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HappyShiva
04-06-18, 12:29
PM me when you are at BBs. I wouldn't mind some experienced company.I will be at BB on April 27th until May 1st.

Charles Pooter
04-06-18, 13:01
I might sounds way too savvy but I am very concern what US has posted traveling to DR.

I know mosquito likes to draw first blood as soon as touchdown!

Health concerns Summary.

The following may pose a risk or require preventive measures based on this itinerary. See the report sections below for details.

L Vaccine-Preventable Diseases: cholera, hepatitis A, hepatitis be, influenza, measles, mumps, rubella, rabies, typhoid fever l Malaria l Other Diseases: dengue, leishmaniasis, leptospirosis, schistosomiasis, sexually transmitted infections, travelers' diarrhea, tuberculosis, West Nile virus, Zika.Why have you posted about that notorious death-trap Punta Cana in the Puerto Plata section? There is no disease in Puerto Plata. The city is under divine protection.

Yanqui69
04-06-18, 16:26
I might sounds way too savvy but I am very concern what US has posted traveling to DR.

I know mosquito likes to draw first blood as soon as touchdown!

Health concerns Summary.

The following may pose a risk or require preventive measures based on this itinerary. See the report sections below for details.

L Vaccine-Preventable Diseases: cholera, hepatitis A, hepatitis be, influenza, measles, mumps, rubella, rabies, typhoid fever l Malaria l Other Diseases: dengue, leishmaniasis, leptospirosis, schistosomiasis, sexually transmitted infections, travelers' diarrhea, tuberculosis, West Nile virus, Zika.Charles Pooter has already addressed this, somewhat, but here's my two cents. Wildy exaggerated. Cholera? Tuberculosis? Seriously? Diarrhea is a problem in many areas of the world, but use of bottled water, and careful selection of where one eats raw fruit, vegetables, salad, addresses that. I DO recommend bringing insect repellant; not so much for fear of Malaria, just the pesky mosquito bites. Where bottled water is not available, a drop of chlorine bleach in a liter of water is a good idea.

Charles Pooter
04-06-18, 23:00
I was somewhat cautious before my first visit to the DR thirteen years ago but I had never visited a tropical or sub-tropical country before. I visited my local health center for free advice. Besides adopting their recommendations about mosquitos, I submitted to an anti-tetanus course of injections. This put my mind at ease somewhat when, prowling round Munoz at midnight, I tripped over a sleeping dog during a power outage and it bit my ankle.

But what I remember most about my conversation with the middle-aged female nurse was our discussion of hepatitis. She said those mainly in danger were females squatting to [CodeWord111] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111) when in the countryside. Of course, another major risk was through sexual activity but "obviously this would not apply in your case". Boy, was I insulted! I was only 65 at the time. Little did she know that over the next three years I would be enjoying five times as much sexual activity as in the previous forty years put together, and with twenty times as many different partners.

My main health advice to the poster is "Let sleeping dogs lie".

Ironic he is worried about travelling to Punta Cana, an area of the DR which is sanitized (as far as possible) to appeal to First World visitors. So sanitized that I would not visit there for free. I will take a week in Munoz anytime (unless it is a week of rain when one has to wade through sewage).

Pokeris
04-07-18, 02:55
Kviar disco and casino. Arrived from black beards resort with uber for 225 pesos around 23.45 am last night. Was little bit people inside the club in modern many different colour lights on all walls sit order presidente light for 150 pesos couple of girls inside not busy yet, so I finish my beer and go downstairs to casino play little bit. Order beer after I ask how much it is they told me is for free. Later I comeback disco see some girl and come sit next to her she was speaking good English we talk for a while and I ask her how much she want for all night? She said 5000 pesos I said I can give you 3000. She said no 3500 for short time if you want I just finish my beer and go look other girls but all other girls was in groups or with local guys seems they come here just for party. So I sit alone ordered sisha for 800 pesos smoke and drink more beer. After some girls just with bikinis and bra start dance and walk to costumers sits on the lap and shake her ass and tits near and asking tips for that. One girl come to me shake her ass I touch her little bit after 30 seconds she said money money! I put 50 pesos under her panties seems she wasn't happy with 50 pesos and walk away!! I drink more beer and go play casino again it was around 3 pm the girl who refuse before my offer for 3000 all night saw I am leaving and follow me to casino come to me and start look how I am playing. I told her again 3000 all night ok? She agree and we left together comeback hotel to the room take shower and jump to bed. I want to fuck her but she told me she is tired and want sleep. I said if you don't like go away I pay you not for sleeping!! She said give me 3000 and I am leaving I said I will fuck you now and give you 1500 and you can go. She said no 3000 we fuck and I am go. She makes me angry so I said if you don't want you will not get nothing because we didn't fuck yet. She start.

Shout give money I said no!! She takes her phone and said I am calling police I said do what you want!! I was mad!! She call on phone somewhere and I heard other women voice on her phone she talk with her something for couple of minutes but I didn't understand just understand couple of words like client don't want pay or something!! But suddenly the lady on phone drop call for crazy *****!! She try call again but nobody answer for her it was like 5 am morning. Girl said me again give my money and I go I said I can call you uber and go or do your job I fuck you and give you 1500 pesos and go. She sit at bed and just sit about 40 minutes I watch youtube videos and drink more beer. Later I said to her you just waste my and your time I don't pay you anyway!! She get mad open the fridge and smashed bottle of presidente at floor. She make me so mad I jump from bed and want to hit her already but control myself somehow and said if you smash something more I call security or I will throw you out from room and you walk home. She saw my mad face and said I work for boss I need pay I spend time with you pay!! I said for her you are freelancer you don't work for anybody!! She start talking something in Spanish non stop for couple of minutes but I don't understand nothing I said speak English she stop and said call taxi I try find uber but wasn't any uber around at this time. So she call taxi herself somewhere and said me.

300 pesos. I said ok we go outside and I pay driver when he comes after 20 minutes driver arrive I escort her outside give for driver 300 pesos and quickly walk back inside and she left. I think I am quiet lucky I get away just with 300 pesos with that crazy ***** it could be much worst. In 8 years my mongering time this is just my second so bad experience I have just one worst couple years ago at Uganda when ***** start to fighting with hotel.

Night security guy at my hotel room they was beating each other but its diffrent story already.

PuntingGeorge
04-07-18, 03:03
Kviar disco and casino. Arrived from black beards resort with uber for 225 pesos around 23.45 am last night. Was little bit people inside the club in modern many diffrent colour lights on all walls sit order presidente light for 150 pesos couple of girls inside not busy yet, so I finish my beer and go downstairs to casino play little bit. Order beer after I ask how much it is they told me is for free. Later I comeback disco see some girl and come sit next to her she was speaking good english we talk for a while and I ask her how much she want for all night? She said 5000 pesos I said I can give you 3000. She said no 3500 for short time if you want I just finish my beer and go look other girls but all other girls was in groups or with local guys seems they come here just for party. So I sit alone orderer sisha for 800 pesos smoke and drink more beer. After some girls just with bikinis and bra start dance and walk to costumers sits on the lap and shake her ass and tits near and asking tips for that. One girl come to me shake her ass I touch her little bit after 30 seconds she said money money!! I put 50 pesos under her panties seems she wasnt happy with 50 pesos and walk away!! I drink more beer and go play casino again it was around 3 pm the girl who refuse before my offer for 3000 all night saw I am leaving and follow me to casino come to me and start look how I am playing. I told her again 3000 all night ok? She agree and we left together comeback hotel to the room take shower and jump to bed. I want to fuck her but she told me she is tired and want sleep. I said if you don't like go away I pay you not for sleeping!! She said give me 3000 and I am leaving I said I will fuck you now and give you 1500 and you can go. She said no 3000 we fuck and I am go. She makes me angry so I said if you don't want you will not get nothing because we didint fuck yet. She start.

Shout give money I said no!! She takes her phone and said I am calling police I said do what you want!! I was mad!! She call on phone somewhere and I heard other women voice on her phone she talk with her something for couple of minutes but I didint understand just understand couple of words like client don't want pay or something!! But suddendly the lady on phone drop call for crazy *****!! She try call again but nobody answer for her it was like 5 am morning. Girl said me again give my money and I go I said I can call you uber and go or do your job I fuck you and give you 1500 pesos and go. She sit at bed and just sit about 40 minutes I watch youtube videos and drink more beer. Later I said to her you just waste my and your time I don't pay you anyway!! She get mad open the fridge and smashed bootle of presidente at floor. She make me so mad I jump from bed and want to hit her already but control myself somehow and said if you smash something more I call security or I will throw you out from room and you walk home. She saw my mad face and said I work for boss I need pay I spend time with you pay!! I said for her you are freelancer you don't work for anybody!! She start talking something in spanish non stop for couple of minutes but I don't understand nothing I said speak english she stop and said call taxi I try find uber but wasnt any uber around at this time. So she call taxi herself somewhere and said me.

300 pesos. I said ok we go outside and I pay driver when he comes after 20 minutes driver arrive I escort her outside give for driver 300 pesos and quickly walk back inside and she left. I think I am quiet lucky I get away just with 300 pesos with that crazy ***** it could be much worst. In 8 years my mongering time this is just my second so bad expierence I have just one worst couple years ago at uganda when ***** start to fighting with hotel.

Night security guy at my hotel room they was beating each other but its diffrent story already.Woah what a horrible experience. I had a similar, although nowhere near as bad, experience on my first ever night in Sosua, but I was staying in an airbnb with no security. I moved to a hotel the next day and have never had such a problem since. Did security where you were staying hold on to her cedula? That usually encourages them to behave.

Pokeris
04-07-18, 03:09
I didn't ask her to leave her cedula to security I thought it closed area and locked at night and was drunk a bit my mistake also we always learn from mistakes.

Charles Pooter
04-07-18, 03:24
Did security where you were staying hold on to her cedula?Where were you staying, Pokeris? I seem to have missed that bit.

Mr Enternational
04-07-18, 05:03
Where were you staying, Pokeris? I seem to have missed that bit.Black Beards.

Mr Enternational
04-07-18, 05:10
In 8 years my mongering time this is just my second so bad expierence I have just one worst couple years ago at uganda when ***** start to fighting with hotel.
Woah what a horrible experience. I had a similar, although nowhere near as bad, experience on my first ever night in SosuaLOL. Welcome to DR! The DR guys will say you are the problem and not the girl. Or pay her to go away to avoid conflict.

Charles Pooter
04-07-18, 13:21
Blackbeards.I saw that but assumed he had since moved on. So he took a hooker from Kviar back to Blackbeards? Why would anyone want to do that?

Yanqui69
04-07-18, 17:05
LOL. Welcome to DR! The DR guys will say you are the problem and not the girl. Or pay her to go away to avoid conflict."Mongering is like a box of chocolates, ya never know whatcher going to git ".

I echo Charles Pooter's reaction. Why would anyone staying at Blackbeards bring one in "off the street?

BB's chicas provide a little quality control, and the thieves, drama queens, scams, etc, get screened out. The guys that write off BBs as "shooting fish in a barrel" enjoy the trolling process, and the "excitement? Of the game. Like a crapshoot, its Lucky 7 or Snake Eyes. If you enjoy gambling you have to be prepared to lose, once in a while.

Pokeris
04-07-18, 18:29
I saw that but assumed he had since moved on. So he took a hooker from Kviar back to Blackbeards? Why would anyone want to do that?Its not means you staying at blackbeards resort so you need stuck just with BB girls.

Charles Pooter
04-07-18, 19:50
The DR guys will say you are the problem and not the girl.


order presidente light for 150 pesos


Order beer


So I sit alone ... and drink more beer.


I drink more beer


I watch youtube videos and drink more beer.


I ... was drunk


I didint ask her to leave her cedula to security.Judging by the above quotes, I would say he is a large part of the problem.

Charles Pooter
04-07-18, 20:55
Its not means you staying at blackbeards resort so you need stuck just with BB girls.Indeed not. Your plan is obviously better, find someone outside who is more expensive and gives you a load of trouble.

Charles Pooter
04-07-18, 21:05
The guys that write off BBs as "shooting fish in a barrel" enjoy the trolling process, and the "excitement" of the game. But guys that write off BB girls do not usually stay there. That is just weird.


It's Lucky 7 or Snake Eyes. If you enjoy gambling you have to be prepared to lose, once in a while.But experienced gamblers can shade the odds in their favor. They may still lose, but slower or less often. Same with mongering. After a few trips you develop an alarm system which warns of troublesome chicas. If you are drunk it is like switching off your alarm system.

GrownMan1
04-08-18, 00:22
I drink more beer and go play casino again it was around 3 pm the girl who refuse before my offer for 3000 all night saw I am leaving and follow me to casino come to me and start look how I am playing. I told her again 3000 all night ok? She agree and we left together comeback hotel to the room take shower and jump to bed. I want to fuck her but she told me she is tired and want sleep. I said if you don't like go away I pay you not for sleeping!! She said give me 3000 and I am leaving I said I will fuck you now and give you 1500 and you can go. She said no 3000 we fuck and I am go. She makes me angry so I said if you don't want you will not get nothing because we didint fuck yet. She start.

Shout give money I said no!! She takes her phone and said I am calling police I said do what you want!! I was mad!

She is a chicken hawk and you are a chicken. So she thought. Her plan from the jump was to try you. IMHO 3000 pesos for all night was a pretty good standard payment. Somewhere in her Observation and or starvation she figured this guy is new I'm going to do try him. The average rush Chica would have had sex with you to try to hurry up and get those 3000 pesos out your pocket. Then get an unexpected phone call and make up an excuse to leave.

OssieMan
04-08-18, 19:42
Why have you posted about that notorious death-trap Punta Cana in the Puerto Plata section? There is no disease in Puerto Plata. The city is under divine protection.LOL, looking at the map PP it has not Zika or other bug roaming around!!

I guess I am going to get as many anti** shots as my body can handled.

Last time I visited the tropical my significant other got her legs swallowed, to it to the doc cost me $40 bucks for the consult and antibiotics were prescribed.

OssieMan
04-09-18, 19:51
Charles Pooter has already addressed this, somewhat, but here's my two cents. Wildy exaggerated. Cholera? Tuberculosis? Seriously? Diarrhea is a problem in many areas of the world, but use of bottled water, and careful selection of where one eats raw fruit, vegetables, salad, addresses that. I DO recommend bringing insect repellant; not so much for fear of Malaria, just the pesky mosquito bites. Where bottled water is not available, a drop of chlorine bleach in a liter of water is a good idea.Thank you for your comment, there is judge demand of vaccination before traveling to these locations base of US Health dept. I think it just a large amount of info send by the local doc providers in order to get you or the insurance to pay for it.

I will really consider those items you have listed and avoid taking bunch none sense pills!!

Yanqui69
04-10-18, 17:21
Thank you for your comment, there is judge demand of vaccination before traveling to these locations base of US Health dept. I think it just a large amount of info send by the local doc providers in order to get you or the insurance to pay for it.

I will really consider those items you have listed and avoid taking bunch none sense pills!!Many official publications will be overly cautious, to protect themselves from accusations of negligence. Charles Pooter has been a resident in the Puerto Plata area for years, and he would mention any serious health concerns. The Zika virus was in the headlines last year, and to some extent, there have been occasional cases of Dengue. There is no vaccine for Zika yet, but its greatest threat is to pregnant women and men planning on fatherhood. In my opinion, the best prevention is bringing plenty of mosquito repellent. For the diarrhea, use bottled water for consumption, and be careful where you eat raw vegetables / salads. They should be washed in chlorinated water. Oh, and most importantly, USE CONDOMS.

OssieMan
04-10-18, 17:32
Many official publications will be overly cautious, to protect themselves from accusations of negligence. Charles Pooter has been a resident in the Puerto Plata area for years, and he would mention any serious health concerns. The Zika virus was in the headlines last year, and to some extent, there have been occasional cases of Dengue. There is no vaccine for Zika yet, but its greatest threat is to pregnant women and men planning on fatherhood. In my opinion, the best prevention is bringing plenty of mosquito repellent. For the diarrhea, use bottled water for consumption, and be careful where you eat raw vegetables / salads. They should be washed in chlorinated water. Oh, and most importantly, USE CONDOMS.At Yanqui-69 , thanks for your comments! I totally have been blinded site it by all this travel propaganda BS. It will cost me $* to get all the recommendation guidelines by my Doc.

I am very sure protection + blue pills I can get at the local pharmacy in PT / PC.

Still I need to ID escorts for the Gingos versus escorts for the locals. I have noticed is a huge diff between prices and services.

Charles Pooter
04-10-18, 23:30
Charles Pooter has been a resident in the Puerto Plata area for years, and he would mention any serious health concerns. Ten years now on a small budget. Locals get those diseases you mention, and other complaints, but not gringos. It is down to diet and hygienic living conditions, especially using bottled water a fridge / freezer for storing food.

Before I moved here I visited for three years and suffered sometimes from stomach problems and a lot from mosquito bites. Strangely the mosquitoes rarely trouble me now. I think the blood must develop a natural resistance.

OssieMan
04-11-18, 04:23
Ten years now on a small budget. Locals get those diseases you mention, and other complaints, but not gringos. It is down to diet and hygienic living conditions, especially using bottled water a fridge / freezer for storing food.

Before I moved here I visited for three years and suffered sometimes from stomach problems and a lot from mosquito bites. Strangely the mosquitoes rarely trouble me now. I think the blood must develop a natural resistance.Uh! I was looking forward to get DFK and BBBJ with some of the local providers but I guess is a no no now, full protection I guess is a must. Also, I heard that dehydration is one of the big concerns due to the high temperature and humanity.

I heard some people expend up to six months before they immune system get comfortable wit the new environment. I only going to expend two weeks so I better wear a giant latex glove around me.

Yanqui69
04-11-18, 16:33
At Yanqui-69 , thanks for your comments! I totally have been blinded site it by all this travel propaganda BS. It will cost me $* to get all the recommendation guidelines by my Doc.

I am very sure protection + blue pills I can get at the local pharmacy in PT / PC.

Still I need to ID escorts for the Gingos versus escorts for the locals. I have noticed is a huge diff between prices and services.No problem. Charles Pooter made another authoritative comment on the subject yesterday. My own comment, I first visited the RD / DR about 13 years ago, and have visited almost every year since then. Never had a serious health problem. Occasional bouts of diarrhea, which I attribute to food consumed. Mosquitoes were a problem, but repellent solves that.

No comments on escorts, but you have not mentioned what your travel plans are. All inclusive resort, Sosua trolling, BB visit, etc?

OssieMan
04-11-18, 17:41
No problem. Charles Pooter made another authoritative comment on the subject yesterday. My own comment, I first visited the RD / DR about 13 years ago, and have visited almost every year since then. Never had a serious health problem. Occasional bouts of diarrhea, which I attribute to food consumed. Mosquitoes were a problem, but repellent solves that.

No comments on escorts, but you have not mentioned what your travel plans are. All inclusive resort, Sosua trolling, BB visit, etc?My travel plans are: all inclusive resort in PP, visiting PT trolling for a couple of days. I find myself free doing pretty much nothing early in the mornings which I doubt there is any action!

Charles Pooter
04-11-18, 22:14
Uh! I was looking forward to get DFK and BBBJ with some of the local providers but I guess is a no no now, full protection I guess is a must. I would guess 95% of mongers on this board prefer BBBJ to covered, and many will walk away if not available. BBBJ is widely available in the DR. Locals rarely use condoms for sex together. Your choice, but if I thought I had to cover up each and every time I would choose another country, or stay in my own country and jerk off.

DFK is not widely available and is more dangerous to your health. As you are obviously a valetudinarian (health nut in plain English) I am surprised you would contemplate it. I would gladly accept it if offered (provided the chica was not a smoker and if she had eaten garlic then so had I) but it was rarely offered. They save that stuff for their real lovers (usually some contemptible tiguere).


Also, I heard that dehydration is one of the big concerns due to the high temperature and humanity.I am willing to blame what passes for humanity in the DR for most things, but not for dehydration.


My travel plans are: all inclusive resort in PP, visiting PT trolling for a couple of days.
Not sure what you mean by "all-inclusive" in PP. If you mean scam artists like Playboy Vacation or DR Nights who provide bed, food, drinks and chicas for the price, you may be in for a massive disappointment. See the recent posts in the (misleadingly titled) Oxygen Retreat section below. You would be far better off at Blackbeards or even Field of Dreams (now operating as Oasis Adult Resort).

If you just mean a holiday hotel where your flight, food and drinks are included for a package price, that is different. But you do realize you can only book in one chica throughout your stay?

Where or what is PT?

Yanqui69
04-12-18, 17:00
I would guess 95% of mongers on this board prefer BBBJ to covered, and many will walk away if not available. BBBJ is widely available in the DR. Locals rarely use condoms for sex together. Your choice, but if I thought I had to cover up each and every time I would choose another country, or stay in my own country and jerk off.

DFK is not widely available and is more dangerous to your health. As you are obviously a valetudinarian (health nut in plain English) I am surprised you would contemplate it. I would gladly accept it if offered (provided the chica was not a smoker and if she had eaten garlic then so had I) but it was rarely offered. They save that stuff for their real lovers (usually some contemptible tiguere).

I am willing to blame what passes for humanity in the DR for most things, but not for dehydration.


Not sure what you mean by "all-inclusive" in PP. If you mean scam artists like Playboy Vacation or DR Nights who provide bed, food, drinks and chicas for the price, you may be in for a massive disappointment. See the recent posts in the (misleadingly titled) Oxygen Retreat section below. You would be far better off at Blackbeards or even Field of Dreams (now operating as Oasis Adult Resort).

If you just mean a holiday hotel where your flight, food and drinks are included for a package price, that is different. But you do realize you can only book in one chica throughout your stay?

Where or what is PT?Ossie,

Charles Pooter is giving good advice. On your preferences, everything has to be negotiated beforehand, if possible. BBBJ is really not a problem is most cases. When I recommend condoms, its not as necessary for oral sex. That said, Sir Charles is right about DFK. Do you really want that from a prostitute who gives BBBJ? Are there such things as mouth condoms?

Seems you are describing Playa Dorada, or something comparable. As Sir Charles said earlier, you could experiment with Oasis (formerly Field of Dreams) just across the road from Playa Dorada. Reviews have been mixed on its quality, but hard to beat for convenience. If you go trolling in Sosua, you'll probably want a short term room there. Consider Hotel Europa Plaza, a long time mongering center. Also, possibly Blackbeard's or Barba Negra, as the locals say, in Costambar.

Also, consider Barba Negra for your next trip. For a new monger in the DR, it has the convenience, controlled environment, and quality control that you may like. (Girls screened for behavior, regular health checks, etc).

Mr Enternational
04-12-18, 17:17
That said, Sir Charles is right about DFK. Do you really want that from a prostitute who gives BBBJ?Most of these guys are eating these chicks out anyway so what is the difference? As one monger once wrote on ISG, "Give her a shower and brush her teeth and she is good as new!"

Oakie
04-12-18, 18:03
Ten years now on a small budget. Locals get those diseases you mention, and other complaints, but not gringos. It is down to diet and hygienic living conditions, especially using bottled water a fridge / freezer for storing food.

Before I moved here I visited for three years and suffered sometimes from stomach problems and a lot from mosquito bites. Strangely the mosquitoes rarely trouble me now. I think the blood must develop a natural resistance.!0 years and no problems, except for a couple "acts of god" accidents.

When I first came down her I caught the local gripe from the chicas, and diarea from the change of food and water.

Now I thrive on the food, and those upset stomachs and the runs are a thing of the past. Forgot I even have a stomach! Not even a hang over from a night of Presidente and mamajuana! Never felt better! Always bareback with my regular chicas.

I agree we are (or become) immune to most of the stuff the locals suffer from.

How many pictures do gringos send from hospital beds to chicas? Lol!

OssieMan
04-12-18, 22:17
!0 years and no problems, except for a couple "acts of god" accidents.

When I first came down her I caught the local gripe from the chicas, and diarea from the change of food and water.

Now I thrive on the food, and those upset stomachs and the runs are a thing of the past. Forgot I even have a stomach! Not even a hang over from a night of Presidente and mamajuana! Never felt better! Always bareback with my regular chicas.

I agree we are (or become) immune to most of the stuff the locals suffer from.

How many pictures do gringos send from hospital beds to chicas? Lol!The logical explanation is that the food you consumed eventually developed a strong tolerance against the local diseases.

OssieMan
04-12-18, 23:21
Ossie,

Charles Pooter is giving good advice. On your preferences, everything has to be negotiated beforehand, if possible. BBBJ is really not a problem is most cases. When I recommend condoms, its not as necessary for oral sex. That said, Sir Charles is right about DFK. Do you really want that from a prostitute who gives BBBJ? Are there such things as mouth condoms?

Seems you are describing Playa Dorada, or something comparable. As Sir Charles said earlier, you could experiment with Oasis (formerly Field of Dreams) just across the road from Playa Dorada. Reviews have been mixed on its quality, but hard to beat for convenience. If you go trolling in Sosua, you'll probably want a short term room there. Consider Hotel Europa Plaza, a long time mongering center. Also, possibly Blackbeard's or Barba Negra, as the locals say, in Costambar.

Also, consider Barba Negra for your next trip. For a new monger in the DR, it has the convenience, controlled environment, and quality control that you may like. (Girls screened for behavior, regular health checks, etc).In my youngest years I used to play Russian roulette, I think I over pass those years. Similar experience I have in Mexico last year, I FDK a chica before returning to the Estates, I got really sick with the flu. Coincident or no I blamed it to the hobby. This time I am planning to play save as much as I can and not be able to bring anything back home.

Charles Pooter
04-26-18, 02:55
Oakie posted this in the Sosua section. I am commenting here, which seems more appropriate.


The Malecon in PP was always a blur to me as I would drive past it on my way to La Serena! I spent a day there yesterday!

This area (and Costambar) has replaced Sosua and Cabarete as my favorite place to take a good friend, and spend a day.For many years I have been urging mongers from both Sosua and Blackbeards to try an afternoon on the Malecon for a change of scenery. Delighted you have now discovered it. When there, I usually hang at Hans' caseta (caseta no. 9 opposite Zona Acapella bar and disco). Except on Tuesdays when they are closed and I move to Big Lee's (the next caseta going east). I hope we will meet there one afternoon.


Note: Get your local chica to arrange the transportation and save a bundle!This part puzzled me. To reach the Malecon from Sosua by publico will cost 55 pesos (by day, 65 pesos after 6 pm). Probably worth paying double to have the whole front seat to yourself. Get out at the baseball stadium and take a motoconcho (30 pesos per person) the rest of the way. So even if you have a chica and buy the whole back seat (4 places) it will only cost you 280 pesos each way.

Even if a chica could negotiate a discount, I cannot see how that would amount to "a bundle". But in fact, she cannot. Publico fares are fixed and strictly adhered to. Neither God nor Presidente Danilo could prevail upon a driver to give a discount. They would be more scared of their cartel and of the other passengers.

I do not know how convenient Uber is in Sosua. That would be another economic method, but I do not think any local chica could negotiate Uber better than a gringo.

Of course, we do have members who think their shit don't stink and would only make the journey by private taxi, but I know you are not one of those, Oakie, as you you have posted amply on how ordinary Dominicans are the salt of the Earth and how we are honored to rub shoulders with them. Indeed, I imagine you would even forego the chance to buy double seats, so that you can benefit from the full experience of a sweaty crush.

Charles Pooter
04-26-18, 03:14
Get your local chica to arrange the transportation and save a bundle!This did remind me of a funny Pto Pta story from my early days, when I was staying at the old Field of Dreams, which at the time did not allow putas to hang on the premises.

The handy-man arranged for a recommended chica to visit me from Cafemba (near Costambar). Eventually I saw his moto mate drive into the car-park with a very pretty and very young chica. They disappeared from my sight behind the outbuildings. I waited with a hard-on. And waited. And waited. How long does it take for her to pay him and walk twenty yards to my door? After fifteen minutes he drove off and she knocked on my door (by which time I had gone flaccid again).

"Where the fuck did you get to?" I asked. "I had to pay the driver" she said (wiping her mouth with the bottom of her T-shirt) "and it's a long way from Cafemba".

Perhaps that is how Oakie's chica "saved him a bundle" in fares?

Oakie
04-27-18, 17:26
Oakie posted this in the Sosua section. I am commenting here, which seems more appropriate.
Of course, we do have members who think their shit don't stink and would only make the journey by private taxi, but I know you are not one of those, Oakie, as you you have posted amply on how ordinary Dominicans are the salt of the Earth and how we are honored to rub shoulders with them. Indeed, I imagine you would even forego the chance to buy double seats, so that you can benefit from the full experience of a sweaty crush.My chica can get me from Sosua to Constambar in a modern taxi private taxi for 700 pesos ($14 US) he'll even pick us and bring us back at the end the day. The regular taxi fare from Sosua to Constambar is at least $45 US.

Multiply that saving by two for the return trip, and THAT"s "saving a bundle". in my book! If you are lucky she can get a "cousin" who has, or can borrow a car, and he'll take you anywhere for gas money!

That's how I got to the airport yesterday.

Trouble was the trunk was so loaded with my stuff and two chica's stuff for home in PP, that he could not get the trunk open. Aye yi yi!

We had porters, Cessturs, Taxis drivers involved for an hour, trying to help and giving advice! I even went online and got a video of how to get into a locked Camry trunk. Finally a Car rental guy came and stripped some wiring and reconnected and it opened. I got my luggage. Made my fight, and the chicas were on there way home to PP.

Some 12 different Dominicanos tried to help, and spent a fair bit of time. Nobody wanted a propina.

Matter of fact while they were working on the car I put a 50 peso note into a coke machine. A minute later a young chico comes over with the 20 pesos change I'd left in the machine.

Love Sosua, love Dominicans!

DominicanPete
05-09-18, 16:19
Kviar disco and casino. Arrived from black beards resort with uber for 225 pesos around 23.45 am last night. Was little bit people inside the club in modern many diffrent colour lights on all walls sit order presidente light for 150 pesos couple of girls inside not busy yet, so I finish my beer and go downstairs to casino play little bit. Order beer after I ask how much it is they told me is for free. Later I comeback disco see some girl and come sit next to her she was speaking good english we talk for a while and I ask her how much she want for all night? She said 5000 pesos I said I can give you 3000. She said no 3500 for short time if you want I just finish my beer and go look other girls but all other girls was in groups or with local guys seems they come here just for party. So I sit alone orderer sisha for 800 pesos smoke and drink more beer. After some girls just with bikinis and bra start dance and walk to costumers sits on the lap and shake her ass and tits near and asking tips for that. One girl come to me shake her ass I touch her little bit after 30 seconds she said money money!! I put 50 pesos under her panties seems she wasnt happy with 50 pesos and walk away!! I drink more beer and go play casino again it was around 3 pm the girl who refuse before my offer for 3000 all night saw I am leaving and follow me to casino come to me and start look how I am playing. I told her again 3000 all night ok? She agree and we left together comeback hotel to the room take shower and jump to bed. I want to fuck her but she told me she is tired and want sleep. I said if you don't like go away I pay you not for sleeping!! She said give me 3000 and I am leaving I said I will fuck you now and give you 1500 and you can go. She said no 3000 we fuck and I am go. She makes me angry so I said if you don't want you will not get nothing because we didint fuck yet. She start..For newbies going to the DR this is a good post to read mostly because the actions of this guy led to the bad situation he was in.

I have made many trips to the area and I do exactly what this guy does which is stay at BB's. I enjoy the chicas during the day but I like to go out at night and will find myself at Kviar on many occasions. I never had an experience like this and you won't ether as long as you don't do what this guy did.

Your first mistake was giving up too easily in Kviar. Just about every girl that goes in there is for the taking. It doesn't matter if they are with their friends or a group of guys they are also there to work. They will always come to you. Let them come to you. You will have dozens to choose from through out the night.

Your second mistake was leaving at 3 am with a girl you already walked away from. That club is primed with talent at 3 am. There is no way she was the only fish in the sea. There is always a reason we walk away.

Your third mistake was not making her give the ID to security at BB. While I never have had to use the security at BB they are there for a reason. It is to protect you and help you in a bad situation. Use their services.

Your fourth mistake was letting this girl sit there and allowing tension to build. Why on earth you would let this girl sit there for 40 minutes in you room at 5 am without doing what you brought her there for is pure foolishness.

Let's be clear. Kviar is the Dominican's turf. It isn't for the every day gringo. You need to have some game and and be aware of what you are doing. Make good decisions. Don't be seen as an easy mark or you are going to end up having a bad time like this guy.

OldKool
05-09-18, 23:23
It was the guys 1st time in Kaviar and the place is a bit omplicated in that not all the girls are in play. Depending on what night you go the experience is different. He was used to BB action which is controlled fish in a barrrow. He took a chnce and got a bad one. I have learnd that when you get a girl who not reasonable in her negotiations walk away. When chicas settle for less then they think is their price they will not perform. He made a few rookie mistakes but nothing earth shattering. I enjoyed his report and found it of much worth.


For newbies going to the DR this is a good post to read mostly because the actions of this guy led to the bad situation he was in.

I have made many trips to the area and I do exactly what this guy does which is stay at BB's. I enjoy the chicas during the day but I like to go out at night and will find myself at Kviar on many occasions. I never had an experience like this and you won't ether as long as you don't do what this guy did.

Your first mistake was giving up too easily in Kviar. Just about every girl that goes in there is for the taking. It doesn't matter if they are with their friends or a group of guys they are also there to work. They will always come to you. Let them come to you. You will have dozens to choose from through out the night.

Your second mistake was leaving at 3 am with a girl you already walked away from. That club is primed with talent at 3 am. There is no way she was the only fish in the sea. There is always a reason we walk away.

Your third mistake was not making her give the ID to security at BB. While I never have had to use the security at BB they are there for a reason. It is to protect you and help you in a bad situation. Use their services.

Your fourth mistake was letting this girl sit there and allowing tension to build. Why on earth you would let this girl sit there for 40 minutes in you room at 5 am without doing what you brought her there for is pure foolishness.

Let's be clear. Kviar is the Dominican's turf. It isn't for the every day gringo. You need to have some game and and be aware of what you are doing. Make good decisions. Don't be seen as an easy mark or you are going to end up having a bad time like this guy.

GrownMan1
05-10-18, 10:54
300 pesos. I said ok we go outside and I pay driver when he comes after 20 minutes driver arrive I escort her outside give for driver 300 pesos and quickly walk back inside and she left. I think I am quiet lucky I get away just with 300 pesos with that crazy ***** it could be much worst. In 8 years my mongering time this is just my second so bad experience I have just one worst couple years ago at Uganda when ***** start to fighting with hotel.

Night security guy at my hotel room they was beating each other but its diffrent story already.I enjoy reading this report. You were honest of your mistakes. From the outside looking in; I see a lot of things I would have done differently. However I want to commend you on things that I agree with.

1. You didn't jump out and paid 5000 pesos. Many of us will get irritated and don't want to waste time negotiating. We end up giving the girl exactly what she wants only for her to still come up short.

2. You weren't trying to be a big spender you took your time. 50 pesos for lap dance. We throw dollars in the US.

3. You like the situation get ugly however you still handled it. When it shake started tripping a lot of us would have paid her for sleeping to avoid conflict.

I understand leaving the scene of Blackbeard. If you are in an adventurer that control area will bore you very quickly. Even when women walking around at your disposal. You've been in this game for a while so you needed a switch up. I may have did the same thing. Sex is the icing on the cake however the adventure well that's the cake.

Nordico
05-10-18, 15:03
Is there action every night or just certain days of the week?

DominicanPete
05-11-18, 15:33
Is there action every night or just certain days of the week?Action every night and the later the better.

I left some detailed reports about my experiences there in a report from last summer (June or July) in both the Blackbeards thread and Puerto Plata thread.

This isn't the place for the average Sosua traveler to visit. You need to be on top of your game because you are on the Dominicans turf there. It is gringo friendly but know your whereabouts and what you are getting into.

The diamonds in the rough here are the casino workers. There are the sisters who deal cards that work as a pair and one of the girls who does some cashiering is my favorite.

Don't just work the club but work the casino workers.

Java Man
05-13-18, 09:12
I was in Puerto Plata 10 days ago. I stayed too long at Black Beards and needed a change of scenery, so I went to Cristal Nightclub on a Tuesday night. Older post about this place on a competing site, said the ladies where eager there. This was not my case, but perhaps I got there too early at about 10 p. Strip club? Not in my book. The stage is on the bar, big enough for only one dancer. When I entered there was one chick dancing, she finished her set and was not replaced. There was a whole lot of nothing going on. About 16 ladies were present. They were more interested in their smartphones or where talking to each other. There was even one who was asleep on one of the couches.

Two dancers approached me however they were chubby. There was one that caught my eye: thin but curvy dark skinned babe. Of all the women there, she was the only one that was active: she was dancing seductively in front of the mini stage. I waved her over, and she got on my lap. She didn't take long to convince me to take her upstairs.

The upstairs rooms are small with only a twin bed and a table. Freshening up is not an option. She was an eager performer and gave GFE treatment. She had an outstanding body, with gravity defying natural tits and a bubble butt. Only negative was the CBJ. But she got mad skills in that department. Lots of eye contact and slurppy CBJ. Started with cowgirl, switched to missionary, then doggie. This babe was the best fuck of the trip!

Here's the Negatives: the 1 HR rate is $100 usd! The security guy upstairs will pester you to buy condoms and for a tip. I wasn't given the full hour.

Also Presidente Light is 250 pesos here, same price if you buy a dancer a beer.

MongerHunger
10-19-18, 07:17
Was in Puerto Plata before heading out to Sosua. Stopped by FiFi cigar store on Calle Separacion and grabbed a nice Cognac cigar to puff on. I rarely smoke cigars but FiFi's has damn good cigars to choose from. They hand roll them next door and is attached to a jewelry store. After lighting up and a shot of Mamajuana I headed to the Casa de Cambio next to the Heladeria Mariposa (Ice Cream Shop) just across from Parque Central on Calle Beller. The exchange rate was 49 pesos per $1 USD. Then went to grab a Presidente Grande at the grocery across from Parque Central.

The last time that I was in Puerto Plata I went to Loveras House where a few chicas were at doing business in a small yellow house. Now I have more detailed information of where it is at. It is located on Calle La Viara near the Port of Puerto Plata. From the Highway 5 turn towards Avenida Penetracion Portuaria heading towards port. Pass El Muelle and in the vicinity of Super Mercado Surtidora Perez. Calle La Viara will intersect. Loveras House will be at the curve in the road. Small yellow house. Not in the best neighborhood but I had no issues. If anyone ventures there please let me know if my directions helped and how your experience went. I hope that these details help for those who would like to know. If you want to know about my experience there read my previous post. By the way, the fish is good and fresh on the malecon at Long Beach. Good prices too!

Charles Pooter
10-21-18, 00:20
Thanks, Monger Hunger, for posting the location. From your previous report it did not sound too appetizing, but I will have a look as I like to know what is going on in my home city.

Mr Enternational
10-21-18, 01:00
I was in Puerto Plata 10 days ago. I stayed too long at Black Beards and needed a change of scenery, so I went to Cristal Nightclub on a Tuesday night. Older post about this place on a competing site, said the ladies where eager there. This was not my case, but perhaps I got there too early at about 10 p. Strip club? Not in my book.How many men were there besides you? A sure fire way to know that you are in a clip joint is you look around and you are the only one there. The few times that I have been in Cristal or the Santo Domingo places that charge $100, I have been the only one there. What sense would it make for chicks to be dancing on a stage and the place is empty? They are just waiting for the foreign mice to come in so they can strike and suck that $100 out of them.

MongerHunger
10-21-18, 22:16
Thanks, Monger Hunger, for posting the location. From your previous report it did not sound too appetizing, but I will have a look as I like to know what is going on in my home city.No problem. I hope you get a chance to check it out and let us know your take.

OzzyHead
11-12-18, 22:24
Is there enough actual tourist stuff to do in the area for a week to make a vacation (and come home with a bunch of local sightseeing pictures) aside from mongering? I'm thinking about staying at BB's for the hassle free fish in the barrel entertainment in the mornings and evenings, but would like plan a legit trip around it.

Questner
11-13-18, 04:26
Is there enough actual tourist stuff to do in the area for a week to make a vacation (and come home with a bunch of local sightseeing pictures) aside from mongering? I'm thinking about staying at BB's for the hassle free fish in the barrel entertainment in the mornings and evenings, but would like plan a legit trip around it.Sure. https://www.viator.com/Puerto-Plata/d795-ttd.

Slick458
11-15-18, 22:26
Does anyone have any experience with club chica? I'm going to stay at Sunscape resorts over Christmas and the people I was going with bailed on me. I also could go to Blackbeards but not sure how it is over Christmas. Not sure if its worth it because it would only be for a night or two. I can't get out of my all inclusive as its already paid for. Thanks for any help guys.

Yanqui69
11-16-18, 16:44
Is there enough actual tourist stuff to do in the area for a week to make a vacation (and come home with a bunch of local sightseeing pictures) aside from mongering? I'm thinking about staying at BB's for the hassle free fish in the barrel entertainment in the mornings and evenings, but would like plan a legit trip around it.Noticed that you were sent a URL with info on stuff in the area. To augment that, talk to the management at BB about activities. They can hook you up with activities based elsewhere, but can pick you up.

Separately, in Puerto Plata, there is a reconstructed Spanish fortress with some touristy stuff (very small, very simple). The Puerto Plata 'malecon' or oceanside promenade, offers oceanfront photos. (Neither of these is really impressive, but only cost you cabfare). There is also a cable car in the area with views at the top.

You can get info from the BB office, and I would further suggest you pick a chica you like to spend time with out of bed to act as a guide for you during your excursion. She can show you the ropes, and keep you out of trouble.

Charles Pooter
11-16-18, 22:13
I would further suggest you pick a chica you like to spend time with out of bed to act as a guide for you during your excursion. She can show you the ropes, and keep you out of trouble.As usual, I agree with most of what you write, but there are downsides to inviting a chica to show you around:

1) It will increase your costs.

2) It will stop your chances of meeting other chicas.

3) She will take you where she wants to go, not where you may want to go, and she may well have contacts in town (taxis, restaurants, bars, etc) from whom she will take a cut of what you spend.

In my first week at Blackbeards (and first in the Americans and in any tropical country) I made two outings with BB chicas. Both I would have been better off doing myself. One had lost her true love and kept bursting into tears. (She did introduce me to bachata though, for which I remain grateful).The other was frightened as hell in Sosua (or pretended to be) and would not go on the beach (too dangerous) or sit in the Merengue Bar (too dangerous). She wanted to get away before it got dark (and dangerous), which I soon afterwards learned is when it starts to get interesting.

I really think a single guy who is healthy and not mentally retarded is not going to get into any trouble in Puerto Plata city. We are very civilized here. I am talking about daylight hours, which is when OzzyHead may feel the urge to get off campus. By staying at Blackbeards he is paying a slight (and very fair and understandable) premium for sex, food, drinks and transport for the convenience of having it all on a plate. I see no point in his going out at night, but he may get bored in the middle part of the day and fancy a visit to God's own city. He could meet me on the Malecon midday for a drink or brunch.

Charles Pooter
11-16-18, 22:29
Does anyone have any experience with club chica? I'm going to stay at Sunscape resorts over Christmas and the people I was going with bailed on me. I also could go to Blackbeards but not sure how it is over Christmas. Not sure if its worth it because it would only be for a night or two. I can't get out of my all inclusive as its already paid for. Thanks for any help guys.Is it the Sunscape Resort in Playa Dorada? If you booked there with friends it was obviously not for a mongering holiday. Are you suggesting you now want to turn your trip into a mongering holiday? How many days are you there?

Do you want to do other touristy things or do you just want to fuck? If the latter, you realize you cannot take girls back to your hotel (which is why mongers do not stay in all-inclusive hotels). So you will be paying a premium for transport and for short-time places to do the deed.

Your easiest option if you do not speak Spanish and are not street-wise is to walk across to Oasis (15 minutes slow safe walk) on the opposite side of the main road. They are expensive and obnoxious tossers and I would not normally recommend them but it could be your best option if you are not adventurous.

Christmas is the worst time for mongering, but if here for only a few days you can still find enough action.

I live in Puerto Plata. Send me a private message here if I can be of help.

I have never heard of Club Chica but most of these operations are just scams, charging you double for what you could do yourself.

Slick458
11-17-18, 02:05
Is it the Sunscape Resort in Playa Dorada? If you booked there with friends it was obviously not for a mongering holiday. Are you suggesting you now want to turn your trip into a mongering holiday? How many days are you there?

Do you want to do other touristy things or do you just want to fuck? If the latter, you realize you cannot take girls back to your hotel (which is why mongers do not stay in all-inclusive hotels). So you will be paying a premium for transport and for short-time places to do the deed.

Your easiest option if you do not speak Spanish and are not street-wise is to walk across to Oasis (15 minutes slow safe walk) on the opposite side of the main road. They are expensive and obnoxious tossers and I would not normally recommend them but it could be your best option if you are not adventurous.

Christmas is the worst time for mongering, but if here for only a few days you can still find enough action.

I live in Puerto Plata. Send me a private message here if I can be of help.

I have never heard of Club Chica but most of these operations are just scams, charging you double for what you could do yourself.Yes it is that sunscape. I was originally going down with friends for Christmas but they bailed on me and the 3rd party site I booked through won't refund me for the stay or I would just go to Blackbeards. I'm going to be there 7 days. I din't realise Oasis was so close but I haven't heard good things about it. Thanks for the help.

OzzyHead
11-17-18, 04:37
I genuinely appreciate the insight and advice.

Yanqui69
11-18-18, 17:27
As usual, I agree with most of what you write, but there are downsides to inviting a chica to show you around:

1) It will increase your costs.

2) It will stop your chances of meeting other chicas.

3) She will take you where she wants to go, not where you may want to go, and she may well have contacts in town (taxis, restaurants, bars, etc) from whom she will take a cut of what you spend.

In my first week at Blackbeards (and first in the Americans and in any tropical country) I made two outings with BB chicas. Both I would have been better off doing myself. One had lost her true love and kept bursting into tears. (She did introduce me to bachata though, for which I remain grateful).The other was frightened as hell in Sosua (or pretended to be) and would not go on the beach (too dangerous) or sit in the Merengue Bar (too dangerous). She wanted to get away before it got dark (and dangerous), which I soon afterwards learned is when it starts to get interesting.

I really think a single guy who is healthy and not mentally retarded is not going to get into any trouble in Puerto Plata city. We are very civilized here. I am talking about daylight hours, which is when OzzyHead may feel the urge to get off campus. By staying at Blackbeards he is paying a slight (and very fair and understandable) premium for sex, food, drinks and transport for the convenience of having it all on a plate. I see no point in his going out at night, but he may get bored in the middle part of the day and fancy a visit to God's own city. He could meet me on the Malecon midday for a drink or brunch.Good points, Sir Charles. There are benefits and drawbacks. For my part, I'd say that one tells the chica where he wants to go, not allow himself to be led. Its possible she might have arrangements with taxis, etc, but that is less likely, as the "tourist guide" scenario is such an infrequent one. On the plus side, she may recognize the scams and potential dangers not evident to the gringo eye.

My belief is also based on a personal experience in which I was driving a rental car with a chica to Las Terrenas. An idiot in a motoconcho caused an accident with my car, and the chica was sharp enough to gather all those involved into my car, and had me drive to a private clinic, where all injuries were treated competently, and economically. (As it was a clinic, not a hospital, the police were not involved). I had been terrified of being held in jail, awaiting a hearing, which would have been a disaster on many counts. Even the lesser option, large bribes to the cops was spared me. She "saved my bacon" and we were back on the road in a few hours. Alone, I would have been dead meat.

But the points you make are valid. As in everything, there are trade offs.

Yanqui69
11-18-18, 17:37
Yes it is that sunscape. I was originally going down with friends for Christmas but they bailed on me and the 3rd party site I booked through won't refund me for the stay or I would just go to Blackbeards. I'm going to be there 7 days. I din't realise Oasis was so close but I haven't heard good things about it. Thanks for the help.My two cents. Charles is right about 'Oasis' formerly Field of Dreams. Great location, but somehow the succession of owners manage to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. " Great location, but they manage to screw it up with "Dominican business principles. " Indifferent service, over priced, etc.

Like Crystals (still?) in Puerto Plata, they cater to the all inclusive guests sneaking away for a "quickie," so repeat business is not a concern.

In your case, despite the drawbacks, it is the most convenient option.

Black Beard's would be a nice option to spend the day, but you have the added cost of cab fare to Costambar.

OzzyHead
11-19-18, 06:00
I never want to be in a situation where the chica is the logical voice of reason.

I'm currently feeling out the best time with my work schedule and family obligations to take a mental health vacation to the DR. Based on my extensive research. Blackbeard's is my choice for are&are. And Arrrrr! (Couldn't resist the doucshy pun). I want reliability, quality, convenience and "traditional".

Tourist bullshit to fulfill my own enjoyment as well as a vacation cover with photographic proof for my vacation.


Good points, Sir Charles. There are benefits and drawbacks. For my part, I'd say that one tells the chica where he wants to go, not allow himself to be led. Its possible she might have arrangements with taxis, etc, but that is less likely, as the "tourist guide" scenario is such an infrequent one. On the plus side, she may recognize the scams and potential dangers not evident to the gringo eye.

My belief is also based on a personal experience in which I was driving a rental car with a chica to Las Terrenas. An idiot in a motoconcho caused an accident with my car, and the chica was sharp enough to gather all those involved into my car, and had me drive to a private clinic, where all injuries were treated competently, and economically. (As it was a clinic, not a hospital, the police were not involved). I had been terrified of being held in jail, awaiting a hearing, which would have been a disaster on many counts. Even the lesser option, large bribes to the cops was spared me. She "saved my bacon" and we were back on the road in a few hours. Alone, I would have been dead meat.

But the points you make are valid. As in everything, there are trade offs.

Kiyakubuke
01-12-19, 06:56
I never want to be in a situation where the chica is the logical voice of reason.

I'm currently feeling out the best time with my work schedule and family obligations to take a mental health vacation to the DR. Based on my extensive research. Blackbeard's is my choice for are&are. And Arrrrr! (Couldn't resist the doucshy pun). I want reliability, quality, convenience and "traditional".

Tourist bullshit to fulfill my own enjoyment as well as a vacation cover with photographic proof for my vacation.I have been looking into Blackbeard's as well. Researching on the boards seems to indicate it is a preferred choice over the $1000+ per night places. Their website seem to be deliberately devoid of much mention of the girls. From what few post (here and other places) I have found, it seems like they are "on the resort" but not really provided by the resort like the expensive places. Anyone have any idea of the ballpark rates?

Yanqui69
01-12-19, 16:04
I have been looking into Blackbeard's as well. Researching on the boards seems to indicate it is a preferred choice over the $1000+ per night places. Their website seem to be deliberately devoid of much mention of the girls. From what few post (here and other places) I have found, it seems like they are "on the resort" but not really provided by the resort like the expensive places. Anyone have any idea of the ballpark rates?Blackbeard's has managed to survive and thrive by remaining inconspicuous. Their newsletter posts pics of the girls in activities like the Bikini Contest, etc. Anything more provides potential evidence for crusading politicians.

The girls don't work for the hotel, they are allowed to ply their trade on-site. Girls apply to work there, get interviewed and screened (looks, background, etc). Its considered a VERY good deal for the girls, as they have a safe environment to work in, versus the streets. Thieves, druggies, scam artists, drama queens get barred from the hotel. They also get medical exams for STDs monthly. There is a "day shift" and "evening shift. " For assistance with special requests, etc, there is a female "mama san" on site to help.

I believe the current rates are Short Time (ST) is 2500 pesos. Overnight is 3500 DOP. Researching the thread will provide the answers.

Yanqui69
01-12-19, 16:13
I never want to be in a situation where the chica is the logical voice of reason.

I'm currently feeling out the best time with my work schedule and family obligations to take a mental health vacation to the DR. Based on my extensive research. Blackbeard's is my choice for are&are. And Arrrrr! (Couldn't resist the doucshy pun). I want reliability, quality, convenience and "traditional".

Tourist bullshit to fulfill my own enjoyment as well as a vacation cover with photographic proof for my vacation.As it worked out, the chica was the savvy one, because we were in HER environment. As a gringo, I would have waited for police to arrive at the accident site to fill out a report. That would have been disaster for me. She knew the deal and had me go to a clinic versus a hospital. Who would have known to do that? I consider myself lucky.

For tourist type cover, there is a reconstructed Spanish fort in Puerto Plata, at the west end of the Malecon. A few objects from the period are on display. There is also a cable-car available in Puerto Plata for mountain top views. (Get directions at the hotel). BB will also coordinate excursions off site for you. Check at the hotel). A short walk to the Costambar beach is worth it. Nice place to lounge with a beer. Usually very few on the beach. Possible photo op, as well.

Carolinaman
01-12-19, 22:11
I have been to Blackbeards a couple of times. Enjoyed my stays there but have moved on to other locations overseas. There is an all inclusive place on the other coast where you would fly into Santo Domingo. Not horribly expensive. You can Google SPAV. Which stands for "satisfaction plus adult vacations". Frank who runs it and his wife Mercedes are wonderful people. It is nothing fancy. I met a number of guests who are multiple repeat visitors. Always a good sign. They have their female staff who live on site and the base price includes a companion for the day. Not everyones cup of tea but still a nice place. I would rank it above Blackbeards in no uncertain terms. They have a portal where you can sign up as a member and see pictures. I would stay with them even if there were no women because they take care of their customers.

Yanqui69
01-13-19, 17:44
I have been to Blackbeards a couple of times. Enjoyed my stays there but have moved on to other locations overseas. There is an all inclusive place on the other coast where you would fly into Santo Domingo. Not horribly expensive. You can Google SPAV. Which stands for "satisfaction plus adult vacations". Frank who runs it and his wife Mercedes are wonderful people. It is nothing fancy. I met a number of guests who are multiple repeat visitors. Always a good sign. They have their female staff who live on site and the base price includes a companion for the day. Not everyones cup of tea but still a nice place. I would rank it above Blackbeards in no uncertain terms. They have a portal where you can sign up as a member and see pictures. I would stay with them even if there were no women because they take care of their customers.I visited the site and the basic all-inclusive package was $450 per day, with a 24 HR "companion" each day. I have no life, so I decided to do some math to fill the void.

In comparison, at Blackbeards, the best single room was $75 a night. I rarely ate lunch, but here I allowed $60 a day for 3 daily meals. I usually stay with beer at the bar, as drinking liquor puts me out of action too soon. Allowing for overkill, I estimated 20 beers (overkill) at about $4 each ($80) My price for a beer may be a little off, but close. Total for everything was $205. Subtracted from $450, that leaves $245. At current rates, that would leave cash for 4-5 chicas a day. (Lord, those days are gone).

The idea of spending the day with one girl is sometimes appealing, depending on the girl, chemistry, etc. But I think that for many, however, the freedom to stick with one girl or seek variety is more popular. To make $450 per day cost effective, it seems to me one would have to consume huge amounts of food, drink and sex. Not enough hours in the day.

A look at the SPAV website and the BB newsletter gives a good comparison of the chicas available at each.

It may be an alternative worth checking out for some. I wish them luck and success.

Carolinaman
01-13-19, 23:02
All your points are well taken and considered. It is an alternative to those 1000 USD a day places.

These girls are dominicans and not imported.

Another point to consider is these girls are not getting banged 6-20 times a day x 7 days a week by by every Juan, Tom and Jose.

You can also get another chica to join you for either 60-80 dollars for half a day and you can change your 24 hour companion out daily.

Once again not everyones cup of tea.

I have moved onto other venues where I have been introduced to semi-pros by kind and considerate members of this board so I am no longer one of their customers. Also not going to the DR but other countries.

They also will pick you up and take you back to the airport for no additional charge.

You will have a daily exposure to all the women and you can get to know their personalities.


I visited the site and the basic all-inclusive package was $450 per day, with a 24 HR "companion" each day. I have no life, so I decided to do some math to fill the void.

In comparison, at Blackbeards, the best single room was $75 a night. I rarely ate lunch, but here I allowed $60 a day for 3 daily meals. I usually stay with beer at the bar, as drinking liquor puts me out of action too soon. Allowing for overkill, I estimated 20 beers (overkill) at about $4 each ($80) My price for a beer may be a little off, but close. Total for everything was $205. Subtracted from $450, that leaves $245. At current rates, that would leave cash for 4-5 chicas a day. (Lord, those days are gone).

The idea of spending the day with one girl is sometimes appealing, depending on the girl, chemistry, etc. But I think that for many, however, the freedom to stick with one girl or seek variety is more popular. To make $450 per day cost effective, it seems to me one would have to consume huge amounts of food, drink and sex. Not enough hours in the day.

A look at the SPAV website and the BB newsletter gives a good comparison of the chicas available at each.

It may be an alternative worth checking out for some. I wish them luck and success.

Mr Enternational
01-17-19, 04:28
I'm chillin at Oasis late night sippin on some Cuba libres. They keep playing that sad Wiz Khalifa song. I said damn how many times are y'all going to play this? A chick told me it was for a reason. The chef Nathaniel was in a bad motorcycle accident around 7. Then the bartender chick showed me the gruesome pics from the hospital. One was his head split open. I said yet you guys are still going to ride without helmets on bikes and seatbelts in cars. There were 5 chicks when I got here 30 minutes ago. Now I only see 2. I am the only customer. They close at 1.

Dirk8
02-17-19, 15:01
Hi guys,

Great info on here. I've been RTFF for a while, and could use some up to date info. I'll be at an AI soon, and looking for options nearby for getting out for a couple hours. Is BB only for overnighting? Cristal's a decent option? Are there massage places in town? Thanks!

Yanqui69
02-17-19, 16:38
Hi guys,

Great info on here. I've been RTFF for a while, and could use some up to date info. I'll be at an AI soon, and looking for options nearby for getting out for a couple hours. Is BB only for overnighting? Cristal's a decent option? Are there massage places in town? Thanks!BB will rent you a room for a few hours if you wish. Its also a 15-20 minute cab ride from Playa Dorada. (Barba Negra, Costambar to the cab will get you there).

Cristal's is considered to be overpriced for what you get. Been overcharging AI guest "getting away" from their spouses for years.

Right across the road from Playa Dorada is the former 'Field of Dreams' now Oasis. Haven't been there recently, but selection of girls was okay, and room charge acceptable. Any cabbie will know where to go.

Wait for more detail from those currently residing there. (Charles Pooter, Manizales 911.

Bone Yard
02-17-19, 16:42
Hi guys,

Great info on here. I've been RTFF for a while, and could use some up to date info. I'll be at an AI soon, and looking for options nearby for getting out for a couple hours. Is BB only for overnighting? Cristal's a decent option? Are there massage places in town? Thanks!If you're staying at one of the playa dorada AI's your best bet is to walk across the street to Oasis whose entrance is across from the 'back' entrance to Playa Dorada, or a short cab ride. At BB's you can get a short time room if they are not full.

Charles Pooter
02-17-19, 16:45
I'll be at an AI soon, and looking for options nearby for getting out for a couple hours. Is BB only for overnighting? Cristal's a decent option? Are there massage places in town? Thanks!Hi Dirk8, and welcome to the board. I assume that you already realize that staying in an AI is the worst way to monger but that you are visiting with family or significant other so have no choice?

Where are you staying and for how many nights?

If you are staying in Playa Dorada and can only get out for a couple of hours (as you state), there is only one realistic option for you. That is Oasis Adult Resort (formerly known as Field of Dreams). See separate section below entitled Field of Dreams (FOD) Anybody?.

The main downside to this place are the prices charged, but in your situation you do not have time to go anywhere else and, even if you did, your outlay on taxis would consume any savings made.

Cristal is as expensive as Oasis but at least at Oasis you have decent rooms to fuck in, not squalid broom closets like in Cristal. Plus you can walk across to Oasis from Playa Dorada in complete safety in 15 to 25 minutes (depending on which hotel your are leaving from) so no taxi needed.

Most of the chicas at Oasis live onsite so there are at least some girls available 24/7. Peak times are from 6 pm to 9 pm when there may be a choice of 12 to 15 girls. Whatever your taste there will be at least one or two you will fancy. (No haitianas, though, so they get none of my pesos).

If you are staying in Costa Dorada, the same applies, although in this case you will need a taxi (300 pesos) or motoconcho (100 pesos) to Oasis as too far to walk it.

Blackbeards is similar to Oasis but lower prices. However, by the time you have paid for a taxi there and back it will cost you more and cut a third off your time for fucking as well. Also it could be that you arrive to find all rooms occupied, so nowhere to fuck. No chance of that at Oasis. Went there a few weeks ago and they did not have a single resident guest.

If you are not staying in either of the above resorts it gets more complicated. Why cannot you guys post more info? We are not mind-readers here.

I live in Puerto Plata. If you need more info send me a PM and I will try to help.

Charles Pooter
02-19-19, 00:25
If you are not staying in either of the above resorts it gets more complicated. Why cannot you guys post more info? We are not mind-readers here.

A good example.

Dirk8 has since PM'd me that he will be staying in some new-fangled AI of which I had never heard, many miles from Puerto Plata. Had he been more specific in his OP I would not have wasted my time and everyone else's writing a lot of irrelevant garbage.

Newbies, if you are asking questions, please be as specific as possible to help us help you.

Dirk8
02-20-19, 00:42
A good example.

Dirk8 has since PM'd me that he will be staying in some new-fangled AI of which I had never heard, many miles from Puerto Plata. Had he been more specific in his OP I would not have wasted my time and everyone else's writing a lot of irrelevant garbage.

Newbies, if you are asking questions, please be as specific as possible to help us help you.Thanks Charles for all the PM detail. Great info! My AI is near Maimon. Anyone here have any intel about that area specifically?

Yanqui69
02-20-19, 15:56
Thanks Charles for all the PM detail. Great info! My AI is near Maimon. Anyone here have any intel about that area specifically?Wow. Maimon? That's on the opposite side of Puerto Plata, miles to the west in the general vicinity of Cofresi, etc. I've eaten some very good grilled fish in Maimon, and stayed at a hotel in Cofresi, but have seen little in the way of "professional" chicas there. Some cabanas, etc, once you found one, but I know of nowhere to pick up the girl there. The closest venue is Blackbeard's in Costambar. Not sure what your Spanish is, but it would help, when off the beaten path.

My first inclination is to recommend going to Blackbeard's to spend the day, try to line up a temporary room for your use, and returning to your AI for the night. Don't know what amenities the AI may have, but I doubt they compare to BB. You may be able to talk one of the girls into leaving with you after you coordinate with the hotel, but no idea what your AI's policies are about guests. Not sure how much you researched this beforehand.

I will venture a guess that this is the last time you stay in Maimon.

Personally, if it was possible, I'd cancel Maimon and opt either for BB, or an AI in Playa Dorada, which at least puts you across the road from FOD / Oasis.

Good luck.

Mr Enternational
02-20-19, 16:34
My AI is near Maimon. Anyone here have any intel about that area specifically?What is that, Lifestyles? Nothing else out that way besides fish (like Yanqui said), the cruise ship port, and cabanas.

Dirk8
02-20-19, 21:40
What is that, Lifestyles? Nothing else out that way besides fish (like Yanqui said), the cruise ship port, and cabanas.I'm at the Senator AI there with family, so unfortunately this isn't a mongering-specific vacation. I'll have a few hours on random afternoons to break free. I like the BB idea, which Charles also outlined in PM, and I totally get how it's custom made for this. I was just also curious if I'the be able to manufacture anything in Maimon as it's even closer to the AI.

Charles Pooter
02-20-19, 23:47
I will venture a guess that this is the last time you stay in Maimon..LOL.

But I think you missed this in his OP: "looking for options nearby for getting out for a couple hours".

Yanqui69
02-21-19, 16:08
I'm at the Senator AI there with family, so unfortunately this isn't a mongering-specific vacation. I'll have a few hours on random afternoons to break free. I like the BB idea, which Charles also outlined in PM, and I totally get how it's custom made for this. I was just also curious if I'the be able to manufacture anything in Maimon as it's even closer to the AI.Understanding the situation (finally) for a couple of hours away, BB is your best bet. Yes, short term rooms can be had (if available). I will guess that weekends are more likely to be full than earlier in the week.

No word on your experience, Spanish ability, etc, but I am guessing both are nil. There are cabanas (love motels) out toward Maimon, but they don't provide the girls (BYOG). But you are going to be using cabs, not driving yourself. With some Spanish, a cabbie might be able to hook you up with a girl, but don't know of a blind date appeals to you.

Bottom line, BB sounds like your best bet.

SubCmdr
03-06-19, 00:30
The National Police has announced that they have arrested the wife of a Dutchman who was found murdered last week in Puerto Plata along with two other men, who were in LOS Alcarrizos. Two more are still being sought for the crime, Rafael Guzmán (Jordan) and Argenis Rojas (Chancletica). Those arrested are 22-year-old Jennifer Joaquíand de Van Tinteren, spouse of the deceased, Marcos Gómez Cruz (Colita), 21, and Juan Alejandro Tavárez (El Jevo), aged 26.

According to the Police the woman told them that her husband, Roy Van Tinteren, aged 55, was shot several times when he was parking his vehicle in the garage of their home on 26 February 2019.

According to the police, Marcos Gómez Cruz (Colita) said that he had been having a romantic relationship with Jennifer for two months and that during a meeting at a hotel she asked him to kill her husband.

According to the Police he admitted that he agreed to RD $200,000 plus renting a car and in the morning of 26 February at 1 am he, along with the three other suspects shot and killed the Dutchman in his car, allowing Jennifer to escape. They then fled the scene.

https://listindiario.com/la-republic...-por-la-muerte

Parkinsons
03-07-19, 15:32
Link in the post below is broken.

Try this video news report instead.

https://youtu.be/nXS-I1tP7Cw

22 year-old wife is pretty and looks innocent enough. But damn! They had a small child too.

Charles Pooter
03-07-19, 15:45
22 year-old wife is pretty and looks innocent enough. But damn! They had a small child too.Her child, not his. She was working in Cristal, which is where he first found her. There was a whole lot more background to this, but I have to live here so I am not posting details.

Manizales911
03-07-19, 16:24
Her child, not his. She was working in Cristal, which is where he first found her. There was a whole lot more background to this, but I have to live here so I am not posting details.Rumor has it that her previous husband / boyfriend was shot and killed also, I hope she rots in jail but but at the end of the day this is the DR and she might be able to suck and fuck her way out, I hope not.

Mr Enternational
03-07-19, 16:45
Rumor has it that her previous husband / boyfriend was shot and killed also, I hope she rots in jail but but at the end of the day this is the DR and she might be able to suck and fuck her way out, I hope not.Stop spreading fake news you guys. According to some posters these are tall tales and things like this never happen in DR. Gringos live happily ever after with their Dominican hooker wives that are never out to cheat them, and most certainly would not have them killed.

Parkinsons
03-07-19, 17:29
Her child, not his. She was working in Cristal, which is where he first found her. There was a whole lot more background to this, but I have to live here so I am not posting details.Understood.

Confiable
03-07-19, 22:13
My condolences to him and the child he was helping to raise.


Her child, not his. She was working in Cristal, which is where he first found her. There was a whole lot more background to this, but I have to live here so I am not posting details.

Mr Enternational
03-10-19, 09:10
One of my chicks sent me a facebook thread about the situation.

Señores eran mis amigos; tenía un hijo de otro y cuando el la conoció ella bailaba en cristal y tenía un niño de 3 meses disque que el papa del niño se murió. La saco de ahí le compro una infiniti... Le declaró el niño como de el diciembre pasado... pero estaban casados por bienes separados y el le dijo que se quería divorciar porque había descubierto su doble vida.. Ahh y el dijo que se le habían perdido 200 mil de la cuenta.. osea que lo mato con lo de el.

SubCmdr
03-10-19, 10:15
Rumor has it that her previous husband / boyfriend was shot and killed also, I hope she rots in jail but but at the end of the day this is the DR and she might be able to suck and fuck her way out, I hope not.I don't doubt that brother. She's not that hot. Yet, she was able to get someone to hit him with the tool and flush his whole radiator. That some other world pussy right there. Dangerous!

Confiable
03-10-19, 18:20
I don't doubt that brother. She's not that hot. Yet, she was able to get someone to hit him with the tool and flush his whole radiator. That some other world pussy right there. Dangerous!And now their personal sex video is on the internet. Why would someone do that?

Pauly69
04-12-19, 17:31
I've never been to the Dominican republic and to anything like this Dr Nights. So I am curious. Anybody out there that can help me choose the best adults only all inclusive resort? Also do you suggest this site http://drnightsexvacations.xyz to signup for DR Nights? Any suggestions are welcomed. Thanks!


Yes, it is minimum two girls at Dr Nights. I decided to chose one girl for the first three nights. But thats just me. I was there for a week.

I will wait until next month and sign up for a 3 month membership so I can keep an eye out for which girls I would like to see and keep in touch since I am planning my next trip in April 2013. I already signed up for the affiliate program and started referring people to come down and odds are there will be a few of us and we will probably do the villa thing.

Here is my affiliate link: www.drnights.com/1743.html

Just click on the link, book your vacation and you are good to go!

Charles Pooter
04-12-19, 22:27
Anybody out there that can help me choose the best adults only all inclusive resort? It may or may not be "the best" (if money is no object), but best value for money is Blackbeards (Barba Negra), and a very safe choice for a first visit to the DR. Your following trip, if you have a bit of Spanish and some street-smarts, you may prefer to freelance in Sosua or elsewhere, but Blackbeards is a reasonably-priced and safe introduction to the DR.

I stayed there on my first trip to the DR (also my first trip to the Americas and first to a tropical country) and it got me hooked enough to immigrate here on retirement thirteen years ago. I have never stayed there since but often visit to meet friends, and standards have not dropped there.

How long will you be in the DR, Pauly? If more than a week you might want to stay your last 2/3 days in Sosua to get a different perspective, although that first trip I stayed at Blackbeards for two weeks and loved every minute of it.

Two slight reservations. I was there a couple of weeks ago for their bikini contest and noticed most of the girls were on the ample side of average. If you only like skinny girls (same as me) you might want to think twice. Also there are no haitianas there, but they are a minority preference.

Rebel Monger
04-12-19, 22:43
I've never been to the Dominican republic and to anything like this Dr Nights. So I am curious. Anybody out there that can help me choose the best adults only all inclusive resort? Also do you suggest this site http://drnightsexvacations.xyz to signup for DR Nights? Any suggestions are welcomed. Thanks!If you are not promoting that expensive (for suckers) place, you'll do beter buying a subscription here and reading the forum. For what you pay for one night (the cheapest package) in that stupid place you can pay for four nights (that includes everything, even the woman) in Sosua and have a lot more fun, and maybe some money left! Don't be putt off by not speaking Spanish, you'll do just find. This forum is not a good place for those scammers to try to "fish" non-informed mongers!

Pauly69
04-12-19, 23:19
Hi Charles,

Unfortunately, I don't speak a word of Spanish. Anyway, I am planning to travel this July and stay at least 3 weeks. I don't care about the money, but if Blackbeards is a good and safe choice for a visit to the DR then I will go for it And yes I like skinny girls.


It may or may not be "the best" (if money is no object), but best value for money is Blackbeards (Barba Negra), and a very safe choice for a first visit to the DR. Your following trip, if you have a bit of Spanish and some street-smarts, you may prefer to freelance in Sosua or elsewhere, but Blackbeards is a reasonably-priced and safe introduction to the DR.

I stayed there on my first trip to the DR (also my first trip to the Americas and first to a tropical country) and it got me hooked enough to immigrate here on retirement thirteen years ago. I have never stayed there since but often visit to meet friends, and standards have not dropped there.

How long will you be in the DR, Pauly? If more than a week you might want to stay your last 2/3 days in Sosua to get a different perspective, although that first trip I stayed at Blackbeards for two weeks and loved every minute of it..

Yanqui69
04-13-19, 16:29
Hi Charles,

Unfortunately, I don't speak a word of Spanish. Anyway, I am planning to travel this July and stay at least 3 weeks. I don't care about the money, but if Blackbeards is a good and safe choice for a visit to the DR then I will go for it And yes I like skinny girls.I agree with Sir Charles. For a first timer, BB (Blackbeard's) is the best choice. Decent atmosphere, nice choice of girls. And above all for a newbie, quality control. No druggies, no thieves, no scam artists, etc. Girls get monthly medical checks. Try learning some Spanish before and during your trip with the girls. An on site "mama san" can help you in finding what you are looking for. The on-site restaurant has good food, and you are in a quiet area, where you can walk to the local restaurants, etc. Read the Blackbeard's thread for more details.

If you plan on spending 3 weeks (envy) consider spending time in Sosua. All street and bar action. No quality control, so read the Sosua thread for more information there. Enjoy.

Charles Pooter
04-13-19, 21:51
Unfortunately, I don't speak a word of Spanish. Anyway, I am planning to travel this July and stay at least 3 weeks. I don't care about the money, but if Blackbeards is a good and safe choice for a visit to the DR then I will go for it And yes I like skinny girls.July is the quiet time for tourism. And it can get really hot so make sure you drink plenty of water, not too much alcohol, and do not get sun-burn.

Three weeks is good. If you are a young and very restless person you may get bored with Blackbeards after 10/14 days. If so, consider spending your last week (or some of it) in Sosua.

If you like skinny girls you may not find enough at Blackbeards to last you three weeks. I think they have about forty girls on their roster, though not more than about 15 available on each of the two shifts. Of that forty, at least thirty carry too much weight for me personally, but Blackbeards know what most of their customers want. Sounds as if you are not on a tight budget so will probably be fucking two or three girls a day and one for all-night as long as your sperm lasts. (On my two-week trip I had to slow down to one a day towards the end because of my budget). So you may wish to stay a few days in Sosua to find fresh meat (especially if you fancy dark meat). If so, I would strongly recommend you make an afternoon plus evening outing there (returning to Blackbeards for the night) to see if you like the feel of the place before committing.

You will not want to be fucking all day as well as all night, but there are plenty of excursions you can do from Blackbeards for a change of scenery. To be frank, they are not very exciting, but if your first trip to the DR, everything will be interesting for you. Make sure you visit the city of Puerto Plata (about three miles away) and have lunch with me on the Malecon (sea-front boulevard) one day.

Make friends with other guests so you can share taxis for outings.

Do not fuck with drugs, even weed. While no-one here cares if some stupid gringo fries his brains, it can make you vulnerable to blackmail. Same applies to under-age girls. (Of course these warnings are not relevant inside Blackbeards as the girls and other locals are screened).

Try and learn just a bit of Spanish. Every little helps. Just courtesy words and greetings and numbers. Plenty of free tutorials online.

Bring plenty of your preferred condoms and lube. Maybe things have improved (other posters please comment) but on my first trips I found first-world condoms expensive and third-world brands uncomfortable or unreliable. On the other hand, ED drugs are very cheap here and there are few complaints about quality.

Make a couple of laminated color copies of your passport. You may need to show ID when out and about but you do not want to be carrying your original.

Last advice. Don't fall in love. Sounds laughable, but many guys do on their first trip here.

OldKool
04-14-19, 00:27
I love the DR especially the north coast but as horny as I am 3 days is all I could stand at BB. 15 to 20 girls and only 3 or 4 that are true winners and those girls are almost always occupied. You have to wait your turn. I spent 2 days there and was bored to tears. Go to Sosua and hang out with like minded guys and see 200 willing girls of all shapes and sizes. Speaking no spanish will make travel in the DR tougher but if you hook up a chica you really like you will have a tour guide. No spanish iss needed in Sosua it is point and pay.


Hi Charles,

Unfortunately, I don't speak a word of Spanish. Anyway, I am planning to travel this July and stay at least 3 weeks. I don't care about the money, but if Blackbeards is a good and safe choice for a visit to the DR then I will go for it And yes I like skinny girls.

Yanqui69
04-14-19, 16:20
I love the DR especially the north coast but as horny as I am 3 days is all I could stand at BB. 15 to 20 girls and only 3 or 4 that are true winners and those girls are almost always occupied. You have to wait your turn. I spent 2 days there and was bored to tears. Go to Sosua and hang out with like minded guys and see 200 willing girls of all shapes and sizes. Speaking no spanish will make travel in the DR tougher but if you hook up a chica you really like you will have a tour guide. No spanish iss needed in Sosua it is point and pay.Amigo, I respectfully disagree. To say that there are only 2 or 4 winners among the chicas is wildly exaggerated. One only has to look at their newsletter to see that they have a good percentage of really attractive women.

I won't bother to post pics, but people who want to see the proof only have to access their newsletter online, or contact management to get a stack of photos by email.

Yanqui69
04-14-19, 16:26
July is the quiet time for tourism. And it can get really hot so make sure you drink plenty of water, not too much alcohol, and do not get sun-burn.
Sir Charles gave you some good advice. My last two cents is: if in the area in summer, try to bring a collapsible umbrella with you. Summer is the season of sudden, torrential tropical rainstorms. When returning, avoid possible problems, and put it in your checked bags. POP airport security sometimes get more stupid than usual, and may take the umbrella.

Pauly69
04-16-19, 15:15
Hi Charles,

Thanks so much for the info. I will let you know once in the DR so we can meet and have lunch together.


I agree with Sir Charles. For a first timer, BB (Blackbeard's) is the best choice. Decent atmosphere, nice choice of girls. And above all for a newbie, quality control. No druggies, no thieves, no scam artists, etc. Girls get monthly medical checks. Try learning some Spanish before and during your trip with the girls. An on site "mama san" can help you in finding what you are looking for. The on-site restaurant has good food, and you are in a quiet area, where you can walk to the local restaurants, etc. Read the Blackbeard's thread for more details.

If you plan on spending 3 weeks (envy) consider spending time in Sosua. All street and bar action. No quality control, so read the Sosua thread for more information there. Enjoy.
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Charles Pooter
04-16-19, 22:21
Hi Charles,

Thanks so much for the info. I will let you know once in the DR so we can meet and have lunch together.


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Chenz24
04-24-19, 20:47
I have not been in Blackbeard's since 2013 what is the rate for a room per nights and the rates for a session with a Chica for 1 to 2 hours Session and an Over Night Session.

Yanqui69
04-25-19, 15:45
I have not been in Blackbeard's since 2013 what is the rate for a room per nights and the rates for a session with a Chica for 1 to 2 hours Session and an Over Night Session.As you know, there are several different kinds of rooms there. Room rates can be found on their website.

Phoenix68
05-06-19, 18:47
Booked some time in the Costambar area. Near the Black Beards resort, but at a different property. Very chill and discreet area.

Had an escort come by I found online. Girl in her early 20's who was cute, but the experience felt sketchy. She wasn't very communicative and wasn't very GFE. I booked her for an hour, but I let her go after we finished about 15 minutes in to the date.

Found success on Dominican Cupid with a girl I had been exchanging messages with for a few weeks prior to the trip. She didn't look as good as her pictures (I expected that), but she made up with it with her GFE. I don't even think I've had an experience with a real girlfriend better than that! Even as she was leaving she said she didn't even want the money, but I told her to take it. Thought that was a surprise.

I regret not going over to Black Beards, but I wasn't feeling very social and had my own talent come to me.

Went into downtown Puerto Plata. Wasn't seeing any working girls, but maybe they're there. I just wasn't picking up any signals.

George03
05-28-19, 14:40
I have not been in Blackbeard's since 2013 what is the rate for a room per nights and the rates for a session with a Chica for 1 to 2 hours Session and an Over Night Session.I think the room rates are approximately $45 - $60 depending on the room. Probably some suites even more. Chica's are generally about $45 for short term, give or take a few dollars. You can email BB's, I think they will give you the info. Last trip for me was in January, 2019.

Oakie
05-29-19, 10:39
Booked some time in the Costambar area. Near the Black Beards resort, but at a different property. Very chill and discreet area.One of my favorite places to spend a day was on Constambar beach, down the street from Blackbeards.

Marina's little beach restaurant shack with fresh fish cooked on an open wood fire. My PP chica worked part time there. Around the bend were some great little beach bars too.

My chica say's Marina has been bought out, as have the other bars along the strip by Lifestyle, who plan a resort there.

At the same time, La Cosita Rica on the PP Malecon was another favorite beach hangout (opposite the Neptune statue) where a friend of the family worked, has also closed and been bough out by Lifestyle.

Co-incidence, or is something really happening in the area?

Anybody with info?

Yanqui69
05-29-19, 19:12
I have not been in Blackbeard's since 2013 what is the rate for a room per nights and the rates for a session with a Chica for 1 to 2 hours Session and an Over Night Session.As stated, you can email them for details.

That said, I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but try using their website or newsletter for information about rooms, rates, etc.

Yanqui69
05-29-19, 19:18
One of my favorite places to spend a day was on Constambar beach, down the street from Blackbeards.

Marina's little beach restaurant shack with fresh fish cooked on an open wood fire. My PP chica worked part time there. Around the bend were some great little beach bars too.

My chica say's Marina has been bought out, as have the other bars along the strip by Lifestyle, who plan a resort there.

At the same time, La Cosita Rica on the PP Malecon was another favorite beach hangout (opposite the Neptune statue) where a friend of the family worked, has also closed and been bough out by Lifestyle.

Co-incidence, or is something really happening in the area?

Anybody with info?No shortage of rumors there. If it is true that a resort chain is buying out properties, I am speculating that it could prove to be a boom for BB, since guests at a resort could walk down the beach for a quickie at BB.

The other alternative is that they could buy out BB, though it is not a beachfront property. That would be a shame, as BB is a great place for those new to the DR. I still prefer it to the other alternatives.

Should be interesting to monitor for developments.

D Cups
12-27-19, 15:42
Guys,

I'm staying in Cabarete 9 - 13 January and looking for a good place to watch the divisionals. Is there someplace like Hooters that broadcasts the games in English in Cabarete, Puerto Plata or someplace else nearby? Any replies appreciated!

CPalmson
12-28-19, 22:58
I'm a noob to this forum and a noob for traveling to the DR, but I'm not a noob to mongering. I'm thinking of taking a sex vacation to the DR in April or May. I'm considering Puerto Plata (and surrounding area) as well as Punta Cana. I'm looking for advice on where to get the best bang for my buck. I've done a lot of research on options. For me it boils down to 3 methods. Method one is to simply go with an all-inclusive resort like Senses Private Club in Punta Cana or Playboy vacations in Puerto Plata. Option two for me is to play the field while on vacation and see what I can land on my own. Option three seems to be splitting the difference and trying a hotel like Blackbeards where Chicas are on premises but not tied to an all inclusive arrangement. There is a lot going into driving my decision. First is the quality of the Chica and my expectations. I won't settle for any Chica less than an 8. I expect a wide-open experience without a lot of rules. I also want a girl who will be with me 24/7 and possibly another girl as well for a day. I'm also interested in partying at night and taking a Chica with me for excursions during the day like a catamaran cruise or zip-lining I. E. Something fun with the girl besides bedroom fun. One thing I see as a possible impediment is my lack of Spanish. Other than a few common phrases, I know nothing. I know this hurt me as I try to score. So, for those of you who are DR experts, what is your advice?

SubCmdr
12-29-19, 04:05
There is a lot going into driving my decision. First is the quality of the Chica and my expectations. I won't settle for any Chica less than an 8. I expect a wide-open experience without a lot of rules. I also want a girl who will be with me 24/7 and possibly another girl as well for a day. I'm also interested in partying at night and taking a Chica with me for excursions during the day like a catamaran cruise or zip-lining I. E. Something fun with the girl besides bedroom fun. One thing I see as a possible impediment is my lack of Spanish. Other than a few common phrases, I know nothing. I know this hurt me as I try to score. So, for those of you who are DR experts, what is your advice?Mr. CPalmason,

My advice is to open up your wallet and just let the chicas rummage around in it until they get enough to satisfy their needs. Just make sure they satisfy yours while they are at it. LOL!

Getting all your expectations met while "ballin on a budget" like I do is going to be difficult without a command of Spanish. Since you are mongering vet an intermediary maybe helpful given your laundry list. Punta Cana has many agencies that specialize in the type of girls your are interested in. And the activities are there also. For Puerto Plata there are many more experts on the north coast that can help you. Will they speak up and actually contribute any useful information is another story. Don't pay any attention to those who don't have your money but who will be quick to tell you how to spend it.

If you don't have PM get it. There are many who may be willing to help you behind the scenes. But be aware that many new posters come into the forum get help from others, have a successful trip and then don't post a trip report. I know of two of such individuals right now that I've helped but that I consider it a waste of my time afterwards because they did not post a trip report or provide and information or references to me personally. But that's just part of the program around here.

Questner
12-29-19, 04:34
I'm a noob to this forum and a noob for traveling to the DR, but I'm not a noob to mongering. I'm thinking of taking a sex vacation to the DR in April or May. I'm considering Puerto Plata (and surrounding area) as well as Punta Cana. I'm looking for advice on where to get the best bang for my buck. I've done a lot of research on options. For me it boils down to 3 methods. Method one is to simply go with an all-inclusive resort like Senses Private Club in Punta Cana or Playboy vacations in Puerto Plata. Option two for me is to play the field while on vacation and see what I can land on my own. Option three seems to be splitting the difference and trying a hotel like Blackbeards where Chicas are on premises but not tied to an all inclusive arrangement. There is a lot going into driving my decision. First is the quality of the Chica and my expectations. I won't settle for any Chica less than an 8. I expect a wide-open experience without a lot of rules. I also want a girl who will be with me 24/7 and possibly another girl as well for a day. I'm also interested in partying at night and taking a Chica with me for excursions during the day like a catamaran cruise or zip-lining I. E. Something fun with the girl besides bedroom fun. One thing I see as a possible impediment is my lack of Spanish. Other than a few common phrases, I know nothing. I know this hurt me as I try to score. So, for those of you who are DR experts, what is your advice?There is Semana Santa in April, and usually more rain and lack of tourists in May. These are important. Don't do Punta Cana. Don't stay at AI resorts. BB is an option for a start for couple of days, for example first part of the week. Lack of Spanish matters a lot in my view, but others may disagree. You can easily fill your excursions schedule from the North Coast. Personally I think the best option is still to stay in Sosua (even with recent changes) in a small hotel, apartment or villa and take it from there. You can use social media and convince your 8's and up to visit you. One of the greatest advantages of Sosua is it's mixed environment of expats, locals, Haitians, tourists and hobbyists, you can make new friendships.

CPalmson
12-29-19, 07:43
There is Semana Santa in April, and usually more rain and lack of tourists in May. These are important. Don't do Punta Cana. Don't stay at AI resorts. BB is an option for a start for couple of days, for example first part of the week. Lack of Spanish matters a lot in my view, but others may disagree. You can easily fill your excursions schedule from the North Coast. Personally I think the best option is still to stay in Sosua (even with recent changes) in a small hotel, apartment or villa and take it from there. You can use social media and convince your 8's and up to visit you. One of the greatest advantages of Sosua is it's mixed environment of expats, locals, Haitians, tourists and hobbyists, you can make new friendships.Thanks for the advice. I forgot to mention that this would be a 4 night vacation. What recent changes in Sosua? Is Classico still the best place to meet higher end girls? What about the Casa Marina Beach Resort? Good place to stay?

OldKool
12-29-19, 13:02
I never stay in Cabereti but I am sure the restaurants have the games but I know in Sosua Flip Flops New rumbas and Envee are devoted to having multiple games.


Guys,

I'm staying in Cabarete 9 - 13 January and looking for a good place to watch the divisionals. Is there someplace like Hooters that broadcasts the games in English in Cabarete, Puerto Plata or someplace else nearby? Any replies appreciated!

Questner
12-30-19, 04:03
Thanks for the advice. I forgot to mention that this would be a 4 night vacation. What recent changes in Sosua? Is Classico still the best place to meet higher end girls? What about the Casa Marina Beach Resort? Good place to stay?Clasico's has been shut down. Casa Marina has recently reopened after renovation, you have to verify the details: it's good for family tourism and not guest friendly. There is no higher end in Sosua and has never been. 4 nights is a very tight schedule and you may benefit from a wingman, or some other assistance.

Kozak
01-05-20, 16:42
Hi All, Wanted to ask if anyone know tyhe current Canadian exchange rate is for DOP looking on line the average is 1 cdn to 40-41 dop. I am staying at BB's and if anyone know what Jennys is exchanging at that would be great I will check WU online also just in case. I will also be using the ATM so will need to check that rate when I try it. Thanks.

MrHappyKat
01-05-20, 22:01
Hi All, Wanted to ask if anyone know tyhe current Canadian exchange rate is for DOP looking on line the average is 1 cdn to 40-41 dop. I am staying at BB's and if anyone know what Jennys is exchanging at that would be great I will check WU online also just in case. I will also be using the ATM so will need to check that rate when I try it. Thanks.https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=CAD&To=DOP

Jenny's will be fairly close to this, and will probably be one of the best rates you will find. Stay away from airport change booths, or just use them for a small amount to cover taxi or local transport to BB, if you didn't ask Robin to arrange a ride for you (which will be included in your BB bill). You can go to Jenny's as often as you like, but I had no problem getting enough cash for 10 days and keeping it my room safe.

And does it really matter to you if you get 40 to 1 or 41 to 1. If you change $1,000 CAD at 40 you will get $40,000 DOP. At 41 you will get 41,000 DOP. That's a difference of $24.40 CAD. Spend your time picking hot chicas rather than tryin to save $20 CAD.

Questner
01-05-20, 23:54
Hi All, Wanted to ask if anyone know tyhe current Canadian exchange rate is for DOP looking on line the average is 1 cdn to 40-41 dop. I am staying at BB's and if anyone know what Jennys is exchanging at that would be great I will check WU online also just in case. I will also be using the ATM so will need to check that rate when I try it. Thanks.Cash exchange and ATM withdrawal rates will differ. For CAD cash you may verify this 'compra' rate https://do.scotiabank.com/banca-personal/tarifas/tasas-de-cambio.html.

Manizales911
01-06-20, 02:26
https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=CAD&To=DOP

Jenny's will be fairly close to this, and will probably be one of the best rates you will find. Stay away from airport change booths, or just use them for a small amount to cover taxi or local transport to BB, if you didn't ask Robin to arrange a ride for you (which will be included in your BB bill). You can go to Jenny's as often as you like, but I had no problem getting enough cash for 10 days and keeping it my room safe.

And does it really matter to you if you get 40 to 1 or 41 to 1. If you change $1,000 CAD at 40 you will get $40,000 DOP. At 41 you will get 41,000 DOP. That's a difference of $24.40 CAD. Spend your time picking hot chicas rather than tryin to save $20 CAD.WRONG. Nobody including Jenny's is going to give a good rate on CAD, the DR needs USD badly so yeah you can get the going rate or in a lot of cases OVER the going rate. CAD, nope. You will be lucky to get 36-1.

Husker Dude
01-06-20, 03:45
WRONG. Nobody including Jenny's is going to give a good rate on CAD, the DR needs USD badly so yeah you can get the going rate or in a lot of cases OVER the going rate. CAD, nope. You will be lucky to get 36-1.Manizales is right. When I was in DR in Sept, US was 52-1 & Canadian was 36.5-1.

SubCmdr
01-06-20, 05:56
I was in Santo Domingo este near V ave, just last week, and a Caribe Express had a sign out for 53.1 DOP to 1 USD. I deal in USD and I have found that my bank Schawb gives me the best exchange rates through ATM's through out the world. But I always bring a fist full of Benjis back from my country of origin. So, occasionally I need to exchange cold hard efectivo (cash baby). I cannot comment on CAD as I don't deal in that currency. But the dollar is on a serious run. But remember what comes up must go down. And we ain't talking dick action here fellas.

As for the advice that 1000 pesos don't matter, well maybe if you are rich off-islander gringo, I understand your perspective. But I most certainly don't agree with it. But that might be because I'm a poor gringo negro trying to get by day to day on the island. I be balling on a budget.

Now I'm not going to tell another man how to spend his money or set value. But I will tell you that by valuing things in USD instead of knowing the value of DOP you could be selling yourself short. If a girl charges 2000 DOP to fuck 1000 pesos is half of what you need to get your dick off just one more time by doing nothing more than taking advantage of the best exchange rate you can find. #1000 DOPmatters!

Hey but you rich off-islanders can feel free to throw your money around. After you leave I'm just going to tell the same girls that I live here and don't pay gringo tourist prices. Nothing like getting your dick sucked at local rates. Holla!

Dowhatchalike!

FunMan13
03-09-20, 01:54
I will be in NYC at the end of July and have about a week to "spare". I am thinking of going to DR. I have never been to DR for mongering but have received BB's newsletters for years. The main reason I have never visited North DR is because I live in Houston and there's no direct flight to POP. I will make a decision this week. Thank you guys for all your posts. I have read them back to 2016. Keep 'them coming.

John Clayton
03-09-20, 04:12
I will be in NYC at the end of July and have about a week to "spare". I am thinking of going to DR...Dude, hurricane season. I lived in the West Indies for many years, and I will never travel anywhere north of Trinidad from July to end of September. Just too risky. The weather can be super nice, but it can also just pour down for a solid week even if there isn't a hurricane.

Charles Pooter
03-09-20, 14:48
Dude, hurricane season. I lived in the West Indies for many years, and I will never travel anywhere north of Trinidad from July to end of September. Just too risky. The weather can be super nice, but it can also just pour down for a solid week even if there isn't a hurricane.I have lived in Puerto Plata for thirteen years. No hurricane has hit Puerto Plata since the 1900's. Four or five tropical storms have visited us during my thirteen years but none in the past 12 months. They can make life miserable for the locals but rarely affect the places gringos go for more than a day.

Two years ago there was much hysteria about Hurricane Irma. The worst it did to me was power out for twelve hours and blowing a lot of leaves and twigs onto my balcony. Children were playing in the street during the height of the storm (admittedly not very sensible). And that was allegedly the worst Pto Pta would have to face. A day later it was hot and dry as usual.

Much worse has been our current weather in Feb / March. A week of cold and rain two weeks ago and now the same again. Much more miserable than any tropical storm I have experienced here.

I only speak for Puerto Plata (since you have posted in that section). The mountain gives us a special micro-climate.

John Clayton
03-09-20, 17:24
I have lived in Puerto Plata for thirteen years. No hurricane has hit Puerto Plata since the 1900's...Yeah, point taken. POP is probably a pretty good spot: north shore, huge mountain range to the south and south east. You're right, hurricanes can be local, and I have seen a hundred houses destroyed in one valley while people a half a mile away were unscathed. Just sayin' even if there's no hurricane, the weather can still be shit that time of year.

Charles Pooter
03-09-20, 19:14
The weather can be shit any time of the year (like right now, for example). If you plan in advance you have to take pot luck. My point is the likelihood of being inconvenienced by a hurricane in July in Puerto Plata or Sosua is very low, and the chance of being seriously inconvenienced is almost nil. No reason at all not to book if you are coming to fuck chicas indoors. If you are coming for sea-fishing, or hiking, or hang-gliding, then maybe worth being a little cautious.

If FunMan13 is a Catholic, he can be reassured, as all Dominicans will tell him that Saint Altagracia always diverts hurricanes away from the North Coast. Non-Catholics are not covered by that policy.

Statistically, Puerto Plata is overdue for an earthquake. Maybe tomorrow, maybe in thirty years, but probably sooner than a direct hurricane hit. Maybe worry about that instead?

However if one is bothered by extreme heat, that is a different matter. The temperature can sometimes hover around "feels like" 100 Fahrenheit for a week or two in July / August.

Oakie
03-09-20, 19:43
The weather can be shit any time of the year (like right now, for example). If you plan in advance you have to take pot luck. My point is the likelihood of being inconvenienced by a hurricane in July in Puerto Plata or Sosua is very low, and the chance of being seriously inconvenienced is almost nil. No reason at all not to book if you are coming to fuck chicas indoors. If you are coming for sea-fishing, or hiking, or hang-gliding, then maybe worth being a little cautious.

If FunMan13 is a Catholic, he can be reassured, as all Dominicans will tell him that Saint Altagracia always diverts hurricanes away from the North Coast. Non-Catholics are not covered by that policy.

Statistically, Puerto Plata is overdue for an earthquake. Maybe tomorrow, maybe in thirty years, but probably sooner than a direct hurricane hit. Maybe worry about that instead?

However if one is bothered by extreme heat, that is a different matter. The temperature can sometimes hover around "feels like" 100 Fahrenheit for a week or two in July / August.I've been here through most of the major brushes with hurricanes. No problem if you are not at ground level during a flash flood, and it's back to normal in a day or two.

This winter has been cool and wet though for days at a time, and it does get dreary after 3 or 4 days. Still better than that sticky humid August heat though.

I'm across the bay from you, and I see that mountain with PP running up it a third of the way, and can't help wondering if that mutha blows one day, will they be digging out preserved copulating bodies from casas and clubs, and opining how the local population were obsessed with sex, like they do with Pompeii? LOL.

Questner
03-10-20, 03:17
You just have to show up to get laid; wait too long, and in million years the whole tectonic plate with POP on top of it is going to drift away.

FunMan13
03-10-20, 06:07
I live in Houston. I have lived through 4 hurricanes. Might be fun to hunker down, say in BB, to ride out the storm! The only disappointment would be if I cannot lunch with Sir Charles in the Malecon with the downpour. The July-August heat would probably be like Houston too.

Since it's my first time, I will follow the general advice to head for BB first. And yes, Sir Charles, I will remember to pledge to the Catholic Church before the trip. I hope BB is within her protected zone.

Happy Mongering.

Charles Pooter
03-14-20, 17:32
I will remember to pledge to the Catholic Church before the trip. I hope BB is within her protected zone.

I do not know about Barba Negra, but there used to be a brothel on the outskirts of Pto Pta called La Choza. The girls maintained a shrine with many candles, flowers and images. It was santeria rather than Catholicism proper, though.

Oakie
03-15-20, 10:32
I do not know about Barba Negra, but there used to be a brothel on the outskirts of Pto Pta called La Choza. The girls maintained a shrine with many candles, flowers and images. It was santeria rather than Catholicism proper, though.I'm sure the gods are smiling down on BB.

I made my annual pilgimage to Constambar a couple of days ago. Pleased to report that the beach is alive and well.

As I understand it, the beach bars were bought up / optioned by developers for a hotel development (Marriott? And some were razed. But that hasn't gotten going yet, if ever, and my favorite little bar shack is still there, rented again by the same couple that were bought out! So they did OK! We had a big beach party with the locals, lots of beer and ron, and yes, loud music, but that attracted locals and tourists alike. They all gravitated to our party area, and many new friends were made. Before the barbecue food was served, everybody quieted while Grace was said.

Still my favorite local beach and with BB just up the street (where the only action is) not a bad place for a visitor to spend a couple days, and chill out.

Your point about having a dedicated publico is the best kept secret for getting around for a day. Drop off and pick up on time, waiting around and stopping to pick up a few supplies, no problem. We've had the same guy for 4 years now. On the drive back and forth to PP, I tell him I don't mind if he picks up a few passengers (especially if she's hot), to make a few more pesos, but he always refuses. He seems to be happy with our deal.

FunMan13
03-28-20, 07:36
Many years ago, in every Mexican town along the border with Texas, there was always an RLD. They're called Boys Town. The chicas would rent little rooms in the complex. Most of them would have a small altar in the room with a picture of Jesus and a statue of the Virgin Mary in the form of Our Lady of Guadalupe. I could never session with these girls knowing that Jesus and His Mother are watching!


I do not know about Barba Negra, but there used to be a brothel on the outskirts of Pto Pta called La Choza. The girls maintained a shrine with many candles, flowers and images. It was santeria rather than Catholicism proper, though.

FunMan13
03-28-20, 07:51
Oakie,

COVID-19 is not affecting the area? That's great.

Right now I am supposed to be in Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand for a month. I had to rush back last weekend before the borders close. Now I am stuck home in Houston indefinitely and playing with myself!

Funman13.

Oakie
03-28-20, 10:00
Oakie,

COVID-19 is not affecting the area? That's great.

Right now I am supposed to be in Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand for a month. I had to rush back last weekend before the borders close. Now I am stuck home in Houston indefinitely and playing with myself!

Funman13.The entire DR is virtually shut down now (since the 19th).

A general curfew exists between 8 pm and 6 am.

Blackbeards is closed, as are all bars. Restaurants are all closed except a few that provide take-out.

No public transportation, no flights in or out except a very few taking stranded tourists home.

(Make sure you disinfect your keyboard, LOL).

Stay safe!

George03
03-28-20, 17:51
Oakie,

COVID-19 is not affecting the area? That's great.

Right now I am supposed to be in Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand for a month. I had to rush back last weekend before the borders close. Now I am stuck home in Houston indefinitely and playing with myself!

Funman13.Blackbeards is closed! I get a newsletter each month, closed until further notice!

FunMan13
03-29-20, 00:55
Well, I guess it's for the best. Thanks Oakie & George3. Be safe.

Darelax
04-02-20, 12:08
Just wondering how things are going in PP and surrounding areas? Has the virus spread much? Any news?

Charles Pooter
04-04-20, 17:00
Just wondering how things are going in PP and surrounding areas? Has the virus spread much? Any news?30 confirmed cases in Puerto Plata province (not just in the city) and no deaths. The real figures are likely to be considerably higher because of lack of testing and poor communications, but will still be way better than a lot of places. So far. Who knows what the nest two weeks will bring?

The locals are trying really hard to conform to recommendations with their social distancing and face-masks. I am quite impressed. I did not think Dominicans and Haitians could be that disciplined. But they do not really understand the nature of the threat. For example, I saw two middle-aged men wearing face-masks enthusiastically shaking hands on meeting today. Most locals think the virus is floating around in the air. They do not realize the greater threat comes from touching people, animals, and objects.

Wrx2005
04-04-20, 21:24
The curfew currently in the Dominican Republic is 5 PM until 6 AM. Not 8 PM until 6 AM.

FunMan13
04-05-20, 03:57
Thank you Sir Charles & Sir Oakie for your PMs. No, I am not optimistic that the situation will be resolved by the end of July. However, the airlines are allowing free cancellations if we purchase tickets now. So there's nothing to lose. I am in no hurry to buy the tickets. I just want to work out the logistics on the ground.

Darelax
04-06-20, 15:54
30 confirmed cases in Puerto Plata province (not just in the city) and no deaths. The real figures are likely to be considerably higher because of lack of testing and poor communications, but will still be way better than a lot of places. So far. Who knows what the nest two weeks will bring?

The locals are trying really hard to conform to recommendations with their social distancing and face-masks. I am quite impressed. I did not think Dominicans and Haitians could be that disciplined. But they do not really understand the nature of the threat. For example, I saw two middle-aged men wearing face-masks enthusiastically shaking hands on meeting today. Most locals think the virus is floating around in the air. They do not realize the greater threat comes from touching people, animals, and objects.On the one hand you are giving good news, but on the other hand I not so good. I really hope that beautiful city and their people stay safe!

Yanqui69
04-25-20, 14:32
30 confirmed cases in Puerto Plata province (not just in the city) and no deaths. The real figures are likely to be considerably higher because of lack of testing and poor communications, but will still be way better than a lot of places. So far. Who knows what the nest two weeks will bring?

The locals are trying really hard to conform to recommendations with their social distancing and face-masks. I am quite impressed. I did not think Dominicans and Haitians could be that disciplined. But they do not really understand the nature of the threat. For example, I saw two middle-aged men wearing face-masks enthusiastically shaking hands on meeting today. Most locals think the virus is floating around in the air. They do not realize the greater threat comes from touching people, animals, and objects.Glad to see that you are well, Sir Charles.

Curious what you comment about the masks.

A friend in Santiago says the stores won't let people in with masks.

Wonder if they suppose that such people are infected, or afraid of robbery. ?

Charles Pooter
04-26-20, 14:41
A friend in Santiago says the stores won't let people in with masks.

Wonder if they suppose that such people are infected, or afraid of robbery. ?Thanks for your good wishes which I reciprocate.

I think there must be a miscommunication with your friend. In Puerto Plata, standard practice for supermarkets, utilities offices, banks and all "branded" establishments is to ban entry to anyone not wearing a mask. Colmados are not so strict, but still most staff and customers wear masks. I cannot believe Santiago would be much different.

Darelax
05-04-20, 15:17
I heard a few days ago from a friend of mine who lives in Puerto Plata that the virus is now so wide spread thanks to some religious meetings.

SubCmdr
05-10-20, 01:05
May 9, 2020 - Puerto Plata, DR.

"The confinement arranged by the government in this province, as a result of the massive concentration of people following the visit of the pilgrim of Villa Altagracia, Migdomio Adames, is carried out without a greater impact than the supervision of access at the east and west entrances of the city.

The movement of people and vehicles is carried out normally and this Friday there were ostensibly long lines of people to access the banks, supermarkets, and establishments that are operating here.

In the Banreservas main office, the line covered the entire Padre Castellanos street and a section of the Beller, after the intervention of police units and the Joint Task Force to avoid excessive crowds in front of a large number of clients of the bank branch.

On Beller Street itself, clients of Banco del Progreso, although in smaller numbers, lined up on the opposite sidewalk, seeking to protect themselves from the harsh sun and prevailing high temperatures.

Tourism and businesses affected.

Since the beginning of the quarantine, the businesses most impacted by the prohibition to open their doors are those related to tourism, restaurants, gift shops, and other establishments, with their doors closed, and the Plaza Independencia, usually full of tourists, completely desolate, to the extent that in full activity the city hall was the only space for mobility around the plaza. Some taxi units of the tourist union, which have seen their activities diminish, transport local clients who are currently requesting their services.

Some tour guides also wander around the square, so as not to lose the habit of being in their usual place of work. No vendors of water, coconuts, or hats for visitors are observed.

Numerous commercial establishments, clothing stores, sale of articles for cell phones, false hair, cosmetics, candy stores, beauty salons, and others closed for almost two months waiting for better times.

Along the streets, like Separaci and, it is devastating to see the row of closed businesses that abound in one of the main commercial arteries of the city.

Businesses closed due to noncompliance.

Last Thursday's session was one of the most intense for the Police and Joint Task Force units. Ten businesses were provisionally closed when it was found that they did not comply with the social distancing rules imposed by the health authorities. Grocery stores, colmados (local small markets), and other establishments were also closed, during the operation in which the most visible was the very busy Las Margaritas store, at the intersection between the calls Beller and San Felipe, in the same historical center of the city, the store that sells everything from cosmetics, groceries, and plastics, has little interior aisle space, and customers often accumulate with less than a half-meter distance from each other.

Irregular supplies.

The main supermarkets in the city, the two establishments of the Jos Luis Supermarket, La Sirena and Jumbo, maintain a fairly normal stock of groceries and other items, but in some cases, it is evident how at certain times there are scarce items, milk without lactose, wheat flour, regular yogurt in one-liter containers, prepackaged meats, are currently not on the shelves, certain usual brands of salamis, corn flakes, or imported butter, etc. One day they are there and another not.

While in the streets adjacent to the municipal market, vendors of groceries and vegetables from the vans or on the sidewalks offer their products to customers from before 6 in the morning until close to two in the afternoon when they pick up their merchandise.

In recent days, trucks selling bananas, pumpkins, watermelons, pineapples, and other products have proliferated, located on busy streets to offer their products to passers-by.

Checkpoints.

At the eastern entrance to the city next to the number two entrance to Playa Dorada, one-to-one checks are carried out on vehicles entering or leaving the city, in a friendly way, the police and military personnel stationed at the site inquire of the drivers their destinations, they ensure that there are no excess passengers and those motorcycle riders are properly equipped with a protective helmet and that they justify the reason why they are transiting from one place to another.

Lieutenant Fabiand explained to this reporter that in compliance with the instructions of the superiors, there is kindly advisement to ensure that only those people who, due to work commitments, have to drive. Trucks and other goods transport vehicles to markets and other establishments and people who go to medical check-ups, mainly constitute this group.

The events.

Malecon.

In the Malecon the activity has been drastically reduced equally, restaurants, bars and the traditional booths in the upper part are closed, in the morning some people are seen walking, running or cycling, the majority with masks in place or half in place and people who come out to sit and talk in the fresh air sitting at a safe distance.

The 4 o'clock time limit.

From 4 o'clock pm Is when the city really begins to feel the real respite, the circulation of vehicles drastically decreases, the motoconchos disappear and in general, the most active streets slow as the clock edges toward 5 pm When the movement of people, motorbikes, and other vehicles becomes almost non-existent".

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2020/05/09/in-puerto-plata-people-pay-little-attention-to-confinement-measures/

Oakie
05-10-20, 10:41
Entry into and out of PP is restricted to essential travel and is closely monitored with checkpoints.

My PP regular has been turned back twice in the last 2 weeks, trying to get to Sosua. The last time she was here, two weeks ago, she slipped through on a motoconcho. She was carrying sopa, she showed them, for a sick family member. That's dedication, LOL.

She gets down from the stifling hot barrio to the deserted beach almost every day with her kid, but soon gets warned off by the cops. She doesn't mind, they are usually polite and she gets at least a half hour of fresh air, before they show up.

She's dying to get back to my place again, with the pool, fresh white sheets, unlimited showers, and a cold Corona at the small bar here, tended by her amiga.

She's likely to show up with that big smile on her face, bearing gifts, any day now. She'll text me in advance, and I'll say, "Si".

FunMan13
06-13-20, 05:39
It's been a month since Oakie's report. Any sign of improvement? Or worse? I still have the air ticket to come from NYC in the last week of July. Thanks.

Tempoecorto
06-13-20, 20:02
It's been a month since Oakie's report. Any sign of improvement? Or worse? I still have the air ticket to come from NYC in the last week of July. Thanks.There are two sets of situations: NYC and when it allows International travel (with or without quarantine on return) and secondly, the DR. As we speak, the US is reporting spikes in several states and so I think it is going to be a toss up and in the end, it is going to be your call based on how comfortable you will feel rubbing shoulders while flying.

Oakie
06-14-20, 09:02
It's been a month since Oakie's report. Any sign of improvement? Or worse? I still have the air ticket to come from NYC in the last week of July. Thanks.Improvement.

Deaths have flat lined in the neighborhood of 500.

DR is in Phase 2 of gradual re-opening.

Curfew is reduced to 8 pm to 5 am, until June 27th, but SOE extended to June 30th.

Public transportation is allowed, with extra space required, and fewer passengers, (but resulting in longer wait times).

Businesses are open, salons, general stores. Even La Pulgas.

Churches re-opened.

Schools scheduled to open August 24.

Gyms to reopen July 5.

PP Airport to re-open July 4.

Hotels and AB&BS are taking reservations.

In my favorite barrio, Domingo Sociale is unaffected, plastic chairs lined up on the street by the colmado, no masks, no spacing, beer shared.

Some restaurants doing good business with back room bars.

More begging on the street, but fruit is cheap and plentiful, bananas are almost free, and free mangos are growing everywhere around town.

Lots of hungry chicas to be had from your smart phone.

Stay safe!

FunMan13
06-15-20, 05:36
I will wait and see. I will check out the Sosua Thread too.

Funman13.

FunMan13
06-15-20, 05:46
There are two sets of situations: NYC and when it allows International travel (with or without quarantine on return) and secondly, the DR. As we speak, the US is reporting spikes in several states and so I think it is going to be a toss up and in the end, it is going to be your call based on how comfortable you will feel rubbing shoulders while flying.Hi Tempoecorto,

I am not worried about the flying part. I was in 6 Asian countries from last December to February. I flew back to USA in mid February. Then I made a round trip to Singapore in the third week of March, just days before the airports were shut down. You cannot contract the virus inside a plane if you practice hygiene. If it's easy to contract the virus inside a plane, all airlines would have been shut down.

But your point about NYC is valid. They may not allow international travel. Heck, I may not even be allowed to travel to NYC from Texas. I have to keep staying on top of the fluid situation. But Thank you for your insight.

Funman13.

Mr Enternational
06-15-20, 06:34
You cannot contract the virus inside a plane if you practice hygiene. If it's easy to contract the virus inside a plane, all airlines would have been shut down.
Those are strong words. Please elaborate. What is hygiene in this case? What is special about airplanes when compared to other places that you cannot contract the virus there if you practice hygiene? So why didn't everyone just climb into airplanes and start practicing hygiene in order to avoid this entire ordeal if what you are saying is the truth? Where is an easy place to contract it if not inside a plane? Can you go to these easy places and practice hygiene and not be able to contract it there as well? Is the place or hygiene or both the key to not contracting it? So I can be sitting inside a metal tube for 12 hours with recycled air among 10 people with the virus and cannot catch it because I was practicing hygiene?

Zeos1
06-15-20, 14:01
Those are strong words. Please elaborate. What is hygiene in this case? What is special about airplanes when compared to other places that you cannot contract the virus there if you practice hygiene? So why didn't everyone just climb into airplanes and start practicing hygiene in order to avoid this entire ordeal if what you are saying is the truth? Where is an easy place to contract it if not inside a plane? Can you go to these easy places and practice hygiene and not be able to contract it there as well? Is the place or hygiene or both the key to not contracting it? So I can be sitting inside a metal tube for 12 hours with recycled air among 10 people with the virus and cannot catch it because I was practicing hygiene?You will not get it through "recycled air". Especially in a plane as the air is filtered as it is recycled, and this only moves in conjunction with water droplets. So hygiene is distance from people, masks, handwashing, touching surfaces.

So yes, if the person beside you was shedding virus heavily there would be risk, but if everyone kept masks on and were perfect in hygiene risk would be low. But I wouldn't want to be that person because I've been two seats away from someone sneezing and wheezing. Stressful. And to ensure that everyone follows all hygiene guidelines. It will never happen.

YyzTravel
06-15-20, 14:04
Lots of hungry chicas to be had from your smart phone.

Stay safe!Exactly what I'm looking to hear.

Tempoecorto
06-15-20, 21:15
I am not worried about the flying part. Funman13.I am attaching a picture today from today's NYT. Do I want to be part of a sci-fi?

The problem here is that there are states where there are spikes. This means there is no guarantee that someone asymptotic from Florida would not hop on the plane I am, which would be a problem despite the better air filters, airlines are speaking of. Also the issue of the health of the airline crew, who do this for a living. The other thing is quarantine on the way back. Clearly, for those that travel to Brazil, it is going to be an interesting one.

Questner
06-16-20, 01:23
While on boarding obviously and on a tarmac aircon system doesn't work like during the flight.

Yonkers44
06-16-20, 02:13
(QUOTE=Oakie;2458373]Improvement.

Deaths have flat lined in the neighborhood of 500.).

Unfortunely the numbers given by the goverment don't provide reasons to feel good about it. As of today, 6/15/20, the number of deaths went over 600 and the new cases reported are increasing at a faster rate than ever before. The authorities have to choose between people starving or trying to limit the spread. I don't think they will be able or willing to shut the economy again any more than the governors in the US SouthWest will in spite of the reported increase of cases. We are not out of the woods by any means and nobody knows how all of this will end.

Oakie
06-16-20, 08:49
(QUOTE=Oakie;2458373]Improvement.

Deaths have flat lined in the neighborhood of 500.).

Unfortunely the numbers given by the goverment don't provide reasons to feel good about it. As of today, 6/15/20, the number of deaths went over 600 and the new cases reported are increasing at a faster rate than ever before. The authorities have to choose between people starving or trying to limit the spread. I don't think they will be able or willing to shut the economy again any more than the governors in the US SouthWest will in spite of the reported increase of cases. We are not out of the woods by any means and nobody knows how all of this will end.The country is still under strict curfew, and nobody is "feeling" good about the problem.

But feelings aside, deaths are a lagging indicator, and new cases are in fact declining, according to the Ministry of Public Health's Department of Epidemiology.

"The fatality RATE continues to decline and as of Bulletin #87 is at 2. 58%. ".

Previous bulletin results have been:

Bulletin #87:22,572 confirmed cases, 390 new cases, 592 deaths.

Bulletin #86:22,572 confirmed cases, 564 new cases, 577 deaths.

Bulletin #85:22,008 confirmed cases, 571 new cases, 568 deaths.

Bulletin #84:21,437 confirmed cases, 629 new cases, 561 deaths.

And yes, we do know how this will end. This pandemic will end, like all pandemics. With today's available medical technology, the unprecedented extreme co-ordinated global response, treatment, and an eventual vaccine.

It's just a matter of time.

In the meantime, stay safe!

OnePocketWill
06-29-20, 05:07
Looking to see if someone has quality entertainment or inside information to set up a birthday party in late August in PoP. Looking for high quality but not an insane USA pricing guide. Thanks!

Charles Pooter
07-01-20, 04:23
Looking to see if someone has quality entertainment or inside information to set up a birthday party in late August in PoP. Looking for high quality but not an insane USA pricing guide. Thanks!Late August may be OK, but I would not commit yourselves for a month or two to see how the pandemic goes. A local flare-up (as is happening in so many areas, including the USA) and things could still be totally or partially shut-down. It will not be much of a party if you and the chicas have to wear masks and stay two metres apart.

I am a bit confused as to your intended location. POP is a small airport with no hotels or entertainment suites, so I assume you do not mean there.

Do you mean anywhere within reasonable travelling distance of the airport, in which case Sosua would be a likely venue? If you mean Puerto Plata City (abbreviation is Pto Pta) then the two obvious venues are Blackbeards or Oasis. Oasis is not generally recommended, but if you have a sizable party you will have the muscle to make it work for you. You could stay onsite or in one of the many hotels or rental properties in Playa Dorada, which is walking distance from Oasis.

Guys do not come to the Dominican Republic for "high quality". I live here and it is a third-world shit-hole (but a lot of fun). They come for "value for money".

Darelax
07-01-20, 15:46
Looking to see if someone has quality entertainment or inside information to set up a birthday party in late August in PoP. Looking for high quality but not an insane USA pricing guide. Thanks!Air tickets, accommodation and the party is cheaper in DR than just the party in the USA? That's great!

MrIncognito25
07-06-20, 19:07
Hello Gentlemen,

I guess with quarantining I had some free time and recently discovered this forum and vacations such as this exist. While I am new to the concept of sex vacations, I have been a local monger for years, primarily massage parlors and a few traveling escorts. With that said, once this craziness of this COVID crap dies down I will be taking a much needed vacation to the DR. I have been reading the forums, looking at places I can find online and have contacted a few All inclusive full service resorts. The impression I get is that most of these places are full of crap, they overcharge and don't provide the caliber of woman presented in photos. It seems that most on here recommend Blackbeards as a good starting point. I have also read about Oasis (apparently similar to BB but pricier). My Spanish is pretty much nonexistent, so I am sure that increases the difficulty. Honestly, I like the idea of having a companion or two for 24 hours, the time limit thing or one and done is a mood killer for me. I also prefer quality over attractiveness. I would much rather be with a companion who is at least good at pretending they are interested in having fun over a gorgeous woman who is dead inside. With that background I have a few questions:

Has anyone had a good experience using a company before? It is worth it to me to pay a little extra for convenience.

Are there other non inclusive full service hotels besides Blackbeards and Oasis?

I am in the process of getting a subscription, and I am sure I will be locked in the States for a few months but any information anyone is willing to share is much appreciated.

Thank you fro taking the time to read!

Husker Dude
07-06-20, 21:12
Hello Gentlemen,

I guess with quarantining I had some free time and recently discovered this forum and vacations such as this exist. While I am new to the concept of sex vacations, I have been a local monger for years, primarily massage parlors and a few traveling escorts. With that said, once this craziness of this COVID crap dies down I will be taking a much needed vacation to the DR. I have been reading the forums, looking at places I can find online and have contacted a few All inclusive full service resorts. The impression I get is that most of these places are full of crap, they overcharge and don't provide the caliber of woman presented in photos. It seems that most on here recommend Blackbeards as a good starting point. I have also read about Oasis (apparently similar to BB but pricier). My Spanish is pretty much nonexistent, so I am sure that increases the difficulty. Honestly, I like the idea of having a companion or two for 24 hours, the time limit thing or one and done is a mood killer for me. I also prefer quality over attractiveness. I would much rather be with a companion who is at least good at pretending they are interested in having fun over a gorgeous woman who is dead inside. With that background I have a few questions:

Has anyone had a good experience using a company before? It is worth it to me to pay a little extra for convenience.

Are there other non inclusive full service hotels besides Blackbeards and Oasis?

I am in the process of getting a subscription, and I am sure I will be locked in the States for a few months but any information anyone is willing to share is much appreciated.

Thank you fro taking the time to read!I would recommend Blackbeards to start out since you don't speak Spanish. If you want to keep a chica longer at Blackbeardss, just negotiate. Not all can spend the night with you because most have kids. Oasis is following a similar style pattern, but hardly anyone stays there. It is isolated with no restaurants or anything nearby. Blackbeards is in a community with restaurants and a beach nearby.

CoolGregg
07-07-20, 05:37
Looking to see if someone has quality entertainment or inside information to set up a birthday party in late August in PoP. Looking for high quality but not an insane USA pricing guide. Thanks!Hey bro, I can help you with your needs. Pm me partygetaway at gmail.

Agvital
07-20-20, 19:32
Alright guys got some questions about blackbeards. I've read reviews and almost everyone says its paradise so I'm excited but I have a few mongering questions. I see the fixed rates but has anyone had luck paying for "extras" with the girls at blackbeards? Also does has anyone been recently that has a chica to recommend? Any info would be much appreciated. Can't wait to go and ill be sure to share my experiences when I go.

Manizales911
07-21-20, 00:21
Alright guys got some questions about blackbeards. I've read reviews and almost everyone says its paradise so I'm excited but I have a few mongering questions. I see the fixed rates but has anyone had luck paying for "extras" with the girls at blackbeards? Also does has anyone been recently that has a chica to recommend? Any info would be much appreciated. Can't wait to go and ill be sure to share my experiences when I go.You can negotiate any extras that you want to with the girls, some girls will be willing and others will not. You can also ask the mamasans to recommend specific girls that might be willing to do whatever perverted kinky shit you might be into, LOL.

Bliadun
07-21-20, 00:46
Sometimes mamasan can tell you that particular chica does not do something, but if the chica desperately needs money she can agree to whatever. A lot depends on your personality and size. Some things could be included in a standart fee, so ask before paying extra.


You can negotiate any extras that you want to with the girls, some girls will be willing and others will not. You can also ask the mamasans to recommend specific girls that might be willing to do whatever perverted kinky shit you might be into, LOL.

Travis McGee
07-21-20, 23:27
I told one of the mamasans I was looking for girls who took it up the ass. Sure enough, in the next half hour, several women approached me offering that. Don't be shy about asking the mamasans for what you want--there's nothing you can ask them for that they haven't heard (or probably done) many times before. And yes, since anal is an off-menu services, the price was negotiated.


Alright guys got some questions about blackbeards. I've read reviews and almost everyone says its paradise so I'm excited but I have a few mongering questions. I see the fixed rates but has anyone had luck paying for "extras" with the girls at blackbeards? Also does has anyone been recently that has a chica to recommend? Any info would be much appreciated. Can't wait to go and ill be sure to share my experiences when I go.

Oakie
07-25-20, 13:51
I love the opportunity to get away from tourist DR.

My plane leaves from Punta Cana so rented a cheap hotel up in town. $47 US. A day early. Didn't want the grande playa hotels. Got there to find it closed, and a phone number on the door but washed out by rain. No response to email or WhatsApp. Was about to leave. Asked around and got a neighbor who called the local manager. He showed up and signed me in. Clean room with Air. Great.

But everything shut down at 3 pm. No restaurants, no bars, only a couple of beers from the Colmado. No WiFi. No chicas hustling tourists, because there are no tourists. But everybody polite and helpful. Not a P4P town. So an early night.

Woke up at 5 figured my morning coffee fix would have to wait. Walked to the corner, past guys playing basketball at 6, and bingo! The only restaurant for miles was open! Good coffee, good breakfast, and hotel clerk shows up at 7, and gets me on WiFi.

Sat there and counted my blessings. Street full of young guys going to work somewhere, no hustlers or beggars. Never felt healthier, and now ready to face 14 day quarantine in Canada, and uptight people. I've traveled a lot. Just confirmed I was happier in DR than anywhere else! A good choice for me!

Can't wait to get back!

Manizales911
07-25-20, 18:29
" Don't be shy about asking the mamasans for what you want--there's nothing you can ask them for that they haven't heard (or probably done) many times before. ".

True. Krystal used to work as a puta at BB's before she became the mamason, I banged her a few times.

Bliadun
07-25-20, 18:37
She works both as chica and mamasan.


" Don't be shy about asking the mamasans for what you want--there's nothing you can ask them for that they haven't heard (or probably done) many times before. ".

True. Krystal used to work as a puta at BB's before she became the mamason, I banged her a few times.

Travis McGee
07-25-20, 20:49
I had the pleasure of mamasan Hilda in a trio with Michelle last October. Good times.


She works both as chica and mamasan.

Husker Dude
07-25-20, 20:54
She works both as chica and mamasan.LOL, Both mamasans Hilda & Krystal are readily available anytime. They are also a good source of any info on chicas and your preferences.

Oakie
07-26-20, 12:16
Can't wait to get back!Sorry, wrong forum!

George03
07-26-20, 17:41
LOL, Both mamasans Hilda & Krystal are readily available anytime. They are also a good source of any info on chicas and your preferences.I was trying to remember what the mamasans looked like, I thought they had a pic in one of the newsletters, but I couldn't find it. BTW, to whoever started this discussion, there is a Blackbeards thread down below.

George03
07-27-20, 03:16
Alright guys got some questions about blackbeards. I've read reviews and almost everyone says its paradise so I'm excited but I have a few mongering questions. I see the fixed rates but has anyone had luck paying for "extras" with the girls at blackbeards? Also does has anyone been recently that has a chica to recommend? Any info would be much appreciated. Can't wait to go and ill be sure to share my experiences when I go.There is a Blackbeards forum on this site. If you read through it, you will get a good idea of what is available. If you go to the Blackbeards site, you can sign up for a newsletter. Chica's come and go, so no telling how it will be if the lockdown ever ends.

LifeSoGood
07-31-20, 10:57
Hi everyone!

I may be headed to Sosua August 11th and I was wondering how to contact the mamasans referenced on this board. Thanks!

Oakie
08-01-20, 09:56
Hi everyone!

I may be headed to Sosua August 11th and I was wondering how to contact the mamasans referenced on this board. Thanks!There are no mamasans to speak of in Sosua.

Prostitution is legal, and Sosua has everything from fresh amateurs to hardened pros. Then there are the semi pros who work in the service industry.

Rebel Monger
08-01-20, 20:54
Hi everyone!

I may be headed to Sosua August 11th and I was wondering how to contact the mamasans referenced on this board. Thanks!Maybe the mamasans you're asking about are the ones in Blackbeards, which is not in Sosua. In the Dominican Republic you don't need intermediaries, prostitution is legal, pimping is not. Don't worry to much about things, just get there and see how things work out. Good hunting!

Darelax
09-01-20, 16:15
Hi everyone!

I may be headed to Sosua August 11th and I was wondering how to contact the mamasans referenced on this board. Thanks!Tell us how was it or how is the trip going? Did you get to go? Regards!

LifeSoGood
09-02-20, 03:57
Tell us how was it or how is the trip going? Did you get to go? Regards!Going great, thanks! I ended up coming a little later August 24th and started in Santo Domingo where I got my fill down on conde street and through Dominican Cupid Which is a great site for Cultivating. There is a Chinese hotel a couple blocks from independence Square, Xin Hua or something like that. You can get a Room for as little as 250 pesos for 2 hours which is great for a quickie. The quarantine is at 7:00 pm But the taxis run after hours and I have had the girls show up at 10 or 11 at my place for an overnight. Again Dominican Cupid is where I had a quiver of about a 1/2 a dozen ready willing and able beautiful girls to choose from.

I then headed to Sosua and got some street action but Dominican Cupid again came through with several girls that I cultivated in Puerto Plata.

Darelax
09-02-20, 16:29
Going great, thanks! I ended up coming a little later August 24th and started in Santo Domingo where I got my fill down on conde street and through Dominican Cupid Which is a great site for Cultivating. There is a Chinese hotel a couple blocks from independence Square, Xin Hua or something like that. You can get a Room for as little as 250 pesos for 2 hours which is great for a quickie. The quarantine is at 7:00 pm But the taxis run after hours and I have had the girls show up at 10 or 11 at my place for an overnight. Again Dominican Cupid is where I had a quiver of about a 1/2 a dozen ready willing and able beautiful girls to choose from.

I then headed to Sosua and got some street action but Dominican Cupid again came through with several girls that I cultivated in Puerto Plata.Ohhh I'm glad about it! I see you are having a lot of fun over there! Thanks for sharing the details.

I have no references from dominicancupid but I will search. Cheers!

Concarne
09-19-20, 19:21
Hey fellows,

I have been out of the rotation for a while. In Puerto Plata, by the Malecon, there used to be a gentlemans club with rocking talent. Was the name Cristal or Crystals? Is it still around? I imagine that is not open now with the curfew but wanted to know if it still exists.

Getting back to the DR due to the covid restrictions as I cannot go to my regular sites for now.

Thank you for the info!

Manizales911
09-19-20, 23:46
Hey fellows,

I have been out of the rotation for a while. In Puerto Plata, by the Malecon, there used to be a gentlemans club with rocking talent. Was the name Cristal or Crystals? Is it still around? I imagine that is not open now with the curfew but wanted to know if it still exists.

Getting back to the DR due to the covid restrictions as I cannot go to my regular sites for now.

Thank you for the info!It still exists but is not currently open due to covid restrictions.

MongerHunger
09-20-20, 00:39
Hey fellows,

I have been out of the rotation for a while. In Puerto Plata, by the Malecon, there used to be a gentlemans club with rocking talent. Was the name Cristal or Crystals? Is it still around? I imagine that is not open now with the curfew but wanted to know if it still exists.

Getting back to the DR due to the covid restrictions as I cannot go to my regular sites for now.

Thank you for the info!Is that the spot near Long Beach with the food spot near the end of the Malecon where it curves?

Nite_Runner
10-13-20, 19:25
Fellas,

Just returned from a week at BBs. While this was my first trip, I heard from MANY of the regulars (on station) that almost everything is back to normal. The biggest hassle I had was from the AA desk agent who tried to tell me that DR was not allowing PAX sans a recent PCL test. I showed the agent a copy of the latest country travel bulletin from the gov site and of course, she stated that it meant nothing as they could only rely on the guidance issued by AA. BL. She stated that I had to proceed at my own risk (no shit) and that I could be subject to being returned. Needless to say, there was NO issue with customs or immigration upon landing at STI.

While I spent most of my time at BBs, I did go to the beach almost every day and ventured into town only a few times. Nothing overly radical as I was just looking to relax. BB's featured two shifts of 10-12 ladies each, plenty of talent for most everyone present. All were very pleasant, some had a bit of drama, but nothing to get wound up about. Jenny's is open and busy as hell. I did do some booze pricing as the prices at Jenny's (booze) are the same as 2-3 places in town.

Headed back in Dec, let me know if anyone wants to join in.

N_R.

JustWatching69
10-14-20, 04:13
Just returned from a week at BBs. While this was my first trip, I heard from many of the regulars (on station) that almost everything is back to normal. The biggest hassle I had was from the AA desk agent who tried to tell me that DR was not allowing PAX sans a recent PCL test. I showed the agent a copy of the latest country travel bulletin from the gov site and of course, she stated that it meant nothing as they could only rely on the guidance issued by AA. BL. She stated that I had to proceed at my own risk (no shit) and that I could be subject to being returned. Needless to say, there was no issue with customs or immigration upon landing at STI.

While I spent most of my time at BBs, I did go to the beach almost every day and ventured into town only a few times. Nothing overly radical as I was just looking to relax. BB's featured two shifts of 10-12 ladies each, plenty of talent for most everyone present. All were very pleasant, some had a bit of drama, but nothing to get wound up about. Jenny's is open and busy as hell. I did do some booze pricing as the prices at Jenny's (booze) are the same as 2-3 places in town.

Headed back in Dec, let me know if anyone wants to join.

I'll be headed there myself from Nov. 4 -6, I read a session is 2500, question do they charge the room or is it exchanged with dominican peso.

Travis McGee
10-14-20, 18:42
I read a session is 2500, question do they charge the room or is it exchanged with dominican peso.You pay the chicas in cash--DoP. The only things that can be charged to your room are food and drink. Be aware, too, that BBs charges a hefty fee if you pay for your room with a credit card and also does not give a very good exchange rate. The usual drill is to stop at Jenny's Supermarket in Costambar and exchange dollars for DoP there, then pay BBs in cash.

Infamousss
10-15-20, 01:54
Hey,

Anyone know if there's Hennessy white at the airports or local liquor store.

Nite_Runner
10-15-20, 21:21
Just returned from a week at BBs. While this was my first trip, I heard from many of the regulars (on station) that almost everything is back to normal. The biggest hassle I had was from the AA desk agent who tried to tell me that DR was not allowing PAX sans a recent PCL test. I showed the agent a copy of the latest country travel bulletin from the gov site and of course, she stated that it meant nothing as they could only rely on the guidance issued by AA. BL. She stated that I had to proceed at my own risk (no shit) and that I could be subject to being returned. Needless to say, there was no issue with customs or immigration upon landing at STI.

While I spent most of my time at BBs, I did go to the beach almost every day and ventured into town only a few times. Nothing overly radical as I was just looking to relax. BB's featured two shifts of 10-12 ladies each, plenty of talent for most everyone present. All were very pleasant, some had a bit of drama, but nothing to get wound up about. Jenny's is open and busy as hell. I did do some booze pricing as the prices at Jenny's (booze) are the same as 2-3 places in town.

Headed back in Dec, let me know if anyone wants to join.

I'll be headed there myself from Nov. 4 -6, I read a session is 2500, question do they charge the room or is it exchanged with dominican peso.

While the prices are set (contracted), all financial transactions are between you and the ladies. The hotel has nothing to do with it.

Nite_Runner
10-15-20, 21:28
You pay the chicas in cash--DoP. The only things that can be charged to your room are food and drink. Be aware, too, that BBs charges a hefty fee if you pay for your room with a credit card and also does not give a very good exchange rate. The usual drill is to stop at Jenny's Supermarket in Costambar and exchange dollars for DoP there, then pay BBs in cash."Hefty" is an understatement as BBs charges 20% for all CC transactions. Further, Jenny's ATM charges $5 for each w / the with a max of 10,000 DP. It's cheaper to either use the ATMs in town or use the cambio in the back of Jenny's.

BigTimeFun
10-16-20, 07:39
Fellas,

Just returned from a week at BBs. While this was my first trip, I heard from MANY of the regulars (on station) that almost everything is back to normal. The biggest hassle I had was from the AA desk agent who tried to tell me that DR was not allowing PAX sans a recent PCL test. I showed the agent a copy of the latest country travel bulletin from the gov site and of course, she stated that it meant nothing as they could only rely on the guidance issued by AA. BL. She stated that I had to proceed at my own risk (no shit) and that I could be subject to being returned. Needless to say, there was NO issue with customs or immigration upon landing at STI.

While I spent most of my time at BBs, I did go to the beach almost every day and ventured into town only a few times. Nothing overly radical as I was just looking to relax. BB's featured two shifts of 10-12 ladies each, plenty of talent for most everyone present. All were very pleasant, some had a bit of drama, but nothing to get wound up about. Jenny's is open and busy as hell. I did do some booze pricing as the prices at Jenny's (booze) are the same as 2-3 places in town.

Headed back in Dec, let me know if anyone wants to join in.

N_R.Night Runner. Thanks for the info. I may stop there on my way to Sosua in a couple of weeks. What are the asking prices, time limits and do they negotiate?. I heard the prices were fixed. Also any suggestion on what accommodations (rooms) to book. Any other info you might think is relevant in my preparation to go would be greatly appreciated.

Husker Dude
10-16-20, 13:30
Night Runner. Thanks for the info. I may stop there on my way to Sosua in a couple of weeks. What are the asking prices, time limits and do they negotiate?. I heard the prices were fixed. Also any suggestion on what accommodations (rooms) to book. Any other info you might think is relevant in my preparation to go would be greatly appreciated.Chica prices are fixed 2500 p /1-2 hours, 1 pop. Book rooms through the blackboards website. I like the deluxe single rooms on the be floor. (second floor rooms opposite side of pool / restaurant).

George03
10-16-20, 17:12
Night Runner. Thanks for the info. I may stop there on my way to Sosua in a couple of weeks. What are the asking prices, time limits and do they negotiate?. I heard the prices were fixed. Also any suggestion on what accommodations (rooms) to book. Any other info you might think is relevant in my preparation to go would be greatly appreciated.There is a Blackbeard's forum in the DR section. I would be good if updated posts where there. There is much info Pre Covid, post re-opening, a little info starting to trickle in.

GrownMan1
10-16-20, 21:34
Hey,

Anyone know if there's Hennessy white at the airports or local liquor store.You usually Find it in the airports. Some larger local stores have it. I think the average price is around $85 or 5000 pesos. Damn shame. I remember when it was $24 in the Bahamas nine years ago.

Questner
10-17-20, 01:28
Hey,

Anyone know if there's Hennessy white at the airports or local liquor store.Maybe. Example: Hennessy VS 750 ML is RD $2,550 at La Sirena supermarket. https://sirena.do/products/search/hennessy.

OldKool
10-17-20, 02:52
I am not a drinker but the discounts come in to play when you buy at least two bottles.


Maybe. Example: Hennessy VS 750 ML is RD $2,550 at La Sirena supermarket. https://sirena.do/products/search/hennessy.

OldKool
10-17-20, 03:02
I am not a drinker but the discounts come in to play when you buy at least two bottles.


Maybe. Example: Hennessy VS 750 ML is RD $2,550 at La Sirena supermarket. https://sirena.do/products/search/hennessy.

Mr Enternational
10-17-20, 03:03
I am not a drinker but the discounts come in to play when you buy at least two bottles.There are no discounts. Check the price at the grocery store then check the price at the duty free. In some cases you will pay double at the duty free.

RacShack
10-17-20, 03:55
There are no discounts. Check the price at the grocery store then check the price at the duty free. In some cases you will pay double at the duty free.I've never seen any value at duty free, I think they make their cigarettes a bit cheaper and one or two in your face bottles cheaper, I find most stuff to be more expensive for sure! Used to by my mom and girls perfume and carry it around to come home and find it cheaper, one other (last time ever) was drinking and brought a watch, look up watch at home on my couch way cheaper on internet!

Questner
10-18-20, 00:40
There are no discounts. Check the price at the grocery store then check the price at the duty free. In some cases you will pay double at the duty free.Buyer beware as always; I often buy Atlantico Rum on the way back, which is slightly cheaper at the airport, and I don't need to pack it into the checked luggage.

Mr Enternational
10-18-20, 02:15
I've never seen any value at duty free, I think they make their cigarettes a bit cheaper and one or two in your face bottles cheaper, I find most stuff to be more expensive for sure! Used to by my mom and girls perfume and carry it around to come home and find it cheaper, one other (last time ever) was drinking and brought a watch, look up watch at home on my couch way cheaper on internet!You just have to research and know your shit. I was about to buy something on Amazon yesterday. Before I clicked to buy it I said let me scroll down and look at a few reviews first. One review said it was 1/3 the price at the grocery store. I did a google search and looked on the Walmart site and they were right as rain. So I am taking my ass to Walmart to buy it. They condition you to assume Amazon will be cheaper when evidently it is not always.

EddieLima
10-18-20, 16:42
I know what your saying Mr. E. but as an Amazon Prime member who lives in NYC, a lot of times it is the convenience of not having to get dressed, get in my car, get gas, crazy traffic, look for parking, people in the stores looking for confrontations, long checkout line, lady in front of me with 10 coupons or can't / doesn't know how to self checkout, go back to parking spot, car broken into, back in traffic and finally home and have a part missing-AARRHHH! And, how often do we just get that one item? You're going to blow more money out there. Yeah, I will GLADLY pay the 3 or 4 extra bucks with free shipping and in 2 days its right outside my door.


You just have to research and know your shit. I was about to buy something on Amazon yesterday. Before I clicked to buy it I said let me scroll down and look at a few reviews first. One review said it was 1/3 the price at the grocery store. I did a google search and looked on the Walmart site and they were right as rain. So I am taking my ass to Walmart to buy it. They condition you to assume Amazon will be cheaper when evidently it is not always.

Infamousss
10-28-20, 01:26
Is there any action going on in Punta Cana?

Where o where are the ladies?

Charles Pooter
10-28-20, 15:24
Is there any action going on in Punta Cana?

Where o where are the ladies?I suggest you delete this message here and post it in the Punta Cana section.

Mr Enternational
11-02-20, 23:25
Anyone know if there's Hennessy white at the airports or local liquor store.Saw this in the grocery store today. Ole. 700ml Pure White 3,705 pesos. 750ml Hennessy VS 2,719 pesos.

Darelax
11-06-20, 12:29
Hi guys!

Where does one get vaccinated for the flu near Puerto Plata? Salud Publica in Puerto Plata?

Thanks!

Manny51
11-16-20, 20:04
Hi guys!

Anyone here know whether FOD/Oasis is still open and what their status is in terms of quality? I am thinking of vacationing in the area again, but I would like to try something new and make it a golf trip at Playa Dorada. I think I remember FOD being just across the street.

The last post on that subpage was a year ago, and obviously, the world has changed a lot since then.

Thanks in advance!

Cbear13
12-07-20, 17:34
Driving back the other night. Got caught out about 2 hours past curfew. Cop asked me to help him with money so he can get dinner. Gave him 2000 pesos and went on my way.

Xpartan
12-11-20, 06:01
Driving back the other night. Got caught out about 2 hours past curfew. Cop asked me to help him with money so he can get dinner. Gave him 2000 pesos and went on my way.Is it your generosity or did he have the audacity to ask for that much? Hope he chocked on it if so.

Mr Enternational
12-11-20, 06:35
Driving back the other night. Got caught out about 2 hours past curfew. Cop asked me to help him with money so he can get dinner. Gave him 2000 pesos and went on my way.LOL. When are you guys going to learn? I also got caught out the other night. They asked for my permission slip. I gave them my Thai drivers license. They looked at it for a minute and started saying something to each other about the colonel, then said go ahead and moved the cone or whatever out of my way.

2000 pesos is about what I spent on dinner at one of the finest restaurants in Santo Domingo that same night. Not a bad take for a guy that makes 8,000 pesos in one month.

Rick1654
09-07-21, 11:33
Greeting guys!

Headed to Puerto Plata in October with a buddy of mine. Staying at an all inclusive but planning on taking a trip to Blackbeard's as a walk-in. I would like to explore Sousa but my buddy is very weary and has major safety concerns. Any tip or recommendations or places where you can just walk up and find some pretty chicas like Blackbeard's?

Xpartan
09-07-21, 21:29
Greeting guys!

Headed to Puerto Plata in October with a buddy of mine. Staying at an all inclusive but planning on taking a trip to Blackbeard's as a walk-in. I would like to explore Sousa but my buddy is very weary and has major safety concerns. Any tip or recommendations or places where you can just walk up and find some pretty chicas like Blackbeard's?Have you heard about the Field of Dreams? It's right next to Playa Dorada if that's where you're staying. I personally hate the place, but my last experience was years ago.

Mr Enternational
09-07-21, 21:41
I would like to explore Sousa but my buddy is very weary and has major safety concerns.So go check out Sosua without his ass. I talk a lot of shit about the chicks that are in Sosua, but there is nothing unsafe about the place itself.

John Clayton
09-07-21, 23:58
...but my buddy is very weary and has ...Weary or 'wary'?

OldKool
09-08-21, 03:56
You guys need training wheels. Sosua is one of the safest places I ever been in. Tourisism is its life blood and is custom made to entertain tourist. Stick to blackbeards.


Greeting guys!

Headed to Puerto Plata in October with a buddy of mine. Staying at an all inclusive but planning on taking a trip to Blackbeard's as a walk-in. I would like to explore Sousa but my buddy is very weary and has major safety concerns. Any tip or recommendations or places where you can just walk up and find some pretty chicas like Blackbeard's?

Charles Pooter
09-08-21, 14:34
Have you heard about the Field of Dreams? It's right next to Playa Dorada if that's where you're staying. I personally hate the place, but my last experience was years ago.It has been called Oasis Adult Resort for many years now. If money is no object your weary/wary friend might like it. Safe and convenient for Playa Dorada but silly prices. Bang opposite the service entrance to Playa Dorada. Your friend might want to tip a security guard to see him across the main road.

Sosua is 100% safe to walk around town and enjoy the beach. But someone not streetwise might have trouble with a bad chica. Most are OK.

Wakzak33
09-22-21, 04:12
Hello my friends!

I have been slowly submerging myself into the forums here, and am finally preparing to book my first ever trip to DR, as well as of this nature, with a good friend of mine. But still having difficulty figuring out what an optimal plan is for us.

Originally our most favorable option was to set ourselves up with one of the pre-arranged trips that we found (prior to finding this forum) such as Playboy Vacations, DrNights, Blue Paradise, etc.

I've read through lots of threads and have seen drastically different responses and answers in regards to these types of places, which I believe is due to the higher costs and con-like people running them. What makes me feel most comfortable about these is that things are pre-arranged, no negotiating or walking around, we have a nice private home, and just loaded up with some staff and "friends" for a few nights. I'd love to do this as it's definitely easiest for our first trip down.

The idea of traveling to DR, driving to a home, and not having to think about anything and just relax and enjoy for a few nights sounds incredible. Regardless of the price difference IMO. So if this is an option and any reputable people provide these services, please by all means, let me know!

If this is not an option, we were thinking of doing a BB trip. I've read lots of good things, and it definitely seems pretty simple and fun! I'm just not sure if we should stay there for a few nights, or get a local house nearby and just travel in and out when needed.

Even after all of my reading, I'm still having trouble figuring out what to do! We love to go out and party, and are very good at meeting people. But we're far from professionals in the mongering space and were hoping to pay a premium for an upscale pre-arranged experience *if possible*.

Would love any insight here, and apologies for the relatively long write-up. Just wanted to convey what we're looking for!

Thanks in advance to anyone who has any advice.

Cheers!

Tempoecorto
09-29-21, 01:14
Hello my friends! Thanks in advance to anyone who has any advice.Have you ever been anywhere outside your country? Do you speak any language other than your own, ideally Spanish? If the answer is "No", I strongly would recommend "Blackbeard". It has been tried by many (not my kind of place but I have been to an afternoon party) and all have positive comments as you might have read here.

I cannot speak of "fancy" places but what little I know is that they try to showcase women, white women, brought from elsewhere and if you have never been abroad, I would not recommend them. Once you have had your "toe in the water" you can try out new things / places with more confidence. Also, if you have time, as in several weeks, you can first try BB out and then explore beyond. By that time, you would know the lay of the land plus you would meet people (including at BB) who could point you at the right direction.

OldKool
10-02-21, 20:30
Black Beards is ok but -you only have about 14 girls of which 4 are hot the rest are average. Plus the hot girls are booked so you have to wait your turn or settle for the not so hot girls. In Sosua there are a couple hundred grls chasing you. You can walk almost everywhere from beaches to clubs. Many decent places to eat and fellowship with scores of like minded guys. For me it is a no brainrer.


Have you ever been anywhere outside your country? Do you speak any language other than your own, ideally Spanish? If the answer is "No", I strongly would recommend "Blackbeard". It has been tried by many (not my kind of place but I have been to an afternoon party) and all have positive comments as you might have read here.

I cannot speak of "fancy" places but what little I know is that they try to showcase women, white women, brought from elsewhere and if you have never been abroad, I would not recommend them. Once you have had your "toe in the water" you can try out new things / places with more confidence. Also, if you have time, as in several weeks, you can first try BB out and then explore beyond. By that time, you would know the lay of the land plus you would meet people (including at BB) who could point you at the right direction.

Tacoma101
11-14-21, 16:27
Well gentlemen, I started planning for this trip in April. I decide to go with a Medellin approach and started building a large FB group of girls. This would be my first extended trip in the town of Puerto Plata and I went back about 5 years on the boards to get a good feel on the city. Two things to note, I'm pretty well versed in the DR and my Spanish is above average. I stayed in an apartment near La Sirena Supermarket.

The chicas!

First and foremost, my FB plan worked out great. It just took awhile to build my roster. I always started by telling the chicas to not ask me for money before meeting. Any that did were removed from the list of girls I wanted to meet. Any that made the cut were moved over to WhatsApp ASAP. The women get lost on FB messenger because the direct messages get mixed in with the hundreds of comments they receive from the daily stories they post. #eyeroll.

The women / girls I met were a pretty big variety. Semi pros, civilians, a married chica, and some younger students. I would always start by asking if they are going to school or working. I'll also ask if they have kids. Usually by that alone you'll determine what kinda chica you're dealing with. School or work generally means you'll have to plan on two dates before any action. Not always, but that seemed to be the norm.

I would leave it open for them as to what they wanted to do with our time: food, swim at the pool, or come over and have some drinks and watch a movie / music. This was another way to determine what kinda chica you're dealing with. 90% were fine with coming over and "drinking / listening to music. ".

I often triple booked dates as the women are pretty flakey, forgetful, or just non responsive when you need an answer. Don't even think about booking a date more than one day in advance. Pea brains don't operate that way. Most chicas would reach out in the morning to see what I had going on for the day.

The pros that I chatted with on messenger would always talk money. I immediately disqualified them.

The girls love to make last minute changes before a date. "I need to bring my friend, sister, neighbor, brother. " I would just cancel the date when they would pull that crap last minute. They also love to leave shit behind. No way it's unintentional. Every single one did it. Clothes, toothbrush, hair stuff, or watches.

The cell phone addicted chicas. : I would call them out with this crappy behavior and if they didn't adjust, date over. No patience.

Another red flag is any chica that prefers to go to dinner and complains about her meal or has to make 26 changes to the order. She is bound to be a problem. Eject!

FB chicas that I met that I wouldn't waste my time on again:

Rosanna Celestino-stalker.

Lily Gonzalez-boring / phone addict.

Collado Yarlenis Michelle-boring / difficult.

Vianelly Nicole Quiroz-cat fish.

Hatianas were, as mentioned before, so much easier to deal with. Much better service than the Dominicans. I took my top draft pick to Sosua one night to watch the UFC fights. I wasnt impressed with the quality there at all.

The chicas love to post pictures and videos of you or your apartment on FB. This could definitely cause drama as your mutual FB connections will see this and ask about it. Remember, you're operating in a pretty small circle if you go the FB route.

The underage FB chicas are definitely out there. Usually they are lurking behind someone else's profile. They will be the ones without a cedula and will ask if you're in a hotel or apartment. Warning flags for sure. Never trust a chicas name or age on her FB profile.

Not one of my chicas that I spent time with drank a lot or got drunk. Not in their culture I guess. Santo Domingo chicas can really throw them back.

None of my chicas asked for money but I always gave $60 and sometimes a small gift. Those that spent the night without even asking, got a bit more. Almost all the chicas paid their own way to my place. I would try to Uber them home but some were so far out in the sticks that it was pretty much impossible. Oh and be sure to ask if they will have cell service while they are traveling to you. Makes things a helluva lot easier if they do.

And as always, chicas will run as late as you'll let them. I noticed once I would cancel, they would be right on time on the next opportunity they got. Set expectations.

Nightlife.

I hit a lot of the nightlife spots. All were pretty good but the entire city is pretty quiet Monday-Thursday. Most places closed at midnight.

My one big hang up in the DR is that most people go out in groups and do not interact with others. You really have to have your Spanish game to go up to a group of people that all know each other and shoot your shot.

Sunday is the night to be on the Malecon. It's packed, especially around Miami / Atlanta nights bar.

Places I enjoyed the most.

Latin bar. -Definitely some WGs in here. Thursday night was stripper show night. That was cool to watch.

Miami disco and bar / Atlanta lights Malecon-Sunday!

Chalos Corner-Bar. Locals! Cool!

Golden Roof Bar-Date spot. Tue is Karaoke.

Food. No shortage of good food on the cheap or on the "high end".

Favorite spots.

Ocean world terrace-restaurant.

Skina restaurante.

Casita Azul-Fancy.

Las Palmas-Italian.

La Tarappa-Italian.

La Carihuela-Beach spot.

La Locanda Pop.

Kaffe.

La Catalina Ranch. A bit out there but an amazing spot. High end.

General notes on Puerto Plata.

-Moto taxis make it easy to get around 50/100/150 pesos based on distance. Always ask in advance. Anyone that doesn't give you a direct answer is a scammer and you walk away. Did that a few times. No patience.

Puerto Plata is a very well lit city. Walked a ton, even late at night, and never felt unsafe. Only felt bad by alerting so many barking dogs as I walked home.

-Uber is 75% pain in the A in Puerto Plata. The drivers want to negotiate fares quite often. Definitely against Uber policy but so many do it. I doubled the tip on any driver that didn't give me grief by asking me to pay more before arriving. Another option is you just ignore their messages when they start writing to you, but they may never show up. The best Uber driver / taxi guy I found was Leivy Lopez (PM for info). His rates were the best and I used him regularly by the end of my trip.

-Montellano is the hornets nest of hot Hatianas that know how to give great service. I plan to explore it in the future.

I stayed in a super modern apartment near La Sirena. No security, just cameras, so you better be good at vetting your chicas. PM me for the air be&be details.

Took my Covid antigen test 1 day before departing. Went to Referencia Laboratorio. Wow they are good. 1750 pesos. Super fast, 10 minutes in and out on a Friday. And she was more gentle then the gringo hater in Medellin LOL.

Any board members living in PP? Would love to meet you. Charles Pooter!

Salud.

Taco.

IHeartDan
11-21-21, 22:58
Well gentlemen, I started planning for this trip in April. I decide to go with a Medellin approach and started building a large FB group of girls. This would be my first extended trip in the town of Puerto Plata and I went back about 5 years on the boards to get a good feel on the city. Two things to note, I'm pretty well versed in the DR and my Spanish is above average. I stayed in an apartment near La Sirena Supermarket.

The chicas!

First and foremost, my FB plan worked out great. It just took awhile to build my roster. I always started by telling the chicas to not ask me for money before meeting. Any that did were removed from the list of girls I wanted to meet. Any that made the cut were moved over to WhatsApp ASAP. The women get lost on FB messenger because the direct messages get mixed in with the hundreds of comments they receive from the daily stories they post. #eyeroll.

The women / girls I met were a pretty big variety. Semi pros, civilians, a married chica, and some younger students. I would always start by asking if they are going to school or working. I'll also ask if they have kids. Usually by that alone you'll determine what kinda chica you're dealing with. School or work generally means you'll have to plan on two dates before any action. Not always, but that seemed to be the norm.

I would leave it open for them as to what they wanted to do with our time: food, swim at the pool, or come over and have some drinks and watch a movie / music..Thanks Ttown! I'm new to international hobbying, so this review was great. I'll be there Dec 15-20 at Blackbeards, (newb steps), so if anybody from our sacred board is there during that time, let's connect! Can use the help. Anthony. Islander. Bald. Lets drink!

Manizales911
11-24-21, 21:09
Which cabaña in Puerto Plata is the nicest? I'm not one to use these places very often as I have an apartment in Sosua but I have a smoking hot chica that absolutely will not step foot in Sosua and I am dying to throw it in her. Price is not important. Thanks in advance.

Oakie
11-25-21, 08:38
Which cabaa in Puerto Plata is the nicest? I'm not one to use these places very often as I have an apartment in Sosua but I have a smoking hot chica that absolutely will not step foot in Sosua and I am dying to throw it in her. Price is not important. Thanks in advance.Just a suggestion, but it might work, Mani.

Tell her you you'll take her to a nice apartahotel in Playa Chiquita, "outside of Sosua."

Hopefully she never heard of Dulce Secreta, LOL.

Rus501
11-28-21, 21:29
It's been several years since I was at Blackbeards last. Inflation has caught up. I was a visitor this time, my hotel was in the city. Two nice chicas approached me after I'd walked in and ordered a Presidente. (new price DP 220 now). They were pleasant, youngish, but everybody looks youngish to me now. Quoted me $100 for an hour including the room charge or $166 for the two of them. A little negocio brought it down to ocho mille pesos for the two. I consulted with some regular gringos at the bar who thought that was a fair price so I went for it. I needed to run up to Jenny's for some dinero at the ATM and one of them gave me a ride on her scooter. That was fun too. As we were getting the room they tried to upsell me that it was $20 more but a deal is a deal and we got the key for my 8 mille. The session was fun with both of them, an experience I haven't had for a long time. Good VFM. One more beer and a chat with some gringos at the bar before leaving and heading back to my hotel. Went both ways on a motoconcho for DP 700. That ride was almost as much fun and exciting as the session.

KrisMonger
11-30-21, 12:26
Which cabaa in Puerto Plata is the nicest? I'm not one to use these places very often as I have an apartment in Sosua but I have a smoking hot chica that absolutely will not step foot in Sosua and I am dying to throw it in her. Price is not important. Thanks in advance.Bumping up my own post earlier this year -http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=2535986#post2535986.

Venus Ejucutivo was the best among cabanas.

Manizales911
12-04-21, 19:28
Just a suggestion, but it might work, Mani.

Tell her you you'll take her to a nice apartahotel in Playa Chiquita, "outside of Sosua."

Hopefully she never heard of Dulce Secreta, LOL.Thanks for the suggestion but I want to get out of Sosua and spend a few days in my old stomping grounds of Puerto Plata, I had a house in those days in Pto Pta so I never used the cabañas there.

Manizales911
12-04-21, 19:31
Bumping up my own post earlier this year -http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=2535986#post2535986.

Venus Ejucutivo was the best among cabanas.Thanks, I will try Venus and report back.

RainerL
01-20-22, 15:54
Hi,

I am an old timer (64 yrs), my first time to Dom Rep will land in Puerto Plata end of January, will stay there in Airbnb for 7 nights. Where can I get a nice HE massage and how much it will cost me?

RainmanSahut
01-21-22, 05:24
If you get a ISG subscription, PM me and I will share some contacts for happy days & nights.

Rainman.

Mrhappydr
01-21-22, 22:06
If you get a ISG subscription, PM me and I will share some contacts for happy days & nights..I'd love to get one, but I don't do bitcoin and live in the DR where postal service is pretty much non existent. It's frustrating not to have other options.

Tacoma101
02-11-22, 16:01
Second longer term stay in the heart of Puerto Plata. 14 days. 26 dates. Only 5 I would / did repeat with. All were pleased with 3 k. None negotiated money ahead of time. Simply "I'll help you with some money after we spend time together".

Weather was terrible. Tons of rain. Unusual for this time of the year. Notes I took:

More obvious WG's on Malecon were present. The majority were around the corner of the malecon by the central area.

More energy in the city. Things are picking up.

FB was good to me again. Of the women I met, all but one were from FB. 1 from Tinder. 0 from Seeking.

Most are late so I would just cancel after 25 minutes and move on. Set standards that you don't put up with them arriving late.

FB waste of time chicas. Poor performance or not attractive or just too needy.

Arieli Acosta.

Angeline Liriano.

Redelkis Gonzales.

Jessica Batista.

Casandra Yosil.

Andry Pena.

Suly Eusebio.

For the dudes looking to avoid or dodge the single moms. Its so easy to look at pictures and see who is trying to hide the baby damage. Look for the chicas that could show their belly button but have their pants / skirt / whatever pulled up high enough to cover it. Also look at any picture where their hand is covering their stomach, even if its just a pose. Its their subconscious insecurity.

I checked out Kviar. Luxury club. Fat girl fake booty left overs from Sosua. Wow. Horrible. I was there 12 am on a Friday. 70% dudes. No cover. Just a complete sausage fest. Maybe everyone is waiting for more options to roll in at 3. Life is too short for waiting.

So many Hatianas on FB. Asking them to come over and give a nice massage is a winner on many levels.

Chicks that don't say much on text don't say much in person. Boring and a waste of time.

Miami Disco has NFL football.

Bars close whenever they want. Don't trust google or posted hours at all.

Bar breath! My lord. Either these women don't know how to floss, brush their teeth, use mouth wash or all the above. But dang, sometimes its hard to even get a pop with their funk breath. Someone start a fresh breath ad campaign, please.

Hideout Bar- Cool spot I added to my list of favorite places!

Salud.

Taco.

Mr Enternational
02-11-22, 16:15
Second longer term stay in the heart of Puerto Plata. 14 days. 26 dates.Great informative post as usual. Thanks.

LocalGuy69
02-28-22, 05:19
Second longer term stay in the heart of Puerto Plata. 14 days. 26 dates. Only 5 I would / did repeat with. All were pleased with 3 k. None negotiated money ahead of time. Simply "I'll help you with some money after we spend time together".

Weather was terrible. Tons of rain. Unusual for this time of the year. Notes I took:

More obvious WG's on Malecon were present. The majority were around the corner of the malecon by the central area.

More energy in the city. Things are picking up.

FB was good to me again. Of the women I met, all but one were from FB. 1 from Tinder. 0 from Seeking.

Most are late so I would just cancel after 25 minutes and move on. Set standards that you don't put up with them arriving late.

FB waste of time chicas. Poor performance or not attractive or just too needy.

Arieli Acosta.

Angeline Liriano.

Redelkis Gonzales.

Jessica Batista...Planning a trip down in July. Where do you find girls on fb? Or is there a good escort agency that is recommended?

Druster
02-28-22, 22:03
Anyone know if this is open / functional?

Need a quickie in Puerto Plata.

Suggestions?

Appreciate any help.

Druster
03-01-22, 16:47
I think the new name for field of dreams is Oasis Adult resort, Playa Dorada.

Q: Is it open?

If possible rates and digits would help.

Thank you.

Tacoma101
03-01-22, 18:38
Hey buddy, search up Isa La Joie (blue blouse with her head turned the other way). Should be easy. She has a ton of friends that are all visible. Just go through her list and send the friend requests. Fayboo does the rest of the work for you with suggestions each day. Taco.


Planning a trip down in July. Where do you find girls on fb? Or is there a good escort agency that is recommended?

Husker Dude
03-01-22, 18:56
I think the new name for field of dreams is Oasis Adult resort, Playa Dorada.

Q: Is it open?

If possible rates and digits would help.

Thank you.It is open as Oasis. Don't know current rates. Stopped by briefly in Jan. 7 only saw 1 guy staying there. No chicas that got my interest, lots of bigger ones there. Try searching oasis adult resort.

Chenz24
04-13-22, 20:42
I have not been at Blackbeards in about 9 years I like some info on the going rate for a chica session and and an overnight with a chica rate it would much appreciated.

George03
04-13-22, 23:54
I have not been at Blackbeards in about 9 years I like some info on the going rate for a chica session and and an overnight with a chica rate it would much appreciated.Check out the Blackbeards forum.

Husker Dude
04-14-22, 00:45
I have not been at Blackbeards in about 9 years I like some info on the going rate for a chica session and and an overnight with a chica rate it would much appreciated.Latest I have is ST 3000 p, TLN from 9 PM til AM 5000 p (2 pops), TLN 6 pm til AM 7000 p (3 pops).

Airwick73
04-22-22, 09:18
Please recommend best place please.

Dusty20
05-05-22, 21:21
First time to the are, have questions, would love some pointers.

Greetings ya'll.

First time to Dominican Republic next week. I'm posting this same thing in a few cities I plan to visit in hopes to get some advice, questions answered, etc. , some in general others about the city, so excuse if seems redundant across forums.

Background info: I'm from the USA, white guy (if that matters), I fly into Santiago, and will go to Santo Domingo also. I plan to visit one other place, maybe two. Whatever I can do with 2. 5 weeks. Don't plan to rent a car (heard they have special tags that police target for bribes, and really, don't' want to worry, be responsible for, or think about a car) but take uber instead, they seem cheap enough there, unless there's good reason not to. New to the the are but not new to international traveling, third world countries, watching my back, etc. Know how to defend myself but prefer to have no reason to and avoid trouble / trouble areas. I speak decent Spanish, getting better but definitely not fluent. I'm not a flashy person, I know I will stick out like a sore thumb but don't plan on walking around with jewelry, a visible wallet, with my phone out, etc.

Obviously this forum is about mongering, I am not above this and it's a good back up plan but I plan on meeting some civilian girls I've been chatting and tinder and some other apps are popping for me pretty well. Obviously that comes with sorting through working girls, gold diggers, girls wanting assistance, sugar daddy, scammers, etc. Nothing new. Is there a forum or website somewhat like this one more dedicated to meeting regular / civilian girls, traveling as a single guy, etc?

Is there an area (s) of town where I should particularly stay? Safer, easier to find expats / western travelers, etc?

An area (s) I definitely need to avoid?

Do I need to worry about making sure my hotel allows guests? I plan on bringing multiple (one at a time) over, I've heard some weird or conflicting things about this. I haven't had an issue in other places I've traveled, they usually just need to bring ID to leave with front desk.

Any local attractions I should check out? Good weekend getaway place I can take a chica I fancy? Obviously want to do some fun things besides pursue or entertain women.

Gracias en avance.

Aragorn
06-02-22, 21:35
Does anyone know if Sir Charles is ok? He has not posted since September of 2021. Hope he is doing OK.

Oakie
06-03-22, 15:06
Does anyone know if Sir Charles is ok? He has not posted since September of 2021. Hope he is doing OK.We wish him well, and 72 vigins in heaven, if he's moved on!

Aragorn
06-03-22, 22:01
We wish him well, and 72 vigins in heaven, if he's moved on!If he has gone to that spirit in the sky, I think he'd prefer 72 skilled and experienced freaks, not awkward virgins.

Ozzie1451
06-04-22, 12:17
Does anyone know if Sir Charles is ok? He has not posted since September of 2021. Hope he is doing OK.Sometime ago I saw him in la sirena at ouerto plata. We talked a little bit and he told me that he has health problems. He did not say much and I did not ask. This was the last time I saw him.

Aragorn
06-04-22, 19:11
Sometime ago I saw him in la sirena at ouerto plata. We talked a little bit and he told me that he has health problems. He did not say much and I did not ask. This was the last time I saw him.Where ever he is, he was a gentleman and a first rate resource. He has my best wishes.

Adventurer9
06-07-22, 22:02
Flip flops on the sand in PP Oasis is right accross the street might start there tonight see what happens. Will report as I venture.

El Moreno 92
06-08-22, 00:40
In Puerto Plata until the end of the week, then I will head down to Santo Domingo, the land of plentiful Dominicana Poon.

I rented a NICE Airbnb in town, near the main road, Av 27 de Febrero. Has a nice view and I definitely cleared it with the owner that it was okay to have company.

Instagram girl came over a couple of hours after my arrival. A rare, long haired Dominican spinner with a nice little body and little perkies. We went to La Parrillita to get some food. Brought it back to the rental. We ate good. Downed a shitload of Presidentes and I ended up in them guts. BBFS was great. CIM twice in 30 minutes. More BBFS and CIP throughout the night. I emptied my load in her mouth and p*ssy five times total. WHEW. I was relieved. She said she staying with me until I leave. No problem. I will bang her all over this Airbnb before the weekend comes.

I LOVE REPUBLICA DOMINICANA!

Aragorn
06-08-22, 14:26
Great report and a fun time! This really shows the value of doing your ground work ahead of your trip.

When you say she is rare is it because of her slender figure? I my brief time here I've noticed DR women are extra curvy. I'm sitting across from a Lisa Bonet look alike at breakfast, when she stood up, her magnificent ass went in to the next time zone.

OBTW, having Mangu de plátano with my eggs, sore of fills the role grits


In Puerto Plata until the end of the week, then I will head down to Santo Domingo, the land of plentiful Dominicana Poon.

I rented a NICE Airbnb in town, near the main road, Av 27 de Febrero. Has a nice view and I definitely cleared it with the owner that it was okay to have company.

Instagram girl came over a couple of hours after my arrival. A rare, long haired Dominican spinner with a nice little body and little perkies. We went to La Parrillita to get some food. Brought it back to the rental. We ate good. Downed a shitload of Presidentes and I ended up in them guts. BBFS was great. CIM twice in 30 minutes. More BBFS and CIP throughout the night. I emptied my load in her mouth and p*ssy five times total. WHEW. I was relieved. She said she staying with me until I leave. No problem. I will bang her all over this Airbnb before the weekend comes.

I LOVE REPUBLICA DOMINICANA!.

HKS11
06-08-22, 17:37
First time to the are, have questions, would love some pointers.

Greetings ya'll.

First time to Dominican Republic next week. I'm posting this same thing in a few cities I plan to visit in hopes to get some advice, questions answered, etc. , some in general others about the city, so excuse if seems redundant across forums.

Background info: I'm from the USA, white guy (if that matters), I fly into Santiago, and will go to Santo Domingo also. I plan to visit one other place, maybe two. Whatever I can do with 1. 5 weeks. Don't plan to rent a car (heard they have special tags that police target for bribes, and really, don't' want to worry, be responsible for, or think about a car) but take uber instead, they seem cheap enough there, unless there's good reason not to. New to the the are but not new to international traveling, third world countries, watching my back, etc. Know how to defend myself but prefer to have no reason to and avoid trouble / trouble areas. I speak decent Spanish, getting better but definitely not fluent. I'm not a flashy person, I know I will stick out like a sore thumb but don't plan on walking around with jewelry, a visible wallet, with my phone out, etc..Any advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Tempoecorto
06-08-22, 23:22
Any advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance.I had responded to that specific poster (he disappeared since then) but the response is still visible / accessible in the Santiago forum, if you would care to do some rummaging on your own.

Aragorn
06-10-22, 01:38
Using my DR yes I am, I created a new tinder account. Got multiple hits right away one that look like a hot and easy fuck was a Dominican MILF on the six side. Met her for lunch the following day made no bones about what I wanted to do with her and we went back to my place and did the beast with two backs. BBFS, BBBJ, CIP. Will try and get some pics if we meet again. Currently at a restaurant waiting for a 29-year-old that I matched with this morning. We'll see what happens.

There's a new club just of the Malecon call Puerto Plata play house. I may stop by there later tonight.

Oh by the way, my burner phone at 2017 Nexus 6 is slower than dog shit. But it's great for making calls, using WhatsApp, and the map function. Well maybe not the maps that's slow as shit too.

El Moreno 92
06-11-22, 07:42
Great report and a fun time! This really shows the value of doing your ground work ahead of your trip.

When you say she is rare is it because of her slender figure? I my brief time here I've noticed DR women are extra curvy. I'm sitting across from a Lisa Bonet look alike at breakfast, when she stood up, her magnificent ass went in to the next time zone.

OBTW, having Mangu de pltano with my eggs, sore of fills the role grits

.Exactly. She has a slim frame, slimmer than the normal DR chica, but has a nice set of tetas on her. I love my Filipina spinners (going there at years end) and her body is similar.

Tacoma101
06-13-22, 18:57
How was the playhouse in the evening? I stopped by for a few beers in the late afternoon and two chicas were average at best.


Using my DR yes I am, I created a new tinder account. Got multiple hits right away one that look like a hot and easy fuck was a Dominican MILF on the six side. Met her for lunch the following day made no bones about what I wanted to do with her and we went back to my place and did the beast with two backs. BBFS, BBBJ, CIP. Will try and get some pics if we meet again. Currently at a restaurant waiting for a 29-year-old that I matched with this morning. We'll see what happens.

There's a new club just of the Malecon call Puerto Plata play house. I may stop by there later tonight.

Oh by the way, my burner phone at 2017 Nexus 6 is slower than dog shit. But it's great for making calls, using WhatsApp, and the map function. Well maybe not the maps that's slow as shit too.

Aragorn
06-15-22, 14:54
Walked up around 11:00 pm saw one gorgeous chica walking out to a waiting vehicle. Look inside and it was just two guys. Turned on my heel and left.


How was the playhouse in the evening? I stopped by for a few beers in the late afternoon and two chicas were average at best..