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Freckly
12-06-12, 03:04
Arrival To Blackbeard's

Once at Blackbeard's, the driver took me to reception where we were met by Tim, one of the gringo managers there. After Tim went through the lowdown on the resort and the process with the girls, I paid for the two nights stay at $70 each night for a standard room as well as the $45 US transfer from the POP airport. I also changed $300 US into DR pesos as Tim claimed that they were offering a rate around 38 better than the bank rate of 40. So the check-in was pretty efficient although I would have felt better if the initial online reservation with my credit card was done over a secure webpage which they didn't have.Is 38 better than 40? I am confused.

Anybody help me?

Exoticspirit
12-06-12, 03:55
Exoticspirit,

I am also Asian and was looking at spending a few days at BB. Your report pushed me over. I will be staying there next weekend, barring lack of rooms.

Thank you!

By the way, it seems the regular price for ST is 1, 600. What is the price for overnight for the girls?I couldn't recall but I think it was just slightly under double the ST rate. I wasn't interested in overnights anyway. From my observation, only a few of us did overnights.

Exoticspirit
12-06-12, 03:56
BB is a great way to get your feet wet.I'll probably use BBs again for this very purpose, to get my feet wet again for the DR trip before heading over to Sosua.

NoEchelon
12-06-12, 04:13
I shagged the one that won the Bikini contest. The one in the pink. She was pretty fun. Nice muff with just enough hair. Seemed like she kindof dug it. Liked to wiggle around and get flipped over. She didn't even mind laying there getting grubbed for awhile. Took plenty of time and layed around afterwards pretending she liked me.The girl in the white bikini with the #6 tag is my type!

Hillbilly69
12-06-12, 12:38
The girl in the white bikini with the #6 tag is my type!I got a Joasousa Ambercrombie Shirt and a fake Blackberry for the one in the black bikini!

Buscemi
12-06-12, 14:16
Is 38 better than 40? I am confused.
Anybody help me?

He is confused, 40/USD is better than 38 unless you are buying USD.

ItalnStallion99
12-06-12, 22:32
Does anyone have a list of chicas names that would allow me to enter the backdoor that work at BB? I always wanted to try this and I just booked my next trip.

I want to have a list of names before I go so I know who does who doesn't. I'd rather not email the office asking this informaton.

Would I be able to find girl in sosua that would allow this as well?

Thanks

Mr Enternational
12-07-12, 04:00
I haven't seen a whole lot of posts about people hooking up with Cupid girls from Puerto Plata. I was thinking about trying that and maybe spending a little less time on point and click in Sosua. Is there a reason people don't want to use Cupid in Puerta Plata besides the ease of pursuit otherwise. I would like to find one that speaks a little English and maybe spend a couple of quiet days in an apt / condo or AI at the end of my trip. Any advice, warnings, or other commentary is appreciated.I have a few chicks from Cupid who live in Puerto Plata. However, I never stay in POP. They visit me in Sosua. Puerto Plata is just too fucking small dude. Case in point: Earlier this year I told a non-pro who I have been dealing with since my first time up north that I was driving back down to Santo Domingo to get my flight. Keep in mind that I was staying in Sosua and she had come to visit me there. She has a car and good job, etc. Well what my plan actually was was to meet up with one girl for a few minutes then I was going to stay at another chick's house in Puerto Plata for a couple of days. I had planned to meet the first girl at La Sirena which is on the malecon. I parked the car and went inside the store to check out the fine honeys. My regular girl kept calling me but I would not answer. The girl who I was waiting on was running late. I went back to the car to wait for her. Lo and behold my regular girl rides by, rolls down the window, and calls me a fucking liar and drives off. She has not talked to me since. But it is a good thing that the other girl was running late. She saw me alone. Just think what could have happened if the girl I was waiting for would have been on time.

Another girl who I mess with that is married to a gringo had always told me how small Puerto Plata is. I have to pick her up at an undisclosed location and drive to a cabana on the outskirts because she says everyone knows her. And finally after my incident I can fucking believe it. Other areas are much better for Cupid IMHO.

DownTowner
12-07-12, 20:24
Does anyone have a list of chicas names that would allow me to enter the backdoor that work at BB? I always wanted to try this and I just booked my next trip.

I want to have a list of names before I go so I know who does who doesn't. I'd rather not email the office asking this informaton.

Would I be able to find girl in sosua that would allow this as well?

ThanksJust ask Kristal or Rosa and they will tell you who you need to see. You could just ask the girl culo? A lot of the time they will but say for me not to tell any of the other girls. LOL.

Here is one, I'll let you look around and find her when your there.

OldKool
12-08-12, 03:39
I like to meet my cupid girl in a place other then their city. This give you an edge. You are more in control. Not to mention the chance of running to her old boy friends. If you meet in another city they know that they will be sleeping in a bed with you. Most enjoy being on vacation with you. It is something viewed as rich people stuff. They will sex you to your hearts content. I have never had a bes experience with my cupid girls. Most girls know what is up and what they bring to the table.


I have a few chicks from Cupid who live in Puerto Plata. However, I never stay in POP. They visit me in Sosua. Puerto Plata is just too fucking small dude. Case in point: Earlier this year I told a non-pro who I have been dealing with since my first time up north that I was driving back down to Santo Domingo to get my flight. Keep in mind that I was staying in Sosua and she had come to visit me there. She has a car and good job, etc. Well what my plan actually was was to meet up with one girl for a few minutes then I was going to stay at another chick's house in Puerto Plata for a couple of days. I had planned to meet the first girl at La Sirena which is on the malecon. I parked the car and went inside the store to check out the fine honeys. My regular girl kept calling me but I would not answer. The girl who I was waiting on was running late. I went back to the car to wait for her. Lo and behold my regular girl rides by, rolls down the window, and calls me a fucking liar and drives off. She has not talked to me since. But it is a good thing that the other girl was running late. She saw me alone. Just think what could have happened if the girl I was waiting for would have been on time.

Another girl who I mess with that is married to a gringo had always told me how small Puerto Plata is. I have to pick her up at an undisclosed location and drive to a cabana on the outskirts because she says everyone knows her. And finally after my incident I can fucking believe it. Other areas are much better for Cupid IMHO.

Charles Pooter
12-08-12, 20:17
I have a few chicks from Cupid who live in Puerto Plata. However, I never stay in POP. They visit me in Sosua. Puerto Plata is just too fucking small dude. Case in point: Earlier this year I told a non-pro who I have been dealing with since my first time up north that I was driving back down to Santo Domingo to get my flight. Keep in mind that I was staying in Sosua and she had come to visit me there. She has a car and good job, etc. Well what my plan actually was was to meet up with one girl for a few minutes then I was going to stay at another chick's house in Puerto Plata for a couple of days. I had planned to meet the first girl at La Sirena which is on the malecon. I parked the car and went inside the store to check out the fine honeys. My regular girl kept calling me but I would not answer. The girl who I was waiting on was running late. I went back to the car to wait for her. Lo and behold my regular girl rides by, rolls down the window, and calls me a fucking liar and drives off. She has not talked to me since. But it is a good thing that the other girl was running late. She saw me alone. Just think what could have happened if the girl I was waiting for would have been on time.

Another girl who I mess with that is married to a gringo had always told me how small Puerto Plata is. I have to pick her up at an undisclosed location and drive to a cabana on the outskirts because she says everyone knows her. And finally after my incident I can fucking believe it. Other areas are much better for Cupid IMHO.Mr Enternational, I know you are a very experienced monger so I don't want to argue with the actual point you are making, but I do think the wording you have chosen to express it might confuse those who are not really familiar with the North Coast and are contemplating a first trip here.

Puerto Plata is ten times the size of Sosua in area and population. When I used to live in one gringo apartment block I had a certain circle of acquaintances. Since I have moved to another part of Puerto Plata I have bumped into some of them occasionally, but others I have not seen for two or three years although I know from mutual contacts, Facebook, or DR1 that they are carrying on their usual lives and routines. That would not happen if translated to Sosua where all activity is concentrated into a very much smaller area. I would be bumping into them every week or month.

Of course, if you hunker down with a chica in a villa or offbeat hotel and don't frequent the popular spots, you could avoid meeting people who know you or her, but that would equally apply in any town in the DR.

As I say, I don't want to comment on your central point as I know nothing about Cupid, just on the danger that a newbie casually reading your post might think that Puerto Plata is a village where everybody knows everybody's business and Sosua is a much larger city where you can lead a private life if you choose to, when exactly the opposite is the case. Funnily enough, I was discussing this only the other day with two ex-pats living in Sosua who, now that they have slowed down and the excitement of picking up hookers every night has worn off, are tired of living in the goldfish bowl and have asked me to look out for possible dwellings in Puerto Plata (where rents are cheaper too) where they can live more normal and private lives.

Incidentally, it does not surprise me that you were outed at La Sirena. I think 90% of the time I have met old acquaintances it has been at La Sirena, and two or three times I have arranged to meet people I didn't know we have chosen La Sirena as a well-known location. If anyone wants to meet discreetly, or to avoid being seen in public, La Sirena is the last spot in Puerto Plata to be. And if you just want to do your weekly shopping anonymously there are two other large supermarkets in Puerto Plata, unlike in Sosua.

Dominoe
12-08-12, 20:34
Just ask Kristal or Rosa and they will tell you who you need to see. You could just ask the girl culo? A lot of the time they will but say for me not to tell any of the other girls. LOL.

Here is one, I'll let you look around and find her when your there.If I am not mistaken, I do believe that is Clarise.

Mr Enternational
12-08-12, 22:35
Yeah CP. If you are a veteran Puerto Plata guy then more than likely you know other spots. But 9 times out of 10 if you are a visiting gringo then you will be on the malecon for all to see. Even when I ask chicas from there where to stay they tell me that one hotel that is on the malecon. And when I tell others I am there then they assume I am staying at said hotel as well. That is why I prefer to stay in Sosua. I would rather call girls to come from Puerto Plata to visit me there. That way there won't be a chance of getting caught. Hookers are hookers. I don't give a damn about them seeing me with someone else. That is why I pay them off to be drama free, but a nonpro is a different story. And as I have said before I have not heard of Sosua having a bad stigma among Dominicans the way mongers think. Everyone I know just says it is a town with a beach and won't shun you for staying there.

You Can
12-09-12, 12:40
I am going to do this report in two parts because the first two days I stayed at BB and the next 5 days in Cabarete. Just like to state for the record over the years I have stayed all over the DR in all kinds of settings. I haven't been there in two years and probably won't be back for at least that time again as I much prefer other places. My friends were heading down (3 of them and really wanted me to join them so I reluctently did.) Got what I considered a good price on my flight out of Newark on United 478. 00 with one seat up grade on way down. I then took the business flight up grade once at the airport for 149. 00. Have always been able to get this upgrade out of Newark and always grab it. So My flight ended up being around 550. 00 round trip. Had a few glasses of wine ate breakfast, popped a sleeping pill (Zolpidem) which will knock you out with in minutes of taking it, and was fast a sleep for remainder of flight. Didn't wake up till I touched down. That was nice. Just like to comment about sitting at airport before flight, this is another thing I hate about POP flight. The flight is packed with a bunch of guys going down there to do what everybody and there mother knows. To me its just uncomfortable. Just my opinion.

Got quickly out of airport and was quickly met by my friend and rental car agent Jason from Savings rent a car. I have been renting from Jason for over 10 years and always have good service. I just text him when I will be there and ask for cash price and all is taking care of. Great guy. Just like to mention that my friends were arriving Sunday thru Thursday. I just couldn't see going for that short of time and arrived 3 days earlier as I know many people here and wanted to make my rounds. So off I went.

My first stop was at a friends home in the barrio. Had a couple beers and then on to Cabarete for a little Sun. I prefer cabarete to all other beaches in this immediate area. Got a massage and then a cadilac margarita at Jose O sheas and then headed for my drive to Blackbeards. Was feeling pretty damn good by now! Got to BB said hello to everyone, bought the chicas some beers and had a couple Double brugal aneyo's at the bar and then headed up to take a nice hot shower and put on some nice cloths. I like to dress nice when I travel, and this is another thing I don't prefer about the DR, most people walk around in shorts, sandals and tank tops at night. I do not prefer that. Keep in mind to each his own, its just not what I like. So after getting dressed and looking good I go down and get another Double Brugal and check out the girls and choose Sulaka who I know. We grab a drink to go and jump in my car. I feel like a steak so I take her to Puerto Plata on the circle is a restaurant I always go to called something like La Parridila (sp) I like it here, we drink a bottle of wine and eat some steaks and head back to bb. Have some more drinks here and then to the room. This girl has a nice firm body, nice tits and a small piercing on her lip. Nice BBBJ, total GFE. I like her. Now a good night sleep nice blowjob in the morning and another good fuck. I take a shower and leave her in the room as I always get up very early and don't expect this from the chica. Head down stairs and drink some coffee. Its maybe 6:45 am. Have a few coffees and by now its 8 am. Ready for a few nice OJ with some smirnoff and I head out in the car to Cabarete beach. Hit the beach another nice massage from my girl massage girl Natasha. I was on the beach by 10 and out of there by 4. I love the beach! Cabarete beach water is pretty damn nice and the waves were crashing nice, so I was in the waves a lot today. Very refreshing. On my way back to BB its now about 5 as I round the corner near Crystals I drive along the Ocean as I like the view. Stop at a few little bars here across from the Ocean and chit chat with a few locals very nice. Back to BB shower and Choose Kenya for the night. Sexy small spinner, total GFE. I take her to Pappion for dinner, she likes it very much. Its very nice and secluded the girls always appreciate being taken here. Tonight I feel like playing a little blackjack and I head over to the casino Ocean something? Anyway its a nice place been there many times. Play some blackjack give her some money for slots and all is good. Stop on way out at little bar on left its nice, its also a steak place but we already ate. We get a bottle of wine and sit at one of the tables directley on beach. Real nice. Back to BB one drink as I am feeling no pain and a nice romp in bed. Same thing in morning as yestereday but today is check out day. Say good by to the staff hand out some very nice tips to all the staff that are there and am on my way to Cabarete. Would just like to mention, unfortunately I did have a lot of cockroaches running around my room. I never had this problem before so my it was maybe a fluke but it was gross. I saw at least 4 cockroaches at different times. It would not stop me from staying again, but hopefully this won't happen again, its pretty sick seeing cockroaches running up the wall. I hate to even put this in the report but its only right to report the good and bad. I had a good time at BB and recommend it always for a couple days. The whole place is a lot of fun.

Today I stopped in Sosua for breakfast at Club Havana its very good and the two girls that work there are very nice. I Had a carribean omelet and a cappucino, followed by a double expresso. I like my coffee in the morning! Its now around 11 and I head to the Beach Palace in Cabarete to check in, this place is fucking killer, but pricey. But top of the line, marble thru out huge bed. Top of the line. I mean nice! Use to stay at Ocean Dreams which was real nice, but they don't allow chicas no more so I found this place. Glad I did its top of the line for DR! Definitely recommend. Rest of my report will be in Sosua Section.

Exoticspirit
12-09-12, 16:05
unfortunately I did have a lot of cockroaches running around my room. I never had this problem before so my it was maybe a fluke but it was gross. I saw at least 4 cockroaches at different times. It would not stop me from staying again, but hopefully this won't happen again, its pretty sick seeing cockroaches running up the wall.Which level was your room at? Mine was on the 2nd level and fortunately no roaches seen in my room.

Charles Pooter
12-09-12, 18:57
Would just like to mention, unfortunately I did have a lot of cockroaches running around my room. I never had this problem before so my it was maybe a fluke but it was gross. I saw at least 4 cockroaches at different times. It would not stop me from staying again, but hopefully this won't happen again, its pretty sick seeing cockroaches running up the wall.Could be an exception. We have just been through three weeks of continual rain and the insect life here has gone mad, flooded out of their normal dwelling places. I have seen critters in my apartment I have never seen before.

But if you are coming to a Third World tropical country it doesn't pay to be that squeamish. Cucarachas won't kill you, though I hate scrunching them under my bare foot if I get up for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the night.

Frannie
12-09-12, 22:47
Could be an exception. We have just been through three weeks of continual rain and the insect life here has gone mad, flooded out of their normal dwelling places. I have seen critters in my apartment I have never seen before.

But if you are coming to a Third World tropical country it doesn't pay to be that squeamish. Cucarachas won't kill you, though I hate scrunching them under my bare foot if I get up for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the night.Usually you find cockroaches where there is food available. Perhaps the previous occupant had left some crumbs.

It is almost Christmas and today I was approached by a young woman inside the La Sirena supermarket with a suggestion that we should go to a nearby cabana to assist with her Christmas shopping. Unfortunately I had other things to do and had to turn her down, but it is surprising how an episode like that can give you a rush of testosterone even if you don't really have any intention of going along with it.

RadPoker
12-09-12, 23:24
Headed to BB's from December 19th through the 26th. Never been during the Christmas season and end times. If the world ends on the 21/22 I am glad I will be going out having some fun. I am taking a few electronic gifts. Just wanted to know if I will have any problems with customs? A couple of ipads and a nintendo game. Please let me know if you care to share a drink before the world ends. LOL.

Radpoker

OldKool
12-10-12, 02:05
My first trip to the Dr I was not in Monger mode yet. I was with a friend in Punt Cana standing in front of a bank. A cute young lady who looked like a young school teacher. Approaches as I was talking to couple kids selling candy. We engaged in quick conservation as she spoke some decent english. After five minutes of polite conversation she asked if I wanted my dick sucked. I was shocked. Shortly there after I realized that I could fuck 20 something women once again.


Usually you find cockroaches where there is food available. Perhaps the previous occupant had left some crumbs.

It is almost Christmas and today I was approached by a young woman inside the La Sirena supermarket with a suggestion that we should go to a nearby cabana to assist with her Christmas shopping. Unfortunately I had other things to do and had to turn her down, but it is surprising how an episode like that can give you a rush of testosterone even if you don't really have any intention of going along with it.

ConquerorVal
12-10-12, 02:33
Shortly there after I realized that I could fuck 20 something women once again.Funny thing. Similar thing happened to me in Nanchang, China couple of years ago. I was leaving a hotel lobby with my family and these two very young working girls gave me such looks, only professionals can give. It came to me like a lightning bolt from the sky, that with a few dollars I could fuck young girls again. I have not looked back. Once you taste the elixir of youth, you do not want to stop.

Chris Long
12-10-12, 08:38
Just ask Kristal or Rosa and they will tell you who you need to see. You could just ask the girl culo? A lot of the time they will but say for me not to tell any of the other girls. LOL.

Here is one, I'll let you look around and find her when your there.I had that girl in the picture when I was at BB, she claims she does anal but really can't take much more than an inch or two, not really worth it in my book

Chocoholic
12-10-12, 09:09
How much is culo these days at BB?


Just ask Kristal or Rosa and they will tell you who you need to see. You could just ask the girl culo? A lot of the time they will but say for me not to tell any of the other girls. LOL.

Here is one, I'll let you look around and find her when your there.

You Can
12-11-12, 01:30
1600 peso short time 3600 all night. Or very close to that. I usually just give 2000, and 4000.


How much is culo these days at BB?

You Can
12-11-12, 01:35
I was in D6 which over looks the Jaquizzi, like I said this was not a huge deal because I have stayed in this room and others and never had this problem. I just thought I should mention it because it happened. I like bb and would return without hesitation. Maybe like others said it was the rain or the previous occupant had some food or spilled something like soda. Never had this problem before and hopefully never will again. I really think it was aa fluke.


Which level was your room at? Mine was on the 2nd level and fortunately no roaches seen in my room.

Chocoholic
12-11-12, 04:44
As far as I remember, ST is 1600 and TLN is 3000.

I meant culo add on.


1600 peso short time 3600 all night. Or very close to that. I usually just give 2000, and 4000.

BogieMaker
12-11-12, 07:47
I was in D6 which over looks the Jaquizzi, like I said this was not a huge deal because I have stayed in this room and others and never had this problem. I just thought I should mention it because it happened. I like bb and would return without hesitation. Maybe like others said it was the rain or the previous occupant had some food or spilled something like soda. Never had this problem before and hopefully never will again. I really think it was aa fluke.I was at BB for the Thanksgiving week and was in D6, B1, and B2. The guy I was traveling with was in D5 and A1. Neither of us had any bug related problems. May have been some bad luck on your part.

Frannie
12-11-12, 19:38
Funny thing. Similar thing happened to me in Nanchang, China couple of years ago. I was leaving a hotel lobby with my family and these two very young working girls gave me such looks, only professionals can give. It came to me like a lightning bolt from the sky, that with a few dollars I could fuck young girls again. I have not looked back. Once you taste the elixir of youth, you do not want to stop.That's right. I see guys of my age being marched around Home Depot by their 60-year-old wives buying faucets so that they can remodel their bathroom for Christmas and I wonder if they are truly happy with their station in life. I suppose what you don't have, or never had, you don't miss, but although I am more or less retired from mongering now, I would not have missed a few hundred young pussies for the world.

Sammy Sosa
12-11-12, 21:00
Is it because you are a local celebrity, Frannie?

Would not mind putting a Dominicana on my chrismas list, for sure.


It is almost Christmas and today I was approached by a young woman inside the La Sirena supermarket with a suggestion that we should go to a nearby cabana to assist with her Christmas shopping. Unfortunately I had other things to do and had to turn her down, but it is surprising how an episode like that can give you a rush of testosterone even if you don't really have any intention of going along with it.

MS Clive
12-12-12, 02:15
I was at BB for the Thanksgiving week and was in D6, B1, and B2. The guy I was traveling with was in D5 and A1. Neither of us had any bug related problems. May have been some bad luck on your part.Hey I have seen roaches (large ones) at BB during my multiple trips there. But this to be completely expected from a tropical country and weather such as DR. BB by no means is unclean. It is extremely clean. It is the cleanliness of the girls that is more important to me than is the that of the room.

Can't go wrong with BB if you are into that sort of fishbowl hunting.

Osanhopps
12-12-12, 17:40
My report on Sosua, I arrived on Monday December 3rd where I met with my car from the real estate office and the young lady that I was speaking with on Tagged. Com all at the Puerto Plata airport. In a short drive to my rental The Palms which was $275 for week. I settled in with a six pack of el Presidentes and 1800 tequila which I got at the duty free store. The lady was very nice after speaking with her for about a year on Tagged. (Sorry I do not do photos because she never asked me for anything.) If she had I would post them in a minute. It is just a rule of mine. Since this was my first time to Sosua, I was interested in finding out more about the city and the locals which I heard so much about. But the first few days there it rain all the time. So I stayed in the room which was not bad at all, cable tv, refrig and stove which made economical if you wish to live of the economy. The lady loved it also because now she did not have to wear any cloths which was fine with me. She was short with a perfect ass and hand size breast. She was a treasure, never complained about anything which was fine with me. But she had to leave on Wednesday. So I gave her the rest of the tequila for her family and that brought a big smile to her face and just 1500 pesos for her time.

So once she left I contacted another friend from Tagged and I must say that her picture does not do her any justice whatsoever. This lady was down right beautiful the only problem that I saw was a slight pot belly which can easily be ignored once the cloths came off. We add a good time which I came twice then she had to leave. She wanted to get to the Rumba to pick up some more money before the night was over. I do not blame anyone for trying to get what they need for themselves or their family. This was only another 1500 pesos for the adventure. Then I also went to see D Latin & the Rumba. I must say this, if you can not get laid in Sosua then you have problems. It seems to me that everyone and I mean everyone is ready to serve. I looked at this and it reminded me of Osan AB in Korea in the late 70s. So I was like I been there and done that. No need to relive my earlier years. Went to the beach and found a friend Larry who gave me the up and up on the happenings. We talk for a few hours before we decided to talk later online. I got some bbq from Big D's and everyone told me that he was coming back here on Monday. So got home and went to bed alone this time I think I needed it. The next day I wanted to see what the places looked like at night so I stood on the corner by the Rumba just to get the real feel of the thing, then a young lady walked up who had a great body that I could see she wanted 2000 pesos and I said that I would give you 1500 pesos, what I usually do not like is women with piercing but she was nice and spoke a little English which was refreshing. She left after a very good session which I came in the back door a couple of times. Got up early the next day and walk the town just to sight see and ran up on these two women. One had a great ass and I was not really into doing anything that early in the morning. But they called me over and all they had to do was ask the question and we were off to my place. It has been a while since I had two and thought this would be interesting. We all were walking around the apartment with no cloths on, every half hour or so one would start the action while the other would watch. It was a great time, about 3 pm they both left and I was beat down with a smile on my face. Another 1500 pesos a piece. If you see the pattern, I will not go over that amount. So now it is Saturday and I did not feel up to anything watched a little tv and was sleeping most of the day. Got some chicken from the local stand which I have seen everyone going to and got a whole chicken for 250 pesos. Sunday came along and I decided not to do anything extreme which the Giants game in Spanish which is just as interesting, after the game was a little bored so I decided to take my last trip to town. As I was walking and standing outside D-Latin once again my piercing friend show up and we were off again. She stayed the night and we did not get any sleep. I felt that I could sleep on the plane. All in all I had a great trip, I think Sosua is a little over rated but it is what you desire from the trip. And if you want the best girl experience go to Tagged, you will be surprised what you get out of there.

OldKool
12-12-12, 21:04
I am still very impressed with Sosua. It is not a big fancy place but if you are looking to have sex with pretty young girls BINGO. I use dominican cupid for my GF non pro action. I would never bring a chica to Sosua. The ultimate in sand to the beach.


My report on Sosua, I arrived on Monday December 3rd where I met with my car from the real estate office and the young lady that I was speaking with on Tagged. Com all at the Puerto Plata airport. In a short drive to my rental The Palms which was $275 for week. I settled in with a six pack of el Presidentes and 1800 tequila which I got at the duty free store. The lady was very nice after speaking with her for about a year on Tagged. (Sorry I do not do photos because she never asked me for anything.) If she had I would post them in a minute. It is just a rule of mine. Since this was my first time to Sosua, I was interested in finding out more about the city and the locals which I heard so much about. But the first few days there it rain all the time. So I stayed in the room which was not bad at all, cable tv, refrig and stove which made economical if you wish to live of the economy. The lady loved it also because now she did not have to wear any cloths which was fine with me. She was short with a perfect ass and hand size breast. She was a treasure, never complained about anything which was fine with me. But she had to leave on Wednesday. So I gave her the rest of the tequila for her family and that brought a big smile to her face and just 1500 pesos for her time.

So once she left I contacted another friend from Tagged and I must say that her picture does not do her any justice whatsoever. This lady was down right beautiful the only problem that I saw was a slight pot belly which can easily be ignored once the cloths came off. We add a good time which I came twice then she had to leave. She wanted to get to the Rumba to pick up some more money before the night was over. I do not blame anyone for trying to get what they need for themselves or their family. This was only another 1500 pesos for the adventure. Then I also went to see D Latin & the Rumba. I must say this, if you can not get laid in Sosua then you have problems. It seems to me that everyone and I mean everyone is ready to serve. I looked at this and it reminded me of Osan AB in Korea in the late 70s. So I was like I been there and done that. No need to relive my earlier years. Went to the beach and found a friend Larry who gave me the up and up on the happenings. We talk for a few hours before we decided to talk later online. I got some bbq from Big D's and everyone told me that he was coming back here on Monday. So got home and went to bed alone this time I think I needed it. The next day I wanted to see what the places looked like at night so I stood on the corner by the Rumba just to get the real feel of the thing, then a young lady walked up who had a great body that I could see she wanted 2000 pesos and I said that I would give you 1500 pesos, what I usually do not like is women with piercing but she was nice and spoke a little English which was refreshing. She left after a very good session which I came in the back door a couple of times. Got up early the next day and walk the town just to sight see and ran up on these two women. One had a great ass and I was not really into doing anything that early in the morning. But they called me over and all they had to do was ask the question and we were off to my place. It has been a while since I had two and thought this would be interesting. We all were walking around the apartment with no cloths on, every half hour or so one would start the action while the other would watch. It was a great time, about 3 pm they both left and I was beat down with a smile on my face. Another 1500 pesos a piece. If you see the pattern, I will not go over that amount. So now it is Saturday and I did not feel up to anything watched a little tv and was sleeping most of the day. Got some chicken from the local stand which I have seen everyone going to and got a whole chicken for 250 pesos. Sunday came along and I decided not to do anything extreme which the Giants game in Spanish which is just as interesting, after the game was a little bored so I decided to take my last trip to town. As I was walking and standing outside D-Latin once again my piercing friend show up and we were off again. She stayed the night and we did not get any sleep. I felt that I could sleep on the plane. All in all I had a great trip, I think Sosua is a little over rated but it is what you desire from the trip. And if you want the best girl experience go to Tagged, you will be surprised what you get out of there.

Osanhopps
12-13-12, 18:47
I am still very impressed with Sosua. It is not a big fancy place but if you are looking to have sex with pretty young girls BINGO. I use dominican cupid for my GF non pro action. I would never bring a chica to Sosua. The ultimate in sand to the beach.Normally, I would not bring anyone but as I said this was my first time there. So I believe in a back plan. And I was talking to these lady for almost a year. One was from Santiago the other was from Sosua. And since I met them both I would do it all the same way again.

OldKool
12-13-12, 19:49
When I am in Sosua I lose my mind. No one women can keep me attention there. I am a kid in a candy store.


Normally, I would not bring anyone but as I said this was my first time there. So I believe in a back plan. And I was talking to these lady for almost a year. One was from Santiago the other was from Sosua. And since I met them both I would do it all the same way again.

TravelDude69
12-23-12, 23:22
DR Nights was professional in all of our dealings, as you would expect from the apparent second largest agency in the country. I contacted Marc months early because I wanted a girl to join me at a nudist resort who spoke English. He said there shouldn't be a problem, just look at the girls in their "Local Services" list and fill in the reservation form. I looked and made notes of the English speakers but didn't make a reservation right then because I expected there might be some turn over during the intervening months.

When I finally made my reservation I sent them the names of four girls who were bi-lingual but then I didn't hear back. I finally called and my reservation was still open because I hadn't entered my flight information. I explained that I was coming in two weeks before I needed the girl and leaving a week after we parted. They apologized for the mistake and my reservation was immediately processed. They ran my credit / debit card and my bank suspended my account for the second time, afraid someone had stolen my card. I straightened out my bank but it was suggested to me by experienced travelers that I should have notified my bank that I was planning to travel out of the country so they wouldn't be so paranoid. (And they could give me a list of banks in the country of destination that were on their network.)

One bit of confusion with the website was that they only have actual offices in Punta Cana and Puerto Plata. On the website they list a bunch of places a girl can be delivered to but you have to pay a delivery fee. I needed to do some sight seeing in Puerto Plata so I scheduled to pick up Larimar in Playa Dorada at Coco Bongo. Buying a local phone and purchasing twelve dollars worth of minutes proved very helpful as Coco Bongo filled up with Anglos just before our appointment time. Apparently (Max) was early and waited for half an hour before he called me. (I'd been there an hour, had lunch and drinks.) Larimar was the girl in the picture but she's had her breasts enlarged since the picture was taken. She was great, snuggling and kissing in the taxi all the way to the resort. She'd never been to a nudist resort and it took some getting used to but she remembered that Marc had told her she didn't need to bring any clothes as she would be naked the whole time. (She brought two bags and an over stuffed suitcase that was even more stuffed with two dinner costumes and a Playboy towel I had given her before she left.)

Larimar was great, very affectionate, outgoing and considerate (she made sure I was satisfied at least twice a day). But she didn't get naked in public. She was naked in the room and she wore a sheer beach dress but until she saw that other women had implants she was embarrassed to take off her bra. Then she had it off the rest of the day. We almost had sex on the beach but she was too shy. But back in the room she wasn't shy in the least and she told me later how much she'd enjoyed the foreplay on the beach.

Her English was far from perfect but she was easy to understand and she made sure that people understood my poor Spanish and that I got what I had ordered.

Negatives.

The forms on the website require specific information that might not match your situation and their computer won't process a reservation until all the boxes are filled. Also they require a credit card to process a deposit (Unless you have worked with them before) even in you're in country and minutes away. (And they want to photocopy your credit card and passport so their credit company has no questions about your order being real.)

In Conclusion.

Larimar and DR Nights lived up to their hype and I couldn't be happier. The resort was beautiful, the women were warm and stunning, and I would recommend this opportunity for everyone. If you are reading this, and asking yourself if it could be real. It is. Each day of a DR Nights vacation is equal to a week of regular vacation. Do not question yourself further. Click the link and book a vacation. Check them out at.

www.drnightsadultravel.webs.com

Or at.

www.drnights.org

And enter the Promotional Code: 1743 into the box.

It was the best vacation that I have had in my life and I plan on coming down to visit them many, many more times!

DR nights should be added to the list of Ten Things To Do Before You Die.

Charles Pooter
12-24-12, 16:12
Thanks Dude.

I see their website states "Prices are decent starting out at $790 US for 2 nights and 2 girls". I hate to think what their idea of an indecent price is. Anyone with half a brain and who reads the wh o reboards can have a great time in the DR for US$100 to US$200 per night without needing to book ahead, or use a credit card, or commit to a chica you have never seen in the flesh.

Still, each to his own.

TravelDude69
12-24-12, 17:48
Hi Charles,

If you read carefully their webiste you have also the option to pay cash on arrival. This option is available to all clients.

You can go down and see for yourself, once you believe, you pay (This option is not available on Private villas only resort bookings. Private villas require a min. 30 percent deposit).

I opted for a Private Villa.

Before deciding which girl will be your companion you get to see them in flesh at you arrival. It was a personal decision to pick a girl before getting there. Usually a client upon arrival gets their very own reception party, where they line up at least 15-30 Girls, this is where you will mingle and choose which girl is worthy of being your main companion and which girls will be your daily 2 hr. Companions.

Merry Christmas.

Mr Enternational
12-24-12, 20:35
Hi Charles,

If you read carefully their webiste you have also the option to pay cash on arrival. This option is available to all clients.

You can go down and see for yourself, once you believe, you pay (This option is not available on Private villas only resort bookings. Private villas require a min. 30 percent deposit).

I opted for a Private Villa.

Before deciding which girl will be your companion you get to see them in flesh at you arrival. It was a personal decision to pick a girl before getting there. Usually a client upon arrival gets their very own reception party, where they line up at least 15-30 Girls, this is where you will mingle and choose which girl is worthy of being your main companion and which girls will be your daily 2 hr. Companions.

Merry Christmas.I know there are different strokes for different folks, but I believe you are wasting your time my man. As CP said, even Bill Gates wouldn't be dumb enough to pay $700 for two days when he could go to Black Beards or FOD and pay even less than 1/4 of that for the exact same thing. Myself, I prefer the thousands of free girls around the country or if I do P4P then traditionally I have not paid more than $25 for all night. Back in October was my first time giving a girl $45 for all night. So for $700 on the north coast I could get at least 15 girls at the highest price I have ever paid. You are better off to focus your marketing on people with more bucks than brains and don't know shit from apple butter. Nobody in their right mind would go for that folly.

TravelDude69
12-24-12, 20:59
For those of you unfamiliar with the Escort Service Industry, Erotic Adult Vacation is used to describe the full service provided by a female escort. The adult interaction is guaranteed and leaves nothing out. The exotic Caribbean travel destinations are resorts that cater to sex vacations. These resorts offer all inclusive accommodations with their own private escort services.

Exotic resorts present unique encounters that are sure to ravel your senses and memories worth reminiscing years later.

Dr Nights adult vacation resort is designed for the adult traveler, men, women and couples that are seeking a True Girlfriend Experience adult vacation providing a sensual experience with exotic and beautiful escort / companions. There are no hidden costs. Dr Nights is a all inclusive resort located on the beach. There are water activities nearby, Snorkeling, Scuba Diving, Jet Skis, Sailing and Banana Boat rides. Dr Nights Manager can arrange Golfing, Safari's, and Horseback Riding.

This is a true all-inclusive adult vacation.

Everything is included in your all inclusive adult sex vacation. There are no hidden fees, or tipping required.

All adult erotic companion vacation packages include.

Transportation to and from the airport to our private beachfront resort.

Private suite bedroom / bathroom with A / C, mini-fridge and safe.

Breakfast, lunch and dinner for you and your escort / companion.

All alcohol, soda and water are included and available 24 hours a day from our private open bar.

An escort / companion that is with you 24 hours a day and you can change your escort / companion every day.

Free Wi-Fi and cable TV.

Manager who speaks English and can help translate.

Dr Nights all inclusive vacations are made to suit everyone; from the shy and reserved to the experienced adult traveler that knows just what he is looking for. Everything you could possibly look for is here. For travelers who do not consider themselves 'tourists' it is a place in which to let your mind run wild, with the company of a sexy companion by your side, fascinated by all the features of an ancient culture.

OldKool
12-24-12, 21:12
I have often thought you were a little off but was never sure. This man may drive Mercedes while you like Kia's. No one is right. I think maybe you are a cheap MF. I pay 1000 to 1500 for short term. This is the norm. Truthfully I would never pay $750 in DR for a month of fucking. I doubt if their pussies got any wetter then my 1500 peso chica and I have had some stunners for this price. The most important thing is the guy was happy. It was his money and his decision you need to respect that. He probaly thinks you are a cheap MF for nickle and diming poor DR chicas.


I know there are different strokes for different folks, but I believe you are wasting your time my man. As CP said, even Bill Gates wouldn't be dumb enough to pay $700 for two days when he could go to Black Beards or FOD and pay even less than 1/4 of that for the exact same thing. Myself, I prefer the thousands of free girls around the country or if I do P4P then traditionally I have not paid more than $25 for all night. Back in October was my first time giving a girl $45 for all night. So for $700 on the north coast I could get at least 15 girls at the highest price I have ever paid. You are better off to focus your marketing on people with more bucks than brains and don't know shit from apple butter. Nobody in their right mind would go for that folly.

Mr Enternational
12-24-12, 21:32
Old Kool, I have never been one to go to a place and do as all the foreigners do. I'm not trying to raise any chica's economic status beyond that of what a local would. When I first arrive to a place that I have never been I hop in a taxi and ask him where are all of the fuck spots and how much do YOU pay the girls. Forget how much a vacationing foreigner wants to give a girl. Most guys are always comparing prices to back home which makes no sense at all. And why should I pay more than what the girl is willing to take? Because I want to show her I'm a nice guy? Fuck that. 100+ countries and it has not failed me yet. I'm not around there to feel sorry for anybody. If you feel that sorry for them then just go around passing out money without fucking them. That is sure to prove what a nice guy you are.

Besides you have been on this forum long enough to know that when someone with 1 post shows up and starts "advertising" for an expensive place that it is not because they have been a patron there, but because they are trying to drum up business for themselves and to rip off gullible foreigners who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.


I have often thought you were a little off but was never sure. This man may drive Mercedes while you like Kia's. No one is right. I think maybe you are a cheap MF. I pay 1000 to 1500 for short term. This is the norm. Truthfully I would never pay $750 in DR for a month of fucking. I doubt if their pussies got any wetter then my 1500 peso chica and I have had some stunners for this price. The most important thing is the guy was happy. It was his money and his decision you need to respect that. He probaly thinks you are a cheap MF for nickle and diming poor DR chicas.

Doker44
12-24-12, 21:43
Hi Charles,

If you read carefully their webiste you have also the option to pay cash on arrival. This option is available to all clients.

You can go down and see for yourself, once you believe, you pay (This option is not available on Private villas only resort bookings. Private villas require a min. 30 percent deposit).

I opted for a Private Villa.

Before deciding which girl will be your companion you get to see them in flesh at you arrival. It was a personal decision to pick a girl before getting there. Usually a client upon arrival gets their very own reception party, where they line up at least 15-30 Girls, this is where you will mingle and choose which girl is worthy of being your main companion and which girls will be your daily 2 hr. Companions.

Merry Christmas.2 posts. I really hate it when people like Charles spend so much time giving us great info and many of us try to return the favor to others and then somebody comes on here and posts ads under the disguise of informative posts to make a quick buck. Unless you are someone that needs privacy this is a rip off!

Manizales911
12-24-12, 22:05
I know there are different strokes for different folks, but I believe you are wasting your time my man. As CP said, even Bill Gates wouldn't be dumb enough to pay $700 for two days when he could go to Black Beards or FOD and pay even less than 1/4 of that for the exact same thing. Myself, I prefer the thousands of free girls around the country or if I do P4P then traditionally I have not paid more than $25 for all night. Back in October was my first time giving a girl $45 for all night. So for $700 on the north coast I could get at least 15 girls at the highest price I have ever paid. You are better off to focus your marketing on people with more bucks than brains and don't know shit from apple butter. Nobody in their right mind would go for that folly.Mr. E,

Though I agree with most of what you wrote there are instances whereas paying that kind of money is warranted. The poster could be a high profile CEO or attorney with more than enough money whereas the price means nothing but absolutely needs anonymity and discretion of the highest level in addition to having no spanish skills and no travel experience of this nature. My first sex vacation I dropped over 15K for me and a friend to travel to this type of place in Cartagena. At the time I was married and was the owner of a large corporation and made enough money where the 15K was worth the price for 10 days of banging top shelf Colombianas along with having my best buddy with me and being waited on hand and foot with an english speaking "guide", chef and penthouse. I knew ZERO spanish at that time. To this day it still is one of the best vacations of my life. I would never pay that kind of money now but I have learned spanish and have many many solo trips to the DR and Colombia.

One other point, the owner of DR Nights used to swing through FOD on a regular basis with his harem in tow and I have to say he had the absolute best of the best looking girls you will ever see in the DR. I have had plenty of hot girls in my life so looks is secondary to performance always but the fact of the matter is that when it comes to top shelf girls appearance-wise he has the inventory, believe me.

Please understand that I am NOT shilling for this place, I cringe as much as the next guy when I hear these prices but bottom line is there is a market for this kind of service.

Hillbilly69
12-24-12, 22:32
Mr. E,

Though I agree with most of what you wrote there are instances whereas paying that kind of money is warranted. The poster could be a high profile CEO or attorney with more than enough money whereas the price means nothing but absolutely needs anonymity and discretion of the highest level in addition to having no spanish skills and no travel experience of this nature. My first sex vacation I dropped over 15K for me and a friend to travel to this type of place in Cartagena. At the time I was married and was the owner of a large corporation and made enough money where the 15K was worth the price for 10 days of banging top shelf Colombianas along with having my best buddy with me and being waited on hand and foot with an english speaking "guide", chef and penthouse. I knew ZERO spanish at that time. To this day it still is one of the best vacations of my life. I would never pay that kind of money now but I have learned spanish and have many many solo trips to the DR and Colombia.

One other point, the owner of DR Nights used to swing through FOD on a regular basis with his harem in tow and I have to say he had the absolute best of the best looking girls you will ever see in the DR. I have had plenty of hot girls in my life so looks is secondary to performance always but the fact of the matter is that when it comes to top shelf girls appearance-wise he has the inventory, believe me.

Please understand that I am NOT shilling for this place, I cringe as much as the next guy when I hear these prices but bottom line is there is a market for this kind of service.You ever sit at the New Garden for breakfast, there is a bunch of truly clueless bastards there with Western Novias that are sporting mustaches, dude has his arm wrapped around her like he won the lottery, the girls wanted to try their English on me, ah no thanks! Spent my whole life ignoring skanks and will spend the rest of it doing the same. I travel for the finest ass on the Planet and not the ordinary Butt uglies and leftovers. If I ever end up like some of them dudes please stab me in the eye with an icepick.

Mr Enternational
12-24-12, 23:06
I agree with most of what you wrote there are instances whereas paying that kind of money is warranted. The poster could be a high profile CEO or attorney with more than enough money whereas the price means nothing but absolutely needs anonymity and discretion of the highest level in addition to having no spanish skills and no travel experience of this nature.Man this is 2012. There is no such thing as anonymity anymore. There are always people who not only see or know something, but who are willing to tell. I think Save Pros was the first to post this story:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/01/women-sen-bob-menendez-paid-us-for-sex-in-the-dominican-republic/

Two women from the Dominican Republic told The Daily Caller that Democratic New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez paid them for sex earlier this year.

In interviews, the two women said they met Menendez around Easter at Casa de Campo, an expensive 7, 000-acre resort in the Dominican Republic. They claimed Menendez agreed to pay them $500 for sex acts, but in the end they each received only $100.

The women spoke through a translator in the company of their attorney, Melanio Figueroa. Both asked that their identities remain obscured for fear of reprisals in the Dominican Republic.

When shown a photograph of Sen. Menendez, the women said they recognized him as the man with whom they'the had sexual relations at Casa de Campo this spring. Both said they were brought to the resort with the understanding they would be paid for sex.

Neither knew the identity of the man at the time. Both claimed to recognize him later as Sen. Menendez.

'He called him[self] 'Bob, ' said one.

One woman said Menendez wooed her with compliments like 'beautiful' before they slept together. The other woman recounted, with apparent bitterness, receiving from an intermediary only $100 of the $500 she had been promised.

'He lies, ' she said of Menendez. 'He says one thing and does another. '

Manizales911
12-24-12, 23:13
You ever sit at the New Garden for breakfast, there is a bunch of truly clueless bastards there with Western Novias that are sporting mustaches, dude has his arm wrapped around her like he won the lottery, the girls wanted to try their English on me, ah no thanks! Spent my whole life ignoring skanks and will spend the rest of it doing the same. I travel for the finest ass on the Planet and not the ordinary Butt uglies and leftovers. If I ever end up like some of them dudes please stab me in the eye with an icepick.Hahaha, I was sitting at the bar at NG one night shooting the breeze with Rafael when this guy comes up and starts telling me about his novia and how he found out she was cheating on him, blah blah blah. He had bought her a house and a plot of land for her mother etc, etc, The guy started crying and everything, WTF. I kind of felt bad for the guy but at the same time I was thinking who the fuck buys some girl in the DR a fucking house?

Charles Pooter
12-24-12, 23:21
. who the fuck buys some girl in the DR a fucking house?Possibly the best known monger from this or any other DR wh oreboard, for starters.

Hillbilly69
12-24-12, 23:21
Hahaha, I was sitting at the bar at NG one night shooting the breeze with Rafael when this guy comes up and starts telling me about his novia and how he found out she was cheating on him, blah blah blah. He had bought her a house and a plot of land for her mother etc, etc, The guy started crying and everything, WTF. I kind of felt bad for the guy but at the same time I was thinking who the fuck buys some girl in the DR a fucking house?Fucking hilarious.

ISG's most popular Danyelle became single this morning, there are dudes packing their shit now promising scooters and condos. LMAO

Buscemi
12-24-12, 23:41
Possibly the best known monger from this or any other DR wh oreboard, for starters.If I recall, he bought her a beach bar as well, shortly after he surrendered the house.

She then sold off the bottles when he went back to count beans in NYC.

Hillbilly69
12-24-12, 23:43
Jimmy D R!

Head Pendejo.

Do you remember about 8 years ago * built a house for his "not-a-puta" novia Izzie?

One day he tries to leave to go back to his boring accounting job in NYC, and he gets slapped with an "Impedimiento de Salida" by Izzies uncle, Sr Martinez, the acting Fiscal of Sabaneta. Poor Jimmy had to surrender the title to the house he built the love of his life Izzie or surrender his US passport. This is a true story.

About a year later he returns to the scene of the crime and tells Lou he will buy The Old Shark Baratstall #66 on Sosua Beach. Who does Captain Save.a- Hoe have run the bar, you guessed it, Izzie. What does Izzie do? She sells off all of the inventory when nobody was looking. Some guys will never learn.

Mr Gogo
12-25-12, 00:17
Jimmy D R!

Head Pendejo.

Do you remember about 8 years ago * built a house for his "not-a-puta" novia Izzie?

One day he tries to leave to go back to his boring accounting job in NYC, and he gets slapped with an "Impedimiento de Salida" by Izzies uncle, Sr Martinez, the acting Fiscal of Sabaneta. Poor Jimmy had to surrender the title to the house he built the love of his life Izzie or surrender his US passport. This is a true story.

About a year later he returns to the scene of the crime and tells Lou he will buy The Old Shark Baratstall #66 on Sosua Beach. Who does Captain Save. A- Hoe have run the bar, you guessed it, Izzie. What does Izzie do? She sells off all of the inventory when nobody was looking. Some guys will never learn.Damn, I thought ******* was a major pimp after seeing all the girls he had in the photo gallery. Wow, she got him twice.

OldKool
12-25-12, 02:02
You get a pretty women who is rocking your world it is a dream come true. Some times it is a win win. You are happy and she is to. So many guys have married Dr girls. How the story ends you never know.


If I recall, he bought her a beach bar as well, shortly after he surrendered the house.

She then sold off the bottles when he went back to count beans in NYC.

Buscemi
12-25-12, 02:29
You get a pretty women who is rocking your world it is a dream come true. Some times it is a win win. You are happy and she is to. So many guys have married Dr girls. How the story ends you never know.So you are saying it is normal to buy plot of land and build a cuero a house?
Do you buy escorts houses back in your home country if they are good in bed?

I am sorry, but it sounds like this Jimmy guy did not get laid until he discovered Sosua at age 35.

OldKool
12-25-12, 02:45
We have all read the scandals in the paper where powerful people get caught doing some crazy things with women. They risk great careers and everything. I think the guy used some bad judgement but I do not walk in his shoes. Who knows what he was planning. Right now he looks like a real dum ass no doubt. Good pussy can make you loose your mind.

I have had some.


So you are saying it is normal to buy plot of land and build a cuero a house?

Do you buy escorts houses back in your home country if they are good in bed?

I am sorry, but it sounds like this Jimmy guy did not get laid until he discovered Sosua at age 35.

Questner
12-25-12, 05:09
Have heard the same story once. Any relationship to Glenys Martinez?

Hillbilly69
12-25-12, 11:38
Damn, I thought ******* was a major pimp after seeing all the girls he had in the photo gallery. Wow, she got him twice.You will run into him in Medellin someday, not hard to find, has Levi Blue Jean shorts with his butt crack hanging out, someone needs to buy him some kakis or camo shorts for Christmas with suspenders maybe his ex novia?

Frannie
12-25-12, 22:07
So you are saying it is normal to buy plot of land and build a cuero a house?

Do you buy escorts houses back in your home country if they are good in bed?I may be wrong, so apologies in advance if so, but I think the guy you are talking about may have had a child with this woman, which would explain quite a lot. You would want your son / daughter to grow up in a reasonable environment even if you were no longer with the mother.

Ehunter
12-25-12, 23:17
Something tells me that if we were to compare notes, my encounter would be the same guy as your encounter.


Hahaha, I was sitting at the bar at NG one night shooting the breeze with Rafael when this guy comes up and starts telling me about his novia and how he found out she was cheating on him, blah blah blah. He had bought her a house and a plot of land for her mother etc, etc, The guy started crying and everything, WTF. I kind of felt bad for the guy but at the same time I was thinking who the fuck buys some girl in the DR a fucking house?

TravelDude69
12-26-12, 01:23
I am a healthy and active man in his late 40's. I have had three failed marriages and multiple relationships that were doomed to failure from the start. I was feeling lonely one day and was researching singles resorts. I found many to my liking. They all seemed to lack something. I then stumbled upon The Dominican Republic (DR) as a vacation destination. I found a few exclusive 'Adults Only' resorts. Still, something was missing. Did I really want a vacation where I had to 'work' to look for a companion? I did a simple search and was rewarded by finding Dr Nights Adult Vacations.

I was surprised about the diversity of packages offered. Marc, my VIP host, was very helpful in choosing the right one. I had a hard time deciding upon a girl. So, I chose at first one girl. As I said in my last post I contacted Marc months early because I wanted a girl to join me at a nudist resort who spoke English.

I chose one girl for the first three nights and another girl for the remainder of the trip. I added two other options for more diversity. WOW! I had the stay of a lifetime. I was greeted at the airport by a company rep and taken to the grocery store as I had requested. I was then taken to the most astounding tropical villa I had seen on the islands. I could go on and on.

The girls were top notch. I never wanted for anything. I was cooked for, cleaned for, and pampered in every which way.

I am looking forward to my next trip in April. 2013.

Sincerely,

TravelDude69

Buscemi
12-26-12, 03:11
I may be wrong, so apologies in advance if so, but I think the guy you are talking about may have had a child with this woman, which would explain quite a lot. You would want your son / daughter to grow up in a reasonable environment even if you were no longer with the mother.No apology needed, the subject did not have children with said cuero, she had children from various other Dominican sperm donors.

If I made a baby with a Dominicana, the kid would have a US passport and be well taken care of for sure.

Questner
12-26-12, 05:12
BTW a lot of guys buy a plot for an ex in el campo as a settlement after couple of years with her and help in marriage costs with a proper Dominican guy. A kid is different. Leave him there and he will become a Dominican, taking him out from his mother and his home country may be not absolutely fair and an easy task. Also, why that hatred for nothing towards anyone who does things in his own way?

JonhDoe
12-26-12, 06:02
BTW a lot of guys buy a plot for an ex in el campo as a settlement after couple of years with her and help in marriage costs with a proper Dominican guy. A kid is different. Leave him there and he will become a Dominican, taking him out from his mother and his home country may be not absolutely fair and an easy task. Also, why that hatred for nothing towards anyone who does things in his own way?There are lots of deadbeat fathers out there and ******* is one more, that fat bastard. No wonder he talks shit about Sosua all the time and does not want to set foot there. I heard rumors about that while In Sosua but now I see it must be true.

OldKool
12-26-12, 13:57
The old saying think with your head not dick. DR has some great pussy but when the lights come on go home and pretend it was a dream. AT the end of the day you can not save these girls. Their issue are way greater then our abilities. Trust guys who know it will save you money and heart ache.

QUOTE=Questner; 1365003]BTW a lot of guys buy a plot for an ex in el campo as a settlement after couple of years with her and help in marriage costs with a proper Dominican guy. A kid is different. Leave him there and he will become a Dominican, taking him out from his mother and his home country may be not absolutely fair and an easy task. Also, why that hatred for nothing towards anyone who does things in his own way?[/QUOTE]

Manizales911
12-26-12, 16:43
If I made a baby with a Dominicana, the kid would have a US passport and be well taken care of for sure.The child would only have a U.S. passport if the child's mother cooperated with you and most times they won't because they don't want the child to have something that they can not have. I speak from experience.

Cagep1967
12-26-12, 19:55
The child would only have a U.S. passport if the child's mother cooperated with you and most times they won't because they don't want the child to have something that they can not have. I speak from experience.The dominicana would be stupid not to cooperate for the passport. With the passport, when the kid comes of age he can petition for relatives to come to the states, he can get SS when you retire, she can sue for child support amongst many other benefits.

Manizales911
12-26-12, 20:58
The dominicana would be stupid not to cooperate for the passport. With the passport, when the kid comes of age he can petition for relatives to come to the states, he can get SS when you retire, she can sue for child support amongst many other benefits.I agree 100% but the fact is they don't listen to anybody but their Dominican relatives and friends and these people are both ill informed and stupid in most cases.

OldKool
12-26-12, 22:59
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What a nightmare. Having a child with a Dominican girl. I love dominican women but can you imagine the phone calls and stress of having a child living in the DR. I have seen many gringos with babies there. I had a novia who a daughter by a gringo. I got to know him. He was miserable but girl knew all the legal steps she needed.

QUOTE=Manizales911; 1365293]I agree 100% but the fact is they don't listen to anybody but their Dominican relatives and friends and these people are both ill informed and stupid in most cases.[/QUOTE]

Manizales911
12-26-12, 23:47
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What a nightmare. Having a child with a Dominican girl. I love dominican women but can you imagine the phone calls and stress of having a child living in the DR. I have seen many gringos with babies there. I had a novia who a daughter by a gringo. I got to know him. He was miserable but girl knew all the legal steps she needed.

QUOTE=Manizales911; 1365293]I agree 100% but the fact is they don't listen to anybody but their Dominican relatives and friends and these people are both ill informed and stupid in most cases.[/QUOTE]I have a 3-1/2 year old daughter with a Colombiana. I have had ZERO problems other than trying to get my daughters mother to agree to sign the papers in order for her to receive a USA passport. I think they are afraid I will find a way to take her out of the country but that is impossible without her written permission and even though I have told the entire family this and shown it to them in writing I just don't think they believe it. She has taken no legal steps whatsoever but then again I send her money every month without fail.

The reason I want her to have the passport is so that she can have the option to attend a USA university when the time comes, a degree from a USA school holds much more weight in Colombia than a Colombian degree. It is much harder to obtain a passport when they get older, the best time to do it is when they are very young.

I have had intentions of moving to Colombia but have had some personal setbacks here in the USA that have delayed me. I have full intentions on obtaining a visa based on the fact that I am the father of a Colombian national. In order to do this my daughters mother has to sign papers stating that I financially support my daughter, I am not afraid of this at all because I do support her and would never even think of doing otherwise, not a lot of money but enough to make sure my daughter has what she needs. I travel there often and keep an eye on where the money goes.

I offered many times to move my ex-novia and my daughter to the USA and she has no interest in doing so, I was surprised by that initially but the family bond in Colombia is so tight that she could never leave her parents behind especially her mother.

It has been far from a nightmare for me.

Mr Enternational
12-27-12, 00:07
I have a 3-1/2 year old daughter with a Colombiana. I have had ZERO problems other than trying to get my daughters mother to agree to sign the papers in order for her to receive a USA passport. I think they are afraid I will find a way to take her out of the countryChicks all over Latin America are afraid of this.


She has taken no legal steps whatsoever but then again I send her money every month without fail.What legal steps could she possibly take? You are in another country. It's hard enough getting Colombianos to give anything in Colombia and Americanos to give anything in America. For the law in Colombia to get an American to send something to Colombia. Well fat chance.


I offered many times to move my ex-novia and my daughter to the USA and she has no interest in doing so, I was surprised by that initially but the family bond in Colombia is so tight that she could never leave her parents behind especially her mother.It sounds like your ex is pretty smart. I offered my ex-Colombiana to come on a fiancee visa for 3 months. I would send her to English class, teach her how to drive, and she could get to know my family and my city to see how she liked it and if she would have any problem adjusting. She said no because she wanted to get married first. I just couldn't get it into her how stupid it is to permanently move to a place you have never been with people you have never met, who speak a language you do not know. She suggested that my family visit Cali to meet her. She was missing the point entirely. From there we broke up but remain friends.

Manizales911
12-27-12, 01:35
What legal steps could she possibly take? You are in another country. It's hard enough getting Colombianos to give anything in Colombia and Americanos to give anything in America. For the law in Colombia to get an American to send something to Colombia. Well fat chance.My understanding, and I am no expert, is that she could file (in Colombia) that I wasn't financially supporting the child and the next time I were to enter Colombia I would be held by immigration and taken into custody, I don't know if this is true or not. I am quite aware that if I wanted to stay out of Colombia there isn't shit she could do to me but I have no intention of doing that, I spend a lot of time there and plan on continuing to do so.

Manizales911
12-27-12, 01:42
What legal steps could she possibly take? You are in another country. It's hard enough getting Colombianos to give anything in Colombia and Americanos to give anything in America. For the law in Colombia to get an American to send something to Colombia. Well fat chance.Has anybody heard of these guys, I have. I used to rent from Dickerman,he owns or used to own a shitload of property in Colombia. Well traveled in Colombia and very well connected, if anybody could do it he could.

http://dickerman-overseas.com/english.html

LusciousLouis
12-27-12, 02:35
. I chose one girl for the first three nights and another girl for the remainder of the trip. I added two other options for more diversity. WOW! I had the stay of a lifetime. I was greeted at the airport by a company rep and taken to the grocery store as I had requested. I was then taken to the most astounding tropical villa I had seen on the islands. I could go on and on.

The girls were top notch. I never wanted for anything. I was cooked for, cleaned for, and pampered in every which way.

I am looking forward to my next trip in April. 2013.

Sincerely,

TravelDude69How long were you there for? I checked out the DR Nights' website and all the packages offered seem to be for two of three nights. I really need a 'relaxation' vacation where I can unwind for a couple weeks. I'm thinking of maybe six or seven nights at DR Nights and then move on to another resort for the remainder of the trip.

TravelDude69
12-27-12, 11:44
Yes, it is minimum two girls at Dr Nights. I decided to chose one girl for the first three nights. But thats just me. I was there for a week.

I will wait until next month and sign up for a 3 month membership so I can keep an eye out for which girls I would like to see and keep in touch since I am planning my next trip in April 2013. I already signed up for the affiliate program and started referring people to come down and odds are there will be a few of us and we will probably do the villa thing.

Here is my affiliate link: www.drnights.com/1743.html

Just click on the link, book your vacation and you are good to go!

Buscemi
12-27-12, 13:40
Yes, it is minimum two girls at Dr Nights. I decided to chose one girl for the first three nights. But thats just me. I was there for a week.

I will wait until next month and sign up for a 3 month membership so I can keep an eye out for which girls I would like to see and keep in touch since I am planning my next trip in April 2013. I already signed up for the affiliate program and started referring people to come down and odds are there will be a few of us and we will probably do the villa thing.

Here is my affiliate link:

www.drnights.com/1743.html

Just click on the link, book your vacation and you are good to go!Thanks for the link, your rate for two nights at $2130 is OBSCENE, that is about what is costs me for a 10 day F-U-C-K-A-T-H-O-N including food, booze, and 1-2 chicas average every day.

Different strokes for different folks.

TravelDude69
12-27-12, 14:08
Actually for 2 Nights & 3 days (Caribe suite deluxe room. 1 Companion for 2 Nights 24 hrs. Per night) you can SAVE 21%!. Authorize credit card 50% and pay entire amount in cash on arrival or wire before arrival.

Discount Amount: $332.01.

Grand Total: $1,128. 08

BeersTerry
12-27-12, 19:33
Hey Mr Entenrational.

Did I meet you in Cali airport a few years ago?

We were sitting / talking. You went for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) at boarding call so they pulled you aside to do a drug search and even went as far as pulling your luggage off to check.

You from NY ?

Mr Enternational
12-28-12, 03:19
Hey Mr Entenrational.

Did I meet you in Cali airport a few years ago?

We were sitting / talking. You went for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) at boarding call so they pulled you aside to do a drug search and even went as far as pulling your luggage off to check.

You from NY?Wasn't me.

Bliadun
12-28-12, 13:17
No Pretty Woman success stories?

I've heard from several chicas that sometimes it really works out.

Or was this just BS?


The old saying think with your head not dick. DR has some great pussy but when the lights come on go home and pretend it was a dream. AT the end of the day you can not save these girls. Their issue are way greater then our abilities. Trust guys who know it will save you money and heart ache.

QUOTE=Questner; 1365003]BTW a lot of guys buy a plot for an ex in el campo as a settlement after couple of years with her and help in marriage costs with a proper Dominican guy. A kid is different. Leave him there and he will become a Dominican, taking him out from his mother and his home country may be not absolutely fair and an easy task. Also, why that hatred for nothing towards anyone who does things in his own way?[/QUOTE]

Questner
12-29-12, 04:58
No Pretty Woman success stories?

I've heard from several chicas that sometimes it really works out.

Or was this just BS?[/QUOTE]Nope. One of the Passions girls has married a Swiss guy. There are many other examples, good bad and ugly.

Hillbilly69
12-29-12, 13:20
No Pretty Woman success stories?

I've heard from several chicas that sometimes it really works out.

Or was this just BS?I took a wing man to Medellin in Aug 2010 a big time traveler slash playboy, met a girl that trip, he got married a month or so ago, Oakie a member here got married a while ago. 3 of the posting ex pat members here are living with someone, one has a baby I think.

I have studied guys as though if I was writing a book, always asking what happened to ex's and such. Personally I have flown 6 Colombian chics to the USA, none on Fiance Visas, only one directly from Colombia, other 5 from inside the US after their arrival. Even though that Jimmy bought his novia a house in the DR it is still a hell of alot cheaper than getting married and having kids in the USA. I ain't naive, I know I am carrying a equivalent of a financial ATM between my legs and it would be costly to make a mistake that would cost me half my things or child support on one or more children for 20 years, (I ain't getting snipped) even basic math with guy with an average job would be 4 good DR trips per year on child support payments for 20 years add to that a divorce and more kids and your in monetary value of 4 or more RIO trips for the rest of your life. Dudes that have been single their whole life, workaholics and such would have a tough time adapting to a girl invading their space. As MR E recently stated he tried to talk a girl to the USA but she didn't want to do a fiancee visa, too much can go wrong they have no driver's license, no job so they need to be occupied. If you live in a Northern climate don't bring them in during that time, I did that once.

I got one now after 3. 5 years wants to get married, my mind says no, cheaper to keep her in Colombia pay her rent, college etc, the Catch 22 of bringing them here is you sign a Affidavit of Support to the government which states no matter what you are responsible for her and if she applies for support from the gov in any way shape or form they will sue you, that and I don't want to get married. In time maybe the Laws will change to allow a girl to enter the USA on a large bond from you and in a quicker time than 6 months but I doubt that time is near.

The main reason to travel is because is it cheaper than fucking around in the USA . When you think about bringing them back, think again. If you can survive a divorce and child support after the judge throws your pre-nup out the window than more power to you. The dudes that got taken to the fucking cleaners in the USA by ex girlfriends and wives are not represented on this site because they got too financially damaged to go anywhere, accept for the Man911 LOL.

If you run into one that slows you down for while and you are content, then the relationship ends after time, climb off and climb on another, that is the life we live .

Mr Gogo
12-29-12, 15:32
I took a wing man to Medellin in Aug 2010 a big time traveler slash playboy, met a girl that trip, he got married a month or so ago, Oakie a member here got married a while ago. 3 of the posting ex pat members here are living with someone, one has a baby I think.

I have studied guys as though if I was writing a book, always asking what happened to ex's and such. Personally I have flown 6 Colombian chics to the USA, none on Fiance Visas, only one directly from Colombia, other 5 from inside the US after their arrival. Even though that Jimmy bought his novia a house in the DR it is still a hell of alot cheaper than getting married and having kids in the USA. I ain't naive, I know I am carrying a equivalent of a financial ATM between my legs and it would be costly to make a mistake that would cost me half my things or child support on one or more children for 20 years, (I ain't getting snipped) even basic math with guy with an average job would be 4 good DR trips per year on child support payments for 20 years add to that a divorce and more kids and your in monetary value of 4 or more RIO trips for the rest of your life. Dudes that have been single their whole life, workaholics and such would have a tough time adapting to a girl invading their space. As MR E recently stated he tried to talk a girl to the USA but she didn't want to do a fiancee visa, too much can go wrong they have no driver's license, no job so they need to be occupied. If you live in a Northern climate don't bring them in during that time, I did that once.

I got one now after 3. 5 years wants to get married, my mind says no, cheaper to keep her in Colombia pay her rent, college etc, the Catch 22 of bringing them here is you sign a Affidavit of Support to the government which states no matter what you are responsible for her and if she applies for support from the gov in any way shape or form they will sue you, that and I don't want to get married. In time maybe the Laws will change to allow a girl to enter the USA on a large bond from you and in a quicker time than 6 months but I doubt that time is near.

The main reason to travel is because is it cheaper than fucking around in the USA. When you think about bringing them back, think again. If you can survive a divorce and child support after the judge throws your pre-nup out the window than more power to you. The dudes that got taken to the fucking cleaners in the USA by ex girlfriends and wives are not represented on this site because they got too financially damaged to go anywhere, accept for the Man911 LOL.

If you run into one that slows you down for while and you are content, then the relationship ends after time, climb off and climb on another, that is the life we live.Good post bro. You are the new Jao except you are funny and as shit. You give the best info on this board and Colombia.

I travel and fuck because it is so easy to disconnect, I just hop on a plane. In the US there is always some fallout of a relationship, women don't like losing. In the US its a competition. Women arent very understanding when you want to be alone, they look at it as being disrespectful.

I really don't get guys that marry these Dominicanas and move them to the States. Most don't adjust well to other cultures. Most don't have domestic skills. They are just an arm trophy. The Asians are more submissive and traditional. Colombianas make beautiful babies but I hear they are materialistic when brought to the US. But marry a Dominicana and move them to the States? You need your head examined because something must be wrong with you mentally. The Canadians marry these girls regularly and six months later they are in El Flow fucking around. I don't know of ANY success stories when exporting Dominicanas.

OldKool
12-29-12, 15:48
Several girls I know have friends who have married or are living with foreign guys. This gives them hope that some day their prince or sucker will come.


Nope. One of the Passions girls has married a Swiss guy. There are many other examples, good bad and ugly.[/QUOTE]

Hillbilly69
12-29-12, 21:51
Good post bro. You are the new Jao except you are funny and as shit. You give the best info on this board and Colombia.Jaosousa has more knowledge about the DR in his shoelace than I will ever have barring me living there, he fell into a common trap that is after a person travels an X amount of times they think they know something and start to preach or comment on everything, commonly known as Surfer syndrome. LMAO

Buscemi
12-29-12, 22:06
Jaosousa has more knowledge about the DR in his shoelace than I will ever have barring me living there, he fell into a common trap that is after a person travels an X amount of times they think they know something and start to preach or comment on everything, commonly known as Surfer syndrome. LMAOWho is this Jaosousa guy folks keep mentioning, is he some sort of monger superhero?

BeersTerry
12-29-12, 23:42
Surfer syndrome. Very funny. I think he is hiding out / preaching back in Thailand.

Gringos hear the words "I love you" and think the chica means it.

Tempoecorto
12-30-12, 05:57
Jaosousa has more knowledge about the DR in his shoelace than I will ever have barring me living there, he fell into a common trap that is after a person travels an X amount of times they think they know something and start to preach or comment on everything, commonly known as Surfer syndrome. LMAOWell, preaching was not his problem. Many here have that syndrome. What I think was (is) his problem was his absolutist belief that his was the ONLY path to nirvana. Compared to say, live and let live. Of Gogo, Manizales, Frannie or Pooter here; also a little sense of humor helps. On the other hand, he is generous with his time and counsel, and I hear even with money, in person.

Llttf
12-30-12, 14:46
Who is this Jaosousa guy folks keep mentioning, is he some sort of monger superhero?He is right up there with Cuba Dave. Us mere mortals can only dream of having their knowledge on Sosua.

OldKool
12-30-12, 17:01
Jao was way more sophisticated then Cuba dave. Jao hated Sosua for some reason. He could be very condocending with his opinions. He had plenty of game and could function.

Very well. His language ability and knowledge of the DR is legendary but most guys are not trying for that level. I bumped heads with him over Sosua. I enjoy Sosua and can function in SD. I think Sosua is the best monger spot in the DR no question. Jao had developed an approach that he considered better.


He is right up there with Cuba Dave. Us mere mortals can only dream of having their knowledge on Sosua.

Charles Pooter
12-30-12, 17:24
On the other hand, he is generous with his time and counsel, and I hear even with money, in person.I can vouch for that. A generous host and great company. Parochial views on Oliver Cromwell, though.

Manizales911
12-30-12, 20:44
Who is this Jaosousa guy folks keep mentioning, is he some sort of monger superhero?He is a member here who was a superhero in his own mind. He thought that because he had over 3000 posts that whatever he said was gospel and not to be disputed, I hate people like that. He contributed more to the DR board than anyone else but that didn't give him the right to shit on people that didn't agree with what he wrote. I for one don't miss him.

Manizales911
12-30-12, 20:52
Several girls I know have friends who have married or are living with foreign guys. This gives them hope that some day their prince or sucker will come.

Nope. One of the Passions girls has married a Swiss guy. There are many other examples, good bad and ugly.Dominican h00kers marrying foreigners is very very common, I personally know several. As a matter of fact a long time friend and well known former Blackbeards girl named D**ca just moved to New York two months ago and got married, I couldn't be more happy for her and her children.

Tempoecorto
12-30-12, 21:19
I can vouch for that. A generous host and great company. Parochial views on Oliver Cromwell, though.Ah. His Irish heritage might have contributed to the Cromwell thing. LOL.

Kc Talent
12-30-12, 21:43
I can vouch for that. A generous host and great company. Parochial views on Oliver Cromwell, though.I too can vouch for that. My 1st visit to SD would have been a bad trip to that part of the island but his information provided 3 great fucking days of a super good time. He is missed and we can agree not forgotten.

Riky Rapido
12-30-12, 23:14
Dominican h00kers marrying foreigners is very very common, I personally know several. As a matter of fact a long time friend and well known former Blackbeards girl named D**ca just moved to New York two months ago and got married, I couldn't be more happy for her and her children.[/QUOTE]With unemployment around 45% and 4 out of 5 women out of work, no social back up system for these women with children, what's a chica to do to feed her kids? After living here for 4 years, I have met few bad pineapples. You got to respect these women for having the courage to do what they do. As someone wrote about a BB chica, she told him that everytime she turns a trick, she loses a piece of her heart.

OldKool
12-31-12, 02:32
One of the reasons I learned Spanish was to make my time and their time a little more enjoyabe. I am not sure how much of a difference it makes. I think it is a little scarry sleeping with a total stanger for the ladies. They provide us a with a great deal of pleasure. I have never understoodd the guys who treat them like shit. No doubt there are some hard core chica and I understand that as well. I have made friends with some of the putas I have been with and like them as people.


Dominican h00kers marrying foreigners is very very common, I personally know several. As a matter of fact a long time friend and well known former Blackbeards girl named D**ca just moved to New York two months ago and got married, I couldn't be more happy for her and her children.With unemployment around 45% and 4 out of 5 women out of work, no social back up system for these women with children, what's a chica to do to feed her kids? After living here for 4 years, I have met few bad pineapples. You got to respect these women for having the courage to do what they do. As someone wrote about a BB chica, she told him that everytime she turns a trick, she loses a piece of her heart.[/QUOTE]

Bliadun
12-31-12, 07:54
Any success stories after 1, 2 or 3 years after living with ex puta?


Dominican h00kers marrying foreigners is very very common, I personally know several. As a matter of fact a long time friend and well known former Blackbeards girl named D**ca just moved to New York two months ago and got married, I couldn't be more happy for her and her children.With unemployment around 45% and 4 out of 5 women out of work, no social back up system for these women with children, what's a chica to do to feed her kids? After living here for 4 years, I have met few bad pineapples. You got to respect these women for having the courage to do what they do. As someone wrote about a BB chica, she told him that everytime she turns a trick, she loses a piece of her heart.

Traveler04
12-31-12, 16:44
I was pleased to learn that D* married and moved to the USA. I saw some of her photos and outside of dealing with the cold on NY she seems to be adjusting. I know at least 6 women (all from BB's) that are living the USA now with a mixed bag of results but most are positive.

When I first started to go the DR it all about the numbers for me. How many girls. Once in a while I made a bit more of a connection. I was generous to a fault with all of then. As my Spanish abilities grew I was able to get to know the girls on a different level which made my experiences better. I also understood that many (not all) believed that the lifestyle was affording their children / family a better life. I am sure we know what the job prospects are for an uneducated women from the DR are. Several women I know that have degrees from a University and can not find work. As discussed in earlier posts the education system in the DR is broken and the Private Schools (where most of the girls pay to send their children) are not much better.

I hope we here of more success stories like D* as she is a wonderful person.

Chocoholic
12-31-12, 19:28
I'm thinking about learning some Dominican dances while staying at BB.

Any ideas where to find a teacher in Costambar or maybe use some chica as a teacher?

Bliadun
12-31-12, 20:13
However, I can understand the choice chicas make. Life in poverty is not the best alternative. If chica can find a husband in the States, I suppose she is really smart.


Dominican h00kers marrying foreigners is very very common, I personally know several. As a matter of fact a long time friend and well known former Blackbeards girl named D**ca just moved to New York two months ago and got married, I couldn't be more happy for her and her children.With unemployment around 45% and 4 out of 5 women out of work, no social back up system for these women with children, what's a chica to do to feed her kids? After living here for 4 years, I have met few bad pineapples. You got to respect these women for having the courage to do what they do. As someone wrote about a BB chica, she told him that everytime she turns a trick, she loses a piece of her heart.[/QUOTE]

Bliadun
12-31-12, 20:23
Couldn't agree more, learning some Spanish helps very much with quality of your experience.

As for the guys treating girls badly, I think that social stigma associated with profession is the main reason. Those treating girls like shit don't know what they are loosing.


One of the reasons I learned Spanish was to make my time and their time a little more enjoyabe. I am not sure how much of a difference it makes. I think it is a little scarry sleeping with a total stanger for the ladies. They provide us a with a great deal of pleasure. I have never understoodd the guys who treat them like shit. No doubt there are some hard core chica and I understand that as well. I have made friends with some of the putas I have been with and like them as people.

With unemployment around 45% and 4 out of 5 women out of work, no social back up system for these women with children, what's a chica to do to feed her kids? After living here for 4 years, I have met few bad pineapples. You got to respect these women for having the courage to do what they do. As someone wrote about a BB chica, she told him that everytime she turns a trick, she loses a piece of her heart.

Yanqui69
12-31-12, 22:59
However, I can understand the choice chicas make. Life in poverty is not the best alternative. If chica can find a husband in the States, I suppose she is really smart.

With unemployment around 45% and 4 out of 5 women out of work, no social back up system for these women with children, what's a chica to do to feed her kids? After living here for 4 years, I have met few bad pineapples. You got to respect these women for having the courage to do what they do. As someone wrote about a BB chica, she told him that everytime she turns a trick, she loses a piece of her heart.In the DR, an "honest job" (if you are lucky enough to find one) pays very poorly (only a few hundred dollars a month). And prices for most things in the DR are comparable to in the US. Mostly a hand to mouth existence, and little chance for getting ahead (car, house).

Compared to that, prostitution offers much better money, but with its own costs.

Most mongers there are not Brad Pitt, or Denzel Washington, and some get off on treating a chica like a "worthless ho,"

So I don't begrudge a girl for earning more than a laborer or office worker; she earns the money she makes.

(Imagine your enthusiasm for giving oral sex to an ugly, fat, old, or drunk, obnoxious woman).

Its a rare chica that doesn't spend the money as fast as she earns it. If not on herself, on her kids, etc.

Most choose to live well in the present, as they seem incapable of planning far into the future. And really can't count on tomorrow.

The girls appreciate it when a guy treats them well (meaning with a little consideration or respect). It makes the work much easier, and they dread, and try to avoid, the abusive types if possible.

The absolute best thing that can happen to a chica is if a guy offers them a way off the island; its like winning the lottery.

A chance to live in a functional society, a job that pays a decent living, etc.

There is very little to look forward to in the DR, unless one comes from a wealthy family.

Some marry just for the papers, (who could blame them?) but I can't label them all the same. I believe some actually have feelings for a guy who treats them well.

Would avoid going that route until after one really gets to know the girl really well. And you can't do that with pointy-talky Spanish.

LoveVegas
01-01-13, 15:30
Can anyone advise the best way to get taxi from sti to black beards. Just as good getting one at the airport outside? Or is there cheaper way to go and looking into bus just want get in cab and go. Any info would be great thanks.

Frannie
01-01-13, 21:25
Can anyone advise the best way to get taxi from sti to black beards. Just as good getting one at the airport outside? Or is there cheaper way to go and looking into bus just want get in cab and go. Any info would be great thanks.What time of day? You can get taxi from STI to Santiago Caribe Tours or Metro bus station for $20. You could negotiate with taxista en route re all the way to BB. Also there are taxis at the bus stations with whom you could also negotiate, perhaps cheaper than the taxis at the airport.

Riky Rapido
01-02-13, 00:01
Can anyone advise the best way to get taxi from sti to black beards. Just as good getting one at the airport outside? Or is there cheaper way to go and looking into bus just want get in cab and go. Any info would be great thanks.There are several ways, but do not spend a huge wad of bucks getting to BB's. First, at the airport there is public transport into Santiago. First option is if you travel light, take a taxi to the rotunda, then a guagua, small bus to Puerto Plata. Guaguas leave every few minutes. The taxi should cost around 500 pesos from the airport. Always ask the price before getting into a taxi. The guagua will let you off at the entrance to Costumbar. Take a motorcycle taxi from there. 100 pesos. The 2nd option is more expensive. Take the taxi to a CaribTours bus to Puerto Plata, then a motorcycle taxi will back track to Costumbar for about 100 pesos. Good luck. Worth the trip

Yanqui69
01-03-13, 00:46
Can anyone advise the best way to get taxi from sti to black beards. Just as good getting one at the airport outside? Or is there cheaper way to go and looking into bus just want get in cab and go. Any info would be great thanks.Taxi from STI to BB = about $120 US.

Taxi to Caribe Tours = about $25.

Caribe Tours, STI to POP (downtown) = about $3 US.

Taxi from POP Caribe Tour station to BB, = about $25 US.

This may be rehashing, but if you arrive late in STI, you'd be better off getting a room for the night.

For cheap digs, suggest you look up "AirBNB" on the web. Cheap rooms in private apartments / residences.

Should be able to find overnight accomodations for about $35 US.

Then in the morning, look at options 2 through 4 above.

Hillbilly69
01-03-13, 00:58
Can anyone advise the best way to get taxi from sti to black beards. Just as good getting one at the airport outside? Or is there cheaper way to go and looking into bus just want get in cab and go. Any info would be great thanks.Start asking guys on your plane where they are going before they board to go to Santiago, and continue to ask when you arrive in Santiago waiting in line for a tourist card and such, one guy got a free Limo ride North to Sosua last time back, even if they drop you off in Puerto Plata still beats the alternative.

PussyHunter007
01-06-13, 07:28
Who is this Jaosousa guy folks keep mentioning, is he some sort of monger superhero?He asked to be removed from here because some people disrespected him. He would always help out people. He disliked Sosua but knew how to use Santo Domingo to his advantage. He was kind-hearted.

Joe Shmoe
01-06-13, 22:34
How is PP different from Sosua in terms of mongering, why would someone pick PP as opposed to the more popular Sosua? When I was in Sosua, I stopped by PP just for Crystal's as recommended by a cab driver.

Sabor
01-07-13, 00:12
He asked to be removed from here because some people disrespected him. He would always help out people. He disliked Sosua but knew how to use Santo Domingo to his advantage. He was kind-hearted.I hung out with him in SD. Really nice guy who took me under his wing and showed me around without asking for anything in return. Mr. Gogo introd us and he really went out of his way to help you out. Real shame he is gone and shame on the bozo's on this board who dissed him.

OldKool
01-07-13, 02:34
Sosua is a small beach resort with bars and discos. The whole place is a red light distract. All evening is filled with Hos and tricks. PP is regular town. There are some working girls but it is not concentrated. Crystals is a terrible over priced casa. Cab drivers get paid to bring newbies there. They charge 3 times the normal rate. No one reccommends the place.
How is PP different from Sosua in terms of mongering, why would someone pick PP as opposed to the more popular Sosua? When I was in Sosua, I stopped by PP just for Crystal's as recommended by a cab driver.

Charles Pooter
01-07-13, 17:15
How is PP different from Sosua in terms of mongering, why would someone pick PP as opposed to the more popular Sosua? When I was in Sosua, I stopped by PP just for Crystal's as recommended by a cab driver.Puerto Plata is eight times the population and area of Sosua but there is far less point and click mongering with full-time working girls as far as gringos are concerned. If you have some of the necessary assets Pto Pta is way better for picking up non-pros or semi-pros. I define semi-pros as chicas who don't get up in the morning hoping or expecting to sell their bodies for cash as they have other main sources of income (a job or living off their families or boyfriends) but would often grab the opportunity to do so if offered.

Everyone should visit Cristal once just for the experience as there is no similar place on the North Coast, though several in Santo Domingo. Drinks and chicas are rip-off prices but some guys take phone numbers and arrange meetings when chicas are off duty. This is not as easy as it sounds as most of the girls are indentured labor. To me it isn't worth the hassle but some guys think they are getting some sort of bargain by doing this. The girls can look very different without their skimpy dresses and masses of make-up. To me, they look better in civvies but no different or better than those at Blackbeards, Field of Dreams or elsewhere so why bother?

I always find Cristal rather sad. So many attractive girls (some of them very sweet and not at all hardcore) and so few customers. I have rarely seen more than 8 or 10 guys there, and some of those paying no attention to the girls, with 30 or 40 chicas.

Geolopes
01-07-13, 22:50
Dates: 12/30/12 to 1/6/13. Jenny's market exchange rate during trip: 40. 05 increasing to 40. 20 pesos to the USD. 1,000 pesos=$24. 88. BB's short time 1, 600 pesos ($39. 80) long time / all night 3, 000 pesos ($74. 63). Note the slight discount for LT."Happy hour" daytime 2-1 special rumored at 3, 000 pesos, did not partake.

Left home way early for my northeastern US airport right at the tail end of an 8 inch snowstorm. Plane left miraculously on time and I was the first person in line at the TSA gate. Watched them open it, nobody else around. Allowed in and had the entire airport to myself for about 15 minutes. Eerie. Full plane with a socially inadequate older Latina lady on my left and a heavy coughing guy on the aisle. He was sick, Ebola I think. Mr. Ebola guy liked to cough into my uncovered orange juice as I was sleeping. Entered the "denial" phase first (He's not that sick, maybe he's not contagious anymore?) Then my "bargaining" phase began (maybe his disease has a long incubation period and I won't get the ebola till after my trip?) Only thing I did get was a mild case of the trots towards the end of the trip. Caught my MIA connection to POP and got there early too. Nice. No free rum samples this time after paying the usual $10 tourist fee. What's up with that? Instead, they had some semi-hot way too light skinned barbie dolls (not representative of the real DR) wave to us before we ambled on by the meregue band guys. OK, whatever.

Original plan called for meeting 3 severely experienced monger friends at Sosua but couldn't match their itinerary. Fuck Sosua, I'm sick of that place anyway. My friends report the scene there declining but Passions remains a safe bet, though more coin than your usual street skanks of course, but predictable. Met my appointed taxi mafia ride at POP as planned, sent by BB's. No need to pay him direct, its added to your bill on arrival. Obligatory stop at Jenny's market, Costambar for dinero exchange on the way in, better rate than elsewhere on the North Coast. Counting party ensued as exactly $1, 000 USD became $40, 050 of monopoly money. Love the plastic 20 peso notes. I passed by my friends walking back from an errand, giving them the finger as I drove on by. Fuckers! How dare you come here without me for 3 days. Paid my room bill upon arrival in pesos as usual, another counting party. This is my 7th or 8th BB's trip. Lost count.

Pounded out my share of chicas but took it easy on the booze early having had a routine colonoscopy only 2 days earlier. Felt OK though, just wanted to pace myself. Basically 2 chicas per day more or less worked for me. Took a night off one night but did 3 on another day. Went to the beach to swim only once just to say that I did. Had a couple of meals offsite. Enjoyed a good pizza with the boys on night #1 at Sola Mia's Italian joint around the corner. Very good. Will repeat. Ate the vast majority of meals at BB's. Cost of a good breakfast $8-$11 depending on how much you pig out. A good 4 course dinner at BB's will run you maybe $18-25 depending on appetite. 10% tip included on all bar / meal tabs. I support this, no need to tip but a few clinkers on the table for good service goes a long way. BB's booze prices up a bit owing to govt. Taxes and other bullshit. A Presidente beer at 120-130 pesos now. Room prices remain the same. Mine was $60 USD per night and was fine. Uber clean as always, try not to trip over the maids. Tipped my maid $20 at the end of my stay and left her some of my old clothes from home. I do this every time. Enjoyed hanging out with my team and we met a couple of other cool guys that we vetted and embraced as our own. The boys left me on 1/2/13 and BB's became a target rich environment as other guests left after New Years as well. Probably less than 1/2 full, if that, but place was booked upon my arrival on 12/30/12. Took a side trip with the team to FOD for diversion. FOD was dead with no real lookers, mostly the usual single mom street chicas looking for a trick. I get that.

The Chicas at BB's took to calling me,"El Diablo", the devil. I'm nice to them of course but they do talk with each other about us, just as we do about them. Spent many moments in the Jacuzzi warming up with a chica before pounding it out later in the room. After nutting so many times, it usually takes me a good 1/2 hour of solid pounding it out to get off. Hey, its good cardio! Most of the girls seemed to appreciate my 30-45 minutes per day "stairmaster" at home workout stamina performance initially, but even they can get worn out after a while. Word got around. Good workouts for me though. Not my problem, I'm on vacation, need my exercise. Would like the BB's jacuzzi to be 5 degrees warmer but if it was summer the temp would be about right I guess. Weather was pleasant, not too warm at all, comfortable, only a little rain. Nights were almost too cool.

Left on 1/5/13 with heavy heart. As it was "Little Christmas" that day, American naturally oversold the MIA flight. Nine (9) fellow gringos took up AA's offer for the $700 flight voucher, free hotel room (Playa Dorada for me) and round trip taxi service. So I flew out the next day instead. Had to wait till the flight was boarded to finally get our voucher, room, and ride. Took way too long, but that's the typical Dominican way, isn't it? AA put me up at the "Celuisma Tropical Playa Dorada Resort & Spa" located inside the infamous Playa Dorada compound. Fucking dump, typical "all inclusive" tourist gulag, only way below standard. Deferred maint. Is the order of the day here. Had to take the top off my shitter every single time I needed to flush my turd. Typical buffet pabulum left out just long enough to allow the big, black flies sufficient time to finish their meals. Hey, flies got to eat too! I had the shits by this time anyway so my food intake was somewhat limited. The place was populated with lower middle class Gringo elderly couples, families with kids, and some younger M / F couples whose chucklehead spouses and / or boyfriends really ought to know better than to take their women to a shitehole place like this. Have some fucking class man. My room was an ice box, needed a sleeping bag just to sleep. Upon arrival and my obligatory 360 degree inner / outer security perimeter check, decided to grab a beer at some Hard Rock Cafe knockoff place in their little town center a short walk away. Enjoyed my 400 peso beer. Place was nearly empty. Bought a big bottle of drinking water as hotel instructions warned against the tap water. Nice. Nothing but lots of empty faux stores and other empty resort "restaraunts" inside the Celuisma, along with plenty of young Dominican kids pissing in their pool. Their beach was fairly adequate though. Tried as I might not to be noticed at their mess hall, I stood out nevertheless, reading back issues of my local newspaper. The coffee was good.

Took a short run on the beach next morning just to say that I did and entered their mess hall in full workout sweat mode. Retrieved my own silverware and dug in with the other tourist acting like locusts stripping a eucalyptus tree. My driver was blissfully early at my 1:00 PM checkout so I took him across the street to FOD as part of his training. How the fuck does ANY local taxi driver NOT know about this place. He appreciated his training. Nobody was there but the usual street skanks waiting on tricks. Flew out a few hours later, late owing to the typical clusterfuck of passengers not knowing how to board a plane.

END OF REPORT

OldKool
01-08-13, 01:44
How many different women in thee pictures.


Dates: 12/30/12 to 1/6/13. Jenny's market exchange rate during trip: 40. 05 increasing to 40. 20 pesos to the USD. 1,000 pesos=$24. 88. BB's short time 1, 600 pesos ($39. 80) long time / all night 3, 000 pesos ($74. 63). Note the slight discount for LT."Happy hour" daytime 2-1 special rumored at 3, 000 pesos, did not partake.

Left home way early for my northeastern US airport right at the tail end of an 8 inch snowstorm. Plane left miraculously on time and I was the first person in line at the TSA gate. Watched them open it, nobody else around. Allowed in and had the entire airport to myself for about 15 minutes. Eerie. Full plane with a socially inadequate older Latina lady on my left and a heavy coughing guy on the aisle. He was sick, Ebola I think. Mr. Ebola guy liked to cough into my uncovered orange juice as I was sleeping. Entered the "denial" phase first (He's not that sick, maybe he's not contagious anymore?) Then my "bargaining" phase began (maybe his disease has a long incubation period and I won't get the ebola till after my trip?) Only thing I did get was a mild case of the trots towards the end of the trip. Caught my MIA connection to POP and got there early too. Nice. No free rum samples this time after paying the usual $10 tourist fee. What's up with that? Instead, they had some semi-hot way too light skinned barbie dolls (not representative of the real DR) wave to us before we ambled on by the meregue band guys. OK, whatever.

Original plan called for meeting 3 severely experienced monger friends at Sosua but couldn't match their itinerary. Fuck Sosua, I'm sick of that place anyway. My friends report the scene there declining but Passions remains a safe bet, though more coin than your usual street skanks of course, but predictable. Met my appointed taxi mafia ride at POP as planned, sent by BB's. No need to pay him direct, its added to your bill on arrival. Obligatory stop at Jenny's market, Costambar for dinero exchange on the way in, better rate than elsewhere on the North Coast. Counting party ensued as exactly $1, 000 USD became $40, 050 of monopoly money. Love the plastic 20 peso notes. I passed by my friends walking back from an errand, giving them the finger as I drove on by. Fuckers! How dare you come here without me for 3 days. Paid my room bill upon arrival in pesos as usual, another counting party. This is my 7th or 8th BB's trip. Lost count.

Pounded out my share of chicas but took it easy on the booze early having had a routine colonoscopy only 2 days earlier. Felt OK though, just wanted to pace myself. Basically 2 chicas per day more or less worked for me. Took a night off one night but did 3 on another day. Went to the beach to swim only once just to say that I did. Had a couple of meals offsite. Enjoyed a good pizza with the boys on night #1 at Sola Mia's Italian joint around the corner. Very good. Will repeat. Ate the vast majority of meals at BB's. Cost of a good breakfast $8-$11 depending on how much you pig out. A good 4 course dinner at BB's will run you maybe $18-25 depending on appetite. 10% tip included on all bar / meal tabs. I support this, no need to tip but a few clinkers on the table for good service goes a long way. BB's booze prices up a bit owing to govt. Taxes and other bullshit. A Presidente beer at 120-130 pesos now. Room prices remain the same. Mine was $60 USD per night and was fine. Uber clean as always, try not to trip over the maids. Tipped my maid $20 at the end of my stay and left her some of my old clothes from home. I do this every time. Enjoyed hanging out with my team and we met a couple of other cool guys that we vetted and embraced as our own. The boys left me on 1/2/13 and BB's became a target rich environment as other guests left after New Years as well. Probably less than 1/2 full, if that, but place was booked upon my arrival on 12/30/12. Took a side trip with the team to FOD for diversion. FOD was dead with no real lookers, mostly the usual single mom street chicas looking for a trick. I get that.

The Chicas at BB's took to calling me,"El Diablo", the devil. I'm nice to them of course but they do talk with each other about us, just as we do about them. Spent many moments in the Jacuzzi warming up with a chica before pounding it out later in the room. After nutting so many times, it usually takes me a good 1/2 hour of solid pounding it out to get off. Hey, its good cardio! Most of the girls seemed to appreciate my 30-45 minutes per day "stairmaster" at home workout stamina performance initially, but even they can get worn out after a while. Word got around. Good workouts for me though. Not my problem, I'm on vacation, need my exercise. Would like the BB's jacuzzi to be 5 degrees warmer but if it was summer the temp would be about right I guess. Weather was pleasant, not too warm at all, comfortable, only a little rain. Nights were almost too cool.

Left on 1/5/13 with heavy heart. As it was "Little Christmas" that day, American naturally oversold the MIA flight. Nine (9) fellow gringos took up AA's offer for the $700 flight voucher, free hotel room (Playa Dorada for me) and round trip taxi service. So I flew out the next day instead. Had to wait till the flight was boarded to finally get our voucher, room, and ride. Took way too long, but that's the typical Dominican way, isn't it? AA put me up at the "Celuisma Tropical Playa Dorada Resort & Spa" located inside the infamous Playa Dorada compound. Fucking dump, typical "all inclusive" tourist gulag, only way below standard. Deferred maint. Is the order of the day here. Had to take the top off my shitter every single time I needed to flush my turd. Typical buffet pabulum left out just long enough to allow the big, black flies sufficient time to finish their meals. Hey, flies got to eat too! I had the shits by this time anyway so my food intake was somewhat limited. The place was populated with lower middle class Gringo elderly couples, families with kids, and some younger M / F couples whose chucklehead spouses and / or boyfriends really ought to know better than to take their women to a shitehole place like this. Have some fucking class man. My room was an ice box, needed a sleeping bag just to sleep. Upon arrival and my obligatory 360 degree inner / outer security perimeter check, decided to grab a beer at some Hard Rock Cafe knockoff place in their little town center a short walk away. Enjoyed my 400 peso beer. Place was nearly empty. Bought a big bottle of drinking water as hotel instructions warned against the tap water. Nice. Nothing but lots of empty faux stores and other empty resort "restaraunts" inside the Celuisma, along with plenty of young Dominican kids pissing in their pool. Their beach was fairly adequate though. Tried as I might not to be noticed at their mess hall, I stood out nevertheless, reading back issues of my local newspaper. The coffee was good.

Took a short run on the beach next morning just to say that I did and entered their mess hall in full workout sweat mode. Retrieved my own silverware and dug in with the other tourist acting like locusts stripping a eucalyptus tree. My driver was blissfully early at my 1:00 PM checkout so I took him across the street to FOD as part of his training. How the fuck does ANY local taxi driver NOT know about this place. He appreciated his training. Nobody was there but the usual street skanks waiting on tricks. Flew out a few hours later, late owing to the typical clusterfuck of passengers not knowing how to board a plane.

END OF REPORT

Geolopes
01-08-13, 02:15
How many different women in thee pictures.All of them. Each box is a different box. Note: all pics taken were immediate post coital, hence the obvious wreckage. Hope this helps. Thanks for your question

BogieMaker
01-08-13, 02:56
"Celuisma Tropical Playa Dorada Resort & Spa" located inside the infamous Playa Dorada compound. Fucking dump, typical "all inclusive" tourist gulag, only way below standard. Deferred maint. Is the order of the day here. Had to take the top off my shitter every single time I needed to flush my turd. Typical buffet pabulum left out just long enough to allow the big, black flies sufficient time to finish their meals. Hey, flies got to eat too! I had the shits by this time anyway so my food intake was somewhat limited. The place was populated with lower middle class Gringo elderly couples, families with kids, and some younger M / F couples whose chucklehead spouses and / or boyfriends really ought to know better than to take their women to a shitehole place like this. Have some fucking class man.Thanks for the fine report. Makes me want to get back to BB as soon as work permits.

I usually spend one night in the all inclusive (s) at Juan Dolio before flying out of SDQ. Compared to BB and some of the places I have stayed in Soaua the AI's are crap. My last trip I stayed at the Coral Costa Caribe and the place was horrible poor food and maintenance were the norm. Place was about half full and the casino only had half the tables as they did last year. Stayed at Barcelo Capella Beach Resort last year and it was much better but still had issues with room maintenance. The food / beach and entertainment at Barcelo Capella Beach Resort was much better than Coral Caribe. Main reason for the AI is that my female friend likes to stay there and I can take some tourist pictures for the family.

I have wondered if the AI's in PP are worse than the JD and PC AI's since what I have read that most are either closed or running at low capacity.

Joe Shmoe
01-08-13, 03:27
Puerto Plata is eight times the population and area of Sosua but there is far less point and click mongering with full-time working girls as far as gringos are concerned. If you have some of the necessary assets Pto Pta is way better for picking up non-pros or semi-pros. I define semi-pros as chicas who don't get up in the morning hoping or expecting to sell their bodies for cash as they have other main sources of income (a job or living off their families or boyfriends) but would often grab the opportunity to do so if offered.

Everyone should visit Cristal once just for the experience as there is no similar place on the North Coast, though several in Santo Domingo. Drinks and chicas are rip-off prices but some guys take phone numbers and arrange meetings when chicas are off duty. This is not as easy as it sounds as most of the girls are indentured labor. To me it isn't worth the hassle but some guys think they are getting some sort of bargain by doing this. The girls can look very different without their skimpy dresses and masses of make-up. To me, they look better in civvies but no different or better than those at Blackbeards, Field of Dreams or elsewhere so why bother?

I always find Cristal rather sad. So many attractive girls (some of them very sweet and not at all hardcore) and so few customers. I have rarely seen more than 8 or 10 guys there, and some of those paying no attention to the girls, with 30 or 40 chicas.So would PP be better for finding GFE?

Cristals was very weak, my wing and I went in there and we were the only ones there. Slowly, girls starting coming out to the stage giving us the eye. There was a total of maybe 5 girls but it was early evening. Only stayed for a drink and then bounced. I thought one of the waitresses was very nice, I should have tried talking to her you never know. Maybe next time.

Orgasmico
01-08-13, 03:39
How is PP different from Sosua in terms of mongering, why would someone pick PP as opposed to the more popular Sosua?As the Riddler would say. How does one monger in Sosua without monering in Puerto Plata since Sosua is a small town in the Puerto Plata province.

RocheBrazi
01-10-13, 23:09
Damn OldKool, some nice looking ladies.

So why in the hell am I only getting 200-300 pounders contacting me on the Cupid site?Seems the same chicas are contacting me. Also I get alot contacts from mamis that are 10-20 years older than me.

All hot chicks I chatted with just want dinero at some point LOL.

I should maybe tell the next ones that I am no dinero machine at the start or so.

Atleast I can improove my spanish a bit while chatting

ItalnStallion99
01-12-13, 23:17
I am planning on being in DR from March 4 to March 10. My orginal plan was to spend the first 4 days in Sosua, then head to Blackbeards to finish off the vacation. As it gets closer I am having second thoughts on going to Blackbeards. I have been there so many times and get board after a day or 2. The beach there isn't that great and the area doesn't have much going on like Sosua does. Anyhow I still may stop by for one of the disco nights, have a meal and say hello to some of the chicas I am friends with. Instead of going to Blackbeards I would most likely spend my entire trip in Sosua. The other option would to go to field of dreams where I have never been. How is the area around field of dreams? I know it's right by the playa dorada complex. Will there be things to do or will I get board just like at Blackbeards? If thats the case maybe I should plan on spending my entire trip in Sosua and either vist Blackbeards and Field of Dreams for one night each or something like that.

If anyone has any opinons that would be great.

Thanks

Riky Rapido
01-13-13, 15:38
[QUOTE=ItalnStallion99; 1372586]I am planning on being in DR from March 4 to March 10. My orginal plan was to spend the first 4 days in Sosua, then head to Blackbeards to finish off the vacation. As it gets closer I am having second thoughts on going to Blackbeards. I have been there so many times and get board after a day or 2. The beach there isn't that great and the area doesn't have much going on like Sosua does. Anyhow I still may stop by for one of the disco nights, have a meal and say hello to some of the chicas I am friends with. Instead of going to Blackbeards I would most likely spend my entire trip in Sosua. The other option would to go to field of dreams where I have never been. How is the area around field of dreams? I know it's right by the playa dorada complex. Will there be things to do or will I get board just like at Blackbeards? If thats the case maybe I should plan on spending my entire trip in Sosua and either vist Blackbeards and Field of Dreams for one night each or something like that.

If anyone has any opinons that would be great.

Take a publica taxi, they load up as many as can fit in the car, but for 40 pesos, can't go wrong, they'll leave you off at the entrance to FOD, first look for the big sign for the New York restaurant, right after is FOD. Just watch your pockets when you get out of the car. I've been pick-pocketed a couple of times, both in Santiago. Get back on the road and flag a publica to Sosua. Easy, unless you have a lot of baggage. What's the point of a lot of baggage. This is the tropics.

Orgasmico
01-13-13, 15:44
If anyone has any opinons that would be great.

ThanksI've never been, but maybe give this place a try? http://www.oxygenretreat.com/resort-gallery/sex-resort-gallery-relaxation.html

Knowledge
01-13-13, 19:10
Public car advice:

- avoid the front seat to improve your chance of survival and escaping injury in case of accident.

- buy at least two seats and preferably 4 seats for comfort and for safety from pickpockets, you can also make a deal for the entire car.

- know the route to avoid being driven to an unsafe location and robbed.

Have fun.


[QUOTE=ItalnStallion99; 1372586]I am planning on being in DR from March 4 to March 10. My orginal plan was to spend the first 4 days in Sosua, then head to Blackbeards to finish off the vacation. As it gets closer I am having second thoughts on going to Blackbeards. I have been there so many times and get board after a day or 2. The beach there isn't that great and the area doesn't have much going on like Sosua does. Anyhow I still may stop by for one of the disco nights, have a meal and say hello to some of the chicas I am friends with. Instead of going to Blackbeards I would most likely spend my entire trip in Sosua. The other option would to go to field of dreams where I have never been. How is the area around field of dreams? I know it's right by the playa dorada complex. Will there be things to do or will I get board just like at Blackbeards? If thats the case maybe I should plan on spending my entire trip in Sosua and either vist Blackbeards and Field of Dreams for one night each or something like that.

If anyone has any opinons that would be great.

Take a publica taxi, they load up as many as can fit in the car, but for 40 pesos, can't go wrong, they'll leave you off at the entrance to FOD, first look for the big sign for the New York restaurant, right after is FOD. Just watch your pockets when you get out of the car. I've been pick-pocketed a couple of times, both in Santiago. Get back on the road and flag a publica to Sosua. Easy, unless you have a lot of baggage. What's the point of a lot of baggage. This is the tropics.

Geolopes
01-13-13, 19:56
I've never been, but maybe give this place a try?

http://www.oxygenretreat.com/resort-gallery/sex-resort-gallery-relaxation.htmlO, scroll down on the DR homepage and read the thread for Oxygen. RTFF. The place is real but pricy and the girls, generally speaking, are way hotter than the typical street skanks in Sosua and they are a notch above BB's. BB's still gives the best overall value for the $$ though and I would recommend it. I just got back from BB's, read trip report under Puerto Plata. One of my wingmen at BB's did a short trip to O2 about 2 months ago as he had money to burn. For the record, I was graciously given a tour of the place by its owner about 2 years ago so saw their physical plant firsthand. For the record, the o2 owner had kind words to say about BB's. O2 looked totally first rate to me on my 30 minute tour. I spoke with 6 guests there at their bar who raved about the place. My friend reports his experience was very good 2 months ago with outstanding food, smoking hot box, validated by other posters. Price level there is the absolute highest you should pay in the DR however. I've spoken to other experienced mongers at BB that had aweful, ripoff experiences at these other totally way overpriced AI sex places. One in Boca Chica uses regular beach girls, nothing special. Others in the POP area with really awesome looking websites will just gouge you for ridiculous coin and operate out of rented quarters often moving around. O2 at least owns his property. It's not often really busy at O2 however owing to their cost, but at least they deliver on promises. Bottom line: O2 if you have coin and value your privacy, and BB's if you're not wealthy and enjoy a bit more interaction with like minded guys. O2 is isolated but safe, BB's less isolated with a bit more to do off site or 10 minutes taxi ride away.

Geolopes
01-13-13, 20:10
[QUOTE=ItalnStallion99; 1372586]I am planning on being in DR from March 4 to March 10. My orginal plan was to spend the first 4 days in Sosua, then head to Blackbeards to finish off the vacation. As it gets closer I am having second thoughts on going to Blackbeards. I have been there so many times and get board after a day or 2. The beach there isn't that great and the area doesn't have much going on like Sosua does. Anyhow I still may stop by for one of the disco nights, have a meal and say hello to some of the chicas I am friends with. Instead of going to Blackbeards I would most likely spend my entire trip in Sosua. The other option would to go to field of dreams where I have never been. How is the area around field of dreams? I know it's right by the playa dorada complex. Will there be things to do or will I get board just like at Blackbeards? If thats the case maybe I should plan on spending my entire trip in Sosua and either vist Blackbeards and Field of Dreams for one night each or something like that.

If anyone has any opinons that would be great.

Take a publica taxi, they load up as many as can fit in the car, but for 40 pesos, can't go wrong, they'll leave you off at the entrance to FOD, first look for the big sign for the New York restaurant, right after is FOD. Just watch your pockets when you get out of the car. I've been pick-pocketed a couple of times, both in Santiago. Get back on the road and flag a publica to Sosua. Easy, unless you have a lot of baggage. What's the point of a lot of baggage. This is the tropics.I just got back. Please RTTF under the "Puerto Plata" thread where I have a detailed trip report from last week. Short story: American bumped me from my oversold flight in exchange for a $700 voucher, free round trip taxi to hotel, and free night at a Playa Dorada resort. I took the deal of course. Playa Dorade was totally dead and it looked like to me on my recon at least one of their compound's "resorts" was shut down. Might not be the only one. My wingmen and I took a side trip to FOD from BB's. Dead at the time with the usual street skanks looking for work. 1-2 hotties there when we went. We passed. I stopped by FOD again on my way back to POP to educate my driver. Same deal, same skanks hanging around the bar. Hey, who knows, YMMV if you stay at FOD. If you're a golfer, plan on having the Playa Dorada course almost to yourself. I don't play but if I did I would dig that. My wingmen spent 2 days one night in Sosua and the scene is declining. The bars that were open had an abousive noise level, complete turnoff, and were empty from their observation. Noise level soooo high it was painful to their ears. Yes, there's still plenty of pussy but its running down, tourism is off, chicas are desparate, acting stupid, calling cops to guys rooms, yadda yadda. I'm turned off by Sosua right now. Just tired of that nonsense.

OldKool
01-13-13, 21:22
I think the way to go is BB first. Sosua is way more action then BB. If you do Sosua first you will be bored with BB. BB may be to unwnind after you wild out in Sosua.




[QUOTE=ItalnStallion99; 1372586]I am planning on being in DR from March 4 to March 10. My orginal plan was to spend the first 4 days in Sosua, then head to Blackbeards to finish off the vacation. As it gets closer I am having second thoughts on going to Blackbeards. I have been there so many times and get board after a day or 2. The beach there isn't that great and the area doesn't have much going on like Sosua does. Anyhow I still may stop by for one of the disco nights, have a meal and say hello to some of the chicas I am friends with. Instead of going to Blackbeards I would most likely spend my entire trip in Sosua. The other option would to go to field of dreams where I have never been. How is the area around field of dreams? I know it's right by the playa dorada complex. Will there be things to do or will I get board just like at Blackbeards? If thats the case maybe I should plan on spending my entire trip in Sosua and either vist Blackbeards and Field of Dreams for one night each or something like that.

If anyone has any opinons that would be great.

Take a publica taxi, they load up as many as can fit in the car, but for 40 pesos, can't go wrong, they'll leave you off at the entrance to FOD, first look for the big sign for the New York restaurant, right after is FOD. Just watch your pockets when you get out of the car. I've been pick-pocketed a couple of times, both in Santiago. Get back on the road and flag a publica to Sosua. Easy, unless you have a lot of baggage. What's the point of a lot of baggage. This is the tropics.

Germanicus
01-14-13, 01:21
Spent a week at BB during new years and had a blast. Met some real cool guys including geolopes and his crew. Mega thanks again for letting me hang out with you guys.

BB if I had to compare it to anything is sort of a DR version of the Cocal in Costa rica except the girls here are employees not freelancers like in CR.

There are set prices and rules for the chicas to follow. The rooms are nice and one thing I'd like to complement the owner on is the prices. Unlike other places.

They don't overcharge too much at the bar / restaurant / in room fridge. This may sound minor but if you travel a bit it gets annoying being overcharges in so many places. The food quality is very good at BB's for those who want to know. Typical day on my trip was sleep in, breakfast, grab a 3some for lunch, nap, hit the beach, grab a chica for jacuzzi, nap, hit the bar and meet fellow mongers, grab a chica for the night. The owner is very friendly and on top of things and most of the guys there are pretty cool to chat with. Didn't have any major problems with the girls but you just need to make sure to be able to say no since a lot of them will try and book you for future conquests. Sounds fun at the time but you'll feel silly when you see new talent arriving and your already pre-booked. It's no Sosua but thank god for that, this is a place for guys who don't want the BS that Sosua is.

Mr Enternational
01-14-13, 08:07
Spent a week at BB during new years and had a blast. Met some real cool guys including geolopes and his crew.

They don't overcharge too much at the bar / restaurant / in room fridge. This may sound minor but if you travel a bit it gets annoying being overcharges in so many places. The food quality is very good at BB's for those who want to know.I'm no BB guy but you hit the nail on the head with that one. The food there is very appetizing and that along with the drinks are very reasonably priced.

LoveVegas
01-15-13, 02:32
Anyone on this flight and heading to bbs. Lands at 1207 pm. Or the aa from jfk lands the sametime. Would like to share taxi to bbs.

Thanks

Monger1337
01-18-13, 05:10
i will try to do a comprehensive report of my trip before it falls out of my head. i spent 2 days at bbs. 2 days at fod, and 3 nights in sosua. this section of the report will only cover bbs and fod. i will save sosua for the sosua section.

day 1:

i made the mistake of flying into santo domingo this trip because the cost difference was significant compared to flying into santiago. the transit time is just too much to be worth it. it shaved a day off mongering really. i did have a small portion of adventure on the way. while i studied spanish extensively in school, i had not spoken any for two years since my last trip. at this stage in the trip i wasn't picking up much of what was being said to me.

i arrived in santo domingo and headed to an atm in the airport to get some pesos. the transaction appeared to work, but no money came out of the dispenser. confused and a little annoyed, i decided to avoid airport atms and continued to the taxi area. luckily this atm anomaly did not lead to any money being drawn from my account. of course, the taxi guys smelled money and immediately tried to stick my luggage in the trunk of the cab. i stopped the cab driver and asked how much to the metro station. when he told me 40 dollars i shook my head, walked off, and started pulling a business card out of my pocket. he came running back over and told me someone wanted to share a cab and it would be half price. the girl sharing the cab with me was an english teacher in puerto plata. she helped me translate my conversation with the cab driver. however she didn't bother to fill me in on her part of the conversation. i was trying to make a 4:00pm metro bus. she had to cancel a hotel reservation she had made in santo domingo, but i was not aware of this until i spent 20 minutes waiting in the cab in zona colonial and missed my bus. since the caribe tours bus left more often, i opted to go to caribe tours instead. i ended up paying $25us with tip for the cab. he offered to drive me all the way to puerto plata for $75 us, but i declined.

at the caribe tours station, i ran into some canadian hippie kids who were headed to haiti for some sort of charity work. they were helpful in making sure i got on the right bus. at this stage i was still having trouble adjusting to spanish being spoken at the speed of a native speaker. the bus trip was actually kind of interesting. there were some delays in the process. the trip took about six hours. in santiago a group of girls got on and sat in my part of the bus. one of them who was sitting across the aisle from me, kept messing with her phone (which was nicer than mine actually). about 30 minutes into the ride, she taps me on the shoulder and starts showing me pictures on her phone. they ranged from slightly risque to full nudes. she then told me that they were pictures of her sister and pointed to the seat behind me. i probably could have done something really fun with this opportunity, but i already had a reservation at bbs. so i just smiled at both of them.

i paid $20us for a ride from caribe tours station to bbs. i arrived late, around 9:30pm. by 10:00 i was getting my last shot at something to eat from the kitchen. i had the sancocho, which was underwhelming, probably because it was the end of the day. i had no other food there that was lacking in quality. one thing that seemed stricter than last time i was there was shut down time. everyone was ready to be done with the day. while i was eating, the mamasan (not cristal, she was cool) came and told me i had to choose a girl immediately. i told her i would be happy to do so as soon as i finished eating (my food had just arrived). about 5 minutes later she came back to remind me that i needed to choose a girl. thinking i was going to bed alone if i didn't, i got up and scanned the room. i ended up choosing cade (i think that's right). service was not bad, but she was obviously in a hurry. she actually woke me up at 6am fully dressed and wanting to leave.

the next morning, i woke up early and headed to the beach. i spent a while walking around, and then had breakfast at ton why ramonas. i always enjoy the breakfast there, and it was nice to have my first blast of dominican coffee. i started talking to people about various different places to check out in costambar and cofressi. i ended up exploring all day. after an unremarkable st and a nap, things were a bit more lively downstairs at the bar. i went down to check it out. after such a waste of a tln the day before, i was only up for st this night. i ended up taking jade. the service was memorable. excellent bbbj, and i thought she was going to break me in half with her enthusiasm. i felt like this was an excellent choice overall. by the time this was over, i went back downstairs to an empty bar with employees sweeping the floor (11:00pm). i tried to go out into costambar to see if any place was still open, but i seemed to be upsetting the local canines. so i headed back in for a night cap and some much needed rest.

the next day i was ready to go. only 1/3 sessions were great. that's not to say anything about bbs though. my last trip there i extended my stay for the entire trip. with those girls, as with any, ymmv. the facilities were nice, and i have no complaints about bbs. i just think i had less than perfect luck with my choice in girls this time. i was able to share an outside taxi with a couple of other guests out of costambar for a very reasonable price. one of the guys was headed to sosua and fod was on the way. i would publish what i paid, but it would create an inaccurate picture of what it costs. on to fod.

fod was one of the major high points of the trip. the atmosphere was relievingly different. the owners and bartenders were very hospitable. i will quote a fellow monger who said it better than i could,"its like being at a friend's perverted back yard party." it is a little tranquil and tame during the day, but the girls were always attentive and pleasant, but not at all bothersome or pushy. from what i could tell there was no mamasan, and the girls seemed to get along great and do their own thing.

my first day i was approached quickly by a girl who wouldn't have been my first choice, but she seemed to like me. i just rolled with it. it turned out really well mostly. she went my mikala. she was really bright, and her attitude was great. i wasn't sure how much i would appreciate her in the sack, so i went for a st. it was better than any session i had yet on this trip. after returning to the bar and socializing for a bit, i decided i didn't want the night to stop when the bar shut down. i grabbed mikala as well as another gorgeous chica by the name of alicia with an 8 face and a 10 ass, and headed off to pure disco in / near playa dorada. the crowd was an interesting mix of tourists, dominicanas, and sankys. the music wasn't bad at all either, a nice mix of bachata, hip hop, house, and reggaeton. the drinks were expensive for dr though. all in all the experience was worth it. i discovered alicia is a phenomenal dancer, and mikala less so. this was however no reflection of how they performed in the ensuing threesome. mikala was incredibly responsive to daty and cfs, whereas alicia didn't seem to be nearly as into the daty. the cfs with alicia was great though. alicia also insisted on cbj, which i found unappealing. i told myself i wasn't going to do a threesome on this trip, but when i saw alicia walk in, i changed my mind pretty quickly.

the next morning i woke up kind of early. i jumped in the shower, and alicia had to go home for a few hours. before she left, we had another mind bending threesome. alicia's ass was mesmerizing. it was big in depth (not width) but surreal in firmness. she knew just how to work it. mikala went to nap in her onsite quarters, and i went for breakfast. i was one of the first guests awake, but there was already coffee out. i sat down for some coffee and ordered breakfast. the food at fod was really good in my opinion. i had a conversation or two there where other guests disagreed on that point, but everything i ordered was not only good, but the presentation was superb. at first i wasn't sure i was going to stay a second night at fod, but the attitude of the girls was so great that i couldn't resist.

i spent the rest of the day checking out hotels in sosua in an attempt to save a little money on making a cash offer for the weekend. as it turned out, sosua was full enough that this was not the ideal strategy. maybe i will try it in the off season some time. i checked out casa valeria, casa cayena, hotel orchidee, rocky's various rentals, and ended up settling on casa cayena at regular price. i explored the beach for a little while and met up with some new friends i made at bbs. i returned to fod about dark.

this turned out to be one of the best nights of the trip. mikala was waiting with bells when i got back. we had a quick short time, and i told her i wanted to turn it into tln. this made her very happy. we had a few new people in fod by this point but it was still pretty quiet. i bought a few girls drinks, and things started to liven up. i had purchased some inexpensive sex toys to give to girls. we brought some of these out to the bar, and some entertaining antics ensued. nothing fully pornographic, but it was a lot of fun no less. this experience is what really sold me on fod. the atmosphere was so much more relaxed, and the girls seemed to be having fun while working rather than just working.

the night with mikala was totally gfe. i really felt well taken care of. the staff was willing to work with me on checking out a little later than normal the next day. i really just wanted to hang out there a little longer. the murals may be a little cheesy, but who cares. not me. i actually think they contribute to the beautiful absurdity that is fod.

i even liked it enough that i came back by for a few hours on one of my sosua days just to hang out. this was a funny experience in itself. i was immediately met by mikala with a smile when i came in. i talked with her for a while, and told her i was tired and didn't feel like a st right then. when she went to shower and change, she asked if i wanted to take her out with me that night. i told her maybe, but i might want to do something else. while she was gone, i started hitting it off well with an ex bbs girl that was really hot. i went to talk to some friends. later when i came back to ask the former bbs girl if she wanted to come out dancing that night, she took me aside and politely told me,"i can't. you are married here." this resulted in a brief but playful argument with mikala. this might annoy me in any other place or situation, but it added to the charm of the place for me. the zany sexually charged insanity was present throughout. i plan to start my next trip there. i don't think i would want to stay in a place that starts to shut down at 11 or 12 for an entire trip, but i will definitely continue to come back.

other notes: from fod you can catch a public taxi for a day trip to sosua for 60 pesos ($1. 48us) or a gua gua (public bus) for 10 pesos ($.25). just go up to the highway and flag one down. public taxis have red signs on top of the car. gua guas are easy to spot. they are bus vans. keep in mind they may pick up 7 people not including babies in a taxi and 14 or so in a gua gua depending on its size. you may pay slightly more for night transit. i wouldn't put my luggage in one of these if i couldn't hold it in my lap unless i knew the driver, but groceries or other purchases (really anything i could hold) i would be fine with. that of course is only my intuition based on lack of experience. it might be ok to throw luggage in the trunk. when i carried all my luggage i took a private taxi, the one fod recommended. the $25 or so for the sake of security was worth it to me.

taking a moto back and forth from sosua is doable, but i have to say it made me a little uncomfortable. if you rent a moto please be careful and stay out of the fast lane. the road isn't too horrible, but there are a significant number of potholes.

fod has an onsite atm, but i prefer a real bank atm. i'm sure theirs is fine, but its just a quirk of mine. i went to the atm in playa dorada. i wouldn't recommend it. it is a much longer walk than i anticipated. there is a closer one just inside puerto plata at the roundabout in the highway i hear.

thanks to the staff at both bbs and fod for contributing to a great vacation. both places have their pros and cons. i think they are both excellent places to stay, and perfect places to start a longer trip.

Sammy Sosa
01-22-13, 17:13
Thanks a lot for your 2 well-written, informative reports. Couple of thoughts if I may:


About 30 minutes into the ride, she taps me on the shoulder and starts showing me pictures on her phone. They ranged from slightly risque to full nudes. She then told me that they were pictures of her sister and pointed to the seat behind me. I probably could have done something really fun with this opportunity, but I already had a reservation at BBs. So I just smiled at both of them.I have heard a couple of times about dating opportunities in a Caraibe long distance bus.

I had the sweetest girl in the world approach me the only time I took it (I always have a car rental normally). On the shy side, she had checked me out discreetly since leaving Pto Pta. We had to exit briefly the bus at Santiago and she positioned herself right next to me as we were waiting by the bus. Her face illuminated with the most endearing smile as I started talking to her.


FOD was one of the major high points of the trip. The atmosphere was relievingly different. The owners and bartenders were very hospitable. I will quote a fellow monger who said it better than I could,"Its like being at a friend's perverted back yard party." It is a little tranquil and tame during the day, but the girls were always attentive and pleasant, but not at all bothersome or pushy. From what I could tell there was no mamasan, and the girls seemed to get along great and do their own thing.I agree FOD seems to be doing everything right, yet the few time I went there it was always very quiet. If that team cannot pull it through, then it will be because there is not enough demand in Puerto Plata for another monger hotel. Even without customers, they manage to create some party mood. Some girls live together in the back room, FKK style, so they really work as a team. They have been well instructed, I. E they resisted aggregating all around me in spite of me being the only available wallet one night.

The owners seem very hands-on, and I saw them have fun with the girls frequently. Probably a factor in the girl's and staff's cheerfulness, in spite of the lack of customers. Service was flawless, facilities are great.

I stayed for their "wet T-shirt" event one Saturday afternoon. The event never got started, though, as only a couple of guys showed up. Yet, I thoroughly enjoyed watching the girls splashing in the pool, play billard and chat around. Had the worst hamburger ever though.


While she was gone, I started hitting it off well with an ex BBs girl that was really hot. I went to talk to some friends. Later when I came back to ask the former BBs girl if she wanted to come out dancing that night, she took me aside and politely told me,"I can't. You are married here." This resulted in a brief but playful argument with Mikala.Not only in FOD. In Sosua too I noticed some solidarity between girls. Three-some are fine, but switching girl altogether after you "commited" is usually frown on. I got away with it a couple of time but showing strong love interest to the new girl, some sweet talking and a couple of rounds of beer. Dominicana are fundamentally romantic at heart.


She keeps a safe distance and all is well. Next, Girl #1 comes walking up, the hot Hatiana, yelling at me about how she is working and I am wasting her time. At this point I hand her 100 pesos and tell her politely to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off.Handing out money for "their time" is something I always strongly resist. I may be wrong, but I am worried that they'll come back for more if you start giving money too easily, and you'll end up attracting the wrong kind of girls. I'd rather sweet-talk my way out of the situation. I have little qualm in offering another round of beer however.

Sammy.

Tempoecorto
01-22-13, 21:40
I will try to do a comprehensive report of my trip before it falls out of my head. I spent 2 days at BBs. 2 days at FOD, and 3 nights in Sosua. This section of the report will only cover BBs and FOD. I will save Sosua for the Sosua section.Enjoyed two well written accounts of the trip. Insights, thoughts and a flawless language. Kudos!

Monger1337
01-23-13, 02:16
Handing out money for "their time" is something I always strongly resist. I may be wrong, but I am worried that they'll come back for more if you start giving money too easily, and you'll end up attracting the wrong kind of girls. I'd rather sweet-talk my way out of the situation. I have little qualm in offering another round of beer however.I have to agree with you. That was an abbreviated version of the incident actually. I actually offered another round of beer, and tried to smooth it over with the girl amicably. She was on the verge of making quite a scene at the point when I finally handed her the money. I might not do that if faced with the same situation again.

TravelGuyCan
01-30-13, 20:13
Hello,

I stayed at BB's about over one year ago. Was not recent I know but want to help where I can.

BB arranged a taxi for me from POP airport (30$ I think). The pickup was on time, no issues. I got to the resort, checked in. The guy at the front desk (tall white gentleman) was helpful but not the most patient especially if you are asking questions. Checked into the room, was nice, AC reliable, hot water, clean, safe. I think was $55 / night.

Blackbeards is in Costamabar, a kind-of sectioned off gated community (Very Safe). I rented a scooter from a guy named Carlos, very reliable and honest as I was worried about being scammed. No problem here. This was a small thrill for me as I have never been on a scooter before. It was great to ride around Costambar, to Jenny's supermarket (wayy better than walking or taking a motoconcho) , to the Costambar beach (not the cleanest but you can grab a lounge chair in the shade with a presidente in one hand, pretty Gringa chica on your lap and chill out).

Chicas.

At that time, most were 7's, two 8's. I am into the lighter skin chicas and I met this one girl, a 9, who I swear was from Columbia (but ofcourse, that does not make sense). She was even a bit insulted when I asked her that, dom girls have their pride! The girls were friendly, sweet, a little aggressive on the dance floor in BB's which I like. The swimsuit contest was fun as well as the strip show competition.

Other than the normal ST / LT, one highlight was taking two girls into the BB large jucuzzi at night. Highly recommended fun!

Food.

Excellent, the breakfast, burger and pasta all great. There is also a little Italian restaurant with decent pizza around the corner from BB's.

I liked that there was Beer in the room fridge, drink when you want what you want.

I liked BB's but other than the Chicas, not much else to do. Some prefer it this way, but I like a variety. I will be back in DR next week and this time I will be staying in Cabarete for more variation on stuff to do, and hunting at Sosuas at night.

Manny51
02-03-13, 19:22
Has anyone else noticed that the prices at Oxygen have gone way up, and does anyone have some inside info as to why?

I went to Oxygen once about 3 years ago. The prevailing best rate was about $600-650 a night. Pricey yes, but not so steep that I wasn't willing to try it once just to see what it was like. I found the compound nice and the food decent. The companion girls were mostly "cafe au lait" or "mocha" complexion Dominicans. And on the slender side (for Dominicans). Attractive yes, but not quite matching the extravagant prices. Overall, I had a pleasant time, but didn't think that I would return.

That was early in my experience. Since then, I have travelled more, and have come to appreciate what Oxygen delivers. The environment is relaxing and safe, and the very definition of low aggravation. Nobody hangs on you, grabs you, and tries to get you to buy them a drink. It's like being at someones house for pool party. I could do some work on my laptop for a few hours, and it was no big deal. I was never made to feel that I was "neglecting" them or being rude.

I was recently thinking of going back, but now the best price is over $800 a night. Has anything happened to warrant the price increase? Have there been upgrades to the facility? Changes in services?

Sorry for posting this here, but there doesn't seem to be much traffic on the Oxygen thread, and I didn't think that I would get an answer. That plus, I was hoping to get up to date perspectives regarding its comparison to other places like BB and FOD, to which I have never been.

OldKool
02-03-13, 22:10
650 IS WHAT I spend in 6 days and I am very happy with the women I bang.


Has anyone else noticed that the prices at Oxygen have gone way up, and does anyone have some inside info as to why?

I went to Oxygen once about 3 years ago. The prevailing best rate was about $600-650 a night. Pricey yes, but not so steep that I wasn't willing to try it once just to see what it was like. I found the compound nice and the food decent. The companion girls were mostly "cafe au lait" or "mocha" complexion Dominicans. And on the slender side (for Dominicans). Attractive yes, but not quite matching the extravagant prices. Overall, I had a pleasant time, but didn't think that I would return.

That was early in my experience. Since then, I have travelled more, and have come to appreciate what Oxygen delivers. The environment is relaxing and safe, and the very definition of low aggravation. Nobody hangs on you, grabs you, and tries to get you to buy them a drink. It's like being at someones house for pool party. I could do some work on my laptop for a few hours, and it was no big deal. I was never made to feel that I was "neglecting" them or being rude.

I was recently thinking of going back, but now the best price is over $800 a night. Has anything happened to warrant the price increase? Have there been upgrades to the facility? Changes in services?

Sorry for posting this here, but there doesn't seem to be much traffic on the Oxygen thread, and I didn't think that I would get an answer. That plus, I was hoping to get up to date perspectives regarding its comparison to other places like BB and FOD, to which I have never been.

Charles Pooter
02-03-13, 22:31
Has anyone else noticed that the prices at Oxygen have gone way up, and does anyone have some inside info as to why?

The prevailing best rate was about $600-650 a night.

I was recently thinking of going back, but now the best price is over $800 a night. Has anything happened to warrant the price increase? Have there been upgrades to the facility? Changes in services?I know nothing about Oxygen. Anybody who patronizes it is either too rich to hang with me, or too stupid for me to hang with them. But there has been a lot of inflation in the DR over the past three years. Many things have suffered sharp price rises in pesos. Throw in a bit of upgrading of the premises as well, and that could easily account for those price rises. Another factor could be that their turnover has declined in line with many tourist resorts on the North Coast and they have jacked up prices to maintain their margins (the usual strategy in this country).

Manny51
02-04-13, 19:53
I know nothing about Oxygen. Anybody who patronizes it is either too rich to hang with me, or too stupid for me to hang with them. But there has been a lot of inflation in the DR over the past three years. Many things have suffered sharp price rises in pesos. Throw in a bit of upgrading of the premises as well, and that could easily account for those price rises. Another factor could be that their turnover has declined in line with many tourist resorts on the North Coast and they have jacked up prices to maintain their margins (the usual strategy in this country).Thanks for the response. I didn't realize that marked inflation had taken place.

Actually, if you break it down, the $650 per day was definitely expensive, but not out of this world unreasonable. The small hotel is nice, kind of staying at a rich guys house / mansion. Two swimming pools, a jacuzzi, outdoor bar, and a hookah hut. The room itself is 3 1/2 stars, and I mean that to be a compliment. To me, the Oriental in Bangkok is 5 star hotel. The service level was also personalized and very good. I would say that $150 a night would be a reasonable rate for that room. It's also all-inclusive. Food and booze all you want. The food is burgers, pizza, spaghetti, etc, not steak and lobster. They even give you tipping coupons. I would say food, plus transport, could probably be worth about $100 / day.

On the basic plan, that leaves $400 for what amounts to two companions. And there is the rub. For someone who has never been there, I can understand how that can be eye-popping. The owner once told me that going there the first time is a leap of faith, and I think that sums it up pretty well. It's pricey, but the girls are vetted, and the experience is excellent. Just consider the difference as an effective $200 "luxury fee," which if you are only staying for 2 nights, probably isn't that bad. I have not been anywhere else in the DR, but other reports by people who have been everywhere say that Oxygen girls are a level above other girls in the DR. And when I was there, all the other people there were returnees, who did not give me the impression that they were particularly wealthy. They considered it a once in a while splurge.

$800 a day, though, is pretty crazy. I think that the more you raise the price, the more you raise expectations, which to tell you the truth, were barely being met beforehand. $800 is definitely above the sweet spot for what they are offering.

Charles Pooter
02-04-13, 20:17
. when I was there, all the other people there were returnees, who did not give me the impression that they were particularly wealthy. They considered it a once in a while splurge.Thanks for your good-tempered reply which is probably more than I deserved. As to "wealthy", these things are relative. For most mongers visiting the North Coast, being there at all, on a budget of US$100 to $200 a day (which I would guess covers 95% of the visitors to Sosua) is a "once in a while splurge". They would rather visit three times a year on the cheap than live the high-life at Oxygen once a year.

The other issue is that many mongers actually prefer to get involved in the local scene, despite its tackiness. The regime at Oxygen would be too "artificial" for many of us. (In fact, once at Blackbeards was enough for me, much as I enjoyed it). But different strokes, etc, and it is good there are so many different options in the DR.

The fact that the other guests were all returnees speaks well for Oxygen. It is obviously not a rip-off like so many of the "Sex-included AIs" which advertise and occasionally try to spam on the boards.

Manny51
02-04-13, 22:45
Thanks for your good-tempered reply which is probably more than I deserved. As to "wealthy", these things are relative. For most mongers visiting the North Coast, being there at all, on a budget of US$100 to $200 a day (which I would guess covers 95% of the visitors to Sosua) is a "once in a while splurge". They would rather visit three times a year on the cheap than live the high-life at Oxygen once a year.

The regime at Oxygen would be too "artificial" for many of us. (In fact, once at Blackbeards was enough for me, much as I enjoyed it).

The fact that the other guests were all returnees speaks well for Oxygen. It is obviously not a rip-off like so many of the "Sex-included AIs" which advertise and occasionally try to spam on the boards.Can you really get by with $150 a day for hotel, food, and "entertainment?"

Back then, when I was researching my first trip to the DR, I seemed to be reading so many negative things on the forum about some places in the DR."Sosewer," girls with very poor hygiene, and terrible attitude. At the same, there were some articles about these boutique places, like Oxygen. There was also one other place which was even more expensive and famous, it had an article about it in Playboy. I can't remember the name at this moment. I think it had something to do with pirates (not talking about BB). Oxygen seemed like an upper midrange option, so I tried it out.

Although I am not that experienced a traveller, I have come to realize that, as long as something is grossly within my means, I never complain about the price if I have a good experience. It's only when the experience is mediocre that I start thinking critically about whether it represents "value" or not. In fact, my instinct tells me that, over the last several years, good experiences in the world are getting harder and harder to find. More women are taking on bad attitudes. Maybe the internet makes the world a smaller place. Maybe those women in the younger generation are more spoiled or self-loathing. I can't quite put my finger on the cause, but I know that the trend is real. Its the reason why I was considering going back to Oxygen.

Doker44
02-04-13, 23:22
Thanks for the response. I didn't realize that marked inflation had taken place.

Actually, if you break it down, the $650 per day was definitely expensive, but not out of this world unreasonable. The small hotel is nice, kind of staying at a rich guys house / mansion. Two swimming pools, a jacuzzi, outdoor bar, and a hookah hut. The room itself is 3 1/2 stars, and I mean that to be a compliment. To me, the Oriental in Bangkok is 5 star hotel. The service level was also personalized and very good. I would say that $150 a night would be a reasonable rate for that room. It's also all-inclusive. Food and booze all you want. The food is burgers, pizza, spaghetti, etc, not steak and lobster. They even give you tipping coupons. I would say food, plus transport, could probably be worth about $100 / day.

On the basic plan, that leaves $400 for what amounts to two companions. And there is the rub. For someone who has never been there, I can understand how that can be eye-popping. The owner once told me that going there the first time is a leap of faith, and I think that sums it up pretty well. It's pricey, but the girls are vetted, and the experience is excellent. Just consider the difference as an effective $200 "luxury fee," which if you are only staying for 2 nights, probably isn't that bad. I have not been anywhere else in the DR, but other reports by people who have been everywhere say that Oxygen girls are a level above other girls in the DR. And when I was there, all the other people there were returnees, who did not give me the impression that they were particularly wealthy. They considered it a once in a while splurge.

$800 a day, though, is pretty crazy. I think that the more you raise the price, the more you raise expectations, which to tell you the truth, were barely being met beforehand. $800 is definitely above the sweet spot for what they are offering.Listen to the regular posters here, this price is a rip off in the DR. Its your money but the only reason this makes since is if somebody wants privacy because they are well known or afraid of being seen. How much do you think these guys are paying the girls? Let me tell you no where near 400 dollars. For that kinda of money there some many better places to go in the world.

Manny51
02-04-13, 23:39
Listen to the regular posters here, this price is a rip off in the DR. Its your money but the only reason this makes since is if somebody wants privacy because they are well known or afraid of being seen. For that kinda of money there some many better places to go in the world.There is a senator, I think from Florida, that had to quickly resign for getting busted for going to the DR to hookup. He rented a private jet from his best friend or something. What an idiot. He could have just taken his regular passport, not the diplomatic passport, and hid in Oxygen for a few days.

Charles Pooter
02-05-13, 00:40
Can you really get by with $150 a day for hotel, food, and "entertainment?"Two or three years back there was a survey on another board that has ten times as many posts about North Coast mongering as this one, so I think the results were from a fairly representative sample. The average amount mongers spent was about US$150 per day (not including travel expenses). Call that US$200 these days. Some guys spent only US$100 a day. I suspect they didn't drink much and maybe only enjoyed one chica a day, or had regulars who kept their sexual expenditure down, or had free lodging with friends. I cannot remember all the background now.

You can still have a great holiday in Sosua for US$200 per day (excluding travel costs).

Hotel: 2400.

One ST per day: 1500

One TLN per day: 2000.

Breakfast: 200.

Dinner: 400.

Refreshments: 300.

Alcoholic Drinks: 500.

Transport: 200.

Other miscellaneous: 500.

That's tight and it would be nice to have another US$50 to play with for contingencies, but then some guys can get by with US$150.

Of course you will pay more if:

- You are racially selective (fair-skinned women come at a premium)

- You are an alcoholic.

- You know nil Spanish.

- You need more than 2 chicas per 24 hours.

No-one need be put off by stories of trouble. If you don't drink too much and avoid hardcore working girls and their associates it is a very safe place. Some guys enjoy the drama though, so they hang with tigueres, police, pushers, and other scum. Even then, there are surprisingly few incidents.


There was also one other place which was even more expensive and famous, it had an article about it in Playboy. I can't remember the name at this moment. I think it had something to do with pirates (not talking about BB).Vikings. They offered lots of East European girls. Not sure if they are still going? I love East European girls but I would enjoy them more in their own countries.

Charles Pooter
02-05-13, 02:37
There is a senator, I think from Florida, that had to quickly resign for getting busted for going to the DR to hookup. He rented a private jet from his best friend or something. What an idiot. He could have just taken his regular passport, not the diplomatic passport, and hid in Oxygen for a few days.Yes, Oxygen would be better than the Strip in Sosua for someone like that. But not many of our posters are senators using private jets. Most are humble guys with ordinary jobs and US$200 a day is plenty enough to pay.

Manny51
02-05-13, 05:08
Yes, Oxygen would be better than the Strip in Sosua for someone like that. But not many of our posters are senators using private jets. Most are humble guys with ordinary jobs and US$200 a day is plenty enough to pay.Don't get me wrong. It was not my intention to harp on guys travelling on a budget. Believe me, I can be as frugal as they come.

But I think you said it well in that sometimes I would be willing to visit the DR once a year on a higher budget than 3X a year on a lower budget.

As for the Senator, that was just a headline that caught my attention. I always imagined bigwigs like that using high end call girls from a hollywood madam. I didn't think that they flew to POP like the rest of us! And if they did, I just thought that they would do it smarter.

Tempoecorto
02-05-13, 21:58
Sorry to chime in as I noted the reference to the Oriental in Bangkok. I have never stayed there. The location was not good given the traffic of Bangkok which I hope has improved since with the subway system. I stayed at the Shangri-la and the Grand Hyatt many times. I have also stayed at the Oriental in Singapore (I think they are not the same group) and Four Seasons, Ritz-Carlton and the Inter-Continental in Singapore, Hong Kong and Jakarta. I just thought comparing the service levels of Asia to something in the DR (or even here in the US) is well-nigh impossible but there is a bigger picture:

At least in Bangkok, I rarely brought women to the hotel given the super-abundance of other on location options. Also, given the time constraints of business travel, it was always a pro that we spoke of. The D. R to me (and perhaps there are other such places in other continents) , is an interesting opportunity to savor the company of normal people which to me makes it unique. Sure, even these are people who will always appreciate the money you offer discreetly but this makes it somewhat different for me compared to say, a high-end place as no matter how pretty, or how sophisticated the women are, perhaps even English speaking, they are still pro and jaded.

There is another element for me. In a country where people make less than 10000 pesos after a month's work, bringing a normal person to a fancy locale, to me has felt like an affront. I remember on one occasion, I stayed in a regular hotel, paying something like 1500 pesos with hot shower and clean sheets and a good sized room. Earlier, I had met a waitress (and nothing fancy about her except that she caught my fancy) during a modest Dominican lunch who came to see me in late afternoon and she asked me by way of conversation as to how much I was paying for the room. It was clear she does not frequent hotels even modest as it was, too often. Stupidly I told her and after an awkward silence, she asked me if the amount was for a week.

As Charles says, different things appeal to different people. This was just my two cents. Thanks.


Thanks for the response. I didn't realize that marked inflation had taken place.

Actually, if you break it down, the $650 per day was definitely expensive, but not out of this world unreasonable. The small hotel is nice, kind of staying at a rich guys house / mansion. Two swimming pools, a jacuzzi, outdoor bar, and a hookah hut. The room itself is 3 1/2 stars, and I mean that to be a compliment. To me, the Oriental in Bangkok is 5 star hotel. The service level was also personalized and very good. I would say that $150 a night would be a reasonable rate for that room. It's also all-inclusive. Food and booze all you want. The food is burgers, pizza, spaghetti, etc, not steak and lobster. They even give you tipping coupons. I would say food, plus transport, could probably be worth about $100 / day.

Towelboy2010
02-06-13, 04:41
My friend and I are flying a 4 seat plane to several islands in the Bahamas. I am considering a few days in the Puerto Plata & Sousa as well as part of the island hopping experience in April. All my mongering experience outside the USA has been in South East Asia. Mainly the Philippines.

From all I read here, BlackBeards seems like the best choice for me since I speak no spanish. However, I like to stay in a place with a decent king size bed & amenities and I saw on TripAdvisor that there are several 2 bedroom rental houses near Costumbar (Lifestyle Tropical Beach Resort and Spa) that look like great accomodations for my buddy and I.

If we stay at a private residence outside of Blackbeards, where do we monger?

For many years I was a musician in bands playing on weeksends so I like to party on a vacation like this. Is nose candy available?

Thanks for all the useful advice.

Ironman445
02-06-13, 14:16
Hi,

I will be landing at POP on 09 Feb noon for 2 or 3 nights, any tips.

How is Fantasy Stars Club, any reviews please advise.

Riky Rapido
02-06-13, 15:47
My friend and I are flying a 4 seat plane to several islands in the Bahamas. I am considering a few days in the Puerto Plata & Sousa as well as part of the island hopping experience in April. All my mongering experience outside the USA has been in South East Asia. Mainly the Philippines.

From all I read here, BlackBeards seems like the best choice for me since I speak no spanish. However, I like to stay in a place with a decent king size bed & amenities and I saw on TripAdvisor that there are several 2 bedroom rental houses near Costumbar (Lifestyle Tropical Beach Resort and Spa) that look like great accomodations for my buddy and I.

If we stay at a private residence outside of Blackbeards, where do we monger?

For many years I was a musician in bands playing on weeksends so I like to party on a vacation like this. Is nose candy available?

Thanks for all the useful advice.Life is Hell in the Dominican prisons. The law is down on drugs, period. If you have mucho pesos, you can take a taxi from Lifestyles Resort. But, why? The accomodations, food, and beach are right there at BB's, and so is the pussy. The choices of chicas will blow you away. If you want to party, go to Sosua. Stay at New Garden or any of the many hotels in the area. Terra Linda is top notch. Most of these hotels have oversized beds. Besides, not speaking Spanish, you'd do better with my suggestions. Need a guide? Ha, I've lived here for 4 years. Rent a new car for $30 or $40 a day, and take it all in.

Buscemi
02-06-13, 17:02
For many years I was a musician in bands playing on weeksends so I like to party on a vacation like this. Is nose candy available?I strongly suggest you watch Midnight Express to get an idea of the accommodation in Fortaleza, Puerto Plata if you are caught.

VERY good chance you get set up, if your IP has not already been traced for such a brilliant comment.

If you can't get your groove on with the finest local Rum, Cigars, and women, aim your plane for another island.

JoeyDude
02-06-13, 17:52
I am going to be in PP for 4 days next week but then will meet some family in PC for the rest of my trip and then fly out of there. Any ideas on the best way to get there, I see the bus is 7 hours because it make stops. Any ideas on renting a car and making the trip?

UrbanGuest
02-07-13, 01:46
I am going to be in PP for 4 days next week but then will meet some family in PC for the rest of my trip and then fly out of there. Any ideas on the best way to get there, I see the bus is 7 hours because it make stops. Any ideas on renting a car and making the trip?I've done the drive from the north coast to Punta Cana many times, its not hard and with the new highways its a lot easier and more comfortable nowadays. But even driving on your own its still about a 6-8 hour drive, personally I would break it up into a 2 day drive. Drive the first day to Boca Chica, stop and enjoy the entertainment and local talent get a good nights rest and then finish the remainder the next morning.

From PP you can go one of two ways either down thru Santiago then thru SDQ and into Boca Chica or take the north coast route thru Sosua then onto and thru Nagua and then down to Boca Chica. From there its a straight shot, mostly, over to LaRamana and then jump on the new highway that will get you on over to Punta Cana. PP to BC either way is about 3 hours but the north coast is less traffic, and the BC to PC is a little over 2 hours now with the new highway. Make sure you have pesos for the toll roads. And buy a map, just in case.

JoeyDude
02-07-13, 10:11
I've done the drive from the north coast to Punta Cana many times, its not hard and with the new highways its a lot easier and more comfortable nowadays. But even driving on your own its still about a 6-8 hour drive, personally I would break it up into a 2 day drive. Drive the first day to Boca Chica, stop and enjoy the entertainment and local talent get a good nights rest and then finish the remainder the next morning.

From PP you can go one of two ways either down thru Santiago then thru SDQ and into Boca Chica or take the north coast route thru Sosua then onto and thru Nagua and then down to Boca Chica. From there its a straight shot, mostly, over to LaRamana and then jump on the new highway that will get you on over to Punta Cana. PP to BC either way is about 3 hours but the north coast is less traffic, and the BC to PC is a little over 2 hours now with the new highway. Make sure you have pesos for the toll roads. And buy a map, just in case.I looked into the car rentals and they really hit you because you dropping off in another location so I was going to take the bus which I think, if I read online correctly leaves Sosua at 5:40 am and gets to pp at 1:30 pm.

Could that be right?

Second Coming
02-09-13, 18:38
Just a note of warning. Blackbeards was full last night and some of the guests who were attending a party a bb stayed in an overflow hotel just around the corner. Initially the mamasan agreed that there would be no bar fine for taking a Chica to the overflow hotel. The owner overruled that and apparently got pretty nasty about it. So much for the customer service at bb. My opinion is that if you are running a business you need to stand behind commitments made by your employees. Just my two cents

Charles Pooter
02-09-13, 23:22
Just a note of warning. Blackbeards was full last night and some of the guests who were attending a party a bb stayed in an overflow hotel just around the corner. Initially the mamasan agreed that there would be no bar fine for taking a Chica to the overflow hotel. The owner overruled that and apparently got pretty nasty about it. So much for the customer service at bb. My opinion is that if you are running a business you need to stand behind commitments made by your employees. Just my two centsJohn was clearly correct. People who were not guests at Blackbeards wanted to do Blackbeards chicas off the premises so they should pay a salida. If the mamasan agreed otherwise she was in the wrong.

As to whether the owner should stand behind her commitment, that could be a case of "lost in translation". As we have seen in one of two cases very recently, there are always two (or more) sides to these questions. But if she clearly and unambiguously agreed that, then yes, I would have expected him to honor it. On the other hand, if these guys had already proved troublesome he might have been glad to see the back of them. If Blackbeards was full, as you state, he might have already had his hands full and also needed all his chicas for his own guests.

Good little anecdote. Thanks for reporting. We like a bit of gossip on here!

Ath Trainer
02-10-13, 00:11
John was clearly correct. People who were not guests at Blackbeards wanted to do Blackbeards chicas off the premises so they should pay a salida. If the mamasan agreed otherwise she was in the wrong.

As to whether the owner should stand behind her commitment, that could be a case of "lost in translation". As we have seen in one of two cases very recently, there are always two (or more) sides to these questions. But if she clearly and unambiguously agreed that, then yes, I would have expected him to honor it. On the other hand, if these guys had already proved troublesome he might have been glad to see the back of them. If Blackbeards was full, as you state, he might have already had his hands full and also needed all his chicas for his own guests.

Good little anecdote. Thanks for reporting. We like a bit of gossip on here!That's what I was thinking, Charles. He really wasn't in a hurry to lose some of his girls when he had a full house.

Traveler04
02-10-13, 02:08
The policy out a salida has been in effect for a few years now. I remember a time before there was a salida policy when a group staying off site took many many girls for a private party. When the girls were gone there was not much action for any of us that were staying at BB's. It pretty much sucked the life out of the place.

Perhaps John would have made an exception if it was closer to closing and all of the guys staying at BB's had there evening dates? I would be interested to know if any of the guys staying off site were loyal BB's customers that just could not get a reservation. I would also like to now if the "overflow" hotel was set up by BB's because they were full? I have found John and Tim to be very accommodating for loyal customers.

The mamasan would not have the authority to waive the salida. That would be a John or Tim call. I am sure there was a conversation between John and the Mamasan to remove any doubt as to the chain of command when it comes to those types of decisions in the future. Say what you will about John he runs a tight ship and there is only ONE Captain!

OldKool
02-10-13, 02:10
They were overflo guest and should not penalized. It is poor customer service. John was wrongif I was one of the overflo guest I would be pissed.


That's what I was thinking, Charles. He really wasn't in a hurry to lose some of his girls when he had a full house.

Mr Gogo
02-10-13, 03:34
They were overflo guest and should not penalized. It is poor customer service. John was wrongif I was one of the overflo guest I would be pissed.I'm with kool, if BB was in association with the overflow hotel and benefitted financially from the recommendations then those guests should be treared as BB clients. If John is in no way associated with recommending the overflow hotel then those are not his hotel guests.

Doker44
02-10-13, 04:13
They were overflo guest and should not penalized. It is poor customer service. John was wrongif I was one of the overflo guest I would be pissed.Ok do you know for a fact that they were overflo guest, in other words BB's booked them and put them in Atlantic One or whatever other hotel. I claim BS I have personally seen many times someone booked in Atlantic One through BB's and they didn't pay any exit fee. Second BS call, no way the mamasan waived the fee, she has no where near that authority, you pay it at the desk!" My guess a bunch rolled in and tried to yank a bunch of woman out and BB's said NO, as they should have! Secondcoming you cant just party at BB's and yank the woman, the regulars, Johns bread and butter, hate this which they should! I think the exit fee should be much more then 20 dollars and the only reason it is that low is because the girls dont understand why they cant leave, they have no concept of working for a company and making sure it is successful so they continue to be employed.

OldKool
02-10-13, 07:43
It was clearly indicated that they were overflo guest in the reprort Read the dam thing.


Ok do you know for a fact that they were overflo guest, in other words BB's booked them and put them in Atlantic One or whatever other hotel. I claim BS I have personally seen many times someone booked in Atlantic One through BB's and they didn't pay any exit fee. Second BS call, no way the mamasan waived the fee, she has no where near that authority, you pay it at the desk!" My guess a bunch rolled in and tried to yank a bunch of woman out and BB's said NO, as they should have! Secondcoming you cant just party at BB's and yank the woman, the regulars, Johns bread and butter, hate this which they should! I think the exit fee should be much more then 20 dollars and the only reason it is that low is because the girls dont understand why they cant leave, they have no concept of working for a company and making sure it is successful so they continue to be employed.

Doker44
02-10-13, 13:38
It was clearly indicated that they were overflo guest in the reprort Read the dam thing.I read the report I just call BS! It reads funny "Blackbeards was full last night and some of the guests who were attending a party at bb stayed in an overflow hotel just around the corner" What does he mean attended a party? What party? You don't attend if your truly an overflo guest you are technically staying at BB's and have complete use of the pool and jacuzzi and don't pay exit fees. I have seen this many times over the years and never seen anyone pay an exit fee, so what changed? I find it hard to believe these guys paid and booked through BB's were put in a hotel down the road and John said you have to pay exit fees. The report sounds written from second hand info. I think I will hold off before I say BB's is providing bad customer service.

Ath Trainer
02-10-13, 18:56
Just a note of warning. Blackbeards was full last night and some of the guests who were attending a party a bb stayed in an overflow hotel just around the corner. Initially the mamasan agreed that there would be no bar fine for taking a Chica to the overflow hotel. The owner overruled that and apparently got pretty nasty about it. So much for the customer service at bb. My opinion is that if you are running a business you need to stand behind commitments made by your employees. Just my two centsIt does not sound like Second Coming was one of the "guests" attending a partyatBB, who was charged a bar fine for taking the girls to another hotel. Therefore, there may be more to the story than being assumed.

He is also a member with few posts, so he may not be that experienced as to how things usually transpire at BB.

If BB is full, can they afford to allow a bunch of girls to leave and go elsewhere? If the overflow guests are booked at BB, and were expecting the standard service offered there, that's another story.

Second Coming should report back and clarify this situation.

RadPoker
02-10-13, 20:25
It does not sound like Second Coming was one of the "guests" attending a partyatBB, who was charged a bar fine for taking the girls to another hotel. Therefore, there may be more to the story than being assumed.

He is also a member with few posts, so he may not be that experienced as to how things usually transpire at BB.

If BB is full, can they afford to allow a bunch of girls to leave and go elsewhere? If the overflow guests are booked at BB, and were expecting the standard service offered there, that's another story.

Second Coming should report back and clarify this situation.Good Afternoon, I was at BB's last week and yes the place was full. A few of my friends stayed at a second hotel (provided by BB'S). They were NOT charged to take girls from BB's to their rooms. Tim was very good about helping everyone out. It was like always, excellent service. I love the service and the staff is always the best. John runs a great place.

Thanks

Charles Pooter
02-10-13, 21:44
A few of my friends stayed at a second hotel (provided by BB'S). They were NOT charged to take girls from BB's to their rooms.This make complete sense. It could also be the explanation. If the guys in the "party" were not booked into an overflow location by Blackbeards, but they saw other guys (perhaps even in the same location) not being charged salidas they might have wrongly assumed they were entitled. It could also explain the mamasan's confusion if she assumed they were in the "Blackbeards arranged" overflow group. All gringos look alike to Dominicans.

I knew the OP would generate a lot of replies.

Doker44
02-12-13, 03:27
This make complete sense. It could also be the explanation. If the guys in the "party" were not Booked into an overflow location by Blackbeards, but they saw other guys (perhaps even in the same location) not being charged salidas they might have wrongly assumed they were entitled. It could also explain the mamasan's confusion if she assumed they were in the "Blackbeards arranged" overflow group. All gringos look alike to Dominicans.

I knew the OP would generate a lot of replies.Bingo, this makes the most sense!

Passingthetime
02-12-13, 04:03
Anyone have any BB advice for a newb. I have everything settled for getting there but would appreciate any advice on how to handle the ladies and work the place like I know what I am doing. I have a feeling these ladies can spot a new guy a mile away. Feel free to send me a private message if you don't want to post.

Thanks,

T.

Buscemi
02-12-13, 04:58
Anyone have any BB advice for a newb. I have everything settled for getting there but would appreciate any advice on how to handle the ladies and work the place like I know what I am doing. I have a feeling these ladies can spot a new guy a mile away. Feel free to send me a private message if you don't want to post.

Thanks,

T.What are you worried about, the prices are fixed in BB, learn a few words of Spanish and make sure your dick works!

Passingthetime
02-12-13, 06:14
What are you worried about, the prices are fixed in BB, learn a few words of Spanish and make sure your dick works!Not really worried about busting a nut. As you pointed out; as long as my dick works, I'll be fine. More interested in maximizing my experience. Anyone can pay a woman for sex; the real trick is getting more from the experience than a used condom to throw away. Look for answers related to what gets these girls to do their best for you. It has been my experience that money alone does not do it.

T.

Chris Long
02-12-13, 07:11
Anyone have any BB advice for a newb. I have everything settled for getting there but would appreciate any advice on how to handle the ladies and work the place like I know what I am doing. I have a feeling these ladies can spot a new guy a mile away. Feel free to send me a private message if you don't want to post.

Thanks,

T.Not much to know about BB it's all laid out, prices are fixed services are pretty much established even without negotiating, but make sure you let her know what you want before you take her up just to be sure. You hang out by the pool by the bar or play pool and the girls will be all over you, if you're a newbie or an old hand they will still give you the eye and try to get you to take them up for a session, just be able to tell them no if you dont want to. BB is designed for newbies it is one of the best places on the island for a newbie to learn the monger scene in the DR. Take plenty of condoms, plenty of vitamins and be ready to have lots of sex.

Chris

TravelGuyCan
02-12-13, 17:09
Not much to know about BB it's all laid out, prices are fixed services are pretty much established even without negotiating, but make sure you let her know what you want before you take her up just to be sure. You hang out by the pool by the bar or play pool and the girls will be all over you, if you're a newbie or an old hand they will still give you the eye and try to get you to take them up for a session, just be able to tell them no if you don't want to. BB is designed for newbies it is one of the best places on the island for a newbie to learn the monger scene in the DR. Take plenty of condoms, plenty of vitamins and be ready to have lots of sex.

ChrisExactly right, BB is a freshman training camp perfect for newbies until. You graduate to Bootcamp Sosua, senior year.

For newbies not just from a perspective of chica but exploring the surrounding costambar itself, and getting comfortable getting out of the hotel.

Bb had its value in that I learned I prefer to hunt and Bb is not for that, for that reason I will not return

ChicaMaster
02-13-13, 01:17
The policy out a salida has been in effect for a few years now. I remember a time before there was a salida policy when a group staying off site took many many girls for a private party. When the girls were gone there was not much action for any of us that were staying at BB's. It pretty much sucked the life out of the place.

Perhaps John would have made an exception if it was closer to closing and all of the guys staying at BB's had there evening dates? I would be interested to know if any of the guys staying off site were loyal BB's customers that just could not get a reservation. I would also like to now if the "overflow" hotel was set up by BB's because they were full? I have found John and Tim to be very accommodating for loyal customers.

The mamasan would not have the authority to waive the salida. That would be a John or Tim call. I am sure there was a conversation between John and the Mamasan to remove any doubt as to the chain of command when it comes to those types of decisions in the future. Say what you will about John he runs a tight ship and there is only ONE Captain!Ok let me clear this all up fellows. I am the person who actually booked the event at BB and was the one responsible for all of this to happen so please let me clear this all up.

Here is what happened. I own a website and we had a huge party and we booked three hotels up and completly sold them all out. One at FOD one at BB and one around the corner from bb. So let me explain.

Here was my train of thought. I always thought that the mamasan was in charge of the chicas and the management was in charge of the hotel so I decided to send cristal a email explaining how I have a few guys that wanted to stay at bb but since it was already booked up if they stayed at the overflow hotel if they would be charged a exit fee and I was told that they would NOT be charged since it was part of the group and they could not get a room at the bb so it would be no charge. Then when the time arrived for these members to take a girl out for a short time or a tln I don't remember which one it was but they were told by rosa there is a exit fee. Now I was not around when all this happneed and when I arrived I was told what happened and figured that cristal never spoke to rosa and there was a communication break down and I would straigten it out in the am (now mind you members from my site MOD members actually paid the fee for the member) so the next morning I talked to cristal and she insisted that there is no charge and she would talk to martha and fix all of this and she did and the miscommunication was she thought it was booked directly through BB not through my group and that is where to communication break down came from and I spoke to John the owner today and he explained how it happened as well and I am sure he will post something. But to be honest it was a little miscommunication between myself. The mamasan and management. Once john got involved he exaplained it to me and it made perfect sense.

As far as the members that got the short end of the stick I will be reaching out to them and working something out with them and explaining more about this to them as well. I hope this cleared up somethings about all this but John the owner apologized to me a bunch of times for the miscommunication and all should be fine now.

BogieMaker
02-14-13, 08:13
exactly right, bb is a freshman training camp perfect for newbies until. you graduate to bootcamp sosua, senior year.

for newbies not just from a perspective of chica but exploring the surrounding costambar itself, and getting comfortable getting out of the hotel.

bb had its value in that i learned i prefer to hunt and bb is not for that, for that reason i will not returnalthough i agree that bb would be easier for a first time traveler that sosua or other areas in the dr, i do not feel you can compare bb and sosua to freshman vs senior year. it's not like it is difficult getting laid in sosua and as far as quality i feel the girls at bb are every bit as good as what can be had elsewhere in the dr. bb and sosua are different but i don't think "hunting" in sosusa makes you any more of a monger than feeding from the trough at bb.

for me, i want a hassle free vacation that includes my favorite activity (s). i agree the activities at bb are basically low key and the place closes down at 11:30 or midnight but that suits me fine since i am in bed early even when staying in sosua. costambar offers a safe environment for a long morning walk, the food and rooms are top notch at bb and you don't have to worry about **** girls or getting ripped off. to me this is the ideal vacation and i prefer low key to loud music, questionable quarters and the drama i read about on the sosua thread. i like to drive to sosua, visit the beach, eat at baileys and sample the girls at passions but i feel at home when i return to bb.

i assume there are as many ideas of what the perfect vacation might be as there are mongers but for me the bb experience is about as good as it gets. this does not make me inexperienced or less of a man but a person who has found a place that makes ten hours of air travel worth the trip.

i for one will always stop for at least a couple days at bb when in the dr.

Orgasmico
02-14-13, 12:50
Then when the time arrived for these members to take a girl out for a short time or a tln I don't remember which one it was but they were told by rosa there is a exit fee.How much was this salida? Just curious since so much is being written about this.

Hillbilly69
02-14-13, 12:55
How much was this salida? Just curious since so much is being written about this.800 pesos or 20 dollars which is the same at current exchange rate, at least it was that the last time I was there.

Second Coming
02-14-13, 17:07
This is probably going to start flame wars but what the heck. Here is my perspective on BB vs FOD. I've stayed at BB a couple of times in the past and ended up in FOD because BB was full. I was with the catamaran group so couldn't change dates. Anyway, here are my thoughts
1. Girls. The girls at BB are "working girls trying to party" and the girls at FOD are "party girls trying to be working girls". Don't get me wrong. I like working girls. Being ancient like I am, it takes a good working girl to give me a good time. Hell, sometimes they need to get the flashlight out to look for the dick between the folds of belly fat. You'll get a more consistent BJ at BBs. BUt you'll get a whole lot more enthusiasm at FOD. You might have to give them a pointer or two but they'll remember the next time. In general, the girls at FOD are about as good looking as the ones at BB, BUT they are not quite as well "made up". Depends on what you are into. Younger more natural looking party girls at FOD who will work, or good looking professionals at BB.

2. The food at FODis barely passable. It won't get you sick and the hamburger is not as bad as some of the reports. BB's food is a whole lot better. At FOD, the saving grace is that there are a bunch of awesome restaurants within a 5 minute taxi ride. Pedro, one of the owners set us up with a seafood place yesterday and is was one of the best meals I've had in DR. Costambar has a few choices, but in general if you want to eat well, FOD's location is a whole lot better.

3. Organization. Well, BB runs a tight ship. FOD misses some of the details. For example if you mind going to bar when occasionally you run out of toilet paper then you should stay at BB. I don't mind wiping my ass with a towel, so FOD works for me.

All in all I've had a better time at FOD this time than my previous trips to BB. Here is what I mean.

Last Thursday was a catamaran trip. I was supposed to bring a girl but I don't speak Spanish so I accidentally asked two. Oh we'll, it made for a good trip and a great threesome. First time I've fucked in a jacuzzi. Now I'm addicted to it.

Friday was the private party at BB. It was a bust as far as I was concerned. Maybe it got better after I left early. Picked up a girl at FOD, stopped by her house to see her kid, had some street food and called it a night.

Saturday was the private party at FOD's mansion. Topples, bottomless, lesbian shows, and other assorted debauchery. Sunday I had a limp dick and other old man's woes.

Monday started slow with a UNO game with girls. Before we knew it, there were 5 naked girls in my room with3 other guys. I don't remember much except girls taking turns at me. At one time there were three trying to get me up. I just don't deserve that much fun. Hard to imagine if somethinglikethat would happen at BB's.

Tuesday was on the Malecon at Big Lees fish and chips place. Great fish, live music, wind in your hair. That last one is a lie, I don't have hair anymore.

Wednesday we had the greatest karaoke party at FOD. Some of these girls can really sing. 25 girls and 3 to 4 gringos, cant beat the ratio. Had a whale of a time. We're going to try to beat this with a shrimp and fish fry party on Saturday so if anyone's around, drop in. Free shrimp until it runs out, and all the girls you can eat.

You can see why, I think I'll probably end up FOD next time even if BB is not full.

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Bliadun
02-14-13, 20:22
How much you've ended up paying to girls taking turns at you?

Did you discuss the price before orgy started?


This is probably going to start flame wars but what the heck. Here is my perspective on BB vs FOD. I've stayed at BB a couple of times in the past and ended up in FOD because BB was full. I was with the catamaran group so couldn't change dates. Anyway, here are my thoughts.

1. Girls. The girls at BB are "working girls trying to party" and the girls at FOD are "party girls trying to be working girls". Don't get me wrong. I like working girls. Being ancient like I am, it takes a good working girl to give me a good time. Hell, sometimes they need to get the flashlight out to look for the dick between the folds of belly fat. You'll get a more consistent BJ at BBs. BUt you'll get a whole lot more enthusiasm at FOD. You might have to give them a pointer or two but they'll remember the next time. In general, the girls at FOD are about as good looking as the ones at BB, BUT they are not quite as well "made up". Depends on what you are into. Younger more natural looking party girls at FOD who will work, or good looking professionals at BB.

2. The food at FODis barely passable. It won't get you sick and the hamburger is not as bad as some of the reports. BB's food is a whole lot better. At FOD, the saving grace is that there are a bunch of awesome restaurants within a 5 minute taxi ride. Pedro, one of the owners set us up with a seafood place yesterday and is was one of the best meals I've had in DR. Costambar has a few choices, but in general if you want to eat well, FOD's location is a whole lot better.

3. Organization. Well, BB runs a tight ship. FOD misses some of the details. For example if you mind going to bar when occasionally you run out of toilet paper then you should stay at BB. I don't mind wiping my ass with a towel, so FOD works for me.

All in all I've had a better time at FOD this time than my previous trips to BB. Here is what I mean.

Last Thursday was a catamaran trip. I was supposed to bring a girl but I don't speak Spanish so I accidentally asked two. Oh we'll, it made for a good trip and a great threesome. First time I've fucked in a jacuzzi. Now I'm addicted to it.

Friday was the private party at BB. It was a bust as far as I was concerned. Maybe it got better after I left early. Picked up a girl at FOD, stopped by her house to see her kid, had some street food and called it a night.

Saturday was the private party at FOD's mansion. Topples, bottomless, lesbian shows, and other assorted debauchery. Sunday I had a limp dick and other old man's woes.

Monday started slow with a UNO game with girls. Before we knew it, there were 5 naked girls in my room with3 other guys. I don't remember much except girls taking turns at me. At one time there were three trying to get me up. I just don't deserve that much fun. Hard to imagine if somethinglikethat would happen at BB's.

Tuesday was on the Malecon at Big Lees fish and chips place. Great fish, live music, wind in your hair. That last one is a lie, I don't have hair anymore.

Wednesday we had the greatest karaoke party at FOD. Some of these girls can really sing. 25 girls and 3 to 4 gringos, can't beat the ratio. Had a whale of a time. We're going to try to beat this with a shrimp and fish fry party on Saturday so if anyone's around, drop in. Free shrimp until it runs out, and all the girls you can eat.

You can see why, I think I'll probably end up FOD next time even if BB is not full.

Sent from my iPad

Orgasmico
02-15-13, 01:58
This is probably going to start flame wars but what the heck. Here is my perspective on BB vs FOD.Good analysis and probably the best plug for FOD we've had in awhile.

Manny51
02-15-13, 02:13
This is probably going to start flame wars but what the heck. Here is my perspective on BB vs FOD. I've stayed at BB a couple of times in the past and ended up in FOD because BB was full. I was with the catamaran group so couldn't change dates. Anyway, here are my thoughts.

You can see why, I think I'll probably end up FOD next time even if BB is not full.

Sent from my iPadGreat description. Been thinking of going, but plane tickets to POP are expensive, as it is kind of an uncommon tourist route, so I have been following the posts about FOD closely.

Although FOD seems like it has potential, the biggest concern that I've had is going there and being the only guy there, or maybe one of just a few guys. If there isn't enough traffic, all the women lock on you, making for a very awkward situation. I've read many reports saying that although there is some potential, there just not enough people, men and women, coming through there. This is the big concern. I can always eat somewhere else.

GentleLapper
02-15-13, 02:30
Great description. Been thinking of going, but plane tickets to POP are expensive, as it is kind of an uncommon tourist route, so I have been following the posts about FOD closely.

Although FOD seems like it has potential, the biggest concern that I've had is going there and being the only guy there, or maybe one of just a few guys. If there isn't enough traffic, all the women lock on you, making for a very awkward situation. I've read many reports saying that although there is some potential, there just not enough people, men and women, coming through there. This is the big concern. I can always eat somewhere else.Hi I'm new here; I guessed what "BB" was abreviated for. Who is "FOD"

Riky Rapido
02-15-13, 03:19
Great description. Been thinking of going, but plane tickets to POP are expensive, as it is kind of an uncommon tourist route, so I have been following the posts about FOD closely.

Although FOD seems like it has potential, the biggest concern that I've had is going there and being the only guy there, or maybe one of just a few guys. If there isn't enough traffic, all the women lock on you, making for a very awkward situation. I've read many reports saying that although there is some potential, there just not enough people, men and women, coming through there. This is the big concern. I can always eat somewhere else.Stopped off at FOD a couple of times either going or coming from Sosua. Been there when it had a reasonable crowd of guys, and when I was the only one. I have never been pressured by the girls. Management has them well trained. FOD food looks good, like I said, I'm a transplant but don't stop there to eat.

Tempoecorto
02-15-13, 04:26
This is probably going to start flame wars but what the heck. Here is my perspective on BB vs FOD. I've stayed at BB a couple of times in the past and ended up in FOD because BB was full. I was with the catamaran group so couldn't change dates.What a wonderful sense of self-deprecating humor. Perhaps you should mull over changing your biblical handle to "wind in the hair"? LOL.

Thoroughly enjoyed the write up and frankly got tempted to share the 'assorted debauchery". Even though I never thought of stepping into either. Well, I may have a second thought coming. Look forward to more such comedic relief. Backed up by solid data.

Charles Pooter
02-15-13, 04:33
. probably the best plug for FOD we've had in a while.Not sure if the revelation that he wipes his ass on their towels will encourage new clients though. He's right about their slackness in maintaining the toilets, though, and that has been a problem ever since the new managers came in. Barba Negra is much more professional on those sorts of easily remedied customer service issues.

Some good observations, and he is spot on about the chicas, but he omitted some of FoD's assets.

- Puerto Plata is a much better town than Sosua for those who are mainly interested in picking up non-pros and semi-pros, and FoD is a more convenient place to take them than, say, Blackbeards. (Would be even better if they got rid of the tasteless murals though. When I used to take non-pros and semi-pros there years back I always reassured them it was a motel, not a cabana. The murals undermine that argument).

- FoD is opposite a golf course (and used to attract a lot of golfers in Dominican Billy's days).

- The beach (actually choice of three beaches) is better for bathers than Costambar (though not a short walk like it is from Blackbeards).

- It's a lot easier and cheaper to get to and from Sosua than it is from Blackbeards.

TravelGuyCan
02-15-13, 04:55
although i agree that bb would be easier for a first time traveler that sosua or other areas in the dr, i do not feel you can compare bb and sosua to freshman vs senior year. it's not like it is difficult getting laid in sosua and as far as quality i feel the girls at bb are every bit as good as what can be had elsewhere in the dr. bb and sosua are different but i don't think "hunting" in sosusa makes you any more of a monger than feeding from the trough at bb.

for me, i want a hassle free vacation that includes my favorite activity (s). i agree the activities at bb are basically low key and the place closes down at 11:30 or midnight but that suits me fine since i am in bed early even when staying in sosua. costambar offers a safe environment for a long morning walk, the food and rooms are top notch at bb and you don't have to worry about **** girls or getting ripped off. to me this is the ideal vacation and i prefer low key to loud music, questionable quarters and the drama i read about on the sosua thread. i like to drive to sosua, visit the beach, eat at baileys and sample the girls at passions but i feel at home when i return to bb.

i assume there are as many ideas of what the perfect vacation might be as there are mongers but for me the bb experience is about as good as it gets. this does not make me inexperienced or less of a man but a person who has found a place that makes ten hours of air travel worth the trip.

i for one will always stop for at least a couple days at bb when in the dr.calling costambar 'safe' and bb girls 'hassle free' proves my point exactly. at bb, there is no risk or negoatiation. the price.

is fixed, and you can chose a girl from standing in your room's doorway. the girl is somewhat afraid to lose

the privilege of working there so she is not going to cause drama on you.

in sosua, while not exactly dangerous, there are certain side streets you would not want to walk down at night.

you will likely be harrassed. you also run the risk of the girl causing drama, and who do you have to turn to? noone.

but yourself.

for me, bb has a limited selection. if i don't like the lineup, too bad, got to wait until the next days shift

of girls. if i take a girl at midnight, and she doesn't give me what i want, too bad, stuck with it.

in sosua, i can hunt and get exactly what i want whenever i want it. open season and at less than the price at bb.

ofcourse any idiot with 100 us $ can get laid easily in sosua; the challenge is to get a girl for much less than.

that at a higher level of service and consistently; it's possible, but you need some game. speak spanish, know how.

to negotiate etc.

doesn't matter at bb's. ask the lion at the zoo 'why unhappy' when meal is handed to him.

it's not natural. maybe when i am older.

Second Coming
02-15-13, 08:59
How much you've ended up paying to girls taking turns at you?

Did you discuss the price before orgy started?The girls started chanting the room number with jacuzzi so we told them we would pay them 1500 each. I'm sure we could have negotiated and paid them more, but then I would get flamed for spoiling the market.

Actually now that you mention it, we never discussed anything else. It sort of happened. Contrary to all the advice, I have never actually negotiated for services or price. At BB and FOD I just give them 1600 or 3000 up front and hope it works out. If it doesn't I just never take them again. At places like Sosua, I ignore their asking price and tell them the going rate. Never had a problem. The service provider will accept less if they are experiencing adverse circumstances. Do you really want to take advantage of that? I bargain only when it matters, but to each his or her own



By the way this was NOT an orgy. By definition, an orgy is when a girl is spit roasted. This was simply a game of musical chairs

Second Coming
02-15-13, 09:35
Like everyone has said, BB runs a professional ship. You may not be able to get toilet paper when you need it atFOD, but there are some other advantages. One of the owners stays in a room at FOD and last night or the night before, some customer had an issue with a girl, and lo and behold he woke up another girl in the middle of the night. All is well that ends well I say. There are some advantages to having a selection staying in a dorm on campus!

Some astute observers might have noticed that I am posting in the middle of the night, a time traditionally reserved for normal nocturnal activities like demolishing temporary erections (although at my age you have to get the demolition crew working on it immediately before it collapses on its own) - the reason is that I had fish n chips at Big Lees and i saw no particular reason Not to overdo it, so I had a second order. A word of warning. Eating two orders at Big Lees is a great idea at 7 in the evening, but be prepared to suffer like a bloated pig

And no, I'm not paid by FOD, big lee,BB

GentleLapper
02-16-13, 01:26
What resort is "FOD"?

I would like to check them out (FOD). I was already at Black Beards, and I didn't get along there.

Thanks,

Gentle Lapper

GentleLapper
02-16-13, 01:40
This is probably going to start flame wars but what the heck. Here is my perspective on BB vs FOD. I've stayed at BB a couple of times in the past and ended up in FOD because BB was full. I was with the catamaran group so couldn't change dates. Anyway, here are my thoughts.

1. Girls. The girls at BB are "working girls trying to party" and the girls at FOD...What resort is FOD abreviated for?

GentleLapper
02-16-13, 03:39
Hi I'm new here; I guessed what "BB" was abreviated for. Who is "FOD"Never Mind, I figured it out. I may want to try FOD. Seems to be better than BB from what I'm reading here.

Any advice on FOD's packages? I rather "pay and go" like I did at BB. Has anybody just paid the room rates, and Ala Carte the rest?

Money wise is it about the same BB via FOD when just doing the room rates, without the packages?

Gentlelapper

Bliadun
02-16-13, 10:16
You meant that each guy paid each girl 1500?

Definition of ORGY from Merriam Webster:

1. Secret ceremonial rites held in honor of an ancient Greek or Roman deity and usually characterized by ecstatic singing and dancing.

2. Drunken revelry.

Be : a sexual encounter involving many people; also : an excessive sexual indulgence.

3. Excessive indulgence in something especially to satisfy an inordinate appetite or craving <an orgy of destruction <a national orgy of thrill seeking and risk taking — K. T. Greenfeld.


The girls started chanting the room number with jacuzzi so we told them we would pay them 1500 each. I'm sure we could have negotiated and paid them more, but then I would get flamed for spoiling the market.

Actually now that you mention it, we never discussed anything else. It sort of happened. Contrary to all the advice, I have never actually negotiated for services or price. At BB and FOD I just give them 1600 or 3000 up front and hope it works out. If it doesn't I just never take them again. At places like Sosua, I ignore their asking price and tell them the going rate. Never had a problem. The service provider will accept less if they are experiencing adverse circumstances. Do you really want to take advantage of that? I bargain only when it matters, but to each his or her own.

By the way this was NOT an orgy. By definition, an orgy is when a girl is spit roasted. This was simply a game of musical chairs

Charles Pooter
02-16-13, 22:45
I rather "pay and go" like I did at BB. Has anybody just paid the room rates, and a la carte the rest?That's what most people do. Returning guests, who already know they like the place, may book a longer stay in advance to negotiate a discount, but first-timers are ill-advised to do that in case they aren't happy there.

We would be interested to know why you didn't like Blackbeards. It could have a bearing on whether you will like Field of Dreams. For example, if you said it was too far to walk to the beach at Blackbeards then you won't like Field of Dreams. (OK, that was a silly example but I don't want to speculate on other and more likely reasons).


Moneywise is it about the same, BB versus FOD, when just doing the room rates, without the packages?I would say so. FOD has one or two premium rate rooms as well. Not sure if Blackbeards does? The standard rooms are about the same. Because FoD is quieter, guests can probably negotiate a good discount for longer stays in the off season, but that is not now.

Why don't you check prices on their respective websites.

Second Coming
02-16-13, 23:31
You meant that each guy paid each girl 1500?

Definition g — K. T. Greenfeld.I'm might be old but not senile. Each girl got1500 total. Shit, we were having a party, not a give away.

Second Coming
02-16-13, 23:42
You meant that each guy paid each girl 1500?

Definition of ORGY from Merriam Webster:

1. Secret ceremonial rites held in honor of an ancient Greek or Roman deity and usually characterized by ecstatic singing and dancing.

2. Drunken revelry.

Be : a sexual encounter involving many people; also : an excessive sexual indulgence.

3. Excessive indulgence in something especially to satisfy an inordinate appetite or craving <an orgy of destruction <a national orgy of thrill seeking and risk taking — K. T. Greenfeld.Like I said, this was not an orgy. I don't recall any roman or Greek deity, neither do I recall any excessive indulgence. Three or four women at the same time is hardly excessive. I was too drunk to participate in any revelry. Three women sucking on your dick is hardly excessive. Besides, they couldn't do it at once because the small dimensions associated with my genitals did not allow for three mouths. Upon further analysis I must conclude that my balls and nipples were also involved.

FOD is pay as you go. They have an all inclusive but I can't find any reason at all to do that.

Manny51
02-17-13, 00:27
You meant that each guy paid each girl 1500?

Definition of ORGY from Merriam Webster:

1. Secret ceremonial rites held in honor of an ancient Greek or Roman deity and usually characterized by ecstatic singing and dancing.

2. Drunken revelry.

Be : a sexual encounter involving many people; also : an excessive sexual indulgence.

3. Excessive indulgence in something especially to satisfy an inordinate appetite or craving <an orgy of destruction <a national orgy of thrill seeking and risk taking — K. T. Greenfeld.Somewhere in there is also the implication of multiple men AND women in the same room, all rolling around together. I don't think that one guy and three girls constitutes an orgy. True orgies have always kind of weirded me out. I am dreading the thought of "crossing swords."

Second Coming
02-17-13, 01:08
I don't usually post any pictures, but I might make an exception. A friend I met and I chipped in a hundred bucks each to get shrimp, and other stuff. The cook fixed it up and we had a grand old time at FOD. The girls and anyone that walked in had free shrimp. That wasn't the end either. FOD decided to get a karaoke machine and man, this was one party toned all. It's still going on as I write this. Just had a chica dance in my face, pulled her panties aside before she could object. Too bad the ratio of gringos is not good for the girls, but hell, I'm past caring. Looking forward to two of them sucking my dick. Awesome. I think BBis just too structured for me. I guess to each his own. For me the wild party which ends in my room is a lot more fun then chasing a chica

Mr Enternational
02-17-13, 02:26
Somewhere in there is also the implication of multiple men AND women in the same room, all rolling around together. I don't think that one guy and three girls constitutes an orgy. True orgies have always kind of weirded me out. I am dreading the thought of "crossing swords."So you guys are saying that group sex should not be confused with an orgy?

James Neutron
02-17-13, 03:43
Hi Guys.

My first trip to the DR with 3 friends made it more politically correct to book us into an AI in the Playa Dorada complex (Barcelo) rather than Sosoua. I have RTTF but still had a couple of questions.

We do plan on going to Sosoua at least 1 night and maybe Puerto Plata another but, I was hoping for some daily fun and really appreciate a massage with a BBBJ at the end. Any chance of getting this on the beach in Playa Dorada? I realize we are in a tourist area so, please give me an idea of how much and if you can recommend anyone or anyplace in particular.

I am planning on walking over to FOD at least a couple of times during the week. I think members of the board get some special consideration but I am unsure what and how to politely make them aware of the affiliation.

Suggestions appreciated and I will post some of my experiences after the trip. (going in the beginning of March)

Also. How the hell do you say BBBJ in spanish? Love 'them and want to be able to make things clear up front so there are no surprises later.

Thanks for the help.

Jimmy

Second Coming
02-17-13, 13:10
Hi Guys.

My first trip to the DR with 3 friends made it more politically correct to book us into an AI in the Playa Dorada complex (Barcelo) rather than Sosoua. I have RTTF but still had a couple of questions.

We do plan on going to Sosoua at least 1 night and maybe Puerto Plata another but, I was hoping for some daily fun and really appreciate a massage with a BBBJ at the end. Any chance of getting this on the beach in Playa Dorada? I realize we are in a tourist area so, please give me an idea of how much and if you can recommend anyone or anyplace in particular.

I am planning on walking over to FOD at least a couple of times during the week. I think members of the board get some special consideration but I am unsure what and how to politely make them aware of the affiliation.

Suggestions appreciated and I will post some of my experiences after the trip. (going in the beginning of March)

Also. How the hell do you say BBBJ in spanish? Love 'them and want to be able to make things clear up front so there are no surprises later.

Thanks for the help.

JimmyI'm sure you can get what you want at Playa Dorada. Never heard of such a thing but this is DR and all problems can be solved with money. Your best bet is to walk over to FOD, and you can do a short time. A couple of guys who were staying at Playa Dorada were doing that while I was at FOD. The guys that came over used their friends room. I'm not sure if FOD does short term rentals but like I said, all problems are solvable. BBBJ is kind of standard, so most girls will do it. If in doubt have one of the English speaking girls explain it to your date

Mr Gogo
02-17-13, 13:27
I'm sure you can get what you want at Playa Dorada. Never heard of such a thing but this is DR and all problems can be solved with money. Your best bet is to walk over to FOD, and you can do a short time. A couple of guys who were staying at Playa Dorada were doing that while I was at FOD. The guys that came over used their friends room. I'm not sure if FOD does short term rentals but like I said, all problems are solvable. BBBJ is kind of standard, so most girls will do it. If in doubt have one of the English speaking girls explain it to your dateNo Sir! Buying pussy in Playa Dorado is a no go. The beach in Playa Dorado is mostly full of couples and families.

Buscemi
02-17-13, 15:54
Also. How the hell do you say BBBJ in spanish? Love 'them and want to be able to make things clear up front so there are no surprises later.BBBJ is Spanish is "Chupa sin condon", pretty much a standard in DR!

I would take a mid-afternoon ride over to Sosua, since there are a few of you, just take a taxi to play it safe. You could make a deal with a local, like a brother or friend of one of the AI workers to drive you there, hang out and take you safely back to the resort. A regular taxi is going to gouge you, so find a trustworthy local friend of a resort bar-tender to take you.

When you get to Sosua, explore the town a little, have a beer at Rumba Bar, late afternoon, but go to Passions, there are on-site rooms, and you can get an hour of full service there, includes the room for RD2500.
There are 20 + chicas there to choose from, and it is a very controlled environment. Drinks are reasonable, RD100 a beer or Cuba libre.

Here is The Passion's website, to get an idea of the chicas:
There are always 4-5 stunners in the mix.

http://passions-sosua.com/Passions/Models.html

Yanqui69
02-17-13, 16:49
I'm sure you can get what you want at Playa Dorada. Never heard of such a thing but this is DR and all problems can be solved with money. Your best bet is to walk over to FOD, and you can do a short time. A couple of guys who were staying at Playa Dorada were doing that while I was at FOD. The guys that came over used their friends room. I'm not sure if FOD does short term rentals but like I said, all problems are solvable. BBBJ is kind of standard, so most girls will do it. If in doubt have one of the English speaking girls explain it to your dateIn addition to what was just covered, I did the short-term thing at FOD when staying at Playa Dorada, and FOD only charged $20 for the short-term use of a room.

And yes, BBBJ would be "una chupada sin condon" or "una mamada sin condon"

If staying at Playa Dorada, its hard to beat for convenience and proximity.

Buena Suerte

Charles Pooter
02-17-13, 17:03
I'm sure you can get what you want at Playa Dorada. Never heard of such a thing but this is DR and all problems can be solved with money. Your best bet is to walk over to FOD, and you can do a short time. A couple of guys who were staying at Playa Dorada were doing that while I was at FOD. The guys that came over used their friends room. I'm not sure if FOD does short term rentals but like I said, all problems are solvable. BBBJ is kind of standard, so most girls will do it. If in doubt have one of the English speaking girls explain it to your dateNo chance of sex on the beach at Playa Dorada. It is a family hotel and security would throw you out. You could try the adjacent beaches to the left and right where you just might get lucky. But I don't see the problem with walking to FoD. It is 15 minutes slow walk through the gold course, safe and mostly shaded.

The mamasan and staff speak English there so you can be quite frank with your requirements. BBBJ should be standard, CIM and anal are not and will cost more and need to be specified in advance.

And if you guys are reasonably presentable you could try your luck with non-pros and semi-pros in Puerto Plata in the daytime. Cheap and easy to get to there and to Sosua on public transport but with four of you you could afford a taxi. Or are your three companions celibate? I ask that because I cannot understand why four guys would book into an AI. You could have rented a villa in Sosua.

Charles Pooter
02-17-13, 17:37
Hi James.

My last post should have read "golf" course. There are gold-mines in the DR but none at Playa Dorada (despite the name).

Also to clarify, when I wrote that the staff speak English at Field of Dreams I meant the management, of which there are always one or two on duty. Most of the putas speak little or no English, though a few are proficient, usually the older ones who have sucked a million dicks in their day.

I see this is your first post. Don't know if you have PM access? If so, send me a PM and I might be able to help you further.

I live full-time in Puerto Plata.

Good info from Yanqui 68 and Buscemi, by the way. Two posters who know what they are talking about.

Charles Pooter
02-17-13, 18:26
A regular taxi is going to gouge you.Especially those serving an AI. They pay a lot to get the concession, same as airport taxis are always dear.


find a trustworthy local friend of a resort bar-tender to take you.Good idea (except that "trustworthy Dominican" is an oxymoron). If you draw a blank I know a guy who will quote you a price way below the AI taxis. His car is a bit of a heap, but that is to your advantage. If the locals see you arrive in a smart new vehicle you will be targeted as rich newbies.

James Neutron
02-17-13, 19:18
Especially those serving an AI. They pay a lot to get the concession, same as airport taxis are always dear.

Good idea (except that "trustworthy Dominican" is an oxymoron). If you draw a blank I know a guy who will quote you a price way below the AI taxis. His car is a bit of a heap, but that is to your advantage. If the locals see you arrive in a smart new vehicle you will be targeted as rich newbies.The "oxymoron comment". LMAO. Sad. But I have no problem believing it is true.

Thanks guys, for all the great advice. A couple of things:

My buddies are definitely not celibate but, Sosoua has garnered a bit of a reputation even among non-mongers and I would prefer some knucklehead back home didn't start yacking about what goes on there at the wrong time / place. Staying in Playa Dorada makes the trip a bit safer since most people are not that familiar with DR geography.

I do realize that having any type of sex on the Playa Dorada beach is a no-no but, thought there might be a massage shack or 2 in the general area that was also a suck shack.

A trip to Sosoua and Passions is definitely on the agenda.

Don't mind the walk to FOD (or what I antcipate the walk to be) and that may be my best bet on a daily basis at least. Sounds like a short term room would get the job done.

RE: Going into PP for an afternoon. We are fairly presentable and one of our party speaks fluent spanish. I have tried Pimsleur and may know enough Spanish now to get myself into trouble. But, I am still a bit confused regarding the availability of these legendary Cabanas and how they are just randomly located around the countryside. So, if we identify a semi or non pro in Puerto Plata- what are the chances they would want to use a Cabana?

One of my travelling mates reminded me of 2 Questions. 1. Where is a good place to exchange US$ for Pesos and 2. Where to get Viagra or Cialis around Playa Dorada?

Manny51
02-17-13, 20:16
I have been thinking of visiting the Puerto Plata area in the next few weeks, but plane tickets to POP are ridiculously expensive. Tickets for the northeast to POP seem to be hovering between $800-900. I don't want to, but I may have to end up using frequent flyer miles.

Any frequent PP visitors have good tips on saving money on plane tickets?

Thanks in advance!

James Neutron
02-17-13, 20:22
Especially those serving an AI. They pay a lot to get the concession, same as airport taxis are always dear.

Good idea (except that "trustworthy Dominican" is an oxymoron). If you draw a blank I know a guy who will quote you a price way below the AI taxis. His car is a bit of a heap, but that is to your advantage. If the locals see you arrive in a smart new vehicle you will be targeted as rich newbies.My apologies if this is a duplicate but, I don't think my last response made it due to a server timeout.

The oxymoron comment is hilarious. Sad. But I have no problem believing it's true.

I greatly appreciate all the expert advice and offer for additional help (Charles) I do not have PM privileges right now but, will likely bite the bullet soon and be in touch.

A couple of clarifying comments:

My friends are not celibate but, Sosoua has ganered itself a reputation as a sex tourist destination and I did not want some knucklehead back home backslapping me and laughing at the wrong time / place. So Playa Dorada was the best alternative for our "golf" (among other things) vacation. When presented with a gorgeous and willing Chica, I have no doubt they will do what nature intended as that has proved the case in the past.

We are fairly presentable and might consider heading into PP for an afternoon and look around for semi / non pros. My concern is we have no idea where to go and don't want to insult the local police chief's daughter with a lewd comment. Also, since we are staying at an AI, taking a chica back would be an issue and I thought I read that the semi-non pros get a little put off if asked to go to one of those legendary Cabanas that seem to litter the country side in the DR. One of our party does speak fluent spanish and I have taken some of the Pimsleur courses. Probably know just enough to get into trouble.

A trip to Sosoua Beach and Passions is definitely on the to do list. I appreciate the advice regarding taxis / cars etc.

I am more than willing to make the 10-15 minute walk to FOD for some daytime fun and will do so. I recently talked to a friend who stayed at the Barcelo recently and he told me that on the last day while his wife was packing a good looking chica came up and offered him a massage and BJ. She said $100 but, he declined for obvious reasons. That encounter was the reason for my question regarding suck shacks on or near the Playa Dorada Beach.

Since there is such little info regarding Playa Dorada and the monger scene, I did have 3 more quick questions. 1. Where is a good place to exchange money 2. Buy cigars 3. Buy Viagra / Cialis in the area.

As always, thanks for the assistance.

Jimmy

Buscemi
02-17-13, 20:35
I have been thinking of visiting the Puerto Plata area in the next few weeks, but plane tickets to POP are ridiculously expensive. Tickets for the northeast to POP seem to be hovering between $800-900. I don't want to, but I may have to end up using frequent flyer miles.

Any frequent PP visitors have good tips on saving money on plane tickets?

Thanks in advance!Manny, I am a little confused here, you are able to visit Oxygen Resort and pay upwards of $650 / night and an extra $300 for a RT plane ticket is busting the bank for you?

Try flying in or out of STI to save the $300, and take Caribe Tours for RD200 to Puerto Plata or Sosua.

Streetlooker
02-17-13, 20:50
I have been thinking of visiting the Puerto Plata area in the next few weeks, but plane tickets to POP are ridiculously expensive. Tickets for the northeast to POP seem to be hovering between $800-900. I don't want to, but I may have to end up using frequent flyer miles.

Any frequent PP visitors have good tips on saving money on plane tickets?

Thanks in advance!Seems the plane tickets are up across the board to all destinations due to inflation I guess. I usually get Philippines or Thailand for $1200. 00 or so now $1500+ most travel sights which is a few hundred more then I want to pay. $800-$900 for DR is also a few hundred more then I have seen in recent past. Deals are still there for long layover flights but those cost you also cause you might have to swing a hotel stay and extra meals at high priced airport restaurants. I hope it gets better soon I need a mongering trip soon

Manny51
02-17-13, 21:20
Manny, I am a little confused here, you are able to visit Oxygen Resort and pay upwards of $650 / night and an extra $300 for a RT plane ticket is busting the bank for you?

Try flying in or out of STI to save the $300, and take Caribe Tours for RD200 to Puerto Plata or Sosua.Thanks for your suggestion for saving money.

But I'm getting a little annoyed with people harping on my defense of Oxygen and your insinuation that I am some kind of arrogant rich guy.

I don't mind paying a little more to another party, whatever they are, if they are providing a unique and personalized service. Have you ever even been to Oxygen?

The owner has basically bought a small hotel, and a nice one, and runs it himself from the ground up. Its not just a bar with some seedy stinky rooms in the back. Maid services, the cook, cleaning the pool, free wifi everywhere and satellite TV, running a restaurant, paying to meet whatever govt health / safety regulations there are, etc. He is one guy running a small business. He doesn't have the Hilton corp. backing him up or the advantage of economies of scale. He vetts the women there in many ways, and somehow gets them to provide excellent service. It is a small business, and if you have ever run a small business then maybe you'd think differently. When I met him, I was actually impressed with how he took a chance and made his business dream a reality.

Look, I understand that there is a basement budget crowd out there. But I also know that lots of these guys complain about the price of a beer going up from $2 to $2. 25. These same guys who insist on bargaining a date as low as she will go, then complain when she doesn't treat them like the man of their dreams.

The owner's business idea was that of a slightly upscale place with certain privacy and protection advantages in place. Although as a customer, I think that his price point was sometimes a little too high, I applaud his business idea, and don't know the details of his running costs, so I let it slide. And actually if you break it down, the total costs are no more expensive than visiting FKK's in Germany.

I don't begrudge those in our community on a budget. But paying $900 versus $500 for a ride on the same crappy plane made in the 1970's is stupid. Prices of gas have actually been going down recently. To me, that is NOT money well spent. I'm not rich, but I do well enough to splurge once in a while if I think its worth it and I am getting something unique. So before I start getting responses of "well I'm poor so excuse me," just give it a rest.

If he is closing shop and lowering prices so that he can go out with a bang, then dude, I am there.

Manizales911
02-17-13, 22:09
I have been thinking of visiting the Puerto Plata area in the next few weeks, but plane tickets to POP are ridiculously expensive. Tickets for the northeast to POP seem to be hovering between $800-900. I don't want to, but I may have to end up using frequent flyer miles.

Any frequent PP visitors have good tips on saving money on plane tickets?

Thanks in advance!It is "high season" March-April combined with spring break. Go next week or you are screwed until May, there is no magic wand, everybody pays big bucks during this time. If you use FF miles they will charge you double the miles too.

GentleLapper
02-17-13, 22:23
That's what most people do. Returning guests, who already know they like the place, may book a longer stay in advance to negotiate a discount, but first-timers are ill-advised to do that in case they aren't happy there.

We would be interested to know why you didn't like Blackbeards. It could have a bearing on whether you will like Field of Dreams. For example, if you said it was too far to walk to the beach at Blackbeards then you won't like Field of Dreams. (OK, that was a silly example but I don't want to speculate on other and more likely reasons).

I would say so. FOD has one or two premium rate rooms as well. Not sure if Blackbeards does? The standard rooms are about the same. Because FoD is quieter, guests can probably negotiate a good discount for longer stays in the off season, but that is not now.

Why don't you check prices on their respective websites.Hi Charles,

I read thru FOD's website, & sent them email as far as doing a room only and "pay and Go"

It's not that I didn't like BB, but I had a few issues with the girls.

I went for 2days & 2nites:

ISSUE#1. I desired to go with a girl overnite and after getting her to my room, there was a misunderstanding that she thought she was doing a short stay. I had that issue resolved with one of the mamasans. But later on. Early in the morning she left anyway. I paid her for the short stay rate. I was a little disappointed, but what the fuck, not a big deal.

I had breakfast the following day with a regular, & told him the tale. He felt that I should report the incident to the management. He was concerned that the girl was new, and that management needs to set her straight so she doesn't pull the same shit on another guest.

So I told mamasans what happened, and I later met John and the day staff. They were very professional about it and were behind me all the way.

They don't tolerate this sort of thing, and offered restitution. I declined, because again I didn't feel it was a big deal.

So I went on with day two, and had a good time.

When it came time for the change of shift. 6:00pm, The mamasans, all the day girls and the arriving night girls had a pow wow about a girl leaving a guest before the appointed time. There were about 35 of them! I was like "shit! I caused this?"

I think most of the girls knew who the guy was, and maybe I was a little paranoid, but I was getting some bad looks from the girls.

ISSUE #2; Anyway I had dinner, and later picked out two girls to do an overnight. They were hot, and started out pretty good in the beginning of our session. But half way thru, they decided to roll over, pull the sheets over themselves and go to sleep. I didn't even pop yet!

I don't know if the Town Hall Meeting had a bearing on this? LOL!

It wasn't a pleasant night, and the following morning one of the girls had a bad attitude, the other girl was ok and got the job done.

I talked to one of the girls was I was displeased with their behavior, but it was what it was.

I packed my bags, paid the tab, and left not so good comments on the review card.

I called John the next day to withdraw my hasty comments, he listened, but then said he heard an entirely different story.

"Well of you did. John". He then told me to take my business elsewhere, and I am banned from ever returning to BB.

Banned from a working girl house? I never expected that. LOL!

I booked a second trip two months later to Tropical Adult Vacations in Boca Chica and had a great time. TAV is awsome!

The only drawback about travel to Boca Chica is the 3 1/2 flight time fro JFK to SDQ. JFK to POP isd only a little over 2hrs. I hate staying on a plane, it sucks. It seems that this sort of thing creates a lot of anticipation, and suspense, and every minute on plane feels like an hour!

So that's why I'm interested in returning to Puerta Plata or Sosua for my third trip. I liked the way BB operates, so I'm seeking other resorts that were similiar. And in the local vacinity of POP.

Lapper

Chris Long
02-17-13, 23:03
Hi Charles,

I read thru FOD's website, & sent them email as far as doing a room only and "pay and Go"

It's not that I didn't like BB, but I had a few issues with the girls.

I went for 2days & 2nites:

ISSUE#1. I desired to go with a girl overnite and after getting her to my room, there was a misunderstanding that she thought she was doing a short stay. I had that issue resolved with one of the mamasans. But later on. Early in the morning she left anyway. I paid her for the short stay rate. I was a little disappointed, but what the fuck, not a big deal.

I had breakfast the following day with a regular, & told him the tale. He felt that I should report the incident to the management. He was concerned that the girl was new, and that management needs to set her straight so she doesn't pull the same shit on another guest.

So I told mamasans what happened, and I later met John and the day staff. They were very professional about it and were behind me all the way.

They don't tolerate this sort of thing, and offered restitution. I declined, because again I didn't feel it was a big deal.

So I went on with day two, and had a good time.

When it came time for the change of shift. 6:00pm, The mamasans, all the day girls and the arriving night girls had a pow wow about a girl leaving a guest before the appointed time. There were about 35 of them! I was like "shit! I caused this?"

I think most of the girls knew who the guy was, and maybe I was a little paranoid, but I was getting some bad looks from the girls.

ISSUE #2; Anyway I had dinner, and later picked out two girls to do an overnight. They were hot, and started out pretty good in the beginning of our session. But half way thru, they decided to roll over, pull the sheets over themselves and go to sleep. I didn't even pop yet!

I don't know if the Town Hall Meeting had a bearing on this? LOL!

It wasn't a pleasant night, and the following morning one of the girls had a bad attitude, the other girl was ok and got the job done.

I talked to one of the girls was I was displeased with their behavior, but it was what it was.

I packed my bags, paid the tab, and left not so good comments on the review card.

I called John the next day to withdraw my hasty comments, he listened, but then said he heard an entirely different story.

"Well of you did. John". He then told me to take my business elsewhere, and I am banned from ever returning to BB.

Banned from a working girl house? I never expected that. LOL!

I booked a second trip two months later to Tropical Adult Vacations in Boca Chica and had a great time. TAV is awsome!

The only drawback about travel to Boca Chica is the 3 1/2 flight time fro JFK to SDQ. JFK to POP isd only a little over 2hrs. I hate staying on a plane, it sucks. It seems that this sort of thing creates a lot of anticipation, and suspense, and every minute on plane feels like an hour!

So that's why I'm interested in returning to Puerta Plata or Sosua for my third trip. I liked the way BB operates, so I'm seeking other resorts that were similiar. And in the local vacinity of POP.

LapperThis story sounds familure. I think I was staying there when this happened or if not then a very similar incident happened with another guest while I was staying there.

Was hanging outside one night with a couple other guys around 1 am or so when a chica came out of a room and left, about 15 minutes later a guy came out looking for her but she was gone. The next day there was a big pow wow meeting with momason and all the chicas and the chica that left early was sent home for the day. A night or so later we all wifed up with a chica and had a little party in one of the rooms, the guy who had the chica leave early wifed up with two chicas for the night. Early the next morning I heard doors slamming and yelling from the guy who had two chicas and could hear both chicas walk past my door. He ended up leaving later that day and was very unhappy. Was that you? What time frame did this happen, maybe we met when you were there.

Chris

GentleLapper
02-18-13, 02:54
This story sounds familure. I think I was staying there when this happened or if not then a very similar incident happened with another guest while I was staying there.

Was hanging outside one night with a couple other guys around 1 am or so when a chica came out of a room and left, about 15 minutes later a guy came out looking for her but she was gone. The next day there was a big pow wow meeting with momason and all the chicas and the chica that left early was sent home for the day. A night or so later we all wifed up with a chica and had a little party in one of the rooms, the guy who had the chica leave early wifed up with two chicas for the night. Early the next morning I heard doors slamming and yelling from the guy who had two chicas and could hear both chicas walk past my door. He ended up leaving later that day and was very unhappy. Was that you? What time frame did this happen, maybe we met when you were there.

ChrisJune,

Your'e either one of the bro's from the big apple or the nice man from from down south where they drill for oil, yes. The party was pretty cool. You're not a bad dancer BTW. I would take a guess, that you're the man from oil country.

Charles Pooter
02-18-13, 16:38
The only drawback about travel to Boca Chica is the 3 1/2 flight time fro JFK to SDQ. JFK to POP isd only a little over 2hrs.Hey, guys, is this really correct? I cannot think of any reason why flying to SDQ should take more than an extra 15/20 minutes. Are there are factors involved?

Mr Enternational
02-18-13, 16:58
Hey, guys, is this really correct? I cannot think of any reason why flying to SDQ should take more than an extra 15/20 minutes. Are there are factors involved?You are correct CP. Flight time from JFK to POP is 3 hours 3 minutes, while JFK to SDQ is 3 hours 18 minutes.

GentleLapper
02-18-13, 18:44
You are correct CP. Flight time from JFK to POP is 3 hours 3 minutes, while JFK to SDQ is 3 hours 18 minutes.Hi Mr. E,

I only flew JFK to POP once, but I do remember the flight time was only a about 2 1/2hrs, both ways, but no where close to three as they say.

Perhaps the pilots were peddling a little faster than usual or something to do with the jet streams. I guess I was lucky, Sometimes this does happen.

I remembered my flight back from SDQ to JFK was only 2 hr 43mins. We were delayed at SDQ, so they stepped on the gas a little on the way home.

In any event, I prefer to fly to POP if I can. Still looking for the right resort in that vicinity though.

Lapper.

Chris Long
02-19-13, 01:22
June,

Your'e either one of the bro's from the big apple or the nice man from from down south where they drill for oil, yes. The party was pretty cool. You're not a bad dancer BTW. I would take a guess, that you're the man from oil country.Good guess yes it was in June I was the Texan hanging with the bros from NYC. We were the ones that told you to go to management the next day. It was a great party that night things got a little wild and crazy. Sorry to hear everything didn't work out for you. You don't really need BB or FOD you should just go to Sosua check into Rockys (I know I said it) and pick up chicas along the strip. BB and FOD are nice but personally I prefer the variety and vibe of Sosua to either of those places.

Good to hear from you, hope everything works out for you in the future.

Chris

IM Punter
02-19-13, 04:13
Last year about this time, I spent a couple of weeks in Philippines and managed to have a few interesting times with some local women. You can read about them in my posts in the Makati and Manila forums around January, February last year. The good news is, that this year, at the beginning of April, I am going to Puerto Plata in the Dominican for a couple of weeks. The bad news, is that I am going with my occasional girlfriend. In spite of this, I'the like to be able to have a couple of clandestine hookups with some local women, which means some ingenuity on my part. We'll be staying at the be-live on Playa Dorado. At most, I'the be able to duck out for 2 or 3 hours at a time, and my hookups would have be outside of my hotel, but reasonably close by.

Mission Impossible? I hope not. Although I am a firm believer in RTFM, I haven't found any posts that might help me find solve my particular quest, that is, find a ST girl, preferably amateur, for a tryst in the morning, afternoon or early evening, at a location other than my hotel.

Any tips would be extremely welcome. I will be sure to report back on my success or failure (hopefully not). I'd also be pleased to answer any questions about my limited experience in the Philippines.

For those that might criticise me for cheating on my gf while on vacation, please know, I get along with her very well, in most areas except for sex. Because of circumstances beyond her control, sex is unpleasant for her, so I try not to inflict it that often, which leaves me frequently looking for some outside fun, something that's pretty hard to find in my neck of the north woods.

GentleLapper
02-19-13, 04:50
Good guess yes it was in June I was the Texan hanging with the bros from NYC. We were the ones that told you to go to management the next day. It was a great party that night things got a little wild and crazy. Sorry to hear everything didn't work out for you. You don't really need BB or FOD you should just go to Sosua check into Rockys (I know I said it) and pick up chicas along the strip. BB and FOD are nice but personally I prefer the variety and vibe of Sosua to either of those places.

Good to hear from you, hope everything works out for you in the future.

ChrisHey Chris,

Yeah I thought it was you. It's good to hear from you too.

I've been hearing a lot about Sosua lately. A friend of mine is going to rent a place there soon.

Can you tell me a little more about Rocky's?

I have been checking out FOD. Seems to be nicer than BB.

If you've been to FOD and I know you've been to BB, which do you like better?

BTW, don't I stiill owe you for lending me 3 condoms? LOL!

See ya!

Lapper

Second Coming
02-19-13, 11:00
Last year about this time, I spent a couple of weeks in Philippines and managed to have a few interesting times with some local women. You can read about them in my posts in the Makati and Manila forums around January, February last year. The good news is, that this year, at the beginning of April, I am going to Puerto Plata in the Dominican for a couple of weeks. The bad news, is that I am going with my occasional girlfriend. In spite of this, I'the like to be able to have a couple of clandestine hookups with some local women, which means some ingenuity on my part. We'll be staying at the be-live on Playa Dorado. At most, I'the be able to duck out for 2 or 3 hours at a time, and my hookups would have be outside of my hotel, but reasonably close by.

Mission Impossible? I hope not. Although I am a firm believer in RTFM, I haven't found any posts that might help me find solve my particular quest, that is, find a ST girl, preferably amateur, for a tryst in the morning, afternoon or early evening, at a location other than my hotel.FOD is across the street from Playa Dorada. It is walkable. No amateurs there but there are always girls available atFOD.

Charles Pooter
02-19-13, 14:26
I'd like to be able to have a couple of clandestine hookups with some local women, which means some ingenuity on my part. We'll be staying at the be-live on Playa Dorado. At most, I'the be able to duck out for 2 or 3 hours at a time, and my hookups would have be outside of my hotel, but reasonably close by.You are fortunate that Field of Dreams is only 15 minutes slow and safe walk from your hotel. They have putas and short-time rooms available.

It is quite possible to pick up non working girls in Puerto Plata but you will struggle to do so within a three-hour window. You might go to the Malecon and find a semi-puta (best chance would be a haitiana) or you might go there four days running and strike out. Not many non working girls would be willing to go with someone they just met for a quicky. If you are young, good-looking, and speak Spanish (or French for haitianas) you might just get lucky but I think you don't want to waste your precious holiday time chasing long-shots.

Frannie
02-19-13, 21:29
You are fortunate that Field of Dreams is only 15 minutes slow and safe walk from your hotel. They have putas and short-time rooms available.Don't agree. I think it would be a half hour's brisk walk in hot weather from Be Live along a highway with fast moving traffic and no sidewalk. I would take a taxi or moto. Be Live is at Costa Dorada not at Playa Dorada.

I would agree it would be hard to find an amateur. I would go to Field of Dreams and ask for a companion who needs more experience.

GentleLapper
02-19-13, 22:15
You are fortunate that Field of Dreams is only 15 minutes slow and safe walk from your hotel. They have putas and short-time rooms available.

It is quite possible to pick up non working girls in Puerto Plata but you will struggle to do so within a three-hour window. You might go to the Malecon and find a semi-puta (best chance would be a haitiana) or you might go there four days running and strike out. Not many non working girls would be willing to go with someone they just met for a quicky. If you are young, good-looking, and speak Spanish (or French for haitianas) you might just get lucky but I think you don't want to waste your precious holiday time chasing long-shots.Hello Mr. Pooter,

I was wondering if you had any comments about my BB report, and what advise you may have regarding FOD, and how they are compared to BB.

So far Chris Long did not really recommend neither. Highly recommended Rocky's and get girls from the strip.

BTW I did visit Rocky's website. Not too shabby. What kind of rooms can one expect for 27 clams a night?

Lapper

Hillbilly69
02-19-13, 23:19
Last year about this time, I spent a couple of weeks in Philippines and managed to have a few interesting times with some local women. You can read about them in my posts in the Makati and Manila forums around January, February last year. The good news is, that this year, at the beginning of April, I am going to Puerto Plata in the Dominican for a couple of weeks. The bad news, is that I am going with my occasional girlfriend. In spite of this, I'the like to be able to have a couple of clandestine hookups with some local women, which means some ingenuity on my part. We'll be staying at the be-live on Playa Dorado. At most, I'the be able to duck out for 2 or 3 hours at a time, and my hookups would have be outside of my hotel, but reasonably close by.

Mission Impossible? I hope not. Although I am a firm believer in RTFM, I haven't found any posts that might help me find solve my particular quest, that is, find a ST girl, preferably amateur, for a tryst in the morning, afternoon or early evening, at a location other than my hotel.

Any tips would be extremely welcome. I will be sure to report back on my success or failure (hopefully not). I'd also be pleased to answer any questions about my limited experience in the Philippines.I made you a map, Cristols (best looking girls most expensive of the 3) is about a mile, Fod is 2 miles, Blackbeards (2nd best looking girls) pronounced Barbra Negra is 4 miles all distances are the way the crow flies. Cristols I have been there as early as 10:30 am but late afternoon sometime they should be open for a look see like 4ish. Blackbeards is 20 bucks to take them off site plus the girl and Cabana.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004ce00f97ab01ed385b

Charles Pooter
02-19-13, 23:33
Be Live is at Costa Dorada not at Playa Dorada.I know the Be Live Marien which is at Costa Dorada but he posted Playa Dorada so I assumed they had taken over another hotel there. Lord knows, the place is a ghost town so there must be a lot of hotels for sale.

Sorry to have posted misleading info. If at Costa Dorada he is really fucked. He will need to take taxis everywhere and that gets really expensive from AIs.

Thanks to Hillybilly for the map!

Charles Pooter
02-20-13, 00:46
I made you a map, Cristols (best looking girls most expensive of the 3) is about a mile, Fod is 2 miles, Blackbeards (2nd best looking girls) pronounced Barbra Negra is 4 miles all distances are the way the crow flies. Cristols I have been there as early as 10:30 am but late afternoon sometime they should be open for a look see like 4ish. Blackbeards is 20 bucks to take them off site plus the girl and Cabana.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004ce00f97ab01ed385bDon't disagree with any of that, but I still think Field of Dreams will be his best bet for the following reasons:

1) He is interested in amateur girls. While all the chicas at Field of Dreams are working girls, they are generally more "amateurish" than those at Barba Negra. See Second Coming's recent post here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?504-Puerto-Plata&p=1386440&viewfull=1#post1386440

Not sure if they are inferior in looks on average to Barba Negra girls, though there is a lot more choice at Barba Negra.

2) While Barba Negra do rent rooms short-time if vacant, it is much more accepted at Field of Dreams where there is almost certain to be a room free. He only has a brief window of time to get the job done so he wouldn't want to go to Barba Negra and find there is no room free. He would then need to go to a cabana and, being a complete newbie (who apparently doesn't even know which resort he has booked into) he might not be comfortable with that. This guy will be a sitting duck for rip-offs. Everyone will be charging him more and then adding their "commission" on top. A return taxi trip to Barba Negra, pay a salida, taxi to a cabana, pay the chica, could add up to a real expensive and hurried fuck, whereas he could take a taxi, motoconcho or guagua to Field of Dreams and know exactly what his outlay will be before he even starts. Also the management at Field of Dreams are more friendly and likely to hold his hand if he doesn't speak Spanish.

3) Cristals is very near but the chicas are expensive and not much choice in the daytime. He could do them on site there but it is all pretty squalid, whereas Barba Negra, and even more Field of Dreams, are pleasant environments where he won't feel he needs to take three showers in quick succession afterwards.

Very helpful map, by the way.

Hillbilly69
02-20-13, 00:54
Don't disagree with any of that, but I still think Field of Dreams will be his best bet for the following reasons:

1) He is interested in amateur girls. While all the chicas at Field of Dreams are working girls, they are generally more "amateurish" than those at Barba Negra. See Second Coming's recent post here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?504-Puerto-Plata&p=1386440&viewfull=1#post1386440

Not sure if they are inferior in looks on average to Barba Negra girls, though there is a lot more choice at Barba Negra.

2) While Barba Negra do rent rooms short-time if vacant, it is much more accepted at Field of Dreams where there is almost certain to be a room free. He only has a brief window of time to get the job done so he wouldn't want to go to Barba Negra and find there is no room free. He would then need to go to a cabana and, being a complete newbie (who apparently doesn't even know which resort he has booked into) he might not be comfortable with that. This guy will be a sitting duck for rip-offs. Everyone will be charging him more and then adding their "commission" on top. A return taxi trip to Barba Negra, pay a salida, taxi to a cabana, pay the chica, could add up to a real expensive and hurried fuck, whereas he could take a taxi, motoconcho or guagua to Field of Dreams and know exactly what his outlay will be before he even starts. Also the management at Field of Dreams are more friendly and likely to hold his hand if he doesn't speak Spanish.

3) Cristals is very near but the chicas are expensive and not much choice in the daytime. He could do them on site there but it is all pretty squalid, whereas Barba Negra, and even more Field of Dreams, are pleasant environments where he won't feel he needs to take three showers in quick succession afterwards.

Very helpful map, by the way.I don't argue with any of that but he might as well get out and see different places, maybe even slip away to Sosua and visit Passions. He may return someday solo, he would get a feel for where he would want to stay on later visits.

Charles Pooter
02-20-13, 01:07
Hello Mr. Pooter,

I was wondering if you had any comments about my BB report, and what advise you may have regarding FOD, and how they are compared to BB.

So far Chris Long did not really recommend neither. Highly recommended Rocky's and get girls from the strip.

BTW I did visit Rocky's website. Not too shabby. What kind of rooms can one expect for 27 clams a night?

LapperNot sure which country uses "clams" as currency. Do you come from Madagascar?

If that means US dollars, the rooms in Rocky's Bar are pretty basic. Sort of place backpackers stay. The owner does offer a variety of other properties in Sosua, and there are several other recommendable hotels from US$40 to US$80. None of them are perfect and which guys choose depend on their priorities and what is more important to them.

Picking up chicas in Sosua is not rocket science, but newbies can come unstuck and fall for scams and rip-offs. If you had trouble with controlling the chicas in Barba Negra you could struggle in Sosua. You will save a bit on prices over Barba Negra or Field of Dreams, but a couple of bad experiences and you will lose more than you save overall. Unlike Barba Negra or Field of Dreams or Passions there is no management to complain to, and if you push your luck you could experience something unpleasant. More choice in Sosua, of course, and the beach is fun in the afternoons.

I find Field of Dreams more relaxed and friendlier than Barba Negra but there are far fewer to choose from and they are not as sexily dressed and made up. (To me that is a bonus, but many guys like the professional puta look).

For the safest option and guaranteed attractive chicas, stay in Sosua and patronize Passions. Still not 100% guaranteed satisfaction (we are dealing with human beings in a sleazy business) but as near as you will get. Expensive though, and that way of doing business is not to my taste, but each to his own.

Charles Pooter
02-20-13, 01:14
. maybe even slip away to Sosua and visit Passions.Half hour each way and an hour on site, so he could do it within two hours (and a bit). For myself I would hate to be that rushed. Not my idea of a good time.

Charles Pooter
02-20-13, 01:19
For those that might criticise me for cheating on my gf while on vacation, please know, I get along with her very well, in most areas except for sex. Because of circumstances beyond her control, sex is unpleasant for her, so I try not to inflict it that often, which leaves me frequently looking for some outside fun.This apologia was not necessary. Half the gringo mongers in the DR (and 95% of the Dominican mongers) are cheating on their wives or regular girlfriends. No-one here would criticize you but you obviously don't feel 100% comfortable with the idea yourself or you wouldn't have mentioned it.

Chris Long
02-20-13, 03:30
Hey Chris,

Yeah I thought it was you. It's good to hear from you too.

I've been hearing a lot about Sosua lately. A friend of mine is going to rent a place there soon.

Can you tell me a little more about Rocky's?

I have been checking out FOD. Seems to be nicer than BB.

If you've been to FOD and I know you've been to BB, which do you like better?

BTW, don't I stiill owe you for lending me 3 condoms? LOL!

See ya!

LapperYou have a good memory, I remember giving you the condoms but I couldn't remember how many they were. If you liked BB accept for the mishap that happened than you will probably like FOD because it is pretty much the same type of set up for the most part. I believe the rooms are a little cheaper and the transportation from the airport is a little cheaper as well, but I noticed the food menu was little more than BB, and there's no Yenneys or beach within walking distance. I've never stayed at FOD but have gone there a couple different times in the afternoon to check it out and session with a girl each time I was there. To me FOD and BB are pretty similar, there may be a few slight differences here and there and depending upon an individual's taste some may prefer one over the other, but to me they were basically the same type of program. Chicas available in house at a set price services are pretty much already established and there is someone to complain to if things don't go right. I've heard FOD has chicas staying there and they are available 24 hrs. Which to me is better, at BB you have to pick a chica for TLN by midnight or there will be no other options after that. So if you prefer the basic set up at BB then you will probably like FOD.

Sosua is freelance all of the girls there with the exception of passions passions-sosua. Com / and CMP Club www.cmp-club.de/ Are freelancers. Both Passions and CMP are working girl bars with set prices 2500 pesos for the hour. Accept for my last trip I always had great service from the girls at both of these places. On my last trip I picked a starfish with a BAD attitude, however after threatening to complain her attitude changed 180 degrees. With these two places there is someone to go to if things don't go well. In the rest of Sosua they are all freelancers and there is no one to complain to. For the most part I've always had a pretty good time with the freelancers in Sosua but I have read reports of things getting really bad in some cases. There are also a lot of Haitians available in Sosua. Prices very and you have to negotiate with the chica both price and service. On all of my previous trips I had no problem getting chicas for 1500 pesos for the hour and 3000 pesos for TLN However, on my last trip I noticed it getting harder and harder to get the chicas at this price most were wanting 2000 for the hour and 4000 for TLN and usually had to settle somewhere between the old price and the new asking price. I've always gotten DATY and BBBJ form all of my chicas in Sosua. There is a strip of open air bars that is about a block or two long and this is where you will find the chicas at night. During the day time there are freelancers along the beach. Personally I prefer Sosua over BB or FOD there is a certain vibe and excitement about cruising the strip and picking up chicas and there's fare more variety.

The $27 rooms at Rocky's are basic but not bad, (its an extra $10 if you want air-conditioning) I've stayed there a couple nights and it's not bad if you are on a budget. Rocky's also has other locations that are like a one bedroom apartment for the same price you would pay for a hotel room. There are many benefits as well as detriments to staying at Rocky's I won't go into all of them here but its basically not a bad deal for what you pay and you also get free transportation from the airport www.rockysbar.com/. Another place you may want to consider is the new garden. There are a few similarities to the New Garden and BB. NG is a good place to meet and hang out with fellow mongers who are staying there and there are freelancers who hang out in the NG www.hotelnewgarden.com.

I'm going to Santo Domingo this weekend but will be back in Sosua in both April and May. If you are interested in going at that time PM me and I will send you my dates and we can meet up there and I will show you around.

Chris

OldKool
02-20-13, 04:23
BB is the state of the art for casas on the North coast, FOD is the little sister. Girls and activity at BBs is better. FOD is trying to compete. Both have decent accomodations, food and set prices for the girls 1600 p-esos short term. It is shooting fish in a barrel. Not really my cup of tea. I like Sosua because of the selection and the day activities. All most every women you see is on the menu. For newbie BBs is a must but when you get your big boy pants come to Sosua.


You have a good memory, I remember giving you the condoms but I couldn't remember how many they were. If you liked BB accept for the mishap that happened than you will probably like FOD because it is pretty much the same type of set up for the most part. I believe the rooms are a little cheaper and the transportation from the airport is a little cheaper as well, but I noticed the food menu was little more than BB, and there's no Yenneys or beach within walking distance. I've never stayed at FOD but have gone there a couple different times in the afternoon to check it out and session with a girl each time I was there. To me FOD and BB are pretty similar, there may be a few slight differences here and there and depending upon an individual's taste some may prefer one over the other, but to me they were basically the same type of program. Chicas available in house at a set price services are pretty much already established and there is someone to complain to if things don't go right. I've heard FOD has chicas staying there and they are available 24 hrs. Which to me is better, at BB you have to pick a chica for TLN by midnight or there will be no other options after that. So if you prefer the basic set up at BB then you will probably like FOD.

Sosua is freelance all of the girls there with the exception of passions passions-sosua. Com / and CMP Club.

www.cmp-club.de/

Are freelancers. Both Passions and CMP are working girl bars with set prices 2500 pesos for the hour. Accept for my last trip I always had great service from the girls at both of these places. On my last trip I picked a starfish with a BAD attitude, however after threatening to complain her attitude changed 180 degrees. With these two places there is someone to go to if things don't go well. In the rest of Sosua they are all freelancers and there is no one to complain to. For the most part I've always had a pretty good time with the freelancers in Sosua but I have read reports of things getting really bad in some cases. There are also a lot of Haitians available in Sosua. Prices very and you have to negotiate with the chica both price and service. On all of my previous trips I had no problem getting chicas for 1500 pesos for the hour and 3000 pesos for TLN However, on my last trip I noticed it getting harder and harder to get the chicas at this price most were wanting 2000 for the hour and 4000 for TLN and usually had to settle somewhere between the old price and the new asking price. I've always gotten DATY and BBBJ form all of my chicas in Sosua. There is a strip of open air bars that is about a block or two long and this is where you will find the chicas at night. During the day time there are freelancers along the beach. Personally I prefer Sosua over BB or FOD there is a certain vibe and excitement about cruising the strip and picking up chicas and there's fare more variety.

The $27 rooms at Rocky's are basic but not bad, (its an extra $10 if you want air-conditioning) I've stayed there a couple nights and it's not bad if you are on a budget. Rocky's also has other locations that are like a one bedroom apartment for the same price you would pay for a hotel room. There are many benefits as well as detriments to staying at Rocky's I won't go into all of them here but its basically not a bad deal for what you pay and you also get free transportation from the airport.

www.rockysbar.com/.

Another place you may want to consider is the new garden. There are a few similarities to the New Garden and BB. NG is a good place to meet and hang out with fellow mongers who are staying there and there are freelancers who hang out in the NG.

www.hotelnewgarden.com.

I'm going to Santo Domingo this weekend but will be back in Sosua in both April and May. If you are interested in going at that time PM me and I will send you my dates and we can meet up there and I will show you around.

Chris

GentleLapper
02-20-13, 05:59
You have a good memory, I remember giving you the condoms but I couldn't remember how many they were. If you liked BB accept for the mishap that happened than you will probably like FOD because it is pretty much the same type of set up for the most part. I believe the rooms are a little cheaper and the transportation from the airport is a little cheaper as well, but I noticed the food menu was little more than BB, and there's no Yenneys or beach within walking distance. I've never stayed at FOD but have gone there a couple different times in the afternoon to check it out and session with a girl each time I was there. To me FOD and BB are pretty similar, there may be a few slight differences here and there and depending upon an individual's taste some may prefer one over the other, but to me they were basically the same type of program. Chicas available in house at a set price services are pretty much already established and there is someone to complain to if things don't go right. I've heard FOD has chicas staying there and they are available 24 hrs. Which to me is better, at BB you have to pick a chica for TLN by midnight or there will be no other options after that. So if you prefer the basic set up at BB then you will probably like FOD.

Sosua is freelance all of the girls there with the exception of passions passions-sosua. Com / and CMP Club.

www.cmp-club.de/

Are freelancers. Both Passions and CMP are working girl bars with set prices 2500 pesos for the hour. Accept for my last trip I always had great service from the girls at both of these places. On my last trip I picked a starfish with a BAD attitude, however after threatening to complain her attitude changed 180 degrees. With these two places there is someone to go to if things don't go well. In the rest of Sosua they are all freelancers and there is no one to complain to. For the most part I've always had a pretty good time with the freelancers in Sosua but I have read reports of things getting really bad in some cases. There are also a lot of Haitians available in Sosua. Prices very and you have to negotiate with the chica both price and service. On all of my previous trips I had no problem getting chicas for 1500 pesos for the hour and 3000 pesos for TLN However, on my last trip I noticed it getting harder and harder to get the chicas at this price most were wanting 2000 for the hour and 4000 for TLN and usually had to settle somewhere between the old price and the new asking price. I've always gotten DATY and BBBJ form all of my chicas in Sosua. There is a strip of open air bars that is about a block or two long and this is where you will find the chicas at night. During the day time there are freelancers along the beach. Personally I prefer Sosua over BB or FOD there is a certain vibe and excitement about cruising the strip and picking up chicas and there's fare more variety.

The $27 rooms at Rocky's are basic but not bad, (its an extra $10 if you want air-conditioning) I've stayed there a couple nights and it's not bad if you are on a budget. Rocky's also has other locations that are like a one bedroom apartment for the same price you would pay for a hotel room. There are many benefits as well as detriments to staying at Rocky's I won't go into all of them here but its basically not a bad deal for what you pay and you also get free transportation from the airport.

www.rockysbar.com/.

Another place you may want to consider is the new garden. There are a few similarities to the New Garden and BB. NG is a good place to meet and hang out with fellow mongers who are staying there and there are freelancers who hang out in the NG.

www.hotelnewgarden.com.

I'm going to Santo Domingo this weekend but will be back in Sosua in both April and May. If you are interested in going at that time PM me and I will send you my dates and we can meet up there and I will show you around.

ChrisHey Chris,

Thanks foir the input, I will PM you. Sounds like Sosua is the best choice, but I would prefer to go with someone that know the ways of things.

BTW: you gave me a link of (3) rubbers. I'll pay you back when we meet.

GentleLapper
02-20-13, 07:53
Not sure which country uses "clams" as currency. Do you come from Madagascar?

If that means US dollars, the rooms in Rocky's Bar are pretty basic. Sort of place backpackers stay. The owner does offer a variety of other properties in Sosua, and there are several other recommendable hotels from US$40 to US$80. None of them are perfect and which guys choose depend on their priorities and what is more important to them.

Picking up chicas in Sosua is not rocket science, but newbies can come unstuck and fall for scams and rip-offs. If you had trouble with controlling the chicas in Barba Negra you could struggle in Sosua. You will save a bit on prices over Barba Negra or Field of Dreams, but a couple of bad experiences and you will lose more than you save overall. Unlike Barba Negra or Field of Dreams or Passions there is no management to complain to, and if you push your luck you could experience something unpleasant. More choice in Sosua, of course, and the beach is fun in the afternoons.

I find Field of Dreams more relaxed and friendlier than Barba Negra but there are far fewer to choose from and they are not as sexily dressed and made up. (To me that is a bonus, but many guys like the professional puta look).

For the safest option and guaranteed attractive chicas, stay in Sosua and patronize Passions. Still not 100% guaranteed satisfaction (we are dealing with human beings in a sleazy business) but as near as you will get. Expensive though, and that way of doing business is not to my taste, but each to his own.LOL!"Clams" was a slang that was used for dollars back in the thirties up to the seventies if memory serves. There are others such as; Dough, bread, beans, Molaah, smack-a-roos, bucks, notes, etc.

Anyway I'll use USD or Pesos whenever I post here.

Your post actually discouraged me a bit. I've been to DR twice so far, and I do not feel ready to go for freelancers in Sosua.

BTW: I was just PM'ed from someone who read my report regarding BB, and He stated that him and his buddies had a similiar experience like I did at BB's. I had a hunch there would be others.

So I don't blame myself for what happened to me at BB. Bad timing, and a few bad apples I guess.

I went to TAV in Boca Chica, which is probably the best for any newbie. I highly recommend them. It's all inclusive, included activities, beachfront, the management gets you anything you need, the girls are sweet, and they set the benchmark when it comes to GFE.

But you really don't get much street education when there, because you have everything you need on the resort.

So I'm still a novice as I was when I left BB.

I read your post very seriously, and I have come to the conclusion that I will not go to the streets of Sosua by myself. To partner up with someone who has aced the area is my best bet.

Otherwise, Passions or FOD here I cum.

Thanks Charles.

Isc55
02-20-13, 23:07
May 2012 : stayed at BB.

Oct 2012 : stayed at FOD.

Feb 2013 : stayed at BB.

I had a good time at FOD and probably I will come there again in the future, but, in my opinion, today BB is better than FOD in everything : the resort by itself, the organization and the global level of girls.

Intu Facts
02-20-13, 23:38
Hello All,

I will be taking my 10th trip in 3 years to the DR starting Feb. 26th to Mar. 2nd. For the past 2 years I have been enjoying reading this site with all the great info. And to be quite honest, I have enjoyed the percieved personalty of the members here.

I'm usualy the type of guy thats low key with my mongering going only to FOD / Cristols / BB's. I decided to change things up a bit for two reasons and I want to tell you why.

(1) It was something DeepImpact said."To give back to the forum is to show respect". And he's right. I also view this to mean "appreciation" aswell. I do appreciate all of the info and stories posted here in the last two years. For my NEXT TRIP I plan to go to Pattaya or the Philippines But before I do I need to complete my DR experience (For me) and go to Sosua. Wich brings me to the second reason.

(2) It was something oldkool said recently. FOD and BB are good but when your ready to put your BIG PANCE ON you need to come to Sosua. I laughed at myself because (In my mind) he was talking to me. And he's right. I can't MOVE ON until I go to Sosua.

SO, I will be FOD 2/26 for 2 nights before moving on to Sosua for the weekend. Checking out Passions and Dlatins etc. Ending my trip at BB's. I will be posting reports the morning of every night spent in the DR. I'm looking forward to giving back to this forum in my reporting. Thanks again guys for all that you do. Anyone down there at that time let me know.

Frannie
02-21-13, 01:34
There is a new night club in Puerto Plata called the Cocoa Club where they have mujeres bailando desnudas. Taxi drivers are being offered 500 pesos to bring in customers and they seem to be working hard to promote the place, so don't expect it to be cheap. It is located where the El Boem nightclub used to be. I understand they have live-in chicas.

http://www.cocoanightclubandsportsbar.com/about.html

No doubt it will run for a while and then expire for lack of clientele.

Charles Pooter
02-21-13, 03:49
I read your post very seriously, and I have come to the conclusion that I will not go to the streets of Sosua by myself. To partner up with someone who has aced the area is my best bet.

Otherwise, Passions or FOD here I cum.Sorry, didn't mean to discourage you. Hundreds of newbies visit Sosua for the first time each year and have a great time.

Luckily for you, you can have the best of both worlds. You can stay at Field of Dreams and visit Sosua by day or in the evenings. It only costs 45 pesos (50 at night) each way (just over US$1 each way). When you get to Sosua you can meet up with some reliable experienced mongers who will will be happy to show you around and point out some possible pitfalls. You could literally walk to every place of interest in Sosua in one afternoon. It is a very small town.

(That is not strictly true. Sosua is comprised of several "villages" spread over a wide area, but the only part you will be interested in on your first stay is El Batey, where all the action for gringos is.)

I would be happy to help you with both aspects. Using the cheap public transport system from Field of Dreams and meeting helpful mongers in Sosua. (Not saying you need my, or anyone's help, to get started). Could also show you the little that is of interest in Puerto Plata.

Also at Field of Dreams you might share taxis with fellow guests to places of interest.

Alternatively you could stay in Sosua, use Passions, and let guys introduce you to the rest of the town until you have built up the confidence to go it alone.

I have always preferred to monger alone but my first visit to Sosua I was grateful to be guided by three experienced guys who I first met that day. That was seven years ago and we are still good friends.

How's your Spanish, by the way? Having no Spanish will restrict your options but won't stop you having a good time.

Charles Pooter
02-21-13, 04:00
There is a new night club in Puerto Plata called the Cocoa Club where they have mujeres bailando desnudas. Taxi drivers are being offered 500 pesos to bring in customers and they seem to be working hard to promote the place, so don't expect it to be cheap. It is located where the El Bohem nightclub used to be. I understand they have live-in chicas.

http://www.cocoanightclubandsportsbar.com/about.html

No doubt it will run for a while and then expire for lack of clientele.Went past today and saw their new logo on the gate. It is linked "C"s above a large crystal. I wrongly assumed that the place was now under the same management at Cristals, but it seems that they are just cashing in on the name, like when those dumbasses re-opened Field of Dreams as "Whitebeards".

Might take out a second mortgage and invest in a bottle of water there just to scope the place out. I bet there are no haitianas there so I wouldn't patronize the place even if I could afford it.

Frannie
02-21-13, 13:27
Went past today and saw their new logo on the gate. It is linked "C"s above a large crystal. I wrongly assumed that the place was now under the same management at Cristals, but it seems that they are just cashing in on the name, like when those dumbasses re-opened Field of Dreams as "Whitebeards".It is not a crystal, it is a "diamante" and the girls within the club are diamonds, I. E. Hard, sharp, and expensive.

They are working hard on kitting out taxis with stickers promoting the place, and I imagine will be trying to compete with the Cristal Rio Spa and Club for the all-inclusive dime (USA slang word meaning ten-cent piece).

GentleLapper
02-21-13, 22:53
Sorry, didn't mean to discourage you. Hundreds of newbies visit Sosua for the first time each year and have a great time.

Luckily for you, you can have the best of both worlds. You can stay at Field of Dreams and visit Sosua by day or in the evenings. It only costs 45 pesos (50 at night) each way (just over US$1 each way). When you get to Sosua you can meet up with some reliable experienced mongers who will will be happy to show you around and point out some possible pitfalls. You could literally walk to every place of interest in Sosua in one afternoon. It is a very small town.

(That is not strictly true. Sosua is comprised of several "villages" spread over a wide area, but the only part you will be interested in on your first stay is El Batey, where all the action for gringos is.)

I would be happy to help you with both aspects. Using the cheap public transport system from Field of Dreams and meeting helpful mongers in Sosua. (Not saying you need my, or anyone's help, to get started). Could also show you the little that is of interest in Puerto Plata.

Also at Field of Dreams you might share taxis with fellow guests to places of interest.

Alternatively you could stay in Sosua, use Passions, and let guys introduce you to the rest of the town until you have built up the confidence to go it alone.

I have always preferred to monger alone but my first visit to Sosua I was grateful to be guided by three experienced guys who I first met that day. That was seven years ago and we are still good friends.

How's your Spanish, by the way? Having no Spanish will restrict your options but won't stop you having a good time.thanks for all your input. As I research, if I have any questions, I ask here.

My Spanish vocabulary is little to none. Been thinking of going Rosetta Stone or something.

Funny thing tho;

I remembered when I left BB in June '12, I told the Cab driver "POP in Puerta Plata". He actually drove me to the Heart of the city of Puerta Plata, and was going to drop me off.

So I had to spread out my arms like airplane wings and imitated sounds of a jet engine. He then nodded his head, and took me to POP.

I figured I better learn some Spanish for the next time, or I'll really run into some Havoc.

When I went to Boca Chica, I really didn't have issues, because the resort manager picks you up and back to SDQ, no charge. The girls and staff spoke pretty good English.

Lapper

GentleLapper
02-22-13, 10:45
May 2012 : stayed at BB.

Oct 2012 : stayed at FOD.

Feb 2013 : stayed at BB.

I had a good time at FOD and probably I will come there again in the future, but, in my opinion, today BB is better than FOD in everything : the resort by itself, the organization and the global level of girls.Hi,

Probably all true. But I'll see for myself.

I was at BB, but I cannot return there to further comment any future BB visits.

So from I'm reading all over the forum regarding good remarks about FOD, I'll eventually compare my experiences with FOD to BB.

Maybe I'm missing something. I have beenatBB, and the resort pictures that FOD present on their website looks so much better than BB. Are the pics deceiving?

*I'm curious to know why after you going to BB first, what was the reason why you went to FOD on your second trip and not BB, then back to BB?

Lapper

Hillbilly69
02-22-13, 12:17
My Spanish vocabulary is little to none. Been thinking of going Rosetta Stone or something.

Funny thing tho;

I remembered when I left BB in June '12, I told the Cab driver "POP in Puerta Plata". He actually drove me to the Heart of the city of Puerta Plata, and was going to drop me off.

So I had to spread out my arms like airplane wings and imitated sounds of a jet engine. He then nodded his head, and took me to POP.

I figured I better learn some Spanish for the next time, or I'll really run into some Havoc.Send me your email via PM and I will send you a monger Spanish MP3.

Airporto works for going to the airport.

OldKool
02-22-13, 14:22
Sosua us very easy. You will have no problems. The guys there are fellow mongers they will give you all the help you need. The green in your pocket will do all the talking you need.


thanks for all your input. As I research, if I have any questions, I ask here.

My Spanish vocabulary is little to none. Been thinking of going Rosetta Stone or something.

Funny thing tho;

I remembered when I left BB in June '12, I told the Cab driver "POP in Puerta Plata". He actually drove me to the Heart of the city of Puerta Plata, and was going to drop me off.

So I had to spread out my arms like airplane wings and imitated sounds of a jet engine. He then nodded his head, and took me to POP.

I figured I better learn some Spanish for the next time, or I'll really run into some Havoc.

When I went to Boca Chica, I really didn't have issues, because the resort manager picks you up and back to SDQ, no charge. The girls and staff spoke pretty good English.

Lapper

GentleLapper
02-22-13, 19:14
Thanks to all for your help, much appreciated.

Lapper

M Milone
02-22-13, 20:18
Sosua us very easy. You will have no problems. The guys there are fellow mongers they will give you all the help you need. The green in your pocket will do all the talking you need.You can use www.livemocha.com To learn a language (free).

M Milone
02-22-13, 20:51
Last year about this time, I spent a couple of weeks in Philippines and managed to have a few interesting times with some local women. You can read about them in my posts in the Makati and Manila forums around January, February last year. The good news is, that this year, at the beginning of April, I am going to Puerto Plata in the Dominican for a couple of weeks. The bad news, is that I am going with my occasional girlfriend. In spite of this, I'the like to be able to have a couple of clandestine hookups with some local women, which means some ingenuity on my part. We'll be staying at the be-live on Playa Dorado. At most, I'the be able to duck out for 2 or 3 hours at a time, and my hookups would have be outside of my hotel, but reasonably close by.

Mission Impossible? I hope not. Although I am a firm believer in RTFM, I haven't found any posts that might help me find solve my particular quest, that is, find a ST girl, preferably amateur, for a tryst in the morning, afternoon or early evening, at a location other than my hotel.

Any tips would be extremely welcome. I will be sure to report back on my success or failure (hopefully not). I'd also be pleased to answer any questions about my limited experience in the Philippines.

For those that might criticise me for cheating on my gf while on vacation, please know, I get along with her very well, in most areas except for sex. Because of circumstances beyond her control, sex is unpleasant for her, so I try not to inflict it that often, which leaves me frequently looking for some outside fun, something that's pretty hard to find in my neck of the north woods.First let me say that you could be criticized for not taking advantage of your trip to the D. R. Ab sampling the locals. Not sure how you Spanish is, but if you don't take the advice regarding F. O. D, there are a couple of Car Wash joints close to Playa Dorada on the main strip. There are always girls available. There is also a cabana close by, on the same side of the street as F. O. D. Girls are friendly. Share a few beers with them. The cabana is basic, but cheap. You may just want to go there anyway for a beer just to get out of the resort. Who knows, you may find someone there that you can hook up with for the duration of your trip.

Charles Pooter
02-23-13, 18:11
First let me say that you could be criticized for not taking advantage of your trip to the D. R. Ab sampling the locals. Not sure how you Spanish is, but if you don't take the advice regarding F. O. D, there are a couple of Car Wash joints close to Playa Dorada on the main strip. There are always girls available. There is also a cabana close by, on the same side of the street as F. O. D. Girls are friendly. Share a few beers with them. The cabana is basic, but cheap. You may just want to go there anyway for a beer just to get out of the resort. Who knows, you may find someone there that you can hook up with for the duration of your trip.You forgot to mention those places are six miles away in Cangrejos, so I hope he won't try to walk there. Our friend is trying to sneak out for a quicky. Not sure he has time to "share a few beers" unless he is damned quick drinker, plus he has to allow 15-20 minutes for transport each way. Also depends what time of day he is sneaking out. There may "always be girls" there from late afternoon on, but earlier in the day those places are deserted. Finally, as you suggest, he would need Spanish to pull something at a reasonable price, whereas he could get by at F. O. D. without.

Brother P
02-24-13, 17:02
Brethren! I need a little info.

I've decided to spend the first few days of my March trip in Santiago instead of Sousa, so I can pursue some non pro leads. Any advice on how a inexpensive, or a least reasonable priced way to get from the airport in PP to Santiago? A buddy told me he paid a taxi $100! I know it can be done for less. Thanks in advance!

Hillbilly69
02-24-13, 17:21
Brethren! I need a little info.

I've decided to spend the first few days of my March trip in Santiago instead of Sousa, so I can pursue some non pro leads. Any advice on how a inexpensive, or a least reasonable priced way to get from the airport in PP to Santiago? A buddy told me he paid a taxi $100! I know it can be done for less. Thanks in advance!I would take the taxi right from the sidewalk at POP to Caribe bus station in Los Charmicos or the Texaco Station in Sosua then take the Metro bus.

Isc55
02-24-13, 19:17
Hi,

Probably all true. But I'll see for myself.

I was at BB, but I cannot return there to further comment any future BB visits.

So from I'm reading all over the forum regarding good remarks about FOD, I'll eventually compare my experiences with FOD to BB.

Maybe I'm missing something. I have beenatBB, and the resort pictures that FOD present on their website looks so much better than BB. Are the pics deceiving?

*I'm curious to know why after you going to BB first, what was the reason why you went to FOD on your second trip and not BB, then back to BB?

LapperAnswers to your questions :

1- Pics perhaps are not "deceiving" but always are a picture that is not exactly what you found.

2- After reading a lot of different opinions about BB and FOD I wanted to see FOD and so to get my own opinion. For my third trip I decided to come back to BB to confirm my opinion about it and also to meet some girls I loved in my first trip.

I find very intelligent you want to compare both resorts by yourself (it is exactly what I did!)