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It's not so much a green card and money with the real nonpros that have a heart. You have to understand, these gals grow up in a society where fidelity is very rare. They get fucked when they are who knows how old and they watch their parents, brothers, and sisters in this nonstop web of infidelity. This is not to say all Colombian families are this way. However, it is much more tolerated and accepted than in the US. In the US if the husband cheats on his wife you can instantly see divorce papers asking for 50% if not more. In Colombia... sheesh... husband with kids age 21 and 19 may have 4 girlfriends, anywhere in the ages of 15-23. Some may even be his daughter's friends and he may be the father of his daughter's friends kids.... and the middle-aged Colombian wife will stay with him. So... if you grew up seeing this and this is accpeted in your society, wouldn't you jump at the chance to actually have a man from overseas take you out of train-wreck future? It's their dream... not the green card or money(though this is it with the money diggers... to which you will have to learn to point out over time, which also isn't very easy), the sheer idea of a chance to be with someone who may actually give them the love they think they deserve and actually have a non-broken family. Ask any Colombiana what they see in a gringo.. old or young and the majority will answer... Seguridad. This menas a lot of things. Financial security, the sense of warmth and love.. .that someone actually loves them and isn't going to knock them up and leave them as a single mother... which is very very prevelant. So... I would not say it's solely green card and money for all the gals.
Yes, a lower class working chica with kids is more needy thus probably much easier if your goal is to get in the pants of a non-pro. However, I think you can throw almost any middle-class Colombiana in the mix of those that would love to have an extranjero that treats them with class and dignity and gives them security... look at their alternative... I explained it above. The above is their alternative... that or marry into a wealthy Colombian family... which.. yes the above happens quite often as well. So sure.. you may have no luck with upper class... though I know some upperclass married women looking for young whippersnappers. They could care less whether it's a Colombiano or a gringo... as long as they have the control and you'd get paid a healthy penny. Now how's that for a twist. Did you read where I wote earlier... Colombianas are horny. At all social levels.
i think its more like simple economics. with more time on a visit young working class chicas that have kids and are desperate to get out will do anything.
upper middle class chica who is childless, sophisticated, and educated that do not need your help will tell an old gringo to fuck off.
Money makes age a non-factor if you chase lower society women. but she wouldnt be with you for your sexy gray hair. she will however find those benjimins and a green card very attractive.
Poturu- A few more suggestions...
1) This is something I wouldn't pesonally do because part of the fun is the challenge of actually bonding with the chica and also I like to create REAL friendships. However, if you are truly short on time, my bet is Peter Solano's way of putting an ad in the local paper probably would work. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't do it... mainly becuase I feel the relationship is fake. Sure you may fall depply in love with someone and they with you as I did with a chica I met online. But we also corresponded by cam and mic for months before we met face to face. This newspaper ad will probably get a lot of jokers, money diggers, etc. But you will probably get responses from genuine chicas as well. Is it worth the cost? Well, if you want a GFE and don't want to pay a prostitute I'd probably say so. It also may lead to a lot of "meet once and then never again dates," which could rack up in costs... so my suggestion would be to meet them for a coffee, lunch, or happy hour beverage. As opposed to saying, lets hit the town on a Friday night with someone you've never met. You asked how much it would cost for a girlfriend... so my sense is this route is probably pretty cheap if you really fear that you will have a hjard time pulling in chicas. I think Peter charges like $100 or so. Certainly a lot more than the ad costs... but my sense is he helps out a lot in the process... and do you have a cedula? If not, I dont think you can put an ad in the paper on your own.
2) To get past the fear of rejection due to your age, and if you are really only going for a short period of time to Barrnaquilla. I would go sit on the corner of calle 93 and I think it's around 43b which is the address of Autonomo, a university in a stratus 5+ neighborhood. Sit on the corner, spend 1k pesos for a frsh orange juice.. maybe buy a bag of deditos for 500 pesos and say hello to every single chica that passes by you that you'd have the urge to bang. Go around 11:30am or 1:30pm. The majority of them have lunch break from 12-2pm. So get there before noon right before they leave or get there around 1:30pm... right before they come back. Heck there are people walking by there at all times of the day so it probabkly doesn't really matter when you do it. I just recommended those times as most likely they won't be in a rush to get to class. Ok, you said you speak fluent Spanish. So say hello, compliment them and strike up a conversation. Say anything. Sit there with your camera and tell them you are doing research on fashion. Or you are doing research on the differences between Costenas and Paisas... be it looks, attitude... anything you want. The thought that you compared them to a Paisa will spark up a conversation. You could even go as far as telling them you were just out on an afternoon walk and you thought you'd go look for a date for Friday night. Or make a joke.. make them laugh. Say any of these things. Do it for an hour and watch how many conversations you spark up. Watch how many phone numbers you get from absolute stunners. After that, your fear that there isn't enough time for a 56 yr old gringo to get into a relationship with an 18yr, 95 pound stunner, that makes you want to eat those jeans off her sexy body will absolutely go away. And... did you get those numbers because you are rich or because you spent a lot of money on them? Nope... I told you spend 1000 pesos on an orange juice and 500 pesos on a bag of deditos. If it fails... well... it won't. You will get some rejections and you will have some people look at you like you are a freak (probably moreso if they are in a group), but it will work. Ah... and don't back off of the group 3-4 hot chicas walking down the street due to what I just said about this freak aspect. Little may you know, but Colombianas love to be flattered and be told compliments. You'll get the rejections but you'll also probably be in the sack pretty soon. now, what do you do on the first date? I wouldn't try to get in the sack with them. Have fun, dance your ass off. Make her have the time of her life. Tell her you had the best night of your life at the end of the evening tell her you want to see her again. Invite her over on a weekday during lunch. If she comes... now you are in. If you have quite a few of these where you take them out, have the time of your lives and then they don;t show up for the lunch date... well then you need to look to the P4P market. I say this because 3 or 4 Colombianas that are shown a great time by their dream come true, which is give them a shot at getting out of the broken family web should be fighting over you... not canceling a lunch date. That's the reality. Maybe 3-4 isnt a large enough sample. Over time you will know if it's just you or not. But I will tell you that in my opinion a 56 yr old gringo has a much easier shot at getting an 18 yr old Colombiana girlfriend than an 18-24 yr old gringo. Why? Once again.. security. They think younger lads just want to get into their pants and really have nothing to offer them. They want a love and a potential family.... and economic security. Not Donald Trump.. many would be satisfied just to not have to struggle on a daily basis. They believe 100% in their head that a 56 yr old gringo can provide them this, regardless of whether you really can or can't. Ah.. and forget about the nude photos of non-pros on this trip. Do you want to develop a list of contacts for future trips or even a potential long-term girlfriend? All the nude photo question in the first few dates will do is put the thought in their mind that you are up to soemthing.
If you know both,
Barranquilla and Pereira I'd like to ask you some question please.
I am undecided if I will go to Barranquilla or Pereira. I don't like the prostitution scene. I like regular girls only. I am a goodlooking 50 old man.
There is not matter between the caribbean look and more european look, for me are the same. I'd like to know in what town there are more hot girls and what town is less expansive.
I'd like to find a girlfriend for 7-8 days only. If I will find a beautiful girl, can you tell me how much money have I to spend every days for her?
Thanks a lot for some info.
Yes you and I are very similar... I'm just not as good as you as having numerous girlfriends. I wish I could have the attitude you have all the time, I just start feeling too guilty about it. I waver on this almost weekly.. heck, daily.
Hahaha! I try to have not more than one solid girlfriend in each city, two at most. I hate drama, and hurting anyone. Keeping them in different cities makes things much easier :)
I just met a beautiful 18 year old in Barranquilla, she just started her studies in nursing, her mother is my age and she already calls me her suegra (mother in law).
I'll be back in Barranquilla shortly, making a stop in Cali and Medellin this week first.
I absolutely love the city of Medellin, have many friends in Cali, but the Barranquilleras me vuelvan loco (drive me crazy)!!
Oh chit... that's exactly what I tell my Barranquillera... that the "Barranquilleras me vuelven loco." That's exactly the reason I start feeling guilty, as I use the.. mi amor, necesito mis propios amigos y amigas. Thus I'm free typiclly one night a weekend... not to fuck, but to go out with others. But she's no dunce and I'm always honest with her as she'd fiind out anyways.
Hahaha! I try to have not more than one solid girlfriend in each city, two at most. I hate drama, and hurting anyone. Keeping them in different cities makes things much easier :)
I just met a beautiful 18 year old in Barranquilla, she just started her studies in nursing, her mother is my age and she already calls me her suegra (mother in law).
I'll be back in Barranquilla shortly, making a stop in Cali and Medellin this week first.
I absolutely love the city of Medellin, have many friends in Cali, but the Barranquilleras me vuelvan loco (drive me crazy)!!
Age is not my concern.
Hell I'm in my early twenties (24yrs).
Race though is another matter.
Being a really dark skinned guy (as dark as wesley snipes) I notice that I have much difficulty talking to chicks online. Eg. There was one chica from BAQ that I was corresponding with. Everything was fine until I sent her my photo. She never replied again.
I am aware there is some prejudice but how much I don't know.
I just hope Colombia isn't like Mexico. When I was there the men especially were very racist.
Age is not my concern.
Hell I'm in my early twenties (24yrs).
Race though is another matter.
Being a really dark skinned guy (as dark as wesley snipes) I notice that I have much difficulty talking to chicks online. Eg. There was one chica from BAQ that I was corresponding with. Everything was fine until I sent her my photo. She never replied again.
I am aware there is some prejudice but how much I don't know.
I just hope Colombia isn't like Mexico. When I was there the men especially were very racist.
Hola quedos amigos,
I am reading wonderful post about Barranquilla here but I think there is a problem. I will have 8-9 free days in July-August only and I know Barranquilla is very hot. In that time the heat is deadly. Can you tell me if it is true, please? I am greatly saddened by the news.
Thanks
Yes, it's hot in Barranquilla, the girls are ugly, and the food is aweful. Another destination would be better for you.
ps ... your spanish above does not suggest fluency as you've stated.
Good luck in your choice of new destinations.
Master Yoda
03-28-07, 14:52
Yes, it's hot in Barranquilla, the girls are ugly, and the food is aweful. Another destination would be better for you.So true, perhaps Amstedam would be a better place. What about Ukraine? OR if you want to keep it latin how about Chile?
Thats just a joke Poturu. Seriosly bro the heat is a good thing. theres no need to be sad. its what makes the women so passionate.
I personally like the idea of it getting so hot that I am all sweaty in between the sheets with some hot latina in the afternoon.
Fuck sake these ideas are killing me. I need to find time to be back in Latin America. These thoughts are enough to make me insane.
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Im sorry but I don't agree with you. For example do you mean that the girls of Pereira are less hot than las chicas de Barranquilla? I don't think it. eheheheh ...
OK already, go to Pereira! Big deal.
Dear amigo, thanks for your advice but I will do the opposite of what you tell me. ;)
First recipient of my ignore list :)
I like your style amigo! Not your writing style, long sentences / paragraphs, but your style with chicas, si :)I agree with Ricker, who has mentioned this a few times, the contnt is great, but it is a headache to read, a few more paragarphs would help us out a lot.
Hunter
Master Yoda
03-28-07, 17:46
Dear amigo, thanks for your advice but I will do the opposite of what you tell me. ;) Well Poturu, me and the other members have wasted countless minutes giving you ideas and sharing our experiences only for you to through it back in our faces. That's not nice
Master Yoda
03-28-07, 18:49
I serious envy the Expats. They get to live there and do what ever the fuck they want. We with limited time have to come up with complicated ways of getting laid. These guys can simply afford to get rejected and try the same girl again and again or persistantly until she finally breaks or leave her and carry on the hunt for another girl. They cna line up dates after dates after dates. I'll bet there are guys that can fuck morning, afternoon and evening although it would be bad for your health. They also don't have to worry about marrying them and bringing back to the US only to have her snatch by some young prick.
I should look into going expat in Colombia rather than somewhere else. I could spend up to $4000 dollars a month on a retirement plan. You got the sun, the babes, the beaches in CTG. what more could a guy ask for. You can also travel to other areas in Colombia and LAM. I'll bet i could live an OK life.
Is there anyway that I can look up properties to buy and rent in BAQ?
Plus where would be a good place to live. I mean an upper class place that you can turn into a pussy magnet.
Poturu- Why have you all of the sudden changed to Periera? WHat do you know about Pereira, and why did you make this comment? I understand, maybe Ricker hasn't responded to many of your posts about Barranquilla, but maybe he was smart not to. After all, you are questioning whether he knows about the chicas from Pereira. My sense is he knows much more about the chicas of Pereira than you or I will ever know. 4 hour bus ride from Cali... hint,hint.
Are you really going to let the heat of Barranquilla change your plans? It's not that bad, ok it's hot. But it's not like Arizona in the summer or anything, and certainly you will have A/C. I just am shocked to see you say.. ok I'll switch to Pereira. What do you know about Pereira?
Dear amigo, thanks for your advice but I will do the opposite of what you tell me. ;)
Poturu- I just wnet back and read all your posts and now I thik I can safely say that you probably will not end up in Barranquilla or Pereira. In the last 18 months you have asked people about chicas in basically every continent on the planet. Questions are always the same... where is it free, can I get a young chica. If you would spend less time worrying about what you can or can;t get and more time honing your game you may have some success. Based or the questions I see you asking overr the last 18 months on a zillion different countries on ISG my sense is you will never have a free GFE or girlfriend for that matter in Colombia. Your approach is all wrong. Some people get it and some people don't. You are a long way away in my opinion to understanding how to get a gal. It starts with the basics and understanding the female race and what makes them tick, what turns them on, etc. My best advice for you is to hit the local book store and buy a few books on relationships and rapport building... they will do you much more good than the responses to your questions on these boards. Just my honest opinion.
Poturu- Why have you all of the sudden changed to Periera? WHat do you know about Pereira, and why did you make this comment? I understand, maybe Ricker hasn't responded to many of your posts about Barranquilla, but maybe he was smart not to. After all, you are questioning whether he knows about the chicas from Pereira. My sense is he knows much more about the chicas of Pereira than you or I will ever know. 4 hour bus ride from Cali... hint,hint.
Are you really going to let the heat of Barranquilla change your plans? It's not that bad, ok it's hot. But it's not like Arizona in the summer or anything, and certainly you will have A/C. I just am shocked to see you say.. ok I'll switch to Pereira. What do you know about Pereira?
Master Yoda
03-28-07, 22:17
My best advice for you is to hit the local book store and buy a few books on relationships and rapport building... they will do you much more good than the responses to your questions on these boards. Just my honest opinion.
doubleyourdating.com
mysterymethod.com
sosuave.com
smoothnsweet.com
There is a book by a pick up artist called Dane Bowers
There is another book by another pick up artist (PUA) by the name of The Lay guide by Tony Clink. There is even a section on how older man can smooth talk young women.
One more book called The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists by Neil Strauss.
These are all good books.
Whilst we are on the subject of BAQ and the topic is still hot.
What is a good gift for a girlfriend? I mean things to bring her for the first date. Candy, Flowers, etc etc.
Also what are some smooth lines in Spanish? How how do you say you look so beautiful or you look so nice or I like your hair. You get what I mean, Like compliments and stuff. Just give a list of nice compliments.
And when your in the sack what are some dirty things to say.
Like how do you say:
1) get on top
2) faster
3) slower
4) keep going
5) not so loud?
4) keep going = continua así
5) not so loud? = no tan fuerte?
I don't know if the translation of n°3 and 4° writings are right because I don't understand fine the english meaning of the writing.
Porturu's Spanish is about 1000X better than mine, so I hesitate to comment, but I'd say
4.) keep going = sigue
5.) not so loud = calmate, or
tranquilo, or
callate (the last if you want to tell her to shut up & I'd follow that with "por favor")
After an afternoo toghether, in my opinion the best thing you have to say:
I have passed a wonderful afternoon, I will remember it always. I like your company beacuse you are a nice girl. Then you have to bring out her qualities, her beauty telling her hhas beautiful eyes. "tu cara es muy linda, tu eres una chica guapa y simpática. Tus ojos son muy hermosos y profundos".
1) get on top = ponete en cima
2) faster = mas rapido
3) slower = mas lento
4) keep going = continua así
5) not so loud? = no tan fuerte?
I don't know if the translation of n°3 and 4° writings are right because I don't understand fine the english meaning of the writing.
I hope it hel you
well for 1) get on top, the best would be to say "Subete" pronounced more like "suete" very lightly pronouncing the 'b' or also as a 'v'. This is what they will say when they want you to mount them.
As far as.. 5)not so loud.... a simple, soft shhhhh is quite sufficient.
3) Slower... "mas lento" works, but "despacio amor" seems to be a bit better for the moment for this kind of action.
Also, last but not least...4)Keep going. I find that a simple "que rico" or "perfecto" keeps them doing what you are currently enjoying.
Try these out. Hope this helps
I could not agree more. The ads work just wonderful. I had Peter place two ads for me so far. One for girls. I did get quite a few replies and man I`ll tell you, it got me a real hottie, and she works for Avianca and flies to America often, so I did not even have to bother with visa, tickets and all. We still see each other occasionally.
The other ad was about real estate. And it gave me a pretty good idea as to what the market there is like. I am sure I will use his services again in the future.
I Totally recommend this service. Cheers, PSIIAlso besides doing business with him,I feel that Peter is is nice guy who doesn't jerk anyone around.His service rocks!
Black dudes who speak Spanish? Or Black dudes who don't?Both,
But I speak passable Spanish.
Enough to sustain a 5 min consversation.
Mr Enternational
04-13-07, 02:38
My girlfriend tells me she has seen black Americans pretty busy down there with BAQ ladies of all colors.So your girlfriend mentioned me huh?
I have never come across a Colombian who is prejudice. Maybe it is my naivity. While there I have never sensed a problem and on the internet Colombian women are the first to speak to me. I have come across many profiles from Brazil or Peru that women specifically say no black men or white men only, but never Colombia. I even had a problem last week with a hooker in Lima. She got mad and left because I would not give her the money first. She told me that she is a prostitute but she has dignity. She then said that I was black and I don't have any dignity. That really confused me. I was thinking to myself, "I don't? I guess I know now."
I think that in most cases it is not really prejudice from a racism standpoint. I think the whole thing originates socio-economically. In many countries the case holds that the darker a person is, the poorer he or she is. The poorer women are trying to make a come-up and think the whiter the guy is, the better chances she has. The women who are already educated and well off care less about skin color. That is just MHO.
Hoof Hunter
04-13-07, 21:40
Both,
But I speak passable Spanish.
Enough to sustain a 5 min consversation.
First piece of advice, esp. if you choose BAQ as a destination, you'll need to work on your Spanish. 5-10 mins ain't much. You'll get played and won't even know it until after it happens. The costenos speak in all kinds of slang and very rapid. I've happened to meet a couple of non-Spanish speaking foreigners over the years in BAQ. They had no idea what these chicks were saying, esp. when they spoke with another chick. I caught a few exchanges, not the most convincing exchanges, to say the least. Now if you're dealing with a puta, 5 mins is fine.
Second piece of advice. Lose the hang-ups on race. Check that shit at the US airport gate. Yes, there are issues with race and discrimination in Colombia, Brasil, DR, Peru, Ecuador, etc. It's THEIR issue, not yours. You're just visiting.
There are of our caucasian sisters in the USA that don't want to get with brothers either. Shit happens. If you see a chica's profile that has racial shit in it, move on to the next chick. Simple as that. THAT chick has hang-ups from jumpstreet. Could be race, social status, weight, financial, lack of education, non-exposure to worldly thinking other than the E! channel. What's the point in trying to deal with her? Leave her in her misery, waiting for her prinicipe azul to fall into her lap...on the internet. The writing's already on the wall for future issues with her, esp. if she's on an internet site. You wouldn't deal with that in the US or whatever country you're in. Don't let physical beauty cloud your judgment.
I've rarely experienced problems in BAQ, esp. with race/discrimination. It's happened, but whatever. It ain't MY problem. I've never had a problem with chicas in regards to race in BAQ, in Colombia for that matter. On the contrary, I have more chicas (non-pros and pros) than I can deal with on my limited trips.
Mr Enternational
04-18-07, 15:06
[QUOTE=Hobby Rookie]I have never seen that. Once your profile is approved and uploaded, everyone can see it, even men. The only option you might have is who you want to be contacted by, in most cases everyone or gold (paying ) members only. If it is a Colombian site you could specify you want to be contacted by girls from MDE only. Mr Enternational says " Put your profile in Spanish" Now, what happens to those of us who the only Spanish word we know is ADIOS? I guess bilingual guys have all the advantages, although I would dare to say I have not done that bad. I chose quality over quantity. PSIIYou have to start somewhere. I am in the airport in Bogota now headed back to the states. My first time here in Colombia was September 2005. I didn't speak a lick of Spanish, although I did speak Portuguese and French. I came to meet a lawyer from Cucuta who I met on the site. And she definitely didn't speak English. She rode the bus 14 hours from her house to be with me. Since then I don't know how many times I have been to Colombia. My Spanish has improved drastically. I have never had a class or anything. I only learn from talking to chicks from the site or in country by email or phone. Miracles do happen.
I just came through Immigration and met an officer who doesn't speak English. I threw some smooth lines on her. When I was in line I saw her smiling, so I went to her line and started speaking English. She said she didn't speak English so I started Spanish. I asked her was she so happy because she was about to start vacation or because her boyfriend sent her some flowers. She said she didn't have a boyfriend. We exchanged information and the next time I am in Bogota the rest will be history.
I did a little PFP recon in Barranquilla while I was there.
Checked out Juernes on both Monday and Tuesday nights ... verrrrrrrry slow, slim pickins.
Luckily there was a new place down the street, called Pasarelas or something like that. Though better, it was pretty slow also.
There was a couple cute chicas in there, I hooked up with a nice Calena and fun fun fun :)
IMHO Barranquilla is fantastic for meeting non-pro chicas, and though PFP is available, it's nothing like Bogota, Cali or Medellin.
Suerte amigos!
Hoof Hunter
06-01-07, 06:04
BAQ P4P doesn't come close to the top 3. It is what it is. That's where the non-pros/semi-pros come in. And as you well know, that's really easy in BAQ.
Juernes and Pasarela Show are best during the weekends. During the week, it's very hit or miss. I lucked into a couple of hot paisa siliconas at Juernes a couple of months ago. TLN cost me COP120.000 each for some hardcore sexing. Unfortunately, they are now in Panama.
An older buddy of mine pulled a nice chica out of Pasarela. TLN only cost him COP70.000, but he had to pay a salida (forget how much). None charged at Juernes, at least I've never paid one. Pasarela does hold strip shows in the evening, even had a dance troupe performance there. So that's a way to kill time, if bored.
I was in BAQ a few weeks ago for a wedding. Yeah, talent was lacking in both places. Forced me to call me non-pros to spend the night with. Que suerte. LOL!!!
If you're not the scary type, Plaza de las Cervezas down on Murillo and approx. cll. 20 is pretty decent for non-pros during the week. It's a busy area, busy street, shit does happen, but they do have decent security there. We met some hot 19-24 yr old chicas there, but their dudes eventually showed up. Obviously, only beer served, but we gave the security dude COP 5.000 to look the other way while we brought our rum in and drank it discreetly. We watched some local young dude get his ass smacked up my his girl, who caught him cheating. Damn camera phones. More funny than scary. LOL!!!
Also, La Arenosa is always a late night option throughout the week. A bit dicey, but some decent talent does pass through there. However, during the week, it is hit or miss. On the weekend, more bodies, better talent. We've done well there, when something worth it came through. COP 70.000 usually did the trick for TLN.
Stopped in La Nena (I believe that's the name) right next to La Troja. Should be called La Vaca. Talent was way worse than Juernes and Pasarela. Just one faux blond big-tittied chick with a gut. She was the top looker there, and that really wasn't saying much. LOL!!! We didn't even stay long enough to get a beer.
Best lookers for P4P will be in Lucitania. Let no one fool you, or steer you otherwise. The company will cost you more than other spots, but some of the chicas there were cool drinking company and convo. Might've been decent jump-offs had I gone down that road.
In BAQ, it's great to know where the P4P spots are, but only as a last resort fallback. Not very costly, mostly a waste of time, but sometimes you get lucky.
Suerte
I did a little PFP recon in Barranquilla while I was there.
Checked out Juernes on both Monday and Tuesday nights ... verrrrrrrry slow, slim pickins.
Luckily there was a new place down the street, called Pasarelas or something like that. Though better, it was pretty slow also.
There was a couple cute chicas in there, I hooked up with a nice Calena and fun fun fun :)
IMHO Barranquilla is fantastic for meeting non-pro chicas, and though PFP is available, it's nothing like Bogota, Cali or Medellin.
Suerte amigos!
hoof ...
juernes was almost scary ... saw a couple whales and some toothless chicas only.
outside the bar was a mother looking for a boyfriend for her cute pregnant daughter. actually it was the mother-in-law, said her son took off after getting the girl pregnant. i threw a few pesos in the [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) fund and headed for pasareles.
the calena i met in pasarela was great. i was so happy to see a few cute chicas after the juernes experience, i bought every chica in the place a cerveza ... only about 6 chicas there at the time. big spender :) jajaja.
she (the calena) even wanted to go out in the daytime for lunch and a movie but i had the novia (girlfriend).
the good news is for me, got her number, and she'll be back in cali soon, and that's where i hang quite a bit. add another to the harem :)
suerte amigos!
Hoof Hunter
06-01-07, 22:19
but i pulled this and her cousin out of juernes one weekend.
juernes is hit or miss, as i've never seen anything there remotely similar to this chica and her cousin. but it's a cool place to drink cheap and see vacas y aveces solo aveces something nice. plus, it's pretty liberal there. reminds me of the santa fe spots in bogota.
pasarela is more upscale of the two. many of the chicas there are very nice company. most of them live there behind the club. so tln will include a salida. the 2nd chick in the pics works there. really cool chick from la guajira.
now back to not posting any pics. dudes on this sites violate all kinds of rules with pics.
hoof ...
juernes was almost scary ... saw a couple whales and some toothless chicas only.
outside the bar was a mother looking for a boyfriend for her cute pregnant daughter. actually it was the mother-in-law, said her son took off after getting the girl pregnant. i threw a few pesos in the [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) fund and headed for pasareles.
the calena i met in pasarela was great. i was so happy to see a few cute chicas after the juernes experience, i bought every chica in the place a cerveza ... only about 6 chicas there at the time. big spender :) jajaja.
she (the calena) even wanted to go out in the daytime for lunch and a movie but i had the novia (girlfriend).
the good news is for me, got her number, and she'll be back in cali soon, and that's where i hang quite a bit. add another to the harem :)
suerte amigos!
Mr Enternational
06-04-07, 19:14
Well it sure as hell doesn't make a lot of since to have the music up loud when I am trying to converse with the chicas in order to see which one I want to take upstairs. My Spanish already isn't A1, and to try to interpret and talk through all of that racket just plain sucks. And Juernes can't hold a candle to Murillo. It seems that Juernes was where they send the old, worn-out chicas to die. And to have a nerve to charge four times that of Murillo is insane. Another good thing about Murillo is that the night I went there was a free concert at Vivero. There were wall-to-wall non-pros inside and outside of the store.
It's just the vibrancy that separates costeños from the rest. What makes BAQ renown throughout the country. What makes the costeñas hotter than the rest.
It's also a Caribbean thing, from Cuba to the DR to Jamaica. Many similarities between the cultures of the Caribbean islands and costeños.
LocoGringo
06-05-07, 00:21
I haven't posted in a while and hate to put a "negative" report on Colombia but need to get this done. 1st, I have been living/traveling to various parts of Colombia (live in Cartagena) for the past 6+ years. I have made the trip at least 1x monthly during that time and came to feel that where I visited in Colombia (Cartagena, Barranquilla, Bogota, Medellin, Bucamaranga, Pasto) was at least as safe for me as South Florida. I have visited casas in all those cities and had numerous adventures that are fondly remembered.
In my apartment in Cartagena there were 3 men from Medellin renting the ajoining apartment. After 24 hours of music so loud that it was heard in the reception (turns out the administration and other apt dwellers were scared to confront them) I knocked loudly and asked that they turn the f----- music down. I went back to my apt and 2 of them knocked on my door, one wanted to fight, he was obviously fucked up, kept pounding his chect and saying "you want to fuck with me!" He moved toward me and then my mistake, told him fuck you, you got it, he pulled a 45 Auto out and aimed , being loco but not entirely stupid I said you win and closed the door. He then kicked the door down, came after me with the 45, been a long time but I managed to circle the apt and got out. Ahhhh, went to the Tourist Police, ended up with about 12 at the apt, they found a permit for him to carry a gun. Seems all a Colombiano has to do is go to the police station and register to carry a gun. After 1 hour the decision was made that he agreed to be good and if anything else happened he would be in trouble, no shit. The police say I need to file a report with the other police in Centro, and that he was scared because I was bigger than him, what the fuck! Anyway, 2 nights later coming back from dinner 2 of the same police pulled me over and since I did not have a D/L with me they were going to write me a ticket and tow my car. I knew they only wanted a propina, they had the guns and I am not Colombiano, resident Visa, yes but no fuckin Colombiano.
Now to Barranquilla. When I was leaving I ran into 2 Americans that were spooked to the hilt. It was their 2nd trip to Colombia, 1st was great and this time they flew into Barranquilla on Avianca. They cleared customs and caught a cab to go to the Prado(nice hotel, not so chica friendly). Some background, they were wearing their big Rolexs, not sure of chains. They had no one waiting on them, took a random taxi. They were pulled over 5 minutes out of the airport and robbed at gunpoint for all cash ($5000+), id, etc. The cab driver did not seem upset according to the guy I spoke to. Anyway, they stayed at the Prado that night, caught a taxi to the Hilton in Cartagena, changed their flight ($1000) and flew home the next day. They did not venture out of the Hilton until leaving for the USA. If these guys are members please post corrections and insights.
Anyway, if I could get pics to post on this site I would show why we go there and will continue to, chicas, period. Got some friends there but have more in the USA. I am going back next week, maybe do my bi-monthly to Bucamaranga.
I am not trying to discourage anyone from trying Colombia, just know that, like anywhere danger is possible and the police are not usually any help. I asked my girlfriend what good the report would do and it seems that if I was killed they wanted to know who the suspects are, fuck that.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
It's all about the bank on the US side. People need to get ATM cards for US Banks that will pay other banks ATM fees and not charge you the International Currency conversion fee... ala 1-3%. Compass Bank is 1% and pays for the fees. However you slice it, Davidienda is the way to go on the Colombia side. They don't charge a fee... thus if you can find a US ATM card that doesn't charge a Currency Conversion fee it's irrelevant whether or not they pick up ATM fees if you always use Davidienda.
Western Union never has been and never will ever give you as good as rate as ATM cards. You should look into a Paypal account if you have US residency as that would save your customers some cash. Both the Western Union fees and the shitty conversion rate.
LocoGringo,
Thanks for posting this. I tend to get pissed off by loud music as well. So far all I have done is call the porteros. If they can't handle it, they can and do call the police. Of course I know that the police are pretty useless.
Did I ever tell you about my buddy who owns a house near Parque Lleras in Medellin? He was kidnapped from a taxi on the way in from Rio Negro by two guys on a moto and the taxista in Jan. of 2006.
Greetings Everyone,
I recently cleaned up this thread by moving a number of report by Peter Solano and a number responses thereto made by other forum members, to another thread titled "Peter Solano in Barranquilla".
I have also changed Peter Solano's membership permissions so that he is now limited to posting only in his thread. This should keep the combative parties apart. FYI: I don't care to conduct an investigation to determine who started what.
I have also moved a number of reports in the subject of how to meet Colombian women / how to get a Colombian girlfriend by advertising in the local newspaper and/or in other websites TO a new thread titled "Barranquilla - Advertising to meet Chicas"
This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.
There's an hour of my life I'll never get back.
Thanks,
Jackson
Escort King
06-06-07, 00:12
Greetings Everyone,
I recently cleaned up this thread by moving a number of report by Peter Solano and a number responses thereto made by other forum members, to another thread titled "Peter Solano in Barranquilla".
I have also changed Peter Solano's membership permissions so that he is now limited to posting only in his thread. This should keep the combative parties apart. FYI: I don't care to conduct an investigation to determine who started what.
I have also moved a number of reports in the subject of how to meet Colombian women / how to get a Colombian girlfriend by advertising in the local newspaper and/or in other websites TO a new thread titled "Barranquilla - Advertising to meet Chicas"
This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.
There's an hour of my life I'll never get back.
Thanks,
Jackson
great job mate
Hoof Hunter
06-06-07, 06:45
In my apartment in Cartagena there were 3 men from Medellin renting the ajoining apartment. After 24 hours of music so loud that it was heard in the reception (turns out the administration and other apt dwellers were scared to confront them) I knocked loudly and asked that they turn the f----- music down. I went back to my apt and 2 of them knocked on my door, one wanted to fight, he was obviously fucked up, kept pounding his chect and saying "you want to fuck with me!" He moved toward me and then my mistake, told him fuck you, you got it, he pulled a 45 Auto out and aimed , being loco but not entirely stupid I said you win and closed the door. He then kicked the door down, came after me with the 45, been a long time but I managed to circle the apt and got out. Ahhhh, went to the Tourist Police, ended up with about 12 at the apt, they found a permit for him to carry a gun. Seems all a Colombiano has to do is go to the police station and register to carry a gun. After 1 hour the decision was made that he agreed to be good and if anything else happened he would be in trouble, no shit. The police say I need to file a report with the other police in Centro, and that he was scared because I was bigger than him, what the fuck! Anyway, 2 nights later coming back from dinner 2 of the same police pulled me over and since I did not have a D/L with me they were going to write me a ticket and tow my car. I knew they only wanted a propina, they had the guns and I am not Colombiano, resident Visa, yes but no fuckin Colombiano.
LOL!!! Really sorry to hear about your experience and glad that you lived to tell the story. I do hope that you learned something from it. A lot of these small-statured Colombians legally carry equalizers. A LOT. And as I've been witness to, doesn't take much for them to use them.
I truly hope that you don't take any of this as condescending or anything like that. That really isn't the intention. I just hope that next time you'll think a bit clearer. This can serve as insight for others into real situations that do occur in Colombia. And hopefully, people can learn something from it and make appropriate decisions.
They'd been partying and/or blasting music for 24 hrs or so in CTG. You think they might not have been doing coke??? Administration and other residents are cautious, yet you choose to confront them??? Not your job, man. Nor will the police take your side, you're just a visitor. Let reception deal with it, one way or another. Be adamant about it. This is what you pay for. For your decision to underestimate everyone else's reasoning or fear, you ended up with your life possibly in danger. Not a good situation.
There are real reasons why many Colombians, esp. men, are overly-polite. Foreigners really need to TRY to understand this. It's better, i.e. safer, to just be polite to everyone. Colombians cope with a lot of crap for self-preservation reasons. They are survivors. These kinds of situations escalate all the time, anywhere, and generally over nothing. I'd say about 90% of my Colombian buddies there, pack guns daily for personal protection, having previously been victims of crimes. This is pretty common. No need to take silly risks, especially if you're just visiting. If you find yourself in a position where things escalate, make the smart decision. Walk away and let someone else handle it. That's not being a pussy, just being smart.
I was just reading another site dedicated to Colombia, and a bunch of male foreigners are going on about the best ways to defend yourself in Colombia. Some live there, most travel there. The majority of these dudes are talking about all kinds of boxing and martial arts. You happen to know of any martial art that prepares you for dodging bullets? LOL!!!! Me neither. This is kinda why we hear "stories." One of the few Colombians on the site mentioned......his guns. Big difference in point of view.
Now to Barranquilla. When I was leaving I ran into 2 Americans that were spooked to the hilt. It was their 2nd trip to Colombia, 1st was great and this time they flew into Barranquilla on Avianca. They cleared customs and caught a cab to go to the Prado(nice hotel, not so chica friendly). Some background, they were wearing their big Rolexs, not sure of chains. They had no one waiting on them, took a random taxi. They were pulled over 5 minutes out of the airport and robbed at gunpoint for all cash ($5000+), id, etc. The cab driver did not seem upset according to the guy I spoke to. Anyway, they stayed at the Prado that night, caught a taxi to the Hilton in Cartagena, changed their flight ($1000) and flew home the next day. They did not venture out of the Hilton until leaving for the USA. If these guys are members please post corrections and insights.
Unfortunately, that does happen everywhere. In BAQ, it's somewhat interesting that we don't hear more about it. The area (Malambo, Soledad) in which the BAQ airport is located, that you MUST pass through to get to more comfortable settings in the north, isn't anywhere to take any chances with. With more and more foreigners travelling there, I fear we will be hearing more.
In Bogota, Rio de Janeiro, and Lima, idiot travellers are always trying to get cheaper ($3-10 less) taxi fares, by bypassing the official taxi stands, by going out to the main road, by going to the departure area, etc. Because the locals do it, doesn't mean you should. Mind you, these travellers have all their money, valuables, and bags on them. Not sure how well-travelled these guys were, but there's an sizable official taxi stand directly in front of where the taxis line up in BAQ arrivals area.
One of the things I never skimp on when I travel is the taxi to/from the airport. I mean, forget the laptop, ipod, cash, credit cards, cell phone, etc. All replaceable, once stateside. But I got my passport on me. Fuck that!!! Not losing that over being a cheapskate or not being diligent in my decisions. Too much hassle trying to replace that, esp. when the embassy is in Bogota.
Low-key is the best approach. Also, using the official taxis for the security and official fixed rates. In my experiences with the BAQ airport, using the official taxi queue, generally once in the car, driver turns on the a/c, winds up the windows, locks the doors, grabs the ticket stub, and off we go. In approx. 15-20 trips there, usually the same deal, day arrival or late night arrival, never a problem.
I wouldn't doubt that the taxi driver was in on it, BUT I also wouldn't doubt if he wasn't. Here's the other side of the coin. He wasn't the target, hence his calm. If he stays quiet and minds his business, the robbers don't bother him at all, ESPECIALLY if the victims are loaded with cash, and have visible valuables. Think about it. If the driver was in on it, why would he still take them to Hotel Prado, rather than leave them on the side of the road?
Sounds strange to me, but true enough, I've heard of personal experiences in both Bogota and Lima Peru of robbers leaving their victims with just enough money to pay the taxi. In Rio, when they rob the tourist buses coming from the airport, almost never is the bus driver robbed. Why? He's broke. Even the stupidest thieves know, you don't get rich driving a taxi or bus. So, my point is, when something goes down, it doesn't automatically mean that the driver is in on it. When a taxi or bus coming from the airport is robbed, the thieves have targeted YOU, and more than likely because of something you've displayed. Colombia is the home of papaya giving and papaya taking.
When you're travelling to Colombia, you're travelling to COLOMBIA, no matter how safer it's gotten from its notorious past. Why would anyone in their right mind let their guard down coming out of any airport, and let some nondescript stranger steer them anywhere? Do they do that in their home country? Hell no. You get to your hotel room or apartment, and THEN take a deep breath and relax.
And, to be soberingly honest, some people just aren't built for Colombia. Glad they cut their losses early and got out of dodge. Sounds like it was headed downhill anyway.
I am not trying to discourage anyone from trying Colombia, just know that, like anywhere danger is possible and the police are not usually any help. I asked my girlfriend what good the report would do and it seems that if I was killed they wanted to know who the suspects are, fuck that.
I truly think that it's great that you posted your experience. I don't believe it will discourage anyone, nor should it. On the contrary, people really need to keep their guard up and their wits about them. Though the beauty of the women will blind you and make you almost lose your mind, Colombia is still not the safest place, just safer than before. Things still happen. Mind you, in your experience, your issues were with guys from Medellin, supposedly the nicest people in the country, in CTG, supposedly the safest city. LOL!!!
People believe that things are getting better because the murder rates are down. I have a feeling that even that will change in the next couple of years with a bunch (31,000+) of broke former warriors (paracos) on the loose and few real opportunities for real money other than......
Many Colombians still don't report petty crime. Seriously, why should they? The Colombian police are nothing like police in the USA. Bribes are acceptable, for good and bad. Same can be said about a lot of countries. Your GF is right. Kinda sad, huh?
Best of luck in your future travels.
Great report. Rolexes and $5k in cash arriving at the airport... sheesh. I've carried around a lot of cash before (pesos) and willing to give it all up. But it's really not a smart thing to do. The big point here is arriving at the airport with it. most likely it gets seen by someone regardless where it is as you go through customs (most likely)... thus you are now a target. No one that you don't personally know for a long time in Colombia is your friend. Anyone will do anything for any amount of money... including pull the trigger on you for 5k pesos. That being said, the airport in Barranquilla is a prime location for thieves to stake out their prey. Why? Because the road to anywhere from the airport is so far, so rambunctious looking to someone who has never been through Soledad before. You really don't know where to look for danger while you are in the cab, and before it hits you, you are sitting prey. Like you said, taxi driver may or may bot have been involved. On the other hand, customs agent, bag handler pushing your bags, cab driver and all could all 3 be involved. You just never know. Heck, you really can't even put it past employees at a hotel like El Prado for not being involved. Probably not in this case... but for a known big-cat or peronality etc arriving. You just cant count anyone out. After all, robberies happen all the time in Barranquilla... small operations all over involving many. I.e. at a bank... teller signals to someone in line when someone has left the counter with a large sum of cash, someone in line, does the signal to someone looking in the window outside the door, the guy outside the door calls armed moto#1. Before you know it, this poor bastard has an operation of 5 or 6 motos passing off the lead following him until they take him out and like you said... it doesnt matter what martial arts you practice or even if you pack a gun. You can't win if you have 5-10 people targeting you with guns pointed at your head from all different directions and you don't even know where they are. Great post and the key advice for Colombia is keep a low profile and remember... no one is your friend, unless you have been to Colombia over and over and over and established relationships and even then... desparate people will do anything... unfortunately this even includes some you consider your friends. Ricker made a good point... make as many friends and possible and make no enemies. But in the end... it's still Colombia.. anything can happen.
LOL!!! Really sorry to hear about your experience and glad that you lived to tell the story. I do hope that you learned something from it. A lot of these small-statured Colombians legally carry equalizers. A LOT. And as I've been witness to, doesn't take much for them to use them.
I truly hope that you don't take any of this as condescending or anything like that. That really isn't the intention. I just hope that next time you'll think a bit clearer. This can serve as insight for others into real situations that do occur in Colombia. And hopefully, people can learn something from it and make appropriate decisions.
They'd been partying and/or blasting music for 24 hrs or so in CTG. You think they might not have been doing coke??? Administration and other residents are cautious, yet you choose to confront them??? Not your job, man. Nor will the police take your side, you're just a visitor. Let reception deal with it, one way or another. Be adamant about it. This is what you pay for. For your decision to underestimate everyone else's reasoning or fear, you ended up with your life possibly in danger. Not a good situation.
There are real reasons why many Colombians, esp. men, are overly-polite. Foreigners really need to TRY to understand this. It's better, i.e. safer, to just be polite to everyone. Colombians cope with a lot of crap for self-preservation reasons. They are survivors. These kinds of situations escalate all the time, anywhere, and generally over nothing. I'd say about 90% of my Colombian buddies there, pack guns daily for personal protection, having previously been victims of crimes. This is pretty common. No need to take silly risks, especially if you're just visiting. If you find yourself in a position where things escalate, make the smart decision. Walk away and let someone else handle it. That's not being a pussy, just being smart.
I was just reading another site dedicated to Colombia, and a bunch of male foreigners are going on about the best ways to defend yourself in Colombia. Some live there, most travel there. The majority of these dudes are talking about all kinds of boxing and martial arts. You happen to know of any martial art that prepares you for dodging bullets? LOL!!!! Me neither. This is kinda why we hear "stories." One of the few Colombians on the site mentioned......his guns. Big difference in point of view.
Unfortunately, that does happen everywhere. In BAQ, it's somewhat interesting that we don't hear more about it. The area (Malambo, Soledad) in which the BAQ airport is located, that you MUST pass through to get to more comfortable settings in the north, isn't anywhere to take any chances with. With more and more foreigners travelling there, I fear we will be hearing more.
In Bogota, Rio de Janeiro, and Lima, idiot travellers are always trying to get cheaper ($3-10 less) taxi fares, by bypassing the official taxi stands, by going out to the main road, by going to the departure area, etc. Because the locals do it, doesn't mean you should. Mind you, these travellers have all their money, valuables, and bags on them. Not sure how well-travelled these guys were, but there's an sizable official taxi stand directly in front of where the taxis line up in BAQ arrivals area.
One of the things I never skimp on when I travel is the taxi to/from the airport. I mean, forget the laptop, ipod, cash, credit cards, cell phone, etc. All replaceable, once stateside. But I got my passport on me. Fuck that!!! Not losing that over being a cheapskate or not being diligent in my decisions. Too much hassle trying to replace that, esp. when the embassy is in Bogota.
Low-key is the best approach. Also, using the official taxis for the security and official fixed rates. In my experiences with the BAQ airport, using the official taxi queue, generally once in the car, driver turns on the a/c, winds up the windows, locks the doors, grabs the ticket stub, and off we go. In approx. 15-20 trips there, usually the same deal, day arrival or late night arrival, never a problem.
I wouldn't doubt that the taxi driver was in on it, BUT I also wouldn't doubt if he wasn't. Here's the other side of the coin. He wasn't the target, hence his calm. If he stays quiet and minds his business, the robbers don't bother him at all, ESPECIALLY if the victims are loaded with cash, and have visible valuables. Think about it. If the driver was in on it, why would he still take them to Hotel Prado, rather than leave them on the side of the road?
Sounds strange to me, but true enough, I've heard of personal experiences in both Bogota and Lima Peru of robbers leaving their victims with just enough money to pay the taxi. In Rio, when they rob the tourist buses coming from the airport, almost never is the bus driver robbed. Why? He's broke. Even the stupidest thieves know, you don't get rich driving a taxi or bus. So, my point is, when something goes down, it doesn't automatically mean that the driver is in on it. When a taxi or bus coming from the airport is robbed, the thieves have targeted YOU, and more than likely because of something you've displayed. Colombia is the home of papaya giving and papaya taking.
When you're travelling to Colombia, you're travelling to COLOMBIA, no matter how safer it's gotten from its notorious past. Why would anyone in their right mind let their guard down coming out of any airport, and let some nondescript stranger steer them anywhere? Do they do that in their home country? Hell no. You get to your hotel room or apartment, and THEN take a deep breath and relax.
And, to be soberingly honest, some people just aren't built for Colombia. Glad they cut their losses early and got out of dodge. Sounds like it was headed downhill anyway.
I truly think that it's great that you posted your experience. I don't believe it will discourage anyone, nor should it. On the contrary, people really need to keep their guard up and their wits about them. Though the beauty of the women will blind you and make you almost lose your mind, Colombia is still not the safest place, just safer than before. Things still happen. Mind you, in your experience, your issues were with guys from Medellin, supposedly the nicest people in the country, in CTG, supposedly the safest city. LOL!!!
People believe that things are getting better because the murder rates are down. I have a feeling that even that will change in the next couple of years with a bunch (31,000+) of broke former warriors (paracos) on the loose and few real opportunities for real money other than......
Many Colombians still don't report petty crime. Seriously, why should they? The Colombian police are nothing like police in the USA. Bribes are acceptable, for good and bad. Same can be said about a lot of countries. Your GF is right. Kinda sad, huh?
Best of luck in your future travels.
Sparkchaser69
06-08-07, 15:01
I haven't posted in a while and hate to put a "negative" report on Colombia but need to get this done. 1st, I have been living/traveling to various parts of Colombia (live in Cartagena) for the past 6+ years. I have made the trip at least 1x monthly during that time and came to feel that where I visited in Colombia (Cartagena, Barranquilla, Bogota, Medellin, Bucamaranga, Pasto) was at least as safe for me as South Florida. I have visited casas in all those cities and had numerous adventures that are fondly remembered.
In my apartment in Cartagena there were 3 men from Medellin renting the ajoining apartment. After 24 hours of music so loud that it was heard in the reception (turns out the administration and other apt dwellers were scared to confront them) I knocked loudly and asked that they turn the f----- music down. I went back to my apt and 2 of them knocked on my door, one wanted to fight, he was obviously fucked up, kept pounding his chect and saying "you want to fuck with me!" He moved toward me and then my mistake, told him fuck you, you got it, he pulled a 45 Auto out and aimed , being loco but not entirely stupid I said you win and closed the door. He then kicked the door down, came after me with the 45, been a long time but I managed to circle the apt and got out. Ahhhh, went to the Tourist Police, ended up with about 12 at the apt, they found a permit for him to carry a gun. Seems all a Colombiano has to do is go to the police station and register to carry a gun. After 1 hour the decision was made that he agreed to be good and if anything else happened he would be in trouble, no shit. The police say I need to file a report with the other police in Centro, and that he was scared because I was bigger than him, what the fuck! Anyway, 2 nights later coming back from dinner 2 of the same police pulled me over and since I did not have a D/L with me they were going to write me a ticket and tow my car. I knew they only wanted a propina, they had the guns and I am not Colombiano, resident Visa, yes but no fuckin Colombiano.
Now to Barranquilla. When I was leaving I ran into 2 Americans that were spooked to the hilt. It was their 2nd trip to Colombia, 1st was great and this time they flew into Barranquilla on Avianca. They cleared customs and caught a cab to go to the Prado(nice hotel, not so chica friendly). Some background, they were wearing their big Rolexs, not sure of chains. They had no one waiting on them, took a random taxi. They were pulled over 5 minutes out of the airport and robbed at gunpoint for all cash ($5000+), id, etc. The cab driver did not seem upset according to the guy I spoke to. Anyway, they stayed at the Prado that night, caught a taxi to the Hilton in Cartagena, changed their flight ($1000) and flew home the next day. They did not venture out of the Hilton until leaving for the USA. If these guys are members please post corrections and insights.
Anyway, if I could get pics to post on this site I would show why we go there and will continue to, chicas, period. Got some friends there but have more in the USA. I am going back next week, maybe do my bi-monthly to Bucamaranga.
I am not trying to discourage anyone from trying Colombia, just know that, like anywhere danger is possible and the police are not usually any help. I asked my girlfriend what good the report would do and it seems that if I was killed they wanted to know who the suspects are, fuck that.
Colombia is a dangerous place for the unsuspecting. My wife is from Pereira Colombia. She says that the going rate for a hit by the guys on the motos is between 100,00 and 200,00 pesos. You [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) someone off or they want something you have. Your fucked. Don't wear your shiny jewelry, etc... in Colombia.
Colombia is a dangerous place for the unsuspecting. My wife is from Pereira Colombia. She says that the going rate for a hit by the guys on the motos is between 100,00 and 200,00 pesos. You [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) someone off or they want something you have. Your fucked. Don't wear your shiny jewelry, etc... in Colombia.Two days ago, just in front the mall Ciudad Victoria, some guy was kill by 2 guys on a motorcycle.
Just don't fuck with anyone, do your thing and be in peace.
By the way, I here in Pereira and Cartago.
Dosquebradas is a nice town.
My two cents.
Kukulkan
El Austriaco
06-08-07, 18:21
Colombia is a dangerous place for the unsuspecting. My wife is from Pereira Colombia. She says that the going rate for a hit by the guys on the motos is between 100,00 and 200,00 pesos. You [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) someone off or they want something you have. Your fucked. Don't wear your shiny jewelry, etc... in Colombia.
I guess if MY wife knew the going rate for a hit on someone off the top of her head, I'd really start worrying :)
Good that I don't have one.
EA
Hoof Hunter
06-08-07, 22:11
Damn, inflation hits everything. Gone are the good ole days of the 50.000 pesos sicarios, I guess. However, if you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) the wrong someone off, they'll kill you for free.
Most sicario hits in Colombia are related to domestic-violence types of situations, suspected spousal cheating, AND shady business dealings. So you better be sure if your "girl" is really what she says she is. Once it escalates into the drug biz, political arena, and power play arena, prices go up.
I remember watching the movie Rosario Tijeras (loosely based on the Medellin scene of the recent past) and them mentioning something to the fact that she got 1.000.000 pesos per hit. So who really knows what your life is worth to the dude who'll pull the trigger, but the dude who'll pull the trigger or the person who's willing to pay it? Degree of difficulty costs more? LOL!!!
Shiny jewelry wearers and those who like to flash cash, one way or another, need only to worry about getting robbed at gunpoint. If they resist the robbery, the situation escalates, sometimes fatally. I wouldn't call this a "hit", just a very bad decision.
I'll find out the prices in BAQ when I'm on the ground next. I have some close friends there who are somewhat connected to that scene.
Colombia is a dangerous place for the unsuspecting. My wife is from Pereira Colombia. She says that the going rate for a hit by the guys on the motos is between 100,00 and 200,00 pesos. You [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) someone off or they want something you have. Your fucked. Don't wear your shiny jewelry, etc... in Colombia.
MiamiHeatLuver
06-08-07, 22:48
Two days ago, just in front the mall Ciudad Victoria, some guy was kill by 2 guys on a motorcycle.
Just don't fuck with anyone, do your thing and be in peace.
By the way, I here in Pereira and Cartago.
Dosquebradas is a nice town.
My two cents.
Kukulkan
So Kukulkan, you finally made it to this board? Now comes the question, What took you so long?
So Kukulkan, you finally made it to this board? Now comes the question, What took you so long?Any way, Miami, This is a Friend a was banging in Barranquilla, no to long ago, She maried a Gringo and whent to live in Virginia, after 2 years, she contac me, an tell me, she is no whit the guy, but she is waiting for her greencard.
After the proces she whant to be whit me, I sed, Hell NO, we can still be friends like allways
Kukulkan
MiamiHeatLuver
06-23-07, 06:42
Any way, Miami, This is a Friend a was banging in Barranquilla, no to long ago, She maried a Gringo and whent to live in Virginia, after 2 years, she contac me, an tell me, she is no whit the guy, but she is waiting for her greencard.
After the proces she whant to be whit me, I sed, Hell NO, we can still be friends like allways
Kukulkan
SHE has a very nice smile! Looks very familiar! lol
Miami,
Do you still have Business in Cali?
Kukulkan
FoxesHunter
06-23-07, 17:21
Dear friends,
one friend of mine has his wife in Santa Marta and he has just told me in this days every town on the coast is very very dangerous.
He has just told me many incredible stories.
Now there are many many paramilitares and these towns now are the most dangerous in Colombia. Santa Marta was a pleasant town till some days ago but now is the most dangerous town in Colombia. I think it is better to avoid these towns now. Do you know something too?
Fox
MiamiHeatLuver
06-23-07, 18:53
Dear friends,
one friend of mine has his wife in Santa Marta and he has just told me in this days every town on the coast is very very dangerous.
He has just told me many incredible stories.
Now there are many many paramilitares and these towns now are the most dangerous in Colombia. Santa Marta was a pleasant town till some days ago but now is the most dangerous town in Colombia. I think it is better to avoid these towns now. Do you know something too?
Fox
Santa Marta and Baranquilla are just like any large city, good areas and bad areas, BUT THE MOST DANGEROUS CITY IN COLOMBIA IS BUENAVENTURA by far.
FoxesHunter
06-23-07, 19:09
Santa Marta and Baranquilla are just like any large city, good areas and bad areas, BUT THE MOST DANGEROUS CITY IN COLOMBIA IS BUENAVENTURA by far.
I'm sorry my bad english!
My friend have just told me the recent demobilizations in mass of the paramilitary groups workig in the zone, attracted by the possibility to be pardoned by a special and complaisant legislation 'to hoc', they have just filled cities of the coast of an elevated number of small criminals with the tendency to the rapids association turning to illegitimate finality. In this time these towns become more violent. The situation of Saint Marta and other towns on the coast become distorted in a little time.
Santa Marta has alwyays been a paramilitary town, controlled by the paramilitary. 99.9% of the people that live in Santa Marta are themselves, have relatives, have friends of relatives, have friends, or know personally many many paramilitaries. Does that make Santa Marta dangerous? It can, but it also makes it safe from the FARC. I have not read about more and more Paramilitaries moving from the hills into the city, but certainly it could be happening. It doesn't change much. For the most part all the high level paramilitaries stay in their houses in the countryside coming to Santa Marta when necessary. They still control the whole city, the police, and many of the businesses... so if you are scared of Paramilitaries then it was dangerous before these last few days as well. If you are not scared of Paramilitaries then I'm not sure how this changes anything.
I'm sorry my bad english!
My friend have just told me the recent demobilizations in mass of the paramilitary groups workig in the zone, attracted by the possibility to be pardoned by a special and complaisant legislation 'to hoc', they have just filled cities of the coast of an elevated number of small criminals with the tendency to the rapids association turning to illegitimate finality. In this time these towns become more violent. The situation of Saint Marta and other towns on the coast become distorted in a little time.
Salsero Loco
06-24-07, 03:00
If a town is controlled by the paramilitary, you as an American or Westerner are probably fine or perhaps even safer than in other towns. I have been to paraco towns where I was told I could leave my car doors unlocked with my wallet sitting on the seat and nothing would happen. Why? Because the paras exact extreme justice on thieves.
A town full of ex-paramilitary thugish underlings earning a monthly pittance from the government with no one controlling them is a different matter entirely.
SL
1- Cali
2- Cali
3- Cali
4- Cali
5-200,000 to 300,000 Cop
6- Cali
7- Cali
8- Medellin
9- Cali
10- Cali
Kukulkan
Hello .... if you have been in Cali and Barranquilla can you answer to my questions please?
1) Where is easier the approach with regular girls (no prostitute)?
2) What town is cheaper?
3) Where are the hottest girls?
4) Where are the hotel more girls friendly?
5) How much money have you spend if you fuck her for a week?
6) Is it easier to content the girls with little money or gifts in Barranquilla or Cali?
7) Where is it easier to let an furnished apartment?
8) I know in Cali there are wonderful girls, but where can I find more beautiful girls?
9) Where can I find nicer, likeable, good-humoured and cheerful girls?
10) Where is the hottest temperature?
I'm sorry for my hard quesions. ;)
thanks for your news.
hasta luego
My Last Time in Medellin was 3 to 4 years ago.
Out of the game in Medellin, but willing to try Calle 53 and Mayoristas soon
Kukulkan,
thanks for your news. If you know Medellin too, can you answer those 10 questions between Cali and Medellin?
Thanks, again,
Hasta luego
1- Cali
2- Cali
3- Cali
4- Cali
5-200,000 to 300,000 Cop
6- Cali
7- Cali
8- Medellin
9- Cali
10- Cali
Kukulkan
One guys opinion only.
Barranquilla has just as many nice non-pros ... very easy to approach ... just as hot and nice and cheerfull ... definitely is hotter than Cali (temperature).
Cali has more little daytime massage casas, Barranquilla I would give the edge on non-pros.
My opinion.
Poturu, why do you ask the same questions every 2 months. Just get on a plane and go!! Here are my answers becuase it's getting annoying seeing you ask the same questions over and over...
1) Both... it all depends on you
2) both
3) both... That is subjective anyways. Nor will you nor I be landing the #1 hottest chica in the city. So it is irrelative.
4) probably Cali
5) both cities... none to $1,000,000 US in either city. Depends on how generous you want to be.
6) both... gifts always go a long way. Course it depends on the chica. City is irrelevant.
7) I've never tried it in Cali, so I can't answer the question. If you have $$$ you can probably do it in either.
8) what a question? I guess you could find some real stunners if you go hit up some mafioso types for their chica. Again, this is subjective. All of Colombia has beautiful and wonderful women. Whether they hit the sack with you really depends on your charm, game, or wallet... not their looks.
9) jajajaj... ok have you tried Asia?
10) Does it really matter which one is hotter? They are both hot. This is like asking which one is further from Bogota... Hong Kong or South Korea. At the end of the day, they are both far. Same as temperature in Cali and Barranquilla... in both you will probably want to shower numerous times a day if heat is not your thing. Fortunately, in neither city will you have a problem finding cold water.
Please don't ask to compare the chicas of Periera and Armenia or Medellin and Bucaramanga etc. next week. Just get a map of Colombia, close your eyes and point... and that is where you start. If you don't like it after a few days, plane flights are cheap. I'm not trying to be rude. But no one here can give you the answers you want. We are all wired differently and different people have different tastes.
Ok Poturu, I am editing this because I just went back and re-read your posts... it sounds like HEAT is not your thing if you thought Santa MArta was too hot. Barranquilla is much hotter than Santa Marta and I have been to Cali when it felt hotter than Barranquilla and also when it was quite comfortable to me... about the same (a little hotter) than Santa Marta. Thus my honest opinion is you should pass on both. If you want to stay away from the heat, Bogota is the place for you . Even Pereira and MEdellin will probably be too hot for you. Ok buddy. Good luck
Hello .... if you have been in Cali and Barranquilla can you answer to my questions please?
1) Where is easier the approach with regular girls (no prostitute)?
2) What town is cheaper?
3) Where are the hottest girls?
4) Where are the hotel more girls friendly?
5) How much money have you spend if you fuck her for a week?
6) Is it easier to content the girls with little money or gifts in Barranquilla or Cali?
7) Where is it easier to let an furnished apartment?
8) I know in Cali there are wonderful girls, but where can I find more beautiful girls?
9) Where can I find nicer, likeable, good-humoured and cheerful girls?
10) Where is the hottest temperature?
I'm sorry for my hard quesions. ;)
thanks for your news.
hasta luego
Poturu, why do you ask the same questions every 2 months. Just get on a plane and go!! Here are my answers becuase it's getting annoying seeing you ask the same questions over and over...
1) Both... it all depends on you
2) both
3) both... That is subjective anyways. Nor will you nor I be landing the #1 hottest chica in the city. So it is irrelative.
4) probably Cali
5) both cities... none to $1,000,000 US in either city. Depends on how generous you want to be.
6) both... gifts always go a long way. Course it depends on the chica. City is irrelevant.
7) I've never tried it in Cali, so I can't answer the question. If you have $$$ you can probably do it in either.
8) what a question? I guess you could find some real stunners if you go hit up some mafioso types for their chica. Again, this is subjective. All of Colombia has beautiful and wonderful women. Whether they hit the sack with you really depends on your charm, game, or wallet... not their looks.
9) jajajaj... ok have you tried Asia?
10) Does it really matter which one is hotter? They are both hot. This is like asking which one is further from Bogota... Hong Kong or South Korea. At the end of the day, they are both far. Same as temperature in Cali and Barranquilla... in both you will probably want to shower numerous times a day if heat is not your thing. Fortunately, in neither city will you have a problem finding cold water.
Please don't ask to compare the chicas of Periera and Armenia or Medellin and Bucaramanga etc. next week. Just get a map of Colombia, close your eyes and point... and that is where you start. If you don't like it after a few days, plane flights are cheap. I'm not trying to be rude. But no one here can give you the answers you want. We are all wired differently and different people have different tastes.
Ok Poturu, I am editing this because I just went back and re-read your posts... it sounds like HEAT is not your thing if you thought Santa MArta was too hot. Barranquilla is much hotter than Santa Marta and I have been to Cali when it felt hotter than Barranquilla and also when it was quite comfortable to me... about the same (a little hotter) than Santa Marta. Thus my honest opinion is you should pass on both. If you want to stay away from the heat, Bogota is the place for you . Even Pereira and MEdellin will probably be too hot for you. Ok buddy. Good luck
Great reply to Poturu's list of questions.
Like Winner says ... just go to Colombia and sample the cities.
There are hot chicas, ugly chicas, nice chicas and barracudas in each city.
Your perception of what makes beautiful woman, like everyones, is different.
Read the forum, plenty of info there, make a selection and go.
Suerte amigo!
Master Yoda
06-25-07, 00:20
Please don't ask to compare the chicas of Periera and Armenia or Medellin and Bucaramanga etc. next week. Just get a map of Colombia, close your eyes and point... and that is where you start.Listen to Winner71. Use the force young padawan :). It can be a powerful allie
FoxesHunter
07-03-07, 15:27
Dear friends I ask you the last question then I will depart to Barranquilla.
What is the best road close the action? I like to look for a furnished flat there.
I like to meet many many girls in the night but during the day too.
I know there three good quarters in Barranquilla: el Prado, trading centre Buenavista and the carrera 53 numeber 70-54.
Can you give me some advice about the road close to action or a furnished flat?
I thank you for your precious news.
Fox
Action meaning what? Bars where you find the pros? 1) you don't want to sleep close by to where most of them are and 2) If you are looking for a furnished apartment, I recommend looking for an apartment that you like irrespective of where the strip clubs are. I.e. if you like comfort, ac, etc you can pretty much write off looking for an apartment in El Murillo, which is where most of the cheap *****houses are.
I recommend going, pulling out the newspaper and spending a good 4-7 days looking for your ideal apartment... in the North (which is a 6k-7k pesos taxi ride to the *****houses).
Dear friends I ask you the last question then I will depart to Barranquilla.
What is the best road close the action? I like to look for a furnished flat there.
I like to meet many many girls in the night but during the day too.
I know there three good quarters in Barranquilla: el Prado, trading centre Buenavista and the carrera 53 numeber 70-54.
Can you give me some advice about the road close to action or a furnished flat?
I thank you for your precious news.
Fox
Dear friends I ask you the last question then I will depart to Barranquilla.
What is the best road close the action? I like to look for a furnished flat there.
I like to meet many many girls in the night but during the day too.
I know there three good quarters in Barranquilla: el Prado, trading centre Buenavista and the carrera 53 numeber 70-54.
Can you give me some advice about the road close to action or a furnished flat?
I thank you for your precious news.
FoxFox The last time a was there i use Hotel american Golf
http://www.hotelamericangolf.com
Thank's to Tom Tom He was the one to guide me on right direccion,No problema whit one or two visitor a the same time.
My Two cents.
Kukulkan
FoxesHunter
07-05-07, 16:15
Action meaning what? Bars where you find the pros? 1) you don't want to sleep close by to where most of them are and 2) If you are looking for a furnished apartment, I recommend looking for an apartment that you like irrespective of where the strip clubs are. I.e. if you like comfort, ac, etc you can pretty much write off looking for an apartment in El Murillo, which is where most of the cheap *****houses are.
For Action I mean a place where I can meet normal girls and prostitute girls in the bars. I don't like sophisticate girls but simple and nice girls. I like to meet girls in the night but during the day too. I know El Murillo and the center of town are good spots. I know the bars in the center are always full of girls but I also know El Murillo and the center are dangerous too.
Is el Prado a good spoot? Have some news for me about a furnished apartment around 90-100.000 pesos?
What is your opinion?
90-100k pesos a day? How long do you plan on staying?
Who told you el centro is a place to go? Forget el centro. El murillo is where most of the bars are. No need, nor do I recommend going to el Centro for anything.
For Action I mean a place where I can meet normal girls and prostitute girls in the bars. I don't like sophisticate girls but simple and nice girls. I like to meet girls in the night but during the day too. I know El Murillo and the center of town are good spots. I know the bars in the center are always full of girls but I also know El Murillo and the center are dangerous too.
Is el Prado a good spoot? Have some news for me about a furnished apartment around 90-100.000 pesos?
What is your opinion?
FoxesHunter
07-07-07, 13:52
90-100k pesos a day? How long do you plan on staying?
Who told you el centro is a place to go? Forget el centro. El murillo is where most of the bars are. No need, nor do I recommend going to el Centro for anything.
Hey are 90-100k pesos a day too little money? I will stay 10 days only but I don't like hotels.
I thought Murillo is in the center town. Where is it precisely? How far is it from the center and from zona rosa (north)?
I thank you for your suggestions.
Barranquilla is not like Cartagena where there are apartments for rent all over the place. I honestly think the odds of you finding an apartment to rent are very very very poor. In fact, you won't find an apartment to rent for 10 days. Hotels or apartahotels (which to me is the same as a hotel) are your only options. Murrillo is in the South, about 20-30 minutes by taxi away from where you want your hotel. You want your hotel to be in the North. Zona Rosa? Uhmmmm... what Zona Rosa? There are a few differrent areas of town that have brothels... those in a 200 meter radius in El Murrillo are my favorite... but it is not an area where you want to sleep or even just hang out. It's take a taxi there, get out of the taxi, and enter the brothel, and keep to yourself. You do not want to mess with guys here. The chicas are cheap and you will find a gem, but the guys that frequent these places are not those you want to become friends with. And when you are done, be very careful when you walk out the door. Get in a taxi, after talking to no one outside, and go back to the North.
My advice, for brothels.. Murrillo is your best bet. For nightlife with regular dates... there are some discos in el Murillo, but there are also a lot of clubs in the North. Most of the gals prefer the clubs in the North. And remember, don't go out at night to regular clubs with the expecation of finiding a regualr gal. It won't happen. Make your frieinds and find your dates in the daytime.
Hope this helps.
Hey are 90-100k pesos a day too little money? I will stay 10 days only but I don't like hotels.
I thought Murillo is in the center town. Where is it precisely? How far is it from the center and from zona rosa (north)?
I thank you for your suggestions.
FoxesHunter
07-08-07, 16:43
My advice, for brothels.. Murrillo is your best bet. For nightlife with regular dates... there are some discos in el Murillo, but there are also a lot of clubs in the North. Most of the gals prefer the clubs in the North. And remember, don't go out at night to regular clubs with the expecation of finiding a regualr gal. It won't happen. Make your frieinds and find your dates in the daytime.
Hope this helps.I thank you for your suggestions! I look for info on safety too.
For brothels at Murillo is it better to enter accompanied by a friend or can I go alone?
If in the most of the gals I prefer the clubs in the North is it better enter accompanied by a friend of mine?
I would like to look for an apartment at el Prado because it is a stategic area where everyting is near. I think Buenavista center is more distant and decentralized.
If I will not be able to find an apartment, do you know a cheap hotel (70-80.000 pesos) close to bars?
When I will come back I will write a detalied report.
I thank you!
FoxesHunter
08-15-07, 14:36
Hi I'd like to post my opinion on Barranquilla. I have just come back from this interesting town. I have lived in Barranquilla 14 days only.
I speak fluent spanish and I am a 50 old european man. I am very goodlooking, romantic and very kind to everybody. I am happy when a girl with me is happy.
Before my departing to Barranquilla I have amassed 12-13 phone numbers of regular beautiful girls (by Internet) but I have spoken with them some time only. I have met all of them and they were very kind and nice with me and I with them. I have always paid they taxi to get their home but they come with me for drinking or eating only. I have spent much money for them because they always come with their sisters or friends. The second or third time I've met them I have always asked the to come to my hotel but every girl always refused that invitation. I read here beautiful reports on Barranquilla on regular girls. I have not had any stroke of luck with them. Perhaps my barranquilleras friends were too much beautiful girls than yours? ;)
In your opinion what was my problem?
Luckily I have known an interesting boy and he toke me to some casas (close to my hotel) and the Murillo bars. Murillo bars are wonderful. They are full of interesting and kind girls but they are a little bit cold for my taste. Even it is impossible to kiss them. In 14 days I have fucked prostitutes only.
The only positive aspect of the situation was the Monterrey hotel on the cra 44 with 74. They are is very kind and chica friendly.
This was my experience on Barranquilla.
Master Yoda
08-15-07, 16:12
I had a similar problem in BAQ but I did make friends.
BAQ is not the kind of place to drop in and hope to get laid in 10 days with a non-pro. You'd have to be there for an extended amount of time. Like a month or 2. Also its best to meet them in the day time not in clubs. I went to afew clubs and the women there were non responsive. I don't think I will return there because I didnt like the place and didn't like the look the of women. Buenavista mall had some of hotties though. Calle 79 and up were where the upper classes were.
Cali had more of the triguena look I liked more open to conversation. I didnt feel unsafe at all.
Hi I'd like to post my opinion on Barranquilla. I have just come back from this interesting town. I have lived in Barranquilla 14 days only.
I speak fluent spanish and I am a 50 old european man. I am very goodlooking, romantic and very kind to everybody. I am happy when a girl with me is happy.
Before my departing to Barranquilla I have amassed 12-13 phone numbers of regular beautiful girls (by Internet) but I have spoken with them some time only. I have met all of them and they were very kind and nice with me and I with them. I have always paid they taxi to get their home but they come with me for drinking or eating only. I have spent much money for them because they always come with their sisters or friends. The second or third time I've met them I have always asked the to come to my hotel but every girl always refused that invitation. I read here beautiful reports on Barranquilla on regular girls. I have not had any stroke of luck with them. Perhaps my barranquilleras friends were too much beautiful girls than yours? ;)
In your opinion what was my problem?
Luckily I have known an interesting boy and he toke me to some casas (close to my hotel) and the Murillo bars. Murillo bars are wonderful. They are full of interesting and kind girls but they are a little bit cold for my taste. Even it is impossible to kiss them. In 14 days I have fucked prostitutes only.
The only positive aspect of the situation was the Monterrey hotel on the cra 44 with 74. They are is very kind and chica friendly.
This was my experience on Barranquilla.
FoxesHunter -- I like your name! Like the two European "wild and crazy" guys in the old Saturday Night Live (US television show) that were always looking for foxes.
For what it's worth, I only had sex with prostitutes when I was in Barranquilla too, even though I spent most of my time with a couple of good girls that were drop dead beautiful. I never tried to get in their pants because I knew a long term relationship wasn't going to happen. I don't think either of the two would have slept with me if they thought it was going to be a one night stand, but both would have if they thought that there was decent potential for a long term relationship. Anyway, I'd rather pay a prostitute than play with the emotions of a good girl.
Based on my very limited experience with just two barranquilleras, I suspect many of them are more traditional than what you'd think from reading this board. You were approaching beautiful women over the internet, not so-so women you met in bars. Since you're 30+ years older than they are, they're probably not going to want to sleep with you out of pure animalistic lust. Out of 12 women, I suspect that some of them would have slept with you if either (1) there were some financial incentive, and she wasn't worried her friends and families would find out about you having sex with her or (2) if she thought sleeping with you might improve her chances of marrying you. With regard to "2", in my experience with Latin women, not necessarily Colombians, they think that if they're easy, you'll be less likely to want to have a long term relationship with them. Also, they want to know that you view them as more than just a potential sexual conquest. So it may take more than a couple of dates before they sleep with you.
Master Yoda
08-15-07, 16:58
I think most of what tiny12 says is true. I wouldn't want to give the good girls a bad impression either.
The girls in BAQ do seem conservative. Hell most good girls in Colombia are conservative and they wouldn't sleep with you purely because you are a gringo. some do but a good portion wouldn't. If you are a wealthy, charming and gentlemanly older man that lived in Colombia and has a good reputation I see you facing very little problems in dating women in Colombia. Even the ones from the better classes.
One thing mongers need to realise is that new travels fast in Colombia. So you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot by getting a bad reputation. If you are going to Colombia just to monger and hang out in the casa and fuck putas then you reputation goes down with you and your chances of meeting a woman from a good family or wealthy family further diminishes.
A buddy of mine named Charles lives in BAQ today.He recently purchased an ad in a magazine published by I love Latins(www.ilovelatins.com). He had several responses over the last few weeks. One in particular interested him. The gal says she comes form a wealthy family in Meddelin which may or may not be true because generally wealthy chicas don't do the agencies. Funny when the mag is a local Barranquilla publication. She recived it from a relative. Since she has been writing him she has recieved alot of criticism and told only 2 of ten marriages to Americans work. Her next letter stated she had recently heard of a gal in BAQ that married an american and suffered alot behind it. He responded and told her he was the one, but the story she got was bogus. We will see if she writes back. It surprised him to hear that his news had traveled so far and wide. But women love to gossip and the old saying goes "Gossip kills three; the one who speaks, the one who listens and the one who is spoken of".
Yoda, Did I understand that, the ex-wife of your friend was talking trash about him, and it got all the way back to a woman in Medellin that he's corresponding with? That's hilarious.
I was hanging out with a mid-50's guy in Cartagena. I really like the guy, he's very interesting and fun to pal around with, but he's also the classic American monger -- a little on the heavy side, wore shorts everywhere, didn't always shave, and had no problem approaching any hot looking 19 year old on the street. Anyway he lined up a date at one of the agencies with a woman in Cartagena who was from a prominent family. She was in her early 40's, very attractive for her age, but had a couple of kids that probably reduced her marriage prospects. They went out on a blind date, and she was VERY careful to make sure it was at a restaurant where none of her friends or family would see her. She shows up dressed to the hilt, in an evening dress, and he's dressed in shorts. As you'd expect, they didn't hit it off -- there wasn't a second date.
For some reason I though of this after reading "If you are a wealthy, charming and gentlemanly older man that lived in Colombia and has a good reputation I see you facing very little problems in dating women in Colombia. Even the ones from the better classes."
Master Yoda
08-15-07, 17:31
Hey Tiny,
The girls name was Janet and she is from Medellin. I don't think she lives in Medellin but she is definately from there and has family there. She was a classy lady at least for colombian standards. just how classy I am not sure but she was attractive. She has been to the US many times so nothing is new to her. Her dad is meant to be a doctor and her mom is a teacher so she isn't exactly poor. I was shocked when we figured out what happened and it seemed to devestate him. He is a good guy and dresses good but he fucked with the wrong woman. And that may have tainted his image in BAQ for a long time to come.
If you are an older gentleman the Key to meeting super fine women from good families isn't just approaching them on the streets but building a network and being introduced. its a slow courtship.
Sure you can go around and approach fairly decent girls if you like but if you want the hot hot ones like models your going to need to be introduced through mutal friends. Thats why it i laugh in my head at mongers trying to get a non-pro on a 2 week visit. your dreaming in 256 colour if you think its going to go that way. Unless you are younger and brad pitt.
Yoda, Did I understand that, the ex-wife of your friend was talking trash about him, and it got all the way back to a woman in Medellin that he's corresponding with? That's hilarious.
I was hanging out with a mid-50's guy in Cartagena. I really like the guy, he's very interesting and fun to pal around with, but he's also the classic American monger -- a little on the heavy side, wore shorts everywhere, didn't always shave, and had no problem approaching any hot looking 19 year old on the street. Anyway he lined up a date at one of the agencies with a woman in Cartagena who was from a prominent family. She was in her early 40's, very attractive for her age, but had a couple of kids that probably reduced her marriage prospects. They went out on a blind date, and she was VERY careful to make sure it was at a restaurant where none of her friends or family would see her. She shows up dressed to the hilt, in an evening dress, and he's dressed in shorts. As you'd expect, they didn't hit it off -- there wasn't a second date.
For some reason I though of this after reading "If you are a wealthy, charming and gentlemanly older man that lived in Colombia and has a good reputation I see you facing very little problems in dating women in Colombia. Even the ones from the better classes."
Foxes, you mentined drinking and eating but not dancing. When you take her out drinking and dancing and there is chemistry, it should accelerate the process.
My experience says that if there are sisters or female friends present, they will inhibit your date and she'll probably try and play "good girl" while they are watching.
Meeting girls individually takes a lot of time. But of course it's absolutely necessary, so that you can find out which one(s) you have a good feeling with. Some guys try and make the process more efficient by flirting or talking sex with the girls during the internet/phone conversation. If she really doesn't participate or comes across shocked, remove her from the list without a meeting.
If you must cast the net wide and you want efficiency, you could even set up multiple dates in the same afternoon at the same mall. Just invite each one for a cafe latte at Juan Valdez or something, an icecream. Then it doesn't matter so much if they bring friends.
The marranera is a certain kind of girl that will have sex just with the promise of going to nice discotecas, fancy restaurants and shopping. These chicks give you a score much faster than the good girl. At first glance they would be an ideal match for a discreet foreign monger. But they come with their own set of issues and problems to be wary of.
A lot of good responses already. I'll add that I think your approach was correct... I.e. you had already established a rapport/contact over the Internet, this should have pushed you to the possiblity of actually being able to hit the sack on the first date, if not the second. This all goes with the assumption that the gal likes you.
Gals aren't just going to sleep with you because you are 50+, thus economicaly stable probably, good looking, and you buy them dinner. You have to create a chemistry. Being that you stated you met all 12 or 13 gals, something must have been giving them the bad vibes. I can;t tell you what that something is. It could be a number of things. However, if they sensed you were there just to screw around then that could be the problem. Did you tell them you had plans with other gals, meetings with other gals etc. That could have been it.
Someone once recommended the online book "Double your Dating." I think just reading the 1st main writing of his series you might figure out where things went wrong. Just a suggestion.
Barranquilleras are not conservative, as far as Colombianas go. And especially when comparing them to gringas. There had to be something else going on. I will say that Barranquilla is a very small world. I.e. Even if you only saw 3 gals over the 14 days. I guarantee you that if any 1 of the 3 were interested, they would absolutely know that you were seeing 2 other gals. It's like they have eyes in the back of their head. This actually could have been your problem. If you really met up with 12-13 gals in 14 days and you were going to the strip joints in Murrillo, I guarantee you almost everyone of them knew it. Certainly if they were falling for you after the 1st date, they were going to get the dirt on you. That was probably what happened.
Rapport is everything and truth is.. women pretty much in general know within the first 10 minutes of seeing you f2f if they are going to be hopping in the sack with you. I shit you not. Once that 10 minutes is up and she hasn't already decided in her mind that she wants to jump your bones... it's an uphill battle. Of course you don't know this in the 1st 10 minutes as she's not going to tell you this. But for the most part, she's making her judgement on you in the 1st 10 minutes. If you play beaver cleaver goodguy... she's going to suck you out of all the free dinners and drinks she can until you finally quit taking her out after realizing she's never jumping in the sack with you.
Someone mentioned you should have gotten kind of hot and heavy with a few of them online and then axed the rest. I probably would agree to this from the stance that you are 50+... which I'm not knocking. But why should one of these gals jump in the sack with you when there are hundreds of thousands of other hombres that want to get into her panties? What WILL separate a gringo from a Colombiano is they believe that gringos are more faithful and not a perro. I.e. They are accustomed to growing up in a machisto environment and the males are all dogs. The advantage you have is she's painting a picture of you and once she hears that you are seeing other gals... her thoughts instantly go from "Is he my prince to.. .he's a dog too." It might not be fair for her to judge so quickly as you didn't jump in the sack with 12 other gals. But had the opportunity presneted itself you probably would have. And you did go to the strip clubs so... her thoughts are verified.
The men that get to jump in the sack with the gal on the first date are the ones that excite them, are mysterious to them, make them laugh, the one's that stand out.. the one's that are different than 99% of the dogs they've grown up with that are trying to get into their panties. You have to come across like.. you have absolutely no interest in getting into her pants and you just think spending your time with her is the best thing on earth. That's the guy that gets laid on the 1st date. The guy that spends dinner and drinks on her, kisses her ass, and has no game or nothing that excites them or shows you are different get nowhere. You may as well take a number with the other 10,000 guys drooling over her because that's all you are. The only difference between you and them are you'll take her out to nice restaurants and clubs... and you still aren't getting in her pants as they aren't either.
Get the book. That and being made out as a monger is what failed you IMO. How do they know you are a monger? What was your reason for being in Barranquilla. It certainly wasn't because you heard Barranquilla is a beautiful city. Catch my drift. Sorry to hear it wasn't a success.
One thing I would really like to know from you... the details of Hotel Monterrey? Never been there. Cost, is there WIFI, CablePort, swimming pool, etc.
Thanks for the report
Hi I'd like to post my opinion on Barranquilla. I have just come back from this interesting town. I have lived in Barranquilla 14 days only.
I speak fluent spanish and I am a 50 old european man. I am very goodlooking, romantic and very kind to everybody. I am happy when a girl with me is happy.
Before my departing to Barranquilla I have amassed 12-13 phone numbers of regular beautiful girls (by Internet) but I have spoken with them some time only. I have met all of them and they were very kind and nice with me and I with them. I have always paid they taxi to get their home but they come with me for drinking or eating only. I have spent much money for them because they always come with their sisters or friends. The second or third time I've met them I have always asked the to come to my hotel but every girl always refused that invitation. I read here beautiful reports on Barranquilla on regular girls. I have not had any stroke of luck with them. Perhaps my barranquilleras friends were too much beautiful girls than yours? ;)
In your opinion what was my problem?
Luckily I have known an interesting boy and he toke me to some casas (close to my hotel) and the Murillo bars. Murillo bars are wonderful. They are full of interesting and kind girls but they are a little bit cold for my taste. Even it is impossible to kiss them. In 14 days I have fucked prostitutes only.
The only positive aspect of the situation was the Monterrey hotel on the cra 44 with 74. They are is very kind and chica friendly.
This was my experience on Barranquilla.
Hoof Hunter
08-16-07, 06:08
I've previously done a comparison between Colombia and Lima. I've lost it since. One of the things that still sticks out is, in Colombia, it's very rare to see a group of girls out by themselves having fun at a table. Generally, there's a dude or group of dudes footing the bill. It's an expectation set by previous experiences. I've seen this in Bogota, BAQ, Medellin, Cali, etc. CTG not as much. They play the "I'm broke" card, but check out their clothes, pricey cell phones, etc. I do agree with the "if you invite, you pay" mode of thinking, but it goes much further than this in Colombia.
Oldest Colombiana trick in the book towards gringos (anybody that isn't Colombian, to them even includes those Colombians who live abroad). You invite a girl that you met, even by internet site, whatever on a date, dinner/movies/discos. She brings along her "friends" or "primas" with her for "security." Ypu're expected to pay for them all. In reality, they're fleecing you for a free expensive (to them) night out on the town that they otherwise couldn't afford nor would attempt. Bottom-line. And the caveat to their checkmate, is they already know that it won't cost them a thing, nor will they have to put out in bed. Plenty of excuses will follow. That being said, these girls will put out...for wolves, not sheep.
One thing that needs to be learned by foreigners who go to Colombia, is the word NO. I know, the beauty of the women blinds you. However, in Colombia, look around. It's a very macho society. Men change women like we change underwear. Men make the rules, and when women dispute it, they get replaced, or cheated on by another chick just as fine. It is what it is. This is what Colombian women respect. They may say all this crap about "Colombian men are dogs," "they don't respect me," "they are machistas" ya ya ya ya. And some women are just as bad as the men. It's all game to draw you (the gullible foreigner) in. Look around the country and see who's screwing these hot chicks in the ass on command, depositing babies and running away. It's generally not foreigners. Trust me, I've been in groups where Colombian dudes invited out some chicas. There was plenty of screwing going on. They don't invite out dead fish.
There are many honest women in BAQ. I have met quite a few over my travels who just wanted some real companionship, were pretty traditional, loved to party with their family and friends, and were loyal. Of course, I've met sheep that turned out to be wolves as well. I screwed them all just the same and still maintain contact with them. Some of my ex-novias, in hindsight, would like to try again, but I try to keep moving forward. I still have the option to screw them when I'm there, boyfriend or not.
Here's a possible problem. These women aren't stupid. You don't give them enough credit. Yes, they talk a lot between themselves and stories travel. How far it travels depends on how many family and friends (from neighborhoods, grade school, college, work, etc.) these women stay in contact with. If a couple of them go to a marriage agency or hit a dating website, you better believe that they tell their friends about the experiences. The free dinners, gifts, nights out about town, with no sex given up. This becomes the expectation.
Here's another possible problem, and not a dig at our older mongers. Most younger Colombian women (20-30 yo) don't prefer men much older than themselves. A few will go for the security, i.e. $$$, associated with that type of relationship, but it's not very common, at least in BAQ. Some will have sex with older men for the $$$$, but realistically, they prefer dudes closer to their ages for relationships. There IS a stigma attached to it. This info comes from several savvy BAQ chicas that I've known for years. We sat in front of their house a while back with their friends talking about it. There were a lot of laughs had by them. Seriously, look around when you're down there. It's not very common at all. Don't kid yourself.
You need to be in charge of your experience. YOU dictate what goes down, which means having a plan B (another chick) and plan C (hooker bars). The word "No" comes to in play here. From the many experiences I've seen, Colombian chicks don't lead, they follow.
- If a chick shows up for a date 45 mins late, leave the date site and initiate plan B and/or plan C. Don't even bother calling. Lack of respect goes two ways.
- If a chick shows up previously unannounced with "friends," finish your drink, be cordial, and prepare to leave. Again, initiate plan B and plan C.
- If a chick isn't feeling you after the 1st date, and you don't sense interest past friendship, put her in friend category, and move on fast. You can even go as far as letting her know that you have another date the next night. Might not change anything, but Colombian chicks are pretty competitive.
- Whatever you do, trust your 1st instinct. Don't waste time.
I've said this a long time ago, the best way to meet regular chicas is for them to be presented to you by a mutual friend, not someone with a vested interest. Girls love playing cupid. My guy friends use me as bait for other girls. So, setting me up nice and comfortable with a nice, fun, sexy chica works in their favor as well. I'm able to translate my sense of humor in Spanish, I dress pretty decently for the occasion, I can dance pretty well to all kinds of music, I drink like a fish, I'm respectable to all, and adaptable to many social settings.
I've also met ladies in passing at their jobs, maybe a secretary in an office, or in a boutique, spa, etc. Those experiences are 50/50, but generally start off with a joke, conversation, light flirting (if cute), and followed up with a request for a # for a possible date later. Even if the chick you're speaking with isn't cute, and she finds you a decent dude, if she spots you checking out a cute co-worker, she'll try to "present" you.
The length of my trips to Colombia range between 2-10 days over a 4 year span. Only this year did I discover the joy of p4p in BAQ. Before that, strictly non-pro ladies. Now, I prefer to mix it up between non-pros and putas.
I hope some of this helps someone. Just sharing my experiences there.
I'll add one more thing because it is important in dealing with women in general.
I had an awful lot of contacts in Barranquilla that also brought either an amiga or sister... hell I had 2 dates set up where they even brought their mother. This kind of shit ticks me off because I am there to meet them, not their whole barrio. Fortunately I learned the solution early on.
What I am about to write will lose a lot of prospects.. but it will also put you in that "mysterious, different category" which will absolutley eat her up inside and now you become the prey.. i.e. now she's trying to get you in the sack.
I had a date that showed up with her mom, 3 aunts, 2 brothers and both brother's girlfriends. I arrived first to the destined location first. She and her mother and aunts then arrived. The mother ordered a round of beer. Then the 2 brothers and the 2 girlfriends arrived before the waiter even had time to get back to us with our beers. Instantly when the brothers and girlfriends showed up and starting moving tables together I stood up, politely took her hand, and walked her about 20 feet away from the table. I told her that I was there to meet her and I didn't appreciate her bringing her whole possy to meet me. She understood, with this sad look in her eyes. She apologized and expected me to accept it and sit down. I walked toward the table, said it's nice meeting everyone and walked toward the door. She ran after me and asked what about the beer? I said, feel free to drink mine because I will not be staying. She asked who is going to pay for them? I said not I.
She continued behind me and as I was getting in my taxi she told me she and her mother didn't have money for a taxi home. <yawn>. I replied, "you are welcome to come back to my hotel with me if you would like." Granted this is the first time I had ever seen this gal face to face. She said nothing. After 5 seconds I shut my door and left in my taxi.
Most are probably now thinking "what an ass!!!" Safe to say, I never called her again nor she to me. About 10 days later I saw her at a restaurant with 2 of her friends... "an open air pizzeria," which I was coincidnetally walking by. I spoke to her briefly, told her it's too bad about our date and wished her no hard feelings. I took a taxi home. After about 45 minutes I get a phone call from her. She asks my address and if she can come over. She was there in 15 minutes and within 10 minutes of her being there, I was in the sack with a hot 18 yr old making passionate love to me. Why?
Answer... it hit her hot spot. Most think I came across as an ass... which I did. But what really happened is something that never happens to women. Women are used to being chased by the same boring men and they are all the same. Women are not used to being blown off. Especially not a hot 18 yr old Colombiana that get more whistles in the street than I blink. This is the excitement and intrigue that I am talking about. She couldn't accept that I was so uninterested in her that I just got up and left on our first date. It was driving her crazy... and sure enough, look at the result.
The alternative would have been to stay at that bar with her mother, aunts, boyfreinds, etc... and I either a) never would have gotten laid, ever! or b) would have had to work her for months.
You want to sack a hot 18 yr old and you are 50+ years old? Don;t count on buying drinks and dinner doing the trick. Being an ass usually won't do the trick either, but when you do it in a way that basically says... hey, oin my culture things are done differently so I don't mean to be an ass, but I'm also not going to waste my time on you. How many guys do you think have ever told this gal... I'm not interested in you, which is basically what me getting up from that table did. That is what did the trick.
Hope that made sense. And sense then, I hold the same philosophy. Sure you can bring a friend, but I've learned on how to make sure the friend gets lost within 5-10 minutes. If you can't get that accomplished... you are now working an uphill battle to get those panties off. And I'm not talking about this 1st date. I'm talking about ever. If that friend stays more than 10 minutes, you sure as heck better make that friend laugh and think you are a God.
Hi I'd like to post my opinion on Barranquilla. I have just come back from this interesting town. I have lived in Barranquilla 14 days only.
I speak fluent spanish and I am a 50 old european man. I am very goodlooking, romantic and very kind to everybody. I am happy when a girl with me is happy.
Before my departing to Barranquilla I have amassed 12-13 phone numbers of regular beautiful girls (by Internet) but I have spoken with them some time only. I have met all of them and they were very kind and nice with me and I with them. I have always paid they taxi to get their home but they come with me for drinking or eating only. I have spent much money for them because they always come with their sisters or friends. The second or third time I've met them I have always asked the to come to my hotel but every girl always refused that invitation. I read here beautiful reports on Barranquilla on regular girls. I have not had any stroke of luck with them. Perhaps my barranquilleras friends were too much beautiful girls than yours? ;)
In your opinion what was my problem?
Luckily I have known an interesting boy and he toke me to some casas (close to my hotel) and the Murillo bars. Murillo bars are wonderful. They are full of interesting and kind girls but they are a little bit cold for my taste. Even it is impossible to kiss them. In 14 days I have fucked prostitutes only.
The only positive aspect of the situation was the Monterrey hotel on the cra 44 with 74. They are is very kind and chica friendly.
This was my experience on Barranquilla.
Absoultley agree with everything... except the part about gals not liking men much older. I find in Barrnaquilla that they do like the older men. in fact, much moreso in Barranquilla than other Colombian cities. That is just my observation. I have a lot of amigas and everyone is different. Some like older, some like the same, some I tease asking them how often they are hanging out in front of the colegio looking for a little boy. This makes them laugh.
But for the most part, security is huge for these gals... older men is that security. ButI'm talking about men they will marry. Not a gringo that they learn his game is just to play.
I've previously done a comparison between Colombia and Lima. I've lost it since. One of the things that still sticks out is, in Colombia, it's very rare to see a group of girls out by themselves having fun at a table. Generally, there's a dude or group of dudes footing the bill. It's an expectation set by previous experiences. I've seen this in Bogota, BAQ, Medellin, Cali, etc. CTG not as much. They play the "I'm broke" card, but check out their clothes, pricey cell phones, etc. I do agree with the "if you invite, you pay" mode of thinking, but it goes much further than this in Colombia.
Oldest Colombiana trick in the book towards gringos (anybody that isn't Colombian, to them even includes those Colombians who live abroad). You invite a girl that you met, even by internet site, whatever on a date, dinner/movies/discos. She brings along her "friends" or "primas" with her for "security." Ypu're expected to pay for them all. In reality, they're fleecing you for a free expensive (to them) night out on the town that they otherwise couldn't afford nor would attempt. Bottom-line. And the caveat to their checkmate, is they already know that it won't cost them a thing, nor will they have to put out in bed. Plenty of excuses will follow. That being said, these girls will put out...for wolves, not sheep.
One thing that needs to be learned by foreigners who go to Colombia, is the word NO. I know, the beauty of the women blinds you. However, in Colombia, look around. It's a very macho society. Men change women like we change underwear. Men make the rules, and when women dispute it, they get replaced, or cheated on by another chick just as fine. It is what it is. This is what Colombian women respect. They may say all this crap about "Colombian men are dogs," "they don't respect me," "they are machistas" ya ya ya ya. And some women are just as bad as the men. It's all game to draw you (the gullible foreigner) in. Look around the country and see who's screwing these hot chicks in the ass on command, depositing babies and running away. It's generally not foreigners. Trust me, I've been in groups where Colombian dudes invited out some chicas. There was plenty of screwing going on. They don't invite out dead fish.
There are many honest women in BAQ. I have met quite a few over my travels who just wanted some real companionship, were pretty traditional, loved to party with their family and friends, and were loyal. Of course, I've met sheep that turned out to be wolves as well. I screwed them all just the same and still maintain contact with them. Some of my ex-novias, in hindsight, would like to try again, but I try to keep moving forward. I still have the option to screw them when I'm there, boyfriend or not.
Here's a possible problem. These women aren't stupid. You don't give them enough credit. Yes, they talk a lot between themselves and stories travel. How far it travels depends on how many family and friends (from neighborhoods, grade school, college, work, etc.) these women stay in contact with. If a couple of them go to a marriage agency or hit a dating website, you better believe that they tell their friends about the experiences. The free dinners, gifts, nights out about town, with no sex given up. This becomes the expectation.
Here's another possible problem, and not a dig at our older mongers. Most younger Colombian women (20-30 yo) don't prefer men much older than themselves. A few will go for the security, i.e. $$$, associated with that type of relationship, but it's not very common, at least in BAQ. Some will have sex with older men for the $$$$, but realistically, they prefer dudes closer to their ages for relationships. There IS a stigma attached to it. This info comes from several savvy BAQ chicas that I've known for years. We sat in front of their house a while back with their friends talking about it. There were a lot of laughs had by them. Seriously, look around when you're down there. It's not very common at all. Don't kid yourself.
You need to be in charge of your experience. YOU dictate what goes down, which means having a plan B (another chick) and plan C (hooker bars). The word "No" comes to in play here. From the many experiences I've seen, Colombian chicks don't lead, they follow.
- If a chick shows up for a date 45 mins late, leave the date site and initiate plan B and/or plan C. Don't even bother calling. Lack of respect goes two ways.
- If a chick shows up previously unannounced with "friends," finish your drink, be cordial, and prepare to leave. Again, initiate plan B and plan C.
- If a chick isn't feeling you after the 1st date, and you don't sense interest past friendship, put her in friend category, and move on fast. You can even go as far as letting her know that you have another date the next night. Might not change anything, but Colombian chicks are pretty competitive.
- Whatever you do, trust your 1st instinct. Don't waste time.
I've said this a long time ago, the best way to meet regular chicas is for them to be presented to you by a mutual friend, not someone with a vested interest. Girls love playing cupid. My guy friends use me as bait for other girls. So, setting me up nice and comfortable with a nice, fun, sexy chica works in their favor as well. I'm able to translate my sense of humor in Spanish, I dress pretty decently for the occasion, I can dance pretty well to all kinds of music, I drink like a fish, I'm respectable to all, and adaptable to many social settings.
I've also met ladies in passing at their jobs, maybe a secretary in an office, or in a boutique, spa, etc. Those experiences are 50/50, but generally start off with a joke, conversation, light flirting (if cute), and followed up with a request for a # for a possible date later. Even if the chick you're speaking with isn't cute, and she finds you a decent dude, if she spots you checking out a cute co-worker, she'll try to "present" you.
The length of my trips to Colombia range between 2-10 days over a 4 year span. Only this year did I discover the joy of p4p in BAQ. Before that, strictly non-pro ladies. Now, I prefer to mix it up between non-pros and putas.
I hope some of this helps someone. Just sharing my experiences there.
FoxesHunter
08-16-07, 09:36
I'd like to add some news about my report on Barranquilla.
One girl on 12 I have contacted on Internet was a beautiful model. I went to her home. She live at a villa in the best area in Barranquilla. I have spoken with their parents. They were very warm and I was with them some hours. Then my wonderful friend told me a gang robbed her cellular phone. Then she asked me if I could buy it so that I could have a good sex with her.
I refused her proposal.
About hotel Monterrey: it is a good, clean and very cheap hotel. They change the sheet every day.
It costs 45-50.000 pesos for the night. Never asked me for extra .... whith icoming girls. It has not pool and Internet.
But I have noticed the regular girls like to get a apartament than an hotel.
Master Yoda
08-16-07, 13:25
It's always nice to have guys like Winner71 and HoofHunter posting on the BAQ page. They would know more than me because they have been there many times.
Winner I too have read literature by david d'angelo's double your dating. I believe the motto is "attraction is not a choice". I wouldn't apply everything he says to Colombia though. :)
FoxHunter I can't give you the details on the mongering. I didn't go to Colombia the first time to monger. I went for the Mrs (well I also wanted to play with the non pros abit :)).
I will stick to what I said earlier. If it is indeed your intention to pick up non-pros you need to meet people and make friend that will introduce you to other friends. This IMHO is the BEST way.
Failing that you could roam around during the day and meet chicas that are working the BuenaVista mall and other places. They are there to serve you as a customer so you could get away with chatting them up. Some will be up for it and some wouldn't. Cali was easier for this sort of thing
I would not go to nightclubs to meet women though. I found the environment was too loud to conduct any kind of decent convo. its the place to take your mrs but not the place to meet them. FYI for higher end places like Frogg legs book well in advance to avoid being rejected entry. It happened to me.
Between HoofHunter and Winner they are both right in a sense that may december relations do happen where the man is older than the women but it is normally out of economics. I have never heard of or seen older men dating high end types. It mostly is lower class women looking for a meal ticket because in the lower classes men cheat. This doesn't normally happen at the top rungs of society. There are exceptions to every rule like unless of course the older gentlen in question is just filthy rich. Then he could date models and beauty queens.
On the whole though I saw more of this kind of thing in Cali then BAQ. All one has to do is step into ChipiChapi to see really hot women with ugly, gordito, older Colombianos.
Hold on a sec....
What the hell are my talking about?...
The gringo I went to meet in San Antonio, Cali was perhaps the ugliest, redneck I have ever seen. He was like 40+ and had bold head. No class at all and he still managed to have nice young chicas visit him in his apartment and stuff them like thanksgiving turkey's. And those chicas were loud in the sack.
You are correct, a lot of the David DAngelo stuff doesn't really work for Colombia. However, I did feel that some of Foxes error was his rapport tactics... i.e. he came across as someone who "da payapa"... evidenced by his last post. Someone he considered as high class asking him to pay for a new cell phone for her. Granted he didn't buy her a new one... but she asked him, so she must have thought there was a shot he would oblige. Thus, I think there are a lot of little tips he may be able to pick up from some of David D's stuff regarding how to make a woman crave and want him as opposed to just being a polite "wuss" as David D would say and buying them things and trying to act like a complete gentleman.
As for the cheating... it's not just the poor or lower class. In Colombia it happens at every level. Does that mean everyone cheats? No. But in Colombia, especially in Barranquilla, Machisto men is a way of life and it's accepted. Many women won't even be with some one who is not machisto because they are so accustomed to this Machisto lifestyle that they are clueless how to act, what to think when so one who is not machisto comes along. Many women would just consider someone who is not machisto as somewhat as a wuss. Human nature has both men and women salivating over a good looking person. I.e. we like to look at hot women, or women in fashion magazines etc. Difference in Colombia, specifically in Barrqnuillla, when a male sees someone who is hot and he wants to bang her... he does, regardless of whether he or she is married. This is not 100%, but for the most part you have to realize it happens A LOT and it happens at all levels of the social ladder in Colombia.
Like I said, this is where the gringo is very different. But that's not always good, as I stated. I once had a Barranquillera girlfriend that just didn't know how to handle the fact that I was all into her and I was not interested in cheating on her. Go figure.
It's always nice to have guys like Winner71 and HoofHunter posting on the BAQ page. They would know more than me because they have been there many times.
Winner I too have read literature by david d'angelo's double your dating. I believe the motto is "attraction is not a choice". I wouldn't apply everything he says to Colombia though. :)
FoxHunter I can't give you the details on the mongering. I didn't go to Colombia the first time to monger. I went for the Mrs (well I also wanted to play with the non pros abit :)).
I will stick to what I said earlier. If it is indeed your intention to pick up non-pros you need to meet people and make friend that will introduce you to other friends. This IMHO is the BEST way.
Failing that you could roam around during the day and meet chicas that are working the BuenaVista mall and other places. They are there to serve you as a customer so you could get away with chatting them up. Some will be up for it and some wouldn't. Cali was easier for this sort of thing
I would not go to nightclubs to meet women though. I found the environment was too loud to conduct any kind of decent convo. its the place to take your mrs but not the place to meet them. FYI for higher end places like Frogg legs book well in advance to avoid being rejected entry. It happened to me.
Between HoofHunter and Winner they are both right in a sense that may december relations do happen where the man is older than the women but it is normally out of economics. I have never heard of or seen older men dating high end types. It mostly is lower class women looking for a meal ticket because in the lower classes men cheat. This doesn't normally happen at the top rungs of society. There are exceptions to every rule like unless of course the older gentlen in question is just filthy rich. Then he could date models and beauty queens.
On the whole though I saw more of this kind of thing in Cali then BAQ. All one has to do is step into ChipiChapi to see really hot women with ugly, gordito, older Colombianos.
Hold on a sec....
What the hell are my talking about?...
The gringo I went to meet in San Antonio, Cali was perhaps the ugliest, redneck I have ever seen. He was like 40+ and had bold head. No class at all and he still managed to have nice young chicas visit him in his apartment and stuff them like thanksgiving turkey's. And those chicas were loud in the sack.
I'd rather pay a hot 20 year old hooker a lot of money (by Colombian standards) and have a companion and sexual plaything. It's a lot easier and you don't have to play mind games. And the sex is cheaper.
Master Yoda
08-16-07, 22:04
You are correct, a lot of the David DAngelo stuff doesn't really work for Colombia. However, I did feel that some of Foxes error was his rapport tactics... i.e. he came across as someone who "da payapa"... evidenced by his last post. Someone he considered as high class asking him to pay for a new cell phone for her. Granted he didn't buy her a new one... but she asked him, so she must have thought there was a shot he would oblige. Thus, I think there are a lot of little tips he may be able to pick up from some of David D's stuff regarding how to make a woman crave and want him as opposed to just being a polite "wuss" as David D would say and buying them things and trying to act like a complete gentleman. From that point of view....Yes one must be a man and feel like a man in Latin America. Not just Colombia. I would definately agree with you from that point of view. One thing I did notice in Colombia is men here don't understand "No" an are quite persistent when pursuing women. if a man is persistent in Colombia he will usually get the woman its just a matter of how much time and money are you prepared to invest.
Difference in Colombia, specifically in Barrqnuillla, when a male sees someone who is hot and he wants to bang her... he does, regardless of whether he or she is married. This is not 100%, but for the most part you have to realize it happens A LOT and it happens at all levels of the social ladder in Colombia.Yes and this is the reason I was told to not bother with having a long term woman in Colombia unless I plan to be there longer term. If you visit and go back to the US frequently, that so called "novia" of yours will be banging her boyfriend whilst you are in the US paying money to her. Best to be there and and have your eye on her.
I had an awful lot of contacts in Barranquilla that also brought either an amiga or sister... hell I had 2 dates set up where they even brought their mother. This kind of shit ticks me off because I am there to meet them, not their whole barrio.
Most are probably now thinking "what an ass!!!" Safe to say, I never called her again nor she to me. Most think I came across as an ass... which I did.You absolutely weren't the ass. They were! I've had them try to play this same shit with me. But like somebody else here emphasized. Just say no! Get up and walk away and let them know they're not dealing with some rug they're gonna walk all over.
I had this one who I hadn't even met one time ask (at least she asked) if she could bring a friend for "security" and that kind of bullshit. I said no, but that if she wanted to feel safe we didn't have to leave the hotel for dinner. We could keep it in a very public place and so on. Well, she said she was OK with my decision (and that we didn't have to eat at my hotel), but then 2 hours before the date she sends me a text message (didn't even have the spine to call me! ) saying she's sick and can't make it. Bullshit!
Well I didn't give a rip because I had other non-pro and pro action all lined up. I had another situation where this one chick has the nerve to ask if not 1 but 2 friends could come along (at least she asked). Easy response. No! I said I was trying to "conocer" (get to know) her and not her friends. Just say no. And mean business! I've met plenty of locals who won't put up with that shit. Neither should we!
By the way, the only time I have had somebody show up for a date with somebody else in tow without asking first was when a gringa did that to me in the States. Now get this. She was a blonde and shows up with this older black lady who she introduced as her "mother"! Now how weird was that one? Turns out it wasn't really her mother but somebody who she had a close relationship with. But man was I pissed off!
One time in my life (and the last time mind you), I actually agreed to meet somebody who wanted to show up with two friends. It was in the States and again involved a gringa. Well, it was a blind date kind of thing (I don't do those anymore either), and not only did my date turn out to be unattractive, but she had no confidence and sat there talking to her friends all night rather than to me (both of whom looked better than she did).
Now, it's true that in some settings (like in Latin countries) the chick that wants to do this sort of thing is just trying to get into your pockets and impress her friends at your expense (literally), but it's also true that sometimes the chick is really lacking in confidence. I have no interest in meeting somebody who is so lacking a spine that she can't even get up the confidence to go meet somebody for a first date without having her friends there as some sort of security blanket for her.
It's hard enough meeting somebody for the first time one-on-one. How selfish for them to put us in the situation of having to meet multiple people all at once when they only have to deal with meeting one! Don't they ever think about what we might be more comfortable with, especially at first? Sometimes I just feel like it's not worth it. Just fuck 'um and forget 'um! Hell, like the man said. The locals do that!
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... You need to be in charge of your experience. YOU dictate what goes down, which means having a plan B (another chick) and plan C (hooker bars). The word "No" comes to in play here. From the many experiences I've seen, Colombian chicks don't lead, they follow.
- If a chick shows up for a date 45 mins late, leave the date site and initiate plan B and/or plan C. Don't even bother calling. Lack of respect goes two ways.
- If a chick shows up previously unannounced with "friends," finish your drink, be cordial, and prepare to leave. Again, initiate plan B and plan C.
- If a chick isn't feeling you after the 1st date, and you don't sense interest past friendship, put her in friend category, and move on fast. You can even go as far as letting her know that you have another date the next night. Might not change anything, but Colombian chicks are pretty competitive.
- Whatever you do, trust your 1st instinct. Don't waste time ...
GREAT advice!
Especially ... trust your first instinct ... don't waste time!
... Here's another possible problem, and not a dig at our older mongers. Most younger Colombian women (20-30 yo) don't prefer men much older than themselves. A few will go for the security, i.e. $$$, associated with that type of relationship, but it's not very common, at least in BAQ. Some will have sex with older men for the $$$$, but realistically, they prefer dudes closer to their ages for relationships. There IS a stigma attached to it. This info comes from several savvy BAQ chicas that I've known for years. We sat in front of their house a while back with their friends talking about it. There were a lot of laughs had by them. Seriously, look around when you're down there. It's not very common at all. Don't kid yourself ...
Once again I have to disagree with this completely.
I have visited and semi lived in Colombia for years.
The fact is, age is only a factor if you let it be.
Your age is only one of many of your particular characteristics.
Your general physical condition, your personality, your communication skills, your self confidence, etc, etc mean so much more than your age.
The culture accepts younger women with older men. There really is NOT a great stigma attached to it. That's the beauty of their culture.
I have many many Colombian friends, actually more Colombian friends than in the USA. Girls and guys.
Most of the Colombianas I know want to meet an older guy. A guy with experience in life and a guy they believe will be more faithfull to them ... thinking that a younger guy will still have more of his wild side about him.
Of course there are the chicas that look for an older guy for his money too.
That's obvious.
And of course there are chicas that prefer guys closer to their own age.
But, like I said before, age is only a factor if you let it be.
My newest novia (girlfriend) is about 25 years younger than me and trust me, it's not for the $$. I learned to keep that in check years ago.
You can't be stingy, but you can't be stupid either ... whole other discussion.
Good luck!
Master Yoda
08-17-07, 10:44
Ricker... I do think age disparity relationships do happen in Colombia for sure but it wasn't common in BAQ. In Cali I saw it alot but the women weren't supermodels just decent.
I would agree with most guys here that older men can date younger with less hassel but I agree with HoofHunter that it's really down to economics and $$$$ (or in my case ££££ :)). The further down the lady is in society and the more lower class the less likely she is to care about age. The further up in society the girl and the higher in class the woman the more she is going to want someone close to her age. Girls from really affluent families wouldn't date old and rich Colombiano or gringo. I just doesn't happen.
In Colombia I didn't notice wild differences like some will make out exist. i.e Miss Colombia types with older men. They were just decent.
Adios
Once again I have to disagree with this completely.
I have visited and semi lived in Colombia for years.
The fact is, age is only a factor if you let it be.
Your age is only one of many of your particular characteristics.
Your general physical condition, your personality, your communication skills, your self confidence, etc, etc mean so much more than your age.
The culture accepts younger women with older men. There really is NOT a great stigma attached to it. That's the beauty of their culture.
I have many many Colombian friends, actually more Colombian friends than in the USA. Girls and guys.
Most of the Colombianas I know want to meet an older guy. A guy with experience in life and a guy they believe will be more faithfull to them ... thinking that a younger guy will still have more of his wild side about him.
Of course there are the chicas that look for an older guy for his money too.
That's obvious.
And of course there are chicas that prefer guys closer to their own age.
But, like I said before, age is only a factor if you let it be.
My newest novia (girlfriend) is about 25 years younger than me and trust me, it's not for the $$. I learned to keep that in check years ago.
You can't be stingy, but you can't be stupid either ... whole other discussion.
Good luck!
Ricker... I do think age disparity relationships do happen in Colombia for sure but it wasn't common in BAQ. In Cali I saw it alot but the women weren't supermodels just decent.
I would agree with most guys here that older men can date younger with less hassel but I agree with HoofHunter that it's really down to economics and $$$$ (or in my case ££££ :)). The further down the lady is in society and the more lower class the less likely she is to care about age. The further up in society the girl and the higher in class the woman the more she is going to want someone close to her age. Girls from really affluent families wouldn't date old and rich Colombiano or gringo. I just doesn't happen.
In Colombia I didn't notice wild differences like some will make out exist. i.e Miss Colombia types with older men. They were just decent.
Adios
Amigo, trust me, younger women dating older guys is prevalent in Barranquilla and all over Colombia ... it's not a regional thing ... it's culturally accepted.
You mention that girls from affluent families wouldn't date an older guy. Well, that's not true either, they do, though it's not as prevalent.
I have several friends who have girlfriends from this higher economic level family.
Also, there are many many more girls in Colombia that are NOT from affluent families.
I personally prefer not to date these mostly spoiled princesses from affluent families. They are generally not the sweet and beautiful and grateful chicas that make Colombia so wonderful.
Whether or not an older guy, for example a guy in his 50's, can attract a younger woman in her 20's, apart from his wallet, depends on the guy.
If the guy is 50 years old, out of shape, doesn't speak Spanish, looks older than his age, is a sad sack, etc, etc ... his chances are obviously minimized.
If you or others want to worry about their age difference in meeting and dating regular Colombianas, that's fine.
For guys that visit Colombia and are cool and fun and treat people respectfully, the best advice is to forget about an age hangup, and enjoy ... you'll most likely find more than you can handle.
I'm speaking from experience amigo :)
take care.
Master Yoda
08-17-07, 21:39
My amigo, I hope you don't think I was trying to undermine you.
I respect you alot because you have alot more experience than I do. You have been to all kinds of countries including Venezuela and Peru etc etc. Hell you were the guy I PM'ed that convinced me to try Colombia.
I am just reporting my observations.
Amigo, trust me, younger women dating older guys is prevalent in Barranquilla and all over Colombia ... it's not a regional thing ... it's culturally accepted.
Of course its prevalent in BAQ. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I did see some older men with younger women but I just didn't see as many as I did in Cali. It could be because I didn't see many older gringos in BAQ. I saw a few but in comparison to Cali it was minimal. There were loads of gringos in Cali and they ones that had women were much younger. Take my friend he had many lined up.
You mention that girls from affluent families wouldn't date an older guy. Well, that's not true either, they do, though it's not as prevalent.
I have several friends who have girlfriends from this higher economic level family.It probably does happen if the man in question has the money. If a man that is wealthy enough lives in Colombia, has the right status and connections there is a small chance he could even be able to date Miss Colombia contestants or model types. A guy could look like Hugh Hefner could easily do it if he has the the right status and money resourses but your typical average older gringo from the US that doesn't speak spanish or have class can forget it.
I personally prefer not to date these mostly spoiled princesses from affluent families. They are generally not the sweet and beautiful and grateful chicas that make Colombia so wonderful.True.. I can't argue with that. i prefer those ones too. They are more feminine
Whether or not an older guy, for example a guy in his 50's, can attract a younger woman in her 20's, apart from his wallet, depends on the guy.
If the guy is 50 years old, out of shape, doesn't speak Spanish, looks older than his age, is a sad sack, etc, etc ... his chances are obviously minimized.
If you or others want to worry about their age difference in meeting and dating regular Colombianas, that's fine.
For guys that visit Colombia and are cool and fun and treat people respectfully, the best advice is to forget about an age hangup, and enjoy ... you'll most likely find more than you can handle. Also True
Hasta Luego
Master Yoda
08-17-07, 21:55
Now that we got the discussion out of the way I will some pics. Here is one pic of this chica I was with in BAQ. She had the nicest boobs.Too bad I couldn't fuck her though :(.
Now that we got the discussion out of the way I will some pics. Here is one pic of this chica I was with in BAQ. She had the nicest boobs.Too bad I couldn't fuck her though :(.
I naiively used to dislike enhancements. This is a perfect, perfect example of why I changed my mind!! Thanks, Yoda!
Suerte!
Polvo
Wait a minute... she let you take a pic of her tits and you couldn't fuck her? did you pay her to take that picture? Me thinks it had something to do with your game. No non-pro in any city is going to fuck someone just because they have money. That is why we call them non-pros. If it was about the money they would be called either a pro, semi-pro or prepago.
Barranquilla is the easist city in Colombia to have success with non-pros. But you must have game and need to speak spanish. Money or buying dinners and/or drinks means nothing. It's all about the rapport. Age means nothing. The only situation where age may be a factor is a upper-class hottie that has a zillion guys courting her. But honestly, if she's over 22... and she's an upper class hottie, she doesn't have a zillion guys courting her because once a gal hits 22 in Barranquilla, she is unwanted goods by 99% of the costenos.
You must have been going after 18-20 yr olds in the top 10% income bracket that can twinkle her finger and have 10 marriage offers. It's that, or you didn't create the rapport. The fact that you took a pic of her topless almost tells me she was waiting for you to make your move, and you did not know how. Simply asking and her saying no is not what this was about. To many gals, no really means yes, you just have to know how to work it.
Now that we got the discussion out of the way I will some pics. Here is one pic of this chica I was with in BAQ. She had the nicest boobs.Too bad I couldn't fuck her though :(.
Master Yoda
08-18-07, 02:04
Hi winner,
Actually this is one of 4 pros I did in Colombia. I misplaced my vitamin C so I couldn't get hard enough. She gave me a quality BBJ.After many attempts I just gave up.
Hi winner,
Actually this is one of 4 pros I did in Colombia. I misplaced my vitamin C so I couldn't get hard enough. She gave me a quality BBJ.After many attempts I just gave up.
Yo tambien. And then there are those CIMs before you get a chance to fuck.
My amigo, I hope you don't think I was trying to undermine
No big deal amigo, just joining the discussion.
Hope you're having fun out there! I'm just back from another great time in Cali.
Thinking of making a pit stop in Barranquilla in a week or so.
Take care.
Absoultley agree with everything... except the part about gals not liking men much older. I find in Barrnaquilla that they do like the older men. in fact, much moreso in Barranquilla than other Colombian cities. That is just my observation. I have a lot of amigas and everyone is different. Some like older, some like the same, some I tease asking them how often they are hanging out in front of the colegio looking for a little boy. This makes them laugh.
But for the most part, security is huge for these gals... older men is that security. ButI'm talking about men they will marry. Not a gringo that they learn his game is just to play.Winner, Hunter: You guys have posted some true quality info instead in this area. I've live in BOG three months now and much of what you guys have said I can confirm, which is reassuring for me that my assessments aren't off.
As for May-December relationships, I met a 22 y. O. Model (20+ years younger than me) from BAQ on www.latin-wife.com who has super traditional values who is now my novia in BOG. I have to say that from the first time I met her, I let her know quickly that there was no disrespecting me, that I had other hot chick options, and that I had no problems walking away from her. I think that Alpha Male approach minimized any age difference issues ASAP. But the image you project, your personality, and things that you do (what ressturants, activities, etc) have to confirm that attitude, I. E. , actions speak louder than words.
I also found that if you go out of your way to find are hot young (<23 y. O.) pros with a sense of fashion, you can learn a lot after your pop by talking to them about relationships, clothers, hygene/personal appearance (too much body hair, fat? ), etc. The fact is that you can tell if they like you and if that is that case, friken use the opportunity to improve yourself with the goal of meeting hot non-pros.
Also, about the David the. , 90% of his stuff is money except you have to adjust for the cultural differences, e. G. , the cocky-funny approach must be spoon fed until they understand your style of humor otherwise you will immediately come off as a sarcastic gringo asshole; also not buying drinks for chicks is the wrong approach in Colombia because its a basic way to invite/open/approach chicks to let them know your interested.-your different because the colombian dudes hold onto their pesos but do other things to compensate for their lack of cash, e. G. , humor, engage in entertaining conversations.-which you should also learn to do in spanish.
Now that we got the discussion out of the way I will some pics. Here is one pic of this chica I was with in BAQ. She had the nicest boobs.Too bad I couldn't fuck her though :(.Boobs: real or not real?
Beautiful for sure, heavenly if natural.
This is probably the best advice I have heard.
As for May-December relationships, I met a 22 y. O. Model (20+ years younger than me) from BAQ on www.latin-wife.com who has super traditional values who is now my novia in BOG. I have to say that from the first time I met her, I let her know quickly that there was no disrespecting me, that I had other hot chick options, and that I had no problems walking away from her. I think that Alpha Male approach minimized any age difference issues ASAP. But the image you project, your personality, and things that you do (what ressturants, activities, etc) have to confirm that attitude, I. E. , actions speak louder than words.This is the best advice have heard. If you older dudes want non pros the just use the freakin agencys. When I went to dr to monger there were agencys for older dudes looking for pussy. These girls are normally the ones that latin men don't want because they have probably had babies. Foreign men don't give a fuck.
Chao
I totally disagree with this.
Why would someone that wants a non-pro want to go solely to an agency or to an agency at all?
Foreign men don't care if a woman has a baby?
This is probably the best advice I have heard.
This is the best advice have heard. If you older dudes want non pros the just use the freakin agencys. When I went to dr to monger there were agencys for older dudes looking for pussy. These girls are normally the ones that latin men don't want because they have probably had babies. Foreign men don't give a fuck.
Chao
I totally disagree with this.
Why would someone that wants a non-pro want to go solely to an agency or to an agency at all?
Foreign men don't care if a woman has a baby?Look I don't want to take too much from this thread. This is a mongering forum after all not a romance site.
Yes w71, the agency pretty much have the all the women that want to with a gringo. They are tired of men in their country. Dude the women that are really really attractive never really date gringos at all. MOST gringos virtually have no standards, they will fuck anything that opens its legs in down south.
Atractive women will date their own men from their won culture, that are young, sexy and very rich with families that have lucrative businesses. These guys give the women things gringos can't. I have the opportunity to see very attractive women in Costa Rica one time. When I say attractive I mean very very very attractive. I have see girls like Nicole Aldana (look up name). I even seen one beauty contest in Costa Rica. All of the women there had boyfriends of the kind I described. Young, sexy, costa Ricans that were suave and that were rich.
You wouldn't find these types in agencys.
... As for May-December relationships, I met a 22 y. O. Model (20+ years younger than me) from BAQ on www.latin-wife.com who has super traditional values who is now my novia in BOG ...
Checked out this agency website. Nice fotos.
I found an ex-novia of mine on the site ... in the 18-20 range.
I met her on the Cupidos website.
I would suspect that many of these chicas can be met on the internet sites, amigos, cupidos, etc.
Checked out this agency website. Nice fotos.
I found an ex-novia of mine on the site ... in the 18-20 range.
I met her on the Cupidos website.
I would suspect that many of these chicas can be met on the internet sites, amigos, cupidos, etc.The owner of this site pushed the $1200 bachelor weekend package but also offers a 40 email address for $125 (I paid $65 but his rates has changed since). He checks to see if the chica is interested in talking to you and, if so, he gives you her email, which you can then use msn chat to talk connect. Since I live in Bogota, I didn't waste a lot of time email/chatting and just asked for their cell number. I got about 15 solide emails from good looking women and end up with the best looking girl on the site as my novia.
Anyway, as far as older guys and dating sites. Yeah, I don't agree with that is their best approach. My recommendation is that if you are interested in meeting colombian women, you work ALL avenues in making connections, cupidos, dating agencies, friends of friends, etc. The bottom line you have to learn to handle/work multiple leads and meeting them in person. Its a volume game, the more opportunities you develop, the greater your chances of meeting hot non pros. No matter what your age.
In short, you must hustle to create a situation where you are in a position to be THE selector, not the woman. If you only have a couple of options, you are the selectee and women can smell your desperations/limited options/lack of ability to attract other women. Think about it, you are essentially working to put yourself in the same position as good looking women are in: they chose who will fuck them among a group of eligible candidates. Do the same, and believe me, they will instantly know you are not another gringo.
I also found that if you go out of your way to find are hot young (<23 y. O.) pros with a sense of fashion, you can learn a lot after your pop by talking to them about relationships, clothers, hygene/personal appearance (too much body hair, fat? ), etc. The fact is that you can tell if they like you and if that is that case, friken use the opportunity to improve yourself with the goal of meeting hot non-pros.
Great point.
My regular Colombiana pros have taken a proprietary interest in making me better (and more attractive to other Colombianas!). The latest one paid for me to have a pedicure and a manicure by a nice Dominicana (I never had a manicure in my entire old life). Another time I used to wear shorts without underwear to keep ventilated in our hot climate - a chica told me that was gross to chicas, so now I always wear nice underwear!! Lots more examples re clothes, music, spanish movies, etc.
-zing
Great point.
My regular Colombiana pros have taken a proprietary interest in making me better (and more attractive to other Colombianas!). The latest one paid for me to have a pedicure and a manicure by a nice Dominicana (I never had a manicure in my entire old life). Another time I used to wear shorts without underwear to keep ventilated in our hot climate - a chica told me that was gross to chicas, so now I always wear nice underwear!! Lots more examples re clothes, music, spanish movies, etc.
-zingThats what I call pimpin'
Member #3437
08-29-07, 15:55
Ricker... I do think age disparity relationships do happen in Colombia for sure but it wasn't common in BAQ.
Adios
When I was 43 I had a an absolutely smoking hot 18 year old girlfriend in Barranquilla. I used to fly into Barranquilla, visit her, Taxi to Cartagena, go to Aviance and change my departure city to CTG, then visit with my 20 year old normal girlfriend in CTG. This all came to a screeching halt after about a year of it, when my BAQ girlfriend just happened to be in CTG shopping and saw me walking with my CTG girlfriend. Like a girlfriend, she didn't say a word, but called me later and cussed me out in spanish words I hadn't even heard before. After that I never heard from her again.
As for my 40 something aquaintance Ricker (hey buddy!) I saw him in Medellin with a 19 year old girlfriend who was real sweet, and I was courting her younger sister. So trust what Ricker says. When you get to know real colombians you will find out that age differences are common. The problem with the gringos is not that they are 40, but that they have on shorts, black socks, and Support the troups! Tee shirts, are ignorant of Colombian culture, mostly don't speak spanish, smile suggestively at young girls, have a superior than tho attitude and are known as and act like sex tourists. Many of these guys can't get normal girls in american..why should they be able to get one in colombia? It requires a different level of game to get a normal girl in colombia then some guys have. Zing made a post about some grooming tips, which a extremely important in Colombia. Your shoes, for instance, can make a girl shy away from you. Look around at the colombians..you see any good looking colombian guys walking around in a tourist T, shorts and sandals?
So guys, your age is probably NOT your biggest obstacle in getting a smoking hot girlfriend in Colombia, if that is your desire. If you want a puta, don't change. If you want a real girlfriend, not just a paid for GFE, look in the mirror, get your teeth cleaned, get a haircut and keep it neat, get some cloths, learn some culture, introduce yourself to the shower head and the deodorant stick , buy some expensive cologne and use it, learn some spanish and some colombian culture, drop the USA is Best! attitude and seperate yourself from the sex tourists. That is a good start.
MiamiHeatLuver
08-29-07, 16:17
When I was 43 I had a an absolutely smoking hot 18 year old girlfriend in Barranquilla. I used to fly into Barranquilla, visit her, Taxi to Cartagena, go to Aviance and change my departure city to CTG, then visit with my 20 year old normal girlfriend in CTG. This all came to a screeching halt after about a year of it, when my BAQ girlfriend just happened to be in CTG shopping and saw me walking with my CTG girlfriend. Like a girlfriend, she didn't say a word, but called me later and cussed me out in spanish words I hadn't even heard before. After that I never heard from her again.
As for my 40 something aquaintance Ricker (hey buddy!) I saw him in Medellin with a 19 year old girlfriend who was real sweet, and I was courting her younger sister. So trust what Ricker says. When you get to know real colombians you will find out that age differences are common. The problem with the gringos is not that they are 40, but that they have on shorts, black socks, and Support the troups! Tee shirts, are ignorant of Colombian culture, mostly don't speak spanish, smile suggestively at young girls, have a superior than tho attitude and are known as and act like sex tourists. Many of these guys can't get normal girls in american..why should they be able to get one in colombia? It requires a different level of game to get a normal girl in colombia then some guys have. Zing made a post about some grooming tips, which a extremely important in Colombia. Your shoes, for instance, can make a girl shy away from you. Look around at the colombians..you see any good looking colombian guys walking around in a tourist T, shorts and sandals?
So guys, your age is probably NOT your biggest obstacle in getting a smoking hot girlfriend in Colombia, if that is your desire. If you want a puta, don't change. If you want a real girlfriend, not just a paid for GFE, look in the mirror, get your teeth cleaned, get a haircut and keep it neat, get some cloths, learn some culture, introduce yourself to the shower head and the deodorant stick , buy some expensive cologne and use it, learn some spanish and some colombian culture, drop the USA is Best! attitude and seperate yourself from the sex tourists. That is a good start.
Keeping up with general hygiene, and looking good is much much more prevelant and required in MDE. But it should be a given any and everywhere! lol. You were courting the YOUNGER sister of the 19yr old? I dont want to know! lol
I can vouch for Westy's CTG novia. She's hot.
I think Hoof was talking about fat, old guys like me. I never get any.
PS - Just funnin' Hoof.
Member #3437
08-29-07, 17:12
Keeping up with general hygiene, and looking good is much much more prevelant and required in MDE. But it should be a given any and everywhere! lol. You were courting the YOUNGER sister of the 19yr old? I dont want to know! lol
18. Now you know
Member #3437
08-29-07, 17:13
I can vouch for Westy's CTG novia. She's hot.
I think Hoof was talking about fat, old guys like me. I never get any.
PS - Just funnin' Hoof.
Tom never gets any? hahahahahahah...funniest shit ever on ISG.
I arrived at my hotel around 6 pm and decided to see if I could get some fun in the city.
I decided to go around carrera 46 and 73 where several clubs were reported.
When I arrived at Juernes (Carrera 44 72-243) it was too early and there was no one in the club. The doorman told me that the girls would arrive around 7:30 pm.
So I decided to walk till the next club : Lusitania (Carrera 44 74-58 in front of the Monterey hotel), but it was also too early.
I then walked to third club near by : La Hoja (Carrera 44 72-243) but it was closed and not very appealing from the outside.
As it was still early (7 pm), I decided to look for Variedades Loly for which I had 2 different directions : Carrera 48 69-84 and Carrera 49 72-161, but I couldn’t find it in any of these addresses.
At that moment, it was almost 7:30 and I was in a bad shape for having walking so much, I was sweat.
I returned to Juernes and enter the place. They had 6 girls seated on table in a big dark place. As none of the girls looked sexy to me, I just left and walked till Lusitania once more.
When I entered the place they only had 3 girls at that moment.
None of my taste neither, so I went out. When I was out a girl came close and start a conversation with me. She was nice and my kind of girl (doll). After 2 minutes I asked her to explain me the rules of the place. She asked for 130 for an hour room included, but when I explained her that I was hardly feeling something with a condom she told me that she wouldn’t do it. She tried to convince me to go touching my dick (quite hard at that moment), she then proposed me to perform “maybe” a BBBJ but I said no thanks and left. At the same moment arrived a very cute blond girl but I didn’t ask her neither.
I don’t know if I’m having too much imagination, but once a girl tells me NO to BBFS in a casa, I rarely ask a second girl because it could put her in trouble if she tells me YES as all the other girls would know she practices BBFS.
I walked till La Hoja again even if I didn’t like the outside, but it was still close.
It was then 8 pm and I had no solution.
Looking at my Palm, I found the direction of Victor (Carrera 48 72-93) where I had had a girl several months ago. As it was not very far, I walked till there.
When I arrived in that old house, they presented me 8 girls, 2 doable.
I asked to talk with one of the doable, a thin nice girl, but when she sat there was no feeling between us, she asked for 140 K for an hour plus the motel but she was kind of shy and would not explain her service. So I even didn’t ask for BBFS and said no thanks. After that I asked if I could talk to the other slim girl, but they presented me another girl that was not in the first presentation.
As she looked ok to me, we sat together and start to talk.
She looked better that the first one but nothing special good or bad neither.
I asked her how much she would charge and she asked for 140 K for 2 hours plus the motel.
That was more reasonable, and as her general attitude was ok I explained her that I hardly feel anything with condom and that I’d like to know if she could do something for me. The answer came immediately : NO.
That was the end of it. I stood up and left the place. Outside, there was a Taxi talking with Victor, I got in the Taxi and asked him if he would know any other place with girls except the one I had already visited. He proposed me to go to the apartment of a girl he knew not very far.
So, there we go and arrived to a house. The Taxi man called the girl and she is obviously not the kind of girl I’m looking for (tall and fatty), but she is nice and have a good conversation and look pleasant. So why not ? I asked her how much she would charge and she told me 150 for 2 to 3 hours. I then explained her my problem with condoms and she stared at me for a good minute before telling me that yes but not very long.
She then walked back to her house, got her things and we went to the Sahara Motel that was near by. I paid the Taxi and we got in the room.
Curiously, her behaviour changed once in the room. She was no more leading the relation but put her on a more passive behaviour. She then went to the bathroom and washed her pussy. I asked her to have a shower with me, but she told me no !!!
Then, I realised that the shower only had cold water. So I quickly showered and then went to the bed where Luz Marina (that’s the name she gave me) was waiting for me with a towel on her.
We ordered a beer for her and a bottle of water for me and start our new relation.
She told me that if I came it would end her service. I told her that the agreement was 2 to 3 hours and that I would probably come twice. After 5 minutes she agreed with that after I told her that it was still time to stop everything and go back to her home.
I decided to start with my favourite DATY and she left me do it, moving her pussy nicely, but it was clear that she was not enjoying it. After a few minutes, I turned to enter in 69, but she asked me to go on my back and she went on me. At that moment, I had her pussy on my mouth and was licking very strongly. She then started the Blow job, but I realised that she had covered me !!! I was a little bit mad, but I had to recognise that she was sucking as hell !!! So I left her suck me covered. As she told me after, all depends on what you do with the tongue, and yes, she knew what to do with her tongue on my dick.
Meanwhile, I was still licking her pussy and I even put half a finger in her ass.
But she was sucking me so strong that I finally came. I had difficulties to get back the control of my dick as she wanted to milk me dry.
We then had a rest, she watched a TV novella and we also speak a little bit.
After 30 minutes, I was back to business again. She helped me with a HJ and then she told me that I had to fuck her first covered and that if I had a problem we would see.
Unfortunately for me, her pussy was not as good as her mouth, and after 15 minutes of hard fucking Cow girl, Missionary, doggy, I was loosing stiffness. She then decided to blow me again, but she did it so hard that it became even painful.
I stopped her after a while and asked to return doggy. 5 minutes later, she was so dry that it was hard to fuck. Then I took the condom out and that time entered bareback into her pussy.
That was really good! She got immediately wet again and I recover all the wonderful feelings of a BBFS.
We did it for no more than 5 minutes after what I got my second climax of the day (yes, out of her, of course!).
We then washed again, called the Taxi, paid the Motel (30 K for the room, the beer and the water), got dressed and left.
I have different feelings;
1st, She sucks like Hell, I mean she is on my top 5 best blower ever.
2nd, Her behaviour once in the room was very different (shy) than out of the room
3rd, She really needs to lose weight and she told me that she plans to have a surgery for that.
I don’t think I would repeat her, but if a tall fatty that sucks like hell interest you, you may find her at Victor’s place.
Just ask for Luz Marina (a girl from Valledupar).
Cheers
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
...It was then 8 pm and I had no solution.
Looking at my Palm...
hahahah, fantastic!
Hoof Hunter
08-30-07, 01:24
I can vouch for Westy's CTG novia. She's hot.
I think Hoof was talking about fat, old guys like me. I never get any.
PS - Just funnin' Hoof.
No stress, buddy. I saw your talent. Definitely wasn't directed at you.
A few notes...
1) 140k-150k... geez. why would you pay 140k-150k and settle for a fatty (dog) + 30k for the room when you can go at it with a 10 in Murrillo for 25k +5k for the room?
2) Why are you going out at 7:30pm. Do you really expect any gals to be there. 11pm is a good time to try these places.
3) Have you learned from this experience how foolish it is to talk BB beofre going into the room. The gal sucked you off with a condom on after you agreed, no condom... and you still paid her 150k. You could have gotten a complete 10 for 25k pesos... forget talking about bareback and sweet talk her once you are in the room. If you can't convince her to do it for free, 5-10k pesos will do the trick.
4) You must have been sweating like a dog walking from place to place.. and at 7:30pm. Next time, take a cab to Murillo, walk into 1 place, find your perfect 10, sweet talk her, buy her a beer for 2k pesos, make her seem like she is an angel. LEt her talk you into taking you into the back room, pay your 25k pesos. You start playing with her and get her all hot and heavy and then try to enter without a condom or let her start sucking you and if she puts it in, go about 15 seconds and yank it off and tell her your problem. She'll agree to let you go BB... it may take 10k pesos, but she'll agree. If she doesn't, what do you lose? a whopping 25k pesos? At least you will actually enjoy your time for an hour flirting with her, playing with her etc. As opposed to this, walk from place to place to place like you are on a mission and everyone knows it and they know they can charge anything they want and no one wants to give in because they don't want to be known as the desperate one that fucked the freak. Thus you end up getting what you want eventually with the barrio dog and paying 150k +30k pesos for it.
Was it worth it? Or would you have preferred to knock down 4 beers and your perfect 10 in Murillo knock down 4 beers and she dances on your dick and sucks face with you for an hour before you go do the deed for 25k +5k for the room and maybe 10k for bareback... and I say maybe because I have just never had a gal say no before. It's your method that is killing you. You have to make them want you. You have to come across as that cool cat that everyone wants to fuck. Hell, it's your money and becasue of your method the gals are running away from you.
I arrived at my hotel around 6 pm and decided to see if I could get some fun in the city.
I decided to go around carrera 46 and 73 where several clubs were reported.
When I arrived at Juernes (Carrera 44 72-243) it was too early and there was no one in the club. The doorman told me that the girls would arrive around 7:30 pm.
So I decided to walk till the next club : Lusitania (Carrera 44 74-58 in front of the Monterey hotel), but it was also too early.
I then walked to third club near by : La Hoja (Carrera 44 72-243) but it was closed and not very appealing from the outside.
As it was still early (7 pm), I decided to look for Variedades Loly for which I had 2 different directions : Carrera 48 69-84 and Carrera 49 72-161, but I couldn’t find it in any of these addresses.
At that moment, it was almost 7:30 and I was in a bad shape for having walking so much, I was sweat.
I returned to Juernes and enter the place. They had 6 girls seated on table in a big dark place. As none of the girls looked sexy to me, I just left and walked till Lusitania once more.
When I entered the place they only had 3 girls at that moment.
None of my taste neither, so I went out. When I was out a girl came close and start a conversation with me. She was nice and my kind of girl (doll). After 2 minutes I asked her to explain me the rules of the place. She asked for 130 for an hour room included, but when I explained her that I was hardly feeling something with a condom she told me that she wouldn’t do it. She tried to convince me to go touching my dick (quite hard at that moment), she then proposed me to perform “maybe” a BBBJ but I said no thanks and left. At the same moment arrived a very cute blond girl but I didn’t ask her neither.
I don’t know if I’m having too much imagination, but once a girl tells me NO to BBFS in a casa, I rarely ask a second girl because it could put her in trouble if she tells me YES as all the other girls would know she practices BBFS.
I walked till La Hoja again even if I didn’t like the outside, but it was still close.
It was then 8 pm and I had no solution.
Looking at my Palm, I found the direction of Victor (Carrera 48 72-93) where I had had a girl several months ago. As it was not very far, I walked till there.
When I arrived in that old house, they presented me 8 girls, 2 doable.
I asked to talk with one of the doable, a thin nice girl, but when she sat there was no feeling between us, she asked for 140 K for an hour plus the motel but she was kind of shy and would not explain her service. So I even didn’t ask for BBFS and said no thanks. After that I asked if I could talk to the other slim girl, but they presented me another girl that was not in the first presentation.
As she looked ok to me, we sat together and start to talk.
She looked better that the first one but nothing special good or bad neither.
I asked her how much she would charge and she asked for 140 K for 2 hours plus the motel.
That was more reasonable, and as her general attitude was ok I explained her that I hardly feel anything with condom and that I’d like to know if she could do something for me. The answer came immediately : NO.
That was the end of it. I stood up and left the place. Outside, there was a Taxi talking with Victor, I got in the Taxi and asked him if he would know any other place with girls except the one I had already visited. He proposed me to go to the apartment of a girl he knew not very far.
So, there we go and arrived to a house. The Taxi man called the girl and she is obviously not the kind of girl I’m looking for (tall and fatty), but she is nice and have a good conversation and look pleasant. So why not ? I asked her how much she would charge and she told me 150 for 2 to 3 hours. I then explained her my problem with condoms and she stared at me for a good minute before telling me that yes but not very long.
She then walked back to her house, got her things and we went to the Sahara Motel that was near by. I paid the Taxi and we got in the room.
Curiously, her behaviour changed once in the room. She was no more leading the relation but put her on a more passive behaviour. She then went to the bathroom and washed her pussy. I asked her to have a shower with me, but she told me no !!!
Then, I realised that the shower only had cold water. So I quickly showered and then went to the bed where Luz Marina (that’s the name she gave me) was waiting for me with a towel on her.
We ordered a beer for her and a bottle of water for me and start our new relation.
She told me that if I came it would end her service. I told her that the agreement was 2 to 3 hours and that I would probably come twice. After 5 minutes she agreed with that after I told her that it was still time to stop everything and go back to her home.
I decided to start with my favourite DATY and she left me do it, moving her pussy nicely, but it was clear that she was not enjoying it. After a few minutes, I turned to enter in 69, but she asked me to go on my back and she went on me. At that moment, I had her pussy on my mouth and was licking very strongly. She then started the Blow job, but I realised that she had covered me !!! I was a little bit mad, but I had to recognise that she was sucking as hell !!! So I left her suck me covered. As she told me after, all depends on what you do with the tongue, and yes, she knew what to do with her tongue on my dick.
Meanwhile, I was still licking her pussy and I even put half a finger in her ass.
But she was sucking me so strong that I finally came. I had difficulties to get back the control of my dick as she wanted to milk me dry.
We then had a rest, she watched a TV novella and we also speak a little bit.
After 30 minutes, I was back to business again. She helped me with a HJ and then she told me that I had to fuck her first covered and that if I had a problem we would see.
Unfortunately for me, her pussy was not as good as her mouth, and after 15 minutes of hard fucking Cow girl, Missionary, doggy, I was loosing stiffness. She then decided to blow me again, but she did it so hard that it became even painful.
I stopped her after a while and asked to return doggy. 5 minutes later, she was so dry that it was hard to fuck. Then I took the condom out and that time entered bareback into her pussy.
That was really good! She got immediately wet again and I recover all the wonderful feelings of a BBFS.
We did it for no more than 5 minutes after what I got my second climax of the day (yes, out of her, of course!).
We then washed again, called the Taxi, paid the Motel (30 K for the room, the beer and the water), got dressed and left.
I have different feelings;
1st, She sucks like Hell, I mean she is on my top 5 best blower ever.
2nd, Her behaviour once in the room was very different (shy) than out of the room
3rd, She really needs to lose weight and she told me that she plans to have a surgery for that.
I don’t think I would repeat her, but if a tall fatty that sucks like hell interest you, you may find her at Victor’s place.
Just ask for Luz Marina (a girl from Valledupar).
Cheers
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Hi Winner 71
Guess what ? if you look to the last 5 pages of the Barranquilla reports you wont find one single mongering report.
The addresses I had came from some very old report of that thread.
I’d be glad and very grateful if you could publish some mongering report of the Murillo’s places.
One thing remains a mystery to me : Don’t they have casas open in the afternoon in Barranquilla ?
Where do you have to go if you want some action in the afternoon ?
As for the experience, no, I haven’t learned anything. The Colombian forum already had a discussion about how to act with girls when you want something special, and if I remember well, the conclusion was : everyone has his own technique.
I just don’t like to argue in the room and rather come to an agreement before getting with the girl. From time to time, I have a bad experience, but I think that every regular monger experience some bad experiences from time to time.
I have made a mistake choosing that girl, who acted differently before and after getting in the room, but, at the end, she respect the contract and I had BBFS.
If you read my posts in the Colombian and Ecuadorian forums, you’ll see that my technique doesn’t work that bad for me and that I regularly find girls that would practice BBFS with me.
Of course, as you wrote, I’d rather have a very good service for less money, but you can’t just ignore the psychological side of mongering.
I need to feel good and attracted by the girl, but I also want to be sure that I will have what I want, and as I wrote a few lines before, I don’t like to discuss service in the room. It’s a failure if you want, but this is how I’m made.
I’d be glad to invite you to a beer for my next trip to Barranquilla if you’re there and I’ll certainly go to Murillo if I can manage to be free that night.
I’ll certainly post my experience in the forum (good or bad).
Cheers
A few notes...
1) 140k-150k... geez. why would you pay 140k-150k and settle for a fatty (dog) + 30k for the room when you can go at it with a 10 in Murrillo for 25k +5k for the room?
2) Why are you going out at 7:30pm. Do you really expect any gals to be there. 11pm is a good time to try these places.
3) Have you learned from this experience how foolish it is to talk BB beofre going into the room. The gal sucked you off with a condom on after you agreed, no condom... and you still paid her 150k. You could have gotten a complete 10 for 25k pesos... forget talking about bareback and sweet talk her once you are in the room. If you can't convince her to do it for free, 5-10k pesos will do the trick.
4) You must have been sweating like a dog walking from place to place.. and at 7:30pm. Next time, take a cab to Murillo, walk into 1 place, find your perfect 10, sweet talk her, buy her a beer for 2k pesos, make her seem like she is an angel. LEt her talk you into taking you into the back room, pay your 25k pesos. You start playing with her and get her all hot and heavy and then try to enter without a condom or let her start sucking you and if she puts it in, go about 15 seconds and yank it off and tell her your problem. She'll agree to let you go BB... it may take 10k pesos, but she'll agree. If she doesn't, what do you lose? a whopping 25k pesos? At least you will actually enjoy your time for an hour flirting with her, playing with her etc. As opposed to this, walk from place to place to place like you are on a mission and everyone knows it and they know they can charge anything they want and no one wants to give in because they don't want to be known as the desperate one that fucked the freak. Thus you end up getting what you want eventually with the barrio dog and paying 150k +30k pesos for it.
Was it worth it? Or would you have preferred to knock down 4 beers and your perfect 10 in Murillo knock down 4 beers and she dances on your dick and sucks face with you for an hour before you go do the deed for 25k +5k for the room and maybe 10k for bareback... and I say maybe because I have just never had a gal say no before. It's your method that is killing you. You have to make them want you. You have to come across as that cool cat that everyone wants to fuck. Hell, it's your money and becasue of your method the gals are running away from you.
... you are on a mission and everyone knows it and they know they can charge anything they want and no one wants to give in because they don't want to be known as the desperate one that fucked the freak. Thus you end up getting what you want eventually with the barrio dog and paying 150k +30k pesos for it ...
Hey Winner, this comment had me laughing with tears.
I'd like to say though, not everyone can charm the pros.
Some guys can go into a place, meet the working chicas, bond with one and have a great time, GFE, and leave the other chicas wanting.
I'd say actually, most guys DON'T have this ability, especially with lack of spanish skills.
Even with spanish skills, most guys don't have the ability to really charm the chicas.
Charming the chicas with your wallet is one thing, having them dig you for real is another.
Therefore, negotiating in advance for what you want, for some guys (most) is required.
I believe you most likely have an easy, romantic, cool (as in chevere) manner about you, and for you it comes easy.
For most guys, it just ain't that easy.
I've taken amigos on mongering trips, and I've learned that a lot of times it is best to negotiate up front.
I really enjoy the shmoozing aspect of mongering and charming the chicas and just letting the love-making flow, but a lot of guys like to have it all negotiated out in advance.
Suerte amigos!
This is where we differ... I prefer a perfect 10, pay a fair price, and look for a GFE. You prefer to forgo the looks, pay a high price, and don't do anything to create the rapport to warrant a GFE... you are looking for 1 thing and 1 thing only... BB expereince.
Try out new ways, maybe they won't work for you and maybe getting in the room with a perfect 10 and for cheap means nothing to you. Personally, I can;t even get it up for a gal that is a 8 or lower in the looks department by my standards. Condom or no condom is irrelevant if I'm not going to be turned on regardless.
Sure, I'd be more than happy to hit the Murrillo bars with you one night, assuming my gf gives me a hall-pass. They are only open at night (close around 1am)
Hi Winner 71
Guess what ? if you look to the last 5 pages of the Barranquilla reports you wont find one single mongering report.
The addresses I had came from some very old report of that thread.
I’d be glad and very grateful if you could publish some mongering report of the Murillo’s places.
One thing remains a mystery to me : Don’t they have casas open in the afternoon in Barranquilla ?
Where do you have to go if you want some action in the afternoon ?
As for the experience, no, I haven’t learned anything. The Colombian forum already had a discussion about how to act with girls when you want something special, and if I remember well, the conclusion was : everyone has his own technique.
I just don’t like to argue in the room and rather come to an agreement before getting with the girl. From time to time, I have a bad experience, but I think that every regular monger experience some bad experiences from time to time.
I have made a mistake choosing that girl, who acted differently before and after getting in the room, but, at the end, she respect the contract and I had BBFS.
If you read my posts in the Colombian and Ecuadorian forums, you’ll see that my technique doesn’t work that bad for me and that I regularly find girls that would practice BBFS with me.
Of course, as you wrote, I’d rather have a very good service for less money, but you can’t just ignore the psychological side of mongering.
I need to feel good and attracted by the girl, but I also want to be sure that I will have what I want, and as I wrote a few lines before, I don’t like to discuss service in the room. It’s a failure if you want, but this is how I’m made.
I’d be glad to invite you to a beer for my next trip to Barranquilla if you’re there and I’ll certainly go to Murillo if I can manage to be free that night.
I’ll certainly post my experience in the forum (good or bad).
Cheers
I learned everything I know from the maestro. :-)
I probably do take for granted the little things as well... i.e. everything from speaking spanish, to living there for numerous months to really understand their culture and what makes these chicas tick. Both pros and non-pros.
I'll be honest, I'm not the best looking page in the book and I certainly don't dress real well. Not a slob, but by no means GQ material.
Maybe it is just natural... but the little stuff really does work... I.e. meet a gal, invite her over for dinner, when she arrives have 1 rose ready for her and have a cheap spaghetti meal ready for her maybe some candles and the lights off in the room where you eat if you have a room that is really cool.
This just melts them as no one ever does this for them... and best part, sure you can try to get laid. But if you don't, and she sticks around for a few hours and you laugh and have fun, when she leaves she is going to have stars in her eyes and every time you see her from now on you will get the lovemaking session of your life. Why? Because you did something no other person in the male race has ever done before in her entire life. Treated her like an absolute princess and didn't even attempt to get into her panties... though she may have even wanted you to. Regardless, by not doing so, melts them for life.
It's the little things and knowledge on how to make them crave me that I guess really sets those that get it easy apart from those that really have to work it or pay a bundle.
Hey Winner, this comment had me laughing with tears.
I'd like to say though, not everyone can charm the pros.
Some guys can go into a place, meet the working chicas, bond with one and have a great time, GFE, and leave the other chicas wanting.
I'd say actually, most guys DON'T have this ability, especially with lack of spanish skills.
Even with spanish skills, most guys don't have the ability to really charm the chicas.
Charming the chicas with your wallet is one thing, having them dig you for real is another.
Therefore, negotiating in advance for what you want, for some guys (most) is required.
I believe you most likely have an easy, romantic, cool (as in chevere) manner about you, and for you it comes easy.
For most guys, it just ain't that easy.
I've taken amigos on mongering trips, and I've learned that a lot of times it is best to negotiate up front.
I really enjoy the shmoozing aspect of mongering and charming the chicas and just letting the love-making flow, but a lot of guys like to have it all negotiated out in advance.
Suerte amigos!
... I probably do take for granted the little things as well... i.e. everything from speaking spanish, to living there for numerous months to really understand their culture and what makes these chicas tick. Both pros and non-pros.
I'll be honest, I'm not the best looking page in the book and I certainly don't dress real well. Not a slob, but by no means GQ material.
Maybe it is just natural... but the little stuff really does work...
BINGO amigo!!
Some guys use their "GQ" style, some their wallet, and others a bit of both.
Truthfully though, it's the guys that just know how to make the chicas feel comfortable and appreciated, and make them laugh that trully win over the chica.
To each their own though. Every guy uses what skill / $$ he's got to mingle with the chicas.
You're lucky to have the natural skill and the GFE just comes easy. :)
I learned a lot actually from hanging with Robert from the Medellin Castillo, years before the Mansion / Castillo was even a thought.
Suerte amigos!!
Member #3435
09-03-07, 19:36
First test at posting a foto.
BAQ regular chica I met in 2005.
Ted Nugent
09-18-07, 18:14
I just found this site, and I have to say that I am impressed.
It seems that the Barranquilla forum is the "ugly duckling" compared to the forums for the other Colombian cities, and that is predictable. Colombia does not get the amount of tourism that some other Latin American countries get, and Barranquilla gets the least tourism of the five major Colombian cities. Because of Barranquilla's lack of tourism, it is not surprising that the P4P scene is not as developed as in Medellin, Cartagena, Cali, etc.
I have never been to a Colombian city that I didn't like, and Barranquilla is no exception. Barranquilla has its advantages and disadvantages. Barranquilla's biggest advantage is that there aren't many foreigners there. Likewise, Barranquilla's biggest disadvantage is that there aren't many foreigners there.
Colombians view women as falling into one of three categories:
1. Prostitutes
2. Normal women
3. "Prepagos"
"Prepagos" are women who have sex with men of their choice, at a time of their choice and at a price of their choice - nobody makes their choices for them. By contrast, women that work at Lusitania or other such places are prostitutes.
If you want prostitutes, do not go to Barranquilla. If you want prostitutes, go to Medellin. Cali is also good too, but I am not a fan of Cartagena for long stays.
Can you get prostitutes in Barranquilla? Of course. However, there is really only one quality location - Lusitania. Even at Lusitania, however, the women do not compare to Loutron (in Medellin) or Flores Frescas (in Cali). If you ever bump into the women from Lusitania during the day when you are not drunk, you will see what I mean. The lighting in Lusitania is very flattering, and the women have a stylist that prepares their hair and makeup for them in the evenings.
Please note that the price in Lusitania is 130K Colombian pesos per hour - 100K to the girl, 30K for the room. Do not pay more. Likewise, the girls are not permitted to accept less on the premises. If you invite one to your hotel or apartment for an afternoon, they may charge less.
At Lusitania, the best time to arrive is at about 10 PM. Get a half-bottle of Ron Medellin. The Coca-Cola for mixer, limes and ice service are free. If you buy individual drinks or beers, you will rack up quite a tab - especially when a girl joins you at the table. If you spend some time flirting and joking with a girl while drinking the Ron Medellin, your experience in the private room later will be much better. The waiter gets a 10% tip - no more, no less.
Are there other places? Of course. Zona Rosa is usually a waste of time. Juernes is always a waste of time.
Then there is the Avenida Murillo. I do not recommend these locations for most Gringos. Have I gone? Yes. Should I have gone? Probably not. The area is dangerous, and generally the girls are not attractive. However, there are many locations in that area and all of them are economical options. Sometimes you can find a semi-cute girl, but she likely will be a little rough around the edges.
Avoid a guy named Victor that runs a casa.
The best option in Barranquilla are the Prepagos. However, you often will need good Spanish or a long stay to develop a sufficient network. Alternatively, you can join Amigos.com or Cybercupido.com or LatinAmericanCupid.com or Match.com En Español prior to traveling. Some of the girls on the sites are Prepagos. Also, many of the girls in marriage agencies are Prepagos - despite the claims of agency owners. Specific taxi drivers outside of luxury hotels can also make introductions, but I usually cannot tolerate the high-pressure hustling and general sleaziness of most taxi drivers. Some dance clubs - particularly Frogg Leggs - also are known to attract Prepagos on a regular basis.
Unless the Barranquillera is unusually attractive or you are an unusually unattractive Gringo, 100K Colombian pesos is sufficient for at least a couple of hours.
I have provided my honest opinion. If your honest opinion differs, then say so. If we all agreed on the same horse, then we wouldn't have to race 'em.
I hope this info is of some help to first-timers in Barranquilla. It would be of great help to all of us if we began to collect a list of women and gay men that coordinate Prepago rings in Barranquilla.
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Good summary.
You gave a price guideline of 100k for a prepago in Barranquilla. Really, this is just a reflection of what social level you're moving in. Or more correctly, the social level that your contact picks his or her prepagos from.
Prepagos are available at all prices. From 40k or less at the low end, up to insanely expensive prices at the high end.
If you considered it on a distribution curve, I do agree that 100k would be about the median price.
It would be of great help to all of us if we began to collect a list of women and gay men that coordinate Prepago rings in Barranquilla.Heck, there should be a thread dedicated to prepago leads for all cities. I spend too much time screening for hot young thin good looking pros. And the websites all engage in false advertising.
How do I call to connect with model types babes in Bogota, Medellin, Cali, and Barranquilla?
Macho Grande
09-30-07, 02:56
I’ll soon be traveling to Barranquilla for the first time on mostly business.
I’m intrigued by the Prepagos, My question is how do I know a girl is a pregago and how do she know what I’m willing to pay for her services. Please help a newbie from Orlando.
Thx in advance v
Macho Grande
09-30-07, 02:58
I’ll soon be traveling to Barranquilla for the first time on mostly business.
I’m intrigued by the Prepagos, My question is how do I know a girl is a pregago and how do she know what I’m willing to pay for her services. Please help a newbie from Orlando.
Btw I can speak fluent Spanish
Thxs in advance v
I arrived at Barranquilla around 12pm, had lunch and went to a professional meeting. I had to attend a special event at 6pm and I could escape around 8pm.
I then went to my hotel and start to search for club's addresses in Barranquilla.
I had read several post about the Murillo’s club and finally found one speaking about Murillo’s and 21.
I went out of my hotel and jumped in the first taxi. It was 10:45pm. It took 20 minutes to get there (8k). Murillo (Calle 45) with Carrera 21 is in the south, poor area of the city.
I had to cross all the city to get there.
When I arrived, I noticed a kind of zona rosa, but there was no hooker outside. I walked in a place (Carrera 21), push the door, and there were just. No one inside. I tried the second bar, they had 5 guys seated, and no one else.
I then went to Murillo and try another bar where there were a lot of. Normal people having fun in a very loud music.
I asked a taxi where the clubs or bars with girls were and he told me that there were none at that place and that I had to go till Carrera 27th to found clubs. He added that it was very risky to walk till there. As he tried to help me I said ok, let’s go. He drove me there and pointed out 3 clubs.
I entered the first one and could not stand the music. Let’s say that it was just unbearable to me, even if the locals seemed totally used to that. I’m sure their ears must be severely damaged as the noise was close from what a jet's reactor would produce. Even if I didn’t stay more than 30 seconds, I had time to look at the girls and I have seen mostly fatties or very fat girls.
The second door, at less than 10 meters (11 yards) was just the same: Fatties and very loud music. I didn’t remain more than 30 seconds neither.
I then walked till the third club at the opposite side of the road.
I don’t know if the music was not so loud or if I was getting used to that, but when I entered the place, (after a physical check) I could stand better the music even if from time to time I had to put a finger in each ear to relieve the pain.
When I got in that place, I noticed a small doll outside. She had a real nice body, but her teeth were just not well aligned. That is strange in Colombia where most people have brackets on their teeth. After 2 minutes I saw an even better girl, not so tiny, but very slim. Unfortunately, she was at that moment with another guy. When the bar attender came, I asked for a bottle of water (he read on my lips) but he made me understand that he had no water.
We had to go outside to be able to talk. He explained me that he had no water but beer and soda. I explained him that I only drink water. Then the doll entered the conversation and told the guy to send one of the guys outside to buy a bottle of water at the shop around the corner. That’s what he did and I had my bottle in less than 5 minutes.
I took advantage to start a small conversation with the doll. I asked her how could she stand such a tremendous noise and how was she doing to speak with the customers.
Of course, she had no choice and it is completely impossible to have a conversation in the bar. I asked her what were the rules of the place and she told me 30K for 30 minutes room included.
I then had my water and I decided to try to get in the place again to see if I could stand that noise.
We both got in and I chose a table not in front of the loud speakers. On the stage, a girl was ending her strip show. My tall skinny beauty was still with her customer, so I concentrate on the doll, trying to stand the pain in the ears. At several moments, I had to protect my ears with my fingers. .
I took my blue pill and check the time as these pills are supposed to act in 15/20 minutes.
When the 15 minutes had gone by, I said let’s go to the doll, and we took the stairs to go to the rooms. When I entered the place, I saw a real bad place, bad bed, dirty sheets, condom on the ground, . The doll told me that there is a much better motel at 50 meters. I said let’s go.
The price I had paid (30K) was converted to the exit’s fine and I wait for the doll outside.
At that moment, the slim girl came out of the bar with an other girl. They were alone. But as I had said ok to the doll I didn’t try to talk to her even if we were staring at each other. Finally, the doll came out of the bar and we start to walk. At that moment, a taxi arrived and stopped in front of us. I passed behind him and crossed the road. The doll followed me, but the taxi just made a u-turn and came back in front of us! He then stepped out of his car and starts to talk with a loud voice to the doll. I asked him if there was a problem and he told me with anger that the doll was his wife! I had never been into such a situation before and I didn’t know what to do, but the doll told him to leave us alone and that I had paid the bar fine, so that everything was ok. She then turned around the guy and walked straight till the motel. I really didn’t know what to do. I wanted to try that doll, but that guy was really mad. The doll called me and told me not to pay care and to follow her. I did as she said. The taxi drove back and park in front of the motel. Once again, I was thinking about what to do? But once again, the doll told me not to pay care and to follow her. I entered the Motel and paid 8K for the room plus the condom. I asked her who was that guy and she said that he was an old boyfriend. She then told me that I had to pay her. She asked for 30K and I told her that the price couldn’t be the same as in the bar because 30K there was included the room. She said ok for 25, and I promised her 30 if she would behave well.
We went upstairs and the doll chooses a room. A bed with a clean sheet on it, a TV set with porn, a mirror not well situated, a shower with cold water, a WC, a chair, a fan and that was all. The floor was not clean as I had my barefoot full of dust at my first step.
But at last we were in the room and we got naked. The doll went to the bathroom to wash her and she came with me on the bed after I gave her the money.
She started with a BBBJ, too light for me, but nice and I let her play like that for 5 good minutes. Then I gave her a strong DATY, but she asked me to go easy.
She didn’t want me to play with her ass as she had told me before that she wouldn’t perform anal. We then went to 69 and I had a very good time in that position, but then, I wanted to go intercourse. I put her on her back and passed to missionary, but she told me that I had to be covered. I asked her if a tip could made her go BBFS, but no, she doesn’t know me and I don’t know her and we have to take care of our health, ... The classical talk. I insisted a little bit but she was firm, so I let her covered me and start in Missionary. Poor girl, I was stiff (thanks to Sidenafil) and was not feeling much. So I did her quite hard. Then rear entrance, then doggy, then 69 again. After that, I put her cow girl, then reverse but still nothing to do to come. Finally, I took the condom out and asked her to perform a BBBJ again. She did, but it was definitely too light for me. I tried to explain her how to do it strongly, but there were no way. I then put her on her back and went to missionary position to rub my dick on her clit. She was afraid but she let me do it. I asked her again and again to let me enter BB and she finally agreed for 20K. When I entered her she called the protection of the virgin Maria !!!
I was so excited that I came in less than 3 minutes. I covered her with my milk. She then showered herself and we put our clothes on and I was lucky enough to convince her for a picture (with no face).
She then gave me her cell number (PM if interested) and gave me her name : Stefany I paid her 50 for everything and she looked pleased with that.
Now, we had the external problem still there. The taxi had waited outside for us.
When we were going down the stairs of the motel, we crossed a friend of her and she asked her to take care of me! She then said good bye and walked straight to the taxi and got in!
When the Taxi driver passed in front of the motel, he stared at me and with his hand made the colt sign as if he would shoot me!
The friend told me that that guy was a crazy macho and asks the Motel guard to call a taxi. I was a little worry that the taxi could be a friend of the Macho and that I could have some serious problem, so I walk with care till this taxi, but the guy had a good face and I got in.
I then gave him my hotel name and I have to say that all the way back, I looked behind to see if a Taxi was following us.
I arrived safely to my hotel.
Cheers
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Yep... Murillo con 27 that's the place to go. As for the music... it's loud to you, but they love it. Hell, I love it. That's one of the things I love about Barranquilla... the music, la rumba, the attitutude. Just like the chica and her "boyfriend taxista". You were scared shitless, to them this is normal. Also, you mentioned the fatties. This is where you really have to look for the diamond in the rough. There are some beauties, but you have to search. But for 2k pesos/beer, awesome music, and great shows with no cover, you can't beat it... unless of course the music annoys you. As for paying the bar-fine... she must have been done for the night. There are no bar-fines as far as I know. So she made what you paid her, plus that 30k. No big deal, you'll know for next time. FWIW, it's happened to me like that as well. We live and learn.
Lastly... see what I mean about not negotiating BB in advance? A little bit of chemistry in the room and a small tip will almost always work for you, at least outside of Medellin.
I arrived at Barranquilla around 12pm, had lunch and went to a professional meeting. I had to attend a special event at 6pm and I could escape around 8pm.
I then went to my hotel and start to search for club's addresses in Barranquilla.
I had read several post about the Murillo’s club and finally found one speaking about Murillo’s and 21.
I went out of my hotel and jumped in the first taxi. It was 10:45pm. It took 20 minutes to get there (8k). Murillo (Calle 45) with Carrera 21 is in the south, poor area of the city.
I had to cross all the city to get there.
When I arrived, I noticed a kind of zona rosa, but there was no hooker outside. I walked in a place (Carrera 21), push the door, and there were just. No one inside. I tried the second bar, they had 5 guys seated, and no one else.
I then went to Murillo and try another bar where there were a lot of. Normal people having fun in a very loud music.
I asked a taxi where the clubs or bars with girls were and he told me that there were none at that place and that I had to go till Carrera 27th to found clubs. He added that it was very risky to walk till there. As he tried to help me I said ok, let’s go. He drove me there and pointed out 3 clubs.
I entered the first one and could not stand the music. Let’s say that it was just unbearable to me, even if the locals seemed totally used to that. I’m sure their ears must be severely damaged as the noise was close from what a jet's reactor would produce. Even if I didn’t stay more than 30 seconds, I had time to look at the girls and I have seen mostly fatties or very fat girls.
The second door, at less than 10 meters (11 yards) was just the same: Fatties and very loud music. I didn’t remain more than 30 seconds neither.
I then walked till the third club at the opposite side of the road.
I don’t know if the music was not so loud or if I was getting used to that, but when I entered the place, (after a physical check) I could stand better the music even if from time to time I had to put a finger in each ear to relieve the pain.
When I got in that place, I noticed a small doll outside. She had a real nice body, but her teeth were just not well aligned. That is strange in Colombia where most people have brackets on their teeth. After 2 minutes I saw an even better girl, not so tiny, but very slim. Unfortunately, she was at that moment with another guy. When the bar attender came, I asked for a bottle of water (he read on my lips) but he made me understand that he had no water.
We had to go outside to be able to talk. He explained me that he had no water but beer and soda. I explained him that I only drink water. Then the doll entered the conversation and told the guy to send one of the guys outside to buy a bottle of water at the shop around the corner. That’s what he did and I had my bottle in less than 5 minutes.
I took advantage to start a small conversation with the doll. I asked her how could she stand such a tremendous noise and how was she doing to speak with the customers.
Of course, she had no choice and it is completely impossible to have a conversation in the bar. I asked her what were the rules of the place and she told me 30K for 30 minutes room included.
I then had my water and I decided to try to get in the place again to see if I could stand that noise.
We both got in and I chose a table not in front of the loud speakers. On the stage, a girl was ending her strip show. My tall skinny beauty was still with her customer, so I concentrate on the doll, trying to stand the pain in the ears. At several moments, I had to protect my ears with my fingers. .
I took my blue pill and check the time as these pills are supposed to act in 15/20 minutes.
When the 15 minutes had gone by, I said let’s go to the doll, and we took the stairs to go to the rooms. When I entered the place, I saw a real bad place, bad bed, dirty sheets, condom on the ground, . The doll told me that there is a much better motel at 50 meters. I said let’s go.
The price I had paid (30K) was converted to the exit’s fine and I wait for the doll outside.
At that moment, the slim girl came out of the bar with an other girl. They were alone. But as I had said ok to the doll I didn’t try to talk to her even if we were staring at each other. Finally, the doll came out of the bar and we start to walk. At that moment, a taxi arrived and stopped in front of us. I passed behind him and crossed the road. The doll followed me, but the taxi just made a u-turn and came back in front of us! He then stepped out of his car and starts to talk with a loud voice to the doll. I asked him if there was a problem and he told me with anger that the doll was his wife! I had never been into such a situation before and I didn’t know what to do, but the doll told him to leave us alone and that I had paid the bar fine, so that everything was ok. She then turned around the guy and walked straight till the motel. I really didn’t know what to do. I wanted to try that doll, but that guy was really mad. The doll called me and told me not to pay care and to follow her. I did as she said. The taxi drove back and park in front of the motel. Once again, I was thinking about what to do? But once again, the doll told me not to pay care and to follow her. I entered the Motel and paid 8K for the room plus the condom. I asked her who was that guy and she said that he was an old boyfriend. She then told me that I had to pay her. She asked for 30K and I told her that the price couldn’t be the same as in the bar because 30K there was included the room. She said ok for 25, and I promised her 30 if she would behave well.
We went upstairs and the doll chooses a room. A bed with a clean sheet on it, a TV set with porn, a mirror not well situated, a shower with cold water, a WC, a chair, a fan and that was all. The floor was not clean as I had my barefoot full of dust at my first step.
But at last we were in the room and we got naked. The doll went to the bathroom to wash her and she came with me on the bed after I gave her the money.
She started with a BBBJ, too light for me, but nice and I let her play like that for 5 good minutes. Then I gave her a strong DATY, but she asked me to go easy.
She didn’t want me to play with her ass as she had told me before that she wouldn’t perform anal. We then went to 69 and I had a very good time in that position, but then, I wanted to go intercourse. I put her on her back and passed to missionary, but she told me that I had to be covered. I asked her if a tip could made her go BBFS, but no, she doesn’t know me and I don’t know her and we have to take care of our health, ... The classical talk. I insisted a little bit but she was firm, so I let her covered me and start in Missionary. Poor girl, I was stiff (thanks to Sidenafil) and was not feeling much. So I did her quite hard. Then rear entrance, then doggy, then 69 again. After that, I put her cow girl, then reverse but still nothing to do to come. Finally, I took the condom out and asked her to perform a BBBJ again. She did, but it was definitely too light for me. I tried to explain her how to do it strongly, but there were no way. I then put her on her back and went to missionary position to rub my dick on her clit. She was afraid but she let me do it. I asked her again and again to let me enter BB and she finally agreed for 20K. When I entered her she called the protection of the virgin Maria !!!
I was so excited that I came in less than 3 minutes. I covered her with my milk. She then showered herself and we put our clothes on and I was lucky enough to convince her for a picture (with no face).
She then gave me her cell number (PM if interested) and gave me her name : Stefany I paid her 50 for everything and she looked pleased with that.
Now, we had the external problem still there. The taxi had waited outside for us.
When we were going down the stairs of the motel, we crossed a friend of her and she asked her to take care of me! She then said good bye and walked straight to the taxi and got in!
When the Taxi driver passed in front of the motel, he stared at me and with his hand made the colt sign as if he would shoot me!
The friend told me that that guy was a crazy macho and asks the Motel guard to call a taxi. I was a little worry that the taxi could be a friend of the Macho and that I could have some serious problem, so I walk with care till this taxi, but the guy had a good face and I got in.
I then gave him my hotel name and I have to say that all the way back, I looked behind to see if a Taxi was following us.
I arrived safely to my hotel.
Cheers
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I went with her to their classes in English, very beautiful girls in school.
She is taking English classes, and her daughter alike, we must do our social service! Right Bruce?
My girl # 4
The girl off Cali, the # 4 novia who lives in Bogota, was sick, did not want to go to island Palma she flake on me, so I talk to novia # 3 that if wanted to go? (Guess? ).
She said yes, I went.
I was at the Hotel Versalles, 90. 000. 00 cop a nite.
Good hotel, chica friendly, wireless internet at the lobby, Breakfast Included.
From Barranquilla to Cartagena I took a taxi service http://www.transportesmarsolsa.com/home. Htm
25, 000. 00 cop pick you up at the hotel and drop you at any place you need to go in Barranquilla.
The island is quiet, we were 41 guests, couples from Chile, cachacos (Bogota) a couple of NY and another from England.
Food was good, the liquor badIt seems that filled bottles over and over again with cheap liquor.
You can see that the seal of the screw cap is old, And the bottles are always Full room's:
This room was not what I expected, rather look's like a 3-star hotel.
Palm Island hotel Decameron.
Www. Decameron.com
3 people
3 nights
$ 238 usd
We Return to Cartagena, went to see bruce and his new apartment, I was with novia# 3 and the daughter of her.
That evening, I return to Bogota for Business.
No longer is my girlfriend # 3, it came very complicated, so let her go,
More With the forthcoming report.
A thousand apologies for my English, and my bad spelling. I try to do the best I can, my first language is Spanish, then Mayan and English, so I apologize,
Kukulkan
More of isla Palma
Look's like No safety standards for travel on the plane, this beautiful woman was let open the cockpit door. Crew does not matter in flight.
The chick from the rigth.
She is the teacher, later that day we went to small bar cal mama bahama, the teacher and my ex, loud music, i only take water, and they drank beer,
Just under 40,000.00 cop for 3 hours of fun, dancing, and a lot of rub Among the former teacher and my girlfriend and I.
Is there places like Electra (in Cartagena), or what Giro Matto used to be (in Cartagena), basically a late night (past 3AM) after hours clubs where one can find working girls partying or visiting tourist girls looking to make a buck? - thanks.
I am in Baq at the moment and wondered if anybody has the address of Fredies Disco as I would like to give it a try
Salsero Loco
12-03-07, 04:43
Just got back from about a week in 'quilla. Decided to spend all my time with a beautiful 22-year-old I met on Cybercupido and had been talking to on messenger from the states for a few weeks leading up to the trip. She is a real beauty, petite with large natural breasts-- my favorite combo!
Met me at the airport with a few friends, a bit annoying but understandable since she had never met me in person before and was a bit anxious. Took the friends out to lunch and for some drinks and they realized I was a good guy and left us alone after a few hours.
The girl, let's call her Maria, stayed with me the rest of the day and we ended up sleeping together that night, though I did not press for sex right away. She is a 100% non-pro, nice girl and I didn't want to be too aggressive, which I think is always a good move with the non-pros. In my experience, you still never go more than 3-4 dates before the sex comes. Wish that were so in the states...
Anyway, night two we fool around some more but no sex still. Night three it is obviously going to happen, but she stops me short before we do the deed and confides in me that she is a virgin!!! Holy shit! I had never deflowered a virgin and frankly at 38 I never thought I would have the opportunity. Especially in Colombia. A 22-year-old virgin in Colombia? I'd have been surprised to find an 18-year-old virgin. Some of you are probably thinking that she was bullshitting me, but I am 99% sure that she was not, although there was no blood. Again, not much experience in this area....
Anyway, over the rest of the week, I am schooling Maria in the ways of love, and she steadily gets more relaxed and into it. I even gave her her first orgasm she says. After which she really got more into the sex! Too bad I didn't have a few more weeks with which to turn her into a real porn star!
Now I am back in the states and she is emailing me every five minutes and telling me how much she misses me and wants to be with me, etc. etc. Argh... I do like her a lot, but she is ready to get married after a week. This is why they say you don't pay prostitutes for sex, you pay them to go away afterwards.
Besides the girl, I have to say Baranquilla is not the most exciting city in Colombia, putting it generously. The people are really nice, none of the annoying shit you get from the touts in Cartagena, but there isn't fuck all to do in the city during the day. The pace of life is also so incredibly slow on the coast it gets on my east coast nerves, but that's my problem.
Hi There,
Just like to add my voice to the general approval of Barrenquilla. I haven't been here since 1998 but the place has improved out of site and the girls wow just as nine years ago you get a broken neck from the many 9+ girls in the shopping centres etc. I checked out the girl scene last week and can only say that the advice and reports on the various bars has been right on the money. I was amazed at the quality of the girls in Lusatania and not disappointed with Freddies or Juernes. I was secretly hoping to bump into a great girl I knew from 1998 called Alexandria who worked in the original Zona Rosa but I guess that was to much to expect. Still a good place to find girls you would normally only see in magazines. I have another 2-3 weeks here so will write of any exceptional places I discover. Thanks to the previous reports on this site I didn't waste anytime hitting the right spots.
Member #4167
12-11-07, 16:03
Besides the girl, I have to say Baranquilla is not the most exciting city in Colombia, putting it generously. The people are really nice, none of the annoying shit you get from the touts in Cartagena, but there isn't fuck all to do in the city during the day. The pace of life is also so incredibly slow on the coast it gets on my east coast nerves, but that's my problem.Thank You Salsero for the Killa Report, I have been a big fan of your exploits, and have always enjoyed reading your posts.
I am contemplating my first trip to Killa and I have several questions for you.
Would you say the women are pretty EZ to meet and mate?
Could you see a 18-25yo hottie and, if she is single, get to bed her down after only a few dates ?
How about the safety? Any chance I could be kidnapped?
Thanks
Your Fan, Water Boy
Salsero Loco
12-16-07, 04:12
Hey Water boy,
Thanks for the post. I met my Baranquilla girl on the 'net before going, and don't have a lot of experiencing meeting girls on the street. From everything I've heard and read from others though, and from the vibe I've gotten from girls on the street, I would say a big yes. That is, yes they are pretty EZ to meet, and yes you should be able to shag within a few dates. Definitely agree with another poster that making no effort at sex on the first date can reap benefits down the road.
The only danger I know of on Baranquilla would be your general urban crime if you are hanging out in a bad neighborhood at night, that sort of thing.
Not sure how much time you were planning to spend there, but despite my good experience I would still take Medellin over quilla or any other Colombian city. Hands down.
Best of luck
SL
Thank You Salsero for the Killa Report, I have been a big fan of your exploits, and have always enjoyed reading your posts.
I am contemplating my first trip to Killa and I have several questions for you.
Would you say the women are pretty EZ to meet and mate?
Could you see a 18-25yo hottie and, if she is single, get to bed her down after only a few dates ?
How about the safety? Any chance I could be kidnapped?
Thanks
Your Fan, Water Boy
Hola Dudes,
Kinda short notice, but I'm thinking about checking out Barranquilla during Carnivale in February. Is it going to be a challenge to either rent an apt or hotel for 2 weeks?
This will be my first time to BAQ. Send me a PM if there's anyone who will be in town (tentatively from Feb 1st-16th) around the same time as I.
Thanks,
Judd
Gary Groundwork
12-24-07, 00:29
Are there any establishments in Barranquilla open during the day with top quality pussy?
Gracias
I recently spent 24 hrs. in this city. Barranquilla must be the ugliest city with the least attractions of any in Colombia. The Parque Bolivar is a concrete pad with no shade, although there is a new park being constructed a block away. I know there are tons of hot chicas here, but i found my head turning to look at chicas on the street a lot less here than in Medellín.
I stayed at the Hotel Colonial In at Calle 42 43-131. Rooms are 25,000 without AC or 35,000 with AC. The reception told me there was no charge to bring in a chica assuming she didn't stay the whole night.
There are tons of "tabernas" in this area, which appear to be discotecas from the outside. i never asked anyone directly what they were, but my impression is that they're couples-only establishments where they can drink, dance, and go to a room in the back if they so chose. Perhaps the Barranquilla experts can address this.
Judging by reports on this site, the casas seemed to be out of my price range. I passed by the area of Avenida Murillo at Calle 27 a few times during the day. None of the 5 "night clubs" i noticed were open nor did there appear to be working chicas anywhere.
The only night club i found open during the day was "La Dorada", which i believe is on Carrera 45 or 46 between Calle 42 or 41, directly across from a service station. There were only 2 chicas, none of which piqued my interest. Aguilas cost 1,600 each.
I returned to Avenida Murillo around 8 pm. I went in 2 clubs and and still found nothing to my liking. The music is loud in these clubs, even by Colombian standards.
I don't think security is a big issue in this area, though my opinion probably counts for little since i've seen few areas in colombia that i thought were overly dangerous. This area is very well lit, partly due to the flood lights from the nearby Vivero supermarket. Also, Avenida Murillo is the main drag in this part of the city- it's not as if you're on a dark side street.
My 3rd stop, on Avenida Murillo directly across from the Vivero supermarket, had a few attractive chicas. After having 18 year old Paola grind in my lap for a few songs, we went upstairs for 35 minutes for the paltry sum of 40,000. including the room. She attributes her Asian features to her Turkish grandparents, which makes sense in a city with a sizeable Middle Eastern population. Paola seemed eager to come to my hotel later, but alas, my time in BAQ was coming to an end...
que chimbita es la vida...
Hoof Hunter
12-27-07, 02:58
Not sure what your reasons were, but you stayed in Centro, a very ugly part of the city and sometimes pretty dangerous. Not too advisable staying down there, esp. when making a judgment about a Colombian city. There's nothing redeeming about staying down there, or even mongering down there, but the lower cost. And in this sense, quality does follows cost, as you found out. Low cost, low quality.
As many people have stated, the area from the airport to Centro is an ugly ride. It's the south of the city. Same can be said for the southside of many larger cities in Colombia. Ever been to south parts of Bogota, Cali, or Cartagena? Everyone sees the ugly ass barrios on the hills in Medellin, but overlook them as well. Once you clear Centro in BAQ, you'll see a much more vibrant, modern and clean city.
Next time, you should go a bit further north, east or west, to get a better sense of the city. Centro sucks ass.
If you're still there, go check out Portales del Prado, Villa Country, or Buena Vista mall, even Calle 72 to get a better sense of the chicas around. Just go to any mall as chicas are doing their holiday shopping, with all the discounts being offered. The universities are out for break, therefore you won't be seeing those chicas out around those areas either. Check out the normal bars on 84, even down further on Murillo. Casa de la Cerveza or Alcatraz.
As it's now the holiday season, you also won't see the best-looking hookers, just the most desperate. The better looking ones have already made their money and are home with their families for the holidays. They'll be back mid-January to gear up for Carnaval.
Even the better normal bars up north will probably be empty until the weekend and NYE. Same can be said in most parts of Colombia during this time.
Those tabernas in Centro are TRUE hole-in-the-walls. (No disrespect to Winner71.) I've driven by them and walked by them, and never had a 2nd thought of stopping in them, and I like hole-in-the-walls. I'm sure that you might find a diamond in the rough every now and then, but when I travel, I have more money than time. In some of those places, I'd wonder if there's even running water, much less a clean sheet to get a bj on. I don't need that added headache.
Take a cab from Centro to Lusitania or Pasarela Show (5.000 peso taxi ride). Pricier, but much better talent. You can even talk down the street from Pasarela to Juernes. These are all night places.
Sorry you had a bad experience. Asi es la vida aveces.
I recently spent 24 hrs. in this city. Barranquilla must be the ugliest city with the least attractions of any in Colombia. The Parque Bolivar is a concrete pad with no shade, although there is a new park being constructed a block away. I know there are tons of hot chicas here, but i found my head turning to look at chicas on the street a lot less here than in Medellín.
I stayed at the Hotel Colonial In at Calle 42 43-131. Rooms are 25,000 without AC or 35,000 with AC. The reception told me there was no charge to bring in a chica assuming she didn't stay the whole night.
There are tons of "tabernas" in this area, which appear to be discotecas from the outside. i never asked anyone directly what they were, but my impression is that they're couples-only establishments where they can drink, dance, and go to a room in the back if they so chose. Perhaps the Barranquilla experts can address this.
Judging by reports on this site, the casas seemed to be out of my price range. I passed by the area of Avenida Murillo at Calle 27 a few times during the day. None of the 5 "night clubs" i noticed were open nor did there appear to be working chicas anywhere.
The only night club i found open during the day was "La Dorada", which i believe is on Carrera 45 or 46 between Calle 42 or 41, directly across from a service station. There were only 2 chicas, none of which piqued my interest. Aguilas cost 1,600 each.
I returned to Avenida Murillo around 8 pm. I went in 2 clubs and and still found nothing to my liking. The music is loud in these clubs, even by Colombian standards.
I don't think security is a big issue in this area, though my opinion probably counts for little since i've seen few areas in colombia that i thought were overly dangerous. This area is very well lit, partly due to the flood lights from the nearby Vivero supermarket. Also, Avenida Murillo is the main drag in this part of the city- it's not as if you're on a dark side street.
My 3rd stop, on Avenida Murillo directly across from the Vivero supermarket, had a few attractive chicas. After having 18 year old Paola grind in my lap for a few songs, we went upstairs for 35 minutes for the paltry sum of 40,000. including the room. She attributes her Asian features to her Turkish grandparents, which makes sense in a city with a sizeable Middle Eastern population. Paola seemed eager to come to my hotel later, but alas, my time in BAQ was coming to an end...
que chimbita es la vida...
Jajaja. Come on now Hoof. Even I don't have the cajones or the desire to hang out in el Centro.
Those tabernas in Centro are TRUE hole-in-the-walls. (No disrespect to Winner71.)
As Hoof has pointed out. You stayed in a very undesirable area. Thus your poor impression of Barranquilla. Though quite frankly, you are correct Barranquilla no es un paradiso.
As for the bars at Murillo y Calle 27, they are open in the evenings. Not daytime (don; t go too late either as they close around 1am on weeknights). If you don't like loud music than you didn't miss anything. I actually flat out love the loud music and wildness that occurs in these places. Don't get me wrong, when I am living in Barranquilla I go about once a month, maybe 2 times in a month maximum. But when I do go, I always have a ball. As for the chicas, you really have to take your time on finding that diamond in the rough.
You can find a lot of those chicas that work in those bars at Casa de Cerveza before they open up. Casa de Cerveza isn't 24 hours a day but I think it closes around 5am and then opens around 10am, so it is pretty much 24 hours a day. Assuming the hours have not changed. I have not been to Casa de Cerveza in over a year.
I recently spent 24 hrs. in this city. Barranquilla must be the ugliest city with the least attractions of any in Colombia. The Parque Bolivar is a concrete pad with no shade, although there is a new park being constructed a block away. I know there are tons of hot chicas here, but i found my head turning to look at chicas on the street a lot less here than in Medellín.
I stayed at the Hotel Colonial In at Calle 42 43-131. Rooms are 25,000 without AC or 35,000 with AC. The reception told me there was no charge to bring in a chica assuming she didn't stay the whole night.
There are tons of "tabernas" in this area, which appear to be discotecas from the outside. i never asked anyone directly what they were, but my impression is that they're couples-only establishments where they can drink, dance, and go to a room in the back if they so chose. Perhaps the Barranquilla experts can address this.
Judging by reports on this site, the casas seemed to be out of my price range. I passed by the area of Avenida Murillo at Calle 27 a few times during the day. None of the 5 "night clubs" i noticed were open nor did there appear to be working chicas anywhere.
The only night club i found open during the day was "La Dorada", which i believe is on Carrera 45 or 46 between Calle 42 or 41, directly across from a service station. There were only 2 chicas, none of which piqued my interest. Aguilas cost 1,600 each.
I returned to Avenida Murillo around 8 pm. I went in 2 clubs and and still found nothing to my liking. The music is loud in these clubs, even by Colombian standards.
I don't think security is a big issue in this area, though my opinion probably counts for little since i've seen few areas in colombia that i thought were overly dangerous. This area is very well lit, partly due to the flood lights from the nearby Vivero supermarket. Also, Avenida Murillo is the main drag in this part of the city- it's not as if you're on a dark side street.
My 3rd stop, on Avenida Murillo directly across from the Vivero supermarket, had a few attractive chicas. After having 18 year old Paola grind in my lap for a few songs, we went upstairs for 35 minutes for the paltry sum of 40,000. including the room. She attributes her Asian features to her Turkish grandparents, which makes sense in a city with a sizeable Middle Eastern population. Paola seemed eager to come to my hotel later, but alas, my time in BAQ was coming to an end...
que chimbita es la vida...
Member #4167
12-29-07, 16:52
That is, yes they are pretty EZ to meet, and yes you should be able to shag within a few dates. Definitely agree with another poster that making no effort at sex on the first date can reap benefits down the road.
Not sure how much time you were planning to spend there, but despite my good experience I would still take Medellin over quilla or any other Colombian city. Hands down.
SLHey SL. thanks for the reply.
I have been critized roundly for this, but: I like to go to places with a beach and touristy stuff to do.
Yeah from what I've read on ISG, killa is pretty much a dump of a town with nothing to do. Even the locals say it has a nasty beach.
But, for now, I am putting my killa trip plans on hold !
Thanks for the reply.
Is the following thread the handy-work of any of you guys?
http://www.youporn.com/watch/79893
The caption for the byte is "stripper barranquillera"
First time post so I'll keep my question short and simple.
Can you please tell me the names, area, and prices of great strip clubs in Baq.
Yes I have read the forum posts, just want to make sure the info is up to date.
Also can you maybe point out any cool places I should check out during my stay at Carnival time.
Thx
As it's now the holiday season, you also won't see the best-looking hookers, just the most desperate. The better looking ones have already made their money and are home with their families for the holidays. They'll be back mid-January to gear up for Carnaval.Hoof,
I always enjoy your reports. Have been to CTG 6 times, never to Baq yet. Please confirm I understood you correctly that February Carnival is a good time to be there.
I am a rather big fan of Cartagena's club Electra and the former Giro Matto. Great options for prepagas should you need them towards the end of the night when regular options ran out. Not a big fan of LDV type places. What is the situation like with prepagas in Baq? Any places similar to the ones mentioned above?
Thanks
Evel Knievel
01-04-08, 06:38
Are there any establishments in Barranquilla open during the day with top quality pussy?
GraciasUnfortunately, no. Even the locations open at night are not up to the standards of Medellin and Cali.
Barranquilla is all about prepagos and novias. If you want *****houses and strip clubs, then try Medellin or Cali.
Hoof Hunter
01-04-08, 06:58
Yeah, there'll be all kinds of people in BAQ for Carnaval, even hookers there to capitalize on the quantity. Most from other cities.
The challenge is finding reasonable lodging. I'm not really worried. It's not very difficult, just frustrating. I've gotten apartments and hotels a week before and during Carnaval at reasonable prices ($50-60/nite) in areas walking distance from much of the festivities. Hot water, a/c, clean, g/f, internet, secure, etc.
I'd posted a pic or two of a chica and her cousin who I did last Carnaval from one of the hooker spots. They were only there in BAQ for a month before headed back to Panama. Both were 8+ on anyone's scale. I still have my friends there talking about them. With Spanish, didn't cost me very much at all for both. TLN for under $100 in total for both. Asi es Colombia.
For the best looking hookers, check out Lusitania. Pricey, but nice lineup of talent. Also check out Pasarela Show. Juernes is also an option during Carnaval, as we found out last year.
The afterhour spot in BAQ is La Arenosa, on Cra 43 near Cll 74. Shady spot, shady characters, shady actions, not for the weak of heart, nor Spanish challenged. I've been there when gunshots rang out outside, but there are hookers/prepagos there, as well as regular couples. I stayed. Some other folks have had issues.
As to normal spots where prepagos may be available, there are normal clubs up north like Seven (up north next to the only bowling alley in BAQ), VC (in Villa Country mall), The Underground (in Hotel Windsor), Barulo, Frogles, etc.
IF your Spanish is up to snuff and you don't mind being in questionable areas, (where no one will help you if trouble popped up because they can't understand you), then check out Casa de la Cerveza on Murillo (approx. calle 20), Alcatraz, Maria Mulata, and the bars down there.
There are more, but this should get you started.
Suerte
Hoof, thanks for your response, my friends and I appreciate it. Looks like we have a conflict with the dates in February (actual carnival), and the dates that will work for all of us are Jan 17-22 (pre-carnavales), these include Sun and Mon. You mentioned in your earlier post best looking hookers and prepagas returning to BAQ mid-Jan, do you think the night life will be good during the week we are planning to go, or is it way better during the actual carnival? Sunday and Monday nights are particulary of concern.
Personally, I prefer to avoid large gatherings on the streets - after seeing all the barrio kids in Cartagena la reinada week.
Hoof Hunter
01-05-08, 05:16
From Monday through most Thursdays, nightlife generally sucks throughout Colombia. BAQ is no different. Cartagena would be a better bet during those days as most of the bars and discos are closed in BAQ, leaving you few choices. Friday and Saturday are your main party nights in BAQ. Make the most of them.
Hotel bars like Dann BAQ, Barranquilla Plaza, The Windsor, and even Hotel Prado should at least have a pulse (meaning a few people around) during the week. Also hit up the Casa/Plaza de la Cerveza franchises around town. Even Henry's bar. There'll be chicks around. Prepagos will make themselves known.
Then there are the hooker spots that I listed in the previous response.
There will be some pre-Carnaval festivites during the weekend you'll be there. I can't say whether people will be hitting the bars and discos that weekend, or partying with the family. The following weekend is the real Carnaval kickoff party, La Guacherna. HUGE PARTY all over town. Plenty of people around and about. People gear up for that. I'm sure the bars and discos will have a healthy showing.
I will warn you now, as has been done on this board before, Barranquilla is a primarily Spanish only town. English speakers are very rare here. Be prepared. Your experience in BAQ (moreso than other cities) increases tremendously with Spanish. There is a lot of fun to be had. Barranquilleras are full rumbearas. However if you can't communicate, you miss out and/or will be the killjoy. But...there's always Cartagena 90 minutes away.
Suerte
Hey guys,
This girls is a non-pro, very sweet and nice, she likes gringos, but she needs some $$ to finish her studies, if anyone would like her contact, just mail me back at [Email address deleted by Admin]
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Thanks again Hoof. We got out tickets for the first week of Feb. I'll update this section with the latest on the clubs. Shoot me a PM if you want to meet up for a beer - we're a fun group of guys.
I am going to BAQ on the first week of feb for the carnival, and planning to use all your info guys about casas and discos, its going to be a group of 3 or 4, so if somebody wants to join us let me know.
Hi Sergio22,
This girl looks nice.
Does she perform well ?
You haven't turn your PM on so I can't contact you to ask for her cell.
Thanks to give it to me :)
Colbog,
She's really nice, believe me.
You can call at [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] leave a message with your phone or contact.
She will received the message. I hope you enjoy her, she really needs.
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The challenge is finding reasonable lodging. I'm not really worried. It's not very difficult, just frustrating. I've gotten apartments and hotels a week before and during Carnaval at reasonable prices ($50-60/nite) in areas walking distance from much of the festivities. Hot water, a/c, clean, g/f, internet, secure, etc.We have been unsuccessful in trying to get an accommodation for 4 people for 4 nights starting Feb 1st, the carnival week. Hotels are also booked, and we prefer an apartment anyway. You think it is ok to just show up with no reservation at all and try to find one on arrival? If anyone has a reliable source in BAQ please PM me. We have rented from Mery and Juan in Cartagena numerous times.
Thank you
Sergio,
You need to turn on your mail to inquire girl.
I will be in Barranquilla next month, but there is no way to contact you.
Tits N Toes
02-13-08, 18:03
Was in BAQ a couple of weeks ago for 6 days and dealt with Pro's and Non. Had a ball. Worked out at gym at Exito, ate like crazy, kinda blended in. Met a few gals who are non-pros but ready to put out on another trip. I would hang with regular chicas during the day (many worked so often it was lunch dates getting to know them) went to Froggleggs, Barullo and 7 in the late evening but didn't score (girls come in groups and they'll dance and exchange info, but you have to be REAL special to score right away IMHO) and then hit Lusitanias late night. Had 4 girls all different types but found that a little kindness and laidback attitude enhances the sex when it's time (because you can pay for some sorry sex if you're an Arsehole) All girls did CBJ and FS with great energy and enthusiasm, Drunk girl did BBBJ but it was mediocre. I think colombian pros need to know you better (strange as it sounds) to go to different levels with you as I was offered basically free sex if I came back again. (who knows if it's true I'm not disillusioned) I Just figured I'd post what the talent is like in Lusitanias. Susana (rubia) and Laura (morena) were totally cool. And I saw Susana a couple more times solo. The other girl is Kelly and she was WAY TOO DRUNK but while still coherent gave good service. Had another girl with braces. Totally gorgeous but I didn't realize she had fake boobs and (check the name) for me it's a No-No. Cheers!
Recently returned from Barranquilla festival held in February 2008, here is a quick report.
The hotel. We got a last minute reservation at Vall Claire Suites Hotel, their website is http://vallclairesuiteshotel.com
The place is a total dump. Ugly outdated rooms with undersized beds and no TVs. The TV in the living room is a 16 inch box from the 60's. Has a kitchenette, no microwave, and no utensils. You won't want to cook in it. You won't want to bring a girl in it. The place can't hold candle to Motel6. The music blasting from El Prado was nearly unbearable. Stay away. There must be better options.
The girls. There are some cute girls on occasion, but it's nothing like Medellin or even Bogota. The two places for working girls we visited are Pasarella and Lucitania (sp??) both had dogs working there two nights we visited. There is no comparison to LDV, Giro Matto, etc in Cartagena. None. The happening disco is Seven, but we didn't see any prepagos either.
The food. Great place right next to the stadium, called Frutas Los Compadres or something. Basically a large food stand with all kinds of empenadas including empenadas made of potatos backed with meats and cheese inside. Fresh juices. The highlight of my trip, tasty stuff!
Overall, very few foreigners, compared to Cartagena or Medellin or Bogota. People are very friendly. You can certainly have a good time with the girls there for lengthy stays, but the city is a total dump, dirty, ugly, industrial almost, marginal food, hot, and no beach, and absolutely nothing to do during the day! This is my 2 cents, not very encouraging, but I hope it will help somebody planning a visit to Barranquilla.
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UrbanWildlife
02-14-08, 06:26
Thanks again Hoof. We got out tickets for the first week of Feb. I'll update this section with the latest on the clubs. Shoot me a PM if you want to meet up for a beer - we're a fun group of guys.We are waiting for your field report that you promised in this post?
Looking back through your previous posts it looks like you are or are going to be in Colombia, Philippines, Thailand, Cuba, and in Europe all about the same time period more or less. You must be magic, be extremely wealthy, or both. Congratulations to you!
I just received your pm stating you are on your way to Hong Kong and Macua as well as Thailand and the Philippines this month. You really must be going to have some short stays since you are also going to Cuba and Europe according to your prior posts.
Are you Nibu by chance? ;)
I don't know why I am responding to this, but yes I was in Ukraine in Aug and Nov, Colombia Nov and Feb, and going to Colombia again in March for a weekend during Semana Santa. Bangkok/HongKong/Macau trip is in 2 weeks.
I also do frequent weekend trips to Miami. Cuba is undecided at the moment.
There is no magic. In 8 months it's not even that much travel. I have 5 weeks of vacation + banking holidays, and while I don't know what your definition of "wealthy" is I am certain that our income levels are not the same.
We are waiting for your field report that you promised in this post?
My Baq report is right below your yours, and I reported on Ctg and Europe back in Nov.
The purpose your original post and you PM is questionable, it is borderline antagonistic and it brings no value to other members. My having to respond to you brings no value either. For these reasons I will not respond to any further questions, comments or any more PM's from you no matter what you have to say.
UrbanWildlife
02-17-08, 18:55
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I was there for the Carnival from the 1st to the 5th of February stay in an apartahotel in carrera 47 called Cecils. If you search on las paginas amarillas (yellow pages) theres a lot of info about places to stay. Me and another buddy stayed for 2 nights and another guy stayed 4, we payed 879k COP total, we shared a room with 3 beds, satellite tv, a fridge, bathroom and ac, it was ok for my standards and it was the only thing available we found for those dates, for that money probably during non peak season you could stay there for 2 months jeje.
This place was 2 blocks away from la TROJA, a bar with loud music in an open corner that closes around 5 or 6 am or when a fight starts (I was there during one around 3 am and after that they just closed it) CAUTION this places its mostly for locals, and didn't really see alot of cute chicks there.
Its next door to a Stripclub called La HOJA? I seen that name in here, we went inside around 2 am and there were only like 2 or 3 girls mostly 5 or 6s, its a small bar with too much light.
Two blocks from there and from the Stadium the famous LUSITANIA, the place was ok I didn't see any girl dancing on the stage, all of them were busy in the tables or standing around the bar, I saw a couple of really hot chicks and some crazy ones asking for 360K COP TLN I just started laughing since my buddy got a really cute morena the night before for 120K from 1am to 11am 3 fucks, in the same place.
Now I'm 24, hispanic and blend in perfectly in Colombia or any other latin country, spanish its my primary language but they could easily tell I was not colombian by the accent.
The next day I bought el HERALDO, the local newspaper and called to 4 places that look good to visit during the day, usually the hours are from 10 am to 7 or 8 pm for the massage parlors, and the prices from 30K to 70K, there were at least 20 classifieds for independent, and casas on that paper.
But that they I ended up hooking up with a local nonpro friend of a friend, as well as the rest of my buddies, we went to the beach wich is like 40 mins from the city, I think its a private beach called Villa Country.
Next day I swapped girls with my buddies (these chicks were really cool and never paid a dime just for beers and food during the day) and went to a Vallenato concert, and I was amazed how many hot chicks I saw in that place.
Overall I had a really good time, the chicks are really friendly, easy to talk to (if you speak spanish of course), its a small city, food its good and cheap, the carnival or at least the small part that I saw it was not what I expected, I have been to better one.
And it was really easy to fuck nonpros, you just gotta know how to play the game. Papi would pay for my new boobs? Of course baby. And you never called that one. When you come back can you bring me a gift? Yeah sure mami whatever you want.
I also met decent, and honest girls that didn't fuck and that I'm going back to see really soon.
Again thanks for all the info guys, and if I can help with something I'm open to questions and pms.
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Sociopata,
You must have the PM blocked. I can't send. Just an FYI.
Yes I was trying to find out why and I guess you gotta pay for it.
Thats why it does not work jeje.
Amigos.
Just back from a trip to Colombia.
I started out in Barranquilla.
Actually went to Barranquilla to meet up with a chica from Cupidos. Had fun with her, we ended up as good friends, with some benefits, but better as friends really.
Funny thing is, while in the city, in a conversation with a taxista, I was pointing out hot chicas to him that I liked and he said he had a friend I should meet.
I said. OK.
Anyway, he called this chica, told her I was a nice guy and passed the phone to me, we chatted, made a date to meet, and met up later on.
She was a little 18 year old hottie. We went to the mall, walked around, had lunch, I treated her nicely of course.
I suggested a movie, she suggested to go back to my room for TV. I like her idea better
Anyway, she ended up seducing me. Didn't take much. Hahahaha. Had a great time with her!
I asked her why she seduced me like that, she said because I treated her so nicely, unlike the local guys.
Now I can't get her to stop calling me. Hahaha.
Another chica in the harem
PROS:
Of course I had to make the pro-tour circuit.
Really laughable the high-end places.
LUCUTANIA is probably the highest end. Definitely some hot chicas there, but I found the place crowded and stuffy.
The set price of 180k CP per hour on site or 400k CP for take out. Funny. 10 CP for a crveza.
JUERNES. The most laughable of all. I visited 2 or 3 times just to see the chicas' quality. It was walking distance to my hotel.
If you like fat, ugly, or bitter chicas, this is your place.
They were telling me 150k CP per hour. Really funny.
Actually there are better looking street chicas right outside the club, on the corner, asking 50k CP for un ratico. An hour or so. A couple cuties.
PASARELES. Down the street from Juernes.
Though better than Juernes, a bit nicer club, a couple cute chicas, and one hottie, still laughable.
High priced drinks, high priced chicas. 150k CP per hour on site.
The place to go for fun in Barranquilla is on MURRILLO. Without a doubt.
I found a place on Murrillo called BANANAS.
Definitely not for everyone, but my kind of place.
It's big inside, definitely nothing fancy, but had about 25 or so chicas, at least 5 of them maybe more were 7 plus.
I would say it's important to speak a bit of spanish to really get along well in this club or the other similar clubs around.
Chica cost in the club 30K CP for the chica plus 6K CP for the room there ... 30 minutes.
I got the phone number off one hot chica, and she came over the next day for lunch and loving :) I gave her 50K CP, she was thrilled.
BOTTOM LINE:
I do like the people of Barranquilla, the chicas are beautiful, but I really enjoy both Cali and Medellin much more.
Good luck!
MiamiHeatLuver
04-08-08, 00:05
Hermano,
150k for chicas en Baranquilla where there is not much gringo influx yet? Holy Crap! Colombia is in trouble!
Well, I've disagreed with Ricker in the past so I will take advantage of an obvious opportunity to agree with Ricker because his Barranquilla summary is very accurate.
If you want pros, don't go to Barranquilla. You will be disappointed. If you want pros, go to Medellin or Cali. Barranquilla is for novias, non-pros, prepagos, etc. If you join the dating sites, you will have your hands full in Barranquilla. The dating sites are full of Barranquilleras. Furthermore, it's easy to met women everywhere you go in Barranquilla. However, you will look out of place without a wingman in Barranquilla bars and dance clubs.
For pros, the best option is Lusitania. However, even Lusitania is lousy. Just wait until you are sober walking around Buenavista some afternoon and you see the Lusitania girls in the daylight without being fully prepared by the stylist at Lusitania. It's scary.
The next best option is Pasarela. However, there are fewer women there than at Lusitania and Pasarela is poorly managed which creates all sorts of problems.
Don't even go to Juernes.
At all three locations, the "official" minimum is 130K pesos per hour on site. If you are not Colombian, they will try to charge absurd prices at all three locations. Do not order beer or individual cocktails. Instead, order a half-bottle of Ron Medellin and share it with the girl of your choice. If your girl doesn't want rum, politely get rid of her and move on to the next girl. Coca-Cola, limes and ice are included with the rum.
Indeed, the Murillo area can be a blast. There are a ton of wild places down there in the Murillo area. Some have live sex shows. However, I do not recommend the Murillo area if you do not speak Spanish or are intoxicated (or both). At the risk of understatement, the Murillo area is sketchy. You probably will not see other "gringos" in the Murillo area. Also be aware that the girls in the Murillo area tend to be rough around the edges. However, they are economical.
Barranquilla is my favorite Colombian city, but it's not for everyone.
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Well, I've disagreed with Ricker in the past so I will take advantage of an obvious opportunity to agree with Ricker because his Barranquilla summary is very accurate.
If you want pros, don't go to Barranquilla. You will be disappointed. If you want pros, go to Medellin or Cali. Barranquilla is for novias, non-pros, prepagos, etc. If you join the dating sites, you will have your hands full in Barranquilla. The dating sites are full of Barranquilleras. Furthermore, it's easy to met women everywhere you go in Barranquilla. However, you will look out of place without a wingman in Barranquilla bars and dance clubs.
For pros, the best option is Lusitania. However, even Lusitania is lousy. Just wait until you are sober walking around Buenavista some afternoon and you see the Lusitania girls in the daylight without being fully prepared by the stylist at Lusitania. It's scary.
The next best option is Pasarela. However, there are fewer women there than at Lusitania and Pasarela is poorly managed which creates all sorts of problems.
Don't even go to Juernes.
At all three locations, the "official" minimum is 130K pesos per hour on site. If you are not Colombian, they will try to charge absurd prices at all three locations. Do not order beer or individual cocktails. Instead, order a half-bottle of Ron Medellin and share it with the girl of your choice. If your girl doesn't want rum, politely get rid of her and move on to the next girl. Coca-Cola, limes and ice are included with the rum.
Indeed, the Murillo area can be a blast. There are a ton of wild places down there in the Murillo area. Some have live sex shows. However, I do not recommend the Murillo area if you do not speak Spanish or are intoxicated (or both). At the risk of understatement, the Murillo area is sketchy. You probably will not see other "gringos" in the Murillo area. Also be aware that the girls in the Murillo area tend to be rough around the edges. However, they are economical.
Barranquilla is my favorite Colombian city, but it's not for everyone.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Well it's about time you started agreeing with me!
You're right on point about Barranquilla, except I personally don't like Lucitania at all. Way too pretencious and crazy expensive for me.
I agree about Murillo, but like you say, not for the novice.
If you speak spanish and can schmooze, it can be great fun though!
I had some great times there! Met some Paisas there that make the expensive Lucitania chicas look ugly.
Barranquilla, for the regular people is great, but all factors considered it is way down the list for me as far as my favorite cities in Colombia.
Suerte!
Well it's about time you started agreeing with me!
You're right on point about Barranquilla, except I personally don't like Lucitania at all. Way too pretencious and crazy expensive for me.
I agree about Murillo, but like you say, not for the novice.
If you speak spanish and can schmooze, it can be great fun though!
I had some great times there! Met some Paisas there that make the expensive Lucitania chicas look ugly.
Barranquilla, for the regular people is great, but all factors considered it is way down the list for me as far as my favorite cities in Colombia.
Suerte!Believe it or not, Ricker, I even agree with you about Lusitania. If you reread my original post, you'll see that I describe Lusitania as "lousy" and I use the word "scary" in reference to the women from Lusitania. Not exactly a glowing recommendation.
However, I wouldn't describe Lusitania as pretentious as you claim. It is easily the most upscale place of it's kind in Barranquilla, but almost nowhere in Barranquilla is pretentious. Medellin is pretentious. However, I usually have been treated well at Lusitania for the most part. It sounds like you went there too late and on the wrong night. For example, never go to Lusitania on a Friday or Saturday night at midnight. The ideal time to go would be at about 9:30 PM on a Wednesday night. Wednesday is lingerie night, the owner is there watching everything, there are far fewer guys early in the evening, etc. Thursday is swimsuit night.
I do agree that Lusitania is expensive, but it's no more expensive than upscale locations in other Colombian cities like Flores Frescas, Loutron, etc. However, the quality of the women in Lusitania is clearly far below such comparable locations in other Colombian cities. To me, that's the main problem at Lusitania. Again, Pasarela is poorly managed and Juernes is not even worth a visit.
Back to the pretentious comment. I like every Colombian city that I have visited. However, the only place in Colombian where I would describe the women as arrogant and pretentious is Medellin. Before an enormous flame war erupts, I am not saying that all Medellin women are arrogant and pretentious. However, I am saying that it is far more common to meet such women in Medellin than in other parts of Colombia. Furthermore, I am not saying that women in Medellin are unfriendly. Women are friendly everywhere in Colombia, including Medellin. However, friendly women can be arrogant and pretentious too. I like Paisas, but their "forma de ser" is different.
There are two basic ways to play the game in Barranquilla. The best way is to get a reliable wingman and hit the bars and dance clubs. The second best way is to meet the women and gay men that organize the "prepago" rings. Going either of those two distinct routes, Barranquilla is a goldmine for the experienced Gringo. Just like everywhere else in Colombia.
Believe it or not, Ricker, I even agree with you about Lusitania. If you reread my original post, you'll see that I describe Lusitania as "lousy" and I use the word "scary" in reference to the women from Lusitania. Not exactly a glowing recommendation.
However, I wouldn't describe Lusitania as pretentious as you claim. It is easily the most upscale place of it's kind in Barranquilla, but almost nowhere in Barranquilla is pretentious. Medellin is pretentious. However, I usually have been treated well at Lusitania for the most part. It sounds like you went there too late and on the wrong night. For example, never go to Lusitania on a Friday or Saturday night at midnight. The ideal time to go would be at about 9:30 PM on a Wednesday night. Wednesday is lingerie night, the owner is there watching everything, there are far fewer guys early in the evening, etc. Thursday is swimsuit night.
I do agree that Lusitania is expensive, but it's no more expensive than upscale locations in other Colombian cities like Flores Frescas, Loutron, etc. However, the quality of the women in Lusitania is clearly far below such comparable locations in other Colombian cities. To me, that's the main problem at Lusitania. Again, Pasarela is poorly managed and Juernes is not even worth a visit.
Back to the pretentious comment. I like every Colombian city that I have visited. However, the only place in Colombian where I would describe the women as arrogant and pretentious is Medellin. Before an enormous flame war erupts, I am not saying that all Medellin women are arrogant and pretentious. However, I am saying that it is far more common to meet such women in Medellin than in other parts of Colombia. Furthermore, I am not saying that women in Medellin are unfriendly. Women are friendly everywhere in Colombia, including Medellin. However, friendly women can be arrogant and pretentious too. I like Paisas, but their "forma de ser" is different.
There are two basic ways to play the game in Barranquilla. The best way is to get a reliable wingman and hit the bars and dance clubs. The second best way is to meet the women and gay men that organize the "prepago" rings. Going either of those two distinct routes, Barranquilla is a goldmine for the experienced Gringo. Just like everywhere else in Colombia.Well, I agree with you amigo, on all counts.
Like you say, Medellin without a doubt wins for the most arrogant women, though there are many sweethearts also.
Barranquilla, for the regular people is great, but all factors considered it is way down the list for me as far as my favorite cities in Colombia.
Suerte!My observation from my only trip to Baq is that there is a lot more of both quantity and quality P4P in Ctg, Bogota, Medellin.. Tons of chicks in Baq, but you need time on the ground with the regular girls, and if you have that kind of time then why Baq? It is a rather ugly city with absolutely nothing to do during the daytime. My 2 cents.
Tits N Toes
05-01-08, 14:44
Distinguished gentleman of ISG. I am a TOTAL newbie to the Colombian scene and have only been once to BAQ but I frequently rtff and thought I'd share an opinion. I went in January and posted a report but I think it was lost in the bad format of "no spacing.
NOW I get it.
Although I'm new, my experience was VERY fulfilling.
I will rehash to add to the forum and give my perspective.
First of all I stayed at the (Apartahotel Torre del Prado. See attached card).
It was 125, 000/148, 000 depending on the day, weekends being the higher amount. It was girl friendly WITH discretion and wisdom. During the DAY you just breeze in with a girl who isn't dressed like a pro and there were no issues.
At night the later you come in the better. When I was there it seemed girls worked the desk by day and guys by night. There was always another steward in the lobby from 2400-0600. If you bring in a girl after 11 or so and LEAVE before 0500 the guys would let it slide, but one night me and the chica overslept and I had to pay an additional 18, 000 to 24, 000 can't remember exactly but a woman had arrived at the desk and they DO enforce the charge.
I absolutely LOVED Barranquilla. I do speak spanish FAIRLY well and can often blend in without anyone ralizing I'm a gringo UNLESS a conversation gets intense and I forget my tenses (ie. , estaba this or that.vs- estuve this or that) That's when the people pick up that I'm a gringo.
I'm a tall, slender black male. 42 yrs but noone ever guesses. Certified Personal Trainer/ Security Guard. Former Marine blah, blah. Point is I'm easy on the chicas eyes.
I went to Bodytech at Exito everyday (I think it was 30, 000 a day) and saw the most INCREDIBLE chicas there but never bothered anyone.
I like Blackjack 21 so I gambled eveyday and I preferred the Casino on the Top floor of Buena Vista, mainly because the girls dealing there were SMOKIN'. Nothing like holding two 10's and looking at two 10's at the same time. Plus sometimes they have little shows and stuff.
The people adopted me at the tables just off being freindly. I was told more than once that I was thought to have been "Cartageñero" for my complexion.
I went on lunch dates with regular girls by day, none which resulted in FS but some making out and setting up for future trips. I swear the women there NEVER forget you. Pros and Regular girls alike.
I very much enjoyed the girls at lusitanias (sp). But the prices you guys are quoting must have gone up in 3 mos. I had a TLN with two my first time there. I never wanted to do onsite it's just my thing BUT the girl I wanted wasn't comfortable by herself OR she was upselling. Who cares, her friend was hot too so nos salimos. I paid 600, 000 for as many pops as I wanted between the two from 2300 until 0400. Lots of laughing and joking and screwing and eating the food in the fridge.
I’m not well to do but I’m not a cheapskate either. I REALLY don’t judge others and how they do things (a firm believer in "to each his own") but it would be hard to hang with some of the forum members because that price haggling turns me off. OVERPAYING by an arm and a leg sure I get it, but trippin’ off of anything that amounts to an extra 5-20 USD I just don’t get it. MickeyD’s is 5 bucks a meal and I’m more than happy to give it to a girl who’s making my toes curl.
I actually do a lot of PROS here in the U. S. I live in D. C. And use "eros" girls. Pricing here is from 160. 00 for 45 min ALL covered to 300 an hour ALL covered. Top notch good looking girls but ONE HOUR and SEEYA!
So to pay that same price for TLN with a warmer chica is GREAT for me. (160. 00 I mean don’t start a flame)
I always tipped the big guy at the door of lusitanias when I left. Other prices were 280, 000 for a fake breasted girl with a gorgeous face, 2 pops from 2400 til 0245 another for 260, 000 she was drunk and BEGGING me to take her so I said Oh well it was later than usual and not much was left that I wanted. The rubio from my 2 on one was 300, 000 for another night but we went to eat at MacMondongos and I had CRAZY energy afterwards andI screwed her brains out MIGHTILY. I know she came because the rest of my time there she saw me before the club and it was FREE (no meals, no shopping, NADA)
We even talked about hooking up and she was REALLY honest. I met an Canadian Expat who lived there and married a Barranquillera and had two kids, he invited me over for the two playoff games (GB vs NY/ SD vs NE) and said he could get me a teaching job but not paying much, around 3, 000, 000. 00 cop a month. I told this to the chica and she laughed and said that wasn’t much as she makes about 6, 000, 000. 00 cop a month.
I went to various clubs and bars and found the hottest chicas in "7". Barullo is a nice LOOKING club but 7 had the hottest, drunkest girls J.
As others have said Juernes and Paserela Show were whack to me for pfp.
I hope you guys FORGIVE my writing style, my thoughts are all over the place. I’ll try to get to the point now 5000 words later.
IF you speak Spanish. It is possible to get regular girls after 3-4 dates (yep dinner and movie type stuff) OR you can pay ONCE for a pro and then if she likes you you won’t pay again (at least not cash).
Those who are planning the move to Colombia. Don’t crap on BAQ it is a secret jewel with HOT and Comparable READY women (from slim white/ light skinned spinners to coffee brown booty girls and all in between) BUT they are WARM and laidback and just like having a good time.
I’ve seen the pics on many forums (I’ve read ALL of Rio from 05 to present ALL of Columbia and ALL of DR) and I even get some of the personalities and preferences here and I actually went to Colombia off of the strength and direction of these posts so THANKS for the info and I hope I’ve given back even if it’s strangely written.
For guys that read the WHOLE ISG. I’ll give various props.
Ricker/Mr. Enternational/Sperto. Always sound advice on a global scale.
Col Blog/Buttlover/Dars Veider. You guys are the TROOPERS of this forum. If it’s pink you are IN IT.
Sandman0011 in my opinion might have had the hottest chics in this entire forum BUT it’s not fair because photographers ALWAYS get the hot girls
I’m moving to Santiago, DR this summer for a 6mos or year hiatus so Happy mongering to all. Be smart, be safe, enjoy.
I know it’s not a BAQ thing but I also put a pic of what 300 and hour in DC gets you!
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Tons of chicks in Baq, but you need time on the ground with the regular girls, and if you have that kind of time then why Baq?That's the fundamental issue, Sean. You see a lot of guys babble about the "best" city in Colombia. That's pointless. There is no "best" city in Colombia. First, every city in Colombia is great. Second, the "best" city in Colombia depends on many factors. The most important factor is the priorities of a specific Gringo. Every Gringo has different priorities and preferences. Therefore, there is no "best" city in Colombia.
For me, my favorite is Barranquilla. Why? First, the "forma de ser" of the Barranquilleras. Generally speaking, the women in Barranquilla tend to be "descomplicadas" compared to some other cities (especially Medellin). Second, there is far less cosmetic surgery in Barranquilla than in Medellin/Cali. I want the real deal, not a bipedal mound of carefully placed silicone. I have never seen so many naturally well-endowed women anywhere outside of Barranquilla.
But obviously I am expressing a minority opinion because the Barranquilla forum is rather lifeless compared to the other forums.
The absolute best place in Barranquilla to meet women is during a vallenato concert at VC Club. It is a huge upscale club in the Villa Country shopping mall. Make sure to get a reserved table. Some vallenato singers are more popular than others.
Get a reliable wingman. Go to Lusitania with the wingman when it opens to get rid of the "baby batter" before the concert. After Lusitania go back to the hotel to shower, shave, put on some casual but elegant clothes and put on some top-notch cologne. Then hit the vallenato concert with the wingman.
It's just that easy. Of course, this all costs money.
Tits N Toes,
Nice post amigo!
Sounds like you had a great time! Welcome to Colombia
As in everything, everyone has different tastes and perspectives.
I know there are guys that dig places like Lusitanias in BAQ and Face Dos in MDE. And that's great.
I prefer hunting for the chicas in the less elegant, less traveled places.
To each his own on pricing too and what they pay for chicas. Lately, with all the Donald Trump type guys coming out of the closet, what you paid was cheap.
For me though, I couldn't imagine paying 600, 000 pesos for 2300-0400. Maybe because at that time of night, I'd do one love session and SLEEP
In reality, I could find a hot chica and keep her for a week for that money. Like I said though, to each his own. I have found that what one guy pays doesn't affect what I pay too much. I have learned with these chicas that the money isn't everything.
If you can get the chica to dig you a bit, you set the price.
As a matter of fact, for me, pro or not, if the chica is all about the money, I don't want her anyway, I don't care how hot she may be.
There's always another hottie around the corner in Colombia!
I appreciate your post. Great perspective from a first time visitor to Colombia. You made some great observations about the people of Colombia and the non-pros.
I guarantee you, as you visit more and learn the game, you seem like a squared away dude, you'll find that you can pay less but yet still not be a cheap-skate.
If you visit Colombia or wherever once in a while only, overpaying is no big deal to you, but if you visit frequently, you certainly have to budget the "pussy dinero" just a bit
Take care amigo!
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Lazy Monger
05-05-08, 23:11
Nice post Ricker, very balance and even handed. I'll have to second this comment. While I am not one to judge another man's spending. However, with the frequency of my trips I have to be bit frugal. I don't go to trolling the low end for pennies, I am still a shallow dude but I still expect a good value.
If you visit Colombia or wherever once in a while only, overpaying is no big deal to you, but if you visit frequently, you certainly have to budget the "pussy dinero" just a bit
Take care amigo!
The english is not my first language so I am just add some information.
Very important Club Bananas is the formed Club called Freddy . The address Cra 31 No 45-24 Avda Murillo zone.
15-20 girls on Friday just 3-4 in a range of 8-9. Price 40 K hailf an hour plus room 10 K. No cover.
Club Siglo XXI. 20-30 girls on Friday. Just 2 doable. 30 K half an hour. Cover 5 K. Avda Murillo with 27.
John Gault
05-12-08, 22:32
Me and my Wingman will get into CTG at around 12:35 PM. On Mayo 14th. We have gotten such good responses on Columbia Cupid that we decided to go right to BAQ from the CTG airport. We are new to this part of COL. And need advice on the best way to get to BAQ from there.
I will post a report on our adventures .
Thanks in advance for any help.
Vic
Me and my Wingman will get into CTG at around 12:35 PM. On Mayo 14th. We have gotten such good responses on Columbia Cupid that we decided to go right to BAQ from the CTG airport. We are new to this part of COL. And need advice on the best way to get to BAQ from there.
I will post a report on our adventures .
Thanks in advance for any help.
VicMan. You guys should enjoy a couple days in Cartagena before heading to Barranquilla.
Get some lovin out of your system, then hit Barranquilla.
Those internet chicas are nothing like the real chicas you can meet for real.
Barranquilla, great, nice people, just like the rest of Colombia. The city. A different story IMHO.
Have fun!
Me and my Wingman will get into CTG at around 12:35 PM. On Mayo 14th. We have gotten such good responses on Columbia Cupid that we decided to go right to BAQ from the CTG airport. We are new to this part of COL. And need advice on the best way to get to BAQ from there.
I will post a report on our adventures .
Thanks in advance for any help.
VicA cab will run you about 140K.
UrbanWildlife
05-13-08, 05:09
Pay Jackson his twenty dollars so you can receive p.m's. I have alot of info about what you need, and have some info. about the Barranquilla girls from Colombian Cupid, so you do not end up wasting your time and money getting scammed. If you can afford to go to Colombia, you most certainly can afford to pay Jackson his money, permitting you to get some up to date information to make your trip more enjoyable, and possibly save you time and money as well. An example is a taxi ride for 25,000 pesos right to the door step you want to go to, instead of the 140,000 pesos that Sean EZ posted about.
John Gault
05-13-08, 14:25
Pay Jackson his twenty dollars so you can receive p.m's. I have alot of info about what you need, and have some info. about the Barranquilla girls from Colombian Cupid, so you do not end up wasting your time and getting scammed. If you can afford to go to Colombia, you most certainly can afford to pay Jackson his money, permitting you to get some up to date information to make your trip more enjoyable, and possibly save you time and money as well. An example is a taxi ride for 25,000 pesos right to the door step you want to go to.Ok I am going to pay.
Thanks for the info.
Vic
John Gault
05-13-08, 14:33
Man. You guys should enjoy a couple days in Cartagena before heading to Barranquilla.
Get some lovin out of your system, then hit Barranquilla.
Those internet chicas are nothing like the real chicas you can meet for real.
Barranquilla, great, nice people, just like the rest of Colombia. The city. A different story IMHO.
Have fun!We are going to Barranguilla for 7 days then 14 days in CTG.
You are right about the internet but WTF life is a gamble.
Thanks,
Vic
Jesi James
05-13-08, 15:31
Arrived Sunday and used the bus directo 'mar sol' 035 656-4192. Cost was 19k pesos from Cartagena, it took approximately 90 minutes. No problems would use them again. I stayed at Tarento Suites, Carrera 46 no. 75-41, 57-5-369-1328. Cost was 90k for a single with refrigerator, breakfast included. Excellent rooms, and friendly staff. I had 5 or six different cybercupid girls come over and we would talk in the open air break area and then would go to my room, nobody said a word. This is a business/family hotel. I would use them again.
I went to the park located at Cr 46 and Calles 70/72 and saw exactly 0 streetgirls over a period of three days and nights.
I went up down around and under Avenida Murrillo and Calle 27. The only place left open is on calle 27 and the name is 'cheaters'. Farther down is a placed called 'bananas'. None of these places are open during the day and action starts around 8. The other places have all been closed about two weeks ago.
I am off to see Bogota now.
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Davidb3069
05-13-08, 16:11
A cab will run you about 140K.Use MarSol. It's a door-to-door bus service. It's probably 20-25K pesos to BAQ.
David
Pick up the mini van leaving from close to the airport. There is no set schedule for this. It leaves when it fills up with passengers.
It's located very close to the airport, but you will need to take a taxi to get there. It's a mini van parked on the roadside in Crespo, there is probably a guy standing next to it with a "Barranquilla" sign.
Jergens007
05-14-08, 08:32
Whats up Tits N toes?
Welcome to the board!
Who is that hunny in the white jacket you were with? A Pro or non pro?
Is that her in the bathing suit? If so. Good taste buddy! Like my style!
Take it easy man!
Distinguished gentleman of ISG. I am a TOTAL newbie to the Colombian scene and have only been once to BAQ but I frequently rtff and thought I'd share an opinion. I went in January and posted a report but I think it was lost in the bad format of "no spacing.
NOW I get it.
Although I'm new, my experience was VERY fulfilling.
I will rehash to add to the forum and give my perspective.
First of all I stayed at the (Apartahotel Torre del Prado. See attached card).
It was 125, 000/148, 000 depending on the day, weekends being the higher amount. It was girl friendly WITH discretion and wisdom. During the DAY you just breeze in with a girl who isn't dressed like a pro and there were no issues.
At night the later you come in the better. When I was there it seemed girls worked the desk by day and guys by night. There was always another steward in the lobby from 2400-0600. If you bring in a girl after 11 or so and LEAVE before 0500 the guys would let it slide, but one night me and the chica overslept and I had to pay an additional 18, 000 to 24, 000 can't remember exactly but a woman had arrived at the desk and they DO enforce the charge.
I absolutely LOVED Barranquilla. I do speak spanish FAIRLY well and can often blend in without anyone ralizing I'm a gringo UNLESS a conversation gets intense and I forget my tenses (ie. , estaba this or that.vs- estuve this or that) That's when the people pick up that I'm a gringo.
I'm a tall, slender black male. 42 yrs but noone ever guesses. Certified Personal Trainer/ Security Guard. Former Marine blah, blah. Point is I'm easy on the chicas eyes.
I went to Bodytech at Exito everyday (I think it was 30, 000 a day) and saw the most INCREDIBLE chicas there but never bothered anyone.
I like Blackjack 21 so I gambled eveyday and I preferred the Casino on the Top floor of Buena Vista, mainly because the girls dealing there were SMOKIN'. Nothing like holding two 10's and looking at two 10's at the same time. Plus sometimes they have little shows and stuff.
The people adopted me at the tables just off being freindly. I was told more than once that I was thought to have been "Cartageñero" for my complexion.
I went on lunch dates with regular girls by day, none which resulted in FS but some making out and setting up for future trips. I swear the women there NEVER forget you. Pros and Regular girls alike.
I very much enjoyed the girls at lusitanias (sp). But the prices you guys are quoting must have gone up in 3 mos. I had a TLN with two my first time there. I never wanted to do onsite it's just my thing BUT the girl I wanted wasn't comfortable by herself OR she was upselling. Who cares, her friend was hot too so nos salimos. I paid 600, 000 for as many pops as I wanted between the two from 2300 until 0400. Lots of laughing and joking and screwing and eating the food in the fridge.
I’m not well to do but I’m not a cheapskate either. I REALLY don’t judge others and how they do things (a firm believer in "to each his own") but it would be hard to hang with some of the forum members because that price haggling turns me off. OVERPAYING by an arm and a leg sure I get it, but trippin’ off of anything that amounts to an extra 5-20 USD I just don’t get it. MickeyD’s is 5 bucks a meal and I’m more than happy to give it to a girl who’s making my toes curl.
I actually do a lot of PROS here in the U. S. I live in D. C. And use "eros" girls. Pricing here is from 160. 00 for 45 min ALL covered to 300 an hour ALL covered. Top notch good looking girls but ONE HOUR and SEEYA!
So to pay that same price for TLN with a warmer chica is GREAT for me. (160. 00 I mean don’t start a flame)
I always tipped the big guy at the door of lusitanias when I left. Other prices were 280, 000 for a fake breasted girl with a gorgeous face, 2 pops from 2400 til 0245 another for 260, 000 she was drunk and BEGGING me to take her so I said Oh well it was later than usual and not much was left that I wanted. The rubio from my 2 on one was 300, 000 for another night but we went to eat at MacMondongos and I had CRAZY energy afterwards andI screwed her brains out MIGHTILY. I know she came because the rest of my time there she saw me before the club and it was FREE (no meals, no shopping, NADA)
We even talked about hooking up and she was REALLY honest. I met an Canadian Expat who lived there and married a Barranquillera and had two kids, he invited me over for the two playoff games (GB vs NY/ SD vs NE) and said he could get me a teaching job but not paying much, around 3, 000, 000. 00 cop a month. I told this to the chica and she laughed and said that wasn’t much as she makes about 6, 000, 000. 00 cop a month.
I went to various clubs and bars and found the hottest chicas in "7". Barullo is a nice LOOKING club but 7 had the hottest, drunkest girls J.
As others have said Juernes and Paserela Show were whack to me for pfp.
I hope you guys FORGIVE my writing style, my thoughts are all over the place. I’ll try to get to the point now 5000 words later.
IF you speak Spanish. It is possible to get regular girls after 3-4 dates (yep dinner and movie type stuff) OR you can pay ONCE for a pro and then if she likes you you won’t pay again (at least not cash).
Those who are planning the move to Colombia. Don’t crap on BAQ it is a secret jewel with HOT and Comparable READY women (from slim white/ light skinned spinners to coffee brown booty girls and all in between) BUT they are WARM and laidback and just like having a good time.
I’ve seen the pics on many forums (I’ve read ALL of Rio from 05 to present ALL of Columbia and ALL of DR) and I even get some of the personalities and preferences here and I actually went to Colombia off of the strength and direction of these posts so THANKS for the info and I hope I’ve given back even if it’s strangely written.
For guys that read the WHOLE ISG. I’ll give various props.
Ricker/Mr. Enternational/Sperto. Always sound advice on a global scale.
Col Blog/Buttlover/Dars Veider. You guys are the TROOPERS of this forum. If it’s pink you are IN IT.
Sandman0011 in my opinion might have had the hottest chics in this entire forum BUT it’s not fair because photographers ALWAYS get the hot girls
I’m moving to Santiago, DR this summer for a 6mos or year hiatus so Happy mongering to all. Be smart, be safe, enjoy.
I know it’s not a BAQ thing but I also put a pic of what 300 and hour in DC gets you!
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I thought Marsol picked up at the airport?
Do you know?
Thanks
Tits N Toes
05-24-08, 06:20
Hey Jergens007,
Sorry I just got back from 7 days in Santiago, DR. But stayed at a cheapo hotel so no internet for a week. But I wasn't missing it at all. This girl is a pro I hooked up with in DC. But we had such a good time she hung out with me when she wasn't working. Sweetheart. Middle eastern. All natural. Fun to hang with too. DC has a cool pro scene. Just expensive as hell and limited activities most times. But I've gotten a few bonuses by way of a few good laughs.
A couple more pics of her and I KNOW it's not a DC board but I'm just responding.
Cheers
John Gault
06-01-08, 01:16
Spirit had a round trip Atlantic City/ Ctg for $297 so Me and my wingman could not resist, so on May 14th.
Went from CTG airport straight to BAQ since We had a lot of hits on Columbia Cupid. Stayed at a new hotel in the north section called Hotel Continental. Huge bed with AC and hot water. Fridge Also jacuzzi and Internet in lobby. Super sharp receptionist Total girl friendly. They don't even look at who you bring in. 90K per night. You need some Spanish in hotel.
Checked out Lustiania and the talent was very good. We just went for a beer since By looking at this board I knew they were out of my price range.
Took a walk to Calle 70 to check out the SW scene and was amazed at the poor quility of girls there. { Yes I know it is not good to walk alone in these areas but I have a bad habit of getting to comfortable when I am in place. } Went to Santa Marta with one of the internet girls and was not that inpressed with the place.
After 7 days went to CTG and I filed a report on that board. I really hated CTG so We are back in BAQ. My new novia wants to go back to Santa Marta for the holiday weekend and WTF if I do not go I will regret it later back in the States. All in all I lke BAQ for the large amount of Chica bonitas walking all over the place.
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Hey Vics Picks,
If you could provide an address and telephone number for the Hotel Continental would appreciate it.
Thanks
John Gault
06-01-08, 21:43
Hey Vics Picks,
If you could provide an address and telephone number for the Hotel Continental would appreciate it.
ThanksCarrera 46 85-127 Tel. 3595530 ,3780976
Vics Picks,
Can you put some more info, abouth the Hotel continental, if is any web site.
Thanks,
Kukulkan
John Gault
06-08-08, 07:20
Vics Picks,
Can you put some more info, abouth the Hotel continental, if is any web site.
Thanks,
KukulkanCarrera 46 No. 85 - 127 Tels.: 3595530 3780976 Cel.: 3167444225
e-mail: hotelcontinentalbqin@yahoo.com Barranquilla - Colombia
Guys,
I am just arrived and would like to know if there are any other casas in Bar besides the ones that are already mentioned. Any info will be a great help.
I think it is a sort of callgirl, but for the whole night or wekend or your vacaction?
Hello friends,
I live in Barranquilla, Colombia here there are women very pretty and desired by tourists, the carnivals of Barranquilla are very popular and good they are for February but at any epoch of the year it is very good to visit there are many (many people, great) discs, in 84, murillo, her (it) 82. Etc there are beaches in end (purpose) they her (it) can happen (pass) from the better (best) thing if they want can contact me and I will guide them. Bye
I think it is a sort of callgirl, but for the whole night or wekend or your vacaction?Mer, callgirl is a good translation. A prepago has fewer clients than say a woman who works in a casa or MP and some are semipros. A few hours, the whole night, the weekend or your vacation are all possibilities. If you're looking for a longer term fuck you're better off looking in clubs in Cartagena than among "prepagos" in Barranquilla or other cities IMHO, unless you've got some good local connections. That's my guess anyway.- I don't have good local connections.
John Gault
11-24-08, 15:35
Snuck away from the Novia and went to Luistania. It was a Sunday night so I guess I should not have expected much. The talent was way down from when I was there last June. Anyway a solid 8 and me hooked up for a session and she quoted me 180 K. I told her last time I was there it was 150K. She said it still is but you must add 30 K for the room. They relly nickle and dime you. You also have to give a woman by the desk 2K before you go into the room.
All that aside it was a total GFE. BBBJ and covered sex. Trouble was half way into the sex when We changed positions the condom sliped off. As I tried in vain to put it back on she said go ahead without it as she made me believe she was excited and did not want to wait. I started to protest but she pulled me on top and you guys know the rest. Her name is Luisa. I think she did like me a little since after I left the room I stayed in the Bar to see what else came in. She sat with me for an hour just talking. She likes to practice English. You must always remember that some of these Girls should be in Hollywood, they are such good actress's.
On another note. The last two trips to BAQ I have checked out the SW scene at the Staduim and IMHO it should be taken off the BAQ lists. Not a soul did I see.
Happy hunting
Hello all,
Been to BAQ a couple of days and really loved that place.
I don't know if (as somebody has posted) you can find Lusitanias girls at the mall daytime but what is sure is that some walking at a couple of malls (Buenavista and another one in front of cathedral) and some chats with the beauties there at any shop made me thinking that a long-term stay here wouldn't be regretful.
Anyway, here is the rest
First night went to check a couple of places I got from the list. Club Bananas was really poor outside and the scene not encouraging or safe. I didn't even want to check it inside and immediately left.
Chicas de la Hoja has a lot of chicas outside on the door taking your arm and talking to you gently (as well as inside) but the place is really poor and also talent of them really low.
On 10-12 just 1 or 2 were decent and considering we are in Colombia where an ugly girl would be Miss Italy or Miss Spain I passed by sure that I would have found something better even without Lusitania (I kept it as last chance).
Taxi driver took me to a casa de citas, which is different because has no rooms (chicas para sacar) and is definitely a normal house (a family villa) with some chicas sitting outside in the garden kidding and some others doing the same inside around a Xmas tree. Looked like a very quiet college girls meeting.
Quality of chicas really good. The guy showed me 8 and I needed some minutes to make up my mind (also I needed to delay my way back to hotel as some colleagues were there in the hall).
Finally I got Jackeline who really looks like an italian actress and former Miss Italy called Anna Valle but is younger then her, with a bright smile and a very slender body. 100K for takeout to my hotel + 5k taxi
Very good, she was nice and had a very white soft skin.
I tried to arrange a date with her w/out going back the casa but she said she has to pay if not showing up
If any1 wants address of casa just PM me
Jackeline had no cell (said she had been stolen) but gave me cell of a friend who can arrange for here (and maybe other girls, I guess)
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On the next night I wanted to check this Lusitania: Junior BAQ had just won the match vs. Cali so place was crowded with local guys wearing the colors.
Saw a few gringos but 95% of the men were local.
I did not think the place is so super: talent of chicas was quite equivalent to the casa I had visited on the prev night and there you can choose without being into loud music, smoke and cover.
20-25 chicas inside. 3-4 were excellent, 5-6 very good but the rest absolutely normal, very much the level I have had in BOG for 40/50K and here it would be 150+30 so I told myself I had to get an excellent for that price or just walk away. Hanged on with a very nice rubia (blond) but she looked very down. Don't know if tired or just bad mood but anyway after a 15 mins chat I saw she was not in a good mood.
Finally the one who catched my eye got free (a guy sitting next to her left): I jumped on that chair and immediately started to check the situation. Very good smelling and soft skin. Some nice curves but no silicon (I hate it) and lovely hips, magnetic smile and honey eyes. She was not in a hurry about going into room and that was a +, she asked me a lot about Italy and Spain and we hade a nice talk but afterwards it was time to action.
She is from Medellin and that (I have seen in COL) is a kind of guarantee. She was really hot. Her name is Andrea.
She told me she had had an italian boyfriend in CTG then he left to Iran. Well I can't understand why he did not take her with him, especially going to IRAN where girl-scenary is SLIGHTLY different.
Anyway total 180K: 4 times the price of BOG but at least I had a 10+.
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Cabroncito
11-26-08, 00:35
Just spent 5 days in baq with various cyber girls some excellent, others crazy, but all cute. Someone mentioned bannanas. I did a hot 19 yo paisa there and wanted to do her sister also but did not have any ammo left. I found bannanas much safer than anyplace in Cali I have been to. So not sure what problems you ran into. Also saw quite a few SW's vics, but I did not indulge. Too bad I did not know you were down there too.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-26-08, 05:39
I heard that BAQ is not monger friendly on the wallet.. This is good proof! I for some reason thought it would be dirt cheap considering it's on the coast and not that overrun by extranjeros. AND A.A. does NOT fly there anymore.
Just spent 5 days in baq with various cyber girls some excellent, others crazy, but all cute. Someone mentioned bannanas. I did a hot 19 yo paisa there and wanted to do her sister also but did not have any ammo left. I found bannanas much safer than anyplace in Cali I have been to. So not sure what problems you ran into. Also saw quite a few SW's vics, but I did not indulge. Too bad I did not know you were down there too.The club had a very bad aspect (mala pinta) from outside and was crowded outside, probably bcos was Friday night-when I stopped with taxi in front of it all the guys drinking in the street there turned their head to look who was inside and some walked a couple of mts to directly check who was coming down.
I asked the driver to wait for me until I checked the situation upstairs as I did other times paying service but he said no, he did not like that area (El centro)and he also disliked the situation there.
A couple of gyus were standing by the door seeming a kind of security but they were surely not because drinking and joking all around.
I speak fluent spanish, I love Colombia and I have checked this country is not as dangerous as most USA or Europe think.
But I would have turned down getting off the car also in Italy or Spain in a situation like that.
Maybe on weekdays it's different or maybe I was just too diffident, but that was it.
Cabroncito
11-27-08, 04:28
I heard that BAQ is not monger friendly on the wallet.. This is good proof! I for some reason thought it would be dirt cheap considering it's on the coast and not that overrun by extranjeros. AND A.A. does NOT fly there anymore.All of my sessions were either on site or at the hotel for 60min. I paid 60-80K depending on the girl. Most asked for 100-120 but biz is very slow right now and the clubs were filled with girls. Of course good spanish is a must if you want the best price/service. Also all the pro's I met were from other cities. The costena non-pros were a real handful, even by colombian standards! The staff at the crappy 3 star hotel gave me lots of attitude for entertaining multiple guests during my stay. It is a big city but everyone seems to stick their nose in other peoples business.
There are much better venues in Colombia IMO.
Cabroncito
11-27-08, 04:38
The club had a very bad aspect (mala pinta) from outside and was crowded outside, probably bcos was Friday night-when I stopped with taxi in front of it all the guys drinking in the street there turned their head to look who was inside and some walked a couple of mts to directly check who was coming down.
I went on Sat at about 10pm. There were also quite a few guys outside. The driver said not to hang around on the street but I would be fine inside. Anyhow my jaw dropped when I entered. There must have been at least 60 girls all shapes and sizes, and only a half dozen guys. I circled the club a few times. Picked out a skinny blond, had a few drinks and did the deed onsite 60min for 80K. She was a very sweet girl and I tipped her well. Told me they send recruiters all over the country for girls. I was pretty surprised because my expectations were low reading reports about Murillo here before I arrived.
I liked very much BAQ.
It is not as much cheap as BOG but you can have a real good chica for 80-100 depending on moment, deal and situation.
I liked very much girls in the mall, in the street, in bars, etc.
Maybe the best is to have a novia in BAQ and go sometimes to casas for diff taste or to CTG for some semipros.
But anyway. Now that I'm back to Europe you just don't know how much I miss Colombia!
Can anyone recommend anywhere to go in the afternoons? All the casas seem to be only open at night.
Thanks
Can anyone recommend anywhere to go in the afternoons? All the casas seem to be only open at night.
ThanksThe best you can do is to get cell of a girl on the night before then call direct without casa and hire her for the afternoon at your place.It will cost you really less than at night as it is a simple extra she gets.
Also,you can take her out for a lunch or some drinks,she will not mind if you are nice and treat her gently.
If you want to keep pay-for-it option for the night,have a walk inside one of the malls and have some chat with girls working in shops there.Maybe you can find something interesting for the night at a very decent price without going to casas.
John Gault
12-10-08, 05:19
Can anyone recommend anywhere to go in the afternoons? All the casas seem to be only open at night.
ThanksWhat I do in the afternoons is go to the Buena Vista Mall. they have a nice Casino on the top floor. The minium bet at BJ is 2K so if you like you can sit there and drink and play all afternoon. The dealers are very good looking and that is always a plus. The Black jack rules are better than Atlantic City and I always end up having a conversation with a few locals who speak a little English. Outside the Mall Archies Pizza is a good spot for lunch.
After all you can only do so much sexo.
John Gault
12-11-08, 01:47
I have been told that the Carnival in BAQ is a huge event. People from all over Colombia attend. I think it is a four day event and most business close during that time.
Does anyone know that dates for 2009?
Google. Wikipedia. And then I think you will find the dates for 2009. I will stay in BAQ during El Carnaval. For 2 months.
I look for an apartment for one person. El Heraldo have some ones.
I have been told that the Carnival in BAQ is a huge event. People from all over Colombia attend. I think it is a four day event and most business close during that time.
Does anyone know that dates for 2009?21-24 feb 2009
John Gault
12-13-08, 01:16
Google. Wikipedia. And then I think you will find the dates for 2009. I will stay in BAQ during El Carnaval. For 2 months.
I look for an apartment for one person. El Heraldo have some ones.I looked it up. the dates for BAQ Carnival 2009 are Feb. 21,22,23, 24. Thanks for the tip on Wikipedia.
I'm thinking about doing Carnival in Barranquilla. Does anyone know how to get a reasonable apartment rental? Will probably need a two or three bedroom.
John Gault
01-08-09, 16:44
Has anyone been inside this place?
Any info about this joint would be helpful.
Also what are the hours for Victors on Carrera 48 #69-84?
This is a Casa
Cabroncito
01-09-09, 01:11
Yes I have been there (Pasarela) several times. I never did one of premises, but got numbers for next day. Decent girls, no cover, and reasonable drink prices.
Avenida Murrillo clubs have the most girls and best prices, although the drive is further from the north (ie nice) part of the city.
Has anyone been inside this place?
Any info about this joint would be helpful.
Also what are the hours for Victors on Carrera 48 #69-84?
This is a Casa
John Gault
01-13-09, 06:57
Tonight was a holiday in Colombia so that may be the reason for the poor results from my two bar tour tonight.
First Lusania. 10K cover charge and 10K for a beer. A total of 3 Chicas. One was an 8 another a 7 and the third was fat and not even worth a second look Also over 10 hombres in the joint. This was very diapointing since the oher 2 times I have been there the place was good. They are still asking 180K for an hour in house. To add insult to injury the doorman who told me on the way in there was Mas Chicas had the nerve to ask me for a tip as I was leaving!
Pasarella Show was a lot better. No cover charge and a beer was 8 K. A total of 5 Chicas and about 4 hombres. There was a very sharp 8+ and three 7's and one beast. 120 K for an hour in house. By the way there was no show while I was there.
I kind of miss LDV after this night. Even the music is better there.
John Gault
01-13-09, 15:27
I forgot to mention while in the Pasarella Show area I went to the Park and finally saw a SW. She was a 5 at best and I didn't try to get a price quote from her.
On another note went to Centro in the afternoon to buy some fruit and just look around. A funny thing to see, they have these huge cows /bulls walking around unattened, put that in with the little carts being pulled by Burros selling produce in the norh section of town and it is hard not to forget you are in a third world country.
This is my first trip ever when I have just went with the Novia for sexo.
Without a doubt it is way more expensive this way. Between all the dinners sometimes wih Her family and other expenses I am sure most other Mongers would agree. My problem is I love DFK and it is hard to get that for extended periods of time from a Pro.
I have alot of info about what you need, and have some info. about the Barranquilla girls from Colombian Cupid, so you do not end up wasting your time and money getting scammed.
Forgive my ignorance but, what's up with the Colombia Cupid site? Seems like a legit dating site. I've talked to several chicas on there and haven't even gotten a hint that any of them are pros. I'm a veteran of Costa Rica never been to Colombia but it's next on the hit list. Any info would be much appreciated as I am thinking about hooking up with one that I met on that site.
Dapanz1
I'm making a number of contacts with a verifiety of different girls through columbian cupids. What should I watch out for with this site? I'm on the phone with three girls 21 to 34. No one is asking for financial help--just three coquettes flirting away like mad.
World traveler lists apartamentos alvaro jesus, carr 53 y calle 70 as a recomeded apart hotel. Has anyone stayed there? I'm going to be in brquilla for 5 days and want a nice place for dating, a business meeting and to bring up pay for play ladies. Will this place meet my needs. I don't know brquilla, but from looking at the maps it looks like a good location. What is the area like?
Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Bob
I'm making a number of contacts with a verifiety of different girls through columbian cupids. What should i watch out for with this site? I'm on the phone with three girls 21 to 34. No one is asking for financial help--just three coquettes flirting away like mad.
World traveler lists apartamentos alvaro jesus, carr 53 y calle 70 as a recomeded apart hotel. has anyone stayed there? i'm going to be in brquilla for 5 days and want a nice place for dating, a business meeting and to bring up pay for play ladies. Will this place meet my needs. I don't know brquilla, but from looking at the maps it looks like a good location. What is the area like?
Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Thanks,
Bob
MiamiHeatLuver
01-20-09, 19:07
I have alot of info about what you need, and have some info. about the Barranquilla girls from Colombian Cupid, so you do not end up wasting your time and money getting scammed.
Forgive my ignorance but, what's up with the Colombia Cupid site? Seems like a legit dating site. I've talked to several chicas on there and haven't even gotten a hint that any of them are pros. I'm a veteran of Costa Rica never been to Colombia but it's next on the hit list. Any info would be much appreciated as I am thinking about hooking up with one that I met on that site.
Dapanz1It is a legit dating site and you can get lucky there, but I know 3 girls on there for a fact I know are prepagos. For a fact! They are just like any other typical girl trying to improve their life and the word gets out fast so in turn it tends to attract all kinds of women!
John Gault
01-20-09, 19:57
I have alot of info about what you need, and have some info. about the Barranquilla girls from Colombian Cupid, so you do not end up wasting your time and money getting scammed.
Forgive my ignorance but, what's up with the Colombia Cupid site? Seems like a legit dating site. I've talked to several chicas on there and haven't even gotten a hint that any of them are pros. I'm a veteran of Costa Rica never been to Colombia but it's next on the hit list. Any info would be much appreciated as I am thinking about hooking up with one that I met on that site.
Dapanz1I met My Novia on this site and she is for sure not a Puta. She works 6 days a week 10 hours a day at a Beauty shop. I did the dectective work on My own, since I don't like get -ting scamed. My Wingman who is a lot younger than Me has met at least 8 Chicas on this site and they were all OK . His rate of banging them is about 75% Another good thing about these Girls is they are very helpful with info you need if you are new in town.
On anoter note, I went to the SW Park on Calle # 70 and there were 5 or 6 of them there and each one was terrible to look at.
While in town if you like Carne, go to Rodizio on Carrera#82 - 53-57. This is a Brazlian Steak house that has a touch of class. 14 different cuts of meat and a great salid bar. No kidding $10 US. I love Colombia!
John Gault
01-21-09, 17:16
21St day in BAQ. Finally went to El Centro last night to check out the talent. First went to Bannas on Avenida Murillo y Calle 31. There was a kind of rough crowd out front as was mentioned by an earlier poster. I was alone but on a closer look these charactors were mostly Cab Drivers, people selling candy, etc. I walked in and paid 4K for a beer and took a seat. About 15 Chicas there and around 20 hombres. I was the only Gringo, But felt no bad vibes. Of the Girls there was one srong 8 a few 5's and the rest 6's and a few 7's All in all I was pleased with the selection. I picked out a 7 and bought her a beer. There was no rush in her manner and As We sat and listened to the music she was rubbing my leg. The price was 50k in house. The room was Ok. The Bar had a runnway and for the two hours I was there two girls did a pole dance. Both got completly naked. I really liked the way the whole thing is set up. You can talk to the girls first, then go right to the room right there. All most forgot, No BBBJ and She was pleasent enough, but as expected the usual 20 minutes type of deal.
I left and walked to Calle 27 on the same street and went in to Cheaters. 4K for a beer and about 10 Girls with only one worth having so I left quickly and took a cab to Cosmos, which was recomened by my driver. What a dump. 2. 5K for a beer and all Beasts present.
All in all I have had enough of Mongering this trip and for my last week will concentrate on the Novia and much DFK.
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I asked a question yesterday with the location--near hotel el prado. The management responded to my email. They want a 50% wired or western union. They don't take credit cards.
Does anyone know this place? World traveler's list has a website link. It looks upper end at a good price. A/c and wifi in each room. Free use of conference room for meetings. Is it female guest friendly? I'm not comfortable wiring 50% down for a place I don't know. World traveler is usually right on the money, but sometimes he takes recomendadtions from other people who are not as savey and honest as he is.
Help Brothers!
John Gault
01-22-09, 17:07
Victor’S, Carrera 48 #72-93, (no sign outside). Prices: 100k. __.
I had just said I was done Mongering for this trip and then My Novia told Me she was sick last night. Since there was still places I had not tried I went to the above address and as I was walking to the door I saw a bunch of lawn chairs out front and 3 or 4 Chicas sitting there. This was great as it gave Me a preview of what was on the inside. As I walked in I asked for a beer and was told they do not serve drinks. OK, I sit down and they bring in 7 or 8 girls who instead of walking by and giving you a kiss they all just stood there waiting for me to choose. They ranged from 6, 7 and one 8. I took the 8 She was tall and was as white as any Gringa. No in house room but the deal is 100K for an hour and there is a short time hotel close by for 15K. Not bad, with mirrors all over the place. Everything covered and the attidude was good. Her name was either Adreanna or Christina.
After that I went to the Pasarrella Show Bar and the talent was good there. About 10 Chicas and 2 hombres. I wanted to do one of the three that I had bought a beer for. It is cool when you have 3 women trying to entice you for your money. Trouble I was not keeping track of my bankroll and I then found out I was short for the 120K. Anyway told the sad faces I would see them later. All in all not a bad night in BAQ.
John Gault
01-25-09, 20:03
This will be my final report from BAQ this trip as the last 3 days will be of no interest to you guys as I will be with the Novia. Last night checked out, Chicas por La Hoja, Carrera 44 # 72-243, at Calle 72. A narrow walkway takes you to a decent bar area. A cold bottle of beer was I think 2. 5K. About 10 girls, none tha I liked so I left without checking the fare.
OK Sat. Night so I will give Lusitana one more chance. Place was loaded with many 7s and 8s and 2 or 3 Dimes. 10K cover 10K beers. What a joy to see the best looking women this planet has to offer, IMHO.
I did not want to pay the 180K so I went to El Centro to my favorie plce in BAQ, Bananas. The only problem there is the waiters hate to give you change. I finally learned and always now give them the exact change now. Kind of a pain in the ass but you get tired of getting ripped off. I walk in and I am like a king there. (Sucker). LOL Any way took the same girl I had last night. No BBBJ that time, but this ime I used a tried and true method to get proper results. She trys to put the condom on me and I say no sexo just BJ sans condom. She says no so I say OK lets just lay down for the 20 min. And relax. After a few min. Of that I say, You now I was going to give you a nice tip but nevermind. No sooner did I say that, my BBBJ was given to me with CIM. I was going to give Her 20K but it was so good I went for 40K. She was very happy with that. Plus the 50K she already got.
I love Colombia!
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Hoof Hunter
02-01-09, 03:22
I haven't posted in a while on this thread. Just lost interest, but figured I'd help out a bit since several are asking. You're going to have to do the further research. It's not hopeless.
For Carnaval, I am fully paid and confirmed for a decent place (hot water, internet, a/c, clean, secure, daily maid service) during the 4 nights of Carnaval for the grand total of 360. 000 pesos (approx. $156 for four nites, not bad) for the entire time. Yesterday I sent the entire payment down to someone that I personally know and trust, and I have a copy of the receipt from the hotel. In 2008, it was only 300. 000 pesos. Inflation. I'm not posting the name of it here, so don't bother.
I say this to say, you can find reasonably priced decent lodging in BAQ, IF you're really willing to research it. Forget about the Dann Carlton, Windsor, Charleston, BAQ Plaza, American Golf, El Prado, Sorrento, Versailles, Costa Linda, Majestik, Tarento, Alvaro Jesus apts, Torre del Prado apts (ripoff anyway), etc. They all want 250. 000-500. 000 pesos A NIGHT to start, additional 100k in fees for a guest or double. And they will generally not budge since they will get their rate. None of them are worth it, since you won't spend much time in the hotel during Carnaval days and nights anyway. It's the one chance annually for BAQ hotels to jack up their rates, much like the hotels and apts do in Cartagena and Santa Marta during high season. It is what it is.
Check out places like Hotel California, American Inn, Hotel Monterrey (in front of Lusitania), or Hotel Dorado. I have no idea of the prices, but these are decent places to start, all located within walking distance of calle 72. They are not balls-to-the-wall luxury at all, but clean, safe, decent economical accommodations during the "high season" in BAQ.
I'd posted a list of BAQ hotels a couple of years ago, in a. Pdf file. It might be in the Nibu thread. I think I recently saw it there when Jackson cleaned that mess up. You can use it to find more economical lodging in BAQ during Carnaval, and there are newer hotels available since that list. Again, you need to be able to communicate in Spanish, as many of these hotels don't do English, and why should they? BAQ receives few English-speaking tourists in general. SO, you have to play their game. Spanish. Here's the yellow pages of BAQ hotels.
http://www.paginasamarillas.com/hoteles/barranquilla/12_1_1_5_2859/index.aspx
Here are a couple of aparthotels near the main Carnaval action. You'll have to call them for rates.
Aparthotel Eslait - http://www.paginasamarillas.com/www.chchoteles.com/web_1263679_2_6_416_1_1/index.aspx
Aparthotel Yivinaca - http://www.paginasamarillas.com/www.apartahotelyivinaca.com/web_1329118_4_6_416_1_1/index.aspx
Another idea. Bring nothing valuable and stay at the motels around BAQ. Probably around 100.000-120.000 pesos a night (24 hours). http://www.paginasamarillas.com/moteles/barranquilla/14_1_1_5_3767_1/index.aspx
I'd recommend El Faraon, although a bit farther north, and Imperio Persa in centro. Both are secure, but I wouldn't leave anything in the rooms.
On another note, two more strip/monger spots to add to the World Traveller's list are Imperio Persa and Siglo XXI (21) in Centro. Much cheaper than Pasarela Show, Lucitania, etc. Clientele not for the faint of heart, but a few gems available from time to time. No English spoken, and it's best not to down there either.
Hope this helps.
Cabroncito
02-01-09, 21:20
I have been to siglo XXI several times and would highly recommend it.
You are right the hotels in baranquilla are a very poor value. The city is loud, hot and smelly though so I would have reservations about trying to stretch my budget too much. Also be aware as you move down in price many of the places advertise AC but the AC units date back to the 70's and do not blow cool air.
If it were not for the girls you would never see tourist in BAQ. And when you do visit everyone will know why you are down there, so don't try to tell them you wanted to see the beach, or go bird watching haha.
I haven't posted in a while on this thread. Just lost interest, but figured I'd help out a bit since several are asking. You're going to have to do the further research. It's not hopeless.
For Carnaval, I am fully paid and confirmed for a decent place (hot water, internet, a/c, clean, secure, daily maid service) during the 4 nights of Carnaval for the grand total of 360. 000 pesos (approx. $156 for four nites, not bad) for the entire time. Yesterday I sent the entire payment down to someone that I personally know and trust, and I have a copy of the receipt from the hotel. In 2008, it was only 300. 000 pesos. Inflation. I'm not posting the name of it here, so don't bother.
I say this to say, you can find reasonably priced decent lodging in BAQ, IF you're really willing to research it. Forget about the Dann Carlton, Windsor, Charleston, BAQ Plaza, American Golf, El Prado, Sorrento, Versailles, Costa Linda, Majestik, Tarento, Alvaro Jesus apts, Torre del Prado apts (ripoff anyway), etc. They all want 250. 000-500. 000 pesos A NIGHT to start, additional 100k in fees for a guest or double. And they will generally not budge since they will get their rate. None of them are worth it, since you won't spend much time in the hotel during Carnaval days and nights anyway. It's the one chance annually for BAQ hotels to jack up their rates, much like the hotels and apts do in Cartagena and Santa Marta during high season. It is what it is.
Check out places like Hotel California, American Inn, Hotel Monterrey (in front of Lusitania), or Hotel Dorado. I have no idea of the prices, but these are decent places to start, all located within walking distance of calle 72. They are not balls-to-the-wall luxury at all, but clean, safe, decent economical accommodations during the "high season" in BAQ.
I'd posted a list of BAQ hotels a couple of years ago, in a. Pdf file. It might be in the Nibu thread. I think I recently saw it there when Jackson cleaned that mess up. You can use it to find more economical lodging in BAQ during Carnaval, and there are newer hotels available since that list. Again, you need to be able to communicate in Spanish, as many of these hotels don't do English, and why should they? BAQ receives few English-speaking tourists in general. SO, you have to play their game. Spanish. Here's the yellow pages of BAQ hotels.
http://www.paginasamarillas.com/hoteles/barranquilla/12_1_1_5_2859/index.aspx
Here are a couple of aparthotels near the main Carnaval action. You'll have to call them for rates.
Aparthotel Eslait - http://www.paginasamarillas.com/www.chchoteles.com/web_1263679_2_6_416_1_1/index.aspx
Aparthotel Yivinaca - http://www.paginasamarillas.com/www.apartahotelyivinaca.com/web_1329118_4_6_416_1_1/index.aspx
Another idea. Bring nothing valuable and stay at the motels around BAQ. Probably around 100.000-120.000 pesos a night (24 hours). http://www.paginasamarillas.com/moteles/barranquilla/14_1_1_5_3767_1/index.aspx
I'd recommend El Faraon, although a bit farther north, and Imperio Persa in centro. Both are secure, but I wouldn't leave anything in the rooms.
On another note, two more strip/monger spots to add to the World Traveller's list are Imperio Persa and Siglo XXI (21) in Centro. Much cheaper than Pasarela Show, Lucitania, etc. Clientele not for the faint of heart, but a few gems available from time to time. No English spoken, and it's best not to down there either.
Hope this helps.
Hoof Hunter
02-02-09, 03:08
You are right the hotels in baranquilla are a very poor value. The city is loud, hot and smelly though so I would have reservations about trying to stretch my budget too much. Also be aware as you move down in price many of the places advertise AC but the AC unit dates back to the 70's and does not blow cool air.Whoa. I think you completely misinterpreted what I stated. I never implied that the hotels in BAQ are/were a very poor value. The ones I listed are/were charging exorbitant rates for Carnaval. If you're there for Carnaval, you won't spend much time in the hotel to justify $120-250 dollars a night. That's what I'm referring to. The hotel/apt. Rates during Carnaval in Rio de Janeiro or Port of Spain, Trinidad during their Carnaval period are probably similar, if not even higher. Any other time of the year, the price structure of BAQ hotels is much more reasonable and a great value, depending on your interest and budget.
To be frank, I never hotels pay more than 70. 000-80. 000 pesos ($30-35 USD) per night in BAQ. That price includes hot water, reasonably new (within the past few years) A/C unit, free internet access in room, free breakfast, daily maid service, 24 hr security, etc. For a double (me plus 1 guest). Located in Prado, great location. No guest fees. No hassles. YMMV.
If it were not for the girls no one would never see a tourist. Everyone will know why you are down there, haha.Same could be said for pretty much every city in Colombia, save Bogota and Cartagena, where there is plenty of international presence. Why else do single men go to the other cities? The weather? Investment opportunity? Get real. It's the chicks.
Medellin, for all the hype, the chicks are the main draw. And everyone knows why foreigners are there, just the same.
At least in BAQ, the weekend rumba is top-notch, and during the week, the beaches of both Cartagena and Santa Marta/Rodadero are only a little more than 1 hour away. Options for everyone.
John Gault
02-02-09, 05:35
I have been to siglo XXI several times and would highly recommend it.
You are right the hotels in baranquilla are a very poor value. The city is loud, hot and smelly though so I would have reservations about trying to stretch my budget too much. Also be aware as you move down in price many of the places advertise AC but the AC unit dates back to the 70's and does not blow cool air.
If it were not for the girls no one would never see a tourist. Everyone will know why you are down there, haha.I guess I need to learn more about BAQ. Siglo xxi sounds like my kind of place.
Do you have the address of this joint?
Also not all cab drivers know this place, I asked 3 or 4 before finding one that knew about it. Its a good 15 minute drive from el prado, lusitania, etc.
Beers are 3, 000 pesos and 40k for sex including the room I just don't remember if it was for 30 mins or 1 hour. I went on a Thursday around 7 pm. Only 9 girls, most of them 6 and 7s imho, the ad from the papper said that they open around 3pm but that day only my table was occupied. The place its big, clean, looks fairly new, its way bigger that any of the clubs around el prado.
Whoa. I think you completely misinterpreted what I
To be frank, I never hotels pay more than 70. 000-80. 000 pesos ($30-35 USD) per night in BAQ. That price includes hot water, reasonably new (within the past few years) A/C unit, free internet access in room, free breakfast, daily maid service, 24 hr security, etc. For a double (me plus 1 guest). Located in Prado, great location. No guest fees. No hassles. YMMV.Would like to know what hotel you are referring to or would recommenced.
Thanks
Cabroncito
02-02-09, 20:37
Yes my bad, what is the name of the place in Prado though that you get a good deal and how is the noise level ?
Yes I agree guys go to Colombia for only one reason. But in BAQ it is just all the more obvious.
I think SM is much nicer, but less selection of ladies.
Whoa. I think you completely misinterpreted what I stated. I never implied that the hotels in BAQ are/were a very poor value. The ones I listed are/were charging exorbitant rates for Carnaval. If you're there for Carnaval, you won't spend much time in the hotel to justify $120-250 dollars a night. That's what I'm referring to. The hotel/apt. Rates during Carnaval in Rio de Janeiro or Port of Spain, Trinidad during their Carnaval period are probably similar, if not even higher. Any other time of the year, the price structure of BAQ hotels is much more reasonable and a great value, depending on your interest and budget.
To be frank, I never hotels pay more than 70. 000-80. 000 pesos ($30-35 USD) per night in BAQ. That price includes hot water, reasonably new (within the past few years) A/C unit, free internet access in room, free breakfast, daily maid service, 24 hr security, etc. For a double (me plus 1 guest). Located in Prado, great location. No guest fees. No hassles. YMMV.
Same could be said for pretty much every city in Colombia, save Bogota and Cartagena, where there is plenty of international presence. Why else do single men go to the other cities? The weather? Investment opportunity? Get real. It's the chicks.
Medellin, for all the hype, the chicks are the main draw. And everyone knows why foreigners are there, just the same.
At least in BAQ, the weekend rumba is top-notch, and during the week, the beaches of both Cartagena and Santa Marta/Rodadero are only a little more than 1 hour away. Options for everyone.
Hoof Hunter
02-03-09, 01:41
I guess I need to learn more about BAQ. Siglo xxi sounds like my kind of place.
Do you have the address of this joint?I believe Siglo XXI's located down past Centro in Barrio San Jose. Approximate address is Cra 25 or Cra 27, Calle 39.
Imperio Persa is located approx. at Cra. 41 and Calle 44 in Centro.
Viejo Santos
02-05-09, 16:37
Good day gents anyone ever heard of this place before any info will get greatly appreciated thank you.
http://www.mundoanuncio.com/anuncio/abril_spa_hermosas_masajistas_te_haran_vibrar_1169190581.html
Guys,
I'll be staying an aprt in el prado zone. up for trying clubs. This is my first time in Brquilla. I speak fair spanish and travel to Buenos Aires frequently and post regularly on the ArgntinaPrivate site under the same handle.
Drop me a line if your time in town overlaps with mine.
I'll buy the first round!
Bob
As I come down from my p*ssy and Carnaval induced high and as the blood is slowly transferred back to my brain, I reflect upon a unique and mind blowing experience from which I had the opportunity to attend: the Baranquilla Carnaval.
While in BAQ, I happened to turn on the TV to witness some of the other forums that I/we could not attend, and for some strange reason, the US Ambassador was speaking about Carnavals. He stated, in espanol, that there are four major Carnavals in the world:
1. Rio
2. Mardi Gras
3. Baranquilla
4. Spain (multi-city)
There are others, originating in Venice centuries ago, but these are major. Carnavals, are more than a parade and a few drinks. This is a total shutdown of a major city into party mode (apparently the purpose of Carnaval is to party hearty before Lent kicks in). In my time in BAQ, I stayed in the nicest area, the Prado barrio, and it was vacant as heaven on a Saturday nigh (thank you Leonard Cohen). Everything is shut down.
I booked my 10 day vacation in CTG without fore-knowledge of the Carnaval, and when I learned about it here, I decided that I had to go. This is where it was going to be at, and couldn't imagine just spending another day at the beach or LDV when the Carnaval was going on.
Not knowing how booked up hotels would be, I checked out hotel on the internet, and found, to my surprise, Hotel Barranquilla Plaza had rooms available with a month to go. But did it cost me, like 150 with taxes, US rates, obviously they were going to stick it to the man for this week.
Carnaval (and BAQ in general) is not a place to monger alone, it's a party in which one should be accompanied by a chica. So before I got to CTG, I arranged a chica friend from CTG to accompany me. She moved to Medellin so I bussed her in. However, she ends up taking the bus late and I have to make other arrangements. I was pissed at her, but we worked it out later.
NOTE: Baranquilla is a big cosmopolitan city like Medellin, and a contrast to the near ubiquitous poverty of Cartagena. And like other guys have noted, it is not a mongering destination, but if you happen to be there, there are casas and clubs, many you will never hear about in this forum. In general it's a place to take a chica to.
The night before leaving to BAQ, I was talking to another chica 'friend' of mine in Laguito (chica #2), and told her of my plans. She had this big look of disappointment on her face, and asked me, 'next time you go, take me! '
So when chica #1 flakes out, I called chica #2, and asked her, can you be ready to go in 3 hours? She gave out an 'eeeyyy' sound and like clockwork, she showed up in a taxi just before the Marisol bus was about to pull away from my apartment. Not bad for a single mom. Money was never discussed, she wanted to party. Latinas can be punctual if they're sufficiently motivated. Though it's rare.
And as discussed previously, the road from CTG to BAQ is fine. It is full of military checkpoints and the odds are slim (though not 0) of anything wrong going on. On the outskirts of CTG, just past the airport, check out the extremely poor barrio of La Boquilla, and remember the stifling poverty the next time you're feeling sorry for yourself.
Hotel Baq Plaza is a decent hotel, 3. 5 stars IMO, though the rooms could be a bit bigger, but no problemo. Another guy from my Playa Mar apartment was going to the Carnaval with his chica friend and we decided to hookup for a big Rumba at the Hotel Prado. The tickets were expensive, like 35-40 bucks per person, but were told it was THE party in town that night.
NOTE: Even though the Prado barrio hotels are expensive, the north side of town, where Prado resides, it where the action is, and where most of the parade routes start. My friend regretted booking a cheaper hotel way on the south side with the hassle of shlepping to the events. At the BAQ Plaza hotel, we were within a 10 minute walk or taxi ride to events.
(next Rumba time)
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Rumba (Almost) All Night Long
When I began learning espanol about 6 years ago, I quickly realized that learning another language is not just a means of communication with people of a different code. It is a doorway to a different frame of mind or mindset, a world-view, a way of seeing the world. Over the years I began to see how Latinos see things different from the gringo mindset and that is possibly due to simply how language is expressed.
So I thought I knew a little bit about the Latino culture and mindset as I came into the rumba. For example, most other cultures have much different view of time (don't we know with the Late-tinas! ) than our culture, they're more connected with space than time. But that night, I feel like I really got it in a way like never before.
The Hotel Prado grounds were setup for a combination party/concert, and when we arrived, it had the energy that is common just outside any concert, people selling all sorts of shit, including phony and real tickets.
NOTE: Beware of scalpers for the events in Carnaval, there are a lot of phony tickets being sold and they will target gringos and you may discover too late that you've bought a very expensive piece of paper worth nothing.
We entered the outside concert arena, which was huge, about 75 yards long with a massive set of speakers that shook one's body with the bass sounds. The setup is table based, about 12 seats to a cloth table, with all sorts of booze to purchase (no BYOB). But we discovered that those 75 yards were the back HALF of the hall, the overflow area!
The bigger and wider section was up front, and we quickly grabbed 4 seats. Though the tables were not supposed to be reserved, it was obvious that deals were being done. We got there just as the concert started and we were seated about 50-75 yards from the stage, but it was fine. If you want to attend this kind of event and being close to the stage is important to you, get there an hour a head of time.
We ordered some food (great soup) and a bottle of Ron Medellin and got down to enjoy the event. And there was plenty of enjoyment for the eyeballs. Let me give you my opinion of Barranquilla women: they're gorgeous. Though BAQ is in the coastal/costeno region, most of the women were triguena or blanca, and the blancas were sooo beautiful, very soft, feminine features, but different from the Paisa look. Of course, with the cost of these tickets, you're gonna get a heavy blend of rica blancas. And it was double the pleasure as they began to shake "what dey got". But with many of these beauties, I couldn't figure it out, they were much older men. Were they with their husband or their father? Probably the former, a rich dude. But then who am I to talk, my date was 29 years younger than me! BTW, I also looked all over, and saw 2 other gringos the whole night, in a crowd of about 4 thousand. Refreshing. This is a pure Latino gathering with 0 gringo influence. A celebration by and for Barranquilla really. There were about 5-6 bands over the night, the first were the Police, at least a Latin group dressed up in Police uniforms.
But it was the pure Latino experience I want to talk about, back to my original point. I was blown away by the totally purity of the joy expressed by everyone, joy for Latin music, for being a Baranquillero, a Colombiano, a Latino. Even with all the alcohol, there was no hint of heaviness, it had this light quality of unadulterated celebration and happiness. Even though I never been to Mardi Gras, it was the opposite of the sloppy-drunk 'show me your tits' kind of yahoo experience that I've seen on videos. And part of that pure Latino experience is the expression of that joy and wild-letting-go through dance. Latino America and dance are intimately intertwined, a culture of dance, salsa, meringue, etc.
With people dancing in the aisles, on their chairs, some on the tables, I was truly impressed by the many salseros all around, especially one couple, in which the guy must have weight 280 pounds. He and his chica were an amazing dance couple, and how he could move that huge body around so fast was beyond me. Probably lots of practice since childhood.
One of the highlights of the night was (I believe) a new song called 'Mama Ron'. Wherever this song comes on people start smiling and laughing, it's huge. The lyrics are funny, an homage to a drink that is like mother's milk. Have to get that song. Mama Ron, todo el dia, Mama Ron.
In any case, the four of stayed from 8 till about 2:30AM, and the party was still going on. Some people looked exhausted, taking breaks before going back to dancing. My friend told me that the concert goes until dawn. I keep thinking about taking salsa lesson, now I want to learn it even more.
(next: Cosmic Parade)
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Cosmic Parade
NOTE: If you want to take pictures of the parades, most of them run north-south, so stay on the western side of the street, and you will get some great shots in the late afternoon sun behind you.
After the marathon dance/concert/party/rumba we slept in, and had plans to attend the Grande Parada on Sunday.There are about a dozen parades over the 4 days of Carnaval of various lengths and routes, as well several rumbas in the big hotels and thousands of neighborhood parties in the streets!
Even though its' February, BAQ is hot. Freakin' hot. Fortunately the Grande Parada route paralled the river, and there were a few breezes to cool things off. But not by much.
We took a taxi to an area that was close to the start of the parade, around calle 80. We were approached by a number of guys scalping tickets and refused them. But one guy said, 'I'll accompany you to the ticket entrance, and you pay me when you get in'. Seemed like an honest deal, and it worked. Maybe the ticket guy was in on it too, but it got us into a smaller bank of stands that were next to the large grandstand. Unfortunately the roof didn't completely protect us from the sun, and we fried for awhile. Even the Baranquilleros were sweating bad. To add to this, the parade, scheduled to start at 1PM didn't get going to 2PM.
Now you may have some preconception of a parade from the 11 o'clock new showing fire trucks and kids waving flags in small town USA. But forget about it, this is a whole different level, like something from another planet. If I could sum it up, the BAQ parades are Disneyland meets Latin tradition meets tripping-on-acid-at-Dead-Concert meets a Las Vegas Chorus Line - it was so far beyond any expectation of possibility of fun that it was at the point of happy tears at times. Like my inner child came out and began to rock out with the awesome display of music, colors, dance, energy, trippy shit, comedy. Awesome entertainment.
Before the actual parade started, there were a few clowns and mimes coming around, keeping it lively. 5 clowns approached me, the only gringo in sight, opened up what looked like prayer books, and in chorus recited what appeared to be a slightly dirty poem - I didn't catch all of it, but people were all laughing around me. And they requested me to bless their holy book afterward, and then asked for a tip. Fun to be part of the entertainment.
In the grande parade there are a number of re-occurring themes: african dancers, Minney Mouse with Afros, traditional dances, gorillas, Marimondas (see below)), clowns, big giant heads, guys without heads, beauty queens in scant clothing. The traditional dances were beautiful - the women had full length dresses in which they would hold up like inverted peacocks, revealing gorgeous colors. And the dancers ranged from 5 years old to some about 75 or more. The little kids were so cute - they hardly knew what was going on. And the women were gorgeous, many of them just young teenagers, whom I assume were thrilled to have their day of fame. Meanwhile I'm snapping away, taking about 200 shots, and the women would turn slightly towards me to get a good shot of them. My camera seemed to gravitate towards the prettiest chicas in the parade. Funny, that.
The ‘mascot’ of the Carnaval is a mythical creature known as a Marimonda, which is sorta like a skinny elephant. Of course there ain’t no elephants in South America, and the exaggerated nose of the Marimonda is a phallic symbol representing the drunk, crazy, naught Colombia man, looking for a place to put his trunk.
It’s hard to describe a parade sin parar, it would not end. Group after group, hour after hour of just wonderful unbridled, fun energy. I was juxtaposed about 200 yards from the beginning of the parade, and from my vantage point I could see and feel the energy of the dancers in each group as they approached, like watching waves of the ocean from a distance. The never-ending dance of colors, energies, beats of the drums and the rhythmic sounds of the accompanying flutes had an affect on my consciousness – it was like a mini-acid trip that put me into a blissful state, all the while my inner child was brimming with delight.
Though there were recurrent themes, there were numerous groups with just plain wild-ass costumes that took lots of imagination and lots more time to assemble, along with all sorts of dance numbers. Some groups had mostly little kids, some groups were very professional, many were not, some had mature ladies. And some only had hotties – and my camera was working overtime with those groups.
As the hours went on, apparently the organizers saw that it was running late, so the last hour of dancers were more like runners, and by the time the last group came through, it was pitch dark, the parade lit only by the streetlights. But the parade was only one part of the party.
(next: post-parade wildness)
Gonzo,
I just got back from BAQ and I agree the gringo influence is almost ZERO in BAQ. Frankly, I didn't see a ton of real hotties in BAQ. But, having said that, the ones I did see were stunning. I had someone set up in advance, which turned out to be a smart thing to have done. BAQ is definately NOT a hobbyist destination. But, I enjoyed my time there.
Dapanz1
Great hotel for the money was Hotel Stanford Plaza. A single cost 110, 000/night. A/C worked great! Too good in fact. Free continental breakfast, hot water, wireless internet, secure parking lot w/surveillance camera, internet cafe and attentive staff. At least 2 of the staff speaks english. This hotel is associated with the adjoining Windsor Hotel in a very nice area of BAQ. As a guest of the Stanford, you can use the pool and sauna at the Windsor. I really like the neighborhood surrounding the Stanford. Everything from restaurants to retail all within a 2 block radius. I will stay there again.
Dapanz1
Hey amigo, thanks for the cool reports, good reading.
John Gault
03-30-09, 04:57
Gonzo,
I just got back from BAQ and I agree the gringo influence is almost ZERO in BAQ. Frankly, I didn't see a ton of real hotties in BAQ. But, having said that, the ones I did see were stunning. I had someone set up in advance, which turned out to be a smart thing to have done. BAQ is definately NOT a hobbyist destination. But, I enjoyed my time there.
Dapanz1So far this year I have spent 57 days in BAQ and except for Carnavel,I have not seen another Gringo. so I agree with you on that point.
As far as BAQ not being a Monger spot ,IMHO I have to take issue with that.
Yes MDE and Cali have a little more to offer but if you are willing to check the posts on BAQ you will find there is some good action here. It can be a little trying as even some of the cab drivers do not know the hot spots.
My favorite spot is Bananas in a not great section of town, but for 50K on site you can find a gem or two on the weekends. BBBJ for a few extra bucks can be had. Try matching that in CTG. LOL
Great hotel for the money was Hotel Stanford Plaza. A single cost 110, 000/night. A/C worked great! Too good in fact. Free continental breakfast, hot water, wireless internet, secure parking lot w/surveillance camera, internet cafe and attentive staff. At least 2 of the staff speaks english. This hotel is associated with the adjoining Windsor Hotel in a very nice area of BAQ. As a guest of the Stanford, you can use the pool and sauna at the Windsor. I really like the neighborhood surrounding the Stanford. Everything from restaurants to retail all within a 2 block radius. I will stay there again.
Dapanz1Can you please post a telephone number for the Stanford hotel.
Thanks
Here is the phone. Ask for Stefany. She speaks perfect English.
(57) (5) 3676767,(57) (5) 3581658
Dapanz1
i wanted to finish up the rest of my story of the carnaval, and thank the guys who responded.
i stood for almost 5 hours transfixed by the energy of the carnaval, being fed by it, ignoring the heat and the tiredness and the constant bombardment of sensual stimulation. it was already pitch dark by the time the carnaval ended, the final groups being powered by streetlights. my chica was a real sport, she enjoyed the parade, happy to be a part of it, but probably not for 5 hours. she was patient while i was acting like a camera-crazy adolescent tourist, high on my inner child. she looked gorgeous in her sombrero. some chicas just look great in hats.
like a post concert letdown, the crowds streamed out into the street, and we filtered down 79th or 80th st westward (the parade was on the eastern most street, next to the river). usually, when you leave a concert or other high powered event, you expect a letdown into a lower strata of energy, or different, more diffuse energy. but not at carnaval. you go from one party to another.
the crowds streaming out of the parade ran smack into another wild scene. the neighborhood near the parade ground was in full party mode. bar after bar brought their sound system outside, blasting reggaeton, rock, salsa and other assorted native tunes. one particular bar also brought out their total giant screen television, creating a spontaneous dance concert with a latino version of a mosh-pit.
my chica and i, as well as the parade goers were blocked by the mosh-pit scene, so we had to turn down a side street and then parallel our way westward. so here i was in the middle of this wild south american scene, my chica at my side, the only gringo in sight. perhaps on other days i may have felt a little out of place or unsafe. the neighborhood was a strata 3ish, not bad, but not the prado neighborhood either. but just like main street, every 4th or 5th house brought their stereo system onto the street, along with tables full of food, display a long array of block parties. it was crazy, but not unsafe, people were in party mode, and i think if i simply made an effort to say hello, i would have been invited to join in the fun on the street. people were in that happy drunk place, you know, where they love everyone and just want to dance. maybe by midnite the fights would break out.
but my chica and i were really feeling it from the whole day of activity. we just wanted to find a cab and get away form the noise. we were looking forward to some quiet time, maybe a little sexy time too. we got back onto 80th street going around the mosh-pit party, trying in vain to catch a cab, which were pulling double duty now that the parade was over. miraculously, my chica hails down one rare empty cab, and speed away from the big neighborhood party scene.
back to baranquilla plaza hotel, where it was soooo quiet and peaceful, we took a shower and went to dinner. down the hill (south) from the hotel, about 50 yards on the opposite side of hte street are two restaurants, one is the buffalo grille, on the right, and on the left, i think it's called verdadero (? ). we did verdadaro, which delivered some really awesome seafood for an equally awesome cheap price. the price of food in baranquilla, void of gringos and tourists in general, stays at a very reasonable low-market rate, even top-notch food. it was delightful.
while sitting an outside table, eating dinner at night (such a pleasure for february, no? ), i noticed a group of gringas nearby, picking up the english, something so rare. they looked like nice women, but i could help but notice how unattractive they were in comparison to the general latina population in baq. maybe it's just that one tires of seeing something familiar, and the exotic is always more attractive (something that certainly plays to my/our advantage in south america! ).
in any case, we went back to the hotel, and watched a bit of television. they had on a great dance show from the carnaval, but i couldn't help notice how big the main dancer's boobs were, very odd for a dancer, but nothing unusual for colombia. we also watched the crowning of miss baranquilla carnaval, some great eye candy.
we crashed, but the next morning my chica gave me one of the best bbbjs of my life, she really upped her game in the last year or two! so we packed up, and before we left baq, i gave her a fairly nice stack of 50mil pesos, rewarding her for her patience, great attitude and getting her butt to my apartment on 3 hours notice for a weekend trip. and i told her that and that i was paying her for her time, like an escort. she let out a girly giggle and gave me a big kiss. the ride back to ctg was uneventful except for the group of italianos and their skinny puta ldv pickups with oversized boobs.
so in all, carnaval was a weekend that i will not forget, made even better by the spontaneous quality of my late planning. i highly recommend you get here at least once in your life, or to any carnaval. of course rio is wilder and larger in size, but baq is much closer and perhaps a lot safer. gonzo over and out.
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I wanted to finish up the rest of my story of the Carnaval, and thank the guys who responded.
I stood for almost 5 hours transfixed by the energy of the Carnaval, being fed by it, ignoring the heat and the tiredness and the constant bombardment of sensual stimulation. It was already pitch dark by the time the Carnaval ended, the final groups being powered by streetlights. My chica was a real sport, she enjoyed the parade, happy to be a part of it, but probably not for 5 hours. She was patient while I was acting like a camera-crazy adolescent tourist, high on my inner child. She looked gorgeous in her sombrero. Some chicas just look great in hats.Sounds like a great trip! I am thinking about doing a Cartagena -> Santa Clara trip next year, stopping off in Barranquilla for Carnival.
Helpmann
I believe Siglo XXI's located down past Centro in Barrio San Jose. Approximate address is Cra 25 or Cra 27, Calle 39.
Imperio Persa is located approx. at Cra. 41 and Calle 44 in Centro.Bro,
Long time. How are you doing? This is X-Man from UMV, Wes and I were just talking about you theother day. He's off to AC and I'm off to Rio on Sat.
Member #3437
05-16-09, 19:27
Bro,
Long time. How are you doing? This is X-Man from UMV, Wes and I were just talking about you theother day. He's off to AC and I'm off to Rio on Sat.Westfla here. The boys are back in town!
Tell Wes I missed him in AC in January.
Westfla here. The boys are back in town!
Tell Wes I missed him in AC in January.Good to hear from you. Wes is heading back to AC on Thurs. Rio was a blast as usual. I'm working on my Medilin trip for July/Aug before heading back to Berlin (Artemis) for my monthly "Oil Change".
Going to CTG in two days but plan to make a side trip to Barranquilla. Have a young hottie who wants me to hang out with her and one of her girlfriends. I want to go where the non pro action will be. My spanish is great! I'm young and they tend to go for me. I would like to go where lots of people will be, so that I may people watch and engage strangers (particularly women). While I'm with my young hotties, I would also like to window shop. My Spanish is great. Can anyone help me out with suggestions on where to hang out? What parts of the city? Something like the old city outdoor food courts. Doesn't have to be exactly like that but active with people and places to sit and shoot the shit, grab something to eat and sip on a drink.
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