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BootyLover
05-20-02, 03:22
delmas & delmas 56 (front of sogebel) I had two of them at the same time 50 haitina dollrs each. good experience
How much is that in US Dollars?
BootyLover
05-27-02, 15:49
less than 10 USD
Originally posted by DESTROYER
How much is that in US Dollars?
BootyLover
05-27-02, 15:54
A good fuck is 10USD on the street, mediocre one/NEW COMERS/strollers are cheaper. I had a stroller for that price geek included. better ones in Harry's, Cheers more expensive too minimum 20USD.
BootyLover
06-18-02, 05:06
where is the action?
1- carrefour in the niteclubs, girls from this area ten d to be freakier and cheaper try M Vincent, aka Brisa del mar a blend of girls from DR and freelance locals. Can check as early as 7PM
2- Champs- mars, Rue capois area, the action start around 9 PM make sure to have a car
3- Grand rue from Rue St chareron to rue Paul six. very cheap and ugly
4- Delmas 41 around Teleco building so-so
5- Delmas 56 & route Delmas good bang for the buck
6- Petion ville, rue pan amaricaine and one parallel street on each side. for a better price hunt around 1 AM
7- petion ville check the lesbian shows running at Funhouse can get some regular there cause the DR girls performing are too expensive IMHO
8- for more freaky stuff, you need to reach the underground market. I still have my personal inventory
Member #4203
06-30-02, 12:54
I will fly to Port-Au- Prince the week of the 12th of JUly.
Where can i stay that is girl friendly?
Also, anyone have some refferals I can contact there to get started?
BootyLover
07-01-02, 01:10
I don't really know cause I use to live there. The best way to go is to rent an appartment/studio. Check kinam appts. While living in appartments you can do what ever you want. Kinam appts are in Petion-ville. Check them for price & stuff
Hi Bootlover --
Can you give a more detailed size up of the scene. I'm a seasoned world-wide punter, but the only third world coutnries I've punted in are Thailand (a stretch (really more "2nd world") and Uruguay).
Seems to me that Haiti is ultra-third-world. Sooooo, how do you handle security. Is it a real problem. I like clean street walkers as well as all the rest). Are all the girls here HIV+ -- or on there way there with a good dose of syphillis or hep B?
Do the girls give BBBJ, etc.? Is there a red light district? Any places to absolutely avoid? Hotels or banks wherein one may use their ATM? Stuff like that: the basics.
Thanks in advance,
JWadd (I plan to go there next summer)
BootyLover
07-02-02, 04:39
1- Security is not a concern as long as you stay in petion-ville. If you plan to go to other places make sure you have a car and you're set.
2- HIV+ concept is definitely well established in the minds since even educated people still believe in it. (USA FDA has stated how wrong they were, but the damage has already been done). I consider every girl I encountr everywhre on the planet as highly probable HIV carrier and act accordingly.
3-Petion-ville again for the clean SW. However, borthels in carrefour have clean ladies but they are inside (not SW)
4- I never had BBJ since I'm very cautious (I can count the ladies who did that to me-less than ten in my whole life). BBJ may be available, but the sex focus there is not on blowjob.
5- No ATM as far as I remember, no red light district. Place to avoid Cite soleil (anyhow no cab will drive you there even if you are paying high price)
6- for STD, I can tell you that I 've nailed some of them for close to ten years
Hey bootylover I agree haiti has a bad wrap , but one should always wear a condom anyway. I had a hot chica from haiti in boca chica DR and she me some best sex I ever had. Is there a hotel in port-au-Prince where you can just lay back and relax and bring the girls with no problem. The night club sence how easy is it to pick up girls. I would like to know the price of hotel and girls also where the lite tan girls hanging out at. Don't get me wrong I like the dark ones to just want a chioce of flavors. MOst of all will I be safe.
Member #4203
07-19-02, 08:24
Are you saying that these women won't give head?
BootyLover
09-21-02, 22:39
Hey guys! what's goin on in the streets & aside. I haven't gone chasing (against my will) for a long time. Post your experience here
BootyLover
01-08-03, 18:57
Hey you all. I'll keep you posted on the market soon
Member #4239
01-16-03, 10:22
hi bootylover:
a full update on this city would be appreciated if you get the chance. J.G.
BootyLover
01-26-03, 01:27
First update.-
1) conversion rate for US$ is 40 gourdes for 1 dollar.
2) SW ask for 250 gourdes a shot but a local will get them for 100
3) Theoretically, age restriction exist but not enforced (unless you exagerate)
4) the younger, the cheaper but make sure you have a car and visit Petion-ville (in the casino area) and Port-au-Prince (Champs de mars area). Lower he windows and don't go fast (you won't be bothered by police)
5) Expect to pay more since you are a foreigner
6) If you give a ride just ask: "m sou kon yen e ou men m?" (I'm in the mood of fucking, what about u?) neext you ask ;"combien?" (how much?)
Don't let the SW in the car before negotiation (unless you really want her) just ask "combien ou kon yen?
7) don't ever negociate in dollars u'll overpay and bring attention to you
8) there's no security issue
Member #4239
01-26-03, 08:09
YES!!
Finally an update on this city which I plan to visit later on this year. Thank you Bootylover. Are you in Haiti right now?
It is great that security is not an issue. How about the electricity? I heard that only 2% of people have electricity and that it goes out frequently.
What are the range of sexual services to be expected? oral? anal?
Thanks again for the update. J.G.
BootyLover
01-26-03, 21:42
Electricity is a rare and private resource these days. If you'll stay at a middle class private house u won't be severely affected cause they use a mix of generator, power inverter and solar panel when they they don't live in priority areas (24/7 electricity). If you'll be at the hotel don't bother cause every comercial place have electricity.
I had two in my car last nite, lesbian show finger in pussy and ass and nailed both of them for 300 gourdes (less than 10 US). They were young (compared to US standards) but ok for here. They were willing to do anal but in private (secretly from each other). Everything can be negociated, but always discuss with one at a time. If you you are looking for anal and she said no don't try in the same group cause even the anal providers will say they don't do it.
I'm there and having good time due to the fallingof the gourde
Member #4239
01-27-03, 04:50
Thanks Bootylover. So I understand that if I stay at a hotel, electricity won't be a problem.
I have a few more questions if you don't mind. In some of the travel books, hotel Olofsson(I don't know if I spelled it right) seems to be the only recommended hotel. I guess they charge about 60 dollars a night. Do you know if the hotel allows women/prostitutes to come in to the rooms?
I don't speak a word of French. Will I be able to find a single taxi driver who speaks some English? I assume some of the airport and hotel staff speak some English, right?
Unfortunately I dont' really have a good concept of what the women there look like. Are they all kind of thin or are there some with nice "booties" and big boobs?
I assume that it's probably pretty easy to have sex with the regular girls too, right? Of course it would help if I spoke the language!
10 dollars for two ladies? Can't beat the price, and I love black women. Gotta check out Haiti.
Thanks again for the info. J.G.
BootyLover
01-28-03, 15:25
1- If you stay at Olofson, you'll be part of their thursday nite gathering. The crowd,(as for the owners) is bi-sexual and you might be finding quality girls there, more expensive though (undercover SW)
2- U can have guest in almost every hotel (besides fine hotel such as El Rancho). But there's always a way to bring em in
3- If you move around in Petion-Ville where it's safer English won't be a barrier you won't be the first english speaking customer in a country where diferent languages are understood
4- Using taxi driver may induce a security risk since he will know that you have dollars, that you are alone here and you'llbe ripped off (high price for him and the girls)
5- Your best bet, rent a car, with a private plate, get a map and know how to shuttle between Delmas, Petion-Ville and Port-au-Prince. It's pretty easy and short.
6- To get leads, hire a prostitute (fuck her first then ask for lesbians shows (her + 2 friends) then you'll have 3 informers. Never wander where they live (poor neighborhoods). Just ask for body type and practices. It's never a good idea to sleep overnite with a prostitute(anywhere in the world)
7- As the country gets poorer, as regular girls are willing to engage in Sex in exchange of money, but not all of them be careful.
8- As a local, it's normal that i get the best bang for my buck, u'll hardly beat that
9- when u request anal just ask for "toubouda" pronounced "twobooda" meaning asshole
Originally posted by J.G.
Thanks Bootylover. So I understand that if I stay at a hotel, electricity won't be a problem.
I have a few more questions if you don't mind. In some of the travel books, hotel Olofsson(I don't know if I spelled it right) seems to be the only recommended hotel. I guess they charge about 60 dollars a night. Do you know if the hotel allows women/prostitutes to come in to the rooms?
I don't speak a word of French. Will I be able to find a single taxi driver who speaks some English? I assume some of the airport and hotel staff speak some English, right?
Unfortunately I dont' really have a good concept of what the women there look like. Are they all kind of thin or are there some with nice "booties" and big boobs?
I assume that it's probably pretty easy to have sex with the regular girls too, right? Of course it would help if I spoke the language!
10 dollars for two ladies? Can't beat the price, and I love black women. Gotta check out Haiti.
Thanks again for the info. J.G.
Member #4239
01-28-03, 15:42
Thanks a lot for the info Bootylover. I'll try to be there in the second week of Feb. Will post my experiences. J.G.
BootyLover
01-28-03, 15:48
make sure you drive delmas road at nite low speed great bargain
originally posted by j.g.
thanks a lot for the info bootylover. i'll try to be there in the second week of feb. will post my experiences. j.g.
BootyLover
02-03-03, 18:01
I went chasing on saturday nite and here is my report:
1- I nailed one of my regular SW and overpaid her (cause I can get it for free from time to time). Anal was included for 250 gourdes (no rush)
2- I nailed another favorite SW 30 min later and overpaid her (Anal was included for 250 gourdes (no rush). She offer whatever I want and make sure I'm satisfied.
3- They ask for 250 gourdes, but negociate at 100 gourdes & settle most likely at 150 gourdes. Then you bargain for extra. fuck the pussy and finished in the ass will cost around 250 gourdes way less than $10.
4- The emerging crowd of Delmas road seems to be under chase (too obvious, too much)
5- Best bet remains college girls where you offer a ride and if she don't offer flesh you mentioned how interedted you are. You'll get good quality that way and the sex is immediate. 3 segments are the best:
a) Delmas Petion-ville
b) Petion-ville bourdon
c) Petion-ville - Canape vert.
Try lunch time and have some pusy for a lunch
P.S If you want some expensive (by local standards) stuff , try Harry's in Petion-ville and Millenio (domiican girls). don't choose in a rush take your time they will come to you and pick some of them. Cheaper by the bunch. Stay safe
Has anyone heard of the Crystal Palace in Petionville? I was there in 1999 and it was a good nightclub for picking up girls. I got a girl from the Dominican Republic. Is it still open?
Member #4239
02-04-03, 06:43
Good stuff Bootylover. Keep those reports coming. J.G.
BootyLover
02-04-03, 16:54
Crystal Palace is basically dead now for same or higher quality go to Milenio (in Petion-ville). Interesting place also is the Fun house (Petion-Ville) wih nice girls (dominican) doing strip tease and soft core lesbian shows (sometimes hardcore). The secret in these place is to hunt for regular girls cause 95% of them are undercover prostitute (better quality and wider range of services, pricey by local standards but way cheaper than the girls performing)
BootyLover
02-11-03, 20:51
Now for every dollar you get 53 gourdes, that means more services at lower prices since even gourdes are scarce. For less than $5 I can get good anal. A real bargain
Thanks Bootylover for the security tips; all excellent. I posted some questions in the "other places" section for Haiti here at the Forum. Please take a look. Thanks in advance.
Good hunting on your trip JG. Give us a report when you get back, thanks.
-Mattster
Originally posted by Bootylover
1- If you stay at Olofson, you'll be part of their thursday nite gathering. The crowd,(as for the owners) is bi-sexual and you might be finding quality girls there, more expensive though (undercover SW)
2- U can have guest in almost every hotel (besides fine hotel such as El Rancho). But there's always a way to bring em in
3- If you move around in Petion-Ville where it's safer English won't be a barrier you won't be the first english speaking customer in a country where diferent languages are understood
4- Using taxi driver may induce a security risk since he will know that you have dollars, that you are alone here and you'llbe ripped off (high price for him and the girls)
5- Your best bet, rent a car, with a private plate, get a map and know how to shuttle between Delmas, Petion-Ville and Port-au-Prince. It's pretty easy and short.
6- To get leads, hire a prostitute (fuck her first then ask for lesbians shows (her + 2 friends) then you'll have 3 informers. Never wander where they live (poor neighborhoods). Just ask for body type and practices. It's never a good idea to sleep overnite with a prostitute(anywhere in the world)
7- As the country gets poorer, as regular girls are willing to engage in Sex in exchange of money, but not all of them be careful.
8- As a local, it's normal that i get the best bang for my buck, u'll hardly beat that
9- when u request anal just ask for "toubouda" pronounced "twobooda" meaning asshole
BootyLover
04-02-03, 17:52
Hey guys, I've came to realize that these days of tough economic situations more regular girls are willing to make money and less SW are available on weekdays. Of course it's the best time to bargain since there are less mongers competing for their service
BL.
What's your take on the Haitian countryside. A friend of mine who works with a Christian Charity just came back from a place in the country called Hinche. He said he got some lovely young women for U$1.00 included anal.
He says however, that their overall performance was weak...they basically laid there or sucked just for the hell of it--zero enthusiasm. He gave the impression that Haitian women are not very sexual, not very good at all. Just in it for the dollar.
Also pointed out, that due to the poverty level most folks are incredibly greedy to the point where safety could be a paramount issue.
Please give me your take.
Member #4239
04-04-03, 11:04
Booty lover
I was very close to buying a ticked to Port-au-Prince. I wasn't too worried about security or the language barrier, because I figured that with the old mighty dollar in hand, I could get some Haitain dude to translate for me and be my body guard. However, then I read that the Port-au-Prince traffic is horrible. I read that sometimes it takes two hours just to go 5 miles. That's the straw that broke the camel's back. I just didn't want to go pick up a girl, and then spend 2 hours in the traffic getting back to my hotel.
Meanwhile, like you said, that leaves more girls for you to enjoy. Happy hunting. J.G.
BootyLover
04-04-03, 22:14
The farther they are from big cities, the cheaper they are. On the flipside, the more distant they are to foreigners.
As a rule for mongering in the third world, establish some good human relations and then you can get good service. Neglecting this factor always give you weak service. In major cities you might be more lucky to find the ones who knows how to fake.
Safety might be in fact a concern as go lower on the poverty scale, just take that into account for your blow jobs fantasies.
Traffic is indeed crazy during commuting period almost everywhere & during daytime in downtown areas. However, no one try to get meat during these period why would you try to?
I'm glad that you stay away form the country, this will strengthen my bargaining power
Originally posted by Sinclair
BL.
What's your take on the Haitian countryside. A friend of mine who works with a Christian Charity just came back from a place in the country called Hinche. He said he got some lovely young women for U$1.00 included anal.
He says however, that their overall performance was weak...they basically laid there or sucked just for the hell of it--zero enthusiasm. He gave the impression that Haitian women are not very sexual, not very good at all. Just in it for the dollar.
Also pointed out, that due to the poverty level most folks are incredibly greedy to the point where safety could be a paramount issue.
Please give me your take.
Member #4239
04-05-03, 10:50
Bootyman:
Weren't you the one encouraging people to get some pussy during lunch time in a previous post? Now you ask why would anyone want to get pussy during daytime? When I am on my hard earned vacation, I go for pussy 24 hours a day. I have read a lot about Haiti and I have trouble believing that the Port-au-Prince traffic is your usual big city traffic.
At any case, you are the one who has been there not me, so I stand corrected. Thanks for your solid posts in the Haiti section. J.G.
A Toda Maquina
04-20-03, 08:43
Hey dudes I might have to go......./ is there a variety of chicas dark & light skinned mammas???/Can u get a hotel with A/C for 15.00 dlrs a night???
SmallWorld
05-13-03, 06:20
Is Haiti a good place for cheap variety? Are there places with lots of street girls to choose from? Will the girls do BBBJTCNQNS?
SMALLWORLD
SmallWorld
05-13-03, 06:22
Also, is it safe for an American white-guy to be street mongering? Can young maids be bribed? If so, for how much work involved?
SMALLWORLD
BootyLover
05-15-03, 18:24
I check the area tonite & will keep u posted
BootyLover
05-17-03, 16:17
I went chasing and realized there were less providers on the streets. I picked up a regular one and learned that a sick guy had been killing them. Fortunately, he is in jail now; but since the supply is lower prices will go up. I'll try semi-pro & will keep u posted.
Anyone can be street-mongering but you need a car for that. Any where young maid can be bribed, (it's a human thing) Just try your luck & keep us posted
There's a variety of style & shape, this country is very eclectic, but I doubt U'll find A/C equipped hotel for 15 bucks a day. Stay safe
Member #1553
06-15-03, 07:54
I have a few questions if someone would take the time to answer them. I all ready my next trip planned and have spent a little bit of time in the DR. I usually do my own mongering and getting semi/pros and chasing normal girls. From what I have read Haiti is so much cheaper than the DR. It has piqued my interest. I never drive in another country so I would have to look into that. I would like the name and contact info of a hotel that has a safe, modest, for less than 40US a night. I am on a tight budget and would mainly be getting street girls. This trip would be end of this year. Does anyone have a taxi driver they recommend? I am interested but I will never go to another country without some type of info. I hate to waste time learning the hard way, by mistakes, lol
wolverine7l
BootyLover
06-24-03, 22:58
I'm statewide currently, I'll update you very soon
BootyLover
07-06-03, 21:37
Last sunday I scored two of them i Petion-ville.
One at the corner of darguin and a street parallel to Lamarre. She was young, clean and would do many thing with some patience
One at the corner near Planetfood (goes by the name of Baby). Not good at all but was glad to take 250 gourdes (around 5 US$) for some cornholing session. At this price, I had to
Friday nite, score two (200 gourdes each)
One quite ugly, with astounding big perky butt and one of the fattest clit in the area. Too bad she didn't speak greek.
One extraordinarily well-shaped, on Delams road near Petion-ville. That was my second time with her. I have her contact and she seems to be willing to give more & more. I guess greek will be on the menu next time or so ( may be I'll be the first one on her dirt road)
Stay safe
BootyLover
07-14-03, 06:27
Ooops I did it again. Greek action on Delmas 33, drive and look around (around 8 PM) not all hitchhikers are for real. I got her (her first time) for 250 gdes. Great body.
Don't dare to go to Delmas 70 & delmas road they are no longer worth the stop
Booty Lover, You're my kinda guy. Greek in a French speaking country is more readily available than with the chicas across the border. Still never had some in Haiti. Any phone numbers to offer for a visit next month? Need some beautiful Haitian butt. Did you have to walk with your own lube? Or was she prepared?
Hello to all Port-au-Prince experts.
Please advise on feasibility of my project:
- going to port-au-prince around end of September
- stay about a week
- get a hotel in petionville in the US$ 50/day range, where i can bring girls back to my room
- not rent a car
- during the day, walk around petionville and meet (non pro) girls, possibly bringing them back to the hotel on the spot.
- go to fashionable discoteques or bars in Petionville, pick up non-pro girls (I usually have no problem doing that in DR, and I speak French, so I am driven to think that it will work in Haiti) and have a nice night at the hotel.
- worst case scenario, walk around in petionville after bar or discoteque, and pick up SWs in the street, expecting to pay US$5-10 a pop.
Any obvious faults, or mistakes, or things that any resident would never do? I am especially concerned about a decent hotel letting me bring back obvious *****s.
All I really need is a hotel room with a decent bathroom, air conditioning, no roaches, and a safe, and I presume that should set me back in the 50s range.
Thanks for any advice.
freedick
Oh, I forgot something...how is Greek considered between "regular" girls in Haiti? Just sex or something a "regular" girl should only do with boyfriend etc?
BootyLover
07-30-03, 06:42
Freedick, no car no choice of girls
U have to stay in Petion-Ville for nite life & u'll find girls at almost every club. Just ask for info. For one week, don't expect too much luck with regular.
never pay in US$, pay in gourdes for 500 gourdes u'll easily get anal (street).
Here's the way to go' for each girl u nail ask her to bring firends for lesbo game with semi pro that should cost 1000gdes a piece (US$20). make sure they visit u during the day so that u can be free for nite chase.
never go to the girls place, never. always keep your valuables locked.
I don't know for hotels since I never had to use them. drop them a call. The best ones might not be guess friendly and will always compel girls to negotiate higher prices. If you cn pay that hotel you can pay the pussy. If you rent a car no big one, a sedan is fine.
BootyLover
08-04-03, 04:16
let's face it. This country has a booty-centric culture which means that small or flat butt are very rare. It also means that every girl expect you to give her butt some attention. Therefore the path to her asspipe is closer than you might imagine. Just let her know how crazy you are about her butt and.......
Stay safe!
Otter Trax
08-04-03, 06:48
tang,
can you provide any other details about the scam girl?
now i built a phobia for blondes in their early twenties walking spenard. i think i saw one last night down by the barrett and puffin inn. she gave me the eye but that post was haunting me.
did she say she was going to call [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) on you or something?
you seem too experience to be involved in something so rookie.
was there someone backing her up? since she got away with it
once i m sure she's going to try it again. then maybe anchorage will have new missing person posters everywhere again.
pickings were slim and rep001tered this weekend. i wasnt able to
score. i saw young lovely native glennette getting lectured by anchorages finest saturday early pm. i think she took the message as she's not been seen since and she was tweaking real bad talking to herself and stuff.
otter
Bareback Bob
08-04-03, 15:33
Hey bootylover,
I think I'm going here instead of back to Jamaica, seems like there would be more monster bubblebutts here to taste and pound at a much cheaper price. Plus, crime stats and travel warnings about Haiti don't scare me - if you act and dress like a dorky rich tourist and wander into ghetto areas by accident, it's obvious what would happen to you in places like port au prince and kingston. Anyhow, I'll check out the SW and club scene in the cities of course, but Bootylover have you done any looking in the countryside? I would love nothing more than to worship some big chocolate booty out in the sugar cane fields and rolling hillsides. Also, is creole/french knowledge a must?, since many Haitians travel to and live in US cities like NY, NJ, Miami, etc. you'd think at least basic English language would be understood - not in the countryside though I'm sure. Well, Haiti seems like a mecca for big chocolate bunghole fans like myself. I'll keep my tube o' lube on my belt next to my canteen when I head off into the countryside. Will update you when I get back.
BootyLover
08-05-03, 23:17
In fact crime rate is pretty low, they are that unusual that when they happen they are overspoken (because it's still a small country). Big booty abund here (don't think they are bigger than in Jamaica, but they might be because girls strive to have a big one). The good news is that they may be way cheaper. I don't wander country side although girls would be cheaper there. For wider choice & less negociation, I stick to the capital. Cap-Haitian might be a good spot these girls tend to be darker & more lovely. try your luck (there's open seaport there & drug smugglers too bargaining may be hard).
If you don't have at least some french, make sure you have a guide if you are short on time. girls fro ghettos areas are cheap and do everything but don't go get them, just ask for them. never negociate in dollars 7 don't give large amount of cash. If you want to tip a girl, let's say 500gdes/usd10 give her 250 one day & 250 the other day. You are sure that you'll see her again with whomever you ask her for & you'll be safer from stealing attempt.
I have a semi-pro who would be more exepensive and a SW all big bootied. The SW hasn't done the bunghole stuff yet (i'm taking my time with her & assfinger her meanwhile). Stay covered & safe
Gentleman,
I hate to spoil your fun and I certainly don't want to be called a racist, but it should be noted the Haiti is the AIDS CAPITAL OF NORTH AMERICA! Not New York City, San Francisico, L.A. or even Wash. D.C. It is estimated that at least 4% of Haiti's population (perhaps as high as 10%)either have AIDs or are HIV+, the true figure for the high risk group, I.e., sex workers maybe closer to 10% - 25%. Just keep this in mind and buyer BEWARE!
BootyLover
08-07-03, 04:29
I appreciate your sound comment, mostly for those who want bareback sex. However, I'd like to have the reference for these figures along with a comparison for other destinations.
My rule every girl is sick (gf or wife- they may just bring it back home) I should be careful
BootyLover
08-14-03, 19:58
yesterday nite I went chasing in delmas area (delmas 41, close to the telecom office). I picked a young one firms tits taut & perky ass. She was willing to please but no greek or lesbians. We did the deed for the equivalent of US$4 (quite expensive but I was horny).
BootyLover
08-19-03, 19:32
OOps I did it again with Baby in Petion-ville. Asspipe reaming for 300 gourdes. She seems to specialize in greek. She stands around Contempo Dry Cleaning (forgot the street name)
BootyLover
08-21-03, 17:52
I went out yesterday nite but nailed nothing. I wanted anal from some big booty provider but they weren't there. I try this fresh one (one month mileage) that I could do in some other country for age of consent constraint, but I dropped her. I met two light skin asking for 500 gdes I passed. For that much I could easily get greek.
It's seems that there's some pressur on the SW, the police told them they are out too early (around 7:30PM)
Member #4239
08-23-03, 11:03
Dear Bootylover
I know why you didn't nail anything: all the girls are scared of you! As soon as they see you coming, they run and hide in a desperate effort to protect their anal sphincters!
But please don't let this one minor set back discourage you from continuing your important work. We are all counting on you. J.G.
Bootylover, I share your interest in Greek. Also like black girls. Do Haitian girls insist on condoms or is bareback anal ok? Sounds like Haiti is a premium anal destination - I've only mongered in Thailand, Cambodia, and Philippines, and only in the latter is anal at all redily available. (it doesn't help to be a bit oversized).
BootyLover
09-02-03, 15:13
SW focus on condom for penetration, which is good enough for me & I never tried to bargain for bareback (front or back). Asian girls tend to be relutant for anal, may be its because they have so tight orifices
Member #1553
09-15-03, 00:20
For Bootylover or to someone with info,
I have taken many trips to the DR and would like to give Haiti a chance because I like dark women. I really like the quotes for sex and I get the opinion it is about 5US for just short-time sex, and less than 15US for overnight, correct me if I am wrong.
I have been apprehensive in the past due to posts regarding safety in Haiti but I am adventurous and I would like to use two taxi drivers that I obtain numbers from to drive me around to find girls or bring girls to me to pick from. I just have a few questions, my trip will be in early/mid December and I can not find any contact info for hotels that are midpriced. In the DR I pay 30US for a hotel with safe, kitchenette, and security guard(Residence Los Pinos in Boca Chica). Are there any reasonably priced hotels that have a safe, don't need a/c: with some type of contact info? I would prefer one for less than 45US a night. What is the beach like in Port au Prince and are there many girls available to be picked up at the beach? I do not speak French but speak English and am halfway fluent in Spanish so I don't think that will be a problem. I thank anyone for any help they can give me. I would like to purchase a ticket soon but I need to know about some modest priced hotels that are gf with a safe/security box. Thanks for anyone who responds.
Best of luck, Wolverine.
My only trip to Haiti was in 1998 and I got on the next plane back to the US that I could find. The hotel, El Rancho in Petionville, charged me $180 a night. This was the only one recommended as being safe. There was a difficulty with communication, and I took 3 years of French in school. The streets are poverty with a capital P and looked like an A bomb had exploded. Beggers everywhere. Securtiy guards with shotguns everywhere. Cars left parked on the street at night were canibalized and stripped by the next morning. (Guys make sandals from the tires.) Traffic stopped for a funeral procession on foot, no hearse, of about 45 minutes. The only girls I found available were at the Crystal Palace and were from the Dom Rep and about $100. I must have been doing everything wrong. I was the only white guy I saw outside of the ones at the airport who were there on mission trips. I got the hell out of there on the next flight back to Miami the next day. Good luck!
BootyLover
09-15-03, 15:16
Npaul is right because he entered the country at a specific layer where what he saw is the standard display. Whenever you go to EL Rancho, Montana etc. you'll pay big bucks and will face beggers since you can afford these expensive places. This place has less war guns that the post 9/11 america, less violence than Jamaica, but some violence exist while foreigners are not targeted.
Wolverine, If you are paranoiac, you may consider staying in the mentioned hotels but otherwise try Hotel Oloffson for sure they can hook you with a network of semi-pros (everything available). I have never use hotel service there hence cannot give detail on what they offer.
From the girl side, there a more & more free-lance organized lesbian show business running there, that will be your best bet with the ever increasing cost of living. From Santo domingo, a $75 round trip bus can bring you in Port-au-prince (Terra Bus or Caribe). Upon arrival some safe taxi drivers should be there trying to get business, just ask them referral for girls they will be glad to drive you around at nite. Furthermore people from these comanies will give you guidance on which tax driver to use. But beware they will try to lead you to dominican pro working in the city (too expensive in my view).
Age of consent is very loosely enforced, so the younger the cheaper, but make sure she appear to be adult. (no child thing here or you may face population judgment & sentence)
Stay covered & keep us posted
Member #1553
09-16-03, 02:33
Thanks all for your candid responses. I have looked up Hotel Olafson(sp?) and it is too high priced. Oh well, I will go where hotels are cheaper, a little more safe and less blatant poverty though I am not easily intimidated, so the search continues for the next spot.
BootyLover
09-18-03, 15:43
Wolverine, you might want to try guesthouses instead of hotels, cheaper more relaxed with guest, or try to rent an apart for the week.
There's also a small place fighting to break-even, you might try to bargain with them: Le marcelin Inn. It's located not far from Olofson.
Try also park Hotel next door to Le plazza Hotel. Both arein a SW marketplace (don't know if they are guest friendly).
Don't stay at places lower than rue Capois (in comparison to Petion ville)
Bareback Bob
09-18-03, 19:01
Petionville Report:
Haiti is a black ghetto booty paradise for all you big ass lovers out there, myself included.
I stayed in the best hotel in Petionville (so as the locals say) - the Montana hotel in Petionville - $80 a night. The views off the balcony there oversee the entire Port-au-Prince area and the mountains in the background - very nice. I brought two girls back there - no problem bringing them in at all. Walked right past the front desk and security up the elevator to my room. Also, the local cabbie told me that you can bring girls back to the El Rancho hotel as well with no problem. El Rancho has a casino, while the Montana does not, but the Montana is less expensive but more upscale than El Rancho. Government officials, business people, and europeans stay at both places.
To get to the girls: the first one I brought back was from a club with all Dominican chicks that began with an M like Mirages or something similar located in Petionville. It's a pretty small place with the only clientele being a few foreign business people and some rich Haitians - no locals however. This is not a strip club, a stable of Dominican girls more or less and the girls dress like they would in any disco in the Domincan Republic. They have a couple of curtained rooms in the back for bj or similar action. All the girls are very,very young and looked no older than 18 but all were on a scale from 7-9. I chatted the one up with the biggest booty in the place at the time, we shared a few drinks, danced, and then bought her out of the place to bring back to the hotel. Buy out price is US$150 - sounds crazy I know - you could get five chicks or more for that price in the D. Republic and probably 10 street girls in Haiti. Anyway, this price was for the entire night and allows you as many times as you can get it up. Lots of french kissing and no rubbers for bj but rubbers for sex. She didn't want to try anal as she had the tiniest butthole but she had huge basketball sized cheeks. She was just too good. Left at 10:00 am. Great time but won't spend that kind of money again.
The other girl I had I found near El Rancho. She was an out of towner from Cap Hatien with an average booty, nothing special, however she had a big bush down below which I love. Brought her back and did a long single round in all different positions for 1,000 gourdes (about US$25), taxi included. Filled the rubber up with a big shot. Good experience and cheap.
My time was limited there but I did chat up 2 local chicks in the area when I took a walk from the hotel. Very willing to go with me back to the hotel, but I had to leave. Next time, which will be very soon, I'll hook up with the local girls. When time is a factor then I have to pay for it. People are very friendly, and language barrier not a problem at all - most know some basic english or spanish along with their creole french.
One major tip however: You Need To Rent A Vehicle! There are very few taxis and they're expensive. Driving isn't all that bad, although there's lots and lots of potholes and no street lights at night. If you have some balls when you drive in your home country and don't drive like a grandmother you will be fine. You can take a taxi from the airport to the hotel (US$20) and then order the rental car from the hotel which they will drop off for you. Simple and cheap. 4-wheel drive is best but not essential. This will allow you to drive and pickup girls in Petionville, Port au Prince, and the countryside whenever you want.
If you're breathing gets quicker when you see girls with big round black booty cheeks strolling around your hometown, then Haitian girls will cause you to have a coronary! Try some third world big booty for me.
BootyLover
09-22-03, 15:19
Nice report. The expensive club you are referring to is Millenio, way too expensive. The best way to lower these over inflated price: ask for price & say it's too expensive that you'll buy somewhere else. That will force the price down. basicly only drug smugglers pay these prices.
1000 gourdes was reasonable for a first-timer. Next time try to buy a package (2 for 1500 gourdes or less). The more you are getting the cheaper they are, cause they know you can easily pick someone else.
Stay covered
Bareback Bob
09-24-03, 19:26
Yes, Millenio, that's it. Strange people there, though I wouldn't say I felt out of place among them. These are cream of the crop dominican girls that are found here. Really young and none below a 7 I would say. Not fashion model types, but very young girl next door looks dressed mainly in tight jeans and clubbing outfits. It would be very easy to score there otherwise if you're young and handsome like myself, but the fact that the girls are property of the club and you have to buy them out of there makes it not worth it. However, if you had to live in Haiti, were too lazy to take a bus trip across the border, and needed a change from all the dark chocolate booty, this would be a solution, provided you bargained the price down quite a bit.
Hey bootylover: you stay in a private apartment, right. Would you have any recommendations on which apartments are best, as I'm going back soon and would like to do that. Petionville area would be best and when I was there I saw places that looked empty like no cars or whatever in the gated driveways that maybe people use only for vacation. Haiti isn't exactly all over the internet too, so it would be hard to find a place through the net. Didn't check the local papers while I was there, but that might be best. Also, does the apartment you stay in have reliable power as even the Montana had problems when I was there. I know at night most of Port au Prince, including Petionville has regular power outages, though the hours I spent at Millenio there were no problems.
Thanks. bob.
BootyLover
09-24-03, 23:35
If you are after dominican girls, you have cheaper options:
1- M. Vincent on the way to Carrefour (Go often in your car and have some drink with a male friend.) Go there early around 7 PM up to 9H30 or Sunday around 2 PM. Why? all the below average you see were there in their prime time, you can have some real virgin there it's always a bargain compared to Millenio. hang there often for a beer they'll be your friends and you'll have to choose among many. P.S. Carrefour (less safe than Petion-ville) is the area where girl ten to be freakier.
2- There used to be some freelancers on Delmas road & Delmas 67 new fresh, who knows you may be lucky sometimes.
If i were there I'd hand you over some of my semi-pros
BootyLover
09-27-03, 16:26
For those trying to find info, these might help:
http://hotelroomsplus.com/haiti/haiti.htm
http://www.myayiti.com/Hotels.htm
BootyLover
12-06-03, 00:01
I'm still out of there. What's new on the market?
Bareback Bob
12-11-03, 18:24
Will not get to go back until spring. I plan on exploring some of the north and the countryside this time around.
Bootylover, when is your next trip?
BootyLover
12-13-03, 01:56
I'll be in sometimes around february & I'll keep you posted the action. I f you go to cap-haitian, you might face pricey ones because they have been spoiled by drug smugglers. The best course of action would be to ignore the pretty ones and to nail lower quality. This strategy will ensure that they will remain on low cash for extended time and will most likely settle for deflated prices
Bareback Bob
12-15-03, 18:44
Yes, I agree. A big round perfect ass wins over a pretty face anytime for me. When I go back I'm going to visit Hinche, Jeremie, O-Cap, and Les Cayes. When I was in Petionville I bought a good creole-english phrasebook and road map that I'll practice with before I go back in the spring. Finding monster asses and anal in these towns will be easy and dirt cheap. I won't forget to pack my lube this time.
Bareback Bob
02-10-04, 18:24
Once again chaos is brewing in Haiti. Was planning to go back in the next month or so, but will have to wait and see. It's a shame really that one has to risk their life for those perfect big round black Haitian booties.
MondaysChilde
02-24-04, 00:14
You guys got to attach some pictures.
I usually go for the opposite (tight asian pink snapper) but your praise of the big butts got me thinkin'.
What's with the uprising going on down there Bootylover? I keep reading the news that the rebels have tooken over certain parts of Haiti.
When I caught light of this,I thought of Ya! you safe down there man?.More importantly,the women!
so_very_fly
02-27-04, 23:27
Here's another call for bootylover to post. Let's have some real frontline monger reporting.
BootyLover
02-28-04, 15:58
NO good news guys, I'm still trapped in monger hell (USA) and I can hardly go there there these days. I'm starving in Boston where I gave the idea of chasing- too much constraints
Haiti sounds good! After Brazil and Thailand I want to try DR. Is it possible to go from DR to Port-au-Prince via bus? I would like to do it backpacker style. Are there cheap guesthouses available? I have seen some pics from Haitian girls and was quite impressed. Most of them seem to be unshaven and natural (that is how I like it)? Furthermore the prices sound very good.
Kuranyi
BootyLover
04-20-04, 01:41
Roundrip bus fare should be around 75US$. Be careful these days
Its possible, but I hear the bus only runs once a day and takes a long time. Much faster to fly.
Dark Knight
04-25-04, 21:32
Guys,
For anyone who hasn't been to Haiti, it's very rugged. My recommendation is that you find a taxi driver who speaks a bit of english to take you around.
In any case, if you are so inclined, you can find the better talent in and around Petion-Ville. It's primarily street action, and you can also meet people at Harry's bar or Crystal. Both of these are clubs in the P-V area.
If you want to get away from the city, and visit a nice beach, my recommendation is to go to Wahoo Beach. The hotel is simple, but it's clean, and they serve very good food. It's roughly a 40 minute drive outside of PaP. A closer beach is Giloo, but it lacks the amenities of Wahoo.
Generally speaking, unless you are looking for a very 'raw' third-world experience, you can stay in DR and save your time/money. There are alot of Haitian girls around Santo Domingo.
PM for further inquiries.
Let’s set up a group for a trip to Haiti. We all have a common objective, and if we team up we are likely to succeed. We can look out for each other and share some of the costs. Maybe we can have Bareback Bob and BootyLover as our tour guides.
Haiti intrigues me, but it looks too challenging right now for a rookie going on his own.
I quit my plans to go to Haiti. Instead I went to DR and did some haitian girls there. My experiences were mixed. One thing is for sure: watch your belongings and I mean everything (one girl even stole my old glasses). The other thing was that most of them have a hairy pussy and many even hairy pits. One girl told me that they have to do this because if they shave, their mother could see that she works as a puta. Any infos about that?
BootyLover
07-01-04, 01:51
Lucky you Kuranyi! I've in town for a few hours but couldn't scored cause I was on a very busy schedule. I did see these wonderful butts on my way from/to the airport. hopefully, on my next stop there, it will be different.
We should understand that culture and economics influence many aspect of SW life. In the third wolrd, women tend to be hairy for many reasons. It add to their appeal to local men and it prevents shaving expenses. So expect different type depending on where you chase.
Booty lover,
It is just a difference to many countries in the world where most of the women shave. For me personally it was a turn on because I like the variety of women and to me that makes them look even more feminine and unique. The world would be boring if all the women were completely shaved.
Hi,
I really want to go to Haiti for fun. Any suggetions?
KW Kids
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Sexual Intell
07-06-04, 10:51
If I go to DR where is the best location to meet Haitian Women?
Sexual Intell,
Either Boca Chica or Sosua. There are many Haitians but most of them are hardcore pros and try to steal. There are some gems too.
BootyLover
07-30-04, 11:51
I'll be in town soon for at least five days. I'll keep you posted
Friends,
I am very glad to see this kind of interest in Haiti as a place for booty hunting.
My one visit there was a very fulfilling one five years ago.
Nothing like the bubble butt babes of Haiti. The action was cheap and there were few problems finding my favorite action.
For example, you can participate in some good butt-pumping for about $20. Though it is not as easy as it might appear, anal sex is available in a bigger way than it is in Republica Dominicana.
I don't know about the political problems these days, but ass hunting was pretty easy some years ago. Thick, ripe butts for the taking at pretty good prices. Just remember that you will have to take your own condoms and lubricant.
Alan
Haiti is one of the few places I havn't been yet. I'm planning a trip this fall. I have a few questions:
Are ATMs available?
Where are the nightclubs and Go Go's?
Can you bring women to your room?
Do you absolutely need to travel by cab?
What are the costs for women?
Are there many foreigners mongering and where?
PM me if possible.
I am realy interested in Haiti. I know that thee is a lot of problems with teh country but that makes it more attractive and appealing to the adventurous like me. I think that this will also affect the price and bring it down a lot. I have lived and worked in several third world countries (i.e. Nigeria etc) and I believe that I am street wise enough. I am black which should help me blend in but the only disadvantage is that I know very little french of creo. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
HotTraveler
12-19-04, 05:18
Hello,
I wish to explain my history:
A friend sent me a e-mail with the URL of a website where appear only amateurs black teenagers from Cuba,DR,Haiti.
I visited the site (www.ricosworld.com) and I liked very much,lots of
pictures of babes showing all.
I love black girls and I falled in love with those site.
The trouble is that now the web is closed.What a pity!!!
Now I don´t can to copy the photos in my hard disk.
Here I send 2 pics from the site.
Since then I´m interested to visit a country like Haiti where there are
black girls with slim,tight body.
Someone can to give me advices?.
There are nightclubs in Haiti?.
Are the street girls available?.
Is dangerous to go there?.
Thanks you.
BootyLover
12-20-04, 20:51
It's always dangerous to be in place where sex is sold period. when you are there:
- stop by Harry's to buy some foods and some semi pro pu$$y,
- Visit the nightclub across the dominican consualte in Petion ville
- Visit the skanky "Latin lovers" on delmas 47 for some lesbian show
- have a car for street action in petion ville the same hold true for lower price/standard in Delmas 45, 43, 41 and phone company office area
- stay in petion ville area and upper delmas, venture downtown only with aa good guide for cheaperoften better action
Hello,
I wish to explain my history:
A friend sent me a e-mail with the URL of a website where appear only amateurs black teenagers from Cuba,DR,Haiti.
I visited the site (www.ricosworld.com) and I liked very much,lots of
pictures of babes showing all.
I love black girls and I falled in love with those site.
The trouble is that now the web is closed.What a pity!!!
Now I don´t can to copy the photos in my hard disk.
Here I send 2 pics from the site.
Since then I´m interested to visit a country like Haiti where there are
black girls with slim,tight body.
Someone can to give me advices?.
There are nightclubs in Haiti?.
Are the street girls available?.
Is dangerous to go there?.
Thanks you.
the reason rico's world is closed is becuase he has ****d girls on the site. i advise you to please delete pics that you may have downloaded from the site as well as the link here
thanks
It is really a pity that ricosworld does not exist any more.The pics from the haitian girls there were great.They are mostly totally unshaven.A lot of black hair under the armpits and on the pussy.Just like the girls have been 100 years ago before the razor was invented and most of the girls on the world think it looks better to shave everything.
It is a special type of girls there and not anybody likes it.I do.
I had the pleasure of some of these hairy babes in the DR. Any info where I can find a lot of them in the DR?The border towns maybe?
Kuranyi
It is really a pity that ricosworld does not exist any more.The pics from the haitian girls there were great.I'm not sre why you think it's no longer in existance:
http://www.ricosworld.com/
I am among the ones who don't care for this type, not because of the hair, but, most of these girls are skanky. Ricosphats is preferrable to me.
@HarryDHo
You are right it is working again but it was shut down for a while.The partner site rica18.com is shut down.I do not like the phat ones but to everyone his own taste.
BootyLover
02-21-05, 17:31
@ D Life
Please share your January 05 Experience with us. Did she introduce you to her friends?
Certainly Ricosworld is not a good representation of Haitian ladies. I met a couple very good looking ladies from Haiti when I was visiting Norfolk, VA. Someone tell me it ain't so.
Blue Metal
03-10-05, 05:42
Anyone know about safety issues these days in Northern Haiti. I'm planning a trip to the DR to Sosua in August. And I am thinking of crossing the border into Haiti.
I speak a little Spanish and French and I have been to Morocco twice(French speaking country).
Any survival tips out there?
Blue
Grand Pollo
03-11-05, 00:20
Anyone know about safety issues these days in Northern Haiti. I'm planning a trip to the DR to Sosua in August. And I am thinking of crossing the border into Haiti.
I speak a little Spanish and French and I have been to Morocco twice(French speaking country).
Any survival tips out there?
Blue
Stay in the DR. It is not easy to cross to Haiti and it is lawless especially in PAP, and the road between the border with the DR and PAP is unsafe. French helps but they speak Creole which ain't the same.
Blue Metal
03-18-05, 04:07
Dear Grand Pollo,
Your point is well taken. I'm not suicidal. I’ll look into air travel. But I’m so curious. I’m very, very curious! :)
Yet and still despite the risk, I really want to see this country of Haiti. Not just to find girls, but really see the life of these people. Don't you think it would be fun? :) Fascinating? :) What’s happening in Haiti is soon to be historical!!!
It's still the Caribbean. The place is surrounded by blue water. Cruise ships still visit the North coast, do they not? Hundreds of young girls for cheap as well as most other commodities, on a sunny island, Exotic food and music and very few tourists to spoil the opportunities? Yes, I think I want to try that. :)
I want to find a place very cheap with a lot of action that I can return to many times. From what I’ve read in Haiti you can get laid faster than eggs in a poultry farm. It seems like Haiti is the place. Other places have been great for me but Africa and Eastern Europe I’ve decided is just too fucking long of a trip. And especially Morocco where is not necessarily safe either. I never identified myself as an American there. And I had a run in with Russian Skin-heads, and the Russian Mafia. So, risk wise, what’s the difference.
From what I read, foreigners are not being specifically targeted. I think these people understand that tourism is the only way to bring business back to their humble island. And there are still a lot of Americans who are still there.
Also I’m going to order the Pimsleur Creole course. Thanks for that advice as well!
What I would ask you if you know, what’s the North Coast like?
Your thoughts, anyone? :)
Blue Metal.
BootyLover
04-05-05, 13:20
Will be there soon. I received emails that greek is more available, so i'm shopping for lube first. I'll keep you posted
Dark Knight
04-06-05, 01:46
Just got back from Haiti a few days ago.
At night in Port-au-Prince, you can hear gunfire (and automatic weapons) sporadically all night. Some areas are worse than others, with Petion Ville being (relatively) safe. It is NOT safe to take a taxi unless you speak the language like a native. Kidnappings are a viable source of income, and nobody should be getting into a car with someone who you don't know, or hasn't come highly recommended from a trusted source.
The power/electrical shortages continue, and the streets are VERY dark.
If you have a taste for Haitian women, you will find plenty in the DR. The current environment in Haiti is not conducive to skirt-chasing. Even the Brasilian-led UN peacekeeping force isn't inclined to wander into the various urban skirmishes.
That being said, there are still some of you who will want to go (probably be more motivated by the lure of danger). If you DO go, stay at a PV hotel and stick to the usual spots (Harry's, Krystal, etc). Leave the Oyster Perpetual at home, and head out to Wahoo or Kaliko Beach. Ensure that the hotel calls for a taxi for you, and that they make note of who your driver is....and DO NOT OVERPAY. Average Haitian earns $100 to $150 US$ per month. Keep that in mind.
paganslave
05-28-05, 01:58
Was in Port au Prince this week. Almost caught in a gun battle over an attempted carjacking. Met two friend that had close friends kidnaped over the weekend. The kidnapers were wanting $600,000US!! Who the hell has that type of money?
There was absolutely no mongering to be had. Haiti is NOT happen'in fellas. The D.R is right next door and a much better party atmosphere.
nice lovely pics in the pic section qnd I was going to ask about stability but I think you answered it nicely and especially now I would imagine new elections and all.
Member #4351
02-09-06, 01:13
Haiti was a monger´s paradise before the U.S. stepped in and introduced "democracy". When Baby Doc was still in power there was tons of SW action, and a bunch of casas with chiquitas from the D.R. Cheap pussy all over the place, and you could walk anywhere and no one would touch you. No crime, no kidnappings. Why? One time I saw some guy who obviously didn´t know what his fate would be, try to grab a camera from a tourist. A ton of cops starting whacking the guy with sticks and guns. The police either practically killed him, or actually killed him because he wasn´t moving at the end. Instant justice in the streets. No democracy, but plenty of zoom zoom (as they say in Haiti).
I am curious...what would be the best areas to find Haitians in the DR?
Grand Pollo
02-14-06, 02:46
I am curious...what would be the best areas to find Haitians in the DR?
You cannot, not find Haitian girls in the DR. Lots in Boca Chica.
If you want to find Haitians, the best place is along the Florida turnpike coming north from Miami. They work in all the rest stops and all have fat asses.
Marc Anthony
02-28-06, 04:08
You cannot, not find Haitian girls in the DR. Lots in Boca Chica.Very true. They are plentiful in North Coast mongering destinations as well- Puerto Plata and Sosua. If you are looking for campo haitianas check out the bateyes - haitian pueblos in the DR mostly originally created for cane cutting laborers. They exist in all the cane growing areas. Near PP Montellano has them. There is a bateye about 2km down the dirt road heading south right near Field of Dreams hotel across the road from Playa Dorada.
Bateye haitians are frequently undocumented - and are justifiably fearful of being arbitrarily grabbed by the police or military and dumped back over the border into haiti. Even people born in the bateyes who have lived their entire lives in the DR are not legally DR citizens. The chicas in the tourist areas have learned to cope with this but lots of haitianas back in the bateyes are shy of being out in regular dominican society.
BadBear2000
04-05-06, 06:43
the best way to get nooky in haiti is not from the *****s. If you are driving down the street and see something good you stop and ask her if she wants a ride. If so see if she wants to go with you to your room. If not get a phone number or give her your cell number. They love sex and believe me you will have the best time because they get into it. I have three regulars and they all three look great and have no problem swallowing. They think that is there duty. Stay in Petionville or up and down Delmars.
How do you fly from Miami? Is PAP safe these days?
Piledriver
08-02-06, 02:15
Well,
Having arrived several weeks ago, I must say that the postings on this page are wholely misleading. PAP is a mongers paradise, and the women of Haiti are extremely well endowed, well versed, and of a very pleasant disposition.
I once heard it said that in poor countries, a man's personality is kept in his back pocket. This is true in PAP for sure. Clubs abound, Club-D, Esquina Latina, Extreme, Flamingo, Soft Lady, Off Limits, Jet Set, and many others.
Cost, try about G1,500/all night. Thats about 40G/$, so about $30.00. Try that in most places in the Western Hemisphere!
If you are traveling throught the streets of Peitionville, and get a smile, stop and say hi! Chances are that you will have a confidant for the evening, and beyond if you wish.
Is it safe in PAP, hell no! Is it safe if you know a friend who can get you your PAP (Sea) legs, hell yes!
If you can get here, come on down. It ain't no Santo Domingo, but it has a certain charm all it's own!
PD
Huitzilopoch
08-02-06, 06:31
Does anyone have a secure contact like a cabby or hotel manager's # for tours and what not in haiti? Any area, pap perferred.
Piledriver
08-05-06, 15:05
Does anyone have a secure contact like a cabby or hotel manager's # for tours and what not in haiti? Any area, pap perferred.PM me and I can hook you up with a dude who can rock your world.
BootyLover
08-17-06, 03:37
PM me and I can hook you up with a dude who can rock your world.
Unable to PM you
What is the latest with regards to safety Haiti? I am getting mixed reviews. has anyone here ever used Caribe Tours to get from Santo Domingo to Haiti?
Marc Anthony
06-12-07, 21:32
I've never been there but I'm interested. The buses from SD to Petionville take 8 hours or so and cost something like $75 US. I think that may include some of the border fees but I'm not sure. Both sides charge in either direction.
The US State department has a travel advisory warning of the specific threat of kidnapping. This is kidnapping for ransom not especially political. The advisory says 60 Americans have been kidnapped and there have been deaths and injuries. Most of them have been in the Port-au-prince area (which certainly includes Petionville which is the major center for foreigners as well as domestic elites).
On balance I think the only reasonably safe way to travel to haiti is to be embedded with some NGO, Mission, or other entity that is locally connected and knows what's going on. That and staying out of the P-au-P area. Neither is well suited to most travelers on this board.
Well I've been trying to go to Haiti for a few years now. I've been all over the rest of the Caribbean and for some reason Haiti still draws me.
However each time I get ready to go - I read all the warnings and end up backing off.
However with the fares being so low again - I took the morning and really scoured the internet for latest info.
The state department (US) has released a statement that will really scare the shit out of you. However if you go to other travel sites - like lonelyplanet and read their posts you'll find that many (or at least more than a few) people are indeed going and having a great/good/horrible time. BUT at least the threads aren't full of relatives asking for information or death notices.
I for one - just want to go to the Hotel Montana for 5 nights, swim in the pool, find a driver I can trust to go out to some of the nightlife, and I wouldn't mind driving around during the day to take some photographs..
Anyone who can give me some feedback about what clubs are available - what nightlife - would be fantastic.
Thanks!
I have just spent two months working in PAP and and the clubs in Petionville are alive and rocking. I usually went to Extreme and Barak and both have lots of p4p available with no bar fine. I had an apartment and no shortage of girls. Prices range from USD 15 to 100 depending on what you want and what you negotiate. Lots of SW after about 9 pm in several locations in Petionville. Streets are relatively safe if you are not taking stupid chances. Best to rent a car and drive around as there are not many Taxis.
If you are looking for a hotel I would recommend El Rancho. It has a casino and is close to the street and club action and is girl friendly from what I saw. Montana is also good but a bit farther from the action. Villa Creole is next door to the El Rancho and also good.
There are lots of good restaurants, La Soufenance is excellent. Also Quartier Latin, Brasallie, Cafe Albert, Boucain Gregoire, La Plantation. If you are in Port au Prince on a Wednesday night, the Petionville club has a happy hour that attracts a lot of the expat community and quite a few working girls and entry is free for everyone. Beer is USD2 and there is music for dancing.
If you go, rent a car at the airport or arrange for your hotel to pick you up. Taxis are scarce.
Speaking some French or Creole helps. Girls often quote prices in Haitian dollars so check when dealing. A Haitian dollar is 5 gourde or about US$0. 15. One hundred Haitian dollars ("cien dollar") is 500 gourde or about USD15. The Haitian dollar doesn't exist as a currency note but is widely used in stores and restaurants. The government is trying to get all prices quoted in gourde but its a slow process. Check price tags on goods. If it has a "$" then its in Hatian dollars, if a "G" its in gourde.
Just wanted to let you know that Haiti is getting safer and the mongering scene is great.
Tom Gueguen
10-24-07, 02:08
I have just spent two months working in PAP and and the clubs in Petionville are alive and rocking. I usually went to Extreme and Barak and both have lots of p4p available with no bar fine. I had an apartment and no shortage of girls. Prices range from USD 15 to 100 depending on what you want and what you negotiate. Lots of SW after about 9 pm in several locations in Petionville. Streets are relatively safe if you are not taking stupid chances. Best to rent a car and drive around as there are not many Taxis.
If you are looking for a hotel I would recommend El Rancho. It has a casino and is close to the street and club action and is girl friendly from what I saw. Montana is also good but a bit farther from the action. Villa Creole is next door to the El Rancho and also good.
There are lots of good restaurants, La Soufenance is excellent. Also Quartier Latin, Brasallie, Cafe Albert, Boucain Gregoire, La Plantation. If you are in Port au Prince on a Wednesday night, the Petionville club has a happy hour that attracts a lot of the expat community and quite a few working girls and entry is free for everyone. Beer is USD2 and there is music for dancing.
If you go, rent a car at the airport or arrange for your hotel to pick you up. Taxis are scarce.
Speaking some French or Creole helps. Girls often quote prices in Haitian dollars so check when dealing. A Haitian dollar is 5 gourde or about US$0. 15. One hundred Haitian dollars ("cien dollar") is 500 gourde or about USD15. The Haitian dollar doesn't exist as a currency note but is widely used in stores and restaurants. The government is trying to get all prices quoted in gourde but its a slow process. Check price tags on goods. If it has a "$" then its in Hatian dollars, if a "G" its in gourde.
Just wanted to let you know that Haiti is getting safer and the mongering scene is great.
Thank you man, great report!
Hey Wine guy!
Thanks for the update on Haiti, I am considering going there soon.
Other than mongering: any good beaches to kick it near POP? Other cities that may be worth checking out?
Thanks!
Concarne
Member #4351
10-29-07, 00:05
No decent beaches close by. Jacmel has an OK beach but its a drive. Used to be a place called IBO beach, don´t know if it still exists nearer POP with bungalows and restaurant...swimming in mangrove colored water.
Guys,
What is the deal with money there? ATMs available or do I have to bring traveller's cheques or cold hard cash? What about credit card use in case of emergency?
TIA
hi fellas,
if anyone could contribute any answers to the below questions, i would greatly appreciate it. obviously, i'm considering haiti after reading this forum and doing some research.
1. i was wondering how far and how many minutes is petionville for port-au-prince?
2. how much would an middle to upper-class apartment / house cost for rent in both cities?
3. which city has the most action and is english / spanish-speaking friendly?
4. how much is basic car rental per day / month?
5. how is the electricity and high-speed internet service?
thanks alot.
I would love to hear the answers to Meatloafs request. I also would not mind knowing of other sources of info on mongering in Haiti...scant info in this place which I would have guess would be the one!
TIA
hi fellas,
if anyone could contribute any answers to the below questions, i would greatly appreciate it. obviously, i'm considering haiti after reading this forum and doing some research.
1. i was wondering how far and how many minutes is petionville for port-au-prince?
2. how much would an middle to upper-class apartment / house cost for rent in both cities?
3. which city has the most action and is english / spanish-speaking friendly?
4. how much is basic car rental per day / month?
5. how is the electricity and high-speed internet service?
thanks alot.petionville is maybe 20 minutes from port-au-prince. it's virtually a suburb.
you can get a decent apartment for a few hundred us per month.
petionville has lots of english and spanish speaking girls, including dominican girls.
car rental, looking at at least $100/day
electricity is poor. you'd have to have at least an inverter and preferably a generator, too, as the state-run electricity is on maybe 4 hours a day. high-speed internet would have to be satellite, which runs around $60us/month.
petionville is maybe 20 minutes from port-au-prince. it's virtually a suburb.
you can get a decent apartment for a few hundred us per month.
petionville has lots of english and spanish speaking girls, including dominican girls.
car rental, looking at at least $100/day
electricity is poor. you'd have to have at least an inverter and preferably a generator, too, as the state-run electricity is on maybe 4 hours a day. high-speed internet would have to be satellite, which runs around $60us/month.ok, thanks. everything sounds good. a few more questions: (1) a generator (3, 000) that runs on gasoline is usually $300. is it that much more expensive there? (2) 4 hours of electricity per day? everyone sits around in the dark? that sucks. i'm having the same experience in nicaragua. (3) satelilite high-speed internet? what's that? is it easy to get connected? how many days for the installation? what companies provide this service?
thank you very much lagocache.
ok, thanks. everything sounds good. a few more questions: (1) a generator (3, 000) that runs on gasoline is usually $300. is it that much more expensive there? (2) 4 hours of electricity per day? everyone sits around in the dark? that sucks. i'm having the same experience in nicaragua. (3) satelilite high-speed internet? what's that? is it easy to get connected? how many days for the installation? what companies provide this service?
thank you very much lagocache.1. i've honestly never bought a generator in haiti. most people i know buy them in the states and ship them over. but $300 sounds about right for a smaller generator.
2. everyone with the means has at least an inverter and if possible a generator. you'll never be fully in the dark in haiti.
3. satellite internet from hughes.net. here's a link for some basic info: http://haitisatellite.com/ourservices_internet.php
BadBear2000
03-15-08, 04:25
If you are going to carry a girl to the room, it is best at the El Rancho. The Villa Creole manager is an asshole. He and I almost got into a fight because I brought a girl to the room and refused to open the door to the security guy. The Montana is too far from Petionville and you have to negotiate a deal with one of the security guys which you don' want to do. The El Rancho can get a little tricky. You can always take the girl to the casino or restaurant and slip to the room. It just depends upon the security guy on duty. Day time is no problem. I have about 28 years experience in Haiti. I will be living there permanently after this May. The girls are great. If anyone is going this later this month, I will be going March 27th for 10 days. If you don't know Haiti maybe we can get together and I can show you the ropes.
BootyLover
03-15-08, 12:47
Badbear2000, you seem to be the man now. Pix are more than welcome
Global Nomadrr
03-21-08, 03:12
If you are going to carry a girl to the room, it is best at the El Rancho. The Villa Creole manager is an asshole. He and I almost got into a fight because I brought a girl to the room and refused to open the door to the security guy. The Montana is too far from Petionville and you have to negotiate a deal with one of the security guys which you don' want to do. The El Rancho can get a little tricky. You can always take the girl to the casino or restaurant and slip to the room. It just depends upon the security guy on duty. Day time is no problem. I have about 28 years experience in Haiti. I will be living there permanently after this May. The girls are great. If anyone is going this later this month, I will be going March 27th for 10 days. If you don't know Haiti maybe we can get together and I can show you the ropes.Badbear;
I'm also moving to Haiti/PaP end of April and interested in meeting/making all kinds of new friends, and learn the ropes. W/out becoming a paying member, Id sure like to meet you there: maybe seeking to meet atEl Rancho May 16, Friday PM or following weekend? Send back a smoke signal through this forum?
Safe travels then.
I want to go.
Show the ropes. I am in Los Angeles.
I am latino. Love love love... black women.
I met a white guy from Boston who is teaching in Haiti.
So he likes black pussy (cat) too.
So let me know more. You don't accept PMs?
I'm going for Memorial Day weekend, looking for a 'relaxing' weekend.
Global Nomadrr
04-06-08, 02:05
I'm going for Memorial Day weekend, looking for a 'relaxing' weekend.I don't get in to live there until early May, presuming it doesn't come undone from food riots and the like. May have missed Badbear's March visit--any reviews please?.-, but I could like to meet other mongers there, particularly those who might like/know how to show me around. I don't do PMs from an expiring membership but propose U propose a good venue/place and time to meet during the months ahead.
Global Nomadrr
05-15-08, 23:55
Badbear, where are you?
I moved to PPrince at two weeks ago and want to get out and about, as soon as I get my wheels in order and have confidence I can manage the street, scenes, and hazards well enough.
Can you call me at 3-816-6012?
I'd be appreciative to meet/make new friends here!
Hey Sak Pase
Was in PAP fes days last month
Stayed at the El Rancho, first night went for a beer/dinner at Harrys pub. Pick one that loocked nice, but so so performance, about 1500 HTG (300 HT$) for TLN second nigth picked one at the casino door, look soso, attitude and service a bit better, but nothing to write home about, damage 2000 HTG
Used to have better, GFEish in PAP, haitians really hot and sweet, quite different swing/tone from DR babes, but this trip was too short to choose.
Nap boule
Enjoy
Global Nomadrr
07-09-08, 00:25
Badbear...
I really appreciate your organizing to receive private messages, and hope this one gets through: Yes...i just gotta get a bit of an inside track on this nice, nice country, people and ladies in it...I'm 44, divorced by some years, work here for the USG, live alone in a nice flat near Pietville. You know, much of the USG community here is socially and culturally 'locked' down and I'm convinced few have any good Haitian friends at all....and I, i just have to get beyond that...
..and beyond indefinite, but dicey, mongering prospects...
Your longterm friend of 28 years sounds almost as wonderful, if differently, than the lovely mulatto lady you shared a picture of some months ago...I'd like to meet them both. My French is better than most Americans but i haven't gotten into Kreole yet....
I'd be very appreciative if you could correspond with me and see if you can try to make arrangements. See if you can find.. monsieurgarcon followed by the great 'chez' signs comes suivi par 'courrierchaud' with those final three letters and my phone number here is 3-816-6012.
If you don't mind I am noting your number for when I get a chance to hop to haiti--hopefully very soon.
Lucky man you are. Lucky lucky.
USG is united stated government? Excuse the question.
It is sad if the others are very insulated.
I don't speak french though.
BadBear2000
07-09-08, 05:12
He speaks French so you will have no problem. I will get in contact with him and tell him to call you. His name is Sergo
Badbear.
I really appreciate your organizing to receive private messages, and hope this one gets through: Yes...i just gotta get a bit of an inside track on this nice, nice country, people and ladies in it...I'm 44, divorced by some years, work here for the USG, live alone in a nice flat near Pietville. You know, much of the USG community here is socially and culturally 'locked' down and I'm convinced few have any good Haitian friends at all....and I, i just have to get beyond that...
..and beyond indefinite, but dicey, mongering prospects...
Your longterm friend of 28 years sounds almost as wonderful, if differently, than the lovely mulatto lady you shared a picture of some months ago...I'd like to meet them both. My French is better than most Americans but i haven't gotten into Kreole yet....
I'd be very appreciative if you could correspond with me and see if you can try to make arrangements. See if you can find.. monsieurgarcon followed by the great 'chez' signs comes suivi par 'courrierchaud' with those final three letters and my phone number here is 3-816-6012.
I love you. I mean it in the most masculine way possible.
What beauties. And just like that, passing on the street.
Can I move in with you?
I hate my job. I hate my life.
Seeing your pictures makes me want to go there.
I wish I could find a way, a job down there.
Just enough to live, not make a fortune of course.
Can you help a guy out?
Thanks
Driedup -- in every sense of the word.
Global Nomadrr
07-11-08, 00:47
I love you. I mean it in the most masculine way possible.
What beauties. And just like that, passing on the street.
Can I move in with you?
I hate my job. I hate my life.
Seeing your pictures makes me want to go there.
I wish I could find a way, a job down there.
Just enough to live, not make a fortune of course.
Can you help a guy out?
Thanks
Driedup -- in every sense of the word.
Driedup-You really need french or kreole to find fair work here, if not a PhD. If you have a development/ngo background, it'd help. Many capable haitians looking for work can't find it. It's rather desperately expensive, unfortunately, to live here comfortably--just to tell you.
Badbear--Really appreciate your having Serge call me; tell me, too, what i might do for him, thanks!
BadBear2000
07-11-08, 01:50
I have had a business over the last 27 years back and forth in Haiti. I fhave been given the opportunity to manage a very large plantation which is about 100 miles from PAP. It takes about 15 minutes by plane or 5 hours by auto. I am working on a company to make regular flights to the plantation which is near a small city because the only way now is by charter which gets expensive. We have our own landing strip. The place needs lots of work and I am trying to get financing to run the plantation in a manner that will give lots of jobs to the Haitian people. I not only love the Haitian Girls but I love the Haitian people. I am living a miracle because of a Haitian Doctor that has been my friend for many years. I have a business involving the following Satelite TV, Satelite Internet, Electronic Scales from gram scales to truck scales, Security Cameras and now am looking at mfg Solar panels for Haiti and the DR. If you have a particular skill I'm me and lets talk. I will be retiring next May and will be there full time unless something breaks lose and I can get there sooner. The plantation will have facilities for all of us to live rent free and we will be growing our own food. I am looking at power for the place even though we have a 27 kwt generator with the cost of fuel it is too expensive but there is a plant that grows wild in Haiti called the Jatropha Curcas which bares a fruit that yields bio-diesel without any adjustments if it is used there where it is a hot environment. If we work together, we can all enjoy life and help other people in dire need.
I love you. I mean it in the most masculine way possible.
What beauties. And just like that, passing on the street.
Can I move in with you? I hate my job. I hate my life. Seeing your pictures makes me want to go there. I wish I could find a way, a job down there. Just enough to live, not make a fortune of course.
Can you help a guy out?
Thanks
Driedup.- in every sense of the word.
bb
I read your post. So here is a little about me.
I am hispanic, single, not averse to working with my hands.
37 years old.
B.A. in English from Columbia Univ. in NYC.
Currently living in southern california.
I have no children, no criminal record and no bills.
No cell, no car. Only debt I have to pay is to my dear mom
and the Lord.
Skills? I have been an editor, writer, office assistant.
Worked outdoors, following instruction.
Traveled to Ecuador, Central America, Cuba.
If you don't mind I would like to pay you a visit sometime.
I do not have a subscription here. It expired. Or else I would PM you.
Ol Grandad
07-11-08, 08:44
Hello everyone.
I may be in Haiti during the next month or so and heard that Magdoos in Petionville was a hotspot. Is this true? If so, where is it exactly?
BadBear2000
07-12-08, 02:46
I never heard of it but believe me everywhere in Petionville can be a hotspot. I am going down the last of the month. Planning to leave on the 31rst of July and will be there until the 12th of August. Anyone interested give me a call in haiti at 3761-1111. Just to let everyone know the pics of Nancy were taken about 2 years ago.
Hello everyone.
I may be in Haiti during the next month or so and heard that Magdoos in Petionville was a hotspot. Is this true? If so, where is it exactly?
I never heard of it but believe me everywhere in Petionville can be a hotspot. I am going down the last of the month. Planning to leave on the 31rst of July and will be there until the 12th of August. Anyone interested give me a call in haiti at 3761-1111. Just to let everyone know the pics of Nancy were taken about 2 years ago.
It's all good BB2000!
If you have some dated 20 years ago you can post them. I can assure you I will enjoy them to the fullest!
Thanks again!
BadBear2000
07-13-08, 06:25
I explained how I met her in the Photo section. And as Paul Harvey would say and now the rest of the story.
That first night was probably the best night I ever had. She was into what she was doing and loving it. When I started to suck her breast of was surprised with a mouth full of milk. I don't like breast milk but not to upset her, I swallowed. She laughed and said she had a baby that was only about 10 months old and she was still breast feeding. I asked her where the baby's daddy was and she said he was dead. Now alot of Haitian girls will tell you this because they do not want you to know they got pregnant out of wedlock. She would later explain the whole story and to my surprise which did not matter at the time was true.
After the first night from time to time after she got her baby to sleep so her younger sister could take care of him she would come down below my balcony and say my name very low so nobody in the area could hear her. Sometimes, I would be entertaining another and would reluctantly send her away. Sometimes I would send the one there away because like I said it was hard to beat Biggen. Because of the business I had, I needed electricity and the house even though it had an invertor would not hold up to days of no electrical power. I decided to move down near Aristide's area at the airport. At the same time I got her a job down on Route Nationale 1 which was not too far from my new house. After work she would come to my house and clean it because she did not want me to hire another maid (Nancy). Once a week she would wash my clothes. Sometimes I would give her my credit card and she would go to Delmars to buy various things for me. That was how much I trusted her.
After I left, the place she was working closed down but because of her experience there, she got a job with the U.N. She just got a promotion a couple of months ago. She needed to get her drivers license but need the $$ so she visited me at the hotel because I told her I would give it to her. She came and let me know that she was a Christian now and would only have sex with her future husband. After laying there with her head on my stomach I guess the temptation was just too strong as she slipped Mr Happy out of his shorts and started sucking on him. But I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN.
To give you an idea of how naive these girls are, Biggen once asked me if she could get pregnant from swallowing my cum. All I could do was laugh. By the way, very few Haitian Girls will spit except for the professionals.
BadBear2000
07-13-08, 06:43
My son who was 13 at the time was visiting me in Haiti. We were going down town and saw this beautiful little sweetie walking and looking back in hopes of a ride. We gave her a ride down town as she was registering for some classes. She was beautiful. I gave her my telephone number and she gave me hers. After we let her out my son says, "Dad I would give her a call if I was you." My son is a very smart kid even at 19.
After my son went back to the states for school, I decided to give her a call and found out that she only lived a block from the Visa Lodge Hotel where I was staying. She agreed to meet me in front of her house. She lived with her older sister, younger brother, and older brother with his wife. She came and got in the car with her pajamas on. She just talked. Not even a kiss. She could not go with me but she would come to see me the next day which was Saturday.
She brought a friend with her which was another spinner. They wanted to use the pool so they got dressed in my bathroom. When they came out I thought I was going to get off just looking at the two of them. A couple of guys working with me on a system there almost lost their jollies. Later I would join them in the pool. I had one setting on each of my knees as I play with their ass's ver discretely as not to scare them off. The friend was actually her cousin and I got the feeling she was looser than my little friend.
Two nights later she showed up with her two brothers and sister wanting to take some pics of her at the pool as it was her birthday. She was 20. After the pics, they all left and there I set with my dick in my hand as I had rejected an offer from another girl that night because I thought I may score with my little Virgin. Of course at this time I did not know she was a virgin or I would have stopped there.
Several times she came but always had a brother or friend with her.
Finally one night she showed up by herself. We Watched TV and started to fondle a little. I finally got one of her tits in my mouth and let me say that was a mouth full. I reversed ends and started playing with her little nookie. When I decided to taste it she got a little nervous and took some persuading to let me get my tongue in that sweet thing. She then slipped Mr Happy out and started to sucking on it. My thoughts never even wandered to the thought she may be a virgin. She was to good with her mouth but when I tried to switch she would not let me. She said she did not want to get pregnant so I just laid back and let her finish me with her mouth. She swallowed and laid back and asked me if it was good and I said great.
Several trips later I finally got inside that tight little box and I had to be gentle because it was hurting her. This was when I learned she was a virgin. After several times she finally got into riding cowgirl which turned out to be her favorite spot.
Her uncle went back to New York and told her parents she was fooling around with an old man and they did not approve of it. We only met in secret after that for a while. But this last time I was in Haiti she came to my room and gave me all a man could ask for. Her body has not changed any. She is still slim with those huge tits. Now she can give deep throat.
Wicked Willie
07-13-08, 15:15
My son who was 13 at the time was visiting me in Haiti. My son is a very smart kid even at 19.
So is your son 13 - or 19 - hmmmmm.... Makes ya wonder... LOL
Global Nomadrr
07-13-08, 17:43
It's up in Pietonville, about 3 blocks west of Place St. Pierre. Another good place is Jetset, just north of the Place. Well, Badbear has us all 'whipped' with his stories, and he's right to say you can go to lots of places. I've lived here a few months and as you all know, it's pretty easy to find girls, but security has also been much dicier than even six months ago, so one really needs to take care. They have and will kidnap any and all kinds, so my counsel is not be too cavalier.... Finding...the 'very right' kind of girls...maybe something again, but with so much abundance one shouldn't worry for it. I have met some girls and have phone numbers. As badbear knows, often they like to come with another, a wonderfully stimulating, if draining experience.
BadBear2000
07-13-08, 21:49
When I met the virgin, my son was 13. Now he is 19 and going to college to be a lawyer. His mother is Dominican
My son is now 19
So is your son 13 - or 19 - hmmmmm.... Makes ya wonder... LOL
Member #2128
07-14-08, 09:02
BADBEAR,
Thanks for sharing all these FANTASTIC pictures and terrific stories of Haiti where the streets are paved with absolutely beautiful women! It's hard to believe that such a place exists.
But what about all those reasons that 99.9 percent of us won't go there? Are you working for a Haitian kidnapping ring to lure over a bunch of mongers to kidnap them and then demand ranson from their wives back in the states? LOL
But seriously now, I've visited the Dominican Republic several times over the past few years specifically to meet those lovely Haitian beauties that come across the border. I had good days and bad days....and on the good days I was not disappointed! Is it possible for a middle-aged white guy in cargo shorts with a digital camera and pocket full of money to have a good time without getting totally robbed or worse. The Haitian economy is the worse in the world and all those young Haitian men, like the women, are willing to do what it takes to get a few bucks to live and have a good time. Only part is that the men do could do it in a violently displeasing way! Like robbing you or worse doing a kidnapping! That's why we stay on the Dominican side.
Is it time to cross the border.....for a clear-headed, adventurous, but not naive monger? Any straight thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Thanks.
#2128
BadBear2000
07-14-08, 10:22
For a newcomer it is best to be with some one. I would not advise going ouy by yourself. Most of the
haitians are good guys. It is the ones that came to Miami and NY and ran with the gangs that have given Haiti a bad name. Also the few that Aristide gave guns and promised them the world if they would back him. I never heard of anyone getting kidnapped while they were with someone.
BADBEAR,
Thanks for sharing all these FANTASTIC pictures and terrific stories of Haiti where the streets are paved with absolutely beautiful women! It's hard to believe that such a place exists.
But what about all those reasons that 99.9 percent of us won't go there? Are you working for a Haitian kidnapping ring to lure over a bunch of mongers to kidnap them and then demand ranson from their wives back in the states? LOL
But seriously now, I've visited the Dominican Republic several times over the past few years specifically to meet those lovely Haitian beauties that come across the border. I had good days and bad days....and on the good days I was not disappointed! Is it possible for a middle-aged white guy in cargo shorts with a digital camera and pocket full of money to have a good time without getting totally robbed or worse. The Haitian economy is the worse in the world and all those young Haitian men, like the women, are willing to do what it takes to get a few bucks to live and have a good time. Only part is that the men do could do it in a violently displeasing way! Like robbing you or worse doing a kidnapping! That's why we stay on the Dominican side.
Is it time to cross the border.....for a clear-headed, adventurous, but not naive monger? Any straight thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Thanks.
#2128
My son who was 13 at the time was visiting me in Haiti. We were going down town and saw this beautiful little sweetie walking and looking back in hopes of a ride. We gave her a ride down town as she was registering for some classes. She was beautiful. I gave her my telephone number and she gave me hers. After we let her out my son says, "Dad I would give her a call if I was you." My son is a very smart kid even at 19.
After my son went back to the states for school, I decided to give her a call and found out that she only lived a block from the Visa Lodge Hotel where I was staying. She agreed to meet me in front of her house. She lived with her older sister, younger brother, and older brother with his wife. She came and got in the car with her pajamas on. She just talked. Not even a kiss. She could not go with me but she would come to see me the next day which was Saturday.
She brought a friend with her which was another spinner. They wanted to use the pool so they got dressed in my bathroom. When they came out I thought I was going to get off just looking at the two of them. A couple of guys working with me on a system there almost lost their jollies. Later I would join them in the pool. I had one setting on each of my knees as I play with their ass's ver discretely as not to scare them off. The friend was actually her cousin and I got the feeling she was looser than my little friend.
Two nights later she showed up with her two brothers and sister wanting to take some pics of her at the pool as it was her birthday. She was 20. After the pics, they all left and there I set with my dick in my hand as I had rejected an offer from another girl that night because I thought I may score with my little Virgin. Of course at this time I did not know she was a virgin or I would have stopped there.
Several times she came but always had a brother or friend with her.
Finally one night she showed up by herself. We Watched TV and started to fondle a little. I finally got one of her tits in my mouth and let me say that was a mouth full. I reversed ends and started playing with her little nookie. When I decided to taste it she got a little nervous and took some persuading to let me get my tongue in that sweet thing. She then slipped Mr Happy out and started to sucking on it. My thoughts never even wandered to the thought she may be a virgin. She was to good with her mouth but when I tried to switch she would not let me. She said she did not want to get pregnant so I just laid back and let her finish me with her mouth. She swallowed and laid back and asked me if it was good and I said great.
Several trips later I finally got inside that tight little box and I had to be gentle because it was hurting her. This was when I learned she was a virgin. After several times she finally got into riding cowgirl which turned out to be her favorite spot.
Her uncle went back to New York and told her parents she was fooling around with an old man and they did not approve of it. We only met in secret after that for a while. But this last time I was in Haiti she came to my room and gave me all a man could ask for. Her body has not changed any. She is still slim with those huge tits. Now she can give deep throat.
Hi BadBear2000!
I am looking for a good girl friendly hotel to stay next time I go to Haiti. From what you say here it looks like Visa Lodge Hotel is guest friendly.
What is their price range?
Thanks again for bringing this tread back to life!
Global Nomadrr
07-15-08, 03:57
Badbear is right about that, and where a good bit of the badness comes. Don't go out by yourself, really, particularly if you're only visiting and don't know at all where you're going.... I do it, but only very judiciously. I spend more time out by myself in the daytime--when chica can also be found..., checking out what i believe are safe steets scenes, football matches, some festivals..just to get haitian 'sea legs' and know how things should feel, i think...And if you really wear cargo shirts and the digital camera and flashing money...well, that's just asking for an international incident...so really, don't go out dressed conspicuously. I wouldn't even trust all the 'police' vehicles i see, though their presence is appreciated....What could be a good business here, for aspiring mongers particularly, is to have taxis and drivers and cars that you can rent reasonably and have some escorted 'cover' to get around in, but nothing like that exists just now...or it does, but for pretty, by haitian standards, exhorbitant rates.
[For a newcomer it is best to be with some one. I would not advise going ouy by yourself. Most of the
haitians are good guys. It is the ones that came to Miami and NY and ran with the gangs that have given Haiti a bad name. Also the few that Aristide gave guns and promised them the world if they would back him. I never heard of anyone getting kidnapped while they were with someone.[/QUOTE]
BadBear2000
07-15-08, 04:33
The Visa Lodge is Girl friendly but the area is not too good and it is hot during the summer months. I was doing a job there. It depends how long you are going to stay and your finances. If I am going to stay in Petionville and I have the funds I would stay at the El Rancho. If I wanted to spent from $35 to $40 per night I stay at the Imperial off Delmars. They have security, wireless internet, and a pretty good restaurant. When I was staying at the Vida Lodge, I was doing a contract for them and it was not costing me anything. The rates then were $70 plus screw you taxes. It is now $90 plus screw you taxes and the grand sons have taken over. They have changed the place quite a bit and I don't think for the good.
If you have a taxi or driver, you go up Delmars and keep your eye out on the right side. You will see a Sign saying Imperial Hotel. You will go down that street about 3/4 of a mile. There is secure parking and many of the Haitians visiting will stay there with their local honeys. Some of the wealthier Haitians will stay there out of sight from Friends and families. I think I may have been the only white guy there but I was treated with respect. I use to stay at a place up in Petionville for $35 per night but without any improvements they raised the price to $70 which I thought was ridiculous because it was one of the bring your ***** for a while hotel. It hardly ever had hot water and the TV sucked. The Imperial was very surprising to me as it was my first time. The rooms are small but hey if all you want to do is sleep and get Mr Happy taken care of it is a good deal. You can spend your money on the sweetie and not the hotel management. When one of the girls visited one of her men friends, she brought a friend with her. I immediately saw she was just killing time so I got her into my room. This was back in Feb this year. She was great. She even went and bought me some mangoes with her own money and tried to make me her regular but I knew I was leaving and just kinda brushed it off., Batteries on my camera were down and I forgot to bring my charger. So no pics of that honey. They are everywhere
Hi BadBear2000!
I am looking for a good girl friendly hotel to stay next time I go toHaiti. From what you say here it looks like Visa Lodge Hotel is guest friendly.
What is their price range?
Thanks again for bringing this tread back to life!
The Visa Lodge is Girl friendly but the area is not too good and it is hot during the summer months. I was doing a job there. It depends how long you are going to stay and your finances. If I am going to stay in Petionville and I have the funds I would stay at the El Rancho. If I wanted to spent from $35 to $40 per night I stay at the Imperial off Delmars. They have security, wireless internet, and a pretty good restaurant. When I was staying at the Vida Lodge, I was doing a contract for them and it was not costing me anything. The rates then were $70 plus screw you taxes. It is now $90 plus screw you taxes and the grand sons have taken over. They have changed the place quite a bit and I don't think for the good.
If you have a taxi or driver, you go up Delmars and keep your eye out on the right side. You will see a Sign saying Imperial Hotel. You will go down that street about 3/4 of a mile. There is secure parking and many of the Haitians visiting will stay there with their local honeys. Some of the wealthier Haitians will stay there out of sight from Friends and families. I think I may have been the only white guy there but I was treated with respect. I use to stay at a place up in Petionville for $35 per night but without any improvements they raised the price to $70 which I thought was ridiculous because it was one of the bring your ***** for a while hotel. It hardly ever had hot water and the TV sucked. The Imperial was very surprising to me as it was my first time. The rooms are small but hey if all you want to do is sleep and get Mr Happy taken care of it is a good deal. You can spend your money on the sweetie and not the hotel management. When one of the girls visited one of her men friends, she brought a friend with her. I immediately saw she was just killing time so I got her into my room. This was back in Feb this year. She was great. She even went and bought me some mangoes with her own money and tried to make me her regular but I knew I was leaving and just kinda brushed it off., Batteries on my camera were down and I forgot to bring my charger. So no pics of that honey. They are everywhere
Thanks BadBear!
Very valuable info. Is Imperial around Delmas19 or Delmas 32?
Thanks again!
BadBear2000
07-15-08, 23:22
No, it is much closer to petionville
Thanks BadBear!
Very valuable info. Is Imperial around Delmas19 or Delmas 32?
Thanks again!
No, it is much closer to petionville
Thanks BadBear,
I think a taxi driver should know where it is. Is it safe to take a taxi from the airport to go there?
BadBear2000
07-16-08, 02:57
Yes, they should know. If nit just tell them to go up Delmars and watch for the big sign on the right side. The price use to be $20 U.S. but with the prices of fuel it is hard to say but I would not pay more than $30. Haggle with them, argue with them. Start off at $20 and don't back down until you absolutely see there is no chance. Do you know when you are going. If my friend gets his car running he would probably be even a better bet. Or if I am there we can handle it. Just let me know when you are going and I will try and have him at the airport. You can just hold a cardboard sign with his name on it so he could recognize you. I use to have a friend that was a good cab driver and tourist guide but I lost his number a long time ago,
Thanks BadBear,
I think a taxi driver should know where it is. Is it safe to take a taxi from the airport to go there?
Yes, they should know. If nit just tell them to go up Delmars and watch for the big sign on the right side. The price use to be $20 U.S. but with the prices of fuel it is hard to say but I would not pay more than $30. Haggle with them, argue with them. Start off at $20 and don't back down until you absolutely see there is no chance. Do you know when you are going. If my friend gets his car running he would probably be even a better bet. Or if I am there we can handle it. Just let me know when you are going and I will try and have him at the airport. You can just hold a cardboard sign with his name on it so he could recognize you. I use to have a friend that was a good cab driver and tourist guide but I lost his number a long time ago,
Thanks BadBear2000!
I have some other commitments that won't allow me to go there until October or November. I will surely get in touch with you when I have everything ready.
Thanks again!
BadBear2000
07-17-08, 06:21
No problem as I am sure I will be there by that time.
QUOTE=Papi0170]Thanks BadBear2000!
I have some other commitments that won't allow me to go there until October or November. I will surely get in touch with you when I have everything ready.
Thanks again![/QUOTE]
BadBear2000
08-01-08, 07:55
It has been a three months since I was in Haiti. I am planning to go August 13 or 14 for 10 days. The prices I am about to give you may have changed slightly because of the fuel prices.
1 Taxi from Airport to Hotel was $20 with an argument. I think you can get it still for $25 but no more than $30
2. I think the Imperial Hotel just of Delmars is the best deal going. They have security, a nice little restaurant, wireless internet, and a nice pool. There are usually girls hanging around in the area and it is girl friendly. Three months ago it was $35 cash or $39 credit card per night. I did not ask about a weekly rate
3. In Petionville probably the best prices on food is Harry's which everyone knows the location. At nights there will be hotties going in and out like a parade On the same stree just up from there is Munchees which is a pizza joint with other things and a great place to watch the babes on the street below. Up in Petionville you will find the St Pierre Restaurant which is reasonable in price and the best time to go there is late afternoon until about 8 PM. This place looks like a modeling show as the babes walk by. There will be SWers outside after dark but as I have said before. In Haiti you do not need to get them because the availability of hotties that are willing to please is outstanding as the number of girls per boys is 7 to 1. If you see a Hottie pass by, you just call out to her and invite her over. Make your move from there.
4. Now this is really going to freak you out. The best way to get around is by motor cycle. They are cheap and they get you there quick. They are every where. You pick one and get his telephone number. If you use him all the time he will give you better deals. Due to fuel costs, taxis are getting too expensive but you may get lucky at the hotel since Petionville is just up a little from the Imperial Hotel. If you find a babe you want to take back---just have your driver find another bike for her. Believe me as far as they are concerned this is traveling in style since they are accustomed to Tap Taps.
5. Perfume is a good gift.But Haitian girls like any kind of gift.
Good luck to all
Global Nomadrr
08-02-08, 22:55
I can also offer another, nuanced answer as Im a resident forpast three months. dont know it as well as Badbear but...
Imperial sounds great, and not a lot of other spots like it. Most places are much more expensive. Bear's refs for eating are good ones, but 'better' restaurants cost closer to real US city prices, except for beer. For the quality of life you get, Haiti's is expensive, even the better souvenirs, i think.
Bear's right that girls are plentiful and security concerns exagerated, a bit. Still, even yesterday a car with plates marked from the National Palace was seen doing a kidnapping, even a girl i know damn near got taken past week. Private motorbikes could be best way to get around as a private visitor, but I'd be careful about it, and travel with another if you can.
I haven't quite simply waved girls over to sit with me, but you might as well. Bear's inspired me to start my own photo collect; i haven't posted any yet and had no idea they would like to have so many taken, and proud to be so sexy. Come then, but be smart about it. Ive lived in some rough places and Haiti requires some street smarts.
It has been a three months since I was in Haiti. I am planning to go August 13 or 14 for 10 days. The prices I am about to give you may have changed slightly because of the fuel prices.
1 Taxi from Airport to Hotel was $20 with an argument. I think you can get it still for $25 but no more than $30
2. I think the Imperial Hotel just of Delmars is the best deal going. They have security, a nice little restaurant, wireless internet, and a nice pool. There are usually girls hanging around in the area and it is girl friendly. Three months ago it was $35 cash or $39 credit card per night. I did not ask about a weekly rate
3. In Petionville probably the best prices on food is Harry's which everyone knows the location. At nights there will be hotties going in and out like a parade On the same stree just up from there is Munchees which is a pizza joint with other things and a great place to watch the babes on the street below. Up in Petionville you will find the St Pierre Restaurant which is reasonable in price and the best time to go there is late afternoon until about 8 PM. This place looks like a modeling show as the babes walk by. There will be SWers outside after dark but as I have said before. In Haiti you do not need to get them because the availability of hotties that are willing to please is outstanding as the number of girls per boys is 7 to 1. If you see a Hottie pass by, you just call out to her and invite her over. Make your move from there.
4. Now this is really going to freak you out. The best way to get around is by motor cycle. They are cheap and they get you there quick. They are every where. You pick one and get his telephone number. If you use him all the time he will give you better deals. Due to fuel costs, taxis are getting too expensive but you may get lucky at the hotel since Petionville is just up a little from the Imperial Hotel. If you find a babe you want to take back---just have your driver find another bike for her. Believe me as far as they are concerned this is traveling in style since they are accustomed to Tap Taps.
5. Perfume is a good gift.But Haitian girls like any kind of gift.
Good luck to all
Good report Global Nomadrr! Very informative!
I hope you give some more detail about the mongering scene, and a whole lot of pictures!
Give us a run down about the girls in the picture.
Thanks! Keep the pictures coming!
I can also offer another, nuanced answer as Im a resident forpast three months. dont know it as well as Badbear but...
Imperial sounds great, and not a lot of other spots like it. Most places are much more expensive. Bear's refs for eating are good ones, but 'better' restaurants cost closer to real US city prices, except for beer. For the quality of life you get, Haiti's is expensive, even the better souvenirs, i think.
Bear's right that girls are plentiful and security concerns exagerated, a bit. Still, even yesterday a car with plates marked from the National Palace was seen doing a kidnapping, even a girl i know damn near got taken past week. Private motorbikes could be best way to get around as a private visitor, but I'd be careful about it, and travel with another if you can.
I haven't quite simply waved girls over to sit with me, but you might as well. Bear's inspired me to start my own photo collect; i haven't posted any yet and had no idea they would like to have so many taken, and proud to be so sexy. Come then, but be smart about it. Ive lived in some rough places and Haiti requires some street smarts.
Permanent Damage
08-03-08, 04:06
Global,
Thanks for your report. With the recent posts of BB2000, and your latest addition, this board has a lot of people considering taking a trip to Haiti.
Good show!
P.D.
Hello BB,
Thanks for the info. I was going to try to visit both the DR and Haiti. I'm trying to figure out what is the best mode of transport while there. Any other place that I visit outside the US, I fly in, rent a car, and find a hotel on the fly. I don't do a lot of planning and use the car a lot to find hot spots. But it sounds like car rentals and fuel are very expensive down there.
Do you know about the bus ride from the DR to PAP? Is it safe? Do you have to get off the bus at the Hatian border and have your passport stamped? etc... Do you have any input on the best way to travel once on the island? How would you do it?
Thanks!
It has been a three months since I was in Haiti. I am planning to go August 13 or 14 for 10 days. The prices I am about to give you may have changed slightly because of the fuel prices.
1 Taxi from Airport to Hotel was $20 with an argument. I think you can get it still for $25 but no more than $30
2. I think the Imperial Hotel just of Delmars is the best deal going. They have security, a nice little restaurant, wireless internet, and a nice pool. There are usually girls hanging around in the area and it is girl friendly. Three months ago it was $35 cash or $39 credit card per night. I did not ask about a weekly rate
3. In Petionville probably the best prices on food is Harry's which everyone knows the location. At nights there will be hotties going in and out like a parade On the same stree just up from there is Munchees which is a pizza joint with other things and a great place to watch the babes on the street below. Up in Petionville you will find the St Pierre Restaurant which is reasonable in price and the best time to go there is late afternoon until about 8 PM. This place looks like a modeling show as the babes walk by. There will be SWers outside after dark but as I have said before. In Haiti you do not need to get them because the availability of hotties that are willing to please is outstanding as the number of girls per boys is 7 to 1. If you see a Hottie pass by, you just call out to her and invite her over. Make your move from there.
4. Now this is really going to freak you out. The best way to get around is by motor cycle. They are cheap and they get you there quick. They are every where. You pick one and get his telephone number. If you use him all the time he will give you better deals. Due to fuel costs, taxis are getting too expensive but you may get lucky at the hotel since Petionville is just up a little from the Imperial Hotel. If you find a babe you want to take back---just have your driver find another bike for her. Believe me as far as they are concerned this is traveling in style since they are accustomed to Tap Taps.
5. Perfume is a good gift.But Haitian girls like any kind of gift.
Good luck to all
BadBear2000
08-06-08, 22:59
The bus ride is very pleasant. They have movies and serve a meal while you are in transit. You will have to stop at the border on both sides but the bus line takes care of all the crap. You will have to open your bags when entering the DR much like when you arrive at the airport. The bus personnel will handle the passport stamping. All you do is stand there and wait for your name to be called and then go back to the bus. You will have to go through this on both sides of the border. The bus trip takes about 6 hours but you will see alot of interesting scenery. I will be traveling on a bus from Haiti to the DR on the 18th or 19th of August. Carribe Tours or Terra Bus either one is good even though I am partial to Carribe Tours. In the DR car rental is not too bad but you are better off to get a trust worthy taxi driver as you are only paying him when you are on the move whereas if you have a rental you are constantly paying. If you want to stay in Santo Domingo I recommend the Maison Gautreaux as it is just of the Malecone or board walk. It is located at Felix Mariano Lluberes # 8 Gazue or if you want you can have the taxi call this number for directions 809-412-7837. In Haiti, I still recommend the Imperial Hotel off Delmars. But there rental cars are very expensive and for a new comer it is difficult to drive. I still recommend the motor cycle guys since they are cheap and will get you there in a hurry I have a taxi driver's name and number in the DR and I will have a driver's name in Haiti next week if you want to message me.
Hello BB,
Thanks for the info. I was going to try to visit both the DR and Haiti. I'm trying to figure out what is the best mode of transport while there. Any other place that I visit outside the US, I fly in, rent a car, and find a hotel on the fly. I don't do a lot of planning and use the car a lot to find hot spots. But it sounds like car rentals and fuel are very expensive down there.
Do you know about the bus ride from the DR to PAP? Is it safe? Do you have to get off the bus at the Hatian border and have your passport stamped? etc... Do you have any input on the best way to travel once on the island? How would you do it?
Thanks!
A general question for anyone who frequents haiti. What are the politics of haiti and what is in there future. It sounds like its a mongering heaven but what would it take to be even better. Will there come a time when anyone going there will feel safe and not have to worry about kidnapping. What needs to happen to change a new government or a better economy for the people.
Considering a trip very soon.
BadBear2000
08-11-08, 03:46
The kidnapping is not as bad as they say. However it does happen sometimes. I have never felt insecure. It is best to be with someone. If you are new, I would not travel alone on some roads but during the day in Petionville and up and down Delmars there should be no problem. I think the economy needs to be improved to stop many of the problems.[
QUOTE=Don Smith]A general question for anyone who frequents haiti. What are the politics of haiti and what is in there future. It sounds like its a mongering heaven but what would it take to be even better. Will there come a time when anyone going there will feel safe and not have to worry about kidnapping. What needs to happen to change a new government or a better economy for the people.
Considering a trip very soon.[/QUOTE]
Global Nomadrr
08-11-08, 22:48
Your question is painfully broad, for those who've worked on the Haitian development problem for some time. Good governance is a real pre-condition for national progress, but self-interests, the terrible economy and food security crisis are the more tangible pre-occupations, and why there is a good deal of kidnapping--which won't happen to you if you follow common sense, keep a low profile, and Badbear's counsel. What needs to happen is donors staying the course, more private sector/Haitian diaspora involvement and investment, and the forces of reason within what little broader government Haiti has...prevail.
The kidnapping is not as bad as they say. However it does happen sometimes. I have never felt insecure. It is best to be with someone. If you are new, I would not travel alone on some roads but during the day in Petionville and up and down Delmars there should be no problem. I think the economy needs to be improved to stop many of the problems.[
QUOTE=Don Smith]A general question for anyone who frequents haiti. What are the politics of haiti and what is in there future. It sounds like its a mongering heaven but what would it take to be even better. Will there come a time when anyone going there will feel safe and not have to worry about kidnapping. What needs to happen to change a new government or a better economy for the people.
Considering a trip very soon.[/QUOTE]
BadBear2000
08-19-08, 04:18
I have not had a chance to play any this trip but now that my jobs are complete I plan to play. If there is anyone here that would like to talk with me give me a call at 3761-1111
I have not had a chance to play any this trip but now that my jobs are complete I plan to play. If there is anyone here that would like to talk with me give me a call at 3761-1111
I wholeheartedly sympatize with the people of Haiti with all that is taking lace there now after being hit by Tropical storms and Hurricanes.
Bad Bear2000 and others that are in Haiti now, I know you are probably busy, but let us know how the people there are coping. I wish them a prompt recovery.
Papi
BadBear2000
09-26-08, 21:59
Guys, I will be back in Haiti in the next month. Plans are to be staying soon. I will fill you up with pics then. Just be patient. I will try to make you horny old guys get such a hard on that you will just have to make a trip to the land of honey. Or is that honeys
Hey guys
A few things to keep in mind. This was my third trip to Haiti with many more to come in the future. I am a middle aged white guy, speak limited Creole (I'm learning) but decent French. I have travelled alot but swore I'd never go to PAP (haha). I am not an aficionado specifically of black girls (any color is OK with me).
The BAD:
- A US standards hotel will run you $75US a night + heavy taxes so it comes out to about $85+ a night. See photo below for where I stayed in Petionville. There are cheaper ones. I tried one that was recommended by a member. It had a pool and a decent restaurant, but the rooms were small and dank. It was however cheaper at $48 a night. I had no real problem with it but I suspect alot of others would. I moved to the one in the picture below as it was only 2 blocks from the CaribeTours bus station and I had to catch an early morning bus the next day.
- Driving is impossible if you don't know you're way around. I have driven in the DR, Cuba, Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, etc but would NOT drive in Haiti. Besides being lawless as far as obeying any kind of road rules, road signs are scarce and many times a road is called something other that what it says! Plus, gas is expensive and traffic is unbelievably heavy in PAP. I rode the tap-taps which was very cool but I would have NEVER been able to navigate the system without the local I was with.
- Food can be expensive. Restaurants on par with US restaurants are more expensive than here. However, with a little digging, you can find decent places with good food that won't get you sick. I can tell you that Haitian Creole cuisine is EXCELLENT and would say that the food in Haiti is better than anywhere else in the Caribbean (PS I was in the restaurant business for many years).
- The garbage (Haitis government offers almost no services) takes a little getting used to. It's everywhere but remarkably, the city smells pretty good as the ocean breezes whisk it away. Also, the poverty takes a little getting used to. We've all seen poverty on our travels, but this will probably be worse than you have ever seen outside of Africa.
The GOOD:
- It's easy and cheap to get to from the US. AA flies direct from Miami several times a day. I also understand there are direct flights for you Euro boys. Customs was a breeze with absolutely no hassles or questions. Be sure you have pre-arranged transportation from the airport to wherever you are going. Also, if you go to the DR, the bus ride back and forth to PAP is only about 5 1/2 hours and painless.
- Safety was a non-issue. I never felt threatened or that I was ever in any kind of danger. I'm from NY and can usually smell trouble a mile away. Can it happen? Sure, but it can also happen in Anytown, USA just as easy.
- AIDS prevelency is <3% in Haiti according to a WHO report which in relation to say Cuba (0.6%), is quite high. However, you shouldn't be barebacking ANYWHERE in the world. The girls I was with were not street ho's, I always kept it covered and never really worried. I bet if you measured the AIDS prevelency among pro girls you fuck in other Latin American places (Sosua, Medellin, Rio), you might get higher results. Just food for thought.
- Haitians are REALLY nice people. They don't smile much on their own, but one smile to them and they beam. They will normally bend over backwards to help you. I never felt threatened at all during the day but also wasn't out much at night. I found Rio to be much more dangerous. Just practice your street smarts (don't be flashy, be respectful of others, walk with confidence, etc) and you'll be fine.
- The girls are PHENOMENAL. These are marrying quality girls. Sure you could go to Petionville at night and pick up a prostitute, but why bother? All you really need to do is smile and approach them (see BadBear 2000's reports....they're right on). Guys, these are sweet, hard working, loving girls who will absolutely rock your world. They are very conservative when you meet them as Haiti in general is a conservative society and conscientious of what people think about them (ie the neighbors and family). But man, when that door closes...watch out. Anything goes :)
BTW, a typical non-pro Haitian girl will be very happy if you treat her nice and give her $15 - $20 US dollars for the afternoon :)
Alright, now I know that alot of you guys read this board but a very small percentage of you will actually ever go. Haiti is difficult but not impossible. I will be back next month and am looking to put together some ex-pats and trusted locals who can put together some trips. They would include:
- putting you up in nice, girl friendly hotels
- having transportation w/ drivers available
- having translators on site
- making you feel comfortable
- and of course introducing you to a bunch Haitian sweeties.
Why? Haiti got a bad rap from the 2004 troubles with the kidnappings, etc. Haiti is great if all the elements are in place and needs tourist dollars. Besides, what's wrong with discovering a new place and having some fun?
La Isla,
Excellent report; thank you for posting. The only thing I found surprising about your report was your statement that you felt perfectly safe all the time. I'm not disputing you--after all, you've been there and I haven't--but I'm still surprised. Haiti is one place I have avoided because I thought it would be unsafe (and to put this in context, I am a fairly intrepid traveler and don't scare easily, but Haiti has scared me). Maybe I need to rethink that.
So, just a couple of questions. 1) Did you go alone? BadBear2000 has cautioned several times against traveling to Haiti alone. Do you disagree with that? 2) I have read that the greatest danger lies in coming in from the airport, and several travel writers caution against taking a taxi from the airport, recommending instead that you have someone who knows you, or your hotel, pick you up. How did you get into PAP from the airport (or did you travel overland)?
Thanks. Any information would be appreciated.
L
La Isla,
Excellent report; thank you for posting. The only thing I found surprising about your report was your statement that you felt perfectly safe all the time.
Like I said too, "I have travelled alot but swore I'd never go to PAP (haha)."
So, just a couple of questions. 1) Did you go alone? BadBear2000 has cautioned several times against traveling to Haiti alone. Do you disagree with that?
I did go alone, but had arranged for others on the ground to meet me. I had a great time but it would have been very, very difficult if I did not have those connections. Hence, the idea to talk with those guys about escorting others in the future. In the end, its a couple of hundred bucks more but they are happy, I'm happy and Mr Happy is happy :)
I have read that the greatest danger lies in coming in from the airport, and several travel writers caution against taking a taxi from the airport, recommending instead that you have someone who knows you, or your hotel, pick you up. How did you get into PAP from the airport (or did you travel overland)?
Again, I had the guys meet me and pick me up. I have also been to Cap Haitian in the past. In the future, I'd like to explore Jacmel, Gonaives, etc. Also, don't forget that Haiti has some seriously beautiful mountains and coastlines. If PAP is the most dangerous place in Haiti, I can only imaging how friendly the other areas must be.
There is no way that you can travel to Haiti without good transportation, a working knowledge of Creole and someone on the ground and have a good time. With those factors in place, Haiti can be great. Thus it bears the question, would you pay a couple of hundred bucks more to have all those elements in place? Judging by how much you guys pay to go to some of the other places mentioned on ISG, I would say "yes". If so, Haiti is an exotic, beautiful locale with some really sweet girls.
BadBear2000
10-02-08, 17:55
I keep trying to tell all of you. I feel much safer in Haiti than many cities in the U.S. I will be going this next month for a month. I will then return to the states for approximately 2 weeks before I go back to stay. If I worried about my safety, I surely would not go back to live. And the girls are great. They love sex and you are actually better off to stay away from the SWers. They are too commercial. I had a friend from England who found the great girl at one of the Dominican Houses. He shacked up with her for several months. Then one day he asked her why she was better in the sack when he first met her and she said that was commercial. So he ask her for a quick advertisement. The normal Haitian girls are better than the SWers because they are trying to win your heart. They know if they can win your heart, they may have a chance to get out of Haiti. Let's face it. When the ratio of girls to boys are like 7 or 8 to 1, what chance do you think they have of getting hitched with a good guy in Haiti. Don't worry just be happy between the legs of a hot Haitian babe.
Like I said too, "I have travelled alot but swore I'd never go to PAP (haha)."
I did go alone, but had arranged for others on the ground to meet me. I had a great time but it would have been very, very difficult if I did not have those connections. Hence, the idea to talk with those guys about escorting others in the future. In the end, its a couple of hundred bucks more but they are happy, I'm happy and Mr Happy is happy :)
Again, I had the guys meet me and pick me up. I have also been to Cap Haitian in the past. In the future, I'd like to explore Jacmel, Gonaives, etc. Also, don't forget that Haiti has some seriously beautiful mountains and coastlines. If PAP is the most dangerous place in Haiti, I can only imaging how friendly the other areas must be.
There is no way that you can travel to Haiti without good transportation, a working knowledge of Creole and someone on the ground and have a good time. With those factors in place, Haiti can be great. Thus it bears the question, would you pay a couple of hundred bucks more to have all those elements in place? Judging by how much you guys pay to go to some of the other places mentioned on ISG, I would say "yes". If so, Haiti is an exotic, beautiful locale with some really sweet girls.
Hey La Isla!
Thanks for the good report. Thanks for the pics. I hope you have more.
What's the name of the hotel shown in the pictures? It looks very nice, and if it's close to Caribe Tours office it sounds ideal. I might try to go to Haiti from DR. I am looking into that. Keep the photos coming!
Thanks again!
I moved to the one in the picture below as it was only 2 blocks from the CaribeTours bus station and I had to catch an early morning bus the next day. Which hotel is that? And was the one that was $48 the Imperial in Delmas? I'm flying in on Wednesday and have got something lined up but need to find a hotel fast.
Which hotel is that? And was the one that was $48 the Imperial in Delmas? I'm flying in on Wednesday and have got something lined up but need to find a hotel fast.
Man, I'm having a brain fart on the name. I'll see if I can find my receipt. No, that was not the Imperial on Delmas. I did stay there also, but this one was nicer (but more expensive).
BadBear2000
10-06-08, 04:48
Go to the photo section 8/19 to see the Villa Imperial. I am not famiar with the other
Which hotel is that? And was the one that was $48 the Imperial in Delmas? I'm flying in on Wednesday and have got something lined up but need to find a hotel fast.
Alright. Well I think I'm pretty much decided on the Kinam. From everything I see I should be able to get a room for around $80, and I've eaten at the restaurant there a number of times so I'm already familiar with it. I'd rather pay a little extra and know what I'm getting into than try to save a few bucks and roll the dice. Besides, my girl lives in Petion-ville, anyway, so it just makes it easier all around.
Thanks for your help, guys.
Lagocache,
It's good to know you are going sown to Haiti. Get plenty information about all you can, hotels, restaurants, transportation, girls, etc. Take a lot of pictures, and make sure you ENJOY yourself my man!
FoxesHunter
10-12-08, 18:07
Hi, I speak spanish only. In your opinion could I visit Haiti? Are there enough people speaking spanish?
thanks
Hi, I speak spanish only. In your opinion could I visit Haiti? Are there enough people speaking spanish?
thanks
FYI, they speak Creole there. Some of the more educated people speak French. Unless they've lived for a time in the DR, they DO NOT "speakie Spanish".
IMHO, its a tough place to be with no contacts and no language skills.
BadBear2000
10-14-08, 05:04
I can tell you now. The Kinam is good but it is not girl friendly. You would have to take her in during the day and keep her there until the night if you want an all nighter. I have done that before. The El Rancho is nice and it is more Girl Friendly but I have heard of another place that is cheaper. in Petionville
Alright. Well I think I'm pretty much decided on the Kinam. From everything I see I should be able to get a room for around $80, and I've eaten at the restaurant there a number of times so I'm already familiar with it. I'd rather pay a little extra and know what I'm getting into than try to save a few bucks and roll the dice. Besides, my girl lives in Petion-ville, anyway, so it just makes it easier all around.
Thanks for your help, guys.
BadBear2000
10-14-08, 05:06
I will be in Haiti Saturday night and expect to get my camera burning from the hot nookie along with Mr Happy
I can tell you now. The Kinam is good but it is not girl friendly. You would have to take her in during the day and keep her there until the night if you want an all nighter. I have done that before. The El Rancho is nice and it is more Girl Friendly but I have heard of another place that is cheaper. in PetionvilleI checked in a little before 11 Am and she came around 12:30. She just walked right up to my room and then we didn't go out to the pool together until night time when the morning staff had gone home. So we had no problems. For future reference, though, what is this other place you've heard of in P=Ville that's cheaper?
Hi Lagocache, Bad Bear2000, and any other fellow down there now or going to Haiti soon, get lots of info and pictures, pictures, and more pictures. Thanks in advance!
BootyLover
10-18-08, 12:35
I will be in Haiti Saturday night and expect to get my camera burning from the hot nookie along with Mr Happy
Good to hear that since I happen to be there.
I'm not really a monger, just come around here checking things out and trying to find decent hotels. But I will say that Petion-ville at night is very active with SWs, and security is a little better than it's been in recent years. 7 years ago I'd come across maybe 3 corners with some SWs in Petionville. On Monday night it seemed like every corner I drove past had at least 2 or 3 girls looking for work. Everything from dark-skinned to light-skinned, mostly young, very eager for work.
Good to hear that since I happen to be there.
Hey BootyLover my man!
It's been a while! What are you up to? I thought you gave up on this thread. I am looking forward to a lot of pics from all of you guys down there now.
Thanks
I am looking forward to visiting PAP Nov 5 to 9 and I wanted some info on picking up a taxi from the airport and getting a phone to use while I am there? Where would I get this? Sounds lie the Imperial is the hotel of choice but where to pick up chicks?
Is there any way to book this hotel online or any of these hotels?
What is the best way to book these places?
BootyLover
10-21-08, 12:20
I am looking forward to visiting PAP Nov 5 to 9 and I wanted some info on picking up a taxi from the airport and getting a phone to use while I am there? Where would I get this? Sounds lie the Imperial is the hotel of choice but where to pick up chicks?
You might rent a phone right from the airport or your best bet is to bring your own unlocked gsm phone (1800to 1900 MHZ) and head to a Digicel store. Yellow cabs are available from the airport and picking spots are everywhere, only pros have special spots.
online booking???????? you must be kidding
I lived in Haiti for two years and found that though creole is the local language, many of the WG have experience in the DR and do speak varying levels of Spanish.
Cheers,
MD65
Hi, I speak spanish only. In your opinion could I visit Haiti? Are there enough people speaking spanish?
thanks
BadBear2000
10-22-08, 01:06
I am just posting some pics of a gal a friend of mine told me about. She is not a pro. She just likes to F**K. Gave great head and took it in every hole. 19 years old spinner. God its great to be back.
Great and thanks for getting back to me! Now since it is my first time I think it might be unwise to rent a car but what does everyone think about it? Since I am guessing that you can't book the hotels online, will it be hard to book one when I get there and do they speak english? What hotel do you recommend?
Thank you all for all this help and I can't wait to go and judge for myself!
Global Nomadrr
10-23-08, 00:50
I live here and don't think renting a car is necessary, if you don't mind befriending some dude off the street who's got a motorbike to take you on. Offer him a retainer of..i don't know...3-400/gourdes/hour to be at your disposal. A better one can take/guide you around to sites and driving these streets and traffic is just too dangerous and disorienting for a visitor. BadBear's hotel is a good spot to be, or you could spend more at El Rancho and find some action in the casino on a saturday, i am told. Badbear prefers waving at them right off the street, and they--incredibly really, and I live here--often come to him, not pros either. Now, not speaking any french or creole won't make it very easy for you, but hotel and some restaurant staff will understand. It's fun, and safer than its reputation, but don't dismiss security concerns. Haiti is shakier, i think, than it appears to be. And be Nice to the girls, okay?, 'cause they are to us, but don't entirely pamper and spoil them either.
Great and thanks for getting back to me! Now since it is my first time I think it might be unwise to rent a car but what does everyone think about it? Since I am guessing that you can't book the hotels online, will it be hard to book one when I get there and do they speak english? What hotel do you recommend?
Thank you all for all this help and I can't wait to go and judge for myself!
BadBear2000
10-24-08, 07:59
call me and let me know what flight you are coming and I will intoduce you to Haiti. We are getting ready to set up a sight just for you new comers to Haiti. There are hungry girls out there needing to be fed in every hole.
Great and thanks for getting back to me! Now since it is my first time I think it might be unwise to rent a car but what does everyone think about it? Since I am guessing that you can't book the hotels online, will it be hard to book one when I get there and do they speak english? What hotel do you recommend?
Thank you all for all this help and I can't wait to go and judge for myself!
Just the news I wanted to hear and I will be there maybe Nov 5-9. I will call you soon and thanks for your number i will call you!
Member #4358
10-25-08, 13:49
La Isla & BadBear,
You both provide very good information, useful information about the area.
La Isla.- You addressed one question I have had for a while. The language and that Creole being the dominate language.
Can one communicate with the ladies in English or Spanish?
Is Creole a twist of French (which I cannot speak)?
I am guessing that BadBear must speak some Creole?
I have traveled in Asia for some years and non being able to communicate does not bother me, aside from being able to negotiate or come to an understanding with a lady. I would imagine this language barrier makes it harder to bring in the non-pros, but not so difficult for pros standing on street corners as it is just a matter of agreeing to a fee with hand signals.
Secondly, La Isla I for one would definitely budget for and take advantage of have a network of people to help guide and look after my well being during a visit. Please keep us up-to-date as to how this progresses.
Hey guys
A few things to keep in mind. This was my third trip to Haiti with many more to come in the future. I am a middle aged white guy, speak limited Creole (I'm learning) but decent French. I have travelled alot but swore I'd never go to PAP (haha). I am not an aficionado specifically of black girls (any color is OK with me).
I will be back next month and am looking to put together some ex-pats and trusted locals who can put together some trips. They would include:
- putting you up in nice, girl friendly hotels
- having transportation w/ drivers available
- having translators on site
- making you feel comfortable
- and of course introducing you to a bunch Haitian sweeties.
Cunning Linguist
10-25-08, 17:08
call me and let me know what flight you are coming and I will intoduce you to Haiti. We are getting ready to set up a sight just for you new comers to Haiti. There are hungry girls out there needing to be fed in every hole.
Wow, Bad Bear, I must confess my sincere admiration for you conquests and photography. You are my hero!!!
I have been to Sosúa a couple of times but I only really liked the Haitian girls. Thus, instead of going to Sosúa, why not go directly to Haiti instead of Sosúa? I speak French quite well and can even go by comfortably in Krèyol and so communication with the girls would be no problem. I will be going there in August for about 5 days (more is impossible, unfortunately). My only worry is having the contacts figured out as far as transport between the airport and the hotel. Security and safety also figure most highly for me since I don't know the place like you. I am sure that trailblazers like you will convince people like me to give Haiti a try.
I certainly hope that you will be around in August 2009.
I like slim, svelte girls that eschew razors. I assume finding them is easy from what I gather from your reports
BadBear2000
10-26-08, 17:18
The only reason I would not be here then is if I was dead
Wow, Bad Bear, I must confess my sincere admiration for you conquests and photography. You are my hero!!!
I have been to Sosúa a couple of times but I only really liked the Haitian girls. Thus, instead of going to Sosúa, why not go directly to Haiti instead of Sosúa? I speak French quite well and can even go by comfortably in Krèyol and so communication with the girls would be no problem. I will be going there in August for about 5 days (more is impossible, unfortunately). My only worry is having the contacts figured out as far as transport between the airport and the hotel. Security and safety also figure most highly for me since I don't know the place like you. I am sure that trailblazers like you will convince people like me to give Haiti a try.
I certainly hope that you will be around in August 2009.
I like slim, svelte girls that eschew razors. I assume finding them is easy from what I gather from your reports
Cunning Linguist
10-26-08, 17:43
The only reason I would not be here then is if I was dead
That is certainly good news and a very, very, very long life to you!!!! I think that you may have helped kindle an intense interest in Haiti.
As August 2009 approaches, we will be in touch either through the board or by private message
One question, where you are, is it the case that you just go down the street, eye a girl, call her over and ask her whether she'd like "to get down"? I really would like to meet girls like your "Nancy"!!!
Also, you have mentioned that one should not "be flashy". I suppose that means no Rolex watches, suits, or expensive jewelery but would nice Dockers and a Ralph Lauren or Lacoste shirt also be "too flashy" for Haiti and an invitation to be robbed, kidnapped, or worse? I am speaking out of ignorance.
Keep up the good work!!!!
La Isla & BadBear,
You both provide very good information, useful information about the area.
La Isla.- You addressed one question I have had for a while. The language and that Creole being the dominate language.
Can one communicate with the ladies in English or Spanish?
Is Creole a twist of French (which I cannot speak)?
I am guessing that BadBear must speak some Creole?
I have traveled in Asia for some years and non being able to communicate does not bother me, aside from being able to negotiate or come to an understanding with a lady. I would imagine this language barrier makes it harder to bring in the non-pros, but not so difficult for pros standing on street corners as it is just a matter of agreeing to a fee with hand signals.
Secondly, La Isla I for one would definitely budget for and take advantage of have a network of people to help guide and look after my well being during a visit. Please keep us up-to-date as to how this progresses.
You addressed one question I have had for a while. The language and that Creole being the dominate language. Can one communicate with the ladies in English or Spanish?
No unless they happen to speak either of those languages
Is Creole a twist of French (which I cannot speak)?
I DO speak French and Creole is difficult even for me BUT in PAP it does come in handy. I have English>Creole Language CDs that I am studying.
I am guessing that BadBear must speak some Creole?
Well, yes he does, at least enough to communicate :)
I would imagine this language barrier makes it harder to bring in the non-pros, but not so difficult for pros standing on street corners as it is just a matter of agreeing to a fee with hand signals.
Nope, non-pros are easy also. In Haiti, you don't need to be banging pros...
Secondly, La Isla I for one would definitely budget for and take advantage of have a network of people to help guide and look after my well being during a visit. Please keep us up-to-date as to how this progresses
Its a work in progress. In fact, I will be down very shortly to try and tie things up a little more. BigBear and I are actually friends. If we can get the right people to work with us, it'll be great. The language barrier is a big thing. Looks like we have a small group of people (including ex-pats) on the ground who know Haiti well and speak English ready to come on board. Lodging and transportation are looking good also. Plus, we've found quite a few local nonpros (who find others for us) who speak at least some English. Let's see how it all pans out. I'll keep you guys posted.
lol!
you guys should all be ashamed of yourselves. this man posts photos of himself abusing **** girls and all of you praise him! i am talking about the set of photos in post #115. badbear2000, can claim the girls are legal all he wants, but even a moron can see that these girls are under 18.
since this site does not condone child porn, i assure you those photos will be taken down.
badbear2000, you should be ashamed and worried. please, stick to photos of girls over 18, since we are not all ****s here.
thank you.
hi fredmeyer!
i appreciate your concern. i feel it is legitimate. however, first of all, i want to ask you if you are familiar with haitian girls. i have met some that looked 15 when they were 22 and sometimes the mother of one or two children. don't let looks fool you. those girls are of age. there is no question about it.
l don,t know why people spend money to go to Haiti for our Hobby when they can go to South America(Brazil, Argentina,Peru or any other place .lf you are from Haiti ,there is nothing wrong going home and having a good time.Me personally l will never return to that place any more.People will ask why the hell did l go there ?My wife is from there.
The presidential palace is very beautiful ,but the area is a mess.Why will such a place be built in an area like that?
l just wanna say awhole lot about Haiti.l did go out when l was there.Nothing to report here, l have been to Brazil three times,Mexico twice and other countries so l know what good time is.
Maybe a hint here, I have several haitians girl friends, and they are the best lovers I know.
l don,t know why people spend money to go to Haiti for our Hobby when they can go to South America(Brazil, Argentina,Peru or any other place .lf you are from Haiti , there is nothing wrong going home and having a good time. Me personally l will never return to that place any more.People will ask why the hell did l go there ?My wife is from there.
The presidential palace is very beautiful ,but the area is a mess.Why will such a place be built in an area like that?
l just wanna say awhole lot about Haiti.l did go out when l was there. Nothing to report here, l have been to Brazil three times,Mexico twice and other countries so l know what good time is.
l don,t know why people spend money to go to Haiti for our Hobby when they can go to South America(Brazil, Argentina,Peru or any other place .lf you are from Haiti ,there is nothing wrong going home and having a good time.Me personally l will never return to that place any more.People will ask why the hell did l go there ?My wife is from there.
The presidential palace is very beautiful ,but the area is a mess.Why will such a place be built in an area like that?
l just wanna say awhole lot about Haiti.l did go out when l was there.Nothing to report here, l have been to Brazil three times,Mexico twice and other countries so l know what good time is.
Hi Dogdays!
It's just a matter of taste. Too bad!!!
What you like I may not like. What I like you may not like! So goes life.
I definitely appreciate the line Dogdays but I want to have my view and Brazil and those other places sound so professional and about money. I am very interested since I read all reports on here and it just sounds so genuine, a little like Thailand and Phillipines so I want my taste!
Cunning Linguist
10-31-08, 12:33
maybe a hint here, i have several haitians girl friends, and they are the best lovers i know.
arainmain is right. the best girls i had in sosúa were all haitian. i have travelled around the world and i can say that it is different strokes for different folks.
i would also like to defend badbear. i am supremely confident that jackson would never allow for **** girls to be shown on this site. it is such a no-no for every conceivable reason. one of the haitian girls i had in sosúa looked quite young but her documents proved to the contrary (i am quite convinced they were legit). thus, i am willing to take bigbear for his word and my trust in jackson is absolute.
The presidential palace is very beautiful ,but the area is a mess.Why will such a place be built in an area like that?The area around the palace wasn't always as dirty as it is now. Generations of corruption and neglect are the biggest reason Port-au-Prince (along with the rest of the country) are in the condition they're in now. There was a time in the 1950s that Haiti was a very popular tourist destination for Americans. The streets were clean and safe and the infrastructure was better then than it is now.
arainmain is right. the best girls i had in sosúa were all haitian. i have travelled around the world and i can say that it is different strokes for different folks.
i would also like to defend badbear. i am supremely confident that jackson would never allow for **** girls to be shown on this site. it is such a no-no for every conceivable reason. one of the haitian girls i had in sosúa looked quite young but her documents proved to the contrary (i am quite convinced they were legit). thus, i am willing to take bigbear for his word and my trust in jackson is absolute.
i agree with cunning linguist. personally i have met several haitian girls that looked ****. however, i came to find out later that they were of age.
i also want to add my support for badbear2000 and jackson's judgement. i am confident that badbear would not do anything of that sort.
to badbear, i want to say, don't be intimidated by those attacks. we enjoy very much your contribution to this forum. please, continue to post the pictures of those beautiful and sexy haitian girls. thanks
Member #4351
10-31-08, 18:18
Fredmeyer only has one post and is obviously one of those anti-sex fanatic trolls that appear from time to time on ISG with an idiotic comment. These guys are also famous for screaming hysterically when some guy posts a penetration photo without a condom. Not worth worrying about.
Fredmeyer only has one post and is obviously one of those anti-sex fanatic trolls that appear from time to time on ISG with an idiotic comment. These guys are also famous for screaming hysterically when some guy posts a penetration photo without a condom. Not worth worrying about.
David,
Idiots abound everywhere. I know BB and will tell you 1000% that he is fastidious about checking ID. All smart travelers will do that before they get a girl anywhere near their place. No pussy is worth going to jail for....
BadBear2000
11-03-08, 10:17
first of all, i am not a ****s. i love young goodlooking girls but not kids. the legal age in haiti is 18 which is strange since you see 15 and 16 year olds with babies. that is not my thing. first of all i am posting this for everyone else because i really don't give a rat's ass what you think. all girls i have sex with or take nude pics of are 18 and older so put your mr avenger attitude back in your head and come to haiti and have some fun. where we live they just don't make them like this.
have a nice day
first of all, i am not a ****s. i love young goodlooking girls but not kids. the legal age in haiti is 18 which is strange since you see 15 and 16 year olds with babies. that is not my thing. first of all i am posting this for everyone else because i really don't give a rat's ass what you think. all girls i have sex with or take nude pics of are 18 and older so put your mr avenger attitude back in your head and come to haiti and have some fun. where we live they just don't make them like this.
have a nice day
yes!!!
way to go badbear2000!
just ignore the idiot and let's have some fun. go ahead and unload the camera!!! hahaha!!!
Gentleman Travel
11-04-08, 15:47
The legal age in Haiti is 18 which is strange since you see 15 and 16 year olds with babies.
Yeah, that is weird. Haiti has one of the highest
age of consent rules in the world.
I wonder if that is a relatively recent anti-aids measure?
It certainly is not very realistic for a tropical nation (or anywhere really).
I wonder how many 18 year old virgins there are?
Yeah, that is weird. Haiti has one of the highest
age of consent rules in the world.
I wonder if that is a relatively recent anti-aids measure?
It certainly is not very realistic for a tropical nation (or anywhere really).
I wonder how many 18 year old virgins there are?
Age of consent in Haiti and the DR is 18. Yes, some countries are as low as 12 but that doesn't mean a 40 year old man can fuck a 12 year old girl. They are made typically to prevent child molestation charges among teens. Many times a limit as to age difference is placed on this as like, 5 years. In other words, if a 12 yr old has sex with a 16 year old, that is acceptable. Also, the AOC also has other stipulations pertaining to if that person is their guardian, or coercion into prostitution, etc.
The bottom line is you should never even think about having sex with anyone under 18. If you do, get some help. Also, you should always INSIST on ID (even if you have to prove it to no one other than yourself) and check it diligently to make sure its valid BEFORE you get to where you are going.
There's alot of fish in the sea. Leave the minnows alone.
Remember the old saying. "15 will get you 20" (ie fucking a 15 year old will get you 20 years in jail)
BadBear2000,
Will you be in Pap around Xmas / New Year?
great pics!
Tavares
Hey Guys!
Let's not allow an idiot to kill this beautiful forum.
Come on BadBear2000, BootyLover, La Isla, Cunning linguist, Global Nomadrr, and all the rest of us. Let's post some reports and pictures.
Peace!
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to introduce myself. I am so happy that I found this forum and enjoy the input from the posts so far.
I am a 22 year old realtor living in Miami Beach and I frequently visit Haiti and I am full of info when it comes to Haiti.
First I would like to mention I am surprised no one recommended Du Ce Jour Hotel in Petionville. (near place St. Pierre) I don't remember the street name but it is off Rue Oge. I would say its about 3 blocks away from the church. Anyway this hotel is very girl friendly. Prices for rooms are from $45-$60 That $45 represents my good negotiation skills hahahah. The rooms are decent. But the bathrooms are very small. They also have pricing by the hour for 1000 gourdes. ($25US)
This hotel is close to all the action in Petionville, walking distance to most clubs, but a nice little walk down to Rue Pan American where Harry's, Munchies, Bakri's and other restaurants are located. You might want to take a moto.
I do have contacts for 2 reliable moto taxis if anyone is interested.
I have no contacts for Taxis at the airport.
But I must say I do not recommend newcomers taking taxis from the airport to your hotel. Pickups from the airport should be from people you know well.
I would also like to mention taking public transportation (tap taps) in the delmas area is not recommended.
Not that I am an expert, but I am pretty experienced when it comes down to getting around and what to look out for.
I must say I will be giving some of the senior members here some competition like BadBear when it comes to photos. I will start making it a habit to take some photos for you guys and those that are contemplating on visiting here.
But I must show love to you BadBear. I thought I was bad, but you def. Hold the crown.
Oh one question is it possible to have a thread dedicated to Cap Haitian? I have been making it a requirement to go up there when in Haiti. Okap is still new to me so any info would be greatly appreciated. Will be down there next month and can't wait.
Peace,
Brian
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I feel it would be helpful to post this also of a reply I sent to a member here today.
Hi XXXX,
For a first timer you must be able to speak French or Creole. December is a great time to come down the weather is great and a lot of tourist come down during this time. December is one of the high peak times in Haiti. Carnival season is the highest which occurs at the end of February.
Finding female companionship. You don't have to seek just smile and chat them up a bit. This is why I mentioned knowing the language is very important. Most will be satisfied by just being in your company and taking them out to eat.
And of course there are the pros that are available too.
The question of retirement is difficult to answer. Why I say this is everyone is different in the lifestyle they choose to live. As in any third world country you give up many things you are accustomed to here in the US. For example: generating power, your water source, and food.
It also depends on your housing choice.
Will it be a home you be building? Purchasing a home?
Renting an apartment or house?
And last Haiti is a very unique country and I say this because it also depends in what area you choose to live. Living in the capitol of port-au-prince or outside the capitol makes a huge difference.
Now I will make one example.
I can see myself in this scenario. Living in the upscale part of Port-au-Prince renting a 2 bedroom home for $800. Now most of the time in these arrangements you will be provided a inverter with batteries for your power. If you need higher energy supply you would have to invest into a generator, which are very expensive in Haiti. For meals and market I will say I spend about $300.
That included me dining out to eat frequently.
Now to me the expense that quirks me the most when in Haiti is filling up my gas tank, as I own a gasoline suv. You will find that most cars in Haiti are diesel and the preferred choice.
Gasoline is very expensive in Haiti.
But I can do without a car most of the time.
Now if you chose to live outside the capitol somewhere in a province housing is much much cheaper. The food expense also goes down.
I myself prefer staying in the province. As in these areas everyone knows each other. You will find petty crime that takes place (like people stealing chickens or goats) And a much more quiet and peaceful environment.
I hope this helps in making your assessment.
Best Regards,
Brian
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Cunning Linguist
11-16-08, 12:13
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to introduce myself. I am so happy that I found this forum and enjoy the input from the posts so far.
I am a 22 year old realtor living in Miami Beach and I frequently visit Haiti and I am full of info when it comes to Haiti.
First I would like to mention I am surprised no one recommended Du Ce Jour Hotel in Petionville. (near place St. Pierre) I don't remember the street name but it is off Rue Oge. I would say its about 3 blocks away from the church. Anyway this hotel is very girl friendly. Prices for rooms are from $45-$60 That $45 represents my good negotiation skills hahahah. The rooms are decent. But the bathrooms are very small. They also have pricing by the hour for 1000 gourdes. ($25US)
This hotel is close to all the action in Petionville, walking distance to most clubs, but a nice little walk down to Rue Pan American where Harry's, Munchies, Bakri's and other restaurants are located. You might want to take a moto.
I do have contacts for 2 reliable moto taxis if anyone is interested.
I have no contacts for Taxis at the airport.
But I must say I do not recommend newcomers taking taxis from the airport to your hotel. Pickups from the airport should be from people you know well.
I would also like to mention taking public transportation (tap taps) in the delmas area is not recommended.
Not that I am an expert, but I am pretty experienced when it comes down to getting around and what to look out for.
I must say I will be giving some of the senior members here some competition like BadBear when it comes to photos. I will start making it a habit to take some photos for you guys and those that are contemplating on visiting here.
But I must show love to you BadBear. I thought I was bad, but you def. Hold the crown.
Oh one question is it possible to have a thread dedicated to Cap Haitian? I have been making it a requirement to go up there when in Haiti. Okap is still new to me so any info would be greatly appreciated. Will be down there next month and can't wait.
Peace,
Brian
Hi Brian,
Great report but your report and BadBear's have only made me more curious. How did you go about meeting girls? Is it like in Pattaya or the Philippines or even Sosúa? That is, you hang out in bars and you pick up girls or is it that you just walk up to a girl that strikes your fancy on the street near your hotel, shoot the bull, make an interesting proposal, and take her to your hotel? (That seems to be how it works in Africa)
Is the Rue Pan Américain the centre of action like Calle Pedro Clisante is in Sosúa?
Finally, how is security? What do you know about creepy cabbies at airports?
I also think highly of Bad Bear and look forward to more of his contributions and advice.
Finally, is it hard to get to Cap Haitien? Is it safe? Is it that fantastic? Why?
Mwen renmen Ayiti anpil ek ayisyèn yo
Creepy cabbies hahaha that's a good one. But on a serious note in '06 I remember the reports of taxi drivers leaking info to criminals of tourists that looked to be wealthy and give out where they were staying.
When it comes to security in Haiti I agree with the other posts I have read here. Just follow the basics and it is best not to be wondering around alone in Port-au-Prince. At least have someone you know be with you when getting around town.
I like Cap Haitien for its beaches and scenery. I frequent Comier Plage when ever I get the chance and take a trip to Milot which is 20 min. ride (public transportation $20 Haitian Dollars) outside the center of Cap Haitien. I go to Milot for the horseback riding and you will find the Citadelle, which is a fortress on a mountain top.
I also like the fact that there is electricity about 18hrs everyday there.
Security wise, no problems there even though it is pretty much the second capitol of Haiti..... I find the people there to be very respectful and friendly.
What I dislike about the ville(center of town) of Cap Haitien is that you will find trash everywhere on the streets and in some areas it is pretty dusty.
Which is a shame because the locals tell me it use to be the cleanest and most organized town in all of Haiti.
As for the the nightlife there, my best experience was in February I passed Carnival up there and it was an open party in the streets for a couple of days.
I hope to pick up some tips from the members here about the night life there.
I plan to pass carnival season next year in Jacmel, which I hear is a blast also.
Hi Brian,
Great report but your report and BadBear's have only made me more curious. How did you go about meeting girls? Is it like in Pattaya or the Philippines or even Sosúa? That is, you hang out in bars and you pick up girls or is it that you just walk up to a girl that strikes your fancy on the street near your hotel, shoot the bull, make an interesting proposal, and take her to your hotel? (That seems to be how it works in Africa)
Is the Rue Pan Américain the centre of action like Calle Pedro Clisante is in Sosúa?
Finally, how is security? What do you know about creepy cabbies at airports?
I also think highly of Bad Bear and look forward to more of his contributions and advice.
Finally, is it hard to get to Cap Haitien? Is it safe? Is it that fantastic? Why?
Mwen renmen Ayiti anpil ek ayisyèn yo
BadBear2000
11-18-08, 05:29
I use to go to the Du Ce Jour Hotel but Bob, the owner, has gone crazy with the prices. He thinks he has an El Ranchos or Montana with his new prices. We are working on something. The Villa Imperial is good because the local girls as well as others pass by at different times of the day or night with hopes they will be snagged by some horny foreigner. The night before my last night I was there, I looked down on the street below and saw 2 honeys passing by. I just said Hello and they asked me where my wife was and I assured them I was alone. I asked them to come up. The security guy stopped them at the gate. I told him to let them come and he asked me if I wanted one or both. Well, one was very nice and I realized I was too tired to take on two so I invited one up. Very nice. I bought her dinner and she worked me over very well. She never asked for $$$. She stayed until I came back the next night. She worked me over again and ate another nice meal. The next morning she left and I gave her a few bucks to eat with and catch a motor cycle. She gave me a kiss and told me to call her when I returned. I will post some pics tomorrow night.
And yes, you do just see a girl on the street or anywhere and you ask her her name. Does she have a phone. Get her number and give her yours. She may not go with you right then but I assure you she will call you in a little while. If not, you call her. Believe me, you do not have to go to a bar or club to get laid in Haiti.
Hi Brian,
Great report but your report and BadBear's have only made me more curious. How did you go about meeting girls? Is it like in Pattaya or the Philippines or even Sosúa? That is, you hang out in bars and you pick up girls or is it that you just walk up to a girl that strikes your fancy on the street near your hotel, shoot the bull, make an interesting proposal, and take her to your hotel? (That seems to be how it works in Africa)
Is the Rue Pan Américain the centre of action like Calle Pedro Clisante is in Sosúa?
Finally, how is security? What do you know about creepy cabbies at airports?
I also think highly of Bad Bear and look forward to more of his contributions and advice.
Finally, is it hard to get to Cap Haitien? Is it safe? Is it that fantastic? Why?
Mwen renmen Ayiti anpil ek ayisyèn yo
Hi BadBear2000!!!
It was about time we hear from you. It's good to know you are having a great time in PAP. I can hardly wait for the pictures.
I am sure everyone is waiting for your great reports! Thanks in advance!!!
Peace!!!
Creepy cabbies hahaha that's a good one. But on a serious note in '06 I remember the reports of taxi drivers leaking info to criminals of tourists that looked to be wealthy and give out where they were staying.
When it comes to security in Haiti I agree with the other posts I have read here. Just follow the basics and it is best not to be wondering around alone in Port-au-Prince. At least have someone you know be with you when getting around town.
I like Cap Haitien for its beaches and scenery. I frequent Comier Plage when ever I get the chance and take a trip to Milot which is 20 min. ride (public transportation $20 Haitian Dollars) outside the center of Cap Haitien. I go to Milot for the horseback riding and you will find the Citadelle, which is a fortress on a mountain top.
I also like the fact that there is electricity about 18hrs everyday there.
Security wise, no problems there even though it is pretty much the second capitol of Haiti..... I find the people there to be very respectful and friendly.
What I dislike about the ville(center of town) of Cap Haitien is that you will find trash everywhere on the streets and in some areas it is pretty dusty.
Which is a shame because the locals tell me it use to be the cleanest and most organized town in all of Haiti.
As for the the nightlife there, my best experience was in February I passed Carnival up there and it was an open party in the streets for a couple of days.
I hope to pick up some tips from the members here about the night life there.
I plan to pass carnival season next year in Jacmel, which I hear is a blast also.
Hi Brian!
How do you travel from PAP to Cape-Haitian? How long does it take. What are the road conditions if you travel by bus? How long does it take. Is it safe?
What is a good, safe, mid-range hotel to stay in Cape-Haitian? Thanks for the info.
Peace!!!
Villa Imperial.......is that in Petionville?
Or are you referring to a hotel in Delmas?
Because I think I saw signs for a Villa Imperial in the Delmas area..... if so what are the rates?
pap to cap haitien. i choose to fly. last time i flew on tropical airways for $140 round trip. there's also tortug'air airways. (a 20min ride)
the bus ride to cap haitien is not for me! not only because of the rough ride, but also these drivers take too many chances with peoples lives. at high speeds even in the mountains with no guard rails. that's a no no for me. by the way the bus ride is a 5 hour trip.
if traveling by private car, the road condition is ok until you pass the st. marc area.
i have not stayed at a hotel in cap haitien yet. i have eaten at the hotel restaurant of auberge au picolet. food there is really good. i have been to hotel christophe, which seems ok. its also in the center of town. the mont joli hotel seems to be the most enjoyable, has a pool and its up on a hill with a really nice view. again i have not stayed in any of these hotels just my opinion from what i saw.
i will be there next week so i'll do some homework on the hotels there.
hi brian!
how do you travel from pap to cape-haitian? how long does it take. what are the road conditions if you travel by bus? how long does it take. is it safe?
what is a good, safe, mid-range hotel to stay in cape-haitian? thanks for the info.
peace!!!
BadBear2000
11-23-08, 16:09
the road to gonaive is under water therefore they have routed a temporary road and it is rough as hell. it is true about the buses. they are crazy and usually packed like sardines. flying is the best choice. the hotels are like pap. over priced
pap to cap haitien. i choose to fly. last time i flew on tropical airways for $140 round trip. there's also tortug'air airways. (a 20min ride)
the bus ride to cap haitien is not for me! not only because of the rough ride, but also these drivers take too many chances with peoples lives. at high speeds even in the mountains with no guard rails. that's a no no for me. by the way the bus ride is a 5 hour trip.
if traveling by private car, the road condition is ok until you pass the st. marc area.
i have not stayed at a hotel in cap haitien yet. i have eaten at the hotel restaurant of auberge au picolet. food there is really good. i have been to hotel christophe, which seems ok. its also in the center of town. the mont joli hotel seems to be the most enjoyable, has a pool and its up on a hill with a really nice view. again i have not stayed in any of these hotels just my opinion from what i saw.
i will be there next week so i'll do some homework on the hotels there.
BadBear2000
11-23-08, 16:11
It is on Delmas 42. There is a hugh lit sign on Delmas. A great place to go fishing. Also, they do have large nice rooms for $65 but I prefer to spend my money on the fishing rather than the boat so I go for the $44.
Villa Imperial.......is that in Petionville?
Or are you referring to a hotel in Delmas?
Because I think I saw signs for a Villa Imperial in the Delmas area..... if so what are the rates?
pap to cap haitien. i choose to fly. last time i flew on tropical airways for $140 round trip. there's also tortug'air airways. (a 20min ride)
the bus ride to cap haitien is not for me! not only because of the rough ride, but also these drivers take too many chances with peoples lives. at high speeds even in the mountains with no guard rails. that's a no no for me. by the way the bus ride is a 5 hour trip.
if traveling by private car, the road condition is ok until you pass the st. marc area.
i have not stayed at a hotel in cap haitien yet. i have eaten at the hotel restaurant of auberge au picolet. food there is really good. i have been to hotel christophe, which seems ok. its also in the center of town. the mont joli hotel seems to be the most enjoyable, has a pool and its up on a hill with a really nice view. again i have not stayed in any of these hotels just my opinion from what i saw.
i will be there next week so i'll do some homework on the hotels there.
hi brian!
thanks for the info. very good. when you get there next week, get all the info you can and share them with us. i am a little nervous about pap, but i know this is probably the best place for fishing in haiti. i went to cap-haitien 24 years ago. i know for sure it's very different now from what i saw then.
peace!!!
I just read a long article about this. I had no idea.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=27756&Cr=minustah&Cr1=kidnap
Forbes magazine has named Haiti one of the world’s 10 most dangerous destinations, along with Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia. The Associated Press has called Port-au-Prince the kidnapping capital of the Americas. The U.S. government maintains a perpetual travel warning on Haiti, while diplomats, journalists and aid workers spend much of their time holed up in fortified hotels.
BadBear2000
11-24-08, 05:34
I went into the horrible Cite Soleil where just months ago, people were afraid to wander into. The streets have been all repaired and are actually the best in the Port-au-Prince area. Myself and a visiting friend from this sight ventured into the infamous Cite Soleil on the back of a pickup taking pics. We never had any fear and nobody apposed our being there. Let's face it, if the news is not bad, the news media does not want to hear about it. And many fools believe all the BS coming out of Haiti. I feel much safer there than in areas of Memphis, St Louis, Miami, Atlanta, etc. So please, if you do not want to go, do not spread propaganda that you hear from people that have no idea what Haiti is about
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=27756&Cr=minustah&Cr1=kidnap
Forbes magazine has named Haiti one of the world’s 10 most dangerous destinations, along with Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia. The Associated Press has called Port-au-Prince the kidnapping capital of the Americas. The U.S. government maintains a perpetual travel warning on Haiti, while diplomats, journalists and aid workers spend much of their time holed up in fortified hotels.
BadBear2000
11-24-08, 05:44
This is for you old guys that like beautiful, hot, black girls that really do not care about your age. They just want to ride your horsey. It is true that money talks but I have had girl friends there that were not just looking for the dollar. I helped a girl get a job with the U.N. You think that after she got the job and did not need my money she forgot about me. She still wants to marry me. Then there is the Virgin whose family sends her and the rest of the family money every month. She has never asked me for a dollar. When I travel, I usually bring her back gifts which she like any woman appreciates. Then the little girl Juliette who I actually tried to give a friend from this sight but she wanted no part of it unless the guy is just trying to make this old fart feel good about himself. I dated a girl that worked at one of the major hotels. She is a model in Paris, France now. She calls me several times a month wanting me to come visit her. Now, I would like to think that I am just a stud with a 12 inch pecker or a tongue that I can lick my eyebrow with but I looked in the mirror the other day and I did not see this. I also looked in my wallet and realized if was empty so it is not always about the money. I just show them a little kindness and try like hell to make them happy in bed. Most Haitians don't east nookie so we already have the advantage. Well, i guess I will lick the tears from my eye lashes as I think about how I wish I was already back in the land of Hot Women.
Have a nice day, THE BEAR
Well I know I am not a Senior member here and my opinion may not have much weight here, but at first I thought you had good intention in your post but I see you have another intention here, not an innocent warning.
I noticed at the end of your statement you say "The U. S. Government maintains a perpetual travel warning on Haiti, while diplomats, journalists and aid workers spend much of their time holed up in fortified hotels. "
Holed up in fortified hotels. Not true. I see missionaries, aid workers, and journalists wondering all over the place with ease and no hassle.
I haven't come a across a fortified hotel either.
The media seems to be focused only on the negatives that come out of this country. You will never see that for Jamaica. Too many foreign interest there and Jamaica has the highest murder rate in the Caribbean.
Yes there is a warning for Haiti and can be view here.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_917.html
To this date things are calm since those food riots in April.
Pay attention to the Crime section found here.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1134.html
Here it states the areas to avoid in Port-au-Prince:
Certain high-crime zones in the Port-au-Prince area should be avoided, including Croix-des-Bouquets, Carrefour, Martissant, the port road (Boulevard La Saline), urban route Nationale #1, the airport road (Boulevard Toussaint L'Ouverture) and its adjoining connectors to the New ("American") Road via Route Nationale #1 (which should also be avoided). This latter area in particular has been the scene of numerous robberies, carjackings, and murders.
Jags. This is what this forum is for. So we can communicate and relate accurate information and ideas. Not one sided information found in the media today. I would have given you more credit if I saw you give out warnings on other parts of this forum like:
Jamaica
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1147.html
Kenya
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_923.html
Colombia
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_941.html
Philippines
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_2190.html
I would suggest people to make there own assessment from people who actually visit or live in Haiti and not from articles found on the net.
I have visited Cite Soleil also and I said the same things to myself. How strange it is that the worst neighborhood of all of Haiti and the whole area is completely paved with canals.
The area by the water though has to be the most horrible site I've seen in my life.
I know it is a hard to accept the idea that Haiti is no more dangerous than the cities BadBear mentioned and I feel the same way while I am in Haiti.
I am not being in denial that the potential risks exist, but Don't you notice the media only focuses on Port-au-Prince. What about the other areas in Haiti? Well I can tell you. It is much better than what you can ever imagine.
If you are still worried about traveling to Haiti Port-au-Prince is not the only option. You can have an even better experience in the provinces like Jacmel or Les Cayes (Aux Cayes by the locals). I actually would recommend going out to these provinces and be prepared to be amazed.
I went into the horrible Cite Soleil where just months ago, people were afraid to wander into. The streets have been all repaired and are actually the best in the Port-au-Prince area. Myself and a visiting friend from this sight ventured into the infamous Cite Soleil on the back of a pickup taking pics. We never had any fear and nobody apposed our being there. Let's face it, if the news is not bad, the news media does not want to hear about it. And many fools believe all the BS coming out of Haiti. I feel much safer there than in areas of Memphis, St Louis, Miami, Atlanta, etc. So please, if you do not want to go, do not spread propaganda that you hear from people that have no idea what Haiti is about
BadBear2000
11-24-08, 17:09
Don't get me wrong. There are certain places that I would not travel during the night hours. But no more than places in cities right here in the good old USA. Brian is right, you would be amazed out the other locations. Jacmel is beautiful. I use to take my German Sheppard dog to the beach with either a Dominican or Haitian Girl. We would ride an air mattress on surfs that a surfer would be envious of and have sex in the water. The only problem I ever had was the sand getting in my bathing suit. I will be managing a plantation in St Michele of the north. This last trip I had to pass through Gonaive and was totally devastated at the sight of the homes and vehicles that were still buried under mud caused during the hurricanes. With all this horror, the Haitian people as a whole are still very humble.
I have visited Cite Soleil also and I said the same things to myself. How strange it is that the worst neighborhood of all of Haiti and the whole area is completely paved with canals.
The area by the water though has to be the most horrible site I've seen in my life.
I know it is a hard to accept the idea that Haiti is no more dangerous than the cities BadBear mentioned and I feel the same way while I am in Haiti.
I am not being in denial that the potential risks exist, but Don't you notice the media only focuses on Port-au-Prince. What about the other areas in Haiti? Well I can tell you. It is much better than what you can ever imagine.
If you are still worried about traveling to Haiti Port-au-Prince is not the only option. You can have an even better experience in the provinces like Jacmel or Les Cayes (Aux Cayes by the locals). I actually would recommend going out to these provinces and be prepared to be amazed.
Global Nomadrr
11-24-08, 22:57
Reading the last few posts, and to chime in: yes, most areas outside of PaP are safer than PaP itself, and certainly prettier. I'm one of those 'official' types living here under 'fortified' conditions--all i can say is, and this is true for USG travel warnings everywhere, they are exagerated...I go out plenty, but i know my way around. I still wouldn't run around Cite Soleil, even if BBear did it, because i do know shit that goes down there that you guys dont. The worse 'security' problem you could have, in my estimation, is riding any of the local buses around the country. They just drive like idiots and the accident rate is terrible--it's the one counsel I'd put to the group. Of course, it's fucking great that Forbes and others will just stay away from Haiti and types of tourists it caters to..to hell with them.
Cunning Linguist
11-25-08, 00:48
Reading the last few posts, and to chime in: yes, most areas outside of PaP are safer than PaP itself, and certainly prettier. I'm one of those 'official' types living here under 'fortified' conditions--all i can say is, and this is true for USG travel warnings everywhere, they are exagerated...I go out plenty, but i know my way around. I still wouldn't run around Cite Soleil, even if BBear did it, because i do know shit that goes down there that you guys dont. The worse 'security' problem you could have, in my estimation, is riding any of the local buses around the country. They just drive like idiots and the accident rate is terrible--it's the one counsel I'd put to the group. Of course, it's fucking great that Forbes and others will just stay away from Haiti and types of tourists it caters to..to hell with them.
I have travelled the world over and some of the countries have been quite dicey but as long as there is no actual war going on (e.g. Iraq) or a complete breakdown of the state (e.g. Somalia), my experience tells me that travel is doable just about anywhere provided that necessary precautions are taken and one's own street smarts kick in. However, I am very much daunted by the trip between the airport and the hotel (e.g. Hotel Villa Imperial), especially when the airport road is mentioned as a place to avoid. I know once I make it to the hotel, I would be able to take stock of how to get around by asking the hotel staff and locals. Thus, how to find reliable, trustworthy transportation to and from the airport is my main concern.
My thanks goes out to Bad Bear and others for any information they have give or will give.
Robert Downey Jr
11-25-08, 18:50
Upon our arrival, my wingman and I were immediately warned about staying away from certain areas and going out at night because of fear of being robbed, kidnapped, or even killed.
We met several expats there and almost every one of them had a story about being kidnapped! I’ll admit there were several times I was afraid we might be kidnapped, even though we were never alone. You are simply vulnerable when you go out, even with a guard. The security in Haiti is lax. A gang can kidnap you whenever they please. Just because we made it back to the hotel doesn’t mean it is a safe place to visit.
My advice to anyone planning a visit, listen to the warnings! Renting a car, hiring a personal driver, guard, translator, and guide were just a few of the necessities needed while there. When you add up the necessities with the mediocre accommodations, people staring (tourist are rare), beggars, the Creole language, object poverty, etc, it turns out to be an uncomfortable place to stay at.
So why did we end up staying for a week, for a dose of reality. I witnessed what true poverty is. It taught me how fortunate I really am in life. For that reason I recommend a trip to Haiti, but when it is a safe place to visit.
If you want to know what Haitian girls taste like, there are plenty of them in the DR that can be had without the risk that comes from a trip to Haiti.
Happy mongering,
Robert Downey Jr.
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Cunning Linguist
11-26-08, 00:34
Upon our arrival, my wingman and I were immediately warned about staying away from certain areas and going out at night because of fear of being robbed, kidnapped, or even killed.
We met several expats there and almost every one of them had a story about being kidnapped! I’ll admit there were several times I was afraid we might be kidnapped, even though we were never alone. You are simply vulnerable when you go out, even with a guard. The security in Haiti is lax. A gang can kidnap you whenever they please. Just because we made it back to the hotel doesn’t mean it is a safe place to visit.
My advice to anyone planning a visit, listen to the warnings! Renting a car, hiring a personal driver, guard, translator, and guide were just a few of the necessities needed while there. When you add up the necessities with the mediocre accommodations, people staring (tourist are rare), beggars, the Creole language, object poverty, etc, it turns out to be an uncomfortable place to stay at.
So why did we end up staying for a week, for a dose of reality. I witnessed what true poverty is. It taught me how fortunate I really am in life. For that reason I recommend a trip to Haiti, but when it is a safe place to visit.
If you want to know what Haitian girls taste like, there are plenty of them in the DR that can be had without the risk that comes from a trip to Haiti.
Happy mongering,
Robert Downey Jr.
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One's reality can be very positive while the very same thing can be very negative for somebody else.
First of all, I repeat that Haiti is probably good enough to take a bet on although I have never been there. I have been to the Dominican Republic a couple of times and I imagine that while the Haitians are the same racially, living there has changed them. They are not exactly Dominicans but neither are they exactly Haitians.
I also fail to see why the Krèyol language is such a "problem". It is certainly easier than Spanish grammatically and is easy to learn. As for the other things: abject poverty, overpriced hotels, people staring at you, hiring a driver, etc., that is nothing that I have not ever dealt with in my travels in the Philippines, Cambodia, China, and parts of Africa.
Bad Bear wrote earlier: "call me and let me know what flight you are coming and I will intoduce you to Haiti. We are getting ready to set up a sight just for you new comers to Haiti. There are hungry girls out there needing to be fed in every hole." I definitely plan on taking him at his word when I go in the summer.
Peace.
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