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Tempoecorto
02-01-15, 22:26
But come on. Those guys are from New York anyway.I presume you are referring to the singer's. Even if they were from NYC, they are non natives and are not known to mainstream but mostly in their circumscribed space. Julio Iglesias is another. Trying to break into Anglo music with Bailando. The anglos don't listen to these singers which is why the Colombian students were taken aback.
I presume you are referring to the singer's. Even if they were from NYC, they are non natives and are not known to mainstream but mostly in their circumscribed space. Julio Iglesias is another. Trying to break into Anglo music with Bailando. The anglos don't listen to these singers which is why the Colombian students were taken aback.Are we talking about Julio Iglesias the son? Julio Iglesias the father is one of the world's top selling recording artists of all time, right up there with people like Michael Jackson. He lives in the DR and owns Punta Cana airport, among other investments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KqHff8Lr20
Mr Enternational
02-02-15, 18:06
Are we talking about Julio Iglesias the son? Julio Iglesias the father is one of the world's top selling recording artists of all time, right up there with people like Michael Jackson. He lives in the DR and owns Punta Cana airport, among other investments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KqHff8Lr20I think he meant Enrique Iglesias who is popular with the mainstream. http://vimeo.com/18088457 Of course everybody knows Julio's To All the Girls I've Loved Before. By the way, Prince Royce and Romeo Santos are both native New Yorkers.
Tempoecorto
02-02-15, 21:43
I think he meant Enrique Iglesias who is popular with the mainstream. http://vimeo.com/18088457 Of course everybody knows Julio's To All the Girls I've Loved Before. By the way, Prince Royce and Romeo Santos are both native New Yorkers.Oops. Enrique it is! Thanks. If the other two are native New Yorkers. I certainly cannot make out by their accent, especially that of Romeo Santos who uses English in his songs. Indeed Enrique has better native accent than Romeo. To my mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8I-7Wk_Vbc
Going to POP in April with the family in an AI hotel, but possible to get away during the day (not evenings) any suggestions chaps, ie are the maids approachable, or are there any massage parlours that give a good service?
Manizales911
02-07-15, 16:47
I spent ten out of the last twelve weeks living in Puerto Plata and that was enough, not my cup of tea. I have been visiting the DR for ten years and have probably thirty trips under my belt but you really don't know a place until you live there.
I'll be the first to say that some of the issues that I had with living there were self induced so my experience may not be someone else's. For instance, I do not ride motoconchos, never have and never will, Pto Pta is spread out so you either love to take long walks or ride motos or spend a significant portion of your budget on taxis.
My favorite thing to do on the north shore is spend the day at Sosua beach having a couple beers, lunch and a swim. By living in Pto Pta I only went there once or twice a week as it was slightly inconvenient. I took a taxi to the parada then publico to Sosua beach and then publico to Pto Pta and got dropped off at the baseball stadium and walked home which after dark is dangerous but we did it. The reason I didn't pick up a publico in the same spot to go to Sosua is it is difficult to find a car with an open back seat and I would buy the entire back seat for me, my girl and her son, otherwise they would cram a fourth person in the back seat, fuck that.
I didn't mind taking the publico to Sosua and all that but it wasn't something I would do every other day but if I lived in Sosua I would most likely go to the beach that often. I originally thought about living in Sosua or the outskirts but my girl convinced me otherwise, she found a big place reasonably priced with "24 hour" electricity, quiet safe neighborhood etc. And I thought it would be great but in hindsight it was a big mistake on my part, I know that I would be happier in Sosua.
But at least now I can cross Pto Pta off my list and move on. I have come back to the states to regroup then it's back to Colombia for me, I will give Sosua a chance next fall or winter for three months and see how I like it. I know Pto Pta can't and I doubt Sosua can come even close to being as nice of a place to live as the coffee region of Colombia or Medellin for that matter. The one and only one thing that the DR has over Colombia is the beach, absolutely nothing else. But I love the beach so three months out of the year in Sosua would be fine if I can put up with all of the other bullshit, don't get me wrong, Colombia has its warts too but certainly not as many as the DR when it comes to living there, no doubt in my mind.
I kept track of every peso I spent during my almost three months time in Puerto Plata and am willing to share that info along with my opinions of Colombia versus the DR for living as I have already spent six months in Colombia and know what it's like living in both countries. YMMV, it is only my opinion, I am not interested in debating the issue with anyone that doesn't have the experience of doing it themselves.
Manizales911
02-07-15, 16:53
Going to POP in April with the family in an AI hotel, but possible to get away during the day (not evenings) any suggestions chaps, ie are the maids approachable, or are there any massage parlours that give a good service?Just take a taxi to FOD and get whatever service you want.
Hi Manizales, great report. Thanks for the information.
Radpoker.
I spent ten out of the last twelve weeks living in Puerto Plata and that was enough, not my cup of tea. I have been visiting the DR for ten years and have probably thirty trips under my belt but you really don't know a place until you live there.
I'll be the first to say that some of the issues that I had with living there were self induced so my experience may not be someone else's. For instance, I do not ride motoconchos, never have and never will, Pto Pta is spread out so you either love to take long walks or ride motos or spend a significant portion of your budget on taxis.
I kept track of every peso I spent during my almost three months time in Puerto Plata and am willing to share that info along with my opinions of Colombia versus the DR for living as I have already spent six months in Colombia and know what it's like living in both countries. YMMV, it is only my opinion, I am not interested in debating the issue with anyone that doesn't have the experience of doing it themselves.
Jay Balanty
02-09-15, 03:50
Hey,
Quick question guys. How much is a trip from BB's to the Malecon?
Also here is a real shot in the dark but. Does anyone know a taxi driver from Puerto Plata, he is younger, bald, kind of muscular and speaks amazing English? He gave me his number and was extremely reasonable for rides out of Costambar.
Charles Pooter
02-09-15, 17:08
Quick question guys. How much is a trip from BB's to the Malecon?400 pesos.
Going back, maybe 300 as Costambar taxis charge more.
Charles Pooter
02-09-15, 17:10
Just take a taxi to FOD and get whatever service you want.Unless you happen to be staying in one of the Riu hotels near Maimon, in which case take a taxi to Blackbeards.
Hey,
Quick question guys. How much is a trip from BB's to the Malecon?
Also here is a real shot in the dark but. Does anyone know a taxi driver from Puerto Plata, he is younger, bald, kind of muscular and speaks amazing English? He gave me his number and was extremely reasonable for rides out of Costambar.Sounds like you are describing Carlos. He unfortunately has been banned from entering Costombar by the Taxi Mafia. I have his # if you want.
Manizales911
02-09-15, 23:56
Sounds like you are describing Carlos. He unfortunately has been banned from entering Costombar by the Taxi Mafia. I have his # if you want.I never thought of Carlos as young OR muscular, a drunk, thief and scam artist, yes.
I never thought of Carlos as young OR muscular, a drunk, thief and scam artist, yes.If it is the same person we are talking about then he is young to me, as I am old. In my opinion he is muscular. As for, 'a drunk, thief and scam artist,' I have no idea.
RocheBrazi
02-15-15, 15:17
On the 6. October the first Cruise Ship will arrive. http://www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingambercovedominicanrepublic-06oct2015.html.
Many Passengers will going for a city tour, visit Pico isabel and do some other exursion stuff.
A lot cruise Daddys who are bored of their wife wants to get laid.
Sure all Taxistas and Hustlers have already Dollar signs in their eyes.
Alot chicas will have a itchy pussy waiting for that glory day.
All these 1 Day Tourists might increase the Tourism on the north coast. And prices might rise aswell.
OFC not all Cruise Toursist will leave the cruise ship or port but imagine only 10% of 5000 Passengers will. Thats 500 People with phat purses.
Husker Dude
02-15-15, 21:42
Sounds like you are describing Carlos. He unfortunately has been banned from entering Costombar by the Taxi Mafia. I have his # if you want.Actually Carlos s not banned from Costambar by the taxi mafia. He must however pick you up and take you to Costambar, to be able to take you out of there. I clarified it with him last week. Taxi mafia is just enforcing it more on pick ups in Costambar.
Jay Balanty
02-17-15, 17:37
Actually Carlos s not banned from Costambar by the taxi mafia. He must however pick you up and take you to Costambar, to be able to take you out of there. I clarified it with him last week. Taxi mafia is just enforcing it more on pick ups in Costambar.OK, thanks for the heads up. The name sounds familiar, maybe its him maybe not. The cost to go to the Malecon is not that bad so I guess I will just try my luck with the taxi mafia. Thanks for all the guys.
Jay Balanty
02-17-15, 19:12
I have been getting private messages from a few of you guys asking for more details about my issue with Julissa. I figured I will put this to bed right now and express my experience with her.
The first time I met her was in January of 2013. After breaking up with my Dominican ex, it was time to get back in the saddle. I arrived at BB's with fanfare of some of the young ladies I knew there. It felt great to be back. I check in, get my customary shit, shower and shave and head down to the action. Yakaira sits down with me to catch up and shoot the shit. I asked her who is new and who I should "visit". She pointed a few out. At that time the second shift was arriving. Yakaira specifically pointed out Julissa and said, you will not like her, she is no good. I was a bit taken back, but I did trust Yakaira since we went back a few years and we always chat while I am home so I kept her opinion in the back of my mind.
Yakaira had to go home as she worked the day shift and her time was up. I head to the bar and met some of the coolest guys ever, one of which was a cigar aficionado like myself. Great time bull shitting with these guys. It was time for the fashion show upstairs at the disco. Almost all of us head up there. I was sitting at the bar drinking a Jack on the rocks when I see Julissa checking me out, I smiled, she smiled, we flirted across the room a little bit. She came over and her command of English was a bit alarming. I say alarming because if Chica speaks that good of English she can manipulate an English speaking dude a lot easier than if she spoke broken English or no English at all. So my guard went up instantly.
We joked, drank and she latched herself to me. It was OK since I was fresh off the plane and ready for whatever also she didn't look bad. That's right, I said she didn't look bad, I think some guys make way bigger deal about her than what she really is. She is "marginal" but not this super model that some guys make her out to be. I digress.
We had a lot of fun at the disco that night and we did have a nice connection, however I did sense this arrogance about her that I didn't like. We took off to my room. The next hour was about as bland as boiled chicken. She didn't starfish completely, but it was pretty close. However, I was backed up for a while so it didn't take long. We joked around and chatted for a bit after and then I sent her home.
Next day she worked the night again, the day was fun as I got to sample the other talent. Come evening, it was all about Julissa. Which was OK, she was fun and flirty so why not. That night I decided to have her stay over. Mother o God cuddling and spooning while sleeping is all cute and everything but she snores and had this weird type of death grip spoon thing that she did. WORST night of sleep ever. However, how could you knock her for that? I didn't, I just smiled about it and thought wow she is a serious pro to be able to sleep like that.
To be honest with you guys the next few days were the same. No complaints at all. Until my last day. She was working during the day, she asks if this is my last day, I tell her it is. She got all sentimental and was like, I won't see you again? I said nope, sorry I leave tomorrow morning. So she says can you walk with me to the beach? I figured why not. We walk holding hands to the beach and she stops and turns around dead serious and says she really likes me and she likes talking to me and she does not want me to forget her. I told her I won't forget her, she then takes my phone and puts all her contact info in it (she has an iPhone too so she knew exactly what to do). Of course I tell her OK. I will call you and talk on skype but if you ask me for money for any reason even just once, I will block you and never speak to you again. (I tell any Chica this in order to vet them and weed out any blatant gold diggers) We walk back, I give her a hug and kiss and she leaves. The rest of my stay was enjoyable and fun as always.
I get home and we actually do chat for a while. She seemed like a sweet girl. After about 2 or 3 months of that, I actually started a relationship with a civilian locally. I told Julissa about her and she got pissed. She said, I thought I was your girlfriend. I told her I never said that, I also never implied that. She got so mad that she cut all contact with me. The on and off relationship with the civilian went nowhere. I decided to return to BB's a few months after ending it.
I get there and Julissa would not look at me or talk to me. I figured whatever, I'll take my pesos elsewhere. Therein lies the problem. All the chicas acted stand-offish to me. It was really uncomfortable and awkward. There was no fun to be had, everything felt different. Only until my second to last day did Pearla tell me that I was much nicer then what she heard. I was like WHAT? Then she proceeds to tell me Julissa was spreading vile rumors about me to all the girls, telling them to stay away from me. What the actual fuck! I felt like I wasted the $$ it took to get down to the DR, Stay at BB's, eat, drink and attempt to pay the chicas. I felt completely cheated because this crazy chick decided that she wanted to catch feelings or be mad that I wouldn't fall for her shit and become Mr. Sugar Daddy.
Fast forward 4 months, I decide to go to FOD which was a fucking nightmare (see my previous story\review on that place) but I did drop by BB's just to see what was up, Julissa stone walled me as expected, however I got to meet some of the fine upstanding gentlemen staying at the resort. They had questions about FOD which I gladly answered. They wanted to see for themselves. The next day they dropped by, cool guys. One of them said Julissa was harassing him. (I want to warn you, this is what I remember him saying, if this is your story and I got it wrong I apologize in advance) he said that he had a session with her and it was ok. But he wanted to move on. He said she went knocking on his door, chasing after him and then when he said he wanted someone else, she gave him the finger and stormed off.
I guess I should have said this before, but I am a younger guy and I take care of myself. The other guy relaying his story to me was similar. I do not know if that is directly related or not, just thought I would put it out there.
Now, I am heading back to BB in March and I am going to suck up my pride and talk to her. I want to smooth things over so I don't have a repeat of last time. I basically need to try and get her to forgive me? And then keep her at arm's length.
Now gentlemen. You see what I had to deal with, ask yourself, do you want this drama in your life? Is that the way you want to spend your vacation?
Take it from me, this chick was a nightmare and not worth a year of shitty vacationing in the beautiful DR. I also will say this: One apple can spoil the bunch, if this shit happens again, I am done with BB's until she retires, quits or gets fired. I guess there is always Sosua and Costa Rica. But I can't smoke my cigars in Costa Rica.
I have been getting private messages from a few of you guys asking for more details about my issue with Julissa. I figured I will put this to bed right now and express my experience with her.
The first time I met her was in January of 2013. After breaking up with my Dominican ex, it was time to get back in the saddle. I arrived at BB's with fanfare of some of the young ladies I knew there. It felt great to be back. I check in, get my customary shit, shower and shave and head down to the action. Yakaira sits down with me to catch up and shoot the shit. I asked her who is new and who I should "visit". She pointed a few out. At that time the second shift was arriving. Yakaira specifically pointed out Julissa and said, you will not like her, she is no good. I was a bit taken back, but I did trust Yakaira since we went back a few years and we always chat while I am home so I kept her opinion in the back of my mind.
Yakaira had to go home as she worked the day shift and her time was up. I head to the bar and met some of the coolest guys ever, one of which was a cigar aficionado like myself. Great time bull shitting with these guys. It was time for the fashion show upstairs at the disco. Almost all of us head up there. I was sitting at the bar drinking a Jack on the rocks when I see Julissa checking me out, I smiled, she smiled, we flirted across the room a little bit. She came over and her command of English was a bit alarming. I say alarming because if Chica speaks that good of English she can manipulate an English speaking dude a lot easier than if she spoke broken English or no English at all. So my guard went up instantly.
We joked, drank and she latched herself to me. It was OK since I was fresh off the plane and ready for whatever also she didn't look bad. That's right, I said she didn't look bad, I think some guys make way bigger deal about her than what she really is. She is "marginal" but not this super model that some guys make her out to be. I digress.
We had a lot of fun at the disco that night and we did have a nice connection, however I did sense this arrogance about her that I didn't like. We took off to my room. The next hour was about as bland as boiled chicken. She didn't starfish completely, but it was pretty close. However, I was backed up for a while so it didn't take long. We joked around and chatted for a bit after and then I sent her home.
Next day she worked the night again, the day was fun as I got to sample the other talent. Come evening, it was all about Julissa. Which was OK, she was fun and flirty so why not. That night I decided to have her stay over. Mother o God cuddling and spooning while sleeping is all cute and everything but she snores and had this weird type of death grip spoon thing that she did. WORST night of sleep ever. However, how could you knock her for that? I didn't, I just smiled about it and thought wow she is a serious pro to be able to sleep like that.
To be honest with you guys the next few days were the same. No complaints at all. Until my last day. She was working during the day, she asks if this is my last day, I tell her it is. She got all sentimental and was like, I won't see you again? I said nope, sorry I leave tomorrow morning. So she says can you walk with me to the beach? I figured why not. We walk holding hands to the beach and she stops and turns around dead serious and says she really likes me and she likes talking to me and she does not want me to forget her. I told her I won't forget her, she then takes my phone and puts all her contact info in it (she has an iPhone too so she knew exactly what to do). Of course I tell her OK. I will call you and talk on skype but if you ask me for money for any reason even just once, I will block you and never speak to you again. (I tell any Chica this in order to vet them and weed out any blatant gold diggers) We walk back, I give her a hug and kiss and she leaves. The rest of my stay was enjoyable and fun as always.
I get home and we actually do chat for a while. She seemed like a sweet girl. After about 2 or 3 months of that, I actually started a relationship with a civilian locally. I told Julissa about her and she got pissed. She said, I thought I was your girlfriend. I told her I never said that, I also never implied that. She got so mad that she cut all contact with me. The on and off relationship with the civilian went nowhere. I decided to return to BB's a few months after ending it.
I get there and Julissa would not look at me or talk to me. I figured whatever, I'll take my pesos elsewhere. Therein lies the problem. All the chicas acted stand-offish to me. It was really uncomfortable and awkward. There was no fun to be had, everything felt different. Only until my second to last day did Pearla tell me that I was much nicer then what she heard. I was like WHAT? Then she proceeds to tell me Julissa was spreading vile rumors about me to all the girls, telling them to stay away from me. What the actual fuck! I felt like I wasted the $$ it took to get down to the DR, Stay at BB's, eat, drink and attempt to pay the chicas. I felt completely cheated because this crazy chick decided that she wanted to catch feelings or be mad that I wouldn't fall for her shit and become Mr. Sugar Daddy.
Fast forward 4 months, I decide to go to FOD which was a fucking nightmare (see my previous story\review on that place) but I did drop by BB's just to see what was up, Julissa stone walled me as expected, however I got to meet some of the fine upstanding gentlemen staying at the resort. They had questions about FOD which I gladly answered. They wanted to see for themselves. The next day they dropped by, cool guys. One of them said Julissa was harassing him. (I want to warn you, this is what I remember him saying, if this is your story and I got it wrong I apologize in advance) he said that he had a session with her and it was ok. But he wanted to move on. He said she went knocking on his door, chasing after him and then when he said he wanted someone else, she gave him the finger and stormed off.
I guess I should have said this before, but I am a younger guy and I take care of myself. The other guy relaying his story to me was similar. I do not know if that is directly related or not, just thought I would put it out there.
Now, I am heading back to BB in March and I am going to suck up my pride and talk to her. I want to smooth things over so I don't have a repeat of last time. I basically need to try and get her to forgive me? And then keep her at arm's length.
Now gentlemen. You see what I had to deal with, ask yourself, do you want this drama in your life? Is that the way you want to spend your vacation?
Take it from me, this chick was a nightmare and not worth a year of shitty vacationing in the beautiful DR. I also will say this: One apple can spoil the bunch, if this shit happens again, I am done with BB's until she retires, quits or gets fired. I guess there is always Sosua and Costa Rica. But I can't smoke my cigars in Costa Rica.Did you ever report her to Mamasan Cristal or Capt. Tim? If I am paying airfare, airport parking or cab, taking time off from work, the BB room fee and finally the chicas themselves then I'll be damned if some puta is going to ruin my vacation. If all else fails then find a local chica from outside of BBs, bring her back to the compound and wife her up for your trip in front of Julissa and the other putas with plenty of PDA. If they don't like that then tough shit. Its your money and you are the man in charge.
Hey Jay, just my 2 cents. I understand your position, but just wanted you to offer a different point. Crystal and Julissa are very close. Not sure what you will get by talking with Crystal. Tim will just tell you to talk with the mamma-sans. If it was me I would not worry about her and have a great time. She can get pissed all she wants. Just start off and spend your time with different girls and be very nice. You sound like a great guy so this will not be hard at all. The girls will see and talk about how nice and good you are and will want to be with you. Most of them know Julissa tries to run the place. If you look around and watch the girls most stay clear of Julissa because they know how she is with them and customers. Stay clear she is not worth your trouble. Have fun.
Radpoker.
If so, Should we mind when chicas give us bad reviews. Guys always give review to the chicas. I have never imaged it works the other way too. LOL.
Hey Jay, just my 2 cents. I understand your position, but just wanted you to offer a different point. Crystal and Julissa are very close. Not sure what you will get by talking with Crystal. Tim will just tell you to talk with the mamma-sans. If it was me I would not worry about her and have a great time. She can get pissed all she wants. Just start off and spend your time with different girls and be very nice. You sound like a great guy so this will not be hard at all. The girls will see and talk about how nice and good you are and will want to be with you. Most of them know Julissa tries to run the place. If you look around and watch the girls most stay clear of Julissa because they know how she is with them and customers. Stay clear she is not worth your trouble. Have fun.
Radpoker.
Jay Balanty
02-18-15, 14:26
Julissa, Sheila and Crystal are all really close. Also Julissa is a BIG money maker for them, I figured my complaint would fall on deaf ears. Sheila is gone from what I hear and someone just private messaged me and told me he was at BB for 6 nights during the Super Bowl and didn't see her once. So I have hopes that I won't see her when I head out there in March.
To my understanding and from what the newsletter looks like, they had a pretty big turn over of chicas and there are a lot of new faces.
Hey Jay, just my 2 cents. I understand your position, but just wanted you to offer a different point. Crystal and Julissa are very close. Not sure what you will get by talking with Crystal. Tim will just tell you to talk with the mamma-sans. If it was me I would not worry about her and have a great time. She can get pissed all she wants. Just start off and spend your time with different girls and be very nice. You sound like a great guy so this will not be hard at all. The girls will see and talk about how nice and good you are and will want to be with you. Most of them know Julissa tries to run the place. If you look around and watch the girls most stay clear of Julissa because they know how she is with them and customers. Stay clear she is not worth your trouble. Have fun.
Radpoker.
Jay Balanty
02-18-15, 15:18
If so, Should we mind when chicas give us bad reviews. Guys always give review to the chicas. I have never imaged it works the other way too. LOL.Yeah, see here is the problem. Lets take the whole review vs customer and vice versa out of the equation. We all go to BB's, FOD, ect for 1 ultimate reason, however we all have some kind of sub plot to it. My sub plot is simple, dating in the states is full of bullshit and drama. Its all about appeasing to your girlfriends friends, family ect. You have to worry about saying the right thing and acting the right way. When I am at BB's I (usually) can finally relax and just enjoy the company of a woman without any of the drawbacks that I would normally have here in the states. If I wanted to worry about getting "reviewed" by a woman, I'll just stay home.
I finally went here and they had lots of desperate chicas. I am never interested in paying 75 to 100 us dollars so I left empty handed. I probably could have made a deal but it was not mine kind of place.
Women are every where in this country ready for you to help them and love them which if we think about it that is world wide the only difference here is they give you some in return and keep on giving as long as you do.
Has any one had a short time experience (ie not staying there) can you just rock up to the door and have a girl and room for a couple of hours? If so what's the approx costs? I am staying with a large group but hope to sneak away if possible.
Charles Pooter
02-27-15, 20:44
Has any one had a short time experience (ie not staying there) can you just rock up to the door and have a girl and room for a couple of hours? If so what's the approx costs? I am staying with a large group but hope to sneak away if possible.Yes, you can. I believe short-time with the chica would be 1600 pesos and the room (if available) 800 pesos. Please correct this, guys, if you have more recent info.
Only makes sense if you are staying nearby. Lifestyles?
Yes, you can. I believe short-time with the chica would be 1600 pesos and the room (if available) 800 pesos. Please correct this, guys, if you have more recent info.
Only makes sense if you are staying nearby. Lifestyles?That sounds about right. I did read somewhere the chica rates went up a little.
Has any one had a short time experience (ie not staying there) can you just rock up to the door and have a girl and room for a couple of hours? If so what's the approx costs? I am staying with a large group but hope to sneak away if possible.Provided rooms are available I believe a ST room can be had for 800 pesos. The girls cost 1,600 pesos but "happy hour" meaning two chicas working the cock together is available during the day for a slight discount of 3,000 pesos. BB's is open to the street and ex-pats not staying there walk in all the time to grab a beer or something to eat. During one of my stays a European family with teenage kids stopped in for brunch while the day shift girls were arriving for work around 11 AM. They weren't fazed a bit. I think they were Dutch or German. Not a problem.
Provided rooms are available I believe a ST room can be had for 800 pesos. The girls cost 1,600 pesos but "happy hour" meaning two chicas working the cock together is available during the day for a slight discount of 3,000 pesos. BB's is open to the street and ex-pats not staying there walk in all the time to grab a beer or something to eat. During one of my stays a European family with teenage kids stopped in for brunch while the day shift girls were arriving for work around 11 AM. They weren't fazed a bit. I think they were Dutch or German. Not a problem.I thought BB was "adults only"?
If you staying in Costambar, BB's restaurant is one of the best place to eat. I've tried probably all cafes and restaurants in Costambar, and except for sea food dishes, it's probably #1 choice.
I thought BB was "adults only"?
If you staying in Costambar, BB's restaurant is one of the best place to eat. I've tried probably all cafes and restaurants in Costambar, and except for sea food dishes, it's probably #1 choice.Oh, OK. I didn't know that.
It'd be weird eating in the restaurant with kids on one side of me and babydoll clad working girls on the other side of me.
Mr Enternational
02-28-15, 16:30
It'd be weird eating in the restaurant with kids on one side of me and babydoll clad working girls on the other side of me.Nobody is in the restaurant or at the pool naked and fucking. The girls wear regular clothes or swimsuits if they are going into the pool. They don't wear name tags that say "hooker".
Charles Pooter
02-28-15, 16:58
I am very surprised to learn this. I thought there was a sign outside that says no minors or firearms allowed on site.
Jay Balanty
03-02-15, 14:36
I am very surprised to learn this. I thought there was a sign outside that says no minors or firearms allowed on site.There is a sign, it says no one under 21. I suppose they would not kick anyone out just because they are in the restaurant. The parents know what that place is and as long as they don't let the kids wander around I guess it wouldn't be a problem. Like Mr. International said, they are not naked. Even if they were topless, from the time I have spent in Europe I highly doubt that would matter. I have seen titties in TV and print advertising in Paris, Dusseldorf and Rome. I think us Americans tend to be MUCH more prudish when it comes to that stuff.
Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic. - A total of 23 people were arrested, including 16 Americans, charged with people trafficking and prostitution, local media report.
During a raid on the El Choco sector of Sosua township and, Puerto Plata, police said it rescued 29 women, including minors.
Puerto Plata province Assistant DAs Osvaldo Bonilla and Kelmi Duncan headed the raid, accompanied by National Police agents and investigators.
Of the total arrested 15 are US citizens, 14 men and one woman.
Charles Pooter
03-12-15, 21:55
A total of 23 people were arrested, including 16 Americans, charged with people trafficking and prostitution, local media report ... etcYou already, correctly, posted this in the Sosua section. Not sure why you posted it here as well. There is no sex between minors and gringos in Puerto Plata city. I won't stand for it!
Jay Balanty
03-13-15, 01:44
I would like to update you all on the situation with Julissa.
I am boots on ground here at BB's. First thing I did was sit down with her (at the advice of one of you guys) and talked it out. Many misunderstandings were had and the situation is squashed. We both apologized to each other and as far as I am concerned the issue is over.
Now. On a side note. She told me that one of you guys sent her my post. That's really uncool.
I have been getting private messages from a few of you guys asking for more details about my issue with Julissa. I figured I will put this to bed right now and express my experience with her.
The first time I met her was in January of 2013. After breaking up with my Dominican ex, it was time to get back in the saddle. I arrived at BB's with fanfare of some of the young ladies I knew there. It felt great to be back. I check in, get my customary shit, shower and shave and head down to the action. Yakaira sits down with me to catch up and shoot the shit. I asked her who is new and who I should "visit". She pointed a few out. At that time the second shift was arriving. Yakaira specifically pointed out Julissa and said, you will not like her, she is no good. I was a bit taken back, but I did trust Yakaira since we went back a few years and we always chat while I am home so I kept her opinion in the back of my mind.
Yakaira had to go home as she worked the day shift and her time was up. I head to the bar and met some of the coolest guys ever, one of which was a cigar aficionado like myself. Great time bull shitting with these guys. It was time for the fashion show upstairs at the disco. Almost all of us head up there. I was sitting at the bar drinking a Jack on the rocks when I see Julissa checking me out, I smiled, she smiled, we flirted across the room a little bit. She came over and her command of English was a bit alarming. I say alarming because if Chica speaks that good of English she can manipulate an English speaking dude a lot easier than if she spoke broken English or no English at all. So my guard went up instantly.
We joked, drank and she latched herself to me. It was OK since I was fresh off the plane and ready for whatever also she didn't look bad. That's right, I said she didn't look bad, I think some guys make way bigger deal about her than what she really is. She is "marginal" but not this super model that some guys make her out to be. I digress..
Now. On a side note. She told me that one of you guys sent her my post. That's really uncool.
You can't believe what they say. Hell all the girls there probably read and some post here as a man.
Anything you do not want to be known don't tell anyone anywhere. This is true world wide since the 1st of time.
You already, correctly, posted this in the Sosua section. Not sure why you posted it here as well. There is no sex between minors and gringos in Puerto Plata city. I won't stand for it!Sorry I did first there tried to delete I will ask Jackson to delete. I first saw Puerta plata but it is Sousa.
Jay Balanty
03-13-15, 15:04
You can't believe what they say. Hell all the girls there probably read and some post here as a man.
Anything you do not want to be known don't tell anyone anywhere. This is true world wide since the 1st of time.True or not, the issue has been resolved.
True or not, the issue has been resolved.
It is good when issues are resolved.
Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic. - A total of 23 people were arrested, including 16 Americans, charged with people trafficking and prostitution, local media report.
During a raid on the El Choco sector of Sosua township and, Puerto Plata, police said it rescued 29 women, including minors.
Puerto Plata province Assistant DAs Osvaldo Bonilla and Kelmi Duncan headed the raid, accompanied by National Police agents and investigators.
Of the total arrested 15 are US citizens, 14 men and one woman.I assumed that prostitution was legal in the DR. So does that mean that Blackbeard is just being "tolerated," and can actually be raided at any time?
Charles Pooter
03-13-15, 23:35
I assumed that prostitution was legal in the DR. So does that mean that Blackbeard is just being "tolerated," and can actually be raided at any time?It is not illegal. But third parties profiting from prostitution can be, and sometimes are, prosecuted. Now how that is interpreted is up to the powers that be. It might as well include the airlines who ferry mongers here. And a few months ago the owner of Rumba was threatened because his bar was frequented by prostitutes, although he did not "salida out" his employees.
Blackbeards has been "raided" at least three times to my knowledge but only to check that no minors, drugs or wanted persons were on the premises, so call it a routine check-up rather than a raid. Nothing untoward has ever been found and no-one detained.
Years ago the Blackbeards management claimed they were safe because all the chicas were self-employed and Blackbeards never took a cut from their earnings. But they are still benefiting from having putas on the premises as their takings as a "straight" hotel and restaurant would be minimal otherwise. I have always assumed they have an "understanding" with someone at a very high level, but things can change overnight in this country.
It is not illegal. But third parties profiting from prostitution can be, and sometimes are, prosecuted. Now how that is interpreted is up to the powers that be. It might as well include the airlines who ferry mongers here. And a few months ago the owner of Rumba was threatened because his bar was frequented by prostitutes, although he did not "salida out" his employees.Interesting point. I think the way it works is that airlines cooperate in providing intelligence about potential traveling [CodeWord914] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord914) and human traffickers to immigration authorities, rather than the airlines being charged for selling them tickets, so there is a kind of quid pro quo there. Airlines that did not cooperate might find themselves batting on a sticky wicket.
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Provided rooms are available I believe a ST room can be had for 800 pesos. The girls cost 1,600 pesos but "happy hour" meaning two chicas working the cock together is available during the day for a slight discount of 3,000 pesos. BB's is open to the street and ex-pats not staying there walk in all the time to grab a beer or something to eat. During one of my stays a European family with teenage kids stopped in for brunch while the day shift girls were arriving for work around 11 AM. They weren't fazed a bit. I think they were Dutch or German. Not a problem.I paid a visit to BB whilst on vacation in POP, and can now confirm that prices have risen slightly, the room is 900 pesos for 2 hours and a chica is 1800 pesos, I chose Dacha as I wanted a Chica that spoke a bit of English as my Spanish is very poor, she was a good root but not mind blowing, but I left satisfied and felt it was money well spent.
I paid a visit to BB whilst on vacation in POP, and can now confirm that prices have risen slightly, the room is 900 pesos for 2 hours and a chica is 1800 pesos, I chose Dacha as I wanted a Chica that spoke a bit of English as my Spanish is very poor, she was a good root but not mind blowing, but I left satisfied and felt it was money well spent.Are the rates that high for just visitor or did they also go up for the people who are staying there? If so I guess they are really taking advantage of the strong buck.
Are the rates that high for just visitor or did they also go up for the people who are staying there? If so I guess they are really taking advantage of the strong buck.I can only comment on my circumstances as a short term visitor, so I don't know the costs of residents.
Charles Pooter
03-26-15, 18:41
Are the rates that high for just visitor or did they also go up for the people who are staying there? If so I guess they are really taking advantage of the strong buck.I am guessing that would apply to residents as well. They have never had differing tariffs previously. But let's wait for a recent resident to confirm.
"Really taking advantage" is a bit harsh. Much of what is bought and paid for on this island is done so directly, or indirectly, in US $. When the dollar goes up, prices rise here accordingly. Blackbeards need to stay in line or they would soon be running at a loss.
As I posted earlier, in the eight years I have been visiting and resident here, Blackbeards prices have not gone up in real terms.
Manizales911
03-27-15, 14:26
I am guessing that would apply to residents as well. They have never had differing tariffs previously. But let's wait for a recent resident to confirm.
"Really taking advantage" is a bit harsh. Much of what is bought and paid for on this island is done so directly, or indirectly, in US $. When the dollar goes up, prices rise here accordingly. Blackbeards need to stay in line or they would soon be running at a loss.
As I posted earlier, in the eight years I have been visiting and resident here, Blackbeards prices have not gone up in real terms.I can confirm the rates, it is 1800ST and 3300 TLN now. When you check in they point it out to you and it is highlighted in yellow in the book that is in every room which has all the hotel's rules and rates spelled out in black and white.
Hello,
My boys and I (have not seen each other in 5 years) are going to Puerto Plata in Mid May and staying at an all-inclusive place blue bay.
I wanted to know if you guys have tips as per taxi's places to go to meet chicas. Any ones chica that you recommend and possible info.
Anything to help like taxi from airport? How long from Puerto Plata to Sousa clubs.
Thanks
Charles Pooter
04-07-15, 15:21
Hello,
My boys and I (have not seen each other in 5 years) are going to Puerto Plata in Mid May and staying at an all-inclusive place blue bay.
If you guys are going mainly for sex, I suggest you change plans and stay at Blackbeards if you have members with no Spanish, or in Sosua if you are streetwise and some of you have Spanish. You will not be able to take chicas into Blue Bay.
If you just want a typical sun and sand holiday with a bit of sex on the side, then Blue Bay is fine. You can walk over the road to Field of Dreams for chicas. Nobody's first choice these days but for one or two outings it will be convenient enough.
Hello,
I wanted to know if you guys have tips as per taxi's places to go to meet chicas. Any ones chica that you recommend and possible info.
Anything to help like taxi from airport? How long from Puerto Plata to Sousa clubs.
Taking taxis from AIs will cost you as they have a captive market and operate a cartel, but with a group to share it is the best option. 25 minutes ride from your hotel to Sosua. Remember you will each have to pay for a place to do the chicas in Sosua. Dulce Secreto is the best option, about 800 pesos for short stay.
Plenty of taxis from the airport. I don't know the current price, I would guess about US $35, but it is a fixed price which is displayed so you shouldn't get ripped off and with a group to share, it hardly matters.
Dominican taxis charge by the mile not per person, so with a group they work out reasonable. Always negotiate the price before starting or they will overcharge. Don't arrange for them to pick you up for the round trip. Negotiate with a Sosua taxi instead when it is time to go back to your hotel.
Do not let the taxi drivers choose where you go or ask them to find you women. You will get conned.
Any one chica that you recommend.Recommending individual chicas is stupid. Firstly they may not be around when you arrive, secondly everyone has different tastes, and thirdly even with the same chica YMMV.
Some of the chicas posted on here I would not do if they paid me, and I am sure guys would say the same about some of my favorites. It is a good thing we all have different tastes. There is enough variety in Sosua and Puerto Plata to suit everyone, unless you are bent on fair-skinned, European-looking girls, in which case you are holidaying in the wrong country (try Colombia instead).
But read the board to get a generalized clue.
I have not been to a dentist in the US for more than 10 yrs. Too damn expensive. Anybody recommend a Dentist in POP? One they have actually attended? Thanks.
I have not been to a dentist in the US for more than 10 yrs. Too damn expensive. Anybody recommend a Dentist in POP? One they have actually attended? Thanks.There is a woman at dentist office almost next to Jimenez store who is OK. Also Junesca Tavarez above hotel in plaza across the road from public hospital. I have used both. Also guy in Sosua opposite Junilsa massage near Playero minimarket is very good. All speak English, sort of. They all use painkillers. Hard to say which is best. Junesca works at the jail mornings doing prisoners' teeth. Her sister and husband are also dentists.
Charles Pooter
04-12-15, 18:58
I have not been to a dentist in the US for more than 10 yrs. Too damn expensive. Anybody recommend a Dentist in POP? One they have actually attended? Thanks.I have been using Fredy Lepe for eight years and am very satisfied. He is the senior in a group practice with five colleagues and they all have their own specialities including advanced techniques. I have no idea how his prices compare to others but after the US it will seem very cheap. His place is very civilized. You will need an appointment, but I wouldn't trust one where you didn't. On a couple of emergencies he has fitted me in quickly.
He is located on the corner of Calles Duarte and Villanueva. 809 261 0499.
He speaks excellent English as do his colleagues but not all his receptionists over eight years have done so. I always visit in person to make an appointment (I am usually in town two or three times each week so that is no problem) to make sure the receptionist does not fuck up, Dominican style.
The best news is that he is not Dominican. He is Peruvian and graduated in both Peru and the US.
Only thing I do not like about him is he plays Latino romantic ballads while operating and hums along with them. I hate that crap!
I have not been to a dentist in the US for more than 10 yrs. Too damn expensive. Anybody recommend a Dentist in POP? One they have actually attended? Thanks.Dra. Monica Garcia is very well respected by the ex pat crowd in Sosua. I have used her a number of times, reasonable price, very professional, good English and the nest part, she is very cute.
Dra. Monica Garcia is very well respected by the ex pat crowd in Sosua. I have used her a number of times, reasonable price, very professional, good English and the nest part, she is very cute.Dentists in the DR with private clinic rooms are usually pretty good.
I will pick one of the Dentists that you recommended. Thank you. Lonely.
Maradona1234
04-17-15, 16:47
Hi guys,
Got to be careful, from this link (which is from the news) this dentist is not peruvian and did not graduated in Peru or US.
http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=5280
I have been using Fredy Lepe for eight years and am very satisfied. He is the senior in a group practice with five colleagues and they all have their own specialities including advanced techniques. I have no idea how his prices compare to others but after the US it will seem very cheap. His place is very civilized. You will need an appointment, but I wouldn't trust one where you didn't. On a couple of emergencies he has fitted me in quickly.
He is located on the corner of Calles Duarte and Villanueva. 809 261 0499.
He speaks excellent English as do his colleagues but not all his receptionists over eight years have done so. I always visit in person to make an appointment (I am usually in town two or three times each week so that is no problem) to make sure the receptionist does not fuck up, Dominican style.
The best news is that he is not Dominican. He is Peruvian and graduated in both Peru and the US.
Only thing I do not like about him is he plays Latino romantic ballads while operating and hums along with them. I hate that crap!
Only thing I do not like about him is he plays Latino romantic ballads while operating and hums along with them. I hate that crap!Like this one? I could hum along with her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz-n_AuhZC4
or for the Spanish-challenged, here is the translation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmkOwE_TY4
Charles Pooter
04-18-15, 01:00
Got to be careful, from this link (which is from the news) this dentist is not peruvian and did not graduated in Peru or US.
http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=5280Thanks for the correction. I definitely should not have said "graduated" in the US, but he has passed some courses there. My apologies for that.
I shall ask him about the Peruvian bit. Maybe I misunderstood something he said. My Spanish was even worse eight years ago than it is now.
But I got the main things right. He is a good dentist, his taste in music is crap and, above all, he is not Dominican, so you have a fighting chance that your teeth will be better and not worse once you emerge.
I was originally referred there by Blackbeards. I don't know if they still recommend him or took a commission in the usual Dominican manner.
Seriously, if you just want some minor remedial work done, I can recommend him. On the other hand, if you are contemplating investing hundreds of dollars on major work, I should think you should be researching elsewhere than on a wh_oreboard.
For non-mongering issues, I always recommend DR1 as a more suitable for enquiries.
Good research, Maradona.
Tempoecorto
04-18-15, 04:11
Like this one? I could hum along with her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz-n_AuhZC4Pretty woman, sensual voice (reminded me of Gloria Estefan) and interesting lyric. The perfidy (of the Albion. LOL). Quien sabe?
After 6 nights in Sosua I decided to move on. Specifically, I moved to BB's for the next 2 nights. The rates are as reported previously, 1800ST 3300 TLN. Room is decent, not as nice as Plaza Europa, but a bit better than Casa Cayena. I haven't tried the food yet, but I've already sampled the other menu. Looked like 8 chicas by the pool, all of them looked pretty good. I think I will like it here.
This was something of a last minute decision. Thought about it last night and sent an email this morning. Bought a Metro ticket to Santiago. I figured if they were booked up I would go there, if not I'd hop out in PP. Taxi from PP cost $20 USD, not too horrible.
What is the going rate at BB these days I have not been there in 2 years just wondering if is the same or different.
Charles Pooter
04-29-15, 01:26
What is the going rate at BB these days I have not been there in 2 years just wondering if is the same or different.I suggest you read the "Blackbeards Resort" section.
The answer will be found in post #98 ( March 2015) by Geolopes.
Together with related discussion in adjacent posts.
Twice Divorced
05-02-15, 02:49
Oddly, I've searched for contact information for the Aparta-Hotel Lorimar and, although much discussion shows regarding the hotel, no contact info shows for me. Would anyone be so kind as to provide that info for me? Thank you much in advance.
Charles Pooter
05-02-15, 13:50
I've searched for contact information for the Aparta-Hotel Lorimar(809) 320-8555
Be aware that if you stay here you will either need a car, or be prepared to ride moto-taxis (or have to pay and hang around for private taxis). The only thing within walking distance is La Sirena supermarket.
Tempoecorto
05-02-15, 14:09
(809) 320-8555
Be aware that if you stay here you will either need a car, or be prepared to ride moto-taxis (or have to pay and hang around for private taxis). The only thing within walking distance is La Sirena supermarket.Just to add, the name of the hotel is LOMAR and not, Lorimar!
(809) 320-8555
Be aware that if you stay here you will either need a car, or be prepared to ride moto-taxis (or have to pay and hang around for private taxis). The only thing within walking distance is La Sirena supermarket.And beach, malecon, Scotiabank, supermercado why cafeteria Tropical, various casetas.
Oddly, I've searched for contact information for the Aparta-Hotel Lorimar and, although much discussion shows regarding the hotel, no contact info shows for me. Would anyone be so kind as to provide that info for me? Thank you much in advance.It took me about 10 seconds. Try Bing search By the way, it is called Lomar not Lorimar..
Twice Divorced
05-03-15, 03:06
No wonder I couldn't find any info on it.
Charles Pooter
05-03-15, 04:34
And beach, malecon, Scotiabank, supermercado y cafeteria Tropical, various casetas.They have also installed some new dumpsters and speedbumps along the Malecon, but I didn't think anyone would go on holiday to visit those so did not mention them either.
Do you have shares in Scotiabank, Frannie? There is a branch of Banco Popular in La Sirena, while Banco BHD Leon is also nearer than Scotiabank.
Supermercado Tropical ceased to exist around Christmas. There is a branch of Jose Luis there now, but it offers less than La Sirena and has been near deserted on the odd occasion I have looked in.
If the present heat continues, I think everyone would want to limit their walking to the absolute limit.
I would be interested to know why Twice Divorced has chosen to stay in Puerto Plata rather than follow the herd to Sosua. Could be quite a cute move, but only if he has a specific plan.
They have also installed some new dumpsters and speedbumps along the Malecon, but I didn't think anyone would go on holiday to visit those so did not mention them either.
Do you have shares in Scotiabank, Frannie? There is a branch of Banco Popular in La Sirena, while Banco BHD Leon is also nearer than Scotiabank.
Supermercado Tropical ceased to exist around Christmas. There is a branch of Jose Luis there now, but it offers less than La Sirena and has been near deserted on the odd occasion I have looked in.
If the present heat continues, I think everyone would want to limit their walking to the absolute limit.
I would be interested to know why Twice Divorced has chosen to stay in Puerto Plata rather than follow the herd to Sosua. Could be quite a cute move, but only if he has a specific plan.Scotia Bank is a better place for visitors to get money from ATM for several reasons, for example ATMs at La Sirena are not accessible at night. ATM booth is air conditioned. Not usually long lines on paydays.
I would be interested to know why Twice Divorced has chosen to stay in Puerto Plata rather than follow the herd to Sosua. Could be quite a cute move, but only if he has a specific plan.I prefer to stay in Puerto Plata rather than Sosua because I am only interested in semi and none pros. Most of the times it is more work, sometimes it takes several meetings. I like also interaction. I have the time, I am on vacation so I don't mind. I offer them going rate and I had no problem so far with any lady. Sometimes I go to Sosua during the day. I walk around, go to beach. I met one lady on the beach one day, we exchanged numbers and she visited me in Puerto Plata.
Charles Pooter
05-04-15, 17:05
I would be interested to know why Twice Divorced has chosen to stay in Puerto Plata rather than follow the herd to Sosua. Could be quite a cute move, but only if he has a specific plan.
I prefer to stay in Puerto Plata rather than Sosua because I am only interested in semi and non-pros. Yes, I agree, and wonder if Twice Divorced is thinking along the same lines. Pto Pta is better than Sosua for these categories, firstly because it is eight times as populous, so there are eight times as many to hit on, and secondly because there is not nearly as much competition from gringo mongers driving prices up.
Most of the times it is more work, sometimes it takes several meetings. I like also interaction. I have the time, I am on vacation so I don't mind. I offer them going rate and I had no problem so far with any lady. Once you have met a semi-pro, that should not take any work. Most of them are only too glad to go for Sosua-type rates. But if they are semi-pros you may have to fit into their work or domestic routine, so you may need to take a phone number and meet later. But once you have four or five numbers there need be no down-time as one or other will always be available. So the first day or two can be slow while you are acquiring numbers. But after that it is the best way to monger for me. You will generally meet a nicer type of chica than the pros in Sosua.
I never bothered with genuine non-pros. Too much work and I do not have the advantages of youth, looks, fluent Spanish or dancing skills. Most of the so-called "non-pros" guys here claim to have done I would classify as "semi-pros".
If the above is Twice Divorced's thinking, he will need adequate Spanish. I have welcomed two guys to Puerto Plata who had no Spanish and they both struck out badly. One moved on to Sosua, but the more recent one did not have the street-smarts for Sosua either, and ended up happily at Blackbeards.
Charles Pooter
05-04-15, 17:30
Pto Pta is better than Sosua for these categories ... because it is eight times as populousThe downside is that it is eight times larger in area too. No walking everywhere like in Sosua.
For someone hunting semi-pros in Pto Pta, and especially if staying at Lomar Apart-Hotel, I think willingness to use moto-taxis is essential. Much easier to get round the poor barrios where the best pickings are. If you are nervous about riding them (and I would not blame anyone for being so) then stick to Sosua.
They are dangerous, but these things are relative. I must have made upwards of 7000 rides by now with no problems. I did escape lightly in one accident, but that was one of the few times I rode with a civilian, not a taxista.
Charles Pooter
05-04-15, 17:58
... the first day or two can be slow while you are acquiring numbers. Actually, even that need not be so. For the first couple days you can hit on "sure things" like waitresses and street-walkers on the Malecon to take the edge off while you are acquiring numbers of fresher fruit in the barrios. Note the chicas working the Malecon are a mixed lot. A few hardened slags, but also some very young and fresh haitianas driven to it by hunger. Easy enough to tell the difference. Nil or poor Spanish is one reliable clue.
Actually, even that need not be so. For the first couple days you can hit on "sure things" like waitresses and street-walkers on the Malecon to take the edge off while you are acquiring numbers of fresher fruit in the barrios. Note the chicas working the Malecon are a mixed lot. A few hardened slags, but also some very young and fresh haitianas driven to it by hunger. Easy enough to tell the difference. Nil or poor Spanish is one reliable clue.I take long walks on Malecon once in the morning and once late afternoon. I saw rarely working chicas. So far maybe 3-4 unattractive chicas approached and Iwas not interested.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1716079][QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1716079] Once you have met a semi-pro, that should not take any work. Most of them are only too glad to go for Sosua-type rates. But if they are semi-pros you may have to fit into their work or domestic routine, so you may need to take a phone number and meet later. But once you have four or five numbers there need be no down-time as one or other will always be available. So the first day or two can be slow while you are acquiring numbers. But after that it is the best way to monger for me. You will generally meet a nicer type of chica than the pros in Sosua. [ / QUOTE].
I go prepared with numbers and Facebook contacts. But nothing works as planned. I visited Puerto Plata 4-5 times for 9 days each time. First 2-3 days nobody responds and I start to have panic then suddenly every body starts to respond and I get a relief.
[QUOTEIneverbotheredwithgenuinenon-pros. ToomuchworkandIdonothavetheadvantagesofyouth, looks, fluentSpanishordancingskills. Mostoftheso-called"non-pros"guyshereclaimtohavedoneIwouldclassifyas"semi-pros". [ / QUOTE].
I don't have the advantage of youth, Spanish and dancing skills. I am older man myself. I try to communicate through google translator and I don't mind too much work!!
Tempoecorto
05-25-15, 17:40
.....while you are acquiring numbers of fresher fruit in the barrios.Which are these barrios of Puerto plata Charles? BTW, I sent you a PM a little while ago.
Charles Pooter
06-17-15, 19:44
How much is the rent at present for a 2 bedroom apartment in Pto Pta?
Mine is 11,000 pesos per month for two large bedrooms, one small bedroom, bathroom, separate shower room with cold water, includes water and trash collection. 1000 per month extra for nightwatchman (a rip-off), uncovered car park space. Gas, electric, internet not included. Free local TV only (seven crappy channels). On a five year lease soon ending, so the owner could up it by 2. 5% (if I remember the law correctly).
Very similar to Manizales' response (posted under Sosua. Please copy it here!) but he got a slightly better deal and I am sure his was not a five-year contract.
My neighbours are friendly. I used to complain "but noisy" but now we have a new baby in the apartment we make more noise than anyone!
Manizales911
06-20-15, 18:23
Mine is 11,000 pesos per month for two large bedrooms, one small bedroom, bathroom, separate shower room with cold water, includes water and trash collection. 1000 per month extra for nightwatchman (a rip-off), uncovered car park space. Gas, electric, internet not included. Free local TV only (seven crappy channels). On a five year lease soon ending, so the owner could up it by 2. 5% (if I remember the law correctly).
Very similar to Manizales' response (posted under Sosua. Please copy it here!) but he got a slightly better deal and I am sure his was not a five-year contract.
My neighbours are friendly. I used to complain "but noisy" but now we have a new baby in the apartment we make more noise than anyone!My rent was 11,000 pesos a month including water and trash pick up. 3 beds, two full baths, big kitchen, dining room, big living room, patio and covered parking.
Barrio Codetel just behind Portofino restaurant. One year lease but I was able to break it after 6 months,my landlord was awesome.
Tempoecorto
06-21-15, 18:26
My rent was 11,000 pesos a month including water and trash pick up. 3 beds, two full baths, big kitchen, dining room, big living room, patio and covered parking.
Barrio Codetel just behind Portofino restaurant. One year lease but I was able to break it after 6 months,my landlord was awesome.I know that area. Those are stand alone single houses rather than high rise apartments if I recall. Was safety ever an issue if yours was a single house or so? The metal grates all over are worrisome and I know a bunch of women, who were robbed or burglarized in their own houses.
Manizales911
06-21-15, 22:48
I know that area. Those are stand alone single houses rather than high rise apartments if I recall. Was safety ever an issue if yours was a single house or so? The metal grates all over are worrisome and I know a bunch of women, who were robbed or burglarized in their own houses.Codetel is comprised of only two or three streets, middle class with decent to very nice homes. Once you go past those streets things are a lot different. We had three gringos on our street, it was very quiet. The neighbor had dogs that barked at any strangers approaching so I always felt relatively safe. I brought three large cans of bear pepper spray that I kept in the house in case of an intruder but if you look at the picture attached you will see that they would have to first scale a wall and then all windows and doorways are protected by grates and they were ALWAYS kept locked. In addition, the guy across the street ran a gua gua repair business literally on the street and they watched the neighborhood closely so they would not get robbed of parts, the down side being my street looked like hell due to six or eight broken down buses always in the street. If those grates on the windows and doorways worry you then you have a real problem because 99.99% of homes in the DR have them. I walked to the malecon from my apartment many times without an issue, at night no way. Sometimes coming home from a day at the beach in Sosua we would get dropped off by the publico in front of the baseball stadium and walk to the apartment at night and my girl was scared shitless and she is dominican of course and I am as gringo as can be. A lot of young thugs hang out at night near the pico pollo place and the turnabout over there. That all said, as far as the neighborhood goes I would live there again but I just did not like living in Pto Pta, I am heading back in October for a few months and I will live in Sosua this time, I need to be closer to the beach.
Saludos To All from, John, the original and still owner of Blackbeards.
Apparently the Coconut Telegraph has "blown a nut" somewhere by reporting that I sold the hotel or plan to close it after 13 successful years. This is absolutely not true, and additionally, I don't have any partners either. Although I have been absent recently for personal reasons, I continue to invest heavily in improvements in all areas of the business. Just follow our newsletter for current updates.
As of last week however, I have decided to retire and sell the hotel. I guess that when I received my application for Medicare, my friends told me that it was MY time to relax, sit by the pool and drink a few beers with a good looking Chica! In the meantime, absolutely nothing will change. All of my employees are fully aware of the sale and have agreed to stay and expect that the new owner will keep them employed.
If you would like more details about the Hotel / Sale Simply Google Search "Blackbeards Hotel For Sale" and you will get what you need. The site is not completely finished so bare with us for a few more weeks.
Personally, I think the hotel is running better than ever, and now would be a great time to visit. I hope this puts an end to all of the rumors and we all look forward to seeing you soon.
Gracias,
El' Capitan
Tempoecorto
07-06-15, 06:02
I finally had a chance to visit the place that generates more than a fair share of questions, comments and so forth.
I had decided to take advantage of a recent Saturday bikini contest. Got to the place around 3 PM, and had trouble finding a spot in front to park there were a bunch of cars in front. Fortunately found a spot in the shade, it was bloody hot that afternoon, almost in front, of a property that did not seem to have anyone around.
The BB property looked big and imposing the living areas in particular, from the outside. I went in and as I was hungry, asked for a burger and a drink. While eating, I came across a gentleman from Scotland, who said he was 80 and told me he has been there for the last 10 years. That speaks highly of customer loyalty. We chatted about a lot of stuff including the tea he makes with the tea sachets I being a tea aficionado.
Once the meal was over, I staked a claim on the terrace around the pool. The show started almost on time. There were 16 contestants but there were as many if not more onlookers, women who work there or visiting as friends. In comparison, the single male population was around 15.
Most of you know the routine of the contest and so it is not worth repeating. What however was a surprise that I thought that a mere 3-4 women out of the 16 contestants were worth inviting to a room, of course as we know this is a very personal thing. I sat with a bunch of women who I ordered beer for and the quality of service all around was excellent, not to speak of cleanliness. However, to this writer, the place had very little to offer. The show had a break at 5.00 PM. I took advantage of that to leave and drove on to Sosua.
Charles Pooter
07-07-15, 17:48
I finally had a chance to visit the place that generates more than a fair share of questions, comments and so forth ... etc.Good to have an alternative opinion.
But why did you not post it in the Blackbeards section?
Tempoecorto
07-07-15, 22:34
Good to have an alternative opinion.
But why did you not post it in the Blackbeards section?No particular reason. Actually, never quite remembered the specific Blackbeards section, otherwise I would have had.
Tempoecorto
07-07-15, 23:31
Good to have an alternative opinion.As I was driving by Imbert, on my way to Costambar, I remembered your old post and decided to check the place. I do not know how it was when you use to frequent it but the road to grua on the map dips down and goes inside somewhere, not visible from the motorable road. I drove on a little and decided to turn around. There was no one on the road well paved road. I came back to the intersection which the map said goes to la grua. I saw two Haitian women and one little boy walking down. I stopped the car and motioned one over. She, an undetermined age young woman, came to the car. I suggested we go some place. She did not say no but asked me to go to her place and ask her mom's permission. All this, while her aunt, according to her is waiting in a corner, with her son. I was not sure of the invite and any other implications plus she was though young, did not exactly rock my boat and so I let her go giving her a few candies for them. I have no idea how badly I fared but I kind of chickened out I guess.
Member #4398
07-08-15, 12:42
Hi guys,
Got to be careful, from this link (which is from the news) this dentist is not peruvian and did not graduated in Peru or US.
http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=5280I would disagree with you in regards to being careful with the dentist Fredy Lepe and just because of his mistaken Guatemalan or Perubian nationality. According the Puerto Plata article that you pointed out, he graduated in the Pontificia Universidad Catolica Madre why Maestra PUCMM. That school is the most prestigious University in the DR (the best school and the Harvard og DR, only the wealthy go, super expensive school in DR standards). I also know a friend someone is a great dentist in Santiago http://www.paginasamarillas.com.do/Consultorio-Dental-Juan-de-Dios-Lopez/santiago/es-ES/contacto.html who graduated there and also became a faculty of that school. I know that University because I know people that studied there, a friend went there to study Medicine (is now a heart surgeon in USA). And also I was raised in Santiago where the University is located and lived in Santiago the first 20 years of my life so I know what I am talking about. You also don't know if the dentist Fredy Lepe alcompleted some studies in the USA since not all of his biographical information is available. According to some reviewers from the link bellow, he was born in Guatemala and raised in the USA so he might have some schooling in the USA that you don't know. Overall, All the reviews about the dentist are pretty good. The Peruvian thing reference may have been coming from some ignorant Gringos that don't know the difference between Peru, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Mexico, El Salvador, etc etc. For many Gringos and not offense to you (I'm also a Gringo now), they all the same just like some think that Chinese, Japane, and Korean are the same. See more reviews about the dentist here:
http://****************living/19440-good-dentist-puerto-plata.html
Cerebro.
First time to post here, so Hello, everyone.
This may already be known, but I just learned that Viking is merging with Charli's Angels and is reopening (if it hasn't already).
ThunderStar
07-08-15, 17:15
Havnt been back to the DR for 22 months. But the impending sale of BB means we are looking at staying there for a week before it goes.
Reading the posts below:
I first discovered the DR as a mongering destination around 11 years ago now.
I have always rented a car, as Charles Pooter will attest to and driven around the north, east and middle of the island with no serious issues.
One car that I had hired once, did have the steering wheel come off in my hand, but hey, its a third world country and it never put me off.
Sadly for me, the lull of Sosua has now gone, and over the years I have been chasing the buzz of first discovering Sosua, but seeing the changes as it becomes more and more famous, PP looks more appealing.
As Charles said, you will need to use the motos or hire a car for getting around PP, but I say "go for it" just as with everything in that country, just be sensible when driving, or going out into the lesser visited tourist areas.
Charles Pooter
07-08-15, 23:45
The Peruvian thing reference may have been coming from some ignorant Gringos that don't know the difference between Peru, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Mexico, El Salvador, etc "The Peruvian thing reference" came from me. I was told he was Peruvian by his receptionist. Serves me right for believing anything a Dominican tells me. I have already apologized for posting incorrect info.
Charles Pooter
07-08-15, 23:51
Havnt been back to the DR for 22 months. But the impending sale of BB means we are looking at staying there for a week before it goes.So you are sneaking back with your tails between your legs after proclaiming "never again"? Has the lure of Tunisia beaches as a mongering destination worn off, for some strange reason?
Don't forget to bring a spare 500 pounds cash with you in case I run short again. And give me plenty of notice so I can send you a long list of items to bring from Blighty. A case of Cross & Blackwell's baked beans for a start.
Charles Pooter
07-08-15, 23:58
... no serious issues.Apart from leaving me a quivering nervous wreck after your attempt to get back to Charamicos from Cabrera in half-hour to watch the sun set. Not to mention the smoldering heap that was your rental. We made it by sunset, only to realize the sun does not set in the north, even in this dysfunctional country.
Charles Pooter
07-09-15, 00:01
This may already be known, but I just learned that Viking is merging with Charli's Angels and is reopening (if it hasn't already).No doubt Manny 51 is already quivering with excitement.
Member #4398
07-09-15, 02:08
"The Peruvian thing reference" came from me. I was told he was Peruvian by his receptionist. Serves me right for believing anything a Dominican tells me. I have already apologized for posting incorrect info.My bad. Then now I can say that the Peruvian thing came from and ignorant Dominican receptionist. Many Dominicans don't know the difference between a Mexican and a guy from Guatemala or Peru is all the same. The same with black people many Dominicans think that every black person they see is Haitian.
Most Dominicans would be considered black in the good old USA. However you are right do not recognize their African heritage.
My bad. Then now I can say that the Peruvian thing came from and ignorant Dominican receptionist. Many Dominicans don't know the difference between a Mexican and a guy from Guatemala or Peru is all the same. The same with black people many Dominicans think that every black person they see is Haitian.
ThunderStar
07-09-15, 21:03
Apart from leaving me a quivering nervous wreck after your attempt to get back to Charamicos from Cabrera in half-hour to watch the sun set. Not to mention the smoldering heap that was your rental. We made it by sunset, only to realize the sun does not set in the north, even in this dysfunctional country.That was a lovely afternoon with one of your wifes back then. Even my wife was a quivering wreck and from memory. That nice restaurant we went to in Charamicos, the food was too salty.
I would like to sit and watch the sun set at some point. Perhaps at the bar at the end of your road Mr Pooter. Still got a spare room for a little one?
ThunderStar
07-09-15, 21:09
So you are sneaking back with your tails between your legs after proclaiming "never again"? Has the lure of Tunisia beaches as a mongering destination worn off, for some strange reason?
Don't forget to bring a spare 500 pounds cash with you in case I run short again. And give me plenty of notice so I can send you a long list of items to bring from Blighty. A case of Cross & Blackwell's baked beans for a start.Tunisia. Well, we wouldn't go back. If you remember we found a few hotels on trip adviser where there were complaints that the hotel allowed prostitution in the hotel disco. So we went there, but it wasnt for us, and if you are not aware the UK GVT has today stopped all travel there.
The Gambia. We enjoyed that place, but the girls are too clingy. And there is no camel toe, although there are many similarities with Sosua, the Gambia I am not desperate to go back to. And yes I still owe a report on our second 2 week stay there in Feb this year.
Spain. Love it. Its close, there are swingers clubs, its "dirty" - but the working girls are expensive - $150 an hour and as we are a couple they want double.
I really want to spend a week at black beards just to relax, get some sun and one girl a day before the place goes wrong, as I'm pretty sure it will do.
I hope you are up to date with the in places in your town for a guided tour once again!
Update please Mr Pooter on:
Crystals.
Consuladar.
The bar next to it.
And the car wash. El ferry?
Anything exciting going on in these places?
Charles Pooter
07-10-15, 00:21
... one girl a day.The old sex drive waning, eh? I remember when you two were never satisfied with less than three threesomes or foursomes a day.
I hope you are up to date with the in places in your town for a guided tour once again!
Update please Mr Pooter on:
Crystals.
Consuladar.
The bar next to it.
And the car wash. El ferry?
Anything exciting going on in these places?I seem to remember our last town tour was about exciting as a rainy afternoon in Hayling Island in October, and things have got worse. The only places I am sure are still open are El Consulador (now called the Bermuda Bar, if I remember), Cristal, and Field of Dreams. I never go out now, but other Puerto Plata visitors may be able to add to that list. Still plenty of non-pro and semi-pro talent around but you cannot build those relationships in a short trip. I think you would like Rancho Tipico in Sosua.
Will write privately. I don't want to expose your dirty secrets to the upright members here.
I normally use Expedia for booking flights but, due to the embargo; they do not show nor assist in any flights to Cuba. Does anyone know of one? Has anyone here made that short hop to Havana? Cost? Frequency? Airline? Thingsl like that. Thanks. Lonely.
BogieMaker
07-11-15, 19:21
I really want to spend a week at black beards just to relax, get some sun and one girl a day before the place goes wrong, as I'm pretty sure it will do.Is it a given that BB will fail if sold?
I like to spend a few days every visit and would sure hate to see the place go wrong.
Is it a given that BB will fail if sold?
I like to spend a few days every visit and would sure hate to see the place go wrong.My two cents are no better than anyone else, but I'd say if the new owner is wise, they won't tinker with a successful setup. Will keep the same management, etc.
No changes until they have learned the business.
If a Dominican buys it, I fear its toast.
I've long been wanting to visit one; almost did Erotic Adult Vacation a few years back but the trip fell thru, and I think it's closed.
Now (the website is down). It'll be sometime next year before I go (probably in Spring). I want to get input from folks who've been to any of them, such as which are the best, worst, etc. I know one man's meat can be another's poison and realize opinions will.
Differ, but any and all input is welcome. I'm leaning toward Blue Oxygen, with Charli's Angels in second.
NashDrummerBoy
07-12-15, 03:35
I've long been wanting to visit one; almost did Erotic Adult Vacation a few years back but the trip fell thru, and I think it's closed.
Now (the website is down). It'll be sometime next year before I go (probably in Spring). I want to get input from folks who've been to any of them, such as which are the best, worst, etc. I know one man's meat can be another's poison and realize opinions will.
Differ, but any and all input is welcome. I'm leaning toward Blue Oxygen, with Charli's Angels in second.Been to Blue 3 times. First class operation. Chicas are some of the finest on the island. Villa is a bit remote from PP, but very secure. They have their own private beach. But with a pool and a jacuzzi, you won't bother. The chef there could work at any 5 star in any North American city. My experience is that about half of the chicas speak some English, with one or two completely bilingual. They have changed their system a bit since the merger with Oxygen, so be sure to ask Vlad (their online contact) what their packages include.
If you have any questions. Just PM me.
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I've long been wanting to visit one; almost did Erotic Adult Vacation a few years back but the trip fell thru, and I think it's closed.
Now (the website is down). It'll be sometime next year before I go (probably in Spring). I want to get input from folks who've been to any of them, such as which are the best, worst, etc. I know one man's meat can be another's poison and realize opinions will.
Differ, but any and all input is welcome. I'm leaning toward Blue Oxygen, with Charli's Angels in second.There might be some who disagree, but I think I speak for the vast majority when I say such places are wildly overpriced.
Not sure if you are already familiar with the DR, but the cost of one or two days at such a "high end" resort is usually the cost of a week elsewhere.
Not sure the experience is ten times better than elsewhere, but the prices are.
Pussy is pussy for me and I would rather catch my own. Some guys love brothels. Elliott Spitzer paid over a grand a pop. From my perspective it is crazy but I have a personal budget. So when you can have an attractive 19 year old for a 1000 pesos why pay a 200 or 300 for a better dressed chica. I am not sure what the illusion is but I can create my own a lot cheaper.
There might be some who disagree, but I think I speak for the vast majority when I say such places are wildly overpriced.
Not sure if you are already familiar with the DR, but the cost of one or two days at such a "high end" resort is usually the cost of a week elsewhere.
Not sure the experience is ten times better than elsewhere, but the prices are.
I've long been wanting to visit one; almost did Erotic Adult Vacation a few years back but the trip fell thru, and I think it's closed.
Now (the website is down). It'll be sometime next year before I go (probably in Spring). I want to get input from folks who've been to any of them, such as which are the best, worst, etc. I know one man's meat can be another's poison and realize opinions will.
Differ, but any and all input is welcome. I'm leaning toward Blue Oxygen, with Charli's Angels in second.Extremely overpriced, even for the adult vacation venues. There are 3 options on the south side of the island, in Boca Chica and Juan Dolio where you can stay a week for what you'll pay for 3 days at Oxygen or Charlis Angels. The are, Club Fantasy Island and Tropical Adult Vacations in Boca Chica and Satisfaction Plus Adult Vacations in Juan Dolio.
Oxygen and Charlis cost roughly $1000 per day, the ones I listed are about $400 day. Your other options are Field of Dreams and Blackbeard's, depending on your appetites from about $150 to $250 per day.
The high end places are probably better accommodations, and I would hope the girls are all 10's for that price.
Blackbeard's or Field of Dreams are good options if you want the Erotic resort, but want to try several different women during your stay.
I looked at the websites for FOD and BB, and looks like FOD would be a good place to start. I did notice one odd thing on their website though: 2 of the Testimonials are practically verbatim old reviews of Viking.
Charles Pooter
07-13-15, 14:24
I looked at the websites for FOD and BB, and looks like FOD would be a good place to start. I did notice one odd thing on their website though: 2 of the Testimonials are practically verbatim old reviews of Viking.The owners of FoD are Dominican. They are therefore incapable of forging testimonials in convincing English, so have "borrowed" a couple from Viking. I will give them credit though. At least they have brains enough to realize they cannot write decent English. It always amazes me how large and wealthy entities like banks, supermarkets and TV stations will spend big bucks on promotional and informational matter and signage without getting a native English speaker to spend five minutes correcting the worse howlers. I once offered to do this gratis for the Puerto Plata Tourist Board, only to assured that the Chairman's daughter had the highest marks in English in her school.
Charles Pooter
07-13-15, 15:51
... looks like FOD would be a good place to start.A few recent favorable reports, but most unfavorable. I discount Husker Dude's recent report because, if you are with a large group who occupy the whole hotel, it is a different situation.
Anyway, if you want to take the risk, report back. We may be pleasantly surprised.
I looked at the websites for FOD and BB, and looks like FOD would be a good place to start. I did notice one odd thing on their website though: 2 of the Testimonials are practically verbatim old reviews of Viking.I would suggest BB instead. Its just much better managed.
Why not split your time between the two? They are only about 10 minutes apart by car / taxi.
I may just hit both. My logic for going to an upscale resort was partly to avoid direct negotiations with the chicas (not that I can't.
Do them, I just prefer to have everything handled beforehand). But the cost savings at BB and FOD would seem to make it well.
Worth doing so. 75 dollars for TLN? That's awesome; I guess the dollar really goes far there. I'll keep following the boards.
I once offered to do this gratis for the Puerto Plata Tourist Board, only to assured
that the Chairman's daughter had the highest marks in English in her school.Pity you did not hire her to proofread your post.
ThunderStar
07-13-15, 21:33
Is it a given that BB will fail if sold?
I like to spend a few days every visit and would sure hate to see the place go wrong.Hey. What do I know? I'm just a horn dog like the guys here and on other boards.
But my personal opinion is that these guys must be paying people off. And in my personal opinion I guess they have the tip off that things have got to change which in my personal opinion means they take their money, some idiot rich guy buys the place and loses all his money when it gets shut down.
But hey. What do I know.
I want to get a week in soon. Mainly because that's the place the wife and I first started this hobby together and I like it there.
We spent many early mornings watching the sun come up in that jacuzzi with a bottle of rum and coke and a new friend and have great memories there.
I don't really like Sosua any more so want "just one more trip" and all that.
Hey I may well be wrong, but I don't see the next owners lasting long.
Charles Pooter
07-13-15, 22:19
Pity you did not hire her to proofread your post.Fair cop, guv!
But it doesn't cost me to post here. If Jackson charged a dollar for every grammatical or spelling mistake I would proofread everything three times.
Fair cop, guv!
But it doesn't cost me to post here. If Jackson charged a dollar for every grammatical or spelling mistake I would proofread everything three times.Just messing with you. But to be fair many large businesses in the US make the same mistake or rely too much on automatic spell correction. I have found Medicare booklets put out by the federal government in Spanish that are full of basic errors of Spanish.
I may just hit both. My logic for going to an upscale resort was partly to avoid direct negotiations with the chicas (not that I can't.
Do them, I just prefer to have everything handled beforehand). But the cost savings at BB and FOD would seem to make it well.
Worth doing so. 75 dollars for TLN? That's awesome; I guess the dollar really goes far there. I'll keep following the boards.Sounds like your Spanish might be weak? Negotiating price is not a concern at BB or FOD.
The prices are discussed on the respective forums, but if you still have a question, simply ask when you check in.
The prices for short or long time dates are already established, unless you want something "extra" or maybe a tip for outstanding effort.
I'd say the only "negotiating" would be discussion with the girl beforehand, as to exactly what you want.
Always do this so there is no misunderstanding.
I may just hit both. My logic for going to an upscale resort was partly to avoid direct negotiations with the chicas (not that I can't.
Do them, I just prefer to have everything handled beforehand). But the cost savings at BB and FOD would seem to make it well.
Worth doing so. 75 dollars for TLN? That's awesome; I guess the dollar really goes far there. I'll keep following the boards.I can't speak for FOD, but BBs is 1800 pesos for short time and 3300 for TLN. There's a price list in the room. ST includes 1 shot, TLN 2. So if you are wanting 3 or 4 shots for TLN, you'll probably have to pay extra.
I just checked a currency conversion chart, and that comes to 40 USD and 73.35 USD, respectively. So it's good economics. I usually visit AMPS here, which currently cost 175 to 200 per session (and which are being cracked down on). So how is the quality? 40 to 75 is about what you'd pay for a budget session with a Backpage or Craigslist girl (which I've done in the past but am steering away from).
So are there any chicas whom you guys can recommend for the most bang for the pesos?
Check Cubana Airlines.
http://www.cubana.cu/home/
Looks like they have frequent flights out of Santo Domingo to Havana for a little over US $500.
I normally use Expedia for booking flights but, due to the embargo; they do not show nor assist in any flights to Cuba. Does anyone know of one? Has anyone here made that short hop to Havana? Cost? Frequency? Airline? Thingsl like that. Thanks. Lonely.
I just checked a currency conversion chart, and that comes to 40 USD and 73.35 USD, respectively. So it's good economics. I usually visit AMPS here, which currently cost 175 to 200 per session (and which are being cracked down on). So how is the quality? 40 to 75 is about what you'd pay for a budget session with a Backpage or Craigslist girl (which I've done in the past but am steering away from).
So are there any chicas whom you guys can recommend for the most bang for the pesos?I haven't been for a while, so others can make specific recommendations.
Performance will vary from girl to girl, but at least in the case of BB, if a girl is a problem, or is the subject of complaints, she will be shown the door.
I will say, if YOU treat a chica like your girlfriend, SHE will treat you like her boyfriend.
In other words, if you are abusive, act like she's a "worthless ho" etc, she will do what she is required to do, but that's all.
If you feel the need to abuse or humiliate a woman, seek treatment before inflicting your problems on others.
No one appreciates being humiliated or treated like dirt, they will have no enthusiasm to please you.
And word gets around fast among the chicas, as to who is a jerk, etc.
Treat them well, and it will pay off.
Enjoy the brief illusion; - smile, compliment them, treat them "like ladies" and they will show their appreciation in private.
I just checked a currency conversion chart, and that comes to 40 USD and 73.35 USD, respectively. So it's good economics. I usually visit AMPS here, which currently cost 175 to 200 per session (and which are being cracked down on). So how is the quality? 40 to 75 is about what you'd pay for a budget session with a Backpage or Craigslist girl (which I've done in the past but am steering away from).
So are there any chicas whom you guys can recommend for the most bang for the pesos?I can't recommend any by name, I'm not good with names. However, if you just get a beer, or beverage of your choice, and hang out by the pool, the girls will approach you. If you like how they look and how they grope, give them a try.
One common technique they use is to approach as a pair and offer a trip to the jacuzzi. Generally 500 pesos each is the cost. They'll get naked with you and take turns trying to convince you to take one or both to the room. It's a cheap way to get a better idea of who will be a good performer.
Convert your dollars to pesos before going to BBs, you'll get a better rate, about 2 pesos per dollar more.
I can't recommend any by name, I'm not good with names. However, if you just get a beer, or beverage of your choice, and hang out by the pool, the girls will approach you. If you like how they look and how they grope, give them a try.
One common technique they use is to approach as a pair and offer a trip to the jacuzzi. Generally 500 pesos each is the cost. They'll get naked with you and take turns trying to convince you to take one or both to the room. It's a cheap way to get a better idea of who will be a good performer.
Convert your dollars to pesos before going to BBs, you'll get a better rate, about 2 pesos per dollar more.On the topic of money, the most convenient location from BB is Jenny's supermarket, which you will pass on your right, upon entering the gate for Costambar.
Its only about a 5-10 minute walk from the hotel, or ask your taxi to stop there and wait for you.
Good place to change dollars, and pick up a couple of bottles of water, at a minimum.
Across the street is the pharmacy. The Dominican version of Cialis is called "La Pela" and is very cheap in the DR.
Also suggest getting the BB newsletter. Will provide pics of the girls, and show whose performance has earned them the "Chica of the Month" award.
Manizales911
07-16-15, 03:07
On the topic of money, the most convenient location from BB is Jenny's supermarket, which you will pass on your right, upon entering the gate for Costambar..There also is an ATM outside of Yenny's now.
Charles Pooter
07-16-15, 03:53
Great information as usual from Manizales, JjBee and Yanqui. But why is it not posted in the Blackbeards section, so newbies to BB can easily find it?
Were you guys not taught to tidy your rooms as children?
Great information as usual from Manizales, JjBee and Yanqui. But why is it not posted in the Blackbeards section, so newbies to BB can easily find it?
Were you guys not taught to tidy your rooms as children?Well, I suppose someone should have directed the guy to the correct thread. This all started when he inquired about Blue Oxygen and Charlis Angels. We, the concerned and helpful, suggested more reasonable alternatives.
Besides, I didn't want to interrupt the, why nobody should ever go to Sosua, because the chicas are all ugly Blackbeard's rejects and everyone will scam you, thread.
Great information as usual from Manizales, JjBee and Yanqui. But why is it not posted in the Blackbeards section, so newbies to BB can easily find it?
Were you guys not taught to tidy your rooms as children?You're right.
Sorry, Dad.
It was just a continuation of where the thread originated.
Mum says "Hi-ya!
Extremely overpriced, even for the adult vacation venues. There are 3 options on the south side of the island, in Boca Chica and Juan Dolio where you can stay a week for what you'll pay for 3 days at Oxygen or Charlis Angels. The are, Club Fantasy Island and Tropical Adult Vacations in Boca Chica and Satisfaction Plus Adult Vacations in Juan Dolio.
Oxygen and Charlis cost roughly $1000 per day, the ones I listed are about $400 day. Your other options are Field of Dreams and Blackbeard's, depending on your appetites from about $150 to $250 per day.
The high end places are probably better accommodations, and I would hope the girls are all 10's for that price.
Blackbeard's or Field of Dreams are good options if you want the Erotic resort, but want to try several different women during your stay.Interesting. It sounds like Fantasy Island, Trop Adult, and Satisfaction are at roughly the same price point as the Oxygen of old, before it merged with BP. Can anyone who has been there comment on what these places are like (the facilities) and what the ladies are like? Are they worthy of the intermediate price point? Are the girls tested? Or is the whole thing no better than Blackbeards?
I would love to see the southern side of the island for a change, and wouldn't mind paying a little more if it meant a better overall product.
Thanks in advance!
Interesting. It sounds like Fantasy Island, Trop Adult, and Satisfaction are at roughly the same price point as the Oxygen of old, before it merged with BP. Can anyone who has been there comment on what these places are like (the facilities) and what the ladies are like? Are they worthy of the intermediate price point? Are the girls tested? Or is the whole thing no better than Blackbeards?
I would love to see the southern side of the island for a change, and wouldn't mind paying a little more if it meant a better overall product.
Thanks in advance!This is all from my research prior to my trip. My original plan had been to stay at 1 of the 3 on the south side.
Club Fantasy Island (CFI) appears to be comparable to Blackbeard's as far as facilities go. It's located a few blocks away from the beach and the strip in BC and from all reports is clean, well maintained and well run by the owner, an ex-pat from the US. The rates for their no-frills package aren't on the website, but are the same as the other 2 places. According to the brochure emailed to me, the girls are comparable to BBs, possibly slightly better on average. The girls are tested and are kicked out if they are caught moonlighting.
Satisfaction Plus Adult Vacations (SPAV) in Juan Dolio appears to be pretty similar to CFI. It is located on the beach in JD and the facilities are supposed to be about the same. The only exception is the pool. Their pool is a blue, plastic, inflatable pool, like you can get at Wal-Mart.
Tropical Adult Vacations (TAV) is on the beach in BC and is the only place I heard more complaints about than good reports. It's reported to have maintenance and cleanliness issues, issues with constant touts on premises bothering guests, and reports of public drug use by employees. Their restaurant for the included meals is not on the premises, but is a short walk away, down the beach.
The main difference between these places (CFI, SPAV & TAV) and BBs or FOD is in the experience. At Blackbeard's, you sample several women each day and maybe take 1 or 2 to your room. For a 5 night stay, you might have a dozen different girls in your bed. At the other places, you pick 1 girl, and as long as she's working out for you, she's with you 24/7. If you're not happy you swap her for another. Some swap girls every day, but most stick with 1 for the whole visit.
Blackbeard's offers variety, the other places offer GFE. The downside is you pay for everything at BBs. Each meal, each beer, each girl. You're constantly pulling out more money. At CFI and SPAV, you pay 1 time, when you arrive (a lot of reports from CFI say you usually aren't asked to pay until sometime after checking in and meeting your girl). If you drink 15 beers plus a few shots or mixed drinks, it's covered. Want an extra glass of juice for breakfast, or dessert with dinner, it's included. You want to 5 sessions a day with your girl, already paid for.
For someone with really big appetites, CFI and SPAV will cost about the same as Blackbeard's. If you want to wife up for the trip, without having to deal with cupid, they're cheaper. I've never heard about anyone doing that at BBs, but it would be expensive, food and drinks for 2, plus paying TLN each night and ST rates each day.
When I began my research, I quickly narrowed it down to CFI and SPAV. I like relaxing, and don't want someone constantly trying to sell me something. That combined with the negative reports and reports of upselling and demands for propinas eliminated TAV from the start.
I had originally decided on SPAV because their price was lower than the premium package price at CFI. Then I found out about their pool. I really don't want to hang out next to a pool that reminds me of a trailer park. After more research I decided on CFI. I had even made my reservation, with no deposit required.
Some problems before my trip cut a chunk from my vacation budget and I had to cancel in order to go a cheaper route.
If the GFE experience sounds appealing to you, I feel comfortable recommending CFI, or even SPAV, if the swimming pool isn't an issue.
Interesting. It sounds like Fantasy Island, Trop Adult, and Satisfaction are at roughly the same price point as the Oxygen of old, before it merged with BP. Can anyone who has been there comment on what these places are like (the facilities) and what the ladies are like? Are they worthy of the intermediate price point? Are the girls tested? Or is the whole thing no better than Blackbeards?
I would love to see the southern side of the island for a change, and wouldn't mind paying a little more if it meant a better overall product.
Thanks in advance!Trop. Adult and Club Fantasy have web sites that show the girls available in addition to all the info you may need. You may not be able to log in in the island. The former operates out of Hotel Cayuco by Bocachica beach and outsources the meals to the Nancy a beach restaurant a couple of hundred yards west. Confortable but not luxurious. The latter shares space with Hotel Astoria on the 20 de diciembre, three blocs from the beach. I have never been inside so I don't know the facilities.
Reading these posts about the all inclusive's have gotten me thinking about trying one. Cost is heavy, but I like the idea of not whipping my money out all day long. And I'd like to try having a new GFE every day.
Fantasy Island has a deal that they'll give you $500 credit on your bill for airfare if you stay 4 or more days. That would cover all but $140 for my flight. Combine that with $2,065 for four days premium package, I'm looking at just over $2200. That's just over the $2000 price point I try to hit on most of my trips. It'll cover less days than trips to Sosua or BB's, but I think it would be worth it for a change of pace.
Thanks for everyone posting info on these places.
Reading these posts about the all inclusive's have gotten me thinking about trying one. Cost is heavy, but I like the idea of not whipping my money out all day long. And I'd like to try having a new GFE every day.
Fantasy Island has a deal that they'll give you $500 credit on your bill for airfare if you stay 4 or more days. That would cover all but $140 for my flight. Combine that with $2,065 for four days premium package, I'm looking at just over $2200. That's just over the $2000 price point I try to hit on most of my trips. It'll cover less days than trips to Sosua or BB's, but I think it would be worth it for a change of pace.
Thanks for everyone posting info on these places.Their price for the no frills package for 4 nights is $1810. I had to dig through my old emails to find it.
Reading these posts about the all inclusive's have gotten me thinking about trying one. Cost is heavy, but I like the idea of not whipping my money out all day long. And I'd like to try having a new GFE every day.
Fantasy Island has a deal that they'll give you $500 credit on your bill for airfare if you stay 4 or more days. That would cover all but $140 for my flight. Combine that with $2,065 for four days premium package, I'm looking at just over $2200. That's just over the $2000 price point I try to hit on most of my trips. It'll cover less days than trips to Sosua or BB's, but I think it would be worth it for a change of pace.
Thanks for everyone posting info on these places.In theory, these venues sound great. Santo Domingo is much cheaper to fly into than PP. But I would still want to hear from at least a couple of people that have been there. Photographs can often make some facilities look far better than they are. Plus, you want to know the quality of the ladies, and see at least a few pictures. BB and Oxygen also have / had the advantage of testing for the girls. The website do not inspire confidence. Alot of the links don't work. Suspicously, the links that say "click here for pricing info. "
I guess that I wlll have to read further back on the BC and SD pages, but so far, I haven't seen much. Thanks for the replies.
This is all from my research prior to my trip. My original plan had been to stay at 1 of the 3 on the south side.
Club Fantasy Island (CFI) appears to be comparable to Blackbeard's as far as facilities go. It's located a few blocks away from the beach and the strip in BC and from all reports is clean, well maintained and well run by the owner, an ex-pat from the US. The rates for their no-frills package aren't on the website, but are the same as the other 2 places. According to the brochure emailed to me, the girls are comparable to BBs, possibly slightly better on average. The girls are tested and are kicked out if they are caught moonlighting.
Satisfaction Plus Adult Vacations (SPAV) in Juan Dolio appears to be pretty similar to CFI. It is located on the beach in JD and the facilities are supposed to be about the same. The only exception is the pool. Their pool is a blue, plastic, inflatable pool, like you can get at Wal-Mart.
Tropical Adult Vacations (TAV) is on the beach in BC and is the only place I heard more complaints about than good reports. It's reported to have maintenance and cleanliness issues, issues with constant touts on premises bothering guests, and reports of public drug use by employees. Their restaurant for the included meals is not on the premises, but is a short walk away, down the beach.
The main difference between these places (CFI, SPAV & TAV) and BBs or FOD is in the experience. At Blackbeard's, you sample several women each day and maybe take 1 or 2 to your room. For a 5 night stay, you might have a dozen different girls in your bed. At the other places, you pick 1 girl, and as long as she's working out for you, she's with you 24/7. If you're not happy you swap her for another. Some swap girls every day, but most stick with 1 for the whole visit.
Blackbeard's offers variety, the other places offer GFE. The downside is you pay for everything at BBs. Each meal, each beer, each girl. You're constantly pulling out more money. At CFI and SPAV, you pay 1 time, when you arrive (a lot of reports from CFI say you usually aren't asked to pay until sometime after checking in and meeting your girl). If you drink 15 beers plus a few shots or mixed drinks, it's covered. Want an extra glass of juice for breakfast, or dessert with dinner, it's included. You want to 5 sessions a day with your girl, already paid for.
For someone with really big appetites, CFI and SPAV will cost about the same as Blackbeard's. If you want to wife up for the trip, without having to deal with cupid, they're cheaper. I've never heard about anyone doing that at BBs, but it would be expensive, food and drinks for 2, plus paying TLN each night and ST rates each day.
When I began my research, I quickly narrowed it down to CFI and SPAV. I like relaxing, and don't want someone constantly trying to sell me something. That combined with the negative reports and reports of upselling and demands for propinas eliminated TAV from the start.
I had originally decided on SPAV because their price was lower than the premium package price at CFI. Then I found out about their pool. I really don't want to hang out next to a pool that reminds me of a trailer park. After more research I decided on CFI. I had even made my reservation, with no deposit required.
Some problems before my trip cut a chunk from my vacation budget and I had to cancel in order to go a cheaper route.
If the GFE experience sounds appealing to you, I feel comfortable recommending CFI, or even SPAV, if the swimming pool isn't an issue.How can you recommend a place if you have never even stayed there? I am sure the prices in these places are negotiable as they are just expatriates trying to make a buck by pimping Dominican females, probably with mixed fortunes. I would not go near one of them, and if you have any kind of reputation to defend you are opening yourself up to persons of doubtful character.
How can you recommend a place if you have never even stayed there? I am sure the prices in these places are negotiable as they are just expatriates trying to make a buck by pimping Dominican females, probably with mixed fortunes. I would not go near one of them, and if you have any kind of reputation to defend you are opening yourself up to persons of doubtful character.Personally, I trust my own research. If I would feel comfortable staying someplace, then I feel comfortable recommending the place. Having talked with several former customers from both places, having read numerous reports from past guests and in one case having been in contact with one of the owners, I am satisfied, except the issues I mentioned, that either place is comparable to Blackbeard's as far as the accommodations go. Having reviewed the photos of the available girls at one place, I am comfortable with saying, as far as looks go, that place is comparable to Blackbeard's.
How can you be sure about anything concerning these places, if you've never even bothered to do basic research on them? Where do persons of doubtful character come into the picture? You lost me on that one. As for a reputation, I don't have one or want one, and I certainly wouldn't worry about defending one. However, I do get annoyed when people who know nothing about a subject, make wild guesses and pretend to knowledge they do not possess.
As far as I can tell, nobody asked you to go near one of the places. However, if you wish to be helpful, rather than making things up, you could try doing just a bit of research first, especially if you feel the need to make libelous statements, since pimping is a crime in the DR.
Where do persons of doubtful character come into the picture? You lost me on that one. As for a reputation, I don't have one or want one, and I certainly wouldn't worry about defending one. However, I do get annoyed when people who know nothing about a subject, make wild guesses and pretend to knowledge they do not possess.
As far as I can tell, nobody asked you to go near one of the places. However, if you wish to be helpful, rather than making things up, you could try doing just a bit of research first, especially if you feel the need to make libelous statements, since pimping is a crime in the DR.You have pretty much answered your own question. If the all-inclusive price includes sexual companionship then these women are being pimped by the hotelier and you don't even know how much the girl is getting. , so you have no financial relationship with her.
The issue of reputation may be relevant to those who visit these high-priced walled-garden brothels because they can afford the price, but cannot afford to be seen, photographed, or recorded in prostitution hotspots as it could harm their marriage or professional, business, or political reputation.
You have pretty much answered your own question. If the all-inclusive price includes sexual companionship then these women are being pimped by the hotelier and you don't even know how much the girl is getting. , so you have no financial relationship with her.
The issue of reputation may be relevant to those who visit these high-priced walled-garden brothels because they can afford the price, but cannot afford to be seen, photographed, or recorded in prostitution hotspots as it could harm their marriage or professional, business, or political reputation.Of course, it could easily be proved that one stayed there. There's a record of just about everything these days!
You have pretty much answered your own question. If the all-inclusive price includes sexual companionship then these women are being pimped by the hotelier and you don't even know how much the girl is getting. , so you have no financial relationship with her.
The issue of reputation may be relevant to those who visit these high-priced walled-garden brothels because they can afford the price, but cannot afford to be seen, photographed, or recorded in prostitution hotspots as it could harm their marriage or professional, business, or political reputation.Wow, great point. That had never even occurred to me. Its a subtle difference between BB and an "all in one," but an important one to remember.
Wow, great point. That had never even occurred to me. Its a subtle difference between BB and an "all in one," but an important one to remember.There really is no difference, especially since the BB rates are set by the house. BBs just gets their cut by the higher room, food and drink prices. I'm not saying what they're doing is in any way wrong, it's just their way of keeping it legal. BBs requires the girls to accept the posted rates, meet certain standards and show up when they are scheduled.
The other places do the same thing. The girls are allowed to charge only the house rate, except the house collects the money and hands it over to the girl. Same performance and attendance standards. In addition, the house provides free food and drinks to the girls when they're working. I don't think Blackbeard's does that.
What they are doing seems to be working. I think CFI is going on 5 years old now, and the owner took over an existing business. I'm not sure if TAV is as old as BBs, but I think it's fairly close. SPAV has also been around for at least a few years.
From what I could gather, the clientele is about the same as BBs. Probably not a lot of rich and famous celebrities, especially since the hotel that hosts CFI is a public hotel and restaurant. You can book a room there just walking in off the street. It's not even as secluded as Blackbeard's, and reports are that TAV is wide open to everyone during the day.
There really is no difference, especially since the BB rates are set by the house. BBs just gets their cut by the higher room, food and drink prices. I'm not saying what they're doing is in any way wrong, it's just their way of keeping it legal. BBs requires the girls to accept the posted rates, meet certain standards and show up when they are scheduled.
The other places do the same thing. The girls are allowed to charge only the house rate, except the house collects the money and hands it over to the girl. Same performance and attendance standards. In addition, the house provides free food and drinks to the girls when they're working. I don't think Blackbeard's does that.
What they are doing seems to be working. I think CFI is going on 5 years old now, and the owner took over an existing business. I'm not sure if TAV is as old as BBs, but I think it's fairly close. SPAV has also been around for at least a few years.
From what I could gather, the clientele is about the same as BBs. Probably not a lot of rich and famous celebrities, especially since the hotel that hosts CFI is a public hotel and restaurant. You can book a room there just walking in off the street. It's not even as secluded as Blackbeard's, and reports are that TAV is wide open to everyone during the day.Well, it is up to the local prosecutor's offices to determine what is legal, and these things can be partly political in nature. If they are complying with DR employment laws and taxes, they may be in the clear, though the "pandering" issue looks iffy to me.
However these places seem to be charging about $400 per day including the sexual companion. The pricing on the Web sites is far from transparent, but supposing the young lady is getting $100 per day, then you are paying $300 a day for all inclusive room and board in a hotel that probably falls below the level of a luxury resort in terms of amenities. I guess you could ask the girl how much she is making and whether there arepayroll deductions for meals etc.
I wonder what they would offer if you said you would provide your own accommodation and just wanted a doe-eyed companion. The Web sites do hint at providing bespoke packages.
Charles Pooter
07-18-15, 16:01
... it's just {BB's} way of keeping it legal.
The other places do the same thing ... except the house collects the money and hands it over to the girl.If you think Blackbeards do not accept the money in order to keep it legal, it logically follows that what the other places are doing is illegal.
I think the authorities could easily justify calling them all illegal if they wanted to. They are all pimps. It is no different from what Passions was doing.
If you think Blackbeards do not accept the money in order to keep it legal, it logically follows that what the other places are doing is illegal.
I think the authorities could easily justify calling them all illegal if they wanted to. They are all pimps. It is no different from what Passions was doing.Totally agree with this.
To be honest, what these places offer also lacks appeal to me because it is unlikely that I would hit it off with someone good enough to want to spend 24 hours with them, or "wife up" with a stranger, but that is just me. Probably I don't have the temperament and talent to be a true monger. I just like the sex.
Well, it is up to the local prosecutor's offices to determine what is legal, and these things can be partly political in nature. If they are complying with DR employment laws and taxes, they may be in the clear, though the "pandering" issue looks iffy to me.
However these places seem to be charging about $400 per day including the sexual companion. The pricing on the Web sites is far from transparent, but supposing the young lady is getting $100 per day, then you are paying $300 a day for all inclusive room and board in a hotel that probably falls below the level of a luxury resort in terms of amenities. I guess you could ask the girl how much she is making and whether there are payroll deductions for meals etc.
I wonder what they would offer if you said you would provide your own accommodation and just wanted a doe-eyed companion. The Web sites do hint at providing bespoke packages.I know one of the places offers outcall services, basic escort service, but I have no idea on the rates. I expect you would lose out on the deal over package price.
Any DR prosecutor can shut down any place, at any time. Legality is mainly determined by popularity and a willingness to be charitable to those in need. If a place manages to stay in business for several years, either they are doing everything legal and keeping the authorities happy, or they are working harder to keep the authorities happy.
In my opinion, what the girls are paid is irrelevant. If they aren't being paid enough, they will find their way to Pedro Clisante and fix the problem. I am certain the girls are not being charged for their food and drink, this would cause serious problems. Girls would be bringing food from home, or constantly trying to get the customers to take them out to eat, to avoid the charges. Then there would be arguments because 1 girl eats more than another. Nothing but headaches. However, if a girl makes a habit of getting drunk, to the point where it's a problem, she's probably kept on a tight leash.
When you do a price comparison, it is really not much different from BBs. $50/ day for room, $100/ day for food & drink (2 people, 3 meals plus drinks), $200/ day companionship, plus a profit for the business. At BBs, $65/ day for room, $50/ day food & drink, $180/ day companionship. The only real difference is you are not buying food and drinks for the girls. For companionship, I figured 5 different girls in the jacuzzi, 1ST and 1 TLN. That's to give an accurate comparison to a place where the girl is by your side 24 hours per day.
Blackbeard's wins on a few counts. For one, you're not paying to feed someone else, and another, variety is a constant option. The big savings come in if you're not constantly playing with the girls. It's pretty easy to keep your daily costs down to $200, and you don't need to book 5 nights to get the best deal.
On the other hand, if want a real GFE, you won't get it at Blackbeard's. The girls aren't making any money just hanging out by the pool. Their objective is to take as many trips as possible to the jacuzzi or a room. At the all inclusive, all the girls are worried about is keeping the customer happy whether it means walking on the beach, sitting by the pool, sightseeing or stress testing the bed springs.
If you want the cheapest, go to Sosua, stay at Plaza Europa, cook your own food and bargain well. If you don't mind paying a bit more for convenience, go to Blackbeard's. If you want to wife up for a week, pay a bit more and stay at an all-inclusive.
Manizales911
07-18-15, 16:49
Totally agree with this.
To be honest, what these places offer also lacks appeal to me because it is unlikely that I would hit it off with someone good enough to want to spend 24 hours with them, or "wife up" with a stranger, but that is just me. Probably I don't have the temperament and talent to be a true monger. I just like the sex.We're all mongers, you included.
If you think Blackbeards do not accept the money in order to keep it legal, it logically follows that what the other places are doing is illegal.
I think the authorities could easily justify calling them all illegal if they wanted to. They are all pimps. It is no different from what Passions was doing.Did Passions vet the girls, both for behavior and medical testing? I had never visited Passions before they closed, but from what I understand Passions was a bar with rooms set aside.
CP, correct me if I am wrong, but I remember you posting that BB is flat out pimping, and that it baffles you that they have not been shut down. I would beg to differ.
What places like Blackbeards do is make things safer for both sides. But even more importantly, it takes things off the street, out of the public eye. I once saw a mother walking her young daughter through Sosua in the evening, through all that mess. It just wasn't right. If I was the mayor, I would try to end that too. Rather than calling BB a pimp, I think a better term is "mediator." They set the enviironment and the tone, institute some basic health standards, and get rid of bad actors on both sides. They hide it away so family's don't have to see it. And for this service, they make money from the venue.
A pimp has a financial incentive for the women to work more, because he takes a cut out of every transaction. A pimp can force a girl to work when she doesn't want to, often by physical abuse. A pimp plays on the psychological insecurities of women to keep them in line. A pimp would make his girl practice unsafe sex, in order to keep the client net as wide as possible. A pimp would try to find recruit as many younger girls as possible, because most men like younger women. This creates the incentive for inappropriate "recruitment," instead of just allowing women in financial need to enter and leave the business of their own free will. BB profits by creating a successful venue. It makes money off the bar, restaurant, and hotel. Unless I am mistaken, the girls do not pay to work there.
When Germany legalized prostitution, they encouraged the formation of FKK's, which are basically spas with "extras. " Blackbeards is probably tolerated as a pragmatic concession. Local governmentunderstands that they need as much tourism dollars as possible, and that people are going to do what they are going to do. So why not take a brown paper bags of money under the table? Everybody wins.
I have never met the owner, but I think he is an excellent businessman. Think about it. The idea itself is not original. But successfully executing it is difficult. You have to convince the girls to work for a flat fee. That helps some girls, but probably hurts the hot ones, who could probably earn more as a free agent. IN other words, your system creates an inherent bias for uglier girls. You have to convince guys to forego the greater pool of girls and "the hunt" of the open market, to go somewhere more controlled, all the while paying a higher than average price for a hotel far from mainstream tourist attractions.
In other words, you have to get both sides to "buy in." That comes with time, and a long process of building a reputation. And that says nothing of the basic business of running a profitable hotel and restaurant, and dealing with local politicians. And doing this all in a local business environment that I presume lacks some of protections you would find in the states. I am sure that many places have tried to copy BB, but failed. Kudos to the owner and his retirement.
If you think Blackbeards do not accept the money in order to keep it legal, it logically follows that what the other places are doing is illegal.
I think the authorities could easily justify calling them all illegal if they wanted to. They are all pimps. It is no different from what Passions was doing.Legal and logical don't seem to match up in the DR. What the other places are doing is legal, until someone decides otherwise. Then money will change hands and it will be legal again.
If you really wish to nitpick, even the bars and clubs are pimping. They promote prostitution because it brings in the paying customers.
BogieMaker
07-18-15, 21:00
The main difference between these places (CFI, SPAV & TAV) and BBs or FOD is in the experience. At Blackbeard's, you sample several women each day and maybe take 1 or 2 to your room. For a 5 night stay, you might have a dozen different girls in your bed. At the other places, you pick 1 girl, and as long as she's working out for you, she's with you 24/7. If you're not happy you swap her for another. Some swap girls every day, but most stick with 1 for the whole visit.
Blackbeard's offers variety, the other places offer GFE. The downside is you pay for everything at BBs. Each meal, each beer, each girl. You're constantly pulling out more money. At CFI and SPAV, you pay 1 time, when you arrive (a lot of reports from CFI say you usually aren't asked to pay until sometime after checking in and meeting your girl). If you drink 15 beers plus a few shots or mixed drinks, it's covered. Want an extra glass of juice for breakfast, or dessert with dinner, it's included. You want to 5 sessions a day with your girl, already paid for.At the risk of being called names, I can provide some first hand information on one all inclusive in Boca Chica vs Black Beards. My info on the all inclusive is about 5 years old but should be somewhat relevant.
I stayed at Periastron Vacations (was Total Satisfaction at the time) for my first two trips to the DR and have stayed at BB at least eight times. JBee is pretty close in his descriptions above in that you could potentially eat and drink more at the all inclusive which would offset your food and drink costs at BB. I doubt very much you could session more than two or three times with a girl even though you are together for 24 hours. At least that was my experience but some guys stayed with the same girl for the whole time. If you draw a dud you are stuck with them if you can't trade out. I had one who might as well been a wife with the headaches and whatnot. Traded her as soon as possible. One guy traded three times in one day and never did find a girl he could get along with.
At the time I went to Periastron Vacations he sourced his girls from the Yellow House. You picked the one you wanted and the rest went back to work servicing the rest of Boca Chica. The girl I was with got about 1/4 of the total amount I paid or about $100/ day. She indicated she preferred resort to the casa since she got to eat and drink free while working at the resort. The hotel was the Astoria and was about on par quality wise with BB with about 9 rooms and they have since added a small pool. Food was typical Dominican and not as good as BB but was not horrible either beer was Presidente and mixed drinks were available.
I much prefer the BB environment to Boca Chica but if you are new to the DR and don't speak Spanish the all-inclusive makes the whole process easy since you are picked up at the airport and never really have to deal with taxis or other forms of transportation to get to the resort. Thats not to say you can's get by perfectly fine at BB without Spanish and getting a taxi is not all that difficult.
At BB you can spend as little or as much as you want and you can have many or a few women as you want. About the only real deal at the all inclusive is the free beer and if you don't drink a lot then it really is not a better deal then say BB or FOD.
Marc Anthony
07-18-15, 23:24
Another difference with BB as well as more expensive adult AI's is they are relatively discreet compared to Passions. Passions stuck out like something in Bangkok. Dominican casas, discos, car washes usually blend into the neighborhood. If you just wandered around Costambar you might easily miss BlackBeards. It's just a small resort hotel that used to be the Sand Trap Inn. It's not overly promoted on the internet either compared to Passions before it was shuttered. Dominican culture is very tolerant of the existence of p4 p, it's everywhere in the DR, but it's expected to stay discreetly unobtrusive. An obsession with operational details like a court case about whether the chicas are independent contractors or employees under the letter of the law is a gringo thing.
In any country operating a " Shady " business is risky irrespective of laws allowing it. Right palms have to be greased all the time. Every time a new guy is in power either locally or nationally he is going to ask for more.
BB for now seems to be operating without any problems. Maybe right guys are on payroll.
Like many other countries prostitution is legal without pimping. But there is a fine line the girls need to follow. They cannot stand on the corner soliciting. Although it is legal it is not good for the image of the country and Police will arrest them. In bars it is OK.
One good thing we benefit is if we get a part time prostitute who does it only sometimes to make some money. Low mileage and you can see them in Sosua on weekends. Hard core are there every day. I have never stayed in any of the all inclusive sex resorts. For me it is the thrill of the chase is important.
Legal and logical don't seem to match up in the DR. What the other places are doing is legal, until someone decides otherwise. Then money will change hands and it will be legal again.
If you really wish to nitpick, even the bars and clubs are pimping. They promote prostitution because it brings in the paying customers.These things always depend on fine distinctions. If I meet a girl in Classico disco or Rumba bar and reach an agreement with her, it does not involve the owner of the bar. He does not get a part of what I pay her, as far as aI know. The bar is just a meeting place. If I get a girl provided to me by an all inclusive, I do not even know how much I am paying her, because she is reimbursed by a third party and I don't know all the details of her terms of employment. If I ask her about it she may or may not tell me the truth.
Anyway. Each of you will have to decide what he feels comfortable with. Percentage-wise your chances of getting caught up in a police raid are very small, but you might want to be careful about making large payments in advance for long stays.
From what I could gather, the clientele is about the same as BBs. Probably not a lot of rich and famous celebrities, especially since the hotel that hosts CFI is a public hotel and restaurant. You can book a room there just walking in off the street. It's not even as secluded as Blackbeard's, and reports are that TAV is wide open to everyone during the day.I guess high profile guys like Bill Cosby and Tiger Woods have their own ways of keeping their activities away from public scrutiny. Until the wheels fall off, that is.
What is the taxi cost and is there an airport bus into the Puerto Plata from the airport? Gracias.
Charles Pooter
08-03-15, 16:02
What is the taxi cost and is there an airport bus into the Puerto Plata from the airport? Gracias.If you are staying in one of the Playa Dorada hotels, there is probably a bus you can catch.
If you are staying in the center of Puerto Plata you will need to take a private taxi. There is a notice board with fixed charges. I am guessing 1000 pesos but someone here may know better. (I recently paid 600 pesos in the other direction but airport taxis are always more expensive.)
If you are on a tight budget and have only a backpack, you could walk or tip someone to give you a lift to the main road (about half a mile). From there you can catch a carrito publico (shared taxi running along fixed routes) into Puerto Plata and get out at whatever point is nearest to your destination. That will only cost 40 pesos, or 80 pesos if you pay for two seats for more comfort as they cram people in. They pass by about every two minutes, but if unlucky it might take 10 to 15 minutes before one arrives with spare seats. There are also public guaguas you can catch, also 40 pesos.
If after dark, you might want to avoid the latter option. It is a pretty deserted spot to stand, but no problems in the daylight.
DominicanPete
08-29-15, 19:02
First and foremost I want to thank anyone in advance that can share some feedback and provide information.
I have decided to do one of these trips to the Dominican Republic. I am going to book this trip as a reward for myself getting through the next year of some BS that I just have to get through by July 2016. I have no options that will not allow for any down time or fun between now or then. This is essentially the carrot that I am dangling in front of my eyes once I reach the finish line.
A few parameters I am setting for myself are as follows. I want to keep my outlay for any package I spend at 4 k or under (not counting money I spend while on vacation). I want the ability of being able to have a different girl any time I want. I want the girls to be readily available and a small party type atmosphere and prefer the all inclusive option rather than having to hit the streets and clubs and pick them up. Yeah I know its easy but I don't want the headache. I also want some place that I can just unwind, have access to the best looking women, and smoke a lot (as my screen name would indicate) in peace during the day. I want the option to enjoy some nightlife at night such as local clubs, bars, and casino. If I am going to do this I don't want a three or four night stay. I want a 6-7 night stay to get better value.
I have been doing a lot of research and thought I had settled on a place but before I put down a deposit I want to evaluate all options. The place I decided on initially was My wild Vacation. I based my decision on the following:
http://www.mywildvacationdr.com
Pros: Good communication from the resort operator. A seemingly good selection of women. Actual website with pictures, reviews, and advice from past and for new guests. The ability to switch out women each night and also to try different women during the day. They offer a 6 night package that IMHO is a fairly reasonable cost. I can be there in two and a half hours with a direct flight out of Miami since I already live in South Florida.
There are some cons however and they would be as follows.
CONS: Resort seems to be 20 minutes away from nightlife and while they will do some evening outings its not every night. While I get my own sleeping accommodations I'm not sure how I feel about having to share the house overall. Sometimes I just want my zen time. I want to eat like a king all day every day (shrimp, fish, Caribbean lobster) and am concerned about the food options.
With living in South Florida I have easy access to flights out of Miami to many different destinations in the Caribbean. I can punt on the DR of there is a better option but so far this seems like a good country for this type of trip. I'm open to suggestions, your advice, and would love to hear your experiences of or any other place you advise that I look at.
I plan to keep this a running thread during my planning & booking process all the way down to a full review after I return complete with pictures.
Member #4643
08-29-15, 22:03
First and foremost I want to thank anyone in advance that can share some feedback and provide information.
I have decided to do one of these trips to the Dominican Republic. I am going to book this trip as a reward for myself getting through the next year of some BS that I just have to get through by July 2016. I have no options that will not allow for any down time or fun between now or then. This is essentially the carrot that I am dangling in front of my eyes once I reach the finish line.
A few parameters I am setting for myself are as follows. I want to keep my outlay for any package I spend at 4 k or under (not counting money I spend while on vacation). I want the ability of being able to have a different girl any time I want. I want the girls to be readily available and a small party type atmosphere and prefer the all inclusive option rather than having to hit the streets and clubs and pick them up. Yeah I know its easy but I don't want the headache. I also want some place that I can just unwind, have access to the best looking women, and smoke a lot (as my screen name would indicate) in peace during the day. I want the option to enjoy some nightlife at night such as local clubs, bars, and casino. If I am going to do this I don't want a three or four night stay. I want a 6-7 night stay to get better value.
I have been doing a lot of research and thought I had settled on a place but before I put down a deposit I want to evaluate all options. The place I decided on initially was My wild Vacation. I based my decision on the following:
http://www.mywildvacationdr.com
Pros: Good communication from the resort operator. A seemingly good selection of women. Actual website with pictures, reviews, and advice from past and for new guests. The ability to switch out women each night and also to try different women during the day. They offer a 6 night package that IMHO is a fairly reasonable cost. I can be there in two and a half hours with a direct flight out of Miami since I already live in South Florida.
There are some cons however and they would be as follows.
CONS: Resort seems to be 20 minutes away from nightlife and while they will do some evening outings its not every night. While I get my own sleeping accommodations I'm not sure how I feel about having to share the house overall. Sometimes I just want my zen time. I want to eat like a king all day every day (shrimp, fish, Caribbean lobster) and am concerned about the food options.
With living in South Florida I have easy access to flights out of Miami to many different destinations in the Caribbean. I can punt on the DR of there is a better option but so far this seems like a good country for this type of trip. I'm open to suggestions, your advice, and would love to hear your experiences of or any other place you advise that I look at.
I plan to keep this a running thread during my planning & booking process all the way down to a full review after I return complete with pictures.I find spending this amount of money on a sex tourist resort to be hard to understand. Even if you do not speak Spanish, and therefore needed to rent a tout / cab driver to help you out, you couldn't spend half this amount of money on girls renting a nice apartment or going to a nice GF hotel. Hunting for chicas in the DR is really like shooting fish in a barrel, especially in Puerto Plata. You can change girls hourly, if that is your fancy.
And if you do speak Spanish, you can line up a bevy of beauties before leaving the states that makes the girls in these photos look pretty ordinary.
Trust me, I understand the unwillingness to take the risk that your long sought after vacation might end up for shit, but the risks are really low. You are going to the DR, not Los Angeles. The chicas are DYING to get into your pants (actually, your wallet, but it feels authentic nevertheless).
I also want some place that I can just unwind, have access to the best looking women, and smoke a lot (as my screen name would indicate) in peace during the day. I want the option to enjoy some nightlife at night such as local clubs, bars, and casino. If I am going to do this I don't want a three or four night stay. I want a 6-7 night stay to get better value.
You might want to verify with someone more knowledgeable about DR laws, but I believe you will have problems with the smoke a lot in peace plan. It's unlikely any all inclusive will allow this on their premises, and if they tell you it's no problem, I'd be very nervous.
If you want a no hassle smoke and screw vacation, you would be better off finding a country where both are legal.
The all inclusive places are expensive and typically, at least on the north coast, not convenient to local nightlife. On the south coast there are 3 all inclusive places, 2 in Boca Chica and 1 in Juan Dolio. Their prices for a week are about half of what the north coast resorts charge. And, at least the ones in Boca Chica, they are conveniently located for nightlife and trips to Santo Domingo.
Regardless of the price, the all inclusive resorts offer the same package, room, food, drinks, women, allow to change girls daily, etc. Some of the resorts have problems with up charges, often you don't find out about them until checkout. Some also have a reputation of constant requests for tips. Others are complete scams, requesting a large deposit up front and they are nowhere to be found when you arrive.
Websites with pictures of the girls are wonderful, but there's no guarantee that any of the girls from the website will be available during your stay.
Some questions to ask the resort:
Who is the owner and where does he live? (Most owners are either Dominican and living in the area, or foreigners not living in the DR.) This is a major point because Dominicans are not noted for their interest in customer satisfaction.
Are the girls exclusive to the resort? If the resort is getting talent from elsewhere, quality control is going to be an issue.
Are all amenities on site? At least one resort doesn't have a restaurant on site, you need to walk a block or 2 for every meal.
What hours are meals available? What hours is alcohol available? It's a vacation, you shouldn't have to fit all your meals into someone else's schedule.
What is the deposit policy? A large, non-refundable deposit could be a problem if you have last minute issues come up.
Charles Pooter
08-30-15, 00:23
The problem with staying somewhere isolated like that is that you are entirely at the mercy of the proprietor, and pimps are not rated in the top 10% where ethics are concerned.
If you smoke on the premises you could get set up and blackmailed. A poster here was happy to pay around US $10,000 to get out of a Dominican jail for a minor traffic accident, and he was not even set up in advance. You could be paying five or ten times that for a drugs offence.
The proprietor does not have his reputation to worry about, because he does not have one. Anyway, you would not even know he was implicated as it would all be done through third parties.
I think if you stay on the beaten mongering track you will be safer. Money is obviously no problem to you, so you can enjoy the same good time most of us do, but with all the bells and whistles. No motos or publicos for you. Private taxis door to door. Lobster and shrimp while we are eating hotdogs. No haggling over prices. You can immediately agree a price with the 8's and 9's in the clubs and bars. And it will still cost you less than the package you are thinking about.
And the reviews on their own website are worthless. I have helped to write similar bogus reviews for a friend whose business was failing.
Even if you do not speak Spanish, and therefore needed to rent a tout / cab driver to help you out ...
Do NOT do this. It is begging to get ripped off, and there is no need.
Charles Pooter
08-30-15, 00:32
Excellent post JjBee!
Are the girls exclusive to the resort? If the resort is getting talent from elsewhere, quality control is going to be an issue.
Someone very well known to Sosua and Pto Pta mongers, and an occasional poster here, was the junior partner or assistant manager there three years ago. I think the owner did not have his own exclusive chicas. He just had a call-list of more upmarket working girls. But that was three / four years ago. Could be different owners and set-up by now.
Charles Pooter
08-30-15, 00:56
I want to keep my outlay for any package I spend at 4 k or under (not counting money I spend while on vacation). Perhaps I am a bit slow and others will understand this better, but if the four grand does not include what you spend on holiday, what does it cover?
Air-fare? This cannot be very expensive from Florida. I guess 500 would cover return flight?
Hotel? Another thousand would get you quality accommodation for a week. Most of us spend half of that or less.
So what is the other 2500 for, if not to be "spent on vacation"?
Is it for chicas (even though that is "spending in the DR")? That is around 16,000 pesos a day / night. That should get you four (so-called) top-class chicas every 24 hours. (My own experience is that quality has little to do with price, but you are obviously bent on playing the high roller).
But if not for chicas, then what? Not enough to get out of jail if arrested for drug offences. Might be enough to bribe a guard to bring you drinking water and a plate of beans once a day though. Or even to stop "eight naked hoodlums" from reaming your ass.
Perhaps I am a bit slow and others will understand this better, but if the four grand does not include what you spend on holiday, what does it cover?
Air-fare? This cannot be very expensive from Florida. I guess 500 would cover return flight?
Hotel? Another thousand would get you quality accommodation for a week. Most of us spend half of that or less.
So what is the other 2500 for, if not to be "spent on vacation"?
Is it for chicas (even though that is "spending in the DR")? That is around 16,000 pesos a day / night. That should get you four (so-called) top-class chicas every 24 hours. (My own experience is that quality has little to do with price, but you are obviously bent on playing the high roller).
But if not for chicas, then what? Not enough to get out of jail if arrested for drug offences. Might be enough to bribe a guard to bring you drinking water and a plate of beans once a day though. Or even to stop "eight naked hoodlums" from reaming your ass.I think he's saying the 4 k is his budget for the package, hotel, food, drinks, chicas, and the uncounted extras are souvenirs, condoms, and outside the resort expenses, other restaurants, night club drinks, KY Jelly for the 8 naked hoodlums.
DominicanPete
08-30-15, 01:58
Excellent post JjBee!
Someone very well known to Sosua and Pto Pta mongers, and an occasional poster here, was the junior partner or assistant manager there three years ago. I think the owner did not have his own exclusive chicas. He just had a call-list of more upmarket working girls. But that was three / four years ago. Could be different owners and set-up by now.I'm not sure of the nationality of the owner but Americans are involved in the booking process and on site management. The women at this time also appear to be exclusive to the resort. One of the Cons I was concerned about was put to rest earlier today as they can provide me with my own private villa.
DominicanPete
08-30-15, 02:08
Perhaps I am a bit slow and others will understand this better, but if the four grand does not include what you spend on holiday, what does it cover?
Air-fare? This cannot be very expensive from Florida. I guess 500 would cover return flight?
Hotel? Another thousand would get you quality accommodation for a week. Most of us spend half of that or less.
So what is the other 2500 for, if not to be "spent on vacation"?
Is it for chicas (even though that is "spending in the DR")? That is around 16,000 pesos a day / night. That should get you four (so-called) top-class chicas every 24 hours. (My own experience is that quality has little to do with price, but you are obviously bent on playing the high roller).
But if not for chicas, then what? Not enough to get out of jail if arrested for drug offences. Might be enough to bribe a guard to bring you drinking water and a plate of beans once a day though. Or even to stop "eight naked hoodlums" from reaming your ass.6 night package is about $3500 and airfare is about $600 for me hence my 4 k budget.
Package covers villa, a chick each night, food and drink while I am on site. I'm sure I can spend less going the ala carte model but I am willing to pay for convenience and there is a value to me for that. The resort is smaller and claims no more than 10 persons on site at a time and reviews seem to back that up. One of the cons that I had listed earlier is now a moot point as they can accommodate me in my own private villa.
I read up a little bit on Blackbeards and it sounds like a big potential headache. FOD also seems to have some issues as well. I don't see the value in Viking as they seem way overpriced and seem questionable. Overall My Wild Vacation seems like the best option there. Is there anyone that can sell me on the ones I listed as questionable. Also anyone that as ever used My Wildest Vacations would be great to hear a review from.
I just budgeted for my next vacation. My flight from DC area $360 to SD. (spirit air) Room for four nights $200 food $120 and $300 for two ladies a day 1500 pesos a pop. $1000 for a five day trip. Because I budget well I enjoy my self and can afford 3 or 4 trips a year. I will be eating ate baillys and other decent places. Sleeping in comfortable rooms.
6 night package is about $3500 and airfare is about $600 for me hence my 4 k budget.
Package covers villa, a chick each night, food and drink while I am on site. I'm sure I can spend less going the ala carte model but I am willing to pay for convenience and there is a value to me for that. The resort is smaller and claims no more than 10 persons on site at a time and reviews seem to back that up. One of the cons that I had listed earlier is now a moot point as they can accommodate me in my own private villa.
I read up a little bit on Blackbeards and it sounds like a big potential headache. FOD also seems to have some issues as well. I don't see the value in Viking as they seem way overpriced and seem questionable. Overall My Wild Vacation seems like the best option there. Is there anyone that can sell me on the ones I listed as questionable. Also anyone that as ever used My Wildest Vacations would be great to hear a review from.
I commend you guys who can be focused and stick with your budgets, but I over spend every trip. I roll every trip like its my last. I don't throw money around but I don't travel to walk around being broke either. I budget and sacrifice and work much over-time when back home to make up for my loss. I just don't get guys that over pay at an all-inclusive resort for 4 k and then say the word "budget", but to each his own.
Man we are privileged to do what we do, I know guys who have made bad choices in life and can't leave the area they grew up in, I will not let a few dollars stop my happiness. Some guys are so cheap and hide behind the budget phrase but then turn around and jeopardize their own safety over saving 5 dollars, fuck that.
I can't imagine myself sitting in my room while on vacation counting nickels and dimes, most times I just put the change on the night stand for the waitress. I can't imagine myself staying at some dump while on vacation with no safe and security to save 5 dollars a day. I can't imagine myself on vacation going to a business establishment and not at least buying a drink but some guys have no problem going there and freeloading. I can't see myself arguing with a motochoncho driver over 10 pesos but guys do.
I have a couple friends that I travel with that are cheap, but we have rules. Separate checks when hanging out, keep them away from my girls and don't depend on them for shit and go solo if things don't go right. Luckily most of the guys I roll with have the same mindset as me.
6 night package is about $3500 and airfare is about $600 for me hence my 4 k budget.
Package covers villa, a chick each night, food and drink while I am on site. I'm sure I can spend less going the ala carte model but I am willing to pay for convenience and there is a value to me for that. The resort is smaller and claims no more than 10 persons on site at a time and reviews seem to back that up. One of the cons that I had listed earlier is now a moot point as they can accommodate me in my own private villa.
I read up a little bit on Blackbeards and it sounds like a big potential headache. FOD also seems to have some issues as well. I don't see the value in Viking as they seem way overpriced and seem questionable. Overall My Wild Vacation seems like the best option there. Is there anyone that can sell me on the ones I listed as questionable. Also anyone that as ever used My Wildest Vacations would be great to hear a review from.1. What kind of chica are you looking for? Pros, semi pros, non pros? Looks, body type, age? Personality? Do you want them to smoke what ever like you? Do you want them for just a few hours, or also want them to hang with you on the beach, do some local touristy things with you? Or just do just move from one to another and have your personal space after?
2. At the end of your trip, what would define your total experience? Just the physical, meeting interesting chicas, number of total chicas, quality of food and drink and total ambiance with the chica, dancing and good times at night? Or just party and forget who, what or when ?
3. Are you wanting to maybe return in 2016 and start afresh, or be able to have a few interesting chicas you connect with and can potentially see again, while also meeting new chicas?
So, first thing I would say is clearly define your objectives. Your budget is clear and is a very decent amount. So you need to figure out exactly what you want, what, how many, quality vs quantity, what is quality for you, one time only and done or potentially some that could be future nice to haves?
You have a decent budget and can do better than you think ! Unless you are below average in looks , personality , or are over 65/70 , and have limited game .....
So, once you clarify your objectives, needs and wants. Perhaps, many here can provide better suggestions?
I find spending this amount of money on a sex tourist resort to be hard to understand. Even if you do not speak Spanish, and therefore needed to rent a tout / cab driver to help you out, you couldn't spend half this amount of money on girls renting a nice apartment or going to a nice GF hotel. Hunting for chicas in the DR is really like shooting fish in a barrel, especially in Puerto Plata. You can change girls hourly, if that is your fancy.
And if you do speak Spanish, you can line up a bevy of beauties before leaving the states that makes the girls in these photos look pretty ordinary.
Trust me, I understand the unwillingness to take the risk that your long sought after vacation might end up for shit, but the risks are really low. You are going to the DR, not Los Angeles. The chicas are DYING to get into your pants (actually, your wallet, but it feels authentic nevertheless).Very, very unlikely you are going to find many good looking women at any all inclusive in the DR.
The folks who run these places maximize for themselves.
BB is probably the best, but quality (which is subjective is between 4-6 on a 10 scale) , in my opinion. The chicas there go through large number of guys and the experience with you means zero to them! To them you are a guppy! A good boy puppy they can suck some money from. Yes you can make a connection there, but it is fleeting and will disappear the next day. They will be talking about you with the other chicas and saying what a dumbo you are! Like most gringos!
6 night package is about $3500 and airfare is about $600 for me hence my 4 k budget.
Package covers villa, a chick each night, food and drink while I am on site. I'm sure I can spend less going the ala carte model but I am willing to pay for convenience and there is a value to me for that. The resort is smaller and claims no more than 10 persons on site at a time and reviews seem to back that up. One of the cons that I had listed earlier is now a moot point as they can accommodate me in my own private villa.
I read up a little bit on Blackbeards and it sounds like a big potential headache. FOD also seems to have some issues as well. I don't see the value in Viking as they seem way overpriced and seem questionable. Overall My Wild Vacation seems like the best option there. Is there anyone that can sell me on the ones I listed as questionable. Also anyone that as ever used My Wildest Vacations would be great to hear a review from.Just looked at pics of companions on the site link you provided, and other information!
Do NOt do this! You are getting ripped off!
The girls at BB in Puerto Plata are way better. On a scale of 1-10 I rate the girls at BB between 4-6 and maybe 1-3 are 7 's.
By way of relative comparison, on the same 1-10' the companions on the site you linked, in my opinion would rate between 3-5 at best!
However, it's your dineros and your time, so do what you feel best suits you! 6 days and $4 k in the overall scheme of things can soon be forgotten.
First and foremost I want to thank anyone in advance that can share some feedback and provide information.
I have decided to do one of these trips to the Dominican Republic. I am going to book this trip as a reward for myself getting through the next year of some BS that I just have to get through by July 2016. I have no options that will not allow for any down time or fun between now or then. This is essentially the carrot that I am dangling in front of my eyes once I reach the finish line.
A few parameters I am setting for myself are as follows. I want to keep my outlay for any package I spend at 4 k or under (not counting money I spend while on vacation). I want the ability of being able to have a different girl any time I want. I want the girls to be readily available and a small party type atmosphere and prefer the all inclusive option rather than having to hit the streets and clubs and pick them up. Yeah I know its easy but I don't want the headache. I also want some place that I can just unwind, have access to the best looking women, and smoke a lot (as my screen name would indicate) in peace during the day. I want the option to enjoy some nightlife at night such as local clubs, bars, and casino. If I am going to do this I don't want a three or four night stay. I want a 6-7 night stay to get better value.
I have been doing a lot of research and thought I had settled on a place but before I put down a deposit I want to evaluate all options. The place I decided on initially was My wild Vacation. I based my decision on the following:
http://www.mywildvacationdr.com
Pros: Good communication from the resort operator. A seemingly good selection of women. Actual website with pictures, reviews, and advice from past and for new guests. The ability to switch out women each night and also to try different women during the day. They offer a 6 night package that IMHO is a fairly reasonable cost. I can be there in two and a half hours with a direct flight out of Miami since I already live in South Florida.
There are some cons however and they would be as follows.
CONS: Resort seems to be 20 minutes away from nightlife and while they will do some evening outings its not every night. While I get my own sleeping accommodations I'm not sure how I feel about having to share the house overall. Sometimes I just want my zen time. I want to eat like a king all day every day (shrimp, fish, Caribbean lobster) and am concerned about the food options.
With living in South Florida I have easy access to flights out of Miami to many different destinations in the Caribbean. I can punt on the DR of there is a better option but so far this seems like a good country for this type of trip. I'm open to suggestions, your advice, and would love to hear your experiences of or any other place you advise that I look at.
I plan to keep this a running thread during my planning & booking process all the way down to a full review after I return complete with pictures.About 10 months ago, I was in your position. I checked out all the different all inclusive sex vacation places and picked one, the cost for 6 nights was $2400. I was confident it was perfect for me. I didn't want to have to bother with finding and negotiating with all the chicas, I wanted the convenience without any hassles.
I just looked over your choice to remind myself why it wasn't my top choice. Here are my reasons:
Deposit: $1000 non-refundable. Too much and all the risk is on you. The place I picked has a $100 refundable deposit.
Price: $3500 vs $2400 - Almost $200/ night more for the same vacation, not worth it in my opinion.
Owner: Owners are Canadian, living in Canada, if there's a problem, you will be an American in the DR trying to get a Canadian to resolve it. I preferred a place owned by an American who lived at the resort. If there was a problem I would at least have been standing in front of the only person who could make it right.
Website: My Wild Vacation has a very professional website, with a 24 hour live chat option. Stay on the site for just a few minutes and the chat window will ask if you want to talk. Why? Because they have something they are trying to sell. They know that the guy on their website at 3 am is excited and an easy target. All they need to do is get that deposit and you're locked in.
If you stay with your plans, I hope it goes well. You might want to rethink your choice, or you might consider doing something else. That's what I did.
A month before my planned vacation, I had already paid for my flight, my vacation budget shrank. I found myself with about $100 in spending money if I stayed with my plans. Too tight of a budget for me. So I scrapped my plans and started looking at alternatives in the DR. When it was all over I had spent $2100, including a $200 fee to change my return flight, and spent 11 nights in the DR. That doesn't include the $550 I had spent on my original airline tickets.
It wasn't perfect, but the hassles were minor.
For your $4000 budget, you can easily spend 2 weeks in Sosua, Puerto Plata or Boca Chica, with a very sizeable cushion.
Using Sosua as an example, Casa Cayena is about $75/ night which includes breakfast and dinner. The food is quite good, not steak and lobster, but a decent bargain. Plaza Europa is around $45/ night and the rooms are quite comfortable. A leisurely 10 minute walk will get you anywhere in town. By the time you take your vacation the exchange rate will probably be 50 pesos per dollar or better. An hour or two with any available chica will cost less than $50 and there are plenty to choose from. Even if you eat at Sinatra's and Bailey's you won't spend more than $75/ day for meals. You can have 3 women a day and still spend less than $3 k for a 2 week vacation.
If you get bored with Sosua take a few days to check out Blackbeard's. I found it to be a good place for a few days. Want the city life for a few days? Take the bus to Santiago or Santo Domingo for a few days. The buses are modern and comfortable and about $8.
How much Spanish you speak will affect your options. If you speak none, stick with Sosua or Boca Chica. If you have a good grasp of the language, the whole island is a playground.
If you decide to do something other than the all inclusive, here's one tip: don't book hotels through a discount site like Expedia, Travelocity, etc. A $75 room on the website is probably only $40 if you contact the hotel directly.
Good luck.
Charles Pooter
08-30-15, 15:48
You have a decent budget and can do better than you think!If he cannot manage a super time for 4000 dollars he needs shooting!
Unless you are below average in looks , personality , or are over 65/70 , and have limited game ...Unless he is looking for non-pros (obviously he is not) or a wife (hopefully not), looks and age do not matter at all, and he does not need "game" (whatever that is supposed to mean).
What would limit him is a negative moaning attitude (like my visitor from England last winter), poor hygiene, overweight so severe as to restrict mobility, or judgment affected by alcohol (or in his case, weed).
No-one else has commented on his desire to smoke illegal substances. This is an extremely dangerous occupation in the DR and unless someone knows the scene may make them vulnerable to blackmail. The problem is not the cops (alone) catching you. The cops here cannot find their own assholes using both hands. The problem is being set up by a team, typically a chica, her boyfriend, a cop and lawyer. This is a guy who is used to life's comforts. One night in a Dominican jail and he will pay any amount to get out. We are talking north of 20 grand US.
If he cannot enjoy his holiday without smoking I suggest he goes elsewhere. I am too innocent to know where. The J island?
If he cannot enjoy his holiday without smoking I suggest he goes elsewhere. I am too innocent to know where. The J island?Spain would be my suggestion. Plenty of hookers if you have plenty of money. Weed is legal up to (20? 25?) grams. There are now "pot clubs" (particularly in Barcelona) where this fine and harmless substance can be found, or buy hashish from Africans in the parks and on the street. If the gentleman would like a beach, I would recommend the Fuengirola area. Lots of hash since it is right across from Morocco and there is the famous whortel by the Carvajal railroad station whose name momentarily escapes me. Ah, yes: Estark. There are dominicanas working there if that is a particular favorite of his (and venezolanas and brasileras and and and). Fly into Barcelona, cop a bunch of weed, take the high speed train to Málaga. Or fly into Amsterdam and score there, as there will be no further contact with customs or immigration after that point when proceeding to Spain on one of the many dirt cheap flights.
No-one else has commented on his desire to smoke illegal substances. This is an extremely dangerous occupation in the DR and unless someone knows the scene may make them vulnerable to blackmail.
If he cannot enjoy his holiday without smoking I suggest he goes elsewhere. I am too innocent to know where. The J island?1. Speaking just for myself, I was not 100 PC sure what he meant! Cigarettes, cigars, hookah?
2. I agree, smoking illegal substances in ANY country when you are a foreigner is being dumb-ass and that ass will probably land in jail.
3. I met a guy from Frisco in Lima, Peru last year who went and spent a week with one of the Peruvian shamans and basically took a 'trip' into another imaginary world! So, a lot of stuff is legal in Peru. I dunno. Contact David33 on the Lima board.
You can have a super time there on your budget and David can hook you up with innumerable chicas! That man is THE best dude! And one of the most helpful people on this site IMO. And he knows DR very well too!
In Sosua many guys are smoking with no problems that I have seen. New Garden the smell of weed is very common. I enjoy a buzz every now and then. Going to classicos with a nice high is a great time. We all take risks to satisfy our desires. Casual sex with strange women is not a good idea according to many but we are all doing it. If you use common sence you will have no problem smoking a little weed. If some one decided beer was illegal would you stop. I do not drink but enjoy a smoke.
1. Speaking just for myself, I was not 100 PC sure what he meant! Cigarettes, cigars, hookah?
2. I agree, smoking illegal substances in ANY country when you are a foreigner is being dumb-ass and that ass will probably land in jail.
3. I met a guy from Frisco in Lima, Peru last year who went and spent a week with one of the Peruvian shamans and basically took a 'trip' into another imaginary world! So, a lot of stuff is legal in Peru. I dunno. Contact David33 on the Lima board.
You can have a super time there on your budget and David can hook you up with innumerable chicas! That man is THE best dude! And one of the most helpful people on this site IMO. And he knows DR very well too!
I have been smoking weed all over the world regardless of legality and have not had a problem in over 40 years of international travel, but you have to be discreet. Weed is for sure NOT legal Per, though. I have bought weed on the street in México, Perú, Argentina, Colombia (legal there though), Ecuador, Panamá, Guatemala, Costa Rica,Spain (both before and after it was legal and it is still not legal to buy it), Portugal, Jamaica, The Bahamas, Australia, New Zealand, and Thailand. Maybe some others I cannot remember. But the poster in question was planning to blaze up in the hotel = NO!
DominicanPete
08-31-15, 00:27
In Sosua many guys are smoking with no problems that I have seen. New Garden the smell of weed is very common. I enjoy a buzz every now and then. Going to classicos with a nice high is a great time. We all take risks to satisfy our desires. Casual sex with strange women is not a good idea according to many but we are all doing it. If you use common sence you will have no problem smoking a little weed. If some one decided beer was illegal would you stop. I do not drink but enjoy a smoke.It's really no problem finding weed in the DR and I know I won't have any issue with consuming it if done discreetly. Hence why I am willing to pay the up charge for my own place away from the main hotel. The marijuana is the least of my concerns.
So now that we have established that lets get back to talking about options for which place I should consider for my vacation.
Black beards a headache? It's so nice and easy there. It's no headache. Sousa is a headache. Bunch of bums and scammers. Blackbeards is relaxing. No headache at all.
Sosua is one of the last places I go now. 90 percent dark loud music dirty filthy streets disgusting to what it was 15 years ago.
I just budgeted for my next vacation. My flight from DC area $360 to SD. (spirit air) Room for four nights $200 food $120 and $300 for two ladies a day 1500 pesos a pop. $1000 for a five day trip. Because I budget well I enjoy my self and can afford 3 or 4 trips a year. I will be eating ate baillys and other decent places. Sleeping in comfortable rooms.
Black beards a headache? It's so nice and easy there. It's no headache. Sousa is a headache. Bunch of bums and scammers. Blackbeards is relaxing. No headache at all.
Sosua is one of the last places I go now. 90 percent dark loud music dirty filthy streets disgusting to what it was 15 years ago.Yeah might be filthy but living ground hog every day is boring. To each it's on.
If I had no other options BB would be great. 10 guys sitting around all waiting for the same 2 or 3 hotties sucks after while. I am sure few things are as great as they were 15 ears ago. However Sosua has variety that I really enjoy. Seeing over a 100 young available girls is exciting to me. I like to dance and move around. I also like the food options in Sosua. Some day I may reach the point where I am more limited. While it lasts Sosua is one of the best mongering options in the world.
Yeah might be filthy but living ground hog every day is boring. To each it's on.
True, but I have been to just about every part of DR. I drove the entire island various times. I have never been to DR where I didn't rent a car. So I usually go out all day, then return around 5:30. Maybe stay in Cabaret one night. But all that blasting rap music in Sosua? Your rite to each his own. There's plenty of people in Sosua that enjoy that blasting rap music. They won't miss me.
Yeah might be filthy but living ground hog every day is boring. To each it's on.
My God the whole reason to travel to these countries is to have a great time, weather, beaches partying smoke etc it's fine just be careful, don't listen to people saying crazy shit (it's all there and reasonable in cost) the reason to travel to these places is that it's reasonable, why go if your getting ripped off. I hate all inclusives as far as food and chicks included. The money you mentioned is plenty. Do you speak Spanish? If you want to have a good time you have to do some work, that's part of the fun. Good luck but don't give anyone 1000. Deposit.
First and foremost I want to thank anyone in advance that can share some feedback and provide information.
I have decided to do one of these trips to the Dominican Republic. I am going to book this trip as a reward for myself getting through the next year of some BS that I just have to get through by July 2016. I have no options that will not allow for any down time or fun between now or then. This is essentially the carrot that I am dangling in front of my eyes once I reach the finish line.
A few parameters I am setting for myself are as follows. I want to keep my outlay for any package I spend at 4 k or under (not counting money I spend while on vacation). I want the ability of being able to have a different girl any time I want. I want the girls to be readily available and a small party type atmosphere and prefer the all inclusive option rather than having to hit the streets and clubs and pick them up. Yeah I know its easy but I don't want the headache. I also want some place that I can just unwind, have access to the best looking women, and smoke a lot (as my screen name would indicate) in peace during the day. I want the option to enjoy some nightlife at night such as local clubs, bars, and casino. If I am going to do this I don't want a three or four night stay. I want a 6-7 night stay to get better value.
I have been doing a lot of research and thought I had settled on a place but before I put down a deposit I want to evaluate all options. The place I decided on initially was My wild Vacation. I based my decision on the following:
http://www.mywildvacationdr.com
Pros: Good communication from the resort operator. A seemingly good selection of women. Actual website with pictures, reviews, and advice from past and for new guests. The ability to switch out women each night and also to try different women during the day. They offer a 6 night package that IMHO is a fairly reasonable cost. I can be there in two and a half hours with a direct flight out of Miami since I already live in South Florida.
There are some cons however and they would be as follows.
CONS: Resort seems to be 20 minutes away from nightlife and while they will do some evening outings its not every night. While I get my own sleeping accommodations I'm not sure how I feel about having to share the house overall. Sometimes I just want my zen time. I want to eat like a king all day every day (shrimp, fish, Caribbean lobster) and am concerned about the food options.
With living in South Florida I have easy access to flights out of Miami to many different destinations in the Caribbean. I can punt on the DR of there is a better option but so far this seems like a good country for this type of trip. I'm open to suggestions, your advice, and would love to hear your experiences of or any other place you advise that I look at.
I plan to keep this a running thread during my planning & booking process all the way down to a full review after I return complete with pictures.
My God the whole reason to travel to these countries is to have a great time, weather, beaches partying smoke etc it's fine just be careful, don't listen to people saying crazy shit (it's all there and reasonable in cost) the reason to travel to these places is that it's reasonable, why go if your getting ripped off. I hate all inclusives as far as food and chicks included. The money you mentioned is plenty. Do you speak Spanish? If you want to have a good time you have to do some work, that's part of the fun. Good luck but don't give anyone 1000. Deposit.Whatever makes the guy happy, but you're right about the $1000 deposit. The $1000 is the cut for the guy who runs the website, who then passes the guy off to some Dominican. I am guessing that any problems that pop up, the Canadian has his money and has already washed his hands of the matter. If the exclusive, luxury villa turns out to be a nasty little fleabag dump, too bad. If the 9's and 10 from the website turn out to be 2's and 3's, too bad.
It might turn out to be paradise, the greatest thing you can imagine, but if it doesn't, don't expect a refund.
True, but I have been to just about every part of DR. I drove the entire island various times. I have never been to DR where I didn't rent a car. So I usually go out all day, then return around 5:30. Maybe stay in Cabaret one night. But all that blasting rap music in Sosua? Your rite to each his own. There's plenty of people in Sosua that enjoy that blasting rap music. They won't miss me.When I first went to BB I though it was the best thing in the world then I woke up. I'm not knocking you but rap music is why you don't like Sosua? I don't know you age but you must be an elder. I'll go to BB to wine down after 3 or 4 days in Sosua other than that nah.
Well I know everyone likes different things. Personally I travel about every 2 months. The majority of it to Colombia because most areas don't start rocking to around midnight to the early morning hours, which I prefer. I go to DR about once every year and a half. Regardless of what your looking for its a good time but Sosua is not for me. I was going to DR 15 years ago. In my opinion I liked it back then. But similar to you with my last 10 trips to Colombia in less then 2 years, I am looking to wind down as you call it. So in End of Sept. I am heading to DR to wind down from my serious party country.
I wish I could help the other guy more with his trip options but it seems like he just wants to chill out during the day and have a girl handed to him at night. I like going out late at night in Colombia during the snowstorms and finding a hot Colombiana to have fun with (maybe even two) but this trip to DR is for easiness and rest. .
When I first went to BB I though it was the best thing in the world then I woke up. I'm not knocking you but rap music is why you don't like Sosua? I don't know you age but you must be an elder. I'll go to BB to wine down after 3 or 4 days in Sosua other than that nah.
When I first went to BB I though it was the best thing in the world then I woke up. I'm not knocking you but rap music is why you don't like Sosua? I don't know you age but you must be an elder. I'll go to BB to wine down after 3 or 4 days in Sosua other than that nah.You go to "wine down?
There seem to be a few "generational differences".
Yes instead of Medellin rum I drink wine.
You go to "wine down?
There seem to be a few "generational differences".
Anyway I will post a report when I get back. I do like Cabarete and there's a guy that has a little bar in an alley, goes by the name Elvis. I will stop in there and also grab breakfast in Sosua at a place I think is called Havana club or something like that. Good bloody Mary's and food is always good. I always fuck the name up. Wilfred is in there many times in morning or afternoon smoking his cigarettes.
You go to "wine down?
There seem to be a few "generational differences".
Yes instead of Medellin rum I drink wine.So, you don't need to "unwine" or "wine down"?
So, you don't need to "unwine" or "wine down"?Hahaha. Too funny! I saw that too. But you beat me to it!
Well, most ( meaning > 51 percent ) of the guys who come to Sosua from the USA (in my personal experience watching the scene) are not there because of their English skills ( which by the way is so yesterday, anyway ) . ! On the other hand (no pun intended) , very importantly, they are fun guys!
Without them, we would be in boring land. And the chicas would not be there for you or I!
Well, I only party with them and the Sosua chicas at Classicos and 2 other clubs. And limit myself to non-pros and semi-pros from outside of Sosua via social websites. For the rest!
But, FWIW, for me, without the bros from the EC, Sosua would be stale, boring, antiseptic and without life! We'd only have the CP's and Oakie's of the world! Sorry, Charlie! Just kidding, mate! Oakie. You're on your own. Since you are wifed up for this century! LOL.
I agree Haven that the young guys keep things interesting[, I am 60 but I still like to dance and listen to music, Many of us get stiff and less flexible. Some guys also are not uses to being in diverse company.
I agree Haven that the young guys keep things interesting[,Iam60butIstillliketodanceandlistentomusic,Manyofusgetstiffandlessflexible.Someguysalsoarenotusestobeingindiversecompany.Well, that's just too bad!
1. The chicas in the DR are very, very diverse! That's what I love!
2. And, as for those other guys, hope they get screwed (pun intended).
3. Diversity is the future of this world and is the key to the progress of humanity! (sorry for my Sunday sermon and I am a total agnostic anyways).
Pip Jaeger
09-13-15, 23:49
I am 60 but I still like to danceI like to dance too. One of the main reasons I'm traveling to the DR is to do the Horizontal Mambo.
Many of us get stiff and less flexibleIs that a bad thing? Especially if it's without assistance from Vitamin V or see?
I always get a laugh from these dummies that think their seeing semi or non pros. That's a huge joke. Your fucking working girls just so you know. Non pros yea rite!
Hahaha. Too funny! I saw that too. But you beat me to it!
Well, most ( meaning > 51 percent ) of the guys who come to Sosua from the USA (in my personal experience watching the scene) are not there because of their English skills ( which by the way is so yesterday, anyway ) . ! On the other hand (no pun intended) , very importantly, they are fun guys!
Without them, we would be in boring land. And the chicas would not be there for you or I!
Well, I only party with them and the Sosua chicas at Classicos and 2 other clubs. And limit myself to non-pros and semi-pros from outside of Sosua via social websites. For the rest!
But, FWIW, for me, without the bros from the EC, Sosua would be stale, boring, antiseptic and without life! We'd only have the CP's and Oakie's of the world! Sorry, Charlie! Just kidding, mate! Oakie. You're on your own. Since you are wifed up for this century! LOL.
I always get a laugh from these dummies that think their seeing semi or non pros. That's a huge joke. Your fucking working girls just so you know. Non pros yea rite!Good for you that you got a laugh!
The unfortunate logical conclusion of your statement is that you are saying that your mother and all the women in your family are also working girls!
Not my view of women for sure. ,but yours!
This shows the fallacy inherent in the logic (or.
Lack thereof) in your statement.
Charles Pooter
09-15-15, 14:23
I always get a laugh from these dummies that think their seeing semi or non pros. That's a huge joke. Your fucking working girls just so you know. Non pros yea rite!A lot of truth in that for girls picked up in Sosua or online. But for face-to-face pickups in non-tourist areas, not so much.
Yes that's correct. Show me a woman in the states that looks for a looser with no job, no money etc. Then I will show you two loosers. Yes they are working girls. Why do you think most people are fucking other people? They all like fucking and if you go to any club in any where in the world, the girls are not looking for bums. You can say what you want. Yea 90 percent are working girls maybe more.
Don't tell me about inner areas of the DR. I BEEN TO PLACES THAT NEVER SET EYES ON A GRINGO. It was no different other then they for the most part wanted to fuck me.
So think what you want and marry a nice working girl.
Good for you that you got a laugh!
The unfortunate logical conclusion of your statement is that you are saying that your mother and all the women in your family are also working girls!
Not my view of women for sure. ,but yours!
This shows the fallacy inherent in the logic (or.
Lack thereof) in your statement.
They will tell a dummy anything. If your dealing with a doctor or wealthy woman there probably still fucking other people but they sure are hell not fucking or talking to some bum from another country unless your doing damn well. But most likely they wouldn't give you the time of day.
Non working semi pro? What an idiot you are. What the hell is a semi pro? It's a gold digger dum ass.
Good for you that you got a laugh!
The unfortunate logical conclusion of your statement is that you are saying that your mother and all the women in your family are also working girls!
Not my view of women for sure. ,but yours!
This shows the fallacy inherent in the logic (or.
Lack thereof) in your statement.
Anyway I was post a report when I get back.
They will tell a dummy anything. If your dealing with a doctor or wealthy woman there probably still fucking other people but they sure are hell not fucking or talking to some bum from another country unless your doing damn well. But most likely they wouldn't give you the time of day.
Non working semi pro? What an idiot you are. What the hell is a semi pro? It's a gold digger dum ass.
Tempoecorto
09-17-15, 01:17
Yes that's correct. Show me a woman in the states that looks for a looser with no job, no money etc. Then I will show you two loosers. YIt is "Loser" and not "looser"!
Parkinsons
09-17-15, 04:07
It is "Loser" and not "looser"!Well he did say "two loosers". When singular it's "loser".
I believe when three or more it's "looserers". As in "YOUR such looserers YOUR looking for non-pros in THE DOMINICAN, ha ha ha".
It is "Loser" and not "looser"!Well, Tempoecorto just looking at his view of the world, people, analytical and writing skills, he is probably just a bum with probably a poor education, very probably no real dineros and consequently potential internal hatred with his own life and this manifests itself. As it usually does, when a person has a frustrated and unsuccessful life!
You just cannot discuss anything rationally with such guys because they will yell and talk louder and louder because on the inside they know they have no future, no really significant dineros, potentially no compelling educational or professional skills and so what do they have left? Just flail around with their arms verbally and aggressively and shout through the tone of their words.
I've seen these types all around the globe! They are all the same, but for some reason worse in the USA, and in the Middle East.
And, just for the record , purely in my opinion, this points to my conclusion that taken as a whole , women are the better of the human species. If Aliens ever landed, the vast majority of men on this planet will be dispensed with ....
As most , if not all of us know , the DR is a poor country, with no real jobs for the vast majority of the people, and the educational system in pretty poor. The women simply do what they have to do to survive and get by and try their best to deal with the many Dominican ( but not all ) loser men and the vast majority of gringos who act and behave as losers !
Most of these women have no choice , they do not have any other alternatives. I'm not in love or a WU guy or getting married to any of them for sure, impossible , but I do feel for them and have some real understanding of their situation and their plight and act accordingly. I never discuss dineros with any of them a priori ( and if they bring it up , it's over right then ) but I do spend and give them more than 99 PC of the gringos because they did not ask for it and therefore I voluntarily give them more than 99 PC of the guys will...take them to Lifestyle, take them shopping etc. but they never know ahead of time ...the same whether it be in the DR, Brazil, Peru or anywhere else .
I was not born with a silver spoon in my hand and try to have a heart for those who never had the opportunities in life like I did.
But, to each his own. Que sera sera. I will have no further response. Flail away.
As most , if not all of us know , the DR is a poor country, with no real jobs for the vast majority of the people, and the educational system in pretty poor. The women simply do what they have to do to survive and get by and try their best to deal with the many Dominican ( but not all ) loser men and the vast majority of gringos who act and behave as losers !
Most of these women have no choice , they do not have any other alternatives. I'm not in love or a WU guy or getting married to any of them for sure, impossible , but I do feel for them and have some real understanding of their situation and their plight and act accordingly. I never discuss dineros with any of them a priori ( and if they bring it up , it's over right then ) but I do spend and give them more than 99 PC of the gringos because they did not ask for it and therefore I voluntarily give them more than 99 PC of the guys will...take them to Lifestyle, take them shopping etc. but they never know ahead of time ...the same whether it be in the DR, Brazil, Peru or anywhere else .
I was not born with a silver spoon in my hand and try to have a heart for those who never had the opportunities in life like I did.
But, to each his own. Que sera sera. I will have no further response. Flail away.You make a good point. Those on this board have an interest in sex tourism, - usually to countries where poor social and economic conditions make the women more likely to sell sexual services (CHEAPLY) to improve their living conditions, which we, of course, exploit, hopefully to our mutual benefit.
In such countries, poor women with little opportunity or future view "rich" foreigners as either a means to improve their life, or a ticket out.
In the DR, getting a visa to the US is like winning the lottery. Most dream of getting off the island to a place with jobs, high standard of living, etc.
Getting an American or Canadian (or German, Swiss, British, etc) husband is even better.
You can include most of Latin America, Third World, and poorer countries of Europe (Russia, Moldova) and Asia.
The only thing most of these women have to achieve this is their sex, either to sell in their own country, or to attract a spouse to take them away.
In this sense, they are all "prostitutes," - but so are those young, attractive women dating or marrying millionaires twice their age; only the price tag is higher.
I can't judge them harshly. In their position, most of us would do exactly the same.
Charles Pooter
09-17-15, 15:34
Most of these women have no choice, they do not have any other alternatives. Interesting statistics:
Dominican Republic at the top when it comes to women
Twenty six percent of women in the European Union now hold senior management positions compared to 17% in 2004. However, when looking at the rest of the world, women in other countries fare better, including by far the Dominican Republic.
The highest percentage of women in senior positions within the same area is Russia with 40% and moving east, the Philippines has 37% and Thailand 36%.
However, looking at other parts of the world, Africa only has 23% of senior management positions held by women, North America some 21% and Latin America 18% as a whole, apart from the Dominican Republic where 55.8% of senior and middle management posts are held by women, while Panama has 48.7%.
In its September 2015 PUCMM university graduation, around 80% of more than 1,000 graduates were women. The PUCMM is the largest private university in the Dominican Republic.
If there is any sense in this it may be explained by the contempt for education held by most Dominican males (except Danilo).
I have had insight into several junior schools on this island and the general pattern is that the girls work and the boys just fuck about.
Same problem in many first world countries but exaggerated in the DR.
What is your source for this? I lived in Panamá and saw no evidence of this ratio.
Most Latin countries are very chavenistic. Women are second class citizens in most of the world. This is very true in the DR. On the other hand. Women are more often in schools. I believe most of these schools are scams. Mainly because there are no jobs if you finish. IT is a very sad lie for these people. It is what our country would look like if we let capitalism run amuck.
What is your source for this? I lived in Panam and saw no evidence of this ratio.
Well, Tempoecorto just looking at his view of the world, people, analytical and writing skills, he is probably just a bum with probably a poor education, very probably no real dineros and consequently potential internal hatred with his own life and this manifests itself. As it usually does, when a person has a frustrated and unsuccessful life!
You just cannot discuss anything rationally with such guys because they will yell and talk louder and louder because on the inside they know they have no future, no really significant dineros, potentially no compelling educational or professional skills and so what do they have left? Just flail around with their arms verbally and aggressively and shout through the tone of their words.
I've seen these types all around the globe! They are all the same, but for some reason worse in the USA, and in the Middle East.
And, just for the record , purely in my opinion, this points to my conclusion that taken as a whole , women are the better of the human species. If Aliens ever landed, the vast majority of men on this planet will be dispensed with ....
As most , if not all of us know , the DR is a poor country, with no real jobs for the vast majority of the people, and the educational system in pretty poor. The women simply do what they have to do to survive and get by and try their best to deal with the many Dominican ( but not all ) loser men and the vast majority of gringos who act and behave as losers.I find this to be, not only very offensive, but uninformed as well.
Whether or not the original poster is a bum, with no real education is irrelevant.
It's nice to mix a bit of Spanish, but it's better if you get it right. Try "no real dinero" next time when you wish to insult people who have less than you.
I'm one of those uneducated, frustrated people with no real money. Uneducated, partially from bad choices and partially from bad luck, I've struggled for most of my life. For about 30 years I've averaged a workweek of over 80 hours. With a few, fairly brief exceptions, my long hours have not been spent sitting in meetings, exchanging emails or generating paperwork to justify my salary. Those hours have been mainly spent engaged in difficult physical labor, often in uncomfortable, conditions. Spend 16 hours working in a Wyoming blizzard, or when the heat index is about 130°F. Try putting in 36 to 40 hours straight out of every 48 for about 3 weeks.
Try going over 20 years working like that without any vacation, with only a very rare sick day. It's hard not to become frustrated when you see bad luck or bad people take away everything you've worked for. It's especially hard when you see someone, who considers 2 catered meetings, a 3 hour lunch and a few phone calls a hard day's work, belittling anyone who doesn't drive a luxury car.
Over the last year I've decided to do whatever it takes to finally see some of the world and get some pleasure from all the pain. I've taken 2 vacations and hope to manage another, with luck and no serious health issues, within the next 12 months. It means taking on more work, work that is extremely difficult at this stage of my life and it means walking a fine line financially.
Even though I have no real dinero, and no degrees, framed and hanging on my wall, I and many others who have faced the same challenges, can have rational discussions, don't need to yell louder and louder and have a healthy attitude towards all people, men and women.
While you're casting stones, here's a few targets for you to hone your educated, professional skills on:
"If Aliens ever landed. " should be "ever land".
"They are all the same, but for some reason worse in the USA, and in the Middle East" is contradictory. If they are worse in the USA and Middle East, they aren't all the same.
I won't even bother with the first sentence of the second paragraph, just dig a hole and bury it.
". just looking at his view of the world, people, analytical and writing skills. " is another gem. After "people", stick in "and his", and it makes sense.
Perhaps, before you criticize the analytical and writing skills of the uneducated poor, who have the audacity to intrude upon your world, you should look in the mirror. Before you make generalizations about others, maybe you should take the time to study the subjects of your derision.
Interesting statistics:
Dominican Republic at the top when it comes to women
However, looking at other parts of the world, Africa only has 23% of senior management positions held by women, North America some 21% and Latin America 18% as a whole, apart from the Dominican Republic where 55.8% of senior and middle management posts are held by women, while Panama has 48.7%.
Purely explained by the fact that DR men are lazy bums.
You worked 80 hours a week for thirty years and you have no money? And then you are picking on a poster's grammar, but your first two sentences have grammatical errors? You should probably just shoot yourself and put yourself out of your misery.
You worked 80 hours a week for thirty years and you have no money? And then you are picking on a poster's grammar, but your first two sentences have grammatical errors? You should probably just shoot yourself and put yourself out of your misery.Excellent advice, I've considered following it on more than one occasion. However, in the past, when things couldn't get any worse, I've always found a reason to live another day. Whether it was the death of a dear friend, wife or mother, or finding out a partner had left me with a $500 k liability, I found my smile again.
You are correct, I am not qualified to lead the grammar police. However, if you read the post I responded to, you may understand why I made the attempt.
When I first stumbled upon this site, I was looking for information. Some of the people here were quite helpful, others were less helpful. One person used the analytical skills he often brags about to make several declarations, most of which have been proven to be incorrect. Among those declarations:
An established and reputable business was a scam, the owners were criminals and I am simply shilling for them. I've since talked to many past customers and have met 3. All have given their recommendation.
The Carnival cruise port meant the end of Sosua. It would be cleaned up.
The police would start arresting any tourists in Sosua who they suspected of mongering.
The major bust in Sosua (a joint DR / US operation) meant Americans were now being targeted. His very knowledgeable sources said it was so the real estate developers could seize control of Sosua.
When I see this same person insulting the analytical ability of another, reaching unfounded conclusions and then insulting a significant portion of the world's population, I feel the need to speak up. I would have said something regardless of who he chose to belittle.
I apologize. The board has a purpose, and this does nothing to further that purpose. I will go back to working hard and being poor. At least I can comfort myself with the knowledge, I still have some decency in a world where it is in short supply.
I find this to be, not only very offensive, but uninformed as well.
Whether or not the original poster is a bum, with no real education is irrelevant.
It's nice to mix a bit of Spanish, but it's better if you get it right. Try "no real dinero" next time when you wish to insult people who have less than you.
I'm one of those uneducated, frustrated people with no real money. Uneducated, partially from bad choices and partially from bad luck, I've struggled for most of my life. For about 30 years I've averaged a workweek of over 80 hours. With a few, fairly brief exceptions, my long hours have not been spent sitting in meetings, exchanging emails or generating paperwork to justify my salary. Those hours have been mainly spent engaged in difficult physical labor, often in uncomfortable, conditions. Spend 16 hours working in a Wyoming blizzard, or when the heat index is about 130F. Try putting in 36 to 40 hours straight out of every 48 for about 3 weeks.
Try going over 20 years working like that without any vacation, with only a very rare sick day. It's hard not to become frustrated when you see bad luck or bad people take away everything you've worked for. It's especially hard when you see someone, who considers 2 catered meetings, a 3 hour lunch and a few phone calls a hard day's work, belittling anyone who doesn't drive a luxury car.
Over the last year I've decided to do whatever it takes to finally see some of the world and get some pleasure from all the pain. I've taken 2 vacations and hope to manage another, with luck and no serious health issues, within the next 12 months. It means taking on more work, work that is extremely difficult at this stage of my life and it means walking a fine line financially.
Even though I have no real dinero, and no degrees, framed and hanging on my wall, I and many others who have faced the same challenges, can have rational discussions, don't need to yell louder and louder and have a healthy attitude towards all people, men and women.
While you're casting stones, here's a few targets for you to hone your educated, professional skills on:
"If Aliens ever landed. " should be "ever land".
"They are all the same, but for some reason worse in the USA, and in the Middle East" is contradictory. If they are worse in the USA and Middle East, they aren't all the same.
I won't even bother with the first sentence of the second paragraph, just dig a hole and bury it.
". just looking at his view of the world, people, analytical and writing skills. " is another gem. After "people", stick in "and his", and it makes sense.
Perhaps, before you criticize the analytical and writing skills of the uneducated poor, who have the audacity to intrude upon your world, you should look in the mirror. Before you make generalizations about others, maybe you should take the time to study the subjects of your derision.I hear you and thanks for your thoughts. Much appreciated. Sorry for any specific perceived offense towards you, although unintended. All the best to you and hope your travels are fun and successful. Cheers!
Jay Balanty
09-18-15, 13:57
Gentlemen, if I may have the floor, I have something to say:
I have been going to the DR, specifically Puerto Plata for YEARS now. I have had some very. Interesting. Experiences to say the least. But year after year I have returned and have never regretted it.
Which brings me to my point.
A few weeks ago I had a business trip to Asia, it put me in a position to swing on down to Bangkok Thailand for a week. I heard so many things about this "wonderland", I felt like I HAD TO GO.
After 8 days, I can say this.
The grass is not always greener on the other side. After my time in Bangkok, I can without a doubt say I MUCH prefer the DR. I wrote a trip report and called it 1 disappointing week in Bangkok and got kicked off another forum. I will not get into the details here, but Gentlemen, friends, please realize what we have here in the DR.
For those who don't live here year round its a 3-6 hour flight into Paradise vs the 22 hours I flew.
Spanish is very easy to understand and learn in comparison to Thai.
Ah yes and the woman, the curves, that creamy dark sun kissed skin, the meticulously styled hair, those big brown eyes.
I don't care what anyone says, at this point in my travels, I have yet to find a group of women that are generally more beautiful than Dominicanas.
Now that my venting is over, I will return you back to your normally discussed topics.
Thank you all for your time.
Gentlemen, if I may have the floor, I have something to say:
I have been going to the DR, specifically Puerto Plata for YEARS now. I have had some very. Interesting. Experiences to say the least. But year after year I have returned and have never regretted it.
Which brings me to my point.
A few weeks ago I had a business trip to Asia, it put me in a position to swing on down to Bangkok Thailand for a week. I heard so many things about this "wonderland", I felt like I HAD TO GO.
After 8 days, I can say this.
The grass is not always greener on the other side. After my time in Bangkok, I can without a doubt say I MUCH prefer the DR. I wrote a trip report and called it 1 disappointing week in Bangkok and got kicked off another forum. I will not get into the details here, but Gentlemen, friends, please realize what we have here in the DR.
For those who don't live here year round its a 3-6 hour flight into Paradise vs the 22 hours I flew.
Spanish is very easy to understand and learn in comparison to Thai.
Ah yes and the woman, the curves, that creamy dark sun kissed skin, the meticulously styled hair, those big brown eyes.
I don't care what anyone says, at this point in my travels, I have yet to find a group of women that are generally more beautiful than Dominicanas.
Now that my venting is over, I will return you back to your normally discussed topics.
Thank you all for your time.
Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder. We all have our individual preferences.
While I've enjoyed many excellent visits to the DR, I wouldn't put it ahead of Thailand. I haven't been there in four years so maybe it's changed. But IMO Thailand is one of the major mongering venues in the World, along with having great food, culture, and beaches. Yeah the language is almost impossible, but that doesn't stop one from enjoying oneself. I think to really judge it you need to spend way more than a couple days there. Just a week in Bangkok isn't a big enough sample size to really make a conclusion. Were you able to get outside of BKK? Pattaya, Phuket, Chang Mai? Thailand really is an incredible country to visit.
There are for sure some very hot Dominicanas, but beauty-wise, I'd rate them below the Brasilenas and Colombianas. But again just my opinion.
No doubt the short trip makes the DR a very tempting choice for those living in the Eastern half of the US or the Midwest. I used to go to Brasil three times a Winter. I keep wanting to return, but I just can't get myself to commit to that overnight flight. And Thailand is an even more arduous flight than Brasil.
Yes, Jay, the curves and particularly the enormous breasts. , I love the PI and SouthEast Asia but hands down DR for the boobs.
A few weeks ago I had a business trip to Asia, it put me in a position to swing on down to Bangkok Thailand for a week. I heard so many things about this "wonderland", I felt like I HAD TO GO.
The grass is not always greener on the other side.
Ah yes and the woman, the curves, that creamy dark sun kissed skin, the meticulously styled hair, those big brown eyes...
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Gentlemen, if I may have the floor, I have something to say:
I have been going to the DR, specifically Puerto Plata for YEARS now. I have had some very. Interesting. Experiences to say the least. But year after year I have returned and have never regretted it.
Which brings me to my point.
A few weeks ago I had a business trip to Asia, it put me in a position to swing on down to Bangkok Thailand for a week. I heard so many things about this "wonderland", I felt like I HAD TO GO.
After 8 days, I can say this.
The grass is not always greener on the other side. After my time in Bangkok, I can without a doubt say I MUCH prefer the DR. Where did you stay? Were the girls you spent time with from Issan? I can understand why after all you've read and heard it didn't meet your imagined desire. After living in Bangkok for a number of years, I still hold it dear to me. Yes you're correct Thai is difficult, albeit not impossible to learn, Mai Pen Rai, The difference between the two is almost like apples and oranges, I've yet to see any establishment that specializes in only Blowjobs in the DR, however know of many in Bangkok. I guess since it's a 22 hour journey it's safe to say you've got the passport stamp and won't go back. Next time try Jakarta, I find the Indo women to be warmer than the Thais however not as attentive. Of course those that are there will differ on that, It's only my experience and I spent a few months there. The DR chicas are hot no doubt, but for all night partying with unbridled debauchery, My vote is Bangkok.
Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder. We all have our individual preferences.
While I've enjoyed many excellent visits to the DR, I wouldn't put it ahead of Thailand. I haven't been there in four years so maybe it's changed. But IMO Thailand is one of the major mongering venues in the World, along with having great food, culture, and beaches. Yeah the language is almost impossible, but that doesn't stop one from enjoying oneself. I think to really judge it you need to spend way more than a couple days there. Just a week in Bangkok isn't a big enough sample size to really make a conclusion. Were you able to get outside of BKK? Pattaya, Phuket, Chang Mai? Thailand really is an incredible country to visit.
There are for sure some very hot Dominicanas, but beauty-wise, I'd rate them below the Brasilenas and Colombianas. But again just my opinion.
No doubt the short trip makes the DR a very tempting choice for those living in the Eastern half of the US or the Midwest. I used to go to Brasil three times a Winter. I keep wanting to return, but I just can't get myself to commit to that overnight flight. And Thailand is an even more arduous flight than Brasil.Sometimes on the Thailand boards someone will bring up that they've been to Sosua. For a lot of those guys going to Sosua is as long a trip as an Eastern USA guy going to Thailand. Having been to both it is interesting to read what they write about Dominican women vs. their beloved Thais. If I only had their word to go on I would have never gone to Sosua! Some guys love surf and others love turf and sometimes one group couldn't imagine loving what the other group loves.
Manizales911
09-26-15, 01:08
Billy Lane aka Dominican Billy passed away today, God rest his soul.
Billy Lane aka Dominican Billy passed away today, God rest his soul.He was unpredictable in his ways but good at heart. His Dominican witch / GF shall undoubtedly manage to seize his property in Puerto Plata.
I heard this famous resort is for sale. I recently ran into some money so I am wondering how much it may sell for?
I am sure there will be expats who can co-invest with me and I can be the investing partner.
Charles Pooter
09-27-15, 15:53
His Dominican witch / GF shall undoubtedly manage to seize his property in Puerto Plata.He did not have any property. The whole Harbor View project was a scam. No-one who purchased an apartment ever got legal title.
She probably got his household effects, but he did not have much, and she was entitled to those.
I met her a couple of months ago in La Sirena. She showed me a picture on her phone of Billy in a hospital bed with a zillion tubes attached. I should think at that point he was more than ready to go, but he hung on for a few more weeks.
Charles Pooter
09-27-15, 16:04
I heard this famous resort is for sale. I recently ran into some money so I am wondering how much it may sell for?Clive, I hope you are joking, but in case not, see post #198 (3rd July) in the Blackbeards section.
http://blackbeardsadultresort.com/hidden/drhfs/
Charles Pooter
09-27-15, 16:09
I recently ran into some money so I am wondering how much it may sell for?
If you are referring to the additional US$200 you now have to play with, that amount won't cut it.
They are asking $2,750,000/US or best offer.
Manizales911
09-27-15, 17:47
If you are referring to the additional US$200 you now have to play with, that amount won't cut it.
They are asking $2,750,000/US or best offer.There are rumors floating around that John is in negotiations with a group looking to buy it, but it is as I said, a rumor.
If you are referring to the additional US$200 you now have to play with, that amount won't cut it.
They are asking $2,750,000/US or best offer.$2.75 M LOL. I wish them luck. Yeah $200 won't cut it. Agreed.
This is not gone to be a long fucking report. Just got back from BB it was a great time. Nice girls nice people. Staff was great. Girls were great. Went to Cabarete every day. (I always rent a car) also had great time for lunch in Sosua at club Cubana. Special thanks to Monica (bartender) cleaning ladies (great people) providers Rosie and Angela or Angie? Great times. All in all seen maybe 10 different girls. All provided great GFE service but Rosie and Angela went above and beyond. Great Time. For me fuck Sosua and all the Motos and bullshit. Fuck that place at night.
Any questions pm me.
Camaro1257
09-29-15, 18:57
Introduction:
Since I have retired to the Dominican Republic I have nothing but leisure time, in that time I have travelled the Island and spent the majority of my time in Puerto Plata and of course Sosua. While life in a foreign country presents a myriad of challenges sometimes I still get bored. I spent time with the whole spectrum of chicas from non, semi and pro but I am still curious so I decided to visit Balckbeards and Field of Dreams. I did a comparison of each venue 2 years ago so I figured I would try again just to do something a little different.
Below I have listed my synopsis for your review:
Locations:
Blackbeard's is in the Costmbar area outside Puerto Plata. It is a laid back gated community with a beach and very comfortable. If you are driving it can be difficult to find since there are no street signs that give directions.
Field of Dreams is on Calle Principal across the street from Playa Dorado in between Puerto Plata and Sosua.
Web Presence:
Blackbeard's has had the same web-site for years the design is quite antiquated but it is easy to navigate and everything is easy to find. Responses to inquiries were responded to in a timely manner.
Field of Dreams has a very modern web site that is very user friendly and informative. The responses were timely but when I arrived I discovered my reservation was not on their calendar. Apparently there is a former employee who has access to the web site but does not correspond with his former employers about web activity. If you don't understand it neither do I.go figure?
Room quality:
Blackbeard's big room was large and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well and I had view of the grounds from the balcony. This room would be excellent for the wife up situation because there was a sitting area as well as a king size bed. The WI-FI worked excellently which was good because my Orange hot-spot was acting up. The furniture was decent and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV.
Field of Dreams basic room was a decent size and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well. I did not use the WI-FI because my Orange hotspot was working well. The furniture was modern and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV. The most interesting thing of course is the murals on the walls. IMHO they are kinda corny but whatever floats your boat.
Payment:
Blackbeard's large room was $75.00 per night. Field of Dreams basic room was $55.00 per night.
Mini Bar fridge:
Blackbeard's. Blackbeard's discourages bringing food and drinks from outside but of course it can be done. The mini-bar had drinks and chips but no candy like last time. I had to suck it up when I got that chocolate craving in the middle of the night. Field of Dreams had no refrigerator or mini-bar and when I woke up in the middle of the night with the munchies I was hurtin.
Safes:
Blackbeard's there was a key safe in the wall of the main closet. Field of Dreams there was a key / combination safe in the wall of the main closet. Management wanted a $50.00 deposit for the key that would be returned upon departure. I passed as I have a combination lock on my luggage.
Bar:
Blackbeard's has 2 bars one downstairs next to the pool and one upstairs where they host events.
Field of Dreams has 1 bar which serves as a front desk and center of all the action.
Grounds:
Blackbeard's grounds were immaculate. Field of Dreams grounds were immaculate.
Restaurants:
Blackbeard's the menu is basically American staples such as hamburgers and french fries but they did have some comida tipica on the menu also. I had the pollo quisado which was absolutely delicious in fact I could go back just to eat theirs it was so tasty.
Field of Dreams the menu was less extensive than Blackbeards and did not include comida tipico. In addition there were 1000 DP items such as 10 oz sirloin steak. In general everything was more expensive than Blackbeards. The food in general was not as good as Blackbeards.
Noise:
Blackbeards during the day there was some repairing going on so I heard some hammering, also you can hear the staff doing their cleaning. At night the music from the club was loud as well as the activity down by the pool.
Field of Dreams At night the music was very loud but during the day there was more of a tranquil atmosphere.
Transportation:
Blackbeards staff can call a moto or taxi per your request. Field of Dreams staff can call a taxi per your request. (no motos because of the location).
Safety:
Blackbeards has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.
Field of Dreams has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.
Blackbeard's Chicas:
The chicas are directly accountable to 1 of 2 Mamasans who have the authority to hire and fire them. All complaints and issues with the chicas are to be resolved through the Mamasan because the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel.
There are 2 groups of chicas, the afternoon shift 11 am- 6 pm approximately a dozen and the evening shift approximately 2 dozen from 5 pm. Midnight. 1800 DP for ST and 3300 DP for TLN. There was a 300 pesos price increase from my last visit which reflects the devaluation of the peso against the dollar.
The majority of the chicas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the Mamasan. The chicas are very friendly with one another and will often approach you in pairs in order to encourage "Happy Hour. " Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together.
The chicas were not as attractive as my last visit where there were some 8's in the house this trip the majority were 6's but at night when they dressed up they came up to 7's.
Field of Dreams Chicas:
The chicas are directly accountable to a Mamasans or the manager on duty. All the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel. Some of the chicas live on the property. One of the chicas told me she lives in one large room with no TV that has 6 beds and sometimes sleeps 10 chicas.
There are 2 groups of chicas the ones who live on sight and the ones who live off sight which straggle in during different parts of the day. The tarifa is 1600 DP for ST and 3000 DP for TLN. This is the same price point as 2 years ago. The majority of the chcas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the management. The chicas are not required to sign in or turn their cell phones in. There would be a dozen chicas on property at any time in comparison to twice as many at Blackbeards.
Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together. The chicas ranged from 5-6 but at night when they changed clothes there were a few that made a beautiful transition and I would give them high 7's.
Check in & Check out:
Blackbeard's has a check in desk, everything went smooth details are reviewed from their handbook and you are given your keys after the manager gives you a brief orientation.
Field of Dreams has a comfortable air-conditioned check in office. There is no handbook or orientation on how things work you are simply given your keys and fend for yourself.
Anecdotal perspective:
Although the talent level was nothing to write home about I saw some cuties both at Field of Dreams and Blackbeards. Both spots make a good diversion for me since I live in the area. I can relax, eat some good food and have my choice of chicas without all the drama of Sosua. I am seriously considering taking a weekend every couple of months and using both venues as a get-away to break my monotony.
Conclusion:
Both Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are inexpensive hotel options where mongers can practice this thing of ours in relative safety. They are excellent places for the novice monger or the veteran monger who does not want to hunt and desires everything at his fingertips. Since they both are controlled environments issues such as negotiation of tarifas, thefts and scams are rarely if ever an issue. The difference between the two options is Blackbeards is far more organized and efficient than Field of Dreams. As I observed from my last visit the talentpool varies so you never know what you are going to get until you arrive.
For all who are interested I encourage you to make a comparison for yourself.
Obviously your retired with that long of a post. Great report! Yes while I was there they were working on jaquuizzi (sp) so there was chipping every morning, it didn't matter to me because I get up at 6 am regardless.
I would never stay at field of dreams (reminds me of a prison) may be a great place but I hate location. They could offer free women and I would never stay there.
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Introduction:
Since I have retired to the Dominican Republic I have nothing but leisure time, in that time I have travelled the Island and spent the majority of my time in Puerto Plata and of course Sosua. While life in a foreign country presents a myriad of challenges sometimes I still get bored. I spent time with the whole spectrum of chicas from non, semi and pro but I am still curious so I decided to visit Balckbeards and Field of Dreams. I did a comparison of each venue 2 years ago so I figured I would try again just to do something a little different.
Below I have listed my synopsis for your review:
Locations:
Blackbeard's is in the Costmbar area outside Puerto Plata. It is a laid back gated community with a beach and very comfortable. If you are driving it can be difficult to find since there are no street signs that give directions.
Field of Dreams is on Calle Principal across the street from Playa Dorado in between Puerto Plata and Sosua.
Web Presence:
Blackbeard's has had the same web-site for years the design is quite antiquated but it is easy to navigate and everything is easy to find. Responses to inquiries were responded to in a timely manner.
Field of Dreams has a very modern web site that is very user friendly and informative. The responses were timely but when I arrived I discovered my reservation was not on their calendar. Apparently there is a former employee who has access to the web site but does not correspond with his former employers about web activity. If you don't understand it neither do I.go figure?
Room quality:
Blackbeard's big room was large and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well and I had view of the grounds from the balcony. This room would be excellent for the wife up situation because there was a sitting area as well as a king size bed. The WI-FI worked excellently which was good because my Orange hot-spot was acting up. The furniture was decent and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV.
Field of Dreams basic room was a decent size and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well. I did not use the WI-FI because my Orange hotspot was working well. The furniture was modern and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV. The most interesting thing of course is the murals on the walls. IMHO they are kinda corny but whatever floats your boat.
Payment:
Blackbeard's large room was $75.00 per night. Field of Dreams basic room was $55.00 per night.
Mini Bar fridge:
Blackbeard's. Blackbeard's discourages bringing food and drinks from outside but of course it can be done. The mini-bar had drinks and chips but no candy like last time. I had to suck it up when I got that chocolate craving in the middle of the night. Field of Dreams had no refrigerator or mini-bar and when I woke up in the middle of the night with the munchies I was hurtin.
Safes:
Blackbeard's there was a key safe in the wall of the main closet. Field of Dreams there was a key / combination safe in the wall of the main closet. Management wanted a $50.00 deposit for the key that would be returned upon departure. I passed as I have a combination lock on my luggage.
Bar:
Blackbeard's has 2 bars one downstairs next to the pool and one upstairs where they host events.
Field of Dreams has 1 bar which serves as a front desk and center of all the action.
Grounds:
Blackbeard's grounds were immaculate. Field of Dreams grounds were immaculate.
Restaurants:
Blackbeard's the menu is basically American staples such as hamburgers and french fries but they did have some comida tipica on the menu also. I had the pollo quisado which was absolutely delicious in fact I could go back just to eat theirs it was so tasty.
Field of Dreams the menu was less extensive than Blackbeards and did not include comida tipico. In addition there were 1000 DP items such as 10 oz sirloin steak. In general everything was more expensive than Blackbeards. The food in general was not as good as Blackbeards.
Noise:
Blackbeards during the day there was some repairing going on so I heard some hammering, also you can hear the staff doing their cleaning. At night the music from the club was loud as well as the activity down by the pool.
Field of Dreams At night the music was very loud but during the day there was more of a tranquil atmosphere.
Transportation:
Blackbeards staff can call a moto or taxi per your request. Field of Dreams staff can call a taxi per your request. (no motos because of the location).
Safety:
Blackbeards has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.
Field of Dreams has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.
Blackbeard's Chicas:
The chicas are directly accountable to 1 of 2 Mamasans who have the authority to hire and fire them. All complaints and issues with the chicas are to be resolved through the Mamasan because the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel.
There are 2 groups of chicas, the afternoon shift 11 am- 6 pm approximately a dozen and the evening shift approximately 2 dozen from 5 pm. Midnight. 1800 DP for ST and 3300 DP for TLN. There was a 300 pesos price increase from my last visit which reflects the devaluation of the peso against the dollar.
The majority of the chicas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the Mamasan. The chicas are very friendly with one another and will often approach you in pairs in order to encourage "Happy Hour. " Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together.
The chicas were not as attractive as my last visit where there were some 8's in the house this trip the majority were 6's but at night when they dressed up they came up to 7's.
Field of Dreams Chicas:
The chicas are directly accountable to a Mamasans or the manager on duty. All the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel. Some of the chicas live on the property. One of the chicas told me she lives in one large room with no TV that has 6 beds and sometimes sleeps 10 chicas.
There are 2 groups of chicas the ones who live on sight and the ones who live off sight which straggle in during different parts of the day. The tarifa is 1600 DP for ST and 3000 DP for TLN. This is the same price point as 2 years ago. The majority of the chcas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the management. The chicas are not required to sign in or turn their cell phones in. There would be a dozen chicas on property at any time in comparison to twice as many at Blackbeards.
Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together. The chicas ranged from 5-6 but at night when they changed clothes there were a few that made a beautiful transition and I would give them high 7's.
Check in & Check out:
Blackbeard's has a check in desk, everything went smooth details are reviewed from their handbook and you are given your keys after the manager gives you a brief orientation.
Field of Dreams has a comfortable air-conditioned check in office. There is no handbook or orientation on how things work you are simply given your keys and fend for yourself.
Anecdotal perspective:
Although the talent level was nothing to write home about I saw some cuties both at Field of Dreams and Blackbeards. Both spots make a good diversion for me since I live in the area. I can relax, eat some good food and have my choice of chicas without all the drama of Sosua. I am seriously considering taking a weekend every couple of months and using both venues as a get-away to break my monotony.
Conclusion:
Both Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are inexpensive hotel options where mongers can practice this thing of ours in relative safety. They are excellent places for the novice monger or the veteran monger who does not want to hunt and desires everything at his fingertips. Since they both are controlled environments issues such as negotiation of tarifas, thefts and scams are rarely if ever an issue. The difference between the two options is Blackbeards is far more organized and efficient than Field of Dreams. As I observed from my last visit the talentpool varies so you never know what you are going to get until you arrive.
For all who are interested I encourage you to make a comparison for yourself..
Introduction:
Since I have retired to the Dominican Republic I have nothing but leisure time, in that time I have travelled the Island and spent the majority of my time in Puerto Plata and of course Sosua. While life in a foreign country presents a myriad of challenges sometimes I still get bored. I spent time with the whole spectrum of chicas from non, semi and pro but I am still curious so I decided to visit Balckbeards and Field of Dreams. I did a comparison of each venue 2 years ago so I figured I would try again just to do something a little different.
Below I have listed my synopsis for your review:
Locations:
Blackbeard's is in the Costmbar area outside Puerto Plata. It is a laid back gated community with a beach and very comfortable. If you are driving it can be difficult to find since there are no street signs that give directions.
Field of Dreams is on Calle Principal across the street from Playa Dorado in between Puerto Plata and Sosua.
Web Presence:
Blackbeard's has had the same web-site for years the design is quite antiquated but it is easy to navigate and everything is easy to find. Responses to inquiries were responded to in a timely manner.
Field of Dreams has a very modern web site that is very user friendly and informative. The responses were timely but when I arrived I discovered my reservation was not on their calendar. Apparently there is a former employee who has access to the web site but does not correspond with his former employers about web activity. If you don't understand it neither do I.go figure?
Room quality:
Blackbeard's big room was large and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well and I had view of the grounds from the balcony. This room would be excellent for the wife up situation because there was a sitting area as well as a king size bed. The WI-FI worked excellently which was good because my Orange hot-spot was acting up. The furniture was decent and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV.
Field of Dreams basic room was a decent size and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well. I did not use the WI-FI because my Orange hotspot was working well. The furniture was modern and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV. The most interesting thing of course is the murals on the walls. IMHO they are kinda corny but whatever floats your boat.
Payment:
Blackbeard's large room was $75.00 per night. Field of Dreams basic room was $55.00 per night.
Mini Bar fridge:
Blackbeard's. Blackbeard's discourages bringing food and drinks from outside but of course it can be done. The mini-bar had drinks and chips but no candy like last time. I had to suck it up when I got that chocolate craving in the middle of the night. Field of Dreams had no refrigerator or mini-bar and when I woke up in the middle of the night with the munchies I was hurtin.
Safes:
Blackbeard's there was a key safe in the wall of the main closet. Field of Dreams there was a key / combination safe in the wall of the main closet. Management wanted a $50.00 deposit for the key that would be returned upon departure. I passed as I have a combination lock on my luggage.
Bar:
Blackbeard's has 2 bars one downstairs next to the pool and one upstairs where they host events.
Field of Dreams has 1 bar which serves as a front desk and center of all the action.
Grounds:
Blackbeard's grounds were immaculate. Field of Dreams grounds were immaculate.
Restaurants:
Blackbeard's the menu is basically American staples such as hamburgers and french fries but they did have some comida tipica on the menu also. I had the pollo quisado which was absolutely delicious in fact I could go back just to eat theirs it was so tasty.
Field of Dreams the menu was less extensive than Blackbeards and did not include comida tipico. In addition there were 1000 DP items such as 10 oz sirloin steak. In general everything was more expensive than Blackbeards. The food in general was not as good as Blackbeards.
Noise:
Blackbeards during the day there was some repairing going on so I heard some hammering, also you can hear the staff doing their cleaning. At night the music from the club was loud as well as the activity down by the pool.
Field of Dreams At night the music was very loud but during the day there was more of a tranquil atmosphere.
Transportation:
Blackbeards staff can call a moto or taxi per your request. Field of Dreams staff can call a taxi per your request. (no motos because of the location).
Safety:
Blackbeards has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.
Field of Dreams has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.
Blackbeard's Chicas:
The chicas are directly accountable to 1 of 2 Mamasans who have the authority to hire and fire them. All complaints and issues with the chicas are to be resolved through the Mamasan because the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel.
There are 2 groups of chicas, the afternoon shift 11 am- 6 pm approximately a dozen and the evening shift approximately 2 dozen from 5 pm. Midnight. 1800 DP for ST and 3300 DP for TLN. There was a 300 pesos price increase from my last visit which reflects the devaluation of the peso against the dollar.
The majority of the chicas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the Mamasan. The chicas are very friendly with one another and will often approach you in pairs in order to encourage "Happy Hour. " Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together.
The chicas were not as attractive as my last visit where there were some 8's in the house this trip the majority were 6's but at night when they dressed up they came up to 7's.
Field of Dreams Chicas:
The chicas are directly accountable to a Mamasans or the manager on duty. All the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel. Some of the chicas live on the property. One of the chicas told me she lives in one large room with no TV that has 6 beds and sometimes sleeps 10 chicas.
There are 2 groups of chicas the ones who live on sight and the ones who live off sight which straggle in during different parts of the day. The tarifa is 1600 DP for ST and 3000 DP for TLN. This is the same price point as 2 years ago. The majority of the chcas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the management. The chicas are not required to sign in or turn their cell phones in. There would be a dozen chicas on property at any time in comparison to twice as many at Blackbeards.
Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together. The chicas ranged from 5-6 but at night when they changed clothes there were a few that made a beautiful transition and I would give them high 7's.
Check in & Check out:
Blackbeard's has a check in desk, everything went smooth details are reviewed from their handbook and you are given your keys after the manager gives you a brief orientation.
Field of Dreams has a comfortable air-conditioned check in office. There is no handbook or orientation on how things work you are simply given your keys and fend for yourself.
Anecdotal perspective:
Although the talent level was nothing to write home about I saw some cuties both at Field of Dreams and Blackbeards. Both spots make a good diversion for me since I live in the area. I can relax, eat some good food and have my choice of chicas without all the drama of Sosua. I am seriously considering taking a weekend every couple of months and using both venues as a get-away to break my monotony.
Conclusion:
Both Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are inexpensive hotel options where mongers can practice this thing of ours in relative safety. They are excellent places for the novice monger or the veteran monger who does not want to hunt and desires everything at his fingertips. Since they both are controlled environments issues such as negotiation of tarifas, thefts and scams are rarely if ever an issue. The difference between the two options is Blackbeards is far more organized and efficient than Field of Dreams. As I observed from my last visit the talentpool varies so you never know what you are going to get until you arrive.
For all who are interested I encourage you to make a comparison for yourself.1. Hey Camaro: You may want to add your thoughts about comparing the facilities like the pool, pool table, massage services / table, and disco / night club on premises for the 2 resorts.
2. And, for those who are not familiar with location of both places, BB 's is in Costambar by the beach (5 minute walk) and has a number of restaurants and bars right on the beach. FOD is pretty much cordoned off from the main highway, and you'd have to have transportation to leave. If you want see any locals!
Husker Dude
09-30-15, 02:58
1. Hey Camaro: You may want to add your thoughts about comparing the facilities like the pool, pool table, massage services / table, and disco / night club on premises for the 2 resorts.
2. And, for those who are not familiar with location of both places, BB 's is in Costambar by the beach (5 minute walk) and has a number of restaurants and bars right on the beach. FOD is pretty much cordoned off from the main highway, and you'd have to have transportation to leave. If you want see any locals!The pool at BB is better than the pool at FOD, as FOD's paint is chipping off, but the freshly painted BB pool will give you blue feet. LOL like a smurf. One of the guys this past week lean on the volleyball net and snapped off one pole. It was hilarious. I was there too when they were redoing the jacuzzi chipping off paint & that white stuff. LOL. There is a disco upstairs in the Crows nest at BB while FOD has no disco. Dancing can be done in the bar area at FOD. FOD is more liberal and anything and everything goes anywhere including the open areas. Pool tables are about equal now. BB has 1 in good shape. FOD has 2 pool tables for pay, I believe 25 p / game. The tables are relatively new so in good shape. The massage at BB is done by Maide & is completely professional. I believe it is 500 p / 1/2 hour, back only. FOD has Maria, a former BB massage lady. I think she does a better job, but is done in your room for $30/ HR. And extras are possible.
Charles Pooter
09-30-15, 02:59
And, for those who are not familiar with location of both places, BB 's is in Costambar by the beach (5 minute walk) and has a number of restaurants and bars right on the beach. FOD is pretty much cordoned off from the main highway, and you'd have to have transportation to leave. If you want see any locals!Depends how you spin the information.
You could equally well say that Field of Dreams is on a main highway with frequent public transport, 24/7, and 25 minutes from Sosua, 10 minutes from Puerto Plata, and 45 minutes from Cabarete, all reachable day and night for a dollar or two. Blackbeards is in Costambar which is a rundown community in the middle of nowhere with a polluted beach. Not very convenient to get in or out of without hiring an expensive cab, and very difficult and potentially dangerous to get back to after dark.
My first trip I stayed two weeks at Blackbeards and loved it. But I never went back once I realised I could find my own chicas, not hardcore and half the price. On my next four trips I stayed a total of six months at Field of Dreams, precisely because it was such a good base from which to explore the whole North Coast at minimal cost. I hate giving taxi-drivers money I can spend better on pussy and the Costambar cabbies are notorious scammers.
I would never recommend Field of Dreams under the current management, whereas Blackbeards continues to offer a good service to those who are content to enjoy "battery" rather than "free range" chicas (such as newbies, the physically unfit, and those mentally incapable of learning a smattering of Spanish), but my withdrawal of support for Field of Dreams has nothing to do with its location, which remains far superior.
Not saying my version is more valid than yours. Just depends on your battle plan and objectives.
My first ever posting -after Was on my once every 6 months visit to Pop a few months ago. Visited FOD twice. I found the selection in FOD to be not great both of those nights. May be there was one girl that was more of a 7. Everyone else was pretty average (5) or below. Picked 1 each day for ST (close to 75 dollars if I remember correctly). Service was pretty decent on both days, even though on Day one, the first girl had to be convinced a little bit to do a BBBJ (as she wanted to do covered).
I didn't quite like the place as well.
Visited Blue Paradise (it was my first time there. As an ex-Oxygen guy. I wanted to give Paradise a try) and while there were only 4 chicas (I showed up with very little notification) the quality was closer to what I expected with all of them minimally being a 7 or more on the rating scale. The place is expensive as it charges closer to 1100 bucks and behaves like an high end offering. The girls there were great and the service was excellent.
I am not sure Blue Paradise is for every traveler as the packages do run expensive.
Charles Pooter
09-30-15, 05:37
it charges closer to 1100 bucksA minute? An hour? A day? A week? A month?
I didn't quite like the place as well.Do I not like that!
Depends how you spin the information.
You could equally well say that Field of Dreams is on a main highway with frequent public transport, 24/7, and 25 minutes from Sosua, 10 minutes from Puerto Plata, and 45 minutes from Cabarete, all reachable day and night for a dollar or two. Blackbeards is in Costambar which is a rundown community in the middle of nowhere with a polluted beach. Not very convenient to get in or out of without hiring an expensive cab, and very difficult and potentially dangerous to get back to after dark.
My first trip I stayed two weeks at Blackbeards and loved it. But I never went back once I realised I could find my own chicas, not hardcore and half the price. On my next four trips I stayed a total of six months at Field of Dreams, precisely because it was such a good base from which to explore the whole North Coast at minimal cost. I hate giving taxi-drivers money I can spend better on pussy and the Costambar cabbies are notorious scammers.
I would never recommend Field of Dreams under the current management, whereas Blackbeards continues to offer a good service to those who are content to enjoy "battery" rather than "free range" chicas (such as newbies, the physically unfit, and those mentally incapable of learning a smattering of Spanish), but my withdrawal of support for Field of Dreams has nothing to do with its location, which remains far superior.
Not saying my version is more valid than yours. Just depends on your battle plan and objectives.Wow a total of Six Months over 4 trips at FOD! Charles I never would have pictured you as being that kind of guy! That's incredible!
Charles Pooter
09-30-15, 13:16
Wow a total of Six Months over 4 trips at FOD! Charles I never would have pictured you as being that kind of guy! That's incredible!After my third DR trip I decided to retire to the DR. Only question was could I stand the summer heat, as I got ill sometimes in England in the summer and, as you know, that is like the Dominican winter (at best). So I booked a twelve-week stay at Field of Dreams mid-June thru mid-Sept as a trial. There were about five days which I had to spend mainly in the pool, but otherwise I was out and about exploring the towns and villages along the North Coast from Luperon to Rio San Juan. Only doable on my slim budget by public transport, for which Field of Dreams was an ideal start point. Lost twenty pounds that vacation from the heat and walking.
Remember that FoD was just a motel then. No in-house chicas to tempt me.
After my third DR trip I decided to retire to the DR.
Remember that FoD was just a motel then. No in-house chicas to tempt me.Charles, I did not know that! Sorry, I thought you were hanging around with the FOD chicas for a majority of those months! LOL. At least the imagery was vivid and somewhat funny to imagine you with the FOD dreams chicas for 4 months! Well, that's long gone now and all we have now a boring old Charles! Haha. Cheers Senor!
A minute? An hour? A day? A week? A month?As an experienced Monger. I thought you would get this right.
It was for a day. Remember that Blue operates as an all-inclusive. So even though my intent to go there was purely to get with a couple of good chicas. They still charge you the all-inclusive rate. They normally don't have anything as a 1-day / night package -but I went there during non-peak and they were able to accommodate. Had a selection of about 6 to choose from (everyone rates 6 or above in my scale) and I chose 2 to spend the night with. The experience was somewhat similar to Oxygen (I have been to Oxygen quite a few times earlier before Rob's passing) but I didn't feel the same vibe as I felt in Oxygen. It is definitely at the expensive end and I am pretty sure if you hunt around in Sosua you could get the same quality after some time hunting. I was not really in a mood to hunt and this was somewhat an easier thing to do. I am not sure if I will give it a try again though.
Kris
Camaro1257
10-05-15, 01:05
Kviar Dance Club which is the old Pure in the Costa Dorada complex in Puerto Plata.
Kviar is the same venue as the old Pure with a new name. I have been going to Kviar Dance Club frequently since I moved to Puerto Plata it is a pleasant diversion from Sosua and Classicos. The club puts you in the mind of Classicos but it is much smaller with 2 levels and several VIP areas. Security is every where big Dominican dudes wearing black suits walk through the crowd making sure everything is copasetic.
There are several differences between Kviar and Classicos the first being all the women that go are not working. Some are hanging with friends celebrating some type of event and others are with dates. On any given night there might be 5-20 women who are obviously working the club as opposed to Classicos where you might have as many as 100 women in the club all of which are working. The talent level varies especially depending on the night. Some nights it is obvious that the chicas are around the way girls then other nights it is obvious by how the chicas dress and carry them selves that they are high end chicas.
I will continue to investigate but what I have discovered is that Kviar is not a discount location for PFP like Rumbas, I doubt very seriously if any women will leave with you for 1500 pesos. One reason being is security expects a propina from the chicas if they are seen leaving with a client. I have been told the propina starts at 1000 pesos and upward. Second some of the chics are from Santiago and as Uncle Rukus has shared with us Santiago PFP is not cheap. The talent level varies but I have seen some strong 8's in there that will definitely give you something to think about. I would start at 2000 pesos and I wouldn't be surprised if some chicas there will not leave for less than 4000 pesos.
Kviar is less than 5 minutes from my place so I plan to visit quite frequently, another thing I failed to mention is occasionally I have seen Sosua pros on dates or working solo. Some Sosua pros actually live in Puerto Plata so unless they have an aversion to working where they live it actually makes more sense to work at Kviar.
Kviar Update.
One of the differences between Kviar and Classicos is it's diversity, the Casino is next door to gamble or to chat in a more laid back atmosphere. Despite the availability of the Casino the night club remains the man attraction. On the weekends there is a 150 pesos cover charge and they give you a drink card valued at the same amount. This would be another difference between Kviar and Classicos because at Classicos the cover charge is 200 pesos everyday of the week and you get no drink card.
When Kviar was Pure it had more of a touristy feel but recently I have noticed a very strong Dominican presence, in fact it has become the premier location for Puerto Plata Dominicans. Therefore if you don't feel comfortable around Dominicans you will not enjoy Kviar. It is not uncommon especially on the weekends for the men to outnumber the women.
Kviar has surprises in the chica department there is the regular crew that show up consistently but then there are others who only come occasionally. I have recently seen one of the chicas in my Puerto Plata network there with her friends whether she was there to work or for fun is any ones best guess.
Another interesting phenomenon is since the tourist crowd at Kviar is down some of the Puerto Plata Kviar chicas are going to Classicos looking for work. In fact one night I was at Classicos I saw one of Kviar's finest and 2 hours later after I left Classicos I stopped in Kviar on my way home and guess who was on post?. Yes the same chica. My biggest complaint would be the crew is small and not diverse like Classicos however there are some definite 8's that come through on a regular basis.
Parkinsons
10-06-15, 00:42
Kviar Dance Club which is the old Pure in the Costa Dorada complex in Puerto Plata.
Thanks for the intel. From your description, P4 P is not the way to go there. How has your success been, with picking up non-pros? (WTF Everytime we say non-pro on this board we have to qualify by saying semi-pro, quasi-pro, quid-pro-quos.) Whatever, ok the girls who go there not with the express intention of turning tricks.
Thanks for the intel. From your description, P4 P is not the way to go there. How has your success been, with picking up non-pros? (WTF Everytime we say non-pro on this board we have to qualify by saying semi-pro, quasi-pro, quid-pro-quos.) Whatever, ok the girls who go there not with the express intention of turning tricks.There are hot non pros all over Puerta Plata. It is up to you. I would never wait until I get to the club and try to meet a hot non pro there. That requires game I. E. Can you talk to a girl in a club and make her want to be with you in front of everyone. If you can and are confident in that environment go for it, but that is not easy. Go to a salon and get your nails done there will be hot women in there and it will be a lot easier to talk to them there than in a club environment.. Walk around. I always have a car so I am always mobile so I can meet women all over at a moments notice and I am never afraid to get turned down as all you need is one to say yes, but you will have failures. I do not not get caught up into people saying all women in DR are pros not true. Now, you are going to pay one way or another just like home on those dates that lead to no where. I met a beautiful women who was a receptionist at a hotel. She worked there and went to college and she made me work for it. Had to take her out we went swimming then had to pay for her to get her hair done at the salon then we went to the club afterwards so I paid and gave her help money at the end of the day, but for me it was worth it. Those people people who say all women are pros you will never see them in the regular clubs meeting hot women because they are not comfortable in that environment and they put you down when you suggest it because they cannot do it. Let's keep it real. I am not listening to someone who never pulls hot women out of regular club for advice. Be a man stand on your own. Someone said it best on another board if you cannot pull a hot non pro where your from do not fool yourself and think it will be easy to go to another country and pull a hot non pro in a club there. Its true. I am a realist I know I need to work at meeting non pros. Nothing wrong with that, but there are 10's all over puerta plata that do not go to sousa, but you have to work at it. Also, it will not be free your paying to make it happen one way or another. Always be real with what it will take.
Camaro1257
10-06-15, 14:36
Thanks for the intel. From your description, P4 P is not the way to go there. How has your success been, with picking up non-pros? (WTF Everytime we say non-pro on this board we have to qualify by saying semi-pro, quasi-pro, quid-pro-quos.) Whatever, ok the girls who go there not with the express intention of turning tricks.I have met a few non-pros in Puerto Plata but none in Kviar as of yet. My observation is non-pros often come in groups of men and women so it can be difficult to discern who is available and who is not. I am still studying the scene because the PFP chics are not always so obvious, some are in play on the low. I have pulled a couple of PFP there but personally I get as much out of the energy of the place as I get from scoring.
Manizales911
10-06-15, 18:35
There are hot non pros all over Puerta Plata. It is up to you. I would never wait until I get to the club and try to meet a hot non pro there. That requires game I. E. Can you talk to a girl in a club and make her want to be with you in front of everyone. If you can and are confident in that environment go for it, but that is not easy. Go to a salon and get your nails done there will be hot women in there and it will be a lot easier to talk to them there than in a club environment.. Walk around. I always have a car so I am always mobile so I can meet women all over at a moments notice and I am never afraid to get turned down as all you need is one to say yes, but you will have failures. I do not not get caught up into people saying all women in DR are pros not true. Now, you are going to pay one way or another just like home on those dates that lead to no where. I met a beautiful women who was a receptionist at a hotel. She worked there and went to college and she made me work for it. Had to take her out we went swimming then had to pay for her to get her hair done at the salon then we went to the club afterwards so I paid and gave her help money at the end of the day, but for me it was worth it. Those people people who say all women are pros you will never see them in the regular clubs meeting hot women because they are not comfortable in that environment and they put you down when you suggest it because they cannot do it. Let's keep it real. I am not listening to someone who never pulls hot women out of regular club for advice. Be a man stand on your own. Someone said it best on another board if you cannot pull a hot non pro where your from do not fool yourself and think it will be easy to go to another country and pull a hot non pro in a club there. Its true. I am a realist I know I need to work at meeting non pros. Nothing wrong with that, but there are 10's all over puerta plata that do not go to sousa, but you have to work at it. Also, it will not be free your paying to make it happen one way or another. Always be real with what it will take.You kind of made the other's point by saying you had to pay for the receptionist's hair salon visit etc. In some people's eyes, mine included that makes her a wh0 re, in a different sense than a girl in Classico's yes, but it still required you to fork out money to get in her pants therefore the end result was the same. My advise to anyone living in Pto Pta, Facebook is your friend if you want "non pros" or just girls that don't work every night. It takes time and can be a pain in the ass to some but I assume someone like Camaro who is retired, time is something he has plenty of.
You kind of made the other's point by saying you had to pay for the receptionist's hair salon visit etc. In some people's eyes, mine included that makes her a wh0 re, in a different sense than a girl in Classico's yes, but it still required you to fork out money to get in her pants therefore the end result was the same. My advise to anyone living in Pto Pta, Facebook is your friend if you want "non pros" or just girls that don't work every night. It takes time and can be a pain in the ass to some but I assume someone like Camaro who is retired, time is something he has plenty of.I think wh--- is a strong word. I also was clear you always have to pay. Show me a 10 in the states and even if she likes you you date her you are paying one way or another dinner, you are not taking her to Mcdonalds everytime you see her. I did not make anyone's point read my original post was very clear. If someone tells me they bang a hot chick who is not working for free in the states i call fantasy. Nothing is for free. Again, i said let's keep it real. Let's remember the salon is 400 pesos that is eight dollars and I insisted because she did not want to get her hair wet because she wanted to go out with me to the club later and would never ask me for money for the salon, so I did not give the board perfect information. Compare that to the bachelor party at the strip club in miami two weeks ago and we dropped $5,000.00 and each girl said they needed another $1,000.00 to leave with us "welcome to miami" we left on our own. Also, I have been to classico recently and eyes are always on the beholder but no comparison to what I saw there with what I had. Again, I am no better than anyone else I just want what I want my way and I am confident in me not to change my way. I went to sousa a couple times and I could write a report but that is only my opinion. I have no problem with sousa in fact got love for it and what it does for people. I am just not a transaction guy I want the challenge and being rejected I can take it. Just keep putting me in coach because I will make the shot eventually. We are all grown men and i always travel solo not following anyone, but me. In me I trust.
My thoughts only. I think there are some great people who give there time to help others. To many to name, but start with Camaro's detailed reports, Charles, International, Gogo, Grownman, Oldkool, etc. I always look at this to have fun and listen to people who have good and bad stories and then you decide what is best for you. I would never expect you to just follow, but be your own man. I am no expert I just give opinion and tell you good and bad experiences. The one thing I will say those people who are good people tend to have the best experiences. Just read their stories and you see how they make evaluations on people and then see how they make decisions based on that perspective. It is all there for you decide what works for you.
Camaro1257
10-10-15, 16:25
Puerto Plata Chica Networks.
I will continue to visit Sosua when the mood hits me because sometimes I like the energy and I still have a quite a few "bucket list" chicas I want to hit, however working these Puerto Plata chica networks has shown me I never have to return to Sosua if I do not want to. I have met several semi pros and pros who have in turn introduced me to their friends.
The Puerto Plata chica networks are divided into groups of women who share common interest. For example some are in their 20's and have not completed High School (Bachillier) others are the same age but are in the University (UTESA). Some are not employed and others are under employed working menial waitress jobs etc. The deeper I get I find prices all over the map depending on the group and how the chica perceives herself from 1000-3000 pesos. The chics that want 2000+ are the more professional type although their sex is not always better than the semi-pros who will settle for 1000-1500 pesos.
Some chics will get attached individually but others have no problem passing you on to their friends or even family members. I play the game similar to my e-mongering internet strategy make the greeting, go to whatsapp, confirm photos on Facebook then try to meet. Currently when I meet one of these chicas who has Facebook I go through her Facebook copy the photos I like and see if the subject chica can make referrals. Often times the chics that I like are unavailable for various reasons boyfriends marriage etc.
I place these chics in 2 basic categories, they are either short time cabana chicas or potential long term FWB chicas. I have yet to connect with a long term FWB chica however the search continues.
Camaro1257
10-10-15, 16:27
My thoughts only. I think there are some great people who give there time to help others. To many to name, but start with Camaro's detailed reports, Charles, International, Gogo, Grownman, Oldkool, etc. I always look at this to have fun and listen to people who have good and bad stories and then you decide what is best for you. I would never expect you to just follow, but be your own man. I am no expert I just give opinion and tell you good and bad experiences. The one thing I will say those people who are good people tend to have the best experiences. Just read their stories and you see how they make evaluations on people and then see how they make decisions based on that perspective. It is all there for you decide what works for you.My intent is to provide a roadmap that is easy to follow for all who are interested.
My intent is to provide a roadmap that is easy to follow for all who are interested.You achieve that and much more. You provide the necessary background information that is missing on most other forums, combined with a reasonably objective impression. Too many posts are extremely biased.
Camaro1257
10-10-15, 22:01
You achieve that and much more. You provide the necessary background information that is missing on most other forums, combined with a reasonably objective impression. Too many posts are extremely biased.I will continue to share information on the ground that I hope will be of assistance.
Because you are now an expat in the thick of DR life have you encountered any anti gringo friction. I have on 2 occasion while out with DR chicas. Nothing real hard but a coolness that was obvious.
Puerto Plata Chica Networks.
I will continue to visit Sosua when the mood hits me because sometimes I like the energy and I still have a quite a few "bucket list" chicas I want to hit, however working these Puerto Plata chica networks has shown me I never have to return to Sosua if I do not want to. I have met several semi pros and pros who have in turn introduced me to their friends.
The Puerto Plata chica networks are divided into groups of women who share common interest. For example some are in their 20's and have not completed High School (Bachillier) others are the same age but are in the University (UTESA). Some are not employed and others are under employed working menial waitress jobs etc. The deeper I get I find prices all over the map depending on the group and how the chica perceives herself from 1000-3000 pesos. The chics that want 2000+ are the more professional type although their sex is not always better than the semi-pros who will settle for 1000-1500 pesos.
Some chics will get attached individually but others have no problem passing you on to their friends or even family members. I play the game similar to my e-mongering internet strategy make the greeting, go to whatsapp, confirm photos on Facebook then try to meet. Currently when I meet one of these chicas who has Facebook I go through her Facebook copy the photos I like and see if the subject chica can make referrals. Often times the chics that I like are unavailable for various reasons boyfriends marriage etc.
I place these chics in 2 basic categories, they are either short time cabana chicas or potential long term FWB chicas. I have yet to connect with a long term FWB chica however the search continues.
Charles Pooter
10-11-15, 20:39
Because you are now an expat in the thick of DR life have you encountered any anti gringo friction. I have on 2 occasion while out with DR chicas. Nothing real hard but a coolness that was obvious.Very possible, but how can you tell it was "anti-gringo" rather than "anti-black" or "anti-American" or even just sexual jealousy if you are an older guy with an attractive young dominicana?
Camaro1257
10-11-15, 21:32
Because you are now an expat in the thick of DR life have you encountered any anti gringo friction. I have on 2 occasion while out with DR chicas. Nothing real hard but a coolness that was obvious.I have not experienced any overt anti-gringo friction. I don't know how to perceive it but Dominican men stare at me all the time; I have talked to other ex-pats who experience the same thing so apparently it means nothing other than curiosity. I have noticed that regular Dominican women generally do not give me the attention that women in Sosua do but once again that is normal therefore I cannot say thus far I have experienced any anti-gringo friction.
Very possible, but how can you tell it was "anti-gringo" rather than "anti-black" or "anti-American" or even just sexual jealousy if you are an older guy with an attractive young dominicana?Yes, I don't know either. Perhaps I have encountered it, but am blind to it. In general Dominicans seem to perceive gringos as a likely source of some kind of income and will often be over friendly. What age group are we talking about and in what circumstances? Of course if they are Jehovah's Witnesses and you are with a hooker in a short skirt and bare belly, their approval might be muted.
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