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Didn't intend to be so vague, just that I covered a lot of ground in only 4 days for a first visit, thus don't recall every detail. As I mentioned in the strip clubs, the ladies negotiate prices on their own so can be all over the place depending on what your requests are. The rooms are a fixed rate though, paid to the club, sorry but don't recall more on that end as I chose to get phone number and meet at short term hotel the next afternoon. The short term hotel was around 50 K for 3 hours, hot tub upgrade included but it didn't work!
I stayed in the Chapinero area, around the Chile (calle 72) area mentioned in the post so all the casas I visited were within 7-8 blocks in every direction, easy walking distance. Since it was daytime I went to casas I remember well the prices, and the varied from 30-35 K for half hour. I did get flyers from cheaper places offering promotional rates but they seemed like they offered minimal service for 27 K, and probably would upsell to full service or something to get back near the 35 K range.
I can't speak about the Zona Rojo or streetwalkers down that way since I didn't visit, I also didn't get much further north than my barrio since I also had business to do and limited time to explore. Chapinero was a decent area to start in my opinion, and not too far from good restaurants, in fact the best British food I've had in South America at a place called El Ingles. It's not a drinking pub but is a very good afternoon restaurant with great prices...Appreciate the info that really helps! Just trying to decide where the hell I will go with my vacation end of May LOL.
If you're in Bogota and want to kill some time during the day go to Javerianna University on 7th ave and 39th st-- Lots of Beautiful girls walking around there.
Also Andino Mall / Zona T area is Great.
You'll be lucky to find a 1* hotel close to that dump. Stay somewhere safer.BullCrap-- Hotel Dann on 19th st and Hotel San Francisco on 10th Ave.
Just want to warn you guys there are are under 18 girls in Santa Fe. The Age of Consent vs Age of Majority in Colombia is 14. For an Americans that is illegal Although it would probably be hard to prove.
Here's some info on those laws; http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/is-sex-tourism-against-law.htm.
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Greetings Gentlemen,
The Age of Consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
However, the Age of Consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.
What you need to focus on is the Age of Majority, which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.
Please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.
Thanks,
Jackson
Hey all,
Heading down to Bogota and will be there Saturday to Tuesday. Have a couple of girls set up but don't know which hotel to stay in. Was figuring to stay near Park 93 for the nightlife, restaurants and being close to everything. But flexible on location. Anyone know a comfortable girl friendly hotel they can recommend? Was going to stay at Lancaster house but don't know if its girl friendly. $50-$90/ night price range.
Thanks all as always. And if anyone is there around the time and wants to grab a drink I'm down.
Cessna2100
05-09-15, 20:14
This was my first time to Bogota. I stayed in Chapinero neighborhood. Its fine during the day, but seedy at night. Should not walk around at night. Taxis only. I stayed here. Awesome rooms, free breakfast, full kitchen, and chica friendly, and about a 15 minute taxi ride south to Santa Fe for he chicas, and about 20 min taxi ride to the north to Zona Rosa and Parque 93 if you want to hang out in the nice part of Bogota. 10-20 mil taxi depending on traffic.
Apartamentos Living 55 (Bogota, Colombia) - Condominium Reviews. TripAdvisor.
I went to Atunes during the day. It does not pick up until about 3 pm. I never saw more than 15 girls there at a time though. But they were all just as hot as the girls at La isla and Fase Dos in Medellin. Lots of guys sitting around drinking and hanging out but they were not pulling girls. Just drinking. Beers are 5 K. Bottle of Rum was 45 K. Waiters very nice. Good service. I was only gringo there everyday that I went. To take the girl upstairs to the room its 70 k for 15 minutes. 30 minutes is 140 K. Cold showers in room. No towels. Have to rinse your dick off and use toilet paper to dry off. That sucks. All the girls leave at 630 pm to get ready to move to the strip clubs across street at night. Ones I talked to were going to work at Paisa club, Fiebres, and El Castillo.
Went to Fiebres one night. From 8-10 pm American style strip club if your are in a small redneck town as far as the setup and decor. Girls gave good dances. Girls were very hot. Lots just standing around though waiting to be taken upstairs. Again, price was 70 k for 15 min. (what's up with the 5 min time limit in Bogota) No me gusta.
Another night I went to El Castilo. Man this place is nice! Way more comfortable chairs and tables, much larger than Fiebres, decor inside is really cool. Its very big. I went on a Monday night around 8 pm. About 15 girls walking around and sitting. Music was good. No dancers on stage. Just call a girl over to your table, and talk rates. First girl, a Paisa from Medellin, quoted me 200 K for 30 min and then when we went to pay for room she asked for another 40 K for room. I said no and took my money back. Found another girl, a Venezuelan, her price was 130 K including the room. Rooms are very nice, but again, no fucking towels. Wash your dick in sink and dry off with toilet paper. Damn. Ill go back to Bogota probably. But the Santa Fe area is major shit hole. North of 84st is the best part of Bogota. And that's a 25-30 minute taxi ride away at 25 mil for the taxi.
Any recommendation on good escort agency with English speaking operator? I am traveling to Bogota next week and I want to try the Escort sites, looking for decent site speaking English is a huge plus.
Thanks
Bango Cheito
05-10-15, 04:29
This was my first time to Bogota. I stayed in Chapinero neighborhood. Its fine during the day, but seedy at night. Should not walk around at night. Taxis only. I stayed here. Awesome rooms, free breakfast, full kitchen, and chica friendly, and about a 15 minute taxi ride south to Santa Fe for he chicas, and about 20 min taxi ride to the north to Zona Rosa and Parque 93 if you want to hang out in the nice part of Bogota. 10-20 mil taxi depending on traffic.
Apartamentos Living 55 (Bogota, Colombia) - Condominium Reviews. TripAdvisor.
I went to Atunes during the day. It does not pick up until about 3 pm. I never saw more than 15 girls there at a time though. But they were all just as hot as the girls at La isla and Fase Dos in Medellin. Lots of guys sitting around drinking and hanging out but they were not pulling girls. Just drinking. Beers are 5 K. Bottle of Rum was 45 K. Waiters very nice. Good service. I was only gringo there everyday that I went. To take the girl upstairs to the room its 70 k for 15 minutes. 30 minutes is 140 K. Cold showers in room. No towels. Have to rinse your dick off and use toilet paper to dry off. That sucks. All the girls leave at 630 pm to get ready to move to the strip clubs across street at night. Ones I talked to were going to work at Paisa club, Fiebres, and El Castillo.
Went to Fiebres one night. From 8-10 pm American style strip club if your are in a small redneck town as far as the setup and decor. Girls gave good dances. Girls were very hot. Lots just standing around though waiting to be taken upstairs. Again, price was 70 k for 15 min. (what's up with the 5 min time limit in Bogota) No me gusta.
Another night I went to El Castilo. Man this place is nice! Way more comfortable chairs and tables, much larger than Fiebres, decor inside is really cool. Its very big. I went on a Monday night around 8 pm. About 15 girls walking around and sitting. Music was good. No dancers on stage. Just call a girl over to your table, and talk rates. First girl, a Paisa from Medellin, quoted me 200 K for 30 min and then when we went to pay for room she asked for another 40 K for room. I said no and took my money back. Found another girl, a Venezuelan, her price was 130 K including the room. Rooms are very nice, but again, no fucking towels. Wash your dick in sink and dry off with toilet paper. Damn. Ill go back to Bogota probably. But the Santa Fe area is major shit hole. North of 84st is the best part of Bogota. And that's a 25-30 minute taxi ride away at 25 mil for the taxi.1) a taxi from chapinero to downtown or the north should NEVER cost more than 10 k, 12 k if traffic is absolutely horrible.
2) it's been said here before, tip the cleaning lady 2000 pesos, that way you'll get 20 or even 30 minutes for the ST.
1) a taxi from chapinero to downtown or the north should NEVER cost more than 10 k, 12 k if traffic is absolutely horrible.Not necesarily true, Chapinero is a VERY large area, goes from Calle 39 To 100. I guarantee you that a taxi from 39 to 100 will cost you more than 12. A taxi from 61 and Caracas to 72 and Septima (a 5 minute ride) cost you a Minimum of 6 K sometimes 7 k. 10-12 K if you take a white taxi. I agree that 25 K is too much for a yellow taxi, but to state that should not cost more than 12 K is inaccurate, again, it depends of the distance.
Planning a first trip to Bogota in a few weeks with some friends. We have stayed at the Mansion and had a great time. Was wondering if there was anything similar or even remotely similar in Bogota that we could stay at?? Any help would be much appreciated.
Are there any freelance bars / clubs in Bogota where you can just go and meet Semi Pros? I like bars / clubs with good music / drinks, where you can sit have a drink and possibly meet a freelance / Semi pro? Or any reputable escort sites?
Thanks.
FP.
World Travel 69
05-16-15, 15:32
There used to be one, but I do not know if this newer location is the same thing.
O Hotel VIP Bogota, Calle 23 #7-36, (Old Address Carrera 19 A #122-33.) __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: _ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA406hVRRBI https://www.youtube.com/user/hotelvipbogota.
Planning a first trip to Bogota in a few weeks with some friends. We have stayed at the Mansion and had a great time. Was wondering if there was anything similar or even remotely similar in Bogota that we could stay at?? Any help would be much appreciated.
Wildcat5012
05-16-15, 22:21
Any recommendation on good escort agency with English speaking operator? I am traveling to Bogota next week and I want to try the Escort sites, looking for decent site speaking English is a huge plus.
ThanksYou might want to try eroticasbogota.com. They have an email address on the site and are pretty responsive to it, so you can complete the whole reservation by email. This allows you to use Google translate if you're not a Spanish speaker.
AddictedToWomen
05-21-15, 20:36
BullCrap-- Hotel Dann on 19th st and Hotel San Francisco on 10th Ave.My bad. Apparently you can find a better than 1* hotel there. It's still a dump and dangerous though, stay somewhere safe.
My bad. Apparently you can find a better than 1* hotel there. It's still a dump and dangerous though, stay somewhere safe.Again BullCrap-- You do not know what you're talking about.
Hey all,
Heading down to Bogota and will be there Saturday to Tuesday. Have a couple of girls set up but don't know which hotel to stay in. Was figuring to stay near Park 93 for the nightlife, restaurants and being close to everything. But flexible on location. Anyone know a comfortable girl friendly hotel they can recommend? Was going to stay at Lancaster house but don't know if its girl friendly. $50-$90/ night price range.
Thanks all as always. And if anyone is there around the time and wants to grab a drink I'm down.Try this one: http://www.viaggio.com.co/destinations.htm#/ list.
Chica friendly apart estudios at walking distance from Parque 93 or Zona T.
Any recommendation on good escort agency with English speaking operator? I am traveling to Bogota next week and I want to try the Escort sites, looking for decent site speaking English is a huge plus.
ThanksI was successful with a few agencies through their WhatsApp numbers. Angelitas is particularly responsive. The numbers are prominently displayed ion their sites. Email worked well with SolitasParaTi. Which has excellent escorts.
Anyone used Andes EcoTours for nature travel near Bogota? Not sure whether to trust anything on tripadvisor, but the company consistently gets high ratings. Other than on tripadvisor, I cannot find any commentary about the company.
After my week in Cartagena I had a night in Bogota before leaving home. I stayed in Cosmos 116. I can highly recommend it. A 4 Star hotel next to the unicentro. Safe area and fantastic rooms and service.
I was searching the web in my room and found Ana. Later she told me here real name is Diana. She quoted 200 K for 75 minutes including transport. In her advertisement she mentiond that she was a former Aguila girl. http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/ex-chica-aguila-modelo-paisa/122524/.
40 minutes later she was in front of my room. Okay not that hot, that I expected, but okay. Really big boobs and a big and firm butt.
We started with kissing and she gave me a nice BBBJ. After that, different positions. Everything was nice, she did everything I wanted, but nothing special. I think because she wasn't my type at all and because I'm spoiled by the two girls from Cartagena.
After a short rest we did a second round. At all again nothing special, although she was very committed. After that we talked a little bit and because she had no plans for the night asked me to go out with her to drink something. Because I was not tired at all, I decided to go with her. We hit to Bogota beer company almost next to the hotel. Because it was Friday the place was very crowded. We drank some beers and after a while she started kissing me. But I had no desire to stay with her more time so I deceided to go back to the hotel. She accompanied me. If I wanted, she would stayed for the night, because I could see, that see was sad, that I didn't invite her to stay. And she wrote me the next day, that she would like to stay and wanted to meet me again. Of course without money. Oh my god. These girls are really crazy.
At least I can summery from my Colombia trip, that you can have really nice times with girls in Colombia if you speak spanish and if you treat women well. A lot of them like to stay with you more days. I had a colombian wife so I know a little about the needs of colombian girls. For colombian girls it is extremely important that you are very polite. Than you can get all of them and you will get a fantastic service.
I will add pics of Ana / Diana at the photo gallery.
Eric The Prick
05-31-15, 07:43
After a month of Spanish lessons in Peru, I am transiting through Bogota to the Dominican Republic and Cuba. I am not young, Asian and have no sex for a month.
Living in Charlie's Place Hotel (Carrera 8 d 106-84), which is clean and not too expensive (COP150 k a night). Not sure it is GF friendly. (They have condoms in the room but I never like over-nights.).
Walked to the "Mezzanine massage shops" at the intersection at Calle 106 #15, which means the corner of Calle 106 and Carrera 15. It is confusing to call that "opposite to Dann Carlton Hotel" which is not exactly at the intersection. Walking out of the Hotel, you need to turn right, walk for 30 steps and go diagonally across the intersection. Then walk up the obvious stairs towards the shop selling drinks and snacks. The massage shops are on your right (some say the left takes you to the back). I walked into the last shop (no. 8) randomly and choose the matured "Bailadria" (spelling? No one came out to try to drag me in, as suggested by some other posts. Bailadria is 25-30, pretty with ample breasts and ass and tight pussy. My basic Spanish is hardly adequate nor necessary, because of the service / price chart on the wall. From my bad memory, 50 k for basic massage and HJ, 65 K for CBJ and 85 K for completo. Chose the last option. Basic massage, teasing and then CBJ. She did suck my balls for quite a while and let me play with her pussy and suck her tits. She seemed to enjoy it and even showed me where sensitive spots actually were. Anyway, fucked me slow then fast as requested and I finished in no time. No shame after a month without, I suppose. Afterward, more massage, hugs and kisses and then bye. She did not give me the full hour but then I am not complaining. Men just try to run away after ejeculations, don't we! Must be in the genes.
I shall go back tomorrow and try the other shops nearby. The cost to me is negligibly low.
I dare not try other knocking shops in the South, like Santa Fe, being a very careful (and gutless) lad. Anyway, may try later after some stiff drinks. But my real actions come later in the DR and Cuba.
I find Bogota expensive and tiring, with its food not to my liking and the need to take taxis all the time. Good after Peru though, but hard to compete with the two hour no hole barred continuous action in places like Tulip in Bangkok. But then I like Western women and South American Chicas are interesting rarities to me.
Will write more if have anything to report.
Adios,
E
Eric The Prick
06-01-15, 03:55
Thanks to the moderators for suggesting TransMilenia buses as a cheap alternative to taxis. Tried that today and I end up wandering North and South just to see the scenery. The lines are difficult for tourists to understand or navigate. Will try again tomorrow for Santa Fe.
Today, tried the first Mezzaninie massage shop on the left. This time I spent COP100 K for completo. Should have negotiate and there is no price or service schedule on the wall like No. 8 described before. Never mind. These shops do provide a safe and secure source of release in Bogota and I am grateful for it.
Some words on security. Two days ago a young and old pair pretended to be a tourist and policeman. The latter even showed me some sort of Police ID. After testing me out, the older gentleman asked to see my passport, saying might be I was in possession of drug or got into Colombia illegally. I patted him on the shoulder, said gracias, smiled and walked away. That was right in front of the Andino Centro Comercial, when I was searching for a beer. So be careful and do not take too much variables when walk about. These scams happen frequently in South America in general, I was told.
Remember they were trying to scam me and the whole things depends on my cooperation, believing in him being a policeman. No violence was attempted and it was not a robbery. May be I was lucky to be able to just walk away. If violence was involved however, I would have just emptied my pocket, given them what they wanted and then walked away, hopefully.
Adios,
E
Thanks to the moderators for suggesting TransMilenia buses as a cheap alternative to taxis. Tried that today and I end up wandering North and South just to see the scenery. The lines are difficult for tourists to understand or navigate. Will try again tomorrow for Santa Fe.
Today, tried the first Mezzaninie massage shop on the left. This time I spent COP100 K for completo. Should have negotiate and there is no price or service schedule on the wall like No. 8 described before. Never mind. These shops do provide a safe and secure source of release in Bogota and I am grateful for it.
Some words on security. Two days ago a young and old pair pretended to be a tourist and policeman. The latter even showed me some sort of Police ID. After testing me out, the older gentleman asked to see my passport, saying might be I was in possession of drug or got into Colombia illegally. I patted him on the shoulder, said gracias, smiled and walked away. That was right in front of the Andino Centro Comercial, when I was searching for a beer. So be careful and do not take too much variables when walk about. These scams happen frequently in South America in general, I was told...The TransMilenia are convenient but does take getting used to. The stop for Sante Fe is Calle 30.
How did you know the policeman was not real? What if he was? I am always unsure what to do in these situations. In Colombia, I am occasionally stopped at police checkpoints where there are a whole bunch of them so you are reasonable sure they are real.
Eric The Prick
06-02-15, 02:04
The TransMilenia are convenient but does take getting used to. The stop for Sante Fe is Calle 30.
How did you know the policeman was not real? What if he was? I am always unsure what to do in these situations. In Colombia, I am occasionally stopped at police checkpoints where there are a whole bunch of them so you are reasonable sure they are real.Well, just how I felt. His English was too good and the fact that the fake tourist tested me out first. Why did he want to see my passport and not the young guy's. I travel a lot and no one took much notice of a retired 60 year old Asian man. We simple do not take much risk. We are not the drug type and we do not abandon our good life and try to smuggle ourselves into Colombia. Anyway, I had to decide in a fraction of a second what to do and walking away seemed the only feasible decision at the time. If he is real, then he could have stopped me then. I shall show him my photocopy of the passport etc. Again, I only carry COP100 k (enough for one fuck and a meal). If he is into violence then it will be a different ballgame but con men con and do not like violence, right? It is easier for them to walk away and look for other easier victims as well.
E
Eric The Prick
06-05-15, 18:26
Used TransMilenia to go up and down Bogota the last three days. Simply go to any TransMilenia station and tell then the best you can that you want a ticket for three days (tarjeta durante tres dias). I paid COP18 k for 10 trips, which can be on buses from other companies as well. The rest involves getting used to the system and try things out. I had help of a smart phone, which has maps to tell me where I was, without using data roaming. The worst is some buses jump a few stops at a time, others stop everywhere.
Santa Fe is like a zoo (which I like). Have not partake but will try in later trips. Very safe in the morning, as suggested by others. Thanks again.
Havana and Sousa the next couple of weeks. Will report if I can.
Adios.
E
First question.
Where is the best place to exchange cash you $ dollars in Bogota. Bogota locals say near the Gold Museum you get the best exchange rates. In Medellin the Airport provided the best exchange rate.
Second question.
Is there any mongering in Candelaria district.
OppatPetter
06-08-15, 02:28
I spent some days in Bogota I stayed at the Holiday Inn hotel.
Their attention is good is comfortable wanted to have a little fun with a girl.
Because it was my first time and do not know a little research and I found.
With various agencies seems to me more secure, single look well so do not be fooled, I found.
With this agency eroticasbogota.com me seemed serious, beautiful girls real photos.
Made the reservation to mail that appears on the web, they responded immediately, ask Paola.
Speaks good English take care with her a whole day went out to tour the city was ideal for my vacation.
We went to lunch and then to the hotel, we have a great time, she is very beautiful and sexy, it was a very good experience.
I will come back in four months and booking with another of his girls again.
I spent some days in Bogota I stayed at the Holiday Inn hotel.
Their attention is good is comfortable wanted to have a little fun with a girl.
Because it was my first time and do not know a little research and I found.
With various agencies seems to me more secure, single look well so do not be fooled, I found.
With this agency eroticasbogota.com me seemed serious, beautiful girls real photos.
Made the reservation to mail that appears on the web, they responded immediately, ask Paola.
Speaks good English take care with her a whole day went out to tour the city was ideal for my vacation.
We went to lunch and then to the hotel, we have a great time, she is very beautiful and sexy, it was a very good experience.
I will come back in four months and booking with another of his girls again.I'm wondering what is the cost for you to take Paola out for the whole day? Also, does she offer BBBJ, DATY, CIM, COF all those service without extra charge?
World Travel 69
06-08-15, 14:56
Really, you did not see this.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kl47iMyOV2Ss
First question.
Where is the best place to exchange cash you $ dollars in Bogota. Bogota locals say near the Gold Museum you get the best exchange rates. In Medellin the Airport provided the best exchange rate.
Second question.
Is there any mongering in Candelaria district.
Really, you did not see this.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kl47iMyOV2SsDoes anyone know when was the last time this map was updated. I think a number of places in the Calle 40's and 50's have closed.
World Travel 69
06-09-15, 18:09
Since I am not there, it is hard to check out every place.
So, I have to update it when someone (You) tells me which places are closed or new ones that have opened.
So, you think places are closed. How do you know that. I hope you are there to tell us which ones.
Does anyone know when was the last time this map was updated. I think a number of places in the Calle 40's and 50's have closed.
Can anyone answer this please.
First question.
Where is the best place to exchange cash you $ dollars in Bogota. Bogota locals say near the Gold Museum you get the best exchange rates. In Medellin the Airport provided the best exchange rate.
Second question.
Is there any mongering in Candelaria district.
Hey guys,
I was wondering how much do chicas ask in brothels in norte of Bogota. I know its more then girls in Santa fe.
Thanks!
Hey guys,
I was wondering how much do chicas ask in brothels in norte of Bogota. I know its more then girls in Santa fe.
Thanks!Not really, spas in the north around calle 71, can be as low as 30 k for 20 mins, do your research in this thread and you will see. (If you are looking for a bar like in Santa Fe, to go stripping til fully nude, Pussy House in 61 going rate is 60 k Poker beer 4 K).
Thanks for the info.
Santa Fe is not really an option for me. I think its wiser for me to stay in the north, safer.
BusinessTrav
06-13-15, 03:13
Massagesinbogota dot com
Thanks for the info.
Santa Fe is not really an option for me. I think its wiser for me to stay in the north, safer.
Went to Lalosclub but was kinda dead. I have experience in st marten. Clubs like Carolinas.
I heard from a chica that Casanova is good. Can anyone give some info. It should also be in norte.
I'm transiting through Bogota for one night on my way to Ecuador tomorrow. Being a bit travel weary I wasn't in the mood to head out to any casas or MPs. So as I sometimes do, I called a girl from mileroticos. Of course there were tons of hot looking chicas on the site, and it's always a roll of the dice as you never know exactly who is going to show up at your door, but I've had unusually good luck in the past. Got a very good vibe on the phone from a girl who goes by the name of Anny. She was very sweet and accommodating. She showed up close to on time and my jaw dropped when I opened the door. To each his own, but by my tastes she was gorgeous, exactly what I was looking for. Perfect smooth cinnamon skin, spectacularly silky long black hair, a drop dead smile with perfect teeth, a great all natural body with ample breasts, and best of all a superb attitude. For a 20 year old, and she really looked about 20, she was amazingly talented in the sack. DFK, awesome BBBJ, sweet, sexy, no rush, and great rhythm. The view in reverse cowgirl and standing doggy with her gorgeous hair trailing down her back was an all timer. I gave her $100 US for the hour, and considered it a bargain for the convenience and the experience. If Bogota wasn't such a busy, noisy, crowded place, I'd make it a point to stay just to see her again.
I've got a few free hours tomorrow AM and have another girl lined up for an early session. She sounded just as sweet and fun as Anny on the phone so my hopes are high.
At Viajero11 your post is obviously promoting mileroticos.
I'm transiting through Bogota for one night on my way to Ecuador tomorrow. Being a bit travel weary I wasn't in the mood to head out to any casas or MPs. So as I sometimes do, I called a girl from mileroticos. Of course there were tons of hot looking chicas on the site, and it's always a roll of the dice as you never know exactly who is going to show up at your door, but I've had unusually good luck in the past. Got a very good vibe on the phone from a girl who goes by the name of Anny. She was very sweet and accommodating. She showed up close to on time and my jaw dropped when I opened the door. To each his own, but by my tastes she was gorgeous, exactly what I was looking for. Perfect smooth cinnamon skin, spectacularly silky long black hair, a drop dead smile with perfect teeth, a great all natural body with ample breasts, and best of all a superb attitude. For a 20 year old, and she really looked about 20, she was amazingly talented in the sack. DFK, awesome BBBJ, sweet, sexy, no rush, and great rhythm. The view in reverse cowgirl and standing doggy with her gorgeous hair trailing down her back was an all timer. I gave her $100 US for the hour, and considered it a bargain for the convenience and the experience. If Bogota wasn't such a busy, noisy, crowded place, I'd make it a point to stay just to see her again.
I've got a few free hours tomorrow AM and have another girl lined up for an early session. She sounded just as sweet and fun as Anny on the phone so my hopes are high.
Dingske2828
06-17-15, 19:55
Hi,
I'm going to Bogota in a few days, and I'd like to take an escort (or someone else) to my room. But contrary to Bangkok, this seems to be a problem here? I planned to stay in Movich Buro 26, close to the airport, but they do not seem to be open to accepting any 'guests'.
Is my information wrong, or what should I expect if I bring a girl to the hotel?
Which hotels are actually 'girl-friendly'?
Thanks for any feedback.
D
Nope. Not promoting mileroticos at all. I've just had very good luck with the site in various cities in Latin America. You can check my other posts that mention various casas, termas, prives, independent providers, etc. None of which I'm promoting. Just trying to share some information that may be useful to others. So at the risk of sounding like I'm really promoting mileroticos, I had a morning date today in Bogota with another girl from the site. Sofia, a young and very cute girl, showed up right on time. Like Anny last night, she was sweet, fun, affectionate, a little on the chunky side but in a very sexy way, killer smile, and provided very good service, including a sweet BBBJ. 150 CP for the hour. Of course, ymmv, and I've almost never met a website girl who spoke English so decent Spanish is a must.
Regarding chica friendly hotels, I stayed at the Casa Dann Carlton where I had made a reservation for two. No problems. I just made sure each girl showed up with discreet attire and an ID. The friendly staff even called me when she arrived to make sure it was ok. No, I'm not promoting the Casa Dann Carlton. I stayed there because it's the only hotel I could find in Bogota that has an indoor pool long enough to do laps, and I'm an avid swimmer.
Dann Carlton is guest-friendly. However, if you are choosing to stay near the airport then just know the Dann Carlton is north Bogota about 30 minutes from the airport. And that's assuming no traffic. 45 minutes to an hour with traffic which is terrible in Bogota during rush hour.
The thing to know about hotels is that a lot of it comes down to you and your guest, along with the hotel itself. How big is the lobby? Where are the elevators located (near main entrance and close to front desk or is it more discreet and you can get by without the front desk seeing you?) Nevertheless, I'd recommend booking the reservation for 2 guests. If you walk in with your amiga, you'll probably just have to register her. Whether your hotel charges for extra guests, it depends on their policy but that's why it's best to book for 2 guests.
I was in Bogota this past weekend and stayed at a hotel in Zona Rosa. Booked a reservation for 2 guests. Walked in a couple times with different girls, the security guard asked the guest to register at the front desk which took her ID, made a copy, gave it back, asked me to sign off on it and off to the room. It didn't bother me, and there was no guest charge. It's slightly annoying having to go through that process, but it's more secure for the front desk to have the chicas info and ID copy in the case something highly unlikely happens and there's a need to reference that information. Bogota has LOTS of hotels, some have more lax policies than others. I'd also advise to stay in the area you'd like to stay in and feel most comfortable in. I like Zona Rosa and felt most comfortable there. Further south might have more lax guest policies, but I don't care much about that. Book for 2 guests, make sure the girl doesn't dress or smell like it's obvious, and you should be fine. Escorts typically know how to dress when asked to go to a hotel. They're not idiots. Enjoy your trip.
Hi,
I'm going to Bogota in a few days, and I'd like to take an escort (or someone else) to my room. But contrary to Bangkok, this seems to be a problem here? I planned to stay in Movich Buro 26, close to the airport, but they do not seem to be open to accepting any 'guests'.
Is my information wrong, or what should I expect if I bring a girl to the hotel?
Which hotels are actually 'girl-friendly'?
Thanks for any feedback.
D
Sup guys. Had some fun in lidos in norte of Bogota. Here a little thanks for info.
NiagaraFalls
06-24-15, 15:59
This is my first post here. I would like to share as all of you do. I have been going to Colombia for 10 years now and have meet some great women there. I am starting my first post with a story about a women I have know there for 5 or 6 years. We meet through some friends and became friends. She was in university and I would take her out and give she some money to help with school (200 hundred US). After some time it became a regular thing. We would go out for a night or a couple of hours when I was in Bogota have dinner and always sex at the end of the night or sex at the start of the evening. She was always ready and willing. Great sex very girlfriend like. You know the sex you have when you fist start dating. She really enjoys giving oral sex and if you cum that's not a problem she will get you hard again. As for the sex she has the smallest most beautiful pussy, you don, t fine that everyday. If I had to say how she looked like I would say Cindy Crawford. She also speaks English which is a great help to me, I will bring her with me for work sometime and she will translate for me. I can speak bad Spanish so she is an asset for me. The last time I seen her she told me that she is now doing this with other business men and making money. She went to school for business so she learned, smart girl. I have meet many beautiful women over the years in Colombia but she has to be one of the best. This is my post hope it is enjoyed. I will write more in the future. I am happy to answer any question or help anyone with Colombia. Been going for 10 years and had zero problems.
Been finding really cute girls at different strolls 18-19-20 YO and Hot Milfs too! Paying $25.000 to $50.000 Depending on extras like BBJs and going in raw for a bit.
At Puntz79.
A traveler should know that different language has a different spellings for the same word.
I want to leave this at RTFF, but. Look at the maps, World Travel 69 pretty much has everything down with this maps. There is so much in there and for different parts of Bogota, from Santa Fe to Zona Rosa, to other parts of this huge city.
How's your spanish? If decent, you can have a very good time as opposed to someone who doesn't speak spanish and would stand out and risk not having a good time. As for logistics, you should really make sure you have your trip planned well. Bogota is a big city, there's lots to do, lots to see, and you want to be sure about where you are where you're going etc. As for where to stay, go with somewhere in Zona Rosa / Parque 93 if you want to be in a good, safe area. Santa Fe is risky, let's just put it that way. It does not mean you're going to have something bad happen to you, but if you are by yourself and it's your first time I'd advise you to pick another area and visit Santa Fe during the day. Check the maps for bars and casas.
Also, it's Colombia (not Columbia). Minor thing but really, as I work with Colombians I've come to discover that they can be annoyed when the name of their country is misspelled and I agree. The name is a part of their identity, so get it right as that's the least thing you can do. Yes you can find a few Asians, and mixed Asia, but it's not that easy and you should keep your expectations in check about finding them. You are in Latin America after all.
Where is the best place to exchange cash USD in Bogota?
Can anyone answer this please.
At Puntz79.
A traveler should know that different language has a different spellings for the same word.The poster I was responding to was speaking english, and was doing it in the Bogota section of the Colombia Forum. Not the Columbia Forum. Or the Kolombia Forum. Or the Kohlumbiah forum. Colombia is the name of the country.
Also, after 3 weeks you are still asking where the best place to exchange your $ in a huge city of 12 million is. Did you attempt to to RTFF? Even if you did, how could you not spend any time googling this in the last 3 weeks? Seriously?
If I had a clue where the best place is to exchange cash you $ Dollars in Bogota is I would not ask here. It does not matter how many people live in a city. There are mostly only 2 options banks or private exchange. I'm surprised that no one know here.
Google and many other search engines are about commerce.
The poster I was responding to was speaking english, and was doing it in the Bogota section of the Colombia Forum. Not the Columbia Forum. Or the Kolombia Forum. Or the Kohlumbiah forum. Colombia is the name of the country.
Also, after 3 weeks you are still asking where the best place to exchange your $ in a huge city of 12 million is. Did you attempt to to RTFF? Even if you did, how could you not spend any time googling this in the last 3 weeks? Seriously?
LatinaLover#1
07-02-15, 21:14
If I had a clue where the best place is to exchange cash you $ Dollars in Bogota is I would not ask here. It does not matter how many people live in a city. There are mostly only 2 options banks or private exchange. I'm surprised that no one know here.
Google and many other search engines are about commerce.My recent stay was in Chico navarra, right next to Banco Colombia. I only changed $200 at the airport cambio thinking the rate at the bank would be better. Not so. At the airport I got 2400 something and at the bank I got 2200 something. I usually go to the cambios in the mall, seems like I get the best there. In some countries like Coast Rica the bank is the way to go but in Colombia it is probably the last place to go, bad rate, long lines and a lot of red tape. Also in Rio the cambios pay much better. Most likely because it's the best way for the mob in Rio to launder money. A sure sign your in a mob cambio in Rio is there are no armed guards at the door. You go to the bank and they lock the door behind you and have guards with Uzzi's, the mob uses a jewelry store with one little old guy sitting at the counter. Go figure!
LatinaLover#1,
Thanks that was very helpful I remember getting the quickest service and the best rate at the Medellin airport.
Downtown Medellin the casa de cambios would charge omission and the banks were slow. In Costa Rica Scotia bank has the best rates specially if you have euros. In Brazil private people offered the best exchange rate.
My recent stay was in Chico navarra, right next to Banco Colombia. I only changed $200 at the airport cambio thinking the rate at the bank would be better. Not so. At the airport I got 2400 something and at the bank I got 2200 something. I usually go to the cambios in the mall, seems like I get the best there. In some countries like Coast Rica the bank is the way to go but in Colombia it is probably the last place to go, bad rate, long lines and a lot of red tape. Also in Rio the cambios pay much better. Most likely because it's the best way for the mob in Rio to launder money. A sure sign your in a mob cambio in Rio is there are no armed guards at the door. You go to the bank and they lock the door behind you and have guards with Uzzi's, the mob uses a jewelry store with one little old guy sitting at the counter. Go figure!
BatInTheCity
07-05-15, 15:04
If I had a clue where the best place is to exchange cash you $ Dollars in Bogota is I would not ask here. It does not matter how many people live in a city. There are mostly only 2 options banks or private exchange. I'm surprised that no one know here.
Google and many other search engines are about commerce.Third floor in the Andino Mall, zone rosa, Bogota, I found a money exchange place. I think it was New York Money. Something like that. Very good rate of 2400 to the dollar. So I agree the malls are better for your dollar changing. Forget the banks, long lines, red tape, etc. And a lot of banks don't change money.
A local just gave me this link and told me that the malls use this rate +-100 pesos.
http://www.colombia.com/cambio_moneda/
Third floor in the Andino Mall, zone rosa, Bogota, I found a money exchange place. I think it was New York Money. Something like that. Very good rate of 2400 to the dollar. So I agree the malls are better for your dollar changing. Forget the banks, long lines, red tape, etc. And a lot of banks don't change money.
While in Bogota on a Wednesday evening I looked at the map that W-T-69 maintains and decided to visit the 'chica 2000' casa. That is close to calle 72. The address on the map is correct. This is in a residencial neighborhood. Across from it is another casa that I did not go to but based on the map, it is cheaper in price. I walked in to the house and there were six girls sitting in the front patio. You can not see them from the street. Two of them seem to be fine and rest I did not like. So I decided to take my chance in spite of not having a good feeling about the place. The charge is 120 k for one hour. I selected Tatiana. There are few room downstairs and four rooms upstairs. We went upstairs. There was no shower either in the room or outside of the room. There were two washrooms. May be the showers are downstairs. The room had a bed. It was neither dirty nor clean. Just barely adequate. Although the girl was nice and friendly, in the room she wanted to upsell for other stuff but I am neither used to it and nor like the idea of negotiating. I talked to her a bit. It was interesting when she said most of the customers are Chinese and Japanese. I finished the session early as I did not like the room with no shower and was not that interested in her either. Overall, if you care about quality of the place and the chicas, you won't find it here. I won't go back to this place and won't recommend it either.
World Travel 69
07-21-15, 23:30
Too bad across the street has a better selection.
I am sure the prices are most likely a little higher than I have posted.
Calle 71 #14 A-24.30 Chicas in Shifts. Prices: 40 k 20 min. , 50 k 30 min. , 70 k hour. Tel: 249 2927,312 5074. Hours: 9 am to 3 am.
While in Bogota on a Wednesday evening I looked at the map that W-T-69 maintains and decided to visit the 'chica 2000' casa. That is close to calle 72. The address on the map is correct. This is in a residencial neighborhood. Across from it is another casa that I did not go to but based on the map, it is cheaper in price. I walked in to the house and there were six girls sitting in the front patio. You can not see them from the street. Two of them seem to be fine and rest I did not like. So I decided to take my chance in spite of not having a good feeling about the place. The charge is 120 k for one hour. I selected Tatiana. There are few room downstairs and four rooms upstairs. We went upstairs. There was no shower either in the room or outside of the room. There were two washrooms. May be the showers are downstairs. The room had a bed. It was neither dirty nor clean. Just barely adequate. Although the girl was nice and friendly, in the room she wanted to upsell for other stuff but I am neither used to it and nor like the idea of negotiating. I talked to her a bit. It was interesting when she said most of the customers are Chinese and Japanese. I finished the session early as I did not like the room with no shower and was not that interested in her either. Overall, if you care about quality of the place and the chicas, you won't find it here. I won't go back to this place and won't recommend it either.
Too bad across the street has a better selection.
I am sure the prices are most likely a little higher than I have posted.
Calle 71 #14 A-24.30 Chicas in Shifts. Prices: 40 k 20 min. , 50 k 30 min. , 70 k hour. Tel: 249 2927,312 5074. Hours: 9 am to 3 am.Really? I was aware of the other case but I went to 'chica 2000' thinking it must be a better / cleaner / higher quality place. Thanks for maintaining the map.
While in Bogota on a Wednesday evening I looked at the map that W-T-69 maintains and decided to visit the 'chica 2000' casa. That is close to calle 72. The address on the map is correct..Can you point me to the map?
I'll be at the JW Marriott, which I presume will not be chica friendly. Since there will be other people I know at the hotel, I'm also not too excited about bringing a girl up to the desk and registering her. Which mean I am left with finding Casas / in call locations.
I am hoping to find a good place close the the JW Marriott, since I am a little nervous about walking a long distance having not been to Bogota / Columbia before.
Appreciate any suggestions / advice.
World Travel 69
07-23-15, 15:15
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists
The Marriott is a long way from anything. http://www.bing.com/local?lid=YN8041x11295453406612811837&id=YN8041x11295453406612811837&q=JW+Marriott+Hotel+Bogota+Bogota+Capital+District&name=JW+Marriott+Hotel+Bogota&cp=4.581264~-74.1667
Can you point me to the map?
I'll be at the JW Marriott, which I presume will not be chica friendly. Since there will be other people I know at the hotel, I'm also not too excited about bringing a girl up to the desk and registering her. Which mean I am left with finding Casas / in call locations.
I am hoping to find a good place close the the JW Marriott, since I am a little nervous about walking a long distance having not been to Bogota / Columbia before.
Appreciate any suggestions / advice.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists
The Marriott is a long way from anything. http://www.bing.com/local?lid=YN8041x11295453406612811837&id=YN8041x11295453406612811837&q=JW+Marriott+Hotel+Bogota+Bogota+Capital+District&name=JW+Marriott+Hotel+Bogota&cp=4.581264~-74.1667Disagree, there is plenty of action near the JW on 73. Chicas milenio and chicas 2000 are only 15 minutes walk away, several other agencias in a 5 minute walking radio from there, Pussy House is a 5-7 minute taxi ride from the JWMarriott, several higher class agencies are 15-20 minute walk away.
I know that area very well it is my playground. Sammi123, if you are a member message me, will steer you right.
World Travel 69
07-24-15, 02:01
I know better than that.
I looked at the Bing Map which has it in the wrong place.
Yes, Chicas Milenio and Chicas 2000 are the ones I walk to the most.
Disagree, there is plenty of action near the JW on 73. Chicas Milenio and Chicas 2000 are only 15 minutes walk away, several other agencias in a 5 minute walking radio from there, Pussy House is a 5-7 minute taxi ride from the JWMarriott, several higher class agencies are 15-20 minute walk away.
I know that area very well it is my playground. Sammi123, if you are a member message me, will steer you right.
BusinessTrav
08-03-15, 03:43
The JW Marriott is escort friendly, and you don't have to register the girl before 10 pm. For a first timer in Bogota I would definitely not go to any incall locations. Outcall services are the best if you are travelling for business.
Can you point me to the map?
I'll be at the JW Marriott, which I presume will not be chica friendly. Since there will be other people I know at the hotel, I'm also not too excited about bringing a girl up to the desk and registering her. Which mean I am left with finding Casas / in call locations.
I am hoping to find a good place close the the JW Marriott, since I am a little nervous about walking a long distance having not been to Bogota / Columbia before.
Appreciate any suggestions / advice.
BusinessTrav
08-03-15, 03:47
There is a mall called Granahorrar. There you will find very good exchange rates. There are various options there. But probably the best rate you can get is taking money from the ATM Machine.
Where is the best place to exchange cash USD in Bogota?
Can anyone answer this please.
LovingHotWomen
08-03-15, 03:52
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Hi,
Excuse my ignorance, but I'm battling to find the maps often referred to.
I'll be visiting Bogota for the first time soon and will be based in the La Gran Via area, Calle 99 I think.
Any advice or recommendations?
Thanks
World Travel 69
08-03-15, 15:37
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists
Hi,
Excuse my ignorance, but I'm battling to find the maps often referred to.
I'll be visiting Bogota for the first time soon and will be based in the La Gran Via area, Calle 99 I think.
Any advice or recommendations?
Thanks
?....But probably the best rate you can get is taking money from the ATM Machine.May not be the best rate but would it be a competitive good rate and very convenient as most Colombian ATM accept most major US ATM networks. I always take my COlombian cash out of the ATMs.
The JW Marriott is escort friendly, and you don't have to register the girl before 10 pm. For a first timer in Bogota I would definitely not go to any incall locations. Outcall services are the best if you are travelling for business.Is a matter of how comfortable you feel in Bogota, how well you blend in, your Spanish, how adventurer you are and how much you want to spend. I agree that outcall service may be the best option IF you get the right girl, attitude and service, but that can be tricky unless you get a solid recommendation or can read the locals revuews. It is however one of the most expensive options (Yes I know cheap considering US standards). But if you are looking for a quick, cheap and decent fuck, where you can pick the girl, and feel comfortable "exploring", then incall is the way to go. Both instances are a hit and miss, but if budget is not an issue I agree outcall may be a better option, BUT that is for first timers or seasoned visitors (depending on my mood, I may do an outcall). I definitely would not recommend a first timer to go to Santa Fe alone, unless of course you blend in, act as you belong and have good spidey senses. Knowing Spanish is always a big plus. All this my opinin of course.
Is a matter of how comfortable you feel in Bogota, how well you blend in, your Spanish, how adventurer you are and how much you want to spend. I agree that outcall service may be the best option IF you get the right girl, attitude and service, but that can be tricky unless you get a solid recommendation or can read the locals revuews. It is however one of the most expensive options (Yes I know cheap considering US standards). But if you are looking for a quick, cheap and decent fuck, where you can pick the girl, and feel comfortable "exploring", then incall is the way to go. Both instances are a hit and miss, but if budget is not an issue I agree outcall may be a better option, BUT that is for first timers or seasoned visitors (depending on my mood, I may do an outcall). I definitely would not recommend a first timer to go to Santa Fe alone, unless of course you blend in, act as you belong and have good spidey senses. Knowing Spanish is always a big plus. All this my opinin of course.Please inform me about the plusses and minuses of Sante Fe. Safe, not safe, use common sense etc. I am 50, speak Spanish and Anglo Saxon.
Please inform me about the plusses and minuses of Sante Fe. Safe, not safe, use common sense etc. I am 50, speak Spanish and Anglo Saxon.Enough has been writeen about Santa Fe, opinions differ.
In MY opinion.
Pros,
Plenty of girls, good selection, good rates, convenient all in a 2-3 block radio.
Cons.
Unsafe (don't have to look for trouble, trouble may find you).
Plenty of girls and selection and good rates elsewhere in Bogota (but have to know where to go).
Higly likely the girl will rush you as there is more business to make, same applies elsewhere, but more so in Santa Fe.
Recommendations:
If first time visitor, go during the day for your first time to Santa Fe. Get to know the lay of the land.
Dress down, try to blend in.
The obvious, use of common sense.
In MY opinion, it is safer to get in and out via the transmillenio, you are in a crowd no alone. Transmilenio however stops running late at night I believe.
Unless you know the person Trust Nobody.
Please inform me about the plusses and minuses of Sante Fe. Safe, not safe, use common sense etc. I am 50, speak Spanish and Anglo Saxon.Most people will say Santa Fe is not safe. In my very first trip to Colombia, Bogota was a stopover and I decided to avoid Santa Fe due to reading about it being unsafe. My very next trip which had me in Bogota for 3 days, I decided to check it out after talking to people who had good experience.
Pros. Lots of choices. From the girls in the daytime clubs, the street motels, and nightclubs, you can see all types. I thought Atunes was excellent and daytime selection was fantastic, plenty of 7's and 8's, and even a few 9's here and there. For daytime action, it's hard to beat. In the evening, it really varies. La Piscina has some good looking ones, as does Paisas. I personally thought the best looking chicas (my opinion) was at El Castillo. It is also on the higher end cost wise, but overall I consider Santa Fe to be good for the cost. I tried other clubs in Zona Rosa and Park 93 area, but the selection of girls was downright disappointing as compared to Santa Fe. I hit up the mezzanine massage parlors near the Dann Carlton, some cute ones there. However I did have one not so good experience there, but I'd go back to try some of the other chicas. Anyways, back to Santa Fe.
Cons. Safety, if you really don't know what you're doing and are not going to act normal and nervous at all times, then this would be a problem. Santa Fe is not big, but I highly recommend looking at a map and knowing the streets you need to go to. I took the Transmilenio, you will see El Castillo become visible as it's the closest club to the TM stop. Get off at the stop and walk down. 2 blocks, look at the maps on here. They are very accurate. Stick to the two-three blocks, do not venture out further as you get into tranny territory. Don't carry your wallet in your back. I was walking from the TM stop to Santa Fe and noticed an Indian guy with a fat wallet in the back pocket that was about as subtle as a baboon's ass. He also looked around like he thought he knew where he was going, but it was obvious that wasn't the case. People like that become instant targets for wandering eyes, and in Santa Fe there are plenty of them. I had a good conversation with a bouncer that works at Whiskey California (I think that's the name) and he told me Santa Fe is not safe past 10 PM. Why? Because you don't know anyone around here. There are lots of people walking around who are simply looking for vulnerable visitors. And while others might say differently, I would not take a taxi from Santa Fe. There are some hookers who basically don't have the best of intentions, and might offer to call a cab for you who is waiting close to the motel. I'd avoid this. Take the Transmilenio, or call for a cab yourself. My personal experience with Santa Fe was that I can see why people would say it's unsafe. I was there during the daytime, when it was OK safety wise. And I was there at night, when there were still plenty of people walking around. I did not have any negative experiences, nor run ins, I act like I know where I'm going, and I don't make an effort to stand out. The latest I was there was 11 PM. I don't know how it is past that time, but I stuck to the three blocks, and I did not feel any danger. I also did not drink, and was fully aware at all times. If someone has a drink or has lost some ability in awareness, then that would be an issue. So in my opinion, I can't say it was dangerous for me but I can see why others can and I'd always recommend to play it safe. If you're there in the daytime, no need to worry. If you're there are night, once you get into 11 PM onwards, the sketchiness increases with lots of wandering eyes and if you pay attention to detail as I do, you'll be able to spot those who are walking around in a groups of 2 or 3 just looking for people. If you use common sense, you can have a great time. Santa Fe does have some very good options and I think the value is excellent.
Santa Fe is not safe. I've seen guys doing bumps in the bathroom, brawls on the street with guys getting stabbed with broken bottles / lots of blood loss, and of course the usual pickpockets.
That said I do enjoy a quick drop into Atunes or a night at Paisas every once in a while to see if there's any new talent worth inviting out the following day.
As far as taxis go. Never had an issue grabbing one randomly at day or night. Knock on wood then again I make sure to only travel with cash and ID.
Please inform me about the plusses and minuses of Sante Fe. Safe, not safe, use common sense etc. I am 50, speak Spanish and Anglo Saxon.Thank you everyone for your replies. I don't believe Santa Fe will be on my agenda.
World Travel 69
08-06-15, 23:39
Go in the day light.
There are lots of chicas in front of the short time motel / Hotels.
Thank you everyone for your replies. I don't believe Santa Fe will be on my agenda.
The JW Marriott is escort friendly, and you don't have to register the girl before 10 pm. For a first timer in Bogota I would definitely not go to any incall locations. Outcall services are the best if you are travelling for business.BusinessTrav thanks for the advice. Yes, I have noticed that no one is stopping you bringing someone up with you in the JW Marriott. Does seem to be perfect for outcall. What advice do you have in terms of reliable places to call for outcall. My spanish is so so, so the person answering would need to be able to converse at least some in English.
I put it on the map.
Carrera 14 #79-70 Piso 2. 10+ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: (1) 476 51 00, Cell 313 334 20 13. Hours: _ https://www.facebook.com/colorin.spa.7?fref=ts.
They list two others on this site. http://serviciosprepagos.com/colorin-spa-sala-de-masajes-tematica/?age-verified=1601e638c8
I Had the wrong address for Apsolut Spa.
Carrera 16 # 80-66. 20 Chicas. Prices: Massage 30k, 200k Complete. Tel: 611 2518, 611 2603. Hours: Monday to Friday 10:00 a.m. to 8:30 p.m., Saturdays: 10:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., Sunday and holidays: 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. http://www.absolutspa.comThanks Wt69 checked in today at saint Simon, great place, went to colorin spa after check in another great advice, 8 girls took Vanessa, hot 23 yr old (25) LOL awesome service ok massage, had the circle bed room, great BBBJ finger pussy ass loves her ass fingered, overall great experience! I'm here another 9 days! I love this place already, prob going to a place called la mansion, looks expensive but WTF, then prob check out pussy house! Got a great feel about Bogota so far.
Thanks to excellent advice from Toreador I went to Chicas 2000.
Saw a stunning redhead there (Jennifer) . Actually saw her twice. She gives a very nice CBJ and the sex was good, though I didn't go for any extras (which she will do). Most of all I found her to be exceptionally hot (a 9) and was very friendly. Highly recommend.
As a first timer, with so-so Spanish, I felt very comfortable at Chicas 2000. I wanted to try Chicas Milenio as well but it seemed to be closed.
It was a short (10-15 min) and safe and easy walk from the JW Marriott. JW Marriott also seems to be Chica friendly for outcall, and I recommend it as a great place to stay. I just didn't feel comfortable in Santa Fe, and I personally do not think it is a good option for first timers, especially if your Spanish is not excellent and you cannot blend in.
The key with Santa Fe is to just not dress up and flash any type of wealth, and just blend in (know where you are going). Even if you miss a turn or two, don't stop to look at your cell phone out in the open. You can get inside one of the small restaurants / stores and do that more discreetly. I don't think Santa Fe is really that much more unsafe than any other red-light district in the world. But I haven't stayed past 11 PM anyways, in the early evening hours between 7 and 10 PM I didn't have any issues going club to club, stopping by somewhere for some street food etc. , going inside a store to get a pack of gum etc. I also wasn't dressed out in clothes making it seem like I was going out to the club either. T-shirt with light jacket on top, jeans, casual walking shoes. No watch visible, no designer stuff. One Plus One smartphone in one pocket that I didn't pull out, and money clip with ID in another pocket (both in front of course) and I just walk as if I know where I'm going. I did miss a turn during my very first time which was during the day, and I noticed it as soon as I noticed the increasing amount of trannies. Went inside a restaurant to use the restroom, pulled out my phone, checked directions, put my phone back in and then went on my way towards the right street. That's when I realize that Santa Fe (the place you are looking for) is not that big of an area, you can walk around it in 5-7 minutes probably if you don't stop anywhere. During the daytime and in the evening, there are just lots of people walking around and you'll see cops not too far in the distance.
So again, while Santa Fe is definitely not the safest part of Bogota, I do think that some of the danger is being hyped up a bit much. That's not to say one should not be cautious, above everything you must use common sense and don't take a chance on not being cautious. But daytime and early evening, if you take the suggestions above. You'll be OK. The worst thing I ever saw happening in the 3-4 times I went there, just a lot of homeless people walking around and a lot of eyes looking for pockets to pick. I did not see anyone getting shot, people bleeding everywhere, robberies taking place, drug deals going down everywhere, and police chasing after criminals. As you might believe by reading some of the posts on Santa Fe. I also did not look for that either, but my sense of awareness is very good. Bumps in the restroom of clubs, OK. Sure that happens. But I certainly didn't feel like my level of security was greatly reduced because of what might be going on in a restroom. The one other thing I'd add is, make sure you know where your drink is coming from and don't leave your drink alone.
Sunset Strip
08-10-15, 23:54
Stopped by Gaticas in Chapeneiro twice today between 12 and 2 pm. Only three women working, though the lady-man who works the lounge area claimed there were more. I dislike her, or he, or whatever. The place is a dive bar. She, or he, will not let you wait to see if you want to partake. It is beer or chica as soon as you walk in. Worthless spot.
I then headed down the street towards the church near Bar 64. I block from it is a little spot with 2 chicas run by the same people as 64. Both were 5's. I took the MILF Vanessa. 25 K. Nothing special. But no hassles and quiet spot.
SS
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The key with Santa Fe is to just not dress up and flash any type of wealth, and just blend in (know where you are going). Even if you miss a turn or two, don't stop to look at your cell phone out in the open. You can get inside one of the small restaurants / stores and do that more discreetly. I don't think Santa Fe is really that much more unsafe than any other red-light district in the world. But I haven't stayed past 11 PM anyways, in the early evening hours between 7 and 10 PM I didn't have any issues going club to club, stopping by somewhere for some street food etc. , going inside a store to get a pack of gum etc. I also wasn't dressed out in clothes making it seem like I was going out to the club either. T-shirt with light jacket on top, jeans, casual walking shoes. No watch visible, no designer stuff. One Plus One smartphone in one pocket that I didn't pull out, and money clip with ID in another pocket (both in front of course) and I just walk as if I know where I'm going. I did miss a turn during my very first time which was during the day, and I noticed it as soon as I noticed the increasing amount of trannies. Went inside a restaurant to use the restroom, pulled out my phone, checked directions, put my phone back in and then went on my way towards the right street. That's when I realize that Santa Fe (the place you are looking for) is not that big of an area, you can walk around it in 5-7 minutes probably if you don't stop anywhere. During the daytime and in the evening, there are just lots of people walking around and you'll see cops not too far in the distance..Never felt in danger once, after reading all the hype I went to see for myself, it was Sunday around 4 pm every club was dead had a few beers I'm glad I stuck around around 6-7 pm still no body bisy except for troya got packed real quick around 50-60 girls lots of nice talent, I got quick (20 min) BBBJ from Angie (or close to that name) from Cali , 45 k total, I tried to stick around to see the good reviews about a tun but they never got busy, I think it was a Sunday thing?
Yup, Sunday's are quiet and if I'm not mistaken a couple of the clubs are not open that day. If you go on a Friday / Saturday it can be pretty busy. I don't mind a quiet Sunday. The hype on danger is hype. Enough people talk about it, make it look like the worst thing, who knows what is true and what isn't, but people will eventually convince themselves that if they do go they're going to end up in a bad situation. But I just don't think the area is any more dangerous than sketchy parts of Detroit or Chicago or DC, etc. And you make it more dangerous for yourself if you aren't smart and don't use common sense. Santa Fe is right there from the TransMilenio, you can see El Castillo as the bus approaches the stop and from there you pretty much head towards that and there you go. Still, I have had girls tell me that Santa Fe is dangerous after 9 PM and I found it to be OK until 11 PM. But first timers should try the daytime first and perhaps come back and try out the early evening. That's what I did and worked out without any issues. And some of the talent in Santa Fe such as Atunes during the day is totally worth it. In the evening I found El Castillo to have the best talent, but also the most expensive.
Never felt in danger once, after reading all the hype I went to see for myself, it was Sunday around 4 pm every club was dead had a few beers I'm glad I stuck around around 6-7 pm still no body bisy except for troya got packed real quick around 50-60 girls lots of nice talent, I got quick (20 min) BBBJ from Angie (or close to that name) from Cali , 45 k total, I tried to stick around to see the good reviews about a tun but they never got busy, I think it was a Sunday thing?
What is a nice place to stay with girls somewhat close. I am assuming Sante Fe is not a place I want a hotel. I would like the action to be somewhat close but what do you recommend and clearly girl friendly and approx rates. Anything similar to the Mansion in Medallion? ID kill for an arrangement or situation like that. Also have you noticed prices went up since the dollar started getting better? Or is it a true value and we get more for our money? I know hotel rates sometimes follow the rise and fall of the dollar to local currency. Any help would be great. Trying to come in town within the next week. Total newbie to the area but not to the scene or the country.
Stopped by Gaticas in Chapeneiro twice today between 12 and 2 pm. Only three women working, though the lady-man who works the lounge area claimed there were more. I dislike her, or he, or whatever. The place is a dive bar. She, or he, will not let you wait to see if you want to partake. It is beer or chica as soon as you walk in. Worthless spot.
I then headed down the street towards the church near Bar 64. I block from it is a little spot with 2 chicas run by the same people as 64. Both were 5's. I took the MILF Vanessa. 25 K. Nothing special. But no hassles and quiet spot.
SSWent by mezzanines kr15-103 a cross from Dan Carlton hotel, like 4-5 massage places on second floor, good choices fun little spot, had a 19 yr old, made her put on sexy mask hanging on wall and suck me off BBBJ cum in mouth, 85 k, I'm enjoying daytime action here, but having trouble with night action, went to the forty 49 cr 1393-83, junk total ripoff, lalos car15 88-33 junk rip off, Casanova and la piscina calle 86 a 14-45, junk total rip off girls quoting 90 us to leave 300 USA For them, am I missing something? Wrong nights? I'm here 6 more nights, looking for night club atmosphere with music and working girls running around! Please help.
Read the forums, there's a lot of info. Take a look at World Travel 69's maps, they're very helpful and you can figure out a nice hotel from there. On girl friendly it's going to be a hit or miss, if you're discrete you can get by. All hotels are "girl-friendly" but it's a matter of them charging you for your extra guest or not. A few will just require them to register and you don't get charged, while others will ask you to pay a fee for every girl. Dann Carlton is in a pretty good location and is girl friendly.
Do not stay in or near Santa Fe, especially as a newbie. As for rates, it takes a little bit of time for those things to catch up to the market rates. I have not heard of anything changing on the ground as of yet. A few weeks from now, who knows. Even if prices went up a little bit, you're still able to negotiate and it's still a very good value as compared to other places.
What is a nice place to stay with girls somewhat close. I am assuming Sante Fe is not a place I want a hotel. I would like the action to be somewhat close but what do you recommend and clearly girl friendly and approx rates. Anything similar to the Mansion in Medallion? ID kill for an arrangement or situation like that. Also have you noticed prices went up since the dollar started getting better? Or is it a true value and we get more for our money? I know hotel rates sometimes follow the rise and fall of the dollar to local currency. Any help would be great. Trying to come in town within the next week. Total newbie to the area but not to the scene or the country.
Hey guys,
Apologies if I'm posting this in the wrong place, this is my first post on the forum. I'm pretty new to the P4P scene, although I've lived in Colombia for a few years and have done very well with the regular women. Anyway, I'm in Bogota for the week, and would like to check out Santa Fe with somebody who has a bit more experience with this stuff (I'm under the impression it's a bad idea to roll there solo). I'm a cool dude, white American, early 30's, fluent Spanish. If anyone is up for a night out I'd be more than than happy to buy the beers!
Cheers
What is a nice place to stay with girls somewhat close. I am assuming Sante Fe is not a place I want a hotel. I would like the action to be somewhat close but what do you recommend and clearly girl friendly and approx rates. Anything similar to the Mansion in Medallion? ID kill for an arrangement or situation like that. Also have you noticed prices went up since the dollar started getting better? Or is it a true value and we get more for our money? I know hotel rates sometimes follow the rise and fall of the dollar to local currency. Any help would be great. Trying to come in town within the next week. Total newbie to the area but not to the scene or the country.Hi lowkey1,
My best bet in Bogota will be: http://www.suitesreal.com/.
Booked as For 2 Persons, and you are all set.
My two Colombian Pesos.
Kukulkan
Just Hi from Cancun.
Read the forums, there's a lot of info. Take a look at World Travel 69's maps, they're very helpful and you can figure out a nice hotel from there. On girl friendly it's going to be a hit or miss, if you're discrete you can get by. All hotels are "girl-friendly" but it's a matter of them charging you for your extra guest or not. A few will just require them to register and you don't get charged, while others will ask you to pay a fee for every girl. Dann Carlton is in a pretty good location and is girl friendly.
Do not stay in or near Santa Fe, especially as a newbie. As for rates, it takes a little bit of time for those things to catch up to the market rates. I have not heard of anything changing on the ground as of yet. A few weeks from now, who knows. Even if prices went up a little bit, you're still able to negotiate and it's still a very good value as compared to other places.World Traveler 69 has literally been everywhere. I should just ask him first before posting LOL. Anyhow there a link to his maps? And if this was a super active thread then RTFF would be ok, but when info gets to be a month or two or a year old its better to ask the question fresh again because things change quickly and some people may have new insight. So I have def read it and looked back a few months and the exact questions I wanted to know was not answered. ID love a copy of this map so a link would be killer right now.
Hi all,
Can anyone confirm if Juan Pablo is still operating and where? Last time I was in Bogota, the Taxi driver told me it was closed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
LatinaLover#1
08-14-15, 03:30
Hi all,
Can anyone confirm if Juan Pablo is still operating and where? Last time I was in Bogota, the Taxi driver told me it was closed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
ThanksI was there not long ago, the address had changed a year or so ago but I don't remember what it is, I have it written down somewhere. Sometimes the taxi guys will say things like that to take you to another place that will pay them commission. Try and do your homework before getting in to a taxi.
Hi all,
Can anyone confirm if Juan Pablo is still operating and where? Last time I was in Bogota, the Taxi driver told me it was closed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
ThanksWas their tonight, it's open 20 or so girls! Pay in Pasos, girls want 300 k or 200 USA! You figure it out! LOL enjoy!
I was there not long ago, the address had changed a year or so ago but I don't remember what it is, I have it written down somewhere. Sometimes the taxi guys will say things like that to take you to another place that will pay them commission. Try and do your homework before getting in to a taxi.Thanks for the reply. If you do find the address, please post it here for me. Much appreciated.
World Travel 69
08-14-15, 20:41
https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago
Thanks for the reply. If you do find the address, please post it here for me. Much appreciated.
BusinessTrav
08-15-15, 03:15
Hi everyone,
I will be in town this weekend until Monday. Is anyone around that would like to go out and have some fun?
Maybe go to a night club or swingers club in the north?
King Of Crunk
08-17-15, 00:36
I will be in both Bogota and Medellin, have read this thread and followed for several years but never posted anything since I never went. My question would be pertaining to a threesome. Would the experience be better via escort agency or at a brothel. Does anyone have any insight regarding cost and experience.
Thanks.
I will be in both Bogota and Medellin, have read this thread and followed for several years but never posted anything since I never went. My question would be pertaining to a threesome. Would the experience be better via escort agency or at a brothel. Does anyone have any insight regarding cost and experience.
Thanks.For a threesome, whether escorts or at a brothel, I highly recommend doing at least one of the chicas (and preferably both) beforehand. You really need to know first-hand how a girl conducts herself in la cama to see if she's a good candidate for a threesome.
I will be in both Bogota and Medellin, have read this thread and followed for several years but never posted anything since I never went. My question would be pertaining to a threesome. Would the experience be better via escort agency or at a brothel. Does anyone have any insight regarding cost and experience.
Thanks.Go to pussy house sit back relax watch the show, and grab two girls for 120 k total, I've had so much fun their this week, love teaching them young hot babes how to deep through (15 k extra without condom.) but worth every penny, calle 61#13-64. I was their at least 4 time this week and never had to pay 5 k cover that I read was in place! My first trip to Bogota, I really had a blast!! Very very good value, and want to thank Worldtravelr69 for guiding me through whole trip, even while I was here! 10 days here my body is beat up after fucking all week, need another vaca! Quito, and Sousa on my list of things to do!
Depends on what you are looking for, if you are looking for girl on girl action, you odds are not good finding that at a spa or brothel, it will be a hit and miss, more than likely a big miss. But ask, you never know, just be aware if they tell you they will, does not necessarily means is what you expect, they may give each other a little kiss, rub each other tis, and not much more than that, if you ask be specific of what you want. If you want girl on girl for sure action, you best bet is to get that service from a agency with good reputation like Solitas para ti, they advertise threesomes (or used to), make sure it say "show lesbico", not sure if she is still with them but Patty from solitas used to be advertised with partners for thresomes, she is a good time, great attitude, so so face but awesome body, or just tell the operator what you are looking for. If you go that route be ready to pay probably around 400 K. Another route is to look for that service in mileroticos, but that, though less expensive, is also full of surprises good and bad, hit and miss as well, and may not get the girls in the pics, I would not recommend. If you goal is to only be with two girls, then you can get that most anywhere if you ask. Don't expect girl on girl but you never know, may be your lucky day. There is a SPA in the North side that as part of their menu (yes you walk in and they give you a menu with different service options and "packages" I took, there threesome for an hour, (beers included. Ha-ha) for 170 k ftotal Both girls rubbing on me, oral from both, but not at the same time, kisses from both 10 k each (had to pay extra), fuck one or the other, but zero girl on girl. Good luck, and do report your experiences.
I will be in both Bogota and Medellin, have read this thread and followed for several years but never posted anything since I never went. My question would be pertaining to a threesome. Would the experience be better via escort agency or at a brothel. Does anyone have any insight regarding cost and experience.
Thanks..
LatinaLover#1
08-22-15, 01:45
In need of a dentist in Bogota. Nothing major, just a cleaning and filling but my dentist doesn't have any openings before I leave. Staying in Chica Navarre near unicentro commercial. Any help greatly appreciated.
I will be coming to Bogata in early October for a weekend visit. Even though I am a regular visitor to Cartagena and other Colombian locales, this will be my first visit to Bogata outside of one enormously rainy Monday evening several years ago. On that Sunday, I would probably fly to Cali or MDE for several days before ending my trip in Cartagena and Santa Marta.
I hear the Bogata nightlife can be pretty good especially on the weekend and wanted to know if anyone has recommendations for clubs and restaurants. Do any FL's go to these clubs? My previous research indicates the Zona Rosa area is good but also have heard other areas are popular as well. Also, is there much going on Sunday evening -- clubs, casa, or otherwise?
In addition, I would like to find a decent boutique style hotel in walking distance of the clubs etc. With the increasing value of the USD, I notice some of these boutique hotels listed on Trip Advisor are starting to be more affordable. I should also note that I am hoping a little hottie who I met in Santa Marta last October and now lives in Bogata may join me on my appointed rounds. She is now attending university in Bog to which I gladly and nobly contributed some of her tuition fees last year.
Red Legend
08-26-15, 14:52
Does anyone have an updated version of WT's maps for Bogota?
I've been in town for a couple of days and certainly most of the bars in the north of the city are no longer in business. Did find one massage place which delivered to expectations.
Also is Juan Pablos still on Carrera 18 near the Dann Carlton? Read one post which said it had moved.
And is the famous Pussy House still in operation.
Have 24 hours to nail this city. Literally - any updated pointers on where to go would be appreciated. Otherwise I may have to head into Santa Fe.
Thanks boys.
Beer Monger
08-26-15, 20:53
Does anyone have an updated version of WT's maps for Bogota?
I've been in town for a couple of days and certainly most of the bars in the north of the city are no longer in business. Did find one massage place which delivered to expectations.
Also is Juan Pablos still on Carrera 18 near the Dann Carlton? Read one post which said it had moved.
And is the famous Pussy House still in operation.
Have 24 hours to nail this city. Literally - any updated pointers on where to go would be appreciated. Otherwise I may have to head into Santa Fe.
Thanks boys.I'll be there in a couple of weeks. Not sure if I'll have time to update due to work schedule, but I have been using google street view and have also noticed just from that, that there are a lot of new buildings going up where the knocking shops used to be. I prefer massage parlors anyway, and there is plenty of info on those.
World Travel 69
08-26-15, 22:16
I try to keep the Map updated after someone posts something.
Which places did you visit that are Closed or Open?
https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago The last date for this place is two years old.
Does anyone have an updated version of WT's maps for Bogota?
I've been in town for a couple of days and certainly most of the bars in the north of the city are no longer in business. Did find one massage place which delivered to expectations.
Also is Juan Pablos still on Carrera 18 near the Dann Carlton? Read one post which said it had moved.
And is the famous Pussy House still in operation.
Have 24 hours to nail this city. Literally - any updated pointers on where to go would be appreciated. Otherwise I may have to head into Santa Fe.
Thanks boys.
Red Legend
08-27-15, 00:28
I try to keep the Map updated after someone posts something.
Which places did you visit that are Closed or Open?
https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago The last date for this place is two years old.Hi WT 69,
Thanks for responding. All the bars indicated between Calle 86 a and around Calle 80 are closed and indeed some have been replaced by cafes and restaurants as this zone upgrades itself.
Most of the massage places however are still open, so my day was actually quite fun filled and there is a rather dusky escort girl winging her way to my hotel right now.
I also took a look at some of the bars between Calle 90 and 100, but didn't sense there was anything still moving there.
Next time I hit town. I will look you up in advance.
Cheers,
Red
Soldierb11
08-27-15, 22:20
Just returned from a week in Bogota and didn't have a problem at either place I stayed.
Chica Friendly hotels-.
I stayed first at Lloyds apartasuites Parque 93- was only about $65 and was a small apartment with actual separate bedroom so not a studio. Small kitchen but more than adequate for any type of cooking. Bathroom decent as well, free WiFi. Zero issues with bringing girls in. The desk would call me and say "senor, we have miss Alejandra here to see you". And then I would say send her up. Hotel is located near Parque 93 which has a lot of clubs and restaurants and is a good location IMO.
Second place I stayed at was the W hotel. I wanted to go big for the weekend and got one of their nicer rooms. I was a little worried about bringing a girl into a 5 star hotel. However I had zero problems. One of the reasons was the layout of the hotel. The official front entrance and lobby where you would pass the front desk can be avoided by going to another entrance that faces the shopping mall and other high rises in that area not as much security and no front desk personnel. The very good club and disco are located on the 3rd floor so not a problem to have a girl meet you in lobby and then say you are going to the disco and then later from there take the other elevators up to your room.
W is a great hotel, I was impressed and the girls from the barrio were speechless.
BatInTheCity
08-28-15, 01:51
Just returned from a week in Bogota and didn't have a problem at either place I stayed.
Chica Friendly hotels-.
I stayed first at Lloyds apartasuites Parque 93- was only about $65 and was a small apartment with actual separate bedroom so not a studio. Small kitchen but more than adequate for any type of cooking. Bathroom decent as well, free WiFi. Zero issues with bringing girls in. The desk would call me and say "senor, we have miss Alejandra here to see you". And then I would say send her up. Hotel is located near Parque 93 which has a lot of clubs and restaurants and is a good location IMO.
Second place I stayed at was the W hotel. I wanted to go big for the weekend and got one of their nicer rooms. I was a little worried about bringing a girl into a 5 star hotel. However I had zero problems. One of the reasons was the layout of the hotel. The official front entrance and lobby where you would pass the front desk can be avoided by going to another entrance that faces the shopping mall and other high rises in that area not as much security and no front desk personnel. The very good club and disco are located on the 3rd floor so not a problem to have a girl meet you in lobby and then say you are going to the disco and then later from there take the other elevators up to your room.
W is a great hotel, I was impressed and the girls from the barrio were speechless.I stayed at the Bogota casa Dann Carlton all last week. Great prices, and the elevator to my floor was near the front door, not the front desk. So it seems it s chica friendly. I had an Amiga with me all week, and registered her, but I could have brought up anyone. Only $100 per night for us both, great rate for a luxury hotel. Five minute taxi to park 93.
You mention the disco in the W Hotel. So is that a good place to find pro or non-pro's or is it mostly couples and non-contenders?
I will be in Bogota the weekend of Oct 2 and have decided to stay somewhere near Parque 83 as that appears to be a nice entertainment district.
Soldierb11
08-28-15, 16:09
You mention the disco in the W Hotel. So is that a good place to find pro or non-pro's or is it mostly couples and non-contenders?
I will be in Bogota the weekend of Oct 2 and have decided to stay somewhere near Parque 83 as that appears to be a nice entertainment district.I doubt there are many pros in either of these places. It is very upscale and a large percentage of the guys either had a sport coat or a shirt and tie at least in the bar between 6-8 pm. I felt a bit awkward in jeans and a t shirt. It was a great after work meet up place. I was waiting for a girl to come so we could go to dinner and sat next to a guy from panama that was doing the same. He was an international businessman maybe in his late 40's, dressed very nice. He was waiting for he said Miss Barranquilla 2012 who placed 2nd or 3rd in miss Colombia. I thought OK whatever. He wasn't joking, when she arrived she was a knockout.
The AU disco I went to on both Friday and Saturday night. Dress code is more casual than the bar but is still a very upscale disco. I didn't see any pros there. There are a shitload of girls though out with work friends. I saw several groups of 10-15 people where they were all sharing a bottle of something. I would say with some Spanish and some game one could hook up there with someone. I had girls with me both nights so didn't try.
Overall both the bar and disco are worth it if you are close to that area. Not sure I would travel across town though just for it.
Soldierb11
08-28-15, 16:17
I stayed at the Bogota casa Dann Carlton all last week. Great prices, and the elevator to my floor was near the front door, not the front desk. So it seems it s chica friendly. I had an Amiga with me all week, and registered her, but I could have brought up anyone. Only $100 per night for us both, great rate for a luxury hotel. Five minute taxi to park 93.I would guess your experience at the Dann Carlton would be the same as any other 5 star place. If you register one girl and she is the only one that comes in and out with you then you will have zero problem. If you plan on having several different girls a day then you might have to choose something other than a 5 star. But the layout of the hotel can also help you out if you know that. For example at the W, if you enter through reception where you likely will have a girl arrive in taxi you have to get past the doorman, the reception desk and up one elevator, then go past another security guy and concierge desk for the 2nd set of elevators that take you to the rooms. HOWEVER, if you enter the W from the other side facing the mall and the courtyards you skip the doorman / reception desk and one security guy. On Friday night I had a very classy, well dressed girl arrive on first floor, no problem. I tipped the security guy on third floor though and we went to our room. The next night I had 3 very trashy hood rats with me that didn't belong within 100 m of the W. However we entered from the mall side and past the guard that I had tipped the night before and no problema.
All in all, a majority of the time in south america if you are discrete you will have no problems. I knew however my last night in town I was not going to be discrete at all hence the extra tipping and recon of an easier entrance.
ForTheSwarm
08-29-15, 01:34
Hi,
New to the forum and first night here in Bogota.
So since I'm staying in chapinero central, I decided to check out the bars close by as per the map provided by Wt69.
Either I'm reading the addresses wrong or they don't exist. Instead what I found were pet shops and jewelry pawn shops on.
Avenida Caracas.
As for the no name? Bar, it was not found either. Just residential streets with a couple of stores.
Has anyone been to any of these 3 mentioned? Have they moved? Or closed?
Soldierb11
08-29-15, 16:14
So I had a little time to kill before a new novia came over so I wanted to give an escort agency a try. I used solitas at http://solitasparati.com
Called on the phone around noon and ordered a girl for 3 pm. Not sure if the operator speaks English or not for you non-Spanish learners out there. But she was pleasant enough and asked what I wanted. Since the whole week I was with different typical Colombian morenas I had her help me find a Rubia. I also said I did not want siliconas. She guided me to a Liliana and I checked her pictures online while talking and she looked amazing!! So I said yes please and we agreed for 3 pm. Lilianas page.
http://solitasparati.com/9/es-es/acompa%C3%B1antes/liliana.aspx
I did some errands and showered and waited and sure enough at 3:00 pm the hotel reception called and asked if I was expecting this girl. I said yes of course and up she came. She knocked and when I opened the door. I tried to hide my overwhelming disappointment. It wasn't that "Liliana" wasn't attractive she was, but her add said 25 years old and friends she hasn't been 25 in a long time. My guess is she was about 37. Still attractive at her age and dressed in a suit like she was coming from a bank or business meeting. I considered just sending her back with some taxi money but her price was only 200 k and by now there would be no way to get a replacement here and out before my date showed up at 7 pm. So off to the couch we went and talked for 10 minutes, a very nice conversation and then she went to the bathroom to change. Out she came a few minutes later in a sexy blue teddy. Her body still looked very good as it did in the photos but I just couldn't get into the session. She started with very light french kissing but I didn't care. She then went for a CBJ and again I couldn't care. Now in retrospect as I am writing this what I should've done is just find some oil and ask for a sexy massage but she continued with her CBJ and then got on top of me. It was OK, but already at this point I was clock watching yes I! We switched to doggy and were going at this just a little while and she is telling me to pound her harder until I cum. I then decided I am not going to waste my leche on her but save it for my girl at 7 pm. So since I had her in doggy her head in pillow and the bathroom behind me, I began pounding her harder and then at end did a pretty good job I must say of faking an orgasm, I then pulled out of her grabbed my cock and condom covering it so she couldn't see and went to bathroom to "clean up" after I returned she did the same and then we talked for a few minutes and she said her hour was up and got ready to go. Once ready I gave her the 200 k and off she went. Nice lady and still fit and attractive for her age but MILFs are not really my thing and hard for me to get into it when I had a 21 year old coming a few hours later. I will try solitas one more time the next time I am in Bogota but will insist on one of the 19 yr old only.
King Of Crunk
08-31-15, 15:04
Hi does anyone know of any action in Zona Norte area. Staying near Pepe Sierra bus station. I should have picked a better location but can do much now as its only a short stay. And I found a escort via backpage Bogota who happen to have a whattsapp number ***** wanted 150 usd. I'm like this working girl must be on something LOL. Any info is gladly appreciated.
World Travel 69
08-31-15, 15:18
Rincon del Chico
1. Angeles, Av. Carrera 15 # 104-03, Mezzanine 5 / 6. 6 Chicas. Prices: CBJ 60k 45 min., Complete 70k 45 min. Tel: 215 4536. Hours: 10am to 8pm, Sunday 11am to 6pm. www.zonasensual.com
2. Av. Carrera 15 # 104-03, Mezzanine 8. 5 Chicas. Prices: 25k HJ, 35k HJ++, 60k hour Complete. Tel: _____. Hours: 10am to 8pm.
3. Av. Carrera 15 # 104-03, Mezzanine 9. 5 Chicas. Prices: 25k HJ, 40k CBJ, 50k hour Complete. Tel: _____. Hours: 10am to 8pm.
4. Abadesas, Av. Carrera 15 # 104-03, Mezzanine 10. 4-5 Chicas. Prices: 40k 15 min., 50k 30 min., 60k 45 min., 100k hour, includes massage, HJ, CBJ, and intercourse, 140k Take Out. Tel: 215-4518, 620-9358, Cell: 311-214-8104. Hours: Monday to Saturday 9:30am-8:30pm, Sunday 10am to 6pm.
5. Av. Carrera 15 # 104-03, Mezzanine 13. 4 Chicas. Prices: 25k HJ, 35k HJ++, 70k hour Complete. Tel: _____. Hours: Monday to Saturday10am to 9pm, Sunday 10am to 7pm.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.k5hsIHWzsfeY
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Hi does anyone know of any action in Zona Norte area. Staying near Pepe Sierra bus station. I should have picked a better location but can do much now as its only a short stay. And I found a escort via backpage Bogota who happen to have a whattsapp number ***** wanted 150 usd. I'm like this working girl must be on something LOL. Any info is gladly appreciated.
With 1 stop round trip airfares from Podunk, USA to Bogota, at under $400, American Airlines seduced me into booking a trip. Looks like I will be going to Bogota December 1-10. With late arrival and early departure, I only have 8 days to do anything (2-9). Any special fiestas, celebrations that time of year?
Parkinsons
09-01-15, 22:18
With 1 stop round trip airfares from Podunk, USA to Bogota, at under $400, American Airlines seduced me into booking a trip. Looks like I will be going to Bogota December 1-10. With late arrival and early departure, I only have 8 days to do anything (2-9). Any special fiestas, celebrations that time of year?I jumped on it when AA first put the route on sale 4 days ago, got mine for $280. Then this morning supposedly they cut the prices even further, but not for the time and dates I've already booked.
My trip won't be until early next year, but I started my research already. So far I've been using google street view to check out the Santa Fe neighborhood. Interesting stuff!!
I jumped on it when AA first put the route on sale 4 days ago, got mine for $280. Then this morning supposedly they cut the prices even further, but not for the time and dates I've already booked.
My trip won't be until early next year, but I started my research already. So far I've been using google street view to check out the Santa Fe neighborhood. Interesting stuff!!Sweet deal for you. My airport has less traffic, so I never get the lowest fares. The AA sale for my airport didn't start until last night and ended about 12 hours later. All the other days I checked, the AA fares were higher and were routing me through DFW & MIA, adding another 12-14 hours each way. The same ticket that was $394 this morning is now almost $1000. I would have preferred United so that I could fly through IAH, but not for $400 more.
Long time poster to the SXM thread. Now taking my journeys beyond the Caribbean and into the lovely country of Colombia. Thanks to all for the valuable intel I've garnered from reading the previous posts. I booked my trip about a month ago, so not sure how screwed I got on airfare based on some recent posts. I decided on staying at a place on Calle 56, which I figured is just about the midpoint from Santa Fe and the Mezzanine parlors up north on Calle 104. I think I'm in Chapinero which according to the maps shows quite a bit of action.
Only 2 questions. I'm a bit confused about the taxi situation from the airport. Seems they used to have a taxi office where you would go in and get a ticket based on your destination. Is this still the deal? I've viewed Youtube videos about the card the driver is supposed to display and the meter should be set to 25 and all the other happy horseshit about surcharges they can add on to the fare. I just want a safe and reasonable ride from the airport to my hotel, so any recent taxi tips would be appreciated.
Also, Santa Fe and the Chapinero areas after dark. I'm a world traveler that knows rule #1 is don't draw attention to yourself. I've been to Rio and Amsterdam and wandered around at night with no problems. I've been in the meat packing district in NYC at 4 am Before they made it "trendy" and survived as well. I've viewed youtube videos of the Bogota Street scene filmed during the day and didn't appear to be problematic, although the streets were pretty desolate, and I'm sure I'd attract some attention, even though I do a good job of blending in.
So question #2. Not that I plan on being out in the Santa Fe district at 4 am, but how safe after nightfall are Santa Fe and Chapinero? I assume Santa Fe is the rougher neighborhood and I read an old blog from someone on another site saying they saw thugs on street corners brandishing machetes. Is it really that bad, and if so, who then goes there at night, based on all the taxi scams I've read about.
Hoping that Bogota has gotten safer, but if it's dangerous beyond comprehension. I might have to limit my activities to purely daytime hours.
Use Uber from the airport and no Bogota isn't that bad as long as you keep your wits about you.
Long time poster to the SXM thread. Now taking my journeys beyond the Caribbean and into the lovely country of Colombia. Thanks to all for the valuable intel I've garnered from reading the previous posts. I booked my trip about a month ago, so not sure how screwed I got on airfare based on some recent posts. I decided on staying at a place on Calle 56, which I figured is just about the midpoint from Santa Fe and the Mezzanine parlors up north on Calle 104. I think I'm in Chapinero which according to the maps shows quite a bit of action.
Only 2 questions. I'm a bit confused about the taxi situation from the airport. Seems they used to have a taxi office where you would go in and get a ticket based on your destination. Is this still the deal? I've viewed Youtube videos about the card the driver is supposed to display and the meter should be set to 25 and all the other happy horseshit about surcharges they can add on to the fare. I just want a safe and reasonable ride from the airport to my hotel, so any recent taxi tips would be appreciated.
Also, Santa Fe and the Chapinero areas after dark. I'm a world traveler that knows rule #1 is don't draw attention to yourself..
1. There's a taxi line right outside arrivals, you'll of course be asked by plenty of people if you want a ride and skip the taxi line. Just ignore that. I have not had an issue with the taxi line at El Dorado, you get into the taxi you're directed to, the meter is set, and off you go. To get around the city, ask the hotel or any restaurant you're at to call a taxi for you, they'll give you the code for the taxi that is arriving. If you have a smartphone, you can always use Uber and I've never had an issue with it other than the ETA of the driver being off due to bad traffic or the GPS being off slightly and the driver waiting a block or two off from my actual location. The other app is Tappsi.
2. Santa Fe safety. Ahhh where to begin? You'll read plenty of people saying it's very unsafe even for locals. I've gone in the daytime and in the early evening to mid-evening hours and I did not have an issue. Of course I also don't draw attention to myself and act like I know where I'm going. Santa Fe, the area you're looking for is not very big. You're talking just a couple calles that you can walk through in 5 minutes (assuming you don't stop anywhere). But of course, you're going to stop somewhere and check out the talent which at some places is going to make you think "yup, this is why I came to Colombia. " Places like Atunes (which is a daytime place and closes in the early evening). I've never seen guys with machetes and people getting stabbed, or robberies taking places, or chaos everywhere as some might lead you to believe. Everyone has their own experience, but I have never seen it. I also chose not to stay late, and some bar workers at the clubs advised not to stay past 11 as the area becomes more sketchy with people just looking for people to take advantage of. The biggest danger is just being in an area which is not exactly glamorous, and a lot of homeless people and sketchy people with wandering eyes. Honestly, having traveled to many major cities and walking through red light districts in those cities. I don't think it's much different. It's not the safest looking area, but it is what it is and there are lots of people walking around looking for exactly the same thing you're looking for. Also, once you get off the Transmilenio stop, the clubs are just one street away so it's very close to the mass transit stop there and there are cops / security right there. Don't carry a wallet in your back pocket, don't pull out your massive smart phone (if you have one) every few minutes or walk while sending messages on whatsapp to your potential lays, act like you know where you're going, and don't look like a wealthy visitor that has lots of money to spend. And you will not face any issues. My very first visit to Bogota, I actually held off on going to Santa Fe because of all the things I read on here. But I kept wondering about the reports where people went without an issue and did my own research, I asked people who have actually been there, and got some honest answers. Just about everyone said it's not safe late at night, just like it's not safe in certain parts of NYC late at night, or in Chicago, or in Frankfurt, or Berlin, or Amsterdam, or Bangkok, etc. So on my next trip I decided to go in the daytime (3-4 PM and stayed until 6 PM). I was there until 8-9 PM the day after that, and then up to 11 PM after that. I did not stay past 11 PM, and I don't know what happens after that time or well into the late hours. My experience was that I did not face any issues, and at no point did I feel like something bad was going to happen to me or around me, and I also didn't think about it either. I walked around like I had been there hundreds of times before. It wasn't an issue for me, and I hope that everyone has a safe and enjoyable trip there and does their proper research before they visit Santa Fe. There is a risk to everything, but if you use some common sense. You'll more than likely be sharing stories of the gorgeous women you saw and had the opportunity to nail at an unbelievable price and how you love Colombia and can't wait to be back.
Look forward to reading that report, have a safe trip. .
Long time poster to the SXM thread. Now taking my journeys beyond the Caribbean and into the lovely country of Colombia. Thanks to all for the valuable intel I've garnered from reading the previous posts. I booked my trip about a month ago, so not sure how screwed I got on airfare based on some recent posts. I decided on staying at a place on Calle 56, which I figured is just about the midpoint from Santa Fe and the Mezzanine parlors up north on Calle 104. I think I'm in Chapinero which according to the maps shows quite a bit of action.
Only 2 questions. I'm a bit confused about the taxi situation from the airport. Seems they used to have a taxi office where you would go in and get a ticket based on your destination. Is this still the deal? I've viewed Youtube videos about the card the driver is supposed to display and the meter should be set to 25 and all the other happy horseshit about surcharges they can add on to the fare. I just want a safe and reasonable ride from the airport to my hotel, so any recent taxi tips would be appreciated.
Also, Santa Fe and the Chapinero areas after dark. I'm a world traveler that knows rule #1 is don't draw attention to yourself. I've been to Rio and Amsterdam and wandered around at night with no problems. I've been in the meat packing district in NYC at 4 am Before they made it "trendy" and survived as well. I've viewed youtube videos of the Bogota Street scene filmed during the day and didn't appear to be problematic, although the streets were pretty desolate, and I'm sure I'd attract some attention, even though I do a good job of blending in.
So question #2. Not that I plan on being out in the Santa Fe district at 4 am, but how safe after nightfall are Santa Fe and Chapinero? I assume Santa Fe is the rougher neighborhood and I read an old blog from someone on another site saying they saw thugs on street corners brandishing machetes. Is it really that bad, and if so, who then goes there at night, based on all the taxi scams I've read about.
Hoping that Bogota has gotten safer, but if it's dangerous beyond comprehension. I might have to limit my activities to purely daytime hours.
Appreciate the feedback. Here's a bit more background on my trip and any members with experience, feel free to comment. I decided on staying at the Abitare 56 Hotel on Calle 56 near Avenue 7. Price seemed right and the website drew me in for a junior suite under 30 bucks a night. Not sure if the place is chica friendly, but I booked the room for 2. A couple of trips ago to SXM, I met a really sweet Colombian chica who I've been in contact with via facebook. We did a couple of TLN's while I was on the island. She actually hated working at Hypnotic and left the island early this past March just before I was to arrive on island for another visit. You can read the details on the SXM thread and see her pic there as well. Anyway, she intends to meet me at El Dorado airport and spend the majority of my time in Bogota with me, so when I check in the hotel, she very well could be with me. Not 100% sure if she will show. She's from Ibague which is fairly close to Bogota, and I still can't get an answer of what she's doing now that she's back in Colombia. If she shows, my visit to Santa Fe may not happen at all. I'm hoping she just spends the weekend with me and the couple of days before and after, I can check out the other talent in the city. But, she's sweet and has a killer body and wasn't a shark or a pro like some of the girls in Caroline's in SXM. So we shall see how this plays out. I can either be in heaven with this Latin lovely my entire trip, or in hell, trying to figure out an exit strategy to get her back home, after being with her 24 hrs. A day for a few days.
Assuming she's with me and based on where I'm staying I think there's a big disco called Theatron nearby. Heard it's primarily gay, but with a hot girl at my side and 9 dance floors, I've read that it's a happening place on the weekends and worth checking out. I've read about the Bogota Brewing Company as being a cool place as well. La Candelaria and the north part of Chapinero seem to have lots of nightlife, so may check those areas out as well.
I've gotten the lowdown on Santa Fe, but what about Chapinero? I'm guessing it "appears" safer than Santa Fe, but anything can happen anywhere, anytime. For example, read that if you want to walk up Monserrat, do so on the weekend when the trail is busy, not during the week. Seems that 11 pm Is the curfew for walking and if out after that have the club / bar call a cab.
Also, in the area of Chapinero, Avenue 15 between I'll guess Calle's 55 to 60, and probably in many other areas, trannies are all over the place. Not my thing, but appears that many of these Colombians are quite convincing in their appearance as being as hot as a real chica. I've figured out where to avoid in Santa Fe for this, but wonder about any areas in Chapinero that one should be cautious about. Especially if they are mixed in with normal chica hangouts.
Again, if my chica does show, I'm assuming she's pretty familiar with Bogota and I'll have a novia and tour guide all wrapped in one. She'll be able to handle the taxi and logistic and where to go and what to do issues. Guess I'll change some money at the airport and then look for the New York Money change booths in the shopping malls the day after I arrive. Guess I'll have to leave the shorts and swimwear at home, since Bogota is not St. Maarten! LOL! I'll share my experience upon my return!
Parkinsons
09-02-15, 17:05
. So far I've been using google street view to check out the Santa Fe neighborhood. Street view of corner of Cr 16 and CL 20.
Am I getting near tranny area?
Mr Enternational
09-02-15, 18:56
Street view of corner of Cr 16 and CL 20.
Am I getting near tranny area?From the pictures it sure looks like it. I do not know the stret numbers but there is a gas station. From there draw a line down the blocks. You want to stay to the side that is closest to the expressway. The street that gas station is on and everything to the otherside of it is tv zone.
I was in SF last week and will post a report soon.
Naked Gunz
09-02-15, 20:14
Am I getting near tranny area?Oh, I forgot. If it looks too good to be true, it usually is. Sigh.
Guess I'll change some money at the airportBad idea. Use your debit card at an ATM instead.
Chapinero is fine, at night you just need to use common sense and carry yourself with some authority. Walk like you know where you're going. I'm not a Bogota expert and it takes a little bit of time to get used to knowing where you're going but what makes it easier is knowing where the mountains / hills are since Bogota is pretty much laid out like a long strip. North to south so it's not bad at all. If I ever think I missed a turn, which has of course happened, I'll walk into a convenience store or restaurant and pull out my phone in there if I just really need to see where I'm going. The less visibility, the better. I think you know the drill. I stayed in Zona Rosa, specifically at the Sofitel Bogota. Yes a more upscale place but I read it's chica-friendly (and it is) and there's a Bogota Beer Company right in the corner along with many other restaurants and bars / clubs. The talent in the clubs however was disappointing. Especially compared to Santa Fe, I almost got the impression that the clubs in Zona Rosa has much lower quality than Santa Fe girls. But, I could have missed out on places and my timing could have been off too.
I like Hypnotic and Carolina's in SXM for Colombian talent, there are some beautiful women there and I've had good experiences (especially Hypnotic). Just keep in mind though, you're going to the motherland. Where the talent is actually produced. GFE is probably more easier in SXM though, but you also pay much more in SXM. If you speak some Spanish then GFE shouldn't be much of an issue to obtain in Bogota, and there are of course many many more chicas. It's a very big city, so not surprising. Ibague looks close on a map, but it's not. About 4 hours by road, and Colombian women can be hit or miss on that. I have been in contact with a couple chicas from my time in SXM who are from Bogota or nearby, and I had promised them that I'd be in touch when I arrive. One trip to Santa Fe made me forget them.
Maybe I'll hit them up if I just really get bored and have run out of women to find, they were good lays and I had TLN with them a more than once. So maybe. .
Appreciate the feedback. Here's a bit more background on my trip and any members with experience, feel free to comment. I decided on staying at the Abitare 56 Hotel on Calle 56 near Avenue 7. Price seemed right and the website drew me in for a junior suite under 30 bucks a night. Not sure if the place is chica friendly, but I booked the room for 2. A couple of trips ago to SXM, I met a really sweet Colombian chica who I've been in contact with via facebook. We did a couple of TLN's while I was on the island. She actually hated working at Hypnotic and left the island early this past March just before I was to arrive on island for another visit. You can read the details on the SXM thread and see her pic there as well. Anyway, she intends to meet me at El Dorado airport and spend the majority of my time in Bogota with me, so when I check in the hotel, she very well could be with me. Not 100% sure if she will show. She's from Ibague which is fairly close to Bogota, and I still can't get an answer of what she's doing now that she's back in Colombia. If she shows, my visit to Santa Fe may not happen at all. I'm hoping she just spends the weekend with me and the couple of days before and after, I can check out the other talent in the city. But, she's sweet and has a killer body and wasn't a shark or a pro like some of the girls in Caroline's in SXM. So we shall see how this plays out. I can either be in heaven with this Latin lovely my entire trip, or in hell, trying to figure out an exit strategy to get her back home, after being with her 24 hrs. A day for a few days.
Assuming she's with me and based on where I'm staying I think there's a big disco called Theatron nearby. Heard it's primarily gay, but with a hot girl at my side and 9 dance floors, I've read that it's a happening place on the weekends and worth checking out. I've read about the Bogota Brewing Company as being a cool place as well. La Candelaria and the north part of Chapinero seem to have lots of nightlife, so may check those areas out as well.
I've gotten the lowdown on Santa Fe, but what about Chapinero? I'm guessing it "appears" safer than Santa Fe, but anything can happen anywhere, anytime. For example, read that if you want to walk up Monserrat, do so on the weekend when the trail is busy, not during the week. Seems that 11 pm Is the curfew for walking and if out after that have the club / bar call a cab.
Also, in the area of Chapinero, Avenue 15 between I'll guess Calle's 55 to 60, and probably in many other areas, trannies are all over the place. Not my thing, but appears that many of these Colombians are quite convincing in their appearance as being as hot as a real chica. I've figured out where to avoid in Santa Fe for this, but wonder about any areas in Chapinero that one should be cautious about. Especially if they are mixed in with normal chica hangouts.
Again, if my chica does show, I'm assuming she's pretty familiar with Bogota and I'll have a novia and tour guide all wrapped in one. She'll be able to handle the taxi and logistic and where to go and what to do issues. Guess I'll change some money at the airport and then look for the New York Money change booths in the shopping malls the day after I arrive. Guess I'll have to leave the shorts and swimwear at home, since Bogota is not St. Maarten! LOL! I'll share my experience upon my return!
Dad Fun 555
09-04-15, 02:08
I know Sunday is very slow in Bogota, but where are the best bets for action? If I remember correctly Atunes is open in the afternoon and closes early, and a handful of other SF clubs are open. Are any of the clubs up on the north side open on Sunday?
I know Sunday is very slow in Bogota, but where are the best bets for action? If I remember correctly Atunes is open in the afternoon and closes early, and a handful of other SF clubs are open. Are any of the clubs up on the north side open on Sunday?Atunes does close earlier on Sunday, you can always check out the other clubs in the early evening hours. Places like Troya are Fiebre are hit or miss but I've seen Troya be packed on a Sunday night. El Castillo doesn't open until 8 PM but it can get busy as the night goes on and I generally find the talent there to be among the best looking in SF. Good looking though does not necessarily equate to good performance, keep that in mind. If you aren't able to get to Atunes you can always go for the MP's, some of which are open on Sundays. The mezzanine (near Hotel Dann Carlton) has good options although service is hit or miss.
World Travel 69
09-04-15, 15:25
Some of the times are posted in the List Thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists{tagreplacement0}{tagreplacement1}
Ten days away from my first trip to Colombia. The chicas (assuming they are chicas) in the two pics attached to this previous post, look much more appealing than what showed up in a few youtube videos. I'm guessing these are streetwalkers since the area seems fairly desolate. Now here is where I need some guidance. As in anywhere, streetwalkers pose health, safety and drug issues, so I'd gather that with all the other talent in Santa Fe, stay clear of streetwalkers. Not bad to look at though. Next question, how do they operate? Guess if you had a car, you could invite one in for a CBJ, but for the pedestrian crowd, where do you hook up? Is this where the "love motels" come into play? (Short term joints? How safe / clean are they? And what do they charge? Do you run the risk of running into trouble by going to one, such as getting jumped / mugged either in the room or leaving it? I wouldn't expect the Hilton or even a Motel 6 for that matter, but a bug infested mattress laying on a floor with a light bulb hanging from the ceiling, seems quite possible after looking at this neighborhood and Santa Fe in general. I know there are many other choices to pick from. Just gathering as much advance Intel as possible. Can't wait to see the "motherland" of Colombian beauties, as Puntz79 referred to the country! It's going to be like being a kid in a candy store I hope! LOL!
Street view of corner of Cr 16 and CL 20.
Am I getting near tranny area?
Check out Motel LasPalmas. It's on WT 69 map. It looks decent from the photos and the short term rates are published next to the variety of rooms. There is also another motel in the map a few blocks to the west of that location.
Ten days away from my first trip to Colombia. The chicas (assuming they are chicas) in the two pics attached to this previous post, look much more appealing than what showed up in a few youtube videos. I'm guessing these are streetwalkers since the area seems fairly desolate. Now here is where I need some guidance. As in anywhere, streetwalkers pose health, safety and drug issues, so I'd gather that with all the other talent in Santa Fe, stay clear of streetwalkers. Not bad to look at though. Next question, how do they operate? Guess if you had a car, you could invite one in for a CBJ, but for the pedestrian crowd, where do you hook up? Is this where the "love motels" come into play? (Short term joints? How safe / clean are they? And what do they charge? Do you run the risk of running into trouble by going to one, such as getting jumped / mugged either in the room or leaving it? I wouldn't expect the Hilton or even a Motel 6 for that matter, but a bug infested mattress laying on a floor with a light bulb hanging from the ceiling, seems quite possible after looking at this neighborhood and Santa Fe in general. I know there are many other choices to pick from. Just gathering as much advance Intel as possible. Can't wait to see the "motherland" of Colombian beauties, as Puntz79 referred to the country! It's going to be like being a kid in a candy store I hope! LOL!
Was in Santa Fe last night until about 10 pm Checked out La Piscina. About ten chicas and I was not impressed. From there I tried to find Las Vegas but the door corresponding to the address on the list / map was unattended and a couple doormen tried to get me into a place around the corner. They were unresponsive when I asked if it was the Las Vegas and another doorman told me that the Las Vegas had closed.
I wandered up and down the streets around the main drag but didn't see anything to entice me. So finally I went to El Castillo. Lots of nice chicas there. About 20 or more but they kept coming and going.
When I left about 10 pm, it was really starting to pick up. I did not feel unsafe in Santa Fe but clearly you need to pay attention to everything going on in the street when you are walking around.
Jumped on the Transmilenio and headed up to Chapinero to check it out. Checked out what was Lewinskys and is re-opening as a no name club. But around midnight last night I couldn't find it. I was handed.
Another brochure announcing the inaugural for it again today so I'll try again tonight.
This was my second night in a row at Pussy House. Lots of chicas but nothing really hot. Checked out both floors both nights. Maybe I'm too picky but I thought El Castillo was way better talent.
Want to try Santa Fe again tonight but a little later after checking out a couple other Chapinero clubs.
Street view of corner of Cr 16 and CL 20.
Am I getting near tranny area?Ha ha. I've been google-mapping around the whole Sante Fe sector also. What you don't show in that pic is just to the right where you cut it off, on the building with the graffiti, it says "red comunitaria trans" or community network trans in English. Also just half way down that block is the Bar Shangay. Pretty obvious now? There was a YouTube video that also showed some trannies standing a block down in a corner where there's a convenience store (Cr 16 and CL 21). I'll tell you a secret that I've noticed. Sometimes, one of the prettier (real) girls will stand near the tranny area, I don't know if it's for a false sense of safety or they feel there's less competition or maybe some of them make friends with one or two of the trannies (although I always thought that's a very closed group for obvious reasons). So it pays sometimes to walk right to the border so to speak. If you're not sure, just say "hola" and 90% of the time you can tell right away from the voice. They know the deal, they know you're trying to verify so they'll almost always respond in a way that makes it clear. If you're still not sure, best to pass it by, LOL!
Thanks, I checked out the website. But think the place is up in the Calle 63 area, which is not exactly around the corner from Santa Fe. Place appears to be in Chapinero. Got to love the rates though. Looks like around six bucks an hour for the room. To get there with chica in tow, I'd guess you'd have to hail a cab from Santa Fe, which everywhere I read says it's not advisable. Call from hotel or bar to get code or something. Good to know about the place though in the event something develops in that area, since I'm staying on Calle 56, but closer to Avenue 7. . I guess as a new visitor to the Santa Fe area, I'll stick with Atunes, La Piscina, El Castillo, Friebe. And use the in house service. Also, I think I wouldn't have to pull a Crocodile Dundee and grab anyone's crotch in these places to verify gender! LOL! I had no real intention of connecting with any streetwalker, and those in the two recent pics posted, apparently aren't the real deal, but dam, they sure fooled me from a curvalicious perspective!
Check out Motel LasPalmas. It's on WT 69 map. It looks decent from the photos and the short term rates are published next to the variety of rooms. There is also another motel in the map a few blocks to the west of that location.
Went back to Santa Fe about 10 pm Last night. First, I checked out Atunes but not much quality. The doormen told me they are open every day (including Sundays) from 2 pm To 2 or 3 am.
From there I headed over to Paises. About 20+ chicas and a number of quality chicas. Grabbed Barbie, a slim blonde with a great body named Barbie (about 5'7" with fake tits and ass) and bought her a beer. Spent about 15 minutes talking with her. But decided against settling soon soon. Wanted to hit some other places. I told her I might be back for her and she answered by telling me to be careful on the street.
Next on the list was La Casona. But there was nothing to look at there. Talked and flirted with some of the chicas hanging in the doorways along the street.
My intention was to end up at El Castillo but I went into Fiebre first just to check it out. As I entered, I see a chica sitting in the raised area just inside the front door snorting some blow from off the back of a guy's hand. The place was packed. No room to even stand against a wall. I have no idea how many chicas but there were lots and lots. And hot looking chicas everywhere I looked. This place was rocking and the strippers were the best I had seen in my limited time in Bogota. It was so packed that there was constant jostling as people passed by. Had my ass grabbed a few times by chicas. After about twenty minutes or so I decided on a very hot looking chica named MaryAnn. Bought her a drink and tried to talk but it was difficult with the music. Up until this point, it had been a fun time and while I saw no other obvious gringos, no one besides the girls seemed to pay me any attention. But while I'm chatting up this chica, I started getting some really hard stares from some young punks sitting right in front of us. Even to the point of them standing up and turning around to glare. I just ignored them but it made me a little uncomfortable. I decided to try out this chica. When we went over to the bar area, some drunk old Colombian grabs her ass and won't let go. She turns to me like I should say or do something but I figured she could deal with it herself. I'm not about to start something with a drunk in a place like that. We go upstairs and no sooner than we get in the room when she starts with the bullshit. Everything that we negotiated below was off the table. I recognized that I had chosen poorly. She had not shown any particular interest in me prior to my speaking to her but she was smoking hot. I told her just get to it. CBJ and a fuck and I left while she was still dressing. It was around midnight so I cruised over to near the 23rd Street station, hailed a cab without incident and went back to the hotel in Chapinero.
It's the second time in recent days I've seen someone on the Colombia forum mention walking into some place and see a girl snorting blow and being very visible. While that's not my thing, I'm a little surprised that people are very surprised considering where you are. I've seen it at clubs in Santa Fe both discreetly and not so much, and I've also seen it at nicer places not only in Bogota but in Cartagena and Medellin as well. The very first time I witnessed this, I'll admit. It was a little surprising. Probably because those who are from the US like myself recognize this as being illegal. But I've been to many clubs in the US, and this happens all the time albeit more discreetly and not out in the open. It doesn't bother me much in a way, and I simply recognize it as coming with the territory. Most (not all) of the girls I've been with in Colombia have asked me if I wanted to do some, and I politely declined. I've walked down the streets of Cartagena (in Centro) in the evening and been asked by touts if I wanted a tour, chica, or coke and I simply decline. So each time I visit and see this, it becomes easier to ignore. I'm not sure if that's the right attitude to have, or if there's anything in particular I'm supposed to look out for that could be an issue for my own safety. Perhaps you guys have different experiences and can share if this has affected your mongering trip in any way. I know where I am, and I know certain things are more easily attainable than other parts of the world, so being able to recognize that and ignore it has never caused much of an issue for me.
You do understand that possession of cocaine is legal in Colombia, right? Right? Up to one gram, and it is also legal to give it away.
You do understand that possession of cocaine is legal in Colombia, right? Right? Up to one gram, and it is also legal to give it away.Yes, I understand. But do others? Hence the reason why I'm commenting. People act surprised and mention that they saw girls at a club snorting, and I'm curious how I'm supposed to use that information since whenever it is mentioned, it's generally geared towards the safety factor.
Your mailbox is full.
Very interesting that you met "C".
Nope. I had no idea that 1 g. Of coke was legal. I had not been there in thirty years and stopped using myself many years ago.
Nonetheless, Fiebre was a very happening place on a Saturday night. Next time, I think I'll try midweek.
I stayed in Chapinero at 55 con 10. Pussy House was a 5 minute walk.
While I was there, I was handed a number of cards for different houses in the area.
One was a no name at the same address as the old Lewinsky's, but I had no luck finding it open. It advertised chicas from 15 K and a lesbian show for 90 K.
I also checked out one called Sola Universitarias at Calle 61 No. 16-72 but, again, had no luck.
Others which I did not look for:
Masajes Relajantes, Atendido por Universitarias, Relax Total Calle 59 No. 10-19 Of. 201.
Odaliscas Spa, from 27 K, two chicas 34 K, Sauna and Jacuzzi, Domicilios Se recibe personal10 am To 8 pm Carrera 17, No. 53-26.
King Of Crunk
09-13-15, 15:17
So this was my first time to Colombia, I was coming from a week in Rio. So here goes. Got to the airport around 5:30 pm, went through customs and got my bags. Exchanged some money the rate was 1 usd to 2700 peso. I knew I was going to get ripped a little but whatever. So I leave and head toward the exit. I got one of the security guys to get me a cab. However this wasn't a yellow cab it was like a gypsy cab and the guy gave me a receipt. He led me to the parking lot which had his son awaiting to take me to my destination. Charge was 70 k from airport to Batan area. On the way out I took a yellow cab and was like 27k peso. I needed to get where I needed to go so I didn't sweat it but knew it was a little high. So we finally get there the driver. I feel like I'm in California the way the houses are designed. Did have a guard at the beginning of the street and he gave me the keys. So the driver lets me out and says 75 k I say the receipt says 70 k, he also didn't have exact change. He states " propina voluntario" so he basically got a tip due to not having correct change. So to sum it up I didn't some tourist things and checked the city out a little since I only had 2 days there. I am impressed with the Transmillenio however a city of 8 million it can get tight in them buses. Now to the mongering. Thanks to WorldTravel69 as I posted on here for information regarding Zona Norte and he was quick to respond with some address. I found all and a couple were closed along Calle 15. The closed locations were 106-58 and 106-60. I didn't see where the entrance for the " massage " was at the Hotel Dan Carlton. I ended up going to 104-03 mezzanine 13. Had about 6-7 girls chose Sofia, prices are 60 k-HJ, 70 k-BJ,80-k FS all with massage. Paid upfront as well. The massage was ok, the sex was ok but I think the small rooms killed it for me. Take out is available as well since I got her number. I checked all the other mezzanines as well but looks like the same set up. Would I repeat maybe maybe not who knows. Bogota was sunny and light showers on and off throughout the day.
Sofia is a very average at best performer. She is one of the best looking ones there, more "hot" than cute or beautiful and she grabs your attention. But in the room, and yes very small room, she is just OK. In fact I'd say she's not worth it at all, but because she's very attractive it's what lured me in. Her body has some signs of wear, although she's 26. At least she says she is, and she has had two kids if I'm not mistaken. Trust me, there are a lot of better options at the Mezzanine.
So this was my first time to Colombia, I was coming from a week in Rio. So here goes. Got to the airport around 5:30 pm, went through customs and got my bags. Exchanged some money the rate was 1 usd to 2700 peso. I knew I was going to get ripped a little but whatever. So I leave and head toward the exit. I got one of the security guys to get me a cab. However this wasn't a yellow cab it was like a gypsy cab and the guy gave me a receipt. He led me to the parking lot which had his son awaiting to take me to my destination. Charge was 70 k from airport to Batan area. On the way out I took a yellow cab and was like 27k peso. I needed to get where I needed to go so I didn't sweat it but knew it was a little high. So we finally get there the driver. I feel like I'm in California the way the houses are designed. Did have a guard at the beginning of the street and he gave me the keys. So the driver lets me out and says 75 k I say the receipt says 70 k, he also didn't have exact change. He states " propina voluntario" so he basically got a tip due to not having correct change. So to sum it up I didn't some tourist things and checked the city out a little since I only had 2 days there. I am impressed with the Transmillenio however a city of 8 million it can get tight in them buses. Now to the mongering. Thanks to WorldTravel69 as I posted on here for information regarding Zona Norte and he was quick to respond with some address. I found all and a couple were closed along Calle 15. The closed locations were 106-58 and 106-60. I didn't see where the entrance for the " massage " was at the Hotel Dan Carlton. I ended up going to 104-03 mezzanine 13. Had about 6-7 girls chose Sofia, prices are 60 k-HJ, 70 k-BJ,80-k FS all with massage. Paid upfront as well. The massage was ok, the sex was ok but I think the small rooms killed it for me. Take out is available as well since I got her number. I checked all the other mezzanines as well but looks like the same set up. Would I repeat maybe maybe not who knows. Bogota was sunny and light showers on and off throughout the day.
LatinaLover#1
09-14-15, 02:49
I met a girl online from barrio Galerias, she's a nurse, we and my buddy and his girl went to a tango restaurant last night. It was a good change of pace to see Tango close up.
The name of the place is Pena Esquina del tango. Best to get there by 9 for a good table and have time to eat before the show. BTW we all had the baby beef that was excellent and I think it was about 12 or 13 bucks for a very tender, nice size steak and fries and salad.
I'm living now in Colombia. I'm not a monger anymore, paying for sex seems ridiculous once you live here. I however missed the thrill of the underworld scene, started to investigate new areas and became swinger.
For those who have some experience of swinger in Europe or the US, here a couple of differences with the swinger scene in Colombia:
- Nudity is not natural for Colombians. You will often see girls having sex with their pants on.
- On average, people look better than the average swing public in Europe. Colombian women just take more care of themselves even when older.
- Colombians need alcohol to lose their inhibition. In most clubs you are supposed to buy a bottle, not a glass of alcohol. At the beginning of the evening, most people have their clothes on and they take it of only once they are enough drunk, say midnight. Before midnight things go real slow in most clubs, you might even believe you are in the wrong place.
- Colombians have no issue with race or origin, but with social difference yes. They need to know that they are fucking within their social class, therefor you have the clubs in the north for the upper scale and the clubs in the south of Bogota for the poorer social classes. As no one form the north even imagine going south, I know that there are some swing clubs in the south but have absolutely no info about them.
- There are no condom dispensers in clubs, you can only buy them at the bar. Condoms are often forgotten in the heat of the action even with complete strangers.
- Colombians hate to go out alone. When the clubs are open to man alone, there are lot less men alone than you might experience in Europe, which gives it of course a much better women / man ratio.
- Swing is not natural for the Colombian macho, the vast majority of couples simply love to have sex in the middle of other couples, flirting a bit with the couples around but no real interchange of couples. There are swingers of course, but you have to find them in the crowd.
- Those who are real swingers are in fact mostly not real couples, except elder couples. Most prefer to swing with a friend than with the real partner.
- It is common to socialize and interchange phone numbers with other couples, mainly to be part of the swing network that organize private events in Fincas outside Bogota, but also to find a swinger buddy.
Here are the best clubs in Bogota:
Spa SW http://swingerbogota.com Carrera 14 #80-25 close to Andres DC in Zona T with parking right nextdoor. It's open from Wednesday till Saturday from 6 pm till 2. 30 pm. Only for couples. After 10 pm there is a cover of 60 000. You have to drink for a minimum of 100 000. Credit cards accepted.
The place is upscale, on the first floor a nightclub, on the second floor a huge Jacuzzi and very small sauna and on the last floor the action area with a couple of huge beds. There is nobody on Wednesday and Thursday, on Friday and Saturday it's packed.
Everybody comes before 10 pm because of the cover and is in the nightclub area, drinking and dancing with clothes on as in any other nightclub. On midnight there is a couple giving a strip-tease show and after the show everybody moves to the action room. At the the beginning it is a strange atmosphere, most people are still with clothes, very few having action, mostly with clothes while the others are watching. Later at night clothes are off (at least in underwear, as it is common for girls to have sex with underwear. It looks like a huge orgy, but it is not. Most are just having sex with their partner, being at a couple of cm from another couple having sex is enough thrill for most.
The Jacuzzi area although great is hardly used. Truth is that it is not very convenient, the dressing room is at the entrance of the club. Nobody wants to cross the night club full of dressed people with just a towel and sandals.
The place is not really my favorite, it's the typical upscale club with arrogant people from the higher class who believe they are cool and modern by visiting a swing club while they are in fact not real swingers. Other thing that borrows me, is that people throw their condoms and papers on the floor while a poor cleaning girl has to pick it up all night long.
Interspa www.intersw.com Carrera 18 #78-50, close to Unilago, at walking distance of Spa SW. Open Thursday till Saturday from 8 pm till 2. 30 am. On Thursday it's also for single men, the other days only for couples. Same price as Spa SW. Valet parking. Credit Cards accepted.
It's a very similar club to Spa SW, upscale with a huge nightclub on the first floor and the wet area and action area on the second floor. The Jacuzzi didn't work a while ago, not sure they have fixed it. Similar atmosphere, a normal nightclub till midnight, the striptease show and then everybody moving to the action room. Also similar public, not real swingers.
Europeo www.europeobar.com Carrera 76 # 16-20 Open Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 pm. Thursday is also for single men, the other days just couples. Parking is at 200 m for 15 000. Credit cards accepted. Entrance is 75 000 of what 40 000 for drinks.
Although it has been renewed recently, the place is way less upscale than the 2 others. What borrows me most is the ventilation problem and the smell of humidity from the wet area. But what is great here is that everybody first has to go to the locker area, leave the clothes and go for the typical towel / sandals. On the first floor there is a night club with an action room in a mezzanine and in the basement the wet area and an other action room. The sauna and hammam are great, the Jacuzzi just seems dirty.
But here it comes, it's simply the best swing atmosphere in town, here are the real swingers. People just don't wait the typical strip-tease show to go crazy, its genuine fun here. The night club has a great atmosphere, everybody dancing salsa or cumbia half naked, couples switching while dancing. When the strippers come, it's hard for them, the public is hotter than they are, and women try to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the male stripper. I've seen here a wet tshirt contest, men with waterguns shooting the contestant girls and the rest of the public. In the jacuzzy, you will experience half a dozen of hands gripping your dick while you are masturbating two pussies on the same time. People have sex in the Jacuzzi without condom even with strangers. The action rooms are small, the couples are literally one on another. You can grab as much tits and asses as you want and yes here couples swing. If you are looking for unlimited sex, this is the place to be.
Zafiro www.zafirosclub-sw.com Calle 61 # 15-20. There is a parking lot in front. Open everyday from 2 pm till 2 am. However don't expect anything during the week, I guess it is simply used by couples as a cheaper alternative than the motels around as the club is in the middle of the lovemotels area. Entrance 35 000 on weekdays, 85 000 on week-ends open everyday also for single men.
It's by far the biggest club in area, but the facilities are really downscale, beyond my acceptable level. People have to change in towel sandals before entering, the social room is a great nightclub area, the hammam is great, also the sauna with a window to look at the action area, but the Jacuzzi is too cold. Actually, it's cold everywhere in the club, you just can't handle the temperature with just a towel. There are numerous rooms, all with glass doors to protect the couples from the single men I guess. Atmosphere can be great here, but I simply don't like the facilities to spend some time here.
Monastery Carrera 14 A 83-44 in the heart of la Zona T. Open from Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 2. 30 am. 75 000 entrance with 40 000 for drinks. Credit cards are not accepted. The closed Parking would be from the Carulla nearby. It used to call Bliss, then Tabu, was closed and has reopened since a month with a new management.
It is simply my preferred place, especially since they renewed it. Although it's small, it has simply the best facilities, on German FKK level. Same as Europeo, everybody has to change in the locker area. If men have the typical towel and sandals, girls receive clothes depending the theme: pijama party, Hawaiian party, nurse etc. Girls love the concept. The nightclub is small, the action area is much bigger and there is a great clean jacuzzy, a sauna and hammam. The atmosphere looks like the one of Europeo, people have great fun dancing half naked in interact easily as the place is very small. Swing is however not as common as in Europeo but you will always find a couple that is willing to swing.
A few tips:
- Even if there are clubs that open for single men, I simply don't recommend it. It's so easy to pick up a pro that is willing to escort you all night for 200 000 that it is no worth the frustration you feel being a single man in a swing couple, begging for sex, quarreling with the other single men for a peace of space.
- If you go with a pro, I definitely recommend Europeo as you will find for sure a couple that is willing to swing.
- Once you are in the club with your pro, try to spot the swing couples, and within the swing couple try to spot those who are not real couples. At the end of the night, when everybody is waiting at the entrance for a taxi, try to get o couple of phone numbers. There are always swing girls that are looking for a swing buddy to go to swing clubs.
- If you have a novia or an amiguita willing to escort you but inexperienced in swing, bring her first to Monastery. It's by far the one with the best facilities and with the most educated people, not a hardcore swing atmosphere, but couples that like to experiment.
Francois Uno
09-14-15, 08:28
Gents,
Headed to Bogota for the first time. Visiting my cousin who is a pro athlete there, but he'll be traveling for my first two days so I'll be entertaining myself. He's setting me up with a local he knows who's supposed to be a savvy, cool fella, however I'd still be interested to hear some rec's if you gentlemen would be so kind.
Staying on calle 53 and know absolutely nothing about the city and speak no Spanish. Looking for a nice club to go to to have a good time where a solo guy wouldn't necessarily be out of place? If I did decide to indulge myself with a couple ladies, where might I look? Not much luck searching online since I don't know Spanish. Thanks in advance for any help!
I'll be checking into my hotel on Calle 56 on Thursday of this week. Since you're a regular member, I don't think you can do private messaging. I myself have never been to Colombia, but I've spent the past 8 weeks doing my homework. Here's a few suggestions for you.
1) As has been said time and time again. Read the forum. Go back at least a year and a half since older posts beyond that may reference places that are no longer in business.
2) Study World Travelers maps. Bogota is the third largest city in the America's and is quite spread out. You need to have a basic understanding of how the city is laid out and the grid of Calles vs. Carrerras.
3) Go to your local library or Barnes and Noble and again, read up on the city regarding all the regular stuff it has to offer. Since you're being set up with a local, seems you'll have a built in tourist guide that should help with logistics.
You need some Spanish, especially if you're solo, but again with a local wingman, he should have your back. Bogota is a cosmopolitan city, but English is not the primary language. You're in Colombia, it's Espaņol! Some of the more touristy spots I'd assume will have English signage and bilingual staff, but the local girls may not speak a lick of English, so you better cram in some basic Spanish phrases to get some common understanding going.
Again, you need to go back at least 50 pages in this forum and do your reading. After that, you may have a few unanswered questions still, but there are many informative posts that should give you an idea of what to expect once you arrive.
Gents,
Headed to Bogota for the first time. Visiting my cousin who is a pro athlete there, but he'll be traveling for my first two days so I'll be entertaining myself. He's setting me up with a local he knows who's supposed to be a savvy, cool fella, however I'd still be interested to hear some rec's if you gentlemen would be so kind.
Staying on calle 53 and know absolutely nothing about the city and speak no Spanish. Looking for a nice club to go to to have a good time where a solo guy wouldn't necessarily be out of place? If I did decide to indulge myself with a couple ladies, where might I look? Not much luck searching online since I don't know Spanish. Thanks in advance for any help!
Francois Uno
09-16-15, 01:48
I'll be checking into my hotel on Calle 56 on Thursday of this week. Since you're a regular member, I don't think you can do private messaging. I myself have never been to Colombia, but I've spent the past 8 weeks doing my homework. Here's a few suggestions for you.
1) As has been said time and time again. Read the forum. Go back at least a year and a half since older posts beyond that may reference places that are no longer in business.
2) Study World Travelers maps. Bogota is the third largest city in the America's and is quite spread out. You need to have a basic understanding of how the city is laid out and the grid of Calles vs. Carrerras.
3) Go to your local library or Barnes and Noble and again, read up on the city regarding all the regular stuff it has to offer. Since you're being set up with a local, seems you'll have a built in tourist guide that should help with logistics.
You need some Spanish, especially if you're solo, but again with a local wingman, he should have your back. Bogota is a cosmopolitan city, but English is not the primary language. You're in Colombia, it's Espaol! Some of the more touristy spots I'd assume will have English signage and bilingual staff, but the local girls may not speak a lick of English, so you better cram in some basic Spanish phrases to get some common understanding going.
Again, you need to go back at least 50 pages in this forum and do your reading. After that, you may have a few unanswered questions still, but there are many informative posts that should give you an idea of what to expect once you arrive.Thanks for the reply! Checked into my place on calle 53, so pretty close to you. Met up with the Colombian guy, pretty cool. We're going to hit up a spot later tonight, I'll let you know how it goes. Let me know if you want to link up after you arrive.
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PeterSmith
09-23-15, 07:51
Are there places in Bogota that you can recommend where the atmosphere is casual and there is availability of semi-pros, students, or pros that are interested in being with foreigners.
Just returned from a first time week in Bogota. Primary purpose behind the trip was to meet up for a few days with a chica I met in SXM, that lives in Ibague, which is a 3 hour bus ride from Bogota. Needless to say, we did connect and had a fairly good time. I'll spare everyone the details. She did meet me at the airport and we did spend a few days together. It was all right, but I wanted to experience the other offerings of the city and ended up salvaging a final few days to myself. I'm going to present this in bullet point form as to the Pros and Cons of Bogota for my initial visit. Be forewarned that some of my comments reflect my OPINION and may not necessarily be what you think or have experienced, so take what I write for what it's worth and remember that everyone is entitled to an opinion.
PRO's.
- Upon entry into the country, El Dorado Airport's new International Terminal is quite impressive. Clean, state of the art, and probably the safest place in Colombia!
- Citibank ATM right in the airport with English instructions and very good exchange rate. Contact your bank before leaving for Colombia and tell them you intend to use your ATM card in Colombia. Avoid using it for debit purchases though, since there are skimming / fraud problems that can happen.
- Best bang for your buck right now is Colombia. Look up the dollar vs. Peso rate and you'll see why.
- La Candaleria is a great tourist area. Oldest part of town, many cafes, restaurants and historical stuff to see.
- If you want to earn some points from the man upstairs after all the debauchery you partake in, visit Monsterrat on a Sunday. Be gutsy like me and walk up the 3000 meter plus incline trail. Totally safe on a Sunday. Vendors along the way selling food and drink. 2 dollar Poker beer comes out to like 66 cents or something like that. Historical Church at the summit. Unbelievable view, vendors, food, real party atmosphere. If you want a picture of yourself and a llama, this is for you! LOL!
- Centro area has great shopping. From high end / upscale stores to flea market type setups. I learned about the shopping from my novia.
- Transmilnio Bus system is pretty good. My chica had a card and I loaded 10000 mil on it and off we went. Just keep everything in your front pockets, since the buses get packed.
- This really isn't a pro, but more of an observation. The street signs are placed on the building at the corner of the Calle and Carrera intersection, so you have to kind of hunt them out to get your point of reference. Calles are streets running east to west, Carrerra's are avenues running north to south.
- I stayed at the Abitaire 56 Hotel in the Chapinero area (Calle 56). My chica friend checked in with me and there was no problem or extra charge, since I made the reservation for 2 and all they asked for was to make a copy of her passport as they did mine.
OK. So for fear of losing all I've typed I'm going to post this and come back with the Con's of Bogota. Again, from my perspective.
OK, so Bogota, isn't the Caribbean. But by the way, bring sunscreen! My face got roasted. Despite the coolness and the elevation. You're almost at the equator and the sun if super strong. Leave the shorts at home and bring a light jacket.
Cons.
- Bogota is huge in terms of land area. Although I did my fair share of walking, you'll need to either master the Transmilenio bus system, or rely on taxis. When you get picked up the meter should start a 25 and there should be a rate card in the pocket in the seat in front of you. There are surcharges though that you need to watch out for. I. e. If you go from one zone to another and some other BS. I think enough's been written about taxi's on this forum.
- Traffic. Too many cars, and if you don't watch out, you can get killed. You need to be super vigilant crossing any intersection and don't rely on the crosswalk light. Look both ways all the time. Aside from the cars, Bogota is motorbike / cycle central. They drive just as nuts as the taxi guys.
- Never, and I repeat never, rent a car in Bogota, unless you have a burning desire to experience having to utilize the Collision Damage Waiver aspect of the insurance coverage. I saw the back end of no less than a half dozen accidents during the time I was there.
- You can get seriously hurt by just walking down the street. There are tons of electrical utility box covers that are off leaving good sized holes in the sidewalk that go down far enough for you to either break or twist an ankle of fall flat on your face. Watch where you walk.
- The people. I found them to be impersonal and not friendly at all. I was the only gringo in Chapinero from what I saw. I was basically ignored and when I tried to engage someone in Spanish, they were very standoffish. I only encountered a few people that could speak any English. These people were cordial, but for the most part, I didn't get a warm and fuzzy feeling from the locals.
- Dogs. Colombians, and especially the security firms, have a fascination with aggressive breed dogs and they love to showcase them with muzzles on them. This was somewhat intimidating.
- Santa Fe. Needless to say, as someone posted on here in the past, it's a dump. I will give a separate post with more details.
- Casas in Chapinaro, Calle's 60 and north. Went to one on Calle 71. Chica Millenio or something to that effect. It had a bunch of guys hanging out in front and this was 10 in the morning. Guy asked me if I were looking for chicas and I didn't have a good vibe to the area so I said no. Was in somewhat of a residential area near a college type building.
- The mezzanine near Dann Carlton Hotel. Checked this place out my last day en route to the airport. Sampled the goods in one of the establishments. Talk about a broom closet! You've got to be kidding me! Talent was about the best I saw my entire trip. Actually the best talent I saw was at the airport, probably leaving Bogota and going to SXM or somewhere else.
I rise early and made it a point to be back in my hotel by sundown, since Chapinero can be somewhat seedy itself. I can cross Colombia off my bucket list and be proud to say I survived without any MAJOR incident, but I'll get to that in my Sante Fe report. I can see why the real hotties want to go elsewhere since there's more money to be made outside of Colombia. The chica I was with in the mezzanine, quoted 100,000 mil for full service and I didn't even question it, since $35 bucks it what is was going to come out to, and I needed to ditch pesos, before I left the country.
I don't think I'll be returning to Bogota, but it does offer some cultural attractions and I'm sure at night, things pick up in the clubs, but quite frankly, I didn't want to deal with the unknowns, being a first time visitor.
Hope some of this is helpful and be safe in Colombia!
So after I "shed" my novia, I decided to walk from Calle 56 down to Santa Fe this past Saturday. I felt pretty comfortable about the walk down Carrera 14 since the Transmilenio went through it and I had scouted the route out taking the bus with my novia to La Candaleria the day before. I had no problem making the walk to Santa Fe, aside from just being vigilant about crossing every street, looking out for traffic. Again, I can't reiterate enough, you can very easily get hit by a car / taxi / sport motorcycle if you don't pay attention.
So I make it to Santa Fe and I'm not impressed. Place smells, is dirty and since it's a Saturday, it's a zoo. Hold that thought about it being a zoo on a Saturday. The complexion will change drastically in a couple of days. So since the place is so busy, I blend in rather well wearing black jeans, black T-shirt, light black jacket and black sneakers. I walk around and go places I probalby shouldn't have and have no problem. I find a little supermarket called Danny's Supermercado and the lady working there is nice and it's 2000 mil for a beer which she had to unlock the freezer to get for me, but this became my HQ or Fortress of Solitude, since I knew her price schedule and she was a good vendor. (Again, we're talking less than a buck for a beer, takeout).
Now since it was a Saturday it was very busy in Santa Fe. But what was different was that tons of guys on the sport bikes, (not Harley's), were driving around like idiots scoping out the chicas standing outside of what appeared to be parking garages. It was a traffic nightmare and more of a nightmare to try to cross the street. I'm walking around and quite frankly, nothing interested me. It would be a stretch to say there was a six out there during the day. The talent level was very disappointing and quite frankly, I still can't figure out how the system works, nor did I have any interest in finding out.
Now I arrived in Santa Fe around noon and now I've pounded quite a few beers and need to take a leak. The clubs such as Atunes, Friebe, etc. On Carrerra 16 aren't open yet, so I'm looking for somewhere to take a whiz. I walk down toward Calle 19 and notice I've entered the tranny zone but see a small bar with it's door open, so I figure I'd duck in, buy a beer and take a leak. A tranny follows me in and propositions me, I say no gracias, and then she goes to the hallway adjoining the bar to what appeared to be the entrance to their short term hotel where they do their business. Anyway, I order a beer, spy the urinal and take a much needed leak for 2500 mil, beer included. Now I'm looking around and the place is full of guys and some are watching some Colombian comedy show on TV and others are gazing upwards and I notice they've got a TV placed up on the second floor showing tranny porn. I finish my beer take another leak and off I go. I scout around the 22 and 23 Calles and again, nothing I would even give any thought to.
Around the corner there is some commotion going on. Some locals getting into it, but for all the "Police" patrols in Santa Fe during the day, nobody can be found. So while on that subject let's talk about the "Police".
There are several layers of police in Colombia. National Police which you see at the airport, Military Police because Bogota is after all the capital, Dignitary police, helping with escorting diplomats, real police, those that carry a weapon, and the junior cadet, crossing guard, want to be police, that have a fluorescent vest on and carry a nightstick, but act like girls in a brothel checking there cell phones all the time.
Santa Fe is patrolled by the crossing guard police, which are about as useful as tits on a bull. You'll see why in my next post.
So now the hour is a bit past 2 pm And from what I read, that's when some of the clubs open up. I head over to Atunes, which is now open and I'm greeted like a celebrity and there's no one there, since the club just opened. I found all the other joints mentioned here, but guess I was too early to get a full appreciation. The street scene / window? Scene didn't impress me at all, so after a couple of hours circling the same blocks, I opted to head back to my hotel, with no interest in returning at night either by foot or taxi, although it would have been taxi for sure.
I might have missed out on the first team later in the evening, but if they were anything like the day shift, I'm glad I did.
OK, so now after having experienced Santa Fe this past Saturday, and taken a respite from the mongering scene by climbing Montserrat on Sunday, I decided to check Santa Fe district out during the day, again this past Monday. I walk my usual route and get to Santa Fe, but am surprised how few people are there for a Monday vs. The Saturday. The place is somewhat of a ghost town but traffic is still heavy for a block on Calle 23 with taxi drivers gawking at the talent standing out on the street. So now here's where the wheels started to fall off for me.
I get to the center of the action and there's a panhandler in the street that locks on to me and says, hey, gringo, give me some money for food (in Spanish). I ignore him and zig and zag my way out of there. I'm amazed at how desolate the place is compared to 2 days previously. Now for point of reference, it's about 12:15 pm In the afternoon, broad daylight. There were some chicas out and some might have been new, but I decided to wander down to Danny's supermarket and grab a beer to have in hand for my tour. What I did notice was a high concentration of tranny's that had moved north from their usual spot and how they had skillfully tried to integrate themselves in amongst the girls working out of the parking garages.
So just before I go into Danny's to grab a can of Aguila (local beer), some crack head tranny makes eye contact with me and is on me like flies on shit. "It" starts rambling on in Spanish, I duck in to by my beer with 20000 mil and "it" sees me getting change. I stay in the store a bit thinking "it" will move along and this son of a * is waiting for me outside. I leave and head up toward where more people are and this piece of shit won't go away. I keep saying, no gracias, no gracias and get to a real busy area, thinking "it" will tale off, and no, this scumbag is still up my ass. Now I'm feeling agitated and decide to head to the Avenue with traffic and potentially crossing guard cops. I make it out to the Avenue and start heading north and this crackhead tranny is still telling me to give "it" money. Now I'm pissed and see two "police" ahead. I yell at "it" and say and getting the police and "it" is still not phasesd. So I get to the 2 police cadets and tell them that this piece of shit is harassing me and get "it" off my back. They stare at me like deer in the headlights. I continue walking north and still can't shake this jerk and now notice "it's" got a bottle of mace / pepper spray in it's hand threatening me. I could have taken this POS out with one punch to the face or broken the skinny bitches arm to get it to drop the pepper spray, but in a fleeting moment, it dawned on me, that how would it look if I punched out a Colombian tranny. I'd be charged with assault. And trust me after the way things turned out, it was the right move to restrain myself.
So seeing "it" being aggressive with pepper spray in hand I decide to turn around and head back to the two dumbfounded "police". Now we've got a full fledged incident going on. She's screaming, I feel totally unprotected by the cops from a legal perspective (I'm 6'2" but this tranny saw me eye to eye) so I'm not looking for them to protect me, I just want them to get this idiot off my back. I giving my best in Spanish explaining that this thing is harassing me and these wannabe kid cops are looking at me like I've got 3 heads.
Now this just so happens outside a guy who had an upholstery shop and he's taking everything in. I look to him ask him if he speaks any English, he says yes, I explain that I was just walking and this crackhead is all over me. He tells me to go use the bathroom in the back of his shop, meaning he's trying to help diffuse the situation, as now we have 6 police cadets appear and a mob scene brewing.
I go to the back of his store and his wife and sister come to me and say, just pay her and get rid of her? Pay "it", for what? I didn't do anything wrong. Now we're up to 9 police cadets and they are offering me nothing in terms of covering my back or being my advocate.
The store owner comes back to me and says that I owe this Tranny for a blowjob she gave me and that I didn't pay and she won't leave until she's paid. I say what? You've got to be fucking kidding me? I'm angry and laughing at the same time to think that these fucking idiotic kid cops would think that I would stoop so low as to let this potentially AIDS infected crackhead anywhere near my junk.
So now we've got a Mexican standoff and the only person at this point that I have any respect for is the shipowner. Since he was cool about telling me to go use his bathroom to get me away from the situation, I now say to him I don't understand totally and hand him my cheat pad with pen and say "escribe por favor". He writes in English to me that to make this go away, give the fucking tranny 8 bucks, bite the bullet and that will get these cops off your back and I know you didn't do anything wrong. Now remember I just bought a beer for 2000 mil so I think if I pull out 8 mil on the button, they're going to further believe "it's" story. So I grab 10000 mil and slap it in the cops hand and for all that theatrics, it was one hell of a show for about three dollars and 33 cents.
What a f*cking scam, extortion game. I know the money is negligible, but it's the principle. At no point was I asked for my passport or any identification, which one would think would be the first thing these cops would ask for to validate my identity. It was almost as if they've seen this game played before.
Bottom line, I had this impression before this happened, and unless the 10's come out at night, or even a bevy of 8's, avoid Santa Fe. Just my opinion from a seasoned world traveler.
OK, so now after having experienced Santa Fe this past Saturday, and taken a respite from the mongering scene by climbing Montserrat on Sunday, I decided to check Santa Fe district out during the day, again this past Monday. I walk my usual route and get to Santa Fe, but am surprised how few people are there for a Monday vs. The Saturday. The place is somewhat of a ghost town but traffic is still heavy for a block on Calle 23 with taxi drivers gawking at the talent standing out on the street. So now here's where the wheels started to fall off for me.
I get to the center of the action and there's a panhandler in the street that locks on to me and says, hey, gringo, give me some money for food (in Spanish). I ignore him and zig and zag my way out of there. I'm amazed at how desolate the place is compared to 2 days previously. Now for point of reference, it's about 12:15 pm In the afternoon, broad daylight. There were some chicas out and some might have been new, but I decided to wander down to Danny's supermarket and grab a beer to have in hand for my tour. What I did notice was a high concentration of tranny's that had moved north from their usual spot and how they had skillfully tried to integrate themselves in amongst the girls working out of the parking garages.
So just before I go into Danny's to grab a can of Aguila (local beer), some crack head tranny makes eye contact with me and is on me like flies on shit. "It" starts rambling on in Spanish, I duck in to by my beer with 20000 mil and "it" sees me getting change. I stay in the store a bit thinking "it" will move along and this son of a * is waiting for me outside. I leave and head up toward where more people are and this piece of shit won't go away. I keep saying, no gracias, no gracias and get to a real busy area, thinking "it" will tale off, and no, this scumbag is still up my ass. Now I'm feeling agitated and decide to head to the Avenue with traffic and potentially crossing guard cops. I make it out to the Avenue and start heading north and this crackhead tranny is still telling me to give "it" money. Now I'm pissed and see two "police" ahead. I yell at "it" and say and getting the police and "it" is still not phasesd. So I get to the 2 police cadets and tell them that this piece of shit is harassing me and get "it" off my back. They stare at me like deer in the headlights. I continue walking north and still can't shake this jerk and now notice "it's" got a bottle of mace / pepper spray in it's hand threatening me...First and for most what Mexicans had to do with this situation and if you were using the term "mexicans" to point out two Colombians arguing / talking then sir you deserve what just happen to you.
Second, this board points out that Sanfate is not the best, unless you fully understand the underground and dirty scene that is beyond "paisas" and the other places in that are and the best to avoid any of this is to be with a local.
Are there places in Bogota that you can recommend where the atmosphere is casual and there is availability of semi-pros, students, or pros that are interested in being with foreigners.Zona T (zona rosa)(specifically for students).
Obviously, you have no clue about American phrases and terms and what their underlying meaning is. And since you appear to be clueless, this had nothing to do with Mexicans. Next, you obviously didn't read my post or understand it, since I didn't deserve to be harassed for just walking down a street. My trip reports were intended to be informative and useful for others so they can learn from members previous experiences and be further armed with as much intel as possible, in the event they decided to venture to Santa Fe. I suggest that you give your fingers a rest and post only when you have something of value to give back to the board.
First and for most what Mexicans had to do with this situation and if you were using the term "mexicans" to point out two Colombians arguing / talking then sir you deserve what just happen to you.
Second, this board points out that Sanfate is not the best, unless you fully understand the underground and dirty scene that is beyond "paisas" and the other places in that are and the best to avoid any of this is to be with a local.
Very sorry ClubTed for your bad experience. I came also to Colombia after my amazing experiences in SXM, but that was nearly 10 years ago. At that time traffic was not the issue it is now, there were very few foreigners who dared to come to Colombia and girls looked at me in the street with open mouth. I had the blast of my life and felt in love of the country forever. I guess it was also because I was 10 years younger. I now live here, love the country, the people, the food, the culture, the music, the party atmosfere. Bogota has changed a lot however, traffic made the people change in stressed and unpolite people, foreigners are not as exotic anymore as it used to be. Another reason of your bad experience is that you hardly speak spanish. Without spanish you lose 90% of the interaction with the people which is the best part of Colombia and dangerous situations get easily out of hand.
I don't want to look as if I'm giving lessons, but Sante Fe just is one of the most dangerous areas in Colombia. Yes, Colombia is not as dangerous as it is used to be, you will not get kidnapped or killed by guerilla, but petty crime and scams have an extremely high rate. Going as a foreigner, first timer, alone, and without speaking spanish in the zona de tolerencia is just looking for trouble. It just isn't worth it. The experience you will get in SXM, Curacao or Aruba is way better than Santa Fe. There is a simple reason for that: in the Caribbean, the girls are alone, far from their country and their family and have deep emotional needs. Going to Colombia just for the pro scene is not worth it.
Learn Spanish, meet the girls you met in SXM in their normal life, do a couple of all nighter from the upper scale clubs, try the amateur scene, get out of Bogota and you will have the experience of your life in Colombia.
Thanks for the reply Routard! I remember reading many of your posts on the SXM board. Aside from the one incident I enjoyed Colombia and had no other problems. Yes there are tons of cars and I figured out that the people walking around wearing surgical masks, weren't medical professionals. They're trying to preserve their lungs due to what I assume is the poor air quality. Their are many walking around with surgical masks. First I thought there was some epidemic going around. LOL! I speak enough Spanish to get by. I just ran into the wrong whack job this past Monday. In retrospect, I should have given "it" 2000 mil when I left the mercado and that might have done the trick. But hey, then I wouldn't have had a story to tell, would I?
This past Sunday, they closed down Carrerra 7 (southbound) and it was loaded with joggers and bicyclists. I walked from Calle 56 (my hotel) all the way down to the base of Montserrat. Didn't see the Cable car working, so I decided to do the pilgrimage and walk up the path to the summit. Made it to the top, hung out for a bit, then made the descent and walked all the way back to my hotel at Calle 56 without incident.
Again, had it not been for this one isolated incident this past Monday, I would have pulled off a flawless trip. I just wanted to share my story, so that others could take note and be forewarned about what they might get themselves into by going to Santa Fe. Again, it was like two different Santa Fe's. Saturday vs. Monday. Whether you're in Bogota, or NYC, if you run into a desperate crackhead tranny at the wrong time, shit can happen anywhere.
Thanks for reaching out and glad you're doing well in Colombia! As for me. I prefer walking around in shorts and a tank top, so SXM might be calling me next month!
Very sorry ClubTed for your bad experience. I came also to Colombia after my amazing experiences in SXM, but that was nearly 10 years ago. At that time traffic was not the issue it is now, there were very few foreigners who dared to come to Colombia and girls looked at me in the street with open mouth. I had the blast of my life and felt in love of the country forever. I guess it was also because I was 10 years younger. I now live here, love the country, the people, the food, the culture, the music, the party atmosfere. Bogota has changed a lot however, traffic made the people change in stressed and unpolite people, foreigners are not as exotic anymore as it used to be. Another reason of your bad experience is that you hardly speak spanish. Without spanish you lose 90% of the interaction with the people which is the best part of Colombia and dangerous situations get easily out of hand.
I don't want to look as if I'm giving lessons, but Sante Fe just is one of the most dangerous areas in Colombia. Yes, Colombia is not as dangerous as it is used to be, you will not get kidnapped or killed by guerilla, but petty crime and scams have an extremely high rate..
First and for most what Mexicans had to do with this situation and if you were using the term "mexicans" to point out two Colombians arguing / talking then sir you deserve what just happen to you.
So funny, I had to respond.
The guy, ClubTed, said he was in a Mexican standoff.
So now we've got a Mexican standoff and the only person at this point that I have any respect for is the shipowner.
It's an expression, not a put down.
Wikipedia dictionary:
"A Mexican standoff is a confrontation between at least three parties in which no party can proceed nor retreat without being exposed to danger".
No reason to get all angry over a common expression dude, Lol
So funny, I had to respond.
The guy, ClubTed, said he was in a Mexican standoff.
It's an expression, not a put down.
Wikipedia dictionary:
"A Mexican standoff is a confrontation between at least three parties in which no party can proceed nor retreat without being exposed to danger".
No reason to get all angry over a common expression dude, LolI apologize, guess I didn't read far enough to get the whole thing. Moving on with the Santa Fe situation, yes that section is pretty bad mainly because a lot of the organize crime "meetings" if you could say that take place among other underground (guns purchases, gun exchange, drugs and money laundering) stuff, sometimes take place during the night at the places such as paisas. But everything is not bad, a lot of the 8-10 girl will go there (mainly from Medellin and Cali) and you could score big for not much and not just your typical 20 m action.
Hey Club Ted. Thanks for the great reports. I really appreciate your information since, like you have done, I have been contemplating venturing away from SXM on some future mongering trip. While I have considered Aruba and Curacao, I did meet a very lovely (and talented) chica earlier this year in SXM and was giving serious consideration to paying a visit to the fatherland. Although I surely would like to spend some quality time in Bogota with my "novia" I would like to have the chance to venture out solo to test the waters too. Now I am a little hesitant to possibly have my time spoiled by some unfortunate incident such as the one you described. Having spent quite some time in Peru and Bolivia many years ago I still am comfortable with speaking Spanish. This may or may not, however, be of help in resolving a tricky situation as you have presented. Who knows. Like you said you could run into problems anywhere but in NYC or here in LA I'm sure you nor I are too likely to place ourselves in a location that could lead to similar problems.
In spite of my intentions to be a bit more adventurous, I resisted the urge am planning on another visit to SXM. While a visit to Colombia is still on the bucket list the fact that I am now very comfortable visiting the casas on SXM, knowing kind of how things work, the relative ease of "point and shoot" mongering on the island sounds more and more appealing. We will see. If I am fortunate enough to repeat the fantastic experiences I've had with the ladies on SXM in the past, the urge to go seek more in Bogota could still be in the cards.
Damn, didn't know you were in Bogota through Monday. I was there Sunday night until Tuesday morning. I was in Santa Fe on Monday from about 4 PM until 9:30 PM at night, I should have hit you up. Sorry you had a bad experience, I actually had a good time this past Monday but you have to hit the right clubs at the right time. Atunes was actually good (not great) in the late afternoon, and La Piscina had a few beautiful chicas in the early evening. El Castillo was the last place I hit up and was absolutely solid, but you left before it opens at 8 PM. I honestly think if you had hit up more of the clubs later in the evening, you would have liked it more but if your experience earlier in the day isn't going well then I can understand why you wouldn't want to give it a shot at night either. Santa Fe is going to be one of those places where you either have the tolerance for the negative things, or you simply don't and it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
I went to Chicas Milenio as well, I want to say about 10-12 chicas and 3 that I would say are very good looking. The rest were mostly OK, I selected a tall chica for an hour. Price was 100 k for an hour which included BBBJ, DFK, CFS, and Anal. The only thing she offered extra was BBBJ which I paid 40 k for, the standard rate was 60 k for an hour that included CBJ and CFS. It was my first time there, and it is directly across from Chicas 2000. It's one block down from one of the universities, fairly easy to locate and there are a couple guys standing outside the casas that will give you the hint you're at the right place.
Bogota is definitely not easy, and it's a city that can overwhelm people. The traffic is horrible, but the Transmilenio works for me and this time around I stayed at the JW Marriott on Calle 73. Very nice hotel and in a location which has some good eating options within walking distance. At night though (especially on a Sunday night), it gets quiet enough to where it might be better to take a taxi. Security at the hotel was pretty tight too especially during the day, and it was quite busy. You can walk to the Transmilenio station in maybe 12-15 minutes and Chicas 2000/ Milenio is right near the station as well. Made it easy to go from there to Santa Fe although the buses were packed, as always.
Thanks for the reply Routard! I remember reading many of your posts on the SXM board. Aside from the one incident I enjoyed Colombia and had no other problems. Yes there are tons of cars and I figured out that the people walking around wearing surgical masks, weren't medical professionals. They're trying to preserve their lungs due to what I assume is the poor air quality. Their are many walking around with surgical masks. First I thought there was some epidemic going around. LOL! I speak enough Spanish to get by. I just ran into the wrong whack job this past Monday. In retrospect, I should have given "it" 2000 mil when I left the mercado and that might have done the trick. But hey, then I wouldn't have had a story to tell, would I?
This past Sunday, they closed down Carrerra 7 (southbound) and it was loaded with joggers and bicyclists. I walked from Calle 56 (my hotel) all the way down to the base of Montserrat. Didn't see the Cable car working, so I decided to do the pilgrimage and walk up the path to the summit. Made it to the top, hung out for a bit, then made the descent and walked all the way back to my hotel at Calle 56 without incident.
Again, had it not been for this one isolated incident this past Monday, I would have pulled off a flawless trip. I just wanted to share my story, so that others could take note and be forewarned about what they might get themselves into by going to Santa Fe. Again, it was like two different Santa Fe's. Saturday vs. Monday. Whether you're in Bogota, or NYC, if you run into a desperate crackhead tranny at the wrong time, shit can happen anywhere.
Thanks for reaching out and glad you're doing well in Colombia! As for me. I prefer walking around in shorts and a tank top, so SXM might be calling me next month!
LatinaLover#1
09-25-15, 06:42
Ted,
Parts of your story are hilarious. Some good lessons there for all of us. However, for a seasoned traveler I think you made a few errors. One, by basically running from the tranny you became prey. Two, nobody says "no gracias", I believe waving your index finger back and forth saying "no moleste", would probably have worked better. In any case you should have talked to her / him and to diffuse the situation. Once you realized 'it' wasn't going to give up, I would have said that I just finished up with a girl and won't be ready for a while but here's 5000 pesos, (less then $2) go have a beer on me. I really believed it would have worked better. I have been confronted a time or two by aggressive panhandlers and putas in Santa fe always stood up to them and spoke firmly and they eventually got the message. Also, you expected the cops to protect you from a tranny?? Remember you are in a city where they see people getting shot and stabbed on the street for their cell phone daily, protecting a gringo sex tourist from a tranny is little more then amusement for them. As far as the most dangerous place in Colombia goes, I believe it to be Buenaventura, I know some Colombians who must go there for business on occasion and they won't even go out for dinner at night, they order delivery to the hotel. All in all I love Colombia and Bogota. The traffic has become intolerable from the 70's to the park 93 area, especially with some recent road closures in the area, so I try to stay in Chico Navarre area around CL. 109. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks for your input. In retrospect, you are correct, I could of / should of handled things differently. Just didn't expect the tag-along to go beyond a block, and especially during broad daylight. And the can of pepper spray / mace wasn't expected, but I guess it was better than a knife! This was my maiden voyage to Bogota, and I garnered a ton of intel and feel much better equipped to make a return trip, if I were to do so. Nothing against Bogota, but the urban setting just doesn't do it for me. Kind of thought I was in New York City. I'm a tropical, shorts and tank top guy and love the water and a place with a pool, and unfortunately, Bogota doesn't offer that. But I'm glad I checked out Colombia. That's more than anything anybody that's plopped down on a barstool in their local tavern can say! And I had the balls to do it by myself. I have enough frequent flyer miles to cover a free flight to the Caribbean or back to Colombia. SXM is my honey hole, but have Curacao on the bucket list, but have read mixed reviews about the lineup and read they bumped the price up as well. Maybe I'll return to Bogota and try to reclaim my 10000 mil, wouldn't that be a hoot! LOL! ClubTed OUT!
Ted,
Parts of your story are hilarious. Some good lessons there for all of us. However, for a seasoned traveler I think you made a few errors. One, by basically running from the tranny you became prey. Two, nobody says "no gracias", I believe waving your index finger back and forth saying "no moleste", would probably have worked better. In any case you should have talked to her / him and to diffuse the situation. Once you realized 'it' wasn't going to give up, I would have said that I just finished up with a girl and won't be ready for a while but here's 5000 pesos, (less then $2) go have a beer on me. I really believed it would have worked better. I have been confronted a time or two by aggressive panhandlers and putas in Santa fe always stood up to them and spoke firmly and they eventually got the message. Also, you expected the cops to protect you from a tranny?? Remember you are in a city where they see people getting shot and stabbed on the street for their cell phone daily, protecting a gringo sex tourist from a tranny is little more then amusement for them. As far as the most dangerous place in Colombia goes, I believe it to be Buenaventura, I know some Colombians who must go there for business on occasion and they won't even go out for dinner at night, they order delivery to the hotel. All in all I love Colombia and Bogota. The traffic has become intolerable from the 70's to the park 93 area, especially with some recent road closures in the area, so I try to stay in Chico Navarre area around CL. 109. Thanks for sharing your experience.
We should thank ClubTed for his honesty in what could be perceived as an embarrassing incident. It actually sounds very funny in print, but I bet it was kind of scary when it actually happened.
I think you did alright, you shouldn't totally cross off Santa Fe. You probably bit more than you can chew because the street scene in Santa Fe is definitely more intense than similar street areas in Medellin, and solid Spanish is pretty much a necessity (in my opinion) to play the street game safely and the right way.
So I'd say just avoid the street scene for now and check out the famous night spots in the early evening (Paisas, Piscina, Castillo). These venues can get pretty pricey compared to the daytime street scene, but basically you cab it there and back to your place (or a nearby love motel if you don't want to do the girl in-house) so there's no real security issue, you're not walking around alone at night.
I'm surprised you didn't check out La Forty-Nine; it's a famous spot on Calle 49 (get it?) near where you where staying in Chapinero. Would have been a quick, cheap, and easy cab ride there and back. The club itself is not cheap, especially if you're coming in with the first-time gringo vibe, but I still think it's worth a visit. It's a fun, safe place to go and I've even had a delicious meal (one of those Colombian stews) there at 3 in the morning.
Going back to your incident, I have to point out the Danny supermercado is a known corner where some trannies hang. It's true their main "drag" (pun intended) is a block down starting at the corner of Carrera 16 and Calle 20 going down to Calle 19 but they also hang at the corner of Calle 21 where the Danny mini-mart is located. I've even seen some YouTube videos showing this.
Your mistake was hanging out too long in this area. You might give off a vibe of a type of gringo who's interested in trannies but is not ready yet to pull the trigger so to speak.
Also, this is more of an advanced psychology thing, so I don't blame you if you didn't know this, but never lock eyes with anyone you think might be a bit cracked in the head or is whacked out on drugs. They will latch onto you no matter what you say or do! I learned this the hard way myself with a crazy dude in the New York city subway; my incident was not as bad as yours, but I was kicking myself later at my error.
It's okay (important even) to establish brief eye contact with young guys walking your way (alone or in pairs) in Santa Fe and similar street areas. Just look at them briefly, put your hands in your jean or jacket pockets, and keep walking at the same pace nonchalantly. That lets them know you're not an easy mark or target.
As for the money thing, it's a tough call. If you plan to visit a street scene regularly, you don't want to be known as the gringo who gives free tips just because a bum or other character comes up to you and asks for a gift. But with today's exchange rates, it's not really so bad is it? It's important to carry a bunch of 1 and 2 thousand peso bills, not just as tips for taxistas, but for these kinds of situations. Even just tossing that tranny crackhead a coin or two might have been enough to shake him out of his obsession with you.
I'll admit that if a guy asks me for some change, and I'm in a situation where I feel a bit "cornered," I'll handle it like this: shrug my shoulders while digging into my pocket with the small bills, carefully taking out ONE bill while not showing any other, and just give it to the guy without looking at him. I don't say a word or establish eye contact. Then I try to leave the area as quickly as possible (in case it's a mark type of situation for a robbery).
Overall, good advice. I personally walk around Santa Fe wearing a non-branded jacket, basic jeans, and casual / tennis shoes with my hands in my pockets, and I blend in fine. During the day and early evening you'll see plenty of people walking around even in suits. And a person really needs to walk with some authority and look like they know where they are going. I had missed a turn on my very first to Santa Fe a few months back and walked into the Tranny area, did so for a couple blocks before I walked into a supermarket and looked at google maps on my phone (do this discretely and in a store / restaurant always for less visibility). Went down a street and over in the opposite direction to get back on track as I figured going the immediate opposite direction would make me walk by people I had walked by before, and possibly increase the risk for me and I wanted to give the impression that I knew where I was going. That's just how I think anyways. I also don't like to get stopped on the streets by anyone, whether they are trying to sell something, ask for something, even if it's just some money for whatever purpose. I keep walking at my normal pace, I'm sure that some pickpocketers work in teams and it's possible that they will use someone on the street to create a small distraction to stop a person. This is the way I look at these things in Colombia however, and others may view it differently and might be OK with giving a mil peso or two mils to diffuse a situation, and it really is a small amount. I prefer to get off the transmilenio stop and walk around the 2-3 blocks in Santa Fe, and I don't have any issues. I think knowing where the transmilenio stop is, is probably going to be your best bet if you think you're being followed or harassed by someone. The riders don't want to see disruptions and annoyances, and neither do the "police" that patrol the stops. At least in my experience.
We should thank ClubTed for his honesty in what could be perceived as an embarrassing incident. It actually sounds very funny in print, but I bet it was kind of scary when it actually happened.
I think you did alright, you shouldn't totally cross off Santa Fe. You probably bit more than you can chew because the street scene in Santa Fe is definitely more intense than similar street areas in Medellin, and solid Spanish is pretty much a necessity (in my opinion) to play the street game safely and the right way.
So I'd say just avoid the street scene for now and check out the famous night spots in the early evening (Paisas, Piscina, Castillo). These venues can get pretty pricey compared to the daytime street scene, but basically you cab it there and back to your place (or a nearby love motel if you don't want to do the girl in-house) so there's no real security issue, you're not walking around alone at night.
I'm surprised you didn't check out La Forty-Nine; it's a famous spot on Calle 49 (get it?) near where you where staying in Chapinero. Would have been a quick, cheap, and easy cab ride there and back. The club itself is not cheap, especially if you're coming in with the first-time gringo vibe, but I still think it's worth a visit. It's a fun, safe place to go and I've even had a delicious meal (one of those Colombian stews) there at 3 in the morning.
Going back to your incident, I have to point out the Danny supermercado is a known corner where some trannies hang. It's true their main "drag" (pun intended) is a block down starting at the corner of Carrera 16 and Calle 20 going down to Calle 19 but they also hang at the corner of Calle 21 where the Danny mini-mart is located. I've even seen some YouTube videos showing this.
Your mistake was hanging out too long in this area. You might give off a vibe of a type of gringo who's interested in trannies but is not ready yet to pull the trigger so to speak.
Also, this is more of an advanced psychology thing, so I don't blame you if you didn't know this, but never lock eyes with anyone you think might be a bit cracked in the head or is whacked out on drugs. They will latch onto you no matter what you say or do! I learned this the hard way myself with a crazy dude in the New York city subway; my incident was not as bad as yours, but I was kicking myself later at my error.
It's okay (important even) to establish brief eye contact with young guys walking your way (alone or in pairs) in Santa Fe and similar street areas. Just look at them briefly, put your hands in your jean or jacket pockets, and keep walking at the same pace nonchalantly. That lets them know you're not an easy mark or target.
As for the money thing, it's a tough call. If you plan to visit a street scene regularly, you don't want to be known as the gringo who gives free tips just because a bum or other character comes up to you and asks for a gift. But with today's exchange rates, it's not really so bad is it? It's important to carry a bunch of 1 and 2 thousand peso bills, not just as tips for taxistas, but for these kinds of situations. Even just tossing that tranny crackhead a coin or two might have been enough to shake him out of his obsession with you.
I'll admit that if a guy asks me for some change, and I'm in a situation where I feel a bit "cornered," I'll handle it like this: shrug my shoulders while digging into my pocket with the small bills, carefully taking out ONE bill while not showing any other, and just give it to the guy without looking at him. I don't say a word or establish eye contact. Then I try to leave the area as quickly as possible (in case it's a mark type of situation for a robbery).
European Man
09-27-15, 16:54
Hi guys,
Somebody could explain me where are located and how are named brothels (No lap dance, gentleman clubs or silly places like that!) of Bogotá where you can pay 10-30 euro per 1 hour? Is it Santa Fe? Do you know if there are some specialized to offer black girls?
Again, somebody could gently recommend me an hotel close to brothels for 30-60 euro per night?
Thank you very much.
Thanks for your input. In retrospect, you are correct, I could of / should of handled things differently. Just didn't expect the tag-along to go beyond a block, and especially during broad daylight. And the can of pepper spray / mace wasn't expected, but I guess it was better than a knife! This was my maiden voyage to Bogota, and I garnered a ton of intel and feel much better equipped to make a return trip, if I were to do so. Nothing against Bogota, but the urban setting just doesn't do it for me. Kind of thought I was in New York City. I'm a tropical, shorts and tank top guy and love the water and a place with a pool, and unfortunately, Bogota doesn't offer that. But I'm glad I checked out Colombia. That's more than anything anybody that's plopped down on a barstool in their local tavern can say! And I had the balls to do it by myself. I have enough frequent flyer miles to cover a free flight to the Caribbean or back to Colombia. SXM is my honey hole, but have Curacao on the bucket list, but have read mixed reviews about the lineup and read they bumped the price up as well. Maybe I'll return to Bogota and try to reclaim my 10000 mil, wouldn't that be a hoot! LOL! ClubTed OUT!Now is a good time to visit Curacao believe me, I just left but will be back.
Went down a street and over in the opposite direction to get back on track as I figured going the immediate opposite direction would make me walk by people I had walked by before, and possibly increase the risk for me and I wanted to give the impression that I knew where I was going. That's just how I think anyways. I also don't like to get stopped on the streets by anyone, whether they are trying to sell something, ask for something, even if it's just some money for whatever purpose. I keep walking at my normal pace, I'm sure that some pickpocketers work in teams and it's possible that they will use someone on the street to create a small distraction to stop a person. This is the way I look at these things in Colombia however, and others may view it differently and might be OK with giving a mil peso or two mils to diffuse a situation, and it really is a small amount. I prefer to get off the transmilenio stop and walk around the 2-3 blocks in Santa Fe, and I don't have any issues. I think knowing where the transmilenio stop is, is probably going to be your best bet if you think you're being followed or harassed by someone. The riders don't want to see disruptions and annoyances, and neither do the "police" that patrol the stops. At least in my experience.Thanks for the extra tips, I should have thought of those.
If you walk back and forth the same street, it'll look like you're searching for your favorite chica or dealer; but if you're new to the scene, it could just look like you're lost.
Knowing how to quickly get back to the Transmilenio is a good idea. It's definitely true the bad guys work in bands, although they usually do so in crowded areas where Colombians do their street shopping. They will definitely use a distraction tactic, many times with a pretty chica trying to talk to you or ask you something. In Santa Fe, the general rule is that the chicas stand or sit around and you do the approach and take the initiative. So if a chica approaches you be careful, something might not be right.
World Travel 69
09-28-15, 15:46
Start here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2956-Bogota-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments
Santa Fe will be your cheapest area.
Hi guys,
Somebody could explain me where are located and how are named brothels (No lap dance, gentleman clubs or silly places like that!) of Bogota where you can pay 10-30 euro per 1 hour? Is it Santa Fe? Do you know if there are some specialized to offer black girls?
Again, somebody could gently recommend me an hotel close to brothels for 30-60 euro per night?
Thank you very much.
European Man
09-28-15, 20:40
May I ask you how much is the price for 1 hour with a girl in Santa Fe and how much is the price in Chapinero? I have seen within maps that there are a lot of brothels in Chapinero.
Performance are same in these two areas? Is possible to have the BBJ without condom?
Could be a good option to have the hotel in Chapinero moving with the taxi to Santa Fe?
Start here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2956-Bogota-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments
Santa Fe will be your cheapest area.
Sad news, 65 year old New Yorker was shot and killed after being stopped and resisting a robbery attempt. Ocurred a couple of days ago just one block away from the mansion.
After all recent discussions of the dangers in Santa Fe, heed the warnings, follow the advices and be careful out there. More information and many good tips for safety in the Medellin reports thread.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/new-yorker-killed-botched-robbery-leaving-columbia-article-1.2376002
Alright so you're not RTFF clearly, but I'll give you some quick answers starting bottom up.
1. Stay in Zona Rosa if it's your first visit. Don't stay in Santa Fe or near Santa Fe. Chapinero is fine. Don't walk around late at night and by yourself. Santa Fe is the red light district, it's run-down, it's shady, but it's not a huge area. Maybe 2-3 blocks at most. You can walk around in 5-7 minutes if you walk at a nice pace and don't stop anywhere. Use caution at night, and look like you know where you are going. I mention my advice in previous posts, and the first few pages are filled with guidance / advice.
2. Performance is always YMMV. If a girl cares about the money, which they all do, she'll do what you agree with her to do (unless she wants to scam you). If you agree to BBBJ if she offers that, then chances are you'll pay for it and you'll get it. Some will do at no cost, but YMMV. Some will charge for kissing. Others will not. Talk about it before hand, and you'll hopefully get what you pay for. If you're smelly and have bad hygiene, don't expect much. Especially BBBJ even if you offer to pay for it.
3. The price is going to vary. Santa Fe for one hour is going to be around 100 k with other fees such as for the short time hotel etc. It can add up to 120 - 150 k. It's not much money, but depends on how much you want to pay. Try out a 20 min session and then see if you want more time in the future. Something like that. You can go to a place like Chicas Milenio / Chicas 2000 which has a pretty good selection of chicas and the price for an hour will be about 60 k - 80 k. YMMV with upselling. But that should get you a CBJ and CFS at least, and the rest you'll have to figure out.
Best of luck. And seriously, RTFF.
May I ask you how much is the price for 1 hour with a girl in Santa Fe and how much is the price in Chapinero? I have seen within maps that there are a lot of brothels in Chapinero.
Performance are same in these two areas? Is possible to have the BBJ without condom?
Could be a good option to have the hotel in Chapinero moving with the taxi to Santa Fe?
So after I "shed" my novia, I decided to walk from Calle 56 down to Santa Fe this past Saturday. I felt pretty comfortable about the walk down Carrera 14 since the Transmilenio went through it and I had scouted the route out taking the bus with my novia to La Candaleria the day before. I had no problem making the walk to Santa Fe, aside from just being vigilant about crossing every street, looking out for traffic. Again, I can't reiterate enough, you can very easily get hit by a car / taxi / sport motorcycle if you don't pay attention.
So I make it to Santa Fe and I'm not impressed. Place smells, is dirty and since it's a Saturday, it's a zoo....Actually, you did Santa Fe all wrong-- Saturday is good but you have to go in the later afternoon and The night time is way better-- I prefer Wednesday Thursday night (Less Crowded--Lotsa Hot Chicas) for the Hotter street girls and for the clubs accept Attunes you have to go in the Evening Past 9 pm.
You would have had a different opinion. Sorry
By the way-- I do offer guide and visa services IM me if interested
I apologize, guess I didn't read far enough to get the whole thing. Moving on with the Santa Fe situation, yes that section is pretty bad mainly because a lot of the organize crime "meetings" if you could say that take place among other underground (guns purchases, gun exchange, drugs and money laundering) stuff, sometimes take place during the night at the places such as paisas. But everything is not bad, a lot of the 8-10 girl will go there (mainly from Medellin and Cali) and you could score big for not much and not just your typical 20 m action.Honestly -- I've been to Santa Fe hundreds of times (last time Saturday night) as I live nearby-- Never Ever had a problem with gangs. It's not Dangerous if you take normal precautions and are Street wise.
May I ask you how much is the price for 1 hour with a girl in Santa Fe and how much is the price in Chapinero? I have seen within maps that there are a lot of brothels in Chapinero.
Performance are same in these two areas? Is possible to have the BBJ without condom?
Could be a good option to have the hotel in Chapinero moving with the taxi to Santa Fe?Prices in Chapinero and Santa Fe are similar-- Usually the price for a 15-20 minute session (un rato) is $35-40 thousand pesos for a street girl-- More for extras- the Clubs in Santa Fe can be more -- I have had sessions for $40-$60 thou.
BBJ Does exist -- But sometimes the girl will say yes and than when you get to the room it's a different story-- But usually not.
Sad to lose a fellow New Yorker. Guess my experience pales on what poor John went through. Just finished reading all the posts on the Medellin thread. It could happen in Bogota as well. Can actually happen anywhere, but Colombia and taxis and motorbikes and street thugs just don't seem to be a good mix.
Sad news, 65 year old New Yorker was shot and killed after being stopped and resisting a robbery attempt. Ocurred a couple of days ago just one block away from the mansion.
After all recent discussions of the dangers in Santa Fe, heed the warnings, follow the advices and be careful out there. More information and many good tips for safety in the Medellin reports thread.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/new-yorker-killed-botched-robbery-leaving-columbia-article-1.2376002
European Man
09-29-15, 21:40
Prices in Chapinero and Santa Fe are similar-- Usually the price for a 15-20 minute session (un rato) is $35-40 thousand pesos for a street girl-- More for extras- the Clubs in Santa Fe can be more -- I have had sessions for $40-$60 thou.
BBJ Does exist -- But sometimes the girl will say yes and than when you get to the room it's a different story-- But usually not.On youtube is possible to see some videos of Santa Fe. Some (not really beautiful) women who wait within something which seems the entrance of a "garage" or something like that.
Are these Street Hookers or they simply stay "around" the entrance of a brothel?
Concerning Chapinero I did not seen that on Youtube. Are there here Street hookers?
European Man
09-29-15, 21:44
What do you mean for YMMV?
I supposed that prices were not so high. On Google maps the average price is 50 K for 1 hour. Are these maps totally not right?
Alright so you're not RTFF clearly, but I'll give you some quick answers starting bottom up.
1. Stay in Zona Rosa if it's your first visit. Don't stay in Santa Fe or near Santa Fe. Chapinero is fine. Don't walk around late at night and by yourself. Santa Fe is the red light district, it's run-down, it's shady, but it's not a huge area. Maybe 2-3 blocks at most. You can walk around in 5-7 minutes if you walk at a nice pace and don't stop anywhere. Use caution at night, and look like you know where you are going. I mention my advice in previous posts, and the first few pages are filled with guidance / advice.
2. Performance is always YMMV. If a girl cares about the money, which they all do, she'll do what you agree with her to do (unless she wants to scam you). If you agree to BBBJ if she offers that, then chances are you'll pay for it and you'll get it. Some will do at no cost, but YMMV. Some will charge for kissing. Others will not. Talk about it before hand, and you'll hopefully get what you pay for. If you're smelly and have bad hygiene, don't expect much. Especially BBBJ even if you offer to pay for it.
3. The price is going to vary. Santa Fe for one hour is going to be around 100 k with other fees such as for the short time hotel etc. It can add up to 120 - 150 k. It's not much money, but depends on how much you want to pay. Try out a 20 min session and then see if you want more time in the future. Something like that. You can go to a place like Chicas Milenio / Chicas 2000 which has a pretty good selection of chicas and the price for an hour will be about 60 k - 80 k. YMMV with upselling. But that should get you a CBJ and CFS at least, and the rest you'll have to figure out.
Best of luck. And seriously, RTFF.
LatinaLover#1
09-30-15, 15:46
Sad to lose a fellow New Yorker. Guess my experience pales on what poor John went through. Just finished reading all the posts on the Medellin thread. It could happen in Bogota as well. Can actually happen anywhere, but Colombia and taxis and motorbikes and street thugs just don't seem to be a good mix.I think it's important to understand the type of robberies you may encounter in Colombia. The first is a wrong place, wrong time type. It can happen anywhere any time. It's a robbery of opportunity. You get spotted by a thief or gang working in unison. You look like you may have money or a watch or I phone, whatever but you become the target. They will observe you, give signals to each other and pounce in an instant. I've seen it happen on crowed streets near the metros. Don't get a false sense of security because there are a lot of people around, it can happen because they know no one will get involved. The other type is you become known by the wrong people because you have money or valuables. In this case it could have been the security in the hotel who tipped of the gang or a girl he had to his hotel room, who knows for sure but to avoid this type of assault the only thing he could have done was to order the taxi by telephone and sent to the hotel to pick you up. . Any time you catch a cab in the street this can happen. And never resist! I know, I know, we're all stand up guys who have balls and nobody's going to take my shit. Bla bla bla. BUT, they have guns and knives and your life means nothing to them. Never carry more cash around then you need and always give it up without even a word so as to live another day.
Mr Enternational
09-30-15, 17:10
What do you mean for YMMV?Your Mileage May Vary. The experience may not be the same from girl to girl, monger to monger, day to day.
On youtube is possible to see some videos of Santa Fe. Some (not really beautiful) women who wait within something which seems the entrance of a "garage" or something like that.
Are these Street Hookers or they simply stay "around" the entrance of a brothel?
Concerning Chapinero I did not seen that on Youtube. Are there here Street hookers?They are street hookers, in front of motels. You might see one, you might see a few in front of each motel. You can find a gem or two on a good night, and you need to be patient and grab a good looking one as they seem to get taken pretty quickly on busy days / nights.
Street hookers are not difficult to find. I've seen some in Zona Rosa just a block or two from nice hotels / restaurants by street corners or just walking, later in the night. It's not that difficult to spot in my experience. Also, don't rely on those videos on YouTube. I saw a few (and likely the same) before I went to Santa Fe for the first time and was not impressed in the videos, I was actually concerned it was going to end up in disappointment. The good looking ones are in the clubs / bars, and there are plenty of them.
Mr. E answered the first question.
The maps are mostly updated, but prices could be off and prices can change as well. A girl can quote you what she likes. If it's 50 k for 1 hour, that's great. If it's 60 k, that's great too. If it's 100 k or 150 k, you know she's asking for more than the market rates (for those places). Remember that 100 k is $32 USD. For a one hour session with a good looking girl, that's a bargain in most regions. Use the prices on the map as a guide, you decide using your knowledge and gut if you feel you're being quoted market rates or being given higher pricing. You can negotiate and depending on your skills, she might take your offer. The more spanish you speak, and the less mentioning of "it's my first time in Colombia" you should get market rates most of the time or negotiating power in the very least. And YMMV.
What do you mean for YMMV?
I supposed that prices were not so high. On Google maps the average price is 50 K for 1 hour. Are these maps totally not right?
European Man
10-02-15, 20:14
Hi guys,
Sorry if I ask again but I need another info.
My company biiked for me an hotel at Calle 92 / Autopista Norte. Somebody know where I can go walking around here paying 50.000-60.000 pesos per 1 hour.
I don't search Miss Colombia but only a places where to find black girls or girls with big tits and and I would also to avoid places where girls ask me 100 k pesos or more for 1 hour.
World Travel 69
10-03-15, 14:07
There are lists of places and Maps.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists
Hi guys,
Sorry if I ask again but I need another info.
My company biiked for me an hotel at Calle 92 / Autopista Norte. Somebody know where I can go walking around here paying 50.000-60.000 pesos per 1 hour.
I don't search Miss Colombia but only a places where to find black girls or girls with big tits and and I would also to avoid places where girls ask me 100 k pesos or more for 1 hour.
On youtube is possible to see some videos of Santa Fe. Some (not really beautiful) women who wait within something which seems the entrance of a "garage" or something like that.
Are these Street Hookers or they simply stay "around" the entrance of a brothel?
Concerning Chapinero I did not seen that on Youtube. Are there here Street hookers?The driveways / entrances where they wait are hotels -- and some clubs-- There can be really hot girls there too. But they are Street hookers. In Chapinero they have casas all the girls are inside.
Here is a good '"Girl Friendly hotel- Hotel Ibis, It's about 3/4 mile from Santa Fe and easy to get to Chapinero and points north.
http://www.accorhotels.com/es/hotel-7318-ibis-bogota-museo/index.shtml
https://www.google.com/maps/@4.6149806, -74.069188,3 a,75 y,48.7 h,93.8 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 sE97 Rb2 l7 Xb-LOYBc__zJ4 Q!2 e0!7 i13312!8 i6656!6 m1!1 e1.
Hi guys,
Sorry if I ask again but I need another info.
My company biiked for me an hotel at Calle 92 / Autopista Norte. Somebody know where I can go walking around here paying 50.000-60.000 pesos per 1 hour.
I don't search Miss Colombia but only a places where to find black girls or girls with big tits and and I would also to avoid places where girls ask me 100 k pesos or more for 1 hour.Hot Black Street girls in Santa Fe for $15.
I flew into Bogota late Friday and did a quick cruise of my neighborhood where I am staying, which is in Chapinero on CRA 7 near Parque del Hippies though nary a hippie can be found. I selected this area because I am leaving Monday morning for other Colombia destinations and wanted to sample some of the local talent before moving on.
As this is virtually my first foray in Bogota and due to its extensive terrain, I decided to stay within walking distance of the Pussy House on CL 61 as this strip bar has several positive recommendations on ISG. It was about a 7 minute walk to the club and easy to find. When I entered, the guards gave me a cursory sweep but I should note there was no cover charge as mentioned on World Traveler guide. After entering, the waiter attempted to have me sit near the landing where the dancers perform. I wanted a couch to be a bit away from the action but as it turns out, the couches are for bottle service only. In fact, it's not possible to order alcohol by the glass. Instead I requested a beer for 5 COP and sat near the dancers platform. The talent was ok though nothing exceptional until a rather nice looking chica appeared in a fluorescent yellow cheerleader type outfit barely covering her perfect supple ass. Underneath she wore some lace black panties and garters. When she came my way, she offered a bright smile and then took my finger and allowed me to rub her shaved pussy. This act, as it turns out, would be as close as my finger and eye would get for the rest of my time with her.
I caught up with her after she left the stage and bought her a drink for 15 COP, another beer for me, and we were allowed to sit at a table. Shortly thereafter, she offered and performed for me a very enthusiastic lap dance. Her performance was so dynamic, it even captured the envious glances of a few nearby punters. Naturally, I knew an offer to go upstairs would be coming but was less than enthused because I don't really like how these rooms generally look and the overall ambience.
Michelle told me her price was $80 COP for 20 minutes, which I declined. Exasperated, she eventually increased the time to 30 minutes and lowered her price to $70 COP (=USD $23). Well, at that price I figured WTF, I might as well go for it. Since things appeared to go well in the main room and she told me that she would kiss, I figured the rest would take care of itself. Unfortunately, I figured wrong.
After quickly undressing in the dingy room, she applied some antiseptic to my privates for such a long time it felt like I was going to an operating room. After this hygenic and non-stimulating exercise, I attempted a bit of DATY to warm up the opposing party. She resisted it and would not even lay down as I tried to gently push her into the prone condition. Kissing? Not even close. Blow job? Haha! Then I tried to at least put my finger on her pussy and she strong armed me like a halfback would a linebacker in the NFL. She insisted on being on top but I finally threw her off as I was not enjoying her aberrant riding style at all. I finally got on top but the whole experience turned out to be totally forgettable. Additionally, the strategic lighting in the main room hid some serious stretch marks on her belly. Really, it was overall a complete disappointment especially after spending the winter in Bangkok and Bali where almost all the girls kiss enthusiastically and love a bit of DATY.
This was not a good start to my Colombian trip but going to write this one off. I guess they can't all be gems.
Is YMMV, I have had great experiences (meet them there and make arrangements for OOC meetings) also had no so great times. Plusses for me are: Close to where I normally stay, cheap cold beer, more private area and dance area on second floor, I feel safer there than Santa Fe, decent talent, opportunity for a cheap fun night (I usually negotiate with the girl for her company and lap dances on the second floor, we share a bottle and go from there.) One rule of thumb I learned, the hottest ones in the club, know they are the hottest, are masters at getting money away from you and are eager to move to the next target. I stay away from them and usually go for the more quiet not aggressive types, they appreciate the attention and usually treat me great and are in no rush to leave you (a big plus if you like to dance, most colombians love to dance).
Just spent yesterday in Santa Fe, and have to admit, was very bare. Would not advise to go on a Sunday, went around 6 pm, and one of the bars I was drinking in said they would be closing soon so I left!
OK, so having made the maiden voyage to Bogota and gotten a good lay of the land, despite a hiccup, I'm looking for some guidance regarding the stationary working girls, hanging outside of what appears to be parking garages. I've come to the conclusion that there are 4 categories of "chicas" in Santa Fe:
1) Those in the clubs, of which I was in Santa Fe too early and didn't get a chance to view.
2) Streetwalkers, which I have no interest in.
3) Trannys, which I learned my lesson by getting scammed, but we won't go there again.
And lastly, 4) Chicas that would be similar to Amsterdam window girls, only they stay put outside of a parking garage or apartment or some type of fixed structure.
While in Santa Fe on the busy Saturday, I only came across 2 of these chicas I would have any interest in. One was a pretty hot MILF that quoted me 40 K COP. Never got around to discussing price with the other. So my question is 3 part.
1) Are there rooms hidden behind or within these apparent parking garages? Thought I saw quite a few doors. If so are they somewhat respectable?
2) Does the price quoted include the room? And if not, who do you pay. The chica?
3) Is the price quoted FS out on the street, or it that the baseline and do you now find yourself in an upsell situation?
Thinking of venturing back to Bogota, since I'm better informed and for the fact that the airfare is reasonable, the dollar is super strong vs. The COP, and you can't beat the price points. My last day in Bogota, I checked out the MP joints near the Hotel Dann Carlton and while disappointed, my outlay was 100,000 COP which was what? 35 bucks? Amsterdam is 50 euro for the basic in the RLD, which usually turns out to be a major disappointment, SXM is 50 bucks plus room key / fee, Campo in Curacao has gone up on their price structure. I'm still amazed at how little I spent during my visit to Bogota. Will also sample some places in Chapinero, now that I've done recon on them. WT's maps are very helpful. It's just that the city is so big, and places can be quite spread out. Having stayed on Calle 56, I walked down to Santa Fe, but there's no way I could have made it up to the Mezzanine without using a taxi. That's why it's important to hit places that are a) still open, and b) still economically friendly! And I still think the real hotties jump ship from Bogota and head elsewhere where there's more money to be had!
LatinaLover#1
10-09-15, 01:31
OK, so having made the maiden voyage to Bogota and gotten a good lay of the land, despite a hiccup, I'm looking for some guidance regarding the stationary working girls, hanging outside of what appears to be parking garages. I've come to the conclusion that there are 4 categories of "chicas" in Santa Fe:
1) Those in the clubs, of which I was in Santa Fe too early and didn't get a chance to view.
2) Streetwalkers, which I have no interest in.
3) Trannys, which I learned my lesson by getting scammed, but we won't go there again.
And lastly, 4) Chicas that would be similar to Amsterdam window girls, only they stay put outside of a parking garage or apartment or some type of fixed structure.
While in Santa Fe on the busy Saturday, I only came across 2 of these chicas I would have any interest in. One was a pretty hot MILF that quoted me 40 K COP. Never got around to discussing price with the other. So my question is 3 part.
1) Are there rooms hidden behind or within these apparent parking garages? Thought I saw quite a few doors. If so are they somewhat respectable?
2) Does the price quoted include the room? And if not, who do you pay. The chica?
3) Is the price quoted FS out on the street, or it that the baseline and do you now find yourself in an upsell situation?
Thinking of venturing back to Bogota, since I'm better informed and for the fact that the airfare is reasonable, the dollar is super strong vs. The COP, and you can't beat the price points. My last day in Bogota, I checked out the MP joints near the Hotel Dann Carlton and while disappointed, my outlay was 100,000 COP which was what? 35 bucks? Amsterdam is 50 euro for the basic in the RLD, which usually turns out to be a major disappointment, SXM is 50 bucks plus room key / fee, Campo in Curacao has gone up on their price structure. I'm still amazed at how little I spent during my visit to Bogota. Will also sample some places in Chapinero, now that I've done recon on them. WT's maps are very helpful. It's just that the city is so big, and places can be quite spread out. Having stayed on Calle 56, I walked down to Santa Fe, but there's no way I could have made it up to the Mezzanine without using a taxi. That's why it's important to hit places that are a) still open, and b) still economically friendly! And I still think the real hotties jump ship from Bogota and head elsewhere where there's more money to be had!Try Atunes, late afternoon, lot's of girls 30/40,000 cop. Ran across a very beautiful and hot girl there for 40,000 cop, a little higher then some others were asking but she was fine. In fact I was surprised to find someone so polished there. Although Santa Fe usually disappoints, you never know when the diamond in the rough will pop up.
1, 2, and 3. Those are "motels". There are rooms and you pay the chica generally for the room and her services, and if not sure just ask her if that includes the cost of the room or not. I've come across ones that will quote the services and then the room when you go up to get a key. Services include the usual CBJ (or BBBJ) and FS. Anything else you'll have to make clear with her beforehand. Standard stuff, don't expect everything to be included and as always YMMV with extras. She might include it, she might not but that's why you settle at the start.
There are a few good looking street girls (the ones in front of the motels / garages). But you need to get inside the clubs where you'll see what you're looking for. Trust me I've been to SXM plenty of times man, and while you'll have beautiful chicas at Carolinas and Hypnotic, you'll find much more in one of the clubs in Bogota and a lot more variety imo. Go to Atunes in the daytime, and on a good day there will be 20-25 chicas easily. Some are all plastic, some are natural, and some have very cute faces and not the curves of the others. At night if you choose to stay late go to El Castillo and spend an hour there (and get with a chica). When it comes to looks, it will make you forget about SXM for that one hour. YMMV on overall service, and it's higher priced than a place like Atunes but it's still worth it overall. I like SXM a lot and plan to be there in the coming weeks, but overall costs and just things to do in general Bogota has A LOT and gives better value. Many good looking chicas go from Colombia to SXM. But you're in the motherland, and Bogota is massive. I was surprised when first walking around Santa Fe and remembering some of the videos I saw on youtube, from the outside it's accurate. But you don't get an idea of the quality of girls until you get inside one of the clubs.
OK, so having made the maiden voyage to Bogota and gotten a good lay of the land, despite a hiccup, I'm looking for some guidance regarding the stationary working girls, hanging outside of what appears to be parking garages. I've come to the conclusion that there are 4 categories of "chicas" in Santa Fe:
1) Those in the clubs, of which I was in Santa Fe too early and didn't get a chance to view.
2) Streetwalkers, which I have no interest in.
3) Trannys, which I learned my lesson by getting scammed, but we won't go there again.
And lastly, 4) Chicas that would be similar to Amsterdam window girls, only they stay put outside of a parking garage or apartment or some type of fixed structure.
While in Santa Fe on the busy Saturday, I only came across 2 of these chicas I would have any interest in. One was a pretty hot MILF that quoted me 40 K COP. Never got around to discussing price with the other. So my question is 3 part.
1) Are there rooms hidden behind or within these apparent parking garages? Thought I saw quite a few doors. If so are they somewhat respectable?
2) Does the price quoted include the room? And if not, who do you pay. The chica?
3) Is the price quoted FS out on the street, or it that the baseline and do you now find yourself in an upsell situation?
Thinking of venturing back to Bogota, since I'm better informed and for the fact that the airfare is reasonable, the dollar is super strong vs. The COP, and you can't beat the price points. My last day in Bogota, I checked out the MP joints near the Hotel Dann Carlton and while disappointed, my outlay was 100,000 COP which was what? 35 bucks? Amsterdam is 50 euro for the basic in the RLD, which usually turns out to be a major disappointment, SXM is 50 bucks plus room key / fee, Campo in Curacao has gone up on their price structure. I'm still amazed at how little I spent during my visit to Bogota. Will also sample some places in Chapinero, now that I've done recon on them. WT's maps are very helpful. It's just that the city is so big, and places can be quite spread out. Having stayed on Calle 56, I walked down to Santa Fe, but there's no way I could have made it up to the Mezzanine without using a taxi. That's why it's important to hit places that are a) still open, and b) still economically friendly! And I still think the real hotties jump ship from Bogota and head elsewhere where there's more money to be had!
Hot Black Street girls in Santa Fe for $15.Looking for guide to Bogota's seedier spots. 1st time trip coming up.
I cannot pm Woodman09 as he appears to have not cleared his inbox in a while. Anyone else out there who lives in Bogota and has time to monger?
Having been in Colombia so long I thought finding a semi pro in Bogotá would be a snap but I'm still lost as to where to find them. Thought I had a solid one but when I offered 250 Mil for a morning romp today she said it's not enough.
That said where are the pickup spots? Been doing the Santa Fe thing but that's just pump and dump. Rather have an educated semi pro for 3/4 hours in my hotel room to relax. Order in food in between rounds, pool / jacuzzi etc.
Thoughts gents? Tinder is a bust, tried the malls but didn't go far. Colombian cupid didn't get many hits.
ScottInBogota
10-11-15, 16:04
Having been in Colombia so long I thought finding a semi pro in Bogot would be a snap but I'm still lost as to where to find them. Thought I had a solid one but when I offered 250 Mil for a morning romp today she said it's not enough.
That said where are the pickup spots? Been doing the Santa Fe thing but that's just pump and dump. Rather have an educated semi pro for 3/4 hours in my hotel room to relax. Order in food in between rounds, pool / jacuzzi etc.
Thoughts gents? Tinder is a bust, tried the malls but didn't go far. Colombian cupid didn't get many hits.Try guiacerza.
Having been in Colombia so long I thought finding a semi pro in Bogot would be a snap but I'm still lost as to where to find them. Thought I had a solid one but when I offered 250 Mil for a morning romp today she said it's not enough.
That said where are the pickup spots? Been doing the Santa Fe thing but that's just pump and dump. Rather have an educated semi pro for 3/4 hours in my hotel room to relax. Order in food in between rounds, pool / jacuzzi etc.
Thoughts gents? Tinder is a bust, tried the malls but didn't go far. Colombian cupid didn't get many hits.Most girls at Spas, the Mezzanines and a number or the bars, at least Pussy House, are semi pros (don't work at hoking full time, go to school, have second "regular" jobs, go there only a couple of days a week for extra cash. Etc) just talk to them, I had girls from all those three venues meet me for multiple hour visits, and overnights, it is all about talking to them, having them feel comfortable with you, negotiating and coordinating. 200 K can go a long way, had a couple of girls overnight for 300 k, this after drinks, 200 k can get you minimum 2-3 hour date. Now, if you want to get that Aguila Model to do it, good luck. Most girls are very quick to give you their phone number, often you do not even have to ask, why do you think that is?
World Travel 69
10-11-15, 23:11
Try these:
GFE / Non Pro.
Bars / Discos Lots of other places in the Area.
Thanks to UrbanWildlife for this Bars and Discos List. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=578570&postcount=50.
La Candelaria.
1. Quiebra-Canto, Salsa, Mixed, Age Group: 20-30's. Carrera 5 #17-76. Tel: 243 1630,341 2319. Hours: _ http://www.quiebracanto.com.
2. El Viejo Aleman, Carrera 5 and Calle 13-14. Age Group: 20-40's. Hours:
Zona Rosa. Lots of Bars, Restaurants and Dancing.
1. Gotica, (Dance), Carrera 14 # 82-40. Tel: 218-0712,218-0727 or 616 9320. Hours: _.
2. Latinoes, (Salsa), Carrera 11 #79-75. Tel: 211 8738. Hours: _.
3. La Corraleja, Calle 84 # 13-86 and 14 Carrera. Tel: 218-0089,218 1938. Hours: _ http://www.lacorraleja.com.
4. Salsa Camaca, Calle 82 # 14-38. Hours: Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
5. Rock Garden Pub, Carrera 13 # 81-37. Hours: _ www.rockgardenpub.com.
6. Tropical Cocktails, see. See. Altantis Plaza, Calle 81, L 215/16. Tel: 530 7428/26. Hours: _ http://www.tropicalcocktails.com.co.
7. Bogota Beer Company, Carrera 12 # 83-12 and Calle 84. Hours: _.
8. Bogota Beer Company, Carrera 13 and Calle 85. Hours: _.
9. The Irish Pub, Carerra 12 A # 83-50. Hours: _.
10. Beer Station, Calle 83 # 12 A 03. Hours: _.
11. Palos de Mogeur, Bar / Brewery / Restaurant, Calle 84 #12-09. Hours: _.
12. Penthouse180 (Degree), Club and Lounge, Calle 84 # 12-17. Hours: _.
Parque de la 93 - Lots of other places in the Area.
1. Red Lion, Calle 93 and Carrera 13. Tel: _ Hours: _.
2. Salto del Angel, Restaurant / Disco, Calle 93 # 93 A-45 and Calle 93 B. Tel: _ Hours: Disco after 11 pm.
3. Bogota Beer Company, Carrera 11 a # 93-94, L-2. Tel: 621 9914. Hours: _ http://www.bogotabeercompany.com/.
4. Tropical Cocktails, Calle 93 A #13 A-31. Tel: 530 7428/26. Hours: _ http://www.tropicalcocktails.com.co.
5. Tabu, Carerra 11 A # 93 b-12, Tel: 236 1019. Hours: _.
6. Kukaramakara Club Bogotá, Carrera 15 # 93-57. Tel: _ Hours: _ http://www.kukaramakara.com/menuanimadobogota.html.
7. Aroma why Tanga, Carrera 15 # 95-52. Tel: 636 0794. Hours: Monday to Friday, 6:00 pm to 3:00 am.
Santa Barbara.
1. Romanos Bar, Calle 107 and Av. Carrera 15. Tel: _ Hours: _.
SPORT BARS.
1. Dream Arena, Carrera 6 A #119 be 72, Usaquen. Tel: _ Hours: _.
DATING.
http://www.romancelatina.com/en/faq.php
Santa Rosa Malls.
1. see. See. Andinos, Carrera 12 at Calle 82.
2. see. See. Atlantis Plaza, Carrera 15 at Calle 81.
Having been in Colombia so long I thought finding a semi pro in Bogot would be a snap but I'm still lost as to where to find them. Thought I had a solid one but when I offered 250 Mil for a morning romp today she said it's not enough.
That said where are the pickup spots? Been doing the Santa Fe thing but that's just pump and dump. Rather have an educated semi pro for 3/4 hours in my hotel room to relax. Order in food in between rounds, pool / jacuzzi etc.
Thoughts gents? Tinder is a bust, tried the malls but didn't go far. Colombian cupid didn't get many hits.
Good luck picking up a non-pro from a regular bar, you better be young, very handsome and have some serious picking girls up skills. Colombian women, tough friendly and approchable, go out in groups with friends, getting them away from those groups not a easy task, if you have good dancing skills, you may have a better chance, but not much. Not an impossible task, but again, good luck. I would not waste my time, but if you are up for the challenge. Go for it! Now, if you are interested in a non pro, my suggestion is look for and set up a date with via on line "friends" site (like amigos). , I had good luck through there in Mexico, Venezuela, Honduras and Colombia. Heads up, not easy but, may be much easier than picking up a girl at a regular bar.
Tinder is good for non-pros, I have had a bit of success on there but it's not as easy as Tinder in the USA There are reasons for this, but if you stay patient and have a little bit of luck it can work in your favor. CC is the same.
Go to the spa's / MP's and talk to the chicas. It's easy. If you really have some game, go to a Bogota Beer Company later in the evening and you might just get lucky. Getting laid in Colombia can be easy in places like Santa Fe, but it takes a little bit of patience and effort when it comes to semi-pros and especially with non-pros. 300 k for TLN can be had, so 200 k for a few hours is very possible. I'm surprised you got turned down on 250 mil, but YMMV.
Having been in Colombia so long I thought finding a semi pro in Bogot would be a snap but I'm still lost as to where to find them. Thought I had a solid one but when I offered 250 Mil for a morning romp today she said it's not enough.
That said where are the pickup spots? Been doing the Santa Fe thing but that's just pump and dump. Rather have an educated semi pro for 3/4 hours in my hotel room to relax. Order in food in between rounds, pool / jacuzzi etc.
Thoughts gents? Tinder is a bust, tried the malls but didn't go far. Colombian cupid didn't get many hits.
Here is the short of it. I have 48 Hours and its my first time. I want to find the hottest youngest girls in Bogota and money is absolutely not an issue. I want to go tru about 3-4 chicas a day and be in a safe area. Where should I stay and what should I do is the short version of this question? I land in Bogota in 3 days.
The details:
I'm 6'2 280 LB Full Spanish Guy Born and Raised in NYC. (Big Guy / Street Smart / Haven't gotten robbed yet Overseas /+Amen).
I'm in a very well known Motorcycle Club and if I bring my leather jacket (My Cut) (Nobody Fucks With Me).
I live in Hawaii and just happen to look like a huge Hawaiian guy (Girls will never know I'm Spanish).
(Wasn't going to let the girls know I speak perfect Spanish so I can hear the shit they are talking to their friends).
I'm financially well off and money is not an issue. (I usually wear nice clothes, big watches, and etc.).
I go to the Dominican Republic and Philippines several times a year for mongering.
(I know the deal and the girls mind sets).
I will only have 48 hours from the time I land to the time I depart Bogota. (First time to Colombia).
Usual habit overseas either Dominican Republic or Philippines:
5 Star Hotel or 4-5 Bedroom Villas.
Personal Driver for the week or I drive a luxury rental.
Have fun, ball out, and run tru about 2-3 chicas a day.
Usually make friends with these girls and the bar owners and keep in contact when back in the USA.
I like them 18 y-21 y MAX 24-26. No kids! No stretch marks!
I'm young, good looking, and the girls usually come back with me Happy as fuck because we have fun.
What I was planning (Before doing research):
I was going to stay in a hotel Dead Center Sante Fe because I usually like to be walking distance from the girls.
Found what I thought was a decent new hotel around the clubs in Sante Fe walking distance.
Was going to rent a full size car at the airport so I wouldn't have to worry about taking cabs or getting robbed.
Now from what I have researched in just the past 6 hours since I booked my tickets:
I'm not staying in Sante Fe. Or anywhere near that *****.
I'm not going to bring anything nice. Jeans and sweater.
I'm not going to bring tons of money nor carry tons of it on me.
I think I still want a rental depending on what you "masters" advice me.
This is going to be way different than anything else I have ever seen.
Hence, I have read many forums and learned from you masters over the years, but Tonight. I ask for some advice.
Where should I stay that's Chica friendly? (As long as it has a bed, TV, and AC I'm fine).
Where should I go for the girls in Bogota that will come back to my hotel and play nice! (BBBJ and everything).
Should I rent a car since I have no problem driving in third world countries?
I don't need a car if you guys can recommend a hotel that's in a good area and I can walk to bars / strips clubs / etc.
Any advice I should be aware of. And I don't plan to sleep much. Maybe a nap here and there but that's it.
Lastly, for those who respond and help me in this time of uncertainty. I thank you with my life. (Literally).
Goodnight gentleman,
Hawaii84
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As was I. She's a 6 ft, slim 19 yr old who works at a spa. Her logic was I paid 160/ HR at the spa so it should be 3 x that. My response was when I win the Baloto I'll call.
I'm back again next Thurs for 48 hrs. Going to hit up a few spots in Chapinero / Santa Fe and see how it goes. But overly surprised as I find it's much easier in Medellin / La Costa! 10 yrs. In Colombia but for the life of me can't figure out Bogota. My goal really is to find something on the side I can hang out with regularly. Last two were paisas. Volleyball body type. Trained them to be amazing in bed but alas they all wanted love and that's something I can't be bothered with.
Thanks for giving me that second wind. Won't write off Bogota just yet.
Tinder is good for non-pros, I have had a bit of success on there but it's not as easy as Tinder in the USA There are reasons for this, but if you stay patient and have a little bit of luck it can work in your favor. CC is the same.
Go to the spa's / MP's and talk to the chicas. It's easy. If you really have some game, go to a Bogota Beer Company later in the evening and you might just get lucky. Getting laid in Colombia can be easy in places like Santa Fe, but it takes a little bit of patience and effort when it comes to semi-pros and especially with non-pros. 300 k for TLN can be had, so 200 k for a few hours is very possible. I'm surprised you got turned down on 250 mil, but YMMV.
Hawaii84 keep in mind Bogota is more than 8,600 ft above sea level, so may want to take it easy for a bit. Believe me it affects your stamina.
I recommend against renting a car, Bogota traffic is crazy, is not easy to get around and you may have challenges finding parking, save yourself the headache.
Young and beautiful to take back to the hotel? May be disappointed at the clubs, Skip the clubs, order to go, www.solitasparati.com, register in their web site, you have pics, videos and menus for the girls.
Girl friendly hotel to bring 3-4 girls? That is a though one, If money is not an issue, I would find a nice hotel to sleep and rest and rent a room in of the several motels in Caracas near 60 street to play, there you can rent Sex theme rooms and or with jaccuzzi, sounds like for what you are looking for may be the way to go, those motels (Amueblados) are the "norm" for Bogotanos to meet and play (met a few girls there from the clubs, independents and from solitasparati) and are walking distance (couple of blocks away) from some strip Bars.
Hope that helps some, good luck, be careful, have fun and do report back.
P.S. Consider hiring a driver, it is safer, they will take care of you and inexpensive, there are a number of hired driver agencies in Bogota elitecarservicebogota.com is one I'm familiar with.
Going to be in Bogota for a few days early November then Cartagena til Mid November. Wondering if any other guys would like to meet up and prowl around. After watching the Youtube video on the devils breath (sclopomine) I think it may be prudent to go out in groups versus solo. If interested PM me & we can discuss details.
Thanks,
JK214
LatinaLover#1
10-14-15, 21:05
With only 2 days to spend you will need to hit the ground running. Driving in Bogota for a first time visit is not recommended, driving around an Island like the DR is night and day different than a city of 8 plus million. If you like the taxi guy you grab at the airport make a deal with him or have your hotel call a cab for you and make a deal with him to take you where you want to go and have him wait or return at a specific time, very safe and not expensive. Private penthouse / apartments may be unavailable because most require 3 day stay but when I find a nice penthouse I want to stay for a day or two, I would pay for 3 days and leave when I need to, sometimes it comes in handy for late check out depending on my flight. Check Homeaway.com for some really nice places to stay with no worries about chica friendly. I always tip the security guard in reception 10 or 20,000 cop and you will have a friend for life. Just don't flaunt a lot of money or jewelry because most taxi traps happen because of a tip, from the hotel clerks or the girls you see, just be alert for anything. Forget SF, very few allstars there, and the web site prepagos, most use fake pics and its a crap shoot on the quality of service. I'm sure you have experienced that in the DR. IF. Money is no object, go to Laylos, club 49 or Flirt hotel, some very hot girls who like to overcharge gringos. With your Spanish skills I'm sure you can land a 9 or 10 there and be very clear on what you want. These girls will want 500,000 cop or more but you should be able to chop them and if the sex is great and you want to repeat with them you'll get a better deal. I just returned from 8 days in Bogota and I have 3 or 4 non pros in the stable right now that give sex every bit as good as a Brasilera. I'd give you some numbers but I'm still in love, need another week or two to detox. LOL buena suerte!
AddictedToWomen
10-14-15, 22:40
Most useful thing ever written here. Especially #1.
Now from what I have researched in just the past 6 hours since I booked my tickets:
I'm not staying in Sante Fe. Or anywhere near that *****.
I'm not going to bring anything nice. Jeans and sweater.
I'm not going to bring tons of money nor carry tons of it on me.
Hot Black Street girls in Santa Fe for $15.Woodman,
Drop me a line. I will be in Bogota Thursday, Oct 22. We'll get some drinks.
I have a large list of FB girls in Medellin and have met quite a few, but don't have any yet for BOG. If anyone wants to exchange some info for part-timers, GFE college girls etc. In Bogota, PM me. Thanks.
Mr Enternational
10-18-15, 21:43
I have been pretty lazy, but finally will do this report. At the end of August, me, my dad, and my youngest brother arrived in Bogota and went to the ATMs outside of Customs. My Charles Schwab card would not work in the ATMs. Luckily I have more than one bank and one of my other cards worked. It was my dad and brother's first time in Colombia and I had forgotten to tell them to just use their ATM cards so they had brought money to exchange. The exchange rate at the booth was way below the interbank so I got money out of my bank for my dad and my brother used his ATM card as well. The taxi touts inside were asking 40k to go downtown. I went upstairs and outside to find someone dropping off a passenger and negotiated a 20k flat rate. We went downtown to my usual hotel which was 40k for each room.
After getting settled in we must have headed out about midnight to walk down to Santa Fe. I gave them a quick tour then we went inside of La Piscina. Now I usually stay away from this place and stick to the chicks in front of the casas, but since the exchange rate is so great I figured we might as well try it out. We sat down and ordered 3 beers for 6k each since that was the cheapest thing on the menu. There were no other patrons in the place. I immediately secured my girl. I asked her how much she wanted and she said 150k. I started laughing. It took nothing for her to get down to 100k. My brother grabbed a girl and bought her a drink. Later on when the bill was added up he found out said drink was 15k. I asked him how much his girl wanted and he said 80. I had to jump in. It took me negotiating with my girl to get 100k, but right off his girl was taking 80k? Well come to find out, his girl wanted US$80! I started laughing. I said if I am giving my girl 100k pesos there is no way you are getting US$80. It didn't take much to get her to accept 100k.
I told my dad that he had better hurry and choose one because I was on the way to the room with mine. He finally got one and I made sure she was okay with the same 100k that the other girls were getting. It was cool so off we went. We had to stop by the room cashier and pay 15k for the room along with the chica fee. She didn't have any change we we all had to claim our change later. The cashier asked for a tip. I told her when she comes to the room to fuck like the rest of the girls then she will get a tip. She said that would not be a problem. I told her next time then. We went up in the elevators to the rooms.
My girl was just what the doctor ordered. She made me think she was my girlfriend. We said that we loved each other when we were fucking. When time was up I took a couple of pictures and was on my way. As a tip, I let her keep the 10k change that was due back to me from the cashier. I met back up with my dad and brother downstairs and they said that their girls were on point too. We left out and the next spot was Troya. The time was 1:07am. There were some nice girls in there as well and it was full of patrons. I ended up asking one girl how much and she said 36k including the room. What the fuck? I told my dad and my brother that we had gotten ripped off at La Piscina and could have gotten 3 girls AND a beer for that price here. And besides that, all these years I have been going with street chicas when I could have been in Troya for about the same price. Troya is my kind of place and it is definitely where I will put out roots from now on.
We hit a few more places just to check them out. El Castillo was 160k. They would not let me bring my gym sack in. They made me rent a locker for 2k to keep it in. Waste of money since we just walked in and looked and asked a girl the price and left. The rest of the places were holes in the wall. My brother was hungry and wanted to get food so we were going to take a taxi into downtown to find something. The taxi guy told me that we were probably already at one of the best places. Ricuras El Gato at Calle 24 16-23. And there were policemen inside so you know it was probably one of the best choices. We each got the bbq wings and a bottle of water. My brother had an empanada too. The total was 40k600. After we ate we walked back to the hotel. On the way, I took a few pictures using my Samsung Galaxy S5. I ended up walking back to Santa Fe alone at maybe 3am and hitting one of the chicks in front of the casas. The next morning we were off to the airport to go to Medellin. The taxi to the airport was 18k.
I was RTFF and found this post from 2013 interesting.
However, I cannot find the name of the website referenced in this post. I did search on "Una Tablita" but did not see anything useful.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
BKKguru.
It seems the majority of the members / posters here prefer taking a stroll down to Santa Fe. However, I did some researching in the interwebs and came across this website (below). It is a blogsite dedicated to reviewing girls, written by the local Bogtanos written in Spanish. (Google translate is your friend). The majority of the reviews attach links and "una tablita" rating the girls based on their face, body, ass, tits, attitude, services, if the photos are real, etc.
Probably of more utility for those who prefer an outcall or are weary about Santa Fe at night, as most of the reviews come from agencies. Seems like the local favorite is an agency called solitasparati. There are links to the website and if you follow them on twitter they update you with discounts for the girls.
I referenced this site last weekend for domicillios. Some might prefer the outcall having a home court advantage so to speak. Called, talked to the madame who arranges the appointments, who quoted me on an hour delivery. 30min later I had a nice little present at my door. $130COP for the hour included DATY, CBJ, CFS. Good experience for me with this young universitaria. We made arrangements to exchange English lessons for her services in the future, no more paying for me.
Happy hunting
Althought I have never had any problem with any taxi drivers any where in Colombia, but I am being told that when in Bogota use UBER. That is safest as the company has all drivers info and they can easily catch him.
Regards,
John.
P.S. Consider hiring a driver, it is safer, they will take care of you and inexpensive, there are a number of hired driver agencies in Bogota elitecarservicebogota.com is one I'm familiar with.
Mr Enternational
10-18-15, 23:08
I was RTFF and found this post from 2013 interesting.
However, I cannot find the name of the website referenced in this post. I did search on "Una Tablita" but did not see anything useful.
Any help would be appreciated.I think you misread the post. The website he referenced is http://solitasparati.com/9/. Maybe by tablita he meant that there was a chart or something.
My girl was just what the doctor ordered. She made me think she was my girlfriend. We said that we loved each other when we were fucking.Hahaha that's some funny shit! I love it when they do that, even if they don't mean it. It's all a part of the fantasy. Or, maybe they do mean it in the moment. One of my favorites in Brazil always gets all emotional when I'm doing "that up and down" on her and starts telling me how much she missed my dick and that she loves my dick and wants my "leite" inside of her LOL!
Parkinsons
10-19-15, 17:12
I have been pretty lazy, but finally will do this report. At the end of August, me, my dad, and my youngest brother arrived in Bogota.Nice report, thanks for sharing. You gave me a good plan of attack when I go in Jan 2016.
Which hotel did you stay at? I'd like to have a night or two within walking distance of Santa Fe.
I think you misread the post. The website he referenced is http://solitasparati.com/9/. Maybe by tablita he meant that there was a chart or something.There is a Bogota review site that uses the tablita, and they do review amongs others girls from solitas para ti, heads up, the site has been known for some fake reviews used for pimping some of the girls. Forosprepagocolombia dot com.
LatinaLover#1
10-20-15, 16:25
Hahaha that's some funny shit! I love it when they do that, even if they don't mean it. It's all a part of the fantasy. Or, maybe they do mean it in the moment. One of my favorites in Brazil always gets all emotional when I'm doing "that up and down" on her and starts telling me how much she missed my dick and that she loves my dick and wants my "leite" inside of her LOL!But who cares, It makes for a great time. My new novia is a nurse. She was actually crying real tears when I was leaving last month. Since I have been at this hobby for many years I only half believed it. Turns out she was crying because the money was leaving not me hahah. I had my buddy contact her a few days after I left and ask her if she was interested in meeting and she replied Yes! So while its fun and sexy and a nice ego boost, It's all an act and remember when you fall in love in a foreign country, your falling in love by yourself.
Mr Enternational
10-20-15, 16:41
Hahaha that's some funny shit! I love it when they do that, even if they don't mean it. It's all a part of the fantasy. Or, maybe they do mean it in the moment.I tell them they will have to tell me that they love me. It is a part of their employment contract. A lot of guys opt for BBBJ, or skeet on tits, or whatever. I want the Te quiero mi amor special.
Hi guys,
I regularly travel to Colombia on business especially Bogota. It has been one of the hardest towns for me in getting action. I do however have a "GF" in Bogota but as many of you may agree, its not about just one. I am going to be in town next week and I wanted to learn from you guys, any easier way to get some action without having to actually pay? I know it may seem a bit picky on my part but hey, lets face it, it better to go fishing than just going to the store and buying fish.
I am very familiar with "zona T" and the 93 park area. A bit classier than going to the center of town but one thing I have learned from being in Bogota, girls are not easy! If we compare Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali where they are much more open minded, Bogota is about snotty or I am to good for you type of girls.
If you guys can give me some pointers or brotherly advice as to where in Bogota I can sit meet and pick up chicks, by all means let me know. I will be giving a full report on my business trip next week and letting you guys know how it went.
Free advice from my part: if you use Uber in Bogota from anywhere in the city to the airport, standard rate is 25 K (roughly 9 bucks)! That is cheap. Considering the exchange rate right now, Colombia is the place to be.
Let me know guys!
Thanks
I tell them they will have to tell me that they love me. It is a part of their employment contract. A lot of guys opt for BBBJ, or skeet on tits, or whatever. I want the Te quiero mi amor special.You see. Everybody needs to feel loved. Even Mr. E LOL! And so many want to accuse the man of not having a heart hahaha!
CouldItBe123
10-21-15, 21:14
Greetings!
I'll be taking my first trip to Bogota later this month. I'm excited to savor the local flavors! Reading the forums has been very helpful. I will be working for much of the time I'm there and probably can't really do much in the way of exploring. I'll need to order room service. I'm looking at a few different options for services to go through. Solitasparati seems to be a great option. Can anyone confirm this or offer better solutions for ordering in to my hotel? I'm hoping to have 3 or 4 visits with the 18 - 23 yo spinner types (Maria Pia looks perfect, from solitasparati).
Thanks in advance!
This is Colombia, many guys get the impression that getting laid is incredibly easy and it is if you pay for it. Not paying for it is a different story, but it's not impossible. First, you need to know some spanish. Not just buen DIA, como estas? And donde esta baņo? But be able to converse in spanish, ask questions, answer them, say something amusing etc. Many non-pros will be charmed by men who can attempt to speak spanish and know a bit. You could go to a Bogota Beer Company or a restaurant / bar in Zona Rosa and come across plenty of single women. Many who are in groups of friends. If you give the impression that you're just looking for sex, unless she's a pro or semi-pro you're not going to get very far. Colombian chicas are also very family oriented, they come first and a majority live with their family. If she sees you want something serious, you have a chance. And it might take a couple dates. If you're not a frequent visitor to Colombia, you should stick to just p4 p. Even frequent visitors such as myself stick to p4 p. I'll arrange dates on ColombianCupid and try Tinder and have had some luck, but not going to lie. It will take a little bit of work. If I didn't know much spanish, I'd be struggling. Being able to ask questions in spanish and take an interest in her life and getting to know her using spanish, that will help A LOT. Also, make an effort to learn to dance. Not the club EDM dancing that goes on in the USA / Europe.
Hi guys,
I regularly travel to Colombia on business especially Bogota. It has been one of the hardest towns for me in getting action. I do however have a "GF" in Bogota but as many of you may agree, its not about just one. I am going to be in town next week and I wanted to learn from you guys, any easier way to get some action without having to actually pay? I know it may seem a bit picky on my part but hey, lets face it, it better to go fishing than just going to the store and buying fish.
I am very familiar with "zona T" and the 93 park area. A bit classier than going to the center of town but one thing I have learned from being in Bogota, girls are not easy! If we compare Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali where they are much more open minded, Bogota is about snotty or I am to good for you type of girls.
If you guys can give me some pointers or brotherly advice as to where in Bogota I can sit meet and pick up chicks, by all means let me know. I will be giving a full report on my business trip next week and letting you guys know how it went.
Free advice from my part: if you use Uber in Bogota from anywhere in the city to the airport, standard rate is 25 K (roughly 9 bucks)! That is cheap. Considering the exchange rate right now, Colombia is the place to be.
Let me know guys!
Thanks
LatinaLover#1
10-22-15, 14:15
Hi guys,
I regularly travel to Colombia on business especially Bogota. It has been one of the hardest towns for me in getting action. I do however have a "GF" in Bogota but as many of you may agree, its not about just one. I am going to be in town next week and I wanted to learn from you guys, any easier way to get some action without having to actually pay? I know it may seem a bit picky on my part but hey, lets face it, it better to go fishing than just going to the store and buying fish.
I am very familiar with "zona T" and the 93 park area. A bit classier than going to the center of town but one thing I have learned from being in Bogota, girls are not easy! If we compare Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali where they are much more open minded, Bogota is about snotty or I am to good for you type of girls.
If you guys can give me some pointers or brotherly advice as to where in Bogota I can sit meet and pick up chicks, by all means let me know. I will be giving a full report on my business trip next week and letting you guys know how it went.
Free advice from my part: if you use Uber in Bogota from anywhere in the city to the airport, standard rate is 25 K (roughly 9 bucks)! That is cheap. Considering the exchange rate right now, Colombia is the place to be.
Let me know guys!
ThanksGo to Andres Carne DC grab a seat at the bar on the first floor, near the entrance. Now just watch the parade of beautiful women who stream in. Now if you speak Spanish, dress trendy and have some game, you may be able to move out a real non pro beauty. While being American in Medellin has lost it's advantage, in Bogota it's still a bit of a novelty especially to the normal women. So have it and let us know how it worked out for you.
This is Colombia, many guys get the impression that getting laid is incredibly easy and it is if you pay for it. Not paying for it is a different story, but it's not impossible. First, you need to know some spanish. Not just buen DIA, como estas? And donde esta bao? But be able to converse in spanish, ask questions, answer them, say something amusing etc. Many non-pros will be charmed by men who can attempt to speak spanish and know a bit. You could go to a Bogota Beer Company or a restaurant / bar in Zona Rosa and come across plenty of single women. Many who are in groups of friends. If you give the impression that you're just looking for sex, unless she's a pro or semi-pro you're not going to get very far. Colombian chicas are also very family oriented, they come first and a majority live with their family. If she sees you want something serious, you have a chance. And it might take a couple dates. If you're not a frequent visitor to Colombia, you should stick to just P4P. Even frequent visitors such as myself stick to p4 p. I'll arrange dates on ColombianCupid and try Tinder and have had some luck, but not going to lie. It will take a little bit of work. If I didn't know much spanish, I'd be struggling. Being able to ask questions in spanish and take an interest in her life and getting to know her using spanish, that will help A LOT. Also, make an effort to learn to dance. Not the club EDM dancing that goes on in the USA / Europe.Spanish is not the difficult part because, I am Panamanian, the problem is and as you mentioned, the girls are family oriented etc etc. I have used tinder and it has its advantages, although tinder is viewed more like a chat engine rather than a hookup tool as seen in the USA (its useless in Panama). BBC is a nice place to go if you have a wingman, otherwise you will seem like an absolute idiot sitting and drinking by yourself, especially if you are as shy as me. This might sound ignorant on my end. P4P? And-E-Wayz thanks for the heads up, if any of you happen to be there next week, let me know and we can do some prospecting!
Thanks!
Go to Andres Carne DC grab a seat at the bar on the first floor, near the entrance. Now just watch the parade of beautiful women who stream in. Now if you speak Spanish, dress trendy and have some game, you may be able to move out a real non pro beauty. While being American in Medellin has lost it's advantage, in Bogota it's still a bit of a novelty especially to the normal women. So have it and let us know how it worked out for you.I know exactly what you mean and when you say parade, it is an understatement, I mean even the waitresses there are gorgeous. Medellin is more of a prospector city because I have seen it. As mentioned in my other reply, I do speak Spanish and even though it is an advantage when you have to communicate, I feel women there gear towards real foreigners, like those who really don't speak Spanish. I am from Panama so technically it doesn't apply to me.
I will keep all you in the loop and give you a recap of how my trip went. I have already uploaded a post to CL and that was a week ago, no nibs! Hopefully I'll have some great tales for you guys!
Greetings!
I'll be taking my first trip to Bogota later this month. I'm excited to savor the local flavors! Reading the forums has been very helpful. I will be working for much of the time I'm there and probably can't really do much in the way of exploring. I'll need to order room service. I'm looking at a few different options for services to go through. Solitasparati seems to be a great option. Can anyone confirm this or offer better solutions for ordering in to my hotel? I'm hoping to have 3 or 4 visits with the 18 - 23 yo spinner types (Maria Pia looks perfect, from solitasparati).
Thanks in advance!Twitter has gotten a lot of steam as an advertising medium for independents and agencies. I hooked up with a girl that advertised in twitter and had great time, not a clock watcher, pretty with a great body an attitude, it turned out she is formerly from solitasparati.
How to find them, google "twitter escort Bogota", you'll find a few there, or go look who at catadorprepabta is following.
Hi guys,
I regularly travel to Colombia on business especially Bogota. It has been one of the hardest towns for me in getting action. I do however have a "GF" in Bogota but as many of you may agree, its not about just one. I am going to be in town next week and I wanted to learn from you guys, any easier way to get some action without having to actually pay? I know it may seem a bit picky on my part but hey, lets face it, it better to go fishing than just going to the store and buying fish.
I am very familiar with "zona T" and the 93 park area. A bit classier than going to the center of town but one thing I have learned from being in Bogota, girls are not easy! If we compare Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali where they are much more open minded, Bogota is about snotty or I am to good for you type of girls.
If you guys can give me some pointers or brotherly advice as to where in Bogota I can sit meet and pick up chicks, by all means let me know. I will be giving a full report on my business trip next week and letting you guys know how it went.
Free advice from my part: if you use Uber in Bogota from anywhere in the city to the airport, standard rate is 25 K (roughly 9 bucks)! That is cheap. Considering the exchange rate right now, Colombia is the place to be.
Let me know guys!
ThanksHi, CptBoo.
Some friends recommended me the Theatrķ and which is a gay-lesbian bar but it is such a very good discotheque that you can find many straight women and men and the atmosphere is excellent to flirt and get laid. However, it is very advisable to go into the place with a male or female friend (s).
I hope you are lucky.
Regards
Centro Espanol
10-24-15, 14:14
I was here and going back and wanted to know what hotels are chica-friendly. I stayed in Hotel Cristales but not the best spot and still 35 k if you book in person /40 k online.
Anybody know similiarly cheap hotels in the area that you can bring a girl up in? I didn't actually try at my hotel so not even sure.
Troya is cool, and Paisas on the next block is supposed to be good like Troya also being very cheap.
Girls on the street there are usually 30 k and up, once in awhile can get an OK one for 25 k, but some definitely try for up to 50 k (doesn't mean they'll get it).
But if you go south of 19th, you are in the real shit and girls can be 15-20 k. Not recommended at night, barely safe in the daytime. Some of the girls are hot, but most are not even close the same quality as calle 23/24 in the zone.
I have been pretty lazy, but finally will do this report. At the end of August, me, my dad, and my youngest brother arrived in Bogota and went to the ATMs outside of Customs. My Charles Schwab card would not work in the ATMs. Luckily I have more than one bank and one of my other cards worked. It was my dad and brother's first time in Colombia and I had forgotten to tell them to just use their ATM cards so they had brought money to exchange. The exchange rate at the booth was way below the interbank so I got money out of my bank for my dad and my brother used his ATM card as well. The taxi touts inside were asking 40k to go downtown. I went upstairs and outside to find someone dropping off a passenger and negotiated a 20k flat rate. We went downtown to my usual hotel which was 40k for each room.
After getting settled in we must have headed out about midnight to walk down to Santa Fe. I gave them a quick tour then we went inside of La Piscina. Now I usually stay away from this place and stick to the chicks in front of the casas, but since the exchange rate is so great I figured we might as well try it out. We sat down and ordered 3 beers for 6k each since that was the cheapest thing on the menu. There were no other patrons in the place. I immediately secured my girl. I asked her how much she wanted and she said 150k. I started laughing. It took nothing for her to get down to 100k. My brother grabbed a girl and bought her a drink. Later on when the bill was added up he found out said drink was 15k. I asked him how much his girl wanted and he said 80. I had to jump in. It took me negotiating with my girl to get 100k, but right off his girl was taking 80k? Well come to find out, his girl wanted US$80! I started laughing. I said if I am giving my girl 100k pesos there is no way you are getting US$80...
AddictedToWomen
10-24-15, 23:10
Hi, CptBoo.
Some friends recommended me the Theatrķ and which is a gay-lesbian bar but it is such a very good discotheque that you can find many straight women and men and the atmosphere is excellent to flirt and get laid. However, it is very advisable to go into the place with a male or female friend (s).
I hope you are lucky.
RegardsDo you mean Theatron? CL. 58 #10-34?
Centro Espanol
10-25-15, 00:38
Hi guys,
I regularly travel to Colombia on business especially Bogota. It has been one of the hardest towns for me in getting action. I do however have a "GF" in Bogota but as many of you may agree, its not about just one. I am going to be in town next week and I wanted to learn from you guys, any easier way to get some action without having to actually pay? I know it may seem a bit picky on my part but hey, lets face it, it better to go fishing than just going to the store and buying fish.
I am very familiar with "zona T" and the 93 park area. A bit classier than going to the center of town but one thing I have learned from being in Bogota, girls are not easy! If we compare Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali where they are much more open minded, Bogota is about snotty or I am to good for you type of girls.
If you guys can give me some pointers or brotherly advice as to where in Bogota I can sit meet and pick up chicks, by all means let me know. I will be giving a full report on my business trip next week and letting you guys know how it went.
Free advice from my part: if you use Uber in Bogota from anywhere in the city to the airport, standard rate is 25 K (roughly 9 bucks)! That is cheap. Considering the exchange rate right now, Colombia is the place to be.
Let me know guys!
ThanksThere are two sides of this and not sure what you mean. Either way, I don't think it's going to work. 1) You mean trying to meet some girl and make her your girlfriend or whatever. To do that, you are going to have to take her out and talk to her. You are going to have to spend time. Time is worth more than money on a short vacation. By the time you get her, maybe even later that night, the next day, or few days later, you could have shagged at least a few or maybe a dozen girls (also for quite likely less than what taking this "non-pro" out to dinners, etc costs). I barely see the point as I knocked down 6 in one day when I was there. Is the sex with the non-pro going to be all that "special"? Does she look that good? Maybe, maybe not.
2) You are just trying to save money, talk to some girl and hope you can lie your way into her pants by promising all these big things and lifestyle because you are a foreigner but not actually spend a peso. That can happen, but can also fail if you aren't even willing to take her out to eat (so you just wasted a bunch of time for nothing). Some of the girls can fall for this, and do, but I only recommend this is you've got good game and you are really just into the "chase". You might want to take her to a bar for drinks (or meet or pick her up there) and dancing for best results. But a few drinks at a bar / club can be more than some of the girls in the zone. It all depends on how you want to spend your time there and how much time you have, but I made it a mission to hit as much as I could as often as I could. Repeated with a few, and also have a few non-pro legitimate GFs that are definitely not in the biz and are talking about marriage and me getting them pregnant (if that is what you are talking about). But this is an investment in time and money too even if you aren't putting money directly in her pocket. If you are chasing high-quality girls with looks, personality and brains, you might not have much luck if you can't spend a peso on her. Or you better find cheap alternative and nearly free events, festivals, things to do (and food). Ass is so cheap, why bother?
My experience is "free ass" is always more expensive in not just time, but sometimes also money. I still do it though with some civilians and can get them to fall for me, but even I can admit it's a little cruel, but having sex with a "10" civilian is hard to resist if you are good at the chase. Doing shit together, like dinners, seeing sights / attractions, or just taxis and basic BS adds up pretty quick. If you are going to be in town for awhile and take advantage of your free ass, OK. But if only a couple of days, I don't recommend it for the risk of wasting time.
Centro Espanol
10-25-15, 03:17
Do you mean Theatron? CL. 58 #10-34?He is definitely talking about Theatron you mention. It's the biggest club in the country and between all of the "little clubs" it has with different music scenes, it has a 10,000 person capacity. Entrance fee is 30,000 COP, but all you can drink until 2 am. Even though some people call it a gay hot spot, I think most people there are straight. Either way, tons of higher end girls and non pros. I can see why you guys can say going there or Andres DC (one of the most expensive restaurants in the country also) to find top talent is a possibility.
Do you mean Theatron? CL. 58 #10-34?Yes, you are right. It is between Carrera 9 and Carrera 13.
I was here and going back and wanted to know what hotels are chica-friendly. I stayed in Hotel Cristales but not the best spot and still 35 k if you book in person /40 k online.
Anybody know similiarly cheap hotels in the area that you can bring a girl up in? I didn't actually try at my hotel so not even sure.
Troya is cool, and Paisas on the next block is supposed to be good like Troya also being very cheap.
Girls on the street there are usually 30 k and up, once in awhile can get an OK one for 25 k, but some definitely try for up to 50 k (doesn't mean they'll get it).
But if you go south of 19th, you are in the real shit and girls can be 15-20 k. Not recommended at night, barely safe in the daytime. Some of the girls are hot, but most are not even close the same quality as calle 23/24 in the zone.Hi,
I rented a whole apartment on a very safe part of Calle 24 at AirBnB for $29 dlls per night; the place and the building are very nice. Fiebre, Troya, Paisas, etc. Is not far and walking down Calle 24 is the safest way to arrive to the area.
I hope this helps.
Regards
So after reading the advice of some more experienced Bogota mongers I decided to give it another run and see what comes of it.
Thurs started at Pussy House where I picked up a chica there and brought her back for the night. 300 mil plus dinner was the tab. It was good not great, as even though I had her upstairs it seems that a few beers and some dark lighting makes things look a few points better than they really are. We cut ways Fri and I was free to do the Toreador chapinero tour.
Hit all three Casas in the 71 area during the day and evening and pounded one out in each place. 30 k each, no propinas. Beer 3 k.
One was a waste of time, one was a tight 19 yr old from manzinales that I put in doggie and just went to town. And the last was a 25 yr old fitness buff. I actually told her I just wanted a show but it was so hot and her kisses were so amazing that we ended up going at it. Did a repeat later that evening as well.
Earlier that week I was on seeking arrangement and had made a few contacts. Most are pros on there though with some ridiculous pricing 400 Mil / HR to which I counter with my 150 mil 2 hrs + 250 mil a night. However did meet up with a true semi pro. A bit bigger than I like but after some intellectual conversation and a glass of wine we ended up in bed going at it. She was a real naughty one. Deep throat, spitting, slapping hair pulling. In the end got her an uber and 200 k sending her on her way.
Next day hit up the mezzanine and got an 80 k BJ before the flight to Valledupar. Landed here and had enough energy for a couple rounds with a 22 yr old who I think I will wife up.
All in all Bogot can be cheap or expensive. Quality is 4-7.5. Didn't really see any 8's working. Did try and pickup a few university chicas on my way to / from the Casas but no dice.
As for SA. Well there's a couple chics I'm talking to so we'll see. However there was one HOT Barranquilla chica 9+ who I'm chatting with. We haven't gotten to speaking about money but fingers crossed she's only looking for a good fuck and 500.
Would I consider Bogota a prime Colombian destination. No but if I have to layover anyway might as well just go with the flow.
Hi, CptBoo.
Some friends recommended me the Theatr and which is a gay-lesbian bar but it is such a very good discotheque that you can find many straight women and men and the atmosphere is excellent to flirt and get laid. However, it is very advisable to go into the place with a male or female friend (s).
I hope you are lucky.
RegardsThanks man, I will be sure to check it out and see what the scene there is all about. If I go I will let you guys know.
There are two sides of this and not sure what you mean. Either way, I don't think it's going to work. 1) You mean trying to meet some girl and make her your girlfriend or whatever. To do that, you are going to have to take her out and talk to her. You are going to have to spend time. Time is worth more than money on a short vacation. By the time you get her, maybe even later that night, the next day, or few days later, you could have shagged at least a few or maybe a dozen girls (also for quite likely less than what taking this "non-pro" out to dinners, etc costs). I barely see the point as I knocked down 6 in one day when I was there. Is the sex with the non-pro going to be all that "special"? Does she look that good? Maybe, maybe not.
2) You are just trying to save money, talk to some girl and hope you can lie your way into her pants by promising all these big things and lifestyle because you are a foreigner but not actually spend a peso. That can happen, but can also fail if you aren't even willing to take her out to eat (so you just wasted a bunch of time for nothing). Some of the girls can fall for this, and do, but I only recommend this is you've got good game and you are really just into the "chase". You might want to take her to a bar for drinks (or meet or pick her up there) and dancing for best results. But a few drinks at a bar / club can be more than some of the girls in the zone..To be honest the "free ass" strategy has worked for me in other countries. I still feel its better then paying for a prostitute. I have been here for 3 days now and I have already gotten laid once, so it does work. Yes it can be more expensive, but my recommendation is to get your game on before you come here as I did, there are many sites you can go to where you can start talking to some of these girls online and by the time you get here, they are ready for it.
You have to invest time, that's it time, money is only a part of it and considering the exchange rate as it is right now, you can't go wrong, it is relatively cheap here right now.
If any of you guys are here, lets get together and go out! See if we get lucky!
Hi guys,
Just going to give you a quick update on my trip so far to Bogota, as I mentioned in a previous post I have a lady friend here so getting down wasn't a problem. I have also invested time in going into sites before arriving and have met 2 girls, one which I have already gotten down again with as well. So out of 3 days, 2 lays! Not a bad number if I may say so.
My advice to any of you planning on coming, do your research and get your contacts ready before you arrive, I have some of the sites if you want them. I guarantee it is not that hard to get laid without having to pay for a prostitute. Zona T is usually busting as of Tuesdays, so tonight I am making my way there.
Again, if you any of you guys are here, let me know and we can hang out!
I'm around this Sat night if you're up for a drink. Not a major party nightclub guy but speak fluent spanish and can hold my own if you want to invite out a few of your friends.
Hi guys,
Just going to give you a quick update on my trip so far to Bogota, as I mentioned in a previous post I have a lady friend here so getting down wasn't a problem. I have also invested time in going into sites before arriving and have met 2 girls, one which I have already gotten down again with as well. So out of 3 days, 2 lays! Not a bad number if I may say so.
My advice to any of you planning on coming, do your research and get your contacts ready before you arrive, I have some of the sites if you want them. I guarantee it is not that hard to get laid without having to pay for a prostitute. Zona T is usually busting as of Tuesdays, so tonight I am making my way there.
Again, if you any of you guys are here, let me know and we can hang out!
I'm around this Sat night if you're up for a drink. Not a major party nightclub guy but speak fluent spanish and can hold my own if you want to invite out a few of your friends.That would have been awesome dude, I actually head back home Saturday night. I also speak fluent Spanish, would have been great!
To be honest the "free ass" strategy has worked for me in other countries. I still feel its better then paying for a prostitute. I have been here for 3 days now and I have already gotten laid once, so it does work. Yes it can be more expensive....Funny, "free ass", you feel its better, but can be more expensive.... I fail to see logic, is it the thrill of the hunt?, too much work in MY opinion, my stays in Bogota are for business and I have little time to go hunting in what will most likely be a hunt and fail mission that, even if sucessful, "can be more expensive". (Then is not free).
We all have our different thrills and preferences, my guess is that most on this forum, are looking for the easy and cheap lays. Good that you are having success and are having fun. Not putting down your report, thank you for sharing as there may be others that could gain something from it.
Note: I tried the "free ass" approach via friends chat groups, yes I succeded a few times (Mexico, Colombia and Venezuela) it is just too much time investment for what I want, and via P4 P I'm convinced you find better looking assess and better lays.
Finally if you visit frequently, is the friendship you may develop with the P4 P girls that may "pay off". Last night I had a threesome with a girl I regularly see (she usually stays with me 3-4 hours for her rate of 1 plus sometimes dinner), she invited a non-pro friend that needed a litle something. Everything went, girl on girl, anal, CIM, video, Etc. For 2 hours. I love P4 P, but again, that is MY preference. (Her non-pro friend now wants the three of us to go out together dancing...)
Funny, "free ass", you feel its better, but can be more expensive.... I fail to see logic, is it the thrill of the hunt?, too much work in MY opinion, my stays in Bogota are for business and I have little time to go hunting in what will most likely be a hunt and fail mission that, even if sucessful, "can be more expensive". (Then is not free).
We all have our different thrills and preferences, my guess is that most on this forum, are looking for the easy and cheap lays. Good that you are having success and are having fun. Not putting down your report, thank you for sharing as there may be others that could gain something from it.
Note: I tried the "free ass" approach via friends chat groups, yes I succeded a few times (Mexico, Colombia and Venezuela) it is just too much time investment for what I want, and via P4 P I'm convinced you find better looking assess and better lays.
Finally if you visit frequently, is the friendship you may develop with the P4 P girls that may "pay off". Last night I had a threesome with a girl I regularly see (she usually stays with me 3-4 hours for her rate of 1 plus sometimes dinner), she invited a non-pro friend that needed a litle something. Everything went, girl on girl, anal, CIM, video, Etc. For 2 hours. I love P4 P, but again, that is MY preference. (Her non-pro friend now wants the three of us to go out together dancing...)Thanks for your insight my friend, it really depends on each person and their own tactics to be honest. Colombia is hard to get to know people especially if you are always on business, I grant you that. Also the fact that paying for it seems a simpler option here, I grant you that as well. But, if you have the confidence in yourself to spend the time and get to know the girl, you may have her in bed in a day or too.
Consider this, a good Colombian hooker can run you about 200,000 pesos, roughly 100 bucks. With less than 50 dollars I can take her out and have a decent meal twice. That is all I need in my book to get her in to bed. Its all relative the way you look at it so if you say it more expensive, its the results that count. Thanks for your advice and I believe if we share strategies we can offer a better insight to the readers of this thread.
Thanks man.
Joey Smith
10-31-15, 01:32
So after reading the advice of some more experienced Bogota mongers I decided to give it another run and see what comes of it.
Thurs started at Pussy House where I picked up a chica there and brought her back for the night. 300 mil plus dinner was the tab. It was good not great, as even though I had her upstairs it seems that a few beers and some dark lighting makes things look a few points better than they really are. We cut ways Fri and I was free to do the Toreador chapinero tour.
Hit all three Casas in the 71 area during the day and evening and pounded one out in each place. 30 k each, no propinas. Beer 3 k.
One was a waste of time, one was a tight 19 yr old from manzinales that I put in doggie and just went to town. And the last was a 25 yr old fitness buff. I actually told her I just wanted a show but it was so hot and her kisses were so amazing that we ended up going at it. Did a repeat later that evening as well.
Earlier that week I was on seeking arrangement and had made a few contacts. Most are pros on there though with some ridiculous pricing 400 Mil / HR to which I counter with my 150 mil 2 hrs + 250 mil a night. However did meet up with a true semi pro. A bit bigger than I like but after some intellectual conversation and a glass of wine we ended up in bed going at it. She was a real naughty one. Deep throat, spitting, slapping hair pulling. In the end got her an uber and 200 k sending her on her way...Gents. Where is the Pussy House located?
Thanks.
200,000 COP is 100 bucks? Did I miss the dollar crashing or something? 100 bucks is much more closer to 300,000 than it is 200,000 COP. 289 k actually.
Thanks for your insight my friend, it really depends on each person and their own tactics to be honest. Colombia is hard to get to know people especially if you are always on business, I grant you that. Also the fact that paying for it seems a simpler option here, I grant you that as well. But, if you have the confidence in yourself to spend the time and get to know the girl, you may have her in bed in a day or too.
Consider this, a good Colombian hooker can run you about 200,000 pesos, roughly 100 bucks. With less than 50 dollars I can take her out and have a decent meal twice. That is all I need in my book to get her in to bed. Its all relative the way you look at it so if you say it more expensive, its the results that count. Thanks for your advice and I believe if we share strategies we can offer a better insight to the readers of this thread.
Thanks man.
Gents. Where is the Pussy House located?
Thanks.CL. 61 #13-64.13 is Caracas, so if by taxi, tell him 61 and Caracas, side of the mountains, it is about 25 yards from Caracas, left side. Do not look for a sign outside, the door will be opened, there will be a bouncer at the door (does a quick check for guns) music blarring and You can see the sign Pussy House while looking in the dooor.
Hi guys,
My advice to any of you planning on coming, do your research and get your contacts ready before you arrive, I have some of the sites if you want them. ...I tried to PM but it says you're not accepting PMs, so let me ask, what dating sites were working for you? Tinder has been the best for me as a I travel. I did have some luck with colombiancupid in Cali but not sure that site has been worth it.
Are the girls on the web sites legit like the one below?
http://www.bogotaintima.com/
Are the girls on the web sites legit like the one below?
http://www.bogotaintima.com/Absolutely not. Use "Search this image on Google" and you will see they are images of some adult models.
Greetings.
JackieChanX
11-10-15, 13:59
Since Juan Pablo's closed I notice that there is not a lot of info on mongering places in the North. Are any of the places around 85 still in business? Some of us still do not feel comfortable going to Santa Fe. Would appreciate your advice.
Juan Pablo is not closed, I was there like 3 weeks ago. It just moved a block away from it's former location, but that was already a couple of year's ago.
I will be in Bogota end of January and staying just by University, seen on map that Pussy House is pretty much close, anyone know what's a average price of pros there and if it's save for single guy. I will be late so think to pass Red Light District as heard many opinion it can be quite rough at night.
I will be in Bogota end of January and staying just by University, seen on map that Pussy House is pretty much close, anyone know what's a average price of pros there and if it's save for single guy. I will be late so think to pass Red Light District as heard many opinion it can be quite rough at night.Pros go for 60-70K COP for "el rato" (20 minutes).
Yes it is safe for a single guy once there, getting there may not be so safe if walking (depends of what direction you are coming from and what time of day), I would not walk from or to the south after dark or to from the west (the other side of Caracas, away from mountains) no so bad walking to or from the north. Better take a taxi.
I Just arrived to Bogota this morning, and staying close to the financial district. I am not unfamiliar with the Bogota scene, but always in want of and somewhat unsuccessful in finding a good legitimate massage in Bogota.
Any information on good massage salon (s), with or without happy ending?
And by the way, I stay away from the expensive hotel spas.
Any help would be appreciated, and feel free to send me a private message.
Digits.
LaQuintaDude
11-17-15, 08:36
If anyone will be around I'll be staying at the Hilton and looking to go out and have some fun, maybe some day activities as well. Send me a message.
Thanks,
Jim
Copied and pasted from the Dominican Republic board:
I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would like to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.I can only compare Bogota and the DR, and Medellin is really the monger capitol of Colombia.
You know the routine in Sosua, say no 30 or 40 times until you find one worth a yes. Or you work the Cupid girls and line them up and hope they show. The cost of either is about the same.
With Bogota you're dealing with a city of 8 million (census) to 12 million (according to the locals) people. Except in the Santa Fe area, the Zona de Tolerencia, it's not anything like Sosua. Overall, the people there are healthier and more attractive than Sosua, but that might just be my preference. In 10 days there, I saw one woman I would consider obese and maybe 50 who I would call fat. I spent every day riding the Transmilenio and walking the streets, so I got a good view of the population.
Prices are comparable to Sosua for food, lodging and chicas. The only real difference is that, like any big city, Bogota has places you probably should avoid. Most of the worst areas are in the south and west. I stayed north, near Parque 93, a popular nightclub and shopping area. Great hotel for about $75 per night, breakfast included.
With Sosua, everything is either walking distance or a short motoconcho ride. With Bogota, as long as you can get to the Transmilenio, everything is pretty accessible. Cost is 1300 pesos off peak and 1700 pesos during peak times. Currently it's about 3050 pesos per dollar. The cost gets you into the station. From there take any bus, transfer as many times as you want. I spent a few hours just riding and getting a bigger view of the city. The altitude might affect you. It keeps the climate very comfortable, but the lower air pressure means you'll probably get winded quicker.
There are a few things to worry about in Bogota. Taxis, especially in the Santa Fe area, can be dangerous. Always better to call for a taxi than to flag one down, especially at night. There's a scam where two men will work together, one pretending to be with the police. They lure you somewhere to verify your identification and to make sure you aren't carrying drugs or counterfeit money. A couple were arrested at the airport several months ago. One other trick is to spike your drink. This happens occasionally in the strip clubs. When you head to the bathroom or while you're distracted, someone drops something in your drink. Then they lead you to a few ATMs, then back to your hotel, you wake up the next day and everything is gone.
I didn't try exploiting the cupid scene for my Bogota trip, but I'm sure it's an option. However, I expect the girls will be less easily impressed than in the DR. Bogota is a world-class city, they are less likely to be impressed with cheap gifts. I also didn't venture into Santa Fe, as it wasn't a mongering trip, but plenty of information is available.
The different strengths, IMHO, of Sosua, Bogota and Medellin.
Straight sport fucking, go to Sosua. It's safe, cheap and everything's within reach. Maybe best of all, there's plenty of fellow mongerers to chat with when you're not otherwise occupied.
For more varied mongering, go to Medellin. The casas have been recommended by many.
For a tourist vacation with mongering opportunity, go to Bogota. Take a ride up Monserrate, visit the gold museum and other cultural sights downtown, head out on Sunday morning to experience Ciclovia, hit the discos in Zona Rosa, enjoy a burger and beer at La Hamburgesa, and an arepa at La Areparia Venezolana. And either venture to Santa Fe, or pick up some of the streetwalkers, try the various massage parlors, use the many escort services, or use your magic on cupid to keep your bed occupied.
It really all depends on what you want to get out of the trip.
I will be in Bogota end of January and staying just by University, seen on map that Pussy House is pretty much close, anyone know what's a average price of pros there and if it's save for single guy. I will be late so think to pass Red Light District as heard many opinion it can be quite rough at night.According to locals you should avoid Pussy House, too many bad experiences.
Red Light District is not that bad, I recommend you to walk down Calle 24 to arrive and leave the place, it is very safe. Within Zona Roja just walk fast and stay alert, I did not have any single problem during more than one week going there that way. Keep in hand some 500 COP coins to keep away hard feelings from guys asking for money, I hardly gave five coins (not even a dollar) to those who asked for money and they were really grateful.
Just keep in mind "No hay que dar papaya" (show valuable objects or walk distracted) to not get robbed.
I hope this is helpful.
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