Puerto Plata

[GentleLapper]

Answers to your questions :

1- Pics perhaps are not "deceiving" but always are a picture that is not exactly what you found.

2- After reading a lot of different opinions about BB and FOD I wanted to see FOD and so to get my own opinion. For my third trip I decided to come back to BB to confirm my opinion about it and also to meet some girls I loved in my first trip.

I find very intelligent you want to compare both resorts by yourself (it is exactly what I did!) Hi Isc55,

"I find very intelligent you want to compare both resorts by yourself ". Not entirely true.

If I wasn't banned from BB, I would have simply returned to BB, because it worked ok. Just because some of the girls got out of line. 7 out of 10 chicas did good for me, and that's still a passing grade. In fact I should say 8 of 10. So what; the first girl left early. Big deal. Who gives a damn, she was still a good F.

If I went back to BB the second time. I'm sure it would have been better.

I can easily become a regular, a repeat customer providing all goes well, ease of getting there and back, easy on the wallet, etc. And not be interested in going anywhere else.

Perhaps not a good thing either; because of what I'm reading across the board here, I'd be missing out on the rest of DR. So like someone PM'ed me the other day," BB did you a favor!".

Basically I was inquiring what resorts are similiar to BB, Because I liked how BB is structered.

If I ever go to FOD, I will probably post comments how good FOD was, but not to do a comparison report.

Thanks again, much appreciate it.

Lapper

[Doker44]

Went past today and saw their new logo on the gate. It is linked "C"s above a large crystal. I wrongly assumed that the place was now under the same management at Cristals, but it seems that they are just cashing in on the name, like when those dumbasses re-opened Field of Dreams as "Whitebeards".

Might take out a second mortgage and invest in a bottle of water there just to scope the place out. I bet there are no haitianas there so I wouldn't patronize the place even if I could afford it.The cab drivers have cards with the girls on them, I think the manager is an ex-cabbie or cab boss. Well I took one, well didn't learn my lesson, took two for the team. Girls are stellar looking but the price to get them out is 5700 and and this was late. But the worst part the girls have rules, rules, and more rules. Definitively will not return until I hear they have the service straightened out. Promised, told no problem, a morning session was in play...eeennnnttt...wrong answer, didnt get that. I complained about the service and told him if he gets a bad rep he can forget it. Also the girls live there and I have always found that can create problems. No way this place makes it unless they change big time.

[Lakeside32]

Its been almost 3 yrs but I'm finally making my way back. Unfortunately I'm flyin into Santo Domingo, so I'm going to have to do the caribe bus thing, unless someone on here is doing the same. I'm arriving Apr 4 and stayin at Blackbeards for 3 days and then Sosua for 2 and then back to Santo Domingo. I'm so happy to get away from the states for a while that I could care less about a long bus ride; however if anyone is travelling the same time, fill me in on what your doing.

[BogieMaker]

Its been almost 3 yrs but I'm finally makin my way back. Unfortunately I'm flyin into santo domingo, so I'm going to have to do the caribe bus thing, unless someone on here is doing the same. I'm arriving Apr 4 and stayin at blackbeards for 3 days and then sosua for 2 and then back to santo domingo. I'm so happy to get away from the states for a while that I could care less about a long bus ride; however if anyone is travelling the same time, fill me in on what your doing.I am flying into SDQ on April 5th and driving to PP on the 6th. Looks like we miss each other by a day. I will be returning to SDQ on the 12th if that fits your plans in any way. Maybe I can help you on your transportation from BB to Sosua since I usually make day trips to Sosua when staying at BB. Maybe save you some cab fare.

Look for a pasty white guy going by the name Geraldo.

[IM Punter]

You are fortunate that Field of Dreams is only 15 minutes slow and safe walk from your hotel. They have putas and short-time rooms available.Thanks everyone who responded to my post. It does sound like FOD is my best bet although I'll need a cab from the Be-live for my bid for monger freedom, albiet it a short one.

I really appreciate the map. Very helpful in putting things in perspective. I did make a mistake in my location (thanks to a well meaning friend who "knew the area") but google maps and ISG are my friends and I should have checked them both a little better before posting.

Just a note about my preference for amateurs over pros. In my limited experience here in the states, seasoned pro's are very mechanical and not much better than blow up dolls whereas amateurs seem to be more GFE and girl next door. This was mainly my experience in the Philippines as well. Anyhow, I'll report back on my experience. Thanks again.

[Lakeside32]

I am flying into SDQ on April 5th and driving to PP on the 6th. Looks like we miss each other by a day. I will be returning to SDQ on the 12th if that fits your plans in any way. Maybe I can help you on your transportation from BB to Sosua since I usually make day trips to Sosua when staying at BB. Maybe save you some cab fare.

Look for a pasty white guy going by the name Geraldo.I will do exactly that. I will be the black guy sometimes wearing a cardinals baseball cap. I love to sit at the bar, sip Hennessey and smoke cigars (maybe they will find cubans this time). My flight gets to SDQ really early so that should allow me plenty time to get to BB's.

[Onedazz]

Its been almost 3 yrs but I'm finally makin my way back. Unfortunately I'm flyin into santo domingo, so I'm going to have to do the caribe bus thing, unless someone on here is doing the same. I'm arriving Apr 4 and stayin at blackbeards for 3 days and then sosua for 2 and then back to santo domingo. I'm so happy to get away from the states for a while that I could care less about a long bus ride; however if anyone is travelling the same time, fill me in on what your doing.You know you could do the open jaw ticket thing. Come in one city and go out another to save on the bus trip back.

[OldKool]

Is there good baseball in Puerto Plato or SD going on now.

[Charles Pooter]

Is there good baseball in Puerto Plato or SD going on now.There is never senior level baseball in Pto Pta. Just local teams and a lot of softball. Funny, because the baseball stadium is the most prominent landmark in the city (as far as giving directions).

[Mackin]

I am hearing that BBBJ are not allowed at Bb's. Can anybody confirm this. Some guys I know heard it and cancelled their time there. Did they make a mistake?

[Manizales911]

I am hearing that BBBJ are not allowed at Bb's. Can anybody confirm this. Some guys I know heard it and cancelled their time there. Did they make a mistake?Not true. The girls are required to attend "seminars" at BB's put on by the health dept. And they strongly encourage the girls to practice CBJ. Most girls know that their income will be adversely affected by giving CBJ so most give BBBJ but my experience has been about 20% won't do it. Best to ask the girl before agreeing to go to the room.

[Husker Dude]

I am hearing that BBBJ are not allowed at Bb's. Can anybody confirm this. Some guys I know heard it and cancelled their time there. Did they make a mistake?I spent a week at BB in mid-Feb and all the girls I took did BBBJ.

[Charles Pooter]

I spent a week at BB in mid-Feb and all the girls I took did BBBJ.If they mostly didn't the place would soon close down. Too much competition not to.

[Mackin]

Thanks for response guys.

[GentleLapper]

I am hearing that BBBJ are not allowed at Bb's. Can anybody confirm this. Some guys I know heard it and cancelled their time there. Did they make a mistake?All the girls I had at BB did BBBJ and a few did BBBJTCWS. Depends on girl. If they see or hear from others that you're a tipper, they usually go all the way.

[Traveler04]

My experience at BB's has taught me that girls are far more willing to give a BBBJ if; you are clean and treat them well. As previously stated ask before you seal the deal.

[DBoyyy]

Newbie here, considering these resorts, and mainly, Blackbeard (BB).

Is BB the best option out there (price, level of talent.)?

Considering a short 3 night trip.

Tip wise, what is the norm of a good tip?

15% of the cost of food, beverage, companionship, and so forth?

For example, if something cost 3000 pesos, should I be tipping like 450 pesos?

Thanks for the help.

[Buscemi]

Newbie here, considering these resorts, and mainly, Blackbeard (BB).

Is BB the best option out there (price, level of talent.)?

Considering a short 3 night trip.

Tip wise, what is the norm of a good tip?

15% of the cost of food, beverage, companionship, and so forth?

For example, if something cost 3000 pesos, should I be tipping like 450 pesos?

Thanks for the help.No reason to tip for a chica's services, unless she takes it in the brown or sucks your balls through her nose.
Unless you get a spectacular performance, no need to tip more than a small amount.
Dominicans NEVER tip for a taxi or a chica's performance, when in Rome do as ....

[BogieMaker]

Newbie here, considering these resorts, and mainly, Blackbeard (BB).

Is BB the best option out there (price, level of talent.)?

Considering a short 3 night trip.

Tip wise, what is the norm of a good tip?

15% of the cost of food, beverage, companionship, and so forth?

For example, if something cost 3000 pesos, should I be tipping like 450 pesos?

Thanks for the help.At BB if you charge to your room a 10% tip is included in the charge. My understanding is this is distributed to the staff (cooks / cleaning) and sometimes the bar staff. The bar staff has indicated to me that they do not always share in the 10% collected on charges. The bar staff has a propina bucket on the bar if you are inclined to tip.

If the service is good I usually tip 100 pesos to the girls.

My understanding is that tipping is not expected in the DR.

[Charles Pooter]

Is BB the best option out there (price, level of talent)?Many would say so, and I wouldn't disagree. But if it were that simple this board wouldn't contain tens of thousands of posts on many different mongering locations, each with their passionate supporters and detractors. Everyone would just trot along to Blackbeards like sheep.

Try reading the board and forming your own judgment.

[Combo]

No reason to tip for a chica's services, unless she takes it in the brown or sucks your balls through her nose.

Unless you get a spectacular performance, no need to tip more than a small amount.

Dominicans NEVER tip for a taxi or a chica's performance, when in Rome do as.Tipping is not practiced for the most part in the DR. Some visitors (mostly Americans since we are the country where tipping is standard) are doing their best to start a new trend.

My recommendation is with taxis and restaurants, just round up to the next bill that you have. With chicas, only tip if you get exceptional service, I. E. Anal and / or swallowing.

[DBoyyy]

Many would say so, and I wouldn't disagree. But if it were that simple this board wouldn't contain tens of thousands of posts on many different mongering locations, each with their passionate supporters and detractors. Everyone would just trot along to Blackbeards like sheep.

Try reading the board and forming your own judgment.Mind providing some suggestions?

Never gone on a trip such as this, so I'm trying to find the best resort / area to go sex crazed for a couple of nights.

I'm also considering FOD, but right now I only know a handful of places.

It would be great if there was a listing of all the places such as FOD and BB in DR, so I can check out their site and assess the costs, facilities, etc.

[Traveler04]

If you search back on this thread you will see many many reports written that compare both FOD and BB's. The bottom line in all of this is you will have a great experience at either place for three days. Three days will be to short of a time for you to be bored. If you want more specific information I am sure you can just PM one of us and we will help you.

My first adventure in any country was in the DR and at BB's. I (like many others) was like a deer in the headlights with all of the girls to pick from. I never had the same girl twice in 6 days unless she was part of a threesome. It was like being addicted I just could not stop or have enough.

You can not go wrong for your first trip at either place.

[Charles Pooter]

Never gone on a trip such as this, so I'm trying to find the best resort / area to go sex crazed for a couple of nights.

I'm also considering FOD, but right now I only know a handful of places.Not sure where you are coming from but I assume North America. If you are only coming for three days / two nights your travel costs spread over such a short time mean that you will already be paying an awful lot per day. In that respect staying at Oxygen makes more sense for you than it might for those staying longer, but is still not good value in my opinion.

If a guy is coming for four weeks (which when I used to travel here was the minimum I would consider to be an acceptable holiday) he can afford to ease himself in gradually and have the odd day's rest from sex doing touristy stuff.

But for what you are paying per day you will want to start banging chicas within an hour of arrival and not stop until you leave for the airport on the third (?) day. You don't have time to learn the ropes in Sosua. You will want everything served up immediately without hassle.

Blackbeards is the best venue for you. Safe, no need for any Spanish (though always more fun if you do speak the language) , and the small premium you will pay there for AI service is trivial considering what you are paying per day in travel costs.

Field of Dreams would be my second choice. If you were considering Oxygen you are obviously awash with cash so you could take girls out of Cristal back to Field of Dreams for the night.

But really Blackbeards is the obvious spot for you. You could have a wild time there for far less than you were prepared to spend at Oxygen.

There are other places but they come and go. None of them have the reputation that Blackbeards has earned over eight years of consistency. The only frequent complaint about Blackbeards is that you can get bored there, but with only two or three nights that won't happen to you. I guarantee you will be depressed as hell when it is time to leave and will wish you were staying on for another week (two weeks.).

[Manizales911]

Does anybody know where the infamous Yohanni is plying her trade since leaving BB's? I am planning a trip to the North coast with a couple wingmen and one of them wants to hook up with her.

[Charles Pooter]

Does anybody know where the infamous Yohanni is plying her trade since leaving BB's? I am planning a trip to the North coast with a couple wingmen and one of them wants to hook up with her.Try the Hogar de Ancianos in Puerto Plata.

[Frannie]

Try the Hogar de Ancianos in Puerto Plata.I guess she retired young.

[Manizales911]

I guess she retired young.
Try the Hogar de Ancianos in Puerto Plata.Thanks, you guys are fucking awesome. Frannie, she probably made five times more money in the last ten years than you and Pooter combined. This forum's gone to shit.

[Charles Pooter]

Frannie, she probably made five times more money in the last ten years than you and Pooter combined.So has Donald Trump, but I wouldn't want him sucking my dick, either. I think the key words here are "ten years".

Seriously, if I see her around or hear of her, I will PM you.

[DBoyyy]

Thanks for all the help guys! It is very much appreciated!

Another question for you veterans of the DR experience.

In terms of "looks", which resort has the best looking girls?

I understand the girls come and go, and there won't be a clear cut empirical answer,

But in your personal opinions, influenced by your multiple visits to various resorts and places, where are the best looking girls?

[MS Clive]

Thanks for all the help guys! It is very much appreciated!

Another question for you veterans of the DR experience.

In terms of "looks", which resort has the best looking girls?

I understand the girls come and go, and there won't be a clear cut empirical answer,

But in your personal opinions, influenced by your multiple visits to various resorts and places, where are the best looking girls?Take Mr. Pooter's advice and go to BB. Perfect if you like dark skinned girls. Also talk to mamasan if you want a specific characteristics in a chica and she will recommend a girl. Saving you a hit or miss. Generally you will not be disappointed with BB especially if it is your first mongering trip to DR.

If you prefer Caucasian looking girls DR is the wrong country but some girls to be had at Oxygen at higher price.

I personally loved BB on my first trip there but got bored on my 2nd trip there. Since then I stick to Sosua and never even go to BB. Yet BB is your best bet because girls are available round the clock.

[Towelboy2010]

I am a senior member who began mongering in South East Asia in 2003. What an adventure that 1st trip was!

I am planning a trip later this spring, with a buddy, to either the Dominican Republic or Columbia (Cartagena & Medellin).

For about four months now I have been reading the forums and still have not made up my mind on the best choice. Tho I am leaning towards Columbia. I am thinking those who may have been in SEA and the DR & Columbia can steer me in the right direction.

I am 58, American, no Spanish ability (tho I am taking an adult 'Ed course on conversational Spanish). I am most familiar with the monger scene in the Philippines (read GFE) and have had great success there. I loved going to the LA Café in Manila and picking up the girls one or 2 at a time. Ha ha ha.

I generally get 2. 3 girls over the course of the evening. The most I had was 5 in one night in Angeles City (1-2-2). For instance, it sounds like at Blackbeards in the DR, that they roll up the streets by midnight when I am just getting started. I am friendly, cheerful and easy going and seldom get rejected. I search more for "chemistry" than looks. I watch my money, but don't pinch it either, generally staying with market rates.

If I went to Columbia, I would probably use Fabio in Cartagena and stay at the Mansion in Medellin.

I am a former band member so I do like to party (cola) and that is one thing Columbia offers that the others do not tho I am years out of practice now anyway.

I will continue to read, but experienced advice is welcome at this point.

Thanks, Bob

[Chris Long]

I am a senior member who began mongering in South East Asia in 2003. What an adventure that 1st trip was!

I am planning a trip later this spring, with a buddy, to either the Dominican Republic or Columbia (Cartagena & Medellin).

For about four months now I have been reading the forums and still have not made up my mind on the best choice. Tho I am leaning towards Columbia. I am thinking those who may have been in SEA and the DR & Columbia can steer me in the right direction.

I am 58, American, no Spanish ability (tho I am taking an adult 'Ed course on conversational Spanish). I am most familiar with the monger scene in the Philippines (read GFE) and have had great success there. I loved going to the LA Café in Manila and picking up the girls one or 2 at a time. Ha ha ha.

I generally get 2. 3 girls over the course of the evening. The most I had was 5 in one night in Angeles City (1-2-2). For instance, it sounds like at Blackbeards in the DR, that they roll up the streets by midnight when I am just getting started. I am friendly, cheerful and easy going and seldom get rejected. I search more for "chemistry" than looks. I watch my money, but don't pinch it either, generally staying with market rates.

If I went to Columbia, I would probably use Fabio in Cartagena and stay at the Mansion in Medellin.

I am a former band member so I do like to party (cola) and that is one thing Columbia offers that the others do not tho I am years out of practice now anyway.

I will continue to read, but experienced advice is welcome at this point.

Thanks, BobAs you can probably guess my vote is for Asia, As far as GFE and price goes I don't think your going to beat the PI and AC. Your right about BB unless you schedule a girl for TLN you will find nothing but the crickets after midnight. I'm like you I'm a night crawler and a major butterfly I like to tast the pollen of four or five women a day before I decide on one to sleep next to and cuddle for the night. That is one thing I did not like about AC the hottest girls get barfined early, I like to flutter from peddle to peddle through out the day and early evening. By two or three in the morning when I'm ready to call it a night and want a girl to hold in my arms while I sleep the best ones are already taken.

Sosua is great but it is a poor man's Angeles City, the scene is really changing with the girls becoming more business oriented and less GFE and prices are slowly starting to creep up. I'm going to be there in a couple weeks and again during the first week of May. So I'll be giving an updated field report but I think you're going to be disappointed if you are expecting to find the sweet little piney type of girls in Sosua who will cuddle up to you for the night and treat you like you are the love of their life.

I have not been to Medellin so I can't speak as to the mongering there. But I will be there at the mansion for the first time this August.

If it's me and I have a week or more I do Asia if I have a four or five day weekend I go to Sosua.

I will be in Thailand for twenty days in June Rio for two weeks in July and Medellin at the mansion for five days in August. If you're interested PM me and I'll give you my exact dates and we can meet up in one of those locations.

Chris

[D Cups]

Hi Chris,

I always enjoy reading your posts. Like you, I favor PI and SEA. However, I am planning a trip to DR for the first time in early 2015 (with 3 trips to PI and Vietnam before then).

Is it easy to get to Puerta Plata from Santo Domingo. What type of transportation do you recommend, please?

I will have about ten days in DR and was thinking of splitting it half in SD and half PP. Does this sound like a good plan?

Thanks, much! Hopefully our paths will cross one of these days!


As you can probably guess my vote is for Asia, As far as GFE and price goes I don't think your going to beat the PI and AC. Your right about BB unless you schedule a girl for TLN you will find nothing but the crickets after midnight. I'm like you I'm a night crawler and a major butterfly I like to tast the pollen of four or five women a day before I decide on one to sleep next to and cuddle for the night. That is one thing I did not like about AC the hottest girls get barfined early, I like to flutter from peddle to peddle through out the day and early evening. By two or three in the morning when I'm ready to call it a night and want a girl to hold in my arms while I sleep the best ones are already taken.

Sosua is great but it is a poor man's Angeles City, the scene is really changing with the girls becoming more business oriented and less GFE and prices are slowly starting to creep up. I'm going to be there in a couple weeks and again during the first week of May. So I'll be giving an updated field report but I think you're going to be disappointed if you are expecting to find the sweet little piney type of girls in Sosua who will cuddle up to you for the night and treat you like you are the love of their life.

I have not been to Medellin so I can't speak as to the mongering there. But I will be there at the mansion for the first time this August.

If it's me and I have a week or more I do Asia if I have a four or five day weekend I go to Sosua.

I will be in Thailand for twenty days in June Rio for two weeks in July and Medellin at the mansion for five days in August. If you're interested PM me and I'll give you my exact dates and we can meet up in one of those locations.

Chris

[Chris Long]

Hi Chris,

I always enjoy reading your posts. Like you, I favor PI and SEA. However, I am planning a trip to DR for the first time in early 2015 (with 3 trips to PI and Vietnam before then).

Is it easy to get to Puerta Plata from Santo Domingo. What type of transportation do you recommend, please?

I will have about ten days in DR and was thinking of splitting it half in SD and half PP. Does this sound like a good plan?

Thanks, much! Hopefully our paths will cross one of these days!By Puerto Plata I assume you mean Sosua that is the main mongering local in the DR. Puerto Plata has Black Beards, Field of Dreams as well as Crystals but it doesn't, in my opinion measure up to Sosua. There is a bus that runs from Sosua through Puerto Plata to Santiago and then to Santo Domingo. I've only taken it as far as Santiago but many others have taken it to and from Santo Domingo, its clean, safe, air conditioned and inexpensive.

Personally I think after your trips to SEA the DR may be a bit of a disappointment. The DR is real and its fun, but it isn't real fun, it is however one of the best places in the western hemisphere for mongering.

Spending time in Santo Domingo depends upon what your purpose of going to the DR is for. If it's just mongering then spending half of your time in Santo Domingo will be a disappointment. Mongering is available in SD but it's not the point and click in your face availability that Sosua is and it is more spread out, it will require you renting a car or high ring a driver, and drivers in Santo Domingo are a barrel of sneaks, having a driver take you to a casa will generally mean you also have to pay a commission for him taking you there.

Personally I would spend ten days in SEA and only spend a four or five day weekend in Sosua. But if you want to spend ten days in the DR and want to see both Sosua and Santo Domingo, I would fly into Santo Domingo and spend the first night and day there and then take the bus to Sosua spend the majority of my time there and then take the bus back to Santo Domingo for the last day or two.

Hope this helps; there are many others here who will also be able to give you their advice and insight into the mongering scene in the DR. Remember everyone for whatever reason has their favorite place in the world for mongering and their views may be tainted by their likes. I personally am crazy about Asian mongering where as some guys don't like Asia mongering because they're not attracted to the women there. Other guys still swear by Costa Rica and I think Costa Rica is beyond recovery.

Take care, have fun and remember to write up a report.

Chris

[Combo]

it's very easy to take the bus from sosua / pp to santo domingo or in the other direction. metro takes about 4 hours and it's very comfortable (though they really crank the ac so don't wear shorts). caribe also has service but i think it takes a bit longer and isn't as convenient for leaving from / coming to sosua.

unless you're into other big-city activities (clubbing, dancing, gambling, et al) 2 nights is enough for santo domingo. it's not a typical vacation destination. there aren't even beaches, though you can take a walk on the malecon. otoh sosua is very much a vacation place with beaches, [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117), bars, and chicas all within walking distance.

you could also fly into s. domingo and fly out of p. plata or santiago. i've done this "open-jaw" trip a few times.

[D Cups]

thank you very much, combo and chris! you guys are great!

happy mongering!


it's very easy to take the bus from sosua / pp to santo domingo or in the other direction. metro takes about 4 hours and it's very comfortable (though they really crank the ac so don't wear shorts). caribe also has service but i think it takes a bit longer and isn't as convenient for leaving from / coming to sosua.

unless you're into other big-city activities (clubbing, dancing, gambling, et al) 2 nights is enough for santo domingo. it's not a typical vacation destination. there aren't even beaches, though you can take a walk on the malecon. otoh sosua is very much a vacation place with beaches, [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117), bars, and chicas all within walking distance.

you could also fly into s. domingo and fly out of p. plata or santiago. i've done this "open-jaw" trip a few times.

[Ponderosa]

Trip report, where to start?

I just got back from a three week trip to the DR. This was WAY LONGER than I ever wanted to stay in the DR at one time, but the purpose of this trip was to take advantage of 'medical tourism' (or more precisely 'dental tourism') and three weeks was necessary to complete the procedures. The partaking of the chicas along the way was a phenomenal side benefit of the trip. I had all the work done in a clinic in the DR, and with including airfare, hotel, food, transportation and paying for the dental work, I saved a couple thousand dollars over what I was quoted to have the work done in the US. I am extremely satisfied with the outcome and I had a trip I will never forget.

I have been to the DR close to 20 times since late 2006. Over the years I did the novia thing (yes, I was Western Union novio for a bit of time –no more, learned my lesson here) , hit Sosua, BBs and Santiago, but mostly I spent my time on the North Coast. My personal preference in punting is that I like being a spoon fed monger and although I break things up by occasionally visiting Sosua, I like the 'point and click' atmosphere of a place like BBs. This trip I had a lot of time on my hands, I thought I would explore a bit and broaden my horizons in several areas. I decided not to rent a car for my entire trip and I thought this was a good opportunity to try different modes of transport available here.

With this much time on my hands, I knew I could not do my entire stay at BBs. I knew I would get claustrophobic if I did. I also saw this as an opportunity to get a firsthand comparison of BBs to FOD. I booked about a week at BBs and another at FOD. I left things up in the air from there. Let me preface things here by saying I am not a shill for either place, I just am giving you my opinion.

BBs. They were the first DR establishment I visited in 2006. The place was nice back then, but I will tell you John has done nothing but try to improve the place since he bought it. His latest improvements have brought the hotel to an upper mid-level hotel by US standards. They finally have consistent HOT WATER! Nice A / C, very clean rooms and Wi-Fi available in my rooms (all total I had 3 rooms).20 plus girls are available in the afternoon shift and 25-35 chicas in the evening. The evening shift dresses up to the nines and there were a lot of 'doable' chicas available from noon on. The food has improved over the years and I am seeing more locals stopping by to eat as a testament to the improvement. Food prices for dinner average $8-$10. Tim, Cliff and Martha kept the place running smoothly without John being present my entire stay. I got 40. 9 pesos / US dollar from Jenny's and I made use of the local pharmacy and Solo Mia's restaurant. I also took one chica out to Los Tres Coco's in La Roka, a great restaurant 10 minutes from Costambar. When I first started travelling to the DR I got 33 pesos / US dollar and BBs chica rates were 1300 ST / 2500 TLN (about $40/$75 respectively) , today it is 1600 ST / 3000 TLN (about $40/$75 respectively). For the most part, BBs runs like a well-oiled machine. It was a lot rougher around the edges when I first started my travels there.

My biggest complaint, if you want to call it that, is the Costambar Taxi Mafia prices. Once you get to know your way around the DR and how cheap things are, you hate it when you know you are being gouged by paying 'gringo prices'. A Costambar mafia taxi to Puerto Plata clinic was 800 pesos ($20) , PP taxi back to BBS was $10. Motoconcho BBs to PP clinic 300 pesos ($7. 50) , PP motochoncho back to BBs. 75 to 100 pesos (about $2 to $2. 50)

FOD. The hotel itself is set up well. The grounds are manicured and the rooms are clean. The murals of hand painted, half naked women on every flat wall does creep me out, but some of the guys I talked to down there liked the hand crafted aspect of it. To each his own I guess. Jeffrey, Jamie and Pedro run the place. Neecko the Romanian bartender is a hoot and one of the biggest assets of FOD. FOD is completely surrounded by high walls and it sits alone, surrounded by a large field, across from the service entrance to Playa Dorada. Although this hotel is closer to PP and the airport than BBs, you can't get anywhere worthwhile by walking. One afternoon I took a 10 minute walk straight toward the sea cutting through Playa Dorada and I was told I could not use the beach because they were all private. On my walk there and back, Playa Dorada was a ghost town. Playa Dorada ain't what it used to be.

With FOD being somewhat isolated, having high walls and its close proximity to Playa Dorada has some advantages. For those people staying across the street in Playa Dorada, girls are available throughout the day; they can rent a room for a quickie and bypass the hassle and price of Crystals. I ran into another advantage while I was at FOD, there was a crew of guys throwing a semi-private party and it started to get a bit wild. At one point I saw one guy lying on the pool table getting a blow job from one of the chicas in full view of everyone. You won't see that at BBs. Being in a residential community, BBs does not allow nudity in any public areas. Obviously that situation doesn't bother FOD. They can also really crank up the music at night, something FOD can get away with vs. BBs having neighbors close by.

FODs location provides disadvantages in that if you want to do most anything off site, change money, get food, buy Cialis, anything else, you need to catch a ride. I was able to turn this disadvantage into a plus as I finally learned how to use the gua-gua's (local public transport). I caught the gua-gua in front of FOD for a 25 minute ride to Sosua for 100 pesos each way. It cost 30 pesos to catch a ride to the Puerto Plata clinic. Yes, you are stuffed in either a Toyota Corolla with 7 other Dominicans or a minivan with 19 of your closest friends, but really it is an experience and it is safe.

From my point of view, FOD is a nice place for a short stay, one, no more than two nights. The place reminds me a lot of how BBs used to be a long time ago. They have not worked out all the kinks. All the drama of the place works out in front of you if you stay there for any length of time. Jamie runs around like a chicken with his head cut off handling the problem of the moment. Rules are made up and broken on the spot by Jamie and Pedro. Maria is supposed to be the Mamason, but then Pedro says he is the Papason. The girls seem to playing the guys all the time. Jamie takes a chica of his choice to his room every night for the privilege of the chica keeping her job. Pedro jokes that he (Jamie) is 'quality control' for the chicas. The lunch and dinner plates are more expensive than BBs. Their menu is more limited and they don't have all the items listed on it. One night I asked for lasagna ('sorry, we are out') , then the pork steak from their signature dishes page ('sorry, we are out') , before settling on the bacon cheeseburger (that is one of their best selections).

Some of these comparisons / observations may be knit-picky, but here goes. When I first arrived, I had to get the girl who checked me in to fix things in my room so my TV would turn on, so my toilet would flush (it was plugged up) and show me how to turn on the air conditioner. It turns out the air conditioner in my room has a wall switch that turns it on or off, with no temperature control available. When I turned it on to go to bed at night, it would wake me up at about 4 am as it got too cold, it had iced up and was making that fan blade hitting ice noise. Even on a cool morning I still had to turn on the air conditioner when my room got stuffy, as there is only one window and no cross ventilation in my room. Not every room has a mini-fridge, which I miss a lot, especially if I get thirsty in the middle of the night. They have no clear cut ways to use the 'house phone' and you kind of have to muddle through it all yourself. Nowhere was I told or was it written that the chicas have an agreed to price of 1600 and 3000, just like BBs, but you can negotiate if you want to. No matter where you go, chica quality is always up for personal taste, as well as 'luck of the draw', but I was there for over a week and although there were always 10 to 20 chicas available, but to my taste, there were really only about 4 or five chicas that were 'doable'. The girls seem a lot 'hungrier' than BBs and I found myself locked in my room at times to keep from being pestered by the chicas for a date when I wanted to be left alone. This 'hunger' is a double edged sword as those few chicas I did choose to be with gave me a very high level of service. I like having ambient lighting while I am doing the deed with my chica, and BBs has small lamps off to the side that are perfect for that. At FOD their only lighting was the main overhead lights and I just didn't like the atmosphere it created (again, some of this may be knit-picky).

I realize this may sound like an advert for BBs, and in a way I guess it is. Really I am glad there is a place like FOD out there as it creates some competition for BBs and competition is a good thing. I wonder how long it would have been for BBs to get flat screen TVs had it not been for FOD? FOD reminds me a lot of BBs from years ago, but a bit more disorganized. It is going to take FOD a while to get things down pat and to find its niche. FOD is not BBs 'lite', nor should it be. Since I have been going down to the DR I have seen FOD change hands too many times, but I really think this time they have a chance to make it work. If for no other reason than Playa Dorada no longer has the pull that it used to.

PS: I have purposefully stayed off the boards and away from the punting community for a few years now. Life circumstances have pushed me out of the workforce and into an early retirement, thus causing a dramatic shift in my punting priorities / opportunities. Right or wrong, I chose not to communicate with even good friends over the years from the board as I dealt (and am dealing) with these changes. It was just too hard to juggle real life with my fantasy (mongering) life. My apologies to those I have intentionally ignored (you know who you are). I am only rejoining the conversation here on ISG as I have again been able to partake in our shared hobby on a limited basis and I have a few observations I thought I should share with the board. 'Nuff said on that subject.

[Orgasmico]

Trip report, where to start?Good report. I've been meaning to stop by FOD sometime for a drink when I'm up that way. Never stayed at either place but it's nice to know that both are improving. I still have a 2007 email from William Lane talking about FOD becoming "Cristal Mustang Ranch Resort" so I know what you mean about its ups and downs.

[Mr Gogo]

Welcome back Ponderosa, you have been missed. Great reporting also. Its funny but I sent FOD an email two weeks ago and still haven't received a response, oh well.

[Manizales911]

Welcome back Ponderosa, you have been missed. Great reporting also. Its funny but I sent FOD an email two weeks ago and still haven't received a response, oh well.I would try them again Gogo, I sent one to them last week and got a response within a couple hours.

[Mr Gogo]

I would try them again Gogo, I sent one to them last week and got a response within a couple hours.Thanks Mani but I've already made other plans for my Memorial day weekend in the DR. Maybe I will give them a try in the future.

[Charles Pooter]

Great post, Ponderosa, and good to welcome back, if only for a "guest star" appearance, one of our most sensible and informative posters.


For the most part, BBs runs like a well-oiled machine. It was a lot rougher around the edges when I first started my travels there.We are all in danger of taking Blackbeards for granted. Boy, we would miss it if it ever closed down, and mongering facilities have a habit of doing that. It's not for everyone, but it is the best at what it does for those who want that type of service, and all at a fair price. And the best introduction to mongering in the DR for nervous newbies without Spanish like I once was.

There is a thread in progress on D R 1 about the decline of Playa Dorada, and Puerto Plata generally, as a tourist destination. One of the more sensible suggestions was that they ask John of BB what they need to do, because he runs rings round them all (local politicians and hoteliers) when it comes to customer service and value for money.


FOD. The murals of hand painted, half naked women on every flat wall does creep me out, but some of the guys I talked to down there liked the hand crafted aspect of it. To each his own I guess.You have the advantage of me. I have yet to meet anyone who did not dislike them. More importantly, as one of FoD's few advantages over Blackbeards is that it is a better place to take semi-pros and non-pros back to, they are deterrent to potential clients.


Jeffrey, Jamie and Pedro run the place.What happened to Jesse? Did he leave again? Used to be run by the three "J"s.


Although [FoD] is closer to PP and the airport than BBs, you can't get anywhere worthwhile by walking.I spent several months there in total when Dominican Billy ran it. I often used to walk to the village of Munoz which lies behind the hotel and picked up some great haitianas at bargain basement prices. (Not everyone's idea of a good time, I appreciate!) Funny how they all surfaced in Sosua months or years later after benefitting from my career training.


One afternoon I took a 10 minute walk straight toward the sea cutting through Playa Dorada and I was told I could not use the beach because they were all private.Very unusual to hear of anyone being turned away. I wonder if they have tightened up? Legally all beaches in the DR are open to the public but I guess that argument wouldn't hold much weight against a couple of security guards with shotguns.

But not to worry, there are good beaches immediately to the right (east) and left (west) of the Playa Dorada beach. The first is usually deserted and the second has Dominicans, bars, restaurants and services.


With FOD being somewhat isolated, having high walls. Has some advantages.

At one point I saw one guy lying on the pool table getting a blow job from one of the chicas in full view of everyone

They can also really crank up the music at night.I wouldn't consider either of those instances "advantages". In fact I think that is the wrong direction for FoD to go for the sort of clientele it should be aiming at (same as the murals).


FODs location provides disadvantages in that . you need to catch a ride. I was able to turn this disadvantage into a plus as I finally learned how to use the gua-gua's (local public transport). I caught the gua-gua in front of FOD for a 25 minute ride to Sosua for 100 pesos each way. It cost 30 pesos to catch a ride to the Puerto Plata clinic. Yes, you are stuffed in either a Toyota Corolla with 7 other Dominicans or a minivan with 19 of your closest friends, but really it is an experience and it is safe.Good for you. But the ride to Sosua should be 50 pesos each way, not 100, unless you did the sensible thing and paid for two adjacent seats for a bit more comfort. Your math is a bit out. Full complement for a publico is driver and two passengers (sharing a bucket seat for one) at front, and four passengers sharing a bench seat for three at back.

I am talking here about publicos (shared taxis) not guaguas (sometimes buses, but usually minivans). The latter are slower and you are unlikely to have the option of buying adjacent seats.


FOD is not BBs 'lite', nor should it be.Absolutely. I have been flogging that line for years. If FoD tries to compete head-on with BB there will only be one winner. FoD should promote its "niche" assets to a minority clientele. It is not a huge place (16 rooms?) and doesn't need to cater to the monger mass-market to flourish.

[DBoyyy]

Take Mr. Pooter's advice and go to BB. Perfect if you like dark skinned girls. Also talk to mamasan if you want a specific characteristics in a chica and she will recommend a girl. Saving you a hit or miss. Generally you will not be disappointed with BB especially if it is your first mongering trip to DR.

If you prefer Caucasian looking girls DR is the wrong country but some girls to be had at Oxygen at higher price.

I personally loved BB on my first trip there but got bored on my 2nd trip there. Since then I stick to Sosua and never even go to BB. Yet BB is your best bet because girls are available round the clock.LOL.

Just out of curiosity, where would one go if they were looking for "Caucasian looking" girls?

Personal preference is girls who look mixed. (between various races)

[Bliadun]

You can find plenty of those at BB.


LOL.

Just out of curiosity, where would one go if they were looking for "Caucasian looking" girls?

Personal preference is girls who look mixed. (between various races)

[MS Clive]

You can find plenty of those at BB.Mixed. Eh? Yes BB and Sosua both have plenty of them. Passions at Sosua is my favorite for mixed. Albeit with higher prices and inflated egos, attitudes. But generally predictable, clean and better-than-average looking Chicas. If you like slightly slimmer Caucasian looking chicas then Passions is good.

BB is something all newbies should experience at least ones. 3 days in BB is a great intro to DR chicas.

[Lakeside32]

It sucks that I was supposed to board my plane for DR tomorrow. But long story short I don't have to make a trip to Puerto Rico so I won't arrive till the 18th. Fortunately I will be arriving in Santiago and not Santo Domingo. So if anyone wants to share a cab, let me know.

[Yanqui69]

Welcome back Ponderosa, you have been missed. Great reporting also. Its funny but I sent FOD an email two weeks ago and still haven't received a response, oh well.Ponderosa,

Good to hear from you after your absence.

Check your Yahoo email when you get the chance.

Good luck to you, homey.

Yanqui69

[Charles Pooter]

The 2 times that I have been to BB the women were thicker than the few times I have been to FOD. If you have particular tastes then it would be best to stay in Sosua so you will have more to choose from. I have never seen more than maybe 6 girls at FOD and maybe 20 at BB during the bikini contest.
I was at FoD last Thursday early afternoon and counted 13 putas within the one hour I was there. (Perhaps others in rooms with clients?) There were at least as many guys. I meant to enquire how many of them were staying there but I never got round to doing so. I would guess only three or four but could be wrong. I was told that since the new papasan (Pedro?) started there were a lot more Dominicans dropping in. Half the guys seemed Dominican but they were not objectionable. They weren't buying many rounds either, at least while I was there.

Surprisingly lively for early Thursday afternoon.

As Mr Enternational suggests, the chicas were well in the flaca-to-average part of the spectrum. That is a plus for me but I appreciate it may not be so for many mongers. I was talking to a couple of guys staying there who were Barba Negra vets and have lately switched to FoD. In their opinion the selection was the best they had seen there and equal to Barba Negra in quality, if not in quantity. I agree, but be aware the FoD chicas were very casually dressed with no special effort to look "sexy" in respect of clothes, hair or makeup. I much prefer this natural look but, again, others will have different tastes.

The atmosphere is different at FoD from Barba Negra. Entering Barna Negra it is obvious you have entered a brothel. At Field of Dreams it is more like you have walked in on a private party. Service is more "professional" at Barba Negra. At Field of Dreams it is more "amateurish". (But at least on this occasion the mens bano was spotless and with soap, paper and clean towels).

Still no Haitians, though.

[Henry R]

Trip report, where to start?

I just got back from a three week trip to the DR. This was WAY LONGER than I ever wanted to stay in the DR at one time, but the purpose of this trip was to take advantage of 'medical tourism' (or more precisely 'dental tourism') and three weeks was necessary to complete the procedures. The partaking of the chicas along the way was a phenomenal side benefit of the trip. I had all the work done in a clinic in the DR, and with including airfare, hotel, food, transportation and paying for the dental work, I saved a couple thousand dollars over what I was quoted to have the work done in the US. I am extremely satisfied with the outcome and I had a trip I will never forget.

I have been to the DR close to 20 times since late 2006. Over the years I did the novia thing (yes, I was Western Union novio for a bit of time –no more, learned my lesson here) , hit Sosua, BBs and Santiago, but mostly I spent my time on the North Coast. My personal preference in punting is that I like being a spoon fed monger and although I break things up by occasionally visiting Sosua, I like the 'point and click' atmosphere of a place like BBs. This trip I had a lot of time on my hands, I thought I would explore a bit and broaden my horizons in several areas. I decided not to rent a car for my entire trip and I thought this was a good opportunity to try different modes of transport available here.

With this much time on my hands, I knew I could not do my entire stay at BBs. I knew I would get claustrophobic if I did. I also saw this as an opportunity to get a firsthand comparison of BBs to FOD. I booked about a week at BBs and another at FOD. I left things up in the air from there. Let me preface things here by saying I am not a shill for either place, I just am giving you my opinion.

BBs. They were the first DR establishment I visited in 2006. The place was nice back then, but I will tell you John has done nothing but try to improve the place since he bought it. His latest improvements have brought the hotel to an upper mid-level hotel by US standards. They finally have consistent HOT WATER! Nice A / C, very clean rooms and Wi-Fi available in my rooms (all total I had 3 rooms).20 plus girls are available in the afternoon shift and 25-35 chicas in the evening. The evening shift dresses up to the nines and there were a lot of 'doable' chicas available from noon on. The food has improved over the years and I am seeing more locals stopping by to eat as a testament to the improvement. Food prices for dinner average $8-$10. Tim, Cliff and Martha kept the place running smoothly without John being present my entire stay. I got 40. 9 pesos / US dollar from Jenny's and I made use of the local pharmacy and Solo Mia's restaurant. I also took one chica out to Los Tres Coco's in La Roka, a great restaurant 10 minutes from Costambar. When I first started travelling to the DR I got 33 pesos / US dollar and BBs chica rates were 1300 ST / 2500 TLN (about $40/$75 respectively) , today it is 1600 ST / 3000 TLN (about $40/$75 respectively). For the most part, BBs runs like a well-oiled machine. It was a lot rougher around the edges when I first started my travels there.

My biggest complaint, if you want to call it that, is the Costambar Taxi Mafia prices. Once you get to know your way around the DR and how cheap things are, you hate it when you know you are being gouged by paying 'gringo prices'. A Costambar mafia taxi to Puerto Plata clinic was 800 pesos ($20) , PP taxi back to BBS was $10. Motoconcho BBs to PP clinic 300 pesos ($7. 50) , PP motochoncho back to BBs. 75 to 100 pesos (about $2 to $2. 50)

FOD. The hotel itself is set up well. The grounds are manicured and the rooms are clean. The murals of hand painted, half naked women on every flat wall does creep me out, but some of the guys I talked to down there liked the hand crafted aspect of it. To each his own I guess. Jeffrey, Jamie and Pedro run the place. Neecko the Romanian bartender is a hoot and one of the biggest assets of FOD. FOD is completely surrounded by high walls and it sits alone, surrounded by a large field, across from the service entrance to Playa Dorada. Although this hotel is closer to PP and the airport than BBs, you can't get anywhere worthwhile by walking. One afternoon I took a 10 minute walk straight toward the sea cutting through Playa Dorada and I was told I could not use the beach because they were all private. On my walk there and back, Playa Dorada was a ghost town. Playa Dorada ain't what it used to be.

With FOD being somewhat isolated, having high walls and its close proximity to Playa Dorada has some advantages. For those people staying across the street in Playa Dorada, girls are available throughout the day; they can rent a room for a quickie and bypass the hassle and price of Crystals. I ran into another advantage while I was at FOD, there was a crew of guys throwing a semi-private party and it started to get a bit wild. At one point I saw one guy lying on the pool table getting a blow job from one of the chicas in full view of everyone. You won't see that at BBs. Being in a residential community, BBs does not allow nudity in any public areas. Obviously that situation doesn't bother FOD. They can also really crank up the music at night, something FOD can get away with vs. BBs having neighbors close by.

FODs location provides disadvantages in that if you want to do most anything off site, change money, get food, buy Cialis, anything else, you need to catch a ride. I was able to turn this disadvantage into a plus as I finally learned how to use the gua-gua's (local public transport). I caught the gua-gua in front of FOD for a 25 minute ride to Sosua for 100 pesos each way. It cost 30 pesos to catch a ride to the Puerto Plata clinic. Yes, you are stuffed in either a Toyota Corolla with 7 other Dominicans or a minivan with 19 of your closest friends, but really it is an experience and it is safe.

From my point of view, FOD is a nice place for a short stay, one, no more than two nights. The place reminds me a lot of how BBs used to be a long time ago. They have not worked out all the kinks. All the drama of the place works out in front of you if you stay there for any length of time. Jamie runs around like a chicken with his head cut off handling the problem of the moment. Rules are made up and broken on the spot by Jamie and Pedro. Maria is supposed to be the Mamason, but then Pedro says he is the Papason. The girls seem to playing the guys all the time. Jamie takes a chica of his choice to his room every night for the privilege of the chica keeping her job. Pedro jokes that he (Jamie) is 'quality control' for the chicas. The lunch and dinner plates are more expensive than BBs. Their menu is more limited and they don't have all the items listed on it. One night I asked for lasagna ('sorry, we are out') , then the pork steak from their signature dishes page ('sorry, we are out') , before settling on the bacon cheeseburger (that is one of their best selections).

Some of these comparisons / observations may be knit-picky, but here goes. When I first arrived, I had to get the girl who checked me in to fix things in my room so my TV would turn on, so my toilet would flush (it was plugged up) and show me how to turn on the air conditioner. It turns out the air conditioner in my room has a wall switch that turns it on or off, with no temperature control available. When I turned it on to go to bed at night, it would wake me up at about 4 am as it got too cold, it had iced up and was making that fan blade hitting ice noise. Even on a cool morning I still had to turn on the air conditioner when my room got stuffy, as there is only one window and no cross ventilation in my room. Not every room has a mini-fridge, which I miss a lot, especially if I get thirsty in the middle of the night. They have no clear cut ways to use the 'house phone' and you kind of have to muddle through it all yourself. Nowhere was I told or was it written that the chicas have an agreed to price of 1600 and 3000, just like BBs, but you can negotiate if you want to. No matter where you go, chica quality is always up for personal taste, as well as 'luck of the draw', but I was there for over a week and although there were always 10 to 20 chicas available, but to my taste, there were really only about 4 or five chicas that were 'doable'. The girls seem a lot 'hungrier' than BBs and I found myself locked in my room at times to keep from being pestered by the chicas for a date when I wanted to be left alone. This 'hunger' is a double edged sword as those few chicas I did choose to be with gave me a very high level of service. I like having ambient lighting while I am doing the deed with my chica, and BBs has small lamps off to the side that are perfect for that. At FOD their only lighting was the main overhead lights and I just didn't like the atmosphere it created (again, some of this may be knit-picky).

I realize this may sound like an advert for BBs, and in a way I guess it is. Really I am glad there is a place like FOD out there as it creates some competition for BBs and competition is a good thing. I wonder how long it would have been for BBs to get flat screen TVs had it not been for FOD? FOD reminds me a lot of BBs from years ago, but a bit more disorganized. It is going to take FOD a while to get things down pat and to find its niche. FOD is not BBs 'lite', nor should it be. Since I have been going down to the DR I have seen FOD change hands too many times, but I really think this time they have a chance to make it work. If for no other reason than Playa Dorada no longer has the pull that it used to.

PS: I have purposefully stayed off the boards and away from the punting community for a few years now. Life circumstances have pushed me out of the workforce and into an early retirement, thus causing a dramatic shift in my punting priorities / opportunities. Right or wrong, I chose not to communicate with even good friends over the years from the board as I dealt (and am dealing) with these changes. It was just too hard to juggle real life with my fantasy (mongering) life. My apologies to those I have intentionally ignored (you know who you are). I am only rejoining the conversation here on ISG as I have again been able to partake in our shared hobby on a limited basis and I have a few observations I thought I should share with the board. 'Nuff said on that subject.I stayed at FOD last Fall, and I fully agree with several of your comments. Here are the notes I took last Fall. I didn't know about the gua-guas (public transport) at the time. Otherwise I could've gotten around more. I never got around to posting my notes until now, but they were written long before I read your post:

I was at Field of Dreams (FOD) once for a few days last Fall (2012). So what I write may be somewhat outdated now. Some things were good, some weren't. Here is what I thought:

I thought the owners and staff were friendly and helpful.

The room and restaurant were OK, and the swimming pool was nice.

The satellite TVs shut off when it rained though. I heard satellite TVs had more problems with rain here than in the US.

I thought there were 2 or 3 good looking girls and a few others who were just OK. Most were not my type.

(I had heard about the not so great quality of the girls before I went, but one of the owners wrote on this forum, before I left for my trip, that the quality was improving, with new and better looking girls arriving everyday. If so, I didn't see them). But I was only there for a few days, so a couple of lookers were enough. And the two lookers I was with, for a few hours, were very good!

My main complaint was the isolation. There was no store or restaurant within walking distance. (At the time, last Fall, there was a restaurant a block away on the main road, to the left, but it was closed, with a "for rent" sign on it).

It is important for me to have a convenience store nearby to buy things. Also, Playa Dorado Hotel and it's beach and its disco were not within walking distance either. And taking taxis there or to stores everyday would be expensive. So personally I would not spend more than a few days at FOD, because of the isolation, if having stores or restaurants or beaches or discos within walking distance is important to you.

I have never been to Blackbeards (BBs), but I heard that there are stores, restaurants and a beach all within a short walking distance. Kind of funny, because I had read a post on this forum, before my trip, that BBs was isolated and FOD was not. It's probably the opposite. But that poster may have meant that FOD is closer to Sosua and Puerto Plata than BBs is.

Finally, a tourist I met at FOD, who had also stayed at BBs, complained that very few girls at FOD will spend the whole night with a customer. He said that all the girls at BBs will spend the whole night with a customer.

[Frannie]

I have never been to Blackbeards (BBs), but I heard that there are stores, restaurants and a beach all within a short walking distance. Kind of funny, because I had read a post on this forum, before my trip, that BBs was isolated and FOD was not. It's probably the opposite. But that poster may have meant that FOD is closer to Sosua and Puerto Plata than BBs is.This point has been disputed for a decade. When I first visited the DR I stayed at BB and my main concern before I came was that I had read that it was "in the middle of nowhere". It isn't, but FOD is. The Playa Dorada stores and beach ARE within walking distance, sort of, but it is quite a walk in hot weather.

Of course it all depends on your definition of "middle of nowhere". To people used to living in a large city, a village like Costambar is "the middle of nowhere", because it is not close to big city amenities. To others, including myself,"the middle of nowhere" would mean that there is no other building within close walking distance-which would describe Field of Dreams.

[Tempoecorto]

This point has been disputed for a decade. When I first visited the DR I stayed at BB and my main concern before I came was that I had read that it was "in the middle of nowhere". It isn't, but FOD is. The Playa Dorada stores and beach ARE within walking distance, sort of, but it is quite a walk in hot weather.

Of course it all depends on your definition of "middle of nowhere". To people used to living in a large city, a village like Costambar is "the middle of nowhere", because it is not close to big city amenities. To others, including myself,"the middle of nowhere" would mean that there is no other building within close walking distance-which would describe Field of Dreams.Interesting! I discovered BB last October by accident. I had encountered a woman on Facebook from PP who used to work in some hotel around and so when I told her I would like to see costambar beaches, she told me "sure. Next time when you are around". In October, she guided me. We drove in my car, from PP center. Actually Caribe Express. All the way to the outskirts of PP and where the UASD campus is, we veered to the right and after some boondocks, got to the so-called Costambar gates where a guard waved us in. Inside, she and I drove around a bit when I spied Blackbeards which was smack in the middle of a bunch of houses while I had imagined it to be in some kind of Island of Dr. Moreaux, LOL, far from anything. Then we went to the beach for lunch and as it so happened, bumped into an American woman, a Canadian woman, a Dutch woman, married to a Domenican, who owned the restaurant, all my age group. In short one man and 4 women including the young woman I was with who spoke English well. We had a good fun time chatting together before I and the woman I was with, left for a cabana, there was one close by on the way out of the city that she guided me to.

I do not know what is "walkable" distance for others but I thought the beach from Blackbeards is eminently walkable and around the gate, there were stores and such. If I recall correctly.

[Charles Pooter]

Of course it all depends on your definition of "middle of nowhere".For me it is a question of cheap and convenient access to interesting locations (beaches, bars, stores, banks, Sosua, Montellano, Pto Pta city, Malecon, Cabarete and points east, etc.) Field of Dreams qualifies, Blackbeards doesn't.

But as you say, there is no right and wrong about it. It depends what your priorities are. For example, someone just posted that one his priorities is proximity to a convenience store. I have stayed a total of seven months at Field of Dreams over the years and cannot remember ever needing one urgently. Though if I did there is a supermarket and choice of half dozen colmados not more than 15 minutes away, which I guess is about the time it takes to walk to Wendy's from Blackbeards? No supermarkets or banks in Costambar.

I do remember a starving haitiana and I wanted pizza at 3. 00am in the morning at Field of Dreams and we went out and bought one and were back eating it in bed within 40 minutes at the additional cost of 120 pesos for transport. Best of luck with that at Blackbeards.

[Shamester]

Are there any flights from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince?

[Mr Enternational]

Are there any flights from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince?Not sure if there would be a market for that. Google: flights POP PAP

[Charles Pooter]

Are there any flights from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince?I wish.

Awkward trip from Pto Plata to Potoprens whether you go via Santo Domingo or via Okap.

I once knew a puta from Cristal who flew from Pto Pta to Potoprens in a privately chartered light plane on her own dime (though sharing with three other passengers). Not suggesting she did that regularly though. Probably had just enjoyed a profitable couple of weeks with a high-roller.

[Frannie]

I do remember a starving haitiana and I wanted pizza at 3. 00am in the morning at Field of Dreams and we went out and bought one and were back eating it in bed within 40 minutes at the additional cost of 120 pesos for transport. Best of luck with that at Blackbeards.It can be difficult to transport a pizza on a motoconcho. I did not know you can get one in Puerto Plata at 3:00 a. M, but then at that hour I am tucked up in bed. Blackbeards is or was just down the road from a pizzeria, but not an all night place. Field of Dreams rules when it comes to 3:00 a. M. Pizza.

There is a new place on the Malecon where you can get handmade Italian pizza and other fine foods made by a Neapolitan. But not at 3:00 a. M, I think.

[Frannie]

Are there any flights from Puerto Plata to Port au Prince?Yes, but you have to change planes at Miami.

[Bliadun]

One near the entrance to Costambar (good one) ,10-15 minutes walk from BB, this one with really good exchange rate.

Another one on the beach (not so good) ,5-10 minutes walk from BB.


For me it is a question of cheap and convenient access to interesting locations (beaches, bars, stores, banks, Sosua, Montellano, Pto Pta city, Malecon, Cabarete and points east, etc.) Field of Dreams qualifies, Blackbeards doesn't.

But as you say, there is no right and wrong about it. It depends what your priorities are. For example, someone just posted that one his priorities is proximity to a convenience store. I have stayed a total of seven months at Field of Dreams over the years and cannot remember ever needing one urgently. Though if I did there is a supermarket and choice of half dozen colmados not more than 15 minutes away, which I guess is about the time it takes to walk to Wendy's from Blackbeards? No supermarkets or banks in Costambar.

I do remember a starving haitiana and I wanted pizza at 3. 00am in the morning at Field of Dreams and we went out and bought one and were back eating it in bed within 40 minutes at the additional cost of 120 pesos for transport. Best of luck with that at Blackbeards.

[Charles Pooter]

One near the entrance to Costambar (good one) .10-15 minutes walk from BB, this one with really good exchange rate.

Another one on the beach (not so good) 5-10 minutes walk from BB.I was talking about a real supermarket with maybe 40 staff, a bank, a WU branch, a Claro branch, an Orange branch, a restaurant with wi-fi, repairs service, etc, etc, not a mom & pop store. Not a big deal to me, but maybe to the recent poster for whom shopping features high on his priority list.

[Bliadun]

Big ones are La Sirena and Tropical Supermarket, but the prices are not really worth 800 pesos taxi cost from Costambar.


I was talking about a real supermarket with maybe 40 staff, a bank, a WU branch, a Claro branch, an Orange branch, a restaurant with wi-fi, repairs service, etc, etc, not a mom & pop store. Not a big deal to me, but maybe to the recent poster for whom shopping features high on his priority list.

[Charles Pooter]

Big ones are La Sirena and Tropical Supermarket, but the prices are not really worth 800 pesos taxi cost from Costambar.This is exactly the point I was trying to make. The discussion was whether either Field of Dreams or Blackbeards is in "the middle of nowhere". It comes up frequently on this and other boards. If money is no object you can get to anywhere you want to go from Blackbeards by taking (as you accurately post) a 800 pesos and upwards return trip in a private taxi. You can get to most of the same places from Field of Dreams with a 60 to 100 peso return trip on public transport. (Though not by motoconcho, as Frannie assumed. I wouldn't recommend taking a moto for any distance along the main highway. Also they are not always easy to find outside Field of Dreams).

For some posters here that 700 peso difference means nothing for a bit of comfort and convenience. Most are on a tighter budget and would prefer to spend it on pussy rather than enrich the Costambar taxi mafiosos.

If you are with a group of three or four guys, then it is not an issue as taxis charge per distance and time and not per person, so even the expensive Costambar taxis become reasonable per person.

The supermarket I was referring to with all the facilities, which you could reach from Field of Dreams in the same amount of time as it takes to walk to Wendy's (have I got the name right?) from Blackbeards, is Jose Luis.

[Manizales911]

This is exactly the point I was trying to make. The discussion was whether either Field of Dreams or Blackbeards is in "the middle of nowhere". It comes up frequently on this and other boards. If money is no object you can get to anywhere you want to go from Blackbeards by taking (as you accurately post) a 800 pesos and upwards return trip in a private taxi. You can get to most of the same places from Field of Dreams with a 60 to 100 peso return trip on public transport. (Though not by motoconcho, as Frannie assumed. I wouldn't recommend taking a moto for any distance along the main highway. Also they are not always easy to find outside Field of Dreams).

For some posters here that 700 peso difference means nothing for a bit of comfort and convenience. Most are on a tighter budget and would prefer to spend it on pussy rather than enrich the Costambar taxi mafiosos.

If you are with a group of three or four guys, then it is not an issue as taxis charge per distance and time and not per person, so even the expensive Costambar taxis become reasonable per person.

The supermarket I was referring to with all the facilities, which you could reach from Field of Dreams in the same amount of time as it takes to walk to Wendy's (have I got the name right?) from Blackbeards, is Jose Luis.Charles, you are assuming that most mongers staying at FOD would use publicos for their transportation needs but the fact is that they don't. That said, mongers that care about keeping there expenses in check on the north coast should learn the public transportation system or else you will get fucked by the taxistas, plain and simple.

My opinion as a person that has stayed at both places multiple times both places are "in the middle of nowhere" for different reasons for different types of mongers, hence the reason for the ongoing debate.

Jenny's market in Costambar is small in size but has just about anything for someone staying there, they have tailored their inventory to meet the immediate needs of residents and certainly the needs of the folks staying at BB's and the other couple of hotels / apartments in Costambar. There are plenty of restaurants in Costambar and a few cool bars and of course the beach and a golf course, all within walking distance or a relatively safe motoconcho ride for the lazy like me. Getting to Sosua or Puerto Plata is expensive by taxi or one needs to take a motoconcho to reach the main road to catch a publico for those that are willing and able.

FOD on the other hand is on the main road so it is easy to catch publicos for those that are willing and able otherwise you will take a taxi everywhere, restaurants, bars, markets, etc. Nothing is within an easy walk and the only thing that is within a difficult walk is Play Dorada, there you will have stores to pick up necessities and restaurants but you will pay through the ass big time, and the taxis in Playa Dorada are as bad as the taxis in Costambar, thieves.

Just my dos centavos.

[Charles Pooter]

My opinion as a person that has stayed at both places multiple times both places are "in the middle of nowhere" for different reasons for different types of mongers, hence the reason for the ongoing debate.Totally agree, and that is all I have been saying all along. Different strokes for different folks. No need for the continued pissing up the wall contest. Same goes for the equally stupid "which is better, Blackbeards or Sosua?" vendetta to which the answer is, equally,"It depends what your priorities are."


Jenny's market in Costambar.That's the one. Sorry I got the name wrong. (Long time since I have been to Costambar. Too far off the beaten track. LOL.)


. the taxis in Playa Dorada are as bad as the taxis in Costambar, thieves.Indeed, but they were not relevant to my post. No-one at Field of Dreams need call a Playa Dorada taxi. The private city taxis in Puerto Plata are very reasonably priced. I think the minimum is 150 pesos and you can go quite a long way for that.


Charles, you are assuming that most mongers staying at FOD would use publicos for their transportation needs but the fact is that they don't. That said, mongers that care about keeping there expenses in check on the north coast should learn the public transportation system or else you will get fucked by the taxistas, plain and simple.

Sadly true. Some are too nervous or too snobbish to use publicos, but most don't use them simply because they are not aware of them or don't know how they work. Hotels owners are slow to instruct them because they receive a commission or, at least, goodwill from calling cabs.

I am no longer much use on this earth but one of my remaining roles is to show newbie mongers how to make best use of the public transport system to save lots of money. I have done so many times and guys have generally been very grateful.

[Manizales911]

Indeed, but they were not relevant to my post. No-one at Field of Dreams need call a Playa Dorada taxi. The private city taxis in Puerto Plata are very reasonably priced. I think the minimum is 150 pesos and you can go quite a long way for that.I only mentioned the Playa Dorada taxis for those that decide after walking from FOD to Playa Dorada in the brutal mid day sun that want to return via taxi that they will pay about double the normal cost.

Charles, I would welcome your help in learning more about utilizing the publicos. I use them out of Sosua quite often but not from the main road in Puerto Plata. I am traveling to the DR with an acquaintance of yours and a good friend of Billy's in June, possibly staying at FOD, I'll buy you lunch and drinks though I know you aren't much of a boozer.

[Orgasmico]

Anyone know the routes of the Puerto Plata city guaguas, the ones with big letters in the front windows (they range from "A" to "H" if I am correct)?

[Frannie]

Anyone know the routes of the Puerto Plata city guaguas, the ones with big letters in the front windows (they range from "A" to "H" if I am correct)?There are carros too that use the letter system. I think "C" is Playa Dorada, and then there is one for Maimon and another for Cofresi, but most of them have the place name posted too. If in doubt you can always hail the vehicle and ask.

[Henry R]

Adding to what I wrote last week about FOD being isolated. I just wanted a convenience store, and maybe some restaurants, within walking distance and I didn't see any near FOD. I didn't need a big supermarket, since I wasn't going to be there for a long time. Also, I walked to the Playa Dorado hotel one night to check out their disco, and it was further away than I expected. It was certainly not a short walk. And it felt a little scary walking there at night, since it was so deserted. And some of the FOD girls had warned me that it's dangerous walking around the area at night, so I turned back before I got there. I could have split cab fare if I was with others, but I was alone, so taking cabs everyday would get expensive. And I didn't know about the gua guas at the time. I can't compare this to BBs because I've never been there.

Also, is what I heard true that all the girls at BBs will spend the whole night, but very few at FOD will?

[Rock29]

Will be staying at a all inclusive in Playa Dorada with friends. Would like to get off resort during the day for some action. Any suggestions?

[Mr Enternational]

Will be staying at a all inclusive in Playa Dorada with friends. Would like to get off resort during the day for some action. Any suggestions?Have you no shame? Start out by reading the forum. For goodness sake the guy who posted right before you answered your question before you even asked.

[Frannie]

Will be staying at a all inclusive in Playa Dorada with friends. Would like to get off resort during the day for some action. Any suggestions?Tell a taxi driver to take you to where the chicas are.

[Charles Pooter]

Tell a taxi driver to take you to where the chicas are.There was another group of guys staying there recently with whom I exchanged emails. They did exactly that and were happy with their holidays. Reading between the lines I think they had a large budget, and convenience was more important to them than saving money.

But if you guys are on a budget, that is a bad plan. Taxis in Playa Dorada are expensive and they will take you where the chicas are expensive (Cocoa Club, Cristal, etc). Also everywhere they take you they will get a commission which will be added to your bill.

The short answer to your question, and to keep costs very reasonable, is to walk through the Playa Dorada grounds (pleasant, safe. 15 minute walk) to Field of Dreams. That will keep you amused for three or four days at an affordable price. Anything else and you will either pay a lot more money or you will need some knowledge as to how to get around on the cheap.

[MS Clive]

Have you no shame? Start out by reading the forum. For goodness sake the guy who posted right before you answered your question before you even asked.Mr Enternational. There is a time lag. From we posting to the report actually getting posted on the forum. Hence maybe it was not possible for him to read the reply before posting.

[Charles Pooter]

Mr Enternational. There is a time lag. From we posting to the report actually getting posted on the forum. Hence maybe it was not possible for him to read the reply before posting.You didn't read Mr Enternational's post carefully enough.

I agree with his implication. Why should we help those who are too lazy to help themselves by at least reading the more recent posts? These will usually answer a lot of their questions, or at least help them to formulate more precise questions. If they assume their time is more valuable than ours, fuck 'them.

[Charles Pooter]

Will be staying at a all inclusive in Playa Dorada with friends. Would like to get off resort during the day for some action. Any suggestions?Is it just you who wants to escape from Gulag Playa Dorada or a group of mongers? If the former, using taxis can get real expensive. Shared between three or four guys, not so much.

I am always willing to try and help solo guys on a budget find their way round Puerto Plata cheaply, but if a group of guys are splashing the cash they don't need my help and I have better things to do.

[Charles Pooter]

Will be staying at a all inclusive in Playa Dorada with friends. Would like to get off resort during the day for some action. Any suggestions?Just looked at your previous 6 posts. You were asking all the same questions a year ago and they were all answered. (At my age I am the one who is supposed to have memory problems). Have you forgotten everything you did or did you totally ignore our advice? Or did you not actually turn up last year? You are either a troll or one of the most helpless mongers here.

[Lopkx]

As we all will someday. If El Capitan, BB owner, with his failing health eventually passes away. Who will own BB? Sometimes when there's change of leadership everything goes downhill.

[Traveler04]

If I have learned anything about the owner of BB's over the past 8 years is he is a very smart man. I am sure he has a backup plan in the event of an incapacitating health situation.

Best of health old friend!

[Ath Trainer]

As we all will someday. If El Capitan, BB owner, with his failing health eventually passes away. Who will own BB? Sometimes when there's change of leadership everything goes downhill.And, sometimes things get better with new leadership. Only time will tell.

[Phaedrus42]

Contrary to what some mongers think (and I have no idea where that came from.) , the girls at FOD are very happy to do an overnight. What I should state is that due to our schedule, which allows the girls with children to know in advance when they are expected to be on-site, SOME chicas may not be available every night. But, in general, overnights are both available as well desired by our girls.

[Grub1]

Is all the girls available for take out day or night at fod

[Manizales911]

Is all the girls available for take out day or night at fodYou have to pay a $20. USD multa to FOD to take a girl off premises plus whatever fee that the girl charges.

[Charles Pooter]

Is all the girls available for take out day or night at fodHere we go again.

Why not ask all the other questions while you are at it?

Can I take girls from Passions into Blackbeards?

Can I take girls from Blackbeards to my hotel in Sosua?

Can I take girls from FoD into Blackbeards and vice versa?

Seriously, why would you want to take girls out Of Field of Dreams? You are already paying a small premium for the convenience of having them on the premises, why pay a sizable surcharge to take them out? Where would you be taking them to? How about a cabana, then you could add another 600 pesos to your expenses?

For me the main strength of Field of Dreams is that it is a safe, gringo-standard, chica-friendly place to take independent chicas (whether pros or semi-pros) into.

Mongering in the DR can be so simple and cheap. Why complicate everything?

[Manizales911]

Here we go again.

Why not ask all the other questions while you are at it?

Can I take girls from Passions into Blackbeards?

Can I take girls from Blackbeards to my hotel in Sosua?

Can I take girls from FoD into Blackbeards and vice versa?

Seriously, why would you want to take girls out Of Field of Dreams? You are already paying a small premium for the convenience of having them on the premises, why pay a sizable surcharge to take them out? Where would you be taking them to? How about a cabana, then you could add another 600 pesos to your expenses?

For me the main strength of Field of Dreams is that it is a safe, gringo-standard, chica-friendly place to take independent chicas (whether pros or semi-pros) into.

Mongering in the DR can be so simple and cheap. Why complicate everything?Not everyone wants to spend their days inside the walled compound like they are in a prison. Maybe they want company to dinner at a restaurant or a day at the beach or a night out drinking and dancing. Personally, I would much rather have a Dominican h00ker accommodate me for a night on the town than some gringo that I might have to babysit and translate for all night.

The reason I knew the answer to Grub1's question is I recently inquired about taking a girl out. One of the girls that is currently working at FOD I have known for seven years. In addition to having a "working" relationship we are also friends. We go out to various bars, clubs and restaurants and hang out with mutual friends in various barrios shooting the shit and drinking. This may be foreign behavior to most but not all.

Though I understand why FOD has the $20. Multa it sucks for a guy like me that doesn't hang out at the hotel 24/7. That and the fact that the only way to reserve a room is a bank wire transfer, fuck that.

[Llttf]

Not everyone wants to spend their days inside the walled compound like they are in a prison. Maybe they want company to dinner at a restaurant or a day at the beach or a night out drinking and dancing. Personally, I would much rather have a Dominican h00ker accommodate me for a night on the town than some gringo that I might have to babysit and translate for all night.

The reason I knew the answer to Grub1's question is I recently inquired about taking a girl out. One of the girls that is currently working at FOD I have known for seven years. In addition to having a "working" relationship we are also friends. We go out to various bars, clubs and restaurants and hang out with mutual friends in various barrios shooting the shit and drinking. This may be foreign behavior to most but not all.

Though I understand why FOD has the $20. Multa it sucks for a guy like me that doesn't hang out at the hotel 24/7. That and the fact that the only way to reserve a room is a bank wire transfer, fuck that.If you know this girl as a friend why not just arrange to meet her somewhere as you would any other friend. I understand all the girls at FOD ar FLing so it is not like they have to be there fixed hours.

[Charles Pooter]

I must admit I assumed Grub1 would not be resident at FoD, perhaps wrongly. I totally accept Manizales point that a resident might not want to stay on campus and might like to take a chica out to dine or dance. But then Manizales would not have needed to ask the question because he already knows the score.

And as Littf suggests, if you are that friendly with the chica you could arrange to meet outside when she is off-duty. But I get the impression Grub1 has no existing friendship with FoD chicas.

If I were a resident I would resent having to pay a take-out charge. Plenty of equally nice girls outside who would like to be wined and dined or go dancing and they would not necessarily be putas. That is where FoD has one advantage over Blackbeards. Easier and cheaper to get into town to restaurants and dance-halls, and much easier and cheaper to get back at night.

[Charles Pooter]

I understand all the girls at FOD ar FLing so it is not like they have to be there fixed hours.I believe they do have to give some sort of commitment nowadays. They can no longer wander in and out as they please. But if the management could not be flexible and re-schedule a chica's hours for a good client it would be short-sighted of them.

[Charles Pooter]

Personally, I would much rather have a Dominican h00ker accommodate me for a night on the town than some gringo that I might have to babysit and translate for all night.You and me both, although in my case it would be a haitiana and preferably a semi-pro rather than one of Field of Dreams' finest.

But, amazingly, many guys prefer the company of other guys. It seems to be an American thing. Europeans and Canadians not so much. I refrain from probing deeper into this mentality. They place immense value on the company of "wingmen","my boy (s)" and "bros before hoes".

[Manizales911]

That is where FoD has one advantage over Blackbeards. Easier and cheaper to get into town to restaurants and dance-halls, and much easier and cheaper to get back at night.That is exactly why I will be staying at FOD on my upcoming trip if they have rooms available which most likely won't be a problem.

[Tempoecorto]

Here we go again.Long live Charles Pooter. I could not stop laughing.

[Tempoecorto]

The reason I knew the answer to Grub1's question is I recently inquired about taking a girl out. One of the girls that is currently working at FOD I have known for seven years. In addition to having a "working" relationship we are also friends. We go out to various bars, clubs and restaurants and hang out with mutual friends in various barrios shooting the shit and drinking. This may be foreign behavior to most but not all.That would be an interesting exercise for me. Hanging out in various barrios bit. But I do not know any pros, never having cultivated it in Sosua.

[Frannie]

You and me both, although in my case it would be a haitiana and preferably a semi-pro rather than one of Field of Dreams' finest.

But, amazingly, many guys prefer the company of other guys."Why can't a woman be more like a man?" [Henry Higgins: from My Fair Lady]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doz5w2W-jAY

[Tempoecorto]

"Why can't a woman be more like a man?" [Henry Higgins: from My Fair Lady]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doz5w2W-jAYGood one Frannie! Good old GBS.

As a person who travels alone, the question of "wing. What" is somewhat difficult to understand. Perhaps it is the fear of the unknown or bragging right to a high five?

[Manizales911]

That would be an interesting exercise for me. Hanging out in various barrios bit. But I do not know any pros, never having cultivated it in Sosua.The majority of pros I wouldn't even think of befriending let alone hang out with in their barrio but having been with hundreds over the many years that I have traveled to the DR I have met a handful that were real nice people, again, a handful out of hundreds. But that is enough for me, I'm not into the Sosua sport fuck scene anymore. I'll go to Sosua to party and shack up there as well because Puerto Plata doesn't have any hotels that meet my standards outside of FOD but I much rather be in Puerto Plata than Sosua these days.

I would strongly suggest to anyone new to the DR to keep close contact with any girls that they feel are "special" for whatever reason as they seem to be shrinking in numbers and there will be a day where you will tire of the chase for good service. My "little black book" is my most precious possession. And don't rely on that $15. Dominican phone to hold that info either. Cloud storage or something similar is the only way to go.

[Tempoecorto]

I would strongly suggest to anyone new to the DR to keep close contact with any girls that they feel are "special" for whatever reason as they seem to be shrinking in numbers and there will be a day where you will tire of the chase for good service. My "little black book" is my most precious possession. And don't rely on that $15. Dominican phone to hold that info either. Cloud storage or something similar is the only way to go.Thanks. Valid points. Long before cloud computing became mass, I have used ftp to keep file copies in several locations. At least on one occasion, there was a fire but it did not create the havoc you would expect with such major data-loss.

[Henry R]

Contrary to what some mongers think (and I have no idea where that came from.) , the girls at FOD are very happy to do an overnight. What I should state is that due to our schedule, which allows the girls with children to know in advance when they are expected to be on-site, SOME chicas may not be available every night. But, in general, overnights are both available as well desired by our girls.To answer your question about where that came from, which is: where I heard that girls at FOD will not spend the whole night.

I met a guest while staying at FOD. He had been staying there a while. He said he also had stayed at BBs. He told me that very few of the girls at FOD would spend the whole night, but all the girls at BBs will. He said he had asked a number of girls at FOD, but very few would spend the whole night. I don't know why he would say that if it weren't true. He didn't come across to me as a BS artist. This is a guess, but maybe he had only asked the more attractive ones, and didn't ask the others, who may have been the ones willing to do all night.

[Bliadun]

Most of them at BB will do all night, but it will depend on the day, number of customers, children situation, your attractiveness, time you want to start TLN.


To answer your question about where that came from, which is: where I heard that girls at FOD will not spend the whole night.

I met a guest while staying at FOD. He had been staying there a while. He said he also had stayed at BBs. He told me that very few of the girls at FOD would spend the whole night, but all the girls at BBs will. He said he had asked a number of girls at FOD, but very few would spend the whole night. I don't know why he would say that if it weren't true. He didn't come across to me as a BS artist. This is a guess, but maybe he had only asked the more attractive ones, and didn't ask the others, who may have been the ones willing to do all night.

[Manizales911]

Most of them at BB will do all night, but it will depend on the day, number of customers, children situation, your attractiveness, time you want to start TLN.Interesting, I never had a girl at BB's tell me that she couldn't do TLN, I didn't think they were allowed to say "no" but I could be wrong about that. I'll be curious as to what other BB vets have experienced.

[FunTrust]

Gentleman, Thanks for your reports.

Due to my SO, I don't think she will let me go, so I have enjoyed reading your reports. I am from Southern California, so we do have fun options but I would love to find a place like BB, FOD to sneak off for a few days. That I could manage. I don't think there are any, unless its for a closed ethnic group; but nothing for the average white guy looking for fun.

One thing if someone has time, I see FOD has two plans, one girl for 24 hours unlimited and then ala carte rentals. What are your thoughts on that. I am not going, but would like to dream about what I would do in your shoes.

Stay safe, use sunblock.

Fun

[Bliadun]

They can always find an excuse, such as a sick child or a previous arrangement.

Even if you talk to mamasan and make chica stay, your expirience with chica might be not so good.

As I've heard, infamous Johanny did not like TLN, but she were able to squeeze all your leche in less than 2 hours LOL.

Anyway, most of them will actually prefer TLN 9 times out of 10.


Interesting, I never had a girl at BB's tell me that she couldn't do TLN, I didn't think they were allowed to say "no" but I could be wrong about that. I'll be curious as to what other BB vets have experienced.

[Yanqui69]

Interesting, I never had a girl at BB's tell me that she couldn't do TLN, I didn't think they were allowed to say "no" but I could be wrong about that. I'll be curious as to what other BB vets have experienced.The only time I ever encountered that problem was, coincidentally with Yohanny, when her last child was still an infant. She wanted to be home with the baby, which of course I understood. Many times the reason has to do with kids at home etc. I would not advise forcing the issue, since it would more than likely affect the girl's attitude, performance, etc.

[OldKool]

I am so jealous yohanni is legiondary. I have been to BB twice and Yohanny was not there. I understand she is nolonger working. All that talent/


The only time I ever encountered that problem was, coincidentally with Yohanny, when her last child was still an infant. She wanted to be home with the baby, which of course I understood. Many times the reason has to do with kids at home etc. I would not advise forcing the issue, since it would more than likely affect the girl's attitude, performance, etc.

[Grub1]

You and me both, although in my case it would be a haitiana and preferably a semi-pro rather than one of Field of Dreams' finest.

But, amazingly, many guys prefer the company of other guys. It seems to be an American thing. Europeans and Canadians not so much. I refrain from probing deeper into this mentality. They place immense value on the company of "wingmen","my boy (s)" and "bros before hoes".Who wants to talk about it with the boy's we all need to be fucking all we can while on our holiday.

[OldKool]

I had 2 wingmen on my last trip. After 5 days I wanted to ditch them both. They were not close friends of mine but aquiantances. At the end of the day solo is better for me.


Who wants to talk about it with the boy's we all need to be fucking all we can while on our holiday.

[Yanqui69]

I am so jealous yohanni is legiondary. I have been to BB twice and Yohanny was not there. I understand she is nolonger working. All that talent/My chief regret is I only went there once. On a scale of 1 to 10, she was 11.

[AlwaysHorny 2]

Traveling by publico or gua gua from Sosua, where should I get dropped off so I could catch a taxi / moto to La Sirena? This is assuming that it will not be walking distance.

Thanks!

[Frannie]

Traveling by publico or gua gua from Sosua, where should I get dropped off so I could catch a taxi / moto to La Sirena? This is assuming that it will not be walking distance.

Thanks!You could ask them to drop you off at the Palacio de Justicia and you can get a moto from there. Either the moto will go direct down Calle Beller to the back gate of La Sirena, or you could ask them to take the scenic route along the Malecon, which is a little longer. La Sirena is located on the Malecon.

[OldKool]

That is what everybody says. Iam so sad I never jumped those bones. I may still track her down cash is still king in the DR.


My chief regret is I only went there once. On a scale of 1 to 10, she was 11.

[Bliadun]

I miss her. She was an ultimate puta, not a GFE.

She was not a beautiful and sweet, but her skills probably the best I've ever experienced.

Very professional 3 holer with knowledge of monger's psychology LOL! I've overheard some psychological tips she was giving to the other chica during threesome.

I've heard 2 different versions of what happened to her:

1. She owns a beauty salon.

2. She got married to some former customer.

Or maybe both at the same time.

Rumors are, she might be available sometimes. Anyone knows if it's true?


I am so jealous yohanni is legiondary. I have been to BB twice and Yohanny was not there. I understand she is nolonger working. All that talent/

[Charles Pooter]

You could ask them to drop you off at the Palacio de Justicia and you can get a moto from there. Either the moto will go direct down Calle Beller to the back gate of La Sirena, or you could ask them to take the scenic route along the Malecon, which is a little longer. La Sirena is located on the Malecon.Or you could just stay on the carro publico on its long loop through the town and back towards Sosua then get out near the back entrance of la Sirena. Take you twenty minutes longer but save 25 peso moto fare. Only worth doing if you enjoy the ride or hate riding motos. But Frannie's is the most practical idea.

[Tempoecorto]

A girl from Santiago I know has had an accident and lost part of one of her incisors. The dentist suggested root canal and crown etc. I wonder what according to your dentists, this could potentially cost. I do not want her to lose the tooth. For a young woman, that is important and it is a front tooth. Please help with your thoughts and suggestions. She has sent me some pictures which if necessary can be sent too privately.

Thanks in advance

[Yanqui69]

I miss her. She was an ultimate puta, not a GFE.

She was not a beautiful and sweet, but her skills probably the best I've ever experienced.

Very professional 3 holer with knowledge of monger's psychology LOL! I've overheard some psychological tips she was giving to the other chica during threesome.

I've heard 2 different versions of what happened to her:

1. She owns a beauty salon.

2. She got married to some former customer.

Or maybe both at the same time.

Rumors are, she might be available sometimes. Anyone knows if it's true?A friend was in POP recently and saw her very briefly having lunch with a guy. Said she seemed very relaxed and was content running a nail salon out of her house. If so, I wish her the best. Like a boxer, its good if a chica can leave the profession on her terms and before she's well over the hill.

Its a (hopefully) short-lived career, to make some money, leave, and go have a life.

[Negro562]

A girl from Santiago I know has had an accident and lost part of one of her incisors. The dentist suggested root canal and crown etc. I wonder what according to your dentists, this could potentially cost. I do not want her to lose the tooth. For a young woman, that is important and it is a front tooth. Please help with your thoughts and suggestions. She has sent me some pictures which if necessary can be sent too privately.

Thanks in advanceThat should cost about $300 US to fix. She can go to a dentist is Santiago and it might cost less or she can go to a dentist in Puerto Plata and get it fixed. One of my friends from the states comes here to get his dental work done and he found a dentist that does a good job for him pretty reasonably priced. I can pm you a number for a dentist in POP I know.

[Yanqui69]

A girl from Santiago I know has had an accident and lost part of one of her incisors. The dentist suggested root canal and crown etc. I wonder what according to your dentists, this could potentially cost. I do not want her to lose the tooth. For a young woman, that is important and it is a front tooth. Please help with your thoughts and suggestions. She has sent me some pictures which if necessary can be sent too privately.

Thanks in advanceI know this wasn't asking me, but a friend of mine recently had big-time dentistry done (multiple veneers, procedure was quoted as 6K in the States).

He had the work done in POP for about $600US and was very pleased.

(The dentist recommended a procedure but didn't provide the estimated cost?)

Good luck.

[Tempoecorto]

Thank you so much. I just thought of asking people who live in PP which is why I directed to specific people. Little did I think that there might be others who would be into medical tourism. The dentist in question quoted a price along with a suggested procedure but since I plan to pay (there is no way she can afford it) , I thought I would shop around to get some idea of price and procedure.

Thanks again.


I know this wasn't asking me, but a friend of mine recently had big-time dentistry done (multiple veneers, procedure was quoted as 6K in the States).

He had the work done in POP for about $600US and was very pleased.

(The dentist recommended a procedure but didn't provide the estimated cost?)

Good luck.

[Hillbilly69]

I only mentioned the Playa Dorada taxis for those that decide after walking from FOD to Playa Dorada in the brutal mid day sun that want to return via taxi that they will pay about double the normal cost.

Charles, I would welcome your help in learning more about utilizing the publicos. I use them out of Sosua quite often but not from the main road in Puerto Plata. I am traveling to the DR with an acquaintance of yours and a good friend of Billy's in June, possibly staying at FOD, I'll buy you lunch and drinks though I know you aren't much of a boozer.Billy informs me he thinks he won't be around much longer as his health is on the decline.

[BeersTerry]

I just had a broken tooth fixed and my teeth cleaned for $40

[Tempoecorto]

I just had a broken tooth fixed and my teeth cleaned for $40You serious? You mean, root canal, sealing and crown for $40? Perhaps you can PM me the details so we do not bother others? Thanks.

[MPinto247]

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum and first time to Dominican Repulic. I am trying to book to a 7 day trip to Puerto Plata and will be staying at BLUE BAY VILLAS DORADAS. I am planing to stay 2 nights at FOD and 2 night trip to Sosua. Reason I booked the all inclusive is since its first time in DR I would probably feel more comfortable there albeit not being chica friendly, cost of food and drinks would be probably be similiar to not staying at an AI.

I am basically looking for general tips that a noobie like me may not be privy to, such as best place to stay in Sosua, safety tips, how to maximize my trip, Do / Don'ts etc.

Thank you in advance for any advice, appreciate it.

[Riky Rapido]

You serious? You mean, root canal, sealing and crown for $40? Perhaps you can PM me the details so we do not bother others? Thanks.The orthodontist was young, pretty, and competent. After 4 sittings, and a little over 4 hours of work, xrays, filling, ect. I paid about 110 dollars or 4200 pesos. I have no complaints about the dentistry here, nor with the medical doctors. Cheap, efficient, and they don't have you coming back.

[Love Seeker]

8. Soliciting prostitutes outlawed in Dominican Republic.

Attorney General Francisco Dominguez Brito has announced that soliciting the services of a prostitute in the Dominican Republic is now against the law. The authorities have been tolerant towards prostitution in the past. Dominguez Brito announced that men caught soliciting the services of a prostitute would be arrested and files on them would be recorded in the judiciary.

Dominguez Brito said that the government would intervene in prostitution centers that are located on George Washington (Malecon) , Sarasota, Duarte, and Ortega why Gasset avenues in Santo Domingo and Calle Del Sol in Santiago."Whoever takes advantage of the poverty of a woman in a situation of vulnerability, the law establishes clearly and rates this as pimping," said Dominguez.

He made the statement during the Corripio Communications Group Weekly Luncheon event, which was also attended by Major General Jose Armando Polanco Gomez, Minister of Interior and Police Jose Ramon Fadul and deputy minister of Interior and Police Washington Gonzalez.

Dominguez Brito said they would not be penalizing sex workers, as reported in El Dia. The attorney general said that his office would be sending people to patrol the areas,"so that people know they are there." Dominguez Brito clarified only the clients would be arrested and sent to justice, not the prostitutes.

[Charles Pooter]

I don't think this has been posted often enough on this board. I haven't checked, but if it has now been posted in every DR section, perhaps we should start posting it in the Costa Rica, Colombia and Brazil sections as well.

[Balto1]

8. Soliciting prostitutes outlawed in Dominican Republic.

Dominguez Brito said they would not be penalizing sex workers, as reported in El Dia. The attorney general said that his office would be sending people to patrol the areas,"so that people know they are there." Dominguez Brito clarified only the clients would be arrested and sent to justice, not the prostitutes.Of course sex workers will be penalized because they will lose their customers unless the government already has a stimulus package for hookers.

[Yanqui69]

After a hiatus of a few years, I was curious to visit the most recent reincarnation of the Field of Dreams.

Noted the board has not posted reviews of girls for some time, like it used to do, so will focus on that.

Hotels have a few differences, but in the end, it's the girls that bring in the business.

(First, as I started to enter the place, who's the first girl I see? Yohanny, formerly at BlackBeard's. She said she was there working to buy additional equipment for her salon. She still looks great, and is sporting a newly-enhanced bustline, with new, firm-looking C-cups. They look great).

Over the next couple of days, also saw Kilsia ('China') and Saida, who worked at BB way back in 2005.

Overall, the girls were young, almost all in early 20's.

With very few exceptions, they were all very 'natural' looking; looking like the 'hot' girl next-door.

They don't have the jaded or hard-core look or demeanor you see in girls who have been in this line of work for a while.

Cristal; pretty, fine featured face, café au lait skin, light brown hair, slim, curvy, 'spinner' figure. A young 'pro' in the making. Very friendly and great oral skills.

'Blondie; ' cute face, fair-skinned, voluptuous, buxom. Wasn't cut out for Happy Hours, but possibly good one on one.

Marleny aka 'Chupi' (?) Slim, cute face. Impressive muscle tone in legs and bottom (rubbed them down with baby oil, and swear you could bounce a quarter off those cheeks). Not stunning looking, but a lot of fun. She clearly enjoys the job and will try to sell you by offering a girl on girl show in the room with one of her friends. Minus the show, I hooked up with her and different girlfriends on multiple occasions, and it was always a good time. Sweet, fun to hang with. Very fun girl.

Carolina; one of Marleny's girlfriends. About 21, fair-skinned, with strikingly pretty, actress / model quality face with light brown eyes and dimples.
Nice figure, great oral skills. Very sweet girl, GFE. A sweetheart.

Sandra; about 21. Chocolate skin, cute baby face with Bambi eyes. Nice figure, with great legs, bottom. Great oral skills. Very sweet and accommodating. Very good GFE. Also a sweetheart.

Daniela; about 21, with very dark-chocolate skin. Good body, with small, pert breasts and great legs, bottom. Also very sweet and accommodating; tries to please. Very good GFE. Sweetheart.

Yahaira (maybe 21) and Carolina (19). These should be experienced as a matching pair. Yahaira has a slim little 'spinner' body. Her friend Carolina (I will call 'Baby Carolina') maybe 19 with a year-old baby, but she has a drop-dead gorgeous baby face with amazing, dark Bambi eyes, and dark hair. She has a little baby fat, but most is in the right places, with a nice bust and a cute little butt. Yahaira's not a stunner, but a great performer. She and 'Baby' Carolina' got my attention trying to persuade me of their 'blojah' skills. (?) Tried to improve their pronounciation, but they could not pronounce the second letter 'B' in 'blowjo*"). Turned out they were right. A Happy Hour with these two little babes providing double, simultaneous 'blojah' from all angles was so amazing, I had repeat dates.

You may have noted I used terms like baby-face a lot. But so they were. With few exceptions the girls are young, and natural. There were several more there that I simply had no time / money / energy to get to know, but most looked like 'real' girls, not pros. I hope they manage to stay that way for a long time.

It may have been luck of the draw, but I had no complaint about any of the girls I met, and all the names I listed were sweet and a pleasure to be with.

Sweethearts they were, and I felt like in the company of girlfriends rather than play for pay girls. I saw no 'worthless hoes' while I was there. Treat them well.

How a guy treats these girls says a lot about the man he is – or isn't.

(Also observed some low class / no class types visiting. Loud and crude. Called 'Baby' Carolina over to stand in front of them while they ogled her, made comments and pawed her a little bit, like they were buying a horse). A waste of oxygen.

The hotel reminds me of where BB was about 7-8 years ago. Still working out the bugs, but the owners are not stupid, and will go out of their way to make things right when they can. I prefer to pay my bar / food tab daily, and one feature I liked was the itemized computer printout of my tab.

BB is the original and still probably sets the standard for this kind of operation. Both provide a secure environment with quality control.

And both provide local women a place to support themselves and their families without the dangers of working the street.

Both places are recommended for newcomers (or oldcomers) to start out in the DR, without the hassles and risks that come with street action.

I know some sneer and call it 'spoon-feeding', but when I can make it down, I don't have time to waste.

I want to spend my time enjoying lots of seafood. Not fishing all day / night for the adventure or to save a couple of pesos.

"Ceiling fan stirs the air; cigar smoke is swirled.

Fragrance on a pillowcase, and he'll think about the girl.

Spilling wine and sharing good times, she sure could make him smile.

He paid her well, but what the hell, he'll be leaving in a little while.

Havana daydreamin', he's just dreamin' his life away."

Jimmy Buffett

[Yanqui69]

I miss her. She was an ultimate puta, not a GFE.

She was not a beautiful and sweet, but her skills probably the best I've ever experienced.

Very professional 3 holer with knowledge of monger's psychology LOL! I've overheard some psychological tips she was giving to the other chica during threesome.

I've heard 2 different versions of what happened to her:

1. She owns a beauty salon.

2. She got married to some former customer.

Or maybe both at the same time.

Rumors are, she might be available sometimes. Anyone knows if it's true?Note my most recent post. As of Saturday, she was at FOD.

Y69

[Manizales911]

After a hiatus of a few years, I was curious to visit the most recent reincarnation of the Field of Dreams.

Noted the board has not posted reviews of girls for some time, like it used to do, so will focus on that.

Hotels have a few differences, but in the end, it's the girls that bring in the business.Thanks for the excellent report Yanqui69. I will be there beginning June 5th, was only going to stay a couple days but if my experience is as good as yours I may stay a little longer.

[StrongLad]

The orthodontist was young, pretty, and competent. After 4 sittings, and a little over 4 hours of work, xrays, filling, ect. I paid about 110 dollars or 4200 pesos. I have no complaints about the dentistry here, nor with the medical doctors. Cheap, efficient, and they don't have you coming back.I am going to Sosua / Porta Plata on the 5/21 and I need lots of Dental work. Could you please PM the contact info for a good dentist in the area. I am interested in crowns, fill ins, and a dental implant

[Manizales911]

I did want to correct one thing in your report Yanqui. The girl you called Saida is actually Sahira. Her cedula says Sayda but she claims her father screwed it up when he registered her birth. She has a new tattoo with the name Sahiret on her hip, that is her daughters name. I have known her for at least 7 years and have traveled all over the island with her including staying at her family home in Azua. I also met her father when he traveled to Boston on a business trip, nice guy but I wanted to kick his ass, he is very wealthy and does shit for his 9 kids, they are dirt poor.

[Yanqui69]

I did want to correct one thing in your report Yanqui. The girl you called Saida is actually Sahira. Her cedula says Sayda but she claims her father screwed it up when he registered her birth. She has a new tattoo with the name Sahiret on her hip, that is her daughters name. I have known her for at least 7 years and have traveled all over the island with her including staying at her family home in Azua. I also met her father when he traveled to Boston on a business trip, nice guy but I wanted to kick his ass, he is very wealthy and does shit for his 9 kids, they are dirt poor.Yep, that's her.

My very first experience at BB was with her and another Azuana, Kenya, on Kenya's first day at BB.

Never got that tight with her, but agree that possibly the worst thing to happen to Dominican women was Dominican men.

Suspect the population would be a lot smaller if child support was enforced.

[Tempoecorto]

You may have noted I used terms like baby-face a lot. But so they were. With few exceptions the girls are young, and natural. There were several more there that I simply had no time / money / energy to get to know, but most looked like 'real' girls, not pros. I hope they manage to stay that way for a long time.

It may have been luck of the draw, but I had no complaint about any of the girls I met, and all the names I listed were sweet and a pleasure to be with. Sweethearts they were, and I felt like in the company of girlfriends rather than play for pay girls. I saw no 'worthless hoes' while I was there. Treat them well.

How a guy treats these girls says a lot about the man he is – or isn't.I have never been to FOD / BB as I like the fishing experience as much as eating the fish (LOL) but I had to say, yours was a lovely report, not so much because of facts (for me) but because of its tone and a few things I highlighted here that resonated with me about treating women.

[Grub1]

The orthodontist was young, pretty, and competent. After 4 sittings, and a little over 4 hours of work, xrays, filling, ect. I paid about 110 dollars or 4200 pesos. I have no complaints about the dentistry here, nor with the medical doctors. Cheap, efficient, and they don't have you coming back.Please post here or pm the dentist info. I am glad you are happy with her work maybe many more of us will be to.

[Riky Rapido]

Please post here or pm the dentist info. I am glad you are happy with her work maybe many more of us will be to.On the 2nd floor in the building that houses the Banco Reserves in front of the central park in Navarette. Easy to get to from Santiago by car or guagua, bus. There are two dentists in the office, the lady who did my root canal was named? Jorge. An implant runs about $100.

[Manizales911]

Does anyone know if FOD has finally put a heater on their jacuzzi / hot tub / spa? In the past there have been a couple half assed attempts to heat it with solar but it never worked.

[OldKool]

On another site the manager said they did not want the thing heated.


Does anyone know if FOD has finally put a heater on their jacuzzi / hot tub / spa? In the past there have been a couple half assed attempts to heat it with solar but it never worked.

[Manizales911]

On another site the manager said they did not want the thing heated.Translated, they don't want to pay to heat the thing.

[Grub1]

Please give me some direction on how to find fod and also Barbra negra.

Thanks

[Llttf]

Please give me some direction on how to find fod and also Barbra negra.

ThanksIt would have been just as easy to Google your question and get an instant answer.

[Frannie]

Please give me some direction on how to find fod and also Barbra negra.

ThanksJust tell any taxi driver you are looking for Barbra, and they will take you right to her.

[Manizales911]

Please give me some direction on how to find fod and also Barbra negra.

ThanksFOD is directly across from the employee entrance to the resort complex Playa Dorada, any taxi driver will know where Playa Dorada is.

Barba Negra is in the small town of Costambar so the first thing is to tell the taxi driver you want to go to Costambar. Costambar is a gated community, have the taxi driver get directions to Barba Negra from one of the guards at the entrance.

I would give you the directions in spanish but if I don't conjugate my verbs correctly or god forbid I misspell a word Frannie will get his knickers in a twist.

[Frannie]

FOD is directly across from the employee entrance to the resort complex Playa Dorada, any taxi driver will know where Playa Dorada is.

Barba Negra is in the small town of Costambar so the first thing is to tell the taxi driver you want to go to Costambar. Costambar is a gated community, have the taxi driver get directions to Barba Negra from one of the guards at the entrance.

I would give you the directions in spanish but if I don't conjugate my verbs correctly or god forbid I misspell a word Frannie will get his knickers in a twist.Well, you could just put it into Spanish, but when people are looking for Black Barbra near Sousa, chances are they don't know a lot of Spanish, so it won't help. Just telling the taxi driver where to go would be a good idea, especially if you can find out the correct name of the place, either Blackbeard's or La Barba Negra, or Field of Dreams or Estadio de los sueños if you want to be silly.

Me gustaría darle las instrucciones en español, pero si no conjugo mis verbos correctamente o Dios no lo quiera que escribir mal una palabra Frannie a conseguir sus bragas en un giro.

[Aardvark]

Or rather is it a lot more expensive? It seems like the easy way to get to FOD or Blackbeard's is just have them set up transportation unless the cost is a lot different.

[Manizales911]

Or rather is it a lot more expensive? It seems like the easy way to get to FOD or Blackbeard's is just have them set up transportation unless the cost is a lot different.It's the same as the standard fare, the problem is that some taxi drivers will try to overcharge you. Have the hotel arrange for pickup.

[Traveler04]

FOD = Hot Tub. Please get it fixed and keep it warm! Its got a nice location but the last time I was there I took two girls up for what I thought would be a nice relaxing time. It was anything but. I was planning on staying there for 8 days and using it as a base camp while I go exploring in my rental car but am now having second thoughts. BB's Jacuzzi is one of the most amazing attractions in all of the DR!

Taxi's. In Costambar a taxi for the single traveler is not cheap as they are controlled by the Taxi Mafia there. BB's can arrange a pick up at the airport which is nice but not cheap. Find a friend save some money.

FOD is closer to the airport so you can grab any taxi and it is much cheaper. If they do not know where FOD's is just tell them Playa Dorado as the FOD entrance is on the left across from the first entrance. FOD will arrange to have you picked up just like BB's.

[Volpone]

If you need a massage or a fuck in Puerto Plata, just call this number 8295912240. However I don't know if they do speak English.

I went to the place, they ask me 2500 Pesos, get down to 1200 for a short time. 20-30 minutes fuck, BBBJ. I had the choice between 2 girls onsite when I was there.

Don't pay more than 1500 for 1hour. The place was near the center, but you will need anyway a moto taxi to go there.

More or less the adress is this one :

Avenue behind new dock dock

Behind Viara Hotel, number 13 on the main street.

That's what I read on the ad, but better to call and ask a driver to understand the adress.

[MikeNice2732]

I am a coming into POP and have to stay for a few days at the riu. Nice place but not what I'm here for. I have been researching a bit and have some q's. If you are not staying there are you able to still visit Blackbeard. If yes are there facilities on site to use hourly? Also is it feasible to get a taxi every night to go to sosua and is it even nescessary? I have a good idea of where to go while in sosua and had planned on staying there originally, but can stay at riu for free and include food and alcohol and air for much less. (I am a travel agent trying to save a buck)

[Charles Pooter]

I am a coming into POP and have to stay for a few days at the riu. Nice place but not what I'm here for. I have been researching a bit and have some q's. If you are not staying there are you able to still visit Blackbeard. If yes are there facilities on site to use hourly? Also is it feasible to get a taxi every night to go to sosua and is it even nescessary? I have a good idea of where to go while in sosua and had planned on staying there originally, but can stay at riu for free and include food and alcohol and air for much less. (I am a travel agent trying to save a buck)There are three Riu hotels near Maimon. Are you staying in one of those? It is 5 miles from there to Blackbeards. So you will need a cab. Non-residents are welcome at Blackbeards to use the bar and restaurant. If there are spare rooms available you can hire one for short-time sex.

It is about eight miles from the Riu hotels into Puerto Plata. There are chicas in Pto Pta but your problem everywhere you go is that you will have to pay extra for somewhere to do the deed as you will not be able to take girls back to your hotel. You are fortunate that there are several cabanas on your side of Puerto Plata along the main road and there is a cheap one quite near Maimon if you find a local girl.

I used to have success finding girls in Imbert, the next town along the main road after Maimon. If you find one there you could take her to the cheap cabana (sorry, its name escapes me for the moment but all the locals will know it).

Sosua is 26 miles from Maimon. A private taxi from the Riu Hotel to Sosua will cost you 2500 pesos return (about US$61). Maybe more if the driver has a lot of waiting time. Then you have to pay for somewhere to do the deed on top.

You could economise by using public transport. This would cost you about 100 pesos (about US$2. 50) one way to Sosua and will take 70 to 90 minutes depending on how lucky you are with connections. But coming back late at night I would take public transport to Puerto Plata and get a taxi the rest of the way.

If you put the work in and use all the options, yes, you can save money by your way of doing things. But if you want a full-bloodied monger holiday with lots of chicas and reasonable comfort then it would be as cheap, and a lot more fun, to have stayed in Sosua (or Blackbeards or Field of Dreams) and paid regular prices for hotels and airfare.

[El Pirata]

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[Tempoecorto]

I used to have success finding girls in Imbert, the next town along the main road after Maimon.Charles, would you elaborate on that a bit. Success how, where, doing what, domenicanas or haitianas? I have passed by that road on the way to PP and back and would appreciate the intel.

Thanks

[Charles Pooter]

Charles, would you elaborate on that a bit. Success how, where, doing what, domenicanas or haitianas? I have passed by that road on the way to PP and back and would appreciate the intel.Nothing to interest you. Just a small town like any other. It claims 30, 000 population (but that must include a vast rural hinterland because it looks much smaller than Montellano, which has 20, 000). I only mentioned it to MikeNice because it is the first town along the main road in the other direction from Maimon and would make a cheap and easy outing for him one evening by guagua or publico. There are about 5 bars there each with a few waitresses and I always found them available at reasonable prices (1000 ST and 1500 TLN). He would need to use a cabana but there is one only a few minutes ride away and slightly cheaper than the ones nearer to Puerto Plata.

The liveliest bar was one out of town about half mile down the side road towards Luperon, located at the junction with the "short cut" from Pto Pta to Luperon.

That was back in the day before I came over to the dark side, so they were all dominicanas bar one, and I found her in a grua of which the entrance is alongside that bar. The Dominicans in the bar were incredulous (and a bit concerned on my behalf) that I would venture into the grua looking for chicas but I had an interesting time there (including meeting simultaneously the oldest and youngest putas I have ever seen in the DR).

[Tempoecorto]

That was back in the day before I came over to the dark side, so they were all dominicanas bar one, and I found her in a grua of which the entrance is alongside that bar. The Dominicans in the bar were incredulous (and a bit concerned on my behalf) that I would venture into the grua looking for chicas but I had an interesting time there (including meeting simultaneously the oldest and youngest putas I have ever seen in the DR)."Came over to the dark side"? Not sure I get that and what is a grua by the way? Thanks much for the information. I will watch these bars when an opportunity comes up but the challenge with waitresses is that you will have to often hang around until they are done and so the times often conflict.

[Charles Pooter]

"Came over to the dark side"? Not sure I get that.About four years ago I discovered the greater rewards and lesser amount of hassle that comes from preferring haitianas over dominicanas. I have rarely laid fingers on dominicanas since.


. what is a grua by the way?"Grua" is a crane or a breakdown truck. The Dominican economy used to be mainly based on cutting sugar cane, largely done by seasonal workers migrated from other areas and from Haiti. Often they would create a temporary shanty-town of lean-to shelters around the crane which was the central point for loading the harvest onto trucks and carts. Eventually the word "grua" came to mean a tiny rural Haitian community, even in cases where the cane fields and the cranes themselves had long gone.

"Batey" is the usual word for a rural Haitian village in the DR and usually carries contemptuous implications."Grua" is a step down from that, smaller and even more squalid.

In Sosua,"El Batey" was the Haitian-inhabited cane fields outside the already established town of Los Charamicos where land was sold to Jews to settle. Since then it has become the "posher" part of Sosua.


I will watch these bars when an opportunity comes up but the challenge with waitresses is that you will have to often hang around until they are done and so the times often conflict.Very often true. But many waitresses in bars, pool-halls, dance-halls, etc, outside tourist areas only work for the chance to pick up customers for sex (500 pesos for a quickie) as their wages are minimal (2000 pesos a month would not be unusual). Their bosses understand that and are happy to see them leave for an hour or two and dock their pay or, better, get a salida (typically 300 pesos). May not work if the bar is busy, but how often is that the case?

I have picked up five chicas from three bars in Imbert. Three were OK, one was wonderful, and one turned out to be a coke-head and total psycho but someone more streetwise than myself would have spotted the warning signs immediately.

[Mr Enternational]

CP why would you pay 1000 ST to girl at a local dive when you later go on to say that they go for 500?

[Charles Pooter]

CP why would you pay 1000 ST to girl at a local dive when you later go on to say that they go for 500?Partly the "gringo tax" but more a question of how they are used. Dominican guys will typically jump onto these girls like buck rabbits and be done in three minutes. I used to sit in my then favourite haunt, El Consulado (now Bermuda Bar), and watch guys go into the back room with the waitresses. First few times I used to think "The girls aren't having much luck with these customers. They obviously cannot agree on price or services offered" as the guy was back in the bar within five minutes before his beer had got warm. Later I realised that was it, job done. Just relieving a need for these guys like taking a dump.

I have had many hundreds of chicas since first visiting the DR but only a handful for less than an hour.

But I wouldn't get too hung up on specific prices. I only meant that the vast majority of paid sexual transactions in the DR are not at Passions, Blackbeards, or Clasico price levels. And that is pretty logical when you think of income levels here. The beer that costs US$1.50 to us is costing a working-class Dominican four to six times that amount in comparison.

[Mr Enternational]

Now I get you. The same thing goes on in Asia. The locals are in and out in a couple of minutes doing one position. But us Americans want to go hard in the paint and play porno star.

[OldKool]

I am curious. Any idea what the ladies prefer. You are right about the porn influence. I checked out some massage porn videos whose technigues I use very often. I have heard often from the girls that they do not like their home boy.


Now I get you. The same thing goes on in Asia. The locals are in and out in a couple of minutes doing one position. But us Americans want to go hard in the paint and play porno star.

[Mr Enternational]

They prefer the same that you would prefer. The most money for the least time and the minimal amount of work. There is a saying that goes around about our Asian brother mongers 3-3-3. 3 inches. 3 minutes. 3000 baht / pesos.

[Tempoecorto]

But many waitresses in bars, pool-halls, dance-halls, etc, outside tourist areas only work for the chance to pick up customers for sex (500 pesos for a quickie) as their wages are minimal (2000 pesos a month would not be unusual).Thanks so much for that elaborate explanatory note. I really learned something new.

I knew El Batey was the Jewish outpost. Indeed I almost went to see the museum when I was in Sosua but had no clue of the meaning of the word batey. I also did not know what the game is in the bars and with the bartenders / waitresses. But if it is that, I would assume a woman would not work in a bar close to her neighborhood for fear of losing face, even if such a position were available in her neck of the woods?

[DeepMmpactt]

Okay welcome back to Deep tv! Our journey takes us to the "Field of Dreams" hotel. I want to shoutout Manizales911 for his chica referral of Sahira Galvan, for those interested a nice "spinner" medioum Brown skinned, very sexy classy look to her. She's always attentive and available, you can do her right there at " field of dreams" or she will come to your hotel. So hit her up on facebook Sahira Galvan. Me and my entourage went to the bikini party, sadly I must admit it was a "train wreck" the music kept, skipping or cutting off, the P. A system was pre school quality, the feed back drew a lot of boos. I must say kudos to ISG member and employee at Fod Niko" he tried unsuccessfully to host the unorganized event. The girls were 4-7, at best, some of the girls were bit over weight, no one girl was a absolute must have, ill post pictures soon, the finest girl there was the waitress that served us she was a solid 8 and 1/2. We had drinks, and played pool, the place was moderately crowded. The paintings or murals left a lot to be desired. My friend was picked to be one of the 3 judges, which made no sense, because the audience not the judges chose the bikini contest winner.

The staff did aim to please, but the girls and the contest was a "train wreck" maybe they might want to be a lot more organized. I didn't meet the infamous member Jesse James, but Niko was awesome. I would defitnitely stay there, but I would import girls from the outside, along with the few on site. Maybe all the hot ones were busy or not there, I was a little disappointed with the contest overall. I will go there again, and a guest to see if maybe that was a fluke.

[Charles Pooter]

I shall be at Field of Dreams tomorrow (Sunday) from 1. 00pm and would be pleased to meet any ISG members in the neighbourhood. Look for the old limey quietly decomposing in the shade.

[Manizales911]

Okay welcome back to Deep tv! Our journey takes us to the "Field of Dreams" hotel. I want to shoutout Manizales911 for his chica referral of Sahira Galvan, for those interested a nice "spinner" medioum Brown skinned, very sexy classy look to her. She's always attentive and available, you can do her right there at " field of dreams" or she will come to your hotel. So hit her up on facebook Sahira Galvan. Me and my entourage went to the bikini party, sadly I must admit it was a "train wreck" the music kept, skipping or cutting off, the P. A system was pre school quality, the feed back drew a lot of boos. I must say kudos to ISG member and employee at Fod Niko" he tried unsuccessfully to host the unorganized event. The girls were 4-7, at best, some of the girls were bit over weight, no one girl was a absolute must have, ill post pictures soon, the finest girl there was the waitress that served us she was a solid 8 and 1/2. We had drinks, and played pool, the place was moderately crowded. The paintings or murals left a lot to be desired. My friend was picked to be one of the 3 judges, which made no sense, because the audience not the judges chose the bikini contest winner.

The staff did aim to please, but the girls and the contest was a "train wreck" maybe they might want to be a lot more organized. I didn't meet the infamous member Jesse James, but Niko was awesome. I would defitnitely stay there, but I would import girls from the outside, along with the few on site. Maybe all the hot ones were busy or not there, I was a little disappointed with the contest overall. I will go there again, and a guest to see if maybe that was a fluke.I just got back from a 6 day stay at FOD, report to follow. I am quite sure the waitress that you are referring to is Jennifer the wife of one of the owners, definitely off the table, I checked, hahaha.

[Commonsenseforu]

Can anyone please tell how they have flown to Puerto Plata? I have been searching and looking and there appears not to be many.

Airlines that fly into Puerto Plata. I will be leaving from Chicago. I would appreciate the feed back. Thanks

[Camaro1257]

Can anyone please tell how they have flown to Puerto Plata? I have been searching and looking and there appears not to be many.

Airlines that fly into Puerto Plata. I will be leaving from Chicago. I would appreciate the feed back. ThanksAA has 1 flight daily arrives in POP around 3:15pm.

[Frannie]

Can anyone please tell how they have flown to Puerto Plata? I have been searching and looking and there appears not to be many.

Airlines that fly into Puerto Plata. I will be leaving from Chicago. I would appreciate the feed back. ThanksAmerican Airlines has direct flights from Miami, New York, and San Juan, Puerto Rico. You would need to connect through one of these.

[Aardvark]

United Airlines flies in from Newark.

[Buscemi]

United Airlines flies in from Newark.
WOW, United Flies daily NONSTOP out of EWR except Fridays I learned.
JetBlue flies non-stop from JFK on a daily basis.

[Charles Pooter]

I shall be at Field of Dreams tomorrow (Sunday) from 1.00pm and would be pleased to meet any ISG members in the neighbourhood.Well, I was there with three friends and our girls.

A good illustration of how we get widely contrasting reports on the same places. I was there a few weeks ago and the place was buzziing, plenty of pretty girls and the bar was busy. Two friends who were staying there couldn't praise the place highly enough.

Today it was dreary. Lots of FoD chicas there looking bored and only two other guys I noticed apart from our group. I didn't eat (I never do midday) but my friends all ordered different things and had to wait forever, the food arrived cold and was, they said, awful. Even our normally hungry haitianas couldn't eat it.

On leaving I went to the bar to pay my small tab (a few cokes). Instead of taking my money the girl behind the bar wandered off to find her colleague. Eventually it transpired that the girl for whom she was looking was seated a few feet away all the time. WTF? Anyone not competent or trustworthy enough to take the money for a few cokes should not be standing behind the bar in the first place.

It was the first time that I have been there that none of the three partners was present. We spotted none of them in the two hours we were there. I imagine that had a lot to do with the relapse into normal Dominican standards of service. If so, I hope it was a rare exception as I don't think any of my friends will be back in a hurry.

[Aardvark]

I think I have the name correct. At any rate the market close to Blackbeard's where you can get money exchanged at a good rate.

Thanks

[RadPoker]

Just returned and it was 41.3.

Radpoker


I think I have the name correct. At any rate the market close to Blackbeard's where you can get money exchanged at a good rate.

Thanks

[El Pirata]

Blackbeards Adult Resort would like to invite all ISG members to join us for our 210th Bikini Contest at Blackbeards – this coming Saturday – July 13th – Rain or Shine at 4pm!

There is a minimal cover charge of Road$200 Pesos and your ticket is good for one free small Presidente or Rum and Coke. Sixteen Sexy Shipmates will be competing and if you haven't seen our show – you should take this opportunity to have some fun at Blackbeards!

Hope You Can Make it!

El Capitan

[Manny51]

Hi guys,

Going to be in northern coast DR at the end of the month. Thinking about visiting FOD.

I've been seeing a real mix in the reports. Some say its great, others say its dead. Has anyone been able to figure out any pattern to it? For example, is hopping on Friday and Sat night, but dead Mon-Th?

[Manizales911]

hi guys,

going to be in northern coast dr at the end of the month. thinking about visiting fod.

i've been seeing a real mix in the reports. some say its great, others say its dead. has anyone been able to figure out any pattern to it? for example, is hopping on friday and sat night, but dead mon-th?i spent six days there recently and have not posted a report yet, i have been too busy. the reason for the conflicting reports is that the liveliness of the resort literally changes hour by hour. they get a ton of transient traffic through there, both locals and tourists, so it can go from dead to jumping in no time, i was amazed. also, this time of the year is low season for the entire island and fod will be booked solid one day and near empty another. when i was there there were several days that they were almost full and several days when they only had a few rooms booked but even when there were only a few guys staying there there were times when the bar was packed.

there was always at least 15-20 girls there, always. there have been reports of only a handful of girls being there, you have to look around, there will be pockets of girls sitting at various spots around the resort. also, keep in mind if the bar is dead some of the girls might be in the back where some of them live and also sitting outside of the bar area. the other thing to keep in mind is that the girls come in three shifts versus two shifts at bb's so the inventory changes all day long. i strongly dispute the reports that the pickings were slim or that the quality was suspect, that is simply not true. i have been to the north coast many many times and have stayed at both bb's and fod as well as in sosua and the quality in my opinion is definitely better than bb's.

i booked my stay there with intentions of using fod simply as a home base but i ended up spending more time than i had planned to because i had such a good time. i tend to create my own party atmosphere anyway but the staff was real cool peeps and me and my wingman just had a blast staying there. i have been to the dr at least 25 times and this trip ranked right near the top.

i will post a long assed report including some photos for guys to judge for themselves, just don't know when.

any senior members that need specific info don't hesitate to pm me. i'm not trying to be an a-hole but i constantly get pm's from guys with zero or one report and it's like wtf.

[Manny51]

I spent six days there recently and have not posted a report yet, I have been too busy. The reason for the conflicting reports is that the liveliness of the resort literally changes hour by hour. They get a TON of transient traffic through there, both locals and tourists, so it can go from dead to jumping in no time, I was amazed. Also, this time of the year is low season for the entire island and FOD will be booked solid one day and near empty another. When I was there there were several days that they were almost full and several days when they only had a few rooms booked but even when there were only a few guys staying there there were times when the bar was packed.

There was always at least 15-20 girls there, always. I booked my stay there with intentions of using FOD simply as a home base but I ended up spending more time than I had planned to because I had such a good time. I have been to the DR at least 25 times and this trip ranked right near the top.

WTF.Thanks Manizales! Looking forward to your report.

One quick question though, as I am finalizing my plans. I am thinking strongly of renting a car. I went to be able to go the 27 waterfalls, and kiteboarding / surfing when I want. I will base in either FOD or Oxygen.

I see that you have been there many times. Do you think that renting a car is a good idea? The local taxi fares seem pricey, something like $44 just to check out BB. Splitting it with a friend of mine, by my calculation, a rental car would be a great deal. Is there something that I am missing?

My main concern is vandalism and theft, not accidents. I would only drive on the main coastal road and have no intention of going inland. Do cars get vandalized or broken into left and right?

Also, my trip will coincide with the Merengue festival in SD. Have you been there before, and it is the festival worth it? Its weird, everything I read about the festival said it is over 2 weeks long, but this year, it is only 2 days long. It seems that it might be dying.

Thanks in advance!

[Charles Pooter]

My main concern is vandalism and theft, not accidents.Why? Are you some sort of Teflon superhero?

There are plenty of posts here on the advantages and disadvantages of renting a car. Read them, and be aware of the issues before you decide.

But if you are just going to motor up and down the main road that eliminates one of the commonly cited reasons to renting a car, the ability to get off the beaten track. You can do that without needing private taxis, though I am surprised cost is an issue if you can afford Oxygen

[Manny51]

Why? Are you some sort of Teflon superhero?

There are plenty of posts here on the advantages and disadvantages of renting a car. Read them, and be aware of the issues before you decide.

But if you are just going to motor up and down the main road that eliminates one of the commonly cited reasons to renting a car, the ability to get off the beaten track. You can do that without needing private taxis, though I am surprised cost is an issue if you can afford OxygenWhat's with the attitude? I was asking Manizales for his personal opinion, as he has been to the DR over 40+ times. No one is talking to you, so keep your attitude to yourself.

I like the freedom of coming and going when I please. I HAVE read the forums. It seems that a taxis are controlled by the taxi mafia, charging something like $40 for a ride from Sosua to Costambar. I am paying $115 for a car for four days. And having a car lets me fly into Santiago, which is much cheaper. You basically get the car for free. From an economic standpoint, its the smart move.

[Charles Pooter]

What's with the attitude? I was asking Manizales for his personal opinion, as he has been to the DR over 40+ times. No one is talking to you, so keep your attitude to yourself.Manizales is indeed a knowledgeable and balanced poster whose opinion you rightly value, but anything posted on the open board is fair game for anyone to stick their oar in. If your question was only for Manizales' eyes you should have sent him a PM. But it is better to post on the open board so all can benefit on those occasions something new and useful is posted.


I like the freedom of coming and going when I please. I HAVE read the forums. It seems that a taxis are controlled by the taxi mafia, charging something like $40 for a ride from Sosua to Costambar. I am paying $115 for a car for four days. And having a car lets me fly into Santiago, which is much cheaper. You basically get the car for free. From an economic standpoint, its the smart move.You make out a good case, but you should be aware of the downsides. Fatal accidents are extremely common, forty times as frequent per driver mile as in the UK. And there are many scams practiced on gringo drivers by police and others. You should make sure you have access to the Casa del Conductor service included in your insurance. This will insure that if do have the misfortune to be involved in an accident where someone is injured (or fraudulently claims to be injured) you will be taken to a sort of cheap hotel with access to a phone, food, and medical attention if needed, instead of being thrown into some fetid shithole with a dozen naked hoodlums for three or more weeks while the police, the lawyers and any real or invented witnesses squabble about how much they will screw out of you and how to divide it up.

You seem to have already made up your mind without the benefit of Manizales' wise advice, so I will just wish you "Happy Motoring!"

[Charles Pooter]

Fatal accidents are extremely common, forty times as frequent per driver mile as in the UK.Sorry, that was an exaggeration. I should have written "forty times as frequent per vehicle occupant mile" (reflecting the fact that vehicles in the DR would carry a lot more occupants on average). And of course the other main reason for so many deaths is the extreme unlikelihood of expert medical attention arriving promptly at the scene and the low level of expertise and equipment in all but a handful of private hospitals in the two main cities. However mangled someone is in a UK or US accident their lives will normally be saved, but in the DR you could be left to bleed to death for something comparatively minor.

That is why I commented on your saying "accidents are not my main concern". They should be. Easier to replace your billfold than your legs.

[Manizales911]

Thanks Manizales! Looking forward to your report.

One quick question though, as I am finalizing my plans. I am thinking strongly of renting a car. I went to be able to go the 27 waterfalls, and kiteboarding / surfing when I want. I will base in either FOD or Oxygen.

I see that you have been there many times. Do you think that renting a car is a good idea? The local taxi fares seem pricey, something like $44 just to check out BB. Splitting it with a friend of mine, by my calculation, a rental car would be a great deal. Is there something that I am missing?

My main concern is vandalism and theft, not accidents. I would only drive on the main coastal road and have no intention of going inland. Do cars get vandalized or broken into left and right?

Also, my trip will coincide with the Merengue festival in SD. Have you been there before, and it is the festival worth it? Its weird, everything I read about the festival said it is over 2 weeks long, but this year, it is only 2 days long. It seems that it might be dying.

Thanks in advance!I refuse to rent a car in the DR because I won't take the risk however remote of getting into an accident and going to jail because someone gets hurt. When I was at FOD I talked to a guy who visits the DR frequently and he has not once, but twice hit moto driverswhile driving a rental car, fuck that. There have been numerous reports of guys going to jail due to accidents over the years. I can afford other means of transportation. I look at it this way. 99% of the locals don't have cars and they get around the island, right?

Economically speaking it may make sense to some people that have gotten screwed over by the thieving taxistas but I have the numbers of three taxi drivers who are as reasonable as it gets on the north coast. I have also somewhat learned to use the publicos, I still need to learn more about their routes though. I only use motoconchos on secondary roads and for short trips only, I hate getting on them but I do it.

[Manizales911]

That is why I commented on your saying "accidents are not my main concern". They should be. Easier to replace your billfold than your legs.I couldn't agree with you more Charles. While on my last trip I saw what looked like a fatal accident on my way to Maimon for a seafood lunch, a car and one of those trucks that they use for hauling produce, it wasn't pretty. Those sights solidify my beliefs, but to each their own.

[Manny51]

I refuse to rent a car in the DR because I won't take the risk however remote of getting into an accident and going to jail because someone gets hurt. When I was at FOD I talked to a guy who visits the DR frequently and he has not once, but twice hit moto driverswhile driving a rental car, fuck that. There have been numerous reports of guys going to jail due to accidents over the years. I can afford other means of transportation. I look at it this way. 99% of the locals don't have cars and they get around the island, right?

Economically speaking it may make sense to some people that have gotten screwed over by the thieving taxistas but I have the numbers of three taxi drivers who are as reasonable as it gets on the north coast. I have also somewhat learned to use the publicos, I still need to learn more about their routes though. I only use motoconchos on secondary roads and for short trips only, I hate getting on them but I do it.Hmmm. At first, my main concern was of the car getting broken into while I was at the beach, and dealing with the hassle of insurance claims. Of course, I would never rent the car while in a metro area, like San Jose CR or Santo Domingo. That's crazy. But I have rented cars in Mexico (Cabos) and Costa Rica whenever I was on the coast, and have never had problems. I just make sure to drive only in the daytime, and very very conservatively. I always make sure that I am covered with insurance, both collision and liability. I'll be driving to the beach and back to whatever hotel / resort. Going to party at night, we would probably take a cab anyway, even with the rental car.

This is only my second time to the DR. I suppose someone who has been there many times and knows the "system" can manage. But if I am basically driving to and from the airport, and along the main coastal road, is it really that big a risk? Is it a type of thing where you have heard some horror stories, etc. Or is it a truly common thing for tourists to get in trouble with their cars along the coast? Are police officers routinely actively trying to screw tourists, like in some parts of Mexico?

[Frannie]

what's with the attitude? i was asking manizales for his personal opinion, as he has been to the dr over 40+ times. no one is talking to you, so keep your attitude to yourself.

i like the freedom of coming and going when i please. i have read the forums. it seems that a taxis are controlled by the taxi mafia, charging something like $40 for a ride from sosua to costambar. i am paying $115 for a car for four days. and having a car lets me fly into santiago, which is much cheaper. you basically get the car for free. from an economic standpoint, its the smart move.you can get from sosua to costambar with high speed public taxis for the cost of half a gallon of gasoline. for double the price you can have two seats. tourist taxis are expensive. possibly they are affiliated with the taxi mafiosi in the us.

i think it is ok to drive a rental car, but try to look like a businessman, not a monger and you will get less hassle. do not drink and drive under any circumstances.

[OldKool]

i do not rent in the dr. i am sure most times it is very safe. however the potential for desaster is just not worth it for me. when i go to the north coast i stay in sosua. no car needed. when i am in sd i use cabs. the one time you hit something with a rental car you are in a panic which you have no control over. i keep things simple and max my fun.


you can get from sosua to costambar with high speed public taxis for the cost of half a gallon of gasoline. for double the price you can have two seats. tourist taxis are expensive. possibly they are affiliated with the taxi mafiosi in the us.

i think it is ok to drive a rental car, but try to look like a businessman, not a monger and you will get less hassle. do not drink and drive under any circumstances.

[Manny51]

you can get from sosua to costambar with high speed public taxis for the cost of half a gallon of gasoline. for double the price you can have two seats. tourist taxis are expensive. possibly they are affiliated with the taxi mafiosi in the us.

i think it is ok to drive a rental car, but try to look like a businessman, not a monger and you will get less hassle. do not drink and drive under any circumstances.ok, i'll let report on how the rental went. hopefully it goes fine.

btw, if anyone else is thinking about it, i got my rental at alamo at sti, with liability insurance included, for less than $30 / day. splitting it with my buddy, that's $15 / day each. that was just too cheap to pass up. i'll do my best not to end up in jail!

[Mr Gogo]

Ok, I'll let report on how the rental went. Hopefully it goes fine.

BTW, if anyone else is thinking about it, I got my rental at Alamo at STI, with liability insurance included, for less than $30 / day. Splitting it with my buddy, that's $15 / day each. That was just too cheap to pass up. I'll do my best not to end up in jail!I rent a car from Alamo 70 percent of the time in the DR, and its no problem. Make sure you check the spare and don't rent one of those cheap cars that looks like an egg. The cops know cheap gringos rent those. If you get pulled just play "dumb gringo" and they will get frustrated and move on. I've been reading your posts and you seem like a defensive driver. Watch for motochonchos turning left in front of you from the right shoulder lane. Slow down when you see kids playing near the street and be prepared if that kid does some stupid shit. The open roads are cool to roll. Don't give cops the "I hope he doesn't fuck with me " look.

If something does happen involving a person its best to take him to the clinic and pay him off. If he goes to the hospital the police will get involved. Don't drive on the north coast at night. It has many roads there that are deserted and very lonely should you have an emergency. Pot holes will pop up out of nowhere at night. SD has more traffic and people and more safe to me at night. But trolling the streets of SD now has become risky because of the new law.

The secret is that you can meet some nice girls on the side of the road needing a ride. If they are going to work trade numbers and hook something up for later. Some might be up for a quickie at the cabana to make money that would take them two weeks of work on their low paying job. You seem like a mellow dude so you will have a ball. Don't be one of those ass holes that goes to the DR to play tough and disrespect the people and the culture. There is to much value in going with the flow than going against it.

[Marc Anthony]

Hmmm. At first, my main concern was of the car getting broken into while I was at the beach, and dealing with the hassle of insurance claims. Of course, I would never rent the car while in a metro area, like San Jose CR or Santo Domingo. That's crazy. But I have rented cars in Mexico (Cabos) and Costa Rica whenever I was on the coast, and have never had problems. I just make sure to drive only in the daytime, and very very conservatively. I always make sure that I am covered with insurance, both collision and liability. I'll be driving to the beach and back to whatever hotel / resort. Going to party at night, we would probably take a cab anyway, even with the rental car.

This is only my second time to the DR. I suppose someone who has been there many times and knows the "system" can manage. But if I am basically driving to and from the airport, and along the main coastal road, is it really that big a risk? Is it a type of thing where you have heard some horror stories, etc. Or is it a truly common thing for tourists to get in trouble with their cars along the coast? Are police officers routinely actively trying to screw tourists, like in some parts of Mexico?Http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/07/a-map-of-the-countries-with-the-most-dangerous-roads/

The DR is THE most dangerous country for highway fatalities on the planet currently. A drunk moto concho runs into you while you are standing still, you go to jail until they sort things out. In jail you and several dozen new close friends and a bucket share a small cell.

Lot's of guys report driving all the time with no problems but don't go into it thinking the biggest problem is getting the car broken into at the beach. Yes the police routinely try to squeeze bribes but if you have an accident everybody will line up to share the jackpot.

Read some of the reports about driving accident adventures so you are properly paranoid and not doing it without a clue about the risks.

Notice from the map in the Washington Post story that Mexico and Costa Rica aren't in the same league.

[Mr Enternational]

When I was at FOD I talked to a guy who visits the DR frequently and he has not once, but twice hit moto driverswhile driving a rental car,And what did that guy say happened to him?

[Questner]

Ok, I'll let report on how the rental went. Hopefully it goes fine.

BTW, if anyone else is thinking about it, I got my rental at Alamo at STI, with liability insurance included, for less than $30 / day. Splitting it with my buddy, that's $15 / day each. That was just too cheap to pass up. I'll do my best not to end up in jail!I have done a quote on Alamo US site 4 days mid week in August 5 to 9, 2013 for example:

Chevy Spark 0. 8 (or similar)

4 Day (s) at17. 10 USD68. 40

Airport Fee 10 Pct (10. 0%) USD 19. 12

Veh License Recovery Fee. 95 / day USD 3. 80

Sales Tax (18. 0%) USD 37. 86

UNLIMITED MILEAGE INCLUDED

Collision Damage Waiver-Theft Protection (USD 19. 50 / Day (s) USD 78. 00 (This one includes 3rd party liability!)

Deductible Protection (USD 6. 50 / Day (s) USD 26. 00

Tire and Windshield Protection (USD 3. 75 / Day (s) USD 15. 00

Estimated Total USD248. 18

There are only ways, or your vehicle is not properly insured, or you know where to cut on the quote (like airport fee and taxes etc, however unlikely if taken from Alamo at STI).

[Parkinsons]

Http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/07/a-map-of-the-countries-with-the-most-dangerous-roads/

The DR is THE most dangerous country for highway fatalities on the planet currently.If the stats (I haven't read the article) don't distinguish between accidents in passenger vehicles, buses, or motorcycles; then the argument could be made that it would be SAFEST in the DR to drive a late model rental car with all the first world safety features (airbags, anti-lock brakes, seatbelts, etc) than to ride in a taxi (usually a 10+ yr-old beat-up car) or a guagua (no seatbelts, high center of gravity hence tendency to flip over) and most definitely than on a motoconcho (100% no helmet if you're a tourist).


That is why I commented on your saying "accidents are not my main concern". They should be. Easier to replace your billfold than your legs.For this reason I will take a perceived risk of getting tangled up with the local police for bribes, than to risk my life and limbs on the back of a motoconcho.

Full disclosure: I don't rent cars all the time in the DR. My preferred mode of transportation is the guagua.

[Manizales911]

And what did that guy say happened to him?He threw $60. At one of the guys and took off, I don't think he told me what he did in the other incident. This guy was an experienced DR traveler and knew enough to not wait around for the police, he is a member here so maybe he will chime in.

[Manny51]

Http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/07/a-map-of-the-countries-with-the-most-dangerous-roads/

The DR is THE most dangerous country for highway fatalities on the planet currently. A drunk moto concho runs into you while you are standing still, you go to jail until they sort things out. In jail you and several dozen new close friends and a bucket share a small cell.

Lot's of guys report driving all the time with no problems but don't go into it thinking the biggest problem is getting the car broken into at the beach. Yes the police routinely try to squeeze bribes but if you have an accident everybody will line up to share the jackpot.

Read some of the reports about driving accident adventures so you are properly paranoid and not doing it without a clue about the risks.

Notice from the map in the Washington Post story that Mexico and Costa Rica aren't in the same league.Marc Anthony,

Thanks for the article! Wow, this is scary stuff. I am actually reconsidering now.

Its just that cabs are SO expensive. STI to Cabarete is $75! I could easily see racking up $300 in taxi fare over a few days.

If I rent a car, then I will be the one entangled in the police report. If I am riding the motoconcho, then I'll be the dead one. Doesn't seem like there are any good options.

Anyone else, please chime in, especially if you have rented a car before!

[Manny51]

I have done a quote on Alamo US site 4 days mid week in August 5 to 9, 2013 for example:

Chevy Spark 0. 8 (or similar)

4 Day (s) at17. 10 USD68. 40

Airport Fee 10 Pct (10. 0%) USD 19. 12

Veh License Recovery Fee. 95 / day USD 3. 80

Sales Tax (18. 0%) USD 37. 86

UNLIMITED MILEAGE INCLUDED

Collision Damage Waiver-Theft Protection (USD 19. 50 / Day (s) USD 78. 00 (This one includes 3rd party liability!)

Deductible Protection (USD 6. 50 / Day (s) USD 26. 00

Tire and Windshield Protection (USD 3. 75 / Day (s) USD 15. 00

Estimated Total USD248. 18

There are only ways, or your vehicle is not properly insured, or you know where to cut on the quote (like airport fee and taxes etc, however unlikely if taken from Alamo at STI).I don't know why your quote is so expensive. I just went to Alamo. Com. I checked the box to decline collision. The credit card covers tires and windshield and undercarriage. The whole car. I called to check. But they don't supply liability, so I did buy that. The quote says all taxes and fees included. I also had an coupon code that reduced the daily rate from 17 to 15.

[Manny51]

I rent a car from Alamo 70 percent of the time in the DR, and its no problem. Make sure you check the spare and don't rent one of those cheap cars that looks like an egg. The cops know cheap gringos rent those. If you get pulled just play "dumb gringo" and they will get frustrated and move on. I've been reading your posts and you seem like a defensive driver. Watch for motochonchos turning left in front of you from the right shoulder lane. Slow down when you see kids playing near the street and be prepared if that kid does some stupid shit. The open roads are cool to roll. Don't give cops the "I hope he doesn't fuck with me " look.

If something does happen involving a person its best to take him to the clinic and pay him off. If he goes to the hospital the police will get involved. Don't drive on the north coast at night. It has many roads there that are deserted and very lonely should you have an emergency. Pot holes will pop up out of nowhere at night. SD has more traffic and people and more safe to me at night. But trolling the streets of SD now has become risky because of the new law.

The secret is that you can meet some nice girls on the side of the road needing a ride. If they are going to work trade numbers and hook something up for later. Some might be up for a quickie at the cabana to make money that would take them two weeks of work on their low paying job. You seem like a mellow dude so you will have a ball. Don't be one of those ass holes that goes to the DR to play tough and disrespect the people and the culture. There is to much value in going with the flow than going against it.'

Mr. Gogo,

Thanks for the great advice! I just upgraded my car. Still only $136!

BTW, what did you mean by "the open roads are cool to roll?"

[Charles Pooter]

i am actually reconsidering now.despite your unfriendly reply to me because i was not saying what you wanted to hear, i was not necessarily advising you not to rent. many of our regular and sensible posters have been doing so for years and have experienced no great problems.

i was only advising you to inform yourself of the issues. it seems that you are now doing that from much good info posted, so i am happy.


its just that cabs are so expensive.they are. if you are in a group of three or more it is no big deal because the cabs charge by mile and not by number of passengers, so even an expensive fare split three or more ways can be the best option.

and even if you are solo, some cabs are cheaper than others, as manizales has written.

one option is look to share with other mongers staying at the same location. they will often fancy an outing if they can split costs.

another tip is to rent a dedicated publico where available (that is, at the sosua or puerto plata paradas or if you spot an empty one on the road). you should be able to negotiate them at half the price of a private cab. sosua to blackbeards is 1000 pesos by private cab and 500 in a dedicated publico. doesn't work the other way though, as publicos are not allowed into costambar to pick up passengers.


doesn't seem like there are any good options.there are no perfect options because this a third world shithole run by crooks and imbeciles. but some options are better than others and the best approach is to pick the appropriate means of transport for each journey.

(1) anywhere along the main road from san juan to santiago, use publicos or guaguas. fast and very cheap. for greater comfort pay for two adjacent seats (an option not always available unless you are boarding at the terminus, in which case pay for both "halves" of the bucket front seat).

(2) short local trips away from the main roads or within towns, use a moto. avoid using them along main roads or in heavy traffic. avoid taking one to lonely locations or you could get scammed or mugged. i always look for a veteran driver, ideally wearing a helmet and with wing mirrors. less likely to drive with macho competitive spirit or be on drugs.

(3) longer trips from sosua or puerto plata city to destinations well away from the main road, go to the publico terminus and hire a dedicated publico. negotiate the price in advance, not more than half what a private taxi has quoted you.

(4) staying at blackbeards? you are fucked. no cheap and easy way to get off campus and worse trying to get back at night. cheapest option by day is to walk or take a moto to the main gate and then catch a jc publico from there to pto pta, then change again according to where you want to go. but harder to get back as the jcs don't run at night, so a taxi is your best bet.

and so on, i cannot list every permutation as i don't know your itinerary, but horses for courses.


i always make sure that i am covered with insurance, both collision and liability
sorry, this is not the right answer. most policies won't cover you against the biggest risk (not in likelihood but in magnitude). read what i said below about the casa del conductor.

three(?) years back one of our members had to pay about us$10,000 to get out of jail after a minor incident in which he was only technically partly to blame. the moto driver he hit was overtaking him at speed on the wrong side. he went through hell and as far as i know has never driven here since. it is all posted here in detail.

incidentally, had he followed some advice about the route which i had posted on another board of which we were both members, he wouldn't have had the accident in the first place, but some guys just won't be told.

[Combo]

Marc Anthony,

Thanks for the article! Wow, this is scary stuff. I am actually reconsidering now.

Its just that cabs are SO expensive. STI to Cabarete is $75! I could easily see racking up $300 in taxi fare over a few days.

If I rent a car, then I will be the one entangled in the police report. If I am riding the motoconcho, then I'll be the dead one. Doesn't seem like there are any good options.

Anyone else, please chime in, especially if you have rented a car before!The Metro and Caribe busses run from STI to Sosua. I can't vouch for Caribe, but I've taken Metro several times and they are great. Not sure if they go on to Cabarete. I have also taken a taxi from STI to Sosua and bargained them down to $80 (from initla $100 asking price). I try to avoid Motos even in Sosua . I'd never take them on the open road.

[Charles Pooter]

Not sure if they go on to Cabarete.No, they don't.


I try to avoid Motos even in Sosua. I'd never take them on the open road.I think you mean "especially" in Sosua. Motos in Sosua are more expensive than elsewhere and the drivers are mostly scum. What do you expect? It's Sosua.

Motoconchistas in Puerto Plata are generally a much nicer bunch and there are a couple I trust with thousands of pesos to shop or pay biils.

I have ridden motos in Puerto Plata at least five thousand times. I have had one accident and only twisted my ankle a bit. I was very lucky though, as the driver was hurt worse and his bike wrecked. But then he wasn't a regular motoconchista, just a puta's' pimp doing me a "favor".

Where I live and with my commitments I have to use motos regularly but I cannot pretend they are not dangerous and I never try to persuade newbies to ride one if they are at all nervous about it. I try to minimise the danger by:

- picking a grizzled driver because the locos don't survive to middle age.

- choosing one who wears a helmet and has rear-view mirrors as it means he is safety conscious.

- if the road is wet I pay them double to drive real slow.

- having a selection of trusted drivers on my phone, an option only open to ex-pats and regular visitors

- like Combo, rarely use them for main road trips

- choosing a Haitian driver where available. They are more careful because they know if they are involved in an incident, no Dominican will give them a fair break

[Manny51]

Despite your unfriendly reply to me because I was not saying what you wanted to hear, I was not necessarily advising you not to rent. Many of our regular and sensible posters have been doing so for years and have experienced no great problems.

Incidentally, had he followed some advice about the route which I had posted on another board of which we were both members, he wouldn't have had the accident in the first place, but some guys just won't be told.Although I do appreciate your input, go back and read your own initial post to decide who was being snide first.

I just don't get guys who roam these forums, looking to lash out at people who are asking questions they don't approve of.

[Mr Gogo]

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Mr. Gogo,

Thanks for the great advice! I just upgraded my car. Still only $136!

BTW, what did you mean by "the open roads are cool to roll?"The open roads are where there arent any houses, animals, or people. Just fall in behind a Dominican driving an Suv and roll behind them. They are familiar with the curves and potholes. If driving from STI there are two ways. One I can't recommend to a first time DR driver is through the mountains. It comes out closer to Sosua but is dangerous. Take the main highway through Confesori and Puerto Plata, its much better.

[Questner]

I don't know why your quote is so expensive. I just went to Alamo. Com. I checked the box to decline collision. The credit card covers tires and windshield and undercarriage. The whole car. I called to check. But they don't supply liability, so I did buy that. The quote says all taxes and fees included. I also had an coupon code that reduced the daily rate from 17 to 15.In simple terms one has to buy Collision Damage Waiver-Theft Protection (USD 19. 50 per Day including 3rd party liability) if CC balance is not sufficient to cover theft or total loss, or buy only Casa de Conductor (I. E 3rd party liability for $9 per day) if CC balance is sufficient to cover theft or total loss and the agreement stipulates this with all small print understood.

[Manny51]

In simple terms one has to buy Collision Damage Waiver-Theft Protection (USD 19. 50 per Day including 3rd party liability) if CC balance is not sufficient to cover theft or total loss, or buy only Casa de Conductor (I. E 3rd party liability for $9 per day) if CC balance is sufficient to cover theft or total loss and the agreement stipulates this with all small print understood.I checked all my credit cards. They cover the full value of the car (up to 50k) plus loss of use. Buying CDW is what screws you. Thats an extra 20 per day.

Maybe you should get some new credit cards. Any Amex or platinum mastercard should do the trick.

[Questner]

I checked all my credit cards. They cover the full value of the car (up to 50k) plus loss of use. Buying CDW is what screws you. Thats an extra 20 per day.

Maybe you should get some new credit cards. Any Amex or platinum mastercard should do the trick.You miss my point. Without CDW unless the company successfully charges the full amount on your CC in case of a loss, you are screwed, stuck in the country and a stop on your exit will be put in place. Without a proper balance one is screwed by a definition of insufficient balance. With a sufficient balance CC company won't rush to pay until the investigation is finished and it will take time, and by that time your flight will be gone and a vacation extended. Since a Casa de Conductor is as sane as wearing a condom, consider extra $10 bucks of total loss protection as lube. Declining CDW is OK in your home country but not in DR.

[Manny51]

You miss my point. Without CDW unless the company successfully charges the full amount on your CC in case of a loss, you are screwed, stuck in the country and a stop on your exit will be put in place. Without a proper balance one is screwed by a definition of insufficient balance. With a sufficient balance CC company won't rush to pay until the investigation is finished and it will take time, and by that time your flight will be gone and a vacation extended. Since a Casa de Conductor is as sane as wearing a condom, consider extra $10 bucks of total loss protection as lube. Declining CDW is OK in your home country but not in DR.OK, I understand your point. So what is a Casa de Conductor?

BTW, I also always buy travel insurance for my trips, which includes CDW up to $35k. That should pay off the balance so that I could leave the country. But I will have to confirm that.

Thanks for the advice.

[Marc Anthony]

OK, I understand your point. So what is a Casa de Conductor?

BTW, I also always buy travel insurance for my trips, which includes CDW up to $35k. That should pay off the balance so that I could leave the country. But I will have to confirm that.

Thanks for the advice.The Casa de Conductor is a hotel-like accomodation near the jail where you can be housed instead of at the jail (which is not like a US jail). It's intended for professional drivers but is available to anyone who buys the insurance rider. It's a side bet to make your experience less nightmarish if you get in an accident.

[Questner]

OK, I understand your point. So what is a Casa de Conductor?

BTW, I also always buy travel insurance for my trips, which includes CDW up to $35k. That should pay off the balance so that I could leave the country. But I will have to confirm that.

Thanks for the advice.Casa de Conductor read here: http://www.insurance-sosua.com/pes/?idp=37

CMA Casa de Conductor Dominican Republic/

Protective custody.

The use of protective custody?

Imagine you are involved in a car accident with heavy injured or dead people. The Police and the victims don't have comprehension and you should go to a local prison until the case is cleared. Also the law is not executed the same way in the provinces then in the capital cities like Santo Domingo or Santiago.

Here begins the protective custody. You will brought to a complex similar to a hotel. You will be save till the evidence / guarantee procedural. There are only two in the Dominican Republic which are located in two mayor cities. There it is assured that the law is respected more accurately.

The C M A protective custody is included in every full- or semi full insurance. In the basic liability insurance this is a useful addition for personal safety. We recommend this insurance for everybody who travels a lot around the Island.

Your claim:

•The Police Report will be filled out by the authorized Officers of the relevant district were the accident happen or in the C M A Casa de Conductor, in case of necessity (Provinces).

•To guarantee that the responsible Police, Doctors and Prosecutor (Fiscal) and the Justice of peace approved the case in the right way.

•The guarantee or penalty will be deposited at the local tax authority (Rentas Internas ).

•In case heavy injury or death is involved the C M A protective custody in Santiago or Santo Domingo takes action.

•The service is 24 hours and 365 days a year available. You will be picket up from every point of the island and brought to C M A Casa de Conductores.

The C M A Casa de Conductores (House of drivers)

Protective custody in single rooms with air condition, Bath, Full board, Medical help. Hair saloon, Pool, Bar in the House. Visiting hours till 08:30 pm.

! Attention!

If you get involved into a traffic accident, please call immediately and inform the police that you have an additional C M A Casa de Conductore insurance. Then the transport to C M A house of drivers can begin, were ever on the island you are. If your own car is not operating we will provide one.

Be aware that at Night and on Weekends Offices are closed and the Casa de Conductor can be a helpful tool, in case of custody or violence by local authorities! In any case your insurance will be checked for coverage.

Requirement for C M A additional insurance

Running Liability insurance, Copy of car titel (Matricula) , Recite of C M A insurance.

[EarlOHara]

Okay so this is my first trip to DR and I could use a lot of advice. I am going solo for starters. I will be flying into STI and then taking a private car to my hotel (Perla de Sosua, in Sosua) because apparently the buses won't be running at the time my flight arrives. I saw a lot of recent info about renting cars and what not, which does not concern me as I will not be renting one. I am more interested in knowing good spots to pick up some attractive chicas without dropping a fortune in Sosua. I am also going to be staying at one of those all inclusives during my last 4 days in Puerto plata in Confresi (Crown Villas) , where nearby can I find some nice hot tail? Is there any cat houses or the like that someone knows of by name. I have seen a lot of mention to BB's, is this Black beards? If so, what is the deal, I visited the website and it talks about how it is an adult full service resort, and that the want to give you a pleasurable experience, blah blah blah. What I want to know is are there girls on premises for your pleasure. Because it don't say it does nor does it post any pricing for services like with passions. Like I said, first timer here, could use a lot of suggestions of the where's, eat, drink, girls, plain old fun. BTW I am thinking of heading down to Santo Domingo for a few days too, so any advice there would be helpful.

[Chris Long]

Okay so this is my first trip to DR and I could use a lot of advice. I am going solo for starters. I will be flying into STI and then taking a private car to my hotel (Perla de Sosua, in Sosua) because apparently the buses won't be running at the time my flight arrives. I saw a lot of recent info about renting cars and what not, which does not concern me as I will not be renting one. I am more interested in knowing good spots to pick up some attractive chicas without dropping a fortune in Sosua. I am also going to be staying at one of those all inclusives during my last 4 days in Puerto plata in Confresi (Crown Villas) , where nearby can I find some nice hot tail? Is there any cat houses or the like that someone knows of by name. I have seen a lot of mention to BB's, is this Black beards? If so, what is the deal, I visited the website and it talks about how it is an adult full service resort, and that the want to give you a pleasurable experience, blah blah blah. What I want to know is are there girls on premises for your pleasure. Because it don't say it does nor does it post any pricing for services like with passions. Like I said, first timer here, could use a lot of suggestions of the where's, eat, drink, girls, plain old fun. BTW I am thinking of heading down to Santo Domingo for a few days too, so any advice there would be helpful.RTFF, serously though everything you ask has been discussed in great detail on here. In Sosua you will find freelancers and La Passions and CMP club there is a strip of bars about a block long with bars on both sides of the street that are loaded with freelancers every night. The street is Pedro Clisiente (sp?) the strip begins at the corner of Pedro Clisiente and Dr Rosen drive and runs for a block with Rumba and D Latin being the main bars at night with freelancers. Prices for freelancers are 1500 pesos for short time an hour or two and 3000 for long time, all night. The girls will ask for much, much more if they think you are a newbee and don't know anything, but they will all take the above price if you hold your ground. La Passions and CMP are also on Pedro Clisiente but in the opposit direction of the strip and have set house prices. You can also find freelancers along the beach durring the day and the price for them will be the same.

Black Beards is in Puerto Plata and is all inclusive there are two shifts of girls from 11 am until 6 pm and 6 pm until midnight, there are about a dozen or so girls in each shift. Price is 1600 pesos for two hours and 3000 for all night.

Santo Domingo will be big disapointment after being in Sosua and BB. Santo Domingo has a few casas and a few, freelancers on the street. The casas can run you anywhere from 2000 to 3500. Many claim they do pretty good with none P4P chicas in Santo Domingo, I personally never had any luck in that catagory but if you have looks and / or game with some Spanish you may have better luck. Right now there is a government movement of such to crack down on prostitution and most of that crack down seems to be centered in Santo Domingo. Personally I am going to put Santo Domingo on the back burner until I see how that plays out.

PS: don't over pay the girls in Sosua and drive up the price for the rest of us. If you do I am going to find you tear up your passport and ban you from the island (LOL).

Chris

[JLA1125]

Okay so this is my first trip to DR and I could use a lot of advice. I am going solo for starters. I will be flying into STI and then taking a private car to my hotel (Perla de Sosua, in Sosua) because apparently the buses won't be running at the time my flight arrives. I saw a lot of recent info about renting cars and what not, which does not concern me as I will not be renting one. I am more interested in knowing good spots to pick up some attractive chicas without dropping a fortune in Sosua. I am also going to be staying at one of those all inclusives during my last 4 days in Puerto plata in Confresi (Crown Villas) , where nearby can I find some nice hot tail? Is there any cat houses or the like that someone knows of by name. I have seen a lot of mention to BB's, is this Black beards?...I recommend subscribing to the BB newsletter on their website. You'll get a lot more information.

[OldKool]

Everything you need to know is on this forum. Take the time to read and you will have what you need. Black Beards and FOD are must sees and some time in Sosua. You are in for the time of your life. I would not suggest SD unless your spanish skills are decent. Puerto Plato has BB and FOD very close by. Sosua is the best spot it has scores of women and is very inexpensive. You need to know that you have no knowledge at this time. Study up a bit and you will be in great shape.


Okay so this is my first trip to DR and I could use a lot of advice. I am going solo for starters. I will be flying into STI and then taking a private car to my hotel (Perla de Sosua, in Sosua) because apparently the buses won't be running at the time my flight arrives. I saw a lot of recent info about renting cars and what not, which does not concern me as I will not be renting one. I am more interested in knowing good spots to pick up some attractive chicas without dropping a fortune in Sosua. I am also going to be staying at one of those all inclusives during my last 4 days in Puerto plata in Confresi (Crown Villas) , where nearby can I find some nice hot tail? Is there any cat houses or the like that someone knows of by name. I have seen a lot of mention to BB's, is this Black beards? If so, what is the deal, I visited the website and it talks about how it is an adult full service resort, and that the want to give you a pleasurable experience, blah blah blah. What I want to know is are there girls on premises for your pleasure. Because it don't say it does nor does it post any pricing for services like with passions. Like I said, first timer here, could use a lot of suggestions of the where's, eat, drink, girls, plain old fun. BTW I am thinking of heading down to Santo Domingo for a few days too, so any advice there would be helpful.

[Bliadun]

Amount of chicas in each shift depends on how many guests are staying at the hotel.

When hotel is full there could be more than 20 chicas in each shift.


Black Beards is in Puerto Plata and is all inclusive there are two shifts of girls from 11 am until 6 pm and 6 pm until midnight, there are about a dozen or so girls in each shift. Price is 1600 pesos for two hours and 3000 for all night.

Chris

[Peppy007]

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mr. gogo,

thanks for the great advice! i just upgraded my car. still only $136!

btw, what did you mean by "the open roads are cool to roll?"hey manny. you was curious. did you rent a suv or a sedan. i always recommend an suv as any of the roads in dr are uneven.

i hope you have a good time. luckily i've never been injured or injured another motorist. the one time i crashed into one i informed him i had car rental insurance. showed him my papers as i do here in the states. he declined to pursue it as it was only a small fender bender. i truly believe he was expecting me to pay him off on the spot. my only expense was the deductible for the damage on my rental. maybe i've been lucky.

in any case enjoy your trip. like someone else advised you already, don't speed, don't drink and drive, and watch out for motorcycles. if i do rent again i'll check out alamo. that price you quoted was nice. i used budget before.

[Manny51]

hey manny. you was curious. did you rent a suv or a sedan. i always recommend an suv as any of the roads in dr are uneven.

i hope you have a good time. luckily i've never been injured or injured another motorist. the one time i crashed into one i informed him i had car rental insurance. showed him my papers as i do here in the states. he declined to pursue it as it was only a small fender bender. i truly believe he was expecting me to pay him off on the spot. my only expense was the deductible for the damage on my rental. maybe i've been lucky.

in any case enjoy your trip. like someone else advised you already, don't speed, don't drink and drive, and watch out for motorcycles. if i do rent again i'll check out alamo. that price you quoted was nice. i used budget before.from a financial perspective, its cheap as long as you don't get the cdw. most credit cards cover it. i also always buy travellers insurance on any international trip. most people don't realize that their health insurance does not extend to foreign countries. so if you get sick or injured overseas, you are absolutely screwed. i always buy insurance from a company called "world nomads." its the biggest and most popular travel insurance company out there, and their main policy includes auto rental cdw. so if you are going to pay for cdw, might as well get the travellers.

i can't speak about problems with getting in accidents and cops in the dr, though. that problem is dr specific. i'll let you know how it goes.

[Germanicus]

I've been trying to email their info address but it keeps bouncing back.

Has FOD closed?

[ThunderStar]

It's still open.

Fieldofdreams dot com and it appears to be clean, tidy and a decent place to party these days.

I remember years ago. Billy Lane used to own the place and was a great tour guide, these days FOD is a little more upmarket!

[Grub1]

Thanks Manizales! Looking forward to your report.

One quick question though, as I am finalizing my plans. I am thinking strongly of renting a car. I went to be able to go the 27 waterfalls, and kiteboarding / surfing when I want. I will base in either FOD or Oxygen.

I see that you have been there many times. Do you think that renting a car is a good idea? The local taxi fares seem pricey, something like $44 just to check out BB. Splitting it with a friend of mine, by my calculation, a rental car would be a great deal. Is there something that I am missing?

My main concern is vandalism and theft, not accidents. I would only drive on the main coastal road and have no intention of going inland. Do cars get vandalized or broken into left and right?

Also, my trip will coincide with the Merengue festival in SD. Have you been there before, and it is the festival worth it? Its weird, everything I read about the festival said it is over 2 weeks long, but this year, it is only 2 days long. It seems that it might be dying.

Thanks in advance!If you have driven in third world countries or Atlanta New York or in any other big city and you feel comfortable then I think you will be fine. For me I always rent a automobile and when I see mongers on the street sweating there balls off I remember why it was a good Idea and it is so much easier when you meet that perfect chica to just jump in the auto and get to having fun they usually start playing with your dick and balls before you ever make it to where you are going. It will make your waterfall trip much better you can get there early before all the taxis and busses. But do be careful these guy; s are not bullshiting when they say a lot of people on this board have really fucked up. A auto is good also when it rains

[Manny51]

If you have driven in third world countries or Atlanta New York or in any other big city and you feel comfortable then I think you will be fine. For me I always rent a automobile and when I see mongers on the street sweating there balls off I remember why it was a good Idea and it is so much easier when you meet that perfect chica to just jump in the auto and get to having fun they usually start playing with your dick and balls before you ever make it to where you are going. It will make your waterfall trip much better you can get there early before all the taxis and busses. But do be careful these guy; s are not bullshiting when they say a lot of people on this board have really fucked up. A auto is good also when it rainsThanks Grub1!

I was only planning on driving in the day, to and from the beach and tourist sites, and never after beers. If going to sosua, I would probably take a taxi even with the car. I would guess that cops are more after mongers than garden variety tourists.

Any other tips to avoid accidents or cop troubles would be greatly appreciated!

[Grub1]

OK, I understand your point. So what is a Casa de Conductor?

BTW, I also always buy travel insurance for my trips, which includes CDW up to $35k. That should pay off the balance so that I could leave the country. But I will have to confirm that.

Thanks for the advice.Always travel with atleast 5 dollars inn your passport so when or if you do get stopped by police you will already have your tip ready for them. This will make things much eaiser

[Peppy007]

Always travel with atleast 5 dollars inn your passport so when or if you do get stopped by police you will already have your tip ready for them. This will make things much eaiserI give them $100 pesos. When I know I haven't broken any laws and I'm in a hurry. If you don't speak Spanish there is a chance they may not even bother with you.

[Sammon]

If you have driven in third world countries or Atlanta New York or in any other big city and you feel comfortable then I think you will be fine. For me I always rent a automobile and when I see mongers on the street sweating there balls off I remember why it was a good Idea and it is so much easier when you meet that perfect chica to just jump in the auto and get to having fun they usually start playing with your dick and balls before you ever make it to where you are going. It will make your waterfall trip much better you can get there early before all the taxis and busses. But do be careful these guy; s are not bullshiting when they say a lot of people on this board have really fucked up. A auto is good also when it rainsI have always rented a car in DR. It is not dangerous to drive there. Yes, there are roadblocks sometimes. Roadblocks are usually in the daytime. Police just check the rental papers and the licence and let you go. Only problem is there are potholes which you do not see at night. I had my car wheel bent on one occasion. But local people helped changing to spare.

Advantages of renting the car is many. Chicas love to ride with you. I have picked up many local girls. Have the freedom to drive anywhere. Have visited girls home and meet the family. It is a fun experience.

[Grub1]

I have always rented a car in DR. It is not dangerous to drive there. Yes, there are roadblocks sometimes. Roadblocks are usually in the daytime. Police just check the rental papers and the licence and let you go. Only problem is there are potholes which you do not see at night. I had my car wheel bent on one occasion. But local people helped changing to spare.

Advantages of renting the car is many. Chicas love to ride with you. I have picked up many local girls. Have the freedom to drive anywhere. Have visited girls home and meet the family. It is a fun experience.I have drove past FOD many time's but never stopped. Do they have good security for your auto?

When I was in Sosua I went to passions 1st thing they had good security for auto's but the price to lay with the girls was too much money but I had travelled a long way and was ready for some ass so I paid it but only1 time then it was street girls or places that did not charge over 1500. The day I went to Passion's they were training a bunch of new girl's it was funny listening to them tell the girl's how to suck a dick and fuck

[Grub1]

despite your unfriendly reply to me because i was not saying what you wanted to hear, i was not necessarily advising you not to rent. many of our regular and sensible posters have been doing so for years and have experienced no great problems.

i was only advising you to inform yourself of the issues. it seems that you are now doing that from much good info posted, so i am happy.

they are. if you are in a group of three or more it is no big deal because the cabs charge by mile and not by number of passengers, so even an expensive fare split three or more ways can be the best option.

and even if you are solo, some cabs are cheaper than others, as manizales has written.

one option is look to share with other mongers staying at the same location. they will often fancy an outing if they can split costs.

another tip is to rent a dedicated publico where available (that is, at the sosua or puerto plata paradas or if you spot an empty one on the road). you should be able to negotiate them at half the price of a private cab. sosua to blackbeards is 1000 pesos by private cab and 500 in a dedicated publico. doesn't work the other way though, as publicos are not allowed into costambar to pick up passengers.

there are no perfect options because this a third world shithole run by crooks and imbeciles. but some options are better than others and the best approach is to pick the appropriate means of transport for each journey.

(1) anywhere along the main road from san juan to santiago, use publicos or guaguas. fast and very cheap. for greater comfort pay for two adjacent seats (an option not always available unless you are boarding at the terminus, in which case pay for both "halves" of the bucket front seat).

(2) short local trips away from the main roads or within towns, use a moto. avoid using them along main roads or in heavy traffic. avoid taking one to lonely locations or you could get scammed or mugged. i always look for a veteran driver, ideally wearing a helmet and with wing mirrors. less likely to drive with macho competitive spirit or be on drugs.

(3) longer trips from sosua or puerto plata city to destinations well away from the main road, go to the publico terminus and hire a dedicated publico. negotiate the price in advance, not more than half what a private taxi has quoted you.

(4) staying at blackbeards? you are fucked. no cheap and easy way to get off campus and worse trying to get back at night. cheapest option by day is to walk or take a moto to the main gate and then catch a jc publico from there to pto pta, then change again according to where you want to go. but harder to get back as the jcs don't run at night, so a taxi is your best bet.

and so on, i cannot list every permutation as i don't know your itinerary, but horses for courses.

sorry, this is not the right answer. most policies won't cover you against the biggest risk (not in likelihood but in magnitude). read what i said below about the casa del conductor.

three (?) years back one of our members had to pay about us$10, 000 to get out of jail after a minor incident in which he was only technically partly to blame. the moto driver he hit was overtaking him at speed on the wrong side. he went through hell and as far as i know has never driven here since. it is all posted here in detail.

incidentally, had he followed some advice about the route which i had posted on another board of which we were both members, he wouldn't have had the accident in the first place, but some guys just won't be told.charles pooter by looking at the haiti gallery it looks like you had a good time in 2009. did you pick up the ladies in the city or in the countryside?

have you travelled to haiti this year?

[Charles Pooter]

Charles Pooter by looking at the Haiti gallery it looks like you had a good time in 2009. Did you pick up the ladies in the city or in the countryside?I have never travelled to Haiti for mongering so I think you are confusing me with someone else.

Why did you quote a long post from me about driving in the DR just to ask a short question about Haiti?

[Grub1]

I have never travelled to Haiti for mongering so I think you are confusing me with someone else.

Why did you quote a long post from me about driving in the DR just to ask a short question about Haiti?Charles pooter I was only looking at photo's and not reading post in the Haiti forum for 2009. Now that I went back and read the post I now know you were only posting photo's there.

Well after reading a lot of your post I decided you were the man to ask Haiti questions so when I thought of it I just went to the 1st post I saw with your name on it. No disrespect intended.

Thanks for all post

[Phaedrus42]

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[Phaedrus42]

Having just migrated our web site to a new server (because of an explosion of traffic in the last year. Thanks, in part, to the ISG members) , our site is having issues with Internet Explorer. All other browsers work fine, though. Until we can figure out why, please use any other means to access our site (Google Chrome, Firefox, iPad, etc.). We apologize for any inconvenience this causes. But are working on the problems.The site is back online and working just fine.

[Maskier]

Hi,

Have anyone here used Tour69 adult vacations?

Weren't able to find any report / review.

Hope this is not in breach of any rules.

[Charles Pooter]

Hi,

Have anyone here used Tour69 adult vacations?Never heard of this one. Is it located in Puerto Plata? Does it have a website? Where did you hear of it?

Most of these operations, the guy just adds his commission to stuff you could do for yourself for the same price.

One that was fairly priced was "The Man Tour" based in Pto Pta. He did not rip people off, but there was still no point in using him for anyone with minimal Spanish and some common sense. Haven't heard of him for four years. Is he still going?

Reading the monger boards should tell you all you need to know for a great, and reasonably priced, mongering holiday.

Anyone who is still not confident they can cope on their own would be best advised to stay at Blackbeards or Field of Dreams. You cannot go far wrong at either of those places. But if you fancy something more adventurous or varied, grow a pair, not hire a nanny.

[Niceb]

I've never been to F. O. D nor BB nor whatever but I try to know what's going on in my playfield.

In a newsletter they say they are confident of the future of their business because they are one of the few to have an "Adult Resort" Licence.

[Charles Pooter]

In a newsletter they say they are confident of the future of their business because they are one of the few to have an "Adult Resort" Licence.To paraphrase Mandy Rice-Davies,"Well, they would say that, wouldn't they".

[Manizales911]

Never heard of this one. Is it located in Puerto Plata? Does it have a website? Where did you hear of it?This is it:

http://www.tour69.com/

Their prices are laughable.

[Manny51]

ok, since this topic of 'driving in the dr' seems to have engendered substantial interest since my original inquiry, i thought that i would follow up with my thoughts having just returned from the dr.

so i picked up my car from sti airport and drove to the north coast passing through multiple destinations, including playa dorada, sosua, and ultimately, cabarete. i took some much valued advice from responders to my question, and rented a compact (the second to the smallest car). i drove the highway route, meaning highways 1 and 5, not the mountain route highway 25. the highway route from sti to sosua takes two hours. the highways were generally in good condition, and have either 1 or 2 lanes in each direction. a few potholes here and there, but nothing that i was wary of.

the advantages of the car were many. all of the towns of puerto plata, sosua, cabarete, are about 8-10 miles apart. it also seems a little farther than that because you can't really drive that fast. if you plan on planting at only one place, like sosua, then i suppose that taking a taxi is ok. but i really enjoyed moving from town to town at will, kitesurfing in cabarete but sleeping in playa dorada, etc. i can't imagine being stuck in one place, since no one place is that interesting. in particular, i found sosua to be a little skuzzy.

the main risk for getting into accidents has to do with the craziness of some, not all, car and motorcycle drivers. some drivers will go through red lights. two lanes become three lanes as cars squish to get the jump on the green. the motorcycle riders in particular often have suprising disregard for their own safety. once a motorbiker passed me on the left when i was in the fast lane, through a small space between me and the divider. i thought he was crazy. motorbikers will also do quick you-turns into oncoming traffic with little warning. nobody uses their turn signals. there are funny some videos on youtube making fun of dr drivers.

despite the above, i still think that driving is ok and doable. you just have to become a more attentive driver. here in the us, where traffic is orderly and most drive automatics transmissions, we tend to drive inattentively, with one arm on the window or shifter, lazily listening to music.

you can't do that in the dr. i drove with both hands on the wheel at all times. radio off, a /c on, and only during the day. constantly assessing the road and other motorists about 100 yards ahead. if any of you have taken a course for a motorcycle license in the us, you know what i mean. and you absolutely cannot drive while drunk or even buzzed. i suspect that some members of the forum who have gotten into accidents were probably driving at night after a sojourn to sosua, etc. in santiago, driving was dicey. but once outside santiago, i always felt comfortable with no narrowly missed accidents.

in addition, i was never pulled over by a cop or a victim of bribe extraction. i did drive by one gringo who had been pulled over, but he was surrounded by 4 cops, not just one, so i imagine that he was speeding, swerving, or suspected of something serious. otherwise, there were very few cops on the road. and no one ever vandalized my car, even when parked on the streets of sosua at night.

i paid $131 for a four day rental, and that included all taxes and liability insurance. that's $33 a day and well worth it. flying into sti and renting a car was cheaper than flying into pop. just keep in mind that gas is $6 per gallon.

for next time, i may fly into pop anyway, since the drive to sti from cabarete was over two hours and, before a return flight, kind of painful. but renting a car itself always felt like a good thing.

will report on other details of the dr visit soon.

[Manizales911]

Ok, since this topic of 'Driving in the DR' seems to have engendered substantial interest since my original inquiry, I thought that I would follow up with my thoughts having just returned from the DR.Manny I'm glad everything worked out for you driving. Keep in mind that the majority of the discussions concerning driving have not been about the actual driving but about what happens after you get in an accident and someone is injured, that's when the shit hits the fan.

[Peppy007]

Glad you had no issues Manny. One other advantage of having a car is if one day you decide to do the local inner cities, a car makes picking up local girls so much easier. Many of them want to do the deed away from their barrios where no one knows them. Some towns are so small they might know every cab driver LOL. After a certain time usually from 8 to 10pm most forms of public transportation ceases to operate. I'm from Mao a town in the northwest and if I didn't already make arrangements with a cabdriver to call him in the wee hours of the morning, I would literally be stuck in a cabaña til the morning when all cab drivers are up and running again.


Ok, since this topic of 'Driving in the DR' seems to have engendered substantial interest since my original inquiry, I thought that I would follow up with my thoughts having just returned from the DR.

So I picked up my car from STI airport and drove to the North Coast passing through multiple destinations, including Playa Dorada, Sosua, and ultimately, Cabarete. I took some much valued advice from responders to my question, and rented a compact (the second to the smallest car). I drove the highway route, meaning highways 1 and 5, not the mountain route highway 25. The highway route from STI to Sosua takes two hours. The highways were generally in good condition, and have either 1 or 2 lanes in each direction. A few potholes here and there, but nothing that I was wary of.

The advantages of the car were many. All of the towns of Puerto Plata, Sosua, Cabarete, are about 8-10 miles apart. It also seems a little farther than that because you can't really drive that fast. If you plan on planting at only one place, like Sosua, then I suppose that taking a taxi is ok. But I really enjoyed moving from town to town at will, Kitesurfing in Cabarete but sleeping in Playa Dorada, etc. I can't imagine being stuck in one place, since no one place is that interesting...

[Charles Pooter]

Thanks for taking the trouble to report back and describe your driving experience so clearly.

[Charles Pooter]

This is it:

http://www.tour69.com/

Their prices are laughable.Someone must like them. They are the 2, 231, 283rd most popular tour guides in the world:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/tour69.com

[OldKool]

I drove and SD and promised I would never do it again. The roads had pot holes that were almost unavoidable.

North Coast driving is very different, I am looking forward to your report.

QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1456192]Thanks for taking the trouble to report back and describe your driving experience so clearly.[/QUOTE]

[Grub1]

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1456174]Ok, since this topic of 'Driving in the DR' seems to have engendered substantial interest since my original inquiry, I thought that I would follow up with my thoughts having just returned from the DR.

I drove with both hands on the wheel at all times. Radio off, a / see on, and only during the day. Constantly assessing the road and other motorists about 100 yards ahead. And you absolutely cannot drive while drunk or even buzzed.






Seems if you learned right off the bat what it take's to drive in the DR safely.

I am glad you had a good time.

Most people who visit the DR never go much past the hotel they are staying in. They will never really know what the DR is about.

[Manny51]

Ok, I wanted to relay some reflections on a recent trip to the DR.

I went to Field of Dreams, Sosua, and Oxygen. Most of the details of these places have been discussed before, so I'll stick to my personal impressions.

FOD is across the street from the second 'Playa Dorada' sign, not the actual entrance to Playa Dorada, as some have stated. There is nothing directly across the actual entrance. It is smaller than the pictures imply, and smaller than Oxygen (its obvious comparison) , but the overall website depiction is accurate. Its owned by four co-owners, two of which were on hand on a Wednesday (a pleasant surprise). Owner presence is important because it ensures that the companions are on their best behavior.

The key thing about FOD is that there is a bikini show, or some other event, usually in the late afternoon at around 4 pm. If you come anytime between 3 and 6 pm, there are over twenty girls there, a large group. However, at around 7 pm, many of them leave. So if you want the biggest selection of companions, you have to be there at that key period. Otherwise, your selection pool is a lot smaller. At 8 pm, there were only about 6-7 girls. They insist that all the girls are tested monthly, which at first I found hard to believe, given that their overall pool was almost 30 girls, but I didn't get the vibe that they were lying. In terms of quality, I would say one of the girls was a 7, the others were 5's (FYI, I have noticed that my scale is a little stricter than most).

The rooms themselves are pretty good. The only drawback was that the AC was not as strong as I usually like. But they were clean, and the parking lot is enclosed, so your car is safe. The only other drawback is the lack of other places to eat in walking distance. Overall, it would make a pretty good home base if your main area of activity is Playa Dorada and eastward and you have a car, though it's a little far for Sosua and Cabarete.

Oxygen hadn't changed much from my previous visits, even though some time had passed. There were about 8 women there. Two of them were 8's, the others were 5-6. There is still good GFE there, but as a whole the women were a little less guest focused than previously. The room and grounds are still excellent, and the food well-prepared. As a whole, I felt that Oxygen is still a quality establishment, but I couldn't shake the impression that it was slipping. Of course, this is only based on two nights. However, their huge premium seems harder to justify now that venues like FOD are providing an environment similar to O2 (though not as high end) , but at more affordable prices. And by the way, there had been a sale of the Oxygen venue pending, but it fell apart at the last minute. So it is still the original owner.

I did not visit BB. Other forum members had said that FOD was similar to BB, but with slightly better looking women. I didn't have time to eval both, so I picked FOD. Based on what I saw, I wouldn't want to go a step down.

I visited Sosua for one evening, and after about an hour or two, had no interest in further sticking around. I did not see the Passions venue, but did not look too hard for it since others had said it was closed. After visiting FOD, Sosua seemed relatively scummy in comparison. Yes, beers are cheaper there, and there are more choices for dining. But I made my rounds, and I didn't find any of the women even remotely attractive. Not a single one. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw some parents taking their young children around the area. After a while, I had seen enough. After years of reading about it, Sosua had become somewhat of a legend in my mind. If Sosua had a glory period in the past, it is clearly over.

Just my dos pesos.

[OldKool]

What time did you go to Sosua. Did you go to Dlatins or Rumba. Both places have more then enough 7 8 and 9s. In DLatins every night are a couple hundred girls of all types. I think you should have been a bit more patient. When it comes to women I have high standards and Sosua more then satisfys me. BB women are a step above FOD by general concensus. BB supposly has better quantity and quality.

[Mr Gogo]

What time did you go to Sosua. Did you go to Dlatins or Rumba. Both places have more then enough 7 8 and 9s. In DLatins every night are a couple hundred girls of all types. I think you should have been a bit more patient. When it comes to women I have high standards and Sosua more then satisfys me. BB women are a step above FOD by general concensus. BB supposly has better quantity and quality.Old Kool my brother, I hope you aren't calling the tricks on El Conde "High Standards"? But I will agree you do have variety.

[Manny51]

What time did you go to Sosua. Did you go to Dlatins or Rumba. Both places have more then enough 7 8 and 9s. In DLatins every night are a couple hundred girls of all types. I think you should have been a bit more patient. When it comes to women I have high standards and Sosua more then satisfys me. BB women are a step above FOD by general concensus. BB supposly has better quantity and quality.I was in Sosua from about 7-9 pm. Yes, I did see Dlatns and Rumba (the two open pavilion, outdoor bars) and did not think much of them. Yes, there are dozens to hundreds out there. That's what was disappointing, that even with all those girls, not one caught my eye. Plus, if you read the Sosua forums, there are these stories of girls ripping off guys. Other venues have places where the girls are tested and the environment not so seedy. Don't get me wrong, a little seedy is ok if the women are lookers. But they weren't. Maybe I could give it more time, but why bother?

In terms of FOD vs BB, I didn't have time for both. I wanted to check out BB and exchange some money at Jenny's. But when I was first driving from STI to the coast, I was looking constantly for a gated entrance to Costambar, but didn't see one. No signs to Costambar at all. I guess its kind of hidden.

[Ath Trainer]

I was in Sosua from about 7-9 pm. Yes, I did see Dlatns and Rumba (the two open pavilion, outdoor bars) and did not think much of them. Yes, there are dozens to hundreds out there. That's what was disappointing, that even with all those girls, not one caught my eye. Plus, if you read the Sosua forums, there are these stories of girls ripping off guys. Other venues have places where the girls are tested and the environment not so seedy. Don't get me wrong, a little seedy is ok if the women are lookers. But they weren't. Maybe I could give it more time, but why bother?

In terms of FOD vs BB, I didn't have time for both. I wanted to check out BB and exchange some money at Jenny's. But when I was first driving from STI to the coast, I was looking constantly for a gated entrance to Costambar, but didn't see one. No signs to Costambar at all. I guess its kind of hidden.9 at rumba and dlatins is junk. The hotties are few and far between at that point. Try again, later, new ones were still arriving at 2.

[ConquerorVal]

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw some parents taking their young children around the area.I have seen it in Thailand and Amsterdam. I went with my little daughter when she was four to walk around the adult entertainment area in Phuket. Lots of lights and sounds. I am not sure what is it that bothers you about it. By seeing it kids are not going to automatically become mongers or putas. They may actually find it quite boring.

[Manny51]

I have seen it in Thailand and Amsterdam. I went with my little daughter when she was four to walk around the adult entertainment area in Phuket. Lots of lights and sounds. I am not sure what is it that bothers you about it. By seeing it kids are not going to automatically become mongers or putas. They may actually find it quite boring.Uh. Yeah. Ok.

[Rwaters]

Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality.

Regarding Blackbeards. Should I book their pickup taxi service when I arrive at airport? Upon arrival, should I change money at Blackbeards or at the places mentioned in Costamar. It appears that credit cards get a 20% surcharge around the island. Is this prevalent or only at Blackbeards. Are ATM machines around?

I am not afraid to rent a car. However, as a first timer and reading about the potential nightmare scenario, I believe I will taxi around.

Appreciate the help. If anybody will be around during that time, please let me know.

H

[Manny51]

Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality.

Regarding Blackbeards. Should I book their pickup taxi service when I arrive at airport? Upon arrival, should I change money at Blackbeards or at the places mentioned in Costamar. It appears that credit cards get a 20% surcharge around the island. Is this prevalent or only at Blackbeards. Are ATM machines around?

I am not afraid to rent a car. However, as a first timer and reading about the potential nightmare scenario, I believe I will taxi around.

Appreciate the help. If anybody will be around during that time, please let me know.

HIf you are going to be there for 7 days, then you should definitely rent a car. Weekly rates give you the best overall value. And 7 days is a long time in the DR. The different cities / destinations are pretty far apart. If you think that its just a short hop from BB to Sosua, you are mistaken. On my recent trip, I would have definitely felt stranded and unhappy without a car. A car will also help you fill the daytime. There is so much awesome outdoor stuff to do the DR. I find it odd that most hobbyists go to the DR and never leave Sosua or the resort areas. Try the Damajuaga Falls!

I did not visit Blackbeards, but I can give FOD a pretty good recommendation, at least relative to Sosua. With places like FOD, BB, and Oxygen giving a certain degree of owner QC, as well as testing, its hard to recommend Sosua. If you are there for 7 days, might as well try a night in Sosua, but I am pretty sure you won't like it. I didn't think the girls there were that good looking, and even if I went at a bad time, read the forums. They always talk about girls trying to steal stuff, trying walk away from deals. Why bother? The trick to FOD is that you have to be there at the right time of day, which is 3-7 pm and weekends. All the girls aren't there all the time.

Oxygen has very good GFE, but is very expensive. If you can afford it, its worth it. You can go there now for $500 / night all inclusive. Expensive, but the cheapest its ever been. But if its a stretch for you, you won't' be able to get over how much you are spending, and therefore won't enjoy yourself. Its better than the other places, but only marginally so.

In terms of food, I didn't really like the food anywhere in the DR. Most of it are bad versions of foreign (including American) food. In any country you visit, the local food will always be the best. The carribean isn't somewhere you go for the cuisine. Nothing is fresh except some (not even all) the seafood.

[OldKool]

Sosua is awesome IMHO. Most nights there are over 200 women most very attractive. I have been to BB and with out a doubt in Sosua the selection of women Kills all other places. Pussy is pussy. In Sosua a guy can fuck pretty 19 year olds for 75 dollars tln. The thought of paying 500 a day to me is a joke. Sosua is custom made for big boy mongers. IMHO any body who can not find a winner with over 200 DR chicas is a weak MF IMHO. Read the on the ground report of Sosua. Most guys are loving it. Only bad report I have seen was a guy who went to DLatins at 9 pm and was surprised it was not packed yet. Oxygen has attractive women but DLatin will have 30 plus babe every night as hot and hotter for 40 bucks for ST.


If you are going to be there for 7 days, then you should definitely rent a car. Weekly rates give you the best overall value. And 7 days is a long time in the DR. The different cities / destinations are pretty far apart. If you think that its just a short hop from BB to Sosua, you are mistaken. On my recent trip, I would have definitely felt stranded and unhappy without a car. A car will also help you fill the daytime. There is so much awesome outdoor stuff to do the DR. I find it odd that most hobbyists go to the DR and never leave Sosua or the resort areas. Try the Damajuaga Falls!

I did not visit Blackbeards, but I can give FOD a pretty good recommendation, at least relative to Sosua. With places like FOD, BB, and Oxygen giving a certain degree of owner QC, as well as testing, its hard to recommend Sosua. If you are there for 7 days, might as well try a night in Sosua, but I am pretty sure you won't like it. I didn't think the girls there were that good looking, and even if I went at a bad time, read the forums. They always talk about girls trying to steal stuff, trying walk away from deals. Why bother? The trick to FOD is that you have to be there at the right time of day, which is 3-7 pm and weekends. All the girls aren't there all the time.

Oxygen has very good GFE, but is very expensive. If you can afford it, its worth it. You can go there now for $500 / night all inclusive. Expensive, but the cheapest its ever been. But if its a stretch for you, you won't' be able to get over how much you are spending, and therefore won't enjoy yourself. Its better than the other places, but only marginally so.

In terms of food, I didn't really like the food anywhere in the DR. Most of it are bad versions of foreign (including American) food. In any country you visit, the local food will always be the best. The carribean isn't somewhere you go for the cuisine. Nothing is fresh except some (not even all) the seafood.

[Manny51]

Sosua is awesome IMHO. Most nights there are over 200 women most very attractive. I have been to BB and with out a doubt in Sosua the selection of women Kills all other places. Pussy is pussy. In Sosua a guy can fuck pretty 19 year olds for 75 dollars tln. The thought of paying 500 a day to me is a joke. Sosua is custom made for big boy mongers. IMHO any body who can not find a winner with over 200 DR chicas is a weak MF IMHO. Read the on the ground report of Sosua. Most guys are loving it. Only bad report I have seen was a guy who went to DLatins at 9 pm and was surprised it was not packed yet. Oxygen has attractive women but DLatin will have 30 plus babe every night as hot and hotter for 40 bucks for ST.Don't just take my word for it, Read the forums. Veteran poster after poster all talk about how Sosua is a shadow of its former self. Now, I didn't see it in its glory days, but it definitely gives off that vibe.

As for Old Kool, Mr."big boy monger" as opposed to other "weak MF." You're such a man. Way to represent yo.

[Chris Long]

Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality...I will be there around the same time you are there, will be there a few days before you arrive and leave a couple days before you do and plan on spending a couple days in BB on this trip. If you want to meet up when you arrive let me know. Personally I wouldn't rent a car but that's just me, I would arrange for BB to pick you up cost is $45 one way, you pay when you check in you don't pay the driver. Oldkool is absolutely right about Sosua everything he says is true and personally I disagree with Manny51 opinion on Sosua, yes it certainly is not what it was when I first started going but just as oldkool says there are at least 200 chicas many of which are very very hot available along the strip at night for less than $40 for short time. What the future holds for Sosua is uncertain, recent events give one cause for concern, but for now Sosua is still the hottest spot in the American hemisphere.

When it comes to exchanging money at BB you want to exchange it a Yenneys, it's a convenient store right after you enter the gated community and an easy walk from BB. You will get your best rates there and you can ask your driver to stop before he takes to BB.

My advice would be to spend your weekdays at BB and your weekends in Sosua.

Chris

[SenorSauceBoy]

Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality...RWaters, I'll be around there those 3 days you are at BB. I'll be in DR (POP & Sosua) for about 1 month. The name is Senor Aqua Man. Safe travels.

[Ath Trainer]

Don't just take my word for it, Read the forums. Veteran poster after poster all talk about how Sosua is a shadow of its former self. Now, I didn't see it in its glory days, but it definitely gives off that vibe.

As for Old Kool, Mr."big boy monger" as opposed to other "weak MF." You're such a man. Way to represent yo.don't worry about what sosua was. Worry about what it is. Plenty to choose from.

[Bunda Man]

Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.

For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.

The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.

I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality.

Regarding Blackbeards. Should I book their pickup taxi service when I arrive at airport? Upon arrival, should I change money at Blackbeards or at the places mentioned in Costamar. It appears that credit cards get a 20% surcharge around the island. Is this prevalent or only at Blackbeards. Are ATM machines around?

I am not afraid to rent a car. However, as a first timer and reading about the potential nightmare scenario, I believe I will taxi around.

Appreciate the help. If anybody will be around during that time, please let me know.

HMy buddy and I will be in DR 8/25-9/1. We are also staying at BBs. Would be great to meet up with everyone who will be in Town. If you go through BBs for the taxi pickup from the airport, arrange it prior via e-mail or call them. You can exchange money in a pinch at BBs, but as Chris said Jenny's up the road is best. Try to bring at least enough cash for a few days. My last trip to Puerto Plata (PP) was 2008, but unless things have changed, the nearest ATMs (at the Texaco station and Banco Popular in PP) are not within a convenient walking distance. Looking forward to meeting everyone. Bunda.

[Manizales911]

Don't just take my word for it, Read the forums. Veteran poster after poster all talk about how Sosua is a shadow of its former self. Now, I didn't see it in its glory days, but it definitely gives off that vibe.

As for Old Kool, Mr."big boy monger" as opposed to other "weak MF." You're such a man. Way to represent yo.Manny, the reason Sosua gave off the "vibe" that it did was strictly because of the time of day that you went. Yes, it is true that Sosua was better years ago but that holds true for every mongering destination in the world. If you had rolled into Sosua after 11 pm it would have been a whole different story. Try going to the clubs in Medellin or Cartagena at 7 p. M, you'll be the only motherf*ker there.