Havana

[Sexmetv]

Hello guys,

Final thought: Please do not hike up the prices for chicas. There are lots of pussies available and you can always find the one for the price you want. I came to know monthly salary for a policeman or doctor (who make above average salary in Cuba) is around 800 Peso/30 CUC. So keep that in mind.
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Great report, very well written. Cuba is one of those places though that if you do learn to speak the language (even a little bit) it becomes 100 times better - in my humble opinion, GFE is not possible without this as you end up with a lot of blinking at each other (when you're not having sex) and speaking in an almost retarded fashion with lots of hand gestures with each other as you're trying to communicate ;)

Also thanks for the update on the scams (especially the one at the airport), I have always been given a receipt when I change money at the airport, although I suspect, as you pointed out, everyone has different experiences.

Regards,

[Sexmetv]

Makes me feel sick to my stomach just the thought of a girl beeing brought to me. But hey that's just me.
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Not looking to be difficult BUT, paying a girl for sex you're good with (i.e no moral outrage), but if someone (pimp, not quite a pimp, or pimp in training) BRINGS a girl for the purposes of you paying for sex it makes you "sick to your stomach" - a little strong on the language there no?

[BeersTerry]

If the chico brings the girl, he will be getting paid too.

My experience is that you always get the taxista to use the meter as they always are on the lookout to overcharge. You get no price breaks from the illegal taxis but get to ride in a dilapitated car for the same price as a legal taxi. If using an unofficial taxi, always know the price before getting in.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Not looking to be difficult BUT, paying a girl for sex you're good with (i.e no moral outrage), but if someone (pimp, not quite a pimp, or pimp in training) BRINGS a girl for the purposes of you paying for sex it makes you "sick to your stomach" - a little strong on the language there no?

Not at all strong, but exactly how I feel. If I had written a longer piece, you would have understood. Thing is, I hardly ever pay. Not becayse I'm Brad Pitt, but because I have been so many times and speak Spanish. I usually go for a month or two at a time, and I pay somewhere between 0 and 2 times per trip. And then it's not some puta I see in the street and ask to come up and fuck for 40 cuc.

Have no problem at all with people using chulos. With all the rules and hazzle in Havana, I think it's about the only way to go if you're a Cuba-newbie with limited time and limited Spanish on your hands. But me, I would feel like shit being brought some strange chica in my casa. But that's just me and my strong language.

If this is a situation that makes you feel great, cool with me.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Okay, guys, I'm a bit let down that noone has come through with help... Seeing how seldom I ask for help myself in here...

Anyway, seems like I'll be in a not too chica friendly this time around, so plan B must be a decent illegal casa nearby.

Any solid tips on illegal CP's in Vedado, Miramar, Centro or Vieja?

[EZ Pilot]

Okay, guys, I'm a bit let down that noone has come through with help... Seeing how seldom I ask for help myself in here...

Anyway, seems like I'll be in a not too chica friendly this time around, so plan B must be a decent illegal casa nearby.

Any solid tips on illegal CP's in Vedado, Miramar, Centro or Vieja?When I stayed in Havana. I stayed at 53 San Lazaro. Cheeno is the owners name, it's pretty much on the corner of the Prado and the Malecon. He'll let you bring as many/different back as you want. He has a couple of rooms upstairs, kinda small. But worked well for my stays.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Is this an illegal or legal casa?


When I stayed in Havana. I stayed at 53 San Lazaro. Cheeno is the owners name, it's pretty much on the corner of the Prado and the Malecon. He'll let you bring as many/different back as you want. He has a couple of rooms upstairs, kinda small. But worked well for my stays.

[EZ Pilot]

Is this an illegal or legal casa? He does have the casa symbol on the door. But extremely user friendly. The owner will also introduce you to girls.

[Baudelairemod]

He does have the casa symbol on the door. But extremely user friendly. The owner will also introduce you to girls.Hi EZ. Does the casa's owner perhaps have a mail address? I would be interested too in that casa but for the beginning of April.

Thanks.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Thanks, sounds like a good place to keep as a backup. Though not sure you should be posting the exact address too much in public forums - that is if you dont want to return one day to find the casa sign gone and the owner behind bars...

But thanks a lot...


He does have the casa symbol on the door. But extremely user friendly. The owner will also introduce you to girls.

[Admin]

Thanks, sounds like a good place to keep as a backup. Though not sure you should be posting the exact address too much in public forums - that is if you dont want to return one day to find the casa sign gone and the owner behind bars...

But thanks a lot...Just to put this into perspective:

Ask yourself this question: Do you really think that the incredibly poor Cuban Government will use it's very limited number of computers and very limited number of internet connections and it's very limited number of English-speaking employees to peruse the HUGE internet world looking for info that might indicate that there are some Cuban chicas who will accept money to be fucked?

Nobody is going to get anyone in trouble by posting the address of a legally registered casa.

Thanks,

Jackson

[El Rey De Pollo]

99% sure you are right, Jackson, but I have heard and seen crazier and more paranoid things than that happen in Cuba.

I am here now, so will get back on this if I see any paranoia-records broken while here :-)


Just to put this into perspective:

Ask yourself this question: Do you really think that the incredibly poor Cuban Government will use it's very limited number of computers and very limited number of internet connections and it's very limited number of English-speaking employees to peruse the HUGE internet world looking for info that might indicate that there are some Cuban chicas who will accept money to be fucked?

Nobody is going to get anyone in trouble by posting the address of a legally registered casa.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Artful]

I agree with TG. This sort of stuff is more than possible in Cuba and people shouldn't be posting casa addressess in public forums, keep it to private messages please.


99% sure you are right, Jackson, but I have heard and seen crazier and more paranoid things than that happen in Cuba.

I am here now, so will get back on this if I see any paranoia-records broken while here :-)

[Member #3435]

Just to put this into perspective:

Ask yourself this question: Do you really think that the incredibly poor Cuban Government will use it's very limited number of computers and very limited number of internet connections and it's very limited number of English-speaking employees to peruse the HUGE internet world looking for info that might indicate that there are some Cuban chicas who will accept money to be fucked?

Nobody is going to get anyone in trouble by posting the address of a legally registered casa.

Thanks,

Jackson

Jackson:

Granted, posting the address of a legal casa will not jeopordize any one but; even though Cuba is certifiably one of the poorest countries on the planet, I wouldn't assume that the government and its numberless watchers lack any funds or abilities.
For reference; check out the film "The Lives of Others", which documents life under communism in the former East Germany.
Respectfully, Schwmm

[Chicochulo]

Every letter sent to Cuba is open and read. Access to the internet is controlled and monitored. Don't kid yourself, the cuban informaticas that surf the web are definitely turning in information to their Jefes. Ratting out neighbors is a national pastime. Please, PM your addresses and be careful with your contacts.

[Kalifornication]

Every letter sent to Cuba is open and read. Access to the internet is controlled and monitored. Don't kid yourself, the cuban informaticas that surf the web are definitely turning in information to their Jefes. Ratting out neighbors is a national pastime. Please, PM your addresses and be careful with your contacts.

I happen to be one of those pinko communist liberals that [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you reactionary right wing gusanos off, but, with that said, after traveling to Cuba 5 times this year visiting my good (and I mean GOOD girl) who happens to study at UCI in la habana, I will tell you this, ... she has been personally pulled aside by school administrators and warned about her relationship with me (foreigner). It has been confirmed that they listen to our conversations over the telephone and monitor internet. She told me, they do not care that I am a professed SOCIALIST, what matters more is that I am a foreigner and an American, and that I am wooing their soon to be software engineer.

[El Cubanito]

I happen to be one of those pinko communist liberals that [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you reactionary right wing gusanos off, but, with that said, after traveling to Cuba 5 times this year visiting my good (and I mean GOOD girl) who happens to study at UCI in la habana, I will tell you this, ... she has been personally pulled aside by school administrators and warned about her relationship with me (foreigner). It has been confirmed that they listen to our conversations over the telephone and monitor internet. She told me, they do not care that I am a professed SOCIALIST, what matters more is that I am a foreigner and an American, and that I am wooing their soon to be software engineer.

Daren,

Is not lying. When you go thru Immigration in Cuba and say you are dating a UCI Girl and see what happens to your A#s.

These girls from UCI is the equivalent of a MIT Education. They proctect these chicks.

Hell, I went over there to see my girl and they took all of my info down in the University.

[BeersTerry]

Cubans themselves are paranoid about this and would flip to find where you posted their addresss, info etc.


I also dated a nice Cuban girl and had her mother freak on me.

[El Grande]

Just to put this into perspective:

Ask yourself this question: Do you really think that the incredibly poor Cuban Government will use it's very limited number of computers and very limited number of internet connections and it's very limited number of English-speaking employees to peruse the HUGE internet world looking for info that might indicate that there are some Cuban chicas who will accept money to be fucked?

Nobody is going to get anyone in trouble by posting the address of a legally registered casa.

Thanks,

Jackson

The internet isn't as huge if you are just monitoring the 3-4 english boards like thisone...

[El Rey De Pollo]

Why do they have to know?

[QUOTE=El Cubanito]When you go thru Immigration in Cuba and say you are dating a UCI Girl and see what happens to your A#s.QUOTE]

[Americano573]

Let me add my two cents to this whole posting addresses of casa owners etc i the internet let me say do not do it!!! while jackson is correct that the cuban government does not polivce the internet due to lack of resources etc. the cubans who have access to the internet the doctors lawyers radio and tv personalites they do vist various pages i the internet and alot of theses folk are mebers of the CDR (COMITE DE DEFENSA DE LA REVOLUCION) seasoned cuban vetreans know what i am talking about let me put it mor e plainnly these people are snitches. They will report their findings to the auhorities that is chicas (fotos) that they know and also addresses of the casa owners you could bring great distress to the aforementioned as they will be accused of advertising in a sex forum and promoting prostitution in cuba! THIS IS NOT PARANIOA THIS IS REAL!! DONT DO IT!. i have had numerous requests asking me to send my casa contacts through the private messaging function her on this board and even that i wont do. Indopendent casas that dont register girls and casa owners that do not stress you is so hard to find these days i wont ru the risk of having my favoirte casa s messed up with overzaealous mongers who dont know how to act i made the mistake of divulging info once and it cost me amd the casa owner dearly wont be doing that again. The next thing is if you have a UCI GIRL (UNIVERSIDAD DE CIENCIAS Y INFORMATICAS) do not go up to her school to pick her up meet her in havana or along the road leading to UCI as el cubanito said you mess with these girls and its like you are messing with the daughters of the revolution these girls are mainly cream of the crop students from the oriente las tunas,bayamo,holguin,santiago guantanamo even as far away as baracoa the university was built by fidel especially for the se students itis almost like a resort i have only been as far as the main gate but i have many photos fo the place (yes i have chicas there) it is like a resort minus the beach complete with pool and sporting facilites.

[Americano573]

did anyone ver notice how they built the university in the middle of nowhere ( very far from the tourist enclaves) but super close to the police academy! is that coincidence or design? i will let you decide. my first encoUnter with UCI was a shocker i went there to surprise a chica that i had been corresponding with via the internet (oh! by the way if you have a uci girl you woont have to worry about huge phone bills as these chicas have frequent access to the internet the 4th and 5th year students also have computers in their rooms) i had rented a car and drove to the university took me about 45 minutes but iahd onl just arrived from the states that day so i was extremely tired so i decided to get to the university early before she got out of class and got there at 4pm hse got out of class at 6pm the plan was to call her from a phone booth and then tell her i was outside of her school gates needless to say i got to the school gate and parked in an area that looked like a parking lot as two other (non tourist ) cars were parked there i fell asleep but set my alarm to wake me at 5 :30pm as she got out of class at 6pm and would head straight to her room and i would be able to call her there at leas t so i thought! needless to say at 5:20 pm i was awakened by a knock at the side of the car window by school security guards who demanded to see my licence and passport i gave them the licence but no passport ( i refuse to walk with it) the y took all my details and asked me who i was there to see i did not lie i told them trust me lyinmg would have been real bad! plus i was not doing anything wrong at least so i thought. they called the chica in her room she came down saw e and was vry happy to see me but shocked the y the started to interrogate her and she told them i was a family friend i speak spanish but during the entire ordeal i never let on that i spoke spanish so i got to overhear the entire interrogation it was scary! he then asked me who i was and i corraborated my girls story saying i was a family friend pheeew!!!!! i then told my girl i was going to leave and she told me to come back 2 hours later nad pick her uo on a spot along the road it would have been 8 pm by then and dark ( no street lights ) AND THE SECURITY GUARDS WOULD HAVE CHANGED SHIFTS BY THEN . I did just that and finally we got the chance to meet later she told me that UCI STUDENTS ARE FORBIDEN TO DATE FORIEGNERS (EXTRANJEROS) its a school rule!! and the girls will be expelled. word of wisdom to dareneque stop swearing fr your uci girl i wount tell you that she is not girl but these uci girls maintain relationships with cubanos in the university not saying thata your girl does that but just keep your guard up dont spoil her what too much money either just a word of advice

[El Rey De Pollo]

While I agree that posting certain casa addresses in public is obviously a bad idea, I for one will share my knowledge by PM to users I know or who have a record of posting in here.

I guess I am one of the few people with that policy seeing that my own request for info on several places, resultet in one single PM.

But without sharing, we might as well shut down these boards.


i have had numerous requests asking me to send my casa contacts through the private messaging function her on this board and even that i wont do. Indopendent casas that dont register girls and casa owners that do not stress you is so hard to find these days i wont ru the risk of having my favoirte casa s messed up with overzaealous mongers who dont know how to act i made the mistake of divulging info once and it cost me amd the casa owner dearly wont be doing that again.

[BeersTerry]

While many of us would like to be generous, the problem is that there are some people that don't understand discretion.....which in the end, costs us all.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Absolutely. Which is why I would never give away a favourite casa to anyone without some sort of 'track-record'.


While many of us would like to be generous, the problem is that there are some people that don't understand discretion.....which in the end, costs us all.

[El Chico]

did anyone ver notice how they built the university in the middle of nowhere ...... school security guards who demanded to see my licence and passport i gave them the licence but no passportUCI is where the old Lourdes Russian base use to be. When the Russians stopped paying the rent 6 years ago they converted it into a school ...very cuban way of saying we don't need your money.

I can't believe you would give your documents to a security guard! I know its Cuba, but you don't have to be intimidated by any authority figure. I would of just pretended I didn't speak Spanish or just driven away. You must have known the girl would get into trouble, what's the worse that could happen if you gave a false name or just took off? Even if they tracked you down, which I highly doubt, just say you pulled off the highway to rest.

[Kalifornication]

did anyone ver notice how they built the university in the middle of nowhere ( very far from the tourist enclaves) but super close to the police academy! is that coincidence or design? i will let you decide. my first encoUnter with UCI was a shocker i went there to surprise a chica that i had been corresponding with via the internet (oh! by the way if you have a uci girl you woont have to worry about huge phone bills as these chicas have frequent access to the internet the 4th and 5th year students also have computers in their rooms) i had rented a car and drove to the university took me about 45 minutes but iahd onl just arrived from the states that day so i was extremely tired so i decided to get to the university early before she got out of class and got there at 4pm hse got out of class at 6pm the plan was to call her from a phone booth and then tell her i was outside of her school gates needless to say i got to the school gate and parked in an area that looked like a parking lot as two other (non tourist ) cars were parked there i fell asleep but set my alarm to wake me at 5 :30pm as she got out of class at 6pm and would head straight to her room and i would be able to call her there at leas t so i thought! needless to say at 5:20 pm i was awakened by a knock at the side of the car window by school security guards who demanded to see my licence and passport i gave them the licence but no passport ( i refuse to walk with it) the y took all my details and asked me who i was there to see i did not lie i told them trust me lyinmg would have been real bad! plus i was not doing anything wrong at least so i thought. they called the chica in her room she came down saw e and was vry happy to see me but shocked the y the started to interrogate her and she told them i was a family friend i speak spanish but during the entire ordeal i never let on that i spoke spanish so i got to overhear the entire interrogation it was scary! he then asked me who i was and i corraborated my girls story saying i was a family friend pheeew!!!!! i then told my girl i was going to leave and she told me to come back 2 hours later nad pick her uo on a spot along the road it would have been 8 pm by then and dark ( no street lights ) AND THE SECURITY GUARDS WOULD HAVE CHANGED SHIFTS BY THEN . I did just that and finally we got the chance to meet later she told me that UCI STUDENTS ARE FORBIDEN TO DATE FORIEGNERS (EXTRANJEROS) its a school rule!! and the girls will be expelled. word of wisdom to dareneque stop swearing fr your uci girl i wount tell you that she is not girl but these uci girls maintain relationships with cubanos in the university not saying thata your girl does that but just keep your guard up dont spoil her what too much money either just a word of advice

Americano,

Being the good SOCIALIST that I am, I do not mind sharing. "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" yes?

I am not so niave either. I cannot change reality on the ground, ... either she has a Cuban Novio or she does not, ... my knowing she does might not make a differnce, and my not knowing certainly makes no difference (ignorance is indeed bliss).

To be honest, though, I do trust her.

She'll just have to prove me wrong I suppose.

Thank you for the heads-up, ... I do appreciate it.

[Americano573]

uci is where the old lourdes russian base use to be. when the russians stopped paying the rent 6 years ago they converted it into a school ...very cuban way of saying we don't need your money.

i can't believe you would give your documents to a security guard! i know its cuba, but you don't have to be intimidated by any authority figure. i would of just pretended i didn't speak spanish or just driven away. you must have known the girl would get into trouble, what's the worse that could happen if you gave a false name or just took off? even if they tracked you down, which i highly doubt, just say you pulled off the highway to rest.

el chico trust me they do track you down! all he had t do was memorize the licenece plte and i would have been toast. i have seen the track down guys who left without paying for casas or sed cunterfeit money to pay for meals car rental etc. this guy could have made up any story and they would have got me! dont underestimate cuba they will get you in the end at the airport trust me on this! let me tell you another quick story i was on my way from the oriente and i blew by a punto de control (police check point on highway) so did another cuban driver and a tourist driver as well. i realized what i did stopped and reversed almost 300 yards to go back there the cop asked me why i did not slow down as i approached the check point i told him i did not see it as it was very dark (the truth) he said o.k thanks for coming back and waved me on my way needless to say they caught the other two speedsters down the road i guess he radioed ahead and they got them. we are not above the law irrespctive of whatever country and i understimate no one

[Kalifornication]

el chico trust me they do track you down! all he had t do was memorize the licenece plte and i would have been toast. i have seen the track down guys who left without paying for casas or sed cunterfeit money to pay for meals car rental etc. this guy could have made up any story and they would have got me! dont underestimate cuba they will get you in the end at the airport trust me on this! let me tell you another quick story i was on my way from the oriente and i blew by a punto de control (police check point on highway) so did another cuban driver and a tourist driver as well. i realized what i did stopped and reversed almost 300 yards to go back there the cop asked me why i did not slow down as i approached the check point i told him i did not see it as it was very dark (the truth) he said o.k thanks for coming back and waved me on my way needless to say they caught the other two speedsters down the road i guess he radioed ahead and they got them. we are not above the law irrespctive of whatever country and i understimate no one

i agree americano, respect is what is imprtant!

[Americano573]

[QUOTE=Darenesq0767]Americano,

Being the good SOCIALIST that I am, I do not mind sharing. "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" yes?

I am not so niave either. I cannot change reality on the ground, ... either she has a Cuban Novio or she does not, ... my knowing she does might not make a differnce, and my not knowing certainly makes no difference (ignorance is indeed bliss).

To be honest, though, I do trust her.

She'll just have to prove me wrong I suppose.
Darenesque you are spot on with your assessment of the situation i made my comments because too many guys fool themselves or should i say get fooled by theses chicas and the horrors stories well... they really are horror stories! I know of alot of success stories too and there are great girls in cuba you just have to look hard enough to find them.anyway looks like you might have just found yourself a winner but until then maintain that open mind kudos for you sir.

Thank you for the heads-up, ... I do appreciate it.[/QUD

[Americano573]

While I agree that posting certain casa addresses in public is obviously a bad idea, I for one will share my knowledge by PM to users I know or who have a record of posting in here.

I guess I am one of the few people with that policy seeing that my own request for info on several places, resultet in one single PM.

But without sharing, we might as well shut down these boards.
Travelling Gring if you need a havana casa let me know o.k

[Americano573]

while many of us would like to be generous, the problem is that there are some people that don't understand discretion.....which in the end, costs us all.
beersterry i could not agree with you more! i hooked up a guy on this board with a casa and he was bringing major drama to the casa owner, he was bringing in hard core pros **** girls etc! it so happened he refused to pay a girl (hard core pro) claiming bad service and she caused quite a stink! bringing alot of unwanted attention to the casa owner thats why i am not exactly excited sharing casa information with just anybody

[El Chico]

El Chico trust me they do track you down! All he had t do was memorize the licenece plte and I would have been toast. I have seen the track down guys who left without paying for casas or sed cunterfeit money to pay for meals car rental etc. I still know you are being overly paranoid. There is a difference between breaking the law and trying to get away with it and getting a girl in trouble because a lowly secuity guard wants your information. Even if you drove away and the security guard bothered to report it to the police, what's he going to say. "There was a car with tourist plates in the parking lot and he drove away" The police wouldn't waste their time to follow up and in the end you did nothing illegal. They're not going to bother a foreigner for something petty like that.

[Americano573]

I still know you are being overly paranoid. There is a difference between breaking the law and trying to get away with it and getting a girl in trouble because a lowly secuity guard wants your information. Even if you drove away and the security guard bothered to report it to the police, what's he going to say. "There was a car with tourist plates in the parking lot and he drove away" The police wouldn't waste their time to follow up and in the end you did nothing illegal. They're not going to bother a foreigner for something petty like that.
This is the exact same reason why i dont normally post any reports or give advice or share casa information in the forum because there is always someone who thinks he knows more is more informed or knows more than anybody else. you are clearly entitled to your opinion i was just stating my experiences and giving my opinion so if you feel the need to break the law or get away with breaking the law feel free to do so. thats the same type of attitude why many a foreigener sit there languishing in cuban prisons because they thought they knew more than everybody else and thought they could break the law or should i say get away with breking the law i have no sympathyfor them. For the rest of the cuban veterans or newbies planning to go to cuba to meet a UCI student/chica meet her else where other than meeting her at UCI

[PincheCabron]

Folks time to let this thread die. It's lost any iota of usefullness or interest about 3 or 4 posts ago. If anything we're just drawing the unwanted attention we've all been warning about.

[El Grande]

Folks time to let this thread die. It's lost any iota of usefullness or interest about 3 or 4 posts ago. If anything we're just drawing the unwanted attention we've all been warning about.

I second that!

[Member #4366]

Cuba has now definitely dropped out of my top-10 list of favourite mongering countries. Five years ago, I already had serious doubts whether it was still worth the trip and after my latest visit in December, I’m fairly sure that I won’t go there again. My main reason to visit Cuba in the past was the availability of non-professional girls for fun and GFE sex. This could just compensate for the bad food, cheating, jineteros, non-functioning facilities and so on. However, I found that it is now almost impossible to get a ‘normal’ girl. There are probably still a lot of them around in small towns and remote suburbs but then you definitely need to rent a car (which I don’t want to drive in Cuba) and spend considerable time and effort. There is still a lot of cheap pussy around but these girls are at best semi pros – not much different from what can be found in other Latin American countries. So, there is really no good reason to go to Cuba anymore unless you like the country for other reasons than mongering. I’m afraid I don’t.

Anyway, I spent about 4 weeks on the damn island, visiting several places: Havana, Camaguey, Las Tunas, Bayamo, Santiago and Baracoa. My recent comments on Havana (only mentioning the mongering spots) follow below. Please look in the appropriate sections for comments on the other towns. Any questions are of course welcome.

On this trip, I spent most of my time in Havana. Perhaps I shouldn’t have as I never really liked the place. The girls were always more business-like in the past when compared to the province and I found them now more so than ever.

La Rampa is a good place to find a semi-pro, especially the stretch between the Malecon and La Coppelia. Fellow mongers have reported on this already and I don’t have many new facts to add. The Rampita cafeteria is a guaranteed pick-up place but the girls are semi-pros at best. Most of them are not even that good looking and each and every one has her own chulo that will happily spend your cash. There are lots of cops around as well but most girls buy them off. One evening, I noticed a girl being apprehend by two cops and I asked ‘my’ girlfriend of the moment what was going on. ‘She didn’t give them any money’, she answered.

There are many gorgeous ‘normal’ girls walking all day and night in La Rampa, for example nurses from the nearby hospital and university students (University of Habana). However, they now avoid eye contact with foreigners (how different this was in the past!). Perhaps they are afraid or perhaps they are just jaded with seeing yet another tourist. Who can say? It is just no fun anymore.

Other good pick-up places in La Rampa for (semi) pros are the clubs and dancings roughly between Calles K and O. Girls hang in front of these places, waiting for guys to invite them in, buy them a drink and then take them out again pronto to an illegal casa. By the way, illegal casas abound in Vedado and are not hard to find. Any of these girls know at least a few. I originally stayed in one but decided to move to a legal one as the risk of having my money stolen was too big. Of course, the chicas won’t come with you to a legal casa as they want to avoid being registered.

I also spent some time mongering in Centro Havana. The North end of El Prado between the open-air cafeteria (of which I don’t remember the name) and the ‘Oasis’ pub, is the hunting ground of a whole bunch of professionals. Some of them are really gorgeous. They were openly hooking in the street already from 2 p.m. I tried a few of them as they looked so damn good. But their attitude really sucked: demanding payment in advance (which I refused of course), re-negotiating an agreed-upon price, asking more money for anything they consider extra, “porque no leche, mi amor” after 2 minutes fucking, and so on. I’m afraid that the girls in this area have been completely spoiled by guys that never read this forum.

The streets in Centro close to Prado are also good places to find chicas. I walked around there and regularly heard inviting hisses from girls sitting in doorways. No great quality though and probably also professionals.

[BeersTerry]

I cannot disagree with that assessment but I did get lucky when walking past Oasis, I let a chica standing in a doorway clean my pork sword for $20 CUC. She was cute but her place was disgusting.

That Sophia Cafe you talk about is where all the pros and chulos go hunting for extranjeros.

There are street parties that happen around the end of La Rampa and out (just east of) Habana Cafe. There is a even a semi cheap, short term (illegal) stabbin' cabin there.

[Scratch Paper]

I was living in the Cayman Islands and was about to leave for good, and realized that I never got a chance to go to Cuba. Heard a lot of good things from people on Grand Cayman about the bevy of beauties, etc. in Cuba.

So this was indeed a last minute trip, for a measly 2 days. I went with a "veteran" and he kinda showed me the ropes.

The potential for the trip to have been a memorable one was definetly there.

The first mistake was forgetting to change my money at the airport. My pal forgot to remind me and he said that he would lend me which he did. But not having your own money made it somewhat not as enjoyable.

There are definetly 10's there. And the rates are relatively cheap. The first girl that came over our Casa was decent looking but not GFE. I ended up seeing her despite my intuition, but next time I will know that 5 dollars for their taxi back home is way better than paying more for a girl you aren't really attracted to.

When we went to the club I found a 8.5 and she was making out with me in a secluded area and was GFE. She came over to our place(a Casa which was owned by an olympic gold medalist, so apparently no one would mess with her? she did not have to be registered) and I did the deed. She spent the night for 60 CUC. I tried calling her later to come back the next day but she was not there, her mother answered.

My pal said almost every/any girl you see could be available. If I could of hooked up with some of the hotter girls I saw even if they were less GFE, that still would of been worth it in my opinion.

The main problem is communication. If you have a guide that can interpret for you-- that will only make the trip that much more enjoyable.

The girls are definetly hot; for some reason the pictures people have here are not indicative of the quality.

If you somewhat enjoy the thrill of the hunt-- Cuba is not a bad place to go, especially if you are nearby like I was; a 45 minute flight from the Cayman Islands.

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[La Isla]

Bubanero
I imagine if you were there 5 years ago, you were there previous to that also. If you were in Cuba in the days before 2002, especially nimerous times, then YES, Cuba is a letdown. Honestly, I thought the govt would have let up by now, but sadly its not the case.
Cuba was a true Fantasy Island in the 90's, and even up to late 2002. Then, everything changed. The girls are still there, they're just hiding. You need to have good contacts and have had developed a network. I still go twice a year at least because I have to, so I'm good, but otherwise, I wouldn't go back just for mongering either. There are far better places ....



Cuba has now definitely dropped out of my top-10 list of favourite mongering countries. Five years ago, I already had serious doubts whether it was still worth the trip and after my latest visit in December, I’m fairly sure that I won’t go there again. My main reason to visit Cuba in the past was the availability of non-professional girls for fun and GFE sex. This could just compensate for the bad food, cheating, jineteros, non-functioning facilities and so on. However, I found that it is now almost impossible to get a ‘normal’ girl. There are probably still a lot of them around in small towns and remote suburbs but then you definitely need to rent a car (which I don’t want to drive in Cuba) and spend considerable time and effort. There is still a lot of cheap pussy around but these girls are at best semi pros – not much different from what can be found in other Latin American countries. So, there is really no good reason to go to Cuba anymore unless you like the country for other reasons than mongering. I’m afraid I don’t.

Anyway, I spent about 4 weeks on the damn island, visiting several places: Havana, Camaguey, Las Tunas, Bayamo, Santiago and Baracoa. My recent comments on Havana (only mentioning the mongering spots) follow below. Please look in the appropriate sections for comments on the other towns. Any questions are of course welcome.

On this trip, I spent most of my time in Havana. Perhaps I shouldn’t have as I never really liked the place. The girls were always more business-like in the past when compared to the province and I found them now more so than ever.

La Rampa is a good place to find a semi-pro, especially the stretch between the Malecon and La Coppelia. Fellow mongers have reported on this already and I don’t have many new facts to add. The Rampita cafeteria is a guaranteed pick-up place but the girls are semi-pros at best. Most of them are not even that good looking and each and every one has her own chulo that will happily spend your cash. There are lots of cops around as well but most girls buy them off. One evening, I noticed a girl being apprehend by two cops and I asked ‘my’ girlfriend of the moment what was going on. ‘She didn’t give them any money’, she answered.

There are many gorgeous ‘normal’ girls walking all day and night in La Rampa, for example nurses from the nearby hospital and university students (University of Habana). However, they now avoid eye contact with foreigners (how different this was in the past!). Perhaps they are afraid or perhaps they are just jaded with seeing yet another tourist. Who can say? It is just no fun anymore.

Other good pick-up places in La Rampa for (semi) pros are the clubs and dancings roughly between Calles K and O. Girls hang in front of these places, waiting for guys to invite them in, buy them a drink and then take them out again pronto to an illegal casa. By the way, illegal casas abound in Vedado and are not hard to find. Any of these girls know at least a few. I originally stayed in one but decided to move to a legal one as the risk of having my money stolen was too big. Of course, the chicas won’t come with you to a legal casa as they want to avoid being registered.

I also spent some time mongering in Centro Havana. The North end of El Prado between the open-air cafeteria (of which I don’t remember the name) and the ‘Oasis’ pub, is the hunting ground of a whole bunch of professionals. Some of them are really gorgeous. They were openly hooking in the street already from 2 p.m. I tried a few of them as they looked so damn good. But their attitude really sucked: demanding payment in advance (which I refused of course), re-negotiating an agreed-upon price, asking more money for anything they consider extra, “porque no leche, mi amor” after 2 minutes fucking, and so on. I’m afraid that the girls in this area have been completely spoiled by guys that never read this forum.

The streets in Centro close to Prado are also good places to find chicas. I walked around there and regularly heard inviting hisses from girls sitting in doorways. No great quality though and probably also professionals.

[Member #4366]

La Isla,
Yes, I've been to Cuba in the late nineties - many times. But after 1998, the situation deteriorated every year. My visits got less frequent and, after 2003, I did not return at all - until last December. Unfortunately, the situation only got worse. I knew that of course from reading this forum but I just had to see for myself once more. Back in the old days, it was absolutely the best place to be and I don't think that any place will ever come close to that level.

[El Chico]

Bubanero,

The girls are still there, they're just hiding. You need to have good contacts and have had developed a network. I still go twice a year at least because I have to, so I'm good, but otherwise, I wouldn't go back just for mongering either. There are far better places ....The key to finding the quality GFE hotties is networking with the girls you meet. First you have to find a non/semi-pro and tell her that your looking for normal girls and you'll give her a commission for even one you like ($10). She'll go back to her barrio and talk to the girls she knows. If she finds one you think is a normal girl looking for some extra cash, ask her to do the same and soon you'll be meeting girls who haven't even been with a foreigner before.

Of course the key is to find the first semi-normal girl and not someone who's just going to call all her pro friends from the disco. This would be more of a challenge for someone in Cuba on a short stay and/or who doesn't speak Spanish.

[Toronto]

I have booked my trip and will be in town from Jan 18 to 25 for my first trip to Cuba. I have read about 20+ pages so far and plan to read more. What I gather is to avoid the clubs/hard core overpriced pros and try my luck with non/semi-pros. But for someone like myself with limited Spanish and no prior Cuba experience, best bet seems to be to enlist the help of a casa owner and/or guide. My main reason for going is actually for regular tourist stuff so even if I have no luck with chicas it won't be a total letdown but of course I would like some success. So if anyone has any recommendation for a guide or in general I would appreciate it. I'll be sure to post a report upon return even if I have no success. Thanks.

[Scratch Paper]

I have booked my trip and will be in town from Jan 18 to 25 for my first trip to Cuba. I have read about 20+ pages so far and plan to read more. What I gather is to avoid the clubs/hard core overpriced pros and try my luck with non/semi-pros. But for someone like myself with limited Spanish and no prior Cuba experience, best bet seems to be to enlist the help of a casa owner and/or guide. My main reason for going is actually for regular tourist stuff so even if I have no luck with chicas it won't be a total letdown but of course I would like some success. So if anyone has any recommendation for a guide or in general I would appreciate it. I'll be sure to post a report upon return even if I have no success. Thanks. I posted about my recent trip below. I have the contact number of the 8. 5 GFE girl;

Diana = 2652522; this is her home number.

This number 052847328 is of the hot "10" blonde. Never got a chance to see her; didn't answer the phone. I don't think it was a fake number, but maybe incoming calls costs them to answer? It is worth a try. Maybe have someone text in spanish is better than calling if it was a cell phone.

Good luck

[Three Holes]

in december i had a total of 12 days in cuba, some havana, some trinidad and some varadero. i only had 2 nights mongering in havana but i will say both other areas are well worth visiting as a tourist.

night 1

i stayed at occidental hotel in miramar and decided to head out around 9pm. took a taxi from in front of the hotel as i figured it would be safer and was lucky to get an english speaking driver, my spanish is zero. told him i was on a pussy prowl and he spent the next 10 minutes telling me why he was the perfect guide/bodyguard except he was about 5 ft tall. we agreed to 15 cuc an hour for as long as i wanted him.

it was a bit early so we did a quick tour of the malecon, too early for many girls but there were a few, havana club, salon rojo, and a few other clubs in verdado. too early.

then we went to delirio habanero about 10: 30. after paying 15 cuc door charge i walked in there were 3 waiters, 2 barmen, 1 other customers and about 30 girls, i decided to stay a while.

on the way there i had told the driver at some stage i wanted to have a beautiful black girl, i guess he told someone at the club because just after the waitress served my cuba libre she ushered up a beautiful 6ft black girl who walked like a model only sexier and with more flesh and curves. yum, i was hooked.

her name is odalkis and she spoke almost no english. no problem, by the time we had finished our drink we had a deal. she had asked for 100 cuc for all night but the driver had told me don’t pay more than 70 so that’s what we agreed to. she suggested we go to her house which was nearby but i wasn’t comfortable with that for my first mongering experience in cuba so we took my taxi back to the hotel.

on the way back the driver told me he had to arrange with hotel security to get the girl in which he did but it cost me another 40 cuc for the security guy who brought her up to my room separately.

we got a drink, switched the tv to a music channel and i proceeded to peel her before the shower and wow, other than a scar and a couple of birth marks under her tits she was pretty much what i hoped for. nice dds, round ass and a neatly trimmed pussy.

had a pleasant session with her, cbj, fs and i got to finger and spread that black and pink pussy. she wasn’t the most enthusiastic i’ve had so when security tapped on the door 2 hours later i let her go even though i had arranged all night with her. they all seem to expect a gift of some kind too, usually the used bottle of cologne / after shave you are using. i didn’t give it just a t-shirt i didn’t have much use for.

night 2

left the hotel close to midnight and with a new driver/minder we headed off in his beat up lada to a club i had heard about called rio club. 5 cuc at the door and it was pumping with maybe 50 guys and 100 women, i’m staying a while. had a few drinks while smiling, chatting (my driver was translating) and being grabbed at by girls, it was hell, you seriously have to push some away.

i found one i wanted but she was too pushy and i wasn’t ready to leave yet so she wandered off and found someone else. then this cute little hard body latina looking cutie wandered past and i grabbed her.

she was great, she figured i wanted her firm ass probably from the way i kept looking at it and drooling, so while we were standing, drinking and bopping around she kept putting my hand on it under her short skirt and she was only wearing a g string. yum, hooked again. her name is dayana.

we negotiated 50 cuc for the night even though i knew security wanted the girls out of my hotel by 5am and it was now close to 2am.

so back to the hotel, went through the security payment and they delivered her to my room. straight away she was groping me, trying to kiss me and rubbing her firm bod against me. i gave her a disposable toothbrush to use and then we showered together, she had cheeky firm c tits too and a plump shaved (2-3 days before) pussy which all felt so slippery when wet.

what a willing, smiling, pretty, firm bodied little thing she was, i would love to have her as a pet around the house. anyway in the 3 hours we had together we did pretty much everything i wanted, daty, bbbjcim, multi position pussy pounding, ball licking/sucking and even in my recovery periods she would do little things like kiss my ass cheeks.

as you can see by my name i like to poke things in everywhere but the one thing i didn’t do this time was anal. i did prepare her though while we were fucking doggie i had my thumb (with condom) in that delicious ass that was looking up at me, loosening her up a bit but her tight, plump pussy milked me before i got a chance to change holes.

never did get there as the security door knock at 5am still caught us naked, groping, licking and giggling like school girls so had to dress quickly and rush her out. she said she was 22 and she made me pop 3 times so i felt like i was the same age as her even though i am close to 3 times that.

i did get a few photos but managed to delete them off my sd card before posting, sorry guys.

a magnificent experience dayana.

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[Toronto]

As I posted earlier I just spent one week in Havana. Main purpose of the trip was actually sighseeing but did find time for some chicas. Besides reading previous posts, I was armed with bunch of info from Vedadofun. He doesn't seem to post much but he seems to have a lot of good info and I have to thank him for helping me out.

I flew into Varadero and it took literally no more than 15 minutes to clear immigration, pick up my bag, customs and be outside waiting for the Viazul bus. Not sure why they gave me the customs form to fill out since customs people didn't even look my way as I walked past. Immigration lady didn't say a word either except a smile when I asked for a stamp in the passport. The airport currency exchange lady provided the receipt first pointing out the rate and counted out the money. In fact, I never had any issues with exchanging money. The bus ride was quiet pleasant mostly along the coast and thru Matanzas and another town which I can't remember the name of. In general, I was surprised that almost no attempts were made to cheat me by wait staff, bartenders and cab drivers. For example, when I took a cab back from Morro across the tunnel the meter read 2.13 and when I handed him a 5 he gave me back 3 and said ok. It was the only time taking a cab on the meter. Otherwise I would just tell them the destination and price and let them accept or not before getting in. I paid 3-4 from Havana Vieja to La Rampa area where my casa was (perhaps I was getting ripped off at 3-4, I really have no idea). The only time I got ripped off was when I was with my "guide" who I promptly fired after one day.

As for the chica action, the first one was provided by my guide. I let him know what I was looking for and he claimed she is someone he knows and a "regular" girl from the countryside. I got the vibe that she was quite professional but decided to give it a go since he came recommended. Turns out I was right and I had kicked her out after less than 20 minutes. She was actually part of a group of about 4-5 hardcore putas who hang around a small parkette across my casa. I realized the next day that all I had to get one of them was stand outside the gate of my casa for literally 30 seconds. Needless to say I didn't touch any of them rest of the week.

I did all my hunting along La Rampa. For info, my Spanish skill is about Pimsleur level 2. First chica on my own, I made eye contact as I walked by while she was getting grilled by the policia. I did a slow walk around the block and when I came back the policia was gone and she was on the other side of the street. Quickly negotiated and had her follow me to the casa. Paid 30 for two shots and an attempt at greek. She wasn't lying I don't think when she said she never does greek. Had a hard time working up to two fingers and she seemed genuinely in pain so I stopped.

Second chica I saw while getting a bottle of water at a outdoor cafe in the afternoon. She followed me to the casa without settling on price. After getting her naked I figured I better settle this so negotiated 35 for two shots. I was surprised that the casa owner offered us coffee in the garden patio as I brought her out to send her off.

Third chica was almost an afterthought since I got a little drunk with couple of random Canadians I met. It was after midnight on Friday and there were almost no chicas to be found. So in my semi-drunken state I just accepted the offer of 40 and sent her off after one shot since I just wanted to sleep at that point.

My last night I looked up another guy recommended and he had a chica lined up for 30. But she was on her last day of her period as I saw some blood on the condom. So I sent her off after one shot.

All of them provided bbbj but not cim. I wasn't too impressed with the looks of the chicas on La Rampa and even less impressed with the ones I saw at some of the bars in Havana Vieja. I have no idea what the high priced chicas at the clubs look like since I had no desire to pay the cover to find out. The looks was why I took couple of the days off and would have taken more days off had I not been bored at night. Reminded me of Buenos Aires where I saw lots of beautiful chicas during the day sightseeing and such but a huge drop off at the establishments, even at the relatively high priced ones.

It wasn't really that difficult to talk to chicas on La Rampa despite the heavy police presence. The chicas who spoke a decent amount of English or dressed in flash somewhat nice clothes would absolutely not come down below 40. One of them turn down four offers inculding mine and promptly got pulled aside by the police as soon as she walked out of the outdoor cafe we were in. I found it funny that the police would do nothing no matter how blatant it was as long as it was inside the cafe. At one point I was sitting 3 feet away from 3 cops and chicas seemed to have no problem talking to me.

My only regret was that I didn't try any of the regular chicas I saw walking around during the day. Perhaps my problem was that I tried to talk to them like I would back home but this was impossible due to my lack of Spanish skills. I probably should have gone straight to the point but for some reason that didn't feel right.

Overall I loved La Habana, it's a great city to visit. But it was fairly expensive especially at 71 pesos to 100 CAD.

[La Isla]

La Isla,
Yes, I've been to Cuba in the late nineties - many times. But after 1998, the situation deteriorated every year. My visits got less frequent and, after 2003, I did not return at all - until last December. Unfortunately, the situation only got worse. I knew that of course from reading this forum but I just had to see for myself once more. Back in the old days, it was absolutely the best place to be and I don't think that any place will ever come close to that level.

Yup, it was quite a special place back then. I'm glad I had the opportunity to experience it several (20+) times before things changed. Trouble is, its hard to tell people about it because nobody really believes it. Oh well, c'est la vie.

[BeersTerry]

I will believe you. I may have even experienced it. There may even be a couple of people lurking here that used to live in Cuba back then.

[GoldMember33]

I find it hard to believe that Havana has become that bad of a mongers destination that there hasnt been any thread activity for months? I was there last summer and plan to go back this July I had a great time with many a young chica. I stayed at the Tropicoco in Playa de Estes and was allowed to bring my new friends back to the hotel with me for the cost of a daily AI rate for them. I think about 40 CUC? There are tons of locals on the beach at that time of year and with some patience and the right eye contact you can have some fun. I also stayed in a Casa near Prado and a Jinitero brought be several HOT young chicas. Doesn't anyone have some recent fun to report?

[Jerry Sweitzer]

I find it hard to believe that Havana has become that bad of a mongers destination that there hasnt been any thread activity for months? I was there last summer and plan to go back this July I had a great time with many a young chica. I stayed at the Tropicoco in Playa de Estes and was allowed to bring my new friends back to the hotel with me for the cost of a daily AI rate for them. I think about 40 CUC? There are tons of locals on the beach at that time of year and with some patience and the right eye contact you can have some fun. I also stayed in a Casa near Prado and a Jinitero brought be several HOT young chicas. Doesn't anyone have some recent fun to report?True, Havana is not THAT bad, but if you're by yourself, and think that you can walk down any random street and pick up any cute girl you see, you'd be mistaken.

I was there in February and literally some girls would completely ignore me or even run away if I said Hi.

I did score a few times in Havana (maybe 3 or 4, all semi-pros) and I was in Havana proper for 1 week.

Everybody's experience is different. If you go to a night club, there is guaranteed poon, but they are hardcore.

Getting anything else (semi-pro, non-pro) requires the use of the locals or a lot of foot work. If you don't have connections or aren't willing to walk for hours in search of chicas, don't be surprised if you go to bed by yourself. Also, a car helps.

I did not use any local help in getting poon, as I had been warned about being ripped-off/scams, etc. Something you should keep in mind.

However if you can find a trusted source, who knows what you want, and isn't going to rip you off, go for it. Taxi drivers are useful as well.

[Rebel Monger]

I find it hard to believe that Havana has become that bad of a mongers destination that there hasnt been any thread activity for months? I was there last summer and plan to go back this July I had a great time with many a young chica. I stayed at the Tropicoco in Playa de Estes and was allowed to bring my new friends back to the hotel with me for the cost of a daily AI rate for them. I think about 40 CUC? There are tons of locals on the beach at that time of year and with some patience and the right eye contact you can have some fun. I also stayed in a Casa near Prado and a Jinitero brought be several HOT young chicas. Doesn't anyone have some recent fun to report?
I can find the same or better in the Dominican Republic, a more monger friendly environment.
Women in Cuba can go to jail for socializing with foreigner mongers, so those who "take the risk" are the ones who wouldn't mind jail time (hardcores).
Even when women are beautiful there, Cuba is too much hassle, fortunately, it isn't for me!

[El Rey De Pollo]

I can find the same or better in the Dominican Republic, a more monger friendly environment.
Women in Cuba can go to jail for socializing with foreigner mongers, so those who "take the risk" are the ones who wouldn't mind jail time (hardcores).
Even when women are beautiful there, Cuba is too much hassle, fortunately, it isn't for me!

Sad, but true.

And to Goldmember: I don't think anyone is saying that Cuba is the worst place for mongering on the planet. We're just saying it used to be world class and now it is definately at the bottom of the whole Latin America. Because it's illegal and too risky for normal girls, so there is not much to be had other than hardcore pros. More and more girls, like the previous poster said, will simply run away if you talk to them.

The stinkiness of Cuba is particularly the case for first time visitors. If you speak Spanish and have a bunch of local friends and you are invited to parties in the suburbs where cops aren't around, Cuba is great. But for John Doe, just landed for the first time, walking around Parque Central and Obispo, even La Rampa and Malecón, with a hard on, yes I think it sucks.

But glad you had a good time. Seems all hope is not lost!

[BeersTerry]

I remember a time when the air in Havana was electric. You would step out the door and have a hard on all night long looking at all the eye candy.

This has'nt been the case for at least 10 years. The smell of rotting garbage and diesel does make me queasy ocassionally.........but es Cuba.

As stated at various times, you have to have another reason to go to Cuba. If mongering opportunities present themselves, then great. If that is the sole purpose of the trip, you may be very disappointed.

[Bonker04]

I agree with Beersterry and Travelling Gring.

Cuba is no longer the place it once was. I have been going there well over a hundred times during the last ten years or so, mainly in connection with my work, and things have definitely deteriorated over that time. Unless you have local knowledge, or better still local friends, there are far better places to go now. The police presence is even more noticeable since Raul has taken the reins, and many more 'punto de control' check points have been set on many roads throughout Cuba.

I was there in December for two weeks, and, more recently in March for three weeks. In December I was stopped five times, and in March no less than twelve. I have learned my lesson over the years to drive without giving reason to be stopped, but the police seem more than ever, prone to pulling over tourist cars in the hope of making a 'quick buck'. They also give the chica a harder time now, taking their details 'ad nauseum'!

Another thing I have noticed of late is how expensive things have become. Car hire is more expensive, petrol, and just about everything else you can think of. This combined with the appalling exchange rate that they impose means my costs are about 30% more than a year ago

As much as I love Cuba and the local people, it is certainly not the place for opportunities to monger that it once was. More's the pity! The local girls are genuinely more nervous than they used to be, so it is only the more hardcore girls that will take the risk. If Cuba is a destination solely for hunting, then my advice is forget it. Unless you are very lucky, or well connected, you will sadly be very disappointed!

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[Member #4167]

I agree with Beersterry and Travelling Gring.

Cuba is no longer the place it once was. I have been going there well over a hundred times during the last ten years or so, mainly in connection with my work, and things have definitely deteriorated over that time. Unless you have local knowledge, or better still local friends, there are far better places to go now. The police presence is even more noticeable since Raul has taken the reins, and many more 'punto de control' check points have been set on many roads throughout Cuba.
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Another thing I have noticed of late is how expensive things have become. Car hire is more expensive, petrol, and just about everything else you can think of. This combined with the appalling exchange rate that they impose means my costs are about 30% more than a year ago

As much as I love Cuba and the local people, it is certainly not the place for opportunities to monger that it once was. More's the pity! The local girls are genuinely more nervous than they used to be, so it is only the more hardcore girls that will take the risk. If Cuba is a destination solely for hunting, then my advice is forget it. Unless you are very lucky, or well connected, you will sadly be very disappointed!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.I love Cuba too. I was there for several months one year ago. I agree with your assessment of the problems there: the girls are clearly scared due to increased police presence, things have gotten expensive and the mongering oppurtunities have plummeted. The harshness of living there has encouraged the most mobile and ambitious of the population to leave the island. A large part of the 18-30 year old crowd has fled

The exception to this rule is in havana and some of the larger more progressive cities (holguin, camaguey) in these cities, especially near the universities you will find the 18-25 year olds. But, alas, police scrutiny is the toughest in these cities. To be fair, police scrutiny is tough all over the island. And in the campo, where police scrutiny is not so tough, the girls are afraid of being called sluts by the neighbors and by the local CDR.

One more thing: recently I went to a local shopping mall in a major city here in the US. While there I compared the attractiveness of the women to those found in Cuba. Attributes/factors: a) Cuba's population is aging b) the younger prettier girls have found overseas husbands and have moved overseas c) it's a tough life just to survive. No money and no free time means not being able to go to the gym, or to the beauty parlor d) the diet is very unhealthy. Mostly fried foods and starches. E) let's face it, in poor countries, people have alot less time to spend and money to spend on health and beauty.

Per capita, there are far fewer attractive women in Cuba than in the USA.

Have others noticed this?

[Member #4167]

The stinkiness of Cuba is particularly the case for first time visitors. If you speak Spanish and have a bunch of local friends and you are invited to parties in the suburbs where cops aren't around, Cuba is great. But for John Doe, just landed for the first time, walking around Parque Central and Obispo, even La Rampa and Malecón, with a hard on, yes I think it sucks.TG. I agree with you that the best way to land a chica is to speak Spanish and have cuban friends invite you to parties where you can meet girls. I did this three times while in Cuba. With three freinds in three different cities.

In one city it worked out very well for me.

In the other city (bayamo) the girls were scared to talk to me in the street, but where ok talking to me at a party (still abit nervous), finally, the girls at the party were too scared to go out on a date or tell me where they lived in the last city. One of the girls was a prude and the other had a bigger and better deal. She didn't need me.

Yes, certainly it is alot easier to meet a girl when one has been introduced at a party, and the girl is out of the streets away from the police. However in a party, the girl is now under the watchful eye of her freinds, family and neighbors. And she does not want to look like a ****. Plus, she knows that when she starts dating you, she will still have to go out in the street with you.

Also. If your friends do introduce you to a girl at a party, and you hook up with her. You are pretty much stuck with the same girl for the duration of your current and future trips to Cuba. You can't drop her and find another one. You will be labelled as a mujeriego and your freinds won't hook you up again. If you want to find another girl. Go to a new town. For foreigners in Cuba, there is only one girl per customer. This is ridiculous because my same cuban friends have different girlfriends. They can do it but the foreigner can't. Hypocrits!

TG. The bottom line is: even if you go to parties. Yes you can get hooked up with a girl. As long as you can stick to just one girl you will do fine. If you want to boff many girls. Forget about it.

Do you agree?

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[Member #4167]

for John Doe, just landed for the first time, walking around Parque Central and Obispo, even La Rampa and Malecón, with a hard on, yes I think it sucks.I Agree with you. When I was there 1 year ago.

Malecon was dead. I did meet some chicas but when I started talking to them, the policia came up and started hassling them for I'd and such.

La Rampa and side streets. There are lots of pretty chicas walking around. This area is rich with hot babes. Unfortunately nearly all will NOT return eye contact, will NOT return your smile and will not speak to you when spoken to. La Rampa is the "land of the unsatisfied hardon"

[El Rey De Pollo]

Per capita, there are far fewer attractive women in Cuba than in the USA.

Have others noticed this?

WB, I usually agree with you on lots - and thanks for agreeing with me on most :-) - but this one I disagree with!

I find that there are more attractive women per capita in almost all of Latin America than in the U.S. Yes, NY and California has lots, but apart from that.

No offence. Luckily for you yankees, you can get to Latin America in a few hours. For me it takes 15...

[El Rey De Pollo]

TG. The bottom line is: even if you go to parties. Yes you can get hooked up with a girl. As long as you can stick to just one girl you will do fine. If you want to boff many girls. Forget about it.

Do you agree?

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Well, I agree, but with exceptions to that rule. A few of my Cuban friends treat me like a Cuban. They couldn't care less (in fact they would enjoy it I think) if i did all their friends and half the island on top. But you are certainly right that such situations are delicate, and that you can't go to parties with the same crowd and pick a new one each time. So the secret is having a bunch of Cuban friends taking you to new parties with new crowds. But hey, now we're talking Cuba, 'cause that is starting to be some complicated detour for something as simple as getting some decent ass...

But that is what Cuba has become. The most complex, most complicated, most confusing and most unstable mongeringd destination in the world.

[Sexmetv]

TG. The bottom line is: even if you go to parties. Yes you can get hooked up with a girl. As long as you can stick to just one girl you will do fine. If you want to boff many girls. Forget about it.

Do you agree?


I will caveat by saying this is my experience. I have been to Cuba many times over the last three years. While I agree with you that you cannot sleep with 3-4 girls a day like you can in some countries (say Brazil, Colombia) - I have not had a problem "switching" girls from one day to the other. In fact one of the things that I love about Cuba is that on many occasions the casa I stay in (which belongs to my cuban friend who lives there also) will typically have 3 or 4 girls staying there (family, friends, extended family) and by the end of the trip I would have hooked up with 3 or 4 of them (many times at the insistence of my friend lol!) with no grief. And these girls are not professionals by any stretch of the imagination. They know that I am there on a vacation, and I'm not a jerk - plus I will usually pay for drinks/cover charges when I'm out with them and leave a little gift the day I'm leaving. That said, on a few occasions I have simply chilled with the same girl for the whole trip because IMHO Cuban women don't have to take a back seat to nobody when it comes to giving GFE.

[Member #3200]

As a long time visitor (10 years) & monger to Cuba who knows that a person of my lack of Spanish & connections there, the prospects of scoring multiple times per day or even once per day is a tough act nowadays to achieve.

I now treat Cuba has a cheap place for fun & relaxation and if I get my hands on pussy 2 times per week near the resort I'm staying at is now a successful trip. Other than the usual places--beach near the hotel tropicoco, the via blanca highway, the Aramark & El Trebol bars on the via blanca--is there anywhere else in the area that a guy can find pro/non pro action?

I leave Thursday afternoon arrive early Thursday evening & would love for some extra help other than the places mentioned above & the 1 or 2 dudes that I seem to find who say they can find me chicas.

I got such a deal on the AI resort that I booked today that whatever happens happens (pussy or no pussy) & as always I will never overpay/do the italian just to get lucky on this trip.

[BeersTerry]

It is summer time. Pussy is at the beach.

[MCruddy]

Any info on Carnival in Havana in July? I understand it is every weekend leading up to July 27th, which is the big and final day. Has anyone on the board been to Havana for Carnival and can tell me what to expect? I know that it won't come close to Rio or Salvador Brazil, but I'm curious what goes on and how expensive things get. Any input would be great. Also, I know Carnival is traditionally in Feb/Mar, but for some reason the Cubans celebrate it in July. I believe it has to do with Fidel Castro's birthday being July 27th. Thanks all.

MCruddy

[Rebel Monger]

Any info on Carnival in Havana in July? I understand it is every weekend leading up to July 27th, which is the big and final day. Has anyone on the board been to Havana for Carnival and can tell me what to expect? I know that it won't come close to Rio or Salvador Brazil, but I'm curious what goes on and how expensive things get. Any input would be great. Also, I know Carnival is traditionally in Feb/Mar, but for some reason the Cubans celebrate it in July. I believe it has to do with Fidel Castro's birthday being July 27th. Thanks all.

MCruddy
MCruddy, I assume you flunked "revolution 101", fidel's DOB was August 13, 1926. Carnivals in Cuba was always celebrated around those dates, don't forget that the Moncada Garrison attack (July 26th, 1953) took place during the carnivals in Santiago de Cuba. In reality, Cubans shouldn't celebrate during those dates because to the Moncada were sent to die many good, idealistics young men for the benefit of a few who didn't fight.
When I lived there carnivals were fun, I assume today's the same. It was a good time to pick up chicks. Isn't that what you'll be there for anyway?

[Bowline]

I Agree with you. When I was there 1 year ago.

Malecon was dead. I did meet some chicas but when I started talking to them, the policia came up and started hassling them for I'd and such.

La Rampa and side streets. There are lots of pretty chicas walking around. This area is rich with hot babes. Unfortunately nearly all will NOT return eye contact, will NOT return your smile and will not speak to you when spoken to. La Rampa is the "land of the unsatisfied hardon"Very strange, I have good results on La Rampa, just walking or hanging around around the area close to the open terrace cafe, Cafe Sofia??, While at the stop light in front of the Cafe met 2 ladies eating popcorn, they smiled walked down street and looked back, I followed, they waited for me, we spoke a little joke around and I brought both back to my Casa, also, at the Casa De Musica on a Sunday afternoon, while waiting in line to buy tickets I was picked up by 3 ladies, also in line. I bought the drinks danced a had all three in a weeks time, I speak very little Spanish. Sometimes I think speaking good Spanish is limiting, they girls seem to think my effort and mistakes to be hilarious. I usually do pretty well.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Every now and then someone pops in and says 'what are you guys talking about? I got laid in Cuba! several times!'

Well, nobody is saying you can't find action in Cuba. And if you are not picky, you can find lots in a place like Havana. But for those of us, who have been going for many years, Cuba is simply stratching the bottom now.

It's also a matter of taste. It used to be that even a guy with the pickiest taste who would only take supermodel-material home, could get laid 2 times a day. Now you can get laid 10 times a day with hardcore hookers while you can spend weeks hitching up with the type of girls that would litterally run after you back then. 9 out of 10 will run away now. Because of two things: Fear of police - and because Cuba is just ruined. From being a place where it was something special if a pretty and clever girl could hook up with a foreigner to being a place where every girl seen with a foreigner is labelled as a hooker.

That may be fun for some - Banging the putas from La Rampa and Casa de la Musica. I respect that. But it's no fun for those who were in Cuba 10 years ago.


Very strange, I have good results on La Rampa, just walking or hanging around around the area close to the open terrace cafe, Cafe Sofia??, While at the stop light in front of the Cafe met 2 ladies eating popcorn, they smiled walked down street and looked back, I followed, they waited for me, we spoke a little joke around and I brought both back to my Casa, also, at the Casa De Musica on a Sunday afternoon, while waiting in line to buy tickets I was picked up by 3 ladies, also in line. I bought the drinks danced a had all three in a weeks time, I speak very little Spanish. Sometimes I think speaking good Spanish is limiting, they girls seem to think my effort and mistakes to be hilarious. I usually do pretty well.

[GoldMember33]

Hey TG,

I am going back again and hope that I had the luck I had last summer at Playa Del Este/ Maybe not 9s and 10 twice a day but I def had seven and 8 semi pros a few times per week. Good enough for me LOL

I am going to get a case in Havana for a few nights. Do you think you could hook me up with a recommendation? Email me at [Email address deleted by Admin] if so.

Thanks

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[Member #4167]

"Police carry out arrests of youths in Havana

CUBANET JUNE 02 2009

HAVANA, Cuba, June 1 (Roberto de Jesús Guerra / www.cubanet.org) – The National Police Force staged a series of raids last week in the capital, arresting dozens of youths, among them homosexuals and prostitutes.

The police asked for indentify cards from those walking around in places such as Vedado and the Malecón. Some of those stopped were taken to police stations for questioning.

"These raids take place almost daily against young blacks, whites and Orientals,” said Oswaldo Paya, leader of the Christian Liberation Movement.

Protestant evangelical pastors harassed and arrested"

Read the second to last line - "These raids take place almost daily"

[Member #4167]

Every now and then someone pops in and says 'what are you guys talking about? I got laid in Cuba! Several times! '

Well, nobody is saying you can't find action in Cuba. And if you are not picky, you can find lots in a place like Havana. But for those of us, who have been going for many years, Cuba is simply stratching the bottom now.

It's also a matter of taste. It used to be that even a guy with the pickiest taste who would only take supermodel-material home, could get laid 2 times a day. Now you can get laid 10 times a day with hardcore hookers while you can spend weeks hitching up with the type of girls that would litterally run after you back then. 9 out of 10 will run away now. Because of two things: Fear of police. And because Cuba is just ruined. From being a place where it was something special if a pretty and clever girl could hook up with a foreigner to being a place where every girl seen with a foreigner is labelled as a hooker.

That may be fun for some. Banging the putas from La Rampa and Casa de la Musica. I respect that. But it's no fun for those who were in Cuba 10 years ago.I'm with you Travelling Gringo. I'm into the semi-pro scene of the days of old, where the girl would say she loved you and give you PSE sex. Of course, she always wound up trying to milk you for every dime and she broke your heart. But, hey, that's fun.

I miss the days of old where the jiniteras ran after me. Now I have to run after them. I DO NOT expect the OLD Cuba to return. Them were some tough times back then. Despite the improvement in the economy the NEW Cuba would be friendlier if it weren't for all the police harrasment of the jiniteras and the rules against walking with or registering in a hotel with a foreigner.

TG. Do you agree with the following statement: "Cuba is WORSE for semi-pro and non-pro action than other poor latin american countries."?

[El Rey De Pollo]

TG. Do you agree with the following statement: "Cuba is WORSE for semi-pro and non-pro action than other poor latin american countries."?

In all fairness, I should say that I am not as well travelled in any other Latin American country as I am in Cuba. I have simply spend too much time in Cuba to allow for much else. But from the travels I have done, Cuba, it seems to me, has gone from GFE paradise numero uno, to be much tougher than places like Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Costa Rica. I think the problem is that Cuba is relatively small, and all (almost) are equally poor, so jineterism has just become the standard. I mean, if you're a nice girl and you've seen your neighbour make 50 CUC every time she fucks a foreigner, why are you going to do it for free? Especially when you are making 20 CUC yourself in a months pay. Tourism has ruined Cuba. Castro kept saying it would for 40 years, then he gave up because they needed the cash, but in the end he was right.

My dos centavos

[BeersTerry]

Yes, it is hard in Cuba these days. Though if you do not speak Spanish, it will be hard everywhere unless you are into the transaction sex.

I have visited numerous other countries and go back to Cuba for the music and visit friends.

[Conculo]

Every now and then someone pops in and says 'what are you guys talking about? I got laid in Cuba! several times!'

Well, nobody is saying you can't find action in Cuba. And if you are not picky, you can find lots in a place like Havana. But for those of us, who have been going for many years, Cuba is simply stratching the bottom now.

It's also a matter of taste. It used to be that even a guy with the pickiest taste who would only take supermodel-material home, could get laid 2 times a day. Now you can get laid 10 times a day with hardcore hookers while you can spend weeks hitching up with the type of girls that would litterally run after you back then. 9 out of 10 will run away now. Because of two things: Fear of police - and because Cuba is just ruined. From being a place where it was something special if a pretty and clever girl could hook up with a foreigner to being a place where every girl seen with a foreigner is labelled as a hooker.

That may be fun for some - Banging the putas from La Rampa and Casa de la Musica. I respect that. But it's no fun for those who were in Cuba 10 years ago.All the Veradero guys are always saying how Cuba is ruined. But nobody is taking into account the economic situation Cuba was in and how it affected things. Sure, during the great depression in the States, model type New York hookers were much more reasonable that they were in the 90's. New York wasn't ruined, it just wasn't as desperate.

You can't compare the Special Period to what's going on now. Yes, over-saturation to foreign money has driven the price up. But Cuba is still a fabulous place to party.

[Jerry Sweitzer]

I heard that the mid-90's was the Golden Era of poon in Cuba, you could easily find hot barrio girls for a few dollars, and they weren't as afraid of the police.

I just saw a documentary called "Quien Diablos es Juliette", from 1996. It's about a 16yo semi-pro from Havana and she was saying how her price was $1 per day, plus a little extra for sex. Too bad I was a teenager and had no money then. I would have been there so fast!

But in any case it's been 15 years since then and times change, that's all there is too it. There is more of a stigma to being a jinetera, and also the economy isn't as bad.

So what happens is that the girls who do decide to fuck on the side are the ones who want the cellphones and the Nike shoes, and if they're really hot and have no hang ups, they'll do it full time, like the hardcore-pros you see in the clubs.

Are there "normal" girls available in Cuba, sure there are, but you aren't going o find them in the 5 days you have on your summer vacation, or near the AI's or in the Clubs (though you are starting to see more "normal" Cubans in the CUC discos also, especially when they're playing raegetton, lol), you have to put in a lot of time and effort and develop contacts, etc.

When I was there in February, I was at this Peso sandwich shop and there's this black dude in his 30's talking to this pretty white girl in her school uniform about money and shit, she seems to be paying pretty close attention, I ask him if he's her cousin (yeah right more like pimp) and he says are you a cop (because he wouldn't be going to jail if I was right?) and then I see them leave together. You know that this is in Cuba because instead of leaving, he would've pulled out his .45. That dude was a straight-up pimp, just like in NYC or Atlanta, or L.A. And increasingly those are the girls you're going to find in Cuba, just straight-up hoes.

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[El Rey De Pollo]

What does your perspective have to do with mine? It's a totally different subject, and you are pretty close to being spot on.


All the Veradero guys are always saying how Cuba is ruined. But nobody is taking into account the economic situation Cuba was in and how it affected things. Sure, during the great depression in the States, model type New York hookers were much more reasonable that they were in the 90's. New York wasn't ruined, it just wasn't as desperate.

You can't compare the Special Period to what's going on now. Yes, over-saturation to foreign money has driven the price up. But Cuba is still a fabulous place to party.

[GoldMember33]

I will be in Havana for a couple of weeks next month and will be sure to report on my exploits. I will be staying in Centro at a casa I hope. What is better the Malecon or Prado for finding young hot babes?

[Member #4167]

All the Veradero guys are always saying how Cuba is ruined. But nobody is taking into account the economic situation Cuba was in and how it affected things. Sure, during the great depression in the States, model type New York hookers were much more reasonable that they were in the 90's. New York wasn't ruined, it just wasn't as desperate.

You can't compare the Special Period to what's going on now. Yes, over-saturation to foreign money has driven the price up. But Cuba is still a fabulous place to party.I have to disagree with you, Conculo

If what you were saying were true, Conculo, you would see almost as many puticas on the malecon today as you did in the early 90's. They would be still be there, but their prices would have gone up due to the better times.

The opposite is true: Not ONLY have prices gone up, quantity has gone way way down. This is because prostitution has illegal and actively enforced. And the penalties are severe. Where you used to see 100's you are lucky to see 1 putica.

Compare Cuba to Thailand. Prostitution is illegal but widely tolerated. The price has gone up in Thailand as well. This is mainly due to overpaying sex tourists and also due to Thailand's improved economy.

You can't blame the price increase in Cuba primarily on stupid overpaying sex tourists. There are hardly ANY sex tourists (compared to SEA, Brazil, Ecuador) there is hardly a well developed sex tourism industry in Cuba. Everything is clandestine, underground.

The reasons for the price increase in Cuba are (in descending order):

#1 Persecution of jiniteras. (BY FAR THE OVERRIDING FACTOR)

#2 The improved cuban economy

#3 Overpaying sex tourists.

[Crack Baby]

What if we aren't looking for prostitutes? Just hot girls that would love a foreign wealthy boyfriend (I am young and attractive, but East Indian. American accent)?

I'm specifically looking for hot blondes, do these exist in Cuba? I only ask versus europe because Cuba is so much closer and cheaper to where I am (Canada).

Is no Spanish a big barrier to this plan?

[Bonker04]

Crack Baby - blondes do exist in Cuba, but certainly genuine blondes are few and far between. There are quite a few of the 'peroxide' variety!

If you are looking for a regular girl then, unless your very lucky, Spanish is definitely a requirement as very few locals speak English.

Good luck!

[El Rey De Pollo]

This continous blonds-discussion is ridiculous, especially that people keep arguing 'yes, there are blondes' to people who specifically ask if they should go to Cuba for blondes...

As hard as it is for anybody, let alone a non-spanish speaking first timer, to get any girl at all, what are the odds of some rookie hooking up with hot natural blondes in Cuba?

The answer is this: Not happening.

I have spend more than a year in Cuba. I can count the number of hot natural blondes I have seen on one hand.

[Sexmetv]

What if we aren't looking for prostitutes? Just hot girls that would love a foreign wealthy boyfriend (I am young and attractive, but East Indian. American accent)?

I'm specifically looking for hot blondes, do these exist in Cuba? I only ask versus europe because Cuba is so much closer and cheaper to where I am (Canada).

Is no Spanish a big barrier to this plan?

So let me get this straight, a WEALTHY guy that wants to go to Cuba to find BLONDES because its closer and CHEAPER lol! am I the only one that finds this sentence incredibly funny...

If you're wealthy, not looking for prostitutes and want Blondes may I suggest, oh I don't know... how about Toronto Canada ;)

[Kalifornication]

Umm yea, ... because the Cuban women will treat you allot better, ... FOOL. Smile I do not suggest you are fool mi amigo.


So let me get this straight, a WEALTHY guy that wants to go to Cuba to find BLONDES because its closer and CHEAPER lol! am I the only one that finds this sentence incredibly funny...

If you're wealthy, not looking for prostitutes and want Blondes may I suggest, oh I don't know... how about Toronto Canada ;)

[BeersTerry]

O.K...I find it funny too. Looking for blondes in Cuba is like finding a needle in a haystack. In all my years there, I think I saw two real ones, but not in Havana.

Let me get this straight, the guy is looking to go south to find women lacking in pigmentation ?

[Conculo]

Just back from the Island. Talk about a buyers market.

Whereas girls a few months ago in the discos were starting at 100cuc and working down. Now, they start at 50cuc.

If you can stand the heat, Cuba is great right now.

[JohnMajor23]

What was the disco? Salon rojo? If it is salon rojo it is a great change but otherwise it was posible to take a chica for 50 CUC before.

I hope it will be the same in one year when I will fuck all of them and of course the frebies!


Just back from the Island. Talk about a buyers market.

Whereas girls a few months ago in the discos were starting at 100cuc and working down. Now, they start at 50cuc.

If you can stand the heat, Cuba is great right now.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Amigos,

Some Mexican clown has rented my regular casa for the rest of the year, so now I need to find a substitute casa for my one month visit in September/October.

Hoping some of you fellow-veterans can help me out.

My regular casa in Vedado is a rare jewel. The owner does not even live there. It is the only place I have found with that beautiful set-up, but I know there are others around.

Needless to say, I am not one of those idiots who take advantage of good casa-setups. I know the ropes, and am discreet in any way. Also, I would always respect that anyone who helps me would have first pick on the casa in the future. That is my own rule # 1 for the few people I have given my own casa info to.

TG

[Vincent Van Ho]

What if we aren't looking for prostitutes? Just hot girls that would love a foreign wealthy boyfriend (I am young and attractive, but East Indian. American accent)?

I'm specifically looking for hot blondes, do these exist in Cuba? I only ask versus europe because Cuba is so much closer and cheaper to where I am (Canada).

Is no Spanish a big barrier to this plan?There are no stupid questions.

Only stupid people who ASK questions.

[Conculo]

Amigos,

Some Mexican clown has rented my regular casa for the rest of the year, so now I need to find a substitute casa for my one month visit in September/October.

Hoping some of you fellow-veterans can help me out.

My regular casa in Vedado is a rare jewel. The owner does not even live there. It is the only place I have found with that beautiful set-up, but I know there are others around.

Needless to say, I am not one of those idiots who take advantage of good casa-setups. I know the ropes, and am discreet in any way. Also, I would always respect that anyone who helps me would have first pick on the casa in the future. That is my own rule # 1 for the few people I have given my own casa info to.

TGShoot me a pm and I'll steer you in the right direction.

[Dave_Far]

Could use some help for recommendations for Casas as well. Looking for one in Havana. A casa with an e-mail would be best so that I can make arrangements prior to landing. Just looking for a 1 time deal. First time in Cuba and I doubt I'll have the chance to be back for a long time. Any help would be much appreciated.

[Dave_Far]

Just to add to my previous post. Has anyone used the website cubaaccomodation to book casas? Looks like it has a ton of options but not sure why but I got a bad feeling about booking through them.

[Conculo]

Just to add to my previous post. Has anyone used the website cubaaccomodation to book casas? Looks like it has a ton of options but not sure why but I got a bad feeling about booking through them.I've been to Cuba over 40 times, and had a myriad of experiences with casas. Some funny, some not so funny.

I'd say the best website, in my experience, is casaparticular.org. The guys name is Tony, he's from Miami and speaks English, and he always delivers. His email address is tony@casaparticular.org.

In regards to Cuba Accomodation, every time I tried to use them, they would confirm with me, ask me for banking info, which never happens in Cuba, then on the day before my trip, I'd get an email that they were changing the casa. I would recommend not using them. But if you insist, I hope you have better luck than I did.

[Wet Nose]

Check out my post in Cuba classifieds:

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=545935&postcount=3

[Mo Isg]

I've been reading reports of the country trying to sell oil to pay for nickel mining debts. But no AC in the heat of the summer is ridulous, can anyone confirm this? Is already 3 showers a day in August but its crazy. They have Ice for the Mojitos?

Can anyone confirm the reports?

[BeersTerry]

I have been reading similarly but power conservation during summer months has been a fact of life on the island. The Cubans have always endured the heat but some gringos just can't live without the AC.

It is August and it is the Carribean. What else did you expect ?

[Vedado Fun]

I just returned from 10 days in Havana a week ago. I stayed at a casa in Vedado near the Habana Libre.
The first night I was there we had several power outages that lasted 30 mins or less. Other than that I never had any problems with AC or hot water.

[El Rey De Pollo]

New power consumption regulations only applies to AC in public offices. Not in hotel, resorts, private casas.

[Smokers Rule]

I was recently in Cuba for a few days...here's a trip report.

AIRPORT

I arrived from CUN on a Cubana flight. Cubana runs 1 flight each way per day. The price is $270 for the flight and $18 for the tourist card. This price includes Mexican taxes.

I asked, and you can usually make reservations up to the day before you want to fly. That is, they are rarely sold out. And the good thing is that (unlike US airlines), the price does not seem to change much...at least with this promotion.

Here's the process for an American making a Cubana reservation:

1. E-mail Veronica Sanchez with the Cubana Cancun branch at reservaciones1@cubanacancun.com. Tell her your itinerary. She will probably ask you for your passport number too. I wrote her in Spanish, but I imagine someone there knows English.

2. When you get to Cancun, go to the Cubana offices and pay the $288. The Cubana offices are located here:

Av.Tulum 232
sm4 mza12
Edificio Cancun Towers
Cubana de Aviacion
Tels 887 7210 y 8877017

Taxi from the Zona Hotelera in CUN is around $10 each way, less if you negotiate. My taxi driver had some problems finding it. It's on the corner, on the first floor of a two-story office building.

You go in and tell them you have a reservation. I had a copy of my e-mails to Veronica. Then you wait for a seemingly endless amount of time until they press every button on their keyboard, and you finally pay them. You can pay in USD.

They will give you a confirmed itinerary.

3. You bring the itinerary to the airport and get your boarding pass. Simple as that.

Cubana planes are old and crappy. The flight is not smooth. Good thing the flight is only 50 minutes.

Upon return, I politely asked the Mexican customs guy not to stamp my passport. I didn't try to bribe him though. He said he had to stamp it. I asked him to stamp it on a different page than the original stamp, and he asked me which page. So I had him stamp it on a page with a lot of other stamps. He was a good guy.

The standard taxi rate from the airport to Vedado (and probably anywhere else) is 20 CUC.

Remember: The airport tax is 25 CUC, so factor that into your equation. Also, don't lose your tourist card.

LODGING

I use http://www.cubaccommodation.com for my lodging. Send an e-mail to booking@cubaccommodation.com and Alejandro will hook you up. I tell him exactly what I want, and he finds it for me. I am also clear that I want the place to be 100% chica friendly. He passes this info along to the owner so there are no surprises when I arrive.

This time, I told Alejandro that I wanted an entire house to myself. He found me a nice house near John Lennon park with 2 bedrooms for 45 CUC, and the entire house was to myself. The owners lived in another house at the back of the property, and I didn't see them unless I called them and needed something.

I am very aware that 45 CUC in August is high. I was paying for two rooms and a completely private house, and this casa is much nicer than any I had been in. Nice and spacious, good A/C, TV, hot water, everything. The casa owner was very cool too about the girls. She explained that they take the names and ID numbers of the girls for my safety but they don't register them. At night, she has a security guy there (from 10 pm to 7 am). His name was Bruno.

I don't want to post the casa information here, but if you want it e-mail me and I'll get it to you. The owner asked me to pass along the information to you guys. She doesn't have an e-mail though so contacting Alejandro may be best. I can give you her phone number, though. She speaks good English.

GUIDE

Based on the recommendations of another forum member, I used a guide/driver named Jorge on the first night. He was supposed to pick my up from the airport, but it turns out he doesn't even have a car. He showed up at the airport for some reason anyway. That night, we went out and he found me a chica (see below) at a decent price, but all I did for him was buy him a couple of drinks. He was a little bit of a scammer, I think. Gave me bad vibes, so I stayed away for the rest of the trip. No harm, no foul. If you want his number, I have that too. But you probably don't want his number.

CHICAS...

I arrived about 5pm, met the guide, went to the casa, and went out. We went to a bar that he described as "Robin bar" and "Hemingway's Other Bar" I believe the sign outside said Conjelitas or something like that. It was in Vedado, about 3 blocks from Salon Rojo. Hopefully someone knows this place and can clear it up.

There were a number of tourists and some Cubans. The guide then went outside to look for a girl and he came back with Leila. She was a 21-year-old mulatta, very tiny and skinny, no kids. She was very scared about the police and didn't want to go out after that. We went back to the casa for 50 CUC TLN.

Leila is crazy and rode me for literally 30 minutes straight without stopping. It was unreal. Very good service. The only complaint is no DFK.

The next night, I went to the Hotel Nacional to make some phone calls then took a walk. Salon Rojo was hopping. Entrance was 10 CUC. I didn't go in. Then, as I was walking, I ran into Leila again. Imagine that. I took her back to my place for another TLN.

The next night, I was determined to see other sights. I went to El Turquino on the top of the Habana Libre. Entrance 10 CUC for non-hotel guests, but you could easily bypass this by lying. Maybe this was a bad night, but all I could see were tourists. None of this top model nonsense. Now, maybe this was all on the second floor of the Haban Libre and not the top floor, but I thought that the really good action was on the top floor. Not so much. But pretty panoramic view of the city and a good band. I stayed there for a couple of hours and left. Drinks expensive (6 CUC for cuba libre).

It is true that the girls on the street will typically not even look at you. However, around La Rampa and the Habana Libre, especially at night, you'll get some stares from the pros. It would be easy to pick them up. I mention this here because I regret not having talked to a girl I saw outside the Habana Libre as I was leaving.

Anyway, I got in a cab and went to Salon Rojo. It was PMM (no live music), so cover was just 5 CUC. Some decent looking girls, but you could tell they were all pros. I talked to a few who immediately wanted to leave, but didn't mention any prices. I decided to leave.

I then went to El Cantante. There were a lot of people. It was kind of dark and dingy, and there were a few good looking girls, but not a lot. This is a place for darker looking girls it seems.

I decided to go home and call Leila up again. You just can't go wrong there.

Leila gave me both her number and e-mail, but unfortunately I left them both in Havana. I regret this immensely.

TAXI DRIVERS

Taxi drivers are the biggest thieves in Havana. Their meters are always located behind their mirrors, and they always adjust either their mirror to cover it. If you ask them to use their mirror, they will try to negotiate with you. Now I know that paying 2-3 CUC when the fare is 1-2 CUC is not a huge deal, but I just hate how they take advantage of tourists.

EUROPEANS

There seemed to be fewer European guys there with hot girls this time around. I don't know if I just came at a bad time or what. It was definitely low season, and the global economic slump is definitely taking a toll.

INTERNET

To access the Internet, just go to a hotel. You can buy cards for 30 minutes for 5 CUC at the Melia Cohiba or Hotel Nacional. Probably the other hotels too, but I haven't checked. The Internet seems to have gotten faster since the last time I was in Cuba a year ago. All of the Cuban Internet terminals that I used seem to run the same tarjeta system. The Internet at the airport is REALLY fast (by Cuban standards).

GENERAL IMPRESSIONS

I like going to Cuba, but it's a pain in the butt for an American. The added cost of buying multiple plane tickets, the nervousness about passing U.S. customs, the potential for having your money stolen or losing your money and having no way of getting more money. It's all a pain. Also, not being able to have the things your used to is not fun, paying up the butt for calling the U.S. sucks, and paying 5 CUC at hotels for (relatively slow) Internet access makes you cringe. Oh, yeah...Cuba is hot too.

But there is something romantic about Cuba, and the Cuban women really do know how to please. Compared to a number of years ago, things are expensive. But on the whole, Cuba is still a better value than alternative places such as Costa Rica. I will return at least once a year until the embargo is lifted.

If you haven't ever been to Cuba and are contemplating a trip, I would DEFINITELY recommend it. Just (1) plan ahead, and (2) know that there will be some bumps and inconveniences along the way. Definitely worth it.

[Jonesie]

Very nice report Smokers. Leila is a winner. I've always had bad luck with cubaaccomodations. They always would change my reservation on the day before my trip and ask me to send money. I've always had great luck with Tony at casaparticular.org.

I too was in Havana last weekend. Man was it hot. I normally stay closer to the action. But I know that house and it's nice.

[Smokers Rule]

Sorry we couldn't meet up. I've used CA three times now and he's never asked me for money up front. Weird. Yes, it was VERY hot last weekend.


Very nice report Smokers. Leila is a winner. I've always had bad luck with cubaaccomodations. They always would change my reservation on the day before my trip and ask me to send money. I've always had great luck with Tony at casaparticular.org.

I too was in Havana last weekend. Man was it hot. I normally stay closer to the action. But I know that house and it's nice.

[BeersTerry]

El Conjelitas is a place where the pros and semi pros hang out.

Canitas is on the 2nd floor of the Habana Libre. It is hit or miss but when there are girls there are alot of girls. anywhere that is costs $10 to get in will be for pros or semi pros.

[Jonesie]

Havana is hot as fuck in August. But the mongering is fucking excellent.

Arrival and Check In:

I arrived in the afternoon and checked into my casa. The casa owner seemed a little nutty, but nothing too unusual. I went to the Focsa building to get some beverages for the fridge. While there, I saw a really hot girl working there in her mini-skirt uniform. I realized I only had 50cuc bills and went to the counter to ask for change. The girl said she wasn't supposed to break the bill, but would if I'd buy her a beer. I told her I would buy her two if she would introduce me to the girl I had my eye on since walking in. She called her over and I began to chat her up. We went outside and exchanged info. She said she got off at 8pm and could meet me then. As I was only a block away.

Yadira showed up at my house in her cute little uniform and asked where I'd like to go. I told her we could just stay at my casa. She at once realized what I was offering and in a blink switched to business mode and asked how much I wanted to pay her. I countered with the same question, to which she replied 30? . I told her that was fine. I had to argue a little for the BBBJ, but otherwise she had a great body and was pretty affectionate in bed.

Afterward, I gave her 35cuc and asked her to smile for my camera. She very adamatley insisted that I not take pictures. Sorry fellas.

What I absolutely love about Cuba is that you can do shit like this on a daily basis. Nowhere else can you get an everyday grocery store girl to come fuck you after her shift for 35cuc.

First Night: Stretch

After sending my mercado girl on her way with some well earned overtime pay, I took a nap, a shower, and went to my favorite place on earth. The Candy Store. I arrived at La Canitas a little early, it was only 11pm. Only a few girls were there and I decided to grab a bottle of water and a table. Shortly afterward, a petite mulata came in and sat at the table next to mine. I loved her body and invited her over to sit with me. She reminded me of a girl who worked in my office when I lived in LA some years ago. Who I always wanted to fuck.

Being that Cuba is taking the global downturn especially hard, prices for the ladies is quite reasonable. She started at 50cuc, I countered at 40cuc, she agreed. Then I asked if I could get a second pop, she said I could for 50cuc. I jokingly asked if I could get a third pop for 60cuc, she actually thought about it.

Yey-something was really good in bed. She had that little mulata body that I like so much. And wasn't shy about sharing it while seeking her own pleasure.

I sent Yey-something on her way with 55 well earned pesos and called it a night at 5am.

Second Day: Now THAT'S Customer Service

On the second day, I woke up late and made coffee. The owner of the house kept coming in and out of the apartment to see what I was doing. I asked her what she needed, to which she replied she was keeping an eye on me. I asked why, she said I was American and she wanted to make sure everything would be ok with her house. I told her the US had stopped giving a shit about Cuba 40 years ago and she needed to relax. Just then the doorbell rang and it was Tony from Casaparticular.org. I had brought him some medicine and he'd dropped by to pick it up. I asked him to check the neurotic ***** that owned this casa or to find me another place. He had a short conversation with her and she went back into her room.

Tony and I chatted for a while and made plans to meet later and go out. Then I went to La Roca for lunch.

While having lunch, I noticed a hot waitress walking around. I finally crossed glances with her and gave her a flirtacious glance. She walked over and asked if I needed anything, I told her she was really cute and asked what time she got off. She said 4pm. Which was two hours later. I asked her if she wanted to meet me then, she told me to give her my phone number and she would call later. I gave her my Cuban cell and had written it off as a blow-off.

I went back to my casa and took a nap. I was woken by my cell phone shortly after 4pm. I was groggy and didn't remember giving her my number for a minute. She asked me if I wanted to see her, I said of course. She said she could come to my casa, but would need me to give her a little gift. I told her fine.

She arrived shortly afterward and came in. She was wearing street clothes at this point. I had hoped to strip her uniform off, to no avail.

She asked what little gift I planned to give her, I returned the question. She asked for 60cuc, I said that was expensive, she asked again how much my gift would be, I said 40cuc, she countered with 50cuc and we had terms.

Honestly, I have no idea what her name was or is for that matter. She gave me a decent uncovered blowjob, followed by acceptable sex. When she left, I went back to sleep until Tony called later to make plans to pick me up.

Second Night: A Friend of A Friend

Tony came by and picked me up at 10pm and we went to the Nacional to meet my friend Yamil and his wife for coffee.

He told me about a club I should check out named La Cecelia in Miramar.

We arrived at La Cecelia in Miramar and I was immediately impressed. There were roughly 500 people at this outdoor disco. TONS of hot working girls, and great live music.

Tony and I found a table and sat down for a while. Had a few drinks and watched the show. Once the show was over, we started the interview process. There were some very pretty girls in play this particular night and I tried to interview as many as I could. Most were in the 50-60cuc range. I finally found a winner in Dyanna. I negotiated 2 pops for 60cuc. We were off to my casa.

When we arrived, there was some back and forth about paying before or afterward. She finally gave in and got undressed.

Dyanna and I jumped in the shower togither and rinsed off, as it was very hot at the disco. Once she got undressed, she looked so good I had to go down on her. After a few minutes, she returned the favor and then slid me in. She had a tight, wet box and I went at it for a while. I finally blew on her stomach and handed her my shirt to wipe off the leche. Back into the shower she went.

A short break and I was back at it. I pounded her for a good half hour, but couldn't get a nut. I finally gave up and paid her 70cuc for the beating. We sat on my bed for a while chatting until she got up and put her clothes on. While she was putting on her lipstick, we were playing around and I felt like giving it the old college try again. So I pushed on my bed, pulled one pant leg off of her, and fucked her hard for about 4-5 minutes before I found the elusive leche.

A pretty girl and a great sport.

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[Jonesie]

At some point, I'll figure out how to attached photos with the report.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Havana is hot as fuck in August. But the mongering is fucking excellent.

Been thinking a couple of minutes on how to reply. Tough. Thing is, it would take more solid evidence for me to call anyone a liar, so instead I am going to say thanks for the report and congratulations for being able to work Cuba in a way that no other tourists can.

We all know that Cubanas are scarred sh!tless for talking to foreigners. But you just wave them over by the dozen in broad daylight in stores and on the street? And they stand in line there to talk to you?

As usual, every single report in here gets recommended as a report of distinction. If the purpose of that label is that newbies to Havana can get a realistic idea of how it is to be there, then I totally disagree. For some odd reason you seem to be the only tourist in the world that Cuban girls don't run away from, but if people go expecting them to stand in line in broad daylight, they will be disappointed.

I am dumbfounded. The last 2000 reports in here have pretty much all had one thing in common: That Cuba and Havana is hell to monger in and that 99 out of 100 girls (except for the hookers in the clubs) are scarred to talk to foreigners. But here comes a report from someone who thinks Havana is heaven for mongering. Strange.

It's not the Cuba I see 4-5 months a year when there. Perhaps you tripped in the airport on arrival and fell into a timemachine that took you 10 years back.

[El Grande]

Thanks for the report Jonesie.
I totally understand TG's doubts though, but if you speak Spanish and know how things go over there its just the way you have to do it. Speak to the hotties you meet no matter where you find them and you'll be surprised what you'll get.
BTW Don't refer to the amount of posts. I doubt that Jonesie is a Newbie to Cuba...
I do it the same way over there, I just don't overpay them with 50 $ :-)

[Jonesie]

Been thinking a couple of minutes on how to reply. Tough. Thing is, it would take more solid evidence for me to call anyone a liar, so instead I am going to say thanks for the report and congratulations for being able to work Cuba in a way that no other tourists can.

We all know that Cubanas are scarred sh!tless for talking to foreigners. But you just wave them over by the dozen in broad daylight in stores and on the street? And they stand in line there to talk to you?

As usual, every single report in here gets recommended as a report of distinction. If the purpose of that label is that newbies to Havana can get a realistic idea of how it is to be there, then I totally disagree. For some odd reason you seem to be the only tourist in the world that Cuban girls don't run away from, but if people go expecting them to stand in line in broad daylight, they will be disappointed.

I am dumbfounded. The last 2000 reports in here have pretty much all had one thing in common: That Cuba and Havana is hell to monger in and that 99 out of 100 girls (except for the hookers in the clubs) are scarred to talk to foreigners. But here comes a report from someone who thinks Havana is heaven for mongering. Strange.

It's not the Cuba I see 4-5 months a year when there. Perhaps you tripped in the airport on arrival and fell into a timemachine that took you 10 years back.I've been to Cuba 44 times in the last 3 years. I lived there to learn Spanish in 06. I've written about 20 travel reports on Cuba alone. But my guess as to our differences in experience is a combination of Looks, Spanish, and understanding of the Havana street. I'm a fairly young, decent looking guy in good shape who speaks (Cuban) Spanish and is never away from Havana more than a month at a time.

Now. In many of my reports, you won't be reading the times I approached a chica and she refused to aknowledge me. But as I'm the author of this report, I will choose which parts are relevant. But I assure you, every part is true.

[Smokers Rule]

I have only been to Cuba twice, so take my 2 cents for what it's worth . . .

I agree with Travelling Gring about girls being scared. Both of the times I was there, the girls I was with were very conscious of the police and being seen with me. It is a pain in the butt not because you have to worry about hiding from the police but because you can't in most cases go out with Cuban girls to places like restaurants, bars, etc.

This is not to say, however, that you should not go to Cuba. Aside from the difficulty of traveling there as an American, it is a great sex tourism destination in my opinion. The prices are low, the Cubanas are willing, and it's an interesting thing to do.

This is also not to say that you shouldn't talk to Cubanas when you're there. This is where I need to improve. Jonesie chats them up, and that's the secret to his success. I'm sure he talks to a lot more girls than he reports about; i.e., his reports contain only success stories. You have to put in the work to get the payoff.

So, yes, girls are scared of the police. But, no, that doesn't make Cuba a bad place to monger. I was not in Cuba 10 years ago, but I don't doubt that the Cuba of today would be a major dissappointment to someone who was there 10 years ago.

Bottom line: If you're a newbie, definitely go to Cuba. Just know that it's no Costa Rica or DR.




For some odd reason you seem to be the only tourist in the world that Cuban girls don't run away from, but if people go expecting them to stand in line in broad daylight, they will be disappointed.

[Member #4167]

Been thinking a couple of minutes on how to reply. Tough. Thing is, it would take more solid evidence for me to call anyone a liar, so instead I am going to say thanks for the report and congratulations for being able to work Cuba in a way that no other tourists can.Tg,

In some ways Jonesie's report is realistic, and in other ways it is a fantasy

Here is how Jonesie's report should have read:

Even though I speak spanish fluently and I am a brave and bold monger, not afraid to talk to any girl, I walked around Havana for days trying to hook up with a cute non-pro shopgirl/waitress. Most of the shopkeepers I saw were pretty ugly, the cute girls having gotten married and emigrated long ago. The real cute girls were the students, walking in the street. Not a single one would talk to me. Over 3 days I did strike up a substantial conversation with 6 cuties. I negotiated a price and they agreed to meet me at my place later on. Of the 6 that agreed to meet with me, only 1 showed up.

Finally, I wised up and decided to go only with hardened pros. You wouldn't believe that is such hard work to find a hooker, but I finally found a few good lookers, after paying 10CUC admission to get into the hooker bars. To bring these girls home it cost me 100CUC.

REALITY: You can get anything you want in Cuba if you have enough money. You can land hardened pros in Cuba if you are willing to pay 100, 70, 50, 60 CUC. Cuba has changed in that it is no longer a buyer's market. It is very much a seller's market.

Jonesie made it seem all too easy.

As for getting "non-pros". As for myself, I speak spanish well enough. And I have am not afraid to talk to any girl. This definetly helps. I walked around Havana for days hitting on every cute girl I saw, trying to hook up with a cute non-pro. You can find them, but it is a lot of hard work. It is a lot of rejection and a lot of nos. Kind of like dating in the states, except in Cuba you can score with 18-25 year olds.

In some ways, Jonesie's story is believable, in other ways, it is not.

It makes me very suspicious that Jonesie is touting casaparticular.0rg. So I take what he says with a grain of salt.

Cuba to me is overhyped bullsh1t. It over promises and under delivers. You find this in EVERY ASPECT of Cuba. I have read of mongers paying $35CUC to rent a private casa particular, only to have the owners move back in with them. Or you arrive, having agreed to pay 30CUC for a luxury Casa Partiuclar on 10th street, to be told (at 10PM) that it is no longer available and that for the same price they will substitute a dump.

I understand that in the 3rd world, one can expect poor customer service and delays and substitutions. For this reduced quality, I expect to pay reduced prices. Cuba is 3rd world mongering at 1st world prices.

In other places in latin america I can get nice, a beachfront hotel room for $16. Or a middle of the road place for $10. Plus, I can bring any girl back I want without having to bribe the guard.

Cuba has perfected the art of gypping the customer. The slogan in Cuban "This is what we have, take it or leave it. The price is not negotiable". This slogan is repeated consistently with chicas, with transport and with lodging.

Even if you speak spanish fluently it will still take hard work, alot of rejection and a lot of mongering time to land a non-pro catch. Y go to Cuba when you can go to other mongering destinations and get la1d far more cheapily and for far less hassle?

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[Member #4167]

The guide then went outside to look for a girl and he came back with Leila. She was a 21-year-old mulatta, very tiny and skinny, no kids. She was very scared about the police and didn't want to go out after that. We went back to the casa for 50 CUC TLN.Nice report, SR !!

50 CUC = 60 US.

In cuba - difficult to find a girl on your own. They are there, but they are too afraid to talk to you. This is why you need a go-between and the go-between drives up the prices. The go-between gets 15, she gets 20 and the police get 15 to stay quiet.


The next night, I was determined to see other sights. I went to El Turquino on the top of the Habana Libre. Entrance 10 CUC for non-hotel guests, but you could easily bypass this by lying. Maybe this was a bad night, but all I could see were tourists. None of this top model nonsense. Now, maybe this was all on the second floor of the Haban Libre and not the top floor, but I thought that the really good action was on the top floor. Not so much. But pretty panoramic view of the city and a good band. I stayed there for a couple of hours and left. Drinks expensive (6 CUC for cuba libre).This was typical for me.


GENERAL IMPRESSIONS

I like going to Cuba, but it's a pain in the butt for an American. The added cost of buying multiple plane tickets, the nervousness about passing U.S. customs, the potential for having your money stolen or losing your money and having no way of getting more money. It's all a pain. Also, not being able to have the things your used to is not fun, paying up the butt for calling the U.S. sucks, and paying 5 CUC at hotels for (relatively slow) Internet access makes you cringe. Oh, yeah...Cuba is hot too.

But there is something romantic about Cuba, and the Cuban women really do know how to please. Compared to a number of years ago, things are expensive. But on the whole, Cuba is still a better value than alternative places such as Costa Rica. I will return at least once a year until the embargo is lifted.I agree with you about the hassles, the stresses, the overcharging and the inconveniences. Yes, Cuba is romantic, yes, Cuba is beautiful, but after awhile, all the bullsh1t overcharging gets to you.

As I long have said "Go to Cuba to see the country, but not for mongering"

You compare Cuba to CR and DR. Perhaps Cuba is cheaper, but CR and DR are some of the more expensive places in Latin America. While they are cheaper they offer first world convenience and ease of mongering. So it is not a fair comparison. Cuba is more expensive than a lot of other places.

Nice report, SR - keep them coming

[Vedado Fun]

Great report Jonsie. I have no problem believing your story 100%. I don't think you tripped at the airport and bumped your head like TG suggests. Some guys do very well in Cuba while others do poorly. It all depends on what type of person you are and what type of approach you use.
It's true what TG says about Cubans being scared when it comes to talking with foreigners and both you and them should be careful. The Police are really cracking down on chicas who spend a lot of time with foreigners.

A report from Cubanet:
HAVANA, Cuba, August 25 (Aini Martín Valero, ALAS , www.cubanet.org) – Seven young women were given prison sentences of two to four years last week, accused of pestering tourists, a euphemism for prostitution.
According to friends of the women, they were arrested in various Havana night clubs where they were accompanied by foreign tourists.
Their mass trial was held August 21 in the Regla district.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelling Gring
For some odd reason you seem to be the only tourist in the world that Cuban girls don't run away from, but if people go expecting them to stand in line in broad daylight, they will be disappointed.
It's not the Cuba I see 4-5 months a year when there. Perhaps you tripped in the airport on arrival and fell into a timemachine that took you 10 years back.

[Jonesie]

intro:

when your a guy known for going to cuba often, people ask you to bring back things. cigars, rum, cigars, a che t-shirt, cigars, coffee, cigars, cuban art, and cigars.

a while back, i started bringing cigars back for my cigar smoking friends to subsidize my travels to the island. things have gotten carried away and these days i'm pretty much taking back enough cigars to give a small country cancer.

long story-short, this trip i pretty much turned all my buddies who went with me into cigar mules to quench the nicotine thirst of all my friends.

first night: candy store closed

after we were finally finished being interrogated by cuban immigration, we were off to our casa and the weekend ahead.

after checking in at the casa, we headed out for a reliable option, only to find out the candy store had closed for remodeling. so we went to a late night disco called delerio habanero. it's basically a ***** house with music in the background. once we got into the disco, the lighting was dim and it was hard to tell the pretty from the pretty-ugly. blazers talked to a girl for a minute and decided to keep shopping before making a decision. while we were at the table, we kept interviewing girls who would come up and ask to sit down with us. we even interviewed the ones who sat down without asking.

at some point, i decided the girl blazers was first talking to was the one who most fit what i was in the mood for this evening.

daimaris

daimaris was a really sweet girl and gave great service. she said she'd only been in the game for a couple of weeks. which judging by her great attitude was believable.

second night in havana: havana hustle

on the second day, we went to the campo for a non-mongering bbq. the food was good, and i'm glad to have had the experience, but not something i'd repeat.

once we got back, we went to salon rojo. it was surprisingly slow that night compared to prior visits. nonetheless, we were able to make suitable arrangements for companionship. the good doctor is what we'll call the guy who went with blazers and i on this trip. he's actually a doctor in costa rica and a pretty nice guy. the good doctor and i found a couple of friends (sisters) that fit the bill of what we wanted that evening.

sayandra has an amazing body and provides amazing service. albeit not for as long as you may agree on, but great nonetheless.

the hustle:

the good doctor and i had negotiated all night rates. which was understood to mean they left after breakfast (and the wake up session).

i had agreed to give sayandra 120cuc for all night and for the services provided.

after the first round, at about 3:30am, the good doctor's girl got a call from her friend/mother/pimp saying her daughter was sick, and she would need to leave and attend to the matter. and of course, my girl couldn't think of letting her "sister" brave the situation alone. but of course, they needed to be paid for the entire time.

funny enough, the good doctor, being a doctor, offered to go and offer assistance. i can't remember what exactly was said in rapid spanish, but the jist was that an actual medical doctor wasn't needed, just the agreed fees and a little taxi money.

i may not be a doctor, but i've been going to cuba long enough to know this hustle. so i grabbed the good doctor before he got his wallet and explained that in addition to our sincere concern, these girls would be getting half of the agreed amount for less than half the time/services provided. there was some back and forth, but eventually the ladies were off to attend to their daughter/neice/pimp with 60cuc apiece. cuba never get's boring.

foolish generosity:

on day three, the good doctor and i headed over to change money. while we were at the desk, i ran into an american couple from arizona. they didn't know that banamex was part of citigroup, and that their cards didn't work in cuba. they were in the process of booking a flight to cancun to get money. they only had two days left on a five day vacation, so i told the lady to write me a check for $500 and gave her the equivalent in euros. this later came back to haunt me, as i ran out of money soon after and had to borrow money from the good doctor to finish my trip.

sure hope that check clears.

third night: if it's not broken.

on night three, we went back to salon rojo. it was back to form and there was more girls than the night before.

while we were at the table, we must have talked to about 15 girls. kind of like speed-dating, only for money.

i talked to a few girls, and then saw daimaris walking up. remembering how nice the session was before, i just elected to take her home again. i worked out an arrangement for all night, as i just love the morning nut.

daimaris didn't disappoint. she did me right at night, and again in the morning. she left at about 8:30 am after i punished her with morning wood. punished for what, i couldn't tell you.

last night ass:

on the last night, we all hung out and smoked cigars. blazers and the good doctor were calling it a night anticipating an early flight back to costa rica.

i thought about it, and then decided to go out and get some last night ass.

i walked around la rampa and stumbled by a little disco named coctel something. i saw a cute mulata and decided i'd deversify my trip. sorry for not getting a picture. i had my camera packed and it was only three hours before i had to wake up to leave. a well placed 40cuc.

again, thanks to blazers and the good doctor. great people for sharing the havana experience with me.

[BeersTerry]

Jonsie has written many a rivetting report on other forums. I always enjoy looking.........er reading them.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Well, as I have no prior experience with Jonsie on this or any other forum, I can not, like some of you, read anything else into a report than what is there in black and white. Or at least what that soums up to when I read it.

What I read is this: First time visitor to Havana, the capitol of a police state where girls are taken to the station and questionned for the entire night - if not forced to suck dicks on two fat, smelly cops - for just waiving to a foreigner, rolls into town and suddenly all the girls, by some divine stroke of magic, looses all their paranoia and fear and gets in line to be the next to fuck him.

We all new that most cubanas are dying to find a foreign guy. You can see it in their eyes when they walk by. 99 out of 100 hotties you see will give a decent looking foreign man a look that says 'I wish we could get to know eachother... Maybe we'll see eachother when the Castros are gone'. But stop and talk to you in the street? hardly...

If what I SHOULD have read was what Waterboy translated, then I would understand. And that report deserved the recommendation, because that report sounded like Cuba.

I still do well in Cuba. Well, everything is relative. I can get fantastic ass, but it takes me an insane amount of work. It takes lots of rejections and scarred girls, and when they are interested, it takes dating and charming and... And that is for a mid-thirtees, Spanish-speaking, Cuba-experienced guy who by any standards is, well, lets just say, not at all scarry to look at...

So, if Jonsie speaks perfect Spanish, has been many times, have the street game that it takes and has just forgotten to tell us about all the rejections, then the picture is clearer for me. As it stands now, someone would read it and think 'Hey, that is something for me - Joe Rookie who can say 'gracias' and have never been to Cuba. I'm gonna swim in hot girls down there'. And it would be sad if a report like that lead to those kind of assumptions.

Since I am heading over for a couple of months in Cuba in a few weeks, I would love it if things looked like that now. That would be like returning to the 90's. But I doubt it has changed for the better since my last visit in spring.

[El Rey De Pollo]

But perhaps we'd be better off waiting around for Jonsie to clarify... Especially if this report was edited for litterary purposes to not include hazzles and girls who walked away.

[Sexmetv]

Havana is hot as fuck in August. But the mongering is fucking excellent.

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OK I read this report twice and I didn't find it so hard to believe.. boy goes to Cuba with money and meets girl in Cuba who needs money; boy gives girl money and girl allows boy to do adult things to her...the range of prices quoted seem reasonable (although the 35CUC is likely an outlier) but other than that sounds like a pretty good time (it's not like he claimed to bang these girls for free)...I agree that the girls in Cuba are apprehensive w.r.t foreign men, but it isn't like they see a foreigner coming and they go screaming off into the night particularly if a little subtlety is used. And yes Cuba is waaay to freaking hot in the Summer, which is why I avoid it if I can, but every time I get out, it just pulls me back in.

[Smokers Rule]

Much is being made about nothing. TG knows a lot about Cuba and is a great contributor to this forum, but he tends to pick apart posts. He's really a nice guy, but his direct posting style is offputting. Hence the back and forth here. I say leave it be and move on. We've all said what we think.


OK I read this report twice and I didn't find it so hard to believe.. boy goes to Cuba with money and meets girl in Cuba who needs money; boy gives girl money and girl allows boy to do adult things to her...the range of prices quoted seem reasonable (although the 35CUC is likely an outlier) but other than that sounds like a pretty good time (it's not like he claimed to bang these girls for free)...I agree that the girls in Cuba are apprehensive w.r.t foreign men, but it isn't like they see a foreigner coming and they go screaming off into the night particularly if a little subtlety is used. And yes Cuba is waaay to freaking hot in the Summer, which is why I avoid it if I can, but every time I get out, it just pulls me back in.

[Jonesie]

Much is being made about nothing. TG knows a lot about Cuba and is a great contributor to this forum, but he tends to pick apart posts. He's really a nice guy, but his direct posting style is offputting. Hence the back and forth here. I say leave it be and move on. We've all said what we think.It does seem like some folks have an abundance of spare time. Or an axe to grind...

I suppose if I were drawing some sort of salary for posting trip reports, I'd be a little more objective towards this douche bag type criticism. But I don't. I put them up so guys who are considering going to Cuba might get an idea of what's available.

The fact is Cuba is a fantastic place to monger, but you have to approach Cuba on Cuba's terms. Many a monger has gone home to criticize the Cuban mongering scene because they tried to pound their square logic into Cuba's round system. Cuba isn't Tijuana.

I've been to Medellin several times in the last year and I live in Costa Rica. While each of these places have their own things to offer, none of the experiences can be drawn upon to approach Cuban mongering.

The truth is this board's format is not the easiest to post reports and pics to. An effort met with more reluctance knowing I'll have to listen to sewing circle type bickering every time I get back and post a report.

[Pelongera]

Well, as I have no prior experience with Jonsie on this or any other forum, I can not, like some of you, read anything else into a report than what is there in black and white. Or at least what that soums up to when I read it.

What I read is this: First time visitor to Havana, the capitol of a police state where girls are taken to the station and questionned for the entire night - if not forced to suck dicks on two fat, smelly cops - for just waiving to a foreigner, rolls into town and suddenly all the girls, by some divine stroke of magic, looses all their paranoia and fear and gets in line to be the next to fuck him.

We all new that most cubanas are dying to find a foreign guy. You can see it in their eyes when they walk by. 99 out of 100 hotties you see will give a decent looking foreign man a look that says 'I wish we could get to know eachother... Maybe we'll see eachother when the Castros are gone'. But stop and talk to you in the street? hardly...

If what I SHOULD have read was what Waterboy translated, then I would understand. And that report deserved the recommendation, because that report sounded like Cuba.

I still do well in Cuba. Well, everything is relative. I can get fantastic ass, but it takes me an insane amount of work. It takes lots of rejections and scarred girls, and when they are interested, it takes dating and charming and... And that is for a mid-thirtees, Spanish-speaking, Cuba-experienced guy who by any standards is, well, lets just say, not at all scarry to look at...

So, if Jonsie speaks perfect Spanish, has been many times, have the street game that it takes and has just forgotten to tell us about all the rejections, then the picture is clearer for me. As it stands now, someone would read it and think 'Hey, that is something for me - Joe Rookie who can say 'gracias' and have never been to Cuba. I'm gonna swim in hot girls down there'. And it would be sad if a report like that lead to those kind of assumptions.

Since I am heading over for a couple of months in Cuba in a few weeks, I would love it if things looked like that now. That would be like returning to the 90's. But I doubt it has changed for the better since my last visit in spring.Good points.

The last time I was there I saw an extremely attractive young woman outside Habana Libre walking down the street minding her own business and very much ignoring me suddenly get questioned by several police immediately after tourist-looking me smiled at her.

Even if I had it as easy as Jonesie--and I don't doubt he's telling the truth--I would not represent Cuba as such easy pickens.

For one thing, it is not easy for every man, obviously. So unless I see a certified foto of Jonesie, I'm skeptical I can shag something as fine as that gorgeous woman he uploaded. Truly, Jonesie, my compliments.

More important, it is extremely hard for providers there now. Their "workplaces" are under constant surveillance.

Seriously, there are cameras outside the clubs filming girls as they get into the cars with guys. So if you pick-up a non-pro take her to Galliano's Casa de Musica, she will get her picture taken, either in the club or getting into the cab.

Approaching a non-provider in the wrong context, such as near Habana Libre, can get her booked and questioned.

So I would hope mongers are careful and discrete for the chicas sake. imho.

[Jonesie]

But perhaps we'd be better off waiting around for Jonsie to clarify... Especially if this report was edited for litterary purposes to not include hazzles and girls who walked away.TG,

I know you have comparable experience in Havana, but your approach comes across as pugnacious.

I don't chase girls down La Rampa or in Parque Central because I know the police presence makes it the worst place to talk to girls and expect them to talk back. If I do troll the Malecon, it's mostly for nostalgic purposes. You won't find a lot of that in my reports because I stopped doing it because it stopped working at the percentages I prefer.

I've often said it, and I'll say it again. You can drop me off in Centro or Habana Vieja and usually within an hour, I'll be in some shitty apartment with no running water, a ladder for stairs, a dog under the bed, or some other "only in Cuba" scenario fucking some hot chica for 30-40cuc. I do this because this is something only Cuba offers. You can't pull that off in Medellin or Costa Rica.

Guys who bash Cuba because they miss the Veradero/Special Period days, or because there's no termas should get over it. Cuba is still one of the best places on earth to monger if you're willing to play by Cuba's rules. Which means girls won't talk to you on the street if there are cops around. It also means more often than not, the girl will want to take a seperate taxi because she doesn't want to cut sugar cane for a couple of years for being in the car with you when you're pulled over.

Cuba has plenty wrong with it, but it has plenty right. I won't apologize for knowing how to get what I want within the system...

[El Rey De Pollo]

If you guys want to call my style bickering or tell me I have an offputting way of participating, cool, so be it. I am active in here, I respond to the 10-15 plus weekly requests on advice and casas and what have you that are in my inbox weekly. Likie Jonesie, I do not get paid.

Heck, in Havana I have even, on occassion, walked up to some poor monger I saw in the street there striking out, and helped him to be in bed with a hot mulatta within 30 minutes. I consider muyself someone who likes to help, and I feel sorry for all the single men I see in Havana getting nothing, because they thought they had taken a trip to somewhere you could just walk around and pick girls off the trees.

I think I have about as much luck in Havana as Jonesie. Although I rarely pay. But thats with more than a year of experience in town. And to me, Jonesies report came off as a fantasy for the average monger, and not a realistic scene for anyone else than true Cuba-experts with months if not years of experience on top of fluent Spanish, good looks, youth, game and much more. And I think a clarification lacked.

But it's all good. I get few to no thank yous for the info I provide, I rarely even get a thank you after I spend half an hour answering some strangers Cuba-requests in my mailbox. I can live without that even though I find the attitude in here often too selfish. 'Give me some info and fuck off' seems to be the mindset of many posters.

But I also have a temper and some pride, and if the result of me questionning the 'report of distinction' tag for such a report is that I have to take these insults, that's just not cool.

And so I will definately consider doing what almost every single Cuba-veteran on these boards has done before me. Take my clothes and say adios muchachos. Just not worth it.

[Jonesie]

If you guys want to call my style bickering or tell me I have an offputting way of participating, cool, so be it. I am active in here, I respond to the 10-15 plus weekly requests on advice and casas and what have you that are in my inbox weekly. Likie Jonesie, I do not get paid.You came at me sideways on the first report I copied to this forum, was it that surprising I'd return the favor?

I don't write fiction. I have no motive to impress anyone on this board beyond the "thanks for the info, it helped" payoff.

I'll be in Havana next weekend, why don't you get over it and let me buy you a bucanero.

[Jonesie]

Please reference these pics to Report #2113

[Jonesie]

Please reference these pics to report #2113

Sayandra

[Golds]

I like the reports of Jonesie very much, well written, if all the guys here would write like him this board would be a goldmine, HOWEVER, the following quote is a little over the hill regarding $$$.

"I had agreed to give Sayandra 120CUC for all night and for the services provided"

That's way too much, yes she could be very nice and give a very good service but for a cuba expert like you, and I don't doubt about it you are, this is too much, in my opinion every girl in salon Rojo, el Turquino, Habana delirio are a waste of time and money, most of the girls are soooo controlled by their chulo, that it is definitly very annoying.

I agree with Jonesie during daytime centro Habana or Habana vieja you have a lot more for less money.

[Pelongera]

This sounds more like the Cuba I know:




Cuba to me is overhyped bullsh1t. It over promises and under delivers. You find this in EVERY ASPECT of Cuba. I have read of mongers paying $35CUC to rent a private casa particular, only to have the owners move back in with them. Or you arrive, having agreed to pay 30CUC for a luxury Casa Partiuclar on 10th street, to be told (at 10PM) that it is no longer available and that for the same price they will substitute a dump.

I understand that in the 3rd world, one can expect poor customer service and delays and substitutions. For this reduced quality, I expect to pay reduced prices. Cuba is 3rd world mongering at 1st world prices.Except that, for me, its art (including the way in which the women walk) and politics are extremely fascinating in an aesthetic sense, lifting it well above other third world experiences.

I pity those tourist who travel to Cuba and fail to appreciate the beauty in Cuba's effort to distinguish itself.

The government sees it that way too, which is why it thinks it can get away with First World prices, i.e. because its distinction is as fascinating as anything in Kansas.

And I'd agree.

[BeersTerry]

It is also a little more advantageous to go in August. Alot of Cubans do not work in August as it is too hot. They are at the beach, at the clubs and on the streets. Fun times can be had at Cuban beaches in August.

[Bichu]

So, is Abel and Kiki still around at Partagás, Jonesie..

B

[Deep Dive]

Adding my 2 cents to the accessability of chics in Cuba. While what jonesie says is very believable. I'm not convinced on the pricing. True there are an abundance of girls to be had. Everywhere, however it all depends on what type of girl you are interested in. I break them down into categories, totally professionals (pros), professional-amatuer (pro-am) and totally amatuer (am). If a mongerer goes to havana, all they have to do is go to any "tourist" club like la cecilia that jonesie mentioned. However, this club has only pros working there, and be prepared to start the negotiations process at 100cuc, they are more less hot. Off course the later the night goes, the lower the price is, by then all the hot ones are accounted for. The pro-am market is found on the streets of Cuba. If a chick gives you the eye on the street, she is more or less is interested for some fee. Now if you see a really hot chic, no eye contact, I can assure you she has a boyfriend/husband. That doesn't mean you shouldn't give it a try. But from my experience, they will blow you off. They probably have at least 10 guys hitting on them per day and they are already being taken care of by their boyfriend/husband, so what reason would they have to go for a tourist without transportation, living in a shitty casa particular, and risking the police. Now the amatuer market is kind of a dating process like anywhere else in the world, except in Cuba it takes a few dates to score. Off course the hotter the chick is, the more difficult the score becomes. I've been to other latin countries and still think that the quality, variety, you can have anything from black to Chinese and just overall sexuality is the best in Cuba. They just know how to fuck in bed. I think it's all that dancing that translates into incredible gyrations in the cama. And lastly, I don't think TG's posts at all sound like bickering, his posts are very informative and educational. Keep it up. Envious, you're going for a few months.

Good luck on the mongering!

[El Grande]

It is also a little more advantageous to go in August. Alot of Cubans do not work in August as it is too hot. They are at the beach, at the clubs and on the streets. Fun times can be had at Cuban beaches in August.

I had my best times in late July and August. In July/August the colleges and universities are off and the chicas are out to party!


Guys who bash Cuba because they miss the Veradero/Special Period days, or because there's no termas should get over it. Cuba is still one of the best places on earth to monger if you're willing to play by Cuba's rules. Which means girls won't talk to you on the street if there are cops around. It also means more often than not, the girl will want to take a seperate taxi because she doesn't want to cut sugar cane for a couple of years for being in the car with you when you're pulled over.

I agree with some other fellow mongers here, without knowing the signs and the going Cuba may appear like a dead fish. But well said! Sure, there are (almost) no pimped chicas with fake boobs, but if you know the dos and don'ts, speak some Spanish and above all don't monger where 100 yumas fight for a single average chica, Cuba is still the place to be.

[Member #4167]

I don't chase girls down La Rampa or in Parque Central because I know the police presence makes it the worst place to talk to girls and expect them to talk back. If I do troll the Malecon, it's mostly for nostalgic purposes. You won't find a lot of that in my reports because I stopped doing it because it stopped working at the percentages I prefer.Agreed that La Rampa/Malecon are the pits for picking up chicks. I learned that the hard way. However the only scores I made were on the Malecon and off La Rampa.


I've often said it, and I'll say it again. You can drop me off in Centro or Habana Vieja and usually within an hour, I'll be in some shitty apartment with no running water, a ladder for stairs, a dog under the bed, or some other "only in Cuba" scenario fucking some hot chica for 30-40cuc. I do this because this is something only Cuba offers. You can't pull that off in Medellin or Costa Rica.So true - you have to go outside the touristy areas to get better success.

I agree with you - this is very doable in Cuba. You may have to spend a 1/2 day approaching chicas to find one and then 1-2 hours time trying to find an illegal casa particular - after all this hassle, yes, you can land that kind of scenario. And you are right "only in Cuba" Its a big pain in the ass, but a fun and exciting adventure.

I miss the days when I went to Varadero, spent 1-2 hours looking found an 19 yo hottie, I hardly ever got rejection due to paranoia, and I invited her back to my casa particular and fucked her. None of this having to run around finding an illegal CP.

Having said that, when I went back in 07 08 - I had NO LUCK in Havana Vieja. Actually the only successes I had in La Habana were a 22yo non-pro hottie on the Malecon and a 24yo non-pro hottie I met on a side street off La Rampa.

Thinking there was too much paranoia - I went out to the Oriente. Holguin had paranoia, but not as bad as Habana. Not alot of chicas there maybe I saw 4 white girls who were clearly "on the market" - I met a non-pro and she was definetly scared. We had to go thru the rigamarole.

In other provinces: No girls in Bayamo nor in Cienfeugos nor Baracoa wanted anything to do with me. So it seems this is a country-wide paranoia with some cities more paranoid than others and different paranoia levels depending on day of week.


Guys who bash Cuba because they miss the Veradero/Special Period days, or because there's no termas should get over it. Cuba is still one of the best places on earth to monger if you're willing to play by Cuba's rules.I am not fond of brothel/Terma action. I prefer the semi-pro/non-pro. That is why I Like Cuba. To my knowledge Cuba did NOT have brothels even in the Special Period. I liked Cuba in the 90's because so many normal everyday girls were available and you could score alot easier because there was no paranoia and you could bring them to your CP to fvck them - so it was convenient.


It also means more often than not, the girl will want to take a seperate taxi because she doesn't want to cut sugar cane for a couple of years for being in the car with you when you're pulled over.You are misinformed about them needing separate taxis "more often than not". In Cuba it is 100% OK for a cubana to share a cab ride with you or to get into your private car. I have NEVER had a girl request a seperate taxi. In fact, sharing the car makes it easy to talk to the girl - because they wont bust a girl in car with a foreinger. I have never heard of the seperate taxi thing - that is silly.

[Member #4167]

When your a guy known for going to Cuba often, people ask you to bring back things. Cigars, Rum, Cigars, a Che T-shirt, Cigars, coffee, Cigars, Cuban art, and Cigars..What about Cigars, do you bring those back too? ;) he he

Jonesie - you are what they call in Cuba a "Mulo" - a "Mule" - do the Cuban Emigracion people ever give u a hard time?

[Member #4167]

It is also a little more advantageous to go in August. Alot of Cubans do not work in August as it is too hot. They are at the beach, at the clubs and on the streets. Fun times can be had at Cuban beaches in August.You know, BT y El Grande - I never considered that. In the 90's I went in July & August and I had a fantastic fvckin time. In 07/08 I went around Nov Feb. I never considered the time of the year to be a big factor.

[Bimbo Boy]

But it's all good. I get few to no thank yous for the info I provide, I rarely even get a thank you after I spend half an hour answering some strangers Cuba-requests in my mailbox. I can live without that even though I find the attitude in here often too selfish. 'Give me some info and fuck off' seems to be the mindset of many posters.

But I also have a temper and some pride, and if the result of me questionning the 'report of distinction' tag for such a report is that I have to take these insults, that's just not cool.

And so I will definately consider doing what almost every single Cuba-veteran on these boards has done before me. Take my clothes and say adios muchachos. Just not worth it.

Hello Travelling Gring.
I understand how you feel, as I have experienced the same.
My policy now is : I only give private info to people that have contributed positively to the forum.
It would be a loss if you leave us.
Kind regards.
B.B.

[Member #4167]

And so I will definately consider doing what almost every single Cuba-veteran on these boards has done before me. Take my clothes and say adios muchachos. Just not worth it.Hey TG - I value your contributions and take your experiences as 100% accurate and believable.

Cuba is like the elephant was described by the three blind men ("It's a rope, it's a tree, it's a leaf")

I went to Cuba several trips in mid 90's in the summer months. In mid 90's - I did very well - this is because I am well-dressed & well-mannered - therefore was very popular with the ladies. MY spanish sucked back then. Still, I could go to a new town and in 4 hours of mongering have a non-pro back into my CP. It took work, but the women who rejected me was because they had a boyfrriend. All of the island it was easy - I went to varadero, met a girl, took her to dinner and then back to my CP and fvcked her. She had to go home and I cried because she was embarrased to ask me for money. I bought her a ticket and gave her sizeable parting cash. Met a differnet girl the next day and repeated the process. My main problem was how to get rid of her. Usually I could bang a different girl every nite. Sometimes, you have to go to a new town in order to get rid of the ex. It just seemed so simple - meet a girl, take her to dinner, romance her and fvk her. You paid her and gifted her what you wanted. (Believe me this is not the least expensive way to do things, hookers are less expensive than GFs). I was generous and took trips all over the countryside and ate in pretty good restaurants. I am a fun guy I like to fish and dive and go on trips and explore things, and I am told that I am good company.

I returned for several trips recently in 07 08. and found that things have drastically changed. the jevas have become scared since the crackdown against foreigners with cubanas. What used to take me 4 hours now takes me 2-3 days. I have to work my game alot harder. I speak spanish pretty well, so that helps.

At one time I thought that this was because I was 10 years older and I might just be "too old" for the 18-25 age group. As an experiment, I decided to approach and date women who were 10 years older than my normal target set (18-25). they are even more difficult to bed, so I modified my range and went back to the 18-29 year olds.

the modern Cuba. If I find an attractive girl who is willing ot risk her freedom to be with me, then I am going to stick with her, because ti is so much of a pain in the ass to find another one. I treat them very well, and stick with them, unless they start turning into thieves or otherwise show that they consider me a chump - or they don't treat me as a firend.

The members of this forum, BeersTerry, TG, and many others have been extremely helpful in helping me learn the protocol. I even met Digital Curry in Holguin who really knows the game in Cuba. Despite what I learn, it seems that if I had a little more game, or I knew a few more tricks, or knew the best spots to go to I could get back to the easy-fcking days of cuba of the mid 90's. Well, it aint gonna happen. I have been all over the island, and most spots have just as much paranoia.

Of course, I can point to exceptions to every generalization that I just made. I have found good times in the most unpromising of places and I have found bad times in the "best" places. For example, in Havana 07-08, I only hooked up with girls from Malecon or La Rampa. (IN mid 90's Malecon would have 100's of cute women, nowadays, maybe you see 4 or 5, and 1 or less are unattached - u talk to her and the Lagra come up and ask for ID).

What is consistent about Cuba is that it is inconsistent.

There is no rhyme or reason in Cuba. there is no method to this madness. There is no secret. It is like mastering a Jedi Master light saber - it must be mastered blindfolded and it takes a lifetime.

Cuba is spotty. Some times u have a good time and other times u don't. Plain and simple.

PLus, the girls seem flakier. In the past if you had a date, the girl would be there. Now, you expect them to flake out on you.

I have come to expect one thing: I must lay the girl on the same day I meet her. If she has to go away to do something, than forget it, it will be difficult to reconnect. MAybe that's why aug/july are better months. These girls are on vacation as well, so it allows for no cock-blocking interruptions.

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[Sexmetv]

TG,

I know you have comparable experience in Havana, but your approach comes across as pugnacious.


I will be in Havana this Thursday and yes I will complain about the heat. I'm glad to hear the economic reality has softened the women up a little always makes for a better time (god I'm so disgusted with myself for just saying that...ok not really lol!) that said, I love the GFE treatment I get in Havana so I always end up giving a little something extra.

I agree that the Medellin (which I will returning to in October) experience/approach is much different from the Cuba approach - in Medellin you fish with a big ass fishing trawler and in Cuba it's single fishing line...but you will catch fish in Cuba...anyhow not sure when you're in Havana next but maybe our paths will cross.

In any case you keep writing your reports, because I like to read them and just like everything else if some people don't find them credible they don't have to read them.

Cheers

[El Grande]

You are misinformed about them needing separate taxis "more often than not". In Cuba it is 100% OK for a cubana to share a cab ride with you or to get into your private car. I have NEVER had a girl request a seperate taxi. In fact, sharing the car makes it easy to talk to the girl - because they wont bust a girl in car with a foreinger. I have never heard of the seperate taxi thing - that is silly.

Thats right for normal chicas. But following you in a separate taxi is a common practice of the the pros that are already known to the police, like for example the ones that hook in El Salon Rojo.

[Pelongera]

First Night: Candy Store closed

After we were finally finished being interrogated by Cuban Immigration, we were off to our casa and the weekend ahead.

After checking in at the casa, we headed out for a reliable option, only to find out the Candy Store had closed for remodeling. So we went to a late night disco called Delerio Habanero. It's basically a ***** house with music in the background.

........

After sending my mercado girl on her way with some well earned overtime pay, I took a nap, a shower, and went to my favorite place on earth. The Candy Store. I arrived at La Canitasa little early, it was only 11pm. Only a few girls were there and I decided to grab a bottle of water and a table.What streets are La Canitas and Delerio Habanero on?

And again my compliments on the quality of your ladies, Jonesie. They're better even after a second look.

[El Cubanito]

TG,

I know you have comparable experience in Havana, but your approach comes across as pugnacious.

I don't chase girls down La Rampa or in Parque Central because I know the police presence makes it the worst place to talk to girls and expect them to talk back. If I do troll the Malecon, it's mostly for nostalgic purposes. You won't find a lot of that in my reports because I stopped doing it because it stopped working at the percentages I prefer.

I've often said it, and I'll say it again. You can drop me off in Centro or Habana Vieja and usually within an hour, I'll be in some shitty apartment with no running water, a ladder for stairs, a dog under the bed, or some other "only in Cuba" scenario fucking some hot chica for 30-40cuc. I do this because this is something only Cuba offers. You can't pull that off in Medellin or Costa Rica.

Guys who bash Cuba because they miss the Veradero/Special Period days, or because there's no termas should get over it. Cuba is still one of the best places on earth to monger if you're willing to play by Cuba's rules. Which means girls won't talk to you on the street if there are cops around. It also means more often than not, the girl will want to take a seperate taxi because she doesn't want to cut sugar cane for a couple of years for being in the car with you when you're pulled over.

Cuba has plenty wrong with it, but it has plenty right. I won't apologize for knowing how to get what I want within the system...


The Cuba you describe was the Cuba that I knew between 1999 to 2004. After 2004 the Cuba scene started to change. Yes, back in the days (between 1999 to 2004) I would go to one Bar right off the pier and I would be fucking some young thing for 50 to 60 CUC. Today, you can still get that action but again you have to know where to go and look. There are many many spot in Havana. I will not reveal them because I have my reasons as to why.

I do agree with you there is still alot of bollo to be had in Havana or in Cuba general, but it is not as easy as in back in the days.

Newbies, Cuba is still a fun place, but do not expect to go to the Rampa or El Malecon and pick up a chica from your Tourist Rental car. It is not going to happen. But if you look away from these spot into other neighborhood, there is plenty and I mean plenty of Bollo to be had.

El Cubanito

[Deep Dive]

Yeah I remeber those days. There were chicks literally standing 5 feet from each other on the malecon, going price was 15-30 USD, and no convertion fee! Then after the pope visited. Think it was 2000, made a big stink about the puta scene. Castro cleaned it up overnight.

[Jonesie]

What streets are La Canitas and Delerio Habanero on?

And again my compliments on the quality of your ladies, Jonesie. They're better even after a second look.La Canitas is on the second floor of the Habana Libre hotel. Delerio Habanero is upstairs in the theatro nacional in plaza de revolucion.

[El Chico]

I know I'm couple days late with the Jonesie debate, but I felt like adding my 2 cents. I think everything he said is perfectly plausible. Obviously these are the highlights and not a minute by minute review of his trip. About a year ago I gave a store girl my number and she called me later as well.

I think an important distinction to be made is that there are different types of foreigners in Cuba. If you are a pasty white middle-aged guy wearing shorts, sandals and a baseball cap walking alone on the Malecon o La Rampa, you stick out like a sore thumb and chances are a cop is hanging back a block watching "you" just to see what girls will speak to you. So of course girls are not going to want to say 2 words to guy like that because of the trouble they will get in.

If you're a younger guy that speaks Spanish and sort of fits in (and I'm not saying pass for a Cuban) girls in regular situations (i.e. not in a place were prostitutes are known to be like La Rampa) will be willing to talk to you.

For me, the best way to meet non-pros is to meet that first regular girl and ask her if she has any friends and then ask those friends the same, and so on and so on. I don't even bother with pros anymore as there a plenty of regular girls interested if you can properly network.

[The Pooh]

If you are a pasty white middle-aged guy wearing shorts, sandals and a baseball cap walking alone on the Malecon o La Rampa, you stick out like a sore thumb and chances are a cop is hanging back a block watching "you" just to see what girls will speak to you. So of course girls are not going to want to say 2 words to guy like that because of the trouble they will get in.So thats my problem.

[La Isla]

For me, the best way to meet non-pros is to meet that first regular girl and ask her if she has any friends and then ask those friends the same, and so on and so on. I don't even bother with pros anymore as there a plenty of regular girls interested if you can properly network.

All Cuba travelers, memorize this. The best piece of advice I've seen on the Cuba boards. Having traveled to Cuba over 30 times over the course of 10+ years, this is THE best way to operate in Cuba......for sure. It especially holds true now.

[Deep Dive]

Also agree 100%, you need to find a regular girl and work out a deal with her that for every friend intro, you will compensate her some way or another. A few problems however, you need speak spanish and I mean cuban spanish and many times the friends they bring along are just not doable. I've used this strategy many times, until I've exhusted a bario then it's time to move on to next one.

[El Grande]

I know I'm couple days late with the Jonesie debate, but I felt like adding my 2 cents. I think everything he said is perfectly plausible. Obviously these are the highlights and not a minute by minute review of his trip. About a year ago I gave a store girl my number and she called me later as well.

I think an important distinction to be made is that there are different types of foreigners in Cuba. If you are a pasty white middle-aged guy wearing shorts, sandals and a baseball cap walking alone on the Malecon o La Rampa, you stick out like a sore thumb and chances are a cop is hanging back a block watching "you" just to see what girls will speak to you. So of course girls are not going to want to say 2 words to guy like that because of the trouble they will get in.

If you're a younger guy that speaks Spanish and sort of fits in (and I'm not saying pass for a Cuban) girls in regular situations (i.e. not in a place were prostitutes are known to be like La Rampa) will be willing to talk to you.

For me, the best way to meet non-pros is to meet that first regular girl and ask her if she has any friends and then ask those friends the same, and so on and so on. I don't even bother with pros anymore as there a plenty of regular girls interested if you can properly network.

Well said!

[Jonesie]

Intro:

I met up with Diversity for lunch in Costa Rica. We flew into Havana with a friend of mine I'll call DocNuerotic and his fiance. After getting out of Customs, securing housing for Doc and the misses, we arrived at our casa to meet up with Copabrasil, who arrived earlier in the day and was accompanied by a lovely Candy Store girl.

First Night - A Sure Thing

Having lost the opportunity to draw first blood, I called a reliable companion from past trips over. She was able to bring a friend for Diversity and we were able to start the trip off with a bang.

Novi came over with her friend and rocked me twice in the night and again in the morning. Stuck around for breakfast, and left with a well earned 120CUC.

Day 2 - Mami Chula

Day 2 was spent running around with DocNeurotic, the wife, and Diversity and Copabrasil. I kept with tradition and pulled a random girl off the street. She was great in the sack and earned all 30CUC she cost me. I didn't have my camera on me, sorry guys.

After getting back to the house, the guys wanted some delivery, so I called Novi and told her to get some friends over for the boys. She brought over a couple of girls and a pool party ensued. It was generally a good time, and the bros got to handle business without having to venture out in the August Havana heat.

I had not slept much the night before and was dragging ass, so I stayed in and let the bros storm Havana without me. From the pictures they showed me the next day(and hopefully you soon), they did quite well.

Day 3 - Once a Ho...

After finally getting a good nights sleep, I woke up on day 3 and had breakfast with the guys. True to form, the fellas wanted more delivery. So I called Novi and told her the fellas wanted some different girls. She arrived with some (somewhat) fresh meat and another pool party ensued. I did Novi again, I asked her if she would be spending the night, she said she had family in town and couldn't. So off she went with 50 of my not so hard-earned CUC.

After dinner, we headed over to Las Canitas (Candy Store) and surveyed the talent. Every single girl we had over to the house was there, including Novi. I didn't even ask why she lied, I knew.

I picked a cute Mulatta and took her home. I didn't have time to take pics, sorry guys...

Day 4 - Brown Sugar

After waking up and watching DocNuerotic smoke all our cigars, he and Diversity headed into town to do some shopping. I needed a nap. After a short nap, I thought of a girl from a past trip and called her over.

Yusi came over and gave me some lovin'. It was a great way to spend 50CUC.

Last Night - Pretty Young Thang

Diversity and I joined DocNuerotic and the misses for dinner on our last night. Doc had been drinking rum all day and was pretty lit by the end of dinner (and 2 bottles of wine). When we finally got his silly ass home, Diversity and I set out to make some memories for the last night. We walked the Malecon and found a couple of pretty prospects that just didn't seem to work out. So we went by Salon Rojo to see how things were going. This place was hoppin'. Salon Rojo on a Sunday night was wall to wall quality ass. I found Nayla almost right away and had to wait for Diversity to find a suitable choice. Once that was done, we were off to the house.

Nayla is 19 and has a body only a 19 year old could have. Tight little waist, cute round little ass, and a perfect 34" natural rack. Nayla was wise beyond her years (at least in bed) and provided a wonderful way to end my trip before having to fly home a few hours later.

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[Jonesie]

A few more pics.

[El Rey De Pollo]

I was gonna keep my mouth shut, but with more brag-reports coming in, I am going to add a few comments to the many posts during the last days. When I am done with that, I will be taking a long vacation from ISG. I plan to make it last forever, but I promise nothing. So you need not worry about me interrupting and disagreeing with these show-off reports anymore. I'll let you guys pump up eachothers cojones without interupting.

“Stuck around for breakfast, and left with a well earned 120CUC.”
***
You’re off your rockers. If I mongered in Havana I would be pissed with people driving up the prices by paying 2-3 times the standard fare.


“If you are a pasty white middle-aged guy wearing shorts, sandals and a baseball cap walking alone on the Malecon o La Rampa, you stick out like a sore thumb and chances are a cop is hanging back a block watching "you" just to see what girls will speak to you. So of course girls are not going to want to say 2 words to guy like that because of the trouble they will get in.”
***
How do you figure? Prostitution is illegal in Cuba. Period. A Cubana with a foreigner is an obvious suspect. The police don’t give a flying fuck whether the foreigner is a 30 year old Brad Pitt look-a-like or a 60-year old potbellied, balled American. Luckily I am still in the fairly young, okay looking category, but that doesn’t exclude me from being someone dangerous for girls. Girls do not get in more trouble for being with an old foreigner vs. a young foreigner. The only thing that matters is if the foreigner speaks Spanish and knows the ways of Cuba as well as the manor in which to speak to cops – if the latter is the case, a foreigner can get away with lots. If a girl trusts that you can stand up for her and explain that the relationship is genuine, ultimately convincing the cop that this relationship did not commence today, then the chances of her wanting to spend time with you is multiplied by approx. a thousand – compared to the rookie Cuba-traveller who doesn’t know how to handle it if a cop walks up.


“For me, the best way to meet non-pros is to meet that first regular girl and ask her if she has any friends and then ask those friends the same, and so on and so on. I don't even bother with pros anymore as there a plenty of regular girls interested if you can properly network.”
***
What kind of non-pro cubana would want to be your she-pimp; fuck you first then hook you up with her friend? During the years I have spent in Cuba, I have never used that tactic. I have been with amigas of girls I have been with, but not with the aid of the girl I am with. I admit, it’s an interesting tactic for the cynic, absolutely, but I really don’t see it as the secret key to dating in Cuba. Maybe the girls you meet are more promiscuous than the ones I meet? The girls I meet usually fall in love, and it would be pretty awkward to then ask her: ‘Hey, got some amigas I can fuck?’ And would you really call a girl like that a regular girl? I don’t know…


” I think everything he said is perfectly plausible. Obviously these are the highlights and not a minute by minute review of his trip.”
***
Yes, it’s as plausible as if I wrote that I walked around SOWETO, Johannesburg at night and told three guys I saw hanging on the street that they were faggots and I didn’t get hit once by them. I just left out the 20 guys who beat the crap out of me.

This board is not about narrative journalism. This board is about honest, useful reviews. Not editing out to make great reading, so everyone will give you kudos for being one hell of a guy. At least, I thought it was.

I consider myself among the best to work Havana, and I know people who have perfected the art even more. None of them, nobody, gets all smiles and phone numbers. Even the best of the best will get rejected at least 70-80 percent of the time. Be that when trying to make eye contact or when actually asking a girl to come home with you.

Except the now famed Jonesie of course. Rumour must be spreading around the country. Girls are right now standing in line at the Astro stations to travel to Havana for a chance to hook up with this foreigner.


“Hello Travelling Gring.
I understand how you feel, as I have experienced the same.
My policy now is : I only give private info to people that have contributed positively to the forum.
It would be a loss if you leave us.”
***
People want to be fooled. This is why unrealistic, show-off reviews will always be supported. Because people want to dream. People who know Cuba are aware of the hard work it takes – even if you’re young, good looking, Spanish speaking – to pick up quality girls in Havana. Other people will want to believe that Cuba is paradise for random sex with hot girls. But the result will be that they travel there and experience a mongerers nightmare. Glad I am not responsible for feeding fake illusions.

And more on subject: All the people that knows Cuba are now mostly interacting by PM's because the public boards are full of guys who are more interested in pumping eachother full of testostorone than in filing realistic, usable reports.


“I like the reports of Jonesie very much, well written, if all the guys here would write like him this board would be a goldmine.”
***
I agree. Very well written. Good sci-fi. It would be a goldmine of useless, well-written novels. If that’s the purpose of the board, I do know better writers though, and would stick with a book.


"I had agreed to give Sayandra 120CUC for all night and for the services provided"
***
Jesus Christ superstar. Most guys can fuck 3 or 4 good looking girls for that money.


“Newbies, Cuba is still a fun place, but do not expect to go to the Rampa or El Malecon and pick up a chica from your Tourist Rental car. It is not going to happen. But if you look away from these spot into other neighborhood, there is plenty and I mean plenty of Bollo to be had.”
***
Newbies, if you want to have success in Cuba, forget about these kinds of reports and listen to people like El Cubanito. He is one of the few Cuba-veterans who knows the game who is still popping by once in a while although rarely these days.


“I'll be in Havana next weekend, why don't you get over it and let me buy you a bucanero.”
***
Thanks. I’ll pass. I see your types every time I am in Havana, and those are not people I share beers with. I laugh at them waiving big money at the hookers at the clubs, then move on. So would probably be more comfortable sharing a bucanero with one of the hairless, stray dogs in Centro Habana.


“Guys who bash Cuba because they miss the Veradero/Special Period days, or because there's no termas should get over it”
***
I despise termas almost as much as Varadero, so you got the wrong end of my critique. And you never answered how many ‘no’s’ you edited out. It’s uninteresting now. You don’t do reports that would help people on avoiding no’s and scared chicas. The way you act, you can't compare anything to anything in Cuba. It's a moot point. Any country is good for mongering if you pay 3-4 times more than the going rate or half a year of wages for banging a mediocre hooker. Go to New York, and you can have most girls in any club if you offer them 30,000 dollar. Same goes for Toronto, Madrid, Paris, Stockholm, Tokyo. It's actually beyond being a mood point.

Me, I don't consider myself a show-off. I can honestly say that I don't have the finances to ruin one country after the other with my money. Nice for you that you do.


“So off she went with 50 of my not so hard-earned CUC”
***
Okay, so now we know why you act like a drunk Russian newly-rich mobster when you’re in Havana.

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All that said, if you want to throw around 100 CUC-bills and more for taking home average looking hookers, you are of course breaking out of any kind of monger-league. I don’t monger myself, I stick to free sex, but can only do so because I spend months there and have time to date. But I keep up with prices from friends and from ISG of course. So when these girls are used to being offered 20, 30, 40 or 50 max from guys with an interest in not starting a p4p-inflation in Cuba, you can of course do well. 100 CUC is 5 months pay for a heart surgeon in Cuba… I would probably say yes if some average looking, slightly overweight 45 year old woman offered me 50 or 70,000 dollars to go home and fuck. I am actually surprised that for 120 CUC you are not fucking the models from La Maison or Turquino, but just those worn out *****s from Salon Rojo. The going rate at the Rojo is, for your information, 80 for starters, but realistically 50 or 60.

That’s it for me. As I am obviously alone with my take on all of this. If the majority wants a board with well-written fairytales by guys who need other guys to tell them they have big balls, that is cool. But totally uninteresting for me. I critizised Jonesies report, to my surprise I was about the only one with that point of view. Thats cool. I was really surprised, as this was not the way I thought ISG was heading, but such is life.

I have never understood that editors note. Someone please tell me who puts that there? It’s odd: All the people who really knows Cuba and who give advice and do reports in here on a regular basis, never gets that note. But every time some guy comes around with a report like Jonesies, there is always an editors note. The result? Check out the reports of distinction-section for the worlds largest collection of useless reports on Cuba. Who does that help? Other than kids who want to jerk off to porn-novels? Well, the last part was rhetoric…. But who puts that editors note there? Jackson or regular users?

I am naturally disappointed to see many of the guys I thought shared my interest in ISG back up this BS. And with the latest report coming in from the same poster, I will not use that word without hesitation. Tell me, will one single person in the world be able to use anything from that report if they go to Cuba? I am like... Who cares who you fuck and how many you have in your pool.... If no one learns how the hell you got them there. That's my simple point. Sure, you're a big white man with tons of cash who can travel to a desperately poor country and offer these young girls money like they have never seen before - and outpay any other foreigner because you make money that is not hard earned. Good for you. Incredibly useless for me to know.

But hey, concensus seems to be that those reports are good. So you gotta take your hat and leave when there’s nothing more to say and when you're the minority. If everybody on the soccer field except you wants to play baseball, then go home with your soccer ball and let them play. Anything else would be pathetic. So I wish you fellows all the best in Cuba and elsewhere. Especially those of you that have respect for Cuba and for other tourists and are not just out to fuck the country dry and ruin it as fast as possible. And to all of you who think twice before posting clear full-frontal facial photos of the girls you meet there. In short, those with style.

Me? I’ll nurture my Cuba interest in real life Cuba and leave the bragging where I can avoid it easier than in Vedado: On ISG.

[Adinga]

Just returned from Havana in August. I've been to Cuba 8 times in the last 7 years and consider myself knowledgable.

Some Tips

1) Never go to Cuba of the mindset that your going to fuck more girls this trip than any vacation in the past.You are setting yourself up for a dissapointment. Since Cuba changes daily the mentality should always be change or die. Learn to adopt quickly and try to blend in.

2) Hook up with a Cuban who can make introductions for you.Let him bring girls back to your casa for drinks.I usually throw dinner parties.They need to feel relaxed and away from the police radar.The streets,Malecon, parks ect are not a great place to meet the girls.They are afraid of the police and will not speak to a YUMA in public

3) Cuban women like men to take control - if you dont they will shit all over you.This was my hardest lesson to learn.

4) Avoid the Disco pussy unless you have to get laid. Most of the girls are sneaky and unhanded and will try to get every last dollar out of your pocket.

5) Many girls start playing attitude games in the bedroom.Always negotiate price and the terms before you bring them back to the casa.If they play games throw thier ass into the gutter and tell them they can fuck Italians or Bahimians back at the club.

6) Never pay before the deed is done.

7) Cash is King in Cuba - not Credit cards

8) Cuba is expensive.

9) Never be to generous with money unless its for a special friend.The cubans dont like people who spend money like drunken sailors.Once your identified as easy money target the unrelentless begging will begin.They all want something so never let them know what you have.

10) What happens in Cuba stays in Cuba.

Dont get married to a Cubana .Most of these relationships fail.

Hope this helps

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[Jonesie]

I was gonna keep my mouth shut, but with more brag-reports coming in, I am going to add a few comments to the many posts during the last days. When I am done with that, I will be taking a long vacation from ISG. I plan to make it last forever, but I promise nothing. So you need not worry about me interrupting and disagreeing with these show-off reports anymore. I'll let you guys pump up eachothers cojones without interupting.Dude, it sounds like you need to take a break... That's some shit a jealous, fussy queen would write. God forbid any of us should actually enjoy Havana with you playing martyr with your Debbie downer rant.

I go on vacation to have a blast and tap as much hot Havana ass as I can manage. I've been there enough to know how to minimize the unpleasant shit and focus on having fun. Something it seems you've forgotten how to do. Do I still get hassled by the mosquito jinateros? Sure I do. But it's not the focus of my trip reports because I don't let it ruin my trip.

I'll continue posting reports about having fun with hot Cubanas regardless of how much it bothers you. If you need to take a break, by all means do so.

[El Cubanito]

I was gonna keep my mouth shut, but with more brag-reports coming in, I am going to add a few comments to the many posts during the last days. When I am done with that, I will be taking a long vacation from ISG. I plan to make it last forever, but I promise nothing. So you need not worry about me interrupting and disagreeing with these show-off reports anymore. I'll let you guys pump up eachothers cojones without interupting.

“Stuck around for breakfast, and left with a well earned 120CUC.”
***
You’re off your rockers. If I mongered in Havana I would be pissed with people driving up the prices by paying 2-3 times the standard fare.


“If you are a pasty white middle-aged guy wearing shorts, sandals and a baseball cap walking alone on the Malecon o La Rampa, you stick out like a sore thumb and chances are a cop is hanging back a block watching "you" just to see what girls will speak to you. So of course girls are not going to want to say 2 words to guy like that because of the trouble they will get in.”
***
How do you figure? Prostitution is illegal in Cuba. Period. A Cubana with a foreigner is an obvious suspect. The police don’t give a flying fuck whether the foreigner is a 30 year old Brad Pitt look-a-like or a 60-year old potbellied, balled American. Luckily I am still in the fairly young, okay looking category, but that doesn’t exclude me from being someone dangerous for girls. Girls do not get in more trouble for being with an old foreigner vs. a young foreigner. The only thing that matters is if the foreigner speaks Spanish and knows the ways of Cuba as well as the manor in which to speak to cops – if the latter is the case, a foreigner can get away with lots. If a girl trusts that you can stand up for her and explain that the relationship is genuine, ultimately convincing the cop that this relationship did not commence today, then the chances of her wanting to spend time with you is multiplied by approx. a thousand – compared to the rookie Cuba-traveller who doesn’t know how to handle it if a cop walks up.


“For me, the best way to meet non-pros is to meet that first regular girl and ask her if she has any friends and then ask those friends the same, and so on and so on. I don't even bother with pros anymore as there a plenty of regular girls interested if you can properly network.”
***
What kind of non-pro cubana would want to be your she-pimp; fuck you first then hook you up with her friend? During the years I have spent in Cuba, I have never used that tactic. I have been with amigas of girls I have been with, but not with the aid of the girl I am with. I admit, it’s an interesting tactic for the cynic, absolutely, but I really don’t see it as the secret key to dating in Cuba. Maybe the girls you meet are more promiscuous than the ones I meet? The girls I meet usually fall in love, and it would be pretty awkward to then ask her: ‘Hey, got some amigas I can fuck?’ And would you really call a girl like that a regular girl? I don’t know…


” I think everything he said is perfectly plausible. Obviously these are the highlights and not a minute by minute review of his trip.”
***
Yes, it’s as plausible as if I wrote that I walked around SOWETO, Johannesburg at night and told three guys I saw hanging on the street that they were faggots and I didn’t get hit once by them. I just left out the 20 guys who beat the crap out of me.

This board is not about narrative journalism. This board is about honest, useful reviews. Not editing out to make great reading, so everyone will give you kudos for being one hell of a guy. At least, I thought it was.

I consider myself among the best to work Havana, and I know people who have perfected the art even more. None of them, nobody, gets all smiles and phone numbers. Even the best of the best will get rejected at least 70-80 percent of the time. Be that when trying to make eye contact or when actually asking a girl to come home with you.

Except the now famed Jonesie of course. Rumour must be spreading around the country. Girls are right now standing in line at the Astro stations to travel to Havana for a chance to hook up with this foreigner.


“Hello Travelling Gring.
I understand how you feel, as I have experienced the same.
My policy now is : I only give private info to people that have contributed positively to the forum.
It would be a loss if you leave us.”
***
People want to be fooled. This is why unrealistic, show-off reviews will always be supported. Because people want to dream. People who know Cuba are aware of the hard work it takes – even if you’re young, good looking, Spanish speaking – to pick up quality girls in Havana. Other people will want to believe that Cuba is paradise for random sex with hot girls. But the result will be that they travel there and experience a mongerers nightmare. Glad I am not responsible for feeding fake illusions.

And more on subject: All the people that knows Cuba are now mostly interacting by PM's because the public boards are full of guys who are more interested in pumping eachother full of testostorone than in filing realistic, usable reports.


“I like the reports of Jonesie very much, well written, if all the guys here would write like him this board would be a goldmine.”
***
I agree. Very well written. Good sci-fi. It would be a goldmine of useless, well-written novels. If that’s the purpose of the board, I do know better writers though, and would stick with a book.


"I had agreed to give Sayandra 120CUC for all night and for the services provided"
***
Jesus Christ superstar. Most guys can fuck 3 or 4 good looking girls for that money.


“Newbies, Cuba is still a fun place, but do not expect to go to the Rampa or El Malecon and pick up a chica from your Tourist Rental car. It is not going to happen. But if you look away from these spot into other neighborhood, there is plenty and I mean plenty of Bollo to be had.”
***
Newbies, if you want to have success in Cuba, forget about these kinds of reports and listen to people like El Cubanito. He is one of the few Cuba-veterans who knows the game who is still popping by once in a while although rarely these days.


“I'll be in Havana next weekend, why don't you get over it and let me buy you a bucanero.”
***
Thanks. I’ll pass. I see your types every time I am in Havana, and those are not people I share beers with. I laugh at them waiving big money at the hookers at the clubs, then move on. So would probably be more comfortable sharing a bucanero with one of the hairless, stray dogs in Centro Habana.


“Guys who bash Cuba because they miss the Veradero/Special Period days, or because there's no termas should get over it”
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I despise termas almost as much as Varadero, so you got the wrong end of my critique. And you never answered how many ‘no’s’ you edited out. It’s uninteresting now. You don’t do reports that would help people on avoiding no’s and scared chicas. The way you act, you can't compare anything to anything in Cuba. It's a moot point. Any country is good for mongering if you pay 3-4 times more than the going rate or half a year of wages for banging a mediocre hooker. Go to New York, and you can have most girls in any club if you offer them 30,000 dollar. Same goes for Toronto, Madrid, Paris, Stockholm, Tokyo. It's actually beyond being a mood point.

Me, I don't consider myself a show-off. I can honestly say that I don't have the finances to ruin one country after the other with my money. Nice for you that you do.


“So off she went with 50 of my not so hard-earned CUC”
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Okay, so now we know why you act like a drunk Russian newly-rich mobster when you’re in Havana.

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All that said, if you want to throw around 100 CUC-bills and more for taking home average looking hookers, you are of course breaking out of any kind of monger-league. I don’t monger myself, I stick to free sex, but can only do so because I spend months there and have time to date. But I keep up with prices from friends and from ISG of course. So when these girls are used to being offered 20, 30, 40 or 50 max from guys with an interest in not starting a p4p-inflation in Cuba, you can of course do well. 100 CUC is 5 months pay for a heart surgeon in Cuba… I would probably say yes if some average looking, slightly overweight 45 year old woman offered me 50 or 70,000 dollars to go home and fuck. I am actually surprised that for 120 CUC you are not fucking the models from La Maison or Turquino, but just those worn out *****s from Salon Rojo. The going rate at the Rojo is, for your information, 80 for starters, but realistically 50 or 60.

That’s it for me. As I am obviously alone with my take on all of this. If the majority wants a board with well-written fairytales by guys who need other guys to tell them they have big balls, that is cool. But totally uninteresting for me. I critizised Jonesies report, to my surprise I was about the only one with that point of view. Thats cool. I was really surprised, as this was not the way I thought ISG was heading, but such is life.

I have never understood that editors note. Someone please tell me who puts that there? It’s odd: All the people who really knows Cuba and who give advice and do reports in here on a regular basis, never gets that note. But every time some guy comes around with a report like Jonesies, there is always an editors note. The result? Check out the reports of distinction-section for the worlds largest collection of useless reports on Cuba. Who does that help? Other than kids who want to jerk off to porn-novels? Well, the last part was rhetoric…. But who puts that editors note there? Jackson or regular users?

I am naturally disappointed to see many of the guys I thought shared my interest in ISG back up this BS. And with the latest report coming in from the same poster, I will not use that word without hesitation. Tell me, will one single person in the world be able to use anything from that report if they go to Cuba? I am like... Who cares who you fuck and how many you have in your pool.... If no one learns how the hell you got them there. That's my simple point. Sure, you're a big white man with tons of cash who can travel to a desperately poor country and offer these young girls money like they have never seen before - and outpay any other foreigner because you make money that is not hard earned. Good for you. Incredibly useless for me to know.

But hey, concensus seems to be that those reports are good. So you gotta take your hat and leave when there’s nothing more to say and when you're the minority. If everybody on the soccer field except you wants to play baseball, then go home with your soccer ball and let them play. Anything else would be pathetic. So I wish you fellows all the best in Cuba and elsewhere. Especially those of you that have respect for Cuba and for other tourists and are not just out to fuck the country dry and ruin it as fast as possible. And to all of you who think twice before posting clear full-frontal facial photos of the girls you meet there. In short, those with style.

Me? I’ll nurture my Cuba interest in real life Cuba and leave the bragging where I can avoid it easier than in Vedado: On ISG.

Man, do not let people like this guy influence you what you say and do in Cuba. Soon enough when some newbie goes to Cuba he or they will find out for themselves what has been said is true or just a bunch of bull.

For me I have been going there for the last 10 years on a steady basis. I ussually go 3 to 4 times a year.

Jonesies, man I would not pay 120 CUC for a girl like that. There are many, many more better bollos to be had for that kind of money. Travelling is right when he say that. Now, that you may have feeling for this girl and you give her that kind of money, then that is a different story. Jonesies, Let me ask you what would you pay for something like the girl in this pic? This girl will give you mind blowing sex, plus a great great Blow. She is also veri easy on the eyes and she is the type of girl that you can have great conversation with her up into the wee hours. How much would you pay for this girl.

[El Cubanito]

Just returned from Havana in August. I've been to Cuba 8 times in the last 7 years and consider myself knowledgable.

Some Tips

1) Never go to Cuba of the mindset that your going to fuck more girls this trip than any vacation in the past.You are setting yourself up for a dissapointment. Since Cuba changes daily the mentality should always be change or die. Learn to adopt quickly and try to blend in.

2) Hook up with a Cuban who can make introductions for you.Let him bring girls back to your casa for drinks.I usually throw dinner parties.They need to feel relaxed and away from the police radar.The streets,Malecon, parks ect are not a great place to meet the girls.They are afraid of the police and will not speak to a YUMA in public

3) Cuban women like men to take control - if you dont they will shit all over you.This was my hardest lesson to learn.

4) Avoid the Disco pussy unless you have to get laid. Most of the girls are sneaky and unhanded and will try to get every last dollar out of your pocket.

5) Many girls start playing attitude games in the bedroom.Always negotiate price and the terms before you bring them back to the casa.If they play games throw thier ass into the gutter and tell them they can fuck Italians or Bahimians back at the club.

6) Never pay before the deed is done.

7) Cash is King in Cuba - not Credit cards

8) Cuba is expensive.

9) Never be to generous with money unless its for a special friend.The cubans dont like people who spend money like drunken sailors.Once your identified as easy money target the unrelentless begging will begin.They all want something so never let them know what you have.

10) What happens in Cuba stays in Cuba.

Dont get married to a Cubana .Most of these relationships fail.

Hope this helps

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Great, great advice....I disagree with the marriage bit. I have seen and met people who have had God awful experience with marrying a Cubana. I have also met people who have been marry with a Cubana for 11 years now. Marriage is the same way everywhere it a crap shoot. One of my best buddies in the United States marry this woman in the Good old USA and thing seem good. The ***** went and got a 3 million dollar Insurance policy on my buddy and had him killed. Then we she got the Insurance Money gave the kids she had with my buddy to her Mother-In-Law and took off with the money. SHe has never been heard from again. How horrendous is that? On the flip side I have a very very good friend who is marry to a Cuban girl from Moa. They have been together now for 8 years and thing look great for them. As a man you have to analyse what you have and see what kind of woman she is. Do not think with the lizard brain. I hope this help you guys.

[Jonesie]

Man, do not let people like this guy influence you what you say and do in Cuba. Soon enough when some newbie goes to Cuba he or they will find out for themselves what has been said is true or just a bunch of bull.

For me I have been going there for the last 10 years on a steady basis. I ussually go 3 to 4 times a year.

Jonesies, man I would not pay 120 CUC for a girl like that. There are many, many more better bollos to be had for that kind of money. Travelling is right when he say that. Now, that you may have feeling for this girl and you give her that kind of money, then that is a different story. Jonesies, Let me ask you what would you pay for something like the girl in this pic? This girl will give you mind blowing sex, plus a great great Blow. She is also veri easy on the eyes and she is the type of girl that you can have great conversation with her up into the wee hours. How much would you pay for this girl.Novi was my favorite for many moons. 120cuc for amazing bareback sex that went all night and blended into the next day. I'd do it again in a second.

That's not the point here though. TG got his feelings hurt after digging into me thinking I was a rookie. People who have read my reports on other boards tried to politely correct him and he got sensitive on us. Now he's going on with the "goodbye cruel world, it's your fault I'm jumping" bit and won't let it go.

[Jonesie]

After over 30 trips to Cuba in 2 years, I'm coming to the conclusion dishonesty is part of the Cuban DNA.

What is undeniable is that Cuban women are some of the hottest women in the world in and out of bed. But Cubans in general consider grifting a national pastime.

I'm also under the conclusion that someone has convinced the Cuban population that they are smart and everyone else is dumb.

This trip, in a form of bored amusement, I decided to engage many of these would be swindlers and try my hand at reciprocity.

The results are as follows.

First Night. Out of Court Settlement

I arrived late at night in Jose Marti airport with several large bags containing everything from Car parts to baby clothes for friends from Miami to be given to relatives in Havana.

I was immediately waved into secondary aduana/customs. Where I was told to pay 200CUC tax on the goods I was "importing". When paying, I asked for a receipt and the lady at first refused. I told them I couldn't pay unless I could get a receipt for re-imbursement. After getting a supervisor involved, I was given a receipt and was on my way. My guess is that the undocumented payments throughout any given day are divided amongst the airport staff.

When I went to the cadeca/currency exchange window, I handed the lady 1, 000 Euros in 500Euro bills. To which I was given a receipt for 900 Euros and the exchange rate for 900 Euros. When I raised the issue, I was told to move to the side and recount. I refused and after some back and forth, was given the remaining funds.

On the taxi ride into Havana, upon arriving at my destination, when I handed the taxista 20CUC, he told me the rate was 35CUC. I told him that I take this trip every month and it's always 20CUC, and if he didn't think it was fair, he could call the police and I'd wait in my apartment until they arrived. He countered with 25CUC, to which I ripped a 5CUC bill in half and handed it to him.

Three attempts in an hour of being in Cuba.

I went and checked into my casa and took a shower. It was 1:00 am at this point so I went to Delerio Habanera to find some late night ass. I ran into a girl I'd taken on previous trips and figured I'd take the sure thing.

When leaving, there were only pirate taxis outside so I just agreed and off we went, at least I thought. When leaving, the taxista tried to turn into the back parking lot and take a different way. I explained to him that the street where we were on was the most direct route to my casa. To which he turned anyway. Of course, 100 meters into the back, unlit parking lot was a patrol car that waved us over. When the officers asked for our documents, I handed a photo copy of my passport and the girl and the taxista were asked to get out of the car. A few moments later, the taxista came over and explained that the police would press charges against the girl unless I gave him 20CUC to give the officers. I told him to have one of the officers come to the car and speak with me.

When the officer came to the car I waved off the taxista. I politely asked the officer if it was his birthday. He smiled and said yes, and that the 10CUC might buy him a proper gift. So I gave the officer his gift and he went over and returned documentation. When we arrived at my casa, the taxista told me that he would need to take the other 10CUC to the officers and that I should give him 15CUC total, 5CUC being for the ride. I gave him 5CUC and told him to have the officers come and speak with me. He kept insisting, to no avail.

It was at this point, I decided I would test the skill of every wanna' be hustler in Havana this weekend. But first, I needed some pussy.

Sayandra has been in a couple of my reports. She's a solid lay and she didn't disapoint this time. Albeit 10cuc more than I planned to spend.

Second Day. Action Figure

When I woke up the second day, I had some errands to run and went to Old Havana. I stopped by and dropped off some things to a friend's family and was walking back to calle Obispo to buy some gifts on my way home. While walking through the streets, I was summoned over by a mulatto claiming to have the best price for cigars. I walked over and went into his house. He showed me a group of cigar boxes that were poor fakes at best. I told him if he could bring them to my casa later that day, I would buy 5 boxes. To which he told me they would be 80CUC each. I told him to call me when he could bring them over. Of course, he asked to be paid first, to which I laughed and told him upon delivery.

I continued walking through Old Havana and was waived over by a guy about chicas. I told him sure, I was looking for a beautiful chica. He had me wait a few minutes while he scoured his neighbors for a willing participant. He came back after a few minutes with a chubby girl with acne. I asked him if it was his sister. Some rapid Spanish followed, to which I just walked off.

I walked down the Prado and saw a really cute mulatta sitting alone. Which in Havana means prostitute. I sat down with her and worked out arrangements. 30CUC for her and 10CUC for the casa. I followed her to a casa a block away and paid the 10CUC leche fee. I don't remember her name, but she had the body of one of those plastic action figures you see, and she gave me amazing head, followed by pretty hot sex. Not too bad for 40CUC. She did however, ask that I not include her face.

Second Night. Dine and Dash

After my would-be cigar connection left, I took a nap. When I woke up, I went downstairs to buy some juice and soda at the mercado across the street. While leaving, I saw this SMOKING morena with a friend walking near the entrance. I struck up a conversation and we were in the elevator going up to my casa. We worked out 60CUC, and she was worth it. She looked like a supermodel when her clothes came off and fucked me like she was competing in the olympics. When we were done, I asked her if she was hungry, she said yes. I took her to the Melia Cohiba second floor restaurant. Where she promptly ordered the most expensive item on the menu. Followed by a bottle of wine. I asked her what sauce came with that, to which she didn't know. A moment later, I told her "Before I forget, this is for you". Handing her 60CUC under the table. Then excused myself to go to the bathroom. I walked down the escalator, past the men's room, out of the hotel, and across the street to my casa. I hadn't intended for her to be part of the weekend's adventure, but she made herself a player. I had intended to take pics of her when we went back to my casa.

Sorry fellas.

Third Day. Malecon Madness

On Day three, I slept in and met a friend from New York who was supposed to call me the day before. I imagine he got sidetracked the same way I normally do walking around Havana.

I told him about my mission and he decided to play along. We hit a few bars on the Malecon. I'll explain how this works.

When you go into a bar on the Malecon, you can sit down and several Cubans will try and befriend you right away from the next table. Pretending to be fascinated about where your from, etc.

They will start ordering drinks and when the check comes, BAM! Their drinks found a way onto your tab. And instead of the 1 or 2 pesos they normally are, now they're 5CUC each. You are the only one in the room who isn't in on this scam.

My friend and I stopped at a few bars, had a soda each, and left 2CUC on the table and walked out. Usually to loud confusion "Excuse Me Fren", or "Senior". To which the reply is "they ordered them, they can pay for it".

We did this at a few bars until we finally got bored and went to dinner.

On the way to dinner, we jumped into a taxi and told him "La Guarida". A really nice restaurant in Centro Habana that I'd definitely recommend. However. While en route to the restaurant, the taxista took us to a private house "paladar" restaurant and told us, this is better. As tempted as I was to keep playing the grift game, I was hungry and had reservations at La Guarida, so we told him to take us to La Guarida. The taxista almost asked for the extra fare involved in returning us to our original destination, but let it go when we gave him the correct fare and left.

Conclusioin. Effort vs. Reward

After an entertaining weekend, I've reached the conclusion deceiving people, even scumbags, is a lot of work. More work than I'm willing to do on my weekend of pussy hunting.

There are very few places in Havana where the off switch for scamming tourists is applied. I know a few honest Cubans, but by far, they are the minority.

Cuba is still a great place to go tap some amazing ass and smoke some great cigars. But do so with the understanding EVERYONE is trying to shake you down for something and you can avoid a great deal of disappointment.

I'm looking forward to a few days in Medellin where most of the transactions are straight forward.

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[BeersTerry]

Jonsie, you're the best! (for the nice pics)

[El Rey De Pollo]

Don't flatter yourself more than you're already capable off in your reports, Jonesie. It's a result of several years of nothing but gringo show-offs on the Cuba-board posting useless reports. Not going to take a decission like that based on a single ridiculous report. I am now well aware of how amazing a guy you think you are, but you don't have that much power.

Keep it real, amigo.

[El Rey De Pollo]

And jelaous? Ehmmm..... I think it's bad style to go into negative details on other peoples pus$y, however disgusting it may be - but I'd rather stick my dick in a cup of warm coffee than into those worn out hookers from Salon Rojo and Delerio that you've posted. I don't share bollo with half the world including you and 200 retired Italians. Luckily, I can still score for free. Guess that leaves me with about 120 CUC extra to spend on mojitos. No wonder I get so pissed...

But let's drop it. You go on with your thing, and I'll go on with mine. Since concensus is against my call for objective, usable reports, I respect that. Look on the bright side: You and I would never get into a fight over a girl.

Final note: There are no less than 3 cameras in the inspection rooms at José Martí.

[Adinga]

Traveling Gringo keep up the good work.Since my Spanish is poor I usually have to pay 4 pussy.Some girls dont ask for money but I usually give them 25 plus taxi.I have a girlfriend in Havana but that gets boring.

Ive NEVER paid more than 50 CUC for pussy in Cuba.

Once the travel restrictions are lifted and the Americans come to Cuba prices will double and service will decline -- its already heading in that direction.The real gems are in the campo not Havana

[El Cubanito]

Novi was my favorite for many moons. 120cuc for amazing bareback sex that went all night and blended into the next day. I'd do it again in a second.

That's not the point here though. TG got his feelings hurt after digging into me thinking I was a rookie. People who have read my reports on other boards tried to politely correct him and he got sensitive on us. Now he's going on with the "goodbye cruel world, it's your fault I'm jumping" bit and won't let it go.

The power of that Bollo does it again. My friend and that is Havanera Bollo. Go try some Santaguiera and you will be paying 150 CUC and up. I myself will atest that I have a girl that I see every time I go to Cuba and yes she is from Santiago. The Power of Santiguera Bollo did me in. I do give her alot more money than I do to others.

[Adinga]

El Cubanito keep up the good work.

Since my spanish is terrible I have problems and usually pay.I have a girlfriend in Havana but that scene gets a little boring after 4 years of dating.

I pay for the convienence but thier have been alot of disappointments with the p4p - jineteras.Never have I paid more than 50 CUC for pussy in Cuba and never will.

What changes are you expecting once that Travel restrictions are lifted?

[Adinga]

ElCubanito -- Well done.

Unfortunatley I dont speak spanish so I usually have to pay.Since I dont waste time scouting the streets anymore I'll try the small cafes.The discos and clubs are pretty much all proffesional even the semi pros are dissapearing.

However I have Never paid more than 50 cuc for pussy in Cuba.

Anyone who does is a foll and by the way guys theres a global economic reccesion and Cuba is really hurting.There were no tourists in Havana 7 weeks ago.Its a buyers market.

[Jonesie]

The power of that Bollo does it again. My friend and that is Havanera Bollo. Go try some Santaguiera and you will be paying 150 CUC and up. I myself will atest that I have a girl that I see every time I go to Cuba and yes she is from Santiago. The Power of Santiguera Bollo did me in. I do give her alot more money than I do to others.Maybe some guys think paying 120cuc is a lot for a supermodel type girl who fucks you like a porn star a couple times a night and again in the morning. Maybe they can find better in the states.

[El Chico]

Also agree 100%, you need to find a regular girl and work out a deal with her that for every friend intro, you will compensate her some way or another. A few problems however, you need speak spanish and I mean cuban spanish and many times the friends they bring along are just not doable. I've used this strategy many times, until I've exhusted a bario then it's time to move on to next one.

I agree with you that Spanish is a necessity and it also helps to have a car. I have also turned down more than I've been with like you say. My technique is for them to call me when they have a friend and I tell them I'm busy but I can pass by to meet the friend. If she is doable, I make the time; if not, I say another day because I'm busy. I am very clear on the "type" of girl I want and don't ask them to bring just any old friend. After you turn down a couple they get the idea pretty quickly they can't pass off just anyone.

As for as the arrangement, I usually give $40 and I know the girl kicks back $5 or $10 to the girl that hook us up.

It's funny that you say you've exhausted the barrio because there are a couple of 4 block radiuses in Centro and Playa where I think Ive had sex with just about every hot 18-21 year old that lives there. It gets to the point where you have sex with 2 or 3 girls that are friends and they start to come over at the same time and you negotiate a group rate because ``its too expensive to pay for them all today`` jajaja

In my opinion, Cubans are already promiscuous and as long as you are decent looking, there are a lot of regular girls that don`t mind being with you for some extra cash as long as the risk and exposure is minimal.

I know TG is just going to freak out and rant this all BS (its not his fault he isn`t the player he think he is), but by using this technique my standards are now quite high. If I even suspect that one of the girls is a pro/semi-pro (and you can usually tell by the way she dresses or how she speaks to you) I usually pass. The girls I'm with don't have cell phones. jajajaja

However, I'll admit this technique is probably not the best if you are on a short time line.

[El Cubanito]

Traveling Gringo keep up the good work.Since my Spanish is poor I usually have to pay 4 pussy.Some girls dont ask for money but I usually give them 25 plus taxi.I have a girlfriend in Havana but that gets boring.

Ive NEVER paid more than 50 CUC for pussy in Cuba.

Once the travel restrictions are lifted and the Americans come to Cuba prices will double and service will decline -- its already heading in that direction.The real gems are in the campo not Havana

I personally DO NOT monger in Havana, unless the chica is a heartbreaker. But mostly I stay in the surburbs of Havana (Santa Fe, San Jose, Guines and town like that) or go to the campos in the campos there are some real nice, nice gems to be had. There is the little town past Santa Fe that the name forget me me now, but the talent in this town is mind blowing.

[El Cubanito]

Maybe some guys think paying 120cuc is a lot for a supermodel type girl who fucks you like a porn star a couple times a night and again in the morning. Maybe they can find better in the states.

We all will pay what we think a Bollo is worth. The only stuff that I am telling you is that there are better bollos to be had for that kind of money. But if you feel that this bollo is worth 120 CUC good man I am happy that you found heaven on earth. Keep fucking those great bollos and pay. To each his own

[El Rey De Pollo]

Quote: "In my opinion, Cubans are already promiscuous and as long as you are decent looking, there are a lot of regular girls that don`t mind being with you for some extra cash as long as the risk and exposure is minimal.

I know TG is just going to freak out and rant this all BS (its not his fault he isn`t the player he think he is), but by using this technique my standards are now quite high. If I even suspect that one of the girls is a pro/semi-pro (and you can usually tell by the way she dresses or how she speaks to you) I usually pass. The girls I'm with don't have cell phones. jajajaja"
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I am surprised I am the one here being accused as 'not being the player I think I am' since my grudge was exactly that this place has turned out to be a forum for insecure boys to act like players because they are paying crazy money for average looking hookers. Any fool can do that. Why fuck the same worn out prostitutes that the 70 year old Italians are doing? And even go bareback on them? Well, to each his own, that is right. But don't call me the one who thinks I am a big player.

I should be thrilled at the fact that you guys work like that as it leaves a lot more girls for those of us who go off the path and look for a different kind of cubana.

Now you go and tell us that you have fucked so and so many girls 'for some extra cash'. I'll let you know I haven't paid a centavo for having sex with a girl for the last 4 months I have spend in Cuba. I admit, I am not as desperately horny (and in a hurry due to short visits) as some guys seem to be, but it does add up to about the last 30 girls I have been with. And while - unlike some - I am not one to claim that every single one of them are - unquestionable for any other posters - supermodels, they are the cream of the crop within my own taste in girls. A bunch of them are in the photo section if you want to have a look at what a nice respectful attitude and a little charm can can take home - for free.

So for anyone not really into the bragging and acting like some idiot rich tourists who owns Cuba - i'll tell you what I think is one of the most well kept secrets in Cuba: If you make an effort to familiarize yourself with the country, and if you learn to tell the difference between a ho0ker and a regular girl, speak some Spanish on top, look decent etc - There are more girls in Cuba who are not ho0kers than there are ho0kers. Yes, it usually does take one or two dates to get them naked, but I'd rather not get laid on one or two nights than to pick up a bad attitude jinetera at a club and pay her. Then have sex with her knowing she does not want to. I am no saint, mind you, I have been with plenty of girls for money and I am not in any way against P4P (that would be stupid in here). I am just - at least at this period in my life - not interested in that scene. Not in Cuba at least. I find it totally uncharming, organized, overpriced and borring.

I am just saying there are PLENTY - we're talking thousands upon thousands - of hot young cubanas interested in being with a nice foreigner for free.

Of course, if you run around Salon Rojo and Café Cantante and wave your 100 CUC bills around, you're not going to run into any - you will be restricted to the ho0kers.

So if we do this quote again from El Chico:

"Quote: "In my opinion, Cubans are already promiscuous and as long as you are decent looking, there are a lot of regular girls that don`t mind being with you for some extra cash as long as the risk and exposure is minimal."

It is actually very spot on and one of the best statements I have seen in here for a while. If you take out the 'extra cash' bit.

[El Rey De Pollo]

El Chico, sorry for telling you to have a look at some of the girls I have posted in the past. I checked your history and you already know:

Quote: "As you seem to be pulling all the weight here, I don't suppose you have any more photos of that flaquita you would like to share?"

Quote: "Wow, that's what you call a nice flaquita! Where did you find her?"

I even answered you politely.

[Jonesie]

I personally DO NOT monger in Havana, unless the chica is a heartbreaker. But mostly I stay in the surburbs of Havana (Santa Fe, San Jose, Guines and town like that) or go to the campos in the campos there are some real nice, nice gems to be had. There is the little town past Santa Fe that the name forget me me now, but the talent in this town is mind blowing.One of my best friends has a car in Guines I take parts for, or actually catalina de guines. While I'd have to agree the talent in that shit town is crazy. It's still a boring shit town with way too many mosquitos. Just saying.

[Jonesie]

We all will pay what we think a Bollo is worth. The only stuff that I am telling you is that there are better bollos to be had for that kind of money. But if you feel that this bollo is worth 120 CUC good man I am happy that you found heaven on earth. Keep fucking those great bollos and pay. To each his ownAnother thing I might add is that I'm almost always towing around a newbie monger. So I'm a little limited as to where I can take them. But I still think Novi was worth 120 for TLN.

[Member #4167]

For me, the best way to meet non-pros is to meet that first regular girl and ask her if she has any friends and then ask those friends the same, and so on and so on. I don't even bother with pros anymore as there a plenty of regular girls interested if you can properly network.

[QUOTE=La Isla]All Cuba travelers, memorize this. The best piece of advice I've seen on the Cuba boards. Having traveled to Cuba over 30 times over the course of 10+ years, this is THE best way to operate in Cuba......for sure. It especially holds true now.I don't buy it. If you meet a girl, she will want to monopolize all of your time and all of your fula. Even if you make the relationship with her purely platonic, but still she's hoping to land you. Why would she want to refer you to a competitor who would take away her potential sugar daddy? This doesn't make sense.

[El Cubanito]

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[Member #4167]

“Stuck around for breakfast, and left with a well earned 120CUC.”
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You’re off your rockers. If I mongered in Havana I would be pissed with people driving up the prices by paying 2-3 times the standard fare.

"I had agreed to give Sayandra 120CUC for all night and for the services provided"
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Jesus Christ superstar. Most guys can fuck 3 or 4 good looking girls for that money.
I appreciate Jonesie's fotos. At first I was doubting Jonesie, but I NOW know why Jonesie was so successful: if one gives a girl 120CUC ($144 US) for a one nighter, I am sure that he will have cubanas flocking to his doorstep.

I believe Jonesie's success, and I am sure he may have left out the really tough parts. The rejections, the nos. Most girls wouldn't risk the loss of job, or the risk of prison time for even $500CUC. So the rejection is there. However at 120CUC, I am sure there is a lot less rejection.

I often hear the following rationale: "In the USA (or Europe) I would pay $300 for this girl, so what is a paltry $100? " The come back to this reasoning is: the monger is NOT in the US. Different customs for different lands.

Cuba used to be inexpensive. I believe those days are long over.

I can afford to overpay, but I do not want to overpay and feel like a fool. Plus, I do not want to drive up the prices for the rest of the guys (and for me).

While the average salary in Cuba may be very low, it does not tell the whole story. Cubans earn far more money on their side businesses, and by stealing goods from the government and reselling them on the black market.

Jonesie's report only confirms my own personal experience in Cuba. I now know why mongering is difficult and expensive in Cuba: A girl needs to make an extra $100 per month in Cuba. She can work one night at $100 CUC and make her nut, and this takes her off the market. I think Jonesie overpaid in some circumstances, but maybe not in others (Two girls for 120CUC for all nite seems to be the going rate).

I know what the Cubans pay for the wh0res, and it is significantly less, much less by an order of magnitude than what us Yumas pay. The main difference is that a girl will not go to prison for being a puta with a Cuban and she will go to prison for being a puta with a extranjero.

I will pay 30. 40 CUC for ST with a girl. (36-48 US). I am still paying more than the average cubano, because foreigners have to pay more to account for the increased risk to the girl. I just don't want to pay super ridiculously more like 120CUC.

I am generous, but I do that with clothes and medicines to poor families. Some 60 year abuela cannot go out and earn 120CUC a nite. While the amounts are trifling to me, the problem is that it ruins the market for the rest of the guys. It also ruins the market for me. This has been an ongoing complaint in Cuba. The girls can hold out for a month while waiting for the big fat sugar daddy to come along. In the meantime, if they don't work, they have the state provide their food, their medicine and health care and their shelter. These girls are only going out for extra money (mostly for their families). It's funny, but, in Cuba it seems that we give all the money to the relatively rich, $120CUC per nite Jinitera, but neglect the super poor. Cuba was promised to be a land of socialism, but all that winds up is great disparity in wealth.

I am all for generousity. Next time, give $40 CUC to the girl and give $80 CUC to some random poor family. Better yet, bring some medicines and clothing for the poor families.

Cuba has become a "Low Volume, High Price" place for P4P. The cuban attitude seems to be "maximize profit per transaction" rather than "maximize total profit." This is VERY much in line with communist-era Cuban ideology. They have plenty of time to wait out the customer and wear him down to make him pay a higher price. The fact that P4P is highly illegal also makes it a seller's market.

I hope Jonesie keeps posting. Maybe he can try to pay a little less and see what results he gets. This will be difficult, because news travels fast through Cuba. They all know he paid one girl $120 CUC, so the next ones in line will be expecting about the same.

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[Member #4167]

After over 30 trips to Cuba in 2 years, I'm coming to the conclusion dishonesty is part of the Cuban DNA.Nice report, Jonesie. Your last report was very consistent with my own experience with Cuba.

Conning the tourist is of course, a world-wide phenomenon, but the Cubans have perfected "conning the tourist" as an art form. They are experts at the game, and it takes a diligence to fend off the continual scams.

The government wages are super low and cheating your employer is the only way to survive. In Cuba, everything is outlawed. Pilfering from state stores, con games and grifting has become part of the national psyche of the cubano, but it is the fault of the economic system.

Pricing for all goods and services is inconsistent. In one town in Cuba I only wanted a plate of beans and rice. I was charged 50 centavos ( approximately 3 cents). If I return the next day, I will be charged 1 CUC (2500 centavos), the next day 1250 centavos. While all the mentioned prices are cheap, this is very stressful, because one is always at the mercy of the vendor's capriciousness. Cubans make up prices as the go along. This makes budgetting difficult. Cuban is not the place for the "bare bones" budget backpacker.

The entire tourist industry is owned by the government. This industry is the number one money earner of hard currency. A series of rules, regulations and decrees has given the government a monopoly on this industry and is designed to extract every last dollar of hard currency from the tourist's pockets. The cuban government has made strides towards letting some of this hard currency flow to ordinary Cuban, but of course they get a big piece of the action. If you want to rent lodging to a tourist, you better pay the monthly licensing fee of 200-400 CUC. If you want to haul tourists in a cab, you better have a special license or risk losing your cab. I do not entirely fault the vendors. Many of them would risk losing their house or car if they provide services to foreigners.

The government does not want tourists to mix it up with the locals. They want the tourist to go to an All Inclusive, ride in a tourist bus, stay in a tourist hotel and eat in tourist restaurants. When you go "off the reservation" be prepared to deal with inconvenience, hassle, inconsistent pricing and a lot of haggling.

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[Member #4167]

Anyone who does is a foll and by the way guys theres a global economic reccesion and Cuba is really hurting.There were no tourists in Havana 7 weeks ago.Its a buyers market.This does not matter. There were very few tourists when I went in 2007, and that was before the recession. I have also gone to Campos were I was the only tourist. It doesn't matter how many tourists are in town. While there are not many tourists, there are also not many girls out and about.

[Jonesie]

Quote: "In my opinion, Cubans are already promiscuous and as long as you are decent looking, there are a lot of regular girls that don`t mind being with you for some extra cash as long as the risk and exposure is minimal.

I know TG is just going to freak out and rant this all BS (its not his fault he isn`t the player he think he is), but by using this technique my standards are now quite high. If I even suspect that one of the girls is a pro/semi-pro (and you can usually tell by the way she dresses or how she speaks to you) I usually pass. The girls I'm with don't have cell phones. jajajaja"
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I am surprised I am the one here being accused as 'not being the player I think I am' since my grudge was exactly that this place has turned out to be a forum for insecure boys to act like players because they are paying crazy money for average looking hookers. Any fool can do that. Why fuck the same worn out prostitutes that the 70 year old Italians are doing? And even go bareback on them? Well, to each his own, that is right. But don't call me the one who thinks I am a big player.

I should be thrilled at the fact that you guys work like that as it leaves a lot more girls for those of us who go off the path and look for a different kind of cubana.

Now you go and tell us that you have fucked so and so many girls 'for some extra cash'. I'll let you know I haven't paid a centavo for having sex with a girl for the last 4 months I have spend in Cuba. I admit, I am not as desperately horny (and in a hurry due to short visits) as some guys seem to be, but it does add up to about the last 30 girls I have been with. And while - unlike some - I am not one to claim that every single one of them are - unquestionable for any other posters - supermodels, they are the cream of the crop within my own taste in girls. A bunch of them are in the photo section if you want to have a look at what a nice respectful attitude and a little charm can can take home - for free.

So for anyone not really into the bragging and acting like some idiot rich tourists who owns Cuba - i'll tell you what I think is one of the most well kept secrets in Cuba: If you make an effort to familiarize yourself with the country, and if you learn to tell the difference between a ho0ker and a regular girl, speak some Spanish on top, look decent etc - There are more girls in Cuba who are not ho0kers than there are ho0kers. Yes, it usually does take one or two dates to get them naked, but I'd rather not get laid on one or two nights than to pick up a bad attitude jinetera at a club and pay her. Then have sex with her knowing she does not want to. I am no saint, mind you, I have been with plenty of girls for money and I am not in any way against P4P (that would be stupid in here). I am just - at least at this period in my life - not interested in that scene. Not in Cuba at least. I find it totally uncharming, organized, overpriced and borring.

I am just saying there are PLENTY - we're talking thousands upon thousands - of hot young cubanas interested in being with a nice foreigner for free.

Of course, if you run around Salon Rojo and Café Cantante and wave your 100 CUC bills around, you're not going to run into any - you will be restricted to the ho0kers.

So if we do this quote again from El Chico:

"Quote: "In my opinion, Cubans are already promiscuous and as long as you are decent looking, there are a lot of regular girls that don`t mind being with you for some extra cash as long as the risk and exposure is minimal."

It is actually very spot on and one of the best statements I have seen in here for a while. If you take out the 'extra cash' bit.TG,

You need to realize that you are 100% of this dispute. You started it, you kept it going, and you keep ranting when everyone else has moved on. You need to go on vacation.

[El Chico]

It is actually very spot on and one of the best statements I have seen in here for a while. If you take out the 'extra cash' bit.

I think it all depends on your point of view. If you are looking for a real girlfriend and are only going to be with her, sure take the time to find a nice girl, but don't believe she is interested in you in the beginning because your a nice guy. Like anywhere else in the world women will be attracted to guys who appear to have money or can improve their situation.

If you plan to be with several girls, for me the few bucks you are going to save is not worth deceiving girls into thinking you are looking for an honest relationship. I am much more comfortable laying the cards on the table and everyone knowing the true situation (it also allows for them to set you up with their friends).

In the end, whether you give them $40 now, or take them shopping its going to cost you the same. It all depends on what you are looking for. I believe the relevance and/or morality of paying or not is the same in both situations if you are planning on being with more than one girl.

[Deep Dive]

Look guys, either way. Up front or the back end. One has to pay. Some people prefer up front and others the back end. There are pros and cons for both, but I can assure you there is going to be expenditures. I prefer the back end. It's more of a GFE, but the costs add up. Dinner, drinks, etc. I've been told by some of my friends that the only way to go is up front, that way you know what your damages are and you know for sure the chic is going to leave. There is some truth to that! I've had many girlfriends down there, however you start to feel guilty that some of them don't even have soap or shampo so you start getting them stuff and that just leads to bigger stuff. True the cubans are horny to begin with, so a lot of them figure why not make some money while enjoying, but the sex is a transactional type of sex. The non-pros once you've scored, are just off the hook. Just incredible. Because some of them haven't had sex in a few months! That's like a few years for girls outside of Cuba! I do admit, once and a while I like going to check the super pros at places like la cecilia or casa de la musica just to see them in action, all the 70 year old italians spending 100cucs plus. Thinking they are rock stars! The chicks are defenitely super hot, and depending on how drunk I get, sometimes end up with one. There are other clubs that local cubans frequent, however at these place it's almost impossible to hook up since the chicks are ussually with boyfriend or friends just enjoying a night out.

[El Rey De Pollo]

I think it all depends on your point of view. If you are looking for a real girlfriend and are only going to be with her, sure take the time to find a nice girl (...)

I don't see it like that. It's sure enough a promiscous society and most Cuban men fuck around and have a girlfriend and a lover and another lover and then the extra stuff 'en la calle'. Why would a foreigner need to be with just one when all the Cubans are fucking everything with a pulse?


but don't believe she is interested in you in the beginning because your a nice guy. Like anywhere else in the world women will be attracted to guys who appear to have money or can improve their situation.

Agree that like everywhere else in the world, lots of girls looking for guys with money. But also, like anywhere else, there are girls for whom money is not the most important. And why not believe she is interested if you know something about judging Cuban girls? In Cuba, most girls seem to think 'the lighter the better' when it comes to boys/men. So being a white/blond/blue eyed European/North American is not that bad, lookswize. And while there are plenty of good actors among cubanas, I do believe a girl is interested in me when after 8 dates and 6-7 times in bed, she still hasn't asked for money or even implied that she needed a new dress, shoes, phone money etc. I have met several girls who have refused to take any money. One girl, I finally hid a 50 CUC note in her purse last time I saw her before I flew home. Three months later when I came back, she gave me the bill back and was very offended! And that was a girl with a lousy paid crab job sitting in a booth by the harbour with no aircon counting ships 10 hours a day! Of course, that is NOT typical of Cuba. And yes, most of the 'nice' girls who don't take money for sex will still be wishing/hoping, even begging, for some spending cash or new clothes. And a little of that is fine with me, but when they go overboard and ask for something every time you see them, that's it for me. Cause then it's the same as paying directy for sex.


If you plan to be with several girls, for me the few bucks you are going to save is not worth deceiving girls into thinking you are looking for an honest relationship. I am much more comfortable laying the cards on the table and everyone knowing the true situation (it also allows for them to set you up with their friends).

Depends on whether you think you are deceiving them. If you are honest and don't pretend to be looking for a serious relationship, then it is their choice (as in the 'normal' world) if they are up for sex. I never pretend to be looking to marry her or take a girl abroad, but I admit that I do at times exaggerate the amount of work I have to do there. And yes, it can get hectic and rough at times if you have worked up a portfolio of girls and some of them are beginning to think they are your girlfriend. It's a challenging balance, not wanting to deceive and not wanting to stick to just one.

[El Cubanito]

One of my best friends has a car in Guines I take parts for, or actually catalina de guines. While I'd have to agree the talent in that shit town is crazy. It's still a boring shit town with way too many mosquitos. Just saying.

I have been to Catalina de Guines and NO the talent in this town does NOT impress me. I am talking about Guines. The talent here is very very good.

[Member #4167]

I have been to Catalina de Guines and NO the talent in this town does NOT impress me. I am talking about Guines. The talent here is very very good.El Cubanito - my experience has been very spotty in the campos. If the city in the campo is too small - the jeva is unlikely to fvck you because she is worried that all the neighbors will instantly know and will report her to the local Cederista.

I am sure that your good times in Guines was a fluke - it was good only on the particular day that you visited, because perhaps the local police chief was out of town or feeling particularly lax that week.

[Deep Dive]

Tourist when in Cuba have to understand that these people are generally poor and will go to great lengths to earn a living and that means conning and living off of tourists. It's part of what they call "la mecanica", so you have to go with the flow and live with it. I mean can you blame them? If you feel you're gettting the shaft without justification. Just tell them you know about la mecanica.

From my experience with chicks that don't take money blatanly, usually don't want to be perceived as jineteras. So they will just accept the situation and hope that you will offer other things. My interpretation is that cuban chicks have netgative repution. Meaning they are labled as *****s. Like russians. The only difference between the two is that Russian chicks don't give a shit and cubans do.

Switching to another subject entirely, restaurants and paladars. Any suggestions from members on good ones. I enjoy good food, and in habana it's almost impossible to get anything good to eat. I usaully wind up cooking myself. I know there are lots of good paladars out there, but you have to know about them from word of mouth. So any suggestions?

My list:

La cocina de lilians. Expensive but good

La fontana. Expensive but good

El deluvio. Best pizza in town. And fast!

El aljibe. Good state run all you can eat

Palenque. Good state run smoked pork. And really cheap

El doctor.

La esparanza. Never gone heard it's good

El guarida. Over hyped

A few in el bario chino

[El Chico]

Switching to another subject entirely, restaurants and paladars. Any suggestions from members on good ones. I enjoy good food, and in habana it's almost impossible to get anything good to eat. I usaully wind up cooking myself. I know there are lots of good paladars out there, but you have to know about them from word of mouth. So any suggestions?


Los Nardos - Across from the Capitolio - good food - large portions inexpensive - but all male waiters are sometimes pushy and down right rude - usually line-up - no reservations

El Gran Azul - inside the National Aquarium (in front of Russian Embassy) Food OK and cheap - is inside the dolphin tank as they watch you eat

El Templete - Plaza de Armas - food good but not cheap

Melia Habana Hotel - 3rd Ave e/ 76 y 78 Playa - Good Italian, Japanese and Brazilian restaurants and Buffet on 9th floor all reasonably priced

La Casa - Calle 30, No. 865 e/26 y 41, Nuevo Vedado, good food reasonably priced

La Coruna - Gervasio St., off Reina St., Centro Habana - Traditional Cuban food - very cheap, huge portions and good service.

[El Grande]

Los Nardos - Across from the Capitolio - good food - large portions inexpensive - but all male waiters are sometimes pushy and down right rude - usually line-up - no reservations

El Gran Azul - inside the National Aquarium (in front of Russian Embassy) Food OK and cheap - is inside the dolphin tank as they watch you eat

El Templete - Plaza de Armas - food good but not cheap

Melia Habana Hotel - 3rd Ave e/ 76 y 78 Playa - Good Italian, Japanese and Brazilian restaurants and Buffet on 9th floor all reasonably priced

La Casa - Calle 30, No. 865 e/26 y 41, Nuevo Vedado, good food reasonably priced

La Coruna - Gervasio St., off Reina St., Centro Habana - Traditional Cuban food - very cheap, huge portions and good service.

Fine selection. Nardos is great, but don't pass the line for the upstairs room, wait to be seated downstairs in the great furnished salon.

I'd also add the "Flor de Loto" here, one of Havanas best in the barrio chino, two blocks away from the busy china town street. Great food and reasonable prices.

And dont forget the real cheap paladares, where you pay the food in CUP and only drinks in CUC, e.g.:

"El Cochinito" half openair restaurant at 23rd street; and

"La Roca" one block from the hotel Nacional.

[Deep Dive]

Funny you mention los nardos. Last steady I had used to work there, haven't eaten there yet, even though she tried to get me to go many times. Also forgot to mention another good place to go where you get a "surf and turf" for 3 people for 15cuc. It's a good place to bring a few chicks and keep it within the budget. Pedregal, located near macumba in sybounay.

I usually stay away from the hotel restaurants. Are the ones in melia cohiba any good? The italian restaurant located in the melia habana is good. The chef is italian.

[Jonesie]

Fine selection. Nardos is great, but don't pass the line for the upstairs room, wait to be seated downstairs in the great furnished salon.

I'd also add the "Flor de Loto" here, one of Havanas best in the barrio chino, two blocks away from the busy china town street. Great food and reasonable prices.

And dont forget the real cheap paladares, where you pay the food in CUP and only drinks in CUC, e.g.:

"El Cochinito" half openair restaurant at 23rd street; and

"La Roca" one block from the hotel Nacional."El Cochinito" was great when I lived in Havana. I could show my student carnet and pay in CUP.

La Roca is a staple of my dining in Vedado. Good food and very reasonable.

Some other options:

La Fontana in Miramar: Really nice food, but not really cheap

El Ajibe in Miramar: Great chicket

La Guarida in Centro: Probably the best restaurant in Havana. You'll need reservations

Los Amigos: Nice paladar in Vedado, very reasonable

[Adinga]

Be straight up with Cuban women but be polite if possible.

Don't try to fuck movie stars every night.The best fuck is usually with a 7 not a 10. Ive been hittin on the girls 28 -40 and having good results and better sex.They are more mature and alot less headaches.

Paying alot of money for pussy shows weakness and stupidity.

[BeersTerry]

Best value and quality are Flor de Loto and Los Nardos.
Prado y Neptuno also is decent for Italian.

You have to be pretty brave to eat sushi in Cuba.

[Deep Dive]

Prado y Neptuno is a hit or miss. Sometimes it's great other times it just sucks! Better place is pizza nova. I think it's a chain out of canada, but the pizza is always generaly good.

I agree, the really hot ones tend to suck in bed. They also have way too much attitude. It's good for the visuals and that's it. I once had a la maison model show up when some of my buddies were in town. She was acting like a princess with all this attitude. To top it off she wanted 150! My buddies and I agreed that we were going to send her home with nothing! You should have seen the look on her face when she found out she was going home empty handed. Priceless!

The older market is probably fantastic. I don't have much experience in that market segment.

[Bichu]

I strongly recommend Dona Almira in Cerro. Huge portions.

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[Member #4167]

The older market is probably fantastic. I don't have much experience in that market segment.The older market segment is just as paranoid and pain in the ass as the younger market segment. The only good thing with the older market segment is that really know how to fvck. They fck a lot better than the younger chicas. Anal, swallow cum, whatever you want!

[Member #4167]

.Hey Deep Dive,

Do you dive? If you are interested. I will turn you onto to diving locations and shops. Send me a PM if you are interested.

[El Rey De Pollo]

La Guarida has become a charicature of itself IMO. It's more like a tourist attraction than a restaurant these days. Just check the line inside, not to mention the hundreds of photos of it's famous visitors. Food suffers. Still decent, but nothing like just 3-4-5 years ago.

I think Los Nardos is headed in that same direction. Was fabulous 3-4 years ago. Now too popular for their own good.

Prado y Neptuno... The jinetera dinner-place. And hang out place. True, hit and miss. Decent bet for a quick meal on the mongering route. You can eat and walk outside where there's always a drugdealer or pimp who can hook you up with one of the neighborhood ho's.

El Aljibe, Palenque, Tocororo, La Fontana, Havana classics where you can hardly go wrong.

[Kalifornication]

OK, just seeking a bit of abuse for my good natured foolish persona.

Decided to travel with a very active member of this board to la isla. The short story was like this, he was expecting money to be sent to Cuba and was a bit short on cash, asked for $$ and I, given my good/foolish nature, provided.

Now this fella promised to repay, but has since vanished, except for his presence on this board. I am, however, in possession of his telephone number at his place of employment as well as his wife's telephone number. Now I am not one to go to extremes such as making a call to the wife, but, the reason that I even have the wife's number is because this fella's excuse failed him while away in Cuba and I covered for him by giving him an alibi by speaking to his wife.

Ok, bring on the abuse! What is recommended?

[Kalifornication]

OK, just seeking a bit of abuse for my good natured foolish persona.

Decided to travel with a very active member of this board to la isla. The short story was like this, he was expecting money to be sent to Cuba and was a bit short on cash, asked for $$ and I, given my good/foolish nature, provided.

Now this fella promised to repay, but has since vanished, except for his presence on this board. I am, however, in possession of his telephone number at his place of employment as well as his wife's telephone number. Now I am not one to go to extremes such as making a call to the wife, but, the reason that I even have the wife's number is because this fella's excuse failed him while away in Cuba and I covered for him by giving him an alibi by speaking to his wife.

Ok, bring on the abuse! What is recommended?


To the person that just sent me a PM, I cannot reply as your mail box is not accepting messages because it it full.

[El Cubanito]

OK, just seeking a bit of abuse for my good natured foolish persona.

Decided to travel with a very active member of this board to la isla. The short story was like this, he was expecting money to be sent to Cuba and was a bit short on cash, asked for $$ and I, given my good/foolish nature, provided.

Now this fella promised to repay, but has since vanished, except for his presence on this board. I am, however, in possession of his telephone number at his place of employment as well as his wife's telephone number. Now I am not one to go to extremes such as making a call to the wife, but, the reason that I even have the wife's number is because this fella's excuse failed him while away in Cuba and I covered for him by giving him an alibi by speaking to his wife.

Ok, bring on the abuse! What is recommended?

Ok, now we know how some FRIENDS are and how they roll.

Guys, the person that Kalifornication is referring to in his message, is me. The cat is out of the bag. I will not keep you guys in suspense. Just one question my friend, if you know my number why don't you call me? I can produce my phone bill and show that Mr. Kalifornication has not try to call me. But why does he need to come here and throw everything out in the open like this. Mr. Kalifornication, I know that you have been bad mouthing me since our first trip and you like to give the aura that you ARE good nature. But buddy when you do shit like this. When you threaten a guy to go to extreme and DO NOT SAY YOU WOULD NOT DO IT. The real reason you do not do it is because I have info and proof of info on you too. Why? Why man would you say something like you just said. You have my info on contacting me and you do me like this?

Mr. Kalifornication, since we are airing our dirty laundry to the forum. I would now like to say a couple of things. I would like to remind Kalifornication or that other name you go by. (I was just shocked to find out that you had 2 names, but as the lawyer that you are you always are covering you butt)

Let clear the money issue first. Mr. Kalifornication, if you remember, when we both landed in Havana, we both decided to rent a car together. There was issues with the payment, not the payment but the deposit that was mandate by the car rental company. We agree we would both split it. But at the time I did not have all of this cash. If you remember the deposit was alot higher that what was quoted on the original rental reservation. I agree I DO OWE YOU this money and I WILL PAY IT TO YOU. Now the only thing that I am not clear on if you are going to charge for the second trip when I offered to pay for you way so you could fo down and see your "Novia". I just want to know if I owe you for this money too. If you want to charge for me that, that is ok, but that money I offered it to you because I had this ideal in my head that we were FRIENDS, not my backstabber. Man, you have been stabbing me behind my back since we went down the first time. You think I do not know all the shit you have said about me? Why man? I thought you were bigger than that man. But I see that you are not.

But man, you let me down. I really though you were a friend. You talk about all that stuff to the girl I was seeing in Cuba. In what was I doing, again because I though you were my boy, I was putting good words for you to your girl. As much as you think you can speak Spanish, you girl did NOT know what were you saying half the time. Mr. Kalifornication, do you remember the first trip when we were getting ready to leave Havana? We got the house owner to drive our girls back to their houses. When he told you the price you to drive your girl back to her house. You embarrase you girl to NO end. Do you remember how you reacted? The scene was very, very disturbing for your girl in Jose Marti Airport airport. I talked to her and I had my girl to talked to her, also. But she was ready to dump you. You might be enjoying your relationship with her now, but you came so close to blowing it with her more than a couple of times. What did I do? I always smooth thing over between you and her. That what buddies do for one another, they have one another back.

OK, FRIEND, you will have your money, but remember one thing. You might have been to Cuba and you might even love Cuba's government. But my Friend you DO NOT KNOW nothing about the inner working of that country.

Enjoy your life with your Novia, but you have lost a Friend. A Friend who could have help you tremendously with your Novia when you brought her here and help her with her adjustment period. Remember the FRIEND that have help you with adjusting to life on the United States. Remember that when she leaves your home here in goes to live in Miami to live with one of her cousins. Please do not tell me she does not want to come here. You forget I know this girl as well as you do.

Good Luck My FRIEND, You will get your money by the end of the Month.


El Cubanito

[El Cubanito]

There are alot of guys that attacking one another. This should not be one attacking one another. This site is to help one another in getting girls into bed. Let stop with the bickering and backstabbing. Let just a beer when we go to one of these countries and enjoy what the country has to offer, plus the great pussy that are just there waiting to get fuck.

Come on Guys.

El Cubanito

[Kalifornication]

There are alot of guys that attacking one another. This should not be one attacking one another. This site is to help one another in getting girls into bed. Let stop with the bickering and backstabbing. Let just a beer when we go to one of these countries and enjoy what the country has to offer, plus the great pussy that are just there waiting to get fuck.

Come on Guys.

El Cubanito


I am not going to respond to all of this, it really is pointless. Our time toghether was more than 1.5 years ago. You have my email, my telephone number and I even fed your clients remember? Let's just move on and see if you can finally make good on your word.

I wish you the best, despite all the nonsense you have said.

Best!

[El Cubanito]

I am not going to respond to all of this, it really is pointless. Our time toghether was more than 1.5 years ago. You have my email, my telephone number and I even fed your clients remember? Let's just move on and see if you can finally make good on your word.

I wish you the best, despite all the nonsense you have said.

Best!

I will make good on all of this. But man why??

Why go here. To remind you it was not 1.5 years ago, it was last October.

That is why I am so dump funded by you coming in putting it here. I will call you on Monday if you want to talked. I DO NOT Have your cell number since I lost my cell number. Please PM me with your number and we can talk if you want. At the end of the day I know that is your money, but you MUST admit coming here on the forum was not the way to go.

If you do not wish to talked then I wish you the best also.

El Cubanito

[Member #4167]

I will make good on all of this. But man why??

Why go here. To remind you it was not 1.5 years ago, it was last October.

That is why I am so dump funded by you coming in putting it here. I will call you on Monday if you want to talked. I DO NOT Have your cell number since I lost my cell number. Please PM me with your number and we can talk if you want. At the end of the day I know that is your money, but you MUST admit coming here on the forum was not the way to go.

If you do not wish to talked then I wish you the best also.

El CubanitoWhy is this personal banter allowed on this forum?

I am surprised Jackson hasn't blocked it.

[Smokers Rule]

I had almost this exact thing happen to me. A regular poster here met me in HAV and I lended him a lot of money for a car rental because his cousin or something was coming to the island. He promised to repay me when he got back. It has been more than a year, and I have received nothing. He still posts here and responds to my PMs, but I have not seen anything after multiple promises of payment.

I will hold off telling everyone who it is for one more month. If the debt isn't repaid by then, I'll tell you all.

It is unfortunate that fellow members here take advantage of people like that. I guess this means that we should just not lend anyone money.


Decided to travel with a very active member of this board to la isla. The short story was like this, he was expecting money to be sent to Cuba and was a bit short on cash, asked for $$ and I, given my good/foolish nature, provided.

Now this fella promised to repay, but has since vanished, except for his presence on this board. I am, however, in possession of his telephone number at his place of employment as well as his wife's telephone number. Now I am not one to go to extremes such as making a call to the wife, but, the reason that I even have the wife's number is because this fella's excuse failed him while away in Cuba and I covered for him by giving him an alibi by speaking to his wife.

Ok, bring on the abuse! What is recommended?

[Smokers Rule]

I think this is relevant. This forum is about meeting other members; if another member is going to rip me off or steal my money, I want to know about it. Not saying this is what Cubanito did, but I certainly would not recommend lending money to the person to whom I lended money!


Why is this personal banter allowed on this forum?

I am surprised Jackson hasn't blocked it.

[El Cubanito]

I think this is relevant. This forum is about meeting other members; if another member is going to rip me off or steal my money, I want to know about it. Not saying this is what Cubanito did, but I certainly would not recommend lending money to the person to whom I lended money!


What I did is not right and I own up to my mistake. But my buddy had my info and he could have contacted me and said, Hey I really want this money now. By the luck of God my business is turning around and I am coming out of the dull drump that I was in. But I am sure everybody member on this board has experience some type of financial woes or restrain.

Smokers what you buddy did is not right, but do not that. I suggest that you speak to him and STRESS that you really need it now.

But, if you guys are traveling buddies why do this? Let me ask you a question did you enjoy yourself that time you went with him?

[El Rey De Pollo]

Come on, man, with the amount of Cubans trying to steal our money in Cuba, no fucking need for fellow travellers and wingmen to steal our money.

That said, I disagree that the forum is for posting dirty laundry and hanging other posters up to dry. Things are not always black and white, and two people might not agree on who owes who money and how much. And no need for all of us who don't know jack shit about it to start judging.

Then again, I have lately been prooven to be the only one who thought the forum was meant for something else than everybody else, so who knows what the majority thinks belong here or what doesn't.

[Adinga]

Cuba is not a cheap vacation. Ive been cash strapped before in Cuba and its no fucking joke especially if your American. I applaude the Brother who provided assistance.

For a newby /novice traveler you will need at least 160 CUC daily ($200 US)

Daily Expenses include:
Casa - 35 Cuc
Food - 25 CUC
Drink - 20 CUC
Pussy - 50 CUC
Taxi - 20 CUC
Daily Internet - 5 CUC
Club Entrance - 10 cuc

(This obviously doesnt include Rentacar and Plane ticket)




Remember CASH IS KING in Cuba

[Methos]

I would like to add my two cents to this discussion. Before I do, I will say I met Kalifornication through this forum and now consider him to be a good friend.

I don’t think this is the place for personal attacks, but I agree with Smokers Rule that this forum is about sharing information and meeting other like-minded members. I want to read about restaurants that rip off tourists; I want to know about scams that girls run on people so I can avoid them – and yes if people have issues with other members I’d like to know about that too. Cuba is a different place. Many of us go there without ATM or Credit Card access so it’s not the same as other destinations.

I realize it can be a fine line between flaming someone and reporting an incident, but if you read back through the posts Kalifornication did not name names – El Cubanito came clean himself. I think that was a stand-up thing to do.

All I can say at this point is I don’t think the posts should be deleted and I’d like to read about it when the debt is settled. I would also like to know the outcome of Smokers Rule’s situation so I hope this talk is allowed to continue – without the personal attacks.

[Jonesie]

I would like to add my two cents to this discussion. Before I do, I will say I met Kalifornication through this forum and now consider him to be a good friend.

I don’t think this is the place for personal attacks, but I agree with Smokers Rule that this forum is about sharing information and meeting other like-minded members. I want to read about restaurants that rip off tourists; I want to know about scams that girls run on people so I can avoid them – and yes if people have issues with other members I’d like to know about that too. Cuba is a different place. Many of us go there without ATM or Credit Card access so it’s not the same as other destinations.

I realize it can be a fine line between flaming someone and reporting an incident, but if you read back through the posts Kalifornication did not name names – El Cubanito came clean himself. I think that was a stand-up thing to do.

All I can say at this point is I don’t think the posts should be deleted and I’d like to read about it when the debt is settled. I would also like to know the outcome of Smokers Rule’s situation so I hope this talk is allowed to continue – without the personal attacks.Those of us that go to Cuba know that it's easy to spend more than you thought you would. I've done it on more than one occasion. Guys I've gone with have as well. I've lent money to fellow gringos and I've been lent money when I've miscalculated my costs in Cuba. I'd like to think that if I were in a jam, my friends would bail me out. I'd also like to think I'd do it for someone else again.

Lending people money is a personal decision that should be kept in the personal realm. I don't think this is the place to "mediate" grievances between our fellows.

A. Don't lend money you can't afford to lose.

B. If a friend bails you out of a jam, make right with him.

I just got back from my trip. I'll post a report later tonight or tomorrow.

[Digital Curry]

Kalifornication & El Cubanito and I planned a trip a year and half ago. El Cubanito bailed out and didn't go. I went with Kalifornication and since then we have become friends. Kalifornication is a great guy and I can vouch that he is a stand-up, honorable person.

For a long time I have been a second hand witness to the conflict between Kalifornication & El Cubanito. Everything I've seen leads me to believe El Cubanito owes Kalifornication money and has evaded paying it. Granted, my perspective is one-sided, but I have no dog in this fight.

Digital Curry


What I did is not right and I own up to my mistake. But my buddy had my info and he could have contacted me and said, Hey I really want this money now. By the luck of God my business is turning around and I am coming out of the dull drump that I was in. But I am sure everybody member on this board has experience some type of financial woes or restrain.

Smokers what you buddy did is not right, but do not that. I suggest that you speak to him and STRESS that you really need it now.

But, if you guys are traveling buddies why do this? Let me ask you a question did you enjoy yourself that time you went with him?

[Smokers Rule]

I would also like to know the outcome of Smokers Rule’s situation so I hope this talk is allowed to continue – without the personal attacks.

I'll definitely let you know.


Let me ask you a question did you enjoy yourself that time you went with him?

Absolutely not. We drove to Trinidad, I got stuck rooming with a chica that was a friend of his chica, sick, and not interested in sex with me, and I ended up taking a bus back to Havana. Not totally his fault, but the answer is no nonetheless.

[Deep Dive]

Honestly I don't want to read pages of posts back and forth about stuff that I have no clue on or don't want to know about. Anyone who lends money to some stranger without some form of colateral, is just stupid. True, down there you can run out of money real quickly and for me to lend a couple of hundred dollars to some stranger, would never happen. I have given money a few times to guys who didn't have the 25cuc's to pay leaving the country. It all depends on the program you are running. Advise, if you think you're going to spend 200 USD per day, I think this is good number (if you decide to rent a car, you'll spend between 65-90cucs per day plus a 200cuc refundable down payment), then just double it to be on the safe side. Obviously, you don't have to convert all of the money up front, just as you need it. Better safe than sorry.

Obviously, you can setup an account at non-american bank and use the debt card down there. A canadian bank would work. I think all of them work, except for HSBC.

[Member #4167]

Cuba is not a cheap vacation. Ive been cash strapped before in Cuba and its no fucking joke especially if your American. I applaude the Brother who provided assistance.

For a newby /novice traveler you will need at least 160 CUC daily ($200 US)

Daily Expenses include:
Casa - 35 Cuc
Food - 25 CUC
Drink - 20 CUC
Pussy - 50 CUC
Taxi - 20 CUC
Daily Internet - 5 CUC
Club Entrance - 10 cuc

(This obviously doesnt include Rentacar and Plane ticket)

Remember CASH IS KING in CubaBrother Adinga,

Your assessment of Cuba is very perceptive ! Your numbers add up to 165CUC = 198 US Dollars. This could keep a Cubano alive for 2 months! Of course, one could play around with the numbers and maybe shave a little here and a little there.

Many mongers have suggested that the only way to get pvssy is to have a car. A cheap rental car + gas + parking (or security) costs 70 CUC/day (subtract the 20 in taxi - it adds to your 50 cuc/day budget - putting your new budget at $258 US Dollars/day.

[Jonesie]

Intro:

Jetzun hit me up on the pm a while back about Cuba. A lot of people hit me up about Cuba. I try to be helpful, at the same time practical. Of the many people that have questions about Cuba, few actually take a trip. Closer to his trip, he confirms and asks if I'd like him to bring me anything down to Costa Rica. I tell him, "I really miss Pace picante sauce, Hormel pre-cooked bacon, and a Old El Paso fajita kit. He says no problem. When you live in Costa Rica, you miss some of the silly things from back home.

So Jetzun arrives with a couple shopping bags full of Fajita kits, Bacon, and two industrial sized containers of Pace picante sauce. I think I'll be growing bacon out of my ears before I finish all of it.

Intro. Guilt by Association

This trip was not without it's obstacles. We got to the airport with a bit of time left. Departed Costa Rica without problems.

Upon approach to Cuba, we were informed that the airport had been closed and we would be flying in circles until they re-opened it. So we flew around for about an hour until we were cleared for landing.

When we landed, immigration was quick, I wish I could say the same for Aduana. Cuban Aduana was completely unprepared for an arriving flight, let alone the back up of flights behind us landing in close succession.

I was carrying a transmission (don't ask), and some car parts for a friend's car, so we were sent to secondary.

The secondary Aduana guys were all to suspicious and none too bright. The guy asked me for my cell phone, when the phone asked for a pin, he demanded to know the pin. I asked "Do you know why Cubacel requires a pin to access the phone"? , he shrugged, "To keep clowns out of other people's phones". This pissed him off and he was not going to dig through everything I brought.

While opening the box with the transmission and pulling it out, a bunch of the packing peanuts spilled out onto the floor. I don't think he cared for this, judging by the look on his face.

Needless to say, we were in Aduana for a while. Jetzun was hassled because he was standing too close to me. Sorry buddy.

A couple hours later, we were changing money and into a taxi towards Havana.

A deal's a deal. Or maybe it's not.

When we got to the Casa, we were informed that instead of 2 rooms, she had one. But. She had pimped one of us out to a neighboring casa for a commission.

I got on the phone to a few casas I knew and we were luckily able to secure a couple single apartments without too much time.

Such is life in Cuba. A person's word is only as good as their options.

First Night. Paradise

After we finally got settled in and met up at the Nacional for cigars before going out, we headed over to La Canitas in the Habana Libre. Only to find the place empty. On a Friday night no less.

So we headed over to La Cecelia. This place wasn't empty. Far from it. As we went in, there were no less than 300 girls in this large outdoor club.

Jetzun's eyes went crazy. It was half delight, half disbelief. We walked a lap and fought off the chicas to get a thorough glance at tonight's menu.

Jetzun spotted this stunning mulatta and asked me to see if we could secure her services for the evening. I pulled her over and she was in fact available for a cultural exchange this evening. I negotiated 70CUC for two pops. Good eye grasshopper.

I then began the interview process and was able to find a lovely companion from last months trip.

Dyanna didn't dissapoint. For a hard earned 70CUC, she treated my balls like a lollipop and brought her 'A' game to two intense rounds of amor.

Nice.

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[Jonesie]

On the second day in Havana, Juan Almeda died. Apparently, Mr. Almeda was one of the original gangsta's in 59 and many of the state offices and business were ordered closed. Including the discos. Couldn't he have held out until Monday after I was gone?

We went to a few empty parking lots looking for the party without luck.

We finally went to the Candy Store hoping a foreign investment group wouldn't be observing this guys passing.

The Candy Store was unimpressive. The tourist/puta ratio sucked. I found one hottie, but she brought a homely friend that she refused to let fend for herself. She first offered 2 girls, then she said her price would be 80cuc, but I'd need to give 20cuc to her friend for a taxi home. I pointed out that that was 100cuc. She shrugged. I wished her luck.

After finding Jetzun suitable entertainment, I left and went walking down La Rampa. I spotted three black girls walking onto a dark side-street and followed. As I approached, an ugly one asked if I wanted company. I told her yes, I wouldn't mind going back to my place with her skinny friend. Her friend asked me how much, I returned the question. She said 40cuc, I said 30cuc. She countered with 35cuc. We got a taxi.

Cristina was a ball-licker like many of her Cubana sisters. I'd say she delivered a little more than 35cuc, so I gave her 40cuc on her way out. Not bad.

[Jonesie]

I woke up Sunday with a stiffy and started flipping through my phone for a remedy. Of the 7-8 girls I called, Lauren was the first to call me back.

Lauren is a dirty girl. In a good way.

She arrived and gave me an exceptional blow-job. Again, the bottom of the balls licking didn't go unappreciated. She fucked me thoroughly until I pulled out and blasted on her stomach. She left with a well earned 50cuc and I called Jetzun to arrange lunch before I had to head to the airport.

Lauren

[El Cubanito]

Kalifornication & El Cubanito and I planned a trip a year and half ago. El Cubanito bailed out and didn't go. I went with Kalifornication and since then we have become friends. Kalifornication is a great guy and I can vouch that he is a stand-up, honorable person.

For a long time I have been a second hand witness to the conflict between Kalifornication & El Cubanito. Everything I've seen leads me to believe El Cubanito owes Kalifornication money and has evaded paying it. Granted, my perspective is one-sided, but I have no dog in this fight.

Digital Curry

Digital Curry,

I am not ducking Kalifornication. I will pay him back his money. There are other issues that you sort of know about it a little, I think. Remember the phone conversation we had? I am not going to post that here, but that is my beef with him and he knows it. Even when I owes him the money we would talk about 5 to 8 times a day. We stopped communcating not because of the money. But because of other issues.


I WILL PAY HIM BACK his money.

El Cubanito

[El Cubanito]

Kalifornication & El Cubanito and I planned a trip a year and half ago. El Cubanito bailed out and didn't go. I went with Kalifornication and since then we have become friends. Kalifornication is a great guy and I can vouch that he is a stand-up, honorable person.

For a long time I have been a second hand witness to the conflict between Kalifornication & El Cubanito. Everything I've seen leads me to believe El Cubanito owes Kalifornication money and has evaded paying it. Granted, my perspective is one-sided, but I have no dog in this fight.

Digital Curry

I am glad you can confirm my money situation. I did not go because I DID NOT wanted to go. But because I had short funds back then, plus IT DID NOT LOOKED ME OWING HIM THE MONEY.

[El Cubanito]

Those of us that go to Cuba know that it's easy to spend more than you thought you would. I've done it on more than one occasion. Guys I've gone with have as well. I've lent money to fellow gringos and I've been lent money when I've miscalculated my costs in Cuba. I'd like to think that if I were in a jam, my friends would bail me out. I'd also like to think I'd do it for someone else again.

Lending people money is a personal decision that should be kept in the personal realm. I don't think this is the place to "mediate" grievances between our fellows.

A. Don't lend money you can't afford to lose.

B. If a friend bails you out of a jam, make right with him.

I just got back from my trip. I'll post a report later tonight or tomorrow.

I have personally been robbed by Cubans in Cuba. Did I flip out, no I just move on. I have lend money to people in the airport that do not have the money to pay to get out of Cuba. Money comes and go, Friendship are to be treasured.

I agree with A & B from above with you.

El Cubanito

[El Cubanito]

I would like to add my two cents to this discussion. Before I do, I will say I met Kalifornication through this forum and now consider him to be a good friend.

I don’t think this is the place for personal attacks, but I agree with Smokers Rule that this forum is about sharing information and meeting other like-minded members. I want to read about restaurants that rip off tourists; I want to know about scams that girls run on people so I can avoid them – and yes if people have issues with other members I’d like to know about that too. Cuba is a different place. Many of us go there without ATM or Credit Card access so it’s not the same as other destinations.

I realize it can be a fine line between flaming someone and reporting an incident, but if you read back through the posts Kalifornication did not name names – El Cubanito came clean himself. I think that was a stand-up thing to do.

All I can say at this point is I don’t think the posts should be deleted and I’d like to read about it when the debt is settled. I would also like to know the outcome of Smokers Rule’s situation so I hope this talk is allowed to continue – without the personal attacks.


The post should not be deleted. I met Kalifornication by his other name, but when I read it, I knew he was talking about me. Owing up to your mistake is what a man should do. At least that is the way my father raise me.

El Cubanito

[El Cubanito]

For anybody interested, Sunwing has a roundtrip special of $65 Canadian Dollars Roundtrip leaving on September 18 and returning on September 25. For those of you who have the time and the money, you can for $65.00 Canadians Plus Taxes. Taxes are $210 Canadians Dollars for a grand total of $275.00 dollars. For those who live in the East Coast and one to get away for a week this is a very inexpensive side trip.

BTW, the Canadian travel agent that I use is Holiday Market Travel (www.holidaymarkettravel.com)

Good Luck.

El Cubanito

[Jonesie]

For anybody interested, Sunwing has a roundtrip special of $65 Canadian Dollars Roundtrip leaving on September 18 and returning on September 25. For those of you who have the time and the money, you can for $65.00 Canadians Plus Taxes. Taxes are $210 Canadians Dollars for a grand total of $275.00 dollars. For those who live in the East Coast and one to get away for a week this is a very inexpensive side trip.

BTW, the Canadian travel agent that I use is Holiday Market Travel (www.holidaymarkettravel.com)

Good Luck.

El CubanitoYou left out some pretty important details. Like a departing location and destination.

[Member #4167]

I woke up Sunday with a stiffy and started flipping through my phone for a remedy. Of the 7-8 girls I called, Lauren was the first to call me back.

Lauren is a dirty girl. In a good way.

She arrived and gave me an exceptional blow-job. Again, the bottom of the balls licking didn't go unappreciated. She fucked me thoroughly until I pulled out and blasted on her stomach. She left with a well earned 50cuc and I called Jetzun to arrange lunch before I had to head to the airport.

LaurenNice post, Jonesie - She is a very attractive Jeva!

Thanks for the foticos.

[El Grande]

Lauren

Great pics!!

[El Cubanito]

You left out some pretty important details. Like a departing location and destination.

Leaving from Toronto to Varadero. This is good for teh folks that live around the NYC area. It is a 6 hour drive from NYC to Toronto.

[Adinga]

Tip

When flying from NYC the cheapest gateway country is the Bahamas.Most of the flights are out of JFK airport.

Flights to Bahamas start around $300 (includes tax) and the connecting Cubana flight is about $350.There is also a $42 departure tax from Nassau.

Expect to pay $700 min.

[El Cubanito]

Tip

When flying from NYC the cheapest gateway country is the Bahamas.Most of the flights are out of JFK airport.

Flights to Bahamas start around $300 (includes tax) and the connecting Cubana flight is about $350.There is also a $42 departure tax from Nassau.

Expect to pay $700 min.

WOW, Cancun is cheaper than Nassau on Cubana? Cancun to Havana roundtrip on Cubana is about $290.00 I have not use Nassau in a long time. I do not live in NYC, I live in the south of Jersey. Getting to JFK is a pain in the butt because of the Belt Parkway. That thing is always a Parking lot no matter what time of the day you drive in.

[BeersTerry]

I make that drive often NYC to Toronto is 9 hours, more depending on the traffic at the border crossing.

[Toronto]

You could always look into Porter Airlines out of EWR to Toronto, maybe worth it combined with the cheap airfare from Toronto to Varadero.

[Methos]

You could always look into Porter Airlines out of EWR to Toronto, maybe worth it combined with the cheap airfare from Toronto to Varadero.

That will put you at the wrong airport in Toronto - and they aren't close to each other.

[Adinga]

Time is money.

If your traveling form south Jersey fly thru Philadelphia or Newark but you will probably have a layover in Florida.I believe that thier are 4 daily flights to Havana from Cancun which makes it a popular gateway.I was questioned about my whereabouts 3 years ago when clearing Customs at Newark Airport so cover your ass and no cigars/rum.

Its a pain in the ass to fly to Cuba and its expensive

[Toronto]

That will put you at the wrong airport in Toronto - and they aren't close to each other.

True, but it's a $50 cab ride. I figure this beats a 9 hr drive.

[El Cubanito]

True, but it's a $50 cab ride. I figure this beats a 9 hr drive.


I just look at some prices from Porter airline, leaving from Newark to Toronto. The fare I got was around $450 Canadian Dollars, which leave us the Price at or near $450 US Dollars (It 425 Dollars to be exact). There is not much of a difference between the Canadian Dollar and US Dollar. I only take the Pearson International whenever I can get a special like the one advetise by Sunwing Airlines. A round trip flight of $275 Canadian for a Trip to havana or Varadero, it a great price.

I ussually spent anywhere from around $550 to $725 when it comes to airline tickets to Cuba. Most of the time, I do travel thru Cancun because it one of most inexpensive gateways to go Cuba. The cost of airline bewteen Newark and Cancun is between $250 to 350, depending on days in adavance I book with airline. Then between Cancun and Havana is another $280 to $298. I have never gotten the same price twice whenver I book from Cancun to Havana via Cubana.

In conclusion, this fare of $275 Canadian Dollars and about $100 dollars for gas it a great savings for guys like us who live on the NYC area.

I know that some of you say using Nassau is a better gateway, but for me since I am out of Newark. There are no direct flights into Nassau. I ussually got to make a stop at Miami or Fort L.

This is my 2 cent on this subject.

El Cubanito

[Toronto]

Wow I had no idea it was that much on Porter. I usually drive to Buffalo and fly Jetblue to JFK so I never checked.

[Adinga]

I bought tickets 5 days before the flight from Newark to Nassau.

Price was $275 with layover in Florida.The direct flight to Cuncun was $658.

So the $375 savings was worth it for me but Cancun is alot less hassle.

I live in NJ and refuse to fly out of JFK unless its the only option

[Jonesie]

I just look at some prices from Porter airline, leaving from Newark to Toronto. The fare I got was around $450 Canadian Dollars, which leave us the Price at or near $450 US Dollars (It 425 Dollars to be exact). There is not much of a difference between the Canadian Dollar and US Dollar. I only take the Pearson International whenever I can get a special like the one advetise by Sunwing Airlines. A round trip flight of $275 Canadian for a Trip to havana or Varadero, it a great price.

I ussually spent anywhere from around $550 to $725 when it comes to airline tickets to Cuba. Most of the time, I do travel thru Cancun because it one of most inexpensive gateways to go Cuba. The cost of airline bewteen Newark and Cancun is between $250 to 350, depending on days in adavance I book with airline. Then between Cancun and Havana is another $280 to $298. I have never gotten the same price twice whenver I book from Cancun to Havana via Cubana.

In conclusion, this fare of $275 Canadian Dollars and about $100 dollars for gas it a great savings for guys like us who live on the NYC area.

I know that some of you say using Nassau is a better gateway, but for me since I am out of Newark. There are no direct flights into Nassau. I ussually got to make a stop at Miami or Fort L.

This is my 2 cent on this subject.

El CubanitoTwo things to remember. There is a US Customs office in Nassau. I've gone this route and it's a grand pain in the ass as Nassau airport has dick to do. And Cubana flights will be cancelled if there aren't over a certain percentage of the seats filled. They will simply tell you to return the next day.

[Steve Nash]

Brother Adinga,

Your assessment of Cuba is very perceptive ! Your numbers add up to 165CUC = 198 US Dollars. This could keep a Cubano alive for 2 months! Of course, one could play around with the numbers and maybe shave a little here and a little there.

Many mongers have suggested that the only way to get pvssy is to have a car. A cheap rental car + gas + parking (or security) costs 70 CUC/day (subtract the 20 in taxi - it adds to your 50 cuc/day budget - putting your new budget at $258 US Dollars/day.Shit, that much of money!

That's like $1,800 a week. That's why I prefer an all inclusive hotel, my trip to holguin in October will cost me $399 for a week ($199 + $200 Tax) in a 4 star hotel. Now I just need to worry on a cheap car rental and the money spend for the chicas.

[Jonesie]

Shit, that much of money!

That's like $1,800 a week. That's why I prefer an all inclusive hotel, my trip to holguin in October will cost me $399 for a week ($199 + $200 Tax) in a 4 star hotel. Now I just need to worry on a cheap car rental and the money spend for the chicas.And when you realize you can't take chicas into your hotel.

[Steve Nash]

And when you realize you can't take chicas into your hotel.That would suck!

I'm pretty sure if you give the security guy some money he will let her in, otherwise I just do it in the car around a park which I don't mind, or maybe I should bring my camping tent and go to a seclusive park or beach.

Does anybody have any suggestions of where I can find a seclusive park or beach close to Holguin?

[Adinga]

Nash,

Only an idiots and Italian businessmen bring women back to thier Hotel.

The smart tourists will fuck at a cheap Casa particular and sleep alone at the Hotel (provided he has the disposable income).

Before going to Jose Marti Airport to return home I had a coffee at Melia Cohiba bar around 6.30 am.I watched alot of Cuban girls exiting the Hotel lobby solo.

[Mcpapirico]

That would suck!

I'm pretty sure if you give the security guy some money he will let her in, otherwise I just do it in the car around a park which I don't mind, or maybe I should bring my camping tent and go to a seclusive park or beach.

Does anybody have any suggestions of where I can find a seclusive park or beach close to Holguin?You can now take the chicas into your hotel. You just have to pay for them. Usually, it's between 20CUC and 50CUC, depending on what hotel you're at. And of course, they have to register.

Failing that, yeah, a Casa is the best bet to go. What hotel are you staying at? I'm down there in October too.

There are plenty of beaches in Guardalavaca. But it's all dependent on how far you want to drive and if you ARE driving. Or getting a driver.

Everything's negotiable, though. You'll do fine.

[Steve Nash]

Nash,

Only an idiots and Italian businessmen bring women back to thier Hotel.

The smart tourists will fuck at a cheap Casa particular and sleep alone at the Hotel (provided he has the disposable income).

Before going to Jose Marti Airport to return home I had a coffee at Melia Cohiba bar around 6.30 am.I watched alot of Cuban girls exiting the Hotel lobby solo.Are you trying to call Italian Businessmen idiots?

Or are you trying to call out some of the members of this board who bring their chicas to the hotel by calling them idiots?

Either way I know for sure you are not calling me an idiot since this is my first time going to Cuba, and I still haven't decide where I'm going to fuck.

[El Cubanito]

Nash,

Only an idiots and Italian businessmen bring women back to thier Hotel.

The smart tourists will fuck at a cheap Casa particular and sleep alone at the Hotel (provided he has the disposable income).

Before going to Jose Marti Airport to return home I had a coffee at Melia Cohiba bar around 6.30 am.I watched alot of Cuban girls exiting the Hotel lobby solo.

I personally never stay at Hotels.

[Steve Nash]

Nash,

Only an idiots and Italian businessmen bring women back to thier Hotel.

The smart tourists will fuck at a cheap Casa particular and sleep alone at the Hotel (provided he has the disposable income).

Before going to Jose Marti Airport to return home I had a coffee at Melia Cohiba bar around 6.30 am.I watched alot of Cuban girls exiting the Hotel lobby solo.Are you trying to call the Italian businessmen IDIOTS?

Or are you trying to call all the members on this board who actually bring women to their hotels IDIOTS?

Because all I know is that I'm not an idiot, since I never been to Cuba before and I still haven't decide where I'm going to be banging on October.

[Adinga]

Sorry -- its more of a hasty generalization.

Italian businessmen are notorious for overpaying and this eventually effects all of us financially.In order to reap the rewards in Cuba you MUST stay at a Casa Particular.Theres always a higher police presence around the Hotels and this makes the girls very uncomfortable.

[Steve Nash]

You can now take the chicas into your hotel. You just have to pay for them. Usually, it's between 20CUC and 50CUC, depending on what hotel you're at. And of course, they have to register.

Failing that, yeah, a Casa is the best bet to go. What hotel are you staying at? I'm down there in October too.

There are plenty of beaches in Guardalavaca. But it's all dependent on how far you want to drive and if you ARE driving. Or getting a driver.

Everything's negotiable, though. You'll do fine.I will be in Holguin the first week of October, the resort I'm staying is call Allegro Playa Turquesa, I think is 45 minutes to Guardalavaca beach. I'm planning to go to Guardalava to check out the nightclub "La Roca". Let me know if you will be there around that time, because we can meet up at that nightclub if you want.

[Member #3200]

they are idiots!

we have all seen 1st hand down there how they overpay for the ugliest & darkest of cuban women to a point where they screw up the true market value of 3rd world cuban pussy.

playa de este at certain times during the year is over run by 50+ year old italians with no game. brains & too much money in too tight speedos, close enough to being thongs (barf) doing what they want to do without thinking about others.

[Member #1976]

they are idiots!

we have all seen 1st hand down there how they overpay for the ugliest & darkest of cuban women to a point where they screw up the true market value of 3rd world cuban pussy.

playa de este at certain times during the year is over run by 50+ year old italians with no game. brains & too much money in too tight speedos, close enough to being thongs (barf) doing what they want to do without thinking about others.if you don't have money, stay at home.

[Legal Tender]

they are idiots!

we have all seen 1st hand down there how they overpay for the ugliest & darkest of cuban women to a point where they screw up the true market value of 3rd world cuban pussy.

playa de este at certain times during the year is over run by 50+ year old italians with no game. brains & too much money in too tight speedos, close enough to being thongs (barf) doing what they want to do without thinking about others.

sounds like the capitalist system is working. speedos on those fat bastards is a bit disgusting, but i don't think they give a shit. and, to add insult to injury, they are obviously getting . . . . what they pay for.

[Jonesie]

sounds like the capitalist system is working. speedos on those fat bastards is a bit disgusting, but i don't think they give a shit. and, to add insult to injury, they are obviously getting . . . . what they pay for.i think there should be a law regarding the speedos. but i don't think they get what they pay for. they pay way too much, and get way too little.

italians are fucking obnoxious. being in salon rojo with them reminds me of "night at the roxbury".

[Deep Dive]

I don't have first hand knowledge, how much are the italians paying? Anything more than 100cuc in my book is overpriced. Obviously the higher up the talent scale you go. The closer you will have to pay the 100cuc. But that should be the absolute maximum! Otherwise, it spoils them and sets the bar for the next guy. I've seen many italians walking around with pros, acting like they are fcking rock stars. Don't get it, those girls are for hire and will take all and everyone for the highest price the next day. I've seen many bring their girls in for a bite to eat at prado y neptuno. I mean after paying the price, they're actully feeding them!

That's just stupid.

[Misinformation]

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Also the fares I see out of YYZ on Air Transat and Sunwing are great but the Canada taxes are fucking insane. Tack on $200 or so and forget about Canada


Leaving from Toronto to Varadero. This is good for teh folks that live around the NYC area. It is a 6 hour drive from NYC to Toronto.

[Member #4167]

Shit, that much of money!

That's like $1,800 a week. That's why I prefer an all inclusive hotel, my trip to holguin in October will cost me $399 for a week ($199 + $200 Tax) in a 4 star hotel. Now I just need to worry on a cheap car rental and the money spend for the chicas.1. Because the AIs are located in the tourist ghettos, you will have a hard time finding chocha in or around an all inclusive. You will have to find a jeva and import her into the AI area. I would not suggest doing this because this is risky for the girls. Look what happened to recent mongers who brought talent with them to Guardalavaca. The lagra (policia) intercepted the monger's cubanas and whisked them away - never to be seen again. I feel bad for those girls - they were just trying to earn a little money and have a little fun and now they are probably in jail. Based on this, I would avoid bringing girls to AI resorts like Veradero, Guardalavaca, etc. Perhaps this is a renewed crackdown?

2. Their is no such thing as a CHEAP rental car in Cuba.

[Member #4167]

Sorry -- its more of a hasty generalization.

Italian businessmen are notorious for overpaying and this eventually effects all of us financially.In order to reap the rewards in Cuba you MUST stay at a Casa Particular.Theres always a higher police presence around the Hotels and this makes the girls very uncomfortable.I agree with Brother Adinga that a CP is a must. The rules have been softened, and now allow Cubanas into Hotels. However, there will be a surcharge for bringing them in. Secondly, you risk greater police scrutiny. This is bad for the girls.

I also agree with Brother Adinga that the Italian businessmen are notorious overpayers. Spaniards, however are notoriously cheap in Cuba.

[Jonesie]

Prelude - Jonesie the Tour Guide

I had just arrived home from my last trip 2 weeks ago and was dropping off some cigars to a friend when I walked by a table of friends at a restaurant. They were having dinner and discussing a possible trip to Cuba. Asking for advise. The discussion went a little like this...

Good Doctor: Hey, we were just talking about going to Cuba soon.
Me: Cool, I just got back today.
Good Doctor: Why don't you help us?
Me: Sure, I can put you in touch with some people, just let me know when you're thinking of going.
Good Doctor: In a couple of weeks.
Me: Ok, let me know what you need
Good Doctor: Why don't you come with us?
Me: I just got back, and I only budget for a trip a month
El Jeffe: What if we bought your ticket and paid for your stay?
Me: Thanks, but I still would have to work things out for while I'm gone.
El Jeffe: It's easy, we'll buy your ticket, and we'll all carry some cigars back for you.
Me: Really
El Jeffe, looks around table: I think everyone would be ok with that.
Me: Count me in...

So I booked all the flights, the casas, and arranged the other things while we were there.

First Day - A deal is never as agreed

Sadly, the value of the Cuban agreement is useless. People take $10 today, if it will cost them $100 tomorrow.

I had called to make the reservations at Casa Gladys on the water and confirmed it on Wednesday before our trip. 4 Rooms, 80cuc per night, 3 nights.

http://www.cuba-junky.com/havana/casa_club_manolos_miramar.html

When we arrived, we were informed that only 2 rooms were available for our first night, but if we returned at 3am the next morning, the other two would be available. She had made reservations for two of us nearby. Apparently, 2 Mexicans showed up on Thursday needing rooms for a couple of days.

Unwilling to let go of the bird in hand, they took the request and figured we would adjust to whatever they decided.

Knowing this might happen, I had made tenative reservations at another house. Which I decided we needed to move on.

http://www.casaparticular.org/viewproperty.asp?code=HAV515&Lang=0

While I was explaining the situation to the guys about the new house, the lady heard about the secondary arrangements and called our new casa to demand a commission for the referral. After much ado, I explained that I'd made the reservations independently and they owed no commission to the house that screwed us over...

Everything worked out, but my friends didn't have the best first impression of Cuba...


First Day - Room Service

We arrived at our new house and it was nice. Big house, nice pool, great staff. Being as I was "working", I got the worst room. Which was still pretty nice.

We register with the house, I call my guy with Cubataxi to bring the van, and we're set.

El Jeffe asked me to have the house make us some lunch, so we had Lobster tail, shrimp, and sweet plantains for lunch. Afterward, he asked me to call over some entertainment. So I call over a few favorites from past trips that I'm sure everyone would like. An hour later, 7 girls show up with bikinis, but only 4 are allowed to stay. Everyone pairs off and the weekend has started...

I picked Dyanna. She's more or less my new favorite. She explained to me that she'd just finished her period, but if I didn't mind, I could do her in the ass...

I told her we could probably work something out...

Dyanna

First Night - Roadkill

After the festivities of our first day, we decided to hit La Cecelia. So we had our trusty driver load us up and take us. On the way, while driving down Avenida 5, we spotted 3 girls with really nice bodies waiting at a bus stop. We had the van pull over and I explained that there was no good reason to wait at the bust stop while we had a perfectly good van. They hopped in. Being the "guide", I was stuck with what was left. Yamila had an amazing natural body with a homely face.

Against my advise, the guys wanted to take the girls to La Cecelia. I explained the "sand to the beach" thing, to no avail.

We got to La Cecelia, which was packed with some of the best candy you could hope for. I interviewed several girls for El Jeffe, but he had already gone a round with Mary earlier, and had his share of wine for the day. So we all went back to the casa with the same girls we arrived with...

Second Day - Wasn't me...

I woke up Saturday morning with wood and immediately stuck Yamila with it. Afterward, she went to the bathroom. We hadn't talked about money, but I planned to give her some cash for a job well done. I looked in my pockets and counted 160cuc. I figured I'd ask her how much she needed and if it was reasonable, I'd do it.

I took a shower. When I returned, I told her I'd like to give her some money to buy something she wanted. She told me whatever I thought was fair would suffice. So I grabbed my pants and pulled... 70cuc out. I searched the other pockets and found nothing.

Realizing she had just clipped me for 90cuc while I was in the shower, I asked her WTF?!?

She told me I was drunk the night before and maybe I'd miscounted. She may not have noticed that I DON'T DRINK! I then told her that I'd counted 20 minutes before, and that she'd been the only one in the room the entire time I was in the shower. She insisted.

I told her I had planned to give her something for a nice night with two sessions, and I guess the price was now 90cuc. And she also needed to leave now.

She insisted, etc.., but leave she did.

Second Day - Eggs Neptune

After explaining to my klepto why I didn't need to give her taxi money to go home, I went to the kitchen and told our houselady to make some breakfast. She asked what we'd like, so I told her some eggs with something. She suggested lobster. It sounded pretty good. So she made scrambled eggs with lobster, chives, and where she got hollendaise sauce, I couldn't tell you... But it was delicious.

Afterward, we hung out by the pool and smoked cigars. Until El Jeffe asked me to "make the call" again. He asked me to call Mary over again, and the other guys still had their road kill from the night before. So I called over one of the girls I had interviewed the night before at La Ceclelia.

Mary

Maria

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