing.

All week the police were up and down la rampa. Big white truck and patrolling officers. Hardly any girls walking around. Even in the little side street with the coffee bar by sophies, the police were hassling the girls. What a bore!

I took a pretty but hardened street girl from there, early twenties, european looking and very pretty, she wanted $60 settled for $40.

Next day I went to Tikkoa and La Gruta on La Rampa, both pretty poor, La Gruta especially is a big pit that is difficult to navigate or find a corner. Tikkoa is small and dominated by a small group of chica's who all know each other.

Saw a fabulous big titted 21 year old called Rachel, stuffed it up not taking her home.

On the other hand found a nice (medium titted) 19 yo with her "uncle" next to Tikkoa as I went home. A bit of an issue trailing round till we lost the police and could get a taxi in peace. She was peachy she wanted $30, but I gave her $40 after a good effort and for having excellent tits.

Next day spent some time in Fantaxy, clientele 33% Cuban gangsters, 33% Chicas, 33% Euro Sex Tourists. They're the ones with permed curly hair and skin like sandpaper. Actually quite a lot of fun, but I couldn't be bothered with the $150 take out charges. The sexy chica dresses were good though.

I was staying in convenient and spacious casa in Vedado, $30 for house, had the key and no nosy neighbours.

One thing I noticed. Some girls hang at the top of La Rampa opposite Havana Libra hotel next to the Yara Cinema event place, they can sit down because theirs free wifi and lots of younger end folks congregate, and the police don't seem to go that high up the road. Took a mulatto girl with big tatoo'd tits who claimed to 23. And probably was.

Went back to Tikkoa, they had big tits rachel didn't want to miss her took straight back to casa, massive tits, good spanish looks, reddish short hair, pierced nips which scratched me when we got horizontal, which I liked.

Twice in one day! At my age! A big shout out to 20 MG generic Cialis.

Next day tried a late bar called Imperico in Vedado. OK, but empty, even at 2. 00 am when I called it a night.

Its noticeably less girls than even a couple of years ago, noticeably more calories available for the entire population. (see the girls for proof). Looks like the aching poverty is lessened, so less girls feel the need to be public mongering to make up the money.

Last day I thought I'd wander round see what's in the old town. Did so for hours not finding any likely candidates, then just as I was giving up, result - 25 yo sweet black girl with the firmest damn tits, and we ducked into a local house, said "Hi" to the owner eating his dinner, paired off in a squalid little bedroom and banged one out. She asked for $25, but I was generous and after the deed upped it a bit make her happy.

Plaza de Cristo near Tienete Ray has wifi lots of locals and has some new and fun bars around it, some with lots of girls in the evening, didin't get a chance to check them out as I was homeward bound. Remember though like all of tourist-Cuba its shut at 12 to 1. 00 am or thereabouts.

To be honest the mongering worlds getting smaller and smaller. Even Cubans are thinking twice now. Without the girls there's not much point going really, its 9 hours from europe for sweaty bars, crap food and cheapish drinks, without the copious girls not sure what the point is.

Where next? 10 years ago I was in Cartagena, that was fun, although I believe its super expensive and much reduced now. Do I join the ballers in Dominican Republic, the thread on Sosua is all about how its gone downhill.

Lima? Could be good, but by jiminy its a long flight. Or two from europe.

Rio. Scary when I last went again about a decade ago, and since help closed I just don't think itll be the same.

Flat-tit asians don't do it for me, so looks like its "back to africa" maybe. Kenya and Ethiopia have been good to me in the past, maybe again next year.

DarrenG signing off. As they say "keep yo' pimp hand strong. ".Hey Darren,

Nice report, thanks for posting and giving us your take on what's going on lately.

BTW, the place where you stayed at, was it an independent apartment? If it was, mind PMing me the info? I'm planning my next trip and looking for options around Vedado.

TIA.

Mondo.

DiavelLoco
11-21-18, 16:56
Hi there,

I am new here but not in this forum. Lost my account from several years back. Just moved to Havana and exploring the place while looking for some adventure. Looking forward to some information sharing with all of you. I'm open to meet up to compare notes as well. I have a car here but no safe house yet.

Pokeris
11-21-18, 20:52
Yesterday around 9-10 pm evening I was walking at malecon from hotel deauville to the fort as uncle volodya suggested me this side of malecon have more girls and less police also it has wifi at some points near hotel deauville so its good spot for finding girls. I collected 2 numbers last night. I make 5 offers for girls. Most of girls asking here 40-50 cuc for short time (to much) but all goes down to 30 cuc easy for short time I offered 20 cuc for 5 girls and just one accepted this ammount.

I wake up in a morning and make two calls for 2 girls from my landline apartament number. One girl agree to meet 12.30 pm for 20 cuc short time other should come on 7 evening white beauty for 30 cuc short time. It was hard to communicate with them throught landline phone without spanish (google translator help) it good I give them last night my address so they know where to come.

I was waiting first girl she said I am almost here 3 times but late 1 hour. I told here if you not here after 30 minutes don't bother to come anymore. She managed somehow to squize into that 30 minutes. She call me on landline phone and said she its outside near hotel havana libre. I meet her outside and we walk to my apartament. She looks around at my apartament (probably see it nice place) take her phone out and text me on google translator: its not posible for 20 cuc like we agree yesterday I need more. I even not negotiate I open the apartament doors and said no problem love go!! And point with my hand to exit. She was shocked (probably she was thinking silly gringo will pay more) she want said something but saw my angry face and walk away. This be. Itch late waste my time come my apartament and though she can change agreement no way!!

Will wait evening girl hope it will be better than this one. If I not get luck again probably I will call my first cuban girl with great attitude for small money or free. She already sending me many massages on whatsapp and facebook and calling landline number why I don't want see her anymore.

Pokeris
11-21-18, 21:50
At vedado near heladeria copellia have some small park with concrete blue colour benches its a wifi spot and at daytime have some cute girls who coming to connect to wifi. I already see now good looking girl but she is too busy with someone on video call already 40 minutes. Also here outside this small park next to avenida 23 is selling cheap hot dogs for 0. 4 cuc (seems cubans like them always need to stand at the que at least one minute to buy them) and ice cream shop with nice ice creams for 0. 4 cuc. I will add photo of the park and blue spot on google maps.

DarrenGap
11-22-18, 00:19
At vedado near heladeria copellia have some small park with concrete blue colour benches its a wifi spot and at daytime have some cute girls who coming to connect to wifi. I already see now good looking girl but she is too busy with someone on video call already 40 minutes. Also here outside this small park next to avenida 23 is selling cheap hot dogs for 0. 4 cuc (seems cubans like them always need to stand at the que at least one minute to buy them) and ice cream shop with nice ice creams for 0. 4 cuc. I will add photo of the park and blue spot on google maps.Yes I stood there last week soaking up the wifi.

In fact I only used 1 $5 card in an entire week, as there isn't that much wifi in havana.

Its close to the havana libra cafe and opposite some no name green pizza place where other young folk congregate to catch up.

As you noticed a lot of girls aren't on the game (mores the pity). They're simply calling loved ones abroad with viber or whatever.

ALSO hot news. The latest menace in Havana is silent electric scooters. Once or twice I nearly got cleaned up by someone on one of those entirely silent no-petrol things.

Not sure I'll return to Havana, its fun, but its not as much fun as it was.

PainAlplz
11-22-18, 01:39
Breezed in last week.

Its all a bit depressing.

All week the police were up and down la rampa. Big white truck and patrolling officers. Hardly any girls walking around. Even in the little side street with the coffee bar by sophies, the police were hassling the girls. What a bore!

I took a pretty but hardened street girl from there, early twenties, european looking and very pretty, she wanted $60 settled for $40.

Next day I went to Tikkoa and La Gruta on La Rampa, both pretty poor, La Gruta especially is a big pit that is difficult to navigate or find a corner. Tikkoa is small and dominated by a small group of chica's who all know each other.

Saw a fabulous big titted 21 year old called Rachel, stuffed it up not taking her home.

On the other hand found a nice (medium titted) 19 yo with her "uncle" next to Tikkoa as I went home. A bit of an issue trailing round till we lost the police and could get a taxi in peace. She was peachy she wanted $30, but I gave her $40 after a good effort and for having excellent tits..Thanks for detailed report. I would not consider Lima. It's a fun City in a fun country but the Mongering was difficult, time consuming and expensive. So far Peru was the most difficult location I've mongered. It's customary to pay first for pros. I tried very hard to negotiate payment-after with online, street and club girls and all flatly refused and we're not afraid to walk. I only hooked up with girls who advertised and agreed to BBBJ and all but one refused after taking payment. When I protested be it in my hotel, the massage parlor etc they were all happy to wait me out or leave. There were some hotties and they will sweet talk you for days over text or in the clubs but once you ask to pay after or half first rest later they quickly change their tune. If I was you I'd consider Kenya because of it's proximity to Europe and the amazing prices.

Pokeris
11-22-18, 02:59
5 pm call other girl from landline apartament phone she said she will be at my apartament 7 pm anyway she late 45 minutes. We have small chat on google translator she told me she is originally from holguin but stays at san migel now. The girl name was daniela 22 years old have great body, cute face but small tis its was my first white cuban girl she was ok at bed and make me cum fast. I pay her 30 cuc like we agreed yesterday have some more chat on google translator allowed make few selfies together but don't want make photo alone give me her facebook and ask if we can meet tomorrow. I said I will call you, but I will not because I very rare fuck same girl second time. Will walk at malecon soon try collect some numbers for next time. If some senior member who contribute on this forum want danielas number can text me pm and I will share.

GrownMan1
11-22-18, 03:43
I not cheap mate I just paying going rates. Mr enternational is not cheap either he just know what he is doing! Anyway after 2 days spend together with that girl in the end I give her around 30 cuc and she was happy. Today I have 3 calls on my landline phone till I was at apartament from that girl I didint answer because i still want do some mongering. God knows how many times she was calling me when I was out half day. That girl have great time with me and in the end get almost 1 moth cuban salary so what's wrong with it mate?
We are in Cuba!l so lets play by our rules!First of all I enjoyed reading your post. I'm not knocking your style. If your girl was happy with $30 for two days then you did your thing. An even swap is not a swindle. I just want to quiver with you a little. Who said the 20 cuc what's the going rate? Because by the sounds of your reports it's not. Even the person that agreed thought about it and try to change the price.

I've been there many times and 20 cuc is not the norm for me and my friends. 30 to 40 yes but not 20. It sounds like the other girl wants to be your girlfriend. You guys didn't set a price and now she doesn't know how to exit. Hence her frequent calls and your excuses to be left alone.

Cuba and get frustrating very easy. It's like you did a hands on survey in front of us and I was thinking OK one out of five excepted your offer of 20 cuc. But the one reneged. It doesn't seem much of the norm.

I been knowing Mr E for a while and he mostly get girl for less than the average and get the the same service. But he uses his understanding of the language and Atl charisma.

Pokeris
11-22-18, 04:54
First of all I enjoyed reading your post. I'm not knocking your style. If your girl was happy with $30 for two days then you did your thing. An even swap is not a swindle. I just want to quiver with you a little. Who said the 20 cuc what's the going rate? Because by the sounds of your reports it's not. Even the person that agreed thought about it and try to change the price.

I've been there many times and 20 cuc is not the norm for me and my friends. 30 to 40 yes but not 20. It sounds like the other girl wants to be your girlfriend. You guys didn't set a price and now she doesn't know how to exit. Hence her frequent calls and your excuses to be left alone.

Cuba and get frustrating very easy. It's like you did a hands on survey in front of us and I was thinking OK one out of five excepted your offer of 20 cuc. But the one reneged. It doesn't seem much of the norm.

I been knowing Mr E for a while and he mostly get girl for less than the average and get the the same service. But he uses his understanding of the language and Atl charisma.I agree with you I see already 20 cuc is not going rate here anymore, but 30 cuc for short time is quiet easy to negotiate from 40-60 cuc which most street girls asking.

Pokeris
11-22-18, 05:23
Done some walk from sofia cafeteria to old havana fort, today at malecon was really quiet maybe its because windy day and big waves so not so many people sitting at malecon on that side where is hotel deauville. Don't see any girl I like and don't collect any numbers. The side where is la gruta is plenty of people also have police almost everywhere. Next to hotel deauville on my way back I jump inside small alleys and thought will comeback vedado this way. I saw some girls sitting next to their houses at this alleys I stop to some of them and make some chat on google translator I offered them to visit my apartament tomorrow both girls which I chat agree, but when I offered 20 cuc for short time both refuse. I see 20 is not going rate here anymore but 30 is still fine. I comeback next to cafeteria sofia I saw police truck with 4-5 girls inside already. I see one cute girl with friend I ask her number she give me it very quick but was scared to talk with me said something in spanish and police police. Will check la gruta later maybe, probably tomorrow I call my first girl and will spend time with her instead doing some mongering!

Mr Enternational
11-22-18, 05:28
Thanks for detailed report. I would not consider Lima. It's a fun City in a fun country but the Mongering was difficult, time consuming and expensive.It is only the way you experienced it if you are hanging around tourist traps. If you speak Spanish and have an internet, then Lima is neither difficult, time consuming, nor expensive to monger in. If you are using dumb gringo methods such as Tequila Rocks and Pizza Street, then they are going to be asking you for $100 and trying to rip you off with the service as well.

Pokeris
11-22-18, 17:04
Visited la gruta last night was many people, they have dance competition its was nice to look, cuban knows how to move their bodies. At first I saw one black girl who is 3 nights in the row coming near me and start to dance and willing I will make contact with her. She was not so bad looking I was thinking maybe I will take her but later saw other light black girl with friend she has endearing smile she was looking at me and smile all the time. I come to her and talk little bit till my spanish is finish. I ask how much she want for todo la noche and she said 50 I said 40 and she quickly agree. I thought is good deal for all night. I buy her a beer and we sit to watch dance competition she was curious about me and was asking many things on google translator. When I told her I am from Lithuania she thought I am from moon somewhere.

She looks like new at la gruta and ask me where is the toilet here. (or maybe just want to pretend she is new) We have couple of beers and left. When we walk outside I take my phone out and want text her on google translator if it s ok we walk together because police is everywhere and at same time I see police stop her next to cafeteria sofia. She was talking with them something in spanish joking something and laughing together she show them her ID and other white peace of paper. The police give ID back for her but keep some white peace of paper. She look at me and said something in spanish and said amigo laugh and smile. I come closer to police and said ella es si amiga they said no problem. They talk something more little bit policeman point at white paper and they let us go. We was walking I ask on google translator everything is good you don't have any problems with police? She said small problem and something about document (white paper).

We comeback apartament shower together and fuck for 1 hour she was good at bed, BBBJ, little bit ass licking, diffrent positions but I could cum at first so I take condom of and she start suck me hard I cum into her mouth. We spend 1 hour more together and she told me 5 pm she need walk back and take her document from police, but she will comeback if I want. I want sleep and text her I can't wait till 5 pm it was around 3 pm already. I said I give her 30 because she not stay all night, she text me back, Its ok money its not most important. I was suprised at her answer. I don't have 30 cuc I need change it from 20 notes so I said lets walk outside I change. We go out I bought couple of apples at shop opposite la rampa cafeteria give her apple and 35 cuc she seems happy with 5 extra. I walk back to apartament. I wake up early call my first girl and offer to spend day together she tell me after one hour she will be here. She arrived I told her I miss her but she said I don't think so you not call me two days but anyway she look very happy we meet. She is sweet girl I am very rare meet same girl second time, but for this one I make exception she is worth it.

DiavelLoco
11-22-18, 18:15
Went to Fantaxy around 2 weeks ago before I started reading this forum. Place is nice for Cuban standard and the girls were hot too, at least to my liking. Must admit that I was very naive to get sucked in into the trap and settled for this hot fake blondie by the name Carina. Her service was good, gave a BBBJ and some twerking before the action. Damage was 150 cuc. She has my no and kept on messaging me for a repeat. Been ignoring her and now she said she will settle for 130 the next one. Don't think I will consider the offer. Anyone who doesn't mind paying that amount of money can PM me for her number.

Mr Gogo
11-23-18, 02:16
Great reporting sir, thanks. Seems the police have locked onto you around la Rampa. You didn't help your anonymity by hanging around the police truck full of women to get numbers, you are a bold dude LOL. The white paper of the girl the police kept was probably to ensure she returns to pay their bribe.

From my experience the bicitaxis, taxis and local touts pay 10-20 cuc for a quickie in the girls room. Latin tourists who speak fluent Spanish can usually tap into the 15-30 cuc range. And gringo tourists who speak no Spanish will usually pay 40-120 cuc if they are first time visitors and haven't tapped into the local network. I speak Spanish and visit Cuba every 5 months so I have regulars that come from as far as Santigo to visit family and stay with me for a week and I supply food, drinks and pocket change and a bonus at the end of 150 -200 cuc. The good thing about this arrangement is they visit family during the day and are with me from 5 pm until the next day. So I get the day to play or hang with the boys. My Santiago girl is drop dead gorgeous (ask Mr E) and she uses the bonus money at the end to buy clothes in Havana to sell at her family store in Santiago. It's a great deal for her, she doesn't have to stay in her families cramped house and hear them begging for money, she stays in my nice apartment.Cubans are funny, this miss family when they are gone but after 2 days end up fighting and not getting along if someone is not contributing. I get raw good sex. And she makes enough to justify her trip for the business in Santiago. Wish I had this arrangement everywhere in the world I go with the quality sex she provides.

I know girls that sit out on a stoop all day that will fuck for an old pair of tennis shoes or 25 cuc if I'm in the mood, but the local boys pay 10-20 cuc. Even though we want to fuck at local prices it's very hard to do because we aren't Cuban and it's easy quick money without the police problems.

Girls on the malecon are clickish and worry about what their friend will tell others if they fuck a tourist to cheap, plus pimps and police are lurking. Single girls on the malecon and la rampa usually have a hands on local watching.

As per your reports, the sex has been great that you have experienced with no problems. IMO this is the value of Cuba, girls who bring passion and take sex seriously.

I also roll with Mr E around the world and he is serious about HIS price but I'm not going to let paying 10-15 cuc stop me from having these sex machines I so desire. The best sex of my life has been in Cuba and I have been around the world, I'm in the Philippines now (check my reports there). Cuba is the only place that had me challenge my sexual performance to step up to what I was getting. I mean I have seen girls transform into sexual freaks that lose themselves in the moment, multiple orgasms, eyes changing colors etc. It could be a fire in the building and I'm not going to lose the moment and stop fucking these sexual goddesses. And one more thing Sir, the sex only gets better when you get outside of Havana.

You are doing better than most that report here. But on your next trip step outside of Havana and take a road trip and things get better. Peace.

Pokeris
11-23-18, 03:11
Great reporting sir, thanks. Seems the police have locked onto you around la Rampa. You didn't help your anonymity by hanging around the police truck full of women to get numbers, you are a bold dude LOL. The white paper of the girl the police kept was probably to ensure she returns to pay their bribe.

From my experience the bicitaxis, taxis and local touts pay 10-20 cuc for a quickie in the girls room. Latin tourists who speak fluent Spanish can usually tap into the 15-30 cuc range. And gringo tourists who speak no Spanish will usually pay 40-120 cuc if they are first time visitors and haven't tapped into the local network. I speak Spanish and visit Cuba every 5 months so I have regulars that come from as far as Santigo to visit family and stay with me for a week and I supply food, drinks and pocket change and a bonus at the end of 150 -200 cuc. The good thing about this arrangement is they visit family during the day and are with me from 5 pm until the next day. So I get the day to play or hang with the boys. My Santiago girl is drop dead gorgeous (ask Mr E) and she uses the bonus money at the end to buy clothes in Havana to sell at her family store in Santiago. It's a great deal for her, she doesn't have to stay in her families cramped house and hear them begging for money, she stays in my nice apartment.Cubans are funny, this miss family when they are gone but after 2 days end up fighting and not getting along if someone is not contributing. I get raw good sex. And she makes enough to justify her trip for the business in Santiago. Wish I had this arrangement everywhere in the world I go with the quality sex she provides.

I know girls that sit out on a stoop all day that will fuck for an old pair of tennis shoes or 25 cuc if I'm in the mood, but the local boys pay 10-20 cuc. Even though we want to fuck at local prices it's very hard to do because we aren't Cuban and it's easy quick money without the police problems.

Girls on the malecon are clickish and worry about what their friend will tell others if they fuck a tourist to cheap, plus pimps and police are lurking. Single girls on the malecon and la rampa usually have a hands on local watching.

As per your reports, the sex has been great that you have experienced with no problems. IMO this is the value of Cuba, girls who bring passion and take sex seriously.

I also roll with Mr E around the world and he is serious about HIS price but I'm not going to let paying 10-15 cuc stop me from having these sex machines I so desire. The best sex of my life has been in Cuba and I have been around the world, I'm in the Philippines now (check my reports there). Cuba is the only place that had me challenge my sexual performance to step up to what I was getting. I mean I have seen girls transform into sexual freaks that lose themselves in the moment, multiple orgasms, eyes changing colors etc. It could be a fire in the building and I'm not going to lose the moment and stop fucking these sexual goddesses. And one more thing Sir, the sex only gets better when you get outside of Havana.

You are doing better than most that report here. But on your next trip step outside of Havana and take a road trip and things get better. Peace.Thanks mate for a honest advice you make everything more clear about prices. I appreciate!! I don't speak spanish I am first timer but to get girls for 30 cuc its not hard here at all if you can negotiate little bit. My biggest mistake I don't rent or buy cuban sim card it was much easy to comunnicate with girls because this way I can just collect numbers and text them with copy paste from google translator. I have landline phone at apartament but its hard to make agreement without spanish. Next time I defenitely go out of havana to explore diffrent parts!!

GrownMan1
11-23-18, 15:53
Thanks mate for a honest advice you make everything more clear about prices. I appreciate!! I don't speak spanish I am first timer but to get girls for 30 cuc its not hard here at all if you can negotiate little bit. My biggest mistake I don't rent or buy cuban sim card it was much easy to comunnicate with girls because this way I can just collect numbers and text them with copy paste from google translator. I have landline phone at apartament but its hard to make agreement without spanish. Next time I defenitely go out of havana to explore diffrent parts!!The two local guys that I hung out with and Cuba were notorious for getting girls to come for entertainment and at the end of the session they chumped them off $10 or $15 cuc. They did this well by pretending they were Americans. These guys were in their early 20's and they had a routine with it. The women would take what's given to them because it was more than they had before. And at least they got their back's broke by Americans! So they thought. In reality my to Cuban friends were Cuban taxis bicyclists.

We get in front of Sophia's and we found ourselves having to prove to the girls we were not Cuban. The chicas wanted to avoid there fellow Cubans at all cost. I had to ask my Cuban friend why and he said the girls know that Cubans don't have any money and are cheap. Some would rather session and American for free than to be chumped off by another Cuban. This is the reason why they play the we are Americans game.

One time I was offered a free BBBJ in the backseat of the car. I decline the offer, however, my known Cuban friends jumped in the backseat to except my gift instead. The Chica refuse and stated only for the American.

GrownMan1
11-23-18, 16:15
Went to Fantaxy around 2 weeks ago before I started reading this forum. Place is nice for Cuban standard and the girls were hot too, at least to my liking. Must admit that I was very naive to get sucked in into the trap and settled for this hot fake blondie by the name Carina. Her service was good, gave a BBBJ and some twerking before the action. Damage was 150 cuc. She has my no and kept on messaging me for a repeat. Been ignoring her and now she said she will settle for 130 the next one. Don't think I will consider the offer. Anyone who doesn't mind paying that amount of money can PM me for her number.Dude thank you for your posts. This is the perfect example of prices they charge and areas designated for tourist. I feel ya DiavelLoco. When it's time for a session you have to take what's available to you at the price established or take a loss. Most of us would have did the same similar circumstances, however the chances of repeating is little to none.

That's why chicas in certain areas know what to expect or hope from tourists.

Pokeris
11-23-18, 18:39
Spend all day with my first girl, she arrived we fucked after go see old havana comeback apartament fucked again she is so great at bed I can cum quiet easy. Have couple hours of sleep wake up and have dinner together I told her evening I will go meet my friends and spend time with them and I can see her tomorrow again I bought her 5 cuc internet card give 25 cuc and told this is for you to meet your friends and have some drink together so you not boring alone at evening (its was just silly excuse why I give her money). Before she left she done good BBBJCIM.

First I checked malecon around 8 pm I done long walk from la gruta to old havana fort and comeback it was so quiet I didn't see any girls I like don't collect any numbers at all. Comeback my apartament stay for a while and around 11 pm go to pico blanco it was 3 cuc entry it has 30-40 people inside but very poor choice with a girls I drink one beer and left. I checked also club 23 and coctel havana on avenida 23 both places is opositte side sofia cafeteria. It was very poor selection also and just little bit people.

Later around 12 am on half street where is la gruta electricity disapear all people go out on streets from clubs and was waiting its will comeback again. At this time was strange because I didint see any police around when was dark without electricity. I was walking next to cafeteria sofia and saw 2 very beautiful white girls they was looking very young they both was looking at me and smiling I sit next to them and ask they names and how old they are one told 16 other 17 years. I didint said nothing anymore because they are to young I take my phone and connectet to internet look something after couple of minutes hustler come he speak good english he said do you like the girls I said I do, but they are to young I need at least 18. He said don't worry no problem if you stay private apartament take both of them. He said something for them and they stand up and spin around show their bodies. I said they are to young and left. When I was walking back after 5 minutes electricity is back already and I saw this girls sitting alone without hustler and they wave me to come again I just smile and pass them and decided to check la gruta. I went inside pay 3 cuc walk around but it was poor choice also I saw one really good looking girl I like but she was talking with other costumer and other 2 so so looking girls. I went out walk on streets little bit again but didint see nothing at was many police everywhere so I comeback la gruta again.

The girl I like was without costumer but with friend this time I come to here have a small conversation and ask how much she want for all night? She said 100. I said its to much I can give you 40 she didint agree and text me 50 for 1 hour. I take my phone and text her on google translator I can give you 30 for 1 hour and 50 for all night. She ask where is my apartament I show her address on my phone and she make photo of it with her phone. I explain how easy to find it and she said she knows also I ask we go long time or short time she text me 1 hour for 30 because 50 its small for her for all night. She said we go out separate and you wait near your apartament outside. I said ok lets drink one beer first she agree. I take her phone number. The girl was looking really great black tall with nice body and cute face. I thought I cum 3 times today before already its will be difficult to cum for me so I take tablet out of my pocket and drink It was lapela which I still have from my previous dominic respublic trip it makes you hard for 36 hours.

We went out separate she was following me maybe 50 metres away police was almost on every corner. I was walking and already was thinking in my mind how I will fuck hard that black beauty the lapela tablet was kicking in and I was getting horny already just from my imagination. I look back I saw the girl is still following me it was around 50 metres away from apartament I cross the street and I went next to apartament yard doors and waiting her but she not coming I wait for 2-3 minutes and thought where she disapear I look other side of the street and just this time I saw police is standing close to havana libre hotel near alcohol shop and looking all the ways and they can see clearly entry to my apartament. I decided walk back all the way but I can't see the girl she just disapered somewhere I was upset I walk my apartament I call her on phone but she didint answer. I decided walk back to la gruta I thought maybe she comeback here I walk in but she wasnt here also all other so so looking girls was gone already it was 3 pm almost and not to much people at all. I decided I need fuck someone anyway and walk out many places was closing and people go out on street police was everywhere I desperate try to speak with some girls but they ignore me of police. I saw one girl walking out of tikoa club she was so so looking at dark I said hola she said hola and police police and quickly ask where is my apartament I point havana libre hotel side she is smart and start following me 20-30 metres away. We walk all the way back I saw same police is standing I quickly pass the street stand on the corner of my building next to the entry the police can't see me from this point but girl which is coming can see I wave her and she quickly enter the building I close yard doors. She was scared becasue she saw police on the corner also.

We come my apartament and she said me she can't go out and need sleep all night because police saw her. I knew good cards are at my hands now and I can make good price for all night because she scared to leave now. I text her how much for all night she text me 60 cuc I said for her look now is 3 pm already I give you 30 cuc she don't agree I try 35 cuc she don't agree either so we set on 40 and she promise stay till 12 pm. The girl was 24 years old she was not my type (she was looking better in the dark on street) if I saw her somewhere in diffrent situation I defenitely not take her. We take shower together and jump at bed I was really hard from tablet fuck her for 20-30 minutes get tired but could cum. I take of the condom she start BBBJ I lift my ass up and she star lick it and same time wank for me its makes me excited and after 5 minutes she makes me cum. We wake up around 10.30 am I was horny already but was lazy to fuck her so just point to my dick and she start to suck it I lift my ass again and she was polishing it for good 20 minutes and wanking same time but I could come anymore I decided better I keep my leche for some other better looking girl. I pay her 40 cuc ask some photo but she refused just allowed one pic from the back and she left. Today is my last day at Cuba hope I will get better success today.

Pokeris
11-24-18, 00:39
Try arriange some daytime meetings with a girls call one girl from landline apartament phone but she didint answer. Decided to call black girl from la gruta who see police last night near my apartament and disapear. I call here and say I take your number yesterday at la gruta she remembers me and said police was near your apartament last night so I could come. I ask if she can come today. She said sure after 2 hour I will be here. She arrived on time and looking good tall girl maybe around 6 feet, have great body. I offered her a beer and we chat little bit on google translator she is 24 years old name anisley. Later we jump on bed she takes all clothes have couple tattos and piercing in her pussy its looks sexy. BBBJ, some diffrent positions she was great at bed so it not takes me long to cum. We make photos together some photos her alone give her 30 cuc like we agree yesterday at la gruta and she left. If some senior member want her contacts I will share.

Ee2002
11-24-18, 16:02
We went out separate she was following me maybe 50 metres away police was almost on every corner. I was walking and already was thinking in my mind how I will fuck hard that black beauty the lapela tablet was kicking in and I was getting horny already just from my imagination. I look back I saw the girl is still following me it was around 50 metres away from apartament I cross the street and I went next to apartament yard doors and waiting her but she not coming I wait for 2-3 minutes and thought where she disapear I look other side of the street and just this time I saw police is standing close to havana libre hotel near alcohol shop and looking all the ways and they can see clearly entry to my apartament. I decided walk back all the way but I can't see the girl she just disapered somewhere I was upset I walk my apartament I call her on phone but she didint answer. I decided walk back to la gruta I thought maybe she comeback here I walk in but she wasnt here also all other so so looking girls was gone already it was 3 pm almost and not to much people at all. I decided I need fuck someone anyway and walk out many places was closing and people go out on street police was everywhere I desperate try to speak with some girls but they ignore me of police. I saw one girl walking out of tikoa club she was so so looking at dark I said hola she said hola and police police and quickly ask where is my apartament I point havana libre hotel side she is smart and start following me 20-30 metres away. We walk all the way back I saw same police is standing I quickly pass the street stand on the corner of my building next to the entry the police can't see me from this point but girl which is coming can see I wave her and she quickly enter the building I close yard doors. She was scared becasue she saw police on the corner also.

We come my apartament and she said me she can't go out and need sleep all night because police saw her. I knew good cards are at my hands now and I can make good price for all night because she scared to leave now. I text her how much for all night she text me 60 cuc I said for her look now is 3 pm already I give you 30 cuc she don't agree I try 35 cuc she don't agree either so we set on 40 and she promise stay till 12 pm. The girl was 24 years old she was not my type (she was looking better in the dark on street) if I saw her somewhere in diffrent situation I defenitely not take her. We take shower together and jump at bed I was really hard from tablet fuck her for 20-30 minutes get tired but could cum. I take of the condom she start BBBJ I lift my ass up and she star lick it and same time wank for me its makes me excited and after 5 minutes she makes me cum. We wake up around 10.30 am I was horny already but was lazy to fuck her so just point to my dick and she start to suck it I lift my ass again and she was polishing it for good 20 minutes and wanking same time but I could come anymore I decided better I keep my leche for some other better looking girl. I pay her 40 cuc ask some photo but she refused just allowed one pic from the back and she left. Today is my last day at Cuba hope I will get better success today.Great reporting Pokeris in both this and Rio thread. Based on the earlier photo you posted, looks like you stayed at the same apt I stayed at last time I went to Havana across from the Libre. That area was pretty bad last time I was in Havana. Had an almost similar situation, which ended up working out in the end. But took a lot of going back and forth and phone tag to make it work.

Havana is cool, but if you are going there thinking it's easy pickings like the other places, you will be very disappointed. Having a phone, whether cell or house phone can be crucial, also patience. The FL street scene can be tough due to the current police situation.

On another note, that last paragraph had me laughing my ass off (no pun). Your story telling combined with the way you write in english are awesome. Keep up the good work.

Pokeris
11-24-18, 17:37
Great reporting Pokeris in both this and Rio thread. Based on the earlier photo you posted, looks like you stayed at the same apt I stayed at last time I went to Havana across from the Libre. That area was pretty bad last time I was in Havana. Had an almost similar situation, which ended up working out in the end. But took a lot of going back and forth and phone tag to make it work.

Havana is cool, but if you are going there thinking it's easy pickings like the other places, you will be very disappointed. Having a phone, whether cell or house phone can be crucial, also patience. The FL street scene can be tough due to the current police situation.

On another note, that last paragraph had me laughing my ass off (no pun). Your story telling combined with the way you write in english are awesome. Keep up the good work.Thanks mate!

The apartament I stayed was opossite havana libre hotel apartament number 410 they have massage salon at same building and you can see blue masaage sign on this building from the street. Someone on ISG recommend me to check it out this massage place because he manage to take girl out for fun at his apartament from here so yesterday I walk in and ask how much is massage the man was speaking english and have 1 girl inside. It was 25 cuc for 1 hour or half for 30 minutes so I said I comeback next day. For me sounds no point pay 25 cuc for massage for 1 hour + some money for fun after (if its available) You can get it cheaper from girls. I really like apartmament I stayed its private have everything you need, wifi points just 1 minute away, many place for eating, alcohol shops and easy to explain for girls where it is because everybody knows havana libre hotel. In all week just 1 night police was standing next to alcohol shop so it was not so bad.

Pokeris
11-24-18, 17:42
I decided spend my last night with first girl I fucked at havana and visit some places together.

Don cangrejo entry fee was 5 cuc last night we arrived with around 12 am it was big que outside to get into (club.).

We wait maybe 30 minutes in line still we get in. Some hustlers was offering skip the line for 5 cuc. This place was packed can't find empty table for sitting beer price was 3 cuc. Have some beautiful looking girls inside they give eyes contacts for me and smiles so I understand most of them was hoes. I don't call this place club myself because its more like open area with tables for sit have bar and dj playing music nothing special really. Have couple beers and left.

Q-bola club its somewhere 1-2 kilomitres away from fantaxy club (calle 42 entre 1ra y 1ra A, Miramar,)
Get we arrived 1 pm its was no entry fee, but they have dress code no flip flops, I was wearing flip flops they point it for me but make exception and let me in. The places look nice and modern have many people inside and was some working girls I saw them with foreigner costumers also some sitting alone or with friends and giving eyes contact. Beer is 4 cuc. It was strange for me they charge 1 cuc for using toilet I thought at first they want rip me off but later I see other people also paying it. They do same at girls toilets. Have few beers and left. Try to catch taxi back to vedado they want 15 cuc but negotiate for 8 cuc.

Come back vedado have some pizzas opposite la gruta cafeteria its cheap and nice for 2 pizzas and 2 beers I pay 9 cuc.

My girl get drunk from 5 small beers so she want comeback apartament. We fucked 2 hours but I could cum. That girl is little black sex machine cum herself 3 times she really enjoy sex. Honestly I can add here in my top 5 best girls for sex list I ever fucked. Wake up in morning fucked again this time I manage to cum into her mouth after great blowjob. I check how much cuc I left it was just 60 cuc, so I give 30 for a girl she was happy with it She ask me can I give her a present my old samsung charger because its broken and here is expensive I ask how much it cost charger at Cuba she told me this one is around 15-20 cuc. I said no problem keep it I will buy on ebay for 2-3 cuc them I comeback london I have powerbank now anyway. We wait apartament cleaner to give a key back. I said bye for a girl catch old pobeda taxi to airport for 20 cuc and waiting my flight now.

I enjoyed havana somehow but next time I can make it better if I have local sim card. This way I can collect girls numbers and just text them with google translator its was much easy when communicate throught landline phone without spanish. Add some pic from don cangrejo and q-bola club.

Ee2002
11-24-18, 18:21
Thanks mate!

The apartament I stayed was opossite havana libre hotel apartament number 410 they have massage salon at same building and you can see blue masaage sign on this building from the street. Someone on ISG recommend me to check it out this massage place because he manage to take girl out for fun at his apartament from here so yesterday I walk in and ask how muto save that for ach is massage the man was speaking english and have 1 girl inside. It was 25 cuc for 1 hour or half for 30 minutes so I said I comeback next day. For me sounds no point pay 25 cuc for massage for 1 hour + some money for fun after (if its available) You can get it cheaper from girls. I really like apartmament I stayed its private have everything you need, wifi points just 1 minute away, many place for eating, alcohol shops and easy to explain for girls where it is because everybody knows havana libre hotel. In all week just 1 night police was standing next to alcohol shop so it was not so bad.If it's the same one, you have to enter through the side door of the building (I can't find the address information now). The apt was very spacious. I got it through Airbnb (first time using it for Hav). Although a great spot, that area is too hot right now, which can make it difficult to bring guest. I checked out the massage place on a previous trip after someone on the street asked us to check it out and I left feeling the same way as you, LOL. I was going to recommend the little small restaurant next door just over the wall, but then realized you are leaving Hav. Again, good reporting and glad you had a good time.

Ee2002
11-24-18, 18:57
If it's the same one, you have to enter through the side door of the building (I can't find the address information now). The apt was very spacious. I got it through Airbnb (first time using it for Hav). Although a great spot, that area is too hot right now, which can make it difficult to bring guest. I checked out the massage place on a previous trip after someone on the street asked us to check it out and I left feeling the same way as you, LOL. I was going to recommend the little small restaurant next door just over the wall, but then realized you are leaving Hav. Again, good reporting and glad you had a good time.Just to make clear for anyone not familiar with the area or considering a place / area to stay, we are talking about the Vedado area on Calle L next to Calle 23 (aka La Rampa), Habana Libre hotel was directly across the street from the apt. This street leads to the University. The corner over there is very active since there is a wifi hot spot on almost all for corners, the Copelia ice cream factory and the Yara theather. If you look hard enough you can definitely pick up some action around there. Easy 3 block walk down the hill to the main epicenter of La Rampa (Calle O), although on a hot day walking back up the ramp can be tough. Old Havana is about a 30-60 min walk if you can hack it, I do it all the time while checking out the action along the Malecon. The Miramar area clubs are in the opposite direction but would require a cab, never even considered walking in that direction, LOL.

The only problem as mentioned before is that the police are posted at that corner and have even spread out down the two blocks almost going towards the university. Otherwise, I would definitely recommend staying in that area.

BeersTerry
11-26-18, 17:33
There are a few places for rent across and south of Habana Libre. As mentioned, there are lots of cops monitoring that strip so you need to be very aware of what is going on. Cops often stand in the shadows on the corner across the street from those rentals. The downstairs bar right across the street from Habana Libre is a hustle joint, a place to avoid or be very aware of what prices are and what you have ordered / drank.

Cafeteria Sofia is another place that is heavily watched and has more than its share of hustlers and scammers. Walk by and you can be offered cocaine. I always assume it is a police trap as it will cost you over $10 k to get out. I did talk to a guy before who's travel companion / wing man paid that to get off of a pot charge.

As someone once said to me, who the hell can afford cocaine in Cuba? It is also hard to get in. That said, the safer assumption is that the coke is fake or it is a set up.


btw....good posts Pokeris

Pokeris
12-08-18, 09:46
I chat with girl from havana she told me from yesterday they allowed to have 3 G internet now!! 1 Gb-10 cuc is sounds still very expensive but its good news anyway!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-46456944

DocInHeat
12-08-18, 15:26
I just got back from Havana. Unfortunately it was a little cold this week and the walking traffic on La Rampa and Malecon was a fraction of what I saw my first night. What a bummer.

Doc.

Ty Down
12-08-18, 18:10
I chat with girl from havana she told me from yesterday they allowed to have 3 G internet now!! 1 Gb-10 cuc is sounds still very expensive but its good news anyway!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-46456944Yes indeed, my hot little chica from Ciego De Avila called me the first thing in the morning yesterday, she was excited that they had internet connection way down in Ciego, apparently all the major cities are going online in Cuba. Restricted content though from what I understand.

In other News, good news for AT&T users, they have rolled out a Cuba Connect plan, 0. 70 cents per minute when calling from the USA to Cuba. Huge improvement.

https://www.att.com/shop/en/wireless/international/long-distance.html?source=EC1N0000000wrt00E&wtExtndSource=1018_ocwc_nat_a_lrn1#see.

DocInHeat
12-12-18, 01:12
Since it was a little cool out and few chicas to be seen on Malecon or La Rampa, went to Club Fantaxy. As it turned out, 10 pm was WAY too early. Maybe 4 other customers and 8 staff! But the staff assured us that it picks up around 11 and sure enough, right around 11, people starting coming in steadily and by 11:30 it was medium full. By then, we had seen several potential partners for the night. Unfortunately, since I was wingman, I had to partner up with a chubby girl, Darelys, while my friend had a very pretty blonde chica, Diana. Why is it all over the world, its usually a pretty girl who has a much less pretty friend? Oh well, we had a reasonably good time at the club, drinking, dancing and negotiating. Prices started at 150 CUC and since we were in a hotel, we had to go to the girls' recommendations for accommodations. Overnight was 30 CUC per room and as mentioned elsewhere, it was a little weird going through someone's house with the owners there to go to our bedrooms.

Both of the girls wanted payment upfront, which we tried to deflect, but finally gave in. Fortunately, it wasn't a hit and run, the girls stayed all night. We each had a good time and slept peacefully, till we had to get up and go back to the hotel in time to change and go to work. A problem with these private rooms is that they are in real neighborhoods, far from any taxi routes. The girls called several times to get rides, before we finally got someone to pick us up after 20-30 minutes of waiting.

DocInHeat
12-12-18, 22:38
I forgot to mention: Our girls wanted to travel separately to the casa and told us the fare would be 40 CUC, 20 for each car. When we got to the casa, the drivers demanded 80 CUC, 40 for each. Even though we were good in negotiating ride prices in general, we didn't actually negotiate these prices ourselves and I don't think the girls did either. I think they just assumed we'd get the going rate, but the drivers saw a couple of Americans and screwed us. Negotiate before you get to the car!


Since it was a little cool out and few chicas to be seen on Malecon or La Rampa, went to Club Fantaxy. As it turned out, 10 pm was WAY too early. Maybe 4 other customers and 8 staff! But the staff assured us that it picks up around 11 and sure enough, right around 11, people starting coming in steadily and by 11:30 it was medium full. By then, we had seen several potential partners for the night. Unfortunately, since I was wingman, I had to partner up with a chubby girl, Darelys, while my friend had a very pretty blonde chica, Diana. Why is it all over the world, its usually a pretty girl who has a much less pretty friend? Oh well, we had a reasonably good time at the club, drinking, dancing and negotiating. Prices started at 150 CUC and since we were in a hotel, we had to go to the girls' recommendations for accommodations. Overnight was 30 CUC per room and as mentioned elsewhere, it was a little weird going through someone's house with the owners there to go to our bedrooms.

Both of the girls wanted payment upfront, which we tried to deflect, but finally gave in. Fortunately, it wasn't a hit and run, the girls stayed all night. We each had a good time and slept peacefully, till we had to get up and go back to the hotel in time to change and go to work. A problem with these private rooms is that they are in real neighborhoods, far from any taxi routes. The girls called several times to get rides, before we finally got someone to pick us up after 20-30 minutes of waiting.

DocInHeat
12-12-18, 22:43
Got caught up in a super-long dinner with some business people and so ended up going to Fantaxy late. Much too late. Got there at 12:30 am and the place was packed (Thursday night) there was a short line getting in and had to fight our way to the bar to get a drink. It was simply too crowded to even talk to anyone. Did see a few lookers and also, it was so jam-packed, I accidentally saw negotiations occurring via google translate between a chica and prospective client. Her starting price was 150 CUC. Not sure he was able to get it down further as she also was busy explaining to him that his hotel wouldn't allow her in, etc. It was just too much for me and my friend, so after a couple drinks, we left with a few memories of our first Havana experience.

Pokeris
12-13-18, 09:57
I forgot to mention: Our girls wanted to travel separately to the casa and told us the fare would be 40 CUC, 20 for each car. When we got to the casa, the drivers demanded 80 CUC, 40 for each. Even though we were good in negotiating ride prices in general, we didn't actually negotiate these prices ourselves and I don't think the girls did either. I think they just assumed we'd get the going rate, but the drivers saw a couple of Americans and screwed us. Negotiate before you get to the car!I suggest you read this forum more mate you can find places you can get girls all night for 40-50 cuc and its not hard at all. Taxi 40 cuc? I don't know where was you going.But they rip you off. Like example you can manage to get taxi from fantaxy to vedado for 10 cuc, most of the times they asking 15-20 cuc just negotiate little bit or walk 50 metres on main road and catch from here for 8-10 cuc easy to vedado.

BeersTerry
12-14-18, 20:48
Normally, the honest cabbies don't like the hustle nor hanging around clubs to rip off gringos. They just want to earn an honest living.

That said, it is mostly hustlers and rip off artists that hang out around clubs. All they need is to rip off one gringo to make their night. Rates are higher at night but if in doubt, ask that they use the meter. Prices drop real fast when you do that.

Peaty
12-15-18, 02:24
And one more thing Sir, the sex only gets better when you get outside of Havana.

You are doing better than most that report here. But on your next trip step outside of Havana and take a road trip and things get better. Peace.Thanks for the report! Where outside of Havana would you suggest going?

I am fit and speak Spanish so I'm looking to vibe with girls and get more of a GFE, not the hardcore pros from Havana clubs.

Where do I go to find those semi-/ non-pros that's still close to Havana and / or Varadero?

Guanabo?

Mr Gogo
12-15-18, 03:31
Thanks for the report! Where outside of Havana would you suggest going?

I am fit and speak Spanish so I'm looking to vibe with girls and get more of a GFE, not the hardcore pros from Havana clubs.

Where do I go to find those semi-/ non-pros that's still close to Havana and / or Varadero?

Guanabo?Sir,

90 percent of the guys here wish they can say that,"fit and speak Spanish " LOL. You have the gifts already, Latin America is made for you.

DocInHeat
12-18-18, 23:13
We were in Havana for work with limited free time, since we had more money than we had time, we went to Fantaxy. And yes, if you read my note, I know we were really ripped off for taxi. My teaching point to other visitors is not to trust what the chicas say about taxi, make sure you negotiate the price yourself.


I suggest you read this forum more mate you can find places you can get girls all night for 40-50 cuc and its not hard at all. Taxi 40 cuc? I don't know where was you going.But they rip you off. Like example you can manage to get taxi from fantaxy to vedado for 10 cuc, most of the times they asking 15-20 cuc just negotiate little bit or walk 50 metres on main road and catch from here for 8-10 cuc easy to vedado.

Dave1111
12-20-18, 00:49
We were in Havana for work with limited free time, since we had more money than we had time, we went to Fantaxy. And yes, if you read my note, I know we were really ripped off for taxi. My teaching point to other visitors is not to trust what the chicas say about taxi, make sure you negotiate the price yourself.Firstly it's 10 cuc fantaxy to vedado. I did it twenty times. They always asked for 20 and I said no. Start walking and they will chase you. Or walk to a main road and call one by sticking your arm up. It will probably be 8 cuc then. These hookers are losing control. They are asking mental money and most have flabby stomachs after having a kid or two. They asked me for 150 and I never paid more than 50 for all night. 95% leave the club empty handed. Taxis are ripping everyone off, bank cashiers are short changing you, etesca telephone kiosk women are ripping us off. I am sick of their theft. The police are stealing from the cabbies. This I saw! The tourist money has made them real crazy in the last year. The malecon is dead! I walked it twenty times at night. 18 months ago there were dozens and dozens, now there aren't any birds at all. Even the amount of youngsters having a good time has dropped. There are police everywhere and this year they have dogs. They also turn up in a white lorry with about 15 in at a time. Arresting the locals for absolutely anything. Man, what a police state this is.

Outside hotel National the hotel National taxi and security guy said the price of taxi to Varadero was 150 cuc. He said it was the ' Law' , well across the road three yellow govt taxis all quoted 100 cuc!! Everyone is ripping tourists off. They target Americans and Asians. They prey on you because some of these tourists are very very gullible. They have no respect for you whatsoever and are just stealing from you. It's as plain as that. The city is also very dirty and the broken roads and pavements are a serious health hazard especially at night. I won't be going back. It's the theft that got to me. The rest I can put up with, but all this fake socialist none sense is a joke. I know one thing though, Donald getting Bolsonaro to kick 8000 Cuban doctors and their paid salaries out of Brazil is going to hurt like hell. I met a lot of very unhappy Cubans during my long stay. Some people are getting very rich and a lot of poor people can see this and don't like it. Good luck Cuba, you are going to need it!!

TadaiMaybe
12-20-18, 06:53
Firstly it's 10 cuc fantaxy to vedado. I did it twenty times. They always asked for 20 and I said no. Start walking and they will chase you. Or walk to a main road and call one by sticking your arm up. It will probably be 8 cuc then. These hookers are losing control. They are asking mental money and most have flabby stomachs after having a kid or two. They asked me for 150 and I never paid more than 50 for all night. 95% leave the club empty handed. Taxis are ripping everyone off, bank cashiers are short changing you, etesca telephone kiosk women are ripping us off. I am sick of their theft. The police are stealing from the cabbies. This I saw! The tourist money has made them real crazy in the last year. The malecon is dead! I walked it twenty times at night. 18 months ago there were dozens and dozens, now there aren't any birds at all. Even the amount of youngsters having a good time has dropped. There are police everywhere and this year they have dogs. They also turn up in a white lorry with about 15 in at a time. Arresting the locals for absolutely anything. Man, what a police state this is.

Outside hotel National the hotel National taxi and security guy said the price of taxi to Varadero was 150 cuc. He said it was the ' Law' , well across the road three yellow govt taxis all quoted 100 cuc!! Everyone is ripping tourists off. They target Americans and Asians. They prey on you because some of these tourists are very very gullible. They have no respect for you whatsoever and are just stealing from you. It's as plain as that. The city is also very dirty and the broken roads and pavements are a serious health hazard especially at night. I won't be going back. It's the theft that got to me. The rest I can put up with, but all this fake socialist none sense is a joke. I know one thing though, Donald getting Bolsonaro to kick 8000 Cuban doctors and their paid salaries out of Brazil is going to hurt like hell. I met a lot of very unhappy Cubans during my long stay. Some people are getting very rich and a lot of poor people can see this and don't like it. Good luck Cuba, you are going to need it!!My sentiments also. I can't compare Havana to what it may have been in the past few years because I was there just once. Nevertheless when I was there in July it felt like attempts at ripoff happened incessantly. I am not naive to say foreigners visiting any other countries don't get ripped off but Cuba was particularly a standout, starting from the gringo price list to taxis to putas. You feel like there a constant barrage of elements after your pocket. Been there done that is all I can say.

Ty Down
12-20-18, 19:37
Firstly it's 10 cuc fantaxy to vedado. I did it twenty times. They always asked for 20 and I said no. Start walking and they will chase you. Or walk to a main road and call one by sticking your arm up. It will probably be 8 cuc then. These hookers are losing control. They are asking mental money and most have flabby stomachs after having a kid or two. They asked me for 150 and I never paid more than 50 for all night. 95% leave the club empty handed. Taxis are ripping everyone off, bank cashiers are short changing you, etesca telephone kiosk women are ripping us off. I am sick of their theft. The police are stealing from the cabbies. This I saw! The tourist money has made them real crazy in the last year. The malecon is dead! I walked it twenty times at night. 18 months ago there were dozens and dozens, now there aren't any birds at all. Even the amount of youngsters having a good time has dropped. There are police everywhere and this year they have dogs. They also turn up in a white lorry with about 15 in at a time. Arresting the locals for absolutely anything. Man, what a police state this is.

Outside hotel National the hotel National taxi and security guy said the price of taxi to Varadero was 150 cuc. He said it was the ' Law' , well across the road three yellow govt taxis all quoted 100 cuc!! Everyone is ripping tourists off. They target Americans and Asians. They prey on you because some of these tourists are very very gullible. They have no respect for you whatsoever and are just stealing from you. It's as plain as that. The city is also very dirty and the broken roads and pavements are a serious health hazard especially at night. I won't be going back. It's the theft that got to me. The rest I can put up with, but all this fake socialist none sense is a joke. I know one thing though, Donald getting Bolsonaro to kick 8000 Cuban doctors and their paid salaries out of Brazil is going to hurt like hell. I met a lot of very unhappy Cubans during my long stay. Some people are getting very rich and a lot of poor people can see this and don't like it. Good luck Cuba, you are going to need it!!Exactly, I've ranted about the Police situation a couple times here, nothing short of highway robbery going on in Havana. The taxi drivers are a huge problem as well.

BeersTerry
12-21-18, 21:19
Ya. Havana is a shit show, but it gets under your skin. I like it and I hate it.

Cuba is going into the toilet. Their ability to import goods has declined significantly. You can see it on the store shelves. You can see it in the shortage of cans to even package their own beer production.

This situation got a major impetus a few years ago during a corruption crackdown. They fired alot of middle managers who were corrupt BUT those managers stole a little bit, comparatively speaking. When those managers were fired and not replaced, everyone below working in the stores stole just about everything. You could see it in the streets at that time, Cubans had disposable income, they were spending it at the clubs, at the restaurants. The problem was that all that government inventory generated very little income to the state, the state had little money to rebuy goods for sale. The spiral that you are seeing today is the result of that massive firing.

The Tall Man
12-22-18, 16:41
Firstly it's 10 cuc fantaxy to vedado. I did it twenty times. They always asked for 20 and I said no. Start walking and they will chase you. Or walk to a main road and call one by sticking your arm up. It will probably be 8 cuc then. These hookers are losing control. They are asking mental money and most have flabby stomachs after having a kid or two. They asked me for 150 and I never paid more than 50 for all night. 95% leave the club empty handed. Taxis are ripping everyone off, bank cashiers are short changing you, etesca telephone kiosk women are ripping us off. I am sick of their theft. The police are stealing from the cabbies. This I saw! The tourist money has made them real crazy in the last year. The malecon is dead! I walked it twenty times at night. 18 months ago there were dozens and dozens, now there aren't any birds at all. Even the amount of youngsters having a good time has dropped. There are police everywhere and this year they have dogs. They also turn up in a white lorry with about 15 in at a time. Arresting the locals for absolutely anything. Man, what a police state this is.

Outside hotel National the hotel National taxi and security guy said the price of taxi to Varadero was 150 cuc. He said it was the ' Law' , well across the road three yellow govt taxis all quoted 100 cuc!! Everyone is ripping tourists off. They target Americans and Asians. They prey on you because some of these tourists are very very gullible. They have no respect for you whatsoever and are just stealing from you. It's as plain as that. The city is also very dirty and the broken roads and pavements are a serious health hazard especially at night. I won't be going back. It's the theft that got to me. The rest I can put up with, but all this fake socialist none sense is a joke. I know one thing though, Donald getting Bolsonaro to kick 8000 Cuban doctors and their paid salaries out of Brazil is going to hurt like hell. I met a lot of very unhappy Cubans during my long stay. Some people are getting very rich and a lot of poor people can see this and don't like it. Good luck Cuba, you are going to need it!!Yep Havana is done now, I threw in my hat after my visit 3 and a half years ago. Too many rip-offs and trouble with enjoying the ladies and having to feel like you have to constantly watch your back. Too bad. Prayers for the common Cuban along with Venezuelans.

The Tall Man.

Balimassage
01-12-19, 10:01
+1+1+1 on all the posts about how bad Havana has become. Nice to hear I'm not alone. I was there in 2002 and loved it and have been trying to get back ever since.

I was there last Feb, and took a room over in the "new town" by the US Embassy because some guidebook said it was the good part of town. Stick with old town. No taxi would touch me for under $10 for a 2 km drive. Hope I wasn't blasted by whatever they are nuking the embassy folks with.

The rip off and hassle was never-ending. The Cubans I met were so angry and sad. I'd walk in a bar and sit there for 5 minutes before anyone would bother to talk with me, and I've got money! I'd just come from Puerto Rico where it's smiles all over, what a contrast. I couldn't wait to leave. I never want to leave when I'm on vacation.

I flew out of Varadero, which was also terrible. Not a single bar on the beach out of some sort of "beach natural law" I'm guessing.

How terrible was it? I got to the airport 4 hrs early, just so I wouldn't miss my flight. Flying home never felt so good.

I wish you better Cuba, I know you're all fighting to just get by, but I ain't going back any time soon.

I think the only way to do Cuba is with organized tours. Those folks hopping in a convertible old USA car for the day and paying $150 are going to have a blast. Used to traveling latin america? You're going to go crazy.

Sorry for the debbie-downer post. I changed my USD to Euro's to avoid the conversion fees, and walked home w 300 E, money that could have been well spent, but wasn't. #SAD!

Uncle Volodya
01-14-19, 07:07
+1+1+1 on all the posts about how bad Havana has become. Nice to hear I'm not alone. !I'm sorry to hear you had a bad time but I can't say I agree.

Yes Havana is not easy point and click mongering like Pattaya or Sosua. But if you put in the work the results can be great, as I and several other BMs who were there in November and posted can attest.

You can find some very cute, young, and fresh girls who will rock your world with real GFE experience for 50 bucks or less. Not hard core putas but part times who are doign it for a little bit of extra cash.

But don' look to the bars or clubs. Those are a complete waste of time.

The key is to spend time at the hotspots. Certain sections of the Malecon, La Rampa. Be friendly, smiling, and gregarious. You don't' need a lot of spanish but a few phrases help. And above all be patient. It can take some time to find the right one and there will be a lot of dead time on the calle when the police presence is high and the girls are scared to talk. But if you take your time you will really be rewarded.

Collect the numbers for the good ones and call them over to your casa for repeat sessions. Bring modest gifts (chocolates, cheap perfume, clothes) and these girls will love you.

RamoneAustin
01-17-19, 05:23
+1+1+1 on all the posts about how bad Havana has become. Nice to hear I'm not alone. I was there in 2002 and loved it and have been trying to get back ever since.Has it really gotten this bad in Cuba (especially Havana)? It has been a year since the last time I was there (I have been doing scuba diving trips instead). I know that you have to plan, have to put in some work in, have to be vigilant and have to try to be aware of the best spots and time periods so it wasn't easy hunting in Cuba. But still I thought my time there was worth it. I hope it hasn't really gotten this bad there.

Me in Action in my 1st Cuban Trip:

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5c3fdbac2fffe

Chris H
01-17-19, 18:50
Has it really gotten this bad in Cuba (especially Havana)? It has been a year since the last time I was there (I have been doing scuba diving trips instead). I know that you have to plan, have to put in some work in, have to be vigilant and have to try to be aware of the best spots and time periods so it wasn't easy hunting in Cuba. But still I thought my time there was worth it. I hope it hasn't really gotten this bad there.

Me in Action in my 1st Cuban Trip:

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5c3fdbac2fffeNo it has not gotten bad at all. It may even be better now. Like it has been said many times, Havana is not for guys who need point and click girls. Not for those who don't want to go with the flow and allow the action to gradually occur. I am getting set for my 11th trip next week, and these trips have been taken in less than 2 years. Trust me, I would not be rolling down there so many times, if it was so boring. Smh.

DiavelLoco
01-18-19, 00:25
No it has not gotten bad at all. It may even be better now. Like it has been said many times, Havana is not for guys who need point and click girls. Not for those who don't want to go with the flow and allow the action to gradually occur. I am getting set for my 11th trip next week, and these trips have been taken in less than 2 years. Trust me, I would not be rolling down there so many times, if it was so boring. Smh.Can we meet up to share some info? Drinks and cigar on me.

Mr Gogo
01-18-19, 10:05
The girls are still in Cuba and they still like to fuck. With the new president he has this get tough policy to show he means business and everyone is nervous. Eventually everyone will relax and it will be good hunting. Probably best to be a low key monger as they are paying more attention to who is with us. Can't blame the girls for being cautious especially when threatened with three years in prison. Get the number and have them come to your place. Maybe not a good time to be hanging out in public to protect the girl. Or go online pre trip and line up girls and numbers for your arrival. The local girls without a phone might have to stick with the local trike guys so use them and pay the premium.

But don't pay the trike guy more than 10 cuc for the intro, 5 cuc would be even better but those guys can sense if you are desperate. If a trike guy says 50 cuc for the girl he is a crook, most guys on trikes pay these gurls 10-15 cuc for sex.

I've seen Havana go up and down in the last 6 years and it's just the natural rotation. Ask the locals about the new spot and check it out because I've seen spots that take over a year to reach tourists and the internet. Example; Pica flora or Saint John's was a cabaret on the 14th floor of the St John's hotel for years, then they changed the format and working girls started going. No one posted about it for a year until Grownman started going, then it became the spot. Hell I would sit at Sofias cafe which is two doors from st John's and never knew it was for working girls. Guys still talk here about salon de rojo but it hasn't been shit for awhile. La grunge has working girls night, gay night, and couples night so you got to tap into the local gossip to know what's going on.

Chris H
01-18-19, 16:03
Can we meet up to share some info? Drinks and cigar on me.What days will you be there next week? Would luv to meet up.

Uncle Volodya
01-18-19, 16:13
What days will you be there next week? Would luv to meet up.Damn now I am jealous as hell. Chris H is a real compadre. No better guy to show you around. Would give my left nut to be with you guys and hit the Malecon to meet some sexy chicas.

Catire
01-18-19, 16:31
No it has not gotten bad at all. It may even be better now. Like it has been said many times, Havana is not for guys who need point and click girls. Not for those who don't want to go with the flow and allow the action to gradually occur. I am getting set for my 11th trip next week, and these trips have been taken in less than 2 years. Trust me, I would not be rolling down there so many times, if it was so boring. Smh.I trust your Spanish is at least functional?

DiavelLoco
01-18-19, 17:08
What days will you be there next week? Would luv to meet up.I am here for quite some time. Let me know the date / dates you want to meet up and I would be happy to clear my schedule. I have a car here if that helps.

BeersTerry
01-19-19, 18:56
Ya, Havana is worse. Don't know how anyone can say it isn't.

The new military regime has a crackdown going on. I mean, they ran out of flour in December and had to pay cash for an emergency shipment from the USA. No bread? That is the stuff of revolutions.

Currently (January) there is a transportation crackdown. Most of the gypsy cabs and lots of the collectivos are gone. The lack of collectivos andgypsy cabs mean that the regular taxis start at $7 for short rides. Also way fewer bicitaxis.

There is beer in restaurants (mostly Sol, Presidente & Hollandia) but almost none in the stores. Ended up in Miramar to buy a couple of cases of Presidente, though there was some beer in Galleria de Paseo. Also no eggs and not much chicken to be found.

The lack of transportation has affected the number of chicas at the clubs. Ya there are some but most girls found are from close by. That means worse in Miramar and still the same in centro and vieja.


btw............es winter time in Cuba too! That means the malecon is very very windy at night. You think Cubans are hanging around the malecon at night when I see them wearing coats during the day ? Daytime temps were 27 C. If you can speak Spanish, daytime is always the best time to be finding chicas

Combo
01-19-19, 23:09
Ya, Havana is worse. Don't know how anyone can say it isn't.

The new military regime has a crackdown going on. I mean, they ran out of flour in December and had to pay cash for an emergency shipment from the USA. No bread? That is the stuff of revolutions.

Currently (January) there is a transportation crackdown. Most of the gypsy cabs and lots of the collectivos are gone. The lack of collectivos andgypsy cabs mean that the regular taxis start at $7 for short rides. Also way fewer bicitaxis.

There is beer in restaurants (mostly Sol, Presidente & Hollandia) but almost none in the stores. Ended up in Miramar to buy a couple of cases of Presidente, though there was some beer in Galleria de Paseo. Also no eggs and not much chicken to be found.

The lack of transportation has affected the number of chicas at the clubs. Ya there are some but most girls found are from close by. That means worse in Miramar and still the same in centro and vieja.

btw............es winter time in Cuba too! That means the malecon is very very windy at night. You think Cubans are hanging around the malecon at night when I see them wearing coats during the day ? Daytime temps were 27 C. If you can speak Spanish, daytime is always the best time to be finding chicasWhy would they need to import flour? You can make flour from almost any grain. Shortage of eggs and chicken?

Yandel19
01-20-19, 18:05
Cuba is really not a good place to monger. Cubans only see Americans as walking ATM. I speak Spanish but there are much better countries to monger. Don't go to Cuba its a shitty country. No beer at the airpot.

Yandel19
01-20-19, 18:08
Cuba is not a good place to monger. Most Cuban chicks are stuck up and want to charge Americans 150. There's shortage of bread beer everything is missing. Cubans see Americans as stupid people who they want to scam and steal from you. Airport agents in Cuba are SOB. I speak Spanish but I will never visit Cuba again. Go to Colombia way better.

Ty Down
01-20-19, 18:12
Why would they need to import flour? You can make flour from almost any grain. Shortage of eggs and chicken?Grain Crops do not grow in the tropics. Wheat, rye, barley, oats are known as "winter crops" because they are sown in the fall of the year and harvested in the spring. Not possible in Cuba.

Last time I was in Cuba, last March, we could not find any Crystal Beer, word on the street was that the Palador restaurants were buying up the entire supply, but even the restaurants didn't have Crystal Beer. Bummer.

Eggs. Very hard to find, we went to all the Mercados in the area and no eggs, finally found some at a filthy government run rationing department on Calle 1 ra about 2 blocks behind the Melia Cohiba hotel.

Milk, forget it.

Watered down Rum, plenty of that shit.

Zhagolo52
01-20-19, 18:20
Very well put Chris, people think Cuba will be easy like DR, CR or Colombia and they get there and they get hit with the reality of things that you actually have to do a lot of leg work at times. Glad at least some people are still enjoying it.


No it has not gotten bad at all. It may even be better now. Like it has been said many times, Havana is not for guys who need point and click girls. Not for those who don't want to go with the flow and allow the action to gradually occur. I am getting set for my 11th trip next week, and these trips have been taken in less than 2 years. Trust me, I would not be rolling down there so many times, if it was so boring. Smh.

PeacefulRunner
01-21-19, 09:59
I am going to vacation in Cuba in Feb. I'd like to stop by the island like Cayo Largo? I suppose it will be the all-included package in the hotel.

Does anyone has experience in this vacation hotel. Could we make some activities there? Any spot to hook up girls there or attract waitress?

Thanks in advance!

Chris H
01-21-19, 16:01
I trust your Spanish is at least functional?My Spanish is very low, but I know how to communicate with the chicas at all times, very simple!

BeersTerry
01-21-19, 16:07
Communist regimes collapse, not from being overthrown militarily but from economic exhaustion. Cuba is economically exhausted. Look at what happend (and fast) to Venezuela when the government centralized control.

Cuba has incredible soil but farm productivity is very very low. I think food comprises 70% of Cubas' imports. There is no money for anything else. There is no aluminum for cans (and hence beer), no glass. There is no productivity. The economy is swirling around the bowl, it is a matter of time until it goes down unless it wants to decentralize.

Kalifornication
01-21-19, 20:34
Communist regimes collapse, not from being overthrown militarily but from economic exhaustion. Cuba is economically exhausted. Look at what happend (and fast) to Venezuela when the government centralized control.

Cuba has incredible soil but farm productivity is very very low. I think food comprises 70% of Cubas' imports. There is no money for anything else. There is no aluminum for cans (and hence beer), no glass. There is no productivity. The economy is swirling around the bowl, it is a matter of time until it goes down unless it wants to decentralize.Simplistic analysis buddy.

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is a partly autobiographical book written by John Perkins published in 2004. It provides Perkins' account of his career with engineering consulting firm Chas. T. Main in Boston. According to Perkins, his role at Main was to convince leaders of underdeveloped countries to accept substantial development loans for large construction and engineering projects that would primarily help the richest families and local elites, rather than the poor, while making sure that these projects were contracted to USA Companies. Later these loans would give the USA Political influence and access to natural resources for USA Companies. He refers to this as an economic hit man. Although he states that throughout his career he has always worked for private companies, and suggests a system of corporatocracy and greed, rather than a single conspiracy, he claims the involvement of the National Security Agency, with whom he had interviewed for a job before joining Main. According to the author, this interview effectively constituted an independent screening which led to his subsequent hiring as an economic hit man.

BeersTerry
01-21-19, 20:37
Okay You got a bigger dick.

Ty Down
01-21-19, 22:37
I am going to vacation in Cuba in Feb. I'd like to stop by the island like Cayo Largo? I suppose it will be the all-included package in the hotel.

Does anyone has experience in this vacation hotel. Could we make some activities there? Any spot to hook up girls there or attract waitress?

Thanks in advance!Cayo Largo is located in the "Garden of the Queens" I believe. It is touted as the best in the world for scuba diving. Look up Jardines de la Reina Marine Park. Divers and researchers come from all over the world to dive and study there. . and I believe it a UNESCO World Heritage site. It would be a great place to visit, but I sincerely doubt if there's much mongering going on there. https://www.worldnomads.com/explore/caribbean/cuba/top-scuba-diving-sites-in-cuba#jardines-de-la-reina.

Cayo Coco may be a better destination for chicas and resorts. Plus there's an international airport there.

Ty Down
01-21-19, 22:51
Communist regimes collapse, not from being overthrown militarily but from economic exhaustion. Cuba is economically exhausted. Look at what happend (and fast) to Venezuela when the government centralized control.

Cuba has incredible soil but farm productivity is very very low. I think food comprises 70% of Cubas' imports. There is no money for anything else. There is no aluminum for cans (and hence beer), no glass. There is no productivity. The economy is swirling around the bowl, it is a matter of time until it goes down unless it wants to decentralize.I met a old guy from Finland in Havana a couple years ago, he was a college professor. He went on to tell me that he had been studying the economic and political situation in Cuba for over 20 years, and he said that the more he studied Cuba, the less he understood about Cuba, a true enigma.

Cuba is literally crumbling before our eyes. It would take the US Military about 30 minutes to replace Cuba's military and government.

My theory is that the US is propping up Cuba with just enough money to get by, because Cuba, in its current state is zero threat to anyone, right where we want them. Don't forget, from a strategic stand point, Cuba is the key to the New World, Cuba is a US Naval Base (Guantanamo Bay).

Combo
01-22-19, 00:54
Simplistic analysis buddy.

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is a partly autobiographical book written by John Perkins published in 2004. It provides Perkins' account of his career with engineering consulting firm Chas. T. Main in Boston. According to Perkins, his role at Main was to convince leaders of underdeveloped countries to accept substantial development loans for large construction and engineering projects that would primarily help the richest families and local elites, rather than the poor, while making sure that these projects were contracted to USA Companies. Later these loans would give the USA Political influence and access to natural resources for USA Companies. He refers to this as an economic hit man. Although he states that throughout his career he has always worked for private companies, and suggests a system of corporatocracy and greed, rather than a single conspiracy, he claims the involvement of the National Security Agency, with whom he had interviewed for a job before joining Main. According to the author, this interview effectively constituted an independent screening which led to his subsequent hiring as an economic hit man.Good book, but doesn't have much relevance to Cuba. The US hasn't "forced" any development loans on Cuba. In fact, quite the opposite. We've tried starving them of International financial flows, which certainly has made things worse there. But their system is pretty much a disaster by itself.

DiavelLoco
01-22-19, 17:05
Doing a bit of exploring in Havana again and trying to convince myself that Havana is not dead. Will meet up with some people here this week and see how things develop. Will keep you guys posted. Happy hunting all!

TwistedBrother
01-23-19, 22:39
Was in Cuba for the 4th time in the past 5 years and, for once, was staying in a crowded area near downtown (Habana Libre). I didn't really do my homework on this site, but just struck out on my own walking the streets nearby and hoping to get lucky and not get hurt. I was with a group for an event and only late at night did I have free time. Mostly walked up and down Avenida 23 to the waterfront and back, often among massive crowds of younger folks having a good time and hanging out.

I also wove in and out of the side streets and saw SWs here and there, ranging in quality. But Saturday night I happened to see a young cutie sitting in the crowd in front of a business. She gave me an air kiss and I gave her a long look. I walked around the corner and sat down with some room to breath, and she followed me. She knew a little English and basically propositioned me. I felt wary, but the little head was doing most of the thinking. She was so cute and looked 20-ish. She asked for 40 cucs, plus 10 for the casa and 5 for the taxi. I threw caution to the wind and followed her.

We got a cab and headed several blocks away, with me groping her pert little boobies. I didn't realize it, but where we stopped was actually close to my hotel, just around the corner and down a hill. We went into an alley and knocked on a door. A really old lady answered and let us in. It was pretty dingy and worn in there, but I expected that and I've mongered in worse. We went upstairs, I gave her 40 cucs and we started to disrobe. I was still a bit wary and on edge. But suddenly she's naked and hugging me and I'm like, oh shit, this is really going to happen. I've hardly ever been with a girl this young in 27 years of mongering (mostly in the states, a little on international trips like this).

Now, unfortunately, I had NOT planned to monger on this trip in general, and had not brought any trusty vitamin V. Nor did I have a lot of energy, having been on my feet all day. I wasn't showed and clean either (I usually make a point of it), so more self-conscious than usual. But it was still happening and she was letting me kiss her, suck on her nice boobies and then I had her on the bed and was licking her little, trimmed pussy. Holy crap.

I was getting barely passable wood, due to the factors mentioned above, so I went in sooner than I wanted, but it was necessary if I wanted to finish. Oh, almost forgot: She asked if I had a condom. I did not and neither did she. I wanted BBFS anyway, but hadn't expected to get it. Damn, it was awesome. She was flexible and in mish I was able to get her legs all the way back, my perfect position. I knew I might get soft in a few minutes, but fortunately I was so turned on that I was able to inject that cute pussy with a warm creampie just in time. Heaven!

We cleaned up, exited and took a cab back. I just couldn't believe my luck (knock on wood). She said she was 18 and she barely looked that, plus she was honest and gave me my money's worth. 60 cucs total for some of the cutest, youngest (but legal) pussy ever. I wished I had my boner pills and been cleaned up. Maybe with that and more cash we could have drawn it out more than an hour for more enjoyment. But still, truly truly memorable. I'm so sorry I can't recall her name. But she was sitting near Calle P, on the east side of Avenida.

I tried to find her the next night and couldn't. I did see another young one that had been with her the previous night, but the cops were driving up and down and looking my way (in my paranoid mind), so I didn't press my luck.

Uncle Volodya
01-24-19, 06:40
Was in Cuba for the 4th time in the past 5 years and, for once, was staying in a crowded area near downtown (Habana Libre). I didn't really do my homework on this site, but just struck out on my own walking the streets nearby and hoping to get lucky and not get hurt. I was with a group for an event and only late at night did I have free time. Mostly walked up and down Avenida 23 to the waterfront and back, often among massive crowds of younger folks having a good time and hanging out.

I also wove in and out of the side streets and saw SWs here and there, ranging in quality. But Saturday night I happened to see a young cutie sitting in the crowd in front of a business. She gave me an air kiss and I gave her a long look. I walked around the corner and sat down with some room to breath, and she followed me. She knew a little English and basically propositioned me. I felt wary, but the little head was doing most of the thinking. She was so cute and looked 20-ish. She asked for 40 cucs, plus 10 for the casa and 5 for the taxi. I threw caution to the wind and followed her.

I just couldn't believe my luck (knock on wood). She said she was 18 and she barely looked that, plus she was honest and gave me my money's worth. 60 cucs total for some of the cutest, youngest (but legal) pussy ever. I wished I had my boner pills and been cleaned up. Maybe with that and more cash we could have drawn it out more than an hour for more enjoyment. But still, truly truly memorable. I'm so sorry I can't recall her name. But she was sitting near Calle P, on the east side of Avenida.

I tried to find her the next night and couldn't. I did see another young one that had been with her the previous night, but the cops were driving up and down and looking my way (in my paranoid mind), so I didn't press my luck.Awesome post. I am glad to hear you had fun.

Yes this is how it is done in Cuba. Trolling La Rampa and other hots pots is the best bet. It just takes time, patience and legwork. But all that walking is good exercise.

You can also stop form time at some of the wifi hotspts and take a rest. Outside Sorae why El CUervo Jazz Club, the La Rampa Theater (across from La Haban Libre), further on down 23 before the Cave and Malecon, by the parks that are in those side streets etc. Lots of girls hanging out there. Park yourself next to one, open up wifi and check your email, and strike up a conversation.

Don't worry about cops. They won't hassle you. But the poos little chicas can get in a lot of trouble so don't linger too much in conversation. Best to either take them right away or get their numbers for later.

TwistedBrother
01-24-19, 19:42
Awesome post. I am glad to hear you had fun.

Yes this is how it is done in Cuba. Trolling La Rampa and other hots pots is the best bet. It just takes time, patience and legwork. But all that walking is good exercise.

You can also stop form time at some of the wifi hotspts and take a rest. Outside Sorae why El CUervo Jazz Club, the La Rampa Theater (across from La Haban Libre), further on down 23 before the Cave and Malecon, by the parks that are in those side streets etc. Lots of girls hanging out there. Park yourself next to one, open up wifi and check your email, and strike up a conversation.

Don't worry about cops. They won't hassle you. But the poos little chicas can get in a lot of trouble so don't linger too much in conversation. Best to either take them right away or get their numbers for later.Thanks a lot for the tips. I hope to visit again in June. And yes indeed, all of the walking was very good exercise, LOL.

DiavelLoco
01-28-19, 18:12
Was out and about with Chris H, in Havana during the weekend. What I can say about Havana now is the place is epic. Its not a point and choose place as much as some of you or even myself would have thought. You need to explore the city to really know its true potential. Yes, some might rip you off and take advantage of us thinking we are cash cows, which is pretty normal for places where the majority of them earn less than 50 bucks a month. Being street smart and exploring with an open mind would make a huge difference.

We explored the streets, the parks and clubs around old Havana and central Havana and found way too many girls. I was spoilt for choice and towards the end of the day, always out of leche to even commit to anything, despite my desire for wanting more. Paid around 40-60 bucks for all the girls that we picked up. All in, I had 3 mulatas and 1 white girl in 2 days. Some are great and 1 was a bit disappointing because of her hygiene was not up to my standard. I can't share pics in here but to give you a rough idea, the girls at the clubs were ranging from 6-9 in average for 40-60 bucks. Girls were all over us everywhere we went. My top 2 clubs are piano bar and Cuba club in central Havana. Go and explore it yourself and let me know what you think.

DiavelLoco
01-28-19, 18:39
Just to share, late last night until early this morning, Havana was hit by a tornado and tropical cyclone that came with it. Tropical cyclone category 4 as reported by the gov. Electricity is still down, up until now. Stay safe everyone in Havana!

JHappyDog
01-29-19, 00:12
Oh, almost forgot: She asked if I had a condom. I did not and neither did she. I wanted BBFS anyway, but hadn't expected to get it. Damn, it was awesome. She was flexible and in mish I was able to get her legs all the way back, my perfect position. I knew I might get soft in a few minutes, but fortunately I was so turned on that I was able to inject that cute pussy with a warm creampie just in time. Heaven!

I tried to find her the next night and couldn't. I did see another young one that had been with her the previous night, but the cops were driving up and down and looking my way (in my paranoid mind), so I didn't press my luck.Thank you Nice report, you have given me back faith in Havana. Although I think you are going to have to make a 5th trip in approx. Nine months.

DiavelLoco
01-29-19, 15:08
Thank you Nice report, you have given me back faith in Havana. Although I think you are going to have to make a 5th trip in approx. Nine months.Trust me, Havana is still alive and kicking. I lost faith before this but from what I saw here, the past few days, it was great.

Chris H
01-29-19, 21:00
Trust me, Havana is still alive and kicking. I lost faith before this but from what I saw here, the past few days, it was great.I am very glad I could help restore your faith. We had a blast. Nonstop fun and chicas all over us! Hope everyone else is able to explore the goods!

DiavelLoco
01-30-19, 16:40
I am very glad I could help restore your faith. We had a blast. Nonstop fun and chicas all over us! Hope everyone else is able to explore the goods!Thanks for your time taking me around, bud. Looking forward to catch up with you again in March!

PeacefulRunner
01-30-19, 23:22
I am very glad I could help restore your faith. We had a blast. Nonstop fun and chicas all over us! Hope everyone else is able to explore the goods!Sounds fantastic guys. Look forward to meeting you soon!

PeacefulRunner
01-30-19, 23:32
Was out and about with Chris H, in Havana during the weekend. What I can say about Havana now is the place is epic. Its not a point and choose place as much as some of you or even myself would have thought. You need to explore the city to really know its true potential. Yes, some might rip you off and take advantage of us thinking we are cash cows, which is pretty normal for places where the majority of them earn less than 50 bucks a month. Being street smart and exploring with an open mind would make a huge difference.

We explored the streets, the parks and clubs around old Havana and central Havana and found way too many girls. I was spoilt for choice and towards the end of the day, always out of leche to even commit to anything, despite my desire for wanting more. Paid around 40-60 bucks for all the girls that we picked up. All in, I had 3 mulatas and 1 white girl in 2 days. Some are great and 1 was a bit disappointing because of her hygiene was not up to my standard. I can't share pics in here but to give you a rough idea, the girls at the clubs were ranging from 6-9 in average for 40-60 bucks. Girls were all over us everywhere we went. My top 2 clubs are piano bar and Cuba club in central Havana. Go and explore it yourself and let me know what you think.Fantastic buddy!

What's the 40-60 form? Short time or overnight?

How do you get the casa setup?

Cheers for your great process!

The Tall Man
01-31-19, 03:03
Trust me, Havana is still alive and kicking. I lost faith before this but from what I saw here, the past few days, it was great.I chuckle even at myself as I read just a couple of hopeful reports about a mongers recent experience in Havana and start thinking to myself that after a 3 plus year hiatus I should put it back on the radar screen for another visit.

You know were all hoes looking for our next adventure!

The Tall Man.

XxxJimbo
01-31-19, 07:51
I have a trip with people in March, but hope to head there one day early and enjoy the women in private before I join the others. Best places to stay? Any hotels safe for mongers? Or AirBNB better? Protocols?

DiavelLoco
01-31-19, 17:15
Fantastic buddy!

What's the 40-60 form? Short time or overnight?

How do you get the casa setup?

Cheers for your great process!Short time. You can even get 20-30 during the day, if you're up for it. Chris H got loads with that amount of money. All you need to do is walk around the city and look for them. I saw it with my own eyes, how its done by Chris and trust me, its really up to you whether you're up for it or not.

DiavelLoco
01-31-19, 23:00
I have a trip with people in March, but hope to head there one day early and enjoy the women in private before I join the others. Best places to stay? Any hotels safe for mongers? Or AirBNB better? Protocols?Get one of the casa particulares in old Havana or Havana centro for 25-40 per night. Use it just for mongering purpose if you want and stay at a proper hotel. Walk around and ask the owner if its girl friendly.

RamoneAustin
02-01-19, 01:36
I chuckle even at myself as I read just a couple of hopeful reports about a mongers recent experience in Havana and start thinking to myself that after a 3 plus year hiatus I should put it back on the radar screen for another visit.

You know were all hoes looking for our next adventure!

The Tall Man.Preach preach brother. I hear ya. I might have to go back and "investigate" myself. LOL.

Chris H
02-01-19, 16:11
Thanks for your time taking me around, bud. Looking forward to catch up with you again in March!Oh yeah, March can't come soon enough. I will be sure to let you know if I make it down there for a weekend trip before the March date.

XxxJimbo
02-02-19, 08:28
Get one of the casa particulares in old Havana or Havana centro for 25-40 per night. Use it just for mongering purpose if you want and stay at a proper hotel. Walk around and ask the owner if its girl friendly.Found Avery central AirBNB that looks nice for about $80. Thanking about using that for one night, mongering and lodging. 2 bedroom.

Why would that not be girl friendly? Hoping I can just walk her in.

DiavelLoco
02-02-19, 20:13
Found Avery central AirBNB that looks nice for about $80. Thanking about using that for one night, mongering and lodging. 2 bedroom.

Why would that not be girl friendly? Hoping I can just walk her in.Some owners might have issues bringing girls in. Make sure to check first before making the booking.

Chris H
02-02-19, 21:14
Found Avery central AirBNB that looks nice for about $80. Thanking about using that for one night, mongering and lodging. 2 bedroom.

Why would that not be girl friendly? Hoping I can just walk her in.You are paying a lot for that case. Do you have the whole home to yourself?

XxxJimbo
02-04-19, 06:58
Get one of the casa particulares in old Havana or Havana centro for 25-40 per night. Use it just for mongering purpose if you want and stay at a proper hotel. Walk around and ask the owner if its girl friendly.Can I just rent that when I get there? Help me pinpoint the neighborhood where those are? Thank you!

XxxJimbo
02-04-19, 07:02
You are paying a lot for that case. Do you have the whole home to yourself?Yes, 2 bedroom apartment. Figured bed for fun and bed for sleep. I don't know how to ado about girls on AirBNB without being obvious. Maybe I chance it and get the Casa Particular if it is a no. Go? Or downgrade my AirBNB and do the Casa Particular regardless, if I can get them quite close. I just don't know the area.

Uncle Volodya
02-04-19, 13:21
You are paying a lot for that case. Do you have the whole home to yourself?Yes 80 sounds steep. Unless it is super luxurious.

I've paid about 30-40 for a place all to myself. In Vedado. Right off La Rampa.

When checkign around AirBnb I found thatt the nicer places all have issues with bringing girls. So check with the casa owner. I usually send them a PM asking if they are ok wiht me having guests over.