Puerto Plata

[Charles Pooter]

I will say this, if you can afford to support a woman without needing her income, I would suggest importing one from the Dominican. That's my plan!I would read the boards more often, not just this one. You will then find out that this plan ends in tears for the guy 95% of the time. Do you think that your hot Dominican novia will act the same once she is in the US? She will quickly pick up all the worse attributes of American women while retaining the worse attributes of Dominican women (uneducated, volatile, superstitious, etc). If she lives away from other Dominicans she will be bored stiff. If she lives near them, then those Dominicans will always rate before you for your partner's time, attention and loyalty, not to mention you will be expected to contribute financially to an ever-widening family circle.

Maybe 5% of such arrangements last, and even then that is not to say that they are any happier than your average American marriage.

I understand this was your first time in the DR and you spent most of your trip in the totally artificial environment of Blackbeards. When you have been coming for five years, spent time in different towns and with various categories of Dominicans, and have talked to, or learned the sad stories of, around fifty guys who made the mistake of importing dominicanas to North America, you will be in a better position to make a wise decision.

Like you, I spent my first visit at Blackbeards, and like you I loved every minute and was intoxicated by my first experience of Dominican putas. But after more than two years of being in the DR on vacation, and now as a resident ex-pat, I have acquired a less starry-eyed perception of the local females.

[Professor 1]

I understand this was your first time in the DR and you spent most of your trip in the totally artificial environment of Blackbeards. When you have been coming for five years, spent time in different towns and with various categories of Dominicans, and have . . . talked to around fifty guys . . . you will be in a better position to make a wise decision.This is good advice. I visit 2 to 3 times per year, and just returned from a trip to the capital. Interact with the girls in a more normal environment. Go to the mall, have dinner at her house, meet the family, help the dependents with their homework, and go on a traditional date outside the sex zone. While it still beats the USA experience, it is less exotic.

[Frannie]

The DR is a mans paradise and every man owes it to himself to experience it as least once. But be warned, if you go, your entire perception of American women will change. You will discover that compared to Dominican women, American women do not know how to treat / please a man. Their heads are too full of ideas of equality and worrying about their careers. I will say this, if you can afford to support a woman without needing her income, I would suggest importing one from the Dominican. That's my plan! First timers feel free to PM me, ill answer all questions to the best of my ablitiy.In a prior post before you went to the DR you wrote this:

"The fat one in the apt" was one of the hottest women in the whole video! She had tits and ass for days! If anyone knows where that was or how I could find her while I'm down there, please let me know!"

I'm sorry you didn't find this young lady. Bummer! I hope that you were able to find adequate substitutes.

My wife is a Dominicana. She is not a bad woman, but she has landed me with a menagerie of cats, dogs, rabbits, fish, and chickens to take care of, so if you do want to adopt a pet Dominicana don't rush into it and make sure you know what you are getting into before you take delivery. Although American women can be tiresome, Dominicanas although somewhat loveable, are not necessarily rational creatures.

But don't do anything until you have had your fill of sex, so that does not distort your judgement.

[DrSexalot]

In a prior post before you went to the DR you wrote this:

"The fat one in the apt" was one of the hottest women in the whole video! She had tits and ass for days! If anyone knows where that was or how I could find her while I'm down there, please let me know!"

I'm sorry you didn't find this young lady. Bummer! I hope that you were able to find adequate substitutes.

My wife is a Dominicana. She is not a bad woman, but she has landed me with a menagerie of cats, dogs, rabbits, fish, and chickens to take care of, so if you do want to adopt a pet Dominicana don't rush into it and make sure you know what you are getting into before you take delivery. Although American women can be tiresome, Dominicanas although somewhat loveable, are not necessarily rational creatures.

But don't do anything until you have had your fill of sex, so that does not distort your judgement. Hey guys, I'm no chicas fool. I think you all are misinterpreting my statement. I'm not planning on running out and picking one up tomorrow to bring her to the US. It would be a very very very long process for me to bring a girl from the DR to the US. First of all, she must know how to fuck and suck, second of all, she must know how to take care of a man, third of all she must have NO KIDS, forth of all she can't be a prositiute. I don't want a girl that all of yall have dumping your loads inside her mouth that I have to kiss for the rest of my life. As you can see from just those 4 things, I have eleminated 99% of the chicas in the DR! Now, if I happen to find that 1, and she's faithful and loyal and makes me happy then yes, I would consider bringing her to the USA and marring her. Believe me, I'm in no rush!

And no, unfortunatly I didn't find the girl in the video, I had my novia with me while I was in sousua, yeah I know big mistake, anyway so I wasnt able to look around much. But I saw women there, perfect 10s of all shapes and sizes, that I could hardly believe were real. The DR is one hell of a country!

[Lorenzo]

Excellent reports, rank among the best I have read recently. However, you don't say (except for the one you kept overnight) how much you paid for the girls. I am planning to go to Blackbeard's as soon as I can fit it in, so please tell me the following: 1) is the chica fee set by the house, or do you have to negotiate with each chica (I know it isn't included in the room rate, as it is in other Dominican resorts)? 2) do you pay the chica at the time of service, or do you pay the house when you check out? 3) do the girls walk around naked in certain parts of the resort, like the hot tub? I gather from your post that they do.

I have never been to DR or Haiti. I am thinking about starting in Haiti, then going to DR and visiting Oxygen, DR Nights, and BBs, although I'm not sure in what order. Does anyone think all that is doable in one trip?

[Kitie Carson]

Excellent reports, rank among the best I have read recently. However, you don't say (except for the one you kept overnight) how much you paid for the girls. I am planning to go to Blackbeard's as soon as I can fit it in, so please tell me the following: 1) is the chica fee set by the house, or do you have to negotiate with each chica (I know it isn't included in the room rate, as it is in other Dominican resorts)? 2) do you pay the chica at the time of service, or do you pay the house when you check out? 3) do the girls walk around naked in certain parts of the resort, like the hot tub? I gather from your post that they do.

I have never been to DR or Haiti. I am thinking about starting in Haiti, then going to DR and visiting Oxygen, DR Nights, and BBs, although I'm not sure in what order. Does anyone think all that is doable in one trip?1). Fee is set by house.

2) payment AFTER services rendered.

3) NO they do not walk around naked. Jacuzzi, maybe.

4) visiting all those are doable, depending on you bankroll.

I just got back Thursday from 2 week Sosua / BB trip. TR to follow.

[Doker44]

I will say this, if you can afford to support a woman without needing her income, I would suggest importing one from the Dominican. That's my plan! First timers feel free to PM me, ill answer all questions to the best of my ablitiy.

I just got back also and you might have been there when I was actually. Your report is good and and nothing like coming back with that WOW factor. You have found a great place in BB's. But don't make the mistake that BB's is anything like the rest of the DR. Unfortunately many regulars think the same thing. Guys falling in love with girls 40 years younger then them is at an all time high at BB's. Yes many of the girls do seem to be nice and should be treated with respect and before the gentleman that know me and my ISG handle get pissed at me I have caught myself in the past falling for a girl at BB's also. As a DR friend of mine told me BB's is for entertainment. Go out to the real bars / clubs and you will find it easier then the states but that you will have to have some game and for the most part are not going to point and go" me American with money lets go to cabana".

Drsexalot do yourself a favor and get the idea of bring a girl to the states out of your head, this is typical thinking after returning from BB's. It will not work! The only way this will work is if you live in the DR. Not to burst your bubble but the girls can smell out a newbie and tell them what they want to hear. For example you mention Wanda, before her baby a couple of years ago she was emailing and calling me like crazy and was sure we were getting married and telling me she loved me.


Tim and Martha and staff like always run a top notch business. It is without doubt a fun place to take a vacation and I look forward to returning in a couple of months. If I owned a hotel I would be lucky to have this hard working staff. Before I say the below remember I have many trips to compare it to and sometimes it is just the luck of the draw besides my high expectations for the place because it has spoiled me over the last couple of years plus it does go up and down over time. But I actually found a few dis-interested girls and you can tell from looking at them sitting around. It is a tough job but they look like they are in pain sitting at BB's. A matter of fact several new guys came up to me and asked me if they get paid just for being there because of there lack of interest. The good news is the girls are young and I would say 9's. Texting once again is at an all time high and annoying. I don't think BB's can do anything about it but it is just a product of the world we live in but texting while at the disco, etc sucks and to make things worst several girls got upset over texts. Not good if you are with them. Now I did hit some out of the ball park also, some girls are just shy, and one such girl that I was convinced would be horrible rocked my world. I love those surprises. There are still much more good then bad and that is why I look forward to my next trip.

Lorenzo...do yourself a favor skip those other places in the DR and go to BB's

[DrSexalot]

I just got back also and you might have been there when I was actually. Your report is good and and nothing like coming back with that WOW factor. You have found a great place in BB's. But don't make the mistake that BB's is anything like the rest of the DR. Unfortunately many regulars think the same thing. Guys falling in love with girls 40 years younger then them is at an all time high at BB's. Yes many of the girls do seem to be nice and should be treated with respect and before the gentleman that know me and my ISG handle get pissed at me I have caught myself in the past falling for a girl at BB's also. As a DR friend of mine told me BB's is for entertainment. Go out to the real bars / clubs and you will find it easier then the states but that you will have to have some game and for the most part are not going to point and go" me American with money lets go to cabana".

Drsexalot do yourself a favor and get the idea of bring a girl to the states out of your head, this is typical thinking after returning from BB's. It will not work! The only way this will work is if you live in the DR. Not to burst your bubble but the girls can smell out a newbie and tell them what they want to hear. For example you mention Wanda, before her baby a couple of years ago she was emailing and calling me like crazy and was sure we were getting married and telling me she loved me.

Tim and Martha and staff like always run a top notch business. It is without doubt a fun place to take a vacation and I look forward to returning in a couple of months. If I owned a hotel I would be lucky to have this hard working staff. Before I say the below remember I have many trips to compare it to and sometimes it is just the luck of the draw besides my high expectations for the place because it has spoiled me over the last couple of years plus it does go up and down over time. But I actually found a few dis-interested girls and you can tell from looking at them sitting around. It is a tough job but they look like they are in pain sitting at BB's. A matter of fact several new guys came up to me and asked me if they get paid just for being there because of there lack of interest. The good news is the girls are young and I would say 9's. Texting once again is at an all time high and annoying. I don't think BB's can do anything about it but it is just a product of the world we live in but texting while at the disco, etc sucks and to make things worst several girls got upset over texts. Not good if you are with them. Now I did hit some out of the ball park also, some girls are just shy, and one such girl that I was convinced would be horrible rocked my world. I love those surprises. There are still much more good then bad and that is why I look forward to my next trip.

Lorenzo. Do yourself a favor skip those other places in the DR and go to BB'sI think you guys are under the impression that I'm some sort of rookie. Well I am a rookie when it comes to the DR, but def not a rook when it comes to women. And regardless of if the woman is from mars, SHE IS STILL A WOMAN. And ultimately, if you are going to marry a woman, IT WILL COST YOU. My point in saying that I would prefer a dominican was simply this, American women are too much trouble, its all about them and what you can do for them. Now I know that many DR women would fit into the same category but the difference is with them, from what I can tell from my limited time at BBs, a few bars and such (and yes I know that BB is not the real world but I would argue that if you actually sit down and talk to the girls, which I did, and get away from all of the "sex / fuck talk" then you can get a glimpse of who they are as a person.) that DR women are 1. More submissive than american women. 2. DR women have less of these crazy feminist ideas about equality and carrears and 3. I think, as a whole, DR women are hotter than american girls. I saw girls down there that looked like they belonged in a movie, perfect 10s! The fact that she speaks spanish would also be a bonus for me cause my kids would grow up learning two languages. I don't need her to work, or have a college degree. What I do need from her is to not be a working girl, be able to fuck / suck, take care of home, know how to go to the mall without spending 1K on shoes and purses, and last but not least, have some common sense. Do you honestly think I would marry a girl from BBs? HELL NO! But I do sympathize and feel sorry for some of them. For several of these girls, if they don't fuck that day, their kids might not eat that night. In fact, seveal of them don't even have indoor plumbing. But know this, even though have feelings and actually like some of them, it doesn't mean that I'm going to run out and marry one.

And yes, I could see Wanda doing that. I'm sure she would like nothing more than to marry an american to get her out of poverty. In fact she told me that it is every dominican girls dream to marry a rich american. How is that for honesty?

And yes, there are seveal girls at BB that are completly disinterested and they basicly txt all night long. Maria Estel, the hot pregnant girl, is probaly the one of the worst ones when it comes to doing that. I didn't really mind it though. She didn't txt when we were talking or fucking so. For her, fucking is just a job, one that she probably has to do cause she has one on the way. One girl even told me that "my heart is sad working here." When she said that I actually felt bad that I had fucked her. I hate to add to her misery. Oh well.

In summary, BBs is a wonderful, fantastic, magical place. But guys beware, do not fall in love. For me, I fell in love with the DR, NOT with any particular girl at BBs. I plan to go back to the DR and if I find one there that meets all of my criteria then I would def consider tying the not. But believe me, I am not in a rush.

[Dondi135]

I think you guys are under the impression that I'm some sort of rookie. Well I am a rookie when it comes to the DR, but def not a rook when it comes to women. And regardless of if the woman is from mars, SHE IS STILL A WOMAN. And ultimately, if you are going to marry a woman, IT WILL COST YOU. My point in saying that I would prefer a dominican was simply this, American women are too much trouble, its all about them and what you can do for them. Now I know that many DR women would fit into the same category but the difference is with them, from what I can tell from my limited time at BBs, a few bars and such (and yes I know that BB is not the real world but I would argue that if you actually sit down and talk to the girls, which I did, and get away from all of the "sex / fuck talk" then you can get a glimpse of who they are as a person.) that DR women are 1. More submissive than american women. 2. DR women have less of these crazy feminist ideas about equality and carrears and 3. I think, as a whole, DR women are hotter than american girls. I saw girls down there that looked like they belonged in a movie, perfect 10s! The fact that she speaks spanish would also be a bonus for me cause my kids would grow up learning two languages. I don't need her to work, or have a college degree. What I do need from her is to not be a working girl, be able to fuck / suck, take care of home, know how to go to the mall without spending 1K on shoes and purses, and last but not least, have some common sense. Do you honestly think I would marry a girl from BBs? HELL NO! But I do sympathize and feel sorry for some of them. For several of these girls, if they don't fuck that day, their kids might not eat that night. In fact, seveal of them don't even have indoor plumbing. But know this, even though have feelings and actually like some of them, it doesn't mean that I'm going to run out and marry one.

And yes, I could see Wanda doing that. I'm sure she would like nothing more than to marry an american to get her out of poverty. In fact she told me that it is every dominican girls dream to marry a rich american. How is that for honesty?

And yes, there are seveal girls at BB that are completly disinterested and they basicly txt all night long. Maria Estel, the hot pregnant girl, is probaly the one of the worst ones when it comes to doing that. I didn't really mind it though. She didn't txt when we were talking or fucking so. For her, fucking is just a job, one that she probably has to do cause she has one on the way. One girl even told me that "my heart is sad working here." When she said that I actually felt bad that I had fucked her. I hate to add to her misery. Oh well.

In summary, BBs is a wonderful, fantastic, magical place. But guys beware, do not fall in love. For me, I fell in love with the DR, NOT with any particular girl at BBs. I plan to go back to the DR and if I find one there that meets all of my criteria then I would def consider tying the not. But believe me, I am not in a rush. Ok guys really. Do we think any dominican chick really loves you? They only love greenbacks! Go to Washington Heights in new york and see if any dom chicks would talk to you. And you say naa there Americanized, BULL CRAP, I know a dude that brought a chick over here married her had two kids and as soon as all her papers and American passport came through she took him for child and wife support and moved back to the D R built a big house for her and her family. So drsexalot don't do it, how about you move down there then marry any one you want don't do it the other way bro it will cost ya!

[Doker44]

I think you guys are under the impression that I'm some sort of rookie. Well I am a rookie when it comes to the DR, but def not a rook when it comes to women. And regardless of if the woman is from mars, SHE IS STILL A WOMAN. And ultimately, if you are going to marry a woman, IT WILL COST YOU. My point in saying that I would prefer a dominican was simply this, American women are too much trouble, its all about them and what you can do for them. Now I know that many DR women would fit into the same category but the difference is with them, from what I can tell from my limited time at BBs, a few bars and such (and yes I know that BB is not the real world but I would argue that if you actually sit down and talk to the girls, which I did, and get away from all of the "sex / fuck talk" then you can get a glimpse of who they are as a person.) that DR women are 1. More submissive than american women. 2. DR women have less of these crazy feminist ideas about equality and carrears and 3. I think, as a whole, DR women are hotter than american girls. I saw girls down there that looked like they belonged in a movie, perfect 10s! The fact that she speaks spanish would also be a bonus for me cause my kids would grow up learning two languages. I don't need her to work, or have a college degree. What I do need from her is to not be a working girl, be able to fuck / suck, take care of home, know how to go to the mall without spending 1K on shoes and purses, and last but not least, have some common sense. Do you honestly think I would marry a girl from BBs? HELL NO! But I do sympathize and feel sorry for some of them. For several of these girls, if they don't fuck that day, their kids might not eat that night. In fact, seveal of them don't even have indoor plumbing. But know this, even though have feelings and actually like some of them, it doesn't mean that I'm going to run out and marry one.

And yes, I could see Wanda doing that. I'm sure she would like nothing more than to marry an american to get her out of poverty. In fact she told me that it is every dominican girls dream to marry a rich american. How is that for honesty?

And yes, there are seveal girls at BB that are completly disinterested and they basicly txt all night long. Maria Estel, the hot pregnant girl, is probaly the one of the worst ones when it comes to doing that. I didn't really mind it though. She didn't txt when we were talking or fucking so. For her, fucking is just a job, one that she probably has to do cause she has one on the way. One girl even told me that "my heart is sad working here." When she said that I actually felt bad that I had fucked her. I hate to add to her misery. Oh well.

In summary, BBs is a wonderful, fantastic, magical place. But guys beware, do not fall in love. For me, I fell in love with the DR, NOT with any particular girl at BBs. I plan to go back to the DR and if I find one there that meets all of my criteria then I would def consider tying the not. But believe me, I am not in a rush.

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink! DRsexalot, Do what you want. But you are fucking up! You came on the board asking and posting thoughts. Please don't tell me to talk to the girls blah blah when I have been going to the BB's and the DR 4 or 5 times a year. The conversations you are having with the girls there at BB's all of us have already heard. Many. Many times! I have gone out with them to DR bars, I have gone to their houses, I have met their families and children, I have met their boyfriends how is all of that for getting to know them. They are great girls! But you talking marriage and bring girls to the states from your DR experience from being at BB's and Sousa is newbie shit.

[Steve1234]

I think you guys are under the impression that I'm some sort of rookie. Well I am a rookie when it comes to the DR, but def not a rook when it comes to women. .-Your posts are GREAT. I understand what you are trying to say. Look, there are ALL TYPES of DOMINICAN FEMALES in that country. You had a great first trip. There are all sorts of stereotypes of american women and of dominican women. There are exceptions to all the stereotypes. For example, you hear that a young successful Dominican woman that has a good job and a car would never talk to a gringo. Whatever- if you are old and unattractive that might be the case, but you are not. I had heard that stereotype, and set out to see if its true. Its not. I have traveled to the DR about 30 times, (never to BBs or for the Sosua deal). My trips have been to Santiago, Santo Domingo, and San Pedro-met the chicks off Badoo. You can MEET ANY TYPE of chick of these sites. Its easy to go down there and f*ck, but just for an experiment try to meet one from one of the various internet forums badoo or facebook that has a car and can pick you up at the airport, that is the coolest thing. This chick that I came across was a 28, a doctor, good family, SUV, VISA, freakin pool at the house. We had a great time, she even paid for the first nite out when I arrived in santo domingo at one of the fancy cabanas, went to La Romana for the other days. I speak pretty good spanish, know how to dance merengue, and bachata, dress appropiately-I am saying all this to say that if you do want to settle down with a Dominican, thats cool, but it doesn't have to be with a hot dirt-poor dominican, it can be with a successful employed Hot Dominican.

I kinda slowed down my trips to the DR because I stumbled across a hot little brown skin cutie here in tampa that is way different. Makes good money working SAP, loves to f*ck, suck, and swallow, doesn't, doesn't want to get married, lets me do my thing, doesn't ask stupid questions. Definitely not the the typical american chick.

Anyway DrSexAlot-continue having a blast, don't get married, don't have no kids, and enjoy it there or here. Thanks for the awesome posts

[Dondi135]

They are great girls! But you talking marriage and bring girls to the states from your DR experience from being at BB's and Sousa is newbie shit.LMAO. Don't mean to LOL but he's got a point bro and that's why your on this board to get a second opinion now you got it and snap out of it bro. Much love

[Sam 14]

Will you guys let me know please. I know the first thing you're going to say is don't do it, it' dangerous as hell. I know, I've seen friends die in Thailand. But is it possible to rent a small motorbike there in Puerta Plata, or Sosua. Or even Santiago, or the capital. If so, how much, you think. 200 a day. 300. 400.

Thanks alot in advance.

[Charles Pooter]

Will you guys let me know please. I know the first thing you're going to say is don't do it, it' dangerous as hell. I know, I've seen friends die in Thailand. But is it possible to rent a small motorbike there in Puerta Plata, or Sosua. Or even Santiago, or the capital. If so, how much, you think. 200 a day. 300. 400.

Thanks alot in advance. You can rent them in any town. At least half the motoconchistas use rented bikes so it's a big industry. No idea of price but it must be very cheap if those guys can afford it. If they take 500 pesos they've had a good day and they have to pay for gas out of that so the rental cannot cost much.

I think rental price is trivial and the least of your worries. Safety, maintenance, and scams should concern you more.

[Tempoecorto]

Planning to get to POP middle July all by myself. First time in DR. This Forum is amazing. Who knows I might be actually able to run into some of you for a beer, perhaps even a game of cricket with Charles Pooter! .

Dumb Questions:

1. Is this high season, despite the heat? If low season, can I ask hotels for discounts?

2. My plan is to cover Sosua and BB. Would it be sensible to split the stay (4-5 nights) in two separate places? I like the idea of staying in Sosua in a non A / C place (any recommendation?) if safe and with the usual creature comforts.

3. While I like the guaranteed nature of BB, I like the adventure of knocking on regular doors, mostly to be driven away but sometimes, with the chance to score. BTW, Can one just swing by BB, without having to stay there, just in case, I need to hedge my bets.

Many thanks for now!

[Frannie]

Planning to get to POP middle July all by myself. First time in DR. This Forum is amazing. Who knows I might be actually able to run into some of you for a beer, perhaps even a game of cricket with Charles Pooter! .

Dumb Questions:

1. Is this high season, despite the heat? If low season, can I ask hotels for discounts?

2. My plan is to cover Sosua and BB. Would it be sensible to split the stay (4-5 nights) in two separate places? I like the idea of staying in Sosua in a non A / C place (any recommendation?) if safe and with the usual creature comforts.

3. While I like the guaranteed nature of BB, I like the adventure of knocking on regular doors, mostly to be driven away but sometimes, with the chance to score. BTW, Can one just swing by BB, without having to stay there, just in case, I need to hedge my bets.

Many thanks for now! No it is not high season, because of the heat and humidity, however Dominicans are out of school for the summer and many Dominicans take vacations at at the beach. You can ask for hotel discounts, but mostly the prices are already discounted for the season. You may have a better chance of a discount if you stay for a long time, like a month or more.

Yes, you can split between BB and Sosua. I would go to BB first. Not sure I would want a place without A / C at this time of year, though it may be bearable with a good fan and ventilation. Definitely cheaper without A / C.

Yes, you can just swing by BB, but if you take a girl out from there you have to pay extra. As, I said, I would go there first. Anyway, you would not need to "swing by" to get laid. You probably don't need to do much "knocking on doors", because chicas will approach you if interested. You just need to make initial eye contact and smile.

[Charles Pooter]

Planning to get to POP middle July all by myself. First time in DR. This Forum is amazing. Who knows I might be actually able to run into some of you for a beer, perhaps even a game of cricket with Charles Pooter!Nice thought, but I am not a great cricket fan. Besides, at present I am still recovering from a recent operation so I am not expending any energy unnecessarily, especially in the present heat and humidity. Just went up three flights of stairs to the roof to hang up the washing, and by the time I got back down my clothes are drenched with perspiration.


1. Is this high season, despite the heat? If low season, can I ask hotels for discounts?I think all the popular monger places are sticking to their regular tariffs. Apartments and villas are always negotiable, but for a short trip on your first ever visit I don't think that is the best way to go. You will benefit from mixing with more experienced DR mongers to show you around. Save you precious time and maybe money too. There is loads of recent information on the boards about the prices guys are currently paying at various places. You have a month to read up.


2. My plan is to cover Sosua and BB. Would it be sensible to split the stay (4-5 nights) in two separate places? I like the idea of staying in Sosua in a non A/C place (any recommendation?) if safe and with the usual creature comforts.I hate moving around once settled but I am a grumpy old fart. Many guys spend only one or two nights in a place so no reason why not, especially if you want to get the feel of the places for possible longer stays in future.

Does A/C mean "air-conditioned"? If so, why do you want to avoid it? To save money or because, like me, you have a dislike of it? I must admit my opposition has weakened for the first time during the past few days as it is extremely hot and humid and my ceiling and portable fans are working non-stop.

I suggest you start at Blackbeards as it is a safe environment to get the hang of the DR. Then move to Sosúa. Also secure your booking at Blackbeards first as that is just one, busy hotel and they may book up for the dates you need. You can always find somewhere in Sosúa as there are so many options (around 15 to 20 chica-friendly hotels, I guess) even if not your first choice.


3. While I like the guaranteed nature of BB, I like the adventure of knocking on regular doors, mostly to be driven away but sometimes, with the chance to score. BTW, Can one just swing by BB, without having to stay there, just in case, I need to hedge my bets.Hmm, you are not thinking straight here. Two issues:

If you just need a fuck, but you are not staying at Blackbeards, calling in there is an expensive way to get sex. Where would you be staying locally if not there? Yes, you could stay in Costambar or Plata Puerto but this is not recommended for a very short and first trip. Your holiday would be half over by the time you have found your way around.

Your plan of staying either at Blackbeards or in Sosúa or both is the right one. Stick to that. And if you are staying in Sosúa why would you want to make the long trip to Blackbeards, pay a salida (take-out fee) and have to pay for a room to do the deed, either at Blackbeards, if available, or in a cabaña (a sort of motel room rented for 3 or 4 hours and specifically designed for discreet sexual encounters)? You could just go to Passions and find a chica of equal quality. Expensive, but much cheaper than an expedition to Blackbeards.

Secondly, what do you mean by "knocking on regular doors". Do you mean picking up non-putas? If your whole trip lasts only 4/5 days I can tell you you have nil chance of succeeding at that, if success means getting in their knickers. If you are young(ish), reasonable looking, speak passable Spanish (and it helps if you have a car and can dance the local dances, merengue, bachata and salsa) you might stand an outside chance of achieving something in another town, but in Sosúa you will meet only working girls because non-putas avoid the place.

If you are not referring to "non-putas" then you don't have to do any "knocking" in Sosúa. Maybe have to fight them off with a broom?

[Tempoecorto]

Charles: Being of Indian (Asian variety) origin, I noted your "clean-bowled" which is why the cricket theme. I am aware that you are still recuperating. And I hope everything is going well.

P. S. : I know three kinds of Brits. The Cricket kind (rare these days) , the soccer kind and the rugby kind. .

1. Noted thoughts on BB from both of you. I will hence accord priority to that. I do not like the idea of switching places either but thought just might like to take in the whole panorama. That's all.

2. Air conditioning is something I did not grow up with despite the tropical heat / humidity of my native place, living in Singapore did not like it, living in EU, did not have it and while it is all around my house in New England, I really like the idea of while in Rome do as the Romans.

3. Charles, noted your thoughts on knocking on "regular doors" and the availability (or the lack of it) of such a thing in Sosua etc. Thanks much for the candid response. I have been trying to play "hookie" on a few online sites and so we will see how that pans out. As both of you mentioned, without a lot of time on hand and I am certainly the movie star kind, I have to work hard to get lucky! .

Will keep you posted on the next phase. Muy obligado!

[JukeJointJay1]

Hey Guys! I just booked for July 21-25 to POP. This is both my wingman and I first trip to D. R. And I'm looking for some feedback on whether to go to BB or Sosua or possibly a combination of the the two. We are pretty much winging it so ANY recommendations would be appreciated. We are thinking about BB first and then Sosua to round out the trip. Please Help! I'm coming to you guys as a humble student of the monger game

[Professor 1]

Hey Guys! I just booked for July 21-25 to POP. This is both my wingman and I first trip to D. R. And I'm looking for some feedback on whether to go to BB or Sosua or possibly a combination of the the two. We are pretty much winging it so ANY recommendations would be appreciated. We are thinking about BB first and then Sosua to round out the trip. Please Help! I'm coming to you guys as a humble student of the monger gameCharles and Frannie JUST answered this inquiry. Please take a look at the thread immediately prior to yours. I suggest BBs for new people, although I did BBs and Sosua during my first trip.

[JukeJointJay1]

Charles and Frannie JUST answered this inquiry. Please take a look at the thread immediately prior to yours. I suggest BBs for new people, although I did BBs and Sosua during my first trip.Thanks Professor I didn't even see that! What are the odds there is someone else with almost the same identical itinerary as mine. LOL

[Professor 1]

3. While I like the guaranteed nature of BB, I like the adventure of knocking on regular doors, mostly to be driven away but sometimes, with the chance to score. BTW, Can one just swing by BB, without having to stay there, just in case, I need to hedge my bets.Kindly allow me to slightly disagree with Charles on this one. You can get non-pros, or perhaps semi-pros; however, it will not be an instant thing like picking BB girls. I did so in the capital. It took me a week, and I told her that I was staying in the capital for a month, then returning to my residence in Puerta Plata. I was cold calling several universities for potential teaching jobs, and explained this to her. I told her where I went, and with whom I met. I met her at her job, asked her a question or two about how she liked the job and other small talk, and we started talking for nearly an hour. Business was slow at the job, so we could talk. I texted her during the week, it was much easier that struggling through our Spanish as she did not speak the King's Spanish. We went to the mall and strolled around, I met her family and had dinner with them, then I told her to come visit me at my apartment. It was work. I did not spend much money, as I only paid for her roundtrip taxi ride. He cab fare was far less than mine, but the locals get better rates. Getting her was work. She spoke no English. She wanted to see me the "second week," but I told her that I had to return to the USA for family reasons. I did, but would have returned in any event. We chat by phone, but I use Skype.

So, it can happen, but regular girls will not simply go with you because you are a foreigner with money, especially if they think you only want some. They get enough of that from the resident brothers. Like with anything, you must have a plan. Now, Charles, Frannie, and others can pull this off, but they reside there. I can do it while on vacation, but it may take the entire week and a story that sticks. Also, I have been to the DR a few times.

[Charles Pooter]

Kindly allow me to slightly disagree with Charles on this one. You can get non-pros, or perhaps semi-pros; however, it will not be an instant thing like picking BB girls. I did so in the capital. It took me a week.We do not disagree in the slightest. Of course what you describe is possible. But you did not read his, or my, post carefully.

He is here only for 4 or 5 days, not a week, and possibly two of those days he will be at Blackbeards. That leaves a maximum of three days in Sosúa (not the capital). Best of luck finding a non-pro in Sosua (of all towns) and wooing her into bed within that period unless he is satisfied with fuglies or middle-age women (over 35 is middle-aged in the DR). By the time he realises he is not getting anywhere his holiday will be over.

[Kitie Carson]

Hey Guys! I just booked for July 21-25 to POP. This is both my wingman and I first trip to D. R. And I'm looking for some feedback on whether to go to BB or Sosua or possibly a combination of the the two. We are pretty much winging it so ANY recommendations would be appreciated. We are thinking about BB first and then Sosua to round out the trip. Please Help! I'm coming to you guys as a humble student of the monger gameFor a 4 day trip you are cutting it close, BUt on my virgin trip to DR I did both and had a great time! I started at BB then hit Sosua for my final 2 nights. Starting at BB is beneficial as to talking to DR chicas and getting a feel. Sosua chicas ARE different but I had a great time in both places! Depending on your nights in Sosua, the clubs may be rocking or dead, but chicas are around even if you have to look for them.

I just returned from a 2 week BB / Sosua visit last Thursday and have already booked me a return trip for Sept. LOL. Love DR!

[Twice Divorced]

JukeJointJay1.

I always suggest to a newbie to the Northcoast that they visit Sosua instead of BB's. Many guys believe that BB's is a perfect introduction for a newbie, but the problem I see with it is that it is too isolated. If your unfortunate enough to be there at a time with others who don't know their way around, or you aren't comfortable with interacting with strangers easily, you will find yourself stuck at BB's until you leave for Sosua. Some guys say that the BB's setup is perfect for the newbie because it's a "point and click" and "shooting fish in a bowl" type of environment. The problem is that the BB's bowl is really small and your choice of fish is extremely limited.

Additionally, Sosua will give you more area to freely and easily roam when you feel the need to spread your wings, and it has a more usable beach with a much greater choice of places to eat. Also, whenever you do Sosua, make sure you're there on a weekend. The weekdays are generally slower than the weekends, as they are in most places, and you might be left with the opinion that Sosua is slow all the time.

Whatever you do, enjoy.

[Tempoecorto]

Whoa! This is truly interesting as we get down to the core. Philosophy of mongering. I see that there are differing views and this is what is stimulating for me.

At a personal level, and based on my experiences in Asia and EU (essentially Germany) , I have two rules:

1. Do not get emotionally involved. I have had situations in which I had to forcibly extricate myself.

2. Do not hurt anyone's feelings.I have walked away on many occasions, when I was not sure if my deal was also the other person's deal.

Needless to say, as all hunters know here, it is much more fun not to fish from a bowl but given the constraints of life, lack of time, the innumerable expectations in a new milieu and the challenges thereof.linguistic and cultural, I am forced to make compromises.

On a practical note, I am now booked on a flight to POP for 7/15 and am angling for BB for the first three nights. Will keep you posted.

Needless to say, I am very thankful for the generosity of all you guys' time!

[Professor 1]

We do not disagree in the slightest. Of course what you describe is possible. But you did not read his, or my, post carefully.

He is here only for 4 or 5 days, not a week, and possibly two of those days he will be at Blackbeards. That leaves a maximum of three days in Sosúa (not the capital). Best of luck finding a non-pro in Sosua (of all towns) and wooing her into bed within that period unless he is satisfied with fuglies or middle-age women (over 35 is middle-aged in the DR). By the time he realises he is not getting anywhere his holiday will be over. LOL. I stand corrected. He did say 2 days at BBs. In that case, skip the dream of a non-pro, and enjoy shooting willing fish in a barrel. :) I did find a semi-pro in Sosua during my last visit, and it was a challenge. :)

[Tempoecorto]

I am now confirmed at BB for the nights of 7/15-17. Getting to POP at 2. 00 PM approx. Hopefully, as most of you recommend, it would be a good primer on the ways of DR after which I would move to Sosua. I have not made any bookings there, I am hoping I can just swing by and decide on the spot. If any of you, especially the local oracle, is around during those days. It is a weekend, I would love your company to shoot the breeze. I also owe a round of drinks.

I have been advised by BB that credit cards have very high fees associated. Was wondering, given that BB is apparently in an isolated area, where would my best bet be in terms of cambio. I do not like airports as they offer you measly rates.

By the way, how good is the Costumber beach. Is there life around there at all?

Thanks always.

[Roger Dodger 007]

. Was wondering, given that BB is apparently in an isolated area, where would my best bet be in terms of cambio. I do not like airports as they offer you measly rates.

By the way, how good is the Costumber beach. Is there life around there at all?

Thanks always. Your best bet is bring dollars and change them in Jenny's supermarket, just inside Costambar. There is also a cambio within walking distance from BB. Come out of BB, turn left then right at the end of the road. Just over the brow of the hill, on the right there is a small cambio.

Not much life at the beach these days as it is getting hot. The Catamaran bar at the far end is doing OK. Also a few of the bars on the road side of the beach, so I'm told. I'm sure you will find enough life in BB to keep you happy!

[TeamHorny]

I am now confirmed at BB for the nights of 7/15-17. Getting to POP at 2. 00 PM approx. Hopefully, as most of you recommend, it would be a good primer on the ways of DR after which I would move to Sosua. I have not made any bookings there, I am hoping I can just swing by and decide on the spot. If any of you, especially the local oracle, is around during those days. It is a weekend, I would love your company to shoot the breeze. I also owe a round of drinks.

I have been advised by BB that credit cards have very high fees associated. Was wondering, given that BB is apparently in an isolated area, where would my best bet be in terms of cambio. I do not like airports as they offer you measly rates.

By the way, how good is the Costumber beach. Is there life around there at all?

Thanks always. I will be at BB's 7/12-7/20 any questions feel free to PM me. This will be trip #8 for me so I think I can help you.

[Frannie]

I am now confirmed at BB for the nights of 7/15-17. Getting to POP at 2. 00 PM approx. Hopefully, as most of you recommend, it would be a good primer on the ways of DR after which I would move to Sosua. I have not made any bookings there, I am hoping I can just swing by and decide on the spot. If any of you, especially the local oracle, is around during those days. It is a weekend, I would love your company to shoot the breeze. I also owe a round of drinks.

I have been advised by BB that credit cards have very high fees associated. Was wondering, given that BB is apparently in an isolated area, where would my best bet be in terms of cambio. I do not like airports as they offer you measly rates.

By the way, how good is the Costumber beach. Is there life around there at all?

Thanks always. You can get good rates at Puerto Plata airport provided that you use the Banco Reservas office or ATM which is on the OUTSIDE concourse at the airport, where you get the taxis, and not INSIDE the airport near the tourist tax counter, which is a ripoff.

There are places within walking distance of Blackbeards where you can change money, alternatively you can take a motoconcho to an ATM.

They prefer not to take credit cards at Blackbeards as they have to pay a fee to the bank, so they want to pass the cost on to you.

Also, if you change money at Banco Reservas, if you keep the receipt, when you are leaving the DR, fi you have currency left over, you can change it back into dollars. The chicas will try to make sure that U-turn over your last Domican peso to them before you leave. However, if you plan to return, you can just take Dominican currency with you and keep it for next time.

[Professor 1]

I have been advised by BB that credit cards have very high fees associated. Was wondering, given that BB is apparently in an isolated area, where would my best bet be in terms of cambio. I do not like airports as they offer you measly rates.

By the way, how good is the Costumber beach. Is there life around there at all?

Thanks always. You may exchange USD at Jenny's Market right inside the Costambar gate. It on the right.

[Tempoecorto]

Sorry Guys, for the belated acknowledgment. Noted the various suggestions including money exchange. I will follow through on those.

Teamhorny: I will send you a PM. Would be lovely to meet up (any others on the island are welcome too during those few days). You must like BB quite a bit given your long sojourn.

I am getting to the POP airport around 2. 00 PM. Any thoughts on taking a ride on the motoconcho to BB? Too far, too dicey? I will be traveling.hopefully only with a backpack. In fact, would have liked to sleep on the beach if there were beach shacks around. I like the rumble of the waves breaking in the darkness.

Gratefully yours

[Charles Pooter]

I am getting to the POP airport around 2.00 PM. Any thoughts on taking a ride on the motoconcho to BB? Too far, too dicey? I will be traveling.hopefully only with a backpack.POP airport is a long way from Puerto Plata (10 miles?) and even further from Costambar (13 miles?). I ride motoconchos a lot, say twenty rides a week on average, but I avoid using them on main roads. Very dangerous. Also for long trips they are not much cheaper than taxis.

If you really want to save money getting to Blackbeards you do this:

1) Walk to the main road from the airport (10 minutes) or take a motoconcho to the main road. 25 pesos.

2) Wait on the airport side of the main road. Traffic to Puerto Plata is moving to your right (westwards). Take a carrito (compact saloon with a red or yellow roof sign saying "Pto Pta. Sosua") or the San Juan to Puerto Plata guagua (people carrying van with those destinations across the windshield). Ask for the Hospital ("Al 'opitál").40 pesos.

3) Immediately before the Hospital in Puerto Plata get out at the traffic lights and you will see a little park or open area with vendor stalls to your right (on your side of the road). At the back of that area you will see taxis waiting. Look for the one with a green sign saying "JC" on the roof. They run about every twenty minutes. This will take you to the main gate in Costambar. 35 pesos.

4) You then have a 25 minute walk to Blackbeards, or take a motoconcho. 50 pesos?

Whether you think that is worth all the hassle I leave to you but it would be a little adventure and introduction to the real DR.

If it is raining take a cab!


In fact, would have liked to sleep on the beach if there were beach shacks around. I like the rumble of the waves breaking in the darkness.If you do this, allow time when you wake up to search for your head in case some passing Haitian has lopped it off with a machete. Not recommended. Even the police would rob you if you did that and feel you were fair game as a bum.

[Tempoecorto]

I do not know if you got the drift but I really love the idea of getting the "real" taste and feel of the place, right from the get go. More so as it is smack in the middle of the day. I am absolutely going to try the little adventure you suggested and the walk will do me good after the airplane. Rain is the only dampener. Literally and otherwise.

Sorry to hear about sleeping on the beach. I earlier in the year, was in Goa, India. There are beach shacks with restaurant / bars all around and I stayed out at night, pissed-drunk and all alone, looking at the waves breaking, with nary an incident!

Tant Pis, comment dit on, en Francais!

[Mr Gogo]

Sorry Guys, for the belated acknowledgment. Noted the various suggestions including money exchange. I will follow through on those.

Teamhorny: I will send you a PM. Would be lovely to meet up (any others on the island are welcome too during those few days). You must like BB quite a bit given your long sojourn.

I am getting to the POP airport around 2. 00 PM. Any thoughts on taking a ride on the motoconcho to BB? Too far, too dicey? I will be traveling. Hopefully only with a backpack. In fact, would have liked to sleep on the beach if there were beach shacks around. I like the rumble of the waves breaking in the darkness.

Gratefully yoursSir Charles gave good directions about the publico taxi, and motorchoncho. But being its your first time (you ask alot of questions) don't catch publico or ride a motorconcho. Spend a little money and gradually grow with the culture. Its about a 35 dollar taxi ride to BB, spend the money. You really get to enjoy the beautiful country side as you ride. The rolling hills with the ocean on the right is refreshing.

I've caught a publico to Costambar after drinking all night in Classicos, and it is an adventure to say the least. And that long walk from the main road up to Costambar was really fucked up. The cows were looking at me and I know they were saying" look at this dumb ass gringo on a budget". Learn the lay of the land before you get to adventurous.

[Professor 1]

I am getting to the POP airport around 2. 00 PM. Any thoughts on taking a ride on the motoconcho to BB? Too far, too dicey? I will be traveling.hopefully only with a backpack. In fact, would have liked to sleep on the beach if there were beach shacks around.Personally, I would NOT take a motoconcho from POP to BBs, even if I had my gear with me. I might ride a bike myself, maybe, but would not ride with a local for that distance. I would want more control of the bike.

[Professor 1]

POP airport is a long way from Puerto Plata (10 miles?) and even further from Costambar (13 miles?). I ride motoconchos a lot, say twenty rides a week on average, but I avoid using them on main roads. Very dangerous. Also for long trips they are not much cheaper than taxis.

If you really want to save money getting to Blackbeards you do this:

1) Walk to the main road from the airport (10 minutes) or take a motoconcho to the main road. 25 pesos.

2) Wait on the airport side of the main road. Traffic to Puerto Plata is moving to your right (westwards). Take a carrito (compact saloon with a red or yellow roof sign saying "Pto Pta. Sosua") or the San Juan to Puerto Plata guagua (people carrying van with those destinations across the windshield). Ask for the Hospital ("Al 'opitál").40 pesos.

3) Immediately before the Hospital in Puerto Plata get out at the traffic lights and you will see a little park or open area with vendor stalls to your right (on your side of the road). At the back of that area you will see taxis waiting. Look for the one with a green sign saying "JC" on the roof. They run about every twenty minutes. This will take you to the main gate in Costambar. 35 pesos.

4) You then have a 25 minute walk to Blackbeards, or take a motoconcho. 50 pesos?

Whether you think that is worth all the hassle I leave to you but it would be a little adventure and introduction to the real DR.

If it is raining take a cab! This is good advice, and very accurate. I use public transit all the time; however, I would suggest using a cab if this is your very first trip. You do not really know where you are going, and you have not seen the route. I do not remember if you speak Spanish or not as well. Charles lives there, so that is nothing for him. Likewise, others and I have made numerous trips. After you get to BBs, you can use this advice to reverse to Sosua, for example, and save some pesos. However, I do not suggest this for a very first run. Also, I have walked from the highway to BBs many times, but you want to see it first. If you have Google Earth, you will see the route but nothing beats a safe, direct first trip.

[Charles Pooter]

Sir Charles gave good directions about the publico taxi, and motorchoncho. But being its your first time (you ask alot of questions) don't catch publico or ride a motorconcho. Spend a little money and gradually grow with the culture. Its about a 35 dollar taxi ride to BB, spend the money. You really get to enjoy the beautiful country side as you ride. The rolling hills with the ocean on the right is refreshing.

I've caught a publico to Costambar after drinking all night in Classicos, and it is an adventure to say the least. And that long walk from the main road up to Costambar was really fucked up. The cows were looking at me and I know they were saying" look at this dumb ass gringo on a budget". Learn the lay of the land before you get to adventurous. I wasn't necessarily recommending it. Just safer and cheaper than his idea of taking a motoconcho.

It is a lot of hassle, and I can see why anyone would want to take a taxi and arrive fresh, but I don't think it is in any way "adventurous". I would not be so irresponsible as to recommend anything risky to a new visitor.

1) The walk to the main road from the airport is a safe walk in the daytime (or he could take a moto to save his legs).

2) Riding publicos and guaguas is safe, especially in the day-time and at that time there probably won't be the usual squash. And, by the way, they are the same rolling hills and the same ocean you can see from public transport as from private taxis, and you don't see much of the ocean anyway. All publicos and guaguas in that direction go to Puerto Plata so he cannot take the wrong one. They should all go to the hospital, but once in a blue moon they enter the town via Luis Ginebra if all the passengers agree. This is very rare, but he should specify "L'opital" when boarding.

3) Making sure he gets out at the right place at the hospital traffic lights is the only point he could go wrong, but he speaks Spanish to ask the driver, and it's daytime.

4) The longish walk within Costambar gated community to Blackbeards is safe, especially in daytime, or he could take a motoconcho. Should be 50 pesos but everyone rips you off in Costambar so they might ask for 100.

Certainly the whole journey is safer than any three minutes spent walking in Sosúa after the clubs close and most of us have done that.

Not all roads in the DR are safe for gringos to walk alone, but the above are. Don't accept lifts from strangers though. I assume our friend is sensible enough to keep his cash and valuables in inside and / or zipped front pockets. I have heard stories of pickpockets on public transport but have never been troubled myself in many hundreds of journeys.

[Stilldontknow]

Hi All.

I'll be travelling, in mid Spetember, to Puerto Plata staying in an AI at Playa Dorada with a group of non mongering friends. I should be able to get away some evenings and afternoons for a a spot of fun. Looking for some advice on what my best mongering options might be. I don't have any Spanish although I will be spending the next couple of months learning some basic vocabulary and phrases. Any and all help would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[Charles Pooter]

Hi All.

I'll be travelling, in mid Spetember, to Puerto Plata staying in an AI at Playa Dorada with a group of non mongering friends. I should be able to get away some evenings and afternoons for a a spot of fun. Looking for some advice on what my best mongering options might be. I don't have any Spanish although I will be spending the next couple of months learning some basic vocabulary and phrases. Any and all help would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. I live in Puerto Plata.

PM me before you arrive and I would be happy to meet you and explain what your best options are and how to get about on public transport without having to pay for expensive Playa Dorada taxis.

Be aware that because you are staying in an AI you are going to have to pay for somewhere to do the deed or use somewhere like Passions where the room is included in the (high) price. You cannot take chicas back to your hotel. But I can explain all that when we meet.

To use the PM service you need to subscribe as a member.

[Orgasmico]

like Passions where the room is included in the (high) price.

Some options in POP like Crystals and El Bohem for onsite or Black Beards where you can go short time, stay over night or you might even catch the bikini contest on the weekends might be some good looks and not too far. There is action all over Puerto Plata so all you need is a cheap spot / cabana or whatever to take a chica.

[Stilldontknow]

I live in Puerto Plata.

PM me before you arrive and I would be happy to meet you and explain what your best options are and how to get about on public transport without having to pay for expensive Playa Dorada taxis.

Be aware that because you are staying in an AI you are going to have to pay for somewhere to do the deed or use somewhere like Passions where the room is included in the (high) price. You cannot take chicas back to your hotel. But I can explain all that when we meet.

To use the PM service you need to subscribe as a member. Many thanks for the kind offer. L'll definitely take you up on that.

I knew taking the girls back to the AI wasn't an option but what I should expect in terms of availability and prices for cabanas would be really useful info. I've lurked on the boards for sometime and got a load of useful information for previous trips to Berlin, Thailand, Prague etc, without needing to ask anything specific. Given the fairly limited opportunities my travel circumstances impose I thought, rather than risk wasting my time on avoidable mistakes, I'd take advantage of you guys experience. I definitely intend getting a trip report posted and hopefully some pics too.

[Tempoecorto]

Ahead of my trip, I have been trying to get in touch with potentials (of PP) online and I have come across some interesting things plus my goof-ups that I wanted to check with you. Last night, it was madhouse, as I was trying to field two chats, and that in Spanish.

1. Three of the four women are in some university or other. One is in Santiago (one hour away by bus) the other two. Elsewhere. I did not catch the name.

2. The first one told me she does not need to go every day.

3. The other two apparently are not continuing with their Med school. At least for now (one is working in a salon. Could not figure out if it is a hair salon or what, another helps with a garment store). When I asked what they studied, anatomy etc, they were rather non-committal which was surprising for me. A serious student, I would like to think would have more than that to say. At least I did, in my time but I was a "stupid" nerd.

4. They all grilled me a lot about my personal status etc. One especially grilled me as to why I want to see her? Because of language, I had also screwed up. One older woman asked me (eres casado o soltero). I as an idiot, was using google translate, and soltero was translated as "maiden" (not bachelor). So I thought she is telling me of her status. That she is a maiden and wrote "ok". Little did I understand she was quizzing me and after my bungled answer, she left in a huff. Too bad!

5. They all wanted to know which hotel I was staying and this was a challenge for me and so I dodged around. I am not even sure if they can be brought to BB if I wanted to or it would be a serious affront. I seriously will have to figure this one of location.

Overall, I am somewhat confused about the pedigree of these so-called online people. One actually wrote some English and I think she does speak some. The other two at Med school were I thought iffy in terms of their intellectual curiosity. I wonder if these are as much of gold-diggers as the much maligned working women in Sosua or they were hedging their bets, like all would.

Your reflections invited.

Thanks.

[Charles Pooter]

ahead of my trip, i have been trying to get in touch with potentials (of pp) online and i have come across some interesting things plus my goof-ups that i wanted to check with you. last night, it was madhouse, as i was trying to field two chats, and that in spanish.

1. three of the four women are in some university or other. one is in santiago (one hour away by bus) the other two. elsewhere. i did not catch the name.

2. the first one told me she does not need to go every day.

3. the other two apparently are not continuing with their med school. at least for now (one is working in a salon. could not figure out if it is a hair salon or what, another helps with a garment store). when i asked what they studied, anatomy etc, they were rather non-committal which was surprising for me. a serious student, i would like to think would have more than that to say. at least i did, in my time but i was a "stupid" nerd.

4. they all grilled me a lot about my personal status etc. one especially grilled me as to why i want to see her? because of language, i had also screwed up. one older woman asked me (eres casado o soltero). i as an idiot, was using google translate, and soltero was translated as "maiden" (not bachelor). so i thought she is telling me of her status. that she is a maiden and wrote "ok". little did i understand she was quizzing me and after my bungled answer, she left in a huff. too bad!

5. they all wanted to know which hotel i was staying and this was a challenge for me and so i dodged around. i am not even sure if they can be brought to bb if i wanted to or it would be a serious affront. i seriously will have to figure this one of location.

overall, i am somewhat confused about the pedigree of these so-called online people. one actually wrote some english and i think she does speak some. the other two at med school were i thought iffy in terms of their intellectual curiosity. i wonder if these are as much of gold-diggers as the much maligned working women in sosua or they were hedging their bets, like all would.

your reflections invited.

thanks.not sure what you are trying to do here or why.

(1) if you think you are saving money by fucking non-putas you will be unpleasantly surprised. your average expenditure per fuck will be double.

(2) if you want to have a gfe relationship with a non-puta you are doomed to failure without some spanish. and "decent" girls would not be impressed by your taking them back to a brothel like bb.

(3) depends which dating site you are on. they vary, but overall 90% of the chicas are putas or semi-putas. and 99% are liars. they mostly claim to be students (and most of those, for some reason i have never worked out, claim to be medical students). on the other hand, being a genuine student in this country is not like in the first world.

as you walk around the dr you see many unfinished buildings with the metalwork rusting. after some time here i realised they are not abandoned, but the developer will go back to them as soon as they have scraped together enough money to do a bit more work, after which they lie unfinished for a few more months or years.

university studies are the same. the students attend for a bit and pick up a credit or two then drop out until they have earned enough money to take some more courses, which could be months or years later. i don't have to tell you the favorite method for earning that money. so there is no firm dividing line between students and putas. it depends what phase of the cycle they are in as to which hat they are wearing.

(4) yes, you can take who you like back to blackbeards but females will require good-quality identification as proof of age (even if they look 50), original passports or cedulas (not photocopies). i think it is a dumb idea though and won't make you popular with the bb management and chicas.

(5) one of the two universities in pto pta is utesa which is the technical university of santiago, so there may have been some misunderstanding with that chica. (by the way, i don't know if this is a branch of the original university in santiago, or whether the latter moved lock, stock and barrel to pto pta. can anyone enlighten me?)

[Tempoecorto]

Not sure what you are trying to do here or why.

(1) If you think you are saving money by fucking non-putas you will be unpleasantly surprised. Your average expenditure per fuck will be double.

(3) Depends which dating site you are on. They vary, but overall 90% of the chicas are putas or semi-putas. And 99% are liars. They mostly claim to be students (and most of those, for some reason I have never worked out, claim to be medical students). On the other hand, being a genuine student in this country is not like in the first world.

University studies are the same. The students attend for a bit and pick up a credit or two then drop out until they have earned enough money to take some more courses, which could be months or years later. I don't have to tell you the favorite method for earning that money. So there is no firm dividing line between students and putas. It depends what phase of the cycle they are in as to which hat they are wearing.

(4) Yes, you can take who you like back to Blackbeards but females will require good-quality identification as proof of age (even if they look 50) , original passports or cedulas (not photocopies). I think it is a dumb idea though and won't make you popular with the BB management and chicas.

(5) One of the two universities in Pto Pta is UTESA which is the Technical University of Santiago, so there may have been some misunderstanding with that chica. (By the way, I don't know if this is a branch of the original university in Santiago, or whether the latter moved lock, stock and barrel to Pto Pta. Can anyone enlighten me?) 1. Thanks for blowing my bubble! (smile)

3. Yes, Medicine. Of all things, huh! One wonders; Also very apt parallel of yours with the construction industry in terms of how a student does in the DR.

4. Got it, BB is a no-no. (smile)

5. It was UTESA. Which I was told has a campus in Santiago and another in PP. From two horses' mouth, ahem computadora! I swear!

[Professor 1]

1. Three of the four women are in some university or other. One is in Santiago (one hour away by bus) the other two. Elsewhere. I did not catch the name.

For all you know, they could be beeper chicas passing as university chicas. Do not think that these chicas do not have game.


3. The other two apparently are not continuing with their Med school. At least for now (one is working in a salon).

I find it hard to believe that a chica would go from a med student to a salon worker. The divide appears too great. I could be wrong.


4. They all grilled me a lot about my personal status etc. One especially grilled me as to why I want to see her? Because of language, I had also screwed up. One older woman asked me (eres casado o soltero). I as an idiot, was using google translate, and soltero was translated as "maiden" (not bachelor). So I thought she is telling me of her status. That she is a maiden and wrote "ok". Little did I understand she was quizzing me and after my bungled answer, she left in a huff. Too bad!

You must have a plan. They have one. I tell them the truth, as it is at the time. I am a university professor on leave looking for a teaching opportunity locally. I have friends on the North Coast. Hi Charles, Ponderosa. :) I am single, and will be in town for 2 to 3 weeks. Even if I only stay for a weekend, I am there for "2 to 3 weeks."


5. They all wanted to know which hotel I was staying and this was a challenge for me and so I dodged around. I am not even sure if they can be brought to BB if I wanted to or it would be a serious affront. I seriously will have to figure this one of location.

I stay in apartments. Sometimes I take the girl back, sometimes I do not. It depends on the conversation. I would NEVER take a girl to BBs. In fact, I never heard of BBs. What is it? Really? I have never been to Sosua. Why would a respectable university professor be caught dead there? Perhaps, one of my local friends will take me there. You have to have some game. I may start tutoring English there next trip to supplement my university salary.


Overall, I am somewhat confused about the pedigree of these so-called online people. One actually wrote some English and I think she does speak some. The other two at Med school were I thought iffy in terms of their intellectual curiosity. I wonder if these are as much of gold-diggers as the much maligned working women in Sosua or they were hedging their bets, like all would.

There are not much different from many on this board. Do not think for a minute that all poor girls lack intellect. They are some of the brightest around. Their circumstances restrict them, not their brains. Just ask the guys who pay RD$3,000 for ST to a girl in Sosua.

[Manizales911]

For all you know, they could be beeper chicas passing as university chicas. Do not think that these chicas do not have game.

I find it hard to believe that a chica would go from a med student to a salon worker. The divide appears too great. I could be wrong.

You must have a plan. They have one. I tell them the truth, as it is at the time. I am a university professor on leave looking for a teaching opportunity locally. I have friends on the North Coast. Hi Charles, Ponderosa. I am single, and will be in town for 2 to 3 weeks. Even if I only stay for a weekend, I am there for "2 to 3 weeks."

I stay in apartments. Sometimes I take the girl back, sometimes I do not. It depends on the conversation. I would NEVER take a girl to BBs. In fact, I never heard of BBs. What is it? Really? I have never been to Sosua. Why would a respectable university professor be caught dead there? Perhaps, one of my local friends will take me there. You have to have some game. I may start tutoring English there next trip to supplement my university salary.

There are not much different from many on this board. Do not think for a minute that all poor girls lack intellect. They are some of the brightest around. Their circumstances restrict them, not their brains. Just ask the guys who pay Road$3, 000 for ST to a girl in Sosua.Excellent advise in every regard Professor, especially your last comment. These girls might not know how to read or write but they can and will out hussle the average gringo with one hand tied behind their back.

[BlackSultan]

Excellent advise in every regard Professor, especially your last comment. These girls might not know how to read or write but they can and will out hussle the average gringo with one hand tied behind their back.And many have the looks and the good pussy to pull it off.

[Berthold]

not sure what you are trying to do here or why.

(1) if you think you are saving money by fucking non-putas you will be unpleasantly surprised. your average expenditure per fuck will be double.

(2) if you want to have a gfe relationship with a non-puta you are doomed to failure without some spanish. and "decent" girls would not be impressed by your taking them back to a brothel like bb.

(3) depends which dating site you are on. they vary, but overall 90% of the chicas are putas or semi-putas. and 99% are liars. they mostly claim to be students (and most of those, for some reason i have never worked out, claim to be medical students). on the other hand, being a genuine student in this country is not like in the first world.

as you walk around the dr you see many unfinished buildings with the metalwork rusting. after some time here i realised they are not abandoned, but the developer will go back to them as soon as they have scraped together enough money to do a bit more work, after which they lie unfinished for a few more months or years.

university studies are the same. the students attend for a bit and pick up a credit or two then drop out until they have earned enough money to take some more courses, which could be months or years later. i don't have to tell you the favorite method for earning that money. so there is no firm dividing line between students and putas. it depends what phase of the cycle they are in as to which hat they are wearing.

(4) yes, you can take who you like back to blackbeards but females will require good-quality identification as proof of age (even if they look 50) , original passports or cedulas (not photocopies). i think it is a dumb idea though and won't make you popular with the bb management and chicas.

(5) one of the two universities in pto pta is utesa which is the technical university of santiago, so there may have been some misunderstanding with that chica. (by the way, i don't know if this is a branch of the original university in santiago, or whether the latter moved lock, stock and barrel to pto pta. can anyone enlighten me?) utesa is a branch you going to find utesa in santiago, pto pta, santo domingo. the same with o&m which are privtate universities. being a student in the d. r. can be interesting sometimes, grades get lost, power blackouts, strikes, the professors do not show up at all or 1 hour later.

studying in the d. r. is cheap the uni fees at uasd a public uni start at 200 pesos for example, but you will have to deal with alot of bullshit.

pucmm is considered the havard of the d. r uni fees start at 30000 pesos round about.

i know alot of people you call utesa actually putesa.

[Charles Pooter]

UTESA is a branch you going to find UTESA in Santiago, Pto Pta, Santo Domingo . I know alot of people you call UTESA actually PUTESA.LOL. And thanks for answering my question.

[Bliadun]

How was your experience with Chantal in BB?

She seems like a doll, but what about performance?

BBBJ, anal?

[DJ FourMoney]

not sure what you are trying to do here or why.

(1) if you think you are saving money by fucking non-putas you will be unpleasantly surprised. your average expenditure per fuck will be double.

(2) if you want to have a gfe relationship with a non-puta you are doomed to failure without some spanish. and "decent" girls would not be impressed by your taking them back to a brothel like bb.

(3) depends which dating site you are on. they vary, but overall 90% of the chicas are putas or semi-putas. and 99% are liars. they mostly claim to be students (and most of those, for some reason i have never worked out, claim to be medical students). on the other hand, being a genuine student in this country is not like in the first world.

as you walk around the dr you see many unfinished buildings with the metalwork rusting. after some time here i realised they are not abandoned, but the developer will go back to them as soon as they have scraped together enough money to do a bit more work, after which they lie unfinished for a few more months or years.

university studies are the same. the students attend for a bit and pick up a credit or two then drop out until they have earned enough money to take some more courses, which could be months or years later. i don't have to tell you the favorite method for earning that money. so there is no firm dividing line between students and putas. it depends what phase of the cycle they are in as to which hat they are wearing.

(4) yes, you can take who you like back to blackbeards but females will require good-quality identification as proof of age (even if they look 50) , original passports or cedulas (not photocopies). i think it is a dumb idea though and won't make you popular with the bb management and chicas.

(5) one of the two universities in pto pta is utesa which is the technical university of santiago, so there may have been some misunderstanding with that chica. (by the way, i don't know if this is a branch of the original university in santiago, or whether the latter moved lock, stock and barrel to pto pta. can anyone enlighten me?) 1) are you always trying to impress the women you date with money? i thought that only applied to a majority of american women and a few europeans?

2) so the best looking chicas don't speak english? i find that hard to believe. i would believe the majority of good looking chicas indeed speak only spanish. that said why are they wanting to hook up with a westerner then?

3) this likely has some truth too it, happens in eastern european countries too. how many "students" were fine with you taking them home and give them $50-$100 the next morning? i turned a "student" down in kiev because i just didn't see her that way. having said that, i think that's a bit much to believe a majority of women on dating sites are semi-putas or pure putas.

my. 02

[Tempoecorto]

UTESA is a branch you going to find UTESA in Santiago, Pto Pta, Santo Domingo. The same with O&M which are privtate universities. Being a student in the D. R. Can be interesting sometimes, grades get lost, power blackouts, strikes, the professors do not show up at all or 1 hour later.

Studying in the D. R. Is cheap the uni fees at UASD a public uni start at 200 pesos for example, but you will have to deal with alot of bullshit.

PUCMM is considered the havard of the D. R uni fees start at 30000 pesos round about.

I know alot of people you call UTESA actually PUTESA.Great closing line. (big smiley). BTW, I remembered the name of the place / universtity where the other girl goes / used to go to: MAO? I thought there was something familiar about the name when I first heard it.

[Tempoecorto]

I read the posts but am not certain of the latest situation. A quick question: Is it better to use my US phone (it is unlocked) with a local sim card or get a new phone locally without it costing an arm and a leg? My US phone is android / GSM and of course, I am used to it. A second phone means learning the ropes again. Just for one week. My goal is just to make / receive local calls plus call US. What would you the savvy, recommend please and which carrier? I read about this top up issues as well.

I am flying to PP; it would be great if the phone thing can be fixed before I leave the airport if feasible. Thanks in advance for your time.

[Roger Dodger 007]

I read the posts but am not certain of the latest situation. A quick question: Is it better to use my US phone (it is unlocked) with a local sim card or get a new phone locally without it costing an arm and a leg? My US phone is android / GSM and of course, I am used to it. A second phone means learning the ropes again. Just for one week. My goal is just to make / receive local calls plus call US. What would you the savvy, recommend please and which carrier? I read about this top up issues as well.

I am flying to PP; it would be great if the phone thing can be fixed before I leave the airport if feasible. Thanks in advance for your time.As far as I am aware there is no place to purchase a sim card at the airport. If I were you, I would check in to where you are staying (is it BB?) and at the first opportunity take a motoconcho to an Orange shop (he'll know where to go) and buy a Pay as U Go simple cell phone. (take your passport) Costs less than 1000 pesos. Don't take your US phone out with you! It will be too much of a temptation for someone to nick it!

Oh, you can always get a chica to show you how to use it if you don't understand. (Good chatup line, if you need one.)

Dodger

[Manizales911]

As far as I am aware there is no place to purchase a sim card at the airport. If I were you, I would check in to where you are staying (is it BB?) and at the first opportunity take a motoconcho to an Orange shop (he'll know where to go) and buy a Pay as U Go simple cell phone. (take your passport) Costs less than 1000 pesos. Don't take your US phone out with you! It will be too much of a temptation for someone to nick it!

Oh, you can always get a chica to show you how to use it if you don't understand. (Good chatup line, if you need one.)

DodgerUnless things have changed recently Orange will not sell a phone and / or a sim card to foreigners anymore due to lack of available numbers. That said, they recently added another area code (849) which would have made available more numbers but I don't know if they changed their policy, just go with Claro instead.

[Charles Pooter]

Unless things have changed recently Orange will not sell a phone and / or a sim card to foreigners anymore due to lack of available numbers.I didn't know that. But I know you can hire a celular from their Sosúa shop (roughly near Banco Popular) because my friends from England visiting for two weeks recently did just that. You need to leave a refundable deposit and don't leave it to the very last minute to hand the phone in and reclaim your deposit in case there is a queue or they are closed for lunch or some other stupid reason.

Or just go Claro. I think my friends went Orange because Claro doesn't work where they were staying. They each have their own bad areas for reception so I carry both but obviously if you are just on holiday that would be silly.

[Jaosousa]

I didn't know that. But I know you can hire A celular from their Sosúa shop (roughly near Banco Popular) because my friends from England visiting for two weeks recently did just that. You need to leave a refundable deposit and don't leave it to the very last minute to hand the phone in and reclaim your deposit in case there is a queue or they are closed for lunch or some other stupid reason.

Or just go Claro. I think my friends went Orange because Claro doesn't work where they were staying. They each have their own bad areas for reception so I carry both but obviously if you are just on holiday that would be silly.I read somewhere online, that for calls to Europe from the DR, Orange was supposedly better. I prefer Claro.

[Roger Dodger 007]

Unless things have changed recently Orange will not sell a phone and / or a sim card to foreigners anymore due to lack of available numbers. That said, they recently added another area code (849) which would have made available more numbers but I don't know if they changed their policy, just go with Claro instead.I purchased a phone from Orange in March no problem, on production of a British passport. Yes, the new number was an 849.

[Manizales911]

I purchased a phone from Orange in March no problem, on production of a British passport. Yes, the new number was an 849.That is what I thought might happen, I went to three Orange shops prior to them releasing the new area code and they wouldn't sell me a phone due to lack of available numbers. I'm no mathematician but a new area code creates like a million new numbers so problem solved.

[Tempoecorto]

I purchased a phone from Orange in March no problem, on production of a British passport. Yes, the new number was an 849.Thanks Jaosousa, Manizales, Charles Pooter and Roger Dodger for your time and feedback. This is a big help. I will now do the reality check.

Thanks again,

Tempo

[Roger Dodger 007]

There was a guy who used to sell Pay-as-you-Go phones around Costambar, the beach and BB. His price was 600 pesos which included 100 pesos call time. I have his phone number. If anyone is interested, PM me.

Dodger

[Jaosousa]

There was a guy who used to sell Pay-as-you-Go phones around Costambar, the beach and BB. His price was 600 pesos which included 100 pesos call time. I have his phone number. If anyone is interested, PM me.

DodgerJust about all the cell phones chicas use in DR are pay as you go.

Claro and Orange cell brand new pay as you go cell phones with minutes included starting at 200 pesos.

[John Dough]

I haven't been there. I assume these videos are of Blackbeards resort.

Pool area. Just like a school dance. Girls on one side, boys on the other.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe25zy_barbanegra-las-chicas-en-la-piscina_creation

Bikini contest. School was never like this.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe531f_barbanegra-show-bikini-ganadora_people

[DrSexalot]

Ummm I need a little help, I'm going through dominican / blackbeard withdrawal. I've developed this nervous twitch that the doctor said can only be resolved by spending 7 or more days in "Pussyland," aka Dominican Republic. The earliest that I can return would be January. I need help! Are there any support groups I can join?

[Charles Pooter]

I haven't been there. I assume these videos are of Blackbeards resort.

Pool area. Just like a school dance. Girls on one side, boys on the other.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe25zy_barbanegra-las-chicas-en-la-piscina_creation

Bikini contest. School was never like this.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe531f_barbanegra-show-bikini-ganadora_peopleYes, that is Barba Negra during one of their bikini contests. Some of the guys shown might be pissed at appearing on the internet. Some people want to keep their privacy. Taking videos is forbidden at Blackbeards. Not sure what they would do about it if you are caught though.

[Roger Dodger 007]

Ummm I need a little help, I'm going through dominican / blackbeard withdrawal. I've developed this nervous twitch that the doctor said can only be resolved by spending 7 or more days in "Pussyland," aka Dominican Republic. The earliest that I can return would be January. I need help! Are there any support groups I can join?Yeah! You are already a member of the best group going. The ISG! How do you think I get by when away from DR? Only by reading reports and checking out the gallery for Dominican chicas!

Dodger

[Kitie Carson]

Yes, that is Barba Negra during one of their bikini contests. Some of the guys shown might be pissed at appearing on the internet. Some people want to keep their privacy. Taking videos is forbidden at Blackbeards. Not sure what they would do about it if you are caught though.Don't know when the last time you were there Pooter, but Videos during the bikini contests are allowed. Just no private video allowed. I was there in Jan and June this year.

They do ask you not to post online, but some people just don't know how to abide by that.

[Manizales911]

Don't know when the last time you were there Pooter, but Videos during the bikini contests are allowed. Just no private video allowed. I was there in Jan and June this year.

They do ask you not to post online, but some people just don't know how to abide by that.Kitie, explain to me the difference between private video and whatever it is that you think is allowed because if my memory serves me correctly there are signs saying NO VIDEO ALLOWED posted everywhere in BB's.

[Charles Pooter]

Don't know when the last time you were there Pooter, but Videos during the bikini contests are allowed. Just no private video allowed. I was there in Jan and June this year.

They do ask you not to post online, but some people just don't know how to abide by that.I was there last Saturday for the Bikini Contest. (Let me rephrase that. I was there last Saturday to visit friends and the Bikini Contest, which was of nil interest to me, happened to be on. As my friends were both judges I had no option but to wait).

The Mistress of Ceremonies called out "No videos, please!" every time a chica came out plus several other times. (John and Tim were next to her so they clearly endorsed this).

16 contestants + one parade + 10 + another parade + 5 (they drag the whole thing out too much) + a few more warnings = around 40 warnings via P. A. System.

Plus the large signs in various places. Certainly made the requirement clear to me. Maybe it takes more to get through to some people.

[BlackSultan]

Yes, that is Barba Negra during one of their bikini contests. Some of the guys shown might be pissed at appearing on the internet. Some people want to keep their privacy. Taking videos is forbidden at Blackbeards. Not sure what they would do about it if you are caught though.They would probably ask you to leave.

[Mr Gogo]

Ummm I need a little help, I'm going through dominican / blackbeard withdrawal. I've developed this nervous twitch that the doctor said can only be resolved by spending 7 or more days in "Pussyland," aka Dominican Republic. The earliest that I can return would be January. I need help! Are there any support groups I can join?Yeah there is the "old Sosua" rehab facility in Idaho. Coolie just graduated but they found him drinking Presidentes and riding a motoconcho in NY. So he was sent back to Idaho.

Real talk, if you go a few pages back in the Gogo forum, there are Black Beards videos, with faces edited for your enjoyment. Enough to hold you till January.

[BogieMaker]

Yeah there is the "old Sosua" rehab facility in Idaho. Coolie just graduated but they found him drinking Presidentes and riding a motoconcho in NY. So he was sent back to Idaho.

Real talk, if you go a few pages back in the Gogo forum, there are Black Beards videos, with faces edited for your enjoyment. Enough to hold you till January.I am currently in Idaho rehabbing from my last DR vacation. Couple more months and I should be good to go.

At least I am not in Utah.

[Traveler04]

Let me start by saying I watched the video and enjoyed it. Some very fond memories. I will also agree that it is dragged out so long that after having seen a couple of contests they do get old fast. The up side is there are always a few girls I have not seen that show up. BB's does a good job stopping most of the videos etc. You can never stop it all but I do appreciate their efforts. Thanks Tim and John. My concern (and the concern of many) is having my face (or the faces of anyone else that is trying to fly under the radar) in the background of pictures that are posted online. You know as well as I do that once a picture is out there online it is out forever.

Please think before posting.

[Bennn]

I am planning a week vacation in Puerto Plata.

Few questions with your permission.

How are the bars and the girls in Puerto Plata?

Is someone familiar with the Be Live Grand Marien?

It is an all-inclusive resort near Puerto Plata.

How friendly is the resort to ladies visitors (not a Guest)?

What are the options to get from Puerto Plata to Sosua?

Thanks

[Roger Dodger 007]

I am planning a week vacation in Puerto Plata.

Few questions with your permission.

How are the bars and the girls in Puerto Plata?

Is someone familiar with the Be Live Grand Marien?

It is an all-inclusive resort near Puerto Plata.

How friendly is the resort to ladies visitors (not a Guest)?

What are the options to get from Puerto Plata to Sosua?

ThanksNothing wrong with "Be Live Grand Marien" if you are bringing your family for an All Inclusive holiday. It is in the Costa Dorada complex. If you are coming alone to P4P, forget it. Stick to a tried and tested venue like Barba Negra (BB) if you are a newbie.

Dodger

[Charles Pooter]

I am planning a week vacation in Puerto Plata.

Few questions with your permission.

How are the bars and the girls in Puerto Plata?

Is someone familiar with the Be Live Grand Marien?

It is an all-inclusive resort near Puerto Plata.

How friendly is the resort to ladies visitors (not a Guest)?

What are the options to get from Puerto Plata to Sosua?

ThanksRoger Dodger gives good advice. To advise you further we need to know the purpose of your trip and with whom you are coming (if anyone). If with wife / girlfriend / family / non-monger friends, then an AI is your best and most economical option. If you want a conventional holiday (beach, bar, bit of sight-seeing, and just one or two sex adventures) then again AI is your best option. Grand Marien has a refurbished disco and new (small) Casino if that is your thing, but there are many other AIs to choose from, including a couple in Sosúa.

If you are coming alone, or with like-minded friends, mainly to monger, for two or more sessions with working girls a day, then you might find AIs don't work out cheaper and they are certainly more hassle. You would be better off staying in a chica-friendly hotel in Sosúa where you could also enjoy the advantage of good advice from more experienced mongers.

You will not be permitted to take chicas back to an AI.

Very cheap and easy to get from Puerto Plata to Sosúa. Gran Marien is near the main road with publicos (shared taxis) running every few minutes (45 pesos, about US$1. 20) one way. 25 minutes ride.

Bars and girls in Puerto Plata are fine, but much more spread out across a far bigger town than Sosúa so harder for a newbie to find his way around, and you would need to ride motoconchos (motor-cycle taxis). Are you comfortable with that, because they are dangerous? Or spend a fortune on taxis. Pto Pta has the edge if you are looking for non-working girls, but you will need some Spanish (and other assets) to make any progress. If you just want to experience typical Dominican nightlife, then Pto Pta is a bit more of a "normal" town than Sosúa which mainly survives off ex-pats and prostitution.

[Bennn]

Thanks to Roger dodger 007 and Charles Pooter for the helpful answers.

I am a solo traveler, speak basic+ Spanish and can handle myself.

The reason I chose the AI is that I have a deal option ($30 a night for a really big nice room) when it is usually $100+ for the same room.

The "girls friendly" hotels like the BB, NG or Casa Valeria are charging $55-$60 a night for the most basic rooms (some even without AC).

I will try to find some kind of a solution to this problem.

I did understand there is a way to hang with the girls inside the clubs / bars though it is less recommended

[Lakeside32]

Boy what wouldn't I give to be surrounded by the lovely ladies of Blackbeards right now. I've been trying to make my return trip back to D. R. for months now, and I must say if the NFL season doesn't start on time my business will suffer. But if it does the end of Oct or Nov I will be returning. American Airlines had a Caribbean sale and I hopin it rolls back around before then. This time I'm renting a car and goin to Sosua and maybe doing 2 nights at Blackbeards. So how's Sosua right about now?

[Charles Pooter]

The reason I chose the AI is that I have a deal option ($30 a night for a really big nice room) when it is usually $100+ for the same room.

The "girls friendly" hotels like the BB, NG or Casa Valeria are charging $55-$60 a night for the most basic rooms (some even without AC).I agree that is a tempting offer. But even if you saved US$45 a day as against a nice US$75 room in Sosúa, that is only 1710 pesos. If you have to go everywhere by taxi and book cabañas to do the girls then that would take a big chunk out of your saving. And if you start taking chicas out of Cristal or El Bohen, or even do them in the squalid little cubby-holes in the clubs, you would be losing nett. But if you roll another way, using publicos and motoconchos and finding your chicas in cheaper clubs then, yes, you could save money provided you like the food and drinks you get included in the AI.


I did understand there is a way to hang with the girls inside the clubs / bars though it is less recommendedNot sure what you mean here. Do you mean hang with chicas inside the AI? Of course you can do that if they are guests or outsiders who have found their way in. But I think you would be lucky to get them into your room, and if they are putas they would probably be expensive so you would lose your saving.

Or do you mean fuck the chicas inside their clubs? Yes, you can do that. In the "posh" clubs the rooms are squalid. That would spoil my enjoyment. In the cheaper bars the rooms are. Let's not go there! Those arrangements are meant for Dominicans, not gringos.

[DownTowner]

Roger Dogger007 and Sir Charles helped me put this together.




http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=206366800538604506551.0004a743912bb562c4b35

[Charles Pooter]

Roger Dogger007 and Sir Charles helped me put this together.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=206366800538604506551.0004a743912bb562c4b35Actually I think my only contribution was to point you towards Roger Dodger. I am glad he was able to help you.

There is loads of stuff I could add to the map for Puerto Plata but I haven't got a clue how to do it, being cyber illiterate. If you could point me to some instructions on adding stuff I can gradually add places as and when I have time.

I never use Google Maps so there is something I don't understand here. Presumably you are not altering the original and definitive Google Map of Puerto Plata that everyone sees? If that were possible, vandals could soon mess it up with misleading info, obscene comments, etc. But if you are creating a customized version of interest to mongers, how will anyone ever know it exists? Is there some sort of online directory of Google Map versions?

[Jaosousa]

Actually I think my only contribution was to point you towards Roger Dodger. I am glad he was able to help you.

There is loads of stuff I could add to the map for Puerto Plata but I haven't got a clue how to do it, being cyber illiterate. If you could point me to some instructions on adding stuff I can gradually add places as and when I have time.

I never use Google Maps so there is something I don't understand here. Presumably you are not altering the original and definitive Google Map of Puerto Plata that everyone sees? If that were possible, vandals could soon mess it up with misleading info, obscene comments, etc. But if you are creating a customized version of interest to mongers, how will anyone ever know it exists? Is there some sort of online directory of Google Map versions?Anyone can make a customized google map, with points of interest and comments. The map will have its own link and you can name it what you want. Boricua Online made a very good google custom map for santo domingo with hotels, restaurants and pay for play venues pinned and comments added. To edit someone else's map, you would need the sign in info to edit the map. Anyone can see and a read a custom google map, people with the sign in info can edit it.

You can search in Google Maps for custom google maps, lots of people have used the base google map for whatever location or whatever city and created their own custom maps with locations pinned and comments added. The underlying base map stays the same, the only changes are the pin locations and comments a person adds to his map.

[Roger Dodger 007]

Roger Dogger007 and Sir Charles helped me put this together.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=206366800538604506551.0004a743912bb562c4b35There are a couple of corrections you need to make. The Dollar sign ($) is actually the location of a Cambio. You missed off the ATM location, which is on the main highway at El Provocon near the University.

Incidentally, El Provocon is not a bad place to sit and have a beer and maybe hook up with chicas coming from the University. It's been done before and the cabanas are just down the road.

Dodger

[Hillbilly69]

Ic.


Anyone can make a customized google map, with points of interest and comments. The map will have its own link and you can name it what you want. Boricua Online made a very good google custom map for santo domingo with hotels, restaurants and pay for play venues pinned and comments added. To edit someone else's map, you would need the sign in info to edit the map. Anyone can see and a read a custom google map, people with the sign in info can edit it.

You can search in Google Maps for custom google maps, lots of people have used the base google map for whatever location or whatever city and created their own custom maps with locations pinned and comments added. The underlying base map stays the same, the only changes are the pin locations and comments a person adds to his map.But you have a choice to make private or public. Anyone can not access your map unless they have the link on private, which is good. I am still waiting for you to make a DR google map.

Someone spent alot of time making a guide for Puerto Plata with pics etc, quite frankly it confused me and I have visited those places, I wish he would have made a google map instead.

Another thing you must get a Free Google email account to make Google map which is required to look at Youtube now.

[BlackSultan]

With my wingman. For a number of days. We just don't want to deal with the bullshit going on in Sosua right now.

[Mr Gogo]

With my wingman. For a number of days. We just don't want to deal with the bullshit going on in Sosua right now.We are going to just miss each other. But ill see you in Medellin later this year.

Sosua is not the same as the last time we hung out. Sitting at 4 roses bar drinking mamaguanas, watching all the pussy walking by during the day. Grabbing a chica running to Europa for a quickie then back to 4roses waiting on the next group to walk by.

[Charles Pooter]

Anyone can make a customized google map, with points of interest and comments. The map will have its own link and you can name it what you want. Boricua Online made a very good google custom map for santo domingo with hotels, restaurants and pay for play venues pinned and comments added. To edit someone else's map, you would need the sign in info to edit the map. Anyone can see and a read a custom google map, people with the sign in info can edit it.

You can search in Google Maps for custom google maps, lots of people have used the base google map for whatever location or whatever city and created their own custom maps with locations pinned and comments added. The underlying base map stays the same, the only changes are the pin locations and comments a person adds to his map.Many thanks for this very detailed and understandable reply. What I think happened was that DownTowner asked me to help but did not supply the "sign in" info. Anytime he cares to do that I can start adding Puerto Plata locations.




Someone spent alot of time making a guide for Puerto Plata with pics etc, quite frankly it confused me and I have visited those places, I wish he would have made a google map instead.

Another thing you must get a Free Google email account to make Google map which is required to look at Youtube now.More very helpful information. Thank you.

I started an illustrated guide to Puerto Plata for mongers and posted lots of stuff on another board. Because of my charity school involvement, and then being unfit all through the school holidays when I had planned to update and extend it, it has got a bit out-of-date, though as Puerto Plata is nearly dead as a mongering center things have not changed all that much over the last year.

Not sure if it was my effort that HB69 is referring to? If so, he is absolutely right, it badly needs a map or maps, but they can be a lot of work. If DownTowner lets me work on his map and link to it on my online guide I could do that. No point in two people covering the same ground. If he doesn't fancy that idea, then I could perhaps add my own Google Map to my guide once I find out how to do it. Don't hold your breath on either option, though, I have a lot on my plate right now.

[Hillbilly69]

Get Google Email, log into Google search for Puerto Plata map, up in left hand corner it says My Places, click that link then start your map.

[Jaosousa]

Ic.

I am still waiting for you to make a DR google map.No problem.

Higuey, Boca de Yuma, Bayahibe, La Romana, Juan Dolio, Santo Domingo, San Cristobal, San Pedro de Marcoris, Bonao, La Vega, Moca and Santiago will have locations pinned on my google DR map.

[Charles Pooter]

Get Google Email, log into Google search for Puerto Plata map, up in left hand corner it says My Places, click that link then start your map.OK, thanks. That could be fun.

[DownTowner]

"What I think happened was that DownTowner asked me to help but did not supply the "sign in" info. Anytime he cares to do that I can start adding Puerto Plata locations."

I changed the map so anyone can edit it, I can also add people as Collaboraters if they PM me an e-mail address.

[Member #4244]

Ahoy hoy, I'll be posting some reports in other forums shortly that I hope you all find helpful (several in the Colombia forum in particular) but for now I need a little POP advice.

A friend and I are headed there from Aug 8 to the 18 or 20.

He dabbles a bit in mongering but he's also pretty picky about hotels and crap so we are leaning toward an AI type of deal. Are there ANY that are chica friendly, the nice resorts?

If not, what would you make of this strategy, which I have employed in other ritzy titzy places where I wanted to bring not-so-ritzy-titzy (but plenty titzy) companions:

Scour around the area banging girls in short-term motels or clubs or whatever until I found one or two I really dug and then just bringing her around regularly? I stayed a couple upscale places in Santa Marta and did that without any issue but I figure DR is more touristy (international tourists I mean) so maybe they would trip a little more about that. What do you think?

What would be my best bet to tow the line between the luxury and value of a nice AI and still banging a couple girls a day? I'm not trying to go too too crazy, like I said maybe a couple a day until I find one I like enough to keep around and do the GFE thing (my usual MO).

Thanks!

[Jaosousa]

Ahoy hoy, I'll be posting some reports in other forums shortly that I hope you all find helpful (several in the Colombia forum in particular) but for now I need a little POP advice.

A friend and I are headed there from Aug 8 to the 18 or 20.

He dabbles a bit in mongering but he's also pretty picky about hotels and crap so we are leaning toward an AI type of deal. Are there ANY that are chica friendly, the nice resorts?

If not, what would you make of this strategy, which I have employed in other ritzy titzy places where I wanted to bring not-so-ritzy-titzy (but plenty titzy) companions:

Scour around the area banging girls in short-term motels or clubs or whatever until I found one or two I really dug and then just bringing her around regularly? I stayed a couple upscale places in Santa Marta and did that without any issue but I figure DR is more touristy (international tourists I mean) so maybe they would trip a little more about that. What do you think?

What would be my best bet to tow the line between the luxury and value of a nice AI and still banging a couple girls a day? I'm not trying to go too too crazy, like I said maybe a couple a day until I find one I like enough to keep around and do the GFE thing (my usual MO).

Thanks!I have stayed in a bunch of All Inclusive Hotels, when I used to travel with my elderly father, he was happy to lay around the pool, drink beer and chat up the older tourist ladies who were staying at the AI. Most AI's offer a day pass, usually from 10am to 5pm. If the chica you are inviting to the AI has not caused problems before at that AI, more than likely, there will be no problem getting her a day pass. Alternatively if you like some chica you could pay for her room, if you wanted her to stay overnight. One AI in Juan Dolio, charged me $50US to allow the chica to sleep overnight in my room.

There are a few AI's in Sosua and over 10 in the Puerto Plata area.

Cabañas are short term hotels that you drive into, close the garage door, enter the room, paying the bill and receiving drinks, food, towels, soap and condoms is done through a small door in the wall, the workers don't see you and you don't see them. Cabana prices vary from 200 pesos and up. I have not used the cabanas in Puerto Plata.

Much easier to use cabanas if you have a rental car.

When I would use AIs in Sosua, I would rent a one bedroom condo apartment for about $35 per night. I would split the cost with a wingman and we would take turns using the apartment for hookups. A few times late at night I used the sofa with a chica and let my wingman use the bed in the bedroom.

Iberostar AI in Costa Dorada, Puerto Plata gets good reviews. I stayed at the Marien in Costa Dorada and it was nice.

Blue Bay in Playa Dorada complex is an adults only AI.

The RIU AI's are on the western side of Puerto Plata, I have never visited those hotels.

[Charles Pooter]

. we are leaning toward an AI type of deal. Are there ANY that are chica friendly, the nice resorts?No. You cannot take chicas into an AI except by booking them in as full-time guests. A very few guys have bribed them in but you don't want to rely on this outside chance and you would lose the cost advantage of staying in an AI.

The only thing that comes close is Sosúa Bay Hotel which is an AI (great location) with a chica friendly section but you and your chica would be in a "ghetto" within the hotel and not able to roam freely. I am not exactly sure how that works, but you could ask on the boards. What I notice is that mongers who try this arrangement don't seem to go back there next trip, which tells me all I need to know.


What would be my best bet to toe the line between the luxury and value of a nice AI and still banging a couple girls a day? I'm not trying to go too too crazy, like I said maybe a couple a day until I find one I like enough to keep around and do the GFE thing (my usual MO).First point is that the AIs on the North Coast are mostly not luxurious. My monger friends from England recently stayed in Casa Marina in Sosúa and never stopped moaning about it. One of them got food-poisoning badly. All the newer and better AIs are in the far east of the island which is where most tourists now go. The AIs on the North Coast are hurting badly and offering some great deals but they are mostly dumps by worldwide standards.

If saving money is your real reason for staying in an AI, and you only want two chicas a day, then you could bang the chicas in their place of work (invariably squalid conditions which might not suit your buddy, except at Passions, which is pricey) or take a taxi to a cabaña (a sort of motel which offers short stays. 3 or 4 hours, and is especially designed for discreet sexual encounters). But all this costs money and you will soon whittle away your savings from going the AI route unless you get a cracking flight / hotel package.

Unless you are on a tighter budget than you are admitting to, and you are prepared to pay a bit extra for comfort and edible food, then I would recommend staying in one of the better standard chica-friendly Sosúa hotels like Terra Linda or Residenciál.

This also has the advantage that you DR newbies would be right in the heart of the action and could meet up with experienced DR mongers who could show you around, saving you precious holiday time and possibly money by avoiding known bad chicas and other traps. You won't meet guys like that in an AI.

Another thing that worries me about your post is that you go with the intent of finding a chica to "wife up" with for most of your holiday. I think this is a dangerous strategy in the DR and in Sosúa, fatal. If you do find a nice chica, then it happens, great, but to go with that mindset in Sosúa (hardcore central) is just setting yourself up to be hurt and scammed. And, if you did want to stay with her you couldn't do it in an AI. Before I elected to stay exclusively with any one DR chica I would want to get to know her for two or three weeks first (minimum), and you are only there 10 days.

[Lorenzo]

What does AI mean? It doesn't appear on the abbreviation list.

[TomJackin]

What does AI mean? It doesn't appear on the abbreviation list.All inclusive resort. Food and drinks go with the daily price of the room

[Charles Pooter]

What does AI mean? It doesn't appear on the abbreviation list.All Inclusive hotel where your food, (usually a restricted range of) drinks, and other extras such as entertainment, is included in your quoted price. Often cater for "package holidays" where the flight is also included in your price. What is and isn't included varies with different countries and companies.

Lifestyles at Puerto Plata is currently offering a great deal at US$19 a day each for two sharing a room (but only to "First World" visitors). That is a nicer AI than most and I believe the price includes unlimited intake of top shelf drinks like Hennessey and Grey Goose. Downside is you are pressured to listen to their time-share presentation (which is why they do it) but you always can tell them to go and fuck themselves. (I wouldn't be so rude).

Not a lot of interest for mongers, though, and those deals sell out within a day or two because it is a fantastic bargain for alcoholics wanting a standard (non-mongering) holiday provided they can arrange a reasonably-priced flight.

[Miami111]

Is it cheaper to pay dominican pesos vs US dollars cash at BB for your room?

[Bennn]

When I would use AIs in Sosua, I would rent a one bedroom condo apartment for about $35 per night. I would split the cost with a wingman and we would take turns using the apartment for hookups. A few times late at night I used the sofa with a chica and let my wingman use the bed in the bedroom.

Iberostar AI in Costa Dorada, Puerto Plata gets good reviews. I stayed at the Marien in Costa Dorada and it was nice.Can you bring a girl (over night or for few hours) at the Marien in Costa Dorada?

[Miami111]

Is it cheaper to pay dominican pesos vs US dollars cash at BB for your room?What I should have asked is it cheaper to covert your US dollars at jennys market and then pay in dr pesos. Than just paying with US dollars

[Professor 1]

Is it cheaper to pay dominican pesos vs US dollars cash at BB for your room?In general, it is a better deal to pay in the currency of the country where you are. I rarely EVER pay in USD when in the DR. You lose on the exchange, and any change will be given in peso. Thus, you lose twice. You can ask for the price in both, and do the math. When I have done this in the DR, pesos was ALWAYS a better deal.

[Jaosousa]

I stayed about 5 times at the casa marina and before that about 5 times at Sosua Bay Hotel and Victorian House. Sosua Bay Hotel All Inclusive, used to be fairly inexpensive with good food and wine. Then the prices doubled. I am not too fond of Casa Marina in Sosua, but you get what you pay for. It is not a terrible all inclusive hotel, it is an inexpensive all inclusive, with in my experience some of the most unfriendly tourists staying there. At the Sosua Bay Hotel All Inclusive, many years ago, guests would mingle and have drinks together, it was a fun place.

Not all All Inclusive Hotels are created equal. Some are for budget travelers with prices of around $40 per person for a double occupancy room. Others like the Paradisus hotels in bavaro / punta, can go for more than $300 per night.

It is off season now so the rates at all inclusive hotels can be a third or half of the high season rates.

The Marian Hotel in Puerto Plata in costa dorada was very nice, well kept grounds, nice rooms, nice pool, nice beach, good buffet restaurant and good Italian restaurant. Next door to the Marian is the Iberostar, which is more expensive than the Marian and seems nicer than the Marian.

Security is good at just about all All Inclusive Hotels, in can be a welcome respite to enter an All Inclusive after being out and about in the streets of DR. Usually nice and calm and relaxed at most all inclusive hotels in DR. All the food and drink you can consume. Some AI's offer top brand liquor including good wine, white and red.

A monger can stay at a good AI in DR and still have fun mongering without breaking the bank. Transportation to find the chicas and a place to have sex, will determine how much extra an monger who stays at an AI will have to spend. Rental cars from good companies with insurance are about $40-$50 per day. Two guys traveling together can split the cost of the car rental. A place of for sex outside the AI, Sosua has tradewinds apartments and other apartment rentals, for around $40 per night. Again, if two guys split the cost of the apartment rental, it is about an extra $20 per day. Sharing a one bedroom apartment to use for sex with women, requires some coordination, but it can be done.

Near the Marian and the Iberostar (also the Gran Ventana in Playa Dorada gets good reviews) , there might be short term apartment rentals near the malecon in puerto plata. Parts of the malecon are less than a ten minute drive from the costa dorada complex and playa dorada complex, where the AI hotels are located. It might be conceivable that two guys traveling to DR could rent out a one bedroom or possibly a two bedroom apartment near the malecon in puerto plata, stay at the AI and use the apartment for sex.


No. You cannot take chicas into an AI except by booking them in as full-time guests. A very few guys have bribed them in but you don't want to rely on this outside chance and you would lose the cost advantage of staying in an AI.

The only thing that comes close is Sosúa Bay Hotel which is an AI (great location) with a chica friendly section but you and your chica would be in a "ghetto" within the hotel and not able to roam freely. I am not exactly sure how that works, but you could ask on the boards. What I notice is that mongers who try this arrangement don't seem to go back there next trip, which tells me all I need to know.

First point is that the AIs on the North Coast are mostly not luxurious. My monger friends from England recently stayed in Casa Marina in Sosúa and never stopped moaning about it. One of them got food-poisoning badly. All the newer and better AIs are in the far east of the island which is where most tourists now go. The AIs on the North Coast are hurting badly and offering some great deals but they are mostly dumps by worldwide standards.

If saving money is your real reason for staying in an AI, and you only want two chicas a day, then you could bang the chicas in their place of work (invariably squalid conditions which might not suit your buddy, except at Passions, which is pricey) or take a taxi to a cabaña (a sort of motel which offers short stays. 3 or 4 hours, and is especially designed for discreet sexual encounters). But all this costs money and you will soon whittle away your savings from going the AI route unless you get a cracking flight / hotel package.

Unless you are on a tighter budget than you are admitting to, and you are prepared to pay a bit extra for comfort and edible food, then I would recommend staying in one of the better standard chica-friendly Sosúa hotels like Terra Linda or Residenciál.

This also has the advantage that you DR newbies would be right in the heart of the action and could meet up with experienced DR mongers who could show you around, saving you precious holiday time and possibly money by avoiding known bad chicas and other traps. You won't meet guys like that in an AI.

Another thing that worries me about your post is that you go with the intent of finding a chica to "wife up" with for most of your holiday. I think this is a dangerous strategy in the DR and in Sosúa, fatal. If you do find a nice chica, then it happens, great, but to go with that mindset in Sosúa (hardcore central) is just setting yourself up to be hurt and scammed. And, if you did want to stay with her you couldn't do it in an AI. Before I elected to stay exclusively with any one DR chica I would want to get to know her for two or three weeks first (minimum) , and you are only there 10 days.

[Jaosousa]

What does AI mean? It doesn't appear on the abbreviation list.On this board AI can refer to two different things. AI=All Inclusive. There are All Inclusive hotels in DR where tourists go, sometimes with their wives or children, where you pay one price for the room and all you can eat food anD beverages.

AI on this board also refers to certain businesses in DR that provide an All Inclusive sex vacation, Oxygen and others. Where the price you pay includes the room, food and drink and the services of onsite women.

[Miami111]

In general, it is a better deal to pay in the currency of the country where you are. I rarely EVER pay in USD when in the DR. You lose on the exchange, and any change will be given in peso. Thus, you lose twice. You can ask for the price in both, and do the math. When I have done this in the DR, pesos was ALWAYS a better deal.Preciate it

[Jaosousa]

In general, it is a better deal to pay in the currency of the country where you are. I rarely EVER pay in USD when in the DR. You lose on the exchange, and any change will be given in peso. Thus, you lose twice. You can ask for the price in both, and do the math. When I have done this in the DR, pesos was ALWAYS a better deal.Sometimes when you don't have pesos, no other choice but to pay in dollars. With thieving banks in the US and in DR, now getting $5US per ATM transaction ($10US per transaction for ATM withdrawals in DR from a JP Morgan Chase account, no wonder Chase has good profits). Some guys will lose money when they withdraw cash from an ATM in DR. I sometimes pay in Dollars at hotels or restaurants.

[Member #4244]

I have stayed in a bunch of All Inclusive Hotels, when I used to travel with my elderly father, he was happy to lay around the pool, drink beer and chat up the older tourist ladies who were staying at the AI. Most AI's offer a day pass, usually from 10am to 5pm. If the chica you are inviting to the AI has not caused problems before at that AI, more than likely, there will be no problem getting her a day pass. Alternatively if you like some chica you could pay for her room, if you wanted her to stay overnight. One AI in Juan Dolio, charged me $50US to allow the chica to sleep overnight in my room.

There are a few AI's in Sosua and over 10 in the Puerto Plata area.

Cabañas are short term hotels that you drive into, close the garage door, enter the room, paying the bill and receiving drinks, food, towels, soap and condoms is done through a small door in the wall, the workers don't see you and you don't see them. Cabana prices vary from 200 pesos and up. I have not used the cabanas in Puerto Plata.

Much easier to use cabanas if you have a rental car.

When I would use AIs in Sosua, I would rent a one bedroom condo apartment for about $35 per night. I would split the cost with a wingman and we would take turns using the apartment for hookups. A few times late at night I used the sofa with a chica and let my wingman use the bed in the bedroom.

Iberostar AI in Costa Dorada, Puerto Plata gets good reviews. I stayed at the Marien in Costa Dorada and it was nice.

Blue Bay in Playa Dorada complex is an adults only AI.

The RIU AI's are on the western side of Puerto Plata, I have never visited those hotels.Jaosousa and Charles, just to clarify we were looking at something Puerto Plata, including the two places you mentioned. We are not looking to save money as much as we want to have nice facilities, I guess the AI aspect of it, sure, we want to be bed for the same price as a non-AI but overall we want a nice pool, fresh sheets, etc, (more so my friend than I, I've stayed at Los 4 Grandes in Jaco Beach LOL).

I like those love motels OK, have used Punto Cero in Medellin and loved it, had some crap experiences, too. If the one-bedroom condos are 35 a night, that might be the ticket, just buddy up with an owner and rent one when I need it. Thanks for your input, fellas and anyone else who decides to chime in.

[Jaosousa]

Jaosousa and Charles, just to clarify we were looking at something Puerto Plata, including the two places you mentioned. We are not looking to save money as much as we want to have nice facilities, I guess the AI aspect of it, sure, we want to be bed for the same price as a non-AI but overall we want a nice pool, fresh sheets, etc, (more so my friend than I, I've stayed at Los 4 Grandes in Jaco Beach LOL).

I like those love motels OK, have used Punto Cero in Medellin and loved it, had some crap experiences, too. If the one-bedroom condos are 35 a night, that might be the ticket, just buddy up with an owner and rent one when I need it. Thanks for your input, fellas and anyone else who decides to chime in.Some cabana pics from Santo Domingo. The nicer cabanas have themed suites, two floor rooms, some with a stripper pole, jazuzzi, some with sex chairs, etc. You can order food or drinks, you can stay for as long you want, the second 4 hours, the one time I stayed in a cabana overnight for 8 hours, was cheaper than the first 4 hours. Playboy Palace is in Santo Domingo.

[Jaosousa]

Can you bring a girl (over night or for few hours) at the Marien in Costa Dorada?Some AI's will try to gouge a Monger who wants to bring in a chica for an overnight stay. Some may charge $60 or more. Day pass is cheaper. You could save money by renting an apartment for $40 per night, or using low cost hotels or cabanas. One of my first trips to Sosua, I used the hotel calypso, because I didn't want to pay over $60US to the Sosua Bay Hotel All Inclusive, to have the chica sleep over. Calypso hotel, back then was nasty. First and last time I used the Calypso. After that I rented a room at Rockys to use for sex, while I was staying at an AI in Sosua, back then Rocky's rooms were, if I remember correctly, under $20US per night. On subsequent trips, I rented apartments at the Tradewinds, El Neptuno and the Palms, split the cost with a wingman, while I stayed at the AI. Package deals, air and all inclusive hotel from New York, used to cost around $500 for 6 days and 5 nights.

The problem with the Marien, is unlike in Sosua where almost everything is close and within walking, the Marian is not within walking distance to small inexpensive hotels, cabanas or apartments. For the Marian you need a taxi, motoconcho, carro publico or a rental car. If you will be renting a car, then staying at the Marian will not be a problem. If you don't rent a car, then you will need to take taxis, motos or carro publicos to get to other areas from the Marien AI Hotel.

[Charles Pooter]

Can you bring a girl (over night or for few hours) at the Marien in Costa Dorada?I already answered that question to you a few posts back."You will not be permitted to take chicas back to an AI". (Unless they book in as a guest or you pay for a day pass, which is expensive and would negate your saving by staying in an AI).

Loads of newbies post on this and other boards wanting the cost savings of staying in an AI (and perhaps what they see as the extra security, although that is a quite unnecessary concern) and at the same time want to monger inexpensively.

Sorry, it ain't going to happen. If you stay in an AI you will pay additional costs for mongering one way or another (taxis, cabañas, less choice, greater inconvenience, etc, etc). Very, very few experienced mongers who have been coming to the DR for years stay in AIs (unless they just want a straight holiday with a novia or get a quite exceptional package deal). But newbies keep thinking they can beat the system and get a free lunch (or the inedible crap that passes for lunch in some, not all, AIs).

You can stay in an AI and monger. I have already promised to show around two guys who had already booked at Playa Dorada. One didn't know better and the other is with family on a "straight" holiday and just wants to sneak out for a quick fling a couple of times. Whether you will get better value than, for example, staying in a chica-friendly hotel in Sosúa depends on the price you paid for your package. But nine times out of ten you won't.

[Scotch]

I will be in DR at the end of Aug. I just want to know if some old timer like myself can give me a relialble driver for a couple of night.

I will go to sousa or bc to sleep. I only go to PP or SD for girls.

I like the High Price Places so Can someone tell iF SD is better then PP. Places like El boheme and Krystal in PP and The rem place in SD its been a while for me; been in Rio.

Thanks in advandge you can I'm me or put it on the board.

[Hillbilly69]

Jaosousa and Charles, just to clarify we were looking at something Puerto Plata, including the two places you mentioned. We are not looking to save money as much as we want to have nice facilities, I guess the AI aspect of it, sure, we want to be bed for the same price as a non-AI but overall we want a nice pool, fresh sheets, etc, (more so my friend than I, I've stayed at Los 4 Grandes in Jaco Beach LOL).

I like those love motels OK, have used Punto Cero in Medellin and loved it, had some crap experiences, too. If the one-bedroom condos are 35 a night, that might be the ticket, just buddy up with an owner and rent one when I need it. Thanks for your input, fellas and anyone else who decides to chime in.Terra Linda resort in Sosua free breakfast but it will be nicest place in that town girl friendly anyway but not an AI. As Jao said Gran Ventana in Playa Dorada or Barcelo get good rates on Cheapcarribean. Com

Here are Barcelo and Gran Ventura pics the beach is nicer there than other Playa Dorada and there was plenty of hot looking beach girls in the covered bar which belongs to?

One more place I will call him Pooters buddy LOL he owns condo on West side of Sosua Bay awesome place singletravel at hotmail dot com is his contact two story probably your cheapest option and nicest place girl frindly hot tub, pool.

[Charles Pooter]

I will be in DR at the end of Aug. I just want to know if some old timer like myself can give me a relialble driver for a couple of night.

I will go to sousa or bc to sleep. I only go to PP or SD for girls.

I like the High Price Places so Can someone tell iF SD is better then PP. Places like El boheme and Krystal in PP and The rem place in SD its been a while for me; been in Rio.

Thanks in advandge you can I'm me or put it on the board.Remington's closed years ago.

I can understand you patronizing Cristal or El Bohen (they are still both going) if you have loads of money, but why would you then want to sleep in Sosua and have a half hour trip each way every time you fancied a fuck?

Easy to find drivers. Tourist trade has collapsed on the North Coast so they are desperate for work.

[Jaosousa]

I will be in DR at the end of Aug. I just want to know if some old timer like myself can give me a relialble driver for a couple of night.

I will go to sousa or bc to sleep. I only go to PP or SD for girls.

I like the High Price Places so Can someone tell iF SD is better then PP. Places like El boheme and Krystal in PP and The rem place in SD its been a while for me; been in Rio.

Thanks in advandge you can I'm me or put it on the board.Charles Pooter knows Puerto Plata, I asked him one time about el bohen and he told me the chicas there seemed to be in some type of drug induced daze.

Crystals I visited about three times and I saw some fine chicas in there, not all, but a few. Prices I have read for take out at Crystals is north of $100US.

Santo Domingo has more casas, from inexpensive to expensive. Santo Domingo has a greater population than Puerto Plata and thus a greater population of women.

If you don't mind spending money, then maybe passions in santiago, you might enjoy.

Santo Domingo prices start at 1000 pesos and go to 8000 pesos. Most casas in santo domingo will ask for 3500 pesos, which is less than $100US, some guys pay 2500 pesos.

Blackbeards in Puerto Plata has set prices, in a safe and secure environment. Sosua has more freelancers with whom you can negotiate with and Sosua has Passions Massage and CMP, with set prices.

Generally more Haitian chicas can be found in Puerto Plata and Sosua. Generally, more lighter skin chicas in Santiago. Santo Domingo has a mix (I have run into very few Haitian pros in Santo Domingo).

Boca Chica is about 30 minutes from Santo Domingo and has a good number of Haitian pros, from what I have read.

Casa 21 in Juan Dolio, about 40 minutes from Santo Domingo had some nice talent. Casa 21 is in a nice house with a swimming pool. Caprichos in Juan Dolio had about 10 chicas, not bad.

[Jaosousa]

Nice pics. I will have to find my photos from the Marien Hotel. When I stayed there it was called something like Coral Marien by Hilton (Hilton had to get rid of its partnerships with AI hotels in DR because of some Dominican law).

I stayed at the Barcelo Capella AI, in Juan Dolio recently, price was about $63US per night, per person (double occupancy room). Orbitz had a promotion, when I booked two nights at the Barcelo Capella, Orbitz sent me a coupon for $200US off a future 5 night or more, hotel and air package. The Barcelo Capella was nice, good room on the beach and a view of the water. Various fresh made fruit shakes in the morning. There is guy who makes omelets with whatever fillings you want in the morning and a pasta station at lunchtime and dinner time. Presidente beer, all you can drink. The Barcelo in Playa Dorada used to be the Occidental.

I did feel like a retard at the Barcelo when I went to enter the room for the first time (after not sleeping for over 30 hours). I slid the plastic room key card in the door lock, moved the door handle and pulled on it, to open the door and the door wouldn't budge, tried it numerous times, made the long walk to the lobby in the heat, waited at the lobby, the guys at the front desk checked the plastic key card and said it was fine, walked back to the room, tried it again, no luck, then the chica I was with, realized the door opens inwards, I was pulling on the door and not pushing, LOL (cartoons from Gary Larson, The Far Side).

Orbitz has various coupons, DEALPRO10, knocks 10% of the nightly hotel room rate. Orbitz has another coupon that will take $100US off a 7 night hotel and air package.


Terra Linda resort in Sosua free breakfast but it will be nicest place in that town girl friendly anyway but not an AI. As Jao said Gran Ventana in Playa Dorada or Barcelo get good rates on Cheapcarribean. Com

Here are Barcelo and Gran Ventura pics the beach is nicer there than other Playa Dorada and there was plenty of hot looking beach girls in the covered bar which belongs to?

One more place I will call him Pooters buddy LOL he owns condo on West side of Sosua Bay awesome place singletravel at hotmail dot com is his contact two story probably your cheapest option and nicest place girl frindly hot tub, pool.

[Scotch]

Remington's closed years ago.

I can understand you patronizing Cristal or El Bohen (they are still both going) if you have loads of money, but why would you then want to sleep in Sosua and have a half hour trip each way every time you fancied a fuck?

Easy to find drivers. Tourist trade has collapsed on the North Coast so they are desperate for work.The girls seem to enjoy the trip and sometimes stay until it time for thier next shif.

Is there a place like the Rem place I love that place.

The last time I was in Cristal The room upstair was almost in the DJ booth and Always took out of El bohen Don't think they have rooms.

I am not rich just like to mix it up and When I stayed in PP at Jake tar AL no girls were allowed had to do in house or motel.

[Orgasmico]

I will be in DR at the end of Aug. I just want to know if some old timer like myself can give me a relialble driver for a couple of night.

I will go to sousa or bc to sleep. I only go to PP or SD for girls.

I like the High Price Places so Can someone tell iF SD is better then PP. Places like El boheme and Krystal in PP and The rem place in SD its been a while for me; been in Rio.

Thanks in advandge you can I'm me or put it on the board.Thanks for the pics, dude, that's a cutie

[Manizales911]

Remington's closed years ago.

I can understand you patronizing Cristal or El Bohen (they are still both going) if you have loads of money, but why would you then want to sleep in Sosua and have a half hour trip each way every time you fancied a fuck?

Easy to find drivers. Tourist trade has collapsed on the North Coast so they are desperate for work.El Bohen is closed. They either lost their lease on the building or were foreclosed on I'm not sure which. I'm sure it will reopen elsewhere in the future.

[Jaosousa]

Staying at an AI in DR is not the cheapest way to go for Mongering in DR.

Some guys may want a traditional Caribbean vacation in a nice setting and they may also want do some mongering. For those types of guys, paying a little extra to be able to have a typical Caribbean vacation in a nice setting and do some mongering on the side, the extra cost might be worth it. When you stay at an AI, just about everything is included in the price you paid, you don't have to worry about carrying money around or asking prices of things. No loud motos zipping by, spewing dark exhaust fumes. I bring dollar bills to an AI and will usually tip the bartenders or waitresses 1 or 2 dollars and it is appreciated.

I started going to DR with my elderly father and it was a good way to spend some time with him, staying at an AI in DR. He just about never exited the AI, me and another family member would go out at night.

When I travel alone now to the DR, I very rarely stay at an AI. I will take a favorite chica to an AI and that is always enjoyable, wake up, have sex, go eat breakfast, lounge around, more sex, then lunch, dinner and maybe watch a show at the AI. Very relaxing, in a clean, secure, nice environment, for not a lot of money.

When I travel with other family members, some of whom don't monger, staying at an AI in DR is a good option.


I already answered that question to you a few posts back."You will not be permitted to take chicas back to an AI". (Unless they book in as a guest or you pay for a day pass, which is expensive and would negate your saving by staying in an AI).

Loads of newbies post on this and other boards wanting the cost savings of staying in an AI (and perhaps what they see as the extra security, although that is a quite unnecessary concern) and at the same time want to monger inexpensively.

Sorry, it ain't going to happen. If you stay in an AI you will pay additional costs for mongering one way or another (taxis, cabañas, less choice, greater inconvenience, etc, etc). Very, very few experienced mongers who have been coming to the DR for years stay in AIs (unless they just want a straight holiday with a novia or get a quite exceptional package deal). But newbies keep thinking they can beat the system and get a free lunch (or the inedible crap that passes for lunch in some, not all, AIs).

You can stay in an AI and monger. I have already promised to show around two guys who had already booked at Playa Dorada. One didn't know better and the other is with family on a "straight" holiday and just wants to sneak out for a quick fling a couple of times. Whether you will get better value than, for example, staying in a chica-friendly hotel in Sosúa depends on the price you paid for your package. But nine times out of ten you won't.

[Charles Pooter]

El Bohen is closed. They either lost their lease on the building or were foreclosed on I'm not sure which. I'm sure it will reopen elsewhere in the future.Thanks. I didn't know that. (So much for my reputation as a Pto Pta guide. Not that I would ever take anyone there unless they insisted). And I go past it two / three times a week. Funny they closed not long after buying their huge new sign after suffering for many years that old one which seemed to lose another letter every few months.

This is great news for Lino at Cristal as they were in direct competition for an extremely limited number of clients.

Would make more sense for El Bohen to re-open in Sosúa or maybe Cabarete if they could find the right premises as those towns lack a comparable place.

Do you know for sure it was for lease issues and not because of insufficient clients? It never surprises me when any Dominican business closes. Most of them seem to survive on a wing, a prayer, and family members working for peanuts. What does surprise me is how so many survive with few or no apparent customers.

[Chotu]

Thats the only way to get a cheaper flight out of toronto. Usually the package is a same price as a seperate flight.


Staying at an AI in DR is not the cheapest way to go for Mongering in DR.

Some guys may want a traditional Caribbean vacation in a nice setting and they may also want do some mongering. For those types of guys, paying a little extra to be able to have a typical Caribbean vacation in a nice setting and do some mongering on the side, the extra cost might be worth it. When you stay at an AI, just about everything is included in the price you paid, you don't have to worry about carrying money around or asking prices of things. No loud motos zipping by, spewing dark exhaust fumes. I bring dollar bills to an AI and will usually tip the bartenders or waitresses 1 or 2 dollars and it is appreciated.

I started going to DR with my elderly father and it was a good way to spend some time with him, staying at an AI in DR. He just about never exited the AI, me and another family member would go out at night.

When I travel alone now to the DR, I very rarely stay at an AI. I will take a favorite chica to an AI and that is always enjoyable, wake up, have sex, go eat breakfast, lounge around, more sex, then lunch, dinner and maybe watch a show at the AI. Very relaxing, in a clean, secure, nice environment, for not a lot of money.

When I travel with other family members, some of whom don't monger, staying at an AI in DR is a good option.

[Questner]

Thats the only way to get a cheaper flight out of toronto. Usually the package is a same price as a seperate flight.I still have to see it as a fact. Don't mislead anyone, if you travel solo then AI package is ALWAYS more expensive than a flight only, if booked at the same time. It will be no-brainer to get free transfers, free food and booze and then to walk out of the AI's gate to rent a GF place. Sosua package on average at best is usually $200 more expensive per week than a flight.

[Chotu]

I still have to see it as a fact. Don't mislead anyone, if you travel solo then AI package is ALWAYS more expensive than a flight only, if booked at the same time. It will be no-brainer to get free transfers, free food and booze and then to walk out of the AI's gate to rent a GF place. Sosua package on average at best is usually $200 more expensive per week than a flight.I am not going to get into argument into with you, go do your own research. This works out cheaper for me from toronto. You can always rent short term room

[Buscemi]

One more place I will call him Pooters buddy LOL he owns condo on West side of Sosua Bay awesome place singletravel at hotmail dot com is his contact two story probably your cheapest option and nicest place girl frindly hot tub, pool.Yes, that is a beautiful chica friendly condo in Charamicos on the water!

[Charles Pooter]

One more place I will call him Pooters buddy LOL he owns condo on West side of Sosua Bay awesome place singletravel at hotmail dot com is his contact two story probably your cheapest option and nicest place girl frindly hot tub, pool.I would not presume to call him my buddy. I am not worthy! We get on OK but I haven't spoken to him for nearly a year. That is a magnificent apartment and convenient location if you can afford it. But the reason I am writing now is that I have assumed he only lets it to personal friends or those strongly recommended by personal friends. I know if I were him I wouldn't want all and sundry staying there. It is not as if he is exactly desperate for the income!

[Questner]

I am not going to get into argument into with you, go do your own research. This works out cheaper for me from toronto. You can always rent short term roomI have only responded to your post because I fly out from YYZ and have been doing research, quotes and trips for the last 4 years.

How does it work cheaper for you? Are you the third person in the room? . Just post only one readable comprehensive verifiable quote where it is cheaper. If you succeed I will buy you 1 year annual membership here on ISG. If you don't succeed, make a charitable donation of your choice while in DR. Deal or no deal?

Rules:

Flight YYZ-POP-YYZ 1 week 1 person any time any AI hotel taxes and single supplement included. Both quotes should be available to public and made in the same day. No special codes, your agent rebates, miles or other tricks.

[Outlooker]

Hey guys just wanted to introduce myself as I am new to this forum.

First of all thanks for all the info.

I'm planning a trip to the Puerto Plata the end of August and this forum's info proved very helpful.

My past exploits have included Thailand, Costa Rica and the DR plus others but whose primary focus wasn't mongering.

However it's been many years ago.

I used to post on a board called TSM (Travel for the Single Male) or at least that's what I think it was called.

I believe it's been disbanded.

So I know how helpful it was to get info for planning a trip.

The two times I traveled to DR I stayed in Boca Chica based on the info from TSM.

Can't remember the name of the hotel but it wasn't an AI.

It was a smaller place right on the beach, had a nice staff, a pool, and clean rooms.

It was within easy walking distance to the action but far enough away

That it was quiet and the beach less crowded.

It was on the opposite of town to the huge AI resorts.

I think it was family run.

They allowed guests to bring girls to their rooms as long as it was kept low key.

Maybe this is enough info for someone here to guess it's name. Again it was a long time ago.

This time I want to go and take it easy. Try something different, stay very low key and enjoy.

Plus I don't have a wingman which in the past made the trips less stressful and more fun.

So started doing my homework. Before finding this board I had initially found a site AlexisClub. Com.

Again I'm trying something different. I've never used a service before.

Many of the pictured of the girls are stunning. But after finding this board I changed to Oxygen.

BB has a lot of good things written on it but again for this trip I was looking for the least effort.

To provide the greatest return.

After I finalize my dates I'll post them here in hopes of hooking up with one of you guys.

I'm shooting for end of August and staying for a week.

Again thanks for all the advice.

I pledge to return and post a detailed report on my return.

[Doker44]

I guess thats the end of the road for Jose, I liked the guy and it sucks loosing an option as a monger but if he was warned then he should of listened! Can't blame BB's I would be pissed if I was them also.

[BlackSultan]

I guess thats the end of the road for Jose, I liked the guy and it sucks loosing an option as a monger but if he was warned then he should of listened! Can't blame BB's I would be pissed if I was them also.To hell with him and his future prospects. I am more interested in the chicas.

[Roger Dodger 007]

I guess thats the end of the road for Jose, I liked the guy and it sucks loosing an option as a monger but if he was warned then he should of listened! Can't blame BB's I would be pissed if I was them also.What's all this about, Doker?

Dodger

[Manizales911]

Thanks. I didn't know that. (So much for my reputation as a Pto Pta guide. Not that I would ever take anyone there unless they insisted). And I go past it two / three times a week. Funny they closed not long after buying their huge new sign after suffering for many years that old one which seemed to lose another letter every few months.

This is great news for Lino at Cristal as they were in direct competition for an extremely limited number of clients.

Would make more sense for El Bohen to re-open in Sosúa or maybe Cabarete if they could find the right premises as those towns lack a comparable place.

Do you know for sure it was for lease issues and not because of insufficient clients? It never surprises me when any Dominican business closes. Most of them seem to survive on a wing, a prayer, and family members working for peanuts. What does surprise me is how so many survive with few or no apparent customers.Sir Charles,

I honestly don't know for absolutely sure but the info came from a reliable source that lives in Puerto Plata.

[DownTowner]

What's all this about, Doker?

Dodger"Ex. Manager. Jose Hernandez. Not Welcome here. .

Since having fired Jose as a manager of Blackbeards for numerous infractions of Hotel policies, it has become apparent that he left with a database of customer email addresses. He has subsequently used this proprietary information to contact Blackbeard's clients to offer illegal transportation services, hotel / apartment rental referrals, etc. In addition he claims to be offering the "Representation" of numerous "Chicas". Including photos on the internet. Without their explicit consent or, in some cases, even their knowledge.

As a result, he is currently being investigated and pursued by the Taxi Unions and Politur (Tourism Police) for the above mentioned activities. In spite of repeated warnings from the Unions and Politur, he has continued with his illegal activities.

Let it be known that Jose is NOT allowed anywhere near Blackbeards and that we have started legal proceedings against him. Caveat Emptor!"

[Kc Talent]

"Ex. Manager. Jose Hernandez. Not Welcome here. .

Since having fired Jose as a manager of Blackbeards for numerous infractions of Hotel policies, it has become apparent that he left with a database of customer email addresses. He has subsequently used this proprietary information to contact Blackbeard's clients to offer illegal transportation services, hotel / apartment rental referrals, etc. In addition he claims to be offering the "Representation" of numerous "Chicas". Including photos on the internet. Without their explicit consent or, in some cases, even their knowledge.

As a result, he is currently being investigated and pursued by the Taxi Unions and Politur (Tourism Police) for the above mentioned activities. In spite of repeated warnings from the Unions and Politur, he has continued with his illegal activities.

Let it be known that Jose is NOT allowed anywhere near Blackbeards and that we have started legal proceedings against him. Caveat Emptor!"Sounds pretty sick to me or just point-less B. S. I like to have choice as a monger and besides I don't belong to any establishment in the DR and surely don't want to be known as a client of BB's although I have been going there for the last 4-5 years. More importantly, surely BB's is not scare to compete with Jose for giving mongers information on other services he provide unless they receive lots of complaints from their clients (If that's what they want to be called) or he signed a no-compete agreement and if not where is the foul, maybe some of us gave Jose our card which had our name, address and email. Like I said. Sounds like BS. Maybe I'm missing the point here.

[Charles Pooter]

Move along please guys, just a hissy fit between pimps. Nothing for us here.

[Manizales911]

"Ex. Manager. Jose Hernandez. Not Welcome here. .

Since having fired Jose as a manager of Blackbeards for numerous infractions of Hotel policies, it has become apparent that he left with a database of customer email addresses. He has subsequently used this proprietary information to contact Blackbeard's clients to offer illegal transportation services, hotel / apartment rental referrals, etc. In addition he claims to be offering the "Representation" of numerous "Chicas". Including photos on the internet. Without their explicit consent or, in some cases, even their knowledge.

As a result, he is currently being investigated and pursued by the Taxi Unions and Politur (Tourism Police) for the above mentioned activities. In spite of repeated warnings from the Unions and Politur, he has continued with his illegal activities.

Let it be known that Jose is NOT allowed anywhere near Blackbeards and that we have started legal proceedings against him. Caveat Emptor!"One of my wingmen contacted him during our trip last week, he tried to charge him $1200. USD for six days with one of his "friends". Fuck that sonofabitch.

[Doker44]

One of my wingmen contacted him during our trip last week, he tried to charge him $1200. USD for six days with one of his "friends". Fuck that sonofabitch.If he is looking for 1200 it sounds like he is maybe looking for waaayyy to big of a cut, I got the impression some of his "friends" that were not ex BB girls or coming from Cristals were very expensive. I know somebody that used him and paid no where near that and he brought the girl to the apartment and he overall was pleased although it fell apart in day 3 like it always seems to do and the girl was a hardcore pro....yea he really didnt need him. Another one of my wingman used him and it was a dud; wasted night. Has anybody else used him and have good or bad info. Of course it probably will not matter now.

[Manizales911]

Manizales, Ill go a case of presidentes that I get to it first.We both lose, one of my wingmen had her last week, hahaha. I could have had sloppy seconds but I don't roll like that with my friends.

[Manizales911]

"Vanessa worked at BB's for a long time and was cute so there is a line forming to get down and dirty with her now that she isn't working there. You know the whole forbidden fruit thing, got it?"

Fellas, I know for a fact that she is taken so don't waste your time.Yeah she is taken allright, she is takin' that Western Union gringo novio for a ride. My wingman had her between the sheets last week, hahahahaha.

[Kc Talent]

If he is looking for 1200 it sounds like he is maybe looking for waaayyy to big of a cut, I got the impression some of his "friends" that were not ex BB girls or coming from Cristals were very expensive. I know somebody that used him and paid no where near that and he brought the girl to the apartment and he overall was pleased although it fell apart in day 3 like it always seems to do and the girl was a hardcore pro.yea he really didnt need him. Another one of my wingman used him and it was a dud; wasted night. Has anybody else used him and have good or bad info. Of course it probably will not matter now.I have used a service that he provided in regards to rental of a condo which was great and I will do again if needed. After all BB's as it appears stay full all the time and you can't get in on a short notice and if you do there is those damn room changes but who as a monger not new to the DR would need or use Jose service to get girls? I will not say never but unless the quality is so great and the price is so low and 2 for 1 or non-pro, maybe.

[Doker44]

I have used a service that he provided in regards to rental of a condo which was great and I will do again if needed. After all BB's as it appears stay full all the time and you can't get in on a short notice and if you do there is those damn room changes but who as a monger not new to the DR would need or use Jose service to get girls? I will not say never but unless the quality is so great and the price is so low and 2 for 1 or non-pro, maybe.Yes that was my understanding the girls were non-pro or semi-pro

[FirstDude]

Yeah she is taken allright, she is takin' that Western Union gringo novio for a ride. My wingman had her between the sheets last week, hahahahaha.Mani, You are correct sir! I found out what HE was about also not to long after I wrote that. If he is reading our post, the time has come to wake up! Also, how was she?

[Hunts]

We both lose, one of my wingmen had her last week, hahaha. I could have had sloppy seconds but I don't roll like that with my friends.Had her in May so your wingman did have sloppy seconds ha ha.

[Hunts]

Mani, You are correct sir! I found out what HE was about also not to long after I wrote that. If he is reading our post, the time has come to wake up! Also, how was she?Not too good, her oral skills needs improvement, she has a great body but the action just wasn't that good. She does have a nice new tattoo though.

[Boriman]

Move along please guys, just a hissy fit between pimps. Nothing for us here.Pooter is right. It it a hissy fit between pimps (wait a minute! Isn't pimping illegal in the DR?)

[JayHighFive]

I am going to stay at BB's next week. I see they have a set price list for the girls. Do the girls try to upsale once they get back to the room at all? Upsale for BBBJ, CIM, DFK or anything? Thanks guys.

Jay

[DownTowner]

I am going to stay at BB's next week. I see they have a set price list for the girls. Do the girls try to upsale once they get back to the room at all? Upsale for BBBJ, CIM, DFK or anything? Thanks guys.

JayI was there for 15 days and never was asked for more money. Not by my ST or LT girls.

[Professor 1]

I am going to stay at BB's next week. I see they have a set price list for the girls. Do the girls try to upsale once they get back to the room at all? Upsale for BBBJ, CIM, DFK or anything? Thanks guys.

JayI have only been to BBs a few times, but never had that happen. It is always a good thing to discuss expectations prior to entering the room. Some girls do not do DFK with strangers, so you want to ask. Before taking any girl, I tell her what I want to do to her.

[Derekeddy]

I have only been to BBs a few times, but never had that happen. It is always a good thing to discuss expectations prior to entering the room. Some girls do not do DFK with strangers, so you want to ask. Before taking any girl, I tell her what I want to do to her.Don't understand what all these acronyms stand for. Is there some glossary or something. Why can't you guys communicate better. I mean I have been to pattya, bancock, manila, cebu and sousua. But what is BBBJ, CIM, DFK, BB means. Please clarify.

[Frannie]

Don't understand what all these acronyms stand for. Is there some glossary or something. Why can't you guys communicate better. I mean I have been to pattya, bancock, manila, cebu and sousua. But what is BBBJ, CIM, DFK, BB means. Please clarify.These all look like stock market symbols, but actually try this.

BBBJ Bare back blow job.

CIM Come in mouth.

DFK Deep French Kissing.

BB Blackbeards Resort.

By the way, I appreciate that English may not be your first language, but if you are interestesed in improving the quality of communication, three of the 5 cities you mentioned are spelled incorrectly as per English orthography.

Try-

Pattaya.

Bangkok.

Sosua

[Kc Talent]

Don't understand what all these acronyms stand for. Is there some glossary or something. Why can't you guys communicate better. I mean I have been to pattya, bancock, manila, cebu and sousua. But what is BBBJ, CIM, DFK, BB means. Please clarify.What you are looking for is what the abbreviation stand for. All abbreviation for this forum can be found on the home page of the forum which will help you understand better

[Kc Talent]

Don't understand what all these acronyms stand for. Is there some glossary or something. Why can't you guys communicate better. I mean I have been to pattya, bancock, manila, cebu and sousua. But what is BBBJ, CIM, DFK, BB means. Please clarify.What you are looking for is what the abbreviation stand for. All abbreviation for this forum can be found on the home page of the forum which will help you understand better

[Kc Talent]

Don't understand what all these acronyms stand for. Is there some glossary or something. Why can't you guys communicate better. I mean I have been to pattya, bancock, manila, cebu and sousua. But what is BBBJ, CIM, DFK, BB means. Please clarify.What you are looking for is what the abbreviation stand for. All abbreviation for this forum can be found on the home page of the forum which will help you understand better.

[Jaosousa]

don't understand what all these acronyms stand for. is there some glossary or something. why can't you guys communicate better. i mean i have been to pattya, bancock, manila, cebu and sousua. but what is bbbj, cim, dfk, bb means. please clarify.there is a list on this site (forum-site administration-terms and abbreviations-terms and abbreviations list) : http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1897-terms-and-abbreviations-list

bbbjtc bare back blow job to completion (oral sex to orgasm)

bbbjtcws bare back blow job to completion with swallowing.

daty dining at the y (performing oral sex on a woman)

imho in my humble opinion.

mish missionary position, man on top during intercourse

tln toda la noche ("all the night" in spanish)

sw street walker.

punter british slang for a man who engages in sex with prostitutes.

gf girl friend.

gfe girl friend experience.

cmd carpet matches drapes (typically a natural blonde)

[Charles Pooter]

by the way, i appreciate that english may not be your first languagedid you borrow that one from me? always a good underhand dig because you can plead innocence.

however, if you take it upon yourself to correct someone's english it is vital to cover your own ass first. lol.


. if you are interestesed in improving the quality of communication
cmd carpet matches drapes (typically a natural blonde)good one. new one to me, but then there aren't too many blonde haitians.

[Frannie]

Did you borrow that one from me? Always a good underhand dig because you can plead innocence.

However, if you take it upon yourself to correct someone's English it is vital to cover your own ass first. LOL.

Good one. New one to me, but then there aren't too many blonde Haitians.I don't know if I borrowed it from you, but it is always wise to be aware that someone may still be learning English. On the other hand so many people navigate their way to the Sosua thread and then post SOUSA, that you have to wonder if Microsoft spell checker is taking a hand. I know the crude built-in spell and grammar check Jackson has installed here can be difficult to work around, for example, if you follow an abbreviation with a period it insists on starting a new sentence when none is desired.

Are you checking your private messages?

[DrSexalot]

I am going to stay at BB's next week. I see they have a set price list for the girls. Do the girls try to upsale once they get back to the room at all? Upsale for BBBJ, CIM, DFK or anything? Thanks guys.

JayThere is one girl there that tries to upsell you. I forget her name but she is the short fair skinned girl with the nice round ass. Other than that, most of the girls will pretty much do just about whatever. Some will even take it in the ass with no additional cost. CIM is hit or miss depending on the girl. In my experence, all the girls do BBBJ. But I have heard some guys say that they ran into a few that only did CBJ, YMMV. But to answer your question, no upsale should not be an issue.

[BlackSultan]

I have only been to BBs a few times, but never had that happen. It is always a good thing to discuss expectations prior to entering the room. Some girls do not do DFK with strangers, so you want to ask. Before taking any girl, I tell her what I want to do to her.Finding a chica that you have good chemistry with is a key factor as well.

[JayHighFive]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the info about any possible upsale in BB's. I was wondering if there is any action outside BB's in Puerto Plata, especailly during the day. Without having to go to Sosua.


I don't know if I borrowed it from you, but it is always wise to be aware that someone may still be learning English. On the other hand so many people navigate their way to the Sosua thread and then post SOUSA, that you have to wonder if Microsoft spell checker is taking a hand. I know the crude built-in spell and grammar check Jackson has installed here can be difficult to work around, for example, if you follow an abbreviation with a period it insists on starting a new sentence when none is desired.

Are you checking your private messages?

[Charles Pooter]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the info about any possible upsale in BB's. I was wondering if there is any action outside BB's in Puerto Plata, especailly during the day. Without having to go to Sosua.There is nowhere obvious to go in the daytime in Puerto Plata these days, you are 2/3 years too late.

Cristal gets going late afternoon but if you are worried about possible Barba Negra chicas price supplements you won't like Cristal's prices.

There are a few rough Dominican bars which open in the afternoon and where if you are extremely lucky you might find a diamond in the rough. I found the girl I am now living with in one of them and she is just great. But it is very long odds. Some guys quite like the genuinely Dominican style (unlike BB or places in Sosúa) but the chicas are mostly ugly, and you better have ear-plugs and cast-iron bladders because you don't want to have to visit the baños. More fun if you can dance the local dances (bachata and merengue).

Otherwise in the daytime you can trawl along the Malecón. You might strike lucky there but watch out for under-age chicas. It is a pleasant walk / drive but there are no guarantees you will pull.

[Professor 1]

Thanks for the info about any possible upsale in BB's. I was wondering if there is any action outside BB's in Puerto Plata, especailly during the day. Without having to go to Sosua.I once received an offer from a girl on the road between the Costambar gate and the highway. I used to do the walk, and she asked me if I wanted company as we were walking. No sooner had I declined that a guy in a truck snatched her.

I also received an offer at the beach under pretense of massage, but the girl did nothing for me. During another occasion, I was approached by a girl near the ice cream parlor next to Hotel Jazmin. If you keep your eyes open, you will find; however, it can be hit or miss.

[DownTowner]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the info about any possible upsale in BB's. I was wondering if there is any action outside BB's in Puerto Plata, especailly during the day. Without having to go to Sosua.These girls sat down at the table at the beach and wanted to "hit it", quoted me 2000P each so I offered 1000P. They were not giving in and I could get better at BB's (Black Beards) for 1300P.

Also was told 500P by a girl near night fall at the beach.

Two girls came up to me at the pizza place around the corner and offered up.

I ended up taking back to BB's a waitress from a beach eatery, she turned in her I'd to the guard and up to the room we went.

The action at BB's will have you blowing dust so you can be very picky when it comes to outside talent.

Here are the "Beach Bitches"

155068

155069

[MiamiHeatLuver]

These girls sat down at the table at the beach and wanted to "hit it", quoted me 2000P each so I offered 1000P. They were not giving in and I could get better at BB's (Black Beards) for 1300P.

Also was told 500P by a girl near night fall at the beach.

Two girls came up to me at the pizza place around the corner and offered up.

I ended up taking back to BB's a waitress from a beach eatery, she turned in her I'd to the guard and up to the room we went.

The action at BB's will have you blowing dust so you can be very picky when it comes to outside talent.

Here are the "Beach Bitches"

155068

155069Kudos to you for sticking to your guns. One of them I wouldn't even let suck my dick borracho and the other really has some balls asking for 2000. I would have told her to keep walking without even countering.

[Hillbilly69]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the info about any possible upsale in BB's. I was wondering if there is any action outside BB's in Puerto Plata, especailly during the day. Without having to go to Sosua.Wednesday night at Charlies or Chalos is Kareoke night with 200 peso beer bongs. Some lookers there.

Also during the day there is a large Rancho Tipco on Ocean side of road when U-turn towards Santiago when leaving Blackbeards, I saw some lookers hanging around there about noonish.

[Twice Divorced]

These girls sat down at the table at the beach and wanted to "hit it", quoted me 2000P each so I offered 1000P. They were not giving in and I could get better at BB's (Black Beards) for 1300P.

Also was told 500P by a girl near night fall at the beach.

Two girls came up to me at the pizza place around the corner and offered up.

I ended up taking back to BB's a waitress from a beach eatery, she turned in her I'd to the guard and up to the room we went.

The action at BB's will have you blowing dust so you can be very picky when it comes to outside talent.

Here are the "Beach Bitches"

155069I ran into this one somewhere on the Malecon (I think). She had a nice, tight body and I was planning to take her for a romp. BUT, as we were talking and I was conducting my interview all she could talk about was wanting to go to one of the discos at Playa Dorada. I could see then and there that she thought she was worth more than I did. I excused myself and never went back. I have a picture of her somewhere. Just can't remember where at the moment.

[BlackSultan]

Kudos to you for sticking to your guns. One of them I wouldn't even let suck my dick borracho and the other really has some balls asking for 2000. I would have told her to keep walking without even countering.They look a mess. 500 pesos tops.

[Sidney]

They look a mess. 500 pesos tops.Sisters, #299 is cute, but no tits. The rumors are bad service and thieves. Very agressive!

[Loooney]

Anyone having problems seeing the pictures on BB's newletters? Any suggestions? The pictures appeared in the past letters but not the last one.

Thanks in advance

[Husker Dude]

Anyone having problems seeing the pictures on BB's newletters? Any suggestions? The pictures appeared in the past letters but not the last one.

Thanks in advanceAll my old Blackbeards newletters are blanks where the pics were. I got the pics when first sent out, but disappeared about a week or two ago.

[Kc Talent]

Anyone having problems seeing the pictures on BB's newletters? Any suggestions? The pictures appeared in the past letters but not the last one.

Thanks in advanceI get the same thing but no photo's. So I just send it to me at one of my other email address and it than works great. Use the forward to a friend located within the news letter to send.

[Loooney]

I get the same thing but no photo's. So I just send it to me at one of my other email address and it than works great. Use the forward to a friend located within the news letter to send.Tried forwarding to gmail. Clicked on display images and no luck.

[Loooney]

Today's newsletter from BB pictures showed up fine. Don't know what happened but everything OK now.

[HiClassDrifter]

Today's newsletter from BB pictures showed up fine. Don't know what happened but everything OK now.Loooney. Chris Meade, the new night manager assured me last night that the problems are temporary and related to technological upgrades of their computer systems (server) to improve their services to the pirates (including the newsletter). After I warned him on behalf of my fellow pirates that if the " conditions on board the ship " didn't improve soon that he would have to." Walk The Plank!" (smile)

[Loooney]

Mountain Lion Thanks, When this started I had just finished an upgrade to Norton Security. I thought that might have been the problem. ALL IS WELL. Thank you much

[M Milone]

Hello. Can someone tell me what the current rates are at Blackbeards? Thanks

[Orgasmico]

Hello. Can someone tell me what the current rates are at Blackbeards? ThanksYou mean other than the rates listed on their website?

[Loooney]

In the most current newsletter Who is the #10

[M Milone]

That's a good line, but I see how you could misinterpret my question. No, the short and long term rates for the chicas.

Does anyone know what they are right now?

Thanks

[HiClassDrifter]

That's a good line, but I see how you could misinterpret my question. No, the short and long term rates for the chicas.

Does anyone know what they are right now?

ThanksM Milone: I could be wrong, but I believe the rates are still 1,500 & 3000 Pesos for Short Term & Long Term respectfully!

[M Milone]

Thanks for the update. 1500 sounds like a bargain. Not sure about 3000 for the night.

[Frannie]

Thanks for the update. 1500 sounds like a bargain. Not sure about 3000 for the night.I love you Tea Party types!

Less than $100 is not a lot to pay for a middle aged man to have a fragrant freshly squeezed young college age woman sleeping at his side and bringing back memories of sharing a single bed in a college dorm room 30 years ago.

[TeamHorny]

M Milone: I could be wrong, but I believe the rates are still 1, 500 & 3000 Pesos for Short Term & Long Term respectfully!

The Mountain Lion!Yes you are correct. I was there three weeks ago.

[TeamHorny]

In the most current newsletter Who is the #10In the newsletter I see two chicas as number 10 (1) sporting the white bikini is "chantal".

The other brunette wearing the pink bikini is "Madeline".

[Hillbilly69]

carnival announces us$65m cruise port in dominican republic.

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zoom picture.

santo domingo. tourism minister francisco javier garcia announced friday the construction of a modern cruises terminal in the town maimon, at a cost of us$65 million, generating around 30 million dollars in its first year in operation.

he said the terminal will positively impact the province and can simultaneously berth two boats totaling at least 4, 000 passengers.

garcia said an investment of this breadth by the carnival corporation guarantees the project's success, expeditious construction, and the massive presence of cruise passengers. 'the speed of the work stems mostly because that investment doesn't require any financing or dominican government facilities for the investors. '

for giora israel, carnival corporation senior vice president for ports development and destinations, the terminal's construction is expected to start october 1.

the terminal will occupy 50, 000 square meters at maimóand bay, construction will last two years, and provide 800 direct jobs.

the resort city of puerto plata has been demanding the construction of a cruise ship port for several years to restore the province's splendor, characterized like tourist resort in the 70 and 80s

[Bkgee]

carnival announces us$65m cruise port in dominican republic.

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photo sacandomelao. com.

zoom picture.

santo domingo. tourism minister francisco javier garcia announced friday the construction of a modern cruises terminal in the town maimon, at a cost of us$65 million, generating around 30 million dollars in its first year in operation.

he said the terminal will positively impact the province and can simultaneously berth two boats totaling at least 4, 000 passengers.

garcia said an investment of this breadth by the carnival corporation guarantees the project's success, expeditious construction, and the massive presence of cruise passengers. 'the speed of the work stems mostly because that investment doesn't require any financing or dominican government facilities for the investors. '

for giora israel, carnival corporation senior vice president for ports development and destinations, the terminal's construction is expected to start october 1.

the terminal will occupy 50, 000 square meters at maimóand bay, construction will last two years, and provide 800 direct jobs.

the resort city of puerto plata has been demanding the construction of a cruise ship port for several years to restore the province's splendor, characterized like tourist resort in the 70 and 80sthis could be a real good thing.

[Prmilv]

welcome to "fiesta adult resort" (dr).

an exclusive, adult, erotic, full-service, fantasy vacation resort.

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we offer a discrete, exclusive, private, secluded and secure location, in an affluent area, (only 10-minutes from pop) , that offers 1st class treatment for the ultimate adult getaway, and the vacation of a lifetime.

featuring restaurant, sports bar, gym, pool, jacuzzi, massage, games, and more.

the resort consists of 18-rooms, all modern, private accommodations with en-suite baths, and each individually "fantasy" themed & designed.

the resort is maintained and managed by a professional, and service oriented, staff that is here to make your stay as enjoyable as possible (and, our manager lives on-site full-time)

and, we have 24-hour, on-site security staff, as well as a modern, hi-tech, security system with 16-cameras, and entry & exit is controlled by gate access.

_________________________________________________.

there are four styles of rooms to choose from:

1. deluxe $60 per night.

2. junior suite $80 per night.

3. master suite (for the most discerning guests) $110 per night.

4. 2-bedroom suite (perfect for bachelor parties) $125 per night.

* ask about our 3, 5 & 7-night discounts, and our group rate discounts.

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all rooms offer. (note: all rooms are "no smoking")

king-size, pillow-top beds.

large, flat-screen tv's (46"-to-50")

air conditioning & ceiling fans.

hot water showers.

wall-mounted safes.

daily maid service/ (laundry service is available at a nominal fee)

pool-facing private patios.

wifi access (which is available throughout the resort)

* we also have available "free calls" to the us & canada (via magic jack) *

in addition to the above, our "suites" also offer the following.

en-suite refrigerators.

our famous "tantra sex chairs" (kama sutra at its best!). don't worry, instructions are provided.

sex swings (for the more adventurous minded guests)

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at the resort. we offer the following on-site amenities and activities for your comfort and enjoyment during your visit.

large pool with waterfall.

secluded. 10-person+ jacuzzi.

restaurant with gourmet kitchen (open daily from 8:00 am until 11:00 pm)

modern sports bar (with eleven (50") tv's) & cabaret dance club (open daily from 8:00 am until 12:00 midnight)

game area (billiards, plus. ps-3, xbox & wii)

basketball area.

ping pong.

water volleyball.

modern gym facilities (treadmills, spinning bikes, weights, etc.) , with tv's and ac.

massage cabanas.

movie theater set-up (for pajama parties or the big game events)

boutique (clothing & accessories)

* ask your favorite "companion" (and her girlfriends) to join you for many of the above activities "topless"

we also have some unique commercial grade equipment to enhance your visit and make you feel at home.

cappuccino & espresso machine direct from italy (it's not starbucks, but they lack what other things we offer.)

industrial juicer (30 oranges per minute) for daily fresh squeezed juices.

theater quality popcorn machine (what's movie night without popcorn)

pizza oven (you can leave a lot of things behind when you go on vacation. pizza isn't one of them)

bbq grill (for some of our afternoon poolside parties)

additional "on-site activities & events" include, but are not limited to.

bikini contests.

lingerie parties.

aloha night bbq.

karaoke.

stripper pole competitions.

naked twister.

etc. (if you have any ideas or special requests, let us know and we will see what we can arrange during your stay)

with all of the above, plus our companions, there is no reason to leave the resort. but, for those who desire additional "off-site activities", we offer the following adventures & excursions that our concierge can arrange for you.

(note. off-site activities are not included and each comes with an additional cost, please ask us for any information you require in these regards)

golfing (world class "tournament" facilities across the street from the resort)

tennis.

casino.

beach.

all [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118) & activities (boating, fishing, surfing, scuba diving, etc.)

historical tours.

mountain adventures.

horseback riding.

quads / atv's / motorcross.

and, probably anything else you could think of. just ask.

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if there are any questions left unanswered, or any additional information required (or additional explanations) , please let us know and we will do our best to answer your inquiries.

we look forward to scheduling your visit and taking care of all of your "fantasy vacation" needs.

best regards,

the "fiesta adult resort" management & staff.

please call: 829-509-9674

[Hillbilly69]

Ok so fill me in, I was in Puerto Plata in January FOD was about to reopen as Playtime Resort. The new wall was up and Alberto had sold it. Now here is a different name who owns it now? How do you enter the place now? The one that was opening in January was a private club with no walk ins. So it is open to the public again? Girls there now or is it just a chica friendly hotel to comply with the original building arrangement that Dominican Billy had?

[Prmilv]

Same owner New Idea."With all of the above, plus our Companions, there is no reason to leave the Resort."

Drive to the gate, ring the bell and the guard will let you in.

Although "Open-to-the-Public". It is a "Semi-Private" Resort that is secluded, private, and secure (24-hour Security Staff) , and Entry & Exit is

Controlled by Gate access.

New website should be up soon.

[FoxesHunter]

Hi, a friend of mine have told me Puerto Plata is cheaper that Sousa, is it true? Is it cheaper than Santiago too?

I mean about fucking and living 10 days.

Thanks

[Ath Trainer]

Same owner New Idea."With all of the above, plus our Companions, there is no reason to leave the Resort."

Drive to the gate, ring the bell and the guard will let you in.

Although "Open-to-the-Public". It is a "Semi-Private" Resort that is secluded, private, and secure (24-hour Security Staff) , and Entry & Exit is

Controlled by Gate access.

New website should be up soon.Can you give us info about the companions? How many on the property at one time. Prices, time, etc? Thanks!

[Conrad Hess]

I saw that a previous poster asked what where the short term and long term prices for BB. Please clarify are you guys talking about all nighter for 3k? I ask because I want to know if they also have the 24 hour option?

I know that Passions in Sosua they have a 24 hour option, I am wondering if there is such a thing with the girls from BB? Or is that something that you have to negotiate with the girls yourself once you are there? I keep reading that there are only 2 option Short term and long term, so I would like clarification.

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

Conrad

[Charles Pooter]

Can you give us info about the companions? How many on the property at one time. Prices, time, etc? Thanks!Prices are 3500 for 2 hours. 6000 for TLN (in other words, Cristal pricing, and maybe they will use Cristal chicas). I think that would rule out most of us from using that service, but the rooms themselves look good value and given the location directly on the main road between Puerto Plata and Sosúa, with cheap and quick access to both towns by publico, there is no reason why guys cannot take in their own chicas. Could have a future for those who want something more tranquil than Sosúa but less isolated than Blackbeards. But if the new management needs a sizable income from chica sales to get by then I think they are doomed to failure at those prices.

[ChicaMaster1]

In the newsletter I see two chicas as number 10 (1) sporting the white bikini is "chantal".

The other brunette wearing the pink bikini is "Madeline".OMG I saw some hot pictures of this girl on. Another site damn she is hot as hell even the video I saw of her on YouTube is hot just go to you tube and type in hot Latin women or bikini contest.

[BogieMaker]

I saw that a previous poster asked what where the short term and long term prices for BB. Please clarify are you guys talking about all nighter for 3k? I ask because I want to know if they also have the 24 hour option?

I know that Passions in Sosua they have a 24 hour option, I am wondering if there is such a thing with the girls from BB? Or is that something that you have to negotiate with the girls yourself once you are there? I keep reading that there are only 2 option Short term and long term, so I would like clarification.

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

ConradI am no expert on BB having only spent a couple of weeks there but there is set pricing for ST (1500 / chica) and TLN (3000 / chica) but you can negotiate after that for extras. I have seen guys spend several days with the same woman so I assume as long as you keep her fed and entertained she will stick with you. The new bartender Damaris suggested to me it would be cheaper for me to stay with one girl rather than several different ones per day but I am on vacation and did not go to BB to have just one girl per day. Of course doubles and triples can get expensive so I see her point.

If you find a chica you really like I assume you could work out a 24 hour deal no problem. Maybe somebody who has done the long term commitment route can provide further insight.

[Windyj]

How hard is it to get from santiago to blackbeards cost, time and safety more interested in taxi? Thanks

[Charles Pooter]

How hard is it to get from santiago to blackbeards cost, time and safety more interested in taxi? ThanksDepends what time your flight gets in and maybe how much baggage you have. If the Caribe or Metro buses are still running that is a cheap option but a bit of hassle either end of the bus route which you might not welcome if you have baggage.

If you are landing at night your only option is a taxi (about US$100?) door-to-door or rent a car yourself. Latter not recommended if you are not used to Latin American driving and there are issues with insurance you need to look into.

[Jaosousa]

how hard is it to get from santiago to blackbeards cost, time and safety more interested in taxi? thanksfrom the airport, sti, to bb?

road from sti (santiago, el cibao international airport) into the city of santiago is an easy ride. during rush hour there will be traffic in santiago. mostly local type roads from santiago to puerto plata. in the town of navarrete you will bare towards your right for the mountain road that will take you to costambar and puerto plata, that road is two lanes (one lane for each direction of moving traffic) , scenic road through the mountains, with lots of curves.

safety will depend on you. if you tell the driver to take it easy (tranquilo, despacio, no loco, no quiero un cita con jesus cristo) , then it is an easy ride. if you tell the driver to hurry up, and your driver likes to pass a lot, then the ride will get more interesting. i have no desire to crash head onto into a cement truck driving in the opposite direction in dr, so i don't do crazy passing in dr. you will see many drivers in dr, who love to take chances on that mountain road to puerto plata, passing on curves.

if you tell your driver to take it easy, it is a safe ride. from puerto plata to the beginning of santiago late at night, i have driven in around 30 minutes. from sti airport to blackbeards will probably be an hour, depending on the time of day and weather (rain).

most major roads in dr are in good shape. secondary roads, smaller side streets, sometimes are crappy.

service is usually good in santiago. as in most of the world, some taxi drivers get bad reviews, there are honest ones and there are ones who try to overcharge.

there are online companies that you could possibly use for airport transfers; http://www.a2btransfers.com/; http://www.cocotours.com/

interesting video on the coco tours webpage showing a speed-ed up trip video, from samana airport into santo domingo. the driver in that video loves to pass; http://www.cocotours.com/cocotours/english/dominican-transfer-videos.htm

[Jaosousa]

How hard is it to get from santiago to blackbeards cost, time and safety more interested in taxi? ThanksYoutube video, to give you an idea of how part of the ride is, Santiago to Puerto Plata; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBgL89v3Rxg

[Frannie]

How hard is it to get from santiago to blackbeards cost, time and safety more interested in taxi? ThanksEasy. Exit airport, find taxi driver, negotiate price to Costambar or Puerto Plata, enter taxi, put on seatbelt if in front seat.

Cost. About $100.

Time. About an hour, maybe a bit more.

Safety. Odds favor safe arrival, however take out travel insurance prior to trip and make sure your affairs are in order. If anything bad happens, you can arrange for it to be announced in the Blackbeard's newsletter obituaries section.

[Gezpen]

Can anyone suggest any girlfriendly hotels in Puerto Plata or Sosua?

Thanks

[Sajahi]

Hi, I have been following a few DR threads and they have been pretty useful.

I am booked to go to Santiago on the 5th of September, and have arranged a taxi.

To pick us up ($100 USD) that The New Garden Hotel got for us. There will be a total.

Of 3 people so at $33-$34 bucks per person I thought it was a good deal, espeially none.

Of us have ever been to the DR and don't want to risk getting lost or robbed.

What do you guys think? Did we make the right choice?

[Charles Pooter]

Hi, I have been following a few DR threads and they have been pretty useful.

I am booked to go to Santiago on the 5th of September, and have arranged a taxi.

To pick us up ($100 USD) that The New Garden Hotel got for us. There will be a total.

Of 3 people so at $33-$34 bucks per person I thought it was a good deal, espeially none.

Of us have ever been to the DR and don't want to risk getting lost or robbed.

What do you guys think? Did we make the right choice?Shared three ways it's a no brainer. A solo traveller arriving in the daytime might consider the taxi / bus / taxi route to save money but for three sharing a taxi all the way has to be the answer.

[Frannie]

Can anyone suggest any girlfriendly hotels in Puerto Plata or Sosua?

ThanksGirlfriends are welcome at all hotels in Puerto Plata and Sosua.

[Tempoecorto]

Easy. Exit airport, find taxi driver, negotiate price to Costambar or Puerto Plata, enter taxi, put on seatbelt if in front seat.

Cost. About $100.

Time. About an hour, maybe a bit more.

Safety. Odds favor safe arrival, however take out travel insurance prior to trip and make sure your affairs are in order. If anything bad happens, you can arrange for it to be announced in the Blackbeard's newsletter obituaries section."Tongue in cheek" does not quite do justice as a description. It is hilarious. Especially the last two words (I cracked up big time.). Wonder if that will register though. I notice our reading skills are directly proportional to the quality of our education standard or is it too much work?

[Jaosousa]

Hi, I have been following a few DR threads and they have been pretty useful.

I am booked to go to Santiago on the 5th of September, and have arranged a taxi.

To pick us up ($100 USD) that The New Garden Hotel got for us. There will be a total.

Of 3 people so at $33-$34 bucks per person I thought it was a good deal, espeially none.

Of us have ever been to the DR and don't want to risk getting lost or robbed.

What do you guys think? Did we make the right choice?Best confirm that is the price for three travelers and that they send a vehicle big enough for three guys with luggage. You may want to inquire about the vehicle that will be sent for you.

Three large guys with luggage and a Dominican driver in a 1980 Toyota corolla piece of shit, will not be the most comfy ride.

[Daybreak1117]

Hey Guys

I am new to the forms and this site, but make no mistake I am not new to the game. My list of credits include Dubai, Bangkok, Panama City Panama, Addis, Ababa, Nairobi, Mombasa Kenya, Guatmela City, Elot Isreal and in the first week of Sep2011 I will add DR. I am pretty must set on BB after reading all the info about it. I never really knew or had an idea that the DR was wide open and right at my back door. In the next 2 or 3 days I will at least buy my plane ticket but I just wanted to know if BB fall thru can anyone give me any other places that might compair to BB. I plan to stay 14 days. My intiniton was to head back to Kenya and stay a week in Mombasa. (Love Cassablanca and hunting in Mtwapa) and one week in Nairobi. And of course Apple Bees was at the top of my list as soon as I hit Nairobi. I am not really into LTR, I like to fuck as many as I can. So besides the pussy which according to the post I have been reading I should have no problems, is there anything else I will be able to do, not a drinker so does BB have any thing to do in the tourist area in between the fucks. ? Thanks again for all the info and being new to the site I promis to return will a full indept report with plenty of photos

[Sajahi]

Best confirm that is the price for three travelers and that they send a vehicle big enough for three guys with luggage. You may want to inquire about the vehicle that will be sent for you.

Three large guys with luggage and a Dominican driver in a 1980 Toyota corolla piece of shit, will not be the most comfy ride.Yea I will email them a couple of days before the flight, so that way they can confirm. Last thing I need is to get to the.

Airport and find out that our driver aint even there!

[SanLuisMex]

I arrive Mon Sep 26 for a week after spending 3 nights in Sosua. Staying at the Paradise Beach Resort. I really enjoy the smaller, out of the ordinary bars. Any recommendations? I will be going to Blackbeard's on Sat 24 for Bikini Contest. May just get a room there that night if one is available. Are the clubs in Playa Dorado good for finding a chica? I would probably need to get a cabana. Any suggestions? Or can I pay to bring her in the Paradise? I hear locals come onto the resorts on the weekends. Are there any available girls or is this just a family thing? Lastly, is the waterfall trip worth it? Did it in Jamaica and got a really bad infection from the water. Or was it from a girl, hmmm.

[Sam 14]

If you guys ever decide to go to Black Beards again theres a guy right near by that will rent out his murder bike for 500 DR a day. That arrogant **** Tim that works there won't bother to tell you, but this guy is really cool. His name is Favio. His # is 809- 978-7500. Its a piece of shit. One of those pasola scooters with the running boards instead of foot pegs, little death wheels instead of normal wheels, and hand brakes instead of a foot brake. So that when you have a beer in your hand, you have to use the front brake. It smokes like hell, but its great. You can get to the local store without having to pay someone every time. Also good way to check out the beaches. I took it all the way to Sasua and he came and picked it up just for gas money. Hell the rental was cheaper than the taxi would have been, and I had transportation when I got to that place.

[Roger Dodger 007]

If you guys ever decide to go to Black Beards again theres a guy right near by that will rent out his murder bike for 500 DR a day.Yes, but for a few pesos more you can locally hire an old car. A lot safer having four wheels.

[Jaosousa]

I arrive Mon Sep 26 for a week after spending 3 nights in Sosua. Staying at the Paradise Beach Resort. I really enjoy the smaller, out of the ordinary bars. Any recommendations? I will be going to Blackbeard's on Sat 24 for Bikini Contest. May just get a room there that night if one is available. Are the clubs in Playa Dorado good for finding a chica? I would probably need to get a cabana. Any suggestions? Or can I pay to bring her in the Paradise? I hear locals come onto the resorts on the weekends. Are there any available girls or is this just a family thing? Lastly, is the waterfall trip worth it? Did it in Jamaica and got a really bad infection from the water. Or was it from a girl, hmmm.There are videos on youtube of the waterfalls in Puerto Plata, I never did it, some guys say it was fun and a little dangerous.

Many all inclusive hotels in DR will get an influx of locals on the weekends, it is usually families. You might get lucky at the resort, but I wouldn't bet on it. Paradise Beach Resort, is that in playa dorada complex? You could send ISG member charles pooter a PM, he lives in puerto plata (very humorous guy).

Some all inclusive hotels sell day passes, if you want to bring in a chica for the day. For overnight stays many all inclusive hotels will charge a lot to allow you in with a chica.

Playa Dorada Complex has a few bars that are not located inside the hotels, roadhouse, hemingway, coco boingo (I have not been there in years). Many locals are not allowed to visit the bars in playa dorada unless they are with a hotel guest.

Monte Llano had a large rancho tipico (maybe it is still there. 10 minutes or less by car from playa dorada complex). A rancho tipico is usually a large open air dance place. On the weekends usually gets crowded, live music with lots of people, small tables with chairs, large bottles of presidente beer for around 75 pesos with plastic cups. Some Dominican guys dance merengue all up on the chica. All shapes and sizes of chicas, I have seen at rancho tipicos.

Crystals near the malecon in puerto plata is an expensive strip / p4p venue.

[Charles Pooter]

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I arrive Mon Sep 26 for a week after spending 3 nights in Sosua. Staying at the Paradise Beach Resort. I really enjoy the smaller, out of the ordinary bars. Any recommendations? I will be going to Blackbeard's on Sat 24 for Bikini Contest. May just get a room there that night if one is available. Are the clubs in Playa Dorado good for finding a chica? I would probably need to get a cabana. Any suggestions? Or can I pay to bring her in the Paradise? I hear locals come onto the resorts on the weekends. Are there any available girls or is this just a family thing? Lastly, is the waterfall trip worth it? Did it in Jamaica and got a really bad infection from the water. Or was it from a girl, hmmm.I saw this post but declined to respond because I didn't really know what the poster was looking for, but since Jaosousa has kindly volunteered my name, here goes.

I don't know any "out of the ordinary" bars. In fact I don't know what he means by this. Gay bars? Biker bars? Sorry, I only know "ordinary" Dominican bars, one "ordinary" Haitian bar and "ordinary" tourist bars.

Yes Jaosousa, Paradise Beach Resort is in Playa Dorada.

If you can pick up women in US bars you should be able to pick them up in Playa Dorada tourist bars, but there are relatively few single women there apart from older gringas looking for sankie pankies and overpriced Dominican hookers hoping to prey on naïve holidaymakers who don't read the w h o are eboards like this one and therefore don't know the local pricing.

Lots of good and reasonably priced cabañas along the main road out of the city towards Santiago (not too far from the turn-off to Costambar and Blackbeards). Best is La Roka but there are five others cheaper, all comfortable.

If you are a fit guy you might enjoy Damajagua waterfalls expedition but don't go after heavy rain, don't have total confidence in your guide (they have failed to stop people losing their lives from time to time) , don't play the fool or be a smartass there (which is how most people have died) , don't touch alcohol that day before setting out.

[Jaosousa]

I saw this post but declined to respond because I didn't really know what the poster was looking for, but since Jaosousa has kindly volunteered my name, here goes.

I don't know any "out of the ordinary" bars. In fact I don't know what he means by this. Gay bars? Biker bars? Sorry, I only know "ordinary" Dominican bars, one "ordinary" Haitian bar and "ordinary" tourist bars.

Yes Jaosousa, Paradise Beach Resort is in Playa Dorada.

If you can pick up women in US bars you should be able to pick them up in Playa Dorada tourist bars, but there are relatively few single women there apart from older gringas looking for sankie pankies and overpriced Dominican hookers hoping to prey on naïve holidaymakers who don't read the w h o are eboards like this one and therefore don't know the local pricing.

Lots of good and reasonably priced cabañas along the main road out of the city towards Santiago (not too far from the turn-off to Costambar and Blackbeards). Best is La Roka but there are five others cheaper, all comfortable.

If you are a fit guy you might enjoy Damajagua waterfalls expedition but don't go after heavy rain, don't have total confidence in your guide (they have failed to stop people losing their lives from time to time) , don't play the fool or be a smartass there (which is how most people have died) , don't touch alcohol that day before setting out.SanLuisMex posted before that he lives in a Mexican border town and has experience in negotiating for p4p, seems like he knows Spanish. So he may be looking for bars, where the locals hang out to get p4p. I believe you posted before that there were some hit or miss bars located near the port in Puerto Plata. Some of the p4p bars in Mexico can be seedy, so maybe SanLuisMex may not mind mongering in some seedy type places in Puerto Plata.

Is the lighthouse bar in the casino building in OceanWorld open?

Let me know if you need anything from the US. Some relatives visited the UK recently and brought back some good tea bags from Sainsbury, not sure if you are tea drinker. I could bring the same thing, I gave you the last time, if you want.

[SanLuisMex]

Sorry, I only know "ordinary" Dominican bars, one "ordinary" Haitian bar and "ordinary" tourist bars.My fault bad choice of words. I am looking for Ordinary Dominican Bars. Something different from a tourist bar.

[Hillbilly69]

My fault bad choice of words. I am looking for Ordinary Dominican Bars. Something different from a tourist bar.Charlies or Chalos on Wednesday night is what you are looking for. Directions are about 2 blocks west of La Serena in Puerto Plata and one block off the Malecon. Maybe someone can pinpoint it on the Blackbeards google map.

[Charles Pooter]

Charlies or Chalos on Wednesday night is what you are looking for. Directions are about 2 blocks west of La Serena in Puerto Plata and one block off the Malecon. Maybe someone can pinpoint it on the Blackbeards google map.Good info from HB69. These are "straight" bars rather than puta bars where (mostly) young Dominicans enjoy themselves. But if you know the DR you will know there is no rigid dividing line between puta and non-putas (just shades of gray) and there are single women there and even women with their boyfriends with the latter not objecting to a little extra income coming into the menage.

Another good one is El Furgóand, about quarter-mile along Luis Ginebra from the Stadium into the city centre. On Wednesday and (I think) Friday they do a special offer of 5 Presidente Grandes in an ice-bucket for 300 pesos. Cheap way to offer drinks around and make new friends. They also have a tiny dance-floor which helps to break the ice if you can do the local dances (bachata, merengue and salsa. Well, strictly speaking salsa isn't a Dominican dance but they have their own version of it).

If you want non-tourist puta bars where you pay a salida (anything from 300 to 500 pesos) upfront to take a chica out (plus what you arrange with her, payable after the deed) then these are mostly located at the west end of the city. Placer, La Fragrancia, El Consulado are cramped and squalid with mainly ugly chicas but you occasionally find a diamond in the rough. D'Esteban is more spacious and pricey and it is possible to enter the toilet there without having to throw up. Music is deafening in these places.

Then there are the dance halls, Orión, La Canita, Terrazo Caribe and El Caballóand. Mainly for couples but some putas and semi-putas looking for clients. All close together in the West end of the city. Rougher crowd at La Canita and El Caballóand.

There are also the car washes. The most famous historically is Ojilvy but it has been dead for years since a health scandal. There is a carwash one half-mile out of the city on the mainroad towards Santiago and Costambar. Used to be called Cubacana. Now "Tio (something or other)". Only lively at the weekends. Not a great choice of chicas to salida out but does have the small advantage that you can sit in the little huts around the car park and see what is going on while avoiding damage to your eardrums.

Another carwash is Rancho Tipico further out of the city almost opposite the Costambar turn-off. They sometimes have top music acts there, but dead in midweek.

Finally, if you want something different. there is the Haitian dance-hall, Kakaobaka, right next to the Parada de Sosúa east of the Hospital. Only functions on Saturday and Sundays. Like most of these places only gets lively after 9.00pm though the tiny Placer, La Fragrancia, and El Consulado get too crowded then and are best visited around 7.00pm.

The stupid auto-correct on this board is playing havoc with my spelling. Mr Jackson needs to get to grips with it. I use another board with the same software and don't suffer any problems there so it can be corrected. Also it removes the paragraph spaces which makes longer posts very hard to read. Wake up, Mr Jackson!

[SanLuisMex]

Just what I was looking for. Gracias

[SanLuisMex]

Not sure if everyone already does this, but if you have access to the internet you can use the Google Translator (or an App) to communicate if you don't know spanish. I live in Mexico and still learning spanish. I do this all the time. The girls love it. Because not only are you communicating with them, they can put phrases in spanish and it translates to English as well. I have sat for hours at bars with girls that I would otherwise not be able to communicate with. I connect via wifi through my phone and or my laptop. Anyway, just thought I would pass it along.

[Twice Divorced]

Charlies or Chalos on Wednesday night is what you are looking for. Directions are about 2 blocks west of La Serena in Puerto Plata and one block off the Malecon. Maybe someone can pinpoint it on the Blackbeards google map.16 de Agosto, if I remember right.

[Jaosousa]

Placer, La Fragrancia, El Consulado are cramped and squalid with mainly ugly chicas but you occasionally find a diamond in the rough. D'Esteban is more spacious and pricey and it is possible to enter the toilet there without having to throw up. Music is deafening in these places.I laughed out loud when I read that. Some squalid restrooms exist at some places in DR.

[Frannie]

If you want non-tourist puta bars where you pay a salida (anything from 300 to 500 pesos) upfront to take a chica out (plus what you arrange with her, payable after the deed) then these are mostly located at the west end of the city. Placer, La Fragrancia, El Consulado are cramped and squalid with mainly ugly chicas but you occasionally find a diamond in the rough. D'Esteban is more spacious and pricey and it is possible to enter the toilet there without having to throw up. Music is deafening in these places.

The stupid auto-correct on this board is playing havoc with my spelling. Mr Jackson needs to get to grips with it. I use another board with the same software and don't suffer any problems there so it can be corrected. Also it removes the paragraph spaces which makes longer posts very hard to read. Wake up, Mr Jackson!Agreed about the auto correction program. It seems to have been written by a child.

Bars are good places for drinking, but you can find women anywhere in the DR.

I recommend stores like the Tienda Jimenez in Puerto Plata where many chicas buy their clothes. There are many female sales assistants, but customers too, because if they are buying clothes, where the hell did they get the money from, huh?

Caribe Tours bus station often has chicas waiting for transportation. Likewise El Parque where the taxis depart for Sosua.

Internet cafes often contain chicas busy Facebooking or instant messaging gringo boyfriends, and they are not alway averse to a little local diversion. (Cat away, mice play, and all that.)

Beautician shops and hairdressers may also provide sexual opportunities, both with employees and customers, as many chicas go there prior to a night out on the prowl. Go in for a manicure and you may end up getting your knob polished too.

Even sports events may provide opportunities. One evening I was watching a men's soccer game between two Haitian teams, and the cheerleaders were 100% hookers. Days later cheerleaders would tell me they had seen me at the game.

Any place where Haitians hang out may offer promise, because there are very few employment opportunities for Haitianas that do not involve some form of penetration.

Wherever you are just smile and say hello, and chances are that the next thing you know, your pants will be round your ankles as a friendly Dominicana shows you some of the local mountains and valleys.

[M Milone]

One of the main benefits of this site is to share information, and make it easier and more enjoyable for those with less experience. I 'discovered' the D. R. About 8 years ago, and if you asked me if I'd do it all over again, I'd say yes, but I'd do it differently. Maybe I've gone through about $500, 000. In that period, with a slight exaggeration. I've spent too much, but the cost of becoming a man has no price-tag. I'm a Gringo, but have been with Hispanics, and Dominicans my entire adult life. Maybe I have about 40 trips under my belt, all to the D. R. My ex-wife is Dominican, and the girl I brought here is obviously Dominican. I have tremendous experience with this culture, but as I said, he comes at a cost. If anyone would like more details, or any advice, please feel free to send me a message. I just wanted to make some points, and give some advice after my last trip this past August. I've done the all-inclusive's, the cabanas, and also the run down hotels. Most of my experience is on the north coast, although I've done Santiago and the Capital. I must add that I've also been to Blackbeards, and plan to give that place a stron recommendation for several reasons. I'm not an owner, nor do I have any connections there. I did Blackbeards early on, after doing the all-inclusive, first with the family, and then with my daughter. My idea was to have a few girls, and move on. Wrong. I fell for someone after having four wonderful days with someone who didn't utter one negative statement. This I was not accustomed to. Yes, Blackbeards is great for 'newbies', since you have your girls, your bar and restaurant, your room, and the beach, all there. No hassles, and no problems with the women. Prices are set, so just enjoy. This system will save you money, but most of all hassle. You will not get the exposure, or experience the culture so much, or even see the sights; it all depends what you are seeking. Since I gained my experience, I avoided Blackbeards, because I wasn't a Newbie anymore, and didn't want to be perceived as one. I love Dominicans, but when you 'mix' with them in the local places, it can wear on you. We are foreigners, and it's sad to say, but they can not look beyond that; it's that simple, and you must understand this. As much as it may be hidden, this is reality. Remember, I've had serious relationships, and I get insight from these women also. I see them there, and I see them here. More about the Blackbeards advice later. Anyway, I was alone, and did one night at the Puerto Plata Beach Resort. Not a bad place; a little more expensive than the other non A. I. Hotels. Used the WI-FI the next morning which was good, and free. Moved on to Sosua the next night, only because it was closer than driving back to the Malecon. I'm really not a fan of Sosua anymore, and less so now. It was a rainy night, but Sosua seems to have become 'seedier', and more 'grimy'. People asking if you want drugs, guys looking to exchange money (scam?) , the aggressive women, etc. But this time, I passed a guy from the states, a Dominican guy, who claimed to be 'stuck' there, waiting for a visa, etc. The story, and 'set-up' was coming, surely with him needing money for the lawyer, etc. Anyway, what I found interesting, is that he was perched up in a bar on the main strip, watching everything, seemingly in control, as people came by with questions, etc. He was taking it all in, and he knew everyone."Avoid that girl", etc. Sosua would be a great place for a reality show, for any of you entrepreneurs out there. You normally just scratch the surface, and really don't see what is taking place behind the scenes. I will say that there is a nice cabana, something I've always sought in Sosua, way down the main road, and then you need to veer left at a fork in the road, named 'Dulce' something or another. Recommended, and a better choice than the Sosua hotels. After a night at the New Garden, which is good, I set up shop at the Barcelo all inclusive, which I prefer over the others. As you know, the A. I. Provides a nice room, good chow, and relaxation. You can invite women there also, and pay the fee. A 'day pass' is not worth it, with the girl having to leave at 5pm. Needless to say, women love the A. I's. In between the A. I, and Sosua, I spent a majority of time at 2 car- wash's; Tropical, and Mambo. There is a place next to Tropical car wash called Rio Verde, a local joint, where the girls live there on site, and you will get a bang for your buck, with low prices. Further down the road, before the airport, there is a decent place called Saman; good music, and girls available, but not for on-site. The car wash scene is fun, and I was the only non-local, but again, it could wear on you, with people looking to drink on your tab, or with the local drunk hounding you, making like is is your long lost brother. Don't get me wrong, I have tremendous patience, and don't mind buying beers, or sharing with all the women; just sometimes, it gets out of hand, and usually the guys abuse the situation, with a big smile. Remember, I was basically living there for several days. I was with 3 girls from the car wash / Saman, and surprisingly, when we spoke of compensation beforehand, they said to pay what I wanted. They were very happy with 2000 pesos, and some of my usual trinkets that I bring. Back to B. B. 's, and I say B. B. 's, because I'm not aware of similar establishments in the area. I regret not going there, and having some peace, and being with a few different women. You could do a few 'short times' and not even commit to over night if you don't want to. Go to the beach, etc. It can remove some of the aggravation, and you can have an enjoyable time with someone of your choosing, and even do the G. F. E. With dinner there, etc. I will say though, for me, your problem may be that you may get attached to one girl, and there will go your plans for variety, or also like me, it is difficult to 'snub' one girl, or choose one girl over another, especially after you have been with her. For more details, please email me at martinmilo@aol.com Enjoy.

[Charles Pooter]

Great report, Martin. What a shame this board now eliminates paragraph breaks. A lot of guys will be deterred by a slab of text like yours, through no fault of your own.


This system will save you money.I agree Blackbeards will probably save newbies money and is a good place to start in the DR. Once you know your way around you can get the same value cheaper elsewhere.


. car wash called Rio Verde, a local joint, where the girls live there on site, and you will get a bang for your buck, with low prices.This comment makes me wonder how up-to-date your info is. Some guys like Rio Verde, some don't, but no-one would say it is "cheap" these days. What with the salidas you will be paying Sosúa prices for a limited selection of chicas.


In between the A. I, and Sosua, I spent a majority of time at 2 car- wash's; Tropical, and Mambo . further down the road, before the airport, there is a decent place called Saman; good music, and girls available, but not for on-site. The car wash scene is fun, and I was the only non-local/I am not familiar with these three places. How up-to-date is this info? Could you give more precise locations, please?

[BlackSultan]

Barba Negra Trip Report coming soon. First part later tonight.

[Hillbilly69]

Please tell me more about Barcelo in Playa Dorada. How much you pay a night there, and did you book online or show up there and pay cash? And how much extra to bring a chica in?

Thanks nice report!

[Mr Enternational]

I went to La Sirena on the Malecon the other day with a non-pro who works at the hotel I stay in in Sosua to get some things for her to cook dinner. There were so many nice women in that store alone. For a person who speaks Spanish this place should be a gold mine. Now I can understand why some guys never go near the oarmongering places such as Sosua or Boca Chica anymore. Those women look like garbage compared to the women who were in that store.

[Mr Gogo]

I went to La Sirena on the Malecon the other day with a non-pro who works at the hotel I stay in in Sosua to get some things for her to cook dinner. There were so many nice women in that store alone. For a person who speaks Spanish this place should be a gold mine. Now I can understand why some guys never go near the oarmongering places such as Sosua or Boca Chica anymore. Those women look like garbage compared to the women who were in that store.Man I love that store. My condo is near there and I hang out there often. It has a GNC, a cleaners, food court and banking. What I do is act like I'm talking on my phone in English when I see a group of girls. Some look at me and giggle, others ignore me and others ask where I'm from. Puerto plata is a hidden gem, lots of lonely women. Most trick but you can't use the Sosua approach. A lot of these girls use the internet to meet guys. But never mention Sosua to any of them, because you will have exposed yourself.

[BlackSultan]

I went to La Sirena on the Malecon the other day with a non-pro who works at the hotel I stay in in Sosua to get some things for her to cook dinner. There were so many nice women in that store alone. For a person who speaks Spanish this place should be a gold mine. Now I can understand why some guys never go near the oarmongering places such as Sosua or Boca Chica anymore. Those women look like garbage compared to the women who were in that store.I was up in there earlier this week: dips galore.

[Charles Pooter]

Man I love that store . It has . banking.The bank inside La Sirena is Banco Popular. It has two advantages. They get a lot of gringo customers so speak more English than some banks. But the more important advantage is they stay open until 7. 00pm Monday to Saturday and until 12 noon on Sundays. This last has been a blessing to me more than once when I have forgotten to draw cash on a Saturday.

[M Milone]

Great report, Martin. What a shame this board now eliminates paragraph breaks. A lot of guys will be deterred by a slab of text like yours, through no fault of your own.

I agree Blackbeards will probably save newbies money and is a good place to start in the DR. Once you know your way around you can get the same value cheaper elsewhere.

This comment makes me wonder how up-to-date your info is. Some guys like Rio Verde, some don't, but no-one would say it is "cheap" these days. What with the salidas you will be paying Sosúa prices for a limited selection of chicas.

I am not familiar with these three places. How up-to-date is this info? Could you give more precise locations, please?My point is, that B. B. 's is a good place to start, but not a bad place to revisit. You may get the same value cheaper, but it may come with headaches and stress. I avoid the tourist areas, and mix with the locals. All I'm saying is that the locals may wear you down. I guess since they know me from previous trips, they 'cling' to me.

As for Rio Verde, I didn't take a girl from there this last trip, but last August, it was 1000 pesos on site.

As for locations, as you head towards Sosua from the Playa Dorada complex, let's say halfway to Sosua, before the airport, you will pass Rio Verde and Tropical on your left. Shortly after that, on your right, will be Mambo, and then shortly after that, on your left, will be Saman. Saman is hidden; it's not clearly visible from the road.

[Hillbilly69]

I went to La Sirena on the Malecon the other day.Go up to the cafeteria upstairs at noon and watch all the 80 year old Euros with teenage wives or novias, the girls don't look very happy but they are thinking it isn't long now! LOL LOL

[Mr Enternational]

Go up to the cafeteria upstairs at noon and watch all the 80 year old Euros with teenage wives or novias, the girls don't look very happy but they are thinking it isn't long now! LOL LOLI actually noticed several 80 year old (read much older) European guys and their 20 year old significant others wearing matching wedding rings in Boca Chica a couple of days ago. I had to scratch my head because I have not really seen it in these parts before. In Thailand and PI it is quite rampant though.

[BlackSultan]

part one-blacksultan returns to bb's.

well, i am starting this report having just taken off from sdq after a stay at bb's from august 17 to september 2. the trip was supposed to last to the 28th of august but due to irene affecting the nyc area, i could not get out until today (which i will talk about later in the report). i don't usually write trip reports, but since i had not been to bb's in over 4 years (having taken vacations to sosua strictly and to medellin) , i felt the need to write a detailed report since there have been major changes since i had been there previously. and these changes are serious. to all the bb's detractors, i could not fuck with the american and dominican ghetto ignorance that is now sosua this trip. not at all. i did not even step one foot in the place even for a visit. to hell with the hunt there for right now. it is a mess and i will not return until it returns to some semblence of the way it used to be which i doubt very seriously will happen. i met a guy at bb's who had to dip out on his crew in sosua because they were grown ass men (in their 40s) acting like fools disrespecting chicas and the like as well as another situation where he could have easily lost his life (he was bucked (shot) at for talking to some dominican dude's novia in front of classicos and chased by the dude on a motoconcho). yeah ignorance. well. let me start the report about bb's:

accomodations: my room was cleaned impeccably by the maid staff everyday. they did an excellent job as always. the pool was always clean. as was the jacuzzi which is still a great place to chill with the chicas. i did so on many occasions.

food: the food has improved 1000% since i was last there. the chicken salad, spaghetti, and sancocho are the bomb. also try the pork medallions and sea bass. delicious. the breakfast. perfect as far as i am concerned. i must give two thumbs up forever to the waitstaff and barstaff: lily, damaris, jacqueline, adrianna, ruth, and monica! these women work their asses off to give good service and should be commended. i ran a tab for food and drink. and it was high. but it got paid off at the end and it is all good. i really should pay as i go along on my next stay. but i get lazy on vacation.

management (non-mamasans) :

i have to give a serious shout out to chris (the former night manager). this guy was and is a consumate professional throughout my stay intently listening to my concerns and immediately helping me with any issues i had (especially when i had to deal with jetblue about rescheduling my flight to get out of the dr. he had very good sense of the tenor and tone of the place based on my interactions with him and he will be missed.

the new night manager, cliff, is a real stand-up guy. tim spent much time showing him the ropes and this guy appeared to be focused on learning his new job. his addition the staff is indeed welcome. i could not see bb's every surviving or improving if management is not on point. cliff is going to be on point.

martha. slam dunk, grand slam home run, converts on 3rd down everytime. and gorgeous. enuff said.

captain tim. well if any of you guys know tim. you know that he busts his ass (physically and mentally) to keep the bb's ship afloat. and to be quite honest. no tim. no bb's. i can't see it.

management (mamasans) :

flor: she speaks perfect english. highly organized. extremely mindful. and attentive to guests needs when they have chica issues. she is a professional. and she is extremely observant. of everything and everybody. also be aware that she is measured in her speech. focused. and does not go off on tangents when talking to guests. i tried. did not work. she is smart as a muthafucka. and if any of you guys try to talk to her into selling you some pussy (she is a cutie with some serious dookie on the back end of things). let me say this. don't even think about it. you might get embarrassed.

crystal: she understands english better than she can speak it. and just like flor, she is highly organized and attentive to guests needs when they have issues. i saw this first hand in a particular situation that dealt with another guest and a chica.

she is a little more tougher with the chicas than flor is. in other words, crystal is the bad cop and flor appears to be the good cop. at least from what i observed. i could be wrong. crystal has a kick ass personality. and very friendly with the guests as is flor. these two work well together and john needs keep them in their positions in order to keep the chicas in check which is going to lead into my review of the current chicas that i interacted with during the course of my stay. the ones i fucked and the ones i did not. don't forget that i was at bb's for over two weeks and was able to fuck a bunch of them and chill with them, observe their mannerisms, speech, body language, dress, and interactions with the guests and there are some startling observations that i made and information that i found out.

the most critical observation that i have made is in regard to some of the new chicas. and this is something that has been mentioned before but not in the way i am about to mention it. and this can cause some serious ass problems if flor and crystal are not dead ass serious about correcting some negative behavior or at least assist some of the newer chicas in modifying their thinking about the approach to their job.

it appears that sosua hardcore tricknological psychosexual thinking is in the mindset of some of the new chicas. and this is detrimental. serlously detrimental to the overall vibe of barba negra. and barba negra classics are aware of it.

i will continue the report later when i get home.

[Charles Pooter]

As for locations, as you head towards Sosua from the Playa Dorada complex, let's say halfway to Sosua, before the airport, you will pass Rio Verde and Tropical on your left. Shortly after that, on your right, will be Mambo, and then shortly after that, on your left, will be Saman. Saman is hidden; it's not clearly visible from the road.Thanks for the info. I will try the three last-mentioned places. But at what time(s) can you find chicas there? Evenings only or also in the daytime?

That town is called Los Cangrejos, by the way. In English that means "the crabs". I hope that is not a reflection on the health of the local chicas.

[TeamHorny]

part one-blacksultan returns to bb's.

well, i am starting this report having just taken off from sdq after a stay at bb's from august 17 to september 2. the trip was supposed to last to the 28th of august but due to irene affecting the nyc area, i could not get out until today (which i will talk about later in the report). i don't usually write trip reports, but since i had not been to bb's in over 4 years (having taken vacations to sosua strictly and to medellin) , i felt the need to write a detailed report since there have been major changes since i had been there previously. and these changes are serious. to all the bb's detractors, i could not fuck with the american and dominican ghetto ignorance that is now sosua this trip. not at all. i did not even step one foot in the place even for a visit. to hell with the hunt there for right now. it is a mess and i will not return until it returns to some semblence of the way it used to be which i doubt very seriously will happen. i met a guy at bb's who had to dip out on his crew in sosua because they were grown ass men (in their 40s) acting like fools disrespecting chicas and the like as well as another situation where he could have easily lost his life (he was bucked (shot) at for talking to some dominican dude's novia in front of classicos and chased by the dude on a motoconcho). yeah ignorance. well. let me start the report about bb's:

accomodations: my room was cleaned impeccably by the maid staff everyday. they did an excellent job as always. the pool was always clean. as was the jacuzzi which is still a great place to chill with the chicas. i did so on many occasions.

food: the food has improved 1000% since i was last there. the chicken salad, spaghetti, and sancocho are the bomb. also try the pork medallions and sea bass. delicious. the breakfast. perfect as far as i am concerned. i must give two thumbs up forever to the waitstaff and barstaff: lily, damaris, jacqueline, adrianna, ruth, and monica! these women work their asses off to give good service and should be commended. i ran a tab for food and drink. and it was high. but it got paid off at the end and it is all good. i really should pay as i go along on my next stay. but i get lazy on vacation.

management (non-mamasans) :

i have to give a serious shout out to chris (the former night manager). this guy was and is a consumate professional throughout my stay intently listening to my concerns and immediately helping me with any issues i had (especially when i had to deal with jetblue about rescheduling my flight to get out of the dr. he had very good sense of the tenor and tone of the place based on my interactions with him and he will be missed.

the new night manager, cliff, is a real stand-up guy. tim spent much time showing him the ropes and this guy appeared to be focused on learning his new job. his addition the staff is indeed welcome. i could not see bb's every surviving or improving if management is not on point. cliff is going to be on point.

martha. slam dunk, grand slam home run, converts on 3rd down everytime. and gorgeous. enuff said.

captain tim. well if any of you guys know tim. you know that he busts his ass (physically and mentally) to keep the bb's ship afloat. and to be quite honest. no tim. no bb's. i can't see it.

management (mamasans) :

flor: she speaks perfect english. highly organized. extremely mindful. and attentive to guests needs when they have chica issues. she is a professional. and she is extremely observant. of everything and everybody. also be aware that she is measured in her speech. focused. and does not go off on tangents when talking to guests. i tried. did not work. she is smart as a muthafucka. and if any of you guys try to talk to her into selling you some pussy (she is a cutie with some serious dookie on the back end of things). let me say this. don't even think about it. you might get embarrassed.

crystal: she understands english better than she can speak it. and just like flor, she is highly organized and attentive to guests needs when they have issues. i saw this first hand in a particular situation that dealt with another guest and a chica.

she is a little more tougher with the chicas than flor is. in other words, crystal is the bad cop and flor appears to be the good cop. at least from what i observed. i could be wrong. crystal has a kick ass personality. and very friendly with the guests as is flor. these two work well together and john needs keep them in their positions in order to keep the chicas in check which is going to lead into my review of the current chicas that i interacted with during the course of my stay. the ones i fucked and the ones i did not. don't forget that i was at bb's for over two weeks and was able to fuck a bunch of them and chill with them, observe their mannerisms, speech, body language, dress, and interactions with the guests and there are some startling observations that i made and information that i found out.

the most critical observation that i have made is in regard to some of the new chicas. and this is something that has been mentioned before but not in the way i am about to mention it. and this can cause some serious ass problems if flor and crystal are not dead ass serious about correcting some negative behavior or at least assist some of the newer chicas in modifying their thinking about the approach to their job.

it appears that sosua hardcore tricknological psychosexual thinking is in the mindset of some of the new chicas. and this is detrimental. serlously detrimental to the overall vibe of barba negra. and barba negra classics are aware of it.

i will continue the report later when i get home.kudos for an excellent report. look forward to seeing the rest.

[M Milone]

Thanks for the info. I will try the three last-mentioned places. But at what time (s) can you find chicas there? Evenings only or also in the daytime?

That town is called Los Cangrejos, by the way. In English that means "the crabs". I hope that is not a reflection on the health of the local chicas.To be clear, Rio Verde is also hidden from the street. It is very close to Tropical car was, which is visible, on the same side of the road. At Rio Verde, chicas are available during the day also. At the car wash's, the girls are also available during the day, and the exit fee will be necessary; I paid 500 pesos. At Saman, I was also there during the day, and there were girls available, although it was slow and quiet. This was more of a normal place, not as obvious as Rio Verde. The girls at all three places were nice, and I'm excluding Rio Verde, since I wasn't with anyone from there this trip. You know the beauty of the barmaid / waitress girls, in that they are not hardcore, they have a legitimate job, and work hard. It's always good to gain a comfort level with them before asking them to leave. Mambo had some talent, and the girls are dressed normally, not like putas. Funny story regarding Rio Verde. I met some nice young, fresh talent there last November, not August as previously mentioned. I held her number, and contacted her on this trip. She was still there, but 8 months in that world can make you 'hard', and she was not the fresh, young girl from before, so I passed. Still nice though. Just a tip, so as not to be judged even more, I cut the A. I. Bracelet from my hand before venturing out to these places, and then reattach it when going back to the A. I. It's sad how 'they' try and rob us, given that we're foreigners. One thing to remember, this culture perceives you as a fool if you don't haggle. I don't like haggling, and avoid it in the states, but they expect it. It's funny, I'll argue with taxi drivers, etc. One of the girls I was with picked out 4 cd's, and the woman asked for 800 pesos. I laughed and explained no, and as I was walking to my car, I got the 200 peso price that I told her I normally pay. If you want to visit a regular Dominican joint, not far from Playa Dorada, head in the opposite direction, which I believe is west, and stay on the main road, past a large casino, and you will find El Furgon; nice music, small dance floor, and food. Nice local, regular talent. Remember that the Puerto Plata women are not as easy as the girls from the small towns, to which I'm accustomed. I will say that one night as I was leaving, one girl in a group of three asked me if I liked 'massages', and you know the rest.

[M Milone]

Thanks for the info. I will try the three last-mentioned places. But at what time (s) can you find chicas there? Evenings only or also in the daytime?

That town is called Los Cangrejos, by the way. In English that means "the crabs". I hope that is not a reflection on the health of the local chicas.One last thing about Saman. It stays open later than the other places, since the owner is some military guy. In the D. R, rank has it's privileges.

[Frannie]

It was a rainy night, but Sosua seems to have become 'seedier', and more 'grimy'. People asking if you want drugs, guys looking to exchange money (scam?) , the aggressive women, etc. .

I was with 3 girls from the car wash / Saman, and surprisingly, when we spoke of compensation beforehand, they said to pay what I wanted. They were very happy with 2000 pesos#1. The money change guys are not really a scam, but the exchange rate varies depending on how much money you change, so they will change smaller amounts at a higher rate and then arbitrage the deal by going to the money changing office and changing larger amounts at a more favorable rate. Do not buy Viagra or Cialis from them as their prices are ridiculous. Get it at Latino mini market on Calle Alejandro Martinez for much, much less.

#2. I too would be very happy to go with you for 2000 pesos. The girls would probably be fairly happy with 1000, though of course more is more and there are degrees of happiness.

[Charles Pooter]

If you want to visit a regular Dominican joint, not far from Playa Dorada, head in the opposite direction, which I believe is west, and stay on the main road, past a large casino, and you will find El Furgon; nice music, small dance floor, and food. Nice local, regular talent.Thanks for the Los Cangrejos info. Nice to see some different places get a mention here.

To find El Furgon coming from Sosúa direction, pass Playa Dorada on your right, then Costa Dorada with its prominent casino, and you will see the large baseball stadium on your right, set back a bit with a grassy area in front. Immediately after the stadium is a large gyratory ("roundabout" for us Brits). Don't follow most of the traffic along "the" main road as M Milone suggests. That veers a bit to the left towards the hospital. But take "a" main road (it's dual carriageway) called Avenida Luis Ginebra which is straight ahead into the town centre. El Furgon is quarter mile down there on your right.

On Wednesdays and (I believe) Fridays they offer a "special" of five Presidente Grandes in an ice-bucket for 300 pesos. Cheap way to make new friends.

Furgon should have an accent on the "o" but the dumbass spell-checker here cannot handle some accents. My dictionary says it means a heavy truck such as an armored vehicle or a caboose. It is a popular name for bars in the DR, there is another one in Puerto Plata. Any of the Spanish speakers here can explain the connection with trucks? I am guessing that in the old days they used to sell the booze straight off the back of a truck and the locals would gather round for an impromptu dance and party, but I'm only guessing.

[Twice Divorced]

El Furgon is quarter mile down there on your right.I admit I'm not very good with distances, but I'm pretty sure El Furgon couldn't be more than a couple of hundred yards beyond the rotary (roundabout).

[Doker44]

The most critical observation that I have made is in regard to some of the new chicas. And this is something that has been mentioned before but not in the way I am about to mention it. And this can cause some serious ass problems if Flor and Crystal are not dead ass serious about correcting some negative behavior or at least assist some of the newer chicas in modifying their thinking about the approach to their job.

It appears that Sosua HardCore Tricknological Psychosexual Thinking is in the mindset of some of the new chicas. And this is detrimental. SERlOUSLY DETRIMENTAL TO THE OVERALL VIBE OF BARBA NEGRA. And Barba Negra Classics are aware of it.

I will continue the report later when I get home.I just got back from my BB's trip, last flight before the hurricane 2 weeks ago. I have been going 4 to 5 times a year for several years so I have a good feel for the ups and downs and the new girls were awesome so please explain.

[BlackSultan]

I just got back from my BB's trip, last flight before the hurricane 2 weeks ago. I have been going 4 to 5 times a year for several years so I have a good feel for the ups and downs and the new girls were awesome so please explain.I will. But please tell me who you are referring to specifically and I will respond specifically.

[Thee Hammer]

I'm thinking of my first trip to dr, not new to mongering. 5 Costa rica trips. 3 Thailand. I don't speak much spanish and am going solo. Wanted your thoughts on this plan- going for 8 days week of thanksgiving, thinking starting at BB's for 3 days or so then on to Sousa? Stay at New Garden I guess?

Thoughts?

Can you bring outside chics into BB?

[Roger Dodger 007]

Can you bring outside chics into BB?Sure you can but you won't be popular with the other girls there. My advice is use the Cabanas.

Anyway, as the Brits say it's "like taking coal to Newcastle"! (Newcastle being a mining town, but not any longer)

[Hedonian]

I'm thinking of my first trip to dr, not new to mongering. 5 Costa rica trips. 3 Thailand. I don't speak much spanish and am going solo. Wanted your thoughts on this plan- going for 8 days week of thanksgiving, thinking starting at BB's for 3 days or so then on to Sousa? Stay at New Garden I guess?I did exactly that last February. My buddy and I stayed at New Garden for 4-5 days and then 3 days at BB. It was our first time in DR. I loved it. It was my first trip to the tropical climate during horrible winter. Being on a beach in February and having available chicas, it was heaven. I am planning on doing the same this winter too.

In terms of chicas, I think I enjoyed somewhat more BB then Sosua. I felt it was more of a relaxed environment and, on the average, chicas looked better and I enjoyed their service more. In Sousa it was more of an aggressive environment where chicas are trying to get you and do as much business as possible. However, both were great. You cannot go wrong with your plan and you should visit both as they are different experiences.

[Doker44]

I will. But please tell me who you are referring to specifically and I will respond specifically.Maybe I am misunderstanding you. Are you saying you had problems at BB's with the girls? What girls? What was the problem?

[Charles Pooter]

Wanted your thoughts on this plan - going for 8 days, week of Thanksgiving, thinking of starting at BB's for 3 days or so then on to Sousa? Stay at New Garden I guess?Excellent plan. New Garden is a safe bet but plenty of other good places to stay if you cannot get in there. And by the way it's Sosúa (a bit like "so sewer"). Don't worry about no Spanish in those two locations, just hitch up with experienced mongers to get you started. You will find plenty. Most other locations no Spanish would handicap you but not at BB or in Sosúa.


Can you bring outside chicas into BB?Yes, but what is the point? If you are not confident there are enough good chicas to keep you happy for three days while the hell are you staying there?

[M Milone]

Thanks for the Los Cangrejos info. Nice to see some different places get a mention here.

To find El Furgon coming from Sosúa direction, pass Playa Dorada on your right, then Costa Dorada with its prominent casino, and you will see the large baseball stadium on your right, set back a bit with a grassy area in front. Immediately after the stadium is a large gyratory ("roundabout" for us Brits). Don't follow most of the traffic along "the" main road as M Milone suggests. That veers a bit to the left towards the hospital. But take "a" main road (it's dual carriageway) called Avenida Luis Ginebra which is straight ahead into the town centre. El Furgon is quarter mile down there on your right.

On Wednesdays and (I believe) Fridays they offer a "special" of five Presidente Grandes in an ice-bucket for 300 pesos. Cheap way to make new friends.

Furgon should have an accent on the "o" but the dumbass spell-checker here cannot handle some accents. My dictionary says it means a heavy truck such as an armored vehicle or a caboose. It is a popular name for bars in the DR, there is another one in Puerto Plata. Any of the Spanish speakers here can explain the connection with trucks? I am guessing that in the old days they used to sell the booze straight off the back of a truck and the locals would gather round for an impromptu dance and party, but I'm only guessing.My apologies; I'm not a good driver, so when I say to stay on the main road, it basicall means no turns necessary. I also like going there because a simple you-turn gets you back to your hotel, etc. I don't know if I'd travel from Sosua for this place, no.

I will add to the advice of buying the bucket of brews though; buying a beer, and sending beers to women go a long way in the D. R. As you know, the women are beer drinkers, and many times head to the bars without sufficient brew money.

[M Milone]

#1. The money change guys are not really a scam, but the exchange rate varies depending on how much money you change, so they will change smaller amounts at a higher rate and then arbitrage the deal by going to the money changing office and changing larger amounts at a more favorable rate. Do not buy Viagra or Cialis from them as their prices are ridiculous. Get it at Latino mini market on Calle Alejandro Martinez for much, much less.

#2. I too would be very happy to go with you for 2000 pesos. The girls would probably be fairly happy with 1000, though of course more is more and there are degrees of happiness.I don't know if it's still an issue, but a while back, there was talk of counterfeit 2000 notes, so that is why I would avoid those guys, not to mention the negotiation. At the exchange house in Sosua, the guy offered 37 for a dollar, and I said no. Again guys, I only haggle there, not in the USA He said, what do you want? I said 38. He said 37. 50, and we had a deal.

As for the Cialis, etc, I came across a new product called Mambo 36, which I think I bought for 34 pesos each. The usual La Pela was going for 50. When you buy in bulk, don't forget to ask for the volume discount, which is usually 5. Now, if I were smart, which I'm not, I could fund my trips with the bulk purchase and resale of this drug, which is expensive, and hard to get in the states. Ass din some cartons of smokes from the duty free, and even some cigars (which requires more research) , and you could pay for your trip.

[Mr Enternational]

Can you bring outside chics into BB?You are talking about literally bringing your own hos to a ho house. If you were thinking about doing such a thing there would be no reason to stay at Black Beards in the first place.