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X-man
06-09-02, 00:21
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR SOME STORIES ABOUT HEDONISM SINCE I WILL BE GOING THERE NEXT YEAR

Culebra
11-01-02, 03:25
anyone have any experience or advice on Ocho Rios?

RCCruise
11-03-02, 00:47
Hey Culebra, are you taking the 7 day Royal Caribbian Cruise?

Culebra
11-04-02, 17:16
No, but I'll only be in town for a day...

Hoping to find out what's available in Ocho Rios, so far doesn't look like much...

Riptide
07-16-03, 22:23
I am planning a trip to Ocho Rios for August 6th staying at the Marriott Renaissance. Any info available as far as SW, Escorts in the area would be appreciated.

ChiMan II
01-31-04, 22:30
Hey team,

I want to plan a trip to Jamaica. What is the best area for working girls? What is the average price? I have been to Thailand and Mexico and would love too trade some info. Please PM me. Any info helps!

Thank you

WU Warrior
02-04-04, 18:17
CHI-Man,

Check out the photo section of Jamaica on the site and there are some links to sites that will provide you with the necessary info. Also, go to any niteclub in the tourist areas and there will be some action, especially as it gets late.

Snake27
06-30-04, 03:29
I'd warn that I haven't actually been to Jamaica yet, but I'm going in August. I found a really cheap ticket, and based on research it looks like a reasonable gamble. I thought I'd share what I found out so far about general impressions and reasons for going. After my trip I'll report specifics.

MoBay and Negril are the places to go for a good time, WSG-style. Kingston is a bit dangerous with no obvious advantage, and the rest of the country is a backwater (Ochos Rios is a dim possible third option). In MoBay you can get an inexpensive hotel near the beach on Gloucester or Kent Avenues (Hip Strip). Avoid the all-inclusive resorts, they seem to be geared towards high-end tourists and families, not WSGers. Same for Negril. I read that the majority tourist experience is to stay safely tucked away in walled-in protective enclaves removed from the citizenry and the action. How boring. I want to mingle with the people.

Reasons potentially not to go: a) Prostitution is illegal hence unregulated (as opposed to Dominican Republic where you can find health-checked girls, but admit I haven't been there either). b) Infamy about hustlers, touts, surly/rude service. Like I said, I'll know for myself after I go, but this point is emphasized by all the guidebooks; the grim social history of Jamaica might explain it. and c) About 2/3 of reports in WSG and related sites are negative.

Reasons I am going: a) Very cheap ticket was found, b) English spoken, c) Girls of rather pure African descent (if you like them), d) Can probably relax/enjoy a few days on the beach even if I did't find a girl (my opinion, no need to flame). e) I knew a few Jamaican girls 10+ years ago. They were so hot (related to point #c).

Snake27
12-17-05, 22:35
After being blown off course by hurricanes last year, I finally made it to this tropical paradise in early Dec 05. One hint: avoid hurricane season.

Jamaica is not really a sex vacation destination, it mostly has tourist couples or families who stay at resorts. I did see quite a few single white women getting their groove back with Jamaican men (gigolos), something I've seen very little in other countries. Apparently, Jamaican men have a certain reputation (Big Bamboo, Jamaican Steel and all that). But they only cater to women (not that I cared), as Jamaica is very homophobic.

As for Jamaican women, let's be blunt about it, Jamaica is a great place if you like black Jamaican women. If you don't like them, or if you want a variety, then you should go elsewhere.

Crime is not a problem because tourists are highly valued and well protected. However, the Jamaicans will hustle you with great skill, trying to get you to buy anything. Just a small example: I was in a bar (Roots Bamboo) swaying to the music and having a great time when a Jamaican guy comes up to me and speaks in a friendly way. He puts a multi-color string on my wrist and explains the colors, then compliments me on my comprehension, etc. Then he asks me to buy him a beer. I said "sure" and head to the bar, but he says "No, you can just give me the money for the beer." I should have known better, but I gave him J200 (about 3 USD) which was more than enough for a beer, and he says "No, a beer costs J500." At this point I realized that the cost of that string was J200, and I promptly left my "friend".

In spite of scam artists and persistent touts, Jamaica is a wonderful place to visit. Fantastic beaches, great natural beauty, delicious food, gorgeous women (in my opinion). But Jamaica might be more of a drug destination than a sex destination (however, beware that drugs are illegal). I was offered drugs far more often than women (FWIW, I don't do drugs).

As for other countries, a good travel book is the one by Lonely Planet. It does not hide the seamy side, though it certainly does not promote it either. Prostitution, strip bars, and other "bad" things are explained matter-of-factly, while other travel guides tend to ignore them.

Naked Gunz
12-26-05, 09:33
Considering a Jamaican New Year (never been there). I'm a vet monger but, I want some opinions. I've read the reports (aside from the flame wars), but it seems this is not really the spot since theres only 3 reports for the last year! Overall is MoBay better than Negril? I've contacted a few local ladies, but I don't want to meet up with some chick who will hold out in the hope of me being (the one) and she should hold out for respect. Good clubs for New Year or should I just try my rudimentary Spanish out in the DR..( rookie there too). I'm Black American if this helps me there. Any additional info is helpful..

MrC

PogoStick
12-28-05, 02:18
Considering a Jamaican New Year (never been there). I'm a vet monger but, I want some opinions. I've read the reports (aside from the flame wars), but it seems this is not really the spot since theres only 3 reports for the last year! Overall is MoBay better than Negril? I've contacted a few local ladies, but I don't want to meet up with some chick who will hold out in the hope of me being (the one) and she should hold out for respect. Good clubs for New Year or should I just try my rudimentary Spanish out in the DR..( rookie there too). I'm Black American if this helps me there. Any additional info is helpful..

MrCJamaica is one of my favorite places, but it is not a major mongering destination. Prices are not cheap and the selection is not always the best.

Being a black American won't matter. To a Jamaican, you are just an American and therefore unimaginably wealthy and they will try to talk you out of your bux just like they do to all Americans. But not to worry, the street hustlers are also the ones that keep the streets safe for us. (crime scares away ALL customers of ANY business.

Mobay probably has the best scene for SWs. About 9PM along the hip-strip (Glouster Ave) there is an average of 10-15 SWs usually patroling between Drs Cave Beach and Margeritaville. The are usually loud, pushy and aggressive. Often biggie sized and can be assumed to have several STDs. Be sure to wrap the rascal.

You may want to consider Negril. The P4P scene is a little mellower, but still there. However, the first 3 weeks of January are "lifestyle" weeks at Hedo. The entire resort is booked by hardcore swingers. It is nearly impossible to get a room there during that time and it will be pricey if you can get one. Instead, stay next door at Point Village. A one bedroom condo there will cost you around $100-125 a nite. You can get an evening pass to Hedo for $80 that includes dinner and top shelf booze. (might be a thought for New Years Eve) You also might be able to slip over to Hedo via the beach. I have done that a few times. A franklin to each of the security guards at either side of the property line should get you free passage for your entire stay. The line is right at the nude hot tub where all the action is. There is also a swim up bar and grill right there (don't try to pay as it is an all inclusive resort)

If you cannot get some serious wild action at Hedo during those weeks then it's time to hang up your equipment.

Go easy on the weed for the first day or two until you know how you will react to it, it is POWERFUL stuff and takes getting used to, especially if you get the really good stuff. Talk to any of the beach guys in Negril. On the hip-strip ask for Mr. Cool. He hangs beneath the spiral stairs at the condo across from the beach club and has the good herb.

Pogo

Rosy Pup
01-26-06, 04:12
Mo Bay is not better but there are probabaly a greater number and variety of women there. And you can find some real models there.

Most of the women can get really hot but it seems that what is called the west end of Negril, the women there seem to get hot beyond belief. They really fire up.

It's fantastic in Jamaica if you know how to do it and get around. i went to the DR once and I never plan to go back. It has an old tired feeling to me there compared to the excitement and energy of Jamaica. You just have to know how to get what you want but once you do, the pool of women is virtually limitless.

Artisttyp
02-03-06, 23:14
I was in jamaica (negril) about a month ago and now my doctors tell me I might have picked up some kind of a bug/virus there.This is my fourth time to negril and I have always eaten in little places much to my satisfaction.I think all inclusive deals are lame and they dont help the local com***ity.I stick to the same places I've always eaten...bottom line I've had all kinds of blood tests done etc. and everything comes up fine but my head has been spinning for over two weeks with mild cramps and nausea.It feels like I'm stoned without being stoned.Has anyone had this from jamaica? Maybe it's the food water....the only other thing I could think of is swimming in stagnant water on 7mile beach for some reason it did seem a little dirty to me and I noticed alot of oil from jet skis etc.Thank you for any help.

Jam21
02-05-06, 18:16
Did you got checked about the dengue fiever? This fiever exist in Jamaica. And it's look your your symtoms

Rosy Pup
02-06-06, 04:24
Your body gones into a healing there. Everything is very healthy about the place so your body is going into some type of detox.

Along the same likes though, from mosquito bites, when I got back home, the bites broke into boils.

My body was getting rid of poison although I was pracitically incompassitated.

The sex there only provides alot of pleasure and it helps youi get your grove back.

Shooter1
05-31-06, 17:55
Hi guys,

I will be going to Mobay in August and have been reading all the feedback here, which by the way is very helpful. I have been to the DR,CR and just got back from Cartagena, but would like some dark Jamaican spice. I have been researching 3 hotels: Wexford,Glouchestershire and the Doctors Cave Beach resort. Number 1 , I am looking for the most girl friendly , nice beach access, more towards the monger than family,( no rugrats around) Good food and a nice bar a plus but also which is the most centrally located for mongering. I was leaning toward the Wexford from most of the posts here , but nobody has mentioned the Cave beach resort. It seems that no hotel is truly girl friendly and sounds like you just gotta grease the security. Is this the modus operandi all around the island?

Husky Babalin
06-02-06, 15:54
Doctors Cave has recently renovated. The 3 Hotels you mention probably should be listed in quality as Glouchester, DR Cave and then Wexford. They are all pretty close in quality. Breakfast at all 3 would be good! The Pelican is a good place to get a good meal. The Strip Club behind Brewary is always FUN late at nite, Margueritaville offers Pros and Freelancers as well as drunken students. Pier 1 has a good choice of locals . The best Massage in MoBay is up at Stacys,(around 40us for Sensual Massage) Good selection on 18-24 yos, you can PM for phone# and web-site, they will also send an escort if you like.

I also know a couple sweet 19yos that do massage on their own if you are interested.

Dave Carrera
11-11-06, 00:00
Those sweet 19 years olds sound great. Do they do more than massage? Any other info on them would be very appreciated!

Dave

Billy Bob
11-28-06, 22:40
Is that they want as much of your money as they can get in any given situation.

Yours is to give them as little as possible.

For example, the Wexford charges $15.00 if the lady stays beyond 11:00PM. That is, unless you know how to avoid that charge.

Check this thread for Ford on the subject.

Jake Monger
01-23-07, 18:40
I have been to Jamaica a couple of years ago and might be going back later this year. Hopefully there will be some more reports on the status quo b4 I go. In the meantime, if any of you guys there are going to travel to the states and go to Las Vegas, I would be happy to share some info with you about the best places to go, and the best WG for the money.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Greybeard
01-24-07, 18:13
Attempt to PM you was met with message that was not possible. Therefore, please provide information on Stacey's massage web site and other information you deem pertinent for a one day cruise stop in February.

Thanks,
Greybeard

Jake Monger
01-26-07, 20:15
Actually, the last time I was there, I stayed in DR Cave hotel for a couple of days. The hotel itself does not have AC from what I remember, but is very open and breezy and gets a lot of local and International people staying there. The individual rooms have AC in the windows, and most have doors leading to balconies. The staff has nightly limbo contests around the pool, and service was very friendly, although do not expect to be waited on hand and foot. Since I was there with my GF at the time, I am not aware of thier policies on guests, but it is a open lobby that seems like it would be very easy to bring someone inside, because the bar is open to the public and you do not need to wear a wrist band like at other Western resorts.

Hope this helps.

Champ Chump
02-16-07, 15:35
Heading out to Ochii in may and would like to know where to look for action. I will be with the ball and chain but can manage to get a way for a while during the day.

Thanks in advance.

CC out

PogoStick
02-17-07, 02:34
Heading out to Ochii in may and would like to know where to look for action. I will be with the ball and chain but can manage to get a way for a while during the day.

Thanks in advance.

CC out
There isn't lot of daytime action in Ochi but sometimes you may be approached on the street. Try the craft market and also the road toward the entrances to Rooms and the Sunset Grande.

There is the Shades nightclub, but I don't know if they are open during the day. Ask a taxi driver, they will know and can take you.

There is also Club Gemini. I haven't been there and don't know anything about it but I think I remember seeing something about them being open during the day. From Main Street go through Soni Plaza (across from the craft market) When you exit, follow the street to your left, cross a small stream and it should be on your left, upstairs near the back of a building.

Actually, your best bet is probably a taxi driver. They all know where to go or have a girl available on short notice. Just be sure that any taxi you get into has red license plates starting with PP...they are they ones legal for tourists and are insured.

Have fun!
pogo

Husky Babalin
02-17-07, 18:32
Shades is where its at ! Not open during day, but Massage is available on premises during the day. Also 10m out of town is Enchanted Villa (975-7862) with at least 10 18-24 yos available for massage and extras.

Champ Chump
03-18-07, 18:31
I think someone said something about AFF, has anyone had luck this route?

Thanks in advance.

Champ Chump
03-21-07, 07:01
Adult Friend Finder

Alan
03-22-07, 15:10
Adult Friend Finder is a huge waste of time and money. If you want girls in Jamaica they are all about. The massage services are not bad and you have the chance to exchange information with some of the nicer girls on the island.

Just be nice to them and you get the chance to take them out when they aren't fucking 25 guys a day. There are lots and lots of opportunities in Jamaica without having to waste money on AFF.

Mipe 39
03-28-07, 18:33
Call this number 4372573. His name is Yellow. He can take you anywhere you wanna go, even hook you up with a ordinary Jamaican girl (not a hooker).

Champ Chump
03-31-07, 18:53
I'm getting ready to go to Ocho Rios JA and decided that I will help out those who find themselves in the same boat, by posting all that I find good and bad.

All trips have to start somewhere, so I started looking around here for answers to questions and received a lot of help. However, I will not be able to verify any of it until I get there the 1st week of May. From all that I have gathered, it's fairly easy to pick up sw's and regular women for sex in JA. I only wish that my wife wasn't going to be around. They usually hang around clubs or entrances to certain hotels and if all else fails, get a licensed cabbie and tel him what you want.

Off to a great start so far. Someone also mentioned AFF, so I decided to check it out. I paid for a 1 month subscription and for standard members to contact me. After sending out about 20 emails all inquiring about p4p, I received 6 serious and 4 you must be kidding responses. To my surprise, none of them had any clue what to charge or a sense of business. They all just seemed excited about going out on the town with you. Money was like a secondary issue. I didn't quite understand, it was as if I had died and gone to a land where all the p4p rules were inverted or something, kinda like the twilight zone. All I wanted was about 2 hours at the most of their time and I was willing to pay up $1., while they on the other hand wanted less but required a night on the town and sex over night. All but 1 told me what I wanted was a *****, and that i should find someone else. Go figure, a night on the town and sex all night cheaper than my 2 hour price!

Which brings us to 19y/o Shawna from AFF. After exchanging several emails, we agreed on $.7 for msog during the day and we're supposed to meet in Ochi, but after calling her on the phone I'm not so sure. She says this is her first time doing this. After calling, I have a feeling that the person I talked to isn't the person I exchanged emails with. Oh well such is life on the hunt. If we meet it will definitely be in a public place, after all I'm in a foreign country and nobody knows where I am because of what I'm doing...always play safe.

;-}~ CC out

Ford
04-01-07, 20:07
Hey Champ Chump,

Already you're off to a good start in my eyes! You've read the board, taken notes and you're committed to giving us all an honest objective report of what you find! Great! :)

Too many guys on this board "sugar-coat" things. They think that if they had a bad time on a trip, that its some sort of negative "commentary" on them personally, their selections, their choices. So they "fudge" the truth and report back with a watered down version of their trip.

Report the good and the bad, it will help all of us. I would enjoy a detailed report on Occho Rios.....I'm sorry the "ball and chain" is going to be with you:(....but I'm glad it appears that you might have had some success with AFF, maybe!

cheers...........

Champ Chump
04-07-07, 13:54
Does anybody know if they are no-tells in Ochi? Preferably one that offers short stay, and if not, just one that's "user friendly".

Thanks in advance.

CC out

Mipe 39
04-19-07, 23:34
Does anybody know if they are no-tells in Ochi? Preferably one that offers short stay, and if not, just one that's "user friendly".

Thanks in advance.

CC outMaybe a little late, but silver seas is ok.

Ford
05-21-07, 17:23
Hey Champ Chump,

Did your trip to Ocho Rios ever come off? Any remarks, comments?

Anybody that has any up-to-date info on any place on this island would be appreciated. Someone needs to "breathe some life" back into this thread.
Its on life-support. :(

Mclovin97
11-26-08, 21:35
I just moved to Jamaica from North America and am learning all of the mongering ways. Contrary to what you read, it is easy to get laid in Jamaica. You can pretty much pick up most native girls if you are not from the island and sex will be a guarantee. They are super aggressive!

Montego Bay- There is a house that you can go to which they call a massage parlour, however it is moooooore than that. I don't know what it's called but it's easy to find. The best way I can describe to find it is this: There is a huge red back lit sign for Red Stripe, and if you look at the sign no matter where you are, you will see one single house underneath it. That's where you go. They had probably about 20 grils to pick from. Nude massages with hand jobs included for only $40 and you negotiate with the girl for more. You can bang them for about a $100 all in. Well worth checking out.

Ocho Rios. Go to a place called Shades just be careful with the local dudes.

Mclovin97
11-26-08, 21:39
I would also caution to be careful with who you pick up. Some of the chicks may be ghetto chicks and you won't know it, and behind the chick there is always a guy. Watch you don't get robbed.

Mclovin97
12-18-08, 03:03
The place is called Montego Bay Ocean View Massage Centre

19 Queens Drive
876.940.7417

Vetarniec
05-25-09, 11:34
I would also caution to be careful with who you pick up. Some of the chicks may be ghetto chicks and you won't know it, and behind the chick there is always a guy. Watch you don't get robbed.Was wondering where I can take my 'girlfriend' (been talking online,webcam for months). Somewhere near Kingston, but quiet and CHEAP enough to plunder her young booty! Are the 'All inclusive' hotels worth it..or should I go for the local hotels?

Lastly, crime against tourists is it dodgy. Doesn't really bother me, I lived 10yrs off Bankhead Hwy in Atlanta, Ga. I was only white dude for miles and never had 1 problem. But I would like to be aware of the scams.

Thanks! BTW I now reside in my home Country Scotland.

Wiseborn
06-01-09, 16:17
Hey Champ Chump,

Did your trip to Ocho Rios ever come off? Any remarks, comments?

Anybody that has any up-to-date info on any place on this island would be appreciated. Someone needs to "breathe some life" back into this thread. Its on life-support.Well it's been almost a year since I've been there but there's a stroll right off of Main street in Ochi that gets poppin' after dark. I also must say that every strip club in Yard is basically a brotel not a strip club. The locals almost never tip for a dance and the girls will try to get you to fuck them in the "Daggerin' Rooms in the club.

You can also score with a local chick but they get so attached it would proboly be better to stick to p4p action.

Fun And Sun
10-21-10, 01:22
Thought that I would post this part of "Fun and Sun's Guide to Montego Bay and Negril" in the general info thread since it applies across the island.

First the bad news:

Jamaica is a very dangerous place, it has one of the highest murder rates in the world, and it is also a very violent society. Jamaicans are very big on "respect", and being "disprespected" by someone means you need to fight them, often with a weapon. There are also loads of violent gangs that engage in drug dealing and defending their territory against each other. In addition, there are many people that are desperately poor and/or have drug or alcohol problems that engage in stealing and robbery.

Now the good news:

Most of the crime and violence is confided to the the Southern/Eastern part of the island, primarily Kingston and the surrounding areas. If you come there for mongering you will be on the opposite part of the island, the Northern/Western side, pretty much as far away as you can get from Kingston and armed gangs.

Also, the Jamaican government values tourists a lot. Not because the Jamaican government cares about tourists, but because tourism is very very important to the Jamaican economy, and without the taxes that are generated from tourism the corrupt politicians would not be able to steal as much as they are able to with tourism. Robberies, assaults, and murders of tourists are very very bad publicity.

Because of this, tourists are extremely well protected by the police. The police presence might not be very visible, but if a Jamaican attacks a tourist then, to quote what a local girl told me many years ago when I was nervous about a particular character "the police will take him and they will lock him away for very very long". The police will also severely beat locals that misbehave in the tourist areas (like being very drunk, grabbing people, etc). I might be a bit harsh, but their approach to the locals would probably result in UN sanctions if the locals and police were not of the same race.

The police do not care about tourists being harassed, but you will note that the hustlers will not physically touch you except for shaking your hand, and they will not hold on to you to keep you from walking away, and they will not stand in your way if you try to walk around them. (If you tell the police that you are being harassed by a hustler on the street then this is likely to result in him being "banned" from the Hip Strip, and not being allowed to go past Margaritaville. This is the reason that so many of them stand around over by Moods these days.)

The further away you go from the touristy areas, the less this protection applies. However, if you go on a go-go tour in the country surrounding either Mo'Bay or Negril then you are safe inside the venue, as well as immediately outside it, since if something happens to you then the police will make trouble for the owner, and no one wants to make trouble for the owner since he is either a "real bad man" or benefits from the protection of a "real bad man". ("Real bad man" is patois, am not going to explain what it is since it's pretty self explanatory, but "a read bad man no need tinted windows in his car cause he no need to hide from no one".)

But:

If you disrespect a Jamaican then all bets are of, since he might have to do something violent towards you so he doesn't lose all his respect on the street. Am not talking something minor here, you need to have done something pretty bad for this to happen, like throw a beer in someone's face type of incident.

There are a lot of people that are very disturbed from too much ganja and alcohol that you need to watch out for. The police keep these people away from the tourist areas, but the further away you go then the more dangerous it is. However, you need to stray from the tourist areas a bit to have the most fun, so you need to take some risks from time to time.

Jamaican society is very violent, so keep an eye open for incidents looking like they are about to flare up and move away from there slowly. If you see a fight then don't stop and watch it, even though it is tempting, keep moving and if you have to watch then stand quite a distance away. (If you do see a fight you will notice that the local people will stop and watch it, but not standing nearly as close as people would when watching a fight in the US or Europe.)

Helpmann
10-21-10, 02:49
...If you disrespect a Jamaican then all bets are of, since he might have to do something violent towards you so he doesn't lose all his respect on the street. Am not talking something minor here, you need to have done something pretty bad for this to happen, like throw a beer in someone's face type of incident...I love reading your posts on Jamaica.

Nevertheless, would a "gringo" sleeping with a Jamaican man's wife, girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, mother, sister, or cousin be considered disrespectful?

-Helpmann :)

Fun And Sun
10-21-10, 22:48
I love reading your posts on Jamaica.

Nevertheless, would a "gringo" sleeping with a Jamaican man's wife, girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, mother, sister, or cousin be considered disrespectful?

-Helpmann :)

LOL!

Answering your question seriously, well, sort of seriously... :)

Wife - yes, obviously... although it is not uncommon for married Jamaican women to cheat on their husbands, and vice-versa... Just don't get caught if you go down this route...

Girlfriend - lots of pros, semi-pros, quarter-pros, and even non-pros have Jamaican boyfriends. No problem if he knows, probably problems for her mainly if he finds out.

Ex-girlfriend - no.

Mother - while many of the girls there seem to have their first child in their late teens, you would need to have entered MILF territory before this becomes an issue, unless you tend to be beaten up by 10 year olds... :) Don't think it would be a problem even if she has a son in her late teens that walks in on you both.

Sister - no. Some drivers and people you meet will offer you their "sister", but it has only happened to me once that I have actually believed that I was banging someone's real sister since they had very similar face shape and the way they spoke to each other.

Cousin - no.

Fun And Sun
10-21-10, 23:22
pussy fucking:

in terms of sex, jamaica is a top-notch destination for pussy fucking. many of the girls will fuck you the way you see black girls acting in porno movies, talking nasty, moving a lot, moaning... they can get into some positions that are almost straight out of the kama sutra, so get on and enjoy the ride! if a girl really likes you then you are in for an absolutely amazing treat, morning, day, and night.

this goes for all the categories of girls, pros, semi-pros, quarter-pros, non-pros. even if you are paying for it, most of the girls will have an expectation to enjoy the encounter, and don't be surprised to get scolded if you didn't make her cum and to be expected to perform again quickly or to rub or lick her pussy until she cums.

this is the experience that makes jamaica special as a mongering destination. sure, some asian girls can do some crazy stuff when they squeeze their pussies on your dick, but for a true, wild, and nasty pussy fuck then jamaica can't be beat.

however, if you make her feel cheap during the encounter then there's a high risk of a lazy fuck. she won't star fish, but won't do things like shake her ass when you bang her doggy style, wiggle her hips around in missionary, or do a near perfect split with her legs with one foot on each side of the bed with your dick in her pussy when she is riding you.

blowjobs:

you might get your hopes up when you notice that almost all the girls have their tongues pierced. pretty much all of them will suck, pros tend to do cbj, while semi-pros, quarter-pros, non-pros are more likely to do bbbj. they all do this pretty well, but tend to see it as a prelude to fucking rather than being happy to blow away until you cum. (at a massage parlour or a strip club you can ask for bbbj/cim as a service and get this naturally.) they don't really like cim and cof, but will do it if they like you. naturally if you lick her pussy first then she is more likely to blow you until you cum, but most of them tend to want to be fucked after you eat them out...

anal:

despite the very sweat bubble butts that almost all girls walk around with, they are not to keen on getting ass fucked. pros that have been around for a while might let you for a bit extra money, and if a semi-pro/quarter-pro/non-pro really likes you then she might as well, even up to giving you her anal cherry...

but, don't go to jamaica with the expectations of lots of anal providers like in south america. it can be found, but maybe 1 girl out of 5 will do it. usual system applies, the older she is, the more likely she is to do it. the uglier she is, the more likely she is to do it.

be a bit careful about asking girls for anal when you first meet them at a club if you are targetting one of the pro categories that evening. it is thought of as a batty boy activity rather than something that heterosexuals should get up to.

threesomes:

threesomes are definitely possible, but not standard. some girls will "freak" for you if you take two of them. (when they say "freak" that means eat each others pussies.) it's not a common treasure to be found though, and your hotel will not like it at all if you come with two girls, plus you really need to keep an eye on your things and them if you get lucky and find two hotties for this. don't let two girls sleep over unless you know and trust one of them at least.

also, be warned. i have suggested threesomes to girls that have been with me for a few days, and have been delighted when they have said yes to having their friend join, to end up with the girl getting majorily upset if i seem to enjoy having her friend riding me more than when she rides me, or if i cum while fucking her friend instead of her. the usual threesome politics pretty much.

advanced stuff:

i don't really do the things that are on the "bizarre" shelf in the porn shop, so i have never tried suggesting to a jamaican girl that i wear a [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) during fucking, that i hog tie her and spank her, or similar. but, knowing how they are i don't think this is something that you should go there looking for.

Fun And Sun
10-27-10, 00:42
If you don't believe that there is such a thing as a "semi-pro", then Jamaica will convince you...

Also, the quarter-pros and non-pros are one of the top attractions of this lovely island. Especially combined with the way that the Jamaican girls fuck...

Would love to get some feedback on this categorisation from other sex adventurers that frequent Jamaica.

Ok, here goes:

Category 0 - Hardened Pros. These are girls that have been fucking people for money for years, either as strippers, on the night-scene, or by being on the street. Steer as far away from them as possible, or if you indulge, go for BJs only...

Category 1 - Pros. These are girls that are either strippers at a go-go, that work in massage parlours, or are on the night time circuit every night that is possible. They are in the business of, to use the local term, "selling pussy". Nothing wrong with that... Some of them are actually very very pretty and fun to be with, but you will need to pay them in cash for them to spend time with you, and in the end they are only after one thing, money. On the night time scene you recognise them by them wearing nicer clothes, make up, shoes, etc than the semi-pros. Their job is to fuck tourists, and they will be the most expensive to take home for the night. Many of them live in nice houses and make a good living from what they do. However, get the number of hot ones and they are happy to do ST in the day with little fuzz. Girl friend experience is possible, but not really likely, but you can get a couple of pretty good fucks from one of the Pros if she likes you.

Category 2 - Semi-pros. These are girls that go to Pier 1, Jungle, etc once in a while when they need a bit of money or for a bit of adventure as well. Some of them are very very very pretty, many of them are so-so. They are more fun to be with than a pro (unless a pro likes you, in which case you could be in for some very advanced sex treats, but you still need to give her her daily cost no matter what...). They are more shy than the pros, and also more selective with who they go with, if they go with anyone at all that night. Not selective in terms of looks, but in terms of how you act. With a pro this drives up costs mainly/only, unless you are drunk or start acting weird. Semi-pros blend in closely with quarter-pros, but the distinction is that a semi-pro will expect to be paid in cash while a quarter-pro will expect gifts and might take offense if you start to negotiate a nightly rate with her. The semi-pros may or may not give the girl friend experience, some of them can actually be a bit shy since they are embarrased about being involved in P4P, and it is rare that a Jamaican girl is shy.

Category 3 - Quarter-pros. These girls can be found on the night time circuit in Negril, Jungle, etc but they are not hookers and do not think of themselves as hookers. These girls you can also (actually, mainly) be found down town Mo'Bay, Negril, etc. Some of them hang out on the night time circuit, but to have fun and maybe meet a tourist rather than with the sole purpose of making money. They are normal girls, they expect you to charm them, buy them dinner, be nice to them, and so on, and they will sleep with you on the first or second night, but... They expect something in return. Inflated cab fare, money for their baby, money for imaginary hospital bills, their kids school uniform, and so on... However, these girls will definitely give you the girl friend experience, and will think of themselves as your girlfriend while you are in Jamaica (and when you come back) but they will not be with you for free. If you stay with a quarter-pro for several days, be prepared for a lot of stories about them needing to buy books for school, their kids needing vaccinations, not having enough money for that months rent, and so on. You need to give her a bit of money, but don't open your wallet whenever she opens her mouth to ask you for money, you will find that the cost of the books comes down quickly if you say that it sounds expensive. The quarter-pros are probably a uniquely Jamaican thing. Quarter-pros are very nice to be with and are a lot of fun to take on little day time trips, but the constant stories get exhausting after a while and it can also gradually get too expensive. A lot of the waitresses on Mo'Bay's Hip Strip fall into this category. These girls are the girl friend experience guaranteed.

Category 4 - Non-pros. I am using non-pro in the strictest sense here. These girls will spend time with you since they like you and only for that purpose, and will not accept money from you, or demand gifts from you. Sure, as all girlfriends anywhere across the world they love to be treated nice, but they will pay their own cab fare when they go home from your place, they will treat you to a meal once in a while, and they will give you some of the best sex that you will ever experience. These girls have normal jobs (not bull shit jobs like "doing hair" that is the cover story of a lot of pros and semi-pros) but jobs that they need to go to in the morning and that demand some sort of skill. Finding a real non-pro is a real treasure, but believe it or not, it is not difficult. However, the main draw back of a non-pro, she needs to go to work in the day time and can't move into your hotel room. (But... on your second trip, she will ditch work to be with you, but then you are actually in a serious relationship with her if you have flown back to see her again...) A non-pro is a girl friend, so naturally she will give you the girl friend experience.

Some musings on the above categories:

If you really like a pro girl, then keep her for a few days, just don't get emotionally attached... Many of them are very very pretty, that is why they have left the countryside for Mo'Bay and Negril to do what they do to make money from their looks. If they like you then they can fuck you like crazy, plus they might be up for including their "sister" (not their real sister, the girl that they live with) in threesomes.

Semi-pros are probably the cheapest option since they are amazed at making about USD 50 from just spending the night with you. Pros know what tourists are prepared to pay, and you need to stand your ground on what you will pay her. Am shouting this: DO NOT PAY A PRO MORE THAN USD 100 FOR ALL NIGHT! That is already a "tourist price", but guess what, the pros only fuck tourists, so tourist price applies...

Quarter-pros can quickly get expensive and over time can actually be the most expensive option. If you get a quarter-pro, get one that is almost a non-pro. Shouting this: DITCH HER IF SHE ASKS YOU TO LEND HER MONEY! If she does this, she is trying to scam you.

It is not uncommon for a girl in any category above to take you home to meet her mom and her kids if you spend a few days with her. (They all seem to have their first kid by age 16, so invariably most of them have kids that their mothers raise...) This is a sign of affection from her, but not as big a sign of affection as it would be in the US/Europe. For some of them, the reason that they take you with them is that so you will pay the cab fare and so that no other girl takes you over while she heads home...

Most importantly, remember that it is your trip. If you are bored with your girl, then move on. Let her down gently, do a normal "break up" like you would do with a girlfriend back home, but don't let a clingy girl that has started to bore you ruin your trip.

Treat all the girls with respect, but especially non-pro girls.

Always pay after, never in advance.

Even if a girl has kids that she needs to go home to, she will tell you that she is happy to stay at yours until you wake up and fuck twice or whatever so that you will go with her. Therefore above.

Do not "rip-off" a girl when it becomes time to pay. If she has done what you agreed, in terms of time and activities, then you need to pay her the full amount and if you are feeling nice maybe a small tip for "taxi". If she leaves early then you can deduct a little bit, but more like 20% than 50%. Do not throw her out of your room without paying in the morning. Yes, security will take her of the premises, but you can be in a very very dangerous situation this way. (And, Jamaica is not Thailand were all that will happen is that some motorcycle drivers will punch you a bit. This can seriously get you shot since treating a girl that way is "no respect".)

Fun And Sun
10-27-10, 01:22
Two more comments on cell phones:

- If you don't use your phone for three weeks, then all your credit is gone, so you can't use your Jamaican phone/chip when you come back to the island until you top up. (And you might as well text the credit to your driver or a girl you like when you leave since otherwise it will be gone.)

- If you don't top up for three months, then you loose your phone number and have to buy a new chip. (But you can still recover all the old phone numbers you have on your phone easily.)

Fun And Sun
10-27-10, 02:14
Picking up on the usually controversial topic of prices...

There is no system to prices for P4P in Jamaica in my experience, and pretty much the price tends to be whatever a girl can get you to pay her. You will find weird anamolies like ST sometimes being more costly than LT, etc.

First some definitions:

"ST" or "Short Time": This is not a defined concept like it is in most other mongering places, but when I write ST then that means a girl spending a few hours with you ***in the day time***. You can pretty much have as much sex as you like for a few hours until you are satisfied and/or tired.

"LT" or "Long Time": Again, this is not a defined concept like it is in most other mongering places, but when I write LT then that means a girl coming to your place ***at night*** for a few hours of play before going to sleep, or maybe only one round, and (ideally) a bit of play in the morning too.

Firstly: In case you did not know this, all P4P girls across the world don't like to be treated like hookers... In the same way that us mongerers don't like to be treated as, well, tricks... Same as we hate it when an escort arrives and says something unattractive like "where do you want to do it", treating us like "johns", girls all across the world don't like it when we treat them like hookers... A lot of girls in a lot of countries will have a bit of professionalism when it comes to this and will "keep smiling", but Jamaican girls don't.

Therefore, the first anamoly of Jamaican prices, you often find that it is more expensive to invite a girl for one quick fuck at your place then it will cost you to have her all night or for several hours in the day time, even if she is a pro. So... be prepared that you will be fucking the same pussy many many times that day (not a bad thing necessarily...)

In Jamaica, ST prices make no sense and there does not seem to be a standard price, and it also doesn't seem to work to negotiate a ST price on the phone when calling a girl up since she will say something ridiculous then (there are exceptions). What I usually do is that I call them up, say that it is the guy from last night/two nights ago, and let's meet up for a drink, go to the beach, etc. They know what is up. Then spend a bit of time with them hanging out (if I change my mind then I will ditch them politely) then suggest that we head back to my hotel room to play. (On one occasion I met a quarter-pro girl on the beach after I phoned her, we went into the water after 10 minutes, swam out a bit, fondled each other, and then I pulled her bikini aside a bit and fucked her under the water, but that is more of a crazy Jamaica story than what to expect...) We do our thing in my hotel room for a few hours, watch some TV, smoke some ganja, relax, and then when she leaves I will ask her if she needs taxi money, and then she will say yes. Then I ask how much, and it is usually between 2,000 Jamaican and 5,000 Jamaican. I will not pay more than 4,000 Jamaican (that is 50 USD) for a few hours of fun in the day time and then it would have to have been some very good sex, several times, and with a girl I want to repeat with. Some of them will leave and ask you for nothing, some of them will leave and ask you for their real taxi money, but if this happens then see it as a nice treat rather than what to expect.

In terms of "LT", again there is no standard pricing.

- If you want to do a stripper in a go go, then expect management to start their bidding at USD 50 just to rent a room. Fight them down to USD 20, even though that will take a while. The girl will do it for USD 50 for one fuck, but will start her bidding much higher... Taking her out for the night might incur a stop work price of USD 50, and then she will ask you for USD 100 to stay until dawn (she will start her bidding much higher than that). These prices vary from go-go to go-go. Really no point to take them at night since you can call them in the day time instead. If you find a really hot stripper that you want to spend time with both at night and in the day time, then the price of them not working one night at Moods is 2,000 Jamaican if you want to take them out, but they will pretend that it costs them 50 USD (4,000 Jamaican) not to go to work for one night

- If you want to do a hot pro from one of the night places: They will try for ridiculous prices like 200-300 USD. Do not pay more than USD 100 for the night, and then make sure that she agrees to stay for a few hours after you wake up for that price also. It is much easier to get her to agree to more time then to drop her price, but USD 100 is way too much and you should pay her less unless she is very hot and is a "must do" that could easily find another tourist to take her. A less hot pro will cost around 50-75 USD for all night. The pros are expensive since they have done a lot of tourists during their careers and they know what some tourists are prepared to pay.

- If you want to do a semi-pro, then expect in the region of 50 USD for all night and a bit of time in the morning.

- Quarter-pros are "free" since they don't charge money for sex. They might hit you up for a bit of taxi fare in the morning though. (Remember, you can get from Mo'Bay to Kingston for USD 12 using route taxis, so any taxi fare above 1,000 Jamaican is ridiculous but show some leniency...) A lot of quarter-pros will actually move into your hotel room after the first night.

- A non-pro is very unlikely to go home with you on the first night, especially if you meet her at a bar/club. If you take her for dinner she might actually go with you, but only for sleeping which is very frustrating...

Some musings on prices and Jamaican girls:

Always negotiate P4P in Jamaican money, even though I have written above in USD to make it easier to see what it costs, it will come out much cheaper that way, believe me. (However, always carry both USD and Jamaican money since a lot of stuff is actually cheaper to pay for in USD and sometimes it is cheaper to pay in Jamaican money.)

When you call a Jamaican girl to come meet you, she will be late, and not 10 minutes late, often hours late. Sometimes this is the fault of taxis not being on time, sometimes this is a result of their different concept of time... Therefore, make sure you agree to meet in a location where you don't mind sitting around for a while, be it the beach, at your hotel, at a bar, etc. You will quickly learn that "come soon" don't mean, well, come soon...

If you want to have a non-pro or quarter-pro girlfriend, then don't get one that works close to your hotel... So, for example, in Mo'Bay, don't have one of the waitresses at a nearby restaurant as your girlfriend and expect her not to find out about what you have been up to when she was at work in the day time, because she will... (Note, cheating on your girlfriend is not "no respect" but she will not be happy about it...)

The quarter-pros are very quick to move into your hotel room and claim girlfriend status...

Fun And Sun
11-10-10, 01:03
This is a picture that I took from Wexford hotel, mainly of the view, but I think it's helpful to post it since the white car that is full of people is a maroon license plate route taxi. This gives you an idea of how they look like. (Sorry that the taxi is small and a bit unclear, but took it of the view and just noticed that there was a route taxi in it when checking out some pictures.)

Fun And Sun
11-21-10, 01:00
I personally find it interesting that it is so easy to get with a non-pro without them wanting marriage and for you to take them home with you. Sure, many non-pro girls want to have a relationship with you spanning multiple trips, but many of them don't seem like they want to go much further than that.

I think that the reason that bedding non-pros is so easy is multi-fold.

Firstly, I think that Jamaica as a society is a lot more promiscuous than the US/EU. Am not saying that to put anyone from the island down. I really like Jamaica and Jamaican girls in particular. I think that sex is seen as something natural and not taboo as in other countries, and there is not therefore much stigma for a girl to fuck a tourist like it is in many other places.

Secondly, Jamaican girls don't really like Jamaican men. They have a pretty poor attitude towards girls, and are frequently violent towards them.

Thirdly, a tourist represents an opportunity for adventure. Many girls, even ones with pretty good jobs, will not have that much money left after they pay their rent, pay their food, pay their taxi fares etc. Spending a few days with a tourist, eating at restaurants, going out dancing, maybe a few day trips let's the girl do things that she probably does not often get the opportunity to do.

Fourthly, a lot of Jamaican girls are curious about tourists and outsiders. Most people that come to Jamaica will spend the whole trip behind the walls of an all inclusive resort, and interactions between normal girls (i.e. ones that are not pros or work in tourist places) is actually pretty rare.

Fun And Sun
11-22-10, 00:33
one thing that is pretty cool if you are staying in either mo'bay or negril is to take a girl, or two, and go on little day trips. there are loads of average quality sights that are pretty fun and interesting to check out within one to three hours drive of either town. (by average quality i don't mean that the sights are bad, but they are not sugarloaf, eiffel tower, angkor wat, macchu picchu type of sights). generally they are things like waterfalls, rum factories, etc.

am not going to detail each place since that you can just find in any guide book on non-mongering stuff, but want to add the following thoughts for those planning their trips:

1. going to nine mile, bob marley's birth place, i feel is a must. the drive up through the mountains from ocho rios takes a long time, but you will see some beautiful scenery and also how lots of jamaicans actually live on little farms up in the mountains. nine mile is also pretty nice and you learn quite a bit about music and jamaica's recent history from there. you get swamped by touts when you arrive, so keep your windows closed until the driver has gone through the gate and it has closed behind you. not that the touts are dangerous, but they are annoying. you must use one of the guides to go around the site. on my first trip to nine mile the girl that came with me asked our guide and a few other guides to sing a bob marley song to us after the tour was finished which was pretty cool (they have a little stage).

2. if a girl suggests that you go to dolphin cove since she wants to see it, then don't let her talk you into it. it is not worth the money and is freaking expensive, total cost will come out at a few hundred dollars since she will also want some of the pictures that they charge for. all you get is to touch a dolphin and ride on one for a few seconds. stay away!

3. touring a ganja farm. this is not covered in the guide books, obviously, but it is a pretty cool experience so it is worth going. all drivers will suggest to take you to a ganja farm (they are more farms than plantations, even though the drivers call them planations). only go with a driver that you have used beforehand and that you are learning to trust a bit. now, a ganja farm tour will mean that you will likely need to get out of the car and walk down a hidden path into the jungle a bit since these things need to have the pretense of being hidden... this is normal, so no need to freak out. also, the driver will need to get the "farmer's" permission to take you to the farm, and the farmer will expect a tip of between 500 and 1,000 jamaican to guide you around his farm. i actually liked it that the farmer showed me around since he was pretty knowledgeable about different types of ganja, how to grow it, how to care for it, etc. he also seemed to have a pretty comfortable life style, working about two hours a day except when it was harvest time and he had to work for ten hours a day for a hard three days in a row...

4. for those that are so inclined there is loads of scuba diving, fishing, [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118), golf, tennis, horse riding, etc but that is something to read about in a guide book and not on isg. i really like the lonely planet guide to jamaica, but don't like it for a lot of other destinations.

one last musing about lonely planet guide:

it really makes me laugh how they deal with our hobby in their guide books. quotes like: "don't go to this bar, it is full of local prostitutes" or "this is a shady area with lots of ladies of the night walking around after dark, so avoid after 6pm"... helpful in a funny sort of way. most other guide books seem to be silent on the topic.

Alew217
12-15-10, 00:31
I have been many times to SDQ but am thinking about MoBay now. Can someone please tell me more about hotels and areas to stay in MoBay. I plan to stay about 1 week.

Thanks Alew217

Thaijuan14
12-16-10, 02:37
I have been many times to SDQ but am thinking about MoBay now. Can someone please tell me more about hotels and areas to stay in MoBay. I plan to stay about 1 week.

Thanks Alew217Where you stay and what you do depends on what you want.

I usually stay at 4 star hotels except for Mobay. When I am in.

SDQ, I stay at the Intercontinental V.

Do you plan to drive? This is important. Do you want all-inclusive?

What areas are you comfortable in? Looking for locals or high end.

Escorts?

Alew217
12-16-10, 08:21
I do not plan onn driving this trip so somewhere close to the action would help, I also go more with the budget hotels, maybe up to 100. 00 a night. I am looking mostly for locals no high end, maybe some clubs and areas during the day to cruise. Any insight to taxis, how not to get ripped off, do they have meters or just barter.

Alew217.


Where you stay and what you do depends on what you want.

I usually stay at 4 star hotels except for Mobay. When I am in.

SDQ, I stay at the Intercontinental V.

Do you plan to drive? This is important. Do you want all-inclusive?

What areas are you comfortable in? Looking for locals or high end.

Escorts?

PogoStick
12-16-10, 16:27
It sounds like you need to be on the Strip. You'll have everything you need both day and night. The Wexford or the Dr Cave Beach Hotel would be pretty close to your budget. El Greco might be possible as well and it is a bit quieter but with easy access to the strip. Toby's is at the far end of the strip and a long hike to M-ville and stuff but it is a few dollars less. But not less enough to be worth the walk unless your budget is really tight.

Taxi drivers are everywhere. Walk around on the strip and they will talk to you. Tell them "not today, but maybe some other time" and then talk with them for a while. When you find one that you feel comfortable hanging out with, then talk business. A good driver can be your best asset. Treat him like a friend / wingman and you will get the same in return. The tourist / taximan relationship ends and friendship begins. Just trust your instincts and don't be afraid to try a couple drivers to find a good one. Just be sure they have a red license plate that starts with the letters PP as well as current stickers on the window. Those are the legal tourist taxis and they have extra training and insurance.

Have fun.

Pogo.


I do not plan onn driving this trip so somewhere close to the action would help, I also go more with the budget hotels, maybe up to 100. 00 a night. I am looking mostly for locals no high end, maybe some clubs and areas during the day to cruise. Any insight to taxis, how not to get ripped off, do they have meters or just barter.

Alew217.

Fun And Sun
12-17-10, 01:57
Alew,

I never have a go at newbies for posting questions in the wrong thread or for not RTFFing but you are a senior member, see below for a post I put in the Mo'Bay thread two months ago about how the taxis work in Mo'Bay in the Mo'Bay thread.

If you are a newbie then Pogo is right to point you towards the tourist taxis, but play it very carefully with these or you will end up being driven around by a hustler. Pogos point about the license plates is spot on to avoid this.

My personal view is that the Wexford is no longer the place to be for our hobby after the places "renovation", but I note that TJ and Pogo don't agree with this.


I do not plan onn driving this trip so somewhere close to the action would help, I also go more with the budget hotels, maybe up to 100. 00 a night. I am looking mostly for locals no high end, maybe some clubs and areas during the day to cruise. Any insight to taxis, how not to get ripped off, do they have meters or just barter.

Alew217.
This is information that really should be in the guide books, but it's not and being transported around Mo'Bay if you don't know this will eat into your mongering budget quickly or you will be doing a lot of walking, so am going to post this even though it has very little to do with mongering except for saving you money.

There is not really a public transport system in Jamaica with buses (and there are no trains on the island) , instead there is a system of route taxis. These are cars, most of them are white, older model Toyotas and Hondas and they have maroon license plates (or maybe brownish red is a better way to describe the colour). However, some of them are now newer cars, so if in doubt then ask the driver that he is a route taxi before you get in since some licensed private charter cars also have the maroon plates, this is differentiated by the code on the license plates, but I have not paid much attention to it. (If there are a couple of jamaicans in the car, then it is definitely a route taxi.)

These route taxis drive standard routes at standard prices, and you can flag them down and get in anywhere along the route and get of anywhere you want to along the route. The main route that goes through Mo'Bay starts at taxi central in downtown Mo'Bay, and finishes up by the airport after having gone along the length of the Hip Strip. The price of going this route is 80 jamaican (some drivers will charge 85 jamaican). The price is the same no matter where you get on or get of, so if you get on at for example Margaritaville, and get of at Dr. Cave Beach, it is still 80-85 jamaican. Drivers carry change, but don't expect them to be able to brake a 1, 000 or 500 note. Ideally carry coins, or 50 or 100 jamaican notes.

Other people will be in the taxi, and the taxi will stop to pick people up and drop people of along the way.

There are also unlicensed route taxis, these are called "robots" and they charge the same prices as the route taxis. Don't use these until you are pretty experienced. If one stops when you are waiting for your taxi then just wave him on. Once you are more experienced then you can use the robots as well (in the day).

If your destination is a few houndred meters away from the "route" then you can ask the driver to still drive you all the way. This should cost you an additional 20 jamaican. Don't try to negotiate this until you know how the route taxis work by having done it a couple of times, since if the driver sees that you are new to Jamaica then he will try to squeeze more money out of you.

If you want to have the taxi to yourself and go to a specific destination, then this is called a "charter taxi" but it is the same cars. You agree the price with the driver, if you want to go from, for example, Dr. Cave Beach to a specific location downtown then the price will be around 300 jamaican. The driver will try for 5 USD (400 jamaican) but stick to your guns at 300. Also, negotiate through the window before entering the taxi, and don't wait until you reach your destination to agree the fare since then the driver might ask for a ridiculous price and you will face a protracted argument.

Now, if you are not Jamaican, then the driver will try to charge you like you have chartered the taxi and not the regular price. Therefore, when you enter a route taxi, do the following: Flag the taxi down, get in, say nothing. The driver will start driving again along his route once you are seated. If he asks you where you are going, then say either: "this is a route taxi, right" or "this is a regular taxi, right?" Once he confirms that this is the case, then say where you want him to drop you of along the route. If he says no then point out that he has route taxi license plates and he will relent. They will try especially to get you to charter the taxi if no one else is in it, but they will also try this when there are others in the taxi.

When you want the taxi to stop, then you say (loudly)"driver, stop here". If you say "excuse me sir, please stop here" or something like that you will show that you are a green horn. Jamaicans address the taxi driver as "driver", the same way that the person making jerk chicken is "jerk man" or "bone man", the person selling smokes is "ganja man" etc.

Watch who is in the route taxi before getting in, especially at night. If it is a mix of ages and genders, no problem (mon. , if it is five twenty year old males that look like they are up to no good, then don't get in.

When you are waiting for your taxi then you might be approached by drivers standing nearby offering you a ride, cars might stop and suggest that they give you a ride (even for free, but trust me, it won't be free since you will be expected to give them money for a beer or similar) so just politely decline and say that today you are taking a route taxi. (Remember, Jamaicans will take it as a grave insult if you ignore them or "play deaf", so when I write "ignore" in other parts of this guide that I am putting together it means declining politely but firmly, but also being a bit cold and not engaging in conversation about what / why you aren't doing / buying what they suggest.)

You can take route taxis all around the island once you are very experienced, and this is a very cheap way of being transported around, but by very experienced I mean not only knowing what "bombo'clad" means but being able to act like you live in Jamaica.

If you want someone to drive you around all night, or take you to Negril, Nine Mile, etc then you should get your own driver and not a chartered route taxi driver.

Thaijuan14
12-17-10, 18:58
I do not plan onn driving this trip so somewhere close to the action would help, I also go more with the budget hotels, maybe up to 100. 00 a night. I am looking mostly for locals no high end, maybe some clubs and areas during the day to cruise. Any insight to taxis, how not to get ripped off, do they have meters or just barter.

Alew217. I also suggest the "Hip Strip" if you do not plan to drive. The strip didn't have the tourist traffic I once knew.

There is still a lot of local traffic, they were hanging out at The Cliff, M'ville, Rehab and Moods.

I use Expedia when I travel. At least on their website, you can search Mobay hotels and then click on.

Cheapest to expensive. From the cheapest, they should say that they are located on the strip. I paid.

$70 / night at the Wexford but that is because of changing times.

I am not specifically telling you to stay at the Wex, it has the best location to me, and they now serve free.

Breakfast (Jamaican / American). You can stand right outside of the hotel and scoop them up. That area is.

Really busy because of Rehab and Moods. I took pictures of the buildings but I need to resize them.

I don't like strip clubs, especially going in by myself, but I already have a trip paid for in March and I will.

Definitely go back to Moods. I forgot to report that Moods was packed at 2am (Sunday). There were.

Way more women than men standing around. I was with someone so all I could do was look.

While I was standing in Moods with my friend, some woman tapped me on the shoulder and wanted.

Me to buy her a drink. There were many girls I wanted to get with. The girls wearing bikinis obviously.

Worked there and the ones with clothes on, who knows what they were up to.

For Ja400, what do you have to lose? At least enjoy the show! Hahaha

PogoStick
12-19-10, 01:14
I don't even stay on the strip anymore. The Wex has location and breakfast going for it, but not much else. If I had to stay on the strip I would probably stay at El Greco. A few bucks more than the Wex but you get a full kitchen as well as a great breakfast plus some peace and quiet Or I would stay at Dr Cave Beach Hotel.

My corporate account at Rose Hall Hilton gives me a lot of upgrades and perks and a rental car gives me freedom. I am much happier away from the strip.

But for a beginner, the Wex does place you right in the middle of the best action. Everything you could want within a 2 minute walk. Or even right in front of the hotel.

Now I need to find a better place to stay around Ochi.

Pogo.


Alew,

My personal view is that the Wexford is no longer the place to be for our hobby after the places "renovation", but I note that Tijuana and Pogo don't agree with this.

Vincelee76
01-04-11, 06:48
Hello, everyone,

I need your advice.

I am thinking of traveling to jamica at kingston for mongering. How much for the ladies there? What is legal age of consent? Should I bring traveler checks for use atm card? Do they speak English in jamica?

Any advice would be wonderful.

Thank you

Fun And Sun
01-05-11, 12:09
Hello, everyone,

I need your advice.

I am thinking of traveling to jamica at kingston for mongering. How much for the ladies there? What is legal age of consent? Should I bring traveler checks for use atm card? Do they speak English in jamica?

Any advice would be wonderful.

Thank youI would strongly discourage you from going to Kingston for mongering purposes. Kingston is a very dangerous place and definitely not for someone that is new to Jamaica. You could quickly find yourself in a lot of trouble there, it is not safe for our hobby.

Check out Montego Bay or Negril instead. If you scroll down this thread and the Montego Bay and Negril threads you will find my draft "Fun and Sun's Guide to Montego Bay and Negril" with most of the details you will need to have a good trip.

English is spoken in Jamaica, except some rural areas where they only speak patois (the local dialect).

Take your ATM card with you rather than travellers cheques.

Buko Max
01-05-11, 12:54
Greetings gentleman,

Lots of great info here!

But was wondering if anybody has flown AirTran to Montego Bay?

What is the airport like?

Thanks in advance!

Fun And Sun
01-06-11, 00:34
Greetings gentleman,

Lots of great info here!

But was wondering if anybody has flown AirTran to Montego Bay?

What is the airport like?

Thanks in advance! Haven't flown AirTran to Mo'Bay. (Sounds like a ladyboy airline, LOL)

Airport is size wise like a small regional airport in the US, but you have to walk quite a bit to get out of it. Passport check is faster than it used to be dependent on how many stalls they have open. Your luggage takes a while to arrive (relax mon, you are in Jamaica now). How busy it is depends on the season, busy in high season (late December to around Easter) or low season (rest of the year).

Have written a bit about the experience of exiting the airport in the Mo'Bay thread and different ways to get into town which you might find helpful. You can find this report if you scroll back a few pages and it is up to date.

Essen49
01-08-11, 05:03
Hello, everyone,

I need your advice.

I am thinking of traveling to jamica at kingston for mongering. How much for the ladies there? What is legal age of consent? Should I bring traveler checks for use atm card? Do they speak English in jamica?

Any advice would be wonderful.

Thank youIf you do go to Kingston stick to the massage parlors rather than the street walkers. That way you may actually live to share your experiences with the rest of us.

Alew217
01-15-11, 09:50
Do you book your hotels from and website or hit and miss when you arrive. I am speaking of WEX, Dr Cave or El Greco?

Thanks Alew217.


I don't even stay on the strip anymore. The Wex has location and breakfast going for it, but not much else. If I had to stay on the strip I would probably stay at El Greco. A few bucks more than the Wex but you get a full kitchen as well as a great breakfast plus some peace and quiet Or I would stay at Dr Cave Beach Hotel.

My corporate account at Rose Hall Hilton gives me a lot of upgrades and perks and a rental car gives me freedom. I am much happier away from the strip.

But for a beginner, the Wex does place you right in the middle of the best action. Everything you could want within a 2 minute walk. Or even right in front of the hotel.

Now I need to find a better place to stay around Ochi.

Pogo.

PogoStick
01-15-11, 13:32
I book online. Things can fill up fast during season. If you want, book only a night or two and you can check out alternatives.


Do you book your hotels from and website or hit and miss when you arrive. I am speaking of WEX, Dr Cave or El Greco?

Thanks Alew217.

Buko Max
01-22-11, 20:35
Haven't flown AirTran to Mo'Bay. (Sounds like a ladyboy airline, LOL)Well it does sound weird now that you mention it! This 1,000 flight a day budget airline should be changing their name soon as they were recently acquired by Southwest Airlines.

Anyway, I was thinking about flying down next month and a ticket is only $350 from the midwest USA!
Would have been $50 dollars cheaper but Jamaica adds several travel and tourism taxes.

BionicMan
01-23-11, 00:11
Haven't flown AirTran to Mo'Bay. (Sounds like a ladyboy airline, LOL)Think about TransAir then. But do not be afraid: male stewards are dressed like men and the girls are women indeed, LMAO

Buko Max
01-28-11, 19:25
Gentleman,

Have you had any experiences with CC as it pertains to Jamaica?

Is it worth the money?

Always like to know a few women before I visit somewhere for the first time!

Alew217
01-28-11, 19:28
First of all, Thanks to all who answered my questions about travel to MoBay, this really helps alot. I do have other questions though. What type of phone cards are in Jamaica? I usually carry my unlocked phone and just buy a simm card on arrival.

Thanks Alew217

PogoStick
01-29-11, 14:03
First of all, Thanks to all who answered my questions about travel to MoBay, this really helps alot. I do have other questions though. What type of phone cards are in Jamaica? I usually carry my unlocked phone and just buy a simm card on arrival.

Thanks Alew217Just get a sim card and add about $10 to the account. I call the states a couple times a day, usually 20-60 min per call and that will last for most, if not all of my trip. Local calls are super cheap as are receiving calls from the abroad. It is part of a Jamaican initiative to make first world communication options available to all Jamaicans at an affordable cost.

You may be able to get one at the airport. If you are staying on the strip, there are a couple phone stores that can set you up.

I update my account online if I am not going to be there for a while to keep my number in service. It makes it easier to have an active phone as soon as I arrive. (It's usually ringing as I get off the plane)

Pogo

Fun And Sun
01-30-11, 00:09
First of all, Thanks to all who answered my questions about travel to MoBay, this really helps alot. I do have other questions though. What type of phone cards are in Jamaica? I usually carry my unlocked phone and just buy a simm card on arrival.

Thanks Alew217
Any experienced monger knows that a local cell phone is a must have accessory on a mongering trip longer than a few days, and particularly so in Jamaica since there is no day time scene and it is hard to meet hot girls on week day evenings sometimes as well too.

A cell phone is also a must have accessory if you want to try to get with a non-pro girl, or two non-pro girls.

There are two options to acquiring a local cell phone, bring an unlocked phone from home and buy a chip for 500 jamaican, or buy the cheapest local phone available which will cost you about 2, 000 jamaican. You will need to show your passport to get the chip since that is jamaican law, so take your passport with you to the store or you will have to go back to your hotel and get it and stand in line again. Making cell phone calls and sending texts is very cheap in jamaica, so don't load your phone with more than 500 jamaican of credit for two weeks. Topping up is expensive, so do a big top up in the store when you get your phone / chip.

There are two digicell stores that I know of in Mo'Bay, one on the hip strip towards the end (close to Buccaneers / Jolly Rogers so on the opposite end from Margaritaville) and one in town. The one in town has a much better selection of phones, and going into town to get your phone / chip is a good way to go on your first venture into down town so my recommendation is to head there in the morning of your second day in Jamaica. To get to downtown digicell, either ask a taxi to take you there (for 300 jamaican) or take a route taxi, get of at taxi central, and walk straight down the street past the gas station and a bit further. The digicell store is on the left side of the street.

Having acquired your new cell phone, go have some lunch and as a challenge try to get the waitress' phone number. Then walk over to the local shopping mall, and flirt with girls that are hanging around, that work in stores etc. This is so much easier than you think if you do it with a smile, act nicely, etc. Say things like "I just got a new phone, do you mind if I try it out by ringing you?" Believe me, this will get you her number in eight out of ten cases. Then ask her what she is doing for dinner, ask her to have coffee with you, or something. Make it your mission not to return from downtown with your new phone until you have the number of five hotties! .

Some more musings / tips on cell phones:

Don't lend your phone to girls or anyone else without watching carefully, since they will text themselves credit from your phone otherwise.

You can use your home cell phone on roaming too (US phones work in Jamaica) but this will be expensive, and girls and other mongerers will not want to call you since it's expensive.

Put your phone on silent. When jamaican girls call you and you don't pick up then they will phone five times at least which is annoying even if your phone is only on vibrate. Above posted in the Mo'Bay thread by myself three threads back. What's that saying about leading to water again?

Alew217
02-05-11, 20:32
I have chatted with a few girls from Kingston area. Are there buses that travel from Kingston to MoBay and how much would it cost. One lady I trust, I might send her money to meet me in MoBay but not too much money because there's a better than average chance they will only keep the money. Are the buses like the ones in DR?

Also what type of electric services to they have there? Is it 110v or 220V.

Thanks Gents.

Alew217

Artisttyp
02-05-11, 20:43
I have chatted with a few girls from Kingston area. Are there buses that travel from Kingston to MoBay and how much would it cost. One lady I trust, I might send her money to meet me in MoBay but not too much money because there's a better than average chance they will only keep the money. Are the buses like the ones in DR?

Also what type of electric services to they have there? Is it 110v or 220V.

Thanks Gents.

Alew217Voltage is the same as the USA. If it works in the USA it will work there. That has been my experience.

Transportation is tricky in jamaica. Most foreigners use shuttle van services or locals with cars to get them where they need to go. Hotels can arrange this or you can ask for numbers for shuttle bus companies. Getting a few numbers at the airport when you arrive would be a good idea. Using locals for transportation takes careful negotiations.

Otherwise I would tell her to find a local that wants to make a buck (there is an island full of them!) agree on a price you are willing to spend and have her and the driver meet you at the final destination for payment. I wouldn't pay for anything upfront in jamaica. That's just how it is down there. If she is on the up and up this should be no problem. Same with the driver.

IMHO you are looking at $100/150 for the ride.

There are city buses and route taxis that go from negril to mobay. No idea about kingston though.

Fun And Sun
02-06-11, 22:48
I have chatted with a few girls from Kingston area. Are there buses that travel from Kingston to MoBay and how much would it cost. One lady I trust, I might send her money to meet me in MoBay but not too much money because there's a better than average chance they will only keep the money. Are the buses like the ones in DR?
Transportation is tricky in jamaica. Most foreigners use shuttle van services or locals with cars to get them where they need to go. Hotels can arrange this or you can ask for numbers for shuttle bus companies. Getting a few numbers at the airport when you arrive would be a good idea. Using locals for transportation takes careful negotiations.

Otherwise I would tell her to find a local that wants to make a buck (there is an island full of them!) agree on a price you are willing to spend and have her and the driver meet you at the final destination for payment. I wouldn't pay for anything upfront in jamaica. That's just how it is down there. If she is on the up and up this should be no problem. Same with the driver.

IMHO you are looking at $100/150 for the ride.

There are city buses and route taxis that go from negril to mobay. No idea about kingston though. To be honest, I would not spend the money on importing a girl all the way from Kingston to Mo'Bay. There's plenty of local honeys for you to have fun with in Mo'Bay plus you can't really ditch her if you get bored

But if a particular girl has taken your fancy, and you really want to take her to Mo'Bay then have her take route taxis. It's only USD 12 and pretty much just as quick as having a driver take her. Even if she says that she wants to take a charter taxi all the way and for you to pay for it she won't do that. She will then take route taxis to Taxi Central or the airport, then a charter taxi from there and pocket the difference.

Or, why not head up to Kingston to visit her yourself? Gives you a very different perspective on life in Jamaica to be sure so is pretty interesting, but be careful since Kingston is not safe but it's fine if you are with a girl that you feel you can trust.

Thaijuan14
02-07-11, 03:08
I have chatted with a few girls from Kingston area. Are there buses that travel from Kingston to MoBay and how much would it cost. One lady I trust, I might send her money to meet me in MoBay but not too much money because there's a better than average chance they will only keep the money. Are the buses like the ones in DR?

Alew217I agree with F&S, unless this woman (or any woman in Kingston) is something special, I would just stick to the women in Mobay. Go downtown and you will meet more than enough fine women. Hang out at the patty store and offer them some lunch or something.

I have not been to Kingston yet, and I don't have anything negative to say. I will say my experience in Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta were different, because you had city girls and country (or beach) girls. My point is the level of sophistication between the two were obvious. You may have the same experience with King / Mobay girls.

Like I always say to my friends: Don't bring sand to the beach.

Alew217
02-12-11, 19:00
I am frustrated trying to figure out how to get a lady from Kingston to MoBay. I have never been to Jam before but I have been to DR many times. There in DR you can go from SDQ to Sosua for $10 bucks in a nice bus, but Jam is totally different. Now I am thinking about renting a car with a navigation system. I saw where Hertz & Avis have a Jamnavi system? Has anyone tried it before? I thought about traveling around and if possible I could drive to Kingston or close by with a navi system to guide me. I will be there 2 weeks and might get bored staying only on the hip strip. What do you think?

I am staying on the hip strip, is there any parking there? I am across the street from Daves beach cove@caribic house hotel.

I checked and hertz includes complete insurance with their rentals.

Alew217

Fun And Sun
02-13-11, 00:14
i am frustrated trying to figure out how to get a lady from kingston to mobay. i have never been to jam before but i have been to dr many times. there in dr you can go from sdq to sosua for $10 bucks in a nice bus, but jam is totally different. now i am thinking about renting a car with a navigation system. i saw where hertz & avis have a jamnavi system? has anyone tried it before? i thought about traveling around and if possible i could drive to kingston or close by with a navi system to guide me. i will be there 2 weeks and might get bored staying only on the hip strip. what do you think?

i am staying on the hip strip, is there any parking there? i am across the street from daves beach cove@caribic house hotel.

i checked and hertz includes complete insurance with their rentals.

alew217one thing that is really funny about jamaica is that everything happens really slow, except for driving, they drive at crazy speeds, overtake around blind corners on tiny little roads, and some really crazy people think it's a sport to drive at night without turning on their headlights. have a driver take you if you want to go around the island, driving in jamaica takes a life time to develop the right reflexes for and it is not that easy to find your way around out in the country.

PogoStick
02-13-11, 14:35
i am frustrated trying to figure out how to get a lady from kingston to mobay. i have never been to jam before but i have been to dr many times. there in dr you can go from sdq to sosua for $10 bucks in a nice bus, but jam is totally different. now i am thinking about renting a car with a navigation system. i saw where hertz & avis have a jamnavi system? has anyone tried it before? i thought about traveling around and if possible i could drive to kingston or close by with a navi system to guide me. i will be there 2 weeks and might get bored staying only on the hip strip. what do you think?

i am staying on the hip strip, is there any parking there? i am across the street from daves beach cove@caribic house hotel.

i checked and hertz includes complete insurance with their rentals.

alew217please, do not consider driving in jamaica until you have spent a lot of time there. i have been going between 4-8 times a year for 15 years. i just started driving myself last year. and only because the new road between montego bay and ocho rios is much easier to navigate than the old one and i am tired of staying on the strip to be close to my business activities. even so, there is no way in hell i would ever drive to kingston. that would be insane. i don't even want to go there with an experienced local driver, let alone by myself. also, the only parking near the caribic house is on the street. sometimes plentiful, mostly impossible.

find a local girl. there are plenty of them. last trip i flirted with a really cute one at the bobsled cafe, directly below your hotel. i could have scored with her, but i already had plans for that evening. you don't need to import one from kingston.

when you get bored, hire a driver for the day. after rental fees, insurance and gas it is only about a $20 difference to have a driver. he will know places to go for anything you might want and cool destinations that may not be on the typical commercial tour. plus, you can kick back with a red stripe or a spliff and look out the window to experience jamaica's beauty instead of crapping your pants in sheer terror while being lost in a strange place on a very poorly marked road. navi system or not. (and i am not exaggerating!)


one thing that is really funny about jamaica is that everything happens really slow, except for driving, they drive at crazy speeds, overtake around blind corners on tiny little roads, and some really crazy people think it's a sport to drive at night without turning on their headlights. have a driver take you if you want to go around the island, driving in jamaica takes a life time to develop the right reflexes for and it is not that easy to find your way around out in the country.that always gets me as well. they are so laid back and take their time with everything."soon come" is a way of life. if you are in a hurry at dinner, ask for the check when you place your order. that way it only takes 30 minutes to get it after your meal. ya mon, don't worry, mon. soon come. de sun still rise up in de mornin. no problem, mon.

but get a jamaican behind the wheel of a car and all of a sudden that sense of urgency you expected at the restaurant emerges in a hell bent fury to get there even a millisecond faster than the speed of light. there are only two foot positions in a jamaican car. all the way down on the gas or all the way down on the brake. you'll get overloaded trucks that think they are as quick and nimble as a motorcycle as they weave in and out of heavy traffic. and you never know when someone will stop on a busy highway to chat with someone on the side of the road.

i drive there now, but only on very familiar roads and usually at the very least somewhat scared and sometimes deeply terrified. for me, the freedom to move about at my own pace is worth it and it actually costs less than all of the taxis i would hire during even 1 day, and i have access to private parking at most of the places i need to go.

hire a driver, find a local girl and have fun.

pogo

Alew217
02-13-11, 18:41
i did find a place that would help. has anyone heard of "the knutsford express"? its a tour service which uses the large greyhound type buses and travels from kingston to mobay daily with no stops, that means about 4 hrs and their rates are about $22. 00 oneway. they also travel to other locations, check them out at knutsfordexpress. com.

thanks.

alew217.


please, do not consider driving in jamaica until you have spent a lot of time there. i have been going between 4-8 times a year for 15 years. i just started driving myself last year. and only because the new road between montego bay and ocho rios is much easier to navigate than the old one and i am tired of staying on the strip to be close to my business activities. even so, there is no way in hell i would ever drive to kingston. that would be insane. i don't even want to go there with an experienced local driver, let alone by myself. also, the only parking near the caribic house is on the street. sometimes plentiful, mostly impossible.

find a local girl. there are plenty of them. last trip i flirted with a really cute one at the bobsled cafe, directly below your hotel. i could have scored with her, but i already had plans for that evening. you don't need to import one from kingston.

when you get bored, hire a driver for the day. after rental fees, insurance and gas it is only about a $20 difference to have a driver. he will know places to go for anything you might want and cool destinations that may not be on the typical commercial tour. plus, you can kick back with a red stripe or a spliff and look out the window to experience jamaica's beauty instead of crapping your pants in sheer terror while being lost in a strange place on a very poorly marked road. navi system or not. (and i am not exaggerating!)

that always gets me as well. they are so laid back and take their time with everything."soon come" is a way of life. if you are in a hurry at dinner, ask for the check when you place your order. that way it only takes 30 minutes to get it after your meal. ya mon, don't worry, mon. soon come. de sun still rise up in de mornin. no problem, mon.

but get a jamaican behind the wheel of a car and all of a sudden that sense of urgency you expected at the restaurant emerges in a hell bent fury to get there even a millisecond faster than the speed of light. there are only two foot positions in a jamaican car. all the way down on the gas or all the way down on the brake. you'll get overloaded trucks that think they are as quick and nimble as a motorcycle as they weave in and out of heavy traffic. and you never know when someone will stop on a busy highway to chat with someone on the side of the road.

i drive there now, but only on very familiar roads and usually at the very least somewhat scared and sometimes deeply terrified. for me, the freedom to move about at my own pace is worth it and it actually costs less than all of the taxis i would hire during even 1 day, and i have access to private parking at most of the places i need to go.

hire a driver, find a local girl and have fun.

pogo

PogoStick
02-13-11, 21:19
I did find a place that would help. Has anyone heard of "The Knutsford Express"? Its a tour service which uses the large greyhound type buses and travels from Kingston to MoBay daily with no stops, that means about 4 hrs and their rates are about $22. 00 oneway. They also travel to other locations, check them out at Knutsfordexpress. Com.

Thanks.

Alew217. That's actually a very good price and would certainly be a good option. It would cost that much on a JUTA shuttle just from the airport to Ochi. And it would be a lot more comfortable for her than a route taxi.

Good find!

Pogo

Alew217
02-20-11, 06:31
OK this is my first trip to Mobay. Where do you suggest I go on a Friday night? I am staying on the hip strip so I won't ventue far right away. I have one coming to meet me on Monday so I am free til then. Need advise?

Thanks Alew217

Fun And Sun
02-20-11, 22:16
OK this is my first trip to Mobay. Where do you suggest I go on a Friday night? I am staying on the hip strip so I won't ventue far right away. I have one coming to meet me on Monday so I am free til then. Need advise?

Thanks Alew217Yep, and you still haven't read the Mo'Bay forum either.

Friday night is Pier 1 night and everyone goes there on Friday night. You will need to take a short taxi ride there. No point to go anywhere else really on Fridays.

In the Mo'Bay thread there is a post, by myself, titled "Friday Nights at Pier 1" setting out exactly how to get to Pier 1 and what to expect there.

Friday nights at Pier 1 is probably one of the best nights in Mo'Bay so have fun. If you got Saturday free too, then I suggest you head to Moods (assuming you are not trying to score with a non-pro while you wait for your Kingston girl). Moods often has a freaky show on Saturdays (live fucking and sucking on stage) which is something you must experience while in Jamaica, it's so much better than live sex shows in Amsterdam or Thailand.

Sunday can be a bit quiet, but gather lots of numbers at Pier 1 and at Moods and you can set something nice up for yourself then. (Get a cell phone, it's only about USD 25 and a good investment to make your trip better.)

Alew217
02-23-11, 01:27
Thanks Fun and Sun for the advice on Friday and Saturday nights. Just so happened that I left myself alone on these nights, so of I will go. I can't believe the live fucking and sucking? I will defintely be there to see. Its guys like you that make this board so invaluable to others. Good advice is very helpful. I wish some other guys would be around that week, we could meet for a beer and plot stragty.

Thanks Alew217.


Yep, and you still haven't read the Mo'Bay forum either.

Friday night is Pier 1 night and everyone goes there on Friday night. You will need to take a short taxi ride there. No point to go anywhere else really on Fridays.

In the Mo'Bay thread there is a post, by myself, titled "Friday Nights at Pier 1" setting out exactly how to get to Pier 1 and what to expect there.

Friday nights at Pier 1 is probably one of the best nights in Mo'Bay so have fun. If you got Saturday free too, then I suggest you head to Moods (assuming you are not trying to score with a non-pro while you wait for your Kingston girl). Moods often has a freaky show on Saturdays (live fucking and sucking on stage) which is something you must experience while in Jamaica, it's so much better than live sex shows in Amsterdam or Thailand.

Sunday can be a bit quiet, but gather lots of numbers at Pier 1 and at Moods and you can set something nice up for yourself then. (Get a cell phone, it's only about USD 25 and a good investment to make your trip better.)

Loxxii
02-24-11, 17:15
Hey if anyone else is here, call me at 8765778671. I am way out of my league here. My name is Carlos. I feel like I am getting hustled left and right, LOL.

Fun And Sun
02-26-11, 00:28
Thanks Fun and Sun for the advice on Friday and Saturday nights. Just so happened that I left myself alone on these nights, so of I will go. I can't believe the live fucking and sucking? I will defintely be there to see. Its guys like you that make this board so invaluable to others. Good advice is very helpful. I wish some other guys would be around that week, we could meet for a beer and plot stragty.

Thanks Alew217.

Hey Alew, thanks, and no worries. Glad the info I post is useful.

If the girl that is coming to see you from Kingston is cool then you might want to check out Aquasol go-go with her on Monday night. They might have stopped doing their freaky shows on Mondays, but when I was there back in September / October they did a deal were you paid I think USD 20 for entrance and all you can drink and then there are four girls on stage doing lesbian, fucking anyone brave enough to go on stage, various fucking contests so that was a great night. Aquasol is the go-go inside Aquasol theme park, go left out of Wexford and walk towards down town and you'll walk past it, it is the big water park so you can't miss it.

Alew217
02-26-11, 19:45
I am staying first at Carbic Hotel across from Dr Cave Hotel, Can I pay to use the pool at the different hotels around? I know in SDQ you can pay for a day at different hotels to use their pools.

Thanks.

Alew217.


Hey Alew, thanks, and no worries. Glad the info I post is useful.

If the girl that is coming to see you from Kingston is cool then you might want to check out Aquasol go-go with her on Monday night. They might have stopped doing their freaky shows on Mondays, but when I was there back in September / October they did a deal were you paid I think USD 20 for entrance and all you can drink and then there are four girls on stage doing lesbian, fucking anyone brave enough to go on stage, various fucking contests so that was a great night. Aquasol is the go-go inside Aquasol theme park, go left out of Wexford and walk towards down town and you'll walk past it, it is the big water park so you can't miss it.

Thaijuan14
02-28-11, 05:14
Sorry to those members who PM'ed me, I just got back from BKK, trying to come off that high.

I just renewed my membership for many reasons: I have been getting excellent information for.

Years which led to great mongering. This site also forewarned me about places I thought we

Good for mongering but really wasn't as posted by members.

If anything, this site has been good reading. I just love reading what's going on in all parts of the.

World. From the best places to monger to the worst, thanks to those who took one for the team.

Back to Jamaica, the motherland for me. I have relatives in Ja, so it gives me some reasons to go.

There, but it really is a beautiful place, especially if you like beauty and booty.

While I was in BKK and Pattaya (for the first time) , I was in heaven. No one talks about the Russian.

Invasion in Pattaya as far as the non-pro Russian girls, damn were they hot.

I am comparing probably one of the best (overall) places to monger to Ja. While I was in Thailand,

I thought I would not go any other place, such an abundance of women cheap and easy (to meet)

Women. When I got back, I remembered I have a trip already set for the end of March for Mobay.

Then I got excited again thinking about all my brown bunnies. For those of you who don't travel,

I have come to a realization about life and mongering. Have you heard of "State of mind?".

While I am in a certain city (that is exciting) , I don't want to leave, but when I get back home, I am.

Okay to go to another city? I have been to Santo Domingo and really want to go back at least one.

More time.

All I can say is life is short, get out there with ISG in tow and enjoy life! My friends never go outside.

Their backyard and revel when I come back with stories. I don't like traveling by myself, but I am not.

Going to live the miserable life my friends live (especially the married ones).

If anyone has future plans for Asia or the Americas, PM me, I work best when I have a partner in crime.

Thanks ISG and fellow members.

PS. Since the new format, my post are a little messed up, please excuse the periods that I didn't put.

In there and from that the next word is capitalized. I tried to separate paragraphs and it won't, so my.

Posts are a little hard on the eyes, maybe I am doing something wrong, I don't know.

PogoStick
02-28-11, 14:03
Thaijuan,

I hear ya Bro!

Jamaica was the first foreign country that I really got to know well. When I first started going there I was not into mongering. But I was single, well paid and in JA for a week every month. Needless to say, I had a lot of fun!

I didn't start mongering until I started to go to SXM, but even then it was hit or miss since I had never even heard of Seamans.

Then about 6 years ago I discovered ISG and my world changed. My first legal brothel experience was in Aruba, soon followed by SXM and the true heaven of this hemisphere. Campo in Curacao.

The amount of information being shared here is astounding. Searching through all of the forums I have built a bucket list of places I must visit. I have actually based some major career and business decisions on being able to have reasons to travel to the mongering hotspots around the world.

The first time I went to BKK I spent months reading the forum. By the time I arrived I had a good idea of where to go, what to expect and how not to get ripped off. I got there armed with years of experience and wisdom and had the time of my life. I had such a clear picture of what it was like that it almost seemed familiar to me.

I did get lucky. I knew that my business associate was a straight shooter with a jealous Thai wife. We have been friends for about 20 years, so I didn't expect any help from that front. But one day he was showing me around the Skytrain and we got off at Nana. I got excited because I had read about the area but didn't want to seem interested and offend my colleague. We walked around the area and got hungry. He said he had heard of a good place for lunch. Some German Beergarden. I almost crapped my pants, I had read about that place. It is one of the most famous mongering venues in the world! On the way in he nervously whispered that he had heard that there might be hooker or two but the food was supposed to be good. Of course the moment we entered about a dozen girls welcomed him with hugs and kisses, calling him by name. We both broke out laughing our asses off. We traded ISG names and it turned out we knew each other on here as well. He took me on the grand tour and we explore more each time I visit. ISG is a very small world!

I still have places to go in the Caribbean like the DR and Costa Rica. South America is on the radar, especially Colombia and Brazil. Hong Kong is next in Asia. Trying to figure out reasons to get to the FKKs in Germany and do some window shopping in Amsterdam.

There is a difference between tourists and travelers. Those that only wish to observe from a safe tour and those that want to get out, meet the locals and sample the more exotic offerings that are only found off the beaten path.

Most of the fine gentlemen that frequent this board are true travelers. We find ourselves balls deep in local culture and in many places we venture into realms that no ordinary tourist would ever consider. And we share that experience to help others better enjoy their own trips.

Even though I really don't monger in Jamaica, I still like contributing to this forum. It is one of my favorite places on earth to visit and I enjoy sharing my love of it's beauty and it's people.

The world is an awesome place and I want to experience as much of it as I can. Forums like ISG make the world a little smaller and a lot friendlier. It is a virtual wingman and also helps us find a real wingman. I have met some great guys from this board.

Pogo.


Sorry to those members who PM'ed me, I just got back from BKK, trying to come off that high.

I just renewed my membership for many reasons: I have been getting excellent information for.

Years which led to great mongering. This site also forewarned me about places I thought we

Good for mongering but really wasn't as posted by members.

If anything, this site has been good reading. I just love reading what's going on in all parts of the.

World. From the best places to monger to the worst, thanks to those who took one for the team.

Back to Jamaica, the motherland for me. I have relatives in Ja, so it gives me some reasons to go.

There, but it really is a beautiful place, especially if you like beauty and booty.

While I was in BKK and Pattaya (for the first time) , I was in heaven. No one talks about the Russian.

Invasion in Pattaya as far as the non-pro Russian girls, damn were they hot.

I am comparing probably one of the best (overall) places to monger to Ja. While I was in Thailand,

I thought I would not go any other place, such an abundance of women cheap and easy (to meet)

Women. When I got back, I remembered I have a trip already set for the end of March for Mobay.

Then I got excited again thinking about all my brown bunnies. For those of you who don't travel,

I have come to a realization about life and mongering. Have you heard of "State of mind?".

While I am in a certain city (that is exciting) , I don't want to leave, but when I get back home, I am.

Okay to go to another city? I have been to Santo Domingo and really want to go back at least one.

More time.

All I can say is life is short, get out there with ISG in tow and enjoy life! My friends never go outside.

Their backyard and revel when I come back with stories. I don't like traveling by myself, but I am not.

Going to live the miserable life my friends live (especially the married ones).

If anyone has future plans for Asia or the Americas, PM me, I work best when I have a partner in crime.

Thanks ISG and fellow members.

PS. Since the new format, my post are a little messed up, please excuse the periods that I didn't put.

In there and from that the next word is capitalized. I tried to separate paragraphs and it won't, so my.

Posts are a little hard on the eyes, maybe I am doing something wrong, I don't know.

Loxxii
03-01-11, 02:47
i am staying first at carbic hotel across from dr cave hotel, can i pay to use the pool at the different hotels around? i know in sdq you can pay for a day at different hotels to use their pools.

thanks.

alew217. dude i was at the caribic hotel from 2/23 to 2/26 in room 11. which one were you in? maybe we passed each other.

i will share my experience now and also include questions and overlooked items from a complete traveling rookie.

this is long and detailed for those of us that like reading these things for fun. if you just want useful info. see the bold areas.

first off, make sure you know where you want to go and check airfare prices thoroughly. i booked through air tran headed to punta cana, dr and changed my mind later. both these decisions cost me. next time (in about 50 days) i will book through spirit because they are way cheaper. also, i love big ebony asses. (line from a drake verse: i aint joking, girl that thang is poking, you kind of remind me of that girl that's in the usa open). so i don't think i will ever travel to anywhere besides jamaica.

second, i regret not taking my laptop. i needed to visit aff and isg a couple times and kind of felt weird doing so from a public internet cafe with kids sitting next to me. (don't worry, i hid it nicely) i was told that my hotel had wi fi. i did bring my droid, but i was afraid to use it due to roaming issues. i wonder if i could have used it on their wifi as opposed to verizon's 3g and incurred no data roaming charges?

also, i exchanged right away at the airport. big mistake as i was given a rate of 75 instead of the 80-85 you get in most places in town. i used the juta on my first trip as instructed. it was very easy. next time, i will try the route taxi from the airport.

i got there late and was worried about going downtown for the phone, so i walked down to the digicell on the hip strip. [b]cost me $40 for the smallest phone and ja200 worth of minutes. this was plenty.

i had 3 contacts from aff, but i could not get in touch with any of them on the first night so i went to the massage parlor with the white door. it's called tropical fantasy. on the way, i ran into a hustler who i was not able to shake. he handed me a flyer for a chinese restaurant and waited for me to finish buying my cell phone so that he could show me the place. i told him i had eaten and may check it out tomorrow, so he wanted to take me down a side street to see his artwork. at this point, i am annoyed, but worried about "no respect" so i go take a look. finally, i got sick of it, said no thank you, and started to walk away. they have this neat little technique when you try to leave. they smile, call you brother, and reach out to shake your hand knowing that you can't walk away while they are holding your hand. clever. and a little gay.

finally shook this clown and made my way to the spot. easy to find with the directions given in a previous post. i walked in, looked over the menu while the girls came out one by one. first cherry (aka serena williams) came out and then chocolate who was tall with a very hoarse voice. there was a third girl, but i chose cherry because she was taking to long to come out. paid ja2000 for a shower with the girl, massage, and release. the shower was kinda cold, but she was working me over nicely. it was weird that there was an open window where people could look in and see me down to about the neck. the hotel shower was like this too. afterwards, she gave me a very good massage more like legit massage places in the us as opposed to korean spas, except she used her breasts to apply the oils. towards the end, i had her straddle me almost like 69 during the hj so i could finger her. she turned on the light and said in a very sexy accent "now you can get a better view". at that moment, i knew i was going to live here one day. after the clean up, she asked for a tip and i gave her a whole dollar. lol. that would have gotten me stabbed in the us, but she seemed fine with it. i would have given more, but what's the standard tip percentage in jamaica? i had this problem at restaurants too.

here is another big mistake i made. i got a safe at the first desk and put my money in it before i headed out for the massage. i only brought ja2000 and planned to come back later for extras if i liked the girls. later that night, i tried to get my money, but the desk girl had gone home for the night. i was broke until the morning. i tried to contact my aff girls to no avail, so i decided to at least walk the strip. i was approached by a pimp and streetwalker. i told them i had no money until the morning. i was offered to have the girl spend the night with me and i could pay her ja5000 in the morning. i knew it was against protocol, but i could not resist the chance to get ass on credit for the first time in my life. also, all my valuables were locked up so there was no risk of being stolen from.

the night watchman let us walk straight in. i got bbjtcim and banged her till we fell asleep and again in the morning before i paid her and sent her away without so much as walking her to the door. she peed a lot (like 5 times) during the night with the door open which really pissed me off, pun intended. lol. that is so not sexy.

the next day, i walked downtown to use the internet. it was like time square during new years. i was overwhelmed and did not feel comfortable talking to girls on the street due to the fast pace everyone was walking (unlike on the hip strip) and due to all the noise. i walked back to the city centre mall and tried to smile at some jamaican girls at the chinese restaurant there, but they did not look interested. as a side note, i bought a soda there for ja80 which would have cost me $2 had i paid in us currency. that is a rip. i finally heard back from one of the aff girls and see set up a lunch date at dr. cave beach.

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her name was stacy and she was a stunner. kind of skinny and not my type. (line from a kanye verse: we like the girls who aint on tv cause they got more ass than the models) but she was definitely the best looking girl i had ever taken out. reminds me of meagan good. we had a wonder conversation over lunch, then left. she didn't seem too slutty, so i walked her back to her taxi and did not press the issue of going back to my room. before she left, she said,"you can give me a hug goodbye, i won't bite you." i should have asked her in then, but i was nervous and really like her. i was trying to be a gentleman and not a monger. this was probably a mistake.

that night, i went to margaritaville to watch the sights. after about an hour, i meet a thick girl upstairs name tameika. we exchanged numbers and left to get some jerk chicken together. we ate it in my room and were banging an hour or 2 later. she came to the club with her cousin, but spent the night with me. everything was fine until the morning when she wanted to walk to the store. she grabbed a basket and threw all kinds of shit in there including food for the both of us, medicine for her cold. 2 beers, and a calling card for her phone. i was annoyed and could have refused, but i didn't. it occurred to me that she must be a quarter or semi pro and i kind of felt obligated at this point. (again worried about the no respect thing again)

we walked downtown so i could use the computer again. i basically ignored her the whole way and finally ditched her. i set up a date with another girl from aff but that got interrupted when stacy called back. we had talked about music at lunch and she wanted to hear some of the songs i told her about. i told her to come on over. she said i hope you don't mind if i bring my toothbrush. dude, i almost died. this must be what mongering is like in heaven. she came over and we went to dinner at the twisted kilt. it was at night and we stay outside overlooking the ocean with candles on the table. i tell you man. in my past life, i could have easily fallen in love in a setting like that. afterwards, we head back to my room and watch tv. later, she showers and gets in the bed with nothing on but a t shirt and panties. so i make my move and can you believe that this chick says "so you think you can just take what you want?" i was like wtf! didn't like the sound of that, so i backed off. i was kinda mad cause i felt led on and didn't want to get any sexual assault charges, but again, this was the most beautiful woman i had been with, so i tried sweet talking her instead of just assuming that i had permission to touch a naked woman that brings a toothbrush, showers, and gets in my bed naked after saying that she likes me (how silly of me, lol.) well the sweet talking worked and in minutes i was engaged in the most vicious 69 i had every experienced. now i know why i don't like skinny women. that broad was banging in the mouth with her bony ass pelvis. about knocked my teeth out. i hit her missionary and we feel asleep.

in the morning, we talked and i gave her my home cell number and email since it was my last day. she told me how to bbm her from my droid, but i made the crucial mistake of not getting her email address or bbm username. she walked me to my taxi so i could head to the airport. at the taxi, she asks me to give her ja6000 to buy a dress. i laughed to myself and thought,"et tu, stacy?" i told her i could not afford that since i had spent most of my ja currency and was not about to go to the atm to get more for her as i was leaving town. i gave her ja1000 on it. she seemed annoyed, but still rode with me to the airport and hugged me as i left. we talked on the phone while i was waiting in the longest line of my life trying to get through security to leave jamaica. everything seemed fine until i tried several times to text and call her from home to get her email address. hint: if you meet a girl there that is active on the internet, make her download skype so you can talk to her from home for free.

after a couple of times of me calling and her being busy, she basically tells me that she liked me, but we are different and live in two different worlds and that i am a nice part of her past. damnn! lol. wow, that was quick. i guess they are used to tourists cumming and going. i almost wanted to tell her that it's not that serious and cuss her ass out, but i can't be too mad given that i basically smashed a model all night for a little over $11 bucks, lol. i just wondered why she wanted my contact info if she was going to be like that. i decided to not contact her again until i am back in mobay 50 days from now. hopefully, she is not put off by the long distance thing at that time. if she is, i will just get one of the thousands of others just like her. dueces! on to the next one.

i love this place. isg for life.

Thaijuan14
03-07-11, 19:15
I am about two weeks out before going to Mobay. I hope there will be some spring break action.

I love Ja women, but there isn't much to do in Ja outside of mongering. Also, I visited BKK and I liked.

The low prices. I wish Ja was cheap. If its considered expensive for us foreigners, what must it be.

Like for the locals?

I have read two reports from members using AFF. I was wondering about that website. I see it.

Has paid dividends though. Its not for me, even though the thought of having a couple of girls on.

The fly when I arrive would be cool. I am into wysIwyg, I like to see her in person before anything.

Is agreed upon.

This might be my last trip to the islands for awhile, I am feeling Asian fever. The only thing I have.

Planned is a massage at Shelly's-if she is still there. I am also going to try to pick up one of the.

Shop girls on the strip. That idea came to mind from my last trip.

Ja has been good to me but I now look for the more modern places. I want to go to large malls,

Lots of women around, cheap prices, plentiful modes of transportation and cheap. I will report.

Back if anything of interest happens. I pretty much expect it to be the same thing.

I do go to visit relatives, but now its time I branch out.

Artisttyp
03-07-11, 19:48
but there isn't much to do in Ja outside of mongering.There is lots to do in JA if you have the money for it. If you can afford day trips and sporting activities you will definitely enjoy yourself. The only thing I can do is rent a bicycle and make that my thing. The few day trips I did take were very interesting.

Jamaica is a very unique country with great culture. The problem is transportation and the price of having a driver.

$70/80 is the norm for daily excursions. When you add that to food and mongering it comes out to a $200 + day.

Thaijuan14
03-10-11, 02:05
There is lots to do in JA if you have the money for it. If you can afford day trips and sporting activities you will definitely enjoy yourself. The only thing I can do is rent a bicycle and make that my thing. The few day trips I did take were very interesting.

Jamaica is a very unique country with great culture. The problem is transportation and the price of having a driver.

$70/80 is the norm for daily excursions. When you add that to food and mongering it comes out to a $200 + day. I have been going to Ja since 1997, at least twice each year. I have gone on some excursions but most activities do not interest me. I was thinking about doing the bike tour one day, but that's about it. I have seen brochures at the hotel and there wasn't anything that I cared for.

I met a cool taxi driver on my last trip and he said he would take me around and even hook me up with a local girl, a non pro of course. He is planning on taking me (and a friend that I hooked him up with) to Negril. In the times that I have visited Ja, I have only been to Ochi and Mobay.

When you talked about transportation, that's what I was talking about. I hate their forms of transportation. I have learned how to get around by the red plate cabs which are cheap but I hate it because you stop for other passengers and maybe you have to transfer. You pay about 2 1/2 times for a private cab.

I wish my dear country had cheaper modes of transportation. I never considered renting, because of the factor of how crazy they drive, how they drive on the left side of the road and the fear of something happening to my rental and trying to figure my way around the town.

To be honest, after visiting BKK, it made me wish Ja had the same way of life, especially since my friends in BKK kept telling me Thai people are poor. Basically, I would like to see Ja become more modernized. I love the people, I wish they had bustling malls that the locals patronized. I don't really have to do the tourist thing, just step outside my hotel and there is action all around.

I will report back on my experience in Negril. There is a MP (X-Quizit Bodyworks club) that is in downtown Mobay that I will try to visit. I was given a business card by a driver the last time I was there. He was going to take me there but ended up taking me to Montego Bay Ocean View, which used to be a MP that I forgot the name.

I think the driver took me to Ocean View because on the way, he asked me what I liked and I told him I like them skinny and I guess he felt most of the girls at X-quizit were healthy. He knew the perfect girl at OV. He didn't know I was on a scouting mission when I was trying to go to x-quizit. I showed the business card of x-quizit to the driver I had met and he didn't know the place.

Alew217
03-10-11, 17:38
I am in mobay now at Caribic Hotel. I find it harder to find quality women here, at least not as easy as DR but I do love this place. I am trying to find an apartment to rent for 2 months this summer now. By the way do you have a number for the taxi driver you meintioned? I would like to find a somewhat trusting driver here.

More details coming.

Alew217.


I have been going to Ja since 1997, at least twice each year. I have gone on some excursions but most activities do not interest me. I was thinking about doing the bike tour one day, but that's about it. I have seen brochures at the hotel and there wasn't anything that I cared for.

I met a cool taxi driver on my last trip and he said he would take me around and even hook me up with a local girl, a non pro of course. He is planning on taking me (and a friend that I hooked him up with) to Negril. In the times that I have visited Ja, I have only been to Ochi and Mobay.

When you talked about transportation, that's what I was talking about. I hate their forms of transportation. I have learned how to get around by the red plate cabs which are cheap but I hate it because you stop for other passengers and maybe you have to transfer. You pay about 2 1/2 times for a private cab.

I wish my dear country had cheaper modes of transportation. I never considered renting, because of the factor of how crazy they drive, how they drive on the left side of the road and the fear of something happening to my rental and trying to figure my way around the town.

To be honest, after visiting BKK, it made me wish Ja had the same way of life, especially since my friends in BKK kept telling me Thai people are poor. Basically, I would like to see Ja become more modernized. I love the people, I wish they had bustling malls that the locals patronized. I don't really have to do the tourist thing, just step outside my hotel and there is action all around.

I will report back on my experience in Negril. There is a MP (X-Quizit Bodyworks club) that is in downtown Mobay that I will try to visit. I was given a business card by a driver the last time I was there. He was going to take me there but ended up taking me to Montego Bay Ocean View, which used to be a MP that I forgot the name.

I think the driver took me to Ocean View because on the way, he asked me what I liked and I told him I like them skinny and I guess he felt most of the girls at X-quizit were healthy. He knew the perfect girl at OV. He didn't know I was on a scouting mission when I was trying to go to x-quizit. I showed the business card of x-quizit to the driver I had met and he didn't know the place.

Thaijuan14
03-12-11, 04:23
I am in mobay now at Caribic Hotel. I find it harder to find quality women here, at least not as easy as DR but I do love this place. I am trying to find an apartment to rent for 2 months this summer now. By the way do you have a number for the taxi driver you meintioned? I would like to find a somewhat trusting driver here.

More details coming.

Alew217. I love DR women, but beauty is beauty for me. I just told my friend whatever kind of woman you like, you need to go to the motherland-or the country they are from. The only thing about hunting in a particular country is the availability. Maybe the women of that country are conservative or they are not in great numbers like some asian countries, where its easy pickins.

I was listening to reggae and I thought about Ja, of course. The first time I went to Ja, I went to Ochi. I will never forget how all I heard was reggae. I thought that was strange, like as if they were cutoff from the rest of the world.

When I stay in Mobay, I would wish they would be more modernized. If you go downtown, you will get an eyeful of beautiful women.

I am wondering if there will be some spring break action when I get there. I would not mind getting with some girls from home, there's just nothing like "strange pussy" as Chris Rock would say. I really don't think anyone would have a problem picking up Ja women. The thing for me is when I am "full", I am ready to do things outside the bed and don't really know what to do.

My arrival is optimum, Thursday. The party starts from then until Sunday. It would be nice if the island is full of spring breakers. I can remember M'ville being packed one April, I went. I didn't go in, because I already had things going, but I liked that the strip had lots of foot traffic.

I don't know where you can find really upscale women in Mobay (their hangout). I have never been to Kingston. I don't know if it is the place I am looking for, a place bustling with people, places to see without costing you money.

Loxxii
06-24-11, 20:16
Most of my time in Jamaica has been spent with massage girls. On 2 occasions, I have gotten their numbers and had them come over for the night. I paid anywhere from 70-100 US and expected to have sex several times but once got it once and no BJ on top of that.

Is it standard to have to pay again for extra innings with working girls? I had a nonpro once who brought me food and free sex several nights to the point that I could not get rid of her. The downside is that she was the one chick on the island with no ass. I haven't called her this trip, but I might later.

Fun And Sun
06-25-11, 22:57
Most of my time in Jamaica has been spent with massage girls. On 2 occasions, I have gotten their numbers and had them come over for the night. I paid anywhere from 70-100 US and expected to have sex several times but once got it once and no BJ on top of that.

Is it standard to have to pay again for extra innings with working girls? I had a nonpro once who brought me food and free sex several nights to the point that I could not get rid of her. The downside is that she was the one chick on the island with no ass. I haven't called her this trip, but I might later. You can have a bad experience with girls from time-to-time and only get one pop, but that's far from the norm. Even when they come for just a few hours you can usually play as much as you want to until you are tired, and if it's all night then definitely you can have several pops. Would say that this hold for the pros that work at go-gos and massage parlours pretty much 90% of the time and for semi-pros as well. Quarter-pros act like GFs so for them it definitely holds.

Generally speaking though, you will do much better if you treat them a bit like a GF, so going for a few drinks or for dinner before you do the deed back in your room. In the day time if I want to meet up with a girl I usually have her meet me at the beach or at a bar, or if in the evening I will invite her to join me for dinner first. This goes a long way since they don't like to feel treated like they are pros.

Jon32
06-26-11, 06:55
I love DR women, but beauty is beauty for me. I just told my friend whatever kind of woman you like, you need to go to the motherland-or the country they are from. The only thing about hunting in a particular country is the availability. Maybe the women of that country are conservative or they are not in great numbers like some asian countries, where its easy pickins.

Yes 100% true. If you like blonde blue eyes women, go to Eastern Europe / Russia. Latinas Colombia, Venezuela. Indigenous women (native / indian looking) again, some Carribean islands or Peru / Chile. For black women I have always wanted to go to Africa as I think that would be really interesting as opposed to the black latinas in the Carribean I have known.

America is pretty diverse, but the worst place in the world for women that look like a specific race, know some native language, or know about a culture. I'm not a big fan of some races that mix, imo women are much more beautiful if they are 100% from somewhere (whether it's black, asian, latin, etc.)

Plus also with this method, you don't limit yourself... ex. if you love Colombians and you go to Colombia - everyone is Colombian. If you like latin black women, go to DR - everyone is this type. Seems easy enough, but some of my friends don't get it!

MikeNice2732
07-23-11, 01:03
[I] Will be in Ocho Rios Sept 20-30 and really need some help in finding the local mongering hotspots. Everything seems to be in the bigger cities. Hopefully someone can help I like to know what my plan is ahead of time and won't even go if there is no action.

Tzumbo
06-11-12, 11:12
A report by the Associated Press has advised Tourists travelling to Jamaica to expect paying more for their travails. Finance Minister Peter Phillips announced in parliament last week that starting in August 2012, all persons travelling to the island will now pay a US$20. 00 entrance fee and persons staying in hotels will pay up to US$4. 00 per night extra under a new accommodation tax which will take effect in September. The Jamaica Hotel and Tourist Association had attempted to have the Government delay these new tax measures, however following meetings the hotel room tax fee was lowered from US$12. 00 per night.

http://og.nr/rbt/6555-increased-tax-measures-for-tourism-sector-makes-international-news.html

Tzumbo
06-11-12, 11:19
Are Jamaican me crazy! If I was doing a tour of kingston, where would I start?For SW's start here (ripon / eureka)

http://goo.gl/maps/gojT

Or.

Try holborn / trafalgar http://goo.gl/maps/hKpS

Kabul Guy
12-22-13, 11:13
I am thinking of taking a job offer in Jamaica. I would be based in Kingston in a gated community living with several co-workers. My job would take me all over the island, Oches Rio and Mo Bay a lot not as much along the south cost or to Negril but hey, it's a small island and not all that hard to get around in except for the traffic.

My experience on the island is as a tourist, traveled with family so no time or chance for some monger action in any of several trips.

I am interested in the sex scene in Jamaica. Reading through the Jamaica posts it looks like not many people are happy with the p4p scene. Lots of stories of poor service and rip offs. Escort prices for anything decent appear to be western world or near that with much lower prices for the local SW with the attendant risks of these girls.

What I am looking for is semi or non pro's, younger girls (18 to 30) and to have 3 or 4 regulars with the odd strange thrown into the mix. I'm white Canadian and late 50's and don't mind spending a little for results.

My experience elsewhere is that you can often get a non pro for a quarter the price of a pro, just make sure that she does not think that the money is for sex or can at least pretend that the money is not for sex. Often nice meals and some fun non sexual times (the beach, movies etc.) is sufficient to get a girl to sleep with you on a regular basis.

This is especially true in poorer countries where the small gifts (usually $US 50 to 100 in value) can go a long way to making a girl's life a lot nicer. However my experience is mainly with Asian girls where they don't have the same guilt and social hang ups on sex as I am reading that Jamaicans do.

Not much here about finding this sort of action. Any good leads on web sites, areas or places where one can find the non pro girls? Been making friends on tagged. Com and had a few introductory chats but so far not much in the way of anything that will lead definitely to some real action when I get to the island. Have looked at some Jamaica dating sites but so far have not taken the plunge and paid the up front fees, any recommendations on these sites?

Manny51
01-08-14, 03:34
Hi everyone,

Just made some last minute plans for Jamaica next week for 5 quick nites. So excited! Wanted to see the Rebel Salute Reggae fest. First night Kingston, then two nites in Ochos Rios, then two nites in Negril.

Been reading the Fun and Sun's report (excellent!) as well as a few years back on each posting region. Unfortunately, the Jamaica forum is not as active as some of the other countries, so I am forced to ask some basic questions for updates.

Most importantly, what are some good girl-friendly hotels in Ochos and Negril? In Negril, was probably going to do Samsara, which seems to be everybody's favorite. Any thoughts on Hedonism? For Ochos, I have NO candidates. Suggestions? I would like places close to the beach and / or party / restaurant action. Ceiling of $125 if possible.

Any updated news on venues? Shades in Ochos? Any Jamaica regulars have hot new suggestions!

In Kingston, I was planning to hang back. From what I hear, a little dangerous. Was planning to just go to sound systems party.

Any other advice greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

PogoStick
01-09-14, 15:50
Hi everyone,

Just made some last minute plans for Jamaica next week for 5 quick nites. So excited! Wanted to see the Rebel Salute Reggae fest. First night Kingston, then two nites in Ochos Rios, then two nites in Negril.

Been reading the Fun and Sun's report (excellent!) as well as a few years back on each posting region. Unfortunately, the Jamaica forum is not as active as some of the other countries, so I am forced to ask some basic questions for updates.

Most importantly, what are some good girl-friendly hotels in Ochos and Negril? In Negril, was probably going to do Samsara, which seems to be everybody's favorite. Any thoughts on Hedonism? For Ochos, I have NO candidates. Suggestions? I would like places close to the beach and / or party / restaurant action. Ceiling of $125 if possible.

Any updated news on venues? Shades in Ochos? Any Jamaica regulars have hot new suggestions!

In Kingston, I was planning to hang back. From what I hear, a little dangerous. Was planning to just go to sound systems party.

Any other advice greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!Any hotel in Jamaica that is not all-inclusive will be guest friendly

Artisttyp
01-09-14, 19:19
Any hotel in Jamaica that is not all-inclusive will be guest friendlySamsara should be roughly $10/20 for a guest. I just emailed them a few weeks ago to ask.

Manny51
01-10-14, 04:07
Thanks for the replies! One more question:

Anyone have a feel for the prevalence of STDs in Jamaica? For example, I read in one of the guidebooks that the HIV rate in working girls is over 20. If HIV is that high, all the other nasties are probably high too.

Casual sex always has its risks, but if the odds are stacked too high, sometimes I sit it out. Thoughts?

Rudebwoy1000
02-25-14, 03:02
Hi everyone,

Just made some last minute plans for Jamaica next week for 5 quick nites. So excited! Wanted to see the Rebel Salute Reggae fest. First night Kingston, then two nites in Ochos Rios, then two nites in Negril.

Been reading the Fun and Sun's report (excellent!) as well as a few years back on each posting region. Unfortunately, the Jamaica forum is not as active as some of the other countries, so I am forced to ask some basic questions for updates.

Most importantly, what are some good girl-friendly hotels in Ochos and Negril? In Negril, was probably going to do Samsara, which seems to be everybody's favorite. Any thoughts on Hedonism? For Ochos, I have NO candidates. Suggestions? I would like places close to the beach and / or party / restaurant action. Ceiling of $125 if possible.

Any updated news on venues? Shades in Ochos? Any Jamaica regulars have hot new suggestions!

In Kingston, I was planning to hang back. From what I hear, a little dangerous. Was planning to just go to sound systems party.

Any other advice greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!Probably replying a bit late to your post but I'm Jamaican & just wanted to provide info for the people thinking of coming here.

If you want the best prices for working girls & to see a good selection of them then going to portmore port Henderson strip aka backroad is the place to go (30mins drive from Kingston). They basically have little motels if you will that the girls rent, prices last time I went was anywhere from $10-30 for 15-20mins. The girls their are usually a crap shoot, sometimes you get a few decent ones, but other times you see no good lookers at all.

Kingston strip clubs (the ones around new Kingston) will generally have the best looking girls, Lucky 38 probably the most saught after strip club / mongering club in kingston right now.

At the end of the day though, the best looking girls on this island are mostly middle class to upper class women who you will find in Kingston, the thing is though they probably won't ever accept P4P, hence there are better mongering destinations in the world, but if you do want to see attractive Jamaican women then Kingston is probably the only place you will find them in abundance.

Rudebwoy1000
02-25-14, 03:06
Thanks for the replies! One more question:

Anyone have a feel for the prevalence of STDs in Jamaica? For example, I read in one of the guidebooks that the HIV rate in working girls is over 20. If HIV is that high, all the other nasties are probably high too.

Casual sex always has its risks, but if the odds are stacked too high, sometimes I sit it out. Thoughts?I personally don't even know of any studies being done where std / hiv test have been done on our prostitutes. In general you should expect mongering to be a high risk endeavour regardless of which country your in. Just my 2cents on the matter. Jamaican prostitutes are educated on the matter of how std's are transfered, so not sure that I would assume its more prevalent in Jamaica than anywhere else.

Freckly
11-24-14, 03:18
Can anyone provide information of affordable guest friendly hotels? It would be highly appreciated.

Artisttyp
11-24-14, 05:36
Can anyone provide information of affordable guest friendly hotels? It would be highly appreciated.Samsara Resort West End Rd. Negril.

Olders
04-08-15, 13:23
I will be staying in Runaway bay in August, withe the wife and kids, what will be my nearest place for some action if I can get away for a day or 2.

Thaijuan14
04-12-15, 19:52
I will be staying in Runaway bay in August, withe the wife and kids, what will be my nearest place for some action if I can get away for a day or 2.I stayed there this past December, I was majorly disappointed. I always stay in Mobay, but I decided to give this place a try after my tour bus stopped there to let us use the restroom. I found the property very beautiful but after staying there, that became a different thing.

First, the property, better bring lots of mosquito repellant. They sell some on the property but you know how the prices will be. I never had a mosquito problem in Mobay. I did pretty good keeping them off until one morning I ran over to get an early morning snack and I didn't apply any repellant and I paid the price.

I always carry campho-phenique period, it came in handy to appease the bite stings.

Second, they have time share solicitors that will ruin your stay because you spend the whole time saying no. They have them all over the property.

Taxi rides are expensive because nothing is within walking range. They will quote you a price through a book, don't pay that price, tell them a lower price. They will accept because most people staying on the resort are content and never leave so their business is not good and they will take lower offers.

I went into town once to pickup some items and it was expensive (just one way). We had to stay with the driver so I couldn't really scope out the area, we didn't want to bore him. It would have been nice if he could have dropped us off and we got a ride back. They jack you in Jamaica on taxis because the local cabs are hard to get around in. I know my way around Mobay.

I didn't get out because I was messing with the talent on property. I did meet a nice cab driver that was going to drive me to Kingston, I didn't go because the weather wasn't favorable. I would pull one of the cab drivers and tell them what you are interested in. They know how to hook you up, they always did for me in Mobay.

Last, I am done with Jamaica, I have been going since 98'. It was fun in the old days, just like anything, nothing ever lasts. Mobay isn't fun anymore because they closed the Coral Reef (used to be a casino) and the strip is pretty much dead, I never saw M'ville busy like it used to be in the old days-maybe during springbreak. I had a hook up when I stayed at the Wexford, the bellman could get on his mobile phone and a lady would be there that afternoon, he quit.

I see Jamaica (they do have very pretty women) as place not to go to monger, if you have to go for business then you have to make the best of the trip. There are far more easier places to monger (The DR my favorite). What I have found is that the VERY pretty women don't work, they get taken care of by the men. I wonder what happens when they get older (like 50 and above).

The jamaican women do not have the mind frame like thailand or the PI, when they see you, they don't automatically think sex. They care about jumping in the bed. You can win them over but who has time-and the money? The island has changed so much when I first went there. You know with the internet, they have picked up things from the US and other places. These girls know their value and will use it.

I met a woman who drove her own car, its hard to find a woman who owns her own car. This woman also had her own business which really put her in the 1% club of women on the island. It took three trips and lots of schmoozing but I got her to give me some love. Afterwards, she told me she was careful who she gave it out to because she didn't want the guy going around bragging. I was lucky and I considered that the last good piece, I am done with this island.

I can't wait until Cuba opens up!

Nice Guy 99
02-25-19, 03:08
I see these Jamaican "skinout" vids on the web. Is this something that is real? Where do we find these bars / parties?