Bogota Reports

[Bogotan2016]

TEFS that's funny.

Continues on with my point that girls stay longer or accept lower prices at certain times for many reasons just depends on the girl, her vibe with you and how much she needs the money at the time (remembering the girls are very short sighted, if the bill ain't due tomorrow they don't seem concerned).

Another example for Bogota's logbook, in Rio February 3 at precisely 259 pm an escort from hotside shows up at my hotel. Fake name Thai, real name Isabella. We talk, hang out then we fuck and take showers and then sit on my bed and go through music we both like on my iPad and the hour is up. I ask her if she wants something to drink and share my acai (with granola Bogotan) that I had bought earlier. She takes a water and we continue listening to different songs we like and finally at 5 pm she asks if I want to fuck her again for another hour but it will cost more. I say sorry I am too tired and she leaves at 515 pm. Girl was having a good time and stayed longer.

Another example for Senor Bogotan. Was 2010 and was one of my summer trips to Medellin mansion that year. Please forgive me Bogotan for not knowing the exact date or time nor her fake name but it did start with a V. Well I was building rapport with the girl by the pool. She seemed into it and was fun and dancing and laughing at my stupid jokes, I gave her some alcohol I had brought out to the table by the pool. We head upstairs and I'm sure I'm going to have a great session. She is hot, I've built up the rapport and it was a fucking disaster! She went for a CBJ and that might have been the highlight of the session. So moral of the story-- You win some, you lose some.Again man, stick to Bogota, so what you actually do is treat a woman with respect as we all do and then instead of respecting her by giving her a bit more money, you take advantage of her because you're stingy. It's obvious that if you treat a person better they'll be nicer to you, still, I don't see any TLN for 150 000, all I read is about boring experiences of a guy with prostitutes in many cities, go to those sex forums and tell your boring experiences there, stick to Bogota.

[Bogotan2016]

And sometimes is as simple as the way you treat them. Had a couple of girls that work on the north side that stayed with me not only TLN but TEFS (todo el fin de semana = all weekend haha) without even asking for money (gave them 500 K at the end and were very happy). One of them became a regular and would stay with me 2-3 days at the time whenever I visited. Had the same experience at other Latin American cities. Treat them right, it goes a long way.Can I ask you something? A prostitute gets paid for sex, right? An escort gets paid for company and sex, right? If two girls stay with you for the TEFS without asking for money, are they still escorts or prostitutes at that moment? You made it clear that you treat women very nicely, I'm guessing you buy them a few drinks, make them laugh, buy them breakfast, lunch, dinner, all of that. Isn't it possible that you treat them too well and that sends the wrong message to them? Wouldn't it be cheaper to date?

[Gentleman Travel]

Thanks, that is very helpful. It is easy to get the wrong message using translating apps!

Cheers (mucho gracias!

GT.


Con gusto= with pleasure.

Es un gusto conocerlo = is a pleasure to meet you.

Si desea con gusto = if you wish it will be a pleasure.

No, they are not asking you for sex, they are just being polite and showing interest to go out or whatever you ask.

Que gusto fue verte ayer = what a pleasure was to see you yesterday.

Con gusto podemos salir = with pleasure we can go out.

Get it?

[Bogotan2016]

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[Woodman09]

So I was trolling in Santa Fe and out of no where this super cute 18 yo white Colombian brunette. Super cutie! Walked up. Wanted 40 mil. She was real sweet petite hard body-- I asked if she Would 'Chupa sin Condom' She said Si! And we went into the hotel next to California Whiskeria. Super hot session!

Love it when I get that kind of action. The intense sex is hard to find that cheap! I'm older 53-- Does this girl have daddy issues? I'm glad to help her out!

So Sarita is going to be around for a month before she goes back to Armenia.

[Woodman09]

So I was trolling in Santa Fe and out of no where this super cute 18 yo white Colombian brunette. Super cutie! Walked up. Wanted 40 mil. She was real sweet petite hard body-- I asked if she Would 'Chupa sin Condom' She said Si! And we went into the hotel next to California Whiskeria. Super hot session!

Love it when I get that kind of action. The intense sex is hard to find that cheap! I'm older 53-- Does this girl have daddy issues? I'm glad to help her out!

So Sarita is going to be around for a month before she goes back to Armenia.I forgot to mention. She has super cute large B cups. This girl gave me great BBBJ. Letting me gag her good. Good times! I will be Seeing her soon!

[ldao]

You wouldn't happen to have gotten her whatsapp contact would you? I'm in Bogota until Friday. Last night I called an agency and saw Tatiana (http://bogota.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/las-mas-calientes-y-hmedas-[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)-te-cumplirn-todas-tus-fantasas/3402343), she is the one in the black panties with her butt facing you and the one taking a selfie. It was 160 K for 1 hour, definitely GFE lots and lots of kissing! She has a fantastic body, her face is cute but you can tell she is getting older. She offered to come back tonight without the agency all night for 250 K, I would take her up on it but I sleep with 1 woman in the states here I want to play.

[ldao]

Hi Woodman,

Would you be willing to share her contact info?

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[Woodman09]

This is Laura she works near 23 d and 15th at the new hotel she's from Pereira. She comes into town like every other month- GFE $60 mil for me anyhow.

[Woodman09]

You wouldn't happen to have gotten her whatsapp contact would you? I'm in Bogota until Friday. Last night I called an agency and saw Tatiana (http://bogota.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/las-mas-calientes-y-hmedas-[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)-te-cumplirn-todas-tus-fantasas/3402343), she is the one in the black panties with her butt facing you and the one taking a selfie. It was 160 K for 1 hour, definitely GFE lots and lots of kissing! She has a fantastic body, her face is cute but you can tell she is getting older. She offered to come back tonight without the agency all night for 250 K, I would take her up on it but I sleep with 1 woman in the states here I want to play.Hey,

Now. I don't want to share. At least until she Pisses me off. But there's hotties out there. Happy hunting.

I may contract her for some photos as I shoot girls sometimes for Score Group, so Hopefully will have those soon.

[DrPorn]

I was in BOG for work earlier this week and was free on Tues night so I decided to check out Pussy House in Chapinero. Located on a side street which looks kind of unsafe. But once inside, there is a long stage (2 strippers performing while I was there), a bar, and many tables and short couches. About 10-15 other girls were walking around or seating chatting / drinking with guys when I entered. 1st floor is main area, 2nd floor is a disco (not crowded), 3rd and 4th floors are where there are rooms for fun.

I watched the dancers from a small couch in the back for a while and did not see anything very good until after about 20 minutes, a half Asian / Latina spinner (Laura) sat at a couch with some other girls and a guy. She is early 20's and I soon caught her eye and motioned her over. My Spanish is decent so we talked for a while. I was drinking a 5 K peso beer; she ordered one from the waiter and hers was 15 K pesos (imagine that- still very cheap though). After some conversation, I asked how things worked upstairs. I wanted 30 minutes but she said only 20 minutes is allowed. She wanted 80 K but we settled on 70 K for 20 minutes for oral and sex with a cover. I initially asked for oral sin preservative, but she said no everything is with preservative. We also exchanged WhatsApp while we were talking earlier. Once we agreed on price we walked to the bar, I paid the bartender, who wrote Laura's name in a ledger and on a small sticky note and gave her one condom. Laura and I went upstairs to 4th floor where there was a young man that took the sticky note, wrote her name in another ledger, and asked for a tip. I thought WTF, why should he get a tip?? But I had a 2 K bill so I gave it to him and Laura and I entered a basic room with a poor excuse for a bed and a mirror on the ceiling. We had just finished after 15 minutes, when the guy knocks on the door. She went to use the bathroom while I dressed. We walked downstairs together and then I left.

If I ever go back I will use the facilities there but contact a girl via WhatsApp and have her come to me.

[TeddEBear]

Just landed. Inbox me to show me the way!

[PepolesBuddy]

What's the average 1 hour rate for GFE including BBBJ for:

Indies?

Escorts?

Brothels?

I know it all depends on your negotiation skills and your game. But wanted to ask personal experiences.

[Dtaylor1972]

Good to see theres some hope for that down there. Used it on and off in the states. With some success, and some flakes as well.

Can be fun, but as you said its a lot more work.


So I've sprouted for a SA account in Oct and more recently mid-Dec. Before I share my experiences I think it's worthwhile to also share a bit

That said SA takes a lot of work to weed through the crap. I'd say the 8's-10's are on there expecting big money 500 mil+ for a few hours but they start out even higher like iPhones or shopping. My response is good f-ing luck as we're not on the same planet. The 6's-8's who are in the mid-20's can make it worthwhile and here's my experiences:


I've collected a few more whatsapp #'s of those who expect 200-300 mil for a few hours but it's clear they're pros while I was hoping for a more exclusive non-pro mistress type arrangement.

Would I spend more time / money on SA. Probably not as I think I can spend the same amount of time hunting in Santa Fe or Chapinero where I know it's 60 k (or less). That said unicorns may exist and that 9. 5 who wants to be only with you and expects 200 mil for the night is out there.

[Woodman09]

What's the average 1 hour rate for GFE including BBBJ for:

Indies?

Escorts?

Brothels?

I know it all depends on your negotiation skills and your game. But wanted to ask personal experiences.GFE can go for $40 M to $500 M + It depends on how the girl feels about you. So-- there are no hard numbers-- I live here I Know.

[BigTimeFun]

Awesome Best list I have ever seen. You should open a business as a tour guide. At a minimum I will treat you to a night at one of your favorite when I come in town.


GENERAL

I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia. I'm settled now, living and working in Bogota since 2 years. This is a complete report about all the options available in Bogota. It's not a compilation of info I found in Internet, I have visited all the described locations during this year, so information is updated and double checked. I went through all the locations of World Travel 69's excellent map. If I don't mention one of them then it's because I couldn't find it for whatever reason (wrong info, wrong address, closed location). Or the place didn't offer sex, or the place offered sex but not with girls. No kidding! In the map there were a couple of gay clubs, needless to say I did not mention them here.

I have left the very best at the end of my report, don't miss it, the best kept secret of Bogota, never reported before on ISG!

Don't hesitate to contact me for a drink and a chat if you are visiting Bogota.

Comparing the Bogota scene with the rest of Latin America, it all depends what you are looking for. My personal rate would be Rio first, Buenos Aires second and Bogota third.

- In terms of looks, I would say Buenos Aires first, Sao Paolo second and Bogota third, but then again it's personal because I'm more into European looking girls.

- In term of ethnical diversity, Colombia comes third after Brazil and Cuba.

- In term of quantity and diversity of options, Bogota comes third after Rio and Sao Paolo.

- Rio has by far the best facilities, Termas being similar to German FKK. Bogota comes fourth after Rio, Sao Paolo and Buenos Aires.

- In terms of safety and touristic facilities, Buenos Aires comes first by far. Cuba is safe, but the mongering scene is legally complex.

- In term of genuine sex, Brazil comes first, Cuba second.

- In terms of attitude, genuine passion and tenderness, Colombia comes first.

I used to say that if you are looking for PSE, go to Rio, if you are looking for GFE, go to Bogota.

Comparing the Bogota scene to the other cities in Colombia, Medellin has the fame of the most beautiful girls in Colombia, but they are far too artificial with fake tits, boobs and low personality. The Medellin scene is also way smaller with way less options than the Bogota scene. The Cartagena scene is another option only for the beach, the safety and the touristic options available. When it comes to pure mongering, the scene is small, the girls are less beautiful, more expensive and spoiled due tourism.

HOW TO GO

Most nationalities are allowed to stay 3 months without visa in Colombia with a possible 3 additional months. There is no mandatory vaccination except yellow fever if you intend to travel to the Amazone.

From Europe to Bogota, there are daily flights with Air France from Paris, KLM from Amsterdam, Lufthansa from Frankfurt, Iberia and Avianca from Barcelona and Madrid. This year 2 new airlines will start, Turkish Airlines but more interesting the low cost airline Air Europa.

From the Americas, Avianca, Copa, LAN will connect any Latin American country and the USA to Bogota as well as major Caribbean Islands. American Airlines, United Airlines and Delta have all direct flights to Bogota from the USA, as well as Air Canada from Canada, Aeromexico from Mexico, La Cubana from La Havana, Avior and Conviasa from Caracas, Aerolineas Argentinas from Buenos Aires.

There are no direct flights between Colombia and Asia or Africa.

Don't forget to bring a coat even if Colombia is on the Equator, as Bogota is at 2600 m and temperature drops to 10see at night. Don't forget also to learn a bit of Spanish before to go, as most Colombians don't speak English.

MONEY

The Colombian peso is at its historical lowest exchange value since the oil price drop. 1 $ is at 3000 Peso, it has never been more interesting than now to visit Colombia. Most ATM will not deliver more than 300.

000 at a time, but you can make as many cash withdrawal as you want. As there is a fixed fee for each withdrawal, best is to choose always the highest amount. Bancolombia allows up to 400 000 and the green ATM from Servibanca have a maximum limit of 780 000.

Minimum salary is 240 $ and a lunch will cost 2 $.

SAFETY AND HEALTH

For any emergency, call 123. Each neighborhood has a CAI, a local Police station.

Bogota has excellent private clinics as long as you can pay for it. If you have a health issue, I would recommend www.miclinicavip.com.co CL. 97 #23-10,tel. (1) 7452727 as they are specialized in foreigner without local medical insurance.

Viagra and Cialis is available in any pharmacy without prescription.

Colombia used to be the most dangerous country in the world, but Pablo Escobar is dead, peace has been signed with the FARC, crimes and kidnaps have dropped drastically, Bogota being now in the average of South American cities of similar size, which is still high of course. Kidnap and crime is definitely not an issue anymore as long as you are not involved in politics and drugs.

Petty crime is the major issue nowadays. As soon as you arrive, put all your valuable belongings in a safe and keep only a photocopy of your passport and cash for the day. It's OK to walk in the street by night in the Norther Area (roughly between Calle 67 and Calle 153 between Autopista / Caracas and the mountains) but always use a taxi by night outside this area.

Foreign tourists are king in Colombia, police will never bother you as long as you are not involved in drugs of course. Crime is not targeting tourists and most Colombians will have a safe look on tourists in order that nothing will happen to them.

WHERE TO STAY

Best and safest is to stay around Zona T and Parque 93, the two areas where you will find all the nightclubs, bar restaurants and malls for the upper class. All hotels are girl friendly, there might just be an additional cost for double occupancy. Girls like any other guest need to show ID, which is also for your own safety.

Of course, here are also the most expensive hotels of the city, but a great deal is: www.viaggio.com.co, full furnished apartments or studio for 180 0000 a night including breakfast. They have several buildings in the area, my personal recommendation would be the Virrey, at a walking distance from both Zona T and Parque 93.

In order to avoid roaming cost and to allow the girls to contact you, best is to buy a local prepaid SIM card (Movistar or Claro) for 20 000 (or 90 000 including cellphone). Additional minutes can be bought at any Carulla or Exito store.

If you don't want to bring your girl at your own hotel room, this is a great love motel: www.amartesuite.com Calle 62 #14-19. Actually there are dozens of love motel in the same block offering rooms with hourly.

Rate. Problem is that love motels respect privacy and will not ask for ID. For your own safety, don't bring a girl here from the street or from internet that has not been registered in a club or agency.

LOCAL TRANSPORT

Local transport is a nightmare: traffic jams, overcrowded buses. If you are in Bogota just for a few days, easiest is to take the yellow taxis, a trip will cost you between 6000 and 12 000,20 000 for the airport.

If you start to get around, you can try the Transmilenio a bus system with stations as a metro system. A ticket is 2 000 and will bring you anywhere in the city.

I will not recommend to rent a car, it's expensive and traffic is too difficult even with a GPS. In addition you need to find every time a parking which will cost same as a taxi.

Directions are easy as streets and avenues have numbers. The mountain chain will indicate the east direction. From there, parallel to the mountain chain start the Carrera, 0 being the mountain chain, numbers increasing westward. The Calles start in the historic center, increasing going north. They increase also going south, with an additional S to indicate it's in the southern area of the city. A Diagonal is a Calle just that it's not exactly parallel to the others, and a Transversal is a Carrera that is not exactly parallel. Carrera 24 # 40-20 means that the direction is on Carrera 24 at 20 meters from intersection with Calle 40.

ESCORTS

OK, you have just arrived in Bogota after a long flight, check-in at you hotel, shower, but it's already the evening and too lazy to go out. Easiest is to call an escort. Find hereafter the escort sites, all agencies:

http://serviciosprepagos.com/

http://www.amantesdeldeseo.com/

http://www.amapolas.net/

http://www.avispitas.com

http://www.colombianitasbellas.com/home.htm

http://eroticasbogota.com/

www.eroticservicesbogota.com

http://solitasparati.com/9/

http://escortsincolombia.com/

http://escortsbogota.com.co/

http://www.angeleslatinasescort.com

http://www.amadax.co

http://www.prepagosbogota.com

www.class-models.com

http://www.mujeresbogota.com

http://www.prepagos1000.co/prepagos-bogota-escorts-vip

Can't really recommend anyone, as it all depends of the girl and I suspect most girls to be registered in several agencies, so it comes all to the same. Average price is 200 000 an hour. Needless to pay more, chances are the same girl will appear. Yes, you will rarely have the girl form the picture. It's not a rip off, but simply at the moment that you call, they have no idea who is available. Once you called, they will try to reach the girl and at the end send the girl they can contact. But don't worry, the girl will be as beautiful and as young as the picture and will give excellent GFE service including often DFK and BBBJ. Take care also to pay afterwards, not upfront.

http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/bogota/ is an internet site with adds. You will find here some independent girls, but most adds will bring you back again to agencies. You will also find escorts advertising on Twitter and even through Tinder, but for your safety take care that she will go through a hotel desk where she needs to show ID.

MASSAGE PARLORS IN ZONA NORTE

Next day, you slowly start to get around the hotel. There are several day options in Zona Norte, all massage parlors. They are all in safe and discrete locations without sign, 3-4 girls in a line up, prices between 40 000 and 150 000 for a massage, 80 000 up to 300 000 for a poor massage with fair sex including BJ, often on an uncomfortable massage table sometimes a bed. Payment is upfront. Most girls are beautiful but already with some mileage in my books, average age is 30-35 years. It's therefore not my favorite scene, but excellent if you are looking for a safe, relaxed and discrete scene. Anyway, entrance is free, so don't hesitate to visit several of them before making up your choice. Take out is usually not offered.

If you don't want to lose your time in visiting, just try my best recommendation: Av. Carrera 15 #104-03. It's a building with some stores at first level and a mezzanine above these stores. Just take the stairs to the mezzanine and you will find half a dozen of massage parlors with tinted windows and a number on the door. Most doors are half open with a girl at the entrance to invite you in. The massage parlors are open every day including Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 40 000 for a massage and 80 000 for massage with sex. Each massage parlor has 3-4 young and above average girls, so plenty of choice.

The other massage parlors from North till South:

- Abejitas Avenida Suba #103 b-73. http://www.abejitasmasajes.com/. Open every day from 8 am till 8 pm. Pricing 40 000 for a massage, for sex 100 000/30 min and 180 000/60 min. 3-4 girls.

- Princesita Av. Carrera 15 #116-59, Apt 202. Open every day except Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing 40 000 for a massage, 80 000 for massage with sex. 2-3 girls.

- Loutron http://loutroncolombia.com/loutron-colombia.html Carrera 11 A # 98-49. Open every day except Sunday from 12 am till 10 pm. It's by far the most upscale massage parlor. Great facilities, 4-5 girls make a line up as if they are top models on high heels and bikini. They are impressive at first sight, but at second look they have all fake boobs and too artificial for my taste. Pricing is 150 000 for massage and 300 000 for sex.

- Absolut Spa Carrera 16 # 80-66.20 http://www.absolutspa.com Open from 10 am till 8 pm every day except Saturday. Pricing 40 000 for massage, 80 000 including sex. 2-3 girls.

- Colorin Spa Carrera 14 #79-70 at the second floor. Open from 9 am till 9. 30 pm from Monday till Saturday, from 10 am till 5 pm on Sunday. Pricing 120 000/30 min and 160 000/60 min. 8 above girls.

- Avispita Carrera 14 #79-62, at the second floor. http://www.avispitas.com. Open from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing 185 000 including sex. 2-3 above girls.

- Apertua Via Spa Carrera 13 a # 79-71 at the second floor. Open from 9 am till 10 pm. Pricing 180 000.2-3 above girls.

- Sensity Calle 78 #13 a 20. Pricing is 180 000 including sex. Open from 9 am till 9 pm. From Monday till Saturday. 8 girls.

EXCLUSIVE CLUBS IN ZONA NORTE

Night time, time for some more serious action! As you made a long trip to get here, you just are looking for the best that Bogota has to offer. Good news, the best clubs are in the Northern Area close to your hotel and each club is at walking distance of the next, although walking from the first south to the last north would be too far. They are the typical nightclubs rooms for sex. Also most have podiums with pole dance, there are seldom strip shows. Except Porky, the clubs have no signs, but obvious bouncers at the door indicate that there is a club. Here is where you will find the hottest girls in Bogota and of course also the most expensive. Average age between 20 and 30, very good looking and nicely dressed. There is usually a 150 000 fee for the club to go to the room or to leave the club with the girl, the rest is to negotiate directly with the girl, around 200 000 to 400 000 for a shorty and 300 to 600 000 for all night. For local standards, these prices are way over rated, but then again compared to what you would pay in USA or Europe for an escort, it's still a good deal as girls are very hot and service is excellent.

If you are just for a short trip to Colombia, an all nighter is definitely my recommendation as once back in Europe or USA it's virtually impossible to pay for making love all night with a young top model looking girl. What makes the service so good with all night? Well, first, the girl is not in her brothel territory but in your territory, she doesn't want to take the risk to deal with an unsatisfied customer while more vulnerable. Second, being out of the brothel environment, it helps both to forget that the relation is within a business agreement as Colombianas have a natural trend to be tender and sweet. Third, that night you will be her only client and sex partner, some nights she even has any client, she therefore will give the best of her. And last, payment is not upfront but when she leaves. That night she will be your girlfriend and risk is high to forget she is just a pro.

Only problem of these clubs apart from the high prices is the harassment of the crew to make you drink, you and the girl. Once you have ordered a bottle, pressure drops, but please check pricing before ordering. All these clubs have clear prices advertised, but prices are overrated at least for local standards. May be throwing big money in expensive clubs surrounded by beautiful girls is your idea of fun. I would.

Rather recommend to just take a glass, chose quickly a girl and get out of the club in order to keep the money for the sex.

There are no cover fees to get in these clubs; they are all in a walking distance from one another and in a safe area even at night. Most probably you will be spotted by some local dude that get a small commission to bring a customer to a club and that will bring you from one club to another. They will not really harass you, are not dangerous and at least will show you around all the existing clubs. These clubs start to open at 7 pm and close at 3 am every day.

Walking from South to North:

- El Padrino Carrera 14 # 81-10. Tel. 320 425 7750. https://www.facebook.com/clubelpadrinointernacional/. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. Impressive line-up, 40 very hot girls, no cover, pricing for the room or exit fee is 180 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.

- Porkys Calle 83 #14 A-28. Tel 314 371 8000 https://www.facebook.com/Porkys-Club...8361188396084/. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. 40 very hot girls, no cover, exit fee 185 000, the girl will ask 200 000- 300 000 for a short time and 3000 000- 600 000 for all night. There are no rooms in the club, but the club has a hotel nearby at additional price. This club got some problems a while ago as employees ripped off clients with their credit card.

- Lewinski Carrera 14 # 85-17. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. This a smaller bar compared to the others. There are just half a dozen girls, but why not throw a look as entrance is free. There are no rooms inside and exit fee is 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.

- La Piscina del Norte Calle 86 A # 14-45, a black house easily to spot. Open daily from 7 pm till 3 am. Don't expect a swimming pool as you might fin dit in a FKK, it's just a decor pool. 30 girls, strip tease, rooms on site. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.

- VIP Calle 86 a # 14-57 next door of la Piscina del Norte, smaller and cheaper facilities. 15 girls, strip tease, rooms on site. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.

- Red Garden Calle 86 A # 13 A-44. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. It's just lower class bar compared to the others, but it's just in front of the 2 former clubs, so why not have a look. There are just half a dozen girls way less beautiful than in the other clubs in the area. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 200 000- 400 000 for all night. Very few customers here, you can easily negotiate down the prices.

- Lalo's: Cr 15 # 88-33. This is the most popular club, here you will find the best choice in term of looks and quantity. Impressive line-up, some 40 very sexy girls. It's also the most expensive one. Open daily from 6 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 165 000 for the room or for exit fee. Girls ask 200 000- 400 000 for a short time and 400 000- 800 000 for all night, as they have to pay daily 100 000 to the club.

- Juan Pablo Zhivago Carrera18 and. 93 46. Open daily except Sunday from 7 pm till 3 am. Tel, 616 47 74. Open daily from 6 pm till 3 am. https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago/. This is my favorite club, as it's the only one that understands that clients don't want to be harassed by a crew of waiters in smoking. Therefore it's a popular club for Asian expats ready to spend money as long as it's in a safe and quiet environment. As it cutters to Asians, they have even Karaoke rooms, but no rooms for sex. No cover, no strip-tease shows, no one to harass you to sit on a table, to drink or to be with a girl. There are only 15 girls, but due to the quiet environment, it's here that you have most chance to find a truly occasional student just trying to pay her college. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out, the girls will ask 300 000 to 600 000 for the night.

- Lido Carrera 14 # 95-33. Open daily from 9 pm till 6 am. This club disappeared from the radar when they built a building on the former location. The new location is just a block away from the historic one. Open daily from 6 pm till 6 am. High end and large facilities, 30 hot girls. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out or room, the girls will ask 300 000 to 600 000 for the night.

- Punto G Carrera 15 #95-80. Open daily from 9 pm till 6 am. It's a new club, a block away from Lido. Just 10 girls, probably because they just start in the business, but the club has potential. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out or room, the girls will ask 250 000 to 500 000 for the night.

- Lancaster Carrera 15 #106-58. Tel 520 68 19 https://www.facebook.com/people/Lancaster-Paris/100008354311188. This club also disappeared from the radar when they closed their location in Calle 90, but they opened again much Northern. Open from Monday till Saturday from 8 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 160 000 for take out or for the room, the girls will ask 250 000 to 500 000 for the night. There are only 10 girls, not really worth the visit as it's also further away from the rest of the clubs.

- OZ Club Calle 74#20-39 www.ozclub.com.co Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. This one is not in the Northern Area anymore, but it's a high end club, at least regarding the pricing. At first I believed it was just a "barra why tanga" and that no sex was offered, but yes they do. 20 000 cover and for this you get a private strip show, although there are also public strip shows. The facilities are nice, but there are only 10 girls. Pricing for sex is to be negotiated with the girl, but expect 200 000 including the room. There is also take out, bar fine is 140 000 and the girl will probably ask 200 000 till 400 000 for all night.

DAY BROTHELS IN CHAPINERO

After a night full of action, you start to get used to the city and are looking for a more local exotic scene than the high scale clubs catering for tourists and wealthier locals. You don't need to wait till the evening; there is a great day scene of small brothels in Chapinero at very low cost price. This scene is basically on Avenida Caracas between Calle 72 north and calle 53 south. On this 2 km long axis, there is a convenient Transmilenio. Chapinero is a popular neighbor with a lot of students and small businesses, quiet and safe during day time.

My good friend Zing23 did a great investigation job in this scene when he stayed a couple of months in Bogota and World Travel 69 did a great job as usual for updating his map.

All these brothels open daily between 9 am and 9 pm, a lot are closed on Sunday. Pricing? Hard to believe, but between 20 000 and 30 000, which means between 7 and 10 $! Ugly girls? Not at all! Most are young girl next door (well next door if you live in Colombia of course!) between 20 and 30 years old, working on daytime as working at night is always more difficult to explain to family. What is the counterpart of all that good news? There is no! A great scene for the mongerer looking for unlimited sex as cost is not an issue anymore.

I have listed the brothels from north to south as you can easily and safely walk from one brothel to another, visiting the neighborhood, hop from one pussy to another. The brothels have all the same type of facilities: a bar with cheap drinks, a line-up of half a dozen girls, no cover, no pressure to enter or to leave, rooms in the venue. Facilities are cheap but clean. There are usually no showers available however for the customer.

Hard to recommend specific place, as it all depends of the girl of course not of the brothel. If you take your time to visit the different places, you can find some real gems. The basic service includes total nude, BJ, multiple position sex. If you chose the option of additional time (30 min or 60 min instead of 20 min), you might expect more than just a quickie: BBBJ, DFK and GFE if there is some chemistry with the girl.

Take out is usually not offered and most girls will decline meetings in the evening as they have chosen this scene because they can't work during night time for personal reasons.

If I have to recommend one, it would be Chicas Milenio Calle 71 #14 A-24. It's also the only one that is open daily day and night, from 9 am till 3 am. It's also the one with most girls, between 10 and 15 on a shift. It is also one of the most expensive whatever it means: 30 000 pour 20 min, 40 000 pour 30 min. If you want to visit only one, it should be that one. Chicas 2000 is just in front, worth to visit also.

When walking from one brothel to another, you will start to recognize the houses that are brothels: no signs, no rooms, but an open door with a guard at the entrance. There are also a couple of dudes in the street that will spot you and hand you over ID cards with addresses of a brothels.

Find here after the list from North to South:

- Tantra Carrera 20 #72-30. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Princing massage+sex 40 000/20 min 60 000/30 min. 80 000/ trio. 5 girls.

- Alcazares Carrera 26 #71 B-61. Open from 9 am till 7 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 42 000/30 mn. 4 Girls.

- Chicas Milenio Calle 71 #14 A-24. Open from 9 am till 2 am every day. Pricing 30 00/20 min and 40 000/30 min. 12 girls.

- Chicas 2000Calle 71 # 14 A-27-33. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 30 000/20 min, 40 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. 12 girls.

- Bar La 70 Carrera 17 # 70 A-80 www.paradise-bogota.com . Open daily from 8 am till 9 pm. Pricing 25 000/20 min 30 000/30 min. A great place to hang around, 8 girls.

- Calle 68 #17-85. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. Only 4 average girls.

- Acuarius Carrera 19 #67-93. Open from 9 am till 8 pm every day. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. 4 average girls.

- Video Bar Carrera 19 # 67-47. Open from 9 am till 8 pm every day. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. 3 average girls. Not worth the visit.

- La Bonita Carrera 15 #67-24. Open from 9 am till 9 pm every day. Pricing 25 000/20 min and 30 000/30 min. 6 girls.

- Tantra alle 67 # 15-10. Nice White House but with only 4 average girls. Open from 9 am till 8 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 25 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min.

- Las Vegas Club Calle 67 # 16-23. Nice night Club facilities with rooms. Open from 9 pm till 9 pm every day. 10 girls.

- Bar Las Divas Carrera 17 # 66-32. Open daily from 9 am till 3 am. Pricing is 22 000/15 min, 27 000/20 min and 32 000/30 min. 3 girls.

- Carrera 17 # 66-23. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. 3 average girls and pricing is to be negotiated. Not worth the visit.

- Bless Bar Carrera 15 #66-22. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 22 000/20 min. 6 girls.

- Palmeras Real Carrera 15 # 66-17. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 22 000/20 min, 32 000/30 min and 64 000/60 min. 10 young and nice girls.

- La Mansion del Placer Carrera 16 #65-23. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min and 60/60 min. 5 girls.

- Calle 66 # 17-08. A new place Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/30 min and 50 000/30 min. Only 2 average girls. Not worth the visit.

- Lottus Bar Calle 65 # 13-61.

- Gaticas Av. Caracas # 64-36. Open daily from 9 am till 11 pm, pricing is 30 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min and 65 000/60 min. 6 girls.

- Bar Reservado "La 64" Calle 64 #15-30. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 30 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. 5 girls.

- Calle 64#15-18 Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/20 min and 40 000/30 min. 3 girls.

- El Para****arrera 15 # 63-26. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 7 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min. 3 girls.

- PalmiraCalle 63 # 16 A-42. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 30 000/30 min. 5 girls.

- 112 Masajes Calle 62 #13-31. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 60 000/30 min and 90 000/60 min. Just two average girls, not worth the price.

- El Tercer Piso Calle 61 A # 13 A-39. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min. 3 girls.

- Sex on the Way Carrera 9 #57-76. Open daily from 10 am till 8 pm. Clean facilities and 9 girls, but way more expensive than the others. 60 000/20 min, 90 000/30 min and 120 000/60 min.

- Lewinski Bar Calle 57 #9-35. Open from Monday till Saturday from 10 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/30 min, 40 000/30 min and 70 000/60 min. Clean facilities, 6 girls.

- Alisch Spa Carrera 17 # 53-36. Open from Monday till Saturday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 30 000/20 min, 40 000/30 min and 70 000/60 min. There is sauna and Jacuzzi available. 4 girls.

NIGHT CLUBS IN CHAPINERO

You are looking for a night brothel, don't want any more the high end clubs from the Northern Area with overrated prices, but don't want also to take risks in the infamous Zona de Tolerencia, here a great advice, there are 2 great night clubs in the Chapinero area: Pussy House and La 49. I always had very good experiences here, expect good service.

Pussy House Calle 61 #13-64. Open from 5 pm till 2 am from Monday till Saturday. No cover. The neighborhood looks unsafe, no sign, but everything looks better once inside. The first floor is a stripclub with pole dance, bar, you shaped sofas. The second floor is a nightclub where couple dance on salsa music. Rooms are in the third and fourth floor. There are 30 to 50 girls between 20 and 30 years old. No cover, cheap drinks, 120 000 for an exit fee but most go to the room, pricing is 70 000/30 min. A private strip dance is 40 000. As drinks are cheap, you can stay here, drink and have fun all night, no need to worry for the final bill. It's a popular club and there are a lot of clients on Friday and Saturday.

There are a few low level night clubs in the area taking advantage of the popularity of Pussy House.

- Las Divas Calle 61 # 13-81, just in front of Pussy House. Open daily from 1 pm till 2 am. A strip club with some rougher atmosphere. No cover. There are some 20 average girls here, not at the level of Pussy house.

- Salome Calle 64 # 13-88. Open daily except Sunday from 1 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/20 min, 50 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.

- Nueva Pasarela Calle 64 # 13-73. Open daily except Sunday from 5 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.

- Innova Pasarela Calle 62 #13-46. More a night club than a day brothel, open daily except Sunday from 11 am till 11 pm. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 5 girls.

- Calle 62 #13-46. Open daily except Sunday from 11 am till 11 pm. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.

La Forty Nine (La 49) Carrera 13 # 49-77 tel. +57 tel. (1) 2888773 http://fortynineclub.com/. It's a monument in Bogota, with its kitsch facilities easy to recognize on Carrera 13, several movies have been shot here. It has better facilities than Pussy House and is also more expensive. Night club with pole dance and strip shows in the main floor, restaurant and rooms in the basement, mezzanine with a great view on the entire club and more rooms on the second floor. No cover. There are 30 girls between 20 and 30 years old. As prices are higher than Pussy House, there are less customers: 120 000/30 min in the room. It's still a great option compared to the more expensive northern clubs or the less safer clubs in Zona de Tolerencia.

Again here there are a couple of clubs in the neighborhood taking advantage of the notoriety of la 49. The most obvious is the next door club, as you might easily enter the wrong door. But once inside, it's obvious that it's not the notorious 49: poor facilities and just a couple of average girls. Other low level nightbars:

- Calle 49 # 13-70. Open from Monday till Saturday from 1 pm till 2 am. No cover, strip shows, 10 girls and pricing is 50 000/30 min.

- Calle 49 #13-98. Open from 10 am till 3 pm from Monday till Wednesday, from 9 am till 5 pm from Thursday till Saturday. No cover, strip show. 10 girls and pricing is 50 000/30 min.

STREET ACTION IN ZONA DE TOLERENCIA

OK, you start to feel more comfortable with the Bogota scene, you are now ready for the infamous Zona de Tolerencia. It's not my favorite scene, but then again, it's not to be missed for a punter visiting Bogota as nowhere else in Colombia you will find so many sex workers per square meter.

Main problem of the zona de Tolerencia is that everything is tolerated, not only prostitution. There are some real creepy dudes here. It's always busy, there is always police in the area, it's not that you risk your live. But pickpockets, drunk dudes, a trans that start a scandal, claiming money for a blowjob he never gave. Enough possible experiences that might ruin your stay.

My advice would be to visit the area first during daytime and get used to the area. By night, don't walk outside the main block where there is police presence and bouncers. If you are drunk, you should definitely not walk outside, do everything with a taxi. Best would be anyway not to drink and have a wingman by night.

On daytime, you can easily take the Transmilenio and get out at station Calle 22. You will notice the building of La Piscina, Zona de Tolerencia is behind that building: Carrera 15,16 why 16 A between Calle 23 and 24.

Street action starts at 9 am and ends at 3 am. At peek time, there are probably 200 girls waiting in front of the numerous motels. Typical motels are Doll House, Las Vegas, El Encanto, Pasada Nare, Manizales.

There are also numerous smaller bars where girls hang out for a short time in the nearby motel.

Pricing is 20 000 till 30 000 plus 7 000 for the room. As the girls are waiting in front of motels or inside bars, you might easily mistake it for a brothel or a club. There is a huge difference however, the girls are not working for the motels or the bars, don't decline ID to them unlike what is happening in brothels and clubs. Therefore, robbing, rip off or simply bad service is much more likely with street action. The girls are between 20 and 30 years old, some good looking. To be honest, I can't report about the service, but don't expect more than mechanic and unhygienic sex. I therefore won't advice this scene, as you can get much better service in a much safer environment for the same cost in the numerous day brothels of Chapinero.

There is also street action in the peripheral area of Zona de Tolerencia. Needless to say, don't walk in this area by night. South of the Zona de Tolerencia, which means between calle 23 and calle 19 is the TV and other monsters area. Be very careful here!

On the other side of Caracas, there is another street action area, on Carrera 13 why Carrera 13 A between Calle 24 and Calle 18. This is the area of the ugly old women. They usually wait in front of a house or a building's door. If this is your way of having fun, pricing are as low as 20 000. Again, I can't and don't want to report about quality of service.

CLUBS IN ZONA DE TOLERENCIA

Apart from street action, the Zona de Tolerencia has the highest density of brothels and clubs of Bogota, you can literally have sex 24 hours a day 7 days a week, therefore it is very popular. It's not my favorite scene, girls who work here are hard core pro's. It's not exactly the place where you might find your shy innocent student working occasionally here to pay her bills. But then again, it's maybe not what you are looking for. If you are looking for your hot and nasty "bomba Latina" with fake boobs giving great PSE, here is the place to be. Average age between 20 and 30 years old.

The next issue is safety. Again, I would recommend to visit it first during day time. On night time, watch your back. Having said this, the clubs inside are safe, so it's perfectly safe to come and go with taxi and enter directly in any of the clubs. All clubs have rooms but there is also the option to go out for all night for 200 000 up to 400 000. I would however not suggest to come and look for your princess of the night in la Zona de Tolerencia, There are day clubs, nightclubs and even clubs that start after midnight when most clubs close till next morning when the first clubs open again.

The landmark is the famous La Piscina https://www.facebook.com/La-Piscina-...4720090119266/ Carrera 15 # 23-64, no cover. Open daily from 1 pm till 3 am. As it is on Caracas, you can actually access the club without even entering the Zona de Tolerencia. They have a private and safe parking lot. This is the most famous brothel of Colombia, several movies have been shot here. The swimming pool is a nice deco, but is not for using as. Nice and calm place with strip shows around the swimming pool and rooms upstairs. Nice girls also but usually the quantity is a bit disappointing, usually a dozen. Pricing is more than the other clubs, 120 000/30 min. You can actually exit on both side of the club, which is to say Caracas and Carrera 15, which is directly in the Zona de Tolerencia.

The best brothel of the Zona de Tolerencia however by far is El Castillo https://www.facebook.com/ElCatilloVipClub/ Calle 23 # 14-19. Open daily from 7 pm till 6 am, no cover. You can't miss this club, with a huge kitsch sign, at the entrance of the Zona de Tolerencia, La Piscina being on the left side and el Castillo on the right side. Great facilities, impressive deco, a huge strip club on the main floor and nice rooms upstairs. Here there are up to 40 very hot girls, most with fake boobs however. It's also by far the most expensive of the Zona de Tolerencia, 150 000/30 min. The only downside of this place is the pushy staff in smoking similar on what happens in the high end clubs of Zona Norte. Drinks are pricey also here by the way, so check price list. Bust is to order a bottle and get rid of the pushy staff for the rest of the night and enjoy this place with impressive girls.

All other clubs are in a similar pricing range, 60 000/30 min, no cover. Most clubs have obvious signs and strip shows here the list of clubs in the order of the walking path to visit Zona de Tolerencia, starting from the entrance between la Piscina and El Castillo.

- California Night Club Calle 23 #15-22. Open from Thursday till Saturday between 2 am and 10 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.

- Calle 23 # 16-02. Open daily between 3 pm and 2 am. A club on the corner. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.

- Punto de Oro Carrera 16 #23-01, on the other corner. Open daily between 10 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.

Here, turn right into Calle 16 A, the busiest street of Zona de Tolerencia secured and closed to traffic by night with police presence and bouncers.

- Atunes Carrera 16 A # 23-19. This is the temporary location of Atunes, as the historical one on Carrera 16 a # 23-88 has been closed by authorities. As Atunes did a great job on the deco, there is even a huge aquarium, it looks like this temporary location might be for long term. Open daily between 10 a m and 10 am. No cover, 40 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. It's probably the most popular brothel after El Castillo. It's also not so noisy and dark as the other clubs, a nice place to have a bear and relax.

- Eclipse Carrera 16 A # 23-32. It's one of the 4 after hour clubs. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.

- Venus Carrera 16 A # 23-43. Open daily between 2 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.

- Fiebre Sex Carrera 16 A # 23-50. https://www.facebook.com/Fiebre-Sex-846028748743688/. Open daily between 1 pm and 3 am. No cover, 30 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.

- Las Paisas Carrera 16 A # 23-58. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Paisas-Club/187764624697832. Open daily between 4 pm and 3 am. No cover, 30 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.

- Apollo Carrera 16 A # 23-59. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.

-Guau Night Club Carrera 16 A # 69. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.

- La Casona Carrera 16 A # 23-76. Open daily between 4 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.

- KissCarrera 16 A # 23-89. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.

- Atonys Carrera 16 A # 23-88. Open daily between 12 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room. Actually it's the historic location of Atunes, started under new management.

Turn right on Calle 23 and again right on Carrera 16.

-Troya Carrera 16 # 23-89. https://www.facebook.com/Troya-Night-CLUB-343205905774849/. Open daily between 2 pm and 3 pm. No cover, strip shows, 40 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. One of the better clubs, on Friday and Saturday it's packed and there is a cover fee of 10 000 to limit the customers. Actually it has also an entrance on Carrera 16 A where there is a parking.

- Lion Carrera 16 #23-51. Open daily between 3 pm and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 10 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. It's a new club, it has potential to grow.

Around the Zona de Tolerencia, on the other side of the Transmilenio, there are a couple of other brothels just for the record. It's OK to visit on day time, on night I would not recommend this area. Anyway, they are also not worth it:

- Carrera 10 # 19-38. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/30 min in the room. 10 girls.

- Cara Show Carrera 8 #19-31 Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. No cover, strip show. Pricing si 40 000/30 min. 10 girls.

CLUBS IN PRIMER DE MAYO

Although it's the second most important prostitution area of Bogota after the Zona de Tolerencia, no one had ever reported this scene on ISG until why accidentally discovered it when visiting a swinger club in the area. As usual, World Travel 69 did a great investigation job to update his map will all the brothels of this area.

Truth is that Primer de Mayo is far south of the city, but it's also the most important rumba area of Bogota after Zona T. The area however is way not as safe as Zona T as we are in the south of the city. Watch your back here, even if the area is busy on night time due to the numerous regular night clubs, casinos and bars.

All these brothels are strip clubs with obvious signs. However, the scene is confusing as it's not easy to make the difference between a brothel, a strip club without sex (called "barra why tanga' such as Midas, barra la you, Barra la Tanga, Tantalos, Tanga why Aroma, Faraonas). A regular disco and a gay club.

The scene is along Avenida Prime de Mayo between Carrera 68 and Avenida de Cali. A Milestone is the Mac Donald. Stay on the side of the Mac Donald, as on the other side of the boulevard is the gay sector and some can be aggressive.

Would I recommend it? Well, it's not my favorite scene, but if you like Zona de Tolerencia, you will like Primer de Mayo. The atmosphere in this neighborhood is different, there is no street action and day action but once in the clubs, facilities, girls and service are similar to Zona de Tolerencia, Angelos being the Castillo and Guadalajara being the Troya of Primer de Mayo. The girls are between 20 and 30 years old, from average to nice. Service is mechanical, BBBJ and DFK are not included.

Starting from Carrera 68 to Avenida de Cali:

- Los Angeles VIP Avenida 1 de Mayo #68 I-21, on the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. It's an upscale stripclub, no cover, open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. If facilities are great, there are only 10 girls. Pricing is 120 000/30 min in the room.

- Pasarela Show Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-28. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.

- Coliseo Romano Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-30. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.

- Fiebre Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-42. Open daily from 5 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show. 10 girls, pricing is 50 000/30 min.

- Castle Blue Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-46. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.

- Guadalajara Av 1 de Mayo #69 B-53, on the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strips show. One of the best, 20 girls. Pricing is 70 000/30 min in the room.

- Pereira Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-16. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 7 pm till 4 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.

- Angelos http://www.angelos.com.co/ Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-20. Open daily from 7 pm till 6 am. No cover, stripshow. The most upscale club in the area with impressive facilities. However just 10 girls. Pricing is 120 000/30 min.

- Septimo Cielo Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-28. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 7 pm till 4 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.

- Azafatas Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-58. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 10 am till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.

- Moroco Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-69. On the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. No sign, just a door with stairs to the first floor. Open daily from 10 am till 5 am. No cover, stripshow, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.

- Happy Night Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-68. Open daily from 8 pm till 6 am. No cover, stripshow, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.

THE SWINGER SCENE

I lost interest in the mongering scene as paying for sex seems ridiculous when living in Colombia. I however missed the thrill of the underworld scene, and discovered the swinger scene of Bogota. The great thing about the swinger scene is that you have sex with women that really enjoy sex and don't do it just for the money.

I know most punters are not interested in swinging. But give it a try, instead of bringing your pro to a motel, go with her to a swinger club. You will not have sex only with her, but also with other women. Swinger clubs that are open to single men will usually throw a couple of single pro in the crowd so that sex is guaranteed even for single men. You should not be shy however for having sex in public, as the rooms are always open.

For those who have some experience of swinger in Europe or the US, here a couple of differences with the swinger scene in Colombia:

- Nudity is not natural for Colombians. You will often see girls having sex with their clothes on.

- On average, people look better than the average swing public in Europe. Colombian women just take more care of themselves even when older.

- Colombians need alcohol to lose their inhibition. In most clubs you are supposed to buy a bottle, not a glass of alcohol. At the beginning of the evening, most people have their clothes on and they take it of only once they are enough drunk, say midnight. Before midnight things go real slow in most clubs, you might even believe you are in the wrong place.

- Fun for Colombians means not just sex, it means socializing together, making jokes, dancing and drinking. Atmosphere is therefore way better than in European swing clubs where people just fuck silently and I would say sadly.

- There are no condom dispensers in clubs, you can only buy them at the bar. Condoms are often forgotten in the heat of the action even with complete strangers.

- Colombians hate to go out alone. When the clubs are open to man alone, there are lot less men alone than you might experience in Europe, which gives it of course a much better women / man ratio.

- Swing is not natural for the Colombian macho, the vast majority of couples simply love to have sex in the middle of other couples, flirting a bit with the couples around but no real interchange of couples. There are swingers of course, but you have to find them in the crowd.

- Those who are real swingers are in fact mostly not real couples, except elder couples. Most prefer to swing with a friend than with the real partner.

- It is common to socialize and interchange phone numbers with other couples, mainly to be part of the swing network that organize private events in Fincas outside Bogota, but also to find a swinger buddy.

- Spa SW http://swingerbogota.com Carrera 14 #80-25 close to Andres DC in Zona T with parking right nextdoor. It's open from Wednesday till Saturday from 6 pm till 2. 30 pm. Only for couples. After 10 pm there is a cover of 60 000. You have to drink for a minimum of 100 000. Credit cards accepted. The place is upscale, on the first floor a nightclub, on the second floor a huge Jacuzzi and very small sauna and on the last floor the action area with a couple of huge beds. There is nobody on Wednesday and Thursday, on Friday and Saturday it's packed. Everybody comes before 10 pm because of the cover and is in the nightclub area, drinking and dancing with clothes on as in any other nightclub. On midnight there is a couple giving a strip-tease show and after the show everybody moves to the action room. At the the beginning it is a strange atmosphere, most people are still with clothes, very few having action, mostly with clothes while the others are watching. Later at night clothes are off (at least in underwear, as it is common for girls to have sex with underwear. It looks like a huge orgy, but it is not. Most are just having sex with their partner, being at a couple of cm from another couple having sex is enough thrill for most. The Jacuzzi area although great is hardly used. Truth is that it is not very convenient, the dressing room is at the entrance of the club. Nobody wants to cross the night club full of dressed people with just a towel and sandals. The place is not really my favorite, it's the typical upscale club with arrogant people from the higher class who believe they are cool and modern by visiting a swing club while they are in fact not real swingers. Other thing that borrows me, is that people throw their condoms and papers on the floor while a poor cleaning girl has to pick it up all night long.

-Interspa www.intersw.com Carrera 18 #78-50, close to Unilago, at walking distance of Spa SW. Open Thursday till Saturday from 8 pm till 2. 30 am. On Thursday it's also for single men, the other days only for couples. Same price as Spa SW. Valet parking. Credit Cards accepted. It's a very similar club to Spa SW, upscale with a huge nightclub on the first floor and the wet area and action area on the second floor. The Jacuzzi didn't work a while ago, not sure they have fixed it. Similar atmosphere, a normal nightclub till midnight, the striptease show and then everybody moving to the action room. Also similar public, not real swingers.

- Europeo www.europeobar.com Carrera 76 # 16-20 Open Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 pm. Thursday is also for single men, the other days just couples. Parking is at 200 m for 15 000. Credit cards accepted. Entrance is 75 000 of what 40 000 for drinks. Although it has been renewed recently, the place is way less upscale than the 2 others. What borrows me most is the ventilation problem and the smell of humidity from the wet area. But what is great here is that everybody first has to go to the locker area, leave the clothes and go for the typical towel / sandals. On the first floor there is a night club with an action room in a mezzanine and in the basement the wet area and an other action room. The sauna and hammam are great, the Jacuzzi just seems dirty. But here it comes, it's simply the best swing atmosphere in town, here are the real swingers. People just don't wait the typical strip-tease show to go crazy, its genuine fun here. The night club has a great atmosphere, everybody dancing salsa or cumbia half naked, couples switching while dancing. When the strippers come, it's hard for them, the public is hotter than they are, and women try to fuck the male stripper. I've seen here a wet tshirt contest, men with water guns shooting the contestant girls and the rest of the public. In the jacuzzy, you will experience half a dozen of hands gripping your dick while you are masturbating two pussies on the same time. People have sex in the Jacuzzi without condom even with strangers. The action rooms are small, the couples are literally one on another. You can grab as much tits and asses as you want and yes here couples swing. If you are looking for unlimited sex, this is the place to be.

- Zafiro www.zafirosclub-sw.com Calle 61 # 15-20. There is a parking lot in front. Open every day from 2 pm till 2 am. However don't expect anything during the week, I guess it is simply used by couples as a cheaper alternative than the motels around as the club is in the middle of the lovemotels area. Entrance 35 000 on weekdays, 85 000 on week-ends open every day also for single men. It's by far the biggest swing club, but the facilities are really downscale, beyond my acceptable level. People have to change in towel sandals before entering, the social room is a great nightclub area, the hammam is great, also the sauna with a window to look at the action area, but the Jacuzzi is too cold. Actually, it's cold everywhere in the club, you just can't handle the temperature with just a towel. There are numerous rooms, all with glass doors to protect the couples from the single men I guess. Atmosphere can be great, but I simply don't like the facilities to spend some time here.

- Monastery Carrera 14 A 83-44 in the heart of la Zona T. Open from Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 2. 30 am. 75 000 entrance with 40 000 for drinks. Credit cards are not accepted. The closest Parking would be from the Carulla nearby. It used to call Bliss, then Tabu, was closed and has reopened with a new management. It is simply my preferred place to go with my novia, especially since they renewed it. Although it's small, it has simply the best facilities, on German FKK level. Same as Europeo, everybody has to change in the locker area. If men have the typical towel and sandals, girls receive clothes depending the theme: pijama party, Hawaiian party, nurse etc. Girls love the concept. The nightclub is small, the action area is much bigger and there is a great clean jacuzzy, a sauna and hammam. The atmosphere looks like the one of Europeo, people have great fun dancing half naked in interact easily as the place is very small. Swing is however not as common as in Europeo but you will always find a couple that is willing to swing.

- Theli y Luna Avenida 1 de Mayo # 69 02 https://twitter.com/theliyluna> Open from Thursday till Saurday from 8. 30 pm till 2. 30 am. It's a black door right next the Mac Donald. Entrance is 70 000, facilities not at the level of the swingers club of Zona Norte of course. The atmosphere is very relaxed, 3 average working girls do their best that everybody socialize with everybody. It's a bit like a German partytreff more than a swinger club. Few other couple, most guests are single men fucking for free the working girls. Fucking 3 girls including the drinks for just 70 000, hard to find cheaper! The sex is very disappointing however, a quick mechanical fuck on street action level. Worth the unique experience however.

- Piscina Normandie Carrera 75 # 54-36 http://www.parejasw.com/. Last, but not least, here is the best kept secret of Bogota. It's a regular swimming pool during the week end but a swinger club from Monday till Wednesday from 3 pm till 10 pm. I guess the mothers would be horrified to learn what is happening during the weekdays in that swimming pool where their children swim!

Monday 60 000 for couples or single men, Tuesday 60 00 for couples and 99 for single men, but sex guaranteed as there are working girls and Wednesday only couples for 69 000. Indoor swimming pool, Jacuzzi, sauna, nice facilities. But best is the atmosphere, as Viviana does her best that everybody socializes together. She has each time new ideas: a colored wristband to indicate availability of the women: red is no, yellow is maybe and green open to anything! All the women together giving soap massage to each man, amazing so many female hands touching your body! Sometimes she organizes a unique event: inverse gang bang! A team of 6 girls gang banging each single man, a once in a lifetime experience!

Best day for single men is Tuesday. Viviana has an amazing network within the swing world and she manages to bring every time enough single girls and open minded couples in order to have a the perfect balance between girls and men and to have guaranteed sex for the single men. The single girls are no prostitutes, I know some of them outside the club, they are swing girls and genuinely love sex. At first the concept seems similar to the German Partytreff, but the main difference is that you are not fucking with bored exploited Romanians but with truly amateur Colombianas that love to fuck. An amazing scene, everybody is naked, socializing, playing in the pool, having fun, drinking, talking and flirting. A dozen of naked bodies in the Jacuzzis with unknown hands grabbing your dick while you finger the pussies you have in your reach, kissing and fucking any girl you want or at least what your body allows. If paradise exists, it must be something close to this place. Couples, singles, guests, staff, hard to see the difference, anyone is fucking with anyone, all girls are open. Girls are between 20 and 35 years old without any artificial high heel s, mini skirt and fake boobs, truly next door girls, naked with sandals, no make-up and wet hairs from the swimming pool. Of course, you need to be open minded, not have a problem with nudity, having sex in public and in group. Don't be surprised that a girl starts to blow another dick while fucking you, or be shy because the guy that is joking with you turns out to be the husband of the girl you are fucking with. Don't treat the girls as prostitutes; be nice and cool as they fuck because they want to, not because they need to. If I did the effort to reveal my favorite place on ISG, do me at least the favor not to spoil it. Anyhow, if having inhibited, genuine group sex is your idea of fun, it's probably the best place on earth you can find, at least I don't know another place where single men can genuinely fuck with swing girls as much as you can do it in a German partytreff.

[ACMilan84]

I arrived in Bogota with an Avianca flight from MEX on Friday, 19 August. Some weeks before the trip I had set up my profile on SeekingArrangements, a service I used with success in Mexico and was not disappointed: I met 3 young (21-23) chicas, all of them no / semi pros (students or single mothers) sweet, GFE and willing to satisfy my requests. I paid 300.000 COP for 6-8 hours or toda la noche.

Since I've read many questions about hotels in Bogota, I think it's useful to share specific info about my experience: I've stayed at Casa Dann Carlton on carrera 93 be #19-44. The hotel ISN'T girl friendly, but there is a way to by pass the problem. I checked in late at night and I was asked to provide the name of the person who was staying with me and when she arrived to spend the night she had to register with a valid ID. The next day I noticed that right after the entrance, on the left, there were 3 elevators that could take upstairs bypassing the reception. So I met the girls outside, on the street and walked with them to the elevators without being noticed or stopped by the guards. Obviously the chicas were dressed appropriately, in a sober and elegant way.

[TrueScotsMan]

Hey guys,

I've took advice from this forum and changed my plans from a hotel to apartment.

I looked at Virrey but to small. I need a luxury 2 bedrooms large apartment that I can make some noise.

If anyone has advice please let me no. I'll be staying for 1 week in November.

Thanks.

[CPlusPlus]

Hi guys,

Doing my 1st Bogota trip, will be staying at the Viaggio teleport suites which based on the information I read its on a good area and walking distance from the high end nightclubs and restaurants. I have been to Medellin in 10 occasions these past two years so I thought I should try a new city for a change.

In the mongering subject it would seem that based on the info that Routard provided, I will deduce that the "Chapinero" area is like an El Centro equivalent to Bogota, for what it seems I will most likely do my dirty business there, and perhaps I may check out that no toleranzia zone to see if I find a diamond in the rough.

Now what about other non P4P stuff I can do? Like what normal nightclubs that are not brothels or places to find pros are good? Not just in the subject for getting laid but also the best to drink, installations, club environment, specials etc etc I like to go to clubs that are similar to lets say like Rio sur in Medellin.

What about touristic attractions? In Medellin they have parque Arby, or one could go San Jeronimo and enjoy its surrounding pueblitos and swimming pools, what does Bogota offer in that sense?

Finally the women, comparing Bogotians to Paisas, I cannot complain with Paisa. I noticed that in Medellin there is a lot of silicon, it does not reflect to the women, I found a lot of paisas to be very humble and down to earth chicks, maybe the only exception is that sometimes you might find your shallow women in el Poblado, though I don't find it to be that common, at least if we compare it to here to Miami it is not LOL. So can I expect those same positive qualities and attributes from a typical Bogota woman? Or perhaps maybe they are even more complacent than paisas?

Thanks for any info you all can provide me with. I will of course write a detailed and explicit report when I am done with said trip.

[Routard]

Medellin is nicer to live compared to Bogota, more organized city, better transport, better climate. However, Bogota is way bigger and has way more options than Medellin. Best place to go out by night is Zona T, plenty of bars, night clubs, restaurants, shopping malls etc. Irish Pub in Zona T is the typical expat bar, so here is also the place where girls who want to meet gringos come. Don't misunderstand me, it's not a semi-pro pick up place, girls are instead from upper class, have or want to travel abroad, speak or want to speak english and come here to remember the good time thay had or want to have in Europe or USA. Other incredible and unique place is Andres Carne de Res in Chia or Zona T, a must. A great place to relax during day time is Parque Virrey especially on Sunday when there is Ciclovia (roads closed to traffic and open only for pedestrians and bikes). As it's the park from the upper class neighborhood, here is where you will find the most beautiful girls of Bogota during daytime. As for touristic visits: Candelaria, the historc colonial city, Plaza Bolivar, the teleferico to Montserate with breastaking view over the city, Museo de Oro and Museo Nacional... Outside Bogota worth visits are the salt catedral of Zipaquira, the salto de Tequendama or Piscilago in Melgar, the biggest water park of Latin America. Melgar is some king of springbreak place where youth from Bogota come to have fun during week end as it's down the moutain with again tropical climate: swimming pools, hotesl, night clubs, fincas for rental etc...A great place to go out by night is Toni-K VIP as it's a high end open sky nightclub where all the girls are in shorts and Tshirts and end up drunk in the swimming pool.

[CPlusPlus]

Medellin is nicer to live compared to Bogota, more organized city, better transport, better climate. However, Bogota is way bigger and has way more options than Medellin. Best place to go out by night is Zona T, plenty of bars, night clubs, restaurants, shopping malls etc. Irish Pub in Zona T is the typical expat bar, so here is also the place where girls who want to meet gringos come. Don't misunderstand me, it's not a semi-pro pick up place, girls are instead from upper class, have or want to travel abroad, speak or want to speak english and come here to remember the good time thay had or want to have in Europe or USA. Other incredible and unique place is Andres Carne de Res in Chia or Zona T, a must. A great place to relax during day time is Parque Virrey especially on Sunday when there is Ciclovia (roads closed to traffic and open only for pedestrians and bikes). As it's the park from the upper class neighborhood, here is where you will find the most beautiful girls of Bogota during daytime. As for touristic visits: Candelaria, the historic colonial city, Plaza Bolivar, the teleferico to Montserate with breastaking view over the city, Museo de Oro and Museo Nacional... Outside Bogota worth visits are the salt catedral of Zipaquira, the salto de Tequendama or Piscilago in Melgar, the biggest water park of Latin America. Melgar is some king of springbreak place where youth from Bogota come to have fun during week end as it's down the moutain with again tropical climate: swimming pools, hotesl, night clubs, fincas for rental etc...A great place to go out by night is Toni-K VIP as it's a high end open sky nightclub where all the girls are in shorts and Tshirts and end up drunk in the swimming pool.Thank you so much! You sure went beyond my expectations with your post, what a ton of valuable information and left me speechless. Thank you so much I am truly grateful, I will see when I get the chance to get paid subscription here to use messaging and see if I can contact you through there and the least I can do for you if you will be unoccupied would be to invite you to a pint at your favorite pub or bar! Again thank you for this valuable information, believe me that I will try to do everything I can that you suggested within my 5 day time frame that I will be there.

[Routard]

You are welcome! Oh! And I forgot your second question regarding differeces between girls of Medellin and Bogota. It's just how Colombians usuallly will answer such a question, as of course you can't generalize when you are describing a population of 8 000 000.

Girls in Medellin are the typical Paisa, ethnically European, beautiful, very feminine and sweat. Stereotype is also that they are superficial and operated, obsessed by their physical aspect with poor personality and intelligence.

Girls in Bogota are a bit more ethnically mixed, with however a strong tendency to be etnically European in the higger social classes of Northern Bogota and with more Indian mix in the lower social classes of south Bogota. Very few have fake boobs compared to Medellin and enphasis is not on physical aspect but on career. Yes, people have to struggle more in Bogota to survive, so stereotype is that girls in Bogota are smarter, more independant towards men and also more stressed due to traffic and long working days.

It's just a tendency, compared to girls in USA or Europe of course girls in Bogota are hundred times sweater. You can start talking to any girl in Bogota, they will always reply nicely, you can invite them to have a drink, or ask for her phone, they will nearly always answer positively and if they answer negatively, they will still be flattered and will never, ever be rude like Western girls.

[WWLL]

Thanks for your magnum opus.

On Christmas eve I will have a 19-hour layover at Bogota Airport. I thought the easiest way to monger would be to get one of the escorts. Will escorts go to hotels at the airport. Are there any airport hotels that are not girl-friendly? Which agencies would respond to my calling in English?

Many thanks.

[Routard]

There are a couple of hotels close to the airport for business, but they are pretty pricey. All hotels in Bogota are girl friendly and escorts have no problen to visit hotels. At worst there might be a different price for single and double occupancy. Another option for a short time when in transit is Motel El Dorado Avenida Calle 26 #96 a-20, the typical love motel. However, for a 19 hour stop, there is time enough and it's not worth to keep it to the airport area. Agencys might atend you in english, it all depend of the operator that will atttend you at that moment. There are a couple of agencies especialized in foreign business men and always atend in English, but I would rather consider them as ripp off. Paying 5 or 10 times more just because the operator speaks english...

[World Travel 69]

Try These:

1. http://www.viaggio.com.co/.

2. http://www.vrbo.com/61021.

3. http://www.aptscolombia.com/index.php/en/.

4. http://www.theapartmentbogota.com/.

5. https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/654822?sug=51.

6. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g294074-d1720257-Reviews-Chapinorte_VIP-Bogota.html.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2956-Bogota-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments


Hey guys,

I've took advice from this forum and changed my plans from a hotel to apartment.

I looked at Virrey but to small. I need a luxury 2 bedrooms large apartment that I can make some noise.

If anyone has advice please let me no. I'll be staying for 1 week in November.

Thanks.

[Alex7J]

GENERAL

Best day for single men is Tuesday. Viviana has an amazing network within the swing world and she manages to bring every time enough single girls and open minded couples in order to have a the perfect balance between girls and men and to have guaranteed sex for the single men. The single girls are no prostitutes, I know some of them outside the club, they are swing girls and genuinely love sex. At first the concept seems similar to the German Partytreff, but the main difference is that you are not fucking with bored exploited Romanians but with truly amateur Colombianas that love to fuck. An amazing scene, everybody is naked, socializing, playing in the pool, having fun, drinking, talking and flirting. A dozen of naked bodies in the Jacuzzis with unknown hands grabbing your dick while you finger the pussies you have in your reach, kissing and fucking any girl you want or at least what your body allows. If paradise exists, it must be something close to this place. Couples, singles, guests, staff, hard to see the difference, anyone is fucking with anyone, all girls are open. Girls are between 20 and 35 years old without any artificial high heel s, mini skirt and fake boobs, truly next door girls, naked with sandals, no make-up and wet hairs from the swimming pool. Of course, you need to be open minded, not have a problem with nudity, having sex in public and in group. Don't be surprised that a girl starts to blow another dick while fucking you, or be shy because the guy that is joking with you turns out to be the husband of the girl you are fucking with. Don't treat the girls as prostitutes; be nice and cool as they fuck because they want to, not because they need to. If I did the effort to reveal my favorite place on ISG, do me at least the favor not to spoil it. Anyhow, if having inhibited, genuine group sex is your idea of fun, it's probably the best place on earth you can find, at least I don't know another place where single men can genuinely fuck with swing girls as much as you can do it in a German partytreff...Bogotá is the place to be mate: and you my man Rotard are a genius. I would love to start mongering in Bogotá as I love Colombian women. I've had some in HK and Guangzhou and now in BKK but there is nothing that can beat a true place like in Colombia itself.

You have opened so many more new doors and possibilities for us mongers in Dubai: Cheers man.

God bless your holy soul for writing this encyclopedia.

Someone put this is in ISG ROD and not Colombia ROD.

Peace.

[Gentleman Travel]

I just got back from my first visit to Colombia and I had a good time and some fun sexy experiences.

I am more interested in non-pros and semi-pros than escorts, so I skipped all the escort sites and pussy houses.

I fished in Hi5 and latinamericancupid.com for Girl Friend types, looking for a "normal girl" who might respond to financial or lifestyle incentives. Being 50+ and looking for a girl half my age, and having no Spanish and being in Bogota for only a few days, I had no expectation of finding a real freebie, but I wanted a girl who was not a pro.

The first thing is there are relatively few girls on these sites who speak a reasonable amount of English, so the no Spanish thing is a hugely limiting factor. And neither of those sites have tons of eligible profiles, so the pool gets small pretty fast, depending on your criteria.

Ultimately I found a couple of girls in Bogota and a couple in Manizales, where I was going to spend most of my time. I will file a separate report about Manizales.

The best prospect turned out to be Caroline, a 27 year old nurse who looked pretty hot (sorry I cannot seem to transfer her photo from WhatsApp to here). I mentioned my "Sexy Nurse" fantasy. She mentioned she had a "Sexy Policewoman" outfit but no sexy nurse costume. So I bought one to bring with me. And we chatted about a bunch of other sexy things, so she seemed a reasonably certain bet. At first she pretended to be shocked when I said I was married, but then she re-engaged, so I figured she had moved on from potential romance to commerce.

I tried to find out what her expectations were of me. Financial or otherwise. But she was coy about that, so I let it be.

After some complications we met up at my hotel. Morrison Hotel 84 in the Zona Rosa. She looked spectacular! Pretty enough face, though a few more miles than expected. But isn't that always the case? Painted on jeans and fuck-me shoes. And magnificent tits projecting half-way across the lobby, mostly exposed. My kind of girl!

She had a largish purse with her, which she proposed putting in my room while we went out for drinks (it was now past dinner time), thus presumably an over-night bag. Again, my kind of girl!

I think the hotel made me pay 80 K per night to register her, which I thought was steep, but not much to be done about it in the circumstances. We went out, had a couple of drinks, did some flirting via translation app, then went straight back to my hotel. Getting on the elevator, another couple was getting off that was much the same. Older, businessman-like guy with a sexy, sluttily dressed woman half his age. But I got the impression that they were a real couple, not short-term honey-mooners like Nursey and I.

Up in the room it didn't take long for Nursey to strip and shower and climb into bed with me. She wanted to know where her "sexy nurse" costume was and was disappointed when I explained my luggage had been lost and it might be a couple of days before I got it. But she was brave and well-equipped even without her costume. Those gorgeous tits I told you about (obviously, but nicely enhanced) and fantastic ass and very trim waist. Really a perfect figure. The only thing I did not like was tattoos on her belly leading down to her shaved pussy. But maybe some guys would like that.

She fucked like a champion (covered), including 69, cowboy, reverse cowboy and missionary, shouting "fuck me harder" at appropriate moments, and do cumming a couple of times herself and me once. The only thing I didn't like is she did only a minimal blowjob until a condom was on. Then she was reasonably enthusiastic.

In the morning we repeated this performance, although only after what seemed like numerous showers. Sure, you like a certain amount of hygiene, but sometimes it really interferes with the flow. Still no talk of money.

Then we went out shopping. A clean shirt for me and "a blouse or something" for her. Well, an hour later she has blouses, jeans and shoes all piled up on a store counter when I finally drag her aside and say we have to talk. Then we get into negotiations. The end point is I agree to pay her 300,000 COP (a little over $100 USD) per night, plus the blouse. She is okay with that, but clearly disappointed. I guess she thought she would earn big money and get a new wardrobe. Probably I should have dealt with this earlier, but she seemed reluctant to get into it and it helped the mood that it was not strictly a money exchange (at that point). But probably I should have given her an "allowance" before we went shopping so she could spend it if she wanted or keep the money.

We still had a nice day, although the mood was a bit dampened, with the occasion reference to the jeans I didn't buy her. The night was pretty good too, but not as spectacular as the first and everything was a bit more mechanical. But by the morning, when I had to leave, I was happy enough to be done with her, despite her spectacular tits and figure and reasonably good fucking. However, she always seemed to manage more organisms than I did, which I never think is fair when I am paying!

[YippieKayay]

I just got back from my first visit to Colombia and I had a good time and some fun sexy experiences.

Then we went out shopping. A clean shirt for me and "a blouse or something" for her. Well, an hour later she has blouses, jeans and shoes all piled up on a store counter when I finally drag her aside and say we have to talk. Then we get into negotiations. The end point is I agree to pay her 300,000 COP (a little over $100 USD) per night, plus the blouse. She is okay with that, but clearly disappointed. I guess she thought she would earn big money and get a new wardrobe. Probably I should have dealt with this earlier, but she seemed reluctant to get into it and it helped the mood that it was not strictly a money exchange (at that point). But probably I should have given her an "allowance" before we went shopping so she could spend it if she wanted or keep the money.

We still had a nice day, although the mood was a bit dampened, with the occasion reference to the jeans I didn't buy her. The night was pretty good too, but not as spectacular as the first and everything was a bit more mechanical. But by the morning, when I had to leave, I was happy enough to be done with her, despite her spectacular tits and figure and reasonably good fucking. However, she always seemed to manage more organisms than I did, which I never think is fair when I am paying!So I'd like to give you some advice on improving your experience:

* Real non-pros or semi-pros when they go out with you in public do not want to be treated like a prostitute. Do not under any circumstances mention a flat rate and negotiate with them. It's a big no-no. I had a sugar baby for a year and the one time I tried that she lost her shit. If you're interested in paying for sex stick to pros. Especially with Colombians.

* I never used that website and stick exclusively to pick up bars. Don't worry about the Spanish. My first chica spent six months teaching me. I just used google translate while I was learning.

* Colombians are usually subtle. Especially when communicating in a relationship. For example, it's common to hear them say "Rigalo mi. " which means "Gift me. " when ordering food or a drink. It's just a way of politely asking for things. When she says she wants something and you can't or don't want to give it, say "Si, pero dispuis. " which means "Yes, but later. " Again it's more polite than taking her aside and negotiating. She was probably horrified man.

* Don't ever fucking tell her you're married! Does she tell you she has a boyfriend? She doesn't want to know that shit. Think of it as a trip to Vegas. It's one big fantasy you both can have. She has the vagina and you have the dollars.

* If you are going to take her shopping, and I recommend that highly, do not let her walk around alone. Instead walk with her and comment on anything she gets. Become her fashion adviser. That lets you limit what she buys and impress her too. Always, when you're out with her, have her by your side. They like it. And it lets you be in charge. Most of these women want men who are in charge of shit. Eventually she will always clear any purchases with you first before she goes anywhere near the counter, on her own without guidance.

* Don't be an ATM machine but at the same time expect to pay for the privilege of fucking one girl regularly and having her there whenever you fly down there. I had a chica who would regularly pick me up from the airport, cook if I was renting an apartment, and have outrageous sex on her own without me ever prompting for it. But you're going to pay more.

* If she wants money she will let you know. She will bring up an expense she needs help with. Personally, if it's reasonable I just left the money in her purse without saying anything. Be subtle because she will be too.

* If you like the girl you just met, immediately take her to an upscale store like Versace or some shit and buy her an expensive pair of sunglasses. Something she can never afford on her own. Why? Because it will set the tone that she's in for a special relationship. She'll "feel rich" and different because she herself would never think to shop there. Why sunglasses? The most expensive ones aren't going to be over $300 and it's a one time purchase. If you choose to do this do it early, no more than three days after the first fuck.

* Don't discuss sex ever when you're first meeting her. Don't embarrass her.

This whole fucking hobby is just one big fantasy.

Finally, yes non-pros who are in it for the money will be more expensive than an hourly rate working girl, however, over time it pays off if you want less mechanical women. It's not outrageously expensive in Colombia. You're looking at a few grand every year in shit you buy or give her. Set a budget and train her to stay on it. If the budget and your game is good enough she will even leave her novio, but don't expect exclusivity for long or for it to be reliable.

[AddictedToWomen]

* I never used that website and stick exclusively to pick up bars. Nice post Yippie. Which bars you having most luck in these days?

[QuackUp]

After reading Routard excellent post and getting a cheap fare. $303.00 usd lax to Bog are / t. I went for a short stay. 2 nights in Bogota and 2 nights in Cali. On the recommendation of Routard, first night I went to Juan Pablo Zhivago. I liked this place but unfortunately, not sure if it was the flight or the elevation, but I had a mean headache. I got there around 00:30 and there were about 8 girls. Like Routard reported, no pushy waiters and there were at least 3 very hot chicas. I bought one girl a drink, her name was Dayan. Okay face but with a killer body. We got along very well but because of my headache, I told her wouldn't do anything tonight. She gave me her whatsapp # and said to call tomorrow and she would come by before work. That way I wouldn't have to pay the exit fee.

Next day got up early, did some touristy stuff, then tried to whatsapp the chick. Wouldn't go through. She didn't put in the country code. So as I tried putting it in, I accidentally erased part of the her number. Great going! So I lost out on her unless I go back to the club tonight and pay the exit fee. Which wouldn't have been a problem. At the time I was just finishing up at the Museo de Oro. I wanted to see some of the Santa fe clubs so I walked from there to Fiebre. It was around 14:00 so the walk was fine, no problems. Fiebre wasn't open so I just walked around absorbing all places that are here. It's like Tijuana's red light district only much larger. Went into many clubs but will only go into the ones where I took a girl up. Atunes, I believe her name was Alexandria. She looked like a playboy model. Cost $70,000 cop and the knock seemed like it came early at around the 15 minute mark. No GFE but shagging a hot young playboy type was worth it. Troyas and I believe her name was Luisa. Okay face with a killer body. $60,000 cop around 20 minutes. Again no GFE with CBJ then the shag. Seems like unless you are a regular, it's get in and get out. After Troyas, got something to eat and took a taxi to pussyhouse. I didn't really care for this place because of the pushy waiters. I can't remember the name of the girl but it was $70,000 cop for 1/2 hour. This chick at least DFK which was nice, CBJ then the shag. Another reason why I don't think I will be back here, there was no shower or wash basin in the room. I at least like to clean up a little. All I got here was tissue to wipe off. Same with the girl so I'm glad I didn't try DATY with her.

Finally after 3 sessions, I thought it would be a waste of money to go to Juan Pablo but I wasn't quite finished. So I went back to Santa fe and into El Castillo. Was kind of dead but unlike on Routards post no pushy waiters. At least not today. There were only 10 girls with about 5 customers. The girls were in like an alcove and never moved. Maybe it's different when the place is crowded. No strip show all the time I was there. I did take one girl up, can't remember her name either but she would smile at me every time I looked her way. It was $150,000 cop for the 1/2 hour and with the exception of the CBJ, it was pretty close to GFE. Non stop dfking DATY multiple positions and an overall good time. I did offer a tip for a BBBJ but was declined.

Even though the venues in Bogota are spread out, I really did enjoy my short time here. I only scratched the surface but now I'm wanting more. When I return, I will be back at Juan Pablos and finish what I started on this trip. The next day I went to Cali and spent two nights with my ATF there. One tip. While booking my Bogota to Cali flight, Viva Colombia was the cheapest but without baggage. I then tried expedia to see prices and most flight were around $160.00 to $180.00 usd one way. Way to high. So I changed my IP address to show a Colombia address and went onto latam website. I booked my flight from Bogota to Cali for around $60.00 usd and it was for are / t. So much for the American pricing. I have flown with Viva Colombia before and they were fine but sometimes the times could be way too early or way to late. With latam or Avianca you have more choices on departure times. Anyways, not sure if I just lucked out doing it this way, but it did work for me.

Again thanks to all the contributors and especially Routard for his fine post that any newbie going to Bogota should read.

[Bijou]

... So I changed my IP address to show a Colombia address and went onto latam website. I booked my flight from Bogota to Cali for around $60.00 usd and it was for are / t. So much for the American pricing. I have flown with Viva Colombia before and they were fine but sometimes the times could be way too early or way to late. With latam or Avianca you have more choices on departure times. Anyways, not sure if I just lucked out doing it this way, but it did work for me.Useful info. Can you provide additional details on how to do this? Was it through a VPN service like Hola? Also, in the past when I've tried to book on VivaColombia website using an American CC, I could never manage to pay for the flight I was trying to book, even when using the Colombian portal to enter the site. Did you run into any of this when changing your IP address to book the flight? Any suggestions on how to get around this?

[QuackUp]

Hi bijou,

I use ipvanish. I used this service because at the time I couldn't get into gpguia.net a Brazilian site.

[CPlusPlus]

I went last week to Bogota for a few days with a wingman of mine (he does not have an account here unfortunately, he could have shared his experiences as well which was more than mine). The Viaggio apartments were a little far from where I wanted to be, parque 93 was much closer to Chapinero and Santa Fe so we rented a very nice apartment in parque 93 from airbnb, very economical 2 story 2 bedroom for $100 a night ($50 each splitting it with my homeboy) chica friendly with nice private security.

So me and my homeboy arrived there Thursday and well when we stepped outside the airport we requested a taxi to parque 93 to our apartment and we got a taxi for 40 K COP, great, but holy shit what traffic!! It was as bad as Mexico DF traffic!! We arrived at our apartment around 5 PM, dropped off our items and scurried to our first destination, which based off on Routard suggestion it was chicas mileroticos! Holy shit what an awesome environment!! It was not very crowded, like 8 of us dudes but young guys like us university guys, they had a working girl fucking a random dude right there, nice ass games like spraying whip cream to a girl and if you aim it right to their pussy you get a complimentary beer jajajajaa. It was great environment and wow a good selection of chicas, maybe because it was Thursday but more working girls than customers but fuck it even better for us, they were all 8's and a few 9's (9's relative to what you like) and yeah I chose a nice operated tits girl, mind you guys I am no good with names they introduced themselves to me and I here their fake ass names and they all go from one ear to another, but this puta was nice, very friendly bought her a beer and asked what does she offer in the menu, she said she is all in, she will do anything I requested as long as there was a negotiable commission, so I asked what was the rate and she responded 40 k for 30 minutes, and I said I would do a hour session and offer another 120 k for BBBJ, DFK, fuck and destroy her ass. She agreed and everything went excellent with that chick, it sucks that I can't remember the name for you all (cause rarely do I repeat putas, however I do lie to them and tell them I will if they treat me nice.).

My homeboy went with two chicks that night, not simultaneously but one right when we went in and another two hours afterwards, uff the second one he got was a nice thin dark skinned with a beautiful round ass, sexy as fuck! From there we went to eat in Zona T, mind you guys I was drunk as fuck at this point so I don't even know the name of the restaurant we ate, but it was delicious guys, Colombian food but a nice sit down restaurant (to make it easier it was a block from the shopping mall that has a forever 21) I was obnoxious as fuck but no matter when I am obnoxious I tip well the servers to justify my raunchy behavior. Then afterwards we went to a regular disco nightclub by the name of "Rush" nice ass environment, electronica music nice bitches we were probably the only foreigners there (even tho me and my homeboy are Hispanic) but yeah, we got ourselves a table and a bottle of Jose Cuervo for 140 k COP, we drank that shit and well I did try to spit some game to some Colombians but was not very successful like in MDE, neither my friend, and I actually did get threatened to get my ass kicked since I tried to flirt with a girl that was with her boyfriend LOL, like I said I had gotten fucking drunk and well regardless I had fun, and we left that place and walk to El Padrino since it was like a block away, went upstairs and for some reason all the bitches were staring at us made me mad, then I guess my homeboy went to fuck a Girl while I was a table there drinking a corona, and from there guys my memory dissipated, I erased cassette! I woke up the next morning in my apartment in my bed with just my underwear, my homeboy told me he paid a taxi to take me to the apartment since he went by himself to look for streetwalker action in Santa Fe, and I guess while I was walking up the stairs to my room I threw up all over my self and the stairs, and supposedly by my homeboy the private security took me to my room and when my homeboy came back the private security told him he had to clean up my mess which I guess he did, I woke up smelling like shit and vomit, my homeboy told me he picked up 3 different street walkers sessions in Santa Fe that night and yeah he does not have account to describe that experience, I was already game over.

Friday woke up, showered and went out to have breakfast, eggs and caldo de costilla at some tipical comedor from a block off the apartment. Then we went to chapinero, first tried to go to las Vegas club, but we found nothing we liked (except the bartender but she said she was not a working girl) and I guess we got approached by a manager or I really don't know what the hell he was, but he was Kevin "el flaco" and took us to more venues right next to where we at, he said his patron owned all 5 nearby, so we went to another one called casa Chile, it was good there I found better meat, did a trio with two nice ass chicks, do not remember their names but their were how I like them petite and slim, and I offered each an hour session plus 50 k each for BBBJ and DFK, and they both agreed, all together 200 k for those two chicks, great session until the 50th minute when they were fatigued, I even jokingly said I was going to order another 3 hour session and they did not laugh LOL. We walked to other venues, totally forgot the names of those casas man, but my friend fucked some from some casas and I did to other casas, totally forgot their names and place of the venues but it was everywhere the same price, 20 k 20 minutes, 30 k 30 minutes, 50 k 60 minutes. After that obsessive amount of sex we went to eat at some comedero around that area eating bandeja paisa and I ate a menundencia since I was still hungover from yesterday, we went back home and took a nap, we woke up had dinner and went to pussy house, that shit was like market style, we got a bottle of aguardiente tho and we did not get fucked by with servers, nice selection of chicks, I had a session with a nice skinny chick for 70 k but I forgot her name, went to the room and the motherfucking slick waiter in the roof asked for "propina" I laughed and gave him a 500 pesos coin, I probably imagined he would knock the door early but either way she was in her period which was a big turn off to me, I told her I could not fuck her then that I am not too fond of blood and the std effects of it, so I still had to fuck and saw a stunning 9 girl there called Catalina, I did remember her name, gorgeous, nice body, and she was nice at first! She quoted 100 k for sex, but she was worth it because she was a step above the other females, great session DFK, let me finger and suck her ass, but at the end she asked for a tip, I actually did not have any cash left LOL I told her that and I was sorry but she cursed at my ass in Spanish, very very disrespectful I actually got my feelings hurt, I was drunk and my homeboy could tell, even tho I was able to finish with her but that was so mean of her. Regardless we left and we headed to a night club but a weird ass night club called "vlak" middle of nowhere, looked like a very nice area, it was an underground house club, 40 k entrance fee and 12 k per beer (Heineken) super expensive!! But damn everyone there were tripping out big time, they look like they were on pills and coke, anyways it was getting late, stopped by a gas station with a el corral and I had like 4 fucking burgers I was drunk and hungry as fuck and we went back to sleep.

Next day we woke up, did normal human being touristic stuff like going to Candaleria, look at jewelry at calle Jimenez, went to the church and the artesanal markets, we even bought some "RHINO" cream in cause we needed to recharge our dicks, then we headed to Casa Milerotico since it had been my favorite venue thus far, so we went and it was just me and my homeboy and another person there at that time, but there were 5 chicks, none of the same ones from that night, but two good looking ones, it was a nice environment I was there chilling drinking and the fat ass who does the music was putting my requested songs. I did a half hour session with this nice brunette operated chick, nice chick, my friend afterwards took her and also gave her some chorizo. Then we socialized with the other dude that he could speak broken English (he was Colombian) he was cool as fuck so we decided to hang with him as well and from there we headed to Santa Fe and went to atunes, they went and fucked two each, I was just recharging drinking water trying to sober up since it was still early as fuck and I was already pretty drunk. Then after atunes went to eat caldo de res at some comedor there and then to Fiebre, we got ourselves a bottle of aguardiente and sat in the second floor and nice ass chicks, I choose a stunning skinny girl by the name of tatiana, she was very cute and very GFE, I did not request extras I just paid her 60 k for the session and very nice, and sweet, she did DFK, and I did DATY and suck the shit out of her ass (without the need of negotiating for those extras) regardless at the end of the session with her I did gave her 20 k pesos tip just because she was nice and sweet unlike that bitchy puta Catalina from pussy house. From there we made a stop at la picina and saw nothing we liked so we just dashed and got the fuck out of there, then we headed to a club recommended by andres the other guy we ended up hanging out with, and I don't know the name of it or which one it is, it has a second floor, but yeah we went there and jam packed and we sat down with a bottle of aguardiente and few girl approach us, they were talking about exit fees and shit and we were curious for how much, they said 100 k is the exit fee plus we would have to pay them 200 k for the all night til 7 am, so fuck it I chose a nice ass skinny chick there from Pereyra, her name was Salome, my friend choose another girl and we took them to apartment around 1 am and I fucked and cuddled my girl til like 4 am, after that I fell asleep in retrospective it was not really a good deal since it was for 3 hours of sex, basically 100 k an hour, but it is a bargain if you take the girl out lets say at 10 at night and you screw her til 4 AM, then its basically 50 k an hour much better but still its the same rate as fucking a chica in el chapinero. Next day we woke up, at 7 AM, said bye to the girls, went to eat breakfast and we went headed back to the airport.

My Conclusions? Mongering environment Bogota beats Medellin by a long threshold!! The selection and variety of chicas and casas in el chapinero is far wider than that off el Centro of Medellin (and more economical!) Santa Fe Zona de Tolerancia beats Medellin's Centro and Mayorista by a long threshold too. It is not gringo friendly and touristic like Medellin, only saw one gringo monger in my 3 days there, if Medellin one becomes saturated with gringos and turns pussy into overpriced and spoiled like in CTG, Bogota will still be a last hope!

[SX Lover]

on Routard suggestion it was chicas mileroticos! Holy shit what an awesome environment!! It was not very crowded, like 8 of us dudes but young guys like us university guys, they had a working girl fucking a random dude right there, nice ass games like spraying whip cream to a girl and if you aim it right to their pussy you get a complimentary beer jajajajaa.
Hi.

Where is this casa chicas mileroticos. Can you give address. Thanks.

[Parkinsons]

The selection and variety of chicas and casas in el chapinero is far wider than that off el Centro of Medellin (and more economical!) Santa Fe Zona de Tolerancia beats Medellin's Centro and Mayorista by a long threshold too. It is not gringo friendly and touristic like Medellin, only saw one gringo monger in my 3 days there, if Medellin one becomes saturated with gringos and turns pussy into overpriced and spoiled like in CTG, Bogota will still be a last hope!CPlusPlus, thanks for an A++ report. I went to Bogota first before I visited Medellin, and I came to the same conclusion as yours.

[Starfe1]

Would like to take you for dinner and a night out on the town if you have the time.

Is that something you can find the time to do.


GENERALI have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia. I'm settled now, living and working in Bogota since 2 years. This is a complete report about all the options available in Bogota. It's not a compilation of info I found in Internet, I have visited all the described locations during this year, so information is updated and double checked. I went through all the locations of World Travel 69's excellent map. If I don't mention one of them then it's because I couldn't find it for whatever reason (wrong info, wrong address, closed location). Or the place didn't offer sex, or the place offered sex but not with girls. No kidding! In the map there were a couple of gay clubs, needless to say I did not mention them here.

I have left the very best at the end of my report, don't miss it, the best kept secret of Bogota, never reported before on ISG!

Don't hesitate to contact me for a drink and a chat if you are visiting Bogota.

Comparing the Bogota scene with the rest of Latin America, it all depends what you are looking for. My personal rate would be Rio first, Buenos Aires second and Bogota third..

[World Travel 69]

Calle 71 #14 A-24. 30 Chicas in Shifts. Prices: 30 k 20 min. , 40 k 30 min. , 60 k hour. Tel: 249 2927,312 5074. Hours: 9 am to 3 am.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM

Caution: Do not get as drunk as CPlusPlus! He was lucky not to get robbed or worst, in any country.


Hi.

Where is this casa chicas mileroticos. Can you give address. Thanks.

[Routard]

Would like to take you for dinner and a night out on the town if you have the time.

Is that something you can find the time to do.Ure, cont.

[Starfe1]

Ure, cont.Thanks for the response. Your message box is full.

Ure?

Your report on Bogota was a classic in my eyes. I've sent it to a few Ceo's to read.

[CPlusPlus]

Hi.

Where is this casa chicas mileroticos. Can you give address. Thanks.Wrote it wrong, it was milenio, World Travel 69 corrected me.


CPlusPlus, thanks for an A++ report. I went to Bogota first before I visited Medellin, and I came to the same conclusion as yours.Thank you for the compliment, but even I know it ain't no fucking A++ report LMAO I only remembered like half the "stage" names of the putas I banged there, I misspelled my favorite casa LOL, I had not remembered the last place I had gone where the exit TLN was 300 k (but I asked the guy that took us there and he told me, it was la 49, its the one you have to get up stairs in front of gas station.).


Caution: Do not get as drunk as CPlusPlus! He was lucky not to get robbed or worst, in any country.Totally agree with his sentiment!! Unfortunately I tend to drink more than what I can handle, part of my Mexican genes LOL those of you all that are of Irish or like Eastern European descent know the pain LOL. But in all seriousness I was lucky, my "friend" just got a random taxi and just basically dumped me there when I was unconscious, with no sense of concern, the Taxi driver had he had malice intentions, God knows what would have happened to me, but thank God everything good, I actually still had a large sum of cash still in my wallet, I was carrying an iPhone 6 and I still had it when I woke up, like I said everything good but yeah definitely would not recommend that to anybody out there, especially if you going to hang out in Santa Fe.


Thanks for the response. Your message box is full.

Ure?

Your report on Bogota was a classic in my eyes. I've sent it to a few Ceo's to read.LOL. Damn Routard post was so good this dude created an ISG account and paid a subscription solely to meet up with this cat LOL. I wanted to meet up with Routard, I actually tried purchasing a paid subscription but my card was declined! So I just gave up on the idea of purchasing it and besides I am not sure if Routard would have been too please to hang out with my drunk, obnoxious and chauvinistic ass LOL.

[Routard]

LOL. Damn Routard post was so good this dude created an ISG account and paid a subscription solely to meet up with this cat LOL. I wanted to meet up with Routard, I actually tried purchasing a paid subscription but my card was declined! So I just gave up on the idea of purchasing it and besides I am not sure if Routard would have been too please to hang out with my drunk, obnoxious and chauvinistic ass LOL.Don' worry, it's always a pleasure to meet fellow ISG members. I emptied my PM, so it's ok again to contact me through MP.

[Gentleman Travel]

Thanks for the advice. I agree with most of it, but it is not always easy to follow.



So I'd like to give you some advice on improving your experience:

* Real non-pros or semi-pros when they go out with you in public do not want to be treated like a prostitute. Do not under any circumstances mention a flat rate and negotiate with them. It's a big no-no. I had a sugar baby for a year and the one time I tried that she lost her shit. If you're interested in paying for sex stick to pros. Especially with Colombians.
I suppose you are right, I had already burned one lead by trying to agree on financial incentives up front. But I always worry that girls might have unrealistic expectations about what's in it for them. But now that I have been there once, I think I understand the drill a little better.



* I never used that website and stick exclusively to pick up bars. Don't worry about the Spanish. My first chica spent six months teaching me. I just used google translate while I was learning.
I would love to use pick up bars, but couldn't find any info on this. I assume you mean bars where non-pro girls go to hook up with foreigners, rather than hooker bars? Certainly in the mainstream places I went to in Zona Rosa there were no obvious opportunities to pick up chicas.



* Colombians are usually subtle. Especially when communicating in a relationship. For example, it's common to hear them say "Rigalo mi. " which means "Gift me. " when ordering food or a drink. It's just a way of politely asking for things. When she says she wants something and you can't or don't want to give it, say "Si, pero dispuis. " which means "Yes, but later. " Again it's more polite than taking her aside and negotiating. She was probably horrified man.
"Yes, but later" sounds like a good stalling tactic. Will use it next time.



* Don't ever fucking tell her you're married! Does she tell you she has a boyfriend? She doesn't want to know that shit. Think of it as a trip to Vegas. It's one big fantasy you both can have. She has the vagina and you have the dollars.
Actually I am glad I did tell her I was married in this particular instance. I wanted to be sure this was a "mutually beneficial" arrangement rather than a "real" date, because I only had two nights in Bogota and didn't want to do the "not on the first date" dance. Although I clearly would have got much better service if she thought this was real romance. Also, she had been played by a guy a lot like me (same demographic, same hometown) believing he would "take her away from all this", when really it was a "pump and dump". I like the GFE, but I don't like creating false expectations. I am not quite that much of a bastard. Of course that does not mean you have to be honest about everything, just there are limits to being dishonest.



* If you are going to take her shopping, and I recommend that highly, do not let her walk around alone. Instead walk with her and comment on anything she gets. Become her fashion adviser. That lets you limit what she buys and impress her too. Always, when you're out with her, have her by your side. They like it. And it lets you be in charge. Most of these women want men who are in charge of shit. Eventually she will always clear any purchases with you first before she goes anywhere near the counter, on her own without guidance.
Yes, I should have helped her pick out one thing, then paid for it and moved on. Rather than letting her think about a whole wardrobe. That could be "later".



* If you like the girl you just met, immediately take her to an upscale store like Versace or some shit and buy her an expensive pair of sunglasses. Something she can never afford on her own. Why? Because it will set the tone that she's in for a special relationship. She'll "feel rich" and different because she herself would never think to shop there. Why sunglasses? The most expensive ones aren't going to be over $300 and it's a one time purchase. If you choose to do this do it early, no more than three days after the first fucks.
Good idea, the one time purchase part is key. Shoes have no top end and girls always want more.



* Don't discuss sex ever when you're first meeting her. Don't embarrass her.
I don't quite agree with that. I am usually on a short visit and cannot afford long dating rituals. They need to understand I expect sex on the first date. So after a few initial emails, I put a lot of sexual innuendo in my messages, maybe even asking if she will be able to stay over night. Then expectations are very clear. And if the girl is squeamish about this, better to know in advance and move on to someone a little more jaded. In this case we had already worked out the whole "Sexy Nurse" fantasy (plus some other fun things) in advance, including explicit agreement to blow me. So I like that kind of guarantee!

Any way, thanks for the feedback. I am sure my next trip will be more successful, although this trip was a pretty good start!

[YippieKayay]

I would love to use pick up bars, but couldn't find any info on this. I assume you mean bars where non-pro girls go to hook up with foreigners, rather than hooker bars? Certainly in the mainstream places I went to in Zona Rosa there were no obvious opportunities to pick up chicas.
Hooker bars, or bars where a lot of gringos go and girls go to meet them. I'm thinking of places like LDV, Tu Candela in Cartagena or Habanos in Panama. I'm not aware of anything like this in Bogota but someone else may be able to respond.

You should always play the "ticket out of this place and into a new life" game with them because they've come to expect it. Just my opinion.

[TrueScotsMan]

Hi all,

I'm arriving in Bogota in 5 weeks, I plan on staying for 1 week then off to Medellin for 6 days. So my question is should I just stay for 4/5 days in Bogota then get to Medellin? Tough decision.

[Sinbad0007]

Adventurous guy fro Canada like to join forces with a fellow member to enjoy what Bogota has to offer.

I will be staying in the Sofitel Victoria as my research indicates this is a chica friendly place. I am reading diligently all reports here but as a Colombia novice, all advice is greatly appreciated!


Hi all,

I'm arriving in Bogota in 5 weeks, I plan on staying for 1 week then off to Medellin for 6 days. So my question is should I just stay for 4/5 days in Bogota then get to Medellin? Tough decision.

[Sinbad0007]

First I'd like to thank all of you who posted. This is a great resource with amazingly useful information!

I will be in Bogota from October 23 - 28th and would be nice to join forces with a fellow member to explore all that Bogota has to offer.

I am an older, but fit & athletic Canadian and will be staying at the Sofitel Victoria Regia as I understood from previous reports that beside being an excellent hotel, they are chica friendly.

I have no budget restraints, so free and capable to do whatever, but curious to explore all levels of fun.

I hope there is someone who is already there or just arriving the same time frame would be interested joining forces.

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[CPlusPlus]

Hi all,

I'm arriving in Bogota in 5 weeks, I plan on staying for 1 week then off to Medellin for 6 days. So my question is should I just stay for 4/5 days in Bogota then get to Medellin? Tough decision.OK, so it has been two days since you published your post and I was thinking maybe the RTFF vets would have been kind enough to answer your question (I guess not) so I will take a stab at it. I guess I have some experience since I have been at both places, Medellin and Bogota, Medellin countless of times and Bogota I made my first trip a month ago. You should have done it backwards in my opinion, Medellin is more newbie friendly and more english friendly and you could have gotten the rope of things better there. So I am not sure 100% what is your profile, the only thing I know is your Scottish and you mentioned you like to spend for quality service, quality women and quality stay. This is my opinion: If you like high end restaurants, hotels, nightclubs, brothels etc etc Bogota will be better, you will see, all that area in el Norte like Zona T and Parque de la 93 is a lot more high end and luxurious than the Poblado area of Medellin, Poblado you will encounter so many sandalitstas, potheads, old ass ISG members LOL you don't see that in Bogota, plus safety factor El Norte of Bogota is superior in that sense than Poblado in Medellin. If you a hard core mongerer, as in like you are the monger that hunts all kinds of hookers from a-z, whether it be from the streets, to casas, strip clubs, or escorts sites, Bogota is superior all around! Both in an economical sense and also in variety and options. Now for a Semi Pro environment, Medellin is better, I was in Bogota for a small period of time, but Medellin women are more approachable when it comes to all that, comparing normal nightclubs and all where I am looking for normal non p4 p chicks, Bogota did not bring me results like it has in Medellin, I have been able to get laid in Medellin in spite of all the pros and semi-pros there, without having to spend money on sex (only on buying drinks, and a little bit on food) but the clubs in Bogota are a lot more high end, fancier, with nicer installations and a better overall service. Things to do outside of sex in both places will be the same, no place is funner than the other IMO. People wise the same. Depending on your personality, if you a 100% solo rider then this does not apply to you, but if you expecting to socialize with other fellow mongers or people from Europe or the US, then that right there might make your stay at Medellin better, your chances of encountering a fellow European and American is higher in MDE than in Bogota. So with all that said I guess you can make a decision of whether you want to stay those extra days in Bogota or leave earlier to Medellin.

[CucaHunter]

Hello enthusiasts,

I go to Bogota a couple times a year and my wing man had to back out. I am fully fluent in English / Spanish and dabble with pros and universitarias. Will anyone be in Bogota that week and doesn't want to venture out without at least one other gringo? I'm not into any drama and don't get drunk when I'm picking up chicas. My goal is to be swimming in a pool of Colombian pussy juice. Anyone like-minded? Message me.

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[Dtaylor1972]

My Conclusions? Mongering environment Bogota beats Medellin by a long threshold!! The selection and variety of chicas and casas in el chapinero is far wider than that off el Centro of Medellin (and more economical!) Santa Fe Zona de Tolerancia beats Medellin's Centro and Mayorista by a long threshold too. It is not gringo friendly and touristic like Medellin, only saw one gringo monger in my 3 days there, if Medellin one becomes saturated with gringos and turns pussy into overpriced and spoiled like in CTG, Bogota will still be a last hope!Came to much the same conclusion. Before I have even gone there. Tons of info on all of the various options available in BOG. Cheaper, but not so nice weather.

On another topic.

When I ventured to Lima. I always made a stop at the dentist and eye doctors. Wondering if anyone has tried out the opticos in BOG. In Lima got 2 pair good quality glasses and an exam for about 50 bucks. Just wondering about the prices there in BOG.

[TrueScotsMan]

OK, so it has been two days since you published your post and I was thinking maybe the RTFF vets would have been kind enough to answer your question (I guess not) so I will take a stab at it. I guess I have some experience since I have been at both places, Medellin and Bogota, Medellin countless of times and Bogota I made my first trip a month ago. You should have done it backwards in my opinion, Medellin is more newbie friendly and more english friendly and you could have gotten the rope of things better there. So I am not sure 100% what is your profile, the only thing I know is your Scottish and you mentioned you like to spend for quality service, quality women and quality stay. This is my opinion: If you like high end restaurants, hotels, nightclubs, brothels etc etc Bogota will be better, you will see, all that area in el Norte like Zona T and Parque de la 93 is a lot more high end and luxurious than the Poblado area of Medellin, Poblado you will encounter so many sandalitstas, potheads, old ass ISG members LOL you don't see that in Bogota, plus safety factor El Norte of Bogota is superior in that sense than Poblado in Medellin. If you a hard core mongerer, as in like you are the monger that hunts all kinds of hookers from a-z, whether it be from the streets, to casas, strip clubs, or escorts sites, Bogota is superior all around! Both in an economical sense and also in variety and options. Now for a Semi Pro environment, Medellin is better, I was in Bogota for a small period of time, but Medellin women are more approachable when it comes to all that, comparing normal nightclubs and all where I am looking for normal non p4 p chicks, Bogota did not bring me results like it has in Medellin, I have been able to get laid in Medellin in spite of all the pros and semi-pros there, without having to spend money on sex (only on buying drinks, and a little bit on food) but the clubs in Bogota are a lot more high end, fancier, with nicer installations and a better overall service..Thanks for the advice, I'm meeting a local girl in Bogota she said she will help me as a guide and more! I met her on CC about 5 months ago so she's cool. When I go to Medellin I'm stay at a great hotel but also booked mansion for a couple of nights. Maybe I should have done it in reverse.

[TrueScotsMan]

Hi all,

This might be a long shot but I'm looking to get a tattoo in Bogota. Has anyone got experience with an artist?

[Woodman09]

Hi all,

This might be a long shot but I'm looking to get a tattoo in Bogota. Has anyone got experience with an artist?No experience. But there are shops-- there's a shopping center named Viva libre or something like that on 19th st and 4th ave (centro).

[Woodman09]

Came to much the same conclusion. Before I have even gone there. Tons of info on all of the various options available in BOG. Cheaper, but not so nice weather.

On another topic.

When I ventured to Lima. I always made a stop at the dentist and eye doctors. Wondering if anyone has tried out the opticos in BOG. In Lima got 2 pair good quality glasses and an exam for about 50 bucks. Just wondering about the prices there in BOG.Area optica 19th st and 13th ave in centro- Don't have prices though-- Many shops.

[EdenKid]

Hi guys,

Visiting this weekend. Which is generally regarded as the most up-market and luxurious brothel in Bogota? And with the classiest ladies.

Many thanks.

[CubaBound]

Adventurous guy fro Canada like to join forces with a fellow member to enjoy what Bogota has to offer.

I will be staying in the Sofitel Victoria as my research indicates this is a chica friendly place. I am reading diligently all reports here but as a Colombia novice, all advice is greatly appreciated!PM me if you want to hang out. I'm here in Bogota for a few months.

[Routard]

Hi guys,

Visiting this weekend. Which is generally regarded as the most up-market and luxurious brothel in Bogota? And with the classiest ladies.

Many thanks.I would say Lalo's.

[Woodman09]

Been on a Pussy tear last few weeks. Roaming around Santa Fe-- Hitting up on the Street Sweeties. I think I must have boned like 10+ different girls in the last few weeks. Mostly Street girls. But some at Troyas.

Get all Veed up and hit some hot ass little fuck. Go have a coffee and do it again! Last night 3 times 2 with my new GirlFriend hooker- Super cute with natural D cups-- BBBJ!

But I meet so many hot little fuck. I may actually get some photos of the latest soon.

Lots. Really hot looking pussy on the streets for $35 mil.

I just got back from boning this Hot little 18 yr old (my new GF hooker) from Medellin. Hit it twice for $90 mil.

If you hang out a bit you can find quality pussy on the streets of Santa Fe. It's never been better!

That's what I'm talking about!

[Viper10]

Flew in last night and got to Fiebre at about 10 pm. Place was packed and I was surprised how much new talent there was. Probably didn't recognize 80% of the girls. My buddy lives in Bogota and goes to Fiebre once a week and said he didn't even recognize a lot of the girls. I love Fiebre. Definitely my number 1 spot in Bogota. Probably going to head to Lido's tonight as Friday nights are usually awesome there. My buddy just did his veneers at a real nice place in Bogota and is very happy with them. 18 teeth cost him 9 k and it took only 2 days. He went to the states and had a dentist check them out and he said they did a good job. It would of cost him 27 k in the states. Crazy!

Viper10.

[Woodman09]

Flew in last night and got to Fiebre at about 10 pm. Place was packed and I was surprised how much new talent there was. Probably didn't recognize 80% of the girls. My buddy lives in Bogota and goes to Fiebre once a week and said he didn't even recognize a lot of the girls. I love Fiebre. Definitely my number 1 spot in Bogota. Probably going to head to Lido's tonight as Friday nights are usually awesome there. My buddy just did his veneers at a real nice place in Bogota and is very happy with them. 18 teeth cost him 9 k and it took only 2 days. He went to the states and had a dentist check them out and he said they did a good job. It would of cost him 27 k in the states. Crazy!

Viper10.Yeah-- Fiebre is the Bomb. I go there But I get really Busy with the Streety Sweeties! A lot of Great clubs Paisas, Troyas. So much good pussy, so Little time. There's a new club named Lion on CR 16.

[Amornl]

I will be in Bogota next week any good recommendation?

[EdenKid]

I would say Lalo's.Thanks! I arrived on Monday (17th) and everywhere seemed closed for the public holiday! Was on a layover. Till next time! Thanks for the reply.

[Woodman09]

Yeah-- Fiebre is the Bomb. I go there But I get really Busy with the Streety Sweeties! A lot of Great clubs Paisas, Troyas. So much good pussy, so Little time. There's a new club named Lion on CR 16.By the way-- A lot of the girls from Fiebre, Paisas --others work at Attunes and Troy for the early crowd.

Also I must have been pussy drunk when I wrote that English challenged post about the street girls in Santa Fe.

[Lion55]

First time mongering in Bogota but have been to Medellin several times. I only had one afternoon free to have fun so I decided to follow Routard's recommendation and hit up a couple of the massage places at Av. Carrera 15 #104-03, as it wasn't too far from where I was staying. First round was pretty standard fare. Nice looking chica with a great rack and ass to go with it. Fairly decent massage followed by better then average CBJ and then FS in CG position. I didn't last long once she climbed on but no complaints.

I went and got a bite to eat and a drink and went back for round two. This time I hit the jack-pot. The massage place was the first one in the row. I think the chica's name was Iliana or Juliana, I can't remember for sure. Thin figure and long hair dyed a deep maroon color. I paid the 80 K for 40 minutes and assumed she would use up a chunk of the time with a massage and then would rush to get me off like the first chica had done. Boy was I wrong. What actually occurred was almost GFE service except for everything being covered. Once we were undressed she came up to me and put her arms around my neck and nibbled on my ear when I bent over to hug her. She then turned around and rubbed her ass against my cock. A LFK which became DFK when I squeezed her ass. She turned back around to face me when I cupped her breasts and pushed them towards my face. She moaned softly when I sucked on her nipples, which responded by becoming erect. I reached between her legs and was a bit surprised to find that she was wet. She squirmed as I fingered her and gasped when I found her sweet spot. At this point I was quite hard so she put on the cover and began a nice BJ while I continued to finger her. Then I lay her back on the massage table and went down to the why. She was really into it, squeezing my head with her thighs and putting her face her face to the padded wall to muffle her now quite load moans. When I came up for air she leaned over and gave me a long DFK. Then I climbed back up and the table and told her I was ready for the main event. We went through a number of positions including CG, ACG, K9 and mish before I finally popped. We were both pretty sweaty at this point so we cleaned each other off. A few minutes of cuddling and I got dressed. She gave me another DFK before I left. Definitely not what I expected!

[DrPorn]

Planning a week in BOG in early December. Looking for non mongering activities like tennis and poker during the day. Wondering if anyone knows of any tennis clubs where you can pay to play or any poker rooms (low-limit holdem).

I found a place called Liga tennis Bogota online, does anyone have any firsthand info?

Thanks in advance.

[DoctorF123]

Routard,

Thanks so much for your tremendous additions to this site. I've lived in Bogota for about 5 months and would like to buy you a few drinks in appreciation. Just not sure how to private message yet.

[Jason M]

Trying to give back, but not sure if any of this is new info. I was in Bogota for 3 weeks and will give what updates I can. Went to Casa de Coño (Calle 61 #13-64, it's on the map) several times. It opens in the afternoon but I never went there before 6 pm. If you've never been there you could miss it, even from 10 feet away. The only light comes from inside and at times there is only one guy in front. Most taxis from Zona de Tolerencia don't know it. But inside it's a large strip club with 2-4 dancers at any one time. Note: many of the girls sitting around are not dancers but want to go upstairs for "un rato". I was quoted 60-90 mil and never bargained. Reasonable service with no real standouts (but Tania who is very beautiful). You can take your date upstairs and it's more like a bar without a stage. Also, count your change as it's not uncommon for waiters to short you. Across the street and about 30 yards closer to Calle 14 is Divas (Calle 61 #13-79), which also is very discreet from the outside. The club is smaller and up a flight of stairs. Similar pricing at 50-80 mil. Sandra is in her 30's and provides decent service and has been working there for a few years. Note: Divas seems to treat its women well, which is important to me. Both of these places, as for most clubs in Zona de Tolerencia, are loud as fuck.

Spent more time in Zona de Tolerencia, especially on Carrera 16 a. There are so many clubs in this area, especially on this street, that it makes me feel very safe. Fun starts in the afternoon. Venus is always fun with a good show, but is always crowded. Casanova is good and Ana, the black waitress is trustworthy. Also, they seem to treat the women well. Valentina provides great service, is very nice, not a drinker, and is smoking hot (I like them natural). She and her friend Sari (provided a good 3-way show. Prices for a short time typically run 50 mil in these places. The waiter in Atunes was pushy and dishonest. Piscina in nicer than many down there, at least the room are, and more expensive. Note: any of these waiters can hook you up with "party favors" if you're into that.

The love hotels in Chapinero are a good value. I used Las Palmas on Calle 62 but there must be a dozen in the area. $10-15 for 4-6 hours with clean sheets.

[Parkinsons]

Trying to give back, but not sure if any of this is new info. I was in Bogota for 3 weeks and will give what updates I can. Went to Casa de Cono (Calle 61 #13-64, it's on the map) several times.... Most taxis from Zona de Tolerencia don't know it.That's probably because locals know it as Pussy House or Pussy's House.

Reports are always welcomed, regardless new info or not!

[Woodman09]

Trying to give back, but not sure if any of this is new info. I was in Bogota for 3 weeks and will give what updates I can. Went to Casa de Coo (Calle 61 #13-64, it's on the map) several times. It opens in the afternoon but I never went there before 6 pm. If you've never been there you could miss it, even from 10 feet away. The only light comes from inside and at times there is only one guy in front. Most taxis from Zona de Tolerencia don't know it. But inside it's a large strip club with 2-4 dancers at any one time. Note: many of the girls sitting around are not dancers but want to go upstairs for "un rato". I was quoted 60-90 mil and never bargained. Reasonable service with no real standouts (but Tania who is very beautiful). You can take your date upstairs and it's more like a bar without a stage. Also, count your change as it's not uncommon for waiters to short you. Across the street and about 30 yards closer to Calle 14 is Divas (Calle 61 #13-79), which also is very discreet from the outside. The club is smaller and up a flight of stairs. Similar pricing at 50-80 mil. Sandra is in her 30's and provides decent service and has been working there for a few years. Note: Divas seems to treat its women well, which is important to me. Both of these places, as for most clubs in Zona de Tolerencia, are loud as fuck.

Spent more time in Zona de Tolerencia, especially on Carrera 16 a. There are so many clubs in this area, especially on this street, that it makes me feel very safe. Fun starts in the afternoon. Venus is always fun with a good show, but is always crowded. Casanova is good and Ana, the black waitress is trustworthy. Also, they seem to treat the women well. Valentina provides great service, is very nice, not a drinker, and is smoking hot (I like them natural). She and her friend Sari (provided a good 3-way show. Prices for a short time typically run 50 mil in these places. The waiter in Atunes was pushy and dishonest. Piscina in nicer than many down there, at least the room are, and more expensive. Note: any of these waiters can hook you up with "party favors" if you're into that.

The love hotels in Chapinero are a good value. I used Las Palmas on Calle 62 but there must be a dozen in the area. $10-15 for 4-6 hours with clean sheets.I will have to go to Pussy house sometime-- I live 5 minutes from Santa Fe though- so it's a long way to Chapinero.

About Venus- If you are into boning a stripper on stage, that happens there! My friend did it.

[Bogota Visitor]

Hi everyone,

I am planning a two weeks visit to Bogota in spring. I have done my homework on safety (stay in Chapinero area and avoid the south, call for taxi never flag one on street, don't go out after dark, don't carry a lot of cash or bank card with me, order food for delivery instead of walking to restaurants.) and also done my home work on escorts and will call for outcall (I am certainly not going anywhere close to tolerance zone day or night) and the only one trusted by all is Solitasparati agency who has young good looking escorts with real pictures (if you know other ones please advise). That said I am only after looks (real pictures) not services as I am not seeking any sex or even anything sexual (maybe a striptease or private dances) but rather companionship which included dancing, hugging and kissing. I love Latin ladies with light skin to be my companions for short or long time and plan to call for two every day. I do have the following questions which only people on the ground can know the answers and appreciate the responses.

1 - Everywhere in Bogota (airbnb apartments or hotels) have doorman / security so my guests will have to report at the reception. Would this be a problem especially with so many younger ladies coming to my apartment everyday (I am seeking companionship of ladies in their 20's about half my age) the security will likely get suspicious and who know call the LE? How can I avoid this? Have you gents have had this problem in Bogota before? Do you have any specific suggestion who may not require registration or announcement of visitors (I know it is for my own safety but I don't feel comfortable with my visitors having to register).

2 - I am very sensitive if it is even remotely possible to not knowingly see an [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) (as why I choose Bogota over Medellin). Can I ask the ladies to show me their ID (date of birth must be before 1997 to make them legal age which I think is 19) or they would refuse? Yes I know Solitasparati is very reliable but still if I suspect the lady is under 19 I reserve the right to ask for age verification ID or they will be offended or refuse?

3- I have read that seeing escorts is legal in Colombia but only in tolerance zones (the dangerous zones that I will avoid) so does that mean it is illegal for me to invite escorts to my place which will be in safer areas like Chapinero which is outside of tolerance areas? I would like to do everything legally but if it is illegal and LE sees this what would be the penalty (just fine or jail?) I would like to have fun but don't wish to get myself into any trouble.

4 - I hear about strip bars in safe areas (like Lalo for example) where you see the lady first and then pick (as I said looks is the only factor not services as I am not seeking sex or anything sexual). Are these clubs safe to go? I know they are very expensive but safety is my concern. Are they any dance bars (like discos) where I can go safety and meet a none-pro?

In advance thank you very much for responses.

BV.

[YippieKayay]

I was browsing milerotic and found this website for a brothel in Bogota. I have to say it made me LOL a lot, especially the video section.

Curious if anyone has visited it:

http://www.adrianaysusgolosas.net/

[World Travel 69]

I put it on the Map, but the address they show on their map is not at the same address as this.

? Autosur #51 d-43 apto 201. 435'38.6"N 7408'04.2"W 10+ Chicas. Prices: BJ 35 k 10 min. , 55 k 10-15 min. , 70 k 30 min. , 120 k hour. Tel: 310-280-8067. Hours: 24 hours, except Wednesday and Sunday 9 am to 7 pm. http://www.adrianaysusgolosas.net/.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM


I was browsing milerotic and found this website for a brothel in Bogota. I have to say it made me LOL a lot, especially the video section.

Curious if anyone has visited it:

http://www.adrianaysusgolosas.net/

[Woodman09]

I was browsing milerotic and found this website for a brothel in Bogota. I have to say it made me LOL a lot, especially the video section.

Curious if anyone has visited it:

http://www.adrianaysusgolosas.net/That looks like they have mostly average girls. That area is way off the beaten track of areas discussed here. I know there is a Love Motel area South on Caracas- So there's more strolls there- probably casas too.

Bogota is a megaopolis.

For me there are so many nice Chicas in my neighborhood (I live 5 minutes walk from Santa Fe) It's hard for me to go anywhere else.

[Routard]

1. USA, Sweden and France are as far as I know the only countries in the world where LE might arrest a client for using prostitution service. No one cares in Colombia if you go with prostitutes as long as they are not minor of course. People care however for safety of foreign guests, so don't feel offended if security ask ID of the girl, it's for your own safety.

2. Girls will not be ofended if you ask for ID. People are used in Colombia to flash their cedula ten times a day.

3. Prostitution is officially illegal in Colombia, but largely tolerated and not only in zona de tolerencia. These laws go for the girls and of course the pimps. Clients are not concerned.

4. Night Clubs in Zona Norte are extremely safe regarding physical safety. Major risk is that the bill might end up high, especially with foreigners. Just don't forget to ask each time for price before ordering drinks or service from the girls.

[DrPorn]

It seems Tinder works in Medellin, CTG, etc after reading those threads; however, does anyone have experience with it in Bogota?

Also, I am thinking of staying at a hotel called Charlie's Place in Usaquen. Is that too far from "the action" of Chapinero and Sante Fe? I did not think it would be due to taxis and Uber being so cheap there.

[JjBee62]

Also, I am thinking of staying at a hotel called Charlie's Place in Usaquen. Is that too far from "the action" of Chapinero and Sante Fe? I did not think it would be due to taxis and Uber being so cheap there.Depends on when you're trying to get to Chapinero or Santa Fe. Traffic can be quite bad. There are quite a few hotel options between Zona Rosa and Chapinero at reasonable prices.

Another option is to find a place close to Autopiste Norte. The Transmilenio buses have dedicated lanes, so they aren't held up by traffic.

I don't know if there's a traffic app for Bogota. If there is, might be a good idea to try and figure out when is the best time to head south.

[Bogota Visitor]

1. USA, Sweden and France are as far as I know the only countries in the world where LE might arrest a client for using prostitution service. No one cares in Colombia if you go with prostitutes as long as they are not minor of course. People care however for safety of foreign guests, so don't feel offended if security ask ID of the girl, it's for your own safety.

2. Girls will not be ofended if you ask for ID. People are used in Colombia to flash their cedula ten times a day.

3. Prostitution is officially illegal in Colombia, but largely tolerated and not only in zona de tolerencia. These laws go for the girls and of course the pimps. Clients are not concerned.

4. Night Clubs in Zona Norte are extremely safe regarding physical safety. Major risk is that the bill might end up high, especially with foreigners. Just don't forget to ask each time for price before ordering drinks or service from the girls.Thank you very much for response and advice Routard. Yes there are many other countries too which have adopted the Swedish model in which it is illegal for clients to buy sex only and not for sex workers to sell! Thanks I will ask for age verification ID if I suspect the lady is under 19. Prostitution is actually legal in Colombia as long as it is within the tolerance zones. Glad to hear that night Clubs are safe in Zona North. What I really like is the companionship rather than sex so may be I get have companionship by just buying them drinks and would be a lot cheaper than $165000 for room and another $200000 to $400000 for sex. However I am concerned about having to walk back home (likely a few blocks away) late at night as most travel advisories are asking tourists not to go out after dark for safety reasons! Even catching a taxi on street is not safe. Not fun.

[ScottInBogota]

Depends on when you're trying to get to Chapinero or Santa Fe. Traffic can be quite bad. There are quite a few hotel options between Zona Rosa and Chapinero at reasonable prices.

Another option is to find a place close to Autopiste Norte. The Transmilenio buses have dedicated lanes, so they aren't held up by traffic.

I don't know if there's a traffic app for Bogota. If there is, might be a good idea to try and figure out when is the best time to head south.You can use Moovit here it very user friendly and can be configured to give you the required info in English.

[Hioctane]

Hi everyone,

I am planning a two weeks visit to Bogota in spring. I have done my homework on safety (stay in Chapinero area and avoid the south, call for taxi never flag one on street, don't go out after dark, don't carry a lot of cash or bank card with me, order food for delivery instead of walking to restaurants.) and also done my home work on escorts and will call for outcall (I am certainly not going anywhere close to tolerance zone day or night) and the only one trusted by all is Solitasparati agency who has young good looking escorts with real pictures (if you know other ones please advise). That said I am only after looks (real pictures) not services as I am not seeking any sex or even anything sexual (maybe a striptease or private dances) but rather companionship which included dancing, hugging and kissing. I love Latin ladies with light skin to be my companions for short or long time and plan to call for two every day. I do have the following questions which only people on the ground can know the answers and appreciate the responses..It sounds like you are new to prostitutes in general! Might I suggest as your first trip in Colombia to stay at the Mansion in Medellin and let some guys more experienced show you the ropes.

[Bogota Visitor]

It sounds like you are new to prostitutes in general! Might I suggest as your first trip in Colombia to stay at the Mansion in Medellin and let some guys more experienced show you the ropes.Thanks for the response and advice Hioctane. I will consider the Medellin mansion but I am really looking for high class escorts and for companionship only. But you are correct I haven't been with prostitutes.

[Routard]

Thank you very much for response and advice Routard. Yes there are many other countries too which have adopted the Swedish model in which it is illegal for clients to buy sex only and not for sex workers to sell! Thanks I will ask for age verification ID if I suspect the lady is under 19. Prostitution is actually legal in Colombia as long as it is within the tolerance zones. Glad to hear that night Clubs are safe in Zona North. What I really like is the companionship rather than sex so may be I get have companionship by just buying them drinks and would be a lot cheaper than $165000 for room and another $200000 to $400000 for sex. However I am concerned about having to walk back home (likely a few blocks away) late at night as most travel advisories are asking tourists not to go out after dark for safety reasons! Even catching a taxi on street is not safe. Not fun.Don't worry, these clubs have always taxis waiting in front. If not, justa ask the club to call one.

[Bogota Visitor]

Don't worry, these clubs have always taxis waiting in front. If not, justa ask the club to call one.Thank you very much again. Great to know. I was reading your great report earlier on everything in Bogota including strip bars and Lolas come on the top in terms of best looks though likely with no strip shows which is something I like so I may look for other bars with strip shows but great to know about taxis waiting though travel advisories are advising not to catch a taxi on street and always call because of what has happened in the past to tourists (and again thank you so much for your fantastic contributions to this forum).

[JjBee62]

Thank you very much again. Great to know. I was reading your great report earlier on everything in Bogota including strip bars and Lolas come on the top in terms of best looks though likely with no strip shows which is something I like so I may look for other bars with strip shows but great to know about taxis waiting though travel advisories are advising not to catch a taxi on street and always call because of what has happened in the past to tourists (and again thank you so much for your fantastic contributions to this forum).Many of the warnings about Bogota are outdated. There are risks, just like in any city with 10 million people, but it's not high risk, especially if you stay to the north.

For a strip club that I don't think has been reviewed, try Aroma why Tanga (silly ISG spell check strikes again. Replace "why" with the letter that is pronounced like why in English). They have a website and 2 locations.

[Bogota Visitor]

Many of the warnings about Bogota are outdated. There are risks, just like in any city with 10 million people, but it's not high risk, especially if you stay to the north.

For a strip club that I don't think has been reviewed, try Aroma why Tanga (silly ISG spell check strikes again. Replace "why" with the letter that is pronounced like why in English). They have a website and 2 locations.Thank you very much for the info JjBee62. Glad to hear all that. I found Aroma and Tanga in Bogota. It is on Calle 93 and Carrera 15 close to my apartment. It says it is a bare pop.

[BlackCats]

Just got into Bogota today. I'm staying in Chapinero. If anyone's around and wants to go out let me know.

[Raju1]

There was this massage place I used to go to. Full service. It had a room with mirrors and a plastic air mattress type of thing on the ground. Anyone remember which one it is?

[ShooBree]

Let's start out with the positive, since the negative is killing it, Bogota isn't as cold as its painted out to be. I could walk around in jeans and a shirt. The second, it didn't feel dangerous in my barrio, Calle 95 esquina Carrera 14. I took a walk to the pharmacy and walked around in the bar area close to Lalos.

First club to visit, Lalos: It felt / was dead and I managed to pay 105 000 for a vodka and Redbull.

Then to the Mansion, I think they called it. One or two blocks away from Lalos. More girls, better ambiance, but 50 000 for a straight vodka.

I notice that I'm getting fucked, in Spain the drinks would cost 30-45 for a vodka redbull in a high end club. In Spain the girls comes to the clients to start a convo, didn't happen in either of these places.

I also went to a third club in the same area more or less but existed quickly.

I have to ask, are there any places, big clubs like in Spain where you can speak to and get a feeling of the girls before choosing her?

[World Travel 69]

It looks like there are two of them:

Aroma & Tanga Tradicional

Carrera 15 # 95-48 Local 2. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: 257 2057. https://www.facebook.com/Aroma-y-Tanga-91527377781/ http://aromaytanga.com/Soy-el-dueno-de.html.

Aroma & Tanga Deluxe

Carrera 14 A # 83 - 63. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: 738 9005. https://www.facebook.com/Aroma-y-Tanga-91527377781/ http://aromaytanga.com/Soy-el-dueno-de.html.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.668438538035902%2C-74.05318770117259&z=18


Thank you very much for the info JjBee62. Glad to hear all that. I found Aroma and Tanga in Bogota. It is on Calle 93 and Carrera 15 close to my apartment. It says it is a bare pop.

[JjBee62]

I think they are just strip clubs. Probably overpriced drinks and low contact lap dances. I plan on checking on them, but won't be there until April.


It looks like there are two of them:

Aroma & Tanga Tradicional

Carrera 15 # 95-48 Local 2. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: 257 2057. https://www.facebook.com/Aroma-y-Tanga-91527377781/ http://aromaytanga.com/Soy-el-dueno-de.html.

Aroma & Tanga Deluxe

Carrera 14 A # 83 - 63. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: 738 9005. https://www.facebook.com/Aroma-y-Tanga-91527377781/ http://aromaytanga.com/Soy-el-dueno-de.html.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.668438538035902%2C-74.05318770117259&z=18

[ShooBree]

I took a cab to Chicas Milenio Calle 71 #14 A-24 around 4 pm, with a price of 40 mil peso for 30 minutes I did not expect the quality to be too high, but I was positively surprised this time, thanks to Routard. Around 8 girls came to greet me and I chose a girl called Angela. She had big, natural boobs and a very nice smile. The quality of the session wasn't memorable but good considering the price and for being a brothel where its not so easy to chat the girls up before the deed. CBJ and no kissing, except from her nibbling my ear a little. But she did have a pleasant attitude and there are good looking girls there.

I returned there later in the night but left quickly as the quality of the available chicas had deteriorated to sh*t.

[Bogota Visitor]

This is where I plan to stay for my spring visit (the one on 93 called Casa Dann Carleton) but I am not so sure now because of this. I am renting an apartment for 3 guests in that hotel but I am only one person in there so if they try to charge me extra (even a small amount) I wouldn't take it very kindly. And what do you mean clear my plans with reception? You mean tell him that I am bringing girls from escort agency to my room! To be honest even though it is for my own safety I don't like my guests having to register at reception. Also this hotel has 400 rooms likely about a thousand guests at any time so how on earth would they know that someone walking in the hotel and going towards the elevator is a registered guest or a visitor? Do they stop everyone every time we walk in? On Another note I read somewhere that Sofitel is girl friendly (whatever that means) but it doesn't have apartments (rooms only) at elevated prices. Anyone has recent experience with either? Please share if you do (this post is older).

Thanks a bunch.


I had no problem bringing in chicas when I was staying at the hotel. I stayed there for a total of 4 weeks on 3 separate trips. I now have an apartment. The clerk at the front desk speaks great english tall bald headed guy. Just clear your plans with him. They will charge you 4000 pesos for additional security per guest per night. They only want to see her cedula. No problems for me. Just get pre authorized before leaving for the night. You can also get a pass to go to the other dann carleton on 93? Street to use their spa, gym, sauna, massage. And swimming pool. , there is also a small restaurant at the pool, the chicas really loved this.

Mel

[JjBee62]

This is where I plan to stay for my spring visit (the one on 93 called Casa Dann Carleton) but I am not so sure now because of this. I am renting an apartment for 3 guests in that hotel but I am only one person in there so if they try to charge me extra (even a small amount) I wouldn't take it very kindly. And what do you mean clear my plans with reception? You mean tell him that I am bringing girls from escort agency to my room! To be honest even though it is for my own safety I don't like my guests having to register at reception. Also this hotel has 400 rooms likely about a thousand guests at any time so how on earth would they know that someone walking in the hotel and going towards the elevator is a registered guest or a visitor? Do they stop everyone every time we walk in? On Another note I read somewhere that Sofitel is girl friendly (whatever that means) but it doesn't have apartments (rooms only) at elevated prices. Anyone has recent experience with either? Please share if you do (this post is older).

Thanks a bunch.Bogota hotels are security conscious, especially in the northern tourist areas. They tend to pay attention to who comes and goes. Maybe they won't notice one prepago, but if you're planning on a steady stream of women, they will definitely notice. It doesn't matter if you pay for 6 rooms, claiming 2 people in each room, the hotel is still going to check Identification of anyone who comes to visit. I think (but am not going to look it up right now) it's the law.

What the other guy means is that you need to ask the hotel about their guest policy. You should do that before you pay for the reservation. You can call or send an email. Just ask "what is your hotel's policy regarding guests?

You will get one of these answers:

1. We do not allow additional guests. Only people registered for the room are allowed.

2. We only allow X number of guests per day. Guests must sign in with the front desk.

3. There is a charge for each guest (first one might be free). The charge is #X pesos. Guests must sign in with the front desk.

4. We have no guest restrictions, but guests must sign in with the front desk.

I doubt if you will get answer #4 from any Dann Carlton hotel. My guess is that you will be limited to 1 guest / day and there will be an additional charge.

The hotel has a responsibility to all their guests (and to the stockholders). Those guests include families with children and many others who are morally opposed to staying in a hotel full of prostitutes. While your prepagos might be professionally dressed, if the hotel doesn't require them to check in, soon they will get women showing up who dress like prostitutes. Which causes the hotel problems.

You have options. You can get a room down in Chapinero and then use the love Motels to entertain your escorts. You can get a room for 3 or 4 hours for less than $10 US.

You can find an Airbnb host that doesn't worry about guests (they still may need to show ID to security).

You can find a cheap hotel in Santa Fe, where they expect (and can probably recommend) escorts to visit frequently.

[Bogota Visitor]

Bogota hotels are security conscious, especially in the northern tourist areas. They tend to pay attention to who comes and goes. Maybe they won't notice one prepago, but if you're planning on a steady stream of women, they will definitely notice. It doesn't matter if you pay for 6 rooms, claiming 2 people in each room, the hotel is still going to check Identification of anyone who comes to visit. I think (but am not going to look it up right now) it's the law.

What the other guy means is that you need to ask the hotel about their guest policy. You should do that before you pay for the reservation. You can call or send an email. Just ask "what is your hotel's policy regarding guests?

You will get one of these answers:.Thank you very much for extensive response JjBee62. Appreciate your time and info. Yes this is all surprise to me as where I live visitors just walk to elevator and nobody questions them but I have been only to large hotels where there are so many people which it is impossible to tell who is guest and who is visiting. But I have to accept Colombia is another country and they have their own strange rules. BTW just to clarify I have no intention to see prostitutes just high class escorts and I am seeking companionship only (so looks rather than services is my goal). For that I only have to stay in classy hotels otherwise they likely won't come to some cheap love motel in unsafe downtown area, I guess but I am not myself going anywhere near those areas or those motels for my own safety after what I have read about Bogota. Even for Airbnb they have to check in with the security and have to be announced and if I receive two visitors a day I am sure the security may wonder after a few days. Also I am noting that seeing escorts (sex or not) is only legal in tolerance zones (the area that I won't go near) not in Chapinero though I don't know how serious it is to be outside that area is police is called. I will take your advice and will contact hotels to see what their policies on guests are. Thanks again.

[AddictedToWomen]

Salome Calle 64 # 13-88. Open daily except Sunday from 1 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/20 min, 50 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.

Back in Bogota for a bit and thought I'd check out what 60 k /60 minutes would buy me. Only 2 girls on offer. Actually 70 k /60 minutes plus 10 k "propina voluntario". What a filthy fucking shit hole. Kissing / DATY extra. No taking her shoes off, no fingering. She couldn't put on a condom to save her fucking life and kept stopping evry couple of minutes to check it was still on ok. No lube (and as dry as the Sahara), no cleanups. Actually quite friendly before and after but totally uninterested during. Just say no.

[JjBee62]

Thank you very much for extensive response JjBee62. Appreciate your time and info. Yes this is all surprise to me as where I live visitors just walk to elevator and nobody questions them but I have been only to large hotels where there are so many people which it is impossible to tell who is guest and who is visiting. But I have to accept Colombia is another country and they have their own strange rules. BTW just to clarify I have no intention to see prostitutes just high class escorts and I am seeking companionship only (so looks rather than services is my goal). For that I only have to stay in classy hotels otherwise they likely won't come to some cheap love motel in unsafe downtown area, I guess but I am not myself going anywhere near those areas or those motels for my own safety after what I have read about Bogota. Even for Airbnb they have to check in with the security and have to be announced and if I receive two visitors a day I am sure the security may wonder after a few days. Also I am noting that seeing escorts (sex or not) is only legal in tolerance zones (the area that I won't go near) not in Chapinero though I don't know how serious it is to be outside that area is police is called. I will take your advice and will contact hotels to see what their policies on guests are. Thanks again.The high class escorts are prostitutes, same as all the other escorts. Whether or not you personally have sex with them doesn't matter. In Colombia they are called Prepagos, which means pre-paid. Whether you pay 180,000 pesos and fuck every hole, or pay 1,500,000 and just hug the woman while she reads you a fairy tale, her job classification is Prostitute.

Sex with prostitutes is effectively legal anywhere in Colombia. Because no police officer so going to waste time trying to catch some tourist getting a BJ.

They only reason you might get in trouble is if you do something really stupid:

Have sex with an obvious [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) person.

Beat up a prostitute (excuse me, high class escort).

Refuse to pay your high class escort.

Try to fuck a high class escort in public.

[Bogota Visitor]

That is strange JjBee62 as I thought of escorts differently. I thought escorts (usually educated and classy attractive ladies and who are not working in a brothel or street and only visiting selective gents) are paid for their time and companionship and whatever else that may or may not happen like sex or the one you mentioned is entirely their choice and between consenting adults if they like you whereas prostitutes will have to provide a series of pre-defined or pre-agreed services including sex for the pay that they receive. It shows how little I know about this new hobby and have a lot to learn!

The chances of me engaging in any of those so called very stupid activities (I call it sickening activities only by a sicko) is absolutely zero unless the agency sends me someone under the advertised age which even that will not happen as I will demand age verification ID if I even suspect it. I read that in Colombia some police (I am sure a small minority) are corrupt and they charge you with something stupid (like a simple traffic violation for example especially if they see a tourist) so that they extract large sums of money from the tourists or the guy at reception may try to blackmail and do same but I am sure these are very rare.

[ShooBree]

Around 2 pm I took a cab to Palmeras Real*Carrera 15 # 66-17, I saw a black door which I think was the entrance but nobody was there and I didn't knock. Instead I let one of the guys on the street take me to another place across the street to a green house facing another red casa on cra. 16 Calle 66-22. Maybe 6 girls, none of them interested me. Another guy took me to a White House on cra. 16 #65-41. There I saw two or three girls that I liked, I chose Paula, 25 mil for 20 minutes, just like yesterday it was CBJ and no kissing, she was even more beautiful but the service was a little colder than yesterday with Angela.

[Bogota Visitor]

Just returned from a week in Bogota and didn't have a problem at either place I stayed.

Chica Friendly hotels-.

I stayed first at Lloyds apartasuites Parque 93- was only about $65 and was a small apartment with actual separate bedroom so not a studio. Small kitchen but more than adequate for any type of cooking. Bathroom decent as well, free WiFi. Zero issues with bringing girls in. The desk would call me and say "senor, we have miss Alejandra here to see you". And then I would say send her up. Hotel is located near Parque 93 which has a lot of clubs and restaurants and is a good location IMO.Thank you very much Soldier for this very useful post. A great many tourists are looking for a specific info like this as I have noticed that a great many have asked for girl friendly hotels but very few responses. Your post is a year and a half old and I hope that Lloyds has remained so since then. Appreciate any updates on Lloyds by anyone with a recent visit.

[Routard]

That is strange JjBee62 as I thought of escorts differently. I thought escorts (usually educated and classy attractive ladies and who are not working in a brothel or street and only visiting selective gents) are paid for their time and companionship and whatever else that may or may not happen.I love your defintion of escort LOL! I guess she will see you as a real strange dude if you don't have sex with her! I confirm that in Bogota the very same girl can do escort, work in a massage parlor, in a high end club, in a low class brothel or in the street, and sometimes even in the very same day! She just tries a bit of everything and goes on with the option where she can earn most money. And it's not necessarely in a high end club that she might earn most.

Regarding the cops, don't worry. Tourists are king in Colombia, police will never try to bother them. And in 10 years in Colombia I have never ever heard that someone got trouble with police for fucking a prostitute. Except of course if you do very stupid things such as going with a minor, not paying or beating a prostitute.

[Cm6363]

Was hoping someone could help me find an Orthopedist in Bogota that speaks reasonable English. I injured my hip about three weeks ago and it could be related to back issues. I don't have medical coverage, so I might as well have it treated, or at least looked at here. If you have a general practitioner in Bogota that speaks reasonable English, I could start there as I need an EKG too.

I have had a great experience here in the past with dental work, so I hope to find similar quality medical care.

Thanks!

[Bogota Visitor]

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[Hioctane]

Bogota hotels are security conscious, especially in the northern tourist areas. They tend to pay attention to who comes and goes. Maybe they won't notice one prepago, but if you're planning on a steady stream of women, they will definitely notice. It doesn't matter if you pay for 6 rooms, claiming 2 people in each room, the hotel is still going to check Identification of anyone who comes to visit. I think (but am not going to look it up right now) it's the law.

What the other guy means is that you need to ask the hotel about their guest policy. You should do that before you pay for the reservation. You can call or send an email. Just ask "what is your hotel's policy regarding guests?

You will get one of these answers:

1. We do not allow additional guests. Only people registered for the room are allowed.

2. We only allow X number of guests per day. Guests must sign in with the front desk.

3. There is a charge for each guest (first one might be free). The charge is #X pesos. Guests must sign in with the front desk..I always find a cheap apartment on airbnb near Santa Fe. Around $25. Nice apartments and no BS hassles with hotels.

[Hioctane]

Let's start out with the positive, since the negative is killing it, Bogota isn't as cold as its painted out to be. I could walk around in jeans and a shirt. The second, it didn't feel dangerous in my barrio, Calle 95 esquina Carrera 14. I took a walk to the pharmacy and walked around in the bar area close to Lalos.

First club to visit, Lalos: It felt / was dead and I managed to pay 105 000 for a vodka and Redbull.

Then to the Mansion, I think they called it. One or two blocks away from Lalos. More girls, better ambiance, but 50 000 for a straight vodka.

I notice that I'm getting fucked, in Spain the drinks would cost 30-45 for a vodka redbull in a high end club. In Spain the girls comes to the clients to start a convo, didn't happen in either of these places.

I also went to a third club in the same area more or less but existed quickly.

I have to ask, are there any places, big clubs like in Spain where you can speak to and get a feeling of the girls before choosing her?Do you speak Spanish? That is like $34 for a redbull vodka. I have never paid that much anywhere in Colombia. Ever!

Go to Atunes in Santa Fe. You will get a drink for around 5 k! The girls mill around and ST is around 60-70 k.

[JjBee62]

Do you speak Spanish? That is like $34 for a redbull vodka. I have never paid that much anywhere in Colombia. Ever!

Go to Atunes in Santa Fe. You will get a drink for around 5 k! The girls mill around and ST is around 60-70 k.There may have been some confusion. I'm guessing he bought the bottle of vodka.

[KillaCam11]

Had my eye on Tatiana from La Celestina. Agreed to 5 hours for 700 k, gave my hotel info, she was only 1.5 hours late, it was around 4 pm traffic was probably bad. Get a call from front desk, told them to send her up. She arrives, we talk for a bit as I am suspicious this is not the girl from the pictures since her boobs were a lot smaller. Then I finally show her the picture of Tatiana and she says that is Lina and there must be a mistake on the website. I talk to the guy at the agency he confirms this as well. I highly doubt it was a mistake as Tatiana is advertised as Tatiana on numerous sites including their Twitter. She probably wasn't available and they just sent Lina in her place. So what the hell Lina is a hot paisa tell her to stay, face 9 body 9 unless your a boobs man but what an ass, attitude 10. She was not GFE even at the price, didn't matter her looks and personality made up for everything. She was very chill, got her beer from the bar and went to town. Ate her pussy and tongue punched that bum hole, was delicious. She was down for all positions, she says she loves anal but it was extra, I passed on that. All in all I would repeat despite the price and lack GFE.

Girl I ended up seeing- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-gabriela.

Girl I wanted to see- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-tatiana.

[TrueScotsMan]

Well I arrive early Tuesday, a long ass 11 hour plus flight from London. I'll be in Bogota 1 week then to Medellin, so I'm looking for any recommendations On a nice chica to be my first. Yes a massage is probably good to help my jet lag. Should I just take a chance with a call in escort? Or does anyone have a old or new! Good girl they have come across on their hunting?

[TrueScotsMan]

Had my eye on Tatiana from La Celestina. Agreed to 5 hours for 700 k, gave my hotel info, she was only 1.5 hours late, it was around 4 pm traffic was probably bad. Get a call from front desk, told them to send her up. She arrives, we talk for a bit as I am suspicious this is not the girl from the pictures since her boobs were a lot smaller. Then I finally show her the picture of Tatiana and she says that is Lina and there must be a mistake on the website. I talk to the guy at the agency he confirms this as well. I highly doubt it was a mistake as Tatiana is advertised as Tatiana on numerous sites including their Twitter. She probably wasn't available and they just sent Lina in her place. So what the hell Lina is a hot paisa tell her to stay, face 9 body 9 unless your a boobs man but what an ass, attitude 10. She was not GFE even at the price, didn't matter her looks and personality made up for everything. She was very chill, got her beer from the bar and went to town. Ate her pussy and tongue punched that bum hole, was delicious. She was down for all positions, she says she loves anal but it was extra, I passed on that. All in all I would repeat despite the price and lack GFE.

Girl I ended up seeing- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-gabriela.

Girl I wanted to see- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-tatiana.Yes I agree your first choice was better, but it ended well. I was going to use this agency so I'm glad of the report.

[JjBee62]

Yes I agree your first choice was better, but it ended well. I was going to use this agency so I'm glad of the report.

I expect this is common for this and most prepago agencies. You make a request and they send someone. Maybe the one you requested has another appointment, or has the flu, or just doesn't feel like working. Instead of taking the risk you will pick another agency if your choice isn't available, they send someone else. Rather than admit it, they just claim a mistake.

Let's face it, once she's in your room, the chances of you sending her away are much less.

[Bogota Visitor]

I expect this is common for this and most prepago agencies. You make a request and they send someone. Maybe the one you requested has another appointment, or has the flu, or just doesn't feel like working. Instead of taking the risk you will pick another agency if your choice isn't available, they send someone else. Rather than admit it, they just claim a mistake.

Let's face it, once she's in your room, the chances of you sending her away are much less.LaCelestina is the largest agency in Bogota and have relatively good looking ladies too so it is hard to eliminate them though I agree it is not cool that they send another girl whoever is available. May be the alternative is to tell them when contacting them that unless the very same lady in pictures is send I will refuse the lady with no payment. That way they think twice before doing the bait and switch. The only agency reviewed to always send really ladies in pictures in Solitasparati but unfortunately they have few English speaking and for someone like me who will be there for companionship and don't speak a word of Spanish then English speaking ladies is essential so I can't put aside this large agency. If you know of other agencies who will never do bait and switch please share.

[Bogota Visitor]

Had my eye on Tatiana from La Celestina. Agreed to 5 hours for 700 k, gave my hotel info, she was only 1.5 hours late, it was around 4 pm traffic was probably bad. Get a call from front desk, told them to send her up. She arrives, we talk for a bit as I am suspicious this is not the girl from the pictures since her boobs were a lot smaller. Then I finally show her the picture of Tatiana and she says that is Lina and there must be a mistake on the website. I talk to the guy at the agency he confirms this as well. I highly doubt it was a mistake as Tatiana is advertised as Tatiana on numerous sites including their Twitter. She probably wasn't available and they just sent Lina in her place. So what the hell Lina is a hot paisa tell her to stay, face 9 body 9 unless your a boobs man but what an ass, attitude 10. She was not GFE even at the price, didn't matter her looks and personality made up for everything. She was very chill, got her beer from the bar and went to town. Ate her pussy and tongue punched that bum hole, was delicious. She was down for all positions, she says she loves anal but it was extra, I passed on that. All in all I would repeat despite the price and lack GFE.

Girl I ended up seeing- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-gabriela.

Girl I wanted to see- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-tatiana.I don't know the donation you made but Tatiana was for 290 K and Lina for 255 K so if you made a Tatiana donation to Lina then this could be another reason for switch though as Jjbee mentioned unavailability of Tatiana is the more likely reason but they must not switch. If it was me I would have told them when I contacted them that if another lady is send I would refuse to see her and will also refuse to pay for her taxi in order to deter them from bait and switch. It is not cool. BTW, did the operator speak English when you called? Did the lady spoke English? Thanks.

[JjBee62]

LaCelestina is the largest agency in Bogota and have relatively good looking ladies too so it is hard to eliminate them though I agree it is not cool that they send another girl whoever is available. May be the alternative is to tell them when contacting them that unless the very same lady in pictures is send I will refuse the lady with no payment. That way they think twice before doing the bait and switch. The only agency reviewed to always send really ladies in pictures in Solitasparati but unfortunately they have few English speaking and for someone like me who will be there for companionship and don't speak a word of Spanish then English speaking ladies is essential so I can't put aside this large agency. If you know of other agencies who will never do bait and switch please share.Good luck finding an agency that never does bait and switch. If you find them, ask if you can ride their unicorn.

Also good luck finding an escort who speaks English well enough to carry on a long conversation. While they do exist, very few are going to be fluent in English, unless you stay in the 1 million Peso and up per hour range.

First the bait and switch. Unless the escort agency is just one independent woman, bait and switch is going to happen. Every escort is not going to be available every time they are requested. Most people who are calling for an escort aren't going to wait 2 days for an appointment. So the person who does the bookings is going to accept your appointment and send someone. And you're going to end up paying them.

Your plan to tell them you won't pay just means they will not send anyone. Why should they waste their time with you? Why deal with the hassle because the website picture is 2 years old and you don't believe it's the same girl? Believe it or not, they have other customers who are a lot easier to deal with.

If they do send someone and you refuse to pay, even for the transportation, expect problems. Problem number 1, you just ended any chance of ever getting an escort from that agency (and often one person runs several different agencies). Problem number 2, you don't speak the language, you're a foreigner and you just refused to pay a debt you agreed to pay. If she makes a scene, guess whose side the Spanish speaking police officer is going to take? Guess what the hotel is going to think about a guest who disturbs other guests because he is hiring prostitutes and refusing to pay them?

Why would you go to Colombia to hire escorts that you don't want to have sex with, when you don't speak the language? That makes less sense than going to a vegetarian restaurant, demanding they cook you a steak and then just stare at the food without eating it.

Fluent English speakers are not common in Colombia. While many people speak some English, they aren't able to have a conversation. What you say you want, extended companionship without any sex, is going to require conversation. It requires conversation because the escort expects to show up, spend a few minutes talking and then have sex, followed by a little more talk, cleanup, get dressed, get paid and say chao. Most English speaking escorts know exactly enough English for greetings, a few compliments, discussing prices and saying goodbye.

You really need to rethink your plan. Go to Toronto. You'll spend about the same amount, you'll have no trouble finding companionship only escorts, there will be no language barrier, you don't have to worry about crime and the police won't bother you. Plus, if you're going in April, the weather will be the same or better than in Bogota.

[Bogota Visitor]

Good luck finding an agency that never does bait and switch. If you find them, ask if you can ride their unicorn.

Also good luck finding an escort who speaks English well enough to carry on a long conversation. While they do exist, very few are going to be fluent in English, unless you stay in the 1 million Peso and up per hour range.

First the bait and switch. Unless the escort agency is just one independent woman, bait and switch is going to happen. Every escort is not going to be available every time they are requested. Most people who are calling for an escort aren't going to wait 2 days for an appointment. So the person who does the bookings is going to accept your appointment and send someone. And you're going to end up paying them.

Your plan to tell them you won't pay just means they will not send anyone. Why should they waste their time with you? Why deal with the hassle because the website picture is 2 years old and you don't believe it's the same girl? Believe it or not, they have other customers who are a lot easier to deal with.

If they do send someone and you refuse to pay, even for the transportation, expect problems. Problem number 1, you just ended any chance of ever getting an escort from that agency (and often one person runs several different agencies). Problem number 2, you don't speak the language, you're a foreigner and you just refused to pay a debt you agreed to pay. If she makes a scene, guess whose side the Spanish speaking police officer is going to take? Guess what the hotel is going to think about a guest who disturbs other guests because he is hiring prostitutes and refusing to pay them?

Why would you go to Colombia to hire escorts that you don't want to have sex with, when you don't speak the language? That makes less sense than going to a vegetarian restaurant, demanding they cook you a steak and then just stare at the food without eating it.

Fluent English speakers are not common in Colombia. While many people speak some English, they aren't able to have a conversation. What you say you want, extended companionship without any sex, is going to require conversation. It requires conversation because the escort expects to show up, spend a few minutes talking and then have sex, followed by a little more talk, cleanup, get dressed, get paid and say chao. Most English speaking escorts know exactly enough English for greetings, a few compliments, discussing prices and saying goodbye.

You really need to rethink your plan. Go to Toronto. You'll spend about the same amount, you'll have no trouble finding companionship only escorts, there will be no language barrier, you don't have to worry about crime and the police won't bother you. Plus, if you're going in April, the weather will be the same or better than in Bogota.Other site have consistency reviewed solitasparati as the agency who will send ladies in pictures and they alone have plenty of beautiful ladies though only 6 of them speak English.

So you are saying bait and switch is something acceptable in Colombia and happens every time? If clients refuse be & S then it won't happen so often.

When I call I will tell them exactly who I want. I tell them if she is not available then I go for the second choice and third and fourth and. Option until I reach the one who is available. I will be there two weeks and I have selected about 50 ladies which I plan to see less than half of them. If after giving them a long list and still they send me another lady this would be a deliberate attempt by them to deceive (and I also will tell them that after all these options if they send me another lady I won't pay anything in writing). They (the agency) will also receive bad reviews on all Colombia related review boards if in spite of all these they still carry out bait and switch.

As why I have chosen Colombia even though I don't want sex or sexual activities (I do wish her companionship and a dance and hugs and kisses but I am not ready for pay for sex. Call me a moron if you wish) because I have met a few Colombian ladies in Montreal (one married colleague and the rest in Montreal strip bars) and they are all beautiful and friendly. I can only spend a little time with them while in strip bar. I really love Colombian girls and want their companionship for many hours.

Yes I hope that I can find those who can carry out at least some broken conversation in English but your post is not encouraging I try to learn some Spanish then.

I don't know any Colombian lady or ladies in Toronto so what would be the purpose of going to Toronto! Also I believe in North America it is illegal to invite strippers home for companionship (even if no sex or any sexual things happen it is likely still illegal but I am not sure) and for sure I am not going to break the law of the land. Out of question.

[JjBee62]

Other site have consistency reviewed solitasparati as the agency who will send ladies in pictures and they alone have plenty of beautiful ladies though only 6 of them speak English.

So you are saying bait and switch is something acceptable in Colombia and happens every time? If clients refuse be & S then it won't happen so often.

When I call I will tell them exactly who I want. I tell them if she is not available then I go for the second choice and third and fourth and. Option until I reach the one who is available. I will be there two weeks and I have selected about 50 ladies which I plan to see less than half of them. If after giving them a long list and still they send me another lady this would be a deliberate attempt by them to deceive (and I also will tell them that after all these options if they send me another lady I won't pay anything in writing). They (the agency) will also receive bad reviews on all Colombia related review boards if in spite of all these they still carry out bait and switch.

As why I have chosen Colombia even though I don't want sex or sexual activities (I do wish her companionship and a dance and hugs and kisses but I am not ready for pay for sex. Call me a moron if you wish) because I have met a few Colombian ladies in Montreal (one married colleague and the rest in Montreal strip bars) and they are all beautiful and friendly. I can only spend a little time with them while in strip bar. I really love Colombian girls and want their companionship for many hours.

Yes I hope that I can find those who can carry out at least some broken conversation in English but your post is not encouraging I try to learn some Spanish then.

I don't know any Colombian lady or ladies in Toronto so what would be the purpose of going to Toronto! Also I believe in North America it is illegal to invite strippers home for companionship (even if no sex or any sexual things happen it is likely still illegal but I am not sure) and for sure I am not going to break the law of the land. Out of question.Solitasparati probably fulfills 300 appointments every week. How many reviews have you seen? 5? 10? 50? I'm sure they, along with other agencies, try to satisfy their customer's requests. But they also know the customer will accept whoever shows up. It's not always an attempt to deceive the customer, it's just business.

Are you under the impression that Colombian escort agencies are struggling? Desperate to please every customer? Bogota is a city of more than 10 million people. It is one of the top financial and business locations in South America. The escort agencies have plenty of customers.

And how many of those customers are going to read your bad reviews? Do you think the Bogatanos who see the same escort every 2 weeks are going to drop her, because you flew 4000 miles to see someone else? The foreign businessmen who call for an escort each time they hit town are going to change because you complain about a woman who you didn't even let in your room?

Maybe making threats to businesses is the way things are done in Montreal. I don't see that going over well in Bogota, but go right ahead and try. Don't pay any attention to any advice given to you. Ignore all the experiences of the people on the board. You clearly know all the answers.

After you, in English, demand a Spanish speaker meet all your requirements or face your bad reviews and refusal to pay, I'm certain everything will work out just like you want.

I almost want to schedule my stay in the same hotel, just for the entertainment value.

[JjBee62]

You remind me of a guy who wanted to marry the first stripper to give him a lap dance. I'm not trying to be insulting, but you are looking in the wrong place for the wrong thing.

Do yourself a favor and forget your plan. It won't work.

Go to Colombian Cupid and Latin American Cupid and Seeking Arrangements. Put up ads with some good pictures, pay the subscription and start communicating with the ones you like. You can find women who are interested in you, women who share your interests. You can find women who want to spend time with you, instead of women who just want you to pay them.

When you call an escort, you get someone who is paid to have sex. Having sex is what she's good at. Would you go to a strip club and pay a dancer to play the piano? Chances are she doesn't know how and doesn't want to. You can pay an escort for a strip tease, but paying her isn't going to create any chemistry, it isn't going to make her want to chat in a language she doesn't know well. It isn't going to make her like you.

You can spend time getting to know the women, finding out how well they handle English and learning some Spanish. Then you will have real experiences with Colombian women instead of sitting in a hotel room with a beautiful woman who can't wait to get her money and get away from you.

[Bogota Visitor]

Solitasparati probably fulfills 300 appointments every week. How many reviews have you seen? 5? 10? 50? I'm sure they, along with other agencies, try to satisfy their customer's requests. But they also know the customer will accept whoever shows up. It's not always an attempt to deceive the customer, it's just business.

Are you under the impression that Colombian escort agencies are struggling? Desperate to please every customer? Bogota is a city of more than 10 million people. It is one of the top financial and business locations in South America. The escort agencies have plenty of customers.

And how many of those customers are going to read your bad reviews? Do you think the Bogatanos who see the same escort every 2 weeks are going to drop her, because you flew 4000 miles to see someone else? The foreign businessmen who call for an escort each time they hit town are going to change because you complain about a woman who you didn't even let in your room?

Maybe making threats to businesses is the way things are done in Montreal. I don't see that going over well in Bogota, but go right ahead and try. Don't pay any attention to any advice given to you. Ignore all the experiences of the people on the board. You clearly know all the answers.

After you, in English, demand a Spanish speaker meet all your requirements or face your bad reviews and refusal to pay, I'm certain everything will work out just like you want.

I almost want to schedule my stay in the same hotel, just for the entertainment value.The point I was making that clearly you didn't get was that (regardless of how many reviews I have seen for solitasparati) I haven't seen even one review indicating Bait and Switch unlike other agencies.

I didn't make threats. Review board like this are not for threats and retaliations to businesses if you think that or that I made threats you are wrong. Review boards like this are for sharing the good news about good escorts or agencies so that others know and enjoy the good time as well and as well as sharing the bad things about bad escorts / agencies so that they avoid and not to pay the same price you. That is wasting their time and money. It is a contribution rather than threats and I won't tell this to agency beforehand.

So somehow it is the agency (that you say all do bait and switch) and somehow in your post you made me the bad guy! Incredible! Bait and Switch is a bad practice and should not be encouraged or accepted as a norm (and I am not talking about escorts only but anything worse is be & S of an apartment not in pictures and that happens too and should be discouraged and others warned).

As for the other post thanks for advice but LOL I am coming for a two weeks trip and fun not to get married long distance on net who I don't know and spend the rest of my life with and if she divorces me and goes back home then take half my wealth (half the very little that I have).

In Colombia it appears escorts are very inexpensive and based on what I have seen I can fulfill my fantasy for 6 hours with an attractive lady who is likely a university student and classy and clean as good as the ones you meet in dance bars (likely one or two per day) for about $200-$300 or 500,000-900,000 COP to spend time may be dance and dinner and maybe hugs and kisses, without any commitments or risks (and to me at least good time does not have to involve sex or sexual so people are different). It would cost me more than 5 times that in Toronto not to mention that it is likely illegal too in North America and I have a very low risk tolerance level (I never break the law of the land). In the past I believe the name escort used to be non-sexual and she was going out with the guy to dance bars and official engagements or parties as girlfriends or even posed as wives and that is why they were called escorts (to escort someone out) later the sexual component was added but the name remained.

Finally I know you mean well and your intention is to help out so I thank you very much for your responses and advice remembering people are different with different likes and dislikes and risk tolerance levels.

[Hioctane]

In Colombia it appears escorts are very inexpensive and based on what I have seen I can fulfill my fantasy for 6 hours with an attractive lady who is likely a university student and classy and clean as good as the ones you meet in dance bars (likely one or two per day) for about $200-$300 or 500,000-900,000 COP to spend time may be dance and dinner and maybe hugs and kisses, without any commitments or risks (and to me at least good time does not have to involve sex or sexual so people are different). It would cost me more than 5 times that in Toronto not to mention that it is likely illegal too in North America and I have a very low risk tolerance level (I never break the law of the land). In the past I believe the name escort used to be non-sexual and she was going out with the guy to dance bars and official engagements or parties as girlfriends or even posed as wives and that is why they were called escorts (to escort someone out) later the sexual component was added but the name remained.If you think escort girls are more classy or clean, you are in for a rude awakening. They are all barrio girls with a dress and makeup on! This gives them the right to charge 2-3 x the going rate in Colombia? SMH.

[Bogota Visitor]

If you think escort girls are more classy or clean, you are in for a rude awakening. They are all barrio girls with a dress and makeup on! This gives them the right to charge 2-3 x the going rate in Colombia? SMH.Well obviously you are on the ground with a thousand posts and more qualified to state the real situation than me who has never been to Colombia. That said some agencies declare them as university students (though that may be marketing I don't know) and those at solitasparati and few others have very reasonable rates. If what you say is true then they likely carry diseases so I am glad that I am seeking only companionship. That said many reviews I have read about Colombian escorts indicate many clients engaging in DATY and BJ (oral without condoms) with the escorts! In North America I have met many nude dancers in strip bars who dance in order to pay for their college / university and I know this as a fact as I have dated a few. I thought it may be a similar situation in Colombia as per description on their site describing their ladies as university students.

[Routard]

Well obviously you are on the ground with a thousand posts and more qualified to state the real situation than me who has never been to Colombia. That said some agencies declare them as university students (though that may be marketing I don't know) and those at solitasparati and few others have very reasonable rates. If what you say is true then they likely carry diseases so I am glad that I am seeking only companionship. That said many reviews I have read about Colombian escorts indicate many clients engaging in DATY and BJ (oral without condoms) with the escorts! In North America I have met many nude dancers in strip bars who dance in order to pay for their college / university and I know this as a fact as I have dated a few. I thought it may be a similar situation in Colombia as per description on their site describing their ladies as university students.I have met stunning escorts that gave great sex through escort sites. However, I could never make up a special relationship with them, as it is just what it is: one hour of sex in a hotelrooom. I would rather suggest you to go tho this club: Juan Pablo Zhivago. This club has a special atmosphere, very different from the other northern clubs with pushy waiters and loud music. Juan Pablo is more like a classy bar where you can talk to any lady and find out the one with mutual chemistry. Most don't speak english however, I hope you speak some kind of spanish. Most are indeed full time prostitutes, but if you have a close look to each of them, you might spot the true semi-pro that just tries to pay her studies. Try to spot the shy one, sitting alone, discrete, that doesn't make eye contact, no fake boobs, few make-up, normally dressed. It happenend often to me in this club. And if you take her out of the club, have a drink with her in Parque 93. You will have the companionship you are looking for ending up in genuine GFE at the end of the night. Take her phone, and next day make an appointment outside the club and treat her like a GF. I'm pretty sure you will get what you came to look for in Bogota.

[AddictedToWomen]

If you think escort girls are more classy or clean, you are in for a rude awakening. They are all barrio girls with a dress and makeup on! This gives them the right to charge 2-3 x the going rate in Colombia? SMH.+1.

I've seen club girls working the street.

[TrueScotsMan]

I have met stunning escorts that gave great sex through escort sites. However, I could never make up a special relationship with them, as it is just what it is: one hour of sex in a hotelrooom. I would rather suggest you to go tho this club: Juan Pablo Zhivago. This club has a special atmosphere, very different from the other northern clubs with pushy waiters and loud music. Juan Pablo is more like a classy bar where you can talk to any lady and find out the one with mutual chemistry. Most don't speak english however, I hope you speak some kind of spanish. Most are indeed full time prostitutes, but if you have a close look to each of them, you might spot the true semi-pro that just tries to pay her studies. Try to spot the shy one, sitting alone, discrete, that doesn't make eye contact, no fake boobs, few make-up, normally dressed. It happenend often to me in this club. And if you take her out of the club, have a drink with her in Parque 93. You will have the companionship you are looking for ending up in genuine GFE at the end of the night. Take her phone, and next day make an appointment outside the club and treat her like a GF. I'm pretty sure you will get what you came to look for in Bogota.Priceless advice, I just land and I'm jet lag after 11 flight but I can't wait. I to might check out this bar. I'm staying inVvirrey.

[Parkinsons]

...to spend time may be dance and dinner and maybe hugs and kisses, without any commitments or risks (and to me at least good time does not have to involve sex or sexual so people are different). I have a very low risk tolerance level.This is what you're looking for:

https://www.meetup.com/Idiomarte/

From what you said, you just want to be in the company of good looking Colombian women.

Ambitious career-minded girls will want to speak English with you. It's possible that you encounter someone who'll escort, I mean, accompany you to enjoy the city.

The S in ISG stands for sex. We're here to discuss finding local women for oral sex, vaginal sex, anal sex, sex in a brothel, sex in a hotel. You're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong place. Not being facetious, just honest. Hope you have a good trip.

[Combo]

This is what you're looking for:

https://www.meetup.com/Idiomarte/

From what you said, you just want to be in the company of good looking Colombian women.

Ambitious career-minded girls will want to speak English with you. It's possible that you encounter someone who'll escort, I mean, accompany you to enjoy the city.

The S in ISG stands for sex. We're here to discuss finding local women for oral sex, vaginal sex, anal sex, sex in a brothel, sex in a hotel. You're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong place. Not being facetious, just honest. Hope you have a good trip.I also don't understand targeting an escort service for a girl to keep you company. That would be about the last place I would look. The reason those sites say "university girls" or whatever is so guys think they're getting a girl that's not a run-of-the-mill prepago. Sure, some might be students. But not at a higher rate than a prepago you meet in any other venue. It's pure marketing.

Things like meetup.com seem like a much better strategy. Heck, you might meet a girl that won't bill you per hour! Or the club Routard referenced.

[JjBee62]

I also don't understand targeting an escort service for a girl to keep you company. That would be about the last place I would look. The reason those sites say "university girls" or whatever is so guys think they're getting a girl that's not a run-of-the-mill prepago. Sure, some might be students. But not at a higher rate than a prepago you meet in any other venue. It's pure marketing.

Things like meetup.com seem like a much better strategy. Heck, you might meet a girl that won't bill you per hour! Or the club Routard referenced.Or one of the sugar daddy or dating sites. But he's convinced the escorts are all university students, witty conversationalists, with excellent English skills, who don't have sex for money. They just provide companionship. Even though the escort websites all specify what sexual options each escort will provide.

At least some of the other options are being discussed for the rest of us.

[ShooBree]

Do you speak Spanish? That is like $34 for a redbull vodka. I have never paid that much anywhere in Colombia. Ever!

Go to Atunes in Santa Fe. You will get a drink for around 5 k! The girls mill around and ST is around 60-70 k.I do speak Spanish and the cost was for a Vodka Red Bull, not a bottle of Vodka. The Red Bull wasn't included when purchasing a Vodka. It was my first night in Bogota so I simply decided to bite the bullet.

On Saturday I did take a cab to check out Pussy House in Chapineros but couldn't find it and didn't feel comfortable in that area, for instance a man was pissing on the sidewalk, you don't see that happening in Chico Norte. I considered going to Zona Tolerancia but decided against it because of the longer cabride and the fact that I was too pussy to go there when I didn't even feel comfortable / safe (not saying that it actually was dangerous) in Chapineros during the night.

I took a tour to see what places in Chapinero was opened on a Sunday. Casa Millenio and the house on the opposite both seemed closed with no one standing outside and the doors closed. So I took a walk to the area with a lot of casas between the 64th and 66th where you can find Palmeras, Mansion de la Placer and so on. The quality of the girls had declined, still worth it for 25 mil, but I decided to head for the "massage" places at calle 104 on cra 15. I did find it without any problems, I went into four of the places, just as in Chapinero daytime brothel district I wasn't impressed by the selection. One or two of the girls stood out by their looks, but not like earlier in the week. I was quoted 90-100 mil for an hour of sex, I decided to get it on with Julie from Venezuela. She seemed to be in her thirty's, short, decently cute and I liked her body. First the negative, it was CBJ, as usual in the places I've been to in Bogota. Now the positive, everything! She was pretty tight and most importantly, she gave 100%! From the moment we started to the finish after 60 minutes when the knock on the door came. It was GFE, PSE so I was totally finished afterwards.

I found it interesting that my best experience in Colombia was with a girl from Venezuela.

Overall I think Bogota is great for those wanting to fuck many decent looking girls without spending too much money. I myself prefer to maybe have one or two great fucks a day with a gorgeous girl which provides a stellar service. In some ways I think I might have been better off going to Madrid or Malaga. But I did the enjoy the weather and visiting a new place.

[Bogota Visitor]

This is what you're looking for:

https://www.meetup.com/Idiomarte/

From what you said, you just want to be in the company of good looking Colombian women.

Ambitious career-minded girls will want to speak English with you. It's possible that you encounter someone who'll escort, I mean, accompany you to enjoy the city.

The S in ISG stands for sex. We're here to discuss finding local women for oral sex, vaginal sex, anal sex, sex in a brothel, sex in a hotel. You're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong place. Not being facetious, just honest. Hope you have a good trip.Even though S in ISG stands for sex as you mentioned but I still find this forum useful ([Message to Admin deleted]). For example I found out from this and other Bogota review site that solitasparati is a good reliable agency with young ladies and good looks (looks is what I am after not services). Also I found out that Lloyds Hotel apartment is likely the best I can find (girl friendly, inexpensive and in the safest location) beside some members like Routard, JjBee and yourself have provided me valuable info on other clubs and links where I may be able to find ladies for companionship only.

Thank you to all.

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[TrueScotsMan]

So got this girl coming from agency, Kathy huge natural tits great body. But ill confirm when she has done her duty. 250 for BBBJ sex and taxis. Maybe a lot but I don't care she was hard to find. I will update later.

[TrueScotsMan]

Kathy came to hotel, no problem about ID or ask for extra money. She spoke no English and was very shy. Body was nothing like photos she has had a kid and tits like my dogs ears. So I help undress her she gave a decent BBBJ. Pussy was tight but she smelled dirty. Can't understand why some girls just can't jump in shower first, if I could smell it I'm sure she could. I told her she looked different from her photo, she asked to see and yes a very nice old photo. I never had condom so I just said blow job is cool. I dragged her in shower she wanted to fuck without condom, that put me off so I got dryad and never came. Gave her candy buffalo wings and water when she left. Not so much of a thank you. Cute girl but you can tell she doesn't want to be there. I will upload agency photos of girls later.

[TrueScotsMan]

Back in Scotland we like to do all day bar crawls on weekends. It's difficult to find a bar open before 12 here. Any guys have any info on bars open early. Feel free to join me.

[Chesscat]

Admirable custom, in any event. As a fallback, you can just invite people over early, or the night before, and wake up and start drinking. That's what I do.


Back in Scotland we like to do all day bar crawls on weekends. It's difficult to find a bar open before 12 here. Any guys have any info on bars open early. Feel free to join me.

[Praefectus]

So, it was my last day in Colombia. Based on reports here I decided to visit this place Juan Pablo Zhivago. Turned out it was really close to my apartment. It is on a quiet street and there is no sign, but there was a man standing outside who invited me in.

It was about 9 pm on Thursday. I sat at the counter and ordered a beer (30 mil). As it was said here, there is no pressure in this bar. All the girls presented themselves but left me alone after that.

There were about 12 chicas in the bar. Couple of them are really hot. Another 3 or 4 good looking. The others are average, but still no fatties or uglies.

I drunk my beer for 10 minutes and then invited one of the hot ones to join me. She was sitting alone, so I decided that she must be new here (maybe one of those students that just sell their bodies occasionally to pay the bills).

Her name is Sara, she has a petite body and nice be (or maybe even C) size boobs (all natural), roundish face, and that innocent look that immediately turns me on.

Anyway, I bought her a glass of Bailey's (35 mil) and we chatted for about 15 minutes. The girl is 20 years old. And she was indeed new in Zhivago, but worked in other places before. So, not so innocent after all. Claimed that she speaks English and studying German, but I haven't checked.

Finally, we talked business. She wanted 400 mil for a short time. I probably should've bargained, but I agreed on that price. Exit fee is 180 mil.

Back to my place. Girl's body didn't disappoint me, when she took off her dress. She also had one of the best looking pussies that I ever saw. Only CBJ unfortunately, but other than that the sex was great: passionate with a lot of kissing and moaning.

Massage shops.

Earlier that day I checked out massage places in Av. Carrera 15 #104-03. Visited out 5 shops. They quoted me 70-100 mil pesos for "servicio completo". All the girls were below average, and they expected me to fuck them in those tiny rooms on a massage table. I declined. Life should be better than this.

Anyway, I decided that Colombia is not really good for short trips (if you are looking for women of course). Organized prostitution means ugly girls or expensive (or both). And what the fuck with covered blowjobs everywhere?

Freelancers could be a good option, but requires a lot of time and some luck. Although I met one girl in Cali through Badoo. She provided a superb service for 100 mil. And she did a really good BBBJ. Unfortunately refused CIM, but I probably could've convinced her the next time. Too bad, I left the city before I could repeat.

Normal girls are really not easy and flacky. Especially when they find out, that you are there for just a short time.

[JjBee62]

Back in Scotland we like to do all day bar crawls on weekends. It's difficult to find a bar open before 12 here. Any guys have any info on bars open early. Feel free to join me.Check out Routard's excellent post on the day brothels in Chapinero. I'm sure some of the options serve alcohol.

[Hioctane]

After reading that last couple of reports, I am amazed at the insane prices some of you are paying. Whenever I go to Bogota, I never stray out of the Santa Fe area. There is action day and night and I never paid more than 70 k for a chica. A bit seedy sure, but the best bang for the money and you can find some real diamonds in the rough there.

[Bogota Visitor]

After reading that last couple of reports, I am amazed at the insane prices some of you are paying. Whenever I go to Bogota, I never stray out of the Santa Fe area. There is action day and night and I never paid more than 70 k for a chica. A bit seedy sure, but the best bang for the money and you can find some real diamonds in the rough there.I believe the area you are recommending is very unsafe walking around especially for tourists day or night. It is a lot safer to get am apartment in Chapinero and call in escorts though more than twice the cost or pickup from recommendation bars like Zhivago and Lalos which are located in Chapinaro and no need to walk around to find them if a taxi is caught though more than 4 times more expensive. I am just explaining as why some may prefer to visit expensive bars or call expensive escorts as they may prefer safety to cost and I am one of them.

[TrueScotsMan]

Well my first time in Colombia, I landed a super cool hotel B3 vierry. As many girls as you want day time. I even have the bar tender to call them. I have a friend she comes does my laundry speaks perfect English. She has never been asked or stopped for ID. It's a small hotel but is modern and super relaxed. Worth a look. And if you need help getting around if your a newbie like me I'll give you my friends details, she can help you with anything. Just take her for food and fun, she is a big advantage to a gringo that speaks poco Spanish.

[Coupe66]

Thinking of coming to Colombia soon for the first time. Have been looking at some videos online taken walking around the RLD of Bogota and Medellin. From what I can tell the RLD in Bogota is downtown, is that right? What I was wondering is, are these areas safe to walk around during the day for a gringo, albeit a dark haired and Spanish speaking one such as me. I don't see any gringo's on the streets on those videos. What about the places the girls are hanging out in front of, are they clean and safe for some daytime action? I still have to do most of my research, and I am sure there are loads of clubs which are safer / better etc, but just looking at these videos I have already seen a few women who are just my type, dark hair, pretty, busty and curvy, skinny barbie girls are not my type at all! Any advice would be appreciated.

[JjBee62]

Thinking of coming to Colombia soon for the first time. Have been looking at some videos online taken walking around the RLD of Bogota and Medellin. From what I can tell the RLD in Bogota is downtown, is that right? What I was wondering is, are these areas safe to walk around during the day for a gringo, albeit a dark haired and spanish speaking one such as me. I don't see any gringo's on the streets on those videos. What about the places the girls are hanging out in front of, are they clean and safe for some daytime action? I still have to do most of my research, and I am sure there are loads of clubs which are safer / better etc, but just looking at these videos I have already seen a few women who are just my type, dark hair, pretty, busty and curvy, skinny barbie girls are not my type at all! Any advice would be appreciated.The main Bogota RLD is in the area known as Santa Fe. If you open up Google Maps and search "LA Piscina" you're there. During daytime the area is safe. Safe meaning you still have to be aware of pickpockets and scam artists, but you're unlikely to face a knife or gun. You still have to keep your wits about you, but you should be fine.

Most of the places girls are hanging out in front of aren't clubs. Some are short time hotels, some are just buildings where several girls share a cheap apartment. Cleanliness will vary, but you're not going to find any upscale accommodations.

There are 3 different zones where you should be looking. There are a couple of other zones, but aren't a good idea for tourists. Those zones are Santa Fe, Chapinero and Zona Norte.

Santa Fe is the bottom end of the options. On the plus side, it's possible to get a quickie for $10 USD, even less if you're not at all picky. There are also more options in the area than anywhere else in Bogota. There are some decent options, La Piscina, El Castillo, Atunes and several others, although the big clubs will cost much more. Still, by US standards they are a bargain. You won't find any fresh faced university girls and you definitely should check ID for any young girl off the street.

Chapinero is a step up, still a bargain price, but the average girl is better looking and the accommodations are better. Expect to spend $25 to $50 USD, for a younger, better looking girl in a nicer, cleaner room. There are plenty of Casas, clubs and massage places in the area and most of the area is reasonably safe day or night.

Zona Norte is where you'll find the top shelf girls, at top shelf prices. You can expect to pay at least $100 in the top clubs in the area, with door fee, room fee and chica fee, and your total could easily reach $200. There are other options in the area, such as the massage parlors where you can pay a much lower price.

Zona Norte has plenty of nice restaurants and upscale bars, a good place to hang out when you're not addressing the more basic needs. Chapinero also has lots of dining options and shopping options. Santa Fe is convenient to the old town museums and photo ops.

Two links you'll need:

Routard's "Everything you need to know about Bogota post-.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1911247&highlight=Milenio#post1911247.

And World Travel 69's map overlays for Bogota-.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists&p=1675353&viewfull=1#post1675353.

[Hioctane]

I believe the area you are recommending is very unsafe walking around especially for tourists day or night. It is a lot safer to get am apartment in Chapinero and call in escorts though more than twice the cost or pickup from recommendation bars like Zhivago and Lalos which are located in Chapinaro and no need to walk around to find them if a taxi is caught though more than 4 times more expensive. I am just explaining as why some may prefer to visit expensive bars or call expensive escorts as they may prefer safety to cost and I am one of them.By safe I mean you won't be held up by a gun or knife if you take the proper precautions. Don't wear anything flashy, jewelry etc. This goes will all parts of Colombia. There are sufficient reports for everyone to make their own decision.

How do you know what is safer if you have never been there before?

[Bogota Visitor]

By safe I mean you won't be held up by a gun or knife if you take the proper precautions. Don't wear anything flashy, jewelry etc. This goes will all parts of Colombia. There are sufficient reports for everyone to make their own decision.

How do you know what is safer if you have never been there before?I have done a lot of research for my possible spring trip from various related sites (likely the same reports you mentioned above) as how I know. But even without any reports usually the red light district in any country even safest ones like Holland is generally unsafe. It is not hard to conclude that sitting in a classy protected hotel with security guards around and calling in escorts is safer than walking around red light district looking for street sex workers in a generally known as unsafe country as per travel advisories provided.

[Bogota Visitor]

Kathy came to hotel, no problem about ID or ask for extra money. She spoke no English and was very shy. Body was nothing like photos she has had a kid and tits like my dogs ears. So I help undress her she gave a decent BBBJ. Pussy was tight but she smelled dirty. Can't understand why some girls just can't jump in shower first, if I could smell it I'm sure she could. I told her she looked different from her photo, she asked to see and yes a very nice old photo. I never had condom so I just said blow job is cool. I dragged her in shower she wanted to fuck without condom, that put me off so I got dryad and never came. Gave her candy buffalo wings and water when she left. Not so much of a thank you. Cute girl but you can tell she doesn't want to be there. I will upload agency photos of girls later.Hi Scot,

Just curious as they appear to be so many beauties working as escorts in Bogota then why calling the one whose tits was like your dogs? Why you didn't call one of those ones in solitasparati or this one (http://www.prepagosbogota69.com/daniela.html) or this one (http://escortsbogota.co/portfolio/leidy/) or this one (http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-gina)? Are they also all fake or highly photo shopped? I don't know I have no experience with escorts in Bogota or elsewhere so as why I am curious to know.

[Hioctane]

I have done a lot of research for my possible spring trip from various related sites (likely the same reports you mentioned above) as how I know. But even without any reports usually the red light district in any country even safest ones like Holland is generally unsafe. It is not hard to conclude that sitting in a classy protected hotel with security guards around and calling in escorts is safer than walking around red light district looking for street sex workers in a generally known as unsafe country as per travel advisories provided.You can live it or read about it. Up to you.

[Routard]

You can live it or read about it. Up to you.This is the best answer I have ever read to answer the endless discussions about safety. I have visited 80 different countries including each from the top 10 most dangerous countries of the world. I have fucked probably 500 different girls, including the unavoidable AO, I practized most of existing extreme sports, took risks in my professional life. Regarding Colombia, druing the last 2 years, I have visited any corner of Colombia, the most remote areas, the most dangerous ares of the main cities, luckely, never ever happened to me or the people I love and live with, as I learned to protect my back. Yes, shit could have happened, but heck, what a life I had! Yes they can rob me, even kill me one day, but no one can ever take me back all the amazing experience I had in my life. .

[JjBee62]

This is the best answer I have ever read to answer the endless discussions about safety. I have visited 80 different countries including each from the top 10 most dangerous countries of the world. I have fucked probably 500 different girls, including the unavoidable AO, I practized most of existing extreme sports, took risks in my professional life. Regarding Colombia, druing the last 2 years, I have visited any corner of Colombia, the most remote areas, the most dangerous ares of the main cities, luckely, never ever happened to me or the people I love and live with, as I learned to protect my back. Yes, shit could have happened, but heck, what a life I had! Yes they can rob me, even kill me one day, but no one can ever take me back all the amazing experience I had in my life. .What hasn't been said is the warnings about security are often outdated or exaggerated. This is especially true with red light districts.

Whenever you read reviews, first pay attention to the date of the review. For Bogota, most of the "too dangerous" reviews are 10 years old. Like any big city, there are risks to be aware of, but I will take Santa Fe over the worst areas of Chicago, a city 1/4 of the size of Bogota. That doesn't mean I would drink 10 shots of tequila and go stumbling around at 3 am, but I have no issues with walking through and checking things out.

The other thing to look for in reviews is attitude. Is the reviewer angry about something else and trashing everything?

Moralizing is another problem. Someone accidentally walks through Santa Fe and starts seeing the obvious prostitutes in every direction, maybe spots an exposed nipple, and hops online to preach. Of course, just seeing a bunch of women in scanty (especially by Bogota daytime standards) clothing, doesn't seem bad enough, so the street gets populated with heroin addicts, shooting up and knife wielding gangsters [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) and pillaging. Somehow the reviewer manages to escape with his life without contracting a horrible disease and feels the need to warn the world.

If you're aware and alert, there is no reason to avoid Santa Fe during the daytime, or in the evening if you stick to the main streets, use taxis and use some common sense.

[Woodman09]

Thinking of coming to Colombia soon for the first time. Have been looking at some videos online taken walking around the RLD of Bogota and Medellin. From what I can tell the RLD in Bogota is downtown, is that right? What I was wondering is, are these areas safe to walk around during the day for a gringo, albeit a dark haired and spanish speaking one such as me. I don't see any gringo's on the streets on those videos. What about the places the girls are hanging out in front of, are they clean and safe for some daytime action? I still have to do most of my research, and I am sure there are loads of clubs which are safer / better etc, but just looking at these videos I have already seen a few women who are just my type, dark hair, pretty, busty and curvy, skinny barbie girls are not my type at all! Any advice would be appreciated.Hi,

I live 5 minutes walk from Santa Fe- I'm a 54 yr old gringo. I speak Spanish OK. But they know I'm a gringo after I talk for a minute.

I have a tough appearance which probably helps me.

I went out last night met up with one of my Streety Sweeties BBJ- Hot quick session with Kassandra Hot 18 yr old paisa $40 mil!

Anyhow. Just be careful-- I go all the time-- don't pull your phone out and lose your attention to what is around you.

Have an attitude where you will not be intimidated-- Don't get sucked into perps trying to talk to you-- Don't be Afraid to ignore people. But Just be aware.

I have been here 6+ yrs had a phone taken out of my pocket once.

I want to take this opportunity to Help my Driver / friend Jairo get work-- he transports girls to all the Expensive casas up north and can hook you up-- But he doesn't speak a lick of English-.

I have known him for 6 yrs -- he always drive me too the airport when I make my USA trips.

He charges 70 mil an hour for driving and a small fee for intros-- PM me for his number-.

[Coupe66]

JjBee62 thanks for all your great advice! Had a look around there on google maps, think was taken maybe early morning as the streets are quite empty apart from some chicas here and there. Like I said I still need to research a lot, but I see many of the types I like, curvy and natural looking. On the escort websites for Bogota I see endless skinny Barbie types who all look the same to me, not my types at all. Are there any clubs with more BBW types, tits and ass? That is my type! More likely maybe in a club in Santa Fe than in Zona Norte maybe? From my experience the more expensive the place, the skinnier the chicas get! I note the discussions between you guys about the area being dangerous or not during the day, but I don't see the fun in a mongering vacation of just calling escorts to come to your apartment or hotel, you experience nothing that way (except for the sex of course).

Just so I understand correctly, for Chapinero and Zona Norte you are referring to clubs, right? Not chicks standing in front of short term hotels? Is that action reserved to the Santa Fe area? Another thing, when does the weather cheer up a bit, I don't want to be burnt to a crisp but will think twice about coming if it's overcast any rainy every day in Bogota and Medellin. I get enough of that living on Belgium! Is the weather better in Jan or Feb than it is now? And the elevation, thin air, has that affected anybody's mongering abilities, as it is at 2640 metres, and I am getting on a bit!

[Bogota Visitor]

Info on Bogota is as recent as 2015 and it is not safe. Not much point to hide the facts as it may encourage some people to get too relaxed or loosen guards. Over 3000 street robberies in Chapinero alone which has a small population of 150,000 only and is supposed to be the safest place in entire Colombia (or that is what my potential airbnb hosts told me).

http://colombiareports.com/bogota-crime-statistics/

I have also read in reviews that people often complaining about looks too! Though I see plenty of beautiful pictures in Bogota escorts sites! (I attached a few in my previous post) so why not calling them instead? This makes me wonder and suspect that definitely most and likely all these beautiful pictures are fake? Or pictures or very old pictures? And to me looks is the only factor as I don't take services (I am seeking companionship only). And Routard's comment surprised me too as he was the one who recommended Zhivago (and again thank you for that) costing about 600 mil with fees and when someone asked why anyone would pay that much instead of 70 mil in Santa FE I defended his recommendation saying that may be some of us prefer safety (of North Bogota) to relatively unsafe Santa Fe but it appears that Routard wasn't impressed with my response based on his response! My apology.

[JjBee62]

Info on Bogota is as recent as 2015 and it is not safe. Not much point to hide the facts as it may encourage some people to get too relaxed or loosen guards. Over 3000 street robberies in Chapinero alone which has a small population of 150,000 only and is supposed to be the safest place in entire Colombia (or that is what my potential airbnb hosts told me).

http://colombiareports.com/bogota-crime-statistics/

I have also read in reviews that people often complaining about looks too! Though I see plenty of beautiful pictures in Bogota escorts sites! (I attached a few in my previous post) so why not calling them instead? This makes me wonder and suspect that definitely most and likely all these beautiful pictures are fake? Or pictures or very old pictures? And to me looks is the only factor as I don't take services (I am seeking companionship only). And Routard's comment surprised me too as he was the one who recommended Zhivago (and again thank you for that) costing about 600 mil with fees and when someone asked why anyone would pay that much instead of 70 mil in Santa FE I defended his recommendation saying that may be some of us prefer safety (of North Bogota) to relatively unsafe Santa Fe but it appears that Routard wasn't impressed with my response based on his response! My apology.Bogota has a population of roughly 12 million, with a high population density. While Chapinero may have 150,000 population, it is surrounded on 3 sides by the rest of the city, with a lot of street traffic. If they have 3000 robberies per year, that's just over 8 per day. Figuring roughly 90,000 additional people per day (visitors and employees), it gives you about a 1 in 30,000 chance of being victim of a crime.

Of course, that's a low estimate because there are a lot of businesses in Chapinero and a lot of visitors. That is probably too high of a risk for you, but for most people it's acceptable.

For comparison, let's do the Chapinero per capita crime rate, 3000/150,000 = 2000/100,000. Now let's compare to the province of Quebec, Canada, 5909/100,000 (2006 statistics). So, the incredibly dangerous neighborhood of Chapinero is 3 times safer than the 2nd safest province in Canada, considered by most to be one of the safest countries in the world. Clearly we should all be terrified.

Wherever you travel there are risks and there are ways to reduce the risks. If you're too worried about the risks, then stay home. The last thing Bogota, or any other city needs is a paranoid tourist who is terrified to leave his hotel room (not realizing that any escort who comes into your room may rob you. Also not realizing that thieves and scam artists hang out at the airport, because they know the incoming tourists are carrying lots of cash).

You want to stay in a safe, secure apartment, that will not check the ID of any of the roughly 25 strangers you plan to invite to your room and you're worried about safety?

You do whatever you think will work for you. You're obviously the expert. However, until you actually go to Bogota, walk the streets and visit the different neighborhoods, don't try to tell the people who combined have spent thousands of hours there, how safe it is.

[Bogota Visitor]

Bogota has a population of roughly 12 million, with a high population density. While Chapinero may have 150,000 population, it is surrounded on 3 sides by the rest of the city, with a lot of street traffic. If they have 3000 robberies per year, that's just over 8 per day. Figuring roughly 90,000 additional people per day (visitors and employees), it gives you about a 1 in 30,000 chance of being victim of a crime.

Of course, that's a low estimate because there are a lot of businesses in Chapinero and a lot of visitors. That is probably too high of a risk for you, but for most people it's acceptable.

For comparison, let's do the Chapinero per capita crime rate, 3000/150,000 = 2000/100,000. Now let's compare to the province of Quebec, Canada, 5909/100,000 (2006 statistics). So, the incredibly dangerous neighborhood of Chapinero is 3 times safer than the 2nd safest province in Canada, considered by most to be one of the safest countries in the world..You are inventing statistics. As per link below for 2015 comparison there has been 48 robberies per 100,000 in Quebec. Even if you add all assault types it is still about 600 per 100,000 significantly less than 2000 for Chapinero.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal50b-eng.htm

There are travel advisories for Colombia and Bogota in place as we speak and the best comparison on relative safety are the two link below.

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Bogota

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Montreal

However, if you wish to deny the facts and statistics then that is your privilege but please don't advise others falsely as how safe Bogota is so that they make an inform decision regarding their travel plans and where or which parts of Bogota to visit and have their guards down.

[Routard]

And Routard's comment surprised me too as he was the one who recommended Zhivago (and again thank you for that) costing about 600 mil with fees and when someone asked why anyone would pay that much instead of 70 mil in Santa FE I defended his recommendation saying that may be some of us prefer safety (of North Bogota) to relatively unsafe Santa Fe but it appears that Routard wasn't impressed with my response based on his response! My apology.Don't worry, it was just a comment for my own life. Crime statitics will not prevent me from living my life and going anywhere in Colombia. But I understand perfectly that for other people safety is more important, so I recommend them other areas than Santa Fe. Anyone his own life. Most important is that you enjoy your stay, return home safely with good memories from Colombia.

[World Travel 69]

I don't think you will have any trouble with the heat.

Yes to the question about chicas standing in front of motels in Santa Fe and not in the North.

January and February would be their Summer.



Just so I understand correctly, for Chapinero and Zona Norte you are referring to clubs, right? Not chicks standing in front of short term hotels? Is that action reserved to the Santa Fe area?
Another thing, when does the weather cheer up a bit, I don't want to be burnt to a crisp but will think twice about coming if it's overcast any rainy every day in Bogota and Medellin. I get enough of that living on Belgium! Is the weather better in Jan or Feb than it is now? And the elevation, thin air, has that affected anybody's mongering abilities, as it is at 2640 metres, and I am getting on a bit!

[AddictedToWomen]

You are inventing statistics. As per link below for 2015 comparison there has been 48 robberies per 100,000 in Quebec. Even if you add all assault types it is still about 600 per 100,000 significantly less than 2000 for Chapinero.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal50b-eng.htm

There are travel advisories for Colombia and Bogota in place as we speak and the best comparison on relative safety are the two link below.

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Bogota

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Montreal

However, if you wish to deny the facts and statistics then that is your privilege but please don't advise others falsely as how safe Bogota is so that they make an inform decision regarding their travel plans and where or which parts of Bogota to visit and have their guards down.This.

By no stretch of the imagination is Bogotá, and especially SF, even close to safe, and it does a tremendous disservice to other to imply otherwise.

You probably won't get kidnapped by the FARC these days, but you do stand a significant risk of a paseo millonario, theft, and mugging at knifepoint and should take appropriate precautions.

[Woodman09]

I want to take this opportunity to Help my Driver / friend Jairo get work-- he transports girls to all the UpScale casas up north and can hook you up-- But he doesn't speak a lick of English.

70 mil an hour for transportation to all casas.

Personal intro to chicas $50 mil.

Chicas start around $300 mil + transport- I believe that would be 2 hour date. Attached just a few chicas. There will be more- Jairo has to get photos -- he has Many Hot Chica contacts.

I will Field all requests for Jairo-- so PM me.

I'm available for guiding and reservations / travel arrangements.

[Chesscat]

Why do these kinds of posts bother me?


I want to take this opportunity to Help my Driver / friend Jairo get work-- he transports girls to all the UpScale casas up north and can hook you up-- But he doesn't speak a lick of English.

70 mil an hour for transportation to all casas.

Personal intro to chicas $50 mil.

Chicas start around $300 mil + transport- I believe that would be 2 hour date. Attached just a few chicas. There will be more- Jairo has to get photos -- he has Many Hot Chica contacts.

I will Field all requests for Jairo-- so PM me.

I'm available for guiding and reservations / travel arrangements.

[LatinaLover#1]

While the Northern parts of Bogota are safer, it's by no means a walk in the park. I've had many lady friends and student friends robbed at knife point or with a gun. Most occur near the bus stops or around the colleges and they usually work in teams so be aware of who's looking at you. Student backpacks are full of phones and laptops and they know it. In fact, many of them have been robbed multiple times. I cruised SF with Woodman a few years ago and his advice is spot on. However I felt the later it got the more vulnerable I felt. My advice would be to be out of there by 8 or 9 pm. Also, remember its always advisable to call your own taxi then to jump into any street cab. I have been traveling to Colombia 5 or 6 times a year for about 6 or 7 years now and have never encountered a problem but I still will never let my guard down even in the barrios of Chico Norte or Chico Navarra, where I usually stay.

[Bogota Visitor]

Hi dear members,

This question has been asked many times but very seldom answered. People asking for a Chica friendly hotel in Bogota. I share what I can (based on hearsay because I haven't been there myself yet).

It is recommendation here recently that Lloyds apartment Hotel and B3 Virrey are both girl friendly (many thanks to those who posted the recommendations). I also read somewhere to avoid Embassy hotel as they take pictures of your visitors and treat them badly.

It also is recommended below.

Bogotá.

Hotel El Virrey.

Sofitel Victoria Regia, Carrera 13#85-80 Cundinamarca.

That above two hotels are girl friendly, you can find other cities and countries too.

However, the first one is in a questionable area and second one is more than I can afford for a room.

So if you do know of any other in North parts of Bogota please let us all know.

[LatinaLover#1]

Why do these kinds of posts bother me?Knowing Woodman I doubt he's on commision with the driver, even if he was, so what! This kind of info is very valuable for a newbee or even a seasoned travelers first Bogota visit. It enables a first time Bogota visitor to hit the ground running, a way to be spoon fed the lay of the land.

[Hioctane]

I want to take this opportunity to Help my Driver / friend Jairo get work-- he transports girls to all the UpScale casas up north and can hook you up-- But he doesn't speak a lick of English.

70 mil an hour for transportation to all casas.

Personal intro to chicas $50 mil.

Chicas start around $300 mil + transport- I believe that would be 2 hour date. Attached just a few chicas. There will be more- Jairo has to get photos -- he has Many Hot Chica contacts.

I will Field all requests for Jairo-- so PM me.

I'm available for guiding and reservations / travel arrangements.FYI, pimping is illegal in Colombia. There is a fine line with getting paid to introduce and pimping. Sounds like another Jake in the works.

[Hioctane]

Hi dear members,

This question has been asked many times but very seldom answered. People asking for a Chica friendly hotel in Bogota. I share what I can (based on hearsay because I haven't been there myself yet).

It is recommendation here recently that Lloyds apartment Hotel and B3 Virrey are both girl friendly (many thanks to those who posted the recommendations). I also read somewhere to avoid Embassy hotel as they take pictures of your visitors and treat them badly.

It also is recommended below.

Bogot.

Hotel El Virrey.

Sofitel Victoria Regia, Carrera 13#85-80 Cundinamarca.

That above two hotels are girl friendly, you can find other cities and countries too.

However, the first one is in a questionable area and second one is more than I can afford for a room.

So if you do know of any other in North parts of Bogota please let us all know.There is no reply because it has been discussed frequently that hotels are generally not girl friendly in Colombia and many go the apartment route. If you really want to risk hotels, at least book for 2. And even then it is no sure thing.

[Marglo]

FYI, pimping is illegal in Colombia. There is a fine line with getting paid to introduce and pimping. Sounds like another Jake in the works.I am in Bogota once a month. If this cabby charges 7000 pesos and hour that is cheap. If he charges 70,000 then even the hotel cabs charge no more than 20,000 to $25,000 pesos per hour and $70000 is clear ripoff.

[Bogota Visitor]

There is no reply because it has been discussed frequently that hotels are generally not girl friendly in Colombia and many go the apartment route. If you really want to risk hotels, at least book for 2. And even then it is no sure thing.Thank you for clarifications though I have read from established members like Routard here that in Chapinero hotels are generally girl friendly as why I asked. In apartments too the visitors must check-in at the reception (apparently in Bogota all apartments have doormen and security at entrance likely because of lack of security in the region). The doorman on duty calls the apartment via intercom and asks if the resident is expecting someone named (visitor's name). It is for safety and is a good thing but if you plan to call for 2 to 3 companions every day for a short time like I do then this may raise some suspensions with the security. Generally I have read exchange of money for sex is only allowed in designated areas and is illegal elsewhere like in Chapinaro. Now this may not be enforced (and I don't intend to take part in sex or sexual activity just companionship) but lack of enforcement doesn't make it legal.

[Combo]

FYI, pimping is illegal in Colombia. There is a fine line with getting paid to introduce and pimping. Sounds like another Jake in the works.My thoughts exactly. In addition, he'd be paying much higher prices by having a third party (Woodman's contact) involved.

[Woodman09]

FYI, pimping is illegal in Colombia. There is a fine line with getting paid to introduce and pimping. Sounds like another Jake in the works.I'm just trying to help Jairo he is a hard working family man --I'm not making anything-.

Maybe I'll get some guide work. But I'm pretty busy with my own business so It's really not that important to me.

By the way Jairo is a Great driver and he knows a lot of girls. I hope to have some more photos soon.

[Woodman09]

I am in Bogota once a month. If this cabby charges 7000 pesos and hour that is cheap. If he charges 70,000 then even the hotel cabs charge no more than 20,000 to $25,000 pesos per hour and $70000 is clear ripoff.I know many Bianco taxi drivers charge that. I'm not collecting the fare and it may be negotiable. Anyhow he has intimate knowledge of the casa in the north. Like I said I'm just trying to help my friend.

[World Travel 69]

This is what newbies and old timers need. Someone to trust to drive you around.


I'm just trying to help Jairo he is a hard working family man --I'm not making anything-.

Maybe I'll get some guide work. But I'm pretty busy with my own business so It's really not that important to me.

By the way Jairo is a Great driver and he knows a lot of girls. I hope to have some more photos soon.

[Bogota Visitor]

I decided against hotels and now am about to rent an apartment in Chapinero Alto I think on Callie 72 Carrier 1 or 2 not sure. I really like the apartment but what I read tells me that around Parque 93 is safer so I am two-hearted as I haven't found such a great apartment around parque 93 and usually it is more expensive. Would you experienced people on the ground say that Chapinero Alto is safe enough at least to walk daytime? Or early evenings as well?

[Jasoonnn]

I decided against hotels and now am about to rent an apartment in Chapinero Alto I think on Callie 72 Carrier 1 or 2 not sure. I really like the apartment but what I read tells me that around Parque 93 is safer so I am two-hearted as I haven't found such a great apartment around parque 93 and usually it is more expensive. Would you experienced people on the ground say that Chapinero Alto is safe enough at least to walk daytime? Or early evenings as well?I recently stayed in an Airbnb at Carrera 18, close to the Four Points Sheraton. Was a nice size place (52 sq meters), safe neighborhood, had a doorman, but he didn't ask for the girls ID or register her when I took her up. Cost was about $50 a night. It's called "Lovely modern apartment. Easy access to 93 park" on Airbnb if you want to take a look.

Will be posting a full report for Bogota shortly.

[JjBee62]

I decided against hotels and now am about to rent an apartment in Chapinero Alto I think on Callie 72 Carrier 1 or 2 not sure. I really like the apartment but what I read tells me that around Parque 93 is safer so I am two-hearted as I haven't found such a great apartment around parque 93 and usually it is more expensive. Would you experienced people on the ground say that Chapinero Alto is safe enough at least to walk daytime? Or early evenings as well?Should be safe and the men there are very friendly. You are going to confuse the neighborhood by having women come to visit. Probably will disappoint a few guys as well.

Chapinero Alto is Bogota's main gay neighborhood.

[Routard]

I decided against hotels and now am about to rent an apartment in Chapinero Alto I think on Callie 72 Carrier 1 or 2 not sure. I really like the apartment but what I read tells me that around Parque 93 is safer so I am two-hearted as I haven't found such a great apartment around parque 93 and usually it is more expensive. Would you experienced people on the ground say that Chapinero Alto is safe enough at least to walk daytime? Or early evenings as well? Your adress is confusying, but this looks like Rosales, or Zona G. It's one of the best neighborhood, as even the president has his appartment here. Zona G is where you find the best restaurants of Bogota. It's the favorite outgoing area for elder people, as there are no bars and discos like in Zona T or Parque 93. Not my favorite place, not fun enough, but yes it it safe.

[Hioctane]

I'm just trying to help Jairo he is a hard working family man --I'm not making anything-.

Maybe I'll get some guide work. But I'm pretty busy with my own business so It's really not that important to me.

By the way Jairo is a Great driver and he knows a lot of girls. I hope to have some more photos soon.I was referring to Jairo. Getting paid to refer girls will get really dicy. Especially advertising it publicly like this.

[Buckinup]

Hi dear members,

This question has been asked many times but very seldom answered. People asking for a Chica friendly hotel in Bogota. I share what I can (based on hearsay because I haven't been there myself yet).

It is recommendation here recently that Lloyds apartment Hotel and B3 Virrey are both girl friendly (many thanks to those who posted the recommendations). I also read somewhere to avoid Embassy hotel as they take pictures of your visitors and treat them badly.

It also is recommended below.

Bogot.

Hotel El Virrey.

Sofitel Victoria Regia, Carrera 13#85-80 Cundinamarca.

That above two hotels are girl friendly, you can find other cities and countries too.

However, the first one is in a questionable area and second one is more than I can afford for a room.

So if you do know of any other in North parts of Bogota please let us all know.Tryp by Wyndham Usaquen.

I stayed here last February and did not have a problem bringing a lady to my room two nights in a row. I usually book the room for 2 when I travel. The lady was well dressed both times she came and we did not have a problem. All that being said, the lobby is small, so you're not going to sneak anyone in and someone dressed provocatively may get a different reception.

[JjBee62]

Your adress is confusying, but this looks like Rosales, or Zona G. It's one of the best neighborhood, as even the president has his appartment here. Zona G is where you find the best restaurants of Bogota. It's the favorite outgoing area for elder people, as there are no bars and discos like in Zona T or Parque 93. Not my favorite place, not fun enough, but yes it it safe.The location he is talking about is Carrera 72 near Calle 2. Probably the worst thing about the location is that it's always going to be an uphill walk to get back there. Safe area, quiet area, some nice restaurants not too far away, but that uphill walk, if you're not used to the altitude, can be rough.

[Hioctane]

Thank you for clarifications though I have read from established members like Routard here that in Chapinero hotels are generally girl friendly as why I asked. In apartments too the visitors must check-in at the reception (apparently in Bogota all apartments have doormen and security at entrance likely because of lack of security in the region). The doorman on duty calls the apartment via intercom and asks if the resident is expecting someone named (visitor's name). It is for safety and is a good thing but if you plan to call for 2 to 3 companions every day for a short time like I do then this may raise some suspensions with the security. Generally I have read exchange of money for sex is only allowed in designated areas and is illegal elsewhere like in Chapinaro. Now this may not be enforced (and I don't intend to take part in sex or sexual activity just companionship) but lack of enforcement doesn't make it legal.The general rule of thumb in Colombia is that the higher the stars, the less girl friendly a hotel is. Some 5 star hotels won't even let girls in. Others will charge you the price of the room for a girl. Guest policies change all the time too. It is just not worth the headache.

In Colombia, all high rise apartments have doormen. I don't know if it is for safety reasons or whatever. Most will call you if a girl comes. Very few if any will check ID. However, if you tip, they will pretty much do anything you want! If you plan to have lots of girls over, I would get friendly with the doormen and tip them.

Paying for sex is legal in Colombia. Just be discreet and you will be fine.

[Woodman09]

These 2 Viagra products have the Woodman Seal of Approval- They Work Great for going on a pussy tear. I like the chewable half a tab is good for 12+ hours.

The spray is good but kinda yuck tasting.

Good Price for the chewable 20 mil for 2 50 MG tabs at the corner of Calle 22 and 7th ave.

[Woodman09]

I decided against hotels and now am about to rent an apartment in Chapinero Alto I think on Callie 72 Carrier 1 or 2 not sure. I really like the apartment but what I read tells me that around Parque 93 is safer so I am two-hearted as I haven't found such a great apartment around parque 93 and usually it is more expensive. Would you experienced people on the ground say that Chapinero Alto is safe enough at least to walk daytime? Or early evenings as well?That part of Chapinero is kinda remote -- Hotel Grace is Better Near restaurants, a Good supermarket, Transmilenio, Daytime casas.

Catch Transmilenio at 63 d or 57th to Santa Fe 15 min.

https://www.facebook.com/The-Grace-Hotel-646336122123645/

[Woodman09]

I know many Bianco taxi drivers charge that. I'm not collecting the fare and it may be negotiable. Anyhow he has intimate knowledge of the casa in the north. Like I said I'm just trying to help my friend.Just want to add, my Rich Venezuelan friend and I used to go to all the casas in the North 2-3 times a week. That is how I met Jairo and got to go to all the casas. I would not go now as I can get the same quality on the streets and clubs of Santa Fe. And my Rich friend who used to pay for everything is not around. He was a maniac and he died of a cocaine overdose RIP Jose.

[AddictedToWomen]

Your adress is confusying, but this looks like Rosales, or Zona G. It's one of the best neighborhood, as even the president has his appartment here. Zona G is where you find the best restaurants of Bogota. It's the favorite outgoing area for elder people, as there are no bars and discos like in Zona T or Parque 93. Not my favorite place, not fun enough, but yes it it safe.Yeah, agreed. 72&1/2 is a bit off the beaten track. P93 is much more happening and would be my preference.

[Woodman09]

That part of Chapinero is kinda remote -- Hotel Grace is Better Near restaurants, a Good supermarket, Transmilenio, Daytime casas.

Catch Transmilenio at 63 d or 57th to Santa Fe 15 min.

https://www.facebook.com/The-Grace-Hotel-646336122123645/Also Head north to Zona Rosa / Parque 93 in taxi or TransMilenio.

Transmilenio is a great way to get around-- Sometimes the quickest too. But it can get Super Crowded at peak -- I mean Crazy. But you really don't want to be going anywhere at peak rush hour.

[Sixty 9]

The general information from Routard is excellent. Next year I will be in Bogota for 3 weeks. If the B3 Virrey hotel is girlfriendly, it could be a good option for me.

Is there a Cialis generica available in Colombia and in case what is the name of the drug?

[AddictedToWomen]

Transmilenio is a great way to get around-- Sometimes the quickest too. But it can get Super Crowded at peak ...And is a pickpocket's paradise: keep ya wits about ya!

[JjBee62]

And is a pickpocket's paradise: keep ya wits about ya!Never had a problem, even the times when it was packed so tight we were all exchanging bodily fluids by osmosis. Then again I don't carry a wallet, minimize the cash I carry, split it between front pockets and keep aware.

But, if you like to carry a phonemail or wallet in your back pockets, you might not keep them long.

One trick is to be patient. If the bus you want is crowded (I won't say full, because there is no such thing as a full Transmilenio. There's always room for another 853 people.), just wait. Learn which routes stop at, or near your desired stop. Chances are one will be less crowded, or one will stop at the next station, where you can hop an empty bus back.

If you're not in a hurry, take a bus in the opposite direction, until you can grab the right bus with still empty seats. Easier to protect your pockets while sitting.

If you are on a bus that gets packed, don't worry about your stop. Keep your seat until the crowd thins, then backtrack. At most you'll lose an hour and you can hop back and forth between buses all you want, as long as you don't exit a station. For 2000 cop, it's a bargain.

Of course if you're in a rush and every second counts, you probably shouldn't be in Bogota.

[BaldeRojo]

The general information from Routard is excellent. Next year I will be in Bogota for 3 weeks. If the B3 Virrey hotel is girlfriendly, it could be a good option for me.

Is there a Cialis generica available in Colombia and in case what is the name of the drug?It's Tadalafil genérico. But you can just say cialis genérico. It's still not cheap but cheaper. I don't remember the price exactly. All the farmacias carry it as well as generic Viagra.

[Woodman09]

And is a pickpocket's paradise: keep ya wits about ya!If you put things in inner pockets and ride off peak. No Problem at all. I ride all the time.

[LatinaLover#1]

It's Tadalafil genrico. But you can just say cialis genrico. It's still not cheap but cheaper. I don't remember the price exactly. All the farmacias carry it as well as generic Viagra.Toured a few Pharmacy's a few trips back in Bogota and it seemed to me to be a little cheaper than the States but way more than in CR or Rio or Peru.

[Writer954]

Has anyone rented a chica friendly vacation apartment in Chapinero? One without chica fees. I was looking on air bnb and flipkey. This will be my first trip to Bogota. However, I have had plenty of luck finding these in Santa Marta, Baranquilla and Cartagena.

Thanks so much!

[Bogota Visitor]

Has anyone rented a chica friendly vacation apartment in Chapinero? One without chica fees. I was looking on air bnb and flipkey. This will be my first trip to Bogota. However, I have had plenty of luck finding these in Santa Marta, Baranquilla and Cartagena.

Thanks so much!There is no chica fees for apartments when rented through airbnb (or elsewhere) I don't think. This is the first time I hear though this could happen with hotels in Bogota. I search for apartments in Bogota for weeks and contacted many and never came across one asking for chica fees expect may be some would charge extra for more than one guest chica or otherwise (and some say extra guest free) and that is for overnight stay. That said I didn't tell them directly about escorts visiting but just told them I may have visitors during my stay and with the exception of one (out of 50) they all said visitors are okay but they have to check in at reception (no ID left unlike hotels) and the security will call me and ask for permission. That said loud parties for all and overnight stay for some not allowed. Also my case may be different as I am seeking companionship and not sex or any kind of sexual activity just fully dressed companionship and limited wine and chocolate, so I assured my landlord there will be no disturbance of any kind or loud music or overnight stay. And in return they assured me that I can have visitors without any issues. Hope this helps.

[Woodman09]

Has anyone rented a chica friendly vacation apartment in Chapinero? One without chica fees. I was looking on air bnb and flipkey. This will be my first trip to Bogota. However, I have had plenty of luck finding these in Santa Marta, Baranquilla and Cartagena.

Thanks so much!This is a nice place in a Nice section of Chapinero.

https://www.facebook.com/646336122123645/photos/a.646340982123159.1073741827.646336122123645/788609424562980/?type=1&theater

[PepolesBuddy]

Which city is best for mongering? I'm looking for something similar to San Jose Costa Rica. Hoping to find something safer and cheaper.

[Sixty 9]

Has anyone rented a chica friendly vacation apartment in Chapinero? One without chica fees. I was looking on air bnb and flipkey. This will be my first trip to Bogota. However, I have had plenty of luck finding these in Santa Marta, Baranquilla and Cartagena.

Thanks so much!Okay, thanks to you and BaldeRojo for the Information.

It seems that it will cost more than in Republica Domincana but still less than in Western Europe there ist dificult tu buy a Cialis generica.

[World Travel 69]

Either Medellin or Bogota.

Medellin is smaller and easier to get around.

Bogota has more things to offer other than just getting laid.

Cali would be better than Cartagena for action and cheaper.

Safer, that depends on you.


Which city is best for mongering? I'm looking for something similar to San Jose Costa Rica. Hoping to find something safer and cheaper.

[JjBee62]

Which city is best for mongering? I'm looking for something similar to San Jose Costa Rica. Hoping to find something safer and cheaper.If you're looking for something similar to San Jose, Costa Rica, I suggest San Jose, Costa Rica.

The problem you will have is that you'll be too busy complaining that the new place isn't like San Jose, to enjoy the new place.

If having a tropical beach handy is important, Cartagena is your place. It's not cheap by Colombia standards, but many enjoy it.

If you don't want the high heat and humidity, Cali or Medellin would be good choices. Not too hot to walk around midday, comfortable temperature at night. Cali is a bit rougher than Medellin.

If you pick Bogota, take a jacket. You will need it most days, especially during the rainy season. Bogota can be intimidating. It's a big city with a very high population density. It has lots of options.

I suggest figuring out which climate you prefer first.

[AddictedToWomen]

Back in Bogotá and swung by Pussy House the other night. I'd totally forgotten how passive Colombian WGs can be about engaging with johns. On the one hand it's nice to not have to be fighting them off all the time, but I really don't want to be chasing around the fucking room after a girl I like when I could just be sitting down enjoying a drink.

[JjBee62]

Back in Bogot and swung by Pussy House the other night. I'd totally forgotten how passive Colombian WGs can be about engaging with johns. On the one hand it's nice to not have to be fighting them off all the time, but I really don't want to be chasing around the fucking room after a girl I like when I could just be sitting down enjoying a drink.It always seems you have to chase down the ones you want, but the ones you don't want are all over you.

[Chango69]

New member here, therefore my first posting. Before l begin, l want to thank everyone here for their valuable information, so many of you.

After watching an episode of Narcos with prostitutes (erotic as hell) and stumbling across this site, l decided to take a trip to just check out Bog and Mde.

I am East Indian in my 40's living in Estados Unidos, avid traveler and never done anything like this ever. Flew to Bog got a hotel near the national museum and made my way to the zona tolerancia the first night.

I was nervous at first after the bad rep it has from many posters here, but l decided to go anyways. And boy was l glad. The key is to get a drink be patient and you would always find your type. I have never had such an amazing time. My favs were Troyas, Fiebre and Paisas. I was there everyday for 3 nights and decided to try the ones in Zona Rosa. I had no problem hanging out in Zona Tolerancia even around midnight. People were friendly and very helpful. Was able to get original Cialis off the counter. My first time taking it and WOW.

Stayed 2 nights at the Sofitel. I walked into Piscina Norte which was nearby and was quoted 700000 K. I was shocked, and the Chica was about the same as l had in SF where l paid 70000 k. Outrageous prices and the same in El Padrino. And my adventures continued in Mde l had such a great time there too. Incredible time.

By the way l don't speak a word of Spanish, and used Google translate so do not let that discourage you from going. The hotels l stayed at were chica friendly. I had 3 that l called from a website and there were escorted by the hotel staff to my room.

Taxis were cheap and l had no problem flagging one from the street. I am light skinned therefore blended with the crowd. I can't wait to go back.

Thanks to everyone here. Feel free to ask me anything.

[Woodman09]

Was all around Santa Fe tonight (Tuesday) Nice Selection of Street Girls- Was with a friend and we went to Paisas, Fiebre, La Casona, Troya and all the rest-- Most were quiet with some Hot Girls 6's-7's-8's+- Troya was really happening with 20-25+ girls Lotsa Hotties- ratio was maybe 1.5 to 1 (men to women) I negotiated a deal for my friend for 70 mil.

I just Love Troya club with always strippers and Real lap dances going on- Hot chicas getting naked a table away in Full contact-- Just a bacchanal.

Will be out there tomorrow night with another friend.

[Woodman09]

Spent 5 hours with a client in Santa Fe mostly in Troya and Fiebre.

So many girls I wanted to fuck!

At least 50% of the girls at those 2 clubs.

I really love Fiebre nice high ceilings with balconies- So much action strippers and super hot lap dance happening all around. The whole time Hotties walking by flirting.

At one point a really busty Latina shook me down for a drink and was teasing me showing me her tits and pussy- I tried to grab it.

A big Colombian custom is to have 1 chica do a lap dance for 2-4 guys at once. It's fantastic!

I sit in the Club and I feel like I'm Ancient Rome or WestWorld- Just off the hook!

[Woodman09]

Weather you Bang a Street or Club girl in SF you use a room there.

-If the maid is there when you get to the room-- Always give her / him $1-$3 mil+ they may give you a few extra minutes before they knock.

Also if everything is good and you missed them on the way in flip them a mil or 2- It will pay off in the future if you go back.

[Woodman09]

Back in Bogot and swung by Pussy House the other night. I'd totally forgotten how passive Colombian WGs can be about engaging with johns. On the one hand it's nice to not have to be fighting them off all the time, but I really don't want to be chasing around the fucking room after a girl I like when I could just be sitting down enjoying a drink.Eye of the Tiger.

[DocInHeat]

Had a great time hanging out with the Woodman. If you definitely want a wingman, he's a good choice. A good guy and knowledgeable! The clubs were fun, some jamming and some not. It was hard to figure out which one's were going to be hot that night, but everything is within walking distance of each other. Great places for cheap quickies with hot girls!

[AddictedToWomen]

Eye of the Tiger.Huh?

(obligatory extra unnecessary characters).

[Stranlers]

Here a seasoned gent in Chapinero for a few weeks available as your wingman.

My Spanish is pretty good and have a lot of experience in America Latina.

I do not know Bogota well but willing to explore.

Two guys are safer than one.

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[Obchodnik]

Hi,

We were two of us, have fun with friends in Santa Fe, Club La Piscina. The girls are very nice there Latina style. Evening was great. When we went home, my friend is from Germany wanted to go even look into other clubs. It was about 1:15 in the morning. I went for a taxi to the hotel. He was running around Santa Fe in one of the lower streets attacked him, smashed his head, took his phone, sneakers and money he had in himself. At night, the Santa Fee extremely dangerous, and there are policemen. Be careful and go not alone. We will not walk over there already. Zona Rosa is much safer.

[El Cock]

Dave here a seasoned gent in Chapinero for a few weeks available as your wingman.

My Spanish is pretty good and have a lot of experience in America Latina.

I do not know Bogota well but willing to explore.

Two guys are safer than one.Hi,

I will arrive in BOG today.

How to contact you to talk about going somewhere?

Regards.

[Bogota Visitor]

Hi,

We were two of us, have fun with friends in Santa Fe, Club La Piscina. The girls are very nice there Latina style. Evening was great. When we went home, my friend is from Germany wanted to go even look into other clubs. It was about 1:15 in the morning. I went for a taxi to the hotel. He was running around Santa Fe in one of the lower streets attacked him, smashed his head, took his phone, sneakers and money he had in himself. At night, the Santa Fee extremely dangerous, and there are policemen. Be careful and go not alone. We will not walk over there already. Zona Rosa is much safer.Some may suggest that violence is a thing of the past in Colombia. This is a disservice to members and tourists to say that, Yes it is less likely to be kidnapped by terrorists but violent crimes including robbery and assaults is same or worse. Statistics shows even more violent crimes in Chapinero (where zone Rosa is located) than Santa Fe (I did attach a link before in one of my posts). Avoid all areas of Bogota after dark Especially late at night. Your friend is either too courageous (a big guy who can very well defend himself like the James bonds we see in movies) or too stupid to walk around at 1:15 am in Santa Fe Colombia.

[Eszpresszo]

These 2 Viagra products have the Woodman Seal of Approval- They Work Great for going on a pussy tear. I like the chewable half a tab is good for 12+ hours.

The spray is good but kinda yuck tasting.

Good Price for the chewable 20 mil for 2 50 MG tabs at the corner of Calle 22 and 7th ave.Wow! So there are both Sildenafil? Was this available at an actual pharmacy?

[AddictedToWomen]

Some may suggest that violence is a thing of the past in Colombia. This is a disservice to members and tourists to say that, Yes it is less likely to be kidnapped by terrorists but violent crimes including robbery and assaults is same or worse. Statistics shows even more violent crimes in Chapinero (where zone Rosa is located) than Santa Fe (I did attach a link before in one of my posts). Avoid all areas of Bogota after dark Especially late at night. Your friend is either too courageous (a big guy who can very well defend himself like the James bonds we see in movies) or too stupid to walk around at 1:15 am in Santa Fe Colombia.This.

If you think Colombia is safe you're not prepared.

[Woodman09]

Wow! So there are both Sildenafil? Was this available at an actual pharmacy?Yes- Most pharmacies.

[JjBee62]

This.

If you think Colombia is safe you're not prepared.If you think walking around, alone, at 1 am in any city of more than 10 million people, is safe, you're not smart enough to be let out of the house without adult supervision. Especially in the red light district.

However, to single out Bogota, as if the same thing wouldn't have happened in almost any comparable neighborhood in any major city, is doing Bogota a disservice.

Bad things happen when you do stupid things, no matter where you are.

[Bogota Visitor]

If you think walking around, alone, at 1 am in any city of more than 10 million people, is safe, you're not smart enough to be let out of the house without adult supervision. Especially in the red light district.

However, to single out Bogota, as if the same thing wouldn't have happened in almost any comparable neighborhood in any major city, is doing Bogota a disservice.

Bad things happen when you do stupid things, no matter where you are.I can walk around at any time in any Canadian city and feel safe though you may argue that there is no city of 10 million in Canada and you are right but I have walked around in London England late at nights when I was younger (about 20 years ago) and felt safe and never mugged, robbed and assaulted. I must have done that at least 100 times and I think London has 10 million residents. New York is not as safe as London and I have never walked around in New York but I have a feeling Bogota is less safe. My point yes you are right in any city of 10 million it is not safe to walk around alone late at night but it is a lot worse in comparison in Bogota than other comparable European and North American cities of 10 million London being an example unless we compare Bogota to other dangerous South American cities then you are correct.

[Bogota Visitor]

This.

If you think Colombia is safe you're not prepared.Thank you for your endorsement. The reason I have posted what I posted is that there are many articles on internet likely written by some tourists organizations or travel agencies depicting Colombia as now a safe place claiming that at one time it was unsafe but now it is much better even though they caution about showing off money or jewelry or expensive phones but still giving the impression that it is safe like major cities in Europe and North America. So people read these misleading articles and when they travel they feel they are as safe as home and start walking around after dark and alone and unprepared and hence fall victims. My posts are to counter those false assurances. Likely the German friend was a victim of those articles depicting Colombia now as relatively safe compare to past. Otherwise he must have been completely out of his mind otherwise to walk in red Light district in a country like Colombia at 1:15 am!

[Eszpresszo]

So, I am considering a visit to Bogota. Would it be a safe bet to merely take a cab to your destination in Santa Fe, and take a cab from your casa / club whatever? I'm thinking the management of most establishments can call you a cab.

Note, that I have visited Medellin without any problems, but I understand its a different ball game in Bogota. I like to try different places with every trip I take and understand Bogota has a much wider variety of mongering options than Medellin, which is saying a lot. Heck, the exchange rate is awfully good right now.

[TrueScotsMan]

The general information from Routard is excellent. Next year I will be in Bogota for 3 weeks. If the B3 Virrey hotel is girlfriendly, it could be a good option for me.

Is there a Cialis generica available in Colombia and in case what is the name of the drug?I stayed in B3 2 weeks ago, great little hotel. Roman behind bar daytime was telling me best places for girls. I had no problem bringing girls back in daytime. Nights are different you might have to pay.

[JjBee62]

Thank you for your endorsement. The reason I have posted what I posted is that there are many articles on internet likely written by some tourists organizations or travel agencies depicting Colombia as now a safe place claiming that at one time it was unsafe but now it is much better even though they caution about showing off money or jewelry or expensive phones but still giving the impression that it is safe like major cities in Europe and North America. So people read these misleading articles and when they travel they feel they are as safe as home and start walking around after dark and alone and unprepared and hence fall victims. My posts are to counter those false assurances. Likely the German friend was a victim of those articles depicting Colombia now as relatively safe compare to past. Otherwise he must have been completely out of his mind otherwise to walk in red Light district in a country like Colombia at 1:15 am!You're like a broken record, repeating the same thing over and over.

Walk around Most anywhere in Manhattan at 1 am no problem, although I'd avoid the park. Walk around Queens, Brooklyn, or Harlem at 1 am and you're probably getting robbed. Walk around the Bronx and your funeral will be shortly after someone discovers your body.

Any major city has places you shouldn't go wandering around at night. Each city also has places that are fine at night, as long as you're not stupid. In Bogota (if you're not stupid) Parque 93 and Zona Rosa are fine day or night. However, if you start wandering around the dark back streets, you may find trouble.

RTFF. Everyone says "don't walk around Santa Fe at night. " "Taxi in, taxi out. " "Stick to the main, busy streets. " "Don't walk around alone. ".

Bogota is dangerous if you're stupid. Just like every major city. If you pay attention to the forum, if you don't do stupid things, you can successfully navigate Bogota with no problems.

[BaldeRojo]

So, I am considering a visit to Bogota. Would it be a safe bet to merely take a cab to your destination in Santa Fe, and take a cab from your casa / club whatever? I'm thinking the management of most establishments can call you a cab.

Note, that I have visited Medellin without any problems, but I understand its a different ball game in Bogota. I like to try different places with every trip I take and understand Bogota has a much wider variety of mongering options than Medellin, which is saying a lot. Heck, the exchange rate is awfully good right now.I've never had any major issues with a taxi in Bogota, however it's best to be smart as many have had issues. Yes, most decent establishments will call you a taxi, give you the license plate number and a code you give to them. Hailing a cab. Particularly in some of the shadier areas can be a problem that is best to just avoid. Uber is also a good bet or download the app Tapsi which also gives you some additional security.

[Sixty 9]

I stayed in B3 2 weeks ago, great little hotel. Roman behind bar daytime was telling me best places for girls. I had no problem bringing girls back in daytime. Nights are different you might have to pay.Thanks for ihe info. I think mostly I will bring girls at night para toda la noche (TLN).

Do you know how much you have to pay in B3 for a girl for a night?

[DragonJ045]

Hi,

I will arrive in BOG today.

How to contact you to talk about going somewhere?

Regards.I got in on Sat but haven't had a chance to go out. Would be awesome if we have a group to head out together!

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[Goblin345]

This guy clearly have never been to nice cities (E. G. , Singapore, Tokyo, Seoul, Havana-Cuba) . I've be careful to take his advice 'it's all good as long as you're not stupid'.


You're like a broken record, repeating the same thing over and over.

Walk around Most anywhere in Manhattan at 1 am no problem, although I'd avoid the park. Walk around Queens, Brooklyn, or Harlem at 1 am and you're probably getting robbed. Walk around the Bronx and your funeral will be shortly after someone discovers your body.

Any major city has places you shouldn't go wandering around at night. Each city also has places that are fine at night, as long as you're not stupid. In Bogota (if you're not stupid) Parque 93 and Zona Rosa are fine day or night. However, if you start wandering around the dark back streets, you may find trouble.

RTFF. Everyone says "don't walk around Santa Fe at night. " "Taxi in, taxi out. " "Stick to the main, busy streets. " "Don't walk around alone. ".

Bogota is dangerous if you're stupid. Just like every major city. If you pay attention to the forum, if you don't do stupid things, you can successfully navigate Bogota with no problems.

[Simba05]

Hi guys,

Another find on SA which I would like to share with you. A law student (actually I brought her to university next day, so yeah, its real) which just got into this world on a complete amateur level. She is definitely not a real escort so she needs a little bit of talking before getting to it. But what I got then was more than I could expect. Full submissive GFE like in my dreams. And the best: everything you see is real and natural! If interested, PM me for contact information.

[AddictedToWomen]

I've never had any major issues with a taxi in Bogota, however it's best to be smart as many have had issues. Yes, most decent establishments will call you a taxi, give you the license plate number and a code you give to them. Hailing a cab. Particularly in some of the shadier areas can be a problem that is best to just avoid. Uber is also a good bet or download the app Tapsi which also gives you some additional security.The code, regrettably, is not all it's cracked up to be. Its fixed -- the last 2 digits of the callers phone number. They did change it recently to a random number but I notice it's reverted so that was clearly too complicated for the good burghers of Bogotá. I think the code is designed to protect the taxi driver, and give the company some idea if the driver had actually picked up the right fare: it does sfa to protect the punter.

[Red Kilt]

Hi guys,

Another find on SA which I would like to share with you. A young law student (actually I brought her to university next day, so yeah, its real) which just got into this world on a complete amateur level. She is definitely not a real escort so she needs a little bit of talking before getting to it. But what I got then was more than I could expect. Full submissive GFE like in my dreams. And the best: everything you see is real and natural! If interested, PM me for contact information.That has to be the best gold standard photo ever seen on ISG (for me anyway).

What an extraordinary body. And real and natural too.

Pity I am on the other side of the Pacific Simba.

[Eszpresszo]

That has to be the best gold standard photo ever seen on ISG (for me anyway).

What an extraordinary body. And real and natural too.

Pity I am on the other side of the Pacific Simba.If you are on the other side of the Pacific, you hardly deserve any pity. You have my envy.

[Woodman09]

That has to be the best gold standard photo ever seen on ISG (for me anyway).

What an extraordinary body. And real and natural too.

Pity I am on the other side of the Pacific Simba.Love those country girls!

[Woodman09]

Hi guys,

Another find on SA which I would like to share with you. A young law student (actually I brought her to university next day, so yeah, its real) which just got into this world on a complete amateur level. She is definitely not a real escort so she needs a little bit of talking before getting to it. But what I got then was more than I could expect. Full submissive GFE like in my dreams. And the best: everything you see is real and natural! If interested, PM me for contact information.Nice High Beams!

[TrueScotsMan]

Hi guys,

Another find on SA which I would like to share with you. A young law student (actually I brought her to university next day, so yeah, its real) which just got into this world on a complete amateur level. She is definitely not a real escort so she needs a little bit of talking before getting to it. But what I got then was more than I could expect. Full submissive GFE like in my dreams. And the best: everything you see is real and natural! If interested, PM me for contact information.Very nice, thanks for sharing.

[CarolinasFan]

Heading to Bogota next week. Have read the forum a few times and have a couple questions regarding security that I am hoping someone can help with. I will write a detailed report upon return. My question is, would it be safe to take a taxi directly to pussyhouse or la 49 at night, enter the club, and leave directly by taxi? Also, would it be safe to take a taxi at night directly to troyas / fiebre in Santa Fe, enter club, and leave directly by taxi after? Could the bouncers at the clubs be trusted to call me a legit taxi? Will the clubs be busy or dead from Dec. 17th to 22nd as this is close to Christmas (do all the chicas go home for the holidays, etc). Lastly, and I know this is a matter of personal taste, but are the high end club girls really any prettier than the girls at the chapinero day brothels. I have read that some work in both places. I expect to have most of my free time during the day, and it looks like the high end clubs will be closed until 7 pm, so chapinero sounds like the best option. Would I really regret not going to the high places for a night or two? I have been to SXM multiple times (mostly spend time at hypnotic and Carolina's) and most of the great girls I met there are from Medellin or Bogota, I never thought to ask if / where they might have worked in Bogota, so I have no idea what to expect in terms of quality from Santa Fe, chapinero, high end clubs. Anyways, any thoughts are appreciated. I will be travelling around the city pretty frequently doing the touristy stuff, but if you are looking for a wing man or going to any of the clubs during the day let me know and I'd be happy to meet up.

[JjBee62]

Heading to Bogota next week. Have read the forum a few times and have a couple questions regarding security that I am hoping someone can help with. I will write a detailed report upon return. My question is, would it be safe to take a taxi directly to pussyhouse or la 49 at night, enter the club, and leave directly by taxi? Also, would it be safe to take a taxi at night directly to troyas / fiebre in Santa Fe, enter club, and leave directly by taxi after? Could the bouncers at the clubs be trusted to call me a legit taxi? Will the clubs be busy or dead from Dec. 17th to 22nd as this is close to Christmas (do all the chicas go home for the holidays, etc). Lastly, and I know this is a matter of personal taste, but are the high end club girls really any prettier than the girls at the chapinero day brothels. I have read that some work in both places. I expect to have most of my free time during the day, and it looks like the high end clubs will be closed until 7 pm, so chapinero sounds like the best option. Would I really regret not going to the high places for a night or two? I have been to SXM multiple times (mostly spend time at hypnotic and Carolina's) and most of the great girls I met there are from Medellin or Bogota, I never thought to ask if / where they might have worked in Bogota, so I have no idea what to expect in terms of quality from Santa Fe, chapinero, high end clubs. Anyways, any thoughts are appreciated. I will be travelling around the city pretty frequently doing the touristy stuff, but if you are looking for a wing man or going to any of the clubs during the day let me know and I'd be happy to meet up.In answer to your taxi question, all of the above, yes. At least I would feel safe doing that.

As for the other questions, hit up Chapinero first. If you're not satisfied with the looks, go north. If the looks are better than you expect, go south.

[Eszpresszo]

So, what other sidetrip or ventures out of the capitol can anyone recommend? Bogota sounds like a superb mongering destination, but it seems to have it limits to touristic value. I'm the kind of guy who likes adventuring to ancient ruins, visiting small colonial towns, etc. I'm not big on beaches or backpacking. But I could definitely have fun on the water, nonetheless. It would all be made the sweeter by the availability of poon for sale. I've always savored the idea of visiting some of the types of places listed above followed by some P4P action. Regretably, many places that have excellent P4P options are often at a lack for other things. Berlin is an exception. Lots of freelancers and old-school bordellos, with a lot to see and do. I spent 9 days there last year, but would have liked to have spent 3 weeks just checking out all things I was interested as well as indulging in all the P4P activity.

I have checked out short ventures from Medellin, a city which I think I have seen enough of. I also understand Barranquilla is the gateway to Santa Marta. And there are also options from Cartegena. I love coffee as my Hungarian screen name should suggest. I eventually want to visit coffee country just out of curiosity. I really want to see the coffee beans on the tree. But, I understand I will be in a place where P4P is not real obvious. Or no?

Feedback and suggestions please.

[AddictedToWomen]

So, what other sidetrip or ventures out of the capitol can anyone recommend? Bogota sounds like a superb mongering destination, but it seems to have it limits to touristic value. I'm the kind of guy who likes adventuring to ancient ruins, visiting small colonial towns, etc. I'm not big on beaches or backpacking. But I could definitely have fun on the water, nonetheless. It would all be made the sweeter by the availability of poon for sale. I've always savored the idea of visiting some of the types of places listed above followed by some P4P action. Regretably, many places that have excellent P4P options are often at a lack for other things. Berlin is an exception. Lots of freelancers and old-school bordellos, with a lot to see and do. I spent 9 days there last year, but would have liked to have spent 3 weeks just checking out all things I was interested as well as indulging in all the P4P activity.

I have checked out short ventures from Medellin, a city which I think I have seen enough of. I also understand Barranquilla is the gateway to Santa Marta. And there are also options from Cartegena. I love coffee as my Hungarian screen name should suggest. I eventually want to visit coffee country just out of curiosity. I really want to see the coffee beans on the tree. But, I understand I will be in a place where P4P is not real obvious. Or no?

Feedback and suggestions please.Loads on options in and around Bogotá. There's an extensive colonial Candelaria in town and when you tire of that, small towns within a short trip: Guatavita, areáquira, Zipaquirá, Villa de Leyva,. Check out http://thecolombianway.co/en/our-trips/day-trips.html for a bunch of other options.

[Woodman09]

So, what other sidetrip or ventures out of the capitol can anyone recommend? ...

Feedback and suggestions please.Locally in Bogota has many museums- Botero, money coin, Gold, police, military. More- All are Free accept Gold museum is free only on Sundays.

See the Palace of Justice (where Escobar attacked and killed many supreme court judges 1985) at Plaza Bolivar- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlgvObUciU4.

Also the presidential Palace is there-.

Many other famous landmarks. Hotel Taquendama where they held Escobar's wife, mom and kids-- as seen in Narcos.

Also Montserrat a church high above Bogota in the mountains. La Calera is an area in the mountains with lots of great restaurants.

[Corpo]

Has anyone had any experience or luck with semi-pro at any of the restaurants or bars around the Parque 93?

Maybe a certain time of the day or place they may visit before heading out to work?

[JjBee62]

Has anyone had any experience or luck with semi-pro at any of the restaurants or bars around the Parque 93?

Maybe a certain time of the day or place they may visit before heading out to work?I doubt you'll find any semi pros around, except later at night. During the day, except on weekends, it's fairly slow.

If you have the skills, (language, looks, charm and game) you may have some luck working the area at night, or possibly weekend afternoons when there's a band or some other entertainment in the park.

There used to be some who worked the area by Hotel Dann Carlton, on Calle 102, at night. Not sure if that's still a popular spot though.

[ACMilan84]

So, what other sidetrip or ventures out of the capitol can anyone recommend? Bogota sounds like a superb mongering destination, but it seems to have it limits to touristic value. I'm the kind of guy who likes adventuring to ancient ruins, visiting small colonial towns, etc. I'm not big on beaches or backpacking. But I could definitely have fun on the water, nonetheless. It would all be made the sweeter by the availability of poon for sale. I've always savored the idea of visiting some of the types of places listed above followed by some P4P action. Regretably, many places that have excellent P4P options are often at a lack for other things. Berlin is an exception. Lots of freelancers and old-school bordellos, with a lot to see and do. I spent 9 days there last year, but would have liked to have spent 3 weeks just checking out all things I was interested as well as indulging in all the P4P activity.I recommend you visit Tunja, an and in city just 3 hours by bus from Bogot. It has a very beautiful Plaza and many colonial building and churches. From there you can go to Villa de Leyva or, in the opposite direction, take a route through the mountains to the Lago de Tota, the largest lake in Colombia surrounded by many little colonial towns like Mongui and Aquitania. Tunja is also big enough to have some sort of mongering scene, although I don't have first hand infos because when I went there I brought with me a 20 yo university chica from Bogotá, who kept me busy.

[Eszpresszo]

Thanks for all the suggestions about sightseeing around Bogota. Obviously, I can tell I did not give the capitol enough credit for attractions within the city itself. But after investigating further, Tunja and Leyva seem real interesting as they seem very off the beaten path.

[Routard]

There used to be some who worked the area by Hotel Dann Carlton, on Calle 102, at night. Not sure if that's still a popular spot though.Yes, in that area there a stil some. Hard core street pros.

[Corpo]

Has anyone had any experience or luck with semi-pro at any of the restaurants or bars around the Parque 93?

Maybe a certain time of the day or place they may visit before heading out to work?How about the El Ritero area. Is there any particular bar / restaurant that semi-pros may hang before going to work or possibly after?

Or if anyone can recommend some other areas not mentioned here.

[JjBee62]

How about the El Ritero area. Is there any particular bar / restaurant that semi-pros may hang before going to work or possibly after?

Or if anyone can recommend some other areas not mentioned here.If don't think there is any place in Bogota where semi pros hangout, day or night. Pros, that's an easy one. Non-pros, also easy, but semi-pros there just isn't any place where they congregate. You can find them on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram. You can find them on the different dating websites, but finding them in a bar or mall isn't very likely.

[Bogota Visitor]

Everyone knows that Colombians speak Spanish but in all countries there is also a second language where people start learning starting with junior high school and up. English is the most common second language in the world followed by a distant second French. Now to my surprise in Colombia a relatively progressive country it appears nobody speak English! Or any other second language even those college and university graduates! I have been to Greece (everybody speaks English very well) and in Western Europe and even Eastern Europe and everyone is able to speak at least broken English even in middle east a high percentage speak English so what on earth is wrong with Colombians!

[Eszpresszo]

Everyone knows that Colombians speak Spanish but in all countries there is also a second language where people start learning starting with junior high school and up. English is the most common second language in the world followed by a distant second French. Now to my surprise in Colombia a relatively progressive country it appears nobody speak English! Or any other second language even those college and university graduates! I have been to Greece (everybody speaks English very well) and in Western Europe and even Eastern Europe and everyone is able to speak at least broken English even in middle east a high percentage speak English so what on earth is wrong with Colombians!Nothing wrong with them. They just happen to be Latin Americans, and Latin Americans typically don't speak good English, even when they move to the US. How many foreign languages do you speak on a conversational level?

[JjBee62]

Everyone knows that Colombians speak Spanish but in all countries there is also a second language where people start learning starting with junior high school and up. English is the most common second language in the world followed by a distant second French. Now to my surprise in Colombia a relatively progressive country it appears nobody speak English! Or any other second language even those college and university graduates! I have been to Greece (everybody speaks English very well) and in Western Europe and even Eastern Europe and everyone is able to speak at least broken English even in middle east a high percentage speak English so what on earth is wrong with Colombians!Nothing is wrong with Colombians. They speak Spanish. It's the 4th most popular language in the world, not far behind English. Why would you expect a country of nearly 50 million to learn English just to accommodate you?

All of their neighbors speak Spanish, except Brazil, which uses Portuguese. English is not considered a necessity.

Why don't Canadians speak Spanish? It's a much more common language than French (ranked 14th), it's a reasonably simple language with (mostly) consistent conjugation and many cognates, and outside the US and UK, many common Canadian vacation destinations are in Spanish speaking countries.

Why don't more Americans speak Spanish? We share a border with the biggest Spanish speaking population in the world.

Instead of complaining that Colombians don't speak much English (something you've been told more than once) why don't you learn some Spanish?

[Bogota Visitor]

Nothing is wrong with Colombians. They speak Spanish. It's the 4th most popular language in the world, not far behind English. Why would you expect a country of nearly 50 million to learn English just to accommodate you?

All of their neighbors speak Spanish, except Brazil, which uses Portuguese. English is not considered a necessity.

Why don't Canadians speak Spanish? It's a much more common language than French (ranked 14th), it's a reasonably simple language with (mostly) consistent conjugation and many cognates, and outside the US and UK, many common Canadian vacation destinations are in Spanish speaking countries.

Why don't more Americans speak Spanish? We share a border with the biggest Spanish speaking population in the world.

Instead of complaining that Colombians don't speak much English (something you've been told more than once) why don't you learn some Spanish?My point was that every country speaks a second language except Colombia. Canadians have a second language too and most speak French as second language (In English Canada) or English as second language (in French Canada). So for a two weeks trip to Colombia I learn Spanish huh?

[YippieKayay]

My point was that every country speaks a second language except Colombia. Canadians have a second language too and most speak French as second language (In English Canada) or English as second language (in French Canada). So for a two weeks trip to Colombia I learn Spanish huh?Are you serious? They don't teach English in public school in many Latin American countries so don't expect it. Also, why is it that YOU don't learn a second language, but they have to?

If it was your first time in Colombia why did you go for two weeks? Next time pick up a phrase book and learn from it. Even a little Spanish goes a long way. When you put no effort they won't either.

[Mr Enternational]

My point was that every country speaks a second language except Colombia. Canadians have a second language too and most speak French as second language (In English Canada) or English as second language (in French Canada). So for a two weeks trip to Colombia I learn Spanish huh?What second language do my fellow Americans speak? You must have not been many places if you believe what you wrote. So you think for a 2 week trip to your country someone from Colombia should have to learn English or should everybody have learned Spanish as one of their 2 languages before the person arrives?

[ShooBree]

There are Colombians who speak English, in the reception at my hotel, in the Airport and Colombians which I met in the clubs in the Zona Rosa.

And no, not every country speaks a second language. The US, UK, Australia to start with.

[Bogota Visitor]

Are you serious? They don't teach English in public school in many Latin American countries so don't expect it. Also, why is it that YOU don't learn a second language, but they have to?

If it was your first time in Colombia why did you go for two weeks? Next time pick up a phrase book and learn from it. Even a little Spanish goes a long way. When you put no effort they won't either.Actually I speak three languages (Spanish is not one of them unfortunately) and English is indeed my second language. Please find the facts before making a judgment.

I could get away from work only 2 weeks.

No in all countries that I have visited at least some of population speaks a second language (English being the second) even third world and they actually start teaching as second language in High School (I started in primary school when I was 6 years old). So it was a surprise to see that even educated people in Colombia don't speak a second language.

[JjBee62]

My point was that every country speaks a second language except Colombia. Canadians have a second language too and most speak French as second language (In English Canada) or English as second language (in French Canada). So for a two weeks trip to Colombia I learn Spanish huh?You need to get out more. Of the Canadians I deal with every week, in Ontario, not one speaks French. Most only speak English, unless they emigrated from another country. Of the Americans I've spent my whole life around, very few speak any language other than English. Once again, most exceptions are immigrants. Of the Mexicans I used to deal with, those who lived and worked closely to the US border, generally spoke some English, while those outside the border region spoke none.

And I thought it was only Americans who expect everyone else to learn English.

[Bogota Visitor]

You need to get out more. Of the Canadians I deal with every week, in Ontario, not one speaks French. Most only speak English, unless they emigrated from another country. Of the Americans I've spent my whole life around, very few speak any language other than English. Once again, most exceptions are immigrants. Of the Mexicans I used to deal with, those who lived and worked closely to the US border, generally spoke some English, while those outside the border region spoke none.

And I thought it was only Americans who expect everyone else to learn English.Not sure how factual this is. If you mean fluent French in Ontario you are right but almost everybody speaks broken French in Ontario as French is the second language they teach at high school in Canada, unless they are high school drop outs then at least they know a bit if French all over. In Montreal everyone speaks both languages. I don't know about Americans so I can't debate about that.

[Woodman09]

Everyone knows that Colombians speak Spanish but in all countries there is also a second language where people start learning starting with junior high school and up. English is the most common second language in the world followed by a distant second French. Now to my surprise in Colombia a relatively progressive country it appears nobody speak English! Or any other second language even those college and university graduates! I have been to Greece (everybody speaks English very well) and in Western Europe and even Eastern Europe and everyone is able to speak at least broken English even in middle east a high percentage speak English so what on earth is wrong with Colombians!Anyone who visits Latin AMerica, could have told you this- Same in all of South America and Mexico- Learn Spanish- I recommend Pimsleur conversational Spanish for English speakers.

[Bogota Visitor]

Anyone who visits Latin AMerica, could have told you this- Same in all of South America and Mexico- Learn Spanish- I recommend Pimsleur conversational Spanish for English speakers.Thanks but it would be too late to learn now as I will arrive in Bogota in 3 weeks. I must have super mind to learn a fourth language in just 3 weeks. I am using Google translation to learn some very needy Spanish like expressions to ladies (te gustaría bailar, eres muy bonita, eres lindo, hermosa, te amo.) but I don't even know how to order food for one (for home delivery as I won't venture out after dark). I hope I come back in one piece and without starvation.

I am also trying to find a home country (so that it is not so damn cold) for retirement in 10 years. Greece was not where I like to live nor UK but France maybe but Paris is very expensive. With my retirement income I can live like a king in Bogota (though just middle class in Canada) so it is an ideal place. So now you guys know my purpose for the trip. Not sex or escorts (as you have been asking me why I am here if I don't want to have sex).

I also like to thank all you guys for help and advice you have given me. JjBee and others thank you so much (macho gracias).

[JjBee62]

Anyone who visits Latin AMerica, could have told you this- Same in all of South America and Mexico- Learn Spanish- I recommend Pimsleur conversational Spanish for English speakers.He was already told this week's ago, but taking advice isn't high on his priority list. It only takes a few hours to pick up numbers, greetings, basic questions and a few useful phrases. Combined with a translation app, it's enough for most.

[JjBee62]

Not sure how factual this is. If you mean fluent French in Ontario you are right but almost everybody speaks broken French in Ontario as French is the second language they teach at high school in Canada, unless they are high school drop outs then at least they know a bit if French all over. In Montreal everyone speaks both languages. I don't know about Americans so I can't debate about that.In Montreal everyone doesn't speak both languages. I've had several phone conversations, arranging international shipments, where the resident English speaker had to be tracked down. And there are certainly people who've moved to Montreal without ever learning French. As for Ontario, taking a class in high school, doesn't automatically equal speaking the language.

[KainNYC]

Looking for some new friends to meet up, with. Ill be in Medellin, and Bogotá next month.

[Eszpresszo]

In Montreal everyone doesn't speak both languages. I've had several phone conversations, arranging international shipments, where the resident English speaker had to be tracked down. And there are certainly people who've moved to Montreal without ever learning French. As for Ontario, taking a class in high school, doesn't automatically equal speaking the language.No Canadians that I've ever met, who came from any province west of Ontario can speak French. They all confess to learning some in school. But, they all admit they forgot it rather quickly and have no use for it nor any use for French-speaking Canadians. These are serious Anglophones, I tell you, and I am not about to argue with them.

[Corpo]

Anyone been to Lido recently? Any opinions or comparisons to Bar Zhivago?