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Nibu,
how about the elections in Bolivia. I hear that socialist Morales has won them. He seems very ANTI-USA and PRO coca farmers.
I also know that anti-american sentiments are gaining field every day. And not only in Bolivia. Also in Brasil anti-US statements are being heard more and more.
The US embassador called upon the bolivian people NOT to choose for Morales.....well....I think that is the choice of the Bolovians and NOT for the US embassador to decide!!
Keep us posted....
Johan.
Nibu,
right now the colombianitas are (for me personal) far more attractive then the Bolivian women. Allthough I must say that their arrogance and snobbish attitude seems to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off like hell:-(
But if you check this site out there are TONS of sex ads!!!(in Bolivia)
http://www.virtualisimo.com/clasificados/consulta.cfm?pagina=1&grupo=1&indice=1&Ccategoria=varios
Maybe some day......
Johan.
Sorry guys...did forget something!
here is an escortsite in Bolivia. Check it out!!
http://www.claudita8.wo.to/
Johan.
For information to those interested:
You can by Viagra and generics over the counter at any pharmacy in Bolivia without a script.
50Bs (8$) for each 50mg caplet for the brand name.
Tictoc
With regard to you information pertaining to Vigra, you mention that 50mg tablets are available without prescription. I have also come across information that 100mg tablets are also available. Now I am curious as to what should be the appropriate dosage to purchase - do you have any ideas on this?
Uranus,
When I posted that 50MG are available that is because I had actually purchased that size. As you said, 100MG are available as well as the knock offs or generics. All without perscription.
As for what to use.... that is another discussion entirely. For me, as I use it "recreationally", 1/2 of a 50 is great. Many others use more (1/2 of 100).
See the discussion in another section of the forum specifically aimed at vitamin V and its uses.
Turbolover
07-09-03, 11:19
Is ANYTHING happening in Bolivia? Johan thank you for posting the site, but damn this country can't be as dead as this forum.
Is this country(perhaps just La Paz) even worth crossing Lake Titicaca(love to hear myself say it) to go see?
Come on guys!
If there is any sign of life in Bolivia besides a strip bar and a website and viagra, lets hear it!
Turbolover
07-11-03, 08:18
Master Nibu,
Thank you for reffring me to the Nibu archives. What a great contribution to the forum!
You have me interested inTrinidad Bolivia, chicas and jungle are both pretty right?
How much would a plane cost to get down there from La Paz, I know these questions may catch you working on the problem as I am writing this.
Also, What are your favorite mogering sites among the following of these cities or regions: Brazil-all cities, Buenos Aires, Lima, Cusco, La Paz, San Jose-Costa Rica, Guatamala City, Antigua-Guatamala
Thanks for getting back and posting a response to my other question!
Here is an article on what's going on in Bolivia right now. I can't believe 65 people have died due to a proposed plan to send gas to the US and Mexico. Many foreign nationals have been flown out of the country by their respective airlines. Hopefully, with the ouster of the former president, things are going to calm down a bit for those planning to go to Bolivia.
Mesa Takes Charge of Embattled Bolivia
By KEVIN GRAY, Associated Press Writer
LA PAZ, Bolivia - Vice President Carlos Mesa took office as Bolivia's new president late Friday, hours after his predecessor was forced out by weeks of bloody street protests set off by a plan to export natural gas to the United States.
Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada stepped down when he lost the support of his last key ally and his beleaguered government collapsed, sparking widespread celebrations in the streets.
Congress, in emergency session, accepted the 73-year-old leader's resignation and quickly named Mesa to the top post. As vice president, Mesa was next in the line of succession.
Wearing the red, yellow and green presidential sash, Mesa addressed lawmakers, calling for unity for solve the country's worst crisis since Bolivia returned to democracy in 1981.
"I'm taking office at a crucial time in Bolivia's history. ... My first obligation is to listen to what the thousands of people have said during the last few weeks," he said, referring to the demonstrators who have marched throughout the country since late September. More than 65 people were killed in rioting.
Mesa, a former television reporter and a respected historian, is a political independent and it wasn't immediately clear how much political support he will have. It also wasn't known how long he will serve. The elected term was until 2007.
"Our destiny is at stake. I urge you all to help me," he told lawmakers.
As word of the resignation spread, thousands swarmed La Paz streets and avenues. Explosions boomed over the old Spanish colonial buildings as miners in hard hats lit sticks of dynamite, amid cheering by students, peasants, laborers and other opponents of Sanchez de Lozada.
"He's gone! He's gone," Indian women in bowler hats chanted alongside men and children.
Sanchez de Lozada complained in his two-page letter that letter to Congress that his resignation was forced and unfair.
"I do this unwillingly," he said, warning that Bolivian democracy was undergoing a "crucial hour," tested by the intense pressure by laborers, unions and other groups.
Several spectators in the gallery and lawmakers shouted "Goni! Assassin" using the president's nickname during the session, in reference to as many as 65 deaths reported by human rights groups from days of rioting.
The president's resignation came after thousands of Bolivians marched through La Paz for a fifth straight day Friday, demanding Sanchez de Lozada step down 14 months into his second term. Columns of students, Indians and miners brandishing sticks of dynamite threaded past street barricades, shouting, "We will not stop until he's gone!"
On a day when pandemonium ruled the La Paz streets, military planes airlifted hundreds of stranded foreigners from Bolivia's capital.
The U.S. military dispatched an assessment team to Bolivia on Friday to determine if plans need to be updated for protecting or evacuating the American embassy, a military spokesman said.
The team of fewer than six military experts will assess the situation on Bolivia's streets and recommend possible changes to the embassy's evacuation and protection plans, said Army Lt. Col. Bill Costello, a spokesman for U.S. Southern Command.
On Thursday, the U.S. State Department warned Americans to defer travel to Bolivia.
The popular outrage against the president was sparked by a controversial proposal to export gas to the United States and Mexico through neighboring Chile.
The proposal tapped deep discord with Bolivia's decade-old free-market experiment, which has failed to narrow the enormous gap between rich and poor in this impoverished country.
The proposal also underscored spreading popular distrust with his administration's U.S.-backed anti-coca growing policies, which have deprived thousands of poor Indian farmers of their livelihood and plunged the president's popularity ratings into the single-digits.
Sanchez de Lozada temporarily suspended the gas export plan last week in the face of riots, which human rights groups said claimed more than 65 lives. But the demonstrations for his resignation continued as many people objected to the government's heavy-handed response to the protests.
Late Wednesday, the president sought to defuse the growing crisis with a nationally televised address in which he offered to hold a national referendum vote over the plan. But opponents rejected that offer.
In defending the gas export plan, the president called the gas resources "a gift from God" that would bring millions of dollars annually to a cash-strapped Andean country. But few here believe his claims that average Bolivians, many of whom earn only a few dollars a day, would benefit.
Bolivia, which declared its independence from Spain in 1825, is a majority indigenous country where many speak Spanish haltingly. The country yielded its vast mineral wealth to its colonial rulers — and many see the gas-export project as a return to that legacy.
Opponents also object to the use of Chile, a longtime rival, to export the fuel and argued the $5 billion project would only benefit wealthy elites.
The president suffered a final blow Friday when Manfred Reyes Villa, a key presidential supporter in Congress, said he was quitting the government.
"I've come to tell him: 'No more,'" Reyes Villa said. "The people don't believe in this government anymore and there is no other option but for him to resign."
On Thursday, presidential spokesman Mauricio Antezana also resigned.
Reyes Villa's departure left the president isolated as he sought to defuse the crisis in this Andean nation of 8.8 million people — South America's poorest.
A U.S.-educated millionaire, Sanchez de Lozada was president from 1993 to 1997. He took office for a second term in August 2002 after narrowly defeating Evo Morales, a radical congressman.
Early Friday, a Brazilian air force plane flew 105 people out of Bolivia. Brazilian officials said 53 of those people were Brazilian tourists trapped in La Paz after all commercial flights in and out of the nearby El Alto international airport were halted last weekend.
Admin,
Add Cochabamba, Plenty of action going on here if you look in any clubs.
I will be arriving in Santa Cruz, Bolivia, on August 4. I will be there for at least a week. I'd like to stay at a nice hotel that is chica friendly and has a safe and possibly someone at the front desk who speaks some English. The $50 per night range is great.
Also, I am considering renting a car for the week. Is that a good idea in your opinion?
I have never posted here before because my last computer had a lot of problems with registering here. I have posted a lot on *******.com, and I have mongered in over 60 different countries.
If any of you would like to get together, the first drink is on me!
K11
Hello you all!
I have a question regarding entry visa from Peru to Bolivia, from Bolivia to Brasil, from Peru to Ecuador, Colombia and Venezuela.
If possible I would like information on the price of each border crossing.
This is for overland travel! Would I get visa on arrival?
Thanks for any help!
From Peru to Bolivia is straightforward. Assuming you are from a developed country, you will get a 30 day entry stamp upon crossing the border. This can be extended to 90 days for free in La Paz in half a day.
Oldian,
Thanks a lot for the information!
From Peru to Bolivia is straightforward. Assuming you are from a developed country, you will get a 30 day entry stamp upon crossing the border. This can be extended to 90 days for free in La Paz in half a day.
Luis The Great
02-07-06, 05:08
Hey guys I though this might be of interest. Coca leaves known as a natural Viagra?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1585586&page=2COCA
Coca: FOR SOFT DRINKS, TOOTHPASTE, NATURAL VIAGRA
Member #1082
06-07-06, 10:09
I will be arriving in Santa Cruz, Bolivia, on August 4. I will be there for at least a week. I'd like to stay at a nice hotel that is chica friendly and has a safe and possibly someone at the front desk who speaks some English. The $50 per night range is great.
Also, I am considering renting a car for the week. Is that a good idea in your opinion?
I have never posted here before because my last computer had a lot of problems with registering here. I have posted a lot on *******.com, and I have mongered in over 60 different countries.
If any of you would like to get together, the first drink is on me!
K11You want to go to a small place called 'Residencial Sands'. It is perfect. Tell Don Pepe that Steve sent you. He lived in the U.S,, speaks great english and will help you hook up with all the chicas you want. It has a small pol and if you are hookinig up on your own, it is a good line to invite girls back for a swim.
You want to go to a small place called 'Residencial Sands'. It is perfect. Tell Don Pepe that Steve sent you. He lived in the U.S,, speaks great english and will help you hook up with all the chicas you want. It has a small pol and if you are hookinig up on your own, it is a good line to invite girls back for a swim.Do you have a telephone for this hotel? Is the name "Arenas Residenciales"... Do you remember where in the city it is located? I'm from Santa Cruz (live in the US now; migrated 20+ yrs ago) and after several yrs I'll be staying there for a couple of nights on my way to Sucre to visit family.
Subaculture
01-02-07, 15:03
LA PAZ, Bolivia - The government of President Evo Morales approved a decree Monday (Jan 1st 2007) requiring U.S. citizens to obtain visas to enter Bolivia. Morales said the decree "a matter of reciprocity." The U.S. government requires Bolivians to obtain visas to enter the United States.
Can anyone give an update regarding the political situation in Bolivia? Lately I've been hearing a lot of crap about that.
señor Morales seems to be a real good buddy of that wacko Chavez in venezuela. And that don't look too good for the future.
Will there be a crackdown on girlie bars etc etc??
Johan
Subaculture
08-27-07, 19:14
Will there be a crackdown on girlie bars etc etc??
Johan
As like Venezuela, no real changes to that aspect of life. Those with European heritage are feeling the pressure in La Paz and the East and don't like their current leader (but they are a minority) ...but have you been in Bolivia (seen the girls).. not the most beautiful in the world :(
As like Venezuela, no real changes to that aspect of life. Those with European heritage are feeling the pressure in La Paz and the East and don't like their current leader (but they are a minority) ...but have you been in Bolivia (seen the girls).. not the most beautiful in the world :(
true most BO girls are butt ugly.
There are countries with way better looking girls...Peru..Ecuador..Colombia...and Venezuela come in mind.
cheers
Johan
Subaculture
10-25-07, 20:37
prostitutes sew lips together in bolivia protest
thu oct 25, 2007 12:24am bst
la paz (reuters) - prostitutes in the bolivian city of el alto sewed their lips together on wednesday as part of a hunger strike to demand that the mayor reopen brothels and bars ordered closed after violent protests by residents last week.
"we are fighting for the right to work and for our families' survival," lily cortez, leader of the el alto association of nighttime workers, told local television.
"tomorrow we will bury ourselves alive if we are not immediately heard. the mayor will have his conscience to answer to if there are any grave consequences, such as the death of my comrades," she said, surrounded by about 10 prostitutes who had sewn their lips together with thread.
some 30 other women were shown fasting inside a medical clinic nearby.
mayor fanor nava told local radio he would not reopen the brothels and bars closed after city residents fed up with **** drinking and crime stormed the red-light district in el alto, an impoverished city just north of la paz.
prostitution in bolivia is legal but pimping is outlawed.
student activists who want the bars and brothels permanently shut down were also on a hunger strike, along with the leaders of an association representing bars, restaurants and karaoke establishments.
"it's not only us owners and the sex workers who are affected, there are thousands of waiters, cooks, bartenders, taxi drivers and street vendors who will be without income," said ramiro orellana, spokesman for the business group.
el alto is one of the largest urban areas in bolivia, with nearly 1 million inhabitants, mostly aymara and quechua indians.
prostitutes sew lips together in bolivia protest
thu oct 25, 2007 12:24am bst
la paz (reuters) - prostitutes in the bolivian city of el alto sewed their lips together on wednesday as part of a hunger strike to demand that the mayor reopen brothels and bars ordered closed after violent protests by residents last week.
"we are fighting for the right to work and for our families' survival," lily cortez, leader of the el alto association of nighttime workers, told local television.
"tomorrow we will bury ourselves alive if we are not immediately heard. the mayor will have his conscience to answer to if there are any grave consequences, such as the death of my comrades," she said, surrounded by about 10 prostitutes who had sewn their lips together with thread.
some 30 other women were shown fasting inside a medical clinic nearby.
mayor fanor nava told local radio he would not reopen the brothels and bars closed after city residents fed up with **** drinking and crime stormed the red-light district in el alto, an impoverished city just north of la paz.
prostitution in bolivia is legal but pimping is outlawed.
student activists who want the bars and brothels permanently shut down were also on a hunger strike, along with the leaders of an association representing bars, restaurants and karaoke establishments.
"it's not only us owners and the sex workers who are affected, there are thousands of waiters, cooks, bartenders, taxi drivers and street vendors who will be without income," said ramiro orellana, spokesman for the business group.
el alto is one of the largest urban areas in bolivia, with nearly 1 million inhabitants, mostly aymara and quechua indians.
well i hope them putas don't sew their other lips together....hahahahahahah!!
cheers
johan
Sure the majority of women are of Indian ancestry, as if that's bad.
But Bolivia is the poorest South American country so there's lots of mongering for cheap. I've checked out the Bolivianas on "amigos.com" and "flicker" and they look good to me. I don't even see that many Indians, but a computer does cost money.
Bolivia looks to be untouched as evidenced by the activity on ISG.
Sure the majority of women are of Indian ancestry, as if that's bad.
But Bolivia is the poorest South American country so there's lots of mongering for cheap. I've checked out the Bolivianas on "amigos.com" and "flicker" and they look good to me. I don't even see that many Indians, but a computer does cost money.
Bolivia looks to be untouched as evidenced by the activity on ISG.Meat Loaf,
Them women you see on them sites are mostly middle or even upper class. You surely would waiste yer time and $$$ hunting them!
Personaly many Bolivianas can NOT hold the candle to average looking Colombianas, Venezuelanas, Peruvianas or even the Panamenians.
Did ye ever saw a Bolivian women older then 35? Try look for them and I promise ye will be cured;.) LOL
My 2 euro cents.
Johan
Spanish Main
06-15-08, 14:01
I am looking for somewhere to winter from October to march as, although I live in the souyth of Spain, it is still too cold for me.
Any suggestions?
Tarija looks promising as it is like Andalucia and I understand the language. I would like to rent a modest place with a pool, if possible, and a woman or two to look after me...
Perfection would be one around twenty and another around 40. Am I asking too much? Full board plus extras.
Any idea on costs?
I am looking for somewhere to winter from October to march as, although I live in the souyth of Spain, it is still too cold for me.
Any suggestions?
Tarija looks promising as it is like Andalucia and I understand the language. I would like to rent a modest place with a pool, if possible, and a woman or two to look after me...
Perfection would be one around twenty and another around 40. Am I asking too much? Full board plus extras.
Any idea on costs?Come to Santa Cruz - a paradise on earth! See my report in Santa Cruz section. Get in touch if you need some advise.
Muzungufotsy
02-22-09, 18:29
Any pics of the girls in Santa Cruz?
Look at the local newspapers at eldeber.com. Bo under "Sociales". Lot of infos of models, social events and beauty contests with pictures. Browse under Google search under "Santa Cruz+las magnificas". There are pictures of the best models of Santa Cruz. These are super beauties and in opposite of Brasil you find a lot of comparable chicas in the middle class population. Mix with Germans and Lebanese people, lot of Spanish. A lot of tall girls in SC with big boobs.
Look also under www.pablomanzoni.net. This is the Photographer of las
Magnificas.
Muzungufotsy
02-28-09, 12:31
What I would like it s real pics of real girls board members met not photoshop models you never meet.
Thanks
viagra treatment for footballers (from bbc news website)
viagra is not on the list of drugs players are banned from using
a bolivian football team's former physiotherapist says he gave players the sex drug viagra to help them play at high altitude in the main city.
rodrigo figueroa told la prensa newspaper he had prescribed viagra, which oxygenates the blood, to at least nine players in his team, blooming.
the team from santa cruz, 400m (1,300ft) above sea level, were playing at more than 3,500m in la paz.
players were unaware of what they were taking, the physiotherapist said.
he stressed that viagra was not on the list of banned drugs.
"we prescribed it for several players, especially those who suffered most from altitude," said mr figueroa.
he had, he explained, administered the product by mixing it with fruit juice.
asked about his former side's results using the product, figueroa, who is now with bolivar in la paz, replied:
"at altitude you win, you draw, you lose. the best results came when the team relied on strong tactical nous."
I just came back from Cochabamba, Bolivia (planning on going back in December) had a wonderful time, I'm still a little sore LOL, if you want good cheap action go to aroma st. Near the airport (sorry really bad with crossing streets), there are about 5 houses almost side by side with 20-40 girls in each house, 30Bs (about $4.5) per 15min. If you want better quality then check the local news papers in the classified ads, I spent too much money on those girls, and towards the end of my trip I found these houses (not in a safe area), they do have security at the door. If you go there hire a radio taxi (not your regular taxi, I heard they can be dangerous) the whole night for about 100bs (about $14), you can request for a radio taxi at your hotel.
Enjoy your trip,
Ale
Well here's the story guys. I'm a 40 year old guy who's finishing up college for the 2nd time. I've been given an opportunity, by a company interested in hiring me when I leave college, to spend up to 10 weeks in a Spanish speaking country learning to speak the language. I'm moving into petroleum production, and they have a lot of interests in South America and would like to have me understanding some Spanish when I get there.
So here's the requirements. I need to present them with a proposal as to how much a 10 week stay would cost. Of course I have secondary motives for wanting to spend an extended period in an exotic land, and so I come to you.
I need to find out why you think Columbia is the place to go to spend time with the chicas. Really what I'd like is more semi or non pro action, particularly since I'll be there a while. I'd prefer to stay in a city away from the gringo occupied areas. I am supposed to be learning Spanish remember, so if everyone speaks English, I'll not make much progress. I'd also like any input you might have on how much a small house or apartment might cost for the 10 weeks.
Really I'm interested in any insight you might think would be useful to someone in my position. Incidentally, I do speak a small amount of Spanish already. I'm a middle class, average looking, middle aged white guy, who doesn't mind leaving suburban America to live in less the US standard accommodations.
I hope Jackson doesn't mind, but I'm thinking of posting this in quite a few different forums to get responses from each, but feel free to offer advice on any other countries you might think appropriate as well.
Hopefully come June of next year I'll be running a blog on how things are going, and chasing as much tail as I was during my fist stint in college. In the meantime, I hope to hear from all of you as to where I should spend my 10 week mid life crisis.
Oh. And learn Spanish too. Really.
Am about to go to Bolivia next month. How is it?? Are the women good looking?? Easy to meet regular girls at the discotecha or parks and ect.?? Do they have good strip clubs?? I speak spanish so that is not a problem. Just dont want to go if people are unfriendly.
Illini333,
If you decide to travel to Bolivia I highly recommend Santa Cruz over La Paz. I was there for only one night, plane was delayed out of La Paz and had to stay in Santa Cruz until a morning flight. We did not get to venture out due it being so late. Stayed at a hotel named Yutan or something like that, it's where American Airlines put us up due to missed flight. On the way from airport to hotel I saw streetwalkers, and about 5 or 6 clubs/strip joints along the way.
We were dead tired from spending about 9 hours at the La Paz airport, we just wanted to take a shower and hit the sack. As I was tipping the bellhop he asked me if I wanted a chica (compania). I said, yes and he told me in about 20 minutes. I knew better and figured it would be more like 30 mins. I took a quick shower and waited for the chica to arrive. She arrived about 30 minutes as I had predicted. When you been to Central or South America you get to know local time means 10-15 minutes later and that's early. Anyways, she was a tall 5'7", slender built, cute face, big 34D tits and a nice ass. Her name was Maira from Paraguay. Spent 90 minutes (massage, full service), total cost $60.00 US, plus $20.00 tip. Found out in the morning that the hotel had charged me $15.00 extra guest fee. Guess that's how they make a little money.
Sorry for rambling, but yes I would go to Santa Cruz if I was to go back to Bolivia.
La Paz International has a check point for drug search including coca leaves.
Currently the leaves are in the Class 1 drug catagory.
Rockin Bob
04-26-10, 16:40
I really enjoyed my visit to Bolivia. I was in Santa Cruz, Sucre, and LaPaz.
To reiterate what everyone has said on the board, altitude and coca are the two things you need to know about.
At 2,500 meters, Sucre isn't that bad, you get a little winded, but in LaPaz, 3,500 meters on average, it's a lot worse. Take it slow, don't drink a lot of alcohol, and sleep alone, as they say. At least the first two. Do drink a lot of water. There is all this stuff about altitude sickness, the soroche: I wouldn't worry too much about it, you might get a slight headache at times.
Coca: you can buy a bag for 10 or 15 Bolivianos that will last you a good while. It comes with a little bag of powder that you add to the leaves when you get them soft with saliva. The locals will show you how it's done. The coca really makes dealing with the altitude a lot easier.
Bolivia: nice people, beautiful mountain scenery, cheap: in short a great place to travel. Note: it only costs about 50 US dollars to fly from any Bolivian city to another. Although the distances are short as the crow flies, if you take a bus a lot of your travel will be up and down mountains via switchbacks. Someone also told me that if you take a bus be careful: sleep with one eye open, in other words.
I've never been to Bolivia mainly because of altitude issues. Are the lowlands in itself worth a 1 month visit? Would there be mongering outside of SC?
I would consider starting in Santa Cruz but is there enough to do in the surrounding areas for one month?
How would you suggest I get there from NYC? I DO NOT want to pass through La Paz.
Thanks
UpToNoGood
02-15-13, 18:28
I've never been to Bolivia mainly because of altitude issues. Are the lowlands in itself worth a 1 month visit? Would there be mongering outside of SC?
I would consider starting in Santa Cruz but is there enough to do in the surrounding areas for one month?
How would you suggest I get there from NYC? I DO NOT want to pass through La Paz.
ThanksCopa airlines flies to Santa Cruz without first going to La Paz.
Although I have had better times in Santa Cruz years past, its still worth the trip. I go once or twice a year.
Wanting to live a period of more than 6 months in bolivia I'm looking for information on how you can make ideal would be to find those who already had this kind of experience I've already contacted the consulate and they told me that you can only 3 months in a year I have an Italian passport.
After your current visa is up, just take a visa run; cross the border of any near by country and go back in. Easy!
For some countries is good only that it is better to be familiar with the specific laws of each country also because over time things change I'd like to know the experience of someone who has been for a long time as a tourist in Bolivia. And both with European passport. I'm Italian.
Biggins230
11-30-14, 20:35
I would be interested on any info regarding the current laws on prostitution and marriage in Bolivia.
Has anyone been to Bolivia lately? Is it possible to find decent looking, nice ass girls down there? I'll appreciate any help!
Has anyone been to Bolivia lately? Is it possible to find decent looking, nice ass girls down there? I'll appreciate any help!In Bolivia, prostitution is legal and regulated. It is estimated that there are over 30,000 prostitutes in Bolivia. I Don't know why you are in trouble?
How are in the moment the actual covid government rules, restrictions, contact restrictions?
Not too sure about laws but some places get raided randomly, though not frequently. These places are known to operate illegally and rates are around 100 BS for a quick 5 minutes. There are better underground locations that are better and have better woman and won't cost you more than 350 BS for an hour for a good time with a very good looking women. There are also some independents who are good at 350 but usually better looking independents who charge 400-700 BS.
Eszpresszo
04-09-23, 23:43
Bolivia was on my to-do list at some point. But, my priority was Peru. I was able to book a free flight from Sao Paulo to Lima, with some CC miles on BoA with a stopover in Santa Cruz. Basically a 22 hour layover. Got to GRU and I must say the check-in was the easiest and most polite of any INTRA-continental flight I've done from GRU. TBH the times I flew to Buenos Aires and to Bogota out of Guarulhos Int'l was on LATAM and both times were a cluster fuck in which I almost never was allowed to fly out (but that was another story.) So I was pleasantly surprised by the courtesy and ease of the BoA people. The lady at the counter only told me I would need to wear a mask on the plane. Ugh. And they were serious. However, bless her heart, she forgot to tell me one other important detail.
No alcohol served on the flight, which was a plain, single-class modern 737 with the modern thinly-padded seats (Ugh). They did pass out sandwiches and soft drinks for the nearly 3-hour flight. Got to VVI on time and we were the only flight coming in to immigration (probably the only flight coming in period as there is little traffic coming into this small, but pleasant airport north of the city. There were two lines into customs and unfortunately my line was being handled by "the new girl", so to speak. The immigration officer in my line was a young lady obviously new on the job as she was very slow in processing us passengers and the people behind me were going onto the other line which was moving much faster. Meanwhile, I saw other people being directed to a counter on the side. I was originally in the middle of the pack, but suddenly I was the last one off the plane and there I was with the new girl presenting my passport. She asked, "Do you have your visa?
WTF? Visa? Normally its the job of the airline staff at the point of departure to advise you of visa requirements. I wasn't aware that US citizens needed a visa. But it was of course, my responsibility to find out if a visa is required to enter a country, and I was delinquient in doing that. My bad, for sure. I had assumed that in South American only Paraguay required a visa for US citizens ($50) Turns out that US citizens are among the very few who need to get a visa to enter Bolivia, and a sign on the wall, (in Spanish only) indicated that a tourist visa was $160 USD! Yes, $160. I complained to her that I was just making a connection and at that point her supervisor, who spoke English looked at my ticket for my connecting flight to Lima. He announced, "You only need a transit visa. She will sell you one over there, pointing to the adjacent counter where other gringos had been waiting around for some time. Yes, everyone else had gone through customs and now "the new girl" was going to work the visa counter, taking a place in a vacant cubicle and getting advice from an adjacent colleague on how to do it! My frustration level went through the roof at this point as the other gringos waiting on their visa gave me that knowing glance. The new girl announced it would be $22 for my transit visa and took my VISA credit card (the irony of this was not lost on me), though she required some direction from a colleague. She had me look into a webcam, took my photo and went to work printing out the visa on an adhesive sticker. Eventually she handed me my passport with the transit visa adhered to an entire page. But, by that time, another flight came in and suddenly there was a whole plane of people already lined up for processing. Fortunately, she directed me to another immigration agent who stamped my passport and let me pass to the baggage area. I grabbed my bag, which was already set aside off the carousel and went through customs, where a young lady asked me for my customs form. Customs form? Wait, I saw the flight attendant handing out customs forms to certain people on the plane. But, why not me? I had to fill it out, which took some time as it had a bunch of questions on it, handed it to the customs agent who directed me to the final stage. Put you bag onto the belt for the x-ray scanner and then go through a body scanner, which was not being montiored anyways. Finally I got though and out into the airport, where I was met by a large group of Mennonites who looked me up and down carefully as if I might be the gringo they were waiting on. The airport is small but neatly designed and I found me a picked me up pronto and we roared into town. It was a bumpy ride for sure. But, at least the hotel I stayed at, La Siesta, had a friendly and helpful guy at the counter who helped me get my bags up to my room, which was surprisingly nice for the price. There was no beer in the mini bar, so I asked him where to get a beer. He walked me downstairs to the door, pointed at the corner and said "Go right, three blocks. Don't worry, it's safe. " Indeed I had heard that Santa Cruz is actually quite safe despite the relative poverty. There were ample homeless people sleeping on the sidewalk. But, nobody bothered me or even gave me a second look. Got to the square and despite the late hour there was still families hanging out there was well as couples. Finally located an "Irish Bar" as the sign claimed. Guns-and-Roses were playing when I walked in and there were no Irish beer, though some good Bolivian micro-brew to be had. I assumed they took cash, as it was an upscale place. Nope! Cash only. But, the manager took a $20 bill from me and actually gave me cash at a fair rate. Nice people, for sure. It looked like they were trying to close, but the manager asked me if I didn't want another beer. Actually, I did. So, my impression of Bolivia improved very quickly as I learned they were mostly very nice and helpful people.
The takeaway here is that you need to be aware that visas are required for certain nationals, in particular US citizens. I suggest you get them before you arrive. Also, you might want to get some currency exchanged at the airport if you are arriving late. Otherwise, I only had to visit two ATMs to find one that would give me money (Bolivian ATMs are fast and efficient, unlike those in Brazil which are redundant and slow.) The area around the square if full of currency exchanges however, and they take just about all South American currencies, so I unloaded the extra Brazilian Reais at one place and got a decent rate. And then, it was off to the hoehouse!
Anyways, I am attaching a photo of my $22 transit visa and passport stamps to show that I'm not making this up (like a lot of people are doing lately).
There were two lines into customs and unfortunately my line was being handled by "the new girl", so to speak. The immigration officer in my line was a young lady obviously new on the job as she was very slow in processing us passengers and the people behind me were going onto the other line which was moving much faster. Meanwhile, I saw other people being directed to a counter on the side. I was originally in the middle of the pack, but suddenly I was the last one off the plane and there I was with the new girl presenting my passport. She asked, "Do you have your visa? WTF? Visa? Normally its the job of the airline staff at the point of departure to advise you of visa requirements. I wasn't aware that US citizens needed a visa. But it was of course, my responsibility to find out if a visa is required to enter a country, and I was delinquient (sic) in doing that. The takeaway here is that you need to be aware that visas are required for certain nationals, in particular US citizens. I suggest you get them before you arrive.See how easy it is to find out what you need to know? As you note it's ultimately your responsibility to know about visa requirements and not the airline's job to tell you:
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Bolivia.html
Elvis 2008
04-10-23, 14:13
WTF? Visa? Normally its the job of the airline staff at the point of departure to advise you of visa requirements. I wasn't aware that US citizens needed a visa. But it was of course, my responsibility to find out if a visa is required to enter a country, and I was delinquient in doing that. My bad, for sure. I had assumed that in South American only Paraguay required a visa for US citizens ($50) Turns out that US citizens are among the very few who need to get a visa to enter Bolivia, and a sign on the wall, (in Spanish only) indicated that a tourist visa was $160 USD! Yes, $160. I complained to her that I was just making a connection and at that point her supervisor, who spoke English looked at my ticket for my connecting flight to Lima. He announced, "You only need a transit visa. She will sell you one over there, pointing to the adjacent counter where other gringos had been waiting around for some time. Yes, everyone else had gone through customs and now "the new girl" was going to work the visa counter, taking a place in a vacant cubicle and getting advice from an adjacent colleague on how to do it! My frustration level went through the roof at this point as the other gringos waiting on their visa gave me that knowing glance. The new girl announced it would be $22 for my transit visa and took my VISA credit card (the irony of this was not lost on me), though she required some direction from a colleague. She had me look into a webcam, took my photo and went to work printing out the visa on an adhesive sticker. Eventually she handed me my passport with the transit visa adhered to an entire page. But, by that time, another flight came in and suddenly there was a whole plane of people already lined up for processing. Fortunately, she directed me to another immigration agent who stamped my passport and let me pass to the baggage area. I grabbed my bag, which was already set aside off the carousel and went through customs, where a young lady asked me for my customs form. Customs form? Wait, I saw the flight attendant handing out customs forms to certain people on the plane. But, why not me? I had to fill it out, which took some time as it had a bunch of questions on it, handed it to the customs agent who directed me to the final stage. Put you bag onto the belt for the x-ray scanner and then go through a body scanner, which was not being montiored anyways. Finally I got though and out into the airport, where I was met by a large group of Mennonites who looked me up and down carefully as if I might be the gringo they were waiting on. The airport is small but neatly designed and I found me a picked me up pronto and we roared into town. It was a bumpy ride for sure. But, at least the hotel I stayed at, La Siesta, had a friendly and helpful guy at the counter who helped me get my bags up to my room, which was surprisingly nice for the price. There was no beer in the mini bar, so I asked him where to get a beer. He walked me downstairs to the door, pointed at the corner and said "Go right, three blocks. Don't worry, it's safe. " Indeed I had heard that Santa Cruz is actually quite safe despite the relative poverty. There were ample homeless people sleeping on the sidewalk. But, nobody bothered me or even gave me a second look. Got to the square and despite the late hour there was still families hanging out there was well as couples. Finally located an "Irish Bar" as the sign claimed. Guns-and-Roses were playing when I walked in and there were no Irish beer, though some good Bolivian micro-brew to be had. I assumed they took cash, as it was an upscale place. Nope! Cash only. But, the manager took a $20 bill from me and actually gave me cash at a fair rate. Nice people, for sure. It looked like they were trying to close, but the manager asked me if I didn't want another beer. Actually, I did. So, my impression of Bolivia improved very quickly as I learned they were mostly very nice and helpful people.Yeah, the good is Bolivians are really nice people. I would even put them ahead of Peruvians in terms of kindness. However, it is fucked up politically. In general, the USA has been aiding the wealthy Europeans in the lowlands of Santa Cruz against the native Bolivians in La Paz. It is hard to underestimate how different those two groups are. The natives are the majority and they have been pushing the Europeans around at the ballot box and that fee was left over from Evo Morales who is either a great liberator of Bolivia or a thug on the order of Hugo Chavez depending on your perspective.
If you are a white male tourist in Santa Cruz, it is almost assumed you are DEA or CIA, and the reason is the soil is as lush as there is in the world. You throw seeds of anything into the ground and three months later, you have a plant bearing fruit or worse, and there are a lot of drugs being produced in the region. You do not see many Americans there, and you can see it with the hotels. I have not been there in a while but the best hotel was on the order of a run down Best Western. In fact, the ONLY place on par with a Marriott or Hilton was the Buganvillas condo complex and I learned to stay there.
You may ask why I went then. Well, the food was amazing. There was a steakhouse there that was to die for in the main square. The people were nice. I went to a botanical garden where they made fruit juice and it was the best juice I have had in my life.
With regards to the women, I went to the strip clubs. I had a few not that great, but I found a Brazilian and Paraguayan at the clubs that rocked my world. I could see assembling a harem there for a very low price.
I thought Bolivia was a country teaming with potential, and I thought it would be an interesting country to invest in. They have so many great resources and the population is not that big. However, I have changed my mind. Despite all their potential, the country is just too fucked up politically. I think Bolivia has lost every war they have ever been in and are still fighting amongst themselves now.
It is too bad because IMO the people really do deserve better.
Eszpresszo
04-10-23, 20:25
See how easy it is to find out what you need to know? As you note it's ultimately your responsibility to know about visa requirements and not the airline's job to tell you:
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Bolivia.htmlYep, that's what I said. Still waiting on you to post your passport stamps from some of the places you claim to have visited. How hard is that?
Yep, that's what I said. Still waiting on you to post your passport stamps from some of the places you claim to have visited. How hard is that?No, the issue is that you're all over the site holding yourself out to be Mr. Experienced I. Traveler and scolding others, with apparently nobody else ever having been anywhere according to you, but you couldn't even take the time to check to see if you needed a visa to enter Bolivia. The operative question is how hard is that? That's International Travel 101 bro LOL! Even if one has been to a place many times never assume. Always check to see if anything has changed. Now me? I say again. Over 50 countries on 5 continents! With nary a single visa problem LMFAO! And with nothing to prove to anybody.
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