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Sperto
12-01-03, 07:45
Has anybody been to a terma called Las Vegas, R. Intendente Magalhães, 1.183, Vila Valqueire, Rio (www.llasvegas.com.br)?

Zona Norte is a large area. There must be a lot of good places. Anybody got info?

Zidaho
12-02-03, 06:43
JimHart, get a Lonely Planet Rio book that should give you some good detail info.

BTW, if anyone wants the Primicileur Portugeese tapes I will sell my originals for $150.00. They cost $300.00 brand new, I just ordred a set a few days ago! Let me know if interested.

Grshel1
12-02-03, 14:21
BB´s (Bardot) beach is in Buzio. Buzio is a three hour bus (35 R) ride to a sleepy little fishing village that has become a tourist mecca. Do not go there in January. Very, very crowded and very, very expensive. The buses are fantastic...very comfortable, air conditioned, no smoking, and makes a rest stop half way at a immaculate rest area...clean...clean...clean. Other than January it is a quiet little town with lots of restaurants, small hotels, and shops. Clean beaches, no beggars and no shit slingers. Take your own as far as female companionship...and it is family oriented if you have them along.

Leo
12-03-03, 06:51
Zidaho,

Please do report back on the diving anywhere you visit - I am an avid scuba diver and would love to know about the spots for use on my future visits. Thanks.

Zidaho
12-03-03, 16:24
Leo,

I'll report on muff diving here and send my sea diving report to the General Info section! If there are any mongers in Rio between the 6th and 14th who want to venture Thermas and Clubs, please let me know. I'm in the Rio Roiss Saturday, then having Hakan of Rioaprtments.com looking for a one bedroom for 7 days. Though, I'd consider splitting a 2 bedroom with an honorable monger!

Long live the MONGERS!

Member #1121
12-04-03, 03:21
Centaurus:

(Rua Canning, 44, Ipanema). Centaurus is the most expensive of the Rio termas, and it has some quirky drawbacks, but the women can't be beat. The arrangements are somewhat different at Centaurus. As you enter you are asked to pay R290 (about US$105). This covers admission, and 40 minutes in a nice room with any girl. Drinks are additional and are paid for as you leave. You can also arrange to have two girls at once but will need to pay an additional $100 in advance. After you enter you will be escorted by a girl to the dressing room. She will help you out of your clothes and into a robe and sandals. This is one aspect of Centaurus that's not good. The girls typically hangs around and expects that she will be your date for the evening. Always make it clear that you want to go somewhere to relax for awhile and then look around they get the message. After a shower on the ground floor you head upstairs to the bar area. There is a small room with a TV and massage tables that is often crowded with guys and girls getting friendly while watching soccer (what else!). The bar area is fairly large and has seating at the bar and bench seating elsewhere where it is easier to get to know the girls. They also serve burgers and French fries! There is a small stage where they have girls dancing to the music and on some nights stripping (topless) around midnight or so. The great thing about Centaurus is the girls. There are a lot of them (85 girls is what the management says) and most are stunning.

There are a few not so good looking ones but in general most are friendly and speak passable English (a trait not easily found in other termas) As good as L'uomo is, there's a substantial leap in the beauty of the girls. You will find a number of girls to your liking, and will likely find yourself paralyzed by indecision. When you find the one you like, just smile and wink and they'll come over. They are better conversationalists than girls at the other termas.

I went out with a local carioca – very fair and nice big boobs. She said she was fairly new and has been working in centaurus for about 2 months. She was slightly shy. I broke the ice by initiating the conversation and asking her name. She goes by the name flaira.
She is about 22 years old and very nice company. We sat on the sofas in the dance floor and got to know each other better. Soon her soft and tender lips were all over me. We started with some soft kissing and me fondling her breasts. Some girls ask you to buy them drinks- this one was not interested in drinking. After about 15-20 minutes of foreplay she asked me if she should make a room reservation. I agreed and gave her my locker key number. She went into the “relaxing” area and made a phone call and booked a room. There was a wait time of about 10 minutes that day. She came back and there was more groping and fondling.

After a couple of minutes she said that we should proceed to the rooms located upstairs to get the festivities started. There was a lady cleaning the room. After every session they change the sheets on the bed and clean the sink etc. the room was very clean. She asked me to wait and went and changed, etc. after 5 minutes she acme down. Locked the room and dimmed the lights. I sat on the bed and she started by giving me a neck massage. Slowly she started kissing me around the neck area. Then I put her on the bed and undressed her- removing her bra and thong. She was a passionate kisser and seemed to enjoy sex. Performed some DATY and DFK and then had her give me a CBJ and then had her ride me which she did in fine fashion and her face showed that she was enjoying it to. After this she asked me to go greek, now I am not into all that stuff but I decided to do it as she was adamant about it. That followed by some doggy style fun and it was enough to finish me. She then lay in bed cuddling and kissing and said we only have 3 minutes left and that I should come back tomorrow. I asked her to come to my hotel the next day. But she refused.

After the session I went and relaxed in the ‘relax” room. To my surprise she joined me there and we had some nice moments in there. I asked her again if she would like to come to my hotel and this time she said maybe. I told her that she could show me around Rio . She agreed and gave me her phone number and took my hotel and room number. Next afternoon she called me and asked if I wanted to see her. I agreed and she promptly came over . we met in the lobby , went to sugarloaf and then came back to my hotel and made love there for over an hour.

Overall impression:
ATTITUDE: 9
LOOKS: 9
English Skills: 5 (enough to make a decent conversation)

Centaurus for me was an excellent place and I would not hesitate going there again.

Member #1121
12-04-03, 03:22
l'uomo:

located on the second floor of a shopping mall next to rua sequoia campos. it can be difficult to find as the place is full of antique shops and the termas is outside on a balcony with only a small door surrounded by window bricks. entry is r50 (us$18) and they charge r120 for 40 minutes with the girl in a standard room (which is pretty pathetic). upon entering and registering you are given a wrist band which carries an id number and locker key. you then proceed through into the locker area, the key opens a specific locker which contains a robe and sandals. you change into these then go through into the main area which is a darkened disco type arrangement. when buying a drink the barman records the number on your wrist strap ands its added to your tab for when you leave. at the other side of the disco is a room with sun loungers and cable tv. adjoining this room are the toilets with shaving facilities and a steam room and sauna with hot showers and cold showers. after cleaning up and relaxing, you select a girl, then take her to one of the rooms. a lady oversees this and rings a telephone in the room when time is up. the girls at l'uomo are generally decent (there's variability for sure) and are very good at their work. l'uomo is open 3pm-2am mon-sat. and this year (celebrating their 20th anniversary) is open sundays.

i went there on a sunday night. as soon as i entered i heard a lot of clapping. curious to know what was happening i peeked into the dance over the heads of some guys blocking the passage to the disco room which is pretty small.

i saw a girl during a striptease routine and other girls sitting with customers at the bar fondling and kissing. after the first show was over a girl came in dressed up as a belly dancer and did a sensual belly dance kind of thing. she was probably the hottest looking one in there. about 5’2”, looked local. i couldn’t get a chance to talk to her as she went off after the striptease was over and i couldn’t spot her again for the 2 hours that i was there. the girls were decent and there were a couple of average looking blondes in there. language was an issue and most did not speak english. you would be best advised to learn some spanish/portuguese at these places. they all speak little spanish.

i sat down at the couches in the dance room and soon had a girl dance in front of me, grinding her ass and making suggestive moves, one smile from me was enough to get her into my lap. she sat next to me and slid her hands down my crotch and started giving me a hj to my surprise. i moved my hand all over her ass and then moved onto her breasts. with all this going on she started kissing me on the chest and these brazilian girls are wild. the 30 or so minutes of foreplay was enough to satisfy me to book a room with her. she took my key, booked a room, changed into a black satin robe and took me to the room. the room was a joke, barely enough to fit the 2 of us and there was a sheet, no bed for any action. i started kissing and fingering her while in the standing position and then had her give me a bbbj which was awesome. after a while we both lay on the floor cuddled and dfk’ed for a while and then i went at her missionary. after i was done, she switched to a 69 and finished me off.

the sex was alright except for the bj which was really good.

the rooms in these places are not too comfortable, so i would advise you to spend an extra r50 and get a suite with a bed and a shower/jacuzzi and enjoy the brazilian wildness in style.

Member #1121
12-04-03, 03:23
Termas Solarium:

(Rua JJ Seabra, 21, Jardim Botanica), located in a nice neighborhood about 15 minutes from Copa or Ipanema. Solarium is more on the upscale end of the termas, although a bit less expensive than Centaurus. Entry is R50 and then R120 for a girl in a standard room for 40 minutes. A normal non sexual massage is R40 at most termas Solarium is a bit off the beaten path if you are living in copacabana.

As you enter the doorway, there is a lady and a guy at the reception, both of whom speak good English. They will explain all the club rules and rates. After you get the locker key, you go the locker , change into a robe and put on a pair of slippers and head over to the second floor where the disco and girls are.. This place is really small and kind of intimidating at first. I usually like to go , check out the girls from a distance, see what’s on offer and then go make a selection and go about my business. The scene here is that you enater, there are a couple of girls on the couches right next to the entrance, a baby dance floor (yes its really small) and a bar on the right. I sat on the couches and soon had about ¾ girls dancing around in their bikinis in front of me. The usual style is that the girls look at the mirrors and dance to themselves or with their other girlfriends there and if you look at them for a while they are in your lap.
I had a girl who came over to me and started talking to me in Portuguese. I told her that I speak only English. She didn’t seem to care and continued talking in Portuguese and I could make out what she was talking- using hand gestures etc. She was not all that attractive and for that matter there were not that many good looking ones out there. She was extremely wild as she straight away grabbed my dick and started massaging it. The she called her friend and told her something in Portuguese and she too grabbed my dick. After a while she went off to lure my buddy and this other girl(don’t know her name) stayed on me. She rubbed her body all over, sat down on my right thigh and rubbed her pussy up and down while simultaneously kissing me all over for about 10 minutes or so. The she asked if we should go and have sex, using sign language of course and I politely told her that I would like to look around. Don’t know whether she understood or not but she continued working on me. After a while she kissed me and probably being tired went and sat down on the couches.
I got chatting with a few guys and one of them introduced a cute blonde who spoke decent English. The girl was decent looking but not to my liking. She too spent a lot of time playing with me.

Here at Solarium I didn’t do any girl, but the girls are pretty wild. They love playing with your dick and absolutely wild and passionate kissers.

If you are into Blondes/fair looking girls this would probably not be the place for you, but then again I went on a Monday night so maybe the selection was limited.

Definitely worth a visit though.

Rio Bob
12-04-03, 14:03
Centaurus

I am in Rio now and as previously posted by me I have been going since 1980. Since all this time I have not been to Centaurus so I decided to go this time to see what it is all about. I arrived about 6 PM and there were about 4 or 5 Americans at the reception disputing the pricing policy, I knew about it but I was`nt going to let it stop me as it did these guys. I figured that for the premium price and the upfront payment there must be some gems inside.

Well there were plenty of girls but I did not see anything that was exceptional so I waited had a few drinks and waited some more. I spoke to many girls but not one had yet floated my boat. Finally I spoke to the Madam, The Donna, The Chefe of the girls and tol her that I was having a tough time deciding and can she please tell me who is the best girl in the place and bring her to me.

She obliged and told me to wait. She walked around and around looking for someone, she came back with a nice tall blond but still I wasn´t ready and told her I would speak to her later.

Now every girl in the place keeps asking me why I am alone and I told her that I do not want to waste anybodys time and that when I do sit down and chat it would be for the reason that we are going to engage. Others came up to me and outright offered me entrance to the back door no problem, this interested me as I do not practice it often.

Well I finally felt that all the drinks were starting to affect me so I decided that I better make a move, I picked the one that the Donna (madam) offerd me and went to a cabin and did the back door, the front door and the door upstairs, we left no door closed.

I had a good time of course and she was very good like a pro but for the extra money and the pricing policy I may look elswhere when I do termas even though I am not a termas guy.

Bob.

Rio Bob
12-04-03, 14:17
Barra Escort

After going to Help for 2 nights on my third day I decided to try one of the escort services for a late afternoon session. Before leaving for Rio I had checked out the various sites to see what I liked and I called Barra Escort for Luciana Moura. Well when she finally arrived to my apartment she didn´t look exactly like the picture on the site but she was a 20 year old college student she was very sweet nice body and very eager to please. She was quite refreshing with a great attitude a hard worker much better than the one I had in Help the night before who I practically kicked out as I didn´t thing she was worth the effort for a second round but her bj was exquisite.

Anyway I would recommend Luciana Moura on Barra Escort R140 for 1 hour plus taxi.

I called another site which is VIP RJ and they told me that their normal girls are R300 for 2 hours and their magizine models are R500 for 2 hours, well if they were really Playboy material it might be worth the 500 but I would hate to get caught with a dog.

Rio Bob
12-04-03, 14:35
Non Pros

Yesterday afternoon I was walking to the internet cafe past Bobby´s. I saw a pretty blond walking by and smiled at her, she smiled back, she is not a pro. I stopperd her and we talked, she gave me her telephone number which I have not used yet.

After that I went to Ho beach in front of the Othon Palace and didn´t care for the scence I was just tired of saying no I don´t want a chair and I didn´t see anything interesting.

I walked up to the Marriott and spotted many non pros but couldn´t get any eye contact. Finally I stopped in front of the Marriott and just was hanging out by the water line when 2 young pretty girls ran past me into the water. One gave a little smile and we started talking at first I figured they were barely 18 but they were 20 and 24 years old sisters. We sat for 2 hours and had some beers the one who was 24 was so cute and tiny but told me she was going back to Brasilia that night. She told me she was attracted to me and next time I am in Brasil call her in Brasila.

She decided to stay one more night so I met them all at 8:30 which is her and the sister and another friend, we went to Mondegos for dinner, the other 2 girls said they were going out to a disco and asked my girl if she wanted to go. My girl whispered in my ear that she wants to go to my room instead, I am more than twice her age, these latin women love experienced mature men, thats ok with me. Well we shook the other 2 went into the lobby of the Othon Palace for one last drink and then to my room around the corner for a night to remember and morning to remember.

She asked me if I wanted her to stay one more day, this was a tough question and difficult to answer when the answer is no but being a true monger and safado I tried to let her off lightly so I can look for other endeavors. Can you imagine turning down a very beautiful 24 year old very willing non pro para grats, only in Brasil.

Rio Bob
12-04-03, 14:44
Help

This week I had been to Help 3 times already and overall the quality and quantity I have seen better in recent years. One night I even left alone as it was the night I had spent the afternoon in Centaurus so I was pretty spent anyway as in Centaurus the girl told me she hadn´t worked so hard in a long time anyway. Not only that I had been partying since 2 in the afternoon and it was now 3 in the morning, one girl even commented that I had too much to drink and can I even do it. I said to her what do you care you would be getting paid anyway, what are you a concietious worker or something. But I thought about it and figured that tomorrow was another day. This is the Japanese girl who has been going there for years, she used to dress up as a cheer leader years ago with pony tails, she speaks perfect english. I had never been with her but I told her I think its time, so I hope to do it this week before I leave.

Junior
12-04-03, 15:58
Rio Bob,

I am sorry to hear you were disappointed with centaurus. I spend a lot of time there in september and had a fantastic time. I cannot wait until I get back to Rio and Centaurus in January.

All in all I guess our tastes and experiences will inevitably vary.

If anyone is going to be around for the first two weeks of january feel free to drop me a pm.

Junior

Ken_Apples
12-05-03, 01:23
Sperto,

I have written you a question in the photgraphy section, If you got the time and possibility, plese reply there.

Best regard / Ken

FKK Newbie
12-05-03, 03:53
Rio

A recent trip to Rio was a blast! I had some concerns about the safety before going there but luckily nothing happened. Stayed in Hotel Debret in Copacabana. Hotel is great and allowed guests with an additional fee of 70 reais. The guest has to leave by 6am though. The hotel is very nice for the price. Breakfast is included on the top floor with a great view of copacabana and ipanema beaches. Rooms were comfy, staff was excellent.

Now the fun part - brazillian girls are wild, horny and friendly. Its very hot in Rio so they dress minimum which is good. Take a long walk across copa and ipa beaches and you will know what I mean. There was not much thong action on the beaches though. there was some but not a lot. that was the disappointing part. Visit the number 9 post on the Ipanema beach. It is supposed to be the thong center. You will see lots of women lying down in groups or playing volleyball. Dont be shy, go talk to them. They are usually friendly. girls in the city are very good looking, all are extremely fit. dont know if theres something in their food or what. south american girls like to flirt a lot. We visisted the Rio Sul mall (definitely go there) most women in there are model like and extremely friendly. They are eager to answer questions, help you, talk to you, in the process they touch you a lot. If you know the language you can pick them up easily. They are not working girls though so be discrete.

The termas:

Luomo.

A great place. The best I liked out of all termas. A small place with quality girls. Started with a full body massage which was VERY VERY good. It was non sexual but the masseur was very good. I think her name was jaqueline. Try her. she has very nice attitude too.

Lot of wild girls roaming around. They made several passes almost grabbing my cock everytime. A few almost did a DFK on me. They had free food available in the inside room. The girls were very nice looking and eager to make love. I settled with one tall, busty carioca called Samaya. Very nice looking. The regular rooms at Luomo are not good. Only a piece of sheet on the floor, not even enough space so get yourself a bigger room. Samaya was good but not the greatest. She let me do everything I wanted but didnt take much intiative on her own. During the 25 minute foreplay she was much wilder, massaging, grabbing, kissing a lot. Inside she did not do much loving. I had to tell her to do this and that. but she was very nice. had multiple rounds with her. Not a problem. She was a hungry beast. or was I?

Other girls in Luomo were good too. A lot of times I told these girls that I am not interested but they hung around saying its not a problem beacuse they like flirting and fondling. I believed them with what I had seen on the streets.

Solarium

Bigger than Luomo. Quality of girls was not that great. I found Luomo better. The girls attitude was good here. They had a striptease show. Lot of girls, not many guys here. Many girls just sat on the sofa and flirted with guys. Two of the girls approached me and my buddy. Did lot of foreplay. The usual, touching, caressing, rubbing, DFK etc. Since it was four of us, things got a little wilder to the foursome side, but we got a grip on ourselves since we were not in a hotel room! I ended up going with one of them. Great time. I got what I wanted. True GFE. They even stayed with us after the session just hanging out since not many guys there anyway. Again foreplay happened, or shall I call it postplay? A lot of arousing but didnt end up going for another round. Enough for that night.

Overall good place but not all that great. One thing I hated was the massage. I didn't like the professional massaeur at all. She was not at all appealing so I didn't get a massage even though I terribly wanted one after a wild session.

Centaurus

A much bigger place. A lot more girls. A lot of variety. Some girls were pushy. As I entered within 5 minutes many girls approached but I told them I wanted to look around. One did foreplay with me for a while but seemed pushy as she kept forcing me to get reservations for the room upstairs. That pissed me off and I sent her away. Looked around. Some very nice faces. There was live music playing. Too bad guys were playing that. One thing I hated most about Centaurus was the masseur was a guy. What the hell! In such a place why should the masseur be a guy? They have to get in some nice looking, assy, busty chicas if they want customers to get massage. Pissed me off totally.

Just when I was passing time with this, another chica by doing the usual fondling, partial love making on the sofa. I saw this wonderful lady walking around. YES! She is the one. The one who had been haunting me in my dreams :-). She was a total knockout. She looked Brazilian and Russian. Her name was Karing. Much like Mila Kunis from The 70s show. I knew I am getting her no matter what. Even if Centaurus closed that moment, I will follow this lady to the end of the world and have a session with her :-). She was fantastic in the room. I couldnt believe what I was doing. The problem is all these Cariocas dont speak enough English. I tried making loving conversations but in vain so I decided to stick to the deed. She was wild and hungry. Started with massaging each other. Within minutes things got out of control and moved to heavy DATY and BBBJ. I couldn't believe the first session ended so abruptly! Well no worries, the action continued. She was a total GFE. I looked at the time, still 30 minutes remaining. I smiled and returned to Karing forgetting all fears of this whole wide world. Another round of intense love making. I will spare the details as I am not writing a porn story here but you get the idea! Finally lot of oral, 69 and finished with missionary. I took her phone number for the next day (most of them willingly give you) and returned to the hotel.

The next morning I was supposed to take her to the beach and do some thong action there but it rained and so went our plans down the drain. But take heart, she did show up to my room. Even though we did not go to the beach, we ended up having lunch and returning to our room once more. Any guesses on what happened next?

HELP disco, Meie Pataca cafe and copa area in general.

Not much action outside HELP on a weeknight. Many girls romaing around, sitting in cafes but most of them are ugly. Talk to them, negotiate to improve your skills if you may want to. Not the take home material. Most of them are transsexuals anyway.

I returned to HELP on Friday night. This time we went in by paying 25 reais entrance. The atmosphere inside is totally awe inspiring. Lots and lots of great looking women, ready to be hit upon. The place was packed around 3am with people rubbing into each other as they tried to squeeze their way through. Lots of assy, fit, model like women there. Some average too but mostly good. The music is kick ass. Definitely check out this place. When taking the girl out, go a few blocks away from Help and then flag a cab. Ssk them how much they will charge. It shows you know where you are going even if you dont and the chances of the cab driver ripping you off are less.

RIO is a great place. Your experience will be as good as you make out of it. Know portugese, dont be shy, shun all your american fears of approaching and hitting on women. Go to termas, check out many different things. Have a nice time and use protection if you want to be living and return another time.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

Sperto
12-05-03, 21:02
Ken,
Where's your question? Can't find it.

Member #1121
12-05-03, 23:03
FKKNewbie,

Good report. Did you pick up any cariocas from Meia Pataca or HELP?

During my visit there HELP had a decent collection on offer but Pataca was dead. Not enough good looking ones in there. But then again I went in on a weekday morning so maybe the selction was limited.

Gladiator
12-05-03, 23:09
I've just come back from my 2nd Rio sexpedition. It's been fantastic. Usually my dreams start when I fall asleep but in Rio the dreams began when I woke up every morning, or every afternoon. There is no doubt that Rio is the ultimate destination.

What can I say about Rio that hasn't been already said? I suppose not much, so I'll just relate some of my most relevant experiences.

Let's start with Help.

Some time ago one of the honourable members of this board classified the Help chicks as hardcores, part-timers or out-of-towners, that's a fucking good classification of the Help fauna. I'd only add newbies to complete the spectrum: in my view each one of the Help birds falls into one of these 4 categories. Yes, there are also terma girls, but they are either hardcores or part-timers (or both).

I found the hardcore index to be higher than when I was there last year, around 80-90% depending on the time. I liked it most between midnight and 1 am, and after 2-3 am I found it hard to spot young, non-hardcore birds. But having said that I must admit there are some gems there, you only need to do a thorough search, have your radar permanently on and avoid the interferences from the mediocrities that occasionally approach you.

On my first night I hunted a part-timer (only Thu to Sun on duty as she also has a daytime job on weekdays), she was a young and beautiful mulatta sweetheart. The asking price was R 300, so we started negotiations to bring that figure down. After some bargaining she didn't seem to go lower than R 250, I was tired as I had landed in Rio 4-5 hours before meeting her, after a 12-hour flight, and I had already fucked a freelancer I met between the Balcony and my apartment, so I didn't make the effort of trying to bargain any further and accepted the R 250 deal for all night till next day at 12:00 (midday). I had a great time with this sweetie and I continued one more day with her, she stayed with me during the daytime on the beach too at no extra cost.

On another occasion I came accros an out-of-towner who was also a great experience: a peroxide blond from Sao Paulo with big tits and a bubly personality, she was testing the waters for the first time in Rio. The asking price for all night was R 150, I didn't want to look like a cheap Charlie and bargain that, so I accepted straightaway. She behaved very well throughout the night.

My 3rd Help chick looked like a part-timer, but that was just the appearance, in fact she was a knock-out drug artist. Knock-out drug events are like road accidents, I always thought they only affected to others, but that night I was the lucky one. Fortunately I realised in time and kicked her ass (and her friend's ass) out of my apartment, after a fight. Anyway, I'll write shortly a very detailed report on what exactly happened that night and will post it in the Safety in Rio board, which is where it belongs.

Lastly, I hunted another night a fresh 19 years old black cutie, for R 150 for all night. A wonderful time with her too. She was a Help regular but had been on business for just a few months, so she had neither the attitude nor the look of a hardcore: she was a newbie.

I think Help is a great place to hunt if you arrive early and avoid the hardcores (and the knock-out drug artists!).

I'd like to continue now with my termas experiences and with the non-pro establishments that I visited, but have no time, I'll continue as soon as I can.

(To be continued)

Bull Dozer
12-06-03, 05:42
Guys,

Any info on the SWING CLUBS in Rio, I'll be there on Dec.29th-Jan6th, would like to hook up with WSG members. Not much action at Solarium have been there a few times on sunday when they are suppose to have swing day. Sao Paulo has many good swing clubs, need some info on Rio. Please send a PM.

GJ

Gladiator
12-06-03, 22:01
During my recent stay I visited a few termas, Luomo was the one where most of the talent seemed to be concentrated: all the chicks there had great bodies and all except 2 had nice faces too. I tried 3 chicks on different days and really enjoyed them. With one of them I arranged to spend the whole night too at my apartment, at R 300.

In all termas the top talents usually ask for R 300 for TLN, and their quotes are quite inelastic as they already make good money during the day and are not really in need of making more money during the night too, I found their quotes hard to negotiate down.

I didn't like the level of quality in Montecarlo, even though there were 3-4 very good-looking birds. I did a session with one of them and she was great, not only her technique but above all her attitude: she had the best attitude I've ever found in Rio. I was so delighted that I had no option but to contract her for TLN at R 300, and that night was fantastic, that chick really knows how to behave.

I wasn't impressed either with the quality in terma 65, just 3-4 very beautiful chicks and the rest were mediocrities. I picked up one of the cuties and had a great session. Around 10 minutes after the session started I noticed some bumps between her pubic hair, on closer inspection I saw it was molluscum. Molluscum bumps are easy to recognise, I had them some time ago and it is a minor infection. I thought about stopping the session, but in the heat of the moment I decided to go on, after all molluscum is very easy to treat and eradicate, so even if a caught it again it'd be a minor inconvenience.

By the way, who said terma girls are not allowed to work if they have STD's? Obviously that's not true, at least in 65: that chick had clear and easy to see molluscum bumps and she was working and spreading the virus. If the doctor who, presumably, tests them hasn't seen the bumps is because he's blind, I could see them even in the dim light of the room. I can't understand why that girl doesn't get treatment, eradicating molluscum is the easiest thing on earth. I suppose it's just laziness or ignorance.

In 4x4 there were a high number of chicks but most of them were mediocrities and even a few dogs, I only saw 3 chicks I really liked in this terma.

I also visited a terma that was mentioned here some time ago, but it seems to be under-reported: terma 502 (in Centro). This terma was dissapointing, it's cheaper than all the above but considering the filthy conditions of the rooms and the very low quality of the girls I'd rather pay more and go anywhere else. Most chicks were either mediocrities or dogs, there were only 2-3 good-looking ones. You don't need bathrobe here, you just get in in your own clothes, choose the chick (providing you find anything fuckable there) and go up the the room, which is a shithole. They showed me also the suites, which were bigger shitholes, but equally filthy. When I chose a black chick and went to pay -yes, here you pay before fucking-, they had to gave me R 8 change but the cheeky recepcionist seemed to have forgotten about it, I had to remind her, in Portuguse obviously because no-one speaks a word of English there. Also, each time I asked for a drink my chick picked up the receipt and checked it very carefully, she said they were likely to 'make mistakes' and overcharge you. It didn't happen to me, but by the paranoid way in which my chick checked the receipts I believed her (she had been 1 year working there and knows better than me what's going on).

I must admit the black chick I picked up was very good: beautiful and great attitude and skills. After finishing with this chick I just had a drink and kept contemplating the mediocrities and the hugs who work there, when suddenly I spotted a young mulatta beauty, she was a true 18 years old gem, I couldn't believe she was working there. I'd just finished an exhausting 1-hour session with a chick so I didn't want to go again to the room with her, on the other hand I wouldn't go back to those filthy rooms even if I got paid for it, so I made an appointment with her for TLN that night when she finished her shift. Her asking price was R 400 for TLN, I offered R 200, she said OK. This gem was one of the stars of my trip, I repeated with her several nights, she was really into it and had no limits: she did it all. She said she's now left the 502 shithole and is working as a freelancer (Help, Balcony, Terraca Atlantico, etc.), which is more profitable, as 502 have low prices due to the fact that the punters are Brazilians, so chicks don't seem to earn too much there. Anyway, my finding was an ad hoc event: if you are looking for gems in Rio 502 is one of the last places where you should go.

Also, I left a couple of books that I had just bought (worth around R 60) at the reception of 502 and forgot to pick them up when I left (I was so excited thinking of the gem I had just found...), so I went the following day to collect them, but the crooked recepcionists told me the books had been stolen and I couldn't get them back. I'd advise everyone against going to 502 for all the reasons I've just written.

Paolino
12-07-03, 11:29
@ Go Joe,

i heard that one of the hotspots for couples is a swinger-club called "Paraiso dos Casais" located in Tijuca (20km from Ipanema). I was asked by a chick to accompany her when i was chilling out at the bar Balcony, obviously the sex would have been for free but she also needed someone who would have paid her the taxi to go there; wasn't in the mood to walk barefoot over slippery condoms and Kleenex so i turned down the offer. I think that it's pretty easy to find a girl to accompany you there; just look for some freelancers in Help, Balcony,etc...

cheers!

PRBuck
12-08-03, 00:10
Just got back from Rio. Another excellent trip. One of the key challenges I have always experienced is finding the balance with regard to the amount of time devoted to one garota. Had an excellent time and saw a good bit of the city with a great one, but she really limited my freedom. Still got to visit Help. Good scene, lots of talent. I must say, however, that I sense that the overall talent level has dropped off over the past few years. I am actually getting a bit tired of Rio/Copa. Thinking of another part of Brazil for the next trip. Suggestions?

Thanks.

High Tech
12-08-03, 03:21
Went to Rio for 1 week for Thanksgiving holiday. (part1)

Arrived Saturday morning and went with a Carioca friend to MELT at 11pm to check out the locals. Downstairs we had some eye-contact with two girls sitting in a group on a table. After a while we went upstairs and had a bit of eye contact with two nice girls,
who then started dancing by themselves and when they came back to the bar my Carioca friend made his move.

It turns out that both of them speak perfect English. I was interested in the taller one with dark hair and green eyes. I asked questions about places for Samba and Bossa Nova and the Lapa district. Pretended to be the tourist needing some help to see the the 'real Rio'. Asked for her phone number and we agreed to meet at Ipanema beach the next day. The Carioca was teasing that she must have given a wrong number.
The girls left a bit early (1am).

We then went downstairs and the Carioca made hic move on the girls downstairs. As the girl he was talking to was sitting he actually was on his knee when talking to her. He had constant eye contact and it looked like he was proposing to her (-; Anyways I also joined and it turns out the girls are visiting from Sao Paulo and they also speak English. After a short time the girl the Carioca is talking to stands up they talk for another 30minutes and then they move to another table.

Well I have to admit the Carioca has the looks and he was really not doing bad. The girl I was talking to was not so interested in me. Anyways Carioca got the number this time.

Then we switched to plan B and took a taxi to Barbarella. R$50 entrance was a bit steep so we were discussing when two Aussie girls came to the entrance. They also thought that R$50 was too much but then why would 2 girls go to Barbarela? My Carioca friend warned them that the area may be dangerous at this time for 2 girls alone. At the end we entered the place together with the girls.

Both girls were very athletic and we started talking. After about 30 minutes the Carioca was kissing with the Australian chic. They were kissing so hard that it looked like a struggle (-;

Anyways I also made my move on the other girl but with no success. She then asked me to call one of the girls to the table to perform a lap-dance for her. Of course, this is not Australia where a girl getting a lap-dance is normal. I told her the deal that it is possible to take these girls home etc. She pretended that she could not believe me. Anyways after a while I was suspicious about her interest for girls and her insistence on getting a girl on her lap. When I asked if she was a lesbian, she got kind of mad and then turns around stops her friend kissing the Carioca and starts kissing her.

Anyways the other girl wanted to leave with my friend and at the end the 3 of them left to the girls place and I took a taxi to my hotel. So I assume one of them wanted a girl that night and the other kissing the Carioca must have been bi-.

In fact, after trying so hard to get it for free I did not want to pay that night, that's why I decided not to pick any girl from Barbarella. Also after chatting to all these hot chics at Melt the selection at Barbarella seemed average.

On Sunday I took it easy meeting in the afternoon with the two girls at the beach and having some drinks. We had a nice chat and agreed to meet to go out later on in the week. The girls were very friendly and promised they would drive us to any club we wanted.

High Tech
12-08-03, 03:48
Went to Rio for 1 week for Thanksgiving holiday. (part2)

I have been to Rio 4 times before (every 6 months) and that I have always been to Centaurus so far and had a good time. On Monday I decided I need some action and wanted to try another Terma. I went to L'uomo at 6.30pm. It was smaller than Centaurus and I was not dissapointed.

I immediately locked-on to a girl, who was sitting, but unfortunately 5-6 other girls locked-on to me. So I decided to take it easy and continue drinking my vodka. After a while the girl stood up and left the room so I decided to leave the room as well to see the other facilities. When I came back into the room the girl I liked was standing at the door.

I told her that I really like her with my limited Spanish and whether she wants to have drinks with me. So we want to the bar and after some small-talk we started kissing. She was awesome! Real GFE and that's why I go to Rio.

If I just wanted sex I would not go there, but for making love it's the perfect place. So after 1 hour of kissing etc one of her friends came and said that we should better go upstairs. interestingly there was no pressure by the girl (Carol).

I was ready and we went upstairs for 40 minutes. Same GFE upstairs. An excellent session and interstingly she teased me by rubbing her sexual organ against mine without condom. Not sure what the health experts would say to that (-; After the session I want down and took a shower and went to the TV room to relax. She joined after 15 minutes and started kissing again. The kissing continued and I was wondering if she wanted a second session. After 2 hours! of kissing I decided that I need to take her phone number and arranged to meet her Friday evening (her day off) at my hotel. I was so pleased by her kissing and passion that I offered her R$300 for an overnight stay. She seemed pleased.

BTW please report if more girls at L'uomos are so not caring about condoms. This may not be good for the customers health.

Jumping ahead to Friday:
I took her to VIPs after I read all the reports on this forum. We spend 3 hours there and I came twice. Then we had a nice romantic dinner and went to my hotel where we had another 3 hour session and I came once more. It was 3am when we were done. Then Saturday morning we had another 2 hour session.

The reson why these sessions are so long is because of all teh fore-play. I know nobody ever writes about this but then I'm a bit more sensitive person. I would also pace myself during sex so that I would be able to last longer. As I visit Rio often I know that I have to be able to last to please the girls. The sessions were all wonderful and everything felt so real. It was like if she really had feelings for me and was enjoying it.

She had a few orgasms as well as I was making sure that she enjoyed things as well by always spending plenty of time rubbing and massaging her clit. There were some funny parts where she asked me if I would marry her and believe me guys at that moment I really thought: Where do I sign? None of my girls-friends was ever so passionate and into kissing and sex. I guess it comes with the job, but she did not like her job and seemed serious about visiting me in the US. Now she really got me thinking if I could and should save her from this life if she visits me in the US.

High Tech
12-08-03, 04:04
went to rio for 1 week for thanksgiving holiday. (part3)

after the great experience at l'uomo on monday i thought it can only get better on tusday and went to my favourite place centaurus. to my surprise the place was packed on a tuesday night and to my surprise the hottest girls were all girls i had done already in the last 2 years.

i was surprised that there were not many new good looking chicas. i saw only two new good-looking talent. anyways decided first to catch up with my old acquaintances, some of which i had already had outside centaurus at a rate of us$100 for 4 hours. one of the girls told me that last week was so busy that some girls were very tired but were asked to work till 3-4 am!

apparently the high demand at centaurus resulted in the managemnet putting more pressure on the girls to go upstairs faster for a faster turn-around of people. also girls like mara were very picky with customers before but the management again recommended that the girls be not so selective and be prompt to ask to go upstairs to fuck. this was all very sad for me as the girls in centaurus were always very friendly and i always spend plenty of time downstairs kissing and chating.

anyways i waitied for one of the two new hotties (somebody had snatched her in front of me). started talking to her when she came downstairs and after a few minutes of kissing she asked if i wanted to go upstairs.

this is never a food signal and her kissing was not passionate either. anyways she was so hot with her blue eyes that i accepted the risk ignoring the warning signs.
we went upstairs and the session was as expected not so good. after the oral sex she started to shout 'fuck-me' and that for the whole time. i had to kiss her to stop her from repeating the phrase. sex was very artificial and asked her to make me come with her mouth (did not accept not in her mouth). did his with a lot of hesitation.

apparently a 20 year old girl studying law. she was not that tight either and has been working there for 5 months there. good looking but over-worked. as soon as she came down another guy graped her. this all on a tuesday night. i guess the high number of customers is good for centaurus and the ladies but not necessarily for the customer. for now my new favourite place is l'uomo.

Java Man
12-08-03, 06:12
on the topic of alternative clubs: anyone know of any bondage nites or S&M clubs in Rio? seems my Brazilian goddess has a kinky side. she likes to be tied up & spanked. :-)
also reference the swingers clubs: is participation mandatory? i'm not sure if she would be willing to join-in, or go even, but watch-definitely. we've gone to strip clubs with live sex shows. she was turned on by them!
thanks in advance.

Rio Bob
12-09-03, 17:00
Swinging

A famous swinger club in Rio is Ele E Ela which takes place in Solarium in Jardim Botanico on Saturday night. This starts about midnight and swingers get to use all the facilities of Solarium the termas. Check out the Solarium website for more info.

Rio Bob
12-09-03, 17:22
Patrons of Help.

Not that it matters to me but in recent years I have participated in discussions on other travel websites about Rio. Mostly about what hotels, restaurants and clubs to go to. Sometimes Help has been mentioned and recommended to men who may be interested in their product offering. Invariably when this subject has come up Brazilians jump in and always put the place down and point out that it is just full of Brazilian programas and gringos looking for their services. As I read and participated in these discussions I always seemed to remember many many men in Help speaking fluent Portuguese and they weren't gringos struggling with a few words, these were Brazilians.

This trip I made a conscious effort to actually see how many Brazilians (men) are actually in Help and I saw many, not the majority of course but a good substantial percentage. Maybe about 25%. Now on this site I do not really see this discussion come up too much but I did see it come up at least once by a Brazilian and he also as a result put down the gringos in general as being used and thought of fools by the garota programas.

From what I can see there may be a certain level of envy as even though I am a gringo and speak a decent level of Portuguese on several occasions on initial contact the garota suspected I was a Brazilian but in discussing this subject in more depth I was told more times than once that even though there are Brazilians inside Help for the most part they do not want anything to do with them. They would only be friends with them as they cannot afford their services or put up with the Brazilian male behavior.

Just my 2 cents and an observation to not support some criticism that us gringos have had to endure.

Zidaho
12-09-03, 18:11
I flew into Rio Saturday afternoon, spent several hours at Luomo, my first experince in Brazil, what a collection of beauty! Laid three blondes here, over 4-5 hours. GREAT experience, though the third one was not as good as the previous two stunners. Afterwards went to HELP around 11:00 and picked up an 8, she was hot prior to getting to my room then really cooled off after arriving, she consumed my mini bar! Sunday went to Solarium, had two Brazilian bottled blondes, they were eager to please, love the feel of two sets of lips on my body. Monday, to 4x4 and spent several hours, here my taste changed to Brunettes, had one Mulatto, and three classic Brazilian girls. One had a clit that still gives me butterflies when I think about her. I realized by this time my strategy should be to find a girl I REALLY like from the thermas, get her phone number and make arrangements for afternooners, or, possibly all nighters. I left my cell phone in 4x4, discovering this today was a bit of a bummer. Stayed at Rio Roiss Saturday night, spent some time talking with Hakan from RioApartments.com got a 2 bedroom for $55.00 per night a block from beach for seven nights.

I´m just now starting to settle down as I´ve been on sex overdrive the past few days stretching 4 garottas a day. Burning through the cash, tipping way too much, etc. oh well, it´s fun to cut loose, but loosing my cell phone last night has dampend some of my spontaneity today. I think I´ll leisurely check out Centauraus today hang out there for several hours. So far Luomo, then 4x4, then Solarium have been the best thermas for me, maybe it´s been a poor choise on my part with the girls at HELP, but the one I had last night jumped up when she thought I had a climax, 15 mintues into the sex, my condom came off inside her and she became VERY insanely dramatic suggesting she would have to go to the hospital now, she needed another 50R for taxi, etc, etc. I escorted her to the door, we were two blocks from HELP, which I know is where she was going to try and get another score before 2:00 am. At this point I'm focusing on the Thermas, at least if I have the opportunity to bring one of those girls to the apartment I have a LITTLE bit more recourse if she behaves like a criminal, besides I have a better sense of who I´m with in a neutral environment. I was concerned she was going to start breaking things and causing some serious problems before I could get her out.

If anyone would like to meet for a drink please let me know. I´ll try to post a new cell phone number here the next day or so. WOW, I have to say that the thermas are absolutely FAR better than I had imagined. Though I´ve been a bit down today, I must say I do love this place!!! I´d like to have a compadre next time, I think it would be more fun, certainly safer, and more economical.

Rio Bob
12-09-03, 18:36
Junior said:
"Rio Bob,

I am sorry to hear you were disappointed with centaurus. I spend a lot of time there in september and had a fantastic time. I cannot wait until I get back to Rio and Centaurus in January.

All in all I guess our tastes and experiences will inevitably vary.

If anyone is going to be around for the first two weeks of january feel free to drop me a pm.

Junior"

Junior, I wouldn't say that I was totally disappointed in Centaurus, I was just really trying to say that for the premium price and their upfront pricing policy I would have expected more modelesque types in there. Yes there were many mulheres in Centaurus and yes they were muita bonita but I guess I was just looking for a movie star, maybe I was being unrealistic.

FKK Newbie
12-09-03, 19:30
Member 1121,

By the way, do you have a name? Anyways, I also went to Meie Pataca on a weekday and there was not much crowd there. I went to Help on a friday night and there was some action outside HELP. I decided to go inside and check it out. The activity inside HELP is way too grand relative to whats going outside so dont even think of picking up someone from outside if you havent checked out everyone inside. But this was on a friday night. I am not sure if this would be the case on any other night. I did want to pick up some cuties from HELP but resisted. It was almost 4am in the morning and I had been really drained by some wild cariocas earlier on. But HELP is really something and I strongly recommend you check it out. Its like an american discotheque, only much larger, with many more beautiful girls, all waiting for you to talk to them. Even if you dont intend to take them home, they are usually very friendly, are willing to talk, and get along quite well.

Good luck!

FKK Newbie
12-09-03, 19:35
Does anyone know if there are any clothing optional beaches in Rio or near Rio. Copacabana and ipanema beaches are good but the most you can see is thong action. I have read and seen in some movies that real hardcore beaches exists in Rio or near Rio where lots of wild women shun their clothes totally. I tried to find some information from the hotel guys in Rio but they didnt know. If anyone knows of any such beaches, please let me know.

Thanks.

Zidaho
12-10-03, 19:03
When to Centaurus yesterday about 4:00 what a wide sellection of beauties, it kept getting better as the evening progressed. My resistance broke down for a BEAUTIFUL blond named Sara, oh what a body, and a great kisser. We spent an hour on the sofa, fondling each other, I took her to a room, what a GREAT lay. I asked for her cell number and she gave it to me, the surprising part is that it REALLY was her number. Rested in the suanas, back to the bar a petite, brown haried girl (Tatty) approached as Sara was doing a dance on stage. Tatty was all over me, and she quickly disappeared when Sara returned, Sara and I arranged to see each other after closing. Sara had to make some rounds two seconds after she walked away, Tatty appeared and stuck her tongue down my throat, said we could get a room now and Sara would not know. We did and she was a very nasty fuck. I came back after another suana, and Sara and I were with each other the remainder of the night, I even took her upstairs one more time before leaving and meeting at the restaurant around the corner. We went back to my apartment, I just love waking up to a beautiful 24 year old, 5'6'' blond with an ass to die for. Meeting Sara (Therma name) this evening as she has the day off. She´s a University student and though I would like to think I could fall in love I realize the simple fact is she has been seeing men like me 2-5 a day the past few years. Nevertheless, she is a total pleasure machine, this girl really knows how to do the deed, pretty AND smart. What a combination! I over did it the first few days here, so I´m staying out of the Thermas today, I need to let the happy firefighter have some rest, the little guy has been working so hard he´s developing a blister from the cheap condoms they use at the Thermas. I´m going to start carrying my own lubrication and rubbers. Wow these Brasilian girls do know how to kiss and what lovers of sex, MY GOD, they make Thai girls total amateurs. By the way if anyone wants to meet for a drink or chat call me at: 8164-5230. Finally, even though Centauraus had some gorgeous ladies, I´d still rank Luomo a bit higher due to the cozy warm nature of the place and the 4-5 stunners that were there last Saturday, it was truly inspiring!

Kenn
12-10-03, 21:55
Rio de Janeiro - Rio, a city known for carnival parades that feature nearly naked shimmying women, is set to get its first nude beach.

A final court ruling in a nearly decade-long legal battle ended with a victory for people who like to sun bathe in the buff when a Brazilian court gave the green light to the establishment of a nudist beach in Abrico in western Rio de Janeiro, news reports said Wednesday.

In justifying the ruling the court cited a recent newspaper poll in which 53 percent of the people asked supported the idea of a nude beach in Rio de Janeiro.

The city's environmental secretary approved the creation of a nude beach in 1994, but opponents managed to block it in court. Even topless sunbathing remained taboo at famous beaches in Ipanema and Copacabana.

To draw attention to the ban, three years ago a woman removed her bikini top while sunbathing and was arrested for "creating a public nuisance". The event received page-one coverage in newspapers.

Kenn
12-10-03, 22:03
Sorry, here is a link with a map of where it's located...

http://www.abrico.cjb.net/

FKK Newbie
12-10-03, 22:52
Kenn,

Thanks for the information. Will include this on my next trip ;-)

David In Az
12-11-03, 03:47
I just became a member, and was looking at the photo galary. There is one woman there that really caught my attention. Her name is Alexandria from Rio De Janerio. Does anyone have any info on her. I'm planning a trip to South American, and I'd really love to meet her.

Ken_Apples
12-11-03, 23:20
2 Questions for the experts:

Hi folks!

Next time I go to Rio I would like to bring a friend that haven't been to Rio erlier, a night to remember.

As a part of that plan I would like to take him to a really good stripbar. I mean that kind of Las Vegas hi-class, true professional dancing, and drop dead beauties.

We will not go there to get some action, just to watch a good striptease show, have a drink and get in the mood for the evening. If someone of you Rioexperts know where to go, to find true performance/dancing artists, please give me an advice.

The second question:

As I do speak decent portoguese, anyone could give me some advice of where to find nice looking non-working girls in rio?

I have heard about this place called "Bedroom", but has not yet been there myself, If you got any tips on where to go to try to pick up some nicelooking "regular" girl that would be just great.

Finally, thanks to all you people who contribute to this forum, I guess its the best forum to be found anywhere on the subject.

Best Regard,

Ken Apples

Bull Dozer
12-12-03, 07:02
Kenn,

I have been visiting Rio for the past 4 years & in front of Rio Othon Palace all the hookers are walking around topless, so how or why the women who took off her top got arrested beats me.

GJ

Kenn
12-12-03, 14:28
Go Joe, I guess it was, wrong place wrong time!! I live here in Copacabana and see topless women all the time in front of the Rio Othon Palace Hotel, but only there. Now they have a full nude beach in Rio. Why? I have no idea.
I looked at the photos on their website and I would not travel all the way out there to see that. I think the women that would go there would be nothing special... Older, fatter women most likely. Also who wants to see some guy walking around in the nude.

FKK Newbie
12-12-03, 19:28
Kenn_apples,

I will answer your second question: If you want to meet (and eventually pickup, depends on your skills), goto Rio Sul Mall. It is full of nice looking local women. There are women who are hanging out in the mall with friends. There are also women who are working there in the shops. They are all surprisingly very nice looking, model like. They like to chat and are very friendly. They like flirting too. But they are NOT working women, so please be discreet. Strike a conversation, flirt and then see if you can pick em up!

Good Luck!

Java Man
12-13-03, 06:19
fatter women, in Rio???!!! say it isn't so!!!!! :-(
is it starting to look like the states? i may have to look for another vacation destination.
:-)

Ceylon1
12-13-03, 16:31
David in AZ

I posted that photo of 20 yrs old Alexandria in the Brasil Photo section. Of German ethnic origin, she is from a small town in the Estado (State) of Santa Catarina.

This was in Nov 2001 - she was at Termas Monte Carlo in Copacabana.
Had a fabulous GFE one night with her - never saw her again at Monte Carlo.

To meet similar looking Garotas - read my report from a few days ago on the Curitiba posting.

"Curitiba - city of Big Busty Blondes"

But this city is a 13 hour bus ride from "Cidade Maravilhosa".

Have fun in RIIOOO!

Ceylon1 (WorldTraveller aka Charles)

Ceylon1
12-13-03, 17:17
RIO - Back in "Cidade Maravilhosa" - The regular Termas & Comments !!

From Curitiba to Rio, took the ITAPEMIRIM Bus co luxury night "Leito" bus, departing at 7pm, 13 hrs journey with pit stops, roomy seats that folds down to a bed. Only R120, it also saved me the cost of a nights hotel room.

www.itapemirim.com.br

My previous 11 trips to Rio, had stayed in the Hotel Debret, and hanged round primarily in Copacabana & Centro Termas. This trip was determined to explore other areas of Rio. So from the Rio Novo Rodoviario took a taxi to-

ITAJUBA HOTEL - (21)-2210-3163
Rua Alvaro Alvim 23
Cinelandia
Metro - Cinelandia
www.itajubahotel.com.br

The clean well kept hotel situated on Praca Floriano had rooms costing $22 for the weekend & $ 26 for the other days. I arranged a package deal for 10 days at $230. Rooms were better than the standard rooms at the Hotel Debret.

The Metro stop was 30 yds away, giving me instant gateway to Metro Siqueira Campos in the Zona Sul & Metro Uruguaiana in Centro - thus covering "fun" places that I intended to visit.

In addition many a/c buses 50 yards away on Av Rio Branco, with routes going to both Av Atlantica & Rua Barata Ribeiro in the Zona Sul.

On the north end of Praca Floriano is the Teatro Municipal & also the Camara Municipal with daily outdoor stage concerts at night. Thus even late at night, the outdoor cafes on the Praca Floriano was full of people.

From the Praca, there are pedestrian only cobbled streets all the way to Av Presidente Vargas in Centro. I felt quite safe in this area.

In all my previous visits to "Cidade Maravilhosa". I had religiously visited the regular Termas of the tourist circuit in both Copacabana & Centro. This visit deceided to eliminate many of my regular Termas & to visit other sexual outlets patronised by the locals. Some of them, I had visited in Dec 2002.

So took a Metro and walked to a minor-termas that I had visited last year.
Termas 21 at Rua Buenos Aires 21. It is CLOSED. Can anyone check this out.

Walked round the corner to one of my favorites -

TERMAS 4X4
Rua Buenos Aires 44

The same fun place, it has always been. Nonstop music & strip shows in the main Boite. The upstairs Boite has been nicely remodeled since my last visit in Dec 2002.
Entrance R 50. Regular prices for drinks & 1 hour in a cabine is R150.

Soon I am cuddling with ABELINE (22yrs) from Espiritu Santo, while watching the strip shows. Later on in the cabine, she was a real GFE & it was enjoyable sexo. A good start in Rio.

On a Monday visit, there were very few clients & the many Garotas were eager to hook up with the few available men. Looking around , did not see anyone special, so kept waving them away.

Then I noticed that a 6ft tall slim, big boob copper coloured skin Negro beauty had just entered the Boite. She reminded me of a Nubian women, Could not take my eyes off her, as she slowly walked towards the stage. Noticed two other Gringo's pointing at her.
This one is for me !! - so jumped up, waved at her, walked/slided across the stage and took her back to a corner.

Lots of cuddling with TIATA (20) from Rio's Zona Norte & new to 4X4. She even exposed one boob at a time to allow me to fondle her tits as we watched the show. Upstairs it was fabuloso sexo as Tiata offered all positions and demanded that I bring her to an orgasm with a "pussy lick".

All the rest of my "fun" in Rio - and there was lots of it - was away from the regular tourist Termas circuit.

Next posting - the MINOR-Termas of Rio.

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Ceylon1 (WorldTraveller aka Charles)

Zidaho
12-14-03, 14:25
Wow the women of Brazil are awesome! Been here one week now, have not only scored with the most beautiful women I´ve seen in my life but have found it suprisingly easy to get their phone numbers then arrange to meet on the beach the next day, and when they have the night off have them til the next day, or have them come over after work, 12:30 or 2:00 am. All nighters with the prettiest ones. I'm sleeping with three women now. This is amazing. My Centauraus girl (she has the best ass in that place and the best I have EVER had) is remarkably sweeeeet! She tells me if she misses one night of work she has to fuck the next two customers for free. When the man pays the bar 150 R for the girl then she gets 100R. My Luomo girl say´s she has to pay 100R fine if she misses one day of work. They both generally are taken 3-4 times a night so they are making 300-400R a night. My Luomo girl does some work on the side as well, she generally sees 2-3 couples in a month, they she says, have become very good friends over the past couple of years. She likes to be tied up, and spanked to orgasm. I can just imagine what her couple friends are doing with her, and yet she is so genuinely wholesome I really love spending time with her. Great personality and truly FUN. I think I´ll call her now, see if she wants to play some before going to work. Ummmmm, what a body! I have extended my lease as I had planned to go to Sao Paulo for several days, geez, I´m addicted to these girls in the Thermas, they prance around like beautiful ponies, and then when I put them down, such classically beautiful bodies and faces, elegant, and yet seem to TRULY love their work.

Loverboy 69
12-14-03, 22:57
Hello,

This is my first visit in this forum and I will travel to Rio soon. I already get my ticket.

Sorry for my bad English, but I'm German and now I learn the language which opens my chance to meet “Cariocas bonitas”.

I have some questions and hope you can help me.

1. The use of mastercard in hotels, shops and especially termas:
Is it still a problem taking a copy of the cards? I mean, do they try it often to get a copy of MC during the customer pays.

2. What is a normal price for “taxi comun” when I drive for example from Copacabana to centro? What is the actual price in Vila Mimosa for 1 hour “programa completa”? What about prices at termas now?

3. In Rio I would like to drive by bus or metro at daylight. What about risk to get ripped off.

Can you give me more help, please think of your own first trip to Rio and about important things you haven't known.

Otherwise I'll try to get contact to non-professionals.

Thank you for helping me.

Loverboy 69

FKK Newbie
12-15-03, 19:55
Lover Boy,

1. MC is accepted at most places including malls, termas, restaurants etc. I am not sure if they made a copy of it or not - but what difference does it make to you? Lot of times they will ask you to write your passport number with it when you're paying because sometimes people refute the charges later. So keep your passport number handy and MC/Visa should be ok.

2. Taxis are very affordable - at most 12-15 reias from copacabana to most termas and central downtown. I am not sure about villas mimosa. Terma prices are different. For example, centaurus is most expensive with 290R entry but one girl is included. Solarium and Luomo are around 60R entry but the girl and room typically around 150R extra. So it varies, check the previous reports here for exact prices as I dont remember exactly.

3. Dont travel by metro or bus. You can get ripped off. Taxis are very cheap so its not worth it to travel by buses. Taxis will get you wherever you want to go faster and safely.

4. Other tips include: Learn some basic portugese. Almost noone speaks english there so if you want to negotiate with girls, flirt with them you need to know some portugese otherwise you will have to learn sign language.

Dont carry lot of cash on you. Leave your wallet, watch, chains and other valuables at home. Keep money hiding in several different places like your socks, shoes etc.

And dont worry its safe if you are careful. You can also read the detailed report I posted on Rio earlier - about two weeks ago here about my first trip and experience.

Good luck and let me know if you have more questions.

Member #1121
12-15-03, 23:17
FKK Newbie,

Glad that you enjoyed your trip.

I did visit HELP, so am no stranger to it. The scene inside set my adrenaline pumping, loud techno music, crowd thronging in from all directions, girls bumping into you, the little sshhh, sshhh from them to attract your attention as you walk past them, you get the scene:)

Pataca was a disappointment for me as well but next time I will visit on a friday and see whats on offer.

But the Tremas and HELP in Rio alone incite me to plan another trip there soon:)

Member #1121
12-15-03, 23:23
Ken_applies,

Barbarella in Rio is reputed to be the best strip club. The girls there are DDG- not all of course:)

It is expensive though.

Do a search on the forum for Barbarella and you will find all the info. you need.

Here is a brief overview for you:

Inside there is a stage where women dance and surrounding this is a large collection of tables. You would be lucky if you could manage to sit in a good position as the best tables for some weird reason have a reserved card for people who never showed up. Be aware there is a cover charge $35. Girls will ask up to $200 or more for an evening of pleasure. Many of the girls are quite busty and very sensual. This is by far the best entertainment (and possibly the most expensive) in town.

Member #1121
12-15-03, 23:36
loverboy69

>1. The use of mastercard in hotels, shops and especially termas:
>Is it still a problem taking a copy of the cards? I mean, do they >try it often to get a copy of MC during the customer pays.

Credit cards are readily accepted everywhere in Rio. I personally use Amex, so mastercard should be fine. In fact some places prefer Mastercard for unknown reasons.

I never saw them making copies of CC's atleast in the Termas. They are pretty professional. I personally never had anyone try what you ask above!

>>2. What is a normal price for “taxi comun” when I drive for >>example from Copacabana to centro? What is the actual price >>in Vila Mimosa for 1 hour “programa completa”? What about >>prices at termas now?

Read my treports on Solarium, Luomo, Centaurus for the rates.
In general most places charge 50 reais for entrance, Centaurus is 290reais.

>3. In Rio I would like to drive by bus or metro at daylight. What >about risk to get ripped off.

I recently came back from Rio. My suggestion would be to take a cab. They cost 5-10reais. Again I personally never went by bus as reading reports here and elsewhere people recommended not to do so.

Why do you want to inconvenience yourself in a bus when the taxis are so cheap.
I didnt catch a taxi to centro, but a cab ride from copa to the rio sul mall is about 15 reais prepaid.

Airport to Copa is about 56 reais prepaid at the airport. Prepaid taxis are slightly more expensive than the normal ones but are safer.

Here are some numbers for your reference:

Yellow Taxi 257-0684 Ouro Taxi 568-8618
Aerocoop 560-5428 Central Leblon 274-0399
Central de Taxi 593-2598 Cooparioca 253-3847
Coopsind 589-4503 Ouro Taxi 568-8618
Coopertramo* 560-2022 Coopatur* 290-1009
Royalcoop** 548-5897 Transcoopas** 560-4888
Cootramo** 560-5442 Transcootur** 590-2220
*special taxis running on a meter
**special taxis on a flat rate

MoonDog
12-16-03, 01:53
I had two short visits to Rio in November, and they were both great. Upon arrival in Rio, the first trip, on the way in to the hotel, I called a friend of mine around 11:00 a.m., and he and another friend were having lunch, and had been up all night partying. Welcome to Rio. We agreed to get together later that night.

Made a few phone calls to some of the guys on the boards, and set up a time and place to meet later in the afternoon. After a few hours sleep, I met up with a few of the guys at Alcazar and the fun started with all the garotas walking by and trying to get our attention. I had one cooing all over me when Marcia, an old girlfriend called me. She is living with another guy now, but we still keep in contract. She was wondering where I was. I told her that I was at one of the outdoor cafes with a bunch of friends. She wanted to know who, and I was honest and just told her that it was a bunch of guys that I had communicated with over the years about travel to Brazil and Argentina. This was all true, but she was worried and told me not to trust anyone, and to be careful. She was genuine, and has always been concerned for me. Right during the conversation, the little garota that was hanging all over me whispers in my ear that she is going to the toilet. Marcia hears this through the phone, and the Latin jealously immediately chimes in. Who? What? Where? Shit, I have not even done anything except have a few beers with a bunch of guys and already I am in trouble. I squeak out of that by telling Marcia that she was talking to her boyfriend who was right next to me, and that I was not playing around with the hookers. HaHa. We agreed to talk again later that night.

After four or five beers, the ugly girls were starting to turn pretty, so I decided to cut it off and head back to the hotel. I bought a swinging chair from a guy on the beach, so took that back with me, and went back alone. A friend of mine and his Argentine wife were in town, and he had called earlier to set up dinner for that evening. He called about 7:00, and we agreed to meet about 2 blocks from the hotel. I called one of the other guys staying in Rio during that time, and he joined us for dinner at the Copacabana Palace Churrascaria for dinner. My friend had been going through a divorce a few years back, and had asked me how he could meet a good BA girl. I told him to get out of his room, open his eyes, find somebody that he likes, and tell her that she is beautiful, and ask her to dinner. So now they are married. She is a beautiful girl, and has the attitude that if he wants to go play, then he can go, just to not rub it in her face. Love the Latin girls. We had a good time at dinner, and my friend and his wife headed back to their hotel, as they had an early morning get up. Marcia had called during dinner. She was fun to talk to, wanted to know where I was having dinner, jealous that I was at the Palace, wanted to know where I was going later, and warned me to stay away from the Help girls. I was smiling to myself, as she probably knew that I was going there anyway, but knew better than to ask.

Back to the outdoor cafes in front of Help, and watch the parade of garotas. They were like bees swarming, but it was hard trying to find the queen. Sort of like the low end of Café Orleans and Café Exedra in BA or Rua Augusta as far as quality was concerned. Sure you can get laid with a nod of the head, but why with these girls? As always there were some cute ones, but I was in no hurry.

Help was absolutely packed, and there were beautiful girls all over. It is a turn-off though when they start pushing themselves on you, and start talking about money right away. I spotted a girl next door, a very ordinary girl, not the best looking, sitting all by herself, and after a few times around, sat next to her to just relax. Some small talk, led to her moving closer, and the only negotiating I did was to mentioned that I wanted her for all night. She agreed, and off we went. For a girl so ordinary in looks, she was a 10 in performance. Fantastic round, sleep, wake up early morning, just touch her naked butt right next to me, and it starts all over again. She left at 10, and I went back to sleep until around 2:00.

A large group of the guys were going to meet at the Terma Loumo that afternoon, so I went down there and it was rocking for a Sunday afternoon. Met a bunch of other guys, and the girls were beautiful. Had a session with one, Sande. One of the guys that was in Loumo, was going to be on the same flight as me going home that night, but almost missed it. I did not see him on the flight but he caught up to me in Miami, and told me he got on at the very last minute. Something about seeing his girlfriend and getting delayed………..haha. Sound familiar?

The second trip, on the weekend after Thanksgiving, was a great time as well. I met a lot of the guys that I had been writing to over the years, and it was good to put a face to the name.

Got in on Saturday, and had lunch with a few guys, then headed to Alcazar and met up with a few others. Headed back to the hotel after that, and caught up with a Garota walking in the rain. I offered her my umbrella to walk under, and she accepted. We came to the hotel, and as she had said that she was just going to go home and watch TV, I offered to have her come up and watch mine. She smiled, and said ok.

She flopped on the bed and cuddled up, then told me that I wanted sex. I said that she wanted sex. She laughed, and said $300. I laughed and said for her to pay me $R150. She laughed and said that is only $50. I told her that is what I had. She said, “Ok.” Fun girl, and I saw her in Help later that night.

My co-workers and friends and I had dinner at the restaurant right next to Help. I had been there before, and it was good to go back again. We then walked downstairs to catch the action outside Help before going in.

I no sooner was walking out in front of Help when a very pretty Garota, Mary(photos below), looked and smiled at me. She said something in Portuguese, and I bent down to ask her to repeat, and she gave me a real soft kiss and a nice touch on the arm. I thanked her, and went to join my friends before going inside. I love Help, very much like Love Story in Sao Paulo, only about four times the size. Good music, beautiful girls. There were a lot of hard bodies trying to get my attention, but every time I walked by Mary, she would plant a giant lip lock on me, and focus those eyes on me as well. Attitude is 90%, and so I went with the percentage, and she was great. We got back to the hotel around 0300, and didn’t get up until about 3 the next afternoon. Lunch at one of the outside cafes led to a walk on the beach, then back to the hotel until about an hour before I had to leave. She was fantastic. Just before I came, she would take the whole load in her mouth and suck out every last drop. Awesome. Never a word even discussed about money. She is from Sao Paulo, and will definitely see her again. She was not a 9 or 10 in looks, but definitely in performance and in the heart. Great girl.

Rio is always a good time in a very relaxed atmosphere, and hopefully I will get a chance to get back soon. It was good to meet up with the many of the posters from the various boards, and all are great guys.

Enjoy the life gentlemen,

Moondog

FKK Newbie
12-16-03, 19:39
Member 1121,

Do they have private rooms in Barbarella or do you have to take the girls home for full service? Is it like a terma setup? You seem to have lot of information on Rio, how many times have you been there?

FKK Newbie
12-16-03, 19:39
MoonDog,

Nice report!

Ceylon1
12-17-03, 01:32
RIO - Minor Termas. Locals know where...Garotas available at "reais" pricing !!

PART I

A listing of secondary/minor Termas that I visited for "fun". The vast majority of the clients at these places are locals. Some of these Termas hardly see an "estrangeiro" (foreigner), maybe except the odd Portuguese speaking ex-pat in Rio. So speaking basic Portuguese is helpful.

Most are street clothes Boite type places, a couple with robes.
Cleanliness range from acceptable to contamination - ie, narrow dingy cabine with unchanged sheets. But in all of these minor Termas, I discovered Garotas of "Gem" quality range upto 8. Many are young Garotas from small towns in the poverty sticken NorthEast, fresh in "Cidade Maravilhosa".

REPEAT visits to Termas, that I had visited during prior trips.

TERMAS 502 - (21) - 263-3428
Rua Alfandega 65
Centro
Metro - Uruguaiana

Building at corner with Av Rio Branco, walk up to the 2nd floor.
Entrance is R10 and this includes a coke/beer. Payment for sexo is upfront.
From the 4pm opening to 5pm, there is an "Promocao" - 2 Garotas for 30 mts for R90. At 430pm there were only about 10 Garotas. Garotas are mainly Mulattas & Morenos with an occasional Caucasian. A few younger ones, but most about 25 yrs plus. Grades stop at 7, with a rare grade 8.

Just before the "Promocao" was over for the day, I made a politically correct statement in black & white. With FERNANDA (20yrs) & BEATRIZ (26). Upstairs were acceptable rooms with showers. Both Garotas did a "fake" lesbion show, pretending to lick each other. Sexo was average, they did not seem to know how to co-ordinate the act as a duo. Back in the Boite, by 630pm it was crowded with clients, a strip show & a better selection of 25 to 30 Garotas.

TERMAS PALACIO 53 - (21) - 552-4047
Rua Orlando Dantas 53
Botafogo
Metro - Botafogo

I had visited this place about 3 yrs ago. From Metro take a taxi.
Small local Termas in a quiet side street. This is a "robe" Termas.
Entrance is R30 with 40 mts with a Garota costing R90 in a cabine. A 1 hour session is R120.
Boite had a good selection of 12 friendly Garotas with a few of them grades 8.
Soon I am cuddling with BIANCA (21 yrs) who wants to be my "Namorada" (lover) for the next hour. At this Termas you can go with your Namorada to the sauna for some "sweaty" fondling & BJ, before occuping the room. Bianca was active in bed, sexo was quite enjoyable.

TERMAS BEACH GIRLS aka PEDAGIO
Rua Barata Ribeiro 370 - 2nd fl.
Copacabana

Again about 3 yrs ago had visited this Termas, then known as PEDAGIO. Never went back due to lousy rooms & low quality Garotas at that time. Termas has new clean rooms & the selection from about 12 Garotas at about 630pm was acceptable.
Entrance R40 and 45 mts in a cabine costs R110.
Stayed some time in the Boite, as I wanted to see all the available Garotas who were trying to make me select them by putting their hands inside my robe.

Finally relaxed with CAMILA (20yrs) who was busty & friendly with lips for kissing & BJ's. Good fun times with a "3 holer" Garota.


TERMAS COPACABANA - (21) - 257-2172
Av Copacabana 583 - #203
Copacabana

Couple of prior visits, both to this Termas and the other across the corridor at # 204.
Free entrance, street clothes, 45mts with a Garota costs R80. There were 7 Garotas in various stages of undress & I was the sole client nursing a Coke with a blond stunner by my side.

ISADORA (19yr) calls over her pal JULIA (21), both Garotas are recently arrived from Belo Horizonte, both kissing me with enthusiasm. Suggested that I take them as a "duo" for an hour, agreed R200 for both.
Took a bath and had to walk out with a towel wrapped round the family jewels in front of some of the other Garotas. As soon as the door is closed, Julia starts kissing Isadora with such an frenzy & enthusiasm that I just looked on in anticipation of what was to follow. It was an great threesome & I was hardly able to keep up with them. Garotas informed me, that soon they hope to be working at an regular turist Terma.

Next posting - Part II

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Ceylon1 (WorldTraveller aka Charles)

MoonDog
12-17-03, 04:09
Ceylon,

Great reporting. Good info.

Thanks Charles,

Moondog

Rio Regular
12-17-03, 07:39
Loverboy,

Everyone has covered most of the basics. I did want to cover the use of a credit card. I have been to Brazil/ Argentina over 50 times in the past 5 years. My number was stolen pretty frequently at one time. It has stopped. Usually they will run the card right in front of you. You can ask to go with the waiter to have them run your card. It is never a problem. I still use my card everywhere I go. If you use your card in the termas there is sometimes an extra charge. Some termas make you pay cash for the girls.

Rio is like any other major city around the world. Keep your eyes open. If you are traveling alone look for some friends to go out with at night. There are always plenty. We come in all sizes shapes and colors so just find some one with a kind face.

In front of the Othon Palace hotel in Copa you can always find a lot of girls to look at and many travelers. There are also many travelers in front of the Ceasar Park hotel in Ipanema. In both places make sure you check the prices for the chairs and drinks before you order. They can get expensive if you do not.

Good luck and happy hunting!

Kent747
12-17-03, 09:35
Rio Report - December 2003

I just got back from Rio yesterday. This was my third visit to Rio. I am not a much of fan of Help (too many mulattas and too much of hustle and bustle kind of atmosphere; just my preference) nor the street scene in Rio (too many TVs and weirdos). I pretty much stick to Termas and Barbarellas. Here are some of my impression of various places I've visited this time. I also included my opinion of money and hotels in Rio:

Centaurus - Still has the most number of good looking garotas. Located in Ipanema near Arpoador. They do charge a bit more than other termas (must play R$ 290 to get in which includes the girl; if one does not take a girl, there is no refund). The annoying R$ 20 tourist tax is included in this amount (to me this is a BS). Also, they will rip you off in exchage rates if you pay in US $. For the tourist tax, I just swallow it and I never pay them in US $. They are definately to take advantage of tourists. There are one dark skin dude (usually work the earlier hours between 4PM to 10PM) and two middle aged women who usually come in later. All of them are not much of charmers at least (not very polite nor customer friendly).

The facilities haven't changed much in last three years. IMO, their facilities need to updated soon to keep the "most posh" terma image as they show some signs of wear and tear. Centaurus is OK for Rio standards, but they are a dump compared to some of Sao Paulo places.

Most of girls at Centaurus have good attitudes with few not so great. Performancewise, I would say about a half doesnt really get into the action (they just wants you to finish the trick ASAP) and the other half GFE. My first awesome terma experience was at Centaurus about three years ago (with a blond bombshell Marcella - I wish she was still there) so I have some fond memories of this place. Also, the half who does GFE keeps me going to this place. Centaurus is open from 4PM to 3AM Mon-Sat (Sun closed).

I would say this place gives you most choices amongst Termas as far as beauties in Rio, but YMMV depending on who you are with.

L'Uomo- Located in Copacabana at Rua Sequia Campos in a big shopping mall. Doenst have as many girls as Centaurus. The facility features a small sauna area (it is no big deal since I hang around the bar area) but rest are pretty well decorated and maintained. The regular cabanas are bit small for my taste. The bar area IMO looks more clean and organized than Centaurus. The girl at reception does speak good english and is pretty helpful. Lookwise, L'Uomo is a bit behind Centaurus. Everytime I went to L'Uomo, there are only about 3-4 girls who I would consider 7 or above (those 3-4 are enough for me to come regularly). Most do perform GFE and almost always they make me feel like you are welcomed. I would recommend to get a bigger room (I think it cost about 70R more) since the regular rooms are like closet size. I think the entrance fee is R$ 40 and R$ 130 for girl in a regular room (you pay when you leave unlike Centaurus). They do close early in Sat and Sun at 12AM (open 7 days).

Overall, this is a place to be for Rio and is a very solid place.

4X4 (quatro por quatro) - Located in Centro on Rua Buenos Aires. Since they are in Centro, 4X4 is more of place for local businessmen. They have a big facility but is very disorganized and is somewhat run down IMO. I have never been in 4X4 until this trip. Since there were some positive reports about this place, I decided to go there for the first time. The reception do not speak english well. I think cost is similar to L'uomo level. They do have many selections with few beauties. IMO not as many beauties as Centaurus. Most girls do perform well, but distance from Zona Sul and my preference to other termas make this place second tier level IMO. Also, not as many english speakers as other termas (none of girls could even speak basic English).

An OK place IMO, but not up to L'Uomo, Centaurus, and Solarium.

Solarium - They are located in Jardim Botanico area (the other side of the Lagoa). There some nice bars in that area (more of local yuppie kind of places). Similar size to L'Uomo and a bit worse selection of girls than L'Uomo IMO. I did not see anyone who can wow me in Solarium, but there are some attractive ones. The girls were not initiating much towards me (none approached me two times I went there). Cost is bit more than L'uomo but is lower than Centaurus (pay when you leave; only Centaurus makes pay up front). The cabanas are decent size (about same as Centaurus). The girls I were with did perform well, but not a killer experience I was used to in Brazil.

Overall, they are decent but there are better ones in Rio.

Barbarella - a Boite located near Ave. Princess Elisbeth near Lido side of Copacabana. More of upscale place than Help (waiters with bow ties, someone to open car doors, etc.) but smaller and cozier. Normally about 50-80 girls working. Some are stunners but mostly 7-8's. It costs about R$ 50 if you dont take a girl and few drinks (about R$ 100 with a bar fine). Most girls will ask 300-350 R$, but most will take around R$ 250. This place is for take out only (no rooms on presmise). This is very much a YMMV place, so makes sure the garota looks like the passionate kind. Very few mulattas and mostly garotas from southern Brazil or Minas Gerais.

Overall, this place presents a different atmosphere than termas but must watch what you get since the quality is much more inconsistent than termas.

Money - If you pay with US$, you will get ripped off often. I always pay in Reais. Since C/C fraud is big in Brazil, I would only use for hotels and emergencies. Since cambios at best gives you about 2.8 reais for US $1 (real current rate $1 = R$ 2.94) so you lose 5% unless one use an ATM (Citibank and HSBC will take most major ATM cards). Usually, I just exchange about us$40 in airport (located 3rd floor of the international terminal for taxi money) first than go to Citibank or HSBC near my hotel. There are some freelance taxi drivers at the airport when you get off the plane who are trying to rip you off. You can either go to an airport taxi booth (not the regular yellow cap) which charges a bit more than regular metered taxi. The taxi fare should cost you about R$ 40- R$ 50 to Zona Sul. So make sure to take metered yellow cap outside the airport terminal.

Hotels - Generally speaking, ones by beach are more expensive. If you are really budget conscious, ones off the beach are cheaper. In Copacabana, Debret is probably the best deal for beachside hotel. However, most of Debret's rooms dont have ocean views. Ones with views does cost extra. Regular rooms are bit small for my taste. Also, Rio Roiss is near DEbret but do not have rooms with ocean views. Many like Rio Roiss for location and value. Both are more of budget hotels. They are most part clean and efficient. There are upscale ones like Marriott, Sofitel, Copacabana Palace, and Rio Othon, but they are US$200 and up. Hotels like Miramar Palace and Luxor Regente are not quite that expensive but will run about $100-$150 per night. Many upscale ones wont allow garotas in your rooms. Debret does charge extra for girls.

If you dont like hectic atmosphere of Copacabana, there are near by Ipanema and Leblon. There are good number of hotels in this area but not as many as Copa. Mar Ipanema was very disspointing when I did stayed there (not by the beach, on a noise main street, and rooms were old; checked out after one night). I have heard Praia Ipanema is dissapointing also. Caesar Park is very upscale place and Sol Ipanema is reliable but not cheap (about us$120 a room). This time I stayed in Marina Palace in Leblon. This is more upscale than Debret or Rio Roiss caliber hotels. Marina Palace do not include breakfast always so one must deal with them to include breakfast. I did book my room though Utell (travel agency for mostly business clients) which included breakfast. The hotel is nicely decorated and has computers with internet access for extra charge. All rooms have ocean views and are bigger than most other hotels' rooms. They are girl friendly. Leblon is more of residential area than a tourist area which makes the area more peaceful. However, Leblon is a way from Copacabana which makes you spend more for taxi. Overall, I liked Marina Palace and Leblon. There are Parthenon accor hotel (same street but not by the beach) and Leblon Palace (located on main street about two blocks from the beach) in Leblon area.

Still, Rio is a blast compared to US. Speaking Portuguese makes the trip a lot better though. Even my basic portuguese made this trip more enjoyable than previous ones. I still would recommend Rio to other mongers.

Rio Bob
12-18-03, 02:54
To FKK Newbie

About your question if Barbarellas has rooms or not or is it just takeout. It is just takeout, the place used to have the best girls in town and you will pay more. Can be a fun place, at times I have gotten on stage with all the girls and danced with them, had a ball. At times I have left with 2 garotas, I love when the waiter comes over with his pad and tallies up how many drinks you have had and asks if you will be taking both girls home tonight.

I don't go much anymore to Barbarellas as they eventually all end up in Help at some pount anyway. When I was there last week, I had been talking to a girl I had been with before and she said look over there is a friend of mine who works in Barbarellas, do you want to have a 3 some with her. She was stunning but I had an all nighter the night before and a 3 some wasn't in the cards and I regret it but I found a very nice mellow garota dezoito anos who was absolutely superb.

The night I left Barberellas with 2 when I was in the elevator with the 2 blonds I asked then how old they were, one said 21 the other said 19, as soon as she said 19 I had to kiss her it was such a turn on. 2 is great but it is alot of work at 3 in the morning but fun as hell.

Bull Dozer
12-18-03, 05:08
MERRY CHRISTMAS

Everybody out there. I hope Santa puts lots of GOOD LOOKING PUSSY under the tree for you.

Anyone headed to Rio after Christmas, will be in Rio on Dec. 29 thru Jan. 5th would like to meet WSG mongers. May be arrange a little party of our own. Please PM me.

Go Joe

FKK Newbie
12-18-03, 19:49
Rio Bob,

Thanks for the information. I guess I will have to check out Barabarella on my next trip to Rio. Last time I got too busy with termas. Besides I had the impression that Barbarella was a strip club and would not be much better than strip clubs here in US. But it is wrong. Even strip clubs in Rio are much better than ones in US, just like the girls are.

Are there any strip clubs in Rio though that are ripoffs that one should be careful about?

Thanks much,
-FKK Newbie

Member #1121
12-18-03, 21:37
FKK Newbie,

Barbarella as pointed out in earlier posts just has to go:) girls, nothing to be had there. They are expensive though. So since you have already tried the termas, you're not mising much by not going to Barbarella.

Of course if you are interested in a strip show and stuff like that definitely check Barbarella out.

Member #1121
12-18-03, 22:00
Kent747,

Great report. Seems like you had a decent time overall.

>>Centaurus - The annoying R$ 20 tourist tax is included in this >>amount (to me this is a BS). Also, they will rip you off in >>exchage rates if you pay in US $. For the tourist tax, I just >>swallow it and I never pay them in US $.

Yeah the tourist tax is annoying, but I just look at is as one entry fee. Reais 20 is not that much so I didn't mind it one bit.

Also the experience there more than made up for the tax surcharge:)

I found this place to have more English speaking girls than LUOMO or Solarium


>>Solarium - I did not see anyone who can wow me in Solarium, >>but there are some attractive ones.

I would echo the same sentiments here.

>>The girls were not initiating much towards me (none >>approached me two times I went there).

I observed the same thing there. Although in my case , 2 girls approached me and my buddy and stuck to us for a good 45 minutes or so. They were least attractive but were definitely wild in their foreplay. They really tried hard to please us but we decided to skip.
Most of the girls just dance by themselves looking at the mirror, but if you initiate eye contact with them they will be on you.

Other girls just sit on the couches next to the entrance upstairs and just mingle amongst themselves.

Not knowing Portuguese was a hindrance in the pleasurable land of Rio, so I am glad you knew basic stuff and had a good time.

Hotel Debret charges a guest fee of Reais 60 .

Rio is definitely recommended. The scenic beaches and the wild girls at the termas would make your trip one to remember.

Ceylon1
12-19-03, 01:01
RIO - Minor Termas - locals know where Garotas available at "reais" pricing

PART II

First visits to the following Termas -

TERMAS 75 - (21) - 510-1097
Praca da Republica 75
Centro
Metro - Central

Walked in at 530pm on a Wednesday, streets full of people, dicey semi-industrial neighbourhood, one side of street is large park.
Get a pass from the security and go up the stairs to 2nd fl.
Entrance R 15 with coke/beer. Loud music, bench round the large boite, about 25 Garotas, mainly Morenas & Mulattas, average age about 25 yrs, grades 7 with a couple of grade 8.

For research purposes, deceided to check on the quality/cleaniness of the rooms, down a narrow corridor.

Enlisted ANDRESSA (24yrs) morena from Petropolis as my sexo guide for 45 mts at a cost of R70. Sexo was above average with a good rapport between us.

Rested in the boite untill about 730pm, down the stairs & the street is now semi-deserted and dark, with a forbidding looking park across the street. Stayed about 20 mts with the guard, untill a taxi finally comes along. Dont think that I will go back.


STELLAS MASSAGEMS - (21) - 2510-4280
Rua Santa Luzia 405
Cinelandia
Metro - Cinelandia

Walked the 4 blocks from my hotel, took elevator to 4th fl. Floor has about 10 apts, but no sign as to which is the "fun" place. A door opens and a young lady walks out with a baby, she asks if I need any help. I managed to utter the word "massagems", with a smile she leads me to the correct door. ONLY in Rio !!!

This is a cheapo - R30 for 30 mts - room with bed, the same bed sheets since last year. Pay upfront & I bribed the mamasan with R7 to put "new" sheets. Total of 7 Garotas, a good choice.

ANITA (19 ) from Estado (State) Paraiba was my choice. Soon realised that this was top quality GFE with a slim cute new comer to sexo. So kept her for an hour, paying the extra charges. Would have liked to get her outside, but she was being housed in the Termas. I regret that I did not go back to this Termas, as one another Garota was also a "gem".



HOLLYWOOD MASSAGEMS - (21) - 2251-5737
Rua Carioca 59 - # 501
Carioca
Metro - Carioca

Area near the Metro is a open pedestrian area - Rua Carioca is a crowded dingy commercial street. At dimly lit # 59 take the elevator to 5th floor - 2 apts per floor, both belong to the Termas.
Another cheapo place at R 30 for 30 mts - same lousy bedrooms etc. But I am doing this for research purposes, so enter the Termas.
8 Garotas, again there are "gems".
I take SARA (24) who is quite friendly in the room with good sexo. A Garota who enjoys her work.
Did not go back, but there were other quality Garotas in this cheapo Termas.

Next posting - Travesa de Ouvidor 37

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MoonDog
12-19-03, 16:48
Good information,

Thanks Charles.

Moondog

Zidaho
12-19-03, 21:46
Wow Charles, those are some great reports!! It is nice to know about the out of the way Thermas/Massagems. Therma Copacabanna, it´s just a few doors down from Blockbuster Video. Thanks for the tip. I stopped in a few hours ago and took a lovely 21 year old, about 5'8", cute I´d rate 8. Lovely firm breasts, though she could not speak a work of English she had a tight body, an OK kisser, and a perfect ass, with classically beautiful legs, fingers, toes. NICE! I was beggining to wonder if I would ever bottom out inside her she was so tight! Cost with a beer and 10R tip to her, was 105R for 30 minutes. Decently clean place to go for a simple quickie here in Copa. Thanks, I´ll check out some of the other places you mentioned, nice work, wish I could meet you in person!

Went to Monte Carlo day before yesterday. The Mulatto I had was pretty but I´d say in general the place was lacking something. The girls seemed cold and distant for some reason, just didn´t seem to be any spark. I like to see the girls walking around, talking with each other, and generally prancing themselves in their pretty high heels and thongs. MC seemed too dark and distant, I don´t know maybe it was the time late afternoon. Yesterday I went to Thermas 65, around 4:30, wow I can see why the seniors suggest hitting this place earlier, there were a ton of business men streaming in. The facility is definitely a step down from Quatro, but I really like the fact they have a drinking fountain and a dinning room on premises. I have been carrying a large bottle of water inside my small daypack now, along with astroglide and USA condoms, the ones the girls bring to the room are too thick, lack intimacy. I have been getting telphone numbers of the girls and then arranging to meet in the afternoon for lunch or beach. The Thermas make the pleasure of sex so much more civilized!! Someone on this board said they were invented by GOD, I think so!

I'm in the mortgage business in the States. Whatever goverment can put together a residential lending market in Brazil will most certainly be elected the next three of four terms. It´s practically impossible for most citizens to ever own and difficult even to sell REAL property for anything other that cash. No primary or secondary mortgage structure here. I can understand why some of the girls develop a mercenary attitude towards cash!

Starfe
12-19-03, 22:13
Are there any new termas that have opened in rio in the last 6 months?

Thanks in advance,

Starfe

Leo
12-19-03, 22:14
guys, don't exchange dollars at the airport at a shitty rate, just so you can spend on an overpriced taxi to get to copa and then use the atm!!

just use the atm at the airport! all the atms are the same (for a given system - e.g. star or cirrus).

don't spend more than R30 for a taxi, unless you have privately booked taxi, or unless you realize you are paying a premium for some reason (assuming meter=1 times of day/year).

Zidaho
12-20-03, 21:29
Therma Beach Girls is closed. I walked around on the second floor where it´s suppose to be, looks like it was recently vacated. So late this afternoon, I went back to the Therma Copacabana and took an attractive 26 year old, her ass was a little big but she was cute and eager, I´d rate a 7.5 overall. Good value. I sort of like the unpretentious nature of the smaller Thermas. I think several of the Centaurus girls I´ve been with act a bit snobby.

I met my girlfriend Raphael from Luomo at the beach today, she´s fun and we enjoy teaching each other our language and just hanging out with each other. I enjoy going to Luomo and watching her work the room, during the course of a night she regularly has 5 guys, I think she´s just intuitively smart, knows how to quickly get a guy very interested. She tells me she REALLY enjoys her work, I believe her.

Meeting Malu from Therma 65 this evening. It´s her day off, we are getting a drink maybe something to eat. I love Rio, it´s so easy to have fun with a female companion!!! I may be falling a little bit in love with Raphael, such a refreshing charm about her!!

Kent747
12-21-03, 17:19
Leo,

Can you tell me where the ATM machine (which takes cirrus or star) is located in Rio international airport? If I would've known that they had an ATM machine with cirrus or star, I would've used it. I remember that they had Brazillian bank ATM machines (which most of them do not take cirrus nor star), but not ones with Cirrus or Star.

Also, taxi fares would be a bit different depending on your destination. For example, Leblon would be a bit higher than Copacabana due to distance. If traffice is good, sometimes taxi fare would be around R$ 35. I've never seen R$ 30 with a meter (I took the same route about 7 times).

Ceylon1
12-21-03, 19:23
RIO - Travessa de Ouvidor 37. Now...its a Boite, iso "4 floors of *****s" !!

Dec 2002 this "edificio" (building) in a pedestrian cobbled street in Centro - "4 floors of *****s" & the other floor was suites for rent.

Previously there were 4 "casa's" in this building & the best was Stylus Massagem on the 3rd floor - where there was about 10 very acceptable Garotas at any given time.
Mongers would take the elevator to the 5th floor & oogle some of the topless Garotas on the walk downstairs.

STYLUS MASSAGEM
TRAVESSA DE OUIVIDOR 37
Centro
Metro - Uruguiania

Now its only Stylus Massagem on the 1st floor.
( other floors are cabins/suites/?? )
Entire 1st floor is now a large Boite, with a bar - and the younger Garotas with perky boobs going topless and the rest of the Garotas in bikinis.
Open 11am to 7 or 8pm. Mon - Fri.
Coke/Beer is R3 - benches round the room, where you can talk/fondle the Garotas a little. Payment for sexo is upfront.

Cabine - R 30 for 25 mts.
Suite - R 70 for 40 mts
Suite - R 100 for 60 mts.

First visit walked in about 1pm - much impressed with the lineup of perky boob topless young Garotas.
Purchased a coke at the bar , walked up to a topless Garota, gave her the glass & invited her to share the coke with me.

Blond BRUNA (18yrs) was a lithe stunner with protruding perky boobs.
Great sexo - 40 mts in a suite, althu she did not have much sexual skills being new to "programma"

Next 2 visits, my eyes went only towards the topless Garotas - one look, a smile & they were at my side.

A Morena "duo" of SARA (20) & CARLA (19) in a Suite for 40 mts was the next session the following day. These Garotas are friendly and enjoyed offering all positions.

A few days later - there was only 3 topless Garotas in the Boite when I walked in about 230pm. Walked up to the smiling threesome - inspecting the perky boobs on display - unable to deceide, which boobs to fondle.
It was time for an 1 hour of debauchy in a suite. - negotiated for R290 + a couple of free cokes.
BRUNA & SARA was joined by ISABELA (22) - the Garotas gave a star performance.

The "cannon" was primed, inside each Garota, but fired only with Isabel. Participating in the "fun" with these young girls had me completely out of breath, that I went back to the hotel for the rest of the day.

Next posting - Casa's in Rio's Centro.

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MoonDog
12-21-03, 20:52
From Ceylon!


Next 2 visits, my eyes went only towards the topless Garotas - one look, a smile & they were at my side.

Thet seems to work everytime.

Thanks for a great report,

Moondog

Rio Bob
12-21-03, 21:10
Fkk, About Barberellas,

If you have never been to Barberellas then you need to go at least once in your life if you are going to be in Rio. It's a Boite(night club) near Princess Isabella Blvd where there are other Boites of the same nature, for example Franks Bar and others. Barberellas has always been considered the best, more classy and with the best reputation for girls. I have been in there and have seen dozens of 9's and 10's and I have been in there and saw just many average beautiful women.

Go there, get a table and hang out, watch the show, watch the gogo girls as they are available for take out. Not all the girls take their clothes off and do gogo some just walk around and at times they all get up on the big stage and dance so that everybody can see them, they put themselves on display.

What is interesting about the gogo girls is that you can see them with their clothes off before you make your choice. Its also a different thrill if you live in the states as the gogo girls for the most part are not for takeout unless she likes you of course. Here in Barberellas if you like the gogo girl, invite her to sit with you, buy her a drink and leave with her.

Through the years I have pulled some real beauties out of Barbarellas and had some great sex. And it is all very easy with a much better selection per capita than Help. Even though I enjoy Help very much, I always find a nice one in Help and I enjoy the atmosphere of it having the illusion of being a real dance club. And I remember when Help was a real dance club when it first opened in the early 1980's, I went in their with my friend and the girls were as snobby as Nuth is today, there were no working girls in there well at least I didn't see any. Actually I didn't realize Help was the best disco in the world until I read the WSG archives in 1996 and have been a fan ever since.

Trippleecks
12-21-03, 21:19
Barberellas is a RIP-OFF club, if you ask me. It's nothing more than a tourist trap. 50-60 reais to enter and that gets you 1 drink. Another 50-60 reais to take a girl out of the club. Then you have to pay the girl 200-300.reais for a few hours.
If you like overpaying then by all means hang out there.

Rio Bob
12-21-03, 21:33
NODD_N

Yes you are right about Barbarellas, it is more expensive to party there but all I was saying was that you should see it once. Just like on my last trip in all the years I have been going to Rio I had never been to Centaurus and I went and Im glad I had the experience.

I haven't been to Barbarellas in about 3 years for the most part I just strictly go to Help now with during a 10 day trip I go once to a termas and get one escort delivered but Help every night unless I meet a non pro normal girl then I go to the normal clubs with her.

There are many different ways to do Rio and everybody does it a little different and it is all good.

Java Man
12-21-03, 22:47
Ceylon1
love your sense of adventure. i, like you love to go off the beaten path. i take it you can speak portuguese well.
a few questions though:
where are you finding these clubs/termas? in the yellow pages?
in travessa de Ouvidor 37 are you in street clothes? did you take any pics?
i return in 31 days, jan 21, and will follow in your footsteps.

Trippleecks
12-22-03, 12:05
rio bob, my post was not aimed at you. it was just a statement for the members in general.
i have a pet peeve about places like centaurus and barberellas.
i always try and discourage people from going to either place. maybe if enough tourists boycott both places they will treat us better and try and ripp us off......

Bull Dozer
12-22-03, 13:35
I am trying to find out what Newspaper do the girls advertise in Rio, is that also a good source to find girls, I know there are plenty of PROS in Rio right now, will be there on the 29th anyone interested in hooking up send me a PM.

GJ

Rio Regular
12-22-03, 16:42
Barbarella does have some of the prettiest girls in Rio along with Centaurus. After coming to Brazil for 50+ times I know the regulars and am always looking for new talent there. At this point I never take a girl out from there. I usually stop by say hello to the girls and let them know I will be in Help later that night. They always come to Help. The drink may be expensive but it pays great dividends. This season (new years to carnaval) all the girls at the clubs and termas are up for ANYTHING. So it is a great time to go fishing and meet them on the beach or at help. PARADISE!

Member #1121
12-22-03, 21:28
Nodd_N

Barbarella is certainly overpriced- no doubt about that, but the entry fee of 50 reais is nominal for that is what most fo the termas like LUOMO, Solarium etc.. charge.
Centaurus charges 290 reais but that includes a girl and the rooms in Centaurus were much better than Luomo for example.

Still agree with you that Centaurus is overpriced as well. I would say 200 reais would be more like it for Centaurus. (Other termas charge 50 for entry + 120 for the girl, so a total of 170) Since Centaurus is reputed to have some of the hottest brazilian girls, I belive they use that to their advantage and make the big bucks.

I personally liked Centaurus and had a great experience there. Also found that a lot more girls speak English there than other termas. Did you have any negative experiences there?

Thanks

Ceylon1
12-23-03, 00:11
Moondog - Muito obrigardo for positive comments from the Guru.

Zidaho - Glad my reports were usefull - couple more reports to follow on Rio. Maybe we will meet some day in "Cidade Maravilhosa"

Chingon - Travessa de Ouvidor is in street clothes - Garotas did not wish to be photographed. I have limited basic Portuguese language skills. Visited "Cidade Maravilhosa" 14 trips in last 5 years, so have an idea where to go . My next report will indicate how I found, some of the cheapo casa's.

Ceylon1 (WorldTraveller aka Charles)

Playboy
12-23-03, 09:59
A lot of Thanks to : Go Joe, Kenn, Zidaho, Ceylon1, Nodd_N, Chingon, Rio Bob, MoonDog and all Fellow Mongers who contribute to this forum.

I found this site very educational in early last year and went to the carnival. Been there 7 times since, love it.

Moving down to Rio for good in March, April next year, so will post all interesting material. Also getting ready for a short trip to Sampa and Rio jan 14-29. Any body wanna hook up for drinks - welcome.

Happy Mongering!

Zidaho
12-23-03, 14:44
Yesterday afternoon went to Stylus Massagem per Charles, in Centro, about 1:00 pm. Made it just in time to pick on the most doable ones before a pack of business men can in. This place is a step above Therma Copacabana, and the price is about 30R less. Therma Copacabana opens at 11:00 am Tuesday - Saturday. It´s fast and cheap, and not much of a place to hang out!!!

Met Raphael from Luomo for late afternoon lunch yesterday. I like her. Went to Centaurus last night about 7:00, what a nice collection of talent!! And the guys there are interesting to talk with and trade stories. Stayed til closing about 3:00 am, and somehow managed to fire off three rounds with three very different and very gorgeous girls. I'm going to give my self another chance at Help this week, I think after two weeks here I may see (understand) the garrotoas in a different light, as I was not favorably impressed with the place my first night in Rio. One thing which strikes me, for the most part, is the wholesomeness of the girls who work in Luomo and Centaurus. They really do seem to enjoy their work, and they genuinely want to please!!! I just about passed on the third girl in Centaurus when she came on to me, because I was so tired, though after she offered her cute, perky 22 year old little ass to me. I just couldn't say no. The second one, Mila, leggy, firm, and classically beautiful white skinned nordic looking blonde, was simply a phenomenal kisser. WE happened to be standing next to each other watching 4 girls doing a strip show, after making eye contact a few times, and smiling at each other, I asked her name, she proceeded to put a lip lock on me that I will never forget. THis girl loves to kiss. Lucious thick lips, wet and soft, on an innocent looking mouth that holds a wickedly tempting tongue. I´d like to marry a woman like this just to kiss her every night. Geeeez, and the first one prior to Mila, was the cutest little mulatto, with absolutely breathtaking large round perky tits, and but a couple of ass cheeks that I could entirely cover/hold in two hands. Probably ony 4´10´´, I changed my technique starting with her, now I just lay back and let them do all the work of getting me aroused for the first 10 minutes, then put them on their back and let my tongue explore the size and shape of their clits, and while I´m doing some clit licking and nipple stimulation they juice up and are soon ready to fuck. They all seem to appreciate having their clits licked. After various positions I wind up with the money shot in one position or another, then if there is time I massage their lower back and feet which they absolutely love. The girls remember me, I believe, as someone who they pleased and in return they were paid and touched gently and in the end it felt good tobe with each other. Such is the sex life in Rio!

Java Man
12-23-03, 17:41
playboy:
moving to Rio!! what a concept!! :-) how does one do that?
i'll be there jan 21-feb 1. :-D
i wanna check out ceylons recommendations in centro.
send me a PM

Truant
12-23-03, 19:43
A friend of mine bought a Help girl a laptop for Christmas. Just because she threw a fit when he took her shopping at Rio Sul and she saw it in the window and "mentioned" if she would like it, she said yes, he said just kidding, then the pressure on him never stopped until he gave in. I couldn't believe it.

She doesn't know the first thing about even starting it up. The Reis$5,000 he spent on it may as well have been flushed down the toilet. I warned him before he took her shopping not to go overboard, he assurred me he wouldn't, but this girl has very persuasive powers.

Guys, I can't emphasize enough: You have to disengage your dick and engage your brain, especially when dealing with these sharks at Help on a business transaction (which is all it is). There is no love involved. These girls have nothing but their sexuality definitely no education, no manners and no concept of the real world.

I wouldn't be surprised if this girl sells this laptop on the street for less than half of its value.

Just be careful down there and don't get sucked into whatever it is that's in the air. Yeah, they're sensual girls but nothing else. No sense of responsibility, time, the future or the real world. Brasil is still a third world country. And these girls are second rate citizens.

Member #1314

Ceylon1
12-23-03, 23:59
RIO - Cheapo casa's on the....busy streets of Centro !!!

In addition to the well known Termas - downtown, Centro has a multitude of cheapo casa's open during daylight hours for the sexual "relax" of the Brasilian male.

You may have noticed handbills being offered in the older sections of Centro & Cinelandia - grab them !!!. Most are junk adverts, but occasionally it is information on a nearby casa. Many of the casa's are low quality, dim places for a quickie. But in bed with a "gem" additional time can always be purchased.. Many Garotas are "over the hill" both in age & shape. But quite a few are fresh in Rio, recently arrived from the poverty sticken NorthEast or the interior of the state.

Where do you get these handbills - exit Metro Uruguiania - you are now in the Mercado Publico (Public Market).
Between Rua Uruguiania & Av Rio Branco, from Rua da Alfandega to Rua 7 de Setembro. This is a crowdwd area with cobbled stone pedestrian streets, walk around and get the handbills.

RUA DO OUVIDOR 130
Centro
Metro - Uruguiania

This high rise building has many casa's - but they open & close. Thus just collect the handbills to see which casa's are open on the day of your visit. Take the elevators to -
( I had visited both these casa's on previous visits to Rio ).

Suite # 707 - this casa had 3 Garotas, all from Fortalesa on the day I visited.
R30 for 30 mts in a small cabine, with a bed / bedsheets not up to a high standard.
CHRISTINA (23yrs) was the only possibility, sexo was acceptable, she was friendly witha good attitude.

Suite # 911 - walked in on 5 Mulattas, with a coke in my hand. LUANA (19) from the Estado (State) Bahia asked me for a drink, while running her hands down my pants.
R30 for 30 mts in a cabine with the walls not up to the ceiling. Same lousy bedsheets etc, plus the "sounds of sex" from cabines on either side.
In bed Luana was GFE, so extended my time to an hour of sexo with a friendly Garota.


RUA BUENOS AIRES 85
Centro
Metro - Uruguiania

Handbill introduced me to this building for a first visit. Elevator to 4th floor. Casa with very dim pinkish lights, dam loud music with about 10 Garotas, and at least 3 of them in the dim light looked grade 8.
R30 for 30 mts - same lousy cabin, bed sheets etc.
Went to cabine with CLARA (23) - she was friendly with a great body & large firm boobs. But it took me a long time to get adjusted to the dim pinkish lights and the loud music.

Walked into the elevator to get down - closed the door, but now the dam elevator does not work or move. Finally managed to get the door opened and walk out. I am still on the 4th floor. Walked down a narrow circular winding steel stairwell with another client.

Noted that the 3rd floor is also a casa, open door had Garotas waving at us. But at this moment, my only thoughts are to safely get out of this building.
Outside, I pick up another handbill - the 5th floor too is a casa.
Never did go back to this building - but the 3rd-4th-5th floors are Casa's.
This "edificio' (building) needs to be further investigated.


RUA SENATOR DANTAS 117
Cinelandia
Metro - Cinelandia

Yet another handbill makes me take the elevator in this commercial building to Suite # 441
Cabine R35 for 30 mts - collection of 6 Garotas - 2 are "gems" worth sexo.
JULIA (20) said that she was from Estado Segipe and will return home in another couple of weeks. Had a 30 mts "farewell" party with her in a cabine.
Did not have time to revisit this casa.


RUA CARIOCA 59
Carioca
Metro - Carioca
Same "edificio" with Hollywood Massagem on the 5th floor.
( see my report on the "Minor Termas..." )
Each floor of this building has 2 apts.
3rd floor - # 301 & # 302
4th floor - # 401 & # 402
These are separate casa's - knocked on doors & walked in on these four Casa's.
Nothing worthwhile for me to drop my pants - did not partake.

I picked up another 6 handbills relating to mongering, but did not have time to investigate. Unfortunately I threw them away.

Next posting - With Agency Garotas in a love motel

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Ceylon1
12-24-03, 00:10
Playboy

Lucky-Lucky you - moving to the Garota, Nirvana of "Cidade Maravilhosa"

In order to get a non-working Brasilian resident visa ??

a) - is there an age ristriction
b) - minimum $$$ per month
c) - is a permanent resident allowed to own a Condo / Apt
d) - what about Brasilian Health Insurance.

Por Favor - let us know.

I too had toyed about moving to RIIOOO - but concerns re a major heart problem has kept me sadly back in Chicagoland.

Ceylon1 (WorldTraveller aka Charles)

Hobbyists
12-24-03, 01:25
Hi guys,

will be back in Rio third week of january - Anybody are welcome to join chasing non-pro as well as pro garotas. PM me

thanks

Rio Bob
12-24-03, 02:23
Go Joe:

Check out this Rio newspaper the classified section you can find where the girls advertise if you can understand Portuguese:
http://odia.ig.com.br/

Some of the ads have links to websites with pictures and other interesting things.

Rio Bob
12-24-03, 02:26
Go Joe,

Another newspaper that used to be good is O Globo which you can get a copy when you get to Rio. The website used to be good but now they require a sign up:

www.oglobo.com

Bull Dozer
12-24-03, 04:41
The countdown is on 5days & 15 hours more to go for Dec.29th, before I will be at 4x4, with 2 garotas.

Anyone wants to join please PM.

MERRY CHRISTMAS


Go Joe

Playboy
12-24-03, 05:34
Chingon, Hobbyists,

I will be happy to meet up and chill. My main concern this trip is to find a suitable long term housing to move in to in march, I'm bringing a 150 lb puppy ( not a typo ), so it would be a little difficult to find a nice place that would allow my little horse, but we will se.

Ceylon1, I do not have much knowledge about certain things there, however my Wife who is Brasilian, knows all about living there and she left home for the hollidays, so I will get back to you with all the answers as soon as Feb.'04 sorry for the delay...

As far as I know now, Med services are best to none, I went under the cosmetic knife there for 5hr and I paid 1/5 of the price of the States, had a 24 hr nurse who got off the chair any time I lift a finger day or night !, also nice huge private suite with big TV, nice facilities and the famous warm, Brasilian attitude from all the hospital staff, made this a great experience.

Happy hunting to all,

Cheers,

Playboy.

Super6stud9
12-24-03, 05:58
Best website in Brazil

The best website to look for pussy in Brazil is

www.contatos.com.br

Most of the girls are based in Sao Paulo. The quality and quantity is just astonishing.

I always remember help disco in Rio de Janeiro too. Great spot to party, and fuk.

Brazilian women fuk the best, bar none.

Boozer
12-24-03, 06:05
Rio Report - December

I am a frequent visitor to Rio and been guided by this board thanks to some great reports. Since I had a pretty active trip I thought I'd try to make a contribution in return. I was on business in Sao Paulo (see SP section) and managed to arrange my travels to spend three days in Rio on vacation at the end. In my previous times in Rio, I had progressed from the boate scene (Frank's and Barbarella's) to the termas (Centaurus, L'Uomo, Solarium, and 4x4 - my personal favorite), and an agency that I found (Utopiasex) that has a madam who answers email. I've never had the urge to spend time in Help, maybe some day... This time, I wanted to sample some other agencies and contacted one of the locals that rents an apartment and provides some 'guide' services. My Portuguese has not been good enough to order up escorts by phone (I've tried unsuccessfully in the past), and the hotels I stay at make it difficult or cost prohibitive to receive multiple guests during my stay. While I was again staying at a 5 star hotel (Sofitel), I wanted access to an apartment for fun instead of going to love motels (and dealing with potential language issues in those places in addition to the agencies).

Day 1 - L'Uomo: I arrived late on a Thursday night, after checking into my hotel realized it was too late to go to my favorite terma, 4x4, so I grabbed a cab to L'Uomo, arriving about 11pm. My previous experience there a few years ago had been less than stellar, only CBJ and not a great selection. However, this time was much better. I sat at the bar to review the talent (about 20 girls, mostly 7s and 8s), and was soon approached by Marina, a Carioca with about an 8 body who soon convinced me to spend some quality time in a cabine. She was very talented (BBBJ, DFK, DATY) and I enjoyed the session. By the time we were done it was around 12:30, I took a shower and went back to the bar. She did not return, and I spent a few minutes with Suzy, a petite blond who did her best to convince me to return before I left town.

Day 2 - I called the local contact I had been emailing (known on another board as Brazil Specialist, BS here for short). He told me to come on over when I was free. I headed over to his apartment in Copacabana around noon. It is a penthouse about 2 blocks off the beach, no ocean view but a nice outdoor patio. He has two rooms for rent, at $35 - $50 per day. The rooms are soundproofed (very nice when you have vocal guests), and he has lots of toys (wireless internet access, US phone line, various vibrators and sex aids) to play with. He was there with another monger awaiting a local madam and some of her girls. I wanted to see an escort from Cassia Scort, so he made a phone call for me. In the meantime, a visitor named Adrianna showed up. Adriana is a semi-pro who has a day job but is available for appointments for $R150 for 2hrs. She was about 1.65 m tall, very thin, 19yrs old and olive skinned. She had a small chest but a great ass, both of which she allowed me to inspect up close. I agreed to meet her the next day at 9am. We exchanged phone numbers and she went off to work. At that point the madam and her girls showed up. I was interested in one of them but already had a date, so I passed. A few minutes later Barbara from Cassiascort showed up. She was a bit bigger than I expected but had a great chest and we spent the next two hours pleasuring each other (BBBJ, DFK, multiple positions for FS). The total cost was $R130 (including $R30 cab fare) - a good start.

BS returned with monger #2 and we all went to a local madam named Claudia. Claudia's is located not far from L'Uomo termas in a fairly run-down apartment. I was introduced to a line-up of six ladies that ranged in looks from 5 - 8. I ended up choosing two, Joyce and Daisy, to take back to the apartment with me. The cost was $R320 for both for 2 hours. Joyce was 20 yrs old, about 1.58m tall, with dark red hair, perky A-cup breasts, and a great bubble butt. Daisy was 18, 1.60 m tall, with black hair, full lips and C cups, also with a great butt. We retired to the sound proofed room and spent over two hours of non-stop fun. No lesbian action, just both of them taking turns pleasing me (BBBJ, DFK, DATY and multiple position FS). Joyce was an Energizer bunny, whether she was DFK, BBBJ or in FS, and Daisy was more laid back but a slightly better match for me physically. This was the best threesome I have had (all were in Brazil) and much more relaxed and cost effective than a termas (even 4x4).

Day 3 - I had an early wake up call and got to BS apartment at 8:30am. Adriana showed up at 9am exactly (shocking in Brazil), she was very energetic but overall a notch down from my ladies the previous day. After Adriana left, BS mentioned that Claudia had a magazine cover girl at her place who was a bit more expensive than her regular girls. She was just over 18 and had been in the business about two weeks. I was interested so tagged along to see for myself. At Claudia's I was introduced to M, who was at least 1.75m tall with curly black hair, big brown doe eyes, full lips and a killer body (C cups and a nice ass). Unfortunately I had another appointment at my hotel, but I arranged to see M at the apartment later in the day. While at Claudia's, I spend some a few minutes getting reacquainted with Joyce and Daisy, who sat on either side of me in the foyer and convinced me to see them again the following day.

I went back to my hotel for an appointment with Paloma from Utopiasex. I never speak directly with this agency, I just email the madam (Malu) using translation software. My other two experiences had been excellent in previous years, so I had high expectations. Malu tends to have semi-pros who are very good looking and affectionate. Things were a little different this time. First, Paloma was 25 mins late (my other dates had been exactly on time). Then, the hotel socked me with a $R150 'guest' charge (this had not happened to me previously). Paloma matched the photos, about 1.70 m tall with an outstanding butt and great legs. She also had nice features. However, she did not DFK or BBBJ. Most of the 2 hours were spent either DATY, giving her a massage, or chatting. By this time I was running out of steam, so it wasn't all bad. I chalked it up to YMMV. But the only below par experience I had in Brazil this trip.

I hustled back to BS apartment to meet with M. At Claudia's apartment, M was dressed conservatively and was a bit quiet. In my soundproofed room without any clothes, she was aggressive and gorgeous (at least a 9.5). While I haven't yet seen her magazine cover (she was supposedly a cover girl for a Brazilian Teen publication), she certainly was pretty enough to have done that. She had broad shoulders, firm natural breasts, a very narrow waist, and well-proportioned hips. She led me to the shower for a very steamy session that included mutual oral stimulation (she did not care about getting her long curly tresses soaked!) then back to bed for multiple rounds of BBBJ (with full eye contact throughout) and FS, with DFK and massages during quiet times. We went through 4 covers and she was still riding me after 2 hrs and 20 minutes. The entire session cost $R310 including cab fare. I saw her ID, she will be 19 in March 2004 and was using her real name, clearly new to the business). This was without doubt the high point of my entire trip and possibly my entire hobbying experience (7 years or so). After the session she had to catch a bus home (she lives with her family).

I got back to my hotel and collapsed, at this point I thought my member was going to fall off!

Day 4 - Woke up and called BS. I wanted to see M again but she was not going to be available (bad time of the month). So I asked to see Daisy and Joyce again. He called Claudia and asked for them at 9:30. I headed over, and sure enough, they were there at exactly 9:30 (unreal by Brazilian timekeeping). Even though I was on my 'last leg', we had two great hours of fun including two releases on my part. We had borrowed a small vibrator from BS and put it to good use. Joyce offered to marry me and both asked for gifts when I returned to Rio.

I relaxed for a bit then headed back to my hotel room to recuperate. I considered going to a termas in the afternoon but I was too sore to consider another session before heading for the airport. All told, I was on the ground in Rio for 70hours and had 17 girl-hours of time (7 sessions with 7 different ladies) for an average of about $R130 (or $44) per hour including the separate apartment and the fine at the Sofitel. At a minimum, that's a 75% discount from what I could get in the U.S., and that's without giving full credit to M (who would probably get $500 - $600 per hour at an agency in the States). Certainly the most bang for the buck I've seen yet (I'm nowhere near as adventurous as Charles!).

My usual preference is for girls in the 21-25 age range, but in this case the 18 - 21 crowd distinguished themselves extremely well. The point is, each visit to Rio can be a new experience if you want it to be, the variety is enormous and the majority of it is a great time. Enjoy and be safe!

Sterling V
12-24-03, 06:59
Ceylon1,

Thanks a lot for the info on the Centro casas. I'll be back in Rio in January and your timing couldn't have been better. It looks like I have some exploring to do.

Sterling

Sean EZ
12-24-03, 09:30
Hey Ceylon1,

check out www.brazzil.com/forum

there you'll find a lot of posts with similar visa, work, etc questions - i.e. not sex related stuff.

Hobbyists
12-24-03, 23:08
Playboy, iahnrt, Chingon let's meet

How about at sushi restaurant across 4x4 (real cheap and good)

Btw has anybody been to termas 61 (rua acre - a plain clothes termas) close to 4x4. It's used to be free entry but two months ago - charged me 10 R for entry fee (two drinks) the girls are low level but who knows - and several blocks in the same street there is also a local termas - has anybody been there?

Playboy
12-25-03, 01:02
Boozer,

It looks like you had a blast, I would be really interested in services of BS, please advise on the contact info.

Hobbyists, I will be in Rio on the 21 of jan. and sushi sounds great, how about the 22nd or so?

Peace out,

Playboy.

Sterling V
12-25-03, 01:03
Hobbyists,

I checked out Terma 61 a couple of times back in May. It was a R10 entry back then too. Like you said, most of the girls are not top tier but there are certainly gems to be found. In fact, the first time I went, with four other mongers, we all had amazing sessions. As we walked into the downstairs bar area the garotas cheered like we were rock stars. Unfortunately, when we returned a few days later it was dead. Disappointed, we to have a quick beer and hit the road.

Well, in the time it took to drink our beers, the place filled up with garotas. I think they all hang out in the back when it's quiet. When word went out that there were fresh dicks in the house they all touch up their make up and poured into the bar. My advice is to give the place about 15 minutes before you write it off.

Overall, the place was a great surprise for several reasons.

1. These girls may not be stunners but they definitely try harder. Every guy who sessioned there came back stunned.

2. The rooms are large, have queen size beds and showers.

3. Sessions are cheap and available 10 minute increments starting as low as 20 minutes. If I remember correctly it was R60 for 30 minutes and R105 for an hour. A short cheap session is a good way to "sample a girl".

4. Best of all, the girls are available for take out. In fact, two of us took girls home the first night and I went back a few days later and got mine for another all nighter. The first night I heard my buddies paid R190 for the whole night (R150 for the girl and R40 for the club). But when I took my girl, the club only charged me R40 so I slipped her R150 when she left the next day. Also, when we left the club together, I asked her when she needed to be back. She just shrugged and said "whenever". She was in no hurry to leave either. We had dinner, a sessions, slept all night followed by a morning session, went out for breakfast, another session and then finally put her in a cab around 5:00 the next day.

I'll be back in a couple weeks. I'll definitely be checking out Terma 61 again.

Sterling

Castillo
12-25-03, 04:18
Fellow mongers,

I will be in Rio Dec 27 thru New Years with a pal or two (who doesnt chase much pussy). I can't wait to sample the Rio scene. Anyone looking for a wingman? I am 31, boyish, good looking, ready to do some serious fucking of some 18-25yo ladies.

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Java Man
12-25-03, 07:06
hobbyists:
i was a termas 35, it's in centro, not far from 4x4. i don't recall the address. it was a small termas, all locals, portuguese spoken only. the garotas were 6-7 range. not many to my liking, however, this loira came up to me and began to flirt. she wasn't shy about reaching under my robe either. when i checked beneath her panties she was wet. meedless to say, i was sold. the cabine was sub-par, but i wasn't there for the accommodations.
she gave me a PSE, all that was missing was the lights and camera. :-) everything was available. one of the better sessions i've had in brazil. i still get a smile on my face, thinking about it.
sure, i'ld be glad to meet ya. when you gonna be in rio?
you can PM also.

LOS Traveller
12-25-03, 16:10
Hi,

I am getting ready for my first trip to Rio on Jan 21. Although a frequent traveller to Asia, I decided to take a quick four night Rio jaunt.

I would enjoy meeting up with others who might be there during that time. I don't know where I am staying yet -- must work that out next.

PM if you would like.

Bull Dozer
12-26-03, 03:16
Guys,

Can you send me the Tel # for Brazil Specialist as I will be in Rio on 12/ 29th, would like to do some serious mongering. Lets meet, send me a PM.

Happy Holidays

Go Joe

Boozer
12-26-03, 06:42
Playboy,

The email for BS is: 1234567 at innocent.com. I found him to be pretty responsive. You won't have the view you showed in your trip report, but if he gets the trees on his terrace you could replicate your party at his place.

I certainly had three days to remember, I'm pretty sure I couldn't have survived one more session - well, maybe ONE more ;-).

Enjoy every minute!

Bull Dozer
12-26-03, 07:42
Sterling,

Please can you PM me the address or directions to Therma61, I would appreciate it.

GJ

Playboy
12-26-03, 18:05
Gang,

The first anal (I mean annual : )) mongers of the world convention in Rio will be on or about 22 jan in Copa.

For registration and info, please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.

Happy hunting,

Playboy

Nvr2L8
12-26-03, 21:50
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. Can anyone tell me if Viagra is still available pretty much "over the counter" in the pharmacias? What do you have to pay, and for what dosage?

Also, does anyone know if Levitra or Cialis are available?

Heading to Rio the first week of January, until mid-February. If any of you fellow mongers/punters want to get together, send me a PM.

Rio Bob
12-26-03, 22:08
NVR2l8,

The last time I was in Rio I went into a pharmacy and had a chat with the pharmacist about what is obtainable over the counter and what is not. Viagra is obtainable over the counter no problem for R$100 for 4 at 50mg. Cialis is available for 4 pills for R$120. You may be able to pay more or less depending upon your negotiating skills as I do not know if they have an official price or not.

Pyara
12-27-03, 01:50
Boofer

Great report.

Pls keep it coming. Do you have any pictures to post?

Which places you specialize ?

Pyara

Junior
12-27-03, 15:41
I will be in beautiful Rio from jan. 3rd and for a week. If anyone is interested in some Terma visits PM me.

Brazil Fan
12-27-03, 17:36
Herewith I would like to ask if someone can give more information about where to find older girls in Rio?. I mean with older 40 to 50 years old. What are the bars or spots to find and meet them, or are the regular places mixed up with young and older woman. Many thanks for the information !

Brazil Fan

Stinger
12-27-03, 21:59
Hi everyone,

In Rio for the second time. Has been raining during the last day. Staying at Marriott on Copacabana Beach. I walked down toward Help intending to go in for the first time. Had only 109 Reals, so I went around the corner to a Brazilian ATM. The machine ate my card and since it was Friday night the security guard said no one would be there until Monday, so I was out of luck. I do not do credit card cash advances because of the interest rates, wife suspicion, etc.

So I headed back to Help with two choices: go in, have a few beers, and go back with no action, or try to pick someone up outside Help and go back to the hotel. By the way, Meae Pattaca had no one there at 11:30 PM. There were women between the Marriott and Help that were trying to flag down cars, but most were nasty.

The outdoor eating area outside Help had a lot of women but they were all in groups of 3 or 4. There were a couple of women that were walking past Help toward the Marriott, which is about 4-5 blocks away. I started walking back toward the Marriott just to see if anything would develop. I spotted this cute girl in extremely tight clothes wearing a large white leather hat in the style that Stevie Wonder wore in the 70s. She was extremely slim and had a beautiful ass and long black hair down almost to her waist. I swung by her and stopped at the next corner and she came up and started talking to me. She knew broken English and said her name was Erica and wanted to know if I wanted some company. I asked how much- she said 200 Reals. I told her about my card and she said 100 would be OK to go to my room. We walked to the hotel, signed her in and went up. She looks like a mix between black and asian as she has a slightly flat face and asian eyes. She had small tits and large extended nipples. She was also very shy and giggly. Though I did not ask her, she was probably 20 and fairly new to the business with no hard edges. She told me she was from Sao Paolo and I thought- why am I not surprised? the best and most beautiful women IMHO are from Sao Paolo! She was talented in bed but only wanted to give me a CBJ but that was OK. The highlight of the experience was fucking her doggie so I could see that beautiful ass and pull her long hair!, which she loved.

Maybe next time I will make it to Help or Luomo. I take whatever life and circumstances give , so maybe it was meant to be that way last night.

Rio is rocking today getting ready for New Years. Lots of partying near the beach around bars. A great happy place!

Nvr2L8
12-27-03, 23:42
Apologies again for something off-topic. Any suggestions on the best place to buy or rent a cell phone in Rio? I'm staying for about 6 weeks. In the past, I've rented one, but I suspect that it might be cheaper to buy one for that length of time.

Thanks in advance.

Blunderer
12-27-03, 23:57
Quoting Hobbyists:

10) Know "street fight" martial arts

Cripes, so you want eveybody to know you think you can fight do you?

Whilst I haven't seen or done it all yet by any means, I have never found myself in a situation where the common good would be better served by my taking a swing at someone - a smile and hasty retreat strikes me as always being the safer and happier option.

I for one take no comfort in the idea that there are people like you wandering the streets. Bad enough that some folks get a bit wound up when they have had a couple too many to drink, sickening when they spout this tripe sober.

Java Man
12-28-03, 00:49
Nvr2L8:
i bought a phone at Rio Sul shopping center this past summer. it cost R259, which was $88 at the time. i buy the minutes at just about any newsstand, or convienece stores.. some internet cafes also sell minutes. your're gonna need a local to buy a phone, btw. just like here in the states, you have to show a current ID and provide a local address in order to buy a phone. (my phone is in my Rio GF's name.) on my last trip, i had to re-register the phone for some strange reason.
a phone can be rented for R15 a day, at most travel agencies. also some rental apartments include a free cell phone.

Hobbyists
12-28-03, 05:39
Nvr2L8:

it's cheaper if you just bring your own phone -- get a cheap phone like Nokia 5120i (TDMA 800/ AMPS or 8260 (DualBand / TriMode TDMA 1900/800 and Tuned AMPS ) -- and just get the phone number; if you have GSM dual band or tri band (even better quad band) then just buy the chip about 12 dollars. They probably ask a local address/id but I got away with just my passport. (I also bought a phone in Fortaleza - they did not even ask a local address there).

Kinesics
12-28-03, 16:21
Nvr2L8,

In addition to Hobbysts comments (which is correct), as you may know, these phones are known as GSM phones. GSM phones are activated through a small piece of card (known as SIM - Subscriber Information Module) installed in the phone.

Most of countries outside of US (except Japan and Korea) are using one or more GSM carriers using dual band at 900 Mhz and 1800 Mhz so the GSM phones should be able to compatible with these bandwidth.

In US, GSM has been increasingly deployed (AT&T, Tmobile, Cingular) using 850Mhz and 1900 Mhz. Therefore, if you can get a GSM phone (known as tri-band) supporting 900, 1800 and 1900 Mhz, you are all set in US and outside of US.

One more technical huddle to overcome is to get a GSM phone that is unlocked. This means the phone can take any SIM card and be worked with it. Some of GSM phones sold through the celluar carriers are locked. This means that the phone is only working with the very carrier.

If you search through the web ('unlocked GSM phones'), you will find many vendors who are willing to see you unlocked GSM phones.

I have one of those tri-band GSM phones and have two SIM cards - one from Vodaphone (UK based) and one from TIM (Brazil based). I pop in the TIM's card when I'm Brazil and pop in the Vodaphone' SIM card while in other countries.

Vodaphone has roaming agreements with about 200 countries so as long as I have Vodaphone's SIM card in the phone, people who know my UK number, they can contact me. It works great!

In summary, if you are willing to, buy a tri-band unlocked GSM phone here in US or in Brazil and buy a SIM card from in-country operator (i.e. TIM in SP area in Brazil) at about R$30.00 and then you are all set to go. Then you can add minutes per your needs.

Rio Bob
12-28-03, 17:40
Brazil Fan said:
"Herewith I would like to ask if someone can give more information about where to find older girls in Rio?. I mean with older 40 to 50 years old. What are the bars or spots to find and meet them, or are the regular places mixed up with young and older woman. Many thanks for the information !"

Brazil Fan, check out a bar/restaurant in Lagoa called Chikos Bar, plenty of women there from 30 years old to more than 50. These are non pro's going out with their friends for a night out. There are plenty of possibilities there in the age group you mentioned.



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Stinkfinger
12-28-03, 23:43
Off2Golf,

I have a GSM phone and was wondering, once you install the SIM card of the country you are in, how do you make calls? More specifically, do you retain your current phone # and do you need to use country codes when placing a call, say in Brazil? Does the same hold true for incoming calls- does the caller have to use the US country code to dial into your phone?

Thanks for any info you can provide.

Sterling V
12-28-03, 23:51
Off2Golf,

Thanks for the great info on phones. I was still wondering, do you need a local Rio address to buy a SIM card?

Sterling

Hobbyists
12-29-03, 04:53
to blunderer

chill out man, I'm glad you are never been in the country/cities/around 'fanatic' people. That it doesn't matter how you acts/nice/respect them the will still out to get you because you have different religion/believe/race/...

Have you been in a country when you have a car accident you'd better run to avoid being killed?

Do you think "a smile and hasty retreat strikes me as always being the safer and happier option" would let the american held By Farc not being captured in the first place?

I'd rather go around with people that know what to do when "talking alone" can not help.

You've been (maybe you are) in Kuala Lumpur and you speak a little 'Bahasa Indonesia' how about going to (hope you are brave enough to go to this places)
"Aceh" or maybe "Padang" or "Banten" or "Pulau Madura" to monger and get us some reports instead of flaming other member

Ropes
12-29-03, 18:53
To Hobbyist,

I have been to some dangerous places in SEA(not for mongering) and hooked myself up with a guide/driver to get to them of course. First, I am an adventurer. Second a Girl addict(all shapes and size's etc.). I agree you have to be prepared for trouble and deal with it accordingly. But its been my experience that the one's who attack you because of "religion/believe/race/" are of the minority. Its been posted before that 99% of the people we encounter are good and decent. But if you walk into an area where the "good and decent" percentile drops bellow 50%, then you best be prepared for some type of aggressive encounter. And I tell you this having been threatened and even attacked in countries like Nepal, Thailand and Burma. And these are countries I will continue to visit when time and money permits.

Now with that said. I am visiting Rio in March, and want to take pictures in the infamous favelas. Do you think it possible for me to pay one of the local bad boys to assist me on this little adventure? TIA

Kinesics
12-29-03, 20:49
Once you intall the SIM card of the Country (i.e. Brazil), your GSM phone has acquired new identity - new local
brazilian phone number. So your current phone number would not be recognized until you install the current SIM card back into the phone.

I bought and installed a SIM card from TIM (one of Brazilian GSM carrier in Sao Paulo area). My UK number GSM phone acquired Sao Paulo mobile number, let say 8111-9538. Now GSM mobile numbers begin 8 so when you see phone numbers starting with 8, it could be mobile phones.

Each mobile carrier in Brazil (or other countries) has its own access code. TIM's access code is 041.

Outbound calls
Phone calls within Sao Paulo, dial 041-xxxx-xxxx
Phone calls to Rio dial 041-yyy(Rio's city code, is 021?)-xxxx-xxxx
Phone calls to US 0041 (0 plus access code)-1 (country code)-xxx(area code)-xxx-xxxx

Inbound calls
From USA, 011-55-yyy(city code)-xxxx-xxxx
From other cities to Sao Paulo, 041-yyy(city code)-xxxx-xxxx

I'm sure whether you need a local address to buy a SIM card. One of my local staff bought me my card so I can't verify that. I would try to use hotel address if you can get away with it.

Hope this helps!

Java Man
12-29-03, 20:58
off2golf:
i did a google search on "unlocked gsm phones," and got a bunch of hits. checked out serveral site and those phones are expensive, none under $100. i did find a canadian site where they were a little cheaper. do you have a site to recommend?
thanks.

Rio Chris
12-29-03, 21:05
Go on ebay and you will find a GSM unlocked phone that is not that expensive. But most unlocked GSM phones will cost you about $80 - 100 dollars, even on Ebay.

Kinesics
12-29-03, 22:01
Rastaman,

My apology. Just wanted to assist fellow mongers. I'll refrain.

Trippleecks
12-30-03, 13:54
Hey Rastaman... Who gave you monitor rights?
If the information helps the people coming into Brazil it should be posted..

Rio Chris
12-30-03, 14:26
I agree with nodd, The info Offgolf provided is excellent.

GrabInBuns
12-30-03, 17:39
I agree with Nodd. The cell phone information is very useful. I think that it is really necessary information for the Monger to get a "hook up". We Mongers need to be well equiped for our journey into the Marvelous City.

By the way, has anyone seen this girl lately on the beach in front of the Othon. She goes by Regi. Good English. Great GFE. I lost touch with her when she emailed asking for money and I did not send any.

Paolino
12-30-03, 19:39
No doubt that it's a useful information, but maybe it would be more at home in the "general information" section....

cheers!

Nvr2L8
12-30-03, 20:18
Re: cell phones
Ai-yi-yi! Sorry guys, I'm the original poster - I should have specified to use PM or posted in the General section. I apologize. I decided to post on the Rio forum because that's where I'll be staying most of the time.

At any rate, thanks for the replies, and I hope to run into some of you when I get down there next week. PM me if you'll be there, and let's go a-mongering.

Ceylon1
12-31-03, 00:42
RIO - With CIA agency ....Garotas in a love motel !!

After visiting many cheapo "fun" places - deceided to sample the pleasures of some higher class Agency/Escort Garotas.

So phoned the agency "CIA Plus" - and with my basic Portuguese & some basic English at the other end - managed to convince them, that I was interested in a "duplo" with two "Big Busted Blondes".

www.ciaplus.com
(21) - 2525-4546

OK - they have an "Promocao" - a "dupla" for 2 hours for R240, plus taxi fare. But my hotel, in the Cinelandia area, will not allow 2 guests in the room at the same time.
Solution - the agency is aware of an Love Motel in the street behind the hotel, I am staying.

Walked into the motel -
LIPS
Rua Senador Dantas 46
Cinelandia
Metro - Cinelandia

They have rooms with jacuzzi, round beds, mirrows on walls/ceilings & other sexo aids. Booked a room with a jacuzzi etc for 2 hours at a cost of R51.
Ordered some chicken wings for nourishment, to be delivered with coke/beer on the Garotas arrival.

The Garotas arrived about 15 mts late - but they were just what I ordered, from the CIA Agency website.

LETICIA (19yrs) & EDUARDA (22) was pure nourishment for the soul. With a very good attitude & exuberance - friendly also with each other, pouring a couple of bottles of coke/beer over each other & me - during an exceptional sexo session in the jacuzzi. A lot of condoms were used up , penetrating SIX "openings" during the next 2 hours of revelry.

I invited them both for a meal on a sidewalk cafe on the nearby Praca Floriono - where we toasted each other future.

Next posting - Model photo shoot & a fashion show.

Ate logo

Ceylon1 (WorldTraveller aka Charles)

Kinesics
12-31-03, 01:24
Ceylon1,

You never lose your touch on garotas. God bless you!

You are my inspiration that I will be able to do what you do when I reach your age.

Are you in Rio now? I'm planning to be in SP mid-February and get together with Moondog, my another idol!

It would be nice for me to buy you a beer or two.

Rio Bob
12-31-03, 02:39
Ceylon1

Nice report on an escort service in Rio.

I usually use the service of one at least one time on each trip. last time, first week of December, I called Barra escort for Luciana Moura, I loved her pictures on the website. When she arrived 2 hours late. Yes 2 hours late, I was sittiing in my room drinking screwdrivers waiting for her and I fell asleep, she finally showed up but even though she didn't look like her pictures exactly, she was excellent.

She was a 19 year old college student in Leblon, when she got the page to come to my apartment she took the bus back to Barra and then back to Copacabana and it was a rainy night. I just wish they would have been honest with me about when she would get by me, I might have picked another one.

On another night I visited the famous VIP's on Ave. Neimeyer with a girl I met in Help at about 4 in the morning. For some reason we didn't feel comfortable in my apartment so I suggested we go to a Love Motel, VIP's. Its a great place, nice rooms, blasting stereo, mirrors all over, porn on the TV, I had a ball till 2 the next afternoon. I would love to do that at least once a week but unfortunately I don't live in Rio.

MoonDog
12-31-03, 16:55
Ceylon1,

These garotas keep us all young. :) Thanks for the series of great reports, and looking forward to the next installment.

Moondog

Sunset Strip
12-31-03, 21:37
Someone recently mentioned a Monger convention to take place in Jan.

I cannot find the post. Can someone let me who the poster was so I can PM him?

Thanks

Rio Bob
01-01-04, 01:52
Hey grabinbuns

Where did you take that picture of Regi?

How much money did she ask you for to have the GFE?

How much money did she ask you for over the internet?

That sand and water looks kind of clean to be in front of the Rio Othon Palace, must have been a great beach day, I have never seen it that clean.