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Hi everyone,
I want to share my first visit to Havana Cuba with the forum. My experience seems to be a sum of the bits and pieces of all the previous posts I have read here. This report is probably most useful to people (especially Americans) who have not gone to Cuba yet but would like to. I am an American and flew in to Nassau and bought a ticket to Havana at the Cubana ticket counter. To my surprise, it was no big deal. I walked up showed them my U.S.A. passport and paid the $220 and they gave me ticket and a tourist visa. One thing, sometimes they only have small planes on some days and you might have to spend a night in Nassau. The flight is about an hour, on the ground at the customs, they will ask you where you will be staying at a hotel or casa particular. The Cuban official wanted me to show him a print out of my reservation. I explained to him that I had not made a reservation yet, but I would be staying in Vedado. He did not make too much of it and said, "Welcome to Cuba." And do not worry. he only stamps the tourist Visa and not the Passport. Thank goodness. Well, I stayed 13 days in Havana at a casa particular for $30 dollars a day. I had no problems with bringing in girls. The owner said," No problema." I did a lot of walking and saw all of Vedado. First day, walked to Coppelia park(this is next to Habana Libre the hotel) a place famous for ice cream for tourists and Cubans alike. I picked up a spanish girl and her friend a black spanish girl. They were waiting for the bus. I looked at them and I saw her eyes light up with excitement. I motioned for her to come to me and the spanish girl did. She asked me in Spanish, if I had a girl friend and where I was staying. I speak spanish and I replied. The three of us took a cab and went to my casa. They actually talked prices first. They wanted 20 U.S. for each, I said yes. In short, Cubanas fuck very well,GFE, they take pride in their abilities. I was kissing one, while the other was giving a great blow job, I almost screamed out loud. I fucked for about 2 hours, alot of doggy. They almost gave up, because my stamina that day was good. The spanish girl finally got me off with her mouth and hands. It was a very good first cubana experience. By the way, they both said they were 18 years old. They could have been younger. Watch out, these girls always want a gift, a "regalo." So, hide anything you do not want to give away. They even want condoms. I saw 7 girls in total. I had the knockout pro, the seasoned escort, couple of regular girls, and a girl friend type. I paid as high as 70 dollars for all day to low as 15 dollars for a good 2 hours of enthusiastic sex and a good conversation. All the girls were pretty and ages 18-22. Next time, I will pay 15 to 20 dollars because you will find girls that are cool with it. Once you find a girl that is cool with 20 bucks ask her to hook you up with her friends. Warning, I f a Cuban male comes to chat with you, it is because he wants to hustle for a free meal, a mojito ( a drink with rum, or make a commission somehow. I had a future Doctor and lawyers from Habana University scam me. Well, it is a scam because you will end up paying for everything. They do not even have taxi fare. For me that was alright in the beginning, but they will say all sort of lies to you because you are a tourist. But, I was well informed because I had many of the previous posts on Cuba. Yes, the Lies really made me sick. Well, went to Casa De La Musica on thurday night. I was solicited to go by an Italian looking gentleman dressed very well, wearing a watch better than mine right inside Hotel Melia Cohiba while he was talking to the policia. Cuba like every is full of Hypocrisies. Everything is legal, depends where and by whom. Cuba is a safe place, policia every where. They even have undercover kops. Hell, I saw almost all of them try and pick up the working girls to. Do not worry , the policia sees you as the cash cow and will leave you alone. They know a single Tourist male is looking for sex. Well, Casa De la Musica in Miramar, a city close to Vedado is a must go. Pay 3 dollars for Taxi from Vedado. Taxi guys sometime do not turn on there meter and hope you will overpay. Remember the only way a Cuban can get U.S. dollars is from a Tourist. Their peso currency is worthless. But, all in all their scams are petty. I can respect poor people, but I dislike Liars rich or poor. I am new to this travel and P2P. In Casa De La Musica, There is a stage where salsa group will play and about 20, Young girls , 19-20, beautiful 9 to 10's. REally. They walk around looking for tourist with money. I have high standards myself. It was out of sight for me. Cubanas can dance and will shake that ass with the best to fuck you for cash. In summary, Cuba has beautiful girls, great live salsa bands, the girls are clean because they have socialized medicine and is a very interesting place. I plan to visit Cuba again many times in the future as I have made contacts with girls. The Cons are that the Food sucks at the local places. Except, at certain tourist restaurants that cost 25 doll. for lobster. One advice, do not be too nice to the girls, in term of money because their game is to squeeze the cash cow for what they can get. They will always end up going home with more than the agreed upon money. They know this all temporary. For Americans, on my way in to the U.S. through Nassau the U.S customs guy did not ask me if I had been anywhere else besides the bahamas. But, I think he knew. He looked at the stamps at the back of my passport. It had two entry stamps in to the Bahamas. So, you figure that out? But, I think they really do not care. Unless, you tell them. Ciao. I tried to post a pic, but too many bytes.
Montrealer
05-11-04, 12:25
Nice review, but please use paragraphs next time. It's tough on the eyes.
Any news on Varadero's scene?
WickedWilly
05-11-04, 13:26
I am looking for some advice from you Cuba experts.
I will be there for two weeks at the end of the month half in Havana, half in Varadero. The catch is I am with the GF so playing away will be difficult. I may be able to get away for a few hours, so would like some advice for the best places to get a quick pick-up if possible. I will be staying in the centre of Havana near the Parque Central
I would also like to know where the best clubs to dance salsa with locals are at the moment. I want to dance with locals not tourists, there is absolutely no substitute for a Cuban chica when dancing salsa!
Thanks
WW
El Cubanito
05-11-04, 16:09
WickedWilly,
The report by Your Dog, tells you where you can pick up girls without any problems. But you the quickest way pickup will be girls are standing by the entrace of the Tunnel in Havana Central. You will be able to pick up nice good looking girls there. I have in the past.
Your Dog, excellent report and it looks like you had a great time in Cuba. I am leaving in two weeks also on May 27 for Cuba. I to am a United State Citizen, but will be traveling to Cuba legally.
WickedWilly, want to meet in Cuba?
El Cubanito
Was in Cuba last year and had a great fun. This year I was thinking to go either again or to the DR, and eventually decided to go back to Havana.
I will be there on the 29th for a week.
El Cubanito, WickedWilly - would like to hook up while there?!
Last time I stayed in a great casa with a private entry, chica friendly and great home food. Only down side was the location in a quite place (not far away from plaza de la revulocion) which was fine, but too far from the action.
Can someone recomand a good (25-30USD) casa in Vieja, chica friendly and with private entrance? I would also like to get a private car and a driver this time, so if someone had a good experiance I would appriciate the contacs.
Cheers,
S.
Organicgrowth
05-11-04, 21:21
Gentlemen,
Its only out of turning green with envy that I write this! All the regular Cuba “Masters” are in Havana over the next 8 weeks and I’m stuck in the rains of Europe, still waiting for my holiday dates…
Have an excellent time El Cubanito & DocBill.
Regards, Havanaman
El Cubanito
05-12-04, 14:12
Doc, is laready down in Cuba. I have tried sending him an email to seee what is going on in Cuba, but have not heard nothing. I try calling yesterday but could not get thru.
El Cubanito
WickedWilly
05-13-04, 16:38
El Cubanito,
Thanks for the info on the tunnel If I get the chance I will try.
Guys I would normally love to meet up but as I am with GF may prove difficult! However we can try. Can send me a message with your e-mail and I will let you know when I am in Cuba, by return.
WW
El Cubanito
05-14-04, 14:57
WickedWilly,
I sent you a PM.
Hey Doc, If you see this let us know what is going on in Cuba. I would like to know.
El Cubanito
Hi, fellow mongerers,
any news on the situation today over there? My people tell me about hundreds protesting (unorganised) in the streets, and a great political unease underneath the surface, more than normal. Has the bearded one died? Is there a worse situation than before? What´s happening???
later...
Snark:
I'm a bit of a news junkie so I know why there were protests. The US gov't recently released a report outlining ideas to end Castro's regime. Mind you, every administration since Fidel took power did this, so this isn't a Bush-ism. One idea was to curb the flow of $$$ to Cuba from families living here in the States. Fidel didn't like the idea so he ceased the use of the dollar in Cuba. Many Cubans were flabbergasted by the sudden devaluing of their main currency and want to know why. Well...using the time-tested method of deflecting blame, you get protests against the US policy.
On a side note: isn't it ironic that Cuba, a communist country, needs the currency of a capitalist nation like the US to be economically viable? Makes me wonder what will happen to the nation when the bearded one takes the long ride to Stalingrad.
thanks starfleet! good explanation, I was looking for that.
What will be the influence on mongering, I wonder? Even more difficulties than before? Is anything of this going to affect the streetlife?
yours
P.S.: Every communist country I´ve vistited, and almoste every non-communist tyrant-run country with limited access to foreign currency as well is in one way or the other using a second-source economy whichever way, methinks
El Cubanito
05-16-04, 14:23
Snark.Hunter
The mongering seen I believe will get better in Cuba because things will be even more mest up. The Black Market will be the one place where everything will be purchase and the Black Market is not cheap.
El Cubanito
Cabana Man
05-16-04, 19:21
I would like to travel to Cuba this summer ( I know it will literally be about 100 degrees!). In any event, how diligent is the US government in enforcing the travel restrictions. I know that travelling via Canada, Mexico and Bahama's is possible, but what is the probability of getting caught in light of the rhetoric war that is being waged by the US government. Is it better to travel via Caracus?
I traveled to Havana two years ago. I found the hunting to be very easy even with a very limited amount of spoken Spanish. I over paid in part becasue I felt bad for most of the girls. The local bars and cafes around the Libre were excellent, while Rampa was a cat and mouse game with the police. The prices about two years ago were as follows:
Casa - $25 - $35
Woman - $70 - $40
Food (per Day) - $15 - $35
Taxi/ Other / Drinking - $10 - $20
Are these estimates still accurate?
Lance Storm
05-16-04, 20:01
Hello fellow Cuban lovers.
I will be in Cuba from May 27-June 5. I will be staying in Habana, Santa Maria , and Varadaro. Are there any resent reports on good casas , places to eat discos ect. I am also wondering what the crack down will do to the monger seen. Do you think prices will jump or go down.
Any one going to be around at the same time , let me know and we can maybe meet for a drink.
Chow LS
Hello all,
I just walked in from ten days in Habana. I'm super-tired and will write more about it over the next couple of days, but I had a hair-raising experience today that you all shoud be aware of.
I know that all of you who downplayed the risk of travelling, esp. through Cancun, meant well, but I believe the situation has changed for the worst. As I came into Cancun this morning from Habana the Mexican immigration asshole, after stamping my passport for entry, handwrote under the stamp in my fucking passport "Entered from Havana via Cubana" in big black letters. This may represent new pressure on Mexico from you-know-who. I was panic-stricken and dreaded every moment of the ride to Miami. All I could think to do was to tear off that note on my passport page (which was fortunately right on the bottom of the page) and concoct a story that if asked I would say that I caught my passport on my briefcase zipper and a piece tore off. Fortunately there was no comment from US Immigration in Miami, but I never want to have those jitters ever again. That ride from Cancun to Miami seemed like ages, and not at all pleasant ones. I will not be going that way again, and so offer a word to the wise.
On the situation in Cuba, I was there for Fidel's massive rally in response to Bush's proposed actions. Thanks a lot, George, for playing right into Fidel's hands and giving him a new surge of power and popularity with the Cuban people when he so desperately needed it. What a fucking idiot we have in the White House.
More later.
El Cubanito
05-17-04, 13:40
Hi Doc Bill,
Welcome back! I am glad to see you went down and came back ok. Sorry, to hear about the incident with that stupid Mexican Immigration official. I have a couple of questions for you:
1. How crazy are things in Havana?
2. Did you go to the Supermercado in Miramar? If you did was the place still stock with food or is there a waiting line to take whatever is available?
3. From speaking to my girl in Santiago, the whole country of Cuba is going crazy thinking the United State is ready to attack. I told her Asshole Bush did what he did to make Miami Happy and he needs them more than ever if he is going to get elected. I also told them that Bush has enough worries with Irag and that he is losing alot of support here in United State over Irag. How are things in Havana with realtion to this?
Finally, tell us how the mongerinh see is in Havana? Or is everybody worry about closing of the Dollar store and the US attacking?
El Cubanito
El Cubanito
05-17-04, 13:41
By the way Doc, you are right what a fucking asshole we have in the White House he keeps on playing to Fidel Cards.
El Cubanito
Doc Bill wrote:
"As I came into Cancun this morning from Habana the Mexican immigration asshole, after stamping my passport for entry, handwrote under the stamp in my fucking passport "Entered from Havana via Cubana" in big black letters."
The above is heavy shit. To avoid this aggravation, place $20 bill in passport and tell Mexican immigration official before handing passport to him "favor no poner estampilla" or "please don't stamp my passport." If he sees the bill and hesitates, quickly throw down another $20 bill (do not hand it to him). That should take care of it.
You were very lucky they didn't jack with you in Miami. Good luck y'all. Where are the photos?
AlLostInSpace13
05-17-04, 23:06
hello all, i was actually in havana about 2 weeks before doc bill, but i was not too happy with my trip and therefore took this long to write about it. when i purchased my plane ticket, i realized that it would coincide with the may day parade/speech and perhaps security (read policia) may be heightened, but i decided to take a chance because i was in need of a vacation and that was the only opening on my calendar. never again will i visit during may 1st again. along the malecon, there was a cop(s) every 50 feet! i tried to avoid the hardcore pros but it was impossible to meet any regular chicas.
it was impossible to spend any money on chicas. at one point i was actually worried that i might break a record on the least money spent during a vacation.
more to come.
Dear Mongers,
Well, I arrived in sexprison for two weeks and this is the very
first time in probably twenty-five years that it took us, at
least 1 1/2 hours to get out of US Customs ... they checked
everyone bags. I first thought since I told them came from
El Salvador and Argentina that I was the only one who was
asked all kind of questions, but not, just about every pax
was asked and they have to open their bags ... Well, I really
do not know, the only thing was that I play cool !!!
Cubanito: Whats the latest on Cubita La Bella !!! any
news from Santiago.
In regards that asshole from Cancun, Mexico all he had to do
is put that fucking US$ 20.00 inside the passport and no
questions asked. Thats the way they work in Mexico ...
The first reason I didn't bribe the official in Mexico was that what he did was totally unexpected, and has never happened to me or anyone else I know before. The second reason is that I'm not willing to take a chance on being charged with bribing an official, yes, even in Mexico. That could potentially put me in a lot hot water than travelling to Cuba. I also wonder if part of the reason for what happened is the deteriorating relationship now between Mexico and Cuba. This may be Mexico's way of sticking it to Fidel, by hurting his tourism. At any rate, from now on I go strictly legally, even though it costs more (and please don't ask me how).
As for the situation in Cuba, no, the people are not all up in arms nor are they expecting an attack. The Cuban people are very intelligent and most of them understand that Georgie is just kissing up to the "Miami Mafia." Life went about as normal, with some added grumbling about their own government closing the stores. These people have lived with a lot worse, so this is not phasing them much. There were lines at some of the hotel stores, but nothing much appeared out of the ordinary. People grumbled about having to go to the big rally last Friday and how it was such an inconvenience. Like the Elian rallies, one of which I attended a few years ago, it is all a big show put on by showmaster Fidel Castro. I would say that 90 per cent of Cubans couldn't care less about what Bush said and resented having to put on another show for the world, just as they secretly felt Elian would have been better off staying in Miami. You would not know this unless (as I have) you have spent a lot of time in Cuba and gained their trust and confidence.
As for the sex scene, it actually seemed a bit better than my last few trips, with some good pickin's along La Rampa, El Prado and the Malecon. I still strongly recommend against Cuba as a sex destination, though...way too much hassle. My girlfriend went to her mother's in the suburb of Aguacate one night and I found this gem of an 18 year-old on the Malecon who rocked my world for $40, plus $15 for the casa. I wasn't about to bring her to where I and my girlfriend were staying. Those women can smell another one from miles away, and if you've never experienced the jealousy of a Cubana pray that you never will!
I went to Salvador's Alley Sunday afternoon for the Rumba show and one of the performers, a very hot negra rumbera, made herself clearly available to me, and not for a price. Man, was I tempted, but I don't juggle women well and couldn't deal with a new "relationship," while I was trying to sort out the one I had, but man was I tempted. If this woman was half as good in bed as she was dancing rumba she would have killed me, and I would have died happily.
I actually found some good food in Havana. My favorites are Gringo Viejo, Hanoi, La Chancionner (sp. ?), El Alhibe and Los Amigos, all in Vedado except for Hanoi which is in Havana Vieja and El Alhibe in Playa.
I had a great show and dinner at La Casa de Amistad (Paseo between 17 & 19, Vedado), and saw a kick-ass show by Los Van Van at Casa de la Musica in Centro. As I mentioned earlier, Salvador's Alley (Callejon de Hamel) has a great Rumba show on Sundays at noon and there are lots of pretty ladies available there.
A good place to swim and lie in the sun if you don't like the sand is the swimming pool at the hotel in Marina Hemmingway. Twelve bucks gets you in and includes food and drink up to the price of admission. Well worth it.
Of course the best part is always the kindness and hospitality of the Cuban people. They can't be beat.
If I've left anything out feel free to ask. Happy trails, my friends!
El Cubanito
05-18-04, 15:54
Doc,
Where did you pay the $12.00 for getting in into Marina? I always go there but had to pay more for my food. I do like it there? Can I bring my GF there also? Last time I was there some part of the Marina were not available to the locals. I could go in but not local cubans.
El Cubanito
El Cubanito
05-18-04, 15:58
Did you find the 18 year old in the Malecon by the Tunnel?
I keep telling guys the Tunnel is the place to pick up girls. I once pick this hot, but hot 21 year old by the tunnel. She was awsome, I have never been able to find her again. I took her home, but Ihave never been able to find her house. She use to work as a dancer in the Kohly Hotel. The town she lives in is Alamar. Great looking girl with great leg, Ass and Tilts, the whole package.
I wish I could find her on this trip.
El Cubanito
EC, I'm sorry I don't remember the name of the hotel, but you make a left once you enter the Marina and as you go down the road you see the huge pool and snack bar on your left, just past some of the boutiques, you can't miss it. Yes, you can bring Cubanas, no problem with that, and no police. I'm sure if not the taxi driver the entrance guard to the Marina could tell you exactly where it is.
I found my 18 y/o on the Malecon near Prado, not by the tunnel. It seems that from Prado west about a mile is where most of the girls hang out. On the Malecon as well as any other place, they will generally not approach you, for fear of the police. They'll just smile as you walk by and it's up to you to approach them and initiate contact. The good part of this is that they don't climb all over you wherever you go like they did a few years ago, and it's easier to avoid what you don't want.
With regard to Bill's experience in MX, I was indeed shocked that MX officials would do that. Well, may I suggest using other gateways such as Bahamas, Jamaica or the Cayman Islands. They're all very close to Cuba and there are regular flights to and fro to Havana.
A return ticket on Cayman Airways costs US$240 and there's absolutely no hassle at all. Cayman relies heavily on tourism for its bread and butter and is not about to screw things up.
I was in Havana at the same time as Doc Bill (but much shorter period) and unfortunately my experience was soured when I learnt that the last girl I was with stole money from me, despite how well I had treated her. Took her out dancing, bought her favorite brand of cigarrettes, bought her ice cream, paid her $60, etc etc.
But then again...she probabably needed it much more than me (I mean, c'mon, $40? Doesn't even buy a decent lapdance in good ol' USA)
Chalk it up to experience I guess, this is the first time it happened to me. I normally hang out with 1 girl and because of that let my guard down on this trip.
Overall, I support what Lostinspace said...Cuba as a monging destination is really not worth the time or effort. To get the maximum mileage, you do need a good facility in Spanish and plus have some flexibility. It's not the place to go where you can point at some girl and she'll just follow you to a room. Thailand it is not.
The food is also nothing much to write home about - scarcity of good fresh produce and spices being the reason.
It's also not very fun because at any given time, the police can stop you and the girl and demand identification. Girls can get in lots of trouble for being seen with you. I just hate to get girls in trouble. Can't bear the guilt.
If you really want to go, however, go as soon as possible. Things change in Cuba all the time. It could change for the worse, who knows???
A casa I can recommend is Marlen's. She lives in a high rise just next to Hotel de Los Presidentes and charges $30. View of the Malecon from the patio plus locking closets for security. Good hot water plus very comfortable surroundings. Also chica friendly. PM me if you want details...
By the way, Cubanito, is Tunnel a name of a club or is it the actual tunnel between Vedado and Miramar?
I haven't visited this section in a long long time. I didn't read too many posts but did read about what happened in Cancun. That is really shocking to me! I've been in Cancun about 8 times in the past 10 years. I only went to Cuba once from Cancun but had no problems.
I highly advise NOT to pay money to the officials at the airport. It only encourages more corruption. This is a no no. I think the mistake you guys are making is even mentioning the stamp in the first place. Just don't say anything. By mentioning it you are signaling to him/her that you are a scared American that isn't supposed to be there in the first place.
Even if they stamp your passport again and you have two Mexico stamps. So what? Unless you are doing something severely wrong or bringing in crap that you aren't supposed to, most US immigration officials won't hassle you. Hell, most of us probably have several stamps in our passports. I have so many damn stamps good luck trying to find out when I entered and left.
Call me overly optimistic but I'm not worried about going back to Cuba. I'll go via Cancun again and you can bet that I won't try to pay a bribe. I've never heard of any Mexican authorities doing anything like that. Don't encourage this type of behavior by paying them bribes or they will keep doing it.
Just my humble opinion.
Cuba as a hobbying destination is simply not worth it. As I posted in my original report a few months ago... go to experience the island, the wonderful people and the horrible food. There are too many better places with less guilt, less hassles, hotter girls and better chances of meeting a sweetheart without worries than Cuba. Whatever "glory days" Cuba had are now over if you're simply going for girls.
Most of the hottest Cubanas have made their way to Europe, USA and other locals. Also, I find that other latinas are classically more beautiful than Cubanas. Colombianas are some of the hottest!
Buenos Aires
Brazil
Colombia
Peru
and many, many other places are better for the hobby. People worry a lot about Colombia but much of that worry is unjustified or exaggerated. The girls in Colombia are not jaded and much more beautiful than Cubanas. GFE's galore and not expensive. I visited Cali a few months ago and was blown away by the beautiful girls on the street. Havana by contrast was the exact opposite for me.
Saint, I don't think you read what happened to me. It had nothing to do with the stamp, and I was not, nor did I appear nervous. The guy HANDWROTE under the stamp: "Entered from Cuba via Cubana." I suspect this is a result of deteriorating relations between Mexico and Cuba lately. Go ahead and try it if you'd like, but once burned is good enough for me!
We have to keep in mind that the situation is very fluid right now. I mean , who knew that Mexico and Cuba would be falling out. Things change fast, and what worked one week easiily may not the next. Count on nothing! Welcome to the third world.
El Cubanito
05-20-04, 12:25
Saint,
I am thinking of going to Colombia, what hotel or casa do you recommend? Also, it good to hear from you have not seen you in the other boards for a while. I though maybe you marry that Colombian Girl you were talking about
El Cubanito
Doc Bill,
Wow! That sucks. Oh well. I'll still go through Cancun. I'll just bring a black sharpie marker with me. Ha, ha. Kidding aside. They never really even look through my passport. So many Americans go to Mexico. It is troubling though what they did. I might go there in a few months so I'll keep everyone posted.
El Cubanito,
Hmm. I've been quite active traveling around like crazy. I've posted reports on most of the places I'm going to. Check out Lima, Peru. Cuzco, Peru. Amsterdam, Prague, Czech Republic. I've posted detailed reports in all those cities.
I did go to Peru with my Colombian novia but I figured out that a model hot uneducated 20 year old that speaks no English is not all it's cracked up to be. Sure, she is fun to look at but for a long term relationship I need someone that can challenge me not only sexually, but emotionally, intellectually, physically, etc.
I had a blast in Europe as usual. If I settle down with anyone and get married it will be to my Brazilian novia that I have been seeing off and on for the past year and a half. In fact, I'm flying her in again for a month and she arrives to my house tomorrow. This is her 6th trip to my house. Wish me luck.
Life is good.
P.S. To answer your question, I'd recommend the Intercontinental Hotel for you. You are fluent in Spanish so there is no need for you to stay somewhere that isn't that nice. I recommend Hostel San Fernando for those that don't speak Spanish because the owner, Rigo, can help you with so many things. Honestly though, when I go back I'll just stay in the Intercontinental or the Dann Carlton next door. I don't think it's too expensive at around $75 a night. Rigo's place is comfortable however, the security system is too much of a hassle for me. I like coming and going and having a key to the front gate and they don't provide that there. Also, I got bit by tons of mosquitos there and at least one time there was no hot water.
Cali as I mentioned dozens of times isn't a beautiful city but hobbywise it probably is comparable to Cuba in the good years. In fact, the people are even friendlier in Cali with Americans than Cuba. Plenty of private casas. Granted the chicas aren't model hot in the cheaper casas but check out some of my pictures there. For the same prices as some of us are paying in Havana now you can get GFE sex from a model type girl that is sweet and unjaded in Colombia. Good luck.
AlLostInSpace13
05-21-04, 12:20
Hello.
I mentioned that I was in Havana during the May day parade and policia presense was like I've never seen before. I looked for chicas for 3 days with no luck. And on the fourth day, I kept looking into the night and even fell asleep on a park bench - yes, life was tough. When I woke up at 2am and started to walk back to my casa, I saw this chica saying hello to me. Only 6 on my scale but I wasn't gonna say no. We had a good session for $30. But when I let her out the front door, there was a copper standing right there and she was stopped by him! The cop wanted $5 special administration fee to let her go. I was so angry... That was the time when I thought to myself that Costa Rica or even D.R. might be much better places to be in. I did not sleep well that night.
The next evening I was walking along the Malecon and was talking to the fishermen using my broken Spanish. I even offer a Cohiba to one of them, which he accepted gladly. Perhaps I'll bring my fishing gear on the next trip. We talked about fishing and it was a very good conversation. I then appreciate how warm the Cuban people could be. Btw, no luch that night either.
The next evening I basically extinguished all hopes and just sat in a roadside bar drinking. I ran into these crazy ladies. I offered to buy them drinks. And then later on a friend of them dropped by after work and I really hit it off with him - as a friend, I mean.
The next night he took me to the Chevera (sp?) club and I had a great time, not to mention I picked up a cute chica. The next night we went to see Los Van Van...
From him I learned about his life as a Cuban. His many girlfriends. It seems that being a Cuban is fine as long as you have a steady job. Of course, luxury things are impossible, but girls are easy. And isn't that all we looking for anyways?
Anyways this trip I made a friend, I think. And I will be back.
El Cubanito
05-21-04, 14:05
AlLostInSpace13
That is the appeal of Cuba. Great Sex with the Chicas and meeting very interesting people. I have meet alot of people in the last 5 years that I have been going to Cuba. I have also made alot of friends from one side of the Island to the other. I have a Casa owner in Santa Clara who is a very good friend of mine. The guy lets me stay in his home as much as I want and then I can pay when I arrive here in the United States. He tells me that he does not want me to get caught with little money in Cuba. I also have other friends in money-hungry Havana just like my friend in Santa Clara.
I aslo want to show that their is two side to every nickle. I have had my run ins with a couple of Casa owners who are very, very stupid. There is a Casa in Vedado called Casa Antigua. The casa is in Calle 28 between 23 and 21. The Husband Casa owner, is a very very cool guy, but the wife she is very condosending to all Cuban that a foreighner might bring to the casa. The lady name is Marta. She treats everybody like crap and thinks that everybody is beneath them because they have a good business and one of the best casas in Vedado. I will say this their casa is one of the best Casa in Vedado, but her attitude toward the local Cuban who are hanging with the foreigners sours your experience in Cuba for you and the chica you might be with.
The lady pounds her chest high and mighty because she say that her daughter is not doing any tricks on the street. BTW, her daughter is something to look at though, she has a great, great Ass and Legs on her. Her daughter aslo look like a drop dead clone of Cameron Diaz. If you are into Cameron Diaz looks, go to this house and if you can score, please let me know. I personally have not try to make a move on her daughter because of my family past political history in Cuba and that the owner of the House has a pipeline straight into Fidel himself. I was staying there in June 2002 when all of suddenly Fidel Castro drop in to visit her! Man there were so many Guards in that house and when the guards found out I was a Cuban from the United State they went nuts. Finally the Husband step in and he told them I was a guest in the house. Man I was coming out of the shower with this Chica when Fidel and his Guard got there. What a freighting site for me! I though I was being thrown in Jail. The chica got sick to her stomach.
I just thought I pass this onto you guys.
El Cubanito
Holy sh*t El Cubanito! That is a GREAT story. You have a lot of great experiences. I would love to meet Castro someday. The closest thing to it was crossing the street corner near my apartment in Buenos Aires while he and Chavez were getting out of their armored cars at the Four Seasons last year.
I would love to meet that "Cameron Diaz look alike" girl you talked about. Ha, ha.
I am hearing from a bunch of guys the police are out stronger than ever. I wasn't a big fan of picking girls up off the street to begin with in Havana. This makes it much much more difficult. It's a shame no one has made sort sort of private escort board for Cuban girls. The best method now is probably to refer girls and their phone numbers to guys that you know or at least trust. There ARE some sweethearts in Cuba but like I said..the glory days are over.
El Cubanito,
That is one "Jewel" of a story! Don't think I would have been able to get it up after that. Maybe so, but I would have been paranoid as hell. Boy-o-boy, what we do for sex.
El Cubanito
05-22-04, 14:58
Marta the owner of Casa Antigua, her Uncle is one Fidel Top General. From what I hear and seen, Marta and Fidel are real buddy buddy.
Macgoo, I was scare out of my head. To answer your question, yes I had a very hard time getting it up that night. But I found a sweet thing later on who get up the Dead.
Saint, I do agree with you later on. I though to myself I should have try to hang with Marta and her special quest in the kitchen. Marta house is by far one of the best houses in Vedado. In fact two blocks away from where she lives, Raul Castro lives. One of Marta cousin he is head of the secret police in Cuba. So Marta is somebody I would not want mad at me. Since then also guys, I have not stay at this casa. Most of you will agree and understand why I do not go back there.
El Cubanito
Cubana Man
05-22-04, 20:14
Hey guys,
This is my first post on the board as my membership just got added but I have recently gone through the havana forum and I can see that u guys really have a good thing going here, I would probably be lost for sure on my trip in august if it wasn't for this board, but one question i want to ask is if someone could share their expense breakdown to kinda give me an idea of how much i'm going to spend and should bring.
Thanks muchos,
Cubana Man
Cubana Man,
In terms of expenses, I may be overcautious but I figure out very liberally how much I will need and I bring double that. If you're a US citizen (as I am) I suggest doing that because if you get stuck/robbed/etc. there is no way to get more money while you're there, and Cuba is not a good place to be stuck with no cash! Also keep your cash in different places (and put it there sober!).
General breakdown of daily expenses (for one person):
Casa: 25-40 (up to 150 if you stay in a hotel)
Food: 20-50
Taxis: 10-40 (depends where you want to go and how often.
Take Panataxis, they're the cheapest)
Clubs/Shows: 0-25
Chicas: 40-90, plus all the shopping you're gonna do if you get
a girlfriend (and it's expensive!).
Incidentals: (cigars, rum, souvenirs): whatever
Am I leaving anything out, guys?
As with anywhere else, a lot of it depends how well you want to live there, on the continuum between rich tourist and "a lo Cubano."
As soon as I arrive there I take $25 and put it in a separate place in my wallet or suitcase. That's what it costs to get out when it's time to leave.
Good Luck.
Organicgrowth
05-24-04, 10:51
Cubana Man,
Doc Bill’s budget estimates are correct, indeed very similar to my own. I always take double what I think I will need, and also my (non-USA) credit cards: drawing money from the cash-desk at the hotel Nacional if I need it (very rare for me now considering the number of times I go to Cuba). I recall a post about USA members being able to organise Canadian credit cards (or am I mistaken…?).
Keeping your money in separate bunches is the only way to store it as DB point out. Have lots of single-$ bills. I used to come back home with single-$ bills that I got from change and the “quality” of the bills was so poor I would guess they formed the remaining batch of a now deleted series. This aside, you will need single-$ bills for taxis, tips etc.
Keeping your airport tax ($25) to one side is one of the best things you can do. I can not agree more with Doc Bill on this one. No tax money means major issues at the airport. I have personally bailed out a young man in this situation: he was begging for change at the airport…
For security in your casa / hotel take a non-zipper hard case. Keep photo copies of your passport & tickets.
You realise off course that you are going at a time of year (August) that is ultra hot! I should take some sun screen / block.
I would reiterate to you the wise words of many a Cuba-traveller: this is not a mongers country. Sure you will get as much as you seek, but you will not get the same number of choices / freedoms / food / places to go etc. as you might in any “free” nation. That aside, I think every one, and I do mean everyone, should visit Cuba at least once to get a feel for this lovely country and warm and spirited people before things change.
Little more to be said. You will find a load of important information by back-reading these pages.
Regards, Havanaman
AlLostInSpace13
05-24-04, 15:41
Gentlemen,
Perhaps the expenses may be a bit more than that. Don't forget that buying cigars from the factory will cost about $100-$150 per box.
Also if you make any Cuban friends and you guys go to clubs then you should really pay for them as well because ordinary Cubans can't afford the entrance fees.
Furthermore, depending on your negotiation skills and the degree of (your) drunkenness, chicas may be more expensive.
A good seat at the Tropicana show costs $90, and you normally don't want to go alone.
It's becoming more and more probable to run into situations that the policia will ask for a bribe to leave your chicas alone.
Internet access is $6 per hour. And edible food is not cheap either.
Yes, it's good to bring double the $.
Al
Cubana Man
05-24-04, 17:55
Guys,
Again, thanks alot for the info. I guess since I am Canadian, I will have a little leeway as havanaman mentioned I could go to Nacional to take money out if needed. From reading the prior posts in the forum, I kinda got the impression that Marina Hemmingway pool area was the best place to bring a chica because the lack of police presence there; but, I was wondering what you guys think about that and if there are any other places that stood out for u as a safe bet so to speak. Also, would it be better for a Canadian to keep a lower amount of money on hand and resort to withdrawing from a credit card to reduce the chance of it being stolen or.. ?
Thanks guys,
Cubana Man
Lance Storm
05-24-04, 18:16
Hello all
I want to take this time to thank all the fellow board members for the help I have received by reading all your posts. I am leaving for Cuba Tuesday May 25 for the first time and staying 9 days. I had never intended to visit Cuba but due to work, I found my self on the way and looking for help. I am a member of a board called TERB, and it is a review board for fun and things!!!. In looking for past reports of Cuba the web page for here came up and I took a look.
Cant say how glad I am I did. Instead of being a clueless wonder wanting to head to Varadaro and stay there, I am landing In Havana (3 days) then off to look around the top part of the country. Because of this board I have made several great contacts and established a very helpful network of Cuba people to introduce me to the real Cuba. I will be staying in Casas, hotels, and all-inclusive. Eating in nice restraints, with families and out of stalls in the streets. I will be heading to Discos, bars, shows and sporting events. I may find a one-time girlfriend walking down the street or a couple of pros by the tunnel. Ice cream, rum, cigars and mojos, I will try all due to your help. How to avoid trouble with the local and the police, what to bring, how to act and the most important thing you all have taught me, to expect the unexpected and enjoy.
Buy this time on Tuesday I will be touching down in Havana , getting ready to head to my Hotel-Casa and start my 9 days of HERE YOU CAN FILL IN THE BLANKS.
So thank you all very very much, I will take lots of pictures and can send them to all those who need help just like I did. Wish me luck, and a special thanks to the following
El Cubanito, Tony Pilot, Doc Bill, and Saint,
And especially rubmister and iceman.
Lance Storm
El Colorado
05-25-04, 04:10
I'm leaving Wednesday for 15 days between Havana and Nueva Gerona on La Isla. I promise to post upon return.
El Cubanito
05-25-04, 04:23
Cubana Man,
My Trip ussually run me between $3500 to $6000 for a 2 weeks to 4 weeks trip. Here is the breakdown at the above spent money:
1. Casa Rental - anywhere from $20 to $40 a day. The providence of Santiago or Eastern Providences of Cuba will charge you $20 a day. Havana Miramar section (Where I ussually stay runs me about $35 to 40 a day, depending on which casa I stay)
2. Car Rental - $80 to $125 a day. I ussually rent a BMW from Cubacar or Audi A4 from Rex Car Rental. The longer I have the car the cheaper per day the cost get.
3. Chicas - ussually anywhere from $50 to 75 a girl per night. Most girl that I grade a 7 will get the $50 and the one rated a 10 will get $75 and that is to spend the whole night with me. Ussually if you pay these girls this kind of rate they will give you "freebies" the next day.
4. Food - I average about $15 to 20 a day per couple (Me and whatever chica I might be with me)
5. Entertainment - I will go to the typical high end spot for at least one night. That being Macumba, House of Music (casa de Musica), Tropicana and any other Hot spot. $30.00 per couple and drinks about another $40.00.
I add all of the above and I bring with me another $1500 on my transcard for "Just in Case".
I hope this helps.
El Cubanito
El Cubanito
05-25-04, 04:24
EL Corado,
I am leaving on Friday and I wanted to make a quick stop to the Isla. I will be looking for your post to see how is the action on the Island. Let me know.
El Cubanito
Hi guys,
I land in Havana at 11 p.m this Sunday night from Toronto. Any suggestions on where to go on a Sunday night ? I've been to Cuba several times, but I'm always outside Havana (Guanabo/Santa Cruz de Norte/Matanzas) visiting family. I'm hoping to get into something on Sunday night before heading out to the country on Monday morning. Any suggestions on a club, a casa, and a chica? Is anyone down for hanging out and prowling the streets on the night of the 30th? Thanks in advance for the direction.
Peace.
El Cubanito
05-26-04, 20:44
I will be there on Sunday night the 30th, but how do I get a hold of you. I tell you what I will send you a PM with the phoen number of the casa I will be staying at. How about it?
El Cubanito
I recall a post about USA members being able to organise Canadian credit cards (or am I mistaken…?).
I would really like some information on getting Canadian credit cards. Thanks
Katokay,
Establishing a Canadian bank account (checking) is very easy to do, just like in the States. I suggest that you open a bank account first and get a debit card in order to access cash while in Cuba. Getting the desired credit card is a simple matter once banking relations is established. I know this from personal experience. The only problem I have is getting ready-access to cash in Canada; it takes about 3 weeks for a deposited check to clear. That is assuming the deposited check is from the US. If you need access to cash immediately, the best way to do that is a simple wire transfer from your US account into your newly established bank account in Canada.
Now if only I had the "balls" to make the trip to Cuba.
Cubana Man
05-28-04, 02:42
Hey Guys,
Does anyone know which night is open bar night at club 1830?
Thanks,
Cubana Man
Cubanito,
Have a nice trip and keep up dated with all your
Chicas ...
Organicgrowth
05-29-04, 16:13
El Cubanito,
Have an excellent trip. How long will you be in Havana? Finally I have managed to cut some free time: I’m trying for the first week in July.
Comments about the Malecon scene appreciated. Also, if you get a chance please update on the dollar shop story, are they open again, stock? Etc. Much appreciated.
Regards,
Havanaman
Havanaman,
I am also planning to visit Cuba in July; however, it may be
by the middle of July for the Carnaval en Santiago. In fact,
we are planning with El Cubanito to visit. Can you make it
during that period of time.
Organicgrowth
05-29-04, 18:32
Alboroto,
Please see PM.
Regards, Havanaman
Speaking of carnivals, I believe the Havana carnival runs every weekend from mid July to mid August of this year. Has anyone been to one of these? I would imagine there would be lots of girls (no school) but also lots of police. I think it would be a good time to go regardless of chicas. However I sure wouldn't want to end up in a situation like AlLostInSpace13 had during the May day parades - 3 days, no chicas, man.
If anyone has any carnival experience, please share, thanks.
I'll be in Santiago the first week of July, I never being in this city, all my previous trips being just in the other side of the isle including Havana of course. What about some suggestions to start there? What about the situation about just one girl in the casa privada? Where are the best places to pick up semi-pro's? (I don't really like the hard one's). Thanks a lot for any input.
Razor
Havanaman,
The Malecon is alive and well. Nothing near like the old days, of course, but there's a pretty good selection. When I was there most of the girls were on the stretch from Prado about a mile back toward Vedado. Also some pickins on Prado itself.
As for the dollar stores they have reopened, with prices increased 30% or more. Thank you Fidel Castro, and another "bend over and take it" to the Cuban people.
Organicgrowth
05-31-04, 13:28
Doc Bill,
Thank you, good information.
I finally managed to convenience the authorities that be to let me have some free time before I need psychiatric help. I’m finding that I need to travel more and more, is this addiction? Help!? Anyway, I got my dates for early July, splitting my time between Havana and a couple of European counties on the return leg. Yes it is addiction… Help!?
+30% price increases? Shit, that is really driving the coffin nails in deep. I got an unusual request from my (now) steady chica: she wants me to bring over as many small solar-cells as possible. The plot thickens, she never struck me as an electronics nerd…
Regards, Havanaman
Organicgrowth
05-31-04, 13:38
Gentlemen,
I just got off the phone from a monger friend and fellow Havanaphile. He said it took him over 3 weeks to get a visa from the (UK) Cuban consulate.
He used one of those visa-touts (agents), and they reported back to him that the consulate, which normally turns over a visa in half a day, wanted to “make enquires…” before issuing this tourist visa.
This is unheard off in all my years of travelling to Cuba. Indeed I would have thought that Fidel was crying out for tourist $, £ and E…
Has anyone heard about this or can shed light on it? My friend is a professional, impeccable record, rich and has travelled to Cuba 7 times over 3 years. I have never experienced any problems, but as I am about to get my own visa, my mind is racing.
Regards, Havanaman
Gentlemen.
Life is good. Period.
It is Sunday 30th of may, 9 o’clock and I am sitting in the patio of this nice house where I am staying. It is located in Paseo de Vedado, walking distance to the Melia Cohiba and to the Malecon.
It is a two story house, colonial type, BIG. The owner is a helpful negro, and he is charging me $35 per day for the whole fucking house.
Well, let’s get back to what matters.
Friday afternoon, I called my friend J, a Spanish guy who lives in Havana. I couldn’t connect with him, but I left a message saying when and where I would stay.
I arrived to Havana Saturday around 8Pm, rented me a car (kind of expensive, $120 per day if you include the petrol), never mind. I went straight to the house.
When I arrived the casa owner told me that he had a message from J.
I was to see him in Restaurante LA CAZONA in 3ra and 8, and also a phone number for a chica, “T” from now onwards.
Well, I called “T”, and a sweet voice answered the phone. We arranged to meet a LA CAZONA at 9:30. I asked her to dress sexy for me. So I took a shower, tried to shake off the jetlag the best I could and went to the place.
Once there, I met J: he and three more Spanish friends where having dinner, each one with a chica, all of them very beautiful. So I thought, this looks promising.
9:30 sharp, “T” showed up. She was astonishing. Caucasian, bronzed by the sun, about 1.60mts, blond hair (painted), thin (zero fat) and full of curves.
She was wearing a Jeans Jacket, and sexy white blouse underneath, with crisscrossed straps around her chest that showed how beautiful, and rounded her breasts (natural) are. By the way, this is what I like about Cuban girls, they are very natural… no surgery enhancements, ok, but lets continue.
She was wearing a very short RED miniskirt and high with shoes, that reveals her trimmed waist, long and sexy legs. Better, impossible.
Well, we ordered something to eat and to drink. I had a blast of time with “J” his friends and all the girls in the table. We were making jokes, drinking some wine, and afterwards some Havana Club Rum. “T” tuned out to have a fantastic personality, and she can keep the conversation flowing. I like that in a girl.
All the time I was sitting next to her, caressing her legs, her back, and laughing. She did the same to me. We had a great time.
At 12 o’clock it was time to say goodbye to “J” & Co, and head back to my place.
We got into my car, and the sexual tension was obviously high. I liked her and she seamed to like me too. As soon as I got seated, she started kissing me, deep and wet. I started to touch her naked legs while kissing and got my hand under her blouse and into her panties. She was wet. Her breasts where very soft, with hard nipples. She also sampled my tool and apparently I passed her quality control.
We got my place, and I took some pictures and had some fun with that. Then we got to bed, and started kissing and fumbling again. Things got very hot, I laid her on her back, took the panties off (very sexy ones) and gave hear a good DATY, while kissing her inner thighs (women like this tongue play on her thighs). She got really hot; I played with her breasts and clitoris for about 5 minutes until she came. It looked like a very honest orgasm to me.
Then she retuned the favour back, I got on my knees and she got in four legs doggie style to give me a BBBJ. There was a big mirror behind her, So I had to views, one of her lovely face and hot lips treating my dick and one of her slim waist, hips and hot pussy. Lights were on, so the view was perfectly clear.
I blow my load and she took it nicely, she was a swallower, so she kept sucking me hard while I was cuming, and a bit more afterwards. I can’t tell how strong the shockwaves where.
We laughed about how nice it was for both of us. My stamina was good (the rum maybe?) and I didn’t loose my erection and she was excited about that. I got a condom on and went on to do some serious drilling.
I got her missionary and teased her clit while shagging her. She liked that a lot. The way she moved her body under mine was amazing, and the way she touched herself, mmm…
I got her doggie, and the mirror again gave me a nice view of her face and breast while from the other side I enjoyed her nice heart shaped ass, all this time she was touching her clitoris.. Since things where going great, I decided to sample her backdoor. I started touching it gently with a finger, and she moaned positively. Yes!. I have found a girl who likes anal sex. So I shagged her some more doggie and after minute or so, I went for the prize, same position. She lifted her ass a bit more to give me a better entrance and guided my dick in. Mmmmm… nice and tight. I started pumping, slowly at first while she was fingering herself. The moans definitely showed that she was a woman in heat. At some moment I stopped pumping and whispered to her, “if you want more of my dick, you shake that ass and fuck yourself”, and she did… she starting ramming her ass against my pelvis and balls, getting my entire dick inside her ass. She had another shaky orgasm and I could see how her bronze skin flushed red. I also came hard and strong, and when I finished she took my condom off and licked my dick clean, nice and slow.
Now this is a girl who really likes sex.
We had sex one more time during the night and one more this morning. Same quality.
No money asked. It is definitely the ultimate GFE.
I am a lucky bastard I say.
More to come later on a next report.
Mr. Chencho
Day 2.
I dropped “T” close to her place, and went for breakfast to a place she recommended.
It is located in 7ma and 26, the name is “Pan.com” (Pan punto com). Very good recommendation.
It is very cost efficient and if you are on budget, this is the place to go. It is opened from 7AM till 1AM. A 12inchs Baguette, cheese, Ham, and bits of Pork, plus Coffee and Orange Juice, 4US$..
I was supposed to see my friend “J” this afternoon. so after I finished my breakfast I went for a drive back to my place. I never made it.
On 5ta and 20, there were to ladies asking for a lift. I actually drove passed them, but you know how it is, I had a second thought and turned back and gave them the ride.
I asked them immediately if they were up to a beer, and guess what… they were.
Their names, “Y1” and “Y2”. They were not really hot babes, more like a 5 and 6 in my scale. But anyways, I decided to play along and see what goods come from it.
We ended up in a small beer place in front of the Melia Cohiba on Malecon.
Had something like 3 beers each, and during the conversation, they let me know that they both like rum. Hey, my kind of girls.
We went to the store that is behind the beer place on the gas station and bought 2 litres of Havana Club, some Cola, some chips and nuts, etc, etc. and we went off to my place.
Once in there, around 1PM, we sat on the house patio (by the way, the house has a small pool) and started hitting the bottles. We started to chat and make jokes and laugh. Once the first bottle was over, it was very hot outside so I suggest the get into the pool, and so wee did. They both took off their clothes and bras and got into the pool, and I joined them.
We open the second bottle and start drinking in the pool. Well, they both got a bit drunk, just enough to be completely relaxed.
So we started kissing and fondling, the three of us. It was fucking great.
I said, hey, this deserves a picture and I went for my camera. I took some “nice” pictures, and when they saw them, they got really excited.
They started to do more hot and sexy, even kinky poses and kept shooting. They really liked it.
Then one said, I want a picture with him, well guys, I teach them how to shoot the camera, and it went crazy. We had crazy sex on the pool, no holds barred.
I have no words to describe it. And all the time while I was doing one, the other was taking pictures. Just for your piece of mind, don’t worry, I used condoms.
We took a brake and moved the fun to my room. I did more pictures there and the same fun continued.
We finished around 11PM, we have been doing the hoola-hoops for about 10 hours.
Afterwards we went for some food (pan punto com again) and we parted there.
All and all, one of the craziest shits I have ever done.
Some of the pictures are on the Photo Section, however, I have air-brushed the ladies faces, since in Cuba they can get in really serious problems if somebody rats them up.
Cheers,
Mr. Chencho
Travel Tip.
For my US citizens amigos.
You can fly Delta from Atlanta, Continental from Houston or Newark, American Airlines from Miami, Copa Airlines from Los Angeles, Miami, Orlando or New York (JFK very soon) all of them direct flights.
Then connect with Copa Airlines to La Havana. They have 2 daily flights.
I recommend that you buy the Panama-Havana-Panama portion in Panama.
Here is the link http://www.copaair.com
That way, when going back to the US, and they ask you where have you been, you can say, I have been to Panama. Nobody will write anything in your passport about being in Cuba. Besides, you can always monger a few days in Panama
Cheers,
Mr. Chencho.
Hey amigo (Mr. Chencho),
Glad you had a fun time in Cuba. Sounds like you had a great time. That's what it's all about. Do you think the fact that you are fluent in Spanish effected the outcome with "T"?
Thanks for sharing your report. Sorry we couldn't hook up in Prague. Another time. Safe travels amigo.
Saint
Hey Saint.
Of course while being in Cuba, speaking some spanish will help. However, "J" told me that "T" speaks good enough english.
I didn't try it myself, I was too busy having sex.
Mr. Chencho
Organicgrowth
06-03-04, 18:26
Mr Chencho,
Two excellent reports! Yes indeed you are a lucky man. To date I have not managed to get a sandwich session in Cuba, and I have been many many times. I’m convinced that you have a gift!
Your secret?
Regards, Havanaman
Havanaman,
The Secret? I don't know amigo. I just treat them like persons and not like objects and give them enough Booze and smokes.
Havana club 7 years do the trick.
Cheers amigo,
Mr. Chencho.
Organicgrowth
06-05-04, 18:08
Thank you Mr Chencho.
I have tried to PM you, but your mail-box is full and the PM system is not forwarding to you. Can you please clear some of the old mail; I have a number of questions for you.
Thanks once again for your great reports and excellent pics.
Regards, Havanaman
If anyone is going to be in Havana soon and would be willing to pick up some letters for me I'd be most grateful.
Doc Bill,
I will make a pit stop in Havana and Camaguey; however,
not until next month ...
Organicgrowth
06-08-04, 09:14
Doc Bill,
First week of July for 1 week. All spent in Havana. Back in Europe 11 July. Any good to you? PM me.
Regards, Havanaman
Organicgrowth
06-11-04, 11:35
Gentlemen,
Some days ago you may recall I reported on a friend and his attempts to get a visa from the UK Cuban consulate:
He used one of those visa-touts (agents), and they reported back to him that the consulate, which normally turns over a visa in half a day, wanted to “make enquires…” before issuing this tourist visa.
It took him 3 weeks in total, via an agent. My own would also seem to have disappeared in the “works”, its been 10 days… The agent says that the embassy is taking longer and longer to process things unless they come from known ticketing agents! This preferential treatment is designed to give the “tourist” a first-pass go. Strange. I would have said that we were all tourists.
I know this is a small battle compared to the problems of our USA brothers, but non the less is still worrying. Is anyone experiencing any such problems? I would bet a months salary that it is relating to the current global problem…
Regards, Havanaman
Greetings,
I'm an italian student going to Cuba in july to take university courses, and will be staying in a hotel in Vedado and going to Universidad de La Habana.
I wanted to know where to go to find some non-pro girls preferrably (nightclubs, specific areas etc.)
I was also thinking of maybe getting in touch with a girl in cuba before going there, so to have a reference of sorts.
Does anyone know any website where I can meet Cuban girls online. chat, exchange messages etc.?
I speak some spanish too, which should help ;)
Thanks to all
Aurelio
El Colorado
06-15-04, 03:03
I just got back from two weeks spent between Havana and Nueva Gerona on La Isla.
First, the situation in Havana is desperate. Fidel just increased all the prices in the dollar stores 20-30%. This has largely eliminated nighttime entertainment except in hotels and a few other areas. A short recap of various locations follows:
Havana:
Johnnies (El Rio) - has now been converted into a Cuban jazz club where musicians can jam. Few or no girls were present.
Macumba is closed. Even the restaurant and pool are closed during the day.
Barrio China had the most girls I saw. Probably 10 to 12 girls who will settle for $70 for all night (the better looking ones). The cops chase them back and forth along China Blvd, but as soon as you ask them to sit with you, the policia leave them alone. They mainly harass them to extort money and/or sexual favors. I sessioned with a few girls from here.
Pool at Bosce - This is in Playa, right below one of Fidel’s homes. The pool is great and chica friendly. At night they have food and drink specials and a DJ for dancing. There were half a dozen girls outside waiting for a knight in shining armor to pick them up.
Casa de Musica
(Mirramar) - is open. $15 cover charge. A few hard core pros (with cell phones) waited in front. A few more along 5th Ave nearby with their p**ps.
Club Almanacer - was dead. No one was there.
Rodeo
(Parke Lennin) - is closed.
Club 1830 & El
Castillo - these are the clubs at the tunnel entrance on the Havana side of the river. There were a number of women waiting along the Malacon wall in front of these places. I didn’t go in.
I didn’t check out Casa de Musica in Centro; I think their cover charges are too high.
I mainly survived by calling up chicas from past visits. I also happened to meet an old girlfriend at Playa Santa Maria.
There are fewer cops on the streets because there are fewer people going out. There don’t seem to be too many places( discos) left to go out to.
There was still a strong police presence at the beach and I saw a handful of girls taken away by them. Since I had my driver with me when my old girlfriend showed up, I had her claim that she was a niece of my driver. She was not harassed.
I did not have any police waiting for me to return in front of my casa particular as I have experienced in the past.
Carnival has been canceled again this year in Havana. They don’t want any groups of drunks getting together.
Things seem to be pretty desperate in Havana. Everybody is running out of money. Tourism is way, way down.
The quantity of girls to choose from is a small fraction of what it once was.
Cubana Airlines no longer runs jets from Cancun to Havana. They are using props that hold maybe 70 people. The ticket agent now will negotiate the airfare. She tried to hit me for $300 RT and I told her I was quoted $200 over the phone. She immediately said “OK” and lowered the price. Cash only.
Havana is now more expensive than Colombia or Thailand and has only a fraction of the quantity of available girls that these other countries have. I have no plans to go back to Havana soon.
La Isla:
I no longer saw any military presence anywhere in Nueva Gerona or elsewhere on Isla Juventud. The 50 cal. machine gun nests at each end of the runway are now gone. Loaded shotguns and assault rifles are no longer pointed at arriving and departing passengers. The aircraft they use to get you there is ancient and falling apart. Seats are broken and the air conditioning begins working just as you land. You will still be searched two or three times before you board the plane in either direction.
The discos were far emptier than last year. As many people wait outside as enter because they can’t afford the $1 cover. There wasn’t much of a selection of women. I believe that I was the only American on the island. There were about 6 Italians; I knew three of them from past visits.
I was with my Isla girlfriend the entire time. There were not many police present in the evenings. This may be a response to fewer people going out. They did not bother us so long as we were in a bicycle taxi or walking in a group of people. More police were out during the daytime. When we went anywhere during the day, we took cabs and were unmolested.
I took my girl and two of her amigas to Hotel Colony on the western side of the island. The view of the Carribean from there was beautiful. However, the pool and the public men’s room were broken. We, along with two policemen, were the only people on the beach which hasn’t been cleaned in some time. The police did not bother us. The discos, restaurant and all of the shops at Hotel Colony were closed. There was a snack bar open. About 8 European scuba divers were staying at a hotel that has at least a hundred rooms.
Casa particular rates, and their charges for breakfast/dinner were unchanged. Beer, soft drinks and rum had increased about the same percentage as Havana.
I helped my girlfriend get a Cuban passport while I was there. She wants to leave. So does just about everyone else I talked to.
A $5 bill folded into my passport prevented it from being stamped upon my return to Cancun
Havana and La Isla are no longer prime mongering locations. Considering the risk one takes in going over there, it’s not worth the effort and expense
EC, great report, thanks! I appreciate all the specifics and I'm not surprised. Things have been pretty dead for mongering for a few years now, and only destined to get worse. I was there when Fidel raised the prices last month, and I knew this was coming: More desperation, hopelessness and despair. It is very sad as the Cubans are such wonderful people. I won't be returning soon.
I'm curious, how did you manage to get a passport for your girl?
Hey everyone,
I'm an italian student going to Havana in july to study at the university.
I wanted to know any info on what nightclubs are "in", and where the girls are to be found (non-pros too).
I'm staying in a hotel in Vedado.
Cheers to all
El Colorado
06-16-04, 04:38
Doc Bill - She just applied for it and paid the fee (around $65). I heard that if harrassed, you can pay off $300 for guarenteed issue, but that wasn't necessary on La Isla. Next we work on a visa.
Greetings Fellow Travelers (Hmmm, not the right term).
Just for fun, I'm still communicating with a chica in Habana who played me like a violin when I was there (never got any) but I'm gonna turn the tables next trip.
I bought a house in Mexico (Lake Chapala area, an hour out of GDL) so I will be able to get to Cuba easier.
I was "quoted" US$50 to get a passport for a Cuban chica. Of course what good does a Passport do if they have no letter of invitation to go someplace and $$ to get out.
I'm thinking it might be easier to get a chica from Cuba to Mexico than the U.S. Of course getting her back is another story. Anyone ever try that?
I get notes saying how bad it is financially in Cuba now but I wonder if when it has gone from bad to worse if it can go from worse to worse. Too bad.
Take care.
Spock
Spock, good to hear from you! Yes indeed, having just been there I can tell you that things are getting from "worse to worse," thanks to El Commandante and the idiot Bushies playing right into his hands. I think it is harder to get a Cuban into the US than out of Cuba. Mexico might be easier, but who the hell wants to live there?!
El Colorado
06-16-04, 16:38
I knew a cubano who paid off a mexican embassy official to get a two week tourist visa to Mexico. Cuba then gave him an exit visa.
He traveled to a border city and paid a coyote to drive him over the US border. He then walked into immigration and turned himself in, thus beginning his one year wait for automatic residency. He now lives in Las Vegas.
Doc Bill (and all).
Who wants to live in Mexico? Right now, me for one. I'mr eally tired of the crime, pollution and congestion in So. California plus it's a nice jumping off spot to Cuba and more of So. America.
Plus the economy is going to tank in the U.S. when (not "if") the next terrorist strike comes.
Plus, I can live in a house in Mexico which would cost $1M plus here for literally 20% of that. I can have a maid, cook, gardner, pool service, etc. for a couple hundred $$ per month. Climate is great. Anyway, I'm old and want to relax and never know when I might run into some nice Senior-eater down there. The economy isn't as bad as Cuba (few places are) so never can tell if there will be some mongering ops there.
Oh, and thanks to Ramon for making my delivery.
More later.
Spock
Organicgrowth
06-19-04, 16:27
Gentlemen,
The passport / visa scenario is one I fully intend to ignore. I for one have no wish to marry or have a “serious” relationship and absolutely no intention of bringing a chica to my home. For me this is not worth the hassle. Much more sensible for me to go to her / them (!).
I know a guy who organised a chica from Thailand to come to France with him (OK, not from Cuba, but the principal is the same). A couple of weeks go by and she turns into another illegal immigrant statistic, vanishing with her suitcase and a pile of his money.
I guess it all comes down to trust. Now for me, the majority of my Cuban friends are trustworthy: I have known them over many years. I would say that if you are serous about the whole importation of a chica thing, then a long, regular relationship has got to be the baseline start point. The last thing anyone needs is a knock on the door from the immigration services… Take care.
Regards, Havanaman
Organicgrowth
06-19-04, 16:32
Spock,
What an excellent decision to get a place in Mexico. A short hop skip and jump from Cuba and indeed South America. No legal issues of coming and going anywhere for you: nice move!
I wish you luck with the “violin player”; I’m sure you appreciate that a little more assertiveness on your part will get her to play a different tune, and in all of your favourite movements!
Regards, Havanaman
Organicgrowth
06-19-04, 17:06
El Colorado, Gentlemen,
Excellent report: thank you. I’m so looking forward to my next short break: in a few weeks time.
As many of the Cuba masters have pointed out the mongering scene is dire compared to other countries so the clubs closing etc are not such a loss. However for those with chica friends it does become more and more difficult to find things to do, places to go in the evenings etc. This is a loss indeed. After all some activity (other than the obvious!) is necessary to enjoy oneself.
Having said this I have found that a number of clubs will close and then a few short weeks latter they open again either under new management or with a new lick of paint. It becomes all very repetitive. In saying this we still need to keep an observant eye out in these times as changes are afoot. The beginning of the “end” is nigh in my opinion. I know a monger who has made a “futures speculation” in Cuba in property (please don’t ask me for the details…) in the hope / certainty of such changes.
I’m inclined to say that things will go from bad to worse, to very bad and extreme. Financially, this has already started and the portions of rice and beans are getting smaller… To this end I have decided (and I think so have some of the masters here {no names}) to take care of our chicas by offering long term support. For me this is the only way forward now. Enough of my rambling.
El Colorado, you say that tourism is way down. Is this is total numbers form your experience or from specific countries, I’m thinking about the USA now? It would be interesting to get a feel about this.
Anyone in Cuba right now comment on tourist numbers?
Regards, Havanaman
Rebel Monger
06-19-04, 17:51
Aurelio, you're going to study in the university and you're asking where to find girls , something doesn't sound right! Don't you think that you'll be right in the middle of a honeypot!?
Guys, about Cuba going from "worse to worse", it doesn't have anything to do with USA and/or Bush, the problem is "the cuban government". If the people of Cuba were allowed "to look for" a solution to their problem, they would find it. If allowed, the Cuban people would supply all its food needs, and more. The Cuban people is very resourceful, but they lack freedom to carry on!
Let's hope for the end of the "nightmare" and for a better tomorrow, but then, be prepared to deal with the Cuban people in a "leveled field" because the cuban government treats its citizens as "third class citizens" where you (foreigners) and even me (a Cuban living abroad) are treated way above them (the Cuban people), and quite a few of us see and treat them as such. Once the "chain and ball" is gone, would they resent us? Let's hope not!
Anyway, enjoy Cuba and its women, but please, treat them right, they are human too. Who knows, maybe your next "hunt" could be my niece or my cousin!
Thanks Rebel.
Are there really a lot of chicks at the University of Havana? I hope they are open to foreigners in general, I also speak some spanish in fact.
I really would prefer to have a non-pro, normal cuban girl. I've even heard that pro-customers from Italy have been subject to legal proceedings in Cuba because of their hobby! Is that a likely thing in your opinion?
Anyway, I'll see what comes up when I'm there. Any particular tip on cuban girls?
Cheers ;)
I just feel compelled to give a big "right on" to Rebel Monger." Anyone who thinks the U.S. is responsible for Cuba's problems doesn't know squat about Cuban history or Cuban-American politics (and I'm no fan of Miami Cubans, by the way!). Sorry for this totally nonsexual content but I had to add my voice to that.
El Colorado
06-20-04, 21:05
Havanaman - Total tourism was way down in Havana, but especially tourism from the US, Mexico and Canado. I saw a few Italians, but not as many as are normally there
I agree with you 100%. I found chicas who never thought about going back to school after they turned 16, now taking English and computer classes in the evenings. Many others are talking about leaving. The slogan atop the tunnel entrance needs to be changed from "Socialism or Death" to "Socialism is Dead".
Havanaman;
I think I have your outside email someplace and if I can find it, I'll send you some pics of my place in Mexico. The location is great and I can have a house which would be at least $1M + in California of 20% of that. And yes, I will want to jump off to Cuba since it will be easier than from Calif.
I am not (too) stupid about the idea of bringing a chica my place however I sure wouldn't let her near anything valuable. But now what I think of it with my head (and other parts of my anatomy) clear, I think it's best for me to just go there, enjoy the time and then leave with a promise of "I'll try." Remember, this is the one who played me very well for a week and a few hundred dollars last time without putting out at all. OK, this one I want plus, I want to see a very nice teacher I met there also. She was very much a GFE and we write often. Heck, life is to enjoy and I will treat them all nice except for those who take me for an (old) fool. Remember, make a mistake once, it's a mistake. Make it twice and it's a habit.
I noticed though, there is NO monger action in my (new) neck of the woods. Guess it's too small a place.
I'll be down for a couple of weeks starting on the 30th. of June as I'll be driving down there and then have to get my dial up (can you believe that!) connection up and running.
Take care.
Spock/Talosian/David
Clodbuster
06-21-04, 01:59
Talosian,
Where at Lake Chapala is your home? I'm considering moving to Mexico and wondered what life is like at the lake? Is there any life? There are many towns aroud the lake adn I wondered if some places are better than others.
Aren't there some ladies at Lake Chapala that would do a "live in" and be your novia - and house maid?? Am I dreaming?
Thanks,
CB
Rebel Monger
06-21-04, 07:07
Aurelio, there are more women at the university than you could handle, and yes, they are very open to foreigners. I did hear that Italians do not have a good reputation in Cuba, so you'll have to prove that you're different. As long as the woman is of legal age, you won't have any kind of problem there.
If you want to find a non pro girl, just conduct yourself as you would in your country. Enjoy your stay, have fun and be a nice Italian!
Organicgrowth
06-21-04, 11:19
El Colorado,
Thanks for the information. I’m saddened by the decline of USA and Canadian tourists. They would have been bringing in much needed $$ in larger amounts. I guess current global issues are affecting everything including mongering and regular vacations.
Interesting what you say about the chica students: I agree, “times, they are a changin’…”. Without wanting to sound anti-mongering, which as you all know is not me…, it is a shame that a lot of these chicas will become hardcore very soon. Understandable as it is in the circumstances it dose sadden me. I guess this is a result of my trying to bet away from the barracuda-hardcore pros, and aim for the regular chicas. But hey, each to their own. Anyone had any new success with regular / armature chicas via pre-communication online?
Regards, Havanaman
Organicgrowth
06-21-04, 12:06
Spock/Talosian/David,
Lucky man! The cost of MEX to HAV is so good you can make it a regular run. Fantastic.
Pity about the lack of mongering action in “your neck of the woods”. It may be a good thing actually, you know what they say: “never spit on your own door step…”. You always have Mex. City for regulars / amateurs & pay for play, and Cancun for barracudas if that evr takes your fancy.
Regards, Havanaman
FL Wingman
06-23-04, 22:34
Hello all Cuba mongers,
I will be coming to Havana for a batchler party (mine) the weekend of July 10th. I am looking for a chica friendly place to rent and some help on finding the interesting places to visit. Any assistance you can give would be most helpful. I will be traveling through the Bahamas. I have always wanted to visit Cuba and need to do it before I get married. Any help on making this trip better would be appriciated. Feel free to PM me.
FL Wingman
Wingman, what a great place to have a bachelor party! Just read through this board and you should get all the info you need. PM me if you need casa recommendations. By the way, all, I highly recommend the movie "Miel Para Oshun." I posted about it in the general info section.
Hi Colorada,
Great report with very accurate information.
Just as a small add on from a newbi: The two casa de la Musicas (Miramar and Centro) both charge USD 15 for the nightshow and drinks are USD 5 for cuba/libre. Try the Matinee show which starts at 5 pm is is geared for the locals wich entrance only USD 5 and drinks USD.
2 . Also great place to pick up local talents (centro better than Miramar IMHO) as not to many tourists there.
How about Rosalio de Castro and Tunnel? Any action there ?
Saludos,
Kiko69
Cubana Man
06-30-04, 01:49
Hey guys,
After reading recent posts, I'm kinda worried about my trip in August. Some have mentioned that clubs have shut down. Any idea on which clubs in particular? And regarding places to bring your chica, which places are you referring to that have gone dry. I understand marina hemmingway is a good place, is that closed!? Any feedback would be MUCH appreciated.
Cubana Man
Greetings,
I'm staying at the Nacional hotel in Havana in July, and I wanted to know if there are problems in bringing non-pro girls in to visit
Thanks
Organicgrowth
07-01-04, 20:28
Gentlemen,
3 days and counting. Barring another baggage handlers dispute at CDG, I will be in Havana on Monday. Anyone on the board out there then? PM me if you want to hook up.
Regards, Havanaman
Organicgrowth
07-01-04, 20:34
Cubana Man
I will see what I can find out for you. However you have the excellent, and up to date post from El Colorado dated: 06-15-04.
Also let me tell you that nothing beats just going there armed with information from the board and making your own way. The surprise of it, the adventure, the learning: it all adds to the excellent time you will have.
Your chica friends will know exactly where, when and how to go anyplace, and trust me that in the final analysis you will be glad to have just gone and seen Cuba the way it is now (assuming its your first visit off course!).
Regards, Havanaman
Cubana Man,
I am in the very same situation, and after reading the latest
and talking with my attorney have cancelled my trip this
month. I do not want to take any chances on getting a
US$ 7,500.00 from the US State Department. If you are
a US citizen think about it and if you are not chances are
that the next time you are about to visit the US, two things
can happen, either you are a denied a visa or if you have
already have one they can always denied entry.
Yossarian 99
07-02-04, 06:26
Cubana Man,
I was at the Hotel Nacional 4 months ago, and after striking up a conversation with the security officer in the lobby, he felt comfortable enough to offer me the chance to bring up a girl.
These were the conditions:
1. I had to bring her in to the hotel after ten o'clock, when the day shift was gone. And
2. I had to pay him $80 so that he can split it with his boss, the head of security, and some of the other security guys working the perimeter of the hotel. And
3. I had to get her out of the hotel before the day shift came back on duty.
I did not take his offer because I was checking out and into casa. But just to let you know, you can bring girls up. Most of the other hotels have the same scam.
Yos
Organicgrowth
07-02-04, 11:07
Alboroto, Cubana Man, Gentlemen,
I must respectfully disagree with your comments:
1. I have not heard of anyone actually paying any US State Department Cuba-visit related fine. Indeed I have a friend who got a letter about 3 years ago, never paid and has not to this day been pursued. He is a USA monger and has travelled at least 20 times in the last 3 years.
2. Clearly if my USA friend can go in and out of the States, either the emigration officers do not care (unlikely these days) or can not prove anything. Either way he is free to move wherever and whenever he likes in accordance with the constitution.
3. My passport has a couple of the old “small bank” stamps on it. Any emigration officer who knows his job would be able to identify that I have been to Cuba. I have a European passport and have not had any problems with entering the States on the 8 times I have visited. In fact I would say that those trips were amongst my best as far as being dealt with was concerned: the politeness, courtesy and welcome was very nice, so much so I’m telling the board about it!
My friend, I respect your views, however, it is worth seeing Cuba now before any changes occur: the last bastion of “Western Communism” with all that this means. Cuba is not a mongers paradise, far from it. However you will have noted from the many Cubaphiles here that they develop a sort of affection for the place and the people. It is with this in mind that I say make at least one visit. This is also the reason that many a gentleman here will “country hop” to get to see Cuba and meet its lovely people.
Cubana Man, I would recommend you give Cuba a try.
Regards, Havanaman
The new Bushie regulations on Cuba, which include a tightening on the travel ban, went into effect yesterday. I do believe this changes things. This, in light of my recent experience coming back from Cuba (see post in May), would strongly dissuade me from going back illegally. In fact I won't do it. I'm still worried about getting a fine letter from Treasury, and it's not paranoid because people are getting them. The times they are a changing, my friends!
My only hope is that this will actually [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off enough Miami Cubans to tip Florida into the Kerry column and get us back some reason.
Havanaman,
I do respect your personal opinion and this Forum is to
exchange experiences. Let me ask you ... Did you know
that Ry Cooder received an invoice from the Treasury
Department in the amount of US$100K and also there is
another monger who received one in the amount of US$ 7,500.00\
and BTW I will bet your friend soon will received another one
with interest and penalty. And, tell him that that the Treasury
Department charge interest on a daily basis.
Well, As far as I am concern do respect the US laws, even
thou I do not agree with them, plus my interest in visiting Cuba
is music and thats all MUSIC ... but I just do not want to
disobey the law.
Best of luck to you ... and rather visit some other countries,
if I waited over 40 years to visit Cuba can wait another few
months until things changed.
Doc Bill,
The Miami Mafia as is called in Cuba is doing a good work
behind all this. Cristina and the Estefan Mafia bet are
very happy, but they do not know that whos suffering
are the cuban people.
Member #2001
07-03-04, 01:33
I was thinking about going to Cuba through say, Mexico City, but tnow I am not sure. I do believe that anything is possible with this administration and if some of the posts are true I would not be suprized. GW and his gang want to further reduce Americans right to travel. Americans have no civil rights nowadays.
Alboroto, I would like to alsk you where you get this information about Ry Cooter and the fines throught the Treasury Department.
Doc Bill I wold like to ask you the same thing so I can do my own reaserch.
HavanaMan, I want to ask you if your freind is an american citizen and if so is there anyway to contact him? If you are European then I think that there is no restrictions on getting into or paying fines to the Treasurey Department. I would really love to hear further comments on this supject from you.
Yes, true, but this time it's only the hardcore in Miami that are happy. Regular, and in particular younger Cubans are not happy with this, and I hope it reflects in the voting booth!
Member # 2001
I am just going to answer one question. Yes, you could always
fly to Cuba via Mexico; however, here are the latest: Even thou
you place a US$ 20.00 bill between pages of your passport
for the Mexican Immigration Officer not to stamp your passport,
coming back from Cuba.
Guess ... The mexicans always claims that they do not "kiss the
US ass", now days Mexicana de Aviacion gives a copy of all the
passengers that travel to Cuba; therefore, the Treasury
Department can bill you latter.
Please do not ask the source of information, as for me, its
a matter of confidentiality. Thanks in advance. If you want/need
source of information, please do your own research, this is
part of my share personal information with all mongers to
avoid payments to the Treasury Department.
Also, do not contact Gloria Estefan, her husband or Cristina
and mentioned my name.
El Colorado
07-05-04, 01:29
To All - On the subject of flying to Cuba through a third country. Use Cubana Airlines. They are cheaper than Aerocaribe and presumably don't report to the US government. Their flight schedules returning from Havana to Cancun are better than Aerocaribe. Their flights are available from other latin american cities also.
Right, Cubana does not report, but the Mexican authorities do!
Doc Bill & El Colorado,
Either way we are "fucked". Best thing to do ... do not fly
right now, also we can always wait for El Cubanito's
report. In fact, we have not heard from him in a while.
I am wonder about him ...
Hi everybody,
Please look at the photos section.
I'm looking for that girl. I met her two years ago.
She is from Havana (near prado).
Anyone knew her?
Please help me.
Many thanks.
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Hey yall,
I have not been back to Habana in 2yrs is Club Tikol still on La Rampa and is $20 going rate? I like dark girls.
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Gringo Loco
07-06-04, 01:49
Fellow Mongers,
I just returned tonight from a 10 day trip to La Habana. Awesome!! I flew via Cancun on Cubana. My return flight with Cubana was 8 hours late, causing me to miss my connection in Cancun. Cubana was not very accommodating -- typical. Was treated very rudely by Mexican Customs upon reentry. They insisted that I present my US Passport when I tried to use my license & birth cert., then stamped my passport. No problems with US Customs. I just showed them my license & birth cert. and wasn't questioned at all. As far as the chica situation, great! Had a few GFE's and several putas in between. No problems with the police. Even befriended one cop working the beat near Hotel Habana Libre who assessed the relative merits of chicas passing by: "buen culo!, muy caliente!, te gusta?" All in all, another excellent time in Fidel's island paradise.
Hi,
I have not been to Habana in 2yrs. I used to go to a club on La Ramapa named Tikol. Lot of girls. Is it still there? Is the going rate still 20.
KW Kids
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KW Kids,
The name of the club is Tikao and it's still there. Unfortunately, it's a "couples bar" and singles aren't allowed in it. That bar was superb in its heyday but alas no more.
Mrgreek :)
Member #2001
07-07-04, 01:28
I watching CNN last night I heard something about cuba, like tighter sanctions. More travel restrictions and the inabality to send money to the island. THey also said that there is about 150 million dollars that americans give to relitaves to Cuba and that will no longer take place. I could say something about bBush and sanctions, but I wont.
Anyway I was thinking that there has got to be a better way to get into and outof Cuba safely. Has anybody ever considered going to Venazuala and the to Cuba? I know that relations are not that great with them now (no suprize). I think they must not report the travel logs of americans going to the island, bu tI am not positive. Is there anyway to check this stradagy out?
I would like to hear the opions of people that have been there or are living in latin america.
Hi everyone,
Is Habana a good mongering city, and if so where? I have not been in 2yrs but would like to go back in September. I used to find it everywhere. I never paid more than 20 for allnite, and it was good. Is that still possible? If so, it is the best deal in the western hemisphere.
KW Kids
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Member #2001,
The information that you reference is relatively old "news'. Now for the true Cuba watchers out there, the world is watching developments just off the coast of Cuba. A large Spanish oil exploration company is probing for oil with pretty good prospects for a sizable find. If true, any U.S. Administration will have to adjust its hemispheric policies toward Cuba. Perhaps allowing more travel, not less.
Lap Dancer
07-07-04, 13:51
Macgoo,
I can actually confirm that. A large Canadian company, Sherritt has been drilling for oil near Varadero. Sherritt controls the nickel mining (amongst many other things) in Cuba.
Lap Dancer,
Strange name, but of course you dance for the opposite sex, right.
Anyway, I thought it was a Spanish concern. Knowing how the Canadians can squeeze sugar outta S#%@^t, that just might be better. Regardless of the company's origin, I hope they hit it big -- soon. This could change everything!
Rebel Monger
07-08-04, 06:06
If they find oil in Cuba, tourists won't be needed anymore. Remember, when the old USSR was castro's sugar daddy, very few tourists were allowed in, and we Cubans could NOT socialize with them at all. Well, maybe finding oil would be a good thing after all!
Greetings,
I'm leaving for Havana tomorrow:
Wish me luck with the chicas!
Aurelio
Thaj Todad
07-09-04, 22:16
Well its official, I just got my refund check from my travel agency. My yearly trip to Cuba is cancelled , flight to Cuba from MIA is cancelled. My visa is cancelled, and worst of all since I went last year, I cant go for 2 more years. Man, aside from the fact that I cant take my family meds,I cant go to my cousins wedding or his sisters quince, all that fine Poon that my cousins had lined up for me at their house on the beach in Miramar is also cancelled. I am a republican, but sometimes I wonder who is worse Bush or Castro. What a bummer !
Todad, I feel for you man.
Here's my suggestion: you could get a flight from MIA to Cayman Islands (45 mins south of Havana) for about $300 (I think), then fly Cayman Airways to Havana for US$240. Life's too short to miss a party. Somebody's only quince once in their life.
Cayman is keeping mum about Americans travelling to Cuba. The flights to Cuba are so popular that they've recently expanded flights to 4 times a week and it's really helping the struggling airline.
PM me if you care to share some info about some nice girls, alright?
Well, hopefully you and other Cuban-Americans will wake up and smell the Cubita come November!
Member #2001
07-10-04, 07:37
I think we all know what the problem is with Cuba and its ain't the communists there.
Thaj Todad
07-13-04, 05:34
Wet,
The problem isnt getting there, its getting back. If you get there from the Caymans, and when you get to Marti and they stamp your passport you are screwed. Not to mention the fact that now the Caymans, and Mexico, and Bahamas report all travel logs and passport IDs to the INS, and Dept of State. But there is hope! I heard on the news today that their is a new form to fill out for emergencys etc. if I hear anything else will keep the forum posted.
Tha J to Da D
Hello Felow Mongers,
In order to avoid any kind of problems, just do as I did
cancelled my trip. Its not used to pay US$ 7,500.00 and/or
5 years in jail. All the airlines, repeat all the airlines are
given the US State Department a list of the passengers
that travel to Cuba, those included Cayman, venezuelan
as well as panamenian flag airlines. Do not take a chance,
lets wait ... or better yet let the "pussy" wait for us.
If you guys like inexpensive and good pussy, go to
Argentina ....
Turbolover
07-17-04, 06:38
Looks like Bush is being more public today about ruining the party!
"Bush Says Castro Welcomes Sex Tourism"
"The regime in Havana, already one of the worst violators of human rights in the world, is adding to its crimes. The dictator welcomes sex tourism," Bush said...
Hoping this does not spell into even more pending State Dept. actions against a place I really wanted to visit for chicas and the culture.
Gentlemen,
I am not American, and I feel sorry for you so you are supposively the most free country in the world yet you can't go to Cuba. This is what I would try to do. I would go to nice long vacation to Canada. I would head straight to Toronto and I would buy the round trip ticket from Cuban airlines to Cuba. I'm sure that they won't report you US authorities. I hope that my suggestion could be realized and that it helps.
Cheers and happy hunting.
I'd like to know: since when is sex tourism a crime? Only paedophilia is a crime, and travelling for it is a crime. But since when is travelling and meeting a consenting adult for sex (albeit paid) a crime?
Is he somehow confusing paedophilia and sex tourism?
Actually, it's a crime for any American Citizen to travel to a foreign country for the specific pupose of engaging in activities that are illegal in the USA. This includes engaging in prostitution, consuming drugs (both drugs that are "illegal" and "not yet approved" in the USA), undergoing illegal (in the USA) medical procedures, etc.
In the USA, we have perveted the concept of democracy to what it now means to many people: That 51% of the people have the right to tell the other 49% what they can and cannot do.
Jackson
I think it's more like 2% telling the rest of us what to do, and that includes Dickhead & Co. in the White House (see Patriot Act, see restrictions on travel and money to Cuba, see Enron, see Haliburton, see Fox News Channel).
Since prostitution is legal in some parts of the US (see Nevada), I wonder how that would apply. At any rate, the target of law enforcement (as of this writing!) is only sex tourism for minors, not other adults. I also believe, and I may be wrong, that the age of consent is 18 (for US visitors), even if the legal age is younger in the destination country.
Rabo Verde
07-20-04, 08:06
Bush is full of shit , as usual.
Much more sex tourism in Brazil, Argentina, Thailand, Ukraine, etc., but bashing those countries doesn't get votes from the Cuban-Americans, and the loony far right. If they found oil in Cuba, you can bet it would be "regime-change" time, and of course Halliburton would get all the contracts.
Justgolfing
07-20-04, 16:33
I heard on Fox News Channel last night that the BushMiester was told by God to decree that it is illegal for Americans to travel to Nevada because they pander to Sex Tourism!
The BushMiester also wanted a full report on the link between Reno and 9/11, because he had heard the two mentioned together on some TV program.
El Cubanito
07-20-04, 18:19
Please read the following article:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040315fa_fact
zde,
Well, just be prepared. Since you are not an american,
just in case: If you have a visa to enter the US, bet the
very next time, you will be asked a lot questions. In
regards the airline you are flying from Toronto make sure
its not TACA Airlines a salvadorean flag airline, because
they do provided the US Government with a list of all the
passengers that fly such an airline, and of course, passengers
flying into Cuba are "Numero Uno" on their list.
Best of luck ...
Fellow Mongers,
I just could not believe what I was told by an employee of
the El Salvador Post Office, in the other hand, do give him
all the respect and admiration for being such an honest
person. Last Monday, since I was right next to the P.O.
when in and asked this postal employee a formal question:
Did asked him if I could sent a package to Cuba, since I did
cancelled my trip to Cuba, well I could not believe what he
told me: He thought my question was for the "robo" purposed and he told me that "ALL" the correspondence, regardless
comes to the US prior to send it to Cuba, and said ... WHAT !!!and
he in a very nice, honest and sincere manner told me: As you
know we "work" directly with the Government of the US and
all pieces of mail goes to the US first. My only guess is that
Gloria, Emilio and Cristina reads all the mail that comes from
El Salvador and they okayed such a mail.
Could you believe that crap ... no wonder the very same person
told me that a package could very well take up to six months to
arrived in Cuba, and told him but TACA has four non-stop flights
from San Salvador to Havana and he said in a very polite manner
Yes, I know but there is no mail in those flights.
Another one, and I am glad I am into music and sports of
Cuba, not politics ... nor religion, and yes "Pussy"
AlLostInSpace13
07-22-04, 13:08
Sounds like a lot of Americans will not be going to Cuba for a while. How is Mr. Castro going to deal with this financial shortfall?
And this board is going to be very much quieter. Yo! I already miss you guys!
Some years ago I was in Havana and I ran into an American couple that got there on their yaught! The man said he just recently bought a gps and off they went. Well, 90 km from Key West isn't that far.
Well, I don't think many people can do it this way, but just thought I'd mention it.
I'm planning my next trip to Havana - 1st week of November. I miss my cigars! November is a long time away, but I thought I'd try to put some excitement into this board. Too much negativity lately. Think positive, guys. Sooner than you think, the bearded one would kick-the-bucket and the next American President will strike a deal with whomever in power and Cuba will become the next 51st state. And we all live happily ever after.
When (okay, IF!) Castro finally croaks, there will be a three day party in Miami which (if all goes well....) will turn into a month-long party in Havana. God, I hope I can attend BOTH!
If Castro REALLY wanted to annoy the USA and Bush, he'd legalize pot and steal all the drug-tourists from Amsterdam.
Jammer
In the USA, we have perveted the concept of democracy to what it now means to many people: That 51% of the people have the right to tell the other 49% what they can and cannot do.
Ummm...isn't that the definition of a democracy?
Last I checked, America was designed NOT to be one for that very reason.
Perhaps you missed the point: Even in a democracy, the majority does not have the right to trample on the rights of the minority, including the right to the persuit of happiness, which is guaranteed in the US Constitution.
In other words, democracy is not 9 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.
Thanks,
Jackson
Are you kidding? That's just another nightmare scenario. If you've ever been to Havana you would understand all the charm that will be lost when the US gets their hands on it. There is actually a t-shirt in Miami, showing the Malecon in Havana filled with McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, etc. Makes me sick.
Havana Moon
07-22-04, 20:19
Doc Bill, you are absoluely right. It would be the worst scenario ever and one of the last paradises would be lost for ever.
The world do not need a bigger America with all what that means. So for me "el chefe" is not the guy no one of my favorites but there is one who is much, much worse. Guess who.
Jammer,
I do not know how old you are; however, there is a formal
report that Fidel is going to live 120 years. And, I do believe
it, furthermore, they are already working on some kind of
health issue in which you can live up to 150 years old. Just
wonder if Fidel will get that treatment.
Doc Bill,
And do you know who is going to own those fast-food
restaurants? Oh well, yes Gloria, Emilio and Cristina.
Guys,
While I agree that the latest Cuban development is a serious and important subject I am missing the mongering news lately. Maybe the setup of a new subject like "Cuba and politics" or "Cuba and the US" or whatever seems appropiate and we can focus here on other issues.
Just my 2 cents !
Kiko69
Robert the Brave
07-23-04, 17:57
I rather like the look of Hotel Nacional and certainly like the history of the place. Would it be a good place to stay in Havana? Does any member of the forum know if it is girl friendly(even at a price).
I could not find any recent mention of this hotel but apologise if this information is already published.Thanks for your help.
You got it! There is a joke in Cuba, about a team of visiting archaeologists, who present Fidel a live dinosaur egg as a gift. El Jefe demurs, and kindly replies that he simply cannot accept such a gift. When asked why, he says: "Well, this egg will hatch in what, 3 or 4 years right?" "Yes," reply his guests. Fidel: "And then there will be a live dinosaur, and they live, what, maybe 50 or 60 years, right?" "Yes," reply his guests. Fidel: "See, that's the problem with having pets - you get so attached to them and they die on you so early!"
AlLostInSpace13
07-23-04, 23:07
I don't mean to rub it in. Really. With all the American brothers on tight leashes, I wonder if the prices would go down for the rest of us? Simple laws of demand and supply. Same quantity of "supply", but now that the "demand" has gone down, shouldn't that translate to lower prices? And/or better selection?
In a strange sort of way, part of me is actually rooting for President Bush!
Shoot! Air Canada seat sale just finished!
Havana Moon
07-24-04, 09:22
Robert the Brave,
Girlfriendly hotels do not exists in Cuba. Some hotels I stayed in you can take la chica up to your room, but it costs. You have to pay the nightpersonal $ 10-20 and they are calling you and want her to leave after a short while.
Casa particulars are much better but even there you might have problems with registrations of the first girl and then they can say no to a another second one. But there are some where you got your own key and they never watching you when come and leave. It depends but hotels es muchas problemas.
Robert,
I stayed at the Hotel Nacional 7 years ago and it was definitely not girl friendly. A female friend tried to come to my room, but they post security at the eleveators and would not let her come up. It is a nice hotel with excellent service. Remember if you are American, it's all cash, no credit cards.
Mojito Rubio
07-24-04, 15:01
Hello,
I am French, speak spanish, and will be in Havana on next 1st october for 10 days. Any recomendation, places to visit, casas or paladares. I'm not interested in tourist places and interested in meeting interesting people.
How does an American get into Cuba? I want to visit, and the price for playing seems great? Can anyone help?
Patrolman2
Mojito, first read this section and including the archives. You will find the answers to all your questions. Second, buy a copy of Moon Handbook's Cuba travel guide, written by Christopher Baker. It's a great book, best one out there on travel to/in Cuba. Avoid Lonely Planet.
Mojito Rubio, casas and paladares are tourist places ;-).
Bakers books are ok (better for you is Havana not the Cubabook), but reality is changing every month in Cuba.
So I'm reading here that all airlines, including from Mexico, are telling the U.S. Government who is going to Cuba. My question is:
Has this been confirmed and/or admitted by the airline (formally) or is this possibly a rumor without foundation?
Does one actually need a U.S. Passport to go from Mexico to Cuba and return to Mexico? And what about an American living "permanently" in Mexico on a Mexican visa?
It will be interesting to see what happens after the election.. If Bush wins, I think a lot of people will be moving away.
Spock
Thaj Todad
07-29-04, 13:16
My pop works directly with, ATF and the state dept. He was told by them directly that all passenger manifests are given to them by the FAA, and any airlines that flies to any country and touches ground on US soil must provide every daily manifest of all their flights. In other words its a lost cause. He told me to unpack my bags after I purchased my ticket in Feb., and he was right. He also said that they would not be leniant on violators and that this is gonna be taken very seriously. Dont know if I should have posted in the politics section but I am sure Jackson will move it if neccessary.
Mojito Rubio
07-29-04, 13:45
Thank you for the recomandation about the Baker's book, I will buy I know from friends that everything is moving very fast there. On my return I will make a report of what I saw and discover.
One more thought.
Many Americans are going to Cuba through Mexico/Cancun and taking Cubana airlines. As I recall, and please correct me if I am wrong, Cubana is the National Airline of Cuba. I don't think the Cuban Government is going to turn over the passenger lists of people coming in from anyplace, to the U.S. Government.
I saw a post on another Board where it was asked if a person living in Mexico on an extended visa (5-years) can use that instead of a Passport to get a flight to Cuba. I wonder if Cuba would accept a Visa from Mexico as valid identification.
Any thoughts here?
Spock.
Talosian
"If Bush wins a lot of people will be moving away"
That's a nice, well thought out comment. I hope you are one of the "lot of people"
Moving away from the USA will solve all your problems.
Tao,
The US authorities don't need to get a passenger list. They have people that wait in the lobbies and see who is getting off the planes. Yes, they have their people in Mexico. They also have other ways of finding out.
They have even more people in Canada. Most of the time, a US citizen is actually processed through US Customs while still in Canada before going on to the US.
You should be ready to be stopped at anytime and be ready to resist questioning if you have been to Cuba. Needless to say, it would also be very stupid to have anything in your luggage that would give you away as well. Not just cigars but even small stuff like napkins with a hotel name imprinted on them.
Flashman, thanks for your nice, well thought out comment. A true asset to this board and real helpful insight.
Talosian wrote:
<Many Americans are going to Cuba through Mexico/Cancun and taking Cubana airlines. As I recall, and please correct me if I am wrong, Cubana is the National Airline of Cuba. I don't think the Cuban Government is going to turn over the passenger lists of people coming in from anyplace, to the U.S. Government.>
All airlines must submit flight manifests containing detailed info regarding passengers and cargo to the destination airport authorities (i.e., Mexican government) who then SELL the manifest to U.S. Treasury officials acting on behalf of OFAC (Office of Foreign Asset Control), the U.S. subagency in charge of Cuban travel ban enforcement.
Mojito Rubio,
I PM you, if you need some good adresses in Cuba.
PM me back if you need.
A bientot!
Arecho66: If this is true and manifests are sold, then why are there not thousands of demand letters being sent out to Americans? We know a lot of Americans go and only a small percentage get demand letters.
And if that is truly the case, why didn't I get a letter when I went?
Who knows, just thoughts.
Doc Bill and Flashman: IMHO, your comments are worth their weight in toilet paper. Expressing an opinion is fine, simply attacking someone doesn't show much mental ability or quality of the person. Have fun, I won't bother to reply to any more flames. I am glad people like you are in the minority and there are others who think about things and express their opinions, thoughts and suggestons as mature adults.
Spock.
Having just sent a pm to Talosian, I thought I would clarify on this forum that my comment was intended as a dig at Flashman, who insulted my friend Spock with his inane and useless comment. I apologize if it was understood any other way!
AN APOLOGY:
I misread the post by Doc Bill and thought it was supporting Flashman. I sincerely apologize for my error. Doc Bill has ben very supportive of my right to express opinions here. Hope I can buy him and some other a few drinks one time in Habana.
Spock.
Copper1968
08-01-04, 12:18
Just read a few old reports on the Cuba board and I want to tell you guys something. Probably you know it already but here we go:
NEVER, EVER trust a Cuban girl, they are ALL lying, they have all boyfriends/pimps.
Never believe them when they are saying: "I have cancer" or "I have a child from a Spanish tourist and he left me alone and then they are starting to cry. They can cry on command.
They are all very intelligent, they know when they need to look away when there other tourist in the neighbourhoud.
They try very hard too convince you that you are the only one.
Here I qoute NPaul who wrote:
She is a nice young girl. not sure about our future. wants me to send her money each month. bought her a new bike for $130 and felt like i was hustled though she kept saying money is not
important. like us saying sex is not important
In the beginning they are telling you money is not important and of course you are impressed, but THEY know afterwards you give them more: a bike, a television, a refrigerator, clothes, jewels, a TRANSCARD, money each month.
When you try to check her it is impossible because everyone on this fucking Island is lying.
I finally know the truth about my novia. When you tell her that she will deny it very, very hard. Even the family and the neighbours.
Please guys think about this, a nice, young women who can find 2 or 3 tourists who send here every month money is not only smart but also VERY, VERY rich.
So guys pay only 20, 30 USD not more, fuck here and LET her go.
Maybe it's difficult, but listen to me I lost more then 4000 USD with my last novia.
Going to Cuba for 8 years I thought not with me, but you see the result.
EarlBrowder
08-13-04, 17:34
Does anyone have an actual current report on La Habana? I'm curious as to the actual, current situation.
Cubana Man
08-15-04, 01:29
Gentlemen,
I will finally be heading to Havana on Friday via Toronto and just wanted to check back and thank you all for the enormous help you've been, I don't know where I'd be without it. I'll be sure to submit a report when I return, I know the board has been hurting for one recently. If there are any new suggestions as to places to check out, I would definitely welcome them. Anyway, can't wait til Friday!
Cubana Man
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize the word "I". To avoid future delays, please use a capital "I" to refer to yourself in future reports. Thanks!
I just returned from a 1 week trip to Havana. My goal was to get laid 7 times in 7 nights by 7 girls. I instead ended up spending the week with the same girl but did manage to sneak away 1 night for a quickie with another girl. So I basically had all the sex I wanted for 7 nights but fell short on the variety. I still had a very enjoyable trip. This forum has helped me greatly in the past so even though I was doing the girlfriend thing, I always tried to keep my eyes open for any information I could pass on here later.
Havana Carnival - When I arrived Sunday night the carnival was on at the Malecon near Prado Ave. Live music, hundreds of Cubans partying and drinking, lots of girls and extra police of course. I figured I'd hang out and enjoy the festivities for a while and not rush and hook up with any girls too early. So when a few girls approached me I didn't pay to much attention. As time went on I started to notice that in proportion to the amount of girls that were at the party there just wasn't that many girls looking to hook up. Fact was I later couldn't find anything I really felt comfortable hooking up with for one reason or another. It's possible it could of been the extra police presence. I think it was more that the girls that were there just seemed to be more interested in the party and not really into hooking up. Don't get me wrong. You can still meet someone there. It's just that if you see something there you like at least show your interested early on so you don't have to panic like I did and start walking around like crazy to other areas drenched in sweat forced to just try and meet anyone so I could get laid that first night.
Prado Ave - I took a walk up Prado Ave where all the girls sit on the benches in the center of the street. I really felt that it is just too dark here and what you think you are getting may turn out to be not what you get. I kind of started thinking that maybe the less attractive girls sat here because the darkness might help them look better. I preferred walking off to the side next to builders on the same side as the Hotel Caribbean. There always seemed to be a few good looking girls hanging around outside the bar entrances and yes it was well lit. As you walk down the street girls from the benches will signal out to you. Once again, be careful that what you see in the dark might not be what you get. Once you signal her over it is kind of an awkward situation when she turns out to be a dog.
Malecon - The carnival was only on during the weekend on the Malecon. It was back to normal during the week. I took a walk on the Malecon around the Central Havana area on a Wednesday night. Central Havana towards Old Havana is where the action is as far as I'm concerned regarding the Malecon and girls. In April I enjoyed prowling the Malecon looking for girls. There weren't a lot of girls then and only a few Cubans hanging around during that month but I always managed to hook up and had a lot of fun doing it. This time the Malecon was packed with people even very late into the night. In amongst the people there were a pretty good number of girls. However I must say I really felt awkward and like such a pervert walking up and down the Malecon in front of all those Cubans. It would have been different if there were more guys like me out there to take some of the pressure off. I think the Cubans get a kick out of coming out and sitting back, relaxing and watching the tourists try and hook up with the girls. So I definitely felt there was an acceptable number of girls hanging around this area. I imagine it would probably be pretty good all during the summer while the Cubans were on holidays and probably any day of the week too. I just found it very difficult to make a move with all those people hanging all around. I like being anonymous while going on one of my chica patrols.
Other Possibilities - I went with my girl to Casa De La Musica in Central Havana. A nice place to take a date but I didn't see too many girls looking to hook up on a Thursday night. However both the girls I met I found just hanging around out front of the vicinity of this club. Also as I stated before there were girls hanging around outside the clubs along the Prado. When I was in Havana in April I felt trying to get laid in the daytime was hopeless. Every girl I seen just seemed too busy. Now in the summer there seemed to be many more girls looking to hook up during the day. I was approached a couple times when I went to have a meal at restaurants in Old Havana and Vedado. These girls seemed to prefer to hang around the type of restaurants that have an outside seating area. They will just come over and ask if they can join you. If you're not interested in sex you can just buy them a drink and they will keep you company while you eat. It's a good way to practice your Spanish or maybe make a friend that you can possibly run into in the future. I did also see a pretty respectable amount of girls on the Malecon once while riding my bike. This was in the afternoon sometime around 4:00pm. They were hanging around the Central Havana area where the road takes that curve. I'm pretty sure you would need a car or taxi to pick up these girls. However a couple of them did signal out to me when I drove my bike by. Not sure what they expected me to do. One other thing I noticed that a lot of these girls were wearing a red top. Not sure if that means anything.
Police - On the weekend during the carnival they hauled in extra army trucks packed with police. Despite this I really didn't see any police hassling any girls or anyone else during the course of my trip. The girl I spent the week with assured my that there would be no problems for us to go out and be seen together. We must have walked past at least 25 police holding hands (we were holding hands, not the police) and they never bothered us once. As a matter of fact they seemed uninterested. Some advice I received on this trip was to take a more aggressive stance in front of the police. Sneaking around and walking separately may actually make things worse because you look like you got something to hide. Perhaps the fact that we walked around slowly and casually holding hands like we were just out for a stroll made us look like a serious couple. When we encountered a policeman we never altered our course. I am still not totally sold on this direct approach. I guess it depends on the girl's past and whether she is a local girl. My girl did have one fear and that was taking a walk with me on the Malecon. I asked why and all she said was that it was very complicated. Perhaps she had problems there in the past but she denied this.
Girls - The average price I heard during this trip was around $40 for an average looking girl. If the girl is comfortable with you expect them to try and hook up with you for the rest of your trip. One of the things I liked about the girl I hooked up with was that she invited me to go for a drink to talk and get to know me before she even mentioned sex. This makes me think she was an amateur /opportunist type. These type of girls are probably good if you are looking for a girlfriend for your trip. I just don't think semi-pros do this. Be advised. These girls are so nice you will have a hard time getting rid of them. I recommend setting some ground rules before hand if you don't want a Cuban novia.
Final Words - I think there are definitely more girls around during the summer months and a lot more girls available during the day. However I really seemed to have a hard time of it I must say. For example when I escaped the one night from my girl to look for some action I was actually right at my door step ready to pack it in and go to bed alone because I couldn't find anyone. Can you imagine that? Luckily there was a girl nearby outside my doorstep I just signaled over. Maybe I was just too picky. Possibly it was that I always thought there was just something a little better waiting around the next corner until I ran out of corners. I think the Havana Carnival attracted more girls but also more police and I think it was actually a hindrance in meeting girls on the Malecon. I think a normal summer weekend night would have been better to meet girls on the Malecon. I think the best advice I can give you guys is that if you find something you like grab her right away. I think this is where I went wrong.
Justgolfing
08-16-04, 17:23
There has been a lack of reporting here, I am usually a lurker, but I feel I owe it to you all to update you with my latest journey.
Having spent the last 9 days on the island I can tell you that all there is just fine.
I spent time at Macumba, Jazz Cafe, Casa de Musica, and a few smaller bars.
Only Jazz cafe had solo chicas. At the bigger clubs I would highly recommend that you bring your own with you, it is simple to do.
Just walk or drive on Malecon or La Rampa (23rd by Havana Libre) talk to someone that appeals to you respectfully and invite them to dinner and/or the disco. You will have the time of your life.
Hola. I just returned from my first trip to Havana. I don't have time to post a full report tonight, let alone scan photos, so just a few words.
First off, either things have changed a lot recently, or the reports calling Cuba dead are just flat wrong.
I had a great time, and had to beat the girls off with a stick.
General observations:
1) You can't swing a dead gato without hitting a jinetera on the Malecon at night. The place is packed, chock full, every night, until 4-5 in the morning. Most are *not* afraid of the police as I have read everywhere. Only one girl I hooked up with was afraid (yet she did come with me after we went to get the car, and she got in right in front of a policia), but they were all over the Malecon, and the main drag in between the Malecon and La Floridita on most nights. Several times, I saw jineteras chatting it up with the police. I had three. All were hot and my type (waify and young, 18-20). One was a disappointment, a clock-watcher, despite her seemingly great attitude on the Malecon. The second was sweet and hot, but all-business. I liked her, and would call her again, but she didn't rock my boat because although cute and nice, she was after all a pro. She did want to see me again, but I had other fish to fry. Finally, the last night on the isla, I found the all-star jinetera. It must have been 4 AM, a desperate, 11th-hour try (my companion made a huge error that night I won't go into - let's just say a failed blind double-date). She was an adorable little thing, the one who was scared. I was with a Cubano friend (my companion's cousin) wandering the Malecon, bullshitting and drinking Cristals, when I saw her. Just had to have the 95-lbs waif. Anyway, she was scared so we went to get the car and she hopped in. She was great, just great, as close to GFE as a pro can be. Being drunk, but with the Blue Pill on-board, I took over an hour to finish, and even took a break and asked her if everything was OK (other pros would have been getting quite perturbed, "c'mon mayng!"). She said "yes" with great enthusiasm. In fact, I got her to moan a lot, and I believe she wasn't faking because she only did it when I did certain things. Great sex, blue-collar work ethic, great attitude, and seemed to enjoy the sex. Oh, I almost forgot. I had told her in advance that she would be paid commensurate with her performance. Having had a bad experience before, I made it clear that I wanted a tranquilo GFE experience, not a clock-watcher. Well, she came through. Afterwards, she wouldn't tell me how much she wanted! She made me decide! Let's just say I paid her a lot better than the others, and she got some nice gifts. Funny thing, I kept asking her in my shitty Spanish to stay the night with me, and I couldn't understand why she wouldn't agree to do so. Then I figured it out - It was fucking past 7AM (All my windows were blocked out, so you couldn't tell the time of day)! The night was gone, and so was my chance to sleep! So my last night I had like an hour of sleep, after dropping her off. And no, I won't give her name, LOL. I'll be seeing her again in the winter, and I want to limit her mileage so she stays sweet. With the jineteras, attitude is everything. Unfortunately, it is hard to tell up-front. The bad one seemed to have a good attitude up front. You just have to play the jinetera lottery! Oh, and be nice to them, even if they are scammers. The more pleasant you make the experience for them, the better the chance they will play nice.
2) As far as GFE, had that too. Mi compadre and myself picked up two girls hitchhicking, and had a nice night with them. Mine was a sweet little thing with a great body, although she was loud and bossy and annoyed my compadre, LOL. We took them to a couple of outside bar-cafes and just drank beer and chatted, even danced on the patio outside the little 24-hour store (cruicial to find beer sources open all night). The funny (sad) thing is that I saw a stunningly hot Cubana there who smiled at me, and I was like "Fuck! How can I slip her my number without the other one seeing?" She was just absolutely gorgeous, can't believe she got away. FUCK! Anyway, we took them home, and both my companero and myself had smiles on our faces the next morning. I can't emphasize enough the importance of getting a car and cruising Havana for regular Cubanas who are hitchhicking (even if they aren't just pull up next to them and say hello). Clearly, GFE is the preferred way to go, but it is harder. First, you have to find the chicas you like, approach them, and be able to converse (see #3 below). It takes considerably more subtlety than with jineteras of course, but the payoff is worth it. If you can get a cubana to go out with you and have a few beers, chances are very, very high that she will do you at the end of the night. Just have some nice gifts for her afterwards.
3) Functional espanol is a must, at least for GFE. I need to work on mine for next trip, but fortunately I was with a Spanish speaker (two on most nights, my countryman and his Cubano cousin). My Espanol is a 2-3 on a scale of 1-10.
4) A car is crucial. Expensive (~$60/day +$200 deposit for a piece of crap), but you need it to cover as much ground as possible. So much easier to pull over and meet chicas. Everyone hitchhikes in Cuba, including hot chicks who love to meet foriegners. Be sure your car has air conditioning and a working radio (cubans LOVE music). Also, get a diesel if you can for mileage. Gas is extremely expensive.
4) The amount of absolutely gorgeous Cubanas wandering around Havana is amazing. Look, I have high standards. I was blown away at the amount of hot chicks, and oh yeah, it is so damned hot they all dress in skimpy clothing. My situation was so many chicas, so little time. I would have loved to have stayed 3 weeks instead of one, and I wanted to cry in Jose Marti airport (just missed the hurricane or I could have stayed!). Unfortunately, I was with someone who had other agendas than just chica-chasin, i.e., his family lives in Havana, so he spent a lot of time with them. We also are into cigars, and did some tourist stuff. Nonetheless, I had 5 hotties in 7 days (one neighbor of the casa I was staying at, 3 jineteras, and the GFE hitcher). This, with only 20% of my time in Cuba spent on the hunt. I feel that on my next trip, I will spend 80% of my free time on the prowl, and I know with absolute certainty that I could hit 14 in a week, with a little help from the nice people at Pfizer (I tend to drink a lot on vacation).
5) Don't go in August. Too fucking hot and humid (this wasn't my choice, trust me). Just too oppressive to wander around during the day, the best time to find regular cubanas and set up a date for later.
6) Before you go, go to a 99-cent store and get soaps, body sprays, lotions, and nail polish, make-up, anything smelling good (like generic/counterfeit perfumes). All chicas like this stuff.
7) I was amazed that in my 30's, I could sleep 3-4 hours/night, and still drink and party all night, for a full week. The food might be crappy, but it is high in carbs, which helps. Also, bring caffeine pills! Next time, I am filling my gawddamned suitcases with Red Bull.
8) Research casas particulares exhaustively. I stayed with my friend's family, off the beaten path (15 minutes from Malecon), and they were quite poor. They were sweet and great hosts, but it was too much "roughing it" for me. Next time, I find a top-rated casa, with a separate entrance to my room! Also, air-conditioning and private shower. Oh, and BYOP (bring your own pillow).
9) I was greatly aided by having a Cuban guide (my friend's cousin) to accompany me. Although he was hassled ocassionally by the police (regular Cubans are strongly discouraged from bothering tourists), we managed to convince the policia that he was my host. He was crucial in keeping the scammers (1,00s of them) away. It's almost like they exhibit professional courtesy, LOL, "oh, that Yuma is already being scammed, so I won't bother him." My point is, if Yumas walk alone, they will be constantly bothered by scammers offereing cigars, sex, and gawd knows what else. Trust me, you can find legit cigars and great sex without the aid of these assholes. One fucker hit me up to buy cigars 100 feet from the freaking Partagas factory, where the world's greatest cigars are made. Uh, no thanks asshole, I just bought legit Cohibas right over there. Point is, having a guide that I could trust was huge, a great deterrent to the scammers. This is especially true since there were so few Yumas on the island. I only saw like 2-3 other groups of Yumas the whole week!
I honestly felt that I was held back only by my travelling companion, who wasn't focused enough on chicas, and by time (only there a week). Gawd, the damage I could do there next time! If I had another week (that wasn't 90 fucking degrees and 100% humidity) dedicated solely to chica hunting, I'd *easily* hit 2 a day.
Final thought: Those of you who are calling Cuba dead are full of it. Just absolute fucking bullshit. It is an awesome, awesome place to go (for mongering and cigars, not food or weather), and I can't wait to go back. Unless you are a totally ugly, fat doad with no Espanol or social skills, anyone can get the chicas in Cuba. I loved it and would go back tomorrow if I didn't have to work. I'd stay 4 months if I could afford it. Maybe I should start writing like Hemingway so I can stay forever.
Pictures later.
Dran Reb, thanks for the great report. I couldn't have put it better myself. The police thing is iffy; My girl insisted on no hand-holding and avoiding the police at all costs, and she was so terrified of them I couldn't argue. A lot of it depends on color: If the girl is white there is much less chance of the police detaining you. That probability goes up exponentially as her color gets darker. Racism is alive and well in Socialist Utopia!
A big thank you to Cubanoob and Dran reb. It's good to hear things are getting back to normal in Cuba.
I was there in August last year for two weeks and I also thought there were many chicas available during the day and night. I am beginning to think that summer is a very good time to monger in Cuba.
True enough, the summer weather is hot and humid especially during the day. But the scuba diving is excellent and makes for a great daytime diversion.
Doc Bill....regarding racism.... my Cuban driver told me that Cuba is 20% black but the prisons are more than 50% . Not very different from the USA, where the general population is 12% black and the prison populationre is 50% . Interestingly enough,Brazil which is a large multicultural country, is 25% black and more than half the prison population is black.
Is this racism? Or is there another explanation?
Rickster, not to divert too far from topic, but the answer to your question, both in Cuba and the US, is "both." It's racism and racial policies (official or not) which make it more likely for black people to commit crimes, get caught and be prosecuted than whites. Cuba doesn't have the systemic or violent racism that still exists here, and I credit Fidel with that success. However, in more subtle ways white Cubans are extremely racist, including the police, who, ironically, are often from Oriente and as such are dark themselves.
Cubanoob,
I speculate the reason why you had a good time was because July and August are school holidays. Lotsa girls from everywhere flock to Havana for fun & a little spending cash and also lots of Habaneras aren't as occupied. Good to hear you had fun though. August is also slow tourist season because of hurricanes, etc.
So combination of high supply plus low demand = opportunity!
Should have gone this month but got other plans instead. DR baby!
El Cubanito
08-20-04, 14:33
Hi Wet Nose
I went to DR in early July, I had a girl everyday. I was not that all impress with the quality of the girls. Mostly they were in the 5-6 range. I did find an 8 who was good in the sack, but she was constaly telling me she had to call her kids. Now, I do not mind if a working girl calls her child to see how is the child is doing if the child is sick. But with her is was out of control, calling every 30 minutes. I got turn off and left her the next morning. From what I could hear I think she was not even talking to the Baby Sitter.
I like the action in CUba, even though is a pain in the Ass getting there.
El Cubanito
El Colorado
08-20-04, 20:04
Cubanoob - What city did you enter Cuba from? What airline did you use? Were you stoped or hassled in any way at any point of entry or exit to any country?
Thanks,
El Colorado
EarlBrowder
08-25-04, 13:41
Cubanroob and Dran,
Thanks for the reports. Sounds like Havana is still an interesting place to visit, and I will probably in November (for my 5th time).
Ciao companeros,
Earl
AlLostInSpace13
08-27-04, 04:02
Hey guys,
I'm planning a trip to HAV the 1st week of Nov. Does anybody wanna hook up? Pm me.
So, to return to an old and still valid topic, how are my fellow Americans going to Cuba these days? Or are you just not going in the present climate? Or do you throw caution to the wind and hope you're one of those that don't get caught? Or are you finding ways to go legally (not easy!).
I have friends who recenly went through Jamaica. They were questioned a litttle about the extra (Jamaican) stamp on their passport but got lucky and pleaded ignorance, the line was long, so they let them go. My sources tell me that now all airlines in Mexico, Cayman, Jamaica, Bahahmas and maybe more are passing on passenger lists to the authorities, which means that you may (or may not) get a notice of fine for $7500. Hearings are now officially in place to hear the arguments about the notce.
Bottom line, you won't know you got caught until you've been home for some time
Gringo Loco
09-04-04, 01:32
Just returned from yet another totally satisfying trip to fantasy island. I had a GFE from a previous trip waiting for me when I arrived (much to the dismay of my mongereing partner who doesn't speak any spanish). Sweet, young (22) white girl with thick dark hair and a huge rack. Very sexy! Had to switch casas midway through my trip because they had a reservation. So feeling like busting loose, I told my chica that we were going home. Freedom! It didn't take long to find a new one even hotter than the one I just cut loose. 23, mulatta, long dark hair, athletic body with a great set and a perfect culo. She was strolling on Galiano with her mom. I told her mother that she had a beautiful daughter and asked her permission to call on her. Met her and her parents at their apartment later in the evening, hung out to chat for a while, then took her to dinner at a nice paladar. There was a great fireworks display and concert on the Malecon that night and then it was back to my place for some very hot passionate sex. Primero con preservativo, despues sin. Stayed with her for a several days before it was time to go on the hunt again. I gave her a couple of Victoria's Secret thongs & tops (gotta hit those clearance sales!) and bought some groceries for her house. Even my bonehead buddy managed to snag a sweet GFE towards the end of our trip after first wading through a bunch of jineteras. I burned 100 Pimsleur cd's for him, but he only got through about 10 of them and retained very little. We both faced nothing more than perfunctory questioning by US Customs upon reentry. I came home with some great artwork, a few lovebites and scratches that I'll have to hide from my girlfriend and of course amazing memories!
AlLostInSpace13
09-05-04, 12:49
I think most Americans will kinda avoid Cuba for the time being. For those that have a safe way to reach Cuba, they will not talk about it in the public. So since there's less demand, I think chica prices will go down.
For my next trip, I plan to check out the matinee at the casa de la musica.
AlLostInSpace13
09-06-04, 12:55
With all the Americans laying low, I feel very lonely on this forum. I'll be in HAV in 2 months. I would like to plan ahead but have been very busy. My only planned activities so far: cigar, reading and matinee at Casa Musica.
I'm thinking of changing casa particular. Getting bored at Marta's condo. Too quiet all the time. Can someone suggest an c-frieldly casa? (pm me)
Come here azere, gimme a hug. I read you're going in Nov. I'm going sooner in Oct.
This is from another website. I don't know the casa, but I have a buddy who lives and works within chipping distance, and others a little further away. Right in the middle of all the action of Obispo and Prado. A chick wrote this piece, but maybe Mercedes can procure some action for you with some of her socias. I like to lay my head in an area with more tranquility, but if high foot traffic is what you're after, this section of Havana is ranks. Nothing bettter than asking one of the counter girls at Harris Brothers to take a trip back to your pad less than a block after work.
Havana - Casa Mercedes - O'Reilly No. 506, 1 er piso, entre Villegas y Monserrate, Habana Vieja(e-mail jormer506hotmail,(537)863 4493
I can't recommend Mercedes and Jorge enough! This place is beautifully kept, clean and in the heart of old habana. Mercedes is amazing and so helpful. She said she was our mum in Cuba and she was. Nothing was too much trouble for her, whether booking us bus tickets, giving us names of her contacts in other cities we were travelling to, checking to make sure we got ther okay, booking us taxis, boiling water and refigerating for us...! She did this not for money, but because she wanted to help us. She even got up at 4 am to say goodbye to us despite finding out the night before her uncle had died. She farewelled us with a smile and a tear. I will forever remember the kindness of Mercedes and Jorge.
Organicgrowth
09-06-04, 23:29
Gringo Loco,
Sounds like you had an excellent time, more power to you. However:
Primero con preservativo, despues sin.
You serious? Please take care for all our sakes: you, me, other brother mongers and possibly even the single mother consequence…
Regards, Havanaman
Hi,
Can anyone tell me of any nice hotel? One which I can access all amenities ie shops, beaches and janiteras very easily.
And also bring them into my room if possible.
I will be going to Havanna in November and want to book a hotel in the prime location. ie pussy galore.
How easy is it to pull a girl from Cuba.
What are prices fro the night on average for a decent woman.
Can't afford A class, i'm on a budget. Need as much Fucks/$ as possible.
Also, what currency do janiteras deal with?
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How about American girls in Cuba. Do they come to Cuba with sex on the mind. I wouldn't mind shagging one. Preferably anal.
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Kader,
If the beach is the main priority, consider Tropicoco, west of Havana, east of Guanabo. Sometimes there are low-ball one week rates out of Toronto and Montreal. You can invite a tourist to your room, or you to her room, but not a Cubana. That's why guys rent casas so you can.
The security at Tropicoco used to split $10 between them for a 12 house cubana room stay.
Omar, security doorman at the Hotel Telegrafo has let me take girls up to a room in the wee small hours of the morning.
You are more likely to hook up with a Canadian chick on a package deal. I've met chicks at the beach by Tropicoco from Toronto and Moscow and had good times with them for a week
Beware of any cubana drinking a $2 mojito. She is telling you she is expensive and you will make you pay dearly. The girls will want $20-30 to $80-100. Take the DogBoy approach and shoot for $10. Or tell her you'll keep her on a ST retainer for $5.
Member #2039
09-07-04, 17:31
Hi all!
I'm an Italian boy who will enjoy his 28th birthday in La Havana! I'll arrive there on Sept 15th, and I'll stay there for 10 days. Who would like to know each other and have fun together?
Contact me as soon as possible!
Alessandro
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Hello,
Me and two frends are travelling to Havana in November, we would like to know the names of the best discos to visit for chicas.
Organicgrowth
09-09-04, 09:10
Danielson
RTFF
Regards, Havanaman
Danielson, feel free to pm me for any information that I can help you with.
Thanks Petrolero.
What exactly is a casa / casa particular. Are they apartment I can rent or are shagging cabins I can rent for sex (how long?)
Do anyone now of any good apartment I can rent in Havanna, that is close to the pussy and will also let me bring women home. (decent priced pussy ie no more that $25)
What about the tourist girl. are the easy to fuck. Do they come to cuba to get liad?
From what I've been reading, you don't have to look for girls, they look for you. Is this true?
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Mojito Rubio
09-12-04, 16:35
Hi everybody,
I just discovered Havana where I will fly again on October 1st, any nice adresses and places?
Will inform you and make a report when I will come back.
Kader,
Sometimes the casas are independent apartments, and they also can be rooms beside the house. Some guys even rent a hotel and a casa so their stuff can be safe no matter how drunk and forgetful they may become.
Check www.casaparticular.info or cuba-junky.com for a list of rentals. You can take girls back to the rooms and also ask for a short term if you meet a girl on the beach. Going back to the house of the girl isn't a bad way to get to know about Cuba. I don't have a hell of a lot of experience with rentals since I stay with friends and family.
Don't pay more than $20, you really don't have to. The price hasn't changed on the upside for the past 7-8 years. They get $30-$100 because guys are lazy and willing to pay it. You can even get down to $15 or $10 if you're willing to say no and walk away from a deal. What do you know she's on Calle Obispo the next day and she agrees to your price.
Short term can be had south of the Capital for $5 if you speak Cuban and can pass for Cuban; with rooms going for a $1. I say Cuban because it's beyond, or short of being Spanish. Blending in as Cuban is sometimes, being very American. Most Cubans I've met, want to be me. They envy that I can come and go and can buy a beer at will; without consideration of a loss of dinner.
Get beyond the romantic shroud of these girls and look at them as shrewd businessmen. No they don't have dicks. Havana is wide open for action---keep your eyes open and pay attention. It's easy to determine what girls are in play and ready to play. Sometimes they are alone, in pairs or three of them together. Sometimes with a pimp close by following on the street or seated on another bench.
Be creative and ask girls who might not appoach you. There are a lot of retail girls you run into on a daily basis. Very hot there and there's nothing better than a cold beer during the day. Don't listen to anyone who states it's a bad time to go to Cuba. It's a hell of a rush, and a lot more exciting than the modern world for whatever reasons. Very few have cars and this is perfect chemistry for girl watching. Park your ass somewhere and enjoy the scenery. No better way to get to know the scene. Carry some cigs
Tourist girls are best picked up on a plantation hotel with a captive audience, Cayo Coco, Varadero, Guadelavaca, ect. Tourist girls in Havana: Independent, renting a casa, are more likely looking for a Cuban guy to screw. Most anything is possible with the hot hot heat.
Hello Friends and Hobbyists
I'm on October, 21 for 1 night in HAV.
Is anybody there to stroll around together
Kader and Mojito Rubio,
I can recommend you the "Casa del Medico" in HAV.
It's located near the cemetery. The house is well equipped, msot rooms with private bathroom, some with shared bathroom between two rooms. The atmosphere is absolutely privat.
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Thanks Eberhard and Petrolero. You've been really helpful?
Regarding the "Casa del Medico" in Havanna. Can you tell me where abouts in Havanna it is? What about the women? Are they within easy access. I would appreciate it alot.
Also in Havanna ther is Central, Old, Vedado and Miramar. Which ones are the best for cheap quality pussy?
I hear transport is a problem in Havanna, that's why I want some easy access.
What about the Malecon. Are ther any rooms there. Ive heard the
action is around these areas.
El Colorado
09-24-04, 19:21
Has anyone been hassled lately by US officials upon ariving in Cancun from Havana? Any other problems with any other gateway cities? Is everyone using Cubana Airlines to go over?
W Kader,
The one big cemetary is in Nuevo Vedado. It is a bit aways from the action. It is in the quiet part of town but you would probably need a taxi to get around.
El Colorado,
Do you mean Cancun back into the States? There should not be any U.S. officials waiting in Cancun.
Quackup
been in havana few months ago.
for me cuba was a mixed experience.
i had some fun. not enough and it took me a lot of effort.
i you want to get laid in cuba this is no problem.
it depends on what you are looking for and what you are willing to pay.
i found in havana the following women:
1) hard-core putas: too dangerous for little me.
2) professionals: ok if you want a quick snack.
professionals in the centre of havana ask up to $40.
i did not even take the effort to ask for the prices of the professionals in the lobby of hotel telegrafico and hotel nacional.
from a principal point of view i am not willing to pay more than $25 for a snack.
also i am not willing to negotiate for a woman through an aggresive pimp.
3) semi-profs/amateurs/gfe.
they can be nice and ask reasonable prices. $15 in havana is possible even for a unexperienced, non-spanish speaking starter like me.
however: hard too meet, certainly if you don't speak spanish.
if you are lucky to meet them the language still is a problem.
sometimes i am a romantic. please don't blame me for this.
for some weird reason i think it is nice to talk a little bit before and even after a fuck.
and during the fuck it comes in hand if you can give some instructions.
to my opinion a problem in cuba is the security system they have there.
upon arrival in the county your passport is recorded in a central computer system.
then the owner of your casa registers the data of your passport.
i have read postings on this site that casa owners also register the data from the carnets of the girls that are visisting you.
so this virtually means that you can be linked to all the pussies that you have met in cuba.
and who nows what other information is put into this system.
i don't like this idea.
also take care for ****d girls.
always check their carnet (=id) for their age.
if they can't show a carnet (watch out some carnets are fake or lend from somebody else) then the certainly are not 18 yrs old.
getting caucht can mean years of prison for you.
maybe i should have taken the advice of petrolero and take even more initiative than i did. sometimes suddenly an opportunity appears leaving you a 15 seconds time to decide. if you are not too drunk or it not too late, meaning it is not too dark too have a good look on the girl, and if it seems ok take this opportunity.
Justgolfing
09-24-04, 23:44
El Colorado,
No sign of US officials in August of this year. Cubana is the best way to go.
W Kader
When I was in Havana and I went out on an evening chica patrol, I would start around the Hotel libre in Vedado, walk down La Rampa Ave to the Malecon, walk the Malecon through Central Havana to Old Havana, then walk up Prado Ave then turn around and go back. These are all prime locations for meeting girls on the streets. If you are in relatively good physical shape, you can do it too. You will have a good time meeting all kinds of people, taking in the atmosphere and checking out the girls. There are lots of little places to stop and have a beer too. Or you can take a water bottle full of rum and coke like I do. Just grab a cab when you find someone you like. I think it would definetly be a good idea to get a place fairly close to the Malecon. Vedado is probably best for a new guy. Always count your change if you go to the variety store at the Hotel Libre. Have fun.
Hi all,
Thanks for your replies.
I think I have a good rounded picture of Havanna.
Does anyone have any ideas of the action in ChinaTown.
Most Chinatowns I have visited in different countries, always seem to have some sort of action.
It seems to me that most casa owners and female. Are these women
hookers on the side? In which case, should I try it on?
Or maybe they can bring the pussy over.
Fido Dido! What does hard cores putas mean?
Should I be scared?
Gonna definitely try that route Dran Reb.
Kader,
A hard core puta will jack you off with one hand and claims ownership to your wallet with the other, once she gets into your car or hops on the back of your scooter. And pretty much helps herself to any of your cosas when she gets back to your place.
Chinatown is usually loaded with them at one end and the other. Hire a bicitaxi to do your cruising.
If you are into an older woman fetish, you're in luck with the casa operators.
Kader, when are you going? I'd pay to be your jinetero for the comic relief.
Good report Fido Dido. You put in some dues paying.
Hello guys,
Dran's report put me in mind of my last visit to Havana, for reasons that will become aparent I mean 'last' in more ways than one. I posted this report on a rival forum but thought you might like to share it, it's a little bit long I hope you do not mind. My trip was last June, a little break from the Dominican Republic, I flew Cubana from Santa Domingo, no problem with that except for the ugly grumpy stewardesses, Jeez only communists could look for hostesses for the national airline of Cuba and pick such a collection of mangy old hounds!
I had visited Havana twice before and found it to be monger heaven so I was really looking forward to my trip. I prepared myself well, booking a casa with separate private entrance through havanarentals.com and they were surprisingly efficient. I got a one bedroomed place with aircon located near the Havana Libre at about $30 per night. When I arrived at Havana airport I booked a room in the Havana Libre, well let's face it you don't want to spend your entire trip in a casa, just the nights or parts thereof. I then headed to my casa, met the landlady, a pleasant woman, filled out the forms paid the rent and collected the keys. She couldn't care less that I was actually staying in a hotel.
I should add that at Santo Domingo airport I bought a selection of miniature perfumes, well you know how a few cheap knick knacks can make all the difference to a chica's attitude. Like I said I knew what to expect so I was prepared. Anyway that night Iwent to the terrace bar of Hotel Inglaterra to have a few cold ones and scout the territory. It took the usual half hour to attract the waiter's eye and for him to bring me a warm beer, but my spirits were good so I put up with it. Not much appeared to be happening so I went for a walk around the square, I got one or two 'psssst's from a couple of unlikely looking prospects who were wisely lurking in the shadows. I was also approached by three or four pimps; now I think most people here are like me and regard pimps as lower than the lowest form of lowlife. I truly loathe them and never felt the need to use them in Havana so I declined their services.
Well, by about eleven I was surprised to still not have a companion and not entirely surprised to see alot of cops about, so I went back to the Hotel. I hadn't stayed at the Libre before so wasn't sure of the score but decided to check out the top floor night club. Nada, absolutely bloody nada, and no sign of anything coming either. I was fed up and tired at this stage so decided to go to my room and order a bottle of wine, after ringing room service five times and getting no reply I went down to reception. Room service is busy she prissily told me, he (yes he, one guy in a hotel that size!) was serving other residents, I went to the bar bought a bottle of overpriced [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and took it with me to my room.
Next day I wandered along the Malecon hoping to grab a little afternoon delight, nothing much besides alot of young men swimming around the rocks. I did encounter two girls about 6.5/7 each, I chatted to them and explained I was going for a beer and for them to join me, no they replied but could I give them money? Well I gave them a couple of dollars to which they replied 'Gracias y adios!' Wow things really seemed to have changed in Havana.
That evening I just decided to look for some kind of Commodoro action, remember the overpriced disco where you could at least be guaranteed some hot if expensive lookers? Well the cab took me to a night club I am assured is the best in town. You will, I hope forgive me for forgetting the name, it's ten bucks to get in but drinks are then free. Outside is a terrace area which you pass on the way downstairs to the toilets so some of you might know the name. Anyway the place was well filled but the girls were a rather glum looking, not especially attractive bunch. Quite a few had some gold on them, always a bad sign on a hooker, like medals on a soldier it means she's seen alot of action. I eventually met a 23 year old blonde student, face 7 body 5, she asked for $80 clearly under the impression she was working in Vegas. What really put me off though were her two black eyes, she said she fell when drunk - yeah that would be right, just after her boyfriend/pimp punched her I suppose.
Next day I strolled around town again passing two pretty young girls who gave me the look, but they were way, way too young so I passed. As I walked further I saw a European woman with a tv camera crew filming something so I paused to watch and lo and behold she went over to talk to the aforementioned girls. Now I don't know what was going on but I guess some sort of documentary about the iniquities of the flesh trade in Cuba, thank God I hadn't even acknowledged the girls! I went to the cafe beside the Inglaterra and ordered a burger, it only took 45 minutes to come and rest assured whatever was in it was completely innocent of any association with beef, I was still tasting it six hours later.
That night I checked out a bar in town, not much happening just a load of earnest American girls trying to dance, easily recognised by their lack of make up, sensible shoes, long floral pattern skirts and handbags slung over both shoulders held tightly by their sides as well as their total inability to dance. Now why the hell do these types come to Cuba? Anyway I went to the bar to get another mojito when I was told to wait as inspectors from the Economy Ministry were checking the bar's records. Sure enough there were two hatchet faced bitches poring over receipts and grilling the staff, at ten thirty on a Friday night! This lasted more than an hour, Christ what a government.
On my last night,a Saturday, I walked Dran's route feeling sure that I must score something. No such luck, results for the walk, a good couple of miles I'd say were three 'pssst's from hardcore ho's, four approches from pimps and about a dozen cops. I eventually stopped for a beer at a little bar on the street behind Inglaterra across from the theatre. I was immediately accosted by a tall, leggy mulatto girl in a short skirt with a not too bad face and lovely hair. Slightly tough but I really needed some action so we went to club on Las Ramblas, she danced alot and I was sold, she was a stunningly sexy dancer and I was getting very horny watching her so I decided to take her back to the casa.
On the way back she asked the taxi to stop as she spotted her friend and wanted to chat to her, fine, then we went on home. Back at the casa with the lights on she did seem like she had seen better days but was still a looker, but then she opened her purse and took out the crack cocaine which she had obviously bought from her 'friend' and started to smoke it. That just about put the tin hat on it for me, next day I left for the DR, I gave the perfume to my landlady, she was the nicest woman I had met in Havana.
I have a memory from my second trip to Cuba, I was having dinner at a restaurant on the street, when a blonde, fortysomething, really foxy woman strolled by with her beautiful twenty year old daughter. They smiled over at me clearly indicating they would like to join me, well you know how it is, I was hungry and not in the mood for conversation and anyway it was Havana such encounters were a dime a dozen, so I declined. Now I know years from now that as I lie dying on my bed, the hoarse breath rattling from my weak old lungs and death's clammy grip tightening on my heart my final thought will be 'What the fuck was I thinking of!?!' But that's all Cuba is right now; happy memories. For me Cuba's finished. Apart from the shit food and crap service can anyone really call a place a monger's paradise where all there is are pimps, overpriced underperformers and crack heads, and where the figure standing under the streetlight is a cop? You may as well stay at home for that, currently I am in Indonesia of all places and I find that the spirit of old Havana is right here. As for Cuba, in the word's of my two girls on the Malecon 'Gracias y adios!'
W Kader: a hard core puta is just what Dorman describes. It is a hooker doing crazy things. For instance using coke (in Cuba stay far away from drugs). Or treathening you. Most often they are wearing a lot of gold. It is true what Dorman says: the gold on a hooker is like the medals on a soldier.
When you see a hard core puta you recognize her.
The route Dran Reb is describing is I think the best in Havana. Although the Prado and the Park Central are pretty commercial. I did try to contact girls at the University for a nice GFE experience but had no succes.
Sometimes, suddenly you can have luck in Havana. But you must decide quickly. Whatch out for taking too young girls, as they sometimes offer themselves. Always check their carnet or it may cost you a lot of years in a Cuban prison.
And do not pay too much.
$25 should be sufficient.
And avoid pimps.
Anyone having any suggestions on meeting University girls?
Fido
Great report, Dorman. Yours and others below just continue to confirm what I´ve been saying for about two years now, that Cuba is no place to go for mongering. I´m here in Brazil right now and there is no comparison. I don´t know why some people find this hard to believe. I love Cuba and the Cuban people, but if it´s sex you´re looking for there are lots of better places to go.
AlLostInSpace13
10-02-04, 07:33
Guys,
This is precisely what should be happening. The US President says that Cuba engages in sex tourism. And so the Cuban President cracks down on it. We go from one extreme to the other. And hopefully there's a happy medium somewhere in there.
Hows it going all,
Petrolero, I will be going in December. If anyone is there at the time please let me know.
My friends haven't got the instincts of a true monger. So another monger will be most welcome.
Dorman, you're story has made me a bit sad. The only reason i am going to Cuba is for the pussy.
Hopefully Dran Rebs routes will work for me. I need to be optimistic.
Why did you buy perfumes for the girls? Is that normal to do so?
What is legal age in havanna? Is it 16 or 18?
I'll stay away from the hardcore putas. I'm not really into proffessional. I like the semi pro women.
Is there an ethnic seen in cuba ie chinese, indian, etc or are most of the pussy local.
Is Viagra sold in havanna and is it legal?
w k, i bought the perfumes as little presents, cuba is in a trade embargo, they have a serious economic problem consequently the girls have great difficulty getting the little things most women in our country take for granted. when you can give them a cheap little present they are delighted and the resulting improvement in attitude can be out of all proportion to the cost of the gift. someone else hear recommended visiting your local 99c shop and stocking up on stuff like nice underwear, cheap perfumes, deodorants, earrings that sort of stuff, you will seem like santa claus. obviously don't fill two suitcases full of the stuff just a few little knick knacks.
on the subject of ages i would advise extreme caution, there are some ****rs hanging about, they are supposed to have id but usually borrow their friends or sisters. my friend i make no judgement on why you would ask such a question but be warned cuba is an authoritarian police state. right now they are coming under attack from the us for allowing sex tourism, and are in the middle of a crackdown. you can see how a few well publicised arrests of sex tourists would be just the sort of thing to show the world how seriously they were taking the issue.
dorman,
thanks for the advice.
i'm not a peadophile. but legal age as i know it is 16 years.
i don't know about cuba. i've heard that the penaltys a severe for **** sex, thats why i was asking. i like my fresh 18 year old pussy but nowadays you can't tell the age.
thats why by knowing the age i can give myself 2 years leaway.
don't want to go to jail. might end up being the janitera for some big hairy animal.
First time poster. I need the "low down" on Cuba.
I came accross this forum some 7 years ago and most of the info then was dated, recently came back and suprised to see timely reports, and improved user interfaces. Sometimes better than the "other" board. Great stuff!
I've been researching cuba vs costa rica now for the past week and am still undecided. Cuba, according to DORMAN's lastest report, does not sound so monger friendly without much effort. Other reports here in the last 3 months indicate otherwise. Seems to me to be a big risk. Always having to look over your shoulder, finding casa friendly places, etc. Not my idea of a relaxing R&R.
Costa rica, on the other hand, seems not to have missed a beat since last I was there a few years back. I had a great time there then. I believe I will have a good time again if I go now.
I like trying new places, new venues. Hence my interest in Cuba. I seemed to have missed the window by 2-3 years.
The cost difference for 7 days is about $450 - Cuba being far cheaper - thats for everything: air, hotel, food, taxis, mongering. (Most of the difference, I figure, is in the later).
So my question to my fellow mongers is, is Cuba (given the political climate now) worth the risk / reward ratio, or should I go for the sure and tried (more expensive) venue. I have a week to 10 days to kill before Christmas.
Thanks for any replies.
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RubMeister100
10-07-04, 18:24
you're right kader, you don't want to go to jail in cuba. don't go with anyone under 18. generally speaking, the cuban police will not bother tourists unless they are with an **** girl or around drugs or are fighting/causing a disturbance.
there are foreigner pharmacies in havana but viagra is not available at them.
as dorman says, havana has changed over the years. but it is still an incredible experience. as they say "today is tomorrow's good old days".
havana is not as good as it once was but i have never ever had any similar experience to his last trip. i tend to meet people in general and then make connections that way. also i do not hesitate to strike up a conversation with a nice girl i meet and treat her like a normal human. i have never been turned down for dinner, lunch or a cappucino. it has always led to sex. great sex. as has been said many times before, every woman is available in cuba. you just have to work it the right way. treat the semi-pro's like ladies and you'll go a long way.
Frenchy Couple
10-07-04, 21:58
GIRLS IN LA HAVANA
Hello guys,
We have planned to go Cuba for the first time in the end of october and will stay 5 days in La Havana.
We would like to have sex with some hot caribbean girls. Our last trips were in Ukraine and Russia, and now, we need some heat, some nice latinas and black girls.
We are interested in semi-pros. But if it's too difficult, we can think of pros.
Could anyone give us some advices ? Districts in the city to check ? Some bars or discos ? Where do the girls look for the tourists ? What is the average rate ? Is Vedado the right place ? Or old Havana ?
Thank you for your answers.
ddphil,
Remember, you cannot take the girls back to your hotel. You will probably need to rent a casa.
Quackup
DD Phil,
I have been to Havana 3 times in the last year. I only know pay for play in Havana but I have read the reports from other countries including CR. From what I can tell alot of guys want to get their moneys worth when they travel so they want 2-3 girls throughout each day. If you are one of these guys you may be disappointed with Havana.
You will see hundreds of girls every day going about their business but if you look at their faces they all seem so focused at just trying to get to where they are going. (school, work etc.). I personally think the daily commute for a Cuban is their biggest hell. Approaching a woman should be no problem if there are no police around but all you can really do is make a date for later on or something. They just can't drop what they are doing to go with you even though they would want to. The exception is July and August when the girls are on holidays. They usually have nothing to do during the day. The reports you read from 3 months ago are probably during this time.
Another problem may be that even if you have a casa with a private entrance, you may have problems bringing a girl back during the day. There usually seems to be a little room in front of your private entrance that is used by the casa owners during the day. The casa owners don't want to keep you from having a good time with your girl but bringing a girl over infront of them puts them in a difficult position. They are obligated by law to take the girls name and personal information if she wants to stay (bad news for the girl). But if it's at night they can just say they were sleeping and didn't see her come in. This is just in case you get drugged or she steals something and the police get involved. They will want to know why the casa owners don't have the girls information.
Now if you are like me and aren't really interested in sex during the day but would rather do other things, you will probably enjoy being in Havana. I enjoy walking around doing touristy things always checking out the girls. I love having that feeling, you know that feeling of anticipation knowing that your are getting layed later on that night by some beautiful, young chick. I love having that feeling all day, just letting it build up. I NEVER have that feeling in Canada. I love it.
I also enjoy when it starts getting later on into the day and early on into the evening. You start to notice the girls look a lot more relaxed. You will notice that they are starting to notice you more and are starting to make prolonged eye contact with you. Perhaps they have tomorrow off or it's Friday night and they are looking to hook up. Evening times are great in Havana.
Don't expect to find a ton of girls around in the evenings looking to hook up. But then again don't expect to see alot of competition from other mongers. I just don't think most guys can be bothered with the extra effort it takes to get a girl back to your casa compared to other countries. It is definetly a challenge. I go to Havana knowing it is challenging. I don't know Havana during the good old days when it wasn't a challenge. I think I kind of enjoy the challenge and all the leg work involved, the walking around, probing here and there and all over, talking to people, checking out new areas. If you like this sort of stuff then you may enjoy Havana. Personally I think just walking into a massage parlor and ordering a BJ would be kinda of dull.
I hope this information helps. I am really trying to be as honest as possible. I am heading back to Havana later on this year myself but I kinda know it is time to move on. Perhaps this will be my farewell tour.
Quackup,
Yes I know hotels are not girl friendly in Cuba.
Dran Reb,
Thanks for the detailed reply. I like taking advantage of what the city offers in the day time before taking advantage of the night life.
Haven't tried the multiple girls multiple days scenario. Though it sounds like fun. Don't mind putting in effort as well.
Still sounds like an adventurous risk to me, now that you point out that its now back to work from summer holidays for the girls.
An excellent report Dran,
You and I appear to have similar ideas on the hobby. I hope you enjoy your trip and would be fascinated to hear how you got on, I'd like to know did I just have a bad run of luck or whether the shocking decline in standards is general. Another poster here (can't remember his name) takes it very personally when you criticise the scene in Havana. He insists that it's fantastic, all you need is your own place, fluent Spanish and a car, well that kinda proves the point for me, it's just not worth the effort anymore.
As I mentioned I'm in Indonesia now and discovering the same old magic of picking up in bars and restaurants, scoring in shopping malls and even getting freebies. It's a real eyeopener, this being a predominantly Muslim country.
Old Thai Hand
10-12-04, 00:00
I'm a newbie to the Cuba scene as I have spent the last 8 years living in Thailand. I just got back from my first trip to Havana this weekend. While certainly not remotely like Thailand either in the availability or quality of girls (the latter based purely on personal preference), I still managed to have quite a good time and didn't have any trouble meeting pro-am freelancers rather than simply hardcore hookers.
Saturday afternoon was spent roaming around Obispo street where my buddy and I met a couple of girls at Cafe de Paris who took us around various cafes to listen to salsa before returning to our casa in Playa. I will admit that we had to walk behind them whenever we left a place because of the strong police presence. But, there was no hassle once we were sitting down in a bar. My girl was a totally Hispanic 21 y.o. kindergarten teacher and my buddy's girl worked in a daycare center. I don't know if this is typical. But, we noticed both on Saturday and Sunday afternoon that there were still plenty of girls around old Havana, including the Malacon in the cafes across from the old Castillo who made eye contact with us and in some cases even waved and blew kisses.
On Friday and Saturday night there were plenty of girls available from about 10 pm at a little snack bar on Calle 28 at #3 in Playa. Saturday night I met a mulatto university student there, who really wasn't too concerned with money so much as just having a good time. Her friend, a nurse went with my buddy both Saturday and Sunday. Emphasis seemed to be on just having fun, getting a few gifts and a little cash. My buddy saw his again on Sunday night and my student called me again on Sunday night wanting to come around the casa for another overnight stay. Although I declined because she wore me out on Saturday/Sunday morning, I feel that her motivation to call again was at least somewhat genuine interest and not just monetary.
BTW, we had a nice Casa on Calle 36 in Playa for $35. Very girl friendly. They even served my buddy's nurse friend breakfast this morning and didn't show any prejudice against her for spending the night. They treated her and us like family.
I've read many recent laments about the good old days being over in Cuba. If that's true, one can only imagine what that was like because it still seems to be a lot of fun and pretty easy to meet girls who aren't cold-hearted putas only after your wallet. Unless we were just lucky, I'd say that there are still lots of real GFEs to be had in Havana.
I will add that I'm 52 and my buddy is 60. We're not young bucks. But, I will also add that we live in the Bahamas and are aware that many Cuban girls want to meet expats living in the Bahamas because it's easy for them to come here and be live-in GFs for anywhere from 3-9 months. With the quality of life here compared to Cuba, I understand at least some of the reality of our attraction for Cuban women. Having said that, I still feel that there must be other Cuban girls who aren't solely mercenary.
Maverick207
10-13-04, 19:02
I am planning a trip to Havana Cuba in November, Can someone PM me with some girl-friendly casas and information. This will be my first trip to Cuba.
I go to Costa Rica and would gladly be able to help anyone who is interested in information regarding Costa Rica.
Thanks
Havana Moon
10-13-04, 23:25
Someone asked about Viagra in Cuba.
I don´t think you can get that overclassdrug in this country but if you go yo the pharmacia and ask about PePeH you get the same effect. The older cubans take it for figi- figi. It´s normaly for the heart but your little friend like it as any other new western sexmedical.
Van Fenchel
10-22-04, 08:27
Hi Guys,
Is anybody out there, planning to travel from Havana to Santiago by car, step by step.
I intend to do that early November and I'm looking for company. Taxi may be a bit expensive.
Any advise please PM me.
Thanks. VanFenchel
Havana Moon
10-26-04, 17:34
Why not take the touristbus with aircon?
I spent three days and nights in Havana in July. Booked the trip at the last minute, and got a casa on the internet. It was in Vedado, right by the ,and was OK but I would have preferred something with a private entrance. Book ahead, next time!
Got in Thursday night and checked out the area around . Picked up a sexy black girl, who performed marvelous PSE. Wasn’t the greatest looking, but had an outstanding ass. Pounding her doggy style facing a mirror with that beautiful black ass looking up at me was a pleasure.
A while back, somebody on the board said not to expect to find a fresh, innocent country girl in Havana. True for the bars, but who knows what you might pass on the street. Friday afternoon, I was walking past the Capitol when I saw this absolutely gorgeous young thing. Pretty face, tight little body and a pair of tits that looked like they could stand up all by themselves. I gave her my biggest smile and friendliest “Ola”, and she stopped to talk. She didn’t speak a word of English, and was a university student in the city, commuting in from the country. With my bad Spanish (she spoke no English) we managed to communicate sufficiently to make sure she was over 18 (she looked rather young) and we were off to find a room. After getting her out of her clothes, her body did not disappoint! This girl was a real sweetie, and had never been with a foreigner before. Afterwards, I bought her a new pair of shoes and got her address and phone number. I will definitely look her up, the next time I’m in town!
Went to the Casa de Musica in Centro, that night. Not much in the way of talent, but had a laugh talking, drinking and dancing with two nice Cuban couples. Walked home that night with a definite zig-zag to my step, after far too much to drink.
Saturday night I headed to the Marina. Checked out but nothing too impressive, so over to . Certainly some lovely talent here. Had two girls motion me over to their table, one a cute mulatto and the other a gorgeous Spanish. The mulatto tried to convince me to take her or both of them, but my eyes were fixed on the beauty. Made the famous mongerer mistake of picking the beauty over the more enthusiastic. She was a bit of a dead fish in bed, but lovely to look at.
I’d been to Cuba before for a beach vacation, but this was my first mongering trip. It isn’t Bangkok or Rio or Cartagena, but its worth the trip!
Havana Moon,
What you trying to do, kill me. Figi Figi might give me a heart attack. Might try to take some viagra with me. If its legal. Not that i'm impotent. Just feel like i need to get my moneys worth.
This rooms been fairly quiet. Anyone with any fresh news?
Is there any Indian Girls/ Chinese girls in cuba? Are they worth going for?
Looks like theres gonna be a 10 % tax for US dollars from 8 November.
Hooker prices might be affected.
Does anyone know what type of Electrical plugs are used in Cuba. Are they the same as the US? What Voltage also?
Are the Salsa joints a good place to pick up women? Are they more expensive down there?
Can anyone recommend any particular place in havanna to pick up bargain hookers?
I spent three days and nights in Havana in July. Booked the trip at the last minute, and got a casa on the internet. It was in Vedado, right by the ,and was OK but I would have preferred something with a private entrance. Book ahead, next time!
Got in Thursday night and checked out the area around . Picked up a sexy black girl, who performed marvelous PSE. Wasn’t the greatest looking, but had an outstanding ass. Pounding her doggy style facing a mirror with that beautiful black ass looking up at me was a pleasure.
A while back, somebody on the board said not to expect to find a fresh, innocent country girl in Havana. True for the bars, but who knows what you might pass on the street. Friday afternoon, I was walking past the Capitol when I saw this absolutely gorgeous young thing. Pretty face, tight little body and a pair of tits that looked like they could stand up all by themselves. I gave her my biggest smile and friendliest “Ola”, and she stopped to talk. She didn’t speak a word of English, and was a university student in the city, commuting in from the country. With my bad Spanish (she spoke no English) we managed to communicate sufficiently to make sure she was over 18 (she looked rather young) and we were off to find a room. After getting her out of her clothes, her body did not disappoint! This girl was a real sweetie, and had never been with a foreigner before. Afterwards, I bought her a new pair of shoes and got her address and phone number. I will definitely look her up, the next time I’m in town!
Went to the Casa de Musica in Centro, that night. Not much in the way of talent, but had a laugh talking, drinking and dancing with two nice Cuban couples. Walked home that night with a definite zig-zag to my step, after far too much to drink.
Saturday night I headed to the Marina. Checked out but nothing too impressive, so over to . Certainly some lovely talent here. Had two girls motion me over to their table, one a cute mulatto and the other a gorgeous Spanish. The mulatto tried to convince me to take her or both of them, but my eyes were fixed on the beauty. Made the famous mongerer mistake of picking the beauty over the more enthusiastic. She was a bit of a dead fish in bed, but lovely to look at.
I’d been to Cuba before for a beach vacation, but this was my first mongering trip. It isn’t Bangkok or Rio or Cartagena, but its worth the trip!
Easy all, It's been quiet in here. Maybe because the site has been so slow.
Havanna Moon, What are u trying to do to me? I wanted viagra not something which will give me a heart attack.!!
Is there an oriental or indian scene in havanna? Where is it?
Ive just seen Buttmans Bendover Brazillian babes 3 and I've got exited really
excited about cuba. I Hope cuban women have the same South american Booty.
How are the Salsa Bars. Are they a good place to pick up women. Is the quality good there? and also are they cheap.
This is not a mongering report but I agree with past posters that you go to Cuba for the country, the people and with that in mind, the mongering usually comes to you.
I went to Cuba to see my girlfriend in Santiago. I had a couple of days to kill in Havana waiting for my flight to Santiago and the flight to Cancun. I did not monger because I was with her sister who lives in Havana.
I did notice plenty of girls that were giving me the eye while strolling between the park where Coppelia ice cream is sold and the Hotel National. By the way, Coppelia is a good place to park and enjoy some good ice cream.
Here are a couple of restaurant recommendations. In Miramar, El Ajibe located on Avenida 7 between 24 and 26. For twelve dollars it's all you can eat chicken, rice, beans, bananas and some salad. If your plate of chicken is empty, just asked the waiter to bring you more. For those of you who live in L.A., it is similar to Versailles restaurant.
Gringo Vieja, not sure of the address but it is in Vedado. You will spend about $15 per person here. The food is good but since this is a paladar there is only about 5-6 tables. The rest of the time, my girlfriends sister cooked for me.
In Havana I stayed in the Nuevo Vedado area which is a nice quiet neighborhood, for $35 a night. If you want quiet, this is the place to be but to get anywhere, you do need a taxi.
Hope this helps,
Quackup
I have never been to Havana, and would like to go next week.
Are they Internet savy? Are there interenet cafes in the city?
What hotels do you recommend, and how do I get in touch with them?
Thanks
Quifhunter
11-16-04, 06:24
Since it is your first time and you are going next week you are probably best to stay at least one night in a hotel and look for a casa particular for the remainder of your visit. I once read on this forum that you must have a licensed casa or a hotel to stay at when you present yourself to customs officials. The last time I went I did not have time to get a response to casa requests so I just filled in the Hotel Inglaterra on the Customs form and stayed there the first night. I had a wonderful casa arranged by 10:00 the following morning.
Regarding internet, there are not as many as other places but they are available. The one I used was on Obispo in the heart of the tourist area of old Havana.
Organicgrowth
11-17-04, 12:24
i have never been to havana, and would like to go next week.
are they internet savy? are there interenet cafes in the city?
what hotels do you recommend, and how do i get in touch with them?
thanks
man,
in general (compared to any other country) cubans are all literate. their internet skills are restricted to students and those who use computers as part of work. this is not an issue of lack of academia, rather a lack of money and equipment, not forgetting unfettered access.
there are no internet cafes as we would understand the term, there are however public access internet points in the library and almost every hotel in havana, fees vary, as do connection speeds.
i would recommend just about every hotel in havana, they are all ok, offering the guest many wonderful features. however, as you will see from historical posts: hotels are not chica friendly!!! if you still want a hotel, just go online, do a search for havana+hotel and you can book rooms very easily. i would suggest a casa particular if you are going on your own: ask any taxi driver when you exit the airport and you will be able to get some really nice choices this time of year.
have an excellent trip.
regards, havanaman
ps. i just realised this is my 500th post! i must book myself in for a bbbj in celebration!
Hello Everyone,
What impact has the ban on US Dollars had on the hooker prices. Do they accept Dollars now? Or have they got more desperate and if so will I be able to get them at a cheaper rate. (Has Xmas Sales come Early for me).
Any one know about an Asian scene in Cuba.
What about anal? Nobody has mentioned Anal. Are Cuban women up for a bit of Back door Action. Been watching too many buttman in Brazil movies.
I know this aint brazil but if the women are only half as randy, i'm in for a good time.
Going to Havana early next year.
So how do I get a "casa" (private house).. What should I expect to pay? I would like one central. Any ideas from experienced visitors?
Any help appreciated,
Jacko
Hi,
Nobody mentions anal in these posts. Do cuban women take it up where the sun don't shine.
Why has this forum gone quiet.
I will be going in 2 weeks. I'll let you know the score. I think that i have enough information to start my filth
Hi!
I am going to Cuba for the first time in mid-December with two friends, and I understand that there are no girlfriendly Hotels in Cuba. We have booked a Hotel for the first nights, the plan is to move into a "Casa particular" after a couple of days.
I would be glad to receive recommendations both for Casas and nice areas in Havana. A friend told me about a few hotspots (some Years ago) called Copacabana Club, Marina and Commandore. These places still in business?
Thanks for any good advices...
Norehead,
Go to vedado in havanna. Its where the hustle and bustle is.
Also near the malecon (strip of road by the sea). Thats where you'll find the pussy action.
Hello Kader,
It's not easy finding anal sex in Havana. This is mostly because almost all of the girls have a university education and understand the dangers of overexposure to this form of pleasure.
It is most likely that you will have finger in the ass action and even some analingus. But most of the girls won't allow that banana in the backdoor.
I have not met any fellow mongers who were able to arrange this kind of action. If you do please let me know.
Alan
I once had a beautiful, sexy 18 year old Cuban girl actually ask me to do her in the ass. I was pleasantly surprised. I also banged a university girl from Havana in the ass. I spent 3 days with her. I figured she owed me some anal and I think she was comfortable with me so she didn't object. It was hilarious watching her bite into the pillow and seeing her eyes bug out. However, I think you will find more misses than hits when it comes to anal with Cuban girls.
I'm not really a huge anal fan. I'm actually kind of embarrassed to ask girls if I can do it to them in most cases. I find though that with Cuban girls if their not into anal, they will let you down in a nice way that won't ruin the mood. I think if your a big anal fan you should just ask. I've also just tried sticking my finger in their ass to see their reaction. When they didn't like it they just lightly brushed my hand aside and just kept on going with what they were doing. It didn't ruin the mood.
It has been dead around here lately. I should have a Havana report next month. Will see if the girls take my Canadian money. Later
Rebel Monger
11-25-04, 02:25
Alan, I might be wrong but I doubt that those women, having sex with foreigners in Cuba, are university educated, well, maybe a couple of them are. And even if they were, there's no such a thing as "sex education" in Cuba. Besides, if they were that educated, they wouldn't be having sex with men who go from country to country to have sex.
Did it occur to you that they don't engage in that kind of pleasure (!?) because (1) it's not really a pleasure and (2) they don't like it?
Please, don't get me wrong. I'm not different that you, I'm just another "sinner" (and love it). The difference is that I tend to (not) believe what those women say. And if they believe what I say, then I'm GOOD!
Peace!
Rebel Monger
11-25-04, 02:47
...A while back, somebody on the board said not to expect to find a fresh, innocent country girl in Havana. True for the bars, but who knows what you might pass on the street. Friday afternoon, I was walking past the Capitol when I saw this absolutely gorgeous young thing. Pretty face, tight little body and a pair of tits that looked like they could stand up all by themselves. I gave her my biggest smile and friendliest “Ola”, and she stopped to talk. She didn’t speak a word of English, and was a university student in the city, commuting in from the country. With my bad Spanish (she spoke no English) we managed to communicate sufficiently to make sure she was over 18 (she looked rather young) and we were off to find a room. ... Buddy, if she went to a room with you a few minutes after meeting you, she is NOT fresh and innocent, she just knows how to act as such! But maybe you were her first foreigner indeed.... that day!
Peace!
What's the best, most frugal way to get to Havanna? I saw some flights, but they were too expensive. i'm on a budget.
Organicgrowth
12-05-04, 11:09
Cyranatic,
Where are you flying from? Without this information it is difficult to make suggestions.
Regards, Havanaman
Smooth Loner
12-10-04, 22:20
Anybody can give some details about flying to Cuba from Cancun?
A guy who posted a long time said he was able to negotiate the price down to 100$. How is the deal right now?
When I went in late August, I flew on Aero-Carribe which is a subsidiary of Mexicana Airlines. The cost was $268 round trip, I bought my ticket in Tijuana. Hope this helps.
Quackup
Anyone know details on the alleged TJ to Habana flight?
Mexicana has a flight that connects into MC
Daily except Sat Depart Mexico City 9.30 a.m. Arrive Havana 1.10 p.m.
Sat Depart Mexico City 7.05 a.m. Arrive Havana 10.35 a.m.
Daily except Sat Depart Havana 2.10 p.m. Arrive Mexico City 4.05 p.m.
Sat Depart Havana 11.35 a.m. Arrive Mexico City 1.30 p.m.
Anyone know details on the alleged TJ to Habana flight?
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