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Her sister being granted US citizenship doesn't mean she can come immediately to the USA, a petition from a brother / sister will take a very long time, probably she will be very old by then. The F4 visa (siblings petition), right now they're processing those who were petitioned September 22, 2006!I don't know about that, not being American myself. But her mother has left last month, and I know the petition is from last year.
I'm waiting for the borders to open for her to come to me.
Chica I'm chatting with in Havana told me the airports are opening in November. I couldn't find anything with a quick search, but exciting news.
DiavelLoco
10-08-20, 14:58
Chica I'm chatting with in Havana told me the airports are opening in November. I couldn't find anything with a quick search, but exciting news.Not sure about that. No announcement from the cuban gov yet. To be honest, I doubt it. I have friends living here that left Cuba few months ago still struggling to come back with numerous rejections from the ministry of interior.
DiavelLoco
10-09-20, 15:22
The gov announced yesterday that they will start to reopen airports in Cuba except havana, ciego de avila and sancti spiritus starting from next week gradually. No specific dates given but who cares. should be 12 october onwards. This is a huge step. Hopefully havana by the end of the month or November. Start planning guys!
AmorPorFavor
10-10-20, 07:17
Cubans don't need visa to go to russia. She could have fled Cuba and stayed on in russia but I guess things didn't work out for her then. Getting out of the country to anywhere in the world is already half the battle won for cubans in general. The next step is to settle down and find something to do once they are out of the country and not planning to return. That is why its so difficult for them to get visas.A very pretty girl can live a good life in Havana if she is willing to sleep around for money. I know one well who has all sorts of expensive designer clothing, jewelry, new phones, a nice new scooter and such. She is renovating an apartment to live in and she is only 20 years old. She commands 100 CUCs but its worth it for a 3-4 hour GFE with her. She could easily get $500 or more in the US all day. She is doing some modeling now and is a stone cold 10. I can't wait to get back there, she says she will go to Veradero with me next time.
Muzungufotsy
10-10-20, 08:36
Right now since there are no tourists on the ground people would be foolish to pay 100 $ for a Cuban girl except desperate guys of course. Prices for pussy go down everywhere on the planet and we are in charge not the girls so no need to pay stupid prices like 5 months salary for a shag.
AmorPorFavor
10-11-20, 02:14
I also always bring her una bolsa de regalos consisting of some fancy chocolates and soaps with some cheap perfume. She loves it and it costs me about $25, less than what I pay for 2 cocktails here in the US. She loves giving BBJs and will suck my balls for a half hour straight with her perfect 10 face. The sex is unlimited, as much as I can handle.
Muzungufotsy
10-11-20, 07:43
Without pics talking about a perfect 10 face is useless and Cuban girls don't care about fancy chocolates they want enough pesos to buy food at the mercado that's it. And they all have their Cuban boyfriends already to fuck them limitless and cum inside their pussy when you are not there. Think about that when you will be back and are about to lick her pussy.
AmorPorFavor
10-11-20, 21:26
She always shows up on time with a big smile for me. She is dressed in expensive designer clothes (sexy lingerie underneath) with tons of gold jewelry on and designer sunglasses. Last trip she had a new top of the line Iphone and a new Kawasaki scooter. The last time I saw her she surprised me by showing up with her hot girlfriend (a solid 9) and they sucked my dick together, bareback of course, for a long time and then took turns riding me until I couldn't hold my load anymore. They split the 100 CUCs so it didn't cost me any more than the usual. It was an all time session. Next trip I'm going to take her to the Melia Internacional on the beach for a few nights. Its only about $250-$300 a night all inclusive. It looks to be the nicest hotel in Veradero. I'm sure we will get some stares from the old couples since she is over 30 years younger than me at 20 years old.
Without pics talking about a perfect 10 face is useless and Cuban girls don't care about fancy chocolates they want enough pesos to buy food at the mercado that's it. And they all have their Cuban boyfriends already to fuck them limitless and cum inside their pussy when you are not there. Think about that when you will be back and are about to lick her pussy.Doesn't matter what you think regarding Amorporfavor. He has his MO and you have yours. His reports are informative.
AmorPorFavor
10-11-20, 23:31
Doesn't matter what you think regarding Amorporfavor. He has his MO and you have yours. His reports are informative.Exactly, thanks. I don't need to cheap the girls for an amount of money that means nothing to me so long as it is within reason considering the prevailing rates. Everything in Cuba is cheap, especially the fine pussy. I want the girl to be happy with the deal so that I get their best service and they want to repeat. Some people like to high roll it on vacation and some like to low life it. I don't judge them for that.
Next trip I'm going to take her to the Melia Internacional on the beach for a few nights. Its only about $250-$300 a night all inclusive. It looks to be the nicest hotel in Veradero. I'm sure we will get some stares from the old couples since she is over 30 years younger than me at 20 years old.You may run into some problems with the Cuban authorities bringing a Cuban Chica to Veradero. It's my understanding that the local cubans can visit Veradero during the day, but they can't stay overnight.
I don't know this to be a fact, but just my 2 pesos. Maybe someone else on this board has more info.
AmorPorFavor
10-12-20, 01:47
You may run into some problems with the Cuban authorities bringing a Cuban Chica to Veradero. It's my understanding that the local cubans can visit Veradero during the day, but they can't stay overnight.
I don't know this to be a fact, but just my 2 pesos. Maybe someone else on this board has more info.Yes I was wondering about that. It would suck to go all the way out there and get denied. I do know that she took a family vacation out there this summer and stayed at one of the all inclusive resorts. She sent me some great pics of her and the family at the pool and beach. She has said that yes she wants to go. Any info on this from the seasoned Cuban mongers would be greatly appreciated.
Yes I was wondering about that. It would suck to go all the way out there and get deniedThere's a lot of things that suck in Cuba. But on the other hand, there's a lot of things that are fantastic in Cuba.
You may run into some problems with the Cuban authorities bringing a Cuban Chica to Veradero. It's my understanding that the local cubans can visit Veradero during the day, but they can't stay overnight.
I don't know this to be a fact, but just my 2 pesos. Maybe someone else on this board has more info.Actually that was years ago now they are free to go and stay in the hotels but all hotels in Varadero are all inclusive and the price per night is per person. Not per room also they won't let you bring girls into hotel unless they are staying there get a Casa particular is way better.
You may run into some problems with the Cuban authorities bringing a Cuban Chica to Veradero. It's my understanding that the local cubans can visit Veradero during the day, but they can't stay overnight.
I don't know this to be a fact, but just my 2 pesos. Maybe someone else on this board has more info.What may have changed with the covid I don't know. But the town part of Varadero is a place where many Cubans live, I have stayed there in a casa particular with a Cuban family that lived there so it's not a place where they just visit. Some of the resorts themselves may be that way, and more now with rules around Covid. So I doubt you would be able to bring a guest into a resort anywhere in Cuba right now.
Some of the other resort areas are out on keys where everyone does come in and out every day from the mainland, but not Varadero.
AmorPorFavor
10-12-20, 05:30
What may have changed with the covid I don't know. But the town part of Varadero is a place where many Cubans live, I have stayed there in a casa particular with a Cuban family that lived there so it's not a place where they just visit. Some of the resorts themselves may be that way, and more now with rules around Covid. So I doubt you would be able to bring a guest into a resort anywhere in Cuba right now.
Some of the other resort areas are out on keys where everyone does come in and out every day from the mainland, but not Varadero.I'm not planning to go back until next spring, hopefully after getting a vaccination. I have been to Veradero twice. The beaches are incredible. I'm pretty sure I can take her so long as I register her when making the reservation. I know the Cubans can go to the resorts but I think they just go in the summer when its cheaper with few foreign tourists around and Havana is sweltering hot.
DiavelLoco
10-12-20, 14:54
You may run into some problems with the Cuban authorities bringing a Cuban Chica to Veradero. It's my understanding that the local cubans can visit Veradero during the day, but they can't stay overnight.
I don't know this to be a fact, but just my 2 pesos. Maybe someone else on this board has more info.Before the pandemic, you can bring any cubana you want to your hotel, provided she is checked in together with you and registered. I have done it seveeral times at the mediocre hotels and also the expensive ones. In any case you intend to change your partner, that will be a problem, unless you are able to remove the tag from your old girl to the new one, which I doubt that it is going to be easy. At this moment, cheap varadero hotels and casa particulares are open to everyone. On 15 October, the better hotels will be opening up but only to international tourists. Myself, a foreigner living in Cuba won't be able to go to these hotels during that time until it is open for domestic tourists. In this case, you cannot bring your chica to the hotel in varadero. Probably in a month or two, they will revert to the pre covid policy. Nobody knows at this moment. Cuba can be crazy. I have not heard of any country going from phase zero to phase three in a day. You can't simply bypass all the processes needed especially in dealing with this pandemic. Only Cuba can do that.
DiavelLoco
10-12-20, 14:59
Exactly, thanks. I don't need to cheap the girls for an amount of money that means nothing to me so long as it is within reason considering the prevailing rates. Everything in Cuba is cheap, especially the fine pussy. I want the girl to be happy with the deal so that I get their best service and they want to repeat. Some people like to high roll it on vacation and some like to low life it. I don't judge them for that.You are absolutely right. I can lowball whenever I want to but I prefer quality more than quantity. I have various rates from 40 to 100. They give me different services / performance to commensurate the money they receive.
You may run into some problems with the Cuban authorities bringing a Cuban Chica to Veradero. It's my understanding that the local cubans can visit Veradero during the day, but they can't stay overnight.
I don't know this to be a fact, but just my 2 pesos. Maybe someone else on this board has more info.I didn't have any problem taking my girlfriend to Guardalavaca (like Varadero, but in Holguin, as I was visiting Oriente), so I think there will be no problem at all.
AmorPorFavor
10-12-20, 17:23
You are absolutely right. I can lowball whenever I want to but I prefer quality more than quantity. I have various rates from 40 to 100. They give me different services / performance to commensurate the money they receive.That is exactly the range that I have paid. Mostly 60-80 in Havana for beautiful young women but this chica is special. In Cienfuegos the rates are cheaper and I have paid 40-60. Do you know what is the street exchange rate for dollars to CUCs now?
I didn't have any problem taking my girlfriend to Guardalavaca (like Varadero, but in Holguin, as I was visiting Oriente), so I think there will be no problem at all.Thank you HSendatsu, I wasn't 100% sure if you could or not, as DavielLoco mentioned, the key is checking in with your chica by your side, but you can't be running one chica after another into your hotel room. Got to stay with the same one. My problem with my regular chica, is that she absolutely refuses to register anywhere, casa, hotel, doesn't matter. When I go to Cuba, she has a nice casa already lined up, where she knows the casa owner, and he looks the other way when it comes to her having to register.
That is exactly the range that I have paid. Mostly 60-80 in Havana for beautiful young women but this chica is special. In Cienfuegos the rates are cheaper and I have paid 40-60. Do you know what is the street exchange rate for dollars to CUCs now?I have never been to Cuba, so my question is what's stopping a gringo from paying a chica in dolares if 1 dollar equals 1 cuc according to a money converter app I have?
AmorPorFavor
10-12-20, 22:13
Thank you HSendatsu, I wasn't 100% sure if you could or not, as DavielLoco mentioned, the key is checking in with your chica by your side, but you can't be running one chica after another into your hotel room. Got to stay with the same one. My problem with my regular chica, is that she absolutely refuses to register anywhere, casa, hotel, doesn't matter. When I go to Cuba, she has a nice casa already lined up, where she knows the casa owner, and he looks the other way when it comes to her having to register.So fellas the plan is to tell the main chica that I am arriving in Havana about 5 days later than I actually am. In those days I will look up 2 other chicas who I have have been with and am in contact with and scout around for some new pussy. Then have main chica over to the Havana casa for a couple of nights and then taxi out to Veradero with her for 2 or 3 nights then back to Havana for a couple of nights and then home.
DiavelLoco
10-13-20, 15:47
I have never been to Cuba, so my question is what's stopping a gringo from paying a chica in dolares if 1 dollar equals 1 cuc according to a money converter app I have?At this moment, you can pay for almost anything and everything in USD in Cuba, unless you want to go to the slump and shop at the local markets, which I doubt is going to happen. Everyone is looking for dollars right now. CUC is slowly phasing out so there is no point keeping it. Most good stores in Cuba are now MLC stores (usd or convertible currencies using card). Probably difficult to understand but this is the reality and what is currently happening. I pity them cubans but this is life. You deserve the government that you have I guess. I don't intend to have a debate on politics here, just trying to share my intel on the ground.
DiavelLoco
10-13-20, 15:51
That is exactly the range that I have paid. Mostly 60-80 in Havana for beautiful young women but this chica is special. In Cienfuegos the rates are cheaper and I have paid 40-60. Do you know what is the street exchange rate for dollars to CUCs now?I've been hearing lately up to 1. 50, depending how good your blackmarket money changer is. 1. 30 is quite a fair deal. I don't keep CUC at all nowadays except to pay for gas and some loose change. Almost everything is in dollars nowadays. Some places (restaurants, spas etc) are also giving discounts if you pay in usd. Just so you understand the situation more.
Right now since there are no tourists on the ground people would be foolish to pay 100 $ for a Cuban girl except desperate guys of course. Prices for pussy go down everywhere on the planet and we are in charge not the girls so no need to pay stupid prices like 5 months salary for a shag.That's right! That's exactly what I have been saying for the longest time!
I've been hearing lately up to 1. 50, depending how good your blackmarket money changer is. 1. 30 is quite a fair deal. I don't keep CUC at all nowadays except to pay for gas and some loose change. Almost everything is in dollars nowadays. Some places (restaurants, spas etc) are also giving discounts if you pay in usd. Just so you understand the situation more.Are the girls asking for USD?
Not sure about that. No announcement from the cuban gov yet. To be honest, I doubt it. I have friends living here that left Cuba few months ago still struggling to come back with numerous rejections from the ministry of interior.Havana open time Americans by end of November?
Havana open time Americans by end of November?November 4th. American Airlines resumes flights to Havana.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/miami.cbslocal.com/2020/10/13/american-airlines-to-resume-scheduled-service-to-cuba-from-miami/amp/
Havana open time Americans by end of November?I'll be down on the 13th! Woohoo!
DiavelLoco
10-14-20, 15:46
Are the girls asking for USD?No, they don't ask for usd but I have very little cuc to give away. They get so happy when you pay them in usd.
DiavelLoco
10-14-20, 15:47
Havana open time Americans by end of November?American airlines already started selling tickets 4 November onwards. I'm sure you can catch that one.
American airlines already started selling tickets 4 November onwards. I'm sure you can catch that one.Can't wait, 4 weeks. Rented a casa near the university on Neptuno. Wonder if I'll be the Guinea pig or if someone will be on the ground before me. I'll be happy to report!
AmoMedellin
10-15-20, 11:14
Hey!
Can you buy viagra, cialis, levitra in Habana? Or other places in Cuba.
Anyone has experience of that?
Even if quality might change a lot of course.
In Colombia there are like 30-50 brands of sildenafil citrate but Cialis, nogenerics as I know.
I found good brand and had me send a package of Cialis from India to Colombia.
I booked an Airbnb for November 13th, but the owner let me know that they have not been told that they can operate yet. Wonder if it will only be hotels for a month or so.
AmorPorFavor
10-15-20, 22:43
Hey!
Can you buy viagra, cialis, levitra in Habana? Or other places in Cuba.
Anyone has experience of that?
Even if quality might change a lot of course.
In Colombia there are like 30-50 brands of sildenafil citrate but Cialis, nogenerics as I know.
I found good brand and had me send a package of Cialis from India to Colombia.Last Nov I found a pharmacy in old town and was able to buy non generic viagra manufactured in Europe for 1 cuc per 5 MG pill. I bought 50 of them. Its a couple of blocks form the Bodegita del Medio. On an earlier trip I was able to get a similar deal from another pharmacy in old town. Just find one and go in and ask, its no problem.
Hey!
Can you buy viagra, cialis, levitra in Habana? Or other places in Cuba.
Anyone has experience of that?
Even if quality might change a lot of course.
In Colombia there are like 30-50 brands of sildenafil citrate but Cialis, nogenerics as I know.
I found good brand and had me send a package of Cialis from India to Colombia.It's definitely on the island, someone came up to are taxi while getting gas, 10 pk of generic Blue pills 9 $. I think he wanted 15 $turns out they were really good, wish I got a few packs! Hope this helps a bit!
AmoMedellin
10-16-20, 04:49
Last Nov I found a pharmacy in old town and was able to buy non generic viagra manufactured in Europe for 1 cuc per 5 MG pill. I bought 50 of them. Its a couple of blocks form the Bodegita del Medio. On an earlier trip I was able to get a similar deal from another pharmacy in old town. Just find one and go in and ask, its no problem.You must mean 50 MG or 100 MG for 1 pill for 1 CuC?
Muzungufotsy
10-16-20, 07:21
If you really have a 10 in your bed you don't need any pill. One loser said he has supermodel in his bed and then he needs viagra to get it hard. Same kind of guy who says he pays 100 cuc for a shag. Pathetic indeed.
Never needed any pill with a Cuban girl the way she moves with me my dick is always hard without problem. At the end I give her 20 and she doesn't complain because she s satisfied and had a good time.
DiavelLoco
10-16-20, 15:09
I booked an Airbnb for November 13th, but the owner let me know that they have not been told that they can operate yet. Wonder if it will only be hotels for a month or so.They are open for sure. I have been to a few for the past few months for a short time use. I am sure if you look hard enough, you will find some that are willing to take your booking.
They are open for sure. I have been to a few for the past few months for a short time use. I am sure if you look hard enough, you will find some that are willing to take your booking.Casas particulares can be "open", airlines can accept bookings, but until the country is open why would anyone book anything if you're outside the country.
My understanding, and correct me if you have better information, is that Canadians can go to a few of the resort areas but only to these areas, and can't go off the "island" (or key basically). Workers come in for 2 or 3 week shifts. No trips to Havana, no trips anywhere. US citizens can't go to these resorts as they are all owned or partially owned by the Cuban gov't so not allowed for Americans.
But so far no incoming tourists allowed anywhere else. That's my understanding. So Havana?
As I say, correct me if I'm wrong.
AmorPorFavor
10-16-20, 18:00
You must mean 50 MG or 100 MG for 1 pill for 1 CuC?Right. 50's for 1 cuc each and they are good quality too.
AmorPorFavor
10-16-20, 20:08
Yes I do always try to negotiate the girls down in price. Sometimes they quickly agree and sometimes they won't budge. If they are hot enough and I am horney enough and the amount is reasonable, I will just agree to their price if the are holding firm. I will walk away sometimes if its not within reason. But again, in Cuba the amount that we are talking about is usually 20 cuc which is nothing and I want them to be happy with the deal to get their best effort and repeats if I like it.
Case in point. On my last trip I was staying in a casa in old town. On the doorstoop of the building next to mine 2 girls would sit out some nights and sell Vietnamese beers out of a cooler for cheap. One was hot and one was not. One night at this casa on my way back for the night I stopped and chatted them up and bought a beer. I only had big bills and they didn't have change so the hot one says I'll come up to your place and get the money (I had small bills there). Now she was a solid 9, light skinned, petite, slim, pretty face but small tits. With a decent set of boobs she's a 10. In my apartment we somehow get to negotiating, not sure if I started it or her cause I was already a little drunk. She wanted 80 and I said 60. She would not budge. I was tired and had fucked my brains out the night before with a regular chica so I let her walk. The point is that she was willing to walk away from the 60 offer.
The next night a pedicab driver I took a ride from during the day who had shown me pics of some hot chicas said he would bring a few of them by for me to pick from. He showed up with 3 girls but they were not the ones I had picked out from his phone photos and I didn't like them. I sent them all away and went over to the hot chica selling the beer who was right there and said vamos arriba. Once again I said 60 and she said no so I agreed. She looked amazing when she took her clothes off with very sexy lingerie on. She had a tight pussy, fucked and sucked real good and we had excellent hot sex. Also got a nice massage. She stayed about 1. 5 hours. So 80 cuc was her price which at the time cost me $80 and she was sticking to it and I have no regrets, it was worth every cuc.
Casas particulares can be "open", airlines can accept bookings, but until the country is open why would anyone book anything if you're outside the country.
My understanding, and correct me if you have better information, is that Canadians can go to a few of the resort areas but only to these areas, and can't go off the "island" (or key basically). Workers come in for 2 or 3 week shifts. No trips to Havana, no trips anywhere. US citizens can't go to these resorts as they are all owned or partially owned by the Cuban gov't so not allowed for Americans.
But so far no incoming tourists allowed anywhere else. That's my understanding. So Havana?
As I say, correct me if I'm wrong.AirBnB owner told me there is a meeting today that is being decided on if when Havana airport opens on November 4th if it will be for all including Americans, and if private Casas can operate starting November 4th (legally). We should know in a few hours.
AmorPorFavor
10-17-20, 03:15
AirBnB owner told me there is a meeting today that is being decided on if when Havana airport opens on November 4th if it will be for all including Americans, and if private Casas can operate starting November 4th (legally). We should know in a few hours.Hey SmotPoker, be real careful about PotSmoking in Cuba. Its a big no go. I bring lots of edibles. Its legal in CA where I live. Anybody have any input on this.
Hey SmotPoker, be real careful about PotSmoking in Cuba. Its a big no go. I bring lots of edibles. Its legal in CA where I live. Anybody have any input on this.Don't try to go to Cuba with anything. Don't take your edibles across any borders.
AirBnB owner told me there is a meeting today that is being decided on if when Havana airport opens on November 4th if it will be for all including Americans, and if private Casas can operate starting November 4th (legally). We should know in a few hours.I'm in regular contact with several casa owners and haven't heard this. I wouldn't go by anything a casa owner says who you never have met and trust. They will tell you multiple girls are no problem and when you arrive tell you to register all guests.
I need to explain casa etiquette: Running multiple girls daily will usually get you snitched on by the neighbors. My advise is if you have to do this is to get yourself a day regular and move a night girl in quickly for a few hours later at night. With covid 19 Cuban authorities will be paying attention.
I've had surprise randoms checks by the authorities and I have regulars. Most girls won't want their names in the books. Understand casa owners can have their casas seized if they aren't following the check in regulations.
Be discreet and respectful and the owner will respect you.
Hey,
Haven't posted in a while, here's is the latest info from Mesa Redonda (daily semi-official program) Today they had both the minister of transportation and the minister of tourism on to report on the up to minute news about Cuba and its opening to foreigners.
It's in Español (Spanish) I know some of you speak the lingo so you'll benefit from this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRGAH4E7zuQ
Mondo.
Hey SmotPoker, be real careful about PotSmoking in Cuba. Its a big no go. I bring lots of edibles. Its legal in CA where I live. Anybody have any input on this.Nope! Do not bring edibles with THC, CBD. If the Cuban authorities catch you with edibles you are truly screwed.
Hey,
Haven't posted in a while, here's is the latest info from Mesa Redonda (daily semi-official program) Today they had both the minister of transportation and the minister of tourism on to report on the up to minute news about Cuba and its opening to foreigners.
It's in Espaol (Spanish) I know some of you speak the lingo so you'll benefit from this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRGAH4E7zuQ
Mondo.I can only understand a few words, but I did translate a few comments below the video, here they are.
1) What they have to do is OPEN THE JOS MART AIRPORT NOW.
2) I believe that utds are extraterrestrials. It is not understood that everything is being followed up. Giving the best quality. People who have no notion what quality is. In short they speak garbage. RANDI is so guataca. He has no tax questions. Everything is fine. They put the international situation to lessen what happens in Cuba. 60 years and without difference.
3) Cuba for January.
4) The Airport will not open until January.
5) DO NOT TRAVEL TO Cuba.
6) When we arrive You deliver the questionnaire that you have to fill out. They do the PCR and from there to the house the quarantine rs at home.
7) Cubans who arrive in our country pass the Quarantine and PSR tests, by the way, free for all.
8) The borders are open except Havana and Cowho and S Spiritus.
9) I can't travel on the American airlines to Cuba, hey that's hard.
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My takeaway is that the airports will open in January, you may be quarantined, tested. I'm not even sure if tourist can enter Havana, but anyway, there is a few comments translated. I would like to hear what you guys have to say.
Thank you Mondo
Same kind of guy who says he pays 100 cuc for a shag. Pathetic indeed.
Never needed any pill with a Cuban girl the way she moves with me my dick is always hard without problem. At the end I give her 20 and she doesn't complain because she s satisfied and had a good time.Your words are so wise!
Nope! Do not bring edibles with THC, CBD. If the Cuban authorities catch you with edibles you are truly screwed.As much as I like to smoke. I wouldn't dare take or try to get any drugs in Cuba.
JohnReter335
10-17-20, 22:54
As much as I like to smoke. I wouldn't dare take or try to get any drugs in Cuba.Yeah and it's good for you.
They are open for sure. I have been to a few for the past few months for a short time use. I am sure if you look hard enough, you will find some that are willing to take your booking.So frustrating trying to hear news about Havana officially opening? And if Americans will be allowed to visit and if we can stay in private casas? Anyone on the ground there since curfew was lifted?
Hey,
Thought I post about the prices for upcoming flights from the East coast to Cuba. I guess with all the family trips from Cuban@s who have not been able to travel since the C-19 started is the main culprit.
For those who live on the West coast there is an alternative going thru Panama City, I've already booked my trip this way and it turns out to be quite less expensive than going round trip from Miami!
Mondo.
Hey,
Thought I post about the prices for upcoming flights from the East coast to Cuba. I guess with all the family trips from Cuban@s who have not been able to travel since the C-19 started is the main culprit.
For those who live on the West coast there is an alternative going thru Panama City, I've already booked my trip this way and it turns out to be quite less expensive than going round trip from Miami!
Mondo.With those prices, looking like early / mid December makes more sense for planning trip.
So frustrating trying to hear news about Havana officially opening? And if Americans will be allowed to visit and if we can stay in private casas? Anyone on the ground there since curfew was lifted?News today was that Cuba was opening, but not including Havana. I'm going to search for more info on that.
News today was that Cuba was opening, but not including Havana. I'm going to search for more info on that.So. Did my search. What it looks like is that they are opening "resorts" all over Cuba, except in Havana. This will have a big impact for Canadians and some Europeans, but not so much for Americans as Americans generally cannot go to these resorts, at least directly. But the charter flights out of Toronto, Montreal, etc. Will be filling the skies shortly. A lot of pent up demand for those all inclusive one week getaways to Cuba.
What the articles did not say was if those tourists would be allowed to leave the resorts and resort areas (such as Varadero). These resorts, and there are hundreds of them, are mostly on keys or areas that can be isolated, as was the case when they were first built. For those that just want their week at the resort it makes no difference, except the optional bus tours to Havana won't be happening. But for anyone that wants to go into the cities, or mix with the people they may be out of luck.
DiavelLoco
10-27-20, 15:37
So. Did my search. What it looks like is that they are opening "resorts" all over Cuba, except in Havana. This will have a big impact for Canadians and some Europeans, but not so much for Americans as Americans generally cannot go to these resorts, at least directly. But the charter flights out of Toronto, Montreal, etc. Will be filling the skies shortly. A lot of pent up demand for those all inclusive one week getaways to Cuba.
What the articles did not say was if those tourists would be allowed to leave the resorts and resort areas (such as Varadero). These resorts, and there are hundreds of them, are mostly on keys or areas that can be isolated, as was the case when they were first built. For those that just want their week at the resort it makes no difference, except the optional bus tours to Havana won't be happening. But for anyone that wants to go into the cities, or mix with the people they may be out of luck.Havana is still closed at the moment but its just a matter of time. Probably one or two weeks away. From the islands / resorts area, you can leave the place anytime you want, after passing the negative PCR test which takes 2-3 days. Even the locals can go to these places now. They change regulations all the time and that's the latest.
So. Did my search. What it looks like is that they are opening "resorts" all over Cuba, except in Havana. This will have a big impact for Canadians and some Europeans, but not so much for Americans as Americans generally cannot go to these resorts, at least directly. But the charter flights out of Toronto, Montreal, etc. Will be filling the skies shortly. A lot of pent up demand for those all inclusive one week getaways to Cuba.
What the articles did not say was if those tourists would be allowed to leave the resorts and resort areas (such as Varadero). These resorts, and there are hundreds of them, are mostly on keys or areas that can be isolated, as was the case when they were first built. For those that just want their week at the resort it makes no difference, except the optional bus tours to Havana won't be happening. But for anyone that wants to go into the cities, or mix with the people they may be out of luck.That sounds about right. From what I understand, when tourists fly into Cuba, you will tested for covid at the airport. If you test negative, you will then be placed on a bus and bussed directly to the resort and dropped off. You will be confined to the resort for the duration of your "vacation". Havana and the rest of Cuba is off limits.
I don't think there is a problem with Americans visiting Cuba, at least not with the Cubans, it's the US government giving the Americans grief about visiting Cuba.
For the local Cubans, their movements around the country has been severely curtailed as well. For example, my regular chica lives down in the province of Ciego de Avila. Everyone in that province are confined to that province, they cannot leave. So for now, she can't come to Havana. I'll be glad when all this shit is over.
Gringo Trooper
10-28-20, 03:57
So frustrating trying to hear news about Havana officially opening? And if Americans will be allowed to visit and if we can stay in private casas? Anyone on the ground there since curfew was lifted?I just read in the news that the government of Cuba is closing all Western Unions. I hope I'm wrong, but that's terrible for the country.
I just read in the news that the government of Cuba is closing all Western Unions. I hope I'm wrong, but that's terrible for the country.May be a good thing. Allegedly the Cuban government is keeping portions of the money, that people are sending to their families. For example, the USD to CUC is $1 = 1. 70 CUC, if you send $100 to someone down there, they should get 170 CUC, well the government is only giving them 100 CUC, and keeping the other 70 for themselves. Very messed up!
DiavelLoco
10-28-20, 15:29
May be a good thing. Allegedly the Cuban government is keeping portions of the money, that people are sending to their families. For example, the USD to CUC is $1 = 1. 70 CUC, if you send $100 to someone down there, they should get 170 CUC, well the government is only giving them 100 CUC, and keeping the other 70 for themselves. Very messed up!USD1=CUC1. 50 nowadays in the black market. The official exchange rate is USD1=CUC1 done at the bank, cadeca or money transfers for businesses.
USD1=CUC1. 50 nowadays in the black market. The official exchange rate is USD1=CUC1 done at the bank, cadeca or money transfers for businesses.Ok, Simon was telling me 1 USD= 1. 70 CUC, maybe through the people we deal with on the streets.
I just read in the news that the government of Cuba is closing all Western Unions. I hope I'm wrong, but that's terrible for the country.Western Union has been closed for awhile now outside of Havana. So lately, I've been recharging my girls phone once a month and she can trade out phone credits to her friends and family for food or cash. But now, the Cuban government is cheating them out of their phone recharges. It's getting crazy down in Cuba.
May be a good thing. Allegedly the Cuban government is keeping portions of the money, that people are sending to their families. For example, the USD to CUC is $1 = 1. 70 CUC, if you send $100 to someone down there, they should get 170 CUC, well the government is only giving them 100 CUC, and keeping the other 70 for themselves. Very messed up!Don't think it quite works that way. The black market (street) exchanges at whatever rate is determined on the black market. The government exchanges at the official rate. The only way they would get the black market rate would be to sell their dollars on the black market. Doubt they are doing that because they need the dollars to pay for imports. Getting CUC's would not help the government. They need dollars. They can print all the CUC's they want, but can't (as far as we know) print dollars. There is no trade in CUC's on the world market, so outside of Cuba they are useless.
There is a possibility though that the street market is really an alternative market being exploited by the government. They can buy dollars for whatever they have to pay, since they print CUC's. Since they can print CUC's there is no real cost to them. Just that over time it creates inflation and so they have to pay more and more for the limited dollars.
USD1=CUC1. 50 nowadays in the black market. The official exchange rate is USD1=CUC1 done at the bank, cadeca or money transfers for businesses.The black market is the black market. There are no official rates. Just spot market rates. Many avenues where the $$$ will end up at. Some legal and some illegal.
The official rates are used by official banks and financial companies.
GeneHickman
10-29-20, 13:03
Don't think it quite works that way. The black market (street) exchanges at whatever rate is determined on the black market. The government exchanges at the official rate. The only way they would get the black market rate would be to sell their dollars on the black market. Doubt they are doing that because they need the dollars to pay for imports. Getting CUC's would not help the government. They need dollars. They can print all the CUC's they want, but can't (as far as we know) print dollars. There is no trade in CUC's on the world market, so outside of Cuba they are useless.
There is a possibility though that the street market is really an alternative market being exploited by the government. They can buy dollars for whatever they have to pay, since they print CUC's. Since they can print CUC's there is no real cost to them. Just that over time it creates inflation and so they have to pay more and more for the limited dollars.Do the chicas accept straight USD cash or do they insist on CUCs? I am unclear how all this works having nver been to Cuba, but what to locals do with the cucs once they earn it from you?
Sounds as though CUCs are the officially gov't sanctioned tender there. But I am sure actual USDs are more valuable. The black market to me just speaks to the economic strife they are in right now. But as we know communist dictatorships are answerable to noone.
Do the chicas accept straight USD cash or do they insist on CUCs? I am unclear how all this works having nver been to Cuba, but what to locals do with the cucs once they earn it from you?
Sounds as though CUCs are the officially gov't sanctioned tender there. But I am sure actual USDs are more valuable. The black market to me just speaks to the economic strife they are in right now. But as we know communist dictatorships are answerable to noone.There are two official currencies, the CUC and the moneda nacional, the normal pesos (approximately 26 pesos to one CUC). CUC's were set up originally to accommodate the tourism industry, but have evolved to be just a second currency, and one that I hear is being eliminated. But not immediately. CUC's (convertible pesos) were designed to be always worth $1 US, and since they are not traded on any market outside of Cuba the government simply sets that as the value. So when I go with Canadian dollars I get the US / Canada exchange rate on my Canadian, except in CUCs. Less a small conversion fee around 1. 5%. If I took American dollars they charged an additional "penalty" of 10%, even though the CUC is equal to 1 US dollar (for calculation purposes).
US dollars were never in circulation in the past. You could not buy anything with them (generally speaking) and could only exchange them at official places (Cadecas / banks). So for the Cuban people they had to go to the bank or cadeca, line up, and exchange any dollars they received for either CUC's or regular pesos. All of that seems to be changing from what I am reading here. Dollars may be circulating as a useable currency, which then encourages a black market and prices in dollars versus either form of pesos.
All of the national goods, subsidized food, etc. Were only payable in normal pesos in the past. And peoples pay was in pesos, etc. You could not pay for a lot of things with CUC's or dollars. Only in regular pesos. That is if you were a national.
CUCs were just a way for the Cuban government to get foreign currency, which they need. For every dollar, Euro, Canadian dollar, that came in to the country they issued 1 CUC per USD equivalent. Tourists would then spend these CUC's, and eventually Cuban people could pretty much spend them and use them as well. So I think the current push is just an extension of that. The government is desperate for foreign exchange, so they are printing up more CUCs and probably actively participating in the black market buying dollars (dollars that come into the country directly). This creates inflation pretty quickly, so in Cuba, and only in Cuba, the value of the CUC versus the black market dollars is dropping. Hence the numbers you are seeing. And the trick they have already said they are going to do is eliminate the CUC, and force people back to the peso, and the exchange rate will be set by the government. At around 25 pesos per CUC. Not sure of the exact number. And since they set most prices for everything. In pesos. They get their money back. And then they can crack down on the use of the USD.
Rebel Monger
10-30-20, 04:57
There are two official currencies, the CUC and the moneda nacional, the normal pesos (approximately 26 pesos to one CUC). CUC's were set up originally to accommodate the tourism industry, but have evolved to be just a second currency, and one that I hear is being eliminated. But not immediately. CUC's (convertible pesos) were designed to be always worth $1 US, and since they are not traded on any market outside of Cuba the government simply sets that as the value. So when I go with Canadian dollars I get the US / Canada exchange rate on my Canadian, except in CUCs. Less a small conversion fee around 1. 5%. If I took American dollars they charged an additional "penalty" of 10%, even though the CUC is equal to 1 US dollar (for calculation purposes).
US dollars were never in circulation in the past. You could not buy anything with them (generally speaking) and could only exchange them at official places (Cadecas / banks). So for the Cuban people they had to go to the bank or cadeca, line up, and exchange any dollars they received for either CUC's or regular pesos. All of that seems to be changing from what I am reading here. Dollars may be circulating as a useable currency, which then encourages a black market and prices in dollars versus either form of pesos.
All of the national goods, subsidized food, etc. Were only payable in normal pesos in the past. And peoples pay was in pesos, etc. You could not pay for a lot of things with CUC's or dollars. Only in regular pesos. That is if you were a national.
CUCs were just a way for the Cuban government to get foreign currency, which they need. For every dollar, Euro, Canadian dollar, that came in to the country they issued 1 CUC per USD equivalent. Tourists would then spend these CUC's, and eventually Cuban people could pretty much spend them and use them as well. So I think the current push is just an extension of that. The government is desperate for foreign exchange, so they are printing up more CUCs and probably actively participating in the black market buying dollars (dollars that come into the country directly). This creates inflation pretty quickly, so in Cuba, and only in Cuba, the value of the CUC versus the black market dollars is dropping. Hence the numbers you are seeing. And the trick they have already said they are going to do is eliminate the CUC, and force people back to the peso, and the exchange rate will be set by the government. At around 25 pesos per CUC. Not sure of the exact number. And since they set most prices for everything. In pesos. They get their money back. And then they can crack down on the use of the USD.Back in 1997 you could only pay with USD in the stores they had set up at the time. How do I know that? I went there at that time and used USD in the stores, as a matter of fact, I didn't exchanged any USD into CUP at all.
AmorPorFavor
10-31-20, 05:49
Back in 1997 you could only pay with USD in the stores they had set up at the time. How do I know that? I went there at that time and used USD in the stores, as a matter of fact, I didn't exchanged any USD into CUP at all.Yes those crafty Cubans have been collecting dollars all along. Now the government needs those dollars and they have opened up many stores selling luxury and now everyday goods that only take dollars. There goes their fake exchange rate. Our dollars will go even farther than before down there now.
My chica called last night and said that Havana, and the rest of Cuba is open for business!
My chica called last night and said that Havana, and the rest of Cuba is open for business!False. I just messaged my Airbnb owner and they have heard nothing. Last I saw was November 4th opening.
False. I just messaged my Airbnb owner and they have heard nothing. Last I saw was November 4th opening.OK but now it's Nov. 10th, not understanding what you meant, if that's what you heard then it is possible, and if I'm correct he knows a lot about Cuba, why dismiss what he said?
False. I just messaged my Airbnb owner and they have heard nothing. Last I saw was November 4th opening.Yep, you are correct, Havana is not open yet, possibly this weekend.
False. I just messaged my Airbnb owner and they have heard nothing. Last I saw was November 4th opening.Okay, I guess you guys just think I sit around pulling shit out of my ass. I post here to help with useful knowledge that may help you. My girl, who lives in Cuba, called me a couple days ago and said they are opening up Cuba again for tourism. I have no reason whatsoever to doubt what she is telling me, I've known her for years.
Cuba is open.
https://ca.travelpulse.com/news/destinations/havana-airport-in-cuba-could-open-november-10.html#text=CAPA%2 C%20 the%20 Centre%20 for%20 Aviation, about%20 security%20 on%20 the%20 island.
Back in 1997 you could only pay with USD in the stores they had set up at the time. How do I know that? I went there at that time and used USD in the stores, as a matter of fact, I didn't exchanged any USD into CUP at all.This is correct. My first visit to Cuba in the late 90's, I used USD everywhere. I remember being shocked that this island that we (the US) were trying to isolate was actually using our currency. Almost as shocked at how there were so many hookers in your face in a place where prostitution was supposed to be illegal.
Hey,
Here is the info for the official opening of the airport in la Habana. This is an article from Cubadebate, the semi-official government media.
For those of you who are not Español fluent, do a Google translation to read the article.
In case you just want to know the opening date, it's Sunday November 15th.
Mondo.
http://www.cubadebate.cu/noticias/2020/11/10/aeropuerto-internacional-jose-marti-reiniciara-operaciones-el-proximo-15-de-noviembre/#. X6 uMvVB7 mdU.
The link below is all about the sanitary protocol that travelers go thru once they arrive in Cuba.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu9y6hj3p2I&feature=emb_logo
Aeropuerto Internacional Jos Mart reiniciar operaciones el prximo 15 de noviembre.
En este artculo: Aerolneas, Aeronutica, Aeropuerto Internacional Jos Mart, Coronavirus, COVID-19, Economa, Ministerio del Transporte (MITRANS), Salud, SARS-CoV-2, viajes, Virus.
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Aeropuerto Internacional Jos Mart. Foto: Aeropuertos.net.
El Instituto de Aeronutica Civil de Cuba comunica que se ha decidido reiniciar las operaciones areas comerciales, regulares why chrter en el Aeropuerto Internacional Jos Mart de La Habana, el prximo 15 de noviembre, a las 00 horas.
En tal sentido, se ha implementado el Protocolo para el Control Sanitario, dirigido al reinicio de las actividades aeronuticas, que ya se ha venido aplicando en el resto de LOS aeropuertos cubanos. El protocolo incluye entre otras medidas, la realizaciand de la prueba PCR en las distintas terminales internacionales a todos LOS viajeros que arriben al territorio nacional.
Segand lo dispuesto por las autoridades de Salud Pblica, a partir de esta fecha, se ha previsto el cobro de una tarifa sanitaria, con el objetivo de cubrir LOS costos de LOS protocolos implementados.
Cuba reitera su decisiand de garantizar la salud why la vida de sus nacionales, as como de LOS extranjeros que nos visiten, ratificndose como un destino seguro, cuyos resultados en materia de enfrentamiento a la pandemia son reconocidos a nivel internacional.
MjTravelLove
11-11-20, 08:18
This is correct. My first visit to Cuba in the late 90's, I used USD everywhere. I remember being shocked that this island that we (the US) were trying to isolate was actually using our currency. Almost as shocked at how there were so many hookers in your face in a place where prostitution was supposed to be illegal.Indeed, those were the days!
Hey,
Here is the info for the official opening of the airport in la Habana. This is an article from Cubadebate, the semi-official government media.
For those of you who are not Espaol fluent, do a Google translation to read the article.
In case you just want to know the opening date, it's Sunday November 15th.
Mondo.
http://www.cubadebate.cu/noticias/2020/11/10/aeropuerto-internacional-jose-marti-reiniciara-operaciones-el-proximo-15-de-noviembre/#. X6 uMvVB7 mdU.
The link below is all about the sanitary protocol that travelers go thru once they arrive in Cuba.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu9y6hj3p2I&feature=emb_logo
Aeropuerto Internacional Jos Mart reiniciar operaciones el prximo 15 de noviembre.
En este artculo: Aerolneas, Aeronutica, Aeropuerto Internacional Jos Mart, Coronavirus, COVID-19, Economa, Ministerio del Transporte (MITRANS), Salud, SARS-CoV-2, viajes, Virus.
10 noviembre 2020.
10.
Compartir.
173.
Aeropuerto Internacional Jos Mart. Foto: Aeropuertos.net.
El Instituto de Aeronutica Civil de Cuba comunica que se ha decidido reiniciar las operaciones areas comerciales, regulares why chrter en el Aeropuerto Internacional Jos Mart de La Habana, el prximo 15 de noviembre, a las 00 horas.
En tal sentido, se ha implementado el Protocolo para el Control Sanitario, dirigido al reinicio de las actividades aeronuticas, que ya se ha venido aplicando en el resto de LOS aeropuertos cubanos. El protocolo incluye entre otras medidas, la realizaciand de la prueba PCR en las distintas terminales internacionales a todos LOS viajeros que arriben al territorio nacional.
Segand lo dispuesto por las autoridades de Salud Pblica, a partir de esta fecha, se ha previsto el cobro de una tarifa sanitaria, con el objetivo de cubrir LOS costos de LOS protocolos implementados.
Cuba reitera su decisiand de garantizar la salud why la vida de sus nacionales, as como de LOS extranjeros que nos visiten, ratificndose como un destino seguro, cuyos resultados en materia de enfrentamiento a la pandemia son reconocidos a nivel internacional.Like I said, this weekend!
Muzungufotsy
11-11-20, 12:50
Absolutely no flights to Cuba before 15th of November earliest.
OK but now it's Nov. 10th, not understanding what you meant, if that's what you heard then it is possible, and if I'm correct he knows a lot about Cuba, why dismiss what he said?I meant January 4th.
Western Union shutting down USA money transfers to Cuba.
November 22,2020 at 11:00 PM USA EST: The last opportunity to send money from the USA To Cuba via com, the WU mobile app, and local WU locations. *.
November 23,2020, at 6:00 PM Cuba Time: The deadline to pick up money at Western Union retail locations in Cuba. Please encourage your family members to pick up at Western Union retail agent locations in Cuba immediately.
https://www.westernunion.com/blog/a-letter-to-our-cuba-customers/?id=blog&src=social_WU_Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3l5GVKgHng_uwtzOvkYjqlefga3KgAG3DAeMOHD7N_bXGP_wAECMI-m2s
HarryDubois
11-21-20, 14:45
I have read that the airport reopened on November 15.
How is that going? Are Canadians, Spaniard, Italians etc pouring in?
Capichon2010
11-22-20, 01:32
Is it true that travellers will have to isolated in their hotels or rental houses for 5 days until a second PCR test is done? And is it true that a doctor comes to your place to check on you every day?
HarryDubois
11-23-20, 01:53
According to this website.
https://www.traveloffpath.com/cuba-covid-19-entry-requirements-travelers-need-to-know/
As of November 15 Cuba is totally back to normal except:
Take a free COVID test upon arrival.
Pay $30 for health insurance.
Quarantine in your hotel or casa particular for approximately 24 hours for test results.
Wear a mask in public.
So what is actually happening in Havana? Are loads of tourists swarming back in? Is no one arriving as yet? What about bars, clubs, nightlife?
Also, what about currency? Have US dollars replaced the CUC? Should I bring in dollars in cash and shop with that? Or are only US dollar credit cards accepted?
WHAT ABOUT GIRLS! Due to the financial crisis, are the police going to allow unlimited prostitution like in the Special Period of the late 1990's or is it still discouraged as was the case a year ago?
According to this website.
https://www.traveloffpath.com/cuba-covid-19-entry-requirements-travelers-need-to-know/
As of November 15 Cuba is totally back to normal except:
Take a free COVID test upon arrival.
Pay $30 for health insurance.
Quarantine in your hotel or casa particular for approximately 24 hours for test results.
Wear a mask in public.
So what is actually happening in Havana? Are loads of tourists swarming back in? Is no one arriving as yet? What about bars, clubs, nightlife?
Also, what about currency? Have US dollars replaced the CUC? Should I bring in dollars in cash and shop with that? Or are only US dollar credit cards accepted?
WHAT ABOUT GIRLS! Due to the financial crisis, are the police going to allow unlimited prostitution like in the Special Period of the late 1990's or is it still discouraged as was the case a year ago?I would be very careful about entering Cuba. Be sure to bring some food, and gasolina. As much as I would love to be there right now, the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. Western Union is no longer a life line. I hope the Cuban people can wake up.
HarryDubois
11-24-20, 05:00
I would be very careful about entering Cuba. Be sure to bring some food, and gasolina. As much as I would love to be there right now, the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. Western Union is no longer a life line. I hope the Cuban people can wake up.However I thought that if you are bringing dollars you could buy anything.
However I thought that if you are bringing dollars you could buy anything.Yes, USD is accepted just about everywhere in Cuba now. The problem is, Cuba is having shortages of just about everything, food, beer, gasoline, diesel, soap, you name it. I was in Cuba March of this year, just before the lockdowns, and it was hard to find descent food and drink even then. Cuba relies heavily on Venezuela for their imports, and of course Venezuela is being blockaded by the US. My favorite chica keeps me posted on the situation, and she's saying it's still bad in Cuba, extreme shortages out in the provinces.
Havana was basically dead because there was a very limited supply of fuel. Many of the chicas had went back home out in the provinces. To be honest, I couldn't wait to get the hell out of there last time I was in Cuba. Every other time I've been to Cuba, I wanted to stay longer, but not the last trip.
Hope this helps.
Be sure to bring some food, and gasolina.Bringing some food might be easy, but how in the hell can I bring gasolina?
Asking for a friend.
Bringing some food might be easy, but how in the hell can I bring gasolina?
Asking for a friend.Hahaha, 3 oz. Travel bottles in a zip lock baggie.
HarryDubois
11-25-20, 01:55
Yes, USD is accepted just about everywhere in Cuba now. The problem is, Cuba is having shortages of just about everything, food, beer, gasoline, diesel, soap, you name it. I was in Cuba March of this year, just before the lockdowns, and it was hard to find descent food and drink even then. Cuba relies heavily on Venezuela for their imports, and of course Venezuela is being blockaded by the US. My favorite chica keeps me posted on the situation, and she's saying it's still bad in Cuba, extreme shortages out in the provinces.
Havana was basically dead because there was a very limited supply of fuel. Many of the chicas had went back home out in the provinces. To be honest, I couldn't wait to get the hell out of there last time I was in Cuba. Every other time I've been to Cuba, I wanted to stay longer, but not the last trip.
Hope this helps.I was actually planning on going to the "source" so to speak and staying in Holguin. I have read that the lightest skinned Cubans, which is my preference, are in that city and it is poor, in the east, therefore it may not take too much to impress the ladies there.
However even with dollars, and going to special dollars stores, you cannot buy anything? I'm very surprised. I know that Cuban government is desperate for dollars. I would think that they would be able to pull together whatever food is remaining and put it in the dollar stores.
And Western Union just closed in Cuba; the only source of dollars could be tourists if any are coming.
I was actually planning on going to the "source" so to speak and staying in Holguin. I have read that the lightest skinned Cubans, which is my preference, are in that city and it is poor, in the east, therefore it may not take too much to impress the ladies there.
However even with dollars, and going to special dollars stores, you cannot buy anything? I'm very surprised. I know that Cuban government is desperate for dollars. I would think that they would be able to pull together whatever food is remaining and put it in the dollar stores.
And Western Union just closed in Cuba; the only source of dollars could be tourists if any are coming.Been to Cuba a few times. Not sure where the special dollars stores exist. But in any case even at the best of times in recent years no amount of dollars or anything else can make something appear when it isn't there. And as for food. Don't even go there. If you think the government is going to put "what food is remaining" in special stores for tourists, well. I don't know what to say.
And as for source of dollars. Over 50% was from Canadian tourists staying at all inclusives and other resorts. It has been over 1 million per year tourists from Canada. But the vast majority of these visitors are in the 10 or so resort areas and most never see any real Cuba. But they are the major source of foreign exchange for Cuba. And Covid has thrown a wrench into that in a big way.
HarryDubois
11-25-20, 04:48
Over 50% was from Canadian tourists staying at all inclusives and other resorts. It has been over 1 million per year tourists from Canada. But the vast majority of these visitors are in the 10 or so resort areas and most never see any real Cuba. But they are the major source of foreign exchange for Cuba. And Covid has thrown a wrench into that in a big way.So you're saying that outside of the all inclusive resorts, the shops and restaurants may be empty, regardless of whether you have CUC, dollars, euros or gold bars?
In August the news media was reporting on the opening of dollar only stores:
To make up for the shortfall in dollars, the government took a step it would probably have avoided under normal circumstances and turned 72 of the nearly 5,000 state-run shops in Cuba into "dollar stores".
When he emerged from one of them, Benito Morejóand struggled to push his cart, weighed down with meat, cheese, cleaning products and personal hygiene items. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-53580376.
So I had the impression that if I land with a wallet full of dollars I should be doing well. Especially now that Western Union has shut down, there would seem to be no way for dollars to reach Cuba except in the wallets of foreign tourists, making the government even more desperate to stock stores with things which tourists will buy. (I have dual US / Israeli citizenship and I would travel on an Israeli passport. I think that will make it easier for me to visit Cuba and bring dollars, either in cash or an Israeli credit card.).
So you're saying that outside of the all inclusive resorts, the shops and restaurants may be empty, regardless of whether you have CUC, dollars, euros or gold bars?
Cuba and bring dollars, either in cash or an Israeli credit card.).It doesn't matter what kind of Passport you have, Cuba will let anybody in who has any dineros. Whatever you watched on TV, is a lie.
The hard cold truth about Cuba is, there is NOTHING there, except pigs, chickens and sugar cane. Maybe a patch of Tobacco here and there.
This video is pretty close the state of affairs in Cuba. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RjRqS5vl-Q.
HarryDubois
11-25-20, 14:46
This video is pretty close the state of affairs in Cuba. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RjRqS5vl-Q.However I thought that there were restaurants which accepted CUC and had good food; at least before COVID.
DiavelLoco
11-25-20, 15:32
Hello folks. No intention to start a debate here with anyone. Just to clear up on few things mentioned regarding Cuba. FYI, I have been living here in Cuba for 2 and a half years now. I have my family and kids here too with me. My family and I are all happy here. Probably the stories of struggles are from the point of view of the locals. As a foreigner here in havana, our quality of life is wonderful. No way can I have 2 helpers at home and a driver for my wife, back in my own country. Yes its true that sometimes you have difficulties finding eggs and other stuff. Did we die in hunger? No we didn't. Why is that? Because with money, you can find almost all the basic things you need from the "left" as how the say it here. Do I make lines to go to the shops? Never, because I have my helpers and driver to do it for me.
BTW we had a party at home last weekend for 30 adults and 18 kids. There were champagne, nice wines, gin tonics, rums, beers, great meat from Argentina for bbq and abundance of other food for everyone. Just like anywhere else in the world. We even hired 3 waiters and a bartender so that hosting will be easier for me and my family. What I'm tryin to say here is don't believe all the info that you gather from all your sources. Yes, this country has its own problems and never-ending issues. But not having gas for the car and no food at all is just nonsense.
I have also another example to share. Probably 2 months ago, I bumped into ana de armas and ben afleck somewhere in miramar. This was during havana's toque de queda. These 2 celebrities rather spend months of quarantine here in Cuba than any other places in the world. Sounds crazy? I don't think so, because they have money and they know the right people to have a pleasant time here despite all the madness happening in the world.
Hello folks. No intention to start a debate here with anyone. Just to clear up on few things mentioned regarding Cuba. FYI, I have been living here in Cuba for 2 and a half years now. I have my family and kids here too with me. My family and I are all happy here. Probably the stories of struggles are from the point of view of the locals. As a foreigner here in havana, our quality of life is wonderful. No way can I have 2 helpers at home and a driver for my wife, back in my own country. Yes its true that sometimes you have difficulties finding eggs and other stuff. Did we die in hunger? No we didn't. Why is that? Because with money, you can find almost all the basic things you need from the "left" as how the say it here. Do I make lines to go to the shops? Never, because I have my helpers and driver to do it for me.
BTW we had a party at home last weekend for 30 adults and 18 kids. There were champagne, nice wines, gin tonics, rums, beers, great meat from Argentina for bbq and abundance of other food for everyone. Just like anywhere else in the world. We even hired 3 waiters and a bartender so that hosting will be easier for me and my family. What I'm tryin to say here is don't believe all the info that you gather from all your sources. Yes, this country has its own problems and never-ending issues. But not having gas for the car and no food at all is just nonsense.
I have also another example to share. Probably 2 months ago, I bumped into ana de armas and ben afleck somewhere in miramar. This was during havana's toque de queda. These 2 celebrities rather spend months of quarantine here in Cuba than any other places in the world. Sounds crazy? I don't think so, because they have money and they know the right people to have a pleasant time here despite all the madness happening in the world.OK. I stand corrected. My experience is a couple of years back, and yes, there were paladars where you could use CUC and sometimes get good meals, but I didn't see much on the shelves in any of the stores where you could buy stuff. Groceries, etc.
As for use of dollars and what you can buy. I'll take your word for it as a resident. My experience as a lone "tourist" staying in casas particulares was not that of someone with connections. But I was not a typical tourist staying in resorts and I found it very difficult to find anything much. Of course the stores where they sell the rationed food supplies are off limits, and the few cash stores I went in did not have any real selection. And this was in good times.
Hello folks. No intention to start a debate here with anyone. Just to clear up on few things mentioned regarding Cuba. FYI, I have been living here in Cuba for 2 and a half years now. I have my family and kids here too with me. My family and I are all happy here. Probably the stories of struggles are from the point of view of the locals. As a foreigner here in havana, our quality of life is wonderful. No way can I have 2 helpers at home and a driver for my wife, back in my own country. Yes its true that sometimes you have difficulties finding eggs and other stuff. Did we die in hunger? No we didn't. Why is that? Because with money, you can find almost all the basic things you need from the "left" as how the say it here.My hat is off to you DiavellLoco. Four or five years ago I even considered buying or leasing a house in Guanabo beach area. I thought it would be a perfect winter time getaway from the winters here in the States. But after looking into the legal aspects of doing that, it was off the table.
Back in the day (15 years ago), I worked for the University of Ghana in a joint research project with an American University. After about a year in West Africa, I came to love the life there. I had a pocket full of money, a University provided Toyota 4 x4 Land Cruiser, a place to stay in Accra. Life was good. By this time, I had become completely immersed in the local culture. Friends and family back home thought I had lost my everlasting mind! Ghana is almost the complete opposite of Cuba. In Ghana, the food is plentiful and fantastic! Best food I've ever had. But the living conditions in West Africa is harsh. Contrast this with Cuba, Cuba has beautiful architecture but the food is horrendous, (to me, maybe not others). And the weather is great. (in the winter) I ended up spending 8 years in Ghana, some of the best memories of my life. I still miss the food.
My experience in Cuba, 5 years ago it was a great place to visit, and then around 2018 things started to go downhill. FAST. I was there back in March of this year, and most of the stores in Havana were either closed, or had limited hours of operation, and if they did open, very limited supply of basically anything, a stark contrast to the good days of 2015 - 2016.
Thanks DiavelLoco for sharing your experiences with us.
BBQ in campo, small town outside of Ciego de Avila.
John Clayton
11-25-20, 19:35
...This video is pretty close the state of affairs in Cuba. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RjRqS5vl-Q.Great video; however, I don't think I would ever post a video of me getting hauled in over the tailgate of a truck like he did. Too embarassing. He looked like beached pilot whale.
Lucky Nuts
11-25-20, 22:59
Hello folks. No intention to start a debate here with anyone. Just to clear up on few things mentioned regarding Cuba. Awesome "on the ground" report Diave. Thanks so much. I think we all appreciate your posts and wish you would relay first hand experienes more often both the good and the bad. Many of us former visitors have found other places to enjoy the fruits but are often thinking about returning to Cuba at the right time. Not sure what makes the right time LOL. But your reports sure help give us a feel for the situation. One of these days I'm going to "just do it" again. It's been a few years now for me.
DiavelLoco
11-26-20, 14:38
OK. I stand corrected. My experience is a couple of years back, and yes, there were paladars where you could use CUC and sometimes get good meals, but I didn't see much on the shelves in any of the stores where you could buy stuff. Groceries, etc.
As for use of dollars and what you can buy. I'll take your word for it as a resident. My experience as a lone "tourist" staying in casas particulares was not that of someone with connections. But I was not a typical tourist staying in resorts and I found it very difficult to find anything much. Of course the stores where they sell the rationed food supplies are off limits, and the few cash stores I went in did not have any real selection. And this was in good times.I totally understand where you are coming from. Yes, it was during good times here in Cuba. Right now, I would say Cuba is at its lowest ebb. You won't believe me if I say this, I have more things at home right now than 2 years ago. Its hard to explain but it seems that more things are available in the blackmarket from the left during this hard covid period when Cuba was in lockdown. I am flying out next weekend for some fresh air and we were making list of things to buy to bring back to Cuba. I am shocked to see the list that we prepared during the last few days is not as long as it used to be when we were flying out of the country, every single month. Just to remind you again that our last trip outside Cuba was in March. I have made so many new contacts during the covid lockdown that I can survive living here without flying out of the country for the next couple of months. Strange but that is the reality for most of us foreigners who are well connected with the local cartels.
DiavelLoco
11-26-20, 14:58
I am more than happy to share my local knowledge with you guys especially on the paladars. The hunting part, you have to explore and find them yourself. Just remember that Cuba is working girl house. To me at least, all the girls are fidel's bitches. You know your way around, almost all of them are for the taking. Last week, I found this local florist nearby where I live. The girl selling flowers looked fuckable for me so I asked for her number. She is there every day selling flowers and I am sure that she is not a pro. Told her to let me know when she is free for me to have a cita and 40 cuc later, we are in a casa particular. My point is you don't have to go to the usual hunting ground. See any girl you like, ask them nicely for their number and make your move from there. Always remember that Cuba is never the same this month and few months back. The country is always changing all the time. Go with the flow and you will have a good time here. I might not be an expert in everything but I am certain I know enough to get by and to make your visit more meaningful.
Penetrador
11-26-20, 19:16
I am more than happy to share my local knowledge with you guys especially on the paladars. The hunting part, you have to explore and find them yourself. Just remember that Cuba is working girl house. To me at least, all the girls are fidel's bitches. You know your way around, almost all of them are for the taking. Last week, I found this local florist nearby where I live. The girl selling flowers looked fuckable for me so I asked for her number. She is there every day selling flowers and I am sure that she is not a pro. Told her to let me know when she is free for me to have a cita and 40 cuc later, we are in a casa particular. My point is you don't have to go to the usual hunting ground. See any girl you like, ask them nicely for their number and make your move from there. Always remember that Cuba is never the same this month and few months back. The country is always changing all the time. Go with the flow and you will have a good time here. I might not be an expert in everything but I am certain I know enough to get by and to make your visit more meaningful.Where are the White skin girls for sex like Ana de Armas? I wouldn't mind fucking a ***** escort / working girl that would look like Lily Estefan You know?
Lucky Nuts
11-27-20, 00:56
Where are the White skin girls for sex like Ana de Armas? I wouldn't mind fucking a ***** escort / working girl that would look like Lily Estefan You know?The cities with most blancas are located in inland Cuba. Away from the coast. I believe Holguin is probably considered the epicenter of white on isla Cuba. As you move further from there the ratio changes little by little. The problem with Holguin is how difficult the game is as the police have a iron grip on the place for some reason. I visited with like 8 or 10 apartment rentals to ask about working a deal of extra money to bring in a chica (guest fee) and all renters are deathly afraid of "the man". Chicas must be registered in their official book. Somebody told me the academy for training Cuba's policia is located in Holguin and that's why it's so hard ass there. So you would need good spanish skills and work the local scene to find a place to fuck any chica you find. For a few bucks someone would probably let you use a bedroom. That's how Cuba works you know.
I am more than happy to share my local knowledge with you guys especially on the paladars. The hunting part, you have to explore and find them yourself. Just remember that Cuba is working girl house. To me at least, all the girls are fidel's bitches. You know your way around, almost all of them are for the taking. Last week, I found this local florist nearby where I live. The girl selling flowers looked fuckable for me so I asked for her number. She is there every day selling flowers and I am sure that she is not a pro. Told her to let me know when she is free for me to have a cita and 40 cuc later, we are in a casa particular. My point is you don't have to go to the usual hunting ground. See any girl you like, ask them nicely for their number and make your move from there. Always remember that Cuba is never the same this month and few months back. The country is always changing all the time. Go with the flow and you will have a good time here. I might not be an expert in everything but I am certain I know enough to get by and to make your visit more meaningful.Exactly Diave that's the beautiful thing about Cuba. Money talks so well and everyone is so open-minded about ways to make a CUC. It's the only place I feel comfortable walking up to regular chicas like I'm their own age and asking to hang out together. Normally the answer is "si papi" LOL.
I guess what we'd like to know is if a guy goes with "dollars, euros, or gold bars" (that IS a funny line!) could we find a place to buy beer? If I can't buy beer easily I'm not going. And could we find good paladars so we wouldn't come back home 5 or 10 pounds lighter than we arrived? I can figure out the rest thanks LOL.
HarryDubois
11-27-20, 06:36
One thing which I am wondering about is, considering the extreme economic crisis in Cuba, will the police stop bothering foreign men dating Cuban girls? Especially with Western Union now shut down, will they decide that economics overrules communist morality? After all, I have a feeling that the majority of foreign visitors are single men who are not only looking for a nice beach. Cuba's main tourist attraction is a different type of natural beauty.
And then the main question is, if I am a first time tourist coming to Cuba for a month, with little knowledge of Spanish and no connections to anyone in the black market, will I be able to buy normal, good food, alcohol, hygiene products, medications (Viagra, Tylenol) etc. with a non-American dollar credit card? (I have Israeli credit cards.)
DiavelLoco
11-27-20, 15:54
The cities with most blancas are located in inland Cuba. Away from the coast. I believe Holguin is probably considered the epicenter of white on isla Cuba. As you move further from there the ratio changes little by little. The problem with Holguin is how difficult the game is as the police have a iron grip on the place for some reason. I visited with like 8 or 10 apartment rentals to ask about working a deal of extra money to bring in a chica (guest fee) and all renters are deathly afraid of "the man". Chicas must be registered in their official book. Somebody told me the academy for training Cuba's policia is located in Holguin and that's why it's so hard ass there. So you would need good spanish skills and work the local scene to find a place to fuck any chica you find. For a few bucks someone would probably let you use a bedroom. That's how Cuba works you know.
Exactly Diave that's the beautiful thing about Cuba. Money talks so well and everyone is so open-minded about ways to make a CUC. It's the only place I feel comfortable walking up to regular chicas like I'm their own age and asking to hang out together. Normally the answer is "si papi" LOL.
I guess what we'd like to know is if a guy goes with "dollars, euros, or gold bars" (that IS a funny line!) could we find a place to buy beer? If I can't buy beer easily I'm not going. And could we find good paladars so we wouldn't come back home 5 or 10 pounds lighter than we arrived? I can figure out the rest thanks LOL.I promise you that you will be able to find several if not many good paladars in havana that also sell beers. Take my word for it, if not, I will invite you for some beers at my home.
Lucky Nuts
11-27-20, 23:58
One thing which I am wondering about is, considering the extreme economic crisis in Cuba, will the police stop bothering foreign men dating Cuban girls? Especially with Western Union now shut down, will they decide that economics overrules communist morality? After all, I have a feeling that the majority of foreign visitors are single men who are not only looking for a nice beach. Cuba's main tourist attraction is a different type of natural beauty.
And then the main question is, if I am a first time tourist coming to Cuba for a month, with little knowledge of Spanish and no connections to anyone in the black market, will I be able to buy normal, good food, alcohol, hygiene products, medications (Viagra, Tylenol) etc. with a non-American dollar credit card? (I have Israeli credit cards.)The majority of foreign visitors are Canadian I think going down for a week in the sun on the Veradero Beach. Second (again I think) are Europeans traveling to see and experience Havana the historic city that time has left behind. I never saw many other guys playing our game on my trips to Cuba but I'm sure there were at least a few.
You can quit wondering about the police pressure easing up that's not going to happen. And by the way it's mostly pressure on the chicas not the foreign men. The police are enforcing what the government wants and the new president has taken harder stance than Fidel and Raul.
I doubt Viagra exists on the island outside of the elite class having access. No one else would have money for that type of thing anyhow. Without spanish speaking abiity I would discourage you from having high expectations should you travel to Cuba. But you might want to go anyhow for the culture aspect and just to gain an understanding how difficult are the conditions there. And if you meet the right person like a bi-lingual local who wants to make some money and knows the scene anything is possible.
Rather than using your Israeli credit card to buy stuff have a debit card to pull cash out of the ATMs. Money talks in Cuba louder than anywhere on earth.
The majority of foreign visitors are Canadian I think going down for a week in the sun on the Veradero Beach. Second (again I think) are Europeans traveling to see and experience Havana the historic city that time has left behind. I never saw many other guys playing our game on my trips to Cuba but I'm sure there were at least a few.
Rather than using your Israeli credit card to buy stuff have a debit card to pull cash out of the ATMs. Money talks in Cuba louder than anywhere on earth.Excellent post. But I would be very cautious about relying on ATM's in Cuba.
One thing which I am wondering about is, considering the extreme economic crisis in Cuba, will the police stop bothering foreign men dating Cuban girls? Especially with Western Union now shut down, will they decide that economics overrules communist morality? After all, I have a feeling that the majority of foreign visitors are single men who are not only looking for a nice beach. Cuba's main tourist attraction is a different type of natural beauty.
And then the main question is, if I am a first time tourist coming to Cuba for a month, with little knowledge of Spanish and no connections to anyone in the black market, will I be able to buy normal, good food, alcohol, hygiene products, medications (Viagra, Tylenol) etc. with a non-American dollar credit card? (I have Israeli credit cards.)Bring in cash (euros), set up yourself in Miramar with an educated connected family, ask English speaking member to assist you for a remuneration with all things Cuban. Bring all medications and hygiene products with you. Rum is available. Good food is an issue, but that's why you need to be in the best area. I would cook myself, as Cuban cuisine is one of the worst in the world due to the economic situation. Forget about politics. It's only a small minority that visit the island for the hobby. As for police, you have to know that all girls are different. Many are known to authorities and just report to them. It's a police state, and the role of police everywhere is not to fight crime, but keep it under control. Don't do drugs, minors or politics, be bold and straightforward, but respectful, pay, pay, pay and you will be ok. Have fun, good luck, come back and report.
HarryDubois
11-28-20, 05:53
The situation for tourists in Cuba will be about the same in the future as it was a year ago, regarding girls, currency, shopping etc?
I have heard that in the late 1990's, due to the extreme economic crisis then, prostitution pretty much ran wild.
The situation for tourists in Cuba will be about the same in the future as it was a year ago, regarding girls, currency, shopping etc?
I have heard that in the late 1990's, due to the extreme economic crisis then, prostitution pretty much ran wild.We look forward to your first report Harry.
HarryDubois
11-29-20, 05:47
We look forward to your first report Harry.I have this fantasy of arriving in Havana as one of the first tourists since March 2020 and being greeted like a rock star by thousands of screaming, nubile, gorgeous Caribbean girls starving for dollars.
It may be tough coping with that, however I will have to manage somehow, for the sake of male travelers world over. I am ready to be the tip of the spear so to speak.
Hi,
Does ISG work in Cuba?
It's only a small minority that visit the island for the hobby. As for police, you have to know that all girls are different.I've been to Cuba at least 10 times within a two year period. Besides my group or those associated with the group; I never seen another person associated with our hobby. When Obama lifted traveling restrictions, I noticed there were more family tourist and girlfriend getaways than single men traveling for Adventure on the planes departing from the US.
Rebel Monger
11-29-20, 17:55
One thing which I am wondering about is, considering the extreme economic crisis in Cuba, will the police stop bothering foreign men dating Cuban girls? Especially with Western Union now shut down, will they decide that economics overrules communist morality? After all, I have a feeling that the majority of foreign visitors are single men who are not only looking for a nice beach. Cuba's main tourist attraction is a different type of natural beauty.
And then the main question is, if I am a first time tourist coming to Cuba for a month, with little knowledge of Spanish and no connections to anyone in the black market, will I be able to buy normal, good food, alcohol, hygiene products, medications (Viagra, Tylenol) etc. with a non-American dollar credit card? (I have Israeli credit cards.)Communist morality!? Is that a joke? If you were to know what really happens in Cuba you would think that we're living in Neron's time!
Most tourists going to Cuba are doing it due to curiosity. Mongering is not really that easy in Cuba, there are plenty of willing, fine women but getting them to your place is complicated, in reality, the "authorities" love your money but prefer that you stay away from the women, mainly because they are very suspicious of foreigners, they "see" CIA agents in every one of them.
You can travel to Cuba already but it seems that the population is getting uncomfortable with the state of the economy and are beginning to protest, if you see one, just go the other way. Fast.
Just go over there and see what happens. I'm Cuban myself but even when I have close relatives there, I don't visit. I go to DR instead but for different reasons.
Communist morality!? Is that a joke? If you were to know what really happens in Cuba you would think that we're living in Neron's time!
You can travel to Cuba already but it seems that the population is getting uncomfortable with the state of the economy and are beginning to protest, if you see one, just go the other way. Fast.
Just go over there and see what happens. I'm Cuban myself but even when I have close relatives there, I don't visit. I go to DR instead but for different reasons.Great post, thank you! And you're right, the population is getting restless, check out these videos, people are starting to rise up!
https://www.youtube.com/c/ADNCuba/videos
I responded in my latest post to a member in my blocked list (for obvious trolling reasons) by mistake (when you are not logged in properly the list does not show, and you can't remove the post after 25 hours), however the content of the post is very true. As for the island the Cuban people have to move forward and many deals have to be made. What do you do with all those who have blood on their hands? How feasible is to return the confiscated property to owners or their heirs? How to incentivize the minority who holds the power to share it? How to make sure the accomplishments remain and the evils don't resurface?
I have this fantasy of arriving in Havana as one of the first tourists since March 2020 and being greeted like a rock star by thousands of screaming, nubile, gorgeous Caribbean girls starving for dollars.
It may be tough coping with that, however I will have to manage somehow, for the sake of male travelers world over. I am ready to be the tip of the spear so to speak.Keep Dreaming. The girls in Cuba are scared shitless of the police and the very appearance of working for a living.
What do you do with all those who have blood on their hands? How feasible is to return the confiscated property to owners or their heirs? How to incentivize the minority who holds the power to share it? How to make sure the accomplishments remain and the evils don't resurface?The same as always, blood.
"How do you return confiscated property?" Good question. The last time I looked, the USA had a 6 billion dollar lawsuit against Cuba for that very thing. We are talking about Rail Roads, Sugar Plantations and Mills, Rum Distilleries, Electric Infrastructure, Huge farms and plantations, Shirt Factories, Tobacco Industry, Mom and Pop grocery Stores, Gas Stations, you name it. IMO, it can't be replaced, all that can be done now is a monetary settlement. Which BTW, Cuba doesn't have. EDIT; or we can invade Cuba and reclaim our shit!
Dark days ahead for Cuba.
The same as always, blood.
"How do you return confiscated property?" Good question. The last time I looked, the USA had a 6 billion dollar lawsuit against Cuba for that very thing. We are talking about Rail Roads, Sugar Plantations and Mills, Rum Distilleries, Electric Infrastructure, Huge farms and plantations, Shirt Factories, Tobacco Industry, Mom and Pop grocery Stores, Gas Stations, you name it. IMO, it can't be replaced, all that can be done now is a monetary settlement. Which BTW, Cuba doesn't have. EDIT; or we can invade Cuba and reclaim our shit!
Dark days ahead for Cuba.I'm not in the loop, however I strongly believe there was an agreement since the days of the ride in the open motorcade in Dallas to let the island decide upon its future without intervention. Anyway, Cuba is a massively complicated topic. There are three things that deter me from more often trips, a) regulated and undeveloped accommodation situation b) expensive, unreliable and undeveloped communication infrastructure (mobile, internet) c) lack of stores or markets where you can buy food. All this makes Cuba a non-competitive proposition given other options in Latin America.
HarryDubois
12-01-20, 04:01
My idea was to visit Holguin, rent a nice casa particular, with a private entrance, maybe an entire house, and then walk around in the evening and ask pretty girls to come up to my apartment for a beer and a meal, a little fiesta perhaps, and see how it goes.
However if I am understanding this correctly, this will not be successful because the police will come running out and grab the girl. Or the girls will not dare speak to me to begin with. Also, even with a non-US credit card loaded with dollars, I am not going to be able to load my shopping cart up with good quality food products.
So I will be sitting alone in my condo with a bag of rice.
I am not worried about anti-government protests. As an American who believes in democracy and human rights, I will not hesitate to join the street fighters and sacrifice my life for the cause of freedom! Death to tyrants! 1776! (Just kidding.).
I'm not in the loop, however I strongly believe there was an agreement since the days of the ride in the open motorcade in Dallas to let the island decide upon its future without intervention. Anyway, Cuba is a massively complicated topic. There are three things that deter me from more often trips, a) regulated and undeveloped accommodation situation b) expensive, unreliable and undeveloped communication infrastructure (mobile, internet) c) lack of stores or markets where you can buy food. All this makes Cuba a non-competitive proposition given other options in Latin America.Well at least we managed to knock off Castro in 2016. Good riddance. Cartagena here I come.
MidLifeUsa
12-02-20, 02:55
Fellow mongers,
I am planning to be go to Cuba in last week of Dec // will appreciate help with few questions:
- how is the situation from covid and chica standpoint?
- how do I get from Havana to Holguin. Will appreciate any contacts you have for any reliable taxi / cab who may help me drive to Holguin.
- any recommendations for places to meet chicas in Holguin?
MongerHunger
12-03-20, 09:16
Fellow mongers,
I am planning to be go to Cuba in last week of Dec // will appreciate help with few questions:
- how is the situation from covid and chica standpoint?
- how do I get from Havana to Holguin. Will appreciate any contacts you have for any reliable taxi / cab who may help me drive to Holguin.
- any recommendations for places to meet chicas in Holguin?Taxi / Cab to Holguin?
Have you even looked at a map of Cuba to see how far Havana is from Holguin?
Penetrador
12-03-20, 17:45
Fellow mongers,
I am planning to be go to Cuba in last week of Dec // will appreciate help with few questions:
- how is the situation from covid and chica standpoint?
- how do I get from Havana to Holguin. Will appreciate any contacts you have for any reliable taxi / cab who may help me drive to Holguin.
- any recommendations for places to meet chicas in Holguin?Are you Looking for white skin Cuban girls also? I was told Holguin is the spot.
MidLifeUsa
12-03-20, 22:33
Taxi / Cab to Holguin?
Have you even looked at a map of Cuba to see how far Havana is from Holguin?I have but I thought there are no flights from Havana to Holguin.
MidLifeUsa
12-03-20, 22:36
Are you Looking for white skin Cuban girls also? I was told Holguin is the spot.Thanks what I have been told too. But during the lockdown look like getting to Holguin from Havana may be tough.
Are there any good spots in Havana and guanabo? I have been there early this year so have some idea about the landscape such as casa la music and few discos but looking for less hardened pro.
AmorPorFavor
12-03-20, 22:39
Are you Looking for white skin Cuban girls also? I was told Holguin is the spot.IMHO Havana is where its at. There are tons of smoking hot light skin Latinas all over the place plus lots of sexy mulatas not to mention the beautiful black women. That is where I spend most of my time. There are all sorts of cool things to do and see with great beaches 20 minutes away. I also like spending a few days in Cienfuegos and Veradaro but nothing compares to Havana.
MidLifeUsa
12-03-20, 22:43
IMHO Havana is where its at. There are tons of smoking hot light skin Latinas all over the place plus lots of sexy mulatas not to mention the beautiful black women. That is where I spend most of my time. There are all sorts of cool things to do and see with great beaches 20 minutes away. I also like spending a few days in Cienfuegos and Veradaro but nothing compares to Havana.Thanks AmorOorFavor. I don't speak any Spanish. Please let me know know if you have recommendations to meet white / light skin chicas.
AmorPorFavor
12-04-20, 02:43
Thanks AmorOorFavor. I don't speak any Spanish. Please let me know know if you have recommendations to meet white / light skin chicas.I meet them just hanging out in bars and walking around Old Town especially at night. They will approach you and say hola or they will be sitting around in door stoops and whatnot and you approach them and just say hola. It helps a lot to speak some Spanish so you should learn some, it will be worth it. Also met one at Playas del Este when I was just laying around on a lounge chair and she was nearby and signaled to me. Also some of the pedicap drivers can hook you up with girls they know, just take a ride ask them. Most of them speak English. Some will have pics on their phone of the chicas. They are not pimps they just know the girls but you can give them a nice little tip if they deliver.
HarryDubois
12-04-20, 03:07
I think it's 50 CUC in each direction.
Also I am looking for a lighter skinned girl who is more of a sugar baby than a real prostitute. I was considering contacting them through Latin American Cupid, or just walking around Holguin and with Google Translate picking girls up and seeing what works out.
However is Havana better?
And does anyone know what is actually going on now, post COVID, since they have reopened the country on November 15? Perhaps Havana is empty because the girls have gone home to the small towns, therefore maybe Holguin would be a better option.
Lucky Nuts
12-04-20, 03:30
I meet them just hanging out in bars and walking around Old Town especially at night. They will approach you and say hola or they will be sitting around in door stoops and whatnot and you approach them and just say hola. It helps a lot to speak some Spanish so you should learn some, it will be worth it. Also met one at Playas del Este when I was just laying around on a lounge chair and she was nearby and signaled to me. Also some of the pedicap drivers can hook you up with girls they know, just take a ride ask them. Most of them speak English. Some will have pics on their phone of the chicas. They are not pimps they just know the girls but you can give them a nice little tip if they deliver.Very good advice. I second everything APF said here. Newbies should learn Cuba in Havana first. You should actually be able to find a casa where you can sneak in chicas. And you should be able to find a bi-lingual helper on a pedibike or just walking around.
I think it's 50 CUC in each direction.
Also I am looking for a lighter skinned girl who is more of a sugar baby than a real prostitute. I was considering contacting them through Latin American Cupid, or just walking around Holguin and with Google Translate picking girls up and seeing what works out.
However is Havana better?
And does anyone know what is actually going on now, post COVID, since they have reopened the country on November 15? Perhaps Havana is empty because the girls have gone home to the small towns, therefore maybe Holguin would be a better option.Be sure to load the offline version of google translate as you will often be without internet signal.
Viazul is the government's bus line and I traveled one end of the island to the other and I do NOT recommend it. If you want to visit Holguin then fly there from Havana. You can buy the ticket after you arrive in Havana at the Cubana Airline's office. I don't believe you will be able to find a casa particular where you can bring a chica unless the chica is willing to register with the owner of the apartment. And the chicas are not willing to do that because it's puts them on a list of prostitutes which is not a legal profession in Cuba and they can get into much trouble with the police. As I recall a third offense requires jail time.
Stick to Havana. Everyone there is practiced on how to play the cat and mouse game around the police. Find a bi-lingual helper and pay him a couple CUC each time he helps you. Good luck. I can't wait to read the reports from you and mid life.
HarryDubois
12-04-20, 04:39
Stick to Havana. Everyone there is practiced on how to play the cat and mouse game around the police. Find a bi-lingual helper and pay him a couple CUC each time he helps you. Good luck. I can't wait to read the reports from you and mid life.Wow, interesting. I have actually been corresponding for months with this really gorgeous 19 year old medical student in Holguin. Of course online and real life may be very different, but I have a very good feeling about her. I'm sure that she doesn't want to be arrested for prostitution however. And I suppose neither do most other random girls on the street in Holguin, in case my online friend doesn't work out.
The question is, is Havana back to normal in any way regarding girls? It looks to me as if regular flights are going to start up around mid-January and even then, how many people will go considering that in many countries (including where I live) upon returning you need to go into two week house arrest (quarantine)?
Also, considering the crisis in Cuba, people need to eat, can't the police ease up on the girl situation? They are desperate for dollars. They did that in the late 1990's I have heard. I would spend a few dollars to spend a few weeks with a nice girl. I think the Cuban government would prefer to have some teen girls messing around with tourists rather than deal with food riots.
Lucky Nuts
12-04-20, 04:47
I would spend a few dollars to spend a few weeks with a nice girl. I think the Cuban government would prefer to have some teen girls messing around with tourists rather than deal with food riots.Actually I believe you (and the chica) would be fine if you have one girl (the same girl) registering with you at many different apartments or hotels. The government doesn't want one girl registering with many different men. Ask her if she understand that when you arrive in Holguin she will need to register with the casa or hotel you stay at. If she's a pro she will refuse to do that. If she's not a pro she should have no hesitation to register in their offical log.
MidLifeUsa
12-04-20, 16:30
I meet them just hanging out in bars and walking around Old Town especially at night. They will approach you and say hola or they will be sitting around in door stoops and whatnot and you approach them and just say hola. It helps a lot to speak some Spanish so you should learn some, it will be worth it. Also met one at Playas del Este when I was just laying around on a lounge chair and she was nearby and signaled to me. Also some of the pedicap drivers can hook you up with girls they know, just take a ride ask them. Most of them speak English. Some will have pics on their phone of the chicas. They are not pimps they just know the girls but you can give them a nice little tip if they deliver.Thank you AmorPorFavor. I have never stayed in old Havana in the past but will try it this time.
HarryDubois
12-04-20, 16:59
Actually I believe you (and the chica) would be fine if you have one girl (the same girl) registering with you at many different apartments or hotels.I would stay at one casa in Holguin and I am pretty sure that she is a legitimate medical student.
But if I have my own apartment with my own entrance, let's say some girl shows up at 4:00 pm or whatever after classes, knocks on the door, comes in, leaves at 8:00 am every day, how will the casa owner know? Will he be spying on me? Banging on the door demanding to know who is this woman and what I am doing with her? She is 19; we are both consenting adults.
Muzungufotsy
12-04-20, 17:05
I would stay at one casa in Holguin and I am pretty sure that she is a legitimate medical student.
But if I have my own apartment with my own entrance, let's say some girl shows up at 4:00 pm or whatever after classes, knocks on the door, comes in, leaves at 8:00 am every day, how will the casa owner know? Will he be spying on me? Banging on the door demanding to know who is this woman and what I am doing with her? She is 19; we are both consenting adults.I guess you have never been to Cuba. RTFF first before asking useless questions. People know everything at all times there specially in Holguin. Keep this in mind that s all.
I would stay at one casa in Holguin and I am pretty sure that she is a legitimate medical student.
But if I have my own apartment with my own entrance, let's say some girl shows up at 4:00 pm or whatever after classes, knocks on the door, comes in, leaves at 8:00 am every day, how will the casa owner know? Will he be spying on me? Banging on the door demanding to know who is this woman and what I am doing with her? She is 19; we are both consenting adults.It is not so easy. I was in Holguin a couple years ago. It is illegal to give the key to renter and allow a guest into the apartment without registering. Owner unlocks the door for you to enter and leave your apartment. I met a very nice woman and I brought her to my apartment. But she did not want to register and left. It was a horrible feeling. Next day I asked minimum 10 casa particulars if they give me the key to my apartment. They said no. They told me if they are caught, they lose their license and go to jail. It may work only if you go to her apartment and take care of business there. Also, people in Holguin doesn't want to be seen with foreigners. Overall, everything is difficult over there.
It is not so easy. I was in Holguin a couple years ago. It is illegal to give the key to renter and allow a guest into the apartment without registering. Owner unlocks the door for you to enter and leave your apartment. I met a very nice woman and I brought her to my apartment. But she did not want to register and left. It was a horrible feeling. Next day I asked minimum 10 casa particulars if they give me the key to my apartment. They said no. They told me if they are caught, they lose their license and go to jail. It may work only if you go to her apartment and take care of business there. Also, people in Holguin doesn't want to be seen with foreigners. Overall, everything is difficult over there.Your report on the area a few years back is a must read for anyone considering being in that location. I felt your pain and frustration Reading your report.
MjTravelLove
12-04-20, 22:03
Well at least we managed to knock off Castro in 2016. Good riddance. Cartagena here I come.Cuba can be amazing but have to know contacts and speak some spanish and be somewhat outgoing. Not point and click like Brazil, Colombia and so forth. But there are some GEMS to be found in Cuba.
Cartagena? Ok. Fair. But better yet, Bogota, Cali or Medellin. All have more options and less tourists. It's more of a pure scene. If you want the heat and the women, Cartagena is good, but so is Santa Marta. The ass in downtown SM on a weekend evening is on another level altogether.
IMHO Havana is where its at. There are tons of smoking hot light skin Latinas all over the place plus lots of sexy mulatas not to mention the beautiful black women. That is where I spend most of my time. There are all sorts of cool things to do and see with great beaches 20 minutes away. I also like spending a few days in Cienfuegos and Veradaro but nothing compares to Havana.Exactly! Wonderful post. Havana is FULL of available beautiful chicas, for a GREAT price. There is plenty to do, and the nightlife doesn't end until 4 am or sometimes when the sun is coming up. Don't believe the hype about the chicas being afraid of the cops. Yes, some females are freighted by them, but definitely not the majority. Go have a blast and enjoy the sweetness of the chicas on the island.
Cuba can be amazing but have to know contacts and speak some spanish and be somewhat outgoing. Not point and click like Brazil, Colombia and so forth. But there are some GEMS to be found in Cuba.
Cartagena? Ok. Fair. But better yet, Bogota, Cali or Medellin. All have more options and less tourists. It's more of a pure scene. If you want the heat and the women, Cartagena is good, but so is Santa Marta. The ass in downtown SM on a weekend evening is on another level altogether.Agreed. Havana can be awesome! My first trip to Havana was off the hook! I meet 3 young chicas who were from way out in the country and they were in Havana to make some Christmas money, wound up fucking all three of them. I've been back about 10 times since 2016, things started going downhill around 2018. My last trip in March of this year was disappointing, I,e, lack of descent food and beer, it was a struggle.
I have been to Medellin a couple times, completely different vibe. The girls have a harder edge, and the pace of Medellin is lightning fast compared to Havana. But still, some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. I like Medellin, beautiful place, and it's definitely on my list to re-visit, as well as Cartagena.
Sammytheman
12-05-20, 02:25
Agreed. Havana can be awesome! My first trip to Havana was off the hook! I meet 3 young chicas who were from way out in the country and they were in Havana to make some Christmas money, wound up fucking all three of them. I've been back about 10 times since 2016, things started going downhill around 2018. My last trip in March of this year was disappointing, I,e, lack of descent food and beer, it was a struggle.
I have been to Medellin a couple times, completely different vibe. The girls have a harder edge, and the pace of Medellin is lightning fast compared to Havana. But still, some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. I like Medellin, beautiful place, and it's definitely on my list to re-visit, as well as Cartagena.Would you say Medellin is better than Havana chica / price / attitude wise?
Thanks.
HarryDubois
12-05-20, 03:47
It is illegal to give the key to renterWow, I didn't know that. Thank you for the information. What kind of nonsense is that? I am renting but I don't get a key? How about he doesn't get any money? That would be fair LOL.
Lucky Nuts
12-05-20, 04:04
Wow, I didn't know that. Thank you for the information. What kind of nonsense is that? I am renting but I don't get a key? How about he doesn't get any money? That would be fair LOL.One of my casa particulares did give me a key but kept a very close eye on me as they all do. The first time she knew I snuck in a chica she warned me the next morning with my breakfast. The second time she took away my key LOL. Told me to wake her up from bed when I came home from the bars. Of course I moved out that day and found a more understanding owner. But the one city I never could find an understanding apartment owner was Holguin. They are deathly afraid of the breaking the government's rules in that city.
But Harry you are sure your chica is a regular girl so she will have no hesitation registering with your casa. Problem solved! You are welcome.
Sammytheman
12-05-20, 04:28
I have been to Holguin, Havana, Las Tunas and had no issues getting the key. The toughest is Holguin but I found a rare old man who only charges me $15 CUCs and gives me the key. The key for the gate to get inside his house and the key to one of the rooms. He has 2. His only rule is the chica has to leave before 6 am. One time in 2016 me and my buddy had 3 girls upstairs and they left at 6:10 am. The owner got a little mad because he's scared of the fuckin police (obviously) but since then we've been good friends. This was found via my Cuban friend and after 14 trips to Holguin.
AmorPorFavor
12-05-20, 05:13
Here is a very cool travel video. Nonmongering. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txahfwbIRIo.
HarryDubois
12-05-20, 06:16
One of my casa particulares did give me a key but kept a very close eye on me as they all do. The first time she knew I snuck in a chica she warned me the next morning with my breakfast. The second time she took away my key LOL. That is such bullshit, excuse my language. I really had no idea it's like that in Cuba, or Cuba outside Havana. That's crazy. I am 60, I currently rent my home as I have for a good portion of my life, and my understanding of "rent" means that this place belongs to me so long as I am paying for it. I am an adult and I am doing what I want. If the owner needs to keep the key, then I am keeping my money. I am not interested.
I am now starting think: Forget Holguin, go to Cebu in the Philippines, whenever that may reopen. I have a gorgeous online girlfriend there as well. Hopefully we will soon have a vaccine and COVID will be over and travel will be possible.
NRandom940
12-05-20, 08:03
Never been to Cuba. I've heard that girls just approach you in the street. Is that an exaggeration? And since I can't have girls back to my place, where do I take them? Are there any good websites you recommend?
Would you say Medellin is better than Havana chica / price / attitude wise?
Thanks.I prefer the girls in Cuba. They are almost innocent angels compared to the hardened pros in Colombia. But Colombia has some stunners as far as looks.
The conditions in Cuba these days is harsh. Cubans CANNOT cook worth a shit. I always struggle with the food in Cuba, big drawback for me, in Colombia, the food is great! No shortage of anything.
It's hard to compare Cuba vs Colombia, two completely different places. For what it's worth, my next trip will be to Medellin or Cartagena Colombia. I'm going to wait for the conditions to improve in Cuba before I return.
AmericanPi
12-06-20, 18:30
That is such bullshit, excuse my language. I really had no idea it's like that in Cuba, or Cuba outside Havana. That's crazy. I am 60, I currently rent my home as I have for a good portion of my life, and my understanding of "rent" means that this place belongs to me so long as I am paying for it. I am an adult and I am doing what I want. If the owner needs to keep the key, then I am keeping my money. I am not interested.
I am now starting think: Forget Holguin, go to Cebu in the Philippines, whenever that may reopen. I have a gorgeous online girlfriend there as well. Hopefully we will soon have a vaccine and COVID will be over and travel will be possible.Been to Havana twice. That was not my experience at all. Casa owners are just trying to make a few ends meet. I asked both, ahead of time, "can I have a friend stay with me while I'm there". They said yes. No problems whatsoever. In one case the owner lived in another room but I had private entry and own key. In the other instance the owner just stays with his girlfriend while his apartment is rented out. Either way, there were zero problems.
Been to Havana twice. That was not my experience at all. Casa owners are just trying to make a few ends meet. I asked both, ahead of time, "can I have a friend stay with me while I'm there". They said yes. No problems whatsoever. In one case the owner lived in another room but I had private entry and own key. In the other instance the owner just stays with his girlfriend while his apartment is rented out. Either way, there were zero problems.I can 2nd, 3rd, 4th, all the way to 16th that! Never had a problem bringing chicas in the casa, all 16 times that I have been to Havana, and that includes, February and March of this year.
Lucky Nuts
12-07-20, 07:14
Would you say Medellin is better than Havana chica / price / attitude wise?
Thanks.Going to Cuba is like going camping. It can be a lot of fun "roughing it" for a few days maybe even a week or ten days. But after that you are ready to return to civilization.
I spend winters in Medellin. It's a first world country with third world prices. Best place in the world right now imo.
Hey Chris,
I'm with you, never had an issue with the owners where I stay (Vedado by the Malecon).
The only thing they always mention is to be careful in case I bring a "guest" who I'm not familiar with since this might open the door (pun intended) to being "taken" advantage of.
In other words they're looking out for me by letting me know there are some hard core jineteras who fit this M. O.
Mondo.
NRandom940
12-07-20, 09:48
Going to Cuba is like going camping. It can be a lot of fun "roughing it" for a few days maybe even a week or ten days. But after that you are ready to return to civilization.
I spend winters in Medellin. It's a first world country with third world prices. Best place in the world right now imo.Agreed. I just went from Colombia, then briefly to Peru before going to Bolivia for a week. Then flew back to Colombia after being in Bolivia for a week it's like returning to "civilization."
That's not to say Bolivia was bad, but Colombia is 100 x better.
Hey Chris,
I'm with you, never had an issue with the owners where I stay (Vedado by the Malecon).
The only thing they always mention is to be careful in case I bring a "guest" who I'm not familiar with since this might open the door (pun intended) to being "taken" advantage of.
In other words they're looking out for me by letting me know there are some hard core jineteras who fit this M. O.
Mondo.I have a question for you and Chris H to clarify the issue in Havana. Does your guest have to register with owner before she can come to your room? Do owners allow guests without registering? In Holguin key was first problem, registration was second. Nobody was allowed without registering.
I have a question for you and Chris H to clarify the issue in Havana. Does your guest have to register with owner before she can come to your room? Do owners allow guests without registering? In Holguin key was first problem, registration was second. Nobody was allowed without registering.I can't talk for Chris, but where I stayed the owner gave me the key and told me to be cautious if I brought any girls to the apartment. No registration needed.
I have a question for you and Chris H to clarify the issue in Havana. Does your guest have to register with owner before she can come to your room? Do owners allow guests without registering? In Holguin key was first problem, registration was second. Nobody was allowed without registering.I have stayed in casas, where we have the entire place to ourselves, so there wasn't anyone to register the girls with. Other places, sometimes we would have to register them, sometimes not. Once you get a solid relationship with the casa owners, they become more lenient.
DiavelLoco
12-07-20, 16:42
I am probably not the best person to give any input regarding this, since I live in Cuba. I have only booked a room for the whole day once here in havana, and that was with chris h. I had the key with me all the time and when I left, I didn't even return the key to the owner. Chris took care of it. However, I have rented rooms for a short period (1-2 hours) way too many times, at least once a week minimum. Never had any problem whatsoever. Maybe sometimes, there aren't any rooms available at my regular place, I just go to another location. I have never failed to find a room available, when and where I need one. It was always available, even during the lockdown in havana at the peak of covid19. BTW I pay 5-10 cuc each time for the room, depending on the location and size of the room.
Agreed. Havana can be awesome! My first trip to Havana was off the hook! I meet 3 young chicas who were from way out in the country and they were in Havana to make some Christmas money, wound up fucking all three of them. I've been back about 10 times since 2016, things started going downhill around 2018. My last trip in March of this year was disappointing, I,e, lack of descent food and beer, it was a struggle.
I have been to Medellin a couple times, completely different vibe. The girls have a harder edge, and the pace of Medellin is lightning fast compared to Havana. But still, some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. I like Medellin, beautiful place, and it's definitely on my list to re-visit, as well as Cartagena.Havana was just awful for me back in January. The taxi driver warned me that they were fining tourist that did sexual tourism. I did get some nice action on that trip, but it was in a town called Mayari in the province of Holguin. I was told that Moa is also a good destination in Cuba.
AmericanPi
12-07-20, 20:16
I am probably not the best person to give any input regarding this, since I live in Cuba. I have only booked a room for the whole day once here in havana, and that was with chris h. I had the key with me all the time and when I left, I didn't even return the key to the owner. Chris took care of it. However, I have rented rooms for a short period (1-2 hours) way too many times, at least once a week minimum. Never had any problem whatsoever. Maybe sometimes, there aren't any rooms available at my regular place, I just go to another location. I have never failed to find a room available, when and where I need one. It was always available, even during the lockdown in havana at the peak of covid19. BTW I pay 5-10 cuc each time for the room, depending on the location and size of the room.You live in Cuba? Are you Cuban or non-Cuban and living there? I'm really interested to hear your story. If I were going to Cuba I'd offer to take you for drinks to pick your brain!
Lucky Nuts
12-08-20, 03:25
I can 2nd, 3rd, 4th, all the way to 16th that! Never had a problem bringing chicas in the casa, all 16 times that I have been to Havana, and that includes, February and March of this year.The discussion here kind of ran off the rails LOL. Although this is the Havana thread a poster named Harry was asking about Holguin because he fell in love over the internet with a girl there. So we were talking about a different part of Cuba than Havana. I think we all agree Havana is a good place for the game both in terms of finding interested chicas and finding apartments to bring them. The city of Holguin has the chicas but the apartment owners strongly enforce the government's policy in that all guests need to be registered. So it's ok to bring a chica (even in the middle of the night) but she needs to register. Havana not so much. But maybe things have changed based on TxSnake's recent experience.
The discussion here kind of ran off the rails LOL. Although this is the Havana thread a poster named Harry was asking about Holguin because he fell in love over the internet with a girl there. So we were talking about a different part of Cuba than Havana. I think we all agree Havana is a good place for the game both in terms of finding interested chicas and finding apartments to bring them. The city of Holguin has the chicas but the apartment owners strongly enforce the government's policy in that all guests need to be registered. So it's ok to bring a chica (even in the middle of the night) but she needs to register. Havana not so much. But maybe things have changed based on TxSnake's recent experience.You right, who the hell goes to Holguin? 500 hundred miles (1127 KM) from Havana? "fell in love over the internet" hahahaha.
Lucky Nuts
12-08-20, 07:04
You right, who the hell goes to Holguin? 500 hundred miles (1127 KM) from Havana? "fell in love over the internet" hahahaha.Yeah some guys come and ask questions without doing any other research. Because it's an island country they think it's like Aruba and you can drive from one end to the other in less than an hour LOL.
You right, who the hell goes to Holguin? 500 hundred miles (1127 KM) from Havana? "fell in love over the internet" hahahaha.I did. Not to Holguin, but to Las Tunas.
GeneHickman
12-09-20, 17:11
Cuban experts,
I have been messaging a few of these Chicas last week or so, they seem very sweet and the back on forth on messenger is well. Then they drop a request for a recarga citing their financial hardship. Is that some sort of scam, hassle or a true request?
Of course I declined saying I haven't met you. But I am just wondering if any others have had that experience.
Muzungufotsy
12-09-20, 18:07
Cuban experts,
I have been messaging a few of these Chicas last week or so, they seem very sweet and the back on forth on messenger is well. Then they drop a request for a recarga citing their financial hardship. Is that some sort of scam, hassle or a true request?
Of course I declined saying I haven't met you. But I am just wondering if any others have had that experience.They do that with everybody. Don't fall for this. [Deleted by Admin]
Cuban experts,
I have been messaging a few of these Chicas last week or so, they seem very sweet and the back on forth on messenger is well. Then they drop a request for a recarga citing their financial hardship. Is that some sort of scam, hassle or a true request?
Of course I declined saying I haven't met you. But I am just wondering if any others have had that experience.If you have never meet them, I wouldn't send them anything. With that said, Cubans are having a very difficult time these days, they are desperate. If you do decide to send some money, that money usually goes to their boyfriends and family. It's a very good possibility that they already have some other guy('s) sending them money anyway.
I did. Not to Holguin, but to Las Tunas.To be honest, I have been to Santa Clara and Ciego de Avila a couple times. I wanted to see the countryside of Cuba, plus I knew a couple chicas in Ciego. That was back in the "good" days in Cuba, before the the real shortages started setting in. Now that I've seen that part of Cuba, I'm not going back anytime soon, probably never. It is very expensive travelling outside of Havana. Havana to Ciego round trip = $300 taxi fare.
Hi gents,
What's the word around town?
Last I read here was that no tourists allowed in Havana, just from the airport straight to the resort.
Has anything changed since then? I'm hoping to visit around Jan / Feb.
Thanks.
MidLifeUsa
12-15-20, 17:39
Hi gents,
What's the word around town?
Last I read here was that no tourists allowed in Havana, just from the airport straight to the resort.
Has anything changed since then? I'm hoping to visit around Jan / Feb.
Thanks.I thought you can get tested on airport and then can go to casa. From that point on take basic precautions such as wearing mask and do what we need to do.
Hi gents,
What's the word around town?
Last I read here was that no tourists allowed in Havana, just from the airport straight to the resort.
Has anything changed since then? I'm hoping to visit around Jan / Feb.
Thanks.Looks like you will be tested (covid) when you get there, then isolated for 5 days, then tested again.
"Incoming travelers will be given a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test upon arrival. They are then required to self-isolate. On day five of isolation, they will be required to undergo a second PCR test".
US Embassy - https://cu.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/.
The discussion here kind of ran off the rails LOL. Although this is the Havana thread a poster named Harry was asking about Holguin because he fell in love over the internet with a girl there. So we were talking about a different part of Cuba than Havana. I think we all agree Havana is a good place for the game both in terms of finding interested chicas and finding apartments to bring them. The city of Holguin has the chicas but the apartment owners strongly enforce the government's policy in that all guests need to be registered. So it's ok to bring a chica (even in the middle of the night) but she needs to register. Havana not so much. But maybe things have changed based on TxSnake's recent experience.One must never forget that Cuban chicas are providing a service, just like a taxi driver. Most chicas I met become very annoyed about any conversation that they are "Pay for Play". What you can get away with is making clear that you are seeking an experience (which obviously includes intimacy). That is truthfully what I expect. I will happily buy a pig for the chica's family with the understanding that I'm doing so for her to show off her family's cooking skills and enjoy an all I can eat experience. I expect to learn something about life in Cuba. It somewhat allows her to salvage a sense of dignity when you communicate an expectation of much more than sex, but rather a full experience. Don't forget to communicate a very low tolerance for things such as being late. I think such things even help the chica keep some dignity because it gives her a chance to prove that she's a responsible person.
Staying emotionally unattached is essential, but appreciating her talent to show you a good time in every way much in the way you would appreciate and return to a fine chef for good food has worked well for me. The Cubanas I have met appreciate being referred to as a skilled companion, but resent being referred to like a piece of meat. In other words, demand and recognize talent for a chica who is a skilled companion. Kick the problem chicas to the curb. The province of Holguin has a culture that results in pleasant, enjoyable chicas. For best results, don't tolerate unprofessionalism.
Cuban experts,
I have been messaging a few of these Chicas last week or so, they seem very sweet and the back on forth on messenger is well. Then they drop a request for a recarga citing their financial hardship. Is that some sort of scam, hassle or a true request?
Of course I declined saying I haven't met you. But I am just wondering if any others have had that experience.Make her earn it, but understand you may need to teach her how to earn it. If she stays in regular communication, helps you practice your Spanish, informs you of what her life is like in Cuba, plans activities for your next visit to Cuba, sending her twenty bucks every two months would be fair. If after teaching her how to earn it, she refuses, then don't communicate with her.
HarryDubois
12-16-20, 11:52
I have been messaging a few of these Chicas last week or so, they seem very sweet and the back on forth on messenger is well. Then they drop a request for a recarga citing their financial hardship. Is that some sort of scam, hassle or a true request?EVERY SINGLE CUBAN GIRL DOES THAT. But who knows if she's even a girl unless you did a video chat? My response is "After we have sex, you get paid. " Unless you want to pay for some sexting, which is up to you if that's your thing.
EVERY SINGLE CUBAN GIRL DOES THAT. But who knows if she's even a girl unless you did a video chat? My response is "After we have sex, you get paid. " Unless you want to pay for some sexting, which is up to you if that's your thing.I think that you lose out on opportunities with that approach. After chatting with her for a day or two I ask for a photo of her Carnet de Identidad to prove she's not a minor. If what she told you in the chat contradicts what's on the ID, you know she's not worth your time. Sexting and pornography is illegal in Cuba. If she sends you a nude photo, remind her that you could be denied entry into Cuba if you forget to delete it. Your purpose for online chat is to see if a chica can follow instructions. What if that photo you get was of her from 20 years ago? All is not lost! Don't lose your temper and let her know that you will make it worth her while for her to find you what you're looking for. Networking pays off in Cuba.
Another thing, these chicas were raised under socialism. That means that you need to teach the principle of "give something; get something". Perhaps one in three understand if they provide only a little value, they get peanuts. If she only provides information and conversation, that's worth maybe ten bucks. Paying peanuts proves that you're not playing games but it also gets the point across that if she wants more, she needs to do more. Some chicas are available, but consider it beneath them to take cash for sex. One chica that I really liked would point out a dress that she liked. All I had to say is "convince me". She did everything I wanted (BBFS) and the dress was about $25. I never explicitly offered her cash for sex and if I did, it wouldn't work.
AmericanPi
12-17-20, 16:46
Can I ask, for those of you messaging prospects ahead of your trips to Havana, where are you finding them? Like if you say "on Facebook" or something, does that mean I can just go in my FB account and search for people and start sending invites? Or is there some other way to do it?
Rebel Monger
12-19-20, 05:02
To be honest, I have been to Santa Clara and Ciego de Avila a couple times. I wanted to see the countryside of Cuba, plus I knew a couple chicas in Ciego. That was back in the "good" days in Cuba, before the the real shortages started setting in. Now that I've seen that part of Cuba, I'm not going back anytime soon, probably never. It is very expensive travelling outside of Havana. Havana to Ciego round trip = $300 taxi fare.I think that $300 for a taxi ride from Havana to Ciego (round trip) is not bad at all, that's a long haul. But don't they have a bus for that? https://www.viazul.com.
Rebel Monger
12-19-20, 05:24
Cuban experts,
I have been messaging a few of these Chicas last week or so, they seem very sweet and the back on forth on messenger is well. Then they drop a request for a recarga citing their financial hardship. Is that some sort of scam, hassle or a true request?
Of course I declined saying I haven't met you. But I am just wondering if any others have had that experience.That happens with (most) any Cuban you communicate with. They befriend you in Facebook, send you a couple of inconsequential messages and then the "life is too hard here" message hits you, even from people you know (even family). It's really hard there but a cell recharge or $100 is not going to change that.
So, to answer your question: is it a scam, hassle or true request? My answer is yes to "all of the above. " By the way, when they get a recharge, they can (and will) sell them.
IMHO, no matter what others might say, and based on my experience, there's no need to communicate with the women you want to bed before you get there, and never after you leave. That always ends up with a money request or something else, and no, it won't count as a prepayment (no matter what people tell you).
Can you hunt a tiger before you get to the jungle? Of course not, right? Neither you can bed a woman before you meet her. In Cuba or any other country, hunt once you get there, that's where the fun is!
I think that $300 for a taxi ride from Havana to Ciego (round trip) is not bad at all, that's a long haul. But don't they have a bus for that? https://www.viazul.com.Haha yeah they have a bus for that. But I didn't want to turn a 4 hour trip into a 7 hour trip. Plus, you can stop and take a piss whenever you want to LOL. So all in all, I guess $300 is not bad at all.
IMHO, no matter what others might say, and based on my experience, there's no need to communicate with the women you want to bed before you get there, and never after you leave. That always ends up with a money request or something else, and no, it won't count as a prepayment (no matter what people tell you).
Can you hunt a tiger before you get to the jungle? Of course not, right? Neither you can bed a woman before you meet her. In Cuba or any other country, hunt once you get there, that's where the fun is!What a GREAT MESSAGE! ALL very true. No need for communication, until you are actually on the island, and done with it once you depart the island.
Sammytheman
12-21-20, 17:53
Haha yeah they have a bus for that. But I didn't want to turn a 4 hour trip into a 7 hour trip. Plus, you can stop and take a piss whenever you want to LOL. So all in all, I guess $300 is not bad at all.I've paid $100 CUCs to go from havana to holguin in 2012 with a a police officer I befriended. He stayed with us for the whole week and brought us back to Havana for another $100. I did pay for his food / clubs totalling another $200 cucs or so. Good old days.
That happens with (most) any Cuban you communicate with. They befriend you in Facebook, send you a couple of inconsequential messages and then the "life is too hard here" message hits you, even from people you know (even family). It's really hard there but a cell recharge or $100 is not going to change that.
So, to answer your question: is it a scam, hassle or true request? My answer is yes to "all of the above. " By the way, when they get a recharge, they can (and will) sell them.
IMHO, no matter what others might say, and based on my experience, there's no need to communicate with the women you want to bed before you get there, and never after you leave. That always ends up with a money request or something else, and no, it won't count as a prepayment (no matter what people tell you).
Can you hunt a tiger before you get to the jungle? Of course not, right? Neither you can bed a woman before you meet her. In Cuba or any other country, hunt once you get there, that's where the fun is!I see this as an opportunity to teach capitalism and demonstrate that everything has a price. It also keeps things transactional and not social / emotional. I have gotten good results with chicas that understand the idea of receiving in proportion to what they provide. There are ways to get an indication what kind of person you're dealing with. Similar to a slot (****?) machine, don't put in more than you're willing to lose. Sending an amount that communicates a "tip" for facilitating vacation plans has gotten me good results. I look for a female "travel buddy" with benefits. "Amigos con derechos" as the Maluma song say. I have met several chicas that don't want cash. One memorable was one that put out every day in exchange for a trip to Cienfuegos.
I see this as an opportunity to teach capitalism and demonstrate that everything has a price...I think they already know this.
Received this this morning from DING, I use them to recharge Cubacel.
As of January 1, 2021 all recharges to Cuba will be sent in CUP (Cuban Pesos).
Following the recent decision of the Cuban Government to withdraw the Cuban Convertible Pesos (CUC) currency from the national economy next year. As of January 1, 2021, all recharges will be sent to Cuba in CUP instead of CUC, as defined by the Cuban Telecommunications Operator, ETECSA.
But don't worry, we've done everything necessary to ensure your refills are received as quickly and easily as usual.
All Cuban rates and any existing balance in CUC will continue to be valid and ETECSA will convert them to CUP according to the exchange rate 1 CUC = 25 CUP.
Therefore, you can enjoy the same benefits received so far for a recharge in CUC.
For example, with a 500 CUP recharge, you can buy a 2 GB Cubacel Data Plan as you did before with a 20 CUC recharge.
We will show you the value of the recharge in CUP and its corresponding price in USD or any other international currency, according to the exchange rate on the day of purchase.
This change will be executed between 10 PM (Cuban time) on December 31 and 8 AM (Cuban time) on January 1, 2021. During this time all ETECSA systems will be interrupted and therefore no recharges can be sent To Cuba.
We kindly ask you to send your recharges to Cuba starting at 9 AM (Cuban time) on January 1, 2021.
Don't be gullible, the market rates are much higher than 24:1 on CUP.
Don't be gullible, the market rates are much higher than 24:1 on CUP.Yep, it says 25:1. But your point is not that. When you say market rates you mean black market rates. So tell us what is the black market rate.
I want to go, but would like to hear from some people that have been lately. I understand the 3 day quarantine. But is decent food, cold beer available without having any hookups or great Spanish? I have 2 chicas I'm very anxious to see that will quarantine with me.
Muzungufotsy
01-01-21, 18:12
I want to go, but would like to hear from some people that have been lately. I understand the 3 day quarantine. But is decent food, cold beer available without having any hookups or great Spanish? I have 2 chicas I'm very anxious to see that will quarantine with me.They won't let you have a quarantine with girls stop dreaming! A doctor comes to check on you every day.
I want to go, but would like to hear from some people that have been lately. I understand the 3 day quarantine. But is decent food, cold beer available without having any hookups or great Spanish? I have 2 chicas I'm very anxious to see that will quarantine with me.I would recommend that you wait until this covid shit is over. You will not be able to see your chicas, tourist cannot contact any Cubans other than the workers at the resort that you will be confined to. BTW. The workers are also confined to the resort, nobody can leave, except for your bus ride back to the airport.
*Travelers visiting Varadero are required to have COVID-19 insurance and must bring proof of their hotel reservation. All tourists are required to stay in the 'safe tourist corridor' zone. *.
More here - https://cubatravelservices.com/notice-for-travellers-covid-19/.
This Canadian guy just got back from Cayo Coco. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsa-nN2CcLA.
Yep, it says 25:1. But your point is not that. When you say market rates you mean black market rates. So tell us what is the black market rate.I don't know of a reputable site yet, like for Venezuela or Argentina. Yes, the market rates are more than double the official, and Cubans post in ads the rate for the day they can exchange in an old fashioned way. The official rate has no chance to hold and never had. I expect it to go up at least five fold soon, but we shall see.
I don't know of a reputable site yet, like for Venezuela or Argentina. Yes, the market rates are more than double the official, and Cubans post in ads the rate for the day they can exchange in an old fashioned way. The official rate has no chance to hold and never had. I expect it to go up at least five fold soon, but we shall see.Yes you are right. I'm thinking Cuba in its current political form, is doomed. The Cuban Peso is worthless. What international trading partner will accept Cuban Peso's? None. Nada. They won't, that's why there is a mad scramble in Cuba to acquire USD. It's going to get crazy in Cuba.
As a side story, and completely unrelated to what's going on now. Before my last trip to Cuba, I asked my main chica that I wanted about one hundred 3 peso CUP's notes. It's the one with Che Guevara picture on it. I had noticed that they were bringing about $15 USD here in the States. When I got to Cuba, she had about one hundred and twenty of the 3 peso notes. She just gave them to me because she knows they are worthless in Cuba. The End.
HarryDubois
01-04-21, 11:34
I want to go, but would like to hear from some people that have been lately. I understand the 3 day quarantine. But is decent food, cold beer available without having any hookups or great Spanish? I have 2 chicas I'm very anxious to see that will quarantine with me.I believe that someone on this site must bite the bullet, take one for the team and make an expeditionary trip to Havana as soon as possible to discover the new world of post covid lockdown: the currency situation, black market rates, food, lodging, everything. Think of it as like being a new Columbus, sailing into the unknown in search of chica treasures. Perhaps the National Geographic Society will sponsor this intrepid explorer?
MidLifeUsa
01-04-21, 17:39
I believe that someone on this site must bite the bullet, take one for the team and make an expeditionary trip to Havana as soon as possible to discover the new world of post covid lockdown: the currency situation, black market rates, food, lodging, everything. Think of it as like being a new Columbus, sailing into the unknown in search of chica treasures. Perhaps the National Geographic Society will sponsor this intrepid explorer?I was in Havana from Dec 24 - Dec 29 // here's a quick report:
Travel:
- Delta is not flying to Havana so took a Delta form ATL. Miami and American from Miami to Havana.
- Paid $32 esh dollar online for covid test* at Havana. Please keep the receipt handy as American airlines* had* no idea of if I paid the fees as the agency which manages Cuba travel at AA does not talk to American system. * I had to show the receipt to avoid repaying.
- American is a fucking ripoff and charges 100 for Havana visa. Paid that in Miami before the check-in process.
- While not required but I had taken a covid test before flying to be on safer side.
Havana Airport.
- After getting off the airport everybody was lined up to get a PCR test. We had to fill up a form (in Spanish)* with the address in Havana and Phone number for casa owner.
- Everyone was wearing mask and even though social distancing was not being followed but I felt safe with a face shield and a mask.
- Immigration check had no issue and took less than 5 min after the PCR test.
- Getting checked in bag took around 15 minutes and in general there was chaos as most of the people in flight were there for meet family for Christmas / new year and lot of bags checked in.
- Getting through custom was easy // they recognized me as a tourist asked me if I had anything to declare and simply asked me to go through green channel.
- Please note that Cuba is not allowing the private car / pick up by casa owner at airport and I had to take a yellow taxi to my casa in old Havana.
- Taxi charged me 30 CUC. I didn't had CUC with me so paid 30 USD.
Quarantine.
- Doctor visited me after I checked in the casa. Apparently there is a 3 day quarantine period in which they are suppose to visit you daily (in the morning) to check the temperature and symptoms while waiting for test results.
- Doctor didn't showed up on day 2 but knocked in the morning on day 3 to check. Plan your day around the doctor visit.
Currency:
- CUC is being phased out and USD is being accepted everywhere.
- In Havana most of the restaurants and cab driver gave me 1:1 rate. I didn't haggle a lot even though I knew the actual is higher.
- I stayed in Guanabo from 26 - 29th and got 1 USD to 1. 40 from a local restaurant called Rico Rico.
Havana / Guanabo and Chicas:
- Everybody wears mask, doesn't matter what time of day. Cuba is safer than states right know in terms of # of cases and people following basic hygiene of masks and hand sanitizer.
- Its depressing to see most of the restaurant and known establishment being closed because of covid.
- As a tourist I never had a issue finding anything I. E water, liquor, food.
- I was staying at Obsipo street and it was practically empty most of the times. Almost no nightlife in old Havana. For most of the local it was life at usual and there was lot more traffic near capitol and behind National hotel where I did saw few tourists.
- Found a black chica on first day while wondering on the streets after few beers.
- She was a fucking ripoff, charged me 40 USD and gave me a handjob after some fingering and other stuff.
- Found a light skin chica while sipping beer at a restaurant called ramp o something in front of main coppelia / theatre.
- Charged me 80 CUC (I paid in USD) for 24 hours. It was more GFE experience. She stayed with me in my apartment, we went for dinner and had 3 -4 sessions between evening, night and morning.
- Moved on Guanabo and spend few days visiting the beach (I thinks its called playa blanca and is much more cleaner than Guanabo beach).
- Met few chicas roaming around the Wi-Fi park, asked them to join me for a beer and then took 2 of them to my casa. Paid 25 wach and few gifts for a threesome.
- I had bought few fits such as lipsticks, perfume, panties etc and gave them as tip to server and chicas during my trip.
- Took a yellow cab back from Guanbo to Airport and paid 40 CUC (around 29 USD).
HarryDubois
01-05-21, 04:13
I was in Havana from Dec 24 - Dec 29 // here's a quick report:
- Met few chicas roaming around the Wi-Fi park, asked them to join me for a beer and then took 2 of them to my casa. Paid 25 wach and few gifts for a threesome.
So it sounds as if prices are similar to a year ago however there are fewer prostitutes, but also fewer tourists, and payment is in cash US dollars not CUC. Also as I understand it, there was no problem with the police harassing girls who are with foreigners and girls were allowed into your rented apartment without problem.
I am wondering if now, since the CUC is gone as of January 1, has the dollar become more valuable and perhaps 1 dollar will be worth what 2 CUC were worth for example.
AmorPorFavor
01-05-21, 06:41
I was in Havana from Dec 24 - Dec 29 // here's a quick report:
Travel:
- Delta is not flying to Havana so took a Delta form ATL. Miami and American from Miami to Havana.
- Paid $32 esh dollar online for covid test* at Havana. Please keep the receipt handy as American airlines* had* no idea of if I paid the fees as the agency which manages Cuba travel at AA does not talk to American system. * I had to show the receipt to avoid repaying.
- American is a fucking ripoff and charges 100 for Havana visa. Paid that in Miami before the check-in process.
- While not required but I had taken a covid test before flying to be on safer side.
Havana Airport.
- After getting off the airport everybody was lined up to get a PCR test. We had to fill up a form (in Spanish)* with the address in Havana and Phone number for casa owner.
- Everyone was wearing mask and even though social distancing was not being followed but I felt safe with a face shield and a mask.
- Immigration check had no issue and took less than 5 min after the PCR test.
- Getting checked in bag took around 15 minutes and in general there was chaos as most of the people in flight were there for meet family for Christmas / new year and lot of bags checked in.
- Getting through custom was easy // they recognized me as a tourist asked me if I had anything to declare and simply asked me to go through green channel.
- Please note that Cuba is not allowing the private car / pick up by casa owner at airport and I had to take a yellow taxi to my casa in old Havana.
- Taxi charged me 30 CUC. I didn't had CUC with me so paid 30 USD.
Quarantine.
- Doctor visited me after I checked in the casa. Apparently there is a 3 day quarantine period in which they are suppose to visit you daily (in the morning) to check the temperature and symptoms while waiting for test results.
- Doctor didn't showed up on day 2 but knocked in the morning on day 3 to check. Plan your day around the doctor visit.
Currency:
- CUC is being phased out and USD is being accepted everywhere.
- In Havana most of the restaurants and cab driver gave me 1:1 rate. I didn't haggle a lot even though I knew the actual is higher.
- I stayed in Guanabo from 26 - 29th and got 1 USD to 1. 40 from a local restaurant called Rico Rico.
Havana / Guanabo and Chicas:
- Everybody wears mask, doesn't matter what time of day. Cuba is safer than states right know in terms of # of cases and people following basic hygiene of masks and hand sanitizer.
- Its depressing to see most of the restaurant and known establishment being closed because of covid.
- As a tourist I never had a issue finding anything I. E water, liquor, food.
- I was staying at Obsipo street and it was practically empty most of the times. Almost no nightlife in old Havana. For most of the local it was life at usual and there was lot more traffic near capitol and behind National hotel where I did saw few tourists.
- Found a black chica on first day while wondering on the streets after few beers.
- She was a fucking ripoff, charged me 40 USD and gave me a handjob after some fingering and other stuff.
- Found a light skin chica while sipping beer at a restaurant called ramp o something in front of main coppelia / theatre.
- Charged me 80 CUC (I paid in USD) for 24 hours. It was more GFE experience. She stayed with me in my apartment, we went for dinner and had 3 -4 sessions between evening, night and morning.
- Moved on Guanabo and spend few days visiting the beach (I thinks its called playa blanca and is much more cleaner than Guanabo beach).
- Met few chicas roaming around the Wi-Fi park, asked them to join me for a beer and then took 2 of them to my casa. Paid 25 wach and few gifts for a threesome.
- I had bought few fits such as lipsticks, perfume, panties etc and gave them as tip to server and chicas during my trip.
- Took a yellow cab back from Guanbo to Airport and paid 40 CUC (around 29 USD).Very interesting. Thanks for the report. I think I will be waiting till this winter to even think about going back. By then I should be vaccinated and hopefully things will be on the mend there.
I was in Havana from Dec 24 - Dec 29 // here's a quick report:
Travel:
- Met few chicas roaming around the Wi-Fi park, asked them to join me for a beer and then took 2 of them to my casa. Paid 25 wach and few gifts for a threesome.
- I had bought few fits such as lipsticks, perfume, panties etc and gave them as tip to server and chicas during my trip.
- Took a yellow cab back from Guanbo to Airport and paid 40 CUC (around 29 USD).Thanks Midlife!
Looks like you got out of town just in time MidLife!
- ADN News, Cuba. Jan, 5, 2021
"Hundreds of passengers remain stranded at Havana's "Jos Mart" International Airport, after several airlines suspended flights following the announcement issued by the Cuban regime about reducing the entry of travelers to the country".
"Cuban Regime"? What's going on here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0LXCF0pSvc
Looks like you got out of town just in time MidLife!
- ADN News, Cuba. Jan, 5, 2021
"Hundreds of passengers remain stranded at Havana's "Jos Mart" International Airport, after several airlines suspended flights following the announcement issued by the Cuban regime about reducing the entry of travelers to the country".
"Cuban Regime"? What's going on here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0LXCF0pSvcAny update on what happened? Lock down? Cuban Regime? They straighten everything out? How long they ground people? Allowing flight in and out now, any and all information would be greatly appreciated,.
Any update on what happened? Lock down? Cuban Regime? They straighten everything out? How long they ground people? Allowing flight in and out now, any and all information would be greatly appreciated,.The infection rate was going up because of Cubans from Florida coming in. They shut it down for the meantime.
Any update on what happened? Lock down? Cuban Regime? They straighten everything out? How long they ground people? Allowing flight in and out now, any and all information would be greatly appreciated,.Hey there RacShack, I went directly to Jose Marti International website, here is todays (January 9, 2021) official arrivals and departure links.
- Arrivals - https://www.havana-airport.org/arrivals.html.
- Departures - https://www.havana-airport.org/departures.html.
Check the status column.
EDIT: I just realized that you can toggle the time of day, it looks like a few flights are trickling in from various places.
Deserted streets of Havana. Sad. I miss the good old days in Havana.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z07cvYd65Wo
Traveling Dom
03-12-21, 18:38
Any of the members here going to Cuba any time soon? Is it still not possible to use US debit cards or credit cards there?
I've been wanting to check out Cuba for a while and still have not gone. I'm handsome {I think} young and normally have no problem with the ladies and the first time I ever gave a woman money was in the past few months. Then I got addicted to the mongering haha.
Anyway, Cuba seems to be up my alley since members here mention you have to put in the work and not be shy, and that's most of the fun for me is talking to the women the real interaction and not just pay to play {which is not something I mind doing now}.
I'm not someone who likes to keep cash on them so would want to hit up the ATM with my US debit if possible on the daily or every other day while I'm there, and if possible, although not necessary at all pay for things with my credit card.
Rebel Monger
03-15-21, 22:36
It looks like you just woke up from a comma or something, I doubt that any airline will sell you a ticket to go there, well they will, only that you won't be able to fly, their Covid cases are going up due to the "government" stupidity and if you set foot on the island, chances are that you'll be sent to a hotel, which you will have to pay and won't be able to leave the place. You had your chances and didn't take advantage, now wait.
As for being your and "attractive," that won't guarantee anything because you're not Cuban, if a Cubana open her legs right after you meet her, chances are that she will want to get pay, for a young, hard "thing", she has plenty to choose from in Cuba.
Any of the members here going to Cuba any time soon? Is it still not possible to use US debit cards or credit cards there?
I've been wanting to check out Cuba for a while and still have not gone. I'm handsome {I think} young and normally have no problem with the ladies and the first time I ever gave a woman money was in the past few months. Then I got addicted to the mongering haha.
Anyway, Cuba seems to be up my alley since members here mention you have to put in the work and not be shy, and that's most of the fun for me is talking to the women the real interaction and not just pay to play {which is not something I mind doing now}.
I'm not someone who likes to keep cash on them so would want to hit up the ATM with my US debit if possible on the daily or every other day while I'm there, and if possible, although not necessary at all pay for things with my credit card.
MongerHunger
03-16-21, 08:57
Any of the members here going to Cuba any time soon? Is it still not possible to use US debit cards or credit cards there?
I've been wanting to check out Cuba for a while and still have not gone. I'm handsome {I think} young and normally have no problem with the ladies and the first time I ever gave a woman money was in the past few months. Then I got addicted to the mongering haha.
Anyway, Cuba seems to be up my alley since members here mention you have to put in the work and not be shy, and that's most of the fun for me is talking to the women the real interaction and not just pay to play {which is not something I mind doing now}.
I'm not someone who likes to keep cash on them so would want to hit up the ATM with my US debit if possible on the daily or every other day while I'm there, and if possible, although not necessary at all pay for things with my credit card.Hahahaha. Seems that you didn't do a lick of research and oblivious that there is a worldwide pandemic going on. Some good advice would be for you to log off this site and then log back in approximately 12 months from now (March 2022). By then, possibly, just maybe possibly something may have changed.
Traveling Dom, if this is your first mongering trip, start in Sosua, DR.
Do more research on this forum, and online in general about where you are planning to go.
Every country is like a different world, with their own tricks of the trade and cultural ways.
KiteRunner1979
04-04-21, 20:34
Can I ask, for those of you messaging prospects ahead of your trips to Havana, where are you finding them? Like if you say "on Facebook" or something, does that mean I can just go in my FB account and search for people and start sending invites? Or is there some other way to do it?Badoo used to be a good place to find local girls ahead of time. Not sure what people are using now, I also wonder.
KiteRunner1979
04-16-21, 20:51
I have a quick question, if you rent an entire place on airbnb. Is there any issues as far as bringing chicas in and out a la Medellin? I used to stay in a place where I didn't have any issues at all, since my buddy is Cuban American and it was his family's house. But this time I will be renting an entire place on airbnb.
I have a quick question, if you rent an entire place on airbnb. Is there any issues as far as bringing chicas in and out a la Medellin? I used to stay in a place where I didn't have any issues at all, since my buddy is Cuban American and it was his family's house. But this time I will be renting an entire place on airbnb.You will have to inquire with the host. With the many times that I have been to Havana, me and my peeps only stay in homes that allow guest. That's why we normally stay at the same casa, and it's a perfect location. We have unlimited chicas and fiestas with no problemos.
KiteRunner1979
04-18-21, 17:34
You will have to inquire with the host. With the many times that I have been to Havana, me and my peeps only stay in homes that allow guest. That's why we normally stay at the same casa, and it's a perfect location. We have unlimited chicas and fiestas with no problemos.I will do that before booking, thanks for the feedback.
MjTravelLove
05-26-21, 20:01
Can anybody say what the state of the chica scene is in Cuba right now? Mainly Havana?
I know Havana well but have not been since before 2020 lockdowns. How is it overall in Havan right now in terms of the lady scene?
MjTravelLove
05-26-21, 20:06
Deserted streets of Havana. Sad. I miss the good old days in Havana.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z07cvYd65WoAny more active now in May / June?
Edye Minetye
06-14-21, 15:32
Part 1.
Booked two days in hotel Parque Central and then my casa particular for 5 days.
Received my 2nd Pfizer injection on May 26th.
Now I could go to Havana reasonably safely and without problems after 15 months for 1 week, I thought.
Have a PCR test taken on June 1.
The results on June 2; negative.
Departed from Amsterdam to Madrid on 3 June with Air Europa.
From there flown on with Air Europa to Havana.
At the gate in Madrid it was chaos and the distance rule was totally neglected.
The passengers stood side by side, almost pressed together.
The plane to Havana was 70% full, I estimate, and departed two hours late because a passenger was not allowed to come and his luggage had to be unloaded.
At Havana airport, I was last in line for the PCR test because I always choose a seat in the back of the plane.
But after half an hour it was my turn. There were 6 or 8 parallel test units set up.
Without any problems through passport control and baggage control.
It was chaos at the baggage claim. People stood side by side here too.
Every Cuban arriving there, in addition to his suitcases, had 5 or 6 plastic-wrapped packages of 0. 5 x0. 5 x05 m.
Lying there on the floor or loading luggage carts, when the package finally passed on the belt.
I estimate I was able to lift my suitcase off the belt after about 20 minutes.
In the direction of customs, a long line of Cubans waited with their carts with their packages until they could clear their goods.
Since I only had a suitcase and a laptop case on top of that, I walked past that row until I got to the head of the row.
There I beckoned to the officer standing there and pointed to my two pieces of luggage.
He opened the ribbon and showed me through to the exit where the customs declaration is to be issued.
Where I also passed the not-so-long line with what little luggage I had with me.
The Cubans didn't mind that they understood my situation.
The woman checking the labels saw that there was no sign on them and let me through.
When the sliding door opened there was another line for a table where people registered.
I had no idea what that was for, but walked past it too.
Outside stood the taxi woman, who pointed me to a taxi driver for the ride to the hotel Parque Central.
I had many CUCs but no moneda national and therefore brought some dollars.
I asked the driver if he would take me to hotel Parque Central for 25 dollars.
Of course he said yes to that.
Afterwards I thought I should have offered him 20 dollars given the low exchange rate on the street.
At 9 pm I was on the doorstep at hotel Parque Central.
Edye Minetye
06-14-21, 18:08
Part 2.
At hotel Parque Central I checked in for 2 nights, and I was given a yellow bracelet as a sign that I was in quarantine at the hotel.
Due to the low occupancy rate of the hotel, I did not have to stay in the room, but I was allowed to stay anywhere in the hotel with a mask obligation.
The next morning I want to exchange my CUCs but they don't do that at the hotel.
They do exchange euros in moneda national, but they do not exchange CUC in moneda national.
So I have to go to the Cadeca.
Went to the roof terrace and also went into the water of the pool, because I was under the impression that this was allowed by the low occupancy of the hotel.
And so early in the morning I was the only hotel guest on the roof terrace and therefore also the only one in the pool.
But the next morning a member of staff walked around and saw me in the water with my yellow bracelet.
He said I was not allowed in the water as a quarantine guest.
Not even if I was the only one in the water.
I showed my face to the hotel's medics due to the results of the coming PCR test.
He stays in a room on the mezina. When he has the results, she calls me on the room phone.
Not on my Cuban number. And I couldn't change that. There's nothing to do about it. It's in her prescription I think.
Because at 4 pm the results of the test had not yet been received, I a third day in the hotel.
I would have liked to book the room on site, and pay in cash, but the receptionist pointed out to me that booking via the internet is much cheaper.
I paid 122 euros via the internet. The price is on site is 5000 cup so about 200 dollars a night.
In retrospect, I think it is unrealistic to expect that a PCR test taken on Thursday at 8 pm Will be available on Saturday at 6 pm.
One must reserve 3 days for this.
I had hoped that the results of the test would be available before 6 pm on Saturday afternoon.
So 48 hours after taking it.
Then I was with 2 nights in the hotel and "a late checkout" on the 2nd day for 25 dollars, was cheaper than 3 nights in the hotel.
But that's too optimistic for Cuba.
Edye Minetye
06-14-21, 19:48
Part3.
Sunday 6 June 4th day.
At half past eight I went to the medical post of the hotel.
The nurse found my name on her list, and she said she was going to call.
At 10 o'clock she called in my room and asked if I could come to her office.
When I got there I was not allowed to enter. She had the result, I was Corona positive.
I did not expect that. It could be a test error, it could also be that I was infected in the crowded Amsterdam-Madrid plane, at the airport in Madrid or on the plane to Havana. That flight takes 9 hours.
Despite the positive test, I felt excellent.
Didn't have a single Corona symptom, probably because I had two vaccinations.
I would be transported by ambulance to a quarantine center.
Sent all my acquaintances a Whatsapp that I have been tested positive and that everything is uncertain.
Showered and lay in bed awaiting the arrival of the ambulance.
About one o'clock the nurse came and I went out through the back door of the hotel.
I appreciate their discretion. LOL.
The ambulance drove to Playa del Este, to the Arenal hotel, which now serves as a quarantine center.
This hotel is located slightly to the east than hotel Atlantico.
A female doctor and a nurse took me to my room, which is quite reasonable.
Recently painted, clean, reasonable bathroom.
The doctor said I would be tested again in 5 days, the 11th of June.
All new patients are retested after a 5 day stay that is the rule.
That's ridiculous I said. I want to be tested tomorrow as I have been vaccinated and have no symptoms.
If I didn't agree with her, I had to talk to the head of the institution tomorrow morning, Monday. But luckily this was not necessary.
Later, the nurse took photos of my passport, my insurance policy, and a photo of my passport right next to my room number on the front door. I thought that was smart.
At 9 pm the nurse came to my door to take my temperature again.
She said I'm having a PCR test tomorrow Monday.
Because my temperature, measured twice as normal, was not elevated, that would have been sufficient reason to do a PCR test early. I think.
Furthermore, I think I am the first fully vaccinated person ever admitted here.
They still have to gain experience with that.
AmorPorFavor
06-15-21, 01:53
Part3.
Sunday 6 June 4th day.
At half past eight I went to the medical post of the hotel.
The nurse found my name on her list, and she said she was going to call.
At 10 o'clock she called in my room and asked if I could come to her office.
When I got there I was not allowed to enter. She had the result, I was Corona positive.
I did not expect that. It could be a test error, it could also be that I was infected in the crowded Amsterdam-Madrid plane, at the airport in Madrid or on the plane to Havana. That flight takes 9 hours.
Despite the positive test, I felt excellent.
Didn't have a single Corona symptom, probably because I had two vaccinations.
I would be transported by ambulance to a quarantine center.
Sent all my acquaintances a Whatsapp that I have been tested positive and that everything is uncertain.
Showered and lay in bed awaiting the arrival of the ambulance.
About one o'clock the nurse came and I went out through the back door of the hotel.
I appreciate their discretion. LOL.
The ambulance drove to Playa del Este, to the Arenal hotel, which now serves as a quarantine center.
This hotel is located slightly to the east than hotel Atlantico.
A female doctor and a nurse took me to my room, which is quite reasonable.
Recently painted, clean, reasonable bathroom.
The doctor said I would be tested again in 5 days, the 11th of June.
All new patients are retested after a 5 day stay that is the rule.
That's ridiculous I said. I want to be tested tomorrow as I have been vaccinated and have no symptoms.
If I didn't agree with her, I had to talk to the head of the institution tomorrow morning, Monday. But luckily this was not necessary.
Later, the nurse took photos of my passport, my insurance policy, and a photo of my passport right next to my room number on the front door. I thought that was smart.
At 9 pm the nurse came to my door to take my temperature again.
She said I'm having a PCR test tomorrow Monday.
Because my temperature, measured twice as normal, was not elevated, that would have been sufficient reason to do a PCR test early. I think.
Furthermore, I think I am the first fully vaccinated person ever admitted here.
They still have to gain experience with that.Thanks for the reports. Sorry about your situation with the test. There are a lot of us hoping to get back to Cuba ASAP. Your experience with the positive test is what is keeping me away from international travel right now. I'm fully vaxxed as well but you can get unlucky with a test. I am holding some CUCs and am wondering if you can spend them anywhere now or if they all have to be exchanged for CUPs? Keep the reports coming bro.
GeneHickman
06-15-21, 07:00
Despite the positive test, I felt excellent.
Furthermore, I think I am the first fully vaccinated person ever admitted here.
They still have to gain experience with that.Sorry about your troubles. Unfortunately even if you test tomorrow it's at least 3 days. The PCRs have little false positive. You likely are having asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic disease due to vaccination. You will also likely clear the virus faster, but even that maybe 5 days as usually it takes 10-14 days. In the trials you wouldn't have been tested and would have been declared as never having got covid. With all this asymptomatic testing, it's a risk for travelling back. The truth is those in your situation hardly shed and likely not very contagious but the CDC seems hesitant to say that and liberate the vaccinated at least.
Which vaccine did you get if you don't mind sharing?
Seeing you are from Europe, I am guessing AZ. The vaccine is doing its job, but it's messing no with your trip Bigly.
Edye Minetye
06-15-21, 10:38
Sorry about your troubles. Unfortunately even if you test tomorrow it's at least 3 days. The PCRs have little false positive. You likely are having asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic disease due to vaccination. You will also likely clear the virus faster, but even that maybe 5 days as usually it takes 10-14 days. In the trials you wouldn't have been tested and would have been declared as never having got covid. With all this asymptomatic testing, it's a risk for travelling back. The truth is those in your situation hardly shed and likely not very contagious but the CDC seems hesitant to say that and liberate the vaccinated at least.
Which vaccine did you get if you don't mind sharing?
Seeing you are from Europe, I am guessing AZ. The vaccine is doing its job, but it's messing no with your trip Bigly.I was vaccinated with Pfizer.
Edye Minetye
06-15-21, 12:01
Part4.
Monday 7 June.
5th day.
Just after 7 o'clock in the morning, the nurse came to take the PCR test. Was painful again.
My name was not quite correct on the bottle. The room number was correct. So not a big problem I guess.
In the afternoon the doctor came to the door and wanted an explanation about my health insurance.
They want to declare their costs directly to my health insurance.
But they are not strong at that.
I already noticed that yesterday, when someone called me from the reception and asked if I was from the Netherlands or from New Zealand.
Not completely stupid, because Zeeland is a province in the Netherlands. LOL.
They will not be able to declare directly from abroad.
Our insurance companies are not equipped for this.
We the customers declare our bills by opening the insurance app, taking a picture of the bill and sending it via the app. I don't see them doing that from Cuba yet.
Decided to pay their bill in cash and declare it to my insurance myself.
The doctor thanked me. I hope this gives me something.
I got my first bill yesterday.
It concerned the ambulance ride from hotel Parque Central to this hotel. The cost is 840 cup.
A bit more expensive than the comparable taxi ride.
It used to cost 25 CUC /600 cup from Havana to Playa del este.
Tonight, when the nurse came to take my temperature, the door of the hotel room next door opened at the same time and someone started coughing.
I did not see the person, but heard from his cough that he was quite ill.
Never in my life I heard someone have such a bad cough.
I understand that this is difficult for non-Dutch people.
My country is called the Netherlands. (The Low Countries) but is known all over the world as Holland. Because their inhabitants "The Duch" sailed the oceans.
Remember, they bought the land from the Native Americans that is now Manhattan and called it New Amsterdam.
This Holland still exists, is in my county also a province.
Edye Minetye
06-15-21, 19:32
I don't know how to present an optimally readable report here.
When I upload my report, with white lines, it appears as a continuous story.
Without a resting point for the reader, without paragraphs.
If I add a * mean as a note to the story, as further explanation that * is not in the final version here on the page.
In this report I no more preview the report. See if it is better.
Day 6.
June 8 Tuesday.
Part 5 a.
Because I was to travel back to my home country the day after tomorrow on June 10, and I have to submit a PCR test there not older than 72 hours, I should have that test taken in Sibony today.
Of course that won't work if I'm quarantined here.
That's why I called Air Europa to report my illness and cancel Thursday's trip.
The lady said I need to photograph proof that I have Corona and email the photo to their designated email address. Then I get 90 days, within which I can make this trip again.
That could be next Sunday. Then I have a few extra days in Havana.
But I have no proof that I was Corona positive.
When I left the hotel Parque Central, the medical service in the hotel did not give me a document with the test result: "Corona Positive."
Called the reception of this quarantine hotel and explained my problem, and asked if this document can be made for me here.
The woman said she can make a document, I am Corona free today.
(She apparently knew the result of the 2nd test, but did not go into it).
This means that I could fly home on Thursday anyway.
Perhaps this is for the best, then there is no need to change things at Air Europa.
Not changing usually causes fewer problems than changing.
At about 11 o'clock the reception called that I can leave the center. I got no explanation and not asked for that either. That makes no sense. They can say whatever they want.
I think the test taken here yesterday was Corona negative, and the vaccine did its job after I got on the plane to Madrid (2 hours, completely full) or to Havana (9 hours and 70% full), was infected, or at Madrid airport.
I packed my suitcase and went to the reception to pay the bill. All in all about 300 euros.
Paid in moneda national after I exchanged enough euros at the reception.
Called the owner of my casa particular but he did not respond.
He must be at or at the house when I arrive by taxi.
I don't feel like waiting half a day in front of his house with my bags on the street.
At 3 pm he called me back and I ordered a taxi for Havana at the reception.
It was a private person so an illegal taxi and the price was 880 pesos, the man said.
That price is ridiculous. Playa del este to Havana used to be 25 CUC is now 600 pesos.
He wanted almost 1.5 times the price, with 20 pesos less, so the amount didn't seem high.
He is probably an acquaintance of the receptionist.
She lets him earn something late and gets half of that, I think.
I was able to negotiate the price down to 720 pesos. He didn't go any lower.
Sending him away and ordering another taxi was not an option.
The dueno of my casa was waiting for me. Half an hour later I was in Havana.
Edye Minetye
06-16-21, 13:00
Part 5 b.
My former casa is closed due to Corona, but the new casa is comparable in quality.
It has been refurbished not long ago, and has a very nice bathroom and kitchen.
The most beautiful kitchen, and bathroom I've ever seen in Cuba in a casa.
The bathroom has a more than beautiful toilet bowl and a rain shower.
I didn't know that such beautiful things are for sale here in Cuba.
In the living room a very large TV for Cuban standards.
I had booked the casa for one night through AIRBNB for 42 euros.
I stay two nights, and for the second night the owner asked 35 euros "En efectivo".
That price is the same as that of my previous casa, and that was also a completely free casa for myself.
And now finally a casa with a balcony.
Showered, changed clothes, and took a tour of Havana Viega.
All bars and cafes are closed and as far as I could see only hotel Parque Central and hotel Manzana are open. Perhaps also Hotel Inglaterra.
I read earlier on a forum that there is almost no beer in Havana.
In San Rafael I saw a couple drinking beer on the street.
The man said he had bought the beer at the shop across the street. In there. I saw a pellet with trays of cans Cristal. About one cubic meter. So a reasonable amount.
Unfortunately, the saleswoman pointed me to the 50-60 persons line across the street that I saw earlier, but I didn't know it belonged to this store. Unfortunately.
In the Cadeca in the Obispo exchanged my CUCs for moneda national.
Walked to Lucero. When I drove by there this afternoon by taxi, I saw people on the terrace. The waiter I know said I could sit down but there wasn't a drop of beer in the place.
Back to my house. In Consulado I passed hotel Lido that was open. At least the front door.
In this small hotel I used to buy my beer for 1,5 CUC. But now there was no beer for sale here either. Beer would be there next week, the man said. But then I'll be home.
Unpacked my suitcase in the casa. There were only 4 hangers of bent steel wire in the closet.
I must not forget to buy 10 clothes hangers at home and take them with me next time.
Hungr. Walked to hotel Parque Central to eat.
I ate a steak on the roof terrace of the hotel. That's good there, but when ordering downstairs at the bar, I forgot to say I wanted it "well done", I got it sangrand.
The price including a refresco lime was 510 pesos.
Walked through Havana Viega again. Down in Calle Brazil, near Plaza Viega, a lad was selling Cristal beer. He had 2 glass-fronted refrigerators filled to the top with the familiar green cans. That was a beautiful sight.
I asked the price, 100 pesos per can. Expensive for Cubans, and not worth it to me.
I didn't have that much craving for beer. Buy rum tomorrow.
This beer is more expensive in this store than in hotel Parque Central where a can costs 85 pesos.
On the Plaza Viega two beautiful chicas that gave me a signal. They looked deep into my eyes.
Filling the bath with cold water at home to cool my feet.
Walked a lot today, I felt some blisters coming up under feet and toes.
Going to sleep. Wake up at 2 am. Updated this story.
Edye Minetye
06-16-21, 20:06
Part 6 a.
June 9 Wednesday.
At 7 am YMN called, I didn't quite understand what he was saying. Like all Cubans, he talks very fast.
I think he confirmed that our appointment is at 11 am.
YMN is the brother in law of my ex novia, YSR.
When I broke up with YSR in January of this year, I asked him to find me some girls who were as beautiful and slim as YSR, and from which I could choose my new novia.
At 7 o'clock in the morning a lot of people are already lining up down here in the street. I don't know what's for sale there.
An old woman had brought her small wooden bench. She knew what awaited her.
At eight o'clock the connecting line was across the street.
YMN called again he only has 2 girls left for me to choose from.
Walked to Galiano at 9 am to buy coke, refresco, hugo and rum.
The corner shop at the bottom of Galiano was still closed.
The women inside, motioned for me to leave.
Talked to a man who said the store is no longer a regular store, it is now a dollar store.
Went to Asturia and bought 6 Coke, 6 Refresco and a bottle of rum. Hugo wasn't there. Carried home the heavy bag in the heat.
By 10 am I was home end I called the money changer, he said he would be there at 11 am.
At 11 o'clock YMN will also come with the first chica.
I stood on the balcony for a while and then I saw a lad with a chica approaching downstairs. The chica was in blue. Blue skirt with loose top.
They passed the house.
The chica next to him was quite nice but didn't meet my requirements 100%.
She wasn't slim enough and, in fact, not pretty enough.
I thought, if Yasmany introduced her to me, I'd turn her down.
After some phone calls he was at the door at half past eleven with this chica.
They drank Refresco and Coke. Then the money changer called.
Thrown the key down again, but it took a very long time before he was upstairs.
Walked down myself. Where he just opened the door.
I ordered moneda national from him online.
I wanted to exchange 400 euros, and he gives 75 cup for one euro. So he has to give me 30,000 cup.
But he didn't have the 150,200-peso bills I requested, but everything mixed up.
Also large denominations. Including 3 of 1000 cup. He took a picture of them before giving them to me.
He counted all 30,000 cups down there behind the front door and handed me the stack.
I said I didn't have time to count it. We would have to settle any difference. But the amount was right down to the last peso.
Talked some more with the chica and eventually they left with YMN.
YMN called me a little later and asked what I thought of the chica.
I said I found her too timid. Not lively enough.
I know these kind of chicas, they sit next to you in the pub for hours without saying or suggesting anything.
I felt no chemistry with her and neither did she with me, I could see that.
Edye Minetye
06-16-21, 20:28
Part 6 b.
June 9 Wednesday.
He was back pretty quickly with the 2nd chica. It met almost all my requirements.
She was 4 years too old but I didn't mind.
She has a nice hollow back above her small well proportioned ass.
She is just as beautiful from the back as she is from the front. And it's a cat, which I prefer.
The chica also found me acceptable because she wanted to stay with me right away.
Have given to YMN the promised 50 euros. He smiled broadly when he saw the note.
I had agreed this amount with him if he would bring me a chica that met all my requirements.
Now I still have to pay him 5 x 30 euros the next times I'm in Cuba, if this chica is still with me.
I promised him 200 euros if he would find my perfect chica for me.
Beautiful, young, slim, tall, without children and without a novio.
Finding the perfect chica myself takes too much time.
Cuban men know every girl in their neighborhood. That goes faster.
Walked to town with her to eat and drink something on the roof terrace of hotel Parque Central.
The doorman said the roof terrace was closed.
Not yesterday.
When I asked if we could have a drink at the bar downstairs he said the bar was also closed to non-guests.
Walked to hotel Manzana where the roof terrace was overflowing with people, I had seen it from the park.
In the lounge of the hotel was an official with a paper with names.
He said the roof terrace was full. Allowed to exceed 50 maximum customers and that number was reached.
The names on his paper were the people who had reserved for later in the afternoon.
I saw that the last reservation was at 8 pm. The curfew starts at 9 pm.
Wandered through the sweltering city with my chica. Everywhere all the pubs were closed.
Finally she too realized that everything we did was in vain, and she wanted to eat a pizza.
We bought in San Rafael close to Galiano. Two pizzas 560 pesos. Eaten at home, very tasty.
A few pesos extra had to be paid for the box, which is slightly more expensive than the cardboard the pizzas are normally served on. My novia paid for that.
That is a good sign, it is rare that a chica pays something.
It's only a small amount. But the fact that she doesn't knock on my door for a trifle shows her character. She does not belong to the large group of the chica type; "Milking Yumas".
After dinner my chica wanted to sleep. Me too, and we went to. Haven't started having sex yet.
It did warm her up a bit by stroking her rhythmically, to which she responded well.
Got up at 7 pm. I was ready for alcohol.
For lack of beer, drank the white rum with ice. Wasn't bad.
Later we sat on the balcony my and my sweetheart.
A glass fell down on the street from the wall.
To bed by midnight. Very good and long sex with her.
The great thing about Cuba is that the young girls have no problem hanging out with old men.
They treat us like we're their age.
In the morning after waking up, warm her up a bit, by stroking her rhythmically.
That worked after 10 minutes. Then she let herself penetrate without preservativa.
This went difficulty, without the help of lubricante.
The fact that she didn't require a preservative is a very good sign, I think.
I don't think she lied yesterday when she said she doesn't have a novio.
Edye Minetye
06-17-21, 16:27
Part 7.
Got up on time because at 8 o'clock the owner of my former casa would bring me my bag with things.
In that bag I keep things of little value but that are still too heavy to carry in my suitcase to Cuba every time, so leave it in my casa.
At 10 am my fiancé left because she had to work.
Gave her $50. Is a few dollars more than I give to chicas who have been with me for one day.
I give chicas $45 for the 1st day, $30 for the second and third days, $25 for the fourth, fifth and sixth days, and $20 for the seventh day. Makes $200 for a week of company.
It is not expensive for 10-12 times sex.
I used to pay in CUC but pay her now in dollars.
No moneda national because it has too little value at the moment.
I let her take advantage of the high dollar value and don't want to take this advantage myself.
I am a bastard, not an asshole".
At the door the last kiss.
"Regresaré el 1 de julio".
"No mires en los ojos a otros turistas".
Nice try, but this is Cuba.
I might as well ask a dog not to bark.
Walked to hotel Parque Central to check again if I could enter. No, the hotel was only open to guests.
To hotel Manzana to have a drink on the roof terrace.
The man in the lounge asked if I had a credit card with me to pay.
Cash is not accepted in the hotel due to Corona.
No, I didn't have a credi card with me. I've never needed that in Cuba until now, for bars and restaurants.
I didn't feel like picking up the card at my casa, because of the heat on the street.
Back to my casa and lay down on the bed.
With this heat, it is best to try to get some sleep with air conditioning on at 12 noon.
At 4 o'clock I woke up, and it was time to pack my suitcase.
At 6 pm the taxi would come that the propietario of the casa had ordered for me.
It was right on time and so was the cloudburst. The water fell in buckets from the sky.
Luckily I didn't have to look for a taxi on the street now.
The driver was an acquaintance of the propietario.
On arrival at the airport, in front of the sliding door, there was again that inevitable line for a table, which I didn't know why travelers were standing there for.
So I didn't know whether to join in or walk past.
When I came closer and they saw my red European passport, they motioned for me to continue.
Apparently only for Cubans.
Air Europa was already checking in.
There were about 30 people in line for the counters, which were well occupied with 10 people.
Without any problems through passport control and baggage control.
In the shop behind the customs one can now only pay in dollars, not in euros or peso.
Air Europa departed on time and was also on time in Madrid, the next day.
At 3 pm I took the plane to Amsterdam.
At 6 pm I took the train to my town.
At 9 pm "Home sweet home".
Edye Minetye
06-17-21, 19:45
Final comments.
In January 2021, the Corona situation in Cuba deteriorated dramatically.
After the holidays, the number of infections got out of hand.
Measures against Corona were tightened again and then they remained strict. Particularly in Havana.
Visiting Cuba was discouraged on the internet.
People wrote:
Individual tourism is not recommended.
The tourist must be quarantined in a hotel for two days on arrival and must remain in his room.
Empty racks in the shops and long lines in front of the shops.
Some advised taking food with you.
So that no time is wasted with long waiting in front of shops.
No bar, disco and restaurant is open.
There is no music anywhere.
There is a strict curfew from 9 PM to 5 AM.
With a fine of 2000 pesos for Cubans (and 2000 dollars for foreigners).
They wrote: Cuba has completely changed, and also, Cuba has never been so unattractive.
After I was vaccinated I wanted to go to Cuba because a vague acquaintance had searched and found three, later 2, fiancées for me.
Now that I've been there, I can confirm that all the negatives on the internet are completely correct.
Visiting Havana as an individual tourist is possible, but at the moment only in hotels. Casa give more problems. However, it remains possible.
The depreciation of the Cuban peso has made Cuba much cheaper.
On the street, the value of the euro is 75 pesos and the value of the dollar is 67 pesos at the moment.
The official rate is 22 pesos since January 1.
It is best to search the internet for hard currency buyers.
That's easier than on the street.
Pesos are offered on "Revolico".
Download the app.
Go to: buy Sell = Compra Venta.
Choose: Divisas.
Choose a province or city.
Search = Buscar.
Click an ad.
Note the phone number.
Send that person a Whatsapp in Spanish. Translate with Google.
Write when you are in Cuba and the date you want to exchange your money and how much.
Send him the address of your casa later.
In one of my reports I wrote that the price of my hotel room was more expensive in moneda national than on the internet.
The receptionist advised me to book the room on the internet.
This is true, and also not true. The room is more expensive if you pay with peso from the Cadeca.
If one pays with peso from the street. The room is half cheaper than on the internet.
The casa owners want to be paid in dollars or euros.
I also wrote that I pay my novia in dollars. I grant her this advantage.
I don't think this is necessary for chicas picked up on the street or (in the future) in bars.
I don't know how much money these chicas are asking now.
Before the year 2021, their price was usually around 30 and 40 CUC.
Thirty and forty CUC are now 30 x 22=660 peso and 880 peso.
I wouldn't pay more than 1000 peso.
After all, there is no correlation between expensive and good sex.
Due to the abolition of the CUC, Cuba is currently 50% and more cheaper for tourists.
However, hotels, restaurants, bars, taxis, shops are only cheaper with money bought from from private individuals.
For the sake of clarity I would like to mention that anyone entering Cuba must present a PCR test no older than 72 hours.
He must also be able to show a hotel reservation for 2 nights in a hotel.
Some hotels seem to no longer give reservations for 2 nights.
Their minimum is 5 nights.
At this point I have to advise people not to travel to Cuba.
Everything is closed, and Cuba is unrecognizable.
However, I will fly again on July 1.
First three days in quarantine in a hotel. Two days of quarantine is not feasible I think.
In practice, it takes 3 days before the results of the PCR test at the airport is received at the hotel.
Then two days with my fiancé in a hotel, and finally 2 days in my casa.
I let the casa owner earn something too.
CrowExplorer
06-18-21, 06:18
Thank you for all the reports and updates Edye Minetye. Glad someone who had boots on the ground in Cuba took the time to let everyone know the state of things there now.
AmorPorFavor
06-20-21, 05:13
Its very hard to figure out exactly what's going on in Cuba right now. Your reports were very helpful. Looks like it will be a while before things get back to normal, if ever, but at least it will be even cheaper for us. I likely won't even think about it until the end of the year. I miss my smoking hot chica though.
What's going on in Cuba? People are in the streets? Dogs and cats sleeping together? What's is up?
I promised him 200 euros if he would find my perfect chica for me.
Beautiful, young, slim, tall, without children and without a novio.
Beautiful and without novio could be only prostitutes))).
At 10 am my fianc left because she had to work.
In Cuba work begins at 7 am, not at 10 a. M, your prostitute just got the money and wanted leave you ASAP.
Then she let herself penetrate without preservativa.
This went difficulty, without the help of lubricante.
The fact that she didn't require a preservative is a very good sign, I think
The fact that she did not require a preservative and she was not wet are the signs that she is professional prostitute and she does not care about safety. I think now you have to take not only COVID test.
Anyway, thank you for report. It is good and has useful details in spite that the author is from the moon.
Rebel Monger
08-10-21, 20:55
Beautiful and without novio could be only prostitutes))).
In Cuba work begins at 7 am, not at 10 a. M, your prostitute just got the money and wanted leave you ASAP.
The fact that she did not require a preservative and she was not wet are the signs that she is professional prostitute and she does not care about safety. I think now you have to take not only COVID test.
Anyway, thank you for report. It is good and has useful details in spite that the author is from the moon.You are very cruel, right on the spot but cruel, the man was feeling so special and you had to wake him up!
That "beautiful and without a "novio" was very funny, in my experience it would be hard to find in Cuba an ugly one without a man!
Rebel Monger
08-10-21, 20:58
What's going on in Cuba? People are in the streets? Dogs and cats sleeping together? What's is up?My people just woke up and decided that they want to be free, they want the mafia gone.
One Eyed Man
08-11-21, 03:56
Dogs and cats sleeping together? What's is up?At least I got the Steve Martin reference.
Uncle Volodya
08-12-21, 13:33
Final comments.
However, I will fly again on July 1.
.Thanks for the great report. Never mind the trolls. You had a great time, though sorry ti was cut short by a positive eCovid test.
Did you get back on July 1? How did your trip go?
You are very cruel, right on the spot but cruel, the man was feeling so special and you had to wake him up!I knew a few naive men whose lives were destroyed by Cuban girls. He so idealizes Cuban prostitutes that he as well as anyone who think that I am too cruel, is the next for sure.
Chayachecker
08-13-21, 07:10
I knew a few naive men whose lives were destroyed by Cuban girls. He so idealizes Cuban prostitutes that he as well as anyone who think that I am too cruel, is the next for sure.Truth well Told! I am sick of this, nosotros todas no son iguales." Have been traveling to Cuba frequently since 1996, they all lie, they are all playing games and cheating the Yuma is the favourite sport now on Cuba. Talking pre-COVID, perhaps the singado virus brings back some respect.
Rebel Monger
08-14-21, 21:17
I knew a few naive men whose lives were destroyed by Cuban girls. He so idealizes Cuban prostitutes that he as well as anyone who think that I am too cruel, is the next for sure.The "cruel thing" was like sarcasm, nothing else!
Edye Minetye
09-05-21, 08:02
Truth well Told! I am sick of this, nosotros todas no son iguales." Have been traveling to Cuba frequently since 1996, they all lie, they are all playing games and cheating the Yuma is the favourite sport now on Cuba. Talking pre-COVID, perhaps the singado virus brings back some respect.Cheating the yuma was, is, and always will be, the favorite sport in Cuba.
Remember that in the pecking order the yuma stands lower than the lowest Cuban.
The yuma is not a human being, not a person, he is nothing more than a purse of money.
I have written here before that when you arrive in Cuba you have to leave your heart at Immigration to pick it up again when you leave.
Lost is the yuma who falls in love with Cuban girl and starts loving her.
Edye Minetye
09-05-21, 08:19
Thanks for the great report. Never mind the trolls. You had a great time, though sorry ti was cut short by a positive eCovid test.
Did you get back on July 1? How did your trip go?Thank you Uncle, for the positive comment.
The trolls don't bother me.
They were in Cuba maybe 20 times.
I was there 57 times in Cuba, now 58 times and I know the sound of the Cuban whip.
As if I don't know, for example, what time the Cubans go to work. Haha.
I went back in August.
The difference with June is that the tourist now has to quarantine for 6-7 days.
That is now the same as for Cubans who come to visit relatives in Cuba.
Upon arrival at the airport one gets the 1st PCR test.
Then to the hotel where he will have a 2nd PCR test after 5 days.
The result comes on day 6 or 7 and he can leave the hotel if the result is negative.
Cuban experts,
I have been messaging a few of these Chicas last week or so, they seem very sweet and the back on forth on messenger is well. Then they drop a request for a recarga citing their financial hardship. Is that some sort of scam, hassle or a true request?
Of course I declined saying I haven't met you. But I am just wondering if any others have had that experience.I have been whatsapping for the past few years with a chica in Habana I met back in 2005. She regularly sends me nude photos and videos so recharging her phone does not bother me.
Just to illustrate, some of her early photos.
I have been whatsapping for the past few years with a chica in Habana I met back in 2005. She regularly sends me nude photos and videos so recharging her phone does not bother me.
HarryDubois
09-21-21, 04:35
Cuban experts,
I have been messaging a few of these Chicas last week or so, they seem very sweet and the back on forth on messenger is well. Then they drop a request for a recarga citing their financial hardship. Is that some sort of scam, hassle or a true request?
Of course I declined saying I haven't met you. But I am just wondering if any others have had that experience.During the lockdown I was really bored and lonely. So I collected a bunch of very sexy Cuban facebook friends. Every single one asked for recharges or after about ten minutes they were not interested in continuing to chat. So you just have to decide. Do you want to send about 60 euros a week of recharges in exchange for a lot of nude and sexy photos and videos and sex chatting, I guess it's like an onlyfans type of relationship, or not. Video chatting I have found is barely possible from Cuba depending on how good a signal the girl has however I have succeeded a few times.
At this point, I am hoping that COVID travel restrictions will drop worldwide within the next year, this cannot go on forever, so I am no longer doing recharges. I calculate that 3000 euros a year could pay for some very exciting real in person vacations instead of the online sex.
During the lockdown I was really bored and lonely. So I collected a bunch of very sexy Cuban facebook friends. Every single one asked for recharges or after about ten minutes they were not interested in continuing to chat. So you just have to decide. Do you want to send about 60 euros a week of recharges in exchange for a lot of nude and sexy photos and videos and sex chatting, I guess it's like an onlyfans type of relationship, or not. Video chatting I have found is barely possible from Cuba depending on how good a signal the girl has however I have succeeded a few times.
At this point, I am hoping that COVID travel restrictions will drop worldwide within the next year, this cannot go on forever, so I am no longer doing recharges. I calculate that 3000 euros a year could pay for some very exciting real in person vacations instead of the online sex.Wow, you must be doing a lot of chatting with multiple girls. My damage is about US $25 (approx EUR22) a month for recharging.
RamDavidson84
09-24-21, 23:16
I have been to Colombia, DR, and Mexico several times each. I enjoy all countries a lot, but I prefer Colombia and Mexico to DR. How does Cuba compare to these places? What do you think Cuba will be like once it reopens? I May plan a trip for later this year.
Muzungufotsy
09-25-21, 07:10
During the lockdown I was really bored and lonely. So I collected a bunch of very sexy Cuban facebook friends. Every single one asked for recharges or after about ten minutes they were not interested in continuing to chat. So you just have to decide. Do you want to send about 60 euros a week of recharges in exchange for a lot of nude and sexy photos and videos and sex chatting, I guess it's like an onlyfans type of relationship, or not. Video chatting I have found is barely possible from Cuba depending on how good a signal the girl has however I have succeeded a few times.
At this point, I am hoping that COVID travel restrictions will drop worldwide within the next year, this cannot go on forever, so I am no longer doing recharges. I calculate that 3000 euros a year could pay for some very exciting real in person vacations instead of the online sex.Who pays for naked pics and vids when it s free all over internet? Pfff you don't even know who you chat with maybe her pimp BF who uses the money you sent him to fuck his GF. Onlyfans is for losers only. I never sent any money to these scammer girls. I pay after I fuck them else they can get lost.
Who pays for naked pics and vids when it s free all over internet? Pfff you don't even know who you chat with maybe her pimp BF who uses the money you sent him to fuck his GF. Onlyfans is for losers only. I never sent any money to these scammer girls. I pay after I fuck them else they can get lost.Exactly! I don't get it, why pay for some alleged females naked photos, when they are free all over the net. Pay when sex duty is done, and keep it moving.
ProbzProbz
09-29-21, 07:41
I have been to Colombia, DR, and Mexico several times each. I enjoy all countries a lot, but I prefer Colombia and Mexico to DR. How does Cuba compare to these places? What do you think Cuba will be like once it reopens? I May plan a trip for later this year.Cuba is much cheaper than the places you mentioned. You can find girls for 20 CUC. Buy perfumes, earrings and accessories for them. It will be worth than the money.
Not in Havana though. You have to visit smaller cities.
Rebel Monger
10-02-21, 19:10
Cuba is much cheaper than the places you mentioned. You can find girls for 20 CUC. Buy perfumes, earrings and accessories for them. It will be worth than the money.
Not in Havana though. You have to visit smaller cities.Maybe you haven't been to Cuba in a long time, they don't use CUC anymore, just CUP.
And no, dollar is king, but they won't complaint if you give them something on top of the money, but thinking that you can "get that" in exchange for perfume and earrings, I don't think so. We are not in the 90's anymore!
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