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MONTEGO BAY, JAMAICA,
…. I just got back from Montego Bay, and it is nice. Now here is the deal. Because I brought a female with me there was no SW action done by me, but I have some advice.
…. First I was at a RESORT, and there are a variety of HOTEL ATTENDANTS that are more than willing to get you any thing you want from women any size to gonja. The hotel/resort are full of room attentands that are willing to do a few extras for a price … lets say $20 for FS, but it has to be quick … nothing long for they might get caught. NOT every room servant does this, say don’t screw up and ask the wrong one. ASK a male hotel/ resort person first. If you are with a female as I was, there is even less chance, for these resort jobs are GOLD to the Jamaicans, and they want to keep them at all cost.
ANYWAY …. More of the ladies at the resort won’t do anything on resort/ hotel property, but if you caught a cab to their place, they might be willing to service you, if you can SHUT THE HELL UP, WHEN YOU RETURN, AND RESPECT THEM WHILE AT WORK.
…. Still, any halfway decent looking man can get it for “FREE” just by being NICE DECENT, AND VERY RESPECTFUL.
“RESPECT IS EVERYTHING IN JAMAICA, and being disrespectful, can get you “KILLED” quickly.
…. As for the SW, you will need to get off the land, and they do not just walk the street as we are accustom. So just stay off the street … this country has “REAL THUGS/ BADDTY BOYZ” NOT homeboy wanna be’s . This boyz can be rough, and the Police are NO DAMN HELP. SW, IF NOT LEGAL, BUT ONE IS EVER ARRESTED FOR IT, HASSLED, or STOPPED. THE POLICE has enough to do.
…. The going rate at the resorts and better hotels are $50-$100. If you get an attendant to do it for you, you want not have to deal with trouble. Then you will pay $40-50per for the girl, $20 for the attendant, $5-10 for passing her through security, and have your own condoms. Buy the GOOD TROJANS at home (USA).
…. YOU will have to tell the attendant exactly what you want in a woman, for Jamaican men like big women. I saw some super fine, thin, great body women at the resort who worked there. If I were alone I an certain 3 of the 7 I saw I could have had “FREE” sax with. The whole duration I was there.
….If you go to Jamaica they speak English, but they speak very fast, and they in incomplete sentence, so you who be speaking “WHAT DID YOU SAY, EXCUSE ME A LOT” ????? Have them slow down.
……. ((((((( WORD ))))))) …….
Mighty Spearsman
05-22-02, 16:59
Dear WORDUP:
Thanks for your post, I've been in Jamaica several times during the last ten years, and your comments are 100% on target (including the recommendation to bring your own condoms with you).
You are also correct in noting that Jamaican men have different taste in women than American men. One night a taxi driver in Kingston tried to hook me up with a butt-ugly "pyramid" girl, that is, flat-chested, medium waist, but a 5-foot-wide butt. All he cared about was that her butt was huge, so I had to explain to him that I wanted a prettier girl who had nice titties as well as a nice butt.
I noticed in the Tenessee section that some other posters were suspicious of you. Please keep posting, and don't let the nay-sayers get you down. But I must say that I am glad that you stopped posting in "all caps"!
Peace, bro
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hey might sopearman,
as for caps here are a few .... just kidding !!!!
.... yea those playa hater in tenn. don't get out much, so their worlds are extremely limited. thus there sex life is the same. they are the kind of guys who will pay hundred for a piece of ass, get ripped off, cry about it, and go home to there ugly ass wives.
.... i am glad you like the report, and enjoy my post. one thing i did not mention is if at all possible, "do not drive" and if possble "stay off the roads", even mini buses and taxi's. the roads are just tooooo narrow, and drive speed like crazy. while there just going to, and coming from the resort to the airport there were 4 accidents, two very bad, on the same road.
it is too dangerous to be on jamaica's roads.
.... whatever you need, ask it to be brought to you. they will serve you like a king for a price. and the will be well worth it. don't be a big spender, and start low. only the most trusted, should be rewarded with more money.
....... never pay in advance for a girl to be brought to you. you run the risk of loosing your money, or her not being allowed on the property. if you must give up money only give $10-15-20 to start the process.
....... jamaica is a very poor country, so "no" woman should cost you more than $50, for the whole night .... not for one nut, or for an hour. if that is the case, sismiss her, and sent them both packing.
still, make certain the attendant understands fully what you want, and what you will pay, or not pay.
remember .... if you are at the resort they think of you as being a rich american, and they see "american dollar signs $$$ !!!!
.... common sense may not be common, but use it anyway !!!!
((((((( word )))))))
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Whistle830
01-04-03, 02:04
Here's what I found while in MB, Jamaica:
I was only there for a couple of days and spent an evening at Pier One. I just checked the website and it says the place is closed for renovations so you may want to check to see if they've reopened before going.
Pier One was a busy bar/dance club and I had a blast. I caught a girl with her hand in my front pocket but unfortunately, she was gripping my wallet and not my member...This reminds me - don't have anything of value on you - watches, jewelry, etc., or more money than you plan on spending that evening.
There were some attractive black ladies out near the parking lot that seemed pretty happy and animated as they spoke to passers-by so I thought I'd go see what was going on. When I approached a tall fox came up to me for a chat and fondled my dick while giving me an impressive cleavage shot. Although this was a real "sperm of the moment" decision, I decided to go behind a small shack for a quick covered bj. We had settled on $20.00 Canadian, which is about $12.00 US.
Unfortunately, I was a little unsettled by the location as it was a little too public. Also the girl continued to negotiate for a bigger tip in between sucks - first time I've ever negotiated DURING sex. To top it off, another SW stormed around the corner before we were finished and wanted to know if I was interested in a 3-some. As I was already wary of the location, disappointed in the continuing negotiation and then freaked by the sudden 3rd party, I decided it was best to cut my losses and unpopped my cock from her mouth - this is also a first timer for me.
The evening wasn't a total loss though. On my way home, there was a cute black chick walking ahead of me. She slowed down so that soon we were walking side by side. We struck up a conversation and as I passed my hotel, I casually asked her if she wanted to come up with me. She replied "really?" which is always a pretty good sign. It turned out that she was walking home from a restaurant job.
I had my valuables well hidden in the room so I wasn't too worried about her when I went to the bathroom. She cleaned herself up as well and we had a great fuckfest for the rest of the evening. In the morning, I noticed that some of the bills I had on the dresser were missing. It was a minor rip-off, only ten bucks or so, but still a rip-off. Disappointing but she gave me a great massage and some shower sex which sort of made up for her minor indiscretion. When I was sending her home, she asked for cab fare and I said "I think you've already helped yourself..."
She got the picture.
At the airport, I was on a charter flight and everone was swapping stories about the petty theft, pickpockets, etc. The message here is that you REALLY have to watch yourself here in Mo Bay but the poontang is available...
Whistle
Hey Guys,
I'm going to Jamaica in a few weeks. Please tell me which spot is the best. Montego Bay or Negril. Also, I need to know if the hotels are girl friendly. Also, do Jamaican women generally tend to have big round booties, or do they tend to be on the tall thin side? I'd appreciate any help on this matter.
Thanks
Bareback Bob
10-30-03, 16:58
Either is fine, but remember that both are the two most heavily touristed towns in Jamaica. What you get with this are lots of hookers but also lots of annoying hustlers, gridlock traffic, packed restaurants, and high prices. No matter, you will still have an awesome time in either place if hitting some big black booty is the reason you're coming to Jamaica.
I never had a problem bringing a girl back to a motel/hotel in Jamaica, however I rarely did so. I usually took care of business at her place (could be dangerous) or in the back of the strip clubs.
The girls themselves will know which hotels are allowable for this type of thing - I would avoid the all-inclusive places as these tend to frown upon hookers because of all the families there. Also, it's a good idea to go to a crap motel or her place as it is not unknown for these girls to go rifling through your wallet/luggage when you're taking a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) or having a shower in your room.
About the booty, you will see all shapes and sizes, but the vast majority are big-assed. My favorite are the girls who have an average/thin frame but have a monster bubble butt sticking out the back - go-go girls in Jamaica usually have this body type. Also, last but certainly not least, Jamaica is probably one of the easiet and best countries in the world when it comes to getting anal sex.
Enjoy the booty Bagra.
Thanks Barebackobb,
I'm very excited about Jamaica now after your rave reviews and talk of big booties. Can't wait. I have one question however. How can I avoid the tourists traps? Being a Black man, can I blend in better with the locals and possibly go places where obvious tourists might not? Also, anyadvice on where to go in Negril upon arrival? I don't want to waste any time. Good looking out.
Bareback Bob
11-03-03, 17:57
bagra:
my advice on how to avoid tourist traps is to be smarter than the average tourist. what i do whenever i go to another country is i first go to my local public library and borrow the most current lonelyplanet guidebook on the country where i'm going to. these books are the best as they are geared towards budget travellers, though all price ranges are represented. these books, combined with the online sex guide forums will get you the most bang for your buck. i brought the 2003 lonelyplanet jamaica guide with me on my last trip in august and saved $25 by borrowing it from the library instead of buying it. it's got good maps showing where the most reasonably priced non-tourist trap places are and all kinds of other useful stuff. plus, eating where locals eat will save you lots of money, but is really delicious and filling.
in my opinion, you being black will not help you or hurt you - you will essentially be recognized by the locals as another tourist, either immediately by the way you dress or whenever they hear you speak. if someone mistakes you for being a local they'll say something to you in patois, which 9 times out of 10 you will not understand due to it being said rapidly and the fact that's it the local slang. once they see that you're a foreigner they'll smile and speak standard english to you - they're really some of the friendliest people you'll ever meet. however, there are places in jamaica, especially kingston and the bigger towns, where even locals don't go. beware, as there's gang turf and other crap going on in some of these areas, so be careful and don't wander aimlessly, especially at night.
i'm posting a report i found at another site in the negril section of this site. it's some real good info. also, read some of my reports on other areas of jamaica if you intend on visiting these. tap some of that big booty for me bagra and pop it up the poopshoot if you can, however you'll need to bring your own lube for that though.
Looking for some help! I am planning a little family vacation and wondering if there is good places to take a family ages 5, 7, 13, 16 and the wife to have family fun in Jamaica.? Beach and tour stuff? But also is there any day time action that a father can go have some fun on his own? M.P., Bars and Short time house? What are some good places to stay? Any help would be great?
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Bareback Bob
12-04-03, 17:41
in your situation, in the daytime, your only option might be enlist the help of one of the many hustlers that can be found in montego bay and every other resort town in jamaica. preferably talk to one that's young as he will usually have better connections to the younger, hotter girls. hustlers can get you anything you want, but make sure to negotiate hard before you set off on what his tip will be. they know all the hidden crap motels where you can take your girl as well. just tell him your preferences (really big ass, really dark, tall/short, etc.) and he'll find it for you. alternatively, you could get a cab driver to do the same thing. if you are free at night go to any one of the strip clubs in town - all the girls there are available for takeout or for backroom action. prices can vary from usd $30-100. try some anal there jim. jamaica is the #1 place in the world for pooper popping.
BootyLover
12-05-03, 23:58
There seems to be some serious confusion out there. Too many destinations have been suggested as best for anal sex. Do you refer to:
1- Widespread Availability
2- Excitment from butt shape
3- Ease of Entry in the hole
4- Female excitement about it
Places like cuba, brazil, venezuela, peru and india have been pointed out as top destination in for anal bliss. A female brazilian friend told me above 50% of regular girl do it therefore I assume that around 75% working girl offer it. Here we are speaking of widespread availability.
Cuban girls have been said the be the freakiest of the area. here we are speaking of #4. Indian do cultural cleaning habits (#3) are good choices. Could you be more explicit about Jamaica, since It would be cheaper for me to go there compare to my planned destination: Brazil.
Bareback Bob
12-09-03, 19:22
jamaica is an incredibly ass-focused country. if you talk to the locals there they will tell you that a huge ass is beautiful and ideal for a woman to possess such an ass. the majority of jamaican men prefer the big, huge assed women over the skinny ones anyway. at the discos and strip clubs the girls wear outfits that accentuate their big asses like daisy dukes, super tight pants, and "baddy rider" shorts. also most jamaican women are not top heavy so don't expect a big rack on these girls. however they make up for it in the ass department big time.
all the women in jamaica i've been with have been open to anal action. all you have to do is pay attention to their ass by squeezing and kissing their big cheeks, and even licking their asshole and they will plead for you to pump that poopshoot. anal availability from strippers and street girls is 100%. regular girls: 2 out of 3 is my guess for getting anal action. don't forget to pack your lube.
Guys, I don't know where you get your information from. But Jamaica is not the anal paradise some people have been making it out to be. It's just as difficult to get ass action there as anywhere else.
You also always need to travel with your lube in the event someone says yes. That's about a 2 in 10 chance! Though they have beautiful bubble-butts, most Jamaican girls do not take it in the ass.
I am a full fledge ass-man. I know the score in that place. Booty pumping yes, but not as abundant as some guys claim.
Alan
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who posted info. I'm checking out Montgeo Bay in 2 weeks and this info helps me out a lot.
Member #1381
04-30-04, 22:55
I was looking for some kind of update on MoBay before my trip this week but had to risk the search on my own.
I had a really nice time in MoBay this week. Stayed at the Half Moon but did not see and action there - really did not expect any but you never can tell. Arrived on Sunday but did not venture to far from the Hotel need to prepare for business meeting the next day.
But Monday nite was a different story. Ventured to the Hip Strip down town near the casino and Margeritaville. Went into the casino to see what was happening and saw quite a few fine woman there but was uncertain as to who/how to approach with all the security and cameras in the place. Anyway, I watched a few ladies enter, play the slots, leave and return. Got tired of this and went outside and walked down the steet to the XTatic stip club. There were several ladies outside ready to make my aquaintance. One that I had met (but not fucked) on my trip back in October. She was really trying to make a score with me but just not what I wanted. A little early for the club so I walked back to the casino for another look and a beer. And spotted a chocolate bubble butt honey that I was interested in meeting. I tried to make conversation while she was at the slots but not much happening. Left and went back to strip club. Had a few propositions on the way but declined until I was ready to head back to the hotel. Watched some nice honeys on stage for about an hour. Then walks in my chocolate bunny from the casino. She sat around and watched me for a while until I finally asked her over. Intro was done (her name is Jennifer), bought her a drink and she did a nice grinding dance for me. Wanted me to take her back to the room with me and I abliged. $50 for the rest of the nite and a wonderful nite it was.
Man, Jamaica is the "Motherland" of the chocolate honeys in my book. Can't wait to get back there next month.
A Toda Maquina
05-04-04, 07:29
Hey pilgrims, are there motorbikes for rent in Jamaica ? And whats the cheapest anyone has seen FS, how about MP's?
Thanks,Chango
A Toda Maqiuna,
There are motorbikes for rent in Mbay. I'd be wary of renting a bike though. Jamaicans are pretty mad drivers. I believe I remember there was a place outside Club Xtatic that rents scooters and small bikes during the day. Sorry I can't give more details but I was focused more on the nocturnal activites going on there :-)
The girls would spend the night for around $7000 jamaican. (5k for the girl, 2k for the club). Not exactly cheap, but worth it IMO
There is an MP on Queen's Rd. I went during the day, but I was told, it's open 24 hours. At the airport roundabout, Queens Rd is the road before the Hip Strip exit. About 1/4 mile up the hill, there's a cafe/bar to the right, with a great view of the Ocean. The building to the left of it is the MP. The entrance is under the porch over the drive.
The mamasan gives you a lineup of all the girls there. There were about 6 of varying appearance, all in their early 20s. After the lineup you get a menu of various services priced in USD. They also have an option to take the girl the night for 100 USD. Sex isn't mentioned but it is definitely what you get.
I picked a girl called Kerry-Ann and paid for $80 for some sort of package. I ended up getting a shower with her, a decent massage, sex, a handjob and got Kerry-Ann off with my hand. It all lasted around 90 mins and I gave her a $16 tip. I'm not sure she expected anything but I was happy with the experience.
Lion Killer
10-02-04, 02:01
Montego Bay
Has no one been here since May 04? The last report was lame. Just a hand job for 80.00? Whats up with that?
I have a trip planed to Montego Bay in a couple of months. I hope we can see some reports before then, if not I will be the one that lets you know whats going on in Montego Bay.
LK
I have not been to the island for 8 years now. I am going back again in January and am briming with excitment! I always had a good time when I went to both MoBay and Negril.
I always spend my first few day's in Montego Bay, hitting the hip strip and my favourite place the Royal Palm (strip club). The Royal Palm can be kind of rough, very local, many times I was the only white guy in the place. Being the only tourist in a place has it's advantages though if you know what I mean.
I then make my way to Negril where the beach is beautiful and the women are sexy. I never have trouble in that town, just stay off the resorts and hit the local establishments, the girls abound!
I really hope things have not changed too much.
Here is a little sample from 8 years back
It looks like the picture did not come through, here she is.
Lion Killer
10-05-04, 01:57
Ramesses,
Thank you for your follow up. I do appreciate it. I know hip road and am staying in a hotel on the same road. I will give the board my report and hope it helps all. Thats what its all about.
Till then take care.
LK
Lion Killer
11-29-04, 00:48
First I would like to thank Rock Dog for his pics. Next I want to thank WU Warrior for his knowledge on Hip Strip. It was right on. Thats where the action was. I found it the second night I was there. Granted the first night, was really a late arrival so I had no opportunity to find out.
Bless you guys both, your an asset to the board. I will be sending my report in the next couple of days on my visit to Montego Bay, Jamaica.
LK
Lion Killer
11-30-04, 01:12
This report is for information about travel to Mo Bay. Arrived at the Mo Bay airport in the evening. The plane was almost full, so lots of people there, exited the plane in normal time. No problem heading to the baggage claim, bags came out quickly. Now to customs, about 15 to 20 minutes to get through, again no problems.
Head to the hotels info center in the airport, check in and after 2 minutes they come to transport us to the hotel. Total time from landing to hotel drop off about 45 minutes, not bad.
The hotel is nice, all inclusive, the attitudes of the staff are very professional. Its getting late but still lots going on. There is a fashion show at the pool, with DJ comentary. Next comes the toga party at the pool after the fashion show. Everyone is invited up to the disco room for the continuation of the toga party. Its open till 3:00 am and the party was good.
I had been here a total of 4 hours, and already, I have had 20 free drinks, food, fashion show, and ended with a sexy party in the upstairs disco. Not bad for the first night of my first visit to Mo Bay.
We got in late and there were mostly couples at the hotel. No time for checking out the local street scene. Its an exclusive hotel so they do not let in people from the street. But I have had a great time in just the few hours I have been here. As I said, 20 drinks, 2 meals, shows and disco's in the first 4 hours, cost, $3.00 tip to the airport driver. Not bad, life is good.
LK
Lion Killer
12-03-04, 00:04
As I was only in Montego Bay for 3 nights and one of them has already passed with just having fun at the hotel, I needed to make the most of what time I had left.
The day starts out busy, head half way to Ochos Rios for 2 dives. The dive center is at a family resort. We get checked in, complete the paper work and off to the boat. We don't travel far, maybe 1/2 mile offshore and set anchor. Complete the first dive with not special occurances, lots of current though, which is unusual for Jamaica.
Head back to shore, take a 1 hour break, get new tanks and off again to the boat. I have to remind the captain to make sure and bring some Red Stripe on board for after the dive, he did. Completed the second dive, same as the first, nothing out of the ordinary, but a nice relaxing dive. Break out the Red Stripe's and head to shore.
Back to Mo Bay, hit the resort, eat, drink, drink, drink, drink. There are regee dance lessons going on now at the pool side, mostly every thing happens at the pool side. These little brown girls have no bones, not a bone in their body when it comes to dancing, damn they are good & it was quite the show.
Next its off to Hip Strip, thats the name of the road where everything is, (including our hotel) shopping, restuarants, casino & Jimmy Buffets Margaritaville. We shop and stroll, stroll and shop. Hit Mararitaville for a few drinks then across the street to the casino. It only has slot machines and the winning percentage is about 1%, so if you go don't play much. But there is a nice bar, and band area there.
Its evening time and back to the hotel. Guess what, yep ur right, we eat & drink, drink, drink & drink. Total extra cost by now, aside from the hotel, about $20.00. I have drank for 14 hours and eaten at least 6 times. No charge. I don't remember what the theme was for the second night we were there, didn't matter, I have a vengence now to find the pussy in Mo Bay tonight. Its about 10:00 PM and I tell my fellow travelers I am off to discover Hip Strip & leave them at the hotel.
I will continue this story at a later date, I really don't like long posts. This is enough for now, but the night time activities for tonight will follow. Peace out as they say in Jamaica.
LK
Lion Killer
12-05-04, 22:43
Well its about 10:00 PM and I have managed to escape the rest of my party. They are going to stay at the hotel and enjoy the festivities planned for the night. Me, I am headed out to find the more pleasurable things Mo Bay has to offer.
With a tiny bit of information in hand I head down Gloucester Ave, known as "Hip Strip". For the first quarter mile or so its mostly tourist shops a few restaurant's and hotels. I was told that Margueritaville Bar & Grill was the place to be, its down Hip Stip about a half mile easy walk.
I end up at Margueritaville, sit at the down stairs bar for a bit, have a drink or 2 then check out the open air bar upstairs. There are two completely different crowds here I find out. At about 11:00 PM the down stairs turns into a DJ disco for young kids ages from what I can tell about 18 to 25. There are no tables, no chairs, just standind and dancing. There is a band upstairs for the more laid back older crowd from 25 to 50 years old. They do have tables and chairs & bar stools.
I camp out upstairs for a bit listening to the band, ask the bartender if any Mo Bay girls who like to play come up here, he says yea just wait a bit. Well I wait a couple of hours and no action at all. At least no P4P action. I head to the open railing facing the street, directly across is the casino (Coral Cliff Gaming Room) they have a band that plays there also. While I am enjoying my drink and looking across the street below, I can see what is now some action. About 5 to 10 street walkers in a 2 to 3 block area. Yo Mon, I have hit gold now. Let the games begin.
I head down stairs for a stroll, I walk across the street just to do some trolling. Walk one way up the block, get hit on 3 times, come back down the block and get hit on 2 more times. I want to do some more shopping so I just head up the stairs into the casino to kill a couple of minutes then head back down to the street to check out the other direction down the block.
Immediatly upon returning to the sidewalk, I see her, and the one I will fuck tonight comes running over. The chit chat starts, hi baby, how are you. Fine dear you? Good she says, you want any company tonight she asks, I respond maybe, we will see. The negotiations begin, how much I ask for BBBJ & 3 position covered sex. She tells me $100.00 (All quotes will be in US Dollars) plus $30.00 for the room. I counter with $50.00 she says I will do it for $50.00 but no room. Puzzled I ask, no room? She says yea I have a spot around the corner, no one will see us & I do not have a pimp who will bother us.
Not knowing Mo Bay at all, I really do not want to go around the corner, behind the wall and in back of the bushes for my first time, I decline the $50.00 counter offer. And opt for the hotel. Now the minor problem of this story begins. When I first begin my trolling a local comes up to me and says, I will help you, what you want, I just bullshit him along and keep walking. He follows me all around, till I ditch him going up to the casino. But when I return back down right before I meet my hot little chocolate bunny for the night, he is back again. As she comes running over he seems to think he is the one that set us up and wants money for his help.
We both tell him no, go away and start walking towards the hotel. He follows & now there are 2 of them. They are probably about 20 years old so I am not worried to much but he just wont give up. We stop the argument gets very confrontational now, voices are raised, I tell him fuck you, get the fuck out of here. I am loud and in his face. The girl is talking to him in the local dialect telling him she is calling her gansta friends and to get the fuck out of there or they will fuck him up. In a flash 2 guys in a car pull along side the road and she starts talking to them. The tell these kids something and they finally starts to walk the other way, the car leave and we continue on. Walking the opposite direction towards the $30.00 hotel.
But when the car leaves he & his buddy return again, we argue again and I really want to punch him out but decide its probably not the best thing to do, I am in his country. She gets on the phone again, and in a flash the same care returns, she talks to them, they talk to the punks. The punks finally leave again. Now we have walked way past the $30.00 hotel by now trying to get rid of these punks. So I decide to bring her to my hotel even I know its gonna cost me a pretty high guest charge. But for sure I know they will not let these 2 punks past the gate.
Its a good thing I decided to do this, we get to the gates of my hotel and guess who is there? Yep your right, its the 2 punks. I just grab her and walk past the security guards telling them those guys are bothering us and not to let them in. The guards take care of my problem.
I have rambled on a long time here now with this story, so I will end it for now and finish the sexual exploits of the night in my next post. Just trying to let everyone know what happened and to be prepared for things you may never think you will have to deal with. Always be prepared for the unexpected. But I have to hand it to Shanika (My date) she took care of the situation. At lease she bought us enough time to make it to the hotel with no problems. Day 2, part 3 to follow. Peace out.
LK
Lion Killer
12-10-04, 02:05
Ok, I have made it to the hotel with Shanika, she is a local from Mo Bay, my little brown chocolate girl. About 5'-2" tall with out heels, 36D tits, has a child 2 years old and still producing milk, 25" waist & bless her a 38" ass, tight, and not to big, but it sticks out just right. gotta love them Jamaican asses.
I check her in, we head to the bar, get a drink and go up stairs, no problem, thats what we are here for, she is a trooper. We strip, hit the bed, she starts with a very good BBBJ, balls included. I am playing with her big natural tits while she is sucking me, damn her nipples are over 1" long when they get excited.
We go to 69 and I suck that black/pink pussy, she loves it, grinds it in my mouth while she is still sucking my BB cock.
Now she pulls up, grabs the condom opens it and tells me she wants to give me a taste of Jamaica. She puts the condom on me, gets on top of me and starts a real good cowgirl fucking.
She fucks me good, great moves and pussy control. I pull her down where I can suck on those big tits, and let me tell you she is full of milk. Suck her milk from each tit, kinda different the taste, but if she is gonna give it up, I want to try it.
I ask her whats her favorite position, she responds to my satisfaction, DOGGY, hehehee, damn I love doggy. I tell her to roll over, she never misses a beat. Puts that nice chocolate ass in the ailr for me, and I enter her.
I start fucking her as hard as I can and she beggs for more. I am spanking her ass now while fucking her, and she loves it. Damn life is good. After a bit I roll her on her side and continue to fuck her in the spoon position. Now I have made it as far as I can, to hot to go any longer. I bust a good nut after 1 hour of fucking this little chocolate sweety.
We get dressed, I walk her down stairs to the street, we say goodby, say lets meet tomorrow. We will see. Thats another story.
Lion Killer,
Had a similar experience some years ago in Montego Bay. However, anal was offered. I did not resist. Much better than the Jamaican bubble butt is the Jamaican bubble butt with a fat cock in it. Set me back 30 bucks at the time.
Alan
Lion Killer
12-11-04, 22:53
Alan,
I could not agree with you more. I love a bubble butt with a dick in it too. But It was not offered, damn, well maybe next trip.
Day 3 began the same as day 2, hit the dive shop, got in two more nice dives. Went sight seeing for a couple of hours. There is some interesting history in Jamaica.
Back to the hotel, eat, drink, drink, drink & drink some more. All-Inclusive is the way to go. Head out shopping again with the crew, its our last day here so gotta get everything today. Pick up a few shirts, trinkets & lots of liquor. Actually paid $10.00 (again I talk in US dollars) for a liter of Absolute Vodka, just checked the store here, its $24.00.
Back to the hotel, eat, drink, drink, drink and drink some more. Its nearing 10:00 PM again, and my party is going upstairs to the disco for the pajama party. I ditch them again, and head back down Hip Strip. Stopped by Marguertaville, they wanted a $10.00 cover charge, beings I got absolutely nothing out of there last night I declined. And kept moving.
While shopping earlier, I saw a strip bar down Gloucester Ave. so I headed there. I think the name was the House of Dolls or something like that. You can't miss it, its on the left hand side of the road heading south about 1/2 mile past Margueritaville. I think the cover charge was around $5.00 to $6.00. Paid the cover and went upstairs.
To my surprise there were about 10 dancers there and 8 of them were white women. Now I am not in Jamaica to fuck white women, so I just get a coke and look around a bit. There are two chocolate dancers but not my type, they were talllllllllllllllll, about 6'-0" with heels. I like 5'-0" spinners. But there was the "room in the back" so P4P was available. I declined finished my coke and left.
Headed back up Hip Strip to see what the SW scene was. Went up the street once and back down once. Its early about 11:00 pm, did not see anything I liked so I went back up to the Coral Cliff Casino to see if anything could be pulled out of there. Lots of women there but no players.
Back down to Hip Strip, check out the SW again. There are now a couple of hotties out and really hustling as I walk by. Grabbing my arm, smacking my ass as I walk by. BUt I am beat, have slept about 6 hours in 2 days and did not feel like going through all the negotiations, find the hotel, ect, ect. But I did have my ace in the hole already just in case.
The taxi driver at the hotel had offered to bring me to a massage parlor last night where you could get what you wanted for a price add on. I just wanted to lay back and get my dick sucked, so I headed back to the hotel to find my cabbie.
He was there, we negotiate, he wants $30.00 to bring me there, wait an hour and bring me back, I counter with $25.00 and he grabs it. Off we go, up to what is called Top Road, its called Top Road I find out cause its the road on top of the town. You can actually see Mo Bay below as you drive.
We pull up to the Rejuvination Center, thats the actual name of the massage parlor. I tell him to come in with me, I really don't know how things work here. He says no problem. We walk in and find ourselves standing on what seems to be a balcony. The Madaam comes over and asks what I want. I tell her massage. She tells this one girl to go down stairs and tell the girls to roll call.
Momma tells me to remember the name of the one you like. One by one a girl comes out from behind a curtain below, looks up, tells her name and disapears. There is quite a selection. About 12 came through, and it was a nice selection. I chose the one I liked, she came upstairs. The Madaam handed me a menu to choose the type of massage I wanted. Knowing the rules from parlors around the world I grabbed the cheapest one, $30.00. Off we go to the room.
I strip, she strips, a little chocolate bunny my type, 5'-0" 115 lbs, and nice butt. She tell me roll on my stomach and starts a typical massage, nothing to write home about. We chit chat and finally get into asking if she offers other services that are not on the menu. She said sure, what would you like.
Like I said I am dead tired and all I want to do is lay back and get my dick sucked. I ask her how much for full service to check the pricing she quotes me $100.00, I tell her I don't have that much cash (they did take visa, hahhaa). So I said I only have $50.00 she offered CBJTC for that amount. I took it, I just want to nut and sleep.
She was very good, nice approach, nice lips. Let me play with her tits all I wanted and also play with her pussy as long as I did not try to enter her with my fingers. I made her work for it, took a full 30 minutes of sucking before I did cum. After she brought out warm towels, cleaned me up and laid next to me allowing me to play with her nice bubble Jamaican ass. Lightly spanking and running. Five minutes later, we dress, kiss, and leave the room.
My cabbie is there waiting for me as promised. Off to the hotel we go. Its 2:00 AM and again have to be up at 6:00 AM to get ready to leave. I had a great time. Flight & All-Inclusive hotel, 3 nights = $690.00. Fucking, licking, spanking & getting sucked by beautiful brown island girls "Priceless". I will return.
LK
I am going there next, I guess you are talking about little place on hill overlooking the HIP strip.
Have you heard of any new places over there?
Lion Killer
03-19-05, 00:28
Yardy,
Thats the only massage place I went to, its on whats called Top Road, just ask the cab drivers at what ever hotel your staying at. They know them all and will be glad to bring you there for the fare and a tip to wait till your done. But negotiate the cost of the cab fare back and forth first & the cost of the standby time. Wish you luck I am jealous.
LK
Hi Lion Killer, it was fun reading your report since I know the scene.
I think though that in the future, you will find it can be much better than what you experienced.
Coincidently, this past trip I made it to the rejunvenation center. I just went for the basic 30 dollar special (hj). I figured that was better than a condom bj especially at the price.
I enjoy the stroll down to the hip strip at night too. But I generally don't bite there.
I switched over to Negril most of the time now.
Lion Killer
04-10-05, 01:00
Thanks for your comments, all are appreciated. But I went to Montego Bay by myself, the board had no information. I found the places by myself, and being my first time there I think I did ok.
I loved Hip Strip, lots of girls, lots of hotties, we all have our different opinions. I will return to Montego again, and next time I have my experiences to help me out. I will again visit Hip Strip, as I stay in hotels there.
Negril is to far away for me. Thanks for your comments. Take care and hope to see you in Montego Bay one day.
LK
Going to the club, but I want to get away when I am there. I am dying to sample some Jamican booty.
As I have stayed in the all inclusives before, I never had any luck with the workers on staff. Has anyone had luck with that, or was I just not asking the right ones.
Can I get away from the resort and find anything close by? I guess this is near Trelawny, what is that about.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Davegdb
Lion Killer
04-22-05, 00:06
Sorry Dave, but I have only been to Montego Bay. Wish you luck in your search.
Hopefully, I will have some good reports for you when I get back.
Boys, The resorts are certainly not the spot. This one in particular is very difficult to get off of and any any action is well over an hour away. If anyone has any advice, let me know, I am here for a few more days.
Davegdb
Lion Killer
05-15-05, 21:04
The only thing I can suggest is go to Montego Bay. Get the hell out of where ever you are at.
Rockhunter
07-28-05, 00:23
Anyone been to Hedonism III ? Worthwhile for a single guy?
No.
Ignore the fake posts about going there as a single guy, because it may be a hit or miss. I have been to both Hedo II and Hedo III with lady friends and I can assure you that it will not be a DR experience.
On the other hand, I have scored other chicks there a couple of times, but it was in an orgy setting when i brought someone to the party.
In short, it is not a free for all at Hedo, we just go there and have erotic fun.
Hello All,
I will be down in Montego Bay in about two weeks. I'm staying on Gloucester Ave near the action - will (as always) post of my experiences and discoveries!
I have always had "a thing" for Jamaican women. I think they're very sexy and very attractive, but to tell you the truth despite having taken nearly 25 international trips - I don't remember ever having slept with one. :(
(I think this is gonna change)
Any little tips or advice would be appreciated. I want to give a huge "shout out" to Lion Killer for his detailed and enjoyable reports. Great info mate, thanks! :)
cheers,
FORD
guys,
the pros in the montego bay area are all very aggressive and have their eyes on one thing only - money. as an anal hunter i have been conned more than once by women claiming that they never gave a commitment to give up the ass.
one thing, though, they have some of the most juicy wonderful rumps. see them in action at the go-go clubs and you can cream yourself just seeing them move.
it's not that easy though to get them to accommodate your cock in their sweet, fat asses. you might find to your surprise that it is the slimmer, skinnier ladies who would more readily take it up the pooper than the fat ass ones.
pussy is there for the taking for anywhere between 50 and 60 bucks if you don't play big-spender. but dont worry they will start at 100. negotiate downwards for all our sakes please!
alan
guys,
the pros in the montego bay area are all very aggressive and have their eyes on one thing only - money. as an anal hunter i have been conned more than once by women claiming that they never gave a commitment to give up the ass.
one thing, though, they have some of the most juicy wonderful rumps. see them in action at the go-go clubs and you can cream yourself just seeing them move.
it's not that easy though to get them to accommodate your cock in their sweet, fat asses. you might find to your surprise that it is the slimmer, skinnier ladies who would more readily take it up the pooper than the fat ass ones.
pussy is there for the taking for anywhere between 50 and 60 bucks if you don't play big-spender. but dont worry they will start at 100. negotiate downwards for all our sakes please!
alan
i for one, promise to do my part not to run up prices. no matter how juiced you are for a girl we all most remember we have the ability just to walk away...............;)
I have a question. Why does the Montego bay board have 42 posts and the Santo Domingo board has 1400?
Now don't get me wrong SDQ is still me favorite place on the planet earth but MoBay is awesome!! Great food, great drinks, great girls, great people!
So far my vacation here has been slightly different than Lion Killer's. My vacay has been smoke, smoke, smoke, drink, drink, drink, women, women, women ..........eat a small plate of jerk chicken.
I prefer to monegr in Spanish so this is an interesting experience for me but if you are limited in Espanol this destination may be the perfect escape for you. Women are everywhere, cheap and fun.
There is a place here called Margaritaville - this is a great place to explore for all you newbies, regular members and shy/nervous types. For all you "master" mongers avoid this over-priced, over-hyped tourist-trap at all costs. You are too smart to be taken in by this dump! This is the home of the $4.50 beer and $10 cheeseburger.
Get a driver and get yourself into the center of Montego Bay. If the driver tries to shake you down, "can him" and get another. They are also everywhere!
EVERYTHING is available here and cheap. So far I am paying absolutely no more than 2000 dollars Jamaican or about $32 for all night, and I'm being generous. All girls ask for 6,000 or $95, but just laugh and wave them off.
51 Market Street is the place. 22 girls available last night and that was a Tuesday!
Much more info to come mates...........
cheers,
FORD
ford, do you really expect us to believe this? i know you, and i know you always give an accurate description of a destination, so i don't doubt you for a minute, but the others will need pictures to back up your obvious altered state. you will be happy to know that i have included four destinations in my winter schedule so far, and hold tickets already to three of them. hey, have you heard about this paradise place?
Ford,
I agree. Jamaica is great. I always stay at the Gloustershire, right in the middle of the Hip strip.
Smokables are everywhere, but check out the rasta selling jewelry from a small little table on the side of the sidewalk. He is usually there with an old woman that sells fruit. He has some awesome herb and if you get to know him, you get the rasta price. I usually pay 20-30 US for more than I can smoke in a week. (and I am chronic)
Girls are everywhere. I have never taken a SW in Jamaica. There are too many willing locals for free as well as some hot touristas. Get the touristas high and all inhibitions fade away.
You have to understand Jamaican women to score with a local. The ones that come on to you are only looking for $$$. But if a waitress gets REAL shy around you and and quickly looks away if you look her in the eye that means she is interested. Sweet talk her and she is yours. They LOVE being complemented and get really embarrassed when you do say how pretty they are. The more she drops her eyes down when you sweet talk her...the better your chances.
I agree that M-ville is a rip off. It cost me almost US30 for some jerk pork and a few red Stripes. But if you get out of town and find a jerk pit that caters to locals you'll get better jerk and larger portions for around 5 - 7 bux including beer. But, M-ville is a great place to pick up touristas and fine local women. They won't let SWs in there and it is too pricy for the poor girls so you get the middle and upper class local gals...and they are the best. I found one that spent a whole weekend with me and she even bought a couple of the meals. She was a 21 year old spinner with a booty to die for. and yes, I plugged that too.
One really funny SW story. I was hanging out at the bar at the hotel and there were 6 touristas that wanted to go to M-ville but were afraid to go alone so I offered to escort them. We hung out there and danced and had a good time. When we were about to leave, they did the group trip to the bathroom thing and I waited for them outside. Well of course as soon as I got outside, the SWs were all over me. I kept asking them how much they would pay ME and they just laughed. So I told them that in a few minutes I would be surrounded by beautiful women that would all go to the hotel with me. They laughed even harder. Soon come my flock of tourista chicas and they all start hugging and kissing me and we head on down the street. For the rest of that week, all the SWs and street higglers gave me the big eyes and treated me with respect and awe. Oh yeah, I had 3 of the turistas that nite.
Jamaica is my favorite island. I love the culture and the people. P4P mongering is better in the Dutch islands but freebees abound in Jamaica if you play your cards right.
Pogo
if you walk down the hip strip, and you are alone, white, and an obvious tourist you will receive more whistles and "catcalls" than a blonde walking past a construction site.
"hello, my friend, "hello my friend!"
on the hip strip you will be asked if you would like to buy women, cigars, cd's, sunglasses, coke, crack, crank, "h" and just about anything that can be loaded into a bong pipe.........but here is a little move that i just caught onto.
"hello my friend, its o.k. man, i'm the waiter from your hotel"
now i've been here for 5 days and i have had a total of exactly one meal at my hotel. its was a plate of jerk ribs, with rice and beans, salad and a red stripe beer. i remember the waiter he was a tall guy named dennis.
since then i have been stopped by 12 guys all telling saying to me "hello, my friend don't you remmber me?" "i'm your waiter from your hotel"
i finally stopped today and asked "now, which hotel would that be?" the guy just smiled and said "its just a figure of speech, you know" (lol)
oh brother................:(
SW's - all over the hip strip Gloucester Ave. Start milling around about 8:00 pm out till around 3am. They start lining up from the Hotel Wexford near Margaritaville all the way down to Tony's Pizza near the turn for the airport.
Girls ask for 4,000 jamaican but will quickily come down to 2,500 jam or $40 to make the deal. Heavy rain last night thanks to hurricane Wilma, but still 50+ girls out and about. (negotiate, negotiate, negotiate)
SC's - The Club Las Vegas - located at 211 Market St. 14 girls available last night mostly 6's and 7's. No salida (exit fee to house) and once again only the toughest most resistant girls will hold out for 3,000 jamaican or $48.
31 Creek st. - local sc. When I arrived only 4 patrons all Jamaican sitting in back playing dominoes. 12 girls available many very raw/natural (unshaven) range from 5-7. They all ask for the moon (5,000 jamaican) but ask yourself "If this girl doesn't leave with me, who else is going to pay her these ridiculous prices?"
Easy to chop them down to 2,500 jamaican or less.
con't............
sc's cont. - dolls house - major tourist trap that (seriously) advertises on the billboard outside "white russian girls"
might be worth the $7 entry fee to watch the show - absolutely amazing looking women and yes the girls from europe are pretty incredible. two from russia, two from the ukraine, three from czech republic and two from poland. all gorgeous, all available but at ridiculous freight - $200+ usd to go for all-nighter.
opt for the jamaican girls onsite as a much cheaper alternative. i chatted it up with nikita (jamaican), pearla, rose and keisha. all sexy chocalate skinned stunners - very pretty. all four were in the 5,000 jamaican range ($62) but i passed was pretty pooped......:)
cont...........
Only tourist trap restaurant I recommend is a place called the Jamaican Bobsled Team Restaurant. (honest name)
Great food, not bad prices and very "hip" atmosphere.
Great coconut shrimp, jerk burgers and a full drink menu selection that goes on for pages.
I tried the "Cool Runnings" it is a drink served ice cold made with about 5 different rums, pineapple juice, orange juice and triple -sec. Had a few sips and told the bartender that it was pretty fruity but didn't seemed very strong.
Finished about 2/3's of the drink and had to go to the bathroom. I needed two waitresses to help me off the bar stool. (lol) :D
More later, info on casa de citas (city houses) tomorrow. The sun finally came out, hurricane Wilma has passed and its time to take in some sun.
The overcast sky's and rain might not have been all that bad , it sure does get friggin' hot here when the sun is out in full. (Might be time for a "Cool Runnings", the bar is just across the street) :)
FORD "La Periodista" out!
"Hello my friend, its o.k. man, I'm the waiter from your hotel"
LOL!!!!! I fell for that one once about 12 years ago. The deal is always, "Lend me 20 till tomorrow. I'll see you at the hotel and pay you. You can trust me"
When they try that on me, I always say "Hey, what about that 20 I gave you the other day?" Pay up or else." I'm pretty big and look like scooter trash so they usually backpeddle pretty quick.
Only the new guys on the street try that with me. I've hit Jamaica several times a year for the last 15 years or so with well over 100 visits. I know all the regulars on the street pretty well. I've watched some of them grow up and even know their real names.
Ford, did you ever get to go to PJs when it was still run by PJ? It's that outdoor bar just past Tony's with live reggae. That place was pretty rough. The hustlers went there to be hustled. They had the best jerk around and were actually the first jerkpit in Mobay. It was nothing but hookers and quantity dealers. Tourists were afraid to go in there, but the place was actually pretty cool. The rastas came down from the hills with their herb and guitars and would jam all night.
I'd go in there and treat whoever was sitting at the bar to some jerk and a stripe. I could feed a dozen people for a fifty dollar bill. I never paid for herb in those days. I'd flip a 20 to a hooker, just so she would sit with me and keep the others away. Never took one home though, as SWs aint my bag. (I'm a brothel rat) It was an easy nite for them and a relaxing evening for me.
PJ sold out about 9 years ago and they cleaned the place up for the tourists. It's still there under another name with good reggae and a cloud of smoke and seems a bit edgy to tourists, but it's not what it used to be.
By the way, the chinese restaurant right next to it is pretty good.
I'll be there in a few weeks.
Pogo
This is the phrase that comes to mind when one walks into 51 Market St.
51 Market St is a sc/mp/casa de cita/ techno-reggae night club. It is an all in one experience for only the most adventurous travelers.
I arrived last night around 10pm and immediately was introduced to four girls standing out front. After paying a $100 Jamaican cover ($1.60) I ventured inside. There is a bar on the right followed by a living room type sitting area. There were girls seated at the bar, several sitting on couches and three more in a long corridor that procedes the couches.
After the sitting area you walk down a short narrow corridor to the sc, dance area. Now picture this - sweltering hot room with only a small ceiling fan cycling the air. Billows of ganga smoke forming a cloud encompassing the ceiling, walls and air vents. A "sick' loud throbbing/pulsating techno reggae beat as Bob Marley wails in boom speakers from the back "I SHOT THE SHERRIF!" Six girls, no wait there's two more, o.k. eight girls, no wait behind the smoke there's three more, o.k. 11 girls or did I forget to count those two rubbing up against the bar polls , o.k. 13 girls and then the four on the stage......O.K. 17 GIRLS!!!, sweaty, pulsating to the rythm that absolutely drowns the ears with every drum beat!
I'm not sure I've ever experienced such total sensory overload. Two grab for my crotch, one rubs up against me while I'm straightening my shorts, two more are fingering themselves and pointing at me ...........sheesh!
51 Market st is something that every MoBay traveler needs to experience before he dies!
Unfortunately on Thursday, Friday and Saturday the owner charges a $2000 jamaican exit fee for any girl ($32) so if you don't want to pay the "vig" just hangout and enjoy the scenery.
I grabbed a cell number from a dancer by the name of Keisha. Tall, thin athletic, dark complexion 25 year old and met her about 12 noon today for an afternoon session. After two cupfulls and a quick rest - I'm out on the prowl and looking for tonights entertainment. :)
To sum up I have totally enjoyed my time here in MoBay. Though the girls don't quite equal in looks the women available in the Dominican Republic or certainly not like places in South America - I think Montego bay is a close, convenient and solid choice for your travel/monger dollars.
The girls may be 5,6, and 7's in looks but make up for this in attitude, personality and "freakiness"! The prices are also considerably lower across the board for everything!
Also, the people here speak English which makes Jamaica an excellent choice for people who are "Spanish impaired"
Try Montego Bay and I think you will find it is worth your time, your energy and your hard earned $$bucks.
cheers all,
FORD
Hi Ford,
good to hear from you.
nice reports; I always like to keep informed myself about countries were i never was.
Could you tell us a bit more about the general price level in Jamaica?? gasoline,food,supermarkets,hotel rates..etc?? Do you also have some lighter skinned girls overthere or only dark black?
All I know is that (if you are booking from netherlands,belgium or Germany) Jamaica is a rather expensive country to visit.
Is it true you can obtain weed?? Isit legal there? I hear the jamaicans make a nasty kind of weed.
cheers,
Johan.
Hey Ford,
Have you ever been too St. Maarten? I was wondering if MB compared to St. Maarten, because St>maarten is out of this world and the prices are very nice, but it seems that an all nighter in in Montego Bay might be cheaper. I was just curious if you could compare the 2.
Chris H
Cigarfriendly
10-25-05, 08:36
Planning a trip to MoBay for some golf and booty! Need some advice on where to stay. Actually, I prefer a nice clean, upscale hotel for relaxing and would rather monger somewhere else. I'm not interested in all-nighters because I can't relax with the stranger in the room. So, for mongering, short-time hotels would be just fine.
Are there plentiful short-time hotels in MoBay? If I do decide to monger in my own place, are there many "guest-friendly" hotels along the Hip Strip?
Last time I was there for just a night (no mongering) the cheap hotel I stayed at posted a sign saying, "no guests after 11 p.m."
Anyway, any advice will be appreciated.
Hi Chris,
St. Maarten will leave you with very high expectations. Montego Bay will disappoint you because the action there is far less pleasant. The Jamaican girls are very aggressive and money hungry and the houses are all grimy and dangerous.
It is also very hard to find willing girls who want to experience an anal bang. For me this is a compulsory part of the P4P experience. If it was not so it would be easy to find a vacationing woman and give her the island adventure of her life.
There is very little to compare. MoBay has more local action than St. Maarten where you will find chicas from the continent and from the Dom. Rep. SM is also cheaper.
Give it a try but avoid disappointment by expecting too much.
Alan
Hey Ford,
Have you ever been too St. Maarten? I was wondering if MB compared to St. Maarten, because St>maarten is out of this world and the prices are very nice, but it seems that an all nighter in in Montego Bay might be cheaper. I was just curious if you could compare the 2.
Chris H
MoBay and St Maarten is a whole different comparison. [Pro] girls travel from Colombia and the DR to work at Seamens Club etc on ST Mrtn and their bottom line prices are way higher. You aren't going to be sleeping with local girls here - only the girls that travel the "circuit" . St Maarten, Curacao, Aruba, Costa Rica, Panama etc.
In MoBay on the other hand the girls you are going to meet will be living primarily in the City of MoBay and the small surrounding towns. As a result you can comfortabaly negotiate $2000 Jamaican ($30-$35) for a few hours to all night.
Alan is however correct the quality in St Maarten is going to be considerably higher but not cheaper. I'll also admit that (how can I put this) "staying in control of the situation that your'e in" is essential in MoBay. Some of the clubs that I mentioned are "hard core" places and you'll need to "stay on your toes" (Is that enough cliches for you?) ;)
FORD
This was my home base in MoBay. The Hotel Wexford. Comfortable, stylish good food (not all-in), nice little pool, nice balconies and ABSOLUTELY the BEST location for the action! Right on the hip strip.
Barrinson and Stevenson are the two security guard/ bell-men/ doormen at this location (their first names) and they will keep you safe and can get you ANYTHING you want.
The "official" guest policy here is that guests in you room will be an extra charge of $15 a night, but don't worry about this. Tip Barrinson or Stevenson a couple bucks a day and girls will be appearing at you door every few hours. (NO extra charges and I probably had about 8 women upstairs total)
Hi Ford,
good to hear from you.
nice reports; I always like to keep informed myself about countries were i never was.
Could you tell us a bit more about the general price level in Jamaica?? gasoline,food,supermarkets,hotel rates..etc?? Do you also have some lighter skinned girls overthere or only dark black?
All I know is that (if you are booking from netherlands,belgium or Germany) Jamaica is a rather expensive country to visit.
Is it true you can obtain weed?? Isit legal there? I hear the jamaicans make a nasty kind of weed.
cheers,
Johan.
Hi Johan,
I haven't forgotten I owe you a pm on Caracas Venezuela.
Prices are cheap as soon as you get out of the "hip strip" Gloucester St area. On the main tourist area expect to pay $12 for crappy pre-shrunk tee-shirts, rip off prices for beers, sun tan lotion etc.
However, the more you venture towards the downtown MoBay area prices drop like a stone! Downtown Mobay can be pretty crazy and is not exactly what I would call safe but since I know you have traveled extensively I wouldn't be concerned. Its on a par with Ave Tiradentes in Santo Domingo for example. (Just keep your head up)
Girls are mostly dark-skinned. Weed here is powerful stuff, not legal but readily available (very readily) and tolerated in .....well......the Hotel Wexford for example! :)
FORD
Hello all,
I want to thank everyone for their pm's re: my MoBay posts.
I received seven (7) total pm's re: MoBay and I've answered every one now.
One other note. Check out www.airjamaica.com. This is a great airline and if you happen to be living near a city that has a direct flight to MBJ than you're in business! Throughout the year they offer phenomenal prices from places like Atlanta, Baltimore, Chicago ,Philadelphia , NYC, LAX to MoBay.
Some of their super-savers fares can save you BIG $$ and can get you in 51 Market St and scooping up an ebony beauty before closing time! :)
(This is a picture of Margaritaville Bar on Gloucester Ave)
Have a beer here just so you can say you went (it will cost you $4.50) but the real prizes in this town are for those that venture downtown.
Naked Gunz
11-14-05, 16:40
I must concur Ford that your info is great!. I plan to put it to use on a quick visit to MoBay early next year. I've never been there. If anyone wants to share a phone number to some stunners, -PM me- I'd be most appreciative.
MrC
I spent 2 days in early Dec 05 on the Hip Strip. Although I adore black Jamaican women, I was not impressed by the 25 hookers I saw at night walking the strip, and I did not partake. Short hint: forget MoBay, the beach parties at Negril are MUCH better.
Late one night I took a taxi to Goldfinger Club at 51 Market St, which Ford described so well. It was a dark sleazy little club with a brothel upstairs. 5 USD to get in, 10 USD to the house to take a girl upstairs, 50 USD for the girl. These are quoted prices, probably negotiable, but I didn't feel like exposing my dick in this joint, so I settled for some very imaginative lap dances. The quantity and quality of girls in this club rivalled the best all-black clubs I've been to in the USA, and the girls were very intent on pleasing the customers. Worth a visit if you're not afraid. But take a taxi.
On the way to Goldfingers my taxi driver had to ask directions from an apparently random guy on the street. This guy's woman companion, a pretty woman in her early 20's, proceeded to offer herself sexually to me. Wierd town.
The street hustlers are a real nuisance in this town. I got propositioned for souvenirs, drugs, women, etc at a rate of once per 2 minutes. Negril was much calmer and more peaceful, especially at the beach. And the Negril beach parties were awesome !! Next time I will skip MoBay and go directly to Negril.
Snake27,
Thanks for the little shout out here on the board. I'm sorry that MoBay didn't live up to everything you had hoped but it sounds like your time in Negril made up for that! :)
The pm's that I've received since I returned pretty much all ask the same thing. "Hey, Ford is there alot of variety in the women down there?" and "Hey Ford, I hear MoBay is a dangerous place, is that true?"
The providers in MoBay are Jamaican black women - if this is not what you're after then you should go somewhere else. As far as danger goes - Mobay is a seedy place but what one considers to be dangerous depends largely on your past experiences and past vacation destinations.
FORD
On my first night in MoBay, a beautiful and casually dressed black Jamaican women in her early twenties caught my eye near Margaritaville. I invited her to dinner, and on our way we passed through a group of prostitutes who made rude remarks, like "Hey girl, be sure to charge him enough." I asked my friend in a laughing way if she knew them, and she replied "No, they're prostitutes, mon. I am not a prostitute."
After a pleasant dinner I invited her to my hotel. She agreed but seemed reluctant and said "I can't stay long. I am tired and need to go home soon." So I made a date for the next day, and realizing she was poor I gave her 15 USD for her taxi.
The next day she came to my room and watched movies and BET videos for a couple hours. She was so pretty I couldn't resist, so I made my move and kissed her. But she was unresponsive and after a few passively received kisses she said, in a sad way, "You know how yesterday you asked me if I have kids ? Well, I have a child inside me now. I am 3 months pregnant.".
Now, I may be a snake in the grass, but I cannot take advantage of a desperate woman who does not consider herself to be a prostitute. So, I desisted and went back to watching TV. After considering all the evidence (which I won't go into), I decided her story was probably true. It was NOT just another MoBay hustle, although these Jamaicans are such experts at scamming "Jake" that its hard to tell for sure. I therefore gave her 100 USD. Yes, a fool and his money are soon departed. Luckily I can afford to be a fool sometimes.
We watched TV for awhile longer and talked. Then we went to dinner and her conversation opened up. She spoke about her life, her aspirations, her religous faith. She was bitter about her boyfriend who left her in a dire situation. She lives with her aunt and has demanded support from the boyfriend's grandmother. From what I've read, the extended female family bear the brunt of childbearing in Jamaica's underclass.
After dinner we went to my room and watched a movie. She enjoyed it because she didn't have cable. When the movie finished she went home.
If it was only a hustle, what was this attractive young woman selling in my hotel room ? Was she hoping a "rich" tourist would take her away from poverty ? Was she offering me a chance to perform an act of kindness and feel good about myself ? This probably wasn't the first and won't be the last time she goes to a tourist man's room. And I imagine some men would press the issue and she would acquiesce, if she felt the need.
On the rest of my trip I made sure to go with women who were obviously and explicitly in the game, the cold elite of their art. It was cleaner that way.
On my first night in MoBay, a beautiful and casually dressed black Jamaican women in her early twenties caught my eye near Margaritaville. I invited her to dinner, and on our way we passed through a group of prostitutes who made rude remarks, like "Hey girl, be sure to charge him enough." I asked my friend in a laughing way if she knew them, and ...
Dear fellow,I still have tears in my eyes, after reading your report but not for the girl's story but for your unjustified generosity.
I can understand that it is difficult to resist in front of stories of poverty, single mothers and related items but what you have done - I mean the donation of 100 US $ - will damage all us for the future.
We have to cut off with this tendence to OVERPAY a woman or making donation to the one who is able to tell us the saddest story.
A gift of 100 US $ is exaggerated even after a sexual intercourse in a country where an average salary is much lower than in the USA or in Western Europe.
With this behaviour now we have reached the absurdity situation that prices in the III° world are almost the same of US and W.Europe.
I read in this forum about overnights on 100 $ or Euro in countries like Cuba, Colombia or Westafrica where a decent monthly incoming is around 200 - 300.
Do you pay 1200 $ in USA for it or do you donate a girl 600 $ in USA just for a sad story of unwished pregnancy?
Dear fellow,maybe the girl's story was true, but imagine if it is an usal trick:this girl will be soon millionaire just watching tv in hotel rooms.
When she will tell it to her friends, plenty of Jamaican chicks will go around to cry in front tourists about poverty and sadness but just doing nothing about sex.
And if 100 $ are offered for nothing what will be the offer for something else?
Let's finish with all this.
I really see that this man know nothing about Jamaica. Giving a girl 100 US without knowing here, only after she told you a sad story.
Jamaica is buisness and if you can get money for free, they will do it. Iff you have 100 US and a girl is in need for money, they normaly also will give you "pussy". But if you don't make it clear, you don't will get it. Frist they tell you all the time, that they are a good girl, but this will soon gone, if they see, that have to do something for the money. And in 95% of the cases, they will do it. So don't be a foul.
A girl how is hanging around places like Margeritavillas and will go with a wihte man to his hotelroom, you can have them for money.
I really see that this man know nothing about Jamaica. Giving a girl 100 US without knowing here, only after she told you a sad story.
Jamaica is buisness and if you can get money for free, they will do it. Iff you have 100 US and a girl is in need for money, they normaly also will give you "pussy". But if you don't make it clear, you don't will get it. Frist they tell you all the time, that they are a good girl, but this will soon gone, if they see, that have to do something for the money. And in 95% of the cases, they will do it. So don't be a foul.
A girl how is hanging around places like Margeritavillas and will go with a wihte man to his hotelroom, you can have them for money.
......I brought several girls back to my room during my trip and we didn't even discuss money. After everything was over, this one girl "Rose" said "you know sir, my friends said that I should ask for some money for this."
I, of course, had every intention of giving her money for her time but I was shocked when it became clear to me that this girl actually came to my room, showered with me, slept with me and thought that she might be doing this all for free!
When I gave her 2000 Jamaican dollars she was overwhelmed! Thank you, thank you, thank you .... you are a very generous person, thank you!
2000 Jamaican dollars is equivalent to about $30 USD. :)
cheers..........
Ok, I consider myself to be properly chastised. I think my anecdote and the responses are nevertheless useful and it is not likely one "fool" will skew the world market. It would take a vast number of fools to ruin things. At least I did the rest of my trip "the right way" with professionals who provided good experiences for $30 to $50 (see my Negril report). I am admittedly not as skilled as some contributors at picking up semi-pros or non-pros, and am probably too much of a softy. Case closed, I think.
Snake,
It sounds like you are a good, kind and generous person.... but you got hustled. If she was for real, you would have got her phone number, address, met a relative and she would have refused the money. I have dated a few Jamaican women on my travels there and they have not only refused money but have sometimes even picked up a check in a restaurant or taken me home for a home cooked meal. Gifts of a new dress, a phone, a cd player, etc are OK. I once bought a set of tires for a girl I spent a weekend with. Not because she asked, but because I was afraid to ride in her car with the ones she had.
If they say things like "my friends say I should ask for money" the "friend" is usually a guy collecting from her and a few other semi-pros as well. After the first couple times they drop the act, become pros and just go for the trick.
Jamaica is the hot bed of hustle. here's just a few:
*Hey, mon! It's me! The waiter/doorman/security/etc from the hotel. Can you spot me a 20? I'll pay you back tomorrow. (ask them which hotel or ask them about yesterdays $20 they owe you)
*My baby girl is sick and I need $15 for a doctor visit. I'm really scared for her, Mon!
*Hey mon...can ya help me out? I haven't been home in a week. I lost my job and need taxi fare to get home. And maybe some food money for the kids.
*My babydaddy/girlfriend/husband/etc threw us out today. My kid is at school and I need to find a place for us to stay and some food to eat before she gets out.
And there are more. I have heard each of the above many, many times.
The only ones that will get me all the time is "I got the good weed Mon!" (only if it IS good) or "I'll suck your dick for $20" (only if she looks good) That's what I'm there for!
But Snake, don't feel too bad about it. Everyone that has visited Jamaica has been caught by a hustle of some sort although some won't admit it. It's part of the experience.
As for paying too much....I agree it does have a tendency to raise the ante if everyone starts paying high prices. However, I also find it rather ironic that we mongers will spend thousands to get to a good mongering destination and then ***** about being hustled out of a $2 drink or work our asses off to get a $40 girl down to $30. I do it myself. I could afford to pay the girls a few hundred with no problem, but I will bargain to the death for a $10 break or a free second shot on goal.
For me, it's not just about the sex....it's about the game and the hunt for the perfect professional GFE at the lowest possible price...no matter how much it costs to get to the game.
Pogo
I was looking to sneak in a mongering trip between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I had recently returned from Costa Rica and before that the Dominican Republic. I could not easily explain such a quick revisit to either one of those destinations on the domestic front. Then I spotted a cheap fare to Jamaica on the net. Like many of you I never considered Jamaica a great destination for our hobby. If you read no further ---- think again!
I checked the Mo-Bay Forum and what do I find but several reports from the venerable Ford, one of the two or three most reliable and savvy posters on the WSG or any other forum. I read three posts and immediately booked my flight.
I will follow this with several reports. Mostly reinforcing what Ford has provided. I won’t aspire to anything like his humor but will add a few observations.
Much of my experience is also relevant to the recent contribution by Snake 27 and the commentary that followed, so I will also weigh in on that.
The overall theme will be as follows: Run! Do not walk! Do not stop at “Go”! Book the next possible flight to Mo-Bay and you will return exhausted, sexually spent, very happy and maybe a little sad that you had to come home.
I took Ford’s advice and stayed at the Wexford. It’s a great choice. For me the selection of an Ocean View room was more than worth the additional dollars. The room was clean, had a safety box, a king bed and a balcony. Everyone on the staff is quite friendly but you’ll want to get to know the two bellmen in particular.
Their names are Claude Stephenson and Barrington Brown. Barrington will also answer to Barry but you will find either most quickly if you have their full names. One of the two is usually found on the steps or porch waiting to unload a car or taxi.
I have cell phone numbers for both of them but as you know phone numbers cannot be posted in a report. If you are actually going to Mo-Bay PM me and I’ll supply those.
Either of the boys can hook you up with Dean who drives a cab. Dean is also about 6’3”, probably packing heat, and is a good guy to have along when you decide to visit certain clubs that have been previously mentioned.
The Wexford is convenient to several good places to eat, drink, and meet women. The Pelican is right next door and has great local food at good prices. There’s a Burger King within 200 yards, Jimmy Buffett’s Magaritaville is a quarter mile down the “Hip Strip” which is to your right as you depart the hotel. The “Hip Strip” goes all the way to Tony’s Pizza.
If you turn left from the hotel you’re headed toward downtown Mo-Bay and a quite different world from the one tourists usually visit. There are some good restaurants including The Brewery and the Pork Pit. There's also a rip-off strip joint, a crafts center and if you walk a mile or so, a mall with some pretty decent stores. It has an especially good sporting goods and apparel shop.
If you are the same color as me you will most likely be the only person in the mall of our particular tint, specifically white. Oddly enough I felt much more comfortable in the mall or walking downtown than I did on the “Hip Strip”. That’s because the professional hustlers hang out on the strip and they’re not looking to hustle fellow Jamaicans.
If you dislike or uncomfortable being approached with every kind of offer from free "weed" to an all-nighter with Miss Jamaica 2003, or the services of “Big Rodney” who would like to be your guide and protector for your entire stay, the Mo-Bay scene is not right for you.
For my part, I rather enjoy bantering with the natives and if your final answer is always “No” they quickly learn to leave you alone. Word will, in fact, spread that you are a poor mark and soon the entire brigade of hustlers will realize that any “come on” is a waste of time. I learned quickly that Mo-Bay is a small town. Those who are interested know where you are and what you are doing.
In the next installment I’ll explain what I found to be the five sources of female companionship. One of these, in my opinion, makes Jamaica a real gem among mongering destinations.
Billy Bob,
Very interesting report so far on the Montego Bay scene. I however advise you that you should resist the temptation to use people's names on the forum. As you said, Mobay is a pretty small town where everyone knows each other. If word gets out that people's names are being used in a forum such as ISG there can be a lot of trouble for them including violence. Believe me, I know the place very well and you should leave such details for private messaging with interested world mongers.
Alan
Billy Bob,
Very interesting report so far on the Montego Bay scene. I however advise you that you should resist the temptation to use people's names on the forum. As you said, Mobay is a pretty small town where everyone knows each other. If word gets out that people's names are being used in a forum such as ISG there can be a lot of trouble for them including violence. Believe me, I know the place very well and you should leave such details for private messaging with interested world mongers.
AlanI agree on this one. I've been to Jamaica well over 100 times and indeed Mobay is a small town, especially along the strip. Either of these guys could lose their jobs at the hotel and a good job is often a once in a lifetime opportunity for them. If they get fired they will NEVER get another good job due to their work permit being pulled. (you must have a work permit to be employed in any tourist-contact job, even bellman or busboy)
Other than that. I look forward to the next installment! I'm heading to Jamaica myself later this week. Couple of MAJOR swingers groups at both Hedos this month. Should be fun!
1. Street Walkers
2. Massage Parlors
3. Clubs
4. Barry, Claude and trustworthy cab drivers
5. Everyplace Else.
By far the most interesting of these sources is number five. I found it easy to strike up a conversation with every female I found appealing whether she was a waitress, a clerk in a store, or with a group of friends in the mall. Not only was it easy to start a conversation but in almost every instance their was also a possibility for more - maybe much more. For me, this is what made Jamaica different from some of the alternative mongering destinations.
In order to make this manageable I will do a separate report on each of the sources, saving the best and most interesting (#5) for last.
Street Walkers:
Street Walkers have never appealed to me, but if they’re your thing you won’t be disappointed. A veritable parade of hookers march up and down “the strip” beginning around 8:00PM and continue into the wee hours. Some of these women are not native Jamaicans, though you should not expect much in the way of variety.
All of them have that unmistakable good taste in fashion, make-up, and haut couture that one expects from street walkers the world over.
I believe there are a number of daytime street professionals, but lacking the distinctive apparel of the trade they are more difficult to identify. Feel free to say, “Hi” to anyone of interest and you’ll learn quickly enough what they do for a living.
Since I’m not into SW’s I did not establish a price with any of these working women. My sense, however, is that you should be able to find something in this market at anywhere from $1000 to $1500 Jamaican, between $20 and $25 US. The asking price will be significantly more.
And a word to Alan. With all due respect, the names of the guys at the hotel have been previoulsy mentioned on this very thread. They were pleased when I informed them of the high praise they had been given and asked if I would also speak of them kindly. I will undoubtedly do and say things you disagree with, but in this case I don't admit to a WSG sin.
Really looking forward to #2, 3, 4 and 5. Let us know!
I'm curious though - where are the SW's from, if not Jamaica?
Wet Nose caught me in a presumption. I presumed that all native Jamaicans are black and, of course, that is not true. According to the CIA (and we can rely on them, right?) the population is 90.9% black. This means the remaining 9.1% is something else, and the two or three light skinned Hispanic looking hookers I cast my orbs upon could well have been native Jamaicans. They could also have been on vacation from the Dominican Republic, Cuba, or Puerto Rico for all I know. Mia culpa. I’m working hard on installments two through five and I promise to be more careful about jumping to conclusions.
I also have some fine photographs that match upcoming chapters but I need to figure out how to get them loaded on the post. In view of Alan’s legitimate concerns I’ll crop out the faces.
Billy Bob,
Your reports are not only great, but you have a very organized, detail oriented way of reporting- great job!
These are the kind of informative reports that make Jackson's board such a great resource!
Great work! :)
Primero. Thanks Ford. That compliment coming from you is like having Ted Williams compliment the way you swing a baseball bat. But I digress.
Massage Parlors in Mo-Bay operate pretty much the same as those in Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic. The girls introduce themselves then you get a chance to chat, choose, and decide what kind of “massage” you want from a printed menu. The printed menu includes taking the girl off premises. Always keep in mind that the printed menu includes a “hand job” at best. You’ll need to negotiate with the girl for anything more,.
All cab drivers will take you to a massage parlor if you ask. The cab driver will not only take you there, but also come right inside with you. That’s because he gets Jamaican $500 for bringing them a customer. This is the same amount the girl gets for spending time with you, which is why you’ll need to negotiate with her separately. You’ll experience more double dealing in a single Jamaican day than you will in a Milwaukee year.
I learned this because I had the good fortune to spend a day of my stay with an absolutely gorgeous and quite talented young woman I met at a massage parlor. I had arrived at about noon and had spent the afternoon and early evening getting my bearings and planting some seeds. You will learn later if they bore fruit. By 8:00PM, however, I had nothing lined up for the night and decided on the MP route.
The cab driver took me to one of the best known massage parlors which I believe is called “The Relaxation and Rejuvenation Center.” I could be slightly off with the name but it doesn’t matter. You enter on the second floor. Immediately you are on a balcony overlooking the first floor and you’re facing a curtain. Someone yells “client” and the girls begin appearing from behind the curtain one-at-a-time. Each says “Hi” and gives her name.
Once all of the girls have introduced themselves you can walk downstairs and chat with them. In one way this is a good thing because there were at least 20 women and all were well above 7. There were a couple of true 10s. If you like black women (and why else would you be in Jamaica?) this was a spectacular offering.
The downside is that until you make your choice all of the 20 girls hover around you trying to arouse your attention in various ways. While this is happening you feel like Prince Charming but you know that once you choose you’ll be less popular (with all except one) than a turd in a punch bowl.
My advice would be to take the girl who appeals to you most aside. Ask her if she has any “Won’ts”. In Spanish I call these “Nuncas”. If you want a BBBJ and the girl won’t do BBBJs you’re going to be disappointed. Likewise, if you like anal and she won’t do anal, its better that you select someone else. Ask all twenty if you have to.
Once the parameters have been established you choose the girl and now we come to my second piece of advice. Negotiate a fair price and get on with it. If you and the lady hit it off and you’ve been fair in your dealings you’ll quickly find she has a cell phone number she would be more than happy to share with you. You’ll also learn that she would be delighted to make your company when she is not working. That’s how I ended up spending a whole day with the kind of woman you dream about having in bed. The total cost of the day was $70.00 US and a meal from room service. She brought her own “weed” and shared nicely.
My guess is there are fifty massage parlors operating in various places. One of them is called "Wet & Wild". It’s out near the airport and much smaller than “The Relaxation and Rejuvenation Center”. During the daytime you’ll find three, maybe four girls. The girls are by no means in the same league as the larger place, but the menu prices are less and those of you who like to negotiate rock bottom prices will have a field day.
FYI for those reading Billy Bob's report...
Exchange rate: 1 USD buys 65 Jamaican dollars.
Thanks to Wet Nose for the monetary update. It is important because the price you are quoted for anything will always be in the currency most advantageous to the vendor. But I digress.
The definitive treatise on Jamaican strip clubs/bordellos has already been written. Ford’s description of The Goldfinger Club at 51 Market St was sufficient all by itself to lure this monger to Jamaica. I had vowed to visit regardless of what else happened.
For three nights I was otherwise occupied. Now on my next-to-last evening I carved out time to make the scene. The time selected was altogether too early (about 8:30-9:00). The number of ladies on site were many fewer than Ford reported and I have a feeling things were just getting started. It was also a Wednesday night.
The joint is exactly as Ford describes except that’s it’s more seedy and much darker. At first I wondered if they had electric lighting. The bar has about fourteen seats. Ten feet away is a door that leads either upstairs or behind a wall. The wall is comprised of 14-inch speakers that appear to be of a vintage somewhere around 1959 and sound like it as they pound out a throbbing combination of Reggae and Hip-Hop.
Once you sit at the bar it will be no more than ten seconds before you have company. Before a minute has passed the company will be touching your “privates” and inviting you to join her in one of the suites. Somehow the vision of what these accommodations would be like did not coincide with my idea of posh or even clean. As Snake 27 said in an earlier post. It was not somewhere I'd want my dick exposed.
Management wants a ransom for taking any girl away from the premises, and I had plans for later in the evening anyway. This visit was mostly to see if Ford’s description could possibly be accurate. It was in all respects except that on this particular night the "hostesses" were nowhere near the best Jamaica has to offer. By my standards the most attractive would have been a 6. But you can’t say they weren’t willing. Upon departure I had three little slips of paper containing a name and cell phone number.
Ford, of course, is a much bigger and braver dude than me. I took Dean (the taxi driver) inside with me, and in fact insisted that he join me for a Red Stripe. Now that I think of it he probably collected from management as well, but hey, it’s the Jamaican way.
There is also action down the street at Club Las Vegas. Unfortunately I did not get a chance to see what this place was like inside. We were planning to pay a visit but as we approached what might be called a "domestic dispute" was taking place across the street. A rather large woman and her "Main Man" were engaged in a lively and loud debate. He was waving a gun around like Barney Fife did when Otis acted up. The scene in general had provoked every dog for three square blocks into similar disputes and incessant barking.
Dean thought it best not to hang around. I was in agreement.
The joint is exactly as Ford describes except that’s it’s more seedy and much darker. At first I wondered if they had electric lighting. The bar has about fourteen seats. Ten feet away is a door that leads either upstairs or behind a wall. The wall is comprised of 14-inch speakers that appear to be of a vintage somewhere around 1959 and sound like it as they pound out a throbbing combination of Reggae and Hip-Hop.
Hahahaha, brilliant reporting!!!! Billy makes it sound like the jamaican version of the "Titty Twister" - the bar from that Tarantino horror-vampire movie "From Dawn to Dusk". Perhaps they should rename it, hee hee...
There's always a reason to read ISG, and now I can add Billy Bob to my list of favorite reporters! Keep em coming, Billy!!!!
Hi guys, would you recommend renting a scooter and exploring on your own? What are drivers in Jamaica like? Are there good road maps available?
Reason being...Jamaica is actually quite small and mountainous in certain portions too- which makes it really scenic and perfect for exploring. I'd also save on the commission to the driver for massage venues too...
There is little to say on this subject except to confirm Ford’s suggestion that you keep Barry and Claude (or the bellmen at whatever Montego Bay hotel you have chosen) happy by crossing their palms with a couple of bucks when you happen to see them. It took me a while to hook up with these guys but they were more than sensitive to my needs and requirements once we made contact.
A trustworthy taxi driver can also be a source of what you are looking for. Some of them actually have a list of women they can call. It is important, however, to be on the alert for the “Jamaican Double Shuffle” at all times.
Let’s say you are coming back from dinner around 9:00PM. When the taxi driver lets you off you make it known that you would not be opposed to having a comely companion for the evening. Chances are at least 50-50 that he will be back in ten minutes with a street walker he has picked up from “The Strip. You could have accomplished this yourself by taking a short walk.
How will you know such a subterfuge has taken place? There are two tell-tale signs that make it easy. First, he was back in ten minutes. If this is someone he had to go pick up, and she had to get ready it would have taken longer than ten minutes. Second, and most important, she will be adorned in the unmistakable garb of a streetwalker. In other words, if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…..
My sense is that, as much as I like these guys, Barry and Claude are not above this very maneuver if you are in a hurry. After all, they need only walk a few steps on your behalf. If you are picky in your desires you should provide them plenty of notice and all of the requirements.
In my opinion the most important thing you can do in Mo-Bay is eliminate the middle man. That will not be entirely possible so you need to choose the ones you can trust the most. Avoid like the plague “hustlers” (and there are a lot of them) who approach you on the street and offer at no cost whatsoever to help you find anything you might be wanting in Mo-Bay from sun tan lotion to an Amazon Princess. They just want to be your friend. Right, and I just want to be a Bishop. That’s what to tell them too. Tell them you are a Baptist minister visiting Jamaica in the service of the Lord. Watch how quickly they disappear.
PS: To Wet Nose
If I were going up into the mountains I'd plan on being in an SUV or at least a sedan. The mountain roads are pretty steep and not well suited to scooters. Keep in mind that this "little" island has at least one fatal traffic accident a day. This doesn't count the ones where people are maimed.
All that said, you can rent any or all of the above at a booth located in the parking lot at The Wexford. Thanks for kudos!
Hi guys, would you recommend renting a scooter and exploring on your own? What are drivers in Jamaica like? Are there good road maps available?
Reason being...Jamaica is actually quite small and mountainous in certain portions too- which makes it really scenic and perfect for exploring. I'd also save on the commission to the driver for massage venues too...Personally, I would just hire a driver. Jamaican driving takes a set of reflexes that requires a lifetime to develop. A scooter is fine for buzzing around Negril or Ocho Rios or even Mobay (maybe). But in the mountains I would much rather have a couple tons of steel around me with a good Jamaica driver at the wheel. Besides the safety factor there is also the point that while he is driving, you can enjoy the view while sucking down a Redstripe and a spliff.
Jamaica may be small by US standards but it can easily take a couple days to drive all the way around it. It's not like St Maarten where you can circumnavigate the island in an hour. To go from Ocho Rios to Negril on the main road can easily take 4-5 hours. In the mountains it is an all day drive.
Besides, the difference between the cost of renting a car and hiring a driver is minimal...maybe 20-30 a day more for a driver. Plus a good driver will know all the cool places to go.
Be sure to check out the South Coast around Black River. It's beautiful and still the old Jamaica with genuine friendly people an no hustlers. Peter Tosh's grave is around there and worth the visit. Also, anyone going to Jamaica should make a pilgrimage to Nine Mile to visit Bob Marleys home and final resting place. Beautiful drive and a very moving experience while you are there.
Pogo
We come now to the final chapter, the fifth source of what you are looking for in Jamaica. To me it is the most interesting because it centers on an aspect of the mating process that is lost when the prelude to sex goes something like this:
“Want a date?”
“How much?”
“A hundred.”
“Are you loco? How about forty?”
And on and on until either an agreement or a stalemate is reached.
To me negotiations are a poor substitute for “the chase”. I define “the chase” as the process of inducing a woman to have sex with you for no other reason than her desire to do so. Until I was no longer able to achieve that on a consistent basis I never gave mongering a thought.
When I began this series of reports I expressed surprise, amazement and delight at the ease of initiating a “chase” and bringing it to a successful conclusion in Mo-Bay. Perhaps my “solo un poco” Spanish is the reason, but I never found “the chase” possible in the Dominican Republic or Costa Rica.
I initiated several “chases” while I was in Mo-Bay. Four of them are worthy of a report unto themselves and those stories will be forthcoming. Two of the four “chases” resulted in success at some level, one spectacularly so. I’m quite sure the average would have been raised if I had a few more days on the island, but hitting 500 is not bad in any league.
Before telling you how this was accomplished it is necessary to reveal more personal information than I normally would. I don’t want you saying to yourself, “Sure, it’s easy for Billy Bob. He’s in his early thirties and looks like Brad Pitt.”
Au contraire! My days as a dashing rake with hair capable of being “styled” are long gone. I am on the north side of fifty and headed into the home stretch. Years ago some people said I looked a little like Steve McQueen. Now I’m sometimes confused with Jimmy Carter.
On the plus side I still have piercing blue eyes, and (thanks to running) a killer body for a man of my advanced years.
I reveal these details so you can read the forthcoming stories from your own perspective. Specifically, if you are anything less than fifty, moderately good looking, and in above average shape you ought to score more in Mo-Bay than Wilt Chamberlain on a good night.
And Wilt could score in more ways than one!
Billy Bob,
Great series of reports! Makes me want to jump on a plane tomorrow!
I nominate Ford and you for inclusion into reports of distinction.
Excelsior,
Mattrick
Billy Bob,
I am writing this from an internet cafe on Maximo Gomez in downtown Santo Domingo but I wanted to take the time to give you a great big shout-out for your fine work!
I want to thank you for being so generous with your kind words re: my advice. But, my friend your work has put me to shame!
You writing is informative, entertaining and humorous. All round great work!
Don´t forget Jackson´s board is an amazingly power resource. With its 150,000 members a positive report (or series of positive reports) can really "put a place on the map". Let´s hope we did this for MoBay and that the people we mentioned and the places we talked about can profit from it.
I can´t wait to see where you surface next, because I´m certain you will do just as a good a job in directing future travelers here as well!
You´re a real asset to this forum even if you look do like Jimmy Carter. (lol) :D
cheers all.............
Thanks for the nice compliment Mattrick. Even being mentioned in the same sentence with Ford is an honor. I’m sure both of us would appreciate your nomination. And Ford, I'm not quite done with Jamaica but next week I head off for Nicaragua and Guanacaste, Costa Rica. But I digress!
The best way to keep the four “chases” organized is to recount what happened on a day-to-day basis. Telling the story this way will give you a sense of the intrigue and juggling more or less as it happened.
I was in Jamaica from Tuesday around noon until Saturday at about the same time. That gave me four days and nights of mongering to my heart’s content.
Once checked in and unpacked I always go for a walk to scout the terrain and acquire provisions. For me provisions include wine and booze and a few munchies.
My first “chase” began at the store where I bought the snacks. Two women were working, and both were quite attractive. When I paid for my snacks I said to the woman who was checking me out, “Wow, what a great smile. You must have the best smile in Mo-Bay.”
At this point she turned her eyes away and giggled like a school girl. She obviously liked the compliment but was a bit embarrassed. I asked her name, and for purposes of this report she told me it was Anne. We conversed for a few moments and then I said, “Why don’t we have dinner tonight? I need someone to show me around Mo-Bay.”
At this point her co-worker perked up and began taking an intense interest in the conversation. “I can’t tonight”, said Anne. “I’ve got plans already”.
“Tomorrow night then.”
“Well, we’ll see. You come in tomorrow”.
“I will do that very thing”, says me.
You will note that at no time did she say:
“Are you daffy? Why the hell would I want to have dinner with some pushy honkie, especially one as old and ugly as you?”
She didn’t come close to saying anything like that. In fact, she said “We’ll see”. I took that to be pretty good work for my first hour in town.
After unloading all my goodies it was time for a walk in the opposite direction. Their is a big park right in front of the Wexford. You can start the walk to downtown Mo-Bay by taking a left and walking along a trail in that park.
When I began walking I noticed a woman ahead of me by maybe fifty yards. I was walking more quickly than she and eventually we were side-by-side, a coincidence at least worthy of, “Hi, how ya do’ in?” It turned out she was fine and wondered the same about my health. A conversation was thus initiated and we proceeded apace toward downtown.
We’ll call number two Brenda. On the scale of any respectable mongerer she was no more than a five but she did possess a very impressive pair of boobs. It was also clear that she was not a daytime SW. She was wearing a chino skirt, a very conservative cotton blouse and a baseball cap. In our conversation she revealed that she and her aunt had a booth at the crafts market which is between the hotel and downtown. Brenda, like Anne, was between 25 and 30.
It took about fifteen minutes before we reached the edge of downtown. I wanted to go into the mall to find a store where I could get my cell phone working. Brenda followed along and was right with me as we entered. The entrance to the mall was like Times Square on New Year’s Eve. Once inside I realized Brenda had vanished into this sea of black faces. In retrospect I think I know why, but at the time I just figured she had somewhere else to go. It didn’t really matter because I had no interest in pursuing the possibilities of having sex with Brenda.
Across from the store where I got the my phone fixed, or rather where I was educated on how to make it work in Jamaica, there is a beauty salon. As I left the phone store one of the hair dressers was leaning against the rail that looks down on the first floor.
Now this was a really stunning young woman that I could get real interested in knowing intimately. What did I have to lose if I tried to make her acquaintance? Nothing, that’s what! So I walked over and said.
“Hi, if you don’t mind I have a question.”
“Okay”, she said.
“Could you tell me why in the world I am the only white guy in this whole place?”
She laughed and said, “No I can’t.
I asked her name and we’ll call her Carol. We talked for a few minutes but she was obviously uncomfortable and kept saying she had to get back to work. I inquired when her lunch hour was and asked if I could buy her lunch the next day. She told me that she only had a half hour. No problem, I said, we’ll eat at the KFC across the street. She agreed with this idea and we set a date for 1:00 the next day at the KFC. Normally I avoid KFCs like I avoid gangrene, but this was business.
Feeling fairly satisfied with my day’s work, I caught a cab back to the hotel where a nap seemed like a great idea.
Careful readers will know that later on that first evening I ended up at The Relaxation and Rejuvenation Center where I had a perfectly wonderful time.
And I also had two "investments" on the line.
Moments after arising I was rummaging around the room trying to find the phone number that Kendra from the massage parlor had written on a little slip of paper. The plan was for her to come over in the afternoon, but I said I would call to confirm. Unfortunately I was not locating her number.
To ease my frustration I threw on some shorts and went out in search of coffee. Within a few minutes I was sitting in a place that would become my breakfast spot throughout the trip. The coffee might not have been as good as at the Wexford, but the waitress was an incredible feast for the orbs. This was a girl somewhere between eighteen and twenty who, depending upon the talent score, could have been Miss Jamaica. We exchanged no more than pleasantries. She was much too young for me.
After breakfast I returned to the hotel to continue my search for Kendra’s number and had no luck whatever. This was not good. The prospect of spending the afternoon with Kendra was becoming an obsession that I might not be able to fulfill.
Then I remembered the need to keep my other fire burning, and decided to pay a call on Anne. I walked down to the store and was greeted warmly by both of the ladies.
“So Anne” I said. “Are we going to have dinner together tonight?”
Anne replies with a series of “hems” and “haws” adding up to a negative response. Meanwhile her co worker has become thoroughly engaged in the drama.
“Go on Anne, go. You know you want to. She wants to. Ask her again.”
“She’s right Anne, you want to,” I chime in.
Anne is chuckling and averting her eyes.
“Okay, a drink then. How about a drink at the Bobsled after work?” says me.
“Oh, no I couldn’t do that. Maybe lunch”, says Anne.
Now this presented a problem. I already had a lunch date with Carol at the Kentucky Fried Chicken next to the mall. Carol was not only more alluring but I also believed a better prospect that Anne so the choice was a no brainer.
I did, however, assume that Anne’s suggesting lunch was an expression of some interest and thought it appropriate to make the nature of my interest expressly clear.
“If we went to lunch you would have to be back here in an half hour or an hour at most”, I said. “That wouldn’t leave us much time for the fun stuff. Let’s aim for dinner tomorrow night. Then we’ll have plenty of time for whatever happens.”
Having made my intention perfectly clear I waited for Anne’s response which was: “Okay, maybe tomorrow.”
As I left the store she and the coworker were arguing about why Anne had used the word maybe.
After catching some rays by the pool I headed back to the room and dressed for lunch. Then I headed out for my lunch date. As I was crossing the driveway toward the park I spied a familiar face. It was Beverly.
My immediate thought was that this was no coincidence. Beverly had been waiting for me to leave the hotel. If the situation were reversed I would have been accused of stalking.
She stood still until I was within a few feet and then said,
“I’ve been waiting for you.” I asked her why and her response was something to the effect that she was sorry we had gotten separated. I explained that I was headed downtown to meet a friend for lunch. She walked along beside me. As we approached the area where she works she asked if we could get together again.
I’m way too vain to refuse a woman who is pursuing me, and it has been many a moon since this phenomena has occurred. I was compelled to say, “Sure, I’ll meet you at Margaritaville at 5:00”. She agreed and headed to her crafts booth.
Carol was waiting for me at KFC. We had greasy special #3 and she wolfed it down like it was the last plate of vittles on the planet. I learned that she was new to Mo-Bay having been in town only three weeks. Her home was some backwater village that I have been unable to find on fairly detailed maps of the country.
By the time we were returning our trays I was completely intrigued with this woman. When answering questions she was shy and naïve but she was also confident and assertive in talking about what she wanted to achieve in life. Most important I learned that she did not have a current boyfriend or husband. We agreed to meet for lunch again on Thursday, two days away.
Beverly was waiting for me outside Margaritaville when I arrived. We had two outrageously expensive Margaritas and as they were being consumed I learned that Beverly was the mother of two young children and lived in the same house as the father of those offspring.
I immediately concluded that daddy would probably expect his dinner in the next couple of hours, and that the prospect of bedding Beverly for the evening was dim.
I did make bold to suggest that Beverly might want to come knocking on my door in the morning before work. She certainly knew where I was staying. She needed only the room number. I supplied same and an invitation but did not expect anything further would transpire.
When I got back to the hotel Kendra had called and left her number. I returned the call and we made arrangements for her to come see me at 11:00AM on the morrow.
That evening I met a lovely professional who came highly recommended by one of the boys. It was a fulfilling, but not especially memorable encounter.
In fact, during the whole time I was somewhat preoccupied with my future prospects.
Their will be a brief interruption before the next episode. I am headed for Central America tomorrow and unlike Ford I cannot compose while sitting at an Internet Café. The story will continue when I return in one week.
It's good to read this stuff since it is incredibly fun there.
I've been going there over 9 years. One of the first girls was this one I can't say her name. I mentioned her name once on the internet and word got back to her. She had a perfect ass and a bubbly personality, always happy and smiling. I went to her place once or twice but I prefer to lay a towel outside and fuck her outside. It was just incredibly nice but I was always squeezed in between others.
Year after year she could always be found when I went there, until some guy there grabbed her and never let her out again.
I can't say how many times I fucked outside in the bushes somewhere in mo bay since I could not bring the woman to the hotel because I had a woman with me at the hotel. There are some places there with grounds too and if you give a few bucks to security, they will let you go inside in the bushes with the woman. You just have to look out for these guys since they all seem to want to watch. I always enjoyed fucking outdoors.
There have been some wild fucking outdoors both in mo bay and in negril. Years ago, I rented a motor scooter. I picked up this nice skinny chick and took her to some park like grounds on the other side of town from the strip. She wouldn't let me fuck her without a rubber. So behind a tree, I had her doggy style and I was rubbing my dick on the outside of her pussy planning to shoot my load that way that night. She got so horny that she reached behind and grabbed my dick and shoved it in her pussy.
In Negril last year, I was walking on the cliff road and this real nice young woman, looking for action, I don't know where she came from, she was sitting there on some ledge and we worked out alet's do it. We went to this outside place nearby, and I banged the hell out of her. She was skinny and right around 18. After I came and pulled my dick out, she had gotten so horny, that she grabbed my dick and sucked it clean. That was like the first day of the trip and I neve saw her again. She might have just been pissed that night with her boyfriend and came out and ran into me and just got wild. What a bummer that I could not find her again and I don't even know what she looks like.
I've had quite a few experiences like that just banging the chick practically on the spot that I met her. I'm telling you as hot as the Jamaican women are, those from the 'west end" of Negril, whereever that is, get hotter than hot.
I met a guy there once from Minnesota I believe, in his 60's and much more of an expert than me. I would stand out on the strip with him in mo bay or around the park and he showed me that even quite young females were on the prowl. But he didn't fuck as much as me since I average four sessions a day. I spend more time fucking and less time courting than he did.
The pool of young beautiful women there is practically limitless. I get calls all the time here from there. I'm going back in April.
last time I was there, I was very limited in being able to get out of the hotel. So I basically had two women, one 26 and one 22 on an alternate basis, averaging two times each. That wore me out a bit. It got to the point of the sessions getting longer and longer. Even with that schedule and my limitation of not getting out at night, I managed to screw a total of about 7 or 8 different woman, and set up a few new prospects for my next trip.
Brenda did not show up at 8:00AM, nor had I expected that she would. I lolled in bed for a while and actually nodded off. Then at 8:20 the door slid open and within a few seconds she was sitting on the far side of the bed. She was attired exactly as she had been the two previous days. The chino skirt, and the conservative blouse were freshly laundered. The baseball cap, however, sported a different logo. Today it was a New York Yankees cap, an apparition guaranteed to darken the mood of any life long Red Sox fan. I was just waking up no less.
The first thing she said was, “I have to get to work.”
“That’s nice”, I responded. “Couldn’t you have gotten here earlier?”
“I had to get the kids off to school.”
She continued talking for a couple of minutes and I began to think that getting to work wasn’t quite as crucial as she had initially made it seem. This conclusion persuaded me to venture an idea,
“Why don’t you get out of those clothes, take off that bad hat and we’ll do what we can in the little time we have.”
Surprisingly Brenda proceeded to accept my suggestion and was under the covers in less than a minute. Whereupon she announced she did not want to do anything but hug and kiss. I took this to mean that anal intercourse was not on the menu,
This woman was clearly having the kind of approach/avoidance problem you learn about in Psychology 101. The closer she got, the greater her urge to pull away.
At this point I was of two minds. I didn’t much care what we did. By 11:15 Kendra would be exactly where Brenda was at the moment. It was thus a certainty that I’d be getting more than my share in only a short while.
At the same time it was hard to ignore Brenda’s enormous breasts which were now unclad and within easy reach. I decided to show my appreciation for these big, soft globes by circling an areola the size of a hockey puck with my tongue while lightly pinching the very erect and large nipple of the other breast between thumb and forefinger. It was apparent that Brenda enjoyed this activity and I was sure the next step was imminent.
Unfortunately it wasn’t. Just when I began to get really turned on she decided she didn’t want to proceed. I protested to the degree I thought reasonable, and told her this wasn’t much fun for yours truly.
Her response was simple enough. “Don’t worry, it’s going to happen.”
“Well it had better happen within the next two days because by Saturday noon I am no longer available for you to tease.”
She gave evidence of understanding this reasoning and then asked if we could take a shower. She was afraid that she had picked up the scent of my cologne and that her aunt would catch on to her hanky panky. Any remnants of my cologne were barely discernable at this point in the morning. The shower, however, was yet another opportunity to play with those enormous boobs. I made sure they were well soaped and very clean by the time we were ready for toweling off.
By the time Brenda had departed we agreed she would arrive again the next morning and make a heroic effort to be early enough for the deed to get done.
Then I glanced at my watch and realized that much needed to be accomplished before Kendra’s arrival.
First on the agenda was a cup of coffee and my usual morning encounter with the gorgeous waitress. On this particular morning she was no less beautiful and unfortunately not more than one day older.
Then I needed to check in with Anne to see if she had decided to join me for dinner. When I walked in the door Anne’s demeanor suggested that I’d be dining alone or with someone else. She was now in a quite serious mood and said that she had to tell me something. I indicated my eagerness to listen.
In doing so I learned that Anne was married, had three kiddies, and could not possibly be away from the house after 6:00PM without being suspected of messing around. Strangely enough, after telling me this major news she suggested we have lunch.
I thought this a perfect opportunity to make my intentions clear. I explained that as enjoyable as it might be to have a pleasant repast in her company, my real motive was a desire to engage in mad, passionate sex with her. I saw no way we could accomplish that during her lunch hour. I hate to be rushed. We agreed, however to keep the discussion alive on my next visit.
Then I hustled back and waited for Kendra to show up. She was only half an hour late, which I considered downright prompt for Jamaican time. She wasn’t in the room ten seconds before she was pulling a joint out of her purse and asking if I partook. Needless to say we partook.
Then (no surprise here) we get hungry and order lunch sent up. After we eat and consume another joint down to the very nub we proceed to have sex several times over the course of the afternoon. In between the sex we giggled a lot. I tell you, when you combine Vitamin C with high-grade ganja, and a beautiful woman in bed it makes for a great overall experience.
When Kendra left for work at 7:00 I went down to the Wexford Grill and had some incredibly good ribs. Then, since it was my next-to-last night I kept my resolution to experience the joint Ford had recommended. As I have previously explained it did not disappoint. But enough was enough. I was exhausted and after taking in the scene for maybe half an hour I was back to the hotel and in the sack by about 10:00.
Oh, one more thing. Maybe it was the "smoke", maybe it was my engaging personality, but Kendra never asked for the money we had agreed upon. I had no intention of cheating her so I figured I'd call her before I left town.
How did she forget her money?
Sounds like you are rolling along there.
One out of three is a little weak. 2 and 1/2 out of three should be the norm.
We come now to the next-to-last chapter. It has been my experience that “last nights” are often quite eventful. This was certainly no exception.
Also, to refresh the memory of those who are just picking up on this series, we are talking here only about what is available for free (though no woman is ever really free) in Mo-Bay.
I awoke from a sound sleep and become aware that Brenda was now in bed with me. Sure enough it’s 8:00 in the morning and she has kept her promise. This is good news! There’s nothing I like much better than “ripping one off” first thing in the morning.
Just as I was about to do that very thing Brenda says, “I have some bad news.”
“And what is that?” I query.
“I have my monthlies.”
Now I was really agitated. Yesterday she’s afraid and today she’s “on the rag”. Yes, it was a rag not a string. I made my displeasure apparent with a good deal of gusto. This outburst was sufficient to induce Brenda into a moderately enthusiastic BBBJ but I was nonetheless too cranky about “the monthlies” to reach a climax. After ten minutes or so Brenda and I showered for the second straight day and agreed to be in touch the next time I visited.
It turned out to be a good thing I did not waste an orgasm. I now know that Brenda is not in any plans I have for the future. The effort, however, was not a total loss.
I then proceed to my usual morning stop for a quick coffee and juice. The same girl who had served me these past three days looked more gorgeous than ever. Let’s call her Diana. I figured she was maybe 19, but no way a day older.
On this day I sat with two local guys and we got to talking about the very point I have been making in this series of reports, namely how willing Jamaican woman seem to be to go out with old and pale strangers, or at least consider the idea.
They agreed with my observation and when I mentioned how lovely Diana was they suggested that I ask her out. I said, “Are you shitting me?”. “I’m old enough to be her grandfather let alone her father.” They said it would not matter. I bet them each $100 Jamaican that it would.
When she came by with a coffee refill I said, “Diana, I have three questions for you. First, are you married? (I’d learned at least one lesson by now) Second do you have a boyfriend?” She says, “No to both, what’s the third?”
“Want to have dinner with me tonight?”
“Sure”, she said. Then she added, “Can I bring my girlfriend?” I said, “I’m not sure I can handle two beautiful Jamaican woman at once”.
Then, honest to God, she said, “Don’t worry we’ll take care of all your needs”.
She told me she gets out of work at 3:30, and we agreed I would pick her and the friend up at the restaurant at that time. Then I paid off my J $100 bet and departed after leaving Diana a nice tip.
On this, my last full day, I was obligated to check out some real estate for a friend. This involved a sixty-mile taxi ride with Dean. Automobile travel in Jamaica is always dicey and this day proved no different. Somebody had run smack into a tree that was fifty yards off the road and was either well dead or very unhealthy as a result. Another doped out rasta banged into a bull weighing about a ton. It was not a good day for either the deceased bull or the driver of the unguided missile.
Both mishaps caused long traffic jams with all the attendant blasting of horns and native angst. We eventually made it back to the hotel by mid-afternoon, time enough for me to shower and get ready for my date with Diana and her friend.
But wait. I also had a dinner date with Carol. Despite the prospect of a duet with Diana and company their was no way I was going to be a “no show” for Carol. The chemistry had been too good. It might have been fun to see if Diana and her friend showed up but that was altogether too much temptation. I decided to wait until the appointed hour with Carol.
During this hiatus I called Kendra and reminded her that she had not collected the fee we had agreed upon for her services the previous day.
"Forget it", she said. "I had a nice time. You call me the next time you are in Mo-Bay and we'll do it again." I agreed but have subsequently sent her some great pictures of herself and enclosed a whole twenty dollars in the envelope.
Carol was at Margaritaville before me and was waiting outside. We grabbed a table and she ordered a Coke. Two or three cokes later and the same amount of Margaritas for me the conversation was going so well I felt confident to suggest we go to my room to “freshen up” before dinner. She agreed.
Once in the room I put my arms on her shoulders and kissed her. It was a “testing the waters” kiss. You know, just a hint of tongue. Then, in one of those magic moments you never forget it turned into much, much more. Bells went off, fireworks soared, and the first notes of Beethoven’s Fifth blasted into my brain.
She melted into my arms and clothes were flying in every direction. What followed was two hours of the most amazing sex I have ever had. At times it became an outer body experience where I as watching myself in a porno flick.
I have always thought about, and I bet you have too, the studs in those movies who last so long. Well in the porn flicks they simply repeat the same footage over and over. What was happening now was an overwhelming desire on my part to make this last as long as possible; forever if possible.
She was incredible! She would move from one position to another with the grace of a ballerina. This was not a series of “positions” but a symphony of sex with one movement following the next in perfect harmony. Everything she did was exactly the way I like it. No instructions were necessary. Before I needed to say “Lick my balls,” she was licking my balls. Just as I was wanting her in reverse cowgirl she flowed into reverse cowgirl.
Meanwhile my enthusiasm and elation were having a similar effect on Carol. Her clit and nearby regions had attracted plenty of tongue attention. The result was multiple orgasms that were absolutely, undeniably the real deal. The contractions and my wet face were more than sufficient proof.
At about 9:00 there was a slight pause. She looked at me and said, “Billy Bob, I am so hungry,” “Of course,” I said, “We were supposed to eat. Let’s go.” Happily I had not yet had an orgasm because their was much more to come.
As part of the overall assignation plan my intention had been to take Carol to a very nice restaurant. The fact that success was achieved before dinner did not seem like any reason to downgrade the cuisine. When we arrived it was clear that the woman had never set foot in an establishment of this kind nor was she accustomed to the nuances of fine dining etiquette. Like using utensils, for example. When the appetizers arrived I put the napkin in her lap and replaced the spoon with the small fork.
In response to my questions she began telling me her life story. She was born and raised in a hill town that is so small it cannot be found on a fairly detailed map of the country. The nearest metropolis is Mandeville, and that’s about 20 miles away. If you know Jamaican geography this should tell you something.
She’s 25 years old and had been engaged for the past three years to marry a man from the same town. It seems that he had immigrated to the Cayman Islands and promised to send for her once he had established himself in a position of consequence. Instead he established himself with another woman and then married the lady.
Having recently learned this distressing news Carol decided to leave the tiny burg where she was raised and head to Mo-Bay, the Jamaican equivalent of “Tinsel Town”. Since she was trained as a hair-dresser she figured it would be easy to win fame and fortune in a matter of a week or so. Her purse contained less than a hundred dollars US, her life savings, an amount she thought would be sufficient for at least a month. At his point she had been in Mo-Bay about three weeks and the money was gone.
The good news was that she had found a job in the salon at the mall where I had met her and she had also rented a decent apartment using most of her savings and a loan from the salon owner as a deposit. On the negative side of the ledger she was making between $50.00 and $60.00 US a week and the apartment rent was $200 per month. I’m no financial genius but it seemed to me that this might be cutting things a bit tight.
As she was relating the story I noticed that Carol was again eating everything in sight. She ate all of the bread in the basket. She ate all of her appetizer and half of mine. I thought she might eat the napkin. Then she said, “Bill, you know tonight you fed me dinner. Do you know when the last time was that I had a dinner?”
I am embarrassed to say the thought had never occurred to me. It turned out to have been well over three weeks. In fact her only other sit down meal since she had been in Mo-Bay had been the lunch with me at Kentucky Fried. Otherwise it was junk food, bananas, more junk food, some cereal and junk food.
As dinner continued I learned a great deal more. Most of it is now between Carol and me and has become too personal for this or any public report. I learned that she was an incredibly naïve, totally sincere, and disarmingly honest person. Though my initial reaction to many of the things she told me was outright skepticism, I am now positive that everything was and is completely true.
There are several reasons for my confidence. The most important was “the airport test”. I’ll tell you about that later. Secondly, I have tried every trick in the book to catch her in some inconsistency or little fib. These efforts have produced not even the sniff of a lie.
After dinner we went back to the hotel and had more incredible sex until we were both exhausted. Somewhere around six I woke up and watched her sleep for awhile. Then, unable to keep any distance we ended up making love in the shower and then in bed. This time it was only about two and a half hours.
At this point I did not have much time to pack. As I was doing so she looked at me and said, “Bill, I wish you could just pack me in your bag and take me with you.” I wished I could as well.
At the airport she asked for a kiss before I left. It was a repeat of the one that happened at the hotel. Unbelievably I was immediately “turned on” and wanted to do it again right then and there.
I resisted in favor of “the airport test”. I walked away from her and went at least thirty yards inside the lobby. Then I turned around and she was walking away. I went out the door and yelled to her. She stopped and we approached one another. Then I slipped a hundred US into her hand, kissed her cheek, and departed. She had never asked for a penny.
Some readers of this long thread will now conclude that Billy Bob is both a sentimental sap, and a moron for paying a girl who asked for nothing. Others will feel deceived. Haven’t these last five reports been about what is available in Mo-Bay for free? Why would you pay someone who did not ask for anything, especially after buying her a lunch and dinner?
My answer brings us back to the very nice report by Snake 27 where he gave the girl money even though they did not have sex. It’s very simple. Sometimes you just have to do the right thing. Snake 27 could not have left that room, and I could not have left that country without giving something to the girl in return for what we had been given. And after knowing her I would have given Carol the buck regardless of whether we had sex.
Now did I inflate market? Will every Jamaican woman now expect a Ben Franklin from every American man just for showing up? I don’t think so, and I have at least some evidence of that.
It has now been two months since I left Mo-Bay. Carol and I talk on the phone twice a week. She has asked for nothing and yet I know that once the rent is paid not much remains. So, at least in this case, being fair did not induce undue or even a little greed.
In the next month or so I plan a return trip to Mo-Bay. My plan is to spend all of the first day in bed. After that, assuming I am still alive, she insists we go visit the family in Lower Cornbush Parish or wherever the hell she lives. I figure that scene will be something like a reverse “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner’’, but she is insistent.
So my next trip to Jamaica will not be a mongering trip. This does not mean I will stop mongering. It means that I no longer need to monger in Jamaica.
You've shown us how it can be done, Billy Bob. Anyone who can afford to travel to Jamaica and stay a week can afford the professionals, but why we all like semi-pro's and non-pro's is the possibility of real passion and positive emotion, not just a swift and cold liason. Obviously the money makes us more attractive, but the experience is still much more enjoyable even though it may turn out to be fleeting and illusory. I probably should have given it more patience like you did. FWIW, I've been thinking that in the USA there must be semi-pro action since large parts of the population live in nearly 3rd world poverty. I've realized that if you're nice, presentable (e.g. a mature Steve McQueen like you), and have some $$$, you can find a mistress. And so I now have a beautiful 21 y.o. African American girlfriend since last Oct (I met her in a bar in between booking and travelling to Jamaica). She's a lovely girl who isn't in Eros or Craigslist and certainly doesn't walk the streets. As she is much younger than me, we both know the limits of the deal. So, I might make it back to Jamaica sometime, but I'm not in a hurry at the moment.
Heading to Montego Bay next week for a few days and would appreciate any recent updates. Interested in best bars/clubs for daytime and nitetime action. It seems like most of the reports are recommending massage parlours and street walkers so I would really appreciate any updates dealing with bars/clubs that the ladies party/drink at so that I can have a relaxed beverage/conversation with the ladies and take it from there.
Thanks in advance for any info,
Pete
GREAT REPORTS Billy,
Any pic?
Thanks
Some readers of this long thread will now conclude that Billy Bob is both a sentimental sap, and a moron for paying a girl who asked for nothing. Others will feel deceived. Haven’t these last five reports been about what is available in Mo-Bay for free? Why would you pay someone who did not ask for anything, especially after buying her a lunch and dinner?
I'd only say that you're being a sentimental sap if the girl is a pro and playing you mercilessly.
But since she's not a pro, the relationship was not one of business, but one of more serious nature. So the money wasn't for the sex but for her continued survival.
Frankly I would have done the same thing too, without hesitation. Especially after the grand sexual acrobatics you shared with her.
If she really is who she says she is, then she's one in a million - congratulations!
Thanks and Update
NJ Pete. My reports originate from a trip in early December so I think you can consider the information quite current. The early reports and those by Ford that precede mine have the most hard-core information. I think you are looking for a club like you'd find in Costa Rica. Kamur, for example.
If you read my report and the definitive one by Ford on the Goldfinger Club you'll see that the Mo-Bay scene is quite different. If you can sit back, relax and be real comfortable you're a better (and much bigger) man than I am.
Thanks Wet Nose. So far so good. I talk to her twice a week and have not yet received even one desperate plea for money or even a hint that she would like me to send some. I’m going back to see her in three weeks. She seems primarily excited about having a lot of sex and taking me to meet the family. That involves a trek into the mountains to the hamlet where she was born and raised. I can’t wait to see the expression on Daddy’s face when he catches sight of me. I hope he is more understanding than old Spencer Tracy was.
Xaam 1. Yes! I have pictures, and I promised to post them. My problem is getting them sized correctly to meet Jackson’s requirements. I’m not exactly a techno geek when it comes to this stuff. I’m working on it. There will, of course, be no pictures of the lady I refer to above. Those are between us.
Thanks and Update
NJ Pete. My reports originate from a trip in early December so I think you can consider the information quite current. The early reports and those by Ford that precede mine have the most hard-core information. I think you are looking for a club like you'd find in Costa Rica. Kamur, for example.
If you read my report and the definitive one by Ford on the Goldfinger Club you'll see that the Mo-Bay scene is quite different. If you can sit back, relax and be real comfortable you're a better (and much bigger) man than I am.
Thanks Wet Nose. So far so good. I talk to her twice a week and have not yet received even one desperate plea for money or even a hint that she would like me to send some. I’m going back to see her in three weeks. She seems primarily excited about having a lot of sex and taking me to meet the family. That involves a trek into the mountains to the hamlet where she was born and raised. I can’t wait to see the expression on Daddy’s face when he catches sight of me. I hope he is more understanding than old Spencer Tracy was.
Xaam 1. Yes! I have pictures, and I promised to post them. My problem is getting them sized correctly to meet Jackson’s requirements. I’m not exactly a techno geek when it comes to this stuff. I’m working on it. There will, of course, be no pictures of the lady I refer to above. Those are between us.
I look forward to your next report. This country interests me very much. Friends have suggested visiting.
Many thanks to those of you have who have PM’d and or commented on the reports of my first trip to Jamaica. I have just returned from my second visit and happily report that my relationship with the lady I met in December continued as if I had never left. She’s definitely not a pro. She never asked for a dime. We had one minor disagreement. Apart from that it was the most incredible sex of my life, and among the happiest four days.
About all we did, in fact, was have sex, eat, sleep, have sex, eat, and have sex. We also laughed and talked a lot. After the second day she stopped counting orgasms and by the fourth day they had become veritable gushers. Apart from bondage and costumes (neither or which I am “into”) we did everything I have ever seen two people do to one another sexually.
Every so often I would wonder how a guy my age could be lucky enough to be walking around with someone this beautiful and having sex with her no less.
The family meeting went off as well as can be expected when you consider I’m probably old enough to be her father’s father.
As a reminder, the point of my extended series was that unless you resemble the Hunchback of Notre Dame you are very likely to score for free in Mo-Bay. Since I had already discovered my own ultimate fantasy I was not on the hunt.
One evening, however, an incident occurred that more than proves the point I have been making. My lady and I were having dinner and were joined by a friend of hers. She wanted to introduce us because of my intention to bring a friend with me on my next visit. So I was sitting with two women.
The waitress was a tall girl somewhere between 22 and 26. She was by no means beautiful, but she had a very exotic look. None of you would kick her out of a bed.
I tend to chat with waitresses (or waiters for that matter) primarily as a means of improving the service. In Jamaica this is especially important. Somewhere along the line I realized that this girl was more than just chatting.
At one point I said to my two companions, “Is it my imagination, or is she coming on to me?” The two of them replied in unison. “She’s definitely coming on to you.”
The three of us then had a discussion about why this happens. I am an old white guy who looks like Jimmy Carter. She’s an attractive young woman who works in a place with at least twenty good looking black men in her age group.
My two female companions told me exactly why this phenomenon occurs. You might think it’s because they see old white guys as possible bankrolls. That is not the reason, at least not the primary one. I have now heard the real reason enough to be sure of it.
My friend Alan once advised me to keep certain information about Jamaica to myself. It was good advice and I have followed it ever since. All I can tell you is that if you spend three days in Mo-Bay you’ll know as well as I do why you’re getting more than your fair share of attention from some really gorgeous women.
As she was serving dessert the waitress asked me whether I was married. I told her I was. She asked if I had a girl friend. I gestured toward Carol and said I did. Earlier she had asked me where I was staying and I had told her.
When we got back to the room Carol and I made love and then she went into the bathroom. Soon after that the phone rang. Lo and behold it was the waitress. She has my name from the credit card and she’s put it together with where I told her I was staying. She asks if she can come up.
Now as much as I like a nice duet (or trio as the case may be) there is no way that will fly with Ms. Carol. I am a very happy camper and I am not about to screw it up. So I suggest her visit might be a bit awkward. She says, “That’s too bad” and then hangs up.
Carol comes out and says, "Who was that?" I tell her, "the waitress." She is about as surprised by that news as she is with the fact that the moon is in the sky.
As I said when I began this series. If I were you, and liked black women, I would get on the next plane to Mo-Bay.
Gentlemen,
I will be visiting Mobay at the end of May. Are there any active MPs, or do you have to rely mainly on the street action? Just curious.
Trying clicking back just one page!
Billy Bob,
Sorry for my RTFF moment! I have gone back and read all of your excellent reports and those of all the other contributors. I will check out the scene and report back here myself after the trip.
Boxcc"
You'll hear that a lot.
PM me if you want more information on the free stuff. Based on my last trip I would discount the SW scene completely. The MP scene is quite good at the high end, but use your visit to check out longer term possibilities.
BB
Member #2001
04-06-06, 07:09
Billy Bob, your reports are truely inspiring. you give us hope old, and young alike that there are possiblities for mongers or any age.
I was wondering if anyone on this thread has any idea on how to get an apartment for a month or so while in Mo-Bay or Kinston.
I think I would like to go down there and see for my self what its like. I really am not a hotel person and would prefer to find an apartment.
Whats the going rental rate down there for a one room apartment down there. It can be in the enter or near by the center.
Husky Babalin
04-06-06, 13:41
2001,
I do not recommend Kingston unless you are very familliar. Personally I love Kgn., but I live here. MoBay is much better. Also you should consider Negril for long term rental. PM me and we can discuss. Kingston is only for those that know their way around. If its your first journey you should play between MoBay and Negril.
Enjoy!
I agree with Husky. No way I'd venture into Kingston. You can find scary enough places in Mo-Bay without risking life and limb elsewhere. Just check back to Ford's Report on The Gold Finger Club.
There are some great apartment deals in Mo-Bay. The Wexford has some apartments and they are going for less now than in "high" season. You can negotiate a rate if you call the manager.
I think I might be figuring this out. So I will add a few more in subsequent postings. Let's see if we can get a little publicity for Jamaica and Mo-Bay. This the woman I refer to as "Kendra" in my reports.
I'd like to start off by thanking Billy Bob, Ford and Lion Killer for their great reports.
I've been to the DR twice in the last two years, combining scuba diving and mongering. After reading your reports on MB, I'm considering heading there next time.
I'm form the East coast (Boston) and am wondering if you traveled on package Deals (flight and hotel) or made seperate arrangements. Does the Wexford have a website? Are any of the AI's girl freindly? Billy Bob..If I stay at the Wexford, I'll certainly look up those two doormen that you mentioned.
Once again thanks for all the good information. Feel free to PM me with anything else that you might feel that I need to know.
Sailor02
I'd like to start off by thanking Billy Bob, Ford and Lion Killer for their great reports.
I've been to the DR twice in the last two years, combining scuba diving and mongering. After reading your reports on MB, I'm considering heading there next time.
I'm form the East coast (Boston) and am wondering if you traveled on package Deals (flight and hotel) or made seperate arrangements. Does the Wexford have a website? Are any of the AI's girl freindly? Billy Bob..If I stay at the Wexford, I'll certainly look up those two doormen that you mentioned.
Once again thanks for all the good information. Feel free to PM me with anything else that you might feel that I need to know.
Sailor02
Hi Sailor,
You might try http://www.thewexfordhotel.com/.
The Wexford Hotel is nice but its trying to maintain a somewhat upscale local clientele so its definitely going to cost you a few $$. The "all-ins" are going to be a substanially better value all around but getting a guest into an "all-in" will be next to impossible. With the extra charges they access you or the amount of "tips" you're going to have to hand out to security - you're better off at the Wexford.
I went to Mobay on the way to Curacao. My trip was really for the purposes of returning to CUR but I got a good price on an Air Jamaica flight out of New York to Curacao that had a stopover in MoBay so I stayed there for about 5 days. I was glad I did, I had a good time.
*Tips- Consider going on Travelocity or the Wexford Hotel website the night before you leave and try to book a room. Continue the booking process right up to the point where it says "press this button and your reservation is confirmed". (this means you can be certain there is definitely a room available) But then don't press the button, back click out of the site and go to MoBay w/o a resevation and negotiate something at the front desk when you arrive.
A single is priced at $90 a night but I saw several guests negotiate rooms in the $65 to $70 a night range with the clerk at the front desk while I was there.
* Tips - Never pay for a double always pay for a single. Double rooms need a guest to arrive with you when you check in. The "guests" that you will be bringing in will be escorted up the back staircase by security for a $3 tip at night - your guests are going to be different "guests" - no need to pay for a double room. ;)
*Tips - Scour the www.airjamaica.com website for flight deals. I have noticed they sometimes they offer unadvertised specials that escape the notice of sites like travelocity and orbitz etc. Air Jamaica is a nice airline.
cheers mate and enjoy your trip! :)
Billy Bob,
I just saw you posted pics of Kendra. Very nice! Pretty face and very sexy, long athletic body. Nice! :)
Billy,
Nice pics buddy. Thxs and lets see more.
Thanks guys. I have a lovely picture of Kendra's "fingernails" that somehow did not get included because of my incredible technical ineptitude. I shall attend to this oversight when I get back from a trip I am currently in the middle of.
As an update:
You will remember the girl I called Carol. Well, gentlemen, she has arrived in the Land of the Free and the Brave. She felt "the distance was too great", so she wangled herself into some cultural exchange program that allows her to stay here while she trains to be a health care profressional, i.e. indefinitely. At present I am sure this means emptying bedpans, and making beds, but it's more than okay by me. And great for her. Getting any woman out of Jamiaca is a good thing.
She's far enough away for it to be a trip, but not so far it needs a lot of explanation on the homefront. I can live with this. Thanks Ford! This would not have happened but for your enthusiastic review of Mo-Bay.
Meanwhile, for me, Kendra is indeed the body ideal. Unfortunately there is this thing called "chemistry". She's weeded out most of the time.
Okay dudes, as promised, here's the last one from the series.
Anybody in town then? I am going solo but would not mind a wingman. I have travelled extensively in the world and look foward to seeing Mo bay. PM me if your around.
Anybody in town then? I am going solo but would not mind a wingman. I have travelled extensively in the world and look foward to seeing Mo bay. PM me if your around.
Sorry AP1st, I'll be back in the Dominican Republic that weekend but I've been getting a craving to go back to MoBay also, soon.
Have a great trip! (I'm sure you will) :)
my miss jamaica is now here. she's become a legal immigrant. and obviously easier to connect with.
that said, the idea of being in mo-bay with you and the mighty ford is such an appealing thought that i might just sign on.
if you'd like a phone number for the lady in the mirror send me a pm. i can't guarantee it will be any good. they run out of money all the time and have to change their numbers, but i do know the girl's real name and that's a good start if she appeeals to you.
Yes, the idea of tacking along with Master Ford mongering in Montego Bay in Jamaica and Santa Domingo in DR is very appealing.
Master Ford, care to set up a traveling plan?
Husky...are you a yardie?
I'll be in Jamaica in early July, but not sure the exact dates yet. ap1st...Ford...I'll try to keep your dates in mind when I schedule. If the timing works out right, we can get together.
I have over 100 trips to Jamaica, but haven't really done any mongering while there, but have had some good fun with local non-pros as well as tourists. Most of my mongering is in St Maarten, Aruba and Curacao. (I have a Latina fetish)
I have been to both Hedos several times and had great times there as well.
I usually stay at Gloustershire but will probably try Wexford on the next trip.
pogo
I'll be in Montego Bay next month and will be looking for some action. I wouldn't be able to take any dates to my hotel room, so I need to know where I could go that will accomadate me.
Husky...are you a yardie?
I'll be in Jamaica in early July, but not sure the exact dates yet. ap1st...Ford...I'll try to keep your dates in mind when I schedule. If the timing works out right, we can get together.
I have over 100 trips to Jamaica, but haven't really done any mongering while there, but have had some good fun with local non-pros as well as tourists. Most of my mongering is in St Maarten, Aruba and Curacao. (I have a Latina fetish)
I have been to both Hedos several times and had great times there as well.
I usually stay at Gloustershire but will probably try Wexford on the next trip.
pogo
...........hey Pogo. I don't have dates in MoBay. I said I'd be in the DR on that weekend, but I'd certainly consider a return to MoBay sometime this year.
"Practice your patois guys, on 2nd thought don't worry about that, because the girls speak the universal language - cool cummings" :D
Very good Husky Babalin, very good! :D
Fred A:
Not to be rude, but if you browse back maybe a page or two you will learn exactly where and how to find a your ideal vision of a Jamaican woman without taking her back to the hotel.
But the fact that you cannot do so is unfortunate indeed!
And Ford, despite the now resident J-Lady, I'm considering Cartegenia.
When will you be there?
BB
pogo, you must of had a gf in tow your hundred visits. But it sounds like you love ja. Now it maybe jas time to show you some loving.
Let me throw something out here, at this point I planning a punters party for members that will be in ja July 1st. Plan to have around 10 girls, none over 24 yo, and all ready for some fun and action. How many guys want to cumm?
"strictly sleng teng me a deal with! '
Practice your patois guys, on 2nd thought don't worry about that, because the girls speak the universal language cool cummings!
I do love Jamaica and while I have had a GF in tow a few times,I have also had some wonderful times with Jamaican women on my travels but have never paid a dime to a pro while there. There's too much good free stuff available! However I do want to try one of the MPs sometime.
I went to the Doll House near the Wexford only once. Found it lacking a bit. High cover charge at the door $10. Dancers were bored, didn't take anything off. Beer was around $5...ladies drinks around $10. Girls were all Eastern European. I did take one to the back room for a private dance. That wasn't too bad as she allowed full contact for $20. I am sure I could have negotiated for more services, but was content with getting my finger wet as she just didn't turn me on enough for more.
I did ask about taking a girl to my room...$300 for 3 hours. I thought about how much free stuff there is in Jah-land and also about how many fine young Latinas that $300 would get me in St Maarten the following week and decided that wasn't worth it either. Ended up heading back to the hotel with a Jamaican tourist from Kingston I met at M-ville so all was not lost (including my money!)
Unfortunately, I won't be there on the first but probably a week or so later. If anyone is around we can meet up.
pogo
Hi Pogo,
Count me in. Send me a private message with contact information.
Alan
Fred A:
Not to be rude, but if you browse back maybe a page or two you will learn exactly where and how to find a your ideal vision of a Jamaican woman without taking her back to the hotel.
But the fact that you cannot do so is unfortunate indeed!
And Ford, despite the now resident J-Lady, I'm considering Cartegenia.
When will you be there?
BB
I will be in the DR next week. Central America in September with "Fantasy" But I have 10 days in November open. Cartagena is nice, but the "touts" can be tough. ("Touts" - street seller/desplazados "senor need a pair of sunglasses, t-shirt, rolex watch?") They are even worse than they are in Montego Bay.
Was thinking of maybe doing a Curacao trip in Nov - with another stop off in MoBay? Always a thought.......;)
cheers...........
[QUOTE=Ford]I will be in the DR next week. Central America in September with "Fantasy" But I have 10 days in November open. Cartagena is nice, but the "touts" can be tough. ("Touts" - street seller/desplazados "senor need a pair of sunglasses, t-shirt, rolex watch?") They are even worse than they are in Montego Bay.
Was thinking of maybe doing a Curacao trip in Nov - with another stop off in MoBay? Always a thought.......;)
At my advanced age I'm immune to the touts. Not much I haven't heard.
My usual response to the Rolex pitch goes something like:
"¡Mierda santa! ¡Un Rolex genuino! Puedo comprar uno de ésos en Nueva York para 5000 pesos. Mas o menos.
I find the Jamaican scams far more interesting and complex. It's easy to get "taken" good. But if you lads who are headed down soon would like to be the "takers" instead of the "takees", get yourself a couple of unlocked Motorola RAZR phones from E-Bay. They need to be black. Your profits could well be substantial enough to pay for the trip. The Wexford at least.
So Ford, the Cartagena curiosity comes from Jackson's Photo Gallery as seen right here. It just seems like they have a higher percentage of incredible women than anywhere else. And yes, I've been to the DR & CR!
I could do something early in November. But your Jamaica idea is worth considering. Then I'd be in Jamaica cheating on my wife as well as my Jamaican mistress who now is in the US. How degenerate can one person possibly be?
hi bb,
cartagena does have amazing women. no arguement. i enjoyed my time there. the touts are like nothing on this earth short of rio!! i mean seriously!
you're enjoying a meal at an open-air restaurant and some guy will walk up to you and put a 6 foot long perforated board full of "knock-off" sunglasses right in your face while you're trying to take bite of food! as you waive him off and push the board out of your face another guy drapes a stack of tee-shirts over your shoulder. i mean infuriating!
here's another idea. airjamaica does offer (at different times of the year) "island hopper" fares.
if you are flying out of a us city that offers airjam service (ny, atl, chic, lax, balt, phil) you can fly to mobay and add an additional island to your trip on the cheap! this is what i did last fall. flew from jfk to mobay and linked to curacao.
have you seen some of the colombiana hotties on curacao? safe island, no touts, good food, comfortable beach vibe, pretty colombianas and dominicanas available and its an island owned by the dutch so all hotels are guest friendly - no hassles. you can even re-visit one of your little jamaican cuties first with this arrangement.
might be worth looking into. ;)
(or if you feel real adventurous consider medellin- my god what a place!!) :)
just my 2 cents................
Thanks Ford:
The most interesting thing about a return trip to Jamaica was the possibility of having you as the wingman. I’d feel a shit load more comfortable in the Club Goldfinger with a plus six foot honcho known to “pack heat” than I do with a whacked out Jamaican taxi driver who may or may not be on my side in the event of a conflict. You and I would have some party in that place, that’s for sure. They’d remember the evening!
Your Curacao thought is interesting. But I need to study the thread. I’m not about to accuse fellow mongers of failing to RTFF without doing so myself.
From the little I have seen it is clearly an option to Cartagena.
Frankly I have accomplished about all a man can in Jamaica. I’ll always have a great time there, but what with my Miss Jamaica now available on these shores it is less a challenge than before.
And I do like a challenge.
Actually the previous headline. "Food" was a typo.
I have always considered the island of Curacao a comfortable and welcoming alternative to mainland Colombia. Colombia is one of my favorite travel destinations but [candidly] I've never felt %100 secure there. Things have improved drastically however, over the past several years.
But anyway, this is the MoBay board and my tip is that AirJamaica's island hopper flights (as advertised) may be a economical way to expand your travel experiences in the caribbean w/o breaking the bank. :)
cheers...........
I'm heading to Ocho Rios this Wednesday (12th) for about 3 days and then to Mobay for a few more.
Any fellow mongers gonna be on island? If so...lets meet for a drink
pogo
Hey Pogo, you must be back by now! So what went down? Or in? And how often?
We're waiting for your report and maybe some pix.
Hope it was a great time.
I posted this on several other boards so I figured I'd post it here also.
I realize that the recent homeland security flight restrictions means you're going to have to put your mouthwash, shampoo, cologne, toothpaste and rogaine :) in your checked bags rather than your carry-on bags but did you see some of the deals American Airlines is offering to the caribbean this fall??
The deals to MBJ represents perhaps the best "bang for your buck" deal of any place in the western hemisphere out of a major city in the U.S.
Atlanta to MBJ..................$310 (plus tax)
Baltimore to MBJ................$302
Boston to MBJ...................$317
Charlotte to MBJ................$280
Chicago to MBJ..................$340
Dallas to MBJ....................$360
Miami to MBJ....................$228
NYC (JFK) to MBJ..............$272
LAX to MBJ......................$397
Philadelphia to MBJ............$323
Washington(Reagan) to MBJ$320
When you take into account the price of the girls down in MBJ there really is no other deal that even comes close to the value here.
(I think tickets have to be purchased by Aug 16th for trips thru December)
cheers, mates.................:)
Be careful out there
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,20157157-421,00.html?from=rss
Be careful out there
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,20157157-421,00.html?from=rss
Wow! Talk about a reality check. If a girl figures out that its more profitable to have her brother or boyfriend burst into the room and try to "strong arm" her client rather than wait and collect money for her service, it can get real scary. :(
Nice post Pogo. Good heads up!
There but for the grace of the Lord go all of us! I just hope my extensive, carefree reports on the joys (and relative safety) of Mo-Bay were not the sole inducement for this guy's travel decision.
My little honey (fortunately now in the USA) assures me Jamaica is "not a safe place". "You have to be very careful who you hook up with, especially the hustlers".
So if you want to play in Jamaica (and I still think it's a great place) go back to Ford's recommendation and stay at the Wexford. I think they are very security conscious and those two bellmen really watch out for your ass.
As for me, I still deciding between Curacao and Cartagena for my next adventure.
Great heads up Pogo. So how was your trip?
Scary shit. But how did the brother get into the room? And how come security did not see fuck all. It always pays to remember we are fucking hookers. And hookers are the same world wide. Only trust them when they carry a death certificate and live in the fucking morgue guys.
We have lots of Yardies here in England. Big, dangerous, mad, bad mother fuckers. I like Bob Marley, Rastas etc but those other guys. A few weeks ago, I was up Brixton way, near the station and I hit on some of the sistahs. Ugly as fuck and big Yardie dudes hanging around. Lots of Rastah pussy there but htey all want money for a rock
This kill the sex tourist shit happens in lots of places. The South of Spain is a mess with all the junkies living there (they blame it on the North Africans but it is the white trash junkies carry the blades). Then, places like Rio and Pattaya where dumbshits think they died and went to heaven (with 77 hardened hookers who look like virgins
Guys: when you play away from home, play defensively. That's what we'll be doing tonight at Ewood Park.
There but for the grace of the Lord go all of us! I just hope my extensive, carefree reports on the joys (and relative safety) of Mo-Bay were not the sole inducement for this guy's travel decision.
My little honey (fortunately now in the USA) assures me Jamaica is "not a safe place". "You have to be very careful who you hook up with, especially the hustlers".
So if you want to play in Jamaica (and I still think it's a great place) go back to Ford's recommendation and stay at the Wexford. I think they are very security conscious and those two bellmen really watch out for your ass.
As for me, I still deciding between Curacao and Cartagena for my next adventure.
Great heads up Pogo. So how was your trip?
Jamaica can be a very safe place IF you stick to normal tourist activities. Anything else and you better be careful.
I love Jamaica. I go there a lot and hope to have a house there soon. But I have never mongered there and most likely will not. I have had lots of fun there but mostly with tourists. I go to Hedo a bit and have fun there as well.
I have also dated local Jamaican girls but I prefer the more middle class employed types.
Most of the action in Mobay is SWs. I do not do SW's at all...anywhere. The Mobay SW's are VERY aggressive. I would probably only be interested in them if I was into Dominatrix stuff....they are naturals at that.
Sometime I might try some of the MPs in Jamaica if I can hook up with a good wingman. But other than that I'll stick to the legal houses on the Dutch islands, or someplace like BlackBeards in the DR for my hobby activities.
pogo
Many of our fellow mongerers cannot get enough of streetwalkers. I made my opinion of them quite clear in this very thread. I agree with you that the Mo-Bay Hos are particularly aggressive and IMHO downright ugly. I wouldn't engage a hooker if it would bring about peace in the Middle East.
So, putting hookers aside, I suggested four other Jamaican sources of what we all are looking for. I believe that if one uses normal caution and good judgement they are all safe.
While I think you need a good "wingman" for the clubs, (I suggest Ford) the MP's, especially the larger ones are safe and well run. They obviously have a good thing going and want to protect the franchise. You get to know the girl and you'll find she's available during the daytime.
Your best source, however, is still any Jamaican woman you happen to meet. In addition to Pogo's suggestion of middle class working women I would add girls from the countryside.
Assuming then, that engaging a hooker is unsafe anywhere and anytime, one can still enjoy all the bounties of Jamaica without undue fear of anything more than a sunburn.
Just returned from MoBay and here's my experience.
Hotel - stayed at the Gloustershire. Right across the way from doctor's cave beach which is a nice beach but $5US to get inside? ! ? Eh - went one day but no different than just walking 5 minutes in either direction to get a free dip in the ocean. Hotel charged me $30US to bring somebody back at night.
Food - jerk chicken/curry goat/oxtail and lots of provisions! On the strip itself I found the Island Inn to be good food as well as the pork pit for your jerk! I ventured in town and found a restaurant that was approx. 1/3 the price of the tourist traps and just as good quality.
Party - margueritta ville had some fine looking jamaican woman but fake hair/nails don't do it for me. The brewery was a nice party if you like dancehall/soca. Fun crowd and safe.
Pussy - well folks I was totally dissapointed here. I was expecting to be able to meet some nice girls (and some dutty ones as well). Here's my summary
- SW's - I had fun chatting w/ them. But didn't partake. One was very very cute though
- regular girls - I dunno I didn't meet any regular girls. Maybe I don't fit the typical tourist profile (middle aged caucasian), maybe I'm not aggresive enough, maybe it's a bit of both. Been to Rio and Havana and found it easier to meet 'regular' girls there.
- massage parlour - since I was only there for three days I hitup a massage parlour and YUMMY. The girls are very sweet there. However I let my little head do all the talking and I paid for it. $15 taxi, $130 for all night, $100 for the girl. I got 4 SOG's, BBBJ, nice ride, and a little sweet talk but there was no connection.
My question folks is WHAT DID I DO WRONG? I am willing to give Jamaica another chance. Maybe Negril next time?
Comments?
GD
Just returned from MoBay and here's my experience.
Hotel - stayed at the Gloustershire. Right across the way from doctor's cave beach which is a nice beach but $5US to get inside? ! ? Eh - went one day but no different than just walking 5 minutes in either direction to get a free dip in the ocean. Hotel charged me $30US to bring somebody back at night.
Food - jerk chicken/curry goat/oxtail and lots of provisions! On the strip itself I found the Island Inn to be good food as well as the pork pit for your jerk! I ventured in town and found a restaurant that was approx. 1/3 the price of the tourist traps and just as good quality.
Party - margueritta ville had some fine looking jamaican woman but fake hair/nails don't do it for me. The brewery was a nice party if you like dancehall/soca. Fun crowd and safe.
Pussy - well folks I was totally dissapointed here. I was expecting to be able to meet some nice girls (and some dutty ones as well). Here's my summary
- SW's - I had fun chatting w/ them. But didn't partake. One was very very cute though
- regular girls - I dunno I didn't meet any regular girls. Maybe I don't fit the typical tourist profile (middle aged caucasian), maybe I'm not aggresive enough, maybe it's a bit of both. Been to Rio and Havana and found it easier to meet 'regular' girls there.
- massage parlour - since I was only there for three days I hitup a massage parlour and YUMMY. The girls are very sweet there. However I let my little head do all the talking and I paid for it. $15 taxi, $130 for all night, $100 for the girl. I got 4 SOG's, BBBJ, nice ride, and a little sweet talk but there was no connection.
My question folks is WHAT DID I DO WRONG? I am willing to give Jamaica another chance. Maybe Negril next time?
Comments?
GD
Actually, you didn't do anything wrong. You found some good places to eat and party. The price you paid at the massage parlor for an all nite take out is pretty darn good for Jamaica. The Dolls House strip joint charges $300 for 3 hours for a take out.
My last trip there were actually some decent looking street walkers including one that was damn hot...but also damn obnoxious. Even saw a tranny, which is very rare in Jamaica. They are VERY homophobic and get violent towards openly gay Jamaicans.
As far as the local girls...it takes some game to get anywhere with them. It is not latin america where girls panties drop faster than the ball in Times Square at New Years. But it can be extremely worthwhile. They are generally pretty shy and you have to gain their trust and friendship first. Remember...you are from a foriegn land and almost anything you say will be interesting to them so just speak up, be friendly, smile....and then ask her out for a drink. She will guide you from there. It might take a couple dates to score...but when you do.....WOW!
Read and re-read Billy Bobs posts. He really grasps the scene very well. And Jamaica is a constant learning experience as it is totally different from anywhere else.
pogo
Look at it this way, Gimmedub. You had WAY BETTER luck than the last guy we read about on this thread who stayed at The Gloucestershire. He won’t be giving Jamaica another try, willing or not.
My contributions were never intended to be gospel. Although I do think you would have been better off following a couple of my suggestions.
For example, I would have stayed at The Wexford, as I recommended after reading Ford’s enthusiastic review. It’s great to have a couple of local dudes looking out for you in more ways than one. I never paid so much as a dime to get any lady friend into the hotel, although they do have a charge in effect. The boys took care of me.
And I think you missed my suggestion for spending as little as possible on your first visit to the MP, and then making a date with the lady for the next day when she can do and charge anything she wants. I also learned this lesson from one of the boys at the Wexford.
What surprises me most, however, is that you did not have success with “regular girls” by which I assume you mean every Jamaican woman not working in the sex trade. If you’re a middle aged Caucasian, I would be considered an old one, and at one point I was juggling four women all much less than half my age.
Pogo’s description of how this works is dead on. You cannot say: “Let’s fuck!” and expect the lady to reply, “You’re so smooth I think I will”. They love to be flirted with and even more, they want to be given the respect they feel they don’t get enough of from the local men folk, including their husbands.
You mentioned you liked the scene at the Brewery. There is a tall, good looking waitress at The Brewery who, I suspect, would have liked nothing more than to have a drink with you after work. Who knows what would have happened from there. It might not have happened that night, but maybe the next, or the next.
Other than that I don’t know what to tell you. Mo-Bay is certainly not for everyone. If you don’t enjoy the constant repartee and the hustlers, the craziness, and a certain amount of real danger you’re better off somewhere else.
But there is a gorgeous 26 year-old Jamaican woman now living here in the USA, half a day’s drive from my front door who made my trips to Mo-Bay quite productive. Everytime I see her I'm glad I listened to Ford.
I have been to jamaica a dozen times or more. Pussy is in short supply here best thing here is crime and white rum everything is a hassle and overpriced. I went to a resort on the west end of negril and ordered a cup of coffee I was shocked at the price ganja is good. Absolutely no transportation on Sunday so its a good day to have a rental car and take a girl out to the cane fields and bend her over from the rear. In the capital they have a wild strip club right near the big hotels to wild for me. Near Pegasis and the windham interactive sex here wild to stay if you have a guide. Since my last visit I go to the spanish islands where the chicks are all over the place growing up like weeds.
Hi gimmedub,
Just to review your post..........
You liked the food, found good quality and a place with good prices. You liked Magaritaville, enjoyed the atmosphere and found it to be safe. You chatted it up with the sw's and saw one girl that you thought was very cute....but didn't meet enough regular girls and you attributed it to the fact that your white and not aggressive enough. Is this the gist of it?
Let me ask you a question -on a scale of 1-10 what would you say your "fun level" was on this trip to MoBay? A 5? 6? 7? 8? ......and then tell me how much money you spent, total.
How much money would it take to have the same level of fun in Chicago? New York? Atlanta? Los Angeles? hmmmm?
How about in San Jose Costa Rica where the girls around the "Blue Marlin" and "Key Largo" bars all want "ciento" ($100 minimum) for ST.
I am fairly aggressive, but more so in S. and C. America where I can speak Spanish, but I'm also 41 years old (not young) and I'm white too.
Push the envelope a bit more next time, would be my advice! :)
cheers, and thanks for posting!
Two new reports since last I tuned in. What a difference!
Ford, articulate, analytical and as helpful as ever. The wingman you'd most like to have by your side
Then we have Donmobay. First , why on earth choose a name reflective of a place you've been twelve times and don't like?
Secondly, the main purpose of Jackson's Forum is to provide helpful information to fellow hobbyists.
Third, the total amount I have paid for sex in Jamaica is $75.00. That's TOTAL, over three trips. And yet somehow I have managed to have sex with at least ten very fine looking women, and induce one of them to move to the US so I could see her more often.
A full breakfast at the restaurant next to the Wexford is about $3.00 US.
Jamaican coffee is about 50 cents unless, of course, you're staying at a fancy resort in Negril.
I don't think Donmobay and the rest of us are talking about the same place.
I have been to jamaica a dozen times or more. Pussy is in short supply here best thing here is crime and white rum everything is a hassle and overpriced. I went to a resort on the west end of negril and ordered a cup of coffee I was shocked at the price ganja is good. Absolutely no transportation on Sunday so its a good day to have a rental car and take a girl out to the cane fields and bend her over from the rear. In the capital they have a wild strip club right near the big hotels to wild for me. Near Pegasis and the windham interactive sex here wild to stay if you have a guide. Since my last visit I go to the spanish islands where the chicks are all over the place growing up like weeds.
I wonder which Spanish Islands? Thanks.
Can somone give more info on it. I am thinking of going in 3 weeks. Alone.
2001,
I do not recommend Kingston unless you are very familliar. Personally I love Kgn., but I live here. MoBay is much better. Also you should consider Negril for long term rental. PM me and we can discuss. Kingston is only for those that know their way around. If its your first journey you should play between MoBay and Negril.
Enjoy!
It will not allow me to PM you for some reason. Says you are not accepting them. Any ideas, email?
Salsero Loco
10-25-06, 19:20
Had a long layover in Montego Bay the other day and decided to kill some time getting a nice massage. I was a little nervous since I couldn't check my bags anywhere, and was carrying loads of cash for Cuba, but I went anyway-- and was really glad I did! Asked a cab driver about the rejuvenating center I had read about on this forum, on Top Road. Turns out the place was probably a ten minute walk from the airport though I ended up paying $10 for the cab. Oh well...
The place is a house in a pretty nice, safe area of Montego Bay. Got the usual massage parlor routine of girls coming out to introduce themselves one at a time and most of them were really nice looking with three or four eights and nines. It was hard to pick one!!
Ended up picking a thin beauty with large natural breasts. Price was $50 (US currency) for an hour massage with HJ. For another $100 I got really nice sex with DATY, BBBJ, etc. Really great time.
This was a lot more than I like to pay, but again I had only a few hours in M Bay. But even then, I saw lots of sexy, sweet women walking around. The place definitely merits further research for this monger.
SL
I Jags:
Sorry to be rude but if you go back three or four pages both Ford and yours truly provide extensive information on the Wexfod.
Great report Salsero Loco. If you had a little more time, that same girl would have spent the day with you for $75.00. She got next to nothing of your contribution to the Rejuvenation Center.
Robert Lee
10-27-06, 12:17
Had a long layover in Montego Bay the other day and decided to kill some time getting a nice massage. I was a little nervous since I couldn't check my bags anywhere, and was carrying loads of cash for Cuba, but I went anyway-- and was really glad I did! Asked a cab driver about the rejuvenating center I had read about on this forum, on Top Road. Turns out the place was probably a ten minute walk from the airport though I ended up paying $10 for the cab. Oh well...
The place is a house in a pretty nice, safe area of Montego Bay. Got the usual massage parlor routine of girls coming out to introduce themselves one at a time and most of them were really nice looking with three or four eights and nines. It was hard to pick one!!
Ended up picking a thin beauty with large natural breasts. Price was $50 (US currency) for an hour massage with HJ. For another $100 I got really nice sex with DATY, BBBJ, etc. Really great time.
This was a lot more than I like to pay, but again I had only a few hours in M Bay. But even then, I saw lots of sexy, sweet women walking around. The place definitely merits further research for this monger.
SL
You paid approx 150 dollars for sex in jamaica???
YOu could have gotten a jamaican woman here in the states for less then that.
Dave Carrera
11-02-06, 05:06
A few buddies and I are looking to hire a "party guide"; we are staying at a Villa in MoBay and want to find someone who could arrange EVERYTHING; someone who can score us the best home grown ganja available for when we arrive, and then arrange for a wild vacation. Transportation, places where we can meet the hottest "available" women, and maybe even arrange a party for us. We will reward very well. Any suggestions?
Dave, my friend. You need only RTFF. Click back to Page 6, read entry #72.
You may want to click back another page or so and read the entry from Ford regarding the Wexford. Then work forward.
IMHO you do not need a single honcho to arrange the whole thing. In fact, I would avoid that. The only big winner in that deal will be your tour guide. See the people referenced in some of my offerings and select who you need when you need them. Your "tour guide" find a pretty girl, give her $20.00, and charge you $75.00. Whereas, if you offered her $50.00 a pop she'd hang around you like a flea on mangey dog.
Finding ganga in Jamaica is like finding beer in the United States. Chances are you'll be offered some at the airport.
After reading some of the entries mentioned I'd be glad to answer any specific questions in a PM.
Whatever you decide. Be careful and have fun.
Dave Carrera
11-03-06, 00:59
I guess all I have left to do now is plan that party back at the villa, although I have no idea how to even start that! We want to hire a Reggae band, a couple of drivers to caravan "guests" back and forth, and make sure to get enough great ganja (we would give a very nice tip if we could get someone to "deliver" us an ounce).
This party should be great but now we need help on arranging all the details...recommendations very much appreciated!
He is right. To party in Mobay...you just need to be there. Ask around, many people there will direct you to where you want to be. As for smokes, 1 in 5 people that approach you will offer. Just use common sense, be carefull, and don't have the attitude of throwing uncle Ben's around, it will only bring trouble... Everyone speaks english... so getting aorund will be easy. Have fun.
Dave, I tried to PM you but either you are not taking or Jackson is not sending. So I'll make public what I can.
About 10% of the male population of Jamaica is devoted to "arranging things" for people like you and me. You just need to be very careful who you pick. Most are out to get all they can from the deal and give you (and the band and the girls) as little as possible.
I would trust either of the two bellmen at the Wexford, and maybe Dean the taxi guy to steer you in the right direction. In my PM I tried to send you numbers for those folks.
The girl whose picture I posted is also a possible starting place. She knows many girls. Make the deal with the girls instead of using the massage parlor. Eliminate the middleman.
When it comes to weed, the typical Jamaican hustler will try to sell you crap. Tell whoever you choose that you know the game, and will not accept anything but the best. Buy a little from someone before you buy a lot. Even then, be careful! Sample from the large wad before you buy all of it. Remember also, that while its everywhere, it's also illegal. The seller can get put in jail, and that's no place to be in Jamaica.
Even the guys and girl I have mentioned are only moderately trustworthy. You, being of the non Jamaican persuasion, and probably white, are the "mark". It is degrees of reliability we are talking about here.
Always, always, always bargain down. Remember the average Jamaican makes $75.00 a week. No matter how much they charge you, the massage parlors pay the girls $5.00 to go in the room with you. Anything more they have to beg for.
You should also know that Jamaican women HATE Jamaican men. There are three primary reasons for this. The men beat them up. The men will not eat pussy. The men have smoked so much weed that they often don't "get it up".
This makes it very possible that you and your friends might find some ladies at a place like The Brewery or Jimmy Buffet's who would just love to come to your party gratis - just for the fun of it. Wouldn't that be nice?
It is also why the little Jamaican princess I met down there is now in New Jersey. I can get to see her every three weeks or so. I don't beat her up. I love eating her. And I always "get it up".
Any questions? I'm here.
Be careful and have fun!
Salsero Loco
11-07-06, 16:19
passed through montego bay again, again on a long flight layover, and stopped by the massage place on top road again (see my report a few messages down for the first visit). this time i got a really greedy chick who started out asking $200 for sex. no way, honey. talked her way down from that, but then she wanted more money for bbbj, and then when i started banging her she turned out to be on her period and blood was everywhere (she acted all surprised but was a terrible liar).
despite this, i really want to try to spend exploring montego bay, and jamaica and general, but am wondering how hard it is to live more cheaply. for example, the wexford hotel everyone talks about costs around $100 per night or more. are there any cheaper places, perhaps frequented by locals? the taxis i ended up using were also [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) me, $10 for a quick 5 minute ride to the airport, for example.
like so many places i have been to before, both abroad and in the us, jamaica is set up to vacuum out the wallet of the uninitiated and inexperienced. i am wondering how cheaply some of you with more jamaica experience are able to live. it is cheap and easy to get to jamaica, but with the cost of living there seemingly so high, i'd be better off investing more in airfare to someplace like colombia, where i can live for next to nothing and the girls are off the chart.
sl
Candygrams
11-07-06, 19:14
Listen. The best spot to hit is Negril. Its cheaper to find a place $40-$50 per night , has a lot more options as far as female selection and every single night there is a party or beach party. Take a airport shuttle bus ( dont use the cabs) from the airport. Its a 1 hour 15 minute ride but the shuttle busses only cost you $30.00 ROUND trip
If you go to a strip club go on Wed night( ladies night) or friday night( freaky night) ..although you can take any strip girl home, I don't really recommend it because they are usually more expesnsive. Just vibe with the local girls there who are watching the strip show or dancers . Buy them a beer and be nice and you can have any girl in the club.
That really si the secret to getting just a local girl. They are not used to people just coming up and buying them something, so when you do and just conversate with them for a few minutes and be very nice, you can get any girl without paying more then dinner or breakfast and cab fare the in the morning.
Candyman
Like so many places I have been to before, both abroad and in the US, Jamaica is set up to vacuum out the wallet of the uninitiated and inexperienced. I am wondering how cheaply some of you with more Jamaica experience are able to live. It is cheap and easy to get to Jamaica, but with the cost of living there seemingly so high, I'd be better off investing more in airfare to someplace like Colombia, where I can live for next to nothing and the girls are off the chart.
SL
Having read Ford's great report, I went to Mo-Bay about a year and a half ago. If you follow this thread back you'll see that he and I have been promoting it enthusiastically. That said, it's not for everyone. While I agree with Candygrams that it is calmer and perhaps less expensive in Negril, you are still in Jamaica. It's cheaper yet in Mandeville and you will accomplish the same thing. The thrust of Candyman's first submission (Welcome aboard) is "right on". You can easily get it for FREE.
Jamaica's national industry is "vacuuming out the wallet of the uninitiated and inexperienced." One either learns how to beat the system and win, or gets taken and loses. And it helps if one enjoys the contest.
Now, you've had not one, but two bad experiences in Mo-Bay. You got fleeced both times. If you had checked the forum you would have known how to avoid the Rejuvenation Center the second time around. There is also a good, $40.00 hotel right next the Rejuvenation Center.
So --- Salsero, I'd try Columbia or consider Curacao. The girls are indeed "off the chart", but there are nowhere near as many non-pros who just want to hang out with you and make love for free as in Mo-Bay or Jamaica.
Dave Carrera
11-24-06, 17:00
I'm off for a party of all parties in two weeks. Still looking for some of Jamaica's hottest to join for the fun. Anyone have names AND photos (a must, as I have been badly surprised before) of women whom we can hire to come to our house? I would appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks to all !
Dave
Anyone in Jamaica this week? I am on my way now to Ochi and then Mobay.
pogo
Common Sense
12-13-06, 00:38
Guys,
Do any of you know about Toby's Resort in Montego Bay? I'm told that it is a property of Hotel Wexford. It's supposed to be in the same area as the Wexford, but the rates are much cheaper. If you can provide any info on this spot including bringing women to your room I'd be very appreciative.
Naked Gunz
01-13-07, 01:29
I would like to have a drink with any fellow mongers in Mobay next week when I pass through there. PM me...I have a couple girls lined up thru dating site, but it would be fun to see more talent with a wingman..MrC
Sky Dumont
01-15-07, 12:17
Jamaica is not the best place for the single white man, to have fun, girls and a lot of sex. 2 weeks jamaica in mobay and negril was 1 week to much.
Ok i had 3 girls 2 for free and 1 for cheap 25 euro, but what you pay and what you get is not the same and not worth it.
Especially the rooms 25 euro for a shit room in mobay downtoon, churchstreet linkage, and 50-55 dollar and more 80 dollar for a room crazy,
in thailand you get a good room for 20 euro and not more.
Party and entertainment is to small everywhere!
The prices to high everywhere!
My girl in negril said self jamaica sometimes good sometimes sucks.
Dom.Rep. was really better see my report there.
Jamaica is only the place for the white girl to find the black charming prince.
Thanks
Sky Dumont
With all due respect, I disagree with most of Sky's observations, at least as they relate to white guys mongering in Negril. I recommend the "off-season" before Dec 1 and after April 15 because room prices drop considerably, but there is still plenty to do and an abundance of women, P4P and otherwise. I had success with local neighborhood girls looking for some fun (up in the West End away from the tourist beach resorts), as well as with hardcore pros imported from Kingston to dance at XXX, Galaxy, and the like. The beaches are also full of semi-pro opportunities during the frequent concerts. Taxi drivers will sometime drive young local gals around the 'hood, helping them to make new "friends". There are also some women you will bump into who call themselves "country girls" from the nearby villages in the hills, and they are perhaps a little rougher around the edges -- but I rather like their "aim-to-please" attitudes and lower monetary expectations. I never located any true brothels or massage parlors in Negril that offered extras, but flirting with cashiers, clerks, barmaids, etc. can really pay off with patience.
It makes no sense to me to compare prices in Thailand or anywhere else to another location like Jamaica. Different economies, different expectations. Negril is cheap by USA standards, expensive by African ones. Know the economy BEFORE you visit to avoid disappointments.
Sky Dumont
01-15-07, 20:30
Negril is cheap by USA standards!!!!!!!!!
With all due respect, I disagree with most of Sky's
observations, at least as they relate to white guys mongering in Negril. I recommend the "off-season" before Dec 1 and after April 15 because room prices drop considerably, but there is still plenty to do and an abundance of women, P4P and otherwise. I had success with local neighborhood girls looking for some fun (up in the West End away from the tourist beach resorts), as well as with hardcore pros imported from Kingston to dance at XXX, Galaxy, and the like. The beaches are also full of semi-pro opportunities during the frequent concerts. Taxi drivers will sometime drive young local gals around the 'hood, helping them to make new "friends". There are also some women you will bump into who call themselves "country girls" from the nearby villages in the hills, and they are perhaps a little rougher around the edges -- but I rather like their "aim-to-please" attitudes and lower monetary expectations. I never located any true brothels or massage parlors in Negril that offered extras, but flirting with cashiers, clerks, barmaids, etc. can really pay off with patience.
It makes no sense to me to compare prices in Thailand or anywhere else to another location like Jamaica. Different economies, different expectations. Negril is cheap by USA standards, expensive by African ones. Know the economy BEFORE you visit to avoid disappointments.
Sky:
It's clear you won't be visiting Jamaica again. You find it pricey. I find free very reasonable. I have never been to Thailand so have no basis to disagree on that point.
But there's one thing you are dead wrong about. Jamaica is no place for a white girl to find the "black charming prince". Obviously you didn't talk to many Jamaican women.
The "charming princes" have at least three problems with respect to the
opposite sex.
1. Too much ganga makes for limpy dickie.
2. The "charming princes" are, let's say, one dimensional in terms of the variety of pleasures offered.
3. They beat the girls up.
So if any of our bretheran are wondering why so many Jamaican women are attracted to white guys of almost any age, and why it's easy to get it free in Mo-Bay, Negril, or anywhere else; simply ask the girl what she thinks of Jamaican men.
When you get the answer you won't be sending down your sister.
Sky Dumont
01-19-07, 17:42
I had two girls for free, in mobay and negril and a cheap one for 25 euro, but the rooms the food, taxi, entertainment and so on is the problem what you get and what you pay is not the same! For a motorcycle 20-25 dollar, you get a good one for 5 Euro in Phuket, and I think Black people and service, sometimes come not together, but want for shity service a tip. I had that problem in roots bamboo, the roomservice very lacy and wanted tip, i sad for good service tip but not for shit service.
thanks
sky dumont
Sky:
It's clear you won't be visiting Jamaica again. You find it pricey. I find free very reasonable. I have never been to Thailand so have no basis to disagree on that point.
But there's one thing you are dead wrong about. Jamaica is no place for a white girl to find the "black charming prince". Obviously you didn't talk to many Jamaican women.
The "charming princes" have at least three problems with respect to the
opposite sex.
1. Too much ganga makes for limpy dickie.
2. The "charming princes" are, let's say, one dimensional in terms of the variety of pleasures offered.
3. They beat the girls up.
So if any of our bretheran are wondering why so many Jamaican women are attracted to white guys of almost any age, and why it's easy to get it free in Mo-Bay, Negril, or anywhere else; simply ask the girl what she thinks of Jamaican men.
When you get the answer you won't be sending down your sister.
Yes, the white ladies come here for black cock and the white guys come looking for black pussy. This equation sounds very much like we have something to offer.
Imagine the young university whiteys leave their mommy's house dressed up nice for a 'vacation' under the tropical sun and ends up taking some over-sized black dick from beach bums who otherwise sell bottles at 50 cents a piece.
You're right, you see those beauties with some huge, very dark guys with teeth missing and severely blemished skin. Can't wait to have that tight white pussy.
Alan
(Jamaican dweller)
Sky:
It's clear you won't be visiting Jamaica again. You find it pricey. I find free very reasonable. I have never been to Thailand so have no basis to disagree on that point.
But there's one thing you are dead wrong about. Jamaica is no place for a white girl to find the "black charming prince". Obviously you didn't talk to many Jamaican women.
The "charming princes" have at least three problems with respect to the
opposite sex.
1. Too much ganga makes for limpy dickie.
2. The "charming princes" are, let's say, one dimensional in terms of the variety of pleasures offered.
3. They beat the girls up.
So if any of our bretheran are wondering why so many Jamaican women are attracted to white guys of almost any age, and why it's easy to get it free in Mo-Bay, Negril, or anywhere else; simply ask the girl what she thinks of Jamaican men.
When you get the answer you won't be sending down your sister.Look nobody in a tourist trap, especially a sex tourist trap is going to be on the up and up. You are dealing with the dregs of society, so you will be exposed to their problems. Just like if you deal with street hookers in the US, you'll see that they have problems with drugs, assault, robbery and all the rest. Let's not fool ourselves here. There are no "princes" interested in some sloppy US white chick looking for cock on vacation.
The upper class Jamaican dude wouldn't touch her anymore than you would want your son or daughter to deal with a low life from some filthy Euro destination who comes to the US. Likewise, when you go to JA, you're going to deal with low level women. I mean, if you can bed a chick, any chick, in under a week while you're on vacay, she's not a high class woman. And by the way, nothing you're doing is high class, it's seeking pussy for loot. So why you're even speaking in these terms as if you're on some high moral ground, is beyond me. You may not beat the chicks up.. but you're a monger and we all know that is what it is. Enough. Let's just talk bout our experiences with women and leave our ignorant, self aggrandizing posts for our vivid imaginations, shall we?
Naked Gunz
01-23-07, 05:51
ok ---after all the race baiting has settled down let me pls report.
After visiting, seems this monger spot takes more work than others. If your limited to Western Hemis, then DR might b better. I don't know about the all inclusives,but I suspect bringing anybody off the street would be frowned upon. If you have no lobby to do the walk of shame, that would help.
I stayed at a hotel on the hip strip and a driver took me around, if not for him, MoBay would have been harder. PM me for names, I think that's better.
Being solo, I found the hip strip limited n boring. It's not that long a "strip". Just a few bars,restaurants,shops. Day or night I saw very few WG;skanks not worth taking to the room. If you like tours, that means leaving Mobay.
The roads are crap so b ready for ruff ride. I thought my vital organs were being ripped apart. Most tours are couple hrs drive. Tours are for families anyway. We want pussy.
To make Mobay monger efficient, best bets during the day is go down the "strip" and talk it up to whomever interest you. I got lucky with a girl that worked in a restaurant, only cuz no one else was around when we had time to talk & exchange info. Out of the many women I saw she was the only one I saw and liked. Tons pussy walkin around downtown Mobay though. Pretend your shopping and do the same there. Your bound to get someone.
RACE: Don't worry about being blk ,white or whatever ur race is..What I suggest to ANY man is to really not act like a *****. Jam men are very boisterous. Act like u own the place, but be respectful and get respected. When I open my mouth, it's confirmed am not from there..SO! Some guys sometime forget that being foriegn is a benefit. On that mouth note, Jamaican dialect is hard to understand and left me frustrated often.
At night bar to go to is The Brewery -next door to Wexford hotel.. Club Xtatic (strip club) next to Wexford is good but expensive. You will work on talking girl down from $150 for shot of ass. I never went there. Massage parlor I went to also was $50 to get massage and HJ only. Anything more is $US150 down depend on bargain skills. Fri. night the best bar -Pier One.
All the girls know and go. Should have no problems scoring. Just make sure ANY girl has no man with her.
Driver took me to Negril, abt an hr drive from Mobay. Negril is better than Mobay cos all is concentrated and its more understood we're adults and what we're here for. OMG, some white woman with rasta man..SO! At the concert on the beach you can see the deals being worked all around you. Thur. night is ladies night at the Jungle startin at 11:30. Two floors of *****s, sweet pussy. Bring your best game and talk em down. I don't like fake hair,so eliminates a lot of girls I see. If you have same issues come early to get more selection.
One treat I didnt expect was my driver took me to Kingston. Yeah mon! Better to stay there more than 1 day cos the drive sux. We did in 1 nite -OUCH! We stopped by a massage parlor, but was a lil too ghetto. My dick won't rise to this occasion! Even the Jamaican guys complained about their attitudes. Strip club we stopped at cost 3 to get in( BTW $3 spoken=$300 Jamaican).
Place was kinda hardcore and I only mean it had typical big city charm. Prices were great. Two girls for $20 for 30min and they expect a tip. We did'nt tatste the honey, but they're were some hotties. Don't expect GFE. More of a slam some Vitamin V and be as nasty as you want kinda place.
Best part of the trip was a sex show we stumble on. About 6 or 7 hotties running around a private apartment with a bed in the living room. The girls said anybody with the balls to perform in front of everyone could have free pussy. All you want. More shy types like me can take girls to back room. Two girls for 15,30,60 min. I only took one girl for hr/ $US60 cuz I did't really understand it was for two,but it was very good. She was very sweet n receptive and I manage to have stayin power for almost the whole hr.
The girls did all the entertainin on the mattress with dildos and such. Only 1 guy took up the offer and he did not really perform. The girl runnin this said it's seven days a week. And I think the driver might be avail for regular trips if given enuff gas money. If you insist on Jamaica AND saving money, go straight to Kingston.
I like to keep my reports to the point and with information. Not superfulous babble, but this color thing is important to me. OK, I'm Black and blended. Hey I would love to go to Moscow, but I might get attacked by skinheads. But if I want to go I'm more than there. With big balls and latex! Anybody that starts throwin sterotypes to justify why they're not having fun means
you may have no social skills. Guys, go to Jam or any 2nd or 3rd world country with respectful attitude of people and culture and you will have time of ur life.
Well said Naked Gunz. If you behave like a gorilla, you get gorilla behavior in return. Many Jamaicans might lack some of the social skills but are really nice people. Like everywhere else in the world, the girls are there to take your money away from you. If you sound or look unfamiliar with the territory you end up paying more. You pay even more if you behave as if you've just arrived and own the place. It's the same rule in most other places. Nothing to do with color or where you are from. It's the rule.
Naked Gunz - nice report, nice photos....I'm glad you had a good time. :)
For overall fun (you're right) the DR is #1 in the caribbean, but Jamaica is very underrated.
A few of the girls you spent time with have absolutely smoking bodies-very nice!
I think you're being very charitable however when you say that the All-ins would "frown" upon bringing in p4p girls. All-ins aren't going to permit you to bring in girls. You'd be taking a big chance.....a good choice of a hotel is very important and is your first step to having fun in MoBay.
I picked The Wexford - there are others too, but avoid the "all-ins"
Nice report Naked gunz, thanks!
Excellent report NG! And a refreshing antidote to the racist nonsense that snuck into the discussion. If you can't get laid in Negril, mon, then the problem ain't the ladies. Kingston's a little scary for me; worth an overnighter if you you fly in to the Kingston airport, but otherwise I prefer the West (Negril) and the relatively undeveloped SW (Treasure Beach area).
Naked Gunz
01-25-07, 00:47
Naked Gunz - nice report, nice photos....I'm glad you had a good time. :)
For overall fun (you're right) the DR is #1 in the caribbean, but Jamaica is very underrated.
A few of the girls you spent time with have absolutely smoking bodies-very nice!
I think you're being very charitable however when you say that the All-ins would "frown" upon bringing in p4p girls. All-ins aren't going to permit you to bring in girls. You'd be taking a big chance.....a good choice of a hotel is very important and is your first step to having fun in MoBay.
I picked The Wexford - there are others too, but avoid the "all-ins"
Nice report Naked gunz, thanks!
Thanks guys, only tryin to contribute. When I get stuck on the East Coast for a few weeks again, I will consider a weekend Negril trip.
But now my focus is the DR. Brushing up on my Spanish and yes..RTFF!
Thanks guys, only tryin to contribute. When I get stuck on the East Coast for a few weeks again, I will consider a weekend Negril trip.
But now my focus is the DR. Brushing up on my Spanish and yes..RTFF!
Naked Gunz,
I am bi-lingual - Spanish/English so I tell you what..... I'll make a deal with you. (smile) I'll help you with your Spanish if you "throw" me some "guest-friendly" hotels in Negril or some other hotel recomendations in Mobay! I liked "The Wexford", but what are your thoughts on the subject? :)
As I've said many times on this board a real good "monger" trip starts with real good accomodations!
cheers...........
Husky Babalin
02-12-07, 20:35
Try Glouchester Hotel, Doctors Cave Hotel, both on Glouchester Av. As well you can check Toby Inn and up on the hill above MoBay there is El Greco (nice rooms and spacious) as well as Grandiflora in same area.
To monger in Jamaica, you need to be in Kingston. First, get a hold of the newspaper, there are a few of them and check out the massage parlors ads. Exchange rate is: J$65=US$1
A 45min massage will run you J$1400, 60 mins J$1700, if you want 'personal services' it will run you J$5-10, 000, depending on the girl and how horny you are. Those services are usually done on prem.
If you want to venture out go to a few of the strip clubs. There is one on dominica ave/rd called platinum, there are some decent looking strippers and they will play depending on your negotiating skills. The nationality range from Panama, dom rep, some south american and some russian, ukraine. It's best to get their cell #s to set up a date the next day, cus they are at work and you may have to pay the house to take her out.
There are other strip clubs in Kingston, a taxi driver will know them all. Never pay more than J$6000 approx US$90 unless she rocks your world. If you want russians/ukraine, prepare to pay US$300 & up.
Happy mongering.
I don't really monger in Jamaica, but still always keep my eyes open to see whats happening.
Dolls House strip joint down past the Brewery is now a sports bar. No great loss as it was VERY pricey for pretty Eastern European girls with really harsh attitudes. Xtatic is still going, but it is pretty seedy and caters to locals.
There was the usual variety of SWs, but I avoids them as they usually have very aggressive attitudes and are rarely that good looking.
This trip it seemed that all the street hustlers were pitching the massage parlor...choose from 35 hot girls. Of course it's all for Rejuvenation of Top Road.
I asked a local friend of mine why they were pushing it so hard. He told me that they have recently started to market to the tourists and give $500J for referrals. (about $8 US) Another $500J to the taximan (legal driver or not). Minimum session charge is about $30 US. I asked him about the services. Even though he is a taxi driver and will take anyone wherever they want, he is pretty conservative and not really into the hustle scene. He said, "Dem got young girls, dey do anyting. Dem not just rub you onna back, dem rub allll over."
I have a few flirtations going with some of the girls at my favorite restaurants (including a chinese girl!) that will probably lead to some fun in the near future. There is also a housekeeper at the hotel that is a strong possibility. Fortunately I go to Jamaica a lot so a slow play is fine with me.
On one of my strolls on the strip I got in a conversation with a woman from Mandeville that said she was in town for the weekend. Her name was Vivian. She was dressed like a typical rural woman, hair up in a sack, long floor length skirt, very proper blouse and vest. She said that she was going to Marguaritaville later. So we made loose plans to meet up there.
As I was heading up there a few hours later, I heard her call out to me from the top of the spiral staircase at the Montego Bay Club tower. (across from Dr Cave Beach) At first I did not recognize her....she was wearing a hot little black dress that barely cleared her ass....long, long legs. Damn! She was hiding that smokin' bod under that long skirt.
It turns out that she was working the street. I chatted with her for a while. She said she works 2 jobs back home. One in an office, another as a waitress. She comes to Mobay every now and then to pick up some extra cash.
She was the hottest and nicest SW I have ever seen in Mobay. I was very tempted to take her back to the room for the night but had two strong reasons not to. First is that I know everyone that works at my hotel too well. I do not need them knowing about any private activities.
And even though I know how to get her to my room undetected, I just don't play with SWs....that's reason 2. ( I stay at the hotel where the Aussie monger was killed last summer by a SW's boyfriend/pimp....just a part of why I avoid SWs)
Overall....the scene in Mobay is about how it always is. Anything you want is available at any time with no problem. I may try Rejuventaion on my next trip...if for no other reason but to take one for the team. (just doing my civic duty as a citizen of this board)
pogo
Very, very nice pogo! Thank you for doing your civic duty as a senior member of this board! :)
I am sooooooo sorry that the Doll House is closed! (lol) What a rip-off joint! Yes, the eastern European girls were very hot, but at $200-$250 USD for "out-call" they were a total rip-off. The play there was taking the few local girls that worked there. I'm happy its now a sports bar!
I certainly understand your apprehension dealing with sw's, but I still would of liked to hear a few details about what a session would have been like with Vivian, and a photo or two!
Maybe a session with Vivian will fit within the parameters of your "civic duty" next time! :D
Thanks,
FORD
Fun And Sun
02-19-07, 02:46
Fellow mongerers :)
I thought that since there is so much talking of the relaxation and rejuvenation center on the Mo'Bay thread I'd add a few cents of my experiences there.
I've been to Jamaica twice, once in Mo'Bay and once in Negril, and on my way back from the second trip I got to the airport a few hours early and decided to check out the relaxation and rejuvenation center since so many taxi drivers had pitched it to me when I was in Mo'Bay, I had seen the website, and was just curious.
First point, the place is extremely pricey for Jamaica. You can see the menu on the website, that's what it costs to go in the room with the girl. Obviously go for the cheapest option on there, you do get a decent massage for it...
Second point, the place is for tourists, and the girls know what prices are like in western more wealthy countries and will try to charge you that. It was mysecond trip to Jamaica so I was used to being hustled constantly and always negotiating, but still feel that in the end it was all a bit expensive.
Thirdly, the girls there when I checked out the selection (they lead you into this one room where all the girls wait for you) looked pretty much like the girls at any go-go club. A few pretty ones, but nothing there that was out of the ordinary so to speak.
Fourthly, I had a really nice time with this one girl, have forgotten her name. A really nice massage, good conversation about Jamaica, a few laughs, two drinks, and a really nice BJ to relax me for my flight, so no regrets.
It set me back a little too much money, but left me really happy and relaxed for my flight home, and I slept like a little puppy. So in summary, go there if you only got a few hours in Jamaica, but you can get a girl that is just as pretty for the whole night for close to the same money and I think of myself as a pretty good negotiator.
Hope this one adds to the knowledge on the board.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Husky Babalin
02-19-07, 16:23
Good Report Fun and Sun! Let me add afew things!
Always go for the Senusous Massage as this usually the cheapest at all MPs and will include hand-release. About your BJ. Was that a CBJ? Because most of the girls here will only do CBJ now!
Really not just for tourist, although your are right in MoBay, hence Some Tourist!
As for the girls always a nice selection in house and usually a few spinners. If you went during day, some maybe still a sleep!
Well it seems like it was worth it! Soon Cum Back we hope!
Naked Gunz
02-19-07, 21:26
Naked Gunz,
I am bi-lingual - Spanish/English so I tell you what..... I'll make a deal with you. (smile) I'll help you with your Spanish if you "throw" me some "guest-friendly" hotels in Negril or some other hotel recomendations in Mobay! I liked "The Wexford", but what are your thoughts on the subject? :)
As I've said many times on this board a real good "monger" trip starts with real good accomodations!
cheers...........
Sorry for the late reply guys..Am on my way to the Gulf protectin u sorry civilians. DONT KNOW WHEN I"M SEEIN POONTANG AGAIN!
I stayed in Mobay..Don't know about Negril. The thing with the Wexford is the driver. Without him my trip would have sucked. Treat him very good.
He will do the same for you. Official driver rates are $30 dollars an hour, ( I kid you not).
I read that some guys previously had to tip the guards to bring in overnight guests. I actually just walked them right in with me??!!
Of course I just ignored who was watchin. They did not stop me.
Hotels now have this thing wear you have to secure a band on your wrist to let them know your a guest. I refused to do that and so did another guy at the desk with me. They said just carry it with you then. If they start to enforce this it could screw up your date, but they may realize nobody wants to wear a damn huge rubberband on they're vacation, (which aotomatically brands you as a tourist prime for ez pickings).
Hotels now have this thing wear you have to secure a band on your wrist to let them know your a guest. I refused to do that and so did another guy at the desk with me. They said just carry it with you then. If they start to enforce this it could screw up your date, but they may realize nobody wants to wear a damn huge rubberband on they're vacation, (which aotomatically brands you as a tourist prime for ez pickings).
That has been a thing with many of the bigger resorts for quite some time. The all inclusives can be strict about it. You won't get dinner or a beer without one. (Although Hedo doesn't do wrist bands)
Now, most of the hotels require them. I always insist that they fasten it at the last hole so I can easily slip it on and off as I enter or leave the property. I would NEVER hit the street wearing one.
Good luck in the Gulf....come back in one piece. War sucks. (been there and done that in the jungle)
pogo
I certainly understand your apprehension dealing with sw's, but I still would of liked to hear a few details about what a session would have been like with Vivian, and a photo or two!
Maybe a session with Vivian will fit within the paremeters of your "civic duty" next time! :D
Thanks,
FORD
The image of those legs and that ass are permanently burned into my mind.
She was indeed a temptation and actually seemed like a pretty nice girl. Perhaps if I see her again I might succumb to that temptation. I sometimes stay at El Greco, but am not as well known there as I am at G-shire. That could also influence my decision as it would protect my privacy a bit more.
BTW at El Greco you can register a "guest" at the front desk at no charge. They are supposed to leave by 11 PM but no one will ever come looking for them. This offers a certain level of protection as the desk will check and record their ID.
pogo
I was at Toby's recently and got a hard time from the night guard about bringing in guest. Had to eventually tip him and he recorded the name on the bill. He really hassled us and made me quite turned off though overall I liked the property. I hope to find a way around this or a better hotel to stay at.
Husky Babalin
02-20-07, 20:10
That has been a thing with many of the bigger resorts for quite some time. The all inclusives can be strict about it. You won't get dinner or a beer without one. (Although Hedo doesn't do wrist bands) Now, most of the hotels require them. I always insist that they fasten it at the last hole so I can easily slip it on and off as I enter or leave the property. I would NEVER hit the street wearing one. Its hard for to believe that the system of bands for guest is going change any time in the future. I am bit surprised that they let you get away with just carrying it. But as you said you made a fuss! For a Jamaican guest it would not be so easy. If you have Jamaican Honey visiting you on and all-inclusive you can bet that they will make her wear it. If she is walking around property without it there will be major hassle. One thing I would not do is sneek a JA Guest into an All-inclusive, it leaves them open to some serious hassle. Apart from intial problems, if something is missing from a room on the other end of the property that illegal guest will be questioned about it. Its not easy for a local. As for Toby Inn and paying off guard. If your going to cum in after front desk is closed, and if there is a charge for additional guest I recommend that you deal with Guard beforehand, also make double sure that this is the Guard that is on duty when you return. If not find out what hotel policy is and phone in name of guest. It is best just to make some friends with front desk of Guard. It is easy to make friends with Jamaicans. A little chocolate can go along way at the front desk. As for Guard offer a cigarette and leave the pack, etc. Just some thoughts!
Fun And Sun
02-22-07, 01:40
Good Report Fun and Sun! Let me add afew things!
Always go for the Senusous Massage as this usually the cheapest at all MPs and will include hand-release. About your BJ. Was that a CBJ? Because most of the girls here will only do CBJ now !
Really not just for tourist , although your are right in MoBay , hence Some Tourist !
As for the girls always a nice selection in house and usually a few spinners. If you went during day , some maybe still a sleep!
Well it seems like it was worth it ! Soon Cum Back we hope!Thanks for complements on the report Husky. Wouldn't have rated the BJ so highly if it was a CBJ... :) I got on really well with the girl and we spent a lot of time chatting while she was giving me the massage, so she might have made an exception for me.
You're right it's not only for tourists, did see a few locals there actually when I was waiting to go to my room. Not sure if they paid the same as I did though, but then, not a big deal really.
As for selection, I was there at about 8 pm which is still early, and the one girl I picked was very pretty. Tall, skinny, 19 to 20 years old. It might be that the hot ones come in a bit later.
Already starting to plan my next Jamaica trip once the big tourist season comes to an end actually, can't wait to go back.
Fun And Sun
02-22-07, 01:53
One thing I also wanted to add a bit to the Board about is Goldfingers, one of the go-go bars/strip clubs in Mo'Bay (not in the tourist area, but in the actual town).
I did go there and there are some very hot chicks that dance there, as well as do extras of course... If you are in Mo'Bay I definitely recommend a visit. The place seems a bit dangerous from first impressions, but when you are actually in there you can feel pretty much safe although it can feel a bit sketchy with music blaring and it being very dark and some pretty shady characters come in.
I had a beer with the owner outside the club once, and also talked to one of the girls that work there about whether it was safe there, and I think that pretty much the guy that owns the place is well connected and won't let anyone mess with his girls or his customers. When I was having a beer with him on the front porch outside some pretty thugish looking hodlums came by, but they treated him with quite a bit of respect. So I think the place is safe in terms of inside, but at night it's definitely not safe once you are outside so make sure that you have a driver waiting for you to take you back.
So in summary, definitely recommend a visit. Hot girls, some very sexy dancing, not too expensive beers, and reasonably safe.
(You can also get day time take out from there, the girls work until about six in the morning but all were awake when I came by at 2pm. If I remember they need to be back at work by about 8pm or so, but that's plenty of time for ample fun on your first/second day on your first trip to Jamaica before learning to work the bars for the freelancers, at least that's what I found.)
Husky Babalin
02-22-07, 18:54
Thanks for complements on the report Husky. Wouldn't have rated the BJ so highly if it was a CBJ. I got on really well with the girl and we spent a lot of time chatting while she was giving me the massage, so she might have made an exception for me.
You're right it's not only for tourists, did see a few locals there actually when I was waiting to go to my room. Not sure if they paid the same as I did though, but then, not a big deal really.
As for selection, I was there at about 8 pm which is still early, and the one girl I picked was very pretty. Tall, skinny, 19 to 20 years old. It might be that the hot ones come in a bit later.
Already starting to plan my next Jamaica trip once the big tourist season comes to an end actually, can't wait to go back.Big tourist season ends right after Easter this year.
Yes chatting up the ladies is the best thing to do. That is my exact style. But, as I am sure you know CBJ is becuming the order of the day down here. So a little finesse goes along way!
Always ask fo Jamaican Dollar Quote it always work in your favor. I believe the Jamaicans are paying same price, as there should be a Menu in JA dolars as well as US.
I believe at Stacys, the Sensuous is $2000 Ja = about 30US.
If they balk at this just tell them you work here and that is what you always pay. Should work, either way it should not exceed 40us.
F & S, Hope you return soon, if you ever need anything or just would like to have a drink you can PM me! I live in Negril and work MoBay!
has anyone been to those resort. any action there... could not find any info from previous reports on them.
Husky Babalin
02-22-07, 22:05
has anyone been to those resort. Any action there. Could not find any info from previous reports on them.There is no action at Grand Lido, this is an upscale all-inclusive with primarily couples. GL Negril may have access to Hedonism where there could be a few JA Honeys about, but you can't count on that. Gran lido is not a GF friendly hotel.
Give more details about your trip! I will be happy to respond with recommendations.
Husky
Does anyone know where the website is for the Rejuvenation Center?
Husky Babalin
07-07-07, 19:06
The New and Improved Rejuvenation Ctr. Is now Open! WEB-Site Not working as of yet!
New address 34 Hobbs Av. This is east of the Airport (No longer on TOP Hill) As you leave Airport you head east about 1/2 mile to Flankers turn-off. As soon as you turn off you get on servise road that continues east a short way till you reach Alex Car Rental, here you make left.
Come straight to 2nd house on left.
They have fixed this place up very nice, orderly and clean. Ph# is 979-6657 ask for Stacy (receptionist is Patrice, Tina and Shelly) let them know that John (The Handsome White Guy) sent you. I guarantee you will get good service. I stopped today, there were 9 Lovelies, all under 24. On weekends they usually have up to 15.
Basic Sensuous Massage is $50US
Heavens touch is 100US w/two attendents.
This place is very comfortable and relax have a drink and get to know all the ladies. VISITORS should get a good taxi driver to take you here. I do not recommend that you try to go here at nite in rental car unless you know Jamaica and your way around. If you call them they may send a taxi for you, I recommend that you ask Taxi fee before you hop in.
Have Fun! I DO!
Husky
Does anyone know where the website is for the Rejuvenation Center?
I got back from MoBay a week ago, missed the summerfest by one week! What a week makes. The island was slow and it showed.
The last time I was in MoBay was april and it was nice. This time, it was so slow, I had shopkeepers bugging me to buy and guys running from one side of the street to tell me something (I totally ignored everybody).
I didn't read the forum in april, because I wanted to try the local flair. Not hard to meet anyone, especially if you run the line you are looking for a Jamaican wife.
This last trip, I read Husky Babalin's post on the MP. I wanted to check out their way of doing the MP. He was right, 9 beauties came out for my likings.
I did mention to "Shelly" that I knew "John" but she acted like she didn't know him but whatever, I was ready for business.
I got the tour driver of my tour to the Appleton Estates to take me. The house has no signs, so the driving directions of Mr. Babalin would have been your only way if you drove.
I went early saturday (5pm) before the rush as I was told. All the girls were called to me. The first one was "apple". She had a nice face and great body-but, she wasn't very enthused. My experience began to kick in.
I decided to choose not the most pretty, but the best personality. It ended up being "lisa". She had a smile from the time she came through the back door and she held my hand for a while when she greeted me.
They handed me a "menu" that was in american dollars. I am sure there must be a Jamaican menu with better prices for the local. Thats okay, the lowest service was a massage and a yank for .5, not bad. I went with that.
Lisa did an okay massage but she did a very good job with the HJ. It was so good, I didn't even want to go back the next day.
Lisa mentioned that they will go to your hotel. I was at the El Greco and she said they were across the street from there not too long ago-Damn! The thing to do is go there the first time, get to know the faces, then if you want a second go at it in your hotel, you will know what she looks like already.
I will go back one more time and then its off to other adventures. This time I will make camp in Negril though. I met a woman who was from Cuba and she was telling me to go to Cuba. She said they don't stamp your passport.
Well, I went to the Cuban forum and I didn't like what I read, so I will pass.
I learned alot form this trip, actually. At Rejuve, you can get two girls for
a massage for only $. But, these women are a little reserved. Let's just put it this way, two women in the Philippines, now you are talking.
Lisa told me that most of them are from Kingston. Why? Maybe because the country is so religous. A local girl would have shame working there. They like sex in JA, believe me, they just don't show it openly. I looked in the yellow pages and could not even find a heading that said "massage".
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So I'm doing a two week trip to Jamaica either first week or mid-may. I haven't seen many reports recently but that doesn't matter. I plan to spend a week in Montego Bay and a week in Negril and travel around the surrounding areas.
I'm planning to go there for the freebies after reading this entire thread (Kudos Ford and Billy Bob) I need a little info though. I'm looking for a place to live and live cheap in Montego Bay and Negril. Can't afford the Wexford with their rates or even the Gloucester that averages $80/night. I'm looking around the $30-$50 price range hopefully guest friendly.
I'm also wondering how hard it might be for me to get some freebies. I'm a 23 year old, fairly good looking, indian guy but live in N. America. Are Jamaican women into that? Any help would be much appreciated.
Axeman
There is massage parlour in Mobay but you can get a lot more than just a massive. If all you want is a massage you can get a nude for $40US. Lot's of chicks to pick from, there's a bar in there if you want to have a drink.
Montego Bay Ocean View
19 Queens Drive
876.940.7417
I have visited there a few times and can say it's a pretty good spot. I'm an expat living in Mobay and don't know where else to go other than picking up the locals.
Naked Gunz
01-08-09, 05:28
has anyone been to those resort. any action there... could not find any info from previous reports on them.
The all inclusives are NOT GF! Why do you think they have those big freakin walls up? It's to keep locals out and your dollars in!
Member #4379
02-12-09, 05:40
When you arrive in Negril cheap accommodation is available on the cliffside instead of the beach side. I'd hire a taxi and negotiate a price for 1 hour and have him go to a bunch of guesthouses on the clifffside in your price range. You should be able to sample a few within that 1 hour and you can a room definitely under $50 u.s a night, even less around $30 u.s. per night. It's all negotiable and some even have a common stove where you could do some cooking. Try La Villa La Cage, can't the remember the other ones but the Rough Guides will have a list or the Lonely Planet.
Greetings All,
I have a shitload of questions and I hope I can get some sound advice from you guys. Let me start off with, while this may show as my 1st post, it is not. I haven't posted on the international board for a couple of years but I did have a dozen or so posts on the Mexican, Netherlands and the German boards (OMG the FKK's were amazing), I just can't remember my nick from then and my email/ip has change (twice) since then. I also, became a senior member on the USA boards (same nick as now)(check my references *LOL*). I've answered via PM twenty plus queries asked by other members. I can provide assistance for most of the Gulf Coast from Pensacola, FL to Nawlin's plus a bit on Memphis. Most importantly I HAVE RTFF. I have also, researched a bunch of other websites.
The reason I share all this worthless info is by no means to brag but rather to let ya'll (yes I'm in the south *LOL*) know I'm not a newbie asking for something without paying a bit of "dues" first. Also, I will most certainly report my "findings" after I recover from my journey, regardless of how much assistance I gather.
Many of my questions do not directly pertain to the normal topics of this board but I trust the answers/suggestions I receive will be top quality.
A brief overview of me and my situation (like any of this post is brief). I am 38, white, heavy set (not huge (230#, 6'2")), been compared to Nicolas Cage, to which I respond "No, we just have the same hairline". I am VERY recently divorced after 11 Years and seeking a nice, little "attitude re-set". I am on a very tight budget (less than a grand to spend while there). Originally, I was looking at another trip to Boystown when I came across round-trip tickets from Miami to Montego Bay, Jamaica for under $200 round-trip (nearly $100 of that is taxes+fees) Great Deal, huh? I think so. Miami is the same distance for me as Nuevo Laredo and I've never been to Jamaica. I will be arriving on a Thursday afternoon (3/5/09) leaving the following Monday afternoon. I am a fairly heavy smoker/toker (As stated earlier I've been to Amsterdam. Twice, definitely part of my budget), I do drink but, rarely in the daytime and not heavily (six pack gives me a healthy buzz).
Now that I've wasted soooo much of your time on to the actual reason of the post:
Hotel- I'm fairly well set on Toby's ($79 plus taxes), but, certainly, open to other suggestions around $100/night incl/taxes (Wexford is $96+taxes is it worth the difference). I'm not looking for anything fancy, just a place to crash that is with-in walking distance of most things and fairly safe (Motel 6 quality is fine for this trip). Does anyone know their policy of bringing guest pro and non-pro back to the room? I saw a post about someone being slightly hasseled by security. What about before 11pm before front desk is closed? Is the hotel "smoker friendly"; I'm gonna toke wherever I stay, just not sure if I need to take extra precautions. Anyone know of workers there (or anywhere) to "trust" for transactions.
Smoke. Any recommendations of who to talk to? For top quality smokables? I read some post about "Mr. Cool" under some stairs but can't find the post, unsure if it was on this board, unsure which stairs. Any comments on strains to ask about, I've read "lambs breathe or bread" is a good start. I've read on other forums that other forms of smokables are available, the gummy kind not anything "white"(not my d. O. C.) any thoughts?
Drinks. Most importantly will I be able to find a COLD Coke (preferably not Pepsi)? Europeans don't seem to believe in ice, barely in refrigeration. Should I bring my own soda and small cooler? Will I be able to buy a bag of ice? How much is a beer? I've read J. Buffets is like $4. 50 (ridiculous) what about most other places? Any other recommendations beside Red Stripe? (I like RS, just curious) Any rum drink suggestions that do not have pinapple, coconut or Kaluha / Tia Maria?
Money. I generally prefer to use local currency it's currently $1=$89j which I'll factor to $75j-$80j to account for fluxes and fees. Any reason to bring $j with me? (ex. In AMS you really want about 10Euros for the train from airport until reaching a local ATM, in Mexico just wait til you get there) Only reason I can think of would be for taxi to hotel, which I understand should be no problem with American $'s. Is it correct that there is a decent ATM on Hip Strip? Where? Is it the normal situation of it dispensing $j and my bank gives me pretty decent rate plus $3-$5 fee. I've read not to exchange at airport, hotel or bank but is an ATM ok?
Shopping. While I won't be doing much souvener shopping, I will need to get a few, where do you recommend? I don't forsee falling for scams nor being bothered too much by the "strong sales tactics" as I said I've been to Mexico (border towns and cruises) with no problems (except for being mugged by the Federales), I'm fairly street smart and understand it's generally a matter of staying aware of your surroundings and being respectful but taking any shit and not looking like a victim. How far is the city center shopping? Any particular shops to recommend, I enjoy the flea market/mercado atmosphere. Bargaining is not a problem, I know how to walk away when it suits me.
Food. Damn this is going to be a problem, I'm way too picky. First and foremost NO seafood. Goat is also a no. And not too many veggies (Vegetables are what food eats)(I am however definitely a Vagatarian) I like most spices, excluding curry, HOT is fine (as long as there's a beer nearby). I know there's a KFC, BK and pizza at Bobsled. As picky as I am I really prefer to eat places I can not eat at home. Basically what I'm looking for is a good recommendation for a bbq/jerk stand. What is average costs? 2 meals a day is more than ample for me, I don't tend to be terribly afflicted with muchies, but snack suggestions are most welcome. Also, any good (not expensive) Chinese restaurants (found a great one in AMS)
Clubs. Strip and otherwise. I've read the one at 51 market is interesting, do I need to take a taxi to it or is it near hip strip? What other strip clubs do you recommend? What are normal drink prices in the SC's? Are they similar to US clubs with lap dances, if so how much? I already understand most have negotiable FS available onsite and the bar fine situation for take-out but, pointers are always welcome. I'll probably have to check out M'ville but don't plan on spend much time (or $) there. Are there any clubs with music other than reggae (Metal or Techno, probably not but I would find it interesting to see how the locals responded to that genre) Where else do you suggest to see a good band, dance, drink, toke (any or ideally all)? I've read not to toke on the streets but what about in clubs? If the locals are doing it is it ok for me to spark one as well.
Beaches. I'll probably spend at least one if not 2 afternoons at the Cave. Can I bring a cooler? Probably not, but that's why I'm asking. How much are extras there (no, not that kind of "extras" *LOL*). I've read admission is $5 as are umbrellas and chairs, what about jet skis and similar items (are these negotiable? , again probably not) What about Aquasol? How far is it, is it any better than Cave? Any other beaches to suggest, I don't see Negril within my budget and the public beaches make me wary of even leaving my towel on the beach while swimming. How is the "scenery" on the beaches (the type with bikinis or a possible a lack of) Girls. Not too many questions on this topic as the forum has been extremely informative. But a few, Is the Rejuvination Center still the best bet for "special" massage? What are the rates above the massage menu that I should tip the girl for BJ or fs? If possible on all answers to give amounts in $j. I hope to find at least one (5) non-pro to, at least, "chase" to help occupy the time and provide a few notable memories. I generally, prefer lighter skinned, top heavy ladies, I know that Jamaica is not the ideal for this but it's all pink.
Well DAYUM, I've written a friggin book, with way too many, 's and ()'s but I'm anxious and don't know who else to turn to for these picky details. So, fellas please help me out preferably on the board so that others may benefit as well but PM's are fine especially for specific names. Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. I would say I'll be happy to re-pay the favors but actually I'll help anyone who asks whether they were able to assist me or not. But I'll certainly buy anyone a beer who happens to be there.
Peace Mon (LOL)
Faust
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Greetings All,
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Hotel- I'm fairly well set on Toby's ($79 plus taxes), but, certainly, open to other suggestions around $100/night incl/taxes (Wexford is $96+taxes is it worth the difference). I'm not looking for anything fancy, just a place to crash that is with-in walking distance of most things and fairly safe (Motel 6 quality is fine for this trip). Does anyone know their policy of bringing guest pro and non-pro back to the room? I saw a post about someone being slightly hasseled by security. What about before 11pm before front desk is closed? Is the hotel "smoker friendly"; I'm gonna toke wherever I stay, just not sure if I need to take extra precautions. Anyone know of workers there (or anywhere) to "trust" for transactions.
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Toby's isn't bad but the Wexford is a much more convenient location with a very short walk to most of the places you mentioned. You may also want to consider Gloustershire or Dr's Cave Hotel. The Dr Cave Hotel is VERY popular for spring break with lot's of tourist girl possibilities. The only places that won't be girl friendly are the all inclusives.
Smoke. Any recommendations of who to talk to? For top quality smokables? I read some post about "Mr. Cool" under some stairs but can't find the post, unsure if it was on this board, unsure which stairs. Any comments on strains to ask about, I've read "lambs breathe or bread" is a good start. I've read on other forums that other forms of smokables are available, the gummy kind not anything "white"(not my d. O. C.) any thoughts?
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You're in Jamaica, mon! Smoke is everywhere. I have never had a problem in any hotel. Just be private and discreet. I have spent many mornings on a balcony with coffee and a splif. Mr. Cool is still around but not as consistently as before. Ask around for where the straw market is behind Tony's Pizza. Do not buy from the runners. Buy only from a shop owner as they are the sources for most of the street higglers. Look before you buy. If you like it, haggle. An 8-12" bud will run between 50 and 100.
Drinks. Most importantly will I be able to find a COLD Coke (preferably not Pepsi)? Europeans don't seem to believe in ice, barely in refrigeration. Should I bring my own soda and small cooler? Will I be able to buy a bag of ice? How much is a beer? I've read J. Buffets is like $4. 50 (ridiculous) what about most other places? Any other recommendations beside Red Stripe? (I like RS, just curious) Any rum drink suggestions that do not have pinapple, coconut or Kaluha / Tia Maria?
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Cold coke is no problem. In fact you can often find real Coca-Cola made with cane sugar. Look at the label it will just say Coca-Cola. It will NOT say Classic. Classic= corn syrup. Will be canned in Jamaica, Trinidad , Aruba. or some other Caribbean location. Red Stripe is just kind of a tradition with me. Locals drink white overproof rum straight up. Anything else is tourist. Each bartender will have a good repertoire of drinks. Just discuss the flavors and textures you want and he'll come up with something.
Money. I generally prefer to use local currency it's currently $1=$89j which I'll factor to $75j-$80j to account for fluxes and fees. Any reason to bring $j with me? (ex. In AMS you really want about 10Euros for the train from airport until reaching a local ATM, in Mexico just wait til you get there) Only reason I can think of would be for taxi to hotel, which I understand should be no problem with American $'s. Is it correct that there is a decent ATM on Hip Strip? Where? Is it the normal situation of it dispensing $j and my bank gives me pretty decent rate plus $3-$5 fee. I've read not to exchange at airport, hotel or bank but is an ATM ok?
Shopping. While I won't be doing much souvener shopping, I will need to get a few, where do you recommend? I don't forsee falling for scams nor being bothered too much by the "strong sales tactics" as I said I've been to Mexico (border towns and cruises) with no problems (except for being mugged by the Federales), I'm fairly street smart and understand it's generally a matter of staying aware of your surroundings and being respectful but taking any shit and not looking like a victim. How far is the city center shopping? Any particular shops to recommend, I enjoy the flea market/mercado atmosphere. Bargaining is not a problem, I know how to walk away when it suits me.
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Either Ja or US is fine. Most businesses will accept either. Street higglers prefer US. City Centre is a fairly long walk from Wexford and a damn long walk from Toby's. All that is there are jewelry shops and tourist crap. (although there is a great Chinese restaurant there! ) From City Centre you can walk to downtown Mobay, but that is pure local stuff. Interesting, but can be a touch scary for those that are less familiar third world travel. You may want to get to know a good taxi driver to take you around. (only red license plates + JTA decals to be safe) They can show you around to some of the areas both in and outside of town. They can keep you safe and usually provide you with *anything* you want. Find one at or near you hotel and chat with them for a while to see if you have a good vibe. A good driver can be you best asset.
Food. Damn this is going to be a problem, I'm way too picky. First and foremost NO seafood. Goat is also a no. And not too many veggies (Vegetables are what food eats)(I am however definitely a Vagatarian) I like most spices, excluding curry, HOT is fine (as long as there's a beer nearby). I know there's a KFC, BK and pizza at Bobsled. As picky as I am I really prefer to eat places I can not eat at home. Basically what I'm looking for is a good recommendation for a bbq/jerk stand. What is average costs? 2 meals a day is more than ample for me, I don't tend to be terribly afflicted with muchies, but snack suggestions are most welcome. Also, any good (not expensive) Chinese restaurants (found a great one in AMS)
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The Wexford is close to plenty of food. 2 Chinese, the Pelican (kind of a Jamaican Denny's), BK, Margauritaville, Coral Cliff, Bobsled and at least a dozen others. The Pork Pit is near by for good jerk and on some evenings there are oilcan chicken vendors on the street between Coral Cliffs and BK.
Clubs. Strip and otherwise. I've read the one at 51 market is interesting, do I need to take a taxi to it or is it near hip strip? What other strip clubs do you recommend? What are normal drink prices in the SC's? Are they similar to US clubs with lap dances, if so how much? I already understand most have negotiable FS available onsite and the bar fine situation for take-out but, pointers are always welcome. I'll probably have to check out M'ville but don't plan on spend much time (or $) there. Are there any clubs with music other than reggae (Metal or Techno, probably not but I would find it interesting to see how the locals responded to that genre) Where else do you suggest to see a good band, dance, drink, toke (any or ideally all)? I've read not to toke on the streets but what about in clubs? If the locals are doing it is it ok for me to spark one as well.
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Most of the clubs are playing a mix of dancehall, disco, hiphop, soca and reggae. There is a Reggae bar upstairs near the Bobsled. Just a very small bar with reggae music (not live) But very mellow, smoke friendly and can find anything you want there as well. If locals are lighting up, feel free to do the same.
I don't do beaches much but both Aquasol and Dr's Cave are pretty nice. Aquasol caters a bit more to locals and has arcades, go carts and all that stuff. Dr's Cave is quieter and probably a bit safer but you shouldn't have a problem at either one.
Street walkers are all over the strip and they can be quite pushy, to the point of obnoxiousness. Any of the higglers can arrange to get you to the MP as can any driver of bellman. Don't forget to get your game on with local shop and restaurant girls. They are the best and are basically free....just a normal date.
Have fun and be sure to report.
pogo
Thank you Pogo, your answers were exactly what I was looking for. A couple of point for clarification, if possible.
How much further is Toby's from the strip? The only map that shows their location puts it a couple of blocks into the water, error obviously. 5-10 minutes walking difference would be fine for the $100 difference where as an additional 20 minutes each way would factor heavily. Also, wouldn't a cab back to Toby's from say Dr. 's Cave beach or M'ville be less than 5 bucks (mainly for a couple semi-drunken evenings). You definitely tempted me to Cave Beach resort with the thought of finding drunken spring breakers, but I think I'm going a tad earlier than most spring breaks, I'll be sure to check their facilities out whether I stay there or not. Any Idea how far Pier 1 is? (heard it was good for Friday night) I found their website but good maps of Mo' Bay seem scarce. I figure, I'll have to get one locally from the tourist center, besides how difficult can it be.
One the smoke topic. Is "Mr Cool" quality sporadic or his availability? Was I supposed to ask around the "Straw Market" for him or is that a recommendation for other options? I assume the 50-100 was US$, $J would be awesome but I know better. But, an 8"-12" bud would almost certainly have to be less than an oz and I was under the impression I should haggle to about US$40 an Oz. My main concern is quality.
I will definitely check out the bar behind the Bobsled, sounds very "mellow".
Any tips on the strip club scene (especially getting to and from) beyond yours, Ford's and Billy Bobs previous reports?
Thanks Again for some Fantastic Answers.
I would also, appreciate anyone else's input.
I will definitely post reports upon my return. Hopefully, productive ones. Faust
Thank you Pogo, your answers were exactly what I was looking for. A couple of point for clarification, if possible.
How much further is Toby's from the strip? The only map that shows their location puts it a couple of blocks into the water, error obviously. 5-10 minutes walking difference would be fine for the $100 difference where as an additional 20 minutes each way would factor heavily. Also, wouldn't a cab back to Toby's from say Dr. 's Cave beach or M'ville be less than 5 bucks (mainly for a couple semi-drunken evenings). You definitely tempted me to Cave Beach resort with the thought of finding drunken spring breakers, but I think I'm going a tad earlier than most spring breaks, I'll be sure to check their facilities out whether I stay there or not. Any Idea how far Pier 1 is? (heard it was good for Friday night) I found their website but good maps of Mo' Bay seem scarce. I figure, I'll have to get one locally from the tourist center, besides how difficult can it be.
One the smoke topic. Is "Mr Cool" quality sporadic or his availability? Was I supposed to ask around the "Straw Market" for him or is that a recommendation for other options? I assume the 50-100 was US$, $J would be awesome but I know better. But, an 8"-12" bud would almost certainly have to be less than an oz and I was under the impression I should haggle to about US$40 an Oz. My main concern is quality.
I will definitely check out the bar behind the Bobsled, sounds very "mellow".
Any tips on the strip club scene (especially getting to and from) beyond yours, Ford's and Billy Bobs previous reports?
Thanks Again for some Fantastic Answers.
I would also, appreciate anyone else's input.
I will definitely post reports upon my return. Hopefully, productive ones. Faust
Toby's is at one end of the strip, Wexford is at the other end. Gloustershire and Dr Cave are in the middle. From Toby's to Wexford is around a 20 minute walk. But remember, a walk on the strip especially at night is a constant barrage of higglers and hustlers. It's interesting at first but becomes old pretty fast.
The end at Toby's is somewhat isolated and pretty scarce for restaurants and clubs. The Wexford end is actually fairly close to most of the action. In fact right next door on one side is a good Chinese restaurant and a strip club. (the only one near the strip) On the other side is the Pelican, then the BK then M-Ville and the casino.
Another option is the Caribic House. It is a very basic but clean and safe place right in the middle of the action. It is right above the bobsled cafe, next to a market, and across from the Dr Cave beach. It is often listed on hostel type of sites but you get a private room with all the basic amenities, It should run around $50 during season and maybe $35 in the off season. You'll have to call the hotel directly at 1 876 979 9387
There will be plenty of taxis, higglers and hookers right outside the entrance. Most of the taxi guys that hang out in front have been around for quite a while and can help you with anything you need.
Mr Cool's availability is sporadic plus over the last couple of years he has become a pain in the ass. He does get some good stuff but at high prices. And then he still up-sells and wants a tip. If you tell him you want to spend 100 it may end up at 250. He has been on that street for 14 years, knows every trick in the book and is only interested in the high dollar hustles.
Hit the straw market. Just outside near a vacant hotel there are usually a couple of older Rastas that have shops in there. They are good ones to talk to. The younger ones, who will try to "give" you a bracelet or some other tourist crap are the runners. The older ones that just hang out all day are the sources. They will see you as a more experienced traveler and not a tourist and will treat you right. Or, check with a good taxi driver.
If you get a chance to go to Nine Mile, that is where you will find the absolute best in Jamaica at very reasonable prices. This is where Bob Marley's home, and now grave is at. They offer a very moving tour of the grounds and his life and music. Most of the people that work there are blood relatives of Bob Marley. They don't sell ganja on the property itself....but they have the ganja fence where the neighbors will sell you anything from a $10 splif (well worth it!) to a yard long bud (negotiable). It is the good Ital stuff grown by the true Rastas. But it is a few hours from Mobay. It will probably cost 100-150 for a taxi or you can book a bus tour for a bit less. If you go on your first day, the quality and price difference for the herb may be worth it. Plus, you will experience the heart and soul of Jamaica.
Pier one is a taxi ride, probably around $10. There should be plenty of taxis to get you back or you can have your driver come back to get you. Or invite him to come along with you. (of course you'll be expected to pay the covers and bar tabs)
The only strip club on the street is next to the Wexford. I have not been in there so I have no idea what it is like. There are some other ones in town that any taxi driver can take you to. Again, you may want to invite him to join you for both security and a ride home but get it clear before hand what you will or will not pay for in the club. ie: you buy drinks but he buys his own pussy. Use Jamaican money at strip clubs and MPs for a better deal.
As you can see, a recurrent theme is the need for a good driver. A good driver can also be a good friend and escort to help you really enjoy your time there. Shop around for one that you get along with and treat him well. If you are on a budget, let him know. A good one will work with you especially if you make it fun and interesting for him and treat him as a friend rather than just a tour guide. A Jamaican will do almost anything for a friend.
When are you planning on going? I have to make a trip there sometime in the next month or so but not exactly sure when it will be yet. I'll spend a few days in Ocho Rios and then a few in Mobay.
I hope this helps a bit more. Even though I don't monger there I still love going to Jamaica as often as I can.
pogo
Thank you again, for perfect answers to my questions.
Caribic House is absolutely something I'm checking into. My main problem now is, in doing all my research, I've become torn between going to Mo'Bay or to Negril. At first, I thought, after adding transportation to and from Negril it would bump it out of my budget. But, after a little more searching, I've found I can go from airport to Negril for $20/each way (+$5tip) whereas a cab to Hip Strip would cost me about $10 bucks (+ $2tip) not much of a difference. On the other hand getting from place to place in Negril seems more difficult than the 20 minute walk of Mo' Bay. Side note: the shuttle service (Clive's) also offer a prepaid cell phone for $20/week including about 5 min. Do I need/want one?
It seems nicer hotels (Xtabi, Devine Destiny, Sunset) are available within my meager range. Seemingly, at a lower cost and higher value than Mo' Bay. The cliffs near Rick's sound very cool, as well. It also, seems a slightly less intense hustler factor in Negril (unsure of this) but still enough to find what I'm looking for (I. E quality smokables). From my "research" Negril seems to have a little less "hustle'n'bustle" which I'm not sure if I prefer or not. I'm sooo decisive (grrr). But, Negril also seems to be more exclusively touristy with fewer options of non-pro action. But that is not a key factor. What about Strip Clubs in Negril? Decisions, decisions, decisions, I guess I need to make up my mind soon as I arrive in 10 days (Thursday 3/5/09).
Thanks Again Pogo, no matter where I choose, your answers have been EXTREMELY helpful.
Faust
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Hey guys,
I'm going to Montego Bay in June what is the best place to stay and to find some good looking girl for fun let me know thanks.
Thank you again, for perfect answers to my questions.
Caribic House is absolutely something I'm checking into. My main problem now is, in doing all my research, I've become torn between going to Mo'Bay or to Negril. At first, I thought, after adding transportation to and from Negril it would bump it out of my budget. But, after a little more searching, I've found I can go from airport to Negril for $20/each way (+$5tip) whereas a cab to Hip Strip would cost me about $10 bucks (+ $2tip) not much of a difference. On the other hand getting from place to place in Negril seems more difficult than the 20 minute walk of Mo' Bay. Side note: the shuttle service (Clive's) also offer a prepaid cell phone for $20/week including about 5 min. Do I need/want one?
It seems nicer hotels (Xtabi, Devine Destiny, Sunset) are available within my meager range. Seemingly, at a lower cost and higher value than Mo' Bay. The cliffs near Rick's sound very cool, as well. It also, seems a slightly less intense hustler factor in Negril (unsure of this) but still enough to find what I'm looking for (I. E quality smokables). From my "research" Negril seems to have a little less "hustle'n'bustle" which I'm not sure if I prefer or not. I'm sooo decisive (grrr). But, Negril also seems to be more exclusively touristy with fewer options of non-pro action. But that is not a key factor. What about Strip Clubs in Negril? Decisions, decisions, decisions, I guess I need to make up my mind soon as I arrive in 10 days (Thursday 3/5/09).
Thanks Again Pogo, no matter where I choose, your answers have been EXTREMELY helpful.
Faust
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Good herb is everywhere. Just be picky, tell them you have been to Jamaica many times and don't want tourist prices or quality. Look for a true Rasta. They usually have a very calm, non-pushy attitude and a look of kindness and warmth. But even the crap you'll get from the hustlers will still make you VERY happy...so don't sweat it. Grab something quick on the street to hold you until you find the right connection. Again, a good taxi man is your friend.
You can get to either Negril or Ocho Rios for $20.....which brings up another viable option.
Mobay is an urban environment. Along the Strip you can walk to almost anything you want or a quick taxi for a few places like the Pier, good strip clubs MPs etc.
Negril is a bit more rural/resort. You really can't walk to everything and where ever you are there will only be a few bars/restaurants etc nearby. However, taxis are everywhere and driving in the area is pretty easy if you want to rent a car or scooter. I would NOT recommend this anywhere else in Jamaica, but Negril isn't too bad.
In Negril, you could get an evening pass to Hedo II for about $80. That gets you all the food and drink you can handle. Things get extremely wild on the nude side of the resort as well as at the piano bar and disco. There will be amateur , swinger and pro action available. If you stay next door at Point Village you can walk to Hedo for your night pass....or.... either a little stealth or a few bucks to security and you can sneak in via the nude beach at Point Village. I have done that a few times. However...that end on Negril is mostly large all inclusives and you are quite a way from the West End, where there are more bars and restaurants as well as inexpensive hotels. Mid town is mostly beach scene, much of it clothing optional.
Ochi is another option. Still a bit urban, but tons of places you can go on foot. There is a Martgueritaville, a Hard Rock and tons of other places to go within walking distance.
Rooms on the Beach is around $90 per night and is very nice and a great value for the price. Sandcastles can sometimes be found online for for around $65 - $85 with some rates that include a pretty decent breakfast. All the rooms have a kitchenette as well. Pier View is in the middle of town right across from the casino. Should be around $50 and I believe it also has a kitchen. No web presence but their phone is
+1 876 974 2607
There are 2 straw markets, one behind Island Village and another in the center of town. Both have good supplies available. Plenty of guys on the street have stuff, but the markets are the main sources.
Street walker hustle is not as intense as in Mobay, but is available. There is a strip club right behind Soni Plaza (big tourist duty-free mall) that is open during the day as well as at night. I haven't been there or heard anything good or bad about it. You can get "massage" service there as well.
Then there is Shades. http://www.shadesnightclub.com/programme.htm Check out the photo at the bottom of the page and also click on the Freaky Freaky night link. This as about as hard core of a strip club as you will ever see. And of course a full menu of services are available for dine in or take out.
Since you like the herb and if you go to either Ochi or Mobay, I still strongly suggest that you splurge on a trip to 9 Mile. A private driver will run around $80-100 or a tour desk at your hotel can get you on a group tour for a lot less. Expect it to be rather smokey on the bus ride back. The produce you will find there will be the best on the island at a very fair asking price. Of course you can still negotiate a better price as well. It is more than worth it as that same quality in town is very expensive, especially if you include some trial and error in finding what you want. It is not really an option from Negril as it is too far and would be too costly.
Ooops...just noticed that you are already in Jamaica so sorry if this came a bit late to be of help but I'll post it anyway.
Hope you are having a blast!
pogo
Fun And Sun
07-09-09, 00:21
Thank you again, for perfect answers to my questions.
Caribic House is absolutely something I'm checking into. My main problem now is, in doing all my research, I've become torn between going to Mo'Bay or to Negril. At first, I thought, after adding transportation to and from Negril it would bump it out of my budget. But, after a little more searching, I've found I can go from airport to Negril for $20/each way (+$5tip) whereas a cab to Hip Strip would cost me about $10 bucks (+ $2tip) not much of a difference. On I guess I need to make up my mind soon as I arrive in 10 days (Thursday 3/5/09).
Thanks Again Pogo, no matter where I choose, your answers have been EXTREMELY helpful.
FaustHey Faust,
Haven't been to Jamaica for a very long time, and it might be close to a year until I get back there (heading for Kenya in August for some nice ebony action though!). Was wondering how your trip went, do you have a report for the Board?
This part of the Board really could use it since it seems so stale.
F & S
Naked Gunz
07-22-09, 04:00
Don't know if he still works there but Dean, The Wexford hotel driver, is a great resource for mongering. I went there blind and he saved my trip. He even drove me to Kingston, which was an all night trip, but he made it more than worth it. I hear the roads are better now and it's not an all nighter as b4..NG
OyiboAfrica
10-31-09, 19:27
Hey guys
Plan a trip to montego in the second week of January 2010 for 10 days. Any recommendations concerning some nice jamaican ladies? Will stay in an apartment.
Thanks for any advice / help
Lone Biker
11-03-09, 19:45
I was reading through the older reports today and found a few mentions of guys staying at the El Greco. This surprised me; I've only been to MoBay once (with the wife, so no hobby fun), we stayed at El Greco. This is not a hotel I would choose if I was bringing guests back, because there were not only security guards at the entrances to the property, there were guards in every stairwell. One of the regular guard posts was right outside the door of our room. Most of the time the guard was a woman, I can't imagine that she'd be an easy bribe.
That was in April 09, maybe things were different longer ago? I would like to hear what others who've stayed at El Greco have to say.
Day #6:
My regular never showed up so I never really gave her muc, maybe $100 for 4 days. Well Andre came over by 10: 15 and we took off. When we arrived in Montego Bay I checked out Caribic House but I didn't like it so I settled on Toby's for $89 a night.
We went to the first house and there was 2 girls but mine was no where in site and they called her. $120 was the house fee for 24 hours and I bumped into one of the girls later on and she said they liked a $300 tip for that period. They over state everything here.
We went to Oceanview for a massage, $40 and a $10 tip but the one I picked was an "8". Andre had business in town so I hung there about 90 minutes more. Its a cool place. My girl has a guy in California and told me $300 a day in Negril, or $2100 for the week. By the end of the 90 she was down to $700 for the week. I think I can get her for $500 for the week.
I was walking around and there are many girls here, moving around aimlessly, not sure what the deal is but he said they all work on the side.
There is Tourist Police on this strip until 2am so its very safe. The taxi was $5 to go 8 blocks so I shall walk it. There are cops every other block.
We were driving around and spotted this hole in the wall strip club downtown. 200 to get in and 12 dancers. Well there were 6 dogs, 1 cute one and one hot one. She asked me if I would buy her a drink but I asked what else they do there and she said, fucking for 2000 for 30 minutes in the back, bingo!
Last night there were three ugly hookers on the street here and about 10 in the casino and then there was Kim, 5 ft 4, 110 pounds, flat tummy, small tits and smooth leggs. She wanted $150 but I said $50 and walked away. She settled for $70 and we went back. She looked 24 but was 31. She lkept trying to upsell but I told her to stop it already. She was a solid "8" in my book.
We talked about going to Negril for the week at a later time.
The girls are here and after they know you I am guessing about $200. $600 for their time for a week in Negril. The girls from the stripclubs might be the way to go.
Western Union is here and many girls think they have gold between their leggs. My trip will be over and I had 3 so far, not the 10 I wanted but its trip 1.
Took a swim today, the place is empty and the front desk said have a maid wash my clothes so I asked one and its 500J for a weeks worth, not bad. I will be repacked and ready for my next jump off.
Made it downtown, got a haircut and shave for 500. Bought a 20 oz Pepsi for 55 and found an internet for 200. Will look around for a place with girls around here soon.
Lets get to the center center, its great, girls are everywhere. I was walking and this guy walked up to me and said, you know me, but I kept walking and it was the guy on the plane that I was chatting with. He will come get me at 9 and take me to the stripclubs. Met some girls that would do a massage for $50 for two hours but I passed.
The students are out, the college girls are here and the ones in training acadamies are here. I saw about 25 cute ones walking, my head is spinning.
The tourist police are in the main areas and the regular police are here in the center.
Saw this girl with a different type of haircut, after a few minutes, the four of us were off to a Chinese restaurant. She couldn't go swimming because she was having her period and did't want to stick a tampon up there. She said something in Spanish, turns out her grandma is Cuban so she is a quarter Spanish and yes I have pictures.
She has cramps but wants to meet me later. She is a country girl. I was talking to about 8 different ones before I setteled on her.
Back out there again, saw one that may have been a tourist but wasn't. We chatted and chatted and I told her that I loke longterm friends. She has a visa and was in NY so I told her, I have no time now but if I ever see you in NY or here in April, I would buy her dinner, but not now. Well she gave me her e mail address. A girl with a Visa and a good job, I love Jamaica.
Took a route taxi to see where it goes and guess what, it goes to the airport for 70 and right straight downtown as well. Second cheapest to Tobago where you can walk into the airport.
Well Kim came back at 6:08 as planned and we went to eat. I choose a place I passed and we split a large pizza then went back to my place. We fucked once and just hung. I could have done a second pop if I wanted as well. I gave her $100 as we agreed on, she was there for 4 hours and we walked back to her spot. Yes they will negotiate after that first meeting. She was kissing me and I took pictures. Tonight she will spend the whole night. I told her I was here until Saturday.
Had breakfast at Burger King for 300 rather than the hotel for 1100.
Took the route taxi for 70 to the airport. Used the Kiosk to get my boarding pass and I am back downtown. I will get to the airport at 4:15 for my 5:25 flight. So simple here.
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Gentleman Travel
11-12-09, 18:24
I'm heading to Montego Bay in December for a conference.
Staying at the Rose Hall Resort. It's out past Half Moon Bay.
Anyone know if I can bring a local girl in there?
It's a fair distance into Montego Bay (15 miles) so I might not be going into town much. Any good places for finding girls outside of the city?
I was thinking I would just ask hotel staff about girls, maybe some of them are pimping? But I guess I will get stuck with a higher price structure if I work from within the hotel. Any idea what would be normal for a few hours or overnight?
I'm 50, white and average build. Obviously I am expecting to pay for play. I don't really like the idea of going into Mobay and cruising the street for hookers or some of rougher bars. Where can a tourist troll for girls in a relatively safe way?
I'm heading to Montego Bay in December for a conference.
Staying at the Rose Hall Resort. It's out past Half Moon Bay.
Anyone know if I can bring a local girl in there?
It's a fair distance into Montego Bay (15 miles) so I might not be going into town much. Any good places for finding girls outside of the city?
I was thinking I would just ask hotel staff about girls, maybe some of them are pimping? But I guess I will get stuck with a higher price structure if I work from within the hotel. Any idea what would be normal for a few hours or overnight?
I'm 50, white and average build. Obviously I am expecting to pay for play. I don't really like the idea of going into Mobay and cruising the street for hookers or some of rougher bars. Where can a tourist troll for girls in a relatively safe way?
Unfortunately, the Rose Hall area is not a real good mongering location. It may be in the future with some of the new developments that are underway...but pretty dead right now. Not sure about bringing guests, but as a rule the only places where it is a problem is in the all inclusives.
There are still some options.
If you got game you can always try for some amateurs. Girls that work at the hotel or any of the nearby shops are always possible. Many Jamaican girls are intrigued by Americans. Jamaican men tend to be abusive where us 50 something Americans tend to be appreciative and considerate.
Talk to the bellmen, bartenders and taxi drivers. They will usually have some resources, but will expect a big tip for the service. But at least you'll probably get something reliable. Same for any party supplies.
Have a taxi guy take you to the massage parlors. The parlors are safe and comfortable. The driver will wait for you. But...you will of course have to pay him and tip him (negotiate the fare before you get in the car). You will also pay slightly more at the parlor as they also tip the driver. But this is safe, sure and you are guaranteed to get what you want.
Spend an evening on the Hip Strip. It is safe and fun and good a mix of tourist, upscale local and professional girls. Plenty of bars, food, casinos and pussy. Margueritiville is touristy, fun, open all day and at night, has good food.
Grab a table streetside at the Bobsled Cafe (also owned by Jimmy Buffett). Have a bite or a few beers. Anything you may want will pass by right next to you. Dr Cave Beach is nice during the day and has the Groovy Grouper at night(another JB enterprise). It's a mellow laid back bar and restaurant.
The casino is across from M-ville. Plenty to be had there.
Even if you don't find action (unlikely), you will have a good, safe time on the strip. It is worth the trip. You can walk around anywhere on the strip safely. You will be approached by higglers for ganja, women, and whatever. They are the least reliable sources, but are not a threat. Just be friendly, respectful (respect is big in Jamaica) and tell them you have all you need and there will be no problem. Most of them are pretty cool.
I'll be there in December. It is one of my favorite places.
Have fun
pogo
Gentleman Travel
11-20-09, 15:47
Unfortunately, the Rose Hall area is not a real good mongering location. ...
I'll be there in December. It is one of my favorite places.
Have fun
pogo
Thanks for the background info.
I will be in MoBay Dec 7-11, when is your trip?
Thanks for the background info.
I will be in MoBay Dec 7-11, when is your trip?
I'm not quite sure when I'll be there. It just depends on when my clients are ready for me and when I finish up with other islands. I usually book my trips on about one week in advance or less.
As an example, I'm in Curacao right now. I'm supposed to leave here early next week but it is looking like I may have to stay on at least few extra days. That won't bother me at all as I only get here once or twice a year and Camp Alegre is as close to heaven as you will find in this hemisphere.
However, the timing of your visit is within the general time frame for me to be in Jamaica. If it works out that way I'll let you know and we can get together. I usually stay on the strip but I have stayed at Rose Hall a few times as well. It's a nice place.
If you get a chance to do a day trip I highly recommend visiting 9 Mile. It was Bob Marley's home and he is interred there now. It is the true soul of Jamaica. Even though it is a tourist attraction, it is not touristy. It is better than any of the other tours. Check the price at the tour desk at the hotel, and then talk to a taximan and negotiate a deal.
Even if it is a few dollars more it will be worth it. The tours will take you to attractions but with plenty of kickback shopping stops as well. With a private car, you can do what you want at your pace and a good driver will know a few other interesting places as well that aren't on the tours. Be sure to hit a good jerk pit for lunch.
pogo
Has anyone been to Moods latly there were two girls i meet at campo alegre that strip at that club in montego bay there names were cristal and candy. I last visted them in Oct a week after they finish up at campo in 09 and last month in campo they said they have not come back.
I tried out the ocean view massage centre yesterday.
It is very easy to find. If you are coming from the airport go around the big traffic circle about 1/2 way and you will see Queens Drive. This is referred to by local as Top Road. It runs on the mountain above the Hip Strip (Bottom Road). About a mile up Quees road you will see the Hi-Lites Cafe on your right. Turn in there and follow the driveway down to a house. That is the Ocean View massage centre. You won't get confused as there is only one house on that driveway. You need to press a buzzer for admittance. You will then be escorted to the bar and handed a menu of services. There is a delightful fragrance of ganja in the air.
While you are checking out the menu or having a drink about 10 girls will come out and line up in front of you. Overall they were a pretty good looking selection ranging from 6 to 8. Nothing bad, nothing spectacular.
I chose Alaya a short little spinner and the basic "sensuous" massage for $40us. It was described on the menu as a light massage ending in ejaculation. We went to an office where I paid the fee and then to a room with a bathroom/shower and a fairly large room with a big massage table.
The view from the room is spectacular. But I was there in the afternoon and there was no AC and it was HOT. She turned on a couple of fans and that helped. We both stripped to full nude and I hopped onto the table. She did a light baby oil rub on my legs and told me to turn over. Then she did the same on the front of my legs. I reached out and rubbed her breast at which point she said any more and I must pay more. No problem, I expected that. She asked what I wanted. I said I wanted DATY and FS. She quoted $200us. She would not back down on the price for FS but offered DATY and BJ for $120. I countered with everything for $150. No go. So I went for the 120 deal and got busy. DATY would have been tasty if not for the fact that we were both sweating from the heat. But I got her off (who knows for sure with hookers) and then it was my turn. CBJ was not bad, but not spectacular. I showered off and she escorted me to the door.
Overall. Not bad, not great.compared to the Jamaican SWs I have seen, these girls were way better. They were for the most part slender and very pretty. Perhaps some of the other girls may have been more negotiable. I also didn't feel a great connection with my girl and perhaps another might have been better. But that's all part of mongering. I would also go at night when it might be a little cooler.
Compared to other parts of the Caribbean, Jamaica is very expensive. I spent a total of $160. That would be 4 sessions in SXM or and overnight with a model/sex artist in Bangkok. I can even beat the price and service in the US.
Would I go again? Maybe, but it is certainly not a reason to travel to Jamaica. But if you have the itch and can afford the scratch it can get the job done.
Wagstaff
If you bypass the pros there are literally thousands of beautiful girls that would be happy to spend time with you for little are nothing, the nice girls do not want to be assiociated with hookers and will not ask for money, remember the people are very poor by our standards, buy them a few drinks a little food and when they leave give them a little something to help them out and they will love you for it. The jamacians are wonderful people and fun to be with treat them with respect and you will have a great time, see my post on Negril.
Fun And Sun
07-13-10, 22:38
I tried out the ocean view massage centre yesterday.
It is very easy to find. If you are coming from the airport go around the big traffic circle about 1/2 way and you will see Queens Drive. This is referred to by local as Top Road. It runs on the mountain above the Hip Strip (Bottom Road). About a mile up Quees road you will see the Hi-Lites Cafe on your right. Turn in there and follow the driveway down to a house. That is the Ocean View massage centre. You won't get confused as there is only one house on that driveway. You need to press a buzzer for admittance. You will then be escorted to the bar and handed a menu of services. There is a delightful fragrance of ganja in the air.
While you are checking out the menu or having a drink about 10 girls will come out and line up in front of you. Overall they were a pretty good looking selection ranging from 6 to 8. Nothing bad, nothing spectacular.
I chose Alaya a short little spinner and the basic "sensuous" massage for $40us. It was described on the menu as a light massage ending in ejaculation. We went to an office where I paid the fee and then to a room with a bathroom/shower and a fairly large room with a big massage table.
The view from the room is spectacular. But I was there in the afternoon and there was no AC and it was HOT. She turned on a couple of fans and that helped. We both stripped to full nude and I hopped onto the table. She did a light baby oil rub on my legs and told me to turn over. Then she did the same on the front of my legs. I reached out and rubbed her breast at which point she said any more and I must pay more. No problem, I expected that. She asked what I wanted. I said I wanted DATY and FS. She quoted $200us. She would not back down on the price for FS but offered DATY and BJ for $120. I countered with everything for $150. No go. So I went for the 120 deal and got busy. DATY would have been tasty if not for the fact that we were both sweating from the heat. But I got her off (who knows for sure with hookers) and then it was my turn. CBJ was not bad, but not spectacular. I showered off and she escorted me to the door.
Overall. Not bad, not great.compared to the Jamaican SWs I have seen, these girls were way better. They were for the most part slender and very pretty. Perhaps some of the other girls may have been more negotiable. I also didn't feel a great connection with my girl and perhaps another might have been better. But that's all part of mongering. I would also go at night when it might be a little cooler.
Compared to other parts of the Caribbean, Jamaica is very expensive. I spent a total of $160. That would be 4 sessions in SXM or and overnight with a model/sex artist in Bangkok. I can even beat the price and service in the US.
Would I go again? Maybe, but it is certainly not a reason to travel to Jamaica. But if you have the itch and can afford the scratch it can get the job done.
Wagstaff
My two cents on Ocean View Massage, formerly known as Relaxation and Rejuvenation Centre: If you are in Mo'Bay for only a few hours, like getting of a cruise ship, making an airline connection, or whatever then it is worthwhile to head there.
Otherwise it is way too expensive compared to other sources of P4P in Jamaica. USD 100 is generous for a girl to stay all night and most of the morning if you have a bit more time, and there are so many girls there that are willing to go with you "for free" if you stay there for a holiday. (They will want you to buy them little presents, clothes, money to buy food for their baby, money to pay for xyz etc.
If you decide to head to Ocean View Massage, then have the taxi take you to Hi Lites cafe, have him drop you of there, and wait for him to leave. Then head down the drive way to the massage parlour. It is the only house under the large Red Stripe sign, so you can't miss it, but there is no sign on the door or anything like that. On your way back, just grab a taxi from Top Road, loads of them come by there. Reason for this convoluted strategy - save the $10 commission that they pay the driver and then pass on to you with the more expensive menu.
Sorry, a bit of a rambling post...
Fun And Sun
07-13-10, 22:49
Got back from Mo'Bay not too long ago, and think that a lot of things have changed, although not necessarily for the worst, and changes aren't that big, but thought that I would post some updated information about things that will hopefully be useful for you fellow sex adventurers out there (not necessarily anything new, but reading back on this thread it has been a while since the information has been updated). Looking forward to hearing reactions from others that go to Jamaica on what your take is on my musings.
OK, let's start with Margaritaville. I think they have gotten a lot more strict about allowing in girls that are there "to work" rather than to have fun. I have mongered in loads of countries, and many times in Jamaica, so think myself of pretty skilled in picking out girls that are working rather than there for fun (only). Not really a problem since especially on Saturdays there are loads of girls that, to use the local term, sell p-ssy, hanging around outside Margaritaville and up towards former Moods, now called Xtatic.
They also have some sort of street patrol (men and women wearing white shirts) strolling up and down the Hip Strip day and night, think they stop at 2am, keeping the hustlers as well as the street walkers away or at least in check. Not necessarily a bad development, the hustlers are a pain and am not a fan of street walkers.
Oh, and here is a picture of Margaritaville taken from Coral Cliff casino. As you can see the establishment isn't exactly the size of legendary establishment's like now defunct Discotheca Help or Insomnia... In front of the pic are two of the waitresses from Coral Cliff, some of these waitresses are pretty hot and am sure if you got a bit of game then you can get their numbers.
Fun And Sun
07-13-10, 23:07
The information on strip clubs is up to date if yo scroll back on this board. There are loads of strip clubs/go-gos in Mo'Bay, Moods (now Xtatic) if you walk past Margaritaville and then past Wexford. There's a big painted sign on the building so you can't miss it. Things here start late, so doesn't really get going until 12:30 at night and weekends are best. They supposedly now have a live sex show on late night around 2:30-3:00 on Saturdays.
If you go a bit further down towards Pork Pit then there is another strip club there, but I didn't go there since I didn't have time.
In town there is the infamous Goldfingers (didn't go this trip), walked past Club Las Vegas but think they have moved from market street to the next street, but maybe I was just high (on life, nothing else...) and remember wrong...
If you go to a strip club in town, always go with a trusted driver and have him wait for you until you are ready to leave. I would not pay the driver more than 1,000 jamaican for this since he will collect 500 from management and all he has to do is sit in the car.
If you go to one of the strip clubs closer to Margaritaville, you will have to make your way through loads of hustlers/touts while walking there. Just keep going calmly, and don't let any of them walk you up to the door since then they will claim a commission from the club for supposedly taking you there. This will, ofcourse, be added to your bill or what you have to pay for entrance. Do not believe any of their stories that they can get you cheaper entrance, and ignore their stories that they can hook you up with a prettier girl for cheaper, etc. There really is no reason to use the hustlers for anything, and you will quickly find your feet and be able to set things up for yourself.
Here is a picture taken from my balcony at The Wexford. If you go left at the sign for the Chinese restaurant then that takes you to Xtatic. If you keep going down towards the turn of the road in the picture then this takes you to the next strip club, forgot it's name.
Fun And Sun
07-13-10, 23:14
"No, this is not your first trip to Jamaica. You have been to Jamaica many times, and you are here for several weeks."
Most people you talk to will quite quickly ask you if this is your first time to Jamaica. Remember, this is not a social question, you are being asked this to see if you have an idea of what prices are (for whatever you are looking to get, a taxi ride, a girl, some of the local herbiage, etc).
Answering that this is your first trip shows the person that not only don't you really know the lay of the land yet, you are also naive enough to tell someone that this is your first trip. (This holds for almost all countries you monger in, but it bears repeating for Jamaica since this is probably one of the more advanced and difficult, and one of the more fun, mongering destinations that there are.)
I am looking for two girls that dance at Moods under the name of Cristai and Candy i meet them at campo Alegre and spent a week with them on the island.
Wrongedswed
08-21-10, 13:41
We would like some suggestions on inexpensive hotels(40-60/nite possible?) that is near the action.
Wrongedswed
08-21-10, 14:01
Has anyone tried this hotel?
GF?
Has anyone tried this hotel?
GF?
It's not really near the action. Try the Caribic House, right on the strip and in your price range. You can search the forum and I think you can find the phone number. No website that I know of.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g147311-d155088-Reviews-Caribic_House-Montego_Bay_Jamaica.html
pogo
Fun And Sun
10-04-10, 22:40
Goldfingers is now closed since the owner got shot a while back. Some new management tried to keep it going, but didn't run it as well as the old owner used to. (He was a real cool guy that lived several years in London, and was sad to hear the news that he has passed away.)
For info on some clubs within walking distance of the Hip Strip, see my post further down this thread. Moods has a freaky show on Saturdays that is worth attending, but it starts late, around 4am.
There is also a go-go in Aquasol (yes, that is Aquasol beach) called Dreamz. They do a freaky show on Mondays, and it is an all you can drink deal for USD 30 or if you pay in Jamaican Dollars, 2,000. Their website, which is pretty useless, is www.mobayfreakyparties.com This was pretty worthwhile for a Monday night, they had four "freaks" (the girls that fuck each other and the customers) on stage, and the show started early with banana sucking, lesbian show, pussy eating contest, dick sucking contest, and finished around four with a free for all with all the girls and the guys that had come on stage. This was pretty worthwhile for a Monday evening when nothing much is happening elsewhere in Mo'Bay.
In town there are a number of small gogos that cater to locals, worth checking out even though most of the girls are a bit to thick for my taste.
There are also two gogos if you head towards the airport, one before you get to the airport, and one about a five minute drive past the airport. The girls at the second one are not shy... There are also several gogos if you take the road towards Negril within a few minutes drive from Mo'Bay.
In my view it is not worthwhile to take out a girl from a go go. You need to pay her barfine, and she has very high expectations for how much she will be paid to come with you at night. Similarly, the rooms at the gogos are pretty dirty, costly to rent, and the girls have high expectations for how much you will pay them to come in the room with you. Much better to get their cell phone numbers and call them the next day. They are all happy to come to your hotel for a few hours of fun for a pretty good price.
Also, at Moods in particular, and at lots of other gogos as well, there are actually quite a few girls hanging out. A lot of these girls are available to go with you if you want to, but they don't work for the gogo so there is no barfine, and they vary from pretty hardened pros, to semi-pros, to quarter pros... Be a bit careful though, some of them are non-pros (which shouldn't stop you from hitting on them) and some of them are there with their boyfriends, so approach with a bit of care. Make eye contact, smile, if she smiles back then walk over and talk to her.
Fun And Sun
10-04-10, 23:06
Massage Parlours aren't really my scene, even for day time play (much better and cheaper to have a girl come meet me at the beach, then take her to my hotel room). However, here is some information that will hopefully be useful for fellow sex adventurers:
Mo'Bay has loads of massage parlours in addition to what used to be called Relaxation and Rejuvenation Center and is now called something else. (This is the massage parlour that is located on Top Road, right next to the big Red Strip sign.) All drivers that stand around on the Hip Strip are very keen to take you there, for the reason that it pays them the highest commission (USD 10). This massage parlour is the most expensive one, both in terms of cost of going to the room with the girl at minimum USD 40, and the girls start their bidding at USD 150 for full service, which is ridiculous for Jamaica.
If a driver suggests to take you to that one, say that you don't like it, and they will start listing out other possibilities. Here are coordinates for one on the hip strip:
Starting out at Dr Cave Beach, facing away from the ocean, turn left. Walk past the Havana Lounge, and be on the look out for a sign for Montego Bay Institute of Technology. At this yellow building, turn right into the side street. (Politely ignore all the touts trying to get you to go to the nearby craft market.) Keep going until you are past the yellow building (about 25 yards) and you see a fence. Where there is a turn left through the fence, walk in there. To your left is a "restaurant" that is more like a shack and you can order food through the window and there is nowhere to sit, and to your right as you look straight ahead is a second Jamaican restaurant with a pool table outside. (This restaurant has good food for about 350 Jamaican, so it is cheaper and better to eat there than at the hip strip. I think this place is only open during the day time though.) Walk past the restaurant, and look out for a white door. This has a door bell that says emergency on it. Wonder what sort of emergency they have in mind... :) Ring the bell, wait for a few minutes, and you will be let in. Have a seat, look at the menu, wait for the girls to be introduced, and enjoy. Prices here are Jamaican 1,800 for the girl to go in the room with you (that is about USD 20) and you can have full service for about Jamaican 4,000 to 6,000. That is USD 50 to 75. Location is a bit worse than the place on Top Road, but service is better.
If you struggle to find it, ask someone. Give them Jamaican 100 to help you with this, but don't let them ring the door bell for you since then you will get stuck with the higher price menu to pay their commission.
There is one more massage parlour if you head towards the airport which I have not been to.
There is also a massage parlour on the third floor of an office building in town, but get a driver to take you since it's a bit difficult to find I think. There are also other massage parlours in Mo'Bay, but I think they are too pricey and not that much fun, so can't add to much on this scene.
Fun And Sun
10-04-10, 23:20
To update on Wexford Hotel, this place is not nearly as girl friendly as it used to be. A lot of frowning when you bring in girls, sometimes a bit of arguing whether "visiting hours" are still going in the day time, a night receptionist that is a total dork (as proof of this, he wears sunglasses at night when he is at work). Extra person charge of USD 20 at night, sometimes outright refusal to bring in guests in the day time. Night receptionist will ignore that you have an extra guest and the extra guest charge for a bribe of JMD 1,000. This used to be a cool hotel, but after a renovation, which to me looks like all they did was to move the reception and paint a little bit they have gotten a lot less friendly to our hobby. Would not stay there again.
Gloucestershire was closed on my last two visits. Supposedly for refurbishment, but didn't look like any work was going on. A shame since this hotel is in an excellent location in the middle of the hip strip.
Toby's Resort was great though. Unlimited visitors in the day time at no charge, a courtesy tip to the security guards of 100 Jamaican for them to ignore that I walk around the building with the reception area when I am with a girl, that's all. If spotted by the receptionist, then all she makes you do is sign the girl in, but there is no charge in the day time for this. In the evenings there is an extra person charge of USD 20, but reception closes at 11pm (and nothing in Mo'Bay starts before midnight) so you can just work things out with security who are supposed to collect the extra person charge. (Don't want to post more than than comment in order not to get some people that were good to me in trouble, but PM me if you want more details on how to work around security.)
Fun And Sun
10-07-10, 21:57
The place to go on Friday nights is Pier 1, pretty much everyone goes there on that night. Lots of providers, and also lots of semi-pros, quarter-pros, non-pros, civilians, and touristas. Some of the touristas are pretty hot...
To get in is 500 Jamaican, and there is no point to show up before midnight. In terms of location, it is located along the water front, and you get there through a bit of an industrial/warehouse area. It's not a good idea to try to walk there late at night since it is far and next to down town Mo'Bay, so take a taxi from the hip strip. This will be a bit costly at 300-400 jamaican since route taxis don't go there. To get back is more expensive. The drivers all collude and try for USD 20, USD 10, 1,000 jamaican type of prices. I think the best option is to call your regular driver, and pay him 1,000 jamaican to both take you there and to take you back after (this is too expensive, but avoids a lot of hassle). If you don't have a driver then negotiate something like with the driver that takes you there. Do not try to walk home when you leave since this is not safe, if your driver strands you outside Pier 1 by not showing up then just bite the bullet and pay the expensive price.
Due to the entrance fee, loads of not very good looking street girls and hustlers stand around outside. Just ignore them when you walk in, and when you come out don't let one of the hustlers walk you to the car since he will demand a tip for showing you where it is.
Pier 1 is fun. The set up is that you walk in and there is an open air area under a roof, with a large bar in the middle. There is a lot of space around the bar area where people stand around and talk as well as dance, and the music is mostly jamaican dancehall and not top 40 crap. Sadly a few all inclusives has started providing mini-bus services for their guests to Pier 1, so there is a growing number of lamester civilians there, but let's hope this place does not go down hill too fast because of that. The bartender to customer ratio is not sufficient, so it will take you a little while to get a drink. If you tip jamaican 50 each time you get a drink then this will get you served much faster the next time you come for a drink. At the end of the open area there is a pier, thus Pier 1, where people go to smoke ganja, and get away from the loud music. If you want to smoke then bring your own smoking supplies since it is expensive to get it on the pier.
Friday night at Pier 1 is a great night to gather phone numbers, so move around a bit and talk to lots of girls. Remember that all of them are not professionals, but they can still be had if you talk smoothly and be nice. I have spotted a few real stunners there, but the super hot providers will get snapped up quite quickly and come at a hefty (by jamaican standards) price. Avoid standing around the bar area unless you are shy and want the pros to approach you. The pros will approach discretely since being to blatant about it will get them kicked out of there and banned, what they do is that they come stand next to you and dance, try to make eye contact, and then if you seem interested then they come up and ask you for a light, a cigarette, or similar. The later it gets the more aggressive they get in their approach. If you are new to mongering, and don't know how to recognise the pros and semi-pros, they are the girls that look a bit bored, stand in a little group or by themselves, and are not approached by the jamaican men (who know that they are pros and thus no point in flirting with them).
On other nights they sometimes have little shows, karaoke and similar, which is nice if you want somewhere to take your local non-pro girl friend for a nice and relaxed evening. She will like this since that takes you both away from the mongering scene around the Hip Strip.
The food at Pier 1 is crap and expensive, so don't go there for dinner even though it is a restaurant on other nights.
Fun And Sun
10-07-10, 22:14
Any experienced monger knows that a local cell phone is a must have accessory on a mongering trip longer than a few days, and particularly so in Jamaica since there is no day time scene and it is hard to meet hot girls on week day evenings sometimes as well too.
A cell phone is also a must have accessory if you want to try to get with a non-pro girl, or two non-pro girls...
There are two options to acquiring a local cell phone, bring an unlocked phone from home and buy a chip for 500 jamaican, or buy the cheapest local phone available which will cost you about 2,000 jamaican. You will need to show your passport to get the chip since that is jamaican law, so take your passport with you to the store or you will have to go back to your hotel and get it and stand in line again. Making cell phone calls and sending texts is very cheap in jamaica, so don't load your phone with more than 500 jamaican of credit for two weeks. Topping up is expensive, so do a big top up in the store when you get your phone/chip.
There are two digicell stores that I know of in Mo'Bay, one on the hip strip towards the end (close to Buccaneers/Jolly Rogers so on the opposite end from Margaritaville) and one in town. The one in town has a much better selection of phones, and going into town to get your phone/chip is a good way to go on your first venture into down town so my recommendation is to head there in the morning of your second day in Jamaica. To get to downtown digicell, either ask a taxi to take you there (for 300 jamaican) or take a route taxi, get of at taxi central, and walk straight down the street past the gas station and a bit further. The digicell store is on the left side of the street.
Having acquired your new cell phone, go have some lunch and as a challenge try to get the waitress' phone number. Then walk over to the local shopping mall, and flirt with girls that are hanging around, that work in stores etc. This is so much easier than you think if you do it with a smile, act nicely, etc. Say things like "I just got a new phone, do you mind if I try it out by ringing you?" Believe me, this will get you her number in eight out of ten cases. Then ask her what she is doing for dinner, ask her to have coffee with you, or something. Make it your mission not to return from downtown with your new phone until you have the number of five hotties! :)
Some more musings/tips on cell phones:
Don't lend your phone to girls or anyone else without watching carefully, since they will text themselves credit from your phone otherwise.
You can use your home cell phone on roaming too (US phones work in Jamaica) but this will be expensive, and girls and other mongerers will not want to call you since it's expensive.
Put your phone on silent. When jamaican girls call you and you don't pick up then they will phone five times at least which is annoying even if your phone is only on vibrate.
Gentleman Travel
10-08-10, 15:24
Any experienced monger knows that a local cell phone is a must have accessory on a mongering trip longer than a few days, and particularly so in Jamaica since there is no day time scene and it is hard to meet hot girls on week day evenings sometimes as well too.
A cell phone is also a must have accessory if you want to try to get with a non-pro girl, or two non-pro girls...
There are two options to acquiring a local cell phone, bring an unlocked phone from home and buy a chip for 500 jamaican, or buy the cheapest local phone available which will cost you about 2,000 jamaican.
Are there any pan-Caribbean cell phone deals?
Like do I need to get a SIM card for Jamaica and a different one for Haiti in order to get decent local rates?
Actually, now that I think of it, the old spare cell phone I would use for this is a 5 year-old Samsung CDMA phone. Maybe it doesn't even use a SIM card? Is that possible? If not, how do I get it connected to a new service in Jamaica or elsewhere?
Fun And Sun
10-09-10, 22:55
Are there any pan-Caribbean cell phone deals?
Like do I need to get a SIM card for Jamaica and a different one for Haiti in order to get decent local rates?
Actually, now that I think of it, the old spare cell phone I would use for this is a 5 year-old Samsung CDMA phone. Maybe it doesn't even use a SIM card? Is that possible? If not, how do I get it connected to a new service in Jamaica or elsewhere?
I saw some signs for cell phone deals covering multiple islands, but didn't look into it that much to be honest.
If you are taking an old phone, you need to get it unlocked or other sim cards will not work, and that is actually pretty expensive, like USD 40 or so. I think all phones use sim cards nowadays. Take the old phone with you, and if you can't get it to work then the cheapest phone in the store is something like 1,960 jamaican, i.e. USD 25.
Fun And Sun
10-10-10, 23:30
There is still a streetwalker scene along the Hip Strip, but there are fewer girls than there used to be a few years back. Most of the girls will be hanging around close to Margaritaville, but if you walk along the Hip Strip late at night then there are a few standing around all along the street. There are also a few around Burger King, and lots of them when you get up towards Moods. Be careful with them since many of them are skilled pickpockets.
I have used Streetwalkers on a few occasions for a quick blowjob in the bushes to start out the evening, and have paid jamaican 1,000 each time for a BBBJ but not with CIM. If you do this try to have your own spot in mind rather than going to the spot she suggests, and don't leave your wallet in your pants when you drop them...
The streetwalkers range from fat and ugly drug addicts to some girls that are actually quite young and cute with most falling in between. The younger and cuter ones will be up by Margaritaville and Moods, and the uglier ones standing further down the street. Some girls that are "on the street" you will find at Pier 1 on Fridays. I think that Margaritaville and Coral Cliff are a lot more strict about letting girls prowl for customers inside than they used to be, which has pushed some of the girls to hang out around Moods and the street party scene in front of there and Margaritaville.
Don't bring a girl you meet on the street to your hotel room is my advice, since while some of them are nice other ones are thiefs. If you do take her to your hotel, don't have her sleep over.
Fun And Sun
10-14-10, 00:02
This is information that really should be in the guide books, but it's not and being transported around Mo'Bay if you don't know this will eat into your mongering budget quickly or you will be doing a lot of walking, so am going to post this even though it has very little to do with mongering except for saving you money.
There is not really a public transport system in Jamaica with buses (and there are no trains on the island), instead there is a system of route taxis. These are cars, most of them are white, older model Toyotas and Hondas and they have maroon license plates (or maybe brownish red is a better way to describe the colour). However, some of them are now newer cars, so if in doubt then ask the driver that he is a route taxi before you get in since some licensed private charter cars also have the maroon plates, this is differentiated by the code on the license plates, but I have not paid much attention to it. (If there are a couple of jamaicans in the car, then it is definitely a route taxi.)
These route taxis drive standard routes at standard prices, and you can flag them down and get in anywhere along the route and get of anywhere you want to along the route. The main route that goes through Mo'Bay starts at taxi central in downtown Mo'Bay, and finishes up by the airport after having gone along the length of the Hip Strip. The price of going this route is 80 jamaican (some drivers will charge 85 jamaican). The price is the same no matter where you get on or get of, so if you get on at for example Margaritaville, and get of at Dr. Cave Beach, it is still 80-85 jamaican. Drivers carry change, but don't expect them to be able to brake a 1,000 or 500 note. Ideally carry coins, or 50 or 100 jamaican notes.
Other people will be in the taxi, and the taxi will stop to pick people up and drop people of along the way.
There are also unlicensed route taxis, these are called "robots" and they charge the same prices as the route taxis. Don't use these until you are pretty experienced. If one stops when you are waiting for your taxi then just wave him on. Once you are more experienced then you can use the robots as well (in the day).
If your destination is a few houndred meters away from the "route" then you can ask the driver to still drive you all the way. This should cost you an additional 20 jamaican. Don't try to negotiate this until you know how the route taxis work by having done it a couple of times, since if the driver sees that you are new to Jamaica then he will try to squeeze more money out of you.
If you want to have the taxi to yourself and go to a specific destination, then this is called a "charter taxi" but it is the same cars. You agree the price with the driver, if you want to go from, for example, Dr. Cave Beach to a specific location downtown then the price will be around 300 jamaican. The driver will try for 5 USD (400 jamaican) but stick to your guns at 300. Also, negotiate through the window before entering the taxi, and don't wait until you reach your destination to agree the fare since then the driver might ask for a ridiculous price and you will face a protracted argument.
Now, if you are not Jamaican, then the driver will try to charge you like you have chartered the taxi and not the regular price. Therefore, when you enter a route taxi, do the following: Flag the taxi down, get in, say nothing. The driver will start driving again along his route once you are seated. If he asks you where you are going, then say either: "this is a route taxi, right" or "this is a regular taxi, right?" Once he confirms that this is the case, then say where you want him to drop you of along the route. If he says no then point out that he has route taxi license plates and he will relent. They will try especially to get you to charter the taxi if no one else is in it, but they will also try this when there are others in the taxi.
When you want the taxi to stop, then you say (loudly) "driver, stop here". If you say "excuse me sir, please stop here" or something like that you will show that you are a green horn. Jamaicans address the taxi driver as "driver", the same way that the person making jerk chicken is "jerk man" or "bone man", the person selling smokes is "ganja man" etc.
Watch who is in the route taxi before getting in, especially at night. If it is a mix of ages and genders, no problem (mon... :), if it is five twenty year old males that look like they are up to no good, then don't get in.
When you are waiting for your taxi then you might be approached by drivers standing nearby offering you a ride, cars might stop and suggest that they give you a ride (even for free, but trust me, it won't be free since you will be expected to give them money for a beer or similar) so just politely decline and say that today you are taking a route taxi. (Remember, Jamaicans will take it as a grave insult if you ignore them or "play deaf", so when I write "ignore" in other parts of this guide that I am putting together it means declining politely but firmly, but also being a bit cold and not engaging in conversation about what/why you aren't doing/buying what they suggest.)
You can take route taxis all around the island once you are very experienced, and this is a very cheap way of being transported around, but by very experienced I mean not only knowing what "bombo'clad" means but being able to act like you live in Jamaica.
If you want someone to drive you around all night, or take you to Negril, Nine Mile, etc then you should get your own driver and not a chartered route taxi driver.
Fun And Sun
10-15-10, 00:23
I know that typing in all capital letters means that you are shouting, and I am shouting this:
DO NOT BUY ANYTHING, EVER, FROM A HUSTLER! Also, do not buy anything from people that approach you on the street either.
The reason that it is so important not to get anything from a hustler is that he will go of bragging and tell everyone on the street what he sold you and how much he charged you for it. Therefore, this will multiply the amount of hassle you have to deal with from other hustlers since they know you are a good target over the rest of your trip. In addition, if a hustler "befriends" you, which they try to do, then they will stand around waiting for you outside your hotel, come into restaurants when you are eating, even call your hotel room and be a major pain.
Especially when you have just gotten of the plane, and are walking around town on your first day you will be approached by lots of people offering to hook you up with whatever you need: Ganja, other drugs, girls, driving you around, shopping at craft markets, and so on. They know who is new and who has been around for a while, try to build up some street credibility by dealing with them respectfully, but firmly being clear that you are not buying anything.
Basically, the people on the street that offer you things fall into two categories:
1. Opportunistic touts. Jamaicans that work in stores, drive taxis, etc and are trying to make an extra buck by helping you out. You can't blame them for that, but sadly they will overcharge you massively so don't use their services. Don't be too hard on them, just clarify that you got everything you need. This is the vast majority of the people that will approach you on the street.
2. Hustlers. These are Jamaicans that make a living by harassing tourists and trying to sell them things at massively inflated prices. You will recognize them by their approach being a lot smoother than the opportunistic touts. Steer clear of the hustlers. They are very very good at goading money out of you, they do this all day every day. Keep conversation with them to a minimum, then move on. The hustlers are a minority of the people on the street, and are kept largely in line these days by the security/police that patrol the Hip Strip.
Hustlers are, essentially, scum. They will never take no for an answer, even putting joints (in Jamaica they use the word splif) in your pocket and refusing to take them back and instead demanding money for it. Shaking them takes a while since they are persistent, but keep walking and eventually they drop away. The last thing they will ask you for before they give up, for that time, is money for a beer. Don't give it to them. It might seem a small price to pay to get rid of someone that is a pain, but don't, it will double the amount of hassle you have to deal with next time.
Also, keep in mind that by talking to you each time you pass by they try to develop a "friendship" with you, and after a few days they will try with some sob story that their car is broken, that their kids don't have anything to eat and they need money for that since it's the low season, or whatever story. Don't give them any money, and don't buy anything from them, no matter what. The answer to give is: "I don't have any money".
Also, and very importantly: In many other countries it is ok to ignore people that approach you on the street, or "pretend you are deaf". To a Jamaican being ignored like this is a grave insult, so when approached you need to respond. However, there is no need to stop, and there is no need to go out of your way to talk to someone that shouts "come here" from across the street. Just acknowledge them and keep moving.
Remember, when they ask if this is your first time in Jamaica then you answer: "no". They are not that easy to fool so will follow up and ask when you were last here. If it is your first time, then just reply: "not too long ago", then stop talking about it. Then close the conversation with "respect mon, but am in a rush".
Most Jamaicans are very nice and decent people, and it is a pity that the only interaction with Jamaicans most tourists will have is being bothered by hustlers and touts. If you are being followed by a hustler, some Jamaicans will whisper to you: "Stand up for yourself mon, no one can make you do something you don't want to do". That is a good philosophy for dealing with the hustlers, and generally pushy people all over the world. Believe me, after having dealt with hustlers in Jamaica you will think used car salesmen and estate agents are push overs.
After a few days you won't be bothered as much, assuming that you never buy anything from anyone, but it is generally easier to walk on the ocean side of the hip strip since most touts/hustlers are on the other side.
There are no hustlers in downtown Mo'Bay, because few tourists go there (since there really isn't anything there for the average tourist, for a mongerer it is a great place to find semi-pros, quarter-pros and non-pros).
Now, if you have gotten of the plane and you absolutely must have a spliff and a nice fuck (or two) and aren't too concerned about paying a bit too much this once. Then, still don't use the hustlers and touts, just ask the taxi driver that takes you to your hotel to help you out to find a girl to come to your hotel, and have him pick up some ganja for you too. Don't be embarrased to ask the taxi driver about finding a girl, he will be delighted at the chance to make a bit extra money and won't even flinch at the question. He will be happy to wait outside the hotel while you check in and put your bags in your room, then take you out on a mission to find a girl and ganja.
If the girl is coming for a few hours, then don't pay more than USD 70. This is too much, but the driver will hit the girl up for some of that money in addition to charging you for setting it up. For a nice sized bag of ganja, don't pay him more than USD 5 (this is 10 x the Jamaican price...). Make sure he gets the ganja away from the Hip Strip or the stuff you get will be garbage.
Fun And Sun
10-15-10, 00:47
Everything in Jamaica that is imported is freaking expensive, and everything in Jamaica is imported pretty much, so bring everything with you from home.
When I say expensive I mean expensive by non-Jamaican standards, not Jamaican standards. Think 8 USD for a pack of cigarettes, 10 USD for toothpaste, 9 USD for deodorant, and so on. Clothes are expensive too.
Viagra is also expensive, and you are supposed to have a prescription for it also, so bring this as well. (You can get it without a prescription if you walk around and try a few pharmacies downtown if you run out.)
Most other places you go to to monger it don't matter if you forget to pack something, and lots of things are actually cheaper to get when you are on the ground. Not so in Jamaica, make a packing list and double check that you have everything with you.
I recommend the Lonely Planet Guide for Jamaica also. Lonely Planet Guide is crap for quite a few destinations, but the one for Jamaica is actually pretty good for a lot of non-mongering stuff to make your trip better.
Fun And Sun
10-15-10, 01:20
Don't know if this is OK to post, but the growing "Mo'Bay Guide" wouldn't be complete without it and it is important information. I have tried to keep it pretty clean by just discussing facts and not encouraging anyone to use these things, or giving specific directions on how to obtain any of these things.
The Stuff Bob Marley Likes (TSBML)
TSBML is not legal in Jamaica, believe it or not. However, I would describe it as pseudo legal. It is not smoked openly on the streets, but you can smoke it on your hotel balcony, in a lot of go gos, on the pier at Pier 1, or if you walk away a bit from the street when outside, etc. Or naturally in your hotel room...
The TSBML that the hustlers and touts sell is crap. The stuff that jamaicans smoke is good.
The Jamaican price for TSBML is also very very cheap. A bag that would cost you USD 10 at home (and you would be very happy to get that much for USD 10) costs 50 Jamaican, which is about 60 cents. Now, in Jamaica there is such a thing as "Jamaican Price" and then there is "Tourist Price"... If on your first trip you can't get "Jamaican Price" then don't throw a fit over it, but try to get as close to it as possible. Best ways to get it is when your driver gets some for himself then ask him to get some for you too and hand him a 100 Jamaican note. Or ask a girl that you are taking back to your hotel to go get some for you before you go up to the room and hand her a 100 Jamaican note. This may or may not work, they will likely come back with "this buys nothing" and give you back the money. Say that you know how much it costs and give them the money again. If you end up paying USD 5 then it's not a big deal I think if it's your first trip. However, be persistent that you know how much it costs and they are overcharging you so you don't look like a push over.
Don't be stupid and bring any home with you on the plane. And also be careful, Jamaicans don't all know that TSBML can get you into a lot of trouble back home. On one trip the girl that had been staying with me for several days was very nice and packed my bags for me, folding my clothes nicely, and... neatly wrapping up the TSBML that was left and putting it in a side pocked of my bag. Pure luck that I looked for it and couldn't find it, and asked her where it was.
Also, remember that the police do arrest token tourists for smoking TSBML on the street, on the beach, or in the open. You will have to have an enormous spat of bad luck to be arrested for this, but it does happen so be a bit careful.
Blue Mountain coffee, some viagra, and a splif is a very nice way to get ready for some great sex. One gives you energy, one gets you rock hard, the third heightens the sensation. :)
The Stuff Tony Montana Likes (TSTML)
Now, you will be offered TSTML on the street with almost the same frequency that you will be offered ganja. Capital letters for emphasis here: THAT IT IS READILY AVAILABLE DOES NOT MEAN THAT TSTML IS PSEUDO LEGAL THE SAME WAY THAT TSBML IS. The police do take TSTML seriously. If you are caught doing TSTML in the bath room of a club, go-go, restaurant, etc it is not unlikely that the police will be called and that you will get arrested. The police are also likely to be called if it's found on you when you get padded down when you enter some clubs.
A stint in a Jamaican jail will ruin your vacation even more than if your mother in law is parked in your room, so steer clear of TSTML.
(If you don't know who Tony Montana is, then google it, and if you can't read between the lines still then you must be very very stupid... :)
Designer substances
These are available, but actually very very expensive compared to home. The police take a hard line on this as well, so steer clear.
One more important point: In Africa, and also in South America, scams are common where the police and sellers, girls, etc collude to entrap you with drugs and then arrest you to extract a bribe from you. I have never heard this happen in Jamaica.
Fun And Sun
10-15-10, 01:43
In the section on massage parlours I mention one nice Jamaican place to eat at and give directions to it. Jamaican 350 for a good sized meal.
Pork Pit is good. If you walk past Wexford Hotel and keep going for a while it is on your left. Jamaican 500-1,000 for a good size meal.
Marguerites has a very nice setting to eat a meal at if you take a non-pro out, but it's expensive. Think USD 100 for food and some nice wine. You don't need to take your non-pro girlfriend here to impress her, she will be happy if you take her to Pizza Hut (I am not joking) so if you go here do it for the nice setting next to the water.
Burger King (yes) is actually one of the cheaper options on the Hip Strip.
Loads of restaurants downtown where you can eat for Jamaican 300-400.
You can also get some really nice jerk chicken from the guys that stand around outside Margaritaville with grills on Saturday nights if you get hungry late night. Don't get it other nights since then they are not that busy and it is not that fresh.
Places with overpriced and crap food:
- Bobsleigh Cafe (but great for flirting with the waitresses, although they are not that hot, but just go for a few beers instead of eating there)
- Margaritaville
- The restaurant inside Coral Cliff Casino (but this place too is great for flirting with the waitresses, some are pretty decent looking)
- The Irish Pub (forget the name). (This place has some waitresses that are very hot.)
- The restaurant inside Dr Cave beach. (Although there are a few mongerers that go there with their pro girlfriends from time to time, so if it bothers you to be seen with a pro and you are with one and you are hungry, guess you can go there to blend in a bit.)
Note: Hotness status of waitresses acurate as at 2010...
Fun And Sun
10-15-10, 02:08
This would seem like something that should be pretty easy, but like many things in Jamaica it is yet another thing which is designed to take money away from the uninitiated...
I personally also dislike arriving at an airport for the first time in a third world country without knowing what to expect, since you are very vulnerable at this point since you have all your luggage, credit cards, passport, cash, cameras, etc on your person.
Once you are through customs, you will be approached by porters offering to take your luggage, and by ladies asking if you need a taxi. Porters will demand a ridiculous trip for hauling your luggage 80 yards to a taxi, have never tried the transport offered by the ladies but am sure it is expensive, so just keep walking.
There is a stand with a sign that says "official taxi". All these guys do is take you to the driver that gives them the best commission, and not necessarily with the cleanest car, so go past this too.
At this point you will be approached by the JUTA drivers. They have uniforms (reddish pants, white shirts) which they manage to look sloppy in. If it's your first trip, then you might want to consider going with them since they are the absolutely safest and easiest option. They will massively over charge you at USD 10 to USD 15 for the five minute drive to Mo'Bay. They collude not to offer lower prices.
If you walk past the JUTA drivers then you are outside the building but under the roof. Here you will be approached by unlicensed drivers. You can get them to take you into town for 300-400 (about USD 5) Jamaican if you stand around for a while, especially until the crowd of people that are coming of the plane you arrived with thins out. That isn't something you want to do on your first trip.
If it is day time then you can get a route taxi. Either you walk up to the street (it is past the Texaco) and flag one down. The driver will come out of the taxi and put your luggage in the trunk. There is no charge for having luggage in the trunk, but you can't keep it with you since there needs to be room for other passengers. You might want to think of chartering the taxi for 300 jamaican instead of taking it as a route taxi. If you take it as a route taxi then make sure to confirm with the driver that he is a route taxi.
Alternatively you go over to the taxi stop (go right towards the departures area). There is no sign for the taxi stop, but it is the line of white cars. Ask the driver where he is going. (He might not be going to Mo'Bay that's why! Some of the taxis will be going towards Rose Hall and further which is the opposite way!) Try to get into one that is almost full, since otherwise you will have to sit and wait until the taxi fills up since the driver won't leave until it is almost, or very nearly, full.
The cost of the route taxi is the usual Jamaican 80-85, and you naturally can't take a route taxi if your hotel is not on the Hip Strip. Tell the driver in advance where you want him to stop if you don't know where the hotel is, since otherwise you might end up standing at taxi central in down town Mo'Bay with all your luggage which would, well, really suck in the day time, and at night time would be outright dangerous.
The route taxi option is doable at night to, and you can do this without worry, but not for the first time visitor.
Gentleman Travel
10-15-10, 15:28
Thanks for all the detailed information.
When entering a new country it is always good to have a handle on the logistics and mongering terrain - gives you a level of confidence.
I hope to be back to MoBay again this December, but will be stuck at Rose Hall Resort, which is very difficult situation for mongering. May import a young lovely to join me for the week or if not will get the doorman to bring in some talent. Did not get downtown at all last time. Not much a sex paradise!
GT, what trouble did you have getting ladies into the New Rose Hall?
Thanks for all the detailed information.
When entering a new country it is always good to have a handle on the logistics and mongering terrain - gives you a level of confidence.
I hope to be back to MoBay again this December, but will be stuck at Rose Hall Resort, which is very difficult situation for mongering. May import a young lovely to join me for the week or if not will get the doorman to bring in some talent. Did not get downtown at all last time. Not much a sex paradise!
Gentleman Travel
10-15-10, 21:52
GT, what trouble did you have getting ladies into the New Rose Hall? It was more a lack of opportunity. No prospects on site. I was advised that female staff could get fired if they "fratenized" with guests, even if they could be enticed - which was by no means clear. The place is isolated and there is no where nearby to cruise. No lobby girls, or girls hanging out on the beach. I guess you could probably bring in a semi-respectable girl from outside, but I never did get downtown to go shopping, so I don't know for certain. One night I asked the doorman or conceirge about getting girls and he was a bit evasive, but conceded that it might be possible - but then I went out with a mixed group for dinner and could not follow up. So not a good base for any kind of mongering - I was only there because of a conference on-site and had little choice.
It was more a lack of opportunity. No prospects on site. I was advised that female staff could get fired if they "fratenized" with guests, even if they could be enticed - which was by no means clear. The place is isolated and there is no where nearby to cruise. No lobby girls, or girls hanging out on the beach. .
I usually stay at the Ritz or Half Moon. Have you stayed at either and if yes how does Rose Hall compare?
Re lobby girls, Jamaica is not the DR. Nope, not that easy but conversely, unlike the DR you come upon a troublesome female rather infrequently.
I don't know of any escort services in MoBay so from where you were/are staying, with limited knowledge and having to maintain some apparent respectability, it would have cost you a few hundred to bring back anything descent. Having more time and freedom to get downtown will bring the cost down dramatically.
Curiousjam
10-16-10, 22:14
I am a local here in Montego Bay and certainly a far cry from the average street walker. I am very independent, I am employed with a very good educational background. Long and short is I am very attractive both mentally and physically. I understand that you would offer some sort of compensation should we have a sexual encounter but that's not what I am here for, frankly I buy my own shit and need not depend on some foreigner for sex and a meal. I however have never been with a white man and would love to do so out of curiosity.
I'll be here when you get here in December, providing that I find you attractive ;)
Awating your reply.
Member #4379
10-17-10, 14:48
Hey Fun and Sun: Just want to say, excellent report. I've been to Jamaica nine times and travelled throughout the island and stay away from the tourist locations. You got it right my friend.
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