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I don’t think they be rich, hope some of them do some good business on our trip. In my world I think this price is ok, why because in Sweden you have to pay 300-350 $/h.
I never try it in Sweden, but paid that money in USA, Japan, Taiwan mm many time. If you go to FF house in Germany you pay 50 € for 15-30 min go to Las Vegas and it takes 10 second from you filled the condom to the girl is out of the door (for 200-300 $). And I like to have people around me that serve and like me and not think am an as hole. If this means it destroy your " market " I am sorry for it. I go her to have a good time that means a lot of sex, but between the sex its very nice to have the possibility to talk and associate, with the people round you including the girls. The girl we meet in Havana last time was very educated and fun to be with (24h). I been with girls in Thailand and The Philippines that serve incredible sex, but its impossible to talk and have fun outside the bed. I think that some of the contribution in the forum defame the girls, this is the only way for them to make some extra many in this double economy. For as you sad the girls earn 10-20$ month and 1 litre of petrol is 1. 2$ they most earn money beside the system, al in Cuba must. As you probably understand I can afford that my vacation cost me for instance 2800$ instead for 2300$, for that I gat a lot of contacts in Havana and got better service under the time I been there. If I when I got there next time call one of the girls from my last trip, and offer her 40$ instead for 60-70 $ I’m sure she go with me, but do I got the same service? I think even you in your work, work better and give more if you got a better salary precisely like this girls. And if it cost me 3-4 beers moor on each girl on my most important time . My vacation its ok for me. I try to hold on my many, but I’m not spending my time on my vacation running round to get the cheapest of everything. I think that most of the time you got what you pay for.
Marcopolo767
03-24-06, 01:46
Hi Jonas, you don't know Cuba and Cubans. Sure you have had experinces all around the world but Cuba is diferent. Cuba is Cuba. It was the first trip for you in Cuba and you think tu know some things about Cuba and Cubans. I'm sure that in the next trip you can find all you had found in the last time. But even I'm sure you're going to think diferent. You can be many times in Cuba and when you think to know all about Cuba and Cubans, it can happen something or you can to meet someone taht you have to say: "I don't have understood anything about this country" Dear Jonas: Cuba is Cuba and the Cuban girls are the best. The best in any sense. The best in love. The best in deception too. All you have found is the same that we all have found and we find. Friendship, solidarity, social acquaintances of quality, promisis of eternal love for you, always and only for you. Yes, it is. But all that turn around at your money, at your "dinero". When a "chica" find a "turista" is good for her and for is family and friends because, in theese days, they all are going to have "comida" If for us is normal have breakfast, lunch and dinner, seven days a week, no so is for Cubans and, don't forget, the eternal love promised to me, is the same promised to you and it will be promis to a next tourist, perhaps arrived with te same aircraft you take to go home.
I'll be in Ciudad Habana for the 8th time from 03/26 to 04/09. If someone of you will be there, please contact me by mail.
Marco Polo
Jonas,
I do understand you, but try to barter the girls down. You'll be surprised. They'll stay with you for much less. For 100 $ u can have a whole handful of girls serving you 24 hours. Sure they ask for 100 $, because i bet your driver tells them you'll pay that. The more you pay the better he gets paid from them. But anyways, its your money & I dont think you distroy any market, because it's a once in a lifetime thing if a chica finds a tourist who's willing to pay her that much. Have fun!
I think Jonas and Marcopolo are both right. Cubanas are very nice. Like Jonas says: it is not only the sex but also the other things. Real GFE. But as Marcopolo says: finaly it is all about money and also: "Cuba is Cuba". Not always an easy country. There are always surprises. Sometimes good ones, sometimes bad ones.
About the prices payed. I think Jonas did pay too much. OK, no big deal. But lets not spoil the market. We don't want to pay US/Scandinavian prices in a few years. And beside that: more money doesn't always mean more fun. In Cuba I have scored great, eager girls for $10. But I must admit I also "scored" absolutely worthless girls for 60 CUC. Or better said: they scored me. Shame, shame, shame !!!
By the way: Marcopolo do read your mail.
Does anyone know if there has been a crackdown on the ladies in Havana? My best love has not e-mailed in many weeks (really months) and I'm a little worried about her. I thought I heard they were cracking down on some of the known women and perhaps she got caught up in that. What a shame. Any information will be helpful.
Thanks!
BeersTerry
03-29-06, 14:10
There has been a 'crackdown' for a while. Alot of people I know lost their black market internet connections and had to go looking for another one.
Truth Seeker
04-02-06, 15:17
E mail usuage has been severly curtailed on all fronts. Cubans who used to use e mail at their places of work can no longer do so. The only way you can get e mail at your place of work, if your job requires it. and even they are monitored. I have noticed that e mail sent to me from Cuba, from friends who are visiting, is that sometimes it takes 12/24 hours to arrive. Perhaps they are monitoring e mail at the central server. If you do correspond with anyone in Cuba, take care of what is said, names, places etc.
I just mailed with a friend in Havana. She sais, she doesnt know about any restrictions (at least not more than usual). She replied within 5 minutes.
Maybe your connections have found another wealthy yuma and moved to Italy or Mexico.
Hi guys
I'm in san jose right now and leaving for havana today. I should be in town until April 11th. In fact, I'm on a 10 week tour covering costa rica, cuba, dominican republic, venezeula, colombia, peru, bolivia, argentina, and brazil. My goal is to provide updated info from the places I'm going. The more help I get, the better my reports will be.
So does anybody have any info on current hot spots? I've gone through the last several months, and all I read is how bad things are, aside from jonas, who seems to have had a good time. (by the way jonas, was the price you quoted for the girls for the whole day/night? ) so far on my list of places to visit is, of course, the malecon and casa de la musica. Aside from that I'm planning on using my travel book to find clubs. I'm really am looking for gfe, all nighters. I'm 28 y. O. And I get mostly "7s" and "8s" at home in the US (for free), so I'm hoping to score mostly semi pros here. Does anybody have any good suggestions? if there is anybody in town (marcopolo, please check your mail) that would like to have a beer, please pm me. I'm not the "typical" american guy. I'm discreet, respectful, and generally a loner. But I need some help as I'm trying to cover several countries in a short time period. Thanks in advance for the help.
Go to this address to see my last reports: http: //www.Internationalsexguide.Info/forum/search. Php? searchid=1199796
If that link doesn't work at some point in the future, please let me know.
Yes it whas day/night 24 hour (service).
As you se in the report after my, i got a lot of barking for hi pricing of the girls
but they al was worth the mony, in my way to se it.
When we live our casa we had 58 breakfast to pay, 3 guy 10 days!
In regards to prices, when I went to the Casa de la Musica in Miramar, the Chicas were asking $ 80 CUC and would not go down, but they were all proffesionals with their cell phones, and know that all the tourist buses stop at those spots. I just enjoyed the music and the drinks, danced with a few of them and left to go see my chica that I only have to pay $30 CUC.
If you are willing to drive around town, and mingle with the locals, you never have to pay those prices. The average price you should give a "regular" chica is $30-35. And that for all night.
Hey fellas,
I just got back from my 6 week vacation to Cuba. I stayed most of the time in Havana in an area called La Vibora. In this area I was pretty much the only extranjero, and most of the girls were available. Almost every day I was invited to some familyhomes to have dinner with them and to get to know their daughters. Whenever I was walking around in this area some girls started to talk to me where I was from and said quiero ser tu novia which means I want to be your girlfriend. I think the suburbs of havana are better because you can avoid all the hardcore putas in the center and most of the girls turned out to be real girlfriends. You just have to take them out to dinner, buy them drinks in a club, show some interest in them and at the end of the day they will threat you very well. In Cuba it is necessary to be able to speak some spanish to communicate with the girls and to avoid hardcore putas you want to charge you ridiculos amounts of money. Most of the nightlife takes place at la rampa which is an area close to the hotel nacional and there are always lots of girls available. Please remember that in most of the clubs in this area it is just allowed to enter as a couple with una chica so what you do, is you just pick one who you like and there should not be any problem. I went there with a cuban friend and entered with 2 chicas, I just bought some cans of cerveza and talked to the girls, made them compliments and at the end of the night I fucked the one I liked better. At one point in my area I had round about 4-5 girlfriends and sometimes this can be a bit stressfull. I never had problemes with the police although the presence of the police was very heavy, but since you are a tourist and you bring money to cuba they leave you alone. During my tip only one time a policeofficer asked for my girlfriends ID (carnet) but everything was cool and you just have to say she is your girlfriend bla bla bla.
Some advices if you want to hook up with a regular girl
1. You should be able to speak some spanish
2. The agegap should not be to big
3. Show some interest in the girls, take her out, buy clothes, perfume and the sex will be for free.
Good hunting,
Hasta luego, mucho suerte
Hey fellas,
I just got back form my 6 week trip to cuba. I stayed most of the time in havana in area called la vibora. I was pretty much the only extranjero in this area and almost all the girls were available. Everynow and then I was invited to familyhomes to have dinner with them and to get to know their daughters. When I was walking around in this area girls started to talk to me were I was from and they always said quiero ser tu novia which means I want to be your girlfriend. I think that the suburbs of havana are much better then the center, because most girls turned to be real girlfriends and you can avoid all the hardcore putas in the center, and in the suburbs there is hardly any police. At one point I had 4 or 5 girlfriends which can be a bit stressfull as well. If anyone wants to go to cuba it is necessary to be able to speak some spanish to communicate with the girls and to avoid hardcore putas who want to charge ridiculos prices. In havana I always used taxis collectivos which is forbidden for extranjeros but nobody cares and all the cabdrivers were cool and I always payed the same pice as cubans did (10 pesos cubans). Most of the nightlife takes place in an area called la rampa close to the hotel nacional. At night there are lots of girls available and you can pick whatever you like. Please remeber that in most of these clubs you are just allowed to enter with a girl. I went there with a cuban friend and 2 chicas and just bought some cans of cerveza (1 cuc each) and talked to the girls, made them compliments and at the end of the night I fucked the one I liked better. During my stay the police presence was pretty heavy in the center and espcially during the weekends, but I never had any problemes with the police, since I am a tourist and I bring money to the country. In cuba I never paid for sex, you just have to take the girls out to dinner, buy them drinks at a club, perfume and sex will be for free. I can only repeat myself that it is necessary to speak spanish, because regular cuban people do not speak english, and to get to know regular girls without spanish is almost impossible.
Please be careful and do not go out alone at night as 2 times some people tried to rob me and my cuban friends protected me
Most of the cuban girls are not shaved!
Happy hunting,
Hasta luego, mucho suerte
Hey fellas,
Just returned from my 6 week trip to cuba. I stayed most of the time in havana in area called la vibora. In this barrio I was pretty much the only extranjero and most of the girls were available. Sometimes I was invited to familyhomes to have dinner with them and to get to know their daughters. I think the suburbs of havana are better then the center because most of the girls turned out to be real girlfriends, no hardcore putas and hardly no police. At one point I had 5 novias which was a bit stressfull at certain times. When I was walking around girls started to talk to me where I was from and all said quiero ser tu novia which means I want to be your girlfriend. Most of the nightlife takes place in an area called la rampa close to the hotel nacional. Especially during the weekends there are lots of girls who want to spend some time with extranjeros. I went there with my cuban friend and 2 chicas and just bought some cans of cerveza and talked to the girls, complimented them and at the end of the night I fucked the one I liked more. The police presence was pretty heavy especially in the center, at tourist hotspots and during the weekends. I have never had any problems with the police, because I am a tourist and bring some much needed money to cuba. During my trip one of girlfriends was asked to show her id (carnet) but besides that the police was not a porblem at all. In havana I always used taxis collectivos which is forbidden for tourist, but all the cabdrivers were cool about it and I payed the same amount of money as cubans (10 pesos cubanos).
If you want to hook up with a regular girl it is necessary to speak spanish, because people in cuba don t speak english, and you can get to know her, which most of the girls like a lot. I never paid for sex in cuba you just have to take the girls out to eat, buy clothes, perfume and sex will be for free. Most girls in cuba are not shaved!
Good hunting,
Hasta luego y mucho suerte
What was the casa you stayed in La Vibora? What it legal or on the left?
Where did you go out in the 10 de Octubre corridor? Did you go to discos El Brindis, Tunel, or Bonzai?
Did you happen to check out a paladar Doña Almira?
What was the casa you stayed in La Vibora? What it legal or on the left?
Where did you go out in the 10 de Octubre corridor? Did you go to discos El Brindis, Tunel, or Bonzai?
Did you happen to check out a paladar Doña Almira?I stayed at a casa particular with an 83 old woman and her daughter. The good thing was that I had my own entrance and they were gone most of the day. Local residents know who rents out places legal and illegal, the going rate was 15 cuc per day. I think the name of the street was vista alegre 2oosomthing. I checked out brindis because I lived right next to it. Brindis is 5 cuc entrance fee but that includes 2 cuba libres or beers for free, lots of local girls there, but a kind of small and you can't sit outside. I checked it out once but didn't really like it. Tunel is better and has more girls is bigger and they play better music as well. Most of the places were open during the weekend I didn't check out the dona almira as I went out most of the time in the center. In the center a good location for casas particulars is the edificio de america where the casa de la musica del centro is located
Hi guys
I'm in san jose right now and leaving for havana today. I should be in town until April 11th. In fact, I'm on a 10 week tour covering costa rica, cuba, dominican republic, venezeula, colombia, peru, bolivia, argentina, and brazil. My goal is to provide updated info from the places I'm going. The more help I get, the better my reports will be.
So does anybody have any info on current hot spots? I've gone through the last several months, and all I read is how bad things are, aside from jonas, who seems to have had a good time. (by the way jonas, was the price you quoted for the girls for the whole day/night? ) so far on my list of places to visit is, of course, the malecon and casa de la musica. Aside from that I'm planning on using my travel book to find clubs. I'm really am looking for gfe, all nighters. I'm 28 y. O. And I get mostly "7s" and "8s" at home in the US (for free), so I'm hoping to score mostly semi pros here. Does anybody have any good suggestions? if there is anybody in town (marcopolo, please check your mail) that would like to have a beer, please pm me. I'm not the "typical" american guy. I'm discreet, respectful, and generally a loner. But I need some help as I'm trying to cover several countries in a short time period. Thanks in advance for the help.
Go to this address to see my last reports: http: //www.Internationalsexguide.Info/forum/search. Php? searchid=1199796
If that link doesn't work at some point in the future, please let me know.If you want to hook up with regular girls you should be able to speak some spanish in order to approach them, avoid girls who approach you!
one hotspot in havana is the area around the hotel inglaterra and the cafe right next to it. In this area you will almost always find girls who want to spend time with foreigners. Another area is la Rampa close to the Hotel Nacional where most of the nightlife in Havana takes place. In this area who will find everything from hardcore pros to regular girls.
Another spot is the Malecon where you can also find girls who will most of the time approach you. If you have a car just drive around in Vedado or Miramar to find some girls. Check out calle Ovisbo, which is the main shopping street which leads to Harbor of Havana. Check out the suburbs of Havana!
Happy hunting
so I have just left havana, which means I finally have access to cheaper internet. Here is my report.
The first night I was very tired, but I walked around the malecon (vedado area) and was quickly approached by a "jinetero" named Edward who spoke english well and offered "casas or whatever I needed. " I took his number and continued on.
Then I caught a taxi to prado. I walked around the streets between prado and casa del musica (animas I think) and I was approached by another jinetero. This one quoted me $40, and I said I was too tired. He said "just look" and I love to look, so I followed him into what would appeared to be an abandoned building, and up a flight of stairs with no lights. In cuba, this is just a normal living situation. The girl was not too bad, but not hot either. I said I only had $20, he said that was fine, but I continued on my way, because I was too tired.
So I walk along the malecon when these well dressed guys who speak english and a little french approach me and ask for "for only one dollar" for rum. I liked the honesty so I gave it to them. Then they became my best friends. It was one of their "birthdays. " they ask me to join them drinking, I say i´m to tired, but they finally convince me. This is where I realize i´m about to be scammed. They have brought me a girl (who looks like she gets beat up) and about 8 of my new "friends" are going to a bar, where i´m expected to pay for everybody. This is a common scam. I met some people on the plane who had the same thing happen to them. Everybody who is having a birthday or anniversary (and approaches you in english) is probably scamming you. They may even take you to a bar or restaurant with a double menu. The one they give you is 50% to 100% more than normal. Cuba has more con arists than i´ve seen in my life. It´s even worse than morocco. Fortunately I saw what was happening, bought 4 beers and walked out.
The next day I meet a non pro or semi pro on the malecon. I want a gfe, so I ask her what she´s doing, if she would like to go to dinner, whatever. She takes me to her house, we pick up her brother (to walk ahead for cops) and go to a place with $15 lobster. This girl starts scamming me quickly! I tell the people I have only $30, and all of the sudden the price goes to $10 per person. (cause 3 times $10 is $30). Her brother actually asks me why I don´t have more money. I wanted to punch him dead in his face. Anyway, we leave, go to a reggae party, and when I tell her i´m ready to go, she says she can´t go with me, cause of her mother or something. I didn´t understand, because my spanish sucks. So strike 2 for me.
The next night I walk around the streets of centro and a jinetero speaking english approaches me. He takes me to this place and hooks me up with a girl who gives me BBBJCIM (thank you god) for $10. I give him $3 for the good job. Finally score one for jeremy! the girl wasn´t ugly, but not young and skinny like I was looking for. The service, however, was great.
The next night i´m walking the streets of centro again, when I see a large group of cubans dancing in the street. I want to be a part of it, so I go straight to the center, but then 2 girls grab me and usher me out. They say it isn´t safe because my bag (with my camera and stuff) will be snatched. They walk me to my casa and we´re stopped by the police. We talk, I tell the guy they are taking me back for safety, he lets us go. (there really are lots of cops on almost every corner in the tourist areas, but the only seem to give shit to the locals.) the girls want to spend the night, but when we get inside the light of my casa, I see they are fatter and not as pretty as I thought, so I get rid of them.
The next night, I get a hot girl. The jinetero tell me $20. This girl is young (like 20 y. O.) and a dancer so she is fine and has the dark kinky hair i´ve been wanting. Everything goes well (BBBJ and sex) until the jinetero comes to pick her up an hour later. This guy starts telling me there was a miscommunication and she wants $50. I´m willing to give a little more, cause she was worth it. The problem was, when I stepped out ot the room this guy goes through my bags and steals about $50. I thought it was well hidden, but he was fast. I didn´t realize it happened until they were gone. I´m just glad they didn´t take my passport or any important papers in the same pocket of my bags.
So my final night I call up Edward who I met earlier. He arranges for me to go out with a real non pro. She was very pretty and very shy, but she didn´t want to spend the night because of her baby. Edward never asked for any money, only that I help him read a little bit in english (he was trying to get a better job). If anybody wants his number, he is the only jinetero who really treated me well.
A couple of things I forgot to mention. I spent over 2 hours in customs upon arrival, so they could make sure I didn´t have porn or banned electronics. There were more dogs in the havana airport than i´ve seen in my life. And calle 23 & malecon (and havana in general) has more gays then i´ve ever seen. Apparently, the gays don´t get hassled by the cops the way girls do. Go figure.
So my summary of cuba is, go somewhere else. The girls are beautiful until they hit about 25, then their skin looks like they get beat up or do drugs or something. As a tourist, you are just a walking dollar bill. There are a few honest people, but you really must speak spanish very well here. You will also get ripped off nearly everyday, so expect it. It´s the way of life here. There are much better places to monger, at least that´s my opinion.
Adios
Hey fellas,
Most girls in cuba are not shaved!
Good hunting,
Hasta luego y mucho suerteYa you just reminded me to pack my shaving kit. P. kind of had problems first time with that aspect of extreamlly harry legs. especially if the body and face are really beautifull.
so I have just left havana, which means I finally have access to cheaper internet. Here is my report.
The first night I was very tired, but I walked around the malecon (vedado area) and was quickly approached by a "jinetero" named Edward who spoke english well and offered "casas or whatever I needed. " I took his number and continued on.
Then I caught a taxi to prado. I walked around the streets between prado and casa del musica (animas I think) and I was approached by another jinetero. This one quoted me $40, and I said I was too tired. He said "just look" and I love to look, so I followed him into what would appeared to be an abandoned building, and up a flight of stairs with no lights. In cuba, this is just a normal living situation. The girl was not too bad, but not hot either. I said I only had $20, he said that was fine, but I continued on my way, because I was too tired.
So I walk along the malecon when these well dressed guys who speak english and a little french approach me and ask for "for only one dollar" for rum. I liked the honesty so I gave it to them. Then they became my best friends. It was one of their "birthdays. " they ask me to join them drinking, I say i´m to tired, but they finally convince me. This is where I realize i´m about to be scammed. They have brought me a girl (who looks like she gets beat up) and about 8 of my new "friends" are going to a bar, where i´m expected to pay for everybody. This is a common scam. I met some people on the plane who had the same thing happen to them. Everybody who is having a birthday or anniversary (and approaches you in english) is probably scamming you. They may even take you to a bar or restaurant with a double menu. The one they give you is 50% to 100% more than normal. Cuba has more con arists than i´ve seen in my life. It´s even worse than morocco. Fortunately I saw what was happening, bought 4 beers and walked out.
The next day I meet a non pro or semi pro on the malecon. I want a gfe, so I ask her what she´s doing, if she would like to go to dinner, whatever. She takes me to her house, we pick up her brother (to walk ahead for cops) and go to a place with $15 lobster. This girl starts scamming me quickly! I tell the people I have only $30, and all of the sudden the price goes to $10 per person. (cause 3 times $10 is $30). Her brother actually asks me why I don´t have more money. I wanted to punch him dead in his face. Anyway, we leave, go to a reggae party, and when I tell her i´m ready to go, she says she can´t go with me, cause of her mother or something. I didn´t understand, because my spanish sucks. So strike 2 for me.
The next night I walk around the streets of centro and a jinetero speaking english approaches me. He takes me to this place and hooks me up with a girl who gives me BBBJCIM (thank you god) for $10. I give him $3 for the good job. Finally score one for jeremy! the girl wasn´t ugly, but not young and skinny like I was looking for. The service, however, was great.
The next night i´m walking the streets of centro again, when I see a large group of cubans dancing in the street. I want to be a part of it, so I go straight to the center, but then 2 girls grab me and usher me out. They say it isn´t safe because my bag (with my camera and stuff) will be snatched. They walk me to my casa and we´re stopped by the police. We talk, I tell the guy they are taking me back for safety, he lets us go. (there really are lots of cops on almost every corner in the tourist areas, but the only seem to give shit to the locals.) the girls want to spend the night, but when we get inside the light of my casa, I see they are fatter and not as pretty as I thought, so I get rid of them.
The next night, I get a hot girl. The jinetero tell me $20. This girl is young (like 20 y. O.) and a dancer so she is fine and has the dark kinky hair i´ve been wanting. Everything goes well (BBBJ and sex) until the jinetero comes to pick her up an hour later. This guy starts telling me there was a miscommunication and she wants $50. I´m willing to give a little more, cause she was worth it. The problem was, when I stepped out ot the room this guy goes through my bags and steals about $50. I thought it was well hidden, but he was fast. I didn´t realize it happened until they were gone. I´m just glad they didn´t take my passport or any important papers in the same pocket of my bags.
So my final night I call up Edward who I met earlier. He arranges for me to go out with a real non pro. She was very pretty and very shy, but she didn´t want to spend the night because of her baby. Edward never asked for any money, only that I help him read a little bit in english (he was trying to get a better job). If anybody wants his number, he is the only jinetero who really treated me well.
A couple of things I forgot to mention. I spent over 2 hours in customs upon arrival, so they could make sure I didn´t have porn or banned electronics. There were more dogs in the havana airport than i´ve seen in my life. And calle 23 & malecon (and havana in general) has more gays then i´ve ever seen. Apparently, the gays don´t get hassled by the cops the way girls do. Go figure.
So my summary of cuba is, go somewhere else. The girls are beautiful until they hit about 25, then their skin looks like they get beat up or do drugs or something. As a tourist, you are just a walking dollar bill. There are a few honest people, but you really must speak spanish very well here. You will also get ripped off nearly everyday, so expect it. It´s the way of life here. There are much better places to monger, at least that´s my opinion.
AdiosIn Havana especially in center ignore people male and female who want to talk to you. the only thing they want is your money to rip you off. if you want to hook up with a regular girl avoid the center and all the tourist hotspot as most of the girls in this area are hardcore pros. instead go to the suburbs of havana where you can find real girls who don`t want to rip you off. One of my cuban friend once said to me that all the people in the center who approach you are la basura de nuestra sociedad which means they are the trash of the cuban society! Never trust a cuban you just met in the center, malecon as they just try to scam you. In Havana don`t flash with money, digital camera, jewelery as you will catch the attention of certain people. stay safe
Grey Soul 15
04-15-06, 03:41
Cuba has more con arists than i´ve seen in my life. It´s even worse than morocco.lol Is that possible? Morrocco as a whole is bad but Tangers where you first come in is pure tourist hell!
lol Is that possible? Morrocco as a whole is bad but Tangers where you first come in is pure tourist hell!From my experience in Marrakesh, people are trying to charge you 10 times what something is worth, but you are expected to haggle. Even when you get "ripped off, " it is normally because you are uninformed on an item's value and you walk away feeling good, thinking you got a good deal. I don't consider that as much as a "con" as both myself and my friends experienced almost everyday in havana. I felt much more betrayed and deceived in my cuba experience. But like I said, that is only my opinion, however my friend felt the same way, and he speaks spanish fluently (and lives in costa rica), so the language didn't help him. It just made him vulnerable to that many more people (the ones who can't even speak english).
From my experience in Marrakesh, people are trying to charge you 10 times what something is worth, but you are expected to haggle. Even when you get "ripped off, " it is normally because you are uninformed on an item's value and you walk away feeling good, thinking you got a good deal. I don't consider that as much as a "con" as both myself and my friends experienced almost everyday in havana. I felt much more betrayed and deceived in my cuba experience. But like I said, that is only my opinion, however my friend felt the same way, and he speaks spanish fluently (and lives in costa rica), so the language didn't help him. It just made him vulnerable to that many more people (the ones who can't even speak english).In general avoid the center of havana and most of the tourist hot spots where you gonna find most of the people who try to scam you. One time my cuban friend told me that all the people who approach you are la basura de le sociedad cubana which means they are the trash of the cuban society. In the center don't be afraid to be rude to get rid of some people. Some phrases which work most of the time are deja me en paz (leave me alone), fechate (fuck off) estoy palmiche (I am dead broke), usted no me molesta (leave me alone but with a stronger meaning), or just use no entiendo (I don't understand). By far the best way to deal with this kind of people is to ignore them and to keep on walking. In the center never trust a cuban as they try to get as much money as possible out of your pocket. Ignore people who try to sell you cigars, rum, know good bars as you end up paying the bill, mothers who want money to buy milk for their babies (milk till the age of 7 is free in cuba) in general people who say hola amigo de donde es usted (hey my friend where are you from) and usually try some conversation about some friends who play music and travelled to your country recently bla bla bla.
For most cubans tourists are simply rich because they average cuban income is round about 10 - 15 usd per month. One more time be careful when people approach you cause they have dollar signs in front of their eyes when they see tourists. Have fun
Member #4643
04-23-06, 19:15
Ignore ...mothers who want money to buy milk for their babies (milk till the age of 7 is free in cuba)...
I was asked to donate money for milk at least once a day when I was in Cuba. I wish I had known that milk is free. On one occasion, a father asked me for money for his baby whom he said had never had cow's milk in her life. When we went into the tienda to buy milk (I never give away money), he ordered oil and flour instead (I bought him a bag of powdered milk as we had agreed and left). On another occasion, a 10 year old asked me for milk for his younger brother. The younger brother (he must have been 5 years old) subsequently approached the two of us and told me that HE had a younger brother who had never had milk- would I care to donate? Their scam was so funny that I offered to buy them a glass of milk at the bar. Instead, they chose some type of Cuban cola.
No doubt about it, the Cubans like the milk scam! Of course, I was always delighted to trade leche for affection when asked by the right person.
BeersTerry
04-23-06, 21:31
Havana is not what it used to be. The scamming is getting to be pretty bad
Cine Yara area (La Rampa y L) is where all the transvestites hang out.
Havana is not what it used to be. The scamming is getting to be pretty bad
Cine Yara area (La Rampa y L) is where all the transvestites hang out.In the center of Havana don't be afraid to become rude in order to get rid of people. Another thing which works most of the times when somebody tries to approach you is to keep on walking, or simply to ignore that particular person. During my trip I figured out that once you are with cuban people (girls) people don't try to scam you and most of the time your girl will protect you because she knows their game. Another thing which worked most of the time during my stay was to use headphones, so most people assume that you are listening to music and they don't even try to talk to you, or walk in groups, because once you walk alone you are an easier target. In general use your head and you will avoid most the scams and never trust a cuban you just met in the center. Once a cuban friend told me that all the people who approach you are la basura de la sociedad cubana which means they are the trash of the cuban society. Just keep that phrase in mind and you will be fine.
Have fun
I forgot to mention another hotspot where you can hook up with semi pros or real cuban girls the university of havana. If you speak spanish it is certainly easier to get in touch with the girls, but nothing is impossible. During my trip in Dec/Jan I visited la Universidad de la Habana and got to know some real nice cuban girls. For all you guys who want to get to know a real nice chica cubana and maybe learn some spanish this is the place to be. Most of them are willing to give you clases de espanol for 2-3 cuc per hour which is almost nothing and you have the possibility to get laid as well. As we all know cuba is very poor country, and most people want to leave especially highly educated people the whole area of the university is a very good target to pick up some cuties. One of the only possiblities of leave Cuba is to marry an extranjero so most of the girls are eager to get to know extranjeros. Another positive aspect is the zero police presence at the university. I got to know one of my novias at the univeristy, as I approached her if she could give me clases de espanol. We exchanged numbers and the next day she showed up at my casa particular and things went from there. Have fun.
Rebel Monger
04-28-06, 20:53
In general avoid the center of havana and most of the tourist hot spots where you gonna find most of the people who try to scam you. One time my cuban friend told me that all the people who approach you are la basura de le sociedad cubana which means they are the trash of the cuban society. In the center don't be afraid to be rude to get rid of some people. Some phrases which work most of the time are deja me en paz (leave me alone), fechate (fuck off) estoy palmiche (I am dead broke), usted no me molesta (leave me alone but with a stronger meaning), or just use no entiendo (I don't understand). By far the best way to deal with this kind of people is to ignore them and to keep on walking. In the center never trust a cuban as they try to get as much money as possible out of your pocket. Ignore people who try to sell you cigars, rum, know good bars as you end up paying the bill, mothers who want money to buy milk for their babies (milk till the age of 7 is free in cuba) in general people who say hola amigo de donde es usted (hey my friend where are you from) and usually try some conversation about some friends who play music and travelled to your country recently bla bla bla.
For most cubans tourists are simply rich because they average cuban income is round about 10 - 15 usd per month. One more time be careful when people approach you cause they have dollar signs in front of their eyes when they see tourists. Have funI have no doubt about the milk scam. Things have changed a lot in the island. When I lived there, most were proud and asked for nothing, the did steal from the government anything they could.
About the milk being free until the age of seven, not true. You are allowed to buy milk for your children until they are seven years of age through the "ration book" (libreta). The confusion might not be your fault, as Cuban tend to say "te dan x", which means give, but in reality it means that you're allowed to buy. Next time you go there, just ask, or better yet, go with the person to the store when he/she goes to get the free milk!
I have been in cuba since December. Since I am ugly and short I have had no luck.
And worst of all, I am Hispanic, I am brown skinned. Many many here think I am cuban, even the police. So I try and try. But nothing. Clarification--I try to get the free pussy. dinner, drinks and pussy.
I am lazy. I went to bayamo and stayed a month. since I had to come back to Havana to leave after two months and come back, I stayed in Havana.
I know the hard hard core women are here, so my bad luck is greatest here.
Maybe for the last two weeks I will go to Isla.
But I have had pussy. Not just the kind I want.
Any questions, pm me.
Organicgrowth
05-14-06, 22:26
Driedup
I am quite sad to have read your post. Listen man: hold your head high and try different tactics… Show your money if you have to, dress to impress, and when you are with a chica make her feel like the Latin goddess she is….
If finding “free” chicas is difficult go online and join one of the agencies like www.cybercupido.com become a gold member, it will cost you like $10….nothing… There are hundreds of chicas in Cuba (specifically Havana) who go online everyday… Start from there and let them know you are a extranjero rico de cualquier país….. get my point.
I wish you luck friend. Just remember you are a man and not some mouse…. Hold your head up man…
Regards, Havanaman
El Cubanito
05-18-06, 21:28
Man, I have seen some ugly guys with in Havana or any part of Cuba with some nice candy in their arms. I met this FAT Mexican dude in Central Havana who was getting good pussy action.
It must be something with you. Listen, last summer I was in Cuba from July 31 to September 29 and my Dick can not get hard enough from all of the pussy action that I got.
If you go to the campos you even get more. I found some 8 and 9 in the campos and all they wanted was a beer. I do not know what you are doing wrong.
El Cubanito
Grey Soul 15
05-21-06, 14:34
Man, you weren't liying about CyberCupido.com they have a ton of Cuban chicks. But the question is how do they get on there in the first place? I thought internet access was tightly restricted in Cuba.
Organicgrowth
05-21-06, 19:58
Grey Soul 15
That’s a good question GS. It is restricted, but also remember it is available at work, in college, rich friends houses… etc… where there is a will there is a way. In fact I have had “relations” with a hard-core pro who wanted to try the old “I love you lets get married…” trick…. i.e. it was a well baited line cast on the ocean of cyberspace… I recognised here within a nanosecond of seeing the pic she sent me as one of the chicas who regularly walked the hotel Inglaterra beat…
Very early I thought about this question too, so once I had joined and got some email action going guess what I asked! The answer is simple and I guess should have been obvious… it is that the majority of the chicas online are at work and if they are working in jobs with a computer near them they make full use of it….
Man I tell you, over the past 12 months this has been one of the best finds I have made… I have been over 4 times since cybercupido helped me make contact and nailed every one of the contacts…. My only problem was juggling the chicas, because once they know where you are staying there is a strong chance they might camp outside your place!
Regards, Havanaman
PS. The best action is when you go for gold membership: the chicas then “know” you mean it…
Short report from Habana.
Did 8 days week 20-21.
Big problems with the police, 2 times same day grip of the police me and my friend + our 2 GFE.
First time at beach cost us 20 UCU to get them released, we use to have no problems there.
Second time worse, the police kept guarding our casa particular and 2 a clock in the morning they pick us up when we get home, and force the girls to the police station for 2 hours.
There they steal theirs many, and after that they bring them back to the casa on the condition that we pay them further 60 CUC.
This happened in Miramar last week, and the casa owner tell us that some of the police started to cheek up ho rent witch house.
And after that they blackmail for many.
Additional warning, first day picket up an beautiful 9-10 p she tell me she was 19 years old, casa owner didn’t let her in because she turn out to be 17, that had be expensive if the police grab me.
Apart from this it was additional fantastic week in Habana.
Abut the internet access there is no problem to get it, our GFE tell us.
The problem is at it cost 30 CUC/month that a lot of money for an Cuban.
[Second time worse, the police kept guarding our casa particular and 2 a clock in the morning they pick us up when we get home, and force the girls to the police station for 2 hours.
There they steal theirs many, and after that they bring them back to the casa on the condition that we pay them further 60 CUC.
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Jonas,
If I understand correctly the police took the girls to the the station for 2 hrs and then brought them back!! My question is how well did you know those 2 girls? From what you say, it would appear to me that the girls were in on it. I have never heard of the police taking girls to the station and then bring them back. Then again, it is Cuba.
Cubiche
Organicgrowth
06-04-06, 13:43
Cubiche, Jonas
This is an interesting point you raise Cubiche.
I wonder if this is some form of new scam, as I have not heard about this before. I personally have been taken to a police station for not having ID (…this was last year!) and got “booked in” and received a lecture on the law and then let go to walk back in the dark…. Just my luck the electricity was taking an evening off! However once you get booked in, the “arresting” officers just go back on the beat, leaving you in the care of the station duty officers… It would seem that in this case they bought the chicas back! Very strange indeed.
Jonas, I’m glad you had a nice time and that your episodes did not spoil things for you. This is a good attitude because Cuba is full of ups and many downs…
Another new issue to watch for I guess.
Regards,
BeersTerry
06-05-06, 16:29
Personally speaking, Cuba is tough. The cops harass you and/or your chica. The food is lousy. Everything is overpriced. The Cubanas, though, rock your world! ...better than most other latin countries.
El Cubanito
06-05-06, 16:52
That is why I like to go to the campos. No hassle from no policia and the people are much, much friendlier than Havana. I have been treated very well in the campos by the locals and the girls are great.
El Cubanito
Rebel Monger
06-05-06, 17:11
[Second time worse, the police kept guarding our casa particular and 2 a clock in the morning they pick us up when we get home, and force the girls to the police station for 2 hours.
There they steal theirs many, and after that they bring them back to the casa on the condition that we pay them further 60 CUC.
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Jonas,
If I understand correctly the police took the girls to the the station for 2 hrs and then brought them back!! My question is how well did you know those 2 girls? From what you say, it would appear to me that the girls were in on it. I have never heard of the police taking girls to the station and then bring them back. Then again, it is Cuba.
CubicheIf you notice, most policemen in Cuba are not the kind who could get some free pussy easily, so they blackmail the working girls in order to get into their panties. IMHO, they didn't take those ladies to the police station, but to a dark alley to fuck them.
About paying the police to give you a break, that's a scam and the gals are in it too. It seems to me that Cuba is getting worst by the day.
El Cubanito
06-05-06, 20:04
Yes, the Cuban police does get alot of action. They have been known to even pick up girls who are sitting in front of their own home and accusse them that they are being prostitute. So in order for these girls NOT to go to jail they tell them that they have to do the deed.
That is low man.
El Cubanito
I no the girls wery well.
The problem with the girls was that they get in from the country to met us,
and as we no the police have the right to send them home.
If they have to do som sex with the police the dont tell us that abut it of course.
That is why I like to go to the campos. No hassle from no policia and the people are much, much friendlier than Havana. I have been treated very well in the campos by the locals and the girls are great.
El CubanitoI absolutely agree with El cubanito that the center of havana is a though place to monger and you gonna meet most likely hard core pros who have dollar signs in front of their eyes. I also have to say that other parts of the city like la vibora, la lisa, cerro some parts of vedado are a paradise for mongers. NO other tourists means no competition, hardly any police and tons of semi pros or regular cuban girls who are all eager to meet extranjeros.
In general i would avoid most the tourist areas as people try to rip you off or try to scam you.
Have fun
Short report from Habana.
Did 8 days week 20-21.
Big problems with the police, 2 times same day grip of the police me and my friend + our 2 GFE.
First time at beach cost us 20 UCU to get them released, we use to have no problems there.
Second time worse, the police kept guarding our casa particular and 2 a clock in the morning they pick us up when we get home, and force the girls to the police station for 2 hours.
There they steal theirs many, and after that they bring them back to the casa on the condition that we pay them further 60 CUC.
This happened in Miramar last week, and the casa owner tell us that some of the police started to cheek up ho rent witch house.
And after that they blackmail for many.
Additional warning, first day picket up an beautiful 9-10 p she tell me she was 19 years old, casa owner didn’t let her in because she turn out to be 17, that had be expensive if the police grab me.
Apart from this it was additional fantastic week in Habana.
Abut the internet access there is no problem to get it, our GFE tell us.
The problem is at it cost 30 CUC/month that a lot of money for an Cuban.Last time I was in havana in February I never had any problems with the police once one my novias had to show her carnet, but I was never in trouble with the police. In general I would say it helps a lot to stay away from the center of havana and all the tourist areas. Next time you should try and get a casa particular in another barrio of Havana like La Lisa, Cerro, La Vibora as there is hardly any police, and people in general are different than people from the center. Have fun
Rebel Monger
06-10-06, 18:15
hard core pros who have dollar signs in front of their eyes.I would like to know who doesn't have a dollar sign in front of their eyes in Cuba, and that includes even our own family!
"This happened in Miramar last week, and the casa owner tell us that some of the police started to cheek up ho rent witch house."
I returned from Havana last month. Cuban friends told me that during the next month there will be a serious crackdown in Miramar. That approves my info.
"This happened in Miramar last week, and the casa owner tell us that some of the police started to cheek up ho rent witch house."
I returned from Havana last month. Cuban friends told me that during the next month there will be a serious crackdown in Miramar. That approves my info.It is not a crackdown on casa particulars per se. The "Cumbre" (Conference of Non-aligned Nations) is in September with many of the activities happening in Miramar. There will be several world leaders and it is very important politically that everything goes well. Therefore, Cuba has been paving roads, painting houses and making other preparations. Part of those preparations include knowing who is where (this includes checking who is living in EVERY house, not just casa particulars), primarily of security purposes. Therefore, if someone is not where they are suppose to be, they will be asked to leave.
AlLostInSpace13
07-08-06, 12:44
Hello All,
I haven't been back to Cuba ever since the monetary change. At the back of my mind, I thought it was getting expensive. It's been 2 years. Recently I saw a good last-minute deal to the Breezes Jibacoa resort, so I went for it.
Breezes Jibacoa is half way between Veradero and Havana, so that means it's in the middle of no where. The resort was fine and the food was acceptable. Action within the resort is impossible. Only a few good looking workers there. I spoke to one of the male workers there and was told to go to Canasi or Santa Cruz. He said I could pick up chicas on the street... I signed up for a couple of scooter tours around the area. Thoroughly checked out Canasi and Santa Cruz. While Canasi is hopeless - only one main street with a police right smack in the middle of it - , Santa Cruz has got some potential. It's much bigger and I saw a few good looking black and white chicas, however this city doesn't have the necessary infrastructure, i.e. no/few restaurants or bars.
So I hopped on the next Havana tour bus. The driver asked for $15 for a one-way ride. No problem. Got dropped off at the rum factory in Old Havana. I quickly found my old casa. Marta was still asking for $35, but obviously she wants CUC now. Yes, this means a +20% hike in rent, but I liked her no-questions-asked style and I had no time to shop around.
That same night I went for a walk to the Prado. I walked along the Malecon and the sun was still up, so not too too many people on it yet. Shortly before making the turn to the Prado, a young chica stopped me. With her broken English she asked me if I want to fuck. I was horny but she looked too young. Upon checking her carnet, I realized she was 19. Acceptable but still too young for me. Since I just landed on Cuba, my North American values are still intact. She has a baby face and I just can't do it. I kept telling her "too young", but she didn't know what I meant. Anyways, back to the Prado.
The Prado wasn't as uplifting as in the past but there were still a few lookers. Remember that in Cuba/Havana, the chicas cannot initiate the conversation, so if you're interested, you have to make the first move. After all that walking, I was tired and I went into a roadside bar. There was a nice blond sitting in the corner with her bf and there was a black girl at the other end. I sat down for a beer by myself and in no time striked up a conversation with the black chick.
We agreed on $30 for ST. Took a cab to my casa. I thought all black chicks have really tight pussies, but this one wasn't very tight, but it was acceptable. And she rode me like there was no tomorrow. I came in no time. Paid her and off I went back to the Prado.
It was around 9pm and I just went past the Inglaterra hotel and central park and I saw 3 chicas putting their dancing shoes on. One of them was a good looking blond. Hey, what the fuck, I went and tried to start a conversation. 2 policemen walked by and they ignored us. They wanted to go to a disco. That was fine with me, but I thought paying entrance fees to casa de la musica for 4 people might be stiff. The girls said it was cheap and so I went for it.
We took a cab to the Disco Vegas - it's some where in Vedado. Cover charge was $3/person. So no problem, I could afford that. The girls wanted mojitos but I didn't want to fall for the tourist trap, so I bought a bottle of 7years old Havana Club for $30 and a few colas for mixing. That was a good move. We all started drinking and dancing and the girls taught me how to salsa.
Patricia was the blond. Very pretty with dimples. Lilly was the brunette with big tits. And the other tom boy whom I didn't know her name, so I'll call her Rosy. We had a great time and the disco was great too! There was some sort of a mini tropicana show. We finished the bottle and I couldn't walk a straight line, I guess that was true for all of us. Rosy asked me which girl would I want for the night. That was a tough question.
At closing time, Rosy suggested we go back to her home. So we took a cab deep into Old Havana. Apparently the three girls lived together at the top floor of an old colonial building. They didn't know but I was really interested in looking at the inside of one of these old buildings. And there I was going up the stairs. The poor girls lived in a dump (in N.A. standard), there was minimal furniture, no bathroom facility. I was led into Patricia's room and I sat on her bed with her. The other girls disappeared. She showed me her tits but I wasn't in the mood. I had a great time at the disco and made 3 friends and I did not want to bang her... may be I was drunk or something. Any how, I fell asleep. Rosy came in and woke me up. It was time to go. I went downstairs took a private cab back to the casa by myself. That was about 3am.
The next day same beginning. Went to the Prado but found nothing. Went into the roadside bar again. No chica this time. The bartender told me my "black woman is coming", so I left the place immediately - no reason to bang the same woman twice. Walked towards the Malecon. Lots of chicas. First chica - white chic but with bad teeth. Next. Second chica - white chic with long brunette curly hair. I wanted to go to dancing with her, but she refused. She said she couldn't go unless it was a Friday because of the police. Screw that. Next. Third chica, Yiriana - white chic with perky tits and lovely face but spoke zero English. With my limited Spanish, I understood that disco was not possible either. And we agreed on $40 ST.
Quick cab ride back to the casa. She demanded money up front. My spider senses told me something is wrong and so I refused. She insisted and I did too. So the deal was off and I walked her out. She asked for taxi money and of course I said no. We argued for a long time. I began to realize that she wasn't out to cheat me, so I agreed to pay her the money up front. So back to the casa, undressed and gave her $40.
As it turned out, she was on her period. It didn't bother me and we did it standing up. Tiny waist and nice round ass. After the deed, I went to the jazz bar to listen to some music. Didn't get luck at the jazz bar.
The next day same story. Went to Prado then the Malecon. A couple bartenders said they had good chicas at the bar, so I went with them. It turned out the chica was Yiriana again. This time we agreed on $30 ST. The bartender charged me $15 for 3 mojitos. What a ripoff!
I think this post is getting too long. So just let's say I banged another chica for $40 (or was it $50) before leaving Havana. The trip was a bit pricey, but I had a good time.
BeersTerry
07-10-06, 21:39
Pricey ? Hell, I just spent a couple of weeks in Medellin and that was pricey!
Vedado Fun
07-11-06, 18:52
I just got back from 8 days in Havana. It was hot as hell this time.
I arranged to stay at a Casa called Concha's near Havana University. When I got there they said the room was no longer available even though I had a reservation. Some lady who spoke a little English took me around to a couple of other places in the area but I wasn't happy with any of them and the fact that they didn't honor my reservation. This is typical in Cuba. They always say they have a room for you and then they try to find one for you after you arrive. They always get $5 CUC per day commission from the person renting you the room. I don't like this arrangement too much so I just said goodbye and that I would find my own room. I just walked up the street 5 mins to the casa where I had stayed last trip and was lucky they had my room available.
The girl situation wasn't great this time. There are Police everywhere. They were stopping any chica they thought might be looking to hook up with a foreigner. There were very few available girls anywhere in the streets so the pickings were slim. I walked the Malecon from 23rd to Hotel Deauville and only saw 2 available girls. I think the Police have scared them all away. In the end I started talking to a nice mulatto girl on the Malecon and ended up taking her back to my casa. I had to meet her on a street corner where we grabbed a taxi to avoid the Police.
Back in the casa we showered together and had fantastic sex including oral. Not much need to discribe the sex with these girls because it's pretty well always fantastic. Cuban girls certainly know how to please a man in the bedroom.
Her asking price initially was $50 CUC but before we even left the Malecon I beat her down to $20 CUC. Very few tourists there now so the girls aren't getting a lot of business as far as I can tell.
I did a lot of walking all around the Malecon and the Vedado area and there really weren't many girls this trip. It was very difficult to find a nice looking and available girl.
I did meet a really nice one from Guantanamo and spend a few days with her but she was getting very attached to me so I let her go.
It was a reasonably good trip but hot as hell and very few girls.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
BeersTerry
07-12-06, 23:21
Places I found 'em (from my trip earlier this year)
The bar on the second floor of Hotel Habana Libre. Jinetera central.
Any girls sitting in Habana Cafe, Jazz Cafe....it is more discreet in these places and you have to have good eyes to scan.
Any girls window shopping!!!!
Also...get the fcuk out of Vedado ...go further west or south.
El Cubanito
07-13-06, 00:13
The entrace to the Tunnel by Malecon. That area around there is girl pick up central as they are looking for a Tourist car to pick them up so they could do the deal. I always, always score around there.
Also the Via Blanca toward the Beaches is puck up girl central also. Especially around the gas station by Alamar and Santa Maria Beach.
El Cubanito
AlLostInSpace13
07-19-06, 04:37
If anyone has info for such a casa, please pm me.
I will be making my first ever trip to Cuba from September 19 to October 3.
I've just had confirmation from Havana Rentals and will be staying at Bertha's.
I have the following question. I should arrive at Varadero airport at 14.20PM and will catch the first bus to Havana. If my flight is not delayed, I should be able to catch the 4PM bus, arriving in Havana around 7PM. Otherwise, the 6PM bus will get me to Havana around 9PM.
Apparently, all buses from Varadero to Havana make a stop at Varadero airport. Should I catch the bus at the airport? Or is it likely to be full already?
Please advise.
Loso
Should I catch the bus at the airport? Or is it likely to be full already?
Yes, never has for me. The bus has enough space to take on airport employees from Customs and Interior living in Matanzas.
They will drop you off near your casa if it is in the location of a hotel, or if it's on a main street. Just tell them the hotel your casa is near and they will let you off there.
Don't be surprised if your casa is rented out to someone else. Money in hand for them is more secure than promised cabbage.
Vedado Fun
08-05-06, 13:22
Your room may very well be rented out by the time you arrive. Have a couple of backups. My last three trips I had reservations but none of them were kept. They will always say they have a friend who has a room and then take you there. They get $5 cuc commission per day for any rooms they rent out belonging to friends. Don't let them push you around and be very careful what areas you stay in. Vedadao is one of the better and safest areas in my opinion. Miramar is good but too far from the city. I always try to stay near the Hotel National or near the Habana Libre. These are good areas and within walking distance of most things you might like to see.
Petrolero & Jeweller,
Thanks for your feedback.
Bertha's is in Vedado, just down the street from the Hotel Nacional. This casa was highly recommended on WSA.
Do you mean I should make reservations for multiple apartments (through different agencies)?
Loso
Loso,
Right, Bertha's is near the Hotel Nacional. Near the Maine monument. Where La Linea meets the Malecon.
I wouldn't worry too much about double reservations on the casa. I don't think HR will do that and certainly Bertha will not do that.
Take care to reconfirm with HR one week before you leave.
Fido.
Petrolero & Jeweller,
Thanks for your feedback.
Bertha's is in Vedado, just down the street from the Hotel Nacional. This casa was highly recommended on WSA.
Do you mean I should make reservations for multiple apartments (through different agencies)?
Loso
Do you mean I should make reservations for multiple apartments (through different agencies)? Loso
You need to protect yourself from wheeling your bags from casa to casa on the uneven sidewalks of Vedado. Look at Jeweller's story dated July 11 where he got hosed by a casa owner. It's a different world in Cuba and once I depart the plane, I adapt a hardball attitude in doing business. The easy, developed world is 4 hours behind me.
I'm so glad I have friends I can dump my stuff with so I don't have to deal with this BS. I pay a lady a small fee to register my name at her casa for my stay, but I'm never there. I get to roam around where I want and she gets some income. But it was a hard negotiation. I turned her down several trips before I got the price I wanted. Cubans think every outsider is willing to hand over his wallet. Don't be afraid to walk.
So yeah, book as many places to ensure a place to stay your first night. Get to know them all as they know each other.
It was hot as hell in June and July.
Jeweller was right, the chicks were scarce. The cafes along the Malecon were crowded on the weekends, and bottked beer was cheap at 1 CUC. I did see some super cute blonds in front of Sophia's in Vedado on a Tuesday night. Nice to look at, but a pain in the ass to deal with.
On July 19 the police were stopping all Cubans with tourists. I heard about it the following day, as I was out of the tourist zones. Berthold makes good points about being removed from tourist zones. But I like being in the middle of the action of Vieja. Drinking at a Di Tu Pollo in Cojimar, Marianao, or Lawton just doesn't have the same level of excitement for me. For the same reasons, I found it hard to leave Havana for Guantanamo for a week.
I think this is in prep of the political cumbre Sept 9-16. Not a time I would want to be in Havana, or the week before.
Fido Dido,
Thanks. From reading the posts, I had the impression that Havana Rentals was a dependable agency. But I may make a second reservation anyway.
Petrolero,
I think this is in prep of the political cumbre Sept 9-16. Not a time I would want to be in Havana, or the week before.
I’ll be in town just after the Cumbre. I hope the cops will have to work their ass off during the Cumbre and will be in a state of slumber when I’m in town. :)
Loso
Trip Report Havana, July-August 2006
I was in Havana for two weeks on vacation. Mongering was one of my priorities. You could say I was there for the “ABC’s”; Architecture, Babes, and Cigars. And, not necessarily in that order. In any case, here is my report, from a mongering perspective, of course.
I stayed in relatively nice casa particular in the Vedado area of Havana. This is a good neighborhood to stay as it is very safe at night and close to all the so called hot spots that you would want to visit for chicas; La Rampa, El Malecon, La Coppelia, etc. Where La Rampa meets El Malecon is usually the busiest area late at night as all the chicas gather there as the weekend approaches. I met my first chica on El Malecon in this general vicinity on my second night in the city. The first night I arrived was just way too late and I was very tired from almost 7 hours on the plane. This chica, Yolanda (not her real name), 19, ended up staying with me in my casa for almost a week. Nice GFE experience. She did not ask for any money, although I obviously did pay for everything while we were together. On the downside, she had some friends with her who kept hanging out with us during the day and night and this added to the cost. Hint, get rid of the friends, or don’t get involved with someone who insists on having them around.
We also traveled to Holguin for a few days near the end of the week. I must say that if you want easy pickings, this is the place to be. Late at night in the main town square, all the chicas come out and stay out till 5-6am in the morning. Absolutely gorgeous babes everywhere. And, all looking for someone to pick them up. I was with Yolanda at the time, so I did not do anything except watch. She knew some of them as well and I got to meet a few during this time. Late at night is very safe as all the young people are out in the square and on the streets. I did not feel threatened at all in my time there and I/we were out every night till almost morning. On another downside, Yolanda got her period during the end of the week, or so she said. This ended any fun I could have had. Week number one went by very quickly.
Week number two started with me back in Havana by myself as Yolanda decided to stay in Holguin. I gave her some lingerie (preparation is everything) and chewing gum earlier during our time together, and CUC $20 as I left. No big loss as being on the rag limited things greatly. This week was very different from the first week as Castro became ill. Thus, the police were everywhere. I had zero chica hits. Police in every corner of El Centro (central/downtown Havana), Havana Vieja (old Havana), Vedado (where I stayed). I went everywhere looking, but no one was taking any chances in talking to a tourist. I even had the police follow me for blocks at a time as I walked down the streets, camera out and shooting, to disguise the fact I was scoping for chicas at the same time. No luck what-so-ever.
Places like El Rapido, the Amercia building where Casa De La Musica is, was devoid of chicas. I did notice these two chicas who were cruising the Hotel Ingleterra earlier there again. But, they were way too young.
The chicas I passed and said “Hola” to just ignored me. El Malecon late at night was almost deserted in comparison to the first week. La Rampa had lots of chicas, but none of them would look at you anymore. La Coppelia (nice place for homemade ice cream by the way) was usually packed with people, but they were all too young. And, I mean less than 18 years old. Thus went the first part of my second week. I reconciled myself to shooing the architecture and enjoying the cigars instead.
During the second part of week two, I hooked up with this private taxi driver who the people of the casa where I was staying knew. Should have met him sooner. He got me in touch with another guy who knew chicas. Thus, I banged my second chica. Her name was Maria (not her real name), 21. A very lively chica who loved my DATY. I could have had her the next night, but I had arranged for another one instead. Total damage CUC $50 + CUC $10 tip + CUC $10 for the guy who arranged it all.
Unfortunately, the next night, as things are the way they are in Cuba, things fell through and I did not get to bang this other blond that I had arranged previously. It was now my last night in Cuba and once again, I went in search of a chica late at night along La Rampa and El Malecon. The police where still everywhere and my luck had not changed.
Total score this trip: 2.
A few general comments are in order: Havana is full of hustlers, especially the downtown areas near Hotel Ingleterra, the Capitolio, Barrio Chino, and the Partagas factory. Don’t talk to them, or even acknowledge their existence. To do so means you just cannot get rid of them short of, literally, running away. In most other areas you will wander, people will generally leave you alone.
When I do return, I would go to the quieter towns, like Holguin for example, for chicas. It is way less hectic and the pickings are easier. The general attitude, which I did not encounter myself, but only saw, is not present as much. It’s way more laid back and easy going. The next trip I would explore Cienfuegos and Trinidad instead based on my experiences in Holguin. Havana is a nice place to visit, but it’s way too high pressure. And, with more cars than you would believe based on other reports.
A bit about myself: I have been with SP’s in my own home town for decades. Have read these forums on and off for years and have gleaned useful information from them. Thus, I felt it was my turn to make a contribution. I am middle age, but do look almost 15-20 years younger! Am not tall, but not short either. Definitely not fat. Average is what you would most likely call it. But, of a noticeable ethnic origin. Therefore, I do not consider my experiences as being normative. They are just that, my experiences. Your mileage may, of course, vary.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for directions for posting a link to a specific report.
Vedado Fun
08-08-06, 13:14
Havana Rentals probably is a very good agency but it's out of their control is the owner of a Casa decides to rent it to some other customer. Most likely you will be ok but have a couple of backups just in case.
In my experience Cubans really don't think it's a big deal if you show up at their Casa with a reservation and they have already rented out your room. They know they can easily set you up at another Casa plus they will get $5 CUC each day you stay there.
Sometimes I just show up a friend's house and leave my stuff there while I go out and find a Casa. It's not difficult to find a Casa but if you've never been to Havana before you won't really know what area you like best plus you will probably be an easy taget for the Cubans. You really have to play hardball just like Petrolero says. Cubans don't mind cheating you and even when you are with a Cuban friend they rarely seem to mind if another Cuban is cheating you. Always check your change when you buy anything and make sure you look at what bill you give them when paying. Lots of times they will try to give you change for$5 when you give them $10..etc.
Not a major report but just some info on current price which to me seemed quite competitive.
Whilst walking along the Malecon (seafront in Havana), I saw a gorgeous girl lying on the wall that separates the sea from the pavement. It was close to sunset and there were lots of people in different places so I thought this might be a nice place to stop and get an 'eyeful'. She was quite sexy, I'd say a 6/7, slim, all the curves in the right places. I decided to stop for a cigarette, took a seat on the wall conveniently facing her. A few minutes later she got up, there werent that many folks near us and I intentionally didn't make eye contact straight away but very shortly after caught her checking ME out! She gave me a smile, I returned one. I already knew it couldn't go further as I had to be somewhere in an hour - damn! Anyway, her boyfriend turns up and hands her a drink, I'm thinking thank god I didn't go up to her - could have been embarassing.
Anyway, after a few minutes he walks over. I'm thinking he was gonna say I saw you checking out my girl. Actually I think he did say that (he spoke spanish, none of which I understood).
He asked for a cigarette and I handed him one, he was very friendly. We got chatting but didn't understand each other. Ever had a conversation where you don't understand what the other guy is saying but try to reply by talking slowly? Well it was one of those conversations. I did eventually understand his sign language, he said something along the lines of take my girl (chica - pointed at her), fuck her (banged his fists one on top of the other), with accomodation (he said casa) for $16 Pesos (flashed all his fingers and then 6 of them and said Pesos! ). $16 Pesos is about £10 in British money and US $18 - not a bad deal I thought. From what I read I was expecting much higher prices.
I politely refused as I had to to but was just wondering what sort of prices were out there, may be useful for other Forum readers.
Walden,
Nice report, thanks a lot. Just watch out at the corner Malecon/La Rampa. Thats a gay spot (like in front of the Cine Yara). Lots of transvestites there.
Titaniste:
16 $ as a starting offer for a girl was very good! Normaly they start asking for 50$ or more but I'd say the going rate is about 30$ (for an allnighter). You can find'em cheaper or you can pay much more. Mostly it depends where you pick up the girls (Streetgirls are cheaper than Discochics).
But anyways, never pay more than 30$.
[QUOTE=El Grande]Walden,
Nice report, thanks a lot. Just watch out at the corner Malecon/La Rampa. Thats a gay spot (like in front of the Cine Yara). Lots of transvestites there.
El Grande,
Thanks for the info. I'll keep my eye out then. Actually met and hung out a bit with a tv who knew some of the people I was with while in Holguin. This was during the all night hanging out sessions in the main city plaza till the early morning hours. Quite interesting/fun, and harmless.
Walden.
BeersTerry
08-10-06, 13:23
The guys hanging with girls in touristy areas are usually their 'cousin'. They are there to ensure that the girl does not get arrested while trolling for tourists. Malecon is usually heavily policed. I have even heard that some of the girls were paying off the policia so that they left the working girls alone while arresting any non payer.
La Habana is very vivid, against some reports telling us that activity is down, I can ensure you that la habana - vieja is full of nice girls just waiting to be picked up by any CUC (peso cubano convertible) holder.
Do not wait till a girl is asking you -she is for shure a pro - just talk to all of them where ever you see them, in the street, in shops and whereever they are - and they are around anyhow!
A bit of spanish and a casa particulare is a must, just invite them for a drink there, the rest is no problem.
Be aware that they ask you upfront for some ayuda (help) or atleast afterwards but they will ask for shure!
Round 20 cuc is standard round it up with some shampoo ect. - you will gain a big smile and great next timer! Pls don't overprice - its a lot of money for her. 20 cuc is 500 local pesos which most of them don't earn a month!
Enjoy cuban ladys, treat them well because you get rewarded for that!
Jack Monger
08-17-06, 21:06
I have heard from this forum and another about how bad things are. I have been to Havana twice this year and have had my share of fun. I am heading back later this year and have a list of chicas I have met online. I think this is the way of the future. I have a list that even if I was to do 2 chicas a day I would not finish it in the 2 weeks I am there. I still have several weeks to add to it. There are still many good experiences to be had. You just may need to change your tactics. The problem is that some people are to set in their ways to try a new approach.
ancient history, but a good story nonetheless, from a trip in july, 2005
stayed at an apartment in vedado, through havana rentals. nice place but the landlady was a *****. sign of the times, that she gave me the speech about recording all of the identity info for any girl i brought back to the place.
first night i met a beauty around the corner from the hotel ingletera. my landlady grilled her, when i brought her home, and called her every name in the book. a black girl, there was obviously some racism involved. her treatment by the landlady had a serious effect on performance.
next night to el gato , spotted a serious hottie. her original offer was ridiculous, but we came to an agreement that was more reasonable. still the performance was pretty poor, but she was beautiful on the eyes.
poor so far. now the fun began.
strolled the rapidos between el malecon and san lazaro. first time i had a nasty girl who wouldn’t say “no“, keeping me away from a very cute mother who was there with her baby and a perfect opportunity for the “can i help you with your child?”. never fails. but i was blocked.
moved down the street to another rapido for a beer. see a beautiful afro on the street and motion her up for a drink. i hadn’t seen her friend, who also joined us, who was a hot little blond spinner, with the most minimal skirt i have ever seen (if there was 8” of material covering her butt, there was no more). they joined me and we had a couple of drinks. i invite my original beauty back to my apartment (my landlady is now out of town so i can ignore her bs). we grab a taxi and the blond spinner comes in, too. huh? back at the apartment, they both get out of the taxi and come in. the lovely afro girl comes into my bedroom, and provides great service, while the blond spinner waits in the kitchen. after me and the afro girl finish our session and a shower, we head back into the kitchen. the blond spinner is sitting there.
i can’t resist. i say, “and you?” her look is initially puzzled, then astonished, then she looks at her friend… we all break down laughing! she stands up and takes my hand, and it’s back to the bedroom, for some exhausting sex.
next evening, i was at the big rapido where el malecon and san lazaro almost meet. saw this one young beauty that i just had to have. this gorgeous teen was with a mid-20’s lady, not bad looking but not what i wanted. the older girl was the only one who was willing to talk, and i couldn’t get her out of the deal.
made the deal for the two of them, but they weren’t coming back to my apartment. the old deal of leaving a minute after them and following them (at distance) to an apartment.
bizarre situation (i've been there, before), in a bedroom where the ceilings weren’t high enough for me to sit up, without hitting my head. i concentrated on the teen beauty, who had the tastiest pussy i’ve ever tongued, while the older lady sucked with great talent. the deal was for two go-rounds, and damn i was a satisfied boy!
i described this to an electrical engineer friend, later. i described it as two threesomes, one in series and one in parallel. we laughed. he said that a in series had a greater impedence. we both almost fell off out chairs, laughing.
well that’s a past report, but a fun one.
I have heard from this forum and another about how bad things are. I have been to Havana twice this year and have had my share of fun. I am heading back later this year and have a list of chicas I have met online. I think this is the way of the future. I have a list that even if I was to do 2 chicas a day I would not finish it in the 2 weeks I am there. I still have several weeks to add to it. There are still many good experiences to be had. You just may need to change your tactics. The problem is that some people are to set in their ways to try a new approach.How did you meet them online? E-mail is still relatively uncommon there. I do have a friend that has an illegal connection in his house and Hotmail is about as advanced as I've seen. The other posters are correct in that honouring reservations is hit and miss. The last two times I went down I got stiffed on my reservations, so be prepared with a couple of phone numbers (at least the contact number of your service) and/or web addresses (some hotels have 24 expensive Internet access). It seems to have gotten worst since my trip at the end of February. A printed reservation confirmation is enough to get Customs off your back. The last time my flight landed at 5:00 AM and I didn't have too many options at that hour.
If you read my February report, I swore not to go back, but I'm out of cigars again and am thinking about it. Times have changed and some posters are right about changing tactics and getting with the times. There was NO nightlife except the Casa de la Música in Centro and I ran out of ideas even though I am fluent in Spanish. If the landlady is too pushy, just bail and find another casa. On my last trip my reservation fell through and I ended up in a terrible location, next to U.S. Interests. Never stay anywhere near there because there is a police station next to it and an unbelievable amount of police 24/7 in the area. They probably know what you're up to, like with that many single male tourists in Havana, it hard not to be associated with the hobby, I usually play stupid and drunk tourist for them (speak no spanish and always ask for directions).
On the last couple of days, I did find a fair bit of action was available if you wandered the streets of Centro, away from the Malacón. Chicas with their "cousins" were trying to get in my cab when I went to meet a chica I knew from Santa Clara who was living there with her aunt and in the doorways near their apartment. There are always plenty of chicas wandering around Parque Central and the patio of the Inglaterra, but they were cautious then. When in doubt, just follow the Germans, they always seem to know where Ground Zero is. There has to be some sort of hookup with these guys. Just off the plane from Germany and not a word of Spanish, but they seem to arrive at the clubs with lots of talent that isn't local to the club. I still speak a little bit of it from my three years of studying it, but never got around to asking them about it.
I have recently been informed that the aunt of my lady from Santiago is in the hospital afflicted with the mosquito borne illness Dengue. There has been several outbreaks in the past but not to the level of the present one. This time the government has not denied the illness. They have taken to fumigating Habana with bi-planes.
BeersTerry
09-23-06, 15:26
I would love to hear more Cubiche. I am tentatively scheduled to be there in early December for a couple of weeks. The boards are full of dengue reports, but mainly in el Oriente. Not much on the dengue in Havana, other than to say the hospitals are full of patients. I don't know what is worse, the dengue or the shit that they fumigate with.
While you might expect lots of cops around Habana Vieja, Centro and maybe La Rampa, what is the situation like in other areas ? Lots of my contacts have lost or are afraid to email on government email accounts.
Beersterry,
Hopefully, my recent trip experience does not represent what is to come. Two things were happening at the same time. The illness of Fidel and the Cumbre. Police were everywhere and stopping everyone, especially cars bearing tourist plates containing chicas. Never in my 10 year experience was I stopped so many times not only on the highway but in Habana no matter what area.
I am also going back in December but at the tail end. If things are the same, I will subsequently be going somewhere else.
HuevosAzul
09-24-06, 20:04
Beersterry,
Hopefully, my recent trip experience does not represent what is to come. Two things were happening at the same time. The illness of Fidel and the Cumbre. Police were everywhere and stopping everyone, especially cars bearing tourist plates containing chicas. Never in my 10 year experience was I stopped so many times not only on the highway but in Habana no matter what area.
I am also going back in December but at the tail end. If things are the same, I will subsequently be going somewhere else.Havana's been hit with Dengue also. I know several people there who've been stricken with the illness.
Havana's been hit with Dengue also. I know several people there who've been stricken with the illness.Havana is hit with dengue since July.
Here's a note from cubanet.org from July 20:
"(José Antonio Fornaris, Cuba-Verdad / (www.cubanet.org) - More than 600 new cases of dengue fever have been recorded in the Havana municipalities of El Cerro, Centro Habana, and Arroyo Naranjo, said employees of the Public Health department who wished to remain anonymous.
Authorities have been meeting with physicians and nurses to appraise them of the situation. They have also ordered a clean up campaign in Old Havana, presumably to eliminate breeding areas for the Aedes aegypti mosquito, the vector for the disease.
The last outbreak of dengue in the Cuban capital was January 2002. At that time, a clean up campaign picked up more than a million square meters of debris and trash that had accumulated in city streets"
I've attached a picture of a truck spraying for bugs. I heard people talk about the planes too, but never saw them. And I never knew why they were spraying that stuff...until now. :)
BTW, the stats for my trip:
Nights: 14
LT: 0
ST: 22
Girls: 20
Titaniste: 10 fingers, followed by 6 fingers means 60 pesos!
Loso
I am here at the Hotel Plaza now. I leave tomorrow. I have never seen it this slow. The Malecon is dead. Lots of people but no one to talk to etc. The new trend seems to be to go through a taxi driver. They seem to keep a list of chicas that will come back to your casa.
I have a Casa in Vedado by the University, the spraying for bugs is crazy all over the city. I´ve seen the truck and there are lots of dudes walking around spraying with blowers as well.
Anyways, six nights. Six chicas. Mucho bueno!! Time to go home though.
Salsero Loco
10-14-06, 03:11
Behark,
You say things are slow, but six girls in six days sounds pretty good to me. Are the taxi drivers delivering good quality girls? Did you visit casa de la musica or any similar places? (I went to Cuba 3 times about 3 years ago and never had problems).
I am going to Cuba in 10 days and have been spending some time on amigos.com and cybercupido.com trying to line up girls in case things are slow. One advantage I have is speaking and writing fairly fluent spanish, which makes the cyber correspondence a lot easier, obviously.
SL
Behark,
You say things are slow, but six girls in six days sounds pretty good to me. Are the taxi drivers delivering good quality girls? Did you visit casa de la musica or any similar places? (I went to Cuba 3 times about 3 years ago and never had problems).
I am going to Cuba in 10 days and have been spending some time on amigos.com and cybercupido.com trying to line up girls in case things are slow. One advantage I have is speaking and writing fairly fluent spanish, which makes the cyber correspondence a lot easier, obviously.
SLSorry for my English. 3 were casual meetings. The other 3 were introduced to me via random taxi drivers (Not the ones driving the new cars but the beat up Ladas). I visited Casa de la Musica a couple times. It was not very active.
Salsero Loco
10-20-06, 01:56
I am going to be in Havana in a few days and having read on the forum about the current situation in Cuba have prepared myself by contacting girls through amigos.com and cybercupido.com. About the half the girls I contacted wrote back and were enthusiastic about getting together. One girl even wanted to pick me up at the airport, but I managed to dodge that potential problem. I would rather pick up girls who I can see in the flesh, but it can't hurt to have a backup. Most of the girls, if not all, are university students, which might explain their relative sophistication with the internet. One girl told me that she had a boyfriend of two years and that it would be difficult to meet me. I wanted to ask her why she was on cybercupido every other day then, but that seemed a little rude.
As for a casa particular, I contacted Pototo, the cuba-based rep for cuba-junky.com and asked him to find me an independent apartment to avoid girls who are afraid of being registered.
Will let you all know how this all pans out in a week or two...
SL
BeersTerry
10-20-06, 13:49
The girls on the internet access it from work. Yes they (most) are university educated. For most girls, a boyfriend does'nt mean much.
Belize Insider
10-21-06, 21:08
2 other great spots to meat girls are hi5 and myspace, alll communication is free. Couple months ago there were maybe 20 girls 5 with pics on hi5 now there are over 1500. I've made excellent connections with girls in Honduras as well from those sites.
Jack Monger
10-25-06, 17:58
Well guys I spent 16 days down there and was entertained by 12 different ladies. Some were amigos.com chicas and some were hitchhikers. I never lacked any day becasue I had some girls 2 or 3 times. I could have had 2 new girls every day if I wanted. It was an amazing time. The girls from the internet dating sites are mostly UCI students. They are looking to get out and have some fun. I went down with a friend that is fluent in Spanish and that helped a great deal. I was able to pickup hotties with my very limited Spanish though.
Jack,
Glad you had a great time. I am in the process of planning my year end trip. My last trip in late August was disappointing to say the less. In Habana, police presence was very heavy. It was attributed to the illness of el Jefe and the upcoming cumbre. I always rent a car and at that time, was stopped numerous times. Did you stay in Habana and if you did how was the police presence.
Looking forward to pics in the foto section.
Cubiche
Scottish Male
10-28-06, 05:31
Guys keep up the good work. i am a Scottish guy coming to Havana area in the next 3-4 weeks from Mexico. Can i change pesos easy enough?
Any good advice on areas and what to bring etc. i will be looking through the boards making lists.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Scottish Male]Can i change pesos easy enough?[QUOTE]bring a pile of euros and while you are waiting to claim your luggage, there is a place you can change your money into CUC - the tourist pesos.
When they give you the cash, make sure you gets lots of $20s - $50s can be hard to change sometimes.
Remember to have $25CUC left over to pay for your exit visa at the airport - but again, you can change from euros at the next counter at the airport (you do this just after you get your boarding pass).
Member #4643
10-28-06, 22:32
Jack: thanks for the report. I have found that the internet "marriage agencies" are a great way to meet girls, although ultimately I lose half of the girls I was chasing when I admit to them that my major interest is sex. I have decided this is not a good tactic, although it does screen out the girls who want a marriage committment before they commit themselves to more interesting activities.
In any case, I have been corresponding with a few Cubanas, and I would love to go back to Cuba and enjoy them, but I have a worry. When I was last in Havana, in 2004, I met a regualr girl who, after being wined and dined, became a girlfriend. She refused to walk in the street with me, be seen anywhere in public with me. When we went to a restaurant together, she would only go if the restaurant was outside of Old Havana and was discrete. Her fear, of course, was being arrested as a prostitute.
Do the non-pros still cringe at the thought of being seen by the side of an older gringo?
. . . I have found that the internet "marriage agencies" are a great way to meet girls, although ultimately I lose half of the girls I was chasing when I admit to them that my major interest is sex . . .I know of the use of dating sites for meeting Cuban women. But I have never heard of marriage agencies for this purpose.
By the way: I don't like the idea of approaching women for sex through a marriage agency. Even though I think the main purpose of these women is to get a green card.
. . . in Havana, in 2004, I met a regualr girl who, after being wined and dined, became a girlfriend. She refused to walk in the street with me, be seen anywhere in public with me. . .Her fear, of course, was being arrested as a prostitute.
Do the non-pros still cringe at the thought of being seen by the side of an older gringo?Maybe she is a pro or a semi-pro after all. Although, I can imagine her fear is correct. The risks do become worse depending on the age difference and the color difference of the couple.
Situation right now (mid 2006) is worse then in 2004.
Salsero Loco
11-05-06, 01:12
Just back from about a week in Havana. Things have definitely changed since I was there in 2003. Mostly notably, nightlife in the Old Havana is quiet with the Calle Obisbo dead after midnight or 1am and heavy police presence. Nonetheless, you will have no problems finding girls most times of day. Basically, if you look at them and they give you a good look back, they are ready to play. This applies in Old Havana as well as the rest of the city. They usually will not approach you, especially in the old city, and you will have to walk up to them and have a quick chat and arrange things.
I took a couple of different girls home to my casa particular this way, though the old woman owner of my casa insisted on taking down all the information from every girl I met and made her and me feel rather uncomfortable, which I really hated. I think just about any casa particular owner will insist on this registration, though you would do well to find someone less moralistic to stay with.
I met the two hottest girls of the trip on the Paseo which runs down from the Parque Central to the Malecon. They agreed to 20 CUC each very quickly, probably would have gone cheaper, but it turned out (once I was back at my place) they were both only 17 and I had to send them packing. Quite the feat of willpower for me, but the prospect of Cuban prison is not pleasant. I am still tormented by the fun I could have had with them --- two at once! – but the stress involved would not have been worth it.
I also had arranged to meet some girls on amigos.com and cyber cupido, a few of them in Havana. I only ended up meeting with one of them, a 19 year old who was every bit as hot as her photo. We met my first or second day in Havana, don’t remember exactly, and she didn’t want to have sex the first night but we did make out a lot and she ended up sleeping at my place. In the morning she woke up with swollen glands and turns out she had caught some infection that had been going through her university dorm and ended up being quarantined in a hospital for the rest of my trip --- while I nervously checked my own glands multiple times a day! Initially part of me thought this was some kind of con, but I ended up talking to a nurse at the hospital later and realized that she was legit. Too bad, she was a nice and beautiful girl and would have been a fantastic GFE.
I did not have time to travel around the rest of the island as I had planned because of the incompetence of Air Jamaica. My flight from Kingston to Havana turned back after problems with their radios and I ended up cooling my heels in Jamaica for three fucking days.
As for the reports of taxi drivers having a supply of girls, I am not sure. I didn’t ask any of my many drivers if they knew girls, but none of them offered either, which I think they would have.
All in all, I think that Havana is still a good place to monger, despite what turned out to be a mediocre trip for me. I think that perhaps I have been spoiled by Colombia, which I have visited many times since my first trips to Cuba, and which has, in my opinion, cheaper prices, many more options (massage parlours, escort services, strip clubs, etc.) and sweeter, better looking girls than Cuba.
My trip is upcoming. When I was there in August the Cumbre was about to start. I always rent a car and for the first time, I was stopped numerous times. I was wondering if it has alleviated.
Salsero Loco
11-05-06, 22:37
My trip is upcoming. When I was there in August the Cumbre was about to start. I always rent a car and for the first time, I was stopped numerous times. I was wondering if it has alleviated.
If you mean you were stopped by the police, no never happened to me once on the trip, but I wasn't driving myself. They did spend a lot of time on me going through immigration, but then my passport is fat and full of stamps from all over the world, so maybe I look suspicious.
Doc Mullet
11-06-06, 20:45
Hi,
Please can anyone advise on the best place to stay in Havana as I'm having toruble deciding on the 3 areas in the title.
Thanks in advance
Doc
Just back from about a week in Havana. Things have definitely changed since I was there in 2003. Mostly notably, nightlife in the Old Havana is quiet with the Calle Obisbo dead after midnight or 1am and heavy police presence. Nonetheless, you will have no problems finding girls most times of day. Basically, if you look at them and they give you a good look back, they are ready to play. This applies in Old Havana as well as the rest of the city. They usually will not approach you, especially in the old city, and you will have to walk up to them and have a quick chat and arrange things.
I took a couple of different girls home to my casa particular this way, though the old woman owner of my casa insisted on taking down all the information from every girl I met and made her and me feel rather uncomfortable, which I really hated. I think just about any casa particular owner will insist on this registration, though you would do well to find someone less moralistic to stay with.
I met the two hottest girls of the trip on the Paseo which runs down from the Parque Central to the Malecon. They agreed to 20 CUC each very quickly, probably would have gone cheaper, but it turned out (once I was back at my place) they were both only 17 and I had to send them packing. Quite the feat of willpower for me, but the prospect of Cuban prison is not pleasant. I am still tormented by the fun I could have had with them --- two at once! – but the stress involved would not have been worth it.
I also had arranged to meet some girls on amigos.com and cyber cupido, a few of them in Havana. I only ended up meeting with one of them, a 19 year old who was every bit as hot as her photo. We met my first or second day in Havana, don’t remember exactly, and she didn’t want to have sex the first night but we did make out a lot and she ended up sleeping at my place. In the morning she woke up with swollen glands and turns out she had caught some infection that had been going through her university dorm and ended up being quarantined in a hospital for the rest of my trip --- while I nervously checked my own glands multiple times a day! Initially part of me thought this was some kind of con, but I ended up talking to a nurse at the hospital later and realized that she was legit. Too bad, she was a nice and beautiful girl and would have been a fantastic GFE.
I did not have time to travel around the rest of the island as I had planned because of the incompetence of Air Jamaica. My flight from Kingston to Havana turned back after problems with their radios and I ended up cooling my heels in Jamaica for three fucking days.
As for the reports of taxi drivers having a supply of girls, I am not sure. I didn’t ask any of my many drivers if they knew girls, but none of them offered either, which I think they would have.
All in all, I think that Havana is still a good place to monger, despite what turned out to be a mediocre trip for me. I think that perhaps I have been spoiled by Colombia, which I have visited many times since my first trips to Cuba, and which has, in my opinion, cheaper prices, many more options (massage parlours, escort services, strip clubs, etc.) and sweeter, better looking girls than Cuba.I was also in Havana in 2003 (September) and when we arrived there was a strong police presence. Literally, a policeman on every corner. It disappeared after a few days then the chicas came back out. We did not have to go looking for any action, action came looking for you. We would be drinking mojitos on a pavement bar at 10.00pm and be approached by some really lovely women. I have to go back to Havana. Apart from the women it really is a land stuck in time (thanks to Uncle Sam).
Hi,
Please can anyone advise on the best place to stay in Havana as I'm having toruble deciding on the 3 areas in the title.
Thanks in advance
DocMy choice would be vedado. Better location and is generally a cleaner area. More restaurants, better chicas (for my taste), etc. Old Havana is a nice walk away, or a few dollar cab ride. Don't forget to eat in Barrio Chino!
Hello mates
I will be going to Playas del Este for the first time end of November.
Can some of you guys recommend:
1. Casa Particular (Shared/Not shared). Phone/Address
2. Local Discos and clubs (to meet chicas).
3. Is it a good season beachwise?
Muchas gracias amigos.
LatinBull
BeersTerry
11-08-06, 03:40
End of November will be winter time and the beaches should be all but deserted. You may find some Cubans walking around in winter coats and a couple of tourists in shorts and t-shirts.
Scottish Male
11-08-06, 04:19
Was recommended a guy called Jorge Guide who is quoting 40 cuc per day for a good casa in Kholy area of Havana. He also is quoting £420 for 9 days car hire (Hyundai accent) all inclusive of insurance and full tank of gas.
Is this OK prices
If not any recommendations. I leave Friday 18th November for 9 days.
Was recommended a guy called Jorge Guide who is quoting 40 cuc per day for a good casa in Kholy area of Havana. He also is quoting £420 for 9 days car hire (Hyundai accent) all inclusive of insurance and full tank of gas.
Is this OK prices
If not any recommendations. I leave Friday 18th November for 9 days.40 cuc for a casa is way to much! You can easy get an independent casa for 20-30 cuc! Just ask around when your there! If you book ahead its always more expensive.
BeersTerry
11-08-06, 14:20
For $40, it had better be a rockin' casa. The most expensive casa (due to the tax they pay) are the condos opposite to the Hotel Nacional. They are nice condos as there are only 3 condos per floor.
The guy that is quoting you car prices might be ripping you off. Check out this site for price comparisons. www.nashtravel.com
When you rent a car, it comes with a full tank, you are charged for this gas, check your bill. When the car comes back, make sure that it is empty.
I've read lots of complaints about their service, but the information posted is good.
Hi guys,
I'm headed off to Cuba in a couple of weeks with the wife. I am hoping to slip off now and then to check out the local action. Seems like this should be possible, as she is not a night person, early to bed :)
Will be in Havana, Santiago and Valadero, any advice? what is the story with condom availability are they readily available over there.
Any advice appreciated.
Cheers Loggan
Hardly any condoms available, you better bring some with you.
Scottish Male
11-10-06, 02:59
Do the girls do BBJ or even better BBJCIM or must it be covered all the time.
Going I week today for 9 days and cant wait.
Thanks
BeersTerry
11-10-06, 03:29
...and some ether for the wife.
Do the girls do BBJ or even better BBJCIM or must it be covered all the time.
Going I week today for 9 days and cant wait.
ThanksDepends on the girl. But you better wrap it up, Cuba is a stronghold of sexually transmitted diseases.
I will be in Guanabo last week of november to enjoy the beach and the local talent.
PM me if you want to hook up for a beer.
PD: Thanks to Cubiche for valuable tips around Guanabo.
LatinBull
Depends on the girl. But you better wrap it up, Cuba is a stronghold of sexually transmitted diseases.I thought it was the opposite, sexually transitted diease rates are low largely because it is a police state and they harass the jineteras and test them.
Haiti is probably the worst country in this hemisphere, but play safe wherever you go.
Scottish Male
11-11-06, 19:46
I was mainly asking do the girls just normally do it without for oral or is it a stricy no-no. I believed the girls do more of a Girlfriend type sex and so oral without sounds more natural.
I am aware of the risks but just wanted to no the culture.
Thanks
My experience is that if you get a girl from a bar or club, the default will be covered.
Girls you pick up on the street or park, the default is uncovered.
Cheers,
MC
i thought it was the opposite, sexually transitted diease rates are low largely because it is a police state and they harass the jineteras and test them.
haiti is probably the worst country in this hemisphere, but play safe wherever you go.
first: they only can test the jins they catch. before a chica is known as a jin they have to catch her. the first one-two times they interrogate her and send her home. if she gets caught again then she'll be tested and sent to prison. and beside that if a chica can bribe the cops she wont even be taken to the police station.
and second: they normally test them only for hiv and hepatitis. they arent tested on "minor" diseases like gonorrhea, chlamydia etc. these std's normally dont bother women - most don't even know they are infected - but when a guy gets it it feels like he was peeing shards.
so, the std-rates actually may be lower than in other countries (according to the bearded ones propaganda), but ...
BeersTerry
11-13-06, 17:16
Hate to prolong this topic, but I thought another major problem was lice...given the poverty.
Hate to prolong this topic, but I thought another major problem was lice...given the poverty.
Never came across that. But for me a shower before (together with the girl) is a must. (Doesn't help much against lices, but anyways.)
Scottish Male
11-13-06, 20:04
Looking for a Casa for this Friday for a few days for some fun.
Any recomendations.
http://www.cuba-maps.com/destinations/havana/east_havana_beaches.asp
Including, Playas del Este.....
Use the scroll bars on the map to move N,S,E,W, use the mignifying tool to zoom the map in or out, and when happy with selection, just click, print the map. Put your booklet together.
LatinBull
first: they only can test the jins they catch. before a chica is known as a jin they have to catch her. the first one-two times they interrogate her and send her home. if she gets caught again then she'll be tested and sent to prison. and beside that if a chica can bribe the cops she wont even be taken to the police station.
and second: they normally test them only for hiv and hepatitis. they arent tested on "minor" diseases like gonorrhea, chlamydia etc. these std's normally dont bother women - most don't even know they are infected - but when a guy gets it it feels like he was peeing shards.
so, the std-rates actually may be lower than in other countries (according to the bearded ones propaganda), but ...and where does this detailed info come from? have you spoken with many jineteras who have endured the whole process?
And where does this detailed info come from? Have you spoken with many jineteras who have endured the whole process?
I talk with the girls I meet....
They all know what they're dealing with when they go with a Yuma. It depends on the girl (and on you) if she tells you about "the other side of Cuba".
So, if you speak spanish and make some conservation just ask the people you meet. A lot are bullshitting you, but if you come across the same story over and over again, it is probably true.
Besides, the sister of a girl I stayed with was in a "correction center" for a year. The described process is the one she went through.
Will be in Havana one week from now and I plan to stay at least one week from Dec 7 to Dec 13. This is going to be my 4th trip in 6 years and I can't wait.
If any of you guys are going to be on ground around that time do let us meet up, Cuba is so much more fun when you have fellow mongers on ground.
Hi everybody.
Thanks for all the valuable information.
I booked a flight from Cancun to Havana through Mexicana Airline website.
But I was informed that they cannot process the flight purchase since my credit card is issued in the U.S.
I still wanna go to Cuba through Mexico due to the shortest route.
I'm sure some of you traveled using Mexicana.
How did you guys pay for it?
Thanks.
Will be in Havana one week from now and I plan to stay at least one week from Dec 7 to Dec 13. This is going to be my 4th trip in 6 years and I can't wait.
If any of you guys are going to be on ground around that time do let us meet up, Cuba is so much more fun when you have fellow mongers on ground.
When trying to send you a PM I get the following error-message:
Lagzy has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.
How to contact you in Havana? PM me. FD.
Fido Dido,
You won't be able to PM me until tomorrow because I just subscribed to WSG. Likewise I am unable to PM you until the subscription thing comes through (should not take more than 24h, per Jackson). I have been a non-paying member for several years but never really felt the need to subscribe until recently.
With regards to contacting me in Havana, I'm most likely going to end up staying at a hotel the first night, probably the Inglaterra or any similarly priced place. My Cubana flight from Cancun arrives Havana at 4.45pm on December 7, so I should have enough time to check in and start looking for a casa particulare with an independent private entrance. Once that is sorted out the fun should immediately begin. I don't have as much time as I usually do when I go to Cuba so every minute has to be productive.
Of course if there is someone already in Havana who can give me the details of a reliable casa with independent entrance that will save me the trouble of staying at a hotel the first night. I thought about booking the casa online, but from experience you never know if it's really available until you are physically inside the place.
I should be able to PM you tomorrow by which time I will have more info about meeting up in Havana.
Cheers,
Lagzy
When trying to send you a PM I get the following error-message:
Lagzy has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.
How to contact you in Havana? PM me. FD.
Chute,
You may want to consider getting a non-US credit card. Or you can try using another airline to fly to Havana. Or you can use a travel agent and pay with your US credit card.
Lagzy
Hi everybody.
Thanks for all the valuable information.
I booked a flight from Cancun to Havana through Mexicana Airline website.
But I was informed that they cannot process the flight purchase since my credit card is issued in the U.S.
I still wanna go to Cuba through Mexico due to the shortest route.
I'm sure some of you traveled using Mexicana.
How did you guys pay for it?
Thanks.
Chute,
You can pay for your Mexicana ( Click ) airlines at the Cancun airport with an American c/c.. Before you get in line for Mexicana, turn-around and the Mexicana ticket booth will be there. You may want to call Mexicana to make sure they hold the reservation for you.
gmon
Looking for a decent casa in Vedado with independent entrance. Any ideas?
Has anyone stayed at Casa Galeano? How is the place with regards to mongering?
Lagzy
Holden Caulfield
12-11-06, 09:34
Linea #10. Top floor, ring the bell.
Awesome place, cheap and even a bar full of lovlies and the bottom of the building.
Half block or less to Malecon, Gato Tuerto, Nacional. I spent a couple of weeks there and literally was not bothered once by the owner.
Thanks man,
Unfortunately I am getting this while rounding up my 5 day trip to Cuba. But thanks anyways. Full details of trip to follow in 48 to 72 hours.
Linea #10. Top floor, ring the bell.
Awesome place, cheap and even a bar full of lovlies and the bottom of the building.
Half block or less to Malecon, Gato Tuerto, Nacional. I spent a couple of weeks there and literally was not bothered once by the owner.
Salsero Loco
12-12-06, 02:15
this is my long-overdue report on my trip to havana at the end of october.
this trip was a bit of a fiasco. i flew over havana from the east coast of the us late on an monday morning and landed in jamaica, where i was going to transfer to my havana flight. after countless delays, i was finally airborne around 9pm enroute to havana from kingston. unfortunately, about 15 minutes into the flight we had to turn back because (i found out later), both radios on the air jamaica flight were broken. sparing you all the boring details, i didn’t actually make it to havana until late thursday. i did manage to have some fun in jamaica, though i wouldn’t recommend anyone to spend much time in kingston, which is a real shithole.
having already lost a good third of my trip to cuba due to aj’s incompetence, i decided to stay in havana rather than travel around the eastern part of the island as initially planned. the day after i arrived i called one of the girls i met on cybercupido, who proved to be every bit as hot as her picture on the site. we spent a few hours in my apartment, dancing, drinking beers, and finally making out. she ended up spending the night in my apartment, but did not want to have sex that first night, which was a bit frustrating to say the least, but also not a bad sign as it meant that a real gfe was awaiting me on the second or third date. but bad luck struck again when my girl awoke in the morning complaining of swelling and pain in her throat. turns out that something called “papera,” a virus i presume, had been working its way through her university dorms and that she was sure she now had it. apparently the virus was pretty serious and required a two week quarantine. quarantine! since i had had my tongue well into her throat just a few hours before, i was pretty worried.
a day or two later i tried calling her at the hospital number she had given me, and the nurse informed me that she was in quarantine and couldn’t come to the phone. she also told me that i was probably not in danger, as the virus only became infectious later on, but i was still fairly paranoid the rest of the trip, though i never did get sick.
after that, i decided to keep away from cybercupido girls, only because i was running out of time to cultivate gfe’s and wanted to get down to business right away. so i spent some time cruising the streets of old havana, which were much much quieter than they had been three or four years before. nonetheless, i found a pair of young girls on the paseo de peralta who insisted on working together. one of them looked really hot, the other kindof plain, but i said ok, the plain one can wait outside. but on the way back to my place in the taxi, the plain one stopped the taxi to get out for a drink and when i saw her in better light, i realized that she had an amazing tight body that had been concealed before. big score!
however, once we got back to the apartment, i discovered that both were only 17 years old! having read a report on the forum warning about **** girls, i kicked then out with a small tip, something which took every bit of will power i had. nothing like the fear of cuban prison to put a damper on your evening! one of the girls left me her phone number which i later ripped up and threw out the window to avoid the temptation of calling her in a weak moment.
my nervousness was compounded by my busybody old lady landlord. i had found an independent apartment through pototo, the contact person in havana for cubajunky.com. and though the apartment was indeed private and nice on a quiet street in centro havana, the owner (who lived two apartments down the hall) let herself in whenever she felt like it (which was frequently), and was noticeable displeased whenever i had a cuban in the apartment and took what felt like hours taking down the information from their id.
after this, i did manage to find a few decent girls walking the streets in havana and had a good time with them, though none of them was nearly as hot as the young hotties i had to throw out. towards the end of the trip, my bad luck was further compounded when i sprained my ankle and had a hard time getting around. in the end, i cut my losses and headed back home a few days early (at this point i was still worried that i might get sick and end up in cuban quarantine instead of with a nice american doctor who actually has drugs to prescribe!)
in the end, i have to say that you can still have a great trip to cuba, especially if you have some spanish. i would also recommend making some contacts in advance with cybercupido or on a similar website. things are not what they once were, but there are still plenty of willing hotties out there roaming the streets. i had a shitty trip, but only because of a string of bad luck. i’ve had so many fantastic trips to cuba, colombia, the dr, etc., i guess i was due.
suerte,
sl
PincheCabron
12-12-06, 21:44
Thanks for the report Salsero. It's a good update The fiasco with jamaica airlines must've sucked. I've toyed with the idea of going through there as I am a big Marley fan but maybe not lol.
Guy,
Can you kindly tell me what currency to take with when in Cuba? Would Canadian currency be okay? What about Master Cards? Can I use it to get cash from machine or bank in Havana? What denominations is better to take?
Thank you for your answer advance.
Nov.
Guy,
Can you kindly tell me what currency to take with when in Cuba? Would Canadian currency be okay? What about Master Cards? Can I use it to get cash from machine or bank in Havana? What denominations is better to take?
Thank you for your answer advance.
Nov.
Canadian £ is ok. Master Cards too. But no cards from American banks. You can get cash at the Cuban banks. There are no machines for foreign cards. Take Canadian £, Euros or Swiss Francs, but no Dollars. I'd recommend American Traveller Cheques (in Swissfrancs, Euros, or Canadian $ but NOT in US$).
You can cash anything up to 100 $ bills. If you change it to Cuban Pesos Convertibiles (CUC) take 10 or 20 $ bills.
Have fun!
Canadian £ is ok. Master Cards too. But no cards from American banks. You can get cash at the Cuban banks. There are no machines for foreign cards. Take Canadian £, Euros or Swiss Francs, but no Dollars. I'd recommend American Traveller Cheques (in Swissfrancs, Euros, or Canadian $ but NOT in US$).
You can cash anything up to 100 $ bills. If you change it to Cuban Pesos Convertibiles (CUC) take 10 or 20 $ bills.
Have fun!You can get money from cash machines with every non-american creditcard Visa, mastercard, visa electron, anything. So you no need chance any money or take money with you if you have the card.
Guy,
Can you kindly tell me what currency to take with when in Cuba? Would Canadian currency be okay? What about Master Cards? Can I use it to get cash from machine or bank in Havana? What denominations is better to take?
Thank you for your answer advance.
Nov.Be warned, if you take credit cards and use them, you get dinged badly on the exchange rate. Best to take as much as you can in cash. I have never tried travellers cheques myself, so I can't comment on how easy it is to exchange them.
Member #4643
12-15-06, 05:29
..I called one of the girls I met on Cybercupido, who proved to be every bit as hot as her picture on the site. We spent a few hours in my apartment, dancing, drinking beers, and finally making out. She ended up spending the night in my apartment, but did not want to have sex that first night, which was a bit frustrating to say the least, but also not a bad sign as it meant that a real GFE was awaiting me on the second or third date. But bad luck struck again when my girl awoke in the morning complaining of swelling and pain in her throat. Turns out that something called “papera,” a virus I presume...Apparently the virus was pretty serious and required a two week quarantine. QUARANTINE! Since I had had my tongue well into her throat just a few hours before, I was pretty worried.
Papera is the mumps. I was under the impression that Cuba had universal immunization against meals mumps and rubella (like the USA); this makes me wonder about the diagnosis. If the diagnosis was correct, you should not be worried.
Linea #10. Top floor, ring the bell.
Awesome place, cheap and even a bar full of lovlies and the bottom of the building.
Half block or less to Malecon, Gato Tuerto, Nacional. I spent a couple of weeks there and literally was not bothered once by the owner.I will be in Havana next week, what is the exact address of this place and do you have any contact info?
Thanks in advance
BeersTerry
12-21-06, 18:38
Back after a couple of weeks. The situation in Havana was not as bad as earlier in the year. Actually was bothered by jineteros. Lots more action on the streets. Malecon was busy again at night. Just gotta be careful to avoid all the maricons on the malecon, they hang out in a huge group.
BeersTerry
12-27-06, 04:17
Why would you want to take a train unless you have time to burn ? If you want to get across the island take a bus. If you want adventure, take a domestic flight. If you want to possibly meet chicas take a car.....though, with car rentals, you have to return it to where you rented it.
Why would you want to take a train unless you have time to burn ? If you want to get across the island take a bus. If you want adventure, take a domestic flight. If you want to possibly meet chicas take a car.....though, with car rentals, you have to return it to where you rented it.
The "especial train" from Havana to Santiago is four hours faster than taking the bus. You leave in the evening from Havana and arrive in Santiago in the early morning. As for dropping off a rental in a different city, I have done it many times and the extra charge is quite reasonable. As for taking the bus, if you want to meet chicas on the bus you should take the Astro line. Not as plush as Viazul, but a hundred times more likely you'll be sitting with Cuban chicas.
The train schedules can be found by doing a search on google using the following keywords ... cuba train schedule
transport
flight to/from varadero
i booked the charter flight with jetairfly through this site:
http://www.jetairfly.com/nl/index.php?
this is the flemish (belgian) version, but sites for other european countries are available by clicking on the flags at the bottom of the page.
a round-trip ticket from brussels to varadero cost me 298€, including all taxes (149€ for each leg).
- the allowance for checked in luggage was 25 kg.
- meals were included.
* non-alcoholic beverages were free of charge.
* alcoholic drinks had to be paid for.
- on the way back, we made a 45 minute stopover in cancun, mexico.
varadero to/from havana
varadero to havana
- i was offered a seat in a taxi for 25 cuc, but had to wait for a couple of hours before we actually took off.
* the taxi was taking a german couple to a fancy resort in havana.
- while i was waiting, i got talking to a regular tourist from my country. he finally caught the viazul bus to havana for 10 cuc.
havana to varadero
- i couldn’t be bothered to wake up early enough to catch the 8am viazul bus to varadero.
* when i arrived at the terminal de omnibus, the next bus was at noon, which was too late for me.
- i enquired about cubataxis, but they told me there weren’t any. they were lying...
* i finally found a cubataxi (shared with another foreigner) for 60 cuc.
* according to the lp guide, it should only have been 44 cuc.
customs
on the way in
getting through customs at varadero airport turned out to be a hassle:
- for starters, they thoroughly searched my hand luggage, which contained nothing but my laptop & photographic equipment.
- they wanted to search my checked in luggage as well.
* there was a queue and i had to wait for a bloody long time before it was my turn.
* while i was waiting, i noticed that only single males were stopped.
* walking out together with a single female traveler should keep customs off your back.
- when it was finally my turn:
* the photographic equipment at the top had the official convinced i was a professional photographer and i sailed through.
* she never saw my huge supply of condoms or my sexy girl’s outfits that were hidden at the bottom.
- others were not so lucky:
* one guy who was carrying a ton of presents for the chicas had all his regalos confirep001ed.
* a pair of sneakers sent by airmail was also confirep001ed.
on the way out
while arriving in cuba was a hassle, going home was a breeze. i wasn’t checked at all.
casa particular
reservation
i made the reservation through:
http://www.havana-rentals.com/index_eng.htm
- i sent them my dates and requested a girl-friendly casa particular with a private entrance.
- within 24 hours, they replied with a list of available casas.
- bertha’s casa was on the list and had been highly recommended.
* bertha’s casa is not on the website.
bertha’s
contact info
bertha’s business card has been attached.
casa
- when i finally arrived at my casa, bertha was waiting for me.
* bertha’s casa is on the 2nd floor.
- bertha doesn’t speak any english.
* in case you don’t speak spanish, her daughter speaks english.
- the large living room features:
* a red sofa & a coffee table.
* a large dinner table & chairs.
* two cabinets full of bric-a-brac.
* a small television set.
** only 4 channels, all in spanish.
** no video entrance, which meant i was unable to show the girls their pictures on tv.
* a fan, but no a/c.
- the bedroom features:
* a comfortable double bed.
* a/c.
* a radio/cd player.
* a safe in the wardrobe.
** bring your own padlock!
- the bathroom features:
* a bathtub with a hot water shower.
** hot water is not always available.
* a wash basin.
- the large fridge near the entrance to the bathroom comes stocked with:
* bottles of water (1 cuc)
* cans of coke (1 cuc)
* cans of beer (1.20 cuc)
- there’s also a balcony, which offers views of the malécon in the distance.
- bertha’s casa connects to your casa.
* she can enter your living room any time.
* she can’t enter your bedroom if you lock the door.
girl-friendly?
- after she showed me around the casa, bertha gave me her speech about the chicas:
* i could have chicas over any time, but always had to register them.
* i could wake bertha up any time to register a chica.
* chicas had to have id and be 18+.
- the one time i had 2 chicas at the same time, bertha came knocking on my door and informed me that wasn’t allowed.
* you can have as many chicas as you want, but only one at a time!
- in practice, i never knocked on bertha’s door when i took a chica to my room. she was probably sound asleep by then and i didn’t want to wake her up.
* the 1st time bertha asked for a girl’s carné was when maria’s “brother” woke her up (day 10).
* when i brought chickie home late afternoon (day 12), she also wanted to see her id.
* when i took 2 girls home that same evening and they weren’t carrying id, i got severely reprimanded.
laundry
bertha can also do your laundry.
she charges:
- 1.50 cuc for long pants
- 1 cuc for shirts
- 0.60 cuc for underwear
- 0.40 cuc for socks
miscellaneous
- bertha cleans the casa every day and changes the towels and sheets every 3-4 days.
- the casa has a phone, but no separate phone number.
* you can make calls free of charge.
* but nobody can call you.
** the phone only rings in bertha’s casa (same number).
- bertha asked me to pay for a week after 5 days. i paid her the rest of the money the day before i left.
atm machines
- atm machines can be found:
* outside the focsa building on calle 17 (2)
* on la rampa (3)
* in the hotel nacional (1)
- atm machines can only dispense 40 bills at a time.
* as most machines only carry 10 cuc and 5 cuc bills, you probably won’t be able to get more than 400 cuc at a time.
* if the machine only holds 5 cuc bills, the maximum will be 200 cuc.
* some machines may carry 50 cuc bills.
- on my final full day in havana, i needed money to pay for my room, but none of the atms in the neighborhood were working.
* in the end, i exchanged some cash at the hotel nacional, as the banks were closed already.
taxis
taxis in havana are bloody expensive!
they charge:
- 1 cuc for the 1st km.
- 0.56 cuc for every next km.
* in 0.14 increments per 250m.
i walked everywhere and never needed a taxi, except when i was with a chica. btw, it may take a long time before you find a taxi along the malécon, especially late at night.
bring everything you need!
many things are difficult to find and/or expensive in cuba. bring everything you need (shampoo, razor blades...) for the duration of your trip.
a few items i had difficulty finding were:
- lighters
* they sell cigarettes everywhere, but lighters are difficult to find.
* they sell them in cigar shops, like the one on la rampa.
- batteries (for my flash)
* i was able to buy batteries in a photo shop inside the focsa building.
loso
Timing
I was in Havana:
September 19 - October 3 (14 nights)
Statistics
During my 14-day stay in Havana, I had:
ST: 22
LT: 0
Girls: 20
Two Faces
My visit to Havana had 2 distinct faces. During the first week, I encountered a lot of dead fish. Only 4 out of 11 girls were really good. The second week, I had nothing but winners – 9 in a row!
Was it just the luck of the draw? Or did I fuck all the most hardcore pros during the first week and encountered mostly semi-pros the second week?
If I’d only spent a week there, Havana would have been thrashed in my report. These are entries from my diary from the first week:
- Cubanas are only interested in what they get out of the deal (money, regalos). They’re not at all concerned with customer satisfaction.
- Cubanas spend a lot of time begging for regalos, fixing their hair...But when it comes to fucking...their friend is waiting.
While those statements retain an element of truth, my opinion of Cubanas was tempered by great experiences during the second week.
Walking Tour
During my two week stay in Havana, I walked the same route every day...again and again and again:
- From my casa on Calle 17, I walked to La Rampa.
* Sometimes I’d head up to the Hotel Habana Libre and check out Coppelia ice cream.
* Other times, I would head straight for the Malécon.
- I walked along the Malécon as far as the Castillo de San Salvador.
* Sometimes I walked along the Malécon.
* Other times, I would walk the other side of the street, checking out the cafeterias.
* At times, I also checked out the back streets, where some of the chicas live or hide from the police.
* On many occasions, I crossed the street when a chica caught my eye.
- A lot of the time, I wouldn’t walk any further than the castle. Other times, I would continue my walking tour.
* I turned right before the castle, and headed for Prado.
* I walked the length of Prado, continuing to the Hotel Inglaterra.
* I checked out the Parque Nacional and some of the side streets, including Obispo and San Rafael.
Hours and hours of walking...every day...for 2 weeks. Even if Havana is a truly beautiful city, whose architecture and 60s atmosphere captivate regular tourists, walking the same beat every day soon becomes a drag.
Hunting for chicas in Havana isn’t much fun...but walking the route I described will eventually reap rewards...and that’s why I stuck at it.
Clubs
There are quite a few clubs on La Rampa, but my dancing shoes got little wear in Havana. I visited Tikoa once, but the chica I danced with was not a “puta barata”. On my sole visit to Karabali Club/Club Amor, there were few unattached girls and when I went to the Las Vegas Club late one night, it was dead.
The clubs on La Rampa also have matinees on weekends. Since the cover charge is low, they attract huge crowds. People are often queuing outside. I tried to talk to a few chicas outside the clubs, but they were waiting for their Cuban boyfriend.
On my final night in Havana, I visited Club 70s at the Hotel Deauville with Betty and had a great time. I recognized a few chicas from the Malécon, but there were also quite a few chicas I’d never seen before. Some of them were pretty hot.
I never made it to the Casa de la Musica, even though I scouted the location one afternoon.
Since discos are my favorite scene and since I love to dance, it’s surprising I spent so little time in the clubs. I often had the intention of hitting a club, but it was always “after my next ST”. And by the time I was ready to go out again, it was too late.
Having a Dominicana rub her ass and pussy against my dick for hours was a blast. After my experiences in the DR, I should have gone clubbing in Havana a lot more often. It may not get me more chicas, but I’d definitely have more fun.
Police Hassle
A lot is written on the boards about the police hassle in Cuba, but I expected it to be a lot worse than it actually was.
Some of the chicas along the Malécon couldn’t talk to me while the police were around. Others told me the police were their friends...as long as they paid them off.
When you meet a chica, you can’t walk her to your casa. The girls I met on La Rampa did walk to my casa, but at a discrete distance. With the other chicas, I had to take a taxi. But getting into a taxi together was no issue. And smuggling the chica into my casa was no problem whatsoever.
By the way, there are undercover cops as well. As I was sitting down outside a cafetaria, some guys tells me to get up. Unless you actually have the authority to stop me, Loso does as he pleases, so I reply: “Tu es policía?” He showed me his badge!
Anyway, the main result of the crackdown seems to be that a lot of regular Cubanas are afraid to even talk to a foreigner. One day, as I was crossing the street, I said “Hola” to a cute blonde who was hitching a ride. As soon as she found out I was an extranjero, she stepped a couple of paces away from me.
According to my good friend Mariachi, who used to love Cuba, but stopped visiting his favorite hunting ground after the crackdown, almost every girl he met wanted to be his novia. They stuck to him like glue, fucked him silly & were heart-broken when he cut them loose.
These days, only hardcore pros and intrepid semi-pros seem to be willing to take the risks associated with P4P in Cuba. Only one chica even mentioned the word “novia” (Betty). And once they’d extracted my leche, they couldn’t wait to get out...
Chicas Cubanas
Price
The standard price for a ST seems to be 30 CUC. I got some chicas for as little as 20 CUC and also paid 40 CUC on a few occasions.
Regalos
As on every trip, I was carrying a whole collection of sexy outfits for the photo shoot. In other countries, girls often ask me for the pictures (I burn them a CD), but they hardly ever ask for the actual clothes.
The Cubanas were all begging me for my outfits, even though most of them would be totally inappropriate in a country like Cuba. After just a few days, I was sick and tired of them begging for regalos, and stopped showing them my collection.
Even then, many girls still asked if I had any regalos. I told them I didn’t have any and quickly changed the subject...
Variety
Cuba offers immense ethnic variety. You’ll encounter blanca blue-eyed blondes (usually fake), typical Latinas with a golden tan, as well as chicas that are black as night.
There is absolutely no racism in Cuba, where mixed couples seem to be the norm, rather than the exception. And racial mixes can produce creatures of extraordinary beauty.
Unique Cuban Style
When a Cubana rides your dick cowgirl-style, she won’t be resting her knees on the bed, like the girls in most other countries. She’ll be squatting with her feet on the bed, and really dancing on your dick. Not only is this uniquely Cuban style visually appealing, it also feels pretty damn good.
BTW, some chicas may actually spin around while sitting on your dick. Que vista!
Chulos
I consider pimps to be the lowest life form on earth. I rate them just below cockroaches and avoid them like the plague.
Unfortunately, almost every jinatera in Cuba seems to have a fucking chulo. Maybe that’s partly due to the crackdown, as girls walking alone will attract police attention. In some cases, the chicas’ chaperones look decidedly gay. But in most cases, they’re the girls’ boyfriends. Bertha referred to Maria’s chulo as her ”marido”. A euphemism or the simple truth?
When I met Dayana, there was no chulo in sight. At my casa, she was proud to tell me she didn’t have or want a chulo. But the next day, I saw her with him. And when she noticed that I spotted her...she tried to hide.
A lot of Cuban couples hang out by the Malécon at night. But the fact that a chica has company does not necessarily mean that she’s not available. If you’re interested in a chica, smile at her, stare at her...make sure that she or someone around her has noticed your interest. If she’s available, they’ll let you know...
Always talk directly to the chica and refuse to negotiate with anyone else, especially her chulo. There were a few occasions when the fucking pimp wouldn’t let me talk to the chica and quoted me ridiculous prices. I yelled a whole lot of insults at the worthless piece of trash, invariable ending with “You little prick!” and the accompanying hand gesture.
One night, when I met Maria (who I’d already fucked twice) along the Malécon, she asked me for a beer. We walked over to a shop, where I bought us both a beer. Maria walked back to the Malécon and offered the beer to her chulo. Needless to say, I snatched the beer out of her hand and threw it in the sea. But this incident clearly indicated where her allegiances lie...
You’ll often see a girl walking with her chulo. He’ll have a beer in his hand. She won’t. A lot of the jinateras wear the same outfit day-in day-out, even though they make plenty of money. In every country I’ve ever been to, the hoes spend a fortune on clothes. Not in Cuba...the money goes to the fucking pimps.
Even though the locals treat them like shit, most Cubanas only seem to be interested in foreigners to make a quick buck. Then they hurry back to that good-for-nothing macho piece of shit who supposedly loves her...the utter stupidity of these girls!
And those damn chulos are probably also the main reason why I spent every one of my 14 nights in Havana sleeping alone. Their chulo was waiting at home...
Miscellaneous
Jinatero Experiment
I talk to chicas. I talk to fellow mongers. But as a general rule, I never talk to local guys when I travel. There’s absolutely nothing they can do for me...
One night in Havana, I made an exception to that rule. Jinatero Jorge started talking to me on La Rampa & spoke good English. He wanted me to take a stroll along the Malécon. Since I was heading that way anyway, I walked along with him, just to see what his game would be. We walked all along the Malécon, then on to Prado before he finally found what he was looking for – two chicas without a chulo. He wanted a fiesta where we could both fuck both of the girls (for 20 CUC and a 3.85 CUC bottle of rum).
Not a bad deal at all! And the girls seemed enthusiastic, as one of them wanted to suck my dick right there on Prado. Nevertheless, Jorge didn’t get the free pussy he was looking for.
Newbies
I meet 2 English guys at Vista Alegre. They were staying at the Hotel Deauville on a package tour, couldn’t speak a word of Spanish and were totally clueless. They were sitting at a table with 4 girls and were generous enough to pick up their 30 CUC tab. They each picked a girl and got into a taxi to a casa particular. One guy finally declined. The other guy paid 50 CUC for the girl and another 20 CUC for the casa. Newbies!
Gay Scene
One day, I spotted 2 chicas along the Malécon. They looked good from a distance, but from up close...something was wrong. I didn’t know Cuba had ladyboys, but there are plenty of them around. The main gay area is on the Malécon, across from La Rampa.
Final Words
On the one hand, Cuba is cheap to get to & has some quality poon available at relatively cheap prices. And if you meet the right girls, the service can be pretty amazing.
On the other hand, I hated the begging for regalos & don’t like to spend the night alone. But most of all, I can’t stand fucking pimps!
The verdict on Havana is still out...
Loso
El Cubanito
12-27-06, 21:47
Any Pics....
BeersTerry
12-28-06, 14:31
If it is the same Loso, lots of pics on another site.
Yes, I have pictures of every single girl I fucked. I never fuck a girl without obtaining photographic evidence first. But since I don't want to get any of the chicas in trouble, I won't post their pictures on a site that may be monitored by the Cuban government.
PS
I just posted some pictures of Dominicanas in the Sosua section.
Loso
Loso69, Thanks for your Cuba reports (and also for your Sosua reports). After hanging around in Cuba for years I will be finally going somewhere different and will be going to Sosua so your recent reports will be useful.
PincheCabron
12-30-06, 05:56
Great report Loso but wow, two weeks straight in havana could result in hardcore habanera overdose. I'll be heading that way soon but I'll probably head east for at least a week.
There is absolutely no racism in Cuba, where mixed couples seem to be the norm, rather than the exception.
I meet 2 English guys at Vista Alegre. They were staying at the Hotel Deauville on a package tour, couldn’t speak a word of Spanish and were totally clueless. They were sitting at a table with 4 girls and were generous enough to pick up their 30 CUC tab. They each picked a girl and got into a taxi to a casa particular. One guy finally declined. The other guy paid 50 CUC for the girl and another 20 CUC for the casa. Newbies!
Price
The standard price for a ST seems to be 30 CUC. I got some chicas for as little as 20 CUC and also paid 40 CUC on a few occasions.
On the one hand, Cuba is cheap to get to & has some quality poon available at relatively cheap prices. And if you meet the right girls, the service can be pretty amazing.
On the other hand, I hated the begging for regalos & don’t like to spend the night alone. But most of all, I can’t stand fucking pimps!
The verdict on Havana is still out...
Loso
The verdict has been delivered loud and clear for for several years. Unless you have old friends calling for your return, it's a shitty place to visit, and the atmosphere of fear is far from anything I would consider a vacation. It has been more dodgy since the old man has been institutionalized.
You're not in any position to knock a newbie that paid $5, for the Mojito, you paid $4 for. All of you activities and locations were of the newbie cookie-cutter, par for the course variety, especially not negotiating upfront for overnighters. I supposed it takes a lot of effort to enter the high-creativity mold of member Berthold.
Berthold's advice is stellar. However, all the extranjero scouting seems to circle around the same worn-out paths of the depleted hunting ground.
All the $5, short-term 1/2hr girls from Monte-Cienfuegos, have moved down to Casa Musica on Galiano and the Malecon. Not surprised they wouldn't want to spend the night, since they have several more tricks in mind.
Funny story as I was walking my dog on a November weekend night. Havana was dead, and the chulo dressed in red capri pants and Puma racers, kept telling the hooker, we need make a Calle Chupa-Chupa score, there are no tourists here. He took her in a stairwell to continue the arguement, as I looked on.
Racism is ever present in Cuba, and anyone who doesn't see it or know of it, hasn't paid his dues in Cuba. And isn't aware of the, whites do business with whites, unwritten law. Hasn't met a VCR repairman who refused to repair a broken VCR of a black guy. I bet you were called an entrenador behind your back, if you were with one of those "black as night" negras.
Rio or Havana? You're joking right, TJ Fannatic
Petrolero,
OK. I was a newbie myself and not in a position to criticize other newbies. But at least I did some homework (RTTFing this and other forums). I knew to stay at a casa particular. I knew where to find chicas... They just showed up, and didn’t know anything. They even presumed there would be no problem bringing girls into the Hotel Deauville!
Not negotiating upfront for overnighters was on purpose. As I said, I had a lot of bad experiences during the first week. I wanted to take the chica ST first, to ascertain whether she was any good in bed. If she was good, I wanted her to stay the night... but she wouldn’t.
Apparently, I was wrong about racism in Cuba. I just noticed loads of mixed couples on the Malécon and drew the wrong conclusion.
Rio or Havana? I don’t know where that remark came from, as I never mentioned Rio. But you’re right. Rio is the real deal and my return to Rio is my top priority for 2007.
Loso
Hello my good freinds,
I just came back from my two weeks vacation travelling from Canada to Varadero, Havana, and Seinfuego. First, I can tell you this was my 2nd trip after 5 years and I really enjoyed it. I read some comments from some of the fellow travellers that the things are not the same as they used to be and police has clamped down on girls in many areas. But for me, things were even better than last time. Girls to pick up were everywhere. Even in Varadero I had proposals at least 3-4 times a day. From Varadero main street to the night clubs I had no issue finding girls. As a matter of fact I never made any attempt to find them and I was constantly approached by girls merely for being ditinguished as a tourist.
My intention this time was to find more non-pro girls and I had many success in that regard. A couple of things that worked for me very well were:
- Rent a car so you pay less from one city to another and/or pay less for taxis.
- Find a cuban preferably a girl to show you the secrets what might other tourists not know.
If you guys have any questions that I can answer, I would be happy to help you out.
Happy mongering
PincheCabron
01-04-07, 06:23
Novox, since you rented a car in havana were you stopped or felt like you were being targeted by police to be shaken down?
Hello my good freinds,
I just came back from my two weeks vacation travelling from Canada to Varadero, Havana, and Seinfuego. First, I can tell you this was my 2nd trip after 5 years and I really enjoyed it. I read some comments from some of the fellow travellers that the things are not the same as they used to be and police has clamped down on girls in many areas. But for me, things were even better than last time. Girls to pick up were everywhere. Even in Varadero I had proposals at least 3-4 times a day. From Varadero main street to the night clubs I had no issue finding girls. As a matter of fact I never made any attempt to find them and I was constantly approached by girls merely for being ditinguished as a tourist.
My intention this time was to find more non-pro girls and I had many success in that regard. A couple of things that worked for me very well were:
- Rent a car so you pay less from one city to another and/or pay less for taxis.
- Find a cuban preferably a girl to show you the secrets what might other tourists not know.
If you guys have any questions that I can answer, I would be happy to help you out.
Happy mongering
Novox, since you rented a car in havana were you stopped or felt like you were being targeted by police to be shaken down?No, I had no issues over this. To be honest with you, the only issue I had over driving was the way Cubans drive which is very different than Canadians. So I hired a Cuban for 10 cuc to drive me around for the first few days. Then I started driving myself and it was okay.
HuevosAzul
01-12-07, 01:23
I was in Havana over the Christmas/New Year. I found that hicas are no problem in many of the clubs/discos. At Casa de la Musica in Miramar, I had over a dozen that approached me within a half hour. Mind you, I'm a guy in his early thirties, good looking, very fit, and dress well. This may had something to do with the high yield of chicas fighting for my attention; who knows. I settled for a good looking blonde that had just turned 18 the month before, with a firm set of C cups, a tiny waist, and an ass you could set your drink on. By the time she got on all fours at my casa, she was dripping wet. The only regret was not having the opportunity to take any pics of her ass boucing off my six pack as her pussy gobbled up my cock! Didn't pay her anything until she left in the morning.
I was in Havana over the Christmas/New Year. I found that hicas are no problem in many of the clubs/discos. At Casa de la Musica in Miramar, I had over a dozen that approached me within a half hour. Mind you, I'm a guy in his early thirties, good looking, very fit, and dress well. This may had something to do with the high yield of chicas fighting for my attention; who knows. I settled for a good looking blonde that had just turned 18 the month before, with a firm set of C cups, a tiny waist, and an ass you could set your drink on. By the time she got on all fours at my casa, she was dripping wet. The only regret was not having the opportunity to take any pics of her ass boucing off my six pack as her pussy gobbled up my cock! Didn't pay her anything until she left in the morning.Hi HuevosAzul,
Next 15-02-2007 I go to Havana,
Pls info from tel. chicas via pm.
Thankx,
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My friends,
I have been to Cuba several times over the past 5 years or so. We know that pussy is not difficult to find at good prices and that you can get some of the most beautiful chicas to open up for you. The question is how many of us have been able to get anal and rimming services. I have never been so lucky. Does anyone have any numbers or references? I am traveling over there in May of this year.
Alan
I have had several good anal experiences around Cuba, all you need is some patience, lube and being able to speak spanish. In most cases they will be anal virgins, in cuba anal is still a big taboo.
They always say no when I first asked, and most say they have never done it before it helped me dating the girl for at least 2 days. I ask the first day and when she says no I only explain how it works and play with a finger and lube during vaginal sex, done gently they dont feel any pain, the girl relaxes and if she is not too tight she will let you try full anal sex the next time (some cuban girls are extremely tight and you realy need to be patient to get in)
Hope this helps.
Loso, great report. Your reporting style is very readable. I was hoping to get across to Havana again this year but the ongoing situation with Fidel has me keeping my distance.
Hotel Deauville. I stayed there for all of 2 nights then evacuated my ass to Inglaterra. Much nicer surroundings. You get a front row seat every day watching the chicas walk by the bar.
I agree with your views on the pimps. Blasted annoyance you could well do without. The cuban cowgirl is fun though, unfortunately I lost my condom inside and had to go looking for it.
Birmingham Town
03-01-07, 21:10
Hi,
Does anyone know a girl called YISET in Havana? She has kind of curly hair? I met her in the last trip and but lost her contact.
Organicgrowth
03-03-07, 16:34
Your chances of finding "your" YISET in Havana are low as this is a common name... Any more description than "kind of curly hair"?
Best wishes on this but man your chances are low.
Regards, Havanaman
Member #4447
03-05-07, 17:31
Dont go to Cuba
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Dont go to Cuba. Police all over, your not allowed to bring girls to the hotels or the casaparticulares. To much hussle. Prostitutions is illegal and the police put the girls in jail if they see you talk them (yes I said talk). There are much better choices Brazil, Thailand etc. Too much hussle.
Dont go to Cuba
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Dont go to Cuba. Police all over, your not allowed to bring girls to the hotels or the casaparticulares. To much hussle. Prostitutions is illegal and the police put the girls in jail if they see you talk them (yes I said talk). There are much better choices Brazil, Thailand etc. Too much hussle.I go to Cuba about 3 time a year for the past 10 years. Yes, things have changed dramatically in that time. Things are not as easy but it is still possible. Some places more than others. In Oriente, things are particularly difficult which prevents me from going there. I always stayed in Guanabo but the night life has really fallen, so I have ventured more to Habana these passed few trips. While I have my regulars, I always find a new friend every trip. You have to know the rules of the game in order play. It surely helps that I am somewhat fluent in the language but I have run across other Yumas that are not and they are able to have a good time. If you have the look of desperation or think that you do not have to pay something for company because you're young or handsome, then indeed for most, Cuba is not the place to visit for a mongering trip. However, what do I know?
World Cruiser
03-17-07, 21:48
My favorite casa in Havana is no longer for rent so I'm looking for some help in finding a replacement. I've been staying in Vedado on Calle 1ra down the street from the Melia Cohiba and the Rivera. The place I stayed in was a stand-alone one bedroom, A/C, and a balcony overlooking the Malecon and, needless to say, g/f (since I was the only one there they never had to show their carnet). I checked the Miramar forum and there seem to be some good places there but I don't usually rent a car so I like being close to those hotels because it's easy to find a taxi. There is also the supermercado in the Galeria de Paseo. I'm subscribed so if you'd prefer you can PM me with suggestions. I'm headed back at the end of April so I'd like to book something soon.
Thanks!
As a newbie, totally, and being 57, what comments do you have about mongering in cuba: is my age going to be a problem : ya, ya, I know all the comments, guys; but seriously.
Holden Caulfield
03-20-07, 00:20
A very good replacement might be the top floor of Linea #10. Right at the Malecon. Bar full of hotties in the basement. A block to the Nacional. Totally private place. Look to pay around $30 - 35 but you have a balcony, view etc.
Hey guys,
I'm headed down to Havana end of March beginning of April and this will be my first time going down. I was checking to see if anyone else will be in Havana around the same time and maybe I can get some info from some people. I would need a casa to stay in has to be chica friendly and not to far from the action. Do they play any dance / hip hop music anywhere in Havana? Any recommendations would be appreciated and or helpful hints to make my trip more enjoyable.
Member #4364
03-21-07, 12:17
Sorry, i am newbie. The radio or tv in the casas i read, is it possible to get
international channels like bbc or cnn ?
Thx
Holden Caulfield
03-21-07, 23:39
International tv only is in hotels. Satellites are illegal in Cuba for private citizens.
I will be in Havana in the beginning of April and I want to visit Cienfuegos or other towns. I found a casa in Vedado (2 rooms for 20 CUC and the owner speak english very good, offer to rent a car for cheap). It'll be my first time in Cuba also. I am going alone. I can't send you a private message because you are a regular member (I've just subscriepted).
Maybe you want to meet in Havana and share the info about everything, go to clubs to meet chicas.
Do some other members have some advises for newbies?
Thanks
Hi, all!
I'll be in Cuba with a friend of mine in April for two weeks.
The second week I'll be alone and I'm looking for a Casa Particular
near the sea side and not far from night action and the airport.
I'm not going to rent a car by myself for the second week.
Any advice will be apreciated. Language is not a problem.
I'll submit a report as soon I'll come back.
TIA
Hi!
I'm a long time lurker at this forum. Gotta congratulate people on the great stuff they post!!! Anyway, I'll be in Cuba 12/4-27/4 and was wondering if anybody has any advice on how to spend this holiday from a mongering perspective. I have spread my wild oats in countries/places like Chech republic, Hungary, Slovakia, France, Sweden, Croatia, Thailand, China, Vietnam, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Denmark, Britain, Holland, Spain, Germany, USA etc.. But I got to say that I have never been to the Carribean or South America nor do I speak spanish.
I have attached an image of a girl I met in Pattaya that followed me for a 2 weeks travelling in Thailand. She was very willing, sweet, very sexual and felt like a real GFE. Will I be able to find this kind of girls on Cuba? Btw, I'm 35 years old, and in good shape although women generally don't find me attractive.
Joe02
If you're coming to Cuba for the salsa, history, rum and the music, then it'll be an awesome vacation. But if you're coming for the mongering and want a contract girlfriend, then Cuba is the wrong place.
The harassment on the girls that you pick up will be merciless. They just might haul her off to do some hard time. It's no joke.
If you want a contract girlfriend, then head to Dominican republic. Cuba - I really, really doubt it.
Joe....hows about giving us all just a snippet of a report, from ONE of the 13 plus countries you've mongered in?
Instead of lurking for years and giving nothing then coming on here and asking someone to be your ISG PA!
Bois
Hi!
I'm a long time lurker at this forum. Gotta congratulate people on the great stuff they post!!! Anyway, I'll be in Cuba 12/4-27/4 and was wondering if anybody has any advice on how to spend this holiday from a mongering perspective. I have spread my wild oats in countries/places like Chech republic, Hungary, Slovakia, France, Sweden, Croatia, Thailand, China, Vietnam, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Denmark, Britain, Holland, Spain, Germany, USA etc.. But I got to say that I have never been to the Carribean or South America nor do I speak spanish.
I have attached an image of a girl I met in Pattaya that followed me for a 2 weeks travelling in Thailand. She was very willing, sweet, very sexual and felt like a real GFE. Will I be able to find this kind of girls on Cuba? Btw, I'm 35 years old, and in good shape although women generally don't find me attractive.
Wet Nose, . Thanks for the info. I will actually be in Havana for business the first days, but anything after that is vacation. And I am definately interested in the history, rum and music (maybe even salsa). But it would be nice to experience these things with a young latino goddess. So your info is disheartening. Although I have laid some groundwork by establishing internet contact with a few girls, so I will see how this pans out. Anyway, maybe I should prepare plan be, a plane ticket to DR or Colombia then. I hear good things about Colombia.
Bbois77,
Unfortunately I only started very recently to document (photo) my exploits so I have a very limited (1 girl, the one posted earlier) on photo. I promise that from hereafter (starting with Cuba) I will do better. But I will do two things to give back some to the community right now.
i) rank the countries that I have visited price/service
ii) a brief field report of a sweet encounter in Zagreb, Croatia
i) Here goes the ranking from the best to the worst experiences (from the top of my head, parten the pun :)))):
Thailand, Pattaya 40$/night, 23y beautiful, real GFE, BBBJ to CIM,
Vietnam, Hanoi 60$/night, 20y extremely beatiful, big tits white skin, BBBJ
Latvia, Riga 40$/hour 22y, sexy EE-girl, BBBJ
Croatia, Zagreb 45$/massage, 20y, sex goddess, hit it off with masseuse, see report below
China, Shanghai 30$/massage, HJ, 20ish beautiful,
Slovakia, Bratislava 120$/4h, 18y w. baby fat, bareback offered, mechanical
Holland, Eindhoven 100 Euro/40min, 25y, professional
Germany, Regensburg 50 Euro/20 min, 25ish cute
Sweden, Gothenburg 160 Euro/30 min, 20y that just botoxed her lips
Spain, Malaga 60 Euro/30 min, 25ish, mechanical
Poland, Warsaw 30$/h, 27y a bit saggy, going through the motions
Estonia, Tallinn 50 Euro/30min, 30y mom w. birth marks,
Hungary, 40 Euro/20 min, 30ish, very mechanical
USA, NY 60$/massage, 35ish fully clothed, HJ
ii) A year ago I was in Zagreb Croatia and decided to visit one of the massage parlours that offers 'opustajuce' massages, i.e 'relaxing' massages. The asking price was 45$ in Croatian Kuna:s. Anyway, I went there expecting a HJ at best. Ana, the 20 year old lady that was to massage was very sexy with brown long hair, a bit of a Natalie Portman lookalike, maybe just a tad rounder. She was also very talkative, and inquisitive about my tattoos. I speak the lingo by the way. She was also impressed by my travels. By the time it was time for the 'happy ending' i.e HJ, we hade made a connection i felt, but she was still fully clothed. So I asked her if she could help me in another way. She said that they were not allowed to have sex in the massage parlour, but that for an extra 45$ she would do BBBJ. I said that I did not have anything more than the initial 45$ but if she came to my hotel the next morning and spent a couple of hours there I would give her 1000 Kuna:s which is ~170$. She agreed and proceeded to give me a real nice BBBJ for free in the MP. During the BBBJ i fingered her heavily, and she was getting extremely wet. I finally came with a HJ finishing me off, she did not want me to finish in her mouth. Anyway, the next morning she came to the hotel and we started with BBBJ and then covered mish. Ooooh my god was her body perfect, she had this milky white skin and a pertness and firmness that only a 20 year old can posess. And those gravity defying tits, a perfect shape with large nipples. But since I was tired and hung over from last nights barhopping i had trouble maintaining a stiffie while doing mish. When trying to explain to her what the problem was she offered bareback sex thinking that I was having trouble with the condom. I was a bit shocked that she was offering this, especially since she claimed that she was studying to be a nurse and should know about the hazards of bareback sex. When I started lecturing her about not offering bareback sex to semi-strangers she got upset. She explained that this was not something she did regularly, and that genuinely liked me, thats why she made the offer. After this we went back to business, but I did not do her bareback instead she finished me off with a BBBJ in her mouth. I think that the combination of sweetness and naughtiness she expressed as a facial expression when I came in her mouth is something I will remember for ever. She also coyishly asked me if that felt good right after I had come. To this day I get a rockhard woodie just thinking about it (also while writing this). I still keep in touch with her.
Anyway, I have to pack for my trip to Cuba.
Joe
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Hi!
I'm a long time lurker at this forum. Gotta congratulate people on the great stuff they post!!! Anyway, I'll be in Cuba 12/4-27/4 and was wondering if anybody has any advice on how to spend this holiday from a mongering perspective. I have spread my wild oats in countries/places like Chech republic, Hungary, Slovakia, France, Sweden, Croatia, Thailand, China, Vietnam, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Denmark, Britain, Holland, Spain, Germany, USA etc.. But I got to say that I have never been to the Carribean or South America nor do I speak spanish.
I have attached an image of a girl I met in Pattaya that followed me for a 2 weeks travelling in Thailand. She was very willing, sweet, very sexual and felt like a real GFE. Will I be able to find this kind of girls on Cuba? Btw, I'm 35 years old, and in good shape although women generally don't find me attractive.I am new to this Forum but being a Veteran of Cuba since 1994 and having spent 3 months in Pattaya in last 18 months....Yes, you can find GREAT GFE in Cuba similar to what you experienced in Patts. That said I would give this warning....Pattaya, Thailand has 10s of 1000s of girls there at any given time exclusively to go with Tourists (aka Farangs). Havana or Cuba in general the same game is a less obvious and more problematic (although the rewards are great). In Cuba there is a bit of sneaking around to avoid the cops, dealing with the occasional pimp (chulo) which has NEVER been a problem in Patts and the quality of food/accomodations in Cuba pales in comparison to the excellent/cheap prices in Patts.
I notice there aren't many Cuba posts of late. Not many people going nowadays? I have been twice since last November and Ican't wait to get back there. Searching the different flights at www.mycubafest.com looking for good August airfares. Trying to find a house in Vedado with a pool (any help/suggestions are appreciated). I notice it takes a while for some posts to make it to the board. Is that normal or just for new members? Just curious. Here is a foto of a Cienfuegos girl from my last trip to Cfgs.
(...) Trying to find a house in Vedado with a pool (any help/suggestions are appreciated). (...)
Never heard of a house in Vedado with a pool (exept the hotels). The Poolhouses are in Miramar.
Toptraveler1
05-01-07, 23:21
I plan to go to Cuba this summer and I'd like to know if...
1-it is better to have a hotel room or live with a cubain family? How much cost a hotel room? which one is the best and girlfriendly?
2- to find a girl should I go to some special places-clubs or I have just wait for some eye contacts?
3-How much you think I will need to spend 12 days in Havana, girls included?
Thank you for your help
I plan to go to Cuba this summer and I'd like to know if...
1-it is better to have a hotel room or live with a cubain family? How much cost a hotel room? which one is the best and girlfriendly?
2- to find a girl should I go to some special places-clubs or I have just wait for some eye contacts?
3-How much you think I will need to spend 12 days in Havana, girls included?
Thank you for your help1-NO Hotel, rent a casa. There are several agencies to help you reserve one. Go to www.mycubafest.com and use the Havana-Rental or Cuba Accomodation links (I suggest H.R.). When they send you casa info, reply and ask about the casa rules regarding overnight female guests. H.R. knows the deal and will assure you if the casa allows guests. I have NEVER had a problem IF I asked the question first.
2-Most of the girls you can pick up in the clubs are hardcore. I rarely hunt the discos and have had most luck during the day on the street. Do you speak Spanish?
3-Cost of 12 days in Havana including girls? I would suggest budgeting $150-$200/day for the trip, depending if you have a rental car or driver.
Toptraveler1
05-02-07, 19:25
Thank you for your answers.
I don't speak spanish at all even if I had spanish courses during 3 years.
I plan to go to Cuba specially because I will be in the USA this summer ( from Europe where I live). But I am thiking also to go to Costa Rica, may be a better place to find beautifull chicas. Have u ever been in Costa Rica?
I 've heard that in Cuba it is very easy to find "normal" girls, no pros, like students. True?
1-NO Hotel, rent a casa. There are several agencies to help you reserve one. Go to www.mycubafest.com and use the Havana-Rental or Cuba Accomodation links (I suggest H.R.). When they send you casa info, reply and ask about the casa rules regarding overnight female guests. H.R. knows the deal and will assure you if the casa allows guests. I have NEVER had a problem IF I asked the question first.
2-Most of the girls you can pick up in the clubs are hardcore. I rarely hunt the discos and have had most luck during the day on the street. Do you speak Spanish?
3-Cost of 12 days in Havana including girls? I would suggest budgeting $150-$200/day for the trip, depending if you have a rental car or driver.
Jazzy Daddy
05-02-07, 23:48
Heading over in 2 weeks. I'm meeting a couple of chicas there but I want to know if I can get a sim card,calling card on just use the casa's land line. Thanks in advance...
Thank you for your answers.
I don't speak spanish at all even if I had spanish courses during 3 years.
I plan to go to Cuba specially because I will be in the USA this summer ( from Europe where I live). But I am thiking also to go to Costa Rica, may be a better place to find beautifull chicas. Have u ever been in Costa Rica?
I 've heard that in Cuba it is very easy to find "normal" girls, no pros, like students. True?At the www.mycubafest.com site are some FREE translation sites. You might want to translate a couple phrases you may need during your trip. The reports I get from Costa Rica are the girls are mostly pro with the hottest being Colombians. Chances of good GFE seem limited. Cuba on the other hand has plentiful GFE however the police hassling the girls is an ongoing problem. The Puniversity students are my favorite. Either from the Puniversity of Habana or the Puniversity de Ciencias Informaticas.
Although I have never been to C.R. I do have many friends that have visited that country. All reports seem similar. C.R. is tough for the GFE and nearly impossible if you don't speak Spanish.
Just back from Havana
Lots of chicas everywhere best places to go are in the back street bars but not for the faint hearted i would advice anybody only who is strong minded to go off the beaten track but it is well rewarding.
I had 3 girls each tried to up the price but paid 15 GBP for LT & 10 GBP for a ST all girls will let you CIM good luck
Chicochulo
05-26-07, 08:03
There hasn't been alot of chatter in the Cuba forum for awhile, so I thought I'd contribute my thoughts and opinions. Hoping for the forum to wake up. First of all, Cuba is the most unique mongering safari in the world. I say safari because it's a rugged journey for the less adventureous types that like the gogo bars and refined retail establishments. Most of us are spoiled rotten when we go to Brazil or Colombia. In Cuba, these days, the best results come from developing a working knowledge of the language and the people. Cuba is a GFE oasis where you can enjoy the company of a chica and lose yourself in the fantasy that she is truly your ideal lover. If on the other hand, you want quantity, there are risks and complications (previously posted in this forum) that are just not worth the hassle for you and the girls.
I'm one of the lucky guys. For years, I have made great friends on the island. They are like family now. I make it clear to them before I visit, what I am looking for. To be honest, it isn't always about the 'bollo'. I flew in 5 boxes of donated clothing and medical supplies after a particularly bad hurricane. Air Canada was great about minimizing the cargo charges. Anyway, after 2 days going thru customs in Havana and finally freeing up the supplies, the smiles and besotes I received were truly worth the money spent. The papaya has been constant as well. There's nothing sweeter than the face of a tender 21 yo amateur cuddled up with you in bed at midnight, in the middle of a tropical storm. The sound of the wind, the smell of the rain and sensation of your chica's vibrating hips as you pound her relentlessly. I wish I could bottle that 10, 000 rpm hip shake thing and feed it to northern women. It's a genuine turn on because you can't fake it. Cuban women are masters at the art of deception but when they are really turned on you better be wearing your seatbelt and know how to ride a mustang.
I don't search the inner city. I prefer the university scene and live theater. I speak good spanish (a must) and I always give small gifts when visiting the home of a friend or novia. I never address the issue of chasing jineteras but instead, express an interest in meeting this or that cousin, aunt or relative. I never and I mean never go after the daughters of my extended family. Even though, they are by far the hottest and sexiest and most plentiful. It just doesn't seem right. I've never even asked about it. In fact, I'm certain, I've been successful because I'm marginally accepted as el tio (the uncle) although I know I'm just another yuma. So, what do you think?
Chicochulo
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PincheCabron
05-27-07, 20:22
I agree. If you go out of your way to make friends in cuba it'll be more than worth it. I don't mean with chulos hanging out in the street. Strike up a conversation with a normal working cuban and see if you have any similiar interests. Of course some conversational spanish will help or he speaks some english. In my case I met a coco taxi driver a few years back and we struck up a friendship. This has led to introductions to many of his female acquaintainces who are looking to meet a foreigner or just make some extra cuc on the sides while having fun. Meeting normal chicas out in the street will take a lot of effort on your part nowadays especially in havana.
There hasn't been alot of chatter in the Cuba forum for awhile, so I thought I'd contribute my thoughts and opinions. Hoping for the forum to wake up. First of all, Cuba is the most unique mongering safari in the world. I say safari because it's a rugged journey for the less adventureous types that like the gogo bars and refined retail establishments. Most of us are spoiled rotten when we go to Brazil or Colombia. In Cuba, these days, the best results come from developing a working knowledge of the language and the people. Cuba is a GFE oasis where you can enjoy the company of a chica and lose yourself in the fantasy that she is truly your ideal lover. If on the other hand, you want quantity, there are risks and complications (previously posted in this forum) that are just not worth the hassle for you and the girls.
I'm one of the lucky guys. For years, I have made great friends on the island. They are like family now. I make it clear to them before I visit, what I am looking for. To be honest, it isn't always about the 'bollo'. I flew in 5 boxes of donated clothing and medical supplies after a particularly bad hurricane. Air Canada was great about minimizing the cargo charges. Anyway, after 2 days going thru customs in Havana and finally freeing up the supplies, the smiles and besotes I received were truly worth the money spent. The papaya has been constant as well. There's nothing sweeter than the face of a tender 21 yo amateur cuddled up with you in bed at midnight, in the middle of a tropical storm. The sound of the wind, the smell of the rain and sensation of your chica's vibrating hips as you pound her relentlessly. I wish I could bottle that 10, 000 rpm hip shake thing and feed it to northern women. It's a genuine turn on because you can't fake it. Cuban women are masters at the art of deception but when they are really turned on you better be wearing your seatbelt and know how to ride a mustang.
I don't search the inner city. I prefer the university scene and live theater. I speak good spanish (a must) and I always give small gifts when visiting the home of a friend or novia. I never address the issue of chasing jineteras but instead, express an interest in meeting this or that cousin, aunt or relative. I never and I mean never go after the daughters of my extended family. Even though, they are by far the hottest and sexiest and most plentiful. It just doesn't seem right. I've never even asked about it. In fact, I'm certain, I've been successful because I'm marginally accepted as el tio (the uncle) although I know I'm just another yuma. So, what do you think?
Chicochulo
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
There hasn't been alot of chatter in the Cuba forum. (...) So, what do you think?
Chicochulo
You are absolutely right. Thats pretty much my way too.
Allthough I sometimes also enjoy the company of the jineteras. But you always have to distinguish between friends and jineteras.
Dars Veider
06-24-07, 15:20
Hey Guys,
Can anybody recommend a chica friendly casa particular in Havana (Centro Havana, or Old Havana)? With address, email and/ or tel no?
Can anybody recommend any chica? Name, Tel no, Email?
Thanx,
Dars
Chicochulo
06-27-07, 07:02
Your request for info about casas, chicas etc ...in Havana is a dangerous topic online. Personally, I wouldn't even reveal this info to someone in a PM. It's common knowledge, the pigs in Cuba read this forum. I'd never compromise my friends. Since this is your first posting, you could very well be one of them. I'm not flaming on you - just pointing out a fact. I suggest you study your spanish, study all the info you can get from this forum, read up on Cuba and all the wonderful people that live there (puercos not included) and then invest wisely in travelling around the island. If you are sincere and street smart (in a big way) your adventure will be memorable. If you just want chicas like fast food. I'd recommend the DR.
CC
Dars Veider
07-01-07, 22:20
Sorry for asking this silly questions in this forum.
I will find out myself!
Dars
Has anyone stayed in any of the hotels located near the Prado recently? What's the scene like these days? I spent a couple of weeks in a venerable location on the square a couple of years ago and it was great. Went out for a walk down one of the side streets after 11.00pm past a few watering holes and was propositioned multiple times. It's nice! Just wondering what the action is like now.
Sorry for asking this silly questions in this forum.
I will find out myself!
DarsTried to send you a personal message with the casa info you requested but it was blocked.
Sorry, I tried.
I will be in l'Havana with girlfriend. Any suggestions for a ST - Day time?
Thanks
Member #3200
07-22-07, 04:38
Depends How Much Your Girlfriend Charges-hahaha
Depends How Much Your Girlfriend Charges-hahahaWell, as everybody here know, regular GFs are among the most expensive good on earth.
C'mon, suggestions much appreciated.
I went to Havana a few years back (from new york) and am considering going back this summer.
Travelled via Cancun last time. Any route suggestions?
Can you get to Havana via Nassau, Bahamas?
(I have been unable to find flights for this route)
Thanks,
T
I went to Havana a few years back (from new york) and am considering going back this summer.
Travelled via Cancun last time. Any route suggestions?
Can you get to Havana via Nassau, Bahamas?
(I have been unable to find flights for this route)
Thanks,
TCancun is probably still your best bet. That is the way I usually go and it was hassle free in April.
I don't think you will find Cuba as it was "a few years back". Fidel had been tightening the screws but with Raul running the show, it has gotten even worse. Gone are the days when you would see hundreds of top tier chicas on the Malecon or La Rampa. Now it is mostly pros and ugly ones at that.
If you have checked some boards like this one, you will find out that Cuba is no longer the mongering destination it was even three years ago. Thus, there are few posts on it anymore. Unless you speak good spanish or have good connections, you should probably reconsider going to Cuba.
Chicochulo
07-31-07, 11:21
I have noticed, Cuba is awash with female cougars from Europe and North America. They don't seem to have any trouble whatsoever with the present situation. They disguise their affairs with the young cuban men as deep meaningful relationships but from what I've seen, they aren't there for any other reason than us. We have been replaced by the guards of our own sex prison. I feel like running my tin cup along the bars of my cell and shouting, 'Let's roit!'
CC
Member #4167
08-13-07, 17:19
and second: they normally test them only for hiv and hepatitis. they arent tested on "minor" diseases like gonorrhea, chlamydia etc. these std's normally dont bother women - most don't even know they are infected - but when a guy gets it it feels like he was peeing shards.
so, the std-rates actually may be lower than in other countries (according to the bearded ones propaganda), but ...are there really alot of "minor" stds in cuba?
what about gential herpes?
is genital herpes considered a "minor" disease?
looking at other countries in the region, according to statistics - appx 50% of colombianas and costa ricans have gential herpes. probably the proportion is much higher with sex workers (probably like 70%)
so is cuba really a std-free gfe-experience paradise - or is it just hepatitis and aids free.
El Cubanito
08-15-07, 13:47
I always go covered, unless I have a blood test done on the girl and I know she is clean. Even then I am still a little concern.
Chicochulo
08-15-07, 18:06
There is no such thing as an STD free society. Cuba is no different than any other country, when it comes to these issues. To their credit, the cubans promote condoms and safe sex practised. I was impressed with their TV campaign about HIV and the proper use of latex wrappers. However, bring your own supply because the condom they import from china are inferior.
CC
Thinking of doing New Year's in Havana this year. Anyone there at the same time? Have been in Cienfuegos for a couple of New Years including 1999-2000 and things are generally VERY quiet. Any advice/observations?
I was in Holguin for New years last year, Lots of chicas out, but too many extended families out, so they were not interested in too much. Didn't really hav e much fun and the 3 days of holidays didn't help.
Member #4167
09-24-07, 18:55
What are the best places for diving, fishing and lobstering in Cuba?
I have heard that it is illegal for the locals to catch lobster - but that tourists can catch all they want and that the lobster is pletinful. Is this true?
I saw a show on the lobstering industry arount the Isla De Juventud - is that one of the best places for diving and lobstering in Cuba?
Any other places?
Member #4167
09-24-07, 19:24
I want to stay away from Varadero. From what I have heard it is not a good mongering spot. Cayo Coco is jjust too far out of the way.
Are there any NON-TOURIST towns that are good places for combined GFE and diving/lobstering?
What about Guardalavaca in Holguin?
El Cubanito
09-26-07, 14:13
I want to stay away from Varadero. From what I have heard it is not a good mongering spot. Cayo Coco is jjust too far out of the way.
Are there any NON-TOURIST towns that are good places for combined GFE and diving/lobstering?
What about Guardalavaca in Holguin?
You should look into Baracoa. It is one of the hardest place to go to if you do not rent a car, but it loaded with treasure. I have been to Baracoa 2 times in 2003 and 2005. The people are ultra-friendly here, plus the chica are very exotic. As far as fishing, snokeling and Lobstering, the locals do it all the time.
El Cubanito
Member #4167
09-26-07, 14:49
You should look into Baracoa. It is one of the hardest place to go to if you do not rent a car, but it loaded with treasure. I have been to Baracoa 2 times in 2003 and 2005. The people are ultra-friendly here, plus the chica are very exotic. As far as fishing, snokeling and Lobstering, the locals do it all the time.
El CubanitoGracias !
when you say "the chica are very exotic" do you mean as in very dark Negritas ? I dont like the dark chicas, prefer the white skinned european looking. Mixta / Mulattas are OK.
I am only for GFE or, a REAL GF, or God Forbid maybe a long term relationship.
When you said "it loaded with treasure" do you mean: primarily as in Chicas, or the whole place in general ?
El Cubanito
09-27-07, 17:50
Gracias !
when you say "the chica are very exotic" do you mean as in very dark Negritas ? I dont like the dark chicas, prefer the white skinned european looking. Mixta / Mulattas are OK.
I am only for GFE or, a REAL GF, or God Forbid maybe a long term relationship.
When you said "it loaded with treasure" do you mean: primarily as in Chicas, or the whole place in general ?
Baracoa IS NOT like Santiago or Guantanamo where the people of black skin are the dominat race. The Cubana in Baracoa are mostly white or white mix with the Native Cuban Indian. Baracoa is the only city in Cuba where I saw the a strong influence of the Cuban Indians that were wipe out the by the Spanish back in the 1600's. Some of the girls here because of the Indian, Spanish and Black mix is very exotic. I am at work right now, but i will post some pic later
El Cubanito
I heard Baracao is a beautifull place.
But also that it is pretty small and that everybody knows everybody and that there is a lot of control. True?
Steven Smith
09-30-07, 15:50
I heard Baracao is a beautifull place.
But also that it is pretty small and that everybody knows everybody and that there is a lot of control. True?True. I have taken my chica there several times and every time, she was summoned to the police station the next day for a "chat".
AP article from a few weeks back: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20070910/ap_tr_ge/travel_trip_cuba_forbidden_travel
Member #4167
10-08-07, 18:14
According to a post a year ago by Loso69, and to other posts.
Anyway, the main result of the crackdown seems to be that a lot of regular Cubanas are afraid to even talk to a foreigner. ... According to my good friend Mariachi, who used to love Cuba, but stopped visiting his favorite hunting ground after the crackdown, almost every girl he met wanted to be his novia. They stuck to him like glue, fucked him silly & were heart-broken when he cut them loose. These days, only hardcore pros and intrepid semi-pros seem to be willing to take the risks associated with P4P in Cuba. Pelon said:
I don't think you will find Cuba as it was "a few years back". Fidel had been tightening the screws but with Raul running the show, it has gotten even worse. Gone are the days when you would see hundreds of top tier chicas on the Malecon or La Rampa. Now it is mostly pros and ugly ones at that.Cuba is no longer the mongering destination it was even three years ago. Thus, there are few posts on it anymore. Unless you speak good spanish or have good connections, you should probably reconsider going to Cuba. Fellow Cubaphiles:
I have diligently researched cuba on this forum. Dont get me wrong with my criticisms of the state of tourism and mongering in Cuba. I'm a fan of Cuba and all things Cuban. I was wondering if you guys concur with the following:
10 years ago - The Country
The country is stunningly beautiful, the people are educated and freindly, the country is safe. It is a beautiful tropical destination with great fishing and diving. It was/is cheap. Communist country, Police everywhere, and it made it safe.
10 years ago - The Chicas
Havana Cuba was a wonderful place to have unique GFE experience 10 years ago. You could walk up and talk to any chica on the street. You could meet a non-pro (or semi-pro). IT was like having a girlfreind, here in the US. You have a great GFE experience where the woman made you feel like a king. a Girlfreind was the norm rather than strict P4P. (Which is what I like) Sex was cheap or free. You gave them a few regalos. or maybe 10 bucks. You could easily pickup chicas in a resort destination like Veradero.
10 years ago - The Logistics (The Hassles)
But even 10 years ago, there were problems. To get into the country you had to have a hotel reservation. Hotels did NOT allow chica to come in. To get a chica you had to have a Casa PArticular. IT was still a hassle to bring in chicas to a casa particular. Not all Casa PArticulars allowed chicas. Landladys stick there nose in and come in uninvited (no privacy). The chicas were allowed in and didn't have to register.
Today - what has changed
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Today - The Country, The Land
The country & people are still the same beautiful.
Today - The Chicas
What has changed:
The police are hassling any cubana caught with an extranjero. And they are throwing them in jail after 2-3 times.
As a result cubanas are afraid of talking to an extranjero, so it is much harder for you to meet girls.
It now costs you 20 30 40 CUC to get a girl
And she is probably is a hardened pro, not a girlfriend type.
Today - The Logistics (The Hassles)
What has changed:
You still need a Casa Particular.
But now, the landlady writes down the name of the chica (not good)
Police everywhere, and now they hassle the extranjeros too! (not cool)
Conclusion:
Because of the ailments of El Jefe, but I think MORE because Cuba was accused of being a "Sex Tourism Destination" a few years back. El Jefe is saying:
"If you come to Cuba to get a little chocho, we will make it very difficult for you to so. Sure, come to Cuba - we want your dollars. But, we want you to ONLY stay in an AI or resort town like Veradero. By the way, we will make damn sure to keep all the available chicas out of Veradero and the other AIs. And try to venture out of Veradero - well you'll find that we've 'educated' the normal, civilian chicas - you'll find that the only available are the ones who have a special arrangement with the police."
I was wondering if you guys concur with the above?
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Member #4167
10-08-07, 18:55
Could the police hassling of jineteras be minimal off the beaten path in place like Holguin or Baracoa ? (Actually, the last post seems to say that the answer is NO - the police hassling of Jins stil persists in remote Baracoa.)
By the way, I really love the water. Hence the name "Water Boy." I love the water as much as a love the chicas. The best thing for me is a combination: una chica mojada. (I'm mean like on a beach their hair wet, just having come out of the water.)
Is the situation only that way in Habana & VEradero and the AI resorts ?
Or is it all over the island ?
Member #4167
10-08-07, 20:07
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Want To Play
10-09-07, 02:42
A couple of years back there was a beautiful Cubana named Adrianna. Just wondered if anyone knows about her. If she is still there or how to contact her. I haven't forgotten that beautiful face and have only seen her pictures. I would make a trip to Cuba just to see her!!! Thanks.
Chicochulo
10-09-07, 06:09
Could the police hassling of jineteras be minimal off the beaten path in place like Holguin or Baracoa ? (Actually, the last post seems to say that the answer is NO - the police hassling of Jins stil persists in remote Baracoa.)IMHO the police are a secondary issue to the problem with finding chicas. The real hassle comes from the eyes and ears of the loyal revolutionaries. The staunch Fidelistas are the ones spreading fear and informing the police of inappropriate behavior. Not unlike the russians that erected a statue in the image of a young boy that informed on his parents. I hope this atmosphere of fear ends soon. It's such a shame.
CC
Could the police hassling of jineteras be minimal off the beaten path in place like Holguin or Baracoa ? (Actually, the last post seems to say that the answer is NO - the police hassling of Jins stil persists in remote Baracoa.)
By the way, I really love the water. Hence the name "Water Boy." I love the water as much as a love the chicas. The best thing for me is a combination: una chica mojada. (I'm mean like on a beach their hair wet, just having come out of the water.)
Is the situation only that way in Habana & VEradero and the AI resorts ?
Or is it all over the island ?
Holguin is not one of the better places. The police presence is strong there. I was there a year ago and we were talking to chicas on the closed off street on the Northwest corner of central park. It turned out the police were monitoring the place and taking pictures of any chica we spoke to. I do not recommend Holguin as the best option. Santiago is much better. Of course there are the chicas are darker ther and if that is not your thing you can still try Holguin. I had some success, but many nights got nothing.
Steven Smith
10-10-07, 04:17
IMHO the police are a secondary issue to the problem with finding chicas. The real hassle comes from the eyes and ears of the loyal revolutionaries. The staunch Fidelistas are the ones spreading fear and informing the police of inappropriate behavior. Not unlike the russians that erected a statue in the image of a young boy that informed on his parents. I hope this atmosphere of fear ends soon. It's such a shame.
CCEvery time a room is rented at a casa, the owner is required to report this, with the names of those who sign into the casa (you and your chica). The local police chief decides what to do with the information. In Baracoa, each girl gets a lecture on morality. If she is a long-term girlfriend it isn't a problem. If she is seeing a variety of different men, it is. In cities like Santiago or Havana, it isn't possible for them to see the girls quickly, although they may later find the girl and address the "problem".
Every time a room is rented at a casa, the owner is required to report this, with the names of those who sign into the casa (you and your chica). The local police chief decides what to do with the information. In Baracoa, each girl gets a lecture on morality. If she is a long-term girlfriend it isn't a problem. If she is seeing a variety of different men, it is. In cities like Santiago or Havana, it isn't possible for them to see the girls quickly, although they may later find the girl and address the "problem".
Therefore you have to look for a casa with private entrance. Then the owner doesn't have to report the girl, because he can say he didn't see the girl enter.
Member #4167
10-10-07, 19:13
I have diligently researched cuba on this forum. Dont get me wrong with my criticisms of the state of tourism and mongering in Cuba. I'm a fan of Cuba and all things Cuban.
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I hardly think I qualify to give a report of distinction. I am nowhere near being an expert. The other guys on this forum who HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN to Cuba and know the current situation should be nominated. Not I.
I was merely asking a question to see if this was a general consensus of the forum members.
Dolphin2007
10-11-07, 16:55
Hi All,
I'll be going to Havana for my first time, and I'd like to stay somewhere where I can bring back a jinetera if things work out that way. Can I do this at a casa particular with a private entrance? That is my first choice. I don't really want to stay at a hotel because I've heard it might be difficult to do. Any suggestions?
Also, any clubs better than others to meet some nice women? My spanish is fair, but not fluent.
Thanks,
Dolphin
BeersTerry
10-11-07, 17:00
Whether or not the casa owner sees the person enter, he/she is still responsible for infractions. If you are discreet, they may be willing to overlook things and take a chance. If you are too obvious and they think you will get them caught, they will not.
They want to make money, but the fine is about CUC$600 versus the $30/40 they will make from you.
BeersTerry
10-11-07, 17:02
Holguin is a police training area.
Vedado Fun
10-11-07, 23:02
Hi All,
I'll be going to Havana for my first time, and I'd like to stay somewhere where I can bring back a jinetera if things work out that way. Can I do this at a casa particular with a private entrance? That is my first choice. I don't really want to stay at a hotel because I've heard it might be difficult to do. Any suggestions?
Also, any clubs better than others to meet some nice women? My spanish is fair, but not fluent.
Thanks,
DolphinPretty well any casa in Havana will allow you to take Chicas back to your room. For your own protection though it would be a good idea to ask the Chica for her ID card (Carnet) and write down the information on a piece of paper and put it away somewhere. Make sure the Chica is at least 18 years of age. If the Chica is staying overnight I would take her Carnet and tell her she can have it back in the morning. If she says no then you should probably say goodbye to her. Always keep all your things locked up whenever you have a stranger in your room. I've never had anything stolen from me by a Chica in my room but lots of guys have. Just be extremely careful and don't give anyone the opportunity to disappoint you. Don't even let a Chica be alone in your room while you go to the bathroom unless you know her well. Most of the Chicas are great to be with and will most always treat you as well as you treat them. They love to receive little gifts like perfume, chocolate, or any clothing articles. Good luck. Be very careful and have fun.
Dolphin2007
10-12-07, 20:13
Pretty well any casa in Havana will allow you to take Chicas back to your room. For your own protection though it would be a good idea to ask the Chica for her ID card (Carnet) and write down the information on a piece of paper and put it away somewhere. Make sure the Chica is at least 18 years of age. If the Chica is staying overnight I would take her Carnet and tell her she can have it back in the morning. If she says no then you should probably say goodbye to her. Always keep all your things locked up whenever you have a stranger in your room. I've never had anything stolen from me by a Chica in my room but lots of guys have. Just be extremely careful and don't give anyone the opportunity to disappoint you. Don't even let a Chica be alone in your room while you go to the bathroom unless you know her well. Most of the Chicas are great to be with and will most always treat you as well as you treat them. They love to receive little gifts like perfume, chocolate, or any clothing articles. Good luck. Be very careful and have fun.Thanks Jeweller. That advice sounds great. Do you know whether some clubs might be better than others to meet some women? I'll be in Habana Vieja. Ideally, I'd like somebody who would spend the night (not just an hour or two). Or, I'd be happy to meet somebody who would like to hang out and go to dinner, dancing, spend the night, etc. That would be ideal, but I don't know how easy that is to find. Thanks again. I'm really looking forward to my first trip to Cuba!
Brent Gort
10-13-07, 20:05
Okay,
I am going back at Christmas. I have been about six times in the past. I haven't found much new info here. If someone has been recently please make a new post. What are people paying now? Here is what I know.
Varadero- Pretty lame. I was taken to a brothel there by the auotpista gas station but I had to ask a few guys. Otherwise there is little. You may see girls at the outside bars along Primera but not often. You will need a illegial casa to take them to. Casa's are illegial in Varadero.
Havana, much better. There are girls on the street around the Havana Libre hotel. Malecon is also a good place to meet girls. I have seen them in Miramar standing on the street. Try to find one that is not too hard. Some of them are. You can ask a taxi driver for help. It is pretty cool. They will not put on the taxi meter and you will have to pay more but that is the cost of finding a girl.
You will need your own casa most likely. Sometimes they have their own. Make sure ahead of time that your casa is girl friendly. Some will take the girls Carnet (id card) and give it back to them once you give the ok that all your stuff is there.
Once I picked up a nice girl at the Copellia across form the Havana Libre and we walk to a apartment building. We knocked on the door of a apartment but no one answered. I took her into the basement stairwell of the buidling and she gave me a bbbj there which was great. At one point we heard people in the stairs. She wanted to see me the next day. I paid US$30.
A girl will try to "claim" you once she has been with you and will chase off other girls. Do not tell them where you are going or what you are doing next. They will try to set up the next meeting for the next day. I just say I have a mean wife and that discourages them.
Pinar Del Rio - I have had good luck here at local bars.
Trinidiad, you can find girls on the street and in local bars. I went to a small local bar and the bartended immediately sent for a girl without asking me.
Santiago de Cuba - this is a hell hole with really tough chicas.
You can find a "girlfriend" pretty easily in Cuba.
Good luck.
Please post some new info on prices.
Vedado Fun
10-13-07, 22:47
Thanks Jeweller. That advice sounds great. Do you know whether some clubs might be better than others to meet some women? I'll be in Habana Vieja. Ideally, I'd like somebody who would spend the night (not just an hour or two). Or, I'd be happy to meet somebody who would like to hang out and go to dinner, dancing, spend the night, etc. That would be ideal, but I don't know how easy that is to find. Thanks again. I'm really looking forward to my first trip to Cuba!I always stay in Vedado near La Rampa. I think this is the best and safest area to stay. There are lots of Police in this area which is good for your protection but it also makes it a little more difficult to meet girls. If the Police see a girl talking to a tourist they will most likely come over to the girl and ask for ID etc. You have to be very discrete. If you see and girl you like and you are able to talk to her try to get her away from the street and into a bar, shop or whatever so you don't attract the attention of the Police. Always carry a pen and paper and write down the girl's name and phone number if possible. This will come in handy if you meet a girl during the day but she's not able to see you until at night.
If will be very difficult for you to meet a girl and take her for dinner, dancing etc because most girls will not walk around the streets with a foreigner. If they are seen walking around with a foreigner there's a good chance the Police will hassle them. If you've been to Havana many times and know the girl well you can say she's your girlfriend and it will probably be all right but as a first time visitor to Havana I think it would be difficult for you to do this.
I rarely go to the Old Havana area at night. I think this area can be very dangerous at night especially if you stray far out of the tourist areas. There are a few hotels along Paseo del Prado that seem to be good areas to meet girls. A lot of guys seem to have had good luck around the Hotel Inglaterra area. There's a park area there called Parc Central where I'm sure you will meet girls if you stroll around just before and after dark. This area is just down the street from the Capitolia.
Havana was an easy place to meet girls one time but it's not like it used to be. You can still meet lots of girls but it's getting more difficult all the time. It helps to have lots of contacts there and lots of phone numbers from previous visits. On Friday and Saturday nights it's very busy and easy to meet lots of girls. During the week it's quite dead but if you're a good hunter you can still do well. Sometimes you can use the services of some guy in the street to help you meet a girl but be very careful. I would not venture far from my casa with any of these guys. If they want to introduce you to a girl have them bring the girl to you or to a meeting place that is very safe. Don't go to a strange place for a quickie with a girl. Always bring the girls back to your own casa. Do not invite any guys to your casa or even tell them your address unless it's necessary. Havana can be a very dangerous place if you are not careful. I would not recommend having a private casa all by yourself. This is illegal and could also be risky.
Havana is a fairly safe place for the most part but be very cautious at all times. Always lock away all your valuables. If you take a girl back to your casa always check her Carnet. Make sure she's 18. Write down her ID number on a piece of paper and put it away. If the girl is going to stay overnight take her Carnet and tell her she can have it back in the morning.
The casa owners are mostly all very nice people and will rarely touch any of your things. If they do steal from you they could possibly loose ther casa. A few times that I've heard of casa owners stealing from tourists it seems to have happened the day the tourist is leaving because they know there's no time for the tourist to get the Police involved to do anything about it. I think it's best to never let them know exactly what time or day you are leaving. I always say I may stay one or two more days even when I know exactly when I'm leaving.
Havana is a very interesting place to visit and can be lots of fun but it's no longer such an easy place to meet girls like it used to be. Good luck, have fun but don't be foolish. Always be very cautious.
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I always stay in Vedado near La Rampa. I think this is the best and safest area to stay. There are lots of Police in this area which is good for your protection but it also makes it a little more difficult to meet girls. If the Police see a girl talking to a tourist they will most likely come over to the girl and ask for ID etc. You have to be very discrete. If you see and girl you like and you are able to talk to her try to get her away from the street and into a bar, shop or whatever so you don't attract the attention of the Police. Always carry a pen and paper and write down the girl's name and phone number if possible. This will come in handy if you meet a girl during the day but she's not able to see you until at night.
If will be very difficult for you to meet a girl and take her for dinner, dancing etc because most girls will not walk around the streets with a foreigner. If they are seen walking around with a foreigner there's a good chance the Police will hassle them. If you've been to Havana many times and know the girl well you can say she's your girlfriend and it will probably be all right but as a first time visitor to Havana I think it would be difficult for you to do this.
I rarely go to the Old Havana area at night. I think this area can be very dangerous at night especially if you stray far out of the tourist areas. There are a few hotels along Paseo del Prado that seem to be good areas to meet girls. A lot of guys seem to have had good luck around the Hotel Inglaterra area. There's a park area there called Parc Central where I'm sure you will meet girls if you stroll around just before and after dark. This area is just down the street from the Capitolia.
Havana was an easy place to meet girls one time but it's not like it used to be. You can still meet lots of girls but it's getting more difficult all the time. It helps to have lots of contacts there and lots of phone numbers from previous visits. On Friday and Saturday nights it's very busy and easy to meet lots of girls. During the week it's quite dead but if you're a good hunter you can still do well. Sometimes you can use the services of some guy in the street to help you meet a girl but be very careful. I would not venture far from my casa with any of these guys. If they want to introduce you to a girl have them bring the girl to you or to a meeting place that is very safe. Don't go to a strange place for a quickie with a girl. Always bring the girls back to your own casa. Do not invite any guys to your casa or even tell them your address unless it's necessary. Havana can be a very dangerous place if you are not careful. I would not recommend having a private casa all by yourself. This is illegal and could also be risky.
Havana is a fairly safe place for the most part but be very cautious at all times. Always lock away all your valuables. If you take a girl back to your casa always check her Carnet. Make sure she's 18. Write down her ID number on a piece of paper and put it away. If the girl is going to stay overnight take her Carnet and tell her she can have it back in the morning.
The casa owners are mostly all very nice people and will rarely touch any of your things. If they do steal from you they could possibly loose ther casa. A few times that I've heard of casa owners stealing from tourists it seems to have happened the day the tourist is leaving because they know there's no time for the tourist to get the Police involved to do anything about it. I think it's best to never let them know exactly what time or day you are leaving. I always say I may stay one or two more days even when I know exactly when I'm leaving.
Havana is a very interesting place to visit and can be lots of fun but it's no longer such an easy place to meet girls like it used to be. Good luck, have fun but don't be foolish. Always be very cautious.
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Jeweller, thanks for the information. During daytime i have never had any security problems in havana, however at night this is different. I would not recommed walking alone. If you want to get from a to b at night it is always better to use a taxi. For you own safety i would also recommend not to get too drunk.
In general i would also say try to avoid people who approach you especially in the center. I have a cuban friend and he once told me that the people who approach you are la basura de nuestra sociedad ( the trash of our society)
havana for me is still a very good monger destination if you avoid the center or tourist areas of havana in general. I prefer the suburbs of havana like la vibora, marianao, la lisa, cerro...
Dolphin2007
10-14-07, 15:18
Thank you Jeweller and Bethold. I actually haven't made my reservations yet, so if you think that Old Havana would not be as good of a place at night as perhaps Vedado or somewhere else, perhaps I should switch. I was looking for a place with a lively night scene, so I figured that Old Havana would be best. But, I'm flexible.
Too bad about chicas not being able to hang out for stuff like dancing and dinner, etc due to the policia. I'll be going there alone, so I thought it might be fun to have some company a bit. But, I'll manage, I'm sure. Also, I'll be sure to check for age and ID with anyone who I might befriend for the evening. I was thinking of bringing a laptop computer (I have a conference in Veradaro), but I think I'm too nervous about it getting stolen to bring it. The worry won't be worth the advantage of having it with me. Also, do you carry all your cash with you? Or would a casa particular be fine to leave it?
Thanks a ton!
Jeweller, thanks for the information. During daytime i have never had any security problems in havana, however at night this is different. I would not recommed walking alone. If you want to get from a to b at night it is always better to use a taxi. For you own safety i would also recommend not to get too drunk.
In general i would also say try to avoid people who approach you especially in the center. I have a cuban friend and he once told me that the people who approach you are la basura de nuestra sociedad ( the trash of our society)
havana for me is still a very good monger destination if you avoid the center or tourist areas of havana in general. I prefer the suburbs of havana like la vibora, marianao, la lisa, cerro...
BeersTerry
10-14-07, 16:19
If staying in that area, one of the things to be careful of, are the dark streets just off the malecon. The malecon itself is o.k.....except the snatch and run opportunities at night.
Vedado Fun
10-15-07, 00:01
Thank you Jeweller and Bethold. I actually haven't made my reservations yet, so if you think that Old Havana would not be as good of a place at night as perhaps Vedado or somewhere else, perhaps I should switch. I was looking for a place with a lively night scene, so I figured that Old Havana would be best. But, I'm flexible.
Too bad about chicas not being able to hang out for stuff like dancing and dinner, etc due to the policia. I'll be going there alone, so I thought it might be fun to have some company a bit. But, I'll manage, I'm sure. Also, I'll be sure to check for age and ID with anyone who I might befriend for the evening. I was thinking of bringing a laptop computer (I have a conference in Veradaro), but I think I'm too nervous about it getting stolen to bring it. The worry won't be worth the advantage of having it with me. Also, do you carry all your cash with you? Or would a casa particular be fine to leave it?
Thanks a ton!I always bring my laptop with me and have never had any problems. I always keep it locked up in a suitcase when I'm not using it.
I also leave my extra cash locked up in a suitcase at my casa. You can leave a small amount like $30 or $40 in a pants pocket or shirt pocket in your closet at your casa. If you bring a girl back to your casa just pay her with this money so it's not necessary to open up a suitcase to get more money.
When I go out I only ever take a small amount of cash with me like $15 or $20. I don't drink so I'm always very aware of what's going on around me. Just follow my previous advice and you will be ok. Don't flash around a lot of money anywhere and don't go giving away money or other gifts in the street for no reason. Don't walk around Havana carrying a backpack or an expensive camera. There are lots of street robberies there every day.
I've been to Havana many times and I've come to the conclusion that it's very difficult to become friends with most people there. Everyone there is after your money and they have many ways of getting it from you. The people I trust the most are the casa owners that I stay with. I almost always stay at one of two places so they know me well and they treat me well. I also treat them well and give them small gifts whenever I can.
I think what Berthold says is mostly correct but I'm very used to staying in the Vedado area of Havana and it's very convient and close to the places that I need to visit. If I could go to Havana and spend a month or so I would love to meet someone like Berthold and get to know the areas he's mentioned. I have been to Cerro and Marianao but only for quick visits.
I would recommend staying in Vedado instead of Old Havana mainly because I think Vedado is a lot safer and a lot more interesting at night. You can always walk from Vedado to Old Havana along the Malecon. It will take you aprox 45 mins or more but it's a nice walk. At night it's fairly safe to walk along the Malecon because there's always lots of Police there but like Berthold says it's better to take a taxi to get from A to B.
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Member #4167
10-15-07, 05:02
Some advices if you want to hook up with a regular girl
1. You should be able to speak some spanish
2. The agegap should not be to big
3. Show some interest in the girls, take her out, buy clothes, perfume and the sex will be for free.
Good hunting,
Hasta luego, mucho suerteHey - I speak a passable spanish
When you say "Age gap not too big" what do you mean?
I Suppose 20 years is too much?
Member #4167
10-15-07, 05:38
The guy that is quoting you car prices might be ripping you off. Check out this site for price comparisons. nashtravel<dot>com
When you rent a car, it comes with a full tank, you are charged for this gas, check your bill. When the car comes back, make sure that it is empty.
I've read lots of complaints about their service, but the information posted is good.Hey BeersTerry,
You have heard alot of complaints about NAsh Travel. Can you recommend a better travel agency?
Member #4167
10-15-07, 15:10
In Cuba, they try to trick you out of your of your money.
In Brazil, they take it a gunpoint.
In Colombia, they just kill you.
Member #4167
10-15-07, 17:07
I was there a little more than ten years ago. But things have changed a little so my opinions / observations are not as valuable as those of the true Cubaphiles. Hence I don't want to be nominated into any "report of distinction. "
I'm trying to go back there this week. I almost had the ticket booked. But everything is a friggin hassle. I'd like to go to Cienfuegos for the diving and because so many people have told me "stay in the provinces. " However there is no direct flight into Cienfuegos. Unless you go thru Canada. SunAir. To me Cuba is like crack cocaine. A great high, but at what price? Everything is a pain in the ass. Sure, I can book thru Havantur, but then I have to stay in a government hotel and can't bring in chicas.
I have figured out how to get to Havana thru Cancun, no problem. I am not sure how to get to Cienfuegos. There are no puddle jumpers to Cienfuegos (airport code is CFG)
I could rent a car. But would rather have a driver. If you get into a major accident in Cuba, they KEEP you there until the claims have been paid. Also. Would rather not get stressed out driving in a strange land.
The cash situation: I have to bring all cash. I don't have a non-US credit card. I heard that the ATMS & Credit Cards suck in Cuba and they sock it to you. If I Get robbed (Very unlikely). I am pretty much screwed. No ticky no shirty. I would have to hitchhike back to Jose Marti airport. I know the drill with hitchhikers in Cuba. I hope none of you mongerers trys to pick me up and make me "pay" for my ride. But at that point, what choice would I have. I'd be a broke-ass, and would have to resort to jineterismo! (shudder)
I don't trust duales. It seems unreasonable to me that they would have a network of ATMS throughout Cuba. Anyone have any experience with them?
Can I buy euro-demoniated Travellers Cheques? Perhaps get in Cancun or the Bahamas (non-US banque)?
Can anyone recommend a good travel agency. BeersTeery said NAsh Travel has alot of complaints.
Member #4167
10-15-07, 17:10
By the way somebody in this forum was paying Bertha 1.50CUC for washing a single pair of pants. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRIGGIN MIND? I got all my clothes washed ironed and mended in Cuba for $2.
Hey - I speak a passable spanish
When you say "Age gap not too big" what do you mean?
I Suppose 20 years is too much?
You know when you want to hook up with a regular girl you have to do stuff with her like taking her out for dinner, dancing...and currently this seems to be difficult due to the police hassle en el centro, habana vieja, vedado..
During my last time in havana i could see that alot of ("couples" older guys/ young cuban girls) were stopped by the police when they were entering, leaving restaurants, nightclubs or simply walking around together and the girls had to show their id and were questioned straight away.
What i meant with the age gap is that, if it is too big it is more obvious for the police. Me i am young 25 and i did not experience this kind of troubles which i mentioned above.
In Cuba, they try to trick you out of your of your money.
In Brazil, they take it a gunpoint.
In Colombia, they just kill you.
When you are in havana in the center and you can see cops with a black uniform with dogs and headsets somebody got more than tricked.
El Cubanito
10-15-07, 17:37
When was the last time in Havana, Cuba??? Never??
El Cubanito
BeersTerry
10-15-07, 18:00
I don't use Nash Travel, I just use their site for information as they post info on car rates, flights etc.. The only time you need to worry about availabilty is August when all the Europeans are there.
Other than that, it should not be a problem to get a car.
In Havana, there are about 6 car rental agencies all within walking distance of the Malecon at Infanta. (including agencies in Hotel National, one across the street beside the Salon Rojo, one in Habana Libre and I think 4 within 1-2 blocks of Infanta.
Member #4167
10-15-07, 18:26
I was there a little more than ten years ago. But things have changed a little so my opinions / observations are not current as those of the true Cubaphiles herein (Including: BeersTerry, Cubiche, El Cubanito, (Jeweller. An up and comer) and many more folks. Hence I don't want to be nominated into any "report of distinction. "
Cuba is like crack cocaine. A great high but at a steep price.
Let me tell you of my experiences with this crack cocaine (Cerca the mid 90's)
I went to Havana. I originally didn't go there for mongering. On the plane, I asked a Cuban-American "what are the bargains in Cuba? Leather? Silver? )
He answered: "pussy is on sale. "
I got a driver with a car. $25/d. He was an electrical engineer who made more money that way (such is the way of Cuba). He was honest and reliable. OK, well maybe not so honest, more about that later.
The Hotel/Casa Particular "Discovery"
I checked into a hotel, then learned about the No Chica rule. Actually, at my first hotel, the guard let the girl into the hotel. I told the guard I was going to buy her dinner in the hotel restaurant (which I did). This was a pure P4P. She was OK. Wasn't that attractive looking. Kinda skanky but young. I wasnt allowed to bring back chicas after that.
Finally, I realised I needed a Casa PArticular, so I checked out and wheeled my suitcase along the streets of Havana. Looking for a Casa PArticular.
A very helpful fella offered to find me a Casa PArticular. He found one in which the the bed was literally made of straw. And it smelled.
I guess the horses won't be eating hay tonite.
Everyone not employed by the tourist industry is on the take in Cuba. The person who helps you says "you wait here, I'll go talk to the landlady. She won't talk to you (que mierda! ). " HE makes a deal with the casera "charge this yuma $25 and give me $5. "
I feel a little cheated, but such is the forma de la vida en Cuba. I would rather pay the rack rate and pay the jintero $5 for his consultation fee. Same money spent. I just feel less cheated.
Everything is black market in Cuba. Everything you do is illegal in Cuba.
Even after I left my suitcase behind, I was still ocassionally pestered by the jinterOs. I did get ripped off trying to buy some Cuban cigars. These were una mierda, they weren't even good as CHEAP CIGARS. But, you'll find that in any 3rd world country.
By the way I didn't see a single cat or dog on the streets of Havana. I don't think they eat them, it's just that food is in short supply. Maybe the animals die from the poisonous diesel fumes from the "buses"
After a few mishaps and several prospective Casas PArticulars later (no chicas allowed) I rented an entire apartment with kitchen, two bedrooms, et al for $25/nite. A really nice place. This was somewhere downtown. The only problem was that the landlady pretty much stipulated that I could only bring over one girl for the entire time I was there. I could only have one girlfreind.
My modus.operandi is that I prefer to find a girlfreind. I like doing things the hard way, I guess I like the illusion that this is not a P4P.
I went out to bars and niteclubs. I like them white, and thin. I was not a bad looking guy at the time. I am uglier and fatter now, 10+ yrs after. Believe it or not, it wasn't easy picking up cute girls. My spanish was pretty bad. Maybe I was too picky. However, I can get a fat skank in my own country.
One day I came back to the Casa one day and the landlady was in my casa, cooking herself a meal. This was after all HER KITCHEN. I wanted to tell her "Get the heck out, I want to bang my girlfreind. " but, she was in the middle of cooking some elaborate meal. Not cooking the meal for me. It was for her. MY girlfreind sat their and chatted with her while I fumed! Cock-blocked!
Still. I kept going back.
This driver took me all over the city. Whenever I saw a cute chica (and really it; s not flush with hotties like in Europe or the USA) I asked the driver to chat her up. (I had minimal spanish) I NEVER got a girl this way. The driver even admitted that he regretted the fact that his cubanas were being banged by Yumas. My driver was COCK-BLOCKING me. I'd point out a girl, ask him to stop, and he'd say "I know her, she's not a jintera. " He was lying. I could have gotten to know her with the written letter of introduction from my freind, the dead president "Andrew Jackson"
I went walking along the malecon. I found that not every chica is a puta. Pickins wasnt that easy. There is still competition in this city. There are italians who have plenty of money. Some of these girls have rich novias en italia. Perhaps back then, mongering was in full swing and the competition was fierce. By the way Marina Hemingway was in full swing. But I wasn't about to pay $50 per screw. I am not really into formal P4P. I like a true GFE.
I met "L". She was tall, thin and beautiful. In her early 20's. Her body, though thin, was a little bit trashed from childbirth. Her face a bit weathered. They can't afford suntan lotion there. She was equivalent in looks to a 30 yr old in the western world. Very little muscle tone. But. Very little fat. Still she was beautiful.
I fell in love with her. She gave me one of the best GFE I have had. She said she loved me. Then the scams started. "I need $90 for rent. "
I wish she had said "Listen pal, I just gave you 4 days of the best sex of your life, my charge for this is $90. " A bargain!. I would have gladly paid it. Pero, en Cuba la manera de la vida es la engana.
And I still want to go back!
I have read on this forum that it is not as good there as in the days of old. Police crackdown. Jiniteras running scared. A special prison being built just for jiniteras. Who is spreading these rumors. Do we have a US govt mole on this board?
From what I've read on this forum, the jinterOs are allowed to bother you, but not the jinteras.
The Casa PArticular situation has deteriorated. (It wasn't that good 10+ years ago) They have reduced the # of available Casa PArticulars by 50%. And if you get there. Your reservation may not be honored. Your Casa PArticular could have been rented to a fellow mongerer.
And I still want to go back!
Are there any "Cubaholics Anonymous" Meetings?
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Member #4167
10-15-07, 18:48
I don't use Nash Travel.Thanks
Can you recommend a better travel agency? Or better yet, several ?
PincheCabron
10-15-07, 19:26
I went to Havana last July and hung out with a girl for most of my stay of two weeks. No problems whatsoever with going anywhere although I kind of have a latin appearance and am in my late 30s (although I probably look younger). I actually got stopped and got asked for my carnet which I thought was funny. I don't think the cops are looking for chicas with foreigners but if the dude looks 70-80 years old then they may make an exception.
El Cubanito
10-15-07, 20:28
use Holiday Market Travel.....
There website is:
http://www.holidaymarkettravel.com/
I hope this help. I have use them in the past.
El Cubanito
Dolphin2007
10-15-07, 21:27
Ok. You guys have convinced me to find a casa in Vedado vs Old havana. Any recommendations? Care to share the places that you like?
Thanks about the laptop and $ issues. They make sense. I don't drink, and I've lived in numerous big cities where crime is an issue, so I hope to be pretty aware of things. We'll see how it all goes. This is all new to me, since I've never been there.
I always bring my laptop with me and have never had any problems. I always keep it locked up in a suitcase when I'm not using it.
I also leave my extra cash locked up in a suitcase at my casa. You can leave a small amount like $30 or $40 in a pants pocket or shirt pocket in your closet at your casa. If you bring a girl back to your casa just pay her with this money so it's not necessary to open up a suitcase to get more money.
When I go out I only ever take a small amount of cash with me like $15 or $20. I don't drink so I'm always very aware of what's going on around me. Just follow my previous advice and you will be ok. Don't flash around a lot of money anywhere and don't go giving away money or other gifts in the street for no reason. Don't walk around Havana carrying a backpack or an expensive camera. There are lots of street robberies there every day.
I've been to Havana many times and I've come to the conclusion that it's very difficult to become friends with most people there. Everyone there is after your money and they have many ways of getting it from you. The people I trust the most are the casa owners that I stay with. I almost always stay at one of two places so they know me well and they treat me well. I also treat them well and give them small gifts whenever I can.
I think what Berthold says is mostly correct but I'm very used to staying in the Vedado area of Havana and it's very convient and close to the places that I need to visit. If I could go to Havana and spend a month or so I would love to meet someone like Berthold and get to know the areas he's mentioned. I have been to Cerro and Marianao but only for quick visits.
I would recommend staying in Vedado instead of Old Havana mainly because I think Vedado is a lot safer and a lot more interesting at night. You can always walk from Vedado to Old Havana along the Malecon. It will take you aprox 45 mins or more but it's a nice walk. At night it's fairly safe to walk along the Malecon because there's always lots of Police there but like Berthold says it's better to take a taxi to get from A to B.
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When was the last time in Havana, Cuba??? Never??
El Cubanito
my last time in havana was in april and may 2006
El Cubanito
10-16-07, 13:33
There are a ton of casa in Vedado. If you are looking for quality
Casa Antigua is by far one of the best Casas in Vedado. The owners are a Husband/Wive. The Husband Horacio is a great guy, but the wife she is a little bit of an eccentric. They will allow you to bring one chica after that if you try to bring another chica Martha has Heart papatacions. Here is the website if you are interested:
http://www.casantigua.justincuba.com/
Another house is Casa Maria. This Casa does not advertise because the owner daughter is marrie dto this Rich Italian dude. There house is by far one of the better houses in Vedado. They have 2 rooms for rent. Both rooms are huge and each room hast it own private bathroom. Maria is, very, very, very cool with the chica action. Her address is Calle C between Calle 23 (la Rampa) and Calle 25. I do know not remeber the exact number of the house, but her House is right next door to the School on Calle C. If you get to the School the house is right to the left of the School as you are coming from CAlle 23.
I hope this helps you.
El Cubanito
Vedado Fun
10-16-07, 21:07
Ok. You guys have convinced me to find a casa in Vedado vs Old havana. Any recommendations? Care to share the places that you like?
Thanks about the laptop and $ issues. They make sense. I don't drink, and I've lived in numerous big cities where crime is an issue, so I hope to be pretty aware of things. We'll see how it all goes. This is all new to me, since I've never been there.I usually stay on Calle L near the Habana Libre and Hotel Colina. There are lots of casas for rent in this area. Since you are new I think it's best to just contact Pototo on Cuba Junky. He's a great guy and his business is helping tourists in Cuba. I think lots of guys on this site know him. He will set you up with a casa and even meet you at the airport if necessary. http://www.cuba-junky.com/havana/pototo.htm
Just email him and tell him you want to stay in Vedado very close to the La Rampa area and exactly what you want for a casa. You will be very happy with his service.
Dolphin2007
10-17-07, 02:25
Thanks El Cubanio. I'll want a place that is very very very cool with the chica action. I don't want to give anybody any heart palpatations. Too bad there is no contact info for Casa Maria. I don't know how to reserve such a place. How do I find out which casas might be more friendly to chicas than other ones? Vedado Fun. Do you have any recommendations that you'd be willing to share for chica-friendly casas? Thanks everyone. This is great learning for me.
There are a ton of casa in Vedado. If you are looking for quality
Casa Antigua is by far one of the best Casas in Vedado. The owners are a Husband/Wive. The Husband Horacio is a great guy, but the wife she is a little bit of an eccentric. They will allow you to bring one chica after that if you try to bring another chica Martha has Heart papatacions. Here is the website if you are interested:
http://www.casantigua.justincuba.com/
Another house is Casa Maria. This Casa does not advertise because the owner daughter is marrie dto this Rich Italian dude. There house is by far one of the better houses in Vedado. They have 2 rooms for rent. Both rooms are huge and each room hast it own private bathroom. Maria is, very, very, very cool with the chica action. Her address is Calle C between Calle 23 (la Rampa) and Calle 25. I do know not remeber the exact number of the house, but her House is right next door to the School on Calle C. If you get to the School the house is right to the left of the School as you are coming from CAlle 23.
I hope this helps you.
El Cubanito
El Rey De Pollo
10-17-07, 11:05
Vedado Fun and Berthold,
Thanks for the updates on the current do's and dont's in Havana.
Havana can be a very dangerous place if you are not careful. I would not recommend having a private casa all by yourself. This is illegal and could also be risky.I am a little curious as to what you mean? First of all, what experiences have you had or do you know of, of Havana being a very dangerous place. I am thinking that things must have changed lately as I have always felt completely safe there. Even walking the streets at night half-drunk.
And could you elaborate on your casa advice? Until now I have always stayed in hotels and taken the chicas to casas I know where you can have a room for a couple of hours or the entire night for 15 CUC. But was thinking about staying in a casa next time around, but would then definately prefer a private casa with private entrance to take chicas in unnoticed. Why is this dangerous? And what do you mean by 'private casas are illegal'. Whats your definition of a 'private casa? '
Again, great current info. Just wondering about these few lines.
TG
Vedado Fun
10-17-07, 17:07
Vedado Fun and Berthold,
Thanks for the updates on the current do's and dont's in Havana.
I am a little curious as to what you mean? First of all, what experiences have you had or do you know of, of Havana being a very dangerous place. I am thinking that things must have changed lately as I have always felt completely safe there. Even walking the streets at night half-drunk.
And could you elaborate on your casa advice? Until now I have always stayed in hotels and taken the chicas to casas I know where you can have a room for a couple of hours or the entire night for 15 CUC. But was thinking about staying in a casa next time around, but would then definately prefer a private casa with private entrance to take chicas in unnoticed. Why is this dangerous? And what do you mean by 'private casas are illegal'. Whats your definition of a 'private casa? '
Again, great current info. Just wondering about these few lines.
TGI go to Havana aprox 4 times a year. I used to think it was very safe but I no longer do. I wouldn't say it's extremely dangerous but you really have to be very careful where you hang out especially after dark. I know of many bad things that have happened in Havana but I'm not about to write details in here. Just be very careful and you shouldn't have any problems.
As far as I know it's illegal for a casa to be rented out solo. The room has to be part of the casa owner's house. There are lots of casas that have private entrances that are separate from the main casa entrance.
A private casa to me is one where you stay alone and the owners are staying elsewhere. I'm pretty sure this is illegal. I also think this is dangerous because there's no one to help you if something goes wrong. For example if you have a chica in there one night and she sees that you have lots of things that her real boyfriend and her might like to steal who's going to help you if she and her boyfriend and others come to rob you? This is a situation that could be very dangerous and has been for certain people. I never rent a casa alone for that very reason. I'm sure if you have been to Havana many times and know the area and people well that in certain cases it's probably ok to rent a casa solo.
There's no problem in taking chicas back to most casas but if you don't want to be seen just do it late at night after the casa owner has gone to bed.
When you decide to rent a casa it's best to ask all the questions to the casa owner before you rent so there are no surprises later. I always tell my casa owners that I may be bringing chicas back to my room and that I will always check the Carnet (ID Card) and write the number down especially if the chica may stay overnight. I tell the casa owner that I don't want them to hassle my chicas in any way and that if they do I will move to another casa.
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Vedado Fun and Berthold,
Thanks for the updates on the current do's and dont's in Havana.
I am a little curious as to what you mean? First of all, what experiences have you had or do you know of, of Havana being a very dangerous place. I am thinking that things must have changed lately as I have always felt completely safe there. Even walking the streets at night half-drunk.
And could you elaborate on your casa advice? Until now I have always stayed in hotels and taken the chicas to casas I know where you can have a room for a couple of hours or the entire night for 15 CUC. But was thinking about staying in a casa next time around, but would then definately prefer a private casa with private entrance to take chicas in unnoticed. Why is this dangerous? And what do you mean by 'private casas are illegal'. Whats your definition of a 'private casa? '
Again, great current info. Just wondering about these few lines.
TG
Once i almost got robbed when i left a local disco in la vibora and i noticed that 2 dudes were following me on my way back home to my casa. Luckily i lived really close to that disco and my casa owner was still sitting front of the house with his pitbull so i guess that´s why they finally did not attack me.
The second time i was out in vedado drinking with a girl when all over a sudden 2 dudes joined us and started to bother us. Well my girl had to go to the restroom and 1 of the dudes followed her. Once she got back she was like let`s go call a taxi and i was like why what happened?? Inside the taxi she told me that the dude who followed her asked her to go with me into this very dark street and they would beat me up and spilt the money etc...
In cuba if you want to rent out a casa/room you need to have a government license, but there are also people who rent out room who do not have such a license so maybe that is what vedado fun meant by private casa are illegal.
BeersTerry
10-17-07, 18:31
The issue with illegal casas is that you have no recourse. I've met quite a few people that have been robbed in illegal casas. They were on longer term stays and wanted to go cheap. They ended up getting robbed.
Once you have been robbed in an illegal casa you have no recourse. If you report it to the police, they are more interested in the illegal casa than you getting robbed.
In a legal casa, you have the recourse of complaining to the police.
Legally, casas have to be part of the owners house. They can license/rent out up to 2 rooms. They cannot legally rent out independant apartments. Some may do so if they know you or are well connected and can do it without fear. The most likely is to rent a place with an independant entrance you your rented room. Either way, the owner is responsible for any Cuban that may enter.
El Rey De Pollo
10-18-07, 12:46
In cuba if you want to rent out a casa/room you need to have a government license, but there are also people who rent out room who do not have such a license so maybe that is what vedado fun meant by private casa are illegal.Yeah okay, it is the term 'private' that had me confused. If it means 'illegal' I am aware of the dangers of staying there.
What i would want to do is have a legal case, but with a private entrance to avoid nosy carnet-happy casa owners. If anybody has recommendations for such a place, I would be happy to hear about it.
Berthold, dude, sounds like a bad experience. Good thing the chica was honest and went for you instead of the mugging and the cash. I have met exactly one million annoying Cubans who wanted my money, but none (at least yet!) who tried to take them by other means than tricks and stupid sales pitches.
El Cubanito
10-18-07, 21:03
Where did u find these illegal casas? In Chicharro, Santiago de Cuba? Not that I am racist, but are u a white guy? Not because I am racist, but Chicharro, Santiago de Cuba the only place in Cuba where I think a white tourist would get mugged and the local cops not do anything about it.
Even if you were to stay in illegal casa in Havana Vieja and let say you did get robbed and you told the cops that you got mugged. The World as we know it would end for those folks who rob you.
I do not where the f**k did u stay at dude, but wherever it was it does not sound like anything I stay at. Maybe Chicharro, Santiago de Cuba if you are a white guy.
BTW, for the records I HAVE STAYED IN ILLEGAL CASA in Havana. I stayed not out of nessesity, but for the reason that we are all here for. PUSSY, PUSSY and MORE PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The casa that I stayed on the Lady was this hot looking Model type who own a very nice casa near the airport. She was very, very hot and frankly I wanted to nail her. I ended paying for casa ($15/night), meals (Breakfast and Dinner) and lastly (she knew why I was staying) the pussy. It cost me 50 CUC/night. Did I overpay, you better believe I overpay for this pussy. But when I came that first night that she gave me her pussy it was long and behold the best fuck I hada had in a long time. I almost married this casa owner. But lucky for me I stopped thinking with little head and the circulation came back to my mind. Thank God I did the wise thing and left this casa. She did robbed me, but she did it by dangling her Ass, Tits and pussy in my face everymorning when I would get out of bed.
Berthold I do not know about your story. I have seen pint sized drunk as skunk Mexican in La casa de Musica in Havana Vieja and they did not get mugged. I have met them the next day after their intoxication. They might have had a terrible hangover, but no bruise from big black Cuban dude who wanted to snuff out his life along with his money. So I do not know about this story. It would make a great movie
El Cubanito
El Cubanito
10-18-07, 21:04
Have u ever stay in a iilegal casa in havana, cuba?
BeersTerry
10-18-07, 22:18
Well, it depends on what you mean.
I have stayed in casas of friends and family of friends where I have not paid. I have paid in casas with licenses.
I have not paid to stay in casas without licenses....though I know people who have. The last one you have to be a little more carefull of....at least have an idea of what the hell is going on.
The places that I have stayed and not paid, the neighbours were cool, did'nt care or did'nt know
Where did u find these illegal casas? In Chicharro, Santiago de Cuba? Not that I am racist, but are u a white guy? Not because I am racist, but Chicharro, Santiago de Cuba the only place in Cuba where I think a white tourist would get mugged and the local cops not do anything about it.
Even if you were to stay in illegal casa in Havana Vieja and let say you did get robbed and you told the cops that you got mugged. The World as we know it would end for those folks who rob you.
I do not where the f**k did u stay at dude, but wherever it was it does not sound like anything I stay at. Maybe Chicharro, Santiago de Cuba if you are a white guy.
BTW, for the records I HAVE STAYED IN ILLEGAL CASA in Havana. I stayed not out of nessesity, but for the reason that we are all here for. PUSSY, PUSSY and MORE PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The casa that I stayed on the Lady was this hot looking Model type who own a very nice casa near the airport. She was very, very hot and frankly I wanted to nail her. I ended paying for casa ($15/night), meals (Breakfast and Dinner) and lastly (she knew why I was staying) the pussy. It cost me 50 CUC/night. Did I overpay, you better believe I overpay for this pussy. But when I came that first night that she gave me her pussy it was long and behold the best fuck I hada had in a long time. I almost married this casa owner. But lucky for me I stopped thinking with little head and the circulation came back to my mind. Thank God I did the wise thing and left this casa. She did robbed me, but she did it by dangling her Ass, Tits and pussy in my face everymorning when I would get out of bed.
Berthold I do not know about your story. I have seen pint sized drunk as skunk Mexican in La casa de Musica in Havana Vieja and they did not get mugged. I have met them the next day after their intoxication. They might have had a terrible hangover, but no bruise from big black Cuban dude who wanted to snuff out his life along with his money. So I do not know about this story. It would make a great movie
El Cubanito
Well i guess your post is refering to another boardmember not me. So far i have not had any experiences with illegal casas in havana or cuba in general. So i guess you wanted to reply other boardmembers like vedado fun or berrysteery.
Well concerning the security in havana i just post what i have experienced so far. There are also other boardmembers who think that havana can be a dangerous place especially at night so i guess i am not totally wrong.
Well i probably will be in havana again in a couple of weeks and then i will see it for myself how the situation is like
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