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On my second trip to Colombia I arrived at MDE. After we deplaned followed everyone to stand in the visitors immigration line. I was only asked why I was visiting and how long would I be staying. I spent exactly 35 minutes in line (including the immigration processing and interview). I know because I timed it and made a note of it in order to add to the factual knowledge of this forum.
Yes, I posted about the first couple of days in the Medellin thread.
I actually have no plans to visit Cartagena. My plans are to eventually make a trip to Cali. But as I wrote in my trip report in the Medellin thread I enjoyed my trip.
With all due respect, I suspect you don't know jack about me unless you have read my extensive collection of posts in the Dominican Republic forum where I live. You see, when I visit Colombia, I am not come from a "sex prison" county. I come from a land of abundance when it comes to pussy. My initial visit to Colombia was because I had heard good things about it and I was curious. But as I have written: "Don't believe the hype".
I am an independent thinker that will not bow down to any amount of personal criticism nor change my thoughts in order to fit in and be "one of the boys". That simply is not possible with me. But if you are making reference to certain individuals who are choosing to exercise the privileges given by the passport issued to them from their respective countries, then my views on the individuals commenting about that will never change. I know, what they are trying to imply with their coded language.I actually don't know much about you, I saw a new name posting in the Cartegena thread and the way the replies were worded I thought you were there before and currently there so I was wondering how you did not see or avoided certain things going on that I previously experienced. But then after reading your post in this section of the forum it became clear why, and I understood. It was an invalid conversation due to I was speaking from a perspective of someone who has been going to Cartegena for about 5 years, 2 trips a year minimum, and I stay for 3 weeks minimum at a time and this was your first time in a completely different city so it was a complete misunderstanding on my part.
I don't venture into the DR thread which is why your name was unfamiliar to me. I've done my trips there and no plans to go back, the drama there got way too stupid among the men who kept acting like they were still in high school always trying to prove something to someone, always have to be the loudest person in the vicinity, even though they wrong they still want to be right, so Cartegena was my escape until the same type of individuals, mainly the ones that go to Sosua, started showing up in Cartegena with the same behavior after the pandemic.
As for your initial visit based on hearing good things, I'm going to guess you found out the many half truths about Medelin. Its basically a weekend place and it has to have the type of girls the gringo finds attractive. I tried it as well last year and it was not for me, the girls were not to my liking so I ended up flying in one of my Chicas from Cartegena and did sightseeing.
Well, maybe Cali will live up to the hype. Enjoy it for us both.
But then after reading your post in this section of the forum it became clear why, and I understood.I glad you have a clear understanding of my posts at this time.
I don't venture into the DR thread which is why your name was unfamiliar to me. I've done my trips there and no plans to go back, the drama there got way too stupid among the men who kept acting like they were still in high school always trying to prove something to someone, always have to be the loudest person in the vicinity, even though they wrong they still want to be right, so Cartegena was my escape until the same type of individuals, mainly the ones that go to Sosua, started showing up in Cartegena with the same behavior after the pandemic.I not trying to thread jack but let me tell you that the Dominican Republic or Sosua is nothing like individuals who write about the place in the Dominican Republic thread. My entire purpose of being on ISG in the Dominican Republic thread to help people the way I got help in the beginning. After 10 years of "boots on the ground" living in the place, nobody can tell me jack about the Dominion Republic. So if you want to get the real deal about the place search for my posts over there. Or contact me directly. I keep a open mind about things other than "Pussy is Pussy" and Man Law 101.
As for your initial visit based on hearing good things, I'm going to guess you found out the many half truths about Medelin. It's basically a weekend place and it has to have the type of girls the gringo finds attractive. I tried it as well last year and it was not for me, the girls were not to my liking so I ended up flying in one of my Chicas from Cartegena and did sightseeing.I understand what you mean. I like Medellin, but in my opinion it has been hyped up when it comes to the girls. But for me it is like a breath of fresh air. A fully functioning city, well organized and with solid infrastructure. I goto Medellin because I have a real girlfriend and a business there. Works out quite nicely for me. If I say so myself.
Well, maybe Cali will live up to the hype. Enjoy it for us both.Cali has no hype to live up to in my mind. I have one friend who lives there and another friend who visits there often. These are two sources of information that I trust about Cali and I met them in the Dominican Republic portion of the fourm. I know exactly what to expect. From the pictures of the girls to the description of day to day life in Cali I KNOW I will like it better than Medellin. I got my hands on some 15 year old rum there and I didn't even know they distilled rum in Colombia. So my trips so far have increased my life knowledge.
Hopefully this new base of understanding will facilitate our communication in the future.
Since there doesn't appear to be an Aruba thread, I'll post my findings here.
I'm currently on a short dive trip in Aruba. Had some free time last night and decided to at least do a quick survey of the local red light district. First, I'll add some basics about Aruba.
Flight time from Miami is about 3 hours, 2 hours from Bogota or Medellin. English is widely spoken and dollars are accepted everywhere. The exchange rate is fixed at 1. 8 Florin per dollar. Ask if the price is in florin or dollars. Most places give change in dollars, except for coins.
Almost everything is expensive, but not horribly so. I've seen 1 police officer since arriving. There doesn't seem to be a visible police presence. Everywhere feels safe.
The main tourist areas are near the airport in Oranjestad and in the hotel zone in Noord. It's recommended you rent a car, if you're planning to explore the island. The landscape isn't much. Lots of cactus and a few trees. The wind is always blowing and temperatures are mid 80's, with slightly high humidity. Tap water is safe to drink.
The red light district is on the east end of the island in San Nicholas. Without traffic, 35-40 minutes driving will get you there. A good landmark to find Is Charlie's Bar. It's not part of the scene, but it's easy to find.
The area is 4 blocks wide and 6 blocks long. At the eastern end is a normal bar called Fan, on Lagoweg street. Nuyenstraat is at the west end. Some of the streets are one way.
My survey consisted a walk through and drive through between 6 7 pm and another drive through around 9 pm, complete with 2 club visits. Probably 30 working girls on the streets, many street walkers, others working at clubs. If you're driving through, or walking through, the women will approach you. Several appeared to be working in front of short time rooms. Others, I assume, might do car sex. The clubs appear to have minimal rooms available.
Most, if not all the girls are Colombian and I would guess the average age at somewhere above 25. Most were average looking, with a few who I found very attractive.
The 2 bars I visited were empty. 2 girls inside the first, 3 or 4 outside the second. Beers were reasonable, about $4. They were both small places. I didn't ask prices, but 1 girl offered a strip show for $40. At a guess, I'd say $60-$100 could be negotiated.
If you're planning a mongering trip, don't go to Aruba. If you have some other reason to visit, and looking to scratch an itch, San Nicholas is where to go.
LatinaLover#1
07-16-23, 02:43
The exchange rate is down from a high of 5000 to just a hair above 4000 that is a drop of 20% in about a year, an incredible drop. I'm not a currency guy but It has to be the Liberal administrations out of control spending and fiscal policy in general. I wish I could say the rate of slide down can't continue but nothing on the horizon seems to say it won't. Do any of your currency guys see any good news coming?
The exchange rate is down from a high of 5000 to just a hair above 4000 that is a drop of 20% in about a year, an incredible drop. I'm not a currency guy but It has to be the Liberal administrations out of control spending and fiscal policy in general. I wish I could say the rate of slide down can't continue but nothing on the horizon seems to say it won't. Do any of your currency guys see any good news coming?When the current administration took over, it was 3500, and while they were in office, it went up to 5000. Do they get credit for that? Now it is 4000 which is 15% higher than the date when the current admin took over. Do they get credit for that? So you are complaining about the drop from 5000 to 4000 but happy about the move from 3500 to 5000 under the same administration? I am not sure what your point is.
Mr Enternational
07-16-23, 03:02
Since there doesn't appear to be an Aruba thread, I'll post my findings here.Here is the Aruba thread. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?515-Aruba.
You do understand that you are describing that the COP has claimed 20% against the dollar. I do not see how that is negative if you are Colombian. If you are not referring to the political administration running Colombia then you are in the wrong thread. There are two sides to every trade. One side wins, One side loses. Right now the people of Colombia are winning. You have to look at the macro and micro aspects of the economy in Colombia that might be bidding up the price of the COP in the currency markets.
Because if you think it is just because of what the USD is doing you need to expand your perspective. Worldwide the USD versus other currencies vary and is not universal. For example currently in the Dominican Republic the USD is on fire and the DOP is dropping like a rock.
The exchange rate is down from a high of 5000 to just a hair above 4000 that is a drop of 20% in about a year, an incredible drop. I'm not a currency guy but It has to be the Liberal administrations out of control spending and fiscal policy in general. I wish I could say the rate of slide down can't continue but nothing on the horizon seems to say it won't. Do any of your currency guys see any good news coming?
This post is for JJBee62. The Aruba post section is under "Caribbean", "Lesser Antilles" Section.
Mr Enternational
07-16-23, 15:48
When the current administration took over, it was 3500, and while they were in office, it went up to 5000. Do they get credit for that? Seems like he is talking about the current administration in Colombia and you are talking about the current administration somewhere else.
LatinaLover#1
07-16-23, 15:55
You do understand that you are describing that the COP has claimed 20% against the dollar. I do not see how that is negative if you are Colombian. If you are not referring to the political administration running Colombia then you are in the wrong thread. There are two sides to every trade. One side wins, One side loses. Right now the people of Colombia are winning. You have to look at the macro and micro aspects of the economy in Colombia that might be bidding up the price of the COP in the currency markets.
Because if you think it is just because of what the USD is doing you need to expand your perspective. Worldwide the USD versus other currencies vary and is not universal. For example currently in the Dominican Republic the USD is on fire and the DOP is dropping like a rock.I quoted the xchange of COP vs USD ONLY! And the USA Government ONLY! Not Petro or the benefit of the high peso for Colombians. It was meant for a comparison or USD and COP only, and Americans exchange dollars for pesos.
Manizales911
07-16-23, 16:23
Right now the people of Colombia are winning.The Colombian people are NOT winning, they are getting CRUSHED by inflation. Before you tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about, I've been coming here for 20 years, live here part time and have family here and can tell you FOR A FACT that the average Colombian is hurting due to crazy rises in prices, talk to some of them and ask, and no, some two bit working girl doesn't count.
I quoted the xchange of COP vs USD ONLY! And the USA Government ONLY! Not Petro or the benefit of the high peso for Colombians. It was meant for a comparison or USD and COP only, and Americans exchange dollars for pesos.Okay. When Biden took office the exchange rate was around 3500 COP per dollar. It briefly got around 5 k before settling around 4400, with lots of fluctuations. Now it's back to about 4 k.
For comparison, when Trump took office the rate was just under 3 k and was at 3500 when he left. Briefly, early 2020, the rate hit 4 k while everything was shutdown. Unless you were in Colombia during the pandemic shutdown (or sending money to Colombia), you're complaining about getting a better rate than you ever got while Trump was President, have been getting between 500 and 1500 more and blaming it all on Biden.
Don't worry. There were also people screaming that when Petro took office the rate would sail past 5 k and Colombian currency would be like Venezuelan currency.
Personally, I don't worry about it. My first time in Colombia it was 1900 to 1. During most of my time here it was 3 k. 5 k would be great, but if 4 k is what I get, 4 k is what I'm happy with.
LatinaLover#1
07-17-23, 00:12
Okay. When Biden took office the exchange rate was around 3500 COP per dollar. It briefly got around 5 k before settling around 4400, with lots of fluctuations. Now it's back to about 4 k.
For comparison, when Trump took office the rate was just under 3 k and was at 3500 when he left. Briefly, early 2020, the rate hit 4 k while everything was shutdown. Unless you were in Colombia during the pandemic shutdown (or sending money to Colombia), you're complaining about getting a better rate than you ever got while Trump was President, have been getting between 500 and 1500 more and blaming it all on Biden.
Don't worry. There were also people screaming that when Petro took office the rate would sail past 5 k and Colombian currency would be like Venezuelan currency.
Personally, I don't worry about it. My first time in Colombia it was 1900 to 1. During most of my time here it was 3 k. 5 k would be great, but if 4 k is what I get, 4 k is what I'm happy with.It was 1700 but prices in Colombia / Bogota were a lot cheaper then, for hotels girls restaurant so everything is relative but I have never seen the dollar slide 20% before, ever, usually only gets stronger but this is new.
LatinaLover#1
07-17-23, 00:23
The Colombian people are NOT winning, they are getting CRUSHED by inflation. Before you tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about, I've been coming here for 20 years, live here part time and have family here and can tell you FOR A FACT that the average Colombian is hurting due to crazy rises in prices, talk to some of them and ask, and no, some two bit working girl doesn't count.The price of food is difficult, especially for the working class. Not to mention the government has begun taxing food! That is very cruel. My girls family has to live in Soacha to afford the rent. Most Colombians about 60%+ of the population are on minimum wage and eat rice, beans, & pumpkin, beef fish even chicken is a rare monthly treat.
Individuals who are trying compare international exchange rates of a country on the international market to internal inflation inside of a country are comparing apples to oranges.
Instead of just doing the equivalent of the reach around and fling, some of ya'll up in here should actually spend some time reading the financial news and educating yourselves on international financial affairs as I have done.
For example: https://www.bloomberglinea.com/english/weakening-us-dollar-puts-colombian-peso-into-worlds-top-3-for-appreciation/#text=For%20 Juan%20 David%20 Ball%C3%A9 and%2 see%20 director, the%20 market%2 see%20 among%20 other%20 reasons.
Written in April 2023 this article does an excellent job of describing the reasons for the volatility in what has historically been a very strong currency against the USD.
There is a certain individual that wants to take my words and twist them. He has a bone to pick with me because my opinion differs from his on the attractiveness of girls in Colombia to girls in the Dominican Republic. He has now taken this rather small, insignificant difference of opinion and carried it over to the General Information thread in the Colombia section. After all who care what I think about the attractiveness of girls in Colombia as compared to the Dominican Republic. Man Law 101: No man should be telling another man who he should fuck nor how to spend his hard earned money. Reasonable people can disagree. But reasonable people should not be making accusations and trolling me from thread to thread country to country.
I am not going to spend my time teaching international finance to wage slaves. But if you are international businessman such as myself, part of your success depends on knowing the actual factors that play into international exchange rates.
Inflation in Colombia is NOT being caused by exchange rates And especially not food inflation. Colombia only imports 10% of its food. By any measure on a macro economic basis when country with a strong domestic economy (Like Colombia) and has a strong currency, that is a positive because the USD is the worlds reserve currency and the currency of exchange. When you can buy more dollars with your currency that is a plus for the economy on a macro economic level.
Inflation is a macro economic factor inside of a local economy. The experts say that: When the US Dollar weakens, products bought abroad or brought from abroad usually drop in price. Some examples are computers, cell phones, business machines, food or raw materials to produce food, among others.
What is the cause of inflation in Colombia. Here I have to advise everyone does not know why to review your Economics 101 course. Inflation is caused by too much money chasing too few goods. In Colombia as it is all over the world. Anyone concerned about inflation should hold a currency immune from it. Get out of the Fiat currency system and place your store of value into the strongest currency that you are able to hold and self custody.
To simplify, exchange rates are largely dependent on two factors: the relative "real" (inflation adjusted) interest rates (higher = stronger currency), and the balance of trade. A negative balance of trade represents a future obligation to buy other currencies, and so leads to a weaker currency. And, inflation is caused by too much money (demand) chasing too few goods (supply). In Latin countries, unlike in the Yew Ess, the printing press is in the hands of the legislative branch. They then implement programs they don't have the money to pay for, so they print more money and you have constant, annoying inflation.
With all due respect:
If it was really that simple then then take the issue of a negative balance of trade: The U.S. balance of trade in goods and, more broadly, the current account, have been in deficit for decades. Year after year, Americans buy more goods in global markets than they sell. Using what has been written below that would make the USD one of the of the weakest currencies in the world. We all know WHY it is not. This is not to the place to get into it. This is forum for Colombia and I posted an article about why the Colombian Peso is strong against the dollar.
Inflation is another case. You got the definition right there (thanks for quoting me and not giving me credit). And inflation has been fairly aggressive in in Colombia. But it is not being caused by the the strength of the COP against the USD.
To simplify, exchange rates are largely dependent on two factors: the relative "real" (inflation adjusted) interest rates (higher = stronger currency), and the balance of trade. A negative balance of trade represents a future obligation to buy other currencies, and so leads to a weaker currency. And, inflation is caused by too much money (demand) chasing too few goods (supply). In Latin countries, unlike in the Yew Ess, the printing press is in the hands of the legislative branch. They then implement programs they don't have the money to pay for, so they print more money and you have constant, annoying inflation.
To simplify, exchange rates are largely dependent on two factors: the relative "real" (inflation adjusted) interest rates (higher = stronger currency), and the balance of trade. A negative balance of trade represents a future obligation to buy other currencies, and so leads to a weaker currency. And, inflation is caused by too much money (demand) chasing too few goods (supply). In Latin countries, unlike in the Yew Ess, the printing press is in the hands of the legislative branch. They then implement programs they don't have the money to pay for, so they print more money and you have constant, annoying inflation.The US dollar is a bit of a special case, in that it is effectively the worlds reserve currency. There is a huge demand for US bonds and currency which is held by the central banks of most countries around the world And also there is the function of the US dollar as a "safe haven" currency. In total there are a lot of moving parts influencing currencies and the US dollar in particular. The Mexican peso and the Colombian peso, and a couple of other Latin American currencies have done especially well recently against US dollar. Including the Costa Rica colon, which really seems odd. But for whatever reasons.
The US dollar is a bit of a special case, in that it is effectively the worlds reserve currency. There is a huge demand for US bonds and currency which is held by the central banks of most countries around the world Yes, but that is already reflected in the "real" rate of interest, which is based on risks such as default and liquidity.
Inflation is another case. You got the definition right there (thanks for quoting me and not giving me credit)Actually, I wasn't quoting you and did not notice you had made that exact reference. It's not original to you either and you didn't cite. But as you pointed out, it's in every Econ 101 textbook. For a more specific quote, you have Milton Friedman: 'Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon. ".
Mr Enternational
08-03-23, 14:50
Bogota has revamped the entrance to the exiting immigration. Today I went to use Biomig. Foreigners use the bigger machines. The slim ones are for Colombians. You put your passport in. After it scans, you type in your flight number. Then it takes your picture. Unfortunately the machine was not recognizing my face so the chick helping with the machines took me over to the shortest line. It worked fine for another American guy. I even tried the kiosk he went to after, but nope.
Did you still have to do check mig I did 1 and 2 months ago Bucaramanga though.
Mr Enternational
08-04-23, 17:46
Did you still have to do check mig I did 1 and 2 months ago Bucaramanga though.I did not do it entering or leaving the country.
ILoveColombia
08-15-23, 00:01
I can only say that I have met a young paisa, Valeria!
She is a typical Pocahontas; very cute, small, 150 cm, and slim, long black hair, nice eyes; hot temper!
(150 centimetres = 4. 92 feet.).
She is 23 years old, I am 43, she is real, authentic!
I can tell the difference between an ordinary interesada and Valeria. She is truly passionate about her four-year-old son, she is passionate about getting out of poverty, not just about getting high and becoming a well-paid prepago and webcam model.
Which I don't see anything wrong in itself, but most of the profit is often wasted on luxury, not investment in education or language learning!
So she wants both a new world and a man; there are no opportunities in Colombia while "you have everything". She wants to go to Scandinavia! She is very affectionate. She's not looking for luxury in the first place, but wants to be a "professional woman", preferably in some slightly outwardly boring profession for a young beauty, as she likes maths, organising and all that.
But also incredibly in love, this can only happen in magical Medellin / Colombia; not in the cold North or in Buenos Aires or Peru!
In Skandivavia, maybe also USA, Buenos Aires; it can't happen!
I mean; so beautiful, so young, very intelligent. But without resources.
She is like a little black female cat, gatita. Hot and willing, but also intelligent.
She wants to study and be "demasiado seria".
So this doesn't cost any money, because being a monger is hardly a cheap lifestyle.
I don't really want to, but she's already taken over. She's so passionate and strong-willed that there's no stopping her; she gives everything sexually and is usually happy and lively, interspersed with typical Latin energy outbursts, which I'm lucky to have escaped with my life.
Perhaps this is a way of paying back to Medellin / Colombia. I give her access to a rich welfare state with free university education and healthcare!
She will leave me for a younger guy later, but first we will have fun for a few years!
The latest installment in the never-ending saga of the CheckMig form, it appears they've fixed it. Going through the Migracion website link, it worked perfectly, downloaded and emailed the completed form to me.
My timing was good today. Flight got in early, short line and no problems. Rental car company gave me a double free upgrade and less than 1 hour after landing I was in Medellin.
I can only say that I have met a young paisa, Valeria!And we all know how this one will turn out.
LatinaLover#1
08-16-23, 14:00
Yes, but that is already reflected in the "real" rate of interest, which is based on risks such as default and liquidity.Now for no reason that I understand, the Dollar began to rise again. Now between 4000 and 4100 Having exchanged many many dollars on many years and trips to Colombia I will never understand the whole currency thing.
On a side note lots of chatter in the states about masking up be / see of the new variant. I had it about a month ago, much worse for me than the first covid which was 3 days and good as new, This one kicked my ass for a solid week, headaches and fatigue like I never felt before, 7 days in bed and then another week or so to get close to normal. In my case it started with a runny nose, and got worse from there. If you get a runny nose be alert! I hope we don't get back into the whole quarantined thing and mask rules.
Now for no reason that I understand, the Dollar began to rise again. Now between 4000 and 4100 Having exchanged many many dollars on many years and trips to Colombia I will never understand the whole currency thing.
On a side note lots of chatter in the states about masking up be / see of the new variant. I had it about a month ago, much worse for me than the first covid which was 3 days and good as new, This one kicked my ass for a solid week, headaches and fatigue like I never felt before, 7 days in bed and then another week or so to get close to normal. In my case it started with a runny nose, and got worse from there. If you get a runny nose be alert! I hope we don't get back into the whole quarantined thing and mask rules.Maybe this can explain: Petro wants to renegotiate a trade agreement with the US.
https://www.elpais.com.co/economia/presidente-petro-revelo-que-inicio-la-renegociacion-del-tlc-con-estados-unidos-1644.html
The latest installment in the never-ending saga of the CheckMig form, it appears they've fixed it. Going through the Migracion website link, it worked perfectly, downloaded and emailed the completed form to me.
My timing was good today. Flight got in early, short line and no problems. Rental car company gave me a double free upgrade and less than 1 hour after landing I was in Medellin.Its better than before with the new update, I finished mine in less than 2 minutes and received 2 emails in seconds (appeared to be duplicates). Some are still going to ivisa.com and paying but to each their own.
What I liked most about the updated site is that my country of birth is now in English so it's easier to find, but my nationality its still in Estados Unidos.
The check mig is just going to confuse readers if they should do it or not.
It's that there are multiple variables and when users post some info is omitted.
1. Origin departing Airport code.
2. Airline.
3. Airport of first entry into Colombia.
Last week I flew in on Jet Blue out of JFK to CTG, they did not allow me to bag drop or board unless they saw the form was filled out.
My boy flew in Sunday the 20th, same shit with him, but them made him print out a paper pass and see the gate agent to pre check his form was filled out before they started pre boarding.
Another one of my boys flew in yesterday, Monday, same shit. He had to show it was filled out and got a smiley face on his paper pass.
This have been happening since 2021 on every trip out of JFK on Jet Blue. But for 2 minutes of time I don't want to be that person getting stopped at the last minutes because I didn't fill it out. With my luck, I would be that person to get stopped LOL.
Now for no reason that I understand, the Dollar began to rise again. Now between 4000 and 4100 Having exchanged many many dollars on many years and trips to Colombia I will never understand the whole currency thing.
On a side note lots of chatter in the states about masking up be / see of the new variant. I had it about a month ago, much worse for me than the first covid which was 3 days and good as new, This one kicked my ass for a solid week, headaches and fatigue like I never felt before, 7 days in bed and then another week or so to get close to normal. In my case it started with a runny nose, and got worse from there. If you get a runny nose be alert! I hope we don't get back into the whole quarantined thing and mask rules.Went to exchange yesterday, no cabrios in Cartegena wanted to budge over 3700.
The Tall Man
08-23-23, 16:43
I can only say that I have met a young paisa, Valeria!
She is a typical Pocahontas; very cute, small, 150 cm, and slim, long black hair, nice eyes; hot temper!
(150 centimetres = 4. 92 feet.).
She is 23 years old, I am 43, she is real, authentic!
I can tell the difference between an ordinary interesada and Valeria. She is truly passionate about her four-year-old son, she is passionate about getting out of poverty, not just about getting high and becoming a well-paid prepago and webcam model.
Which I don't see anything wrong in itself, but most of the profit is often wasted on luxury, not investment in education or language learning!
So she wants both a new world and a man; there are no opportunities in Colombia while "you have everything". She wants to go to Scandinavia! She is very affectionate. She's not looking for luxury in the first place, but wants to be a "professional woman", preferably in some slightly outwardly boring profession for a young beauty, as she likes maths, organising and all that.
But also incredibly in love, this can only happen in magical Medellin / Colombia; not in the cold North or in Buenos Aires or Peru!
In Skandivavia, maybe also USA, Buenos Aires; it can't happen!
I mean; so beautiful, so young, very intelligent. But without resources.The Tall Man has been everywhere in Colombia over the past 30 years of travel here, yep 30 years, now living in Medellin for over 10 years and still traveling to every city and town and pueblo in Colombia. Have had probably 1,000 Colombian women, most great experiences along with a handful of horrific ones but only a handful so good odds, have had Colombian GF's lasting from 2 weeks to 2 years with Colombians from every different region, and my biggest trouble is not wanting to fall in love with some of these beauties, not bragging but still (if I wanted) get 3 to 5 whatsapps from chicas just about every time I venture into Medellin on the metro or in a restaurant or a shop, that's the beauty of life here full time. You have no idea.
Back on point never forget the cardinal rule with most Colombian women, "she is not YOUR girl rather it's just YOUR turn".
Carry on grasshopper.
The Tall Man.
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PigSavinBoy
08-25-23, 00:56
The Tall Man has been everywhere in Colombia over the past 30 years of travel here, yep 30 years, now living in Medellin for over 10 years and still traveling to every city and town and pueblo in Colombia. Have had probably 1,000 Colombian women, most great experiences along with a handful of horrific ones but only a handful so good odds, have had Colombian GF's lasting from 2 weeks to 2 years with Colombians from every different region, and my biggest trouble is not wanting to fall in love with some of these beauties, not bragging but still (if I wanted) get 3 to 5 whatsapps from chicas just about every time I venture into Medellin on the metro or in a restaurant or a shop, that's the beauty of life here full time. You have no idea.
Back on point never forget the cardinal rule with most Colombian women, "she is not YOUR girl rather it's just YOUR turn".
Carry on grasshopper.
The Tall Man.
Damn, that's a lot of experience.
General tips on getting Colombian GFs? Except being Tall hah.
...still traveling to every city and town and pueblo in Colombia.
Is there a P4 P venues scene (casas, strip clubs) in pueblos and small towns or is it a city thing?
Mr Enternational
08-25-23, 02:09
General tips on getting Colombian GFs? Except being Tall hah.Talk with them the same you would any other woman on the planet. A grown man needs tips on how to get a girlfriend? Two people meet, they talk, they like each other.
PigSavinBoy
08-25-23, 16:00
Talk with them the same you would any other woman on the planet. A grown man needs tips on how to get a girlfriend? Two people meet, they talk, they like each other.No cultural differences in picking up Latinas vs western women? My Spanish isn't there yet anyway but wondering.
LatinaLover#1
08-26-23, 02:46
Went to exchange yesterday, no cabrios in Cartegena wanted to budge over 3700.The Cambios will never give you the real exchange rate, they will always carve out 3 or 4 points depending on the cambio. Some ATM's will get you a better rate but add in the fees, anyway you look at it you always get dinged.
No cultural differences in picking up Latinas vs western women? My Spanish isn't there yet anyway but wondering.The key to getting a girlfriend in Colombia is having something to offer long term that she will go gaga over, that and speak Spanish. It's not Saudi Arabia, so cultural difference can be smoothed over.
Mr Enternational
08-26-23, 03:48
No cultural differences in picking up Latinas vs western women? My Spanish isn't there yet anyway but wondering.People are people and are more the same than different. Culture has nothing to do with talking to people. You have to start with the Spanish you have and learn it one word at a time the same as you did English. My first time in Colombia I could only say hola. But time and practice works wonders. Most of my practice came and still comes from meeting chicks online and writing with them for the last 18 years.
Mr Enternational
08-26-23, 03:55
The key to getting a girlfriend in Colombia is having something to offer long term that she will go gaga over, that and speak Spanish.I beg to differ. Even when I did not speak Spanish, all I ever did was be myself. I have never offered any normal chick anything besides knowing me. If you are looking for a girlfriend that is a hooker then of course you would need to offer them things like money. But if you stop hanging around hookers then you would not think like a trick. Believing you have to have something to offer is trick thinking.
I beg to differ. Even when I did not speak Spanish, all I ever did was be myself. I have never offered any normal chick anything besides knowing me. If you are looking for a girlfriend that is a hooker then of course you would need to offer them things like money. But if you stop hanging around hookers then you would not think like a trick. Believing you have to have something to offer is trick thinking.Why do these women take you up as a boyfriend when you claim to not give them anything in return but your mere presence? What do they value in you just being yourself? Who pays for dinner and outings? Probably we are not all as charismatic as you or good looking. Some guys need to pay cold hard cash and speak intelligibly.
Mr Enternational
08-29-23, 08:21
Why do these women take you up as a boyfriend when you claim to not give them anything in return but your mere presence? What do they value in you just being yourself? Who pays for dinner and outings? Probably we are not all as charismatic as you or good looking. Some guys need to pay cold hard cash and speak intelligibly.Why do you assume there has to be a quid pro quo? A lot of guys on this site act like they have never had a girlfriend that they did not have to buy. If that is the case then it is indeed a sad case. A person does not have to do anything special to have a normal girlfriend (from my lifelong experience anyway.) Hell, even when I was married my wife made more money than me and already had the house that we lived in. Sorry I just do not see it as anything special to get chicks. Elementary, high school, university, military. In none of my stages of life has women been a problem. The same goes for all my friends and associates. How is this some mystery or out of reach task for you guys?
If you think getting a girlfriend is something then I could really tell you some stories about just hooking up with random strangers. Like the time me and my boy were in New Orleans and some chicks were getting in their car on Bourbon Street and we got in their back seat saying we are going too. That turned out to be a wild night. Or my first time in Los Angeles many moons ago when me and my shipmate met some chicks outside of Del Amo mall and we went out with them that night and ended up staying at their apartment in Watts.
Gentlemen,
Then you are not in the right Forum if you are looking for girlfriends. The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
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It is my personal opinion that some individuals on this forum use confusing terminology. There are lots of ways to get sex from a girl. Money is simply one of them. There is nothing wrong with dating. But it takes time, energy (and in my opinion) money. Some would have us believe that they simply walk up to a girl and present themselves and panties drop. Nah, brother it does not happen that way. You have to develop your personality, that ability to talk to girls, your persona style, and the more money you have the easier it gets. You do not have to lead with money. The the signals that you have it, like jewelry, nice cell phone, nice digs where you stay all signal to the natural instinct of girls to get with you.
I've also been married two a girl to made more money than I have. And if anyone try to tell you that their wife paid for EVERYTHING that is well (in my opinion) in accurate. Image going up to you wife and asking her for 100 USD so you can buy her and anniversary present. LOL!
Personality plays into all human interactions. Especially with girls. Not all prostitutes will take your money. And all prostitutes are fucking someone who is not paying them. Furthermore, all quote un quote normal girls will fuck for money when they need to. The long running discussion in the threads of may countries is what is the definition of a prostitute. Some think is a bright line definition. I happen to believe that it is not. Because any real man who is not deluding himself knows that he does not know what his girlfriend of wife is doing when she is outside of his eye sight. Believe you me, I have fucked enough girlfriends and wives on the down low to tell you that is absolute fact.
And the only time I have ever been burned in the fuck game is when I had girlfriends I was raw dogging. Never with a prostitute and I have gone head in naked on plenty of them and flooded the zone. Prostitutes are easy. Everyone knows where the hos are at. Normal girls take work. No man should base his total sex life on one or the other. They both serve their purposes. The purpose of the forum is to share information on how to have sex with girls. I have many girls that I have sex with all over the world. Some of which I call my girlfriend. One of which lives in Medellin, Colombia. Ask me if I give her money for expenses. My answer is yes. Am I going to let someone define her as my prostitute? Nah, never happen.
Cheep charles of the world will never live like me and my brother who travel the world and fuck girls where ever we are at. If what you read does not pass the smell test. Don't pay any attention about it and do what works best for you. Do not be a repeat offender of Man Law 101: No man is going to tell another man how to spend his hard earn money or who to fuck.
Why do these women take you up as a boyfriend when you claim to not give them anything in return but your mere presence? What do they value in you just being yourself? Who pays for dinner and outings? Probably we are not all as charismatic as you or good looking. Some guys need to pay cold hard cash and speak intelligibly.
It is my personal opinion that some individuals on this forum use confusing terminology. There are lots of ways to get sex from a girl. Money is simply one of them. There is nothing wrong with dating. But it takes time, energy (and in my opinion) money. Some would have us believe that they simply walk up to a girl and present themselves and panties drop. Nah, brother it does not happen that way. You have to develop your personality, that ability to talk to girls, your persona style, and the more money you have the easier it gets. You do not have to lead with money. The the signals that you have it, like jewelry, nice cell phone, nice digs where you stay all signal to the natural instinct of girls to get with you.
I've also been married two a girl to made more money than I have. And if anyone try to tell you that their wife paid for EVERYTHING that is well (in my opinion) in accurate. Image going up to you wife and asking her for 100 USD so you can buy her and anniversary present. LOL!
Personality plays into all human interactions. Especially with girls. Not all prostitutes will take your money. And all prostitutes are fucking someone who is not paying them. Furthermore, all quote un quote normal girls will fuck for money when they need to. The long running discussion in the threads of may countries is what is the definition of a prostitute. Some think is a bright line definition. I happen to believe that it is not. Because any real man who is not deluding himself knows that he does not know what his girlfriend of wife is doing when she is outside of his eye sight. Believe you me, I have fucked enough girlfriends and wives on the down low to tell you that is absolute fact.
And the only time I have ever been burned in the fuck game is when I had girlfriends I was raw dogging. Never with a prostitute and I have gone head in naked on plenty of them and flooded the zone. Prostitutes are easy. Everyone knows where the hos are at. Normal girls take work. No man should base his total sex life on one or the other. They both serve their purposes. The purpose of the forum is to share information on how to have sex with girls. I have many girls that I have sex with all over the world. Some of which I call my girlfriend. One of which lives in Medellin, Colombia. Ask me if I give her money for expenses. My answer is yes. Am I going to let someone define her as my prostitute? Nah, never happen.
Cheep charles of the world will never live like me and my brother who travel the world and fuck girls where ever we are at. If what you read does not pass the smell test. Don't pay any attention about it and do what works best for you. Do not be a repeat offender of Man Law 101: No man is going to tell another man how to spend his hard earn money or who to fuck.Don't believe anything on the internet. There is a guy on you tube, John Anthony Lifestyle, that claims to have slept with 1700 women, but like Mr E, always claims he doesn't pay for any of them. They aren't prostitutes he says. All regular girls. He sells courses to simps on how to talk to girls. LOL. Anyone that's been with regular girls, knows how much work you need to put in, as a non celebrity, to sleep with that many girls. Impossible. Coincidentally, all his videos are of him hooking up with girls from mongering countries. Why is it that all of these studs that sleep with all these regular girls are always in countries that are known for sex tourism and they don't speak English, and the guys don't speak Spanish. Why aren't these Romeos that can talk any girls pants off doing it in LA or Miami. Paying for sex is so much easier, which is why we all do it.
Naked Gunz
08-31-23, 09:54
Navigating a woman's head games, and her desire to separate me from my money is not worth the chase like it used to be. After 64 years of life, 50 countries and about a 700 body count I don't lead with money, I end with it by putting as little as I can in her greedy hand as she heads out the door. If it was good I will call her again. I then proceed happily to a drink, a pizza, my movie, my life.
If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?
I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.
That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, in Bogota near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (presented about 8 chicas). I would go again, still a good deal for me. Some guys will walk out when not finding something of their liking, and that's their right to so do. But i'm not too picky--even if there's only one chick, I'll go with that one chick and make it work, hehe. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as another other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.
JackTaggart
09-01-23, 04:40
If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?
I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.
That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, the one near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (there were about 8 or so). I would go again, still good deal for me. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as one other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.I've been multiple times in the last few weeks. And last year & early this year. I went today / Thursday to Spa and it was the same 50 k for 30 minutes as always. As of last week bar was 60 k for 30 minutes.
For an hour 100 k makes sense. But there's certainly no requirement for that. The jeffe at bar hassled me about not doing an hour one time, but the girl didn't care.
Mr Enternational
09-01-23, 06:14
If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?
I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.Why does there have to be an either or? Today I am on my motorbike. Does that mean I should not want to ride my bicycle later or drive my car tomorrow?
I went to a party last night where there was advertised FREE FOOD! Should I had been skeptical that someone was just trying to lure me in to get something from me? Does that mean I should not want to pay for food today? I should just around for the rest of my life looking for places that I can get free food?
Hell, after the party with FREE food I was offered to go to a concert for FREE. Had I not gone with those chicks then it would have been $15. Then to add insult to injury the chicks wanted to ply me with FREE drinks! The nerve of them. I kept trying to leave to go pick up another chick but they kept filling my glass with Jack Daniels and ice. What do I owe them if this is quid pro quo? From now on should I go around only looking for free concerts and free drinks instead of paying for them since it was all free last night?
You do what you want when you want. There does not have to be an "if you do it this way then you should never want to do it that way".
If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?
I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.
That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, in Bogota near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (presented about 8 chicas). I would go again, still a good deal for me. Some guys will walk out when not finding something of their liking, and that's their right to so do. But i'm not too picky--even if there's only one chick, I'll go with that one chick and make it work, hehe. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as another other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.Why bother with mongering? I can think of a few reasons.
1. Especially as you get older, the free options tend to go downhill, or require too much time and effort. Although, in countries like Colombia, the options for free tend to be better and easier.
2. Minimal expectations from pros. They expect to be paid, that's about it. Free options often expect something more than just sex.
3. Less games and drama. At least usually.
Mr Enternational
09-01-23, 07:55
Don't believe anything on the internet. There is a guy on you tube, John Anthony Lifestyle, that claims to have slept with 1700 women, but like Mr E, always claims he doesn't pay for any of them. When did I ever claim that? I claim that I do not pay chicks that are not hookers. HOOKERS I PAY! Hard for me to believe on the internet that it seems to be a great feat to sleep with normal women. Should I really believe that to be not true or is that incel shit real afterall? Maybe I am too busy talking to normal chicks and getting to know them instead of watching how other guys are living on youtube.
I do not believe people have been to the moon and it is not because I have not been able to do it myself, the way some of you guys don't believe someone else has done something on the basis that you have not been able to do it. I just left the scuba shop getting some gear repaired. The guy asked if I wanted to try my hand at fixing my BCD. I told him that I know a lot of shit about a lot of things; I know nothing about fixing scuba gear. Or should I have told him I do not believe it is possible to fix scuba gear because I have never done it?
... but like Mr E, always claims he doesn't pay for any of them. ....There is a Brazilian song called Esperando na janela. To me he is just telling me not to be that man in the song. He never said his successful rate is 100%. Many men will give up after 10 tries and maybe he does not give up so that is another way to look at it. He does p4 p too. Mr E speaks Spanish and Portuguese.
LionBacker
09-01-23, 17:16
I've been multiple times in the last few weeks. And last year & early this year. I went today / Thursday to Spa and it was the same 50 k for 30 minutes as always. As of last week bar was 60 k for 30 minutes.
For an hour 100 k makes sense. But there's certainly no requirement for that. The jeffe at bar hassled me about not doing an hour one time, but the girl didn't care.Are there two Tantra's in medellin? I only know of one on ave 80.
Why bother with mongering? I can think of a few reasons.
1. Especially as you get older, the free options tend to go downhill, or require too much time and effort. Although, in countries like Colombia, the options for free tend to be better and easier.
2. Minimal expectations from pros. They expect to be paid, that's about it. Free options often expect something more than just sex.
3. Less games and drama. At least usually.Why did Beiber pay for sex. Why did tiger woods pay for sex. It's just easier even for them.
StudPlayer
09-01-23, 23:21
Brazil or Thailand?
This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.
Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?
We all know the world has undergone radical changes since the advent of the internet and covid as has the world of paid (there is no unpaid) pussy undergone radical changes in the same period.
Twenty years ago when I first landed in Colombia it was a no brainer to move here in retirement.
Spacious Penthouse apartment in Provenza for usd 20 thousand. Clean air, clean water, clean young and abundant chicas everywhere on the street, little traffic etc.
Back then there were more chicas per square meter per second than you or anyone could have ever imagined.
It makes today's Colombia look like a wasteland.
Things change. That's just how it is.
Those days are just a legend now. You guys coming to Colombia today are just chasing a legend.
Today if coming for the first time I would decide not to live here (I have lived here for the last twenty years.).
Yeah it has been a good ride but it is over and time to move on.
Today there are more hombres (that means men for you all here who don't speak Spanish), gringos and locals, per square meter per second than is cool. Totally uncool here now. You walk down the crowded streets here now you are rubbing shoulders with men and only men.
You can do that in the states I hear.
You go out on the streets now in Colombia and you are surrounded by men. Yeah there are some old hag women here and there but you know, maybe you don't know, that's it.
That is not how it used to be. This place is a shadow of what it once was and won't ever be again especially with the new visa rules for Colombianas who can now travel freely to europe and usa and anywhere really. And they are leaving getting out of this third world country moving into harems in the arab world, into the Fkks of Europe, anywhere but Colombia now.
The girls have always wanted out and now they can go and they are going. And they have gone.
For this reason there is high demand and scarce supply of good looking chicas now in Colombia.
And the danger now of scopolamine is omnipresent. Some chica out of my past contacted me out of the blue I had to say no thanks. First she was old and used up and secondly why the F now does she want to come over to my house. No thanks.
For safety reasons, I will only go to casas now. For those of you who don't know, casas are the massage parlors like New Life and all the rest where now you no longer have fresh 18 year olds but only washed older women.
They still fuck but they are not the same as they used to be.
Same thing that happened to Costa Rica happened here starting about 10 or more years ago.
Aussie Greg said it about a decade ago when he wrote something to the effect that Colombia had become just another Costa Rica or to that effect.
So my question to those who might have recent knowledge: which is better taking into consideration distances, fun, governance, danger, freedoms, chicas, infrastructure, visa regulations, local health care, local health insurance, quality of life, etc, which is better for a us citizen, Thailand or Brazil and where specifically in each?
In all these categories above Colombia has gone to hell to the point I would not recommend anyone move here.
I have narrowed down my next move to either Brazil or Thailand and I will be renting an apartment long term where I decide to settle next. Any specific ideas? Place must be fairly new and have hot water, a real nice pool and good modern air conditioning. No third world shit.
Brazil or Thailand? I am leaning towards Brazil.
Which is cooler in temperature, Rio or S. P. ? Or your suggestion?
Tell me, tell us, your experiences.
And to make a positive contribution to this forum for anyone who just has to move to Medellin and buy an apartment my advice is to buy in el centro on the uphill side of Avenida Oriental where there are some nice places or over by Villanueva.
Choose your favorite. It is still better than sex prison.
JackTaggart
09-02-23, 00:18
Are there two Tantra's in medellin? I only know of one on ave 80.I was responding assuming he was talking about Tantra Spa in Bogota since that is on Calle 72. Tantra bar is right next door to it.
It's amazing how some Westerners will go to developing countries, try to mooch off the locals, getting free rides and stuff, and brag about it as if some great accomplishment. Parasitism comes in many forms. In contrast, the Venezuelans arrive at host coutries with nothing but clothes on their back, work hard selling empanadas in the street, plus whoring, etc.
I talked to a Venezuelan working gal the other day, she claims she want to go the United States. She has friends who are currently crossing the Darien jungle gap, hoping to make it to Mexico then seek asylum in the US if they can make it to Ciudad Juarez. It seems this is the new trend among Venezuelans, to aim for the big time, the fabled US-of-A. News reports indicate that in the last year there has been a massive surge in Venezuelans (as well as Cubans) entering Mexico (as well as the US to lesser extent). Those who are able get to the US tend to go to Florida. Many Venezuelans not able to stay in the US are are settling in Mexico City. Perhaps we will not have to go all the way to Colombia to romance these Venezuelan cuties, Mexico City is shorter hop from the States.
Mr Enternational
09-02-23, 03:35
It's amazing how some Westerners will go to developing countries, try to mooch off the locals, getting free rides and stuff, and brag about it as if some great accomplishment. Parasitism comes in many forms.It is really sad for someone to go around in life not being able to experience genuine generosity, kindness, and affection from others. The world is not all about money and not everyone needs or wants your money.
Time for more bragging. When I was in Egypt during Ramadan at the time to break fast random people invited me and my friends inside of their homes to eat with them. We do not speak Arabic and they did not speak English. We were just walking down a random street and a bell started ringing around 6 pm and people came out dragging us inside. The other day I took my pants for a minor repair here in Thailand and the lady said it would be FREE!
Yes I have been talking about random acts of kindness that people have done for me. I have never felt a need to talk about random acts of kindness that I do for other people. So maybe that is seen as mooching. Nevermind the border patrol agents I saw at the McDonald's at the Tijuana border. While other mfs are always angry and showing disdain towards them, gentlemen thanks for everything you do. Your food is on me.
Recently saw a guy with a weird haircut in line to pay at a barbecue restaurant. Hey man what branch? Army. Thanks for serving. Your money is no good here. Put his on my card. Seen five young airport workers buying ice cream at the Dairy Queen in the Hat Yai airport 2 days ago. Hey thanks for your hard work. That is on me!
What about the guy in Manila I saw living up against a building. He had carved out a little nook for himself. He had flowers in pots and everything. What caught my attention was that he was sweeping around his place trying to keep it clean. Here dude here is $20 to buy something for yourself. Good goes around. It is not a one-way street. Why do some Westerners feel they need to buy everybody or that life must be quid pro quo? Everybody is not a hooker that you must give money to in exchange for sex and that does not give 2 shits about you other than your money. Get out and live and get to know people and you will soon realize this.
Brazil or Thailand?
This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.
Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?
We all know the world has undergone radical changes since the advent of the internet and covid as has the world of paid (there is no unpaid) pussy undergone radical changes in the same period.
Twenty years ago when I first landed in Colombia it was a no brainer to move here in retirement.
Spacious Penthouse apartment in Provenza for usd 20 thousand. Clean air, clean water, clean young and abundant chicas everywhere on the street, little traffic etc.
Back then there were more chicas per square meter per second than you or anyone could have ever imagined.
It makes today's Colombia look like a wasteland.
Things change. That's just how it is.
Those days are just a legend now. You guys coming to Colombia today are just chasing a legend.
Today if coming for the first time I would decide not to live here (I have lived here for the last twenty years.).
Yeah it has been a good ride but it is over and time to move on.People aren't afraid to come to Colombia anymore. That's why it was so great 20 years ago. My first time in Medellin was great. Second time was okay and third time, two years ago, sucked. If Colombians are allowed to come to America without major issues, then it's definitely over. These girls will see their worth after one day walking around Vegas Miami or LOS Angeles.
Brazil will always be a top destination. You can always count on their government being incompetent and screwing up everything. Copa will always be full of energy in the daytime, nice waves to boogie board or surf, cheap fruit drinks. Medellin is so boring in comparison. I will probably start going out there one month at a time in late 2024.
Captain Solo
09-02-23, 14:14
Stud,
Brazilians are harsh, no fun, life is plain, food average, too much crimes in most cities.
Thais are genuinely kind, easy-going, more fun, food is diverse, creative and delish, cities are much safer. From BKK you can fly very cheap to many destinations in Asia with interesting and unique cultures.
Thailand wins.
This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.
Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?
Mr Enternational
09-02-23, 21:18
Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?Damn I am finally agreeing with Solo on something. I moved from Brazil to Thailand 14 years ago because things went downhill when they announced the Olympics and World Cup. I still visit Brazil often but I would not want to live there. Thailand is way cheaper too. My rent has been the same $125/ month for the last 14 years.
From Sao Paulo to Rio they play games with the price on that 50 minute flight making you pay $300 and $400 on some bullshit. In Thailand at anytime you can go online to Nok Air and get a $50 flight anywhere in the country. Spur of the moment me and this chick decided we wanted to take a trip the next day. Ticket was way cheap. Also cheap 3 hour flight from here to the Philippines if that place floats your boat.
I really like how it is service oriented here as well. Problem with my computer I can take it right up to the shop and they will be like we will call you back in 1 hour. Then it will cost like $10. Something wrong with my motorbike I can drive it up to the shop and they can fix damn near anything on it quick and fast and it will be like $6. Once I stood there 45 minutes while they damn near took the whole thing apart and put it back together.
Today I went and got a 3 hour real massage for $15. I also fucked the girl and with her tip for the massage portion was an extra $24. I will usually tip $1. 50 to $3 for each hour of massage. I sent that shit to her in a bank transfer too. That is another thing I like about here. Anywhere you go you can just scan with the bank app to pay. Then Lazada is like the Amazon of Thailand. Things I order arrive in like 2 days (unless it is coming from China) and in most cases it is 1/3 or less of the price of Amazon and it will be the exact same product.
Also here in Pattaya is full of expats so if you need advice or help or just want to hang out then there are thousands of people from all over the world.
Brazil or Thailand?
This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.
Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?
We all know the world has undergone radical changes since the advent of the internet and covid as has the world of paid (there is no unpaid) pussy undergone radical changes in the same period.
Twenty years ago when I first landed in Colombia it was a no brainer to move here in retirement.
Spacious Penthouse apartment in Provenza for usd 20 thousand. Clean air, clean water, clean young and abundant chicas everywhere on the street, little traffic etc.
Back then there were more chicas per square meter per second than you or anyone could have ever imagined.b
It makes today's Colombia look like a wasteland.
Choose your favorite. It is still better than sex prison.I think Brasil is the best country in the World for our hobby. That said, for living somewhere (especially if you're say over 50), I'd probably go with Thailand. Brasil, like most of Latin America, is just too dangerous. While I've never been a victim, I've had some close calls. In both Brasil and Colombia. And the older one gets, the harder it is to dodge dangerous situations.
Explorer8939
09-03-23, 01:19
Stud,
Brazilians are harsh, no fun, life is plain, food average, too much crimes in most cities.
Thais are genuinely kind, easy-going, more fun, food is diverse, creative and delish, cities are much safer. From BKK you can fly very cheap to many destinations in Asia with interesting and unique cultures.
Thailand wins.
This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.
Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?I live in Thailand, but spend January in Brazil every year.
I am thinking of switching my holiday to Medellin next January, but the reports are very sketchy.
At StudPlayer: Have you considered moving out of Meddy into another location in Colombia? If you like latinas, how are you attracted to thai girls? Brazil is a higher cost and much higher reward country in my view compared to Thailand. Thailand has falling births, oppressive climate, serious political risks, dubious legal system, limitations to real estate ownership, banking, etc. It will be much easier to learn Portuguese and adapt to local culture than learn Thai. The sex scene in Brazil is top notch in all areas imagined.
I think Brasil is the best country in the World for our hobby. That said, for living somewhere (especially if you're say over 50), I'd probably go with Thailand. Brasil, like most of Latin America, is just too dangerous. While I've never been a victim, I've had some close calls. In both Brasil and Colombia. And the older one gets, the harder it is to dodge dangerous situations.Take cabs door to door from clubs and termas. Try not to walk much at night in Brazil. Uber is cheaper, but it takes longer while you're sitting outside with your phone. Do that and you should be safe.
...Yes I have been talking about random acts of kindness that people have done for me. I .....I took the wrong bus in Salvador around 9 PM from the central station in Lapa, I did not know it was one of the most dangerous cities. I hopped on the bus in a hurry while it was leaving without checking carefully where it was actually going. I knew something was wrong when it started to go up and down the hills. LOL. The general direction was correct but the final stop was on a hill near a favela type neighborhood. I told the conductor where I wanted to go and asked if they could drop me off anywhere safe on their way back so I could get a taxi or Uber. They took me to a major street, then the conductor told me to get off and he ran to the middle of road to stop another bus that was going to my destination. I was amazed what they did for me. Another time I had to go from low city to high city and the elevator required a toll of are $0. 1. I had are $20 and I was dreaded to take the elevator because I did not bring change. They just waved me thru without paying. When I just arrived, occasionally I got a thumb up gesture from random people who cross my path. The first time I was thinking what he wants from me. LOL. Then I got used to the friendliness.
I went to a famous speakeasy bar around Recoleta, Buenos Aires. I was asked to sit on outside table and wasn't allowed enter the bar for whatever reason. I am not a drinker and I just wanted to checkout inside so I left stopped a short distance away to text a friend There was a homeless guy begging outside but no one gave him anything. I pull out a huge stack of bills and pull a few to give to him. Next thing I knew, some guy from the bar chased me down and invited me into the bar. He talked to the bouncer for a while then I was in. I am still wondering if it is related to that I gave money to the homeless because it's not the first time I tried to get into this bar.
Stud,
Brazilians are harsh, no fun, life is plain, food average, too much crimes in most cities.
Thais are genuinely kind, easy-going, more fun, food is diverse, creative and delish, cities are much safer. From BKK you can fly very cheap to many destinations in Asia with interesting and unique cultures.
Thailand wins.
This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.
Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?Brazil taxes your worldwide income at 33% if you become a resident (over 183 days per year in the country).
Damn I am finally agreeing with Solo on something. I moved from Brazil to Thailand 14 years ago because things went downhill when they announced the Olympics and World Cup. I still visit Brazil often but I would not want to live there. Thailand is way cheaper too. My rent has been the same $125/ month for the last 14 years.
From Sao Paulo to Rio they play games with the price on that 50 minute flight making you pay $300 and $400 on some bullshit. In Thailand at anytime you can go online to Nok Air and get a $50 flight anywhere in the country. Spur of the moment me and this chick decided we wanted to take a trip the next day. Ticket was way cheap. Also cheap 3 hour flight from here to the Philippines if that place floats your boat.
I really like how it is service oriented here as well. Problem with my computer I can take it right up to the shop and they will be like we will call you back in 1 hour. Then it will cost like $10. Something wrong with my motorbike I can drive it up to the shop and they can fix damn near anything on it quick and fast and it will be like $6. Once I stood there 45 minutes while they damn near took the whole thing apart and put it back together.
Today I went and got a 3 hour real massage for $15. I also fucked the girl and with her tip for the massage portion was an extra $24. I will usually tip $1. 50 to $3 for each hour of massage. I sent that shit to her in a bank transfer too. That is another thing I like about here. Anywhere you go you can just scan with the bank app to pay. Then Lazada is like the Amazon of Thailand. Things I order arrive in like 2 days (unless it is coming from China) and in most cases it is 1/3 or less of the price of Amazon and it will be the exact same product.
Also here in Pattaya is full of expats so if you need advice or help or just want to hang out then there are thousands of people from all over the world.Crime is a real issue in Brazil (as it is in his beloved Tijuana I note). I would say that if one likes Thai girls as much or more than Brasilieras (I don't) and / or if the cost of living would be an issue for you (Thailand is so much cheaper), then yes choose Thailand. But if those little flat chested, flat ass Thai girls just aren't going to do it for you (yeah, yeah I know what you say Mr. E but my experience tells me different) and if you're not mackin' on a tight budget, then go with Brazil! You can deal with the crime just by using some basic common sense and by being "street smart". I mean it's not that bad to where it's simply not manageable. It also helps me that I can easily pass for being Brazilian, which helps to fly under the radar a lot.
They are insanely flakey.
I've had many flake on me but some how I always end up matching with their friend in one of their group photos they had on their profile and when their friend video call them and sees me in the background they get super salty and all of a sudden want to meet me, and I just decline and keep the friend jajaja.
Good you had a great encounter. Very risky meeting 2 girls by yourself. I wouldn't do that with new girls at all especially when solo.
Be careful out there and enjoy your time.I forgot to check this after returning back home. Ill say I had a good time in Colombia for my first time solo traveling. I was in Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena, and Cucuta. As I said I had a prepago in Medellin and met up with one of the cam girls I wanted to meet. The rest of the cities I ended up with another cam girl that I flew out to Bogota and accompanied me through out my whole trip and went back to her place in Cucuta. Lmao I'm a crazy SOB for trusting that girl that much but luckily she meant well and we had fun she even took me to some clubs in Cucuta and met her friends and met some girls on the streets as well. I had so much punani it was insane. Luckily since the girl I met that lives in Cucuta is pretty much an actual friend now, I have someone I can crash with if anything and who doesn't mind following me around while I meet other girls. I only had one bad encounter and it was with cops in Cucuta mfs were being rude luckily they let me go. I'm kinda glad I invested in some cam girls. I've still yet to go to Cali to meet a few other cam girls hopefully for the holidays ill be in Colombia again.
BigButtDetecto
09-27-23, 20:24
Brazil taxes your worldwide income at 33% if you become a resident (over 183 days per year in the country).Colombia does that too.
Ornitomovil
09-30-23, 22:56
After three marriages, many girlfriends and 15 plus trips to Colombia, IMHO, this is a very precise and balanced view.
It is my personal opinion that some individuals on this forum use confusing terminology. There are lots of ways to get sex from a girl. Money is simply one of them. There is nothing wrong with dating. But it takes time, energy (and in my opinion) money. Some would have us believe that they simply walk up to a girl and present themselves and panties drop. Nah, brother it does not happen that way. You have to develop your personality, that ability to talk to girls, your persona style, and the more money you have the easier it gets. You do not have to lead with money. The the signals that you have it, like jewelry, nice cell phone, nice digs where you stay all signal to the natural instinct of girls to get with you.
I've also been married two a girl to made more money than I have. And if anyone try to tell you that their wife paid for EVERYTHING that is well (in my opinion) in accurate. Image going up to you wife and asking her for 100 USD so you can buy her and anniversary present. LOL!
Personality plays into all human interactions. Especially with girls. Not all prostitutes will take your money. And all prostitutes are fucking someone who is not paying them. Furthermore, all quote un quote normal girls will fuck for money when they need to. The long running discussion in the threads of may countries is what is the definition of a prostitute. Some think is a bright line definition. I happen to believe that it is not. Because any real man who is not deluding himself knows that he does not know what his girlfriend of wife is doing when she is outside of his eye sight. Believe you me, I have fucked enough girlfriends and wives on the down low to tell you that is absolute fact.
And the only time I have ever been burned in the fuck game is when I had girlfriends I was raw dogging. Never with a prostitute and I have gone head in naked on plenty of them and flooded the zone. Prostitutes are easy. Everyone knows where the hos are at. Normal girls take work. No man should base his total sex life on one or the other. They both serve their purposes. The purpose of the forum is to share information on how to have sex with girls. I have many girls that I have sex with all over the world. Some of which I call my girlfriend. One of which lives in Medellin, Colombia. Ask me if I give her money for expenses. My answer is yes. Am I going to let someone define her as my prostitute? Nah, never happen.
Cheep charles of the world will never live like me and my brother who travel the world and fuck girls where ever we are at. If what you read does not pass the smell test. Don't pay any attention about it and do what works best for you. Do not be a repeat offender of Man Law 101: No man is going to tell another man how to spend his hard earn money or who to fuck.
Mr Enternational
10-05-23, 03:38
Arrived in Bogota and as usual did not fill out the check mig. Nobody said anything about it. Went down to pick up my bag and go to the Colpatria ATM as usual. Saw the sign on the exchange place. 3,900 pesos for $1. Looked at my Schwab for the 920,000 I just took out and it was minus $219.94. So exchange of 4182.95 for using the ATM.
On the other side of that exchange booth was a Claro SIM card booth. First the guy was not there but left some phones and SIMs. I came back after getting my bag and checked the prices. 60 K for a SIM for 1 week. With 12 gb, unlimited social media, and unlimited calls in Colombia. I told him damn that is expensive. I bought mine for 10 K. He started laughing like you know the deal.
LoveItHere
10-18-23, 05:50
This trip I did not receive a "WELCOME TO Colombia" message from Google FI. Within 2 weeks I could not use my Mobile Data. There was a "No SIM Card" message. "Emergency calls only" message. Super rare for a SIM to go bad. Had a new SIM shipped to friend in USA and then to Colombia. This SIM lasted about 3 weeks. My guess is that Colombian cell phone towers and Google FI no longer have an agreement and thus killing FI's connections. Looks like I will have to get a local SIM is the answer.
I know there are other Google FI users here. Any problems? How did you fix?
Saw the sign on the exchange place. 3,900 pesos for $1. Looked at my Schwab for the 920,000 I just took out and it was minus $219.94. So exchange of 4182.95 for using the ATM.Where? In the Airport? Of course the worst rates and prices occur there. But thanks for the confirmation of what everyone already knows. Speaking only on behalf of myself, I appreciate it. LOL!
Triple Darknes
10-19-23, 02:28
This trip I did not receive a "WELCOME TO Colombia" message from Google FI. Within 2 weeks I could not use my Mobile Data. There was a "No SIM Card" message. "Emergency calls only" message. Super rare for a SIM to go bad. Had a new SIM shipped to friend in USA and then to Colombia. This SIM lasted about 3 weeks. My guess is that Colombian cell phone towers and Google FI no longer have an agreement and thus killing FI's connections. Looks like I will have to get a local SIM is the answer.
I know there are other Google FI users here. Any problems? How did you fix?Basically what happened is that Google sees that you're in Colombia and they're not competing against the Colombian Cell Phone carriers.
If you need to call back to the states use Skype.
It's cheaper to boot.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
This trip I did not receive a "WELCOME TO Colombia" message from Google FI. Within 2 weeks I could not use my Mobile Data. There was a "No SIM Card" message. "Emergency calls only" message. Super rare for a SIM to go bad. Had a new SIM shipped to friend in USA and then to Colombia. This SIM lasted about 3 weeks. My guess is that Colombian cell phone towers and Google FI no longer have an agreement and thus killing FI's connections. Looks like I will have to get a local SIM is the answer.
I know there are other Google FI users here. Any problems? How did you fix?What you wrote doesn't make sense.
Haven't read about Google FI cancelling their roaming agreement with the providers in any of the 200+ countries. Why would the service work for 2, then 3 weeks, before going bad. Logically, the only reason I can think of with the facts you wrote is that the SIM slot of your phone is going bad.
The "No SIM Card" message would be displayed when the phone cannot find a SIM in its slot. Don't know why it would display that message if Google FI/Claro did stop its service.
I'm thinking of changing my service from T-Mobile to Google FI (Mainly because you get fast data in 200+ countries already priced in). But the problem is that I need 4 Google FI lines to drop the price to what I am paying now with T-Mobile. I hate have slow data when I get off the airplane. And I hate going to Andino Mall to recharge; I couldn't recharge using the Claro App on my phone. It rejected my credit card.
What you wrote doesn't make sense.
Haven't read about Google FI cancelling their roaming agreement with the providers in any of the 200+ countries. Why would the service work for 2, then 3 weeks, before going bad. Logically, the only reason I can think of with the facts you wrote is that the SIM slot of your phone is going bad.
The "No SIM Card" message would be displayed when the phone cannot find a SIM in its slot. Don't know why it would display that message if Google FI/Claro did stop its service.
I'm thinking of changing my service from T-Mobile to Google FI (Mainly because you get fast data in 200+ countries already priced in). But the problem is that I need 4 Google FI lines to drop the price to what I am paying now with T-Mobile. I hate have slow data when I get off the airplane. And I hate going to Andino Mall to recharge; I couldn't recharge using the Claro App on my phone. It rejected my credit card.You can use this third party app called ding to recharge claro or Tigo with a US credit or debit card. You just want to make sure you recharge before you completely run out of data. (If that happens you will need to use Wi-Fi to recharge or recharge with cash at a gana or many of the papeleria shops).
I have a dual Sim phone with a telcel sim from Mexico and and a Tigo sim from Colombia. I use Ding to recharge my Tigo line before I step foot on the Wingo plane in Cancun and when I arrive in Medellin I switch over to my Tigo sim for data sms and calls and I have service before I even get off of the airplane.
I don't know what fast means to you guys but when I download movies from piratebay / utorrent I get speeds of up to 10 mbps thru the data. And I also get 39 gb of data for 31 k COP (but they give you less if you haven't been with Tigo for at least 12 months).
My iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 has the capability for multiple e-sims. Please review the Apple website for more information on that. I have multiple e-sims in multiple countries. T-mobile offers excellent plans, one of which use. So, I am quite comfortable in my international travel using my US based number. I have nothing to hide. I do not live in Colombia. I visit Colombia to attend to my business and girl friend that I have there.
https://www.t-mobile.com/plan-details
So that is the how now let us dress the why for those who need education on telecommunication issues.
Oh and if you are from the Dominican Republic why do you have a Las Vegas phone number?Well the short answer is: because I can! LOL! I happen to like Las Vegas a lot. It is my favorite city in the (Dis) United States of America. I do not see the need to set my international operations up for anyone other than for me. I have a system that works.
I am not FROM the Dominican Republic. Maybe some did not get the memo because they are not on my distribution list? All you have do if you want to know my country of origin is to read my extensive body of posts over the years. Very easy to figure out where I am from and where I currently live. I have nothing to hide. Nor do I need to hide behind my keyboard. I have met / meet my fellow ISG brothers who are not afraid to come out from behind their keyboards all over the world. And I maintain contact with them through WhatsApp and Line.
WhatsApp is the standard for Northern, Central, and the Southern Americas. Line is standard for many countries in East Asia. That is how I communicate. I rarely make a regular phone call or text. Line is a very cool program. If you meet a girl and want to exchange contact information she can show your her QR Code on the spot, you take a picture of it and you receive her Line ID directly. Keeps yours and her phone number private.
In this day an age all you need is a persons country code and their phone number in WhatsApp. If you have internet you can communicate. For more information, please review the attached thumbnail. I get one of those messages each time I have wheels down in a country. All those questioning my bonafides please note this on just one of the many I have received when I arrived in Colombia.
I stayed for several weeks in cities like Lima, Mexico City and it was very safe. My Spanish is not great and I am in my 50's.
I am planning a similar trip (remote work+some sightseeing+hobby) to Colombia in December. I am having some seconds thoughts, as things that I like to do is walking, and it sounds like I would need to be extra cautious even in good areas. Can somebody calm me down on this forum?
I stayed for several weeks in cities like Lima, Mexico City and it was very safe. My Spanish is not great and I am in my 50's.
I am planning a similar trip (remote work+some sightseeing+hobby) to Colombia in December. I am having some seconds thoughts, as things that I like to do is walking, and it sounds like I would need to be extra cautious even in good areas. Can somebody calm me down on this forum?My longest day walking in Colombia was 26 miles in Bogota. I've exceeded 20 miles a few times in Medellin. I've walked from Parque Lleras to Envigado at 4 am, and several times between midnight and 2 am. I've walked from Laureles to El Centro and Poblado. I've walked around Bello, Belen, Envigado, Sabaneta, Itagui and many of the less reputable barrios. I'm currently 61 years old and have probably walked over 2,000 miles in Colombia, mostly Medellin.
Is it safe? No. Can it be done safely? Yes.
My iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 has the capability for multiple e-sims. Please review the Apple website for more information on that. I have multiple e-sims in multiple countries. T-mobile offers excellent plans, one of which use. So, I am quite comfortable in my international travel using my US based number. I have nothing to hide. I do not live in Colombia. I visit Colombia to attend to my business and girl friend that I have there.
https://www.t-mobile.com/plan-details
So that is the how now let us dress the why for those who need education on telecommunication issues.
Well the short answer is: because I can! LOL! I happen to like Las Vegas a lot. It is my favorite city in the (Dis) United States of America. I do not see the need to set my international operations up for anyone other than for me. I have a system that works.
I am not FROM the Dominican Republic. Maybe some did not get the memo because they are not on my distribution list? All you have do if you want to know my country of origin is to read my extensive body of posts over the years. Very easy to figure out where I am from and where I currently live. I have nothing to hide. Nor do I need to hide behind my keyboard. I have met / meet my fellow ISG brothers who are not afraid to come out from behind their keyboards all over the world. And I maintain contact with them through WhatsApp and Line.
WhatsApp is the standard for Northern, Central, and the Southern Americas. Line is standard for many countries in East Asia. That is how I communicate. I rarely make a regular phone call or text. Line is a very cool program. If you meet a girl and want to exchange contact information she can show your her QR Code on the spot, you take a picture of it and you receive her Line ID directly. Keeps yours and her phone number private.
In this day an age all you need is a persons country code and their phone number in WhatsApp. If you have internet you can communicate. For more information, please review the attached thumbnail. I get one of those messages each time I have wheels down in a country. All those questioning my bonafides please note this on just one of the many I have received when I arrived in Colombia.LOL you really love to brag about everything. Anyways it makes more sense to have a +57 phone number while you are here. If you use your +1 number then the girls you contact are going to charge you more. By using a +57 WhatsApp and typing in Spanish you get better prices. Plus it just looks more normal to have a +57 number in your daily interactions with people. But I guess for a guy like you (with an IPhone 15 pro max with 512 gb of almacenamiento and what like 16 gigs of RAM) you don't care if you're getting ripped off. You have that "fuck you" money and all the arrogance that goes along with it.
Hope you have a great day.
-Gabacho.
I stayed for several weeks in cities like Lima, Mexico City and it was very safe. My Spanish is not great and I am in my 50's.
I am planning a similar trip (remote work+some sightseeing+hobby) to Colombia in December. I am having some seconds thoughts, as things that I like to do is walking, and it sounds like I would need to be extra cautious even in good areas. Can somebody calm me down on this forum?I've been all over Colombia and walking around in public during daytime hours I have never had a problem, other than homeless people asking for change but that happens everywhere. Bogota especially around the Carrera Septima area is real nice to walk around with some good restaurants and bars and lots of people out and about. The weather is cooler so you might want a light jacket. Medellin is warmer but currently we are in the rainy season so pack an umbrella if un will he outside any length of time especially in the afternoons.
I recommend you try Alitas Colombianas and BBC (Bogota Beer Company).
And in Medellin California Buffet near the Ayura metro station in Envigado for an excellent selection of food including sushi, Chinese, and all you can eat grilled to order steaks for about 60 k COP drink included.
A nice day trip from medellin that no one here ever mentions is the town of Caldas, Antioquia (take the metro linea A as far south as possible to estacion La Estrella) then from there look for busses that say "metro caldas" and if you pay with your same civica card as you used on the metro then you get a discount on the bus. Last time I went I got a bottle a Ron de Caldas at a local store there and sat down in their little plaza there under the gazebo drinking my rum and enjoying the scenery (drinking in public is legal here). I felt very safe the entire time and even ran into one of my regular girls who happened to be there confitiando and we ended up going to get a bite to eat and then came back to my place.
-Gabacho.
DiscoverFL
10-22-23, 18:01
I stayed for several weeks in cities like Lima, Mexico City and it was very safe. My Spanish is not great and I am in my 50's.
I am planning a similar trip (remote work+some sightseeing+hobby) to Colombia in December. I am having some seconds thoughts, as things that I like to do is walking, and it sounds like I would need to be extra cautious even in good areas. Can somebody calm me down on this forum?First thing, is don't look like a target, don't look like a tourist. Wear jeans and a dark t-shirt or polo shirt and you blend in as a local or as a resident gringo, no one bats an eye. Leave the dress shirts, dress shoes, dress belt, shinny watch, etc. At home. You want to blend in as a local resident Gringo living off a pension or such without money. Second, carry just your credit card (and have more than one in case you need to replace it) and cash for the day. My license / passport / etc. I have photos in my cell phone. Carry your wallet and cell phone in front pocket. If you carry your backpack (like when I carry my laptop to a co-working place), carry a generic one over a shoulder and all is good. If it gets crowded, packed, metro, or in el centro, then it is ok to sling backpack on front and protect it with your arms (so no one can open a zipper). Same rules as Barcelona, Paris, or London (where pickpockets are MUCH more active).
Next, and this applies to ANYWHERE in the world. Like NYC, 'walk with purpose', don't wander in circles or let yourself look lost or like a target. Look like you know where you are and where you are going. Even if you don't know, just walk towards shops / lights / businesses and then find a good place to reference your phone. If you need to look at your phone, not a problem, just make sure it is a safe spot not right in front of strangers or at the corner of a street near the street (where guys in a moto could ride up, grab your phone, and go). I usually stop mid-block, then can safely look at my phone. Learn to ask "Habla Ingles?" and if they don't and you need to inquire further; it's ok to use Google Translate. They are used to it.
If strangers approach too closely (more than one especially) expect it to be a standard pickpocket scheme. Shove your hands into those two front pockets to protect your belongings and walk away saying "no gracias" and just walk away. They won't stop you, they were just looking for an easy target.
That's it, people will pretty much leave you alone. People are very friendly (at least pretend to be), so you will smile lots and even not having great Spanish is fun and can endear folks. Treat them all with respect, say "hola" lots, and smile. You will love it.
The only other thing I do, is I do bring a backup cheap Amazon unlocked android phone. My email, WhatsApp, etc. Are synced to it and while it only works on WIFI, it gives me easy portability for backup. When I stay longer than a week I get a local sim for it and use that instead of my main phone (especially if out really late at night).
I do not live in Colombia. I visit Colombia to attend to my business and girl friend that I have there.I meet a girl in person. Negotiate the price on the spot. And then do the deed. How is that going to get a person charged more for sexual services? Exactly what part did you miss about multiple e-sim capability of my iPhone? How difficult is it to have a +57 country code? Especially when my phone allows for dual sims to be active. Oh, I am not getting ripped off my jealous ISG Brother with a phone he may or may not be proud of. Because I travel to Colombia on Business and to see my girlfriend. And unlike your friend, I get my ass licked without having to ask (I just mentioned that I liked it) or without having to spend a lot of money while I am there. And she does not care one bit about the country code I am using on my phone. And it should be noted, when you are primarily worried about the price of the pussy you are paying for and mostly doing business like I do, a country code of +1 does not hurt me one bit. But now you wouldn't know that would you considering who you are.
Enjoy your busy days in Colombia. When I am in Colombia I am in chill mode. I mostly read reports, have meetings where I set the times, and fuck.
LOL you really love to brag about everything. Anyways it makes more sense to have a +57 phone number while you are here. If you use your +1 number then the girls you contact are going to charge you more. By using a +57 WhatsApp and typing in Spanish you get better prices. Plus it just looks more normal to have a +57 number in your daily interactions with people. But I guess for a guy like you (with an IPhone 15 pro max with 512 gb of almacenamiento and what like 16 gigs of RAM) you don't care if you're getting ripped off. You have that "fuck you" money and all the arrogance that goes along with it.
Hope you have a great day.
-Gabacho.
I stayed for several weeks in cities like Lima, Mexico City and it was very safe. My Spanish is not great and I am in my 50's.
I am planning a similar trip (remote work+some sightseeing+hobby) to Colombia in December. I am having some seconds thoughts, as things that I like to do is walking, and it sounds like I would need to be extra cautious even in good areas. Can somebody calm me down on this forum?I've been coming to Colombia for a number of years, doing a lot of walking around mostly, I don't take that many cabs. Been to Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena and lately mostly Cali and Pereira. Never been robbed. I do most of my walking in the daytime or early evening. If I see some bad boys, I cross the street or go the other way.
One time many years ago in Medellin, some dude stuck his hand in my left pocket. He got nothing, because my dinero is in my right pocket. Keep your wits and stay out of the bad nieghborhoods.
LoveItHere
10-23-23, 00:16
My iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 has the capability for multiple e-sims. Please review the Apple website for more information on that. OMG! I am hard as a rock. Is this what you tell all the girls when you first meet them about your phone? They must get so wet they nearly drowned themselves. Can you please tell me more? If you posted some pictures I think I would fall in love. I do not think you meant to impress anyone with that information, but you sure have. I want to be you when I grow up.
Its not bragging if you can back it up. ― Muhammed Ali.
OMG! I am hard as a rock. Is this what you tell all the girls when you first meet them about your phone? They must get so wet they nearly drowned themselves. Can you please tell me more? If you posted some pictures I think I would fall in love. I do not think you meant to impress anyone with that information, but you sure have. I want to be you when I grow up.I will take your post in jest as I should. LOL!.
Hope you are having a great day my ISG Brother. Because I am!
Do you have anything to add about telecommunication issues? Because that is what my original post was about. Do you find that having a +57 country code is an advantage for you? Do you get better prices on the prostitutes you hire? Are there any other advantages?
The girls that I have hired all around the world as my prostitutes have not mentioned to me. Is Colombia special? Do they have a special hate for those with country codes different from them? I have found that in Colombia they do not engage in imposing the "gringo" tax like they do in a country that I have extensive experience in like the Dominican Republic. And that after the local businesses that I frequent say me on a repeated basis, became much more friendly, complemented me on my Spanish and even remember my usual orders.
Keep practicing your comic routine. You have good material. But your delivery needs a little work. ROTFLMAO!.
Because I fail to see the importance of having a +57 country code for short term visits. I do not live in Colombia. I travel all around the world with my +1 country code. I am uncertain that anyone pays attention to it other than those on ISG. In fact this guy is the first person that mentioned it to me:
Oh and if you are from the Dominican Republic why do you have a Las Vegas phone number?He asked the question and I answered him.
My iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 has the capability for multiple e-sims.Don't be a hater. If you want one just buy one. It is an amazing model I do not recommend that individuals buy a iPhone 15 if they already have a iPhone 14. I upgraded to the phone that I have from a iPhone XR. The XR still works perfectly. But I ran out of memory. One of the downsides of iPhones. Fixed memory. Advantage for these who use Android OS is that memory on those phones can usually be upgraded by just adding a bigger memory card. And memory cards are a great value these days. Especially if you catch a sale on one.
There is no reason to be jealous or to fall in love with material items. Money is worthless. Last time I checked you cannot take it with you. Stop tripping and get a grip.
Maha Siddha
10-24-23, 01:23
Dear All.
If I can only pick one city, which one should I do my tour?
Bogota seems get better price, but Medellin seems get hotter girls.
The goal of my tour is to BBFS as many girls as possible.
Thanks for all the guidance.
Yours Truly.
Its not bragging if you can back it up. ― Muhammed Ali.
I will take your post in jest as I should. LOL!.
Hope you are having a great day my ISG Brother. Because I am!
Do you have anything to add about telecommunication issues? Because that is what my original post was about. Do you find that having a +57 country code is an advantage for you? Do you get better prices on the prostitutes you hire? Are there any other advantages?
The girls that I have hired all around the world as my prostitutes have not mentioned to me. Is Colombia special? Do they have a special hate for those with country codes different from them? I have found that in Colombia they do not engage in imposing the "gringo" tax like they do in a country that I have extensive experience in like the Dominican Republic. And that after the local businesses that I frequent say me on a repeated basis, became much more friendly, complemented me on my Spanish and even remember my usual orders.
Keep practicing your comic routine. You have good material. But your delivery needs a little work. ROTFLMAO!.
Because I fail to see the importance of having a +57 country code for short term visits. I do not live in Colombia. I travel all around the world with my +1 country code. I am uncertain that anyone pays attention to it other than those on ISG. In fact this guy is the first person that mentioned it to me:
He asked the question and I answered him.
Don't be a hater. If you want one just buy one. It is an amazing model I do not recommend that individuals buy a iPhone 15 if they already have a iPhone 14. I upgraded to the phone that I have from a iPhone XR. The XR still works perfectly. But I ran out of memory. One of the downsides of iPhones. Fixed memory. Advantage for these who use Android OS is that memory on those phones can usually be upgraded by just adding a bigger memory card. And memory cards are a great value these days. Especially if you catch a sale on one.
There is no reason to be jealous or to fall in love with material items. Money is worthless. Last time I checked you cannot take it with you. Stop tripping and get a grip.I've always used my +1 number in Colombia, including during the year I lived there. When I needed to replace my phone, I purchased a dual SIM model and ran my TMobile SIM with a Claro SIM, only using Claro data if I couldn't get a connection with TMobile.
I can't say that having a +1 number affected any prices. It's quite obvious I'm not a native Colombian, my failure to use colloquialisms, especially diminutives, guaranteed nobody would think I'm from Medellin. Besides, I have no need to lie to the girls.
Personally I'm in the android camp. For me a good phone is worth splurging on. I've got a cheap Samsung as an emergency backup, but it takes forever to do anything and the camera is crap. TMobile is probably the best option for frequent travelers, although due to coverage issues I switched to Verizon years ago.
Bogota and Medellin are both good.
Medellin is better weather, unless you get lucky in Bogota, which is unlikely. Easily 10-12 F colder in Bogota, all the time, night and day, which can be annoying.
Provenza, Parque Llleras and surrounding areas of Medellin have much more in terms of nice restaurants, bars, regular clubs, etc. , in addition to the girls in the clubs and on the streets, so if it's not a trip focused 100% on sex, I'd definitely go with Medellin.
That said, if you're just trying to hit as many girls as possible, I think Santa Fe Bogota is easier as there are so many options in a small area.
Dear All.
If I can only pick one city, which one should I do my tour?
Bogota seems get better price, but Medellin seems get hotter girls.
The goal of my tour is to BBFS as many girls as possible.
Thanks for all the guidance.
Yours Truly.
Dear All.
If I can only pick one city, which one should I do my tour?
Bogota seems get better price, but Medellin seems get hotter girls.
The goal of my tour is to BBFS as many girls as possible.
Thanks for all the guidance.
Yours Truly.Bogota is the best. Go to prepagos.com and look how many girls in Bogota via Medellin. Pics are fake. Don't look at the photos it's bulshit. Pusy is pusy even on the moon. Fanta Fe is #1.
I've always used my +1 number in Colombia, including during the year I lived there. When I needed to replace my phone, I purchased a dual SIM model and ran my TMobile SIM with a Claro SIM, only using Claro data if I couldn't get a connection with TMobile.
I can't say that having a +1 number affected any prices. It's quite obvious I'm not a native Colombian, my failure to use colloquialisms, especially diminutives, guaranteed nobody would think I'm from Medellin. Besides, I have no need to lie to the girls.
Personally I'm in the android camp. For me a good phone is worth splurging on. I've got a cheap Samsung as an emergency backup, but it takes forever to do anything and the camera is crap. TMobile is probably the best option for frequent travelers, although due to coverage issues I switched to Verizon years ago.Qué Chimba.
DoomBringer321
10-25-23, 19:10
I don't know what it's about certain people, especially a subset of Americans using neutral language so as to not offend people, who believe that they can go to another country and flash whatever. Then they get whacked and everyone is like OMG what has the world come to stop it just stop! Especially when these are the same characters that criticize Ecuador as not safe this is unbelievable.
https://youtu.be/Te5mpbpIEjc?si=1dxdfsRVTes4dpYh
Online registration with the Colombian government still required by Spirit Airlines before letting you board? What's the website, if still required?
I don't know what it's about certain people, especially a subset of Americans using neutral language so as to not offend people, who believe that they can go to another country and flash whatever. Then they get whacked and everyone is like OMG what has the world come to stop it just stop! Especially when these are the same characters that criticize Ecuador as not safe this is unbelievable.
https://youtu.be/Te5mpbpIEjc?si=1dxdfsRVTes4dpYhThey think that because they grew up in the hood in Atlanta or Oakland or South Side Chicago or wherever, that they can act the same way in the hoods here in Colombia. They come down here without any Spanish skills flexing and flossing their gold chains thinking if they can do it in Atlanta they can do it in Cartagena. However what they don't realize is that down here (especially if it's a Venezuelan that's robbing you) they often shoot first and then jack you after you are down.
Its not worth your life over a gold chain or an iPhone. You shouldn't even bring those things to Colombia. They don't realize that there are people here who will do anything necessary to get food for themselves and their families, even if it means killing a tourist to steal his gold chain.
But you know what, maybe the guy didn't die in vain, maybe some other idiots will see what happened and decide not to floss their gold chains down here. So he's actually a martyr to the other idiots.
Mr Enternational
10-26-23, 01:39
They think that because they grew up in the hood in Atlanta or Oakland or South Side Chicago or wherever, that they can act the same way in the hoods here in Colombia. They come down here without any Spanish skills flexing and flossing their gold chains thinking if they can do it in Atlanta they can do it in Cartagena. Huh? I am from the hood in Atlanta and I speak 4 other languages besides Spanish and do not think or do any of that which you mentioned. There must be some other reason they do it besides where they grew up.
JohnnieCash
10-26-23, 02:37
Colombian congress is considering a bill that, if passed, will give sex workers, including prostitutes and webcam models, all benefits of an employee of any company including "the right to vacations, maternity and paternity leaves, bereavement leaves, service premiums, family day, family compensation funds and other benefits that come with a formal job in the country. "
https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/promueven-ley-para-que-la-prostitucion-sea-un-trabajo-formal-OG22715478
Huh? I am from the hood in Atlanta and I speak 4 other languages besides Spanish and do not think or do any of that which you mentioned. There must be some other reason they do it besides where they grew up.Well obviously you're not the "hip hop" generation I was referring to. For one you speak Spanish and for two you're not flashing any gold chains in Cartagena.
Huh? I am from the hood in Atlanta and I speak 4 other languages besides Spanish and do not think or do any of that which you mentioned. There must be some other reason they do it besides where they grew up.And don't think I'm referring to just black people because there's dumbass whiteboys doing the same stupid shit, look at Post Malone for example. If Post Malone were to come to Colombia he would probably get fucking murked and then they'd pull his teeth out.
DoomBringer321
10-26-23, 04:16
Colombian congress is considering a bill that, if passed, will give sex workers, including prostitutes and webcam models, all benefits of an employee of any company including "the right to vacations, maternity and paternity leaves, bereavement leaves, service premiums, family day, family compensation funds and other benefits that come with a formal job in the country. "
https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/promueven-ley-para-que-la-prostitucion-sea-un-trabajo-formal-OG22715478This was tried in Ecuador it failed, Colombia, Ecuador, Panama most Latin American countries with exceptions have extra salaries, profit sharing, and even higher social safety net than in the US more akin to European countries, one problem and most businesses are in the business of making the most amount of profit for the least amount of cost this is true in all business, for example in Ecuador when they tried that they made the sex workers independent contractors back in the day if you found a SW she would usually stay in that town, in that exact same club, and perhaps working the same hours so her patrons would gravitate there, now clubs do not tell a girl what time to come in, they don't tell a girl what to wear, they really only tell them to bring their health ministry check up and she can work and leave as she pleases. From a business point of view, it is chaotic, try running a supermarket that way, but for the sex industry, it limits liability so, in essence, SW at least in Ecuador is more like an "independent contractor" situation and the girls move, the go-to different club's different cities they are doing that anyway now they will just do it more often plus Colombia has several wealthier countries on their border Panama, Ecuador, Costa Rica, that have larger per capita incomes. Trust me nothing will change unless they are willing to change the prices in that case whatever attractiveness Colombia has will go down as other countries offer the same service for less.
Doom out.
Colombian congress is considering a bill that, if passed, will give sex workers, including prostitutes and webcam models, all benefits of an employee of any company including "the right to vacations, maternity and paternity leaves, bereavement leaves, service premiums, family day, family compensation funds and other benefits that come with a formal job in the country. "
https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/promueven-ley-para-que-la-prostitucion-sea-un-trabajo-formal-OG22715478There's also some other strange stuff in there. How about this: "Furthermore, the articles are clear regarding the rules that will be imposed on clients, understood as people of legal age who pay for sexual services, such as periodic checks for sexually transmitted infections, the use of permanent condoms, the payment of agreed values and prohibit any type of violence or abuse. " What is a permanent condom? If that were to become law, would we have to show results of a recent STD test when entering the country?
Also, since profiting from another person performing sexual activities (pimping) is illegal, who will be responsible for providing the benefits?
There's also some other strange stuff in there. How about this: "Furthermore, the articles are clear regarding the rules that will be imposed on clients, understood as people of legal age who pay for sexual services, such as periodic checks for sexually transmitted infections, the use of permanent condoms, the payment of agreed values and prohibit any type of violence or abuse. " What is a permanent condom? If that were to become law, would we have to show results of a recent STD test when entering the country?
Also, since profiting from another person performing sexual activities (pimping) is illegal, who will be responsible for providing the benefits?It most likely will not become law. Even if it didx it would be unenforceable.
There's also some other strange stuff in there. How about this: "Furthermore, the articles are clear regarding the rules that will be imposed on clients, understood as people of legal age who pay for sexual services, such as periodic checks for sexually transmitted infections, the use of permanent condoms, the payment of agreed values and prohibit any type of violence or abuse. " What is a permanent condom? If that were to become law, would we have to show results of a recent STD test when entering the country?
Also, since profiting from another person performing sexual activities (pimping) is illegal, who will be responsible for providing the benefits?Maybe it's strange due to a translation issue? Google Translate is not the answer to everything. It doesn't know ser from estar, for example.
StudPlayer
10-29-23, 19:17
https://www.msn.com/es-co/noticias/nacional/macabro-este-es-el-veh%C3%ADculo-del-horror-donde-hac%C3%ADan-paseos-millonarios-a-extranjeros-en-medell%C3%ADn-encontraron-nueve-tipos-de-sangre/ar-AA1j0maV?cvid=7c14d18f15f24df089e9cf2f31b4f8bf&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=13
As you can read in the article, it would be difficult to have as good a vacation anything like this anywhere except Colombia. For reference, this article is specific to medellin but it could be anywhere in Colombia. By the way, did anyone read about the family of luis diaz, the soccer player. You go ahead and google that one on your own.
These days now that Colombia has been become infested with foreigners, if you want colombianas for the legend of the sexy colombianas, almost anywhere in the world is a better place to find them now than in Colombia.
Have a great vacation and welcome to Colombia gringo. Con mucho gusto. A la orden. Claro que si. Un plaisir servirte. Que chimba.
I suspect the medellin board has died along with many of its most ardent contributors.
Where else did everyone go? Dead is where.
And one final piece of advice, if you are in Colombia for chicas and you are talking to a man, any man, you have fucked up and you are figuratively fucked and literally not fucked.
Colombia is not for chillen. The first guy portrayed in the article is a tough young israeli and they got him bad.
Con mucho gusto. A la orden. Fui un plaisir servirte. Que chimba.
Roflmao.
VloneCarti
10-29-23, 23:28
Any recommendations for best latin American countries to go to p4 p for a complete travel newbie? I'm 22 and soon will be planning a trip abroad (hopefully next summer) to visit a Latin American country to p4 p and be able to lose my virginity. The problem is I don't really have any experience at all with traveling abroad. I've never traveled solo by myself to a foreign country before and have only traveled out of the country once to China when I was 16 but that was a school trip. Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can go to that would be great for a travel newbie like me? I think Colombia and Brazil might be out automatically cause I've heard they can be somewhat hard to navigate. I have heard a lot of great things about Medellin though and would love to come there to p4 p after I've had experiences in other places. I know a lot of people recommend Thailand but unfortunately I'm not attracted to Asian women and also really like thick women so wondering what options I have. One place I do want to go to is sosua but I'm not sure how newbie friendly it is.
JohnnieCash
10-30-23, 02:10
https://www.msn.com/es-co/noticias/nacional/macabro-este-es-el-veh%C3%ADculo-del-horror-donde-hac%C3%ADan-paseos-millonarios-a-extranjeros-en-medell%C3%ADn-encontraron-nueve-tipos-de-sangre/ar-AA1j0maV?cvid=7c14d18f15f24df089e9cf2f31b4f8bf&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=13After obtaining the loot, the network would spend the money on electronic parties, pink cocaine, orgies, liquor, gold and high-value household appliances and then resell it when they ran out of money, after having squandered it on the unbridled life of crime they led. LOL.
Then, they reviewed the profiles of their victims, usually men between 30 and 50 years of age whose photos showed gold chains, expensive watches or trips to different countries, that is, who demonstrated a good purchasing power.
Elvis 2008
10-30-23, 02:55
Any recommendations for best latin American countries to go to p4 p for a complete travel newbie? I'm 22 and soon will be planning a trip abroad (hopefully next summer) to visit a Latin American country to p4 p and be able to lose my virginity. The problem is I don't really have any experience at all with traveling abroad. I've never traveled solo by myself to a foreign country before and have only traveled out of the country once to China when I was 16 but that was a school trip. Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can go to that would be great for a travel newbie like me? I think Colombia and Brazil might be out automatically cause I've heard they can be somewhat hard to navigate. I have heard a lot of great things about Medellin though and would love to come there to p4 p after I've had experiences in other places. I know a lot of people recommend Thailand but unfortunately I'm not attracted to Asian women and also really like thick women so wondering what options I have. One place I do want to go to is sosua but I'm not sure how newbie friendly it is.I would probably start in Tijuana and the Hong Kong club and then go deeper from there.
Maybe it's strange due to a translation issue? Google Translate is not the answer to everything. It doesn't know ser from estar, for example.Look at the original Spanish version: "Además, el articulado es claro en cuanto a las reglas que se van a imponer a los clientes, entendidos como personas mayores de edad que pagan por servicios sexuales, como controles periódicos de infecciones de transmisión sexual, el uso de condón permanente, el pago de los valores pactados y prohibir cualquier tipo de violencia o maltrato.".
Look at the original Spanish version: "Adems, el articulado es claro en cuanto a las reglas que se van a imponer a los clientes, entendidos como personas mayores de edad que pagan por servicios sexuales, como controles peridicos de infecciones de transmisin sexual, el uso de condn permanente, el pago de los valores pactados y prohibir cualquier tipo de violencia o maltrato.".'Permanente' also translates as "all the time. "
https://www.msn.com/es-co/noticias/nacional/macabro-este-es-el-veh%C3%ADculo-del-horror-donde-hac%C3%ADan-paseos-millonarios-a-extranjeros-en-medell%C3%ADn-encontraron-nueve-tipos-de-sangre/ar-AA1j0maV?cvid=7c14d18f15f24df089e9cf2f31b4f8bf&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=13
As you can read in the article, it would be difficult to have as good a vacation anything like this anywhere except Colombia. For reference, this article is specific to medellin but it could be anywhere in Colombia. By the way, did anyone read about the family of luis diaz, the soccer player. You go ahead and google that one on your own.
These days now that Colombia has been become infested with foreigners, if you want colombianas for the legend of the sexy colombianas, almost anywhere in the world is a better place to find them now than in Colombia.
Have a great vacation and welcome to Colombia gringo. Con mucho gusto. A la orden. Claro que si. Un plaisir servirte. Que chimba.
I suspect the medellin board has died along with many of its most ardent contributors.
Where else did everyone go? Dead is where.
And one final piece of advice, if you are in Colombia for chicas and you are talking to a man, any man, you have fucked up and you are figuratively fucked and literally not fucked.
Colombia is not for chillen. The first guy portrayed in the article is a tough young israeli and they got him bad.
Con mucho gusto. A la orden. Fui un plaisir servirte. Que chimba.
Roflmao.But "it's no more dangerous than the US ", "I went once and nothing happened to me".
Colombia to charge Canadians a reciprocity fee of 256,000 COP on entry into the country starting November 14,2023.
https://www.minuto30.com/en-pocos-dias-los-viajeros-canadienses-deberan-pagar-su-ingreso-a-colombia/1516839/#google_vignett.
DoomBringer321
11-03-23, 05:58
So the other day a video on YouTube piked my interest about someone dying in a hotel in Poblado after coming into the hotel with 2 ladies of Venezuelan origin, the investigators had done their job he clearly died of an overdose of scopolamine and then an Aussie got shot for resisting arrest, so the question becomes is it worth it to go to Colombia anymore. ?
https://youtu.be/pCeBTBkTzlM?si=FtqnF4fJ_wPdjFTr
Any recommendations for best latin American countries to go to p4 p for a complete travel newbie? I'm 22 and soon will be planning a trip abroad (hopefully next summer) to visit a Latin American country to p4 p and be able to lose my virginity. The problem is I don't really have any experience at all with traveling abroad. I've never traveled solo by myself to a foreign country before and have only traveled out of the country once to China when I was 16 but that was a school trip. Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can go to that would be great for a travel newbie like me? I think Colombia and Brazil might be out automatically cause I've heard they can be somewhat hard to navigate. I have heard a lot of great things about Medellin though and would love to come there to p4 p after I've had experiences in other places. I know a lot of people recommend Thailand but unfortunately I'm not attracted to Asian women and also really like thick women so wondering what options I have. One place I do want to go to is sosua but I'm not sure how newbie friendly it is.Dominican Republic.
Sosua is very newbie friendly. The Dominican Republic cares about tourists. The Colombian GOV simply does not give a fuck about them. Lets them get killed and makes not investigative effort to solve the crime. If a US tourist or any tourist gets killed in the Dominican Republic it is a national RED BALL and the crime gets solved. And the perpetrators goto jail. Not that it helps the victim. But is does give the bad guys pause. Please post an article about the last tourist that was SCOPED in Sousa (and wound up robbed or dead).
And for those who are going to question my information, please go read my body of posts during my time in the Dominican Republic Just stay focused on the deal and not the girl. No need to pay weekend millionaire prices just because there are others that do. No FOMO!.
Make judgments for yourself. There is not need to listen to people who have axes to grind for as Trip D (our local Cali expert would say) "reasons". And please do not worry about using a 1 country code in Colombia or the Dominican Republic. A SIM card in the Dominican Republic costs between 100 - 200 DOP. I don't know exactly. I have not bought one for years.
https://youtu.be/1iZz1sSs92k?si=66aIVTjGXR7qJbYl
Watch the entire video for context or you can goto time stamp 15:00 and pick it up from there. A man has to have a purpose. Chasing pussy is an activity. Awareness of what is happening in the world is also important.
So, much for those who question my business investments into Colombia. I also see great potential investment wise. Of course, the guerrillas could run up on me with that AK-47 and they get what they want. Those promoting Colombia as safe are doing a disservice to new people. Irresponsible at best, criminally negligent at worst.
Gabacho, you made a good choice when it comes to quality of life with reasonable costs. Much respect to you my ISG Brother. It's all good!
https://youtu.be/MrkA_OapfPU?si=dOAW_OA5H-CqfoRZ
StudPlayer
11-08-23, 14:03
Security Alert: USA Embassy Bogota – Cartagena Independence Day Festivities 2023.
Location: Cartagena.
Event: The Embassy advises USA Citizens to maintain a high level of security awareness and take extra safety precautions while transiting the city throughout the November 9-12 Independence Day festivities.
An increase in petty theft is expected, along with the potential for ad hoc non-police checkpoints and confrontations for money and / or valuables.
The Embassy recommends that USA Citizen avoid areas / neighborhoods east of Centro Commercial Caribe Plaza. Pay extra precaution if you need to drive through these areas as many illegal road blockages can be found on the streets to ask for money. Stay on main routes only, avoid large crowds, and avoid confrontations with festival participants. There have been reports of individuals manning blockades and throwing paint or rocks at vehicles who do not contribute coins as they pass.
The Embassy reminds USA Citizens visiting Colombia of the potential for interaction with criminals using scopolamine or other drugs to temporarily incapacitate unsuspecting victims and then rob or assault them. Victims of scopolamine-related crimes are often targeted in bars, night clubs, or through dating apps. Avoid leaving food or drinks unattended at a bar or restaurant, and refuse offers of something to eat or drink from a stranger.
The Embassy also reminds USA Citizens visiting Colombia that USA Government employees are prohibited from hailing taxis on the street due to the risk of assault or robbery. USA Citizens have been killed during robberies while using taxis. Use a dispatch service or cell phone app whenever possible.
The USA Department of State advises citizens to reconsider travel to Colombia due to crime, terrorism, and COVID-19 and to exercise increased caution in Colombia due to civil unrest and kidnapping.
SlickVick0303
11-08-23, 21:55
Geez I came on here to check out the latest on Medellin as I am contemplating a trip next Month. I was torn between here and Tijuana which I know oh so well.
I have been to Medellin a few times but with a group of guys for a long weekend. This time it would be solo. This recent talk of danger has me second guessing things and might just go back to my old faithful Tijuana.
Tijuana just has lost some of the spark for me, and when I was in parque Lleras partying with so many hot women, it gave me the rush I had in Tijuana 8 years ago.
Now I just keep thinking being solo the dangers are magnified ten fold. Especially since I was planning a week long trip this time.
Someone walk me off the ledge or confirm I need to keep my ass in Tijuana!
Geez I came on here to check out the latest on Medellin as I am contemplating a trip next Month. I was torn between here and Tijuana which I know oh so well.
I have been to Medellin a few times but with a group of guys for a long weekend. This time it would be solo. This recent talk of danger has me second guessing things and might just go back to my old faithful Tijuana.
Tijuana just has lost some of the spark for me, and when I was in parque Lleras partying with so many hot women, it gave me the rush I had in Tijuana 8 years ago.
Now I just keep thinking being solo the dangers are magnified ten fold. Especially since I was planning a week long trip this time.
Someone walk me off the ledge or confirm I need to keep my ass in Tijuana!Just use common sense and you will be fine. Don't bring two unknown venezuelan girls back to your hotel room or Airbnb for starters. Don't go out late at night. Don't carry around your iPhone 15 pro max and pull it out in front of everyone. Dress casual (no gold chains).
Basically read up in here RTFF and read news from Colombia. Watch YouTube videos from this dude DCBornRob, and basically all the idiots who have gotten killed here in the last I'd say 3 years, don't do the stupid shit that they did. A little common sense will go a long way.
I myself have made some mistakes along the way; thank God I didn't get scoped or killed, but I once had a laptop stolen. I learned from the experience and it made me change the way I was doing things, it made me be more sharp and alerted especially when I have anyone over to my place, and it made me see venezuelans for whom they really are.
My advice is to stay in Centro and fuck the girls in the Botero / Veracruz church area and use the short time hotels. You will be fine.
Huh? I am from the hood in Atlanta and I speak 4 other languages besides Spanish and do not think or do any of that which you mentioned. There must be some other reason they do it besides where they grew up.Did you know Wayne Wlliams?
SlickVick0303
11-10-23, 22:22
Just use common sense and you will be fine. Don't bring two unknown venezuelan girls back to your hotel room or Airbnb for starters. Don't go out late at night. Don't carry around your iPhone 15 pro max and pull it out in front of everyone. Dress casual (no gold chains).
Basically read up in here RTFF and read news from Colombia. Watch YouTube videos from this dude DCBornRob, and basically all the idiots who have gotten killed here in the last I'd say 3 years, don't do the stupid shit that they did. A little common sense will go a long way.
I myself have made some mistakes along the way; thank God I didn't get scoped or killed, but I once had a laptop stolen. I learned from the experience and it made me change the way I was doing things, it made me be more sharp and alerted especially when I have anyone over to my place, and it made me see venezuelans for whom they really are.
My advice is to stay in Centro and fuck the girls in the Botero / Veracruz church area and use the short time hotels. You will be fine.Thanks Gabacho. I am a low key guy by nature so has never really been an issue on that front. I am from a high crime diverse city so keeping a low profile and street smarts has just become normal for me at this point. Of course that isn't to compare inner city US to a whole other country, but I keep my wits and know that trusting anyone is a no no.
Thanks for the advice on those YouTube vids, spent time watching those and def just adds to the caution on my end.
I am pretty fluent in spanish at this point I would say 80% even. Working in Mexico for so long I have that type of accent and know the lingo. Doesn't keep me from standing out as a tourist in Medellin though as their dialect and phrases differ quite a bit, but at least I can communicate anything. As far as standing out. I am white white LOL. But with dark hair and dark facial hair, I suppose I can somewhat blend in from the 6'2 blonde surfer wearing flip flops and shorts.
As mentioned. In my previous visits I have gone with 3-5 other guys and all in the same airbnb so wasn't much of an issue as we always traveled together. But first time solo and my passion for partying and privacy has me thinking twice. If I go it is with the lure of parque lleras. I know there is lots of mixed feelings here on that area, but I love it. It's my type of scene and I am honest with the fact that it's where I would want to be. I don't see my self finding something on the street but would see myself at Gusto, Montecarlo or Glow and taking a girl back.
I would never take 2 women back at the same time and if I find a Venezuelan even a bigger of a no go. I like airbnb because I like privacy, where most want a hotel with security. I don't like that BS. The worrying of checking in then taking the walk of shame or just simply the hassle of trying to find a hotel to take them is such a pain in the ass.
So my fear is going alone to the 3 clubs among others alone and after a few days of frequenting these spots I am sure it will become obvious I am solo and become a target. I suppose I can switch it up, but still.
I might have have to look into Centro. But tbh I am not much into the street girl scene which is why I like the club scene much much more.
Might just do a Vegas / Tijuana trip if I get cold feet. Even thought the flight cost is actually cheaper for Medellin.
Mr Enternational
11-11-23, 15:12
Did you know Wayne Wlliams?I know of him, but I did not know him. I was 8 at the time. His house was close to 2 of my great aunts. That summer my cousin won a trip to Guadeloupe from our recreation center because of those events. That mf was always lucky.
Coolie High
11-11-23, 21:48
Leave the rides at the amusement park gentlemen.
A Bethel Park police lieutenant pleaded guilty to transporting an 18-year-old Venezuelan woman he met while she was working as a prostitute in Colombia into the United States, prosecutors said.
BB, 59, pleaded guilty to one count of transporting an illegal alien within the United States, the Department of Justice announced on Wednesday.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/pittsburgh/news/bethel-park-police-lieutenant-pleads-guilty-transporting-18-year-old-woman-into-united-states/Hey I aint mad at the guy. He was able to do the impossible and actually get his own personal amusement park snuck back into his country. What I'm curious to know is who ratted on him. I sure hope he wasnt a dumbass to himself by using his own personal phone and / or work phone to exchange text message with the girl.
I know of him, but I did not know him. I was 8 at the time. His house was close to 2 of my great aunts. That summer my cousin won a trip to Guadeloupe from our recreation center because of those events. That mf was always lucky.You were about the age he targeted. Why was he able to kill so many kids without anyone noticing who it was. He killed close to 30.
I don't agree with second part of point 4 and I did not review the other points. I would say Norte Americano is better.I'm going to show you two examples that support the second part of point 4. To save you the trouble of looking up point 4, here it is again:
4) "Americano" in Spanish can refer to people from the continent of America (with an accent over the e) or it can refer to people from the United States of America, depending on the context and the speaker.
Since America refers to a continent in Romance language countries, "americano" should mean a person from the continent of America. However, I have found that native Spanish-speakers do sometimes use term "americano" to refer to a person from the United States of America. Other terms in Spanish that can be used to refer to a person from the United States of America: estadounidense, gringo, and norteamericano.
Here are two examples from reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Colombia/comments/159dd0g/mujeres_con_novio_americano/
"Sienten ustedes que los hombres americanos son muy distantes emocionalmente? Incluso cuando hacen el delicioso?"
https://www.reddit.com/r/Colombia/comments/17sb09e/comment/k8p4vbx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
"Claro que debo decir que se asocia la palabra mas con los blancos dado que el estereotipo de un americano es una persona blanca."
Personally, I avoid using the term "americano" in Spanish because it can also mean someone from the continent of America.
That's why Spanish speakers will refer to "los gringos" if they want to be more precise. The discussion is made more complicated by the fact that the Spanish language likes plurals, even when no plurality is meant:
Las Americas (SA + NA)
Feliz navidades ("Merry Christmas", plural though only one Christmas is meant)
Buenos dias
Buenas tardes
Interestingly, no such thing in Portuguese, except maybe for "as americas" in the historical sense.
Feliz natal
Bom dia
Boa tardeSpanish also has "buen día" I use it often as a synonym for Chao usually at a grocery store after paying for my groceries, I'll say "gracias, buen theía" unless if it is in the evening then I'll replace it with "Feliz noche".
Also "feliz navidades" is incorrect because you pluralized the navidades but not the feliz, it would be "felices navidades" however in my experience I haven't heard that used, I always hear "Feliz Navidad" but for Easter I have heard "felices pascuas" used quite often.
Las Américas is plural because it refers to both North and South America there are two and that is why it is Las Americas. Some countries do teach that the whole of north and south America is one continent tho but I think it's still broken up into sub regions such as North Central and South.
I'm going to show you two examples that support the second part of point 4. To save you the trouble of looking up point 4, here it is again:
4) "Americano" in Spanish can refer to people from the continent of America (with an accent over the e) or it can refer to people from the United States of America, depending on the context and the speaker.
Since America refers to a continent in Romance language countries, "americano" should mean a person from the continent of America. However, I have found that native Spanish-speakers do sometimes use term "americano" to refer to a person from the United States of America. Other terms in Spanish that can be used to refer to a person from the United States of America: estadounidense, gringo, and norteamericano.
Here are two examples from reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Colombia/comments/159dd0g/mujeres_con_novio_americano/
"Sienten ustedes que los hombres americanos son muy distantes emocionalmente? Incluso cuando hacen el delicioso?"
https://www.reddit.com/r/Colombia/comments/17sb09e/comment/k8p4vbx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
"Claro que debo decir que se asocia la palabra mas con los blancos dado que el estereotipo de un americano es una persona blanca."
Personally, I avoid using the term "americano" in Spanish because it can also mean someone from the continent of America.When a person in Colombia says to me 'de donde' I reply, 'de California. ' End of conversation. They know what that means.
Personally, I avoid using the term "americano" in Spanish because it can also mean someone from the continent of America.I always use estadounidense from referring to the US of A. Even saying you are from the US is not good because of México, which is 'LOS Estados Unidos Mexicanos' and thus also the US.
You are technically right but I've never heard a Mexican call himself an Americano.
I always use estadounidense from referring to the US of A. Even saying you are from the US is not good because of Mxico, which is 'LOS Estados Unidos Mexicanos' and thus also the US.
John Clayton
11-23-23, 01:10
When a person in Colombia says to me 'de donde' I reply, 'de California. ' End of conversation. They know what that means.For sure, except there are a couple of little towns in Colombia named California -- one near Bucuramanga. I go with estadounidense. I have never heard a Mexican call themself that. Gringo is generally understood and means any foreigner. (Gringo in Mexico mostly means estadounidenses, but is also used for Canadians there.).
LoveItHere
11-23-23, 09:02
Between Christmas and New Years, which is better in terms of available street girls? Cucuta or Medellin? One way I think the Cucuta girls will all return to Venezuela for the holidays. Then I think many will stay for the money or not have enough money to return. Blah blah blah. I only need to hear from the guys that have actually been in Cucuta at Christmas and New Years. What the rest of us think does not matter.
Between Christmas and New Years, which is better in terms of available street girls? Cucuta or Medellin? One way I think the Cucuta girls will all return to Venezuela for the holidays. Then I think many will stay for the money or not have enough money to return. Blah blah blah. I only need to hear from the guys that have actually been in Cucuta at Christmas and New Years. What the rest of us think does not matter.Cucuta sounds fun I haven't been in like a year. Maybe I'll go for new years and report what it's like.
You are technically right but I've never heard a Mexican call himself an Americano.Neither have I, but due to the onerous nature of the Treaty of Guadlupe Hidalgo, by which quisling Santa Anna donated almost half his country to the Yew Ess, I err on the side of caution. I haven't heard a méxican refer to themselves as americano, yet I have seen instances where mexicanos mildly rebuked and informed estadounidenses about what we just discussed. A couple of times over the years. It's not a real hot button.
Splitting hairs at this point.
Neither have I, but due to the onerous nature of the Treaty of Guadlupe Hidalgo, by which quisling Santa Anna donated almost half his country to the Yew Ess, I err on the side of caution. I haven't heard a mxican refer to themselves as americano, yet I have seen instances where mexicanos mildly rebuked and informed estadounidenses about what we just discussed. A couple of times over the years. It's not a real hot button.
JohnnieCash
11-27-23, 17:44
According to the statistics, the Prosecutor General's Office successfully prosecuted 11,816 criminals in 2022, which is 0. 7% of the 1,648,388 crimes reported by citizens.
So it seems that a criminal has about 99% chance of not being prosecuted.
https://colombiareports.com/colombias-prosecution-all-but-collapsed-statistics-suggest/
According to the statistics, the Prosecutor General's Office successfully prosecuted 11,816 criminals in 2022, which is 0. 7% of the 1,648,388 crimes reported by citizens.
So it seems that a criminal has about 99% chance of not being prosecuted.
https://colombiareports.com/colombias-prosecution-all-but-collapsed-statistics-suggest/They don't catch many of them.
According to the statistics, the Prosecutor General's Office successfully prosecuted 11,816 criminals in 2022, which is 0. 7% of the 1,648,388 crimes reported by citizens.
So it seems that a criminal has about 99% chance of not being prosecuted.
https://colombiareports.com/colombias-prosecution-all-but-collapsed-statistics-suggest/Your statistics are flawed. You stated that 11,816 criminals were prosecuted (that means 11,816 people were arrested and prosecuted, not 11,816 criminal acts being prosecuted). Then you go on to say that there were 1,648,388 criminal acts reported and do some simple math to come up with and percentage (0. 7%) prosecution rate.
However you fail to take into account that many of the 1,648,388 criminal acts that were reported were most likely committed by the same people committing multiple crimes. It's not like its one crime per one person, then they just stop. I'm willing to bet that there are groups of people committing many crimes per person before they get caught and prosecuted and if that is the case then the percentage of people commiting the crimes in respect to the total amount of crimes being reported would be a different percentage than the 0. 7% that you stated.
Also what about crimes that go unreported in the first place?
What about organized crime syndicates that have the police in their pockets?
What about police themselves who are committing crimes?
As you can see the issue is not as cut and dry as you suggested.
JohnnieCash
11-29-23, 04:16
Your statistics are flawed. You stated that 11,816 criminals were prosecuted (that means 11,816 people were arrested and prosecuted, not 11,816 criminal acts being prosecuted). Then you go on to say that there were 1,648,388 criminal acts reported and do some simple math to come up with and percentage (0. 7%) prosecution rate.
However you fail to take into account that many of the 1,648,388 criminal acts that were reported were most likely committed by the same people committing multiple crimes. It's not like its one crime per one person, then they just stop. I'm willing to bet that there are groups of people committing many crimes per person before they get caught and prosecuted and if that is the case then the percentage of people commiting the crimes in respect to the total amount of crimes being reported would be a different percentage than the 0. 7% that you stated.
Also what about crimes that go unreported in the first place?
What about organized crime syndicates that have the police in their pockets?
What about police themselves who are committing crimes?
As you can see the issue is not as cut and dry as you suggested.True, all valid points. The statistic doesn't say how many of the reported crimes were 11,816 prosecuted criminals responsible for, which would be better info.
In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the XE.com rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.
In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the XE.com rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.Davivienda doesn't charge any ATM fees. If they did charge an ATM fee they would have to explicitly state that there is a fee and how much the fee is and give you the option to decline or accept the fee as do all atms that charge fees.
What you experienced is the exchange rate being applied to your transaction being slightly different than the exchange rate you saw online. I don't use XE or Visa exchange rates but I will look up "usd to cop" on Google and this will show an exchange rate for the current day as well as previous days.
Usually if you take the Google rate from the previous day or 2 days before, this is what you will get from Davivienda ATM machines, however sometimes it's about 50 COP per dollar higher and sometimes it's about 50 COP lower than what Google says (a negligible difference considering it currently takes 4000 to make one dollar, or 3960 LOL).
I have noticed that when the Google rate tends to be going up higher for the past cpl days before using the ATM then Davivienda will give about 50 cop per dollar over Google and when usd / cop is trending down Davivienda will give about 50 cop under Google.
The only logical explanation is that Davivienda uses a different exchange rate. It's not a fee because they legally have to ask you to accept it if it is a fee.
In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the XE.com rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.It is weird though how you got 2 different rates on the same day unless if the first withdraw was before they updated the daily rate and the second withdraw was after they updated it. I think around 3 pm each day they change the rate except for on weekends and Mondays.
You can also try using Banco Caja Social but they only let you withdraw 300 mil at a time (but you can do as many fee-free withdrawals as need be) and have a bad habit of giving out 100 mil notes.
In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the XE.com rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.Also the exchange rate (according to Google) hasn't been 3999 at all this week since atleast Monday.
See attached screenshots.
Bango Cheito
12-16-23, 06:28
In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the XE.com rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.I've suspected this myself, and usually use Servibanca for that reason.
Please let us know at the end of the month whether Schwab refunds it or not.
Also the exchange rate (according to Google) hasn't been 3999 at all this week since atleast Monday.
See attached screenshots.Looking at XE.com, at 3 pm on Wednesday, it was 3999.43.
Looking at XE.com, at 3 pm on Wednesday, it was 3999.43.Intraday rates mean nothing though. The way it works is at the end of each day whatever the closing rate is when the market closes, that will determine the ATM rate for the next business day (and it may be one business day behind).
If you look on Google (or I assume XE as well) you will notice the exchange rates start going up and down starting around 8 am (on business days) and it can peak and dip through out the day until around 5 pm. But those peaks and dips are called Intraday and mean nothing, only when it stops moving for the day around 5 pm that is the rate that will affect the ATM rate in the days that follow.
Looking at XE.com, at 3 pm on Wednesday, it was 3999.43.Let's say for the sake of argument that you are correct and Davivienda is charging a fee of 15 mil pesos per withdrawal. Legally wouldn't they have to disclose the fact that they are charging a 15 mil fee and ask the user to accept or decline it?
Every other ATM that charges a fee such as Bancolombia and the others all disclose their fee and give the option to decline or accept it. If it wasn't required to disclose it, I'm sure the other banks wouldn't ask they would just hide the fee too. So how do you explain that Davivienda could legally hide a fee in their exchange rate and the other banks can't?
Furthermore, after doing some research I found that the exchange rate isn't even determined by the ATM owner, it is determined by either visa or mastercard (depending on the logo on your debit card) and it is based off of something called the midmarket exchange rate at 5:30 pm UTC time from two business days prior.
So with that being the case how exactly would Davivienda be able to sneak a 15 k hidden fee into the exchange rate if they aren't even able to control the exchange rate?
DiscoverFL
12-16-23, 16:02
In the past, it was rather consistent, the ATM exchange rate would follow the XE.com rate by two days and be almost the same as the Visa foreign exchange rate of the day of the transaction. That may not have been true today. The Visa rate is 3999.43. I went to a Davivienda ATM and withdrew 2,000,000 and immediately afterward withdrew 1,520,000, declining the bank exchange rate each time. When I checked my Schwab bank account, I received 3969.67/1 for the 2,000,000 transaction and 3960.21/1 for the 1,520,000 transaction. The receipt shows 0 transaction fee. Analyzing those transactions indicates that Davivienda is now charging 15,000 transaction fee. That wouldn't be a problem if they specified a transaction fee, since Schwab will refund any fee that is listed separately. I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar experience with Davivienda. I used the ATM on LA 70 in Laureles. I think Davivienda has been almost the last bank to not charge ATM fees. That may have changed.Your problems start with "ATM exchange rate". Decline the bank's exchange rate and let your credit card or US bank handle the exchange via their commercial rate.
Your problems start with "ATM exchange rate". Decline the bank's exchange rate and let your credit card or US bank handle the exchange via their commercial rate.You didn't see this in my report "declining the bank exchange rate each time"?
Your problems start with "ATM exchange rate". Decline the bank's exchange rate and let your credit card or US bank handle the exchange via their commercial rate.I don't think that he's that stupid.
I think he is declining the Davivienda exchange rate and he is trying to say that Davivienda is somehow sneaking a 15 k COP into the mid-market rate calculated by visa or mastercard. This is evidenced by his original post when he stated he was charged 2 different rates of 3969 per dollar and then 3960 per dollar. What in fact happened is that each day during the week the rate changes at the ATM at around 3 pm and his firdt withdraw was before they changed for that day and his second withdraw (even if it was back to back) was most likely right after the rate had been changed for the day.
If you look at the screen shots I posted the closing rate on Wednesday was at 3970 per dollar and the day after that it closed around 3960.
Yes, Davivienda started charging 15 k fee somewhere at the beginning of this month.
What's fucked up is they don't put any warning at the ATM and paper receipt says fee equals 0.
I have Visa debit card and I see the fee on my ATM statement in the app (Revolut).
Other people reported this too, check Medellin Expats FB group.
Yes, Davivienda started charging 15 k fee somewhere at the beginning of this month.
What's fucked up is they don't put any warning at the ATM and paper receipt says fee equals 0.
I have Visa debit card and I see the fee on my ATM statement in the app (Revolut).
Other people reported this too, check Medellin Expats FB group.Not sure what card you are using but I use Capital One with a mastercard logo and the maximum I can withdrawl us 2,000,000 COP per transaction and it doesn't charge me any 15 k fee. And when doing the math, the rate I receive is in line with that of Google.
I last used the ATM on Dec 4th and will be using it again this coming Monday and will report back here what happens.
Furthermore, after doing some research I found that the exchange rate isn't even determined by the ATM owner, it is determined by either visa or mastercard (depending on the logo on your debit card) and it is based off of something called the midmarket exchange rate at 5:30 pm UTC time from two business days prior.Assuming your time quote is correct, the exchange rate at 5:30 pm on Wednesday was 3993.37. I only used the 3 pm time because you previously stated that the rate had not been 3999 all week. At one point Wednesday, it was 4001. XE states on their web site that they use midmarket rates. All of my references to rates, except the Visa rate, are from XE.
So with that being the case how exactly would Davivienda be able to sneak a 15 k hidden fee into the exchange rate if they aren't even able to control the exchange rate?The same way that the banks which disclose the fee do it, they add the fee to the amount requested and submit that amount to the clearing house (either Visa or MasterCard). As to your question about disclosing the fee, I don't know the banking laws in Colombia. I have no idea if it's a requirement to disclose the fees. I understand your reasoning of why do banks do it if not required.
I did the two withdrawals at 1:15:53 pm and 1:17:47 pm, local time (6:15:53 pm UTC). So the exchange rate should have been the same for both. I was charged $503.82 for one transaction. Using the Visa exchange rate (3999.43), I should have received 2,014,922.82, or 2,015,000 rounded. I received 2,000,000. $383.81 for the other transaction, which should be 1,535,021.23, or 1,535,000 rounded. I received 1,520,000. That is how I deciphered that there was a 15,000 fee. I'm fairly certain the exchange rate from Visa didn't change between the two transactions.
Assuming your time quote is correct, the exchange rate at 5:30 pm on Wednesday was 3993.37. I only used the 3 pm time because you previously stated that the rate had not been 3999 all week. At one point Wednesday, it was 4001. XE states on their web site that they use midmarket rates. All of my references to rates, except the Visa rate, are from XE.
The same way that the banks which disclose the fee do it, they add the fee to the amount requested and submit that amount to the clearing house (either Visa or MasterCard). As to your question about disclosing the fee, I don't know the banking laws in Colombia. I have no idea if it's a requirement to disclose the fees. I understand your reasoning of why do banks do it if not required.
I did the two withdrawals at 1:15:53 pm and 1:17:47 pm, local time (6:15:53 pm UTC). So the exchange rate should have been the same for both. I was charged $503.82 for one transaction. Using the Visa exchange rate (3999.43), I should have received 2,014,922.82, or 2,015,000 rounded. I received 2,000,000. $383.81 for the other transaction, which should be 1,535,021.23, or 1,535,000 rounded. I received 1,520,000. That is how I deciphered that there was a 15,000 fee. I'm fairly certain the exchange rate from Visa didn't change between the two transactions.You might be right then. I still think they should have to disclose the fee and ask you to accept or decline it. Adding it into the exchange rate and not asking you to accept it should be illegal and grounds for a law suit. Now that I think about it the last time I made a withdrawal at Davivienda the amount I calculated that would work was declined and then I tried again for 10 mil less and it went through. Also I got a notification on my phone from capital one saying that I didn't have enough money in my account to cover the withdrawal of $XXX. XX and the amount shown was less than what my avaible balance was, which I thought was weird. If it happens again this Monday I'll take screen shots and post here.
Yes, Davivienda started charging 15 k fee somewhere at the beginning of this month.
What's fucked up is they don't put any warning at the ATM and paper receipt says fee equals 0.
I have Visa debit card and I see the fee on my ATM statement in the app (Revolut).
Other people reported this too, check Medellin Expats FB group.Well if this is the case then we will off have to go back to using Caja Social and make like 7 withdrawals at a time and then take all the 100 mil notes inside the bank to have them changed for 50 mil notes.
I've suspected this myself, and usually use Servibanca for that reason.
Please let us know at the end of the month whether Schwab refunds it or not.So Servibanca is another one that doesn't charge any fees??
I walk past their atms whenever I go to terminal de norte and I used to always go right past them at the entrance there to go inside and use Davivienda, this was months ago tho.
I never knew they were also a fee-free ATM, I only knew about Davivienda and Caja Social and before March of this year BBVA.
Bango Cheito
12-17-23, 07:47
So Servibanca is another one that doesn't charge any fees??
I walk past their atms whenever I go to terminal de norte and I used to always go right past them at the entrance there to go inside and use Davivienda, this was months ago tho.
I never knew they were also a fee-free ATM, I only knew about Davivienda and Caja Social and before March of this year BBVA.They ALL charge fees now, but Servibanca allows you to take up to 2 million at once. And if you have Schwab, those fees get refunded anyway.
What's up in the air is whether Davivienda's fees get refunded or not, since they appear not to appear as separate fees, or maybe they do.
Not sure what card you are using but I use Capital One with a mastercard logo and the maximum I can withdrawl us 2,000,000 COP per transaction and it doesn't charge me any 15 k fee. And when doing the math, the rate I receive is in line with that of Google.
I last used the ATM on Dec 4th and will be using it again this coming Monday and will report back here what happens.I withdrew on Dec 2nd mutiple times and they didn't charge the fee, then on Dec 7th they did. I always had limit of 400 k in Davivienda for some reason, so 15 k is expensive for that now.
Colpatria used to be free but is 18.5 k for up to 900 k, since like half a year ago.
Banco de Bogota reportedly up to 1500 k for 18.5 k fee.
Banco Pichincha had no fee but they closed up the branch in centro, the is another ATM and branch in Poblado apparently but a bit is too far away for me to travel just for that.
Caja Social gives me up to 300 k option, no fee, but unspecified error when withdrawing on both Visa and Mastercard, so it doesn't work.
BBVA 600 k for around 20 mil fee if I remember correctly.
So at the moment for me Servibanca comes as the cheapest and most convenient with up to 2000 k withdrawal for 22.5 k fee (and it works).
They ALL charge fees now, but Servibanca allows you to take up to 2 million at once. And if you have Schwab, those fees get refunded anyway.
What's up in the air is whether Davivienda's fees get refunded or not, since they appear not to appear as separate fees, or maybe they do.In all of these discussions it seems like people are claiming that they get the mid-market rate somehow, whether it was from closing 2 business days back or whatever. Through the Visa or Mastercard clearing systems. What about the currency conversion cost? Visa and Mastercard supposedly charge 1%. So people say that gets refunded by Shwab or whoever, but I don't get how you can look at your bank statement and not see that?
In my case it is 2. 5 or 3. 5 percent and my bank (and all other Canadian banks) charge that. And in the past they did not use Visa or Mastercard for clearing, but now some do I think, but the minimum is 2. 5%. Anyway.
So with those using American banks. Who pays the 1% and do you see it on a statement anywhere or does Shwab just pay it directly to the clearing house.
All I know is that my cost is usually around 3% and I can get pissed off about it, or I can own bank stocks and collect dividends to recoup their highway robbery.
I withdrew on Dec 2nd mutiple times and they didn't charge the fee, then on Dec 7th they did. I always had limit of 400 k in Davivienda for some reason, so 15 k is expensive for that now.
Colpatria used to be free but is 18.5 k for up to 900 k, since like half a year ago.
Banco de Bogota reportedly up to 1500 k for 18.5 k fee, but I didn't try personally.
Banco de Pichincha had no fee but they closed up the branch in centro, the is another ATM and branch in Poblado apparently but a bit is too far away for me to travel just for that.
Caja Social gives me up to 300 k option, no fee, but unspecified error when withdrawing on both Visa and Mastercard, so it doesn't work.
BBVA 600 k for around 20 mil fee if I remember correctly.
So at the moment for me Servibanca comes as the cheapest and most convenient with up to 2000 k withdrawal for 22.5 k fee (and it works).OK so we are having very different results in respect to limits and fees. This ID the breakdown for me using mastercard from Capital One.
Davivienda 2'000'000 - never used to be a fee (possibly a hidden 15 k now).
BBVA 300'000 - no fee until March of 2023 (18 k fee since March 2023).
Caja Social - 300'000 - no fee whatsoever and does work.
Colpatria / Scotiabank. Has never worked for me.
Banco de Bogota. Rarely used I don't remember limit. I think 18 k fee.
Banco de Pinchicha. Never used it.
So with those using American banks. Who pays the 1% and do you see it on a statement anywhere or does Shwab just pay it directly to the clearing house. All I know is that my cost is usually around 3% and I can get pissed off about it, or I can own bank stocks and collect dividends to recoup their highway robbery.I have both Schwab and E-Trade. E-Trade the refund of the fee is instant and shown separately. Schwab, neither the withdrawal nor the refund show up until the next business day but again is shown separately. This has been true no matter what country I'm in. Others say they don't get their Schwab fees refunded until the end of the month; these people may have a slightly different type of account? IDK.
In all of these discussions it seems like people are claiming that they get the mid-market rate somehow, whether it was from closing 2 business days back or whatever. Through the Visa or Mastercard clearing systems. What about the currency conversion cost? Visa and Mastercard supposedly charge 1%. So people say that gets refunded by Shwab or whoever, but I don't get how you can look at your bank statement and not see that?
In my case it is 2. 5 or 3. 5 percent and my bank (and all other Canadian banks) charge that. And in the past they did not use Visa or Mastercard for clearing, but now some do I think, but the minimum is 2. 5%. Anyway.
So with those using American banks. Who pays the 1% and do you see it on a statement anywhere or does Shwab just pay it directly to the clearing house.
All I know is that my cost is usually around 3% and I can get pissed off about it, or I can own bank stocks and collect dividends to recoup their highway robbery.There is no currency conversion costs. The amount is charged to your card in COP but when you check your app to see transactions it will show the amount in USD.
When you do the math and take the amount you withdrew in COP and divide it by the amount your app shows for the transaction in USD then that will give you a number around 4000 and you can then compare that number to what Google says the exchange rate is (mid-market rate).
Used to always be spot on (within 50 COP) of what Google stated.
Now I'm not so sure after reading FunLover's report and my latest experience with Davivienda where I felt like they were stealing 10 mil pesos from me according to what I should have been able to pull out.
And it may sound like complaining about 10 mil or 15 mil is stupid but these days everything is getting more expensive and we've been constantly getting less and less pesos for our dollars. When I first moved into my apartment and was buying my furniture and appliances I was getting 5,000 COP per dollar; now I'm fighting for 4,000 per dollar.
Bango Cheito
12-17-23, 17:14
In all of these discussions it seems like people are claiming that they get the mid-market rate somehow, whether it was from closing 2 business days back or whatever. Through the Visa or Mastercard clearing systems. What about the currency conversion cost? Visa and Mastercard supposedly charge 1%. So people say that gets refunded by Shwab or whoever, but I don't get how you can look at your bank statement and not see that?
In my case it is 2. 5 or 3. 5 percent and my bank (and all other Canadian banks) charge that. And in the past they did not use Visa or Mastercard for clearing, but now some do I think, but the minimum is 2. 5%. Anyway.
So with those using American banks. Who pays the 1% and do you see it on a statement anywhere or does Shwab just pay it directly to the clearing house.
All I know is that my cost is usually around 3% and I can get pissed off about it, or I can own bank stocks and collect dividends to recoup their highway robbery.I actually do get the mid-market rate with my Schwab card and with my Capital One credit cards. Sometimes a little bit less, sometimes even better than mid market, but always within 1% or so, and it tracks very closely in all cases. I've been watching it for years now.
I have both Schwab and E-Trade. E-Trade the refund of the fee is instant and shown separately. Schwab, neither the withdrawal nor the refund show up until the next business day but again is shown separately. This has been true no matter what country I'm in. Others say they don't get their Schwab fees refunded until the end of the month; these people may have a slightly different type of account? IDK.Your Schwab account acts much different than mine. The transaction shows in my account quickly. After making a withdrawal, it shows in my account by the time I get back to my apartment. Until Friday, I hadn't made a withdrawal that charged a fee for years. I don't remember if the fee showed separately. I do remember the refund was at the end of the month or the end of my statement period, not sure which one.
I've had a Schwab checking account tied to a brokerage account for probably ten years. I don't keep any money in the brokerage account.
Your Schwab account acts much different than mine. The transaction shows in my account quickly. After making a withdrawal, it shows in my account by the time I get back to my apartment. Until Friday, I hadn't made a withdrawal that charged a fee for years. I don't remember if the fee showed separately. I do remember the refund was at the end of the month or the end of my statement period, not sure which one.
I've had a Schwab checking account tied to a brokerage account for probably ten years. I don't keep any money in the brokerage account.I've had mine for more like 25 years and I do have mid-five figures in the brokerage account. E-Trade, BTW, does charge (me) a 1% foreign transaction fee, and they do this even in Panamá where the USD is used. So, I use Schwab when traveling and E-Trade at home, since I like seeing the transaction instantly. Having both is not a bad idea IMO.
Your Schwab account acts much different than mine. The transaction shows in my account quickly.The money is subtracted from your account immediately. What might confuse some people is that sometimes the transaction doesn't show up in the history buffer immediately, but your "balance available" will be subtracted instantaneously. No way Schwab will allow us to "double dip".
I don't remember if the fee showed separately. I do remember the refund was at the end of the month or the end of my statement period, not sure which one.The refund is given to you at the end of the month.
The refund fee is given in a separate lump sum. That irritates me. Since it's given in a lump sum, you don't know which ATM charges, and the amount. Takes too much work for me if I want to calculate.
The money is subtracted from your account immediately. What might confuse some people is that sometimes the transaction doesn't show up in the history buffer immediately, but your "balance available" will be subtracted instantaneously.Yes, that's true.
Your Schwab account acts much different than mine. The transaction shows in my account quickly. After making a withdrawal, it shows in my account by the time I get back to my apartment. Until Friday, I hadn't made a withdrawal that charged a fee for years. I don't remember if the fee showed separately. I do remember the refund was at the end of the month or the end of my statement period, not sure which one.
I've had a Schwab checking account tied to a brokerage account for probably ten years. I don't keep any money in the brokerage account.FunLuvr you were absolutely correct bro. My apologies for doubting you. It is in fact true that Davivienda is now charging a hidden fee of 15 mil without asking us to decline or accept it. I did some digging around and found this showing the transaction amount to and ATM fee (see the attached screen shots). One is from November without any fee and one of from December showing the fee.
Cargo de ATM $3.72 (15 mil COP) as of December 2023.
DoomBringer321
12-26-23, 16:13
I had an interview with a passport bro about the current batch of guys who are going to Colombia.
https://youtu.be/XKRfTFY39-0?si=zHMKj1cAclEGDuiT
I had an interview with a passport bro about the current batch of guys who are going to Colombia.
https://youtu.be/XKRfTFY39-0?si=zHMKj1cAclEGDuiTGreat interview Doom. So the passport bros know that they are a problem. That is good. Recognizing the problem is the first step to correcting it.
I have an Ecuador question for you bro. Are the street girls working in Salinas / La dieciocho are they mainly ecuatoriana women or are they Venezolanas?
-Gabacho.
The ATMs of Davivienda are having a (reported and known) problem with international cards. Anyone know of a good alternative, meaning either high withdrawal limit or low charges?
The ATMs of Davivienda are having a (reported and known) problem with international cards. Anyone know of a good alternative, meaning either high withdrawal limit or low charges?I remember bsngo cheto mentioned that he uses Servibanca and it also has a 2 million COP withdrawal limit. Not sure what the fee is though.
How long is this problem expected to last?
Hello.
I remember last time I travel to Colombia 2022, I had someone at airport ask me about filling out a form before arriving in Colombia. I don't know if that still the case.
Hello.
I remember last time I travel to Colombia 2022, I had someone at airport ask me about filling out a form before arriving in Colombia. I don't know if that still the case.Search Colombia checkmig. It's free so don't fall for a scam service site that has you pay a fee, just use the government site. Once completed it's in their computer system and likely it'll never be mentioned again. Same process when you leave Colombia.
The ATMs of Davivienda are having a (reported and known) problem with international cards. Anyone know of a good alternative, meaning either high withdrawal limit or low charges?I just made a withdrawal at Davivienda this morning and it worked fine.
All of the above and some cubanas!
Great interview Doom. So the passport bros know that they are a problem. That is good. Recognizing the problem is the first step to correcting it.
I have an Ecuador question for you bro. Are the street girls working in Salinas / La dieciocho are they mainly ecuatoriana women or are they Venezolanas?
-Gabacho.
LionBacker
01-17-24, 15:44
Hi,
I'm I've been living in Medellin for the past 4 months and my spanish is decent. I came here looking for a girlfriend. Yet the only girls that I match with on dating sites are working girls and I joined salsa clubs, roller skating clubs and went to language exchanges yet it seems like in Medellin many (not all) local normal non working girls look down on dating foreigner guys, but when I first went to Medellin in 2017, so many local girls wanted to know who I was, where I was coming from and had so many questions about why I am in Colombia.
Where in Colombia can I go where I can meet a normal girl and have a relationship with her. My friend says Santa Marta or Cali would be where I can get the attention I got in medellin in 2017. What do you guys think?
Mr Enternational
01-17-24, 16:36
I've been living in Medellin for the past 4 months and my spanish is decent. I came here looking for a girlfriend. Yet the only girls that I match with on dating sites are working girls I have the same experience.
Where in Colombia can I go where I can meet a normal girl and have a relationship with her.Bogota, Cali, and Barranquilla for me.
I just made a withdrawal at Davivienda this morning and it worked fine.Yeah I just ried today following your comment and it looks like issue over. Thanks for the servibanco suggestion too.
Hi,
I'm I've been living in Medellin for the past 4 months and my spanish is decent. I came here looking for a girlfriend. Yet the only girls that I match with on dating sites are working girls and I joined salsa clubs, roller skating clubs and went to language exchanges yet it seems like in Medellin many (not all) local normal non working girls look down on dating foreigner guys, but when I first went to Medellin in 2017, so many local girls wanted to know who I was, where I was coming from and had so many questions about why I am in Colombia.
Where in Colombia can I go where I can meet a normal girl and have a relationship with her. My friend says Santa Marta or Cali would be where I can get the attention I got in medellin in 2017. What do you guys think?I made a post a while back about this. Most attractive girls in Medellin are hookers and the ones that aren't don't want to be seen with an American because her peers will think she is a ho. Good luck finding a regular girl in Colombia. The place is one big brothel like Rio. A hooker there told me 80% of girls there are hookers. Pretty soon with marriage rates collapsing in America all attractive girls here will be hos.
Mr Enternational
01-18-24, 03:13
Good luck finding a regular girl in Colombia. The place is one big brothel like Rio. A hooker there told me 80% of girls there are hookers.You believe that shit until you start to meet and mix with normal people. That is just like hanging out with a junkie and them saying 80% of the people in the country are users. Ridiculous.
Mr Enternational
01-18-24, 05:00
I had an interview with a passport bro about the current batch of guys who are going to Colombia.
https://youtu.be/XKRfTFY39-0?si=zHMKj1cAclEGDuiTBut your last question is kind of misleading for the subject matter. Everyone knows that the people are traveling to fuck with hookers. When someone is traveling to these places having learned the language, not hanging out on "the strip," and looking for a relationship with a person who is not a hooker then is the time to ask about what you can find (eg. Submissiveness and the likes). Until then all that needs to be asked is how much is it going to cost for you to stay this long and do this, that, and the other. I can not believe guys are still fooling themselves into believing hookers are not hookers.
It was the same thing with that old Rio interview that was done years ago. These are hookers that go to the club to find men for money every night. These are not people that have been to school and are working a 9 to 5 job everyday.
Elvis 2008
01-18-24, 10:14
Yet the only girls that I match with on dating sites are working girls and I joined salsa clubs, roller skating clubs and went to language exchanges yet it seems like in Medellin many (not all) local normal non working girls look down on dating foreigner guys, but when I first went to Medellin in 2017, so many local girls wanted to know who I was, where I was coming from and had so many questions about why I am in Colombia.I think that is the price of so many mongers in Medellin. If a woman is seen with a gringo in Medellin, she looks like a hooker.
Where in Colombia can I go where I can meet a normal girl and have a relationship with her. My friend says Santa Marta or Cali would be where I can get the attention I got in medellin in 2017. What do you guys think?Spinner types are tough to find in Cali. If you like black women or women with curves, it is great. I think Bogota is best. Barranquilla would be second for me. If you want to dive deeper, I would look at the cities few go to in the coffee triangle: Armenia, Manizales, and Pereira. My gal just got back from visiting a GF of hers in Pereira, and she had a good time seeing the sites. There was more to do there than I imagined.
For as often as I am in Cartagena, I rarely see women who are head turners. It happens just not like in Medellin. The places where I have seen them is North of Bogota. When I have left Bogota, it was first through Chia and then Zipaquira where the salt castle is. There are lots of tourists there so there might be a stigma to meeting the women there. Ubate is the first town where you feel like you have left Bogota and they have arepas to die for there.
It is the cities further down the road: Susa, Simijaca, Chiquinquira, and Villa De Leyva that I was like holy fuck. The town squares are literally filled with beauty after beauty. Granted, the women often look similar: their skin is naturally tanned like so many Caucasian women strive to be, high cheek bones, thinner posteriors than the Paisas, and trim waists. Outside of a few in Villa De Leyva, you will not see tourists.
When in Barranquilla, I stayed at a hotel and in the lobby saw women glammed up and dressed to the nines meeting their dates for dinner. Maybe it was just dumb luck, I saw at least half a dozen stunners.
In the other cities I mentioned, the women were less sophisticated and more pure. They would be wearing cut off t-shirts showing rock hard abs and tight jeans with that special wiggle. The churches seemed to dominate the social scenes so I would guess volunteering or showing up at their functions, services, and festivals would be the way to meet the ladies there. Hope that helps.
MongerHunger
01-18-24, 16:22
I think that is the price of so many mongers in Medellin. If a woman is seen with a gringo in Medellin, she looks like a hooker.
Spinner types are tough to find in Cali. If you like black women or women with curves, it is great. I think Bogota is best. Barranquilla would be second for me. If you want to dive deeper, I would look at the cities few go to in the coffee triangle: Armenia, Manizales, and Pereira. My gal just got back from visiting a GF of hers in Pereira, and she had a good time seeing the sites. There was more to do there than I imagined.
For as often as I am in Cartagena, I rarely see women who are head turners. It happens just not like in Medellin. The places where I have seen them is North of Bogota. When I have left Bogota, it was first through Chia and then Zipaquira where the salt castle is. There are lots of tourists there so there might be a stigma to meeting the women there. Ubate is the first town where you feel like you have left Bogota and they have arepas to die for there.
It is the cities further down the road: Susa, Simijaca, Chiquinquira, and Villa De Leyva that I was like holy fuck. The town squares are literally filled with beauty after beauty. Granted, the women often look similar: their skin is naturally tanned like so many Caucasian women strive to be, high cheek bones, thinner posteriors than the Paisas, and trim waists. Outside of a few in Villa De Leyva, you will not see tourists.
When in Barranquilla, I stayed at a hotel and in the lobby saw women glammed up and dressed to the nines meeting their dates for dinner. Maybe it was just dumb luck, I saw at least half a dozen stunners.
In the other cities I mentioned, the women were less sophisticated and more pure. They would be wearing cut off t-shirts showing rock hard abs and tight jeans with that special wiggle. The churches seemed to dominate the social scenes so I would guess volunteering or showing up at their functions, services, and festivals would be the way to meet the ladies there. Hope that helps.I want to discover the areas north of Bogota. A city called Tunja comes to mind. A lot of indigenous people up there in the mountains with a cooler climate.
Bango Cheito
01-27-24, 00:35
I remember bsngo cheto mentioned that he uses Servibanca and it also has a 2 million COP withdrawal limit. Not sure what the fee is though.
How long is this problem expected to last?Fee is 22500.
Dcrist0527
01-27-24, 03:40
Gentlemen, I'm planning on flying into Colombia from Mexico. My passport is from the US. Other than Check Mig, are there any other requirements that we don't need when flying in from the US?
Thanks in advance.
Gentlemen, I'm planning on flying into Colombia from Mexico. My passport is from the US. Other than Check Mig, are there any other requirements that we don't need when flying in from the US?
Thanks in advance.I always fly in from Mexico as it's way cheaper that way. You just have to have your passport and check mig and give your valid FMM card to the airline people at the gate (you'll get a new one for 180 days for free when you return). I think if you're going through Cancun they don't do the FMM there anymore so you don't even have to worry about it.
Dcrist0527
01-28-24, 00:05
I always fly in from Mexico as it's way cheaper that way. You just have to have your passport and check mig and give your valid FMM card to the airline people at the gate (you'll get a new one for 180 days for free when you return). I think if you're going through Cancun they don't do the FMM there anymore so you don't even have to worry about it.Appreciate the info. Long story short, I might not have an FMM. I'll be entering Tijuana as a pedestrian and flying out of TIJ. Half of the time I walk across, they don't issue an FMM and just wave me through. But, I've never flown out of Tijuana before. So I'll just mention that to the migration official and hope it doesn't cost me $35. LOL.
So those sneaky bastards at Davivienda are indeed charging an undisclosed $15 k mil fee but the good news is Schwab told me they can see the fee and it will be refunded like any other fee.
Can withdraw $1 millóand vs only about $600 k from Bancolombia. The fee for the latter is a ridiculous $27 mil almost. I don't even understand how Schwab affords to reimburse all the fees but I guess they figure they make more in managing your investments.
Appreciate the info. Long story short, I might not have an FMM. I'll be entering Tijuana as a pedestrian and flying out of TIJ. Half of the time I walk across, they don't issue an FMM and just wave me through. But, I've never flown out of Tijuana before. So I'll just mention that to the migration official and hope it doesn't cost me $35. LOL.There's a kiosk inside the Tijuana airport (or atleast there used to be) on the right had side (when you walk in from the street) where you can get the FMM, and yes I believe it costs about $30 or $35 usd for the 180 day one. The 7 day one you get for free at the border will not work for boarding an international flight out of Mexico.
Now if you were just flying domestically within Mexico like Tijuana to CDMX or Tijuana to Cancun, etc. I've never ever been asked for the FMM or even my passport I've been able to fly all over Mexico with just a California ID card. But when you go to board the flight that leaves Mexico and lands in BOG or MDE in my experience they will deny you boarding unless you have a valid FMM. This may have changed though as I know in Cancun they no longer issue them they just write 180 on the stamp in the passport which acts as the FMM but I'm not sure if that's now at every airport or just at cancun.
Also one time I was denied boarding on a wingo flight from cancun to Bogota because my FMM had a car stamp instead of an airplane stamp (means it was issued at a land port of entry not an international airport). The wingo lady told me she couldn't accept it because of the car stamp and that I had to go to the INM office and get another stamp on the back side then she could accept it.
So literally like 20 mins before boarding I had to run through the cancun T2 airport all the way back thru the security checkpoint to the INM office there behind that guacamole restaurant where the bathrooms and ATMs are and they gave me the stamp on the back of the FMM card which is an exit stamp then I had to go back through security and back to the gate and I literally ran there all out of breath but I made it and the lady then accepted my FMM and boarding had already started so I just walked onto the plane at the at point.
I would advise you to pay the $35 and buy the FMM at the Tijuana airport or at the border crossing and hold onto it along with the separate receipt showing you paid for it. And when you get to the final airport where you will be boarding your flight to Colombia go up to the counter where you check your luggage and ask them if you need the exit stamp on the back or not (and go get that if you need it) then proceed through security and to your gate.
And if you didn't need the FMM at all I guess you're out $35 bucks but that's alot better than missing your flight if you did need it.
Actually you know what, now that I think about it, this last time I came through in August of last year, I had a brand new passport as I had just renewed in July and my FMM stamp was in the old passport from the last time I came back and I was just waived into Mexico like how you mentioned. And when I boarded in cancun on a flight to Medellin I was not asked for the FMM and neither did they ask about my Mexico entry stamp which I didn't have in the new passport (it was literally blank) but I did have the old passport with the 2 holes punched in it with a valid FMM stamp from cancun still within the 180 days in case if I needed to show it but they never asked me for it. They just let me board the flight with the blank passport. So you may not need it. I'd still rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it though, so your move.
So those sneaky bastards at Davivienda are indeed charging an undisclosed $15 k mil fee but the good news is Schwab told me they can see the fee and it will be refunded like any other fee.
Can withdraw $1 milland vs only about $600 k from Bancolombia. The fee for the latter is a ridiculous $27 mil almost. I don't even understand how Schwab affords to reimburse all the fees but I guess they figure they make more in managing your investments.What gets me is that they are not disclosing it on the ATM screen and asking us to accept or decline it like every other bank does. Also if you press yes to get a receipt on that printed receipt it shows "commission $0.00" which is an outright lie.
What if they were to decide to just raise the fee to say $50 mil COP out of the blue one day, like how would we even know until after we complete a withdrawal and then look at our accounts to see how much we were charged.
Also the withdrawal limit is $2 Million COP making the 15 mil fee like 0. 75% of the total withdrawal amount which is still the lowest fee of all the banks (except for maybe pinchicha but I don't know where that bank is) in Colombia.
in Cancun they no longer issue them they just write 180 on the stamp in the passport Just a heads up for those who go to México: the 180 days is no longer automatic and it's at the discretion of the immigration officer.
Dcrist0527
01-28-24, 21:33
There's a kiosk inside the Tijuana airport (or atleast there used to be) on the right had side (when you walk in from the street) where you can get the FMM, and yes I believe it costs about $30 or $35 usd for the 180 day one. The 7 day one you get for free at the border will not work for boarding an international flight out of Mexico.
Now if you were just flying domestically within Mexico like Tijuana to CDMX or Tijuana to Cancun, etc. I've never ever been asked for the FMM or even my passport I've been able to fly all over Mexico with just a California ID card. But when you go to board the flight that leaves Mexico and lands in BOG or MDE in my experience they will deny you boarding unless you have a valid FMM. This may have changed though as I know in Cancun they no longer issue them they just write 180 on the stamp in the passport which acts as the FMM but I'm not sure if that's now at every airport or just at cancun.
Also one time I was denied boarding on a wingo flight from cancun to Bogota because my FMM had a car stamp instead of an airplane stamp (means it was issued at a land port of entry not an international airport). The wingo lady told me she couldn't accept it because of the car stamp and that I had to go to the INM office and get another stamp on the back side then she could accept it.
So literally like 20 mins before boarding I had to run through the cancun T2 airport all the way back thru the security checkpoint to the INM office there behind that guacamole restaurant where the bathrooms and ATMs are and they gave me the stamp on the back of the FMM card which is an exit stamp then I had to go back through security and back to the gate and I literally ran there all out of breath but I made it and the lady then accepted my FMM and boarding had already started so I just walked onto the plane at the at point.
I would advise you to pay the $35 and buy the FMM at the Tijuana airport or at the border crossing and hold onto it along with the separate receipt showing you paid for it. And when you get to the final airport where you will be boarding your flight to Colombia go up to the counter where you check your luggage and ask them if you need the exit stamp on the back or not (and go get that if you need it) then proceed through security and to your gate.
And if you didn't need the FMM at all I guess you're out $35 bucks but that's alot better than missing your flight if you did need it.
Actually you know what, now that I think about it, this last time I came through in August of last year, I had a brand new passport as I had just renewed in July and my FMM stamp was in the old passport from the last time I came back and I was just waived into Mexico like how you mentioned. And when I boarded in cancun on a flight to Medellin I was not asked for the FMM and neither did they ask about my Mexico entry stamp which I didn't have in the new passport (it was literally blank) but I did have the old passport with the 2 holes punched in it with a valid FMM stamp from cancun still within the 180 days in case if I needed to show it but they never asked me for it. They just let me board the flight with the blank passport. So you may not need it. I'd still rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it though, so your move.Again, I appreciate all of the information. I decided to go to Tijuana to make my upcoming trip a 2-city party. I'll plan on getting the FMM in Tijuana. I appreciate you sharing your experience.
Dcrist0527
01-28-24, 21:42
Just a heads up for those who go to Mxico: the 180 days is no longer automatic and it's at the discretion of the immigration officer.It's Mexico. It's always at the officer's discretion. LOL This has been an issue for years now. Mexican immigration officers took advantage of the covid years. During those years, they were able to get away with their scam because technically, tourism was not a legal reason to enter. However, that's no longer the case and if I was traveling into Mexico for a 5-day stay, I'd tell the immigration officer pushing the 180 day fee to go get his supervisor. The laws are no longer on their side to force us to spend the $35.
This was such a hot topic on the Tijuana boards for years. Only once did I buy the 180 day FMM, and that was by choice. I was going there so frequently, it was nice to have the FMM so I could just walk in the Mexican line.
I am going to look at airfare again though. I still think the cost and timing of flying to MDE is better from Mexico than San Diego or LA.
I am going to look at airfare again though. I still think the cost and timing of flying to MDE is better from Mexico than San Diego or LA.The cheapest way to get to MDE is to fly on vivaaerobus from Tijuana to Cancun and then buy a separate ticket from Cancun to Medellin on Wingo. You can get all the way from Tijuana to Medellin for less than $300 usd one way.
If I remember correctly viva usually has a direct flight that leaves Tijuana around 11 pm and gets you to CUN around 6 am and then the wingo flight leaves CUN around 9 am and you arrive at MDE around 12 noon.
The viva flight from TIJ to CUN should cost about $80-100 usd and the Wingo flight from CUN to MDE is like $150-175 usd. Of course buying your tickets atleast a week in advance and only taking a personal item of 10 kilos or less (a backpack).
Flying from LA or SD would cost significantly more.
BigButtDetecto
02-01-24, 01:12
The cheapest way to get to MDE is to fly on vivaaerobus from Tijuana to Cancun and then buy a separate ticket from Cancun to Medellin on Wingo. You can get all the way from Tijuana to Medellin for less than $300 usd one way.
If I remember correctly viva usually has a direct flight that leaves Tijuana around 11 pm and gets you to CUN around 6 am and then the wingo flight leaves CUN around 9 am and you arrive at MDE around 12 noon.
The viva flight from TIJ to CUN should cost about $80-100 usd and the Wingo flight from CUN to MDE is like $150-175 usd. Of course buying your tickets atleast a week in advance and only taking a personal item of 10 kilos or less (a backpack).
Flying from LA or SD would cost significantly more.Although I live in San Diego and it may be cheaper to fly through Mexico, I prefer to go through another country from sandiego or Lax; I had problems with the Mexican immigration sevices in the past that delayed my international flights.
I like a 2 days sto over in Panama city for instance.
LoveItHere69
02-04-24, 22:17
I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing!
I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing!So you don't have to pay it?
I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing!You should have just applied for the Permiso para Prorrogar permanencia they give you an extra 90 days. I came this time in August and I would have had to leave in Nov but I applied for the prorrogar in October and had to pay 125 mil or something like that at Banco de Occidente and then like 2 days later I got the permit in my email showing that I can stay until later in February.
I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing!Also another thing you could have done would have been to registered for Spanish classes at some cheap school and then applied for a student visa before your 90 days had expired. That one is more expensive than the prorrogar but it is for like 1 or 2 years depending on how long you're enrolled in the Spanish classes.
Also the digital nomad visa would have worked too if you can prove that you have at least $650 usd of monthly income from a remote job.
I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing!I'm pretty sure you won't be missed.
ChuchoLoco
02-05-24, 17:23
I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466). I chose not to pay it. I really doubt I will be returning. She informed me that so many tourists are overstaying and they are cracking down. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing!So you knew that overstaying would cost you but you did it again. I guess the laws and rules shouldn't apply to you. Typical Ugly American attitude. Sounds similar to most politicians attitudes. I worked for a government and it was incredible to see that they would pass ordinances but not want to follow them themselves. The rules were for everyone else. Like someone else said, you won't be missed. I guess you don't love it there anymore.
PigSavinBoy
02-05-24, 18:27
I overstayed last visit by 3 weeks and had to pay around $100. Well it happened again. I left CO 3 weeks ago. I overstayed another 3 weeks. But this time they wanted 1,800,000 pesos ($466)Yep they increased the fines sometime ago.
https://expatgroup.co/english/news/fines-migracion-colombia/
Dcrist0527
02-05-24, 21:06
The cheapest way to get to MDE is to fly on vivaaerobus from Tijuana to Cancun and then buy a separate ticket from Cancun to Medellin on Wingo. You can get all the way from Tijuana to Medellin for less than $300 usd one way.
If I remember correctly viva usually has a direct flight that leaves Tijuana around 11 pm and gets you to CUN around 6 am and then the wingo flight leaves CUN around 9 am and you arrive at MDE around 12 noon.
The viva flight from TIJ to CUN should cost about $80-100 usd and the Wingo flight from CUN to MDE is like $150-175 usd. Of course buying your tickets atleast a week in advance and only taking a personal item of 10 kilos or less (a backpack).
Flying from LA or SD would cost significantly more.I had a flight booked from SD to MDE on American for $189 with a 4 hour layover in Miami. One way ticket.
I had a flight booked from SD to MDE on American for $189 with a 4 hour layover in Miami. One way ticket.That's a super good deal. Did you buy it like a month in advance or something?
Naked Gunz
02-07-24, 17:11
. My penalty will keep increasing over time if I decide to return. I spend money on my visits and am punished yet millions of Venezuelans are in CO illegally and taking jobs and breaking laws and no big deal. Simply amazing!If you like that, how about your tax dollars going to pay $5000 per month to migrants in NY! F the homeless veterans crazy from Agent Orange.
Mr Enternational
02-07-24, 17:51
If you like that, how about your tax dollars going to pay $5000 per month to migrants in NY! F the homeless veterans crazy from Agent Orange.Yet nobody complains about the money that goes to chicks that have a bunch of illegitimate kids, Ukraine, or Israel. How is Brandon going to tell them to stop fighting then the next day give them money for more weapons?
Mr Enternational
02-07-24, 17:54
I worked for a government and it was incredible to see that they would pass ordinances but not want to follow them themselves. The rules were for everyone else.Girl I went to school with was responsible for passing a state law that you can not have a cell phone in your hand while driving. Guess who got caught by a trooper with a cell phone in their hand while driving a couple of months ago?
If you like that, how about your tax dollars going to pay $5000 per month to migrants in NY! F the homeless veterans crazy from Agent Orange.Yea I just read an article about how they are now finding Venezuelan gang members from tren de aragua in El Paso, TX. And Biden is giving them free cell phones and gift cards loaded with money and flying them to NYC, Chicago, and Miami.
There was also another article about Venezuelan immigrants attacking police officers in New York recently. And I know numerous Venezolanas who made it to the US and are prostituting when they get there. Biden has made a mockery of the US immigration system.
I was calling this shit 6 months to a year ago and no one wanted to believe me. The only person who can fix this mess is Donald Trump.
Dcrist0527
02-07-24, 19:04
That's a super good deal. Did you buy it like a month in advance or something?It was almost exactly a month in advance. I've since changed it since I cut Tijuana out of this trip. But I was shocked. I know I probably just opened the floodgates for our SoCal friends to infiltrate MDE. LOL But from what I was looking at, it looked like many of the flights were in that price range. As you point out, maybe a month out is the sweet spot.
DaddyLou37
02-08-24, 21:53
1st thanks to all the users of this stie / forum. This will be my third MDE trip and all the posts, advice etc here have made the trips so much less stressful and more enjoyable.
Any recommended masseuses / massage services? (FS preferred but if massage is good not needed.).
Last 2 trips I found some massages off milerotico but they were so so. FS which was nice but the girls could have been better. The airbnb next to us had some AMAZING girls leaving but didn't get their info. I know better is to be had.
This trip like my previous are work trips (tradeshow in MDE) so somewhat busy, just trying to set some things up when we land.
Also best site for girls? Lacelestina has fallen off I think and although our best luck is getting bar girls or girls from Park Llearas club, its nice to have some fun a phonecall away.
Staying at Paris by Lleras Park so close to the fun and guest are no issue as we have security.
Lastly any chefs? Found some online but super expenive. Like $100's per meal. Last two time we just ate out but would be nice to have some breakfast at the suite.
TIA.
LoveItHere69
02-09-24, 13:14
So you knew that overstaying would cost you but you did it again. I guess the laws and rules shouldn't apply to you. Typical Ugly American attitude. You missed the point stupid. I knew there would be a penalty. I just was not expecting it to be 4 times higher the second time. Just thought others would like to know.
I stayed 3 months and did another 3 month online extension. Then stayed 3 weeks past the 6 months allowed. I looked into the Spanish schools but it felt like work. 2 hours everyday, the cost, and all the work to enroll.
You are always crying about Americans. You really have a deep jealously of us.
You missed the point stupid. I knew there would be a penalty. I just was not expecting it to be 4 times higher the second time. Just thought others would like to know.
I stayed 3 months and did another 3 month online extension. Then stayed 3 weeks past the 6 months allowed. I looked into the Spanish schools but it felt like work. 2 hours everyday, the cost, and all the work to enroll.
You are always crying about Americans. You really have a deep jealously of us.I think it's fair to assume that the fees would have been the same as the first time or maybe just slightly higher but not 4 times more. It seems Colombia is becoming more of a ripoff than it used to be, whether from Banks like Davivienda and BBVA charging extra ATM fees or the government quadruplying their fees without notice, sounds like Colombia itself is just looking for ways to steal money.
For those of you who say Medellin isn't safe (I wouldn't know because I've never gone).
List the specific places that you believe are safer and are easy to pick up girls of quality. Also list their prices.
I just want to spend 20 to 80/100 max USD per girl for GFE and or BBFS.
So far, I've heard about Thailand. Don't know much about any other place.
For those of you who say Medellin isn't safe (I wouldn't know because I've never gone).
List the specific places that you believe are safer and are easy to pick up girls of quality. Also list their prices.
I just want to spend 20 to 80/100 max USD per girl for GFE and or BBFS.
So far, I've heard about Thailand. Don't know much about any other place.I have not been anyplace better for that than in the Philippines. It's the default, and prices are relatively low compared to mongering in other parts of the world. If you need bareback and like Asian girls, then the PI is in the place to be if you ask me!
Well right now, it's very easy to bareback girls everywhere. I just come back from Thailand Pattaya, and I did BBFS everyday! I was in Colombia few months ago in Medellin and I bareback girls 18 to 25 very easily. Just need to pay extra. But they're all OK. Only 1 didn't want.
In Cambodia and Philippines, they all do bareback!
I have not been anyplace better for that than in the Philippines. It's the default, and prices are relatively low compared to mongering in other parts of the world. If you need bareback and like Asian girls, then the PI is in the place to be if you ask me!
Well right now, it's very easy to bareback girls everywhere. I just come back from Thailand Pattaya, and I did BBFS everyday! I was in Colombia few months ago in Medellin and I bareback girls 18 to 25 very easily. Just need to pay extra. But they're all OK. Only 1 didn't want.
In Cambodia and Philippines, they all do bareback!I agree with, this has been my experience so far as well.
I agree with, this has been my experience so far as well.I don't think bareback is such a big deal these days. It's not like in the 90's where you got HIV and 2 or 3 years later you died.
Now a days even if you do get HIV you just have to take some pills or even injections you can get once every 2 or 3 months and you still live to be 80 years old. You can't even watch TV in the US without getting bombarded by all these commercials for drugs like Biktarvy and Cabenuva. The 20's probably has more in common with the 60's than it does with the 80's /90's in regard to unprotected sex.
And maybe with the exception of herpes, most other STDs are curable or have vaccines.
Radical Guy
02-17-24, 00:25
I've been traveling around Asia and Kenya, and I have a particular taste for girls with a natural, unshaven Bush. Is this common or even available in Colombia? I'm planning on visiting there next month.
RG.
I've been traveling around Asia and Kenya, and I have a particular taste for girls with a natural, unshaven Bush. Is this common or even available in Colombia? I'm planning on visiting there next month.
RG.I've never seen one there.
JohnnieCash
02-17-24, 18:21
I've never seen one there.Me neither. Might need ask one the favorites to grow it for you, if you're staying for longer.
Elvis 2008
03-05-24, 22:07
Other than Google Fi.
https://www.att.com/plans/unlimited-data-plans/roam-latin-america/
Google had this weird deal where they were charging for me whatsapp calls, and you could never could get ahold of anyone there. I liked their service but customer support was not very good and outside of photos, pixel phones have gone downhill. I have not a big AT&T fan so so far so good. If you have a woman in Colombia and travel with her, this is a great plan for her.
Mr Enternational
03-06-24, 04:45
I've been traveling around Asia and Kenya, and I have a particular taste for girls with a natural, unshaven Bush. Is this common or even available in Colombia? I'm planning on visiting there next month.
RG.Weird. I just got back from Kenya. The chicks I was with had minimal public hair. It did not appear they had shaved, but just like it does not grow there, the same as most of their heads. I think the hairy genes come from Europe, not Africa. There does not have to be a lot of it in order for it to be naturally unshaven.
Naked Gunz
03-06-24, 21:03
I have not been anyplace better for that than in the Philippines. It's the default, and prices are relatively low compared to mongering in other parts of the world. If you need bareback and like Asian girls, then the PI is in the place to be if you ask me!Hmmm, can't say I agree with that because the Phils is the only country I got drip, drip, drip-twice! So, send in your soldier at your own risk without his helmet.
Anyone here gotten dental work done here and have recommendations of orthodontics that speak english? Thinking it might be worth it to travel here for dental and grab a bite to eat of Colombian if you know what I mean afterwards every few months due to checkups. Specifically looking for braces, invisalign, veneers. Basic smile makeover.
Preferably in the Medellin area since the women are said to be better, however Bogota or Cartagena may be cheaper in flights.
Aristhotle
03-20-24, 04:33
First, my ultimate goal is to have as many true threesomes as possible. My fetish is girls being super lesbian before I get in the middle. Where in Colombia are the hotter girls (no streetwalking 5's or 6's. Looks matter for me) who tend to be bi? From what I gathered searching, it looks like Medellin is that spot. I don't mind what color the girls are. They just got to be 8 or higher. Which city likely has that, and in that city which club likely has that?
Second, my second goal is to do true threesomes with either beautiful bi negras (black girls) or mulatas (mixed girls). I don't mind doing it with non-negras. But I love me some South American chocolate. Where in Colombia can I find such beautiful negras? It seems like Cali would be it. But perhaps the coast is better? Can anyone with experience tell us?
I speak perfect Spanish so once I know where to go, I can get around. Anything I learn if I go, I will report here.
Hello,
I must say you are really experienced and I went through your SA response, which was detailed and really good. Can you please provide me with a few tips as I am planning to use SA and want to hook up with young, stunning girls and want to try bareback. Can you please provide a few information like how to kick off conversation, do I need to negotiate or talk about money in some point of conversation or what?
What are the red flags?
Thank you so much for your time.
I am in Medellin. I was just in Bogota and Barranquilla. I had a different girl every night in BAQ and found one that I will bang when I am there who is SB material and one keeper as purely sexual. I thought nowhere could top Bogota with SA but MDE has done so. First night here, I have had three dates, the most I have ever had at one time. Tomorrow, I am up to 4, and my inbox is flooded.
I don't get the hanging out all day. I tell them that I will meet them food or drink at my hotel and tell them to come upstairs. I was 3 for 3 on that tonight and in BAQ. I don't do all that shopping shit with any SA girl unless they are SB or GF material.
No, no, no! You never mention money. If a girl insists on, then she is a hooker. If you want to bang her and move on, feel free to do so, but you NEVER mention price unless they bring it up. Yes, you paste a simple message. Hi, how are you? I am in Medellin and would like to meet you, but that is it. Don't put price in the intro.
Uthred, I appreciate you doing the SA review, but you have to get what SA is. If you just want to fuck, go see the hookers. The best part of SA is for the college girl or professional with some money problems who is dipping her toe into the hooker pool but does not want to go all the way in. Sure, some will go all the way, but it is the place to go if you want to find the highest quality woman who provides.
In BAQ, it was sweet as could be with a 22 year old who wouldn't get with me the first night. She was stunning, long legs, thin waist, but didn't really show all that she had. But we repeated another night, and she said "Look, it has been eight months since I have had sex", as she s. L. o. W. l. Why put me inside of her. She was tight as hell, and the pussy was Clorox clean. I can't tell you what it feels like to have some 22 year old knockout coed who hasn't had it in months rocking on top of your dick, screaming with her many orgasms, and when she is done and I am done, puts her head in your arms like a long lost lover. She has already texted me multiple times saying that she misses me.
After that first night, she sent me a text saying, "I am so wet. I can't wait for you to fuck me tomorrow. ".
The other new BAQ chick I had was completely compliant. Five times, I said "Hey, I want you to suck my dick" and she did it. No question. Back massage. Anal. Bareback. She did it all. Her pussy was as clean as could be too, and she worked out five times per week. She even spent the night. All told I paid her 700 k for two full nights. Amazing.
Here in MDE, the response is so overwhelming I am not sure if I am going to see everyone I want to. I went for one girl who had been on the site for six days, and I was her first date. She was tall, thin, loose fitting dress, and I could not tell what her body was like. The clothes came off and shit, was it hot! Nice boobs. Tight body. Long legs. She just didn't know how to show it off. Again, she hadn't had sex for months, was an engineering student, and was totally compliant. BBBJ. Bareback. Pussy that smelled as clean as the wind. OMG, what a fuck! I gave her 200 k. Again, I gave her what I wanted to give her, not the other way around. I did two rounds with her and held off on shooting my load the second time because of what was to come.
The next one was another engineering student. Again, I am the first guy she has met on SA. About halfway through our drink, I am like, "You are smart as shit aren't you? You were top of your class in Bucaramanga (where she is from)", and she is "like Yeah, I was #1 in this school and this one. ". I got her upstairs and propositioned her. I told her I would pay her 50 k for the meet and her cab ride, but she was a no go on the sex the first night, but I was like, "Okay, we are doing it tomorrow". We are hanging out at the pool and this hot, super smart, engineering student who works three jobs will be riding me tomorrow. Yee HAA!! Again, I will set the price because none was mentioned.
Between BAQ and the first MDE girl, I was wore out and saw a third one. She was really cute in the face but had a belly. We had agreed on 50 k for the visit and 300 k if we did the deed, but between the BAQ women and my first SA girl, I wasn't paying 300 k for a girl who wasn't that hot and was hooker lite so I passed.
The first one starts at Oveido mall tomorrow at 10 AM and I will be seeing four more tomorrow. I hope that I can see them all.
Yes, SA is not cheap, but for me, it is the way to get the best pussy from the best women. If you just want to fuck, there is cheaper and easier out there for sure. You will send out at least 10 messages for every one you get back even in Colombia but when you get a keeper that is what makes it worth it.
I think the expense is more time than money, but I want to fuck someone who doesn't run for the door when we are done, who I like as a person, who I enjoy spending time with, and it is more than just about sex. Even the third date tonight, the hooker chick, was fun to talk to.
I am trying to set up a great fuck rotation of the highest quality in Colombia and so far I have one GF type in Bogota and one smoking hot fuck there, two in BAQ, and probably two in MDE in the first day!! Life is good.
World Travel 69
04-03-24, 05:57
I would recommend Cartagena.
It is not the Cheapest place to get laid.
But it could open your Eyes to the rest of the Country.
IMHO, CTG offers: sun, sin, wine, women and song. But the the kicker for me is the delicious ocean seafood. Hope you read up, and do your research. Buena suerte.
Go to Venezuela instead.Look up the story of this guy named Eyvin Hernández to see what happens to guys who go to Venezuela.
Look up the story of this guy named Eyvin Hernndez to see what happens to guys who go to Venezuela.Too bad the US doesn't reciprocate and do the same thing that Venezuela did to Eyvin Hernández to all the venecos crossing illegally into Eagle Pass.
Look up the story of this guy named Eyvin Hernndez to see what happens to guys who go to Venezuela.Look up the story of this guy named Eyvin Hernández to see what happens to guys who go to Venezuela illegally.
Many of them, and also many business people in Colombia and Costa Rica, use an inverted theory of supply and demand. If supply stays the same and demand falls, then they have to charge more to make up for the loss of demand.LOL! These countries are unable to embrace capitalism.
Too bad the US doesn't reciprocate and do the same thing that Venezuela did to Eyvin Hernndez to all the venecos crossing illegally into Eagle Pass.Oh yeah! That makes a lot of sense. The poor immigrants that cross into the USA the Venezuelan government is going to care about? WTF?
Oh yeah! That makes a lot of sense. The poor immigrants that cross into the USA the Venezuelan government is going to care about? WTF?Illegally enter Venezuela and get wrongfully detained but a Venezuelan illegally enters the US and get free plane tickets to NYC or Miami, free hotel stays, and $500 prepaid debit cards LOL.
So the guy caught in the no tell motel in La Estrella with two very young girls is, I am willing to be green money, is Colombian. He has not so far been identified. The guy was caught because he got into a fight with the girls that was so loud the motel contacted the authorities. Punter 101 procedures call for handing over the money to make the girls go away. But that's for another post. The motel got shut down for the standard 10 day "time out. " The girls were picked up in San Diego. Truth be told, they are not an unusual demographic among those who cater to the San Diego night crawling punters. The incident took place at 2 am It's interesting to me how noticeably different this case is being treated in the news compared to the American guy who is now on Interpol's radar. The whole reason motel's like the place in La Estrella exists is for dates that would not be admitted in more mainstream settings. Anyway, this isn't especially useful information. It's more entertianment than anything else for our group.
That is different. Your previous posts suggested that the US hold Venezuelans illegals and demand money from the Venezuelan government. That makes no freakin sense.
And why would anyone want to enter Venezuela especially illegally? There has to be a motive there.
Illegally enter Venezuela and get wrongfully detained but a Venezuelan illegally enters the US and get free plane tickets to NYC or Miami, free hotel stays, and $500 prepaid debit cards LOL.
Illegally enter Venezuela and get wrongfully detained but a Venezuelan illegally enters the US and get free plane tickets to NYC or Miami, free hotel stays, and $500 prepaid debit cards LOL.At the risk of starting a screaming match, I'm going to correct you.
If you illegally enter any country, and are detained, you haven't been wrongfully detained, because you entered the country illegally. Depending on the country, your detention could last for a few hours or a few years. Each country has the right to make their own laws and impose their own penalties.
The following information is 4 months old, but I received it directly from people who experienced it.
If you enter the United States illegally, for example by crossing the Rio Grande at Eagle Pass, Texas, and are detained by the US Customs and Border Control, you are placed in a detention center, where you will sit for 1 or more days, while a background check is ran. Except for your cell phone and identification, most of your belongings are thrown in a dumpster, including hairbrush, toothbrush, toothpaste, soap, almost everything except the clothes on your back. You also get to keep your money, provided you don't have too much. After a day or 2 you are released. Before being released, you must give a name, address and phone number of a responsible contact who is legally in the US, for example a citizen. The smart move is to immediately turn yourself in to immigration.
After release, there's a immigrant center run by a non-profit group which will give a meal and arrange for a $20 bus ride to the San Antonio Airport, provided you either have your own money to buy a ticket, or someone has bought you one. No shower facilities are provided at the detention center or immigrant center. You'll be getting on a plane after not bathing for 3 days, except for getting wet when you crossed the river. There is no free ticket, no free hotel stays, no $500 prepaid debit cards, you have to pay for your own bus ticket. There is only a requirement that you report to an immigration office within 2 months to arrange for an asylum hearing court date, where a federal judge will decide whether to grant you asylum, or send you back to your country of origin.
Because of a shortage of immigration judges, the wait for a hearing is 2 to 3 years. During that time you have no legal right to work, you receive no assistance of any kind from the federal government, although some states will allow you certain benefits. You are dependent on the charity of friends and finding whatever work you can, usually at a much lower pay, with zero benefits.
If you can find a job pimp (someone who provides a fake SSN and who gets paid by companies to provide undocumented labor) You'll be living in a crappy house, in a bad neighborhood, owned by the pimp, along with several other undocumented immigrants. Other than cheap mattresses thrown on the floor, or possibly on a couple of scavenged pallets, there's no furniture in the house. You will not have a bed to yourself. The rent and utilities will be just low enough to afford and it will be difficult to save enough money to improve your situation. The fake SSN grants you no benefits and it will only be accepted as identification by companies who are actively hiring undocumented immigrants to cut labor costs and avoid providing benefits.
All of the above is accurate for Colombians and I assume for all others from Central and South America. Perhaps when a Venezuelan arrives, a limousine shows up and whisks them off to a luxury suite where they will be granted their every wish and have their feet personally washed by Joe Biden himself. My Colombian friends did cross with some Venezuelans, and I assumed everyone received the same treatment. I'll ask them later.
After seeing the living conditions in the poorer sections of Medellin, learning of the crime and violence (which is much worse for the poor than for the gringos), and knowing it's nearly impossible for most to improve their situation, anyone who is willing to take the risks, endure the hardship and face the uphill struggle of establishing a good life in the US, has my sympathy.
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The following information is 4 months old, but I received it directly from people who experienced it.
If you enter the United States illegally, for example by crossing the Rio Grande at Eagle Pass, Texas, and are detained by the US Customs and Border Control, you are placed in a detention center, where you will sit for 1 or more days, while a background check is ran. Except for your cell phone and identification, most of your belongings are thrown in a dumpster, including hairbrush, toothbrush, toothpaste, soap, almost everything except the clothes on your back. You also get to keep your money, provided you don't have too much. After a day or 2 you are released. Before being released, you must give a name, address and phone number of a responsible contact who is legally in the US, for example a citizen. The smart move is to immediately turn yourself in to immigration.
After release, there's a immigrant center run by a non-profit group which will give a meal and arrange for a $20 bus ride to the San Antonio Airport, provided you either have your own money to buy a ticket, or someone has bought you one. No shower facilities are provided at the detention center or immigrant center. You'll be getting on a plane after not bathing for 3 days, except for getting wet when you crossed the river. There is no free ticket, no free hotel stays, no $500 prepaid debit cards, you have to pay for your own bus ticket. There is only a requirement that you report to an immigration office within 2 months to arrange for an asylum hearing court date, where a federal judge will decide whether to grant you asylum, or send you back to your country of origin.
Because of a shortage of immigration judges, the wait for a hearing is 2 to 3 years. During that time you have no legal right to work, you receive no assistance of any kind from the federal government, although some states will allow you certain benefits. You are dependent on the charity of friends and finding whatever work you can, usually at a much lower pay, with zero benefits.
If you can find a job pimp (someone who provides a fake SSN and who gets paid by companies to provide undocumented labor) You'll be living in a crappy house, in a bad neighborhood, owned by the pimp, along with several other undocumented immigrants. Other than cheap mattresses thrown on the floor, or possibly on a couple of scavenged pallets, there's no furniture in the house. You will not have a bed to yourself. The rent and utilities will be just low enough to afford and it will be difficult to save enough money to improve your situation. The fake SSN grants you no benefits and it will only be accepted as identification by companies who are actively hiring undocumented immigrants to cut labor costs and avoid providing benefits.
------------------Piggybacking on your post with information as current as last week. (a few of my Venezuelan chicas took the beast to Jaurez).
Pretty much sums it up it for the lucky ones who make it across. I know a few who were not allowed to enter and were turned over to Mexico Immagration who then held them anywhere from 1 week to 3 weeks then deport them down to Guatemala at the Tapachula crossing basically forcing them to start the journey through Mexico all over again. The ones who do make it in. After providing the information of where they are going, they are giving a GPS ankle monitor to make sure they get to their destination and are on house arrest until the date of the appointment where they see the Judge who removes the ankle monitor. Then its another wait for the asylum date which is years away. From what I'm seeing over here on the East Coast they are earning money however they can. Some fell into criminal activity such as stealing, grab and run brand, label merchandise from stores and they sell them over by Junction Bvld on the sidewalks, girls who want easy money are working the street over in 11368 on Rosevelt, some are "borrowing" other people SSN to create food delivery accounts for Uber or Grub Hub and doing food deliveries, also "borrowing" scooters to make the deliveries. The older women are selling candy on the subway similar to the young kids who were doing it 10 years ago, anyone who have taken the train here have heard the speech at least one "excuse me ladies and gentlemen I'm not her selling candy for no basketball team or charity I'm doing it for myself to have money in my pocket and stay out of trouble" its crazy over here but I've seen worse.
Piggybacking on your post with information as current as last week. (a few of my Venezuelan chicas took the beast to Jaurez).
Pretty much sums it up it for the lucky ones who make it across. I know a few who were not allowed to enter and were turned over to Mexico Immagration who then held them anywhere from 1 week to 3 weeks then deport them down to Guatemala at the Tapachula crossing basically forcing them to start the journey through Mexico all over again. The ones who do make it in. After providing the information of where they are going, they are giving a GPS ankle monitor to make sure they get to their destination and are on house arrest until the date of the appointment where they see the Judge who removes the ankle monitor. Then its another wait for the asylum date which is years away. From what I'm seeing over here on the East Coast they are earning money however they can. Some fell into criminal activity such as stealing, grab and run brand, label merchandise from stores and they sell them over by Junction Bvld on the sidewalks, girls who want easy money are working the street over in 11368 on Rosevelt, some are "borrowing" other people SSN to create food delivery accounts for Uber or Grub Hub and doing food deliveries, also "borrowing" scooters to make the deliveries. The older women are selling candy on the subway similar to the young kids who were doing it 10 years ago, anyone who have taken the train here have heard the speech at least one "excuse me ladies and gentlemen I'm not her selling candy for no basketball team or charity I'm doing it for myself to have money in my pocket and stay out of trouble" its crazy over here but I've seen worse.No ankle monitors here, but that's about it. There's usually a job that nobody is willing to do for them: cleaning houses, hauling laundry for a hotel, or working in a meat processing plant.
Naked Gunz
04-10-24, 04:02
No ankle monitors here, but that's about it. There's usually a job that nobody is willing to do for them: cleaning houses, hauling laundry for a hotel, or working in a meat processing plant.All I can say is if they pay a living wage then the fucking lazy Gen Z, Millennials will maybe, just maybe, be able to pay off their Psychology degree loans that Uncle Joe is making me pay for, never mind I made my money in Kandahar and Iraq, then invested that wisely. I got to fucking pay for women that want to go to school.
Hi, can you provide your list of Casa's and clubs? I am planning a trip in the next couple of months and this would save me going through all the pages.
Greetings gentleman,
I have recently been relocated back to the American continent thanks to Brandon and his idiotic politics, and thus, I am within range of Columbia. I have decided to go to Medellin in May, but I have never been to this beautiful city and don't know the lay of the land yet.
Now, I am not new to the hobby; my primary playground used to be Kyiv, Odessa, Moscow, and St. Petersburg. However, as you can guess, for obvious reasons, my company no longer operates in those markets, and thus, I am back in the Estados Unidos (hard facepalm). I am not new to Colombianas, as I used to be a big fan of Camp in Curacao (during its glory days) and even St. Martin bars. Therefore, I know that I like this type of cake a lot, but my old pals either got married or are halfway around the world. (yes, I am looking at you "retired" in Thailand lads). Traitors smh.
Thus, I have come to humbly request your advice, companionship, and wisdom. I don't mind the lone wolf game, but I always had more fun with friends and made some amazing life long friends through these kinds of shenanigans over the years.
I will be more than happy to return the favor and take you on a tour of your lifetime in Slavic paradise once this BS dies down, as I know every fish market imaginable in those lands..
Hello brothers around the world!
I'm a Korean planning a sex tour of Central and South America! I think I'll probably fly into Medellin next week!
So can you give me some tips and nightlife hotspots?
I've seen a lot of YouTube videos of women with huge asses wearing leggings and jeans in dense areas like squares. Can you point me to those areas? Are all women dressed in slutty clothes working girls? I want threesomes I also want information of threesomes girls with good teamwork.
Lastly, I'm Asian and in Asia we don't do waxing Is it true that waxing has been popularized in the West and especially in South America? Do chika hate it if you have hair? Do I have to go get waxed I don't want it to hurt meow.I wrote this post the other day and came across this today while Googling for information on sex trafficking in Medellíand.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/medellin-colombia-bans-sex-work-areas-us-tourist-found-minors-rcna146261
From this article, it looks like the mayor of Colombia has banned prostitution.
Guys, am I fucked?
I am an Asian young man going to South America for the first time.
I have already booked a flight to Medellin via LA and I can't cancel this booking.
Fortunately, I haven't booked any accommodations yet, but once I land in Medellíand airport, should I head to Bogotá?
People in Colombia, please tell me, is the sex trade in Colombia doomed? Or is it just a market bluff? Isn't Colombia a country run by drug cartels? Is it possible to do something like that?
Please. I had watched dozens and dozens of videos on YouTube of working girls with huge butts shaking their asses in jeans on the street and now I was on my way to South America to fulfill my dream.
Has sex trafficking definitely decreased? Or is it only affecting clubs and bars? I want to pick up a street hookerI want to pick up a girl with a big ass on a photogenic street! Please! Help me westerners!
I have been through hundreds of sex trafficking in Korea and Japan and I can tell you anything you want to know about sex trafficking in Korea and Japan. Please help me.
I wrote this post the other day and came across this today while Googling for information on sex trafficking in Medelland.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/medellin-colombia-bans-sex-work-areas-us-tourist-found-minors-rcna146261
From this article, it looks like the mayor of Colombia has banned prostitution.
Guys, am I fucked?Be careful. We have a lot going on here behind the scenes. Also do your research. There was an Asian dude killed not long ago.
i wrote this post the other day and came across this today while googling for information on sex trafficking in medelland.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/medellin-colombia-bans-sex-work-areas-us-tourist-found-minors-rcna146261
from this article, it looks like the mayor of colombia has banned prostitution.
Guys, am i fucked?
I have already booked a flight to medellin via la and i can't cancel this booking.
Fortunately, i haven't booked any accommodations yet, but once i land in medelland airport, should i head to bogot?
People in colombia, please tell me, is the sex trade in colombia doomed? Or is it just a market bluff? Isn't colombia a country run by drug cartels? Is it possible to do something like that?
Has sex trafficking definitely decreased? Or is it only affecting clubs and bars? I want to pick up a street hookeri want to pick up a girl with a big ass on a photogenic street! Please! Help me westerners! Please help me.the ban is only for 6 months. Relax.
It is not even a ban. City Hall has no authority to impose a ban on constitutionally protected legal activity. There would have to be a series of legislative procedures for that to happen. City Hall does have the power to restrict other activities such as liquor sales, access to public spaces, and enforcement of established laws like late night noise. Those are facts. My opinion about the facts is all of the restrictions, posters, and police deployments are politically motivated responses to criticism City Hall has been getting about foreign pedos various other issues.
the ban is only for 6 months. Relax.
I am fascinated by the public messaging. The latest turn is a Chinese tourist was released from custody after being caught with a 14 year old because the kid had presented a cedula. The media coverage is the interesting bit for me. They are now reporting that authorities are investigating whether criminal gangs are using what they call a new technique by providing false cedulas. Since the courts ruled the foreigner can't be blamed, the mysterious criminal gangs become the scapegoat. I've yet to see anything beyond passing mention of the families of young locals, or the economic circumstances that are related to these events. The right wing media, led by local newspaper El Colombiano, in my opinion won't touch the subject because they would be criticizing their readership and their owners.
Be careful. We have a lot going on here behind the scenes. Also do your research. There was an Asian dude killed not long ago.
I wrote this post the other day and came across this today while Googling for information on sex trafficking in Medelland.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/medellin-colombia-bans-sex-work-areas-us-tourist-found-minors-rcna146261
From this article, it looks like the mayor of Colombia has banned prostitution.
Guys, am I fucked?
I am an Asian young man going to South America for the first time.
I have already booked a flight to Medellin via LA and I can't cancel this booking.
Fortunately, I haven't booked any accommodations yet, but once I land in Medelland airport, should I head to Bogot?
People in Colombia, please tell me, is the sex trade in Colombia doomed? Or is it just a market bluff? Isn't Colombia a country run by drug cartels? Is it possible to do something like that?
Please. I had watched dozens and dozens of videos on YouTube of working girls with huge butts shaking their asses in jeans on the street and now I was on my way to South America to fulfill my dream.
First, it is the mayor of Medellin, not Colombia. And the ban, or whatever it is, applies only to a part of the city. Read back for more details if you want. The YouTube videos are probably not helping you. They paint a very distorted picture generally. And the sex trade in Colombia is not doomed, but the current moves may make it harder for foreigners as there have been actions taken in Cartagena and in Medellin to curb some of the real problems, plus some imaginary problems.
Bro. It seems highly likely that English may not be your primary language. Please note that the word "sex trafficking" has a significant negative meaning attached to it. We all know why you are coming to Medellin and let’s not call that “sex trafficking“. LOL.
By the way, there is no general ban on prostitution. Prostitution is almost a constitutional right in Columbia. No one can ban it. But cities are allowed to apply restrictions in certain areas for a maximum of six months. After that they have to either renew the restriction or drop it. That is the law.
Mayor, mainly under political pressure from opposition, decided to make these two restrictions. 1) street walking prostitution is not allowed in Parque Lleras and centro. 2) bars within the two blocks of lleras have to close by 1 AM. That is it. Rest of the life in all of Medellin is just as usual. Unless you were planning to come to the city exclusively for the street walkers in these two zones, there is no reason to be worried about the trip.
In my personal opinion, banning Street walking in the Gerace areas is a very good thing. I am strongly biased against street walking. Kind of like several of our other biological needs, I prefer all aspects of sex to be in private, including sourcing of it. Me personally, I would love to see Lleras go back to how it was six years ago. Please, nobody be upset with me. That is just purely a personal opinion. It is No judgment on people who feel differently.
I wrote this post the other day and came across this today while Googling for information on sex trafficking in Medelland.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/medellin-colombia-bans-sex-work-areas-us-tourist-found-minors-rcna146261
From this article, it looks like the mayor of Colombia has banned prostitution.
Guys, am I fucked?
I am an Asian young man going to South America for the first time.
I have already booked a flight to Medellin via LA and I can't cancel this booking.
Fortunately, I haven't booked any accommodations yet, but once I land in Medelland airport, should I head to Bogot?
People in Colombia, please tell me, is the sex trade in Colombia doomed? Or is it just a market bluff? Isn't Colombia a country run by drug cartels? Is it possible to do something like that?
Please. I had watched dozens and dozens of videos on YouTube of working girls with huge butts shaking their asses in jeans on the street and now I was on my way to South America to fulfill my dream.
Has sex trafficking definitely decreased? Or is it only affecting clubs and bars? I want to pick up a street hookerI want to pick up a girl with a big ass on a photogenic street! Please! Help me westerners!
I have been through hundreds of sex trafficking in Korea and Japan and I can tell you anything you want to know about sex trafficking in Korea and Japan. Please help me.
Bro. It seems highly likely that English may not be your primary language. Please note that the word "sex trafficking" has a significant negative meaning attached to it. We all know why you are coming to Medellin and lets not call that sex trafficking. LOL.
By the way, there is no general ban on prostitution. Prostitution is almost a constitutional right in Columbia. No one can ban it. But cities are allowed to apply restrictions in certain areas for a maximum of six months. After that they have to either renew the restriction or drop it. That is the law.
Mayor, mainly under political pressure from opposition, decided to make these two restrictions. 1) street walking prostitution is not allowed in Parque Lleras and centro. 2) bars within the two blocks of lleras have to close by 1 AM. That is it. Rest of the life in all of Medellin is just as usual. Unless you were planning to come to the city exclusively for the street walkers in these two zones, there is no reason to be worried about the trip.
In my personal opinion, banning Street walking in the Gerace areas is a very good thing. I am strongly biased against street walking. Kind of like several of our other biological needs, I prefer all aspects of sex to be in private, including sourcing of it. Me personally, I would love to see Lleras go back to how it was six years ago. Please, nobody be upset with me. That is just purely a personal opinion. It is No judgment on people who feel differently.Centro was not part of the decree. Only Poblado was mentioned in the decree and only a specific area outlined as a hexagonal area including parque lleras, parque poblado, parque presidential, and some other areas maybe Provenza or Calle 10.
Also according to reports here it is not even being enforced. The 1 am thing was being enforced for like 2 or 3 days and then it was changed to 3 am which is only 1 hour earlier than before the decree and I'm sure there are clandestine bars open even later.
In my personal opinion, banning Street walking in the Gerace areas is a very good thing. I am strongly biased against street walking. Kind of like several of our other biological needs, I prefer all aspects of sex to be in private, including sourcing of it. Me personally, I would love to see Lleras go back to how it was six years ago. Please, nobody be upset with me. That is just purely a personal opinion. It is No judgment on people who feel differently.I don't know that I agree that all aspects of sex should be private, but I do think that at the end of the day, streetwalking is not good for the hobby. It's too out in the open to the public to where it gives those who would like to ban all forms of prostitution altogether some easy ammunition to bolster their arguments for doing so. If we must err in one direction, then more discreet and low-key is definitely better overall.
World Travel 69
04-23-24, 03:39
You Don't like these?
Stay Home.
I don't know that I agree that all aspects of sex should be private, but I do think that at the end of the day, streetwalking is not good for the hobby. It's too out in the open to the public to where it gives those who would like to ban all forms of prostitution altogether some easy ammunition to bolster their arguments for doing so. If we must err in one direction, then more discreet and low-key is definitely better overall.
You Don't like these?I didn't say I didn't like them. I said that I didn't think it was good for the hobby. And no need for me to stay home. I have plenty of other options amigo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQYVq5cjE24
There are so many videos on YT warning against visiting Medellin. The sex scene is too dangerous with too many druggings that have led to a big rise in deaths of Western tourists. Can anyone with first hand experience comment?
How do you take girls back to your room if you know there is a high chance that you could get drugged and robbed? Any tips? Is it safe to take a girl back if you lock away your valuables and don't take your eyes off your drink?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQYVq5cjE24
There are so many videos on YT warning against visiting Medellin. The sex scene is too dangerous with too many druggings that have led to a big rise in deaths of Western tourists. Can anyone with first hand experience comment?
How do you take girls back to your room if you know there is a high chance that you could get drugged and robbed? Any tips? Is it safe to take a girl back if you lock away your valuables and don't take your eyes off your drink?Yes. If you use YouTube videos to get your information, Medellin is too dangerous to visit.
The same is true about scuba diving, if you use YouTube videos to learn to scuba dive, it's too dangerous.
Apparently there is a gross misunderstanding about YouTube. YouTube is an Entertainment Platform. The people posting there hoping their videos will be entertaining enough to go viral and get them enough subscribers and viewers to make money. Videos stating 10,000 people visited, fucked to their heart's content and went home smiling and satisfied don't go viral. However, a video saying 1 person out of every 50,000 visitors had something bad happen might just do the trick.
Of course the videos never point out the vast majority who have no problems, only focusing on the 1, who usually ignored all the red flags.
Yes. Medellin is dangerous. It's a city of over 4 million people with a high population density and a high poverty rate. High population, high population density and high poverty rate are major factors in determining crime rate. Add in all the tourists who go for the combination of drugs and cheap pussy and it gets worse. Now toss in people who get all their information from YouTube and it's terrible.
Staying safe in Medellin is possible if you follow some common sense rules.
1. Get the fuck off YouTube. It's for cute cat videos and to watch fat women fighting in Walmart.
2. Stay sober.
3. Know where you are going. Study maps and have a plan.
4. Don't advertise. Leave your jewelry and all the expensive shit at home.
5. Carry only what you need. You don't need a wallet, 8 credit cards and $2,000 USD in cash. You need a phone, preferably 1 that isn't holding access to all your accounts. You need the cash (in pesos) you're going to spend plus 10-20%. You might need an ATM card, plus copies of your passport main page and entry stamp page.
6. Remember that you have no friends. Anyone offering to help you find girls, drugs, places to party or anything else, probably has an ulterior motive. Same goes for anyone offering drinks, or to take you somewhere.
7. Be wary of anyone offering drinks, or offering sex upon first meeting (unless you're meeting them specifically to pay for sex). Same is true for someone pushing to go to your apartment.
8. Don't leave hookers unattended with your stuff. Don't allow them to get you drinks or food.
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