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Fun Luvr
10-20-18, 01:22
Thanks.

All sounds fine:

Airport cab 70 k (24 $) - assuming it is flat rate, and these take cash only. So will have to use ATM at Airport, shouldn't be an issue. There is some mention of shared taxis. Is that a practical option?

Distance to airport is indicated as 10-12 miles, so 24 $ is not exactly cheap, but whatever.

Local Cabs - 5/6 K - 2 $ - Great. Assuming it is cash. Will carry cash bills. What kind of bills do have here: 1, 5, 10, 20, 50,100?

15 K /5 $ SIM would hopefully get you thru a week? Yes Int'l plans are costly- especially AT&T. I earlier had TMobile, it included Int'l data and text (but no voice) - Text and WhatsApp would work fine, but other data (incl Uber) would be crappy. So any local vendor for would be fine? Claro is indicated as good provider?

Bancolombia /12 k per tran. Sounds OK.

Here I come - 27th - 3rd. Anybody else?

Sam.Shared taxis from the airport is not a viable option. You have to wait for two or three other people to share the ride with. Another option is the bus. It will take you to Medellin for 9,500. Then you can get a taxi to Poblado from the bus stop for about 10,000. If you decide to take the bus, ask which bus goes to San Diego. Travel time to / from the airport is 45 minutes to an hour, depending on traffic. So 70,000 is not bad because that includes the toll.

Bill denominations are 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, and 50 K. There are few 1 K bills because they are being replaced by a coin. Try to get small bills. From the ATM's, you don't have a choice. You will get mostly 50 K bills. Taxi drivers and local restaurants will probably not have change for a 50. In and around Medellin, most ATM's are attached to a bank. After getting the 50's from the ATM, go inside the bank and change some of the 50's for smaller bills. Most restaurants around Parque Lleras can give you change from a 50.

The minutes / data you get with the sim card will probably not last a week. You can recharge it for any amount you want. Claro is probably the largest carrier, but any of them are good.

JjBee62
10-20-18, 02:50
Thanks.

All sounds fine:

Airport cab 70 k (24 $) - assuming it is flat rate, and these take cash only. So will have to use ATM at Airport, shouldn't be an issue. There is some mention of shared taxis. Is that a practical option?

Distance to airport is indicated as 10-12 miles, so 24 $ is not exactly cheap, but whatever..It's closer to 30 miles to the airport. The trip takes about 45 minutes. Outside of the airport there's a big sign with taxi rates to all the nearby cities. Unless you want to sit and wait for 3 other passengers, just to save a few dollars, the shared taxis aren't worth it. Ask the taxi driver how much, before you get in the taxi. If he quotes more than 5 k over the posted rate, go to the next one.

The minimum local taxi charge is 5400. The meter starts at 3300. Chances are, most trips will be under 15 k.

Colombian currency:

Coins- 50,100, 200,500,:1000.

Bills- 1000,2000, 5000,10000, 20000,50000, 100000.

Although not sure how many 100 k notes are in circulation. Break 50 k bills whenever you can. Use smaller bills for taxis and smaller restaurants.

SIM.

About a block away from Hotel Poblado Plaza is KTronix, an electronic store. You should be able to get a Claro SIM there. If you need to add data many small stores can do it. Just look for a sign that says Recarga Claro. All they need is your phone number.

If I remember correctly Bancocolombia has a 15 k fee.

SBTiger
10-20-18, 05:51
It's closer to 30 miles to the airport. The trip takes about 45 minutes. Outside of the airport there's a big sign with taxi rates to all the nearby cities. Unless you want to sit and wait for 3 other passengers, just to save a few dollars, the shared taxis aren't worth it. Ask the taxi driver how much, before you get in the taxi. If he quotes more than 5 k over the posted rate, go to the next one.

The minimum local taxi charge is 5400. The meter starts at 3300. Chances are, most trips will be under 15 k.

Colombian currency:

Coins- 50,100, 200,500,:1000.

Bills- 1000,2000, 5000,10000, 20000,50000, 100000.

Although not sure how many 100 k notes are in circulation. Break 50 k bills whenever you can. Use smaller bills for taxis and smaller restaurants.

SIM.

About a block away from Hotel Poblado Plaza is KTronix, an electronic store. You should be able to get a Claro SIM there. If you need to add data many small stores can do it. Just look for a sign that says Recarga Claro. All they need is your phone number.

If I remember correctly Bancocolombia has a 15 k fee.Thanks All, got these essential logistics.

Now need the plan for the main business. Lot of work left. Thanks.

JjBee62
10-20-18, 13:46
Shared taxis from the airport is not a viable option. You have to wait for two or three other people to share the ride with. Another option is the bus. It will take you to Medellin for 9,500. Then you can get a taxi to Poblado from the bus stop for about 10,000. If you decide to take the bus, ask which bus goes to San Diego. Travel time to / from the airport is 45 minutes to an hour, depending on traffic. So 70,000 is not bad because that includes the toll.

Bill denominations are 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, and 50 K. There are few 1 K bills because they are being replaced by a coin. Try to get small bills. From the ATM's, you don't have a choice. You will get mostly 50 K bills. Taxi drivers and local restaurants will probably not have change for a 50. In and around Medellin, most ATM's are attached to a bank. After getting the 50's from the ATM, go inside the bank and change some of the 50's for smaller bills. Most restaurants around Parque Lleras can give you change from a 50.

The minutes / data you get with the sim card will probably not last a week. You can recharge it for any amount you want. Claro is probably the largest carrier, but any of them are good.Pro tip:

If you're going to Poblado, catch the bus to San Diego Mall, cut through the mall to Avenida Poblado, hop on a yellow bus heading south for 2100 pesos. If you're staying within a block of Avenida Poblado, it will get you practically to your front door.

Unless you're pulling a lot of luggage.

JjBee62
10-20-18, 13:51
Prepago is the generic, reasonably polite term for prostitute. It's also the specific word used for an escort.

SoberHans69
10-21-18, 03:04
Really enjoyed my trip to Medellin.

Thanks to everyone on the forum for all the advice included on the forum.

Would love to return but only if I spoke Spanish. It's not too much problem with the girls but mostly everywhere else e. G shopping, ordering food etc.

The people are lovely and try their best to help but I felt ignorant.

The women are amazing, I've been to Thailand over 10 times and the Colombian women blow them out of the water although I still prefer Thailand due to the language and fact everything is in your face, especially Pattaya.

Really glad I came here though and hope to return in the future.

JeraldoRivera
10-21-18, 12:49
Hello all,

I'm looking for airbnb or apartments that have super fast internet. Looking in Laureles or Poblado but prefer laureles. I'm going to be playin semi pro videogames when I'm not *****shagging or eating. Thanks.

JjBee62
10-21-18, 18:22
Hello all,

I'm looking for airbnb or apartments that have super fast internet. Looking in Laureles or Poblado but prefer laureles. I'm going to be playin semi pro videogames when I'm not *****shagging or eating. Thanks.Look up Medellin Scooter Rentals online and send a message to Jenson. If it's currently empty he's got a 3 br place in Laureles with a dedicated fiber optic line. 2 routers with a solid signal throughout the apartment.

It won't be your cheapest option, but you're unlikely to find anything with comparable internet. After fighting for months with 1.5-3 Mbps speeds in Medellin, I know how unreliable the standard internet can be.

YippieKayay
10-22-18, 19:16
Since its been brought up before in our discussions:

https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/colombias-duque-scraps-personal-dose-as-part-of-anti-drug-policy/20808

Cops can now put cuffs on you for a small amount of grass or any other controlled substance you are carrying.

JeraldoRivera
10-23-18, 05:20
Look up Medellin Scooter Rentals online and send a message to Jenson. If it's currently empty he's got a 3 br place in Laureles with a dedicated fiber optic line. 2 routers with a solid signal throughout the apartment.

It won't be your cheapest option, but you're unlikely to find anything with comparable internet. After fighting for months with 1.5-3 Mbps speeds in Medellin, I know how unreliable the standard internet can be.Thanks for the intel. I have msg 20+ airbnb in both laurales and poblado and the internet situation in mde is definitely crap. Its mostly 10 mb down and 2 up on a shared WiFi only. I've found 2 or 3 that actually have modems and dedicated lines to their apartment and they are emphatically visitor friendly. I got some hilarious responses from some jokers when I asked if I can have visitors.

SBTiger
10-25-18, 18:40
Booked for a couple of days in EL Pobalado Plaza, next booking is up. Incidentally I cant find any English speaking person at this hotel- trying to make a change to booking - impossible.

Any recommended hotels in Laureles area- decent 3* chica friendly etc (the usual).

How is Hotel Laureles Plaza. Has very good reviews but is quite cheap.

Thanks much,

Nordico
10-25-18, 20:18
Since its been brought up before in our discussions:

https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/colombias-duque-scraps-personal-dose-as-part-of-anti-drug-policy/20808

Cops can now put cuffs on you for a small amount of grass or any other controlled substance you are carrying.I'm sure they can put the cuffs on anybody they want, but the article doesn't say so.

Eszpresszo
10-26-18, 03:13
Booked for a couple of days in EL Pobalado Plaza, next booking is up. Incidentally I cant find any English speaking person at this hotel- trying to make a change to booking - impossible.

Any recommended hotels in Laureles area- decent 3* chica friendly etc (the usual).

How is Hotel Laureles Plaza. Has very good reviews but is quite cheap.

Thanks much,If you are looking for people who speak English, you are in the wrong country. Somehow, being in the hospitality industry doesn't require any foreign language skills in Colombia. Colombia is a nation of monoglots.

YippieKayay
10-26-18, 03:30
I'm sure they can put the cuffs on anybody they want, but the article doesn't say so.It does in the very first two sentences:

"and a major policy decision since taking office on August 7, President Iváand Duque reversed the Constitutional Court's 1994 ruling (C-221) that decriminalized the possession of limited amounts of illicit drugs. The so-called "dosis personal" allowed individuals to have in their possession a maximum quantity of 20 grams of marijuana, 5 grams of hashish, 1 gram of cocaine and 2 grams of methaqualone without facing criminal charges if stopped by the police."

Am I missing something?

HBoy54
10-26-18, 03:43
It does in the very first two sentences:

"and a major policy decision since taking office on August 7, President Ivand Duque reversed the Constitutional Court's 1994 ruling (C-221) that decriminalized the possession of limited amounts of illicit drugs. The so-called "dosis personal" allowed individuals to have in their possession a maximum quantity of 20 grams of marijuana, 5 grams of hashish, 1 gram of cocaine and 2 grams of methaqualone without facing criminal charges if stopped by the police. ".

Am I missing something?I realize this is not the US but can president reverse constitutional court ruling?

Nordico
10-27-18, 19:56
I realize this is not the US but can president reverse constitutional court ruling?No he cannot and he didn't do that. What he did was, he signed the amended law called "Codigo Nacional de Policia why Convivencia". You can find the original from 2016 here https://www.policia.gov.co/sites/default/files/ley-1801-codigo-nacional-policia-convivencia.pdf.

The 120 pages long document stipulates how the people should behave in public places and what corrective actions the police should take, if necessary. The new degree gives the police the right to search you, seize and destroy your drugs, even if the amount is within the legal limits. Violating this law is a misdemeanor and not a felony with a fine up to COP 208,000. If you carry a certificate from your doctor that you are a drug addict, they have to give you your drugs back. What you do in a private place like your home is none of their business. Of course, like YippieKayay has said many times, the police may abuse their power and take you handcuffed to the local jail.

Oil Stain
11-01-18, 02:50
Wasn't much resistance at 3100. I read in a couple places that the Colombian government is not going to defend it. Be nice to see 3500 come into view. Oil.

Dccpa
11-01-18, 19:05
Wasn't much resistance at 3100. I read in a couple places that the Colombian government is not going to defend it. Be nice to see 3500 come into view. Oil.Yesterday, I was looking at some commodity & currency charts. Several of them (Euro, Oil, USD, etc.) were at inflection points. Today, USD & Oil down big and Euro / Other Currencies & Precious metals up big. Eyeballing the chart, COP: USD looked like it had broken above the upward channel that started mid May. The top of the channel looks like it is around 3180. Maybe this is a backtest to the top of the channel or maybe it is the start of a larger correction. Since oil has clearly broken down, I like the odds of the USD: COP drop being a simple backtest. We shall see.

Horatio
11-04-18, 03:11
I have been to Thailand and want to go to Colombia next. I want to be reading up on here. Is Bogota where I should go? Pattaya is the best place for a first timer in Thailand. Does Colombia have a similar best place?

Thanks.

Eszpresszo
11-04-18, 03:29
I have been to thailand and want to go to columbia next. I want to be reading up on here. Is Bogota where I should go? Pattaya is the best place for a first timer in thailand. Does columbia have a similar best place?

Thanks.I haven't been to Cartegena but its a beach town, tourist friendly, and might be the closest parallel to Pattaya. It is also said to be twice as expensive. I've only been to Medellin and in the past two months, Bogota. Medellin is rather entry level, because they are used to foreigners and there is much info about it here and other places. However, the popularity may be working against it. Bogota is a bit more of a challenge being a larger city, yet it doesn't see many gringos. If you are an experienced, confident monger you might want to hit Bogota from the beginning. But, the options for punting are more numerous and I felt there is more to do in Bogota. Fair warning, there isn't as much to do as in Thailand and the food is really bland and unexciting.

A few other things to know about Colombia. First off, English is not widely spoken, so try to learn some basic Spanish. Secondly, the Colombians are truly nice people, but safety is a concern there whereas you don't need to give it too much thought in Thailand. Thirdly, if you like pretty Latinas in a variety of skin tones, you will be going to the right place! PM if you have other questions.

JjBee62
11-04-18, 14:33
I have been to thailand and want to go to columbia next. I want to be reading up on here. Is Bogota where I should go? Pattaya is the best place for a first timer in thailand. Does columbia have a similar best place?

Thanks.Someone is bound to correct you, so I'll do it first. It's Colombia. No "you."

You're going to get 3 different answers. All 3 are correct from the perspective of the person giving the answer.

The answers are Cartagena, Medellin and Bogota. All of these are the best place in Colombia for a first timer. Which one is best for you, you'll need to decide.

Each city requires a different approach and has different offerings.

Aconi
11-10-18, 17:01
Hi all,

I am new to the forum, and I would appreciate if you guys can give me some general recommendations.

3 males (around 30 years) are looking to have some quality party time in Columbia for 22 days in total.

We will be landing in Bogota on 28th December, and I am thinking where to have party with some girls, on 30, 31st, 1st, 2nd.

So in terms of budget let's say it's around 300 usd per person for chicas and alcohol.

We will be taking for sure some fancy hotel / apartment so if you have some recommendations in this area as well it would be great to hear.

Idea is that all of us are going back to accommodation and have fun there if the energy with girls in club is OK.

I am experienced clubber, but Spanish skills are far away from ideal, so I would love to have like this organized, and not to play on "player" card.

Thanks a lot for the advises!

Balboa
11-11-18, 03:44
Hi all,

I am new to the forum, and I would appreciate if you guys can give me some general recommendations.

3 males (around 30 years) are looking to have some quality party time in Columbia for 22 days in total.

We will be landing in Bogota on 28th December, and I am thinking where to have party with some girls, on 30, 31st, 1st, 2nd.

So in terms of budget let's say it's around 300 usd per person for chicas and alcohol.

We will be taking for sure some fancy hotel / apartment so if you have some recommendations in this area as well it would be great to hear.

Idea is that all of us are going back to accommodation and have fun there if the energy with girls in club is OK.

I am experienced clubber, but Spanish skills are far away from ideal, so I would love to have like this organized, and not to play on "player" card.

Thanks a lot for the advises!Definitely not an ideal time for what you want.

Way better before Christmas.

YippieKayay
11-11-18, 05:41
Wasn't much resistance at 3100. I read in a couple places that the Colombian government is not going to defend it. Be nice to see 3500 come into view. Oil.The Colombian peso has a higher inflation rate than the US dollar (and plenty of other currencies). This is why, generally, each year things should feel a bit cheaper. Unless of course you over pay or spend in US dollars with the chicas. Want to save money on a 200 k fuck? Wait a year. It will be 3-5% less.

So yeah COP will break through 3100 at some point and more.

Fun Luvr
11-11-18, 15:30
The Colombian peso has a higher inflation rate than the US dollar (and plenty of other currencies). This is why, generally, each year things should feel a bit cheaper. Unless of course you over pay or spend in US dollars with the chicas. Want to save money on a 200 k fuck? Wait a year. It will be 3-5% less.

So yeah COP will break through 3100 at some point and more.COP has been above 3100 since Oct 24. COP fluctuates up and down. In Feb 2016, it was above 3400. In April 2018, it was just above 2700. Since mid 2015, it has hovered close to 3000.

Aconi
11-14-18, 00:44
Definitely not an ideal time for what you want.

Way better before Christmas.Thanks for the answer, however like I said we will be staying 22 days in total, which means that we are in Colombia until 20th of January.

Any tips, on how to organize something like this are welcome.

SBTiger
11-17-18, 21:53
Hotel: Stayed in El Poblado area. Pablado Plaza and Dunn Carlton. Both are good hotels with good locations- everything in walking distance, friendly staff. Pablado Plaza is better- friendlier staff, even though English is an issue. Chica friendly? If you book a double room they will not charge extra else they will.

SIM Card: Got a local SIM card at nearby mall. 20 K - 2 GB with 30 days talk. For some reason the text was not working. But overall it was fine.

Taxi: Was approached by some driver at Airport, I suppose he was moonlighting. Charged me 60 K. Dropped me to the hotel. Called him back for return to airport also. The going rate is 70 K, hotels can arrange taxi for 75 K.
Overall Local Taxis are cheap and easily available, I think minm is 5 K. Most trip are less than 10 K (~3 $) - so looking for Uber etc is not necessary. Peak hours traffic can be bad, and taxis hard to find.

ATM: At airport money exchange were only paying 2260/$ - crazy price. Used the BBVA ATM. It is slightly further down beyond the Banco Col ATM. And at least for me there was no commission, and excellent rate 3160. El Poblado has lot of foreign bank ATMs. BBVA, Citi, Scotia etc. They have best chance for no / low commission (and good rate). Banco Col charge 13 K commission (I think it is per transaction) - sort of high, and also not best rate.
ATMs always give you best rate, much better than CC, and of course lot better than cash exchange. In mall cash was at 2850 (so lot better than Airport).

Tourism: Not a whole lot going on. Graffiti- Meh, Sculputura in Centro- OK, Museum- Ok. Took a outside trip Guatape- it is nice (80 K bus tour all day + BF & Lunch).

Local stuff / restaurants- Paruqe lleras (in El Poblado), Parque Laureles. Lots of restaurants / bars- prices are avg. (and lots of SWs in Paruqe lleras).
Was there during Halloween - this is Very big in Colombia.

Mongering: So So- Opinions vary, YMMV, it is legal. Lots of options- Strip Clubs, 'Casas', Massage Places, SWs, etc; Prices (and quality and service) widely vary - 50 K - 300 K. Overall safe and hassle free.

Security / Safety: I never felt insecure or felt was being scammed or anything. But I stayed away from questionable areas like Centro after dark (as suggested). Discretion and caution is always advised, but overall security/safety does not seem to be an issue.

Language: This is a serious issue, 99.9% people don't know a word of English, Google translate is only way out. It is good but can only do that much.

HTH.

Fun Luvr
11-17-18, 22:20
Hotel: Stayed in El Poblado area. ...Thanks for giving back to the forum with a very thorough trip report. All those questions from you can now be forgiven. Hahaha.

GreenBud
11-24-18, 12:18
- For the girls, I'm mainly comparing Pattaya, Angeles, and Santa Fe / El Centro / Casas / Mid level strip joints. I've never picked up in the high end strip joints in Bogota or Medellin. For the exchange rate, I've used today's rate at $1=3200 COP=32.9 Baht=52.33 pesos. All this is from my memory, and limited exposure. Prices will vary. YMMV.

- Prices for marginal girls on Pattaya Beach Road is around 800 Baht ($24) for 1 hour. It's 35 K Mil ($10.64) for 30 minutes for some casas. Prices in Santa Fe is 40 K Mil ($12.50) for 20 minutes. I paid 100 K ($31) for 1 hour. Probably can get it cheaper. In the lower end, prices seem to be similar per minute. But if you want a quickie, Colombia can be very cheap for a large selection of girls.

- A larger selection of SWs is available in Santa Fe than Beach Road.

- I cannot find diamonds in the rough on Pattaya Beach Road, unless I lower my standards. Easy to find decent looking girls in Santa Fe and El Centro.

- Prices of Walking Street Go-Go girls in Angeles is around 3500 pesos ($67) for short time or long time (depending on the girl). Few cute girls, many slightly above average girls. Prices of almost top end Walking Street Go-Go girls (Palace or Tantra) is 5000 baht ($152) for short time and 7000 baht ($213) for long time. Prices for Soi 6 girls is around 1400 baht ($43) for 1 hour; most girls are average, some above average, few are cute who are hard to find.

- Not sure about the prices for the upper end strippers in Bogota. Maybe $100 and up for short time. I once went to a strip club in Zona T. It sucked. No girls dancing, few girls, expensive beers. In that Cartagena Strip Joint inside the walled city, the girl was around $100 for 1 hour plus the cost of the short time room.

- Way more selection of girls in the Go-Go bars of Pattaya / Angeles than the Strip Joints of Bogota.

- Way more fun in Pattaya's strip joints than Bogota's. In Pattaya, there are tons of girls on stage dancing totally naked. In Colombia, there might be 1 or 2 dancing on stage. They just dance, and then they get naked for a brief time at the end. Plus there are long stretches of time where there is nobody on stage. In Angeles, the girls are in bikinis, but around half the girls are continuously on stage.

- It seems easier to find girls in Colombia willing to do lesbian shows compared to Pattaya and Angeles.

- Seems Colombians are willing to do more for tips than Thais.

- Fantastic monger tools for Colombia. Nothing for Thailand or the Philippines, except for RTFF.

- Many girls in Angeles speak English very well. Generally, Thai girls speak more English than Colombians. Most Colombians don't speak English.

- Cheaper bottle beer prices in Colombia; Philippines is similar, maybe a few cents more; Thailand can get expensive. 7 Mil ($2.19) at the Trop, 125 pesos ($2.39) at Atlantis, 160 baht ($4.86) at a Thai go-go bar.

- Cheaper prices for food at the mid-upper level restaurants in Colombia than Thailand and Philippines. It can be a third of the cost compared to the US. Better variety of food in Thailand. The food at the nice restaurants in Colombia is good. Good fusion. Local Colombia meal of the day is cheap, but too hearty for me (too much potatoes). General quality of the food in the Philippines is lacking.

- Safest out of the three is Thailand.

- Pattaya is the worst for over crowding.

- Least rejections in Colombia.

- On average, Colombians give the worst BJs out of the three.

- Colombia has the best overall weather.

- Colombia has the best tolerance for drugs.

LoveItHere69
11-26-18, 05:55
On Youtube a Colombia women talked about how they spot foreigners. She mentioned foreigners wear shorts and sandals in public. Colombians usually only wear shorts and sandals at home or at the beach. I am used to the Philippines and Thailand and wear shorts all but 4 months out of the year in my country. Most the Youtube videos in Medellin where I wish to visit showed guys everywhere almost always wearing pants.

Being noticed as a foreigner can be both good (bad girls know to approach you) and bad (street beggars come running). All that I am used to.

The problem is my lack of understanding as to where this is a problem. Most countries you do not wear shorts to church or a middle class family restaurant and never a hat. I do not mind being noticed as a foreigner. But I do not want to be noticed as the asshole wearing shorts and sandals where he should not. Is it considered just silly looking or is it disrespectful of their culture?

Wearing shorts / sandals and picking up street walkers should not be a problem. Going to a disco, most sit down restaurants, or walking the Parque Lleras area at night would all be big no-nos I would assume.

Would it bring unwanted attention to a Prepagos girl from her neighbors if I wore shorts and sandals to our meeting at her place? True her neighbors probably know what is happening when guys visit all the time but no reason to flaunt I am a foreigner hooking up with her. I do not want to embarrass her. No need to start off on the wrong foot.

All the guys appear to wear blue jeans only. Never saw Docker or cargo type pants. Any reason for this?

JjBee62
11-26-18, 17:45
On Youtube a Colombia women talked about how they spot foreigners. She mentioned foreigners wear shorts and sandals in public. Colombians usually only wear shorts and sandals at home or at the beach. I am used to the Philippines and Thailand and wear shorts all but 4 months out of the year in my country. Most the Youtube videos in Medellin where I wish to visit showed guys everywhere almost always wearing pants.

Being noticed as a foreigner can be both good (bad girls know to approach you) and bad (street beggars come running). All that I am used to.I can't think of any place in Parque Lleras that would not let you in because you were wearing shorts and sandals. Maybe a few of the high end restaurants in areas around the park would frown at you.

In Medellin most people don't wear shorts and sandals because the climate isn't one where shorts and sandals are appropriate. Daily high temperature is 80-85° F, nightly lows are 56-62° F and humidity is low. If it's rainy, don't expect higher than 76° daytime.

Except during ciclovia (look it up), when I was riding my bike or walking for exercise, I wore jeans. Jeans are comfortable. Jeans are appropriate for every place I went or every function I attended. Jeans and sensible shoes made walking comfortable and people didn't notice from a block away that a foreigner was coming down the street. I took a guy wearing shorts for a walk through the streetwalkers in El Centro. One of them was very aggressive with him, grabbing at his pants. I walked those streets hundreds of times and never had anyone get that aggressive.

If you're interested in going to Medellin to pay for sex, you probably don't need to worry about being disrespectful to the culture by wearing shorts and sandals. It's a friendly city and most people will just assume that you don't know any better. There will be a few people who will be very happy to see you wearing shorts and sandals. However, I would be careful with them. Chances are, they just see you as an easy target.

The Tall Man
11-26-18, 19:59
On Youtube a Colombia women talked about how they spot foreigners. She mentioned foreigners wear shorts and sandals in public. Colombians usually only wear shorts and sandals at home or at the beach. I am used to the Philippines and Thailand and wear shorts all but 4 months out of the year in my country. Most the Youtube videos in Medellin where I wish to visit showed guys everywhere almost always wearing pants.

Being noticed as a foreigner can be both good (bad girls know to approach you) and bad (street beggars come running). All that I am used to.

The problem is my lack of understanding as to where this is a problem. Most countries you do not wear shorts to church or a middle class family restaurant and never a hat. I do not mind being noticed as a foreigner. But I do not want to be noticed as the asshole wearing shorts and sandals where he should not. Is it considered just silly looking or is it disrespectful of their culture?

Wearing shorts / sandals and picking up street walkers should not be a problem. Going to a disco, most sit down restaurants, or walking the Parque Lleras area at night would all be big no-nos I would assume.

Would it bring unwanted attention to a Prepagos girl from her neighbors if I wore shorts and sandals to our meeting at her place? True her neighbors probably know what is happening when guys visit all the time but no reason to flaunt I am a foreigner hooking up with her. I do not want to embarrass her. No need to start off on the wrong foot.

All the guys appear to wear blue jeans only. Never saw Docker or cargo type pants. Any reason for this?Good questions, here are my 2 cents:

1. Unless you look, dress, speak Spanish perfectly with their accent and have identical mannerisms as Colombians, this is impossible, they size you up in 3 seconds and they know that your a gringo, period, I have stopped trying to blend in as I am 6'-7" and pushing 300 lbs but the benefit I don't get fu*ked with.

2. The casa's, absolutely yes the whole neighborhood knows exactly what goes on, where these houses are, so my suggestion is to not wear shots and saddles as you will only bring more undue attention to the casas. I have spent considerable time in many different barrios of Medellin at my friends house, these are Colombians, and they ALL know of all the going-on's in their barrio, even the houses that are web-cam. They know it all, every person in the barrio.

3. Blue jeans only, if you wear cargo type or dockers this will immediately send out the notice that you are a gringo!

4. Of course always wear long pants to restaurants and discos, this is not Cancun.

5. The prepagos house where they work out of is NOT their own home, they only work in the house to service customers then at the end of their day they go back to their home usually far away.

Have fun!

The Tall Man.

Phunluv
11-27-18, 08:28
On Youtube a Colombia women talked about how they spot foreigners. She mentioned foreigners wear shorts and sandals in public. Colombians usually only wear shorts and sandals at home or at the beach. I am used to the Philippines and Thailand and wear shorts all but 4 months out of the year in my country. Most the Youtube videos in Medellin where I wish to visit showed guys everywhere almost always wearing pants.

Being noticed as a foreigner can be both good (bad girls know to approach you) and bad (street beggars come running). All that I am used to.Here's a suggestion for you: just go to YouTube and enter areas like "Parque Lleras" or "Laureles" or "Centro Medellin" to get an idea of what guys are wearing. There are plenty of "walking tour" videos of almost any part of the world now on YouTube, so there's no excuse for anyone to not know in advance what the local scene will look like.

LoveItHere69
11-28-18, 00:03
Here's a suggestion for you: just go to YouTube and enter areas like "Parque Lleras" or "Laureles" or "Centro Medellin" to get an idea of what guys are wearing. There are plenty of "walking tour" videos of almost any part of the world now on YouTube, so there's no excuse for anyone to not know in advance what the local scene will look like.Maybe you should read my first paragraph closer where I clearly state:

* Most the Youtube videos in Medellin where I wish to visit showed guys everywhere almost always wearing pants.

Watching videos (which I did and explained my findings) does not explain the reasons why. Though most people can guess most of the reasons. I was surprised because the climate is warm all year around yet I saw very very few shorts being worn so I asked the question. Your explanation is simply monkey see and monkey do. No insight what-so-ever.

In the Philippines for example there are bars that only foreigners go to and no Filipinos and vice versa. Sometimes there are different rules for foreigners versus Filipinos. I was looking for any unwritten rules. In this situation you wear and do this. But in that situation you wear and do that.

So in summary there is no reason for you not to be able to read.

LoveItHere69
11-28-18, 01:06
I was in Managua and my buddy in Estelli Nicaragua. No street signs in either city. Just a few on the very major streets. No Google Maps will not help. If you lose count of just one street you are lost and I walk zigzag pattern and down whatever street catches my eye. Once I saw a freshly paved fairly narrow path. I do not know if it was a narrow street or a really nice alleyway.

In Medellin Google Maps Street-View shows some signs. Some are mounted onto the sides of houses and buildings which is new to me.

1. Guestimate what percentage of the (side streets / residential) streets have signage?

2. I saw signs on poles and on the sides of buildings. Anywhere else they are hiding?

3. Unknown? Example: in Managua after 8 pm the majority of the city turns into a ghost town and the once oblivious sleeping daytime dogs wake up at night they think own the streets. They are in packs and thus dangerous. I am a dog person so for me to be bothered by it says something.

I do not need the regular do not go alone, do not be drunk, do not wear gold, etc. Looking for anything unique to Medellin or Colombia that you learned the hard way once you got there. Like my example in #3.

Phunluv
11-28-18, 09:14
Watching videos (which I did and explained my findings) does not explain the reasons why. Though most people can guess most of the reasons. I was surprised because the climate is warm all year around yet I saw very very few shorts being worn so I asked the question. Your explanation is simply monkey see and monkey do. No insight what-so-ever.Sorry to waste time spelling things out but there's no secret here, you're over-complicating things. Locals born and raised in warmer weather don't feel the heat as much as the turistas do, that should be pretty obvious, even to you. So that's why you don't see shorts. Also, the Latin-american culture is a little less casual than the "gringo" culture so that's another reason you don't see a lot of shorts except for some young guys. Nevertheless, despite that Latin formality, most Colombian guys usually don't dress flashy; they mostly wear jeans.

Why you ask? Isn't the reason obvious by now? Hint: this is Colombia, security and crime is still an issue in this country.

Guys don't want to call unwanted attention to themselves so they dress down. Plus, it's the girls' job to dress up and look sexy, LOL!

JjBee62
11-28-18, 17:28
I was in Managua and my buddy in Estelli Nicaragua. No street signs in either city. Just a few on the very major streets. No Google Maps will not help. If you lose count of just one street you are lost and I walk zigzag pattern and down whatever street catches my eye. Once I saw a freshly paved fairly narrow path. I do not know if it was a narrow street or a really nice alleyway.

In Medellin Google Maps Street-View shows some signs. Some are mounted onto the sides of houses and buildings which is new to me.

1. Guestimate what percentage of the (side streets / residential) streets have signage?

2. I saw signs on poles and on the sides of buildings. Anywhere else they are hiding?

3. Unknown? Example: in Managua after 8 pm the majority of the city turns into a ghost town and the once oblivious sleeping daytime dogs wake up at night they think own the streets. They are in packs and thus dangerous. I am a dog person so for me to be bothered by it says something.

I do not need the regular do not go alone, do not be drunk, do not wear gold, etc. Looking for anything unique to Medellin or Colombia that you learned the hard way once you got there. Like my example in #3.1. Most street signs are posted on the corner of buildings. Not every corner has a street sign. Street addresses are posted on, over or next to the door. Colombian street addresses are in this format: Street name, next lower cross street number, number of meters away from the cross street. Example:

Calle 56 #43-39 (which I believe is the address for New Life). Go to the corner of Calle 56 and Carrera 43. Go west, towards Carrera 44,39 meters. Over the door is a plaque with 43-39 on it.

Calles run east and west. Carreras go north and south. CL is the abbreviation for Calle. Cra is the abbreviation for Carrera. If you can't find a street sign at the corner, just check the addresses on a building on each street. 43-05 tells you the street crossing is either Calle or Carrera 43.55-135 or 56-05 tells you the other street is Carrera or Calle 56. The street running towards the river is a Calle. The other street is a Carrera.

2. No. Except pay attention to building addresses as noted above.

3. Never had a problem with stray dogs in Medellin. As for the unknown risks, fake police is one. Police in Colombia wear olive drab uniforms and often have a green day-glo vest. If they stop you, they don't need to tell you they are police, because it's obvious. Anyone not dressed in the police uniform, who claims to be with the police is trouble. There was a problem last year with guys hanging out around the casas, stopping gringos and robbing them. If someone approaches you, keep moving and try to enter the closest business. Move towards busier streets.

Another unknown is Scopolamine. Don't leave your drink unattended. Don't let strangers offer you drinks.

Charm City Dave
12-01-18, 08:09
I think I have shilled for google Fi here before. For americans it is a great international mobile voice and data service but I have used rather in extensively in many countries including columbia, the philippines, thailand, Cambodia, malaysia, Indonesia, Australia but you get the idea. You can save a few pesos getting a local sim card but for me the convenience of having my phone on an active wheels down in a new country is more than worth a couple of dollars period. The knock on google Fi used to be it didn't support a wide varriety of phones (I love my Pixel), but it now supports many Samsung and iPhone models. If interested see below, we both get a $20 services credit if you sing up. Feel free to mesage me with any questions.

https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT

Yetiecv
12-01-18, 15:25
Just a quick question about Medellin. I'm looking for a place to stay when I'm down there. How is Pabladorentals.com? They seem to all be guest friendly.

Also is there anyway to change the order of the post, I'm not use to the newest at the top.

Yetiecv
12-01-18, 15:30
One last question I forgot to mention. I keep reading how Facebook is key down there and how people have many possibilities from Facebook. How do you go about finding them on Facebook? How does that game work?

Dccpa
12-01-18, 22:05
I think I have shilled for google Fi here before. For americans it is a great international mobile voice and data service but I have used rather in extensively in many countries including columbia, the philippines, thailand, Cambodia, malaysia, Indonesia, Australia but you get the idea. You can save a few pesos getting a local sim card but for me the convenience of having my phone on an active wheels down in a new country is more than worth a couple of dollars period. The knock on google Fi used to be it didn't support a wide varriety of phones (I love my Pixel), but it now supports many Samsung and iPhone models. If interested see below, we both get a $20 services credit if you sing up. Feel free to mesage me with any questions.

https://g.co/fi/r/AV50ATI looked at Fi on Wednesday. In the linked article, there are several warnings about limitations on using Iphones with Fi. "iPhone use, however, is still in "beta," which means users should be prepared for bugs, and won't be able to use certain features like visual voicemail and international tethering. IPhones also won't be able to make calls and texts over Wi-Fi. ".

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/28/google-fi-simple-phone-service-expands-to-apple-iphone-more-androids.html

Google Fi Iphone comparison notes.

"https://fi.google.com/compatibility#results".

Charm City Dave
12-03-18, 09:45
I looked at Fi on Wednesday. In the linked article, there are several warnings about limitations on using Iphones with Fi. "iPhone use, however, is still in "beta," which means users should be prepared for bugs, and won't be able to use certain features like visual voicemail and international tethering. IPhones also won't be able to make calls and texts over Wi-Fi. ".

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/28/google-fi-simple-phone-service-expands-to-apple-iphone-more-androids.html

Google Fi Iphone comparison notes.

"https://fi.google.com/compatibility#results".For $20 for the first month you can try it out. I suspect if you cancelled in less than a month they would either refund the full $20 or prorated it.

Dccpa
12-03-18, 19:20
For $20 for the first month you can try it out. I suspect if you cancelled in less than a month they would either refund the full $20 or prorated it.Not worried about $20. I am concerned about not being able to make calls or texts over wifi. What good would the service do me? Asking a genuine question. I can take my Iphone and the Google FI simcard to Colombia later this month. But if I can't make wifi calls or texts, I am not seeing the benefit of having the service.

YippieKayay
12-03-18, 22:51
One last question I forgot to mention. I keep reading how Facebook is key down there and how people have many possibilities from Facebook. How do you go about finding them on Facebook? How does that game work?It's not key. It's useful in Medellin. You get one and keep adding her friends on facebook essentially. I don't do it myself.

Yetiecv
12-04-18, 03:29
It's not key. It's useful in Medellin. You get one and keep adding her friends on facebook essentially. I don't do it myself.Thanks. I'm still trying to figure it out. I think I might go the way of meeting one on cupid and try to get her Facebook as a start. I don't know how else to work the Facebook game.

OldTrack
12-05-18, 03:04
Hey gents,

If you looking for a Girl / Chica friendly hotel in Medellin, maybe this video can help you, this fellow has some great info.

Oh yeah ask him about the strip club video he has. https://youtu.be/nlDRssXDEiI.

TadaiMaybe
12-05-18, 06:04
Thanks. I'm still trying to figure it out. I think I might go the way of meeting one on cupid and try to get her Facebook as a start. I don't know how else to work the Facebook game.Much of the result you'll get from your FB, ColombiaCupid, etc effort will depend on how much time you'll have at your destination. Are you content with one or two chicks per day? Are you going to be ok if one of the "dates" you've arranged shows up late and messes up your planned day or worse don't show up at all? How much time do you want to allocate to chasing these chics over dinner, drinks, etc? Are you looking for a relationship or a just a a bang? I didn't try FB but I did try CC and Instagram but abandoned the idea once on the ground because I was there for 4 days only and there were plenty chicas all around everywhere. I had arranged to meet 5 girls; 3 delayed our date when I arrived, one was traveling, and the lastI cancelled because I had a better option available. Assuming some Spanish skills just saying hola to an attractive girl in a bar or the mall food court or Plaza Botero had more immediate results / benefits. My limited time didn't allow for multiple "dating" events to get a chica in the sack. My 2 pesos.

Charm City Dave
12-05-18, 09:43
Not worried about $20. I am concerned about not being able to make calls or texts over wifi. What good would the service do me? Asking a genuine question. I can take my Iphone and the Google FI simcard to Colombia later this month. But if I can't make wifi calls or texts, I am not seeing the benefit of having the service.You just have to check the link. I have an Android phone a Pixel no less designed to work with the service. And as somebody who travels to four or five countries a year I could not live without my Google fi service. I understand it might be a different calculation for someone who does not travel as frequently or has a phone that is less compatible. I think the service is so great it's worth giving it a shot for at most $20, but I'm not twisting anybody's arm.

KellyGfit
12-06-18, 16:09
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ArmnHammer69
12-10-18, 06:20
Hi,

I was wondering if the scene is still worth visiting during the holidays. Also are any of the strip clubs open on New Years in Medellin or Bogota?

I was in Bogota in February and had an amazing time in Santa Fe. La fiebre and paisas were amazing taking 4 girls a night upstairs. Was wondering what it's like these days?

I was in Medellin and enjoyed fade dos and La Isla girls club some beautiful women every night.

Are there any other good places I've missed in these cities?

Dlucaci
01-03-19, 06:03
Hi,

I'm meeting a friend in Playa del Carmen that lives in Colombia. I've done this before with a chic from Peru and the she was required to show 500 USD equivalent currency at Lima airport before allowed to bored plane. This is to show that they have enough to get there and back. Any one know if its the same for Colombians departing Colombia for mexico? Thanks!

Mr Enternational
01-03-19, 16:01
Hi,

I'm meeting a friend in Playa del Carmen that lives in Colombia. I've done this before with a chic from Peru and the she was required to show 500 USD equivalent currency at Lima airport before allowed to bored plane. This is to show that they have enough to get there and back. Any one know if its the same for Colombians departing Colombia for mexico? Thanks!I had a buddy that tried to do that about a year ago and they did not let his Colombiana enter Mexico, so it was a wasted trip and a bunch of wasted money for him. He was in Mexico City and not Cancun though.

Fun Luvr
01-03-19, 20:49
Hi,

I'm meeting a friend in Playa del Carmen that lives in Colombia. I've done this before with a chic from Peru and the she was required to show 500 USD equivalent currency at Lima airport before allowed to bored plane. This is to show that they have enough to get there and back. Any one know if its the same for Colombians departing Colombia for mexico? Thanks!She will not have to show a specified amount to leave Colombia, but getting out of the airport in Mexico is hit or miss. Make sure she has proof that she has a lodging reservation. She should dress conservatively. She should list a legitimate occupation and be prepared to describe what she does in that occupation. If she arrives in sexy attire and tells them she doesn't know where she is staying because her friend is meeting her at the airport, you will probably not see her. She will be denied entry.

YippieKayay
01-03-19, 22:24
She will not have to show a specified amount to leave Colombia, but getting out of the airport in Mexico is hit or miss. Make sure she has proof that she has a lodging reservation. She should dress conservatively. She should list a legitimate occupation and be prepared to describe what she does in that occupation. If she arrives in sexy attire and tells them she doesn't know where she is staying because her friend is meeting her at the airport, you will probably not see her. She will be denied entry.I went to the Dominican once with a Colombiana. She was dressed super sexy (super tight pants and her big surgically modified porn star tits practically hanging out). I didn't have any issue but I traveled with her. Immigration in DR didn't say a word to us. Just stamped us in. I also did Aruba with the same chica. Same deal. I traveled with her, connecting from Panama, and they just stamped us through.

I can see it would have been different if she went alone though.

TadaiMaybe
01-04-19, 09:05
Hi,

I'm meeting a friend in Playa del Carmen that lives in Colombia. I've done this before with a chic from Peru and the she was required to show 500 USD equivalent currency at Lima airport before allowed to bored plane. This is to show that they have enough to get there and back. Any one know if its the same for Colombians departing Colombia for mexico? Thanks!Cancun is an truly international destination and there are many Colombian tourists and families who regularly visit Cancun area and that I have met there. Yet the Mexican authorities are also aware of the Colombian girls reputation and assume they're hookers unless it can be proven otherwise. About a year ago, my Colombian GF who is a pharmacist didn't have any problems getting on the plane but was given the third degree upon landing in Cancun 1) because we traveled separately 2) because hotel reservation was under my name only. She had to show her official medical ID card and her credit card and a copy of my passport before they let her through.

Mufasa1
01-13-19, 23:29
Question. Which banks in Medellin seem to give the best exchange rate?

Mr Enternational
01-13-19, 23:55
Cancun is an truly international destination and there are many Colombian tourists and families who regularly visit Cancun area and that I have met there. Yet the Mexican authorities are also aware of the Colombian girls reputation and assume they're hookers unless it can be proven otherwise.Read your post again. There is a difference between families and groups of friends and 1 lone female. That logically sets off alarms as drug mule or transported for sex. Especially if the girl does not have a job or even one that would pay her enough to be able to travel there.

Fun Luvr
01-14-19, 02:41
Question. Which banks in Medellin seem to give the best exchange rate?I can't say for sure, but I don't think banks exchange currencies for non-account holders. They all give almost the same rate from their ATM's, but the ATM fees vary. BBVA and Davivienda are the only ones I know of that don't charge ATM fees.

Sammon
01-14-19, 02:50
Going to Peru via Bogota. Has three hour layover and was wondering is it enough time to go to El Centro ? Not a mongering visit. Going with a girl from here. Just want to take a look and back to airport. Peru trip to see sights, macchu Picchu, Lake titicaca, Lima and other sights.

Looking online it says need only half hour by taxi. Anybody know? Thanks for the info.

Mr Enternational
01-14-19, 03:20
Going to Peru via Bogota. Has three hour layover and was wondering is it enough time to go to El Centro ? Not a mongering visit. Going with a girl from here. Just want to take a look and back to airport. Peru trip to see sights, macchu Picchu, Lake titicaca, Lima and other sights.

Looking online it says need only half hour by taxi. Anybody know? Thanks for the info.First it would depend on your ticket. If you are just supposed to be transiting then you may have to follow the international connection line and not be allowed to leave out. If you are allowed to leave out, then immigration in Bogota usually has hella long lines. You better order a wheelchair and act handicap if you plan on getting through that line quick. And don't forget you have to go back through immigration to leave out of the country, which is usually long too. You could do it if immigration was not a factor, but I would not even try it since it is. I will be in Lima from the 4th until the 9th of next month if you are around.

JjBee62
01-14-19, 04:40
First it would depend on your ticket. If you are just supposed to be transiting then you may have to follow the international connection line and not be allowed to leave out. If you are allowed to leave out, then immigration in Bogota usually has hella long lines. You better order a wheelchair and act handicap if you plan on getting through that line quick. And don't forget you have to go back through immigration to leave out of the country, which is usually long too. You could do it if immigration was not a factor, but I would not even try it since it is. I will be in Lima from the 4th until the 9th of next month if you are around.And that's not considering the traffic. The wrong time of day it's going to take at least an hour each way by taxi. If there's no long line at immigration, if he takes the Transmilenio, he might be able to spend 30 minutes, but that's a lot of ifs.

Starlord1
01-14-19, 10:55
I think I have shilled for google Fi here before. For americans it is a great international mobile voice and data service but I have used rather in extensively in many countries including columbia, the philippines, thailand, Cambodia, malaysia, Indonesia, Australia but you get the idea. You can save a few pesos getting a local sim card but for me the convenience of having my phone on an active wheels down in a new country is more than worth a couple of dollars period. The knock on google Fi used to be it didn't support a wide varriety of phones (I love my Pixel), but it now supports many Samsung and iPhone models. If interested see below, we both get a $20 services credit if you sing up. Feel free to mesage me with any questions.

https://g.co/fi/r/AV50ATHey,

Thanks for posting this. I just signed up using your link. Looks like it will work for me best in Colombia.

I'm still going to also reload my Colombia SIM card to grab a bunch of data and use it as a hotspot. Thanks.

Bango Cheito
01-15-19, 12:41
Hey,

Thanks for posting this. I just signed up using your link. Looks like it will work for me best in Colombia.

I'm still going to also reload my Colombia SIM card to grab a bunch of data and use it as a hotspot. Thanks.I do agree absolutely that having connectivity right from jump is amazing coming in to Colombia (for one thing, makes it so much easier to get that Uber from the airport instead of dealing with pissmobiles).

I just want to point out though, that in Colombia, cell phone service is so cheap now that it's literally 20-25% the cost of Fi. And they do sell simcards at the airport.

Starlord1
01-15-19, 16:18
I do agree absolutely that having connectivity right from jump is amazing coming in to Colombia (for one thing, makes it so much easier to get that Uber from the airport instead of dealing with pissmobiles).

I just want to point out though, that in Colombia, cell phone service is so cheap now that it's literally 20-25% the cost of Fi. And they do sell simcards at the airport.Yup I know this. I have one already. But I need to keep my number from back home in case of emergency. Some of can't be walking around with no way for someone to get in contact with us. If I can get international support and keep my same number. Works best for me.

Sammon
01-16-19, 04:49
First it would depend on your ticket. If you are just supposed to be transiting then you may have to follow the international connection line and not be allowed to leave out. If you are allowed to leave out, then immigration in Bogota usually has hella long lines. You better order a wheelchair and act handicap if you plan on getting through that line quick. And don't forget you have to go back through immigration to leave out of the country, which is usually long too. You could do it if immigration was not a factor, but I would not even try it since it is. I will be in Lima from the 4th until the 9th of next month if you are around.Thanks for the info. I guess I will not try to get to the city in Bogota. Was just trying impress the girl. Anyway will be in Lima only February 14 one night. Then traveling everywhere. Not a mongering trip because I will have a girl with me from here.

Maybe some day we will cross paths and will have a time to clink beer galasses. Thanks,

Bango Cheito
01-16-19, 07:43
Yup I know this. I have one already. But I need to keep my number from back home in case of emergency. Some of can't be walking around with no way for someone to get in contact with us. If I can get international support and keep my same number. Works best for me.I've always solved this by having a Skype number, which I've had since 2006.

Mr Enternational
01-16-19, 12:18
Yup I know this. I have one already. But I need to keep my number from back home in case of emergency. Some of can't be walking around with no way for someone to get in contact with us. If I can get international support and keep my same number. Works best for me.That is what whatsapp is for. 2019!

Starlord1
01-18-19, 07:12
That is what whatsapp is for. 2019!Ummm excuse me. My daughter's mother doesn't have WhatsApp nor does my job. We have different reasons for not wanting a new number and being available. I will have mine.

Mr Enternational
01-19-19, 00:19
Ummm excuse me. My daughter's mother doesn't have WhatsApp nor does my job. We have different reasons for not wanting a new number and being available. I will have mine.Well everyone that I know have not always had it either, but I taught them about it to make our lives easier. Sorry man, but all you said was that you could not be walking around without a way for someone to contact you. I was just telling you about a free option for people to contact you anywhere you go.

Starlord1
01-19-19, 04:36
Well everyone that I know have not always had it either, but I taught them about it to make our lives easier. Sorry man, but all you said was that you could not be walking around without a way for someone to contact you. I was just telling you about a free option for people to contact you anywhere you go.Understood. I've been using Whatsapp for years. I'm not a novice. To this.

TonyShore421
01-21-19, 21:23
Newbie here. I am going there on 1/23 ,staying till 2/2,and would like to know how to get FB contacts and Whatsapp numbers for Chicas. I know its a short time and trying to make lemonades of my schedule. Not a big fan of Pros.

JjBee62
01-22-19, 12:10
Newbie here. I am going there on 1/23 ,staying till 2/2,and would like to know how to get FB contacts and Whatsapp numbers for Chicas. I know its a short time and trying to make lemonades of my schedule. Not a big fan of Pros.Well this is awkward.

The girls on Facebook, in Medellin, who will come over and fuck you for money are Pros.

If you're staying at the Mansion, just go to the bar, ask girls for their Facebook, send a message and ask for their WhatsApp. Or just take them to your room.

Search the Medellin thread for several tutorials on how to find girls on Facebook.

Fun Luvr
01-30-19, 21:32
Last Friday, I flagged down a taxi by Parque Lleras to go to Laureles. The fair should be 11 to 12 mil. I noticed the meter was running too fast. When I arrived at the apartment in Laureles, the meter was at 2150. I told him it was wrong, but he didn't budge. I gave him 20 mil because I didn't have enough smaller bills.

Later, I talked to a taxi driver I trust and he said to take a picture of the side of the taxi. That includes the taxi number along with another number assigned by the pubic safety department. He didn't tell me where to file a report, but he said they could take the driver's taxi license.

In essence, I suggest only using Easy Taxi or Uber. That way, you have a record of the trip.

LGuy1
01-31-19, 01:02
I may meet some friends for a few days and not sure which area I should meet them in. I believe Cartagena and Medellin are the two places.

JjBee62
02-05-19, 06:05
This post is directed to expats living in CO or knowledgeable about the subject. It has nothing to do with the theme of this board, sorry. I hesitate to get too personal, but screw it. For those that subscribe to expat boards, I've also asked the same question on another board. Please excuse the repetition.

I'm an American looking to retire in Medellin or possibly Cali or elsewhere, though my experience outside Medellin is very limited. I only mention Cali as I believe the cost of living is less than Medellin and I like warm weather. I'd like to inquire what kind of life I would have living on a small pension of about $2200 monthly. The best I can tell from my visits is that my standard of living would be much lower than it is now.

Not to get into all the gory details, I lost my business and with it, my savings. Hence, I have to rely on my pension. Although I'm a professional and have commanded a good salary, at 67 I find that jobs are much more difficult to come by. I was recently laid off and can't even get an interview. Besides, after over 50 years of working, I'm ready to leave the cold winters here in the northeast and enjoy retired life.

Is a decent apartment in a relatively safe area with enough left over for food, modest entertainment, basic medical (I'm healthy), etc possible in my circumstances? The decision I need to make is whether to struggle to look for work so I can replenish my savings somewhat or take the plunge and retire. Thanks.I'll start with a condensed version of my story, then answer your questions and end with my advice.

I arrived in Medellin early April 2017 and didn't return to the US until the end of March 2018. I went because of an offer of employment which should have brought in 6 million COP per month after 6 months and could well have grown to over 20 million per month after 18 months. I was assured everything was setup to get me a work visa.

Nothing was set up for the visa and I wasted a trip to Bogota to find out. No effort had been made on their part to ensure they had everything necessary. The job never materialized and what little work I did, wasn't worth mentioning. After 8 months of spending my money, which was running low, I finally ended the work relationship and convinced them to pay me $2000 for the unpaid work I had done. I spent the next 4 months trying to get something going, but there wasn't enough time and money.

During the year I spent about $30,000. I paid no rent, although I paid for fiber optic internet and utilities, averaging about $200/ month. The $30 k includes about $4 k for furniture, a laptop, Spanish classes, and other durable items. Except for the last 10 weeks, I spent rather freely. I wasn't watching my spending, because I kept expecting the money to start coming in. For at least 5 months I was spending $200-$300 week just on food and drinks. I probably averaged paying for sex slightly more than 1 time per week and many of those my total expense probably averaged $100. My living arrangements meant I could rarely bring girls to the apartment. Instead, I had them pick me up in a taxi and took them to Motel Ibiza. About 100 k for the motel, 150 k for the girl and 40 k for taxis. Other times I visited the casas and spent much less.

In other words, I spent a lot more than necessary and still got by for about $2200 per month.

Can you get by on $2200/ month? It's possible.

At current rates, you'll have about 6 million COP per month. However, if the exchange rates go the wrong way, that could drop to 4 million or less. I initially, figured I could live comfortably on 4.4 million monthly. (After this a number followed by m is millions. 2 m = 2 million).

First thing is to set your budget for 4 m, instead of 6 m. It's easier to spend leftover money than to live without money when it's 5 days to payday. That means rent should be a maximum of 1. 3 m, although you should shoot for under 1 m. Utilities, cable and internet should be 300 k or less. If you cook frequently and choose wisely when you eat out, you can get by on a grocery and eating out budget of 700 k. That meets your basic needs and you still have 2 m to 4 m left for entertainment.

You will want to sign up for the health plan, but that should run around 100 k monthly. In order to maximize your budget, you need to go native. Avoid taxis. Use the buses and metro. The money saved will buy you 10 meals per week. Take advantage of the low prices on fruits and vegetables. You can eat healthy and spend very little. Except for special occasions, eat comida tipica. Why spend 30 k for a burger and fries, when 10 k gets you meat, potatoes, rice, a salad, platano and fresh fruit juice?

What about entertainment? At 50 k in the casas, you can easily afford 2 visits per week and have 1 Facebook girl over every week. That still leaves almost 1 m of your 4 m budget.

My advice is to take 1 or 2 months as a trial run. Spend a month in Medellin and a month in Cali. You'll need to find an apartment for 1 m. Keep track of all your expenses. Can you get by at a level you're comfortable with for no more than 4 m? If so you're ready to give it a try.

JjBee62
02-05-19, 06:29
The question about trying to retire to Colombia on $2200/ month has me thinking. I'm willing to prove it can be done. I know some of you have more than enough money to finance the attempt. I'm betting some of you have an accountant who knows how to make it completely deductible. Who wants to fund the experiment?

It comes to $26,400 for the year. Add in money to pay taxes on the $26.4 k and that brings it to about $34 k. I'll have to wait 6 or 7 months to begin, unless you want to pitch in another $8 k for my current obligations.

For my part I'll keep a complete record of every peso spent, write updates at least weekly and document all experiences. I'll also make an effort to find and review chica friendly hotels, love motels, restaurants, attractions worth visiting, casas, and various girls. As a bonus, at the end of the year I'll give you my complete chica Facebook list, which I should be able to at least double in size. That would be about 500 girls.

I'm certain some of you marketing gurus can figure out a way to turn a profit off of the experiment. I already have a few ideas.

How about it? Anyone want to give it a shot?

Jooks
02-05-19, 13:55
As I posted in the Medellin forum (sorry for any duplication), I am in the beginning stages of making arrangements to retire and relocate to CO. At this point, I'm leaning towards Medellin and am considering Cali. I have never been to the latter but have been to Medellin several times.

For preparation, I'the like to spend a month or so looking around for an apartment rental (and having fun! I'm at a disadvantage since my Spanish is only a little better than basic. Can someone help with a recommendation of a trustworthy and knowledgeable English-speaking person to show me around. I would require someone in Medellin and Cali. If I find something, I will make arrangements to rent and move within a few months. I know renting is a little complicated. That's another reason to have someone trustworthy help and to also avoid going to realtors and paying the extra fee.

I came across a site, showaround dot com. It seems mostly geared for tourists that want a guide or some other form of help. I think it may be appropriate for my purposes. Does anyone have any knowledge of them? Or any recommendations?

Thanks.

Mr Enternational
02-05-19, 14:33
I came across a site, showaround dot com. It seems mostly geared for tourists that want a guide or some other form of help. I think it may be appropriate for my purposes. Does anyone have any knowledge of them?I use the showaround app to meet chicks.

Jooks
02-05-19, 14:37
I use the showaround app to meet chicks.I should have known, haha. There are some hot chicks on the site and wondered if some use it for hookups. Anyway, as tempting as it seems, I don't want to mix business with pleasure. One or the other is going to be lacking.

The Tall Man
02-05-19, 20:41
I should have known, haha. There are some hot chicks on the site and wondered if some use it for hookups. Anyway, as tempting as it seems, I don't want to mix business with pleasure. One or the other is going to be lacking.Jooks, keep this stuff a bit discrete, when your ready to explore Medellin send me a PM a week before you come, either myself or my Colombian buddy will show you everything you need, he is reasonable and again everything that you may need such as living, food and yes girls.

The Tall Man.

Jooks
02-05-19, 21:18
Jooks, keep this stuff a bit discrete, when your ready to explore Medellin send me a PM a week before you come, either myself or my Colombian buddy will show you everything you need, he is reasonable and again everything that you may need such as living, food and yes girls.

The Tall Man.Deal! Thank you!

Bango Cheito
02-07-19, 08:16
The question about trying to retire to Colombia on $2200/ month has me thinking. I'm willing to prove it can be done. I know some of you have more than enough money to finance the attempt. I'm betting some of you have an accountant who knows how to make it completely deductible. Who wants to fund the experiment?

It comes to $26,400 for the year. Add in money to pay taxes on the $26.4 k and that brings it to about $34 k. I'll have to wait 6 or 7 months to begin, unless you want to pitch in another $8 k for my current obligations.

For my part I'll keep a complete record of every peso spent, write updates at least weekly and document all experiences. I'll also make an effort to find and review chica friendly hotels, love motels, restaurants, attractions worth visiting, casas, and various girls. As a bonus, at the end of the year I'll give you my complete chica Facebook list, which I should be able to at least double in size. That would be about 500 girls.

I'm certain some of you marketing gurus can figure out a way to turn a profit off of the experiment. I already have a few ideas.

How about it? Anyone want to give it a shot?I'we been living in Bogota on and off since 2005 now. I've almost never spent more than 2 million a month for my own expenses. Some leaner months I got by on a million pesos or less.

The trick is to live in Estrato 3. Getting around on a bicycle or motorcycle is also a good option; it works out to even cheaper than taking the bus!

I don't even feel that I'm missing much from life up north, even when I've had to just scrape by.

ReefTip
02-10-19, 19:11
Firstly thanks to all of the people who have made contributions to this forum. Your information has been most useful.

I am used to traveling in Asia, and there always seems to be a bar where expats in the area like to hang out and a new face is made welcome. I have not seen any place like this mentioned on these forums – maybe I missed the post? I tried to find Jenson's bar last night before I discovered it was closed.

Balboa
02-10-19, 20:32
Firstly thanks to all of the people who have made contributions to this forum. Your information has been most useful.

I am used to traveling in Asia, and there always seems to be a bar where expats in the area like to hang out and a new face is made welcome. I have not seen any place like this mentioned on these forums maybe I missed the post? I tried to find Jenson's bar last night before I discovered it was closed.Actually Jenson's didn't close, it was sold to another Gringo, and he changed the name, and the ambiance of the bar to try and attract more of the young Colombianos (as) with money to come, as a cool spot for them.

Arcangel
02-11-19, 00:38
The ATM discussion is in full swing again on the Bogota thread, when it really belongs here.

The topic always flares up again when some newbie wants to bring cash. The only valid reason I can see to bring cash is if you have ilicit money that you cannot put into a bank account and you'd rather just spend it in Colombia. Other than that, use ATMs, it's the most cost-effective, safe and convenient method.

Don't be a chump and let your bank rip you off. Shop around in your country of residence for a Visa or Mastercard (or preferably both) that does not add a fee or commision for foreign currency cash withdrawals. Read the small print.

Credit cards normally charge you a high rate of interest from the day of cash withdrawal. You can avoid this by paying money into your credit card account ahead of time, so you're not actually getting credit.

In Colombia get your cash from ATMs that don't add a fee for foreign issued cards. Most ATMs, including BanColombia and RedAVAL charge around 13 k COP.

Davivienda: free withdrawals, limit 400 k COP, repeat as necessary.

Banco Caja Social (This has never been mentioned on this forum, I believe): free withdrawals, limit 700 k COP (on my card anyway).

You can repeat withdrawals on the same day up to a limit that is set by the issuing bank, I believe. One time I got 1200 k a day out of Davivienda several days in a row, no problem.

I try and avoid using my cards other than in ATMs. The risk in a shop is that your card data gets stolen. Even if you don't get a fraudulent charge on your account, the bank may block your card and you are left without money until you get hold of your replacement card. For this reason, always have a second card as backup. Last year my main card got blocked and reissued. My bank wouldn't tell me what happened, but I suspect it may be because I used the card to buy an airticket online for someone other than me (for a girl).

Another thing to avoid is to arrive in a country like Colombia and max out your card in the first ATM. This is likely to trigger your bank's fraud algorithm and block your card. This happened to me once in Brasil.

YippieKayay
02-11-19, 01:17
The ATM discussion is in full swing again on the Bogota thread, when it really belongs here.

The topic always flares up again when some newbie wants to bring cash. The only valid reason I can see to bring cash is if you have ilicit money that you cannot put into a bank account and you'd rather just spend it in Colombia. Other than that, use ATMs, it's the most cost-effective, safe and convenient method.

Yes for average amounts but if you need to pay 2 million pesos upfront for an apartment because its owned by too small of a business to accept credit cards you're stuck bringing cash or wiring the money. I'll be fucked if I'm going to wire money to Colombia. That shit probably raises enough red flags on its own. So I'll bring just enough to get 2 million pesos to the airport in Bogota and check the cambios for the best rate. There are several of them right when you exit customs and one in the baggage area.

Arcangel
02-11-19, 02:49
but if you need to pay 2 million pesos upfront for an apartment because its owned by too small of a business to accept credit cards you're stuck bringing cash or wiring the money. This is Colombia, small business is flexible. What I would do in this situation is tell the people that I'm happy to pay the 2 million but that I cannot get it out of the ATM all on the first day, that I'll pay half the first day and half on the second day. I'd be surprised if they were to turn around and say: get out of here, it's all or nothing.

JjBee62
02-11-19, 04:09
Firstly thanks to all of the people who have made contributions to this forum. Your information has been most useful.

I am used to traveling in Asia, and there always seems to be a bar where expats in the area like to hang out and a new face is made welcome. I have not seen any place like this mentioned on these forums maybe I missed the post? I tried to find Jenson's bar last night before I discovered it was closed.In Medellin you can usually find some gringos hanging out at Patrick's. They also cluster at the Parque Lleras Juan Valdez.

Arcangel
02-11-19, 17:53
I forgot to mention: if you use your Credit or Debit Card to pay for goods or services, make sure they charge you in COP and not in USD, EUR or whatever your card's currency. I have paid in better hotels by card (when I didn't have enough cash in pocket) and most times I had to insist that they charge me the proper amount in COP, because when the machine sees a foreign card, by default it converts at its own crappy rate to your currency, costing you around 5% more. Some hotel staff didn't know how to tell the machine charge to in COP and had to get help. Always check the amount on the screen and insist on COP.

Even some ATMs offer to charge you in your currency. Don't do it.

Param Ahmad
02-12-19, 05:46
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_herpes_simplex

According to this Wikipedia article, 57% of women in Colombia are seropositive for HSV-2, suggesting 57% of women in Colombia have genital herpes. However, also according to this article, 89% (men and women) in Colombia are seropositive for HSV-1 (which is elsewhere said to be responsible for the majority of genital herpes in some parts of the world).

Arcangel
02-12-19, 21:03
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_herpes_simplex

According to this Wikipedia article, 57% of women in Colombia are seropositive for HSV-2, suggesting 57% of women in Colombia have genital herpes. However, also according to this article, 89% (men and women) in Colombia are seropositive for HSV-1 (which is elsewhere said to be responsible for the majority of genital herpes in some parts of the world).That means Colombia is not much different from any other country. You and I both probably have HSV-1 and HSV-2. As the Wikipedia article shows, these virus are very common.

Param Ahmad
02-14-19, 05:40
That means Colombia is not much different from any other country. You and I both probably have HSV-1 and HSV-2. As the Wikipedia article shows, these virus are very common.You're right about HSV-1. The majority of people have it in most (but not all) countries. Where a large percentage of genital herpes is HSV-1, low HSV-2 incidence rates don't tell you much. However, in most parts of the world, most genital herpes is HSV-2. I think the 57% HSV-2 incidence rate in women in Colombia versus the 4% HSV-2 incidence in women in Spain is significant, as is the 5% HSV-2 incidence rate in women in the UK and Isreal, and 13% incidence rate in women in Canada. When in countries with a high incidence rate, like Colombia, more caution may be advisable: See my reports in the Safe Sex forum. On the other hand, if you've already got genital herpes or get it in the future and decide to look for a long-term relationship, a country like Colombia where most women already have the same STI you have might be your best place to look.

World Travel 69
02-14-19, 14:04
I guess you should stay home.

Or use two condoms.


You're right about HSV-1. The majority of people have it in most (but not all) countries. Where a large percentage of genital herpes is HSV-1, low HSV-2 incidence rates don't tell you much. However, in most parts of the world, most genital herpes is HSV-2. I think the 57% HSV-2 incidence rate in women in Colombia versus the 4% HSV-2 incidence in women in Spain is significant, as is the 5% HSV-2 incidence rate in women in the UK and Isreal, and 13% incidence rate in women in Canada. When in countries with a high incidence rate, like Colombia, more caution may be advisable: See my reports in the Safe Sex forum. On the other hand, if you've already got genital herpes or get it in the future and decide to look for a long-term relationship, a country like Colombia where most women already have the same STI you have might be your best place to look.

ReefTip
02-16-19, 21:02
In Medellin you can usually find some gringos hanging out at Patrick's. They also cluster at the Parque Lleras Juan Valdez.Thanks for the info.

I actually found a another good bar that I like to hang – out at, and I will recommend this place as being worth a visit.

Philly Sports Bar it's on the ground floor of the San Peter Apartment building in Laureles.

Bill the expat owner and his sidekick chef Victor are excellent hosts.

JjBee62
02-20-19, 18:32
I've written about this before and have shared these thoughts with a few others who appreciated them. I was reading through some old messages this morning and realized unreasonable expectations is what started the current row in the stupid shit thread.

My first visit to a restaurant in Colombia, a little place in Bogota, near Parque 93, left me frustrated. Simply put, I expected to receive US restaurant service in Colombia. As everyone knows, service in Colombia is much different. I expected a waiter to check on me 4 minutes after handing me the menu, and every 5 minutes after that. As you already know, that ain't happening.

It took me several days to adjust. When I did, I learned something. The waiters and waitresses were being polite, by Colombian standards. To interrupt someone with a mouthful of food, just to ask a basic question is rude.

When we're traveling, especially to common mongering destinations, it's easy to treat it just like home. At home, nobody is going to show up 90 minutes late without any effort to inform you of the delay. At home, the cashiers keep the lines moving. Waiters swoop down on you every 5 minutes. If you let them, these things can ruin your day. Even worse, these things are unavoidable.

No matter where you go, or what you do in Colombia, you're going to have interactions with the locals. That's why most of us go there. I've listened to several guys gripe about how annoying it can be dealing with Colombians. My response is, "stop expecting them to be north Americans."

You can yell all you want at the girl who showed up late, or who didn't tell you she was on her period, but it won't change anything, except for your mood. She's going to be late for the next guy. Screaming at the cashier or waitress won't accomplish anything either. Neither will complaining about them to me.

I'm almost always going to side with the Colombian. They are just being Colombian. If your dog shits in the wrong spot, I'm on the dog's side. To him, it smelled like the right place to shit. He's just following his instincts. It's not right or wrong, it's just different. There are things you can't change.

How you handle all the situations that come up is your decision. However, if you accept that these things are inevitable, you can learn to work around them or to deal with them without letting them affect your mood.

The Paisas are going to be the same next week, next month and next year.

MjTravelLove
02-21-19, 07:50
Does anybody know of a similar site but a Colombian version. Feel free to PM me. I am not disturbing sh_t here. I pay for this site and like it, but need a more well-rounded view.

THANKS!

Bango Cheito
02-21-19, 11:56
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_herpes_simplex

According to this Wikipedia article, 57% of women in Colombia are seropositive for HSV-2, suggesting 57% of women in Colombia have genital herpes. However, also according to this article, 89% (men and women) in Colombia are seropositive for HSV-1 (which is elsewhere said to be responsible for the majority of genital herpes in some parts of the world).50-80% of the WORLD's population have HSV-1. There are no countries that are exceptional on either end of the spectrum.

There's NO WAY 57% of Colombian women have HSV-2, because I assure you if the rate were that high, I'd be positive too after all the fucking I've done here.

Please don't use Wikipedia as a legit source of scientific data.

Bango Cheito
02-21-19, 11:58
I've written about this before and have shared these thoughts with a few others who appreciated them. I was reading through some old messages this morning and realized unreasonable expectations is what started the current row in the stupid shit thread.

My first visit to a restaurant in Colombia, a little place in Bogota, near Parque 93, left me frustrated. Simply put, I expected to receive US restaurant service in Colombia. As everyone knows, service in Colombia is much different. I expected a waiter to check on me 4 minutes after handing me the menu, and every 5 minutes after that. As you already know, that ain't happening.

It took me several days to adjust. When I did, I learned something. The waiters and waitresses were being polite, by Colombian standards. To interrupt someone with a mouthful of food, just to ask a basic question is rude.

When we're traveling, especially to common mongering destinations, it's easy to treat it just like home. At home, nobody is going to show up 90 minutes late without any effort to inform you of the delay. At home, the cashiers keep the lines moving. Waiters swoop down on you every 5 minutes. If you let them, these things can ruin your day. Even worse, these things are unavoidable.

No matter where you go, or what you do in Colombia, you're going to have interactions with the locals. That's why most of us go there. I've listened to several guys gripe about how annoying it can be dealing with Colombians. My response is, "stop expecting them to be north Americans."

You can yell all you want at the girl who showed up late, or who didn't tell you she was on her period, but it won't change anything, except for your mood. She's going to be late for the next guy. Screaming at the cashier or waitress won't accomplish anything either. Neither will complaining about them to me.

I'm almost always going to side with the Colombian. They are just being Colombian. If your dog shits in the wrong spot, I'm on the dog's side. To him, it smelled like the right place to shit. He's just following his instincts. It's not right or wrong, it's just different. There are things you can't change.

How you handle all the situations that come up is your decision. However, if you accept that these things are inevitable, you can learn to work around them or to deal with them without letting them affect your mood.

The Paisas are going to be the same next week, next month and next year.In general, I agree with you, with the exception of lateness. Lateness should NEVER be tolerated.

If a girl is late, it's because she dgaf. When I've had women really into me, they have been as punctual as anybody in North America is.

Arcangel
02-21-19, 14:36
Does anybody know of a similar site but a Colombian version.doncolombia.com

MjTravelLove
02-22-19, 07:52
My sincere thank you!


doncolombia.com

JjBee62
02-22-19, 15:07
In general, I agree with you, with the exception of lateness. Lateness should NEVER be tolerated.

If a girl is late, it's because she dgaf. When I've had women really into me, they have been as punctual as anybody in North America is.My point is that you're not going to change it, especially with first time girls. Usually they will be late. You can cancel, or cuss her out, but it's not going to change.

My experience has been, the girls who I have the best time with are more likely to be punctual. The ones who are habitually late, seem to be weak in the sack. If I'm really interested in giving her a try, I'll give a bigger window. If she's just in the middle of the scale for me, I shrink the window and give her an ultimatum.

But there's always the chance of something coming up. If it's raining hard, chances are you're out of luck in Medellin. Especially if she lives up in the hills. One extremely dependable girl cancelled because her mother couldn't make it up to their house until the rain stopped. Nobody to watch the kids until she got home.

My vacation attitude is to be relaxed. I don't want to create a bunch of stress every day over things I can't change. I make allowances. If I need to take a detour, I enjoy the change of scenery instead of griping about taking a different route.

Sun08
02-27-19, 00:31
I found out there is an App that works like Uber in Colombia. It is called 'beat'. I downloaded it to my iphone and used it. Very similar to Uber. Apparently it costs a bit less than Uber.

Bango Cheito
03-06-19, 12:54
My point is that you're not going to change it, especially with first time girls. Usually they will be late. You can cancel, or cuss her out, but it's not going to change.

My experience has been, the girls who I have the best time with are more likely to be punctual. The ones who are habitually late, seem to be weak in the sack. If I'm really interested in giving her a try, I'll give a bigger window. If she's just in the middle of the scale for me, I shrink the window and give her an ultimatum.

But there's always the chance of something coming up. If it's raining hard, chances are you're out of luck in Medellin. Especially if she lives up in the hills. One extremely dependable girl cancelled because her mother couldn't make it up to their house until the rain stopped. Nobody to watch the kids until she got home.

My vacation attitude is to be relaxed. I don't want to create a bunch of stress every day over things I can't change. I make allowances. If I need to take a detour, I enjoy the change of scenery instead of griping about taking a different route.That's my whole point. Instead of stressing about it, just write a girl off if she's more than half an hour late without a good reason and you'll enjoy yourself a lot more. You're probably dodging a bullet, as you also kindly pointed out.

Of course, if she calls and says she's two blocks from where you're staying and wants to fuck for free, your call.

Bango Cheito
03-06-19, 12:55
I found out there is an App that works like Uber in Colombia. It is called 'beat'. I downloaded it to my iphone and used it. Very similar to Uber. Apparently it costs a bit less than Uber.Beat is good; a lot of my friends use it. It takes longer to get a car sometimes but it is quite a bit cheaper.

There's also Picap for the really intrepid. They send you a MOTORCYCLE that picks you up.

Turgid
03-11-19, 16:59
Do any of you guys tip hotel housekeepers in Colombia? They seem so surprised when I do it.

Master Yoda
03-11-19, 17:45
Latina angeR.

One Latina I've been speaking to online seems pretty mad at me and said she didn't want to talk to me again. Did nothing wrong. Just couldn't do something she wanted on time so created a fuss. She Seems really nice and don't want to lose her over something so stupid. Should I just wait and hope she texts back? I think maybe I'm blocked but it was random.

Manizales911
03-11-19, 19:02
Do any of you guys tip hotel housekeepers in Colombia? They seem so surprised when I do it.I always tip the housekeeping staff, then I leave a note asking for extra towels and always receive them. They are surprised because Colombians generally don't tip for anything, certainly not hotel housekeepers. If you tip a taxi driver outside of the areas frequented by gringos it will be met with the same look of astonishment.

Orgasmico
03-11-19, 20:15
Do any of you guys tip hotel housekeepers in Colombia? They seem so surprised when I do it.Do you tip the bell hop, bartenders and any of the other hotel workers as well?

Michi T
03-11-19, 20:48
I always tip the housekeeping staff, then I leave a note asking for extra towels and always receive them. They are surprised because Colombians generally don't tip for anything, certainly not hotel housekeepers. If you tip a taxi driver outside of the areas frequented by gringos it will be met with the same look of astonishment.Tiping? US Gringo thing. Not everybody around the world do like the US Gringo! Why tiping? I don't see it as my business to pay "tips" (I. E. Salary) to all kind of gangsta such as taxi driver (which I never use whatsoever), the the bartender etc. It is the business' duty to pay its staff. Period! Tjat's how the Colombia dudes see it, that's how many others see it. US Gringo think they must pay foer every silly thing. Good, then they do it. But don't try to force other to do it alike!

PS: The room cleaner I give a few cents every here and there, but not the restaurant dude

YippieKayay
03-11-19, 22:13
PS: The room cleaner I give a few cents every here and there, but not the restaurant dudeService is usually included in your restaurant bill unless you tell the guy not to include it.

I do tip the housekeeper if I'm staying in a hotel. I end up with a dozen fluffy towels instead of the 3 regular ones I would get.

Balboa
03-12-19, 02:50
Tiping? US Gringo thing. Not everybody around the world do like the US Gringo! Why tiping? I don't see it as my business to pay "tips" (I. E. Salary) to all kind of gangsta such as taxi driver (which I never use whatsoever), the the bartender etc. It is the business' duty to pay its staff. Period! Tjat's how the Colombia dudes see it, that's how many others see it. US Gringo think they must pay foer every silly thing. Good, then they do it. But don't try to force other to do it alike!

PS: The room cleaner I give a few cents every here and there, but not the restaurant dudeGood for you 🤪

Bango Cheito
03-14-19, 09:43
Give a tip if you feel like it, but don't give an exorbitant one, it looks like a bribe.

If you're overly generous with a housekeeper she'll probably think you're trying to get extra services, and either be indignant or start negotiating with you!

DO NOT TIP TAXI DRIVERS IN Bogota! Really, don't even take them if you can avoid it at all!!

Orgasm Donor
03-22-19, 01:02
What is your favorite Colombian Ron and why?

Ron Medellin Extra Anejo 8 yr is my usual go-to Colombian Ron nice balanced anejo.

Ron Caldas I agree with some of colombianos and think this tastes like gasolina.

Ron Parce 8 yr REALLY like this stuff, but can be pricey and hard to find.

Ron Dictador haven't tried yet. Seems overly trendy.

Ron Hechicera haven't tried yet.

How do you usually drink your rum? Neat? Cuba Libre? Ron Medellin I can drink either neat or Cuba libre style. Coca-Cola and a lime slice please. Minimal regrets the next morning.

Bill
03-25-19, 00:19
What are many of you buying in Medellin that is a good deal or is hard to find?

I'm thinking Amoxicillin at 2 k for 10- 500 MG tabs. Anyone know for a fact if there is a 50 pill personal exemption for this med?

Sildenafil at 4 k for a 4 pk of 50 MG tabs. Anyone declare and import 50 pills?

Lycra boxer shorts at 5 k ea.

Locally made knockoff tennis shoes 10-20 k Do they last?

Guava sweets and colombian candy.

Colombian sombrero 21 Vueltiao.

Coffee.

JjBee62
03-25-19, 00:40
What are many of you buying in Medellin that is a good deal or is hard to find?

I'm thinking Amoxicillin at 2 k for 10- 500 MG tabs. Anyone know for a fact if there is a 50 pill personal exemption for this med?

Sildenafil at 4 k for a 4 pk of 50 MG tabs. Anyone declare and import 50 pills?

Lycra boxer shorts at 5 k ea.

Locally made knockoff tennis shoes 10-20 k Do they last?

Guava sweets and colombian candy.

Colombian sombrero 21 Vueltiao.

Coffee.I know the sweets and candy aren't a problem, at least for a reasonable amount. I know a lot of people bring back pills, but not sure on how much is allowed, or if they are declaring them. Coffee I believe has a limit, but I can't remember the amount. Clothes shouldn't be any problem either. Most of the clothes I returned with were bought in Colombia. No experience with the knock-off shoes, but the knock-off jeans weren't very well made.

Mr Enternational
03-25-19, 00:57
Locally made knockoff tennis shoes 10-20 k Do they last?I have never seen that price, but they only go up to US size 10, so I have never been able to try them out.

JjBee62
03-25-19, 01:14
I have never seen that price, but they only go up to US size 10, so I have never been able to try them out.You can probably get up to size 10 or 10.5. When I tried to find 11.5's I was limited to a pair of Nikes that someone had special ordered and never picked up.

Try shoe alley in El Centro. Calle 47 between Carrera 52 and 53. You'll see why I call it shoe alley when you get there.

Mr Enternational
03-25-19, 02:12
You can probably get up to size 10 or 10.5. When I tried to find 11.5's I was limited to a pair of Nikes that someone had special ordered and never picked up.

Try shoe alley in El Centro. Calle 47 between Carrera 52 and 53. You'll see why I call it shoe alley when you get there.I went to Palacio in Medellin. That is when I found out they only go up to a certain size. They told me that for size 11 I would have to buy originals.

Bango Cheito
03-25-19, 06:53
What are many of you buying in Medellin that is a good deal or is hard to find?

I'm thinking Amoxicillin at 2 k for 10- 500 MG tabs. Anyone know for a fact if there is a 50 pill personal exemption for this med?

Sildenafil at 4 k for a 4 pk of 50 MG tabs. Anyone declare and import 50 pills?

Lycra boxer shorts at 5 k ea.

Locally made knockoff tennis shoes 10-20 k Do they last?

Guava sweets and colombian candy.

Colombian sombrero 21 Vueltiao.

Coffee.As long as you aren't bringing in controlled substances where you are going (nootropics, opioids etc which CAN ALL be gotten OTC anywhere in Colombia), and they are obviously for personal use or gifts, you will be fine.

And for 20 k or less, they aren't going to last.

Wolf662
03-25-19, 20:08
What are many of you buying in Medellin that is a good deal or is hard to find?

I'm thinking Amoxicillin at 2 k for 10- 500 MG tabs. Anyone know for a fact if there is a 50 pill personal exemption for this med?

Sildenafil at 4 k for a 4 pk of 50 MG tabs. Anyone declare and import 50 pills?

Lycra boxer shorts at 5 k ea.

Locally made knockoff tennis shoes 10-20 k Do they last?.From Medellin:

I buy beautiful colorful 2 person hammocks for 45 k in Parque Bolivar during their craft fair, 1st weekend of every month. (lots of cool stuff there).

I buy 10 k Colombian soccer jerseys from a street vendor on the corner of Calle 52 & Carr 49. Next to Edificio Coltejer, the big white tall building- Go Atletico Nacional!

I get nice size Botero statues during the weekend from a little old lady under the Metro by Plaza Botero for 10 k. (not tiny ones either).

I always walk thru and buy some stuff at "Centro Artesanal Mi Viejo Pueblo" a large craft and souvenir mall Cra. 49 #53-20 on Junin Walking Street at the Parque Bolivar end.

I get some very nice Botero prints on canvas (30 k) from the corner souvenir shop next to Plaza Botero, corner of Carr 52 & Calle 52.

DeepXliv
04-14-19, 20:03
When I see a post and it translates to boyfriend experience. What does that mean to most Colombia women? DFK, spending time with you, BBBJ, bareback?

JjBee62
04-27-19, 18:21
Here are some pictures of a Colombian and a Venezuelan cedula. The Colombian is a composite showing front and back. The Venezuelan is just the front and part of that is cropped out. At the top should be 3 colored bars, yellow, blue and red.

First the Colombian cedula. Just below the title is the cedula number. The format is 1. 123.123. 123 I've got pictures of about a dozen cedulas and the first number is always a 1. I don't know if there are any valid cedulas which begin with any other number. Below that are the last names. Many Colombians have 2 last names, the last name of both the mother and father. Next line is for their first and middle name and the last line is for their signature. On the back you'll find the date of birth top left. Place of birth is to the right. The other information is when and where the cedula was applied for, blood type and height.

The Venezuelan cedula is simpler. Top center is the cedula number, 12.345. 678 is the format. Next are the last names, then first and middle name. In the middle: top left is birth date, top right is marital status, bottom left is issue date, bottom right is expiration date. It's good for 10 years.

JjBee62
04-27-19, 18:38
When I see a post and it translates to boyfriend experience. What does that mean to most Colombia women? DFK, spending time with you, BBBJ, bareback?The problem isn't with what it means to most Colombian women. The problem is what does it mean to most mongers? To complicate things, it's common for mongers to fudge a bit in their reviews. Everyone likes to put themselves in the best light. Plus, some reviews are written days, weeks or months later. When you're back in the US trying to decide between spending $150 to see a toothless meth addict or a heroin addict, that $50 6 or 7 looks more like a 9.

I found that about half of the Facebook girls were happy to spend time with me. By that I mean there was no specific time limit, no rush to leave. Only a few seemed to be watching the clock. Between 50-75% had no problem with DFK. 75% had no problem with BBBJ. Only about 15% offered BBFS.

Now YMMV. Around 70% of my sessions were immediately preceded by either a shower or a long sit in a jacuzzi with bubble bath. Starting off when the girl knows you are clean probably helps for the BBBJ.

Mr Enternational
04-27-19, 21:07
Here are some pictures of a Colombian and a Venezuelan cedula.You forgot the pictures.

PepolesBuddy
04-27-19, 21:32
Is the tap water in the major cities I. E., Cali, Bogota, Santa Marta clean and safe to drink as it is in Mde?

JjBee62
04-28-19, 12:27
You forgot the pictures.No. I included the pictures. Apparently, pictures of cedulas, with every bit of identifying information blurred out, including the picture, the thumbprint and the bar code on the Colombian cedula, violates board policy. Maybe if I just posted a picture of a blank rectangle that would be acceptable.

The Tall Man
04-28-19, 21:05
Is the tap water in the major cities I. E., Cali, Bogota, Santa Marta clean and safe to drink as it is in Mde?My advice as I have been to all these places and never gotten ill, knock on wood, in MDE and Bogota no problem but stay away from drinking the water in every other place. In Cartagena or Santa Marta or Cucuta or even Cali I don't even use the tap water to brush my teeth.

Worked for me so far.

The Tall Man.

World Travel 69
04-29-19, 01:49
Never leave home without drugs to keep you from getting sick.

In Quito I got sick and forgot to bring all the drugs I needed. I had to call my doctor to get the right drugs.


Is the tap water in the major cities I. E., Cali, Bogota, Santa Marta clean and safe to drink as it is in Mde?

Linyjo
04-29-19, 16:01
My advice as I have been to all these places and never gotten ill, knock on wood, in MDE and Bogota no problem but stay away from drinking the water in every other place. In Cartagena or Santa Marta or Cucuta or even Cali I don't even use the tap water to brush my teeth.

Worked for me so far.

The Tall Man.I never roll the dice and use tap water, unless I boil it first, like when cooking. I don't even drink the tap water at home, I run it through a filter.

When traveling, it is not necessarily that the water is "dirty". It is just treated differently and contains a different chemical make up than the water your body is used to. Even "clean" water can cause bowel irritation and stomach issues. I know people that get sick from drinking coca cola because of the different ingredients and the water used to manufacture.

Water is usually cheap no matter where you go, (except any Disney property, then it is $8 a bottle) you can buy 5 gallon jugs for a few bucks to drink at home base and you can refill travel sized bottles for when you go out and about. Don't risk ruining a trip over a few dollars worth of water. It is bad enough you can't avoid the ice at most times, no reason to play roulette and chug from a tap.

Mr Enternational
04-29-19, 18:24
I never roll the dice and use tap water, unless I boil it first, like when cooking. I don't even drink the tap water at home, I run it through a filter.

When traveling, it is not necessarily that the water is "dirty". It is just treated differently and contains a different chemical make up than the water your body is used to. Even "clean" water can cause bowel irritation and stomach issues.It has nothing to do with chemicals. It has to do with your body not being used to certain local bacteria. Purified water is used to make soft drinks. Go find some distilled water if you are scared.

Linyjo
04-29-19, 20:53
It has nothing to do with chemicals. It has to do with your body not being used to certain local bacteria. Purified water is used to make soft drinks. Go find some distilled water if you are scared.Bacteria is another issue that can cause irritation, it goes hand in hand with my comment about the chemical make up, kind of one in the same. Of course the chemical makeup of the water is different, that is just common sense.

As far as the coca cola, as I said, it is the different ingredients that can also cause some issues. Usually the sweeteners that are used. In Europe they use a beet sugar which alters the taste and also causes me irritation in my stomach.

I have never had any issues with bottled water, so I never had to take on the added costs of distilled water. I think 99.9% of people will be fine using bottled water instead.

The point was, don't drink the tap water, it's not worth saving a few bucks on bottled water.

Frenchieboy
04-30-19, 20:10
I have read that Avianca has big financial problem close to bankrut, many flights was cancelled last week.

I want to book domestics flights in Colombia but I am scared they cancelled them.

Do you have any news about that.

Thanks.

Linyjo
04-30-19, 20:13
I have read that Avianca has big financial problem close to bankrut, many flights was cancelled last week.

I want to book domestics flights in Colombia but I am scared they cancelled them.

Do you have any news about that.

Thanks.Avianca Brazil are the ones in financial trouble not Avianca Holdings. Avianca Brazila just licenses the name from Avianca.

No effect on Colombian flights.

Mr Enternational
04-30-19, 20:47
I have read that Avianca has big financial problem close to bankrut, many flights was cancelled last week.

I want to book domestics flights in Colombia but I am scared they cancelled them.

Do you have any news about that.

Thanks.That is Avianca Brasil. Totally different company.

Frenchieboy
04-30-19, 20:51
That is Avianca Brasil. Totally different company.Ok super many thanks for your answer so no problem for domestics flight in Colombia but I will also booked an avianca flight from Bogota to Rio Problem?

LionBacker
05-02-19, 11:46
I'm going to Medellin for a third time. Yet this will be the first time I will be staying in centro.

I am staying at Hotel Nutibara. I want to know how much it would generally cost.

For exit fee from the surrounding casas for girls and how to much should pay for TLN?

JjBee62
05-03-19, 01:41
I'm going to Medellin for a third time. Yet this will be the first time I will be staying in centro.

I am staying at Hotel Nutibara. I want to know how much it would generally cost.

For exit fee from the surrounding casas for girls and how to much should pay for TLN?I believe you can take girls out of Yakuza without an exit fee, to nearby hotels. However, I'm not sure about TLN charges. The general consensus is that you don't do TLN with an unknown girl. Nobody wants to pay the fee to spend the night with a starfish.

Find the girl you want at a casa. Do a 30 minute session with her. If she's what you want, ask her about TLN and get her WhatsApp. Most of the casas close at 7 or 8. Don't pay an exit fee. Just contact her at the end of her shift.

Generally speaking, TLN is double to triple the hourly rate. Make sure you specify the time when she can leave, number of shots and anything else you require. Otherwise, she's likely to spend an hour and expect to get paid the TLN rate and sent home.

World Travel 69
05-03-19, 17:43
I paid US $101 for three nights.

I think I had a special room on the 11th floor. There are only two rooms on that floor.

http://www.hotelnutibara.com/


I'm going to Medellin for a third time. Yet this will be the first time I will be staying in centro.

I am staying at Hotel Nutibara. I want to know how much it would generally cost.

For exit fee from the surrounding casas for girls and how to much should pay for TLN?

Uthred
05-14-19, 04:07
Hey guys,

I am planning a trip to Colombia but after reading through the countless posts I need some guidance or advice. In your opinion what is the best city for mongering in Colombia? I know this is highly subjective but are there advantages / disadvantages to certain cities? Also which city would you consider the safest and most laid back in Colombia? Like I said it will be my first time and I have no idea where to start. I spent hours the other day on the Medellin section and holy shit there is a ton of good info on that city alone. I'll keep browsing but I know some of you hit multiple areas there so I thought I'd ask.

Manizales911
05-14-19, 16:07
Hey guys,

I am planning a trip to Colombia but after reading through the countless posts I need some guidance or advice. In your opinion what is the best city for mongering in Colombia? I know this is highly subjective but are there advantages / disadvantages to certain cities? Also which city would you consider the safest and most laid back in Colombia? Like I said it will be my first time and I have no idea where to start. I spent hours the other day on the Medellin section and holy shit there is a ton of good info on that city alone. I'll keep browsing but I know some of you hit multiple areas there so I thought I'd ask.It is hard to give an accurate answer to your question without knowing a little about you and your intentions. How old are you, do you speak spanish, are you traveling alone or in a group, how many of you? Do you plan on doing tourist stuff? Budget? Those kind of things.

Manizales911
05-14-19, 16:12
I'm going to Medellin for a third time. Yet this will be the first time I will be staying in centro.

I am staying at Hotel Nutibara. I want to know how much it would generally cost.

For exit fee from the surrounding casas for girls and how to much should pay for TLN?You may want to check with Nutibara on their chica policy, if I remember correctly they do not allow chicas after a certain hour or they charge for chicas after a certain hour.

Uthred
05-14-19, 21:26
It is hard to give an accurate answer to your question without knowing a little about you and your intentions. How old are you, do you speak spanish, are you traveling alone or in a group, how many of you? Do you plan on doing tourist stuff? Budget? Those kind of things.Thanks for answering. I am in my mid 40's and I do speak enough Spanish to get by in any Latin country. I am traveling solo as of now but the max would be me and one other dude. That's kind of why I asked about the safest spots. I have hit Costa Rica, Panama, and Nicaragua alone and had no issues. The only kind of touristy stuff I like to do is hit the local spots with nice scenery for pictures. I never take those day trips or excursions. As far as budget goes well it does not matter to me. I am not looking for cheap or expensive. I am looking for a safe and fun good time. In my opinion that is more important than price if you know what I mean.

Mr Enternational
05-15-19, 02:42
Thanks for answering. I am in my mid 40's and I do speak enough Spanish to get by in any Latin country. I am traveling solo as of now but the max would be me and one other dude. That's kind of why I asked about the safest spots. I have hit Costa Rica, Panama, and Nicaragua alone and had no issues.You will have absolutely no problems in Colombia if you survived Nica alone. And there is tons more fun to be had than the other places you have been to.

Bango Cheito
05-15-19, 04:59
It has nothing to do with chemicals. It has to do with your body not being used to certain local bacteria. Purified water is used to make soft drinks. Go find some distilled water if you are scared.Just to weigh in on this, I've been to a good solid 90% of Colombia, NEVER had a problem with tap water here. This includes places where almost everybody tells you not to drink the water, like Cartagena, Villavicencio, Ibagué and Pasto.

In Bogota Medellin Cali Pereira and Manizales, the water is EXCELLENT, among the best water you'll ever even get out of a tap.

In contrast, in the DR I had a salad once and I was trapped in the bathroom for three whole days.

Tap water is the least of your worries down here.

IamLookin
05-15-19, 12:26
Good advice on clarifying the number of shots for TLN. When I was first new to the scene I met a beauty of a prepago. We had dinner before and agreed on TLN for a specified amount. I had cum twice and wanted to go again but she stopped me and said that would be extra she also quoted me a ridiculous price. I was so pissed that I told her to leave now. It was pouring rain and I let her find and pay her on cab ride back.


I believe you can take girls out of Yakuza without an exit fee, to nearby hotels. However, I'm not sure about TLN charges. The general consensus is that you don't do TLN with an unknown girl. Nobody wants to pay the fee to spend the night with a starfish.

Find the girl you want at a casa. Do a 30 minute session with her. If she's what you want, ask her about TLN and get her WhatsApp. Most of the casas close at 7 or 8. Don't pay an exit fee. Just contact her at the end of her shift.

Generally speaking, TLN is double to triple the hourly rate. Make sure you specify the time when she can leave, number of shots and anything else you require. Otherwise, she's likely to spend an hour and expect to get paid the TLN rate and sent home..

John Gault
05-15-19, 16:45
Good advice on clarifying the number of shots for TLN. When I was first new to the scene I met a beauty of a prepago. We had dinner before and agreed on TLN for a specified amount. I had cum twice and wanted to go again but she stopped me and said that would be extra she also quoted me a ridiculous price. I was so pissed that I told her to leave now. It was pouring rain and I let her find and pay her on cab ride back.

.Glad to see someone who did not pay for the girl to take a cab. Of course you did it for a reason. Now if you take a girl for 50 K or under than a gift for the cab is Ok. What I really don't understand is paying 200 or 300 K to a girl, and then think you also need to pay for her cab fare. I don't know about you other fellows, but I have worked at many different jobs in my life, and the boss never gave me cab fare.

Same with tips. Under 50 K for good service rates a tip by me. So in other words I consider a tip to a food service worker, but never to a owner.

I saw a post the other day where a guy paid I think it was 300 K plus a 80 K tip, and to round it out gave her cab fare. Why stop at that? Find out where she lives, and pay to have her house painted.

IamLookin
05-16-19, 12:30
The cab fare I always agree upon before the service. Some girls ask some do not. Sometimes I give them the fare even if they don't ask because the service was excellent and merits repeat visit. I never give more than 15 k for cab ride each way. In dollars that is around $4. 6 in dollars each way. I work in nyc and I can't even buy lunch for less than $15 dollars.


Glad to see someone who did not pay for the girl to take a cab. Of course you did it for a reason. Now if you take a girl for 50 K or under than a gift for the cab is Ok. What I really don't understand is paying 200 or 300 K to a girl, and then think you also need to pay for her cab fare. I don't know about you other fellows, but I have worked at many different jobs in my life, and the boss never gave me cab fare.

Same with tips. Under 50 K for good service rates a tip by me. So in other words I consider a tip to a food service worker, but never to a owner.

I saw a post the other day where a guy paid I think it was 300 K plus a 80 K tip, and to round it out gave her cab fare. Why stop at that? Find out where she lives, and pay to have her house painted..

Mr Enternational
05-16-19, 16:58
What I really don't understand is paying 200 or 300 K to a girl, and then think you also need to pay for her cab fare.That is the pussy effect. Who goes to an interview and asked how much are you guys giving me in order to get back and forth from home to the job. You get there the best way you can. Those broads can walk for all I care. If a guy was coming over to work on your plumbing you would not say here is an extra whatever for the gas you used getting here and going back to the shop.

BKKguru
05-16-19, 17:27
I saw a post the other day where a guy paid I think it was 300 K plus a 80 K tip, and to round it out gave her cab fare. Why stop at that? Find out where she lives, and pay to have her house painted.It does appear this guy went overboard. However, the reasons / motivation as to why he did this could be any of the following:

@ The girl did something (for him), which no other girl had done in the last X months.
@ The girl reminded him of his first High School girlfriend.
@ The girl was the BEST in bed.
@ The girl's hardship story was genuine and this was her first time in the business.
@ The guy is from Wall Street. Paying US $50 for Tip and Taxi does not merit a second thought.

You and I will never understand why people overpay. However, it will continue to happen until this Planet is in existence. Guaranteed.

~BKKguru.

The Cane
05-26-19, 16:05
Up front he notes that it's Avianca Brazil that's in financial trouble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ve1s28ules..

BKKguru
05-27-19, 16:50
United Airlines has ousted the Chairman of Avianca Colombia and replaced several Board members.
This was a messy Boardroom battle which appears to have run its course.

Details:
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/avianca-replaces-efromovich-with-kriete-as-board-cha-458469/

~BKKguru

Lew Ashby
06-07-19, 07:13
BMs,

Gearing up for my first Colombia trip as my friends say I need to give thailand a break haha. So a newbie buddy from South Florida is joining me who claims an ex co-worker (Yada Yada Yada LOL) told him about some casa in Colombia that draws your blood and once determined disease free you can proceed on barebacking the girls of the house. I told him I highly doubt there is such a thing, but I've learned to never say never.

Yes, I get stds have an incubation period.

Yes, I agree that it would still be risky for both sides.

Yes, I am expecting some GTFO responses.

Yes, I would most likely partake in something like thsi if it was on the table LOL.

Any of you heard of any of this?

Thanks,

Delusional Lew.

Mr Enternational
06-07-19, 07:38
So a newbie buddy from South Florida is joining me who claims an ex co-worker (Yada Yada Yada LOL) told him about some casa in Colombia that draws your blood and once determined disease free you can proceed on barebacking the girls of the house. I told him I highly doubt there is such a thing, but I've learned to never say never.I don't see what the big deal is with BB like it is some unicorn. In the last 14 years I have fucked like 100 normal chicks in Colombia and only 2 that I can remember have insisted on a condom. So if you are so in need of BB just find a regular chick instead of a hooker.

JjBee62
06-07-19, 08:48
BMs,

Gearing up for my first Colombia trip as my friends say I need to give thailand a break haha. So a newbie buddy from South Florida is joining me who claims an ex co-worker (Yada Yada Yada LOL) told him about some casa in Colombia that draws your blood and once determined disease free you can proceed on barebacking the girls of the house. I told him I highly doubt there is such a thing, but I've learned to never say never.

Yes, I get stds have an incubation period.

Yes, I agree that it would still be risky for both sides.

Yes, I am expecting some GTFO responses..1. What kind of fool would allow anyone at a casa, especially one which provides condom free sex, to stick a needle in them?

2. What kind of fool would believe that any casa has a complete hospital lab inside?

3. What kind of fool would specifically go to a casa where everyone goes to have bareback sex?

Bareback sex is readily available. You would know this if you read the forum.

Manizales911
06-07-19, 14:47
I don't see what the big deal is with BB like it is some unicorn. In the last 14 years I have fucked like 100 normal chicks in Colombia and only 2 that I can remember have insisted on a condom. So if you are so in need of BB just find a regular chick instead of a hooker.Many hookers will do BB too, not most but enough, I haven't used a condom in 5 years and I only go with hookers and "semi" pros, I'm too old and fat to get a regular girl, LOL.

Camaro Dude
06-08-19, 09:55
Many hookers will do BB too, not most but enough, I haven't used a condom in 5 years and I only go with hookers and "semi" pros, I'm too old and fat to get a regular girl, LOL.So for me I can't imagine not using a condom, with a pro or a non-pro. Has anyone ever had an issue not having a condom available? Should I carry my own or do all the pros have them? Call me paranoid but if not in a LTR I can't go without one.

Wolfy81
06-09-19, 19:33
After spending the last 20 years travelling Asia and Africa, I have decided the give south America a go. I have wanted to travel there for years but always put it off due to my lack of Spanish (which iam currently learning). After numerous YouTube video and alot of excellent posts of this forum I have decided to try Colombia first.

Will spend a month, first stop Santa Fe Bogota, maybe 2 other stops like Pereira, and Medellin.

First question I won't have the time of work until January, is this a good time to visit I read it's high tourist season. Places like Thailand I always avoided in high season, to much competition and the prices increases everywhere is Colombia the same?

Also from all the trip reports I have read the scene is more on a st basis, which I normally prefer, however now and again I do like LT is this and option, if so do you have to use site like tinder.

Mr Enternational
06-09-19, 20:17
Places like Thailand I always avoided in high season, to much competition and the prices increases everywhereWhere did you get that from? I have been living in Thailand for 9 years and I am still giving chicks the same $30 for all night that I always have.

Wolfy81
06-09-19, 20:36
Where did you get that from? I have been living in Thailand for 9 years and I am still giving chicks the same $30 for all night that I always have.Girls prices in Thailand generally stay the same, referring to flights hotels bar fines. More the huge influx of tourist especially around Christmas. Not saying I still did not have a great time, however I still preferred May. November.

BKKguru
06-09-19, 23:15
Will spend a month, first stop Santa Fe Bogota, maybe 2 other stops like Pereira, and Medellin.
First question I won't have the time of work until January, is this a good time to visit I read it's high tourist season. Places like Thailand I always avoided in high season, to much competition and the prices increases everywhere is Colombia the same?.You will find better Hotel room rates AFTER January 10th. The other thing to remember is Bogota is cool year round. It will be cooler in January.

I do not know where you live and if you are used to cool temps at night. If you read the forum, you will find posts complaining about lack of heating, no blankets etc.
Pack clothing based on your personal tolerance.

BKKguru

JjBee62
06-09-19, 23:23
So for me I can't imagine not using a condom, with a pro or a non-pro. Has anyone ever had an issue not having a condom available? Should I carry my own or do all the pros have them? Call me paranoid but if not in a LTR I can't go without one.If you're depending on someone else to provide you with condoms, you're going to have problems.

If, and it's a big if, unless you're in a casa, the girl has a condom, it will be the cheapest brand and thick. Some places provide condoms, some places sell them at an inflated price, and they'll almost always be generics.

If you have a preferred brand, bring it, because it's unlikely you'll find it in Colombia. Always carry 1 or 2 with you and you won't have a problem.

Mr Enternational
06-10-19, 05:32
If you're depending on someone else to provide you with condoms, you're going to have problems. Some places provide condoms, some places sell them at an inflated price, and they'll almost always be generics.Never understand why people keep shooting in the dark to depend on others for their own comfort and security. If you know there is shit you need, if you know there is shit you like and prefer, then BRING IT WITH YOU! When you check into one of those ST rooms in Santa Fe or go upstairs at some of the strip clubs, they charge you extra for the condom. I show them that I have my own and give them their cheap ass tight shit back.

Camaro Dude
06-12-19, 04:41
Never understand why people keep shooting in the dark to depend on others for their own comfort and security. If you know there is shit you need, if you know there is shit you like and prefer, then BRING IT WITH YOU! When you check into one of those ST rooms in Santa Fe or go upstairs at some of the strip clubs, they charge you extra for the condom. I show them that I have my own and give them their cheap ass tight shit back.It was good that I asked then and thank you guys for your input. I just wanted to know if I could buy a bunch at a pharmacy there easily and if the brands are recognizable. I should have been more specific in my original post so that's on me. I don't have a preference in terms of kind, just a decent brand or I'd buy it from here.

Gezpen
06-16-19, 11:52
Hi,

Can anyone recommend a relaxing beach resort. From what I've read of Cartagena, there would be too many hawkers and hustlers for my liking. TIA.

Bango Cheito
06-17-19, 08:06
BMs,

Gearing up for my first Colombia trip as my friends say I need to give thailand a break haha. So a newbie buddy from South Florida is joining me who claims an ex co-worker (Yada Yada Yada LOL) told him about some casa in Colombia that draws your blood and once determined disease free you can proceed on barebacking the girls of the house. I told him I highly doubt there is such a thing, but I've learned to never say never.

Yes, I get stds have an incubation period.

Yes, I agree that it would still be risky for both sides.

Yes, I am expecting some GTFO responses.

Yes, I would most likely partake in something like thsi if it was on the table LOL.

Any of you heard of any of this?

Thanks,

Delusional Lew.Give us the name and address of the place.

I have seen MUCH stranger in my 15 years here but it still sounds ridiculous.

Fun Luvr
06-17-19, 18:53
Hi,

Can anyone recommend a relaxing beach resort. From what I've read of Cartagena, there would be too many hawkers and hustlers for my liking. TIA.If you have your own "sand", look at Tolu. It is down the west coast from Cartegena. It's a rather quaint area and very relaxing. I stayed at Centro Vacacional Camino Verde. Nice beach and rooms, but not much else.

JjBee62
06-18-19, 01:18
For reasons which I'll explain in a few weeks, I called my bank today to check on their exchange rate for Colombian pesos. The woman wanted to know how much I wanted to buy. I told her to tell me how many pesos I could get for $300. Simple enough.

A few seconds later she tells me, 20,000 pesos for $300. She wasn't willing to consider that she did something wrong, even when I explained that 20,000 was less than $7. Finally I convinced her to try again and walked her through the process. I still didn't get an answer I was happy with, but it was at least the correct one. Their rate is about 14% under the current rate. Definitely not a bargain.

Cbmcpa
06-18-19, 22:38
Latina angeR.

One Latina I've been speaking to online seems pretty mad at me and said she didn't want to talk to me again. Did nothing wrong. Just couldn't do something she wanted on time so created a fuss. She Seems really nice and don't want to lose her over something so stupid. Should I just wait and hope she texts back? I think maybe I'm blocked but it was random.I'm in conctact with a non "prepago" that I met. Have been 3 x to MDE. Looking for a g / f in her. As it turns out, she really just wants $ from me. Once that drys up. They will change their tune. Mgmnt at the Mansion mentioned that 80% will be only after your $ . And if they ask for $ (80% will) delete their number. I thought I had the 20% - not so much. Good luck.

KPP79
06-19-19, 14:32
I have been to Costa Rica 3 times. Every time I go my favorite girls are Colombians. They are best looking any way IMO. I was hoping it would be my next destination. It being easier to get to and all from the states. It just seems to me every other post on here about Colombia is some one being drugged, robbed, shot, stabbed or you can't go here or there. On top of that I will more than likely be solo. So I guess I will have to go ahead and shoot for Thailand. Please if I am wrong or missing something let me know I welcome all info and opinions. Thanks!

JjBee62
06-20-19, 01:31
I have been to Costa Rica 3 times. Every time I go my favorite girls are Colombians. They are best looking any way IMO. I was hoping it would be my next destination. It being easier to get to and all from the states. It just seems to me every other post on here about Colombia is some one being drugged, robbed, shot, stabbed or you can't go here or there. On top of that I will more than likely be solo. So I guess I will have to go ahead and shoot for Thailand. Please if I am wrong or missing something let me know I welcome all info and opinions. Thanks!I'm kind of baffled. Others have better information, but my meager research makes me feel that the difference between Thailand and Colombia isn't that great when it comes to safety. Especially if you want some place easily accessible from the US and your favorites are Colombians.

Is it too dangerous? Yes. Absolutely. At least according to some people. Some will try to convince you that, you'll be lucky to survive a trip to Colombia. Personally I don't like to rely on luck.

Do you like to walk in a bar and drink until you can barely stand? If so, Colombia is too dangerous. You might get away with it a time or two, but eventually someone will relieve you of your valuables.

Do you believe all foreigners are terrified of doing anything against you because you're from the US? If so, Colombia is too dangerous for you. Most of the Colombians I know have a generally positive view of the US, but they aren't worried Uncle Sam is going to swoop in to save a gringo.

Do you insist on wearing your designer sunglasses and shiny jewelry everywhere you go? Do you like to have your new iPhone in your hand so everyone knows you're hip. If so, Colombia is too dangerous for you. There are plenty of Colombians who will look even cooler with all your accessories.

Or, do you take some responsibility for your own security? If so, do some research and you should be fine.

SethMacfarlane
06-20-19, 03:05
I have been to Costa Rica 3 times. Every time I go my favorite girls are Colombians. They are best looking any way IMO. I was hoping it would be my next destination. It being easier to get to and all from the states. It just seems to me every other post on here about Colombia is some one being drugged, robbed, shot, stabbed or you can't go here or there. On top of that I will more than likely be solo. So I guess I will have to go ahead and shoot for Thailand. Please if I am wrong or missing something let me know I welcome all info and opinions. Thanks!Like any place, even in the US, you need to be aware of your surroundings. I just got back from MDE / BOG / CTG and felt completely safe. I went with four other buddies and we didn't have any issue. Women were readily available but my friends really aren't into the scene so I can't report on any ladies this time around. The biggest thing is to know some Spanish but even then I saw plenty of Americans communicating with ladies via google translate and all went well. I'the say Medellin would be good for a first timer. Tons of ladies available at parque Lleras, hell, some even catcalled me in English: o. I'm going solo next year. So much pussy to be had there!

SethMacfarlane
06-20-19, 03:10
Hi,

Can anyone recommend a relaxing beach resort. From what I've read of Cartagena, there would be too many hawkers and hustlers for my liking. TIA.The Conrad Cartagena is great. Their section of the beach is private, so no need to worry about hawkers. Also, there are usually ladies in T backs for you admire while you sip on a Pina colada.

Fun Luvr
06-20-19, 04:14
I have been to Costa Rica 3 times. Every time I go my favorite girls are Colombians. They are best looking any way IMO. I was hoping it would be my next destination. It being easier to get to and all from the states. It just seems to me every other post on here about Colombia is some one being drugged, robbed, shot, stabbed or you can't go here or there. On top of that I will more than likely be solo. I have been going to Medellin for nine years (39 times), always solo after the first two times. I haven't been robbed, drugged, or harmed in any way. I am an old guy, so I can't outrun hardly anyone. Use common sense and you should be fine. Also, I have stayed at the Mansion for two nights, that's all.

Charm City Dave
06-20-19, 15:46
I have been to Costa Rica 3 times. Every time I go my favorite girls are Colombians. They are best looking any way IMO. I was hoping it would be my next destination. It being easier to get to and all from the states. It just seems to me every other post on here about Colombia is some one being drugged, robbed, shot, stabbed or you can't go here or there. On top of that I will more than likely be solo. So I guess I will have to go ahead and shoot for Thailand. Please if I am wrong or missing something let me know I welcome all info and opinions. Thanks!I have been traveling for pussy for over 25 years. Brazil, Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic, Argentina, Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia. I have been to 37 countries but I visited each of these countries multiple times principally to play. I am a reasonably cautious traveler, but I'm not going to walk around so scared that I have a bad trip and project the fear that will attract the sharks like blood in the water. I'm returning to Medellin for the 11th time in July. Everything tends to go back in the safe when I get home, I watch my drinks, I'm careful who I take and where I stay. Over the 25 years, over 100 trips and thousands of girls I was held up once at gun point in Brazil (2001), had a cell phone stolen in Bangkok (2012) and was drugged and robbed once in MDE (2018). In each case I let my guard down for a moment and the shark pounced. As an old Brazilian Girlfriend told me, I walk like John Wayne and they can see me coming a mile away. I'm very big and very white and I don't blend regardless of what I wear. I can't remember how many times they attempted to get me but I avoided it. I have clamped down on hands entering my pockets, poured out drinks I have let out of my sight, taken a cab to go four blocks at night, barely escaped a wolf pack of street kids in Rio and in once case decked a persistent snatch and grab artist in Buenos Aires. Perhaps one day I will write my memoirs LOL.

Tokyo tops the list as the world's safest city. That is where you go if you want safety (and sushi). Though you are going to pay at least eight times what you will pay in Medellin to get laid once, less than what I lost in any of those 3 incidents. I remember years ago someone following me (I'm sure to) rob me in San Jose late at night. I ducked into a Casino to loose him and then took a taxi home. That said I think MDE is only moderately more dangerous than San Jose. In my mind the quality and quantity of girls, the vastly superior food and infrastructure more than offset perhaps a small additional risk. Carry only what you are willing to loose, consider a theft resistant like PacSafe bag to carry your stuff, stay in a safe building with security that validates and records ID, don't be flashy, don't get drunk in public (being solo) and don't walk down deserted streets at night. Almost everyone who gets bit (including me), let their guard down for at least a moment. Announce your trip here in ISG and perhaps you can acquire a wingman.

Cbmcpa
06-21-19, 00:20
Hi, have been to MDE once. Poblado - want to go back and stay in centro (as my budget is more situated to centro's Prepago pricing) . Can you tell us how your stay was? Thanks.

PirateMorgan
06-21-19, 16:06
You shouldn't come to Colombia. There is too much life here for you.

KPP79
06-21-19, 16:43
I appreciate all the help and info from you all. It sounds to me like I need to follow the same guidelines and precautions I used when I went to Costa Rica and all should be fine. As most of you have pointed out. I may even try to find a wingman off of here on my first trip.

Magaman
06-21-19, 16:55
FYI If you sign up for Charles Schwab via a link from creditdonkey or some such website for a $100 promo when you place $1000 in a brokerage account Schwab will refuse to honor the deal. You need to get a referral link from somebody with an actual Schwab account so asking somebody here like one of the big info provider guys is probably the way to go.

Bango Cheito
06-24-19, 09:52
I appreciate all the help and info from you all. It sounds to me like I need to follow the same guidelines and precautions I used when I went to Costa Rica and all should be fine. As most of you have pointed out. I may even try to find a wingman off of here on my first trip.One other important piece of info:

If you're in a Colombian city and just want to p4 p, it's WAY safer than going out to normal bars solo.

The former, no problem. The major p4 p places will look after your security. The regular bars, not so much.

The WORST are the regular bars that aren't officially fuck spots, but have prepagos hanging around. Definitely AVOID those if you're flying solo.

MiamiSammy
06-27-19, 14:10
Hi, have been to MDE once. Poblado - want to go back and stay in centro (as my budget is more situated to centro's Prepago pricing) . Can you tell us how your stay was? Thanks.My first time in Medellin I stayed right downtown on Calle 51 at Hotel Calle Real. The price was right, the rooms nice and roomy, the staff friendly, and the place was secure. The police presence around Botero Plaza is pretty active and it's well lit. While you can certainly get in some trouble if you're a dar papaya, I liked staying in El Centro immensely. There's a restaurant on the second floor above the pastry shop on the SE corner, and you can sit up there with some coffee and watch the entire city of Medellin go by. You're two blocks from Puta Street, and you get to enjoy the wonderful Botero statue garden. I have a friend in Laureles that I generally stay with now, but I still spend a lot of time hanging out in El Centro. I don't like El Poblado at all- too touristy for me.

MiamiSammy
06-27-19, 14:11
FYI If you sign up for Charles Schwab via a link from creditdonkey or some such website for a $100 promo when you place $1000 in a brokerage account Schwab will refuse to honor the deal. You need to get a referral link from somebody with an actual Schwab account so asking somebody here like one of the big info provider guys is probably the way to go.WTF are you talking about, and what does it have to do with mongering?

MiamiSammy
06-27-19, 14:20
I have been traveling for pussy for over 25 years. Brazil, Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic, Argentina, Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia. I have been to 37 countries but I visited each of these countries multiple times principally to play. I am a reasonably cautious traveler, but I'm not going to walk around so scared that I have a bad trip and project the fear that will attract the sharks like blood in the water. I'm returning to Medellin for the 11th time in July. Everything tends to go back in the safe when I get home, I watch my drinks, I'm careful who I take and where I stay. Over the 25 years, over 100 trips and thousands of girls I was held up once at gun point in Brazil (2001), had a cell phone stolen in Bangkok (2012) and was drugged and robbed once in MDE (2018). In each case I let my guard down for a moment and the shark pounced. As an old Brazilian Girlfriend told me, I walk like John Wayne and they can see me coming a mile away. I'm very big and very white and I don't blend regardless of what I wear. I can't remember how many times they attempted to get me but I avoided it. I have clamped down on hands entering my pockets, poured out drinks I have let out of my sight, taken a cab to go four blocks at night, barely escaped a wolf pack of street kids in Rio and in once case decked a persistent snatch and grab artist in Buenos Aires. Perhaps one day I will write my memoirs LOL.

Tokyo tops the list as the world's safest city. That is where you go if you want safety (and sushi). Though you are going to pay at least eight times what you will pay in Medellin to get laid once, less than what I lost in any of those 3 incidents. I remember years ago someone following me (I'm sure to) rob me in San Jose late at night. I ducked into a Casino to loose him and then took a taxi home. That said I think MDE is only moderately more dangerous than San Jose. In my mind the quality and quantity of girls, the vastly superior food and infrastructure more than offset perhaps a small additional risk. Carry only what you are willing to loose, consider a theft resistant like PacSafe bag to carry your stuff, stay in a safe building with security that validates and records ID, don't be flashy, don't get drunk in public (being solo) and don't walk down deserted streets at night. Almost everyone who gets bit (including me), let their guard down for at least a moment. Announce your trip here in ISG and perhaps you can acquire a wingman.Great information- thanks for posting. I too have traveled extensively and had little problems. I just got back from SE Asia last winter, and realized my think is for Latinas, not Asians. Of all things, it was the language, especially in Thailand, that bugged me. There's a shrillness to the language, and the fact every sentence ends with "kaaaaa" that I found a bit abrasive. Give me those sultry, sexy paisas any day of the week!

I especially liked the "walk like John Wayne" part- certainly one of my tactics. Like you, I"m big, white, and while a big teddy bear in reality, have no problem projecting a presence that doesn't encourage bullshit. I also carry a small pepper spray canister with me that I had to use on some trannies in MDE once. The most problem I had (although arguably the best mongering site in the world) was in Tijuana. As you said, it was a case of letting your guard down and not being completely aware of your circumstances.

Thanks again for posting- I'll be down in MDE the last half of November. Let me know if you'll be in town and I'll buy the first round.

MiamiSammy
06-27-19, 15:01
I have been going to Medellin for nine years (39 times), always solo after the first two times. I haven't been robbed, drugged, or harmed in any way. I am an old guy, so I can't outrun hardly anyone. Use common sense and you should be fine. Also, I have stayed at the Mansion for two nights, that's all.Fellow old guy here- I'm planning on staying only a couple days in MDE this time so I can spend more time actually seeing a little bit of Colombia. I thought since I was only going to be there a short time I might try the Mansion out for the first time. Any thoughts, yea or nay?

MiamiSammy
06-27-19, 15:10
I had almost forgotten about this- last time I was in MDE I had some USD I needed to change, and for some reason I couldn't find any Casa de Cambios in El Centro (WTF? What happened to them? Anyway, I was directed to one of the really tall buildings on the east side of Parque Berrio. Security guy at the door asks me what I want- I was told I need to speak to "The Russian". It was almost like out of a movie. I get in the elevator, go upstairs, the floor seems abandoned. I go to the door number the security guy told me, knocked, and could hear this guy walking slowly across the full expanse of a hardwood floor. Again, like out of a movie. The guy is so stereotypically Russian looking- wife beater, suspenders, funky glasses and a big wart right between his eyes. He's got pictures of him in his prime, wearing his military uniform on the walls- lots of chicken feathers on the bill of his hat and all kinds of medals. Right in the middle is a great big framed picture of Putin in his prime. The transaction goes smoothly- he won't accept any bills unless they're new and clean- and I get out of there. It looked and felt far more dramatic than it really was, but the whole time I felt like the archetypical dar papaya. But when you need cash, you need cash. End of story.

Fun Luvr
06-27-19, 18:53
Fellow old guy here- I'm planning on staying only a couple days in MDE this time so I can spend more time actually seeing a little bit of Colombia. I thought since I was only going to be there a short time I might try the Mansion out for the first time. Any thoughts, yea or nay?For only two days, I think you should stay at the Mansion so you can have first-hand knowledge of the place. I had heard so much good about it, about the abundance of beautiful chicas and the social scene, I wanted to experience it first hand. I have friends who used to work there, and some are very pretty. I was disappointed. The only aspects of the Mansion that was average or above average was the receptionist at Mansion 1 (friendliness and looks) and the cleaning ladies at Mansion 2 (for friendliness and efficiency, not looks).

Magaman
06-28-19, 23:24
It's been suggested in this forum, by reliable sources not me, to use Charles Schwab debit at ATMS in Colombia. They either have no foreign transaction fees or they reimburse for them? It's one of the two I don't remember. Comprende amigo?


WTF are you talking about, and what does it have to do with mongering?

JjBee62
06-29-19, 13:00
It's been suggested in this forum, by reliable sources not me, to use Charles Schwab debit at ATMS in Colombia. They either have no foreign transaction fees or they reimburse for them? It's one of the two I don't remember. Comprende amigo?Well yes, but I don't see too many of the guys here giving out a referral link to a stranger, which connects to their bank.

The Tall Man
06-29-19, 22:58
It's been suggested in this forum, by reliable sources not me, to use Charles Schwab debit at ATMS in Colombia. They either have no foreign transaction fees or they reimburse for them? It's one of the two I don't remember. Comprende amigo?CS reimburses any ATM fees, you will see it at the end of each month PLUS the rate they give you for Colombian pesos when you withdraw at an ATM is excellent. I was turned onto CS about 2 years ago and also highly recommend them.

The Tall Man.

Bango Cheito
07-01-19, 12:08
It's been suggested in this forum, by reliable sources not me, to use Charles Schwab debit at ATMS in Colombia. They either have no foreign transaction fees or they reimburse for them? It's one of the two I don't remember. Comprende amigo?They have no charges themselves, and they reimburse you the OTHER bank's fees at the beginning of every month.

PirateMorgan
07-01-19, 13:47
Schwab does not determine the conversion rate. The owner of your ATM does.

The Tall Man
07-01-19, 19:01
Schwab does not determine the conversion rate. The owner of your ATM does.This maybe true, but when I purchase an item using my Schwab card at either Exito or Home Center or where ever I get an outstanding conversion rate, so who rate is this?

The Tall Man.

Magaman
07-01-19, 22:26
Well yes, but I don't see too many of the guys here giving out a referral link to a stranger, which connects to their bank.If that's a fear someone has then don't get a referral link, or get one from someone you know. My main point was that using a link from the internet wasn't valid and Schwab will refuse to honor it.

BKKguru
07-02-19, 01:24
This maybe true, but when I purchase an item using my Schwab card at either Exito or Home Center or where ever I get an outstanding conversion rate, so who rate is this? I do not use Charles Schwab. But this is how it works:

Your conversion rate is determined by the InterBank Rate.
This is a "wholesale" rate because it's the rate that banks use when they are trading foreign currencies with *other banks*.

The conversion rate you see online is the InterBank Rate. However, you will NEVER get the InterBank rate.
The Banks have to make money, so they have a mark-up. On average, banks can mark up an exchange rate by 3-6%. This mark-up is not publicized.

InterBank rates fluctuate through out the day. They change based on several factors like Geo-political events, Interest rates, Trade deficit, National elections etc.
Usually Banks use the Interbank rate at the end of the business day to calculate your conversion rate. This is public information. You can ask Schwab about their InterBank rate.

BKKguru

PirateMorgan
07-02-19, 04:47
Schwab has no interbank conversion. That is not their business. It is not that complicated. You withdraw 500,000 pesos. The bank here decides how much it is going to charge your USA Bank for the 500,000. Period. You are debited the charge. With CapOne within about 2 seconds. It hits the US account before I can walk away from the machine.

BKKguru
07-03-19, 22:15
"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave. ".

Happy 4th to all mongers from and in the USA!

BKKguru

Pilot Pete
07-04-19, 04:15
Schwab has no interbank conversion. That is not their business. It is not that complicated. You withdraw 500,000 pesos. The bank here decides how much it is going to charge your USA Bank for the 500,000. Period. You are debited the charge. With CapOne within about 2 seconds. It hits the US account before I can walk away from the machine.For a couple month stay, does it make sense to set up an account with any particular banks?

GreenBud
07-05-19, 00:09
The bank here decides how much it is going to charge your USA Bank for the 500,000.Incorrect. All the banks use the same electronic exchange rate. There is no way I would blindly trust a 3rd world bank to give me a fair rate. The cash exchange rate is determined by the bank / exchange center; but those numbers are posted.

The exchange rate has been the same between all the ATMs on the same day in every country I've been to and tested. In addition, the exchange rate between my debit card and my visa card is virtually the same; sometimes there is a negligible difference.

People might be getting confused because you have to subtract all the fees to calculate the exchange rate. Your bank potentially has multiple fees. The owner of the ATM usually has fees; those should not be used to calculate the exchange rate.

PirateMorgan
07-05-19, 01:12
People might be getting confused because you have to subtract all the fees to calculate the exchange rate. Your bank potentially has multiple fees. The owner of the ATM usually has fees; those should not be used to calculate the exchange rate:

Respectfully, I disagree. Many times I have received more than the current rate posted on X-rates. Multiple fees or not (my Colombian bank has none charged) I have received different rates on the same day from 2 different banks. But in the end the contra bank has no say so in the transaction. It is determined here in Colombia.

Fun Luvr
07-05-19, 05:06
For a couple month stay, does it make sense to set up an account with any particular banks?If you frequently travel to any place that doesn't have a branch of your bank, it is worth setting up a Schwab account. It doesn't cost anything and the amount you are required to keep in the account is very little. There are no fees; they even pay you interest on the money you keep in their bank.

Pilot Pete
07-05-19, 06:53
If you frequently travel to any place that doesn't have a branch of your bank, it is worth setting up a Schwab account. It doesn't cost anything and the amount you are required to keep in the account is very little. There are no fees; they even pay you interest on the money you keep in their bank.Thank you for that. I have investment accounts with them, but never thought of them as a bank. I guess I will see my broker soon. Thanks again.

Bango Cheito
07-05-19, 08:45
I do not use Charles Schwab. But this is how it works:

Your conversion rate is determined by the InterBank Rate.
This is a "wholesale" rate because it's the rate that banks use when they are trading foreign currencies with *other banks*.

The conversion rate you see online is the InterBank Rate. However, you will NEVER get the InterBank rate.
The Banks have to make money, so they have a mark-up. On average, banks can mark up an exchange rate by 3-6%. This mark-up is not publicized.

InterBank rates fluctuate through out the day. They change based on several factors like Geo-political events, Interest rates, Trade deficit, National elections etc.
Usually Banks use the Interbank rate at the end of the business day to calculate your conversion rate. This is public information. You can ask Schwab about their InterBank rate.

~BKKguruI often get what xe says to be the interbank rate or better with my Schwab card.

Other banks (US, non Schwab) will typically charge a fee OVER AND ABOVE what the ATM's bank charges you. This doesn't show up anywhere, it's incorporated into the rate they give you.

Mr Enternational
07-05-19, 16:08
Thank you for that. I have investment accounts with them, but never thought of them as a bank. I guess I will see my broker soon. Thanks again.You don't need to see a broker. You just go online and link a checking account to your brokerage account and get them to send you a debit card.

Zeos1
07-06-19, 05:01
People might be getting confused because you have to subtract all the fees to calculate the exchange rate. Your bank potentially has multiple fees. The owner of the ATM usually has fees; those should not be used to calculate the exchange rate:

Respectfully, I disagree. Many times I have received more than the current rate posted on X-rates. Multiple fees or not (my Colombian bank has none charged) I have received different rates on the same day from 2 different banks. But in the end the contra bank has no say so in the transaction. It is determined here in Colombia.There's certainly no end of confusion on this subject. I know that all the Canadian banks set their own exchange rates by adding between 2.5 and more percent to the mid market exchange rate. They buy and sell at something close to the mid market rate. Probably close to the published buy / sell numbers. When I withdraw money from an ATM in Colombia or wherever I pay whatever fees the ATM charges (sometimes nothing) plus the fees my bank charges ($5/ per transaction from a foreign ATM or bank) plus the 2.5 or more percent my bank collects. Whether they pay some of that to the foreign bank or not I'm not sure of. But when I check conversion rates that's how it seems to roll.

Also, I doubt you ever get more than the mid market rate in reality. Likely you are comparing the wrong numbers. For example you do a transaction at 2 in the afternoon, but the currency has changed by the end of the day, etc. I have noticed this when I check back. The quoted rates are end of day usually, sometimes average for the day. And your bank may use the rate plus their markup from a specific time.

I don't know how American banks do it. But I believe that in Canada it is my bank that determines the exchange rate. The Colombian bank on the other end gets pesos for pesos in effect. My bank exchanges the Canadian bucks for pesos and sends the pesos to the Colombian bank and its ATM.

Bango Cheito
07-09-19, 08:18
There's certainly no end of confusion on this subject. I know that all the Canadian banks set their own exchange rates by adding between 2.5 and more percent to the mid market exchange rate. They buy and sell at something close to the mid market rate. Probably close to the published buy / sell numbers. When I withdraw money from an ATM in Colombia or wherever I pay whatever fees the ATM charges (sometimes nothing) plus the fees my bank charges ($5/ per transaction from a foreign ATM or bank) plus the 2.5 or more percent my bank collects. Whether they pay some of that to the foreign bank or not I'm not sure of. But when I check conversion rates that's how it seems to roll.

Also, I doubt you ever get more than the mid market rate in reality. Likely you are comparing the wrong numbers. For example you do a transaction at 2 in the afternoon, but the currency has changed by the end of the day, etc. I have noticed this when I check back. The quoted rates are end of day usually, sometimes average for the day. And your bank may use the rate plus their markup from a specific time.

I don't know how American banks do it. But I believe that in Canada it is my bank that determines the exchange rate. The Colombian bank on the other end gets pesos for pesos in effect. My bank exchanges the Canadian bucks for pesos and sends the pesos to the Colombian bank and its ATM.I've lived all over Canada and the US. If you really knew how much worse Canadian banks are compared to your US counterparts you'd probably burst into tears, and then immediately figure out how you could get a Schwab account. .

JjBee62
07-11-19, 04:14
Before this trip I decided to fully explore the money exchange issue. Which one really is best? YMMV on this. I don't have a Scwab card. My ATM withdrawal was using a card from a major US bank.

The Medellin airport rate was 2400-$1. That's a cost of 25.1% to exchange money at the airport.

Buying pesos directly from my bank. Their rate on that day was 2755-$1 at a cost of 16%.

Now to the methods I actually used.

A few weeks prior to my trip I sent 1 million pesos to my old roommate. This won't work for most, because most don't know anyone they can trust. My reasoning was to have an emergency fund. If I got robbed, lost my card, or had a bank problem, I'd at least have enough to eat.

Sending Western Union rate was 2966.83-$1 at a cost of 8. 5%.

When I reached Medellin I withdrew 1,020,000 from a Davivienda ATM. Rate was 3011.42-$1. Cost was 6%.

Today I exchanged $300 for 918000, rate of 3060, cost of 4. 5%.

The cost value is how much under that day'srate I received.

I didn't check every casa de cambios. Checked 2 and picked the best rate. Based on my experience, with my bank, the casa de cambio is the best bargain.

If you're getting under 4. 5% cost from your bank, you're beating the system.

Arcangel
07-11-19, 16:08
If you're getting under 4. 5% cost from your bank, you're beating the system.It amazes me how everybody is getting ripped off by their banks.

My bank in europe gives me a Visa credit card with no yearly fee, no foreign transaction charges and no ATM charges at any ATM worldwide. They don't reimburse any charges that the ATM puts on top, but there are enough free ATMs in Coombia: Banco Pichincha (1000 k per withdrawal), Banco Caja Social (700 k), Davivienda (400 k).

I just checked my bank statement and compared the exchange rate I got to the day's interbank rate. It's always almost the same, less than 0. 5% difference. I got 1 EUR = 3605 COP on 7/7/2019.
So I'm happy with the deal I'm getting. You guys need to shop around for a decent bank.

I get the same rate when using the card to pay for purchases which I rarely do to keep my card out of harm's way. Because my card is mission crutical, and it has bern blocked on occasions, I carry another card as backup. A Master Card from a different bank, also free yearly and worldwide with excellent exchange rate.

The best way to transfer money to a Colombian bank account that I've found is xend.com, a new fintec grom UK. They have great rates and low fees. For Colombia you need to send as USD which Bancolombia will convert to pesos minus about 2%.

Western Union makes me sick, taking from the poor to give to the rich.

JjBee62
07-11-19, 17:08
It amazes me how everybody is getting ripped off by their banks.

My bank in europe gives me a Visa credit card with no yearly fee, no foreign transaction charges and no ATM charges at any ATM worldwide. They don't reimburse any charges that the ATM puts on top, but there are enough free ATMs in Coombia: Banco Pichincha (1000 k per withdrawal), Banco Caja Social (700 k), Davivienda (400 k).

I just checked my bank statement and compared the exchange rate I got to the day's interbank rate. It's always almost the same, less than 0. 5% difference. I got 1 EUR = 3605 COP on 7/7/2019.
So I'm happy with the deal I'm getting. You guys need to shop around for a decent bank.

I get the same rate when using the card to pay for purchases which I rarely do to keep my card out of harm's way. Because my card is mission crutical, and it has bern blocked on occasions, I carry another card as backup. A Master Card from a different bank, also free yearly and worldwide with excellent exchange rate.

The best way to transfer money to a Colombian bank account that I've found is xend.com, a new fintec grom UK. They have great rates and low fees. For Colombia you need to send as USD which Bancolombia will convert to pesos minus about 2%.

Western Union makes me sick, taking from the poor to give to the rich.I'm fairly certain banking regulations in Europe are different from banking regulations in the US. European banks probably do a lot more foreign currency transactions as well.

Currently, living in a rural area, my best option has 1 branch 40 km away. A better option puts me 100+ km away from an office, in the wrong direction. And I've found that the farther I live from an actual branch the more likely I will need to visit the branch.

Moving to Europe and commuting weekly to work in the US seems like a bad deal to save 4% on 3 transactions a year, but I would rack up the airline miles.

Mr Enternational
07-11-19, 17:40
Western Union makes me sick, taking from the poor to give to the rich.But in a monger's case, isn't the rich sending to the poor? So they are taking from the rich horny walking ATMs to give to the rich.

Fun Luvr
07-12-19, 02:41
When I reached Medellin I withdrew 1,020,000 from a Davivienda ATM. Rate was 3011.42-$1. Cost was 6%.

Today I exchanged $300 for 918000, rate of 3060, cost of 4. 5%.During the last few trips in Medellin, I have received rates at the ATM's that are almost the same as the xe.com rates of two days prior to my transaction. I have checked those rates for every withdrawal and it stays true. I use a Schwab card and ATM's at Davivienda and BBVA (rates are the same at those banks).

Now I am confused by the rate you received at Davivienda. I think you stated in another post that you arrived Sunday. Using my method of calculation, you should have received Thursday's rate, which was 3196. Sunday's rate was 3211. It appears that the rate is determined by the bank that issues the card because I have never had that much of a difference using the Schwab card.

JjBee62
07-12-19, 05:16
During the last few trips in Medellin, I have received rates at the ATM's that are almost the same as the xe.com rates of two days prior to my transaction. I have checked those rates for every withdrawal and it stays true. I use a Schwab card and ATM's at Davivienda and BBVA (rates are the same at those banks).

Now I am confused by the rate you received at Davivienda. I think you stated in another post that you arrived Sunday. Using my method of calculation, you should have received Thursday's rate, which was 3196. Sunday's rate was 3211. It appears that the rate is determined by the bank that issues the card because I have never had that much of a difference using the Schwab card.I should clear that up. That was the actual rate I received after my bank threw in their charges, not the rate charged by the bank. I also didn't note the xe rate at time of withdrawal and may be slightly off. Using your numbers I get 5.8%. If I remember correctly, my bank charges 5% in fees for foreign ATMs, which puts the bank rate 0. 8%. My interest was in comparing my actual costs of the different methods.

If you're using a no fee card, ATMs are your best option. If you're using a card that charges fees, Casas de Cambios might be a better option.

One other note is that the Davivienda ATM had a maximum withdrawal of 2 million.

Fun Luvr
07-12-19, 20:32
One other note is that the Davivienda ATM had a maximum withdrawal of 2 million.What number do you input to the ATM to get a higher amount than their standard displayed amounts? I have tried, but have always been rejected. Do you ignore the two zeros to the right of the decimal that are displayed. Now I just select the 320,000 and make two withdrawals. That always works, but there's usually people waiting to use the ATM and I feel bad about taking more time to do two withdrawals.

JjBee62
07-12-19, 21:22
What number do you input to the ATM to get a higher amount than their standard displayed amounts? I have tried, but have always been rejected. Do you ignore the two zeros to the right of the decimal that are displayed. Now I just select the 320,000 and make two withdrawals. That always works, but there's usually people waiting to use the ATM and I feel bad about taking more time to do two withdrawals.I was just with a guy today and Davivienda only let him pull 400 k. I didn't try that ATM, but when I go to withdraw 1,020,000 and 2,000,000 are my 2 highest options.

Pilot Pete
07-13-19, 04:39
When I translate (Google Translate) it seems the women want a "retailer". When they read my profile or I say something nice to them they tell me I am a "Retailer". A man with a job? Smooth talker? Merchant?

Looking for IRL interpretation.

Arcangel
07-13-19, 16:16
Currently, living in a rural area, my best option has 1 branch 40 km away. My bank with the free Visa card doesn't have branches, it's online only. Is this kind of banking not common in the US these days? I closed my last account with a traditional bank some fifteen years ago, because they annoyed me. I haven't needed to visit a branch since.


If I remember correctly, my bank charges 5% in fees for foreign ATMsAs the European writer Brecht once noted: What is the robbing of a bank compared to the founding of a bank?


If you're using a no fee card, ATMs are your best option. If you're using a card that charges fees, Casas de Cambios might be a better option.Agreed, but you should really look for a better bank.


One other note is that the Davivienda ATM had a maximum withdrawal of 2 million.The withdrawal limit at Davivienda depends on the card. I've seen this. On my card (most cards, I guess) the menu goes up to 320 k but you can go to "other amount" and enter 400,000. 00.


but there's usually people waiting to use the ATM and I feel bad about taking more time to do two withdrawals.Don't be shy. Be a man and do what you have to do when it's your turn. Colombians will understand.


But in a monger's case, isn't the rich sending to the poor? So they are taking from the rich horny walking ATMs to give to the rich.You are quite right, of course. But Western Union's main business is taking money from poor migrant workers who are sending small amounts to their poor families back home.

Oh, and mongers shouldn't be sending money to providers who are far away, but handing it over in person.

Villainy
07-16-19, 04:45
I have attached a link to a site called "Numbeo". If you want to evaluate the cost of living for Colombia (or any where else for that matter) this site will be a big help.

I used it initially to screen various countries and cities abroad that might be a good place to retire and practice a hobby that we all seem to share. It isn't a commercial.

Site, doesn't cost anything, doesn't require a sign up or anything.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp

Jingo10
07-16-19, 18:45
I have attached a link to a site called "Numbeo". If you want to evaluate the cost of living for Colombia (or any where else for that matter) this site will be a big help.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jspI use this and expatitan but when I dig into forums they say these costs are for locals and expats pay considerably more? I am looking to retire somewhere this year so would be good to know expat views.

PirateMorgan
07-16-19, 19:23
" they say these costs are for locals and expats pay considerably more". That is be. S.

JjBee62
07-16-19, 20:50
I use this and expatitan but when I dig into forums they say these costs are for locals and expats pay considerably more? I am looking to retire somewhere this year so would be good to know expat views.Yes and no on expats paying more.

Most expats stick within their comfort zone. That means shopping at Carulla or Exito. It means staying in estrato 5 or 6 neighborhoods. It means air conditioning and clothes dryers. Because of these things, they pay more. Many also look at it as an opportunity to upgrade. They can get a 3 bedroom place for cheaper than the 2 bedroom they had. It's still cheaper, but they don't get to the best level.

All those stores don't have 2 sets of prices. But you can often go down the street to another store and buy groceries for 20-50% less.

Villainy
07-24-19, 15:54
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20190723-colombias-buzzing-comeback-cityk

I saw this on my news feed and it makes for an interesting read on Cali.

Jingo10
07-25-19, 06:58
Yes and no on expats paying more.

Most expats stick within their comfort zone. That means shopping at Carulla or Exito. It means staying in estrato 5 or 6 neighborhoods. It means air conditioning and clothes dryers. Because of these things, they pay more. Many also look at it as an opportunity to upgrade. They can get a 3 bedroom place for cheaper than the 2 bedroom they had. It's still cheaper, but they don't get to the best level.

All those stores don't have 2 sets of prices. But you can often go down the street to another store and buy groceries for 20-50% less.Thanks for the info, sorry I didn't mean gringo prices I meant the price on the website for was living like a local whereas an expat would, as you say, want a higher standard of living.

Uthred
07-25-19, 07:55
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20190723-colombias-buzzing-comeback-cityk

I saw this on my news feed and it makes for an interesting read on Cali.The link appears to be down.

World Travel 69
07-25-19, 15:02
2019.
This article is about a 2016 change.

http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20190723-colombias-buzzing-comeback-city


http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20190723-colombias-buzzing-comeback-cityk

I saw this on my news feed and it makes for an interesting read on Cali.

World Travel 69
07-27-19, 17:36
Their should a lot of Parties tonight.

For the first time in history a Colombian is about to win the Tour.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2019/07/27/tour-de-france-2019-stage-20-live-updates-latest-standings/

Mr Enternational
07-27-19, 18:59
Well yesterday there were a lot of marches and protests in various cities because of the murders of a shit ton of human rights leaders.

https://elpais.com/internacional/2019/07/27/colombia/1564196965_977885.html


Their should a lot of Parties tonight.

For the first time in history a Colombian is about to win the Tour.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2019/07/27/tour-de-france-2019-stage-20-live-updates-latest-standings/

The Tall Man
07-28-19, 21:48
Their should a lot of Parties tonight.

For the first time in history a Colombian is about to win the Tour.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2019/07/27/tour-de-france-2019-stage-20-live-updates-latest-standings/It is official, he won! Really a big achievement and makes the country proud.

The Tall Man.

World Travel 69
07-28-19, 23:25
Egan Bernal the Winner lives close to Bogota.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/49145747

There should be lots of parties tonight.


Their should a lot of Parties tonight.

For the first time in history a Colombian is about to win the Tour.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2019/07/27/tour-de-france-2019-stage-20-live-updates-latest-standings/

Oil Stain
08-13-19, 01:14
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-colombia/colombia-fines-uber-more-than-629000-for-obstructing-regulatory-visit-idUSKCN1V21RO

BayBoy
08-24-19, 00:35
The Colombian Peso is now at 3,400 to the US Dollar. Could make things a little cheaper in Colombia. Like in the bars and casas with the chicas, you can save a few a few bucks.

Madra Bid Dog
08-25-19, 16:17
Best way to move around in Bogota. You don't need cash-is all app based and safer. Even though I've never had problems with yellow cabs and speak Spanish there is the rare time when they might overcharge a foreigner. But most of the time is fine so don't be afraid to use them either.

Bleble
08-29-19, 23:26
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49508411

How concerning should I be for my visit early Nov. Due to this new development?

Combo
08-30-19, 01:00
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49508411

How concerning should I be for my visit early Nov. Due to this new development?Without further adverse developments, I wouldn't worry too much. FARC was in a war with the government until three years ago. But for 10 years before the peace agreement, parts of the country (the parts you're likely visiting) were mostly safe from violence. Now if you're traveling into the jungle, that's a different story. And I wouldn't visit Buenaventura or north of there in the Choco region. But if you're hanging in a decent neighborhood of Bogota, Medellin, Cali, etc and you exercise common sense precaution, you should be OK.

Mr Enternational
08-30-19, 02:06
And I wouldn't visit BuenaventuraI thought that, but when I was in Cali last month 2 of my chicks tried to take me there to see the whales. They said it was perfectly fine. They also had the pamphlet about the whales in the hotel lobby.

Questner
08-30-19, 03:38
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49508411

How concerning should I be for my visit early Nov. Due to this new development?Nothing new. Norte de Santander (as with respect to this article) is a no go area; Buenaventura port is a no go area.

John Clayton
08-30-19, 04:03
Nothing new. Norte de Santander (as with respect to this article) is a no go area; Buenaventura port is a no go area.WTF is with those asshats? Here's a weird / fcked up thing that happened last week:

https://www.elespectador.com/colombia2020/pais/atentan-contra-dirigente-del-partido-farc-en-norte-de-santander-articulo-877806

The two places I wanted to go this winter were Cucuta and Cali (and maybe a drive down to Buenaventura). F!ck those FARC douchebags.

Bango Cheito
08-30-19, 10:43
WTF is with those asshats? Here's a weird / fcked up thing that happened last week:

https://www.elespectador.com/colombia2020/pais/atentan-contra-dirigente-del-partido-farc-en-norte-de-santander-articulo-877806

The two places I wanted to go this winter were Cucuta and Cali (and maybe a drive down to Buenaventura). F!ck those FARC douchebags.No need to not go to those places, at least up to this moment.

The places to avoid in Colombia are remote rural areas with nothing to offer anyways.

JjBee62
08-30-19, 15:18
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49508411

How concerning should I be for my visit early Nov. Due to this new development?It all depends on what you're planning on doing. It could be a problem if:

1. You plan on arguing loudly, in public, with Colombians, either for or against FARC.

2. You plan on attempting to purchase a few tons of coke.

3. You plan on exploring the remote areas of Colombia without qualified guides.

Of course these things were all problems before this recent development, so from the typical tourist perspective nothing has changed.

A civil war that spanned 2 generations doesn't disappear overnight. The US Civil War only lasted 4 years and 155 years later people are still waving the losing flag.

Questner
08-31-19, 01:02
I find this information to be accurate. Always ask yourself what would you offer if it's not too late if you find yourself in a precarious situation.

Avoid all travel to the following areas due to the risk of kidnapping and violent crime posed by the presence of illegal armed groups and other criminal organizations:

The area within 20 km of the border with Venezuela.

The area within 20 km of the border with Panama.

The area within 20 km of the border with Ecuador.

The ports of Buenaventura and Tumaco.

Avoid non-essential travel to the following departments due to drug-related criminal activity by illegal armed groups and other criminal organizations:

Antioquia (excluding the cities of Carmen de Viboral, Medellin and Rionegro, the Jos Mara Cordova International Airport and the road to this airport).

Arauca.

Caqueta.

Cauca (excluding Popoyan).

Choco (excluding the capital, Quibdo, and the whale-watching towns of Bania Solano, Capurgan and Nuqu).

Cordoba (excluding the capital, Montera).

Guainia.

Guaviare.

Meta (excluding the capital, Villavicencio).

Narino (excluding the capital, Pasto).

Norte de Santander.

Putumayo.

Tolima (excluding the city of Ibague).

Valle del Cauca (excluding the capital, Cali).

Vichada.

If you intend to travel to the any of the above excluded areas, do so by air. Exercise a high degree of caution at all times.

Combo
08-31-19, 01:17
I thought that, but when I was in Cali last month 2 of my chicks tried to take me there to see the whales. They said it was perfectly fine. They also had the pamphlet about the whales in the hotel lobby.

I've been there. It sucks for our hobby and it's a very gloomy city with no nice areas like those that exist in MDE, Cali, etc. Unless you're really into whale-watching or fishing, I wouldn't go.

John Clayton
08-31-19, 02:44
Always ask yourself what would you offer if it's not too late if you find yourself in a precarious situation...

Avoid all travel to the following areas due to the risk of kidnapping and violent crime posed by the presence of illegal armed groups and other criminal organizations:

...at all times.And always smear yourself with vaseline at night and sleep in a zip lock bag filled with cotton wool. Don't answer the door. Wipe twice, polish three times.

Questner
09-02-19, 03:15
And always smear yourself with vaseline at night and sleep in a zip lock bag filled with cotton wool. Don't answer the door. Wipe twice, polish three times.This is a disrespectful post. Not only it is a disservice to board members, but a cowardly writing of a lowlife hiding behind a so called anonymity of posting on a social network.

Questner
09-02-19, 03:19
WTF is with those asshats? Here's a weird / fcked up thing that happened last week:

https://www.elespectador.com/colombia2020/pais/atentan-contra-dirigente-del-partido-farc-en-norte-de-santander-articulo-877806

The two places I wanted to go this winter were Cucuta and Cali (and maybe a drive down to Buenaventura). F!ck those FARC douchebags.If you are so brave, meet them in person and argue your position face to face.

Questner
09-02-19, 03:23
Safety is rule number 1 of this hobby. Unfortunately I have to post this rule as a reminder to all dumb fucks who never pulled a trigger in their lives or stepped a step into jungle. 'there are some OLD pilots and some BOLD pilots, but very very few OLD, BOLD, PILOTS'.

John Clayton
09-02-19, 04:44
This is a disrespectful post. Not only it is a disservice to board members, but a cowardly writing of a lowlife hiding behind a so called anonymity of posting on a social network.Sorry, I actually thought it was supposed to be a comical / spoof post. It seemed like the list a hysterical mother would say to a kid before they departed for summer camp. I wasn't trying to dis you. I honestly thought it was a joke post and wanted to help it along. With regards to FARC, my principal objection to them (as I previously said about Sendero) is that they have no coherent ideology. They are simply nihilists.

I am a a weak, old man now, and was never brave even when I was young (especially at night). I am a Spanish speaker, and did have the misfortune of working abroad for our government for eight years in the 70's, often in troubled areas. I've met many of the type (broke / deluded / desperate...and with guns!) and ran over one of them once with my Land Rover.

So, I wasn't trying to p!ss you off, or doubt you or anything. I agree, there are a lot of dangers out there and, personally, I don't want to go anywhere where I might get beat up, robbed, arrested or killed. Point is, I obviously don't want to go to Yemen, Libya or the more remote regions of Norte de Santander or Boyaca (I have been gratified to read that the Federal Police seem to be working on busting some of the douchebags: https://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/otras-ciudades/capturan-a-disidentes-de-las-farc-en-norte-de-santander-407284).

I was interested in going to Cucuta this fall, but am less likely to do so now. Less because of a potential resurgence of FARC and more because of reports like Kazeu's:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?584-Other-Areas

Kazeu
09-02-19, 16:42
I am currently in Cucuta now. This is quite disturbing to me, as I was planning to take a bus from Cucuta to bucaramanga and stop in Pamplona along the way. Is this sufficient cause to change my plans? Either the destination or the mode of transport? Any advice?


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49508411

How concerning should I be for my visit early Nov. Due to this new development?

Bango Cheito
09-05-19, 20:15
I find this information to be accurate. Always ask yourself what would you offer if it's not too late if you find yourself in a precarious situation.

Avoid all travel to the following areas due to the risk of kidnapping and violent crime posed by the presence of illegal armed groups and other criminal organizations:

The area within 20 km of the border with Venezuela.

The area within 20 km of the border with Panama.

The area within 20 km of the border with Ecuador.

The ports of Buenaventura and Tumaco.

Avoid non-essential travel to the following departments due to drug-related criminal activity by illegal armed groups and other criminal organizations:

Antioquia (excluding the cities of Carmen de Viboral, Medellin and Rionegro, the Jos Mara Cordova International Airport and the road to this airport).

Arauca.

Caqueta.

Cauca (excluding Popoyan).

Choco (excluding the capital, Quibdo, and the whale-watching towns of Bania Solano, Capurgan and Nuqu).

Cordoba (excluding the capital, Montera).

Guainia.

Guaviare.

Meta (excluding the capital, Villavicencio).

Narino (excluding the capital, Pasto).

Norte de Santander.

Putumayo.

Tolima (excluding the city of Ibague).

Valle del Cauca (excluding the capital, Cali).

Vichada.

If you intend to travel to the any of the above excluded areas, do so by air. Exercise a high degree of caution at all times.Meta and Tolima are generally fine, except for southwestern Meta and southeastern Tolima. You can also still go to Cao Cristales if you fly in and out. Antioquia is also totally fine excluding the coastal areas like Turbo and Necoclí.

Oil Stain
09-19-19, 02:21
The Colombian Peso is now at 3,400 to the US Dollar. Could make things a little cheaper in Colombia. Like in the bars and casas with the chicas, you can save a few a few bucks.A quarter point cut from the US Fed today and only lost 12 pesos to the dollar. If there are no more cuts from the fed, we might see 3500 next September. Oil.

JjBee62
09-19-19, 12:19
Having a connection with lots of girls, whether through Facebook or WhatsApp, means you'll eventually get a request for money. How you deal with the request is up to you. However, if you send money 1 time, you can bet the same girl will soon be asking again.

Yesterday I saw a girl had posted asking who has PayPal. In the past 2 weeks I've seen a few offering to sell pictures and videos. This morning I saw the 2 posts in the photo. Now, instead of personal requests for money some girls are going the wholesale route. You can almost guarantee someone will come to the rescue.

It will work for a few girls, for awhile, but I doubt if there's enough of a response to take many girls off the market for long.

LeyenLouvain
09-26-19, 01:00
Many reports warn of street trannies carrying knives. Is this to do with them just wanting to defend themselves or do they also attack?

Is it worth trying to get them on side such as by giving them a small tip for giving directions or something, just in case they would help you out if someone attacks you?

LionBacker
10-08-19, 14:26
Hi,

I am traveling to Medellin next month. I am planning on visiting casas in centro during the day and staying in at night.

Is there any hotels in centro that I can stay at which are walking distance from many casa?

I am thinking about Hotel Kong since it has four casas on the same block.

Thanks.

Jbj64
10-13-19, 15:34
Hi I am thinking of saving some money and ditching verizon for Google FI. How is the service internationally, I travel for fun alot so that is important. I currently pat $10/ day for verizon travel pass. It works great but it gets expensive for 3-4 weeks.

I have a Pixel and am thinking of upgrading and that is when I would switch.