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You deserve A goddamm Pulitzer great article. I had passed by boca but never stayed. I am flying in to SDQ Dec 6 and was going to do 1 night in boca anyway before heading to Sousa, But you have conviced me to make an 3 hr walk thru of the legandary Boca Chica. Your report deserves to be in the "REPORTS OF DISTINCTION" . GOOD JOB!
Hey to Ron. I don`t know what your talking about but to all you newbies Boca is great. Safe, good resturants, nice people and cheap hotels 35 a nite! As to the girls its true the`re not tens but plenty of 7 and 8s. You will get laid with a twenty year for no more than 50 bucks max! You can get it way cheaper. Boca is a quick and easy trip, its true it used to be better but with all these other places airfare 850 dollars, heck thats my whole trip. I`m going back in January!
Boca's great? I guess thats why no one goes there anymore. Boca is doable if you like having sex with overweight over used multi-baby women but its so far from great that my feet hurt thinking about it. I wouldn't build expectations of newbies that can't be met - this place is the dregs of the DR now if you are dependent on what is clearly in the market around town. If on the other hand you have some connections to meet other women, then Boca can still be great because I have no doubt that there are still plenty of women in need of money - but they are afraid to come into town. In the past I always had that connection - basically a scout who would bring me talent from nearby towns that was fine - but even she had disappeared. But the weather is warm and I got a great tan so I can't complain too much! I haven't been to Sosua in some 4 years but from everything I have read it sounds like a much better place for newbies these days.
I agree with your opinion about BC. When I was there last Feb after the crackdown, I was still able to have a good time. The daytime action that I prefer was still available.
I'm heading back there March1, and I'll be staying at the ElCandil. I don't know if you'll be back there then or not. I hope that you have a good trip in Jan, and will look forward to hearing about it. I'd appreciate a couple of telephone numbers that are current if possible.
Thanks, Sailor02
EZE_Amante
12-11-05, 10:43
I won't disagree at all with the recent assessments of the scene here in BC. It is nothing at all like the glory days, and the service I have been provided so far has been fairly horrible. Some do pretty decently with straight sex, but I haven't found a girl, yet, that gives an even passable BJ.
However, things have picked up a bit for the night time action in the last few months. The American Bar, which is adjacent to the Europa, is open and there are a handful of doable chicas there, seems to be the same ones every night. Not many customers so far, pretty dead actually. They have begun to close off Duarte again at night, from the pizza place near the Hamaca, down to a block shy of Burbujas Disco. Route 66 is open again, as well as the place next to it across the street from the old Cosmos, and most of the chicas are stationed there. Tables in the streets as usual, and the normal mix of a few regular tourists, and maybe 10-20 hobbyists per night. Probably a 5-1 girl to guy ratio on Friday night, but most nights, more like 9-1. Prices have remained fairly constant, with hi-ball quotes if you make the mistake of asking instead of telling what you are willing to pay. I have been paying 800 pesos short time, every girl has accepted except for a couple of real stunners from San Pedro who were only in town Friday night for a few hours, and were looking for the big quick score. As hot as they were, I'm sure they found it. Crickets could be heard chirping in Burbujas it was so empty, and that was the only night game in town a few months ago.
Overall chica attitudes are worse than ever, imho, but the daytime action is still fairly decent at Playa Vista, and Isla Bonita, and I have gotten better service from the girls I pull during the day. I don't do the massage parlors, but an American was attacked in the one behind Casa Coco Wednesday night. I won't give all the details, but there were 4 or 5 guys in the sitting room, locals, when he came in. He made a deal with the girl he selected for 2500 pesos and paid up front, then upstairs he wanted a massage, and the girl said she wasn't a professional, and then didn't want to do anything else either. So the guy goes downstairs in his underwear asking for another girl, and the locals jump him, knocking him down, he hit his head requiring 13 stitches later, but did escape the place. The Politur were involved later, but the American refused to file a formal complaint. I won't give the rest of the story, but I guess my point is, this can be a dangerous place, once you get off the main drag. Another guy was mugged on the hill in broad daylight, for his cell phone, they didn't even request his money. ALWAYS, be aware of your surroundings, I personally would have seen 4 locals sitting there and walked past in the first place, but I don't do MP's here. The guys sure as hell weren't customers.
Anyway, I personally have had no trouble whatsoever with the girls or anyone else. I have been very clear in up front negotiations, and the girls have done what they agreed to, just not very well. But, I will keep searching. Overall the scene is better than it was a few months ago, but nothing like the glory days. I'll report more at the end of this trip
EZE
Your report was excellent and much needed, since we do not hear to much these days on Boca Chica for the reasons you wrote about.
Can someone who has stayed at the ElCaucho please tell me what the difference is between the standard room and the superior room. Is the superior room larger, does it have a living room area etc.
I would also like some info about the in house chicas. How much for ST and TLN. How was the service quality etc.
I will be in BC for 1 week beginning March 1. Would like to meet others from this board if possible.
Thanks for any info, Sailor02
Never been to the El Caucho, but can vouch for the Palm Beach (2 blocks from Duarte), where I spent Txgiving last month, at US$45 day (AC, hot water, firm! queen bed and kitchen with fridge, nice pool too). Check this site if you need more info: http://www.bocachicaplaya.com/hotels.htm
All the hotels there are managed by Italian expats and are all GF, if they bring their cedulas.
Only one hotel I recommend to avoid is the Coral Villas Club, where I came back from the beach on my previous trip to find a mugger in my bedroom. I fled before I could (or the motoconchos I sent after him) catch him.
Safe trip.
Forgot to answer this one earlier, but there are a couple of chicas casas close to the Dominican Bay I did check on my earlier trip. IMHO, girls would be between a 4-6 (max) during the day. Been quoted DOP2000 for a ST, quite a lot for the selection... Never been there at night to check quality, as you can find what you need at Route 66 and Burbujas (after 12am only will girls come).
If you got a good motoconcho, there are a nr. streets close to the Mango's (? not sure of the name) hotel where non/semi-pros hang out in the afternoon. More stunners there than in the Duarte, but you better speak Spanish to score. 800-1000 for a 8-9 scale.
Happy hunting
Hello to all:
I just recently booked 1 week in BocaChica, and will be traveling with a scuba diving buddy. We will be staying at ElCaucho, and hope to run into members of this site while we are there.
I want to thank those who have posted, and in an effort to keep this part of the board alive I'm posting this message. I'll look forward to any input from others who have been there in the last few months.
Sailor02
I recently found out that I would have an opportunity to take a well-earned vacation in early January. Not having found out where this site had moved to and needing to make arrangements in a hurry, I went from memory (of what I'd read on this board in the past; I've never been to the DR). So I booked a (very cheap) flight into SDQ, and made reservations for 10 days at El Candil in Boca Chica. But after discovering this site's new location and reading up on the latest happenings, I'm thinking that I may need to make a side trip to Sosua for part of my vacation to maximize its "relaxation quotient."
I figure no matter how bad the p4p situation currently is in BC, I'll spend at least some time there sitting on the beach getting a tan and drinking some Presidente's. I need some flat out relaxation, and BC is convenient to the airport I'm stuck going into and out of. But it sounds like I'll want to spend at least half my time Sosua to ensure that my "takedown" ratio stays in the "successful vacation" green band, then head back down to BC the day before my flight leaves in order to catch an early morning flight out of SDQ.
I don't know if this is a good plan or not, but it's what I have at this point. One concern is whether I'll be able to book reasonable last minute hotel accomodations in Sosua (e.g. clean, air conditioned, private bath, not far from the action). Any thoughs? And, at this point I'm not sure what the "successful vacation" chica count should be, but I've always managed at least 2 per day on this type of trip before, even when I was spending much of my time with a Novia.
Anyway, to get to the specific questions: what is really worth (or not worth) taking along? I'd already figured out the condoms and Astroglide, and sunscreen and Imodium AD. I've heard that some guys are taking lots of other shit with them, apparently because of the high local cost of common goods, but they're experts on what to take to the DR and I'm an amateur. So, does anyone have specific recommendations on stuff to take?
Any specific security tips? I like my toys and was planning on bring some top-of-the-line electronics, e.g. a new laptop, digital camera, mp3 player, etc., but I'm a little concerned about some of this stuff "walking off" (especially the laptop, which might not fit in a standard hotel room size safe). I'm also a little concerned with how safe the room safe might be, if it locks with a key, since I could be asleep with someone else in the room. Maybe this is just paranoia - outside of the U.S., I've never been ripped off by a puta. But I did see a tip about locking the chica's Credula in your safe - and this seems like it might be a good idea, but possibly somewhat difficult to implement in a real world, hopefully social, situation.
Let's see, what else? Prices. I've gotten a general sense of ST 400RD-550RD (500RD average), LT 500RD-1000RD (750RD average), TLN 1000RD-1500RD (1200RD average), and "Model Quality TLN" 1500RD-2500RD (2000RD average). Do these numbers sound about right for BC and Sosua? Also, what should a "motoconche" ride cost in BC or Sosua? I've seen 30RD-100RD - more variation percentage wise that the price for chicas. Oh, and where are good places to buy good cigars in BC or Sosua? I understand that I can bring back 4 boxes duty free, and if I can get them for a significantly better price than the cigar catelogs, I would like to do so.
OK, I generally like really thin girls of any race, and how far I am willing to deviate from that formula is largely a function of how big her breasts are (and, of course, how much I've had to drink). Is that shallow or what? But one can't help what one likes. A pretty face is also nice, as long as the girl also has one of the other qualities (thin or big tits). But I've also been know to be a bit perverse, e.g. lactation, deep throat, BBBJTCNQNS, or anal may get a girl who otherwise wouldn't qualify (because I almost never do repeats) a repeat opportunity. So if there are any last minute tips related to meeting my ideal (or a repeatable) woman,, in BC or Sosua, please let me know.
Narwhal
Hey Narwhal:
It appears to me that you are planning the perfect trip to the DR. I have never been to the North coast because it is much easier for me to fly into SDQ. I was in BocaChica last year in Feb 05 after the crack down, and still had a very nice time. This must have been some kind of wild place before, because I enjoyed myself in spite of what is being said about this place.
I would like to try a combination South/North coast trip eventually, but I would do so only with a more experienced DR traveler since my spanish is limited.
As far as ElCandil is concerned, I think that this is an excellent hotel. I wouldn't worry about any valuables in this hotel since the rooms have dead bolt locks, and security is very tight there. The girls must surrender their cedulas (I.D's) at the front office before being allowed inside the complex.
As I mentioned, I don't know much about the North, but my research about RTFF suggests to me that the Europa in Sosua would meet my needs. The owners at ElCandil can arrange this for you as well after you arrive in BC.
I hope that this info is helpful and to any others who are planning to go to the South. Please get back to me with any pertinent info such as names, telephone numbers and prices.
Good Luck, Sailor02
As Sailor02 stated the El Candil is an excellent choice for a hotel. The rooms are very clean and secure. There is a mp directly across the street and I stopped in there on 3 different occasions but nothing of quality was there. You will find many free lancers just walking up and down the street past the hotel, as it is the way to the beach. Peter is one of the owners and he is from Denmark or Finland I believe. He is a great guy and that goes for the entire staff there.
What I have to add to Sailors02 report is to contact Peter and he will pick you up and drop you off at the airport if you ask. He will do whatever is necessary to make your trip and enjoyable one for you. If you need any information on anything such as restaurants, where to find internet cafes, transportation, places to go e.t.c. just p.m me, and I will also help you in any way I can.
Can anybody give me suggestions on a motel in Boca Chica that is nice and and allows you to bring 2 women to your room at one time.
I enjoy staying at the Candil motel, however you can only bring one woman at a time.
Can anybody give me suggestions on a motel in Boca Chica that is nice and and allows you to bring 2 women to your room at one time.
I enjoy staying at the Candil motel, however you can only bring one woman at a time.One woman? Thats unAmerican and certainly UnDominican. Never had any trouble bringing multiple parties within at either CostaLunga or El Caucho - unless policy has changed - last time I was at El Candil a few years back they did not have that policy.
Can anyone give me some hotel reviews in Boca Chica?
Thinking about staying at The Hamilton or Costalunga. Are these a good choice? Allow guests? Rates?
Any info please.
Hi Bosco,
I was in Boca Chica at beg. of this year, stayed at Hotel El Candil. Nothing to complain. Very chica friendly, nice owner and staff with daily cleaning, nice cozy room for 30 dollars a day. I also checked Hamilton and Costalunga. It looks a good hotel but a little bit away from the action.
Chute
Jazzy Daddy
01-17-06, 18:56
I've been to BC six times over the past 14 months and the last time I was there in November I stayed at the El Candil. I agree with Chute, the staff is good, the rooms are clean(furniture needs updating)and the owners will pick you up and drop you off at the airport(with advanced notice). Have fun...
I just returned from Boca and the news is mixed. The amount of Dominican girls is down but there are a good amount of Haitian girls. The place is packed with Itailian tourists.Daytime action is way down.Overall the action is nowhere near as good as it was in July.Burbaras is dead.The nightime action has shifted to the middle of the town centering around a disco called Caribean disco, you can`t miss it its in the middle of the town.Stayed at the The Azzura $40 a nite. Not a bad place but the room I got was a little barren but safe and clean, chica friendly.EL candil and los Pinos were both full but they are far from yhe action any way. The best located hotels are the azzura,Terrce caribe and the garant which was full. Casa Coco looked a little run down from the outside but is in a good location.Late at nite there is also a pretty good gathering of girls next in the Billiard club.These girls are cheap.500 to 1000 max. You can take them to your hotel or they all go in this small hotel right there forgot the name for about 200 peseso. But the place lokks dirty to me, so for girls without an id card I use the Cahella 400 pesos but clean.This is actually a nice hotel and woild be worth syaying there.
The best girl I had did not have her her Id used cachella. Chica cost 1000 to 1500 one shot probaly. A really foxy chick will always ask for 1500.Hatians way cheaper with 500 to 700 the norm .The girls in front the billards are cheap. Exchange rate is 34 to one us dollar.All the girls did not want their pictures taken,they did not want their pictures on the internet.
Can someone who has stayed at the ElCaucho please tell me what the difference is between the standard room and the superior room. Is the superior room larger, does it have a living room area etc.
I would also like some info about the in house chicas. How much for ST and TLN. How was the service quality etc.
I will be in BC for 1 week beginning March 1. Would like to meet others from this board if possible.
Thanks for any info, Sailor02
ElCaucho is not a bad place, I stayed there in Sep 05,( Check my report also ) Francisco is one of the patners, quit nice guy, Say my ( Eric from TX) regards he will take care of you.
Ad I will be in BC Feb 24th for 3 days
First, I'd like to thank everyone who offered info to me about BC. Eric, can you tell me how much the in house girls at ElCaucho were geting for both ST and TLN? I know that you will be in BC next month, and I hope that you have a nice time.
Scruffman, where is this billiard club that you mentioned in your last report. This place sound like it may have possibilities.
Thanks again for the information, Sailor02
The house chicas tend to switch around I believe. When I was there last January they had 2 gorgeous girls - I mean knockouts - but silly me assumed they were girlfriends of the owners - because there are some of them about as well - so I never made an offer and they never made an approach (which I believe is forbidden) - and so the day after they leave to go back to Santiago another guy fills me in and I wanted to smack myself. He told me they asked for 1,500 and he got them down to 1,000 for ST. Last time there in November I had hoped they would be back but no such luck - there were two girls around that I now assumed to be on the hire but neither did much for me. Just be careful not to hit on one of the girlfriends - she is stunning - lean with an amazing chest - I did the first time thinking she was in the game after she did a pole dance in front of me - only to be shot down with an angered huff!
In BC for a week Feb 18-25. I would like to venture into the capital anyone interested please pm.
Sluth
The billard club is a bar on duarte street. It stays open late. It is next to the pequena swiss.
Sailor02
They start with 2500 - 3000, I think I paid 1000 for the ST.
and 1500 for the LT but that turned to be a ST, For details check my post
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=385767#post385767
Any new places in Boca Area? Heading down soon. Where should I go to Boca or SD?
I am Planning to visit BC arround Feb 24th, and thinking about hotel
The short List is
Casa Coco $30 + Free Airport Pickup
Hotel Europa $35 ( Econo Room)
BurBujas $30
El-Caucho $35
I know EL-Caucho is nice, But it is on the other side of town, I don't think it is good to walk @ nite, From El-Caucho to Duarte.
Burbujas & Europa are right on Duarte. Casa coo is a a little walk ( as per map), is it safe to walk from Casa coco to Duarte ?
Any recomendation.
Casa coca looked run down from the outside, but it may be nice. It is close to the action, right up the block. Burbaras looked good, didn`t go inside near the action too. Hotel Europa I think is in the middle of town. El Caucho is way too far from town.
Casa coca looked run down from the outside, but it may be nice. It is close to the action, right up the block. Burbaras looked good, didn`t go inside near the action too. Hotel Europa I think is in the middle of town. El Caucho is way too far from town.Casa Coco is about a block and a half from duarte, I cannot vouch for rooms because I have never stayed there but have a great reasonable breakfast, I do know they used to not to be too big on guests but possibly that has changed. The Europa is a half a block off Duarte toward the beach, kinda caddycorner to playa vista. Personaly don't like it, kinda dingy and poor staff. Also have not stayed at El Caucho although one of my boca favorites had an apartment I used to stay at real close to there and it seemed okay. some good choices IMHO are Costalunga, El Candil and Los Pinos. I read someone said it was far from action but hell this is Boca Chica, nothing is too far, either walking or on motoconchos, of which there is never a shortage. Los Pinos is 35.00 per night with no tax if you talk with Guilermo. Nice rooms, clean, refrigerator, cable with porn channel, security, lockboxes and of course chica friedly as long as she has cedulla. My favorite is Costalunga.Same amenities as above. Great staff from the owner Mario all they way down to housekeepers, especily Miguel and Francisco,some of my best times are spent hanging with people I meet right in outdoor lobby, BTW you can find some occasional jewels walking in front of hotel and lobby.
[Casa Coco $30 + Free Airport Pickup
Hotel Europa $35 ( Econo Room)
BurBujas $30
El-Caucho $35
Stay away from Burbujas - it is on the main drag and very noisy, small rooms and its falling apart - a real dump.
If you don't want El Caucho I would pony up the extra $5 a night and stay at Costa Lunga - so much nicer than any of the other 3 places mentioned.
Marc Anthony
02-03-06, 06:54
I've been to the North Coast a couple of times but currently the best air deals I can get are from Spirit to SD (Spirit has some pretty good specials connecting in Ft. Lauderdale until Sunday). The arrival is 2:15 PM and the last Caribe tours bus to Sosua is I think 6pm. Is it reasonable to expect to get through customs/luggage and afternoon traffic by cab to the Caribe station in SD in that time? I've never been to SD and I have no sense of traffic or the airport. TIA.
Just got my Ticket from Spiritair.com $399.90 frol Dalls to SD. Not a bad deal at all.
Any one has any experiance or know lege about Madjera hotel and Lospinos,
Pictures on their web site looks good.
Grand Pollo
02-04-06, 04:26
Los Pinos is an apartment building with a few rooms by the day or week. Very nice, clean , big, quiet. No pool. Cash only. If they have rooms and you don't want to swim other than the beach, it is a fine choice. Most would take as their first choice the Costalunga across the street, but I've stayed at LP twice and it was very good. Bring a padlock for the strong box. It is 1/4" steel but uses a padlock vs. a supplied built in lock. Big though.
Los Pinos is an apartment building with a few rooms by the day or week. Very nice, clean , big, quiet. No pool. Cash only. If they have rooms and you don't want to swim other than the beach, it is a fine choice. Most would take as their first choice the Costalunga across the street, but I've stayed at LP twice and it was very good. Bring a padlock for the strong box. It is 1/4" steel but uses a padlock vs. a supplied built in lock. Big though.Must concur with Rick,my first choice is Costalunga but have stayed at Los Pinos several times as well, in addition to what he described both Costalunga and Los Pinos have kitchen with stove and refrigerator which is a plus as I usually buy somethings at supermercado (beer, water, snacks as well as food)
It seems as though you got a good deal on your airfare. I purchased an online ticket with Spirit from Prov, RI for $320 a month ago when they were running a sale.
I don't know much about these hotels since I have never stayed at either of them. I do think that someone on this board had a negative comment about the Madjera. Why aren't you staying at ElCaucho?
Well anyway, have a nice trip, and thanks for the info you gave me. I'll be heading to BC on March 1st. Maybe we can discuss the details about the scene before then.
Happy and safe hunting, Sailor02.
Eric, The Madjera is right on the beach. The only drawback is that the rooms are small. But they are modern and clean. The AC is good and the price is 31 a nite. I stayed there once . Not a bad choice.Close to restuarents and clubs.
Victor Lazlo
02-08-06, 09:03
I've been to the North Coast a couple of times but currently the best air deals I can get are from Spirit to SD (Spirit has some pretty good specials connecting in Ft. Lauderdale until Sunday). The arrival is 2:15 PM and the last Caribe tours bus to Sosua is I think 6pm. Is it reasonable to expect to get through customs/luggage and afternoon traffic by cab to the Caribe station in SD in that time? I've never been to SD and I have no sense of traffic or the airport. TIA.Based on my own experience, I'd say you should have no problem making the 5 PM bus and may well catch the 4 o'clock. To put your mind further at ease, according to the Caribe Tours website http://www.caribetours.com.do/, the last bus to Sosua leaves at 7 PM.
The trip takes about 4.5-5 hours and costs 7-8 US dollars. Taxi from SDQ to Caribe Tours maybe $25-30.
i just returned from boca and the news is mixed. the amount of dominican girls is down but there are a good amount of haitian girls. the place is packed with itailian tourists.daytime action is way down.overall the action is nowhere near as good as it was in july.burbaras is dead.the nightime action has shifted to the middle of the town centering around a disco called caribean disco, you can`t miss it its in the middle of the town.stayed at the the azzura $40 a nite. not a bad place but the room i got was a little barren but safe and clean, chica friendly.el candil and los pinos were both full but they are far from yhe action any way. the best located hotels are the azzura,terrce caribe and the garant which was full. casa coco looked a little run down from the outside but is in a good location.late at nite there is also a pretty good gathering of girls next in the billiard club.these girls are cheap.500 to 1000 max. you can take them to your hotel or they all go in this small hotel right there forgot the name for about 200 peseso. but the place lokks dirty to me, so for girls without an id card i use the cahella 400 pesos but clean.this is actually a nice hotel and woild be worth syaying there.just reading over some old posts and saw this. careful people, don't want to see anybody get in a jam. if the girl does not have ceduula there is no usually a reason. often it means either they are **** or have been in trouble somewhere and it was confirep001ed or they are afraid to return and get it back.(policia, ripped somebody off, ect...) the ramifications of either scenario are not positive.
I want to thank those who have answered my questions and those who have posted on the BC board. I'm headed there in 8 more days with a scuba buddy. I'll report back either from BC or when I return. I'm going crazy with anticipation.
Sailor02
Hey Guys
I'm at the ElCaucho and having a great time in BC. Those who have said that BC is a thing of the past are dead wrong.
I'll post a trip report when I get back. Too busy having fun with the Chicas, and drinking.
Sailor02
Sailor,
Say hello to everyone at ElCaucho.
I will be there next month and looking forward to it.
I second that-I will be travelling with Bosco and Juan-We had a great time at the El Caucho in November-and returning April 4 for 7-10 days. How many days Bosco?
LOL
Casa coca looked run down from the outside, but it may be nice. It is close to the action, right up the block. Burbaras looked good, didn`t go inside near the action too. Hotel Europa I think is in the middle of town. El Caucho is way too far from town.It has been a several years since I was in BC, but I did stay at Casa Coco. At the time it was owned by a Canadian expat and was guest friendly (very). There was one large room downstairs next to the pool. The rest of the rooms were a bit smaller however there was no air conditioning. It did have a nice pool and the food was very good.
Another trip I stayed at the Hotel Europa. Large rooms but a bit worn in my opinion. I moved to the Costalunga after two days and had no problem walking from there to the beach even at night.
Grand Pollo
03-13-06, 05:21
Re: Casa Coco - It must have been quite a few years, since Gary L. sold out and a German (or Dutch - somewhere in Europe) bought it some time ago. It is still non A/C too small, not enough of a lower price, if any, to recommend over either Costalunga or the El Candil. When Gary was there is was really an anything goes sort of place that's for sure. But those days are gone.
The pool is nice if small (vs. Costalunga) but the breakfast is good and a fair price, better than Garant which was the best but I think it is far too much money now.
I just returned from 1 week in BC. I went there with a SCUBA buddy and ISG member (Diver Up). Our goal was to get some diving in as well as score some chicas. I can tell you all that we had a great time at both activities.
We stayed at the ElCaucho. Those of you that have stayed there know how the place is, and how friendly the owners are in providing excellent customer service. For those who have not, the complex has a quaint but small resort style. The rooms are arranged around a pool area. I front of the complex is a bar/covered patio area where most of the socializing takes place. This is where the in house chicas are located. They will not approach you. You must make the first move. There is a good variety of girls in various shapes and sizes. They are very friendly and sweet. The going rate is 1000-1500 ST. LT is probably somewhat higher, but I can't verify since I did not partake.
Also located in the front is a seperate building with a restaurant on the second floor above a first flor kitchen. The food is very good and priced fairly.
The strongest and best feature of this hotel is the attitude of the owners. These guys (Francesco and Abbey) will go above and beyond your expectations to insure that you have a good time. I compare it to like staying with family.
The scene on Duarte is livelier than it was last year. There are a few more clubs open, and the girls are easy and plentiful. If for some reason you don't like what you see there, you can always go for one of the in house girls at ElCaucho.
I met a lot of good people there and made some friendships that i know will last.
My buddy and I had a great time both diving and chica hunting.
BC is far from dead, and I can't wait until my next trip. Unfortunately I can't pull this off until next year.
I don't have any pics since I don't have the technical hardware.
I hope that this info is helpful. Keep it safe.
Sailor02
Re: Casa Coco - It must have been quite a few years, since Gary L. sold out and a German (or Dutch - somewhere in Europe) bought it some time ago. It is still non A/C too small, not enough of a lower price, if any, to recommend over either Costalunga or the El Candil. When Gary was there is was really an anything goes sort of place that's for sure. But those days are gone.
The pool is nice if small (vs. Costalunga) but the breakfast is good and a fair price, better than Garant which was the best but I think it is far too much money now.The Casa Coco is for sale (the French Owners have had it with running a business in BC).
Conciliator
03-16-06, 00:46
If you have a nice place with a maid and cook, and if you have an extra room in your house, apt. or condo that I can lease for several months I would really appreciate it. I want to come to the D.R. from the states for a nice change. I am a bachelor and like that D.R. women are beautiful, plentiful, and aim to please. I am a good sport, low key, no trouble, and financially secure. If you don't have the maid/cook thing going let me know and maybe we can work something out.
Respectfully,
C.
Grand Pollo
03-18-06, 02:04
The Casa Coco is for sale (the French Owners have had it with running a business in BC).
Well they got hung with a pile of debt, cannot charge a whole lot since the hotel is pretty weak so they are in for it getting their investment back I think.
BacknBlack
03-25-06, 15:11
Have not been in Boca Chica in 4-5 yrs. I started going to Sosua but have not been there either in 3 yrs. I am looking to go down to the DR in Apr. Where does everybody recommend I go?
Thanks
BacknBlack
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Marc Anthony
03-26-06, 01:08
Well done reports. Just curious where you stayed as it sounded like you were pleased in both cases.
Well done reports. Just curious where you stayed as it sounded like you were pleased in both cases.Although, I don't post where I stay in Boca Chica, I can recommend a few good hotels.
-Helpmann :)
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SOSUA: (Where I stay)
Casa Linda Villas - Is an gated community a few minutes drive outside of Sosua off of Autopista #5. The community mainly consists of ex-pats; however, because some of these homes are 2nd homes, they are rented out to tourists. Prices range from approximately $80-150 a night for 2 and 3-bedroom villas that include a private pool, full kitchen, and 2 bathrooms.
Hispaniola Real Estate (http://www.hispaniolarealestate.com)
Contact: Birgit Kottmann Andujar
Casa Linda Online (http://www.casalindaonline.com)
Contact: Timo Pallaks
Caribe Campo - Is an Apartment/Condo Complex in Sosua off of Autopista #5. They generally are looking for buyers, but they do rent out apartments for those traveling in the area, even for short visits. Residents have the freedom to come and go as they please. Because families (Ex-pats) live in the complex, don't expect to find hookers working the bars or swimming in the pool. However, who you bring is your guest and is welcome to enjoy the facilities of the complex. 1-bedroom apartment was $50.
Caribe Campo (http://www.caribecampoclub.de/)
BOCA CHICA: (What I can recommend)
El Caucho (http://www.elcaucho.com/)
El Candil (http://www.comdata.nl/hotel-boca-chica-candil/)
Costa Lunga (http://www.costalunga.net)
Map of Boca Chica (http://bocachicabeach.net/map.html)
Have not been in Boca Chica in 4-5 yrs. I started going to Sosua but have not been there either in 3 yrs. I am looking to go down to the DR in Apr. Where does everybody recommend I go?
Thanks
BacknBlackOne more time...
-Helpmann ;)
North vs. South (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=427691&postcount=41)
Sosua vs. Boca Chica (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=362802#post362802)
If I learned one thing about boca chica, it is DO NOT go during Semana Santa (Easter). I was thinking that spring break in the dominican city where most of the locals go would mean lots of semi pro action and a good price to quality ratio. How wrong I was. I stayed at El Caucho, and even there all the girls under 180 lbs. (80kg? ) left to go see their family. One guy I met had stayed there for 3 months (it's his new home) and he told me that normally there are nice "house" girls working at the hotel. But there were not any while I was there.
As far as the hotel itself goes, it was nice enough for $35. The owners were very nice and helpful, however, avoid room 16 until they get around to fixing the water leaking from the pipes in the bathroom ceiling! (and avoid the caprese salad with the fake, tofu tasting mozerella).
As for the beach and the town, it is dirty. You walk down the street and you smell dead, rotting animals. I heard about people being mugged and there are some guys on motoconchos who supposedly take you out of town to be mugged. However I never had any problems and I'm always by myself. It still wasn't a town that was nice and clean that I felt comfortable hanging out in.
The beach was pretty, but there were so many people (by their looks, more haitian than dominican) that you couldn't hardly see the sand. Honestly people had less than a foot or two of space around them and their beach towel. I've been told the beach is very beautiful in normal conditions, but I can't confirm this. There is a reef that stops most of the waves coming in, which makes for very calm water. However it is very warm, and with so many people in the water, it makes me feel like it is just a big bath tub for everybody (and tons of little kids pissing in it, of course).
As far as the action, there didn't seem to be many non pros hanging out. Since I was nearly the only white tourist in the whole town, I really stood out from everyone. I'm sure I would have been approached had there been many working girls, but I wasn't. The moto kids can take you to a few houses with girls, but the are not budging off 2000 pesos for basic service. Maybe it was cause of the tons of people in town, they are in more demand or someting, but I never saw more than a couple other guys come into the houses while I was there. So I don't see why they think they are worth that much money. It was really mind blowing. There weren't even any really hot girls to choose from. Some were decent, but not worth over $60 for a an hour. So the action was very disappointing.
So I can't say stay away from BC all year round, but definately stay away at easter vacation. And as a whole, everybody says the north is better. Even santo domingo is more clean and has a much better selection of nightlife and women. That's my 2 cents.
JesseJames
04-29-06, 17:09
i was mugged in bc. while walking, a motorbike pulled up, with 3 guys. two got off and grabbed me. the driver went away. i got away but one took my prescription glasses. i gave them $20 for the glasses. i could have been hurt or killed. there's a lot of desperados in sd
the reef traps all the pollution in the bay, it's toxic. i went swimming in it and got a double ear infection. woke up feeling like id been punched on both sides of my head.
had to go to the santo domingo dump they call a hospital emergency room (don't get sick or injured in dr) where i was referred to a private dr. , who vacumed my ears and gave me antibiotics.
i'll never go back to that poophole.
i was mugged in bc. while walking, a motorbike pulled up, with 3 guys. two got off and grabbed me. the driver went away. i got away but one took my prescription glasses. i gave them $20 for the glasses. i could have been hurt or killed. there's a lot of desperados in sd
the reef traps all the pollution in the bay, it's toxic. i went swimming in it and got a double ear infection. woke up feeling like id been punched on both sides of my head.
had to go to the santo domingo dump they call a hospital emergency room (don't get sick or injured in dr) where i was referred to a private dr. , who vacumed my ears and gave me antibiotics.
i'll never go back to that poophole.sounds very bad luck. boca chica is generally safe if you don't show your money too much. it's not safer than other tourist destinations in the world, but not more dangerous either.
ear infection is also just your own mistake. when the water is more than 25 celsius, you should clean your ears with a earstick each time after swimming. i think boca chica is not polluted or at least less polluted than any us or european beach i have visited. i have got ear infection several times while in western australia where the pollution level is one of the lowest in the world.
well, getting sick in dr isn't that bad if you have a travel insurance. there are very professional doctors in santo domingo once you have the money or proof of insurance.
jalle
JesseJames
05-01-06, 22:46
Sounds very bad luck. Boca Chica is generally safe if you don't show your money too much. It's not safer than other tourist destinations in the world, but not more dangerous either.
Ear infection is also just your own mistake. When the water is more than 25 celsius, you should clean your ears with a earstick each time after swimming. I think Boca Chica is not polluted or at least less polluted than any US or European beach I have visited. I have got ear infection several times while in Western Australia where the pollution level is one of the lowest in the world.
Well, getting sick in DR isn't that bad if you have a travel insurance. There are very professional doctors in Santo Domingo once you have the money or proof of insurance.
JalleI like your health tip about using a Q tip after swimming. I will do that, in the future. Carrying a water thermometer, in my beach bag, is doable.
But I've swum all over the world, including Coney Island, and never gotten an ear infection, in my life. BC water is beautiful but filthy. Just go to your hotel pool. No problem. It's good to be warned about possible situations.
I'm sure the doctors are very professional. The Dr. who treated me was excellent, very nice and reasonably priced. I am referring to the ER in the hospital I visited. No modern trauma center, to be sure.
I would have to say it is more dangerous than any other place I've been to.
BC is the only place I've been mugged. That's why the all-inclusives have guards, with shot guns out front and the tourists don't leave the compound.
Most people are very nice. Some of the girls are very beautiful. I would go back if there were no other places to go.
Grand Pollo
05-02-06, 01:59
To jessejames
If you get sick in the southern DR you can go to several US-standard hospitals at reasonable (lower than US) rates in the capital, notably Clinica Abreu where when I went (for a dengue check) I had to wait to allow for security since the president was in there having a mole attended to.
Most embassy staff go there as well, vs. say flying to Miami.
If you had the misfortune to go to a public hospital well, you should have paid more, and not much more.
Also walking at night especially drunk or alone after dark in Boca Chica is risky for the reason you mentioned. Use a motoconcho downtown to uptown. Note it is risky in many US cities as well.
JesseJames
05-02-06, 16:20
To jessejames
If you get sick in the southern DR you can go to several US-standard hospitals at reasonable (lower than US) rates in the capital, notably Clinica Abreu where when I went (for a dengue check) I had to wait to allow for security since the president was in there having a mole attended to.
Most embassy staff go there as well, vs. say flying to Miami.
If you had the misfortune to go to a public hospital well, you should have paid more, and not much more.
Also walking at night especially drunk or alone after dark in Boca Chica is risky for the reason you mentioned. Use a motoconcho downtown to uptown. Note it is risky in many US cities as well.Clinica Abreau is the hospital I went to. It leaves much to be desired. It has a nice cafeteria, though.
just returned from boca chica and the dr. first i want to thank all the veteran posters here on this site. i am a rookie and have never posted anything, i have stayed in the shadows, took notes and learned. based off information i received on this site , i had a great time. i speak poor spanish, but i can say things, i just can't interpret the response back to me. so i guess you can say i do not speak the language. however i had few if any problems. i also had a prearranged taxi for $30 usd each way. a bit high, but i did not know what to expect the first trip, so it was better safe than sorry. the going rate for a taxi to boca from the airport is now $22usd.they took my tourist at immigration. they said i did not need it. i thought i was to always keep it. but they said go, so i went. i also reserved a car for the next day pick up. i wanted to see the roads and how the natives drive. lets just say truly anything goes. i will address the driving later. i made reservations and paid prior to my trip at the europa hotel. it looks great from the outside, but the rooms could use a little work. they are nice and big and for the most part clean. the service was also pretty good. the house chicas are nice looking but probable not worthy of the $2000 dominican pesos they request. say no to one or 2 and all will have an attitude with you. this is however no problem, there are plenty of chicas around the little strip of duarte street. most of the tourists that were at the hotel when i was there were working the streets and not the house chicas. i arrived in the evening after dark. when the taxis pull up all eyes are on you as the chicas and the little kids scope you out. then the kids bombard you to help you with your bags. i like to kid with them. i give them a peso every so often, sometimes they can be an asset as a go-for. you know go for that chica, or anything else you can communicate to them. i put my bag in the room and came back down on the hotel porch. two nice looking house chicas introduced themselves, neither knew english, but they know very basic words and sentences, like what is your name and where are you from. that’s about it. i was apprehensive so i just said “no hablar espanol” and showed no interest. instant blackball! but i had to feel the place and the people out. the kids do not give up so easy so be aware. i walked up and down the strip. you will get plenty of attention, because they will know you are new. i am a black american so many thought i might be a dominican, but i still got a great deal of chica attention. the new european tourist were swamped. i ended he first evening just scouting and gathering information. downsize of europa, is it is noisy especially late 2-4 am as the disco crank up and all the parting and loud talk comes through the walls and windows. you are basically on the strip. next morning i made the decision i was going to rent the car and drive regardless of most of the advice i read saying “nooooo!”. i took a taxi back to alamo car rental outside the airport. they had the best deal at the time. rented a sentra for $130 us for 5 days. they put about a $600 hold on your credit card. i guess they expect damage when you return the car. if you rent a car mark every scratch on the pre inspection. i picked up car and turned to a raving maniac behind the wheel. i just blended in that is all. you have to be aggressive , make your own lanes, leave the road rage in the hotel, get use to blowing your horn and having everyone blow at you. you need to buy a very detailed map. what you get from the rental company will get you lost leaving the rental gate. envision driving in nyc and multiply that by 5 and you have dr driving. i drove into santo domingo and road around and returned to the hotel in the afternoon. parked the car for the evening and hit the street. another of the hose chicas gave me a sob story about a fellow tourist that married her and never sent for her. i listened but wondered why me? when i made no eventual offer, she disappeared never to speak again. tourist and chicas walk the street all night and sit at the little discos and bars. again i did not make any attempts to score. i know, i am a little slow. next day i drove to punta cana just sight seeing. the highway was good until it went through each little city and then turned to 2 lanes. no pass lines in the highway mean nothing. you will soon learn and they will mean nothing to you either. found nothing in punta cana but private resorts. made the 3 hour return trip to the hotel. now i am ready for action after driving all day. i will not go into detail, but lets say i scored walking the beach at sundown. europa allows guest with the chicas cedulla (id).
the beach is a lagoon, do not expect to see a wave. most of the beach is on about 10 yards wide except at the ends. no one ever mentioned that. the little bars and restaurants are right on you and the 10 yard wide beach. after my score i walked the strip, not looking for anything new. the one i had was possessed. i was like a dead man walking. went back to hotel for sleep but again the damm partying noise 3am. next morning i was off to puerta plata. do not let your gas tank get below half a tank. there are not gas stations on every block here, especially outside the towns and cities. pretty nice highway most of the way. it also turns into 2 lane and goes through the little cities and santiago. i loved the sites and the huge mountains. motoconchos are everywhere with families, babies, you name it. they do as they please on all roads. buses and trucks as well. expect to be forced to stop or run off the road by either a bus or truck. just blow and keep going. got to puerta plata in 3 hours, and went to the beach in sousa. this is a real beach with strong waves and undercurrents. people were getting hurt left and right, and the waves were strip in both men and woman of their suits. it was great. many pretty chicas, young and not so young. stayed and played in the water for a couple of hours and noticed the time. i had to get on the road back to boca chica. you do not want to drive at night if you can help it. i made a big mistake. i wanted to dive back a different way through the mountains. beautiful nature drive throught the mountain villages. there are so many beautiful woman in these little villages. forget it unless you are fluent in spanish. their little shanty homes are 5 feet from the 2 lane road. their back door is a cliff. almost all the people in the villages just set out and watch and wave at the cars going by. there is no electricity up here.. well the highway turned into a dirt road and the connecting highways , also dirt roads not being marked turned into disaster. the sun went down and it got dark, and i said many prayers. it was so dark and these people are like owls in the blackness. the motorconchoes with no lights with families on them, kids playing , people walking and talking in total blackness. you look at the sky and you see every star and solar system every discovered and some that are not. your headlights disappear into total blackness after about 10 feet in front of the car. you can only drive a 20-30mph because you can’t see. well after 8 hours driving on what should have been a 3.5 hour return drive i got back to boca chica. now you know why you keep the tank close to full. the car had 3 inches of dirt and mud on it. needless to say i needed company. another score and happy to go to sleep. needless to say, no partying wok me up this night. fast forward to my last day. i scraped the mud off and returned the rental car. i used 3 tanks of gas at about $2000 dr pesos total gas. no new damage. the reps appeared surprised, especially since i had put about 1500 miles on the car. took a taxi from airport back to hotel $22 usd. my last night was going to be special somehow. i found 2 pretty chicas, figured out how to say what i wanted , gave the 2000 dr peso and was in hog heaven. i had to tell these woman , enough! uncle!, uncle, uncle!. i loved it! had to get up at 4 am for a 6:30 am flight. the dominicans were just ending their party. its this way every night. just a bit slower on sunday. well i get in the pre arranged taxi and head back to the airport. true enough they did not ask for the tourist card. i was told 5 days was not enough time to require a tourist card even though you still buy one. well i have great memories and i will return. i am also taking spanish classes now. thanks to all the veterans and your input. i would not have gone to boca chica if not for your details and guidance. hope this is helpful to other newbies or rookies. if you have questions i might be able to answer. hope this is helpful. sorry no chica pictures, only in my mine. but believe me boca chica is not dead, it may not be what it use to be as the veterans say but it was plenty for me!
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.
Damn' Griot!! You did a lot of traveling for a 5-day trip.
Nice Report,
Helpmann :)
Griot,
I can't for the life of me understand why you would want to drive to the 3 corners of the island and return to Boca Chica the same day. If your going to travel that much, why not stay overnight?
One thing I'll say is that you are certainly gutsy traveling those roads alone at night, especially since you don't speak Spanish.
Hats off to you, good report.
First I want to thank all the veteran posters here on this site. I am a rookie and have never posted anything, I have stayed in the shadows, took notes and learned. Based off information I received on this site , I had a great time.
.....you are a rookie, never posted anything, have stayed in the shadows but took notes and learned and based on information you received on this site had a great time............
You forgot to mention that you then rewarded all of us with a brilliant report! :)
Great stuff Griot! You made the trip had the "pelotas" to travel pretty much the entire country (even at night and with little Spanish) and reported back in a detailed and entertaining way! Thank you very much!
cheers............
Where is Boca in conjunction with Santo Domingo? How far?
Where is Boca in conjunction with Santo Domingo? How far?
Boca Chica is 30 minutes east of Santo Domingo by car.
Grand Pollo
05-16-06, 01:56
And if you fly into SDQ it is only about 10 km from the airport, US$18 for a taxi.
El Cubanito
05-30-06, 18:14
Hi I will be staying at the Jaraqua Hotel from June 4 to June 8th. Will be there on a business trip. I like top quality, sorry, but that is the way that I am. Would like to get into a 8' or 9's quality stuff. Where in Santo Domingo is the best place to score. What Casita have this kinf of qulity. Should I go to nera Boca Chica? Please inform.
El Cubanito
Grand Pollo
05-31-06, 04:52
Of late and even at its peak in the past, to get 8's and 9's in Boca Chica you need to find 4 2's. Or 3 3's, etc. The capital and the casas there still have OK girls. Way too much money though.
Straight Shooter
05-31-06, 05:00
Of late and even at its peak in the past, to get 8's and 9's in Boca Chica you need to find 4 2's. Or 3 3's, etc. The capital and the casas there still have OK girls. Way too much money though.You hit the nail squarely on its head with your post. I was in el capital y Boca Chica 2 times this past year and I feel the same way. My advice to El Cubanito is to pick up the free lancers hanging out in the Jaragua Casino. Please do not support Remingtons despite the fact there are some modelos working there. I express this for all the reasons previously stated on the Dominican board.
Grand Pollo
06-01-06, 02:30
To aid him with finding the casino the hotel is the Jaragua not the jaguar.
Member #2128
06-17-06, 08:44
Wow. This BC thread is dead!
I really want to get in touch with the Hotel El Candil. Anyone have an email address or website that's currently workable....or is BC just "old news"?
I was there two years ago, and while the town of BC was not as "upscale" as lovely downtown Sosua, I loved the scene on the beach and in that little park during the day.
Funny, butg no one ever seems to comment that most tourist places in BC are run by Italians and in Sosua by Germans. Does anyone agree? Maybe I guess I just like Italian food!
Anyway, if anyone has the email or website (with email) for El Candil, it would be much appreciated. Thanks!
#2128
Straight Shooter
06-17-06, 09:01
Wow. This BC thread is dead!
I really want to get in touch with the Hotel El Candil. Anyone have an email address or website that's currently workable....or is BC just "old news"?
I was there two years ago, and while the town of BC was not as "upscale" as lovely downtown Sosua, I loved the scene on the beach and in that little park during the day.
Funny, butg no one ever seems to comment that most tourist places in BC are run by Italians and in Sosua by Germans. Does anyone agree? Maybe I guess I just like Italian food!
Anyway, if anyone has the email or website (with email) for El Candil, it would be much appreciated. Thanks!
#2128Residencial El Candil
Calle El Candil No. 2, Esq. 20 de Diciembre
809-523-4252 / 4253
809-523-4232/fax
res.candil@BocaChicaBeach.net
www.comdata.nl/hotel-boca-chica-candil
Member #2128
06-17-06, 09:19
My bad!
I started to feel guilty about asking such a basic question on the board here, remembering what I think about when some dim bulb asks a basic FAQ question that's been answered 100x already. So I started clicking backwards and actually reading some of the "old" stuff.
Thanks HELPMANN! You are my hero. On 08-07-05 (nine pages back) you gave a great summary of the best places to stay in BC....and all their websites and contact info, PLUS a goddamned map! El Candil was among them.
Sorry for jumping the gun here and showing you'all that my first instinct is to be a lazy f***.
Most information you need is right here on the past posts, you just have to make an effort to look for it!
BC here I come! Put the pizza in the oven!
#2128
Thanks HELPMANN! You are my hero. On 08-07-05 (nine pages back) you gave a great summary of the best places to stay in BC....and all their websites and contact info, PLUS a goddamned map! El Candil was among them. No problem. If you have questions, feel free to post on ISG or send me a PM.
Cheers!
Helpmann :)
Hello everyone,
I still haven't received my confirmation email from Europa in Sosua so trying to keep my options open. Might go to Boca Chica, just wondering if there are any good discos / clubs/bars around El Candil / Hamaca.
I would appreciate any tips and insight.
Thank you
Hello everyone,
I still haven't received my confirmation email from Europa in Sosua so trying to keep my options open. Might go to Boca Chica, just wondering if there are any good discos / clubs/bars around El Candil / Hamaca.
I would appreciate any tips and insight.
Thank you
The discos are better in Sosua than Boca Chica. Nevertheless, I talked with a girl this morning who told me that Cosmos Disco (the best disco in Boca Chica) opened up this week.
-Helpmann :)
Member #2128
06-17-06, 18:48
Thanks for jumping in and helping out so quickly!
I cut and pasted your post into my own mini DR GUIDE, so I'll have the good information and contact numbers found here at my finger tips.
I'll be in BC/SD for 6 days (second trip) and will post my story when I return!
Thanks again.
#2128
Thanks for the info.
Since It would seem that nightlife is much better on the northern cost I might stick to Peurto Plata or Sosua. Thanks for the insight.
Myself
Please advise. I am considering a long weekend trip to the DR this weekend. I am concerned that because of the 4th of July holiday, there will be big, drunken crowds. Not an idea situation as I plan to rent a car, do some driving and select hotels along the way.
Should I be concerned?
Thanks.
Please advise. I am considering a long weekend trip to the DR this weekend. I am concerned that because of the 4th of July holiday, there will be big, drunken crowds. Not an idea situation as I plan to rent a car, do some driving and select hotels along the way.
Should I be concerned?
Thanks.
Driving in the DR is always a risky thing to do but also remember that 4th of July is an American Holiday and not a dominican holiday. I do not think it is something that you should be concerned about.
Please advise. I am considering a long weekend trip to the DR this weekend. I am concerned that because of the 4th of July holiday, there will be big, drunken crowds. Not an idea situation as I plan to rent a car, do some driving and select hotels along the way.
Should I be concerned?
Thanks.
I'm in DR (Boca Chica / Santo Domingo) this weekend and I'm driving. I've been driving since trip #3 and so far no fatalities. Still....
Drive at Your Own Risk!!
Helpmann :)
Driving in the DR is always a risky thing to do but also remember that 4th of July is an American Holiday and not a dominican holiday. I do not think it is something that you should be concerned about.I have driven in several Cental American countries so I know to expect the unexpected. I just thought that the holiday would bring some roving bands of American vacationers. But, I guess that most would want to spent this holiday in the USA. Thanks for the responses. I will try to pay back with some nice pics. I am leaving in a few hours.
Grand Pollo
07-01-06, 02:16
It is not the American tourists you need to worry about - the Dominicans are terrible, careless, often impaired on the wrong side of the road types of drivers. On bad roads.
My last 2 trips to BC. I've come to several affirmations when dealing with the girls here.Several jewels have been dropped in my previous post but I just wanted to give a little info about the current scene.This should all be common sense but...
1st.Bare in mind that who you are,look and sound like DO MATTER. They may not be the definitive factor here but trust me when I say this.If you are in shape (at least for your age) and speak Spanish well enough,money becomes less of an issue.My Spanish is equates to that of a 10th grade vocabulary but is very functional.People in town quickly take note of this and are less incline to to try and get over on you.
2nd.Realize that you are a consumer and therefore a source of income. NOT a potential boyfriend.STOP wifin' up these chicks and lettin em run the show.If they didnt need you they wouldnt be in the disco in the first place.STOP overpaying.1000 pesos is a round number that always works for me.I prefer the good lookin girls.They can usually be had for 800-1200 depending on services needed,time of day,customer availability etc.Please take these factors into consideration.
3rd.Be straighfoward yet respectful to the girls.Trust me.They CAN WILL AND DO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.If u suck in bed 8 girls will know by the next day. If your a mean bastard the same.If Your good in bed and "tipped", well you get the picture.
4th.You owe no explanations.Dont let girls pull a guilt trip with you and lock you into dating them on your stay.Some of us prefer this and thats fine. However I have noticed a disporportinate number of dudes going through this.Be prepared to respectfully blow them off as quickly as they would you.It takes a trip or three to develop this mentallity so start practicing now.
5th.Never give a girl money and expect change if she has to leave your sight.I DONT CARE HOW MUCH U THINK U TRUST HER.
Last trip I had 5 girls in 4 days. Did not pay for 3.One girls attitude was bad after I took to long to bust off. Not because she was fed up but for fear that el jefe would report her and her bogus cedula to authorities because it was going on 8 in the morning.Not wanting to risk the job security of my good security accomplice i granted her departure and gave her 900 for her 2 hrs. she apoligized and thanked me.Had I not applied the preceding 1-5 it probably would have went down a lot differently.The next night there were 5 girls who wanted me. They all sat with me at La Criolla while I played the jukebox and took my pick.Michelle from Latina Lust wanted to do me for "free". She said she had always heard good things about me. I didnt take her up on the offer. Instead I left w a cute 20 year old who wanted me to go bareback. DONt DO IT. I ounce brushed my head aginst some DR pumpum and caught chlamydia.Those Cuba Libres can ruin your life!
I hope this helps with regards of the "proper mentallity to have down there". I'll cover specifics next go round. Till then, Respect the game fellas!
Member #2128
07-06-06, 15:58
REPORT #1
I´ve always read those reports where some monger is sitting at an internet cafe in some pussy paradise reporting from the front. YOU ARE THERE! It´s all happening as we speak! Now I get my shot. Here´s what´s happening...
Arrived in BC day before yesterday on a flight from JFK delayed by two hours. In spite of the delay Guisseppe from El Candil (thanks Gladiator!) was there waving a sign with my name on it and we were off. Great guy, Guissppe. Hé´s the owner of the establishment and he´s at the airport picking guys up (not the way it sounds!). If you stay more than 4 days he´ll provide the service which is a good one, worth about 20USD when you consider the taxi fare.
It was about 7PM when we arrived and I unpacked and headed out for some dinner and exploration. Since it was my second time here, I noticed that the DuArte was very quiet. A few bars with chicas calling out ¨"Where you from?" but the street was quiet compared to 2 years ago when I was there last. I find my way to the little parque at the end of town. I sit on a quiet bench under a street lamp. I was like a guppe at the end of a hook. In about 2 minutes two very young morena chicas sit down...¨"where you from?" but I´m not interested. Mind you, they were 18 and 20 and hot as hell, but they looked like high school girls and I´m a mature guy, not accustomed to actually hooking up with girls almost 30 years younger than me. Heck, I just got there and I didn´t have my "sea legs" yet. They finally leave, with me promising to see them the next day. I´m sitting for about a minute and the next one appears next to me. She´s a bit older, 26 years old to be exact and also morena, thin with all the right curves.
We speak for about 30 minutes in my broken Spanish and she doesn´t even mention the thing until I suggest we get a room. She agrees and we´re off after I suggest a 500 peso "regalo".
She shows me a basic room on DuArte for 300 pesos. It´s almost grim, but operable for our needs. She is totally enthusiastic, caliente and full of energy and readily available for all my naughty requests. Totally safe sex ALWAYS. When in the DR I always travel prepared with covers. Sin ropa she is even more attractive and I enjoy myself for about 40 minutes. We get dressed. I give her the 500 and then, in the true spirit of the puta, she ASKS FOR MORE. I say no. She insists for 100 more. I refuse. After a few words, she shrugs,frowns and walks out. What the hell. It was a good time while it lasted...and it lasted till I popped.
I stumble home, exhausted and fall into a deep sleep, waiting for the beautiful Dominican sunrise.....
#2128
Day 4 – Boca Chica
I left Puerto Plata about 8AM after dropping Vanessa in the city. I arrived in Boca Chica about 1PM and immediately found the Europa. I took a $35 room with air no TV. The girl at the reception was puzzled that I would not pay more for a TV room especially when I told her that I would pay more for a room without one. She didn’t get it. The rooms are simple and dumpy. The bed was terrible and the AC in the first room did not work so I had to switch. I ended up on the 3rd floor which was a pain due to the fact that I had become sick. I look back and thank my body for holding out during the several hour drive from the north, but now my digestive system was going to make itself known.
I did not enjoy my short time in Boca Chica. I will blame it on the illness that put me in the bathroom no less than 15 times that day. But, I also want to take the time to rant about BC. I hate the aggressive touts that speak English. In general I have no ill feeling about guides or touts that offer their assistance. But when they walk beside you down the street asking you question after question about where you live and what’s you name, they go to far. Next time one asks me “what you look’n for?”, I will have him help me find a store that sells jumbo cans of pepper spray and or stun guns. Then I will truly express my displeasure and disapproval of his methods.
I was disappointed at the prices at the bars for drinks. I should stop here because like I said, I think my perceptions were colored by my illness.
I am a trooper though, and late in the evening, after a bottle of Pepto Bismo and a couple of short naps, I selected a girl off the streets and took her upstairs. We were in bed doing a little BBBJ and petting when my illness reared its head. I raced to the bathroom to have fluids rush out of my body at alarming rates. After recovering, I threw 500 at her and told her to leave. It was a terrible end to a terrible day in Boca Chica.
The next day, my illness had subsided to the point that I was able to return my rental car and take my flight back in comfort.
In summary and in my opinion in the DR, the north is “where it’s at”. And my next short visit will be in the Puerto Plata / Sosua area. If I had more time, I would spend it driving around the small towns in the center of the country. I believe that there are rewards there for the adventurous traveler with adequate time.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Member #2128
07-07-06, 16:48
Damn! Verde you got my sympathy. Sounds like you´re in an awful state.
However, I agree with you about the asshole guys who speak English. I´ve meet enough of them in 2 days to last for my lifetime. They won´t go away. I just keep saying ¨no interesante, gracias¨ until after, maybe 10 full minutes of them pestering you about how they can "help" you, they finally just ask for 50, then 20 pesos to eat or for their mother, or some other bullshit. It´s part of the scene and one that must be endured, if you want to be here, like other unpleasant parts.
Another response to Verde. I stayed at the Europa first time I came and agree again with his accurate assessment. The place is a freaking dump! And at night, the noise from DuArte (the main drag) is all night long and loud---motocoches screaming by, men yelling at women, women yelling at men, knife fights, etc. Everything but a terrorist attack. That ain´t happening here. I´m at El Candil. It´s up the hill a bit, about 2 long blocks, but quiet for the most part and well run, clean, hot water, good air conditioning, a little coffee bar and breakfast place, pleasant Italian proprietors. No complaints!
Now to the pussy. Second day, like a thief returning to the scene of the crime, I went to the parque again after a late breakfast and a run to the bank. I stroll in and first chica I see is a hottie---Carina, a thin little black morena about 20 years old with a tiny bubble butt and a full C cup. I notice the prominent nipples pushing against her top. I sit, we talk for 10 minutes and we´re off for 1000 pesos. The shithole room from the night before seems to be closed in the day, so she takes me to the other place, the 500 peso (15 USD) room WITH AIRCONDITIONING, which is just down the street (DuArte). It´s a little second floor hotel called COCHELA and is a world of difference. The room is small, but real clean and fresh and the AC is very cool. Couldn´t be nicer and more pleasant!
So now I´m into this thing for about $50 bucks, quite high, but WTF. We get into the room and the chica pulls off her top to reveal the most beautiful pair of black tetas, I´ve seen that were not in a porno picture. Areola about 2 to 3 inches wide, with thick nipples almost an inch long. I asked if she had a baby, but no. At least she said no. When I began to play with them, she grabbed her tit and held them out for me. She seemed to like them played with.
The kitty was fat with a big ass clit and I had a ball. Tight little bubble ass. The kind that´s on a pair of narrow hips on a tiny girl. You know what I´m talking about? Damn it was good.
About an hour later we´re saying good by and I´m promising to see her again, right!
More to come...
#2128
Grand Pollo
07-08-06, 04:05
Note the parque chicas are easily had with a little effort (especially them) for around RD$400 or so vs. the RD$1000 which not surprisingly they accepted, or the girl you mention did. Hold out for less, it is quote easy.
Note Duarte is not DuArte, he was the founder of the country vs. this spelling which makes him sound like a French guy.
I cannot imagine adding $US15 for a room when you can bring girls back to El Candil. Those rooms used to be around RD$100, who negotiated the price?
Hobby Addict
07-09-06, 06:44
How are the current "El Caucho" in-house chicas.
Sukhumvitter
07-10-06, 10:18
An interesting article about female sex tourists:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article1168172.ece
Member #2128
07-11-06, 06:09
yes pollo, the 1000 was too high for the market. i got into the bargaining soon enough for a smaller "regalo" and found that i could keep the ball in play for as little as 500 and no more that 700. yes. i like the game...and like to play with the price, but i do want to keep the smiles on the faces and am not interested in treating the hobby like buying a used car. that's me. everyone has their style and that's mine! i don't get into anyone's face for playing it there way.
nothing worthwhile was going on in the parque, so cruising the beach i found "sharon" and her little friend, a light skinned thin dominicana with heavy oversized tits for her size, who stood behind her, like her child! sharon said she was 18 and she seemed timid, but i went for it anyway. she asked (through sharon) for 1000, but i countered with 700 and we were off. she kept herself covered with a towel after a shower, until i peeled it off. she was timid and had a hard time relaxing and gettlng into it. however, once she lay back and i was loosening up the tight little pussy, i noticed several large genital warts at the top of her pussy lips. i've had them removed from my ball sack so i know what they look like.
ok...that was it for this session. i took the cbj and called it day!
duarte at night is full of low end putas calling out "what's your name?" "where you from?" it makes walking down the street a real low end experience. nothing there worth paying....i think it's the fact that business is so slow for them. not many mongers visable to the naked eye at this time. hot! summertime! sweating your ass off during the day! even the beach is slow on breezes...
next morning it is good-by bc...and off to santo domingo....look for the surprise report to come in that section!
Victor Lazlo
07-11-06, 07:03
For Member #2128, Helpmann or anyone in Boca Chica recently. Was there any truth to those rumors about Cosmos disco reopening? Or were they just that.....rumors. I was hoping it might help bring Duarte nightlife back up to where it was a couple of years ago.
For Member #2128, Helpmann or anyone in Boca Chica recently. Was there any truth to those rumors about Cosmos disco reopening? Or were they just that.....rumors. I was hoping it might help bring Duarte nightlife back up to where it was a couple of years ago.
I was there a week ago and Cosmos was closed! There a lot of whispers about it reopening, but nothing has happened yet.
-Helpmann :)
Tom Gueguen
07-11-06, 13:00
I was there a week ago and Cosmos was closed! There a lot of whispers about it reopening, but nothing has happened yet.
-Helpmann :)Hello Helpmann,
What about a little report about your last trip in BC?
It's always a pleasure to read your adventures there.
Sure I am not the only looking forward to.
How are the current "El Caucho" in-house chicas.The in house chicas I rate a 7-7.5 for the better girls there. Most of the girls seemed to be really into the GFE.
On the weekend the better girls are onsite, the only thing is that the girls are not allowed to approach you. You must approach them.
Hello Helpmann,
What about a little report about your last trip in BC?
It's always a pleasure to read your adventures there.
Sure I am not the only looking forward to.
In reference to the Dominican Republic, there isn't much to say that hasn't been already written by me or someone else.
There are a lot of places one can travel too; however, the DR really is something special.
-Helpmann :)
Hello All,
I am just back from Boca and I have to say life does exist in BC. Cosmos Disco now renamed to Number One was open Saturday June 24 for eactly one night. Flyers were given out all over Boca Chica and free admission was given to all. The grand opening was fantastic with a live merengue band and the usual cast of characters. Unfortunately, the disco was closed by the Police the following day for not paying the proper "taxes" or so everyone was told. I'm sure that the owners will get wise, pay-off the correct people and re-open shortly.
I am emerging from the shadows again to do Boca Chica II Aug 3-7. No its not a concert or nothing, just my 2nd trip. I did much of the island in May and just had to setup a retun engagement. I drove the island last time, only 4 days this time, I don't know about the driving this time. Maybe we can do the Sosua vs Boca Chica thing. I have made no plans, if anyone else will be there on these dates and would like to hook up please pm me. I am not a veteran, but man I learned a lot in Boca Chica I. You can fine my report in the distinction category around May. I will probable stay in El Candil this time. I was in Europa last time, too noisy. By the way Spanish, whats that? I wing it, I am sure its funny to here but I get my point across. hope to here from those that will be there at that time even if its just to say Hola!
BlackSultan
07-16-06, 23:35
The in house chicas I rate a 7-7.5 for the better girls there. Most of the girls seemed to be really into the GFE.
On the weekend the better girls are onsite, the only thing is that the girls are not allowed to approach you. You must approach them.What is the going rate for chicas at el caucho for long term and short term? I am looking to do a long weekend their over Thanksgiving 2006.
What is the going rate for chicas at el caucho for long term and short term? I am looking to do a long weekend their over Thanksgiving 2006.Don't pay anymore than RD$1,000 for an all-nighter, she'll leave in the morning, but will return if you want her to.
Dtaylor1972
07-29-06, 09:40
Anyone know what the availability / price of generic Viagra / Cialis is in Boca Chica ?
Thanks
Victor Lazlo
07-29-06, 18:06
Generic Cialis (tadalafil 20mg) is sold in pharmacies in BC and elsewhere under the name LaPela. It comes in a package of two tablets for $RD100, or about $US3. I don't know about generic Viagra, hopefully someone else can fill us in.
Dtaylor1972
07-30-06, 08:56
Generic Cialis (tadalafil 20mg) is sold in pharmacies in BC and elsewhere under the name LaPela. It comes in a package of two tablets for $RD100, or about $US3. I don't know about generic Viagra, hopefully someone else can fill us in.That helps!
I'm concidering coming in for a few days - for a get-away.
I usually go to Lima, but due to the high airfares, and lack of VC time I am having to look elsewhere in unfarmiliar territory.
If speak spanish, and are looking for a change - try Peru!
Thanks!
just returned from boca chica for a long 4-day weekend. i chose not to be mobile this time after hearing of all the changes going on in mostly boca chica and sousa. that was probable a mistake. you only need a few hours a day in boca chica, not 4 whole days. also outside of the police making sure everything shut down at midnight doing the week and 2 a.m. on fri and sat, all appeared about the same as boca chica i in april. there were a few more police, not many.
i stayed at el candil. the crew over there cleaned so much i am surprised there is any paint on the wall. it is a very nice hotel. gated and secured 24 hours. no house chicas. i really recommend it. it was my 1st time staying there. very clean and quite, nice pool and excellent patio and a bar at poolside. nice exterior deco with a fountain flowing into the pool. i have to say i was impressed. the rooms are a nice size and have a small kitchenette, and mini refrigerator. the tv is only 12 or 13 inches so wear your magnification glasses. you will need it to see the free 24-hour adult channel. the chicas found it interesting, and you might learn a new move. monkey see, monkey do, the adult channel was showing an action scene on a table an in a chair, so i and my chica friend tested the apartment table and chair. yes there is a table and chair in the room. my bed crepe real loud. the damm veterans before me apparent had worn it out. but it survived another weekend. my room d-2 was 10 feet from the pool. they clean the pool every morning as well. the staff was nice, peter and the other owner are very helpful and friendly. he is from finland and both speak english and 3 or 4 other languages. stay at least 4 days and they will pick you up and return you to sd airport. a nice perk. no problem with chicas as long as they have id's. i really like the late night security guard. he always smiles and smirks when the chicas depart. i always tipped him just for the smiles and funny comments, some of which i did not understand but i am sure they were funny. peter has a security dog a big black terrier, i did not know better from watching him for 4 days i would think he was a human. he prances the estate like he owns the place. i guess he is a co-owner. he never bothers the guess except to look at you.
i arrived thur night, greeted by peter at the airport even though i was an hour and a half late. we got to the hotel and i hit the street. there is a quiet massage parlor across the street from el candil, decent looking chicas set outside and look at you. i don't know any details, i headed to duarte. chicas everywhere, no customers, only police and the motorconcho drivers. i am black so they can't immediately distinguish i was not a local, i don't tourist role dress. if i were white i probable would have been raped by all the bored chicas. hmmm that might have been fun. sounds like a role play for boca chica iii. the american disco has some nice chicas doing the week, better doing the weekend when the sd chica bombard the place. they set at tables outside and evaluate their prey. i forget the name of the other disco about 25 yards down duarte. it is more action packed. the chicas set inside there at the exterior bar. you have to past them to get to the interior bar and dance floor. its like "dead man walking" going through there alone. most will at lease wait until you stop or set to accost you. key don't stop if you want no attention. the better looking chicas are at the american disco , but these are respectable as well. no more burburas or whatever it was called. i was tired, and did not feel like negotiating. i just walked back down duarte until i saw half decent that required no effort and non expensive. i picked her up and made the 2-block track back up the hill to the candil. the hill is good exercise, tires the chicas out :-) and gets them warmed up. after 11 p.m. only my security friend is there to smile, look at your chica and take her id. he sets out there all night so do right by him. took care of business and tipped my friend when the chica left. friday was spent fighting tropical storm chris as it decided to stall and dissipate over the dr. room logged all day as the streets flooded and motorconchoes stalled trying to past through the sometime 2 feet of water. chris finally gave up about 4 pm and bc came alive. duarte drains well so little water remained. however the street before duarte does not and was a pool until the next day. condensing a bit as this is getting to long. pretty chicas after dark at american disco, again no customers. i think chris scared off everyone this weekend. it was great they were desperate. i chose a sd goddess who definitely was not all pro but knew her stuff, very friendly. she had a baby a year ago by what she thought was her new york american fiancée, he ain't been seen since. you animal!!! she mad sure i was pleased in everyway i wanted before she left. she only wanted 1000, i doubled that because of her genuine and caring. veterans, please forgive me! her body did not have blemish on it anywhere, and believe me it was thoroughly inspected! i looked but she would not be found the rest of my trip. my security friend was thoroughly impressed. sunday i walk the beach all the way from hamaca to the big marina, must be about 2 miles. i was expecting to see the airport soon. all resemblance of a beach ended for the most part but there are still people at this very old end by the marina. i returned and set in the park on duarte. you can watch the chicas and families as they get off the buses and walk the block or so to the beach and return. nice view if you are people watcher. at night again a lack of customers made it very easy for me to obtain a 20 year old with a body to kill for, she also did not appear to be a full pro but same as before great attitude, and a butt and body by stradivarius. i had to call timeout with her several times before i finally thru in the towel. i again gave her 1.5 times what she asked. am i on probation yet? she insisted i go back to the disco with her so she could buy name a drink and dance with me, which i did. she was like the energizer bunny and not much bigger. she spoke broken english. did i mention i don't hablar espanol! i called it a night and left the chicas. i don't want to see a female for a few days.
by the way i tried lapella, hated it! it only enhanced my arousal, yes you will increase in size, but it made the old orgasm 4 times as hard to achieve, and sometimes i just gave up. the chicas thought i had longevity, but i just could not get there! i will not use again unless i am already about to pop without it. it worked for about 1.5 until 2 days. you can buy it in boca chica at the farmacia at the foot of the hill on the same street the hotel el candil sets on going toward the beach, 1 block before duarte. 50 dom peso per pill. no problem like rush limbaugh brining the home, but again i only had 2 and they are smaller than an aspirin. well thats it for bc ii.
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Member #2128
08-09-06, 07:59
i loved griot's first report when he stayed in bc and drove all around the island in, what? three days? definitely a thrilling first!
now he's in bc for the second time and decides to stay put...and also to pay the girls 2000 pesos, when they ask for 1000. why? really? does he want them to "like" him more for the extra $32 usd? is an extra special beautiful female body (without those "blemishes")....worth more for an hour or two of pleasure than that of a pussy attached to a lesser body? griot, what's up with that?
no disrespect meant, but do you have some kind of wierd inferiority complex in, of all places, the domincan republic? where you say in your report that if you were white, you'd be "raped" while walking down the street? i'm guessing that means you'd be getting a lot more sexual attention? since it's really about the $$$, were you feeling the need to push more cash out there to get a better quality of attention?
i've heard the following expression that may apply here: there are no $200 hookers, there are only $200 johns.
at home, do you get the plumber's bill for fixing the toilet for let's say, $60...and give him $120 for a job well done? i'm guessing the answer is "no".
propina means "tip". an extra 100-200 pesos for fine service might be that. but to pay double? for no real reason? except that......(please fill in the blank).
ok. i'm finished. in the end, mr. griot gets to pay whatever he damn pleases and i have nothing of any importance or value to say about it! it's his money, his vacation, his choice. we all do what we do for our own twisted reasons.
and while i may sound like i'm "judging" him for paying twice what's being asked for, i'm not really....and i'm not "worried about the rates going up" because he paid more....but i am damn curious and maybe asking about why a guy would do that?
love the game.
#2128
(been to bc twice/mostly been there/done that)
I doubled that because of her genuine and caring. Veterans, please forgive me! Her body did not have blemish on it anywhere, and believe me it was thoroughly inspected! I looked but she would not be found the rest of my triStop doing this. Bothers and Italians (not all) ruin it with this type of “tipping”.. You had an ideal advantage in that you were the only CUSTOMER. I do mean customer because essentially that is what you are. Tipping is fine but paying twice for services? These girls can start thinking that this is close to the norm. Next thing you know 800 peso chicks will want 1200 and get upset if they don’t get it. Im not flaming you but you really need to read previous post. Hell read mine! Being black in DR has its advantages. Being White in DR has its advantages. Being German, Italian, etc. Let me rephrase that for the sake of accuracy. Many if not most Dominicans have African and European Ancestry.You are Americano in there eyes. My family is Jamaican but to them I’m just Americano. Fact of the matter is the only ethnicity that matters is Dinero. PM me guy. We can speak on how to get great service for good rates.1000-to1200 rates. In BC you can get it for even less! Oh yeah. BRUSH UP ON THE SPANISH. It shaves pesos off everytime. I always get at least 2 to 3 for free on a 5 day stay.You to can be like qurry!p.
no disrespect taken 2128. i expected to take a little heat for my actions. i accept reponsibility well, but i am also very strong and a leader not just a follower. my perspective is different. many of the pros have a non caring , show me the money attitude. that is fine, but i prefer human qualities. i prefer someone that at least pretends they care about me human to human. this is not easy for the girls to do, even to fake being with all the different guys and gals night to night. so i show my appreciation when they go above and beyond as the chisa i met this time did consistently. i don't feel it will inflate any cost, it is a supply and demand scenario, and if you are a good negotiator and the chica likes you then you are likly to meet at common ground.
i love latin and dominican woman and i still very much respect a woman who is deserving of that respect. i know many of these girls are mentally abused by both their clients and possible the true men in their lives. there are still a few of us who like no strings attached ses, but in a respectful context. so complex , no. respect , yes.
i am a avid people watcher and yes from all my observation european (white) tourist garner much more attention than a black person. as i said a lot of this is because the girls identify the skin color and features as tourist, not because of preference of thinking they will get more money. as a black person it is harder for them to id me as a tourist until i speak or look like i a lost or something. beleive me they are still watching regardless of skin color. the locals will know who is a tourist automatically because evryone knows everyone else, but many of the girls trave to boca chica.
your comment of "is an extra special beautiful female body (without those "blemishes")....worth more for an hour or two of pleasure than that of a pussy attached to a lesser body? griot, what's up with that?" oh hell yes!!!! i am a man of quality and substance and thats what i like. many of the girls reward me and compliment me for the quality of my body, so i do likewise. yes i am in very goo physical looking appearance. i can't run from one side of duarte to the other , but how cares! i look good :-)
in the us it is totally differnt standard, with poverty and the ability to earn a a decent living for anyone who is hard working. the opportunities are there, they are not avail in a poor countries with a poor education system for the most part. i choose to try to elevate people rateher than pull them down, so i reward in the dr, and for the most part in th us i never tip.
thanks for the inquiry!
i loved griot's first report when he stayed in bc and drove all around the island in, what? three days? definitely a thrilling first!
now he's in bc for the second time and decides to stay put...and also to pay the girls 2000 pesos, when they ask for 1000. why? really? does he want them to "like" him more for the extra $32 usd? is an extra special beautiful female body (without those "blemishes")....worth more for an hour or two of pleasure than that of a pussy attached to a lesser body? griot, what's up with that?
no disrespect meant, but do you have some kind of wierd inferiority complex in, of all places, the domincan republic? where you say in your report that if you were white, you'd be "raped" while walking down the street? i'm guessing that means you'd be getting a lot more sexual attention? since it's really about the $$$, were you feeling the need to push more cash out there to get a better quality of attention?
i've heard the following expression that may apply here: there are no $200 hookers, there are only $200 johns.
at home, do you get the plumber's bill for fixing the toilet for let's say, $60...and give him $120 for a job well done? i'm guessing the answer is "no".
propina means "tip". an extra 100-200 pesos for fine service might be that. but to pay double? for no real reason? except that......(please fill in the blank).
ok. i'm finished. in the end, mr. griot gets to pay whatever he damn pleases and i have nothing of any importance or value to say about it! it's his money, his vacation, his choice. we all do what we do for our own twisted reasons.
and while i may sound like i'm "judging" him for paying twice what's being asked for, i'm not really....and i'm not "worried about the rates going up" because he paid more....but i am damn curious and maybe asking about why a guy would do that?
love the game.
#2128
(been to bc twice/mostly been there/done that)
Sorry about the bad spelling in earlier post, was in a hurry to get back to work. Mr Curry I always say "To each their own is what it boils down to". A person who warrants quality will reward and show appreciation for the work and effort that goes into that quality. There are many chicas with the pop and fresh dough boy midsection, but few with the true coke bottle figure. Add to that a nice , caring and service oriented and pleasing attitude. What more can you ask for? The norm or the median is a sliding scale. If all the chicas see this as the norm it probable is and you may be the one fishing in a bucket of water. I very much doubt clients will pay off the scale consistently if it is not deserving or worthy. So the lower quality will still garner lower cost. Nothing stays the same forever my friend. You mentioned the attitude of the chicas and getting upset. You are making my point on quality and attitude. If the quality isn’t there, don't pay. So what, she gets an attitude. It’s a reality check for someone, either the client or the Chica is off base.
I am very versed on the previous post and the attitudes of the board. But as I said in a previous post I lead and make decisions on my own possible based on info from veterans here but I am not bound by it. I value their input. I have traveled all over the world, not for mongering. I don't consider myself a monger. I enjoy the fruits of the situation when they present themselves with the ladies and any other area for that point. I am not downing mongers, as I said to each their own.
We can agree on the advantages by race and the only color that matters to the Chicas is being green.
Thanks Curry for the training offer :-), but I prefer to be like Griot. If I am not dealing with quality I am a very avid negotiator, I do it for a living in corporate America. Might be able to show you a thing or 2, I am also a trained psychologist so I know a bit about the human psyche and how humans think and respond given certain stimuli or situations. I have a large Spanish vocabulary, its only the grammar / rules of the language I lack. I can say anything I want, it will not be grammatically correct but they understand. To your earlier point , the majority of what matters to the chicas in whets in your pocket, not your academic or linguistic aptitude. With Sex and physical attractiveness, no words at all have to be spoken, its called non verbal communication.
Its not always about the "Benjamin’s" my friend. I applaud your ability to get freebies, but that is not that important to me to further take advantage of Chica who most likely is already down in self worth and esteem or just social economically.
I omitted to state the SD goddess (no blemishes) was attempting to reward and thank me for buying her Chica friend a meal after I saw both of them eating off the same small meal plate. As best I could understand she had bus fare back to SD incase there were no clients, not money for 2 meals. I refused what was probable a freebie because of humanity. Was it just a sob story line, could be but I doubt it, they were not aware I was watching them. But either way, it’s not always about the money.
Griot
I doubled that because of her genuine and caring. Veterans, please forgive me! Her body did not have blemish on it anywhere, and believe me it was thoroughly inspected! I looked but she would not be found the rest of my triStop doing this. Bothers and Italians (not all) ruin it with this type of “tipping”.. You had an ideal advantage in that you were the only CUSTOMER. I do mean customer because essentially that is what you are. Tipping is fine but paying twice for services? These girls can start thinking that this is close to the norm. Next thing you know 800 peso chicks will want 1200 and get upset if they don’t get it. Im not flaming you but you really need to read previous post. Hell read mine! Being black in DR has its advantages. Being White in DR has its advantages. Being German, Italian, etc. Let me rephrase that for the sake of accuracy. Many if not most Dominicans have African and European Ancestry.You are Americano in there eyes. My family is Jamaican but to them I’m just Americano. Fact of the matter is the only ethnicity that matters is Dinero. PM me guy. We can speak on how to get great service for good rates.1000-to1200 rates. In BC you can get it for even less! Oh yeah. BRUSH UP ON THE SPANISH. It shaves pesos off everytime. I always get at least 2 to 3 for free on a 5 day stay.You to can be like qurry!p.
El Austriaco
08-09-06, 20:24
My perspective is different. Many of the pros have a non caring , show me the money attitude. That is fine, but I prefer human qualities. I prefer someone that at least pretends they care about me human to human. This is not easy for the girls to do, even to fake being with all the different guys and gals night to night. So I show my appreciation when they go above and beyond as the chisa I met this time did consistently. I don't feel it will inflate any cost, it is a supply and demand scenario, and if you are a good negotiator and the chica likes you then you are likly to meet at common ground. !
I am not a frequent poster on the BC board anymore considering that I haven´t been there in a couple of years, but I did spend a total of one month in BC on two different occasions in late 2003 and early 2004.
As you correctly predicted, some people felt compelled to comment on your "overpaying/overtipping", and I wanted to chime in on this, too. Some chide you for driving up the price for everyone, which is something that I don´t agree on (for me, every negotiation with a girl is a one-time event involving too many factors to mention, and regardless of what you pay, no one else is compelled to pay the same, so....). But there is one factor that I wanted to point out to you regarding "excessive tipping", and I think that paying between one-and-a-half and two times the agreed-upon rate clearly comes under that definition for me.
You see it as generosity, as a way to express your respect for services well rendered? Do the girls see it like that, or see you in that light? No, they don't. They will see you as a sucker who likes to give money away for nothing. And once you have that reputation, you might create YOURSELF more problems than you can imagine.
Don't worry about problems you create others. Worry about problems you create yourself. Let´s see:
Girls will stick to you like poison ivy, making it difficult to get rid of them. Overtipping might just be like tying the strings yourself you don't want to see attached. Everyone will expect generous tips, drinks, etc. from you, whether they provide a valuable service or not (since these girls maintain a tight-knit network, and as you mentioned, BC is a small place where everyone knows everyone). Even worse, your sexual experience may suffer... since you like to give 2000 pesos for a good experience, well, 1000 pesos for nothing sounds pretty good, too (in some girl´s thinking). Treat the girls nice and with respect? Yes, of course, great. But just don't treat them too well. Don´t spoil them.
Earlier, I was like you, too, and to tell you the truth, I had to learn the hard way, too. The girls you are dealing with in BC mostly come from a very poor barrio-type background where there is nothing worse than giving away money for free. I´ve seen girls fight tooth and nails for 300 pesos, imagine what they are willing to do for 1000 pesos. Giving them 1000 pesos as a tip will NEVER EVER be interpreted as a sign of generosity or respect, but always a sign of SUCKERDOM. You can bet on it. The ONLY way to get their respect (rather than maintaining your own respect towards yourself, the way you define it) is to insist on fair value for fair money.
In other words: paying or tipping excessively will NOT get you better service, but actually WORSE service in the long run in a third-world P4P setting.
Many of the girls reward me and compliment me for the quality of my body, so I do likewise. Yes I am in very goo physical looking appearance. I can't run from one side of Duarte to the other , but how cares! I look good :-)
Once of the things I've learned throughout my "mongering career" is that, unless a girl has really nothing to gain from saying something, I should NOT take EVERYTHING coming out of her mouth at face value. By most accounts, I am a decent-looking and nice guy, but I am very reluctant to believe whatever a P4P provider tells me about my looks, charms, manners, intelligence, sexual performance or whatever simply because she has a very monetary interest in telling me these things, whether trying to pick me up in the first place or once we hit the sack. A wise guy once said "Believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see", or something like that. Please take everything you hear in a P4P environment with a grain of salt or two... hell, skip the 1000 Peso tip and buy the whole bag of salt!
In other words, be careful as to what you regard as "genuine" in a P4P environment like BC. Even more so when you speak no Spanish. The only thing genuine about it might be "genuinely good acting".
In the US it is totally differnt standard, with poverty and the ability to earn a a decent living for anyone who is hard working. The opportunities are there, they are not avail in a poor countries with a poor education system for the most part. I choose to try to elevate people rateher than pull them down, so I reward in the DR, and for the most part in th US I NEVER tip.
I used to connect the two issues (povery as a result lack of opportunities/prostitution) in the same romantic way you seem to do... until I learned otherwise, including in BC. In and by itself, elevating poor people who have never had an opportunity is a very noble goal, and there are many venues you can explore to attain this goal. I just don´t think it is particularly appropriate with hookers like in BC. One fact is that there is lots of poverty in many countries in the world, and the vast majority of poor women do not go on to seek a career in prostitution. So the assumption that lack of opportunities necessarily leads to prostitution is simply wrong. Fact No. 2, based on my own experience, a very small part of the funds (or tips) you pay to a hooker are dedicated to solving the problem that pushed them into hooking in the first place (poverty, single motherhood), while a much larger part goes to unnecessary things like cell phones, drugs, alcohol, fancy clothing, etc.
You wanna help poor people? There are lots of things you can do, through donations, sponsorships, for example. Unfortunately, I have come to the conclusion that if you really want to elevate poor people, being overly generous to hookers I meet in person is generally the worst way to do it. If buying leche for a poor child makes you feel good, sponsor a child abroad.
Based on your behavior you describe (paying way beyond not only common rates, but agreed-upon rates) and the terminology you use in explaining it (caring, human qualities, respect, elevating people, appreciation), it seems to me you somehow feel guilty about P4P, with 1000 Pesos being something like a self-imposed "guilt tax". I think this is a common problem for guys mongering abroad: it was for me, BTW. I don´t know, just a hunch of mine. Could this be your case?
You know, in many respects, I agree with your thinking and your philosophy, Griot, and I actually like it. If anything, it shows ethics and moral leadership, yes. There is only one problem: it is a first-world thinking that works well in the first world, but not in a third-world country like in the DR, and even less so with BC hookers. One thing is for sure, the BC chicas maintain a third-world thinking, regardless how long they have been hooking and how much contact they have had with Westerners like us. Generally, they are girls with a street-wise attitude that they picked up on some of worst streets around. Ever been to Los Guandules in Santo Domingo? I have, so I should know... from first-hand experience. Once again, I like your perspective, but I think that it just might be skewed insofar as it applies to BC and the girls there.
Just to avoid any possible misunderstanding from the get-go, I am not writing this to be antagonistic, not at all, but rather as some friendly advice or simply food for thought from a fellow monger: advice that may be pondered or disregarded as you please.
Safe, happy, and troublefree mongering!
EA
If nothing more I guess I brought life to the BC board. El Austriaco you are more long winded than I. I will be breif because I have expressed most of my views priviously. But I will hit on the areas you bring up that I have not addressed. I do not really care how the girls view the tips, I do what I did for me because it shows how I feel. I am not looking for a love connection, relationship or anything outside of the services agree upon. How they see me is their business. I don't live my life as a puppet trying to please others or be seen in a positive lite. I just do what I feel is right and all the other crap falls by the wayside. I don't see it as an ongoing problem, because I have control of me and my wallet. Also 3 of the 4 chicas this past weekend saw me again and what I got was a smile, hug and a kiss on the cheek. No request for repeats or pressure to be with them again. I am sure it would have been the same with the 4th if I had seen her again. Kind of shoots your theory.
Also I do not worry about others in the sense you state I am creating problems for them. As you so eloquently stated early in your post "for me, every negotiation with a girl is a one-time event involving too many factors to mention, and regardless of what you pay, no one else is compelled to pay the same, so.). " This is true the others you mention are responsible for themselves and their own. If they get freebies that is great. I agree with the girls being tight amoungst each other. This reflects more in the negative than the positive. They will definitely black list you for the negative. But, If one has a "good thing" she is likly to keep it to herself than tell the world and loose out. Not a issue with me again I am in control. How do you tie my sexual experience to what I decide to pay after its over? I miss your point on this one. The woman here are no different in attitude than any other woman in poor countries I have visited, even the poor of the US. Here again what the girls do with the money once they have earned it is their business. I don't care if they go to their Shanty home or get in a Beamer and head back to a Condo in the Colonial Zone of SD. Your respect scenario / example is a little cloudy. I don't get your point. But respect is something that is given freely, It is a feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation. How is your insisting on fair market value getting me respect? No thank you, I'd rather keep the smile, hug and a kiss on the cheek that I got for the 3 Chicas when they saw me again. I think that is a example of the definition of respect from above.
Paying more will get me worst service in a 3rd world country? Is this different from in a superpower country or any other country? Speaking from my personal experience, it has not been that way. If I were to have wanted to get with the girls again, you honestly think I would have gotten worst service. I don't think so. The next monger comes alone with some BS lines and demeaning attitude toward them, that will be your worst service.
Again I don't see myself as a monger so I have no career aspiration as you appear to state about yourself. But regardless of what the Chica says or feels, it has no bearing on me or my wallet. Actions are what speaks bounds, as long as you can walk the walk with me, you never have to utter a word and get the same treatment from me. I did not get where I am by being gullible. I did not fall off the turnip truck the day before I went to BC.
You keep saying how you use to be. I am not you, this is how I choose to be and stay. No disrespect intended but I don't see any good additional points you make that warrants addressing. You seem to bounce back and forth on both sides of the fence. Much of your post appears to be speaking from your own experience and transposing you onto me. 1st world, 2nd world, 3rd world, superpower, whats right and good in one is the same in all. Perceptions are what change, not the act. Maybe you should view people as a person and not a socio economic group. Its about survivial my friend, the females in my family and your family would likly respond the same if they were in the situation of these woman. Thanks for sharing but I again rather like who and how I am, and the results I have gotten with being this way around the world.
I am not a frequent poster on the BC board anymore considering that I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I did spend a total of one month in BC on two different occasions in late 2003 and early 2004.
As you correctly predicted, some people felt compelled to comment on your "overpaying/overtipping", and I wanted to chime in on this, too. Some chide you for driving up the price for everyone, which is something that I don't agree on (for me, every negotiation with a girl is a one-time event involving too many factors to mention, and regardless of what you pay, no one else is compelled to pay the same, so.). But there is one factor that I wanted to point out to you regarding "excessive tipping", and I think that paying between one-and-a-half and two times the agreed-upon rate clearly comes under that definition for me.
You see it as generosity, as a way to express your respect for services well rendered? Do the girls see it like that, or see you in that light? No, they don't. They will see you as a sucker who likes to give money away for nothing. And once you have that reputation, you might create YOURSELF more problems than you can imagine.
Don't worry about problems you create others. Worry about problems you create yourself. Let's see:
Girls will stick to you like poison ivy, making it difficult to get rid of them. Everyone will expect generous tips, drinks, etc. From you, whether they provide a valuable service or not (since these girls maintain a tight-knit network, and as you mentioned, BC is a small place where everyone knows everyone). Even worse, your sexual experience may suffer. Since you like to give 2000 pesos for a good experience, well, 1000 pesos for nothing sounds pretty good, too (in some girl's thinking). Treat the girls nice and with respect? Yes, of course, great. But just don't treat them too well. Don't spoil them.
Earlier, I was like you, too, and to tell you the truth, I had to learn the hard way, too. The girls you are dealing with in BC mostly come from a very poor barrio-type background where there is nothing worse than giving away money for free. I've seen girls fight tooth and nails for 300 pesos, imagine what they are willing to do for 1000 pesos. Giving them 1000 pesos as a tip will NEVER EVER be interpreted as a sign of generosity or respect, but always a sign of SUCKERDOM. You can bet on it. The ONLY way to get their respect (rather than maintaining your own respect towards yourself, the way you define it) is to insist on fair value for fair money.
In other words: paying or tipping excessively will NOT get you better service, but actually WORSE service in the long run in a third-world P4P setting.
Once of the things I've learned throughout my "mongering career" is that, unless a girl has really nothing to gain from saying something, I should NOT take EVERYTHING coming out of her mouth at face value. By most accounts, I am a decent-looking and nice guy, but I am very reluctant to believe whatever a P4P provider tells me about my looks, charms, manners, intelligence, sexual performance or whatever simply because she has a very monetary interest in telling me these things, whether trying to pick me up in the first place or once we hit the sack. A wise guy once said "Believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see", or something like that. Please take everything you hear in a P4P environment with a grain of salt or two. Hell, skip the 1000 Peso tip and buy the whole bag of salt!
In other words, be careful as to what you regard as "genuine" in a P4P environment like BC. Even more so when you speak no Spanish.
I used to connect the two issues (povery and a lack of opportunities) in the same romantic way you seem to do. Until I learned otherwise, including in BC. In and by itself, elevating poor people who have never had an opportunity is a very noble goal, and there are many venues you can explore to attain this goal. I just don't think it is particularly appropriate with hookers like in BC. One fact is that there is lots of poverty in many countries in the world, and the vast majority of poor women do not go on to seek a career in prostitution. So the assumption that lack of opportunities necessarily leads to prostitution is simply wrong. Fact No. 2, based on my own experience, a very small part of the funds (or tips) you pay to a hooker are dedicated to solving the problem that pushed them into hooking in the first place (poverty, single motherhood), while a much larger part goes to unnecessary things like cell phones, drugs, alcohol, fancy clothing, etc.
You wanna help poor people? There are lots of things you can do, through donations, sponsorships, for example. Unfortunately, I have come to the conclusion that if you really want to elevate poor people, being overly generous to hookers I meet in person is generally the worst way to do it. If buying leche for a poor child makes you feel good, sponsor a child abroad.
Based on your behavior you describe (paying way beyond not only common rates, but agreed-upon rates) and the terminology you use in explaining it (caring, human qualities, respect, elevating people, appreciation), it seems to me you somehow feel guilty about P4P, with 1000 Pesos being something like a self-imposed "guilt tax". I think this is a common problem for guys mongering abroad: it was for me, BTW. I don't know, just a hunch of mine. Could this be your case?
You know, in many respects, I agree with your thinking and your philosophy, Griot, and I actually like it. If anything, it shows ethics and moral leadership, yes. There is only one problem: it is a first-world thinking that works well in the first wirld, but not in a third-world country like in the DR, and even less so with BC hookers. One thing is for sure, the BC chicas maintain a third-world thinking, regardless how long they have been hooking and how much contact they have had with Westerners like us. Generally, they are girls with a street-wise attitude that they picked up on some of worst streets around. Ever been to Los Guandules in Santo Domingo? I have, so I should know. From first-hand experience. Once again, I like your perspective, but I think that it just might be skewed insofar as it applies to BC and the girls there.
Just to avoid any possible misunderstanding from the get-go, I am not writing this to be antagonistic, not at all, but rather as some friendly advice or simply food for thought from a fellow monger: advice that may be pondered or disregarded as you please.
Safe, happy, and troublefree mongering!
EA
El Austriaco
08-09-06, 23:44
Since my response seems to have been too long-winded, I restate my points:
1. Overtipping/overpaying is regarded as throwing money away in a third-world country. Generally, it does NOT get you respect from poor people, just greed (which might be disguised as smiles, BTW). It may be counterproductive.
2. P4P providers tell you what you wanna hear. It´s their business.
3. Only some women become prostitutes because of lack of opportunity, and it´s not the majority of them. Most BC girls are not hooking because of lack of other opportunities, but rather because it´s the easiest way for them to make a lot of money by local standards.
4. I applaud you for your moral/ethical standards, but think that they may get grossly misinterpreted in a third-world setting, in particular in dealing with P4P providers, especially in BC.
How you can interpret my post as transposing myself onto you is beyond me. I thought I had clearly stated that it was meant as friendly advice, to be pondered or disregarded as you please, or possibly as a warning... do what makes you feel good, just be aware of some of the ramifications. I also feel confident to say that whatever you do is entirely, definitely, 100% up to you. It´s your time, your energy, your money, your experience. That was the spirit of my post (which should have been obvious for anyone, not just a trained psychologist).
The only thing I did was comment on your experience, and the way you interpret it. Don´t be so defensive. If the only thing that matters is how you feel about it, then why share it in the first place?
But anyhow, you are entited to your beliefs, and all the best from me, and good luck. Let me correct you on one thing, though, since you repeatedly say that you don't view yourself as a monger: surprise, surprise, you are a monger. The fact that you pay women to have sex with them makes you one, and the fact that you write about it on a board like ISG makes you one. Your perception is way off on that one.
I think your perceptions are off on a number of different things, actually, and that' s what I respectfully addressed in my post. But I guess that´s where we agree to disagree.
OK, no more advice from me :)
Cheers,
EA
P.S.: I didn't mean to say that mongering is a "career" for me. I thought you wouldn't miss the quotation marks.
They will see you as a sucker who likes to give money away for nothing. And once you have that reputation, you might create YOURSELF more problems than you can imagine.I completely agree with this statement.
The girl will joke with her friends (putas and tigres) about your "generosity," and you'll be a marked man, especially in a small town like Boca Chica. This goes for not just not just the women you'll pick-up, but anyone you believe you'll have the off-chance of seeing again (motoconcho drivers, waitresses, touts, shoeshine boys...)
I was really inspired by your first trip report, but please, be careful. Run down towns in impoverished countries are not where you want to be recognized as a wealthy fool.
-Helpmann :)
Well said and plainly put. I feel all would be wise to heed El Austriaco’s words. Griot please listen. This is not a matter of cost, prefererence, quality etc. It is however a matter of principle. I’m sure everyone hear agrees that quality girls (relative term) would warrant paying more.For example,both K MART and Lacoste both make white tennis shirts.However the Lacoste cost more for a reason. Not that it is necesarily the better shirt.But it is recognized as being a reputable brand. Bottom line though, they both serve the same purpose FOR THE INDIVIDUAL USER DESPITE PERSONAL PREFERENCE. However the Lacoste cost 80 wheras the Kmart brand cost only 20.Essentially what you are doing with your propina practice is paying 80 dollars for the K-Mart brand. JUST GET THE LACOSTE. If K-MART knew you would would pay 80 on a consistent basis they would begin to charge that rather money was an issue for you or not. Why not pay 26 dollars and get ½ a large pizza? Pay 500 for a good pair of hard shoes.2000 on your mortgage? 3.50 for premium gas? Ooops to late! We already do. Why at such ridiculos prices? Because oil companies said so and we all comply. (granted its a bit more complicated but you all get the picture.)
For a guy who “never tips in the US” you are really generous. Don’t be on the defense. This is only your second time down. We all have shared your mindset during our 1st few trips as well. Trust me. With time you will come to see the true nature and alterior motives of most of the chicas. We are only trying to help.Unlike many people here I am from a “3rd world country”. My sisters and mother didn’t prostitute to get us out of the hood. We ALL worked really hard and educated ourselves.These girls are here not completely out of circumstances but choice.Now if you’ll excuse me I must go cook up my daily batch of crack to sell to my community and oversee it’s proper distribution, My hoes may need a firm backhand as well. As I’m sure you’ve heard ”It’s hard out here for a pimp”.
I have not seen this much activity on this board in a short period of time in a long time. As for the topic at hand, maybe I do not share the sentiments of most posters on the topic because it is really pretty irrelevent in my life. It is not a hobby or regular interest. Its something I do ocassionally with my spare time. Botton line not meant to offend, but i do not care what another man pays or does not pay for sex or anything else. I value most of the veterans here opinions on Mongering but thats about it. I don't pattern any aspect of my life with them. i am a self thinker and doer. You all are entitled to do the P4P anyway you choose, and I likewise when I choose to do it. This appears way to important to you guys in my opinion. But here again that is your choice and I respect it. We just have to agree to disagree becase I do not accept the concepts and the theories most subscribe to. In the big schme of things it changes nothing. There is much more important issues in my life for me to be concerned about vs the amount I choose to pay a girl for a good time. Today was fun getting activity on the board, hopefully no one is or was offended. I see many of you feel strongly on the issue that I could care less about. This diversity is what makes life interesting, there are many who share my views , just like the many that share the popular view here. I guess you will have to brush up on your negotiation skills to keep getting the freebies and high handed discounts. Because I will continue to just be Griot.
:-)
Well said and plainly put. I feel all would be wise to heed El Austriaco’s words. Griot please listen. This is not a matter of cost, prefererence, quality etc. It is however a matter of principle. I’m sure everyone hear agrees that quality girls (relative term) would warrant paying more.For example,both K MART and Lacoste both make white tennis shirts.However the Lacoste cost more for a reason. Not that it is necesarily the better shirt.But it is recognized as being a reputable brand. Bottom line though, they both serve the same purpose FOR THE INDIVIDUAL USER DESPITE PERSONAL PREFERENCE. However the Lacoste cost 80 wheras the Kmart brand cost only 20.Essentially what you are doing with your propina practice is paying 80 dollars for the K-Mart brand. JUST GET THE LACOSTE. If K-MART knew you would would pay 80 on a consistent basis they would begin to charge that rather money was an issue for you or not. Why not pay 26 dollars and get ½ a large pizza? Pay 500 for a good pair of hard shoes.2000 on your mortgage? 3.50 for premium gas? Ooops to late! We already do. Why at such ridiculos prices? Because oil companies said so and we all comply. (granted its a bit more complicated but you all get the picture.)
For a guy who “never tips in the US” you are really generous. Don’t be on the defense. This is only your second time down. We all have shared your mindset during our 1st few trips as well. Trust me. With time you will come to see the true nature and alterior motives of most of the chicas. We are only trying to help.Unlike many people here I am from a “3rd world country”. My sisters and mother didn’t prostitute to get us out of the hood. We ALL worked really hard and educated ourselves.These girls are here not completely out of circumstances but choice.Now if you’ll excuse me I must go cook up my daily batch of crack to sell to my community and oversee it’s proper distribution, My hoes may need a firm backhand as well. As I’m sure you’ve heard ”It’s hard out here for a pimp”.
You guys take this much too serious for me. By that I mean mongering, chica chasing, P4P or all the other names I have heard for it. It means very little to me in my life schem of things. In retro I am surprised I put this much time into all my responses. But now you see where I am coming from, rather you accept it or not. Diversity is good. In summary I do not care what another man pays for sex or services, nor how the chicas feel or what they may say about me. I respect them as a person / and they respect me for whatever reason they choose, period. I do not care about the Chica sliding payment scale. Until I started responding to you guys I never gave it 10 minutes total thought time. What I feel at the time (high or low) is what I go with. I guess what it boils down to is I respect your right to pay anywhere on the scale you choose and be however you choose with the chicas. Afford me that same respect in return. Negotiate your date for you, not for Griot. When it is my turn I negotiate for me and me alone.
Thanks for all the effort you veterans put into trying to get me to see things your way and abide by I guess (IMR) International Mongering Rules. But that ain't me. I see your perspectives , i just do not accept them as most of you do not accept mine. Respect the diversity, we just have to agree to disagree.
Lets debate terrorism & Peace in the Middle East Now with the same passion and vigor !! :-)
Chao
Well said and plainly put. I feel all would be wise to heed El Austriaco’s words. Griot please listen. This is not a matter of cost, prefererence, quality etc. It is however a matter of principle. I’m sure everyone hear agrees that quality girls (relative term) would warrant paying more.For example,both K MART and Lacoste both make white tennis shirts.However the Lacoste cost more for a reason. Not that it is necesarily the better shirt.But it is recognized as being a reputable brand. Bottom line though, they both serve the same purpose FOR THE INDIVIDUAL USER DESPITE PERSONAL PREFERENCE. However the Lacoste cost 80 wheras the Kmart brand cost only 20.Essentially what you are doing with your propina practice is paying 80 dollars for the K-Mart brand. JUST GET THE LACOSTE. If K-MART knew you would would pay 80 on a consistent basis they would begin to charge that rather money was an issue for you or not. Why not pay 26 dollars and get ½ a large pizza? Pay 500 for a good pair of hard shoes.2000 on your mortgage? 3.50 for premium gas? Ooops to late! We already do. Why at such ridiculos prices? Because oil companies said so and we all comply. (granted its a bit more complicated but you all get the picture.)
For a guy who “never tips in the US” you are really generous. Don’t be on the defense. This is only your second time down. We all have shared your mindset during our 1st few trips as well. Trust me. With time you will come to see the true nature and alterior motives of most of the chicas. We are only trying to help.Unlike many people here I am from a “3rd world country”. My sisters and mother didn’t prostitute to get us out of the hood. We ALL worked really hard and educated ourselves.These girls are here not completely out of circumstances but choice.Now if you’ll excuse me I must go cook up my daily batch of crack to sell to my community and oversee it’s proper distribution, My hoes may need a firm backhand as well. As I’m sure you’ve heard ”It’s hard out here for a pimp”.
Member #2128
08-10-06, 20:43
Hey Man,
Thanks for putting up with all the $$$ focus---both facts and nonsense. Bottom Line: I couldn't agree with you more----everyone gets to make their own decisions and everyone else here gets to accept or complain about those choices made by the others! And in the end, nothing changes, the sun just comes up on the next day.
Please continue to make your own best decisions and let the chips fall as they may, right? Trying to change others, giving advice and trying to convince them to do what you do, is a sad waste of time and very frustrating too! I play the monger game according to the 2128 rules...and you by the Griot rules. If it ain't broke...this is no Supreme Court....it's just a group of men who enjoy the P4P scene and like speaking up to share their experiences and ideas about the game.
TO EVERYONE: Let's not forget the high quality and style of Griot's reports---friendly, open, informative, entertaining, etc etc. The $$$ thing was just that one thing, yet it gets overblown and attacts tremendous focus (WHY IS THAT?) while all the other fun stuff gets pushed off into the background.
What's that old story about the "baby and the bathwater...."?
Griot, I'm getting ready for another one of your road trips! Vive Haitianas! Let me know when you're ready to gas up!!! I'm calling shotgun. Boca Chica and BEEEEEYOND!!!!!
#2128
Griot,
I wouldn't mind discussing your views on terrorism and peace in the Middle East but .....well.....this really isn't the place for that is it? (Maybe you can ask Jackson to create a new section) (lol)
I do agree with you however, that people take this hobby [and this board] alittle too serious at times. Maybe alot of times.
If you ever have 30 minutes to kill and you need a laugh, check out the section on this site called "complaints against other members" or "banned members hall of shame" it will leave you in stitches! :D
Guys are threatening each others lives, challenging each other to knife fights...all because they've disagreed on some topic or some post or something related to mongering! It really can be amazing when you get, oh.... around... 150,000 "alpha" males in one place, on one website and see what can happen! ;)
cheers.........
FORD (an ISG survivor) ;)
Yeap Mr Ford, If we all had the vigor and passion on world and social issues that we have on the chica sliding pay scale we could possible conquer world hunger and who knows what else. I know the guys mean well. I will have to visit the complaints and archives, I have not been in anything but the current sections. I may be the newest inductee! Testosterone imbalances are a dangerous thing when it comes to females. Just look at the cavemen and their antics.
Thank you for the kind words,
Griot
Griot,
I wouldn't mind discussing your views on terrorism and peace in the Middle East but. Well. This really isn't the place for that is it? (Maybe you can ask Jackson to create a new section) (LOL)
I do agree with you however, that people take this hobby [and this board] alittle too serious at times. Maybe alot of times.
If you ever have 30 minutes to kill and you need a laugh, check out the section on this site called "complaints against other members" or "banned members hall of shame" it will leave you in stitches! : D
Guys are threatening each others lives, challenging each other to knife fights. All because they've disagreed on some topic or some post or something related to mongering! It really can be amazing when you get, oh. Around. 150, 000 "alpha" males in one place, on one website and see what can happen! ; )
Cheers. FORD (an ISG survivor); )
Man 2128, I wish I could have hit the road in the DR again. But the truth is I chickened out after reading about the increased police action and roadblocks :-( . None of which I saw when I was there. I love the mountains and scenery of this country. I don't just come for the chicas, but I probable would not have come the 1st time if not for them. They are definitely a national asset. I had planned on driving the west side of the island toward Haiti (not into Haiti) and seeing the sights and the people. I love seeing how people live. I love to people watch in differnt cultures, ie.. Ethiopia, Egypt, Panama, & Mexico. I put the DR right behind Ethiopia in being different and interesting. I am very curious about Haiti as well, but I will take the veterans advice on not going there unless I have savy trusting Haitian guide. If I knew any French I would still give it a go. But for now its Espanol classes. Then I can hit the highway with you, see the scenes and enjoy the mountain and village chicas company. Ouuu after seeing the quality of the Chicas in the mountains between Sousa and SD, it makes me shiver. One day I hope to be in the class of you and Mr. Ford and some of the other veterans, not so much in mongering but rather in knowledge and wisdom of the DR culture and society.
Griot
Hey Man,
Thanks for putting up with all the $$$ focus---both facts and nonsense. Bottom Line: I couldn't agree with you more----everyone gets to make their own decisions and everyone else here gets to accept or complain about those choices made by the others! And in the end, nothing changes, the sun just comes up on the next day.
Please continue to make your own best decisions and let the chips fall as they may, right? Trying to change others, giving advice and trying to convince them to do what you do, is a sad waste of time and very frustrating too! I play the monger game according to the 2128 rules...and you by the Griot rules. If it ain't broke...this is no Supreme Court....it's just a group of men who enjoy the P4P scene and like speaking up to share their experiences and ideas about the game.
TO EVERYONE: Let's not forget the high quality and style of Griot's reports---friendly, open, informative, entertaining, etc etc. The $$$ thing was just that one thing, yet it gets overblown and attacts tremendous focus (WHY IS THAT?) while all the other fun stuff gets pushed off into the background.
What's that old story about the "baby and the bathwater...."?
Griot, I'm getting ready for another one of your road trips! Vive Haitianas! Let me know when you're ready to gas up!!! I'm calling shotgun. Boca Chica and BEEEEEYOND!!!!!
#2128
MrLogan1979
08-14-06, 20:24
Ok guys,
I was about to book a flight AA--from Chicago to SDQ airport to travel beginnning of Nov. 2006 for about $390.00 (including taxes) from priceline pre-London airport terrorist plot (about August 6th). I didn't reserve because was looking at other deals. Now I go today to priceline same flight is $465.00--YIKES--help me guys, I know its only 75 dollars difference but that could be used for an extra day of fun--so for all you seasoned travelers to SD tell should I book now or wait about a month-- dont know how to judge the effects of this terrorist crap, I dont know when is High/Low season in the Caribbean but I am guessing High season ends about end Aug/early Sep.--please help--I have time on my side--exptected travel is beginning of Nov--and DEFINITELY b4 Thanksgiving--Thanks a bunch guys. Cant wait for Boca Chica.
How are the curfews affecting the nightlife in BC. I may have to find an alternative to DR but don’t forsee any substitutes just yet. Maybe Panama. Somebody let us know whats going on down there
As of 2 weeks ago, little had changed except you have to move your partying and decision making up. There was a over abundance of girls at the American disco and the other disco, I forget the name. There were a few more police, but they never bothered anyone until the clock strikes 12 mon-thur and 2am on Fri and Sat. There were no searches, road blocks or anything like that. They assure the plug is pulled on all the establishments and as long as you are moving they don't harrass you to get off the street. If anything it may work to your advantage. If you want an all nighter it adds 2 more hours to your time. Don't let a few hours discourage you.
Griot
How are the curfews affecting the nightlife in BC. I may have to find an alternative to DR but don’t forsee any substitutes just yet. Maybe Panama. Somebody let us know whats going on down there
I just read on the **** site that ElCaucho is no longer. The reports say that $$$ is the problem.
If anyone has more or better information, please let us know. I was there last winter and was planning on a return visit next winter. If this hotel closes up, we will have lost a great mongering spot in BC.
I hope that this issue is somehow resolved.
Sailor02
Hobby Addict
09-03-06, 14:58
I stayed there in July. Place was great, clean. Just sitting in the lobby was all you had to do.
I just read on the **** site that ElCaucho is no longer. The reports say that $$$ is the problem.
If anyone has more or better information, please let us know. I was there last winter and was planning on a return visit next winter. If this hotel closes up, we will have lost a great mongering spot in BC.
I hope that this issue is somehow resolved.
Sailor02
Member #4643
09-03-06, 17:16
I have never joined one of these sites, since its so easy to find pro and non pro in the DR. HOWEVER, It occured to me that adultfriendfinder.com is probably as close to an independent hookers web site as there exists in the DR. It seems to me that one can join and every girl is likely to be advertising P4P.
Does anyone have experience to know if this is true?
You guessed it!
I joined with no significant results. The trend has shited from having the girls address to cell phone to email. I’ve managed to hook up with a few. It takes more time than it’s worth. There are also no garantees that she’s there for “the sport”. One girl I linked up with had become saved since the time that I met her.I traveled to el barrio to link up with her, only for her to inform me of how God would smite us if we fornicated! Aside from that she kept trying to convince me that Jesus Christ was white and that I would win favor from God if I to converted! Another girl told me that she had recently landed a job in Boca Chica. She didn’t tellme that it was at Salon Blanco! I still did her though! Another guy I spoke with had her as well and posted her pics on another site.LOL. Overall it’s a small investment with minimal return.Just like any dating site. Everyone wants to look. Few actually will go the distance and link up. Question. I’ve been to BC several times. What and where is El Caucho?
Hello All,
Since there are many who are concerned about Hotel Cuacho I will chime in. It's no mystery that the service has been steadily going down hill and the managers have "other" business interests throughout the country. To that end it was no surprise when I heard from a reliable source that they owed the property owner $1,000,000. Pesos in back rent. WOW! No wonder she came back like a bad nickel to run the place. There you have it.
Could some1 tell me of a nice, low price 1bedroom or 2bedroom apartment to rent for about week in Nov. in Boca Chica not to far from the beach area. I will be the 1st time to the DR. I heard good things about it!
Thanks if some1 can help me.
Hello All,
Since there are many who are concerned about Hotel Cuacho I will chime in. It's no mystery that the service has been steadily going down hill and the managers have "other" business interests throughout the country. To that end it was no surprise when I heard from a reliable source that they owed the property owner $1,000,000. Pesos in back rent. WOW! No wonder she came back like a bad nickel to run the place. There you have it.
Grand Pollo
10-18-06, 03:10
Peter and Flemming of Playa Vista Bar have a one BR apartment that is at the bar and is ON the beach, with AC and satellite TV, it was 2004 when I last used it but it was $35-40 a night cash. They may want PayPal of 1/2 up front but it is an OK place, no daily maid service etc., but it is very private especially at night.
You can go to DR1 dot com website, as they have a blog there so you can get their contact info.
My 2 cents worth about:
Hotel Cachela:
A good cheap hotel, right on Duarte Ave. across from the beach, close to all the downtown action.
Its on the second floor, above the Defensa grocery store.
Open 24 Hr. with security, clean, good air conditioning, good service, balcony overlooking the main drag, from where you can call any walking by sex worker, and there are lots, every night.
I’ve stayed there for weeks at a time, 10 or so times, since 2001, good place. Girl friendly, but maybe not for 2…. Don’t know.
Catalina (co-owner) used to charge $25. US, then $30.00 last April, might be $35. or $40. now, who knows.
Highly recomended, if you want to be walking distance to all the action in Boca Chica.
Marc Anthony
10-21-06, 20:07
I was planning on going to BC and staying at Candil in early November. Previously I've been to PP/Sosua a couple of times. This time I was thinking of bringing my laptop to work on photos. Is it safe to leave a laptop or other small expensive electronic stuff in the room? What's your experience traveling with laptops? TIA.
I was planning on going to BC and staying at Candil in early November. Previously I've been to PP/Sosua a couple of times. This time I was thinking of bringing my laptop to work on photos. Is it safe to leave a laptop or other small expensive electronic stuff in the room? What's your experience traveling with laptops? TIA.I always bring my laptop with me to DR. Sometimes I want to transfer photos from my camera or share my "memories" with fellow single travelers. Also, there is free wireless internet at the Playa Vista beach bar (behind, south of, the Europa Hotel), so sometimes I check my personal and office email from the beach.
El Candil does have a lock and key safe (USD$1.00 a day), but it's not large enough to store your laptop in it. Nevertheless, I think El Candil has the best non-All Inclusive hotel security in Boca Chica. It would be hard for an overnight "guest" to walk out with your laptop at El Candil; however, there are other things that you should consider, such as employee theft and laptop damage (your "guest" may not steal it, but she may break it.)
My advice to you is, if you have to bring your laptop, store it in a locked (keyed or combination) hardcase suitcase and be careful who you bring to your room.
Have a safe trip. I'll be back in BC around the same time as well (4th BC trip since July '06.)
Cheers!
Helpmann :)
Grand Pollo
10-23-06, 02:57
I have heard in addition to the in room wall safes that Costalunga has installed a checkpoint charlie style fence around the whole works now so that should have added a degree of protection.
I left my camera, computer etc, out in my room there for 4 1/2 years of trips and lost nothing, I wouldn't be too concerned.
I have heard in addition to the in room wall safes that Costalunga has installed a checkpoint charlie style fence around the whole works now so that should have added a degree of protection.
I left my camera, computer etc, out in my room there for 4 1/2 years of trips and lost nothing, I wouldn't be too concerned.Yep, Costalunga installed an electric gate, much like the gate at El Candil. 2 weeks ago, I was surprised I had to be buzzed in to enter.
-Helpmann :)
Good for Costalunga, that place was very wide opened, putas in and out without being checked.
Thanks for helping me, but like to ask is the hotel girl friendly? Do they charge extra for company? I have email few places & have not heard back. Is it better just to call? My depart day is closing in.
Dutty,
It is not an apartment but I would seriously consider staying at one of the suites at the El Candil Hotel. The cost is around $45.00 dollars a night with airport pickup, security, and everything a small apartment would offer you, such as cable TV with U.S stations, stove, refrigerator, a separate room in addiction to your bedroom, along with air conditioning. The other thing you have to consider being in Boca Chica is the frequency of power outages that take place and the El Candil has a backup generator. It is a block or so from the beach and is very quiet. You also have a pool and an outdoor restaurant located next to it. The owners are great people and will be very helpful to answering any questions you might have, and the same goes for there staff. I give it a big thumbs up. There have been several positive reports made on the place here on the ISG and I do not know if I have ever read a bad one. Just an option to consider. Have a great time!
Thanks for helping me, but like to ask is the hotel girl friendly? Do they charge extra for company? I have email few places & have not heard back. Is it better just to call? My depart day is closing in.They don't charge for Hookers staying the night, they just have to leave their cedula at the desk. Call the Candil and confirm, they do book up since its one of the popular hotels in Boca Chica.
If you email El Candil, they will email you back the same day. They monitor their email every so often. I stayed there a couple of months ago. As everyone said , it is a great nice , clean secure place. It is girl friendly as long as the chica has her cedula. Only 1 chica at a time. However after hours the gate security guard may let you have mutiples if you are very nice to him. He is a nice little old dominican man. No extra charge for the guest. It is 2 1/2 short blocks from beach and the main strip. There is a massage parlor across the street. They will ask for a small deposit to hold the room or you can send your whole tab. The owners are Finish and I forget the other country. They are Engliish speaking. They are great and the staff is also. They keep the place immaculate. I don't think you will go wrong here. Enjoy
Thanks for helping me, but like to ask is the hotel girl friendly? Do they charge extra for company? I have email few places & have not heard back. Is it better just to call? My depart day is closing in.
I'd like to thank everyone for the help I'm receiving. Now we maybe staying in Punta Cana. This is what happens when you travel with others. I am a frequent travler to Brasil, just wanted change.
So does anyone know of places to stay n Punta Cana? I will arrive in Punta Cana, so may just find place there. Sorry for the troubles, but if anyone needs help in Brasil I maybe the one to help you there!
I have no problem sharing any information I have with you Dutty but if you would have done your homework like I suggested you would have found that the El Candil is one of the best places for a monger to stay in Boca Chica. If you did not hear back from the owner Peter then call him, and when you are talking to him tell him you need him to pick you up at the airport and he will at no cost. There is also no charge to have a guest in your room, for that matter you can 2 or 3 at a time if you so choose. Security does however make sure every girl who visits your room leaves there cedula (identification) at the security desk which is the front desk of the hotel. This is for your own protection. If you are into going to massage parlours there is one directly across the street from the entrance of the El Candil but the quality of the girls when I stopped by there to take a look were poor.. Another massage parlour you might want to check out even in the day time is Casa Blanca or I believe the other name it is going by is Blanca Salon. I did the owner of it several times even though she is not exactly a working girl as no money changed hands. They had a nice selection of girls to choose from. The mamason there is very fluent in english and I believe her name was Leda. It also has a bar and pool that is within 10 feet of the bar. This place is within walking distance to the El Candil. If you have any further questions please post them and I or other members here who are familiar with Boca Chica will be glad to help you, but first please go back and read the back posts.
What is the reason for your vist to the DR?
Punta Cana is not exactly a mongering hot spot. If your goal is a all inclusive resort, Punta Cana is your spot. Not much else there. I was there and immediatly left when I visited. I can not tell you about the hotels or anything else because I headed to BC, but as another poster said there is a bit of info on the board, you just need to research and read.
I'd like to thank everyone for the help I'm receiving. Now we maybe staying in Punta Cana. This is what happens when you travel with others. I am a frequent travler to Brasil, just wanted change.
So does anyone know of places to stay n Punta Cana? I will arrive in Punta Cana, so may just find place there. Sorry for the troubles, but if anyone needs help in Brasil I maybe the one to help you there!
It was 6 fellow that hangout toghter in Brasil, just wanted 2 try something new. As it turned out no one knew where to go, but just wanted to go. Few places where mention, then decided to fly n2 puj, so thats how we ended up there, but now its only 2 guys goin. But I can make the best of anything. I was just lookn for cool places to stay & hangout. The woman are no problem for me, not trying to be funny, but I can get those. Just good 2 have heads up where ever I travel. Thanks for the info that was given.
What is the reason for your vist to the DR?
Punta Cana is not exactly a mongering hot spot. If your goal is a all inclusive resort, Punta Cana is your spot. Not much else there. I was there and immediatly left when I visited. I can not tell you about the hotels or anything else because I headed to BC, but as another poster said there is a bit of info on the board, you just need to research and read.
Free Here,
Yeah Dutty,
I have to agree with everyone here. Going to Punta Cana your first time in DR is like a suicide mission. Good luck. Stay safe, do Santo Domingo and an early evening in Boca Chica.
Free
Free Here,
Yeah Dutty,
I have to agree with everyone here. Going to Puerto Plata your first time in DR is like a suicide mission. Good luck. Stay safe, do Santo Domingo and an early evening in Boca Chica.
Free
I believe that you meant Punta Cana its true its the city was not designed to cater to the single male looking for adventure but to be fair to you if you have already made your reservation and paid for it like most do when going to punta cana (it normally flight plus hotel to get a good deal) then lets make the best out of it.
there are some places to go to in punta cana but get ready you will not have the selection of Sto Dgo neither will you have the quantity of Pto Pta or sosua.
If you are staying at an AI then you have more problems as you cannot get girls in there without paying a full days rate for her. You will need to stay at a hotel that is guest friendly.
You can go to La Punta they will quote about $100us for 2 hrs. I do not know if that has changed.
Take the advice that is given here on the board and depending on how long you are going to be there in the DR change your airport to santo domingo and you will have the time of your life.
if you cant fly into sdq then change and fly out of it.
I am a frequent travler to Brasil, just wanted change.
I dont know why you are even wasting your time in DR since you have been to Brasil many times. Why dont you try going to Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brasilia, Amazon etc.... there is so much more to do and see in Brasil than in DR you see the size of Brasil compared to that little island. Im a frequent DR travler and just started going to Brail and I love it there, since this is going to be your 1st time in DR you will be disappointed I thik it's easy for a person to start off in DR and than move on to Brasil than it is to start in Brasil and than move on to DR thats like leaving the majors to go to the minors.
I go to Brasil 3 or 4 times yr, just like to start seeing other places. True brasil is good for me, I know lots of people there, working & no-working. Just want 2 see something new. I probably be back in brasil in Dec. & Jan. DR is a good short trip, to see whats happening.
I dont know why you are even wasting your time in DR since you have been to Brasil many times. Why dont you try going to Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brasilia, Amazon etc.... there is so much more to do and see in Brasil than in DR you see the size of Brasil compared to that little island. Im a frequent DR travler and just started going to Brail and I love it there, since this is going to be your 1st time in DR you will be disappointed I thik it's easy for a person to start off in DR and than move on to Brasil than it is to start in Brasil and than move on to DR thats like leaving the majors to go to the minors.
I may look into changing tkt, talked with my buddy & I told what I found out. He may just stay there, but just incase I'll need a place where its girl friendly anyway. Shit I should have came to this site instead of listen to others, live & learn. You guys been cool.
I dont know why you are even wasting your time in DR since you have been to Brasil many times. Why dont you try going to Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brasilia, Amazon etc.... there is so much more to do and see in Brasil than in DR you see the size of Brasil compared to that little island. Im a frequent DR travler and just started going to Brail and I love it there, since this is going to be your 1st time in DR you will be disappointed I thik it's easy for a person to start off in DR and than move on to Brasil than it is to start in Brasil and than move on to DR thats like leaving the majors to go to the minors.
Member #4643
10-28-06, 01:33
Greetings from Brazil.
I understand where Pana Nyc is coming from, since I go to both countries frequently. It is true that the Brazilian culture is far richer than the DR, and that it is possible to easily find amazingly sexy girls in Brazil for sex who couldn't be found in the DR for any price. But I think the DR is quite a lot of fun, since its virtually possible to pick up any girl there (and I am in my 50s!) if you have patience and the fortitude to withstand the scammers and the girls who want a marriage commitment.
I have as much fun and as much sex in the DR as in Brazil. Even in rural Brazil, where I always have "free" sex, I cannot imagine being able to pick up girls at 7:30 am for a quickie like I have done in Santo Domingo. Sao Paulo has amazing hookers, but they can be pricey and difficult just like their sisters in North America!
Bottom line: the DR is terrific for anyone who is simply looking for sex. Dominicans are a challenge, but their girls can be terrific in bed at approximately the same cost as Brazil. And, its only a few hours from New York, while Brazil is a major haul.
I agree with Forest for the most part. The question of DR vs Brasil comes about from time to time so I will provide my analysis of the two destinations.
Brazil- Pros.The woman are perhaps the most beautifl any of us will ever encounter.I say that in a universal way because Brasil is so very diverse.The genetic makeup of the women ranges from smooth dark skin,and I mean very dark, to caramel and cinnamon complexions which are common in most southern regions of Brasil.And in the northern cities you find many "European" types.In essence you can find ANY and MANY types of girls there.Brasil has the most cosmetic surgery/capita in South America. I beleive 5th in the world overall, so you can find your LA and Miami types as well.The food and shopping are excellent as well for what its worth.Drinks in most places are relativily inexpensive.High concentrations of girls in specific areas.Apartments can be had for 40-80 dollars a night and most owners will be willing to negotiate for longer stays.
Cons-The real has been gaining strenghth as our dollar weakens.Without Good Portuguese or near excellent Spanish (which you can parlay into bad Portuguese) you are moreless confined to business transactions. There are occasions in which women will want to "hang out" but most will have you on a "program" as they affectionatley refer to the business of providing you with a GFE. Hotels are costly.You will almost always be charged a fee for overnight guest.Be prepared to pay an additional 20 to 50 dollars.In Copa some of the men look better than the ladies.No I'm not gay.No I am not joking.Please see my note about the plastic surgery.
DR!-Pros- Many Many Many available girls.Virtually anyone can be had.When I first met my friend who was initially my guide, he insisited that I fuck his sister.In an attempt to follow the "American code of conduct", I refused. They both felt offended.To this day he always ask"why you no want fuck my seester mayn?!?" If you so much as smile at a girl she will likely be willing to "talk" with you. It is so easy it hurts.GIRLS ARE LESS EXPENSIVE! Quality plays a major part but hey thats the case everywhere. I've seen girls in Rio OUTSIDE of HELP,(please note, outside means they could not get in because they are broke or dont look the part) tax guys 50-60 US equivalent. 60 in DR takes you alot further,trust me. If your Spanish is good you can have 2 regular daytime chics for that price in DR. Or if Quality is your thing, just know that 50-70 is more than enough to land the thickest Jlo booty in the DR. If you pay more ,it's because youve opted to.Spanish helps alot but even with a basic knowledge of the language you can still manuver and get things accomplished.There is a certain feelin of lawless freedom in the DR.Drink in the car while your sober partner does all the driving. Police encounter? offer em a drink. Take a pic. It works.Trust me.Overnight guest is such the norm that almost no hotels will hassle or charge you so long as she has a cedula (id). Santo Domingo may be the exception.
Cons-Some of the dumbest con artist you will ever come across.The girls can be trouble if you are new to the turf.Most are at least 300 years old because they have birthdays every week! DR can be very inconsistent. Hit or miss many a night. The hotspots move continuosly. Many bad body types ie moms who dont try to stay in shape.These are some of the fakest and nonsincere chics you will ever meet in your life. Good actresses though! They seem to lack a genuine sense of right and wrong, especially when it comes to money matters.Electric outages are the norm. Even if your hotel has a generator, who wants to wander the streets in the dark and risk getting robbed? If you are not street smart or business savvy (best to be both, if not one of the two will suffice) you will get got at some point. It is almost inevitable.
Overall. DR is the better bang for the buck. If you have time,money, and energy to spare,GO TO BRASIL.DrRis a poorman's paradise. Brasil is a rich man's heaven.Thats about as plainly as I can state it.
Dont get me wrong I luv the DR, and it will always be my #1 spot, Im 26 and Im looking for 8's,9's,10's and no other place in the world offers that than Brasil man the choices are unlimited if I want to fuck a morena one day and than the next a blanca, and than the next a mixed garota thats what I luv about Brasil. DR is only 3 hours from me being that I live in NYC, I was hitting DR hard for the last 18 months going once a month and I guess that made me tired of DR, and oh yes I have been almost every where on that island I started on the off beaten paths when I 1st started visiting DR to places like Rio San Juan, Nagua, Cabbera, Samana etc... I even stayed for 2 months speak spanish fluently Im from Panama by the way but to each his own where ever you feel you will have the most fun go there by all means right.
El Austriaco
10-28-06, 18:20
The real has been gaining strenghth as our dollar weakens.Without Good Portuguese or near excellent Spanish (which you can parlay into bad Portuguese) you are moreless confined to business transactions. There are occasions in which women will want to "hang out" but most will have you on a "program" as they affectionatley refer to the business of providing you with a GFE. Hotels are costly.You will almost always be charged a fee for overnight guest.Be prepared to pay an additional 20 to 50 dollars.
I don't know about you, but the vast majority of freelancers I met in Brazil wanted to "hang out", and in my personal experience, a GFE is much more likely in Brazil than in the DR. I've lived in Brazil for nine months, both in Rio and in the countryside, and I've spent about one month total in the DR. Also, "programa" (program) in Brazil does NOT refer necessarily to a GFE: it's a euphemism for a "trick", i.e. any kind of fuck.
Overnight fees: 20 to 50 dollars seems high and might only apply in high-end hotels. Well, don't stay in high-end hotels. My regular Rio hotel charges R$ 12.00 (less than USD 6.00) for an overnight guest. But anyhow, I don't recommend letting girls stay at your hotel in the first place. That's what love motels are for in the first place (and I do know some love motels that are perfectly fine and charge less than USD 20.00 for a couple of hours, even with the low dollar).
I've seen girls in Rio OUTSIDE of HELP (please note, outside means they could not get in because they are broke or dont look the part) tax guys 50-60 US equivalent.
LOL. The only part girls have to look in Rio to get into Help is the R$ 32.00 "entrance fee" part.
Overall. DR is the better bang for the buck. If you have time,money, and energy to spare,GO TO BRASIL.DrRis a poorman's paradise. Brasil is a rich man's heaven.
Because of its vicinity to the US, DR may be preferable for short trips, yes. But I would disagree that overall, the DR is the better bang for the buck. True, the dollar has dropped quite a bit compared to the Brazilian Real (just like it has compared with some other currencies), but Brazil still is not only a "rich man´s heaven". Explore beyond the usual tourist haunts in Rio, and you will quickly, easily, and safely find places where you can bang very good-looking girls for as little as USD 10.00. I have. Can you do that in the DR?
You only gotta be rich to do Brazil if you speak no Portuguese and don´t venture beyond the reach of the Copacabana sharks whose stated goal in life is, well, to part you from as much of your money as quickly as they can get away with it. Like those in Help and in front of it.
In other words, for me, Rio is both the poor man's paradise and a rich man's heaven. Not that the DR is bad, though. Not at all.
EA
Free Here,
Dutty,
It sounds as if you are going to DR regardless of what is said here about DR/Brazil. From, the looks of it you are on the right track. Just MAKE SURE you go to Santo Domingo, DO NOT fuck with Punta Cana (at least not on your first trip). I remember you saying in one of your post that ¨The women are no problem for me.¨ If thats the case and you are "slick" enough, you should be able to fuck most non or semi pros for FREE!
My last trip to DR, more then half of the chics that me and my boys knocked off were gratis (free). Also you mentioned you speak Spanish, you should REALLY be good to go then. If you want anymore info PM me.
Free!!
I prefer the DR to Brazil. Nevertheless, with a few exceptions (laws/norms regarding prostitution and police corruption) I don't believe that there is really that big a difference between the two. If you're looking for flirtatious sexy morenas with thin bodies and round culos, you can find them in both countries. After that, it comes down to three things.
1) Do you have the talent and charm to spot and snare the hottie that's going to allow you to fuck her up the ass, slap her with your dick, and fuck her throat? Later handing her US$30 for 2 hours of sex and 4 hours of GFE (the lunch and laughs before the sex) as she grins from ear-to-ear, only for her to call you 30 minutes later, asking for more.
2) Do you speak the language and understand the culture (music, dance, people) well enough to charm this type of hottie?
3) All things being equal (#1 and #2,) is it convenient and cheap for you to travel to the country?
For me, when it comes to the DR, I can answer "YES" to #1, #2, and #3; however, when it comes to Brazil, I can't answer "YES" to a single one.
Yes, I can get laid in Brazil, but not like I can in the DR. I can't find an 18-year-old Brazilian girl, who's going to let me fuck her like her last Brazilian boyfriend. Yes, I may fuck her ass and yes, I may fuck her throat and slap her with my dick, but not for US$30 and not following 4-hours of GFE.
I don't speak Portuguese, I know very little about Brazilian culture, and it's a 10-hour, $800 direct flight away (3.5-hour, $400 direct flight to DR,) so when I cancel a free miles flight to Brazil, so I can return to the DR, it's because I've already been to Sugar Loaf.
-Helpmann :)
Thanks for all the help. I have changed my tkt so I'll be in Santo Domingo. Talk with my buddy & he's doing the same. I did say women are no problem, but I still don't want to be around alot of tourist people. I just want to have fun & do as I please, but not to harm no one but enjoy myself. My spanish is weak but can chat with someone on elementary conversatn, portugeues is better thou. My friends can help me as I help him in Brasil. I'll get the room in Boca Chica, as one of the guys suggested. They did reply back & answered all my question.
Free Here,
Dutty,
It sounds as if you are going to DR regardless of what is said here about DR/Brazil. From, the looks of it you are on the right track. Just MAKE SURE you go to Santo Domingo, DO NOT fuck with Punta Cana (at least not on your first trip). I remember you saying in one of your post that ¨The women are no problem for me.¨ If thats the case and you are "slick" enough, you should be able to fuck most non or semi pros for FREE!
My last trip to DR, more then half of the chics that me and my boys knocked off were gratis (free). Also you mentioned you speak Spanish, you should REALLY be good to go then. If you want anymore info PM me.
Free!!
Where is the best place to exchange the money & some hot spots to hangout at?
Free Here,
Dutty,
It sounds as if you are going to DR regardless of what is said here about DR/Brazil. From, the looks of it you are on the right track. Just MAKE SURE you go to Santo Domingo, DO NOT fuck with Punta Cana (at least not on your first trip). I remember you saying in one of your post that ¨The women are no problem for me.¨ If thats the case and you are "slick" enough, you should be able to fuck most non or semi pros for FREE!
My last trip to DR, more then half of the chics that me and my boys knocked off were gratis (free). Also you mentioned you speak Spanish, you should REALLY be good to go then. If you want anymore info PM me.
Free!!
BoricuaOnline
10-29-06, 16:13
I got my best exchange rate on an exchange bank that is on El Conde. You walk from Hotel Mercure to your right, pass after the Supermarket and the next exchange house that is on a corner its the place.
Where is the best place to exchange the money & some hot spots to hangout at?
Where is the best place to exchange the money & some hot spots to hangout at?Use a bank ATM, they generally have the best rates and you don't have to travel with as much US cash. Also, I would recommend that you don't use your credit card in the DR, except at a US car rental agency (Alamo, Hertz, Avis), with a US airline (AA, Delta,) or possibly at a resort.
BOCA CHICA:
The BEST Boca Chica hang-out is a Sunday or Saturday afternoon (3pm - 6pm) at Boca Chica beach. Recommended "American" beach bar: Playa Vista.
The TYPICAL Boca Chica hang-out in the evenings is Calle Duarte (the street is the closest thing you'll find to Brazil's Help Discotec scene on the South Coast.) Not Recommended: Nevertheless, this may be your best shot :D.
SANTO DOMINGO:
El Conde (Shopping District)
El Malecon (Nightlife/Streetwalker District)
Gazcue (Massage Parlor / Wh0re House District)
Ave. Venezuela (Nightlife District in Zona Oriental)
Ave. Maximo Gomez (Evening Streetwalker District)
Good Luck, You're Going to Need It!!
Helpmann :D
SANTO DOMINGO:
El Conde (Shopping District)
El Malecon (Nightlife/Streetwalker District)
Gazcue (Massage Parlor / Wh0re House District)
Ave. Venezuela (Nightlife District in Zona Oriental)
Ave. Maximo Gomez (Evening Streetwalker District)
Also in SD for non-pros:
Acropolis Mall
Colleges and Universities (UTESA, UASD, PUCMM, UNIBE, etc)
Hardrock Cafe, Steakhouse for Fri happy hour, etc.
Good Choice to fly into SDQ. Boca Chica is fun, but you will be tired of it after a couple of days. It is very small but lively. You will enjoy SDQ. Don't worry about your Spanish, If you speak Portuguese I know it is better than mine and I have been all over the island solo with little problem. You probable will not have to worry about tourist latching on to you. Most stay to themselves, especially most of the mongers. Enjoy I will try it again in January.
Also FYI: Atlanta Mongers, Delta has a non stop special of about $278 to SDQ. Add in the fees and you are at $400. Pretty good.
Where is the best place to exchange the money & some hot spots to hangout at?
Does anyone know anyting about Viking's Exotic Resort? What island is it on etc. Is it worth it?
Free Here,
Dutty, I am not sure how long you are going to stay in DR. BUT I would suggest you get a room in Santo D. and go to Boca Chica for a day trip (its only about 25 mins away from SD). Boca is real boring after a while, and there is so much more to see in the city, so I suggest you stay in SD and just take a trip to Boca for the day
FREE
The key phrase being "in the day". BC is dead.You can ride the quads or go to the beach on Sunday.But during the night it comes alive. 10pm on out its like shooting fish n a barrel. If you go during the day you will have a completely different impression of the place unless you know your way in the barrios which I would not suggest for a first go round. I like to play the capital by day and part of the night. Get back to BC at 1 in the morning and just pick one. Its really that simple. You just gotta learn who to pick and when though or you could be in for a hard night.While I'm here I have a question. Where is El Bohen? Anyone ever here of this place?
Grand Pollo
11-07-06, 03:05
Does anyone know anyting about Viking's Exotic Resort? What island is it on etc. Is it worth it?
You really want to pay $3000 for 4 days in the DR?
Member #2128
11-07-06, 09:29
From what I remember, it's an overpriced "club", something like Crystals in Puerto Plata. Don't know if it still exists. This was 2 years ago.
#2128
While I'm here I have a question. Where is El Bohen? Anyone ever here of this place?
El Bhem is a very overpriced club with the chicas charging as much as $120-$140. You must pay before you take her out. If the sex is lousy you are out of alot of money. It is better to do a chica at Blackbeards for less than $45 short term. My experience has shown that when you overpay the sex is not good.
I was aiming to show a rookie friend of mine that that place was actually overpriced based upon what he told me he payed. Mission Accomplished. Many people seek to spit on BC but I personally love it. i'll be back in April. If you see a guy chillin out at La Criola playing 80s hits on the jukebox youve found me!Grantd BC doesnt have many if any 10s but theyre are some very nice 7-8s to be had for free or fare price. Fair price being 1000-1200 during a busy night. Usually girls go for 1000.Sometimes what I do is this.If the deed has been done and the service is rushed or she cops an attitude(at some point it's bound to happen) just pay her in dollars and pesos. DO NOT SHORT HER BY MORE THAN 10$. This confuses the average girl and for fear of looking stupid (or just being plain stupid) they never question the peso equivalent.I'm not saying cheat her, (yes I am) but who wants to pay for a lousy date? I can do that here in the states right?
Where is El Bohen? Anyone ever here of this place?
El Bohem and Crystals is not worth it for several reasons. Even if you can over pay for p*ssy, the sex is generally horrible. Why? Because those chicas are earning 1 months salary for an hour of laying on their back, so imagine the effort they put it. Those chicks can see 3 clients a month and be way ahead of the game vs. regular working girls (hookers and real jobs).
I would stick with a place like Blackbeards, or just mongering in Sosua or another city. I've always found that those chicas value the "potentential repeat customer option" more than the Bohem chicas because it means more to them.
I had a chica once tell me at El Bohem CLOSING that she was NOT going to roll with me for $100USD...wanted $150USD, and was more comfortable going home empty handed that night...not hungry enough. Compare that with Classico at closing, and you can likley pay $30USD for TLN...easy!
Hey Curry,
Where is La Criola located in BC-I will be back in BC in December-sometimes nice to hang out where you can listen to American music.
Thanks
How are things in the DR nowadays with the curfew in effect? Are the police hassling people looking for company?
El Bohem and Crystals is not worth it for several reasons. Even if you can over pay for p*ssy, the sex is generally horrible. Why? Because those chicas are earning 1 months salary for an hour of laying on their back, so imagine the effort they put it. Those chicks can see 3 clients a month and be way ahead of the game vs. regular working girls (hookers and real jobs).
I would stick with a place like Blackbeards, or just mongering in Sosua or another city. I've always found that those chicas value the "potentential repeat customer option" more than the Bohem chicas because it means more to them.
I had a chica once tell me at El Bohem CLOSING that she was NOT going to roll with me for $100USD...wanted $150USD, and was more comfortable going home empty handed that night...not hungry enough. Compare that with Classico at closing, and you can likley pay $30USD for TLN...easy!
Thats why I rather spend that money in a Terma in Rio those garotas put their backs into it. On Cristals and El Bohiem I set up dates with these putas off site you get a better deal 1500RD you cant beat that atleast if they are a dud you are only out 45US instead of 100US big difference.
Victor Lazlo
11-16-06, 09:40
Dukes1963, La Criolla is a bar/restaurant on Duarte, directly across from the old Cosmos disco (still closed, sadly) and next door to the old Route 66, which has reopened under a new name.
Awmil, the closing times are 12AM Sun-Thu and 2AM Fri-Sat. I didn't see any harassment by the police in September, only that they show up to make sure the bars close on time.
By the way, for those who may be interested, I read on another board that El Caucho is open again. Same management, same setup, same everything, from what I gather.
http://www.elcaucho.com/
Victor Lazlo
12-04-06, 08:45
One new one this time, Elizabeth, mid-20s.
When I first started out with this, I was a bit depressed by the quick, anonymous, meaningless sex that all takes place in under an hour and then you're alone again. Now that I have a couple of steady girls though, I find that I kind of relish these one-shots.
After taking the Caribe Tours bus from Sosua, I got into Boca Chica about 6 PM. Checked into hotel, bought supplies, went for a swim, etc. Around 9:30 went to La Criolla for dinner. Decided to put off calling my BC chica because I didn't feel like socializing. Kind of enjoyed being on my own after 10 days with my girl in Sosua.
I did however, feel like getting laid. I was approached by two different girls in the restaurant, but waved them away. After I ate, I sat and had a second Cuba Libre. I wasn't approached by any more girls. After a while I decided I would have to circulate to find something. I paid and left.
There is a bar next to the restaurant and the sidewalk in front of both was loaded with chicas. I got maybe 10 feet from the restaurant when a girl said, "Hola, where you go?" I gave her the once-over and she passed the acceptible-not acceptible test. Not beautiful, but OK face and body. I said, "I don't know". She said, "Me for you, OK?". I took her aside to talk.
I told her I very much like chupere (sucking). Much, much sucking, not for just 1 minute. She said no problem. I said also without condom. She said chupere without was OK but ficki-ficki required one. I said of course (better for all concerned). I asked how much. She said 1 Mil pesos ($30). Since it was her opening bid I could have tried to bargain her down, but I considered it a fair price, so I said OK.
She spoke some English and we chit-chatted during the 4 block walk back to the hotel. She said she is from Santo Domingo and was staying with her sister who lives in BC. She handed over her ID at the desk and up to the room we went. In the room I offered her a beer, which she accepted. She showed me a photo of her two daughters, 7+4, on her picturephone.
She stripped and washed and insisted that I wash the relevant area. After that I just lay back and let her do me. True to her word she sucked me for a long while (how long? One loses track of time...). I was a bit drained from Sosua, so when the chupere didn't do the trick she suggested sex. I said OK. Put on condom. She got on top. I figured I'd let her wear herself out that way and then I'd have to flip her over to finish doggie.
I thought wrong. This girl definitely had moves. She rode me, varying rythyms and body positions slightly, until she found the one that worked. Then she picked up the tempo till I was a goner. I was pretty much passive through the whole thing, except for feeling up her body while she did all the work. One thing, she had nice full titties with big nipples that I enjoyed playing with.
Afterward she washed again. I paid her and gave a 100 peso ($3) tip for doing a great job. She gave me her phone # and said I could call her and she would come right to the hotel (room service, ha ha). When she left it was 12:15. I had a few beers, watched a little tv and went to bed.
The whole thing lasted about an hour. It was all very easy, straightforward, and, most remarkable, extremely cordial. There was nothing sleazy or shameful about it. We both got what we wanted (or needed). She was very good natured and we parted friends. So, for approx. $33 total, I got a very nice memory with no strings attached.
Thetsmplumber
12-04-06, 19:17
The whole thing lasted about an hour. It was all very easy, straightforward, and, most remarkable, extremely cordial. There was nothing sleazy or shameful about it. We both got what we wanted (or needed). She was very good natured and we parted friends. So, for approx. $33 total, I got a very nice memory with no strings attached.Nice post. Describes the experience well and outlines why 'the life' is chosen by guys the world over.
As has been said before, "I pay them to leave."
Cheers,
Mr. P.
I have read many pages. I do not know what to pay the chicas. Help!
I have read many pages. I do not know what to pay the chicas. Help!Short-time Daytime: RD$500 - RD$1,000
Short-time Night-time: RD$500 - RD$1,200
Toda la Noche: RD$1,000 - RD$2,500
-Helpmann :)
Short-time Daytime: RD$500 - RD$1,000
Short-time Night-time: RD$500 - RD$1,200
Toda la Noche: RD$1,000 - RD$2,500
-Helpmann :)
With the exception of Toda la Noche. If she wants more than 2000 she had better look like J Lo or Halle. Thats if she' is coming fom Duarte. If u get her from the capital or she is a "regular' girl and you just want her, then go for it.
I Travel Abroad
12-27-06, 03:40
I was in Boca from Nov 29th thru Dec 2, and it was a GHOST TOWN. No Disco's No Clubs and hardly any new faces. I don't know if any of you guys know a little short dude named Geral but he speaks english and he is always on the STRIP in Boca. He was telling me that the tourism in Boca has decreased tremendously and the girls a suffering. They really need a live Club with a slammin DJ to get Boca Chica jumpin off again.
Mr Enternational
12-27-06, 05:36
I was in Boca from Nov 29th thru Dec 2, and it was a GHOST TOWN. No Disco's No Clubs and hardly any new faces. I don't know if any of you guys know a little short dude named Geral but he speaks english and he is always on the STRIP in Boca. He was telling me that the tourism in Boca has decreased tremendously and the girls a suffering. They really need a live Club with a slammin DJ to get Boca Chica jumpin off again.I was last there in August. Damn the DJ and the club. Do they still have that mignight curfew? That really sucked and can dampen anyone's spirits when they travel so far only to find out that they have to be inside at midnight. I was planing to head back in the next couple of months but thanks to this post I will forget about it.
Boca Chica is Dead because the government wants it dead, they started cleaning up Boca Chica in early 2005, by raiding the masajes and closing bars/discos catering to chicas, the place never has been the same since. I doubt it will change. When Hippolito was president, Boca Chica was booming.
Thats too bad I've been planning a trip there for two weeks and wanted to base myself in boca chica and tour the south coast. Ive done the north coast twice.
It seems to me the only options are paying an average of $60/70 US dollars in the capital or go to sosua and eat leftovers over and over again.
*** Is the boca chica problem just at night? Can you get girls during the day? (its been written before that you can but what about now)
I usually do that anyway since I like to enjoy daytime activities when Im there. Also I would think any business at this point would be appreciated by the girls.
Any comments? I'd hate to not do this trip.
I would like to go to other non mongering areas as well so there is always a possibility .
I was there for Thanksgiving and all was well. The street is where all the action is and there were many girls. I saw a few fine ones also. Walk the main drag at night where they close the street and the two discos across from each other have plenty of action. I also noticed a massage place across from hotel El Candil. Right now is Christmas so could be slow.
Suerte
Tom Gueguen
12-30-06, 15:27
I was there for Thanksgiving and all was well. The street is where all the action is and there were many girls. I saw a few fine ones also. Walk the main drag at night where they close the street and the two discos across from each other have plenty of action. I also noticed a massage place across from hotel El Candil. Right now is Christmas so could be slow.
SuerteDo you remember the name of the discos you're talking about?
Boca Chica at night is DEAD!
Nevertheless, who in their right mind would take a pre-2005 "Duarte" girl home? "Duarte" girls are notorious for being awful fucks before and after the 2005 crackdown!
If you're traveling to Boca Chica and you want a good fuck at a reasonable price (RD$500-RD$1,000), spend your Saturday and Sunday afternoons fucking and getting phone numbers for the evening! There are only two places one must go to find girls in Boca Chica, the beach and the park!
Don't spend your time walking around like a chicken with its head cut-off, get a chair (and a beer) and wait, like a tigre. Tigres don't waste energy walking around the Serengeti. They pick a spot, the best spot, and they wait for the gazelles.
What is the best spot? The best spot has the best view of the highest frequency of foot traffic in the area. Examples: the bars and restaurants nearest to the main entrance to Boca Chica beach, a park bench nearest to the main bus stop in the city. However, unlike a tigre, you don't want to have a great view and be hidden in the grass, you want to have a great view and be noticed.
How do you get noticed? Well, you look like a guy who's in Boca Chica to buy pussy (I don't have the time to explain.) Perhaps you have a boombox playing the most recent Dominican hits (young girls like Reggaeton.) Perhaps you get a beach chair that places you less than 10 feet from any woman that walks by the most congested area on the beach. Just remember there are good ways to get noticed and bad ways to get noticed (I don't have the time to explain.) Nevertheless, just make sure you're not the gazelle!
There are plenty of tigresses (Duarte Girls) who "moonlight" as daytime putas as well. Below are some stereotypical hints to help you better discern the novice's from the "Duarte Girls" on a Sunday at Boca Chica beach.
Good Luck!
Helpmann :)
Duarte Girls:
1. 2-3 Girls walking together wearing blue jeans
2. Girls 21+
3. Haitians (dark brown - black complexion)
4. Serious face
5. Alone or with a man close by (pimp)
6. Aloof and/or aggressive
7. Fake breasts
Novice Girls:
1. 2-3 Girls walking together wearing swim suits
2. Girls <20
3. Dominicanas (light brown - white complexion)
4. Smiling face
5. Always with friends
6. Shy and needs coaxing
7. Natural breasts
Marc Anthony
01-01-07, 05:02
Thanks for the report Helpman. You've got me curious. When you've got the time, what are the right and wrong ways to be noticed? Any other BC tips?
I will be in the DR next month for about a week flying into POP. I have the ability to get around the country by driving and plan to spend some time in PP and Sosua enjoying the chicas.
For mongering activities, is it even worth my while to go to Boca Chica and plant myself at the beach or park? Or should I just enjoy the areas mentioned above?
Any other areas of the country I should consider? Let me know. Thanks in advance for your help.
I will be in the DR next month for about a week flying into POP. I have the ability to get around the country by driving and plan to spend some time in PP and Sosua enjoying the chicas.
For mongering activities, is it even worth my while to go to Boca Chica and plant myself at the beach or park? Or should I just enjoy the areas mentioned above?
Any other areas of the country I should consider? Let me know. Thanks in advance for your help.What makes Boca Chica special is a Sunday at the beach and that it's 35 minutes from Santo Domingo. When it slows down in Boca Chica (and it will), you can always head to the capital.
With 7-days, it's not worth traveling to Boca Chica. Because you're on the North Coast, if you had 10-days, I would recommend checking out Santo Domingo. If you had 14-days, I would recommend checking out Boca Chica. Because you're on the North Coast and have 7-days, you should spend some time in Sosua and at a least one full-day in Santiago checking out the car washes.
-Helpmann :)
Thanks for the report Helpman. You've got me curious. When you've got the time, what are the right and wrong ways to be noticed? Any other BC tips?
Wrong Ways to Get Noticed
1. You Don't Want to Attract a Crowd of Beach Vendors (Just Say No)
2. You Don't Want to Attract Touts (by using/contemplating their services)
3. You Don't Want to Be Confused for a "BC Local" (Don't Dress Ghetto)
4. You Don't Want to Be Confused for a "NYer" (Don't Over-Dress )
5. You Don't Want to Appear Drunk or Incapacitated
Right Ways to Get Noticed
1. You Want to Be Situated in a High Traffic Area (Beach Chair By the Shore)
2. You Want to Be Appear Fun and Friendly (Food and Good Dominican Music)
3. You Want to Appear Patient and Relaxed (Get a Beer and Enjoy the View)
In general, you want to be seen as a tigre, who's there to buy pussy and has done this a hundred times.
BTW: I rarely fuck BC girls that have been working 6+ months. You go to the BC to get the new talent (either a girl who's new to the game or is just trying to pay her bills.) How do you do this? Experience and good network.
-Helpmann :)
Gutter Meat
01-02-07, 00:16
Is Hotel Europa still open in Boca Chica ? What bars & clubs are still open?? Haven't been to Boca in 2+ years.
What makes Boca Chica special is a Sunday at the beach and that it's 35 minutes from Santo Domingo. When it slows down in Boca Chica (and it will), you can always head to the capital.
With 7-days, it's not worth traveling to Boca Chica. Because you're on the North Coast, if you had 10-days, I would recommend checking out Santo Domingo. If you had 14-days, I would recommend checking out Boca Chica. Because you're on the North Coast and have 7-days, you should spend some time in Sosua and at a least one full-day in Santiago checking out the car washes.
-Helpmann :)Thanks Helpman. You mentioned the car washes in Santiago. I did some looking in the forum and really did not find any info on it. I am assuming that it is really not a car wash at all, but maybe it is.
Could you or anyone in the forum expound on the car washes? Where can I find them in Santiago, what goes on in them, cost, etc?
Thanks.
Hi all,
Does someone have been there recently?
Is it really dead?
Just returned from 5 days and 5 nights in BC. By the way that is much to much time for BC. Add to that the quality of the chicas is the pits except on maybe Friday and Saturday. I had a car so I was not locked down. I would have committed suicide with no transportation. There were a couple of days, I just through in the towel and went to the room alone. Yea it was that bad. I actually think I saw Ms Crypt Keeper dancing in front of the disco. I have allways been an advocate of BC even when all the other veterans said it was declining. I am picky but I can accept average. I have to agree with the decline. Fri and Sat were not spectacular but there were a few nice chicas who come in from SD just for the 2 days. The American Disco / Europa had their usual nice looking chicas but no one bothers them. They don't negotiate and they charge is rediculous 2500 to 3000 pesos. I see guys talk to them for a minute and make a break away when the price is given. I could tell when that time was by the dear in the headlight look which came over the guys face. I just sit at the little store / bar across from the American disco and watched. The little disco down the street was still the jumping place in town. There were plenty of chicas, dancing and flaunting outside but the quality was low so it was not a lot of action. The few nice looking ones had a waiting list. I personally don't like seconds, thirds and fourths, when I see the predecessors.
At closing everynight the chicas get desperate, it was funny wathching all the guys congregate at 11 and 1 and just set and wait for the desperate. There is a 3rd bar at the end of Duarte that has open. The strange thing about this place is they appear to be immune from the curfew. The deperate as well as the depressed guys would make the walk down to this place after the curfew on the other discos. Its at the other end of Duarte from the Hamaca close to whre the street divides into 2 streets going different directions. They seem to have a good crowd after the curfew. Where else is there. There were a couple of decent looking chicas at the massage parlor across from the El Candil hotel.
I drove the island again for those who say never drive . No problems, just drive like a maniac and when in DR drive like a Dominican. If you faint at heart , ride a bus or get a driver. Rent a car was no problem, I have done Thrifty and Alamo in SD with no problem. Just make sure you do a through pre rental inspection , noting every scratch, dent or discloration. If I had to advice, stay in SD and go to BC on Fri or Sat night. Sat is probable the stronger. Sunday is great beach watching day. Watch out for the minors in the park. They hang around there because that is the outside permeter of the tourist police in the evnings. But often the National police are setting next to the Church at the other end of the park.
Bedroom Bully
01-18-07, 07:48
Griot,
Thanks for the update, I was contemplating on whether to stay in BC or the Capital this time, but I am leaning more and more towards the Capital.
I like the variety of women in the capital, and the ability to simply say hello, and the next minute hitting the cabanas.
BC has very economical hotels and that small town feel, but the hard core putas at night..
Was the club that you were talking about Burbujas? I heard that it is back in full swing, and they opened two new massage parlors.
So where you suggest me to go in SD if I like a nice holiday, to sunbath, to dance in the night and especially to pick up a different girl every night (possibly no PRO)?
TNX
VEGETA
I don't think it is Burbujas. This place is at the very end of Duarte or beginning depending on your direction. If I remember Burbujas is not far from the park and is a pinkish building. But i could be wrong, I never went to Burbujas when it was open. If it is at the end of the Duarte that could be it.
If you have transportation or know the local buses it is fine to stay in BC and ride the guagua in to SD. Personally I like the luxury of going when and where i please so I take a chance and drive. But I also like the hotel prices in BC. I hate the damm mosquitoes there, I look like I have the measles. Be sure to take repellant / spray.
You variety is definitely in SD. If you are fluent in Espanol, the sky is the limit. I am not so I am around ground zero!
Griot,
Thanks for the update, I was contemplating on whether to stay in BC or the Capital this time, but I am leaning more and more towards the Capital.
I like the variety of women in the capital, and the ability to simply say hello, and the next minute hitting the cabanas.
BC has very economical hotels and that small town feel, but the hard core putas at night..
Was the club that you were talking about Burbujas? I heard that it is back in full swing, and they opened two new massage parlors.
I don't think it is Burbujas. This place is at the very end of Duarte or beginning depending on your direction. If I remember Burbujas is not far from the park and is a pinkish building. But i could be wrong, I never went to Burbujas when it was open. If it is at the end of the Duarte that could be it.
If you have transportation or know the local buses it is fine to stay in BC and ride the guagua in to SD. Personally I like the luxury of going when and where i please so I take a chance and drive. But I also like the hotel prices in BC. I hate the damm mosquitoes there, I look like I have the measles. Be sure to take repellant / spray.
You variety is definitely in SD. If you are fluent in Espanol, the sky is the limit. I am not so I am around ground zero!
Your right, Burbjas is close to the park on the right side, also BC is close enough to the capital to make it a plus.
There's also a nice beach in Andres the next town over towards the capital that has a typico and many local chicas that are not hard core putas. Take Duarte past the park and veer to the right when the road splits and take it all the way before it merges to the highway making a left onto a dirt road which will lead you to the beach, any concho driver will show you, nice place at night to hook up and a nice non-hassel beach spot to relax in the day.
Thanks, I wondered where that dirt road went . I see a lot of traffic on it but I never go because there are allways a lot of locals standing around on it.
I am sure I have been to the beach however just by walking up the coast. It is a very relaxed area when you get to it.
Griot
Your right, Burbjas is close to the park on the right side, also BC is close enough to the capital to make it a plus.
There's also a nice beach in Andres the next town over towards the capital that has a typico and many local chicas that are not hard core putas. Take Duarte past the park and veer to the right when the road splits and take it all the way before it merges to the highway making a left onto a dirt road which will lead you to the beach, any concho driver will show you, nice place at night to hook up and a nice non-hassel beach spot to relax in the day.
Bedroom Bully
01-21-07, 07:33
Thanks for the tip Terry.
As I get more familiar with the culture and the language, I see myself gravitating more towards the non and semi pros.
Gutter Meat
01-23-07, 10:06
Is that one of the old clubs or somthing new ? The old Cosmo's??
Jazzy Daddy
01-23-07, 21:57
It is the club that sits in front of Hotel Europa on Duarte. It is fairly new, it came into being shortly after the BC crackdown.
Thanks for the tip Terry.
As I get more familiar with the culture and the language, I see myself gravitating more towards the non and semi pros.
Thats like UFOs and sea serpents. They likey exist but are seldom seen. Where did you find these willing "non pros'? I've bagged up a few girls from San Andres but In BC mostly Duarte and the occasional park girl.
Marc Anthony
01-31-07, 20:34
I was just trying to make reservations at el candil when I read on DR1 that it's being sold and the old owners are out on Feb10. Any info or recommendations? I liked the airport transfers. Anyone have knowledge of whether los pinos is guest friendly?
Tom Gueguen
02-01-07, 01:40
I was just trying to make reservations at el candil when I read on DR1 that it's being sold and the old owners are out on Feb10. Any info or recommendations? I liked the airport transfers. Anyone have knowledge of whether los pinos is guest friendly?Yes, it is but quite far away from action.
Can anyone confirm this? Peteri and his mate are the coolest and most hospitable guys on that side of BC. I really hope the new owners (if this is true) are as good. Probably not better.
Marc Anthony
02-01-07, 13:15
Going by the bocachicabeach site map (which is all I have to go by) Los Pinos is right across the street from Costa Lunga (which is widely cited as guest friendly and reasonably close) and just 1 block further north from Candil. Any problems/issues with the place? I'd just do Costa Lunga but saving $40 on airport transfers when that's the price of a room or a good chica (or even 2) seems worthwhile if there isn't a serious downside.
The Candil has been sold to another company. I guess they were losing business because of the curfew.
The Candil has been sold to another company. I guess they were losing business because of the curfew.
Can anyone expound on the specifics of the curfew. The DR isnt a police state. I 'm just finding it difficult to beleive that the clubs shut down and everyone goes home. That just not typical of Dominican culture.Not even stateside! Does the curfew make the available girls rush to find someone? Does it effect the number of girls available. I apologize for sounding like such a rookie but its been almost a year since my last visit and I just really cant imagine going to BC or SD under those conditions.
Going by the bocachicabeach site map (which is all I have to go by) Los Pinos is right across the street from Costa Lunga (which is widely cited as guest friendly and reasonably close) and just 1 block further north from Candil. Any problems/issues with the place? I'd just do Costa Lunga but saving $40 on airport transfers when that's the price of a room or a good chica (or even 2) seems worthwhile if there isn't a serious downside.Nice place, stayed there a few times. decent room, kitchen, cable TV and lockbox. Oh yeah chica friendly as well, only downside for me is no pool.
Grand Pollo
02-02-07, 01:47
Going by the bocachicabeach site map (which is all I have to go by) Los Pinos is right across the street from Costa Lunga (which is widely cited as guest friendly and reasonably close) and just 1 block further north from Candil. Any problems/issues with the place? I'd just do Costa Lunga but saving $40 on airport transfers when that's the price of a room or a good chica (or even 2) seems worthwhile if there isn't a serious downside.
It is an apartment house with 2 or 3 apartments for rent on the ground floor. Big rooms, good AC, showers, cash only place, limited guard annoyances and very secure. I paid $35 cash I think 2 1/2 years ago. I didn't think he picked you up and I'd imagine you would wait a while for that guy even if he said he would, a little old and laid back for a reliable chauffeur.
Big downside no pool.
Big upside is there is a steel grill on every window and the door to the room that locks with a key so you can lock the girls in as well as out. A tip to the guard out front would prevent any runners for sure as there is a gated yard as well.
Mr Enternational
02-02-07, 04:33
I stayed at the Costa Lunga last September. I think each apartment had 2 bedrooms but only one room had air conditioner. The room with the kitchen had the air conditioner. So my friend and I opted to get 2 apartments for $40 each instead of 1 apartment for $60. Very chica friendly. In fact, the chicas hang out on the couches that are on the front foyer. As a matter of fact, the only P4P that we did was from chicas who were hanging out there. And there were even a couple of chicas who had apartments there themselves. One of them even gave me a free sample. She sucked my dick like she made up dick sucking. Anyway, they do have a pool.
And you can get a taxi from the airport for $15. Of course they will ask for $20 but you gotta talk shit to them to get them down. I found that it is good if you tell them you will want them to come back and pick you up on your departure day for another $15 as well. That way you don't have to worry about calling or flagging a taxi and they are happy with the 15. Our guy showed back up on time but we had to ditch him by lying and saying we decided to stay an extra day because one of my non-pros had decided she would drive us to the airport in her car.
I stayed at the Costa Lunga last September. I think each apartment had 2 bedrooms but only one room had air conditioner. The room with the kitchen had the air conditioner. So my friend and I opted to get 2 apartments for $40 each instead of 1 apartment for $60. Very chica friendly. In fact, the chicas hang out on the couches that are on the front foyer. As a matter of fact, the only P4P that we did was from chicas who were hanging out there. And there were even a couple of chicas who had apartments there themselves. One of them even gave me a free sample. She sucked my dick like she made up dick sucking. Anyway, they do have a pool.
And you can get a taxi from the airport for $15. Of course they will ask for $20 but you gotta talk shit to them to get them down. I found that it is good if you tell them you will want them to come back and pick you up on your departure day for another $15 as well. That way you don't have to worry about calling or flagging a taxi and they are happy with the 15. Our guy showed back up on time but we had to ditch him by lying and saying we decided to stay an extra day because one of my non-pros had decided she would drive us to the airport in her car.Only the first floor apartments are 2 bedrooms, i have never paid more than 40 for the first floor 2 bedrooms, actually he charges the same for all rooms.
Mr Enternational
02-03-07, 03:53
Only the first floor apartments are 2 bedrooms, i have never paid more than 40 for the first floor 2 bedrooms, actually he charges the same for all rooms.Yeah you are right. When my friend took the one on the 2nd floor his was 1 room. But if both of us had stayed in the one downstairs he was going to charge us 60 for the 2 br or 30 each because we would be utilizing both rooms.
I'm heading to BC and SD on the 27th. This will be my third trip is as many years. I'm wondering if anyone has stayed at EC recently. I've read that since Francesco and Abby are no longer associatesd with the hotel that it is not as good.
I'd appreciate any information, Thanks. Sailor02
Bedroom Bully
02-09-07, 04:16
Guys,
I just got back from a two week trip. Myself and the novia decided to stay a few days in BC.
We hit Burbujas and Makumba and the first thing the novias says is "my gosh even the Hatitian *****s of Sosua have better weaves and nice clothes"
She further adds, "I think we have discovered the place where all the ugly and used up *****s wind up"
Right now use BC only for its cheap hotels (I paid 40 a night for a love suite) its close proximity to other areas like San Pedro, La Romana, San Cristobal and the Santo Domingo.
You have been warned. Ask away if you have any questions.
Tom Gueguen
02-10-07, 01:46
Guys,
I just got back from a two week trip. Myself and the novia decided to stay a few days in BC.
We hit Burbujas and Makumba and the first thing the novias says is "my gosh even the Hatitian *****s of Sosua have better weaves and nice clothes"
She further adds, "I think we have discovered the place where all the ugly and used up *****s wind up"
Right now use BC only for its cheap hotels (I paid 40 a night for a love suite) its close proximity to other areas like San Pedro, La Romana, San Cristobal and the Santo Domingo.
You have been warned. Ask away if you have any questions.Thanks for the update.
It always good to disgust too many mongers to come in BC;
There's more for the others ;-)
My Heart Is Breaking. Bc Is Known For Being Inconsistent But Is It Really That Bad Now? How Many Girls On A Given Night? How Many Hatinas Vs Dominicanas? Looks Are Realative But Give Me An Indicator.i Dont Really Journey To The North But Maybe I Should Start Looking That Way. I Usually Like To Stay In Bc Because Its Close To The Capital.please Tell Me Its Not That Bad. Was Gonna Go For My B Day This Summer.
Bedroom Bully
02-10-07, 16:34
I'm going to do a trip report soon, and you can see what I consider quality. Majority of the girls were ran down coke *****s. a few were doable, but did not justify the 3hour flight.
If you know spanish or have a trusted guide, just walk around San Andreas (about 5 mins away) or rent a jeep and just have the music blasting..the first one that gives eye contact just invite her for a ride.
80% of the time, we wind up heading straight to the cabanas.
Yo Fellas,
This can't be true, dead and stinking? What? I justed booked a 10 day stay the first weekend in March. Never been up north maybe I should give it a shot.
Bedroom Bully
02-13-07, 02:47
Yo Fellas,
This can't be true, dead and stinking? What? I justed booked a 10 day stay the first weekend in March. Never been up north maybe I should give it a shot.I like having high quality girls by my side, so if you like old used up *****s then you'll love BC.
I will return the BC, but only to use its cheap hotels and its easy access to other areas on the island.
A local friend of mine tells me that the girls cycle around the island. Meaning they travel every other week to ***** in a new area, maybe it was just a bad week.
If you do go, be prepared to check out the capital or you might get lucky and catch a few semi pro SP girls looking to make rent this month.
Spent the last 5 days in BC and SD. I stayed in BC in El Candil. I saw Peter and his family off. Saturday was their swan song. They were sad but ready to move on to a new business venture in SD. They will be contacting their loyal clients about the new venture. I will not steal their thunder. Too early to tell anything about the new owners. I don't expect a big change. But I did see someone getting back massage the next day by the pool. Never saw that in the old reign.
But as for BC. I will not be as critical or hard on it as previous posters. The quality is down, but from what I here it has never matched the other side of the island in years. Yes there are the regulars that I have been seeing for the last year in a half. The weekends are not as active as previous times. Saturday was very dissapointing, nothing but locals and not the highest quality then. Friday was only half decent. I will agree, you are not likly to fine many 7, 8, 9, and 10's in BC. About the highest quality you will fine will set in front of the American Disco and ask for outrageous prices 2500-3000 pesos. As a result they do just that most of the time sit. These are only 6 or 7's at the best. There is a new disco in BC almost across from the one named Piano something. There is also still the after curfew place at the end of Duarte. I think they avoid the curfew because it is totally indoor or either some official gets his palm greased. The chicas that have no luck and a few pesos head down there to try their luck there. I was told they have to pay to enter. I can't confirm that however. One did ask for 100 pesos to get in. In summary as some have said before if you have high standards in chicas BC is probable not your place even on weekends. If you just want to hang out, drink and have a decent time and get hit on by less than average to average chicas, both Hatian and Dominican, BC is the place. I would say the percentage was maybe 60-65% Dominican chicas to 35-40% Hatian. You never truly know, the complexion and eyes are not accurate in many situations.
Other than cheap hotels and a Sunday afternoon at the beach, I NEVER recommend Boca Chica. I am much quicker to recommend Rio as a single traveler destination. If the guy has his heart (or wallet) set on the Dominican Republic than I recommend Sosua.
When I say that Boca Chica isn't for me newbies, I mean Boca Chica isn't for guys who aren't Boca Chica regulars. If I can't find what I'm looking for, I can drive to the homes of the girls I know. Those girls can hook me up with the fresh talent. I give the friend RD$200-500 and the "freshness" RD$600-$800.
While Rio is open to all, Boca Chica isn't for everyone, not anymore.
BTW: I am in Boca Chica next weekend. If anyone's up for drinks, send me a PM, so I can give you my DR cell#. I should be free much of next weekend; I just recently left my DR girlfriend (18-year-old shorty, size-1, anal & DP talented.)
-Helpmann ;)
Marc Anthony
02-19-07, 03:31
I just returned from my first trip to Boca Chica and second to Sosua. I've been a long time reader of this forum and DR1's regular Dominican forum but my experience is limited to a prior trip in 2002 to the hotel in Costambar that became Blackbeards and a trip out of Toronto to Casa Marina in 2004.
What I wanted to do was get a bit more independent and see a little more of the country without getting to far out of my depth. I tried to book El Candil because it was the universal choice at DR1 and here but they didn't respond to my emails (likely due to the ownership changeover) so I booked Costalunga instead. I was pleasantly surprised by the place. A straight $40 US gets a pleasant room with good air in a quiet fairly tasteful boutique hotel. Nice pool shaded by a mature tropical garden. Wall safe, cable tv, well maintained, no problems at all. I guess back in the good old days it got to be a bit wild but it's now a very laid back pleasant place to live. It's right across the street from candil - across the street running perpendicular to the beach and is very shaded and concealed by it's garden and walls.
I did the cell phone thing, taking an old gsm phone I had, looking on the web I found free unlocking (for old nokia models this seems very easy). It cost about 300 pesos to activate it on Orange and I put a few hundred more on it. For $15 I had a cell phone I was very familiar with, never had any problems making calls either to the US or local. The Orange store is near the main coast highway on the street that runs past hamaca into Duarte and the beach.
The costalunga rooms include a fridge which is very convenient. There's a colmado on the corner and a couple of markets a bit bigger in town.
The first thing about walking around the beach area (pretty much the same in sosua) is that you get hit on constantly by people trying to sell you something. Relax and enjoy it. In a couple days of exposure you will get more comfortable with it and they get to know you as no longer fresh meat and it almost goes away completely. The only real connection this has to mongering is that one of the things that impress me most is how "liberal" in the classic sense the DR is. Everybody has some kind of hustle going. Shoe shine boys to colmados to the attitudes of chicas. There is respect for the idea that people get what they want through dealing. Guys on the street or the beach have a right to ask if you want something. They fail a lot, most people say no, but they have to just keep on asking. The DR is generally a place to ask for what you want. Maybe the answer is no but you won't be faulted for asking. There is a lot of failure around. Failure is most definitely an option. It's OK. You just keep trying.
I can definitely understand Helpman's points about Boca Chica. It has real potential if you can get deeper into this culture. I was there last Sunday when vast numbers of of Dominicans came in from Santo Domingo. Lots of potential talent there. I also saw some stunners on the arms of older guys but generally they seemed to be imports.
I made the mistake of giving in to one rather skanky skinny dark chica and following her into a bar largely because I wanted a beer anyway and was getting a bit worn down. I ended up being unable to do more than down it quickly and get out because she and her friend were so desperately all over me it was uncomfortable. In the process I noticed she was an actual crack head. I had a ancient relationship with a girl who smoked crack and it has a very distinctive smell in sweat and hair I've never forgotten. I'd never smelled that on a dominican chica before. On the positive side there didn't seem to be lots of crack ho's but there were a few both in BC and sosua. Shortly afterward I rebounded into the Piano Bar disco where I was grabbed by a friendly chubby bunch of chicas who at least weren't desperate for coca.
The group leader kind of assigned a chica to me and she worked on me to get a massaje. Bargain, bargain, I didn't really want her but what the hell, 1000 pesos. Back to the room. OK massage.BBBJ no completion because I didn't want to. I could see how the exercize worked. No real walk of shame. Somebody just always whatching the gate from the internet center and if a chica is brough in they ask for the cedula. Very easy and normal and I can see that it provides the customer with a layer of security both from getting ripped off or having problems with the chica and any age issues since the cedula is looked at and held by third parties who have better knowledge of fakes. Later I ended up doing it again with the same crowd at Piano bar. Everybody welcomes me like a long lost rich uncle. I sit at their table on Duarte. Not many discos or many independant chicas. To Helpman's Tigres and Gazelles I would add Hippos. They're not carnivorous but can be dangerous if provoked. I'd fallen in with hippos. Oh well. Try again to break out of the comfort zone and just ask a chica that I really want.
The best looking girls on Duarte seemed to be bar employees. I eventually took one bartender named Xiomara out and had a nice evening and great sex but sad to report gave her 3000 pesos (including her salida). No money had even been mentioned until saying goodbye and it's hard to not want to seem generous with a very pretty girl you've just spent a couple hours banging every possible way . I was at the time thinking of making her into a several day GFE and looked at it as a downpayment. She was very happy to hang with me before and after work. However before I could change my plans and have Xiomara show me Santo Domingo (she was a Boca Chica native and attended the school right next to Costalunga) I found out that the hotel was fully booked and I couldn't extend my stay there. I already had reservations at the Europa in Sosua so I took it as a sign to move on.
To be continued.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I'll be in BC next Tuesday (2-27). I'll be staying at the Costa Lunga since Francesco and Abby are no longer with Elcaucho.
Bosco, maybe I'll se you at Playa Vista, and I hope to meet others from this site.
Be safe, Sailor02
Tom Gueguen
03-10-07, 21:21
I am heading down there for 3 or 4 days at the end of the week.
Feel free to PM me for a drink and sharing infos.
Tom
Anyone have a working email address for Costalunga?
CostaLunga@codetel.net.do
I just got back.
Grand Pollo
03-14-07, 01:17
Italian hotelier murdered
An Italian businessman has been murdered in Boca Chica. Diario Libre reports that 63-year old Albino Brighenti (Yorgi), who owned the Costa Lunga Hotel, was riding his motorbike when the assailants, who were fleeing from an attempted robbery, tried to take his motorbike from him. The assailants, armed with two 9-millimeter pistols, shot Brighenti three times, inflicting fatal wounds to the lungs and kidneys. Moments later the assailants were intercepted and gunned down by police. Police identified Carlos Feliz Santana as one of the assailants. Both bodies were transferred to the Forensic Pathology Institute in Santo Domingo.
Tom Gueguen
03-14-07, 01:25
Italian hotelier murdered
An Italian businessman has been murdered in Boca Chica. Diario Libre reports that 63-year old Albino Brighenti (Yorgi), who owned the Costa Lunga Hotel, was riding his motorbike when the assailants, who were fleeing from an attempted robbery, tried to take his motorbike from him. The assailants, armed with two 9-millimeter pistols, shot Brighenti three times, inflicting fatal wounds to the lungs and kidneys. Moments later the assailants were intercepted and gunned down by police. Police identified Carlos Feliz Santana as one of the assailants. Both bodies were transferred to the Forensic Pathology Institute in Santo Domingo.
It's frightening!
Victor Lazlo
03-14-07, 06:56
Did you know him? I know you used to stay at Costalunga. And yes, better to lose your motorbike than your life.
Any word on where this actually occurred? That area around Costalunga and El Candil has always seemed pretty safe.
It's frightening!
offcourse it is....but lets NOT get paranoid here guys.
This sh*t happens all over the planet. In every mayor city over 100.000 people car-jackings,robberies,murder(!),drugs problems(!!!) are very "normal".....and sometimes even in smaller cities aswell...
In westerm-Europe main problem is DRUGS....house breaking in....and car thefts..!!(ie car jacking).
OO and once in awhile we get our "smalltown" pshyco's that march in a school or any other building and start shooting down innocent people...!!
Normaly if you stay lowprofile..leave your rolex at home,stay sober if you are after girls/SW-ers and don't flash arround your bucks or euros nothing will happen to you. Just use your common sense.
Hell i felt more safe in SD then on any given moment in a NY subway!!!!!!!!!(the day i had to spend over night on JFK...)
Remember this is NOT paradise;-)
Johan
Grand Pollo
03-15-07, 00:18
Boca Chica is where it happened and there are maybe 5,000 people.
Crime and Despair. Worse than this happens in Rio,Cali, Manila, Lagos, and other destinations. I dont see that detering anyone. I was on Duarte a few years back. A kid shot himself in the disco bathroom in an atempt to commit suicide.Everyone cried for 30 minutes and then it was back to getting money for all the sick mothers by the girls who all coincidentaly had their "birthdays" in the same afternoon.
Marc Anthony
03-15-07, 11:31
I agree that this incident is nothing special to the DR. However there seem to be indications of rising crime and a pattern. I've only traveled to the DR over 5 years but over that time there seems to be more local coca use. The DR has long been a transfer point for coca shipments to the US but for a long time that business didn't spill over that much into local sales. Five years ago I had the sense that local sales were to rich kids and isolated from the barrios. This february I found putas on Duarte who are crackheads - I could easily have missed it before but it's the first I noticed. All that the international trade did was introduce money and corruption. The local trade can carry the usual cycle of social disfunction that drives crime rates up.
Any opinions from those who have traveled to or lived in the DR for some time? I wouldn't consider any of this a reason to stop visiting the country but I think it's worth discussing.
Grand Pollo
03-16-07, 00:28
2 years ago, the days when the girls were not asking idiotic amounts and the peso was 50+ to 1 (vs. todays ridiculous prices on everything), the cholos and tigres LOVED their guns, I can only imagine 2 years later there are more cholos and more guns.
Guns don't kill people, but cholos, robbers, and asshole Dominicans guys with guns do.
All in all, I think Boca Chica is still pretty safe. Just don't fight two armed robbers on the lam armed with 9mm pistols.
2 years ago, the days when the girls were not asking idiotic amounts and the peso was 50+ to 1 (vs. todays ridiculous prices on everything), the cholos and tigres LOVED their guns, I can only imagine 2 years later there are more cholos and more guns.
Guns don't kill people, but cholos, robbers, and asshole Dominicans guys with guns do.
All in all, I think Boca Chica is still pretty safe. Just don't fight two armed robbers on the lam armed with 9mm pistols.You haven't been to BC in awhile. That was 3 years ago.
-Helpmann ;)
You haven't been to BC in awhile. That was 3 years ago.
-Helpmann ;)
Back in the Days when he was known as "Grand Pollo de Boca Chica"
Back in the Days when he was known as "Grand Pollo de Boca Chica"
That was precisely July/August of 2004. Pres Hipólito Mejía "el gran burro" was the lame duck President and the country was collapsing financially.
I received RDP 55-1, in a casa de cambio on Ave Tiradentes in early July of that year! :)
I had a long-ass vacation and spent 28 days in the capital SDQ the entire time. Between the exchange rate and the fact that the casas de citas, and restaurantes weren't able to keep up with the falling currency - I felt like BoBo Rockefeller down there! :D
Everything was soooo cheap, and available.
Thanks for permiting me to take a walk down memory lane - "now back to our regular programming........"
FORD
Grand Pollo
03-16-07, 23:09
You haven't been to BC in awhile. That was 3 years ago.
-Helpmann ;)
No reason to after the peso situation and the amazing fact that people actually pay BC girls 1000, 1500, 2500 for what was $8 2 years ago.
...what was $8 2 years ago.US$8.00 2-years ago (2005)? I have to see these "ladies." Nevertheless, maybe you got your numbers mixed-up and you meant 3-years ago (2004.) US$8.00 seems a bit low. Maybe you got that number wrong too.
-Helpmann :D
Grand Pollo
03-19-07, 00:13
Used to have 6 regulars come to the Costalunga for appointments and they got RD$400 for an hour when it was $1:50, so $8. They got RD$400 when it was $1:35 too of course. Yes it was 2004, last time was Labour Day my all nighter was RD$1200 from 6 p.m. to 10 a.m. the next day, so $24.
Now what is it? An hour for RD$1500 or $50? All night $100? Not for those girls then and I bet they are not near as much fun now.
...Yes it was 2004, last time was Labour Day my all nighter was RD$1200 from 6 p.m. to 10 a.m. the next day, so $24.Your price quote of US$24 implies an F/X rate of 1:50 over the Labor Day Weekend. Because "I was in Boca Chica" over the 2004 Labor Day Weekend, I know the rates weren't even near 1:50, which your price quote implies. F/X rates over the Labor Day Weekend were approx. between 1:35 - 1:36 (US$33 - US$34.)
Are you sure you didn't mix-up your numbers again?
Now what is it? An hour for RD$1500 or $50? All night $100? Not for those girls then and I bet they are not near as much fun now.Sorry again. Yes, some of the same guys are paying US$100, but ST prices are RD$500 - RD$1,000 (US$15 - US$30) and LT prices are RD$1,000 - RD$2,000 (US$30 - US$60.)
-Helpmann :)
Is this the correct email for El Candil? res.candil@verizon.net.do
With the new administration at El Caucho are they still chica friendly?
My weekend flight was cancelled due to a snowstorm and I need to make a last minute room reservation for this upcoming weekend.
Other than Costalunga, El Candil, and El Caucho are there any other hotels with a website for booking a room?
Whats the latest in BC? Is Candil running how it once did?Anybody there???
Hey guys,
I and my friend, we are two single guys will be staying at Boca Chica on the 8th of April to 11th of April. We will be staying at El Candil. Any feedback as to where to find chicas/their contact numbers/rate would be very much appreciated.
Regards,
Ryan
Tom Gueguen
03-28-07, 23:35
Hey guys,
I and my friend, we are two single guys will be staying at Boca Chica on the 8th of April to 11th of April. We will be staying at El Candil. Any feedback as to where to find chicas/their contact numbers/rate would be very much appreciated.
Regards,
Ryan
They are everywhere and they will find you....
Member #2748
03-29-07, 20:23
Can anyone tell me how far Sosua is from Boca Chica thanks.
47 hours by bus. 3.5 hour by jet.
Can anyone tell me how far Sosua is from Boca Chica thanks.
Ive known people to make the trip via rental but no one cn actually provide a time. How long DOES it take via rental car?
Ive known people to make the trip via rental but no one cn actually provide a time. How long DOES it take via rental car?The Caribe Tours bus takes about 4 hours from central Santo Domingo, so I would say that since you won't have to make stops it might take about the same time. The buses go pretty fast on the stretch between SD and Santiago. After that the road through the mountains is a bit slower, and then the final stretch from Puerto Plata to Sosua is fairly straighforward.
This is assuming that you don't get lost. Navigation wise the hardest part would be getting through Santo Domingo and out onto the highway to Santiago. I have only done this route by taxi and bus, so don't know exactly how difficult it is.
Can anyone tell me how far Sosua is from Boca Chica thanks.5 hours - Take the Caribe Tours bus in Sosua to Santo Domingo. Once in Santo Domingo take a cab to Sosua. Cost $30-$40 all depending on how well you can negotiate with the cabbie.
Victor Lazlo
03-30-07, 09:59
I don't know about "as the crow flies", but by highway it's just about 175 miles.
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