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Firstly, I want to thank everybody for their excellent advise. Many different perspectives.
First, I am leaning against renting a car. I would like the freedom but concerned that the potential hassle or disaster far outweighs the benefit. Typically, I am very adventurous. I have plenty of experience behind the wheel in foreign countries. However, as I have not yet been to DR it may make sense for me to get a better grasp before getting behind a wheel.
Also, after 3 nights at BBs, I will probably want to get off campus. Once in Sosua, I will have no need for wheels.
So I am currently thinking of staying at New Garden after BB's. Not sure how or if I should fit FOD into the week.
Again, I appreciate all advice given from experience. Lots to think about. I am fortunate to have this intel before landing.
I will reach out to Bunda Man and Senor Aqua Man via PM before my departure.
H
Manny, the reason Sosua gave off the "vibe" that it did was strictly because of the time of day that you went. Yes, it is true that Sosua was better years ago but that holds true for every mongering destination in the world. If you had rolled into Sosua after 11 pm it would have been a whole different story. Try going to the clubs in Medellin or Cartagena at 7 p. M, you'll be the only motherf*ker there.So you are saying that Sosua at 9 pm is the equivalent of 7 pm in South America? Seriously? If thats the case, you may want to think twice about being the hero defending the reputation of Sosua. If its like Mr. Kool describes, I doubt that roaming around a place like Sosua at 2 am on a weeknight is something to be proud of.
Still, you guys are like the Knights of the Round Table, ready to snap the head off of anything who dares to speak ill of Sosua. That's so cool.
Most people who have been to Sosua would say your representation was not an accurate dipiction of Sosua.
So you are saying that Sosua at 9 pm is the equivalent of 7 pm in South America? Seriously? If thats the case, you may want to think twice about being the hero defending the reputation of Sosua. If its like Mr. Kool describes, I doubt that roaming around a place like Sosua at 2 am on a weeknight is something to be proud of.
Still, you guys are like the Knights of the Round Table, ready to snap the head off of anything who dares to speak ill of Sosua. That's so cool.
Manny, the reason Sosua gave off the "vibe" that it did was strictly because of the time of day that you went. Yes, it is true that Sosua was better years ago but that holds true for every mongering destination in the world. If you had rolled into Sosua after 11 pm it would have been a whole different story. Try going to the clubs in Medellin or Cartagena at 7 p. M, you'll be the only motherf*ker there.I don't know. Sosua is slow right now and there are not all that many single men short-term visitors staying in town, especially during weekdays. The number of girls available in the bar will tend to depend on the number of men who are spending. If you go to the parada de taxis in Puerto Plata late at night, you will sometimes see girls all dressed up and headed for Sosua. Perhaps they have day jobs, and then go home, take care of child (ren) , get a few hours kip when sundown cools the air a little and then get up and head to Sosua later on looking for an all-night gig to bring in some extra cash, then return home to get the kid (s) ready for school.
Whether those girls from Puerto Plata, Montellano, Maranatha-Bellavista, Los Cangrejos, La Union, Cabarete, etc. Will bother to make the late night trip depends somewhat on whether they think they will score late at night, but as far as the theory that the best girls don't arrive in Sosua until after 11:00 p. M, I don't know how valid it is for most of the time.
You are also going to get a certain number of girls showing up late who have been working in other evening jobs in Sosua, waitressing, cooking, bartending, and so on, and now hoping to find a quiclk gig for the night to make some extra cash.
In any case, regardless of the time of the night if you see two or three girls whom you would like to take, but have to narrow it down to one, then things are great and you are spoiled for choice, but if you don't find any who really hit the spot, then it is all lousy. If you are drinking alcohol, the quality of the girls may appear to improve as time goes on and inhibitions are lowered.
SenorSauceBoy
08-17-13, 00:48
Firstly, I want to thank everybody for their excellent advise. Many different perspectives.
First, I am leaning against renting a car. I would like the freedom but concerned that the potential hassle or disaster far outweighs the benefit. Typically, I am very adventurous. I have plenty of experience behind the wheel in foreign countries. However, as I have not yet been to DR it may make sense for me to get a better grasp before getting behind a wheel.
Also, after 3 nights at BBs, I will probably want to get off campus. Once in Sosua, I will have no need for wheels.
So I am currently thinking of staying at New Garden after BB's. Not sure how or if I should fit FOD into the week.
Again, I appreciate all advice given from experience. Lots to think about. I am fortunate to have this intel before landing.
I will reach out to Bunda Man and Senor Aqua Man via PM before my departure.
HRWaters, I know this will be your first trip to DR. Hopefully not your last. One thing you should do is to check the Calendars of the Resorts like BB and FOD. It's a shame you are arriving on Sunday Aug 25th. 1 day of missing the well known BB Bikini Contest on Sat. Aug. 24th. And the night before that, Friday Aug. 23rd, the Baby Doll Night. (something not to be missed). We can catch the FOD Bikini Contest on Wed Aug 28th. (Every Wed at 4 PM). Next time you head to DR. Plan your vacation around the venues you are most interested in and wouldn't want to miss. As far as money exchange at Yennys market, the only downside is if you are exchanging a big sum of money and you have to wait for the guy, in the back, to return, if he is not there. What I do is have my taxi pick up take me to a local money exchange place on route to BB. Well any questions don't hesitate. To hit me up. Can't wait for this trip. Senor Aqua Man
RWaters, I know this will be your first trip to DR. Hopefully not your last. One thing you should do is to check the Calendars of the Resorts like BB and FOD. It's a shame you are arriving on Sunday Aug 25th. 1 day of missing the well known BB Bikini Contest on Sat. Aug. 24th.
The contest starts at 4 pm so you should be checked in and showered before the show starts. Always fun.
Radpoker
SenorSauceBoy
08-17-13, 20:46
Greetings. I have just booked my air for my first trip to DR. Going for 7 nights August 25-September 1st. Based on my readings on this forum, I have done the following. Bought a flight into POP Puerto Plata. Booked my first 3 nights at Blackbeards.
For a newbie, Blackbeards is suggested as best place to get started. I am also considering a few nights at Field of Dreams and Sosua.
The reports on Field of Dreams are mixed. I have read mixed reviews on chicas, bad food and the fact FOD is out of the way. So not sure. Would anybody recommend Oxygen. Not sure what Oxygen's nightly non all inclusive rate is.
I have a few questions. If I stay in Sosua, is New Garden the best choice of hotel. I don't care if I spend a little more. I want safety, convenience and good amenities. Since Passions is closed, what are the next best options on Sosua? Not looking for the bargains. I want the best quality.
Regarding Blackbeards. Should I book their pickup taxi service when I arrive at airport? Upon arrival, should I change money at Blackbeards or at the places mentioned in Costamar. It appears that credit cards get a 20% surcharge around the island. Is this prevalent or only at Blackbeards. Are ATM machines around?
I am not afraid to rent a car. However, as a first timer and reading about the potential nightmare scenario, I believe I will taxi around.
Appreciate the help. If anybody will be around during that time, please let me know.
HRadpoker. As mentioned above, RWaters will arrive at BB on Sunday 8/25/13. I have been going to DR since 2007. I know the deal. I will already be in DR, before RWaters arrives. I will be at the next (2) two BB Bikini Contests on Sat. 8/24/13 & 9/7/13. Also I will be at the next (4) four Bikini Contests at FOD on Wed. 8/21/13, 8/28/13, 9/4/13 & 9/11/13.
See ya there.
Peace,
Senor Aqua Man
Radpoker. As mentioned above, RWaters will arrive at BB on Sunday 8/25/13. I have been going to DR since 2007. I know the deal. I will already be in DR, before RWaters arrives. I will be at the next (2) two BB Bikini Contests on Sat. 8/24/13 & 9/7/13. Also I will be at the next (4) four Bikini Contests at FOD on Wed. 8/21/13, 8/28/13, 9/4/13 & 9/11/13.
See ya there.
Peace,
Senor Aqua ManSorry, read the date wrong. Thank you.
Radpoker
Per their recent newsletter BB's has struck a deal with the local taxi mafia for rides up and back to STI with constant availability. At first it dosen't seem like much of a deal- 100US one way solo which is a bit more than twice as much as the cost of a ride to POP. But many guys including me have been getting rates coming in and out of STI which are 200US less than POP. So if you use STI you come out about 100 ahead of the game. Of course you can also split the cost if you come with others. The only problem is that the ride to STI often takes twice as much time as the ride to POP although it can be shorter. But it sounds like it could be worth it.
Yesterday morning I read Ponderosa's review from March in which he compared Black Beard's to Field of dreams. It has been five years since I'the been to Blackbeard's but I agreed with most everything he said. (I like the murals at FoD but I hate the loud music.) I didn't understand his dismissal of Crystals as too hard to take a girls out from. I also agreed that midnight was too early for Blackbeard's to close down. (FoD runs about of steam in a more natural way. Supposedly they are open 24/7.)
I had come across Cocoa Night Club on the internet a few weeks before and I had driven past it just the day before. I had been driving past this place called The Secret, a Night Club and wondering if it was. (My girlfriend said it was just a bar.) And I had just seen a flash of a spot on the North side of Why 5 between Av Colon and the hill as we zipped through town. It seemed to me there was more action in Puerto Plata than just BB, Crystals and FoD and that it continued after midnight. So I dropped the girlfriend off at her place and went to work. I'm a reviewer for Sexcation-Review.
I drove out to Blackbeard's to try out the restaurant that Ponderosa said was much improved. I made it to Costambar easily enough but the only sign for Blackbeard's is across the road from the place. I finally hired a taxi driver to lead me to it and gave him 50 pesos. Blackbeard's looked great, there were lots of girls hanging out, it was around 8:30 pm, and the food was good. I didn't introduce myself to the Momason and only one girl came up to me.
Then I drove back to Puerto Plata. Secrets couldn't ask for a better location one block from the Malecon on the West side of town. You turn up Av colon and there it is on the South East corner. It's a small place and opened in June 2013. Inside it looked like a small strip club with a stripper pole, a roped off VIP area, a clear floor and a bar. Three girls were 'working' at the time. They open at 6pm. It was after 9pm and I was the only customer. The Bartender speaks fair English and offered to change the music to anything current I wanted. Of course I couldn't think of anything current but Adele and I didn't want that.
None of the girls spoke more than a few words of English and after a halfhearted attempt at interesting me one went back outside. There's a dressing room for the girls (where a couple more were in the midts on undressing) and a VIP room with a bed for rent. The Bartender said it was cheaper to rent the VIP room for the night than to take a girl out. The best part was the price for the drinks was about half of everywhere else.
Cocoa Night Club is about two blocks up the street on the West side of Av Colon. They have a big website, it might be bigger than the actual place. You enter what looked to me like a delivery entrance. There's a place for chicken, a bar facing the loading bay and stairs to the real club. The real club is large, with another bar, a stage, a pool table, two TVs playing the golf channel and a VIP area with another pool table and private bar. What I couldn't see were their VIP rooms for rent.
I only saw two working girls and they didn't work very hard. The Momason on the other hand worked very hard to make sure I was happy. Her English is passable, she sat down and talked with me. She told me there were two other girls working at the moment for a total of four and that another one would be coming on closer to midnight. But that was it. Five available girls for a place that could seat thirty easily and there was to be live music around 10pm. Apparently I was there during the slow period. They open at noon and go until 2 am.
I drove to Estaban's on Circunvalacion, east from Av Colon. This place looks like a dive. I parked on the South side of Hwy 5 so I had to run across the divided hwy to get to them. At around 9:30 I was the only customer. There was a bartender, a Momason and one working girl. The Bartender and the Momason worked much harder to please me than she did.
These three places are open until 2 am on the weekends and some week days. But I felt they expected me to enter with a raging hunger because they made very little attempt to inspire me. I wondered if I was just too early, I hit all three between 9pm and 10pm on as Saturday night. But there were much busier bars close to each of these places, playing the same music, serving the same drinks but with people overflowing onto the sidewalk. Maybe it was just too early for people in the market for sex.
So I drove over to Crystal's. I hadn't planned to go that night but it's my job and I take pride in being thorough. I arrived at Crystal's just before 10pm and the moment I got inside between 10 and 20 girls swarmed around me. They pawed me and told me to look here, look here. They followed me to the bar. I only lost half of them when I took a lounge. I finally settled on one to make the others go away.
She gave me the best lap dance I have ever had where the clothes stayed on. I gave her 1,000 pesos for her efforts and drove back to Sosua where things don't slow down until well after midnight.
Ponderosa was right, BB, Crystal's, and FoD are the best places to go, most selection, most eager girls. They make you feel like a king. But if you don't want to leave PP after midnight and you're still hungry there are four places to go right in PP. That stay open past midnight.
In the interest of thoroughness I will have to go back around midnight and I will let you know what I find.
PepperSpray22
08-19-13, 13:25
In heading to POP this week from an incredible week in Santo Domingo. Will post about that later. I m looking for a reasonably priced chica friendly hotel ($45-70). I waded through quite a few pages in the POP thread but didn't find any. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
In heading to POP this week from an incredible week in Santo Domingo. Will post about that later. I m looking for a reasonably priced chica friendly hotel ($45-70). I waded through quite a few pages in the POP thread but didn't find any. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Puerto Plata is not overblessed with hotels, but Aparta-Hotel Lomar is probably the best for you. It is on the Malecon with ocean views and breezes, across the road from a beach, central to everything, and not far from La Sirena supermarket. Other possibility might be Portofino. There are some other hotels on the main highway or inland, like Sunshine Motel or Mountainview Hotel, but probably not as good as Lomar.
Puerto Plata is not overblessed with hotels, but Aparta-Hotel Lomar is probably the best for you. It is on the Malecon with ocean views and breezes, across the road from a beach, central to everything, and not far from La Sirena supermarket. Other possibility might be Portofino. There are some other hotels on the main highway or inland, like Sunshine Motel or Mountainview Hotel, but probably not as good as Lomar.I am assuming you have already ruled out Field of Dreams and Blackbeard's as they are discussed ad nauseam in the Puerto Plata threads.
RWaters, I know this will be your first trip to DR. Hopefully not your last. One thing you should do is to check the Calendars of the Resorts like BB and FOD. It's a shame you are arriving on Sunday Aug 25th. 1 day of missing the well known BB Bikini Contest on Sat. Aug. 24th. And the night before that, Friday Aug. 23rd, the Baby Doll Night. (something not to be missed). We can catch the FOD Bikini Contest on Wed Aug 28th. (Every Wed at 4 PM). Next time you head to DR. Plan your vacation around the venues you are most interested in and wouldn't want to miss. As far as money exchange at Yennys market, the only downside is if you are exchanging a big sum of money and you have to wait for the guy, in the back, to return, if he is not there. What I do is have my taxi pick up take me to a local money exchange place on route to BB. Well any questions don't hesitate. To hit me up. Can't wait for this trip. Senor Aqua ManWhat's up going the the DR for the first time this Saturday arrive around 1pm where is this bikini contest think it would be a great introduction the DR.
What's up going the the DR for the first time this Saturday arrive around 1pm where is this bikini contest think it would be a great introduction the DR.It's at Blackbeards in Costombar. I'm arriving on Sunday afternoon, so unfortunately, I will miss it, since my buddy has to work Saturday night. I experienced the contests a few years ago and they are extremely entertaining. The only negative, from my perspective, is that they are prolonged, to sell more drinks, I presume.
I'm here right now having arrived at 1500 yesterday. Place is almost full save for one room but the current vibe is quiet. Not alot of guys hanging around or chicas for that matter but that will change by 1500 for the contest. Last night was rocking and my wingman and I each had 3 nuts with 4 kills. I will do my usual trip report with pussy pics that I'm known for upon return in a few days. Current exchange rate at Jenny's market is 42. 3 pesos Road to the USD.
It's at Blackbeards in Costombar. I'm arriving on Sunday afternoon, so unfortunately, I will miss it, since my buddy has to work Saturday night. I experienced the contests a few years ago and they are extremely entertaining. The only negative, from my perspective, is that they are prolonged, to sell more drinks, I presume.
Marc Anthony
08-24-13, 23:53
In heading to POP this week from an incredible week in Santo Domingo. Will post about that later. I m looking for a reasonably priced chica friendly hotel ($45-70). I waded through quite a few pages in the POP thread but didn't find any. Any help would be greatly appreciated.If you've got a car or ride the sensacion cabanas west of town on the north coast highway near the entrance to costambar have deals for staying overnight rather than short time. A couple years ago it was about 1100 pesos for a fancy room with ac and amenities and obviously very guest friendly.
Just got back home and downloaded my pics. Stay tuned. Here's a little teaser from my last trip to BB's over the last days. I'm known as the "Guardfather" on IFTC hence the taxi sign. Don't know who "Scott" is but he wasn't on my ride. The Bikini Contest was last Saturday.
I just wasted an hour typing a 7 paragraph trip report that didn't make it through. Had the same problem with that "other" board. Fuck it. Here's my pics from my last trip to BB's last week. WTF!
I just wasted an hour typing a 7 paragraph trip report that didn't make it through. Had the same problem with that "other" board. Fuck it. Here's my pics from my last trip to BB's last week. WTF!Might hafta put BB back on the list! Thanks for sharing!
I just wasted an hour typing a 7 paragraph trip report that didn't make it through. Had the same problem with that "other" board. Fuck it. Here's my pics from my last trip to BB's last week. WTF!I don't mean this in a mean way, but every time I see these beaver photo galleries, it makes me laugh. Its just so silly, its hilarious!
So do you take these photos before the deed or after? Do you ask their permission, and if so, how exactly do you phrase it? Do you so play the alpha male: "Yo woman, I want to take a pic of your pussy!". Or do you butter them up first,"Wow, you have the most beautiful vagina. Can I take a picture so that I can remember it? Please?"
And how can we know for sure that these aren't recycled pictures? We should require dated newspapers in the photo!
Basic Intel:
Dates: 8/23-8/26 2013.
Exchange Rate at Jenny's Market: 42. 3 pesos DR=1 USD. 1000 pesos Road=$23. 64 so that 100 pesos=$2. 64. BB's short time at 1, 600 pesos=$37. 83. Long time (all night) at 3, 000 pesos=$70. 92. At their bar a Presidente beer cost 132 pesos=$3. 12 and the 'Grande' bottle cost 183 pesos=$4. 33. I saved a grand total of $4. 83 paying my room / taxi bill upon arrival in pesos instead of USD. A 10% tip is included on all bar / meal tabs so don't get carried away, but a few clinkers on the table goes a long way. We took advantage of BB's 20% July / August room discount offer on this trip and I split the Penthouse Suite with my wing. The weather was in the high 80's to low 90's with no detectable rain for the duration.
Met my wingman at his house right after work, sleepless, shit packed and ready to fly. Wingman is a good friend and former co-worker, now a rookie cop in a large, crime ridden city near you. He's young, Latino, fluent Spanish speaker with plenty of game back in his hood. Rookienoob really doesn't need to be on this trip but he's always DTF (down to fuck). His blood already boiling with bodega liberated phony dick dope, that they just throw at him, when he's on patrol hassling the store owners for whatever reason. Our flights are on time and we hit POP and pay the usual $10 tourist visa fee. Step out into the Africa heat for BB's driver waiting with my sign. Some guy named, 'Scott' was also on the sign but he wasn't there. I speak good Spanish for a Gringo and tell my driver to stay on the main highway towards BB's, no detours, and we don't need to go to his friends cambio for dinero exchange for his commission. Jenny's Market in Costambar. 10 minutes walk from BB's offers the best rate in the area, plus you'll save time. Counting party ensues in the backroom and we leave with pockets stuffed with their monopoly money plus a few toilet items we forgot. It's a good store for shit like that. Rookienoob can't wait. His job and his dick gives cause for his pending divorce from his sexless marriage. Naturally.
At BB's another counting party ensues with Tim, the ever loyal and hard working day manager. This is my 8th trip I think, lost count. Your taxi bill is paid here, not to the driver direct, but a 200 peso tip is warranted. The place feels quiet and looks empty but in fact, they are about 80% full. The chicas are eye fucking us now. Rookienoob thinks he needs a nap. NEGATIVE! Buck up officer. Unpacking frenzy ensues in our 2 BR suite and a cool shower is needed as our taxi lacked AC. Naturally.
We hit the bar before the coveted shift change. The first Presidente perfectly served, covered with rime ice and a napkin to protect the green glass from our grubby, warm hands. We each take down our first kill of the trip. The salt water pool is next for me. We observe as 2nd shift arrives in street clothes on the backs of motoconchos, hair investment covered in those ugly hats protecting it from the sun, pollution, and road dust. They emerge from their little locker room completely transformed into the awesome harlots we all love and adore. But first, its time for dinner. BB's chow rarely disappoints. Now its time for drinking, smoking their decent cigars, (100-125 pesos) and flirting. Rookienoob is already quite popular with the talent there, his hair gel agogo. It still hasn't quite dawned on him yet that they're working girls. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Time for another kill and some more boozing. I meet the distinguished, yet quietly soft-spoken 'Chris Long' of IFTC and ISG fame. His trip reports from all over the world are awesome. I shake his hand and bow, 'I'm not worthy sir. ' OPSEC forbids personal data so let's just say that Chris has the perfect job that allows for, 'cover for status' for those familiar with tradecraft lingo. He only started our hobby 2 years ago and, like a first time crystal meth user, became instantly addicted to the habit of sport fucking. Naturally.
Time for sleep now? No! I discover Rookienoob getting a double BBBJ in the Jacuzzi. He can't nut owing to the common side effect of retarded ejaculation from his illegal dick dope overdose. He doesn't care. His chicas take this as a challenge to their women hood. They work the dick for well over an hour. Finally, I join him with two more of my own, one an old fave along with her new friend, new to the biz, who takes instruction well. The friend throated a better dick. I finally had to take them up to the room to finish the takedown. Day one completed: 3 nuts / 4 kills (unless blowjobs don't count.) Reasonable minds can disagree, right, Mr. President? Naturally.
Sleepless Mr. 'I need a nap' takes up an offer from the night Mamasan to join her and some friends for a night of partying. It's Friday night and she's off the clock. Hmmmm. I advise against. Rookienoob shows up to the crib at 0600 next morning with Mama in tow. He had a great time visiting her place, riding all night on the back of her motoconcho, drunk, getting shown off to all her local friends. He somehow manages to stick it in before passing the fuck out. $3, 000 pesos and hurt feelings later he finds out the hard way that there is no such thing as off the clock with these chicas. No. Naturally.
Saturday is Bikini Contest. Rookienoob is one of the three Judges. I pound out another kill after a late breakfast. Then another kill at night after dinner. We hit the beach during the day just to say we saw the ocean and stop by the Catamaran beach bar / rest two hours early for their famous 3-1 rum and coke 'power hour' special. So we grab a rare German beer at Pascal's beach on the walk back to BB's. Rookienoob takes another kill. We relax, smoke, booze it up, and chat with Chris Long about his many trips to almost every major kill zone known to mankind. He's a freak. We leave the next day so 4 of us make plans to share a taxi to POP. Time for sleep? No! Rookienoob is leaving with a group of DTF brothers at 0100 for a 'make it rain' trip to So-sewer. I advise against. He shows back up to the crib at 0700 with some Sosua clinger in tow. He passes the fuck out, snoring so loud I vacate the penthouse suite at 0800 for an early breakfast and some of BB's free colon blow coffee. The coffee does the trick. Naturally!
Final plans involve a hoped for deep throat, relaxing BBBJTCCIM in the Jacuzzi. I repeat with the old fave because she's a nice person and I admire her mind. Packing frenzy ensues. Meanwhile, Rookienoob manages to offend the honor of his clinger by offering all he has left. 2,300 pesos. She refuses the money and goes to find her Sosua friends so she can sit and cry in a plastic lawn chair. Her value is deflating. Rookienoob gives the day Mamasan only 1, 600 pesos now. Hey, he has to eat, right? We hit our shared taxi van and pop smoke for the airport. We make it on time and pass through the security layers in decent time. Time to board. No, wait, time to un-ass the aircraft owing to an 'indicator light. ' Fuck! Two hours later we take off. The four of us make the mile long walk to customs and miraculously re-enter the security perimeter for our various connections. No evil stares and leading questions from the passenger profiling TSA motherfuckers. Not this time. Unnaturally.
I don't mean this in a mean way, but every time I see these beaver photo galleries, it makes me laugh. Its just so silly, its hilarious!
So do you take these photos before the deed or after? Do you ask their permission, and if so, how exactly do you phrase it? Do you so play the alpha male: "Yo woman, I want to take a pic of your pussy!". Or do you butter them up first,"Wow, you have the most beautiful vagina. Can I take a picture so that I can remember it? Please?"
And how can we know for sure that these aren't recycled pictures? We should require dated newspapers in the photo!This is what I do Manny. ALL pics are post takedown. I favor the blown out look but some chica's boxes return to normal looking anyway. I speak very good Spanish. I always tell them they have a really pretty box whether I mean it or not. Doesn't matter. I assure them that I won't take a face pic and I let them look at the pic of their box. If they don't like it I'll delete it and take another one they approve of. Lastly, I keep a promise to myself to NEVER mention their names. I've never done that. I'm glad you appreciate my sick humor. I need to get some help. Planning my next trip is the cure.
Camaro1257
09-01-13, 17:42
I just spent 2 days at Blackbeards and 2 days at Field of Dreams and I would like to share the below listed comments. Hopefully they will help someone going forward.
Locations:
Blackbeard's is in the Costmbar area outside Puerto Plata. It is a laid back gated community with a beach and very comfortable.
Field of Dreams is on Calle Principal across the street from Playa Dorado in between Puerto Plata and Sosua.
Web Presence:
Blackbeard's has had the same web-site for years the design is quite antiquated but it is easy to navigate and everything is easy to find. All responses to inquiries were responded to in a timely manner.
Field of Dreams has a very modern web site that is very user friendly and informative. The responses were delayed and not timely.
Room quality:
Blackbeard's basic room was small but quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well and I had view of the grounds from the balcony. The WI-FI worked intermittently in the room and when it didn't I used the WI-FI outside the room on the balcony. The furniture was decent and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV but I am not much of a TV person on vacation.
Field of Dreams basic room was a decent size and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well and I had a view of the pool from my room. The WI-FI worked intermittently in and outside the room. The furniture was modern and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV with the porn channel on when I walked in the room. What kind of guy do they think I am?
Payment:
Blackbeard's basic room was $45. 00 per night plus $8. 00 tax for a total of $106. 00 for 2 nights.
Field of Dreams basic room was $50. 00 per night a total of $100. 00 for 2 nights.
Mini Bar fridge:
Blackbeard's. Blackbeard's discourages bringing food and drinks from outside but of course it can be done. The mini-bar had drinks and chips but no candy like last time. I had to suck it up when I got that chocolate craving in the middle of the night. The mini-bar had the basics: chips 60DP, water 40DP, beer 120DP Pepsi &7Up 60DP and rum 375DP. 16%TAX AND 10% service charge.
Field of Dreams had no refrigerator or mini-bar and when I woke up in the middle of the night with the munchies I was hurtin.
Safes:
Blackbeard's there was a key safe in the wall of the main closet.
Field of Dreams there was a key / combination safe in the wall of the main closet. Management wanted a $50. 00 deposit for the key that would be returned upon departure. I passed as I have a combination lock on my luggage.
Assistance with luggage:
Blackbeard's total self serve.
Field of Dreams total self serve.
Staff service & Housekeeping:
Blackbeard's staff was EXCELLENT for the most part everybody was upbeat with greetings and good customer service.
Field of Dreams staff was good it started off slow in the absence of management but when the managers showed up for the most part everybody was upbeat with greetings and good customer service.
Bar:
Blackbeard's has 2 bars one downstairs next to the pool and one upstairs where they host events.
Field of Dreams has 1 bar which serves as a front desk and center of all the action.
Grounds:
Blackbeard's grounds were immaculate.
Field of Dreams grounds were immaculate.
Restaurants:
Blackbeard's the food is reasonable and everything I ate was tan sabroso.
• Desayuno. Most of the breakfast items are a la cart. Eggs, bacon, toast and home-fries with a drink will cost approximately 250DP.
• Almuerzo. Chef salad. 195DP.
• Cena. Sanchocho con arroz why pan. 300DP.
Field of Dreams the menu was less extensive than Blackbeards and did not include comida tipico. In addition there were 1000DP items such as 10oz sirloin steak. In general everything was more expensive than Blackbeards. Everything I had was good.
• Desayuno. Most of the breakfast items are a la cart. Eggs, bacon, I had pancakes and fruit. The pancakes were good with a orange flavor to them. 210DP.
• Almuerzo. Caesar Salad with chicken 318DP. It came with cheese, I made it clear I didn't want cheese and they rectified it and brought me another salad.
• Cena. Pechuga de Pollo en Miel. 409DP. The chicken breast was juicy and I could taste a hint of honey and butter.
Noise:
Blackbeards during the day there was some repairing going on so I heard some hammering. At night if there is an event going on in the second bar upstairs you will be able to hear the music and noise associated with the crowd. After midnight everything shut down and it was tan tranquilo.
Field of Dreams At night if there is an event going on you will be able to hear the music and noise associated with the crowd. After midnight everything shut down and it was tan tranquilo. I woke up one morning to the sounds of a man having what sounded like a heart attack, I cannot imagine what he was doing.
Transportation:
Blackbeards staff can call a moto or taxi per your request.
Field of Dreams staff can call a taxi per your request. (no motos because of the location)
Safety:
Blackbeards has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.
Field of Dreams has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.
Excursions:
The below list of excursions is not exhaustive but just a sample of things to do:
Amber Museum. Puerto Plata.
Brugal Rum Tour- Puerto Plata.
Ocean World- Puerto Plata.
Damajagua Cascades (I guess it's like Dunn's River Falls in Jamaica)
Mount Isabel de Torres. The park and the Teleferico. Puerto Plata.
Puerto Plata town. El Centro (for shopping and souvenirs)
Golf in Playa Dorada
Horseback & ATVing.
Playa Dorada AI day pass for the beach.
Chicas:
Blackbeard's Chicas:
The chicas are directly accountable to 1 of 2 Mamasans who have the authority to hire and fire them. All complaints and issues with the chicas are to be resolved through the Mamasan because the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel. There are 2 groups of chicas. The afternoon shift 11am- 6pm approximately a dozen and the evening shift approximately 2 dozen from 5pm. Midnight. 1600DP for ST and 3000DP for TLN. The majority of the chicas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the Mamasan. When they arrive at work they sign in and are required to turn their cell phones in. (EXCELLENT idea) They will often start their shift in heels and end in flats and of course I can't blame them.
The chicas are very friendly with one another and will often approach you in pairs in order to encourage "Happy Hour." Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together.
The chicas ranged from 6-8 with some stars (close to 9) that could pass for models, but I would say the average would be rated a 7.
GFE & PSE.
All of the chicas I dealt with were pleasant some were more friendly than others. The sessions were professional but not mechanical. I could best describe them as somewhere between GFE and PSE, I found I either enjoyed the BBBJ or the sex more as can be expected each girl had her strengths and weaknesses.
Field of Dreams Chicas.
The chicas are directly accountable to a Mamasans or the manager on duty. All the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel. Some of the chicas live on the property. One of the chicas told me she lives in one large room with no TV that has 6 beds and sometimes sleeps 10 chicas. There are 2 groups of chicas the ones who live on sight and the ones who live off sight which stragle in during different parts of the day. The tarifa is 1600DP for ST and 3000DP for TLN. The majority of the chcas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the management. The chicas are not required to sign in or turn their cell phones in. There would be a dozen chicas on property at any time in comparison to twice as many at Blackbeards.
The chicas are very friendly with one another and they were a more lively group than the Blackbeards chicas. They do not work in pairs like the Blackbeards chicas. Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together. The chicas ranged from 5-7 with 1 or 2 close to 8. The chicas spent their time playing pool, in the pool or playing cards.
GFE & PSE.
All of the chicas I dealt with were pleasant some were more friendly than others. The sessions were not professional like Blackbeards I had my first PSE and GFE of the trip here. The chicas in general could not touch the Blackbeards chicas but they made up for it in attitude and fun.
Check in & Check out.
Blackbeard's has a check in desk, everything went smooth details are reviewed from their handbook and you are given your keys.
Field of Dreams has no check in desk and the office was closed upon my arrival. There is no handbook or orientation on how things work you are simply given your keys and fend for yourself.
Cambio:
• Wells Fargo Bank US: 37-1.
• Exchange POP airport: 36-1.
• Western Union (La Sirena Puerto Plata) : 42. 6-1.
• Jenny's Market Costambar: 42-1.
• Balckbeard's: 40-1
• Field of Dreams: 42-1.
Conclusion:
Both Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are inexpensive hotel options where mongers can practice this thing of ours in relative safety. They are excellent places for the novice monger or the veteran monger who does not want to hunt and desires everything at his fingertips. Since they both are controlled environments issues such as negotiation of tarifas, thefts and scams are rarely if ever an issue. The difference between the two options is Blackbeards is far more organized and efficient than Field of Dreams; in addition not only does Blackbeards have twice as many chicas on site than Field of Dreams the chicas of Blackbeards in general are far more attractive. I experienced 4 Blackbeards chicas and 2 Field of Dreams chicas and although I enjoyed them all I enjoyed my experience with the Field of Dreams chicas the most.
The primary advantage of Field of Dreams in my opinion is its location which is close to both the airport and Sosua. If a monger has a transportation he can more readily use Field of Dreams as a base of operations since Blackbeards is much further away from Sosua.
Finally if I was seeking a simple inexpensive sex vacation with the minimum of hassles I would choose Blackbeards over Field of Dreams any day of the week.
I just spent 2 days at Blackbeards and 2 days at Field of Dreams and I would like to share the below listed comments. Hopefully they will help someone going forward.
Locations:
Blackbeard's is in the Costmbar area outside Puerto Plata. It is a laid back gated community with a beach and very comfortable.
Both Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are inexpensive hotel options where mongers can practice this thing of ours in relative safety. They are excellent places for the novice monger or the veteran monger who does not want to hunt and desires everything at his fingertips. Since they both are controlled environments issues such as negotiation of tarifas, thefts and scams are rarely if ever an issue. The difference between the two options is Blackbeards is far more organized and efficient than Field of Dreams; in addition not only does Blackbeards have twice as many chicas on site than Field of Dreams the chicas of Blackbeards in general are far more attractive. I experienced 4 Blackbeards chicas and 2 Field of Dreams chicas and although I enjoyed them all I enjoyed my experience with the Field of Dreams chicas the most.
The primary advantage of Field of Dreams in my opinion is its location which is close to both the airport and Sosua. If a monger has a transportation he can more readily use Field of Dreams as a base of operations since Blackbeards is much further away from Sosua.
Finally if I was seeking a simple inexpensive sex vacation with the minimum of hassles I would choose Blackbeards over Field of Dreams any day of the week.Great report!
A couple of additional questions-
1. Where is the turnoff to Blackbeards / Costambar? I had a car and drove from STI and never saw any signs off the main road. I saw things like "Costambar Royal Hotel" so I knew that I was roughly in the area, but eventually just drove through it.
2. Did you you learn anything about how the STD testing between the two places compares?
3. Were the photos of the girls on the website / newsletter fairly representative? Or were they better or worse looking?
4. If you cabbed it, how much was the taxi / moto from BB to Sosua each way?
Thanks!
Marc Anthony
09-02-13, 01:40
There's nothing much at the intersection but it's the first road west of the river that crosses highway 5. It's on the right a few hundred feet past the bridge if heading west. The road only goes north of highway 5 and winds past some commercial buildings and a small barrio of shacks before reaching the Costambar entrance. It's easy to find on google earth or maps.
Camaro1257
09-02-13, 03:00
Great report!
A couple of additional questions-
1. Where is the turnoff to Blackbeards / Costambar? I had a car and drove from STI and never saw any signs off the main road. I saw things like "Costambar Royal Hotel" so I knew that I was roughly in the area, but eventually just drove through it.
2. Did you you learn anything about how the STD testing between the two places compares?
3. Were the photos of the girls on the website / newsletter fairly representative? Or were they better or
4. If you cabbed it, how much was the taxi / moto from BB to Sosua each way?
Thanks!1. I took a taxi I could not answer that question.
2. That would have been a good addition to the report but I didn't think to inquire about STD testing.
3. I didn't see photos of any chicas on either site.
4. I have been using the same taxista for years. I paid him 2000DP upon arrival because we ran alot of errands around POP before arriving at BB. I paid him 1500DP to go back to the airport.
Great report!
A couple of additional questions-
1. Where is the turnoff to Blackbeards / Costambar? I had a car and drove from STI and never saw any signs off the main road. I saw things like "Costambar Royal Hotel" so I knew that I was roughly in the area, but eventually just drove through it.
2. Did you you learn anything about how the STD testing between the two places compares?
3. Were the photos of the girls on the website / newsletter fairly representative? Or were they better or worse looking?
4. If you cabbed it, how much was the taxi / moto from BB to Sosua each way?
Thanks!Coming from Santiago it's easy to miss the entrance because its before the bridge. After you pass Confesori and the casinos its coming up. If you are heading to Santiago from puerto Plata, its after the bridge. My landmark I tell people is after you cross the bridge look to the right and you will see a big yellow house.
Similar to Camaro1257, I also spent 3 nights at Blackbeards. 2 at Field of Dreams and 2 at New Garden in Sosua.
Camaro1257 made an excellent report. Surprised we did not cross paths. I had the opportunity to hang with BundaMan, Chris Long and Senor Aqua Man. All great guys.
My first 3 nights were at Blackbeards. The place is very well organized. The prices are very inexpensive (food, lodging). It was nice to leave the resort by foot everyday to walk around around Costambar and go to the bach. I enjoyed the Katamaran and Solo Mea restaurants. Rooms were very basic but decent. The place is clean. The place is very structured and runs kind of like a summer camp. You know when something is happening. I. E. A shift change for the chicas.
I also had 2 nights at Field of Dreams. This place was much mellower than Blackbeards. The rooms and overall facility are better at Field of Dreams. High quality mattress. They did not have the same party atmosphere or comraderie as Blackbeards as it was very quiet when I was there.
I also had 2 nights in Sosua at New Garden. The room was poor. Behind the hotel there was a baseball field that had constant use. It was very loud. The announcer was blasting commentary until midnight on Saturday. Other times they just blasted music which I could not block out. It was if my TV was on full blast inside my room. No ability to nap or rest. Not relaxing. It was as if I was living in a Saturday Night Live skit-it was hilarious the way they played music between batters and danced between innings. Dominicans are passionate about their baseball. The action was at D'Latin or Rhumba Bar. They are both next to each other. All freelancers.
With regard to Chicas, Sosua had hundreds walking around at night. Many are pretty. However, I was not as comfortable being with a Chica that is not working under some controlled management. No medical testing and the fact they do not have to answer to management can result in trouble. You hear stories. No regrets. Sosua was a fun part of the vacation as it was a fun experience.
With regards to FOD and Blackbeards, I felt that Field of Dreams had a more attractive selection. IMHO, FOD chicas were far more GFE than Blackbeards. Possibly because it was a more intimate environment. Blackbeards girls were nice but I felt they were much more on a structured program.
To conclude, I highly recommend both FOD and Blackbeards. When I return I will go to both places as I like the variety and change after a few days. Staying at one place gets boring regardless of chicas, ambiance etc. For me it is not so much as would I choose one over the other but I would make the opportunity to go to both hotels for the variety.
R
Camaro1257
09-02-13, 17:24
Similar to Camaro1257, I also spent 3 nights at Blackbeards. 2 at Field of Dreams and 2 at New Garden in Sosua.
Camaro1257 made an excellent report. Surprised we did not cross paths. I had the opportunity to hang with BundaMan, Chris Long and Senor Aqua Man. All great guys.
My first 3 nights were at Blackbeards. The place is very well organized. The prices are very inexpensive (food, lodging). It was nice to leave the resort by foot everyday to walk around around Costambar and go to the bach. I enjoyed the Katamaran and Solo Mea restaurants. Rooms were very basic but decent. The place is clean. The place is very structured and runs kind of like a summer camp. You know when something is happening. I. E. A shift change for the chicas.
I also had 2 nights at Field of Dreams. This place was much mellower than Blackbeards. The rooms and overall facility are better at Field of Dreams. High quality mattress. They did not have the same party atmosphere or comraderie as Blackbeards as it was very quiet when I was there.
I also had 2 nights in Sosua at New Garden. The room was poor. Behind the hotel there was a baseball field that had constant use. It was very loud. The announcer was blasting commentary until midnight on Saturday. Other times they just blasted music which I could not block out. It was if my TV was on full blast inside my room. No ability to nap or rest. Not relaxing. It was as if I was living in a Saturday Night Live skit-it was hilarious the way they played music between batters and danced between innings. Dominicans are passionate about their baseball. The action was at D'Latin or Rhumba Bar. They are both next to each other. All freelancers.
With regard to Chicas, Sosua had hundreds walking around at night. Many are pretty. However, I was not as comfortable being with a Chica that is not working under some controlled management. No medical testing and the fact they do not have to answer to management can result in trouble. You hear stories. No regrets. Sosua was a fun part of the vacation as it was a fun experience.
With regards to FOD and Blackbeards, I felt that Field of Dreams had a more attractive selection. IMHO, FOD chicas were far more GFE than Blackbeards. Possibly because it was a more intimate environment. Blackbeards girls were nice but I felt they were much more on a structured program.
To conclude, I highly recommend both FOD and Blackbeards. When I return I will go to both places as I like the variety and change after a few days. Staying at one place gets boring regardless of chicas, ambiance etc. For me it is not so much as would I choose one over the other but I would make the opportunity to go to both hotels for the variety.
R. I enjoyed your commentary.
Similar to Camaro1257, I also spent 3 nights at Blackbeards. 2 at Field of Dreams and 2 at New Garden in Sosua.
With regard to Chicas, Sosua had hundreds walking around at night. Many are pretty. However, I was not as comfortable being with a Chica that is not working under some controlled management. No medical testing and the fact they do not have to answer to management can result in trouble. You hear stories. No regrets. Sosua was a fun part of the vacation as it was a fun experience.
With regards to FOD and Blackbeards, I felt that Field of Dreams had a more attractive selection. IMHO, FOD chicas were far more GFE than Blackbeards. Possibly because it was a more intimate environment. Blackbeards girls were nice but I felt they were much more on a structured program.
RNice report. I will have to check out BB someday. Gleaning through the forums, the multiple postings are about a wash. Some like FOD slightly better, others are vice versa.
And my opinion about Sosua is the same. Why bother when you have higher quality control environments at the same price?
Camaro1257
09-03-13, 00:28
Nice report. I will have to check out BB someday. Gleaning through the forums, the multiple postings are about a wash. Some like FOD slightly better, others are vice versa.
And my opinion about Sosua is the same. Why bother when you have higher quality control environments at the same price?. You make a good point. The difference is you have far more selection in Sosua than BB or FOD. IMHO BB & FOD are for low risk mongers who do not want to hunt. I enjoyed the relaxed hassle free environment of both venues but Sosua presents a challenge compelling me to use my language and social skills for a good result. IMHO Sosua presents more risk than BB or FOD but it also presents more rewards.
Camaro1257
09-03-13, 01:27
I was impressed!
We are all familiar with corrupt police and government officials as well as los tigueres de la calle that will try to rip you off and the mafiosa chicas who will do the same but I would like to share the following experiences in contrast:
•I accidently dropped a photo copy of my I'd and approximately 1500DP in small bills while sitting in the pool table area of the Field of Dreams. I got up and walked to my room and halfway there the bartender comes running behind me saying "oye!"and hands me my belongings. I need not say what could have happened.
•My chica and I emerged from our session to find the other chicas dressed in the uniform of the day which was lingerie. The Mamasan chewed my chica out and she had to pay a 100DP multa for the infraction. I tried to reimburse her 100DP and she said "no gracias."
•I decided to treat my chica to dinner since I was so satisfied with our session. There are 1000DP items on the menu but she orders a simple pollo a la parilla why papas fritas for about 300DP. My chica calls her amiga over divides her meal and drink in half and feeds her amiga. Her generosity and humility touched me mi corozon se derrite! The total bill came to 1100DP for everything and I can only say witnessing the spirit of what took place was worth every peso!
Husker Dude
09-03-13, 04:35
I was impressed!
We are all familiar with corrupt police and government officials as well as los tigueres de la calle that will try to rip you off and the mafiosa chicas who will do the same but I would like to share the following experiences in contrast:
•I accidently dropped a photo copy of my I'd and approximately 1500DP in small bills while sitting in the pool table area of the Field of Dreams. I got up and walked to my room and halfway there the bartender comes running behind me saying "oye!"and hands me my belongings. I need not say what could have happened.
•My chica and I emerged from our session to find the other chicas dressed in the uniform of the day which was lingerie. The Mamasan chewed my chica out and she had to pay a 100DP multa for the infraction. I tried to reimburse her 100DP and she said "no gracias."
•I decided to treat my chica to dinner since I was so satisfied with our session. There are 1000DP items on the menu but she orders a simple pollo a la parilla why papas fritas for about 300DP. My chica calls her amiga over divides her meal and drink in half and feeds her amiga. Her generosity and humility touched me mi corozon se derrite! The total bill came to 1100DP for everything and I can only say witnessing the spirit of what took place was worth every peso!Can you share these chicas names, so we can reward them with more business? I am headed to FOD and BB next week.
Sammy Sosa
09-03-13, 17:54
Yep.
I had a few dollars and coins on the desk of my hotel room the whole week. 12 chicas came to visit me. There is not a single coin missing.
(disclamer: I am very thorough in selecting girls to take back to my hotel. I've met a monger who had his laptop robbed by a girl)
I was impressed!
We are all familiar with corrupt police and government officials as well as los tigueres de la calle that will try to rip you off and the mafiosa chicas who will do the same but I would like to share the following experiences in contrast:
•I accidently dropped a photo copy of my I'd and approximately 1500DP in small bills while sitting in the pool table area of the Field of Dreams. I got up and walked to my room and halfway there the bartender comes running behind me saying "oye!"and hands me my belongings. I need not say what could have happened.
•My chica and I emerged from our session to find the other chicas dressed in the uniform of the day which was lingerie. The Mamasan chewed my chica out and she had to pay a 100DP multa for the infraction. I tried to reimburse her 100DP and she said "no gracias."
•I decided to treat my chica to dinner since I was so satisfied with our session. There are 1000DP items on the menu but she orders a simple pollo a la parilla why papas fritas for about 300DP. My chica calls her amiga over divides her meal and drink in half and feeds her amiga. Her generosity and humility touched me mi corozon se derrite! The total bill came to 1100DP for everything and I can only say witnessing the spirit of what took place was worth every peso!
Camaro1257
09-03-13, 18:41
Can you share these chicas names, so we can reward them with more business? I am headed to FOD and BB next week.Husker Dude I am sorry I do not recall her name. I am sure it is operator error but I have difficulty uploading pictures on this sight. If you PM me your e-mail I will send you her photo. She resembles Kelly Rowland of the girl group Destinys Child.
Camaro1257
09-03-13, 18:43
Yep.
I had a few dollars and coins on the desk of my hotel room the whole week. 12 chicas came to visit me. There is not a single coin missing.
(disclamer: I am very thorough in selecting girls to take back to my hotel. I've met a monger who had his laptop robbed by a girl) Would you care to share the hotel and your screening process?
Camaro1257
09-03-13, 21:03
Jacuzzi Option: Lo siento hermanos, I neglected to report about the Jacuzzi Option. You can take a girl into the Jacuzzi where both of you can get naked for about 30 minutes for 500DP. If you decide to session with her the 500DP is rolled into the regular tarifa 1600DP for ST and 3000DP for TLN. I did not try this option so I cannot make any personal observations.
Thanks for all the reports. I am really looking forward to a trip. I can't seem to find what ST means at blackbeard's, is it 1 hour? One or more pops?
Thanks
Camaro1257
09-04-13, 06:05
Thanks for all the reports. I am really looking forward to a trip. I can't seem to find what ST means at blackbeard's, is it 1 hour? One or more pops? Thanks.Blackbeards ST is 2 hours or 1 pop which ever comes first.
There's nothing much at the intersection but it's the first road west of the river that crosses highway 5. It's on the right a few hundred feet past the bridge if heading west. The road only goes north of highway 5 and winds past some commercial buildings and a small barrio of shacks before reaching the Costambar entrance. It's easy to find on google earth or maps.Thanks. I'll take a closer look for it next time.
Well I spent 7 wonderful days at BB from August 25 to September 1 the weather was gorgeous the food was good and there was Water in the Pool this time around. Unlike my previest trip in 2012 where they were doing renovations to the pool. The Staff was excellent and the Chicas were so great. This was my 3rd time there and every time it is been very memorable.
Charles Pooter
09-07-13, 18:08
I was not as comfortable being with a Chica that is not working under some controlled management. No medical testing
Did you you learn anything about how the STD testing between the two places compares?I don't want to knock any efforts at STD testing. Any additional layer of protection is to be welcomed.
However, I would stress to newbie valetudinarians that they should take exactly the same precautions with a chica from BB or FOD as they would with a free-lancer in Sosua, for the following reasons:
(1) It is very likely that within a few hours of their monthly (?) test the chica will be fucking bareback with her boyfriend or husband. Dominicans males from the underclass rarely use condoms. Many of the girls will have fucked bareback with numerous men, for fun or for extra financial inducement, before their next test comes around. The test is only valid until the chica walks out of the test-room.
(2) I have no confidence in any effort at testing or quality control made by Dominicans. Most of them are incompetent, many are corrupt, and a lot are both. It is has often been shown than pharmaceuticals sold here by well-known pharmacy chains are inferior clones or totally bogus. Most official jobs are handed to family members, political part stalwarts, to pay off debts or reward sexual favors, regardless of lack of qualifications.
While I was moving into my present Dominican apartment block, my friendly but busybody neighbour introduced herself. One of the first things she said was that, if I wanted a Dominican driving licence, she could get me one quickly for a small fee. As I was struggling with a three-seater sofa at the time, and had no intention of ever driving on this damned island, I did not particularly want to get involved in that conversation at that time so I said that I already had a contact for a bootleg driving licence. This greatly offended her and she pointed out that what she was offering was genuine not bootleg, as her daughter worked in the office that issues licences in Pto Pta and that it would bear the original signature of her daughter's boss.
This lady is extremely respectable and a devout Christian. As far as she was concerned the licences were legal and valid. It did not worry her that I would be bypassing the required driving and written tests. That is the Dominican way. I see no reason to think the people testing the putas would be any different. If there is any way they could cut corners to save trouble or embezzle money they would not think twice before doing so.
(3) There are not two classes of putas, those who work the casas and those who free-lance. Some may stick to one type of work, true, but I have been here long enough to see the same girls rotating round BB, FoD, Cristal, Passions, and numerous other bars and clubs, and free-lancing on the streets. In particular I have seen, and on occasion accompanied, girls from BB and FoD going to freelance after working their hours at the casa.
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So your chances of not picking up an STD at BB or FoD may be better, but not enough to take risks you would not take with a free-lancer in Sosua.
Charles Pooter
09-07-13, 18:33
Where is the turnoff to Blackbeards / Costambar? I had a car and drove from STI and never saw any signs off the main road.Coming from Santiago, once you are past Cofresi but before you get to Puerto Plata, look for the University on your left, with a Provocon restaurant facing it, and turn down that road. At the end of that road, turn right and when you come to the Costambar Gate turn left through it. The Gate is about a kilometre from the highway.
That way in the road is usually better maintained than the later turning, though the latter has improved no end from seven years ago when it was notorious.
I don't want to knock any efforts at STD testing. Any additional layer of protection is to be welcomed.
However, I would stress to newbie valetudinarians that they should take exactly the same precautions with a chica from BB or FOD as they would with a free-lancer in Sosua, for the following reasons:
(1) It is very likely that within a few hours of their monthly (?) test the chica will be fucking bareback with her boyfriend or husband. Dominicans males from the underclass rarely use condoms. Many of the girls will have fucked bareback with numerous men, for fun or for extra financial inducement, before their next test comes around. The test is only valid until the chica walks out of the test-room.
(2) I have no confidence in any effort at testing or quality control made by Dominicans. Most of them are incompetent, many are corrupt, and a lot are both. It is has often been shown than pharmaceuticals sold here by well-known pharmacy chains are inferior clones or totally bogus. Most official jobs are handed to family members, political part stalwarts, to pay off debts or reward sexual favors, regardless of lack of qualifications.
While I was moving into my present Dominican apartment block, my friendly but busybody neighbour introduced herself. One of the first things she said was that, if I wanted a Dominican driving licence, she could get me one quickly for a small fee. As I was struggling with a three-seater sofa at the time, and had no intention of ever driving on this damned island, I did not particularly want to get involved in that conversation at that time so I said that I already had a contact for a bootleg driving licence. This greatly offended her and she pointed out that what she was offering was genuine Not bootleg, as her daughter worked in the office that issues licences in Pto Pta and that it would bear the original signature of her daughter's boss.
This lady is extremely respectable and a devout Christian. As far as she was concerned the licences were legal and valid. It did not worry her that I would be bypassing the required driving and written tests. That is the Dominican way. I see no reason to think the people testing the putas would be any different. If there is any way they could cut corners to save trouble or embezzle money they would not think twice before doing so.
(3) There are not two classes of putas, those who work the casas and those who free-lance. Some may stick to one type of work, true, but I have been here long enough to see the same girls rotating round BB, FoD, Cristal, Passions, and numerous other bars and clubs, and free-lancing on the streets. In particular I have seen, and on occasion accompanied, girls from BB and FoD going to freelance after working their hours at the casa.
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So your chances of not picking up an STD at BB or FoD may be better, but not enough to take risks you would not take with a free-lancer in Sosua.Thanks for the input.
The way I see it, there are two factors that together determine the overall risk of any kind of STD transmission: 1) the risk from your behavior, and 2) the risk that your partner brings.
In regards to the first, one can minimize this by using a condom. Some even resort to taking prophylactic medications. Some guys are determined to go bareback, or to go down on them. I understand the temptation, as long as you keep in mind that the increased risk of STD transmission in this case is on YOU.
The second is the risk that she brings: I. E, her risk of carrying an STD of some kind. This is where going to venues where girls are tested can help. It doesn't guarantee anything, for all the reasons that you brought up. But it does reduce the probability that she has something. That's why I often ask questions about testing and STD prevalance. I know that I can control factor #1. But I always want to try and minimize factor #2 as well.
Every once in a while I will post such a question, especially in parts of the world that I am not familiar with, and I always get immediately jumped on by guys calling me "weak" or a "whiny newbie." I have read all kinds of twisted logic. I am wearing a condom, so her risk doesn't matter. STD testing is imperfect, so there is no point in even seeking it out. Whatever man. If you want to engage in higher risk behavior for a better experience, then that is your choice. But don't try to rationalize your behavior or salve your own fears by posting nonsense opinions. The way I see it, the only people that don't care about STDs are those that already have something.
BTW C Pooter, that last rant was not aimed at you. I just get tired of reading nonsense all over the forum. Peace.
Marc Anthony
09-08-13, 05:16
I don't want to knock any efforts at STD testing. Any additional layer of protection is to be welcomed.
However, I would stress to newbie valetudinarians that they should take exactly the same precautions with a chica from BB or FOD as they would with a free-lancer in Sosua, for the following reasons:
(1) It is very likely that within a few hours of their monthly (?) test the chica will be fucking bareback with her boyfriend or husband. Dominicans males from the underclass rarely use condoms. Many of the girls will have fucked bareback with numerous men, for fun or for extra financial inducement, before their next test comes around. The test is only valid until the chica walks out of the test-room.
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So your chances of not picking up an STD at BB or FoD may be better, but not enough to take risks you would not take with a free-lancer in Sosua.In my experience it's common in the social class of chicas we're discussing that "casual sex" is with a condom but sex with your novio is bareback as a matter of romantic commitment. After a week or so, chicas who want to take it to the next level will often say you are my love and my novio and you don't need a condom, and be disappointed at still using one as a rejection of their having novia status.
It's not likely that a policy about STD testing in this context, especially as Charles points out one administered by Dominicans, will produce results worth much consideration.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1469336]I don't want to knock any efforts at STD testing. Any additional layer of protection is to be welcomed.
However, I would stress to newbie valetudinarians that they should take exactly the same precautions with a chica from BB or FOD as they would with a free-lancer in Sosua, for the following reasons:
(1) It is very likely that within a few hours of their monthly (?) test the chica will be fucking bareback with her boyfriend or husband. Dominicans males from the underclass rarely use condoms. Many of the girls will have fucked bareback with numerous men, for fun or for extra financial inducement, before their next test comes around. The test is only valid until the chica walks out of the test-room.
Where would we take a girl to have her tested for a STD. Do they give her the test that day.
I am glad this discussion came up we get lax having a good time and want to forget about safety but guy's like you will give us a wake up and we listen
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1469336]I don't want to knock any efforts at STD testing. Any additional layer of protection is to be welcomed.
However, I would stress to newbie valetudinarians that they should take exactly the same precautions with a chica from BB or FOD as they would with a free-lancer in Sosua, for the following reasons:
(1) It is very likely that within a few hours of their monthly (?) test the chica will be fucking bareback with her boyfriend or husband. Dominicans males from the underclass rarely use condoms. Many of the girls will have fucked bareback with numerous men, for fun or for extra financial inducement, before their next test comes around. The test is only valid until the chica walks out of the test-room.
Where would we take a girl to have her tested for a STD. Do they give her the test that day.
I am glad this discussion came up we get lax having a good time and want to forget about safety but guy's like you will give us a wake up and we listenYou can buy a do-it-yourself instant test in a pharmacy.
After a week or so, chicas who want to take it to the next level will often say you are my love and my novio and you don't need a condom, and be disappointed at still using one as a rejection of their having novia status.
So almost like "if you love me f#k me raw! Interesting concept. The DR is very unique! LOL
[QUOTE=Grub1; 1469849]You can buy a do-it-yourself instant test in a pharmacy.Come on Frannie are you for real. If so have you tried them. What pharmacy did you get them at and what should I have to pay for it.
How long have they had them in the store's. Have they been reliable so far.
Thanks for all post
[QUOTE=Frannie; 1470006]Come on Frannie are you for real. If so have you tried them. What pharmacy did you get them at and what should I have to pay for it.
How long have they had them in the store's. Have they been reliable so far.
Thanks for all postI bought two kits in the pharmacy at the gas station in Sosua several years ago. Not very expensive, though I don't remember the price. My test was negative and proved in retrospect to be correct (!) but I have no statistics on reliability. Obviously better than nothing.
Charles Pooter
09-10-13, 12:40
You can buy a do-it-yourself instant test in a pharmacy.What STDs does it test for?
What STDs does it test for?HIV AIDS is what it tests for.
Something like this:
http://www.test-hiv-yourself.com/
Charles Pooter
09-10-13, 14:11
HIV AIDS is what it tests for.That is what I assumed. The OPs wrote about STDs in general, not HIV or AIDS in particular. There must be a thousand mongers catch other STDs for every one who catches HIV / AIDS. The great majority of those other diseases are trivial or not life-threatening but some can kill you more surely than AIDs and a damn sight quicker, plus a lot more which can fuck up your life without killing you quickly. I bet ten mongers die from Hepatitis for every one that dies from AIDs and twenty times as many die from smoking or excess alcohol.
To ignore the danger of AIDS is ignorant, but to be obsessed with it and ignore far more likely threats is more ignorant.
BigJohn1196
09-10-13, 16:41
That is what I assumed. The OPs wrote about STDs in general, not HIV or AIDS in particular. There must be a thousand mongers catch other STDs for every one who catches HIV / AIDS. The great majority of those other diseases are trivial or not life-threatening but some can kill you more surely than AIDs and a damn sight quicker, plus a lot more which can fuck up your life without killing you quickly. I bet ten mongers die from Hepatitis for every one that dies from AIDs and twenty times as many die from smoking or excess alcohol.
To ignore the danger of AIDS is ignorant, but to be obsessed with it and ignore far more likely threats is more ignorant.The statistics are quite right Mr Pooter.
What one needs to know about the test kit are the sensitivity and specificity. There will be false negatives due to there not being enough antibody in the blood but this does not mean the test in inaccurate. There will also be a few false positives because that is the way the test is set up by the manufacturer. The same thing happens in all lab based testing and the results are about the same accuracy as with the OTC kits. The only way one can be sure is to test for the virus itself and that is a lab abed and expensive test.
For other less threatening problems such as chlamydia and gonorrhea just wait for the drip. Clear, it is chlamydia and milky it is gonorrhea.
I remember the days when we thought getting herpes was the end of the world.
Marc Anthony
09-10-13, 17:56
After a week or so, chicas who want to take it to the next level will often say you are my love and my novio and you don't need a condom, and be disappointed at still using one as a rejection of their having novia status.
So almost like "if you love me f#k me raw! Interesting concept. The DR is very unique! LOLIt's a Catholic latin american country. Abortion is illegal. Birth control is available but the church disapproves of it and popular acceptance is mixed. The statement made by doing it raw is they are trusting you about STDs and are willing to have your baby which is a pretty strong statement.
Strong statement LOL. She probably hopes to get a child support from you. Anyone has an experience with unwanted pregnancy and chica's attempt to squeeze money out of you?
It's a Catholic latin american country. Abortion is illegal. Birth control is available but the church disapproves of it and popular acceptance is mixed. The statement made by doing it raw is they are trusting you about STDs and are willing to have your baby which is a pretty strong statement.
That is what I assumed. The OPs wrote about STDs in general, not HIV or AIDS in particular. There must be a thousand mongers catch other STDs for every one who catches HIV / AIDS. The great majority of those other diseases are trivial or not life-threatening but some can kill you more surely than AIDs and a damn sight quicker, plus a lot more which can fuck up your life without killing you quickly. I bet ten mongers die from Hepatitis for every one that dies from AIDs and twenty times as many die from smoking or excess alcohol.
To ignore the danger of AIDS is ignorant, but to be obsessed with it and ignore far more likely threats is more ignorant.Can we catch any of this shit from allowing a chica to suck our dick with out a condom
Charles Pooter
09-11-13, 23:52
Can we catch any of this shit from allowing a chica to suck our dick with out a condomSure, but not a great risk unless she has obvious herpes sores on her lips. The risk would be greater for her to catch something from you. When the day comes to resorting to blowjobs with condoms it is time to give up mongering and take up a safer hobby like pressing wild flowers.
Sure, but not a great risk unless she has obvious herpes sores on her lips. The risk would be greater for her to catch something from you. When the day comes to resorting to blowjobs with condoms it is time to give up mongering and take up a safer hobby like pressing wild flowers.That's good news because we never get with any chica who has any sore's at all that you could see
Chris Long
09-14-13, 08:49
This is a how to guide for first time visitors to Black Beards resort (BB) http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/ Or as I like to call it the fuck until you can't stand any more resort.
Airport:
The airport that you fly into when visiting Black Beards is Puerto Plata POP, the airport has had some recent renovations made to it and is pretty nice. There is a $10 visa you pay when you arrive then you go through immigration have your passport stamped turn to your right after that and collect your luggage, there are money exchanges in the luggage retrieval area but they offer a lousy rate and you should avoid exchanging your money there. Once you retrieve your luggage you go through customs which is a cursory check sometimes they will have you put your luggage through an x-ray sometime they don't even have you do that. After this you will go through the doors turn left and exit the building, there will be guys in white shirts offering to carry your luggage for you but you really don't need these guys it's only a few steps to exit. Once you exit the building the drivers will be standing to your right.
Transportation:
Black beards will arrange your airport pick up for you the cost is $45 one way, if there are more guests on the same flight the cost will be a little less. I believe if they are picking up two people the cost will be $30 each. You pay the taxi fee when you check into the hotel you do not pay the driver directly. There is a bit of a taxi mafia and not all free-lance taxi drivers at the airport will be willing to take you to BB. Once at BB you will have to use the local taxi drivers because of the taxi mafia and rates can be a little step in my opinion. BB will also arrange your return taxi back to the airport at the same price.
Costambar:
Black Beards is located in Costambar a gated community within Puerto Plata. It is an upper class neighborhood near the beach where more affluent Dominicans live and where foreigners will rent or buy summer homes. The area has some nice homes a few other nice resorts and a few nice restaurants. There are also a few vacation homes that are abandoned and not lived in. The area is safe, clean and beautiful
Black Beards:
Black Beards is a clean well run attractive resort, the rooms are well kept comfortable and beautiful, air-conditioning refrigerator in room safe hot and cold running water. A restaurant and bar which has good food at a reasonable price, a pool, pool table, Jacuzzi and other amenities, the resort is attractive comfortable and hospitable.
Chicas:
The chicas work in two shift from 11:am until 6. M and from 6. M until midnight there are anywhere from a dozen or so chicas per shift, there shifts vary so every day and every shift the combination of chicas is slightly different. Price is 1600 pesos for a couple hours and 3000 pesos for all night. 500 pesos for a blow job in the Jacuzzi, however if you release you owe the full session price of 1600. Many of the chicas can be aggressive in trying to get you to session with them. Many will try to make an appointment with you for later that day or the next day. If you schedule an appointment with a chica you are required to keep it, if you don't keep the appointment you still owe the chica her fee. Often I would see chicas I wanted so I would arrange appointments with them only to wish I hadn't later as I would see other chicas that I wanted to do instead. There is a momason who manages the chicas for each shift, you can arrange an appointment with a chica through the momason or even ask her which chicas will do certain fetishes.
During the day time the chicas gather around the pool or the bar wearing bikinis at night they wear sexy nightclub clothes and around 9. M or so they gather upstairs at the disco in BB. Often there will be a theme night wear the girls will wear certain types of outfits.
There are no outside freelancers wondering into BB. All of the girls there are BB girls. None actually work through the hotel itself but work through the momason. You can bring in outside girls if you like but outside freelance girls are not allowed to wonder in on their own looking for customers.
In my opinion many of the chicas are very, very hot and I was pleased with the beauty I found at BB. I felt this on my first trip there and I still feel this today. You could close your eyes and point at the crowd of girl and you would be happy with the looks of the one you picked.
After midnight the chicas leave and the place becomes pretty deserted at that time.
Services:
All girls give BBBJ all girls allowed DATY all girls did light FK. The services are good from many of the girls, however, there is a certain amount of assembly line routineness from some of the girls and a certain amount of bad acting in the bedroom from some of the girls. Almost all of the girls are however very skilled in their craft, and many do in fact enjoy what they do.
I've never tried to do them more than once during the two hour session so I don't know if it's one and done or you can do them as much as you want during the time paid for it may depend upon the girl.
For all night most girls do you once at night and once in the morning but I have had girls I've done several times throughout the night, most girls leave around 8 or 9 in the morning when I've had them spend the night.
Freelancers:
On previous trips I was told by other guest there are freelancers available in the area especially on the beach. Personally I never seen anyone I could say was a definite freelancer especially on the beach. On this trip however I ran into two chicas who were definite free lancers one was not attractive enough to spark my interest and the other looked questionable in age so I took a pass on both of them. There are regular girls who live in the area and families who visit the beach many of these girls are attractive. Often when passing these girls I would glance their way and say Hola, none ever showed much interest or slowed down there walk, but I am 50ish and overweight. I have been with other younger apparently more appealing mongers who have gotten big smiles and even had the local girls approach them.
If there are freelancers in the area they are not available in large number or overly obvious. You can take them back to BB if they have identification but the BB girls really frown on this.
Prices:
As stated above price at BB are 1600 pesos for a couple hours and 3000 pesos all night and 500 pesos for a blow job in the Jacuzzi but if you release you owe the full 1600 pesos. The freelancer was quoting me 1500 pesos. I always paid the BB girls after the session never before and you should always pay after no matter where in the world you are mongering. None ever asked me for tips or required extra for BBBJ this comes with the standard price.
Money:
Everything works in Pesos though you can pay the girl the equivalent in dollars if you do not have pesos. I have done this a few times in the past and the girls were fine with this.
The best place to exchange your money is at Yenneys super market it's a convenient store in Costambar and an easy walk from BB. Once you exit BB turn to your right and take the road until it end and then turn right stay straight on the road you will come to Yenneys on your left. They have the best exchange rates in the area and the guy who exchanges the money speaks English. You can ask your driver to stop there before he takes you to BB when you arrive.
BB will also exchange your money but they have a terrible exchange rate and you are better off going to Yenneys.
Language:
They speak Spanish in the DR and at BB. The managers Cliff and Tim both speak English some of the staff speak English the momasons speak English and a few, very few, of the girls will speak English but the girls all know what you are there for and language will never be a problem when dealing with the girls.
Safety:
As stated above the area is very safe, I walked around during the day and walked to the restaurant and Yenneys at night by myself and felt perfectly safe.
The Beach:
The beach is just a stones through away from BB and is a pretty nice beach. Once you exit BB turn to your left take the road a few paces until it end turn to your rate and take the road a few paces to the beach. The beach is nice and many families visit the beach, I have been told there are freelancers on the beach but I never seen anyone I could say was a freelancer. There are families on the beach and some attractive girls but most if not all seem to be with their families.
Final Thoughts:
Black Beards is a great place for a beginning monger especially for a new monger to the Dominican Republic. It's a great way to get your feet wet in this life style and to make your introduction into the Dominican mongering scene. There is a standard structure so you know what to expect, if there are any issues you can take them to the momason.
While I was at BB I was struck by the tremendous problem of logistics. Many of the girls at BB are desperate for customers and I often felt sorry for them as they wanted nothing more than to have someone chose them so they could make some money. Right now there are maybe a thousand or more Horney dicks reading this report, at the same time there are a dozen or more very hot chicas sitting around the pool at BB who for around $40 would love to do nothing more than bounce up and down on top of those Horney dicks, logistics, connecting the Horney dicks to the desperate chicas?
Chris
This is a how to guide for first time visitors to Black Beards resort (BB)
http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/
Or as I like to call it the fuck until you can't stand any more resort.
Airport:
The airport that you fly into when visiting Black Beards is Puerto Plata POP, the airport has had some recent renovations made to it and is pretty nice. There is a $10 visa you pay when you arrive then you go through immigration have your passport stamped turn to your right after that and collect your luggage, there are money exchanges in the luggage retrieval area but they offer a lousy rate and you should avoid exchanging your money there. Once you retrieve your luggage you go through customs which is a cursory check sometimes they will have you put your luggage through an x-ray sometime they don't even have you do that. After this you will go through the doors turn left and exit the building, there will be guys in white shirts offering to carry your luggage for you but you really don't need these guys it's only a few steps to exit. Once you exit the building the drivers will be standing to your right.
Transportation:
Black beards will arrange your airport pick up for you the cost is $45 one way, if there are more guests on the same flight the cost will be a little less. I believe if they are picking up two people the cost will be $30 each. You pay the taxi fee when you check into the hotel you do not pay the driver directly. There is a bit of a taxi mafia and not all free-lance taxi drivers at the airport will be willing to take you to BB. Once at BB you will have to use the local taxi drivers because of the taxi mafia and rates can be a little step in my opinion. BB will also arrange your return taxi back to the airport at the same price.
Costambar:
Black Beards is located in Costambar a gated community within Puerto Plata. It is an upper class neighborhood near the beach where more affluent Dominicans live and where foreigners will rent or buy summer homes. The area has some nice homes a few other nice resorts and a few nice restaurants. There are also a few vacation homes that are abandoned and not lived in. The area is safe, clean and beautiful
Black Beards:
Black Beards is a clean well run attractive resort, the rooms are well kept comfortable and beautiful, air-conditioning refrigerator in room safe hot and cold running water. A restaurant and bar which has good food at a reasonable price, a pool, pool table, Jacuzzi and other amenities, the resort is attractive comfortable and hospitable.
Chicas:
The chicas work in two shift from 11:am until 6. M and from 6. M until midnight there are anywhere from a dozen or so chicas per shift, there shifts vary so every day and every shift the combination of chicas is slightly different. Price is 1600 pesos for a couple hours and 3000 pesos for all night. 500 pesos for a blow job in the Jacuzzi, however if you release you owe the full session price of 1600. Many of the chicas can be aggressive in trying to get you to session with them. Many will try to make an appointment with you for later that day or the next day. If you schedule an appointment with a chica you are required to keep it, if you don't keep the appointment you still owe the chica her fee. Often I would see chicas I wanted so I would arrange appointments with them only to wish I hadn't later as I would see other chicas that I wanted to do instead. There is a momason who manages the chicas for each shift, you can arrange an appointment with a chica through the momason or even ask her which chicas will do certain fetishes.
During the day time the chicas gather around the pool or the bar wearing bikinis at night they wear sexy nightclub clothes and around 9. M or so they gather upstairs at the disco in BB. Often there will be a theme night wear the girls will wear certain types of outfits.
There are no outside freelancers wondering into BB. All of the girls there are BB girls. None actually work through the hotel itself but work through the momason. You can bring in outside girls if you like but outside freelance girls are not allowed to wonder in on their own looking for customers.
In my opinion many of the chicas are very, very hot and I was pleased with the beauty I found at BB. I felt this on my first trip there and I still feel this today. You could close your eyes and point at the crowd of girl and you would be happy with the looks of the one you picked.
After midnight the chicas leave and the place becomes pretty deserted at that time.
Services:
All girls give BBBJ all girls allowed DATY all girls did light FK. The services are good from many of the girls, however, there is a certain amount of assembly line routineness from some of the girls and a certain amount of bad acting in the bedroom from some of the girls. Almost all of the girls are however very skilled in their craft, and many do in fact enjoy what they do.
I've never tried to do them more than once during the two hour session so I don't know if it's one and done or you can do them as much as you want during the time paid for it may depend upon the girl.
For all night most girls do you once at night and once in the morning but I have had girls I've done several times throughout the night, most girls leave around 8 or 9 in the morning when I've had them spend the night.
Freelancers:
On previous trips I was told by other guest there are freelancers available in the area especially on the beach. Personally I never seen anyone I could say was a definite freelancer especially on the beach. On this trip however I ran into two chicas who were definite free lancers one was not attractive enough to spark my interest and the other looked questionable in age so I took a pass on both of them. There are regular girls who live in the area and families who visit the beach many of these girls are attractive. Often when passing these girls I would glance their way and say Hola, none ever showed much interest or slowed down there walk, but I am 50ish and overweight. I have been with other younger apparently more appealing mongers who have gotten big smiles and even had the local girls approach them.
If there are freelancers in the area they are not available in large number or overly obvious. You can take them back to BB if they have identification but the BB girls really frown on this.
Prices:
As stated above price at BB are 1600 pesos for a couple hours and 3000 pesos all night and 500 pesos for a blow job in the Jacuzzi but if you release you owe the full 1600 pesos. The freelancer was quoting me 1500 pesos. I always paid the BB girls after the session never before and you should always pay after no matter where in the world you are mongering. None ever asked me for tips or required extra for BBBJ this comes with the standard price.
Money:
Everything works in Pesos though you can pay the girl the equivalent in dollars if you do not have pesos. I have done this a few times in the past and the girls were fine with this.
The best place to exchange your money is at Yenneys super market it's a convenient store in Costambar and an easy walk from BB. Once you exit BB turn to your right and take the road until it end and then turn right stay straight on the road you will come to Yenneys on your left. They have the best exchange rates in the area and the guy who exchanges the money speaks English. You can ask your driver to stop there before he takes you to BB when you arrive.
BB will also exchange your money but they have a terrible exchange rate and you are better off going to Yenneys.
Language:
They speak Spanish in the DR and at BB. The managers Cliff and Tim both speak English some of the staff speak English the momasons speak English and a few, very few, of the girls will speak English but the girls all know what you are there for and language will never be a problem when dealing with the girls.
Safety:
As stated above the area is very safe, I walked around during the day and walked to the restaurant and Yenneys at night by myself and felt perfectly safe.
The Beach:
The beach is just a stones through away from BB and is a pretty nice beach. Once you exit BB turn to your left take the road a few paces until it end turn to your rate and take the road a few paces to the beach. The beach is nice and many families visit the beach, I have been told there are freelancers on the beach but I never seen anyone I could say was a freelancer. There are families on the beach and some attractive girls but most if not all seem to be with their families.
Final Thoughts:
Black Beards is a great place for a beginning monger especially for a new monger to the Dominican Republic. It's a great way to get your feet wet in this life style and to make your introduction into the Dominican mongering scene. There is a standard structure so you know what to expect, if there are any issues you can take them to the momason.
While I was at BB I was struck by the tremendous problem of logistics. Many of the girls at BB are desperate for customers and I often felt sorry for them as they wanted nothing more than to have someone chose them so they could make some money. Right now there are maybe a thousand or more Horney dicks reading this report, at the same time there are a dozen or more very hot chicas sitting around the pool at BB who for around $40 would love to do nothing more than bounce up and down on top of those Horney dicks, logistics, connecting the Horney dicks to the desperate chicas?
ChrisAirport:
You may want to consider STI airport, comparing to POP it could sometimes save you hundreds of dollars on overpriced airline tickets, just add extra 90 bucks BOTH ways for taxi.
Transportation:
On the day of departure, ask around if anyone leaving for the same flight. And even if you are alone, the price is 1500 pesos, not 45$.
Services:
BBBJ is not exactly a standart, but if your personal hygiene is good you may expect it 99% of encounters.
Some chicas may want to leave earlier than 8 or 9, so if you are committing to TLN ask beforehand.
Freelancers:
I was approached by them a few times on my way to supermarket and on the beach, but BB chicas are a better choice.
Money:
Discuss the amount in $ if you are out of pesos BEFOREHAND, I used to have some unpleasant discussions with taxi driver about exchange rate, they tried to use 15-25% lower exchange rate, no problems with chicas, but it is better to agree beforehand.
Restaurants:
BB's restaurant is the best in Costambar. I guess I've tried all of them in the area and there were quite a few problems with food quality and stomach issues. The only other good one is Solo Mio which is 5 minutes walk from BB; the same good quality as BB, but choice of sea food is much better, plus decent pizza.
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1471886]This is a how to guide for first time visitors to Black Beards resort (BB)
http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/
Or as I like to call it the fuck until you can't stand any more resort.
Many thanks, Chris. You are the consummate researcher! Were there any exceptionally busty beauties at BB? I am going there for the first time in Jan 2015.
ReadyToGetOnIt
09-21-13, 17:23
Thanks for the newbie guide. I've always been curious about that place, but since I popped my DR cherry in Sosua, I may never go. Your pics are awesome!
Thanks for the newbie guide. I've always been curious about that place, but since I popped my DR cherry in Sosua, I may never go. Your pics are awesome!I like your selection Chris. Good report!
Wanderer1000
09-25-13, 03:29
I'm just beginning to research this interesting island after having 4 Dominicanas on a recent trip in Europe.
This tour69 looks like an interesting place to spend a week.
Anybody have any experience with them?
Charles Pooter
09-25-13, 05:17
This tour69 looks like an interesting place to spend a week.You don't need no stinkin' tours or package deals. Most are a big rip-off and the rest are just over-priced. You are just paying parasites to do stuff for you that you can do cheaper for yourself. More important, you are locked into their program and if you don't like any aspect of it you are fucked.
If you are not up to finding your own chicas (too physically unfit, too socially inept, not a word of Spanish or French, or whatever) , then stay at Blackbeards or Field of Dreams. Both safe bets. Blackbeards will give you a bigger choice of chicas, though if you are only staying a week you wouldn't run out of options at Field of Dreams, and the latter is better located if you want to vary your stay with off-campus visits to Sosua and Puerto Plata.
I think you would like both places but the difference is, if you don't, you can move out and try somewhere else. You are not committed for your whole week.
If you are up to finding your own chicas, you might try Sosua, either for the whole week or for the final three or four days after getting your feet wet at either of the two establishments I mentioned. You can get by in Sosua with nil Spanish if you hook up with experienced mongers to show your the ropes, but nowhere else in the DR.
Incidentally, I tried to look at your alleged 327 previous posts to get an idea of your tastes and experience before responding, but could only call up 4. Any idea why that is?
I'm just beginning to research this interesting island after having 4 Dominicanas on a recent trip in Europe.
This tour69 looks like an interesting place to spend a week.
Anybody have any experience with them?I apologize for Pooter's mean-spirited response. But he is essentially correct. You don't need a tour. You haven't been there yet, so its hard to imagine, but chicas are everywhere. Once you've been there, you'll understand why someone might think your question is odd. Its a main draw of the area. That's understood. Read up on BB, FOD, and Oxygen.
The only thing that a tour might help for is transport. Although its a controversial topic, I would recommend renting a car. Just be sure to get ALL the appropriate insurance. Otherwise, any organized tour sounds like a scam to me.
RockHound74
10-03-13, 16:55
This is a how to guide for first time visitors to Black Beards resort (BB)
http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/
Or as I like to call it the fuck until you can't stand any more resort.
Final Thoughts:
Black Beards is a great place for a beginning monger especially for a new monger to the Dominican Republic. It's a great way to get your feet wet in this life style and to make your introduction into the Dominican mongering scene. There is a standard structure so you know what to expect, if there are any issues you can take them to the momason.
While I was at BB I was struck by the tremendous problem of logistics. Many of the girls at BB are desperate for customers and I often felt sorry for them as they wanted nothing more than to have someone chose them so they could make some money. Right now there are maybe a thousand or more Horney dicks reading this report, at the same time there are a dozen or more very hot chicas sitting around the pool at BB who for around $40 would love to do nothing more than bounce up and down on top of those Horney dicks, logistics, connecting the Horney dicks to the desperate chicas?
ChrisThis is a great report. I have been to BBs once but I have always wanted to go back especially with the Sosua changes.
The Rock
Charles Pooter
10-03-13, 19:33
I apologize for Pooter's mean-spirited response.
Read up on BB, FOD, and Oxygen.Thanks for apologizing on my behalf, Manny, and so eloquently. Would you be interested in the position of my regular apologist? There would be plenty of work as I am often mean-spirited. Pay is not so good though.
But if one of your conditions is that you are allowed to include a plug for Oxygen in every post, then the deal is off. I cannot be associated with taking advantage of innocent newbies.
Thanks for apologizing on my behalf, Manny, and so eloquently. Would you be interested in the position of my regular apologist? There would be plenty of work as I am often mean-spirited. Pay is not so good though.
But if one of your conditions is that you are allowed to include a plug for Oxygen in every post, then the deal is off. I cannot be associated with taking advantage of innocent newbies.So I guess you've noticed that I like Oxygen. And no, I do not work for them, know the owner, or own any of its stock on the NASDAQ.
Yes it is expensive. But at least in the past, in regards to safety, GFE, and no cons, it was unmatched. And though pricey, it does have periodic "sales." I still think its reasonable as a once in a while splurge. Personally, I think that they need to lower the prices or it will eventually go out of business.
I understand how its out of some people's price range, but so are call girls in Moscow. I just don't understand why so many people hate on it.
Wanderer1000
10-03-13, 22:30
Thanks Charles and Manny,
I probably should have RTFF more before I asked. I have spent a lot of time reading the posts in the last week, and I understand the wisdom of not getting locked in somewhere for more than a few days. I have been going to the FKK / Sauna Clubs of Germany a lot over the last five years, so I've gotten used to the lazier and more controlled environment. I traveled to Latin America a lot in the 90's, and I used to be a little more free in handling how I operate; even though I liked the termas in Rio a lot.
A regular day in Germany with a club, car, and hotel can easily average $300 a day. Even though a place like Oxygen is supposed to be 5 star and a 24 hour GFE with an additional girl for 2 hours for $629 per night, I'm not sure if I want a girl around me that much. I'd have to be lucky and have some serious chemistry the first day or two to view that money as well spent. But, I think it could be worth a 3 night stay just to experience the scene.
I see the value of BB and FOD with just getting a room and going a la carte. Especially as a newbie. It has just enough controlled environment, and I could choose ST or TLN depending on how I was feeling. One of the things that the Germany scene limits is the TLN or extended time periods. It can get quite expensive for any extended time if you have a chick you click with and just want to have a more relaxing time together. That's the one thing I don't like; the lack of flexibility for an experience. I think the DR offers more flexibility of experience, and more opportunities for the GFE, even though it lacks the variety of looks.
I guess I'm ready to get back to the Latinas for more of that loving feeling. Thanks for all your help.
Thanks Charles and Manny,
I probably should have RTFF more before I asked. I have spent a lot of time reading the posts in the last week, and I understand the wisdom of not getting locked in somewhere for more than a few days. I have been going to the FKK / Sauna Clubs of Germany a lot over the last five years, so I've gotten used to the lazier and more controlled environment. I traveled to Latin America a lot in the 90's, and I used to be a little more free in handling how I operate; even though I liked the termas in Rio a lot.
A regular day in Germany with a club, car, and hotel can easily average $300 a day. Even though a place like Oxygen is supposed to be 5 star and a 24 hour GFE with an additional girl for 2 hours for $629 per night, I'm not sure if I want a girl around me that much. I'd have to be lucky and have some serious chemistry the first day or two to view that money as well spent. But, I think it could be worth a 3 night stay just to experience the scene.
I see the value of BB and FOD with just getting a room and going a la carte. Especially as a newbie. It has just enough controlled environment, and I could choose ST or TLN depending on how I was feeling. One of the things that the Germany scene limits is the TLN or extended time periods. It can get quite expensive for any extended time if you have a chick you click with and just want to have a more relaxing time together. That's the one thing I don't like; the lack of flexibility for an experience. I think the DR offers more flexibility of experience, and more opportunities for the GFE, even though it lacks the variety of looks.
I guess I'm ready to get back to the Latinas for more of that loving feeling. Thanks for all your help.If you have a car, you can check out all these places, and post your opinion. You don't have to stay at Oxygen the whole time. In fact, if you drive yourself there, they will probably lower the price for you.
And BTW, it is NOT 5 star. 3.5 star is more accurate. It is not a place you go for high volume. It's where you go for GFE and peace of mind. That's what you are paying for. Even the occasional punter will tell you how that is getting harder and harder to come by these days, anywhere.
Has anyone been to Cristal's in Puerto Plata lately, what is the price for take out.
Thanks
They have a very bed rep for being very over priced. Few guys who are not blind drunk pay the price. The women and the drinks are very over priced.
Has anyone been to Cristal's in Puerto Plata lately, what is the price for take out.
Thanks
Charles Pooter
10-09-13, 02:36
Has anyone been to Cristal's in Puerto Plata lately, what is the price for take out.Was there a few nights ago (against my better judgment to humor a visiting friend). He was quoted 6000 for TLN. There may be a cheaper rate for quicker turn-round, but I don't think so.
My friend doesn't count the pesos like me, but that was a bit steep even for him so he took out a girl from Blackbeards at half the price instead and probably a nicer girl too. Anyway he liked her a lot.
There were a lot of chicas available in Cristal at around 11. 00. More than I have seen there for years. At that price I am not surprised there were few takers.
Another downside for me is that the music is all American club music (used to be largely local music) and played so loud it was impossible to hold a conversation, so we didn't even stick around to finish our (expensive) drinks.
If you are a high roller you might be interested in the Cocoa Club (formerly El Bohen). Rumor has it that it is even more expensive than Cristal. Has anyone been there lately?
If you are a high roller you might be interested in the Cocoa Club (formerly El Bohen). Rumor has it that it is even more expensive than Cristal. Has anyone been there lately?Is that spot owned or run by an Afro-American dude? http://youtu.be/-cctqWJ9Y7k
http://cocoanightclubandsportsbar.com/
A friend and I went in April of this year 2013. I think it was a Sunday night the place was dead.
It was about 11pm and only 1 other guy at the bar. We sat down and was swamp by about 20 girls most were doable.
There was a stage show and girls kept asking for drinks only stay 15 minutes. Pick a girl for take out and she spoke almost no enlish.
Took her to the bar and was told $150 US Dollars I guess they don't want there own money. We left alone the price was out of my range.
The door guy ask for tip for watching our car he said business in no so good.
Here a pic of girls who use hang out at the bar across from Cristal about 10 years ago. 500DR for the whole night thoses were the days.
Charles Pooter
10-09-13, 04:49
Is that spot owned or run by an Afro-American dude?
http://youtu.be/-cctqWJ9Y7k
http://cocoanightclubandsportsbar.com/I have no idea but if you look at the website it is obviously written by someone who cannot speak English but who thinks they can. That misplaced confidence is typically Dominican.
It always amazes me in this country that Dominicans can spend quite a lot of money on signage, catalogues, press releases, menus, etc, in English, but not ask a native English speaker to spend a minute or ten to look through them and weed out the most glaring mistakes. In most cases they could find ex-pats only too willing to do it gratis. So many Dominicans pay for these crap English courses and think they can speak English as a result. You only have to look at the text-books they use to see it is the blind leading the blind.
Now my progress in Spanish in the years I have been here is disgraceful, but at least I don't have any illusions about it, and on the few occasions I need write to something in Spanish I get a literate local to check it out.
If you are a high roller you might be interested in the Cocoa Club (formerly El Bohen). Rumor has it that it is even more expensive than Cristal. Has anyone been there lately?
By coincidence someone has just posted elsewhere they did a chica on-site there for US$80. That is about what Cristal used to charge for the same service (not sure if it still is). Twice as much as I would ever want to pay, but obviously some guys don't mind.
A friend and I went in April of this year 2013.
I presume this is Cristal, not Cocoa Club?
Charles Pooter
10-09-13, 05:08
Took her to the bar and was told $150 US Dollars I guess they don't want there own money.You can always pay in pesos everywhere, but US$150 is 6375 pesos so they make a bit more out of you. A lot of Americans think there is some advantage in paying in US dollars and don't change their money. Rarely a good idea in the DR.
Charles Pooter
10-09-13, 05:16
Here a pic of girls who use hang out at the bar across from Cristal about 10 years ago. 500DR for the whole night thoses were the days.I just caught the tail-end of that scene before they flattened the area, but by my day the price had gone up to 1000 pesos and you had to weed through carefully to find a diamond in the rough. Far fewer haitianas around at that time. Puerto Plata was still a thriving red light town but within another two years it all died and the scene moved to Sosua. If they do really crack down in Sosua some of the trade might come back to Pto Pta (salida bars, I mean, not those roadside fuck-shacks).
I have no idea but if you look at the website it is obviously written by someone who cannot speak English but who thinks they can.That definitely would not preclude him from being an America. Ebonics and slang aside, there are many Americans that are literally unintelligible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jUTzivZNO8).
I saw the following on the FB page. David K Smith does not "sound" like a Dominican name.
Charles Pooter
10-09-13, 13:25
I saw the following on the FB page. David K Smith does not "sound" like a Dominican name.I didn't mean to contradict you. I know nothing about the place.
That definitely would not preclude him from being an America. Ebonics and slang aside, there are many Americans that are literally unintelligible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jUTzivZNO8).I am English so I will diplomatically keep my views on that topic to myself.
Lakeside32
10-09-13, 13:53
You guys should have jobs editing newspapers or something. If you're coming from the USA you should be careful throwing that "dumb" label around. [Deleted by Admin]
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ThunderStar
10-09-13, 23:13
So I was out there just a few weeks ago. And took an old English guy to Crystals. Just to humor him!
Crystals has had a "mini tart up" since our last visit 18 months ago.
No fire place on the stage any more, the mold is gone from the ceiling, but the music is no longer "Dominican".
The girls however. Looked less aggressive than previous visits.
There was one the peaked my interest, however. 6000 is still £100 English money or two girls from Blackbeards.
In the past. Our best girl has been from Crystals. A lovely Haitian girl who was our best experience ever. But I can't understand than in these difficult economic times why Crystals stays at 6000!
I just caught the tail-end of that scene before they flattened the area, but by my day the price had gone up to 1000 pesos and you had to weed through carefully to find a diamond in the rough. Far fewer haitianas around at that time. Puerto Plata was still a thriving red light town but within another two years it all died and the scene moved to Sosua. If they do really crack down in Sosua some of the trade might come back to Pto Pta (salida bars, I mean, not those roadside fuck-shacks).Long Beach was always pretty lively. Sosua was lively then too, but there were a lot less mongers in Sosua. You had Blackbeards and a couple of other Blackbeard type spots and stip clubs in Costambar. Those were the days!
I have no idea but if you look at the website it is obviously written by someone who cannot speak English but who thinks they can. That misplaced confidence is typically Dominican.
It always amazes me in this country that Dominicans can spend quite a lot of money on signage, catalogues, press releases, menus, etc, in English, but not ask a native English speaker to spend a minute or ten to look through them and weed out the most glaring mistakes. In most cases they could find ex-pats only too willing to do it gratis.I'm not so sure of that. The writing on the Web site is pretentious to be sure, but this is because the person is trying to make it sound as if this knocking shop is some kind of sophisticated bordello where one might run into painters like Matisse and Gaugin drinking absinthe on their night off with a few of their models, but native speakers of English could easily be capable of such pomposity. Clearly whoever wrote the copy on the Web site lacked awareness of finer points of English like positioning of hyphens and uses a few words incorrectly or spelled wrongly, but I don't think it is true that any expat could set them straight. The average expat has no knowledge of copy writing or proofreading either.
Here's a quotation from the Web site:
"Come enjoy La Republica's famous Presidente beer, Brugal's rum or another selection off of extensive bar menu while feeling the sirene breezes flowing from the beautiful Atlantic ocean at our outside bar, or walk up the red carpet into the elegant club on the second floor and enjoy the bars inside. Also try one of exclusive specialty drinks that is sure to have your taste buds dancing as the best DJ in the caribbean DJ Anyelo keeps your feet moving on the dance floor."
This could be rewritten as:
"This club has indoor bars and an outdoor bar to accommodate smokers. Beer and mixed drinks are available. There is recorded music for dancing. The club is located near the docks in Puerto Plata. It is easy to find as any local taxi driver will bring you to receive a 500 peso gringo finder's fee from the club in addition to the fare that you pay. This fee will eventually be added to the cost of providing any ho(stess) you take out for your personal enjoyment."
I have no need for BB or any other casas. I much prefer the free lancers. Much variety in temperment and everything else. I enjoy Sosua exactly as it is. We are all mongers. The more the better. All the guys I have met on the streets there have been cool.
QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1482020]Long Beach was always pretty lively. Sosua was lively then too, but there were a lot less mongers in Sosua. You had Blackbeards and a couple of other Blackbeard type spots and stip clubs in Costambar. Those were the days![/QUOTE]
I have no need for BB or any other casas. I much prefer the free lancers. Much variety in temperment and everything else. I enjoy Sosua exactly as it is. We are all mongers. The more the better. All the guys I have met on the streets there have been cool.Long beach was all free lancers, but I wouldn't expect you to know that. Ignorance is bliss.
I never mentioned long beach Mr pin head. Ignorance is the face you see in the mirror.
Long beach was all free lancers, but I wouldn't expect you to know that. Ignorance is bliss.
[QUOTE=OldKool; 1482058]I have no need for BB or any other casas. I much prefer the free lancers. Much variety in temperment and everything else. I enjoy Sosua exactly as it is. We are all mongers. The more the better. All the guys I have met on the streets there have been cool.
I went to BB and Field of dreams and they both seem to me to be for golfer's or that type in general people who don't want any kind of challenge just pay whatever the price is and don't worry until next month when the credit card bill come's. If any of you guy's reading have stayed at a A1 resort in the DR you know how you see every employee all the time and you always feel like they are wanting you to tip them. Well now think about staying where you have fucked all the employee's atleast 1 time how much do you feel like they will be wanting all the time every time you come out your door there they are
[QUOTE=OldKool; 1482058]I have no need for BB or any other casas. I much prefer the free lancers. Much variety in temperment and everything else. I enjoy Sosua exactly as it is. We are all mongers. The more the better. All the guys I have met on the streets there have been cool.
I went to BB and Field of dreams and they both seem to me to be for golfer's or that type in general people who don't want any kind of challenge just pay whatever the price is and don't worry until next month when the credit card bill come's. If any of you guy's reading have stayed at a A1 resort in the DR you know how you see every employee all the time and you always feel like they are wanting you to tip them. Well now think about staying where you have fucked all the employee's atleast 1 time how much do you feel like they will be wanting all the time every time you come out your door there they areRiiightt.
Look, I understand that places like FOD and BB aren't for everyone. Some people just like the pickup scene better. That's fine.
But don't go too far in belittling people who like places like BB better. All the "tough guys" who talk about liking the bars better are the same ones who post reports complaining about this girl who gave crappy service, or that girl who took the money and ran.
And don't believe in the biggest self-delusional con of all: that you are actually picking them up. They are into you for the money. Period. If you don't believe me, explain to them how you won't be paying them at all. See how they react.
Better to just enjoy punting for what it is. Leave the tough talk at home.
Excellent post Manny. I couldn't agree more. Tired of these "super-mongers" talking shit about the casas. Dudes acting like getting laid in Sosua is some kind of accomplishment. You want a gold star cause you found one chica who will have sex with you for money on Pedro Climate? That's more engaging than doing the same at a resort? The hunt huh? What hunt? Mo-fo they are hunting you!
I love Sosua. In fact, I am here right now. Nevertheless, I will also be going to FOD for the second time in a few days too. I enjoy both for the the total value to me. It doesn't have to be an either / or. Next time these dudes start in with the whole "casas are for losers" bit just ask them if they're paying for your airfare, hotel stay, and the hoes you're fucking? That should teach them to keep their lips off your vacation. Dudes always got to find some shit to compete over even if the competition is your own money and how you choose to spend it.
Puerto Plata is not overblessed with hotels, but Aparta-Hotel Lomar is probably the best for you. It is on the Malecon with ocean views and breezes, across the road from a beach, central to everything, and not far from La Sirena supermarket. Other possibility might be Portofino. There are some other hotels on the main highway or inland, like Sunshine Motel or Mountainview Hotel, but probably not as good as Lomar.Frannie, please do you have a link or contact info for Aparta-Hotel Lomar. Unable to locate it via a Google search. Bunch of sites crop up, but when you click they all take you elsewhere!
1. I am fairly new on these boards, and I do not belong to any other boards. My experience is all in 2013, and limited to 1 month each in Brazil and Peru.
2. I am planning to be in the Puerto Plata in November (for sure) for 3-4 weeks. I will be spending a few days in both BB and FOD. I will report my experience on both in Dec.
3. I am looking for chica friendly hotel / resort options in Puerto Plata and Cabarete in the $70-80 / night range, with good security. In Sosua, I think I will book Casa Valeria based on the reports here! I plan to stay no more than 4 nights at a single hotel, so I don't have chicas trying to come back! I have looked up Expedia, Travelocity, Trip Advisor, Hotels. Com, Booking. Com and other apartment renting sites (and I don't see any viable options for mne in the apartment category in Puerto Plata).
4. I have had decent success with BrazilCupid and over 90% of my fun was from Brazil Cupid. I am now over 50, but somehow I seem to be doing OK. I did not expect it.
5. I seem to be doing OK on finding friends in the DR thru LA Cupid in 10 days (about 25-30 quality contacts with cell numbers, and I have spoken with about 10) , I joined based on reports here. I have RTTF exhaustively, and I am aware that maybe 2/3 may not show, or change their minds. I never double book in a single day and I prefer to find the few with who I can spend many days even a week. I am also aware of the pitfalls of that approach, but it is what I prefer.
6. I plan to check out BB and FOD and keep Sosua as a back-up. I just prefer the quiet route, restaurants, cine, dancing, shoppinng etc. And yes, I do like shopping and buying chicas shoes, and clothes! And yes, in the end it probably adds up to more! I am not young anymore and like that approach! But who knows maybe BB, FOD and Sosua will change me! I have never experienced places like that! So, I am really looking forward to this trip. I am open to any and all suggestions, re anything and everything!
Thanks to all, in advance, for just reading my post! Any help would be much appreciated!
Haven 123
BogieMaker
10-12-13, 05:43
[QUOTE=Grub1; 1482612]Riiightt.
Look, I understand that places like FOD and BB aren't for everyone. Some people just like the pickup scene better. That's fine.
But don't go too far in belittling people who like places like BB better. All the "tough guys" who talk about liking the bars better are the same ones who post reports complaining about this girl who gave crappy service, or that girl who took the money and ran.
And don't believe in the biggest self-delusional con of all: that you are actually picking them up. They are into you for the money. Period. If you don't believe me, explain to them how you won't be paying them at all. See how they react.
Better to just enjoy punting for what it is. Leave the tough talk at home.1+
Frannie, please do you have a link or contact info for Aparta-Hotel Lomar. Unable to locate it via a Google search. Bunch of sites crop up, but when you click they all take you elsewhere!
1. I am fairly new on these boards, and I do not belong to any other boards. My experience is all in 2013, and limited to 1 month each in Brazil and Peru.
2. I am planning to be in the Puerto Plata in November (for sure) for 3-4 weeks. I will be spending a few days in both BB and FOD. I will report my experience on both in Dec.
3. I am looking for chica friendly hotel / resort options in Puerto Plata and Cabarete in the $70-80 / night range, with good security. In Sosua, I think I will book Casa Valeria based on the reports here! I plan to stay no more than 4 nights at a single hotel, so I don't have chicas trying to come back! I have looked up Expedia, Travelocity, Trip Advisor, Hotels. Com, Booking. Com and other apartment renting sites (and I don't see any viable options for mne in the apartment category in Puerto Plata).
4. I have had decent success with BrazilCupid and over 90% of my fun was from Brazil Cupid. I am now over 50, but somehow I seem to be doing OK. I did not expect it.
5. I seem to be doing OK on finding friends in the DR thru LA Cupid in 10 days (about 25-30 quality contacts with cell numbers, and I have spoken with about 10) , I joined based on reports here. I have RTTF exhaustively, and I am aware that maybe 2/3 may not show, or change their minds. I never double book in a single day and I prefer to find the few with who I can spend many days even a week. I am also aware of the pitfalls of that approach, but it is what I prefer.
6. I plan to check out BB and FOD and keep Sosua as a back-up. I just prefer the quiet route, restaurants, cine, dancing, shoppinng etc. And yes, I do like shopping and buying chicas shoes, and clothes! And yes, in the end it probably adds up to more! I am not young anymore and like that approach! But who knows maybe BB, FOD and Sosua will change me! I have never experienced places like that! So, I am really looking forward to this trip. I am open to any and all suggestions, re anything and everything!
Thanks to all, in advance, for just reading my post! Any help would be much appreciated!
Haven 123I don't think Lomar has a dedicated Web site.
Aparta Hotel Lomar.
Av General Gregorio Luperóand 8, Puerto Plata.
(809) 320-8555.
But you can just show up and ask for a room. It is located opposite a beach on the Malecon, walking distance from La Sirena supermarket, that also has good cafeteria, cell phone shops, pharmacy, etc.
I have not stayed there, but a friend of mine did, and he said it was pretty OK.
You can rent an apartment at Puerto Plata Beach club on a daily basis. Not very expensive. Nice pool. Nice location and grounds with cooling sea breezes. On site restaurant is poor.
Casa Valeria is OK, but when I was there several years ago I found the rooms a bit dark and humid and generally oppressive. Pool is OK. Has onsite restaurant that is quite good.
In Sosua you might try Romanoff, Europa, Coco, Mary Rose, Voramar for reasonable priced apartment type accomodation. Europa charges if you bring in more than one girl.
Really, unless is it Superbowl day or something, you can just arrive and check out the places before you check in, so you don't end up in some place you don't like. I know it is a hassle when you are hot and tired and have just arrived, and maybe need to pay the taxi a bit extra to look at different places, but actually it would probably be a good investment.
Things to check are whether there is air conditioning and whether it really cools, or if no a/c are there decent ceiling fans, especially over the bed. Is the bathroom clean and presentable. Is there a wifi signal in the room (if this is something important to you), is there a safe for your money and documents? I would also check if the room gets direct sun in the morning or afternoon, as this can be uncomfortable. Shaded is better.
Charles Pooter
10-12-13, 16:18
Aparta Hotel Lomar.
But you can just show up and ask for a room. It is located opposite a beach on the Malecon, walking distance from La Sirena supermarket, that also has good cafeteria, cell phone shops, pharmacy, etc.
I have not stayed there, but a friend of mine did, and he said it was pretty OK.
You can rent an apartment at Puerto Plata Beach club on a daily basis. Not very expensive. Nice pool. Nice location and grounds with cooling sea breezes. On site restaurant is poor.
Really, unless is it Superbowl day or something, you can just arrive and check out the places before you check in, so you don't end up in some place you don't like. I know it is a hassle when you are hot and tired and have just arrived, and maybe need to pay the taxi a bit extra to look at different places, but actually it would probably be a good investment.Good information from Frannie as ever.
I live four minutes walk from Lomar. I have met a few guys who have stayed there (including Brother P on this board) and none had any complaints. It is ideal if you have a non-pro girlfriend in Puerto Plata and want somewhere to take her back to that is chica friendly but not screaming "wh orehouse".
But I am not sure why anyone would otherwise choose to stay there.
The beach is just the other side of the road but I rarely see gringos walking on the beach and even fewer swimming there, because of cleanliness issues. And although La Sirena is a ten minute slow walk (and no problem now the weather is cooling) , for everywhere else you would need transport, either taxi or motoconcho. I ride motoconchos all the time. They are cheap and convenient, but many guys won't ride them because of safety concerns and I cannot blame them.
The problem with Lomar, and where I live, is that there are no bus or publico routes along the Malecon. This forces me to use more motos than I would otherwise want.
I would suggest Field of Dreams as an alternative for the Puerto Plata part of your stay. You would be more comfortable there than at Lomar and you would have gringo support and advice on hand. True it is located two miles outside the city, but apart from La Sirena you can reach everywhere else you want to go more cheaply, conveniently and safely than from Lomar, as FoD is on the publico and guagua routes and you would not have to use motos or taxis (unless you choose to do so).
If you stay at Field of Dreams before your Sosua leg, you could ride into Sosua for a dollar and spend the day walking around and checking out where you want to stay in Sosua. Everything in Sosua is within walking distance and you will get a much better idea of the hotel by visiting in person than from recommendations here (and everyone has their own favorites) plus you might get a good deal if business is slow. No problem finding a room unless it is an American Public Holiday or Superbowl. All the hotels have their upsides and downsides, otherwise all the guys would stay in the same (best) one. It depends on your needs. You might wish to avoid New Garden as it can get a bit "frat house" sometimes and you seem the quieter type.
Downside with Field of Dreams is if you want to take back a non-pro, as the stupid murals betray it as a who rehouse. But unless you have some serious advantages (nice rental car, good-looking, fluent Spanish, good Latin dancer) I don't fancy your chances of pulling a non-pro on a short trip.
If you do end up at Lomar, send me a PM and we can meet for a drink and chat on the Malecon.
Downside with Field of Dreams is if you want to take back a non-pro, as the stupid murals betray it as a who rehouse. But unless you have some serious advantages (nice rental car, good-looking, fluent Spanish, good Latin dancer) I don't fancy your chances of pulling a non-pro on a short trip.Not to mention the "Adults Only" sign outside on the highway, that might lead a few people to think that this was a retirement home for ancients who have disowned their grandchildren, but to most others says: "Here be naked women and the men who love them."
[QUOTE=Grub1; 1482612]Riiightt.
Look, I understand that places like FOD and BB aren't for everyone. Some people just like the pickup scene better. That's fine.
But don't go too far in belittling people who like places like BB better. All the "tough guys" who talk about liking the bars better are the same ones who post reports complaining about this girl who gave crappy service, or that girl who took the money and ran.
And don't believe in the biggest self-delusional con of all: that you are actually picking them up. They are into you for the money. Period. If you don't believe me, explain to them how you won't be paying them at all. See how they react.
Better to just enjoy punting for what it is. Leave the tough talk at home.Sorry Manny I was not thinking well. I never want to belittle anyone or come off as a tough guy. I have had a great time at both place's and had good experience with the sex so hell I should have not even posted that.
Thanks, Frannie for your suggestions. Much appreciated!
I will call Hotel Lomar and see if they can email me some pics.
I really need more chica friendly options in Puerto Plata. Just about 99% of the chicas from Puerto Plata or Santiago do not want to go to Sosua.
So, the chicas I am talking to on LA Cupid, Puerta Plata is where they want to be (vs. Sosua or Cabarete).
So, please can you think of any other options? How much is Hotel Lomar, BTW?
Thanks,
Haven 123
I don't think Lomar has a dedicated Web site.
Aparta Hotel Lomar.
Av General Gregorio Luperóand 8, Puerto Plata.
(809) 320-8555.
But you can just show up and ask for a room. It is located opposite a beach on the Malecon, walking distance from La Sirena supermarket, that also has good cafeteria, cell phone shops, pharmacy, etc.
I have not stayed there, but a friend of mine did, and he said it was pretty OK.
You can rent an apartment at Puerto Plata Beach club on a daily basis. Not very expensive. Nice pool. Nice location and grounds with cooling sea breezes. On site restaurant is poor.
Casa Valeria is OK, but when I was there several years ago I found the rooms a bit dark and humid and generally oppressive. Pool is OK. Has onsite restaurant that is quite good.
In Sosua you might try Romanoff, Europa, Coco, Mary Rose, Voramar for reasonable priced apartment type accomodation. Europa charges if you bring in more than one girl.
Really, unless is it Superbowl day or something, you can just arrive and check out the places before you check in, so you don't end up in some place you don't like. I know it is a hassle when you are hot and tired and have just arrived, and maybe need to pay the taxi a bit extra to look at different places, but actually it would probably be a good investment.
Things to check are whether there is air conditioning and whether it really cools, or if no a / see are there decent ceiling fans, especially over the bed. Is the bathroom clean and presentable. Is there a wifi signal in the room (if this is something important to you) , is there a safe for your money and documents? I would also check if the room gets direct sun in the morning or afternoon, as this can be uncomfortable. Shaded is better.
[QUOTE=Manny51; 1482742]Sorry Manny I was not thinking well. I never want to belittle anyone or come off as a tough guy. I have had a great time at both place's and had good experience with the sex so hell I should have not even posted that.No worries!
Charles Pooter
10-13-13, 16:15
I really need more chica friendly options in Puerto Plata. Just about 99% of the chicas from Puerto Plata or Santiago do not want to go to Sosua.I know it sounds surprising for a sizable town like Pto Pta, but there really are no decent hotels for gringos here apart from Field of Dreams. There are lots of reasonable hotels for middle-class Dominicans and travelling businessmen, but remember "middle-class" here does not mean the same as in North America or Europe. Your chicas may be comfortable in them but you won't be. And they will think you are a cheap-ass, not the high roller they are hoping to snare. Lomar is your best bet out of a poor selection. Frannie knows what he is talking about. At least it has a decent location and is used to the occasional gringo guest.
How much is Hotel Lomar, BTW?I will call in and ask if I get a few minutes free.
Your other option if you really want to please and impress a chica is to book into one of the AI hotels at Playa Dorada. However you would need to make sure your chica is a good one first and that may be difficult to ensure. I don't have a lot of confidence in your reliance on internet chicas. You do realise that 95% of them are full-time or part-time working girls? I would rather meet a chica face to face and spend a few hours in her company before committing to booking into a hotel with her.
I wish you luck, but I think you could be heading for some disappointments and wasted money.
Charles Pooter
10-13-13, 17:28
Just about 99% of the chicas from Puerto Plata or Santiago do not want to go to Sosua.
So, the chicas I am talking to on LA Cupid, Puerta Plata is where they want to be (vs. Sosua or Cabarete).They are bullshitting you.
I am not one of those guys who bang on about how women here prefer a strong man and like to be dominated. In most cases they are just trying to justify their own ignorant and misogynistic behaviour. I treat women with respect until they show that they don't deserve it.
But there are limits. Who will be paying for the hotel, the food, transport, entertainment, and by your own admission, gifts? If you let these wh_ores dictate where you are going to stay you might as well hand over your billfold and credit card because they will realize you are a pussy. If they don't want to stay in Sosua then to hell with them. It is very much a buyer's market now.
If they want to stay in Puerto Plata, it is because they think they will be staying in a (to them) luxurious holiday resort not some cheap Dominican hotel. A lot of them assume all gringos stay at Playa Dorada anyway. Now you could probably get a good deal for that as the Playa Dorada hotels are hurting badly. Walk round and it is like a ghost town. But I have heard too many sad stories about guys who booked into an AI with a chica and lived to regret it. In fact I spent some time talking to one last summer. The two girls he invited occupied his room and were living the high life while he crept about the site terrified to go back to his room and face another embarrassing scene or further demand for cash. I told him his best option was to bribe a couple of the security thugs to throw their asses out of the main gate but he was too timid.
I am not suggesting you are that weak, but never hand the initiative to the chicas and certainly not over an important and expensive matter like accommodation.
Another anecdote. I was on the beach at Sosua with friends talking to a newbie. He despised guys who used putas and said that he had met a "nice' girl on the internet and she was fucking him for free. All it cost apart from her food and drink was the US$100 he had given her for return transport from her home on the other side of the island. We told him that was four times what it cost, but there was more. When we finally saw them together we all recognised her as one of the regular Sosua putas who stayed here all the time. And of course when we added up all his outlay on her he could have two different chicas for ST and one for TLN each day and night of his stay.
One reason many of these chicas don't want to go to Sosua is that they would be immediately recognized and "outed" as fulltime putas.
That might also explain why they don't want to go to Cabarete. That is (by Dominican standards) a middle class resort with no reputation for prostitution. Any normal chica would be only to proud to spend a few days there and mix with a young and trendy set. The only reason not to go would, again, be fear of recognition by Sosua regulars spending a day there.
Thanks, Charles. Clearly, I don't know shit! Well, I guess I have some rethinking to do and reevaluate my whole plan!
They are bullshitting you.
I am not one of those guys who bang on about how women here prefer a strong man and like to be dominated. In most cases they are just trying to justify their own ignorant and misogynistic behaviour. I treat women with respect until they show that they don't deserve it.
But there are limits. Who will be paying for the hotel, the food, transport, entertainment, and by your own admission, gifts? If you let these wh_ores dictate where you are going to stay you might as well hand over your billfold and credit card because they will realize you are a pussy. If they don't want to stay in Sosua then to hell with them. It is very much a buyer's market now.
If they want to stay in Puerto Plata, it is because they think they will be staying in a (to them) luxurious holiday resort not some cheap Dominican hotel. A lot of them assume all gringos stay at Playa Dorada anyway. Now you could probably get a good deal for that as the Playa Dorada hotels are hurting badly. Walk round and it is like a ghost town. But I have heard too many sad stories about guys who booked into an AI with a chica and lived to regret it. In fact I spent some time talking to one last summer. The two girls he invited occupied his room and were living the high life while he crept about the site terrified to go back to his room and face another embarrassing scene or further demand for cash. I told him his best option was to bribe a couple of the security thugs to throw their asses out of the main gate but he was too timid.
I am not suggesting you are that weak, but never hand the initiative to the chicas and certainly not over an important and expensive matter like accommodation...
Tempoecorto
10-13-13, 20:20
One reason many of these chicas don't want to go to Sosua is that they would be immediately recognized and "outed" as fulltime putas.
That might also explain why they don't want to go to Cabarete. That is (by Dominican standards) a middle class resort with no reputation for prostitution. Any normal chica would be only to proud to spend a few days there and mix with a young and trendy set. The only reason not to go would, again, be fear of recognition by Sosua regulars spending a day there.I think Charles has laid out a very good rationale of some behaving the way they do and so I would just recount my personal experience, the latest in mid-September.
1) I have stayed at Lomar multiple times and the room, on the top floor, I think the third, facing the sea is my favorite. There is a balcony and so you can stay outside. Indeed a couple of years back, on a stormy night, I was outside along with a woman, who was somewhat scandalized but thrilled by the novelty of trying it out in the open. I might have paid $40 worth in pesos for that room. Do not recall exactly. There is nothing fancy about the room but it is roomy and clean everything. Ah no safe but I have been to many places where there are no safes. The restaurant is basic for breakfast but I have had the guy sent out to get food from their restaurant called Portofino which lies further afield. I like the place and also thanks to the proximity of la sirena, laundry etc. Are easier. I also rent a car and so transportation is not an issue. The women who came there always left pleased.
2) I chose Pto Pta because I too was under the impression that Sosua has a bad image but this trip, I went there with a girl from La Vega. A Med student (well I did not quiz her on Grey's Anatomy!). I did the mountainous road across from Santiago and had booked Hotel Coco which had access to a private spot of beach, the only reason why I chose it. This hotel is run by a Canadian woman and is obviously nice and clean but I would not want to go there if I am changing women regularly. I paid $30 / night with A / C by sending emails and asking them to do better on price.
3) The private beach was really nice and there was only a small group in the water with a 3/4 kids. The woman, surprised me in many ways in the water. Actually first time in the DR in the water with a woman so perhaps others here already have much better experience. Oh, I had to buy a swimsuit for her at the entry of Pedro Clisante. A clothing store.
4) The best thing about Sosua are the restaurants. We had a great meal at one of the Italian restaurants. The meal was late which annoyed me (as I was hungry) but quality was excellent. Frannie knows which one for we had celebrated his birthday there once. We then headed towards the bars and sat down again at the Austrian place for dessert and coffee. It was wonderful. Finally, past the hullabaloo of the various bars, there is a cigar shop, close to Rocky's. The owner chose one for me, clipped it and helped me light it. I and the woman walked back to our car, at a leisurely pace, enjoying my cigar.
5) Next day, it was a Sunday, the woman left as she had school the day after. So we went back to the Austrian place for an excellent Wiener Schnitzel. The Polish waitress was very nice and efficient. After the meal, took the woman to the Caribe bus terminal to take her back to la Vega. Being free in the late afternoon, I went for a pedicure and manicure and met the woman later for a session in the car, on the way to her place in Puerto Plata. It was kind of weird doing it inside the car at 9 at night on the Sosua-Pto Pta main road, with other vehicles screaming by but I could not find a better / quieter spot.
6) This trip, I also had plans to spend a couple of days at one of the All-Inclusives in Pto pta and I am glad I did not. The woman who came to see me in Santiago from another town about an hour and half away was very nervous so we went to the movie and ate a meal but I did not sleep with her. Had I tried the Pto Pta resorts, the money and the time would have been wasted. The young woman left the day after, untouched and very much touched by that experience. This of course is not the first time that it has happened to me. Some have developed cold feet and the best option for me has always been to let it go. It pays back very well later.
To summarize, I think Sosua is a very good option, both hotel and food wise, even when one comes armed with women. And I will try it again.
I agree completely, to each his own method of enjoyment.
Such BS talk usually comes from inexperienced simpletons.
Newbie here. I don't know if this is the right place to ask for info. If it ain't, please correct me. I'm planning to go to PP end of January (a couple of days at BB and a couple at FOD). After reading a lot of posts, I understand that requests for services should be made with the mamasans. Are there some chicas at these places that will do bbbjtcws?
Thanks
Thanks Tempoecorto! Quite helpful! Re Lomar, how was the A / C, hot water, WIFI and security please? How exactly is security set up, since I think this is a spread out condo with mutiple buildings, maybe?
I think Charles has laid out a very good rationale of some behaving the way they do and so I would just recount my personal experience, the latest in mid-September.
1) I have stayed at Lomar multiple times and the room, on the top floor, I think the third, facing the sea is my favorite. There is a balcony and so you can stay outside. Indeed a couple of years back, on a stormy night, I was outside along with a woman, who was somewhat scandalized but thrilled by the novelty of trying it out in the open. I might have paid $40 worth in pesos for that room. Do not recall exactly. There is nothing fancy about the room but it is roomy and clean everything. Ah no safe but I have been to many places where there are no safes. The restaurant is basic for breakfast but I have had the guy sent out to get food from their restaurant called Portofino which lies further afield. I like the place and also thanks to the proximity of la sirena, laundry etc. Are easier. I also rent a car and so transportation is not an issue. The women who came there always left pleased.
To summarize, I think Sosua is a very good option, both hotel and food wise, even when one comes armed with women. And I will try it again.
Charles Pooter
10-14-13, 14:23
Thanks, Charles. Clearly, I don't know shit! Well, I guess I have some rethinking to do and reevaluate my whole plan!Thanks. Don't let me "bully" you. From your posts it appears you have plenty of experience in other locations. I am just playing Devil's advocate. And I was exaggerating to make a point. If I have prompted a pause and rethink that is good, but in the end you have to follow your own instincts. Generally better to return home thinking "I shouldn't have done that" than "I wish I had done that" because at least the first way you have learned a lesson for next time.
Good post from Tempoecorto. He is obviously satisfied with Lomar otherwise he wouldn't keep returning there. But note that he rents a car. That overcomes my main objection that it is away from the transport routes.
Thanks, Charles. Clearly, I don't know shit! Well, I guess I have some rethinking to do and reevaluate my whole plan!I would agree with Charles Pooter. If they are VERY respectable, then they or their family MIGHT consider Sosua a bit louche, but Cabarete? Definitely not. I agree that they are angling to go to an all-inclusive resort with unlimited drinks and a casino, not a "chica-friendly" commercial hotel in Puerto Plata.
If you are getting these chicas from Web sites like Dominican Cupid, Dominican Puta, or whatever they are called, then rest assured that these are not church-going girls who would be shocked at the sights of Sosua. If they say they don't want to go to Sosua or Cabarete, it is probably because they are known to every motoconcho driver, pimp, and barman in town, or they have previously been warned off by the cops.
If you want to meet these more "decent" girls, then you need to come over here and personally seduce them, which takes a bit more time and effort. It is not at all impossible, though, if that is what you really want.
On the other hand if you want hookers who are lookers, a lot of preliminary work is not needed. It is just a matter of fly and fuck.
Remember, you are thinking sex, but they are always thinking money or advancement. If they enjoy the sex that is an obvious bonus, but it is never the starting point for them. Never forget that.
4) The best thing about Sosua are the restaurants. We had a great meal at one of the Italian restaurants. The meal was late which annoyed me (as I was hungry) but quality was excellent. Frannie knows which one for we had celebrated his birthday there once.Your memory is better than mine. I remember celebrating my birthday about 10 years ago at Portofino Restaurant in Puerto Plata over pizza with half a dozen little children singing Happy Birthday in Spanish to me, and another time on the roof garden of the Perla de Sosua apartments in a power cut with music from a laptop and lighting from birthday cake candles, but I don't remember the one you mentioned!
It must have been at Elefante Rosso, the pink elephant, right there on Pedro Clissante, because that Italian guy who lives at Romanoff has friends there.
Yes, I think Sosua is a pretty good place for restaurants, especially if you come from somewhere like Florida, where all you can find is Chilis, Ruby Tuesdays, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, and Kentucky Fried Chicken. At least most of the Sosua restaurants are run by their owners and present fresh food, not stuff pre-prepared and ladled out of food-service packs.
Hahaha, Frannie, fun comment about restaurants in Florida and what you think of culinary experiences of Floridians! Expect some interesting blow back my man! Good Luck with that, and I have never lived in Florida! I am laughing my tail off here!
I suppose British food is super tasty, old chap.
You are both funny and brave.
Haven 123
Your memory is better than mine. I remember celebrating my birthday about 10 years ago at Portofino Restaurant in Puerto Plata over pizza with half a dozen little children singing Happy Birthday in Spanish to me, and another time on the roof garden of the Perla de Sosua apartments in a power cut with music from a laptop and lighting from birthday cake candles, but I don't remember the one you mentioned!
It must have been at Elefante Rosso, the pink elephant, right there on Pedro Clissante, because that Italian guy who lives at Romanoff has friends there.
Yes, I think Sosua is a pretty good place for restaurants, especially if you come from somewhere like Florida, where all you can find is Chilis, Ruby Tuesdays, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, and Kentucky Fried Chicken. At least most of the Sosua restaurants are run by their owners and present fresh food, not stuff pre-prepared and ladled out of food-service packs.
Tempoecorto
10-14-13, 20:20
Thanks Tempoecorto! Quite helpful! Re Lomar, how was the A / C, hot water, WIFI and security please? How exactly is security set up, since I think this is a spread out condo with mutiple buildings, maybe?No! It is just one building facing the sea. The A / C was fine but I remember keeping the windows open up on the third floor and with the nice breeze, did not need A / C. Hot water was normal (I paid the women cleaning for extra towels) but not wifi. I often wound up coming down to the entry (and used to chat with a lovely Spaniard there who would get to know a woman friend of the woman I was there with) , which is where the tiny restaurant is and wifi was good there. There is no need for security. No body checks nothing so if you have a problem that is walking with you, that is entirely your problem and so make sure you vet her / them well.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g147290-d286810-Reviews-Aparta_Hotel_Lomar-Puerto_Plata_Puerto_Plata_Province_Dominican_Republic.html
Hahaha, Frannie, fun comment about restaurants in Florida and what you think of culinary experiences of Floridians! Expect some interesting blow back my man! Good Luck with that, and I have never lived in Florida! I am luaghing my tail off here!
I suppose British food is super tasty, old chap.
You are both funny and brave.
Haven 123Not sure I totally get your point. Just saying that Sosua has quite a good selection of restaurants offering various cuisines and main dishes for less than $10 US, and excellent breakfasts for $5 US or less. At Cafe Tropical you can get a full fresh cooked lunch for only $5 US.
Florida is one of the jumping off points for flights to the DR, so a reasonable comparator. Having lived in Florida myself and still making occasional trips there, I know it is hard to find a good meal at a reasonable price when on the road there due to the prevalence of corporate restaurants.
It is about 12 years since I last visited the UK. The quality of restaurant and pub food there is decidedly mixed, but there seems to be widespread interest in improving quality as evidenced by the popularity of TV shows hosted by the likes of Gordon Ramsay or Jamie Oliver and the general emphasis on locally-sourced provisions, fresh ingredients, etc. If you Google recipes for common dishes, it is noticeable how often the first results shown will be from UK Web sites.
Are there some chicas at these places that will do bbbjtcws?Probably, if they can figure out what the acronym means they will give it a try.
Tempoecorto
10-14-13, 20:33
Your memory is better than mine. I remember celebrating my birthday about 10 years ago at Portofino Restaurant in Puerto Plata over pizza with half a dozen little children singing Happy Birthday in Spanish to me, and another time on the roof garden of the Perla de Sosua apartments in a power cut with music from a laptop and lighting from birthday cake candles, but I don't remember the one you mentioned!
It must have been at Elefante Rosso, the pink elephant, right there on Pedro Clissante, because that Italian guy who lives at Romanoff has friends there.
Yes, I think Sosua is a pretty good place for restaurants, especially if you come from somewhere like Florida, where all you can find is Chilis, Ruby Tuesdays, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, and Kentucky Fried Chicken. At least most of the Sosua restaurants are run by their owners and present fresh food, not stuff pre-prepared and ladled out of food-service packs.Yes, that is the restaurant and you, I and one of the two women (forget her name) from Romanoff was with us. 2011. I really abhor the re-heated food that you speak of, one reason why I found Sosua excellent but it is also the variety within one block. There are now two Italian restaurants on the main street (I met the other restaurant owner sipping my genuine cappucino at Bologna) , the Austrian, the German, the Brit. And given that they are all run by folks from the old country, the food really tastes genuine and superb. On that note, next to Hotel Coco, there is a place that serves roasted chicken and other stuff. The owner there too is an Italian. Alberto, has been living in the DR for 30 odd years. So overall, Sosua is a place for the epicureans, including those that follow Bacchus and of course, Venus!
Charles Pooter
10-14-13, 22:10
How much is Hotel Lomar, BTW?
Re Lomar, how was the A / C, hot water, WIFI and security please? How exactly is security set up, since I think this is a spread out condo with mutiple buildings, maybe?I have just trudged all the way to the Lomar to get some of these questions answered. A sick, elderly man toils through the blazing afternoon sun in the service of a fellow monger, shaving at least a week off his lifespan, only to return to his laptop and find smartass insinuations about British food. Fuckin' Americans! I don't know why I bother.
Room with double bed 1400 pesos (US$33) per night. No reduction for less than a week. Single room 1100 pesos in case she wants to book in her chulo as well. Tempoecorto's favourite room up top with sea view also 1400 in case you want to replicate his perverted activities.
Aircon in all rooms, no extra. Hot water 24 hours. Shower and inodoro in all rooms. TV in all rooms. Wifi in lobby only, not in rooms. No safes in rooms but you can use the manager's safe in his office.
This being the DR you can probably insert "allegedly" or "on a good day" into some of these answers.
They confirm Tempoecorto's hint that it is under the same management as Portofino. I have stayed at Portofino and it was only barely acceptable. I hope and believe this place is a bit better, but don't expect too much for this price, especially as you are paying a premium for the location on the Malecon.
The receptionist (Elaine) is classy, but probably the owner's girlfriend.
809 320 8555.
By the way, there is no such thing as "British" food, except in the sense of convenience food and chain restaurants which serve the same crap all over the "civilised" world.
There is Scottish food (exclusively porridge and haggis).
There is Irish food (exclusively potatoes, and mutton stew once a week if anyone in the family is working).
There is Welsh food (exclusively Welsh rarebit and leek soup) although most Welsh people seem to live off French frieds and packet chips. They are the only nationality who are more overweight and unfit than Americans according to recent surveys.
Then there is English food, which is enormously varied according to the region and ethnicity of the cooks, but has improved massively starting in the 1960s and the best of which is cutting edge as witnessed by the popularity of English culinary TV programs abroad and the number of award-winning chefs and restaurants.
May you choke on your next grease-sodden, carcinogenic additive permeated American cowburger!
Probably, if they can figure out what the acronym means they will give it a try.Yeah, I am also wondering what does it stand for?
Charles Pooter
10-14-13, 22:31
Probably, if they can figure out what the acronym means they will give it a try.BareBack Blow Job To Completion With Swallow.
Where have you been all your life, Frannie? A monastery? (On second thoughts they may be familiar with this acronym in many monasteries too, unless they say it in Latin).
Manizales911
10-14-13, 23:18
Are there some chicas at these places that will do bbbjtcws?
ThanksYou were in good shape until the last two letters Johny, that might be tough to find. I have stayed at BB's a few times and FOD many times and have found BBJTC is easy to find but WS only once. I am sure the mamasan at BB's will hook you up with a girl that will do it, FOD doesn't have a mamasan per se, one of the owners Pedro is in charge of the girls pretty much, he might get a chuckle if you ask him. I think his daughter is supposed to help out with the girls but I never see her do a damn thing other than sit around. Niko and Jamie are two cool dudes, I would ask them, both tend bar there but Jamie is also part owner, they would be the guys to ask as they relate to the girls more than Pedro does, he's too busy.
Charles Pooter
10-15-13, 01:10
FOD doesn't have a mamasan per se.What happened to Maria, for many years masajista at Blackbeards and later at FoD? I thought she was mamasan at the latter place for a spell. Is she still there? In masajista capacity only?
Manizales911
10-15-13, 01:27
What happened to Maria, for many years masajista at Blackbeards and later at FoD? I thought she was mamasan at the latter place for a spell. Is she still there? In masajista capacity only?I saw her come through looking for massage clients on my trip in June and again in September but that was it.
What happened to Maria, for many years masajista at Blackbeards and later at FoD? I thought she was mamasan at the latter place for a spell. Is she still there? In masajista capacity only?She must be well into her 40's by now. I fucked her in a massage parlour in Sosua several years ago, but didn't think she was all that good at massage. Actually she was on top, so perhaps I should say she fucked me. Pleasant enough lady, but haven't seen her for a few years now.
I am Fluent in Spanish and I am from Panama so I do not have much of an accent. I am moving from the the United States to the Dominican Republic in Santiago. I am looking for some thing safe and reasonable. Please help any suggestions or websites. I have tried craigslist, but there is nothing like someone who has been living there.
Please help!
Charles Pooter
10-15-13, 03:07
I am moving from the the United States to the Dominican Republic in Santiago. Please help!Here is some help:
Post in the Santiago section, not the Puerto Plata one!
Husker Dude
10-15-13, 03:14
What happened to Maria, for many years masajista at Blackbeards and later at FoD? I thought she was mamasan at the latter place for a spell. Is she still there? In masajista capacity only?Maria is at FOD and does massage only for $20 for an hour. I had a couple massages from her mid-Sept at FOD and they were pretty good.
Thanks Mani, very helpful.
You were in good shape until the last two letters Johny, that might be tough to find. I have stayed at BB's a few times and FOD many times and have found BBJTC is easy to find but WS only once. I am sure the mamasan at BB's will hook you up with a girl that will do it, FOD doesn't have a mamasan per se, one of the owners Pedro is in charge of the girls pretty much, he might get a chuckle if you ask him. I think his daughter is supposed to help out with the girls but I never see her do a damn thing other than sit around. Niko and Jamie are two cool dudes, I would ask them, both tend bar there but Jamie is also part owner, they would be the guys to ask as they relate to the girls more than Pedro does, he's too busy.
Charles. 1. Thanks for everything 2. You are too frickin funny! I am not your typical American, having spent a good 20 years, living out a suitcase, running around the globe for work. So, I was just in the mood for some playful fun! So, please take it in that context and spirit. I do like Brits, okay, English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish with the last two being a hoot in my life experiences. And, here I am speaking about blokes, professional compadres, hanging out a pub etc.
Thanks so much for all your work, if I had only known no Wifi in the rooms, I would have stopped right there. So, again, my apologies. And I owe you one for that. I can't do much about having shaved a week off your life, but maybe you can do some TM or something and get it back! Haha!
Anyway, I love Tex Mex, Italian, Thai, BBQ, Burgers and the typical junk fare. And a good breakfast! So, I've always had good breakfasts in the UK, FWIW! Haha, I can see a missive or missile headed my way, pronto!
Anyway, cheers old chap! Thanks for everything! Have a Guiness or whatever the options are in POP on me.
Haven 123
I have just trudged all the way to the Lomar to get some of these questions answered. A sick, elderly man toils through the blazing afternoon sun in the service of a fellow monger, shaving at least a week off his lifespan, only to return to his laptop and find smartass insinuations about British food. Fuckin' Americans! I don't know why I bother.
Room with double bed 1400 pesos (US$33) per night. No reduction for less than a week. Single room 1100 pesos in case she wants to book in her chulo as well. Tempoecorto's favourite room up top with sea view also 1400 in case you want to replicate his perverted activities.
Aircon in all rooms, no extra. Hot water 24 hours. Shower and inodoro in all rooms. TV in all rooms. Wifi in lobby only, not in rooms. No safes in rooms but you can use the manager's safe in his office.
This being the DR you can probably insert "allegedly" or "on a good day" into some of these answers.
They confirm Tempoecorto's hint that it is under the same management as Portofino. I have stayed at Portofino and it was only barely acceptable. I hope and believe this place is a bit better, but don't expect too much for this price, especially as you are paying a premium for the location on the Malecon.
The receptionist (Elaine) is classy, but probably the owner's girlfriend.
809 320 8555.
By the way, there is no such thing as "British" food, except in the sense of convenience food and chain restaurants which serve the same crap all over the "civilised" world.
There is Scottish food (exclusively porridge and haggis)...
BareBack Blow Job To Completion With Swallow.
Where have you been all your life, Frannie? A monastery? (On second thoughts they may be familiar with this acronym in many monasteries too, unless they say it in Latin).I thought that was CIM. In my monastery we only used the Latin names such as fellatio ad nauseam.
I am Fluent in Spanish and I am from Panama so I do not have much of an accent. I am moving from the the United States to the Dominican Republic in Santiago. I am looking for some thing safe and reasonable. Please help any suggestions or websites. I have tried craigslist, but there is nothing like someone who has been living there. Please help!
You might try doing some reading on DR1. Check the santiago section. I'm sure Youll get some helpful info from expats.
Riky Rapido
10-15-13, 19:23
You might try doing some reading on DR1. Check the santiago section. I'm sure Youll get some helpful info from expats.Why Santiago? Lots of pussy yes, but pussy is everywhere, I live in Puerto Plata, have an apartment on the malecon, in sight of the beaches, and this is paradise. Then there is Sosua, Cabarette, and other towns along the north coast. Much more pleasant up north. Take my word for it.
Super funny! Wonder which monastery that was. Pray tell us?
I thought that was CIM. In my monastery we only used the Latin names such as fellatio ad nauseam.
Charles Pooter
10-15-13, 23:11
That's great to know about FOD being near the Playa Doradas resort.
The service road through the Playa Dorada complex is horseshoe shaped. One leg runs from the main (guests) entrance at the highway then curves right past the shopping mall and activities centre. It keeps going, curves right again and rejoins the highway at the (employees) Services Entrance. Field of Dreams is right opposite that Services Entrance on the other side of the main road and down a 100 metre drive.
How far you have to walk depends on where your hotel is located on the complex, anywhere from 30 minutes to 10 minutes. But don't try to get to Field of Dreams via the main guests gate or you will have a hot and dusty half mile walk down an unshaded highway. The way via the Services Entrance is very pleasant and shaded. And safer than the main road.
The guy who founded Field of Dreams was the godfather of mongering on the North Coast. He built it hoping to cash in on guys sneaking away from their wives and families at Playa Dorada for a quickie, and also affluent golfing guys staying at the hotels. He did get some of that trade but nowhere near enough to run at a decent profit. Most of his custom came via the monger boards like this one and most mongers are careful spenders.
ThunderStar
10-15-13, 23:18
Charles. 1. Thanks for everything 2. You are too frickin funny! I am not your typical American, having spent a good 20 years, living out a suitcase, running around the globe for work. So, I was just in the mood for some playful fun! So, please take it in that context and spirit. I do like Brits, okay, English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish with the last two being a hoot in my life experiences. And, here I am speaking about blokes, professional compadres, hanging out a pub etc.
Thanks so much for all your work, if I had only known no Wifi in the rooms, I would have stopped right there. So, again, my apologies. And I owe you one for that. I can't do much about having shaved a week off your life, but maybe you can do some TM or something and get it back! Haha!
Anyway, I love Tex Mex, Italian, Thai, BBQ, Burgers and the typical junk fare. And a good breakfast! So, I've always had good breakfasts in the UK, FWIW! Haha, I can see a missive or missile headed my way, pronto!
Anyway, cheers old chap! Thanks for everything! Have a Guiness or whatever the options are in POP on me.
Haven 123Well well well. 2. You just wait till you meet him! He is even funnier then!
As Charles is a vegetarian. He can't help you on "proper" food too much!
Tex Mex. In Cab there is a lovely Tex Mex place called Gorditos. Just as you enter Cab on the left at a plaza called "Ocean Dream". Great food at reasonable value. Possibly one of the busiest restaurants in the area.
For Italian. In Sosua. There is a great Italian on PC. Can't remember the name. But its just to the left of the Britiannia Bar.
Again. Great food, great owner and at great value!
Enjoy!
Charles Pooter
10-15-13, 23:20
Why Santiago?I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that he was going to Santiago for work. If not, I'm baffled too.
You might try doing some reading on DR1. Check the Santiago section. I'm sure you'll get some helpful info from expats.
Good advice, but be discreet about the sex aspect.
Super funny! Wonder which monastery that was. Pray tell us?I can't reveal the name, but it was a Dominican order. Our favorite acronym was WWJD (and the answer was usually "grin and bear it" or "turn the other cheek".)
El Lobo Solo
10-17-13, 16:25
Just got home from my first stay at BBs. Totally what I was hoping for and could not be more satisfied.
The women were all very pleasant, the youngest at 19 and the oldest at 26.
I'm not the sexual athlete that some are, but was able to spend all of my budget and then some. Prices are as quoted elsewhere: 1,600 ST and 3,000 TLN. 500 for a half hour in the Jacuzzi. Note that that is always per woman. So if you are like some who always had two women, you can double the burn rate. Food prices in the hotel are reasonable, the food was very agreeable for me. My room was always clean, everything worked, the wifi was superior to many places I've stayed.
If anyone has the slightest urge to experience the harem style life, I highly recommend you get yourself over to BBs. I haven't stayed at any of the other AI type resorts, so I can't give a comparison between them and BBs. But I have visited 72 countries with the express goal of trying P4P in each country, and honestly, this has to be my favorite so far. The atmosphere is just so friendly, you don't have to worry one second about getting robbed or cheated, etc. Okay, it's too damn easy for some guys, and probably too expensive for others, but if you are on a daily budget of about $200 for hotel, food, and women, you could essential live there the rest of your life.
I don't drink much, so if you want to add a lot of alcohol that is going to cost you more. And if you want two women twice or three times a day, I hope you can do the math.
BTW, there were several guys who did exactly that and it was great fun to be around them.
I have visited more than several of the FKKs in Germany, and the only possible way that BBs experience could be "improved" for me would be to have the women running around naked most of the time. But that is too much to think about in a catholic country. Besides, they do change their costumes at least once a day, and that makes it fun in a different way.
My next trip is to Santo Domingo in November, but I am having a hard time justifying denying myself another go at BBs. Okay I'm an official fanboy so you don't have to flame me, I know I'm guilty but I don't care. I drank the coolaid.
I am Fluent in Spanish and I am from Panama so I do not have much of an accent. I am moving from the the United States to the Dominican Republic in Santiago. I am looking for some thing safe and reasonable. Please help any suggestions or websites. I have tried craigslist, but there is nothing like someone who has been living there. Please help!Try for example:
www.SuperCasas.com.do
Buena suerte
Tempoecorto
10-17-13, 23:32
Just got home from my first stay at BBs. Totally what I was hoping for and could not be more satisfied.
But I have visited 72 countries with the express goal of trying P4P in each country, and honestly, this has to be my favorite so far. T.
I have visited more than several of the FKKs in Germany, and the only possible way that BBs experience could be "improved" for me would be to have the women running around naked most of the time.You shitting us. 72 countries trying it out? I am green with envy. LOL.
I enjoy FKKs quite a bit. And I do think that some of their experiences are unique that cannot be had in the DR (at least not with the regular women. Cannot speak of professionals in Sosua). I had sex inside kino with whole bunch of others present watching movie. One Russian woman was too shy to do that. She wanted me to go to a private place. A Romanian woman who spoke fluent Italian with me gave me a great fellatio in some other fkk. Also, in my personal experience the visitor quality there is very good so it was nice chatting with people from all over. In any case, I cannot imagine having naked women running around can be that stimulating after the first blush. I have been to nudist beaches. And they are. Meh! I would much rather undress a woman in burkha. That would be erotic. Hahaha.
I am sure I am going to regret this. But what the heck?
What the heck is WWJD? Could you add it to the list of abbreviations in the forum please?
I can't reveal the name, but it was a Dominican order. Our favorite acronym was WWJD (and the answer was usually "grin and bear it" or "turn the other cheek".)
I am sure I am going to regret this. But what the heck?
What the heck is WWJD? Could you add it to the list of abbreviations in the forum please?Obviously not on your radar. Turning the other cheek is a well known phrase from the King James Bible, and the acronym? What would Jesus do?
Tempoecorto
10-18-13, 04:28
Obviously not on your radar. Turning the other cheek is a well known phrase from the King James Bible, and the acronym? What would Jesus do?Not to be a pedant, but I did not think WWJD or the other unpronounce-able stuff mentioned earlier, fall under the category of "acronym". Those are mere abbreviations, I was told! LOL.
El Lobo Solo
10-18-13, 04:47
I enjoy FKKs quite a bit. And I do think that some of their experiences are unique that cannot be had in the DR (at least not with the regular women. Cannot speak of professionals in Sosua). I had sex inside kino with whole bunch of others present watching movie. One Russian woman was too shy to do that. She wanted me to go to a private place. A Romanian woman who spoke fluent Italian with me gave me a great fellatio in some other fkk. Also, in my personal experience the visitor quality there is very good so it was nice chatting with people from all over. In any case, I cannot imagine having naked women running around can be that stimulating after the first blush. I have been to nudist beaches. And they are. Meh! I would much rather undress a woman in burkha. That would be erotic. Hahaha.I'm not that kinky but there sure are some kinky Germans! LOL I'm only half German so while I can watch others, it just doesn't seem to work for me to be watched. But there is something totally exciting about getting two women who are totally naked stroking your cock in the public areas. But for me, only in the darker areas, not out in the broad daylight.
The idea of having all of those sweet Dominicanans walking around with only a hat and high heels on is a great mental picture though.
Thanks. Familiar with both. Alas my brain cells' synapses did not make the connection in this context.
Obviously not on your radar. Turning the other cheek is a well known phrase from the King James Bible, and the acronym? What would Jesus do?
I'm not that kinky but there sure are some kinky Germans! LOL I'm only half German so while I can watch others, it just doesn't seem to work for me to be watched. But there is something totally exciting about getting two women who are totally naked stroking your cock in the public areas. But for me, only in the darker areas, not out in the broad daylight.
The idea of having all of those sweet Dominicanans walking around with only a hat and high heels on is a great mental picture though.When I was younger, I had no problem participating in group sex, but now that I am older. 58, I seem to have become a bit shy, I wonder, why is that?
Tempoecorto
10-18-13, 15:08
I'm not that kinky but there sure are some kinky Germans! LOL
The idea of having all of those sweet Dominicanans walking around with only a hat and high heels on is a great mental picture though.Yeah, I find Germany to be a particulary "live and let live" place which I really appreciate. Have never been to Blackbeard or as you had said a "harem" but I guess I see your point of hat and high heels. LOL. Seriously though, I would like to get close to a burkha clad. In the burkha land. No idea how though. Dubai just does not cut it.
Just got home from my first stay at BBs. Totally what I was hoping for and could not be more satisfied.
The women were all very pleasant, the youngest at 19 and the oldest at 26.
I have visited more than several of the FKKs in Germany, and the only possible way that BBs experience could be "improved" for me would be to have the women running around naked most of the time. But that is too much to think about in a catholic country. Besides, they do change their costumes at least once a day, and that makes it fun in a different way.
My next trip is to Santo Domingo in November, but I am having a hard time justifying denying myself another go at BBs. Okay I'm an official fanboy so you don't have to flame me, I know I'm guilty but I don't care. I drank the coolaid.If I could ask, what were your favorite countries? In terms of P4P, and also overall?
Thanks!
Charles Pooter
10-18-13, 21:56
Not to be a pedant, but I did not think WWJD or the other unpronounce-able stuff mentioned earlier, fall under the category of "acronym". Those are mere abbreviations, I was told! LOL.You were told wrongly. They are indeed acronyms. A combination of initial letters combined into one new "word" or letter-group to form the name of something (usually a new entity that hasn't had a name before). They do not have to form an easily "pronounceable" word like "NATO" or "DATY"."WWJD" qualifies too.
Abbreviations are words with one or more letters lopped off the end. Where more than one word is involved they should retain the word spaces between otherwise they would merge with acronyms.
Words shortened by removing one or more letters from the middle are not abbreviations. They are contractions and should not have a full point at the end, thus:
Road = "Rd"
but
Avenue = "Ave."
"St" for "Street" is a controversial one. Is it an abbreviation or a contraction? Duels have been fought over that question.
El Lobo Solo
10-19-13, 04:13
If I could ask, what were your favorite countries? In terms of P4P, and also overall?
Thanks!First off. Although my goal was always to find P4P, I only succeeded in about half of my visits. It's hard to get a professional woman in a place like San Marino, for example. Having said that, my top destination has been Peru for about five years. Peru is a big country (almost four times the size of California just to give you a comparison) and has a wide range of climates, terrain, and different types of people. The dollar isn't what it was, but it still goes a good distance. The food is totally great if like me you like fresh fruits. The people are usually pretty happy, and are consistently friendly except for the occasional jerk.
The women of Peru range from indigenous Amazon to Andean mountain to a (in my eye) very distinctive mix of all the above with the Spanish and occasional Asian influence. They don't suit a lot of guys, especially once they start getting about 40 years old because they kind of turn into chunks if they don't really watch it. But in the cities there are some stunning beauties. I've been all over Peru, to a lot of places that never see gringos. That's where it is most interesting for me.
Spain is my second favorite, and I have visited there four times for extended trips. The country, like Peru, has a tremendous variety of places, and the people while initially reserved, will warm up to you quickly if you make the attempt. The food in Spain is also pretty darn good, and prices are generally more reasonable than in northern Europe or even Italy. The professional scene in Spain is quite relaxed, and I have repeated with women several times in different cities with great results. I guess it's because of my growing ability to speak Spanish that these countries are my favorites.
I really love the Latin American destinations. I've been successful in every country that speaks Spanish in South and Central America, including two trips to Rio. But although that was a great scene, it was just too dangerous to really feel comfortable so I haven't been back for about five years.
After that, I would say maybe Germany (because of the FKKs). The problem for me in Germany is that often times the professional women are very mechanical. And I found myself generally gravitating to the Latinas working there instead of the European women. I also really enjoyed Warsaw. There you can actually find Polish women in the casas, so it is more authentic.
I have never been to Asia, but I want to go. I read the reports and try to get it together to go, but then I think about how much fun it is to be able to converse with the Spanish speaking women, and think it would be too much work for this old guy to communicate, so I just book another trip to visit latinas. Right now I'm really enjoying the DR. I came to the DR in 2006 or 7 (Santiago and Sosua) , and enjoyed it. But at the time I was not repeating countries, trying to widen my horizons. I am comparing the DR to Peru with the intention of making a fairly big commitment (as in relocating) to one of these countries maybe next year.
Duels have been fought over that question.Geez I hope no one got hurt.
Tempoecorto
10-19-13, 14:28
First off. Although my goal was always to find P4P, I only succeeded in about half of my visits. It's hard to get a professional woman in a place like San Marino, for example. Having said that, my top destination has been Peru for about five years.Hello Lupo Solitario, enjoyed reading your reflections. Peru will have to enter my plan after reading your notes. I agree that Spain and Germany are good locations for p4p. The latter to me primarily because of the laissez-faire attitude. Italy used to be ok (P4p) in small towns some twenty years back when I lived there. Would never touch the big city clubs with $300 champagne stupidities.
I have lived and traveled extensively in Asia / SE Asia. My favorite was Indonesia but taking cue from your thoughts, I think, I am enjoying the Latina thing much more. Language is a strong and primary incentive, as in your case. Barring Singapore, in Asia, you rarely can get women to speak in intelligible English. And understandably (my Philippines experience, not being connected to US Defense is limited) and just like you, being able to chat with people at large, in a Spanish speaking country has contributed enormously to the enjoyment. The physiognomy is second. Asian women are often petite and I love women with large breasts. Finally, a friendlier attitude of women to old gizzards like me, unthinkable in most first world places, lamentably and so in Latin locations, it is indeed feasible to minimize p4p experience which adds substantially to my enjoyment.
P. S. Funny to read about San Marino (as an independent state which it is) and women. One has much better chances on the beaches of Rimini / Riccione and I am sure you knew it.
Tempoecorto
10-19-13, 14:38
You were told wrongly. They are indeed acronyms. A combination of initial letters combined into one new "word" or letter-group to form the name of something (usually a new entity that hasn't had a name before). They do not have to form an easily "pronounceable" word like "NATO" or "DATY"."WWJD" qualifies too.
"St" for "Street" is a controversial one. Is it an abbreviation or a contraction? Duels have been fought over that question.Thanks for that. I was under the impression that only when you can form an easily pronounce-able word, would it be called an acronym as in TIP (to insure promptness) or LASER (Light amplified by stimulated emission of radiation). The rest as in IEEE or in WWJD, are abbreviations. I stand corrected.
Charles Pooter
10-19-13, 17:48
Geez I hope no one got hurt.One grammarian was wounded in the semi-colon.
Charles Pooter
10-19-13, 17:50
. my top destination has been Peru for about five years.Thanks for your post. If I knew then what I know now, I would have emigrated to Peru or maybe Ecuador, rather than the DR.
Not too many haitianas there, though!
Thanks for your post. If I knew then what I know now, I would have emigrated to Peru or maybe Ecuador, rather than the DR.
Not too many haitianas there, though!Hi Charles, where in Peru? Lima? And why? Thank you.
Radpoker
El Lobo Solo
10-19-13, 21:08
Thanks for your post. If I knew then what I know now, I would have emigrated to Peru or maybe Ecuador, rather than the DR.
Not too many haitianas there, though!You would choose Peru over the DR knowing what you know now?
I was thinking that being a white guy in the DR would be my biggest issue. I mean I stand out in Peru too, but nothing like I do in the DR. It makes me nervous about when I get too old to defend myself and being such an obvious gringo. No matter if I was in the country for ten years, I just feel like I would be too obviously an extranjero.
In Peru there are areas where my complexion is not that far from the locals' so I feel like with the proper attire I would gradually almost fit in.
But I too sure do love the women in the DR right now!
You would choose Peru over the DR knowing what you know now?
I was thinking that being a white guy in the DR would be my biggest issue. I mean I stand out in Peru too, but nothing like I do in the DR. It makes me nervous about when I get too old to defend myself and being such an obvious gringo. No matter if I was in the country for ten years, I just feel like I would be too obviously an extranjero.
In Peru there are areas where my complexion is not that far from the locals' so I feel like with the proper attire I would gradually almost fit in.
But I too sure do love the women in the DR right now!You don't stand out in the DR, because there are lots of white people, for example Russians, and if your complexion is similar to people in Peru, then you can certainly blend in in the DR, especially if you speak the language and wear the same kind of clothes. In the DR the tourists who stand out the most obviously as tourists are often not white at all.
If anything, what would make you stand out is affluence. If you drive a luxury SUV, shop at Pricemart, and live in a gated community, sure you will stand out from the rabble in the DR or Haiti, but that is the same in the USA or other developed countries.
As far as defending yourself, well the same goes for all the elderly Dominican people and the little children. It is not the Wild West and you are not the Lone Ranger. If you are thinking about home invasions or threats by gangsters, the best policy is to surrender and hope to live another day. Upscale housing developments and condos in the DR do have armed guards present, especially at night. Walking the streets is pretty safe and you rarely hear about street muggings and robberies except in Santo Domingo.
Thanks for that. I was under the impression that only when you can form an easily pronounce-able word, would it be called an acronym as in TIP (to insure promptness) or LASER (Light amplified by stimulated emission of radiation). The rest as in IEEE or in WWJD, are abbreviations. I stand corrected.I think you are partly right in that an acronym is a pronounceable word formed from the initial letters of something. However eff-bee-eye is a kind of word, and widely understood, even though the pronunciation is formed from the sounds of the letters. Likewise "double you double you jay dee" or "double you double you double you".
See also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjobdArtiA
El Lobo Solo
10-20-13, 13:33
You don't stand out in the DR, because there are lots of white people, for example Russians, and if your complexion is similar to people in Peru, then you can certainly blend in in the DR, especially if you speak the language and wear the same kind of clothes. In the DR the tourists who stand out the most obviously as tourists are often not white at all.
If anything, what would make you stand out is affluence. If you drive a luxury SUV, shop at Pricemart, and live in a gated community, sure you will stand out from the rabble in the DR or Haiti, but that is the same in the USA or other developed countries.
As far as defending yourself, well the same goes for all the elderly Dominican people and the little children. It is not the Wild West and you are not the Lone Ranger. If you are thinking about home invasions or threats by gangsters, the best policy is to surrender and hope to live another day. Upscale housing developments and condos in the DR do have armed guards present, especially at night. Walking the streets is pretty safe and you rarely hear about street muggings and robberies except in Santo Domingo.I have two more trips scheduled to the DR over the next two months to try to make up my mind. Then it's back to Peru for another comparison. BTW, I am often mistaken for a German tourist in Peru. But there are more people with my physique in Lima than you might think, who are third or fourth generation Peruvians.
I am not combative. My comment about defending myself was for when I'll be walking with a walker. In some places in the USA that is asking for trouble, and I'm sure that's just as true in the DR. What I don't want to do is wind up a target everywhere I go when I get a few years older.
Gated communities don't appeal to me anywhere, for a lot of reasons. I have been staying occasionally in one of the poorest areas of Lima for about three years with a local woman and her family. But Peru is such a long trip for me to get there, I wanted to check out a destination closer to the USA for my regular trips. Your recent appeal for the young Haitian woman is exactly the kind of arrangement I am looking for, but I'm not quite ready to make the move yet. Next year will tell the tale!
Many of you know me from the Sosua line. I'm thinking to move to the Cofresi area and I'm looking to learn all I can about living there. Thinking to take a long-term rental. Looks like $850 per month will get you a lot! Questions; I have a big parsola. I'm good on it. Is it safe to drive this from Cofresi to P. P? Girls? Tell me all you can. BTW I've lived in at Infiit-Blu Sosua for the last three months, so I know all about the girls mentalities. Not looking for advice there. Just: locations, safety, quantity and quality? Also I really like to snorkel and fish, so, how is that Cofresi beach and other playas for clear water to snorkel, and how is the fishing? Price? Quality?
Thanks,
Gary
One grammarian was wounded in the semi-colon.Hey Charles, you are too funny! .
My comment about defending myself was for when I'll be walking with a walker. In some places in the USA that is asking for trouble, and I'm sure that's just as true in the DR.There are a couple of guys in Sosua who are in wheelchairs, but seem to get around OK and accepted as part of the community. Also a couple of Dominican guys in wheelchairs usually collecting money in a cup outside the pharmacy. Again, they seem to be treated with respect.
Charles Pooter
10-20-13, 22:46
Many of you know me from the Sosua line. I'm thinking to move to the Cofresi area and I'm looking to learn all I can about living there. Thinking to take a long-term rental. Looks like $850 per month will get you a lot! Questions; I have a big parsola. I'm good on it. Is it safe to drive this from Cofresi to P. P? Girls? Tell me all you can. BTW I've lived in at Infiit-Blu Sosua for the last three months, so I know all about the girls mentalities. Not looking for advice there. Just: locations, safety, quantity and quality? Also I really like to snorkel and fish, so, how is that Cofresi beach and other playas for clear water to snorkel, and how is the fishing? Price? Quality?
Thanks,
GaryHi Gary.
I pay US$235 for a three-bedroom apartment in an OK location in Puerto Plata so you should get a palace for US$850.
I wouldn't fancy driving a pasola (note spelling) along the main highway myself, but it should be safe enough in the daytime. Suicidal at night, though, from both a traffic and robbery point of view.
What attracts you to Cofresi in particular?
I imagine the main reason you would want to go into Pto Pta is for shopping, and for that you might prefer to take a taxi for your weekly needs. But when going in and out unloaded, you could take the guagua or publico unless you live too far from the main road. And if going in at night for the night-life (what little there is of it) you definitely don't want a pasola.
Cofresi is a relatively affluent area, but the stretch between it and Pto Pta is a bit desolate with not many people about.
I am happy to hear you enjoyed your stay in Sosua long enough to want to continue living on the North Coast.
You would choose Peru over the DR knowing what you know now?
I was thinking that being a white guy in the DR would be my biggest issue. I mean I stand out in Peru too, but nothing like I do in the DR.I've heard some white guys say that Peru is a goldmine for white guys.
How much is a taxi to go from:
1. Casa Cayena to BB.
2. From BB to Playa Doradas hotel Blue Bay.
3. From Blue Bay to Casa Cayena or Cabarete.
4. From Cabarete to Sosua
Thanks. Any recommendations and / or suggestions would be much appreciated!
El Lobo Solo
10-21-13, 15:31
I've heard some white guys say that Peru is a goldmine for white guys.We all know there is plenty of racism in Latin America, and Peru is no exception. Many times women have made comments about my eyes (kind of greenish) , hair color, and skin (pretty darn white, and I don't ever try to tan due to skin cancer issues in the family). There are lots of rumors about this. However, I don't think there are too many women anywhere who will base any kind of serious relationship simply on race. In other words, it might get your foot in the door, but after that it's all about your personal chemistry.
Any guy who would accept a relationship based on his race is foolish IMO.
I traveled with a black guy for several years, and he did get treated differently in some places. However, in Brazil he got the royal treatment and I was only tolerated. So he got even with me there! LOL Because he was much more personable than me, he usually was able to get a lot friendlier a lot faster when we stayed anywhere for a week or so, and the women had more fun with him than me. I tried to take lessons but you can't change basic personality types. I call myself El Lobo Solo for a reason!
Charles Pooter
10-21-13, 19:21
However, I don't think there are too many women anywhere who will base any kind of serious relationship simply on race . any guy who would accept a relationship based on his race is foolish IMO.Wise words. Who wants to shack up with someone ignorant enough to be a racist (whatever direction their prejudices point)?
Charles Pooter
10-21-13, 19:51
How much is a taxi to go from . etcI am just guessing to start the ball rolling, because I never use private taxis. I am happy to be corrected by those who do, so long as they are not dumbass newbies who got taken for a ride in more than one sense.
1) Casa Cayena to BB.
1200 pesos (US$30).
You can do it during daylight for 30 peso moto + 50 pesos publico + 40 pesos JC publico + 50 pesos moto (total 170 pesos) if you don't have more than a backpack. JC publicos stop running after dark.
Or commission a dedicated publico, in which case 30 pesos moto + 700 pesos to the door of BB.
2) From BB to Playa Dorada hotel Blue Bay.
600 pesos (US$15)
3a) From Blue Bay to Casa Cayena.
800 pesos (US$20)
Or 50 pesos by publico or guagua plus half-mile walk each end or 30 peso moto in Sosua.
3b) From Blue Bay to Cabarete.
900 pesos (US$25)
Or 50 pesos + 40 pesos by publico or 80 pesos by Rio San Juan guagua (plus moto in Cabarete?)
4) From Cabarete to Sosua
400 pesos (US$10).
Or 40 pesos by publico.
Note: when not using a private taxi you might need to add a moto ride (at 30 to 50 pesos) at one or both ends of your trip depending where you start and finish from.
Note: if my dollar conversions are inconsistent it is because those who pay in US dollars are likely to have charges rounded up to a convenient amount.
Note: if you get a chance to share the ride and cost with other guys, then private taxis become quite reasonable as they charge per mile and not per person.
Thanks, Charles. Again, you have been a big, big help! Much appreciated!
Yes, I will have to lug luggage on each of those trips. So, I will stick to 4 wheels! BTW, what exactly is a dedicated publico?
I plan to check out various spots and stay in several hotels during the 4 weeks. Don't want the Cupid chicas trying to track me down, or show up in the lobby, assuming I meet up with a few! None of them knows my exact days or where I will be staying. I will decide and call or text them from a local Claro phone after I arrive!
I want to stay on the move! Hahaha. But seriously I do want to be in Sosua, BB, stay at a resort in Playa Dorada (all of those are now booked) , and I plan to book at the Millenium in Cabarete, for a couple of nights.
Do you know of a good, honest private driver with his own car who might me a better alternative? Then I can stick with one guy! I think someone posted a name of a driver in the past few weeks on this board. I will have to comb thru to find that post again!
Thanks again, Mr, Pooter (JK, I know that's not your last name!) Look forward to meeting you!
=Charles Pooter; 1486618]I am just guessing to start the ball rolling, because I never use private taxis. I am happy to be corrected by those who do, so long as they are not dumbass newbies who got taken for a ride in more than one sense.
1) Casa Cayena to BB.
1200 pesos (US$30).
You can do it during daylight for 30 peso moto + 50 pesos publico + 40 pesos JC publico + 50 pesos moto (total 170 pesos) if you don't have more than a backpack. JC publicos stop running after dark.
Or commission a dedicated publico, in which case 30 pesos moto + 700 pesos to the door of BB.
2) From BB to Playa Dorada hotel Blue Bay.
600 pesos (US$15)
3a) From Blue Bay to Casa Cayena.
800 pesos (US$20)
Or 50 pesos by publico or guagua plus half-mile walk each end or 30 peso moto in Sosua.
3b) From Blue Bay to Cabarete...
Any guy who would accept a relationship based on his race is foolish IMO.No need to get defensive. I wasn't saying it in a negative way. I don't think there is anything wrong with any advantage a guy can use when it comes to putting yourself in an environment where pussy might be easier to obtain.
Everyone has their preferences. I know Afro American guys that love places like Australia & Sweden because they say they get a lot of love there, so maybe its a pussy paradise for them. I'm sure there are people that think a relationship based solely on money is foolish. Everyone has his or her preferences and fetishes. I'm referring to bangs and not wives, anyway. If a chic digs a surfer type and wants to freak him because of it, who am I to say that is wrong? LOL
Are you familiar with the district of Miraflores near the edge of the cliff known as "El Malecon"? That is where one of my buddies has been living for the last 3 years. He told me there are sexy chicas in Peru of many mixes and most of them are very attracted to white foreigners. According to him, finding a Peruvian girl to fuck as a white foreigner is like shooting fish in a barrel, particularly in the clubs, bars, penas (live interactive music party's) , beaches (summer-especially the southern beaches are fuck fests) , and central downtown Lima.
I've also heard that many people in the high end districts speak fairly good english and the women love communicating in english there with english speaking natives. I've never been to Peru so I wouldn't know, but I was thinking that you might offer another opinion of how women, in general, treated you there. If you had noticed anything? Basically you said it gets you in the front door.
Charles Pooter
10-22-13, 01:13
Thanks, Charles.
What exactly is a dedicated publico?Remember I am only guessing based on the few times I have used taxis years ago and then upping the prices to allow for inflation. Other members may post better info.
Publicos (carros publicos) are shared taxis running along fixed routes and are extremely cheap and frequent. For example, Pto Pta to Sosua is 45 pesos whereas a private taxi would cost in the upper hundreds. The downside is they squeeze two passengers in the front bucket seat meant for one, and four passengers on the bench seat at back meant for three. You can overcome this if you board at a terminus by paying for two adjacent seats (still a very cheap ride). If you hail them mid-route you are unlikely to get this option and will have to squeeze in.
If you go to the terminus in Pto Pta or in Sosua you can negotiate a price for them to take only you to your specific destination. Specify they are not to stop for other passengers (except shapely chicas). The price is about half what a private taxi would charge but still double what they would make by filling their cab with passengers, so they are usually willing. The downside is the cars are usually clapped-out old heaps but you are not trying to impress anyone (I hope). If the chica sees you arrive in one of these she will know you are not some dumb, rich tourist pendejo and that you know the score here.
I don't think they are allowed into Playa Dorada (but could be wrong) but you haven't mentioned going from Sosua into Playa Dorada so that should not be a problem.
Do you know of a good, honest private driver with his own car who might me a better alternative? Then I can stick with one guy!I know one in Pto Pta. But if you use the same guy everywhere from Costambar through to Cabarete (a thirty mile stretch) you will be paying a lot more because he will have to do a return trip from his home to wherever you are before he starts work and will charge you for that time and gas. Plus he will forever turn up late. I really cannot see any advantage in it. In one of my previous posts I advised not to get any closer to Dominicans than you have to. You are just a mark to them.
Thanks again, Mr Pooter. Look forward to meeting you!I don't usually mix with people rich enough to use private taxis.
I plan to check out various spots and stay in several hotels during the 4 weeks. Don't want the Cupid chicas trying to track me down, or show up in the lobby, assuming I meet up with a few! None of them knows my exact days or where I will be staying. I will decide and call or text them from a local Claro phone after I arrive!If you are so nervous of them that you have to change hotels I am surprised you go out of your way to meet them. I hope that after starting at Blackbeards you will see the light and realise all this internet dating crap is just wasting your time and money.
1. Thanks! The point of potentially becoming a mark for a private taxi guy is a good point. I will avoid that option.
2. Re being too 'rich' to use private taxis? WTF, I have a bunch of luggage. Laptop, ipad etc as well. I can't use a bus or a publico due to my need for space for luggage etc.
3. If a guy is buying a flight, and spending a whole bunch of money on hotels and chicas, then the incremental $100-$130 spent over 4 weeks, I think, as a percentage of total, is not that big a percentage. Also, please remember that unlike many here, I am new to all this, after having recently gone thru a divorce after 20-25 years of married life, and total focus on work and other things besides this. So, in terms of money spent on this kind of stuff, cumulatively over the years, you might still have me beat! In any event, I expect to only live once, and give my over 50 status, I am not going to wait any longer. That is just FYI, FWIW.
I totally appreciate your kind advice and help. It is absolutely appreciated, I promise you!
Remember I am only guessing based on the few times I have used taxis years ago and then upping the prices to allow for inflation. Other members may post better info.
Publicos (carros publicos) are shared taxis running along fixed routes and are extremely cheap and frequent. For example, Pto Pta to Sosua is 45 pesos whereas a private taxi would cost in the upper hundreds. The downside is they squeeze two passengers in the front bucket seat meant for one, and four passengers on the bench seat at back meant for three. You can overcome this if you board at a terminus by paying for two adjacent seats (still a very cheap ride). If you hail them mid-route you are unlikely to get this option and will have to squeeze in.
I know one in Pto Pta. But if you use the same guy everywhere from Costambar through to Cabarete (a thirty mile stretch) you will be paying a lot more because he will have to do a return trip from his home to wherever you are before he starts work and will charge you for that time and gas. Plus he will forever turn up late. I really cannot see any advantage in it. In one of my previous posts I advised not to get any closer to Dominicans than you have to. You are just a mark to them.
I don't usually mix with people rich enough to use private taxis.
If you are so nervous of them that you have to change hotels I am surprised you go out of your way to meet them. I hope that after starting at Blackbeards you will see the light and realise all this internet dating crap is just wasting your time and money.
RocheBrazi
10-22-13, 21:40
I will stay in a All Inclusive in POP with my Dominican Chica in January.
Plan is to have a good Time there, chill, eat, drink and Fuck till I am out of Leche.
I spent allready 6 Days with her in Summer and I like the GFE. I personally like it more than Hunting Pros.
I need to go to POP on the first day to buy a Prepaid Sim Card for Internet.
Anyone knows where I can buy cheap generic Viagras or Cyalis there? I plan to buy my Sim Card at La Sirenas in POP. Is there any recommend Pharmacia close by?
Also I never watched a Baseball Game Live and thought I might can do in the Road.
I know there is a Stadium in POP. But are there any good Games. Where I need to go to see a good higher League Game?
Anyone knows where I can buy cheap generic Viagra or Cialis there? I plan to buy my SIM Card at La Sirena in POP. Is there any recommended Pharmacia close by?There is a pharmacy inside La Sirena. You can buy LaPela or Mambo, which are generic forms of Cialis. You can also get generic Viagra (sildenafil). The prices are not particularly cheap but about the same as all the other pharmacies in Puerto Plata-though probably cheap by US standards, and right there for you to find. The only place I know that has this stuff really, really cheap is Latino Minimarket in Sosua. There are pharmacies on every street corner in Puerto Plata, but no great deals, I don't think.
1. Thanks! The point of potentially becoming a mark for a private taxi guy is a good point. I will avoid that option.
2. Re being too 'rich' to use private taxis? WTF, I have a bunch of luggage. Laptop, ipad etc as well. I can't use a bus or a publico due to my need for space for luggage etc.
3. If a guy is buying a flight, and spending a whole bunch of money on hotels and chicas, then the incremental $100-$130 spent over 4 weeks, I think, as a percentage of total, is not that big a percentage. Also, please remember that unlike many here, I am new to all this, after having recently gone thru a divorce after 20-25 years of married life, and total focus on work and other things besides this. So, in terms of money spent on this kind of stuff, cumulatively over the years, you might still have me beat! In any event, I expect to only live once, and give my over 50 status, I am not going to wait any longer. That is just FYI, FWIW.
I totally appreciate your kind advice and help. It is absolutely appreciated, I promise you!A couple of days ago two Haitian chicas I know negotiated a taxi to bring them plus suitcases from Puerto Plata to Sosua. They paid 400 pesos (ten dollars American).
On this board it doesn't matter if you paid $2000 for your flight, because if you tip a chica $5 someone will say you should have given her 50 centavos and she would worship your dick until eternity. Mostly I agree with you, but in the DR people who overpay by local standards sometimes attract unwanted attention from dishonest elements, so it is best to always give the impression that you are down to your last dollar. So you have 20, 000 pesos in your pocket, but you offer a chica 1000 pesos and when she asks for 1200, you look shocked, clutch the left side of your chest, and tell her you don't have that kind of money.
RocheBrazi
10-22-13, 22:51
There is a pharmacy inside La Sirena. You can buy LaPela or Mambo, which are generic forms of Cialis. You can also get generic Viagra (sildenafil). The prices are not particularly cheap but about the same as all the other pharmacies in Puerto Plata-though probably cheap by US standards, and right there for you to find. The only place I know that has this stuff really, really cheap is Latino Minimarket in Sosua. There are pharmacies on every street corner in Puerto Plata, but no great deals, I don't think.thanks for the Info.
I will buy them at La Sirena then.
We speak not about american Standards, we speak about german Standards.
Here is one single Pill about 10-15 Dollars.
So I can't afford them for Sport fucking here
Charles Pooter
10-22-13, 22:58
Also I never watched a Baseball Game Live and thought I might can do in the Road.
I know there is a Stadium in POP. But are there any good Games?As far as I know it is never used for baseball. Certainly not for games of any great standard. It is not used for anything much else either. I reckon if they had the money they would pull it down. All it is good for is a landmark for giving directions.
Where I need to go to see a good higher League Game?Santiago is the nearest.
There is nice stadium at Altamira, halfway to Santiago on the main highway, but I don't think it is used for league matches because it is only a village. Just charity matches and private functions.
There is a small but new stadium near La Javilla in Pto Pta where local teams play.
If you want a fun afternoon you can watch softball at the Munoz stadium in a "campo" setting. Lots of chicas and a bar, but hard to pick them up in front of their family and neighbours. When I went a fight broke out between the teams after the match in the bar. It had all been very sociable up to that point.
By the way, POP is an airport near Sosua. The abbreviation for Puerto Plata city is "Pto Pta".
El Lobo Solo
10-22-13, 23:06
so it is best to always give the impression that you are down to your last dollar. So you have 20, 000 pesos in your pocket, but you offer a chica 1000 pesos and when she asks for 1200, you look shocked, clutch the left side of your chest, and tell her you don't have that kind of money.In former posts I said I am looking to maybe move to the DR. I shared some concerns about becoming a target due to among other things, being white.
But I am also concerned about this wealth perception thing. I'm extremely wealthy compared to probably 90% of DR citizens, but only comfortable in the USA. My idea is to try to rent a decent house or apartment, and then host a parade of women through my doors for several years. C Pooters comments about knowing 500 Haitianas certainly would be my goal (LOL I should ever hope to get there!). But to even get halfway there would require that I don't get attacked on a regular basis by thieves etc.
I'm also digesting a serious conversation I had with a very sweet but wise woman last week. She told me that she has been diligently saving money from her work, and expects to be able to buy a small piece of land and then build a small house on it within the next couple of years. Here's the kicker. She said that she would have to move completely away from the neighborhood where she currently lives (in her mother's house, where she grew up) because if she doesn't, her neighbors and even members of her own family will be so consumed with envy and jealousy that she could not live there in comfort.
For those of you who have been living in the DR for awhile, what say you?
I have heard of this kind of envy and jealousy in some other destinations, but was kind of bummed out to hear her bitterness about it.
Charles Pooter
10-22-13, 23:11
A couple of days ago two Haitian chicas I know negotiated a taxi to bring them plus suitcases from Puerto Plata to Sosua. They paid 400 pesos (ten dollars American).That's cheap. Was it a publico? I cannot see a gringo getting that price from a normal taxi. The standard was 700 pesos four years ago. Maybe they threw in sex as well as part of the payment. (An idea for Haven123 if he can find a gay driver).
Charles Pooter
10-22-13, 23:20
2. Re being too 'rich' to use private taxis? WTF, I have a bunch of luggage. Laptop, ipad etc as well. I can't use a bus or a publico due to my need for space for luggage etc.
3. If a guy is buying a flight, and spending a whole bunch of money on hotels and chicas, then the incremental $100-$130 spent over 4 weeks, I think, as a percentage of total, is not that big a percentage. Also, please remember that unlike many here, I am new to all this, after having recently gone thru a divorce after 20-25 years of married life, and total focus on work and other things besides this. So, in terms of money spent on this kind of stuff, cumulatively over the years, you might still have me beat! In any event, I expect to only live once, and give my over 50 status, I am not going to wait any longer. That is just FYI, FWIW.I was just kidding. Of course if you have luggage and valuables, a private taxi is a must for moving around. But use the various public transport options for getting around otherwise. No point in visiting the DR and spending all your time in a sterile tourist "bubble". Experience a bit of the real DR in all its horror.
By the way you can carry luggage on publicos and guaguas for a nominal charge, but obviously not a good idea for valuable or delicate items.
Thanks for your kind comments and I hope you have a great time.
That's cheap. Was it a publico? I cannot see a gringo getting that price from a normal taxi. The standard was 700 pesos four years ago. Maybe they threw in sex as well as part of the payment. (An idea for Haven123 if he can find a gay driver).I think it was a publico. Another way to make the trip cheaply with baggage is to use Metrobus, but of course that does not go door-to-door. Or you could go Caribe Tours to Charamicos and then another 250 pesos for the taxi to your address in el Batey. People tend to forget you can take Caribe Tours or Metro between Sosua and Puerto Plata quite cheaply in relative luxury with a / see reclining seats, etc.
Oh boy. I was laughing so hard!
Unfortunately, not gay. Love gay folks. But I don't have that in my DNA. Before I get clobbered, yes I know it largely a natural creation, and partly not quite so. Anyway, that strategy has zero prob of working for me. And I could not pull off the 'turn into a sexy Haitian chica' magic trick either!
That's cheap. Was it a publico? I cannot see a gringo getting that price from a normal taxi. The standard was 700 pesos four years ago. Maybe they threw in sex as well as part of the payment. (An idea for Haven123 if he can find a gay driver).
Thanks for this suggestion, Frannie. I think I will go the Caribe Tours route. I suppose they have a website?
I think it was a publico. Another way to make the trip cheaply with baggage is to use Metrobus, but of course that does not go door-to-door. Or you could go Caribe Tours to Charamicos and then another 250 pesos for the taxi to your address in el Batey. People tend to forget you can take Caribe Tours or Metro between Sosua and Puerto Plata quite cheaply in relative luxury with a / see reclining seats, etc.
RocheBrazi
10-23-13, 08:25
As far as I know it is never used for baseball. Certainly not for games of any great standard. It is not used for anything much else either. I reckon if they had the money they would pull it down. All it is good for is a landmark for giving directions.
Santiago is the nearest.Thank you for the Info.
I try to find out if there a Match worth to watch in Santiago when I am there
I've been thinking about the same myself, but after a few months spent in DR (a few days each trip) I've changed my mind.
I love Dominican chicas, but after several days of fucking and drinking it really gets boring.
If you compare DR with USA and Europe the only advantage seems to be chicas. I'll compare a few things below.
-Healthcare-much cheaper, but quality is so much lower.
-Restaurants-sometimes cheaper, sometimes more expensive, but variety is so low; I miss NYC restaurants after a week.
-Groceries-usually more expensive, variety is so low.
-Pretty much everything, from TVs and computers to clothes is plus 50-150% comparing to the USA.
-Air fare is just crazy expensive, over 500$ for JFK-POP return trip and sometimes during US holidays the price could be over a 1, 000$! You can easily pay half the price for the same distance within US, not to mention Europe where you can pay 30-80 Euros (40-110$) on Ryanair or Easyjet.
-Cars-double price comparing to the USA.
-Culture and entertainment (besides fucking around). No theaters, almost no movie theaters and so on.
-Home utilities-with constant need of generator and overpriced gas and many other things you can pay more than in USA.
In former posts I said I am looking to maybe move to the DR. I shared some concerns about becoming a target due to among other things, being white.
But I am also concerned about this wealth perception thing. I'm extremely wealthy compared to probably 90% of DR citizens, but only comfortable in the USA. My idea is to try to rent a decent house or apartment, and then host a parade of women through my doors for several years. C Pooters comments about knowing 500 Haitianas certainly would be my goal (LOL I should ever hope to get there!). But to even get halfway there would require that I don't get attacked on a regular basis by thieves etc.
I'm also digesting a serious conversation I had with a very sweet but wise woman last week. She told me that she has been diligently saving money from her work, and expects to be able to buy a small piece of land and then build a small house on it within the next couple of years. Here's the kicker. She said that she would have to move completely away from the neighborhood where she currently lives (in her mother's house, where she grew up) because if she doesn't, her neighbors and even members of her own family will be so consumed with envy and jealousy that she could not live there in comfort.
For those of you who have been living in the DR for awhile, what say you?
I have heard of this kind of envy and jealousy in some other destinations, but was kind of bummed out to hear her bitterness about it.
Nice place to visit but living there may be not. DR is a great change of pace. Just like the women if you spend to much time with them you see how limited your relationship is. I have noticed that many expats seem some what sour about the Dr for many of the reasons you mentioned. I think having the best of both worlds is the answer. Spend the winter in the DR but live primarily in your own country.
I've been thinking about the same myself, but after a few months spent in DR (a few days each trip) I've changed my mind.
I love Dominican chicas, but after several days of fucking and drinking it really gets boring.
If you compare DR with USA and Europe the only advantage seems to be chicas. I'll compare a few things below.
-Healthcare-much cheaper, but quality is so much lower.
-Restaurants-sometimes cheaper, sometimes more expensive, but variety is so low; I miss NYC restaurants after a week.
-Groceries-usually more expensive, variety is so low.
-Pretty much everything, from TVs and computers to clothes is plus 50-150% comparing to the USA.
-Air fare is just crazy expensive, over 500$ for JFK-POP return trip and sometimes during US holidays the price could be over a 1, 000$! You can easily pay half the price for the same distance within US, not to mention Europe where you can pay 30-80 Euros (40-110$) on Ryanair or Easyjet.
-Cars-double price comparing to the USA.
-Culture and entertainment (besides fucking around). No theaters, almost no movie theaters and so on.
-Home utilities-with constant need of generator and overpriced gas and many other things you can pay more than in USA.
El Lobo Solo
10-23-13, 13:58
I've been thinking about the same myself, but after a few months spent in DR (a few days each trip) I've changed my mind.I'm kind of getting that same vibe. But I have two more trips already booked, and the jury is still out.
One huge advantage of Lima, Peru, is that like NYC, if you ever get bored in Lima, you are tired of life (to paraphrase Boswell). My next trip is to southern DR, including el capital Santo Domingo. I am very curious to see how well the big city compares with Northern DR.
I've been thinking about the same myself, but after a few months spent in DR (a few days each trip) I've changed my mind.
I love Dominican chicas, but after several days of fucking and drinking it really gets boring.
If you compare DR with USA and Europe the only advantage seems to be chicas. I'll compare a few things below.
-Healthcare-much cheaper, but quality is so much lower.
-Restaurants-sometimes cheaper, sometimes more expensive, but variety is so low; I miss NYC restaurants after a week.
-Groceries-usually more expensive, variety is so low.
-Pretty much everything, from TVs and computers to clothes is plus 50-150% comparing to the USA.
-Air fare is just crazy expensive, over 500$ for JFK-POP return trip and sometimes during US holidays the price could be over a 1, 000$! You can easily pay half the price for the same distance within US, not to mention Europe where you can pay 30-80 Euros (40-110$) on Ryanair or Easyjet.
-Cars-double price comparing to the USA.
-Culture and entertainment (besides fucking around). No theaters, almost no movie theaters and so on.
-Home utilities-with constant need of generator and overpriced gas and many other things you can pay more than in USA.Really depends what you are comparing it with. I think that compared to retiring to Florida, the quality of life in the DR is better dollar for dollar.
Yes, some thing are more expensive, though you can order through Amazon and pay no tax on items of value less than $200. I think restaurants are better than Florida, though probably New York City restaurants are better than DR.
Public transportation is very cheap in the DR, if you want to live without all the bother of a car. You can walk everywhere, which is hard to do in Florida, probably easier in NYC.
Climate is better than Florida which has very oppressive summers with many electrical storms and quite cold spells in the winter.
If you rent a condo that has a good generator, then power outages are a non issue.
Modern medicines and Internet all available. Also cable TV with channels from all countries very cheap. I don't really watch TV, but it seems that the cable is better than in the US.
Standard of health care much less high tech than US, but much, much cheaper. I know people who have had surgeries here with good outcomes. They tend to use ultrasounds a lot instead of MRI scans, which is much cheaper and seems fairly effective. Dentistry is fine, and much, much cheaper than the US.
Housing rentals and construction much cheaper than Florida when comparing like for like. For $1000 per month, you can live in a really nice 2-bedroom furnished apartment with pool, landscaped gardens, barbecue pits, wi-fi, cooking gas, and cable TV all included. You can get a pretty decent apartment for $500 per month with pool, maintenance, generator, etc. How much for this in NYC? I hate to think.
But what it really comes down to is whether you like the culture, the people, the language, etc. Clearly there are all kinds of reasons to prefer living in the US, especially if you have family and connections there, but if you don't, then DR is very liveable.
Nice place to visit but living there may be not. DR is a great change of pace. Just like the women if you spend to much time with them you see how limited your relationship is. I have noticed that many expats seem some what sour about the Dr for many of the reasons you mentioned. I think having the best of both worlds is the answer. Spend the winter in the DR but live primarily in your own country.I know expats who have that sour attitude, but I live in the DR and am grateful every day to live in such a beautiful place with such great people. A lot of it just comes down to your mental attitude.
Just yesterday I was paying for a little girl to have school dinners provided at the Christian School and the very pleasant guy who runs the kitchen was telling me that all the kids in the school are his children, because he doesn't have any of his own and he prays everyday that The Lord will give him a child, and you see how happy the kids and the staff are in the school, and it doesn't seem like the US at all.
Of course I am probably made happy by little things because I have a trivial mind.
El Lobo Solo
10-23-13, 14:27
Really depends what you are comparing it with. I think that compared to retiring to Florida, the quality of life in the DR is better dollar for dollar.As the song said "you know you've got to finally decide, to pick up on one and let the other one slide." Fortunately while I struggle with this big decision, there will be sweet Dominicanas ready and willing to help me make up my mind!
It might be hard to think with your big head LOL.
It's really hard to make right decision after having all kinds of fun.
I guess after several trips and COOL OFF periods you will understand what's best for you.
Good luck!
As the song said "you know you've got to finally decide, to pick up on one and let the other one slide." Fortunately while I struggle with this big decision, there will be sweet Dominicanas ready and willing to help me make up my mind!
DR could be cheaper comparing to USA.
Amazon-what about delivery cost and reliability of Dominican Post Office?
I guess comparing your spending for a year or two during short trips would help.
But it's not only about money, boredom and quality of life matters even more IMHO.
I did not spend too much time in Florida, but diversity in Florida is so much better. I have to agree about weather though.
Power outages with high gas price is quite a problem according to some locals.
Internet and cable TV in my experience have serious quality issues.
Use of ultrasounds instead of MRI scans with high risk of bad diagnostics may cost you your life.
For $1000 per month in NYC you can have a shit hole, you are absolutely right about that. But if you'll check out most of smaller towns in USA, you can have much better quality for the same price.
Walking ATM attitude from many locals is a serious issue.
DR is can be livable, definitely not a worst place to live. I just think that multiple visits with coll off periods are important in order to make right decision. I guess when I will finally get tired of a rat race I might reconsider.
Really depends what you are comparing it with. I think that compared to retiring to Florida, the quality of life in the DR is better dollar for dollar.
Yes, some thing are more expensive, though you can order through Amazon and pay no tax on items of value less than $200. I think restaurants are better than Florida, though probably New York City restaurants are better than DR.
Public transportation is very cheap in the DR, if you want to live without all the bother of a car. You can walk everywhere, which is hard to do in Florida, probably easier in NYC.
Climate is better than Florida which has very oppressive summers with many electrical storms and quite cold spells in the winter.
If you rent a condo that has a good generator, then power outages are a non issue.
Modern medicines and Internet all available. Also cable TV with channels from all countries very cheap. I don't really watch TV, but it seems that the cable is better than in the US.
Standard of health care much less high tech than US, but much, much cheaper. I know people who have had surgeries here with good outcomes. They tend to use ultrasounds a lot instead of MRI scans, which is much cheaper and seems fairly effective. Dentistry is fine, and much, much cheaper than the US.
Housing rentals and construction much cheaper than Florida when comparing like for like. For $1000 per month, you can live in a really nice 2-bedroom furnished apartment with pool, landscaped gardens, barbecue pits, wi-fi, cooking gas, and cable TV all included. You can get a pretty decent apartment for $500 per month with pool, maintenance, generator, etc. How much for this in NYC? I hate to think.
But what it really comes down to is whether you like the culture, the people, the language, etc. Clearly there are all kinds of reasons to prefer living in the US, especially if you have family and connections there, but if you don't, then DR is very liveable.
100% agree with that statement.
For those who can afford it, it seems to be the best solution.
Nice place to visit but living there may be not. DR is a great change of pace. Just like the women if you spend to much time with them you see how limited your relationship is. I have noticed that many expats seem some what sour about the Dr for many of the reasons you mentioned. I think having the best of both worlds is the answer. Spend the winter in the DR but live primarily in your own country.
100% agree with that statement.
For those who can afford it, it seems to be the best solution.That's my game plan. I need that home base that is safe and comfortable. I've noticed that after 10 days in the DR, I'm ready to go home to Miami and my humble home. The DR has many things about the culture that would drive me crazy if I was a full time resident. How people give up everything and move there confuses me. Just the simple fact that a broke ass motochoncho guy could have you killed for 10k pesos and walk around freely is disturbing. Or a chica can make false allegation with no facts and you will have to pay with your life savings is fucked up.
After all my travels the one place that I could probably live is Thailand. Its clean, respectful, affordable, and fun. But its also a 23 hour flight from the states. Its just the opposite of the DR. The traffic flows smooth and respectful. Everything is clean and orderly. The food and lodging are cheap and good. The women are humble. When I was there with Mr E we rented mopeds and went 80 miles out. Even away from the city it was a peaceful and clean society. Damn I'm missing Thailand already, February can't get here fast enough.
DR could be cheaper comparing to USA.
Amazon-what about delivery cost and reliability of Dominican Post Office?
I guess comparing your spending for a year or two during short trips would help.
But it's not only about money, boredom and quality of life matters even more IMHO.
I did not spend too much time in Florida, but diversity in Florida is so much better. I have to agree about weather though.
Power outages with high gas price is quite a problem according to some locals.
Internet and cable TV in my experience have serious quality issues.
Use of ultrasounds instead of MRI scans with high risk of bad diagnostics may cost you your life.
For $1000 per month in NYC you can have a shit hole, you are absolutely right about that. But if you'll check out most of smaller towns in USA, you can have much better quality for the same price.
Walking ATM attitude from many locals is a serious issue.
DR is can be livable, definitely not a worst place to live. I just think that multiple visits with coll off periods are important in order to make right decision. I guess when I will finally get tired of a rat race I might reconsider.You can ship things from Amazon to a shipping address in Miami and they forward to you. Prices are based on weight, but not too bad.
Power outages, yes, but the apartment I rent has the cooking gas included in rent via central supply and has a backup generator that always kicks in within seconds. For locals this can be a problem, yes.
Cable TV is pretty good-I wish it went out more often, but it doesn't- and Internet has occasional intermissions, but you get used to it. There has never been a day in more than 2 years when I could not use the Internet to do everything I needed.
Walking ATM attitude dissipates when they get to know you.
I would not worry too much about MRIs. If you die, you die. When my parents were kids there were no modern antibiotics (only sulphonamides) and no reliable cure for syphilis or TB (my grandmother died of TB before the age of 30), and I didn't have a routine blood test until I was in my mid forties and there was no Viagra. Be thankful you live in the modern age.
In any case, you have to make mental adjustments. You cannot understand the quality of life in the DR when looking at it from a US perspective, because you are still thinking like an American. Life in the DR is simpler and more like earlier times. That is the whole attraction.
-Groceries-usually more expensive, variety is so low.It depends what you buy. Imported goods are more expensive, but you can buy Russian and Polish products and God knows what in the supermarket. On the other hand, once you have adapted to a diet based on local Dominican meats and produce, you get used to it. I do find it annoying that you can't find beef stock cubes, but then you just have to make your own beef stock. Chicken is good and is not injected with saline fluids. The range of fruits and vegetables is equal or better than the supermarkets in Florida and cheaper, sometimes a lot cheaper. In Sosua, due to the presence of German bakeries, the breads are considerably superior to the breads available in US supermarkets. Dairy is OK. Yoghurts are a bit better than what is available in the US, local butter is available, eggs are good. Fresh milk is a problem, but most people find it more convenient to buy powder and mix it at home. In any case you can't get fresh milk in Florida either. It is true that you can't find some items in supermarkets at times, like I could not find ground or fresh ginger yesterday which pissed me off, (but they have it in La Sirena).
Clearly, it's the attitude, or mindset, Frannie! You've obviously got that. And grounded in the big picture of things and life!
You can ship things from Amazon to a shipping address in Miami and they forward to you. Prices are based on weight, but not too bad.
Power outages, yes, but the apartment I rent has the cooking gas included in rent via central supply and has a backup generator that always kicks in within seconds. For locals this can be a problem, yes.
Cable TV is pretty good-I wish it went out more often, but it doesn't- and Internet has occasional intermissions, but you get used to it. There has never been a day in more than 2 years when I could not use the Internet to do everything I needed.
Walking ATM attitude dissipates when they get to know you.
I would not worry too much about MRIs. If you die, you die. When my parents were kids there were no modern antibiotics (only sulphonamides) and no reliable cure for syphilis or TB (my grandmother died of TB before the age of 30) , and I didn't have a routine blood test until I was in my mid forties and there was no Viagra. Be thankful you live in the modern age.
In any case, you have to make mental adjustments. You cannot understand the quality of life in the DR when looking at it from a US perspective, because you are still thinking like an American. Life in the DR is simpler and more like earlier times. That is the whole attraction.
But when you compare with Walmart, Costco, Whole Foods and countless ethnic food supermarkets La Sirena really sucks.
I love Indian, Chinese, Malaysian, Thai and many other different cuisines and I have no other choice, but bring it in my luggage from the States or Europe. The same applies to beer and liquors. Not a big deal when I visit for a few days, but for a person who plan to live in DR this could become an issue.
Sure, you can adapt and in basic staples quality is not bad. One correction about meat, you can never be sure that what you eat is not made from some crap frozen years ago. You can easily find really fresh grass fed meat in USA, but I wish I knew how to do the same in DR.
May I ask for your advice-where you can find some variety in Puerto Plata besides La Sirena and Tropical Supermarket?
It depends what you buy. Imported goods are more expensive, but you can buy Russian and Polish products and God knows what in the supermarket. On the other hand, once you have adapted to a diet based on local Dominican meats and produce, you get used to it. I do find it annoying that you can't find beef stock cubes, but then you just have to make your own beef stock. Chicken is good and is not injected with saline fluids. The range of fruits and vegetables is equal or better than the supermarkets in Florida and cheaper, sometimes a lot cheaper. In Sosua, due to the presence of German bakeries, the breads are considerably superior to the breads available in US supermarkets. Dairy is OK. Yoghurts are a bit better than what is available in the US, local butter is available, eggs are good. Fresh milk is a problem, but most people find it more convenient to buy powder and mix it at home. In any case you can't get fresh milk in Florida either. It is true that you can't find some items in supermarkets at times, like I could not find ground or fresh ginger yesterday which pissed me off, (but they have it in La Sirena).
But when you compare with Walmart, Costco, Whole Foods and countless ethnic food supermarkets La Sirena really sucks.
I love Indian, Chinese, Malaysian, Thai and many other different cuisines and I have no other choice, but bring it in my luggage from the States or Europe. The same applies to beer and liquors. Not a big deal when I visit for a few days, but for a person who plan to live in DR this could become an issue.
Sure, you can adapt and in basic staples quality is not bad. One correction about meat, you can never be sure that what you eat is not made from some crap frozen years ago. You can easily find really fresh grass fed meat in USA, but I wish I knew how to do the same in DR.
May I ask for your advice-where you can find some variety in Puerto Plata besides La Sirena and Tropical Supermarket?Ya there is a butchers shop in the near the center of Puerto.
Plata where they have the whole carcases hanging from hooks and blood-splashed guys in rubber boot will hack off what you want. (Try not to get
Splashed as you watch.) You can also get goat and rabbit. There is also a fish shop that has both fresh and frozen fish. You can buy oriental spices in 5 lbs packs through one of the Amazon merchants, so you can eat chicken masala or whatever you want to your heart's content if you get those supplies and spice combinations.
Fresh fruits, coconuts, , etc. Are often sold in the street, or just above the flea market is a is a food market. (Nearl Mountain View hotel.) You can go to Pricemart in Santiago. There here is a bakery just behind la Sirena, and
And a cake shop up 21st febrero. The pizzeria at the Sunoco gas station on
The highway also has home made cakes, etc. Sunoco breads, deserts, there is s
A good fruit and veg shop almost across from Brughal factory, also sells loose rice, be beans, etc. (near Coca-Cola.)
You can easily find really fresh grass fed meat in USA, but I wish I knew how to do the same in DR.Most beef in the US is actually grain fed and slaughtered at about 2 years. DR beef is usually grass fed and slaughtered at about 6 years and sent direct to market. For this reason DR beef is usually leaner and tougher and requires more prep at the cooking stage.
Tempoecorto
10-24-13, 01:48
Most beef in the US is actually grain fed and slaughtered at about 2 years. DR beef is usually grass fed and slaughtered at about 6 years and sent direct to market. For this reason DR beef is usually leaner and tougher and requires more prep at the cooking stage.I cracked up at the chicken masala thing.
I would love to live a simpler existence, correction, life that reminds me of how it was when I was growing up. Being able to buy freshly slaughtered cow (ahem goat) would be one such thing. Having access to fresh fish is another. I am fed up with everything mostly frozen unless I drive 30 minutes to go to chinatown in Boston, when they can whack a few live fishes and clean those for me.
I also like access to fresh vegetables and fruits. Granted, I may not have cherry or peach etc. But there would be mangoes fresh off the tree just like in my childhood and other tropical delights.
I have come to like Dominican food quite a bit. Including the healthier kinds such as habichuela. Beans cooked with oregano and other spices. I had a woman who brought me cooked goat at one time and another time, another woman cooked meat for me at her house and they were delicious. Granted that Asian cuisine is hard to get but if you are anywhere close to Sosua, you would not miss quality European cuisine including excellent bread as you pointed out. I also understand that in SD, there is a Japanese restaurant now.
The best outcome of course, as you mentioned, depends on your outlook. Not taking life too seriously can work wonders and then of course, anytime, you have had enough, you can always catch a plane to buy ingredients that would spice up and spruce up your life. LOL.
Probably cheaper to feed grass.
Most beef in the US is actually grain fed and slaughtered at about 2 years. DR beef is usually grass fed and slaughtered at about 6 years and sent direct to market. For this reason DR beef is usually leaner and tougher and requires more prep at the cooking stage.
I'll check out some of those places next time I'm in DR.
Ya there is a butchers shop in the near the center of Puerto.
Plata where they have the whole carcases hanging from hooks and blood-splashed guys in rubber boot will hack off what you want. (Try not to get
Splashed as you watch.) You can also get goat and rabbit. There is also a fish shop that has both fresh and frozen fish. You can buy oriental spices in 5 lbs packs through one of the Amazon merchants, so you can eat chicken masala or whatever you want to your heart's content if you get those supplies and spice combinations.
Fresh fruits, coconuts, , etc. Are often sold in the street, or just above the flea market is a is a food market. (Nearl Mountain View hotel.) You can go to Pricemart in Santiago. There here is a bakery just behind la Sirena, and
And a cake shop up 21st febrero. The pizzeria at the Sunoco gas station on
The highway also has home made cakes, etc. Sunoco breads, deserts, there is s
A good fruit and veg shop almost across from Brughal factory, also sells loose rice, be beans, etc. (near Coca-Cola.)
MRI can detect serious stuff which is easily curable when detected early.
Walking ATM attitude can become even worse as the time goes by, it just will be concealed, but of course YMMV.
Mental adjustments-of course it's possible, just make sure you want to adjust that much.
Dominicanas locas attitude for instance are great for short vacation, not so great for everyday life.
You can ship things from Amazon to a shipping address in Miami and they forward to you. Prices are based on weight, but not too bad.
Power outages, yes, but the apartment I rent has the cooking gas included in rent via central supply and has a backup generator that always kicks in within seconds. For locals this can be a problem, yes.
Cable TV is pretty good-I wish it went out more often, but it doesn't- and Internet has occasional intermissions, but you get used to it. There has never been a day in more than 2 years when I could not use the Internet to do everything I needed.
Walking ATM attitude dissipates when they get to know you.
I would not worry too much about MRIs. If you die, you die. When my parents were kids there were no modern antibiotics (only sulphonamides) and no reliable cure for syphilis or TB (my grandmother died of TB before the age of 30) , and I didn't have a routine blood test until I was in my mid forties and there was no Viagra. Be thankful you live in the modern age.
In any case, you have to make mental adjustments. You cannot understand the quality of life in the DR when looking at it from a US perspective, because you are still thinking like an American. Life in the DR is simpler and more like earlier times. That is the whole attraction.
500$ or more for a ticket could be a bit problematic for some folks.
I cracked up at the chicken masala thing.
I would love to live a simpler existence, correction, life that reminds me of how it was when I was growing up. Being able to buy freshly slaughtered cow (ahem goat) would be one such thing. Having access to fresh fish is another. I am fed up with everything mostly frozen unless I drive 30 minutes to go to chinatown in Boston, when they can whack a few live fishes and clean those for me.
I also like access to fresh vegetables and fruits. Granted, I may not have cherry or peach etc. But there would be mangoes fresh off the tree just like in my childhood and other tropical delights.
I have come to like Dominican food quite a bit. Including the healthier kinds such as habichuela. Beans cooked with oregano and other spices. I had a woman who brought me cooked goat at one time and another time, another woman cooked meat for me at her house and they were delicious. Granted that Asian cuisine is hard to get but if you are anywhere close to Sosua, you would not miss quality European cuisine including excellent bread as you pointed out. I also understand that in SD, there is a Japanese restaurant now.
The best outcome of course, as you mentioned, depends on your outlook. Not taking life too seriously can work wonders and then of course, anytime, you have had enough, you can always catch a plane to buy ingredients that would spice up and spruce up your life. LOL.
500$ or more for a ticket could be a bit problematic for some folks.Someone who lives in the NYC area and regularly dines out in NYC restaurants would not find it so.
I would love to live a simpler existence, correction, life that reminds me of how it was when I was growing up.That is one of the main reasons why I like the DR. When I was a small child my mother grew vegetables like peas, beans, tomatoes, and potatoes at home and we had chickens and geese running around. Reminds me of the 1950's only with modern medications, Internet, and cable TV (if you want it.)
I also like access to fresh vegetables and fruits. Granted, I may not have cherry or peach etc. But there would be mangoes fresh off the tree just like in my childhood and other tropical delights.In the DR you never go short of fresh pineapples, guavas, papaya, passion fruit, bananas, avocadoes, and mangoes-and they are cheap. Oranges and imported apples are also readily available if you get a yearning for apple pie. To go with it there are plenty of flavors of ice cream not available elsewhere.
Next month I will be making a trip to Florida and am actually dreading having to try to find something decent to eat in the kind of restaurants you find close to the highway. There will be no DR breakfasts of bacon, free range eggs, homefries, fruit salads of papaya, pineapple, banana, watermelon, orange, aromatic coffee, juice, ice water, croissants, toast, and jam for $5, that is for sure!
Dominican coffee is excellent, strong, fragrant, and full of flavour, but for some reason it seems most people in the US like their coffee both bitter and weak, a combination I truly hate, so it is really difficult to find a decent cup of coffee on the road in hotels, restaurants and gas stations, and I once got reprimanded by a cop for using a camping gas stove to prepare a decent pot of Eight O'Clock coffee in a picnic area at a highway rest station!
Riky Rapido
10-24-13, 14:39
That is one of the main reasons why I like the DR. When I was a small child my mother grew vegetables like peas, beans, tomatoes, and potatoes at home and we had chickens and geese running around. Reminds me of the 1950's only with modern medications, Internet, and cable TV (if you want it.)
In the DR you never go short of fresh pineapples, guavas, papaya, passion fruit, bananas, avocadoes, and mangoes-and they are cheap. Oranges and imported apples are also readily available if you get a yearning for apple pie. To go with it there are plenty of flavors of ice cream not available elsewhere.
Next month I will be making a trip to Florida and am actually dreading having to try to find something decent to eat in the kind of restaurants you find close to the highway. There will be no DR breakfasts of bacon, free range eggs, homefries, fruit salads of papaya, pineapple, banana, watermelon, orange, aromatic coffee, juice, ice water, croissants, toast, and jam for $5, that is for sure!
Dominican coffee is excellent, strong, fragrant, and full of flavour, but for some reason it seems most people in the US like their coffee both bitter and weak, a combination I truly hate, so it is really difficult to find a decent cup of coffee on the road in hotels, restaurants and gas stations, and I once got reprimanded by a cop for using a camping gas stove to prepare a decent pot of Eight O'Clock coffee in a picnic area at a highway rest station!More than 4 years ago at a lakeside picnic in northern NewEngland, I mentioned how good the coffee was in the DR. And how it did not give me the jitters. A gentleman spoke up and identified himself as having a Phd. In Nutrition told me he traveled the Caribbean Basin extensively. He said coffee here is not treated with a DDT derivative in it's processing. He stated that the chemical additives is what causes the jitters, not the caffeine. The closest brand that tastes like Dominican coffee in US is Bostelo, processed in Miami.
I usually buy Santo Domingo.
More than 4 years ago at a lakeside picnic in northern NewEngland, I mentioned how good the coffee was in the DR. And how it did not give me the jitters. A gentleman spoke up and identified himself as having a Phd. In Nutrition told me he traveled the Caribbean Basin extensively. He said coffee here is not treated with a DDT derivative in it's processing. He stated that the chemical additives is what causes the jitters, not the caffeine. The closest brand that tastes like Dominican coffee in US is Bostelo, processed in Miami.
Frodo Baggins
10-24-13, 16:18
Hi all,
Been lurking around the forums and reading the awesome posts and reports. Decided to make a trip to FOD for 2 days as I've heard so much about it and newbie friendly same goes for BB so I've read. Just wanted to see if anyone will be around during that time. Definitely would like to see what it is like in Sosua as well.
Anyway looking forward to it and meeting up with other mongers that may be around then.
Mr. Baggins
I usually buy Santo Domingo.Yes, that is the generic blend of Dominican coffees and pretty good too. I quite like Monte Royale, which is roasted together with some cocoa beans and has a wonderful chocolatey aroma when brewing. It is not expensive. Induban is another brand that I think is made by the same people as the Santo Domingo. There are also some organic coffees that are a bit more expensive that you can find in the large supermarkets. But for general purposes Santo Domingo is fine, and that is what you will get in restaurants.
Tempoecorto
10-24-13, 19:13
That is one of the main reasons why I like the DR. When I was a small child my mother grew vegetables like peas, beans, tomatoes, and potatoes at home and we had chickens and geese running around. Reminds me of the 1950's only with modern medications, Internet, and cable TV (if you want it.)
Dominican coffee is excellent, strong, fragrant, and full of flavour, I was speaking to a young woman yesterday who was away for a week and sent me a picture of their family "campo" property where she was vacationing. It looked idyllic. She lives in Santiago Rodrigues. So your thoughts including that of your childhood increases my pinings. And no, I have no use for cable TV.
Thanks also for reminding me of coffee. Cafe domenicano! Strangely, it is so akin to French Cafe au lait, especially in a bowl as against a cup. That I love (as compared to Italian Cappuccino or caffe expresso). But as a good Indian thanks to your people (and the Chinese) influence, my daily drink is tea. With a "spot" of milk and sugar. If I have to be anywhere for longer than a week, I miss my fragrant Darjeeling.
Tempoecorto
10-24-13, 19:43
500$ or more for a ticket could be a bit problematic for some folks.Perhaps it is. I got bad habits thanks to living in 3 continents for extended period of time. As always, when you leave a place, you remember all the good things of that place so If I were to live anywhere for too long it gives me the jitters and change of space and pace and food and women works with me. I love to wake up in Germany and have a bratwurste, brot and senf (mustard) washed down with a hearty lager. As much as being in Hong Kong and have rice porridge for breakfast. Of course, as we age, long distance air travel does get on our nerves.
Indeed as you had described, I carried stuff from Asia when I lived in Europe and carried stuff from Europe when I lived in Asia. The US is different in that we practically live inside a world community. Especially if you live in places like the NYC. Ah, that reminds me, curry wurst is now a big seller in German fast food places.
Live in countries with vineyards and have fun in coffee producing countries.
I gather many chicas at BB, FOD and Sosua come in from Sosua. How much does it cost them by moto vs. Autobus? Other taxis are those the only 2 options. It takes about an hour, correct?
Is there any way for me to find a moto guy or some other transport person who will bring a chica (met thru Cupid) to Casa Cayena, if I pay that guy upon arrival with the chica?
How much would that be, please?
I will provide a report on this aspect of my experience and the total trip as a report after my trip! THANKS!
Marc Anthony
10-30-13, 06:10
I gather many chicas at BB, FOD and Sosua come in from Sosua. How much does it cost them by moto vs. Autobus? Other taxis are those the only 2 options. It takes about an hour, correct?
Is there any way for me to find a moto guy or some other transport person who will bring a chica (met thru Cupid) to Casa Cayena, if I pay that guy upon arrival with the chica?
How much would that be, please?
I will provide a report on this aspect of my experience and the total trip as a report after my trip! THANKS!Your cupid chica will be able to get around on her own better than you can arrange it, don't sweat it. Give her the address of the hotel. She'll take some combination of buses, gua guas, publicos or motoconchos depending on where she's coming from and it might cost her a few hundred pesos. You can ask her how she's getting there and offer to cover it if you want.
Your cupid chica will be able to get around on her own better than you can arrange it, don't sweat it. Give her the address of the hotel. She'll take some combination of buses, gua guas, publicos or motoconchos depending on where she's coming from and it might cost her a few hundred pesos. You can ask her how she's getting there and offer to cover it if you want.Thanks! What if they say they have pesos to travel, etc. But are willing to come if I arrange transport payment (not to them but whoever I pick and pay)? One said 800 pesos from Santiago (WTF). And 1, 000 pesos for babysitter. Of course, I deleted her pronto!
Marc Anthony
10-30-13, 06:55
Thanks! What if they say they have pesos to travel, etc. But are willing to come if I arrange transport payment (not to them but whoever I pick and pay)? One said 800 pesos from Santiago (WTF). And 1, 000 pesos for babysitter. Of course, I deleted her pronto!She can travel from Santiago to Sosua by Carribe or Metro bus which is a modern fancy air cond bus for about 200 pesos with no more than another 200 for motos to and from the bus stops. If you want to arrange this google the Carribe tours or Metro bus website and pass the ticket and schedule info on. Tell her you can pay for her moto from the bustop if she wants and reimburse her for the other maybe 300 pesos then. Any private driver you get will cost a lot since they end up going both ways to get back home and gas is expensive. I wouldn't get into paying babysitting for a chica you have never met.
She can travel from Santiago to Sosua by Carribe or Metro bus which is a modern fancy air cond bus for about 200 pesos with no more than another 200 for motos to and from the bus stops. If you want to arrange this google the Carribe tours or Metro bus website and pass the ticket and schedule info on. Tell her you can pay for her moto from the bustop if she wants and reimburse her for the other maybe 300 pesos then. Any private driver you get will cost a lot since they end up going both ways to get back home and gas is expensive. I wouldn't get into paying babysitting for a chica you have never met.Thanks, Man!
Charles Pooter
10-30-13, 14:02
Haven, you are coming to the North Coast, and area where attractive chicas in all shapes, sizes and colors are widely available at reasonable prices. Why are you making it so complicated? You are just setting yourself up to waste time and money.
These putas you are talking to on Cupid probably know their way to, and around, Sosua better than anyone on this board. They may already be living there.
Haven, you are coming to the North Coast, and area where attractive chicas in all shapes, sizes and colors are widely available at reasonable prices. Why are you making it so complicated? You are just setting yourself up to waste time and money.
These putas you are talking to on Cupid probably know their way to, and around, Sosua better than anyone on this board. They may already be living there.Haven, listen to Mr. Pooter!
Haven, you are coming to the North Coast, and area where attractive chicas in all shapes, sizes and colors are widely available at reasonable prices. Why are you making it so complicated? You are just setting yourself up to waste time and money.
These putas you are talking to on Cupid probably know their way to, and around, Sosua better than anyone on this board. They may already be living there.1. I agree with you and have adjusted my thinking accordingly.
2. I am going to be in the area for 4 weeks, including stays at a resort in Playa Doradas and maybe Cabarete. So, I need to mix it up some, with a few non-pros (at least ones I believe are non-pros) , ones I connect with, have spoken with and have messaged back and forth for weeks. One coming from San Crustobal who has never asked me for a dime and is studying civil engineering, but also a model and works the booths at trade shows. I am sure she is not innocent or inexperienced, but at least she has never asked me for anything. I believe legit. Another who is a medical student in Santiago. Only wants money for transport. I have perused their Facebook sites well and feel they are not lying and are legit. That does not mean that I could be wrong! I just am the type that likes legitimate college girls who are intelligent, have a brain, study etc. Not in lieu of, but in addition to the chicas at BB and those that hang out in the Sodua bars. So, it is desire to experiment and have a mix of chicas, not just in terms of their appearance but also their intelligence. Yes, I know I am bit crazy and maybe even stupid. But you know the saying, nothing ventured, nothing gained! And no, I am not looking to fall in have, have a novia, or pay them long distance. I am pretty objective and rational when it comes to decisions about people. And I know myself, or at least think I do!
Phaedrus42
10-30-13, 17:05
That is one of the main reasons why I like the DR. When I was a small child my mother grew vegetables like peas, beans, tomatoes, and potatoes at home and we had chickens and geese running around. Reminds me of the 1950's only with modern medications, Internet, and cable TV (if you want it.)Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in. Before I get into my own spin on life here, I felt that a quick synopsis of my situation would clarify from which perspective I am coming from. I am a Canadian by birth and spent the first 50 years of my life in Montreal. Being self employed in the management and ownership of a private, capital asset portfolio, I lived under enormous stress. But with the advantages of building up a level of financial security that allowed me to retire at the age of 50. Having had purchased a house in the DR 10 years earlier as a vacation home, I already was familiar with both the advantages and pitfalls of life in the Dominican when I elected to leave Canada and make the DR my new home.
Having resources that not everyone is privy to, I bought a new home. A fairly large estate in the mountains, less than 10 minutes from Puerto Plata. I live on a property that is about an acre of grass and mature trees and flowers, all behind a privacy wall. The house is a 4 bedroom. 5 bathroom, edifice and the grounds have a huge swimming pool, an outdoor Jacuzzi, numerous paved walkways and ample space to grow my own vegetable garden (which is enclosed in a concrete well to hide it from view) as well as numerous fruit trees. The view is a spectacular vista of the entire Puerto Plata port, the ocean and the city below. Although the estate was not cheap by any standards. In North America I would have had to start a Ponzi scheme and steal millions to be able to afford it. I would never, regardless of how long I worked, ever have lived in a house like this back home. I have the room to have 8 dogs, all of whom have the benefit of ample space to run and play.
As the grounds need constant maintenance, I employ a full time employee to do nothing but mow the lawns, trim all the bushes, care for the trees and flowers, etc. He also feeds the dogs and picks up after them so that the grass is always clean. To help keep the house clean, I have a Dominican woman come in three days a week to do the housekeeping and laundry. Both employees make less per month than I paid my cleaning lady in Canada to come in twice a week. And I overpay by a significant amount compared to other ex-pats that I know. The electricity bill is my biggest expense, but if you factor in the fact that I pay no real estate taxes (as I live outside Puerto Plata in an unincorporated section of San Marcos) , what I spend to maintain the house, pay the electricity, pay all the staff expenses, buy gasoline for my generator and new batteries for my inverter every two years, clean and purchase chemicals for the pool and cover the house insurance invoice. All this costs less than I paid for municipal taxes alone back in Montreal. On a middle class budget, to be honest, in the Dominican I live like a rock star.
As for the inconveniences of living in a Third World country, there are trials and tribulations. But life back in Canada has its own issues. I personally would gladly endure the drawbacks of maintaining and dealing with redundant electrical sources in return for never having to deal with winter. Making sure that the inverter works and that I have ample gasoline for the generator in case the batteries die during long power outages are nothing compared to having to deal with winter tires, snow, impossible to traverse roads covered with black ice and, to be honest, the fucking cold.
In Canada I admit that I had a larger supply of art and culture, but even that is less of an issue for someone who returns back to "civilization" about twice a year. Furthermore, as the DR has pretty decent Internet, and my moral compass when it comes to intellectual property is somewhat skewed, I download all of the high-def television and movies that I want and watch them on a large, flat screen TV that is attached to a surround sound system. I can get all the books that I want on my semi-annual visit and e-mail and a VOIP telephone line (Vonage) allow me to keep in constant contact with my family and friends back home.
My personal dietary habits are another reason that I am so gloriously content here. I eat almost no red meat (not any religious fervor, just a matter of taste). But have always loved chicken and fish. The chicken here is awesome, unbelievably fresh and clearly tastes like it is devoid of the steroids and chemicals that are introduced into the North American feed that is used to grow chickens back home. In Canada, avocados were a guilty pleasure that comprised an expensive part of my weekly grocery order, while here they're as cheap as apples back in Canada. I can get all of the fresh fruit that I want, I can grow my own vegetables the way that suits me and most of the imported, canned and packaged goods that cost so much here were never part of my grocery order back in Montreal, regardless of the cost is in either place.
Instead of howling, winter winds from December to April, I now eat outside by the pool every night, even if it's raining (as I have a lovely gazebo) and enjoy the view and the weather. The need to fill my life with artificial stimulation has been overtaken by the simple pleasures of dining with my wife as the sun sets and talking about our day and life in general. All of this can be done on my budget. And easily. Something that would never have been possible in Canada. Had I even wanted to consider a more "civilized" place like Florida, to live even half as well as I do now would have meant that I would have had to work another 10 to 15 years to save up the necessary resources. And what I've learned in the last 6 years in the Dominican is that even if I cannot afford to buy a new car every three years or find the newest tablet or Android phone every 18 months, I now realize that the best things in life are not things. I would not have traded the 15 years that I will end up enjoying my life here in the Dominican for 15 years of hard work back in Montreal only to be able to afford a condo in Florida.
As you can all surmise, I have never been happier and I am constantly reminded by my friends back home that I am the "smartest guy that they know" for having traded the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with joyous people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty.
And this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we all enjoy when it comes to chicas.
For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.
Tempoecorto
10-30-13, 18:19
1. I agree with you and have adjusted my thinking accordingly.Like others, I am a little surprised that after your long travel experience, you sound this paranoid.
1) I used to live in Singapore in a gated expat community and my 3 bedroom apartment with garden got broken into and burgled. Interestingly, the cops got me back a few things from the loot. After about a year. This can happen in all places as you mention but a little bit of prudent behavior can go a long way I presume, whether you are in Four Seasons or in a shack. One of which is keeping your wits about by not getting stone drunk. In a club or in your room with someone.
2) Paying the girl when she gets to your place is the best bet as others stated. I have paid people by sending money in advance but that is a more complex venture. Certainly do-able but also remember no guarantees she will show up after getting the money. It happened to me. Yes! Reagan said it best. Speaking of cold war era: trust but verify!
2) The DR is like any other place and you seem to know South America which was not the case with me when I first landed there. There are plenty of poor people but they are not all thieves. As a matter of fact I am not sure if a bulky 17" laptop is at all attractive as most are more used to cell phones and now tablets etc. You see, email is not very popular but texting is. In any case, like most people here on the forum, I leave my netbook on top of the table and never has this been touched even by the cleaning persons.
3) On many occasions, I have left a woman inside the room who wanted to watch TV, while I was out. And there was no safe inside the room but I never leave anything around to tempt anyone either. Obviously this after I know the person better and not with a first timer. It is a judgment call but I presume, you have plenty of that given your life / travel experiences. Treating the other person with kindness / respect has always gone a long way for me. In the DR or in Indonesia or in Oslo or Frankfurt.
Enjoy the trip!
Charles Pooter
10-30-13, 19:37
1. I agree with you and have adjusted my thinking accordingly.
2. I am going to be in the area for 4 weeks, including stays at a resort in Playa Doradas and maybe Cabarete. So, I need to mix it up some, with a few non-pros (at least ones I believe are non-pros) , ones I connect with, have spoken with and have messaged back and forth for weeks. One coming from San Crustobal who has never asked me for a dime and is studying civil engineering, but also a model and works the booths at trade shows. I am sure she is not innocent or inexperienced, but at least she has never asked me for anything. I believe legit. Another who is a medical student in Santiago. Only wants money for transport. I have perused their Facebook sites well and feel they are not lying and are legit. That does not mean that I could be wrong! I just am the type that likes legitimate college girls who are intelligent, have a brain, study etc. Not in lieu of, but in addition to the chicas at BB and those that hang out in the Sodua bars. So, it is desire to experiment and have a mix of chicas, not just in terms of their appearance but also their intelligence. Yes, I know I am bit crazy and maybe even stupid. But you know the saying, nothing ventured, nothing gained! And no, I am not looking to fall in have, have a novia, or pay them long distance. I am pretty objective and rational when it comes to decisions about people. And I know myself, or at least think I do!Never thought you are crazy or stupid. I know you could teach many of us here, certainly myself, a few things about life and wise decisions.
Four weeks is a good stretch and it is great idea to mix it up and try different experiences. But if you have to start fussing about how the chicas can get to a location it suggests you are not dealing with "intelligent chicas who have a brain". It would be fair comment about some innocent from the campo who has never met a gringo, but you won't meet one like that on Cupid and they wouldn't be able to read or write, let alone study at college.
The other point is, if you are not looking "to fall in love, have a novia, or pay them long distance", what is in it for them? You don't seem the type of guy who would deliberately con a chica with promises for the future only to leave her high and dry. The only sensible answer I can think of is you give them a good time (but they would all have a better time at home with Dominicans of their own age) and MONEY. And a chica who travels a distance to sleep with a middle-aged man (who has no interest in pursuing a longer relationship) for money is a puta in my book.
The other point is, if you are not looking "to fall in love, have a novia, or pay them long distance", what is in it for them? You don't seem the type of guy who would deliberately con a chica with promises for the future only to leave her high and dry. The only sensible answer I can think of is you give them a good time (but they would all have a better time at home with Dominicans of their own age) and MONEY. And a chica who travels a distance to sleep with a middle-aged man (who has no interest in pursuing a longer relationship) for money is a puta in my book.You make some excellent and logical points Charles! Okay, I will reflect on all of that some more! And, no I am not looking to con anyone. I have made things clear about my intentions. Told them matrimonio is not an option and not included in my Cupido profile etc. But yes for showing them a good time, shopping with them and gifts I am bringing for them etc! And, no I Not expect them to fall in love with me either. I think just 2-3 days of fun together. And yes they probably are doing because I can spend some dinero, and maybe a slightly different experience than they are used to with their local guys.
ChicasaurusRex
11-01-13, 00:57
Hey guys,
Haven't posted here in a while. Took a break from the DR and made a few runs at Colombia. Had a great time, please check out my report on the Medellin thread if you get a chance. I am reaching out to you guys to see if anyone has stayed at any of these villas or condos from this site and if so could recommend one that is chica friendly. Love a few of the places in gated communities but wondering whether they might have a problem with me bringing chicas into the community.
BTW will be there in Sosua with my buddy in early December and if anyone is going to be around would love to meet up and have a few beers and swap a few stories. Here is the website which I got from either this or the Santo Domingo thread.Has anyone on the board stayed at a place on this website?
http://www.homeaway.com/search/dominican-republic/sosua/region:7950/minBedrooms/2/page:3
Pura Vida,
C-Rex
Riky Rapido
11-02-13, 22:51
Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in. Before I get into my own spin on life here, I felt that a quick synopsis of my situation would clarify from which perspective I am coming from. I am a Canadian by birth and spent the first 50 years of my life in Montreal. Being self employed in the management and ownership of a private, capital asset portfolio, I lived under enormous stress. But with the advantages of building up a level of financial security that allowed me to retire at the age of 50. Having had purchased a house in the DR 10 years earlier as a vacation home, I already was familiar with both the advantages and pitfalls of life in the Dominican when I elected to leave Canada and make the DR my new home.
Having resources that not everyone is privy to, I bought a new home. A fairly large estate in the mountains, less than 10 minutes from Puerto Plata. I live on a property that is about an acre of grass and mature trees and flowers, all behind a privacy wall. The house is a 4 bedroom. 5 bathroom, edifice and the grounds have a huge swimming pool, an outdoor Jacuzzi, numerous paved walkways and ample space to grow my own vegetable garden (which is enclosed in a concrete well to hide it from view) as well as numerous fruit trees. The view is a spectacular vista of the entire Puerto Plata port, the ocean and the city below. Although the estate was not cheap by any standards. In North America I would have had to start a Ponzi scheme and steal millions to be able to afford it. I would never, regardless of how long I worked, ever have lived in a house like this back home. I have the room to have 8 dogs, all of whom have the benefit of ample space to run and play.
As the grounds need constant maintenance, I employ a full time employee to do nothing but mow the lawns, trim all the bushes, care for the trees and flowers, etc. He also feeds the dogs and picks up after them so that the grass is always clean. To help keep the house clean, I have a Dominican woman come in three days a week to do the housekeeping and laundry. Both employees make less per month than I paid my cleaning lady in Canada to come in twice a week. And I overpay by a significant amount compared to other ex-pats that I know. The electricity bill is my biggest expense, but if you factor in the fact that I pay no real estate taxes (as I live outside Puerto Plata in an unincorporated section of San Marcos) , what I spend to maintain the house, pay the electricity, pay all the staff expenses, buy gasoline for my generator and new batteries for my inverter every two years, clean and purchase chemicals for the pool and cover the house insurance invoice. All this costs less than I paid for municipal taxes alone back in Montreal. On a middle class budget, to be honest, in the Dominican I live like a rock star.
As for the inconveniences of living in a Third World country, there are trials and tribulations. But life back in Canada has its own issues. I personally would gladly endure the drawbacks of maintaining and dealing with redundant electrical sources in return for never having to deal with winter. Making sure that the inverter works and that I have ample gasoline for the generator in case the batteries die during long power outages are nothing compared to having to deal with winter tires, snow, impossible to traverse roads covered with black ice and, to be honest, the fucking cold.
In Canada I admit that I had a larger supply of art and culture, but even that is less of an issue for someone who returns back to "civilization" about twice a year. Furthermore, as the DR has pretty decent Internet, and my moral compass when it comes to intellectual property is somewhat skewed, I download all of the high-def television and movies that I want and watch them on a large, flat screen TV that is attached to a surround sound system. I can get all the books that I want on my semi-annual visit and e-mail and a VOIP telephone line (Vonage) allow me to keep in constant contact with my family and friends back home.
My personal dietary habits are another reason that I am so gloriously content here. I eat almost no red meat (not any religious fervor, just a matter of taste). But have always loved chicken and fish. The chicken here is awesome, unbelievably fresh and clearly tastes like it is devoid of the steroids and chemicals that are introduced into the North American feed that is used to grow chickens back home. In Canada, avocados were a guilty pleasure that comprised an expensive part of my weekly grocery order, while here they're as cheap as apples back in Canada. I can get all of the fresh fruit that I want, I can grow my own vegetables the way that suits me and most of the imported, canned and packaged goods that cost so much here were never part of my grocery order back in Montreal, regardless of the cost is in either place.
Instead of howling, winter winds from December to April, I now eat outside by the pool every night, even if it's raining (as I have a lovely gazebo) and enjoy the view and the weather. The need to fill my life with artificial stimulation has been overtaken by the simple pleasures of dining with my wife as the sun sets and talking about our day and life in general. All of this can be done on my budget. And easily. Something that would never have been possible in Canada. Had I even wanted to consider a more "civilized" place like Florida, to live even half as well as I do now would have meant that I would have had to work another 10 to 15 years to save up the necessary resources. And what I've learned in the last 6 years in the Dominican is that even if I cannot afford to buy a new car every three years or find the newest tablet or Android phone every 18 months, I now realize that the best things in life are not things. I would not have traded the 15 years that I will end up enjoying my life here in the Dominican for 15 years of hard work back in Montreal only to be able to afford a condo in Florida.
As you can all surmise, I have never been happier and I am constantly reminded by my friends back home that I am the "smartest guy that they know" for having traded the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with joyous people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty.
And this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we all enjoy when it comes to chicas.
For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.You took the words right off my.keyboard. It doesn't get better than this-up North.
Charles Pooter
11-02-13, 23:14
. here [avocados are] as cheap as apples back in Canada.Yes, but apples are as expensive as avocados were back in the UK. (And they are crap).
Tempoecorto
11-03-13, 03:58
Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in.
For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.That was a lovely note. Insightful and contemplative. I certainly would not care for one dog let alone 8 (I presume there is a security angle there) dogs or a large pool but it set me up longing for the simple pleasures. Food to start with.
Question: How risky is it even if your property is behind high walls. To be perceived prosperous?
Thank you.
Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR,For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.Sounds great, P. I am an American planning a similar retirement strategy in the PI in a few years. Curious, you don't say anything about the DR women. Do you have a bevy of beauties to come visit you?
I have never been happier and I am constantly reminded by my friends back home that I am the "smartest guy that they know" for having traded the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with joyous people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty. For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.Great way to put things in perspective!
Manizales911
11-08-13, 14:49
A friend of mine told me that there is a new h00ker bar or strip club on the malecon somewhere, anybody hear of it?
Charles Pooter
11-08-13, 22:43
A friend of mine told me that there is a new h00ker bar or strip club on the malecon somewhere, anybody hear of it?Unless it is brand new, the only one I know is "The Secret Nightclub". It opened about three months ago, and is not exactly on the Malecon but on the left 50 yards going south up Francisco Caamano (former Avenida Colon).
I only entered once, a couple of months ago with visiting Brits. It is like Doctor Who's Tardis, much bigger inside than it looks outside, but that was not a good thing as it only emphasised the desolate emptiness of the place. We went about 11. 00pm on Saturday night so you would think that would be peak time for them. We were the only customers. There were only two chicas, one butt-ugly, the other doable if you were desperate but there is never a need to be that desperate even in Puerto Plata. The place is painted all black with the cheapest possible furnishing and decor.
We quickly left for our first visit to the Cocoa Club (formerly El Bohen) , two hundred yards further south on the right. That was closed at about 11. 30pm on a Saturday night. Strange?
Then to D'Esteban (formerly Babylon). Again, totally deserted so we walked straight out. The waiter asked us to wait a minute and he would dig some chicas out from the back rooms but I never like to do that. Firstly I don't like to feel obligated and second if they are so demoralized that they cannot show in the club during what was always peak hours of the week, it doesn't bode well.
Finally to old reliable, La Embajada (formerly El Consulado. I guess they thought that having paid for a paint-job they would award themselves a promotion). As ever that was packed and lively, with reasonably priced drinks. I used to live nearby and popped in several times a week looking for fresh meat. I picked up some nice and cheap newbies to the game there but if you just go once on the off-chance you are likely to see only the sort of ageing fat uglies that Dominican tigueres seem to prefer, unless you are very lucky. We didn't stay long enough to see if they still did the hourly strip spot. I guess so. Best I ever saw there was the chica who could blow smoke rings out of her fanny.
Although just one evening could be an unrepresentative sample it does accord with my assessment that the club scene in Pto Pta is dead, at least for gringos. There is always Cristal, but who wants to pay those prices and suffer that deafening racket?
But for picking up non-pros and semi-pros, Puerto Plata knocks Sosua out of the park. That is why I chose to live here, not there.
Manizales911
11-09-13, 00:14
Unless it is brand new, the only one I know is "The Secret Nightclub". It opened about three months ago, and is not exactly on the Malecon but on the left 50 yards going south up Francisco Caamano (former Avenida Colon).That is the place, a couple of my friends were going to make the trip tonight from Sosua to check it out but I told them not to bother. Thanks as always Sir Charles.
Charles Pooter
11-09-13, 00:35
That is the place, a couple of my friends were going to make the trip tonight from Sosua to check it out but I told them not to bother.Always possible it has picked up a bit, but I cannot imagine it ever being worth a trip from Sosua.
But maybe Frannie or Riki Rapido will give it a glowing report?
It's a precious resource that many nurture as best they can. Bravo. My thoughts exactly.
Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in. Before I get into my own spin on life here, I felt that a quick synopsis of my situation would clarify from which perspective I am coming from. I am a Canadian by birth and spent the first 50 years of my life in Montreal. Being self employed in the management and ownership of a private, capital asset portfolio, I lived under enormous stress. But with the advantages of building up a level of financial security that allowed me to retire at the age of 50. Having had purchased a house in the DR 10 years earlier as a vacation home, I already was familiar with both the advantages and pitfalls of life in the Dominican when I elected to leave Canada and make the DR my new home.
Having resources that not everyone is privy to, I bought a new home. A fairly large estate in the mountains, less than 10 minutes from Puerto Plata. I live on a property that is about an acre of grass and mature trees and flowers, all behind a privacy wall. The house is a 4 bedroom. 5 bathroom, edifice and the grounds have a huge swimming pool, an outdoor Jacuzzi, numerous paved walkways and ample space to grow my own vegetable garden (which is enclosed in a concrete well to hide it from view) as well as numerous fruit trees. The view is a spectacular vista of the entire Puerto Plata port, the ocean and the city below. Although the estate was not cheap by any standards. In North America I would have had to start a Ponzi scheme and steal millions to be able to afford it. I would never, regardless of how long I worked, ever have lived in a house like this back home. I have the room to have 8 dogs, all of whom have the benefit of ample space to run and play...
For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.Nice report
I'm not ready to make similar move yet.
However, may be in a few years I will be considering spending 6-9 months per year in DR.
Any recommendations on how to explore such option during short trips?
Having read the numerous postings on the board about living in the DR, I thought that now would be the time to pipe in. Before I get into my own spin on life here, I felt that a quick synopsis of my situation would clarify from which perspective I am coming from. I am a Canadian by birth and spent the first 50 years of my life in Montreal. Being self employed in the management and ownership of a private, capital asset portfolio, I lived under enormous stress. But with the advantages of building up a level of financial security that allowed me to retire at the age of 50. Having had purchased a house in the DR 10 years earlier as a vacation home, I already was familiar with both the advantages and pitfalls of life in the Dominican when I elected to leave Canada and make the DR my new home.
Having resources that not everyone is privy to, I bought a new home. A fairly large estate in the mountains, less than 10 minutes from Puerto Plata. I live on a property that is about an acre of grass and mature trees and flowers, all behind a privacy wall. The house is a 4 bedroom. 5 bathroom, edifice and the grounds have a huge swimming pool, an outdoor Jacuzzi, numerous paved walkways and ample space to grow my own vegetable garden (which is enclosed in a concrete well to hide it from view) as well as numerous fruit trees. The view is a spectacular vista of the entire Puerto Plata port, the ocean and the city below. Although the estate was not cheap by any standards. In North America I would have had to start a Ponzi scheme and steal millions to be able to afford it. I would never, regardless of how long I worked, ever have lived in a house like this back home. I have the room to have 8 dogs, all of whom have the benefit of ample space to run and play.
As the grounds need constant maintenance, I employ a full time employee to do nothing but mow the lawns, trim all the bushes, care for the trees and flowers, etc. He also feeds the dogs and picks up after them so that the grass is always clean. To help keep the house clean, I have a Dominican woman come in three days a week to do the housekeeping and laundry. Both employees make less per month than I paid my cleaning lady in Canada to come in twice a week. And I overpay by a significant amount compared to other ex-pats that I know. The electricity bill is my biggest expense, but if you factor in the fact that I pay no real estate taxes (as I live outside Puerto Plata in an unincorporated section of San Marcos) , what I spend to maintain the house, pay the electricity, pay all the staff expenses, buy gasoline for my generator and new batteries for my inverter every two years, clean and purchase chemicals for the pool and cover the house insurance invoice. All this costs less than I paid for municipal taxes alone back in Montreal. On a middle class budget, to be honest, in the Dominican I live like a rock star.
As for the inconveniences of living in a Third World country, there are trials and tribulations. But life back in Canada has its own issues. I personally would gladly endure the drawbacks of maintaining and dealing with redundant electrical sources in return for never having to deal with winter. Making sure that the inverter works and that I have ample gasoline for the generator in case the batteries die during long power outages are nothing compared to having to deal with winter tires, snow, impossible to traverse roads covered with black ice and, to be honest, the fucking cold.
In Canada I admit that I had a larger supply of art and culture, but even that is less of an issue for someone who returns back to "civilization" about twice a year. Furthermore, as the DR has pretty decent Internet, and my moral compass when it comes to intellectual property is somewhat skewed, I download all of the high-def television and movies that I want and watch them on a large, flat screen TV that is attached to a surround sound system. I can get all the books that I want on my semi-annual visit and e-mail and a VOIP telephone line (Vonage) allow me to keep in constant contact with my family and friends back home.
My personal dietary habits are another reason that I am so gloriously content here. I eat almost no red meat (not any religious fervor, just a matter of taste). But have always loved chicken and fish. The chicken here is awesome, unbelievably fresh and clearly tastes like it is devoid of the steroids and chemicals that are introduced into the North American feed that is used to grow chickens back home. In Canada, avocados were a guilty pleasure that comprised an expensive part of my weekly grocery order, while here they're as cheap as apples back in Canada. I can get all of the fresh fruit that I want, I can grow my own vegetables the way that suits me and most of the imported, canned and packaged goods that cost so much here were never part of my grocery order back in Montreal, regardless of the cost is in either place.
Instead of howling, winter winds from December to April, I now eat outside by the pool every night, even if it's raining (as I have a lovely gazebo) and enjoy the view and the weather. The need to fill my life with artificial stimulation has been overtaken by the simple pleasures of dining with my wife as the sun sets and talking about our day and life in general. All of this can be done on my budget. And easily. Something that would never have been possible in Canada. Had I even wanted to consider a more "civilized" place like Florida, to live even half as well as I do now would have meant that I would have had to work another 10 to 15 years to save up the necessary resources. And what I've learned in the last 6 years in the Dominican is that even if I cannot afford to buy a new car every three years or find the newest tablet or Android phone every 18 months, I now realize that the best things in life are not things. I would not have traded the 15 years that I will end up enjoying my life here in the Dominican for 15 years of hard work back in Montreal only to be able to afford a condo in Florida.
As you can all surmise, I have never been happier and I am constantly reminded by my friends back home that I am the "smartest guy that they know" for having traded the North American rat race and the associated, endless chase for the newest toy for a life of peace, tranquility and gorgeous weather in a country filled with joyous people whose passion for life transcends their everyday poverty.
And this doesn't even address the numerous opportunities that we all enjoy when it comes to chicas.
For the right person with the proper perspective, the Dominican truly is paradise.
Guys, in a few days, I'm going to stay at Lifestyle Tropical again (can't beat these crazy rates). I have been building courage to go ahead and rent a car this time, but chickened out in the end. Hearing all these old horror stories mixed with new horror stories have convinced me not to ask for more aggravation for my own money. So I would appreciate if you could give me a few pointers.
What are the current "legit" cab fares for these destinations and back:
1. Puerto Plata airport to Lifestyle (Cofresy)
2. Lifestyle (Ocean World). Field of Dream
3. Lifestyle. Sosua (the beach area)
4. Lifestyle. Aerial tram.
Does anyone know if I can rent an ST room at Field of Dream? Also if you know a reliable cabby please let me know too. Thanks.
Charles Pooter
11-17-13, 05:39
Guys, in a few days, I'm going to stay at Lifestyle Tropical again (can't beat these crazy rates). I have been building courage to go ahead and rent a car this time, but chickened out in the end. Hearing all these old horror stories mixed with new horror stories have convinced me not to ask for more aggravation for my own money. So I would appreciate if you could give me a few pointers.
What are the current "legit" cab fares for these destinations and back:
1. Puerto Plata airport to Lifestyle (Cofresy)
2. Lifestyle (Ocean World). Field of Dream
3. Lifestyle. Sosua (the beach area)
4. Lifestyle. Aerial tram.
Does anyone know if I can rent an ST room at Field of Dream? Also if you know a reliable cabby please let me know too. Thanks.You can rent a room ST at FoD if one is unoccupied. Normally not a problem except on American Public Holidays, SuperBowl, etc. Last I heard the rate was 800 pesos.
There are no fixed rates for cabs and they don't have meters. You have to negotiate. Expensive way to travel for a single person. (Cheap enough with four sharing as they charge per mile, not per person). Then you have to add the charges for short-time rooms on top.
Are you sure it wouldn't have been cheaper just to stay at Field of Dreams? Certainly more fun. From Field of Dreams you could do Sosua by publico for 50 pesos each way. From Lifestyle by private cab, maybe 1500 pesos each way.
You don't mention Blackbeards. That is quite near Cofresi.
Traveler04
11-17-13, 14:27
A much debated topic. First, Blackbeards (BB) and Field of Dreams (FOD) have rooms to rent short time if available. I have done that at both places. In my case I rented a room for 24 hours (day rate) so I could come and go as I pleased. It was a nice break.
I usually rent a car and have done so over 20 times in the past 9 years. I like the freedom vs the risk. That said I have also enjoyed not being at the mercy of the Taxi Cab driver. At BB's a taxi costs more than anywhere I have been but the flip side is they are there any time you need one and I have found them to be very reliable. At FOD's the cost of a Taxi is less expensive as they will negotiate plus as Charles said there are other transportation options.
Here is my take on driving in POP. From the Airport to FOD very easy low risk on the main roads during the day. From FOD"s to BB's can at times be crazy as there is a lot of traffic most of the time, many roads merging, numerous traffic lights, motorcycles and pedestrians. At times their behavior would suggest that they have a death wish. From BB's west toward Ocean World not very stressful.
I am willing to take the challenge of driving during the day and at night only if I have not or will not be drinking. With alcohol the risk is far to great vs. The reward. When I look at the cost of renting a car and making sure I have the extra insurance I budget $55. 00 per day. It may cost less but that is the figure I use. Then I try and ball park the daily expense using a taxi would be and the number of days. I also look at the normal cost of transportation to and from the Airport. This is normally $50. 00 (I maybe off here a little and it is less if you are traveling with others) each way if I am at BB's less other places. The last part is how familiar you are with directions to and from various places and your Spanish if you need directions.
Just some things to think about.
A much debated topic. First, Blackbeards (BB) and Field of Dreams (FOD) have rooms to rent short time if available. I have done that at both places. In my case I rented a room for 24 hours (day rate) so I could come and go as I pleased. It was a nice break.
I usually rent a car and have done so over 20 times in the past 9 years. I like the freedom vs the risk. That said I have also enjoyed not being at the mercy of the Taxi Cab driver. At BB's a taxi costs more than anywhere I have been but the flip side is they are there any time you need one and I have found them to be very reliable. At FOD's the cost of a Taxi is less expensive as they will negotiate plus as Charles said there are other transportation options.
Here is my take on driving in POP. From the Airport to FOD very easy low risk on the main roads during the day. From FOD"s to BB's can at times be crazy as there is a lot of traffic most of the time, many roads merging, numerous traffic lights, motorcycles and pedestrians. At times their behavior would suggest that they have a death wish. From BB's west toward Ocean World not very stressful.
I am willing to take the challenge of driving during the day and at night only if I have not or will not be drinking. With alcohol the risk is far to great vs. The reward. When I look at the cost of renting a car and making sure I have the extra insurance I budget $55. 00 per day. It may cost less but that is the figure I use. Then I try and ball park the daily expense using a taxi would be and the number of days. I also look at the normal cost of transportation to and from the Airport. This is normally $50. 00 (I maybe off here a little and it is less if you are traveling with others) each way if I am at BB's less other places. The last part is how familiar you are with directions to and from various places and your Spanish if you need directions.
Just some things to think about.I have always rented a car. Met normal girls at many places and had a great time with them. Gives me the freedom to go to local places. Otherwise you are stuck in Sosua. Drving is not dangerous if you are used to drive in New york.
I have always rented a car. Met normal girls at many places and had a great time with them. Gives me the freedom to go to local places. Otherwise you are stuck in Sosua. Drving is not dangerous if you are used to drive in New york.Sammon, I'd almost worked up the courage to rent a car, but then I started reading stuff again, and talking to people, and then a Dominican guy from Cabarete who lives here in New York said that I've got to be crazy to drive on the North Coast. I just don't know if I really need the aggravation for my own money.
A much debated topic. First, Blackbeards (BB) and Field of Dreams (FOD) have rooms to rent short time if available. I have done that at both places. In my case I rented a room for 24 hours (day rate) so I could come and go as I pleased. It was a nice break.
I usually rent a car and have done so over 20 times in the past 9 years. I like the freedom vs the risk. That said I have also enjoyed not being at the mercy of the Taxi Cab driver. At BB's a taxi costs more than anywhere I have been but the flip side is they are there any time you need one and I have found them to be very reliable. At FOD's the cost of a Taxi is less expensive as they will negotiate plus as Charles said there are other transportation options.
Here is my take on driving in POP. From the Airport to FOD very easy low risk on the main roads during the day. From FOD"s to BB's can at times be crazy as there is a lot of traffic most of the time, many roads merging, numerous traffic lights, motorcycles and pedestrians. At times their behavior would suggest that they have a death wish. From BB's west toward Ocean World not very stressful.
I am willing to take the challenge of driving during the day and at night only if I have not or will not be drinking. With alcohol the risk is far to great vs. The reward. When I look at the cost of renting a car and making sure I have the extra insurance I budget $55. 00 per day. It may cost less but that is the figure I use. Then I try and ball park the daily expense using a taxi would be and the number of days. I also look at the normal cost of transportation to and from the Airport. This is normally $50. 00 (I maybe off here a little and it is less if you are traveling with others) each way if I am at BB's less other places. The last part is how familiar you are with directions to and from various places and your Spanish if you need directions.
Just some things to think about.Traveler, thanks for detailed answer. I also figured about $60 a day including that get-out-of-jail-insurance, never can remember, Conductar something. Since we don't expect leaving the resort every day (maybe 4 days) , then in a week we'd have paid about $400 for 3 days of car travel minus $100 for the rides to and from POP.
I think some of these trips would be relatively easy to use a collectivo (or is it gua-gua?). I remember it was easy to flag down a minivan at the resort to Puerto Plata, and I had it all to myself. Then another one to Sosua where they would keep placing more and more people on my lap was nothing short of torture.
So, financially, it might be a wash, and by renting a car I would essentially be paying for freedom from extortionist local cabbies. Then again, it would also take away a freedom to have a drink or two whenever I feel like it.
You can rent a room ST at FoD if one is unoccupied. Normally not a problem except on American Public Holidays, SuperBowl, etc. Last I heard the rate was 800 pesos.
There are no fixed rates for cabs and they don't have meters. You have to negotiate. Expensive way to travel for a single person. (Cheap enough with four sharing as they charge per mile, not per person). Then you have to add the charges for short-time rooms on top.
Are you sure it wouldn't have been cheaper just to stay at Field of Dreams? Certainly more fun. From Field of Dreams you could do Sosua by publico for 50 pesos each way. From Lifestyle by private cab, maybe 1500 pesos each way.
You don't mention Blackbeards. That is quite near Cofresi.Charles, I didn't mention BB because I know how to get there (you helped me last year). I'm planning 4 trips total: To BB, Fields of Dream, Sosua (to enjoy the beach and maybe score an ST with a girl locally, and to ride a tram to the top of Isabelle de Torres (forgive me if my spelling is wrong). Maybe I could combine a tram with the visit to FOD? I realize I'd have to negotiate, but I just want to know my options. Whenever possible, I'd like to avoid motoconchos, 'cause they really give me chills.
I don't think it would be cheaper to stay at FOD or elsewhere. I'm paying $18 at Lifestyle, and that includes all food and top-shelf drinks. And such an easy access to alcohol means there is a still a chance to score with a gringo girl (well, woman) even for an ogre like me.
Where is the easiest stop to change money on the way from the airport to Lifestyle (Cofresy)?
Thanks a lot for your tips, guys.
Charles Pooter
11-18-13, 00:23
I think some of these trips would be relatively easy to use a collectivo (or is it gua-gua?). I remember it was easy to flag down a minivan at the resort to Puerto Plata, and I had it all to myself. Then another one to Sosua where hey would keep placing more and more people on my lap was nothing short of torture.Where possible take a carrito publico (shared compact car) rather than a guagua (small bus or people-carrier van). They are quicker and don't make so many stops. If you take one from the terminus in Puerto Plata or Sosua you can buy two seats (preferably the whole front seat) which will solve your squashing problem. Cost you double but still ridiculously cheap compared with a private taxi. Of course you cannot do that coming from Cofresi but that is just a short trip anyway.
Maybe I could combine a tram with the visit to FOD?I never heard "tram" before. Locally it is called the Teleferico. You will need a taxi or moto to get there.
Yes, it would be ideal to combine that with a visit to Field of Dreams because the best time to go up the Teleferico is normally early morning, while FOD is dead in the mornings (and often dead in the afternoons too).
Get to the Teleferico half-hour before the first ride or you might be stuck in a queue with dozens of Dominican children. If you think a packed guagua is torture, wait until you experience that! Do not go up the Teleferico unless it is a mainly clear morning and the top is completely clear. There is nothing to see up there, so the only attraction is the ride and the view from the top. Your time and money will be wasted if there is cloud up there. If it is clear before 9. 00am it will likely stay clear for a couple of hours. Later in the day the sky can change in minutes. If you take a chica, do not let her near the souvenir shop. Everything costs double what it does in the town below. It if is fresh below it can be quite chilly up top so take an extra layer.
I'd like to avoid motoconchos, 'cause they really give me chills.They are not so bad. I must had 6000/7000 rides by now and only one accident, and that was not with a licensed one.
I don't think it would be cheaper to stay at FOD or elsewhere. I'm paying $18 at Lifestyle, and that includes all food and top-shelf drinks.You knocked my comment out of the ball-park with that price. How can they make that pay? Hoping to sell time-shares?
Where is the easiest stop to change money on the way from the airport to Lifestyle (Cofresy)?There is a branch of RUSA on your route. It is on the main road on the corner of the road leading to the barrio of Padre Granero. Easy to spot because it is to the right of the big green space in front of the big baseball stadium.
Only problem is, it is a small branch so may not observe long opening hours. If you go past during office hours you will be alright. They may ask to see your passport. The girl once told me they stay open to 7. 00pm but I wouldn't bank on it. Reputable company and the favourite with ex-pats.
I have always rented a car. Met normal girls at many places and had a great time with them. Gives me the freedom to go to local places. Otherwise you are stuck in Sosua. Drving is not dangerous if you are used to drive in New york.I agree totally. Just rent a car bro. The trick is to minimize your driving, because like other members have said, you don't want to be tempted to drive drunk, or be the victim of a crazy motorcyclist.
I used the car to move my home base every 2 nights. The DR isn't THAT interesting as a tourist destination. Best to give yourself the flexibility to move around and try different things (and venues!).
Get to the Teleferico half-hour before the first ride or you might be stuck in a queue with dozens of Dominican children. If you think a packed guagua is torture, wait until you experience that!I generally find the Dominican schoolchildren to be very charming and well-behaved.
Where possible take a carrito publico (shared compact car) rather than a guagua (small bus or people-carrier van). They are quicker and don't make so many stops. If you take one from the terminus in Puerto Plata or Sosua you can buy two seats (preferably the whole front seat) which will solve your squashing problem. Cost you double but still ridiculously cheap compared with a private taxi. Of course you cannot do that coming from Cofresi but that is just a short trip anyway.
I never heard "tram" before. Locally it is called the Teleferico. You will need a taxi or moto to get there.
Yes, it would be ideal to combine that with a visit to Field of Dreams because the best time to go up the Teleferico is normally early morning, while FOD is dead in the mornings (and often dead in the afternoons too).
Get to the Teleferico half-hour before the first ride or you might be stuck in a queue with dozens of Dominican children. If you think a packed guagua is torture, wait until you experience that! Do not go up the Teleferico unless it is a mainly clear morning and the top is completely clear. There is nothing to see up there, so the only attraction is the ride and the view from the top. Your time and money will be wasted if there is cloud up there. If it is clear before 9. 00am it will likely stay clear for a couple of hours. Later in the day the sky can change in minutes. If you take a chica, do not let her near the souvenir shop. Everything costs double what it does in the town below. It if is fresh below it can be quite chilly up top so take an extra layer.
They are not so bad. I must had 6000/7000 rides by now and only one accident, and that was not with a licensed one.
You knocked my comment out of the ball-park with that price. How can they make that pay? Hoping to sell time-shares?
There is a branch of RUSA on your route. It is on the main road on the corner of the road leading to the barrio of Padre Granero. Easy to spot because it is to the right of the big green space in front of the big baseball stadium.
Only problem is, it is a small branch so may not observe long opening hours. If you go past during office hours you will be alright. They may ask to see your passport. The girl once told me they stay open to 7. 00pm but I wouldn't bank on it. Reputable company and the favourite with ex-pats.Thanks so much for the tips.
1. To answer your question about Lifestyle. Yes, they are hoping to sell timeshare, and they can get very aggressive about it. Fortunately, I'm also very aggressive about making them take no for an answer. They have these ridiculous sales a few times a year. The best way to learn about them is to sign up for Travelzoo newsletter.
A couple more questions:
1. How can you tell whether a motoconcho is licensed or not?
2. When you say terminus in PP, is it that place near the hospital where they collect passengers to Sosua? Should I grab a moto or a cab to Telerifica there too?
3. Are these carrito publico marked in any way? Can I flag them on the street?
Thanks again. Your help is much appreciated.
Charles Pooter
11-18-13, 13:53
How can you tell whether a motoconcho is licensed or not?In Puerto Plata, they wear yellow plastic "waistcoats" with big numbers. Occasionally orange or even green. In the hot weather they sometimes wrap them round their handlebars as, being plastic, the sweat builds up inside. Of course it is no guarantee, as anyone could steal or borrow a jacket or, especially, continue to wear one once their licence has expired, but it helps to cut out a lot of the scabs.
They have just started to introduce this system in Sosua but I understand they are letting the sponsors choose different colors, which partly undermines the effectiveness.
Those who only know Sosua are rightly apprehensive of motos. I find the ones in Pto Pta to be generally a better breed. Rarely overcharge and more careful and helpful. Given a choice I go for an older one, preferably with a helmet and wing-mirrors.
When you say terminus in PP, is it that place near the hospital where they collect passengers to Sosua? Should I grab a moto or a cab to Telerifica there too?LOL."Telerifica" would be a good name for a promotional campaign.
Yes that is the place to catch a publico to FoD, the airport or Sosua, but not to the Teleferico.
From Cofesi you will need a private cab all the way, or take a publico, get out at the entrance road, and then take a moto up the hill to the Teleferico.
Are these carrito publico marked in any way? Can I flag them on the street?Yes, flag them down on the street. If full, they will whizz past. They are various colors according to which franchise and route. They all have little plastic name boxes on the roof. But so do some private cabs, so if one stops and is empty of passengers check it is a publico and not a private cab.
In Puerto Plata, they wear yellow plastic "waistcoats" with big numbers. Occasionally orange or even green. In the hot weather they sometimes wrap them round their handlebars as, being plastic, the sweat builds up inside. Of course it is no guarantee, as anyone could steal or borrow a jacket or, especially, continue to wear one once their licence has expired, but it helps to cut out a lot of the scabs.
They have just started to introduce this system in Sosua but I understand they are letting the sponsors choose different colors, which partly undermines the effectiveness.
Those who only know Sosua are rightly apprehensive of motos. I find the ones in Pto Pta to be generally a better breed. Rarely overcharge and more careful and helpful. Given a choice I go for an older one, preferably with a helmet and wing-mirrors.
LOL."Telerifica" would be a good name for a promotional campaign.
Yes that is the place to catch a publico to FoD, the airport or Sosua, but not to the Teleferico.
From Cofesi you will need a private cab all the way, or take a publico, get out at the entrance road, and then take a moto up the hill to the Teleferico.
Yes, flag them down on the street. If full, they will whizz past. They are various colors according to which franchise and route. They all have little plastic name boxes on the roof. But so do some private cabs, so if one stops and is empty of passengers check it is a publico and not a private cab.Thanks again, and yes, that would be a great promo name.
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