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It would be significant when this was.
On the 4th, they can expect a lot of business, so as the number of clients is high, the number of chicas matches it.
During slow periods (early in the week/day) when there few clients, the girls would rather not waste their time sitting around for nothing. In such cases, they usually are permitted to beg off and take care of family, errands, etc..
In such instances, talk to the mama-san, have her call in a girl for you. (They often post pics from the last contest on the wall).
From what I am told, there has been very little business at the hotel lately and the girls are desperate to pay off bills, debts, etc.
One I know was planning to go to Sosua last night with some others, even though she hates that place, - just because she needs the money so badly.Well following up on my previous post I was there from a Thur thru Mon at the end of Aug and it was packed with guest, just as many as on the 4th it appeared. So I don't know why some of the girls were only seen one time and some not at all. I tried to book an early date a month and half out and it was full so I had to change my dates. I was told Nov was also very full when I booked while down there. Yes I am booking long weekends and I am sure or rather know during the week it is slow but it doesn't explain why the girls aren't showing up most of the weekend when people are there. I understand people don't like working weekends but even many of us have to do that. Like I posted before I attributed it to just bad timing but after reading some of these posts maybe that isn't necessarily true. Well see and I am sure John will get it straightened out.
Well following up on my previous post I was there from a Thur thru Mon at the end of Aug and it was packed with guest, just as many as on the 4th it appeared. So I don't know why some of the girls were only seen one time and some not at all. I tried to book an early date a month and half out and it was full so I had to change my dates. I was told Nov was also very full when I booked while down there. Yes I am booking long weekends and I am sure or rather know during the week it is slow but it doesn't explain why the girls aren't showing up most of the weekend when people are there. I understand people don't like working weekends but even many of us have to do that. Like I posted before I attributed it to just bad timing but after reading some of these posts maybe that isn't necessarily true. Well see and I am sure John will get it straightened out.
The current setup consists of a "day" shift (1100-1800) and a "night" shift (1800-Midnight?). Supposedly this provides a minimum number on hand. If they don't show up or are late, they get fined. I was there end of July and yes, days were still slow, with only about 8-10 around at any one time. Weekends there were much more, especially for the mandatory events, ie, lingerie night (at least when I was there).
My understanding is that the girls need the cash, so if there are customers at the hotel, most are happy to have the business.
(Was told this week was dead, and girls sat around with no customers around). Like I said, some were so in need of cash, some were going to tty Sosua on their days off, looking for work.
Seems like fishing, sometimes hot, sometimes cold.
No explanation here.
I was there 4th of July weekend on a Tuesday morning and there was maybe 5 hot looking ones amongst others.
Last saturday afternoon 530 pm or so nothing I liked not even one.Maybe the good looking ones bailed to Cabarette ?Sosua has had alot of Police crackdowns every night I was there.Not many good looking ones is Sosua that is for sure.
I was there 4th of July weekend on a Tuesday morning and there was maybe 5 hot looking ones amongst others.
Last saturday afternoon 530 pm or so nothing I liked not even one.Maybe the good looking ones bailed to Cabarette ?Sosua has had alot of Police crackdowns every night I was there.Not many good looking ones is Sosua that is for sure.
I was there on the July 4th weekend also. Must have been an ISG convention at BBs but I just didn't know about it. I met several guys down there, including Doker breifly (nice guy), but for some reason I spent more time that trip hanging out with the chicas instead of guy time.
DW, don't know if I met you then, but looking for chicas at 5:30 pm is a bad time because the afternoon shift leaves in a half hour and the new crop shows up at six. This afternoon and evening shift thing requires a little adjustment in strategy than before.
I stayed at BB's twice, and twice my bar tab had been greased. Girls ordering drinks (Hennessy etc) on my tab. Without my authorization.
I've read of many guys having a similar experience at BB's. If the management wanted that practice stopped. It would not exist today, but it does.
I've never had a problem with this type of situation at FOD, so they now have my business. If BB's had taken care of business properly they never would have lost mine!
There was one chica at BBs who was "famous" for ordering Hennessy's without the clients knowledge. Real cute little spinner that I forget her name, but she is no longer there. Check you bar tab the day before you leave. Really, the chicas will try and push things unless you let them know you are in charge. At least here you have someone in management to go to if you feel taken advantage of. With the exception of Lapassions, comepare that to Sosua.
I was in touch with a chica I'm close to, and she related some wierd stuff going on at BB.
..............What's the low-down?
I was not down there, but some of my sources seem to collaborate what you posted happened last week.
I sure hope this kind of stuff doesn't impact BBs negatively. John has a good thing going there and the downturn in the economy is pretty much a global occurrence. Taking it out on the employees is not the way to go.
There was one chica at BBs who was "famous" for ordering Hennessy's without the clients knowledge. Real cute little spinner that I forget her name, but she is no longer there. Check you bar tab the day before you leave. Really, the chicas will try and push things unless you let them know you are in charge. At least here you have someone in management to go to if you feel taken advantage of. With the exception of Lapassions, comepare that to Sosua.
Hennessy? Damn, it would not have been hard to track that one down.
No wonder she's out.
I made it a custom to tell the the bar staff that only I placed bar orders, and if anyone wanted anything on my tab, I had to approve it. Simple.
Alex Deuce
09-13-09, 19:47
Hennessy? Damn, it would not have been hard to track that one down.
No wonder she's out.
I made it a custom to tell the the bar staff that only I placed bar orders, and if anyone wanted anything on my tab, I had to approve it. Simple.
Actually of all the girls I have known 60% liked Hennessy and tried to order it! My boy drinks it I love grey goose! Shiat gives me a headache!
Philippe22
09-15-09, 03:09
I was in touch with a chica I'm close to, and she related some wierd stuff going on at BB.
Seems this week John, the owner, called all the staff and chicas to a meeting where he went ape-shit.
Said that there weren't enough guests coming in, that no one was doing their jobs.
Blamed the lack of guests on the chicas; that they were overcharging and lying to the guests (? ).
Allegedly he threatened to close the hotel, giving them a date of 1 November.
Took each chica aside and chewed them out individually.
Then proceeded to suspend a bunch of them.
I ge the impression this guy is imploding.
He has always had a personality problem exacerbated by a drinking problem, but hotels all over are down due to the global economic crisis.
I can only say if he destroys that business that so many depend on for their livelihoods, that FOD can use the opportunity to take over the business. (If they choose to emphasize the selection of chicas available, etc).
Anybody there now?
What's the low-down? I was thinking about going to BB in novermber but I'm kind of worried.
How are things there right now? Will the place close in November?
Blackops93
09-15-09, 06:11
Finally I have managed to swing a trip to DR without the ball n chain under the premise of a dive trip. So I'll probably get in a couple of dives in between sampling the local talent.
What I wanted to find out is what the procedure is in DR. I'm use to just freelancing but from what I've read there is A certain code of conduct in DR when dealing with the ladies. I'll be staying at BB's solo and I want to maximize my opportunities.
Any help would be greatly apreciated.
Roger Dodger 007
09-15-09, 07:20
I was thinking about going to BB in novermber but I'm kind of worried.
How are things there right now? Will the place close in November?
The chances of BB closing in November are ZERO!
Finally I have managed to swing a trip to DR without the ball and chain under the premise of a dive trip. So I'll probably get in a couple of dives in between sampling the local talent.
What I wanted to find out is what the procedure is in DR. I'm use to just freelancing but from what I've read there is A certain code of conduct in DR when dealing with the ladies. I'll be staying at BB's solo and I want to maximize my opportunities.
Any help would be greatly apreciated.If your staying at BB theres only one thing you need to never forget, PACE YOURSELF. LOL. Your going to have nonstop access to at least 20 diff. Women at any given time and All you have to do is tell them what you want.
If you make it into town just smile and flirt with the locals and that gets you everywhere.
I will be in Sosua in Oct. And I'm looking forward to my daytrip to BB on Sat. For the bikini contest.
I was thinking about going to BB in novermber but I'm kind of worried.
How are things there right now? Will the place close in November?
Like they say in Aussie-land, "no worries mate".
I am booked for a few days at BBs in November myself and I am not looking to bail because of this. BBs ain't going anywhere soon. Heck, John is not stupid, he would sell the place first before he would just up and close it.
Worst case scenario and you get there and the place is boarded up (which is NOT going to happen), go to FOD or Sosua. It is not like we are talking about a hotel of 500 rooms shutting out their customers. How many rooms are at BBs, 35? 40? This will not overtax the hotels available mentioned above.
Finally I have managed to swing a trip to DR without the ball n chain under the premise of a dive trip. So I'll probably get in a couple of dives in between sampling the local talent.
What I wanted to find out is what the procedure is in DR. I'm use to just freelancing but from what I've read there is A certain code of conduct in DR when dealing with the ladies. I'll be staying at BB's solo and I want to maximize my opportunities.
Any help would be greatly apreciated.
I am not sure what you mean by "code of conduct". Whether you go to BBs, or FOD, the New Garden or even LaPassion, the current "code of conduct" can mean pointing at the chica and saying "You!" and off you go.
I and others here would be glad to help. Please clarify.
Like they say in Aussie-land, "no worries mate".
I am booked for a few days at BBs in November myself and I am not looking to bail because of this. BBs ain't going anywhere soon. Heck, John is not stupid, he would sell the place first before he would just up and close it.
Worst case scenario and you get there and the place is boarded up (which is NOT going to happen), go to FOD or Sosua. It is not like we are talking about a hotel of 500 rooms shutting out their customers. How many rooms are at BBs, 35? 40? This will not overtax the hotels available mentioned above.Ponderosa is dead on like always, I have a trip planned in Nov also and I am worried about the atmosphere not whether it is closed or not. My feeling is it will be a blast like it has always been and I am sure there will be plenty of reports between now and then. John has spent a ton of money on the place which means he isn't closing anything IMO. But the money he has spent on the place also maybe adding pressure.
Traveler04
09-15-09, 22:14
BB's can help you with your diving plan. I have known a few guys that dove while they were at BB's. I don't remember how the dives were but they were pleased by the Dive Store. Email BB's for additional information. On the way to BB's from the airport on the left hand side just past FOD and Playa Dorado there is a Dive store that the guys seemed happy with. If you get BB's to have a taxi meet you at the airport you should be able to tell the taxi driver that you want to stop. There are plenty of guys on this board that can help with the translation to spanish if you ask. Yanqui69 is very good and could help you if you ask him. I think they were picked up at BB's by the store but it has been a while so I could be wrong or things may have changed.
BB's closing won't happen anytime in the near future unless they have someone that is buying the place. The owner has to much money invested in the business to just close up and walk away. He has spent the last year or so doing some costly up grading to the place. If for some reason I am wrong...(sorry) there is always FOD and Sosua. You always have many options anytime of year.
Going solo...not a problem at all!! In fact BB's is the perfect place if you have never been to the DR and speak little or no spanish. The one stop shopping that BB's provides makes it a nice place to get your feet (and other parts of your body) wet. There are many of us that started there and have posted out "first" experiences at BB's. Search the forums and by the time you have read everything that has been posted you will know more than many of us did on our first trip and it will be time for your first trip. The more you read the better your first time will be. You will make less rookie mistakes.
As Ponderosa stated....go slow and pace yourself. This is even more important if you are planning to Scuba Dive. I am not sure how long you have been diving, when you dove last, # of logged dives you have, level of certification etc. but watch the drinking, women, very late hours and flying. It can be a very unhealthy combination! I have been a Padi Divemaster for 21 years with over 600 dives and I have been to BB's 18+ times in the past 4 years. I don't dive when I go there because I know that the wrong head will be making most of the decisions. Enjoy!
Was just notified by the hotel management that the special will end on September 30th 2009. The standard room rate will be $50.00us per night which will include all taxes and breakfast.
Was just notified by the hotel management that the special will end on September 30th 2009. The standard room rate will be $50.00us per night which will include all taxes and breakfast.
Of course it depends on the "breakfast," but I've eaten sthere and the food was good.
$50 including breakfast is a very good deal!
Hennessy? Damn, it would not have been hard to track that one down.
No wonder she's out.
I made it a custom to tell the the bar staff that only I placed bar orders, and if anyone wanted anything on my tab, I had to approve it. Simple.Better yet. Don't open a tab and pay as you go! Even if someone doesn't order anything. The club will try to pad the bill. It's hard to refute. Another good thing about this is. You know exactly how much you're paying for what. Sometimes they raise prices from one trip to the next. You'll know and possibly slow down your drinking!
John from NJ
09-22-09, 16:01
Finally I have managed to swing a trip to DR without the ball n chain under the premise of a dive trip. So I'll probably get in a couple of dives in between sampling the local talent.
What I wanted to find out is what the procedure is in DR. I'm use to just freelancing but from what I've read there is A certain code of conduct in DR when dealing with the ladies. I'll be staying at BB's solo and I want to maximize my opportunities.
Any help would be greatly apreciated.I was in the DR in June on a mongering / dive trip. I spent my days diving even through the diving was poor. Most of the sites are in Sosua Bay and are bleached reefs. The shops cannot own dive boats so they use the small boats available on the beach. The wreck , Airport Wall and Five Rocks (also out by the airport) are the best. Paradise Island is nice but it is a full day road trip. $75 for two tanks.
I considered staying at BB but chose the New Garden to avoid the daily trip into Sousa. I was solo and do not speak any Spanish. I did meet up with a bunch of cool guys and had a good time but after awhile Sosua did get to be bit over whelming. Don’t worry about the ‘procedure’ for hooking up with chicas. They were all over me in Sosua. What I had to learn was how to get rid of them. I’m sure setting up dates will be easy in BB’s hand holding environment. Enjoy.
The link to my Sosua trip report
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Thank you for clearing up a lot of confusing and untruthful remarks. A lot of information has been written about Black Beards based on personal experiences and taste. First it was the issue of Black Beards vs. Sosua. Now it's Black Beards vs. FOD.
I used to be a long time supporter of Black Beards. When I first went to Black Beards, I believe in 2003, it was a great experience. Everyone from the staff, mujeres, & guests were friendly, supportive, and the atmosphere was not geared toward a business philosophy. I have great memories about Black Beards. Unfortunately, I feel that it has changed. The last few times I went there, the atmosphere was different. It's hard for me to describe it, but it's more of a business atmosphere than a fantasy vacation. Before I was totally satisfied with everything, now I feel like something is missing. Am I the only person that has the same opinion? I'm not talking about the food, or cleanliness of the rooms. But about the total atmosphere and attitude of the place and mujeres. Maybe if you ask the opinions of the "old timers" maybe you might get a better response.
Once again, thanks for providing us with facts.
Take care
John,
Thanks for the clearing that sh*t up. It seemed to come from one guy. I have been to BB's several times since my first trip in April 08 and will continue to go. I have been to several other places with the same theme including the overly priced places with the Russian girls and I have felt the most comfortable at BlackBeards.
At one time I was the US booking agent for TS and I was still going to BB's while working for TS. This place is so much better!
Just for the record, I have never seen you display the behavior that was posted on this forum.
Those of you readers to this forum that are thinking I am kissing John's ass by the things I said. I can only tell you that I am truly a satisfied customer and if you don't belive that, then the hell with you.
But if you are a first timer thinking about a trip to BlackBeards, my advice is GO!
You won't regret it!
Steve
Nightcrawler9
09-24-09, 20:45
I will be visiting Blackbeards tommorow for a long weekend. The post from John below definetly eases my mind, as I was a bit worried about the state of his resort.
I will be there the 25th thru 29 and will make sure and report my first experience to everyone afterwards.
Thanks to everyone for the reports, and thanks to John for clearing the air on recent rumors.
Querido Capitan/John,
First, let me put this in context.
I am not an enemy, Capitan.
I really like the hotel and have been going there since early 2005.
I wish the hotel success and hope it is there for many years.
It fills a market demand, it provides chicas a safe place to earn
much needed money, and provides incomes for employees in a place
where jobs are few.
My comments may have been blunt, but they were not malicious.
My objectives were not slander, but to express dismay and to hope that
a really good thing was not ruined by what sounded to me like an overdose
of temper and an attitude of “if they don’t like it, there are plenty more.”
(I have no doubt that there are girls on a waiting list to work there, but that is largely due to the grinding poverty in the DR, lack of decent-paying employment, and that despite the demands and costs of working there, Blackbeards is a much safer atmosphere than walking the streets).
If you check my previous posts on this site and others, you’ll find that my posts about BlackBeards have consistently been positive and I have recommended it so often that I’m sure that many thought I was a shil on the hotel payroll.
(Well, this exchange should dispell that idea, eh, gentlemen?)
I commend you for the recent improvements to the hotel.
It’s a very gutsy move in this tough economy, but it will pay off in the long run.
My concern was that the work environment was becoming too exploitive.
That the management was “killing the goose that laid the golden egg” and ruining a really good thing.
I understand that managing a Dominican staff and 40-50 chicas is like herding cats, BUT.. your management style has always been, shall we say, AUTHORITARIAN, to put it mildly, no?
My sources give one version of events at the Wednesday meeting, you give another.
Okay, no proof either way. (Though not too long ago, after a similar meeting “The Great Chica Walkout” occurred when the new fine system was announced, but they ended up coming back because they need the money, -and there is no alternative).
Without arguing, I only wish to make a point for your consideration, Captain,
regardless of what really transpired.
What keeps the hotel in business and the staff paid? The chicas!
The chicas are the reason that guys come to BlackBeards.
It is always stated that the chicas at the hotel are “independent.”
True, the hotel does not pay the chicas; the clients pay the chicas for their services.
BUT the mandatory bikini contest participation (with mandatory “entry fees” that fund the contest) the mandatory number of work days/hours, the fines for tardiness, are not consistent with “independent” contractors. The girls have to put up with it or work the streets.
(More than once over the years I have listened to chicas wish there was an alternative place to work, that was less expensive, less demanding and run with less “temperament.” When I mentioned FOD, is was in this context; that if BlackBeards self-destructed by becoming more of a headache to work there than it was worth, that the girls could find an alternative venue where they could work in safety). Competition is tough on the hotels, but its good for the consumers/clients - and the girls.
AND although the hotel doesn’t directly collect a percentage of what a client pays, it does collect monthly fees from the chicas to pay the mama-sans’ salaries, fees for the mandatory contests, etc. In short, they do have to pay to be allowed to “work” there.
Calling them “independent” provides some legal deniability, but in reality, the girls have no choice; they are not truly independent. Pay up or hit the road.
(There have been other mandatory forms of “chica-management relations” in the past, but we don’t need to get into that, do we? There are few secrets in that place).
In short, not only do the chicas bring in the guests, they are also self-funded, having to pay for their own overhead.
They cost the hotel nothing, and they bring in all the guests.
The chicas ARE the hotel.
Keep this in mind when dealing with them.
Comments on “padding bar tabs” were not mine; I have not had that experience.
Check my posts.
I highly recommend the hotel and have regularly pointed out its benefits, defending it against those who call it “spoon-feeding” and “for beginners only,” etc.
It is the best bargain you will find on the north coast, - and maybe in the DR for convenience, safety, all-under-one-roof, etc.
CAPTAIN I WISH YOU MUCH SUCCESS FOR MANY YEARS!
You have a great thing going there and I just don’t want you to ruin it!
Much Good luck, Captain, - just don’t forget who brings it to you.
i am not sure i am following some of your arguments about being or rather not being an independent contractor (ic). being required to be on time and working certain days/hours has nothing to do with determining if someone is an independent contractor or as you stated "consistent with independent contractors", on the contrary even in the states ic's can be held to a more strict tardy policy and are often hired to work odd hours.
second, sure no one is going to bb's for great food and [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) but its a two way street like anyone who works for someone else, w/o bb"s the girls have no safe environment you speak of to earn a living.
i really like the bb girls and they have one hell of a tough job and deserve ever peso they make but my gut feeling is that with alot of rules and regulations bb's would stink for us the customer and wouldnt last long.
To all ISC Members,
This is John, the owner of Blackbeards Resort in Costambar, Puerto Plata; and I would like to clarify some recent posts that I feel are: Incorrect: the product of malicious "Coconut Telegraph" gossip and/or simply slanderous and factually false.
John,
Most all Latin American work environments I have been involved with are run with a strong authoritarian flare. Come to think of it most American venues as well. The less authoritarian you run things, the more you are open to abuse and since there are 50 cats around there to heard you would be asking for trouble easing up any, especially with girls in their line of work. If this were a different line of business you could let up but it is not.
Charging the girls for the bikini contest? Makes sense if the money goes into a pot for health testing for all the girls that work there, but I don’t really know. This is just an example why I can’t criticize your business because I know nothing about what you are doing. So from the outside it might look exploitative but one can argue that maybe you are taking care of the girls just nobody knows it.
At any rate John, don’t feel like you should have to justify all your actions with these people here. Most likely the more you try the more you will get criticized. There will always be guys that distort the truth and nobody can control it. You cant win this battle.
If I were you I would not even engage in threads like this. You may just find that your hotel feedback cards are telling you 99% of the most important stuff anyway. That is, what kind of value add do you receive here aside from others getting to criticizing you from a political perspective? Zero I wager.
Blackbeards is nice hotel. The food was amazingly and suprisingly excellent. The waitress was prompt, professional and attentive. The owner was polite, his assistants were concened that we were happy. The place was clean, rooms nice, air conditioning, fans and bathrooms all worked. The hot water was excellent. The outdoor jacuzzi was awesome and they serve drinks and food and the ladies join you in there for lots of good times too. The ladies were accomodating, friendly, happy and took good care of clients. This place is a great place for guys that want to have a good time and get alot of attention to go.
As for the non-sence on this board about the place. I really don't give a hoot about the business that goes on between management and think that the owners should keep this to themselves and private between staff and not here on the board. Thats the problem and should be solved today by them.
Afterall guys, when you order dinner at a restaraunt in you home town, do you ever care if the chef is union, or salery, or hourly or what the contract for employment is between the staff and the management? Doubt it.
Basically, BB is a nice place, and good to go to. Ignore all the non-sence, go and see for yourself. Don't get involved in politics, your going there for one reason. To relax and to get the attention your lookin for.
Bb is very good. I found absoulutely nothing wrong at all.
FOD has a new manager called Yesenia that replaced Denise. I don't know what happen there but Yesenia has some wild numbers she will throw at you for room rates. Either she is smoking something or something, I don't know what.
But, here's the scope in the past I was able to secure suites at FOD for $37 - 45/night. Now under this new manager, she is trying to charge $75 - 90/night. And I thought FOD was finally taking the right steps. I guess I need to think twice. Does anyone know what happen here?
(I realize that the issue of exploitation or not is of little concern to most guys on this site, but I only add this to explain the point I was trying to make earlier).
I agree that if someone is employed, being on time is an obligation,
- but as the hotel states, the chicas are NOT hotel employees.
The hotel does not pay them a peso, - and so by what right does it impose expenses and demands on them?
(You or I are not required to be anywhere or to do anything by a business that doesn’t employ or pay us, -RIGHT?)
Imagine going to Classico’s in Sosua. Loaded with chicas.
Chicas bring in all the mongers/business.
Classico’s pays them nothing and in return it cannot make demands on them.
The chicas are free to enter or leave as they please.
Now imagine one day Classico’s says:
1. “If you want to ply your trade here (and bring us business/profits) you are REQUIRED to be here for 8 hours on a designated number of days.
Even if there are no clients/work here, you may not leave without permission without paying us a “fine.”
2. You are REQUIRED to dress according to our wishes (bikini in the day, eveningwear at night (at YOUR expense) whether there are clients/business here or not.
3. If you come in late, you are REQUIRED to pay us $15.
3. You are REQUIRED to participate in contests here every month.
You are also REQUIRED to pay an “entry fee” which will pay for the event.
(All swimsuits, hair salon costs, etc. will also be at YOUR expense).
If you don’t participate, you are REQUIRED to pay us $15.
4. You are REQUIRED to pay a monthly fee to pay the salary of the mama-sans who will supervise you (at YOUR expense).
5. You are REQUIRED to get monthly medical examinations
(at YOUR expense).
6. You are REQUIRED to comply with all of the above costs and obligations, regardless of the level of business and whether you are earning money or not.
In exchange we will provide you no compensation of any kind.
7. If you do not agree to these terms, we will bar you from the premises, and you can work the streets.
(In other words, all of the costs and obligations of an EMPLOYEE, but nothing on the part of the business that benefits from their presence).
Plenty of expenses, demands on the chicas, - none on the hotel.
Do similar requirements exist at the Medellin Mansion in Colombia or the Blue Marlin in Costa Rica?
My point was that the chicas are what brings business to the hotel, and instead of appreciation, the hotel imposes numerous expenses (on girls who already have to sell themselves to pay the bills as it is) and reaps the profits while assuming none of the expenses.
These relatively recent requirements attempt to improve profits by putting all this on the girls. The cause of the brief "chica walkout" some time ago.
I realize that this is of no concern to the guys on this site, but exploitation was my concern.
I don’t wish to drag this on. There is no point. Despite the controversy it seems to have caused, my intention was not to trash the hotel, just raise some concerns about fairness.
I appreciate those little mamitas and how they have to earn a peso.
I HAVE ENJOYED BLACKBEARDS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
I RECOMMEND IT TO ANY GUY, BEGINNER OR VETERAN.
For any first-time visitor to the DR, it is the BEST place to go, in my opinion.
I only suggest that these things are kept in mind and that we (and the hotel) appreciate those chicas that provide us with so much pleasure – and profit.
CaptainBill
09-26-09, 03:05
I agree completely with Yanqui69 re: the explotation idea. I think this is something for everyone to think about because we all have mothers and sisters and females in our lives. Would we want them to be subjected to unfair employment practices. Granted this is third world capitalism but damn, like the man said, don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg.
With regard to yhe Captain John's reply, why not just hire more girls since there is a waiting list. This will make the girls more competitive and more concerned with customer service. The girls who treat the customers right will get repeat business, the ones that don't won't. It appears captain John has an extensive waiting list, give the girls a job, after all it ain't gonna cost the hotel nothing. As far as girls being charged for being late, not showing up, etc., additional girls would solve this problem as well. Instead of 30 girls working have 50.
I personally would not charge the girls to compete, or not compete in any "show" because some girls are just not gonna win and they know it, so why waste time competing. Having been "exploited" in my own work experiences I can relate to passing on some of the bad karma to customers. I guess my final word on this subject (and I say this in humor and without any kind of judgment being implied) would be that just because you run a cat-house, you don't have to be a dick. And let's be honest, we all know that those girls ain't working there and the house don't get a cut of what they make, I mean how obivious is it that every time a girl has a date she goes to get a colored towel to take to the room, please.
PS. How about some clarification on what a short time with a chica consists of, 1 hour or 2 hours and how mant time can a customer cum? Answer that one captain John since you read the posts. Thanks and long live Blackbeards.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Does anyone have a contact for someone/someplace I can rent a car from for 1 day (check out and return on the same day) without leaving a credit card authorization for a ridiculous amount of money? I'd prefer to just pay with cash either beforehand or after. Of course the car needs to be reliable.
Even if it is a mom and pops type operation, I just need a car for that day to do some ripping and running before I meet up with my crew in the late afternoon. I'll be bussing in from Santiago early in the morning.
If anyone knows any such place, please PM me with the info or post here.
Thanks,
Rodeo
If John's rules for the girls bother you that much, then don't go to BB's.
You sound like some liberal from the states that is full of hypocrisy!
You have BB's most outspoken critic about how John treats the girls but yet you end your post with a comment of your continuing to go to BB's.
Again, if the rules the girls at BB's bother you that much, then don't go or open your own place, then you can make the rules for the girls.
I agree completely with Yanqui69 re: the explotation idea. I think this is something for everyone to think about because we all have mothers and sisters and females in our lives. Would we want them to be subjected to unfair employment practices. Granted this is third world capitalism but damn, like the man said, don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg.
With regard to yhe Captain John's reply, why not just hire more girls since there is a waiting list. This will make the girls more competitive and more concerned with customer service. The girls who treat the customers right will get repeat business, the ones that don't won't. It appears captain John has an extensive waiting list, give the girls a job, after all it ain't gonna cost the hotel nothing. As far as girls being charged for being late, not showing up, etc., additional girls would solve this problem as well. Instead of 30 girls working have 50.
I personally would not charge the girls to compete, or not compete in any "show" because some girls are just not gonna win and they know it, so why waste time competing. Having been "exploited" in my own work experiences I can relate to passing on some of the bad karma to customers. I guess my final word on this subject (and I say this in humor and without any kind of judgment being implied) would be that just because you run a cat-house, you don't have to be a dick. And let's be honest, we all know that those girls ain't working there and the house don't get a cut of what they make, I mean how obivious is it that every time a girl has a date she goes to get a colored towel to take to the room, please.
PS. How about some clarification on what a short time with a chica consists of, 1 hour or 2 hours and how mant time can a customer cum? Answer that one captain John since you read the posts. Thanks and long live Blackbeards.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.In fairness to John and in the name of common sense you guys are killing me with that exploitation argument LOL. Many people would say you are exploiting the girls by showing up and paying the small amount you pay to poor desperate people for sex.
Traveler04
09-26-09, 13:47
i can not imagine any rental business (even a mom and pop) that would be crazy enough to allow anyone to rent a car with out a credit card or worse a large cash deposit. i have rented a car many times in the dr (as many others have here also) and always take the additional insurance as a safety measure.
i would call a us major rental agency (budget, avis, hertz etc.) before your trip and find out what their deposit policy is in the dr. explian that you will be paying cash for the rental and insurance. ask them how much money is blocked / held on your creidt card as a deposit and when is the block / hold removed. it may vary from rental agency to agency and counrty to country. my experience in the dr has been from 1-4 days and the amount held was around $300.00 us (10,000 pesos +/-) depending on the car and the number of days.
i would also call your credit card company and ask them for options or ways to speed up the release of the block / hold on your avail. credit.
i hope this helps.
You hit it right on the nose. I have always found it strange that Black Beards states that they do not employ any of the mujeres but they impose a lot of rules and fees onto the mujeres.
I understand that Black Beards need to implement rules and regulations so they can have a successful business. Let's be honest, we all come for the women.
Unfortunately, I believe the managements treatment of the women have in turned changed the culture of the place. Since they are treated like employees, they in turn treat us like clients. I remember ST used to be 4 to 5 hours. Today, it's one pop and done. A lot of things have changed.
WHen it comes to other countries the rules are different. In Costa Rica, I believe pimping is illegal and prostitution is legal. Businesses or individuals cannot benefit from a woman's chosen profession. Women have to receive weekly medical checkups.
In Panama and Ecuador, women also have to get weekly checkups to work in massage parlors and bars. Without having proper documentation, the business can get in trouble. Women also are on a schedule and must pay a fine if they do not go to work. Depending on the female, that rule is flexible.
(I realize that the issue of exploitation or not is of little concern to most guys on this site, but I only add this to explain the point I was trying to make earlier).
I agree that if someone is employed, being on time is an obligation,
- but as the hotel states, the chicas are NOT hotel employees.
The hotel does not pay them a peso, - and so by what right does it impose expenses and demands on them?
(You or I are not required to be anywhere or to do anything by a business that doesn’t employ or pay us, -RIGHT?)
Imagine going to Classico’s in Sosua. Loaded with chicas.
Chicas bring in all the mongers/business.
Classico’s pays them nothing and in return it cannot make demands on them.
The chicas are free to enter or leave as they please.
Now imagine one day Classico’s says:
1. “If you want to ply your trade here (and bring us business/profits) you are REQUIRED to be here for 8 hours on a designated number of days.
Even if there are no clients/work here, you may not leave without permission without paying us a “fine.”
2. You are REQUIRED to dress according to our wishes (bikini in the day, eveningwear at night (at YOUR expense) whether there are clients/business here or not.
3. If you come in late, you are REQUIRED to pay us $15.
3. You are REQUIRED to participate in contests here every month.
You are also REQUIRED to pay an “entry fee” which will pay for the event.
(All swimsuits, hair salon costs, etc. will also be at YOUR expense).
If you don’t participate, you are REQUIRED to pay us $15.
4. You are REQUIRED to pay a monthly fee to pay the salary of the mama-sans who will supervise you (at YOUR expense).
5. You are REQUIRED to get monthly medical examinations
(at YOUR expense).
6. You are REQUIRED to comply with all of the above costs and obligations, regardless of the level of business and whether you are earning money or not.
In exchange we will provide you no compensation of any kind.
7. If you do not agree to these terms, we will bar you from the premises, and you can work the streets.
(In other words, all of the costs and obligations of an EMPLOYEE, but nothing on the part of the business that benefits from their presence).
Plenty of expenses, demands on the chicas, - none on the hotel.
Do similar requirements exist at the Medellin Mansion in Colombia or the Blue Marlin in Costa Rica?
My point was that the chicas are what brings business to the hotel, and instead of appreciation, the hotel imposes numerous expenses (on girls who already have to sell themselves to pay the bills as it is) and reaps the profits while assuming none of the expenses.
These relatively recent requirements attempt to improve profits by putting all this on the girls. The cause of the brief "chica walkout" some time ago.
I realize that this is of no concern to the guys on this site, but exploitation was my concern.
I don’t wish to drag this on. There is no point. Despite the controversy it seems to have caused, my intention was not to trash the hotel, just raise some concerns about fairness.
I appreciate those little mamitas and how they have to earn a peso.
I HAVE ENJOYED BLACKBEARDS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
I RECOMMEND IT TO ANY GUY, BEGINNER OR VETERAN.
For any first-time visitor to the DR, it is the BEST place to go, in my opinion.
I only suggest that these things are kept in mind and that we (and the hotel) appreciate those chicas that provide us with so much pleasure – and profit.
I agree completely with Yanqui69 re: the explotation idea. I think this is something for everyone to think about because we all have mothers and sisters and females in our lives. Would we want them to be subjected to unfair employment practices. Granted this is third world capitalism but damn, like the man said, don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg.
With regard to yhe Captain John's reply, why not just hire more girls since there is a waiting list. This will make the girls more competitive and more concerned with customer service. The girls who treat the customers right will get repeat business, the ones that don't won't. It appears captain John has an extensive waiting list, give the girls a job, after all it ain't gonna cost the hotel nothing. As far as girls being charged for being late, not showing up, etc., additional girls would solve this problem as well. Instead of 30 girls working have 50.
I personally would not charge the girls to compete, or not compete in any "show" because some girls are just not gonna win and they know it, so why waste time competing. Having been "exploited" in my own work experiences I can relate to passing on some of the bad karma to customers. I guess my final word on this subject (and I say this in humor and without any kind of judgment being implied) would be that just because you run a cat-house, you don't have to be a dick. And let's be honest, we all know that those girls ain't working there and the house don't get a cut of what they make, I mean how obivious is it that every time a girl has a date she goes to get a colored towel to take to the room, please.
PS. How about some clarification on what a short time with a chica consists of, 1 hour or 2 hours and how mant time can a customer cum? Answer that one captain John since you read the posts. Thanks and long live Blackbeards.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Despite the recent "pissing contest" allow me to assist.
A ST is actually what you agree to with the chica.
It is 1-2 hours, depending.
She will naturally presume it to be 1 hour, unless it is agreed
to be otherwise BEFOREHAND.
Depending on your desire (and capability) that can be
2 shots or 1.
(This is where the guys in their 20s really get their money's worth).
On m;y first trip there in 2005, there was some real chemsistry with a chica and SHE asked ME, "would you like another?"
A little rapport pays BIG dividends!
Does anyone have a contact for someone/someplace I can rent a car from for 1 day (check out and return on the same day) without leaving a credit card authorization for a ridiculous amount of money? I'd prefer to just pay with cash either beforehand or after. Of course the car needs to be reliable.
Even if it is a mom and pops type operation, I just need a car for that day to do some ripping and running before I meet up with my crew in the late afternoon. I'll be bussing in from Santiago early in the morning.
If anyone knows any such place, please PM me with the info or post here.
Thanks,
Rodeo
Although I have always rented a car from reputable U.S companies at the airport there are private rental companies available. Usually you need to contact your hotel and they will arrange it for you. I am sure for them cash will be good enough instead of credit cards.
Just make sure the scratches and dents to the car is noted before you rent. Sometimes these people always try to scam you saying you scratched or dented the car. Put the cash deposit to the hotel so that you will be safe.
Although I have always rented a car from reputable U.S companies at the airport there are private rental companies available. Usually you need to contact your hotel and they will arrange it for you. I am sure for them cash will be good enough instead of credit cards.
Just make sure the scratches and dents to the car is noted before you rent. Sometimes these people always try to scam you saying you scratched or dented the car. Put the cash deposit to the hotel so that you will be safe.
For your purpose (1 day) its almost easier to hire a car/driver for the day.
The large national rentals are better to deal with, regarding insurance, etc.
Any problems and you can deal with the parent company (Budget, etc.) back in the States.
With Mom and Pop, its their word against yours in all cases,
and as the Gringo on their turf, you will always lose.
For your purpose (1 day) its almost easier to hire a car/driver for the day.
The large national rentals are better to deal with, regarding insurance, etc.
Any problems and you can deal with the parent company (Budget, etc.) back in the States.
With Mom and Pop, its their word against yours in all cases,
and as the Gringo on their turf, you will always lose.
That is very sound advice!
Manizales911
09-26-09, 20:06
FOD has a new manager called Yesenia that replaced Denise. I don't know what happen there but Yesenia has some wild numbers she will throw at you for room rates. Either she is smoking something or something, I don't know what.
But, here's the scope in the past I was able to secure suites at FOD for $37 - 45/night. Now under this new manager, she is trying to charge $75 - 90/night. And I thought FOD was finally taking the right steps. I guess I need to think twice. Does anyone know what happen here?I have gone to FOD a few times now and the suites were NEVER $37-$45 a night, you must be talking some ancient history. The price structure has in fact changed recently though. A standard room is now $50. But it includes free breakfast which easily negates the 4 dollar price increase. The suites are priced from $75 to $90 depending on the suite due to the fact they are all different in size and design.
FOD is in fact in final negotiations of being sold. I left there yesterday and they were going through the due diligence process of taking inventory etc. I have intimate knowledge of all the details but having bought and sold several businesses myself I know this is not the time to be putting that info on a public forum and I have a lot of respect for Alberto the owner and wouldn't do that to him, it's really none of our business anyway. What I DON'T know is what the new owner, if in fact the sale goes through, intends on doing with the place.
Which is better for a first-timer, Sosua, BlackBeards or FOD?
I've visited Sosua several times over the years so I know what it has to offer.
But what about BlackBeards? How does it compare? Prices? Talent?
And what is FOD?
I'm asking because a friend will be visiting for the first time and I want him to have a good time.
My plan was to stay at Hotel Europa, but if BB or FOD is better I'll consider.
I'll do the research but any recent comments are appreciated.
If John's rules for the girls bother you that much, then don't go to BB's.
You sound like some liberal from the states that is full of hypocrisy!
You have BB's most outspoken critic about how John treats the girls but yet you end your post with a comment of your continuing to go to BB's.
Again, if the rules the girls at BB's bother you that much, then don't go or open your own place, then you can make the rules for the girls.
I have been “BB’s most outspoken critic?” What an idiot.
ON THE CONTRARY, I HAVE CONSISTENTLY RECOMMENDED BB
on this board and others!
READ MY POSTS BEFORE YOU SHOOT YOUR MOUTH OFF.
I do NOT approve of how John deals with the girls.
YET I have been going there since 2005.
There is no hypocrisy there.
Because I go there for the chicas (not to kiss anyone’s ass).
Why deny them income because I think the hotel treats them unfairly?
If there was a similar environment with comparable girls, I’d be there too.
In a recent trip report I compared the New FOD and BB, and said both were well-run and attractive; very comparable.
The only thing FOD lacked was a good selection of chicas. For now.
If the new FOD owner was so inclined, he should start recruiting a good selection of girls and then BB would have REAL competition.
Anyone remember Yohanny?
Anyone who had the pleasure of her company would agree that on a
Performance scale of 1-10, she was an 11.
She left BlackBeards because she got “tired of being humiliated” (her words).
I have no doubt that if there was a similar environment that offered them a better deal, many more chicas would “jump ship” and leave the Captain.
After all, what loyalty do they owe BB?
They've been treated like crap, like indentured servants.
(Listening John?)
I raised this issue in a public forum not as a slander campaign, but as a wake-up call.
If you had been going there longer than since mid-2008, you’d know that the hotel has gone through series of managers over the last 3 years. Why? Were THEY all at fault?
It was because they weren’t thick-skinned enough and couldn’t/wouldn’t put up with their boss.
John does a lot of things right, but what he consistently gets wrong is how he treats people. And this comes from a number of sources.
I am happy to see that Tim was back at the hotel answering the phone.
He has the patience and thick skin to deal with the occasional tirades.
I may be blunt, but I am reasonable, rational and making valid points.
I am not ranting.
BlackBeards is a unique place in the DR.
It is a great business concept and John has a real winner there.
The only person who can screw it up is him.
Which is better for a first-timer, Sosua, BlackBeards or FOD?
I've visited Sosua several times over the years so I know what it has to offer.
But what about BlackBeards? How does it compare? Prices? Talent?
And what is FOD?
I'm asking because a friend will be visiting for the first time and I want him to have a good time.
My plan was to stay at Hotel Europa, but if BB or FOD is better I'll consider.
I'll do the research but any recent comments are appreciated.
Most would agree that for a bunch of first-time visitors, BlackBeards would be the best bet.
Its in Costambar, an isolated residential area about 11 miles west of the airport, about 3 miles west of Puerto Plata.
Compared to the street action in Sosua, BB has girls that are screened to exclude thieves, addicts, crazies, etc. The girls also have monthly medical checks. Any problems can be taken to the management. (Can't do that in Sosua). There is also a bar, restaurant, pool and group jacuzzi on site. About 5 minutes walk away there is a supermarket/moneychanger, pharmacy, and a couple of restaurants. There is also a beach 5 minutes walk away. Not a lot of activity, but nice, secluded. The environment, prices, are controlled, which is a plus for first-timers with little/no Spanish. Short time (1-2 hours) is about 1500 pesos (about $42 US) Overnight is 3000 (about $84 US).
Field of Dreams (FOD) is more centrally located, about 4-5 miles west of the airport, 8 miles west of Sosua, about 2 miles east of POP.
It is attractive, economical, good food, bar, pool, small jacuzzi. Just across the road from Playa Dorada all-inclusive resort complex. All it lacks is a good selection of chicas. You can bring your own and there are a few that hang around the pool. Obviously, the place is chica friendly.
You could share cabfare for excursions into Sosua and party back at FOD.
But the lack of a good selection of available girls would make BB your first choice.
When your friends have more experience, they might want to try the waters in Sosua for the street action.
I think most guys would agree with me that BB would be your best choice.
Good Luck,
Y69
BoricuaOnline
09-27-09, 04:47
I have never been to Blackbeards. It is hard to me to get a good flight to POP or STI. I receive their mailings an apparently is a good place to visit.
I have read Yanqui posts and I agree with his vision of how a chica should be treated.
There is a bikini contest every two weeks according to mailings. I have seen bikini contests in Puerto Rico and in some USA cities during spring break. Winners receive a cash or product/services prices. I suppose winners at Blackbeards bikini contest receive a prize, right? Or it is too liberal?
Anyone remember Yohanny?
Anyone who had the pleasure of her company would agree that on a
Performance scale of 1-10, she was an 11.
She left BlackBeards because she got “tired of being humiliated” (her words).
I have no doubt that if there was a similar environment that offered them a better deal, many more chicas would “jump ship” and leave the Captain.
After all, what loyalty do they owe BB?
They've been treated like crap, like indentured servants.
(Listening John?)Actually she hasn't been working because she was pregnant and will be coming back to BB's in a couple of weeks.
Catfish296
09-27-09, 07:20
Wouldn't it be funny if Yanqui69 was really one of the BB chicas?
I have read your post and while YOU DO recommend BB's, you criticize how the girls are treated by John. I call that talking out both sides of your mouth! I remember the post you wrote comparing the two, FOD and BB's. It was very informative and I read it several times.
All I'm saying is that you take alot of time to criticize how John manages things but yet you recommend BB's? That's talking out both sides of your mouth and the only idiot I see is the one that goes to a place that he constantly is criticizing. So maybe you should think before shouting off your mouth.
I have been “BB’s most outspoken critic?” What an idiot.
ON THE CONTRARY, I HAVE CONSISTENTLY RECOMMENDED BB
on this board and others!
READ MY POSTS BEFORE YOU SHOOT YOUR MOUTH OFF.
I do NOT approve of how John deals with the girls.
YET I have been going there since 2005.
There is no hypocrisy there.
Because I go there for the chicas (not to kiss anyone’s ass).
Why deny them income because I think the hotel treats them unfairly?
If there was a similar environment with comparable girls, I’d be there too.
In a recent trip report I compared the New FOD and BB, and said both were well-run and attractive; very comparable.
The only thing FOD lacked was a good selection of chicas. For now.
If the new FOD owner was so inclined, he should start recruiting a good selection of girls and then BB would have REAL competition.
Anyone remember Yohanny?
Anyone who had the pleasure of her company would agree that on a
Performance scale of 1-10, she was an 11.
She left BlackBeards because she got “tired of being humiliated” (her words).
I have no doubt that if there was a similar environment that offered them a better deal, many more chicas would “jump ship” and leave the Captain.
After all, what loyalty do they owe BB?
They've been treated like crap, like indentured servants.
(Listening John?)
I raised this issue in a public forum not as a slander campaign, but as a wake-up call.
If you had been going there longer than since mid-2008, you’d know that the hotel has gone through 4+ managers in about 3 years. Why? Were THEY all at fault?
It was because they weren’t thick-skinned enough and couldn’t/wouldn’t put up with their boss. John does a lot of things right, but what he consistently gets wrong is how he treats people. And this comes from a number of sources.
I am happy to see that Tim was back at the hotel answering the phone.
He has the patience and thick skin to deal with the occasional tirades.
I may be blunt, but I am reasonable, rational and making valid points.
I am not ranting.
BlackBeards is a unique place in the DR.It is a great business concept and John has a real winner there.
The only person who can screw it up is him.
I have never been to Blackbeards. It is hard to me to get a good flight to POP or STI. I receive their mailings an apparently is a good place to visit.
I have read Yanqui posts and I agree with his vision of how a chica should be treated.
There is a bikini contest every two weeks according to mailings. I have seen bikini contests in Puerto Rico and in some USA cities during spring break. Winners receive a cash or product/services prices. I suppose winners at Blackbeards bikini contest receive a prize, right? Or it is too liberal?
The girls in first, second, and third places win cash.
The cash comes from the other girls' mandatory "entry fees."
In other words, the chicas have to pay for the event used to attract business to the hotel.
The girls in first, second, and third places win cash.
The cash comes from the other girls' mandatory "entry fees."
In other words, the chicas have to pay for the event used to attract business to the hotel.
That's exploitation at it's finest!
Maybe they could get better broads if they added a tip jar to the mix so the girls have the potential to make more. Patrons could add to the tip jar and I am sure the women would wild out if they had the potential to make some real money.
Nightcrawler9
09-27-09, 16:21
Let me start by saying thank you to all the guys here that have written reports about blackbeards and other places in the DR. Without them I would not have made the voyage here, and I am glad I did.
FLIGHT ARRIVAL TO POP
My american airlines flight from MIA arrived about 30min behind schedule. I was concerned that the taxi drive might not be there due to the late flight.
As soon as we touched down I rushed off the plane and down the escalator to the tune of some music and chicas. They were taking photographs of tourists, it was cute but I wasn't interested.
After a quickstop at the restroom, I made my way down a hallway towards the tourist card line. Just as I was told, $10 and 10ft later, its "scanned" and thrown away. Next stop was customs, they opened my carry on and laptop bag. Pretty quick search, and let me go. I took the advice given and avoided checking bags. As I made my way out to the pickup area, I looked to my right and saw a bunch of taxi drivers with sign. Upon closer inspection I noticed a blackbeards sign (a little hard to read from a distance), to my surprise it had my name and someone elses name on it. After approaching the driver and letting him know which one of the two I was. He told me that we will need to wait for the other guest. Of course this was fine with me. I proceeded to sit and wait with the other people in the waiting area. It seemed like it took forever, but it was probably about 15-20min before the other guest came out. The cab driver waled over and signaled to me that it was time to go.
When the driver went to fetch his taxi, I was a little surprised at how beat up it was. Don't get me wrong, I was in the DR and I know most cabs are old cars. This one had seen some rough times. But the driver made up for it by being a really cool guy. He played some bob marley and some spanish music while we drove to paradise.
TAXI RIDE TO BLACKBEARDS
The ride to paradise is not a pretty one. The cane fields are nice, but the city area reminds me of how fortunate we are in the USA, to say that a decent roof was hard to find would be an understatement. The motoconchos are crazy, and no rules seem to apply on the road. But our driver was pretty good, and despite all the bumps, he got us their in one piece.
Before blackbeards, I asked the driver to stop and Jenny's for exchange and some water. Went to the back office and the manager their was quite helpful. Exchange rate was almost exactly what I saw on the internet a day prior to my departure.
I purchased a few bottles of Dasani, and went on my way.
ARRIVAL AT BLACKBEARDS
It had rained earlier so it was a bit wet out. They're was still plenty of chicas around under the covered areas. Walking in to the courtyard I noticed some girls, and of course I got a "Hey Baby" or two. It was great, and reminded me that I had finally arrived. I met Joe at the Desk. He is very helpful and his english is great. He introduced me to the mamasan's Rosalba and Luchie. Joe proceeded to tell me the rules and go over the handbook. He made sure to stress that if there is anything I need, to please see him. He then showed me the path to my room and gave me the key and safe key.
I had booked late and could only get a single room, as the deluxe were taken. Once I reached my room as I was glad to see everything clean and in order. After reading mixed reviews I thought things would be a little "rough looking", Boy was I wrong! Clean floors, clean bed, I turned on the AC and it was nice and cold. All the essentials were there and working properly. The mini fridge was stocked with some booze and water. I rushed to the shower and thought get ready for cold water. THERE WAS HOT WATER, and it worked. WOW! I was releived. Took my first shower and changed to some fresh shorts and sandals. It was time to make my way to the bar.
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Bbjack1000
09-27-09, 16:38
If John's rules for the girls bother you that much, then don't go to BB's.
You sound like some liberal from the states that is full of hypocrisy!
You have BB's most outspoken critic about how John treats the girls but yet you end your post with a comment of your continuing to go to BB's.
Again, if the rules the girls at BB's bother you that much, then don't go or open your own place, then you can make the rules for the girls.Aren't we all liberals for buying/getting puta?!? Or is that a conservative thing?
Biggun1221
09-27-09, 16:47
I have been “BB’s most outspoken critic?” What an idiot.
ON THE CONTRARY, I HAVE CONSISTENTLY RECOMMENDED BB
on this board and others!
READ MY POSTS BEFORE YOU SHOOT YOUR MOUTH OFF.
I do NOT approve of how John deals with the girls.
YET I have been going there since 2005.
There is no hypocrisy there.
Because I go there for the chicas (not to kiss anyone’s ass).
Why deny them income because I think the hotel treats them unfairly?
If there was a similar environment with comparable girls, I’d be there too.
In a recent trip report I compared the New FOD and BB, and said both were well-run and attractive; very comparable.
The only thing FOD lacked was a good selection of chicas. For now.
If the new FOD owner was so inclined, he should start recruiting a good selection of girls and then BB would have REAL competition.
Anyone remember Yohanny?
Anyone who had the pleasure of her company would agree that on a
Performance scale of 1-10, she was an 11.
She left BlackBeards because she got “tired of being humiliated” (her words).
I have no doubt that if there was a similar environment that offered them a better deal, many more chicas would “jump ship” and leave the Captain.
After all, what loyalty do they owe BB?
They've been treated like crap, like indentured servants.
(Listening John?)
I raised this issue in a public forum not as a slander campaign, but as a wake-up call.
If you had been going there longer than since mid-2008, you’d know that the hotel has gone through series of managers over the last 3 years. Why? Were THEY all at fault?
It was because they weren’t thick-skinned enough and couldn’t/wouldn’t put up with their boss.
John does a lot of things right, but what he consistently gets wrong is how he treats people. And this comes from a number of sources.
I am happy to see that Tim was back at the hotel answering the phone.
He has the patience and thick skin to deal with the occasional tirades.
I may be blunt, but I am reasonable, rational and making valid points.
I am not ranting.
BlackBeards is a unique place in the DR.
It is a great business concept and John has a real winner there.
The only person who can screw it up is him.I have been reading the reports that have been going on here about BB, s and the way John runs the place. I personally have been there a couple times and have enjoyed myself.
I have thought from the very first time I went there that the chicas were being used for his benefit and not to help them. I agree with yanqui69 that they are being used for John's personal gain. If it were not for the fact of the chicas drawing the guys, how would John be able to fill Black Beards rooms with clients. I am sure they wouldn't go there to see him.
As far as money for the bikini contests goes the girls have to put up the prize money. They do have to pay the mamasans a monthly fee. They work there and are not fed by the house, if they eat there it is because of the guys they are with. Most all of them that do eat there and pay for their own food eat the soup, the cheapest thing on the menu.
John sells booze rent rooms and exploits the chicas and makes a living from the chicas. If it were not for the girls he would be just another struggling motel/hotel in a third world country trying to beat out a living and trying to survive like the girls do that are at BB's.
With all that being said, I still enjoy the girls at BB's. I don't have to like the way John runs the place to go there, do I wish it were different for the girls ther, yes I do, but as all of you guys know once someone is down that is when people take advantage of the situation and uses it to their advantage.
Anyway, I like yanqui69 enjoy going to BB's and enjoy the girls, and would recommend it to other first timers or the the seasoned monger.
Catfish296
09-27-09, 17:12
Wouldn't it be funny if Yanqui69 was really one of the BB chicas?
Catfish296
09-27-09, 17:23
Wouldn't it be funny if Yanqui69 was really one of the BB chicas?
Actually she hasn't been working because she was pregnant and will be coming back to BB's in a couple of weeks.
Boy that is great news, One of the best performers ever. If true that news makes my day I hope to check her out in December. Now only if Yvette/Ibel was coming back talking about a dream come true. Those two together. Wow
Manizales911
09-27-09, 19:16
Just got back from a weeks stay in POP, stayed at FOD, my third time there. As I have posted before there are very few girls there. It is not and should not be thought of as a place similar to BB's in my opinion. I only stayed there because as a hotel it isn't a bad place and there are other mongers there to hang out and trade info with. I had booked my room through Billy to get the $29. "special" but the room was tiny and went back to the front desk and negotiated a 20% discount on a suite and a second free breakfast every day for whatever chica I rolled out of the rack with. My original intentions were to spend a couple days sampling the girls at FOD, spend a day or two with my all time favorite DR chica "S" then add her friend "D" who happens to be my second favorite chica in the DR. I no longer post photos of girls on here but there are photos of both these girls in an older report. I left two days at the end of the trip to go to Sosua and Cristals to hook up with Dayana and Naomi. Once I got settled in my room I went to the bar to have a few drinks and check out the talent. There were only five girls hanging around and not one of them interested me. Well I didn't come here to play with myself so I called "S" and told her to get her culo here pronto, I told her I had given her the wrong date of arrival. "S" lives in Santo Domingo now and I didn't think she would be able to catch a bus that late so I told her to tell her brother who has a car I would give him $25. If he could get her here before 10 P. M. They showed up at 9:30. I was tired from travelling so we stayed at the hotel for the night drinking, talking and of course fucking.
By the time we went for breakfast it was almost noon time and there were only 4 girls hanging around but there was one girl sitting at the bar by herself that looked pretty good. After breakfast we headed to Sosua beach for the day. Though I had been to Sosua many times to pick up girls and party I had never been to the beach there, I enjoyed it but I like Caberete better. Got back to the hotel showered, got a fantastic BBBJTC and went to the bar and started drinking. I let "S" take me to her favorite Italian place to eat and it was fantastic. I promised myself I would make notes of the names of restaurants etc. As my memory absolutely sucks but once again I have let down my fellow mongers. After dinner we went to the casino at Ocean World for a few hours and played slots which sucked for me but "S" loves it so I said o. K. I live 10 minutes from the 2 largest casinos in the world so I don't get off on that stuff anymore.
At breakfast the next morning 'S" asked me why I hadn't called "D" to join us and I told her that it was kind of a waste to have two girls at once because even though I liked them both very much I only have one pene and they had made it clear to me over the last three years that I have known them that they aren't "into" each other. She tells me things are different now and they will do whatever I want. I called "D" and she was at work at BB's and I told her I wanted her for two days and we would come and get her when her shift was over. We went to BB's picked up "D" and took her to her house so she could get her clothes and stuff and headed back to FOD. We all decided we would go to the disco that night. I knew I was going to get very drunk and would be getting back very late from the disco and not being a spring chicken anymore knew that the best time to have a session with these two girls would be before we went not after. Well, I have to tell you these two girls went after each other like long lost lovers, holy shit! I have had the pleasure of threesomes with Yohanni and Ibel at BB's back in the day on two different occasions and I thought I would never see the day where I would have anything like that again but I was totally wrong. After that ridiculous session I would have been fine with staying put but I had to keep the girls happy if I wanted to have a repeat of what just happened. We went to Coco Bongo danced all night and had a very good time, got very drunk.
Next day there were only four girls hanging around, spent a few hours talking to a couple other mongers and Billy Lane and later Alberto came by and we talked for a while. I saw several groups of mongers come by for a few drinks and leave. One of the things I thought was kind of odd that day was the mamason had her two young kids there all day playing in the pool. I know she probably didn't have someone to watch them that day but this girl is almost never there anyway so why not stay home. I saw the chica that had been sitting at the bar alone all week go to the jacuzzi in a thong bikini, OMFG what a body! Later on me and the girls went to visit another girl that we know that used to work at BB's. I have known "P" for 3 years and never sessioned with her, I consider her a friend. She is best friends with "S" and my former wingman used to session with her all the time. She has since found a novio from the states, he happened to be visiting her that week. If this dude isn't a pro athlete he should be, about 6-5" 270lbs. And built like a friggin' brick shithouse, real clean cut African American from Maryland, a wicked nice guy. She told me he fully financially supports her, her two kids and her mother. She doesn't "work" anymore, bought her a laptop blah, blah. "P" has a sister that has a tiny tienda/restaurant next door and we hung out pounding down a shitload of Presidente Grandes and at the end of the night she charged me like 1400 pesos and we had to drink at LEAST 20 or more bottles, there were 7 of us drinking. Went back to the hotel and fucked like teenagers. Oh, when we got back to the hotel the same chica was still sitting at the bar all by herself.
This report is already way too long but I did want to mention that one of the remaining last nights we went to a karaoke bar called Rancho Kokomito (sp? ) I have been there several times as "S" loves to sing Karaoke and I like going to the local places. The reason I want to mention this is there were four girls I recognized from BB's partying there, also the young VERY cute waitress from BB's was in there, I soooo want to bang her! There are other girls there but they are either there with their novios or they are with a couple of girlfriends. I would suggest any young dudes that are traveling with at least one wingman that there might be some non-pro action to be had there, I'm too old for that. The last time I was there back in April I saw the hottest chica I have ever seen in the DR sitting next to me, to this day I think she was Colombian, she didn't look Dominican at all and definitely was a pro, two cell phones one of which was an I-phone and dressed to the nines. "S" knew her and introduced me to her but it is too loud in there to have any kind of conversation in there. Also, does anybody know the name of the karaoke bar in Costambar? I only went there once and again, saw several BB's chicas in that place also. I saw two of the BB's waitresses in there that night too.
In closing, the amount of girls at FOD is at an all time low but the reason is there aren't any hombres there for them to ply there trade with. That one hot chica I saw sit at the bar every day for five days eight hours a day and never got taken. The dudes that are staying there are going elsewhere for girls. "S " talked to one girl while we were at the pool and she said she had been there one month and had only had one customer. As I see it it is a catch-22, no chicas no hombres, no hombres no chicas. I mentioned in another report that FOD is very close to being sold, we'll see what happens.
Last but not least, I never ended up hooking up with Dayana or Naomi because I was having just too much fun with what I had going so Rodeo if you read this those two should be nice and fresh for you. Lolol
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Wouldn't it be funny if Yanqui69 was really one of the BB chicas?
Oh dude, you're a hoot!
A few other guys on these boards know me personally.
And don't you think my English is just a little too good to be a chica?
(Hell, it's better than most of the other mongers while we're on the subject!)
Again, look at my posts over the last 4 years if you want to entertain such theories.
Puh-lease!
Actually she hasn't been working because she was pregnant and will be coming back to BB's in a couple of weeks.
Reallly? Good luck to her! I wish her well. She's a sweetie.
Just goes to show how bad she needs to work.
She has indeed been pregnant, but she had been working on and off at FOD.
Her reasons for leaving BB were exactly as I quoted her.
Chief Justice
09-27-09, 20:53
Actually she hasn't been working because she was pregnant and will be coming back to BB's in a couple of weeks.Is she donkey butt?
Man, I'd never fool myself into thinking a puta is 'fresh'! Especially Naomi's freaky ass! When I visited passions over the summer, Dayana wasn't working there anymore. I have her number and I think I called but it didn't work. As for Naomi, I think as long as she can get a cell phone signal, she'll be available!!
Rodeo
Last but not least, I never ended up hooking up with Dayana or Naomi because I was having just too much fun with what I had going so Rodeo if you read this those two should be nice and fresh for you. Lolol
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Hey everyone,
Kicking around the idea of heading down to DR for a little get away and did a forum search for O2 but still got a question. Sounds like at BB there's ind'l tipping/negotiations with the girls you get. Is that the same with O2? In other words, do I have to shell out all this money for the resort, and then still pay each girl that I see every day on an individual basis? Seems like a rip-off if that's the case.
Thanks,
R
I have been busy with work and life and just really read the recent threads.
A couple quick comments:
Just got back from a weeks stay in POP, stayed at FOD, my third time there....
Maniz,
Nice report. Thanks.
You seem plugged into FOD. If the sale goes through and you have any info, please pass it on.
Wouldn't it be funny if Yanqui69 was really one of the BB chicas?
He's no chica.
Despite the recent "pissing contest" allow me to assist....
I am with Yanqui on all this stuff. I am not trying to re-kindle this "pissing contest", but he has done a good job defending his points IMHO.
Nuff Said.
Let me start by saying thank you to all the guys here that have written reports about blackbeards and other places in the DR. Without them I would not have made the voyage here, and I am glad I did.....
....The mini fridge was stocked with some booze and water. I rushed to the shower and thought get ready for cold water. THERE WAS HOT WATER, and it worked. WOW! I was releived. Took my first shower and changed to some fresh shorts and sandals. It was time to make my way to the bar.
I just went over the threads again and realized I missed this one.
Nightcrawler,
It brought me back to my first time there, especially the parts about the beat up taxis and roofs.
I am happy for you that you had hot water. Last time down in July water pressure and temperature were still hopscotch.
I look forward to more specifics and part two. Don't forget names. I am a glutton for punishment and am returning in November. Intel on chicas is always appreciated.
P
Manizales911
09-28-09, 20:13
Hey everyone,
Kicking around the idea of heading down to DR for a little get away and did a forum search for O2 but still got a question. Sounds like at BB there's ind'l tipping/negotiations with the girls you get. Is that the same with O2? In other words, do I have to shell out all this money for the resort, and then still pay each girl that I see every day on an individual basis? Seems like a rip-off if that's the case.
Thanks,
RNo you don't,the girls are included. I did O2 quite some time ago and the only thing it has over BB's is the physical quality of the girls which after shagging enough hot girls in my life I have come to realize that for me it's all about performance. Don't get me wrong I won't bang a fugly EVER but I get better performance out of every girl in my phone book than any girl I had at O2
In fairness to John and in the name of common sense you guys are killing me with that exploitation argument LOL. Many people would say you are exploiting the girls by showing up and paying the small amount you pay to poor desperate people for sex.
Depends on how one CHOOSES to think about it. One can also say that the girls are exploiting the desperate guys for a chance at fast cash.
…You sound like some liberal from the states that is full of hypocrisy!
Pretty funny how you US conservatives are always tagging liberals about being hypocrites. The reason the liberals are liberals is they don’t like hypocrisy so they strive for a change. Conservatives are just too lazy and would rather ignore any kind of just fairness to do anything about it.
Depending on your desire (and capability) that can be
2 shots or 1. (This is where the guys in their 20s really get their money's worth).
Not in the long run they dont. They might be able to pop twice but 1/2 hour after the session their blue balls come right back and they have to do it again. The money they pay out is a lot more plus they their earning capacity is not yet at their peak years. So satisfaction is more easily obtained by the older guys with less money paid out. Such is life!!!
Aren't we all liberals for buying/getting puta?!? Or is that a conservative thing?
Conservatives are allowed to pick and choose from the liberal agendas... unless another conservative finds out.
Man, I'd never fool myself into thinking a puta is 'fresh'! Especially Naomi's freaky ass! When I visited passions over the summer, Dayana wasn't working there anymore. I have her number and I think I called but it didn't work. As for Naomi, I think as long as she can get a cell phone signal, she'll be available!!
Rodeo
There is always a girl who knows how to get the phone number of a past Passions dancer. Just ask the girls that are still working there. They will hook you up.
Is she donkey butt?Good question. I always said if she had more ass and some tits, she'd be more on my radar. She's definitely got the moves, personality and sensuality. I hope she didn't get a chitlin' bag with her new kid. For the uninitiated, that is a stomach chucked full of fat, excess skin and stretchmarks. Refers to the bag of chicken guts sometimes found when you buy a whole, refrigerated chicken (cleaned)--some use it for broth or flavoring.
Rodeo
Well let me tell you Dayana is working on B.B. now.But she take a brake because her mother was sick.
....I have come to realize that for me it's all about performance. Don't get me wrong I won't bang a fugly EVER but I get better performance out of every girl in my phone book than any girl I had at O2
You got that right!
It is all about performance (minus the fugly, obviously)
IMHO
Is she donkey butt?
The one they call "Donkey Butt" is Joanna.
I posted a couple of pics of her. (Pics taken-originally posted by Rodeo9112).
(But never saw a butt like hers on a donkey).
A cutie.
Extremely petite, (maybe only 5 ft).
Butt is a DR butt.
Hey everyone,
Kicking around the idea of heading down to DR for a little get away and did a forum search for O2 but still got a question. Sounds like at BB there's ind'l tipping/negotiations with the girls you get. Is that the same with O2? In other words, do I have to shell out all this money for the resort, and then still pay each girl that I see every day on an individual basis? Seems like a rip-off if that's the case.
Thanks,
RBB is not an "all-inclusive" but for the price you pay it is an extremely good deal. You pay as your go, with food, drink or the girls.
Frankly I find this better than a "one price" AI.
$42 dollars for 1-2 hours or $84 for overnight is dirt cheap.
Go to a "luxury" place and you will pay thousands for just a few days.
In BBs you would expect to pay a few hundred bucks a day.
(And that is for everything, room, bar, food, and several girls per day).
There is no prestige in overpaying.
Not in the long run they dont. They might be able to pop twice but 1/2 hour after the session their blue balls come right back and they have to do it again. The money they pay out is a lot more plus they their earning capacity is not yet at their peak years. So satisfaction is more easily obtained by the older guys with less money paid out. Such is life!!!As an "older guy" I agree;
the pleasure is not in "finishing" but in "how you get there."
After reading the last few posts, I would be inclined to believe that for $42 I get a room, drinks, food and a girl for sex for 1-2 hours. This seems very questionable if not outright completely misrepresented.
Does this rate include a room in which you spend the night?
How could meals be included since food alone could run more than $42
And drinks could run many time higher than $42.
And a girl is going to want a minimum of US $30 for a 1-2 session unless they are running specials.
I think some clarification is in order.
Thanks
Anybody from BB's know what or where Yuir"s sister Maria is?
Manizales911
09-30-09, 02:22
BB is not an "all-inclusive" but for the price you pay it is an extremely good deal. You pay as your go, with food, drink or the girls. Frankly I find this better than a "one price" AI.
$42 dollars for 1-2 hours or $84 for overnight is dirt cheap. Go to a "luxury" place and you will pay thousands for just a few days. In BBs you would expect to pay a few hundred bucks a day. (And that is for everything, room, bar, food, and several girls per day). There is no prestige in overpaying.Well said Yanqui. I might add that the accomodations aren't any better at O2 either. The shower in my room was kind of outside for christsakes. I have stayed at other AI adult resorts that had top notch everything though, such as the Xotic Beach House in Cartagena, CO. Which was nothing short of spectacular and where I met my novia of three years and the mother of my three month old daughter!
The one they call "Donkey Butt" is Joanna.
I posted a couple of pics of her. (Pics taken-originally posted by Rodeo9112).
(But never saw a butt like hers on a donkey).
A cutie.
Extremely petite, (maybe only 5 ft).
Butt is a DR butt.Oh, I thought we were talking about Yohanny...the slim girl who used to win all the bikini contests (more for her performances than how she looked in a bikini).
I definitely remember taking those pics of Joanna...that was a great weekend. My wingman ended up having Joanna and Ybel together and said that he almost died from over stimulation!
Rodeo
After reading the last few posts, I would be inclined to believe that for $42 I get a room, drinks, food and a girl for sex for 1-2 hours. This seems very questionable if not outright completely misrepresented.
Does this rate include a room in which you spend the night?
How could meals be included since food alone could run more than $42
And drinks could run many time higher than $42.
And a girl is going to want a minimum of US $30 for a 1-2 session unless they are running specials.
I think some clarification is in order.
ThanksThe $42 ans $84 rates he was telling you was for the girl only. 1500 pesos short time and 2500-3000 for all night. Hotels there cost anywhere from a low of $30 to $55 per night. Food is extra, but cheap.
After reading the last few posts, I would be inclined to believe that for $42 I get a room, drinks, food and a girl for sex for 1-2 hours. This seems very questionable if not outright completely misrepresented.
Does this rate include a room in which you spend the night?
How could meals be included since food alone could run more than $42
And drinks could run many time higher than $42.
And a girl is going to want a minimum of US $30 for a 1-2 session unless they are running specials.
I think some clarification is in order.
Thanks
$42 is just for the room. Meals and bar cost are separate and can either be paid at time of service or a tab can be run for your full visit. The girls charge a fixed price for either a short time (about $37) or all night ($71). Usually, you tip the girls extra for good service.
In response to this original post:
After reading the last few posts, I would be inclined to believe that for $42 I get a room, drinks, food and a girl for sex for 1-2 hours. This seems very questionable if not outright completely misrepresented.
Does this rate include a room in which you spend the night?
How could meals be included since food alone could run more than $42
And drinks could run many time higher than $42.
And a girl is going to want a minimum of US $30 for a 1-2 session unless they are running specials.
I think some clarification is in order.
Thanks
And to clarify this answer:
$42 is just for the room. Meals and bar cost are separate and can either be paid at time of service or a tab can be run for your full visit. The girls charge a fixed price for either a short time (about $37) or all night ($71). Usually, you tip the girls extra for good service.
Patrk,
The idea of your answer is correct, but the pricing is now off.
BBs is "pay as you go". Rooms range from $55 USD (single standard) to $119 (Penthouse suite) with several room grades and prices in between. These are all plus tax (16% or so in the DR).
Meals and Bar are reasonable and you can run a tab.
Chica prices are pre-negotiated at 1500 pesos ST (1-2 hours) and 3000 pesos TLN (all night). These translate to about $42 USD and $84 respectively at the current exchange rate.
BBs website is http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com
I hope this clears this up.
P
Anybody from BB's know what or where Yuir"s sister Maria is?
I may be thinking of someone else. Does she go by Esmeralda also?
$42 is just for the room. Meals and bar cost are separate and can either be paid at time of service or a tab can be run for your full visit. The girls charge a fixed price for either a short time (about $37) or all night ($71). Usually, you tip the girls extra for good service.
No, the rooms start at $55 and $60 for singles, and higher for suites, etc.
The girls get 1500 pesos for a Short Time and 3000 for Overnight.
At current rates thats about 42 and 84 dollars.
Love Seeker
10-03-09, 16:17
BlackBeards may have competition on the South East Coast.
Dominican republic - Hotel Romeo y Julieta http://www.caribbean-hotel-romeo-y-julieta.com/
I will be back in the DR December 12 - Jan 2. Plan on staying in condo in Costambar near BB's. But always looking for adventure.
BlackBeards may have competition on the South East Coast.
Dominican republic - Hotel Romeo y Julieta http://www.caribbean-hotel-romeo-y-julieta.com/
I will be back in the DR December 12 - Jan 2. Plan on staying in condo in Costambar near BB's. But always looking for adventure.
There are no girls on-site at the above mentioned hotel, I assume they will call chicas for you???
It is just a small hotel in Juan Dolio.
Catfish296
10-03-09, 19:44
BlackBeards may have competition on the South East Coast.
Dominican republic - Hotel Romeo y Julieta http://www.caribbean-hotel-romeo-y-julieta.com/
I will be back in the DR December 12 - Jan 2. Plan on staying in condo in Costambar near BB's. But always looking for adventure.That cracks me up because that hotel is now the home of T.S.A.H.
http://www.totalsatisfactionadultholidays.co.uk/
There are no girls on-site at the above mentioned hotel, I assume they will call chicas for you???
It is just a small hotel in Juan Dolio.I sent an email to ask for more information. As I'll be soon in RD, i'm interested. Juan dolio is a quiet place and having girls at hand would be great.
BlackBeards may have competition on the South East Coast.
Dominican republic - Hotel Romeo y Julieta http://www.caribbean-hotel-romeo-y-julieta.com/
I will be back in the DR December 12 - Jan 2. Plan on staying in condo in Costambar near BB's. But always looking for adventure.BB and FOD should improve their web site to be as sexy as this one. I'm sure that I would have visited one of them at least one time if their web site were sexy.
This place is a joke. I would advise anybody thinking about going here not to.
There are alot better places around.
BlackBeards may have competition on the South East Coast.
Dominican republic - Hotel Romeo y Julieta http://www.caribbean-hotel-romeo-y-julieta.com/
I will be back in the DR December 12 - Jan 2. Plan on staying in condo in Costambar near BB's. But always looking for adventure.
Can't promote sex on a website.
That is why Blackbeards, Field of Dreams, Haiti House, Medellin Manision (now a boutique hotel, ya whatever LOL).
In the DR the police would shut them down, probably the others also.
BB and FOD should improve their web site to be as sexy as this one. I'm sure that I would have visited one of them at least one time if their web site were sexy.
Several years ago the BB website published photos of about 30 of the girls there. They came under official-legal scrutiny and started getting a lot of heat from the authorities over there for promoting prostitution (as if it wasn't present elsewhere on the island).
Now the closest they can come to that are bikini pics in their newsletter.
Likewise FOD. When it was being opened as Cristal's Mustang Ranch, they posted a "directory' of pics of girls. They almost got closed down before they opened.
FOD showed some hot pics of a private bikini contest for a while, - and they got pulled after a while as well.
More than once BB has been the subject of a DR newspaper "investigative report" "exposing" it as luring Dominican women into the sex industry.
(Curiously, Dominican-owned places like Cristal's, El Bohen, etc, are never mentioned. Hyocrisy or the right people not getting paid).
Places like this have to stay inconspicuous, in order not to draw too much public attention and to provide little "evidence" for the (corrupt) authorities to work with.
As this Juan Dolio ad demonstrates, you can't base your travel decision on a slick website.
One benefit of this site is to find out what a place is like before you commit the cash.
This place is a joke. I would advise anybody thinking about going here not to.
There are alot better places around.I read some bad things about hotel romeo y julieta before, I have been to juan dolio several times. I can guarantee, the chicas in that web ad will not be at that hotel.
All inclusive hotel, coral costa caribe in juan dolio, can be booked for two people, food and drink for 70 dollars per night.
Embassy suites, los marlin in country club, in juan dolio is very nice for about 100 per night.
Plaza real hotel, juan dolio, can be booked for 54 dollars per night on orbitz.
The only brothel I saw in Juan Dolio is called caprchios, some attractive chicas, I wouldn't recommend juan dolio for mongering.
BoricuaOnline
10-04-09, 16:22
BlackBeards may have competition on the South East Coast.
Dominican republic - Hotel Romeo y Julieta http://www.caribbean-hotel-romeo-y-julieta.com/
I will be back in the DR December 12 - Jan 2. Plan on staying in condo in Costambar near BB's. But always looking for adventure.
I showed the link of this place over a year ago in BC or SD forum. A monger visited the place and there were no girls! The website has not changed in over a year.
I showed the link of this place over a year ago in BC or SD forum. A monger visited the place and there were no girls! The website has not changed in over a year.
That was indeed confirmed by an expat, who lives in Santo Domingo during an actual visit to Hotel Romeo y Julieta, there are NO CHICAS.
If I recall the report, they were also unaccomodating at the bar.
Several years ago the BB website published photos of about 30 of the girls there. They came under official-legal scrutiny and started getting a lot of heat from the authorities over there for promoting prostitution (as if it wasn't present elsewhere on the island).
Now the closest they can come to that are bikini pics in their newsletter.
Likewise FOD. When it was being opened as Cristal's Mustang Ranch, they posted a "directory' of pics of girls. They almost got closed down before they opened. FOD showed some hot pics of a private bikini contest for a while,. And they got pulled after a while as well.
More than once BB has been the subject of a DR newspaper "investigative report" "exposing" it as luring Dominican women into the sex industry. (Curiously, Dominican-owned places like Cristal's, El Bohen, etc, are never mentioned. Hyocrisy or the right people not getting paid).
Places like this have to stay inconspicuous, in order not to draw too much public attention and to provide little "evidence" for the (corrupt) authorities to work with. As this Juan Dolio ad demonstrates, you can't base your travel decision on a slick website.
One benefit of this site is to find out what a place is like before you commit the cash.thank you. It makes sens. I also understand official point of view (Hypocrisy). I've never seen any report about the over places you mention lately
Love Seeker
10-05-09, 20:44
How does Peter at La Passions get away with thier web site?
http://www.lapassion-sosua.com/index.php?soundstatus=off
Traveler04
10-06-09, 00:49
How does La Passions get away with this site? The answer is simple. Is there any direct statement about sexual services that might be available or do the options and price ranges on the menu for "full service" "take out" etc. only imply that sex is included? We (the educated) know as a result of discussions on this board what is offered. However, would the same be true of the uneducated casual web surfer who stumbles onto their site by accident? The pictures used on the site are not a secret to the girls and I am sure are posted with their consent. The place is advertised as a massage parlor that has a bar with a pool etc. not a ***** house.
A place like this has a better chance to fly under the radar because it is a legal business (massage parlor) and thus does not raise any real media attention. Most of the media attention is brought on when a former employee is willing to tell all to anyone that will listen. Few employees would do this because as angry as they might be they would not want their family / friends to "really" know how mommy is paying the bills.
How does Peter at La Passions get away with thier web site?
http://www.lapassion-sosua.com/index.php?soundstatus=off
Peter's paying someone in government off, every month that person or persons are getting a cut. It's the DR way. Certain practices that are legal in one part of DR may be illegal in another.
The whole country in my opinion is corrupt.
I can't even think of a third World country that is not susceptible to political corruption. Corruption doesn't discriminate it includes bribes, embezzlement, extortion, money laundering and drug trafficking. Oh and drugs just read the Dominican Republic news on D R 1 . com every day of the week to see how many kilos they busted.....and that's the ones they want the DR police to find.
Money is the whole reason that the World keeps turning. Not love, not nobility, not even reproduction...just money.
That's why we mongers keep going and going. Where in the US can I go and pick up a beautiful woman at night for $50 to $80 and spank her all night......and then wake up and do the same thing lunch time the next day for less.
Bigup......and no I'm not Jamaican I just like the name.
Peter's paying someone in government off, every month that person or persons are getting a cut. It's the DR way. Certain practices that are legal in one part of DR may be illegal in another.
The whole country in my opinion is corrupt.
I can't even think of a third World country that is not susceptible to political corruption. Corruption doesn't discriminate it includes bribes, embezzlement, extortion, money laundering and drug trafficking. Oh and drugs just read the Dominican Republic news on D R 1 . com every day of the week to see how many kilos they busted.....and that's the ones they want the DR police to find.
Money is the whole reason that the World keeps turning. Not love, not nobility, not even reproduction...just money.
That's why we mongers keep going and going. Where in the US can I go and pick up a beautiful woman at night for $50 to $80 and spank her all night......and then wake up and do the same thing lunch time the next day for less.
Bigup......and no I'm not Jamaican I just like the name.
Yes. Corruption is the curse of the DR.
Doesn't matter what you study, how hard you try to get ahead.
As long as the people in charge at every level are stealing off the top,
that population will exist in poverty.
I doubt Peter pays anyone off.He has alot of local buisness also.
Blackops93
10-06-09, 16:07
I was in the DR in June on a mongering / dive trip. I spent my days diving even through the diving was poor. Most of the sites are in Sosua Bay and are bleached reefs. The shops cannot own dive boats so they use the small boats available on the beach. The wreck , Airport Wall and Five Rocks (also out by the airport) are the best. Paradise Island is nice but it is a full day road trip. $75 for two tanks.
I considered staying at BB but chose the New Garden to avoid the daily trip into Sousa. I was solo and do not speak any Spanish. I did meet up with a bunch of cool guys and had a good time but after awhile Sosua did get to be bit over whelming. Don’t worry about the ‘procedure’ for hooking up with chicas. They were all over me in Sosua. What I had to learn was how to get rid of them. I’m sure setting up dates will be easy in BB’s hand holding environment. Enjoy.
The link to my Sosua trip report
904063Thanks for the info John. I too will be solo and do not speak spanish. I figured the diving was poor but lets face it. thats my cover for the trip and the diving will provide me with a break from the local talent so that I don't od on the DR goodness. As for the procedure to clarify I just wanted to make sure I could tell which chicas were available and which are not.
Marc Anthony
10-06-09, 17:06
How does Peter at La Passions get away with thier web site?
http://www.lapassion-sosua.com/index.php?soundstatus=off
I think it also matters that it's not promoted as a "sex tourism" destination - it's just a local entertainment spot. People don't stay there and don't travel in order to go there. Consider that the US has plenty of massage parlors, topless and nude bars, and assorted adult venues but you won't find much promoted as a sex tourism destination.
Most of the business ventures that got themselves in trouble tried to do that. FOD was conceived as an appropriately low profile place but when it was bought out from Billy L the new ownership thought they could get away with promoting it openly for sex tourism and despite local connections and experience it didn't work - and has now reverted back to a lower key approach under ANOECA.
It may seem like a subtle difference on this board but the public impression given by a massage place/tropical bar with cute girls VS. a resort promoting itself for single men's sex vacations is huge.
FOD was conceived as an appropriately low profile place but when it was bought out from Billy L the new ownership thought they could get away with promoting it openly for sex tourism and despite local connections and experience it didn't work - and has now reverted back to a lower key approach under ANOECA.
Billy never "owned" FOD, he manages Alberto's ventures. Alberto always was, and still is the owner, when the Cristals folks managed/owned it, and did not pay their note to Alberto, he took it back. Really just semantics. Billy is very good at what he does, and is a gracious host.
How does Peter at La Passions get away with thier web site?
http://www.lapassion-sosua.com/index.php?soundstatus=offHe doesn't get away with it, he plays the game. Germans were the first mongers on the scene many years ago. They have several established buisinesses that have thrived for years. They are well connected and only associate within their click. A monger on this board stated that germans are very arrogant, and always feel they are right. I don't know about that description, but I have never had a german approach me and start a conversation. They are lowkey and stick to attending their biz. Why arent there any long term successful american buisinesses in Sosua? Could it be anti-American sentiment? Could it be that we don't want to play the game? But right now the Dominicans, Germans, and a few italians control Sosua.
Manizales911
10-06-09, 20:06
Billy never "owned" FOD, he manages Alberto's ventures. Alberto always was, and still is the owner, when the Cristals folks managed/owned it, and did not pay their note to Alberto, he took it back. Really just semantics. Billy is very good at what he does, and is a gracious host.I think the reason people think Billy owned FOD is he at one time in fact was part owner of BB's. He told me himself that he was 36% owner at one time.
Why arent there any long term successful american buisinesses in Sosua? Could it be anti-American sentiment? Could it be that we don't want to play the game? But right now the Dominicans, Germans, and a few italians control Sosua.
That is a very accurate assessment of Sosua! Germans "Stick Together" and support each other in most business endeavors. Other than the bars, take a look at the foods that are sold in Playero, the different german butchers and products in Sosua. The two Honda dealers(Sosua & Cabarete) are Germans and other countless references. Heck, they even sell real german beer in "El Flow", Heineken is Dutch. Now why aren't there many successful American businesses?? I only know of a few and I can't really judge how successful they really are. This is very good topic, because on DR1, people from the US are forever posting about starting a business or other ways to make income in the DR.
I am American and I have many German friends in Sosua, but I don't know how successful I would be if I opened up a restaurant and sold Hotdogs & Burgers with a cold can of Budweisser, instead of Currywurst mit Brotchen und eine Weissbeir.
I think the reason people think Billy owned FOD is he at one time in fact was part owner of BB's. He told me himself that he was 36% owner at one time.
No problema, he did indeed set up The Sand Trap Inn for Alberto, (pre BB days) so let's assume he had some kind of interest. Most stories have a mas o menos factor in DR.
Billy is a solid guy and has helped many mongers over the years.
Field of Dreams may be getting the mortgage paid by Alberto and Anoeca but there are "Other people" with money in FOD I know them.Everyone hasn't been paid yet after the defaults and such.I think Billy has money in it too.
Roger Dodger 007
10-08-09, 08:49
Greetings to my fellow Mongers.1st time posting.1st time mongering. My first country to conquest is Santo Domingo. Thanks to all your posting I believe I'm ready to do battle with the natives. LOL.
I booked the room at BB. And from what I hear. The resort is booking up fast!
I will be there from nov 4th. Nov 10th. A full report to follow.
Nando the perv.
May I be the first to point out that Santo Domingo is not a country but the capital of the Dominican Republic. I hope you are not thinking that BB is in Santo Domingo. Because if you do, you will have a long taxi/bus ride to get there if your point of arrival is SD!
BoricuaOnline
10-08-09, 09:49
May I be the first to point out that Santo Domingo is not a country but the capital of the Dominican Republic. I hope you are not thinking that BB is in Santo Domingo. Because if you do, you will have a long taxi/bus ride to get there if your point of arrival is SD!
LOL I was thinking the same, hope he booked his flight into POP instead of SDQ.
John from NJ
10-09-09, 19:12
Thanks for the info John. I too will be solo and do not speak spanish. I figured the diving was poor but lets face it. thats my cover for the trip and the diving will provide me with a break from the local talent so that I don't od on the DR goodness. As for the procedure to clarify I just wanted to make sure I could tell which chicas were available and which are not.Diving is the cover I also use & it does provide a welcome break. There is no way I could sit around the motel all day every day.
Basically all the chicas you run into will be available. Trust me; they will let you know that they are available. Consider staying at the New Garden. Nice motel where chicas hanging out from late morning to early evening.
Also consider trying Curacao instead of the DR. The diving is world class and evening entertainment can be found at the Campo which is a large legal brothel. It’s safe, cheap, and the ladies are fun and accommodating.
I was asked to post a pic of Wendy at FOD.
(One more to follow).
I was asked to post a pic of Wendy at FOD.
(One more to follow).
Damned thing won't let me post the second pic, but for those interested, if visiting FOD, Wendy has a great butt and legs and, has been mentioned before can go at it like the Energizer Bunny. A very good time.
A must for anyone visiting FOD.
MacGyver22
10-10-09, 00:21
I'm thinking about a quick trip down to try out BB's for the first time as well. I'm an experienced monger, but have never done a destination like this before.
How many girls can we expect this time of year? What type of room is suggested - I'm leaning towards the single deluxe or Jacuzzi (is it Jacuzzi worth it here?)
This seems very different than other places I've been, seems more like going hunting at the zoo, but it might be worth a shot. Any other tips and tricks would be appreciated as I can't find a BB specific page on here.
Thanks,
Mac
Greetings to my fellow Mongers.1st time posting.1st time mongering. My first country to conquest is Santo Domingo. Thanks to all your posting I believe I'm ready to do battle with the natives. LOL.
I booked the room at BB. And from what I hear. The resort is booking up fast!
I will be there from nov 4th. Nov 10th. A full report to follow.
Nando the perv.
anyone in the n.y. flight to puerto during the time of october26- november5 is at $89.00 dollars each way. there are 20 seats taking on the plane. just throwing that info out there to you guys. if anyone is going down during that time holla at me on my p.m.
adult lowest fare $89.00 usd
mon, 26 oct 09
flight 815
10:15 am depart new york city (jfk)
1:51 pm arrive puerto plata, dr (pop)
adult lowest fare $89.00 usd
thu, 05 nov 09
flight 812
12:30 pm depart puerto plata, dr (pop)
3:18 pm arrive new york city (jfk)
going out
airfare / adult ( details) $ 89.00 usd
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Manizales911
10-10-09, 15:32
I'm thinking about a quick trip down to try out BB's for the first time as well. I'm an experienced monger, but have never done a destination like this before.
How many girls can we expect this time of year? What type of room is suggested - I'm leaning towards the single deluxe or Jacuzzi (is it Jacuzzi worth it here?)
This seems very different than other places I've been, seems more like going hunting at the zoo, but it might be worth a shot. Any other tips and tricks would be appreciated as I can't find a BB specific page on here.
Thanks,
MacBB's is a fun place and yes it is like hunting at the zoo except you are in the cage with the animals. If you are there for more than three or four days you may want to check out the city of Sosua also unless you have no spanish speaking skills. The deluxe single is the best room for your money,the only time I had the jacuzzi suite the jacuzzi got lukewarm at best,don't know if it has been fixed. You will pay big bucks for a taxi to and from the airport,no way around it but make sure on the way in you have the driver stop at Jennys market and exchange your money there it will help offset the ransom you will pay the taxista. There are always twenty to thirty girls at BB's this time of year.
I'm thinking about a quick trip down to try out BB's for the first time as well. I'm an experienced monger, but have never done a destination like this before.
How many girls can we expect this time of year? What type of room is suggested - I'm leaning towards the single deluxe or Jacuzzi (is it Jacuzzi worth it here?)
This seems very different than other places I've been, seems more like going hunting at the zoo, but it might be worth a shot. Any other tips and tricks would be appreciated as I can't find a BB specific page on here.
Thanks,
Mac
Selection-wise, they maintain a total of around 40-50, but only in day and evening "shifts" so, including time off, about 10-15 may be there. During slow periods, (early in week, seasonal, etc) many beg off, so as not to waste their time when few clients are there. If you want one not there, or see one from the bikini contest pics, the mamasan will call her to come in for you.
The deluxe singles have king-size vs. queen beds. The standards are also nice. Recently renovated and have large, marbled showers with ledges, or banks for sitting, lying, etc. Room enough for a group shower. Have tried the jacuzzi suite, but was not impressed. A large bath with jacuzzi, but the marble floors get dangerously slippery, and the open overhead window means keep door closed to avoid heating rest of suite.
The group-sized jacuzzi is huge, holds 30 or more, and is stand-up/pool sized. Is fenced for privacy, though I prefer it by night, slightly more privacy, though open to other couples, etc.
For those more into "hunting" it might be boring. Its a bit like renting accomodations in a brothel. All the girls are there to make money.
For those with limited time or patience, its great.
I liken it to eating seafood. I can spend hours hunting for lobster or simply pick out the one I want from the tank.
If you are there to hunt for lobster -or just to eat lobster, it makes a difference.
Selection-wise, they maintain a total of around 40-50, but only in day and evening "shifts" so, including time off, about 10-15 may be there. During slow periods, (early in week, seasonal, etc) many beg off, so as not to waste their time when few clients are there. If you want one not there, or see one from the bikini contest pics, the mamasan will call her to come in for you.
The deluxe singles have king-size vs. queen beds. The standards are also nice. Recently renovated and have large, marbled showers with ledges, or banks for sitting, lying, etc. Room enough for a group shower. Have tried the jacuzzi suite, but was not impressed. A large bath with jacuzzi, but the marble floors get dangerously slippery, and the open overhead window means keep door closed to avoid heating rest of suite.
The group-sized jacuzzi is huge, holds 30 or more, and is stand-up/pool sized. Is fenced for privacy, though I prefer it by night, slightly more privacy, though open to other couples, etc.
For those more into "hunting" it might be boring. Its a bit like renting accomodations in a brothel. All the girls are there to make money.
For those with limited time or patience, its great.
I liken it to eating seafood. I can spend hours hunting for lobster or simply pick out the one I want from the tank.
If you are there to hunt for lobster -or just to eat lobster, it makes a difference.Good information. Passions seems similar to BB. Does one have any benefits over the other?
After my five nights at the Viva Wyndham (see post under Sosua), I hopped in my crappy rental car and headed to BB's for my last two nights in the D. R.
Getting from the main highway to the Costambar gate, and past the gate, requires negotiating substandard roads. But bad roads aside, Costambar appears to be a very safe environment. And of course, once on BB's property, guests enjoy an extra layer of safety. Pulling up to BB's was very exciting, almost surreal. I'd read so much about BB's on this great board, and to finally be here was awesome!
Went to the desk and was greeted by a clerk and then by Tim, an American. He's obviously a manager, owner, or part-owner. He's a very friendly guy, and gave me a rundown of how things work. Contrary to what a previous poster said, the rates of 1500 ST and 3000 TLN are MAXIMUM rates and not minimum. Tim said that if things are slow, and they appeared to be very slow, girls can be had for less. He says if a girl is caught trying to extract more than those amounts from a hobbyist, there are consequences.
I was surprised to find out that BB's has no parking lot, but Tim said it's perfectly safe to park on the street (as if there were a choice). Few cars there, and a few motos, so it seems that most people (guests, girls, staff) get there via taxi.
The restaurant is surprisingly clean and good, and I'm a picky eater. I had one dinner there, which was halibut and rice, and two breakfasts of scrambled eggs. For the second breakfast, I asked the waitress if I could have rice instead of potatoes, and my request was met!
It's a very relaxed, low-key environment. Girls are not allowed to pester guests like the unregulated Sosua skanks do. The most they'll do is say "Hi/hola" when a guy walks by, then it's up to him if he wants to extend the conversation.
The rooms are very basic and old, yet better than I expected. Single deluxe includes a spacious sitting area, and is larger than my room at the Wyndham! Generous-size fridge, which is always handy, but the bathroom (at least in my room) is ratty. Other than the bathroom, cleanliness is good. There were ants in the room, but I should point out that even my fancy-pants Viva Wyndham had ants in the room. So perhaps this is a common occurrence in the D. R. That simply needs to be ignored. My room is on the end, so I think it has an extra window that other rooms don't have. I had a view of the street, and it appears that there's only three rooms which have that view. Other rooms overlook only an empty lot. My room was B-7, on the second floor (I think that's what the "B" refers to).
Now for my chica. At about 10 on my first night, I was feeling so tired that I wasn't even sure if I'd partake! But then I reminded myself that I'm at the world-famous BB's, and I must take advantage. So I see this chick wearing short shorts, with dimples (face) and good eyes. I like a woman to have eyes. I asked her to join me at the bar, and started conversating. Would she be interested in spending the night? She answered YES very quickly. I was thinking that at 10 pm she might only want ST, leaving her options open, but that was not the case. Or maybe the chicks aren't allowed to turn a guy down? Fact is, there appeared to be WAY more girls then horny guys, so I think all the girls would accept whatever offer is made. I was thinking about what Tim said, that it's possible to pay less than the max prices, but I didn't see any reason to pursue that. Although with the overstock of women, it's likely she would have accepted.
Something I'm wondering – perhaps a more experienced brother can answer. The girls who don't get selected for TLN – where do they sleep?
Once we got in the room and her clothes came off, there was disappointment. Not ugly, but chunky and droopy (damn push-up bra! ). Of course, in the common areas' dim lighting at night, my error was understandable. So for anybody going to BB's, I suggest you appraise the merchandise during daylight.
As I requested, we showered together and she washed me. We did the deed (BJ was covered as others mentioned), then we went to sleep, both of us naked under the covers. A second pop wasn't discussed, but in the morning we started knocking boots. Unfortunately, I couldn't complete the task. Hey, I'm in my 50's! Payment is rendered at session's end, which of course is how it should be.
We had breakfast together, I paid her, and I mentioned that I need to go to Puerto Plata to buy junky souvenirs for family members. She tried to offer her "companionship" for my junket, but she couldn't close that deal. I wanted to get those trinkets quickly and get back to BB's, so she would have been dead weight. I ended up not leaving for PP until 4 pm, so I offered her a ride because I knew she was taking the bus that day back to her home in Santiago. Unfortunately, she said she can't leave until 6.
This will sound outrageous, but she was the ONLY chica I had at BB's! The second night, I was low on energy and low on pesos, so I turned in early. Pathetic, I know.
The next day there were several girls in bikinis lounging around the pool, and I could see that they were better lookers than my choice. No time to partake even if I wanted to, because I had to check out and drive to Santiago airport. Next time I fly into Puerto Plata and forget the rental car!
For the purpose it serves, BB's is great. The only real drawback to BB's is its isolated location. But if you want a safe and easy environment, with good food and reasonably-priced good women, BB's is what you seek.
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SavePros321
10-11-09, 11:56
Something I'm wondering – perhaps a more experienced brother can answer. The girls who don't get selected for TLN – where do they sleep?
Lol, they just catch a motochoncho back to their (real) homes as no chicas live at BB's.
Good trip report though!
SavePros321
10-11-09, 12:05
Good information. Passions seems similar to BB. Does one have any benefits over the other?
Passions is not an adult resort like BB's. IMHO BB's girls are far more attractive than Passions Girls. Passion's girls also happen to be more expensive than BB's
-La Passions is in Sosua and BB is in Puerto Plata
-You can do Passion girls at the establishment, shower, and leave, or you can take them from Passions if you pay the "salida" or "exit" fee; You do BB girls in your hotel room, only once you finish with a girl SHE showers and leaves, and you roll over and take nap! (or go back down to the main area and find another chica or to eat or drink)
[QUOTE=Xmand]
Something I'm wondering – perhaps a more experienced brother can answer. The girls who don't get selected for TLN – where do they sleep?
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A few live in Puerto Plata or in Imbert.
They can take a motoconcho or bus home at night.
Many, from places like Santiago or Santo Domingo, etc) have to rent low-cost rooms locally, (Costambar or Puerto Plata).
(Part of the overhead expenses involved with the job)
P.S.
In addition to the chance to make some extra money (3000 vs. 1500 pesos)
she gets to spend the night in much better conditions than she would have at home or walking back at night to a cheap rented room (clean, secure, air-conditioning, etc). (Charo, the ex-mamasan once reminded me that the hotel rooms were worlds better than the conditions these girls have at home).
Lastly, (depending on the guy she's with) she may get a decent breakfast in the morning.
So, all around, TLN is a desireable gig for the girls.
After my five nights at the Viva Wyndham (see post under Sosua), I hopped in my crappy rental car and headed to BB's for my last two nights in the D. R.
Getting from the main highway to the Costambar gate, and past the gate, requires negotiating substandard roads. But bad roads aside, Costambar appears to be a very safe environment. And of course, once on BB's property, guests enjoy an extra layer of safety. Pulling up to BB's was very exciting, almost surreal. I'd read so much about BB's on this great board, and to finally be here was awesome!
Went to the desk and was greeted by a clerk and then by Tim, an American. He's obviously a manager, owner, or part-owner. He's a very friendly guy, and gave me a rundown of how things work. Contrary to what a previous poster said, the rates of 1500 ST and 3000 TLN are MAXIMUM rates and not minimum. Tim said that if things are slow, and they appeared to be very slow, girls can be had for less. He says if a girl is caught trying to extract more than those amounts from a hobbyist, there are consequences.
I was surprised to find out that BB's has no parking lot, but Tim said it's perfectly safe to park on the street (as if there were a choice). Few cars there, and a few motos, so it seems that most people (guests, girls, staff) get there via taxi.
The restaurant is surprisingly clean and good, and I'm a picky eater. I had one dinner there, which was halibut and rice, and two breakfasts of scrambled eggs. For the second breakfast, I asked the waitress if I could have rice instead of potatoes, and my request was met!
It's a very relaxed, low-key environment. Girls are not allowed to pester guests like the unregulated Sosua skanks do. The most they'll do is say "Hi/hola" when a guy walks by, then it's up to him if he wants to extend the conversation.
The rooms are very basic and old, yet better than I expected. Single deluxe includes a spacious sitting area, and is larger than my room at the Wyndham! Generous-size fridge, which is always handy, but the bathroom (at least in my room) is ratty. Other than the bathroom, cleanliness is good. There were ants in the room, but I should point out that even my fancy-pants Viva Wyndham had ants in the room. So perhaps this is a common occurrence in the D. R. That simply needs to be ignored. My room is on the end, so I think it has an extra window that other rooms don't have. I had a view of the street, and it appears that there's only three rooms which have that view. Other rooms overlook only an empty lot. My room was B-7, on the second floor (I think that's what the "B" refers to).
Now for my chica. At about 10 on my first night, I was feeling so tired that I wasn't even sure if I'd partake! But then I reminded myself that I'm at the world-famous BB's, and I must take advantage. So I see this chick wearing short shorts, with dimples (face) and good eyes. I like a woman to have eyes. I asked her to join me at the bar, and started conversating. Would she be interested in spending the night? She answered YES very quickly. I was thinking that at 10 pm she might only want ST, leaving her options open, but that was not the case. Or maybe the chicks aren't allowed to turn a guy down? Fact is, there appeared to be WAY more girls then horny guys, so I think all the girls would accept whatever offer is made. I was thinking about what Tim said, that it's possible to pay less than the max prices, but I didn't see any reason to pursue that. Although with the overstock of women, it's likely she would have accepted.
Something I'm wondering – perhaps a more experienced brother can answer. The girls who don't get selected for TLN – where do they sleep?
Once we got in the room and her clothes came off, there was disappointment. Not ugly, but chunky and droopy (damn push-up bra! ). Of course, in the common areas' dim lighting at night, my error was understandable. So for anybody going to BB's, I suggest you appraise the merchandise during daylight.
As I requested, we showered together and she washed me. We did the deed (BJ was covered as others mentioned), then we went to sleep, both of us naked under the covers. A second pop wasn't discussed, but in the morning we started knocking boots. Unfortunately, I couldn't complete the task. Hey, I'm in my 50's! Payment is rendered at session's end, which of course is how it should be.
We had breakfast together, I paid her, and I mentioned that I need to go to Puerto Plata to buy junky souvenirs for family members. She tried to offer her "companionship" for my junket, but she couldn't close that deal. I wanted to get those trinkets quickly and get back to BB's, so she would have been dead weight. I ended up not leaving for PP until 4 pm, so I offered her a ride because I knew she was taking the bus that day back to her home in Santiago. Unfortunately, she said she can't leave until 6.
This will sound outrageous, but she was the ONLY chica I had at BB's! The second night, I was low on energy and low on pesos, so I turned in early. Pathetic, I know.
The next day there were several girls in bikinis lounging around the pool, and I could see that they were better lookers than my choice. No time to partake even if I wanted to, because I had to check out and drive to Santiago airport. Next time I fly into Puerto Plata and forget the rental car!
For the purpose it serves, BB's is great. The only real drawback to BB's is its isolated location. But if you want a safe and easy environment, with good food and reasonably-priced good women, BB's is what you seek.
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Sounds like a positive experience, all in all.
Amigo: two suggestions for next time:
1. Before spending TLN with a girl, have a ST first, to see if you would want a TLN. If you had offered a ST first, you could have invited her to TLN later if you wished.
2. The pharmacy in Costambar (5 min. walk) sells generic Cialis (La Pela) for much less than you can get even via foreign pharmaceutical websites.
Also,
For changing money in the Puerto Plata area, you will not find better rates than at Jenny's Supermarket in Costambar. You pass it on your way to BB.
If you have time, next time pick a chica you like and walk to the beach in Costambar (5 min. walk in opposite direction from Jenny's and the pharmacy).
Rent a couple of cots from the guy there, put them under one of the small trees on the beach, get a beer or two from the little stand there, and lay back with your chica watching the waves. On weekdays, you will have the place almost all to yourself. Very relaxing.
A better experience next time.
I was asked to post a pic of Wendy at FOD.
(One more to follow).I looked for Wendy at FOD this past weekend be could not find her. Does she still work at FOD or where has she gone?
Here's some photos from this past weekend's bikini contest at BB.
Roger Dodger 007
10-15-09, 08:05
Here's some photos from this past weekend's bikini contest at BB.
Seems that BB Management have a new hiring policy - "Girls must have big tits!"
Reiner Otto
10-15-09, 11:20
Here's some photos from this past weekend's bikini contest at BB.
Hey, I am just planning my first trip to DR next month. I am tired of the blonds in Ukraine, where I usually go. Want to taste some chocolate.
I decided on Sosua, to go to. But looking at these girls: Are they visitors to BB or are they available ? Being a fan of big tits, I might change my plans.
In case, they are available: Any possibility to book one in advance ?
Hey, I am just planning my first trip to DR next month. I am tired of the blonds in Ukraine, where I usually go. Want to taste some chocolate.
I decided on Sosua, to go to. But looking at these girls: Are they visitors to BB or are they available ? Being a fan of big tits, I might change my plans.
In case, they are available: Any possibility to book one in advance ?All of the girls in the Blackbeards Bikini Contest are Blackbeards regulars. They are avaiable for takeout, but you have to pay a Salida of 700 or 800 DOP. Plus the BB rates no longer apply so you'll have to negotiate ST/LT prices.
The girl in the pink bikini is an awesome performer, she won the contest when I was there in August with a hell of a show that involved maple syrup and the judges. She also puts on a great show in the room!
Since this is your first trip, I strongly suggest BB's. It is a guarantee of having a good time, not that Sousa is not fun, just more of an on your own thing. Whereas BB's has been compared many times to shooting fish in a barrel.
BTW. Since like big tits go through the photo gallery for some pictures of Giselle. She has some huge tits and knows how to use them!
Seems that BB Management have a new hiring policy - "Girls must have big tits!"The policy looks good to me. I may have to plan a vacation around a 1-2 night stay at Blackbeards!
-Helpmann :)
Hey, I am just planning my first trip to DR next month. I am tired of the blonds in Ukraine, where I usually go. Want to taste some chocolate.
I decided on Sosua, to go to. But looking at these girls: Are they visitors to BB or are they available ? Being a fan of big tits, I might change my plans.
In case, they are available: Any possibility to book one in advance ?
I am not sure about advance reservations but they are definately available.
Here's some photos from this past weekend's bikini contest at BB.
Thanks Lop.
Marc Anthony
10-16-09, 18:12
No problema, he did indeed set up The Sand Trap Inn for Alberto, (pre BB days) so let's assume he had some kind of interest. Most stories have a mas o menos factor in DR.
Billy is a solid guy and has helped many mongers over the years.
I was a guest at the Sand Trap and though I didn't invest in FOD I was aware of the details from the beginning. FOD was financed through Anoeca but it was something Billy originated and supervised. A good fraction of the money was invested by Billy's contacts (he raised it) even though the project was handled through Anoeca to provide more security to the investors. From it's inception Billy never expected to have a controlling interest. I have no idea what happened eventually with the investors or the status but both Billy and Alberto have a good reputation and a lot of experience.
I live on the west coast of Canada and there are no convient flights tp Puerto Plata. There are flights to Punta Cuna. I am therefore thinking about staying at a resort in Punta Cuna for a day or two and then travelling to Puerta Plata to stay at BB's. Are there any local flights or decent buses? Is renting a car and driving a reasonable idea?
This will be my first visit ot the DR and I do not speak Spanish.
I live on the west coast of Canada and there are no convient flights tp Puerto Plata. There are flights to Punta Cuna. I am therefore thinking about staying at a resort in Punta Cuna for a day or two and then travelling to Puerta Plata to stay at BB's. Are there any local flights or decent buses? Is renting a car and driving a reasonable idea?
This will be my first visit ot the DR and I do not speak Spanish.You can take a bus from Punta Cana to Santo Domingo. From Santo Domingo to Puerto Plata there are at least two bus companies that go to Puerto Plata, several times per day.
You can rent a car and drive, if you don't mind driving. If you drive, you will learn Spanish. I have gotten lost many times driving in Dominican Republic and I have asked Dominicans for directions many times. "Cual es la direccion por Puerto Plata, porfavor? " Most people will answer in Spanish and that is where you will learn Spanish.
It is not that complicated driving in Dominican Republic, but you may get lost on occasion. First time driver in Dominican Republic, with limited Spanish, my guess is that driving your own car from Punta Cana to Puerto Plata would take at least 6 hours (probably more) (about three hours from Punta Cana to Santo Domingo and from Santo Domingo to Puerto Plata about three hours). Driving at night and driving during heavy rain, no fun in Dom. Rep.
Rental cars with extra insurance are about $220 (sub-compact) for 7 days.
Supposedly there are flights from Punta Cana to Puerto Plata but I have no information about them. If you get a flight from your hometown to Santo Domingo, that may be easier for you to visit Puerto Plata. Some very nice beaches in Punta Cana/Bavaro, some mongering opportunities in Punta Cana/Bavaro.
Kennilingus
10-17-09, 12:46
I live on the west coast of Canada and there are no convient flights tp Puerto Plata. There are flights to Punta Cuna. I am therefore thinking about staying at a resort in Punta Cuna for a day or two and then travelling to Puerta Plata to stay at BB's. Are there any local flights or decent buses? Is renting a car and driving a reasonable idea?
This will be my first visit ot the DR and I do not speak Spanish.WestJet resumes flying to Puerto Plata on November 1.
Access from the West coast, and excellent service!
If you decide to do it this way Caribe Tours and Metro are excellent, modern Bus lines and run about $10 US Santo Domingo to Puerto Plata one way. So add a few $$$ for Punta Cana ... you get the idea.
Never been to Punta Cana ... can't help you with that part.
I live on the west coast of Canada and there are no convient flights tp Puerto Plata. There are flights to Punta Cuna. I am therefore thinking about staying at a resort in Punta Cuna for a day or two and then travelling to Puerta Plata to stay at BB's. Are there any local flights or decent buses? Is renting a car and driving a reasonable idea?
This will be my first visit ot the DR and I do not speak Spanish.
Cahill,
Flying into Punta Cana may be cheaper, but it is difficult to be able to get around. If you could fly into the capital, Santo Domingo (SDQ) or Santiago (STI and even closer to Puerto Plata) you could easily catch a bus to Puerto Plata. Here is a link for a bus company that services those areas. http://www.caribetours.com.do
Since this is your first trip down, I would strongly advise you NOT to rent a car to drive from Punta Cana to PP. People here drive like idiots (this is an understatement) and the roads and signage leave much to be desired. Not speaking Spanish will add to the problem. Once you have been here and get a "lay of the land" you can decide if driving is for you. Believe me, driving here is not for the faint of heart.
There is an air service that advertises regular flights from PUJ to POP. Its web address is http://www.takeoffweb.com I cannot recommend them personnally as I have never used the service, but they look legit.
Good luck,
P
I live on the west coast of Canada and there are no convient flights tp Puerto Plata. There are flights to Punta Cuna. I am therefore thinking about staying at a resort in Punta Cuna for a day or two and then travelling to Puerta Plata to stay at BB's. Are there any local flights or decent buses? Is renting a car and driving a reasonable idea?
This will be my first visit ot the DR and I do not speak Spanish.
I echo what Ponderosa said. Puerto Plata and BBs are a hell of a long way from Punta Cana. If going by road you have to go via Santo Domingo. It will take you an entire day to make the trip and whether you drive or fly it will cost as lot I think thus negating savings on your flight. Puerto Plata is not that big of an airport but Santiago might have better connections. It is only about 60-90 min drive from BB so is definately an alternative to Puerto Plata which I have used many times.
BoricuaOnline
10-17-09, 17:14
I live on the west coast of Canada and there are no convient flights tp Puerto Plata. There are flights to Punta Cuna. I am therefore thinking about staying at a resort in Punta Cuna for a day or two and then travelling to Puerta Plata to stay at BB's. Are there any local flights or decent buses? Is renting a car and driving a reasonable idea?
This will be my first visit ot the DR and I do not speak Spanish.
A non stop drive from Punta Cana to Puerto Plata is near 8 hours. It took me 9 hours from Santiago tu Punta Cana/Bavaro last July, making stops.
Ok Guys,
I was all but done planning my DR trip and logically concluded that I will start off a BB's in Puerto Plata. Then I saw some more pictures of the women in Santa Domingo. Now I am thinking about, again starting in Santa Domingo. Especially after a buddy of mine at work suggested that. Problem with that idea is that he is more of a hunter while I like to shoot fish in a barrel. Is there a Black Beards equivalent in SD? I have the map for Santa Domingo, but left to my own devices I always screw up my vacations.
Ok Guys,
I was all but done planning my DR trip and logically concluded that I will start off a BB's in Puerto Plata. Then I saw some more pictures of the women in Santa Domingo. Now I am thinking about, again starting in Santa Domingo. Especially after a buddy of mine at work suggested that. Problem with that idea is that he is more of a hunter while I like to shoot fish in a barrel. Is there a Black Beards equivalent in SD? I have the map for Santa Domingo, but left to my own devices I always screw up my vacations.
It pretty much doesn't matter where you start. If you lack game go to BB. If you know how to smile and pickup someone, go to SD. It really doesn't matter. Just depends on how you want to approach it.
Which airport in Dominican Republic do you want to fly into? Santo Domingo airport has many flights. In Santo Domingo you can stay at the Riazor Hotel or Jaguar, about 45 dollars per night, chica friendly hotels, they are both close to the action. If you rent a car your options are enhanced.
Santo Domingo can be easy. Casa Australia gets good reviews. GBP the prices are 1000 pesos for an hour, in house. There are many bars and some discos in Santo Domingo where you can try to pick up non-pro or semi-pro chicas.
Blackbeards looks like fun. I have never been to Blackbeards, so I cannot give an opinion from personal experience. If your Spanish is not great and you are not very familiar with the Dominican Republic, it might be better to start off in Blackbeards and visit Sosua as well.
Santo Domingo is a city, no beach, hotels with good pools are more money. Some guys like to swim at the beach everyday or in a good pool while they are on vacation in the Caribbean. If you just want to monger and hang out drinking in bars, then Santo Domingo is good. There are numerous places in Santo Domingo to find chicas. Blackbeards will be more relaxing as it is in a location close to the beach. Santo Domingo is a busy city, with heavy traffic at times. Depends what you like. You could do both, the bus is about a three hour ride between Santo Domingo and Puerto Plata.
The brothels in Santo Domingo are easy, walk in, choose a chica and take her back to your hotel. Plenty of chicas on the streets as well at night. Jaguar and Riazor hotels are located within a 4 block radius of at least 4 places with chicas. Some of the brothels open at 12-1pm.
Ok Guys,
I was all but done planning my DR trip and logically concluded that I will start off a BB's in Puerto Plata. Then I saw some more pictures of the women in Santa Domingo. Now I am thinking about, again starting in Santa Domingo. Especially after a buddy of mine at work suggested that. Problem with that idea is that he is more of a hunter while I like to shoot fish in a barrel. Is there a Black Beards equivalent in SD? I have the map for Santa Domingo, but left to my own devices I always screw up my vacations.
Ok Guys,
I was all but done planning my DR trip and logically concluded that I will start off a BB's in Puerto Plata. Then I saw some more pictures of the women in Santa Domingo. Now I am thinking about, again starting in Santa Domingo. Especially after a buddy of mine at work suggested that. Problem with that idea is that he is more of a hunter while I like to shoot fish in a barrel. Is there a Black Beards equivalent in SD? I have the map for Santa Domingo, but left to my own devices I always screw up my vacations.
If this is your first time, shoot fish in a barrel, then go fishing next time, if you like. Especially if your Spanish is lacking.
You will find attractive women anywhere, but you have to start someplace. (So many women, so little time).
I think you will find that at BB you will spend more time enjoying yourself "eating fish" and much less time "fishing".
Dude, trust me on this one.
Charlie Horse
10-18-09, 02:58
Dude, trust me on this one.
sage advice
Which airport in Dominican Republic do you want to fly into? Santo Domingo airport has many flights. In Santo Domingo you can stay at the Riazor Hotel or Jaguar, about 45 dollars per night, chica friendly hotels, they are both close to the action. If you rent a car your options are enhanced.
Santo Domingo can be easy. Casa Australia gets good reviews. GBP the prices are 1000 pesos for an hour, in house. There are many bars and some discos in Santo Domingo where you can try to pick up non-pro or semi-pro chicas.
Blackbeards looks like fun. I have never been to Blackbeards, so I cannot give an opinion from personal experience. If your Spanish is not great and you are not very familiar with the Dominican Republic, it might be better to start off in Blackbeards and visit Sosua as well.
Santo Domingo is a city, no beach, hotels with good pools are more money. Some guys like to swim at the beach everyday or in a good pool while they are on vacation in the Caribbean. If you just want to monger and hang out drinking in bars, then Santo Domingo is good. There are numerous places in Santo Domingo to find chicas. Blackbeards will be more relaxing as it is in a location close to the beach. Santo Domingo is a busy city, with heavy traffic at times. Depends what you like. You could do both, the bus is about a three hour ride between Santo Domingo and Puerto Plata.
The brothels in Santo Domingo are easy, walk in, choose a chica and take her back to your hotel. Plenty of chicas on the streets as well at night. Jaguar and Riazor hotels are located within a 4 block radius of at least 4 places with chicas. Some of the brothels open at 12-1pm.
I want to fly into Santa Domingo because it seems like it is the easiest. After mulling over the advice that you guys have been giving me it seems like it would be prudent to fly into SD for a few nights, stay at Jaguar, go to Casa Australia and may be one other casa (GBP), and then head to BB for a week. Now I think, with this plan everything should work out.
Ok Guys,
I was all but done planning my DR trip and logically concluded that I will start off a BB's in Puerto Plata. Then I saw some more pictures of the women in Santa Domingo. Now I am thinking about, again starting in Santa Domingo. Especially after a buddy of mine at work suggested that. Problem with that idea is that he is more of a hunter while I like to shoot fish in a barrel. Is there a Black Beards equivalent in SD? I have the map for Santa Domingo, but left to my own devices I always screw up my vacations.
The pictures you have seen of women in Santo Domingo are probably typical of the women all over the island. Have you considered a BB and Sosua combo trip? Santo Domingo is nice and my favorite spot but I never suggest Santo Domingo as a place for a first time visit to the DR.
As previously mentioned Jaguar and Riazor are probably the best hotel choices in SD.
Any SD questions post them on the SD forum for better responses.
Whatever you decide enjoy your trip.
The pictures you have seen of women in Santo Domingo are probably typical of the women all over the island. Have you considered a BB and Sosua combo trip? Santo Domingo is nice and my favorite spot but I never suggest Santo Domingo as a place for a first time visit to the DR.
As previously mentioned Jaguar and Riazor are probably the best hotel choices in SD.
Any SD questions post them on the SD forum for better responses.
Whatever you decide enjoy your trip.You will have fun. Remember to lock up your valuables in the room. If you stay at Riazor or Jaguar, you will be in walking distance of Coppa discoteca in the Hotel Melia, this disco stays open late. Adjacent to Riazor is Manolos restaurant, open 24/7, it has outdoor and indoor seating, good prices and good food. If you go to Coppa discoteca alone (it is free to enter, presidente beers are 150 to 200 pesos) you can ask for a waiter named Osvaldo, good guy, give him a tip and you can ask him if there are any friendly chicas in Coppa. One night, I went there alone and he introduced me to a group of three chicas, probably semi pros, money was never discussed, I had my hands on one of them by the end of the night.
Taxi fares 150-200 pesos. You may want to visit bar 360 in zona colonial, Canadian guy owns the place, if you want to speak English with someone. Above bar 360 they have rooms if you want to do a chica from that bar or you could take her to your hotel. Some of the brothels close early, 12pm or 1am during the week because of the curfew. Casa Azul usually stays open late after the curfew. Street chicas near hotel riazor and on the malecon past the hilton hotel, some attractive ones, I was quoted 1000 and 1200 pesos by some street chicas. Casa Australia not open late. You have the map so you can visit a bunch of different places.
If you have an unlocked cell phone that you are not using, you can probably get a Dominican phone number assigned to it at the codetel office in the airport in Santo Domingo (second floor near the escalators), thereafter you would buy claro cards to add minutes. Orange is another large cell phone company that has a kiosk in the airport in Santo Domingo. On the first floor of the Santo Domingo airport near the bathrooms, they have about 5 ATM machines, where you can withdraw some cash.
You can buy a cheap cell phone in the Dominican Republic from 200 pesos and up. Can be useful to have to a local cell phone while mongering in Dom Rep.
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I'm brand new to ISG and this is my 1st post, hope it gets thru. I lived and worked in Santo Do, DR for 6 months about 8 years ago. When I was there La Jaragua Hotel (the jaguar?) was absolutely NOT chica friendly to the point of having security cock block you if you try to bring one in. Has it changed. The drive from Santo Do to BlackBeards will take you at least 5 hours depending where and when you get stuck in congested urban rush hour traffic, Santo Do or Santiago at the approx 1/2 way mark. Once outside the cities the highways are yours for the taking. You'll probably get seriously lost as well on your 1st trip out that way. The bus line "Caribe Tours" will get you around OK and their buses normally have AC. If you must rent a car see if you can find a chica who needs a ride to the Puerta Plata/Sosua area and have her help you find the way towards BB's. BB's is the way to go for the 1st timer. I was just there and I'm returning for New Years. Especially if you don't speak Spanish. Good luck.
The pictures you have seen of women in Santo Domingo are probably typical of the women all over the island. Have you considered a BB and Sosua combo trip? Santo Domingo is nice and my favorite spot but I never suggest Santo Domingo as a place for a first time visit to the DR.
As previously mentioned Jaguar and Riazor are probably the best hotel choices in SD.
Any SD questions post them on the SD forum for better responses.
Whatever you decide enjoy your trip.
Jaguar (like the cat) Aparta Hotel is much smaller then the Jaragua Hotel and Casino. Jaragua Hotel and Casino is not chica friendly, some girls do get in, or you can give some chica names when you check in and those chicas will be allowed in. Jaguar the smaller hotel on a side street up from Independencia is chica friendly.
They are constructing an overpass on Avenida Kennedy (also known as Autpista Duarte) so three lanes of traffic in each direction are closed where the construction is ongoing.
Before afternoon rush hour the traffic on Avenida Kennedy is not bad. From Carrefour Department Store on Autopista Duarte, you can get to Santiago in about two hours or less. One time I encountered really bad traffic on the highway to Santiago and that was because of a 4 truck accident. Otherwise that highway is usually clear sailing until you reach Santiago.
You have to drive locally through Santiago to reach the highway that goes to Puerto Plata. Driving time will always vary depending on traffic and weather.
I'm brand new to ISG and this is my 1st post, hope it gets thru. I lived and worked in Santo Do, DR for 6 months about 8 years ago. When I was there La Jaragua Hotel (the jaguar?) was absolutely NOT chica friendly to the point of having security cock block you if you try to bring one in. Has it changed. The drive from Santo Do to BlackBeards will take you at least 5 hours depending where and when you get stuck in congested urban rush hour traffic, Santo Do or Santiago at the approx 1/2 way mark. Once outside the cities the highways are yours for the taking. You'll probably get seriously lost as well on your 1st trip out that way. The bus line "Caribe Tours" will get you around OK and their buses normally have AC. If you must rent a car see if you can find a chica who needs a ride to the Puerta Plata/Sosua area and have her help you find the way towards BB's. BB's is the way to go for the 1st timer. I was just there and I'm returning for New Years. Especially if you don't speak Spanish. Good luck.
Oops, meant to say 12am, midnight. There is no daytime curfew, only night time curfew. Any bar or disco attached to a Casino is allowed to stay open late, 4am, 5am, 6am or whenever. Friday and Saturday nights all bars are allowed to stay open later.
Some of the brothels close early, 12pm or 1am during the week because of the curfew.
Since I was just there in Sep, I thought I'd share these two items:
1) Jenny's DOES accept credit cards, which came in handy for me.
2) Jenny's is NOT air conditioned. So after you make the relatively short walk from BB's to Jenny's to buy a meal or snacks, you will have to buy enough liquid to drink while you walk back. Maybe other months are better, but September is painfully hot and humid in the D. R. The worst humidity I've ever experienced!
Traveler04
10-20-09, 22:48
Xmand: Thanks for the info on Credit Cards at Jenny's. There are times I need a few things there and that would be a help.
I have been there many times and dif. months. It is always humid...when it rains its wet and humid!
You need to have water avail. when you go out walking.
Doggie style ..doggie = "perrito" (pair-ee-to) or try "por detras" (from behinid)
not sure about that.
por detras MAY have a heavy anal connotation, so unless that's what you want I wouldn't use this term.
in places like Cuba.. por ATRAS is specifically how they refer to anal and atras and detras are almost interchangeable.
try " a la quatro" (or something along those lines my specific memory now escapes me) but I know it's a Spanish reference to on all fours.
not sure about that.
por detras MAY have a heavy anal connotation, so unless that's what you want I wouldn't use this term.
in places like Cuba.. por ATRAS is specifically how they refer to anal and atras and detras are almost interchangeable.
try " a la quatro" (or something along those lines my specific memory now escapes me) but I know it's a Spanish reference to on all fours.
That's true.
"From behind" can be taken two ways.
So "perrito" is preferable.
For anal, "por/en el culo" (by/in the a$$) is pretty clear.
Most chicas I have encountered use:
en quatro = doggie
en el culo = in the redeye
PS: the majority of Dominicanas do not like in the ass unless there is a regalo involved!
Hi all,
I will be at BB /FoD for my third time in Dec and was thinking this time to rent a car while there. I was on google map and mapped out my route from the airport to BB but was wondering if anyone had a more detailed map of the area. Keep in mind i do not speak spanish and would mostly be driving in the day and only in the PP area (casino, PP, malecon etc). Any help is apprciated.
PM me or leave a message on the board.
Thanks,
Kozak
Most chicas I have encountered use:
en quatro = doggie
en el culo = in the redeye
PS: the majority of Dominicanas do not like in the ass unless there is a regalo involved!
I thought there was a regalo involved in all aspects of dealing with Dominicanas :)
and yeah "en cuatro" was what I was looking for.
Hi all,
I will be at BB /FoD for my third time in Dec and was thinking this time to rent a car while there. I was on google map and mapped out my route from the airport to BB but was wondering if anyone had a more detailed map of the area. Keep in mind i do not speak spanish and would mostly be driving in the day and only in the PP area (casino, PP, malecon etc). Any help is apprciated.
PM me or leave a message on the board.
Thanks,
Kozak
Try this webpage.
http://fieldofdreams.20m.com/photo6.html
Some maps you can click to enlarge.
(Were originally posted by Bill Lane for FOD.)
Map coverage of DR is generally poor.
Best course would be to buy a road map after you arrive.
The easiest way to explain the route to BB is to exit the airport, make a right and stay straight on the same road the whole way.
As you pass through the south side of PP, you'll find a yellow bordered traffic island; enter at 6 o'clock, circle around the right and exit at 12 o'clock.
You'll pass a Texaco gas station on the right, then a small bridge over a stream. Make a right immediately after crossing over the bridge.
You can figure it out from there.
good luck!
http://fieldofdreams.20m.com/photo6.html
Joeschmo1159
10-25-09, 00:27
Newbie planning a first trip to DR. Aftering reading a bunch of info, I'm probably going to go with Puerto Plata & Blackbeards. I considered FOD, but it seems BB is more of a sure thing? Are there any other such alternatives, wouldn't mind paying a bit more but want quality accomodations and quality providers.
The pictures give the impression that most of the chicas at BB are 'big girls'. I have no problem with curves, but prefer petite women (I. E. Height < 5'4"). Is this going to be an issue?
Thanks to all those who have shared some great info.
JS
Yanqui,
Thanks that is what I was looking at on google map and i remember the route you explained. but will write it out when I go.
Thanks for the info.
You'll be on the North Coast, take a ride to FOD and check it out, maybe 30 minutes from Blackbeards. If you find nothing you like in FOD, head over to Sosua which is about 35 minutes from FOD. Usually Sosua has all shapes and sizes of chicas. If you don't mind paying top dollar you can also visit Crystals near the Malecon in Puerto Plata, it is sort of like a strip club with a variety of women.
Newbie planning a first trip to DR. Aftering reading a bunch of info, I'm probably going to go with Puerto Plata & Blackbeards. I considered FOD, but it seems BB is more of a sure thing? Are there any other such alternatives, wouldn't mind paying a bit more but want quality accomodations and quality providers.
The pictures give the impression that most of the chicas at BB are 'big girls'. I have no problem with curves, but prefer petite women (I. E. Height < 5'4"). Is this going to be an issue?
Thanks to all those who have shared some great info.
JS
Newbie planning a first trip to DR. Aftering reading a bunch of info, I'm probably going to go with Puerto Plata & Blackbeards. I considered FOD, but it seems BB is more of a sure thing? Are there any other such alternatives, wouldn't mind paying a bit more but want quality accomodations and quality providers.
The pictures give the impression that most of the chicas at BB are 'big girls'. I have no problem with curves, but prefer petite women (I. E. Height < 5'4"). Is this going to be an issue?
Thanks to all those who have shared some great info.
JSIt will not be an issue, there are girls everywhere...remember not far from BB's is Cristals and El Bohen (sp?), you can find something you like. A bigger issue if your like me and dont speak Spanish is going to find girls that speak English.
Newbie planning a first trip to DR. Aftering reading a bunch of info, I'm probably going to go with Puerto Plata & Blackbeards. I considered FOD, but it seems BB is more of a sure thing? Are there any other such alternatives, wouldn't mind paying a bit more but want quality accomodations and quality providers.
The pictures give the impression that most of the chicas at BB are 'big girls'. I have no problem with curves, but prefer petite women (I. E. Height < 5'4"). Is this going to be an issue?
Thanks to all those who have shared some great info.
JS
You won't have a problem; there are plenty of petite and slim girls. If by 'big' you mean tall, there some petite cuties. Joanna is a little gem. Fair-skinned, full DR bottom and European features. Can't be over 5'1. Simply ask Rosalba the mamasan, and she will recommend or call some for you. Olga is a veteran. Small. very dark and tries hard to please.
If 'big' means 'heavy'. thre is only one still around, Paola. She's a good girl, aims to please and is a real pro in that respect. If you like BBWs she is something of a 'sexual athlete' in my opinion. BBWs are not my thing, but I gave her a try a couple ol years agos and I felt like I had just run 5 miles.
FOD also has quality accommodations, but don't emphasize chicas like BB.
There are a few girls that hang around the pool area, but the atmosphere is much more laid back and quiet, if BB get to be a little much for you. A better place to spend time with a selected girl without a hundred eyes following you.
These two are the best options in POP. If you want to pay 4 times more for the same thing and brag about how much you spent, there are a few others that try to market themselves as 'exclusive' (wildly overpriced).
Joeschmo1159
10-25-09, 23:05
Really appreciate the response guys.
BBW is definitely not something i'm looking for, so that's good. I think I would probably prefer the ambiance at FOD over BB, but was concerned about the lack of choice. Especially since my language skills are almost zero.
What are my options if i don't quite like the choices available at FOD? any good places near-by?
You won't have a problem; there are plenty of petite and slim girls. If by 'big' you mean tall, there some petite cuties. Joanna is a little gem. Fair-skinned, full DR bottom and European features. Can't be over 5'1. Simply ask Rosalba the mamasan, and she will recommend or call some for you. Olga is a veteran. Small. very dark and tries hard to please.
If 'big' means 'heavy'. thre is only one still around, Paola. She's a good girl, aims to please and is a real pro in that respect. If you like BBWs she is something of a 'sexual athlete' in my opinion. BBWs are not my thing, but I gave her a try a couple ol years agos and I felt like I had just run 5 miles.
FOD also has quality accommodations, but don't emphasize chicas like BB.
There are a few girls that hang around the pool area, but the atmosphere is much more laid back and quiet, if BB get to be a little much for you. A better place to spend time with a selected girl without a hundred eyes following you.
These two are the best options in POP. If you want to pay 4 times more for the same thing and brag about how much you spent, there are a few others that try to market themselves as 'exclusive' (wildly overpriced).
You won't have a problem; there are plenty of petite and slim girls. If by 'big' you mean tall, there some petite cuties. Joanna is a little gem. Fair-skinned, full DR bottom and European features. Can't be over 5'1. Simply ask Rosalba the mamasan, and she will recommend or call some for you. Olga is a veteran. Small. very dark and tries hard to please.
If 'big' means 'heavy'. thre is only one still around, Paola. She's a good girl, aims to please and is a real pro in that respect. If you like BBWs she is something of a 'sexual athlete' in my opinion. BBWs are not my thing, but I gave her a try a couple ol years agos and I felt like I had just run 5 miles.
FOD also has quality accommodations, but don't emphasize chicas like BB.
There are a few girls that hang around the pool area, but the atmosphere is much more laid back and quiet, if BB get to be a little much for you. A better place to spend time with a selected girl without a hundred eyes following you.
These two are the best options in POP. If you want to pay 4 times more for the same thing and brag about how much you spent, there are a few others that try to market themselves as 'exclusive' (wildly overpriced).These pics are pretty representative about what you can expect in the POP/Sosua area. All of these pics were taken by me on my trip to BB's last May.
I didn't post this before because really wasn't important but I saw the pic of the law student and recognized her off the bat! I was hooked up with her by Noemi and old timer from John's Palace last time I was in Sosua. She was really nice, other pics in the Photo Gallery. I did go to BB's this last trip wanting to see the Bikini contest however with a mixture of booze, poontang, and good food I lost track of the days and ended up there on a Sunday instead of Saturday. Still the place is nice and enjoyed lunch there. A word of caution. Since I was staying in Sosua the cab going cost me 1k Dp but coming back the guy outside quoted me 1200. I thought that was reasonable so I hopped in. He drove around the block and said another guy can take me since he is not in line to go. I asked in my broken spanish if it was the same price quoted before in front of the next driver and he said yes. The whole drive the guy said not a word. I asked him to drop me off in front of Playero Spmkt. I handed himm 1500 and asked for change. He said he had none. No problem! I went in and got change. When I handed it to him he said "Whats this?" I said really loud "Your cab fare, is there a problem!" He then said it was 1800 Dp and I began to shout at him and told him to take me back since I had nothing else to do and speak to driver No 1. He just turned and walked away. Don't take crap from these guys brothers cause they think your a foriegner they can con you! On another note I did finish my shopping, fresh condoms, fruit, and bubble bath!
Be safe!
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot this pic. This is a photo of "shift change" at BB's. Day shift strolls in around 1100 and the night shift struts in at 1800 as the attached pic shows. I like watching the day shift swish into work while I'm eating my late breakfast. They have to walk right past you. Great way to start off the day!
Hey Sabor. I'm glad you enjoyed her too. I speak good Spanish and talked with her for a while. She seemed like a decent kid to me also. I suppose if I was living down there she would qualify as a fairly respectable, not embarrassed to be seen out with by the tourist haters, girlfriend type material I suppose. If you know what I mean. Sex was average though but it could have been partly my fault as I had banged out 7 before her in my first 2 days down there. I don't normally do all nighters, I like my sleep, so I kick them out. I told her she could get a good nights sleep with me and take a hot shower in the AM cause it was getting late as a favor to her. I wasn't going to pay the $80.00 for TLN with her with no sex in the AM. I didn't think I'd be up for an AM session. I was wrong, she got me going again thus earning another $40 bucks.
Manizales911
10-26-09, 23:49
Really appreciate the response guys.
BBW is definitely not something i'm looking for, so that's good. I think I would probably prefer the ambiance at FOD over BB, but was concerned about the lack of choice. Especially since my language skills are almost zero.
What are my options if i don't quite like the choices available at FOD? any good places near-by?If you don't speak spanish and don't know your way around either Sosua or PP I strongly suggest you don't stay at FOD. I have stayed there several times and like it but I have plenty of #'s of girls I can call and usually have to due to the lack of girls at FOD. I would stay at BB's if I were you,it will be fun.
Really appreciate the response guys.
BBW is definitely not something i'm looking for, so that's good. I think I would probably prefer the ambiance at FOD over BB, but was concerned about the lack of choice. Especially since my language skills are almost zero.
What are my options if i don't quite like the choices available at FOD? any good places near-by?
There are maybe 8 chicas at any one time.
I highly recommend Wendy. Great legs and bottom and will wear you out in the sack. Josie is a sweetie. You can bring a girl from BB if you pay the "bar fine" to to take her out (800 pesos?). Crystal's in POP near the Malecon has nice girls but expensive expect 140 bucks to take out. (that's for girl and fee to take out).
FOD is much more laid back. I'd go there for quiet time with a selected girl.
You have to favor BB just for the selection.
Trainerforhire
10-27-09, 06:36
I was asked to post a pic of Wendy at FOD.
(One more to follow).Yanqui69,
Could you post front picture of Wendy or email me a few. I'll be at BB in Jan 2010. And what I see of her ass. I want to see what the front looks like. That's the kind of butt and legs I love and would love to hit.
Trainer4hire
Trainerforhire
10-27-09, 07:40
Thank you everyone for the good info on BBs. I was going to go to Oxygen but they are full, then I was contemplating Club Alexis or DR Nights. Until I found this board. I think going for a non AI may be better, and BBs seems to be the recommended place for Noobs.
Just some questions:
What is the avg. Price per encounter with a chica, and length of time? (at BBs)
If I am planning to only stay at BBs, how much $ for food and drinks should I budget for myself, per day?
Lastly, whats the best way/rate to get to BBs from POP?
I plan to stay there Sept 2nd-4th so if anyone else is going to be there, hit me up.
Thank you guys in advance.I just want to know if you have Wendy's number and if she still works at FOD. I'll be in PP Jan 2010. And I seen the picture of her legs and butt. That the kind of ass I want to hit for a few days. Do you have any pictures of her front. Is she pretty, ok, or gorgoues. Let me know something.
Trainer4hire
Manizales911
10-27-09, 14:32
There are maybe 8 chicas at any one time.
I highly recommend Wendy. Great legs and bottom and will wear you out in the sack. Josie is a sweetie. You can bring a girl from BB if you pay the "bar fine" to to take her out (800 pesos?). Crystal's in POP near the Malecon has nice girls but expensive expect 140 bucks to take out. (that's for girl and fee to take out).
FOD is much more laid back. I'd go there for quiet time with a selected girl.
You have to favor BB just for the selection.Yanqui,
The chicas must have known you were coming. LOL. I have been to FOD several times and I never saw eight chicas there,always less than that. Then again maybe they knew I was coming,WTF! LOL
Yanqui,
The chicas must have known you were coming. LOL. I have been to FOD several times and I never saw eight chicas there,always less than that. Then again maybe they knew I was coming,WTF! LOL
Hmmm, Manizales, maybe you scared em.
I recall:
Wendy,
Jackie, Wendy's sister,
Josie, cutie, friendly (one guy calls her "sporty spice")
Elizabeth, (big-bottomed one called "Baby," fave of JP Yank
Santa
Perla (check my report comparing FOD-BB)
Morena, since quit the life to go home to SD
and 3-4 others I didn't recognize
(well, maybe more like 5-6 most of the time)
usually 3-4 sleeping around the pool, and 3-4 hanging around the internet stations at the bar
I just want to know if you have Wendy's number and if she still works at FOD. I'll be in PP Jan 2010. And I seen the picture of her legs and butt. That the kind of ass I want to hit for a few days. Do you have any pictures of her front. Is she pretty, ok, or gorgoues. Let me know something.
Trainer4hire
(Hope these darned things attach).
Used to live in Costambar.
Believe I have her number, if not on site,
ask the girls and I'm sure someone will call her.
(Hope these darned things attach).
Used to live in Costambar.
Believe I have her number, if not on site,
ask the girls and I'm sure someone will call her.
One more try.
Wendy -front
One more try.
Wendy -front
And again from the rear.
(not much up top, but nice face and outstanding butt and legs)
I just want to know if you have Wendy's number and if she still works at FOD. I'll be in PP Jan 2010. And I seen the picture of her legs and butt. That the kind of ass I want to hit for a few days. Do you have any pictures of her front. Is she pretty, ok, or gorgoues. Let me know something.
Trainer4hire
Dude, your PM is turned off and they don't permit publicizing phone numbers.
Manizales911
10-28-09, 01:39
Hmmm, Manizales, maybe you scared em.
I recall:
Wendy,
Jackie, Wendy's sister,
Josie, cutie, friendly (one guy calls her "sporty spice")
Elizabeth, (big-bottomed one called "Baby," fave of JP Yank
Santa
Perla (check my report comparing FOD-BB)
Morena, since quit the life to go home to SD
and 3-4 others I didn't recognize
(well, maybe more like 5-6 most of the time)
usually 3-4 sleeping around the pool, and 3-4 hanging around the internet stations at the barI'll pay more attention to the head count next time I go to FOD.
I'm heading back to the DR on Nov.16th for a week before continuing on to Colombia but I was thinking of going to Santo Domingo this time around as I've never been there before.
Trainerforhire
10-28-09, 02:14
I would like to know if the chicas at BB doing BBBJ? Yes or no
Please reply back ASAP, I'll be there end of Jan 2010.
Thanks
It's been several years since I visited BB but BBBJ was the standard, not the exception.
I would like to know if the chicas at BB doing BBBJ? Yes or no
Please reply back ASAP, I'll be there end of Jan 2010.
Thanks
It's been several years since I visited BB but BBBJ was the standard, not the exception.
The last couple times down I have experienced much more CBJ vs. BBBJ. I like you was there at a time that BBBJ was the norm and not the exception.
I like BBBJ but don't make it a deal breaker. If it is important to you, just bring it up before sealling the deal. "Sucky Sucky sin condom" should get your point across to them.
The last couple times down I have experienced much more CBJ vs. BBBJ. I like you was there at a time that BBBJ was the norm and not the exception.
I like BBBJ but don't make it a deal breaker. If it is important to you, just bring it up before sealling the deal. "Sucky Sucky sin condom" should get your point across to them.I had the same experience last time I was at BB's CBJ was the norm. Most of the girls would not do BBBJ. Of course I rarely ask before hand, as it is not a deal breaker for me either.
DVEight
The last couple times down I have experienced much more CBJ vs. BBBJ. I like you was there at a time that BBBJ was the norm and not the exception.
I like BBBJ but don't make it a deal breaker. If it is important to you, just bring it up before sealling the deal. "Sucky Sucky sin condom" should get your point across to them.
As Ponderosa mentioned, ask fiirst. Most will negotiate.
BBBJ was the standard and for most still is, but the new ones in particular are more aware of the health risks.
Try:
"chupada sin condon" or
"mamada sin condon"
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forum. I am planning at trip to Dominican Republic for one of the adult all inclusive sex resorts. We are all about 28 yrs old. We have find a couple of resorts but are having troubles which to choose. So far we have found:
Vikings
Oxygen
DR Nights
MyWildVacation
Charlies Angels
Has anyone been to any of those? Any recommendations? I've read alot about Vikings, but it was kinda pricey at like $5000 for 4 nights. We are leaning towards MyWildVacation, its $2500 for 4 nights. DR Nights was next on our list. Its soo tough to figure out, since non of us have gone to Dominican Republic before. How do things exactly work at the various resorts? Are the girls with you 24/7? Thats what is implied on the mywildvacation, vikings, and DR Nights websites. Oxygen I don't think so, and I remembered reading something about tokens or coupons that you use?
Anyways any help would be greatly appreciatted.
Thanks guys!
Oh wow, I have read a lot about Blackbeards. Might be worth it rather than the all inclusive adult resorts. Any of you have been to both? Recommend more than the other? Whats the age range at Blackbeard for both men and women?
Oh wow, I have read a lot about Blackbeards. Might be worth it rather than the all inclusive adult resorts. Any of you have been to both? Recommend more than the other? Whats the age range at Blackbeard for both men and women?
Your starting out on the right path if the above statement indicates you started reading the forums.
Check out the Reports of Distinction thread and I know there are reports about O2, Vikings and maybe one other high end AI (All Inclusive). You might have to dig a bit to get to the right info. There are numerous reports in there about Blackbeards.
Any specific questions after your research, let us know.
Oh wow, I have read a lot about Blackbeards. Might be worth it rather than the all inclusive adult resorts. Any of you have been to both? Recommend more than the other? Whats the age range at Blackbeard for both men and women?
I think you will find the consensus on this site is that you will pay 4-5 times more at one of the all-inclusives that you listed for essentially the same thing.
There is no status in wildly overpaying.
Age groups:
Men: 20's to retirees (why would you really care?)
Girls: legal age to late 20's
Manizales911
10-31-09, 02:14
Oh wow, I have read a lot about Blackbeards. Might be worth it rather than the all inclusive adult resorts. Any of you have been to both? Recommend more than the other? Whats the age range at Blackbeard for both men and women?I have been to Oxygen,Vikings,the Xotic Beach House and Total Satisfaction. If someone gave me a free trip to any one of these or a trip to BB's I would take the trip to BB's over any of them except The Beach House but that is also a little unfair as the Beach House is in Colombia and anybody who's been to Colombia knows why and also because I dropped about $15k USD on that trip and partied like a fucking rock star. I also met my novia of three years,the mother of my daughter on that trip.
Sure the ladies generally (and I stress generally) at the AI's are better looking and generally the facilities (again I stress generally) are nicer and the food is usually very good but the girls at BB's,FOD,Sosua,etc.,etc., have better attitudes,are better in la cama and the party atmosphere is better unless you don't know how to "get the party started". I haven't been to BB's in a while but I still love the place,I just have been busy expanding my horizons in the DR and elsewhere but personally I like going there because I can walk into the bar,hand the bartender a few bucks and tell her to pass out six or eight Grande Presidente's to the chicas and get a hell of a party going in there and have a blast. Sure,the girls aren't all "10"'s in looks but they know how to have a good time both in and out of bed. After all,you're on vacation let the fuck loose.
All my trips to the AI's were before I knew better and I have absolutely no use for them anymore and it has nothing to do with money but I would be remiss if I didn't bring up the fact that for what it cost to go to these places I could go to BB's or Sosua a bunch of times and in my opinion have a better time also.
George,
PLEASE stay away from My Wild Vacation. I'm begging you! How do I know you ask? I tried to visit MWV when he was located on Margarita Island, VZ back in the winter 2007. I paid my $400 deposit by check 6 months in advance. 3 days before my flight the "owner" responded to my email with, "You are all set." I wasn't. When I arrived he called my drivers cell to tell me that he had to shut down, yadda yadda, due to a Chavez crackdown on places like his. So they put me up at a family friendly place (kids were there) and brought me to see a limeup of 5 semi-decent beach *****s. I knew right away I was getting scammed. Now I'm supposed to sneak these skanks in and out of this place. Oh, forget the food. I'm told to eat on the economy and save my receipts for reimbursement after my "stay". Hahahaha.
Fortunately I speak very good Spanish and have extensive familiarity with Latin culture. I ended up stealing 2 of his *****s that he stranded down there and just popped smoke and found another place nearby. The MWV owner even sent this English speaking young, Dutch douchebag to try and recover the remaining $2, 100 for my "stay". I made it clear that if he wanted my $$ he would have to kill me for it and sent him on his way. Came back home with tons of unspent cash and paid my unemployed contractor friend most of it under the table for all the work he did in my house, taking care of my dog, etc. Managed a couple 3sums, one solo session, almost fucked a MILF (non p4p) and finally had a brief GFE with another MILF (part-time ***** really).
Bottom line: MWV in the DR is a clip joint. Some of the other places you list are on again off again operations working out of rented quarters. All of them regardless are WAY too expensive, except for one operator, BlackBeards. I was there for 3 days last May and will be there again for a week later this year. American owned, real value for your hard earned coin, no regimentation, good food/booze at fair price, and the owner actually OWNS his property. Are you reading this? He owns it, OK. For $2, 500 you can, in a weeks time, eat, drink, fuck, party, do a few tours, INCLUDING your flight cost at BB's. Try this place out first as an experiment. Hey, you can even troll for Beach Girls and bring them back into BB's if you want. No problem.
Good luck man and keep us posted.
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forum. I am planning at trip to Dominican Republic for one of the adult all inclusive sex resorts. We are all about 28 yrs old. We have find a couple of resorts but are having troubles which to choose. So far we have found:
Vikings
Oxygen
DR Nights
MyWildVacation
Charlies Angels
Has anyone been to any of those? Any recommendations? I've read alot about Vikings, but it was kinda pricey at like $5000 for 4 nights. We are leaning towards MyWildVacation, its $2500 for 4 nights. DR Nights was next on our list. Its soo tough to figure out, since non of us have gone to Dominican Republic before. How do things exactly work at the various resorts? Are the girls with you 24/7? Thats what is implied on the mywildvacation, vikings, and DR Nights websites. Oxygen I don't think so, and I remembered reading something about tokens or coupons that you use?
Anyways any help would be greatly appreciatted.
Thanks guys!
...unless you don't know how to "get the party started"....I like going there because I can walk into the bar, hand the bartender a few bucks and tell her to pass out six or eight Grande Presidente's to the chicas and get a hell of a party going in there and have a blast...That's what it's all about!
-Helpmann :)
If anyone's at BB this weekend, got anything to report?
Names? Reviews?
How was Halloween?
I'm going down for a visit shortly...
Thanks for all the input guys. Sounds like blackbeards is the place to try. How many chicks are usually present? Whats the procedure. Like I just negociate with them? What are the prices? Whats around blackbeards that is fun to do? Any clubs around? I read it somewhat secluded. Me and my friends would definitly want party it up, and just wanna make sure we arent in the middle of nowhere. We want to come to bang hot chicks. But same time, wanna enjoy clubs, local markets, local resturants and such. I have to run off, but I will be back to do some more research and let you know I have anymore questions.
Thanks agian guys.
Thanks for all the input guys. Sounds like blackbeards is the place to try. How many chicks are usually present? Whats the procedure. Like I just negociate with them? What are the prices? Whats around blackbeards that is fun to do? Any clubs around? I read it somewhat secluded. Me and my friends would definitly want party it up, and just wanna make sure we arent in the middle of nowhere. We want to come to bang hot chicks. But same time, wanna enjoy clubs, local markets, local resturants and such. I have to run off, but I will be back to do some more research and let you know I have anymore questions.
Thanks agian guys.George,
Go to his website and sign up for his newsletter, published every 2 weeks. Make sure it goes to a secure computer. The price as of last May is a firm $40.00 for ST and $80.00 for "toda la noche" or TLN meaning all night in Spanish. They are not allowed to upsell you and pester you for tips. If a chica gives exceptional service then maybe a $5 or $10 tip is fine. We had a girl fired on our last trip because she turned into a royal ***** and tried to ripoff my VERY experienced monger friend (4 trips to Thailand). She was gone the moment I brought it up to John, the owner. Gone!
BlackBeards is located in a somewhat mixed residential gated community about 10 minutes from Puerta Plata City and 30 from the airport (POP). There are plenty of things to do during the day in the area. You will not be bored and most likely will not see the need to leave the BB's compound at night. What for? Relax, mingle with the girls, eat, drink, party, and have a good time. Save your days for some excursions. When I was there last there were always at least 15-20 girls around. It wasn't that busy. I'll be there for New Years so it will most likely be busier. See ya!
I would like to know if the chicas at BB doing BBBJ? Yes or no
Please reply back ASAP, I'll be there end of Jan 2010.
ThanksI was there in July and only one did bbbj the rest were covered.
I am thinking about trying Blackbeards in mid January. I have been to all-inclusive resorts (DR Nights, and TAV). In those places the girl or girls are with you 24 hours a day. At Blackbeards is there an option to pick a girl you like and keep her for day and night until you want to switch girls if you want to switch. At those other resorts you kept the girl the whole time you were there unless you wanted to change girls or have a threesome, in either case you always had a girl with you no matter what you did or where you went. I know that I would have to pay for her food and drinks and any thing else we do together outside the resort during the entire stay, but I was wondering if that option was available. Also I don't speak Spanish very well, trying to learn a little, at those other places it was no problem, the girls spoke a little English, and I had a pocket translator to help me out with the rest. Would that be a problem at Blackbeards. Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks
I am thinking about trying Blackbeards in mid January. I have been to all-inclusive resorts (DR Nights, and TAV). In those places the girl or girls are with you 24 hours a day. At Blackbeards is there an option to pick a girl you like and keep her for day and night until you want to switch girls if you want to switch. At those other resorts you kept the girl the whole time you were there unless you wanted to change girls or have a threesome, in either case you always had a girl with you no matter what you did or where you went. I know that I would have to pay for her food and drinks and any thing else we do together outside the resort during the entire stay, but I was wondering if that option was available. Also I don't speak Spanish very well, trying to learn a little, at those other places it was no problem, the girls spoke a little English, and I had a pocket translator to help me out with the rest. Would that be a problem at Blackbeards. Let me know what you guys think.
ThanksHi Mark,
I almost feel like saying, "you're kidding, right? " No really, you can keep a chica for the day if you want to pay for that option. Just to give you an idea here is what I did in 3 days. I'll be there for a repeat later this year BTW.
Day 1: Was balls deep within less than 30 minutes after arrival. When our taxi pulled up I went right in and asked 9 girls to come outside and pose for a photo in front of the BB's sign with my 2 wingmen. Then I dropped off my shit, took a shit and shower, and banged "Antonia" in my room right after. The night shift swished into work so we all ate a GREAT meal right there and I ended up fucking this other chick later that night and sent her on her way. Hey, a guy's have to get some sleep.
Day 2: Stuck around, had two 3sums in one day, one in the early afternoon and another later that night. Enjoyed "Antonia" again for 3sum #2 after some time in the jacuzzi with my boys and their chicas.
Day 3: Pounded out a 21 y/o light skinned blond with braces. Then we left for Sosua for 2 days there.
You can switch out girls anytime you want with whatever is available or be a "grabber" and stay with just one if you feel like it. Its like shooting fish in a barrel. My trip last May there were only 2 chicas there who spoke excellent English. I speak good Spanish and didn't see the need to session with either of them. You can take a girl out for a trip if she wants to go with you. You can also bring in beach girls who don't work at BB's if you want to assuming you can find any you like. There is no regimentation at BB's, do whatever you want. Check out my photos posted a few pages back. Take care and be safe out there.
I am thinking about trying Blackbeards in mid January. I have been to all-inclusive resorts (DR Nights, and TAV). In those places the girl or girls are with you 24 hours a day. At Blackbeards is there an option to pick a girl you like and keep her for day and night until you want to switch girls if you want to switch. At those other resorts you kept the girl the whole time you were there unless you wanted to change girls or have a threesome, in either case you always had a girl with you no matter what you did or where you went. I know that I would have to pay for her food and drinks and any thing else we do together outside the resort during the entire stay, but I was wondering if that option was available. Also I don't speak Spanish very well, trying to learn a little, at those other places it was no problem, the girls spoke a little English, and I had a pocket translator to help me out with the rest. Would that be a problem at Blackbeards. Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks
No, language will not be a problem, in fact, use it as an opportunity to learn and practice it a bit.
Forget the all-inclusives, this is totally different.
The girls are available, and they work in two 8-10 hour "shifts", a day and evening shift. You simply choose whichever is available, and spend as much or as little time with her as you like. Have two at a time if you wish.
Max fee, minus tips, is 1500 pesos (about $42) for 1-2 hours.
If you wish to spend the night with a girl, twice that (3000 pesos) is max fee.
Discuss this with the mamasan on site to explain your wishes, translate, etc.
If you don't see one you want at the moment, tell her what you want (light, dark, slim, thick, andask her to call one in for you. (Allow some time for this.)
If the girl you want is occupied (or you are), make a date for later in the day or the next day.
Its a good idea to discuss what you want in advance with the girl, so there are no misunderstandings (special requests, more time, etc).
If you wish to spend the day with her, ask in advance and agree to a price.
(She may be foregoing other clients if you monopolize her time).
If you wish to "wife up" with a girl, her only with you for the time/days you wish, discuss and come to an agreed price.
There is usually a "mamsan" to assist you, translate, recommend girls for certain requests etc.
Trainerforhire
11-06-09, 22:49
Thanks Yanqui69, where does Wendy work. I see to reports about her. Working at BB and working as FOD. Can I take her to BB if she works at FOD. Is there an exit fee at FOD.
I read nearly all this forum and really nearly 80 % of activity is around Black beards in puerto plata. I wonder whether to go to the city not BB as if only street action is there perhaps better go sosua for street action.
I've never been en pp but is there any street activity.
Thanks
After doing a lot of research I will be going to Blackbeards for the first time in January. It cost about $3000 for the all inclusive places give or take a few dollars for a week, looking at the prices for Blackbeards it looks like I might be able to have a good time for half that price. Anyways thanks for the input.
I am thinking about trying Blackbeards in mid January. I have been to all-inclusive resorts (DR Nights, and TAV). In those places the girl or girls are with you 24 hours a day. At Blackbeards is there an option to pick a girl you like and keep her for day and night until you want to switch girls if you want to switch. At those other resorts you kept the girl the whole time you were there unless you wanted to change girls or have a threesome, in either case you always had a girl with you no matter what you did or where you went. I know that I would have to pay for her food and drinks and any thing else we do together outside the resort during the entire stay, but I was wondering if that option was available. Also I don't speak Spanish very well, trying to learn a little, at those other places it was no problem, the girls spoke a little English, and I had a pocket translator to help me out with the rest. Would that be a problem at Blackbeards. Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks
After meeting some frat bothers for two days at BB,went to fod for a change of pace solo.BB is a great enviornment for meeting people and girls.A few regulars plus some new ones thrown in.Negoitiate non condom bj before hand.Food is ok,girls deliever agreed upon sex.Fod was refreshing,this was my first time there.Only three other mongers were present.The long dirt road off the highway can be very missleading.As you approch you wonder what youve gotten yourself into.Then you drive behind this big wall and you enter paradise.The ambience of fod i found inticing.No crowds of mongers bragging about all the girls they bang.No girls here over playing their roles.The girls were all laid back as if they really wanted to be there.My boy did take out for 200pesos plus girls fee,also next day appointments can be made.Food at fod was ok,and the bar had affordable drinks.If you want a big crowd go to BB.If you want tranquility and a low key enviornment try FOD.
Traveler04
11-07-09, 14:41
Let me sum up the "Best Bang for the Buck" options on the North Coast.
Not in order of preference:
Option A: Blackbeards (BB's)
*Much has been written already but a great place for the novice and vet. that like one stop shopping. Set prices and you do not need to speak spanish.You can have a great time there and you never have to leave if you don't want to. On my first three trips there I never left and had a great time. Easy to stay on budget and still have a great experience. The Beach, store and some restaurants in easy walking distance are positives. Security is nice and gives you a safe place. You can bring in your own entertainment as along as they have an ID. I can not stress how important that is! No ID no entry.
Option B: Field of Dreams (FOD)
*Similar to BB's in structure and prices. Location is a bit isolated and you need to work a lot harder to find what you are looking for. You can't just roll out of bed in the AM and have 15 dates to choose from. Clean, safe and easy to budget. Closer to the Airport but nothing like a beach or stores etc. is as easy to get to as BB's. You can bring in you own entertainment but you do so at your own risk...meaning no one is checking ID's of your guests. If they do not have an ID that is a RED FLAG!!
Option C: Sosua
*Read the Sosua section as there is an amazing amount of information. Street action, bar action and much much more. You can find something for anyone's budget. Some spanish will help a lot in setting a price. Several Hotels, restaurants, beach and more. You do not have the security you have with BB's and FOD so it is important that you have some experience or are traveling with some people that have been there before.
In short there is something for everyone's taste and budget. Remember that spending more does not always get you more.
Good Luck.
Manizales911
11-07-09, 16:51
Let me sum up the "Best Bang for the Buck" options on the North Coast.
Not in order of preference:
Option A: Blackbeards (BB's)
*Much has been written already but a great place for the novice and vet. that like one stop shopping. Set prices and you do not need to speak spanish.You can have a great time there and you never have to leave if you don't want to. On my first three trips there I never left and had a great time. Easy to stay on budget and still have a great experience. The Beach, store and some restaurants in easy walking distance are positives. Security is nice and gives you a safe place. You can bring in your own entertainment as along as they have an ID. I can not stress how important that is! No ID no entry.
Option B: Field of Dreams (FOD)
*Similar to BB's in structure and prices. Location is a bit isolated and you need to work a lot harder to find what you are looking for. You can't just roll out of bed in the AM and have 15 dates to choose from. Clean, safe and easy to budget. Closer to the Airport but nothing like a beach or stores etc. is as easy to get to as BB's. You can bring in you own entertainment but you do so at your own risk...meaning no one is checking ID's of your guests. If they do not have an ID that is a RED FLAG!!
Option C: Sosua
*Read the Sosua section as there is an amazing amount of information. Street action, bar action and much much more. You can find something for anyone's budget. Some spanish will help a lot in setting a price. Several Hotels, restaurants, beach and more. You do not have the security you have with BB's and FOD so it is important that you have some experience or are traveling with some people that have been there before.
In short there is something for everyone's taste and budget. Remember that spending more does not always get you more.
Good Luck.Traveler,
I was at FOD in September and they checked and kept the I.D.'s of both girls I brought with me, one of which used to work there and was known to the staff. Shouldn't be an issue anyway because as you stated if a chica doesn't have an ID you should kick her to the curb as it is a potential problem waiting to happen.
Manizales911
11-07-09, 16:55
I read nearly all this forum and really nearly 80 % of activity is around Black beards in puerto plata. I wonder whether to go to the city not BB as if only street action is there perhaps better go sosua for street action.
I've never been en pp but is there any street activity.
ThanksThere is some street action but not a lot,there are several clubs but they are spread out. If you know a decent amount of spanish and have some mongering experience go to Sosua.
Kennilingus
11-07-09, 17:52
Option B: Field of Dreams (FOD) *Similar to BB's in structure and prices. Location is a bit isolated and you need to work a lot harder to find what you are looking for. You can't just roll out of bed in the AM and have 15 dates to choose from. Clean, safe and easy to budget. Closer to the Airport but nothing like a beach or stores etc. Is as easy to get to as BB's. You can bring in you own entertainment but you do so at your own risk. Meaning no one is checking ID's of your guests. If they do not have an ID that is a RED FLAG! Actually I just got back from 14 days at FOD. They do check ID's, the chicas cannot get their cedula back without the client giving the nod!
Most days there were 10. 18 chicas on site. The Atmosphere, service, food were all EXCELLENT!
Only time FOD is slow for talent is the evening. If there are no clients hanging out at the hotel the chicas head for home about 8 pm
I find the location for FOD to be excellent compared to BB's, I had a rental car. Located between Sousa and POP. And only a short drive to BB's to check out the talent there.
I've done both BB's and FOD. Twice each. And for my vacation. FOD wins my future business hands down!
In 14 days in FOD. My bar and food tab was accurate for every day. In my past BB's experinces. The chicas were allowed to to charge stuff to my bill without my consent. That wasn't my experience at FOD!
Charles Pooter
11-07-09, 17:57
I live in Puerto Plata. The only street hookers I have seen are skanks and trannies. Of course you might get lucky and pick up a nice chica, especially on the Malecon in the daytime, but if you are on holiday you could waste a lot of time looking.
The only sure things are to be found in the clubs and bars, ranging from Dominican bars with 300 salidas and 800 ST to Cristal and El Bohen at the top of the scale.
Those of us living in Puerto Plata prefer it because chicas are cheaper and generally with fewer problems than those from Sosúa but it takes time to network and build up your little black book. For example, while writing this post I have been interrupted twice to ...
1) ... answer a phonecall from the son of my former novia saying he is bringing round a fresh 18-year-old, one of his classmates, to my condo tonight. If I keep her for the night she will get 1000 pesos and he will get 250 "introduction fee".
2) ... talk at the condo outer gate to a tiguere who wanted to bike me to view two "young and flaca" haitianas somewhere in a neighbouring barrio. Similar charges would apply if I like them.
This stuff goes on all the time so I don't have time or need to visit Sosúa. But if I were just on two weeks holiday here I would never get to meet these people.
I read nearly all this forum and really nearly 80 % of activity is around Black beards in puerto plata. I wonder whether to go to the city not BB as if only street action is there perhaps better go sosua for street action.
I've never been en pp but is there any street activity.
Thanks
I was trying to stay at bb but there booked. Does anyone have info on FOD? Do they have a website. Does anyone have there number. If anyone can help me I would be greatful. If anyone has any tips about FOD I would be greatful.
Thank you.
I live in Puerto Plata. The only street hookers I have seen are skanks and trannies. Of course you might get lucky and pick up a nice chica, especially on the Malecon in the daytime, but if you are on holiday you could waste a lot of time looking.
The only sure things are to be found in the clubs and bars, ranging from Dominican bars with 300 salidas and 800 ST to Cristal and El Bohen at the top of the scale.
Those of us living in Puerto Plata prefer it because chicas are cheaper and generally with fewer problems than those from Sosúa but it takes time to network and build up your little black book. For example, while writing this post I have been interrupted twice to ...
1) ... answer a phonecall from the son of my former novia saying he is bringing round a fresh 18-year-old, one of his classmates, to my condo tonight. If I keep her for the night she will get 1000 pesos and he will get 250 "introduction fee".
2) ... talk at the condo outer gate to a tiguere who wanted to bike me to view two "young and flaca" haitianas somewhere in a neighbouring barrio. Similar charges would apply if I like them.
This stuff goes on all the time so I don't have time or need to visit Sosúa. But if I were just on two weeks holiday here I would never get to meet these people.
The street putas outside of Boehm are some of the scariest looking I have ever seen.
Professor 1
11-08-09, 07:07
After doing a lot of research I will be going to Blackbeards for the first time in January. It cost about $3000 for the all inclusive places give or take a few dollars for a week, looking at the prices for Blackbeards it looks like I might be able to have a good time for half that price. Anyways thanks for the input.
You should be able to have a good time at BBs for far less than US$1,500.
Hey Charle Pooter,
Since you live in PP can you give me exactly what a tiguere is from a local? If your called a tiguere in the DR is that a positive comment or is it considered derogatory comment?
Thanks
I live in Puerto Plata. The only street hookers I have seen are skanks and trannies. Of course you might get lucky and pick up a nice chica, especially on the Malecon in the daytime, but if you are on holiday you could waste a lot of time looking.
The only sure things are to be found in the clubs and bars, ranging from Dominican bars with 300 salidas and 800 ST to Cristal and El Bohen at the top of the scale.
Those of us living in Puerto Plata prefer it because chicas are cheaper and generally with fewer problems than those from Sosúa but it takes time to network and build up your little black book. For example, while writing this post I have been interrupted twice to ...
1) ... answer a phonecall from the son of my former novia saying he is bringing round a fresh 18-year-old, one of his classmates, to my condo tonight. If I keep her for the night she will get 1000 pesos and he will get 250 "introduction fee".
2) ... talk at the condo outer gate to a tiguere who wanted to bike me to view two "young and flaca" haitianas somewhere in a neighbouring barrio. Similar charges would apply if I like them.
This stuff goes on all the time so I don't have time or need to visit Sosúa. But if I were just on two weeks holiday here I would never get to meet these people.
Greetings! I have just returned frm Pp, very nice! I had the option to visit Brazil not to long ago and compared the too! Hands down Dr! Closer and the women are plump. Going to cristal paying.50 wasn't my thing. Sum paid 100+ nah. I found several places just like it. But really didn't go that route. Just me chicas in the country side and places near that big sqaure. I only stay for 5 days wasn't enough. Cristals: 7. Bahamien 5. Just rating. This is your solo traveller saying if I can do it you can do it! Don't donate more than .50
Charles Pooter
11-08-09, 23:38
Hey Charle Pooter,
Since you live in PP can you give me exactly what a tiguere is from a local? If your called a tiguere in the DR is that a positive comment or is it considered derogatory comment?
Thanks
I haven't been here long and am no expert in Dominican Spanish but I understand a tiguere to be someone who is streetwise, lives off his wits, might be a small-time criminal but by no means necessarily so, unlikely to have any regular job and typically hangs around on the streets looking for a quick peso or to pick up women. Is likely to be a good dancer, can be charming but may be violent if offended or threatened. Usually 18 to 40ish.
If you don't want to be considered to be someone like that you would consider it a mild insult. However it is sometimes used as compliment when locals are trying to bullshit gringos that they are great lovers or dancers or have street-smarts. Often you will hear adults call precocious little boys tigueres as a kind of compliment. Also the young lad I mentioned in the same post would probably want to be considered a tiguere as he is desperate to be considered "one of the gang" when he hangs with older guys.
What I don't know is whether this word is used in other Latin countries such as Puerto Rico. I think it is just Dominican but I am not sure.
Excuse me Professor but for how much far under 1,500 are you talking.
I would love to know this for one week.
I'm sorry but I don't overpay but I don't nickel and dime them to death either.
Marc Anthony
11-09-09, 03:51
I live in Puerto Plata. The only street hookers I have seen are skanks and trannies. Of course you might get lucky and pick up a nice chica, especially on the Malecon in the daytime, but if you are on holiday you could waste a lot of time looking.
The only sure things are to be found in the clubs and bars, ranging from Dominican bars with 300 salidas and 800 ST to Cristal and El Bohen at the top of the scale.
Those of us living in Puerto Plata prefer it because chicas are cheaper and generally with fewer problems than those from Sosúa but it takes time to network and build up your little black book. For example, while writing this post I have been interrupted twice to ...
1) ... answer a phonecall from the son of my former novia saying he is bringing round a fresh 18-year-old, one of his classmates, to my condo tonight. If I keep her for the night she will get 1000 pesos and he will get 250 "introduction fee".
2) ... talk at the condo outer gate to a tiguere who wanted to bike me to view two "young and flaca" haitianas somewhere in a neighbouring barrio. Similar charges would apply if I like them.
This stuff goes on all the time so I don't have time or need to visit Sosúa. But if I were just on two weeks holiday here I would never get to meet these people.
Thanks for posting an expat POV. There's a big difference in what's possible and it helps give us wannabes some perspective.
I haven't been here long and am no expert in Dominican Spanish but I understand a tiguere to be someone who is streetwise, lives off his wits, might be a small-time criminal but by no means necessarily so, unlikely to have any regular job and typically hangs around on the streets looking for a quick peso or to pick up women. Is likely to be a good dancer, can be charming but may be violent if offended or threatened. Usually 18 to 40ish.
If you don't want to be considered to be someone like that you would consider it a mild insult. However it is sometimes used as compliment when locals are trying to bullshit gringos that they are great lovers or dancers or have street-smarts. Often you will hear adults call precocious little boys tigueres as a kind of compliment. Also the young lad I mentioned in the same post would probably want to be considered a tiguere as he is desperate to be considered "one of the gang" when he hangs with older guys.
What I don't know is whether this word is used in other Latin countries such as Puerto Rico. I think it is just Dominican but I am not sure.
Yes, they use it in other Latin American countries. In fact, Daddy Yankee says, "Yo soy un Tigre" in one of his songs with the Luny Tunes. A tigre is a gangster. In the DR they will call you a mafioso or a tigre. A mafioso is much worst than a tigre because Mafiosos are all bad. I've never heard it as a term used for great lover. They usually call that person a chulo. When they call children tigres it's because they are acting like little badasses. I guess it can be used as a term for street wise but, it is mostly used for bad men. (ie. Tu eres muy tigre.)
BoricuaOnline
11-09-09, 04:28
Hey Charle Pooter,
Since you live in PP can you give me exactly what a tiguere is from a local? If your called a tiguere in the DR is that a positive comment or is it considered derogatory comment?
Thanks
Tiguere is a dominican word, a tiguere is a smart guy, in Puerto Rico we recognize it is a dominican word and we use it to denote how smart a guy is when conquering a girl, it has a wider use in DR. Tu eres un tiguerazo!
Tiguere is a dominican word, a tiguere is a smart guy, in Puerto Rico we recognize it is a dominican word and we use it to denote how smart a guy is when conquering a girl, it has a wider use in DR. Tu eres un tiguerazo!Some Dominicans will joke with a gringo when the gringo know somes Spanish slang, "Tu eres una tiguere". It's not an insult (depends upon the conversation).
I guess the suffix aso or azo added to the ending of words, I guess amplifies the word, ladron (thief) and stronger is ladronaso, mentira (liar) stronger mentirosa. I guess, I am no expert in Spanish.
Excuse me Professor but for how much far under 1,500 are you talking.
I would love to know this for one week.
I'm sorry but I don't overpay but I don't nickel and dime them to death either.At BB's you could spend a about $1,500 in a week maybe a little more, IMHO, it depends on what you want to do. If you figure $64 ($55 x 16%VAT) a day for the room, $450 for 7 nights. Then if you take 1 girl ST (1500 DOP = $42), and 1 girl LT (3000DOP = $84), for $126 a day, or $882 for 7 days worth of girls (that’s 14 different girls, you could also do 3 ST's a day, and get 21 girls, for the same price). Then about $40 a day for food and drinks (More if you are a heavy drinker) is $240. Then $45 taxi each way from POP = $90, plus $10 for your tourist card. So all in all this itinerary cost $1,672. Now obviously this is not an exact amount or anything, but it is a rough plan. It is very similar to how I budget to plan for my trips. Hope you enjoy.
DVEight
Charles Pooter
11-09-09, 18:20
Yes, they use it in other Latin American countries. In fact, Daddy Yankee says, "Yo soy un Tigre" in one of his songs with the Luny Tunes. A tigre is a gangster. In the DR they will call you a mafioso or a tigre. A mafioso is much worst than a tigre because Mafiosos are all bad. I've never heard it as a term used for great lover. They usually call that person a chulo. When they call children tigres it's because they are acting like little badasses. I guess it can be used as a term for street wise but, it is mostly used for bad men. (ie. Tu eres muy tigre.)
Thanks Negro562 but we were discussing "tiguere" ranther than "tigre". BoricuaOnline supports my assumption that it is a peculiarly Dominican usage with this meaning and spelling, though it was obviously derived from the wider usage of "tigre" which you describe so well.
Traveler04
11-09-09, 22:39
Kennilingus: This is a bit out of order but I wanted to say thanks for the current info. on FOD. I posted a summary of several options BB's, FOD and Sosua and some of my FOD info was off the mark. The ID check at FOD did not always happen but I am pleased it does now. I also like that there are more girls around during the day. I always felt bad that girls had to wait around at various places to late in the night when there were no clients.
Again thank you for the recent report of FOD!
Heading to DR for thanksgiving weekend, flying into santiago and driving to north coast with a rental car. Any senior member can give me the comparison between BB, FOD and New Garden. Who has the best hotel accommodating? the condition of the hotel, the rooms, and the facility. don't really care for the chicas as I can manage that on my own. I'm not much the nightlife type as I got that out of my system years ago. Just need to relax, do some excursions and maybe a ST with a chica before calling a night. TIA
Ivorytickler
11-10-09, 07:09
The $42 ans $84 rates he was telling you was for the girl only. 1500 pesos short time and 2500-3000 for all night. Hotels there cost anywhere from a low of $30 to $55 per night. Food is extra, but cheap.What is the time frame for an all-nighter? (start time and end time).
Manizales911
11-10-09, 13:59
Heading to DR for thanksgiving weekend, flying into santiago and driving to north coast with a rental car. Any senior member can give me the comparison between BB, FOD and New Garden. Who has the best hotel accommodating? the condition of the hotel, the rooms, and the facility. don't really care for the chicas as I can manage that on my own. I'm not much the nightlife type as I got that out of my system years ago. Just need to relax, do some excursions and maybe a ST with a chica before calling a night. TIAAnother lazy newbie, RTFF and THEN ask for help.
What is the time frame for an all-nighter? (start time and end time).
TLN can range from 3 hours to 12 hours, it is up to you to confirm if she sleeps over she must perfrom in the AM. Many chicas will sleep over to avoid the publico ride home at 4AM and sneak out @ 7 AM without performing. In my book a chica does not deserve to get paid extra unless she provides AM service.
Ivorytickler
11-11-09, 21:19
TLN can range from 3 hours to 12 hours, it is up to you to confirm if she sleeps over she must perfrom in the AM. Many chicas will sleep over to avoid the publico ride home at 4AM and sneak out @ 7 AM without performing. In my book a chica does not deserve to get paid extra unless she provides AM service.Thanks, Buscemi. And FYI, Manizales, I read about 80 of the 269 pages in this thread before giving up and asking the question. Also, although I have not posted many reports here, I have posted over 100 reports in the forum Jackson ran before this one.
Recently I raised some questions about how the BB management deals with the girls and gave some examples of how the management was exploitive.
Well, I also happen to like the place and was there recently.
(And almost got a 21-cannon salute, -with all of them pointed at me!)
“El Capitan” took great offense to my comments and explained to me in (excruciating) detail that the information I had put out was inaccurate.
He showed me copies of the rules for chicas and insisted that:
The girls did NOT subsidize the bikini contests with their own money.
Medical exams as required are FREE (paid for by the DR government)
They are NOT fined for coming late to work (the penalty is getting sent home for the day).
Moreover, he insisted that I ask any chica to confirm what he said. (Which I did).
Sure enough, the girl I was with later confirmed that information, and was in fact, very grateful for the opportunity to work there.
Well, that’s hard to ignore or deny, so I gotta go with the latest/best information available.
(I know that this issue is of supreme indifference to most of the guys on this forum, as they are really only interested in a good time and couldn’t care less about this subject), BUT
In the interest of accuracy, honesty, - and my credibility, if I provided the forum with inaccurate information, I gotta clean up my own mess and ensure that I’m putting out accurate info.
And on this issue, the information given to me was indeed inaccurate.
So I have NO problem whatsoever correcting errors when proven wrong,
-nor do I have a problem offering El Capitan an apology when he deserves one.
And So…
I’ve often recommended Blackbeards as a good value for the time and money, particularly for first-time visitors to the DR.
I still recommend it.
In the interest of accuracy, honesty, - and my credibility, if I provided the forum with inaccurate information, I gotta clean up my own mess and ensure that I’m putting out accurate info.
It takes a lot of self respect and dignity to make a post like that. What I find the most important is to know what process to change internally so that you don’t repeat the same error in other similar circumstances.
Live and Learn
Great post, it takes a real man to step up to the plate and apologize. You the man.
Recently I raised some questions about how the BB management deals with the girls and gave some examples of how the management was exploitive.
Well, I also happen to like the place and was there recently.
(And almost got a 21-cannon salute, -with all of them pointed at me!)
“El Capitan” took great offense to my comments and explained to me in (excruciating) detail that the information I had put out was inaccurate.
He showed me copies of the rules for chicas and insisted that:
The girls did NOT subsidize the bikini contests with their own money.
Medical exams as required are FREE (paid for by the DR government)
They are NOT fined for coming late to work (the penalty is getting sent home for the day).
Moreover, he insisted that I ask any chica to confirm what he said. (Which I did).
Sure enough, the girl I was with later confirmed that information, and was in fact, very grateful for the opportunity to work there.
Well, that’s hard to ignore or deny, so I gotta go with the latest/best information available.
(I know that this issue is of supreme indifference to most of the guys on this forum, as they are really only interested in a good time and couldn’t care less about this subject), BUT
In the interest of accuracy, honesty, - and my credibility, if I provided the forum with inaccurate information, I gotta clean up my own mess and ensure that I’m putting out accurate info.
And on this issue, the information given to me was indeed inaccurate.
So I have NO problem whatsoever correcting errors when proven wrong,
-nor do I have a problem offering El Capitan an apology when he deserves one.
And So…
I’ve often recommended Blackbeards as a good value for the time and money, particularly for first-time visitors to the DR.
I still recommend it.
....
In the interest of accuracy, honesty....
Yanqui,
I don't know if I would have liked the "21 cannon" salute, but good for you to clear things up from your meeting with El Capitan.
I, like you, enjoy the women there and I don't ever want to see them exploited. It took guts to post a response like this.
Again, good for you.
Big Daddy 1906
11-19-09, 18:42
After several years of of Brazil, Dubai, Asia and all points in between, I will finally make it back to the place where it all began for me, DR!!!
I will be in Puerto Plata from 12-30-09 to 1-3-09 at Blackbeards. (Love the hot tub) I could use a good wingman to reacquaint me with the ropes. First Presidente is on me. PM me and let's get the party started!!
Scubadiver12
11-19-09, 19:49
After several years of of Brazil, Dubai, Asia and all points in between, I will finally make it back to the place where it all began for me, DR!
I will be in Puerto Plata from 12-30-09 to 1-3-09 at Blackbeards. (Love the hot tub) I could use a good wingman to reacquaint me with the ropes. First Presidente is on me. PM me and let's get the party started!Hi! I will be at BB's from 12/25/ to 1/1. Second President is for me. I''m coming from Paris France, It's my second stay in PP, first in last January I were at Oxygen retreat.
I'll see you.
Daryll Musician
11-20-09, 03:35
Hi! I will be at BB's from 12/25/ to 1/1. Second President is for me. I''m coming from Paris France, It's my second stay in PP, first in last January I were at Oxygen retreat.
I'll see you.I will be there 12/30-1/5 (From Washington, D.C. via Newport Beach, CA).
I'll see you both at BB's (my first trip to PP).
I will be in Costambar from 12-07-09 to 2-7-09.
I''m coming from Brussels, Belgium)
It's my sixth stay in Costambar
I'll see you.
I have heard through a few sources that Vikings resort in Cabarete has been closed down. I have been to Vikings a few times, and was thinking of going back soon, but the site is now unavailable, emails bounce back, and a girl I met there that I still see has told me it has been shut down.
Is there anyone that can confirm this?
Scubadiver12
11-20-09, 17:53
I will be there 12/30-1/5 (From Washington, D.C. via Newport Beach, CA).
I'll see you both at BB's (my first trip to PP).First President for me!!
I have heard through a few sources that Vikings resort in Cabarete has been closed down. I have been to Vikings a few times, and was thinking of going back soon, but the site is now unavailable, emails bounce back, and a girl I met there that I still see has told me it has been shut down.
Is there anyone that can confirm this?I have been there a few times myself when he was at Perla Marina, part of the Beeches resort.
I wonder what happened, maybe Dean had enough.
Hong Kong Boy
11-21-09, 06:52
I have heard through a few sources that Vikings resort in Cabarete has been closed down. I have been to Vikings a few times, and was thinking of going back soon, but the site is now unavailable, emails bounce back, and a girl I met there that I still see has told me it has been shut down.
Is there anyone that can confirm this?
Wonder the same thing myself. I'm going there Dec 7 -DEC 11. Now don't know what to do.
Wonder the same thing myself. I'm going there Dec 7 -DEC 11. Now don't know what to do.
Why don't you ust go to Russia?
Big Daddy 1906
11-21-09, 09:04
I will be there 12/30-1/5 (From Washington, D.C. via Newport Beach, CA).
I'll see you both at BB's (my first trip to PP).
Looking forward to it!
Wonder the same thing myself. I'm going there Dec 7 -DEC 11. Now don't know what to do.I have had it confirmed that there are problems there and it seems the villa is closed. I have emailed the cat69 email and it bounces back and also the site is gone. I have emailed Dean on his personal email but not heard anything for a few days. I spoke to a girl I know who is there at the mo and she says most of the girls are going back home.
But Hong Kong Boy best to wait till hopefully you hear back from Steve the new manager. I believe the problem has arisen from Brazil and the use of Brazilian girls, and I hope that Dean can get things sorted.
Lets hope he gets things sorted, as I think it is a great place having been there many times, so I hope all gets sorted and I can go as hoped for New Year.
Hong Kong Boy let me know if you hear from Steve, and if I get any more info I will post on here.
Wonder the same thing myself. I'm going there Dec 7 -DEC 11. Now don't know what to do.Since I stopped going to Vikings, I have been going to BB's. Great place. Full of Dominican girls and less than half the money than Viking's.
But if you are into the Slavic girls, check out Exotic Retreat (dot) net
In Santo Domingo, there is Satisfactionplus (dot) com
and AI in Juan Dolio
Scubadiver12
11-21-09, 14:00
I will be in Costambar from 12-07-09 to 2-7-09.
I''m coming from Brussels, Belgium)
It's my sixth stay in Costambar
I'll see you.I hope you speak french, I don't speak spanish and my english is so poor!
Will be in BB from 12/25 to 01/01.
I'll see you!
Hong Kong Boy
11-21-09, 18:55
Why don't you ust to Russia?
Too far from Cleveland,Ohio. Not worth it to go for 4 days. If I've more time would love to go.
I will be in Costambar from 12-07-09 to 2-7-10 (sorry , was mistake)
I''m coming from Brussels, Belgium
It's my sixth stay in Costambar
I'll see you.
I hope you speak french, I don't speak spanish and my english is so poor!
Will be in BB from 12/25 to 01/01.
I'll !I speak english, a little french and poco español
See you.
Kennilingus
11-22-09, 17:45
I stayed a the FOD for 14 days. The last 2 weeks of October.
During my entire stay the way I was treated I can best describe as being like a cross between treated like royalty, and the favored son coming home!
That included everyone who worked there from the Grounds-keeper, to the Maid. Right up to Alberto, the owner, and everyone in between made a point (without ever being a pain) to make sure that my experience at FOD was outstanding, and that I was happy (and beyond).
BTW. I am not that easy to keep happy. Especially for 14 straight days, and I have NEVER been happier!
THe service I got while there was 5 Star +. From everyone!
The only way it could have been better is if the spinner receptionist was topless with a can of whipped cream available. And if I'd suggested it. Who knows.
My opinion. After actually being there. Is that they absolutely perfected the Adult Vacation Experience!
Having a rental car gave me the freedom to experience more of the DR and do things (monger) my way, and still enjoy the "Adult Day Care" environment.
As for my FOD experience, and that of other guests I talked to during my stay. FOD has found the magic combination!
That combination I am refering to about is the service, service with a smile, atmosphere, attitude. Things that with my limited vocabulary are almost impossible to quantify in writing. But they perfected it! If I was going to stay at a BB's/FOD style setting again. It would be FOD, hands down. Based on the service I'd received!
I've been a guest at BB's twice, and would rate my overall experience to be a 4.
Measured on the same scale, my combined (2) experiences at FOD were 9. 5 on the same scale. Apples to apples!
During the reservation process, I negotiated a $34/night rate based on a stay of 14 nights.
During my stay there were always at least a 5:1 ratio, (Chicas to Guests) and some days 10: 1, and overall I found them to be much happier and more willing to show me a REALLY good time than at BB's.
FOD seemed to me to be a much less oppressive for the girls to work in than BB's.
Less rules = happier chicas = happier clients (& more pics)
The chica asking price was about the same as BB's.
Many times during my stay Alberto told me that they wanted guests to feel like they were coming home to family and friends when they returned to FOD. BB's pays lip service to the same goal, but for me. FOD more than achieved this standard.
IMHO FOD has found the Holy Grail of customer service. My only fear is that there may not be room at the Inn when I want to return (based on return business and referrals from happy customers).
Trainerforhire
11-23-09, 00:12
What's Up Players. I'll be instaying at BB from the 28 Jan-01 Feb 2010. Could you help a brother out and list and post pics of the chicas with the best head game. I'm talking about no hands and deep throat. And of couse BBBJ. CIM. And swallow. The chica that love and take pride in your oral skills. Hollar back and see you in 2010.
I stayed a the FOD for 14 days. The last 2 weeks of October.
During my entire stay the way I was treated I can best describe as being like a cross between treated like royalty, and the favored son coming home!
That included everyone who worked there from the Grounds-keeper, to the Maid. Right up to Alberto, the owner, and everyone in between made a point (without ever being a pain) to make sure that my experience at FOD was outstanding, and that I was happy (and beyond).
BTW. I am not that easy to keep happy. Especially for 14 straight days, and I have NEVER been happier!
THe service I got while there was 5 Star +. From everyone!
The only way it could have been better is if the spinner receptionist was topless with a can of whipped cream available. And if I'd suggested it. Who knows.
My opinion. After actually being there. Is that they absolutely perfected the Adult Vacation Experience!
Having a rental car gave me the freedom to experience more of the DR and do things (monger) my way, and still enjoy the "Adult Day Care" environment.
As for my FOD experience, and that of other guests I talked to during my stay. FOD has found the magic combination!
That combination I am refering to about is the service, service with a smile, atmosphere, attitude. Things that with my limited vocabulary are almost impossible to quantify in writing. But they perfected it! If I was going to stay at a BB's/FOD style setting again. It would be FOD, hands down. Based on the service I'd received!
I've been a guest at BB's twice, and would rate my overall experience to be a 4.
Measured on the same scale, my combined (2) experiences at FOD were 9. 5 on the same scale. Apples to apples!
During the reservation process, I negotiated a $34/night rate based on a stay of 14 nights.
During my stay there were always at least a 5:1 ratio, (Chicas to Guests) and some days 10: 1, and overall I found them to be much happier and more willing to show me a REALLY good time than at BB's.
FOD seemed to me to be a much less oppressive for the girls to work in than BB's.
Less rules = happier chicas = happier clients (& more pics)
The chica asking price was about the same as BB's.
Many times during my stay Alberto told me that they wanted guests to feel like they were coming home to family and friends when they returned to FOD. BB's pays lip service to the same goal, but for me. FOD more than achieved this standard.
IMHO FOD has found the Holy Grail of customer service. My only fear is that there may not be room at the Inn when I want to return (based on return business and referrals from happy customers).
K,
I was there for a few days this summer and as you , I found it very attractive. My one gripe was the selection of girls there. There were a few, but not the quantity/quality of BB. Was Angelita there? I had seen reports that she acted as the mamasan, to make calls if asked, but in 2-3 days, I never saw her.
I wish both hotels well. There are a lot of women in that dysfunctional society that need a safe place to earn some money.
There was a rumour a month or so ago that Yohanny was going back to BB's. Anyone know if this came true I am going to BB's in a couple of weeks. She was one of the best in the past. I want to get on that ride again.
There was a rumour a month or so ago that Yohanny was going back to BB's. Anyone know if this came true I am going to BB's in a couple of weeks. She was one of the best in the past. I want to get on that ride again.I was at BB's 8-18 November and Yohanny was there the whole time!
BB's hasn't changed, still great service from staff and chicas.
Just like "shooting fish in a barrel. "
One good change is when the power goes out, NONE of the rooms are effected so the A/C stays on!
And there is a activites for guest and chica's everyday and night from Bikini Volley ball to Latin dance lessons at night.
It's a great time at BB's!
I was there Oct. 8 to the 13 and yes Yohanny is back and she looked great. Also take a look at Delaniah wow! And Krystal three of my favorites.
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