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JustTK
01-10-23, 17:39
But I think there is a rule you must remain outside Colombia for 24 hours. If they look at your stamp they may see your stamps are the same day. If true it may be cheaper and faster to head down to Ecuador or Panama for a night. Let us know how you make out.There is no rule to say if you leave the country you must stay out for 24 hrs. I understand that there may be a rule that you must stay out for 24 hrs if you want to 'reset' the stamp rule. But this does not apply if you have a different passport bcos there will be no stamp there.

OJeito
01-10-23, 20:51
There is no rule to say if you leave the country you must stay out for 24 hrs. I understand that there may be a rule that you must stay out for 24 hrs if you want to 'reset' the stamp rule. But this does not apply if you have a different passport bcos there will be no stamp there.Came in to say that I was asked for my boarding pass by the immigration officer when I arrived in Bogota on Friday. The officer looked at it carefully before stamping my passport and on I went. It would totally suck to get caught trying to scam the system. Why risk a potential black listing and a hefty fine by not following the rules? Seems ridiculous to me but carry on. YMMV.

DaVinci40
01-11-23, 06:40
Could be a crafty way to get around it but I don't know what other ways that they are tracking your information and if they point blank ask you when you last were here and how long for are you going to be okay lying about it. You have to keep in mind you're breaking immigration law by doing this as the 180 day rule is per individual and not per passport (I'm not sure who told you that it's 90/180 days per passport). Since we're in 2023 though you don't even need to worry about it (see next paragraph). You risk being fined and / or barred from re-entering Colombia for trying to get around it by this way and you never know if you're going to get a a-hole / check everything immigration person or a "what are you here for" then stamp person. Can't say I would personally do it because I want to be able to visit Colombia in the future but best of luck with it.

You may be over complicating this though. Since you're going to leave the country though and the new year has started (we're only a few weeks into January) and because you are leaving the country for 24 hours you will stop the consecutive 180 day rule and are able to do 180 days in Colombia anyways as we are now in a new calendar year no matter what passport you use. So just cross the border or fly out, come back in at least 24 hours later get a new 90 day stamp and then apply online through check mig to extend it to 180 days and pay the 100 k cop or whatever the cost is. This way you are good until the end of June 2023 and then you can leave the country and come back in to try your passport trick to see if it works?

Let us know what happens.


There is no rule to say if you leave the country you must stay out for 24 hrs. I understand that there may be a rule that you must stay out for 24 hrs if you want to 'reset' the stamp rule. But this does not apply if you have a different passport bcos there will be no stamp there.

MiamiSammy
01-12-23, 00:34
I'm heading back for another couple weeks in Heaven. I'm flying into Barranquilla, but considering a side trip. I always end up in Medellin, which I love, but I want to branch out. Bogota seems just a little too big. That being said, the possible list includes Bucaramanga, Cucuta, and Cali. Are any of the cities particularly hot right now in terms of action? Any thoughts?

SonicBoom1
01-12-23, 04:38
https://fb.watch/hw764bp78t/

It helps if you can understand the language.This was super funny! Seriously though, knowing even a little bit of language helps so much in the hobby.

AdMan32
01-18-23, 05:07
Heading to Bogota the 2nd week of February. I've only gotten one vaccine shot. Does anyone know the best way to go about testing? I'm sure at-home testing kits are a no go. Thanks in advance.

Frisky Frank
01-18-23, 15:25
Most major airports have testing centers on site. Just check with your departure airport and try to find some information about where they're located. Orlando international airport has a couple inside the departure and security areas. Fort Lauderdale has one outside by the departures area where the cars drop off people. They should be easy enough to Google search, or you can call the airport.


Heading to Bogota the 2nd week of February. I've only gotten one vaccine shot. Does anyone know the best way to go about testing? I'm sure at-home testing kits are a no go. Thanks in advance.

JustTK
01-19-23, 03:37
Let us know what happens.2. 5 hrs in a departure lounge outside Colombia. Cup of coffee, Get back on the same plane back. Job done. Didn't even enter Panama.

DaVinci40
01-19-23, 21:31
Sounds promising for those with dual citizenships even better for me as I have 3 passports / citizenships but I'm surprised you didn't sample some of the goods in Panama. Thanks for the info though.


2. 5 hrs in a departure lounge outside Colombia. Cup of coffee, Get back on the same plane back. Job done. Didn't even enter Panama.

JustTK
01-20-23, 00:13
but I'm surprised you didn't sample some of the goods in Panama.I did. I had a coffee. Hehe.

No interest in Panama. I find it a pretty fake place, lacking in real culture or attractions. Besdes, I already paid for a month's rental in MDE.

Sun08
01-27-23, 03:01
https://colombiareports.com/panama-arrests-us-citizen-suspected-in-colombia-of-murdering-fiance/

https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/dictamen-final-asesinato-dj-valentina-trespalacios-medicina-legal-GK20194031

Mr Enternational
01-27-23, 04:00
No interest in Panama. I find it a pretty fake place, lacking in real culture or attractions.One day to go to San Blas and a half day to see Miraflores Locks, then you are good on Panama. Not a damn thing else there.

The Cane
01-27-23, 23:10
Homicide is the case: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11684195/amp/Son-Texas-man-jailed-Colombia-girlfriends-murder-invited-2018-State-Union.html.

MongerHunger
02-08-23, 18:37
He was scoped and died inside a La 70 area bar in Laureles.

https://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/sacerdote-fue-hallado-muerto-en-un-bar-de-la-70-OI20284659

ChuchoLoco
02-09-23, 00:38
He was scoped and died inside a La 70 area bar in Laureles.

https://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/sacerdote-fue-hallado-muerto-en-un-bar-de-la-70-OI20284659This poor guy was a priest. They are looking into what killed him and looking for something that did it like scopolamine. Been past that bar a hundred times and had a beer in there once. If I remember right it's a Karaoke bar.

ChuchoLoco
02-09-23, 00:43
Homicide is the case: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11684195/amp/Son-Texas-man-jailed-Colombia-girlfriends-murder-invited-2018-State-Union.html.Look at him and look at her. Very doubtful she was a real girlfriend and what was he doing with her anyway unless he was divorced from his wife the mother of his son who beat cancer? There's a million stories in the Naked City and this is just one of them.

ChuchoLoco
02-09-23, 01:41
He was scoped and died inside a La 70 area bar in Laureles.

https://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/sacerdote-fue-hallado-muerto-en-un-bar-de-la-70-OI20284659Just saw this covered on YouTube and the guy said it was scopolamine.

LatinaLover#1
02-09-23, 03:29
He was scoped and died inside a La 70 area bar in Laureles.

https://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/sacerdote-fue-hallado-muerto-en-un-bar-de-la-70-OI20284659Run this story by the geniuses on the board who constantly downplay the dangers in Colombia.

JjBee62
02-09-23, 20:59
Run this story by the geniuses on the board who constantly downplay the dangers in Colombia.It highlights something I said long ago and more than once. Colombians are friendly, but that doesn't make them your friends. Look at what the bartender did. He saw a guy passed out and just dragged him outside. If he had called the cops or an ambulance right away the guy might have survived.

Here are things to consider.

Did the 2 enter the bar together? Or did they meet at the bar? Was it an arranged meeting, or did the guy just approach the priest and strike up a conversation?

My gut says it was an arranged meeting, a date, whether for sex or just social contact. Not speaking ill of the dead, but he wouldn't be the first priest who didn't keep a vow of chastity.

3 possibilities I can think of.

1. It was a Tinder or Grinder date, just like most of the scopings. They meet, talk, have a drink. Game over.

2. The victim was seen drinking alone in a bar, was approached, more drinks and drugged.

3. They had met earlier and it was a setup to rob him.

When you're drinking in public, or drinking with someone, watch your drink as if your life depends on it. Don't drink too much. Drink slowly. At the first sign you're not feeling right, stop and get to a safe place. And whenever you're out you should be looking for safe places. Police posts are obvious, but consider pharmacies. Go in, say you're sick and ask for an ambulance, if you think you've been drugged.

Almost every 1 of the scopings can be avoided. Treat it like crossing the street. Whether you're crossing the street alone, with strangers or friends, you need to look before you cross.

MongerHunger
02-09-23, 23:14
Just saw this covered on YouTube and the guy said it was scopolamine.Yep. He got "Scoped" aka Scopolamine.

Cursnoop
02-10-23, 01:33
Look at him and look at her. Very doubtful she was a real girlfriend and what was he doing with her anyway unless he was divorced from his wife the mother of his son who beat cancer? There's a million stories in the Naked City and this is just one of them.Of course she was there for the money, he thought with money he was controlling and keeping her for himself but she had a dude that she paid with his money. Thats why I keep telling guys. More money does not get you respect, they are just using you.

Fun Luvr
02-11-23, 04:54
He was scoped and died inside a La 70 area bar in Laureles.

https://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/sacerdote-fue-hallado-muerto-en-un-bar-de-la-70-OI20284659If it's the bar in the photo with the story, that's a ripoff joint. They have a few women in there to entice guys to enter. At night, there's usually a barker on LA70 approaching guys to get them to go into the bar. A couple of years ago, I went in and had one beer and found out what they were doing. I doubt the priest went there with a date or had a pre-planned meeting with a woman. I imagine he was enticed to enter, and then the sharks took over.

LatinaLover#1
02-11-23, 15:57
Of course she was there for the money, he thought with money he was controlling and keeping her for himself but she had a dude that she paid with his money. Thats why I keep telling guys. More money does not get you respect, they are just using you.BUT some guys just don't get it.

YOU can buy pussy but YOU CAN'T BUY LOVE!

Mr Enternational
02-11-23, 18:47
Of course she was there for the money, he thought with money he was controlling and keeping her for himself but she had a dude that she paid with his money. Thats why I keep telling guys. More money does not get you respect, they are just using you.That is why my definition of non-pro or girlfriend is different from a lot of other guys on here. It means I do not give them money. Chicks that are not hookers do not even ask me for $2, while other mfs are handing out $1000 at a time! I have never been a baller because ballers get used. I can't imagine having to go to work so I can be pimped by some broad for $1000. It was his own fault. Some dudes get pussy and forget how to say no.

To me the story sounded ridiculous to begin with. You are a DJ and you need to pay $1000 to go to work. If that was remotely true there would be thousands of openings for DJs in Colombia. Reminds me of a story in Thailand where a guy helped his girl start a baked goods business. He bought $30 worth of stuff for her to get started. She sold the baked goods outside of the grocery store and made $10. Same thing the next day. He buys the stuff. She makes it and sells it. To her the business is doing good because she is making $10 everyday. She gives a fuck about the $30 he is spending so she can make the $10. I would have told her if you don't have the $1000 that it takes, sounds like you can not afford to be a DJ.

TjBrazil
02-12-23, 10:01
It's pretty freaking dangerous to advertise that you have 1000 to constantly give a hooker with no immediate sex in return in a place where a really nice apartment can be had for 500.00. 1000 is a lot in America much less Colombia or Brazil. Never give a hooker money when you are in the US. Never! Ever! She will look at you as a gullible mark for sending her money from the states.

It's like that black dude from 90 day fiancé who was a manicurist and sent over 40 k to a Ukrainian hottie who he never met in person. He was working his ass off cleaning nails and feet and sending it to this scammer. I hate to see nice guys like him get taken advantage of. Sure, we have to accept when we visit these mongering destinations that we will get scammed a few dollars here and there from taxis and bartenders, servers, but it's such a small amount I count is as cost of doing business as a gringo, but losing thousands is not a small cost of doing business.

Cursnoop
02-12-23, 15:05
BUT some guys just don't get it.

YOU can buy pussy but YOU CAN'T BUY LOVE!That's true, don't mix love for paid sex or paid attention. I know we all like to bang some girl but I don't wave them. I pay them, fuck them, kick them out. I might take them to dinner If I want to eat somewhere and do not have someone else to go with but I tell them it is just I do not have anyone to go with and do no want to go alone and I do that with the ones that are willing and not the ones that ask to be paid to go out to eat.

Cursnoop
02-12-23, 15:33
That is why my definition of non-pro or girlfriend is different from a lot of other guys on here. It means I do not give them money. Chicks that are not hookers do not even ask me for $2, while other mfs are handing out $1000 at a time! I have never been a baller because ballers get used. I can't imagine having to go to work so I can be pimped by some broad for $1000. It was his own fault. Some dudes get pussy and forget how to say no.

To me the story sounded ridiculous to begin with. You are a DJ and you need to pay $1000 to go to work. If that was remotely true there would be thousands of openings for DJs in Colombia. Reminds me of a story in Thailand where a guy helped his girl start a baked goods business. He bought $30 worth of stuff for her to get started. She sold the baked goods outside of the grocery store and made $10. Same thing the next day. He buys the stuff. She makes it and sells it. To her the business is doing good because she is making $10 everyday. She gives a fuck about the $30 he is spending so she can make the $10. I would have told her if you don't have the $1000 that it takes, sounds like you can not afford to be a DJ.The more I read the news report the stranger it gets.

The thing is the relationship started as sugardaddy, he invited her without ever seeing her to go to vacation with him.

(source hes own twitter https://twitter.com/ptrain67/status/1604143546411651074/photo/1).

I think he thought keeping her on the luxury lifestyle will keep her for him only. Leaked whatsapp messages between dj and her other female friend says he want to get married and feels he has been used because the dj didn't even want to kiss him, and that she had to acted. Also they both were on tinder looking to meet people and also looked like the dj had a couple more gringos in her pocket. She had some more gringo sponsors but they do no want to be in the news spotlight. In the end the shit is sad and tragic.

JustTK
02-12-23, 19:54
Homicide is the case: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11684195/amp/Son-Texas-man-jailed-Colombia-girlfriends-murder-invited-2018-State-Union.html.Valentina Trespalacios. What a name.

The Cane
02-12-23, 20:03
BUT some guys just don't get it.

YOU can buy pussy but YOU CAN'T BUY LOVE!We all get it. We all know. It's just those fools who somehow manage to convince themselves that "this time" it's different. That their situation happens to be the exception. Yeah, well maybe it is. But then again it probably isn't!

Mr Enternational
02-13-23, 00:32
I think he thought keeping her on the luxury lifestyle will keep her for him only. Leaked whatsapp messages between dj and her other female friend says he want to get married and feels he has been used because the dj didn't even want to kiss him, and that she had to acted. Also they both were on tinder looking to meet people and also looked like the dj had a couple more gringos in her pocket. She had some more gringo sponsors but they do no want to be in the news spotlight. In the end the shit is sad and tragic.To me the shit is funny on all sides. You play with people's emotions and use them for money then you get what you get. You think an obvious hooker is yours then you deserve to be ripped off.

LatinaLover#1
02-13-23, 05:14
We all get it. We all know. It's just those fools who somehow manage to convince themselves that "this time" it's different. That their situation happens to be the exception. Yeah, well maybe it is. But then again it probably isn't!Most get it, at least after some chic cleans their clock. I have a friend, a retired commercial Pilot, had a long and prosperous career. Probably fucked more pussy in his life then you and me put together. BUT he met this one garota in Santos, she opened his nose and he went for the apartment, the furniture the whole nine yards. They were to move in together bla bla bla. Then he went back to the states for 3 days, Returned to Brazil, went to meet her at the apartment and the locks were changed, she moved her whole family in AND her long time boyfriend. He always knew it was about the money but this one time he let his guard down and that's all she wrote. We have to constantly repeat to ourselves, we're in it for the pussy, she's in it for the money. I know of guys, on this board who are paying 300 400 USD per meet for these girls, send them flowers and gifts They think they are having a love affair, Falling in love together Hopefully, when it blows up, and it will, they learn their lesson.

The Cane
02-13-23, 13:43
He always knew it was about the money but this one time he let his guard down and that's all she wrote. We have to constantly repeat to ourselves, we're in it for the pussy, she's in it for the money. They think they are having a love affair, falling in love together. Hopefully, when it blows up, and it will, they learn their lesson.With this you just proved exactly my point. He knew better, and that it's about the money, but then he convinced himself of the big lie (it's about love) and went and did what he did anyway. His situation was going to be the exception, or so he thought. Played with fire and got burned!

LatinaLover#1
02-13-23, 17:12
With this you just proved exactly my point. He knew better, and that it's about the money, but then he convinced himself of the big lie (it's about love) and went and did what he did anyway. His situation was going to be the exception, or so he thought. Played with fire and got burned!Exactly, anytime you start feeling your special, run and never see her again.

Mr Enternational
02-13-23, 18:55
We all get it. We all know. It's just those fools who somehow manage to convince themselves that "this time" it's different. No. It is fools that somehow convince themselves that these girls that are so easy to talk to in other countries are not hookers. Every now and then some video pops up in worldstar where a guy is showing himself talking to what is obvious to everyone else is a hooker, but bragging about how much easier these chicks are than the ones at home.

It was the same with that popular video that was made in Brazil years ago. The chicks didn't know shit about the guys except they like to party and relax and the guys did not shit about the girls except they were always available to have fun. But they tried to portray it as this is how Brazilians are. No. This is how Brazilian hookers are! A normal woman that has to go to work to support herself is not in the street all times of night or in the club everyday.

Are guys not seeing this or are they just acting like they don't see this? It should become obvious once the money changes hands. But being that they post it all over the internet so proudly, I think they are fooling themselves.

https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhibiwSU0wn2c3M9Q5/man-visits-colombia-amp-see039s-how-easy-is-it-to-talk-to-the-finest-women-out-there-part-2

LoveItHere69
02-15-23, 00:09
Are guys not seeing this or are they just acting like they don't see this? It should become obvious once the money changes hands. But being that they post it all over the internet so proudly, I think they are fooling themselves.You learned that just recently when you posted a picture of one your GFs. You learned she was indeed a prostitute when guys started posting they had been with her. I wish you would post picks of all your GF professors, doctors, lawyers and such that you brag about. I bet half are prostitutes.

Nypher
02-16-23, 15:52
No. It is fools that somehow convince themselves that these girls that are so easy to talk to in other countries are not hookers. Every now and then some video pops up in worldstar where a guy is showing himself talking to what is obvious to everyone else is a hooker, but bragging about how much easier these chicks are than the ones at home.

It was the same with that popular video that was made in Brazil years ago. The chicks didn't know shit about the guys except they like to party and relax and the guys did not shit about the girls except they were always available to have fun. But they tried to portray it as this is how Brazilians are. No. This is how Brazilian hookers are! A normal woman that has to go to work to support herself is not in the street all times of night or in the club everyday.

Are guys not seeing this or are they just acting like they don't see this? It should become obvious once the money changes hands. But being that they post it all over the internet so proudly, I think they are fooling themselves.

https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhibiwSU0wn2c3M9Q5/man-visits-colombia-amp-see039s-how-easy-is-it-to-talk-to-the-finest-women-out-there-part-2Last week my Dolce chica showed up at the apartment mad and showed me this video on her Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1140616596614585/?s=fb_shorts_tab&stack_idx=0

Now instantly I recognized the one in red " Briyith" as I was with her before the fake tits, she was the one I described and a messed up Cardi be who said she charge more because she's Colombian. Had to toss her back to the streets because after the surgeries she looks all Frankenstein monster with a fucked up spine. I thought my dolce girl found out and was mad as these girls have their favourite clients, but it was something else. She didn't like how the guy was standing there recording and making the girls look like they are all prostitutes as many of them have a few gringo boyfriends who send them money monthly. I told her that if those girls have multiple gringos sending them money monthly then their asses should not be walking in that area trying to make more money.

She then show me more videos of the same guy doing he same thing and said if hes not careful hes going to run into the wrong Colombiano as many of those girls also have a local boyfriends too and they can get jealous.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/514102880832449/?s=fb_shorts_tab&stack_idx=0

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1539538029881154/?s=fb_shorts_tab&stack_idx=0

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1228607878034300/?s=fb_shorts_tab&stack_idx=0

https://www.facebook.com/reel/6347292061961886/?s=fb_shorts_tab&stack_idx=0

The girls here are watching and paying attention.

LoveItHere69
02-16-23, 18:31
She then show me more videos of the same guy doing he same thing and said if hes not careful hes going to run into the wrong Colombiano as many of those girls also have a local boyfriends too and they can get jealous.

The girls here are watching and paying attention.Jealous? Far from it. You think the Colombian BFs can not figure out what she is doing out every night without him while dressed to kill? This idiot posting the youtube videos could cut into her and her Colombian BFs Western Union gravy train. I hope the youtuber gets what he deserves because he is making Colombia and our sport look bad.

JjBee62
02-16-23, 21:24
Jealous? Far from it. You think the Colombian BFs can not figure out what she is doing out every night without him while dressed to kill? This idiot posting the youtube videos could cut into her and her Colombian BFs Western Union gravy train. I hope the youtuber gets what he deserves because he is making Colombia and our sport look bad.It's a sport now? Not many sports where you can get into the pros with just a dick and $10.

BarrioSpinners
02-16-23, 23:30
Jealous? Far from it. You think the Colombian BFs can not figure out what she is doing out every night without him while dressed to kill? This idiot posting the youtube videos could cut into her and her Colombian BFs Western Union gravy train. I hope the youtuber gets what he deserves because he is making Colombia and our sport look bad.Last week a guy was walking with a go pro and filming the SWs at Veracruz and apart from one of them shouting " fijo de puta", unfortunately, nothing happened to him. I would have paid the boyfriends to see some proper reaction.

LoveItHere69
02-17-23, 05:48
It's a sport now? Not many sports where you can get into the pros with just a dick and $10.I am in the sport. I am not a pro. I am in the Pee Wee League building up my confidence. I do not think I am winning but after every game I feel as if I just won the Super Bowl.

JjBee62
02-17-23, 17:16
I am in the sport. I am not a pro. I am in the Pee Wee League building up my confidence. I do not think I am winning but after every game I feel as if I just won the Super Bowl.If you're not getting into the pros every time, you're doing it wrong.

Elvis 2008
02-17-23, 21:22
If you're not getting into the pros every time, you're doing it wrong.Uh, okay fish story, we all know you are bigger, badder, and better than everyone else in your own mind. Give it a rest, Mr. "solid 4".

JjBee62
02-18-23, 06:59
Uh, okay fish story, we all know you are bigger, badder, and better than everyone else in your own mind. Give it a rest, Mr. "solid 4".It's a pun. Prostitutes are often referred to, at least here, as "pros. " So if you're calling fucking prostitutes a sport, if you're doing it right, you're getting into the pros every time.

Do you get it now, or do I need to draw a diagram for you?

FlappyGilmore0
02-20-23, 00:12
I find videos like these really annoying. Everything doesn't need to be broadcast and uploaded on social media but that's just me.


Last week my Dolce chica showed up at the apartment mad and showed me this video on her Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1140616596614585/?s=fb_shorts_tab&stack_idx=0

Now instantly I recognized the one in red " Briyith" as I was with her before the fake tits, she was the one I described and a messed up Cardi be who said she charge more because she's Colombian. Had to toss her back to the streets because after the surgeries she looks all Frankenstein monster with a fucked up spine. I thought my dolce girl found out and was mad as these girls have their favourite clients, but it was something else. She didn't like how the guy was standing there recording and making the girls look like they are all prostitutes as many of them have a few gringo boyfriends who send them money monthly. I told her that if those girls have multiple gringos sending them money monthly then their asses should not be walking in that area trying to make more money.

She then show me more videos of the same guy doing he same thing and said if hes not careful hes going to run into the wrong Colombiano as many of those girls also have a local boyfriends too and they can get jealous.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/514102880832449/?s=fb_shorts_tab&stack_idx=0

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1539538029881154/?s=fb_shorts_tab&stack_idx=0

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1228607878034300/?s=fb_shorts_tab&stack_idx=0

https://www.facebook.com/reel/6347292061961886/?s=fb_shorts_tab&stack_idx=0

The girls here are watching and paying attention.

HumbleHal
02-23-23, 22:44
Wondering if others are disgusted, offended, by the taxi drivers practice, they take a soda bottle and pee into it, screw the cover back on it, then discard it on the side of the road.

Many many plastic bottles along the side of the roadways with urine inside. Sad.

Huacho
02-24-23, 03:13
Wondering if others are disgusted, offended, by the taxi drivers practice, they take a soda bottle and pee into it, screw the cover back on it, then discard it on the side of the road.

Many many plastic bottles along the side of the roadways with urine inside. Sad.Have you been to LA, Las Vegas, or Portland OR lately? Get used to it.

JjBee62
02-24-23, 18:26
Have you been to LA, Las Vegas, or Portland OR lately? Get used to it.It's everywhere in the US. If someone was buying bottles of piss for $1 each I could easily clear $1000 per day.

Marxh
03-16-23, 14:32
I was wondering how you guys go about pricing and negotiating with ladies for weekend or multi-day trips / stays?

For in city would you negotiate a price to be with you at a rate lower or similar to her normal rates.

If it's a trip to say San Andres where it is all inclusive, how would you go about negotiating that? Would the price be even lower then normal or would it be more because she is leaving her home city?

Feel free to PM if you prefer.

TIA.

LatinaLover#1
03-17-23, 03:14
I was wondering how you guys go about pricing and negotiating with ladies for weekend or multi-day trips / stays?

For in city would you negotiate a price to be with you at a rate lower or similar to her normal rates.

If it's a trip to say San Andres where it is all inclusive, how would you go about negotiating that? Would the price be even lower then normal or would it be more because she is leaving her home city?

Feel free to PM if you prefer.

TIA.First I would strongly advise you to do a few 3/4 hour daytime meets, before you set up multi day or weekend trips to SAI In many many trips all over central and South American countries, I can count on 1 hand how many women I could enjoy being with more than a few hours. Choose carefully. If you do click with one, ie: enjoy her company after you bust your nut, then ok an extended time would be ok. Unless they are a hard core puta most, students / single mommies rnjoy dinner drinks and a trip to the beach is always welcome. So your goinf to picke up the check for everything. I always had a few special friends that I would go on day trips. Because you are, in effect footing the bill for her vacation I usually paid them about the same for a todo noche. 300 cop per day around 1 million cop in total. But this was when the Xchange rate was around 3000/1 one thing I did once we got there and things were going good I would give them half the money so they could buy trinkets and souvenirs as they liked without asking me to buy them all kids of shit. Of course I would buy them a beach hat or a bikini if they want but I'd give them the money so they could buy what they want without asking me. They always seemed to like that and gave them the ability to buy things they wanted. Most important be sure yu will enjoy extend time with them.

Mr Enternational
03-17-23, 06:26
Unless they are a hard core puta most, students / single mommies rnjoy dinner drinks and a trip to the beach is always welcome. But once again the OP (as others have done before) is working under the assumption that the chick can just pick up and leave. If does not work like that for chicks that have other priorities such as school, a regular job, and kids to take care of. I think this works more where the chick is from another place and just came to that city to hook, therefore she does not have other day to day responsibilities. You can not just meet Jackie and assume she can go to San Andres with you next week. Your holiday is not necessarily others' holiday.

Huacho
03-17-23, 15:15
It's just so inadvisable to plan to spend 3 or 4 days with some random prostitute with whom you are not well acquainted. Chances of success are really quite low. Plus it runs counter to the whole idea of find, fuck and forget. What is the advantage of spending 3 or 4 days with one prostitute when you could be having 3 or 4 different prostitutes every day?

John Gault
03-27-23, 16:35
Twice now I have gotten my tickets to return to Sex Prison and when I got to the USA for my next flight at the Security check point I was told they could not read my ticket and I would have to go back to the ticket counter to get a new ticket. I was lucky enough to have a long wait for my next flight so it did not have any real problem except for the fact I was pissed that it happened to me again. So my tip for all you Varmets is when you get your tickets before you leave the area have them run your ticket to make sure it is good to go. This info I'm putting out could save you from missing your flight.

HombreIndio
03-31-23, 03:19
Hello all,

I am going to Brazil on a business trip and wanted to stay in Bogota for a few days on my way back to USA. After doing a bit of a research, the best option was to book two separate airline tickets. One from USA to Bogota and back and the other Bogota to Brazil and back. And that is all fine. I will be arriving in Bogota and then taking my flight to Brazil. The only issue is that I have a long layover at Bogota airport between those flight, almost 9 hours. I don't want to spend those 9 hours at the airport so I am planning to get out of the airport, have a decent meal and get back to the airport to take my flight to Brazil. Couple of days later, I will be coming back to Bogota, spend a few days there and then come back to USA.

Now, as I understand, everyone has to fill out the online immigration form for entering Colombia. I will have to submit two of these forms for this trip. The form asks for the address of the place you are going to stay at. I have booked the hotel for my return trip so I know the address. What address do I provide for the layover? I am not staying at any place. I'm just getting out of the airport and coming back in a few hours.

Thanks.

Nypher
03-31-23, 16:47
Hello all,

I am going to Brazil on a business trip and wanted to stay in Bogota for a few days on my way back to USA. After doing a bit of a research, the best option was to book two separate airline tickets. One from USA to Bogota and back and the other Bogota to Brazil and back. And that is all fine. I will be arriving in Bogota and then taking my flight to Brazil. The only issue is that I have a long layover at Bogota airport between those flight, almost 9 hours. I don't want to spend those 9 hours at the airport so I am planning to get out of the airport, have a decent meal and get back to the airport to take my flight to Brazil. Couple of days later, I will be coming back to Bogota, spend a few days there and then come back to USA.

Now, as I understand, everyone has to fill out the online immigration form for entering Colombia. I will have to submit two of these forms for this trip. The form asks for the address of the place you are going to stay at. I have booked the hotel for my return trip so I know the address. What address do I provide for the layover? I am not staying at any place. I'm just getting out of the airport and coming back in a few hours.

Thanks.If you are exiting the airport you will have to go through immigration and will need a place of stay on the CheckMIG form. Perhaps you can fake it and put the same hotel you will stay at on your return trip as I doubt they actually check. You have to submit the form every time you enter and leave Colombia. Others have said they have not recently done it but do you want to be the one taking the chance of not doing it and then they randomly ask you for it having you step off the line to complete it. I was there for carnival last month and I had to complete it both coming in and leaving JetBlue didn't let anyone bag drop or board unless they showed CheckMIG was completed when leaving from JFK and on the return trip JetBlue didn't let anyone bagdrop unless CheckMIG was completed. Maybe different airline different rules but since I only do the JetBlue direct flight I can only give my experience on what they have done to me since this CheckMIG thing started.

What I would be more concerned about is getting in to Brazil after being in Colombia or getting into Colombia after being in Brazil. I believe there is a yellow vaccine requirement to enter Brazil from Colombia or was it getting into Colombia from Brazil? Its one of those but I'm not 100% sure which one. If you don't have the immunization card I would look into it and see if its required. Again, I'm not 100% sure but its something to look into so you don't get caught off guard with a restriction.

HombreIndio
03-31-23, 19:37
What I would be more concerned about is getting in to Brazil after being in Colombia or getting into Colombia after being in Brazil. I believe there is a yellow vaccine requirement to enter Brazil from Colombia or was it getting into Colombia from Brazil? Its one of those but I'm not 100% sure which one. If you don't have the immunization card I would look into it and see if its required. Again, I'm not 100% sure but its something to look into so you don't get caught off guard with a restriction.Yes. You need to have a yellow fever vaccine 10 days before you enter Colombia coming from Brazil. I've already taken care of that.

Thanks.

Huacho
03-31-23, 20:34
What address do I provide for the layover? Use the address of any random hotel near the airport, or really any valid address. They don't give a shit.

HombreIndio
03-31-23, 23:05
I You have to submit the form every time you enter and leave Colombia.You mean to say I will have to submit the form to get back in the airport as well?

Nypher
04-01-23, 03:40
You mean to say I will have to submit the form to get back in the airport as well?Ideally the form is for your final destination since that is where you will have to go through immigration. But since you plan to leave the airport during a layover is a bit different.

I would suggest you fill it out to enter the Colombia, then fill it out to leave when going back to your home country. I'm not sure how it works if you have to fill it out to leave Colombia to go to Brazil and fill it out again upon return. It does count as an international flight so I would guess you have to fill that form out 4 times.

With JetBlue they usually Email me all the requirements a few days before the flight and things to fill out like the CheckMIG and upload the COVID card to the Attestation site. Again, different airlines different procedures. I would doublecheck with your airline so you don't get blindsided. If worse comes to worse its just filling gout the form 4 times, takes less than 5 minutes each time LOL.

Enjoy your trip.

DownLow123
04-04-23, 18:39
For those who has at least a week under there belt staying in Medellin, Bogota, Armenia, Cali, Cartengna, and Barrenquilla, which do you prefer to see females in and why?

HombreIndio
04-04-23, 23:57
If worse comes to worse its just filling gout the form 4 times, takes less than 5 minutes each time LOL.

Enjoy your trip.Thanks. Can I submit all 4 of them together?

Nypher
04-05-23, 02:51
Thanks. Can I submit all 4 of them together?The form can only be submitted 72 hours before the flight. So if the flight is on Friday the earliest would be Wednesday.

Huacho
04-05-23, 08:34
For those who has at least a week under there belt staying in Medellin, Bogota, Armenia, Cali, Cartengna, and Barrenquilla, which do you prefer to see females in and why?I don't think you will find more than a handful of guys who've spent at least a week in all those cities, especially Armenia. I have not been to Armenia or Cali but I think Barranquilla has the best looking women. Shakira is from there. But my favorite place to see women is Bogota (I've given up on trying to use accent marks with the auto correcting software). Just out of curiosity, what is your level of Spanish? The less you have, the more you want Medellin (again giving up on accent marks). Also, didn't you post you were going to Medellin and that "your plans wouldn't change"? Or did I dream that?

HombreIndio
04-05-23, 16:20
The form can only be submitted 72 hours before the flight. So if the flight is on Friday the earliest would be Wednesday.Thanks. So you submit the form and you get an email instantly and you show your airline that email or you need to wait till the Colombian authorities have fully processed your application? I read somewhere that airlines require the QR code which is not included in the initial email. Also, do I need it printed out or I can just show the email on the phone?

DownLow123
04-05-23, 20:17
I don't think you will find more than a handful of guys who've spent at least a week in all those cities, especially Armenia. I have not been to Armenia or Cali but I think Barranquilla has the best looking women. Shakira is from there. But my favorite place to see women is Bogota (I've given up on trying to use accent marks with the auto correcting software). Just out of curiosity, what is your level of Spanish? The less you have, the more you want Medellin (again giving up on accent marks). Also, didn't you post you were going to Medellin and that "your plans wouldn't change"? Or did I dream that?Hablo espanol poco but can hold down a small convo if spoken slowly. I will be in Laueleles April 11th. Thanks for the tip on Medellin. My next trip will be to Bogota with increased Spanish.

Nypher
04-06-23, 01:00
Thanks. So you submit the form and you get an email instantly and you show your airline that email or you need to wait till the Colombian authorities have fully processed your application? I read somewhere that airlines require the QR code which is not included in the initial email. Also, do I need it printed out or I can just show the email on the phone?You should get an email instantly, if not check the spam folder. But I always print the confirmation page or take a screenshot of it. The airline just have to see that you did it so you can show them the screenshot or email. They are looking for your name, passport number, flight number and date, and makes sure it matches you plane ticket and Passport.

But, I have to repeat, different airline different procedures. My experience is with JetBlue when it comes to this. I have zero clue how other airlines operate when it comes to the checkmig.

JackTaggart
04-06-23, 21:48
You should get an email instantly, if not check the spam folder. But I always print the confirmation page or take a screenshot of it. The airline just have to see that you did it so you can show them the screenshot or email. They are looking for your name, passport number, flight number and date, and makes sure it matches you plane ticket and Passport.

But, I have to repeat, different airline different procedures. My experience is with JetBlue when it comes to this. I have zero clue how other airlines operate when it comes to the checkmig.In 2022 and 2023 I have flown American, JetBlue, delta, and avianca. All were 100 percent fine with the instant download when you fill out the form. American required to see it to fly. Maybe delta too, but I forget. Avianca didn't even ask. All on the phone.

IAmThatGuy
04-07-23, 20:48
Heads up about the language barrier. If you would like to have a conversation with a girl I recommend taking a look at Microsoft Translator app. It can translate in-person conversations into multiple languages, and play voice message. You can speak English and the girl's phone will play a voice message to her in Spanish and vice versa. With a pair of headsets you can avoid typing text to translator and enjoy in a way better conversation.

IAmThatGuy
04-07-23, 21:00
Looks like Google Translate has a similar option except that it requires only a single device.

HombreIndio
04-08-23, 01:42
Use the address of any random hotel near the airport, or really any valid address. They don't give a shit.Thanks. I have actually decided to book a night at some nearby hotel to take a nap for a few hours. My flight arrives at Bogota at midnight and my next flight to Brazil is 9 hours later. I don't suppose there is much to do in Bogota during those hours.

Mr Enternational
04-08-23, 12:38
I have actually decided to book a night at some nearby hotel to take a nap for a few hours. My flight arrives at Bogota at midnight and my next flight to Brazil is 9 hours later. I don't suppose there is much to do in Bogota during those hours.Not much to do? I would drop my bag and head straight to Santa Fe. Maybe you could get Woodman to give you a tour at that hour. If not the place is not hard to navigate if you are not afraid of your own shadow.

Sean EZ
04-09-23, 01:19
I know this is Colombia thread but has anyone been to BA lately and how does it compare? I am not able to find any good info about Argentina elsewhere. I know it has more European looking women from memory, and that they are having currency problems at the moment.

Thanks in advance.

The Cane
04-09-23, 01:31
I know this is Colombia thread but has anyone been to BA lately and how does it compare? I am not able to find any good info about Argentina elsewhere. I know it has more European looking women from memory, and that they are having currency problems at the moment.

Thanks in advance.On the currency tip: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/03/11/i-doubled-my-money-in-argentina-with-a-black-market-exchange-rate.html (and since when has Argentina not been having currency problems LOL).

Questner
04-09-23, 01:32
I know this is Colombia thread but has anyone been to BA lately and how does it compare? I am not able to find any good info about Argentina elsewhere. I know it has more European looking women from memory, and that they are having currency problems at the moment.

Thanks in advance.I wouldn't try to compare. Sharpen your Rioplatense Spanish and see yourself. The advantage is culture, food and wine, women of Eastern European, Southern European and Middle Eastern heritage. Hobby there is much more challenging. For the exchange rate see 'dolar blue'. There are couple of local fora on Baires.

HombreIndio
04-09-23, 01:57
I women of Eastern European, Southern European and Middle Eastern heritage. .What makes these women go to Argentina and not Brazil? Just curious.

Eszpresszo
04-09-23, 03:24
I wouldn't try to compare. Sharpen your Rioplatense Spanish and see yourself. The advantage is culture, food and wine, women of Eastern European, Southern European and Middle Eastern heritage. Hobby there is much more challenging. For the exchange rate see 'dolar blue'. There are couple of local fora on Baires.Questner, have you been to Argentina, lately? Have you actually ever been there? Because you speaking with a tone of authority.

FYI, I was there in late August, and just to clarify an estimated 71% of the population of BA is of ITALIAN ancestry. They look like Italians. And they act like Italians. There are so many Italians in BA that there were posters for Italian political candidates all over BA (I have been told by an Italian consulate representative that expat Italians almost always vote absentee Italian elections). The Spanish is with an Italian accent. The second person singluar is "Vos", not "tu" nor "usted" with its own conjugation.

BTW your ethnic breakdown of BA is closer to that of Curitiba, Brazil. They also have Japanese in Curitiba, as well.

As far as women, they are lovely, and they are also the bitchiest women I have ever encountered in Latin America. Punting was the worst of any country I have done it in, which is as of today (I'm in Lima, Peru) maybe 15 countries. Even if you change money at the blue rate, there is not much value there as far as punting. But hey, you sound like you've had a lot of experience there, Questner. So tell us about why the hobby is much more challenging down there. I'm eager to here your experiences.

Eszpresszo
04-09-23, 05:00
I know this is Colombia thread but has anyone been to BA lately and how does it compare? I am not able to find any good info about Argentina elsewhere. I know it has more European looking women from memory, and that they are having currency problems at the moment.

Thanks in advance.As for money, yes Argentina is in a currency crisis because they have runaway inflation, so the steady decline of the Argentine Peso is only compensating for the rapidly declining buying power. In other words, its not cheaper to punt there now. Prices on everything, including poon is going up. After all, its costing these girls more to live every week, so don't think they are going to be spreading their legs for the same amount week after week. In summary, punting in Argentina is definitely more expensive than Colombia and a lousy value compared to Brazil (where I had been the previous two months before arriving in BA).

Yes, you get double the actual exchange rate on the street than you would at a bank. If you go to an ATM or use your credit card, you will get scalped. Its cheaper to take cabs instead of Uber because you will be charged the inflated official rate on your card with Uber. However, credit cards are not widely accepted in BA and the financial crisis has made vendors more suspicious of CC transactions, as I have been told. The "Blue Rate" is actually the fair representation of what the money is worth. You can also wire yourself money from your checking account directly to Western Union, though the fees that WU will charge you is extortionate.

Bringing cash is the way to go yet you end up taking the risks of having the cash lost or stolen.

And when I say the street rate, I do mean there are people offering to change money for you on the street. On Calle Florida, an upscale shopping strip in central BA, there are guys all over you pestering you to change money. They are aggressive to point of being annoyung I'm told to avoid them for someone more trusted. The host of my AirBnb gladly exchanged my two crisp $100 bills for a big pile of pesos. It's ridiculous because it could never fit in both your pockets. I am told that someone at your hotel will help you find a reputable person to change money with. At Western Union, they mostly paid me out in 100 and 500 peso bills, so I got so much currency that I had to put it in my shoulder bag. I felt like a criminal walking around with a bag full of money!

And to give an example of how high inflation is and how it impacts this hobby, I have this story. After the girl ghosted me at the hotel, I sent a Zap request for an encounter with another girl, who I'd gotten a response from. Problem was, she was way across town so I didn't immediately chose her first. But, she agreed to meet me the next afternoon (way across town). She was more professional in that when you sent her that initial Zap message you got the typical auto response message with prices, conditions and general location. When I sent her a Whatsapp the next door to confirm our appointment, I got another auto response with a new set of prices. About 30% higher. I initially thought she was hitting me with a gringo premium. Then I realized this was her standard auto response message. Yes, inflation is that bad and I couldn't complain too much. Back home, my landlord hit me with a 37% rent increase in April, around the same time my employer gave me a 2% raise. That's when I decided to retire. Yes, I could feel her pain. But, I didn't follow up with our appointment. I just booked a flight back to Sao Paulo.

As for the women, they are quite lovely, and demographically over 70% of the populace is of Italian extraction. The most prominent minority are the Chinese who only seem to be visible in the convenience and small grocery stores they run. In the first week, I was able to count all the black people I saw on the streets on one hand and still had fingers left over. So, if you are after exotic women, this is not your kind of place.

Now, the downside to all that beauty. They are the bitchiest women I have encountered in all of Latin America. An Italian friend warned me about them, saying "They're like Italian women, they're very difficult". My first night in BA I was standing in the line to checkout at a ordinary Carrefour supermarket (which always has long lines at the checkout) and saw a young woman in the line ahead of me suddenly just go off on her man and starting hitting him and screaming at him. Eventually a manager intervened and they left. But, not long after I saw the same thing happen on the street. And other times, I've seen them scream hysterically at people on the street that they were having an issue with. In terms of customer service type jobs, the women were very unpleasant. I've been here in Lima, Peru for 3 nights and I am so amazed at how nice the women are when you go to the store or a cafe, etc. While they are nowhere as pretty but, I will take these Peruanas any day. But, in BA the tourist is not terribly respected. Particularly when dealing with the women who work at the Subte stations. Plus, English is NOT widely spoken though Italian is.

That said, Buenos Aires is a lovely, amazing city that you should visit. Its got to be the best place in the world to have a good steak along with a very good and actually cheap bottle of wine. The real surprise about Argentina is that the wine is cheap and good. You can go to the Chinese-run convenience store on the corner were an actual "Nissan Cup of Noodles" is expensive but a bottle of good domestic wine is cheap. Also, the metro train (called the "Subte") is really good, so you can get around really well, once you figure out where to buy the "Subte" card (sold at convenience stores, not at the Subi stations) and how to recharge them. But, the city is quite safe, and you will see police everywhere, even late at night. I've never seen such a high concentration of police in any place I've been.

I don't regret visiting BA, at all. It's a marvelous city. If you are in Brazil and at the limit of your 90 day stay, it's the cheapest flight out to a foreign country (cheaper than a domestic flight to Salvador.) But, it is no punter's paradise, no matter how good the women look.

Questner
04-10-23, 01:31
What makes these women go to Argentina and not Brazil? Just curious.Argentina may be similar to Brazil with respect to the period and source of immigration from Europe; the case is different for Colombia. For example, I like girls of Italian heritage. Where can I find them? Not in Colombia. Italy is one of the worst places for the hobby. Argentina on the other hand has a plenty.

Nounce
04-10-23, 16:11
I know this is Colombia thread but has anyone been to BA lately and how does it compare? I am not able to find any good info about Argentina elsewhere. I....BA still has two clubs that you can get girls easily. They quote in USD and are not cheap. I had a couple from the clubs.

The messages were from several months ago. She was 18 when I met her and her friend. We just went straight to BBFS in my hotel. Less than a year later, her rate has increased 150% and the currency depreciated 100% and she has enough clients so she no longer go to the club.

The other two are ads that are in downtown area. These are the cheap apartment options. There will be a few chicas sharing an apartment. The woman in the picture was removing the ads. That is also where many tourists exchange money. These guys just standing there whispering "cambio', "cambio' and they usually don't bother you. Like most el centros. Robbery happens here. You can also find SGs at night here but not many. There was another cluster that I saws with more girls and trans near San Telmo. To get the metro card, you can just get it from the chain convenient stores called 25 HS or something like that. They are all over but I am not sure all of them carry the card.

Chicago85
04-11-23, 02:21
What makes these women go to Argentina and not Brazil? Just curious.I think most are descendants of those that immigrated to Argentina in the first half of the 20th century. Argentina did not involve itself in either of the World Wars and was a Top 10 or Top 15 country for many of those years on a GDP per person basis. In short, it was much richer and more advanced than Brazil when there was heavy migration.

Sean EZ
04-11-23, 05:13
Many replies, some are very thorough, thanks guys. I ve been to BA about 15-20 years ago or so when all the boliches / clubs were open and they were fun back then, also just going to regular bars and pubs and clubs was fun. I spent last few years in Eastern Europe and got used to European looks, which you don't get that often in Colombia, occasionally only. So was thinking to check out BA after I saw the beauties on seeking over there. I got impression the going rate for these girls is 200-300+ but some are absolutely gorgeous. I think Colombia these days with all the girls in the Parque Llerras and other areas and clubs Tinder, etc etc, not many places in the world can compare in therms of the number available girls at relatively low rates. I was also in Peru last month and can agree with the observation the quality is not the same but they treat you so nice, I think every girls there loved to lick balls for a long time. Not sure about Brazil anymore, it got really expensive and I found most girls working to be 25+, I prefer them little younger, maybe I went to top and posh places.

XXL
04-11-23, 15:53
It seems the latest tax-reform (reforma tributaria 2022) brought in a tax exemption of foreing pensions up to 8600 USD a month. Chicas here I come!

Can any forum member recommend a visa agent in Colombia? I'm not especially interested in an agent who speaks English as I speak the local lingo and an agent who does business in Spanish is less likely to charge gringo fees.

YoungPapi
04-12-23, 06:58
Hello everyone! I've finally booked a flight to Colombia for the first time after years of saying I would go, I manned up and did it and I'm going to stay in Colombia for about 3 weeks mainly staying in Medellin. Now I don't really need help with much I just want to ask a few questions about airbnb and other things. First how is the experience with self check in places? What are things I should look out for on these listings? I'm not really going out to monger mainly because over the past 5 years I've invested time (and some money) on some ex cam girls and current cam girls that werent / arent really that big popularity wise. So naturally I'm going to meet up with these girls (3 in medellin and 2 in Bogota also a couple other girls in other cities) and have no actual need for SWs or to look for girls in clubs or whatever. But I want to be prepared if any of the girls I talk to flakes on me so this is why I'm asking about AirBnb in case I do end up going for the other options. I'm planning on staying in between Envigado (which seems most airbnbs in the neighborhood don't really like you bringing SWs) and Laureles. As for Bogota I haven't done much research on the safe neighborhoods but ill look them up eventually.

Another question I have mainly for my fellow gringos if any have experience with TD Bank and which ATMs to use? I was planning on taking like 200 in cash just in case but IDK if that's a smart idea?

Last question are Uber and Cabify safe choices to use for transport? I've done my research and seems like those are fine but just wanted to ask anyways.

Nypher
04-12-23, 14:25
Hello everyone! I've finally booked a flight to Colombia for the first time after years of saying I would go, I manned up and did it and I'm going to stay in Colombia for about 3 weeks mainly staying in Medellin. Now I don't really need help with much I just want to ask a few questions about airbnb and other things. First how is the experience with self check in places? What are things I should look out for on these listings? I'm not really going out to monger mainly because over the past 5 years I've invested time (and some money) on some ex cam girls and current cam girls that werent / arent really that big popularity wise. So naturally I'm going to meet up with these girls (3 in medellin and 2 in Bogota also a couple other girls in other cities) and have no actual need for SWs or to look for girls in clubs or whatever. But I want to be prepared if any of the girls I talk to flakes on me so this is why I'm asking about AirBnb in case I do end up going for the other options. I'm planning on staying in between Envigado (which seems most airbnbs in the neighborhood don't really like you bringing SWs) and Laureles. As for Bogota I haven't done much research on the safe neighborhoods but ill look them up eventually..Way too many things here that can go wrong.

When I went to Medellin it took forever to find an Airbnb that would allow guests without a fee per guest. I wish you all the best with that.

You were spending money on girls you never met over 5 years and believe all will go well? I wish you all the best with that.

If those girls don't flake on you or played te long game to set you up, they will want money so make sure you got enough cash.

You're only taking $200 in cash? Well if you plan on using a credit card with no foreign transaction fees and only go to places that accept cards that can work but I suggest $500 minimum.

For TD Bank if you are referring to a debit card then it can work as they charge a flat fee but if its a credit card I would strongly advise against using that to get money from the ATM unless you want multiple fees per transaction which can add up real fast.

You can use Uber, just remember its not exactly legal so as long as there isn't no cop trying to make extra money and pull the car over you will be ok. The other is Didi and inDriver.

Bookmarking this one, I know this one will be an adventure I definitely want to see the outcome on. My popcorn is ready!

LatinaLover#1
04-12-23, 19:11
Not long ago, The xchange rate was near 4900 now 4400 and change. 500 cop less shakes out to about 50,000 cop less for every $100 usd exchanged. That in and of itself, is not a deal breaker but no one knows where the bottom is anymore with the very ignorant financial steps and spending the current administration is taking. I'm curious what our currency experts see for the dollar going forth.

Fun Luvr
04-12-23, 20:09
Not long ago, The xchange rate was near 4900 now 4400 and change. 500 cop less shakes out to about 50,000 cop less for every $100 usd exchanged. That in and of itself, is not a deal breaker but no one knows where the bottom is anymore with the very ignorant financial steps and spending the current administration is taking. I'm curious what our currency experts see for the dollar going forth.Today, you can get 4564 at the ATM's. As LatinLover stated, the value of the dollar is dropping fast.

Zeos1
04-12-23, 20:11
Not long ago, The xchange rate was near 4900 now 4400 and change. 500 cop less shakes out to about 50,000 cop less for every $100 usd exchanged. That in and of itself, is not a deal breaker but no one knows where the bottom is anymore with the very ignorant financial steps and spending the current administration is taking. I'm curious what our currency experts see for the dollar going forth.Lucky you're not in Costa Rica, the US dollar has gone down over 30% relative to the CRC. Something unique to Costa Rica probably.

There are 2 sides to every currency pair. And it has very little or nothing to do with your internal US politics. The US dollar is still a go-to place when there is a lot of volatility in the world markets, and often goes down when things settle down in other places. So if you can predict world events you may get a way of predicting the moves of the dollar. Good luck.

Playboy2021
04-12-23, 20:50
Its cheaper to take cabs instead of Uber because you will be charged the inflated official rate on your card with Uber. However, credit cards are not widely accepted in BA and the financial crisis has made vendors more suspicious of CC transactions, as I have been told. The "Blue Rate" is actually the fair representation of what the money is worth. You can also wire yourself money from your checking account directly to Western Union, though the fees that WU will charge you is extortionate.Thought I'd quickly contribute as I just arrived in Buenos Aires two days ago after a couple weeks in Rio. You can now get the blue dollar rate using a credit card but it shows up as a refund a day later. (at least using a Visa card). That is, you're charged the official rate (about 200 pesos per dollar) but then refunded the difference of the blue dollar which is closer to 370 pesos per dollar.

Girls on seeking are asking anywhere from $100 to $300. If you are looking for European looking girls, this is the spot. To quickly compare to other destinations, I spent twelve months in Colombia over the past couple years (mostly in Medellin) and I'll say it's certainly more economical and there are girls everywhere (online, clubs, parque Lleras, etc). Been to Rio multiple times and no comparison in terms of service (kissing, blowjobs, etc) Brasileiras are more consistent. More variety in terms of looks and lots of girls available at different price points: $30 in prives, $125 boates / termas, up to $200 online.

Happy hunting boys!

LatinaLover#1
04-12-23, 22:12
Lucky you're not in Costa Rica, the US dollar has gone down over 30% relative to the CRC. Something unique to Costa Rica probably.

There are 2 sides to every currency pair. And it has very little or nothing to do with your internal US politics. The US dollar is still a go-to place when there is a lot of volatility in the world markets, and often goes down when things settle down in other places. So if you can predict world events you may get a way of predicting the moves of the dollar. Good luck.CR was my go to place for years and years, lived in Perez Z. For 6 months off and on. The Colones was at 400 I think and took years to get to 500 at it seems it's been there forever, even today it's only 10 or 20 Colones over the 500 now. Seems like the CR Colones is a lot more stable than most 3rd world countries.

Huacho
04-13-23, 03:47
Lucky you're not in Costa Rica, the US dollar has gone down over 30% relative to the CRC. Something unique to Costa Rica probably.

There are 2 sides to every currency pair. And it has very little or nothing to do with your internal US politics. The US dollar is still a go-to place when there is a lot of volatility in the world markets, and often goes down when things settle down in other places. So if you can predict world events you may get a way of predicting the moves of the dollar. Good luck.The thing is, very few people can actually predict what foreign currency exchange rates will do in the long run. I, however, due to vast amounts of experience and education, can predict exactly what foreign currency exchanges rates will do in the long run.

They will fluctuate.

IAmThatGuy
04-13-23, 05:04
Visiting Medellin soon and I have some questions. Will return the favor with reports.

1. How much and when do you tip security guy? Do you guys tell security guy you will be bringing girls and then just hand him over cash? I've never done that before. Don't want to come off as rude and just show up with cash in hand.

2. Do ladies accept $US or strictly COP? Should I bring $US with me and swap to COP at the airport currency exchange, or it's better to withdraw from the ATM?

3. When it comes to tipping, do Colombians prefer COP or $US? Do they have tipping culture like in the US for the restaurants, Uber?

4. Where can one buy plan be and condoms (preferably well known brands such as Durex)? And how much plan be costs.

5. Is Cialis available without prescription? If so where can I buy it, and which brand should I ask for?

Zeos1
04-13-23, 13:10
CR was my go to place for years and years, lived in Perez Z. For 6 months off and on. The Colones was at 400 I think and took years to get to 500 at it seems it's been there forever, even today it's only 10 or 20 Colones over the 500 now. Seems like the CR Colones is a lot more stable than most 3rd world countries.Last June the dollar was over 700 colones. Today it is around 500, as you say. That is an extreme increase in the value of the colon. And the economy is not thought to be all that stable with IMF offering negative opinions, among other "reviews". The most likely explanation is that with some IMF backing CR is borrowing in Europe (issuing Eurobonds or something like that) and in Euros, and when they get the proceeds they go back to CR and buy colones in order to pay their civil service and other government paid folks, hence driving up demand for colones and causing this artificial increase in value. When the reverse happens (when these loans need to be repaid, or coupons paid, etc) this pattern reverses and they will be selling colones to buy Euros to pay off these bonds.

Anyway. Whatever the reason. Anyone that invested in CR in the past year is getting hammered.

Mr Enternational
04-13-23, 15:55
Visiting Medellin soon and I have some questions. Will return the favor with reports.

1. How much and when do you tip security guy? Zero. Never. For what?


2. Do ladies accept $US or strictly COP?Why would you be trying to pay with USD? Can you imagine having a store in the United States and a person from Japan coming in and trying to pay you with Yen? In Colombia legal tinder is the Colombian Peso.


3. When it comes to tipping, do Colombians prefer COP or $US? Do they have tipping culture like in the US for the restaurants, Uber?What are you giving away money for? Things cost what they cost. There is no need to pay more than what it costs.


4. Where can one buy plan be and condoms (preferably well known brands such as Durex)?Pharmacy same as any other country. Although there are also condoms sold at sex shops.


5. Is Cialis available without prescription? If so where can I buy it, and which brand should I ask for?A pharmacy again. Ask for the generic name: Tadalafil.

JjBee62
04-13-23, 16:38
The thing is, very few people can actually predict what foreign currency exchange rates will do in the long run. I, however, due to vast amounts of experience and education, can predict exactly what foreign currency exchanges rates will do in the long run.

They will fluctuate.Those "very few people" get caught and fined millions of dollars every 3 or so years for collaborating to ensure the foreign currency markets fluctuate in line with their predictions. The banks work together to move the markets, makes millions every day for years, get caught and fined about 0. 01% of their stolen money and told that if they do it again, they will get the same fine.

JjBee62
04-13-23, 17:12
Visiting Medellin soon and I have some questions. Will return the favor with reports.

1. How much and when do you tip security guy? Do you guys tell security guy you will be bringing girls and then just hand him over cash? I've never done that before. Don't want to come off as rude and just show up with cash in hand.

2. Do ladies accept $US or strictly COP? Should I bring $US with me and swap to COP at the airport currency exchange, or it's better to withdraw from the ATM?

3. When it comes to tipping, do Colombians prefer COP or $US? Do they have tipping culture like in the US for the restaurants, Uber?1. Try smiling, and giving a friendly greeting. Works wonders.

2. Medellin is in Colombia, which is not part of the United States. They have their own government and even their own currency, the Colombian Peso. Look at it like this:

If you have a dog and you want to give the dog a treat, do you pay it in dog treats, or do you just give it a $5 bill?

2 A. If you want to get robbed in Medellin, you will have many opportunities. There's no sense in embracing the first thieves you see and handing them your money. Airport currency exchanges almost universally will rip you off with a ridiculous rate, 20-30% less than the current rate.

2 B. If you bring a bunch of dollars, you're always in possession of plenty of juicy cash for anyone to steal. Then you need to make trips to a currency exchange in order to convert it. If you carry an ATM card, you can limit the amount of cash on hand to what you need for a few days. Davivienda ATMs have no fees and will dispense up to 2 million COP pee transaction. Always decline the currency conversion offered by the ATM.

3. Refer to #2. It's Colombia. They use Colombian pesos. This should not be confusing.

3 A. Most restaurants will add in a 10% service charge to your bill. That is the tip. The bill will come with 2 totals, with and without the service charge, along with a long explanation in Spanish that the service charge is voluntary. No other tip is required.

3 B. Restaurant service is not like the US. Go in, sit down and someone will probably bring you a menu. That's the last time you will see your waiter, unless you flag them down or get their attention. If you need another drink, if there's a problem with your food, if you want your bill, if your hair is on fire, the waiters will not bother you, unless you get their attention.

4. Bring your own condoms. If you find yourself needing a plan Be, go to a pharmacy. They will tell you the cost.

5. Cialis and Viagra, along with the generics are available at any pharmacy without a prescription. Either ask for the name brand, or the generic.

All of your questions have been answered many times in the Medellin thread. There are also many other questions, some a matter of life or death, which have been answered there. You really should have done some research.

TjBrazil
04-13-23, 20:53
1. Try smiling, and giving a friendly greeting. Works wonders.

2. Medellin is in Colombia, which is not part of the United States. They have their own government and even their own currency, the Colombian Peso. Look at it like this:

If you have a dog and you want to give the dog a treat, do you pay it in dog treats, or do you just give it a $5 bill?

2 A. If you want to get robbed in Medellin, you will have many opportunities. There's no sense in embracing the first thieves you see and handing them your money. Airport currency exchanges almost universally will rip you off with a ridiculous rate, 20-30% less than the current rate.

2 B. If you bring a bunch of dollars, you're always in possession of plenty of juicy cash for anyone to steal. Then you need to make trips to a currency exchange in order to convert it. If you carry an ATM card, you can limit the amount of cash on hand to what you need for a few days. Davivienda ATMs have no fees and will dispense up to 2 million COP pee transaction. Always decline the currency conversion offered by the ATM.

3. Refer to #2. It's Colombia. They use Colombian pesos. This should not be confusing.

3 A. Most restaurants will add in a 10% service charge to your bill. That is the tip. The bill will come with 2 totals, with and without the service charge, along with a long explanation in Spanish that the service charge is voluntary. No other tip is required.

3 B. Restaurant service is not like the US. Go in, sit down and someone will probably bring you a menu. That's the last time you will see your waiter, unless you flag them down or get their attention. If you need another drink, if there's a problem with your food, if you want your bill, if your hair is on fire, the waiters will not bother you, unless you get their attention.

4. Bring your own condoms. If you find yourself needing a plan Be, go to a pharmacy. They will tell you the cost.

5. Cialis and Viagra, along with the generics are available at any pharmacy without a prescription. Either ask for the name brand, or the generic.

All of your questions have been answered many times in the Medellin thread. There are also many other questions, some a matter of life or death, which have been answered there. You really should have done some research.Just bring some fives and tens for the ride to the hotel from the airport. No need to exchange money at the airport. After check in, go find a safe ATM at a bank and take out pesos, always decline their rate and then you will get the real rate. The Uber rate to la mansion is showing 103,000 pesos. That's 24.00. Offer the taxis 25 to 30 on the high end and you will get to your hotel without being raped. If you can use Uber at the airport, use that.

Huacho
04-15-23, 05:00
Those "very few people" get caught and fined millions of dollars every 3 or so years for collaborating to ensure the foreign currency markets fluctuate in line with their predictions. The banks work together to move the markets, makes millions every day for years, get caught and fined about 0. 01% of their stolen money and told that if they do it again, they will get the same fine.Dude, that was basically a joke. I know you are on the spectrum and overly literal but come on.

YoungPapi
04-15-23, 07:57
Way too many things here that can go wrong.

When I went to Medellin it took forever to find an Airbnb that would allow guests without a fee per guest. I wish you all the best with that.

You were spending money on girls you never met over 5 years and believe all will go well? I wish you all the best with that.

If those girls don't flake on you or played te long game to set you up, they will want money so make sure you got enough cash.

You're only taking $200 in cash? Well if you plan on using a credit card with no foreign transaction fees and only go to places that accept cards that can work but I suggest $500 minimum.

For TD Bank if you are referring to a debit card then it can work as they charge a flat fee but if its a credit card I would strongly advise against using that to get money from the ATM unless you want multiple fees per transaction which can add up real fast.

You can use Uber, just remember its not exactly legal so as long as there isn't no cop trying to make extra money and pull the car over you will be ok. The other is Didi and inDriver.

Bookmarking this one, I know this one will be an adventure I definitely want to see the outcome on. My popcorn is ready!Lmao honestly I'm half expecting this so I might end up picking up a girl or 2 but ill see what happens.

HombreIndio
04-20-23, 22:32
What is Ratos? Never heard that slang in Costa Rica. Girls in Bogota quote rates for Ratos.

JjBee62
04-21-23, 02:55
What is Ratos? Never heard that slang in Costa Rica. Girls in Bogota quote rates for Ratos.It's an indeterminate amount of time. Typically however long it takes to get the job done.

YoungPapi
04-21-23, 10:38
Way too many things here that can go wrong.

When I went to Medellin it took forever to find an Airbnb that would allow guests without a fee per guest. I wish you all the best with that.

You were spending money on girls you never met over 5 years and believe all will go well? I wish you all the best with that.

If those girls don't flake on you or played te long game to set you up, they will want money so make sure you got enough cash.

You're only taking $200 in cash? Well if you plan on using a credit card with no foreign transaction fees and only go to places that accept cards that can work but I suggest $500 minimum.

For TD Bank if you are referring to a debit card then it can work as they charge a flat fee but if its a credit card I would strongly advise against using that to get money from the ATM unless you want multiple fees per transaction which can add up real fast.

You can use Uber, just remember its not exactly legal so as long as there isn't no cop trying to make extra money and pull the car over you will be ok. The other is Didi and inDriver.

Bookmarking this one, I know this one will be an adventure I definitely want to see the outcome on. My popcorn is ready!So the main the girl I wanted to meet flaked on me hasnt responded at all. Unfortunately that didn't work out but luckily and somehow which was a big ass win was the second girl I wanted to meet. At first it seemed like she was going to flake on me mainly because she was scared of meeting me which was understandable but I had hoped she wasnt going to flake. Luckily on Wednesday night she told me she was going to meet me but she was going to bring someone over a female. It was really risky to agree to but I said fuck it why not. Then came the time if their arrival. Mind you at this point I haven't paid for the taxi or anything yet. Also the Airbnb I'm staying at doesn't say anything about visitors or partying. All it says is 5 guests max. So I took the risk and had them come over at midnight mind you this is a girl who works as a cam girl so she stopped working just to meet up with me. I probably had the best 5 hours of my life because I fucked 2 girls LOL it wasn't a threesome but it was still nice. Plus it turned out they were cousins which was funny. Paid them 150 usd each for like 6 hours plus I went in raw with the main girl. Went with condom on the cousin. I'm supposed to meet the girl again next week but this time she'll be with me for 2 days. I guess I'm lucky she didn't flake now I'm going to head out to Cali and Bogota for a couple days each because I got some girls waiting there too. Luckily I haven't invested in those much at all so if I can't get a good price on them I'll probably end up skipping. Also I tried a prepago on Tuesday because I needed some Colombian action ASAP so ill be leaving a review in the medellin reports.

ChuchoLoco
04-21-23, 13:50
What is Ratos? Never heard that slang in Costa Rica. Girls in Bogota quote rates for Ratos.Rato, a while, a bit of time.

Un ratito, a short while, a little bit of time.

PigSavinBoy
04-21-23, 14:39
What is Ratos? Never heard that slang in Costa Rica. Girls in Bogota quote rates for Ratos.Usually un rato with SWs is either until you pop or half hour expires (knock of the door), whichever comes first. Always best to clarify with the provider though.

HombreIndio
04-23-23, 23:00
Hi all,

My flight is departing from US on Sunday evening and arriving at Bogota past midnight. So, on the check-in, I enter Sunday's date or Monday's?

Nypher
04-24-23, 03:06
Hi all,

My flight is departing from US on Sunday evening and arriving at Bogota past midnight. So, on the check-in, I enter Sunday's date or Monday's?I believe the website asks for flight date, not arrival date. Input the date when your flight departs.

Nypher
04-24-23, 03:48
So the main the girl I wanted to meet flaked on me hasnt responded at all. Unfortunately that didn't work out but luckily and somehow which was a big ass win was the second girl I wanted to meet. At first it seemed like she was going to flake on me mainly because she was scared of meeting me which was understandable but I had hoped she wasnt going to flake. Luckily on Wednesday night she told me she was going to meet me but she was going to bring someone over a female. It was really risky to agree to but I said fuck it why not. Then came the time if their arrival. Mind you at this point I haven't paid for the taxi or anything yet. Also the Airbnb I'm staying at doesn't say anything about visitors or partying. All it says is 5 guests max. So I took the risk and had them come over at midnight mind you this is a girl who works as a cam girl so she stopped working just to meet up with me. I probably had the best 5 hours of my life because I fucked 2 girls LOL it wasn't a threesome but it was still nice. Plus it turned out they were cousins which was funny. Paid them 150 usd each for like 6 hours plus I went in raw with the main girl. Went with condom on the cousin. I'm supposed to meet the girl again next week but this time she'll be with me for 2 days. I guess I'm lucky she didn't flake now I'm going to head out to Cali and Bogota for a couple days each because I got some girls waiting there too. Luckily I haven't invested in those much at all so if I can't get a good price on them I'll probably end up skipping. Also I tried a prepago on Tuesday because I needed some Colombian action ASAP so ill be leaving a review in the medellin reports.They are insanely flakey.

I've had many flake on me but some how I always end up matching with their friend in one of their group photos they had on their profile and when their friend video call them and sees me in the background they get super salty and all of a sudden want to meet me, and I just decline and keep the friend jajaja.

Good you had a great encounter. Very risky meeting 2 girls by yourself. I wouldn't do that with new girls at all especially when solo.

Be careful out there and enjoy your time.

Mr Enternational
04-24-23, 05:27
You should get an email instantly, if not check the spam folder. But I always print the confirmation page or take a screenshot of it. Ok. I just found myself in the group that not get the checkmig email. It says it was completed correctly and the correct email is listed, but I did not receive it in normal or spam boxes.

Nypher
04-24-23, 17:17
Ok. I just found myself in the group that not get the checkmig email. It says it was completed correctly and the correct email is listed, but I did not receive it in normal or spam boxes.Hopefully you took a screenshot or used print to PDF so you have the document on your phone, previously I was in the same boat where I didn't instantly get the email and tried to complete it again and got the error that it was already completed.

Ever since they started this Checkmig thing, JetBlue has never let me bag drop or board unless I showed them the CheckMig was completed. Maybe you will be one of the lucky ones that don't get asked for the form.

HombreIndio
04-24-23, 22:37
previously I was in the same boat where I didn't instantly get the email and tried to complete it again and got the error that it was already completed.

.Can you submit both the arrival and departure together if both the flights are in next 72 hours? My layover is about 7 hours long in Bogota.

DownLow123
04-25-23, 00:48
Ok. I just found myself in the group that not get the checkmig email. It says it was completed correctly and the correct email is listed, but I did not receive it in normal or spam boxes.The airpor has a copy on there server if you received the "completed" grey box they send you. I know because I fucked up on my passport number and the immigration guy in Bogota printed it out for me to show me where I fucked up. I don't think you have much to worry about.

You know what to do next time, save the pdf which most phones and computer can do and screenshot the page with all the info on it.

Nypher
04-25-23, 02:13
Can you submit both the arrival and departure together if both the flights are in next 72 hours? My layover is about 7 hours long in Bogota.I would wait and do it the night before the flight but that's just me. I usually fill out my checkMIG the night before when I'm packing up.

Nypher
04-25-23, 02:21
The airpor has a copy on there server if you received the "completed" grey box they send you. I know because I fucked up on my passport number and the immigration guy in Bogota printed it out for me to show me where I fucked up. I don't think you have much to worry about.

You know what to do next time, save the pdf which most phones and computer can do and screenshot the page with all the info on it.We don't know if OP is entering or leaving.

In my experience when entering, on the American side they would not let me bag drop or board unless I show the form is completed. This can be an issue if OP is stopped and asked for the form because even though he completed it only Micracion in Colombia can see it on their computers.

On the Colombian side when exiting, I've experienced the same but I've heard some say they don't ask for the form.

Yes, as you said which is great advice to everyone, always print to PDF and / or screenshot that final page just incase that email doesn't make it.

Zeos1
04-25-23, 04:07
The airpor has a copy on there server if you received the "completed" grey box they send you. I know because I fucked up on my passport number and the immigration guy in Bogota printed it out for me to show me where I fucked up. I don't think you have much to worry about.

You know what to do next time, save the pdf which most phones and computer can do and screenshot the page with all the info on it.I just left Colombia and there was no mention anywhere of having to complete the chek mig form. No one checked for it, wasn't mentioned at check in at the airport. Nada.

Fun Luvr
04-25-23, 15:38
I just left Colombia and there was no mention anywhere of having to complete the chek mig form. No one checked for it, wasn't mentioned at check in at the airport. Nada.I think that depends on which airline you use. Copa has wanted to see it every time I leave the country since the inception of CheckMig.

Mr Enternational
04-25-23, 16:14
On arrival in Bogota last night chick from Cartagena met me. Her flight came in 4 hours before mine. We went outside to order Indriver. One lady came up to me talking about a ride. She was saying something about Uber not picking up. I told her where I was going and she said 45,000. I showed her my phone on the Indriver app where the car was on the way for 17,500. She walked off.

Another chick walked up with the same story, but she said it would be 30,000. When I showed her the price on my phone she said that the Indriver driver would charge 10,000 more than that. Silly rabbit, this is not my first time. Beware of these hustlers.

Alwayshard45
04-26-23, 00:29
I am flying into Bogota on the 7th of May and was considering taking Avianca since they have a full lay-flat bed in the "business" class. The website has very little info on in-flight services which I am guessing means there isn't much. But my question is, on their website, it says passengers will be given a maximum of 2 alcoholic beverages per flight. Is this true? For a 7-hour flight? Has anyone done the LAX-BOG route and experienced this?

JackTaggart
04-26-23, 10:51
I am flying into Bogota on the 7th of May and was considering taking Avianca since they have a full lay-flat bed in the "business" class. The website has very little info on in-flight services which I am guessing means there isn't much. But my question is, on their website, it says passengers will be given a maximum of 2 alcoholic beverages per flight. Is this true? For a 7-hour flight? Has anyone done the LAX-BOG route and experienced this?Can't speak for from lax. But I did "business" round trip jfk Bogota and it was a slightly bigger seat, 2 x 2, and same service as coach. Not lie flat, but don't recall it being marketed as that. Only water on the flight. And shrink wrapped crappy sandwich. This was last October I think. The crew was also not attentive at all. Never did get that 2nd water.

Honestly spirit airlines was better. Much better. Or a prop plane.

Mr Enternational
04-26-23, 16:12
I am flying into Bogota on the 7th of May and was considering taking Avianca. But my question is, on their website, it says passengers will be given a maximum of 2 alcoholic beverages per flight. Is this true?Going from Bogota to Barranquilla once I had one drink and was waiting for the lady to come through again but she didn't. So I went up to ask for another drink and she tried to give me a talk about how alcohol affects you differently in the air than on the ground. Bih I do not want to hear that. Just give me my damn drink.

As JT said it is not worth it. You just get the same shit the people in the back get. And these days for first class they still have the same 3 seats as coach except they have managed to put an armrest table over that middle seat instead of having bigger normal first class seats.

LatinaLover#1
04-27-23, 13:39
I think that depends on which airline you use. Copa has wanted to see it every time I leave the country since the inception of CheckMig.At one time I flew Continental exclusively, then Jetblue, then Delta. Now I fly whoever has the best price and / or schedule. Always get asked on my flight to Bogota, regardless of airline. In the last year or two, never asked, on leaving Bogota by immigration or airline. I believe they have your check mig in the computer from your entry and the Mig, is mostly required to know where your going to stay. So leaving they don't care. Seems to me the Covid thing, 5 flights in the last 12 months, is finally dying out. I expect the Mig thing to end soon.

Mr Enternational
04-27-23, 13:46
On the Colombian side when exiting, I've experienced the same but I've heard some say they don't ask for the form.Usually I will complete the form when leaving Colombia, but today I totally forgot and just remembered now that I am in the airport club. Nobody said anything in check in or immigration.

Mr Enternational
04-27-23, 13:50
Seems to me the Covid thing, 5 flights in the last 12 months, is finally dying out. I expect the Mig thing to end soon.Why would the check mig end? It has nothing to do with covid and everything to do with tracking people coming into the country.

JjBee62
04-27-23, 16:19
At one time I flew Continental exclusively, then Jetblue, then Delta. Now I fly whoever has the best price and / or schedule. Always get asked on my flight to Bogota, regardless of airline. In the last year or two, never asked, on leaving Bogota by immigration or airline. I believe they have your check mig in the computer from your entry and the Mig, is mostly required to know where your going to stay. So leaving they don't care. Seems to me the Covid thing, 5 flights in the last 12 months, is finally dying out. I expect the Mig thing to end soon.The Check-Mig probably won't end, although it seems the outbound portion is being disregarded. The Check-Mig replaces the paper form they used to hand out during the flight to Colombia.

DownLow123
04-28-23, 17:54
The Check-Mig probably won't end, although it seems the outbound portion is being disregarded. The Check-Mig replaces the paper form they used to hand out during the flight to Colombia.I was not asked for completion of the check-mig form leaving Colombia. They just stamped my passport and off I went.

One important thing to note concerning baggage, You don't have to retrieve your checked bag arriving to Colombia internationally after customs. However, you do have to retrieve your checked bag leaving Colombia entering and international country. I used Latam air from states to Colombia and used delta to fly domestic in the usa.

Fun Luvr
04-28-23, 18:15
One important thing to note concerning baggage, You don't have to retrieve your checked bag arriving to Colombia internationally after customs. However, you do have to retrieve your checked bag leaving Colombia entering and international country. I used Latam air from states to Colombia and used delta to fly domestic in the usa.Your statement is a little confusing. If you have a connection in another country while traveling to the US, you do not have to retrieve your checked bag in the connecting country. You must retrieve your bag when entering the US, even if you have a connecting flight in the US.

BTW, I did not receive an email after completing the Check-Mig for leaving Colombia. I always download the confirmation when I complete the form, so an email is not important for me.

HombreIndio
04-28-23, 18:32
Ok. I just found myself in the group that not get the checkmig email. It says it was completed correctly and the correct email is listed, but I did not receive it in normal or spam boxes.Just happened me to me too. Submitted the form but didn't get an email. Thanks to this forum, I knew I should download the PDF which I did.

DownLow123
04-28-23, 19:48
Your statement is a little confusing. If you have a connection in another country while traveling to the US, you do not have to retrieve your checked bag in the connecting country. You must retrieve your bag when entering the US, even if you have a connecting flight in the US.So what I meant was when traveling to Colombia (at least for me by Latam air) I did not have to retrieve my checked bag in Colombia, it followed me from my starting point in us all the way to Bogota, than medellin.

Traveling back to the us, once I reached us I had to retrieve bag after customs and recheck it in with connecting flight.

AmorPorFavor
04-29-23, 01:46
When I arrived in Medellin earlier this month handed the customs agent my passport and a print out of my check mig. He did not even look at the check mig. I asked him if he had it in his system and he said yes. So you should probably do it on the way out too since they will know if you did it or not and of course on the way in.

Mr Enternational
04-29-23, 02:28
Ok. I just found myself in the group that not get the checkmig email. It says it was completed correctly and the correct email is listed, but I did not receive it in normal or spam boxes.Well 5 days later I just received the checkmig email!

AddictedToWomen
04-29-23, 12:04
I believe the website asks for flight date, not arrival date. Input the date when your flight departs.The really nice thing about Migracion Colombia is that they're not a bunch of cunts like the TSA Nazis. Very human, very friendly, happy to sort out the stupid shit to get wrong on the form and more. Don't sweat it.

Bdd1124
04-29-23, 15:49
Well 5 days later I just received the checkmig email!Same for me I got it this morning and have been home for four days wish they would just get rid of it altogether.

Mr Enternational
04-29-23, 15:50
The really nice thing about Migracion Colombia is that they're not a bunch of cunts like the TSA Nazis. Very human, very friendly,You are comparing barbers and florists. TSA (Transportation Security Admin) has nothing to do with immigration and Dirección Nacional de Inteligencia (Colombian immigration) has nothing to do with the security in the airport.

Nypher
04-30-23, 09:05
Well 5 days later I just received the checkmig email!Crazy they only give a 72 hour window to fill out the form but email the confirmation 5 days later that's required to be visually seen by a gate agent before boarding by the departing country.

I hope others paid attention to your post and take it into account to use the print to PDF option or take a screen shot when on that confirmation page this way they can have a soft copy on their phone.

John Gault
04-30-23, 15:26
Same for me I got it this morning and have been home for four days wish they would just get rid of it altogether.At first I hated the Check Mig form but on further review I think it is a good thing as when you get to the Customs officer it is a quick stamp and no questions about the hotel you are staying at. I really think it speeds things up. As far as the return home Check Mig well that is a waste of time as nobody cares about it but just in case you fill it out anyway.

HombreIndio
05-01-23, 07:50
At first I hated the Check Mig form but on further review I think it is a good thing as when you get to the Customs officer it is a quick stamp and no questions about the hotel you are staying at. I really think it speeds things up. As far as the return home Check Mig well that is a waste of time as nobody cares about it but just in case you fill it out anyway.I just landed in Bogota an hour ago. I had my CheckMig from but the immigraccion officer still asked my hotels address and typed in manually in her computer.

HombreIndio
05-04-23, 06:36
I just landed in Bogota an hour ago. I had my CheckMig from but the immigraccion officer still asked my hotels address and typed in manually in her computer.So on Monday, I landed at Bogota Airport and went to a hotel to spend few hours to refresh and then took my next flight to Brazil. Today I flew back in to Bogota. If you are ever doing that, please make sure that you have your yellow vaccination done 10 days before your travel to Colombia. They are more strict about that than the check mig. They won't even let you board the plane if you don't have it if you are travelling from Brazil. If you are travelling from USA, you don't need that.

When I landed in Bogota, I had my Check Mig printed and in my pocket. I just decided to not to voluntarily present it to see if the immigration officer asks for it or not. He didn't. Doesn't mean that you will NOT be asked for it. I guess it all depends on the officer. The point I am trying to make is that I had two different experiences at Colombia immigration within the same week. So, if someone tells you that they didn't ask them for this or that, don't let that dictate you to omit anything. Just cover all the bases.

Mr Enternational
05-04-23, 15:00
I just landed in Bogota an hour ago. I had my CheckMig from but the immigraccion officer still asked my hotels address and typed in manually in her computer.The checkmig does not have a place to put where you are staying, so the immigration person always asks and types it in. I always just say Bogota and Marriott Hotel to keep it simple. You do not need a physical checkmig form. Immigration in Bogota does not ask to see that because it is in their computer, although the place you are starting from may ask for proof that you have done it.

Nypher
05-04-23, 21:43
The checkmig does not have a place to put where you are staying, so the immigration person always asks and types it in.I believe it does have a place for that information unless I'm mistaken. Everytime I've done it from the computer, on the last page, the last piece of information it asks for is where are you staying and a phone number IIRC. It's the most frustrating part to me because it does not allow users to paste in the information copied from another page and I have to manually type in that long ass address. Maybe it's different when using the mobile app? I've never used it but I recall others said they have.

BayBoy
05-04-23, 22:44
I'm flying to Colombia next week. I know Copa Airlines in San Francisco is going to ask to see my CheckMig form before I can get on the plane. Its happened everytime before. BUT when I get to Cali I've never been asked for the CheckMig form by Colombian Customs. Go figure, maybe they have it in their computer system. Out.

Elvis 2008
05-05-23, 18:40
I'm flying to Colombia next week. I know Copa Airlines in San Francisco is going to ask to see my CheckMig form before I can get on the plane. Its happened everytime before. BUT when I get to Cali I've never been asked for the CheckMig form by Colombian Customs. Go figure, maybe they have it in their computer system. Out.Yeah, no one checked checkMIG when flying in or out of Colombia. I think the congestion has caused the government to stop asking for it and the immunization card. Lines had been crazy long, up to 2 hours. They have put in the biometric scanners for Colombians but the system crashed on my gal.

I flew out of Bogota and the line to leave was long but went quickly.

I flew into Medellin and an agent there asked for my phone number which was new. The standard questions of how long are you staying and where are you staying were asked.

I came into Medellin this time versus Cartagena. There was no agent in the foreigners line so I went in the Colombian line. Eventually, a second female agent came in. She looked through my passport and saw all the Colombia stamps and I think assumed I was a promiscuous monger versus having a GF so she sent me back to the foreigners line. LOL. Maybe it is best to pick out male customs agents if you are a monger flying into Medellin.

JustTK
05-07-23, 05:14
the last piece of information it asks for is where are you staying and a phone number..Its clearly just a box ticking exercise. They have no interest in chking anything. They don't ask for a confirmed reservation. Just type whatever is easiest. CL -XX, YY-ZZ. Bogota. The End.

Zeos1
05-07-23, 13:50
I'm flying to Colombia next week. I know Copa Airlines in San Francisco is going to ask to see my CheckMig form before I can get on the plane. Its happened everytime before. BUT when I get to Cali I've never been asked for the CheckMig form by Colombian Customs. Go figure, maybe they have it in their computer system. Out.Of course. That was its purpose, to have your information in advance on their computer system. And as such it will probably continue to be used.

Although a couple of months ago I flew in on Avianca and had forgotten all about it and nothing happened. Perhaps the check in counter in San Jose entered the information for me, but I don't remember that if it did happen.

Artisttyp
05-09-23, 01:24
https://nypost.com/2023/05/08/us-soldiers-drugged-kidnapped-by-colombia-crime-ring-led-by-man-nicknamed-harry-potter-doj-says/

Two US Soldiers kidnapped in Colombia. Interesting Story.

Just Incognito
05-10-23, 22:46
https://nypost.com/2023/05/08/us-soldiers-drugged-kidnapped-by-colombia-crime-ring-led-by-man-nicknamed-harry-potter-doj-says/

Two US Soldiers kidnapped in Colombia. Interesting Story.Maybe this is the next step to stop this stupidity:

https://apnews.com/article/colombia-united-states-soldiers-kidnapped-drugged-eaa1d46901bee3d838419d25194da6bd?fbclid=IwAR3Wh7do6dGkDa0hwrcO59y4TCWwz1d3zoI8cBEUd3NR5dwswia656dLbB4

Golfinho
05-10-23, 23:57
https://nypost.com/2023/05/08/us-soldiers-drugged-kidnapped-by-colombia-crime-ring-led-by-man-nicknamed-harry-potter-doj-says/

Two US Soldiers kidnapped in Colombia. Interesting Story.Two military enlistees out at a bar to "dance with local women" -- and the US government brings all its power to bear in three-year-long case culminating in multiple extraditions. Surely if your government went to all this expense to procure justice for military types, you can be sure they'd do the same for artist types in trouble who were just having a night out to dance with local women.

MaddTraveler
05-14-23, 20:12
Hello Gents,

If you're an expat or have long stays in Col can you help a bro out?

I'm planning to extend my stay for the first time, hoping past our initial 3 Months visa. Where do we go to get another Stamp for the additional 3 Months? I assume we don't return to the Airport for that. Any intel is much appreciated.

Fun Luvr
05-15-23, 02:50
Hello Gents,

If you're an expat or have long stays in Col can you help a bro out?

I'm planning to extend my stay for the first time, hoping past our initial 3 Months visa. Where do we go to get another Stamp for the additional 3 Months? I assume we don't return to the Airport for that. Any intel is much appreciated.This website has the information: https://en.casacol.co/2022/04/25/extend-colombian-tourist-visa/ or this one: https://www.theunconventionalroute.com/extend-colombia-tourist-visa/.

MaddTraveler
05-15-23, 18:32
This website has the information: https://en.casacol.co/2022/04/25/extend-colombian-tourist-visa/ or this one: https://www.theunconventionalroute.com/extend-colombia-tourist-visa/.Preciate you man. Thanks also for not saying I could use Google LOL. We all have those days and feel like info that's shared here is more valid and very direct.

6 months will allow me to rotate everywhere from mde to bucca, cte, Cali, etc.

Carrib
05-16-23, 03:08
I wanted to post some dining options in MDE I experienced this past trip.

I went to the following.

OCI. MDE.

Carmen.

Colossal.

I cannot say enough about the above three and Colossal, up in the mountains, has one of the best views of Medellin, not cheap but relatively inexpensive by US standards, food at all three places was spectacular. I also went to a few local restaurants in Laureles, recommended by a local friend.

Here are three more I didn't get to.

Mamasita Medallo.

Alambique.

Herbário

I plan to visit them next time.

LatinaLover#1
05-16-23, 03:36
https://nypost.com/2023/05/08/us-soldiers-drugged-kidnapped-by-colombia-crime-ring-led-by-man-nicknamed-harry-potter-doj-says/

Two US Soldiers kidnapped in Colombia. Interesting Story.I have been trying to alert newbees to Colombia of the dangers in Colombia, specifically Bogota. Zona T is not a quote, unquote a dangerous part of the city. BULLSHIT! Bogota is very dangerous and can happen in a flash. SF, Soacha Bosa, even Chico Norte etc. Sure it a better possibility in SF or in the south but it happens anywhere and everywhere and has gotten more dangerous after Covid and the uninterrupted influx of desperate Venezuelans. I recently had dinner with a good Peruvian friend of mine. I always stayed in the Miraflores section of Lima and could walk anywhere, alone at any time and rarely had any reports of problems. However my friend told me the area is no longer as safe as it once was, he cited the main cause was desperate Venezuelans. Stay alert, everywhere, trust no one, and stay safe.

Cursnoop
05-16-23, 17:28
I have been trying to alert newbees to Colombia of the dangers in Colombia, specifically Bogota. Zona T is not a quote, unquote a dangerous part of the city. BULLSHIT! Bogota is very dangerous and can happen in a flash. SF, Soacha Bosa, even Chico Norte etc. Sure it a better possibility in SF or in the south but it happens anywhere and everywhere and has gotten more dangerous after Covid and the uninterrupted influx of desperate Venezuelans. I recently had dinner with a good Peruvian friend of mine. I always stayed in the Miraflores section of Lima and could walk anywhere, alone at any time and rarely had any reports of problems. However my friend told me the area is no longer as safe as it once was, he cited the main cause was desperate Venezuelans. Stay alert, everywhere, trust no one, and stay safe.Everywhere where its touristy and expensive there is danger also. I read the article. They were drugged using girls. That's why I tell my friends everywhere. If you are not pulling up girls easy in your hometown you probably will not down there only if they want to take advantage of you.

Secksee1
05-16-23, 18:19
I wanted to post some dining options in MDE I experienced this past trip.

I went to the following.

OCI. MDE.

Carmen.

Colossal.

I cannot say enough about the above three and Colossal, up in the mountains, has one of the best views of Medellin, not cheap but relatively inexpensive by US standards, food at all three places was spectacular. I also went to a few local restaurants in Laureles, recommended by a local friend.

Here are three more I didn't get to.

Mamasita Medallo.

Alambique.

Herbrio

I plan to visit them next time.I am not a huge fan of Colombian food but I love the food in Colombia. Since the massive increase in tourism, Colombia is increasing their food offerings.

As you mentioned, OCI. MDE and Carmen are fantastic. I love Herbario, Don Diablo, La Chagra, El Cielo, Olivia 10 b, Breggs (for breakfast sandwiches), Pergamino coffee, Pizzaiolo, NAZCAL Pollo Peruano al Carbóand, and some others outside of El Poblado.

TooDirty
05-16-23, 20:40
Surely if your government went to all this expense to procure justice for military types, you can be sure they'd do the same for artist types in trouble who were just having a night out to dance with local women.It's just that hard finding guys who want to serve in the military under the current commander in chief. The Navy is now trying to draw recruits with a drag queen. LMAO.

ChuchoLoco
05-17-23, 14:33
It's just that hard finding guys who want to serve in the military under the current commander in chief. The Navy is now trying to draw recruits with a drag queen. LMAO.Yep and her / his name is George Santos, a Republican Congressman / woman. Are you still laughing?

DownLow123
05-17-23, 16:10
Interested with opinions of the pros and cons of living in Medellin, full time. Hope to hear from some full timers on the board as well.

Pros: Abundant sex, open minded people (when compared with the usa), culture, lax laws, usd goes a long ways in Colombia.

Cons: Scoping problem, free for all traffic, food, lack of friends (at first).

DWorldTravel69
05-18-23, 01:06
Hi,

So the us State department just issued a travel alert to.

Colombia citing increased crime, etc.

If you are on the ground or have been there for whole, can you share your experience?

Is the crime and riots really getting serious that one should reconsider traveling there?

I'd appreciate any intel.

Cheers.

JohnnyWalker55
05-18-23, 15:24
Hi,

So the us State department just issued a travel alert to.

Colombia citing increased crime, etc.

If you are on the ground or have been there for whole, can you share your experience?

Is the crime and riots really getting serious that one should reconsider traveling there?

I'd appreciate any intel..Yes, it is extremely unsafe here. My member is at risk of falling off from too bagging too many vennies. I recommend not to come.

JjBee62
05-18-23, 18:00
Hi,

So the us State department just issued a travel alert to.

Colombia citing increased crime, etc.

If you are on the ground or have been there for whole, can you share your experience?

Is the crime and riots really getting serious that one should reconsider traveling there?

I'd appreciate any intel.

Cheers.The US has had a travel alert for Colombia for at least 9 years for the same reason.

LatinaLover#1
05-19-23, 02:23
I wouldn't let it stop me. I'll be back in Bogota again this Sunday night I Have a serious girlfriend for the last 4 years and I have a handful of numbers of all stars I have seen for years if I need a diversion while she's at class, so I'm good. I wouldn't worry so much inside Casas, and massage places. Being in the street and the transmilenio can be a problem, don't take any buses, especially the Blue ones. Be extremely vigilante in places like SF and Candeleria. And as stated many many times on here, don't leave your drink, don't trust the girls, just use your common sense. Be safe and have fun.


Hi,



So the us State department just issued a travel alert to.

Colombia citing increased crime, etc.

If you are on the ground or have been there for whole, can you share your experience?

Is the crime and riots really getting serious that one should reconsider traveling there?

I'd appreciate any intel.

Cheers.

XXL
05-19-23, 03:13
I've been a lurker on this thread these last few weeks, not having set foot in Colombia for over 20 years.

From what I read, Medellin or Bogota are less safe than, say, Sao Paulo. I see reports of ATMs not giving the money, Uber scams, SWs pulling knives on mongers, girls drugging mongers.

Makes me think twice about wanting to settle in Colombia now in spite of the fond memories I have of Cali in the days of the Cali cartel.

Questner
05-19-23, 03:25
I've been a lurker on this thread these last few weeks, not having set foot in Colombia for over 20 years.

From what I read, Medellin or Bogota are less safe than, say, Sao Paulo. I see reports of ATMs not giving the money, Uber scams, SWs pulling knives on mongers, girls drugging mongers.

Makes me think twice about wanting to settle in Colombia now in spite of the fond memories I have of Cali in the days of the Cali cartel.Today Meddy is much safer than Bogota, and Cartagena is the safest of all major touristy cities. Cali is like Swiss cheese, too many areas are a no go. Won't advise on settling in Colombia.

Interesting data on how much police makes:

Oficiales:

General: $22.340. 377,18.

Mayor general: $16.734. 426,78.

Brigadier general: $14.980. 927,46.

Coronel: $11.571. 990,09.

Teniente coronel: $4. 232.131,70.

Mayor: $3. 292.776,00.

Capitáand: $2. 709.810,00.

Teniente: $2. 367.072,00.

Subteniente: $2. 092.780,00.

Suboficiales:

Sargento mayor: $2. 354.907,00.

Sargento primero: $2. 331.920,75.

Sargento viceprimero: $1. 831.383,00.

Sargento segundo: $1. 673.430,00.

Cabo primero: $1. 547.877,00.

Cabo segundo: $1. 500.506,00.

Nivel Ejecutivo:

Comisario: $3. 817.320,00.

Subcomisario: $3. 241.253,00.

Intendente jefe: $3. 085.730,00.

Intendente: $2. 929.129,00.

Subintendente: $2. 301.330,00.

Patrullero: $1. 835.072,00.

Investigador: $1. 835.072,00.

Carabinero: $1. 835.072,00.

Fun Luvr
05-19-23, 15:39
From what I read, Medellin or Bogota are less safe than, say, Sao Paulo. I see reports of ATMs not giving the money, Uber scams, SWs pulling knives on mongers, girls drugging mongersI have been visiting Colombia multiple times each year since 2010. The last two years, I've been there close to 180 days each year. I've used the ATM's hundreds of times. Only one time did I not receive money from the ATM when money was taken from my bank account. That was obviously a malfunction in the ATM because the money was put back into my account shortly after with no action on my part. I have used the ATM's of various banks, but lately almost exclusively Davivienda. I haven't had any problem with Uber or DiDi. A few times I've had problems with regular taxis I've hailed on the streets, mostly near Parque Lleras. The knives and drugging problems happen in almost all major cities around the world. Maybe I've been lucky, but in more than 50 trips, I haven't encountered either problem.

If I was ready to re-locate to another country, it would be Colombia.

World Travel 69
05-19-23, 16:11
There will most likely be a confusion with you using a handle almost the same as mine.

Of which I have been using for around 20 years.

Please change your handle!

WT69.


Hi,

So the us State department just issued a travel alert to.

Colombia citing increased crime, etc.

If you are on the ground or have been there for whole, can you share your experience?

Is the crime and riots really getting serious that one should reconsider traveling there?

I'd appreciate any intel.

Cheers.

SankarShetty
05-19-23, 16:41
There will most likely be a confusion with you using a handle almost the same as mine.

Of which I have been using for around 20 years.

Please change your handle!

WT69.Someone actually copied your name. Until your post I had assumed that was actually you WT69!

Looks like you gave some fanboys!

Combo
05-20-23, 01:17
I've been a lurker on this thread these last few weeks, not having set foot in Colombia for over 20 years.

From what I read, Medellin or Bogota are less safe than, say, Sao Paulo. I see reports of ATMs not giving the money, Uber scams, SWs pulling knives on mongers, girls drugging mongers.

Makes me think twice about wanting to settle in Colombia now in spite of the fond memories I have of Cali in the days of the Cali cartel.Latin America in general is quite dangerous. And Brasil and Colombia aren't the first places a safety-focused traveler would visit. Taking common sense precautions (discussed on here ad nauseum) minimizes the risk, but it's still there.

Lefeu
05-20-23, 01:59
...If I was ready to re-locate to another country, it would be Colombia.The same here. I have taken 30+ trips over the past 10 years with no major incident. However,

If I were to decide to set up shop outside the US, Thailand would be my #1 destination.

Sangnyc21
05-20-23, 04:35
I've been a lurker on this thread these last few weeks, not having set foot in Colombia for over 20 years.

From what I read, Medellin or Bogota are less safe than, say, Sao Paulo. I see reports of ATMs not giving the money, Uber scams, SWs pulling knives on mongers, girls drugging mongers.

Makes me think twice about wanting to settle in Colombia now in spite of the fond memories I have of Cali in the days of the Cali cartel.I think medellin is less safe now. But Bogota I think is still ok.

I have seen multiple YT vids and read a few article that medellin aren't so welcoming to gringo tourists anymore.

Personally I have noticed it as well.

I never in 6 years had an officer at migracióand question me so much with a mean look. Usually they're all smiles and stamp and I pass. Even though I was with my Colombian GF. But she had to use the other line since she has that speed pass where the glass door just opens when she scans her passport.

Zeos1
05-20-23, 06:04
Today Meddy is much safer than Bogota, and Cartagena is the safest of all major touristy cities. Cali is like Swiss cheese, too many areas are a no go. Won't advise on settling in Colombia.I'm assuming you got this from some official source. But I would have guessed the opposite. Cartagena being the most dangerous, Medellin next, and Bogota the safest. At least on a per capita basis. Of course on a total numbers basis Bogota will always be the worst as it is by far the biggest.

And crime stats versus crimes against tourists are very different things I think. Medellin has had, what seems to be, a crime spree against tourists with around 30 foreign visitors murdered in a year, and I don't hear that about Bogota or Cartagena. But maybe it is not getting the same publicity. Who knows.

And the scopolamine druggings are probably similar in all 3, but Medellin seems to get the most publicity about it. And again, we hear about deaths of foreigners from drugging, but not much about total cases in the country, which is a whole different level. I recall numbers in the 10's of thousands for scopolamine overdoses, but not many result in death.

Anyway, with all of these differences in numbers and not having much of a relative scale to measure against, it is hard to know how dangerous various cities are, or the country for that matter.

TooDirty
05-20-23, 15:17
However, If I were to decide to set up shop outside the US, Thailand would be my #1 destination.Agreed, although I love the weather in Bogota, and the pussy is cheaper and more attractive to me in Colombia.

DWorldTravel69
05-20-23, 15:38
Hi, yes I see how it could be a problem.

But how do I change it? I don't see a way to do that in the profile.

Do I need to create another account?


There will most likely be a confusion with you using a handle almost the same as mine.

Of which I have been using for around 20 years.

Please change your handle!

WT69.

World Travel 69
05-20-23, 16:49
Above on the line at the top.

Or PM Admin.


Hi, yes I see how it could be a problem.

But how do I change it? I don't see a way to do that in the profile.

Do I need to create another account?

JohnnyWalker55
05-21-23, 10:34
I think medellin is less safe now. But Bogota I think is still ok.

I have seen multiple YT vids and read a few article that medellin aren't so welcoming to gringo tourists anymore.

Personally I have noticed it as well.

I never in 6 years had an officer at migraciand question me so much with a mean look. Usually they're all smiles and stamp and I pass. Even though I was with my Colombian GF. But she had to use the other line since she has that speed pass where the glass door just opens when she scans her passport.Medellin post pandemic is a completely different place.

Girls are extremely seasoned, being a gringo get's an eyeroll most of the time. Casas especially, even though still good service.

Medellin is the new hotspot for digital nomads, passport bros, retirees, and bachelor parties. Just type "medellin gringo" into the tiktok or twitter search bar, it is absolutely mainstream now.

For those new mongers headed there, they will absolutely be taken for a spin with the gringo tax. Poblado is pretty much an overpriced disney land with sharks (prepagos, taxistas, restaurants) looking to take advantage of the newbie. Laureles, envigado, sabaneta, are no longer local havens free from gringos.

I will say, objectively, that MDE is likely head and shoulders above whatever sex prison the monger is coming from in the us of a. But for the seasoned LATAM monger, it is no longer worth it.

For this reason, I am staying in Various second tier colombian cities ATM, using my full 180 calendar days.

Honestly, don't even want to write reports for these places like I have for MDE, as who knows how many prospective newbie monger eyes see this forum (likely lots).

Kind of a the*ck move, but it is what it is!

Side note: spending over 1000+ days in Colombia, as a centro rat, I have never even had an inkling of trouble RE violence. Anywhere. I am italian, so don't stand out. YMMV as always.

Mr Enternational
05-21-23, 16:53
Medellin post pandemic is a completely different place. For those new mongers headed there, they will absolutely be taken for a spin with the gringo tax.Funny how guys thought the prices would fall after the pandemic. Those are the guys that did not know Latin America very well, if at all.

Nounce
05-21-23, 19:48
...
Honestly, don't even want to write reports for these places like I have for MDE, as who knows how many prospective newbie monger eyes see this forum (likely lots).

Kind of a the*ck move, but it is what it is!
....It's not lack of information. Some newbies simply don't negotiate even when they know what the price should be and were happy about it. Just reading the reports, one can see the increment changes. I also come to the conclusion that less info is better for mongers that spend a lot of time here.

Nypher
05-22-23, 17:45
I just checked the US Embassy website and it says that in order for me to bring my girl from Medellin to the US for a road trip with me for a few weeks that she needs a tourist visa. To get this visa she needs an interview in Bogota. The site says there is a 696 day waiting period for this interview!

Whats the trick? It can't really take 2 years for me to get her a visa so she can travel to the US with me for a couple of weeks, could it?

Who knows the scoop on how to get a girl with a Colombia passport a visa so I can fly her to the USA with me for 2-3 weeks.

I am a US citizen with a US Passport-but I live outside the USA. The plan is for her to come to where I live and then fly with me to the states for 2-3 weeks. We met on Seeking and have been hanging out quite a bit over the last 1. 5 years. We have a cool vibe together and have done small trips already, so I don't need lectures about having a girl for 2-3 weeks or traveling with a chica. I am only seeking information on how I get her a visa to visit the USA with me for a couple of weeks-hopefully not 2 years from now. LOL.

Anyone know anything about getting my girl a visa to visit the USA?

Thanks!How did this turn out? Did they Bribe someone to get an earlier appointment?

One of my chicas just applied for a Visa and they gave her an appointment for December 2025! WTF?!

Then she said if she pay someone 400 mil they can move the appointment up sooner. SMH.

Carrib
05-23-23, 00:48
Medellin post pandemic is a completely different place.

Girls are extremely seasoned, being a gringo get's an eyeroll most of the time. Casas especially, even though still good service.

Medellin is the new hotspot for digital nomads, passport bros, retirees, and bachelor parties. Just type "medellin gringo" into the tiktok or twitter search bar, it is absolutely mainstream now.

I will say, objectively, that MDE is likely head and shoulders above whatever sex prison the monger is coming from in the us of a. But for the seasoned LATAM monger, it is no longer worth it.

For this reason, I am staying in Various second tier colombian cities ATM, using my full 180 calendar days.

Honestly, don't even want to write reports for these places like I have for MDE, as who knows how many prospective newbie monger eyes see this forum (likely lots).

Kind of a the*ck move, but it is what it is!

Side note: spending over 1000+ days in Colombia, as a centro rat, I have never even had an inkling of trouble RE violence. Anywhere. I am italian, so don't stand out. YMMV as always.I couldn't agree with you more and not upset at you keeping info to yourself. I was there when Rio fell and took my ass to Asia, after a 3 year hiatus I decided to try out Colombia and attempted to share info and engage other members here, I have mostly been ridiculed. I guess it is the past experience of watching Brazil go down, felt a bit of an obligation to rally fellow members here to stem the tide, it ain't working.

ATMs-

My buddy who now lives in Medellin, tried to withdraw 800K pesos from a Davivienda bank ATM, it did not give him the money. He tried to resolve it w/the bank manager, no one was willing to help. He hired an attorney and is going thru the legal process. It’s been 2 months now.

Same buddy purchased a box of 25 cigars at HIGH coffee next to la cava del puro, the box was SEALED but when he opened them it was only 17 cigars in the box, 8 was missing, when he confronted them, they said they gave him the wrong box.

Mr Enternational
05-23-23, 03:53
One of my chicas just applied for a Visa and they gave her an appointment for December 2025! WTF?!

Then she said if she pay someone 400 mil they can move the appointment up sooner. SMH.That is surely a scam. Could a chick give ME money in order to meet up with you at a time when you are busy? There is nobody contolling the embassy's appointment book except the embassy. One of my chicks in Brazil fell for a similar scam. The people were supposed to ensure that she could get a visa. She handed over the money and all she got was taken for $80 or so. All of the shit you can do yourself. Nobody has any more advantage of getting something for you than you have for doing it yourself. Unfortunately people that want to visit or emigrate do not understand this and throw a lot of money away on lawyers, agencies, and scams.

Even here in Thailand there are agencies that will get you a driver's license or do the owner transfer on your vehicle for $50. You can go to the DMV youself and get a drivers license for $6 or you can go down there and do your own transfer for $3. Still, business for these folks is booming due to some people being lazy and others being ignorant.

JohnnieCash
05-23-23, 16:49
I was there when Rio fell... ...past experience of watching Brazil go downRio fell? What's the story?

Nypher
05-23-23, 20:17
That is surely a scam. Could a chick give ME money in order to meet up with you at a time when you are busy? There is nobody contolling the embassy's appointment book except the embassy. One of my chicks in Brazil fell for a similar scam. The people were supposed to ensure that she could get a visa. She handed over the money and all she got was taken for $80 or so. All of the shit you can do yourself. Nobody has any more advantage of getting something for you than you have for doing it yourself. Unfortunately people that want to visit or emigrate do not understand this and throw a lot of money away on lawyers, agencies, and scams.

Even here in Thailand there are agencies that will get you a driver's license or do the owner transfer on your vehicle for $50. You can go to the DMV youself and get a drivers license for $6 or you can go down there and do your own transfer for $3. Still, business for these folks is booming due to some people being lazy and others being ignorant.I suspect that's what's happening, she's going through a third party. I told her don't pay shit and when she checked the application status today both appointments moved up to September 2024. Well it's better than 2025 I guess LOL!

SankarShetty
05-25-23, 14:05
How did this turn out? Did they Bribe someone to get an earlier appointment?

One of my chicas just applied for a Visa and they gave her an appointment for December 2025! WTF?!

Then she said if she pay someone 400 mil they can move the appointment up sooner. SMH.DS160 is the form anyone has to use to get appointment. There are a lot of people who can book you a earlier date in embassies after you pay them and give your application number.

They just keep checking the slots more frequently. I have used a couple of guys in the past, to move appointments in India to earlier dates though. I did confirm they check slots of other embassies too.

LatinaLover#1
06-02-23, 04:52
Rio fell? What's the story?Post Help!

LatinaLover#1
06-02-23, 05:00
Medellin post pandemic is a completely different place.

Girls are extremely seasoned, being a gringo get's an eyeroll most of the time. Casas especially, even though still good service.

Medellin is the new hotspot for digital nomads, passport bros, retirees, and bachelor parties. Just type "medellin gringo" into the tiktok or twitter search bar, it is absolutely mainstream now.

For those new mongers headed there, they will absolutely be taken for a spin with the gringo tax. Poblado is pretty much an overpriced disney land with sharks (prepagos, taxistas, restaurants) looking to take advantage of the newbie. Laureles, envigado, sabaneta, are no longer local havens free from gringos.

I will say, objectively, that MDE is likely head and shoulders above whatever sex prison the monger is coming from in the us of a. But for the seasoned LATAM monger, it is no longer worth it.

For this reason, I am staying in Various second tier colombian cities ATM, using my full 180 calendar days.

Honestly, don't even want to write reports for these places like I have for MDE, as who knows how many prospective newbie monger eyes see this forum (likely lots).

Kind of a the*ck move, but it is what it is!

Side note: spending over 1000+ days in Colombia, as a centro rat, I have never even had an inkling of trouble RE violence. Anywhere. I am italian, so don't stand out. YMMV as always.Almost every Minister in Colombia appointed by Petro, the new President has been a socialist and / or past Farc people. AND they are not American friendly. As they say the team takes on the personality of the manager. Don't expect being American is a benifit anymore.

Sangnyc21
06-02-23, 05:45
Medellin is literally an open *****house right now.

But here's the thing. All the new mde mongers are going to go to places like gustos lleras park and la Isla and pay 2-300 usd for a covered blow job for an hour and realize it's simply not worth it.

Some vets will lose their regular chicas once they demand more $$ for shittier service.

They'll be more druggings and big incidents with gringos. When you combine that with even gringos themselves trying to rip off other gringos by charging so much to stay at their airbnbs it'll be a matter of time before it goes seriously downhill.

At some point when you factor in traveling lodging food and girls you realize now you can afford the top notch girls in the states now LOL.

I just came back from a week long trip to Bogota and found a new home.

Did everything from Sante Fe to Lidos and banged 7 chicks who all got a nice facial or CIM and had a blast with each one of them. Some I spent a lot some I got a bargain.

But the girls are still hot and are friendlier. Migracióand was a breeze and my Airbnb was very reasonably priced. And much more options for great food.

So why the fuck would I go back to medellin for the time being.

The paisas have too big of an ego and are getting more stuck up than the western girls.

Not worth it.

It'll take another year or so but I think eventually it'll die down. And when it does vets will come back.

Mr Enternational
06-02-23, 09:15
Channel I am subscribed to talks a bit about scopolamine.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L6sY5sJNnhg

LatinaLover#1
06-02-23, 16:51
Medellin is literally an open *****house right now.

But here's the thing. All the new mde mongers are going to go to places like gustos lleras park and la Isla and pay 2-300 usd for a covered blow job for an hour and realize it's simply not worth it.

Some vets will lose their regular chicas once they demand more $$ for shittier service.

They'll be more druggings and big incidents with gringos. When you combine that with even gringos themselves trying to rip off other gringos by charging so much to stay at their airbnbs it'll be a matter of time before it goes seriously downhill.

At some point when you factor in traveling lodging food and girls you realize now you can afford the top notch girls in the states now LOL.

I just came back from a week long trip to Bogota and found a new home.

Did everything from Sante Fe to Lidos and banged 7 chicks who all got a nice facial or CIM and had a blast with each one of them. Some I spent a lot some I got a bargain.

But the girls are still hot and are friendlier. Migraciand was a breeze and my Airbnb was very reasonably priced. And much more options for great food.

So why the fuck would I go back to medellin for the time being.

The paisas have too big of an ego and are getting more stuck up than the western girls.

Not worth it.

It'll take another year or so but I think eventually it'll die down. And when it does vets will come back.Bogota has been my go to for some 10 years now, Never was a fan of Medellin because of too many gringos, too many prepagos who speak English. Medellin was looking more like Miami everyday, As you stated above it doesn't take too long for neophyte gringos to upset the apple cart by over paying. So PLEASE leave them in Medellin, don't encourage them to come to Bogota. Tell them NO ONE speaks English, and Bogota is extremely dangerous so stay away. Although Bogota is approaching 10 million people it may take a long time to ruin a great place to monger, also the weather sucks, cold and rains all the time Don't come.

JustTK
06-02-23, 19:39
Petro, the new President...AND they are not American friendly. On the contrary. I think the govt has taken strong steps to be more America friendly. It has strengthened ties w practically all Latin countries. Pretty soon they'll be joining BRICS.

Combo
06-02-23, 22:45
Medellin is literally an open *****house right now.

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Some vets will lose their regular chicas once they demand more $$ for shittier service.

They'll be more druggings and big incidents with gringos. When you combine that with even gringos themselves trying to rip off other gringos by charging so much to stay at their airbnbs it'll be a matter of time before it goes seriously downhill.

At some point when you factor in traveling lodging food and girls you realize now you can afford the top notch girls in the states now LOL.

I just came back from a week long trip to Bogota and found a new home.

Did everything from Sante Fe to Lidos and banged 7 chicks who all got a nice facial or CIM and had a blast with each one of them. Some I spent a lot some I got a bargain.

But the girls are still hot and are friendlier. Migraciand was a breeze and my Airbnb was very reasonably priced. And much more options for great food.

So why the fuck would I go back to medellin for the time being.

The paisas have too big of an ego and are getting more stuck up than the western girls.

Not worth it.

It'll take another year or so but I think eventually it'll die down. And when it does vets will come back.Bogota is great for women, arguably better than MDE. It's, as another poster called it, "Medellin's big brother. " However Medellin has way better weather and is just a more pleasant city to spend time in.

Sangnyc21
06-02-23, 23:00
Bogota is great for women, arguably better than MDE. It's, as another poster called it, "Medellin's big brother. " However Medellin has way better weather and is just a more pleasant city to spend time in.Yes medellin WAS more pleasant than Bogota. But now it's gringoland. And everyone knows why majority or gringos go there.

The passport bros literally took something that's meant to be discreet which is the hobby of mongering and exposed it to everyone in their own countries.

The women here in the states know it's all about prostitutes. So now Mde has become unbearable.

I do think it'll go back to somewhat normal status cause these idiots priced themselves out of the game lmao.

But as far as experiences for now Bogota is the place to be.

Also many more options for great food.

And that loudness and rudeness would never be tolerated in Bogota.

Mr Enternational
06-03-23, 01:56
And that loudness and rudeness would never be tolerated in Bogota.You do not think the same was said for Sosua, Cartagena, and Medellin? Hold on to your hat.

Sangnyc21
06-03-23, 03:50
You do not think the same was said for Sosua, Cartagena, and Medellin? Hold on to your hat.Bogota has their zones where you can party and have fun.

But the cities you mentioned is literally party towns.

I've noticed in Bogota people go out and party then they don't bring it back to their homes. Unlike cart and mde where you can bring them back to specifically designed airbnb rentals for partying and loud noise.

Bogota is mostly buildings and residential.

You won't get away with trying to enter classy establishments in basketball shorts in Bogota.

LatinaLover#1
06-03-23, 11:02
On the contrary. I think the govt has taken strong steps to be more America friendly. It has strengthened ties w practically all Latin countries. Pretty soon they'll be joining BRICS.I'm not getting your thinking. First of all Petro, is a Socialist. The countries he has strengthened ties with in Latin America are all Socialist / Communist leaning countries. He has reached out to Cuba, Venezuela, China, etc. And the BRIC that you mentioned is Brazil, Russia, India and China two are hardly pro American. And the other 2 have been making very unfriendly statements towards the USA Under Petro Colombia will continue to seduce the nations unfriendly to the USA Research all the ministers he has installed thru out the country, you will see all have ties to FARC who hate the States because of the USA Involvement and support of the past government the FARC has dedicated itself to overthrow. We need to take a wait and see attitude but I'd put my money with anti USA sentiment to continue growing by Petros policies while he continues to cozy up to nations unfriendly to the USA.

TjBrazil
06-03-23, 15:46
Medellin at this point is where on a girls 18th birthday they get a box of condoms some lube and are told get to work ho.

JustTK
06-03-23, 16:09
I'm not getting your thinking. First of all Petro, is a Socialist. The countries he has strengthened ties with in Latin America are all Socialist / Communist leaning countries. He has reached out to Cuba, Venezuela, China, etc. We need to take a wait and see attitude but I'd put my money with anti USA sentiment to continue growing by Petros policies while he continues to cozy up to nations unfriendly to the USA.I think you are confusing the USA with America. Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Chile, etc are all American countries w left-leaning governments. His governement is making stronger ties with these countries, hence he is being very America-friendly.

JjBee62
06-04-23, 10:17
Medellin at this point is where on a girls 18th birthday they get a box of condoms some lube and are told get to work ho.I guess that explains why they all get pregnant at 14 or 15. They don't get the condoms until 18, but they damn sure aren't waiting for 18 to start working.

LatinaLover#1
06-05-23, 18:50
From a high of 5000 towards the end of Trumps presidency, we are now at 42 and change, with the continuing direction down. The monetary policy by the Obiden administration will have us all rethinking our travel plans. Playing in our favorite Colombian paradise is now about 20% higher than it was 2 years ago. Couple that with the highest Flight prices in recent memory and our hobby has become prohibitively more expensive. Let's hope the trend reverses soon. But I wouldn't bet on it!

The Cane
06-05-23, 18:56
I guess that explains why they all get pregnant at 14 or 15. They don't get the condoms until 18, but they damn sure aren't waiting for 18 to start working.Celebration of their "quinceanos" (15th birthday) may as well be the beginning of open season on a pregnancy with their first kid!

John Clayton
06-05-23, 19:41
From a high of 5000 towards the end of Trumps presidency, we are now at 42 and change, with the continuing direction down. The monetary policy by the Obiden administration ...

The low of the COP of 5111/ USD was in November 22, over eight months into the Biden presidency ...your point was? Exchange rates have little to do with who the president is, or the current fiscal policy -- it's more about the perceived strength of an economy. Most analysts attribute the recent weakening of the dollar to the fear of default (which was 100% due to the hostage taking kooks in the Republican party) over the debt ceiling. Now that the crisis is temporarily averted, most analysts believe that the dollar will strengthen somewhat; although, the stupid debt ceiling stunt caused long term damage to the perceived value of the dollar and undoubtedly caused you to lose thousands of pesos of valuable whoring money. Want your hobby money to go further on foreign trips? ...vote the Republicans out of power.

JustTK
06-05-23, 19:42
From a high of 5000 towards the end of Trumps presidency, we are now at 42 and change, with the continuing direction down. The monetary policy by the Obiden administration will have us all rethinking our travel plans. Playing in our favorite Colombian paradise is now about 20% higher than it was 2 years ago. Let's hope the trend reverses soon. Speak for urself. I love it. Many folks are complaining that too many tourists are coming, so this is great news for them. As for me, there is less demand in hotels and on the streets, so it's good for me too. Plus all those tourists that couldn't give a FK what the USD rate does, they won't care either, and will benefit from the lower prices.

Trim1
06-05-23, 20:21
I think you are confusing the USA with America. Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Chile, etc are all American countries w left-leaning governments. His governement is making stronger ties with these countries, hence he is being very America-friendly.Did you grow up in Latin America? For people who grew up in Latin America (also people who grew up in Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, Greece, and some other countries), America is the name of a continent. For people who grew in English-speaking countries (also people who grew up in China, India, and some other countries), North America and South America are regarded as separate continents. English-speakers refer to the "Americas" when we want to group North America and South America together. For us, "America" refers to the United States of America.

See.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continente

Psychman
06-05-23, 22:41
From a high of 5000 towards the end of Trumps presidency, we are now at 42 and change, with the continuing direction down. The monetary policy by the Obiden administration will have us all rethinking our travel plans. Playing in our favorite Colombian paradise is now about 20% higher than it was 2 years ago. Couple that with the highest Flight prices in recent memory and our hobby has become prohibitively more expensive. Let's hope the trend reverses soon. But I wouldn't bet on it!Funny how some of your Trumpets try to have it both ways. You screamed about the "socialist" President of Colombia, and many of you predicted that the dollar would soon be 7000 to 1 due to him ruining the economy of Colombia. Then, when things move in the opposite direction, you blame Biden.

JjBee62
06-05-23, 23:13
From a high of 5000 towards the end of Trumps presidency, we are now at 42 and change, with the continuing direction down. The monetary policy by the Obiden administration will have us all rethinking our travel plans. Playing in our favorite Colombian paradise is now about 20% higher than it was 2 years ago. Couple that with the highest Flight prices in recent memory and our hobby has become prohibitively more expensive. Let's hope the trend reverses soon. But I wouldn't bet on it!Just for shits and giggles I looked a few things up.

Exchange rate for USD to Euro is about the same as it was late 2020. Same when compared to the GBP. There have been ups and downs, but the current rate is the same under Biden as under Trump.

However, when looking at COP, it was around 3950 late 2020 and is 4296 today. You're still better off at this point than you were 3 years ago, when it comes to spending money in Colombia.

Airline ticket prices spike every summer. The trick is to either travel off-season, or start shopping tickets 3 months in advance.

JustTK
06-06-23, 00:57
Did you grow up in Latin America? English-speakers refer to the "Americas" when we want to group North America and South America together. For us, "America" refers to the United States of America.
Nope, not for me. USA is part of the Americas and is just as American, but no more so, than any other country in the Americas (North and South American). I. e. A Venezuelan is as American as a USAn. I find it very egoistic of some USAns to think of themselves as THE Amercians. Bit like some of the English that tihnk Britian is England.

Trim1
06-06-23, 01:17
Nope, not for me. USA is part of the Americas and is just as American, but no more so, than any other country in the Americas (North and South American). I. e. A Venezuelan is as American as a USAn. I find it very egoistic of some USAns to think of themselves as THE Amercians. Bit like some of the English that tihnk Britian is England.You didn't answer my question. Did you grow up in Latin America? Let me add another question: Am I correct in thinking that English is not your native language?

JustTK
06-06-23, 03:16
You didn't answer my question. Did you grow up in Latin America? Am I correct in thinking that English is not your native language?I answered your Q w the first word I wrote. Nope. My mother tongue is English, although if you ever heard my mother, you might wonder.

Trim1
06-06-23, 03:56
I answered your Q w the first word I wrote. Nope. My mother tongue is English, although if you ever heard my mother, you might wonder.OK, that wasn't clear to me because of the "not for me" that you wrote afterwards in the same sentence. It seemed to me that you were writing "Nope, not for me" in response to "For us, 'America' refers to the United States of America" and were ignoring my question about whether you grew up in Latin America. Your other sentences seemed to support that interpretation.

A clearer way to express what you wanted to say in English would have been to write, "nope, I didn't grow up in Latin America, but 'America' doesn't mean the United States of America for me. ".

In Spanish, I conform with the convention of using the six-continent combined-America model and would write "Venezuela es tan americana como Estados Unidos. " However, I use the seven-continent model in English. To express the same idea in natural-sounding English, I would write "Venezuela is as much a part of the Americas as the United States is a part of the Americas. ".

With "A Venezuelan is as American as a USAn," you are making up a word and writing something that would not sound natural to most native English speakers.

For me, "America" refers to the United States of America in English and "America" (with an accent over the e) refers to a continent in Spanish. If someone refers to an "American" in English, I would think that he is talking about someone from the United States. If someone refers to an "americano" in Spanish, I would consider the possibility that he is talking about someone from the continent of America, but I would also consider the possibility that he is talking about someone from the United States of America since I have sometimes seen the term used that way in Spanish despite the different continent model.

Would you say that I am egoistic in English but not in Spanish?

Mr Enternational
06-06-23, 04:57
In Spanish, I conform with the convention of using the six-continent combined-America model and would write "Venezuela es tan americana como Estados Unidos. " However, I use the seven-continent model in English. To express the same idea in natural-sounding English, I would write "Venezuela is as much a part of the Americas as the United States is a part of the Americas. ".One question though. Are you talking about the United States of America or LOS Estados Unidos Mexicanos?

LoneRangers
06-06-23, 08:15
Just for shits and giggles I looked a few things up.

Exchange rate for USD to Euro is about the same as it was late 2020. Same when compared to the GBP. There have been ups and downs, but the current rate is the same under Biden as under Trump.

However, when looking at COP, it was around 3950 late 2020 and is 4296 today. You're still better off at this point than you were 3 years ago, when it comes to spending money in Colombia.

Airline ticket prices spike every summer. The trick is to either travel off-season, or start shopping tickets 3 months in advance.If only he loved facts as much as he loves latinas.

JohnnyWalker55
06-06-23, 11:31
Nope, not for me. USA is part of the Americas and is just as American, but no more so, than any other country in the Americas (North and South American). I. e. A Venezuelan is as American as a USAn. I find it very egoistic of some USAns to think of themselves as THE Amercians. Bit like some of the English that tihnk Britian is England.You're being argumentative over semantics. Because you're bored maybe? You have some misplaced nationalist pride?

If you tell anyone in Colombia "soy americano", or "soy de america", 100% of them will infer that means the united states.

Nobody in south or central america refers to themselves as americano or "de america" besides the over-educated dweebs at univ. Of sao paolo that are also overly semantic. Because they have some gripe against the united states-centric global culture that everyone is subjected to, whether you like it or not. Get a grip, amigo.

JustTK
06-06-23, 14:49
A clearer way to express what you wanted to say...

I use the seven-continent model in English...

With "A Venezuelan is as American as a USAn," you are making up a word and writing something that would not sound natural to most native English speakers...

For me, "America" refers to the United States of America in English...

Would you say that I am egoistic in English but not in Spanish?I had no idea that language was prescriptive. You should write a book about it. Yes. And very lazy. I prefer if you use made up words like USAn.

The Cane
06-06-23, 16:33
You're being argumentative over semantics. Because you're bored maybe? You have some misplaced nationalist pride?

If you tell anyone in Colombia "soy americano", or "soy de america", 100% of them will infer that means the united states.

Nobody in south or central america refers to themselves as americano or "de america" besides the over-educated dweebs at univ. Of sao paolo that are also overly semantic. Because they have some gripe against the united states-centric global culture that everyone is subjected to, whether you like it or not. Get a grip, amigo.This is spot on true, not only within the Americas, but pretty much anywhere else in the world as well where "America" and being "American" is associated first and foremost with the United States. Not saying it's right, wrong, or indifferent. It just is (shrugs).

Trim1
06-06-23, 17:28
One question though. Are you talking about the United States of America or LOS Estados Unidos Mexicanos?Theoretically, "Estados Unidos" could refer to either the United States of America or Estados Unidos Mexicanos, but I'm sure you know just as well as I do that the generally accepted meaning of Estados Unidos is the former rather than the latter. So far, I have not met anyone who thinks that "Estados Unidos" (without "Mexicanos" following the two words) refers to Mexico or that an estadounidense is a person from Mexico.

I wrote Estados Unidos Mexicanos without "LOS" preceding the three words to follow the language of this article: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9xico.

For example, "Desde su conformacion como Estado federal, el nombre oficial del pais es Estados Unidos Mexicanos, aunque la Constitucion de 1824 usaba indistintamente las expresiones Nacion Mexicana why Estados Unidos Mexicanos. ".

I'm sure you also know that the generally accepted meaning of "America" in English-speaking countries is "the United States of America. " You've spent a lot of time in Latin America, so you probably already knew that "America" is the name of a continent for Latin Americans. Some people struggle with the idea that the word "America" can have different meanings in different parts of the world.

Trim1
06-06-23, 20:03
I had no idea that language was prescriptive. You should write a book about it. Yes. And very lazy. I prefer if you use made up words like USAn.What do you mean by "that language was prescriptive"? And what exactly are you referring to with "And very lazy"?

Also, where did you grow up?

JustTK
06-06-23, 22:07
You're being argumentative over semantics.

If you tell anyone in Colombia "soy americano", or "soy de america", 100% of them will infer that means the united states.
1. No, not at all. Poster said Petro's policies are anti-American. I said no, he is clearly cultivating better relationships w most American countries. Hence he is pro-American.

2. No doubt they would think your from USA bcos they would deduce from what you said that you can't speak Spanish.

JustTK
06-06-23, 23:09
What do you mean by "that language was prescriptive"? And what exactly are you referring to with "And very lazy"?

Also, where did you grow up?1. Prescriptive v descriptive. You must use words according to definitions v you are free to use words how you see fit.

2. Lazy. Too lazy to say your from the USA or your a USAn. It would be simpler and more for all if you simply said your Floridan, or conetticutian or whatever, instead of saying your from a continent.

I never hear europeans say theyre from europe or africans say theyre from africa.

3. Not relevant.

Trim1
06-07-23, 04:35
1. Prescriptive v descriptive. You must use words according to definitions v you are free to use words how you see fit.

2. Lazy. Too lazy to say your from the USA or your a USAn. It would be simpler and more for all if you simply said your Floridan, or conetticutian or whatever, instead of saying your from a continent.

I never hear europeans say theyre from europe or africans say theyre from africa.

3. Not relevant.1. You are free to use words as you see fit, however, if you use words in a different way than the people you interact with, there may be some communication difficulties.

2. "instead of saying your from a continent".

Are you saying that when someone says he is an American, he is saying that he is from the continent of America? In the seven-continent model that is used in English-speaking countries, there is no continent named America. There is a continent named America in the six-continent combined-America model that is mainly used in Romance language countries. Also, you should have written "you're" instead of "your. ".

"I never hear europeans say theyre from europe or africans say theyre from africa. ".

When someone from the United States of America says he is from America he is referring to the United States of America, not the continent of America in the six-continent combined-America. English-speaking countries use a different continent model.

As for saying "I'm a USAn" instead of "I'm an American," well, that is a word you made up. I wouldn't expect other people to use it. It doesn't have anything to do with laziness.

3. It is relevant. People who grew up in countries that use the seven-continent model generally use the word America to refer to the United States of America. People who grew up in countries that use the six-continent combined-America model tend to use the word America to refer to a continent instead and sometimes criticize the usage of the word America to refer to the United States of America. However, after I explain that that there is no continent named America in the seven-continent model, they usually have a better understanding of why the word has a different meaning for people from a different part of the world.

I think it is unlikely that you grew up in country where English is the primary language.

OldSchool318
06-07-23, 05:18
Been a hot minute since I've been down in Colombia and I heard weed is legal now. I recently asked the same question I'm the Thai section.

Do they have shops for it, and can you smoke in street or bars?

Also are there a bunch of chicas that like the good shit?

When I was there I brought gummies and a vape pen and the girls who liked it were really turned on by it.

Feel like it being legal maybe it opens up some more doors if the stigma is gone. In the CR I had a GF that hated it because she was brainwashed by the drug wars. I always feel like it would of done her some good.

Monger Longer
06-07-23, 12:25
1. You are free to use words as you see fit, however, if you use words in a different way than the people you interact with, there may be some communication difficulties.

2. "instead of saying your from a continent".

Are you saying that when someone says he is an American, he is saying that he is from the continent of America? In the seven-continent model that is used in English-speaking countries, there is no continent named America. There is a continent named America in the six-continent combined-America model that is mainly used in Romance language countries. Also, you should have written "you're" instead of "your. ".

"I never hear europeans say theyre from europe or africans say theyre from africa. ".

When someone from the United States of America says he is from America he is referring to the United States of America, not the continent of America in the six-continent combined-America. English-speaking countries use a different continent model.

As for saying "I'm a USAn" instead of "I'm an American," well, that is a word you made up. I wouldn't expect other people to use it. It doesn't have anything to do with laziness.

3. It is relevant. People who grew up in countries that use the seven-continent model generally use the word America to refer to the United States of America. People who grew up in countries that use the six-continent combined-America model tend to use the word America to refer to a continent instead and sometimes criticize the usage of the word America to refer to the United States of America. However, after I explain that that there is no continent named America in the seven-continent model, they usually have a better understanding of why the word has a different meaning for people from a different part of the world.

I think it is unlikely that you grew up in country where English is the primary language.Verbal diarrhea. What are you hoping to accomplish other than coming across as argumentative?

Trim1
06-07-23, 19:38
Verbal diarrhea. What are you hoping to accomplish other than coming across as argumentative?I'm trying to explain why people from the United States of America often call ourselves Americans in English rather than "USAns" (JustTK's made-up word). People from Latin America (and some other countries) sometimes object to this because America is the name of a continent for them. They use a continent model in which North America and South America together are regarded as one continent called America (the six-continent combined-America continent model). In contrast, native English-speakers regard them as two separate continents and there is no single continent called America for us.

I thought this should have been clear to JustTK after I posted links to the Wikipedia article on "Continent" in English and Spanish two days ago, but he still writes things like, "Too lazy to say your from the USA or your a USAn. It would be simpler and more for all if you simply said your Floridan, or conetticutian or whatever, instead of saying your from a continent".

The Cane
06-07-23, 20:37
I'm trying to explain why people from the United States of America often call ourselves Americans in English rather than "USAns" (JustTK's made-up word). People from Latin America (and some other countries) sometimes object to this because America is the name of a continent for them. They use a continent model in which North America and South America together are regarded as one continent called America (the six-continent combined-America continent model). In contrast, native English-speakers regard them as two separate continents and there is no single continent called America for us.

I thought this should have been clear to JustTK after I posted links to the Wikipedia article on "Continent" in English and Spanish two days ago, but he still writes things like, "Too lazy to say your from the USA or your a USAn. It would be simpler and more for all if you simply said your Floridan, or conetticutian or whatever, instead of saying your from a continent".One time I was over in Germany at an FKK club talking to a girl from Romania. She asked me where I was from and I replied, "The United States". She says, "Huh"? Again I answered, "The United States". Again she's like "What"? Finally I said, "America". Then she goes, "Oh, OK"! LOLOLOL! Now admittedly, most of those girls are pretty uneducated, and it's one reason why you find them working in FKK clubs. But that short exchange drives home the point. As JustTK proposes, there I was telling someone I was from the "United States", and in her mind that didn't click. But as soon as I said "America", then all of a sudden she understood and made the connection. And she wasn't thinking about the "United States of Mexico" or Costa Rica or Colombia or any place other than the USofA. My conversation with that girl showed just how ingrained around the world it is that "American" = somebody from the United States of America, and not from any other country in the Americas. And as you point out, even people from all the other countries in the Americas (including the United States of Mexico and Canada) think the same way. As was also pointed out, the only people who don't think that way are ones who have some axe to grind with the United States and its people "appropriating American" for themselves. Well that train left the station a long, long time ago. And it's not coming back!

Combo
06-07-23, 23:37
I'm trying to explain why people from the United States of America often call ourselves Americans in English rather than "USAns" (JustTK's made-up word). People from Latin America (and some other countries) sometimes object to this because America is the name of a continent for them. They use a continent model in which North America and South America together are regarded as one continent called America (the six-continent combined-America continent model). In contrast, native English-speakers regard them as two separate continents and there is no single continent called America for us.

I thought this should have been clear to JustTK after I posted links to the Wikipedia article on "Continent" in English and Spanish two days ago, but he still writes things like, "Too lazy to say your from the USA or your a USAn. It would be simpler and more for all if you simply said your Floridan, or conetticutian or whatever, instead of saying your from a continent".Just not worth arguing about. Both sides have a point.

Trim1
06-08-23, 00:04
Just not worth arguing about. Both sides have a point.I don't think there should be anything to argue about. I think it is obvious that when a person from the United States of America says that he is American or from America, he is referring to the United States of America rather than the continent of America in the six-continent combined-America model. Again, for native English-speakers, there is no single continent named America. In the seven-continent model, North America and South America are separate continents. What is there to argue?

JustTK
06-08-23, 01:04
Again, for native English-speakers, there is no single continent named America. In the seven-continent model, North America and South America are separate continents.If you don't accept there is a continent called 'America', surely you would accept there is a greater joint continent or region called the Americas. Whose people are American.

Note. You don't need to say your a USAn, that was a bit of fun, but you could say " I am from the USA", or from Wyoming, or even North American. But whatever, I still contend its not correct to claim that Petro is not America-friendly.

Trim1
06-08-23, 02:34
If you don't accept there is a continent called 'America', surely you would accept there is a greater joint continent or region called the Americas. Whose people are American.

Note. You don't need to say your a USAn, that was a bit of fun, but you could say " I am from the USA", or from Wyoming, or even North American. But whatever, I still contend its not correct to claim that Petro is not America-friendly.Would someone else like to explain to JustTK why when a person from the United States says he is American he means that he is from the United States of America as opposed to trying to convey the meaning that he is from the Americas region? (It is also true that a person from the United States is from the Americas region since the United States is part of the Americas region.) I could explain it to him myself, but maybe it would be better to let someone else do it.

JjBee62
06-08-23, 10:19
Would someone else like to explain to JustTK why when a person from the United States says he is American he means that he is from the United States of America as opposed to trying to convey the meaning that he is from the Americas region? (It is also true that a person from the United States is from the Americas region since the United States is part of the Americas region.) I could explain it to him myself, but maybe it would be better to let someone else do it.And I thought I was bad.

Is a Carolinan from North Carolina or South Carolina? How about a Dakotan? If someone writes they are from Jersey, you would probably assume New Jersey, but you could be way off. Miami? Florida or Ohio? Indiana? State or city in Pennsylvania? The most popular answer isn't necessarily correct. Sure, usually American refers to a citizen of the US, but if someone is confused, what's the harm in clarifying? It's worth noting that Colombians do not typically refer to us as "Americanos. ".

When I lived in New Mexico, I had Americans, from the USA, ask if I needed a passport to get into the US. True story.

In the context JustTK used it, he was correct. If Petro's policies are considered unfriendly to the US of A, but not to all the other countries in the Americas, it's not correct to say he's unfriendly to America.

If you had told the Romanian "USA", she would have immediately known where you were from. The same is true if you had said "New York. ".

Just my thoughts on the subject.

Trim1
06-08-23, 19:09
If you don't accept there is a continent called 'America', surely you would accept there is a greater joint continent or region called the Americas. Whose people are American.
Of course I accept that there is a region called the Americas. I mentioned the "Americas" in my very first post on this subject. As for whether I would call the people who live in the Americas region "Americans," first I need to explain a few things.

This discussion is straying from the purpose of this message board, but I'll write something about the word "coger" in Spanish that should be useful to mongers.

The administrator would be justified in moving this discussion somewhere else or suppressing it, but I think this topic is going to come up over and over ("International" is in the name of the website), so maybe we might as well try to settle it now.

My explanation is long (Monger Longer described something shorter that I wrote as "verbal diarrhea"). I tried to give a shorter explanation, but it looks like this is a complicated topic that requires a long explanation.

JjBee62 pointed out that there is a Miami both in Florida and in Ohio and that the most popular answer isn't necessarily correct. If someone says he is from Miami and you assume that he means Miami, Florida, you could be wrong.

If someone says he plays football, he might mean that he plays American football (a game that originated in the United States of America, also known as gridiron) or he might mean that he plays a game that Americans call soccer. In writing "Americans" here, I am referring to people from the United States of America rather than people from the Americas region. I'll return to this topic later.

Let's say an American (again, I'm referring to someone from the United States of America) travels to England and says to an Englishman that he plays football when he means that he plays American football. The listener thinks the American means soccer because that is what football means in England (and most of the world). However, in the United States and Canada, American football is simply called "football. ".

Is the Englishman wrong or is the American wrong? The Englishman has the wrong idea about what the American plays, but it is because the American did not adapt his language to the conventions used in England. Was it wrong for the American to say that plays football? He does play football, and if he had said that in the United States of America or Canada, there would be no confusion. In England, however, he needed to say "American football" to communicate clearly because "football" in England means what Americans call soccer.

In discussing how language is used in different parts of the world, it might be more useful to think in terms of "how can I communicate clearly?" rather than in terms of what is correct or not correct. The same word can have more than one meaning. However, the conventional meaning of a word may be different in different parts of the world or in different communities. Meanings can also change over time.

Here is an article about the Spanish word coger: https://thebogotapost.com/cogiendo-coger/6449/.

According to this article, coger means "to fuck" in Mexico, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia, Venezuela, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and the USA and it doesn't have that meaning in Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Panama, and Spain. However, a Colombian told me that she tried to use the word in Panama with the meaning that she wanted to catch a bus, and the person thought what she said was funny because it has a vulgar meaning there.

So, do I accept that people from the Americas region should be called Americans? What is important is not what I accept, but what other people accept. If I write "Bob is an American," I need to guess what someone else is going to think upon reading my sentence. If that person grew up in an English-speaking country, he will most likely think that I am saying that Bob is from the United States of America. If that person grew up in Latin America, then it is more complicated. He would probably still think that I mean that Bob is from the United States of America, but he might think that I mean that he is from the continent of America.

Also, if the person is from Latin America, there might be some kind of discussion about how people from the United States of America are egotistical for calling themselves Americans. That normally doesn't happen with people who grew up in English-speaking countries. I believe that mainly comes from the different continent model that is used in Latin America. If someone from the continent of Asia is an Asian, shouldn't someone from the continent of America be called an American? But there is no continent named America for English-speakers.

There is, however, a region called the Americas. Shouldn't we call people who live in the Americas "Americans?" It is important to note that the English language doesn't have a centralized authority for the English language like the Real Academia Espanola. We don't have a language designer saying things like, "the word American should mean someone from the Americas region and we could call people from the United States of America 'Americans' but we will pick something else because that term is already reserved for people from the Americas region. ".

At some point in time, people just started using America to refer to the United States of America and American to refer to people from the United States of America. There is no problem for English-speakers in using America to refer to the United States of America. There is no confusion. However, for Spanish-speakers, America has a different meaning: it means a continent. Since English-speakers refer to the United States of America as America, it is only natural for us to also refer to people from the United States of America as Americans. But what about people from the Americas region?

As you have probably noticed, we often need to have some way to refer to people from the United States of America. English-speakers have settled on calling people from the United States of America "Americans" and I kept referring to an American in my football example. I'm willing to call people from the United States of America estadounidenses or gringos in Spanish. If everyone else called people from the United States of America USAns and JustTK's made-up word were in the dictionary, I would use it, too.

As for needing a way to refer to people who live in the Americas region, that doesn't come up in conversation or writing nearly as often. Americans are not thinking, "if we call ourselves Americans, then what we will call people from the Americas region?" If I needed to convey the meaning that Bob is from somewhere in the Americas region, I would write it just like that ("Bob is from somewhere in the Americas region") rather than write "Bob is an American" because my guess would be that the reader would be thinking that I mean that Bob is from the United States of America if I wrote it that way. I might be willing to express the same idea as "Bob es americano" in Spanish because I think I'd have a better chance of conveying the meaning that Bob is from the American continent that way, but I have found that even Spanish-speakers often understand "americano" to mean someone from the United States of America.

It is not up to me to assign meanings to words (unless I'm making up a new word). I have to guess how other people will interpret words, and how they interpret words may depend on the context, the location, and / or their background.

Zeos1
06-09-23, 10:08
Been a hot minute since I've been down in Colombia and I heard weed is legal now. I recently asked the same question I'm the Thai section.

Do they have shops for it, and can you smoke in street or bars?

Also are there a bunch of chicas that like the good shit?

When I was there I brought gummies and a vape pen and the girls who liked it were really turned on by it.

Feel like it being legal maybe it opens up some more doors if the stigma is gone. In the CR I had a GF that hated it because she was brainwashed by the drug wars. I always feel like it would of done her some good.It's not that legal. I think there is a difference between a small amount for personal use vs more. As to whether you will be charged. As far as I know it is not legal yet.

Nypher
06-10-23, 06:58
DS160 is the form anyone has to use to get appointment. There are a lot of people who can book you a earlier date in embassies after you pay them and give your application number.

They just keep checking the slots more frequently. I have used a couple of guys in the past, to move appointments in India to earlier dates though. I did confirm they check slots of other embassies too.You were right on this. I told her don't pay and she didn't. But the person told her that she didn't have to pay until she had the date she wanted and kept moving the date up automatically for her in the system. Her interview is now August 2023, way better than December 2025 but of course now they want the 400 mil because they bumped the date up from roughly 2 years to roughly 2 months.

SankarShetty
06-10-23, 13:50
You were right on this. I told her don't pay and she didn't. But the person told her that she didn't have to pay until she had the date she wanted and kept moving the date up automatically for her in the system. Her interview is now August 2023, way better than December 2025 but of course now they want the 400 mil because they bumped the date up from roughly 2 years to roughly 2 months.In any system, people always find a way to make money off of information / knowledge they posses. Glad you were able to move up the timeline.

Nounce
06-11-23, 02:03
Of course I accept that there is a region called the America...When you say "I am from America", I know you are referring to USA (based on your point of view). But I would not think it is United States when you said "Petro is xxxx. America". I actually knew what you meant but I thought you misspoke because the lack of knowledge of what others think America is or we are talking in Medellin thread. I guess you assume all members are from USA so they all understand you the same way?

Trim1
06-11-23, 06:31
When you say "I am from America", I know you are referring to USA (based on your point of view). But I would not think it is United States when you said "Petro is xxxx. America".I did not say "Petro is xxxx. America". Where did I say that?


I actually knew what you meant but I thought you misspoke because the lack of knowledge of what others think America is or we are talking in Medellin thread. I guess you assume all members are from USA so they all understand you the same way?You knew what I meant? What exactly did I write?

I do not think all the members on this board are from the USA. Again, I am pointing out that America is the name of a continent for people who come from countries that speak Romance languages, but not for native English-speakers. Different parts of the world use different continent models. Native English-speakers typically understand "America" to mean the United States of America. I can show you many, many examples of that.

I have seen America (with an accent over the e) used to refer to a continent in Spanish, but I have also seen Spanish-speakers refer to people from the United States of America as americanos, though the term could also refer to people from the continent of America.

XXL
06-11-23, 09:40
...

I have seen America (with an accent over the e) used to refer to a continent in Spanish, but I have also seen Spanish-speakers refer to people from the United States of America as americanos, though the term could also refer to people from the continent of America.That's why Spanish speakers will refer to "los gringos" if they want to be more precise. The discussion is made more complicated by the fact that the Spanish language likes plurals, even when no plurality is meant:

Las Americas (SA + NA)
Feliz navidades ("Merry Christmas", plural though only one Christmas is meant)
Buenos dias
Buenas tardes

Interestingly, no such thing in Portuguese, except maybe for "as americas" in the historical sense.
Feliz natal
Bom dia
Boa tarde

Nounce
06-11-23, 15:26
I did not say "Petro is xxxx. America". Where did I say that?

You knew what I meant? What exactly did I write?
..I think you said Petro is unfriendly with America or something like that. I did not want to go back to get the exact quote. I ended up being lazy and tried to use dot dot dot but the auto correct would remove it so I used xxxx for dot dot dot. In this context, it means from his point of view, it will be like what TK is saying from his perspective.

I am taught to see it this way in my early Spanish lesson. Then I saw the correction happens over and over again in Facebook group too. Same thing with spelling Colombia as Columbia.

Trim1
06-11-23, 23:06
I think you said Petro is unfriendly with America or something like that.I did not say that. If you think I said that, then please use the search function of this message board or of your browser to find the exact quote and point it out.

I don't think there should be anything to fight about here. I'm saying that:

1) America is the name of a continent for people who come from countries that speak Romance languages (the six-continent combined-America model).

2) There is no continent named America for native English-speakers since we use the seven-continent model.

3) Native English-speakers typically understand "America" to mean the United States of America.

4) "Americano" in Spanish can refer to people from the continent of America (with an accent over the e) or it can refer to people from the United States of America, depending on the context and the speaker.

Do you disagree with any of these four points?

Nounce
06-12-23, 02:06
I did not say that. If you think I said that, then please use the search function of this message board or of your browser to find the exact quote and point it out....I already told you I did not want to spend time look for the exact quote as it is not important. Just replace what is incorrect with dot dot dot. LOL.

I don't agree with second part of point 4 and I did not review the other points. I would say Norte Americano is better. I think it may solve your issue if you had just said America refers to a country, instead of a continent but then the word America is not part of the country name in Spanish.

Trim1
06-12-23, 03:35
I already told you I did not want to spend time look for the exact quote as it is not important. Just replace what is incorrect with dot dot dot. LOL.I think we would have a better discussion if you would take the time to find out what I actually wrote instead of writing stuff based on what you only think I wrote. Just replace what is incorrect with dot dot dot? I did not make any statements of the form "Petro is xxxx America".


I don't agree with second part of point 4 and I did not review the other points. I would say Norte Americano is better.In writing that "'Americano' in Spanish can refer to people from the continent of America (with an accent over the e) or it can refer to people from the United States of America, depending on the context and the speaker," I am basing this on my experience interacting with native Spanish-speakers. Let me stress the very last part of what I wrote: "depending on the context and the speaker." One might think that "American" means someone from the United States of America in English, but "americano" means someone from the continent of America in Spanish, but I have found that the reality is not as simple as that. I have encountered native Spanish-speakers who use "americano" to refer to people from the United States of America. Personally, I avoid using that term in Spanish because it can also mean someone from the continent of America.

However, if a native Spanish-speaker uses the word "americano" to refer to someone from the United States of America, I'm not going to try to tell him that he should use another word like estadounidense, gringo, or norteamericano instead. I think "norteamericano" is a relatively popular option with Colombians. However, Canada and Mexico are also in North America.


I think it may solve your issue if you had just said America refers to a country, instead of a continent but then the word America is not part of the country name in Spanish.Solve my issue? What is my issue?

America is part of the official country name in Spanish. The official name is Estados Unidos de America. "Estados Unidos (EE. UU. ; en ingles: United States o US), denominado oficialmente Estados Unidos de America (EUA; en ingles: United States of America o USA); es un pais soberano constituido en una republica federal constitucional compuesta por cincuenta estados why un distrito federal. " However, Spanish-speakers do commonly refer to the United States of America as Estados Unidos rather than Estados Unidos de America.

Fun Luvr
06-12-23, 05:08
There is a new Check-mig form. I started filling it out earlier today. I got to the point where I had to put in the address of where I will be staying. Upon transmitting that page, I received a "Bad Gateway" message. I tried it on a desktop computer and on a cell phone. Same result. Now I receive "Bad Gateway" as soon as I try to go to the form. Also, they have changed the requirements for the password for frequent travelers. It would continue to display the sign in page after I input my username and password. I then tried to create an account. It allowed me to do that, using the same username, but required a password with different requirements.

Mr Enternational
06-12-23, 13:09
There is a new Check-mig form. I started filling it out earlier today. I got to the point where I had to put in the address of where I will be staying. Upon transmitting that page, I received a "Bad Gateway" message. I tried it on a desktop computer and on a cell phone. Same result. Now I receive "Bad Gateway" as soon as I try to go to the form. Also, they have changed the requirements for the password for frequent travelers. It would continue to display the sign in page after I input my username and password. I then tried to create an account. It allowed me to do that, using the same username, but required a password with different requirements.I had no problem with it the other day. I did it on the website using my cellphone because the app would not work right. I put in my address in the USA but used Barranquilla, Atlantico.

(Looks like the app still is not working. Maybe there is a new one to download. Nope. Did not see anything, but did get the bad gateway when I clicked on something after searching checkmig.).

Ended up searching migracion Colombia and the form seems to be working going in this way.

https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/#

Biomig is now available for foreigners leaving the country out of Bogota.

https://www.opain.co/page/comunicados/comunicadosdetalle?id=4271

Fun Luvr
06-12-23, 18:50
I had no problem with it the other day. I did it on the website using my cellphone because the app would not work right. I put in my address in the USA but used Barranquilla, Atlantico.

(Looks like the app still is not working. Maybe there is a new one to download. Nope. Did not see anything, but did get the bad gateway when I clicked on something after searching checkmig.).

Ended up searching migracion Colombia and the form seems to be working going in this way.

https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/#

Biomig is now available for foreigners leaving the country out of Bogota.

https://www.opain.co/page/comunicados/comunicadosdetalle?id=4271Thanks for your response. I tried that link, and got the same result on my computer and cell phone. It gets to step 4 of 5 and displays "Bad Gateway" when I complete step 4. I select Medellin as the arrival city (Jose Maria Cordova Airport) and where I will be staying. I've tried both Frequent Traveler and the one without signing in.

Botti224
06-13-23, 20:53
Hi,

I'm living in Bogotá for a while and while I had a lot of sex here I didn't went to a Gangbang. It's really an experience I'm looking forward to make. So does anyone know some club /"organization" that organizes Gangbangs?

I'm especially interested in doing that in areas that are not the big cities but Bogotá, Medellin etc. Would be better than nothing.

Elvis 2008
06-19-23, 17:28
There is a new Check-mig form. I started filling it out earlier today. I got to the point where I had to put in the address of where I will be staying. Upon transmitting that page, I received a "Bad Gateway" message. I tried it on a desktop computer and on a cell phone. Same result. Now I receive "Bad Gateway" as soon as I try to go to the form. Also, they have changed the requirements for the password for frequent travelers. It would continue to display the sign in page after I input my username and password. I then tried to create an account. It allowed me to do that, using the same username, but required a password with different requirements.Yeah, this surprised me as well. They used to be anal about the physical Covid card and / or having an electronic one. Now no one cares. Now the big thing is check-MIG. I always filled it out but was rarely asked about it in the past. Lady at American Airlines checking me in told me a completed form comes to your phone as a QR code, but when I filled it out, I did not get said code. Lady at counter said what I had was fine. Not sure what happened.

The good news is that last two times I went to Colombia I had at least an hour plus wait getting through. I flew into Bogota, and there were no customs lines and I waited all of 5 minutes on my luggage. I am not sure this is a trend, but I sure hope so.

SubCmdr
06-20-23, 00:58
I've had no problems with the website. And my last trip to Medellin I cleared immigration in 5 minutes including the wait and spent more time waiting for my back to show up than it took to clear the line for the scanner in customs.

Fun Luvr
06-20-23, 02:35
Yeah, this surprised me as well. They used to be anal about the physical Covid card and / or having an electronic one. Now no one cares. Now the big thing is check-MIG. I always filled it out but was rarely asked about it in the past. Lady at American Airlines checking me in told me a completed form comes to your phone as a QR code, but when I filled it out, I did not get said code. Lady at counter said what I had was fine. Not sure what happened.

The good news is that last two times I went to Colombia I had at least an hour plus wait getting through. I flew into Bogota, and there were no customs lines and I waited all of 5 minutes on my luggage. I am not sure this is a trend, but I sure hope so.The counter agent filled it out and it went through. She did it in Spanish and autofilled many of fields. I received a confirmation that it was done, but there was something wrong with their system. When I went through immigration in Medellin, the agent asked me all the questions that were answered on the form.

Fun Luvr
06-20-23, 02:40
I've had no problems with the website. And my last trip to Medellin I cleared immigration in 5 minutes including the wait and spent more time waiting for my back to show up than it took to clear the line for the scanner in customs.When was your last trip?

SubCmdr
06-20-23, 02:51
When was your last trip?May / June 2023. Arrived in May and left in June. I had a great trip. Really enjoyed myself! The airline was Wingo.

From SDQ: Where you enter the line to check in the Wingo employee was insistent that I show the Check-Mig form before I was allowed in line. When I arrived in MDE, The immigration officer only asked me for my passport and one other question: "How long was my stay?".

As I stated before, it took me 5 minutes to clear immigration. The longest part of the entire process was waiting for my bag. And that was after I spent time in DUFRY looking for my favorite bottle of JD.

ILoveColombia
06-20-23, 10:02
Hi,

I'm living in Bogot for a while and while I had a lot of sex here I didn't went to a Gangbang. It's really an experience I'm looking forward to make. So does anyone know some club /"organization" that organizes Gangbangs?

I'm especially interested in doing that in areas that are not the big cities but Bogot, Medellin etc. Would be better than nothing.Start w going to swingers clubs and ask around there. I just Google; swinger medellin Bogota there com up direccions, go there, should not be a problem.

Fun Luvr
06-21-23, 04:52
May / June 2023. Arrived in May and left in June.You stated in your post that you've had no problems with the check-mig website. For present day discussions, it matters if you were using the new or old form. I never had a problem with the old form. I still can't get the new form to go past step 4. I tried it on two computers and a cell phone, in both English and Spanish, being signed in and not being signed in. It's obvious an answer I'm giving is triggering a rejection, but the error I get is "Bad Gateway" rather than identifying the error.

TooDirty
06-21-23, 16:20
There is a report of distinction which has a section about swingers


Hi,

I'm living in Bogot for a while and while I had a lot of sex here I didn't went to a Gangbang. It's really an experience I'm looking forward to make. So does anyone know some club /"organization" that organizes Gangbangs?

I'm especially interested in doing that in areas that are not the big cities but Bogot, Medellin etc. Would be better than nothing..

Sma202
06-22-23, 05:48
Hi,

I'm living in Bogot for a while and while I had a lot of sex here I didn't went to a Gangbang. It's really an experience I'm looking forward to make. So does anyone know some club /"organization" that organizes Gangbangs?

I'm especially interested in doing that in areas that are not the big cities but Bogot, Medellin etc. Would be better than nothing.Interested as well. There is some Reddit swinger reviews, not much to go on.

SubCmdr
06-23-23, 13:28
You stated in your post that you've had no problems with the check-mig website. For present day discussions, it matters if you were using the new or old form. I never had a problem with the old form. I still can't get the new form to go past step 4. I tried it on two computers and a cell phone, in both English and Spanish, being signed in and not being signed in. It's obvious an answer I'm giving is triggering a rejection, but the error I get is "Bad Gateway" rather than identifying the error.I don't know if it is new site or the old site. I am new to travel to Colombia. But now that I have made my first trip, I know I will be making lots more.

I am using a iPhone 14 Pro MaX 512 GB. I enter the chick-mig website I just follow the instructions and complete the entries. And just completed the form for my next flight without a problem. I was able to download my phone and received a email from Check-Mig.

Nypher
06-28-23, 17:09
I don't know if it is new site or the old site. I am new to travel to Colombia. But now that I have made my first trip, I know I will be making lots more.

I am using a iPhone 14 Pro MaX 512 GB. I enter the chick-mig website I just follow the instructions and complete the entries. And just completed the form for my next flight without a problem. I was able to download my phone and received a email from Check-Mig.This was your first Colombia trip?

Ok, so now I understand why your views on certain things that occur there was different. After you complete making more trips to Colombia, specifically Cartagena, I'm waiting to see if your views will stay the same LOL.

Elvis 2008
06-29-23, 20:41
An hour wait to get out of the CTG airport. The line for Colombians was less than a minute long.

I had not used my Priority pass card before. CTG airport has a priority pass lounge. It is right next to the bakery with long lines. They have free finger food, wi fi, chairs and a sofa. It is okay. I would not pay for it but it is okay.

Bogota is a different story. The PP lounge there has a full bar, full menu, and when we entered, there were actually two women playing violins. This was such a high end experience I was afraid my step daughter to be would get spoiled. This was in the domestic wing of the Bogota airport.

I am sure most guys who fly to Colombia go through Fort Lauderdale. I got the Barclays American card and got like 60,000 free miles. I used them and went through Miami. I usually fly Spirit and upgrade to a nicer seat when I go through Lauderdale. Thing is I do not like the terminal there and often have been stuck there for hours at a time.

Miami has the American Express Centurion lounge and the AA lounges. I love the Amex lounges: good food, open bar, comfortable chairs, fast wi fi. Only downside is they are often crowded. Thing is the terminal that uses the cheaper South American flights like Avianca and latam do not have the lounges.

I live in Texas and the five hour direct flights wear me out unless I am in business class on the planes. This flight was smooth. Both flights were two and a half hours and in between I was in the comfortable Amex lounge sipping a cocktail, eating a good dinner, and reading on my tablet. When I touched down in Colombia and back here in Texas, I was relaxed and ready to run right off the plane. I cannot say that about my other flights. Those lounges can make a huge difference when you travel.

SubCmdr
07-08-23, 00:35
On my second trip to Colombia I arrived at MDE. After we deplaned followed everyone to stand in the visitors immigration line. I was only asked why I was visiting and how long would I be staying. I spent exactly 35 minutes in line (including the immigration processing and interview). I know because I timed it and made a note of it in order to add to the factual knowledge of this forum.


This was your first Colombia trip?Yes, I posted about the first couple of days in the Medellin thread.


Ok, so now I understand why your views on certain things that occur there was different. After you complete making more trips to Colombia, specifically Cartagena, I'm waiting to see if your views will stay the same LOL.I actually have no plans to visit Cartagena. My plans are to eventually make a trip to Cali. But as I wrote in my trip report in the Medellin thread I enjoyed my trip.

With all due respect, I suspect you don't know jack about me unless you have read my extensive collection of posts in the Dominican Republic forum where I live. You see, when I visit Colombia, I am not come from a "sex prison" county. I come from a land of abundance when it comes to pussy. My initial visit to Colombia was because I had heard good things about it and I was curious. But as I have written: "Don't believe the hype".

I am an independent thinker that will not bow down to any amount of personal criticism nor change my thoughts in order to fit in and be "one of the boys". That simply is not possible with me. But if you are making reference to certain individuals who are choosing to exercise the privileges given by the passport issued to them from their respective countries, then my views on the individuals commenting about that will never change. I know, what they are trying to imply with their coded language.