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Chris Long
01-27-15, 06:04
Chris, I am the guy you hung out with last weekend on Duarte, As we discussed over the weekend the airfares to POP are friggin ridiculous. I am in South Fla and fly out of FLL and MIA and it cost me more than double to fly to POP. Even though I would rather go to Sosua for me it's just not worth it. For the $600 + it would cost me to go to Sosua I can fly into SDQ take a cab to Boca rent a room for 4 days and pay for my first 2-3 sessions. Food and drink are not much of a factor for me because they are cheap in both places plus I have to eat no matter where I am. In terms of talent there is enough in Boca to keep a man satisfied for a few days.Hey good to hear from you. It was great meeting you and hanging out with you for the last few days of my trip. You can't imagine how sad and depressed I was when I had to leave and my plane touched down in Miami for my connecting flight, the best way to handle post monger withdraw is to always have another trip booked for the future. How was Paola I hope she lived your expectations, I always enjoyed being with her in the past. I ended up going to Batey later that night and taking the Haitian girl who didn't have her I'd, I've seen her a few times in the past and she is one the best on the Island in my opinion.
You are right about the frigging ridiculous airfare to POP I can get to SDQ for nearly half of what its costing me now to go to POP. The money I'm saving by going to Boca for a quick little four or five day weekend will cover my hotel cost and my fist couple days of screwing.
Keep in touch.
Chriss
Thanks Surfer, yes there was some fine chicas in Sosua on this trip and I do prefer Sosua over Boca, however I do enjoy Boca and never really found it to be as bad as others seem to find it. I have always found enough hot chicas in Boca to keep me happy. There is a lot of similarity between both places in my opinion, and on many, many occasions I have ran into a girl in Boca I first met in Sosua and vice versa I have run into chicas in Sosua I first met in Boca. I love both places and there is a special place in my monger hart for Sosua however Boca is a good lower cost alternative. Flights are cheaper, the chicas generally go for 1000 p to 1500 p hotel and food is about the same in both places. Below are some pictures of some of my Boca chicas.Chris as always I love your selections.
Chris as always I love your selections.GrownMan, it is apparent that Chris is a babe magnet and we are not.
Member #4480
01-28-15, 01:20
Hey good to hear from you. It was great meeting you and hanging out with you for the last few days of my trip. You can't imagine how sad and depressed I was when I had to leave and my plane touched down in Miami for my connecting flight, the best way to handle post monger withdraw is to always have another trip booked for the future. How was Paola I hope she lived your expectations, I always enjoyed being with her in the past. I ended up going to Batey later that night and taking the Haitian girl who didn't have her I'd, I've seen her a few times in the past and she is one the best on the Island in my opinion.
You are right about the frigging ridiculous airfare to POP I can get to SDQ for nearly half of what its costing me now to go to POP. The money I'm saving by going to Boca for a quick little four or five day weekend will cover my hotel cost and my fist couple days of screwing.
Keep in touch.
ChrissWhere did you stay in Boca?
GrownMan, it is apparent that Chris is a babe magnet and we are not.Speak for yourself with your psycho chica magnetism. I recognize two girls that I knocked off.
Speak for yourself with your psycho chica magnetism. I recognize two girls that I knocked off.So you knocked up two of them.
Spreading your seed around in the armpit of the DR.
God forbid if those offspring of yours are boys.
Will then have some future GrownMen to deal with on this Site.
Hey good to hear from you. It was great meeting you and hanging out with you for the last few days of my trip. You can't imagine how sad and depressed I was when I had to leave and my plane touched down in Miami for my connecting flight, the best way to handle post monger withdraw is to always have another trip booked for the future. How was Paola I hope she lived your expectations, I always enjoyed being with her in the past. I ended up going to Batey later that night and taking the Haitian girl who didn't have her I'd, I've seen her a few times in the past and she is one the best on the Island in my opinion.
You are right about the frigging ridiculous airfare to POP I can get to SDQ for nearly half of what its costing me now to go to POP. The money I'm saving by going to Boca for a quick little four or five day weekend will cover my hotel cost and my fist couple days of screwing.
Keep in touch.
ChrissChris, Paola was fine but the star of the weekend was the chica who bussed in from Higuey. She was awesome. I booked another WW trip for Presidents day weekend and the airfare on AA was $327 for the same time period the airfare would have been nearly $700 to POP. I just checked and airfares from MIA-POP for the same weekend and they are now over $800. (this is for a friggin 1:45 plane ride, fuck that.) The $350 I save in airfare will pay for my chicas and hotel room for the weekend, plus leave me a few extra dollars for whatever. The other advantage of flying from MIA or FLL to SDQ is that you have 4 airlines servicing the route which leads to lower prices for us.
I have checked airfares to POP for different periods up until the week of July 4th and they are in the $650 + range. If you cash in miles on AA it would be about 70,000 miles. Certainly not worth it. I like Sosua better but a these price points I have to pass.
I use to fly into SD and take the bus to Sosua. The bus costs like $8 but takes 4 to 5 hours but saving $200 is worth it to me. On my next trip I have booked a flight to Santiago which is about the same as flights to SD. Santiago is 48 miles from Sosua and the bus ride takes about an hour and costs $4 dollars. I will let you guys know how I make out. On my last trip I had one of chica meet me in SD and spend the night. I had a great time with her and caught a early bus to Sosua. I know how to enjoy SD but Sosua is such wild and fun place, I could have a great time in BC but Sosua is so much better then BC.
Chris, Paola was fine but the star of the weekend was the chica who bussed in from Higuey. She was awesome. I booked another WW trip for Presidents day weekend and the airfare on AA was $327 for the same time period the airfare would have been nearly $700 to POP. I just checked and airfares from MIA-POP for the same weekend and they are now over $800. (this is for a friggin 1:45 plane ride, fuck that.) The $350 I save in airfare will pay for my chicas and hotel room for the weekend, plus leave me a few extra dollars for whatever. The other advantage of flying from MIA or FLL to SDQ is that you have 4 airlines servicing the route which leads to lower prices for us.
I have checked airfares to POP for different periods up until the week of July 4th and they are in the $650 + range. If you cash in miles on AA it would be about 70,000 miles. Certainly not worth it. I like Sosua better but a these price points I have to pass.
I will be in Boca Chica Feb 18,1 or 2 nights. I plan to stay at the Villa Capri. Any frequent flyer Mongers going to be there, to pass along there knowledge? I have read lots of post. Looks like fun.
Camaro1257
01-28-15, 11:41
I use to fly into SD and take the bus to Sosua. The bus costs like $8 but takes 4 to 5 hours but saving $200 is worth it to me. On my next trip I have booked a flight to Santiago which is about the same as flights to SD. Santiago is 48 miles from Sosua and the bus ride takes about an hour and costs $4 dollars. I will let you guys know how I make out. On my last trip I had one of chica meet me in SD and spend the night. I had a great time with her and caught a early bus to Sosua. I know how to enjoy SD but Sosua is such wild and fun place, I could have a great time in BC but Sosua is so much better then BC.OldKool thanks for your post. I used to check the airfares into POP, STI & SDQ from Atlanta frequently and they were generally only a difference of a few dollars, well after reading your post I decided to check again and I had a "WTF?" moment. ATL to POP and STI was almost the same as usual but ATL to SDQ was over $300.00 less. Needless to say I will be booking into SDQ going forward as long as their is such a great airfare disparity. Thanks again!
I use to fly into SD and take the bus to Sosua. The bus costs like $8 but takes 4 to 5 hours but saving $200 is worth it to me. On my next trip I have booked a flight to Santiago which is about the same as flights to SD. Santiago is 48 miles from Sosua and the bus ride takes about an hour and costs $4 dollars. I will let you guys know how I make out. On my last trip I had one of chica meet me in SD and spend the night. I had a great time with her and caught a early bus to Sosua. I know how to enjoy SD but Sosua is such wild and fun place, I could have a great time in BC but Sosua is so much better then BC.OldKool, everyone places a different value on their time. It also depends on how long of a trip you are taking. If it is a week or more the time becomes less valuable. However, your calculations are off by 50%. 5 hours from SDQ to Sosua and another 5 hours back. In other words 10 hours total not 5. 1. 5 + hours from Santiago to Sosua on the bus not 1 hour. You also have to factor in cab fare ect. For me on a 3-4 day trip not worth it for others it's worth it, as they say TEHO.
Flying into SDQ will always save money but if you are going to Sosua they are a lot to consider. If you miss your bus going back to SDQ you will loose any savings.
I use to fly into SD and take the bus to Sosua. The bus costs like $8 but takes 4 to 5 hours but saving $200 is worth it to me. On my next trip I have booked a flight to Santiago which is about the same as flights to SD. Santiago is 48 miles from Sosua and the bus ride takes about an hour and costs $4 dollars. I will let you guys know how I make out. On my last trip I had one of chica meet me in SD and spend the night. I had a great time with her and caught a early bus to Sosua. I know how to enjoy SD but Sosua is such wild and fun place, I could have a great time in BC but Sosua is so much better then BC.My man T is in Sosua right now kool. This is how he traveled. He flew into Santiago. Caught the bus to Sosua. I gave him the game plan and it was easy for him. His only problem was the cab driver insist on driving him to Sosua for $95. After he explained but he just wanted a ride to the bus station the cab driver try to take him to Sosua anyway. T said did cab driver went and said something to the lady at the ticket counter and he ask the lady for a ticket to Sosua and she said there were no more tickets. He called me complaining I told him to walk away wait 10 minutes and go back up there and they sold him a ticket. the cab ride from the airport to the bus station was $20
OldKool thanks for your post. I used to check the airfares into POP, STI & SDQ from Atlanta frequently and they were generally only a difference of a few dollars, well after reading your post I decided to check again and I had a "WTF?" moment. ATL to POP and STI was almost the same as usual but ATL to SDQ was over $300.00 less. Needless to say I will be booking into SDQ going forward as long as their is such a great airfare disparity. Thanks again!You know what's funny is cheaper to fly from Jacksonville to Atlanta and then DR then to fly from Atlanta to DR. My friend paid about 510 round trip and I paid 390. We had the same flights in Atlanta. The same thing sometimes from Jacksonville through Miami to the DR. It may be ab 8 to 20 dollar difference.
I use what would be normal down time for the bus travel. Leave SD around 10 am arrive in Sosua around checkin time 2 pm. The buses are decent and rest and enjoy the ride. Spending the night in SD is usually fun for me. There also many buses returning to SD on both Mtro and Caribe.
OldKool, everyone places a different value on their time. It also depends on how long of a trip you are taking. If it is a week or more the time becomes less valuable. However, your calculations are off by 50%. 5 hours from SDQ to Sosua and another 5 hours back. In other words 10 hours total not 5. 1. 5 + hours from Santiago to Sosua on the bus not 1 hour. You also have to factor in cab fare ect. For me on a 3-4 day trip not worth it for others it's worth it, as they say TEHO.
My man T is in Sosua right now kool. This is how he traveled. He flew into Santiago. Caught the bus to Sosua. I gave him the game plan and it was easy for him. His only problem was the cab driver insist on driving him to Sosua for $95. After he explained but he just wanted a ride to the bus station the cab driver try to take him to Sosua anyway. T said did cab driver went and said something to the lady at the ticket counter and he ask the lady for a ticket to Sosua and she said there were no more tickets. He called me complaining I told him to walk away wait 10 minutes and go back up there and they sold him a ticket. the cab ride from the airport to the bus station was $20They always try to upsell you on the ride all the way to Puerto Plata or Sosua. Incidentally, if you are DR savvy and don't have a lot of baggage, you can also ask to be taken to the parada of Puerto Plata for Javilla Tours where they have smaller buses leaving every 15 minutes for Puerto Plata. From Puerto Plata you can take a moto to the parada de Sosua at the public hospital and then take a publico taxi to Sosua.
Why bother? Well, if you have just missed a Caribe tours bus and will have to wait another hour for the next one, this will get you to Sosua rather quicker.
The $20 from STI to the bus terminals is a bit steep, but better value that the same fare from POP to Sosua, which is much closer.
They always try to upsell you on the ride all the way to Puerto Plata or Sosua. Incidentally, if you are DR savvy and don't have a lot of baggage, you can also ask to be taken to the parada of Puerto Plata for Javilla Tours where they have smaller buses leaving every 15 minutes for Puerto Plata. From Puerto Plata you can take a moto to the parada de Sosua at the public hospital and then take a publico taxi to Sosua.
Why bother? Well, if you have just missed a Caribe tours bus and will have to wait another hour for the next one, this will get you to Sosua rather quicker.
The $20 from STI to the bus terminals is a bit steep, but better value that the same fare from POP to Sosua, which is much closer.On my trip before last I flew into SD and then drove to Sosua. You can rent cars for very cheap in SD. You also can take the toll road which is a very easy drive with very few cars. I made it in less than four hours each way last time. No dealing with bus's or taxis either. This will cost more than taking the bus but will save you a lot of time.
Charles Pooter
01-28-15, 23:04
Incidentally, if you are DR savvy and don't have a lot of baggage, you can also ask to be taken to the parada of Puerto Plata for Javilla Tours where they have smaller buses leaving every 15 minutes for Puerto Plata.Can be quite an experience. The buses are very basic and make many stops. I think they stop on demand like a publico but I could be wrong. They can get packed and standing passengers are accepted. At different times I have had a small sack of seed-corn and a six-month-old baby dumped on my lap, though both times thankfully only on the Navarete to Pto Pta leg. I have seen a piglet, a performing parrot, a propane cylinder and a brace of fighting cocks inside on different trips. Not recommended to our more snobbish or metrosexual members. Their expensive cologne won't help them here.
Good choice for those going to Blackbeards as these buses will stop at the entrada to Costambar, unlike the Metro or Caribe buses. Only if you are travelling light enough to do the last leg by moto, though.
From Puerto Plata you can take a moto to the parada de Sosua at the public hospital and then take a publico taxi to Sosua.The buses from Santiago always used to go past La Javilla to the hospital then loop back through the town to their depot at La Javilla. I cannot swear they still do as it is six years since I made that journey. But most people alighted at the hospital rather than at La Javilla, so I guess that is their usual routine.
I use what would be normal down time for the bus travel. Leave SD around 10 am arrive in Sosua around checkin time 2 pm. The buses are decent and rest and enjoy the ride. Spending the night in SD is usually fun for me. There also many buses returning to SD on both Mtro and Caribe.Excellent reply OldKool, I never thought about it that way. It normally takes me about 6 hours for my batteries to get recharged. After the morning roll I could just recharge them on the bus.
Tempoecorto
01-29-15, 05:03
Can be quite an experience. The buses are very basic and make many stops. I think they stop on demand like a publico but I could be wrong. They can get packed and standing passengers are accepted. At different times I have had a small sack of seed-corn and a six-month-old baby dumped on my lap, though both times thankfully only on the Navarete to Pto Pta leg. I have seen a piglet, a performing parrot, a propane cylinder and a brace of fighting cocks inside on different trips. Not recommended to our more snobbish or metrosexual members. Their expensive cologne won't help them here.I did the la Javilla once late 2012 - back and forth from Santiago. And yes, it was a riot. The stops were regular though. No aircon, at least in my bus and more crowded compared to metro. I also think they did the hospital and back to the terminus loop but I did not know the town then so I did not get off there. I got a moto, taking me to Portofino from the terminus.
It was an interesting sampling of the place and culturally intriguing. Would love to do it anytime.
A tank of gas has got to be at least $60 in the DR and you will use two. The bus takes 5 hrs and I can sleep. Not to mention it costs $8. I have very little use for a car in Sosua. I know how to use the public to go to Caberet for $1.
On my trip before last I flew into SD and then drove to Sosua. You can rent cars for very cheap in SD. You also can take the toll road which is a very easy drive with very few cars. I made it in less than four hours each way last time. No dealing with bus's or taxis either. This will cost more than taking the bus but will save you a lot of time.
A tank of gas has got to be at least $60 in the DR and you will use two. The bus takes 5 hrs and I can sleep. Not to mention it costs $8. I have very little use for a car in Sosua. I know how to use the public to go to Caberet for $1.Up until my last two trips I used both the public taxis and guaugas for transport all around Sosua and its dirt cheap. I need a car in Sosua because I hit the surf spots every morning, fortunately money is not an issue for me so I enjoy the luxury of being able to come and go as I please with out being crammed into a can like a sardine and / or waiting.
Off to BC in a few, then to Santiago. Can't wait. First trip through BC. Thanks for the post and help everyone.
Off to BC in a few, then to Santiago. Can't wait. First trip through BC. Thanks for the post and help everyone.Have a great time Teebone. You will not find more aggressive touts than you will meet in BC. Stand firm. They will want to arrange everything for you, including food. For example, if you let them "recommend" a restaurant on the beach, they will intervene as your waiter and try to charge you 75 $ for lunch. Same with just about about everything else. Don't even get started in a conversation. Just say "No soy tan tonto" (I'm not that stupid) and turn your back. If you drive in BC, expect to pay a bribe or two for bogus traffic violations. I love the trashiness and seediness of BC. Be selective on chicas since there are plenty to choose from. Have a blast.
JesseJames
02-08-15, 17:03
Have a great time Teebone. You will not find more aggressive touts than you will meet in BC. Stand firm. They will want to arrange everything for you, including food. For example, if you let them "recommend" a restaurant on the beach, they will intervene as your waiter and try to charge you 75 $ for lunch. Same with just about about everything else. Don't even get started in a conversation. Just say "No soy tan tonto" (I'm not that stupid) and turn your back. If you drive in BC, expect to pay a bribe or two for bogus traffic violations. I love the trashiness and seediness of BC. Be selective on chicas since there are plenty to choose from. Have a blast.How do you handle the muggings and getting robbed? This is a serious question. I was robbed there but did enjoy the seediness and the low down hoes. Didn't like getting robbed and I'm older now. Why not hire one of those characters as a body guard? If he's making a few bucks off you, he'll keep the violent clowns away. I don't mean being a chump and paying $75 for lunch. Let him make $25 or so over the course of a day. Paying protection. You can't fight off three guys but he may keep them away. Of course, don't turn your back on him either. Just a new approach.
Have a great time Teebone. You will not find more aggressive touts than you will meet in BC. Stand firm. They will want to arrange everything for you, including food. For example, if you let them "recommend" a restaurant on the beach, they will intervene as your waiter and try to charge you 75 $ for lunch. Same with just about about everything else. Don't even get started in a conversation. Just say "No soy tan tonto" (I'm not that stupid) and turn your back. If you drive in BC, expect to pay a bribe or two for bogus traffic violations. I love the trashiness and seediness of BC. Be selective on chicas since there are plenty to choose from. Have a blast.Thanks for the advice Strike. I have been traveling for some time but still like experienced advice from comrades.
Mr Enternational
02-09-15, 08:00
Why even go if you are worried about getting robbed or swindled and have to think about an extortion payment? What kind of vacation is that? I just left there about an hour ago and the place sucked. Maybe I got there too late and all the attractive women were already gone. My dad said we would have come out better with the street walkers that we saw in Santo Domingo before going to Boca Chica.
JesseJames
02-09-15, 16:58
Why even go if you are worried about getting robbed or swindled and have to think about an extortion payment? What kind of vacation is that? I just left there about an hour ago and the place sucked. Maybe I got there too late and all the attractive women were already gone. My dad said we would have come out better with the street walkers that we saw in Santo Domingo before going to Boca Chica.Overall, it BC sucks.
BC is just our second best option. It is like a CBJ if you can not get a uncovered BJ the CBJ is great. BC is the step sister of Sosua. Everything is just a little less and the touts are off the charts. SD low life flock there to make a quick buck. For me BC is a last resort but is good to options.
Overall, it BC sucks.
BC is just our second best option. It is like a CBJ if you can not get a uncovered BJ the CBJ is great. BC is the step sister of Sosua. Everything is just a little less and the touts are off the charts. SD low life flock there to make a quick buck. For me BC is a last resort but is good to options.BC is disgusting, besides the relentless touts, hustlers, beggars, and ugly woman the beach is a garbage dump.
Mr Enternational
02-10-15, 00:39
I decided to come back to Boca Chica for a couple of hours while my girlfriend in Santo Domingo gets ready. Right now at 7:30 pm there is a decent selection. Damn sure beats what was here late last night. Still, if you are coming here on vacation Sosua is where you want to be. Don't cheat yourself, treat yourself.
And yeah what Surfer said. I got here right before he sun fell and in one place the beach did look like a litteral garbage dump right before the water line. There were beer bottles, soft drink bottles, paper plates, etc. It looked like a big group just had a cookout there and left all their trash for high tide to come take away.
Amigo of King
02-15-15, 16:23
Well I have been living in Santo Domingo since Nov 1, and have decided to take day trip to beach. Every thing written here says don't go to Boca Chica. So I will take the express bus to Jaun Dolio.
Well I have been living in Santo Domingo since Nov 1, and have decided to take day trip to beach. Every thing written here says don't go to Boca Chica. So I will take the express bus to Jaun Dolio.Huh! You have been living in SD since November and have never been to Boca Chica or Juan Dolio? Do you stay in the house much? What have you been doing in SD? It's got to be an interesting story here somewhere. You didn't checkout the surrounding areas before you moved to SD? Inquiring minds want to know.
Amigo of King
02-15-15, 18:26
Huh! You have been living in SD since November and have never been to Boca Chica or Juan Dolio? Do you stay in the house much? What have you been doing in SD? It's got to be an interesting story here somewhere. You didn't checkout the surrounding areas before you moved to SD? Inquiring minds want to know.I have been coming to Dominican Republic since 1984. Have been to Boca Chica, Higyue, La Romana, San Pedro, Bani, Santiago, Sammana, Monti Christi and more. I remember the days of the San Geronimo Hotel on Independencia and the Petite Chateua. I still like the capital best of all. Have not been to Boca Chica in years. I am just looking for a quiet day at beach with no one bothering me.
I have been coming to Dominican Republic since 1984. Have been to Boca Chica, Higyue, La Romana, San Pedro, Bani, Santiago, Sammana, Monti Christi and more. I remember the days of the San Geronimo Hotel on Independencia and the Petite Chateua. I still like the capital best of all. Have not been to Boca Chica in years. I am just looking for a quiet day at beach with no one bothering me.Then you have the right idea go to JD beach. Its much more quite and very few touts.
Amigo of King
02-17-15, 15:53
Then you have the right idea go to JD beach. Its much more quite and very few touts.I am in the bus now 100 Road.
My first report a Boca Chica. As many have said it is a rundown third country city. I arrived yesterday and made three good friends in the Dominican republic army. As a matter fact they gave me a lay of the land and phone numbers for them should I run into any trouble, especially with the policia!
Last night I made my way to batey, The place was dead at 11:00 PM, I think I was the only patron. Made my way to the highway biker bar? Met some chicas along the way, did not want to take first round. Then came Liliana from Santo Domingo. You could tell she was new because she kept asking her Amiga for information and help with prices. A nice busty gal (photos soon to follow) made a deal for the entire night, 2500 including propina. My biggest problem is the days to come, I started Dominican Cupid last week and I now have 225 women to schedule in the next few days. LOL I think I have it narrowed down to about two dozen 9's and 10's! I am going to be exhausted!
More to follow.
My first report a Boca Chica. As many have said it is a rundown third country city. I arrived yesterday and made three good friends in the Dominican republic army. As a matter fact they gave me a lay of the land and phone numbers for them should I run into any trouble, especially with the policia!
Last night I made my way to batey, The place was dead at 11:00 PM,
More to follow.The Batey does not usually get going until after midnight. Right around the time the places on Duarte shut down the Batey gets cranking.
As I mentioned before, Liliana took my Boca Chica virginity. She was new to the hobby but very good in the bed. Picked her up at Highway 69. She was very good with the BBBJ. I would revisit, great kisser nice tits a little bit soft in the belly but overall very good. She claims to have had three orgasms in first session and it showed. 2500 all night. No issues.
Last night I had a friend come over from a town near Santo Domingo. She said she needed money for a babysitter, I said it was okay. Half hour later someone calls the hotel to confirm my lodging and assumed it was her and she confirmed it. No big deal. Within a few hours she showed up from the bus. Can the skinny but friendly and extremely clean. Went to Grab a bite to eat for dinner. She was relatively Smart about the cost and keeping the Touts? Away. Had a few beers then went to my hotel we got there and quickly went to business. Immediately found out no BJ. Figured I could make it happen anyway. Pretty good super firm and extremely tight, muscular. Was covered so it was difficult and decided to finish manually, she was very helpful. Shortly afterwards, she started discussing then there'll for the autobus home in the morning. No problem everything else that went smoothly and I had given her one of my dresses as propani. Lying in bed she began to question how much help I was going to give her for college. I was stunned but she insisted that I had claimed do you want to help her. To the tune of 3000RD. I was a little put off, but when the tears started I started to think maybe I had said something at one time? So my soft her gave her 3000. This is after she already claimed her bus ride would be 1000. Boy what a sucker I was. Good thing I locked everything else up in the safe, including phone and everything else I could fit in there. In the morning she had packed her bag to the top with additional dresses and panties I had brought for others and slid out of the door before I woke. Jahajaja yeah it pissed me off, but Little did she know those were $1. 99 panties and a 4. 99 discount dress. So WinTOTAL my Dominican Cupid friend made off with 4000RD four pair panties and three dresses. Not a bad haul for a 110 lb hooker thief. Nonetheless when I awoke I WhatsApp her and told her I knew what she had done and she was a thief. She immediately claimed she only left with what I had gave her as gifts. Hahahaha I threatened to call the police and she said she would return everything if I did not. I was on my way to pick up another Amiga in huigey so I told the security guard to look for the girl returning items she left with. She tried to claim I needed to pay for her bus ride again if she returned. Hahahaha when I arrived later that afternoon I see that she had not brought anything back. Big surprise!
Here are her photos, I hope some of my monger colleagues contact her and stiff on everything they can. Here are her photos and PM me for contact information. I "Took one for the team", I hope someone contact her and pull a quick one on her. I know I would appreciate it and enjoy the laugh when I hear about it.
As I said earlier, the pussy was really good extremely tight but she's a thief working girl.
Mr Enternational
02-21-15, 22:02
Thanks for the great reports TeeBone. And way to fucking scare her ass. It's not always the cost; it's the principle. Why did you give her the money the night before though? Many people agree that it is better to give them the money when they are leaving and while outside of your room in case they decide to start any shit.
You have been reading my reports well I see LOL. Let me tell you the bus rides are only 200 pesos so she is a thief and liar. I always asked a chica at the beginning how much did you pay for the bus ride. And don't believe that I took a cab shit! If she lies and you still want to pussy tell her to take it our of the money you gave her. Always make her think you are broke until money come in later from the US. Have the amount you are going to give her already out in 1 pocket the rest in the safe. When a puta see you pull out a lot of money - here she comes. Your puta played the tear game on you. She thought you were a nice guy then play and prey on that. I must say she looks good.
You have been reading my reports well I see LOL. Let me tell you the bus rides are only 200 pesos so she is a thief and liar. I always asked a chica at the beginning how much did you pay for the bus ride. And don't believe that I took a cab shit! If she lies and you still want to pussy tell her to take it our of the money you gave her. Always make her think you are broke until money come in later from the US. Have the amount you are going to give her already out in 1 pocket the rest in the safe. When a puta see you pull out a lot of money - here she comes. Your puta played the tear game on you. She thought you were a nice guy then play and prey on that. I must say she looks good.She had a shit eating grin on her face in the photo's and looked like a shark but I liked the photo's of her sticky looking pussy, yummy. Teebone get's credit for having all his other shit locked up in the safe.
Shit happens when mongering in 3rd world countries just chalk it up to experience and move on.
My advice is to feel the chica out or interview her over a few drinks before bringing her to the hotel.
Also remember that alot of Dominican girls use cocaine so keep your eyes open for erratic behavior when mongering in and around the major cities (Santo Domingo and Santiago).
Last night, the 24th, at about 7 PM the Batey was closed by the authorities. Rumor has it that selling alcoholic beverages to minors was the cause and that it will remain closed for 3 months. I personally have seen that security does not request ID's from questionable young things so it does not come as a surprise. Patrons and working girls were walking up and down the Duarte seemingly disoriented. It remains to be seem if business as the Criolla, Jo Mi disco, Tentaciones and the soon too reopen Piano Bar take advantage of the situation and by offering specials or reducing prices to the Batey level, create a palatable alternative. I,knowing the lack of imagination and business acumen of the 3 owners, Italian and Dominican, doubt it very much. These people don't understand a price war and giving freebies is alien to then. Time will tell. The high season is starting to fade but still there are nice talent to be found.
Last night, the 24th, at about 7 PM the Batey was closed by the authorities. Rumor has it that selling alcoholic beverages to minors was the cause and that it will remain closed for 3 months. I personally have seen that security does not request ID's from questionable young things so it does not come as a surprise. Patrons and working girls were walking up and down the Duarte seemingly disoriented. It remains to be seem if business as the Criolla, Jo Mi disco, Tentaciones and the soon too reopen Piano Bar take advantage of the situation and by offering specials or reducing prices to the Batey level, create a palatable alternative. I,knowing the lack of imagination and business acumen of the 3 owners, Italian and Dominican, doubt it very much. These people don't understand a price war and giving freebies is alien to then. Time will tell. The high season is starting to fade but still there are nice talent to be found.I heard the same thing from my boys there now. I will be there tomorrow. The Batey was the only good spot where the chicas who didn't walk the strip went.
I heard the same thing from my boys there now. I will be there tomorrow. The Batey was the only good spot where the chicas who didn't walk the strip went.What you are saying is true. However after being late in the strip I have to say that the closing of the Batey has brought far more vitality to the Duarte. The Colmados are rocking, everybody closes well past the usual time and tourist money is more widely distributed. Those girls that look down at the ones that walk the Duarte will have to adapt or find another town to sell their charms. I won't miss them. Arrogant, conceited, overpriced until 4 AM and then realize that they are going home without money for lodging or food.
I heard the same thing from my boys there now. I will be there tomorrow. The Batey was the only good spot where the chicas who didn't walk the strip went.Exactly, particularly after midnight. Go figure! Why would you ruin your business by letting some unde*age bitches in your place particularly when they weren't spending any money while they were in the bar?
With the closing of the Batey in BC the people have no direction. The Batey has always been the go to spot for everyone after 1 am. Now people just walk up and down the strip with no direction. The piano bar offers a place to chill but its so small even with the help of the new bars across them it. The area is boring and lacks substances. There are a lot of hatiana here. Some true track star bodies. The word here is it goes up higher than [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls drinking. Palms were not greased properly.
With the closing of the Batey in BC the people have no direction. The Batey has always been the go to spot for everyone after 1 am. Now people just walk up and down the strip with no direction. The piano bar offers a place to chill but its so small even with the help of the new bars across them it. The area is boring and lacks substances. There are a lot of hatiana here. They ought to shut down the entire town, it's a shit hole!
I cannot understand the attraction of this place unless your looking for a deranged psycho sex maniac of course!
I'm heading to BC soon for my first experience. Let me clarify, my first DR experience. Years ago I did the SW scene, all over the US, with a few visits to Tijuana. I've done the escorts and have been to my share of massage parlors. The most common result was disappointment.
I'm not really the type to find it, tap it, kick it out the door. It takes me awhile to find my comfort zone and most pros want to get it over and move to the next. Other than an AMP in the states, long since closed, a MP and an escort in Toronto, the other times have been letdowns.
For years I used the internet, chat rooms, dating sites and had lots of great times. But now I've reached the age where they either want a husband or a sugar daddy. So I decided to go the AI / CI route.
I know the hardcore players and mongers tend to look down on this. I know I could get by for half the price and get more chicas. And I know I could go the DC route and find what I want, and still save money. But I think there are advantages for me at an AI / CI. I don't have to worry about arguments over price and service, I don't have to worry about coming out of the shower to find the chica has tipped herself and cut the stay short and I don't have to wade through a bunch of quickies to find a real GFE. For those of you who enjoy the hunt, I tip my hat to you, but I just want to relax and have a laid-back, while getting laid, vacation.
With all that in mind, does anyone have advice, or experience to share about the AI / CI places in BC? Or advice about BC in general (other than that it's a shithole and the armpit of the DR)?
I am almost 60 year old gentle guy but let me be clear. You are fucking up from the jump. Staying at a AI for mongers is a waste of time and money. They will not let you bring women in unless you pay big fees. BC generaly hAS very little to offer. The beach, touts and general setting leaves a lot to be desired. The women are what you make of them. Be cautious the ladies can eat you a live if you are not careful. I think based on your comments you could be low hanging fruit. So far you have chosen a bad place to monger and the AI makes it more expensive. You seem like the guy who go to a steak house looking for good seafood.
Charles Pooter
03-03-15, 23:09
There is ambiguity over what is meant by "AI".
Normally it means a hotel for couples and families where food and local drinks are included in the price. Not normally of of interest to guys who are in the DR only or mainly to monger as you would have to pay a stiff price to bring chicas into the hotel, and many times it would not be possible at all. You would also be vulnerable to chicas "blackmailing" you by making "scenes'.
A few years ago I met a guy who was staying in Playa Dorada, an all AI hotel complex. He had paid a lot of money to bring in two chicas he had met on the internet. After the first day they were living the high life on his account while he was almost terrified to return to his room and confront them, but was equally scared to leave them to it and go off to Sosua for fear of what expenses or scandal he would return to. All this because he did not want to deal with free-lance chicas in Sosua.
Very occasionally staying in this sort of an AI can be viable if you have got such a good flight+hotel package you save all the extra money you will paying for taxis and short-time room hire. You do miss the benefits of hanging with other mongers for the social life and learning the ropes.
The other meaning of "AI" is a hotel where sex is included as part of a package deal. Many guys find this ideal. Blackbeards is generally considered the best example of this. Reasonably priced and consistent service.
It seems that jjbee has booked into a scheme like this in the BC area. I think he is taking a big risk. Many opportunists and downright con-men offer hotel and chicas packages. All they do is provide the same hotels and chicas you could find for yourself and double the prices. You are restricted in your options and at worst they might conspire with the chicas, and possibly bent police and lawyers (no rarity in the DR) to scam you.
From his post he seems not streetwise and an easy target. No shame in that, we all have to start somewhere, but in that case, why choose Boca Chica? It is the most squalid dump in the DR. Some guys have a good time there but they know how to look after themselves while enjoying its sleazy charms. jjbee is clearly not in that category.
Without jjbee providing enough further information to reassure us he is doing something sensible, I strongly advise him to rethink and book into Blackbeards instead.
I am almost 60 year old gentle guy but let me be clear. You are fucking up from the jump. Staying at a AI for mongers is a waste of time and money. They will not let you bring women in unless you pay big fees. BC generaly hAS very little to offer. The beach, touts and general setting leaves a lot to be desired. The women are what you make of them. Be cautious the ladies can eat you a live if you are not careful. I think based on your comments you could be low hanging fruit. So far you have chosen a bad place to monger and the AI makes it more expensive. You seem like the guy who go to a steak house looking for good seafood.That's why I will be staying at an AI / CI (Chica included). I might be "low hanging fruit" if was trying to find my own talent, but that part is out of the equation. Figuring costs, I will be spending between $150-$200 extra per day, which for me is worth the money to avoid the hassle of having to constantly search for the next chica.
Perhaps my definition needs refined, but I don't consider what I'm looking for as mongering. I'm not looking for a different chica every night, with an extra one or two thrown in every day. Ideally I'd like to spend my time with 1 or 2 different chicas. Someone I can get comfortable with and enjoy without any pretense of a commitment.
I understand where you're coming from, but I'm just different in my approach, because my goals are different. I'm well aware of the reputation BC has, but it works for me this time. Perhaps my next trip I will see the error of my ways and go elsewhere with a different plan.
I appreciate the input.
Yes, I'm booked into something similar to Blackbeard's. There are a few places offering roughly the same thing in BC. I had a few reasons for choosing BC, convenient flight connections, close to the capitol for a sightseeing trip. I spent a few months looking at the options, before making a choice. I chose Club Fantasy Island in BC. It doesn't appear to be a scheme of any sort. The place has been around for 4 years, with the same owner, at the same location. I've read reports from the place from a wide range of people, over a fairly long time period. I've even had quite a few conversations with several past visitors. All reports are that the place is clean and well maintained, with a decent on-site restaurant. All food and drink, for 2 people, is included, and I didn't have to pay a big deposit. I get a free ride from the airport and if everything is not as promised, I can walk away, head to Garant or Villa Capri and go the traditional route, without risking a dollar.
Granted, it could be an elaborate setup, involving 20 to 30 people (or 2 to 3 people, good enough at pretending to fool a long time cynic), hoping to scam me out of a few grand, but I feel confident in my choice. My own opinion, based solely on my research, is that it should be on about the same level as Blackbeard's. My trip is still some time off, but I will be happy to report on the experience afterwards.
Boca Chica is all a man needs until he finds Sosua. For the new guy it is cheap and convenient air travel and within 5 minutes of leaving the airport you are in your hotel and within a hour you have hooked up on your favorite habit and scored your nights lady. It is like the old west. Are you really looking for a new and shinny place to do your deal.
Here's some more information so you can decide if I'm doing something sensible. The place I'm planning on staying is the second variety of AI, ala Blackbeard's. If it's a scheme, someone is wasting their talents. The place has been around for over 4 years with the same owner, at the same location. They have a large number of chicas, that work (in theory) exclusively for them, to choose from. The rates include a chica 24/7, with the opportunity to change every day, all meals and drinks for 2, accomodations in what looks to be an average 3 star hotel, plus transportation to / from the airport. The restaurant and bar is on site and reported to serve good food. The overall price comes out to be about $100 - $200 more per day, versus staying at Villa Capri or Garant, scavenging for my own meals and chicas, and handling the airport transportation myself, if I didn't have any problems with restaurants overcharging, chicas taking their own tip while my back was turned, or taxis being unable to find Boca Chica without charging a ridiculous fee. For me the extra money is worth avoiding the hassles.
I spent a few months going over the options when I decided on this trip, checked out websites and forums, took some time to read reviews, reports and horror stories. I've talked with several former and current customers of the place, and have yet to hear anything negative. Worst case, after the free ride to BC, if everything isn't up to my expectations, I walk away, and make my own arrangements, without losing anything. Nothing has been paid for except my airline tickets.
Why choose BC? It worked out to be more convenient for me and the price was right. I realize it's not the jewel of the Caribbean and I don't mind spending a week in a squalid dump, I've probably seen worse. As for being streetwise, I'm not, but I've always been very good at avoiding trouble. One of the reasons I chose this type of trip, instead of the standard mongering vacation is to avoid the street hassles. I don't want to spend 3 or 4 hours a day, finding and choosing a chica and then haggling over price and service. I don't want to wander around looking for the right restaurant and play dysentery roulette at every meal. I just want to relax and have other people deal with any problems. This place tells me they will do that, and the people I've talked to back that up.
Either I did my research correctly and the place is legit, or it's a very elaborate scam involving quite a few people (or just a few, very convincing actors). Since I don't have to pay until I've seen it with my own eyes, I'm betting on legit. I don't want to advertise for them, but I'll gladly share the information via pm, if you want to do a sanity check on me.
Grandnash84
03-04-15, 07:29
Are there any cabanas on or near the strip? Ill be staying in sd and prob won't want to bring a chica back with me, thanks.
Mr Enternational
03-04-15, 08:08
Are there any cabanas on or near the strip? Ill be staying in sd and prob won't want to bring a chica back with me, thanks.Cabanas no, but there are some fuck rooms. Don't expect any luxuries like a toilet and a shower. The last one I used it looked like the owner used as an electronics repair shop. There were open TVs and shit scrawled all over the room. Who knows what they will charge you. It appeared the girl made the price, because when it came time for me to pay after the deed the guy slyly asked her how much she had told me. I paid 200 pesos.
Charles Pooter
03-04-15, 15:43
Boca Chica is all a man needs until he finds Sosua. ... It is like the old west.Agreed. Maybe not a problem to you or me, bu jjbee has made it quite clear he is not the Wild West type and is prepared to pay a premium to find quite the opposite.
Tempoecorto
03-04-15, 17:21
Without jjbee providing enough further information to reassure us he is doing something sensible, I strongly advise him to rethink and book into Blackbeards instead.I think I would agree with you Charles Pooter. I have not been to Boca Chica or Blackbeard but reading the forum, it does sound like smooth sailing at Blackbeards, something that would not rob JJbee of his pleasure and where he can let his hair down. However, given that he has planned it for Boca Chica, I presume, he is landing in SDQ and one needs to coach him as to how to get to Costambar which is somewhat tortuous, more so because he is a first timer in that land and may or may not speak the local lingo.
Grandnash84
03-04-15, 19:39
Cabanas no, but there are some fuck rooms. Don't expect any luxuries like a toilet and a shower. The last one I used it looked like the owner used as an electronics repair shop. There were open TVs and shit scrawled all over the room. Who knows what they will charge you. It appeared the girl made the price, because when it came time for me to pay after the deed the guy slyly asked her how much she had told me. I paid 200 pesos.Are the fuck rooms advertised or the chica knew of them. Are there any hotels that just chage by the hour? Thanks.
My posts disappeared into limbo, and thinking they were lost forever, I repeated myself. I appreciate the input, it hasn't changed my plans, but I will be more aware, and if the situation arises where you want to tell me "I told you so", I will give you the opportunity. I'll give a full report after my trip and maybe a live update during. I've still got about 7 weeks to wait. Maybe by then the snow will be gone.
Are the fuck rooms advertised or the chica knew of them. Are there any hotels that just chage by the hour? Thanks.There are sereval fuck room in BC. The easies is the place right next to Gustos just walk up stairs and make arrangements with the guy running the place that night. Don't let a street hustler or tout do it for you. Or you can just talk with the security guard at Gustos and make a deal with him for a short time. 500 to 800 pesos until you are finished. He will also make sure the chica don't bullshit you.
Charles Pooter
03-05-15, 16:01
My posts disappeared into limbo, and thinking they were lost forever.If I understand correctly, new posters' posts are delayed for monitoring, as are the posts of some regular posters who have displeased the management in the past. So they turn up out of sequence a day or so later.
BogieMaker
03-06-15, 02:33
Here's some more information so you can decide if I'm doing something sensible. The place I'm planning on staying is the second variety of AI, ala Blackbeard's. If it's a scheme, someone is wasting their talents. The place has been around for over 4 years with the same owner, at the same location. They have a large number of chicas, that work (in theory) exclusively for them, to choose from. The rates include a chica 24/7, with the opportunity to change every day, all meals and drinks for 2, accomodations in what looks to be an average 3 star hotel, plus transportation to / from the airport. The restaurant and bar is on site and reported to serve good food. The overall price comes out to be about $100 - $200 more per day, versus staying at Villa Capri or Garant, scavenging for my own meals and chicas, and handling the airport transportation myself, if I didn't have any problems with restaurants overcharging, chicas taking their own tip while my back was turned, or taxis being unable to find Boca Chica without charging a ridiculous fee. For me the extra money is worth avoiding the hassles.
I spent a few months going over the options when I decided on this trip, checked out websites and forums, took some time to read reviews, reports and horror stories. I've talked with several former and current customers of the place, and have yet to hear anything negative. Worst case, after the free ride to BC, if everything isn't up to my expectations, I walk away, and make my own arrangements, without losing anything. Nothing has been paid for except my airline tickets.
Why choose BC? It worked out to be more convenient for me and the price was right. I realize it's not the jewel of the Caribbean and I don't mind spending a week in a squalid dump, I've probably seen worse. As for being streetwise, I'm not, but I've always been very good at avoiding trouble. One of the reasons I chose this type of trip, instead of the standard mongering vacation is to avoid the street hassles. I don't want to spend 3 or 4 hours a day, finding and choosing a chica and then haggling over price and service. I don't want to wander around looking for the right restaurant and play dysentery roulette at every meal. I just want to relax and have other people deal with any problems. This place tells me they will do that, and the people I've talked to back that up.
Either I did my research correctly and the place is legit, or it's a very elaborate scam involving quite a few people (or just a few, very convincing actors). Since I don't have to pay until I've seen it with my own eyes, I'm betting on legit. I don't want to advertise for them, but I'll gladly share the information via pm, if you want to do a sanity check on me.If you are talking Periastron Vacations and Charles, then I stayed there twice in 2009. The first time we picked up the girl at the Yellow House and her and I spent the week at a small all inclusive in Juan Dolio since he was still working out his hotel deal. The second time stayed at his place in Boca Chica and the girls still came from the Yellow House. I thought it was great for my first couple trips out of the country since everything from the time you arrive until you leave is taken care of. Since then I have made 10 more trips to the DR and basically do Sosua and BB with trips to PC and the east coast. Was a good first introduction to the country. Food was acceptable and the beer and wine were of good quality. No Brahma but Presidente and I believe mixed drinks were available.
You can change girls once a day or keep them the whole time. One guy traded three times in one day and ended up with the one he started with.
The worst part of the the whole arrangement is having to listen to Charles drone on about all the things he has done but unlimited Presidente helped with that.
Hope you have fun I know I sure did.
It's at the same hotel I'm Boca Chica, but a different guy. Peeiastron is still around, but I don't think they are doing much business. The guy running this place seems decent. Rather than getting chicas from yellow house, he seems to have his own, that work exclusively for him. At least in theory.
I'm still 7 weeks away from my arrival, but I'll report back.
It's at the same hotel I'm Boca Chica, but a different guy. Peeiastron is still around, but I don't think they are doing much business. The guy running this place seems decent. Rather than getting chicas from yellow house, he seems to have his own, that work exclusively for him. At least in theory.
I'm still 7 weeks away from my arrival, but I'll report back.If the place you are talking about is "adult tropical vacation" run by Paco and located in the beach sharing the building with the former hotel Cayuco, you will be OK. The girls are brought from the bordello he owns in La Caleta and most are pretty pleasant. The food comes from the Nancy not even 150 meters from the hotel. I am not aware of any other A. I. of this type in Boca Chica.
If the place you are talking about is "adult tropical vacation" run by Paco and located in the beach sharing the building with the former hotel Cayuco, you will be OK. The girls are brought from the bordello he owns in La Caleta and most are pretty pleasant. The food comes from the Nancy not even 150 meters from the hotel. I am not aware of any other A. I. of this type in Bocachica.Nope, it's a different place. Operates under the name Club Fantasy Island. Their restaurant is within the hotel grounds. I'm pretty confident I'll be okay, unless I go crazy waiting for my vacation.
Nope, it's a different place. Operates under the name Club Fantasy Island. Their restaurant is within the hotel grounds. I'm pretty confident I'll be okay, unless I go crazy waiting for my vacation.If it works for you great! Just post after you have been there rather than appearing to subtly and / or indirectly trying to suggest this place to others, or tacitly trying to promote it.
Most here are way more experienced and intelligent than you think. I would not recommend a place like this to anyone. The prices are simply not worth it, no matter what anyone says. And yeah, I have researched this place now, exhaustively on the Internet and other boards, and have my own take on this place (which I will keep to myself), about the guy running it and how it is being subtly promoted on other boards. I think this is most likely being done by 1-2 individuals with several psuedo names posting and replying to themselves under different names, promoting the business by trying to knock down other alternatives, both competitors in the DR and other country locations. Again, I am keeping a watchful eye.
Jackson, forum moderator and board leader should be on the lookout for subtle and indirect promotion of this business on ISG. Worth trying to track down the Internet communications origins of any posters trying to implicitly promote this business on ISG. Most internet savvy hackers will be able to track and expose any such potential tacit or implicit promotions (by tracking all posters' true origins and that of all account names they are using on various boards ) which if true, would make it a potential scam of sorts.
Warning: Ridiculously long post ahead.
If it works for you great! Just post after you have been there rather than appearing to subtly and / or indirectly trying to suggest this place to others, or tacitly trying to promote it.
I haven't tried to promote anything, tacitly or otherwise. If you have read my earlier posts, you will see that. I have only mentioned the name to clear up the misconception that it is another, similar business in BC. And, as I've stated, I fully intend to post a report.
Most here are way more experienced and intelligent than you think. I would not recommend a place like this to anyone. The prices are simply not worth it, no matter what anyone says. And yeah, I have researched this place now, exhaustively on the Internet and other boards, and have my own take on this place (which I will keep to myself), about the guy running it and how it is being subtly promoted on other boards. I think this is most likely being done by 1-2 individuals with several psuedo names posting and replying to themselves under different names, promoting the business by trying to knock down other alternatives, both competitors in the DR and other country locations. Again, I am keeping a watchful eye.I don't believe anything I've written implies anything negative about anyone's intelligence. As for experience, I've read several hundred of the posts, I'm well aware of the experience of the frequent contributors. My initial post even said something to the effect that I knew this was not something appealing to the seasoned monger. I also wouldn't expect you to recommend this place to anyone, just as I haven't recommended it to anyone, because neither of us has been there.
I would be interested in seeing your other sources which cause you to suspect hidden motives. While my search hasn't been exhaustive, I've only found anything about the place on two other sites. One of those had several posts, all about 3 years old, and most trashing the place, without any of the posters having been there. The other board is the one run by the resort. It's an unmoderated board, nothing censored except if people badmouth other businesses and mention the business name. I simply haven't seen anything about trying to knock down other places. I will search harder.
I'm sure you have your opinions about the place the owner and many other things, just as I have opinions about all the people who routinely post here. But, unless I feel that opinion is extremely important to share, I don't even mention it, because it's just an opinion, with nothing to back it up. As for the place in question, both of our opinions are useless, because neither of us has been there. I plan on going, if the place is a ripoff, if the rooms are not up to my standards, if anything sets my bullshit alarm off, I'll walk right out and I'll be spreading the word just as quick as I can.
I find your words a bit passive aggressive. You insinuate bad things about the place, the owner and anyone who says anything positive, without stating the exact problem, relying on ambiguous references instead of facts. If you've done so much investigation, why haven't you taken the logical next step? You've been to BC, it's simple enough to find the place, present yourself as a potential customer, talk to the people involved, tour the place and find out for yourself.
It is expensive, I will be spending at least an extra $100/ day, possibly more than $200. But, assuming I walk away happy, what does it matter? If it works for me, or not, it's all my money.
Jackson, forum moderator and board leader should be on the lookout for subtle and indirect promotion of this business on ISG. Worth trying to track down the Internet communications origins of any posters trying to implicitly promote this business on ISG. Most internet savvy hackers will be able to track and expose any such potential tacit or implicit promotions (by tracking all posters' true origins and that of all account names they are using on various boards ) which if true, would make it a potential scam of sorts.Practically every day there are posts promoting different businesses throughout the DR. There are also posts running down businesses. I would hope that Jackson has better things to do than track every post, search IPs, and verify every thing that is said about every business and every chica. Or are you just insinuating that this one business should be singled out because of your unstated and unsupported opinions? As for promoting the place on ISG, no one has done that. I'll search again, but I don't recall any mention prior to my generic questions, and my replies to the responses that were just a bit insulting. In none of my posts have I promoted the place, in any way.
I would like responses from people who have been to any places of this type, and I've gotten a few that were very helpful. I would also welcome any input on the area. Some hidden gem of a restaurant, or maybe interesting sites to see or tours to take. Maybe you could contribute something useful?
I did find the posts on ISG about the place I've been talking about. Three posts all 2+ years old. The first by someone who claims he went and recommended it. There are dozens of the same types of posts about BBs and FOD.
The other 2, by the same person, say something about giving away free nights. The poster was also on the resorts board at about that time. He went to great lengths to be annoying and was eventually banned. I assume his posts here were some attempt to cause problems for the resort. I just can't find any pattern of subtle promotion.
If it works for you great! Just post after you have been there rather than appearing to subtly and / or indirectly trying to suggest this place to others, or tacitly trying to promote it.
Most here are way more experienced and intelligent than you think. I would not recommend a place like this to anyone. The prices are simply not worth it, no matter what anyone says. And yeah, I have researched this place now, exhaustively on the Internet and other boards, and have my own take on this place (which I will keep to myself), about the guy running it and how it is being subtly promoted on other boards. I think this is most likely being done by 1-2 individuals with several psuedo names posting and replying to themselves under different names, promoting the business by trying to knock down other alternatives, both competitors in the DR and other country locations. Again, I am keeping a watchful eye.
Jackson, forum moderator and board leader should be on the lookout for subtle and indirect promotion of this business on ISG. Worth trying to track down the Internet communications origins of any posters trying to implicitly promote this business on ISG. Most internet savvy hackers will be able to track and expose any such potential tacit or implicit promotions (by tracking all posters' true origins and that of all account names they are using on various boards ) which if true, would make it a potential scam of sorts.I visited their web site yesterday and I am surprised by the large quantity of girls available. The owner claims they don't work in bordellos yet the business would have to be booming to justify so many girls in the premises and given the rates I doubt they would have more than handful of patrons daily. Of course they could be at home waiting to be called but once they get into the P2P business I don't think they would settle for it. I spend most of the year down there and after I return to Bocachica the 18th I will pay a visit to the place. I will post what I found.
I did find the posts on ISG about the place I've been talking about. Three posts all 2+ years old. The first by someone who claims he went and recommended it. There are dozens of the same types of posts about BBs and FOD.
The other 2, by the same person, say something about giving away free nights. The poster was also on the resorts board at about that time. He went to great lengths to be annoying and was eventually banned. I assume his posts here were some attempt to cause problems for the resort. I just can't find any pattern of subtle promotion.Ok and Thanks!
Charles Pooter
03-09-15, 18:04
If it works for you great! Just post after you have been there rather than appearing to subtly and / or indirectly trying to suggest this place to others, or tacitly trying to promote it ... etc.A bit paranoid, Haven?
We rarely get shilling posts here, and Jjbee does not fall into that category. I have every confidence he will give an honest "warts and all" report. I hope for that outlay he won't find many warts and will have a great time. Then, having dipped his toes in the water, he will try out Blackbeards or Sosua for his subsequent trips and find them better value for money as well as linking up with some of us.
From his communications and posts I think that you and he would get on fine.
A bit paranoid, Haven?
We rarely get shilling posts here, and Jjbee does not fall into that category. I have every confidence he will give an honest "warts and all" report. I hope for that outlay he won't find many warts and will have a great time. Then, having dipped his toes in the water, he will try out Blackbeards or Sosua for his subsequent trips and find them better value for money as well as linking up with some of us.
From his communications and posts I think that you and he would get on fine.Perhaps, Charles, can't be ruled out! But I am a very data driven guy. And that is extremely hard to explain. (the data as it appears and data within the data. Stitching together statistically. And when I see the odds statistically rise within the data I perk up. But that is one of my key fortes: quantitative science of both visible and hidden data and inherent data). It does come in useful with the chicas I meet on Cupid and when I branch out on to their facebook pages and wealth and trove of data in it. Including visual data). I am definitely in left field with some of this stuff. So, my apologies to you and all here.
I'm sorry Charles, you are an outstanding person and you and many people here have helped me mucho!
So, thanks. I sometimes pick up things very few folks will. But I am not even close to being 100 percent right! Better than 50 PC though.
I generally get along with everyone and Haven seems like a decent sort, as do most of the people here. My report will be as objective as possible, I just hate that my travel is still over 6 weeks away.
My methods differ slightly from yours, Haven, but I also go heavy for the data. For me, the key element is semantics. Everything I read, especially online, I look at with a healthy dose of skepticism. After 25 years online, I started on Gemie, Compuserve and local BBS's, my BS detector is finely tuned. All it took was meeting up with a girl from chat who described herself as an 8 or 9. This was years before digital photos, so you had to take it on faith. To her credit, her number was only off by 1. Decimal place.
When I looked at all the websites I looked for deal breakers. One place offers BBFS for a price. For me that killed any interest. Another place was raving about the addition of a swimming pool. The pool turned out to be an inflatable you can buy at Wal-Mart for $250. Some places used fake pictures of the chicas, and another had mostly spread crotch shots. Yet another had lots of pictures of the chicas, but not one of them looked happy.
Every place promises perfection, except the one I picked. That one just promised to do whatever it takes to fix any problem. That's the proper attitude, I will let you know if they live up to it. If they meet or exceed my expectations, then I consider the money well spent.
When I first started my research, I just had a vague idea of what I wanted. So I started learning. I quickly learned to expect everyone to try and take advantage. Figure in several taxis, a hotel, lots of restaurants and lots of chicas, and you might have 60 people try to cheat you in a week. That's like spending 3 hours in Congress. While I'm fairly confident in my abilities, I just don't want to go through the process of haggling over everything, not for my first trip. Hence, my choice.
I'm confident I'll repeat as often as possible, and I look forward to branching out and exploring all the options. Now if anyone has a time machine I can borrow, I am ready to get started.
What can I expect to pay for a taxi from Santo Domingo Airport to Boca Chica?
Also does anyone know where the nearest Metro bus station is in case I wish to go to Santiago for a day or two.
Thanks
What can I expect to pay for a taxi from Santo Domingo Airport to Boca Chica?
Also does anyone know where the nearest Metro bus station is in case I wish to go to Santiago for a day or two.
ThanksDon't pay more than $25 US or 1112 pesos at yesterday's exchange rate.
What can I expect to pay for a taxi from Santo Domingo Airport to Boca Chica?
Also does anyone know where the nearest Metro bus station is in case I wish to go to Santiago for a day or two.
ThanksYou shouldn't pay no more than 300 to 700 pesos to go from the airport to Boca Chica DEPENDING on you skills. If you want to go to the bus station. Tell the cab driver to drop you off at the ole in Andres. It's about 2 to 3 minutes from the airport. Catch the bus from there to the main bus station and buy your ticket to Santiago.
You shouldn't pay no more than 300 to 700 pesos to go from the airport to Boca Chica DEPENDING on you skills. If you want to go to the bus station. Tell the cab driver to drop you off at the ole in Andres. It's about 2 to 3 minutes from the airport. Catch the bus from there to the main bus station and buy your ticket to Santiago.The Ole is not in Andres but in the Caleta. Regarding 300 pesos for the ride to Bocachica I assume you are talking about a motoconcho, Even for 700 it would have to be a wreck driven by some desperado and parked far away from the terminal. You also can get pussy for 500 pesos at the park. Would you?
I went to Boca Chica for the first time because my return flight was from SDQ. So I decided to spend the afternoon and the night there as my flight did not leave until the following day at 1:15 PM. I did not have high expectation as I read the BC thread every so often. However, I did not expect this place to be this bad on a Saturday night. I admit I am a Sosua lover through and through but I wasn't prepared for what I witnessed. First of all, the Chica selections was absolutely horrible. The Haitians girls looked very hard and unattractive. I'm mostly a body man and don't care much about facial features. The few I met with nice bodies looked very hard in the face. So much so I just could not pulled the trigger. One of them I could tell had scars from being cut in the face and the other had a very nice body but looked about 46 in the face and said she was 26. However, later I finally found one with a nice body and decent facial features but did not have an I'd. After going in and out bars and walking the strip a few hours I finally found a decent looking Haitian girl with a decent body and called it a night. As I said before, I wasn't expecting much but for a Saturday to look worse then a Sosua Monday is just difficult for me to understand. Also let me throw in that one Haitian girl broke a bottle and tried cut another Haitian girl in the middle of strip and causing a big scene. There were no police around at all. It took some Euro guy to sacrifice his body by blocking the girl in a corner with his hands stretched out basically letting her know if she is going to cut someone it has to start with him she finally calmed down and walked to another part of the strip. I'm not sure if he knew the girl or not. I've never seen Haitians behave this way in Sosua. They usually try to stay quiet. Also, I was in this Biker Bar getting a presidente trying to play billiards and this Haitian bartender (maybe the manager) was very rude to me. She was very inpatient and yelled at me to give her money quickly. Let me be clear, I do not have a problem with Haitian women most of my regulars in Sosua are Haitian and always had good experiences with them until I came BC. BTW I ran across a few Dominicanas they did not have good bodies. In conclusion, I do not know what BC used to be or what it can be but what I do know is what I witnessed this past Saturday Night. Unfortunately it is my first last time visiting! BTW Santo Domingo is a beautiful City.
The Ole is not in Andres but in the Caleta. Regarding 300 pesos for the ride to Bocachica I assume you are talking about a motoconcho, Even for 700 it would have to be a wreck driven by some desperado and parked far away from the terminal. You also can get pussy for 500 pesos at the park. Would you?No the Ole is in Andre / Boca Chica. I never heard of Caleta being 2 or 3 minutes from the airport. And your assumption is wrong I am talking about a taxi. I've never had 500 peso pussy. Not saying it can't be had but I've never experienced it.
Every since the closing of the Club Batey BC has been hurting. The Batey bought out chicas from local cities SD San Predro LR who were down with pay for play but refused to walk up and down the strip like an average street hooker. If BC is not your normal hood. You can quickly get into an argument or a fight with girls from that area. Street Chica can be very territorial. Going to in club is not the same. Batey is the only socially respected Club on the strip. Imagine if all the clubs were close in Sosua and the only thing the Chica can do is walk up and down the strip. A lot of Chica will refuse to do so. What you will have left are the hardcore freelancers and hardcore locals. Since the closing of the Batey on the weekend all you have is the Haitian that were not cute enough or resourceful enough to go to Sosua. Its not a good site if you are Fresh from Sosua.
The Ole is not in Andres but in the Caleta. Regarding 300 pesos for the ride to Bocachica I assume you are talking about a motoconcho, Even for 700 it would have to be a wreck driven by some desperado and parked far away from the terminal. You also can get pussy for 500 pesos at the park. Would you?I stand corrected the Ole is not considered in Andres / BC area but La Caleta. In my two and a half years of going to Boca Chica I've never heard the area being called Caleta. Ty Yonkers44 and BQribs for the correction.
I stand corrected the Ole is not considered in Andres / BC area but La Caleta. In my two and a half years of going to Boca Chica I've never heard the area being called Caleta. Ty Yonkers44 and BQribs for the correction.Caleta in Spanish means small inlet and is the area were the airport is located. Most of the people live in the North side of the road behind the Ole. Paco's bordello is there, very nice, worth a visit. He also runs Tropical Adult Vacations in Bocachica. Many people from the area will tell you they are from Andres because they figure you don't know the place. If you need to re-program your car computer or get paint that matches your vehicle, you will directed to business there. By the way, The Batey re-opened the 24th, so things are back to normal.
whoops! question was just answered about reopening.
Every since the closing of the Club Batey BC has been hurting. The Batey bought out chicas from local cities SD San Predro LR who were down with pay for play but refused to walk up and down the strip like an average street hooker. If BC is not your normal hood. You can quickly get into an argument or a fight with girls from that area. Street Chica can be very territorial. Going to in club is not the same. Batey is the only socially respected Club on the strip. Imagine if all the clubs were close in Sosua and the only thing the Chica can do is walk up and down the strip. A lot of Chica will refuse to do so. What you will have left are the hardcore freelancers and hardcore locals. Since the closing of the Batey on the weekend all you have is the Haitian that were not cute enough or resourceful enough to go to Sosua. Its not a good site if you are Fresh from Sosua.Thanks GM! This explains why I had such a bad experience in BC. However, the SDQ airport being so close is a big plus for them.
So me and my brother are walking in Boca Chica and along comes these two Chicas and one of them puts her arms around the both of us saying Hello, my friend. I quickly and aggressively removed it from around my shoulder telling her you don't know me don't touch me. My brother on the other hand immediately enjoy the attention. He thought it was comical the way to Chica just aggressively came at him. Her other friend came over to me and said she remembered me from Sosua. She tried to make a deal for 1500 pesos. As we were talking she noticed her friend rubbing her butt on my friend. She stopped all conversation and join her friend grinding on my brother. My brother said to me with a smile dude you going to help me. I told him no and continue drinking my water you handle it. Both Chica begin aggressively grinding and grabbing on him in the middle of the strip. After about 3 minutes of playing my brother reached in his pocket and found out his money was gone. Dude they stole my money. I went to the females and they begin to pull lint from their pockets saying they didn't have any
Cash. 1 Chica lift up her shirt and the money came falling out. My brother picked up the money and begin to count it. I told the girls we were taking them to the police but I made sure not to put my hands on any of them. They agreed to go to Police however once we got to the end of the street
the Chica who had the money did a Wilma Rudolf toward the beach. My brother looked at me as if I was going to chase behind the chica. I told him he must be out of his f* mind. He is 280 and I am still sick from my liver. Dude she still has some of my money. I asked him how much and he said about 200 pesos. I told him to charge it to the game. He tried to say man you seen me trying to get the chica off me. I told him you can't get a puta off with a smile on your face you a grown ass man you don't need me to help you get a Chica off you. Next time you'll know not to let these random hoes come up on you are feeding your ego rookie.
So me and my brother are walking in Boca Chica and along comes these two Chicas and one of them puts her arms around the both of us saying Hello, my friend. I quickly and aggressively removed it from around my shoulder telling her you don't know me don't touch me. My brother on the other hand immediately enjoy the attention. He thought it was comical the way to Chica just aggressively came at him. Her other friend came over to me and said she remembered me from Sosua. She tried to make a deal for 1500 pesos. As we were talking she noticed her friend rubbing her butt on my friend. She stopped all conversation and join her friend grinding on my brother. My brother said to me with a smile dude you going to help me. I told him no and continue drinking my water you handle it. Both Chica begin aggressively grinding and grabbing on him in the middle of the strip. After about 3 minutes of playing my brother reached in his pocket and found out his money was gone. Dude they stole my money. I went to the females and they begin to pull lint from their pockets saying they didn't have anyCash. 1 Chica lift up her shirt and the money came falling out. My brother picked up the money and begin to count it. I told the girls we were taking them to the police but I made sure not to put my hands on any of them. They agreed to go to Police however once we got to the end of the street the Chica who had the money did a Wilma Rudolf toward the beach. My brother looked at me as if I was going to chase behind the chica. I told him he must be out of his f* mind. He is 280 and I am still sick from my liver. Dude she still has some of my money. I asked him how much and he said about 200 pesos. I told him to charge it to the game. He tried to say man you seen me trying to get the chica off me. I told him you can't get a puta off with a smile on your face you a grown ass man you don't need me to help you get a Chica off you. Next time you'll know not to let these random hoes come up on you are feeding your ego rookie.I am surprised than a veteran like you would have been involved in an incident like that. The scam is pretty common in BC and I have witnessed it in two occasions. Usually the victims are wandering about, staring at girls, not walking with a purpose, but rather acting like marks. Many flash large amounts of hard currency when paying the bill and then walk away without realizing that they may be followed by thieves looking for an opportunity. Recently a guy was attacked by two girls near the Bank of Reserves and lost thousands of euros. Also two Canadians were followed to the Villa Mariana and at gunpoint stripped of their belongings. I realize that your friend was nave and this is why I rather be by myself not having to suffer the consequences of idiotic actions by fellow mongers.
So me and my brother are walking in Boca Chica and along comes these two Chicas and one of them puts her arms around the both of us saying Hello, my friend. I quickly and aggressively removed it from around my shoulder telling her you don't know me don't touch me. My brother on the other hand immediately enjoy the attention. He thought it was comical the way to Chica just aggressively came at him. Her other friend came over to me and said she remembered me from Sosua. She tried to make a deal for 1500 pesos. As we were talking she noticed her friend rubbing her butt on my friend. She stopped all conversation and join her friend grinding on my brother. My brother said to me with a smile dude you going to help me. I told him no and continue drinking my water you handle it. Both Chica begin aggressively grinding and grabbing on him in the middle of the strip. After about 3 minutes of playing my brother reached in his pocket and found out his money was gone. Dude they stole my money. I went to the females and they begin to pull lint from their pockets saying they didn't have any Cash. 1 Chica lift up her shirt and the money came falling out. My brother picked up the money and begin to count it. I told the girls we were taking them to the police but I made sure not to put my hands on any of them. They agreed to go to Police however once we got to the end of the street the Chica who had the money did a Wilma Rudolf toward the beach. My brother looked at me as if I was going to chase behind the chica. I told him he must be out of his f* mind. He is 280 and I am still sick from my liver. Dude she still has some of my money. I asked him how much and he said about 200 pesos. I told him to charge it to the game. He tried to say man you seen me trying to get the chica off me. I told him you can't get a puta off with a smile on your face you a grown ass man you don't need me to help you get a Chica off you. Next time you'll know not to let these random hoes come up on you are feeding your ego rookie.I don't understand why you continue to go to BC. The reality is that it has turned into a Haitian and Italian ghetto more or less. Filthy and full of hard core beggars, thieves, touts, and putas.
Mr Enternational
04-03-15, 16:04
GrownMan didn't fall for it. From what I read he was trying to tell his boy not to fall for it. But his boy was so taken by the girls that he would not listen. So GM just sat back and let him learn a hard lesson.
GrownMan didn't fall for it. From what I read he was trying to tell his boy not to fall for it. But his boy was so taken by the girls that he would not listen. So GM just sat back and let him learn a hard lesson.Sounds like. Once you've been burned, you learn not to play with fire.
GrownMan didn't fall for it. From what I read he was trying to tell his boy not to fall for it. But his boy was so taken by the girls that he would not listen. So GM just sat back and let him learn a hard lesson.You correct GhostFace Killer aka Mr E. My brother now has his BC stripes. I don't know why Yonker thought I fell for it. You lost me on that Yonker.
You correct GhostFace Killer aka Mr E. My brother now has his BC stripes. I don't know why Yonker thought I fell for it. You lost me on that Yonker.Sorry GM but I did not use the words "fell for it " but "involved in". You chose to walk around with, in your words, a rookie not in his best shape, did not help him to shake off the working girls but then you assisted in the searching and suggested going to the police which, having recovered the money, it was not the best idea since it could bring undesirable consequences in a place as DR. My point, again, is that one is better off going solo that in the company of unproven people. Have a pleasant vacation.
Independent15
04-04-15, 05:52
I have recently taken the plunge and have decided to hit the DR for some excitement. I have heard a bunch of mixed accounts. Wondering if anyone has any newbie advice such as negotiation techniques, places to go, quality of women, et cetera. I am planning a 2 week stint and am trying to pack in as much of a good time as possible and looking to make this my regular go to spot. In particular I am wondering what the frequency of condom use is and if that is able to be negotiated. I hate stuff in the way if you know what I mean. However, saying that, I want to know if these women are safe and clean. Has anyone on this forum foregone condom use and how has that experience been, all still checking out OK? I have also gotten some tips as to bringing gifts versus tipping as this is a clever money saving technique. Can't wait for this experience and looking forward to gaining as much insight as possible so I can arrive like a seasoned pro.
Thanks all.
Charles Pooter
04-04-15, 18:53
I have recently taken the plunge and have decided to hit the DR for some excitement. I have heard a bunch of mixed accounts. Wondering if anyone has any newbie advice such as negotiation techniques, places to go, quality of women, et cetera. I am planning a 2 week stint and am trying to pack in as much of a good time as possible and looking to make this my regular go to spot.Here are my comments to start the ball rolling. No doubt others more knowledgeable than me will then agree, expand, or contradict.
1) Read all the DR posts over the past year. If nothing else, this will show you that there is no one best way to monger here. We all have our different strategies and preferences. Older posts may be entertaining, but could be misleading. Prices, chicas, ownership of businesses, etc, change rapidly here.
2) You have posted in the Boca Chica section. I hope this does not mean you are planning to stay or spend your time there. This is a bad idea for a newbie. For further info about this read JjBee's post #2801 here and all the posts about it which followed.
In particular I am wondering what the frequency of condom use is and if that is able to be negotiated. I hate stuff in the way if you know what I mean. However, saying that, I want to know if these women are safe and clean.If you do not want to use condoms, you will find plenty of chicas who will agree. The more professional ones may use it as a reason to charge more. Local girls rarely use condoms with their boyfriends and I have fucked plenty of semi-pros and non-pros without condoms.
There is no way whatever you can guarantee that any woman willing to have sex with a stranger is "clean". Even those who work in brothels and are tested every month are only clean until the next time they fuck their local boyfriend (invariably bareback), which could be only a hour or two after passing their test. And even this assumes the test is honestly and competently done. Honesty and competence are rare commodities on this island.
So if you fuck bareback it will be very much at your own risk, and it is a sizeable risk. This is a third-world country where most people cannot afford proper medical services or condoms and indulge in sex as one of the few cheap and available sources of recreation. HIV rates are relatively high, but it is fairly hard to catch HIV from normal vaginal sex. There are a lot of other diseases which are more common and easier to catch, and will fuck up you life and maybe those of your loved ones, or your career or bank balance.
To paraphrase Groucho Marx, you may not want to have unprotected sex with any woman who is willing to have unprotected sex with you.
You have asked for others' experiences. This is silly. I have been living here for nearly six years and had long trips here for three years before that. I have fucked a hundred or so chicas bareback. I am old and have health problems but none of them sex-related. But no way would I recommend anyone else to do it, especially a younger guy or someone with responsibilities.
The reason I said it is silly, is that anyone who has caught something serious is unlikely to admit it here. Indeed they will probably no longer be members here.
If you do use condoms, bring your own. Condoms here are either expensive (if imported) or uncomfortable or unreliable.
I have also gotten some tips as to bringing gifts versus tipping as this is a clever money saving technique.That is rubbish. Chicas want money, either to support their families or a drug habit. If you give gifts as well they will of course eagerly accept them, but they will still expect the same payment. If you have an ongoing "relationship" it can sweeten things to give little gifts like cheap underwear or costume jewellery, but not save money. If a one-time trick they will just think you are a sucker. And any worthwhile presents will be sold at the first opportunity for a fraction of their market value.
And tipping is not expected. Just 50 to 100 pesos to cover their moto fares home or back to wherever they were working.
If the chica gives service over and above the norm, by all means pay her extra. That is only fair. But she will appreciate 500 pesos cash more than a 1500 peso dress. And if you do give the dress, she will likely sell it for 200 pesos next day or give it to a sister who has even less than her.
I can arrive like a seasoned pro.This ain't going to happen. As a newbie you will have the mark of Cain on your forehead. You will be relentlessly targeted. You will make mistakes. You will get conned. Just try to restrict the damage and learn by experience.
Very important: how much Spanish do you have? If none, or minimal, I would strongly recommend you spend your first trip at Blackbeards. You can use it as a base to visit Sosua, Puerto Plata, etc, with a view to subsequent trips. I recently "entertained" an acquaintance from England who spoke no Spanish. He has made many trips to Thailand so I thought he could cope. Boy, was I wrong! With no Spanish he was a fish out of water. He made me miserable and my friends soon tired of trying to help him. Finally I persuaded him to stay at Blackbeards for his final five days of the fourteen. He was happy as a sandboy there and starting blaming me because he hadn't spent the whole trip there. Granted, he was a bit weird and with no street-smarts, but he wasted a hell of a lot of money trying to do the wrong sort of holiday for the first nine days.
Your second and subsequent trips will be better organized and more cost-effective, but nothing beats the magic of the first, fuck-ups notwithstanding.
Good luck!
Final advice: start thinking in pesos NOW. Apart from your airfare and maybe hotel room, pay and calculate prices in your head in pesos. Get familiar with conversion rates NOW. If someone quotes you in dollars, ask them the price in pesos. Paying dollars will cost you a lot extra over two weeks. The locals are bad at math and cannot be expected to keep up with shifting exchange rates, so they will round up dollar prices to be on the safe side. A chica might be more than happy to go wiith you for 1500 pesos (about US $33.70), but if you want to pay in dollars she will demand UDS $40 or US $50. Same for taxis and restaurants.
2) You have posted in the Boca Chica section. I hope this does not mean you are planning to stay or spend your time there. This is a bad idea for a newbie. For further info about this read JjBee's post #2801 here and all the posts about it which followed.After much thought, and a great deal of advice, BC is no longer on my itinerary. At the moment it's SD, Santiago and Sosua, with a possible stop at Blackbeard's, if I can squeeze in the time.
Sorry GM but I did not use the words "fell for it " but "involved in". You chose to walk around with, in your words, a rookie not in his best shape, did not help him to shake off the working girls but then you assisted in the searching and suggested going to the police which, having recovered the money, it was not the best idea since it could bring undesirable consequences in a place as DR. My point, again, is that one is better off going solo that in the company of unproven people. Have a pleasant vacation.Yes I chose to let him learn the hard way. But not too hard. If solo is your thing Kool I do it sometimes. But now I have another comical moment to share with and reminiscent with my brother for a lifetime. A trip to the DR $312. A good price for a chica p4 p 1500 pesos. Recalling the look on my brother's face when he was green in BC and a chica picked pocket him for not following my lead. Priceless!
Independent15
04-05-15, 05:12
Thanks so much. Would you recommend making the rounds like and checking out various spots or focusing on one area in particular for my first venture. I do have about 2 weeks and would like to experience the flavor but also don't want to appear to be so out of place. I do have a pretty decent grasp of Spanish, nearly fluent, so I am hoping that will account for something. Man, I did invest quite some time reading up and that is what was steering me towards bringing gifts versus tips. I believe it was GrownMan1 that had a substantial amount of information on that with money saving techniques. Maybe I was wrong. A few more questions that I am hoping I could trouble you with. As far as areas are concerned, which ones have the highest caliber women and what areas tend to be the bottom of the barrel. Certainly some areas must be relegated to those one would consider trashy, low class, or not even worth the time. You also mentioned something about the chicas wanting money to support their drug habit, how prevalent is that in the scene? Lastly, would a person such as myself be a target for police harassment or do they usually leave tourists alone and instead focus on the women? Thanks again and any additional information would be greatly appreciated. I will say you did burst my bubble by being blatantly honest and saying that in no means will I appear to be a seasoned pro. So much for that idea.
Here are my comments to start the ball rolling. No doubt others more knowledgeable than me will then agree, expand, or contradict.
1) Read all the DR posts over the past year. If nothing else, this will show you that there is no one best way to monger here. We all have our different strategies and preferences. Older posts may be entertaining, but could be misleading. Prices, chicas, ownership of businesses, etc, change rapidly here.
2) You have posted in the Boca Chica section. I hope this does not mean you are planning to stay or spend your time there. This is a bad idea for a newbie. For further info about this read JjBee's post #2801 here and all the posts about it which followed.
If you do not want to use condoms, you will find plenty of chicas who will agree. The more professional ones may use it as a reason to charge more. Local girls rarely use condoms with their boyfriends and I have fucked plenty of semi-pros and non-pros without condoms.
There is no way whatever you can guarantee that any woman willing to have sex with a stranger is "clean". Even those who work in brothels and are tested every month are only clean until the next time they fuck their local boyfriend (invariably bareback), which could be only a hour or two after passing their test. And even this assumes the test is honestly and competently done. Honesty and competence are rare commodities on this island...
Charles Pooter
04-05-15, 21:36
I do have a pretty decent grasp of Spanish, nearly fluentWow, that's a whole different ball game! If "nearly fluent" then you have the advantage of 90% of us here. By the time you come to report on your trip you will be able to give us advice!
In that case I certainly would not recommend spending much of your time at Blackbeards. You can enjoy a more varied and cost-effective holiday elsewhere. However, you might like to spend two or three nights there, just for a change of pace. Or maybe the first two or three nights just to "play yourself in" (to use a cricketing expression. I'm English).
I will say you did burst my bubble by being blatantly honest and saying that in no means will I appear to be a seasoned pro. So much for that idea.Speaking good Spanish will also make you less of a target and make it easier to wriggle out of embarrassing situations. Still keep your guard up at all times, though.
I believe it was GrownMan1 that had a substantial amount of information on that with money saving techniques. Maybe I was wrong. Like I said there is no "right" or "wrong" in such matters. Just different strategies. I have every respect for GrownMan1's opinions. If you have read the board as you state you will know that we all differ about things.
As far as areas are concerned, which ones have the highest caliber women and what areas tend to be the bottom of the barrel. Certainly some areas must be relegated to those one would consider trashy, low class, or not even worth the time. This all depends on what sort of women you are looking for. I break them down into three types:
Full-time pros: they rely on prostitution to support themselves and their families and / or boyfriends. Upside is it is point-and-click for guys with limited time. Downside is it is all business and they soon get hardened. Some of them will have unpleasant and potentially dangerous associates.
Part-time pros: they don't get up each morning expecting to sell their bodies. They have other ways of supporting themselves. But if some gringo offers them money for sex they may well accept. This is the category I soon concentrated on after my first two trips.
Non-pros: Unless you are young, or good-looking, or an excellent dancer, you will be unlikely to hook one of these first trip, though possible to build up trust with successive trips. Good Spanish is a must. Don't be misled by guys posting about the non-pros they have banged. Most of these will be semi-pros and either the guys are bullshitting us or they have bullshitted themselves. Hell, it may even be the women have bullshitted themselves. My present girlfriend I picked up in a bar. She would go with anyone who paid her (and Dominicans don't pay much). But she is genuinely indignant whenever I say she was a prostitute. She honestly does not think of it like that.
Any area will have a range from the snooty princesses to the crack-head working girl trash. (I am not sure if any snooty princesses are to be found in Boca Chica though).
You also mentioned something about the chicas wanting money to support their drug habit, how prevalent is that in the scene?I have had hundreds of chicas here and I can only remember two or three whose behaviour seemed to be drug affected. But then I avoid full-time pros and never hunted late at night. Also I might have been naive and missed the clues.
Lastly, would a person such as myself be a target for police harassment or do they usually leave tourists alone and instead focus on the women? Prostitution is legal here, but there has been much talk recently, and some ambiguous evidence, that police may now target the customers. I would say if you do not hang with low-life and don't get drunk you have nothing to fear. If you get into a confrontational situation with a Dominican, swallow your pride and slink off. But I have never needed to use my cowardice skills here in eight years. I can usually sense when trouble is brewing and make my excuses to leave.
I would now recommend your staying in Sosua, with the first two / three days at Blackbeards as an option. There is plenty in Sosua to keep you occupied for two weeks, especially if you hook up with other mongers, which is easy enough. And from Sosua you can do day-trips to other locations on the North Coast incredibly cheaply by public transport. Everything in Sosua is walkable, unless you are badly over-weight or disabled.
Of course, if you have to fly into Santo Domingo rather than Santiago or Puerto Plata, it might be better to spend all or some of your time in the capital. It is a whole day trip across the island. Even with two weeks at your disposal, you don't want to waste two days sitting in a bus.
I have recently taken the plunge and have decided to hit the DR for some excitement. I have heard a bunch of mixed accounts. Wondering if anyone has any newbie advice such as negotiation techniques, places to go, quality of women, et cetera. I am planning a 2 week stint and am trying to pack in as much of a good time as possible and looking to make this my regular go to spot. In particular I am wondering what the frequency of condom use is and if that is able to be negotiated. I hate stuff in the way if you know what I mean. However, saying that, I want to know if these women are safe and clean. Has anyone on this forum foregone condom use and how has that experience been, all still checking out OK? I have also gotten some tips as to bringing gifts versus tipping as this is a clever money saving technique. Can't wait for this experience and looking forward to gaining as much insight as possible so I can arrive like a seasoned pro.
Thanks all.You will know when you are a Zen master of mongering, because sex will no longer seem more important than any other bodily pleasure
Yes condoms may be used on occasion, but a true pro will know when to hold 'em and when to unfold 'em.
Wow, that's a whole different ball game! If "nearly fluent" then you have the advantage of 90% of us here. By the time you come to report on your trip you will be able to give us advice!
In that case I certainly would not recommend spending much of your time at Blackbeards. You can enjoy a more varied and cost-effective holiday elsewhere. However, you might like to spend two or three nights there, just for a change of pace. Or maybe the first two or three nights just to "play yourself in" (to use a cricketing expression. I'm English).
Speaking good Spanish will also make you less of a target and make it easier to wriggle out of embarrassing situations. Still keep your guard up at all times, though.
Like I said there is no "right" or "wrong" in such matters. Just different strategies. I have every respect for GrownMan1's opinions. If you have read the board as you state you will know that we all differ about things.
This all depends on what sort of women you are looking for. I break them down into three types:
Full-time pros: they rely on prostitution to support themselves and their families and / or boyfriends. Upside is it is point-and-click for guys with limited time. Downside is it is all business and they soon get hardened. Some of them will have unpleasant and potentially dangerous associates.
Part-time pros: they don't get up each morning expecting to sell their bodies. They have other ways of supporting themselves. But if some gringo offers them money for sex they may well accept. This is the category I soon concentrated on after my first two trips.
Non-pros: Unless you are young, or good-looking, or an excellent dancer, you will be unlikely to hook one of these first trip, though possible to build up trust with successive trips. Good Spanish is a must. Don't be misled by guys posting about the non-pros they have banged. Most of these will be semi-pros and either the guys are bullshitting us or they have bullshitted themselves. Hell, it may even be the women have bullshitted themselves. My present girlfriend I picked up in a bar. She would go with anyone who paid her (and Dominicans don't pay much). But she is genuinely indignant whenever I say she was a prostitute. She honestly does not think of it like that.
Any area will have a range from the snooty princesses to the crack-head working girl trash. (I am not sure if any snooty princesses are to be found in Boca Chica though).
I have had hundreds of chicas here and I can only remember two or three whose behaviour seemed to be drug affected. But then I avoid full-time pros and never hunted late at night. Also I might have been naive and missed the clues.
Prostitution is legal here, but there has been much talk recently, and some ambiguous evidence, that police may now target the customers. I would say if you do not hang with low-life and don't get drunk you have nothing to fear. If you get into a confrontational situation with a Dominican, swallow your pride and slink off. But I have never needed to use my cowardice skills here in eight years. I can usually sense when trouble is brewing and make my excuses to leave.
I would now recommend your staying in Sosua, with the first two / three days at Blackbeards as an option. There is plenty in Sosua to keep you occupied for two weeks, especially if you hook up with other mongers, which is easy enough. And from Sosua you can do day-trips to other locations on the North Coast incredibly cheaply by public transport. Everything in Sosua is walkable, unless you are badly over-weight or disabled.
Of course, if you have to fly into Santo Domingo rather than Santiago or Puerto Plata, it might be better to spend all or some of your time in the capital. It is a whole day trip across the island. Even with two weeks at your disposal, you don't want to waste two days sitting in a bus.The first step to fluency in Spanish is fluency in English. If you forget which language you are speaking, you have arrived. My Spanish will never be perfect, but I can say anything I want to say, so that is enough. The only problem is that sometimes Spanish speakers forget that I am not a native speaker and speak slang too fast for me.
There really isn't a good thread to put this in, but the Boca Chica thread has been rather underused lately, so this is as good a place as any. It's also where I first posted, so maybe it's appropriate to stick it here.
I want to begin by giving my thanks to everyone who has offered me advice, or told me I'm a damned fool, and also to everyone who has shared their knowledge throughout the site. I'm certain that you have saved many people from everything from minor inconveniences to potentially life threatening situations. You've also put literally hundreds of years of hard won knowledge at the fingertips of anyone who knows how to use a search engine.
Several people here have offered advice and have not been afraid to criticize, some have been more diplomatic than others, and that advice has helped me to, if not make better decisions, to at least see the alternatives. My first choice was the DR version of the all you can eat sex buffet. An all-inclusive resort that also includes plenty of chicas to choose from all for one price. There are 2 such places in Boca Chica, serviced through about 5 different companies, and 5 or 6 others around the country. Of these, I still feel I picked the best value and best service option of all of them. For a certain portion of the people coming to the DR, this is a very good option. But, I have decided to be a little more adventurous (or a damned fool), and I am charting my own course.
There is a possibility of me spending one night in BC, but thanks to the advice of many, I am sure there are better places for me to stay, including Sosua. Unlike many of you, sport fucking, or P4P, or GFE is only part of my ever-changing goals for this trip. I want to see some of the other things the country has to offer. While this does expose me to many potential risks, it also offers its own rewards. In order to maximize my ability to see the country, I've chosen to rent a car, something Mr. Gogo, whose opinion I have a great deal of respect for, claims is a big mistake.
There are many here, who, even though they are very experienced in the DR, never rent a car. They travel by bus, gua gua or taxi, when walking is not an option. Others always rent a car. It all depends on comfort level. Personally, I am more comfortable driving than doing just about anything else. I've driven well over 2 million miles, everywhere in the US (except Alaska), and in Canada and Mexico. I've driven everything from motorcycles to 18 wheelers on every type of road and in every type of weather. I learned a long time ago, that most people are very poor drivers. I make allowances, always know what is around me, what my options are and where my emergency exit is (driving tip: you should always have a default move, in case of emergency. First choice is to stop, but if that doesn't work, then usually going to the right, especially if there is a shoulder, is your next choice).
I realize that driving in the DR presents challenges, bad roads, bad drivers, lack of any consistent safety standards, are just a few. To reduce my risks, I plan to finish my driving before dark, never drive after drinking (2 years scraping dead drunks off the freeways in SoCal, cured me of that urge), and to not drive in Santo Domingo. I might even bypass Santiago, if I feel the traffic makes it too risky. I also plan on making my hotel choices based upon the parking situation. Overall I feel my chances to survive are good. If you feel differntly, I'd like to hear your perspective.
Where all I will go is undecided, it's an adventure. The adventure starts in two weeks, WiFi willing, I'll try to post updates.
Thanks again.
JB62,
Good post. You remind me of my first trip to the DR in 2006. My advice pre-trip was coming from my dad who had been hunting in the DR for 20 years but I didn't want to hear it so I did it my way and it was a major clusterfuck and everything went back to what he was trying to tell me. He told me he had everything set up but I didn't listen. I went to the internet and booked an all inclusive to do it my way not knowing he had booked me at Black beards. When I arrived I rented a car which pissed my dad off so he let me learn the hard way. First, they locked my credit card down at the car rental agency at POP airport which hurt me financially. Then my dad said since I have a rental car he would meet me in Puerto plata. Here I am speaking no spanish in a rental looking for a shell gas station in Puerto plata. I got lost as I went to the wrong shell gas station. My dad said wait there as I'm this crazy looking gringo in a foreign country lost. He arrives with a chica sitting shotgun and we go to Black beards.
At Black Beards I walk in and they ring a bell and all these fine women are hanging out. I broke my cherry in the DR at BB that night forgetting that I had booked at the all inclusive that I would never visit. I just couldn't let my dad take the lead, I wanted to control my destiny. My money was running low and me and my dad had one of those father and son disputes. He knew I was broke in the DR and said if I needed money to just ask, I felt if he knew I was broke I should have to ask. My stubbornness wouldn't let me ask so I did without. The good thing was that I had a car and a tank of gas, the bad was that I didn't have cash. I discovered Sosua this way on a broke tip. I was just hanging out driving around. I finished that trip as a broke guy in the DR but over the next year I would visit Sosua 3 times and I found my paradise.
The lesson here is sometimes we have to swallow our pride and go with the flow and be lead.
Mr. G, that post belongs in the RoD. Truly an excellent report.
You touched on one of my worries about renting a car, having the funds tied up by the rental car company. Although I don't plan on using my card for anything, there's always the risk of a serious situation where mucho dinero is needed. The other concern is in case of an accident. No matter what my skills, it's always a possibility. I learned that when, on an almost deserted stretch of I-40, in New Mexico, I had to choose between a fatal accident and driving my semi into the median. Granted, if I hadn't been driving 100 mph, I would have had other options. I've learned to slow down since then.
Sometimes, between my pride and my stubbornness, I get into trouble. I will take a wrong turn and find myself in the South Bronx, or at the gate of a major Mexican drug operation, or drunk, at 2 am, in the wrong neighborhood for a young, white farm boy who has never been alone in a city before. I've always come out clean, but the first time I fall is probably going to hurt like hell.
I'm considering dropping the rental plan and just grabbing a taxi to the Metro station and riding into the safety and security of Sosua. The only thing holding me back is the urge, I have always had, to wander off into the unknown. I've made some great discoveries doing that, an abandoned mine and a Basque sheep herder, or a tiny restaurant deep in Baja California where the owner drank homemade meal with us. I also ended up walking out of the mountains of Idaho on a very cold night and walking out of the Snake River canyon after a failed white water rafting adventure.
I like having the option of getting up in the morning, jumping in the car and just driving, find a little village, an isolated beach or a scenic view, then head back to civilization in the afternoon. I like the option to head to Mao for a night at the hotel and disco located right across the street from the University. Wreck Beach in Vancouver is right across the road from the University of British Columbia. The combination of a nude beach and college girls is my kind of place, same with a small town disco and college girls.
I'm halfway convinced and have time to give it lots of consideration.
Almost forgot, you mentioned an excellent point earlier about the tourist card line and the customs line at the airport. I had read about that before, but it had slipped my mind. I will make a note of it.
There is a possibility of me spending one night in BC, but thanks to the advice of many, I am sure there are better places for me to stay, including Sosua. Unlike many of you, sport fucking, or P4P, or GFE is only part of my ever-changing goals for this trip. I want to see some of the other things the country has to offer. While this does expose me to many potential risks, it also offers its own rewards. In order to maximize my ability to see the country, I've chosen to rent a car, something Mr. Gogo, whose opinion I have a great deal of respect for, claims is a big mistake.
There are many here, who, even though they are very experienced in the DR, never rent a car. They travel by bus, gua gua or taxi, when walking is not an option. Others always rent a car. It all depends on comfort level. Personally, I am more comfortable driving than doing just about anything else. I've driven well over 2 million miles, everywhere in the US (except Alaska), and in Canada and Mexico. I've driven everything from motorcycles to 18 wheelers on every type of road and in every type of weather. I learned a long time ago, that most people are very poor drivers. I make allowances, always know what is around me, what my options are and where my emergency exit is (driving tip: you should always have a default move, in case of emergency. First choice is to stop, but if that doesn't work, then usually going to the right, especially if there is a shoulder, is your next choice).
I realize that driving in the DR presents challenges, bad roads, bad drivers, lack of any consistent safety standards, are just a few. To reduce my risks, I plan to finish my driving before dark, never drive after drinking (2 years scraping dead drunks off the freeways in SoCal, cured me of that urge), and to not drive in Santo Domingo. I might even bypass Santiago, if I feel the traffic makes it too risky. I also plan on making my hotel choices based upon the parking situation. Overall I feel my chances to survive are good. If you feel differntly, I'd like to hear your perspective.
Where all I will go is undecided, it's an adventure. The adventure starts in two weeks, WiFi willing, I'll try to post updates.
Thanks again.Man don't let them scare you 1 or 2 night in BC is not bad. Just keep to yourself, be firm, say no hell when appropriate. As far as driving. I what driving in the DR my first trip. However that was after I learned the area a little and we had a chica that knew the area with us. Police prey on lost Gringos. Any ok driver can handle the drive from SD to ST and other areas. Its just going through SD that's the big risk factor. You must be use to very aggressive driving and have your navigation working very well. I wouldn't go BC to Naqua route solo.
I love your sense of adventure I am using it as motivation for me in Columbia next month. Mr G will be in Sosua during that time and you could link up with him when you are on the north coast. Bqk-Rib is on the south coast but if he hasn't reached out to you- let it go.
Man, I did invest quite some time reading up and that is what was steering me towards bringing gifts versus tips. I believe it was GrownMan1 that had a substantial amount of information on that with money saving techniques. .Yes this works for me. Sometimes the chica will offer to buy a dress if she loves 2 dresses and I am only giving her one. Its a great propina but I made mistakes learn this art. LOL. They will beg you for more if you seem too generous. Offer propina during price agreements after you take 500-1000 off your paying price. If the gift is nice she will walk out the room bragging to her amigas. Plus plus para ti.
If you do not want to use condoms, you will find plenty of chicas who will agree. The more professional ones may use it as a reason to charge more. Local girls rarely use condoms with their boyfriends and I have fucked plenty of semi-pros and non-pros without condoms.
I don't know I think finding a chica to go raw is not going to be easy. Only my regulars offer that and that's after sometime.
Man don't let them scare you 1 or 2 night in BC is not bad. Just keep to yourself, be firm, say no hell when appropriate. As far as driving. I what driving in the DR my first trip. However that was after I learned the area a little and we had a chica that knew the area with us. Police prey on lost Gringos. Any ok driver can handle the drive from SD to ST and other areas. Its just going through SD that's the big risk factor. You must be use to very aggressive driving and have your navigation working very well. I wouldn't go BC to Naqua route solo.
I love your sense of adventure I am using it as motivation for me in Columbia next month. Mr G will be in Sosua during that time and you could link up with him when you are on the north coast. Bqk-Rib is on the south coast but if he hasn't reached out to you- let it go.Thanks Grownman. Fear really isn't an issue, it's more of weighing the cost against the benefits. I'm thinking about some sort of compromise, bus to Sosua, then rent a car local to explore.
If you're going to be in Bogota, let me know. I'll get my friend there to give me the info on her friend. She can probably hook you up with some high quality chicas.
Thanks Grownman. Fear really isn't an issue, it's more of weighing the cost against the benefits. I'm thinking about some sort of compromise, bus to Sosua, then rent a car local to explore.
If you're going to be in Bogota, let me know. I'll get my friend there to give me the info on her friend. She can probably hook you up with some high quality chicas.Here are few tips for you. Your Spanish is going to have to be better than basic if you are going to do anything solo, brush up on your Spanish. If you are arriving at 1 pm and head to the bus station there will be a risk that by the time you get to the metro bus station that the last bus at 4 pm will be full. I would suggest that since its your first time in the DR that you head straight to Boca chica and be sipping a beer on the beach by 3 pm. Hangout on the strip and get a feel for the place by bar hopping that night, then catch the 7 am metro bus to Sosua and you will be sipping a beer on Sosua beach by noon. You can always finish your trip at Boca finishing up what you started. I suggested the metro bus because it makes less stops verses the carib bus. Take a jacket because the bus is cold but the view is unbelievable. The metro bus leaves SD at 7 am,11 am, and 4 pm. The carin bus leaves every hour but the ride is longer and with more stops. Catching the earl busses ensures you get a seat and usually you don't have a crowded bus with people sneezing all on you. The price will be about 35 usd to the bus station and 380 pesos for the bus and metro lets you off in Sosua, carib lets you off in Charmicis and the cab ride to Sosua is 150-200 pesos.
Also make your plans now because the hotels will fill up quickly as your dates approach. Casa Cayena is already full and I'm sure that New gardens is full as a few guys from this board are already there. I understand your adventurous side but take time to do the basics. Learn basic Spanish, know the pricing structure, don't tell girls its your first time, and stick to the basics. I guarantee you will be booking your next trip before you leave if you do the basics.
Charles Pooter
04-09-15, 13:52
... bus to Sosua, then rent a car local to explore.Commented on this in the Sosua section post #24191
Here are few tips for you. Your Spanish is going to have to be better than basic if you are going to do anything solo, brush up on your Spanish. If you are arriving at 1 pm and head to the bus station there will be a risk that by the time you get to the metro bus station that the last bus at 4 pm will be full. I would suggest that since its your first time in the DR that you head straight to Boca chica and be sipping a beer on the beach by 3 pm. Hangout on the strip and get a feel for the place by bar hopping that night, then catch the 7 am metro bus to Sosua and you will be sipping a beer on Sosua beach by noon. You can always finish your trip at Boca finishing up what you started. I suggested the metro bus because it makes less stops verses the carib bus. Take a jacket because the bus is cold but the view is unbelievable. The metro bus leaves SD at 7 am,11 am, and 4 pm. The carin bus leaves every hour but the ride is longer and with more stops. Catching the earl busses ensures you get a seat and usually you don't have a crowded bus with people sneezing all on you. The price will be about 35 usd to the bus station and 380 pesos for the bus and metro lets you off in Sosua, carib lets you off in Charmicis and the cab ride to Sosua is 150-200 pesos.
Also make your plans now because the hotels will fill up quickly as your dates approach. Casa Cayena is already full and I'm sure that New gardens is full as a few guys from this board are already there. I understand your adventurous side but take time to do the basics. Learn basic Spanish, know the pricing structure, don't tell girls its your first time, and stick to the basics. I guarantee you will be booking your next trip before you leave if you do the basics.It almost sounds as if you've done this before. That was an appreciative joke, not a sarcastic jab. I had not considered the 4 pm Metro bus being full, but the rest of that has crossed my mind. Thanks to a few older posts, I know about the advantages of Metro over Caribe. I had considered a first night stop in either BC or SD, if I run into any delays. I never know what to expect at an airport. In Bogota I had collected my baggage and was outside in less than 30 minutes, and 10 minutes was my own fault, and that was with a checked bag and a checked oversized item, a guitar. I expect the Dominicans are less efficient than the Columbians.
I'm working on my Spanish. Reading and writing I am decent, maybe 50%, speaking maybe 20%, but hearing only about 5%. Trying to bring those numbers up.
I'm fairly good at appearing competent, and will try to keep from looking like an easy target.
I was curious about Casa Cayena, that was my first choice, but if they're full I will try Plaza Europa. I made a note about a place in BC, if I stop there first night. Just can't recall the name at the moment.
If my flight is on time and I escape SDQ without major delays, I will probably head straight to Metro, if the bus is full I'll spend the night at Reyna Ysabel and catch the morning bus.
We were chilling in one of my hangout spots watching the street Chica walk by when a long came my ex novia and amiga. My ex novia had been trying to get back in good graces with me ever since I broke up with her. She came and told me that Maria the little chocolate a Chica had been talking about me other chicas. I had already heard this from Justice and E that Maria had been about badmouthing us. (they no good etc). Two minutes later Maria walks up and my brother put in his phone I heard you been talking about. Maria quickly started arguing with my ex novia. The argument became loud and they were about to fight. All of a sudden the police came over and we explain to them that Maria came over and wouldn't stop arguing. He walked Maria away and then ask my ex novia to come with him. I asked him was there a problem and he said no no problem everything is OK. I again told him she is novia and she was over here with me; when Maria came up and started arguing. 10 minutes later I get the word that they're taking my ex novia to jail. I was shocked the police officer had just told me everything was okay and it wasn't a problem. My ex-novia amiga was encouraging me to go to the police offices and talk to them. I know what this is so I reached in my pocket and pulled out 500 pesos walk to the police officer station and told the police officer that my novia did not start any arguments and I handed the money to him in a handshake. He quickly gave me back the money without even counting or looking at it. I looked in the inside of the station and my ex was there along with Maria and two other girls. Her amiga explained to me that if they take them to jail tomorrow the judge is going to let them out in the morning. The officer who did not take the money told me to stand there for a few minutes. He walked off and then came back and said two of the officers are willing to take money but one third officer was saying they're going to jail. This I did not understand. Were they trying to run game on me. As they got ready to place them inside of police car because the female prison is in Andres not Boca Chica which was only the holding area. My novia went into a frenzy. She started crying out loud falling out acting as if her mother had just died. It was a sad sight to see. I almost thought about offering the police officer who wouldn't take the money enough money that he couldn't confused but I smelled a rat so I walked away. My ex amiga said that my novia will probably need some money because she's going to be hungry. Shit it's about 230 in the morning. I am thinking, if she's getting up and out by 9 or 10 o'clock she'll be alright. I begin to walk back toward action and I picked up my number one seed on my way to my room. I noticed one of the police officers was following me as if he was going to speak to me. However when he saw me with another young lady walking into my hotel he turned around. I was wondering was he the one designated to make a deal with me and see how much I was willing to pay to save my ex novia. Hmmm oh well at least I know she won't be cock blocking me tonight.
...I know what this is so I reached in my pocket and pulled out 500 pesos walk to the police officer station and told the police officer that my novia did not start any arguments and I handed the money to him in a handshake...You can't bribe a Boca Chica police officer with just 500 pesos.
I don't recommend paying bribes, but for this offense, the rate is more like 3,000 - 5,000 pesos. Also, if you are going to do it, do it early in the game. Once other cops get involved, it gets too complicated and costly.
-Helpmann
24 Nights in Boca Chica (Hangin' out with the Politur) (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?501-Boca-Chica&p=310130&viewfull=1#post310130)
We were chilling in one of my hangout spots watching the street Chica walk by when a long came my ex novia and amiga. My ex novia had been trying to get back in good graces with me ever since I broke up with her. She came and told me that Maria the little chocolate a Chica had been talking about me other chicas. I had already heard this from Justice and E that Maria had been about badmouthing us. (they no good etc). Two minutes later Maria walks up and my brother put in his phone I heard you been talking about. Maria quickly started arguing with my ex novia. The argument became loud and they were about to fight. All of a sudden the police came over and we explain to them that Maria came over and wouldn't stop arguing. He walked Maria away and then ask my ex novia to come with him. I asked him was there a problem and he said no no problem everything is OK. I again told him she is novia and she was over here with me; when Maria came up and started arguing. 10 minutes later I get the word that they're taking my ex novia to jail. I was shocked the police officer had just told me everything was okay and it wasn't a problem. My ex-novia amiga was encouraging me to go to the police offices and talk to them. I know what this is so I reached in my pocket and pulled out 500 pesos walk to the police officer station and told the police officer that my novia did not start any arguments and I handed the money to him in a handshake. He quickly gave me back the money without even counting or looking at it. I looked in the inside of the station and my ex was there along with Maria and two other girls. Her amiga explained to me that if they take them to jail tomorrow the judge is going to let them out in the morning. The officer who did not take the money told me to stand there for a few minutes. He walked off and then came back and said two of the officers are willing to take money but one third officer was saying they're going to jail. This I did not understand. Were they trying to run game on me..Just 3 observations regarding your report.
A) Leave the "She said, you said "business to high schoolers, where it belongs. Unless you enjoy a cat fight.
B) Maria is a hardcore trashy girl always looking for trouble. I would not touch her even if paid.
C) As I said before, never go to a police station out of your own will. A gringo walking in is seen as Santa on Christmas Eve. Before you know it they will turn the tables on you.
You can't bribe a Boca Chica police officer with just 500 pesos.
I don't recommend paying bribes, but for this offense, the rate is more like 3,000 - 5,000 pesos. Also, if you are going to do it, do it early in the game. Once other cops get involved, it gets too complicated and costly.
-Helpmann
]Shit I have seen those bastards take 200 pesos. To leave.
Yo dog good post. But when the police get involved in anything, if you can walk away from the situation please do so. The more you interact with the police, you are asking their corrupt asses to play you. If you don't play from the beginning it's no game to be played. Also from the beginning when they are trying to bait you in, always play " dumb gringo". Nothing frustrates a Dominican cop more than a foreigner they can't communicate with. Usually they throw their hands in the air and walk away probably thinking "fucking dumb ass gringo" LOL.
Most times the girls are teamed up with the cops in these hustles, it's the Dominican way. We saw in Cuba how easy it is to fire girls and they go quietly, but in the DR it could lead to major drama. In Cuba tourists are untouchable and the girls don't want the cops locking their ass up for fucking with tourists. It's funny because I learned to like the outer bars in Sosua because I was ducking main novias who knew my spots on the strip. Nothing ruins a vacation like a psycho ex novia who is bringing out all her Dominican games trying to get you in a fucked up situation. Peace.
BrasilSoccer0
04-21-15, 01:23
Gents, I'm in BC now (20:22 local time) in a restaurant called "Muzart" great Pizza BTW.
Where is the best spot to have a beer and watch sexy chicas pass by tonight.
Thanks in advance.
P.S.: I got a rental and I'm staying in Guayacanes.
Gents, I'm in BC now (20:22 local time) in a restaurant called "Muzart" great Pizza BTW.
Where is the best spot to have a beer and watch sexy chicas pass by tonight.
Thanks in advance.
P.S.: I got a rental and I'm staying in Guayacanes.Just go to Duarte and have a seat at one of the bars / restaurants and the chicas will walk right by you. Select one you like.
BrasilSoccer0
04-21-15, 12:59
Thanks Qualude.
I just wanted to get a feel for the BC scene.
Not that many girls and they looked jaded and veterans. Some flat out ugly.
Small strip of peatonal street with few joints here and there.
Not my scene!
Just go to Duarte and have a seat at one of the bars / restaurants and the chicas will walk right by you. Select one you like.
Thanks Qualude.
I just wanted to get a feel for the BC scene.
Not that many girls and they looked jaded and veterans. Some flat out ugly.
Small strip of peatonal street with few joints here and there.
Not my scene!I don't know the time you were there but after 11.30 pm lots of talent descended upon the strip on their way to the Batey. A majority of Haitians with very nice bodies and some pretty Dominicans too.
BrasilSoccer0
04-21-15, 20:03
I was there around 9-10 pm.
I saw one Haitian 25 yrs mother who turned down 1000 pesos for TLN.
DR experts I'm leaving in less than 2 days and later to Colombia. If any of you interested in meeting up over beer PM me a msg with your number. My.
[Yonker;1710498]I don't know the time you were there but after 11.30 pm lots of talent descended upon the strip on their way to the Batey. A majority of Haitians with very nice bodies and some pretty Dominicans too. [ / QUOTE].
I was there around 9-10 pm.
I saw one Haitian 25 yrs mother who turned down 1000 pesos for TLN.
DR experts I'm leaving in less than 2 days and later to Colombia. If any of you interested in meeting up over beer PM me a msg with your number. My.
[Yonker;1710498]I don't know the time you were there but after 11.30 pm lots of talent descended upon the strip on their way to the Batey. A majority of Haitians with very nice bodies and some pretty Dominicans too. [ / QUOTE].
Last night was kind of slow in my opinion I think things will pick up a little later during the week.
Last night was kind of slow in my opinion I think things will pick up a little later during the week.
He will be doing much better in Colombia than BC that's for sure!
Mr Enternational
04-22-15, 01:42
Last night was kind of slow in my opinion I think things will pick up a little later during the week.That's okay. Come Friday night I will pick up where he left off. It will be my first overnighter in Boca Chica in years.
Spend a lot of time in Boca Chica last week things were back to normal. Though I've never made it inside of Baileys. I did benefit from the traffic. I saw my ex novia after the police situation. She didn't say anything about the incident. She never mentioned one word about going to jail or the argument or anything about that situation. She was all smiles trying to get me to come for a session. I did the I don't have any money. She came back with I've never asked you for money after sex you were my boyfriend drama. So I got weak and went back to that fat ass. All night with her trying to prove to me that she's once again girlfriend material. We can never be what we were before but I can enjoy this phat ass and good pussy. And I like the fact that she has her own place and is always asking me to spend the night. Funny thing I notice she hadn't shave. I say that pussy had not been shaving for at lease 4 months. In the morning I took her to breakfast and then dropped her off home. She only asked if I can come back tonight. I told her I'll see, but she knows the deal.
Got with my dark skin Boca Chica number one. I don't know who has the sexiest ass. Her or my ex. They both are winners in their own right.
I got with an cute 18 year old new on the strip. I was banging that young pussy so hard she started yelling mommy. That shit almost kill my erection. But I managed to find a way to make it motivational. hehehehehe Here's a picture of her swollen twat.
I got with an cute 18 year old new on the strip. I was banging that young pussy so hard she started yelling mommy. That shit almost kill my erection. But I managed to find a way to make it motivational. hehehehehe Here's a picture of her swollen twat.That thing looks distorted, what did you do to that poor thing!
Then I went and got a shorts slender chica with a fat ass. She reminded me of apiece of pussy I wanted in the States. Then there was a cute chocolate that went for the thousand peso deal. Here is a picture of her in jeans.
My new number one is all Haitian but constantly asking me to help her get off the streets. I left her with 4 packs of hair she sold to. I let her keep 500 pesos a peck. My boy thought I was going to have a problem with getting my money back but she gave me my money. As soon as I arrived. She is so chocolate and sexy but I have to make love to her because she doesn't want to f* . I also hit 1 of my 1000 pesos chicas. I saw her take the money across it with it. She was thanking The All High that she was able to find that 1000 peso fishing with me. She's not cute in the face at all but she has a body that's nice and firm. I love the sleepers.
Then I went and got a shorts slender chica with a fat ass. She reminded me of apiece of pussy I wanted in the States. Then there was a cute chocolate that went for the thousand peso deal. Here is a picture of her in jeans.
My new number one is all Haitian but constantly asking me to help her get off the streets. I left her with 4 packs of hair she sold to. I let her keep 500 pesos a peck. My boy thought I was going to have a problem with getting my money back but she gave me my money. As soon as I arrived. She is so chocolate and sexy but I have to make love to her because she doesn't want to f* . I also hit 1 of my 1000 pesos chicas. I saw her take the money across it with it. She was thanking The All High that she was able to find that 1000 peso fishing with me. She's not cute in the face at all but she has a body that's nice and firm. I love the sleepers.Then I have this 5'10 160 pounds haitian monster. She massages my back and let me pound her ass until my workout is complete.
I had to dismiss "The Gun" my 19 year old Dominican with no kids. Pussy hot and smells like baby oil. She's found a way to constantly call me on facebook message. She is always asking where was I when I was coming back. I promise her a cellphone and I bought it for her. But I let her know that she's getting either the phone, hair, or the regular 2000 pesos. At first she shows the phone. After realizing it was in the iphone, she wanted some hair. I told her I wasn't giving her the 30 inch that goes to hot ass. She was going to get the cheaper 20 inch. She changed her mind and decided she wanted money. Cool I left her in my room watching cartoons. When I came back she told me her cycle was on. I gave her 200 pesos (for a moto home) and told her that's all I got until the bank tomorrow. I know you wants to go home and take care your female problem. I end up giving the phone to my Haitian monster. She needed the phone and its value was worth more in 1500 pesos. She's right the phone cost me 38 dollars on Amazon. Oh by the way we are now selling phones.
Its the hustler in me Parkinson.
Spend a lot of time in Boca Chica last week things were back to normal. Though I've never made it inside of Baileys. I did benefit from the traffic. I saw my ex novia after the police situation. She didn't say anything about the incident. She never mentioned one word about going to jail or the argument or anything about that situation. She was all smiles trying to get me to come for a session. I did the I don't have any money. She came back with I've never asked you for money after sex you were my boyfriend drama. So I got weak and went back to that fat ass. All night with her trying to prove to me that she's once again girlfriend material. We can never be what we were before but I can enjoy this phat ass and good pussy. And I like the fact that she has her own place and is always asking me to spend the night. Funny thing I notice she hadn't shave. I say that pussy had not been shaving for at lease 4 months. In the morning I took her to breakfast and then dropped her off home. She only asked if I can come back tonight. I told her I'll see, but she knows the deal.
Got with my dark skin Boca Chica number one. I don't know who has the sexiest ass. Her or my ex. They both are winners in their own right.You must be a lucky man to have this twat.
Parkinsons
05-09-15, 16:21
She needed the phone and its value was worth more in 1500 pesos. She's right the phone cost me 38 dollars on Amazon. Oh by the way we are now selling phones.
Its the hustler in me Parkinson.Haha cool story bro. Always nice to hear your hustling moves. I just got back from a week in Beijing. The mongering was very very sub-par (due to government crackdown). I think I hustled the airlines though. Biz class around the globe for less than what I'd paid to fly economy to the DR. At any rate, I'm done with communist countries for a while. DR I shall return!
P.S. I didn't bring back any human hair from China, but my Santiago regular will get a fake LV bag (or two).
European Man
05-20-15, 22:03
Hi all,
I am planning my first Holiday to Boca Chica. May you advise me about how much is the range for carrying on girls on the Duarte (better if Haitian with dark skin) during the night for having a long time (no one shot.).
I ask this because on this forum I read that there is who pays 1000 pesos and who pays more than 2500.
Moreover, somebody knows what are budget hotels on the Duarte?
Thanks
Mr Enternational
05-21-15, 06:08
Hi all,
I am planning my first Holiday to Boca Chica. May you advise me about how much is the range for carrying on girls on the Duarte (better if Haitian with dark skin) during the night for having a long time (no one shot.).
I ask this because on this forum I read that there is who pays 1000 pesos and who pays more than 2500.Looks like you have answered your own question. Also remember that it may not be a good idea with a girl you don't already know because she may try to leave after one shot and still want the same money.
Marc Anthony
05-21-15, 21:22
Hi all,
I am planning my first Holiday to Boca Chica. May you advise me about how much is the range for carrying on girls on the Duarte (better if Haitian with dark skin) during the night for having a long time (no one shot.).
I ask this because on this forum I read that there is who pays 1000 pesos and who pays more than 2500.
Moreover, somebody knows what are budget hotels on the Duarte?
ThanksMr. Enternational's advice is solid. Don't pay any new chica for all night (TLN). If it goes very well you can always talk about her staying longer. If it doesn't you are better off paying her off and getting her gone. TLN is for chicas you know well and you have had lots of time to discuss it.
If you are a frugal tourist you can find a lot of budget hotels that cater to Europeans especially Italians who often stay for weeks. You can find $20/ night or $400 a month but no AC, no hot water, no planta. There's one on Air BnB. If you are staying for awhile you can be patient, get to know the chicas and not pay more than 1500 pesos. Especially in the afternoon. The shorter your stay the more you will pay.
EastCoast11
05-29-15, 16:42
First timer heading to DR. Can any senior members or fellow mongers advise what the best area / location I can find "light skinned to tanned" Dominican girls? I've read and heard most of these girls are on the dark to darker side. I prefer the lighter ones. Where should I start?
Charles Pooter
05-29-15, 18:17
I prefer the lighter ones. Where should I start?Colombia!!
Colombia!!As a bonus, I just noticed a very cheap fare to Bogota for June, $412 round trip from Indianapolis, although Medellin is everyone's preferred mongering location.
Light skinned / tanned are few and far between in the DR, although it is said they are a little more common in Santiago.
Marc Anthony
05-29-15, 19:43
First timer heading to DR. Can any senior members or fellow mongers advise what the best area / location I can find "light skinned to tanned" Dominican girls? I've read and heard most of these girls are on the dark to darker side. I prefer the lighter ones. Where should I start?The classic advice would be Santiago which is the No. 2 city in the RD. There are plenty of chicas of all types in Santo Domingo, the big city, too. There are enough light skinned chicas in Sosua and Puerto Plata to provide you with options, they just aren't the majority. I am assuming you mean Blanca's, Latina white girls. Charles of course is right that Columbia is ideal location for them.
First timer heading to DR. Can any senior members or fellow mongers advise what the best area / location I can find "light skinned to tanned" Dominican girls? I've read and heard most of these girls are on the dark to darker side. I prefer the lighter ones. Where should I start?Santiago will be to your liking.
Mr G & I will be in Boca Chica tomorrow. With our chocolate fetishes we are bound for trouble and a good ass time. We already have two chocolate chicas from San Pedro. They want us to choose but that's too easy. Mr G don't get me in trouble please.
I've been to Boca about a dozen times over the years so I've learned to not take Boca seriously. Don't expect much and you won't be disappointed. I like the way they put the chairs in the street at night it gives a festival feeling to the area.
Italian dudes are still king here but they are very cool. The fancy upscale restaurants appear to be doing good business at night. Boca is very diverse with a nice mixture. Everyone wants to run a hustle on me because they think I'm new. I'm not really trying to press sex here after putting in some good fucking in the last two days in Sosua. Maybe Boca might have a hairy older MILF with school teacher glasses LOL.
Mr G & I will be in Boca Chica tomorrow. With our chocolate fetishes we are bound for trouble and a good ass time. We already have two chocolate chicas from San Pedro. They want us to choose but that's too easy. Mr G don't get me in trouble please.Thank you San Pedro and GM. Miss K was all that and more. Don't have time to do any reporting, having much fun on the roller coaster now.
Tempoecorto
07-05-15, 03:07
Yes, that is right. From Parque independencia to the Boca Chica terminus in Parque Enriquillo and then on to Boca Chica on express A / see bus.
Had a day in Santo Domingo and decided to finally explore the famed location. Around Parque independencia, there is a fire station. On that side there is a Optica Oviedo a large store. The buses from Boca Chica on weekdays pass around that store and so I took the free ride that took me to the Boca Chica terminus. I had very little luggage but the conductor helped me place it under a bench and when the bus was full, which took about 10 minutes of wait, we started. I paid 60 pesos for the ride all the way to the central park in Boca Chica in calle Duarte.
Here is an even more interesting discovery. The bus had a bunch of people who were going to the airport, so to my utter surprise, the bus made a detour to the departure floor of the airport and dropped the people. This means that if I am lucky, next time, I can catch the same bus and ride to Boca Chica for a pittance. The interesting thing though, the bus would not do that. I. e. , the detour to airport on the way back e. G. , BC to Santo Domingo did not find a satisfactory explanation for it though. They said, the bus would drop you on the airport junction on the highway, to catch the final ride to the airport.
Got to BC at around 11 AM. Very hot day. Went walking to Casa Coco. Thierry the owner is a gentle soul. The place looked clean and well appointed. $30 per night.
Went out after another shower. Found a place on Duarte with fresh bread and a variety of salami and so got them to make a sandwich with a soft drink.
Place was rather quiet. Went to the beach to check the place, usual vendors and " Amigo" calls. I thought the view of large petroleum reservoirs and cranes across from the beach not too far away was not a comforting sight. At least it did not engender any interest in getting to that water. Went back to hotel after a cappuccino and had a siesta.
Around 6 PM, had another shower and walked out to get to Caribe express, changed $100 at 44.70 and then went to sit at the park. Soon met two paisan, one from Abruzzo, the other from Mantova both retirees and long term residents. Shot the breeze with them for quite a while when one introduced me to a nice looking Haitiana. Was not interested which miffed the Abruzzese. The talent quality was rather meager. Asked them what is a good place for Italian that night. Both pointed out the restaurant right there, the other side of the park called Ristorantino. Unfortunately, when I checked the place, it looked closed. On speaking with the lady in the eponymous bar, the Italian woman said, probably the place will be closed that night. She suggested " La Terrazza" right on the.
Beach. Since I was looking specifically for sea food (oh saw the row of fried fish places on the street parallel to Duarte, pass!) and we chatted in Italian, I decided to take her advice.
The place looked fairly empty as did the town. I ordered a dish of tagliatelle with clams and shrimps. Sauce in garlic, olive oil and fresh tomato. The pasta was freshly made. It was absolutely divine. I have not eaten that well in a long while. Now it was expensive that pasta dish alone cost 580 pesos. Quite happy with the meal, I went out to the main drag which by then had shut off traffic and with chairs all along the street a lot of diners in front of Pequena Suiza between the pizzeria and the pork shanks. Walked a little and had an expresso at the bar on the left going towards the park, run by Anna, the Italian chica and then lit a cigar and decide to squat on the sidewalk to watch the talent go by. Indeed there was not much to speak of and I had to get up early. As I was finishing my cigar, I see a girl walk by along with her friend accompanied by a little boy. I thought she had a pretty face and so I waved. She came and sat next to me, right on Duarte and was keen to know how my dick was doing, which of course had already started reacting to the more and more insistent probing. This to me is a bad sign. Such women typically do not do much once inside with a whole slew of no to this and no to that. Anyway decided that I need to take a chance and as I have not done this in a long while in the DR, picking up unknown characters like this, I had a bit of concern. I walked back to the hotel with her and Thierry gave her a OK so upstairs to the room. As I had anticipated, there were a couple of no. But the good news is that eventually she came around and I had a fast, 30 minutes session for 1000 pesos agreed upon previously. She is originally from San Pedro and she gave me her home phone number. In case anyone is interested. Tight body, a flaca, a 34 B and a sweet and friendly face, in case anyone is interested.
She left and I went to bed. So Boca Chica is definitely worth coming back to, but for the food. In fact, Gogo had suggested this once. Airport to BC, for a real cheap bus fare, spend a day in BC and go back by bus for a measly 60 pesos to SD and onward.
Camaro1257
07-05-15, 13:02
Camaro's view of Boca Chica & Calle Duarte July 2015.
I spent the 4th of July weekend with friends in Boca Chica, therefore I will share some of the current happenings in Boca Chica specifically the area of Calle Duarte. I was only in town for 2 days therefore I did not take an exhaustive look at Boca Chica because there was insufficient time.
The below listed notes are submitted for your review.
Hotel Garant & Suites 9 Sanchez Boca Chica.
Hotel Garant is in a good location because you can walk to Parque Central, Calle Duarte and Playa Boca Chica within 5 minutes. The hotel has a downstairs balcony that is used as a dining room area that faces the street so you can watch the foot traffic going to the strip. During the course of the day different groups of chicas will hang out in the balcony area waiting for clients who are staying in the hotel much like New Garden chicas.
The reception area has a pool table and desk top computer that is available for guest. Most of the rooms have air-conditioning, they have basic furnishings with queen size beds. I had a room with air conditioning that was not super cold but it left the room very comfortable during the heat of the summer.
I didn't use the pool, WIFI, TV or room safe but they all were available. The hotel was guest friendly with chicas being required to leave their cedula at the front desk. I enjoyed my stay at the hotel and would gladly stay again if I were return to Boca Chica.
Playa Boca Chica.
Playa Boca Chica is the focal point of the area and on Sundays many locals use the beach for recreation. The beach is full of touts selling their wares and can be very annoying. There are plenty of women that use the beach but tenga mucho cuidado because some are civilians that are not in play as well as others are not of age. There are a plethora of restaurants available for you to eat your favorite seafood.
Calle Duarte.
Calle Duarte is the primary street in Boca Chica where you can find most of the action both day and night. The street is closed after 8 pm to vehicular traffic and the different restaurants and night clubs put their tables and chairs out on the street. There are plenty of casas de cambio and a Banco Popular ATM that is available for those who need them.
There are a plethora of restaurants that offer everything from Italian to comida tipica. Below I have listed some of the venues on Calle Duarte but there are too many to make an exhaustive list.
Parque Central.
Parque Central is on the west end of Calle Duarte next to Policia Nacional Headquarters for Boca Chica. It is a small park with greenery and park benches. It is frequented by locals laughing joking and playing dominoes along with working girls sprinkled in. Once again tenga mucho cuidado because some of the chicas are civilians who are not in play and are there with their family and friends.
Colmado El Maestro.
Colmado El Maestro is a convenient store that has a few chairs out in front where you can buy your favorite beverage and sit and watch the chica traffic. It is a gathering place for some street chicas later in the afternoon and evening.
Piano Bar.
The Piano Bar is one of the primary venues on Calle Duarte. The venue has 3 basic parts they place chairs on the street and have waitresses outside to serve you. There is an open air section next to the bar with seating and the inside of the club. The Piano Bar is the primary early evening pick up spot for Calle Duarte before El Batey gets cranking after midnight. The waitresses are available for a 1000 pesos salida and whatever you negotiate with the individual chica.
Bar Latino Club Bachata.
Bar Latino had one of the waitresses sitting outside soliciting pedestrian traffic to come inside. The inside of the venue is very nice inside with couches chairs a bar and an area for dancing and a stripper pole. The waitresses will dance clothed for tips and are available to go out with patrons however the deal is strictly between the chic and the client there is no salida.
El Batey.
El Batey is the primary Calle Duarte venue after midnight. The traffic varies depending on the day of the week with the major crowd gathering after 2 am. Security checks you down stairs and you walk up stairs to several seating areas. There is a dance floor, section that faces inside the club, section that faces Calle Duarte and you can watch the foot traffic and a back balcony that has an open air feel. Again you want to tenga mucho cuidado while most of the women are in play there are clearly some civilians who are with their novios family and friends.
The above just covers some of the main Calle Duarte venues.
Sosua vs Boca Chica and Pricing.
There are several differences between Sosua and Boca Chica one being the pricing. It is very easy to get chicas in Boca Chica for 1000-1500 pesos ST & 2000 pesos TLN. Where as in Sosua 2000 pesos is the new 1500 pesos and it is not uncommon for people to pay 3000 pesos for ST. Another primary difference is the presence of Haitianas vs Dominicanas along with the quality level. High end very attractive chicas travel to Sosua more frequently than Boca Chica because it is understood they can easily earn more money.
The talent level leaves much to be desires and if you can find a 7 you are doing well. It appeared to me that the more attractive chicas were with boyfriends or family and friends.
Las Haitianas de Boca Chica.
I anecdotally found the Haitians to be more distant and less friendly than Sosua Haitianas who are more approachable and humble. I approached a very attractive Haitiana who looked like she fell out of a magazine and after greeting her she looked at me like I was stupid. I was later told that she was the "Queen Bee Haitiana" and she commands no less than 3000 pesos. It is reported Afro Americans are rejected by some Boca Chica Haitianas because they have been spoiled by Europeans who sometimes spend more money on them.
Conclusion.
Since my stay was only for 2 days I did not get a chance to check the casa de citas and other venues that the town has to offer. This is low season and there were neither many tourist nor chicas available during my stay. In found the chicas in general to be more detached and less friendly than Sosua. Both Boca Chica and Sosua are "Hoe Towns" but Sosua is my "Hoe Town" because I am more familiar with it and feel very comfortable there but as in everything YMMV.
BC chica #2 pic 3 of 3
She has a real smile and some real hooters. D to DD I'm guessing. Good to look at during dinner. Cut her loose after dinner and went down the hill iso #3.
ZShe passed away I loved her tit's so much, sorry to hear she passed.
Boca Chica vs. Sosua.
I haven't been on this post in a while, good to be back. I have a trip set up for September, 2 good weeks and I choose to go South this time. My reason is this. I am tired of seeing the same women in Sosua, Boca I like because of how close it is to the Capital. To me Sosua is for the newbie and experience traveler goes to the Capital and goes to Boca for the beach. Yes, Boca is smaller than Sosua. But because of the younger crowd that is going that is going to Sosua now, the experience is not the same as before. I was in Sosua in March of this year, and what I saw made me uncomfortable. I saw brothers smoking weed out in the open, and drinking in the street outside of Rumba. With the liquor they purchased, not from the club. For a old timer like myself who remembers the old days. These actions cause a problem. The women in Sosua are asking for crazy prices not just high prices. And the brothers are giving it to them. Because they have money to burn on vacation. This is not what being a monger is about. If I wish to pay these prices then I will go to the Capital, where I know I will get a least a 9 for that price. I am now looking at other places in the South, San Cristobal is my new hunting ground. I have heard a lot of women tell me they are from this area and I am very interested in exploring it. Yes, at one time I loved Sosua. But for the feel of the old times, I think Boca is a better choice for the experience monger. I am not saying in the future I will not go back Sosua, but for a change I need to be in the South now. So the debate is not between Sosua & Boca, the debate is between the area and what you have access to between the two cities. Sosua you have Puerto Plata & for a drive or bus ride you have Santiago. Boca you have the Capital, Juan Dolio, La Romana & San Cristobal. I will take Boca's ratio any time.
Hey,
I'm hoping to get a review of Club Fantasy Island. The all inclusive's were recently discussed on the Puerto Plata thread, and it got me thinking about trying one. I'm looking for a review by someone here with at least a little history of posting. I found a lot of posts discussing it, but none giving an actual hands on review.
I'm looking to hear about quality of girls (looks, attitude), the facilities (room, WiFi, cable TV, pool, etc), the food, the service, etc. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Hey,
I'm hoping to get a review of Club Fantasy Island. The all inclusive's were recently discussed on the Puerto Plata thread, and it got me thinking about trying one. I'm looking for a review by someone here with at least a little history of posting. I found a lot of posts discussing it, but none giving an actual hands on review.
I'm looking to hear about quality of girls (looks, attitude), the facilities (room, WiFi, cable TV, pool, etc), the food, the service, etc. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
ThanksThey have their own discussion forum. There's a link to it on the website. The forum is unmoderated. Quite a few of the people who are repeat customers post there. It's probably not the perfect source for info, because anyone who had a bad experience, isn't as likely to post, but it should give you some sources.
I posted a similar request for info here several months ago. I think there was only 1 response from someone who had been there, and it was not recent.
They have their own discussion forum. There's a link to it on the website. The forum is unmoderated. Quite a few of the people who are repeat customers post there. It's probably not the perfect source for info, because anyone who had a bad experience, isn't as likely to post, but it should give you some sources.
I posted a similar request for info here several months ago. I think there was only 1 response from someone who had been there, and it was not recent.I contacted CFI twice and gave them days to reply. No response. Therefore, my first and last impression of them is that they have poor customer service. I wanted to try something different, but I'll be sticking to the north coast for now.
I contacted CFI twice and gave them days to reply. No response. Therefore, my first and last impression of them is that they have poor customer service. I wanted to try something different, but I'll be sticking to the north coast for now.That's a very common complaint on their forum. It appears as if the contact form on the website is not reliable, or it goes to an email account that is not regularly checked. There are a couple of options available. You could call the phone number on the website. During normal business hours, someone should answer. Another option is to email the owner directly. That's how I contacted them and had a response the next day.
Or the easiest thing to do is to assume that a computer related issue with people who are not computer savvy is a good enough reason to forget the idea.
If you choose the second option, I have his email somewhere.
First time in Boca Chica, went to the local playa, loved the vibe of the place, found a nice seafood stall vendor and had a fried parrot fish. Then as the sun was setting back.
To the room for a quick snooze. The evening was out to Calle Duarte, walked from bar to bar having a beer in each. Finally settled in front of one with the coldest beer of all sampled.
Lots of friendly ladies to choose from including the one with missing her left leg. Was told by a girl who was drinking with me she does cam shows for the crowd that likes that sort of thing.
Lots of lovely girls mid 20's and up to choose from, didn't sample any of the talent as I was entertained by one of the locals having been many places in the past, this is one beach town that could be a lot of fun. No where near Pattaya caliber but the one street had lots to choose from.
Spent the day at Neptune's lounging and drinking, will be going back again soon as I'm staying in the area for a bit.
Camaro1257
08-10-15, 16:15
Boca Chica otra vez.
I have previously stated I felt like Boca Chica was the armpit of the Dominican Republic but perhaps I have been too harsh. Since I depart and arrive in Santo Domingo because it is less expensive than arriving in Puerto Plata I might make Boca Chica a regular pit stop.
I can be a bit judgmental at times if I have a first bad impression. I realize sometimes you have to return to a person place or thing to see it with a different set of eyes so I returned to Boca Chica and I am glad I did. Below I listed my notes for your review.
El Batey- Calle Duarte.
I like El Batey because of its location on Calle Duarte and it is a mix between civilians and working girls which adds a different flavor for me and forces me to step up my game because you have to be careful not to make the wrong approach. El Batey is no doubt one of the premier night spots for Boca Chica.
I like that you can sit inside or outside depending on your preference. In addition this is not only a place to hunt but a place you can take dates if you so desire.
Maximo Playa- Playa Boca Chica.
Maximo Playa is a restaurant-bar-club that literally sits on the beach at the far west end of Playa Boca Chica. It is an open air venue and the restaurant includes comida tipica and different seafood dishes. Since it is on the beach there is a jet ski dock where you can see jet skis and boats pulling up to the restaurant.
They play Latin music and people can be seen dancing in the isles. When I was there I saw mostly couples and and families but I am told in the evenings there are some beautiful women who come out. It was a pleasant diversion from Calle Duarte.
Playboy Club (Green Bar) Calle Jose Pena Gomez.
I went for a stroll on Calle Jose Pena Gomez north from Calle Duarte and found the Playboy Club. The Playboy Club is a casa de cita, where the girls sit outside watching the traffic go by. I went inside and the girls followed. There was a bar where the Mamasan also served as the bartender. I sat at the bar and the girls did their booty dance trying to get my attention on the dance floor in front of the bar.
There are rooms in house and the Mamasan told me it is 2500ST, 4000 for 2 hours and 5000 TLN. I didn't negotiate but I got the feeling she would be flexible. There were 4 girls 1 was an 8 and my opinion flaca with a canela complexion and the others ranged between 6-7. The Mamasan advised there are more chicas available.
Casa Iraisa Calle Juan Batista.
Casa Iraisa is behind a steel sliding gate and when you walk in you enter a pool area. After arriving they ring the bell and about 12 chicas present themselves. Let me say this is no Crystals-Puerto Plata or Passions-Santiago if there was 1 "7" in the group they would have been doing well. The chicas were not high pressure like Crystals they were laid back.
The pool looked to be an ornament because it appeared to be unused. There was also a restaurant on site but no menu. REALLY?. Go figure! The prices quoted were 2500ST 4000 for 2 hours and 5500 TLN. Yayow advised el hefe came down to 1500ST.
There are rooms in house or you can take the chica out. Talent rotates so what is poor today might be better tomorrow.
Latin Quartest Discotque.
The Latin Quartest Discotque is next to Casa Iraisa but not affiliated. The back door to the disco leads to the Casa Iraisa pool and restaurant. Apparently the chicas from Casa Iraisa are not permitted in the disco. Although we did not go inside it was early and the disco did not appear to have many patrons.
Paco's Drink-LOS Coquitos, Boca Chica.
Paco's Drink reminded me of the Dominican night clubs I visited in Esperanza, Mao, Bonao & Jarabacoa. It had a very Dominican feel and was nothing like Classicos or El Batey. Although I cannot be sure I didn't get the impression anybody was working because I did not receive any "puta stares. " The music was Merengue, Bachata and Reggeton and although there was no dance floor people were dancing in-between their tables and chairs.
I met an absolutely sexy chica but when I hit her with my Spanish she looked at me and advised me she was from New York and she spoke English. Can you say "BOOM!" Anyways she was on vacation visiting her sister and as leaving the following day.
The spot had quite a few men and couples but there appeared to be very few single ladies when I was there. I enjoyed this spot because it was very "Dominican" by that I mean everybody was tranquilo drinking, smoking hookah, dancing and just over all having a good time. This will probably be the highlight of my Boca Chica stay because it was good to get off Calle Duarte and experience some normalcy just like it is good to get off Pedro Clisante in Sosua.
Avenida 20 de Diciembre.
Avenida 20 de Diciembre is around the corner from Duarte and not a far walk from El Batey. This is the street that the all-inclusive resort Be Live Hamaca is on. The below listed venues are on this street also.
KOTICE Night Club.
This is primarily a Dominican spot with an in-door and outside section. The outside section has a bar with tables and chairs that face the street and they also have a restaurant. When I went is was very slow with maybe a half dozen couples.
BC.
This is the night club for Be Live Hamaca and it is very large inside. There are 2 dancefloors and 2 bars. There are also tables and chairs along with couches. When I went is was almost empty.
Conclusion.
Boca Chica is more than Calle Duarte there are other venues off Duarte that can provide potential, in addition just like there is more to Sosua than Pedro Clisante there is more to Boca Chica than Calle Duarte. If you speak Spanish and have a sense of adventure there are a host of colmados and smaller clubs were you can find action if you are not timid.
My significant other and I are in search of sane, drug-free, couples (extranjero & dominicana) in the Santo Domingo / Boca Chica area for full-swap sex. We already have another couple and are looking to add 2-3 more couples to the mix.
Cheers,
Helpmann
Charles Pooter
10-29-15, 14:31
Well up to your usual high standards, Camaro. Most helpful report I have ever read on BC.
Have you ever considered collecting and editing your reports from all boards and self-publishing as a booklet on Amazon? You only print off a small batch of copies at a time, so you could constantly add and update stuff.
Best to edit out any info that could identify you. We don't want another Cuba Dave situation.
I would be happy to proof-read for you (changing "isles" to "aisles" for example). Only danger there is that I might accidentally insert some "real" English for American English.
I can be a bit judgmental at times if I have a first bad impression.Less so than most. I usually admire your impartial and fact-based assessments.
Having said that, you were a bit harsh on Rancho Tipico in Sosua. Ad is a bully and a racist but the locale provided a service that nowhere else did. And if we all boycotted places where the owners are bullies or racists, 90% of our favorite spots in the DR would be empty.
I agree with Charles. Your reports are consistently excellent. Any newbie can het the ground running if the read your stuff.
Well up to your usual high standards, Camaro. Most helpful report I have ever read on BC.
Have you ever considered collecting and editing your reports from all boards and self-publishing as a booklet on Amazon? You only print off a small batch of copies at a time, so you could constantly add and update stuff.
Best to edit out any info that could identify you. We don't want another Cuba Dave situation.
I would be happy to proof-read for you (changing "isles" to "aisles" for example). Only danger there is that I might accidentally insert some "real" English for American English.
Less so than most. I usually admire your impartial and fact-based assessments.
Having said that, you were a bit harsh on Rancho Tipico in Sosua. Ad is a bully and a racist but the locale provided a service that nowhere else did. And if we all boycotted places where the owners are bullies or racists, 90% of our favorite spots in the DR would be empty.
Camaro1257
10-29-15, 21:25
Well up to your usual high standards, Camaro. Most helpful report I have ever read on BC.
Have you ever considered collecting and editing your reports from all boards and self-publishing as a booklet on Amazon? You only print off a small batch of copies at a time, so you could constantly add and update stuff.
Best to edit out any info that could identify you. We don't want another Cuba Dave situation.
I would be happy to proof-read for you (changing "isles" to "aisles" for example). Only danger there is that I might accidentally insert some "real" English for American English.
Less so than most. I usually admire your impartial and fact-based assessments.
Having said that, you were a bit harsh on Rancho Tipico in Sosua. Ad is a bully and a racist but the locale provided a service that nowhere else did. And if we all boycotted places where the owners are bullies or racists, 90% of our favorite spots in the DR would be empty.I am a member of a couple of mongering boards, I think it would be best to keep my reporting in those venues. My reporting at times can be time consuming therefore I really do not wish to invest any more time and effort than I already do.
You are right about Rancho Tipco sometimes I am not as objective as I try to be. I really tapered my response; I actually considered using commercial means such as ads and web-sites to show my displeasure but frankly I was very angry and that type of response really wasn't worth the effort especially in light of what has just happened.
Boca Chica otra vez.
I have previously stated I felt like Boca Chica was the armpit of the Dominican Republic but perhaps I have been too harsh. Since I depart and arrive in Santo Domingo because it is less expensive than arriving in Puerto Plata I might make Boca Chica a regular pit stop.
I can be a bit judgmental at times if I have a first bad impression. I realize sometimes you have to return to a person place or thing to see it with a different set of eyes so I returned to Boca Chica and I am glad I did. Below I listed my notes for your review.
El Batey- Calle Duarte.
I like El Batey because of its location on Calle Duarte and it is a mix between civilians and working girls which adds a different flavor for me and forces me to step up my game because you have to be careful not to make the wrong approach. El Batey is no doubt one of the premier night spots for Boca Chica.
I like that you can sit inside or outside depending on your preference. In addition this is not only a place to hunt but a place you can take dates if you so desire.
Maximo Playa- Playa Boca Chica.
Maximo Playa is a restaurant-bar-club that literally sits on the beach at the far west end of Playa Boca Chica. It is an open air venue and the restaurant includes comida tipica and different seafood dishes. Since it is on the beach there is a jet ski dock where you can see jet skis and boats pulling up to the restaurant.
They play Latin music and people can be seen dancing in the isles. When I was there I saw mostly couples and and families but I am told in the evenings there are some beautiful women who come out. It was a pleasant diversion from Calle Duarte.
Playboy Club (Green Bar) Calle Jose Pena Gomez.
I went for a stroll on Calle Jose Pena Gomez north from Calle Duarte and found the Playboy Club. The Playboy Club is a casa de cita, where the girls sit outside watching the traffic go by. I went inside and the girls followed. There was a bar where the Mamasan also served as the bartender. I sat at the bar and the girls did their booty dance trying to get my attention on the dance floor in front of the bar.
There are rooms in house and the Mamasan told me it is 2500ST, 4000 for 2 hours and 5000 TLN. I didn't negotiate but I got the feeling she would be flexible. There were 4 girls 1 was an 8 and my opinion flaca with a canela complexion and the others ranged between 6-7. The Mamasan advised there are more chicas available.
Casa Iraisa Calle Juan Batista.
Casa Iraisa is behind a steel sliding gate and when you walk in you enter a pool area. After arriving they ring the bell and about 12 chicas present themselves. Let me say this is no Crystals-Puerto Plata or Passions-Santiago if there was 1 "7" in the group they would have been doing well. The chicas were not high pressure like Crystals they were laid back.
The pool looked to be an ornament because it appeared to be unused. There was also a restaurant on site but no menu. REALLY?. Go figure! The prices quoted were 2500ST 4000 for 2 hours and 5500 TLN. Yayow advised el hefe came down to 1500ST.
There are rooms in house or you can take the chica out. Talent rotates so what is poor today might be better tomorrow.
Latin Quartest Discotque.
The Latin Quartest Discotque is next to Casa Iraisa but not affiliated. The back door to the disco leads to the Casa Iraisa pool and restaurant. Apparently the chicas from Casa Iraisa are not permitted in the disco. Although we did not go inside it was early and the disco did not appear to have many patrons.
Paco's Drink-LOS Coquitos, Boca Chica.
Paco's Drink reminded me of the Dominican night clubs I visited in Esperanza, Mao, Bonao & Jarabacoa. It had a very Dominican feel and was nothing like Classicos or El Batey. Although I cannot be sure I didn't get the impression anybody was working because I did not receive any "puta stares. " The music was Merengue, Bachata and Reggeton and although there was no dance floor people were dancing in-between their tables and chairs.
I met an absolutely sexy chica but when I hit her with my Spanish she looked at me and advised me she was from New York and she spoke English. Can you say "BOOM!" Anyways she was on vacation visiting her sister and as leaving the following day.
The spot had quite a few men and couples but there appeared to be very few single ladies when I was there. I enjoyed this spot because it was very "Dominican" by that I mean everybody was tranquilo drinking, smoking hookah, dancing and just over all having a good time. This will probably be the highlight of my Boca Chica stay because it was good to get off Calle Duarte and experience some normalcy just like it is good to get off Pedro Clisante in Sosua.
Avenida 20 de Diciembre.
Avenida 20 de Diciembre is around the corner from Duarte and not a far walk from El Batey. This is the street that the all-inclusive resort Be Live Hamaca is on. The below listed venues are on this street also.
KOTICE Night Club.
This is primarily a Dominican spot with an in-door and outside section. The outside section has a bar with tables and chairs that face the street and they also have a restaurant. When I went is was very slow with maybe a half dozen couples.
BC.
This is the night club for Be Live Hamaca and it is very large inside. There are 2 dancefloors and 2 bars. There are also tables and chairs along with couches. When I went is was almost empty.
Conclusion.
Boca Chica is more than Calle Duarte there are other venues off Duarte that can provide potential, in addition just like there is more to Sosua than Pedro Clisante there is more to Boca Chica than Calle Duarte. If you speak Spanish and have a sense of adventure there are a host of colmados and smaller clubs were you can find action if you are not timid.Your report is fairly accurate but I don't agree with your perception of Paco's Drink. The place is a fire trap with only one exit and the corner where it is located can get very crowded, making it very difficult for cars to negociate or pull out, with people refusing to make way and acting in a rather hostile manner. I feel far more confortable in country side bateys that in these urban all-dominican venues where no matter how well you speak the language you are always an outsider and are often are seen with resentment, similar to places in the Bronx or Whashington Heights. In another matter I would like to mention the invasion of BC by Venezuelans selling rum, chocolates, cookies. The rums, Cacique and Santa Teresa are superior to the local product and the prices are ridiculous. No more than 225 pesos for the premium ones. So far only a few of the ladies have gravitate to the sex business with a few working at Irairsa and a couple doing the Duarte but I think is a matter of time. They are mostly white w. Ith big asses and so so faces. Last night together with Italians were the predominant group in a rather sad Halloween Night.
Russia, Czech Republic, Moldova, Hungary. You get my drift.
First timer heading to DR. Can any senior members or fellow mongers advise what the best area / location I can find "light skinned to tanned" Dominican girls? I've read and heard most of these girls are on the dark to darker side. I prefer the lighter ones. Where should I start?
Your report is fairly accurate but I don't agree with your perception of Paco's Drink. The place is a fire trap with only one exit and the corner where it is located can get very crowded, making it very difficult for cars to negociate or pull out, with people refusing to make way and acting in a rather hostile manner. I feel far more confortable in country side bateys that in these urban all-dominican venues where no matter how well you speak the language you are always an outsider and are often are seen with resentment, similar to places in the Bronx or Whashington Heights. In another matter I would like to mention the invasion of BC by Venezuelans selling rum, chocolates, cookies. The rums, Cacique and Santa Teresa are superior to the local product and the prices are ridiculous. No more than 225 pesos for the premium ones. So far only a few of the ladies have gravitate to the sex business with a few working at Irairsa and a couple doing the Duarte but I think is a matter of time. They are mostly white w. Ith big asses and so so faces. Last night together with Italians were the predominant group in a rather sad Halloween Night.Man has the Venezuelans invaded BC. Its been hard to find a room for the last 3 months. What the hell are so many of them are there for just to sell? My boi said he can wait until they start selling ass. I agree with you on the looks. That pretty much describes them. I am glad I missed H-ween there.
I will be in Boca Chica Nov. 26-29 and be happy to get in touch with anybody who happens to be in there at the same time. Let me know.
Just finished my first day in BC. First, I went to the beach in the morning. There were mostly families. Local and international, but not many chicas as far as I seen. Met there a local dude Alehandro who promised me to provide any chica I want. I said, I want a young and slim chica. He said "no problema" and get another dude who motoponcho-ed us to a casa a few blocks away from the beach. The casa was behind a gate and had a pool and around 20 girls there. At first, I was thinking that out of twenty girls, there is always a few I can choose from, but the choice turned out to be hard. All of them were sub-5's and none was good looking. I chose one that had a pretty smile but later I found that her body was not as good as I would like. Therefore the sex was not so exciting. I paid 2000 peso for one hour and few hundreds more to motoponcho dudes to bring me and my chica to my hotel. Later, at night, after I had a nap, I went to Calle Duarte and found tons of chicas who are much better then the selection I have seen at the casa. I picked up one and brought to my hotel. I paid 2000 again but this time the body was perfect. Firm and in a good shape. See the pictures. The bottom line: when in Boca Chica, never deal with any local brokers and never go to casas. Just wait until after dark when Duarte gets full of chicas at ever corner tons of them, spot the one you like and just say something friendly. Make sure to settle the price before you take her to your hotel but never pay upfront.
Charles Pooter
11-27-15, 17:47
... when in Boca Chica, never deal with any local brokersThat applies everywhere in the DR, not just BC.
All of them were sub-5's and none was good looking.
It may not be that they are scamming you. Most Dominican males actually find these blubbery gargoyles attractive.
Just finished my first day in BC. First, I went to the beach in the morning. There were mostly families. Local and international, but not many chicas as far as I seen. Met there a local dude Alehandro who promised me to provide any chica I want. I said, I want a young and slim chica. He said "no problema" and get another dude who motoponcho-ed us to a casa a few blocks away from the beach. The casa was behind a gate and had a pool and around 20 girls there. At first, I was thinking that out of twenty girls, there is always a few I can choose from, but the choice turned out to be hard. All of them were sub-5's and none was good looking. I chose one that had a pretty smile but later I found that her body was not as good as I would like. Therefore the sex was not so exciting. I paid 2000 peso for one hour and few hundreds more to motoponcho dudes to bring me and my chica to my hotel.Some time spent reading the forum could have saved you that mistake. At least it was a reasonably inexpensive lesson. They could have just as easily taken you somewhere and cleaned you out.
There are probably a few guys around who can get you quality chicas, but you're always going to pay more than she's worth and you'll be paying someone else just for the opportunity to overpay.
Later, at night, after I had a nap, I went to Calle Duarte and found tons of chicas who are much better then the selection I have seen at the casa. I picked up one and brought to my hotel. I paid 2000 again but this time the body was perfect. Firm and in a good shape. See the pictures. The bottom line: when in Boca Chica, never deal with any local brokers and never go to casas. Just wait until after dark when Duarte gets full of chicas at ever corner tons of them, spot the one you like and just say something friendly. Make sure to settle the price before you take her to your hotel but never pay upfront.Good advice.
RIG Hotel Plaza Venecia turned out to be an excellent choice to stay. It is located right on the Duarte where the most of action takes place after dark. The hotel has two buildings. The one with curved red stairs (see the picture with which the hotel advertises) is much better. It has huge lobby but the actual reception is located in another building. Residents have keys and security code so you can take as many chicas as you want without anybody even ask or look. It has large clean rooms with high ceilings, everything what is needed, balcony facing the corner of park and Calle Duarte. This is where, from my balcony, I can see chicas arrive and depart on motoponchos with / without clients every few minutes. Yet it is very quite building which is amazing considering how busy the street is. The hotel service quality is average for DR meaning that for every problem you have to remind the manager at least once to get it fixed. Yet the manager. Kelly. Is English speaking dude and quite friendly. For the $50 per night, it is a good deal indeed. It is just one minute walk from the beach but the street (like most in BC) is filthy and smelly. So sad, as the ocean made there a beautiful lagoon but people living there spoiled the natural beauty.
As of myself, I fucked two chicas today with 3 hours in between. Both were picked up from Duarte and both appeared to be much better looking when they were dressed (to impress) on the street. Once undressed, the flaws became visible even though they both were around 22-25 year old. Also, I learned to say No as chicas constantly try to drain your money (asking for drinks, food, etc.) They prefer 2000 or 2500 for their service but can agree on 1500 if you stay firm. However money is not a big issue for me (at least in this range). I just wish to find more of 7-8 type of girls but I guess Boca Chica is not the place for those. Will go to SD tomorrow. Wish me luck.
One problem with BC is that it is really a small town: on my second day, it seems like all Calle Duarte chicas know where do I stay and whom of them I already fucked. Not that I make a big deal out of this but in a big city where I used to live I enjoy more privacy on this matter. Another reason not to spend more then a couple of days in BC.
Correction to my previous post on the Rig Hotel Venecia Mall. The name of the cool English speaking manager is Larry (not Kelly).
Looks like a Nice, Firm and Dark body. Texture must be rich too.Yes, unbelievably firm texture indeed. Such texture only comes naturally in some girls who get right genes. This is the best body I had so far on this trip. She gave me phone number and she is from Santo-Domingo where I am currently staying anyway, so I probably fuck her again before boarding my plane departing to the sex prison.
One problem with BC is that it is really a small town: on my second day, it seems like all Calle Duarte chicas know where do I stay and whom of them I already fucked. Not that I make a big deal out of this but in a big city where I used to live I enjoy more privacy on this matter. Another reason not to spend more then a couple of days in BC.
Correction to my previous post on the Rig Hotel Venecia Mall. The name of the cool English speaking manager is Larry (not Kelly).Boca's that way almost everything happens in a 3 block area on Duarte.
I saw the hotel you stayed at on the Net. I liked what I saw and I went by the place to take a look about 4 times and no one was ever there. How did you get in touch with these people?
Boca's that way almost everything happens in a 3 block area on Duarte.
I saw the hotel you stayed at on the Net. I liked what I saw and I went by the place to take a look about 4 times and no one was ever there. How did you get in touch with these people?This corner building with red stairs has only 4 king bed rooms on the second floor. Therefore I barely seen and heard my neighbors. It has vast empty space on the first floor that has no furniture. Very strange indeed but I found it a hidden treasure and perfect for mongering. The office / receptionist is around the corner if you go down to beach about a hundred feet and then turn left. You may want to ask Larry. The manager. To show you the place.
I'm having a very nice time in Boca Chica. It's holiday season and there are plenty single mothers that need support. Here I feed my chocolate fetish. These Haitians chicas with these sexy body are killing me. I will make up on my Blanca when I get to Sosua tomorrow. I had ultimate GFE yesterday and I just knocked off a 18 age old fresh on the block. I caught the Venezuelan selling 20 milligram cialis pills for a dollar. I had to buy 6. I don't even use cialis but it was just a sweet deal. Speaking of sweet deals I haven't paid over 1500 pesos on any of the last for chicas. I'm going to rest up for an hour and hit the block about 2:30. Its stripper night in the Batey.
I'm having a very nice time in Boca Chica. It's holiday season and there are plenty single mothers that need support. Here I feed my chocolate fetish. These Haitians chicas with these sexy body are killing me. I will make up on my Blanca when I get to Sosua tomorrow. I had ultimate GFE yesterday and I just knocked off a 18 age old fresh on the block. I caught the Venezuelan selling 20 milligram cialis pills for a dollar. I had to buy 6. I don't even use cialis but it was just a sweet deal. Speaking of sweet deals I haven't paid over 1500 pesos on any of the last for chicas. I'm going to rest up for an hour and hit the block about 2:30. Its stripper night in the Batey.Hi GrownMan1. I have to ask how was stripper night at Batey? I am considering a return to BC and I am wondering if this is a regular event there. Thanks Sailor02.
Hi GrownMan1. I have to ask how was stripper night at Batey? I am considering a return to BC and I am wondering if this is a regular event there. Thanks Sailor02.It's supposed to be every Wednesday night. It happens late at night and they have both male and female strippers. I left before the action so I can't say how it went down last Wednesday.
Ok I'm in Boca Chica and I call up my special favorite The Gun. Fat ass, slender waist, big breasts, a beautiful fat camel, no kids; and she didn't drink or smoke. Yes young and fresh. She lays in the room and watch television while I roam the streets. I hadn't dealt with her in a year. She was going to be a holiday treat. We have been talking a little bit on Facebook however; her Spanish is so terrible we can't communicate. For example," Ague ora meya ma amor te toy esperado guiero aser el amor con tigo bien rico". This is her most understandable sentence. To make a long story short she shows up about 7 months pregnant. Gave the story that she got really drunk and had sex with someone. She doesn't even drink. At least during the time I knew her. She was strictly soda orange juice. No one gets drunk off presidentes. My man sitting next to me said I bet you $200 he doesn't know where the father is. He was correct she pretended like it was just an incident. You know I asked her why didn't she told me she was pregnant. She gave me some sob story like she didn't talk to me enough to tell me. Pregnant pussy is excellent when you're in the mood for it or it's your MO. I set her down, we ate, then I gave her 500 pesos and told her I will see her tomorrow. My Guadalupe partner told me if you were a Dominican; you would have left her standing there. She said she had planned to stay the night with me.
My second Cupid girl on my last trip showed up 3 months pregnant and in love with me. It was a great excuse to kick her to the curb. This is her third child. Her sister who has shared my bed had an abortion last March, not mine. She has 2 kids and is only 25. It takes a lot of heart to show up 7 months pregnant. That had to be a jaw dropper.
Ok I'm in Boca Chica and I call up my special favorite The Gun. Fat ass, slender waist, big breasts, a beautiful fat camel, no kids; and she didn't drink or smoke. Yes young and fresh. She lays in the room and watch television while I roam the streets. I hadn't dealt with her in a year. She was going to be a holiday treat. We have been talking a little bit on Facebook however; her Spanish is so terrible we can't communicate. For example," Ague ora meya ma amor te toy esperado guiero aser el amor con tigo bien rico". This is her most understandable sentence. To make a long story short she shows up about 7 months pregnant. Gave the story that she got really drunk and had sex with someone. She doesn't even drink. At least during the time I knew her. She was strictly soda orange juice. No one gets drunk off presidentes. My man sitting next to me said I bet you $200 he doesn't know where the father is. He was correct she pretended like it was just an incident. You know I asked her why didn't she told me she was pregnant. She gave me some sob story like she didn't talk to me enough to tell me. Pregnant pussy is excellent when you're in the mood for it or it's your MO. I set her down, we ate, then I gave her 500 pesos and told her I will see her tomorrow. My Guadalupe partner told me if you were a Dominican; you would have left her standing there. She said she had planned to stay the night with me.
My second Cupid girl on my last trip showed up 3 months pregnant and in love with me. It was a great excuse to kick her to the curb. This is her third child. Her sister who has shared my bed had an abortion last March, not mine. She has 2 kids and is only 25. It takes a lot of heart to show up 7 months pregnant. That had to be a jaw dropper.3 months pregnant I would have done her. 25 with two kids is damn good for a Dominican. I don't understand the philosophy in thinking that I would accept that situation. Her nice big young sexy breasts are dropping. No more six pack to watch contract as she rides me. No more putting those legs on the ceiling. Her pussy probably still smells like baby oil. However this time it really might be baby oil.
In fact I did several times. Did not have to worry about her getting pregnant by me. No holds barred.
3 months pregnant I would have done her. 25 with two kids is damn good for a Dominican. I don't understand the philosophy in thinking that I would accept that situation. Her nice big young sexy breasts are dropping. No more six pack to watch contract as she rides me. No more putting those legs on the ceiling. Her pussy probably still smells like baby oil. However this time it really might be baby oil.
Can someone please talk me out of eating this pussy.
Can someone please talk me out of eating this pussy.Damn too late. Gee thanks guys!
Damn too late. Gee thanks guys!Are you eating pussy and typing on the phone at the same time LOL. If it's the girl you sent the picture of, please focus bro. She deserves your complete attention. Time for you to make some memories for the old folks home with her. She's a winner bro.
Damn too late. Gee thanks guys!Always remember, we are always here for you.
If I was there, I would have been head first in just to help you out.
Always remember, we are always here for you.
If I was there, I would have been head first in just to help you out.Mr. E warn me about you. You would have talked me out of eating her pussy and into sticking my tongue up her ass. Jajaja.
Can someone please talk me out of eating this pussy.Must be one very appetizing pussy, do you have a photo to share, or will it just be like looking at a big Bush, or perhaps a Brillo pad?
Must be one very appetizing pussy, do you have a photo to share, or will it just be like looking at a big Bush, or perhaps a Brillo pad?Have you ever seen buckwheat. She looks like his 19 yr ole sister with lipstick, titties, pearly white teeth and a nice round frame. She wore her hair naturally. She's seen all the hair I had laid on the other bed and never at to open a package. I'm contemplating now whether I should put her picture on the Internet. I'm subject to entice some chocolate lovers to make a special trip. Give me two..no 4 ..no 10 more rounds with her and I may share that information . I do have some pics. If you knew me or knew of me: you would take one look at her and say Damn she is chocolate! That's Grownman's style. To my surprise she was Dominican. Totally. The best sex I ever had with a condom. Yeah I know why I eat the pussy then put on a condom. Because I might eat a baby, but I'm not going to make one.
Have you ever seen buckwheat. She looks like his 19 yr ole sister with lipstick, titties, pearly white teeth and a nice round frame. She wore her hair naturally. She's seen all the hair I had laid on the other bed and never at to open a package. I'm contemplating now whether I should put her picture on the Internet. I'm subject to entice some chocolate lovers to make a special trip. Give me two..no 4 ..no 10 more rounds with her and I may share that information . I do have some pics. If you knew me or knew of me: you would take one look at her and say Damn she is chocolate! That's Grownman's style. To my surprise she was Dominican. Totally. The best sex I ever had with a condom. Yeah I know why I eat the pussy then put on a condom. Because I might eat a baby, but I'm not going to make one.Dammit Grownman I'm not sure if anyone would want to see a picture of Buckwheats sister so probably not a good idea to post it unless you just have a shot of her snatch with some of those extensions you sell. Sounds like she must be really tight and wet and that's what really matters at the end of the day at least for me.
I was in Boca Chica last week and fortunately I did not run into my former wacko nymph Chica there and pretty much hung with a DC dating site girl. The town seems a little cleaned up since my last visit, less touts and cleaner streets. I may have to upgrade the place from the armpit of the DR to something else!
BrasilSoccer0
01-31-16, 06:00
Eventhough I washed my hands from the DR, I forgot to five credit to the gracious landlord lady where I rented my apt. While living in guayecanes, a s,all village between bocachica and Juan dolio.
She owns a no thrills apt building and rents to boh locals and tourists who stay there for at leat a month and beyond.
I was allowed and never questioned about bringing girls back. Complete freedom, independence and safe. Only xold water but that's all you really need in that hot climate.
Anyone interested just pm me for contact. She is on whatsapp.
The BCBU has decided for now on when you want to ride a motor scooter its 50 pesos. However if you have someone with you its a hundred pesos. The guy I've been using for a long time tried this on me. I told him before I pay one person 100 pesos I would get two motor scooters for 50 each and ride comfortably. Then we walked away after me telling him I guess I'll be looking for a new guy. Long live the union.
Charles Pooter
02-03-16, 19:22
I told him before I pay one person 100 pesos I would get two motor scooters for 50 each and ride comfortably.Has been double for two adults in Puerto Plata for the past ten years, at least. And like you, I take two motos if available. But the standard price is 30 pesos in Pto Pta. Was 25, and I still give 25 for very short trips.
Don't know how they charge for two in Sosua but they usually stiff me 50 for a solo ride. Everything is more expensive in Sosua.
Mom and james open up a Jamaican restaurant here in Boca Chica. James has been here for 3 years and has never been to Sosua. He prides himself in offering good Jamaican cuisine. I ate there yesterday and he was complaining about every time he turns around someone has their hand out. Not just him. The Italian guy that owns a business also complained. It's in my top 10 don't do things in the DR. Never start a business with an overhead here in the DR. This country is too corrupt to run a legitimate business. James said there's a guy going around that you can pay and he handles all your business. At first he was apprehensive about dealing with the guy but now he understands.
Mom and james open up a Jamaican restaurant here in Boca Chica. James has been here for 3 years and has never been to Sosua. He prides himself in offering good Jamaican cuisine. I ate there yesterday and he was complaining about every time he turns around someone has their hand out. Not just him. The Italian guy that owns a business also complained. It's in my top 10 don't do things in the DR. Never start a business with an overhead here in the DR. This country is too corrupt to run a legitimate business. James said there's a guy going around that you can pay and he handles all your business. At first he was apprehensive about dealing with the guy but now he understands.OK, so now we know your views on corruption in the Dominican Republic. And one of the items on your list of things not to do in the DR. But how about giving us something that is useful. Like: suggestions on items that you tried that you liked, menu prices and the quality of the food.
OK, so now we know your views on corruption in the Dominican Republic. And one of the items on your list of things not to do in the DR. But how about giving us something that is useful. Like: suggestions on items that you tried that you liked, menu prices and the quality of the food.Nah I don't talk about that shit. If you were Jamaican, like their cuisine, or wanted to know about the DR business dealings this would be very useful info. .
JesseJames
02-12-16, 09:57
Mom and james open up a Jamaican restaurant here in Boca Chica. James has been here for 3 years and has never been to Sosua. He prides himself in offering good Jamaican cuisine. I ate there yesterday and he was complaining about every time he turns around someone has their hand out. Not just him. The Italian guy that owns a business also complained. It's in my top 10 don't do things in the DR. Never start a business with an overhead here in the DR. This country is too corrupt to run a legitimate business. James said there's a guy going around that you can pay and he handles all your business. At first he was apprehensive about dealing with the guy but now he understands.Does the guy pay off the health inspector so he can serve filthy cockroach food?
Does the guy pay off the health inspector so he can serve filthy cockroach food?LOL In the DR Health Inspector jajajajaja. That's like having a screw driver in the middle of the ocean. The guy handles the corrupt snakes who come at the business owner extorting money. He does this for a fee. I guess he knows who to pay and who to cut out. I understand and operate a little like this when I am there. If you give a street cop a "donation" because they pulled you over for no reason saying they are "hungry". You will be giving a lot of donation almost ever time you see them. More street cop will get in on the action and you will be targeted. But if you go to the Shift supervisor and get a rapport, his number, and maybe non solicit donation. When ever the street cops see you are connected they leave you alone and the word gets out. To be honest as trashy as boca chica is I don't see many cockroach.
JesseJames
02-12-16, 16:39
LOL In the DR Health Inspector jajajajaja. That's like having a screw driver in the middle of the ocean. The guy handles the corrupt snakes who come at the business owner extorting money. He does this for a fee. I guess he knows who to pay and who to cut out. I understand and operate a little like this when I am there. If you give a street cop a "donation" because they pulled you over for no reason saying they are "hungry". You will be giving a lot of donation almost ever time you see them. More street cop will get in on the action and you will be targeted. But if you go to the Shift supervisor and get a rapport, his number, and maybe non solicit donation. When ever the street cops see you are connected they leave you alone and the word gets out. To be honest as trashy as boca chica is I don't see many cockroach.Okay, I understand. I wish one was around when I got mugged.
Wapau Slayer
02-15-16, 13:37
Got a room at Hotel Madjera 45 bucks a / see wifi hot water during day only that's bullshit, went on the strip and I always sit at the corner in front of route 77 bar, that's were all the motoconchos drop the girls off so you can catch them fresh. Sat around for a couple of hrs and saw maybe 2 girls that were 8's,nothing incredible, then these two stopped to talk to my friend, I was not part of the conversation yet neither got my attention, so then one starts talking to me but it wasn't all that maybe a 7 it was about 11 pm she said 2000 I said 1000 and we go, she replied OK. In to the room gave her a towel and even though she said she just took one I told her to take one. I like my girls clean and smelling good. She came out of the shower all 100 lbs 21 yr old nice round ass, laid in bed and she went at a BBBJ for ever I didn't mind. Then she laid down and that pussy was the smallest perfect shaped, so I couldn't help to ask if she wanted me to eat it, she replied I only like it if you know how to do it, well at 48 yrs old I ate plenty of pussy so I have some experience jaja. 20 minutes later after she came twice she said vamos a raspar which means lets fuck. BTW we had a conversation while doing the deal before the hotel that she said she was going to beat my cock to death which I replied my cock will beat your pussy like it has never been beat, so she smiled and said lets put them to fight and see which one wins. So started with her on top, boy could she snap those hips, then she did reverse cowboy arching her back with her hands on my chest waka waka waka for ten minutes then it was my turn. I had a buzz so I pounded that pussy to death using baby oil to get good slide, she was saying ya papi ya papi no puedo mas dame la leche, she couldn't take the pounding I had been about 20 min of solid pounding, so I pounded harder and harder then she said no mas I replied ya casi mami then pulled the rubber of and blasted all on her tits which one of them had the longest nipple I have seen. I gave her 200 pesos extra for the long BBBJ and good fuck and service, then as we are walking out she had laid her purse on the desk by the door, well my friend had left his cell phone on the desk which I didn't see because she sat her purse on top of it. As we were exiting the room she grabbed my friends phone while she picked up her purse, sneaky little working girl. So guys beware at all times. Second night out sat at the wall again even though it was Saturday night the action was slow then an 8 maybe 9 comes up to the colmado across the pizza joint so I approach her and said come and talk I'm sitting right over there. She walked over and I said what's the deal, she replied 2000 I said what she said she works at Bavaro and Punta Cana, so I asked what are you doing here? She replied 2000 and we go she was the best I had seen so I said 1500 and we go but some old man at a table got her attention she said hang on I said ok, the old man must of offered her more money because off she went. Sat around and there was a hatian bubble but I had seen earlier, she stopped to talk I said 1000 she said lets go. Left to the hotel thru the lobby into the elevator and I pulled that skirt up as soon as the elevator door closed what an ass rock hard and bubbled send her to the shower, comes out BBBJ good experience blowing 20 yrs old she got on top rode the horse for a while then doggy pounding her screams were oi oi oi I guess I fuck the French out of her. I said let me take a picture of your ass and she replied 100 pesos and I know 100 pesos is nothing but 2 bucks so I send her packing. Sosua tomorrow after a date with a non pro in Rio San Juan. Will report in a couple of days, safe fucking guys. Sosua wins.
I said let me take a picture of your ass and she replied 100 pesos and I know 100 pesos is nothing but 2 bucks so I send her packing. Sosua tomorrow after a date with a non pro in Rio San Juan. Will report in a couple of days, safe fucking guys. Sosua wins.Nice new refreshing report. I hang out at the Haitian restaurant right beside route 77. I often wonder about those Biker Boyz. They play the best music on the block. Never ate there but they have decent pool tables. They charged me $40 for my room so you did do bad. Route 77 is a Haitian accepted zone. They hang out in large numbers there. You must have been into chocolate that night.
Wapau Slayer
02-21-16, 16:05
After visiting Samana left about 1030 am got into Boca Chica 1215 pm got a room at Aparthotel Azzurra 35 dollars a / see 2 beds, took a ride to the capital to drop of a friend that had been traveling with us, thru downtown and over to the west side of the city, got lunch and peeled back to Boca where I had set up a dinner date with a semi pro that works at the boathouse as a massage girl that I been wanting to hook up with since last April. I didn't think I would stand a chance since she saw me with 6 different girls in the 10 days that I stayed at the boat house but I thought why not throw a bait out. So I did even though I was with my regular from SD she gave her number. Called her but she gave me the excuse that she had a headache so I replied cool I will see you at work in the am. 5 pm I showered and was reading on the computer when my fried sees a bubble butt walking and says look, I replied that's the bubble from 6 days ago so I went pssss and she looked up and I waved she seemed lost and then she recognized me and jumped for joy she saw 1000 jaja. She happily ran to the lobby door were the guy in charge stepped out, looked up and I waved to him that it was ok that she could come up. Up the stairs she comes mi amor mi amor. She was wearing blue shorts that made that ass look irresistible, she asked quieres freaky freaky? I replied not right now I just got out of the shower and going to relax for awhile but your welcome to hang. She hung out and couldn't help to stroke it and BBBJ. After 15 min I came on her tits and told her that later we get freaky. She asked for 100 pesos for pica pollo, gave her 200 and happy she went asked if I was going to be later at my corner I said yes. Went down for a bottle with my friend at the Colmado across the pizza joint sat down made us some cubalibre and after an hour ordered some pizza. Bubble Butt spots me at the colmado and asked if I was ready to go I said waiting on pizza so about an HR. She decides to hang with us at the corner after dinner for more self made drinks and then away to get freaky. Sent her to the farmacia 50 pesos for some rubbers then up stairs we went. In the room I told I wanted some pics of that ass she no face I replied, claro que no mami. Got some bubble ass shots money now was never mentioned for pics. BBBJ and 15 min later Hit that pussy every way to the point of that same oi oi oi papi, that french started coming out. 1000 pesos later both parties happy night night. Up in the AM meet with the massage girl, got to the boat house talked to her quickly and told her I would be right back. Whattsapp her so her co workers couldn't hear what I was asking and asked if she would join me for breakfast, but she said she didn't feel comfortable so the seed has been planted and next month should sprout. Some want to be pros but under the table! Jaja. Will try to load pics couldn't last report.
Mom and james open up a Jamaican restaurant here in Boca Chica. James has been here for 3 years and has never been to Sosua. He prides himself in offering good Jamaican cuisine. I ate there yesterday and he was complaining about every time he turns around someone has their hand out. Not just him. The Italian guy that owns a business also complained. It's in my top 10 don't do things in the DR. Never start a business with an overhead here in the DR. This country is too corrupt to run a legitimate business. James said there's a guy going around that you can pay and he handles all your business. At first he was apprehensive about dealing with the guy but now he understands.Well, I guess the Jamaican cuisine was not good enough. They opened around the 22 sd of January and when I returned from NY, February 21st it had gone out of business. Quality of food aside, it is a lousy place for a restaurant, even if only a short block from the Duarte. Too dark, no place fpr chairs outside and bad odors resulting from people relieving themselves around the area. Second joint to fail in the same venue in 16 months.
MoltiSanti01
03-02-16, 01:46
Went to DR for 1 day. Long story short girl #1 looked amazing but she was okay. Girl #2 was pretty lousy. Girl #3 stole $60 from me rookie mistake but I had learned my lesson.
I will go back again once I step my game up with learning Spanish.
Went to DR for 1 day. Long story short girl #1 looked amazing but she was okay. Girl #2 was pretty lousy. Girl #3 stole $60 from me rookie mistake but I had learned my lesson.
I will go back again once I step my game up with learning Spanish.Way to man up rookie! I also doubt you will slip again.
Well, I guess the Jamaican cuisine was not good enough. They opened around the 22 sd of January and when I returned from NY, February 21st it had gone out of business. Quality of food aside, it is a lousy place for a restaurant, even if only a short block from the Duarte. Too dark, no place fpr chairs outside and bad odors resulting from people relieving themselves around the area. Second joint to fail in the same venue in 16 months.I just talked with my folks. James is still open. He starts about 2:30 or so.
Warthog2837
04-19-16, 21:15
I was reading TripAdvisor reviews of the Hamaca resort, and NE review said that there are obvious working girls on the premises. Can anyone verify this? Is the Hamaca guest friendly?
I'm sitting at "Village on the beach" in Boca Chica at 10 pm. The Dominican waitress at the restaurant across the street called over one of the Boca Chica crack heads and gave her something in a napkin. She grabs it and says thanks as she walks 50 feet and is in front of me as I sip my Cuba libre in the street.
Fidelito who is the brown dog in Boca Chica that is on the beach all day running all the other dogs off, and on the strip at night barking at the cops as if he is causing them out. Well the crack head shares her food with Fidelito and the other dog and keeps a bite for herself.
Boca Chica is seedy and underhanded but it's good to see love amongst the homeless.
Tempoecorto
05-13-16, 02:22
Boca Chica is seedy and underhanded but it's good to see love among the homeless.Lovely story of redemption.
Thank you.
From DR1 24 May 2016.
In around three months, much of the Dominican Armada (Navy) will begin to move to its new headquarters in Boca Chica.
The 27 Febrero Naval Base has been the headquarters of the Armada for more than 30 years but it will be moving to a new base comprised of four five-floor buildings. It will house the office of the Commander General and all of the higher ranks, and will include dining areas and dormitories, as well as a hospital that will also serve the local community.
There will be a training center, and the whole base will cover an area of 525,000 square meters. According to reports, the new installations will also provide a boost for the local community as apartments for the naval staff members living off base will be built nearby, and a commercial center and bank branches will be opening.
http://www.diariolibre.com/noticias/politica/en-90-dias-empezara-la-mudanza-de-la-base-naval-EC3765006
Boca Chica is on the cum up!
Casa, on the street before Villa Capri. Two blocks down in the direction of the beach. 2000 pesos for one hour. Includes the Chica and the room. My boy reported good service with an eight. I saw her and she had a banging body. Did not need to partake as I had a "qualitatively different" experience meeting me at the VC. YMMV.
Casa, on the street before Villa Capri. Two blocks down in the direction of the beach. 2000 pesos for one hour. Includes the Chica and the room. My boy reported good service with an eight. I saw her and she had a banging body. Did not need to partake as I had a "qualitatively different" experience meeting me at the VC. YMMV.The Latin Quarters as it's called now has been around for a while. The owner has did a lot of renovations. Your friend got a good deal 2000 pesos for 1 hour. Their names are 3000 pesos for 2 hours and 4000 pesos all night. They have a few Venezuelans working there. They can be Shady sometimes. I've seen them charge guys as high as a hundred and fifty.
The Latin Quarters as it's called now has been around for a while. The owner has did a lot of renovations. Your friend got a good deal 2000 pesos for 1 hour. Their names are 3000 pesos for 2 hours and 4000 pesos all night. They have a few Venezuelans working there. They can be Shady sometimes. I've seen them charge guys as high as a hundred and fifty.Mr. Grownman,
You are spot on. But my friend got a great deal because that's the deal "for those in the know". I haggled the guy down from 3000/ hour to 2500/ hour to the final number of 2000/ hour by threatening to leave and taking my buddy with me. And even after that he tried to take my buddy to the room with the girl and get me to pay. I saw that scam coming like a hanging curve ball. I told him "he was doing business with my buddy not me. But that I lived here and if there was a problem". And he finished my sentence by saying "I know, you will be back to see me". I said "Es correcto". Correct Spanish o no. He understood. And my buddy had a great time. My buddy felt the quality of the chicas were better in The Latin Quarters than the street chicas of BC. The next day my buddy was back on the strip talking to some people. And they told him the same thing you said. That they hit tourists up for 3000 - 6000 pesos.
I'm glad I passed, as my "qualitatively different" chica showed up with food for us to share and then proceed to share herself with me all night. Of course being the gentlemen I am I returned the favor. We were having so much fun together that the next day we hit the beach in Juan Dolio until mid afternoon. When I dropped her off I asked if she needed anything. She said "Of course I do I'm poor". I asked what she needed. She said, "Whatever you are willing to give me is fine". And so I gave. And indeed it was.
Top Floor suite. Modern appliances in the kitchen with cookware, dishes and silverware. Air conditioner and television in living room and bedroom. Modern stylish fixtures in the bathroom. Two balconies. Gran Jefe style living. Shoutout goes to Grownman for the recommendation.
Gentlemen,
I have not seen any posts mention Cabanas in Boca Chica, does anyone know if there are Cabanas in Boca Chica.
Gentlemen,
I have not seen any posts mention Cabanas in Boca Chica, does anyone know if there are Cabanas in Boca Chica.There is at least one cabana in BC. You'll probably have to search back quite a ways to find a review, about 2 years I think. I can't tell you anything about it, I just remember reading the review.
There's an app called Cabaas RD that might be helpful to you.
There is at least one cabana in BC. You'll probably have to search back quite a ways to find a review, about 2 years I think. I can't tell you anything about it, I just remember reading the review.
There's an app called Cabaas RD that might be helpful to you.The only ones that I know off are located in the road to Masiel past the BC cemetery and the Mets farm, about 6 Km from the traffic light on the left side of the road. It is a Spartan venue with good AC but little more. You even have to request a pillow. Price is about 500. Can't remember the name right now.
Gentlemen,
I have not seen any posts mention Cabanas in Boca Chica, does anyone know if there are Cabanas in Boca Chica.In Boca Chica there's a hotel called gusto. Right next to Gusto there is a place with stairs leading up. That is the local cabanas. It's right on the strip. People use it when they pull girls out of the Batey. It's clean enough to handle your business. Do not let any of the sharks or snakes show you where it's located. They will try to make a deal behind your back. Or rush you when you are in the room with a girl telling you your time is up whether you finish or not. Remember you gave them the money and let them make their negotiations for the room. Especially if they do all the talking for you. You can ask anyone where is Gusto the restaurant Hotel. It's right next to it facing the Batey. I think you can get it for about 500 pesos an hour.
Greetings gentlemen. I am returning to BC in August and was considering staying at the Calypso hotel. I would like to know from some of you who may have stayed there what are some of the better rooms for A / see, hot water, quietness etc. Is there anyone there who can take a reservation in English. Any help would be appreciated. I read previous report but this hotel seems a little far from the action. Any opinions welcome. Thanks Sailor.
Greetings gentlemen. I am returning to BC in August and was considering staying at the Calypso hotel. I would like to know from some of you who may have stayed there what are some of the better rooms for A / see, hot water, quietness etc. Is there anyone there who can take a reservation in English. Any help would be appreciated. I read previous report but this hotel seems a little far from the action. Any opinions welcome. Thanks Sailor.I Pmed you. You can also read the report a few blogs down.
Arrived here at about 3 am I called earlier to let Villa Capri know that I was checking in early. The owner is cool he says no problem. It will not charge me. Call Doc my number one distributor she brought me $500. Now I have spending money. Chill with her for the rest of the night she did a thing. Next day took her home came and killed my Thundercat. A session with her 3 times last time I was here. She never asked for anything and always very grateful. Gave her a thousand pesos and an outfit which shoes to match. She asked for another outfit because she couldn't decide which one she liked. With the smile I told her she's not the same now. Body still sexy but when they start asking instead of appreciating what you're giving me it's time to change. I told her we're still friends but I must keep her on time out now. I have to keep my repeats with a constant understanding, don't ask me for shit take what I give you and be happy or be switched. I gave her the other outfit told her I might as well because I'm not going to see her for a while. She tried to give him the outfit back to me. I told her to quit while we were ahead. She submitted and just stay quiet.
Everything in Boca is normal for Boca. Street hustlers which is pretty much everybody on the strip, always begging always looking for weakness. I put on my prison face and walk into their world. Later that night me and my homeboy Dre hit the Batey. Is definitely not sosua butt as a veteran mongler I can find some action. Rolling with Dre my homeboy for years but we're not in the same league. I pointed out a treat that I've been wanting to hit for a while. Can I talk to her in front of everyone. I sent him over I can see in his eyes he wants her just as bad as I did. There is no G code with him. If I see that my partner really wants a woman even if she's p4 p I backed up because there's so many others it so uncool to sweat his choice. But it's cool I know him I just play against him. After negotiating what my chocolate sweet on a good price I asked him to ride with her back to Villa Capri. He was going to call one of his regular he just negotiated with her. Dre had already made a deal with his regular and she was coming to his room in 30 minutes. As he was leaving with my treat to take her to my hotel room because I was going to be behind them. I seen this sexy Haitian with a fat ass walk on the scene. She seemed kind of new. He asked me to get that for him. No problem since you're taking my treat to the room for me. I pulled over to the side and gave her an interview. Nice fat ass slender waist body built for Destruction. She was new in the area of course here to make money. I went to get her number for my friend and notice she had one of those old cell phones. Not this the kind of chica I like. Might make a deal with her to buy one of my phones from me after she gets finished with my boy. She had a very high pitch voice. Half sexy half irritating. Very distinct. She had a Serena Williams ass. As I'm talking to her I'm like damn Dre always gets lucky when he's hanging with me. Man I wanted her for myself and wish I hadn't pointed her out. I told her my friend will be calling her in 20 minutes. I stayed on the Block another 15 minutes and thought to myself. If I know Dre like I do he's probably trying to fuck my treat. I go back to the hotel go to his room and sure enough they are playing on his cell phone and he had his shirt off. After observing them for a few minutes in his room I walked off, I pretending like I was upset. He came behind me 5 minutes later up to my room to explain the situation was a big mistake. Of course he waited 5 minutes after I left his room. See Dre has already dated 4 of our co-workers ex-girlfriends. That's something I would never do. I won't even look at someone I know ex-girlfriend. Not if me and that person established a friendship. I know these are prostitutes here in the Dr. But I'm bound by my code. I look at it like this if you and your friend we're fishing and he caught a nice 25 pound bass. Took a picture of it and threw it back in the water. Would you like to catch that same Bass. Every time he throws one back in the water you wait to read catch his. You're not skilled enough or smart enough to catch your own. I know all of these girls are interested in money. But some do have a little pride about themselves. The ones with a little pride or the ones I prefer. It's just me. Meanwhile my partner followed me to my room telling me he cannot give her three thousand pesos. I'm saying to myself Ninja you give all your girl's 3000 pesos unless I negotiate for you. I told him that's his problem. He told me he doesn't know the deal that she and I made. I told him it's none of his business what do she and I made. Notice he never said man I'm not going to have a session with her this is your pic. I knew in my heart that she was going to be a a good session however she's a regular on the Block. The new Haitian I like her Dre gave me my out. Had he any skills he would have known that Haitian was going to give him more than my chocolate treat. Call the Haitian back and she's told me to give her whatever I like. I told her I called her because I felt sorry that my friend so is there another girl. She seemed pretty nice and I decided to call her. She never even met Dre only seen him getting on the motor culture to leave. Dre is about 260. He's a big guy I know she wasn't looking forward to that. Besides she and I had did all the talking. She gave me 1 of the best session I've had in the last 30 chicas this year. She was perfect. Flexible, tight pussy, and willing to please. I even kissed her. Yes mr. International I kissed her ass. She suck my cock so well I had to kiss her to make her stop. I was so happy with Dre selfish ass because I was willing to pass her by. The only downside is now I'll never be able to hit that Chocolate treat. Oh well she doesn't have a G code.
Please forgive me this is my birthday weekend and I will do my reports under the influence. No hard drugs under 20 chicas and no homosexuals everything else is on.
There is no G code with him. I know these are prostitutes here in the Dr. But I'm bound by my code.Happy birthday GrownMan1! Your story reminds me of an episode of The Wire. Omar is in a jam. Eyewitness is lying on him about a murder. He's saying he's innocent. But Bunk isn't buying it. Then just as Bunk leaves the interview room, he appeals to Bunk's sense of decency and says: "A man got to have a code" - Omar Little.
Enjoy your time in the arena. Have a great one my man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCrKErEYwJE
Chris Long
07-03-16, 08:59
Tremendous problem with logistics.
I am in Boca Chica right now, its slow, very slow but there are still enough girls to make it worth while. In country for a month, the original plan was to spend three or four days in Boca and then head to Sosua but have been here for nearly two weeks. Hooked up with the little blond smirf (My nick name for her) bar tender at Piano bar and have not left yet because of her.
As I sit at the Piano bar every night waiting for her to get off work I am often the only customer there. There are still at least a dozen or more girls looking for customers despite there being few to none available, and I think to myself as I sit there every night, what a terrible problem there is with logistics, these girls are all hungry for any customer they can get, at the very same time in the states there are hundreds of thousands of guys laying in bed doing the hand jive who would gladly pay 1000 p to 2000 p to sleep with one of these girls, what a tremendous problem with logistics there is.
Remember pictures and videos posted here are fubu. I am still in country and don't need any of this getting back to me.
Chris
If you haven't learned anything yet amigo, keep this kind of information to yourself and on the back channels, or else you will see a repeat of Sosua follow you to your new haunts. Do you really want the Weekend Baller Crews saying "You know what, Gogo is right. Sosua is wack now. She definitely ain't what she used to be. Let's move the party to Boca Chica"?Boca Chica, hidden gem? As Mr. E says "What the what?" Boca Chica has long been on the map as Sosua's more colorful little sister. Google Boca Chica and you will find plenty of mainstream news stories about the the place. Mostly highlighting that is not a family destination. Hell the first site that comes up says: "In the evening, Boca Chica transforms itself into a town of party bars and prostitution. " Did I miss the memo about keeping Boca Chica a secret? Because Boca Chica is about as secret as Area 31 or the NSA.
Tremendous problem with logistics.
I am in Boca Chica right now, its slow, very slow but there are still enough girls to make it worth while. In country for a month, the original plan was to spend three or four days in Boca and then head to Sosua but have been here for nearly two weeks. Hooked up with the little blond smirf (My nick name for her) bar tender at Piano bar and have not left yet because of her.
As I sit at the Piano bar every night waiting for her to get off work I am often the only customer there. There are still at least a dozen or more girls looking for customers despite there being few to none available, and I think to myself as I sit there every night, what a terrible problem there is with logistics, these girls are all hungry for any customer they can get, at the very same time in the states there are hundreds of thousands of guys laying in bed doing the hand jive who would gladly pay 1000 p to 2000 p to sleep with one of these girls, what a tremendous problem with logistics there is.
Remember pictures and videos posted here are fubu. I am still in country and don't need any of this getting back to me.
ChrisNice Boca Chica trip report. I enjoyed reading it!
SavePros321
07-06-16, 17:13
Boca Chica, hidden gem? As Mr. E says "What the what?" Boca Chica has long been on the map as Sosua's more colorful little sister. Google Boca Chica and you will find plenty of mainstream news stories about the the place. Mostly highlighting that is not a family destination. Hell the first site that comes up says: "In the evening, Boca Chica transforms itself into a town of party bars and prostitution. " Did I miss the memo about keeping Boca Chica a secret? Because Boca Chica is about as secret as Area 31 or the NSA.Thanks for quoting my post, although you missed the main idea of it entirely:
In the end, Sosua is easy. Learning Spanish, traveling around the island and opening up to new experiences is hard.Basically, if there isn't much attention on Boca right now, don't go out of your way to promote it as the better alternative to Sosua. Let the lazy-asses languish in what they are familiar and comfortable with presently.
P.S.: Can a brother get a heads-up the next time you decide to thread-jack me? I would have never saw this had I not decided to pop into the Boca Chica forum on my lunch break, lmao!
For anyone interested, this original discussion SubCmdr quoted me from was thread-jacked from Mr. Gogo's forum if you'd like to read it in it's entirety.
Thanks for quoting my post, although you missed the main idea of it entirely:
Basically, if there isn't much attention on Boca right now, don't go out of your way to promote it as the better alternative to Sosua. Let the lazy-asses languish in what they are familiar and comfortable with presently.
P.S.: Can a brother get a heads-up the next time you decide to thread-jack me? I would have never saw this had I not decided to pop into the Boca Chica forum on my lunch break, lmao!
For anyone interested, this original discussion SubCmdr quoted me from was thread-jacked from Mr. Gogo's forum if you'd like to read it in it's entirety.Actually, I'm interested in promoting sexual tourism all over the island. Those who travel here to spend money on the island in that fashion most likely put more money directly into the economy where it helps the people as opposed to regular tourists who stay in resorts where very little of it reaches the local populace. I happen to like Boca Chica. I've made trip reports about Boca Chica. So your desire to keep a "secret" that's already out in the open is lost on me.
Anyone interested in reading your post simply has to click on "View original post". Thread-jacking? Is that a felony or misdemeanor? Either way I plead not-guilty!
Reporting from the strip; I've seen two Haitians that used to work in Sosua. I didn't remember them just played along as they seemed real excited to see me. I figured they were Grownmans girls who had seen me with him. Then they asked me why I wasn't in Sosua?
The strip is slow but it's early. Weather is nice but the cab driver said it rained earlier. When are they going to finish that overpass on the main Hwy? Damn.
As I lay here with my 6"3 Amazon Serena Williams look-like sleep on my should I can't help but reflex and smile.
I think the hardest thing about the DR is if you should go raw or not.
I was sitting on the strip in Boca Chica last night at village by the beach sipping my Cuba libre reflecting on how happy I was to just be the in the DR.
The strip was slow when I see an old friend John walk by. We chopped it up and John said" Let's go". I asked where because I don't like to be led around but John doesn't like to be pressed so I let it go.
We drive for 45 minutes and wind up at a club on the other side of SD. John asked me not to post the name. We walk in and it's slow but the club has an outside terrace that I didn't see till I went to the rest room. It was single chicas sitting at tables chilling so I strutted by hoping one girl would say something to give me an in. They all looked but the last table had three girls there and they smiled do I went for it.
I introduced myself and brought two big presidente beers. As I'm sizing them up they are sizzling me up. One girl at the table asked questions, another girl just stared? But the third girl was laid back and shy. I gravitated to the shy girl and leaned in occasionally to whisper something privately to boost her confidence. We were vibing. She had cornrows and was 6"3 and gorgeous.
We left and hit the hotel and showered and she turned into a sex maniac. I'm just happy to be in the DR and haven't gotten into pussy killer mode yet, so she got the best of me. Gogo is 0-1 so far. I awake with a boner and say now it's payback so I grabbed her and spit on my dick and went in. After two stokes my consciousness got to me and I pulled out and retrieved a condom. Passionate and giving but also tasted sweet I'm hooked. I will finish this report later.
Backtrack, I got my la Vega girl who is my new primary and I haven't thought about her once yet. La Vega is hitting me on what's up wanting to catch the bus to SD but I got unfinished biz with my Amazon, damn. I give my Amazon 2 k pesos and 300 pesos for a cab because I got to get my plan together. I hate leaving a girl under fucked but that's what happened.
Now I got to pivot from Serena Williams to la Vega but my Amazon will be on my mind because it's some good fucking there left to do. I still don't know what happened to John as the last time we saw each other was when I excused myself to go to the rest room.
Quick looks on Boca Chica; The white euro girls got no shame as they stroll with their Dominican studs.
Fine ass Haitian girl gave me a kiss with her black lipstick so now I'm walking around looking like a Zulu warrior with a black smear on the side of my face before I went to the bathroom and saw it.
Stopped at Carlos spit on the beach and had my fried fish with fries for 400 pesos them a small boat came up and everyone crowded around it to pick their fresh fish. Carlos got a fresh piece for 200 pesos and the girls in the walkway fried it up.
Damn these Venezuelan girls are fine.
I'm nursing a sore firearm I damaged kick boxing so I'm taking it easy here but pussy is everywhere.
Agua why sol is a great deal. Piano bar is still the warm up for El Batey. Bar Latino is the coolest spot in Boca with its red sofas, MMA on the television and smooth music of David Bowie, prince, Michael Jackson and the Depeche mode. Cute girls there also.
Fuck what anyone says, that Chinese spot in the middle of the strip has a great special of rice, two chicken legs and a bottle of water for 180 pesos. The only problem is the tours and the dogs come begging.
It feels good to not turn on the TV and see all the bullshit the American media force feeds up. I was so frustrated in America that my forearm was getting worse so I said " fuck it" and paid 290 usd to change my ticket and I'm getting better by the minute. Coming from a place where we have everything and are never happy to a place where they have nothing but find happiness in unity is refreshing.
Satire;.
The new sign when entering Boca Chica is "no more than three brothers together allowed here, no making it rain in Boca Chica, and no all white party parties dressed in tuxedos LOL."
Real talk, get your asses out of Sosua and make your own adventures and stop blaming other people because you put all your eggs in one basket.
Dominican politics; I'm sitting at a certain bar owned by a foreigner and this official dude sits down but orders nothing. He has his shirt bottomed to the top glasses and a badge hanging from his neck. He looks focused. A conversation with the owner starts but I'm not paying attention. Five white dudes walk up with three Dominicanas and two Haitians and the official dude stands up. Now I'm paying attention. The official dude stops the girls and an argument starts. The white dudes pull the official dude aside for a conversation as the bar owner looks pissed. They talk then low five with money exchanged but the official dude is about being official. He controls the situation as the other parties stand down. Eventually everyone enters the bar but the official dude stays seated outside whispering. They realize I'm pay on attention. That's why I say never open a business in the DR.
Now it's 11:40 pm not doing Batey but at piano bar. As soon as I sit down they on me like flies on shit. Not fucking tonight but I'm drinking these Cubalibre and I'm on vacation do we never know.
Great trip report Mr. GoGo. It is more of what we in all areas of this forum. I'm glad you are back to being a man in the arena. That brief foray into criticalness was not you.
Tempoecorto
07-18-16, 00:39
Funny and yet substantive. Enjoyed reading your reports from Boca Chica (question mark).
Things are unfolding and my groove is getting smoother. My Amazon texted me and said she was at El Batey with her two friends and I went there and we had a ball. Banged her that night and couldn't stop fucking her in the morning. We spooned and my dick slipped in, she was on my chest and licked my nipple and we fucked, I wanted my bed solo so we fucked before I kicked her out. Fucked her so much the pussy went dry and boring.
Had a long conversation with BQ Ribs about why Dominican women are so boring. He gives great advice and is good with SD logistics. My no 1 la Vega girl is completely undependable and I don't play that shit. Was going to leave Boca Chica and stay in SD so we could do the zoo and aquarium with her daughter but she disappeared on what's up. No problem she just saved me 300 dollars I would have spent on her and her daughter so I'm going with my San Pedro backup. Yo!! Revere I sent you a pm thinking I was coming to SD but no response. Either you don't know how to check your PM when they are highlighted or you don't give a fuck. Don't bother getting back to me now because I might not respond. Adios.
Hit piano bar last night and mostly the same regulars. Sometimes I think I should give one of those skanks a try to either prove they ain't shit or maybe they might surprise me. Had two cubalibres, listened to music, ignored the regular touts with maņana again and saw a gem creep in the shadows. She didn't speak to anyone and sat at the bar by the bathroom. For some reason I passed and paid my bill and went to bar Latinos. Bar Latinos is a great spot to intercept the girls leaving the strip going to el Batey. I see the shadows girl walking sola and intercept her. It was her first day there and she was from Santiago. Her name was Catherine. I told her I would be in el Batey in 30 minutes. I'm at bar Latinos as Felipe the owner is playing Otis Redding and Sting.
I walk to Batey on a mission for Catherine but she is not there as I scour the club like a criminal casing a spot.
I leave and go back to bar Latino and it's now 3 am and he is closing. He takes me to the after hour joint. More later. Thanks Tempo.
SavePros321
07-18-16, 22:13
My no 1 la Vega girl is completely undependable and I don't play that shit. Was going to leave Boca Chica and stay in SD so we could do the zoo and aquarium with her daughter but she disappeared on what's up. No problem she just saved me 300 dollars I would have spent on her and her daughter so I'm going with my San Pedro backup. Probably has a local novio or a foreign sponsor who wants to know her every move. Another good reason not to ever send these broads money and to only "pay as you go". One broad in Colombia tried to pull this on me by saying " but baby, I want to buy something nice to wear for you". I was like "but baby, you're going to be ass-naked 5 minutes after you arrive to my place! What do I care what you wear on the way over?"
If you send them bread ahead of your trip, then they are already fed and have no incentive to actually come and see you once you arrive. But this probably works for those guys sending her a monthly Western Union stipend. Those chicas know not to upset the gravy train coming from Papi Noel, LOL!
Probably has a local novio or a foreign sponsor who wants to know her every move. Another good reason not to ever send these broads money and to only "pay as you go". One broad in Colombia tried to pull this on me by saying " but baby, I want to buy something nice to wear for you". I was like "but baby, you're going to be ass-naked 5 minutes after you arrive to my place! What do I care what you wear on the way over?"
If you send them bread ahead of your trip, then they are already fed and have no incentive to actually come and see you once you arrive. But this probably works for those guys sending her a monthly Western Union stipend. Those chicas know not to upset the gravy train coming from Papi Noel, LOL!Yep, now she has popped up with a bunch of typical excuses; Baby I have no minutes on my phone for the Internet, my life here is very hard, I have no money to eat, my life here is very different from yours. I want to come now.
Nope. What she did was allow me rethink the time and money I was going to invest in her trip. Plus I been fucking and got other girls lined up.
La Vega is gorgeous, speaks three languages and is supposedly in college, and she wants me to believe she doesn't have food to eat. It's too many beautiful women in the DR that are available for me to be jumping through hoops and kissing ass.
Things are unfolding
I walk to Batey on a mission for Catherine but she is not there as I scour the club like a criminal casing a spot.
I leave and go back to bar Latino and it's now 3 am and he is closing. He takes me to the after hour joint. More later. Thanks Tempo.You MF you let the sleeper getaway. Here sleeper sleeper come here grown man has some pesos for you.
You MF you let the sleeper getaway. Here sleeper sleeper come here grown man has some pesos for you.Dog she didn't walk down the middle of the street she crept up the sideline. When she walked in piano bar she spoke to no one and no one spoke to her. She sat alone at the bar by the bathroom. The whole thing looked sneaky but I wasn't on it.
When she walked to Batey when I intercepted her again she walked the side line not in the street. She was trying to be low key. From Santiago, 30 yo, just arrived. You are right Grownman before I would have played it out. I think someone else snatched the new girl out of Batey very quickly. Gogo fucked up.
Dog she didn't walk down the middle of the street she crept up the sideline. When she walked in piano bar she spoke to no one and no one spoke to her. She sat alone at the bar by the bathroom. The whole thing looked sneaky but I wasn't on it.
When she walked to Batey when I intercepted her again she walked the side line not in the street. She was trying to be low key. From Santiago, 30 yo, just arrived. You are right Grownman before I would have played it out. I think someone else snatched the new girl out of Batey very quickly. Gogo fucked up.It sounds like she had I would rather be in your room than in these streets written all over her forehead. And When we're done just give me what you like I'm too shy to ask for money. If you want I can fuck all day stay until you're ready for me to leave. I don't want to be out there in the streets but I need the money. Can you please buy me something to eat first. The Chinese restaurant has good deals. I love those chicas! RAW. Ready And Willing. A beautiful 6 hour plus Novia. Newbies when you get tired of sports f* this is the next level hunting.
SavePros321
07-19-16, 03:58
You MF you let the sleeper getaway. Here sleeper sleeper come here grown man has some pesos for you.Yeah, I was going to bust Gogo for that one too, LOL. Sosua taught me that when you see a fresh one, grab her and say "lets go" and we can work out the details on the way to the room, hahaha!
Yeah, I was going to bust Gogo for that one too, LOL. Sosua taught me that when you see a fresh one, grab her and say "lets go" and we can work out the details on the way to the room, hahaha!Man,
Some Italian probably locked her down for a couple days because I'm on the strip now looking. He probably told her she is the one for him, took her to Juan Dolio beach and fed her lobster and dick later at the hotel. She will go back to Santiago with about 200 usd in her purse. Then he will show his boys his new girl and visit her in Santiago. Sound familiar fellas.
SavePros321
07-19-16, 04:32
Yep, now she has popped up with a bunch of typical excuses; Baby I have no minutes on my phone for the Internet, my life here is very hard, I have no money to eat, my life here is very different from yours.This was the one thing that turned me off from dealing with Dominicanas long distance-wise. These are the only chicks I have met that are quick to tell you all the problems in their lives the minute they meet you. It almost always came up during the second message exchange once you moved the conversation from DC to messaging (it was Skype for me a while back). I realize it is usually a tug at your heart strings to get you to open up your wallet, but I'm like "Damn, have you no shame?
The ones I would get were about "la luz" being cut off, needing to payback money borrowed from a relative, or money for school books. Oh, and of course "no hay comida". It's like they are saying "Papi, you don't want this pussy to stave to death before you get here, do you?" LMAO!
It's official now players. And I got to report it ASAP. A Chica just showed me a tattoo on her arm of " Western union ". That says it all. I still can't stop laughing.
This was the one thing that turned me off from dealing with Dominicanas long distance-wise. These are the only chicks I have met that are quick to tell you all the problems in their lives the minute they meet you. It almost always came up during the second message exchange once you moved the conversation from DC to messaging (it was Skype for me a while back). I realize it is usually a tug at your heart strings to get you to open up your wallet, but I'm like "Damn, have you no shame?
The ones I would get were about "la luz" being cut off, needing to payback money borrowed from a relative, or money for school books. Oh, and of course "no hay comida". It's like they are saying "Papi, you don't want this pussy to stave to death before you get here, do you?" LMAO!Add Filipinas to that list.
I hit Batey and stroll the strip shooing off the tramps. I decide to walk a side street for home and see a girl by the park arguing with the police. Something about a rambunctious chic that turns me on so I linger. She sees me and stops arguing as I walk to the side to get the chance for info. She says it's nothing and says she wants to go with me for 500 pesos. I know this is probably just a hustle to get to my crib and start some shit so I walk away with her saying "que pasa poppi, yo quiero, hablame ". I leave her and head up the hill as its now 2 am.
I walk up on a Colmado and it's a guy behind the grill and three girls. I walk over to look at the food but I have a side agenda. I know the girls are checking out the gringo in a white tee, Roche Nikes and jeans with a tennis / fishing hat on. It's a cheese burger and fries for 200 pesos. I'm still deciding and one of the cute girls says sit down. Now it's on. I sit down but this is a 200 pesos investment as I'm not hungry. One girl is fat and her brother is on the grill while the other two are sisters. The slim one is and black with perfect maroon nails drawing my attention plus she speaks English and is from Puerto plata but visiting relatives here. The sister is a little chunky but gorgeous. I eat half my hamburger and offer to buy them a big presidente. You will be surprised what a 150 pesos can do to chicas. Me and the slim girl girl with the pretty nails are vibing as I size up the situation. Is the guy behind the grill in play with these chicas? It becomes a wait game.
We drink the big beer as the guy behind the grill tells stories. I want to force my hand but I got nothing to do so I hang out. Everything is good and it's a party on the side street. If you haven't been part of a party on a side street at a Colmado in the DR then you haven't experienced the real thing. This is what they do.
I tell the girl I have a nice crib and she can watch TV and sleep and and air conditioning but she refused. She is a good girl.
I can't leave because I got to finish this or cock block. The grill guy eventually starts putting up the white plastic chairs as I cheer inside.
It's closing and it's happening but the good girl says she is going to her mothers with her sister. We exchange what's up numbers and I kiss the girls and head off.
As I'm walking the ten minutes to my crib three skanks proposition me but fuck that I'm not Tomjackin LOL.
Get to my crib at 3:30 am and what's up slim Chica whose name is Carmen. She hits me back. I beg her to come sleep with me but she declines. We plan a date got Tuesday.
My arm has stopped hurting and I've been walking a lot and eating good. Life is good.
This was the one thing that turned me off from dealing with Dominicanas long distance-wise. These are the only chicks I have met that are quick to tell you all the problems in their lives the minute they meet you. It almost always came up during the second message exchange once you moved the conversation from DC to messaging (it was Skype for me a while back). I realize it is usually a tug at your heart strings to get you to open up your wallet, but I'm like "Damn, have you no shame?
The ones I would get were about "la luz" being cut off, needing to payback money borrowed from a relative, or money for school books. Oh, and of course "no hay comida". It's like they are saying "Papi, you don't want this pussy to stave to death before you get here, do you?" LMAO!When you lead with money on the short term what else do you expect? Besides they also have a long list of other less savvy guys that will open up their wallet for them. So it's not really a problem for them if you keep your wallet closed. For them it's like the "hail Mary" pass in football. Nothing ventured; Nothing gained.
I haven't found one chica that told me calamity was about to befall them actually have anything bad happen to them when I told them no and just continued on about my business. The chicas were surviving before you arrived. They will continue to survive afterwards.
This was the one thing that turned me off from dealing with Dominicanas long distance-wise. These are the only chicks I have met that are quick to tell you all the problems in their lives the minute they meet you. It almost always came up during the second message exchange once you moved the conversation from DC to messaging (it was Skype for me a while back). I realize it is usually a tug at your heart strings to get you to open up your wallet, but I'm like "Damn, have you no shame?
The ones I would get were about "la luz" being cut off, needing to payback money borrowed from a relative, or money for school books. Oh, and of course "no hay comida". It's like they are saying "Papi, you don't want this pussy to stave to death before you get here, do you?" LMAO!This is why I don't do Dominican Cupid unless I am in the area. All that long distance shit for the birds. Talking to a chica for a Time before you go on your vacation only leads to her request for money. On An average of 4-6 message transactions. Some chicas make DC their full-time jobs. They can get paid without getting laid. My top distributor had five guys and to girls that I know of. Listen up newbies Okskool was just talking about it. There are enough 1000 + 1500 peso chicas running around needy in the DR. If you import excuse me transport hey chica to your location you are stuck with her. You have to feed her and cater to her if you are a gentleman. On an average I spend anywhere between 2500 to 4000 on a transport. For me DC cupid is good if I'm in an unfamiliar territory and need to make a connection. Even with that I still have to filter out a lot of chicas. If you on a short vacation dealing with transporting chica is very time consuming. If they do so they are rarely on time. They need babysitting fees transport fees and all of that is a Gamble. That even applies to girls you've already dealt with in the past. There are some success stories. I've had a few. But when things go unclaimed I usually work better for me. I like them RAW. Of course in sosua it's a different ball game with me. 60% of my chicas are repeats.
SavePros321
07-19-16, 21:41
When you lead with money on the short term what else do you expect? Besides they also have a long list of other less savvy guys that will open up their wallet for them. So it's not really a problem for them if you keep your wallet closed. For them it's like the "hail Mary" pass in football. Nothing ventured; Nothing gained.
I never mention anything about money to these chicas. As far as they know I'm just there looking for a pen pal. But I definitely agree the latter part of your post: they have nothing to lose in asking. And it probably works 1 out of every 5-7 guys she comes across online, which would encourage her to continue begging.
SavePros321
07-19-16, 21:59
Some chicas make DC their full-time jobs. They can get paid without getting laid.Yeah, an interesting phenomenon. You've got simps out there literally setting these chicks up with a form of welfare system. "Why go fuck this gringo for 2000 pesos when I can three suckers to send me 2000 all while sitting on my ass?"
So Gogo, this was the other side of the equation I was referring to with your favorite. She's probably got enough guys incentiving her to where she can make more staying at home than she could going out to actually work for it.
But like my man Charles Tyler says, the further you get away from "The Matrix" (USA), the less of this you see. I've fucked well over 30 Colombian chicks to-date and practically keep in touch with all of them via FB. I've only had two ask me for money. A few asks for gifts here and then when I am on my way down. But none of this "my child and I will starve to death if you do not send $50 within the next few hours" begging bullshit, LOL.
Mr Enternational
07-20-16, 03:34
I never mention anything about money to these chicas. As far as they know I'm just there looking for a pen pal. But I definitely agree the latter part of your post: they have nothing to lose in asking. And it probably works 1 out of every 5-7 guys she comes across online, which would encourage her to continue begging.You can't knock the hustle. Many of us stay online meeting chicks. Same thing goes. It will work out with every how many out of how many, which will encourage us to continue looking for chicks online. It is all a numbers game no matter what angle you are shooting from. Same goes for the Nigerian prince emails. Every now and then a fish is going to take the bait.
As I'm walking the ten minutes to my crib three skanks proposition me but fuck that I'm not Tomjackin LOL.
Damn brother, that really cut me; deep too! :(
I thank the father of jesus that I have the Coronado bridge at my disposal; just in case I decide to take the jump!
Besides that, I do plan on a trip to BC in January; if I live that long. Great hearing your reports.
I ran into Mr. E. in Tijuana recently, always a good time with ones that think alike.
This should be a Hustler's anthem. Keep asking until someone says yes. In Boca Chica especially. That is the cheat code. They will ask you until you break. They will come at you every day because they have nothing to lose. Up and down Durante you will see this and experience it. From the shoeshine boys that will offered to shine your flip-flops to the guy that sees you with chica and ask for money because he knows you just want to get away with your girl. Some will shake your hand and speak cordially Hello, my friend until they lowered the Boom. They will not stop. Once they say they have your attention they go in for the kill. Hey can I talk to you. You my friend you supposed to help me. Can I please have a cervesa. I don't have money to pay child support. My children are starving. No leche for my baby. I have no gas for my Moto. I will be a fool to say I heard it all. But I've heard a lot. I wish that I can save all the newbies. But the hyenas have to eat. The strip on Boca Chica is full of them. If you sit back stay quiet and observe the scene it's like animal kingdom. If you think you're a Tarzan you're right but you're not the king of the jungle. Just another Gringo like Tarzan was. I like Boca Chica because it didn't kill me but Made Me Stronger. After a good week or two you are ready for the hustlers of the world. Boca Chica strip is 1/4 the size of sosua. But it has 10 times the number of touts and beggars on the strip. If you are new or returning after being away for awhile everyone is coming at you. A closed mouth don't get fed is the only thing ringing in the back of their mind while they're dealing with you. If they can get you to look into their eyes and listen to their son requests the Trap is set. No today means yes tomorrow. Even if they can get you to say manana. They know you probably don't mean it but they still will be in your face come tomorrow. If they can get you to recommit yourself again so be it. I've heard some say okay how about tomorrow. If you break down and give in that means you're weak and they were right about you . . They will forget everything you did for them yesterday except for the fact that they know your weak . I've seen New Yorkers home I thought we're used to dealing with beggars fall victim . Mr E we need to make a shirt that says don't ask me for s*** in Spanish. Then again what good would that do in Boca Chica.
This should be a Hustler's anthem. Keep asking until someone says yes. In Boca Chica especially. That is the cheat code. They will ask you until you break. They will come at you every day because they have nothing to lose.I know exactly what you are talking about. I saw how aggressive and consistent they were as far back as 2008. Much worse there than Sosua IMO.
Thats why nowadays I try to help a lot of guys out (mostly in Sosua) by offering them tips on how to deal with beggars, touts, aggressive chicas, venders, motoconchos etc.
1) Too much eye contact or acknowledgement when approached can work against you. Better to briefly acknowledge them, and just say no gracias. And repeat no gracias. Until they give up. Sort of like an indifference attitude. Then refocus on whatever you were doing or going to do. If you pay attention to chicas body language, they are a good example. When touts, venders, beggars etc come around, chicas pay them no mind. They won't talk to them, won't look up at them. Nothing. Thats the body language one should adopt. And for the most part chicas don't get bothered. Mostly it's men.
2) If in the middle of a conversation with others, don't allow anybody to rudely interrupt your conversation. Sometimes I put up a hand to indicate I'm not interested and I just keep talking as if they arent there. Or I may let them know they are being rude. I imagine BC is tougher because they will just stand there and won't go away. Nethertheless, I keep my conversation on track. The body language I am expressing is that we do not appreciate being interrupted, and we do not want anything, and have nothing to give.
3) I tell guys it's not in their best interest to tell anybody maybe, maybe later, tomorrow or I don't have money right now. Especially if the reason is you absolutely do not want whatever it is they are offering, or do not want to give anything. All of those responses are weak responses. And it often comes off as weakness to the individual trying to get something out of us. So, if you do not want whatever they are offering, just say no gracias. When they ask or say, ok later? Just say. No. No later. No gracias. My point. The reason why a lot of guys have trouble with touts, beggars etc is because their response language is all wrong. A common response for enough guys, say maybe later or tomorrow. Thinking they won't see them later or tomorrow. Another, is to give in, thinking that once they give up some money, buy the item, or pay for something the individual will go away. Instead that opens up the door to be harrassed even more. And eventually it becomes apparent that others they talk to will think that you are an easy mark. Thats why guys like that , sometimes get surrounded by touts and beggars, and opportunistic chicas.
4) Some time ago I started using some of their own strategy back on them, and it seemed to work. 2 choices. Either you respect me, or you don't. Most times, you'll be approached by someone acting friendly and sincere. In a few seconds the real intent of them approaching you will emerge. I may respond like this to whatever comes my way. I know you say you are my friend. Do you respect me? Of course they will say yes. Ok I'm not interested. I do not want it. If you respect me, you will stop asking me, and stop bothering me. If they protest, or try to plead their problems, I cut them off reminding them that they said they respect me. If they continue, I let them know that they do not respect me, and I definitely do not want to listen to anymore of what they have to say. What choice do they have, but to keep it moving.
5) generally speaking, Guys need to be mindful of how these folks try to take the lead, manipulate your time, control the situation in that moment. Guys need to recognize small minor things that they do. Like yelling at you from across the street just to get your attention. Touts, aggressive chicas and motoconcho drivers are good for that. Sometimes, people will come up to you and start engaging you catching you off guard. One needs to be aware of these tactics. It's somewhat designed to exploit your weaknesses. Get you to react without thinking. Thats how a lot of guys are getting pick pocketed in Sosua and elsewhere by chicas. A typical local wouldn't even stand there long ebnough to listen to some con / scam. But an unsuspecting tourist would. And trhats who gets preyed on the most.
6) Chicas that approach, begging for money or to buy them drinks / food: I just say no gracias. As if I assumed they were offering me something instead of trying to get something. I repeat as many times as deemed necessary. Another strategy is just to keep speaking english. Works well on those who can't understand a lick of english. Or, sometimes, I tell chicas right off the bat to requests for money or drinks, food etc. I'm cheapy cheapy. I used to say, I don't have money. Or some other excuse. I don't do that. Now, I just tell them I'm cheapy cheapy. If they insist I am not cheap. I insist that I am cheap. That I am muy malo. Reason being, once they realize you aint falling for their insincere request, they are going to get pissed anyway. Maybe call you some names. Cheapy is one of them. So I beat them to the punch. They can't shame a dude who has already labeled himself cheapy cheapy or muy malo. Besides, I think its good to let them get mad. Then you get to see how they really felt about you, behind the facade. And who wants to do favors for somebody who really has contempt for you or thinks you owe them because you got something they want?
Mr Enternational
07-20-16, 21:14
I like Boca Chica because it didn't kill me but Made Me Stronger. After a good week or two you are ready for the hustlers of the world. Or either broke!
I know exactly what you are talking about. I saw how aggressive and consistent they were as far back as 2008. Much worse there than Sosua IMO.
Thats why nowadays I try to help a lot of guys out (mostly in Sosua) by offering them tips on how to deal with beggars, touts, aggressive chicas, venders, motoconchos etc.
1) Too much eye contact or acknowledgement when approached can work against you. Better to briefly acknowledge them, and just say no gracias. And repeat no gracias. Until they give up. Sort of like an indifference attitude. Then refocus on whatever you were doing or going to do. If you pay attention to chicas body language, they are a good example. When touts, venders, beggars etc come around, chicas pay them no mind. They won't talk to them, won't look up at them. Nothing. Thats the body language one should adopt. And for the most part chicas don't get bothered. Mostly it's men.
2) If in the middle of a conversation with others, don't allow anybody to rudely interrupt your conversation. Sometimes I put up a hand to indicate I'm not interested and I just keep talking as if they arent there. Or I may let them know they are being rude. I imagine BC is tougher because they will just stand there and won't go away. Nethertheless, I keep my conversation on track. The body language I am expressing is that we do not appreciate being interrupted, and we do not want anything, and have nothing to give.
3) I tell guys it's not in their best interest to tell anybody maybe, maybe later, tomorrow or I don't have money right now. Especially if the reason is you absolutely do not want whatever it is they are offering, or do not want to give anything. All of those responses are weak responses. And it often comes off as weakness to the individual trying to get something out of us. So, if you do not want whatever they are offering, just say no gracias. When they ask or say, ok later? Just say. No. No later. No gracias. My point. The reason why a lot of guys have trouble with touts, beggars etc is because their response language is all wrong. A common response for enough guys, say maybe later or tomorrow. Thinking they won't see them later or tomorrow. Another, is to give in, thinking that once they give up some money, buy the item, or pay for something the individual will go away. Instead that opens up the door to be harrassed even more. And eventually it becomes apparent that others they talk to will think that you are an easy mark. Thats why guys like that , sometimes get surrounded by touts and beggars, and opportunistic chicas.
4) Some time ago I started using some of their own strategy back on them, and it seemed to work. 2 choices. Either you respect me, or you don't. Most times, you'll be approached by someone acting friendly and sincere. In a few seconds the real intent of them approaching you will emerge. I may respond like this to whatever comes my way. I know you say you are my friend. Do you respect me? Of course they will say yes. Ok I'm not interested. I do not want it. If you respect me, you will stop asking me, and stop bothering me. If they protest, or try to plead their problems, I cut them off reminding them that they said they respect me. If they continue, I let them know that they do not respect me, and I definitely do not want to listen to anymore of what they have to say. What choice do they have, but to keep it moving.
5) generally speaking, Guys need to be mindful of how these folks try to take the lead, manipulate your time, control the situation in that moment. Guys need to recognize small minor things that they do. Like yelling at you from across the street just to get your attention. Touts, aggressive chicas and motoconcho drivers are good for that. Sometimes, people will come up to you and start engaging you catching you off guard. One needs to be aware of these tactics. It's somewhat designed to exploit your weaknesses. Get you to react without thinking. Thats how a lot of guys are getting pick pocketed in Sosua and elsewhere by chicas. A typical local wouldn't even stand there long ebnough to listen to some con / scam. But an unsuspecting tourist would. And trhats who gets preyed on the most.
6) Chicas that approach, begging for money or to buy them drinks / food: I just say no gracias. As if I assumed they were offering me something instead of trying to get something. I repeat as many times as deemed necessary. Another strategy is just to keep speaking english. Works well on those who can't understand a lick of english. Or, sometimes, I tell chicas right off the bat to requests for money or drinks, food etc. I'm cheapy cheapy. I used to say, I don't have money. Or some other excuse. I don't do that. Now, I just tell them I'm cheapy cheapy. If they insist I am not cheap. I insist that I am cheap. That I am muy malo. Reason being, once they realize you aint falling for their insincere request, they are going to get pissed anyway. Maybe call you some names. Cheapy is one of them. So I beat them to the punch. They can't shame a dude who has already labeled himself cheapy cheapy or muy malo. Besides, I think its good to let them get mad. Then you get to see how they really felt about you, behind the facade. And who wants to do favors for somebody who really has contempt for you or thinks you owe them because you got something they want?Great report, should be read by everyone and be in Reports of Distinctions.
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