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Rodeo9112
12-04-17, 05:00
Hey,

Did Hooters move from Calle 85 to Zona T? I noticed a change on Google Maps.

JjBee62
12-04-17, 06:38
Can anyone confirm that you can stay in Colombia for up to 60 days without paying a tax?I don't think that's possible. Every time you eat a meal you are going to pay a tax. Are you talking about the hotel tax that residents pay? As long as you haven't been in the country for more than 90 days you don't have to pay that tax.

Woodman09
12-05-17, 01:33
I don't think that's possible. Every time you eat a meal you are going to pay a tax. Are you talking about the hotel tax that residents pay? As long as you haven't been in the country for more than 90 days you don't have to pay that tax.You have an exit tax which is usually already paid in your ticket. If you stay past 90 days you must go to Immigration and apply for a 90 day extension and pay a fee.

Alliwantislove
12-05-17, 18:26
I don't recall anyone here ever posting any information about any specific chica on SeekingArrangement. I can understand why we might not want to post positive reviews. I think that most girls on SA are trying to maintain plausible deniability. So I wouldn't want to out a girl who had provided good service. But what about the girls who have screwed you (in a bad way)?

I've been stood up twice by SA girls here in Bogotá. Since they didn't show up there was no sex and therefore publishing the name they use on SA certainly does not out them as a hooker. But a different type of negative report (she only rimmed me for 20 seconds and only allowed one pop) clearly outs the girl as a puta. I don't have a lot of sympathy for girls who expect money for lousy sex but I guess I still have some.

Of course guys seeing negative reports might not think about the plausible deniability angle and post a positive review which would clearly reveal that the girl was selling sex.

Just wondering what the mongering membership here thinks about all this.

JjBee62
12-05-17, 22:48
I don't recall anyone here ever posting any information about any specific chica on SeekingArrangement. I can understand why we might not want to post positive reviews. I think that most girls on SA are trying to maintain plausible deniability. So I wouldn't want to out a girl who had provided good service. But what about the girls who have screwed you (in a bad way)?

I've been stood up twice by SA girls here in Bogot. Since they didn't show up there was no sex and therefore publishing the name they use on SA certainly does not out them as a hooker. But a different type of negative report (she only rimmed me for 20 seconds and only allowed one pop) clearly outs the girl as a puta. I don't have a lot of sympathy for girls who expect money for lousy sex but I guess I still have some.

Of course guys seeing negative reports might not think about the plausible deniability angle and post a positive review which would clearly reveal that the girl was selling sex.

Just wondering what the mongering membership here thinks about all this.If everyone posted a review identifying girls that didn't show, we would have 200 reports a day that just read "xx didn't show up."

Women, especially Colombian women are notorious for not showing up or showing up very late. You're not going to change that. In addition, if you're not reporting about the girls providing good service and the girls providing bad service, you're wasting everyone's time.

"I went to Bogota and stayed at xx hotel. These are the girls I didn't meet and know nothing about because they didn't show up; a, be, see."

Jbj64
12-06-17, 02:27
I was just in Bogotá last week met with a university chica named Valentina, she is a scammer. I offered money for her to show me the city and to go to my hotel afterwards. Long story short, after dinner 100 k, she made it clear she was going home, not to my hotel. She wanted the full amount that I had said clearly was for a day tour and hotel room after. I paid her half and left in my taxi. She did not want me to give her the money at the table inside the restaurant but at this point I knew I had nothing to lose. Sorry I deleted her pic she sent me so I can't post. Seems better to either get a guide OR find a girl for sex and not mix the two. I am still learning. I will post an update on my SA girl in Medellin soon, not good.


I don't recall anyone here ever posting any information about any specific chica on SeekingArrangement. I can understand why we might not want to post positive reviews. I think that most girls on SA are trying to maintain plausible deniability. So I wouldn't want to out a girl who had provided good service. But what about the girls who have screwed you (in a bad way)?

I've been stood up twice by SA girls here in Bogot. Since they didn't show up there was no sex and therefore publishing the name they use on SA certainly does not out them as a hooker. But a different type of negative report (she only rimmed me for 20 seconds and only allowed one pop) clearly outs the girl as a puta. I don't have a lot of sympathy for girls who expect money for lousy sex but I guess I still have some.

Of course guys seeing negative reports might not think about the plausible deniability angle and post a positive review which would clearly reveal that the girl was selling sex.

Just wondering what the mongering membership here thinks about all this.

StripperMan
12-06-17, 04:09
I just picked up a Verizon prepaid Samsung J3 here in the USA For $99 +tax. The good news is I'll be able to get 600+ mil COP in chica capital for it. I plan to give it to a Santa Fe chica I know, and in turn she will give me two all-night. Well, that's the plan anyways.

The bad news seems to be that the phone will not work in Colombia as only GSM based SIM cards work there apparently. Verizon phones run on CDMA. So I may have to return the phone unless somehow it actually will work there?

**this Verizon J3 is not a "world phone".

Woodman09
12-06-17, 19:08
I have been going to Santa Fe for the last 4 nights.

Prices in Paisas, Fiebre, Troya, Lion are generally 70-90 mil. Super quality-- great selection.

Lower price clubs like Venus, California, Punto de Oro are $40-60 mil, street girls 35-60 mil. Super quality- great selection.

Street girls in the cheaper area of SF 25-35 mil.

Oil Stain
12-07-17, 02:02
I have been going to Santa Fe for the last 4 nights.

Prices in Paisas, Fiebre, Troya, Lion are generally 70-90 mil. Super quality-- great selection.

Lower price clubs like Venus, California, Punto de Oro are $40-60 mil, street girls 35-60 mil. Super quality- great selection.

Street girls in the cheaper area of SF 25-35 mil.Lots of lookers in SF. It is the season of gift giving and receiving. Please Woodman don't tease us with any photos. Oil.

KangarooTed
12-07-17, 11:54
I just picked up a Verizon prepaid Samsung J3 here in the USA For $99 +tax. The good news is I'll be able to get 600+ mil COP in chica capital for it. I plan to give it to a Santa Fe chica I know, and in turn she will give me two all-night. Well, that's the plan anyways.

The bad news seems to be that the phone will not work in Colombia as only GSM based SIM cards work there apparently. Verizon phones run on CDMA. So I may have to return the phone unless somehow it actually will work there?

**this Verizon J3 is not a "world phone".You need an unlocked phone I think. The J3 has the capability, it's just that you have it locked to a network:

J3 Unlocked:

Infra.

2 G GSM, 3 G WCDMA, 4 G LTE FDD, 4 G LTE TDD.

2 G GSM.

GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900.

3 G UMTS.

B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B5 (850), B8 (900).

If I'm wrong please correct me as I have a shitload of these phones I was going to bring, unlocked.

PirateMorgan
12-07-17, 15:02
You can buy the J2 for less than $99 here in Bogota. With no 'unlock' problems. Don't bring the phones. Too much trouble to unlock. Been there. Done that. And no import problems in case you were searched at the airport (unlikely).

GreatGuy1234
12-07-17, 20:15
I checked out spa Tantras.

Cra. 20 a #72-30.

In retrospect going there was a mistake. The place wasn't that bad, but sitting in the brutal midday traffic for an hour in the taxi was the real problem. Also I am pretty sure the taxi driver ripped me off like 4 k. Whatever. So I get in there and they parade maybe 8 or 9 chicas in front of me. I picked a 20 yr old Venezuelan girl and paid 60 k for 40 minutes. She was quite attractive and petite. The service was nothing to write home about, CBJ, sex and then followed by a message. No kissing and she didn't like me touching her breasts. She was very attractive though. Tatiana was her name but if I could do it over again I would probably pick one of the other girls. At least we did bond and talk a bit afterwards so that was nice. The rooms are hilarious, just tiny little chubby holes with a bed. The couple next door were really going at it, so props to them I guess.

There is a strip club in Fontibon near my hotel so I will probably check that out tonight.

My hotel is great BTW. It is called Hotel Los Balcones and is 40 k a night. I think they are chica friendly, most low budget places are. I haven't brought any girls back yet but one of the fellow patrons was accompanied by what certainly appeared to be a puta. Anyway the hotel is solid, flat screen TV, WiFi works in the room and is very good (had to move from the 5th floor to the 3rd floor though because while the WiFi worked for the first two days on the 5th floor it stopped working after that, haven't had any trouble on the 3rd floor). It's a nice area with lots of cheap restaurants. The only thing is it is a little away from the action. Relatively close to the airport as well.

Gbawekanu
12-07-17, 21:33
I have been going to Santa Fe for the last 4 nights.

Prices in Paisas, Fiebre, Troya, Lion are generally 70-90 mil. Super quality-- great selection.

Lower price clubs like Venus, California, Punto de Oro are $40-60 mil, street girls 35-60 mil. Super quality- great selection.

Street girls in the cheaper area of SF 25-35 mil.Are those prices per hour Woodman?

StripperMan
12-08-17, 02:10
You need an unlocked phone I think. The J3 has the capability, it's just that you have it locked to a network:

J3 Unlocked:

Infra.

2 G GSM, 3 G WCDMA, 4 G LTE FDD, 4 G LTE TDD.

2 G GSM.

GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900.

3 G UMTS.

B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B5 (850), B8 (900).

If I'm wrong please correct me as I have a shitload of these phones I was going to bring, unlocked.I believe you are correct, and thanks for your post. What you are saying actually supports my most recent research. The Samsung J7 is built with the capability to use either GSM or CDMA. It's just that Verizon blocks it to CDMA-only in the states. After you unlock it, the J7 will work on standard GSM networks just fine. **made a typo in my original post, bought the J7 not J3.

Also, my research indicates that the Samsungs are pretty easy to unlock and only cost about 50-60 mil to do so. This price is inline with what it costs in the DR & Mexico. My chica friend is already lined up to unlock the phone the same day I give it to her.

Routard
12-08-17, 14:22
My hotel is great BTW. It is called Hotel Los Balcones and is 40 k a night. I think they are chica friendly, most low budget places are. I haven't brought any girls back yet but one of the fellow patrons was accompanied by what certainly appeared to be a puta. Anyway the hotel is solid, flat screen TV, WiFi works in the room and is very good (had to move from the 5th floor to the 3rd floor though because while the WiFi worked for the first two days on the 5th floor it stopped working after that, haven't had any trouble on the 3rd floor). It's a nice area with lots of cheap restaurants. The only thing is it is a little away from the action. Relatively close to the airport as well.I really don't recomend Fontibon. It's an industrial area far from any action.

Stinger
12-12-17, 02:03
I went to the Mezzanine today for the first time ever and found a true gem. I went to the backside, second to last door, and wasn't impressed, so I then went to the third to last door- and there she was. A 21 year old white cutie from Venezuela. She said she is leaving in a week to go back home. She had her brown hair in a shoulder length bob and a beautiful face and killer smile. 5-6 or 5-7, be cup, and not an ounce of fat on her. It is 80 for 30 minutes and it included a nice massage and completo. She wanted to keep kissing me and seemed to really enjoy it. Her awesome attitude made up for the fact that the session is in a tiny, but clean, room, with only a massage table (in the last door- I think it says 9 on it.) I am sad I won't be back in time to see her before she leaves.

Bango Cheito
12-12-17, 11:03
I really don't recomend Fontibon. It's an industrial area far from any action.Not true. There is actually plenty of action IN Fontibon. There's one great spot right on the main drag,(cra 100) but the name escapes me. It's not hidden though; it's a second floor.

Just as an aside, now that Bogota is flooded with Venezuelan girls, prices have gone down some. If you were paying 60 k before, negotiate for 40-50 k.

World Travel 69
12-12-17, 14:47
Also it looks there are 5 or so casinos in the Fontibon area. As is this love Motel / Hotel:

Loveres Paradise Royal

Carrera 102 # 17 A - 51, Fontibon Centro https://www.facebook.com/Leveres-Paradis-Royal-638815122874030/.


Not true. There is actually plenty of action IN Fontibon. There's one great spot right on the main drag,(cra 100) but the name escapes me. It's not hidden though; it's a second floor.

Just as an aside, now that Bogota is flooded with Venezuelan girls, prices have gone down some. If you were paying 60 k before, negotiate for 40-50 k.

GreatGuy1234
12-13-17, 00:07
All of the casinos in Fontibon are just small ones with slot machines and electronic roulette not really worth going to imo.

There is a place in Fontibon with chicas. It is on the second floor of calle #17 around carerra #100, but they charged me 14 k for a water and the ***** waitress stole my change from a 20 k note so I haven't returned. There are a bunch of guys on the street that will cajole you to enter the bars. There are actually two bars side by side, with a chicken place downstairs, the other one only charged me 5 k for a water.

Routard
12-13-17, 23:34
Not true. There is actually plenty of action IN Fontibon. There's one great spot right on the main drag,(cra 100) but the name escapes me. It's not hidden though; it's a second floor.
Yep, I have visited it once, it's on my FAQ: Disco bar Colombianitas Carrera 100#20C-04. Open daily except Monday from 6 pm till 3 am. No cover, strip show, 30 girls. Pricing is 70 000/20 min. But that is it, still not a reason to stay in Fontibon. IMHO. Except if you are in Bogota for other reasons than mongering, best place to stay is Zona Norte if you want confort and safety or Chapinero if you are on budget.

World Travel 69
12-14-17, 00:42
On the map that address shows up as Club Social Privado Samarkanda. But the street photo has a different name.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.675853144783897%2C-74.14226457860735&z=22


Yep, I have visited it once, it's on my FAQ: Disco bar Colombianitas Carrera 100#20C-04. Open daily except Monday from 6 pm till 3 am. No cover, strip show, 30 girls. Pricing is 70 000/20 min. But that is it, still not a reason to stay in Fontibon. IMHO. Except if you are in Bogota for other reasons than mongering, best place to stay is Zona Norte if you want confort and safety or Chapinero if you are on budget.

Routard
12-14-17, 14:08
On the map that address shows up as Club Social Privado Samarkanda. But the street photo has a different name.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.675853144783897%2C-74.14226457860735&z=22It's definitely not Club Social Privado. The sign of googlemap is still existing, but Colombianitas is the name on their presentation cards.

Kazeu
12-18-17, 22:54
I was interested in a cheaper hotel near santa fe as well. Is Oceana Confort chica friendly? Does it have a visitor fee?


I stay at the Oceana Comfort sometimes. It is a great hotel at a relatively cheap price. Free breakfast and a short walk to Santa Fe. I just wish their shower was bigger. They only have 1 elevator. One time it went out and our room was on the 10th floor. My girl finally decided to take the stairs. I stayed my happy ass on the couch in the lobby until it got fixed.

Woodman09
12-19-17, 01:37
I was interested in a cheaper hotel near santa fe as well. Is Oceana Confort chica friendly? Does it have a visitor fee?Actually that area going south on 13th there are several cheaper hotels around about 8 or 10+.

There are 3 right near a police substation-- at 13th and 23 d.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cl.+23,+Bogot%C3%A1/ at 4. 6105687,-74.0739271,219 m / data=!3 m1!1 e3!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x8 e3 f999 eed391 acb:0 xa2 a3212 c069 d7 ceb!8 m2!3 d4. 6104992!4 d-74.0732504.

BigDude1
12-19-17, 22:57
Has anyone tried Seekingarrangment.com for Bogota? Does it work? Lots of good looking girls there.

AlexStone
12-20-17, 19:46
I am travelling next week to Bogota. I have basic tourist language skills in Spanish, but I don't have much vocabulary for negotiating with girls about their services and so on. I would be thus very grateful if some one could tell most relevant phrases for having the negotiation with the girls in the clubs and street (discussion with girls goes always with the same phrases and basic questions, so that would help me a lot).

P.S. Been here at least ten years, but I have not been posting a lot so I forgot my username and password. Just created a new one.

Routard
12-21-17, 00:51
I am travelling next week to Bogota. I have basic tourist language skills in Spanish, but I don't have much vocabulary for negotiating with girls about their services and so on. I would be thus very grateful if some one could tell most relevant phrases for having the negotiation with the girls in the clubs and street (discussion with girls goes always with the same phrases and basic questions, so that would help me a lot).

P.S. Been here at least ten years, but I have not been posting a lot so I forgot my username and password. Just created a new one.The vocabulary doesn't matter, with poor spanish you will have the gringo rate. I would rather suggest to visit the places where you don't need to negotiate as you pay the house, not the girl. Avoid the high end clubs in north Bogota, for all others brothels in Chapinero or Santa Fe, you will be fine.

PaisaPorFavor
12-21-17, 06:03
The vocabulary doesn't matter, with poor spanish you will have the gringo rate. I would rather suggest to visit the places where you don't need to negotiate as you pay the house, not the girl. Avoid the high end clubs in north Bogota, for all others brothels in Chapinero or Santa Fe, you will be fine.Although I concede you are a legend around here the vocab does matter. I have poor Spanish but learned enough from this board to negotiate the going rate. I too would like to see a list of common phrases used. I'm not too picky with what comes with 30,000 cop but wouldn't mind more knowledge.

Routard
12-22-17, 15:57
Although I concede you are a legend around here the vocab does matter. I have poor Spanish but learned enough from this board to negotiate the going rate. I too would like to see a list of common phrases used. I'm not too picky with what comes with 30,000 cop but wouldn't mind more knowledge.You are right, I was not very helpful with my coment. Il will try to refrase it again. What I meant is that it for example a fluent speaking Spanish tourist will have the gringo rate simply because girls now he has incomes in euro and his standards of what is expensive and what is cheap is on European standards. I am living here, I don't need to have any negotiating skills, girls just give me the local price. It doesn't matter if I'm rich or poor in Colombia, I'm used to pay 3 $ for my lunch and anything above seems expensive to me. I'm tall and blonde, but I don't need to speak for people to know that I'm living here, they just know if from my attitude. Colombians in the street ask directions to me when they are lost, people ask to flash my cedula, not my passport and the first question Colombians usually pop to me is how long I'm living here, not where I come from.

My point is that if you want to have the local price with a girl, 99% is attitude and 1% is what you might say. Try to act and look as if you are living here. First one is dress code. Typical mistake of any tourist in a poorer country is try to dress poor believing it's the best way to mix with the people. It's the opposite. A gringo living in Colombia no matter his incomes is classified as strato 6. A gringo who is working in Colombia has to adapt himself on local dress code. And local dress code for a strato 6 is definitely not a T shirt, an old jean, a short, sandals or a cap. Dress smart, especially shoes, it's probably the first thing people will notice. The next thing people look are you're your hands and men in Colombia are used to do manicure. You need to be shaved and have a fresh haircut. Remember, Colombians are Latinos and Latinos dress smart and take great care of how they look. Yes, I know, most people would believe it would be better to look poor to negotiate price with a girl in Colombia, but it's the opposite.

Another one is attitude. When I Travelled to Colombia as a tourist I had always a huge smile, everything looked so great and any Colombiana looked sexy to me. I was so relaxed, was on vacation without any problem and could afford anything with my euros. I'm now living here, have a company, am struggling everyday with administration, employees, clients, providers ro my bank. I see everyday Colombianas, I got used to it. So of course you can read it on my face that I'm living and working in Colombia. Just try to remember it if you try to look as a gringo who is living here.

Now, I don't want to escape the question, here is it what you might say to negotiate price:

- Hola nena, como estas?

- Bien y tu?

- Como te llamas?

- Me llamo Carolina y tu?

- Mucho gusto Carolina, yo soy Routard. Oye, cuanto cobrarias para pasar un rato?

- Mi amor, el precio es de 60 000 en la habitacion.

- A bueno! y que tal para toda la noche?

- Mi amor, para toda la noche yo cobro 500 000.

- No, es demasiado. Mira, ya son las 2, el lugar va a cerrar y vas a terminar de todas modas. Lo vamos a pasar chevere los dos. 300 000 te parece?

- Ah, mi amor, tengo hijos, mi papa es enfermo, necesito la plata etc. 400 000.

- Listo para 400 000, pero hasta el desayuno. Estamos de acuerdo?

- Listo mi amor, vamonos.

PaisaPorFavor
12-22-17, 16:53
Thanks for the information. I was just reading another of your posts about picking up non pros. Great information there too!

Alliwantislove
12-22-17, 20:37
Has anyone tried Seekingarrangment.com for Bogota? Does it work? Lots of good looking girls there.Yes.

First of all it's expensive. $80 per month for a Premium membership which you need in order to exchange messages with the girls. It would be interesting to see if you could get away with putting your WhatsApp in your profile (free memberships have a profile) but I don't think SA would let you get away with that.

A lot of attractive girls and in my experience the photos are not photoshopped.

SA makes very clear that they are not providing any pimping services. That makes it tough to decide how explicit you can be in your profile. So the trick I think is to find somewhat vague terminology to put in your profile and hope that the girls are reading between the lines. Things like you are looking for intimate companionship, or physical romance, a date with benefits, an instant / temporary girlfriend, etc. But if you crossed a line I don't know if SA would tell you to change your profile or cancel your membership.

As soon as a girl indicated any interest I would ask for her WhatsApp and then via WhatsApp messages be precise about the services I was looking for. Time consuming since my Spanish is pretty poor.

Of 6 dates I had setup: One girl in Bogota (she use the handle Crysstall) never showed up. No warning that she wouldn't be showing up. No explanation. No apology. Another girl in Bogota (she uses the handle Yulyxxx) sent me a WhatsApp two hours after our date and said that she would be leaving shortly. But I knew that she lived an hour away. I was pissed and told her not to bother.

In Medellin one girl showed up on time and was very attractive and provided great service. But she was a real lush and if I ever have her pay me another visit I will make sure that I have very little alcohol around. Another girl in Medellin also showed up on time and was also very attractive and also provided great service. Besides paying her well I paid for her taxi home. But when I scheduled another appointment with her two days later she never showed up. No message to let me know that she couldn't make it. No explanation. No apology. I scheduled an appointment with a third girl in Medellin who sent me a message just around the time she was to show up saying that she had decided that she's not that kind of girl. But there was nothing in her profile to suggest that she was offering P4 P so I blame myself for that one.

In Cartagena I had only one appointment which was so-so. She showed up a little late. Knew how to handle my cojones but does not know how to handle a dick. No OWO but I did not indicate that I wanted that. SA seemed to have many fewer girls in or near Cartagena than Bogot and Medelland.

Bottom line. I don't know if I will continue to use it.

AlexStone
12-22-17, 22:07
You are right, I was not very helpful with my coment. Il will try to refrase it again. What I meant is that it for example a fluent speaking Spanish tourist will have the gringo rate simply because girls now he has incomes in euro and his standards of what is expensive and what is cheap is on European standards. I am living here, I don't need to have any negotiating skills, girls just give me the local price. It doesn't matter if I'm rich or poor in Colombia, I'm used to pay 3 $ for my lunch and anything above seems expensive to me. I'm tall and blonde, but I don't need to speak for people to know that I'm living here, they just know if from my attitude. Colombians in the street ask directions to me when they are lost, people ask to flash my cedula, not my passport and the first question Colombians usually pop to me is how long I'm living here, not where I come from..Thanks Routard for your thorough answer! Good information, but actually my question was much more simple: what is BBBJ / COF / Anal / etc in Spanish (used by Colombian girls) and what are the must questions for the girls. I mean that in different countries especially SWs have different tricks they always do and it is good to point out that you know it and ask them (E. G. In some places girls don't fully undress if you don't require it beforehand). I was thinking if there is anything like that what is good to know (and how to say that in Spanish) before going fist time to clubs etc in Bogota.

World Travel 69
12-23-17, 15:13
Look above in the blue area.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations


Thanks Routard for your thorough answer! Good information, but actually my question was much more simple: what is BBBJ / COF / Anal / etc in Spanish (used by Colombian girls) and what are the must questions for the girls. I mean that in different countries especially SWs have different tricks they always do and it is good to point out that you know it and ask them (E. G. In some places girls don't fully undress if you don't require it beforehand). I was thinking if there is anything like that what is good to know (and how to say that in Spanish) before going fist time to clubs etc in Bogota.

JjBee62
12-23-17, 17:35
Thanks Routard for your thorough answer! Good information, but actually my question was much more simple: what is BBBJ / COF / Anal / etc in Spanish (used by Colombian girls) and what are the must questions for the girls. I mean that in different countries especially SWs have different tricks they always do and it is good to point out that you know it and ask them (E. G. In some places girls don't fully undress if you don't require it beforehand). I was thinking if there is anything like that what is good to know (and how to say that in Spanish) before going fist time to clubs etc in Bogota.I've never had an issue with any of these things. Maybe because I don't follow any set routine with the girls and don't do anal. Completely naked is a given. Chances are, any one who insists on keeping clothes on probably is hiding the vagina installation surgery. To me, if you have a checklist, then you're just paying for a sex doll. It's completely mechanical.

I never discuss the details before. In the room I guide them in the direction I want and 9 of 10 are no problem. Even if I don't get everything, it usually works out that I'm happy with the results.

If anal, COF or CIM is a requirement, you'll have less success. If BBBJ or BBFS is necessary you'll also hit more snags. This is especially true in casas and strip clubs.

A few phrases:

En tu boca. In your mouth.

En tu cara. On your face (you'll find a lot of resistance).

En tus senos. On your breasts.

Sexo En tu cola. Sex in your butt. (If there's confusion ano = anus).

Sin condon or natural. Without condom. Emphasize the syllables, na tu ral.

Before someone restarts the "my Spanish is better than your Spanish" debate, these are all simple phrases all girls will understand.

Vatore007
12-26-17, 11:59
I've never had an issue with any of these things. Maybe because I don't follow any set routine with the girls and don't do anal. Completely naked is a given. Chances are, any one who insists on keeping clothes on probably is hiding the vagina installation surgery. To me, if you have a checklist, then you're just paying for a sex doll. It's completely mechanical.

I never discuss the details before. In the room I guide them in the direction I want and 9 of 10 are no problem. Even if I don't get everything, it usually works out that I'm happy with the results.

If anal, COF or CIM is a requirement, you'll have less success. If BBBJ or BBFS is necessary you'll also hit more snags. This is especially true in casas and strip clubs.

A few phrases:

En tu boca. In your mouth..How do I ask "Can I cum in your pussy".

Vatore007
12-26-17, 12:00
Is there a Bogota map around here like the Medellin one?

WindAngel
12-26-17, 17:32
How do I ask "Can I cum in your pussy".Not sure what you mean but guess based on JBee62's answer. I will say.

Sexo sin condom.

Sexo natural.

JjBee62
12-26-17, 18:46
Is there a Bogota map around here like the Medellin one?Yes. Scroll down to the Bogota Lists thread.

Routard
12-27-17, 14:43
How do I ask "Can I cum in your pussy".Puedo terminar adentro.

EscapeArtist
12-28-17, 03:44
Has anyone tried Seekingarrangment.com for Bogota? Does it work? Lots of good looking girls there.It works fabulously. Yes the 80 dollar membership is expensive compared to other sites. But I've never had issues. Always found what I'm looking for in a matter of 24 hours. It also works for Peru, Panama, and I've used it for Dom Rep. Although I should point out I've only used it on girls seeking a monthly allowance versus pay for play. Most girls you come in contact with are semi pros or non pros.

Gbawekanu
12-31-17, 15:52
I was in Bogota between December 19 and December 23 and also on December 26.

December 19.

I landed in Bogota from Caracas around 7 pm, a friend of mine told me there was a Gringo night every Tuesday at La Villa in Zona T, where local Colombian women try to pick up Gringos.

I quickly freshened up and off I went to La Villa, I got there around 9 pm, the doorman checked my ID and let me in.

The quality of the girls inside was okish and I broke the ice with 2 girls standing at the bar, they were Americans, certainly not what I am looking for in Bogota. I later saw a stunning paisa girl, but she brushed me off saying she was there with her "friend".

About 10 minutes later, I went to the bar to get a drink, I enquired about the prices and discovered I could get a bottle of Jack Daniel for 175000, I ordered one bottle of JD and as soon as I turned around after taking my drink from the bar, the paisa girl was right in front of me smiling and asking if I wanted to dance, I was like "sure, why not", and we went upstairs and started dancing and drinking together.

Our dance got naughtier as time went by as we starting grinding, touching her breasts in the club and I was loving Colombia.

A while later, her friend came around and they spoke some words in Spanish and later she asked me if I would like to dance with her friend also. I said yes, then I began switching between both of the girls.

The paisa girl later told me if I wanted to take them to my apartment, after saying yes, she said I would have to pay them, I asked her "Cuanto es" and she said 700000 for both of them, I countered with 500000, she spoke some words in Spanish to her friends and said nothing to me. We continued dancing and grinding and I felt like I was on top of the world, she started giving her drink to drink, her drink tasted very different from the JD and coke that I bought, but I kept drinking her drinks regardless. After a while, they suggested we should all be going to my apartment and we left the club. Outside the club, they started demanding for their money, even though I had some money on me, I told them I had no cash and that all my money was in my card, we hailed a taxi and they started telling the taxi drive to take us to a "Cajero". I tried to assure them that I would give them the money in my apartment, but they insisted the driver take us to a ATM, I was very unusually weak to argue against them, when we got to a ATM, I withdrew 600000, and gave it to them and told them that was the limit on my card. They collected the money and told me they are not going to follow me home because I have not paid them their full money. They told the taxi to drop them at a junction and they left. I was so weak, I could not even ask them for my money back, I just told the taxi driver to take me to my apartment.

December 20.

I woke up with a nasty headache and hangover and started remembering what happened the previous night, I could not imagine what happened the previous night happening to me.

I called my friend up and told me about what happened and he said they must have probably spiked my drink and that if I should go out alone in Bogota as a foreigner, I should not drink.

In the evening, I went to Santa Fe with my friend and had a blast, we first went to a place where there were only Venezuelan girls, Bar California I think it is called. I took a 19 year old Venezuelan upsatairs for 40,000.

We later went to Troja, Paisas, Fiebre and some other clubs across the street, I sessioned with a girl at Troja, but the service was nothing to write home about. The girl was a negra girl who had the one of the biggest natural bubble butt I have ever seen, I should have known by her very cold attitude, but her ass was legendary. After the clubs closed at 4 am, I was looking for a girl to take back to my apartment. I found a 20 year old Venezuelan girl who spoke fluent English on the street. My friend was able to negotiate with her for 100,000 TLN. She said I needed to buy her some stuff before we go to my apartment, I gave her 10 mil and she got her stuff. She told me she hadn't slept for 3 days. She was just smoking weed and doing stuff when we got to the apartment and started telling me the 100,000 was for one hour and she wanted more money for everything. I got pissed at this point and just banged her and gave her 100,000 and told her to leave.

December 21.

My friend was not available this evening, so I decided to check out Pussy House, since I was only staying a few blocks away in Calle 60, I tried to walk there from my apartment but got lost along the way, the way the Calles and Carreras work is still very confusing to me. I ended up taking a taxi and there were about 13-15 girls working. I bought a half-bottle of aguardiente and watch the cattles walk by. I met a Paisa girl named Gisel, and invited her to my table. I negotiated with her to take her back to my apartment.

Gisel stayed over until 11:00 am the following day.

December 22.

I went with my friend back to a few strip clubs in Calle 49, nothing that I really liked, so I suggested that we head over to Santa Fe again, this time we mostly stayed at Fiebre as they had better looking girls this night. I was able to negotiate with Julianna at this club for TLN back at my apartment after the club closed. She gave the best service out of all the girls I met in Colombia.

Julianna left around 8 am and I quickly got ready to catch my flight to Medellin at 12.

December 26.

I was supposed to fly back to Europe today and my flight was scheduled for 10 pm from Bogota. I arrived at Bogota airport from Medellin around 4:30 pm and I thought I have a few hours to burn. I called my friend and we agreed to meet at Santa Fe in 45 minutes, I paid for the secure storage to store my luggage at the hotel. At Santa Fe, we quickly went to Troja where I sessioned with Natalia, the lady with the blue hair, afterwards we went to Fiebre and had a goodbye session with Julianna. After the session, I checked my phone and the time was 8:13 pm. I quickly rushed out and flagged down a taxi to take me to the airport. "Mas rapido, por favor", I told the taxi driver, but there was a massive traffic on our way to the airport. The time kept on ticking quickly as the traffic got worse. We reached the airport at around 8:55 pm and ran all the way to the Secure storage to fetch my luggage and then to the Check-in desk. As I tried to check in, I was told I needed a E-Visa, because I had a connecting flight at Boston, I told them I was a UK citizen and should no require the Visa, but they said every non US national has to get it. They told me I could get one online, but they were closing the gate in 2 minutes. My phone was dead and they said no when I asked to use their system to get the E visa. I ended up missing my flight and rebooked another ticket for a morning flight. I slept at the airport and took my new flight at 8 am.

I am never taking any flight passing through the states again. Is it possible to claim compensation from the airline?

P.S.

I was at Santa Fe twice well past 4 am in the morning and I did not see any reason to worried. There were lots of dodgy guys watching everybody, but there were lots of police presence there as well. The police announced using a speaker after the clubs closed on both nights that they will start arresting people if they do not leave the area. As long as you don't act or do something stupid, you should be fine here. I am definitely going to stay closer to Santa Fe next time I am in Bogota.

Santa Fe looked like heaven having stayed in Caracas where I witnessed a live robbery.

Seeking Arrangement.

This was an absolute waste of my time and money. Having spent abut $80 on their membership. I messaged about 13 girls and I got 5 numbers, but I was not able to meet even one of them in Bogota.

The girls were so hot on the website that I was already thinking of them before landing in Bogota.

Girl 1: No response to calls, texts and Whatsapp (She started responding to my messages on the day I was leaving).

Girl 2: Wanted 600,000, tried to talk her down to 400,000, but would not bulge.

Girl 3: We agreed the time and place, but sent a message in the morning to say she would not come, when I asked why, she never responded back to me.

Girl 4: She kept on asking about my life history, career history and felt scarier than a real relationship.

Girl 5: Rarely replied to my messages, was unable to plan anything.

Chesscat
12-31-17, 22:18
Nice report Baksonlee. You know how to have a good time, and you obviously have more $$ than I do too!! Jajajajaja. Bogota is an amazing place. Seems to me that Bogota and Medellin both have their plus and minuses, both are great destinations, just different. Glad you had lots of fun.


I was in Bogota between December 19 and December 23 and also on December 26.

December 19.

StripperMan
01-01-18, 18:58
Nice report Baksonlee. Sounds like you got to know Santa Fe well. Also, sorry about the scammers at La Villa. That situation could have been a lot worse.

As for the English-speaking Venezuelan you met on the streets of Santa Fe, did she happen to be tall, thin, long brown hair, white skin with a Euro or American look, possibly wearing glasses? If so I know who she is.

Gbawekanu
01-01-18, 22:45
Nice report Baksonlee. Sounds like you got to know Santa Fe well. Also, sorry about the scammers at La Villa. That situation could have been a lot worse.

As for the English-speaking Venezuelan you met on the streets of Santa Fe, did she happen to be tall, thin, long brown hair, white skin with a Euro or American look, possibly wearing glasses? If so I know who she is.Yes, that is her. She told me she works in one of the bars in Santa Fe. How was your experience with her?

WindAngel
01-02-18, 02:08
possibly wearing glasses? If so I know who she is.I know her. She is thin but it is weird to see her sagging body in the room. I got scammed by her too but was only out of 20 K.

Mr Enternational
01-02-18, 03:34
Nice report Baksonlee. You know how to have a good time, and you obviously have more $$ than I do too!! Jajajajaja. Bogota is an amazing place. Seems to me that Bogota and Medellin both have their plus and minuses, both are great destinations, just different. Glad you had lots of fun.Really? Accepting drinks from chicks that you don't know is the way to do it? Giving chicks 600 K for dancing and drinking up your liquor is the way to do it? It seems that most of these chicks saw this guy coming from 2 km away. What the fuck is mongering coming to?

Mr Enternational
01-02-18, 03:45
I am never taking any flight passing through the states again. Is it possible to claim compensation from the airline?You take Uber to the club then you get to the door and they ask to see your ID and you do not have it. Then you have to take a taxi back to your place to collect your ID and bring you back to the club. Why would you expect the Uber driver to compensate you for the taxi?

The airline's job is to get you where you said you wanted to go. It is your responsibility to know and have the documents that you need for your journey.

Routard
01-02-18, 04:07
Excellent report Backsonlee, it's great to try different things and make up your mind. Regarding what happened in la Villa however, it could have ended up much worse. La Villa is a great place for gringos to meet Colombianas. However, it's a non pro scene. I tried to explain it in the past, there is no such as 'semi-pros' in Bogota. 99% of girls in Bogota are non pro and as a gringo it's pretty easy to score, in La Villa or elsewhere. Pros are in places for P4 P, when a girl in la Villa start to talk about money, then there is something wrong. There are a lot of scams in Zona T with Scopolamine. It's never a good idea get drunk in an unknown place with unknown people. Scammers look for drunk and single people, you was the perfect victim. Most wake up in a hospital room without their belongings. A couple of months ago hte victim was a Colombian medic. He was not that lucky, they found him dead outside of Bogota. Its a matter of dosis. Never leave your drink unattended and never drink somenting that is offered by an unknown person.

StripperMan
01-02-18, 05:07
Yes, that is her. She told me she works in one of the bars in Santa Fe. How was your experience with her?One time I was with her she was great. We agreed on a set price, the sex was excellent, and we hung out a little just chilling. Another time I was with her she was a mess! She was trying to start fights for no reason, and I ended up kicking her out before even having sex. This girl has some big mood swings!

WindAngel
01-02-18, 12:19
My phone was dead and they said no when I asked to use their system to get the E visa. I ended up missing my flight and rebooked another ticket for a morning flight. I slept at the airport and took my new flight at 8 am.

I am never taking any flight passing through the states again. Is it possible to claim compensation from the airline?US requires citizens of countries on Visa Waver Program to get travel authorization online before arrival. I think what you get is a travel authorization, not visa. And it is usually good for a couple of years. The airline is doing its job. You probably could avoid the problem if you found it out earlier by arriving at the airport early.

Kib123
01-04-18, 17:24
Arrived wee hours of New Year's day, Bogota was virtually dead, nothing on the streets, most places closed.

Day 1.

Decided to try photoprepagos for opening ceremony. First lady I contacted quoted me 200 mil, which was double her posted rate. She claimed it was New Year day pricing, her attitude was off-putting, so I moved on.

Second lady from photoprepagos responded more cordially confirming her posted rates. Her street name is Carolina, mature but perfect well toned tight body, said she likes to work out. When she arrived, I liked her attitude enough that I decided on 2 h, for 200 mil. She is open to pretty much everything, including greek and photos / videos, no extra charge. Very good IOP (bordering on sex maniac) and GFE experience overall. Gave a decent firm massage between sessions (way better than you get at the rub and shag joints). Her BBBJ skill was potentially excellent but ruined by her incessant need to talk. She talks, and talks, and talks. We took a bubble bath in the jacuzzi afterwards (her idea). Spent about 3 h together, I was very pleased.

Day 2 - Rained all day, plus I was exhausted after my night with Carolina.

Day 3 - Decided to check out the rub and shag joints, first try was Pricesitas on Carrera 15 #116-59. Street # clearly marked at entrance, you go up the stairs and turn left on the 2nd (or 1st) floor. I was greeted by an ok looking friendly lady (Helena, or something) who explained the rates (100 k for CBJ. Pass, or 120 k for completo. Si). Does any sane dude ever pick the CBJ option? Seems pointless. Anyway, she offered herself or a lineup, I opted for the lineup, about 6 ladies, 6 - 8 rating, I. E. , all shaggable. I picked the youngest and prettiest, a skinny 21 year old, small tits, who looked a bit reserved and naive. Massage was crap, CBJ is not my thing so I can't judge. Shagging was excellent, she has very good IOP and is a passionate kisser. Allowed 2 pops without me asking. Annoying thing was that 'mamasan', or the 'bottom * not sure what they call them here, shouted that our time was up in our darkest moment of passion. She seemed as irritated as I was, we were not there for 1 h for sure, maybe 40 min tops. A negative point of note is that the rooms are the most basic I have ever seen anywhere. Not even a baby wipe to clean afterwards, just some cheap ass toilet paper that leaves crap all over your dick. Overall, I was very satisfied, and abandoned my plan to try the famous Mezzanine nearby on #104 afterwards.

Adventure continues.

Jwbobbitt
01-04-18, 20:47
Arrived wee hours of New Year's day, Bogota was virtually dead, nothing on the streets, most places closed.

Day 1.

Decided to try photoprepagos for opening ceremony. First lady I contacted quoted me 200 mil, which was double her posted rate. She claimed it was New Year day pricing, her attitude was off-putting, so I moved on.

Second lady from photoprepagos responded more cordially confirming her posted rates. Her street name is Carolina, mature but perfect well toned tight body, said she likes to work out. When she arrived, I liked her attitude enough that I decided on 2 h, for 200 mil. She is open to pretty much everything, including greek and photos / videos, no extra charge. Very good IOP (bordering on sex maniac) and GFE experience overall. Gave a decent firm massage between sessions (way better than you get at the rub and shag joints). Her BBBJ skill was potentially excellent but ruined by her incessant need to talk. She talks, and talks, and talks. We took a bubble bath in the jacuzzi afterwards (her idea). Spent about 3 h together, I was very pleased..This feels like a stupid question. But I am on my way to Columbia in a month and want to be clear. You use two different ways of expressing currency, for example "200 mil" and "120 k" Am I right that both "mil" and "k" refer to thousands, so that "200 mil" is about $70?

Kib123
01-04-18, 22:52
This feels like a stupid question. But I am on my way to Columbia in a month and want to be clear. You use two different ways of expressing currency, for example "200 mil" and "120 k" Am I right that both "mil" and "k" refer to thousands, so that "200 mil" is about $70?Correct sir! Mil means 1000 in Spanish, I was confused too at first because on some currency notes they use Mil and on others, 000; e. G. , some say 2,000 pesos and others 2 Mil pesos.

Alliwantislove
01-04-18, 23:23
...
Very good IOP (bordering on sex maniac) and GFE experience overall. ...
IOP? Google didn't know either. Thanks for a great report.

Kib123
01-05-18, 01:16
IOP? Google didn't know either. Thanks for a great report.IOP = Illusion Of Passion (a US acronym for rating level of passion a provider brings, genuine or believable make-believe).

Frankfurt
01-05-18, 02:11
Did she (Carolina) have rose tattoos on her shoulder and body and is a MILF?


Second lady from photoprepagos responded more cordially confirming her posted rates. Her street name is Carolina, mature but perfect well toned tight body, said she likes to work out. When she arrived, I liked her attitude enough that I decided on 2 h, for 200 mil.

Kib123
01-06-18, 18:17
Did she (Carolina) have rose tattoos on her shoulder and body and is a MILF?Yes, that's the one.

Kazeu
01-07-18, 15:17
When I was in Bogota looking for freelancers on mileroticos, I got tired of weeding through trash and wrote something to help me out. Attached is a zip file with 2 html files inside. They show summaries of the last 10 pages of listings form milerotico's Bogota. Chapinero and Bogota. Santa fe section. The ads were consolidated by phone number. Sorted by date then number of ads. Pictures from a single phone numbers ads are collected and displayed together. You can quickly scan for freelancers who show pictures with their faces and avoid agencies which post frequently, thereby diluting the quality of the ad stream.

Enjoy.

PirateMorgan
01-07-18, 15:47
Wonderful piece of work.

ZumZum
01-08-18, 00:05
I really want to check out the scene in Santa Fe but am a bit worried because uber often doesn't work for me in Bogota (can't get coverage in certain places). Possible to get the club to ring me a taxi? Bit wary of them on the street at night in this area though I do speak good Spanish. Thoughts?

JjBee62
01-08-18, 04:36
I really want to check out the scene in Santa Fe but am a bit worried because uber often doesn't work for me in Bogota (can't get coverage in certain places). Possible to get the club to ring me a taxi? Bit wary of them on the street at night in this area though I do speak good Spanish. Thoughts?Get the club to call, or use an app like Tappsi or EasyTaxi.

Questner
01-08-18, 05:14
I really want to check out the scene in Santa Fe but am a bit worried because uber often doesn't work for me in Bogota (can't get coverage in certain places). Possible to get the club to ring me a taxi? Bit wary of them on the street at night in this area though I do speak good Spanish. Thoughts?Why not. They can even get you a white taxi. I had no issue with regular ones. There are plenty in the area.

Jwbobbitt
01-08-18, 19:28
Correct sir! Mil means 1000 in Spanish, I was confused too at first because on some currency notes they use Mil and on others, 000; e. G. , some say 2,000 pesos and others 2 Mil pesos.Thank you!

Kib123
01-08-18, 23:31
Details sprinkled in to help Bogota noobies understand the landscape. All photoprepago (pp) contacts made via whatsapp, no local SIM card necessary.

Day 4. After my luck with the first pp lady, tried another takeout called Dahiana (not sure how long the links will work): https://www.photoprepagos.com/hermosa-universitaria-descomplicada-de-rostro-angelical-y-sensuales-curvas-3229137149-id-z9fvj . The lady is hot, nice large boobs, skinny. Upsold me on BBBJ for extra 50 k, and like a sucker I fell for it, waste of money. Overall, average experience; lousy BJ, no GFE, poor IOP. Positives were that she was friendly and can really take a pounding. If you are mainly into looks, she may be your type. Otherwise not recommended. Total damage 200 k, 1 h.

Day 5. Another takeout from pp, a young 21 yo lady called Sofia (this is a common name on pp); https://www.photoprepagos.com/tengo-muchas-ganas-de-ense%C3%B1arte-toda-mi-experiencia-sexual-en-la-cama-id-2w9x2 . A very sensual lady, easygoing personality, speaks a good deal of English so interaction was a breeze. However, of all the pp ladies I interacted with, she is the only one who wasn't explicit about specific services included in her advertised rates. The only one who responded almost instantly to all my inquiries. The only one who showed up on time. And the only one who insisted on payment upfront. All red flags. Turned out to be false alarms, she was a genuine GFE with very good IOP. Excellent BBBJ. No hidden charges or up-sell. Total damage, 150 k, 1 h. Repeatable.

Day 6. Visited the Chapinero RLD with all the massage parlors and love motels. Place is seedy as expected, but not scary. Specific addresses not easy to find find since they are mostly unmarked, but the map was super helpful. For the massage parlors, the best hint is a lone dude standing by an entrance (usually closed), look at him the right way and he will beckon you in. Jumped into a spa by NW corner of CL 67 and Cr 15, a White House (listed on map as Tantra Spa 67, but I think the small sign by the door said Spa 69). Place was busy with at least 4 dudes checking in / out. Lineup was 4 ladies, only one a 7, rest were 5's. I picked the 7, tall lady with wings tattoo covering entire back, called Nicol. Shy in the lineup, but open in the room, massage was mediocre. Tried to claim touching was extra. I didn't bite; then she just let me have my way. Despite the poor start, she turned out to be a good GFE and great performer. We ended on very good terms. Total damage 85 k, 1 h. Probably my last massage parlor visit due to questionable hygiene.

Day 7. Visited the famous Santa Fe RLD. All I can say is that I found it seedy as shit, and underwhelming in general. Street ladies were ugly, chubby or both, mostly both. Tried to navigate my way to the clubs and ended up in Zona Drag Queen, never seen so many in my life. If you have never been to a RLD or don't know what to expect, tone down your expectations substantially. If you know what you expect, you will have a good time as others have said. To me it just confirmed hardcore RLD is not my thing. Been to many of them around the world and found them all to be poor value for the experiences I like.

Came back to the room and ordered another PP instead. Marylin, https://www.photoprepagos.com/soy-una-despampanante-mujersota-complice-del-buen-sexo-ardiente-fogosa-y-una-perra-muy-pasional-id-vewzf . Up-sells like shit, but I took the bait anyway. She's 26, and looks a lot younger than her pics suggest. Very bubbly personality. By far the best experience I have had thus far. Excellent mix of GFE, PSE and personality. Genuine deep throat all the way to the bone, extremely rare. Total damage 190 k (including 50 k up-sell for BBBJ and Greek, and 20 k for taxi). Agreement was 1 h, but she stayed for 2 h. Highly recommended.

Lessons learned:

Photoprepago is a good and surprisingly low risk way to meet high quality independent GFE providers. Filtering by "Independentes" and "Con Experiencias" (meaning "with reviews") seem to weed out most agency ads and fakes. Filtering by "verified photos" is largely unnecessary, I have not had any surprises either way, almost all have looked better than their photos.

Make sure you confirm what the lady provides for the listed rate before you commit. Some do not up-sell, but many (about 50% in my interactions) will tack on unadvertised extra charge for things like BBBJ, Greek, and / or outcall. All allow MSOG at no extra charge (except in spas where single pop is the norm, regardless of duration selected). All so far have honored the minimum time, while some stay longer. All have been relatively friendly, and most are genuinely willing to please.

I love Bogota!

Jwbobbitt
01-09-18, 19:18
Correct sir! Mil means 1000 in Spanish, I was confused too at first because on some currency notes they use Mil and on others, 000; e. G. , some say 2,000 pesos and others 2 Mil pesos.P.S. Congrats Kib123 on your travels. I happened to search your posts looking for Bogota Report #1 (which I did not realize that I had read) when I saw Bogota Report #2. I also enjoy tasting the women of the world when I travel and was impressed with your destinations and experiences. Fly safely, friend!

Jwbobbitt
01-09-18, 19:49
Does anybody have experience with this lady?

http://elixirphysiques.com/Home_Page.html

Kib123
01-12-18, 03:19
P.S. Congrats Kib123 on your travels. I happened to search your posts looking for Bogota Report #1 (which I did not realize that I had read) when I saw Bogota Report #2. I also enjoy tasting the women of the world when I travel and was impressed with your destinations and experiences. Fly safely, friend!Been lucky my job lets me tour different corners of the earth, got to take advantage my man. Thanks for noticing my global trials and tribulations.

Kib123
01-12-18, 04:16
My report for Bogota would be incomplete without my final experience. I was on a roll with pp, so decided to take my chances on Linda; https://www.photoprepagos.com/gordita-sexy-y-muy-buena-compa%C3%B1ia-que-tiene-hoy-un-excelente-servicio-para-ti-id-jpfrm . The lady describes herself as chubby, but by US standards she would only qualify as average. Anyway, large boobs, a bit of meat on the bone. Yes, a bit bigger then her pics, but not by much. Very pretty face. Turned out to be a good choice for a closing ceremony. She was the most genuinely passionate of all the ladies I sessioned with. Very much into it that it is doubtful she was acting. A bit submissive, but once you initiate, she becomes a wild animal, very energetic and engaged during the session. She also does not upcharge for standard things like BBBJ or transport. The best value for money my entire trip. Damage was 80 k, 1 h. I liked her a lot, so went for 2 h for 140 k. Greek is available for 30 k extra regardless of session length for those interested. Highly recommended.

For true GFE I would rank her as number 1, for PSE I would pick Marylin first. Carolina would be great too were she just not so annoying as a talker.

Additional notes:

It seems most Bogota providers expect you to provide the preservativo (condoms), or at least they try to hustle it out of you. Not sure if condoms are that expensive in Bogota, or the ladies are just cheap. Have some ready just in case.

I interacted with a lot more ladies from pp than I sessioned with. Most responded honestly and sent face pics when asked. As I said previously, about half will upcharge an average of 50 k for BBBJ, and / or 20 - 50 k for outcall. All were upfront about the extras at the negotiation phase. None was unwilling to perform BBBJ. Most will upcharge for greek when offered. None upcharged for MSOG. I tried to negotiate with 2, and this went nowhere, I never sessioned with either. All seemed to be handling their own bookings. Only one out of 9 cancelled on me due to 'rain', none were no shows. All except 1 were late an average of 30 min, but they kept me posted. Only 1 out of 8 would be a 'No' recommendation.

Massage parlors are a (slightly) cheaper option, but only if you take the 30 min session. As a foreigner who doesn't speak Spanish though, you are likely to be offered only the more expensive 1 h by default. Whether this leads to a better session, I don't know. Either way, the massage parlors in Bogota are the shittiest I ever saw, not inspiring at all in terms of hygiene. Even though I had 2 pretty good sessions, I would likely not go back.

Santa Fe is definitely not for everybody. Plan to at least rent a wing man if you wish to explore it, even in daytime. I would not go back.

In all, I have never had such a high success rate anywhere in the world. All with very little effort, and high quality at reasonable rates.

God bless Bogota, and this forum!

Mr Enternational
01-16-18, 20:01
My girlfriend left for work at 7am. I went downstairs to eat and came back up to relax a bit. I was supposed to hook up with a chick at her house at 10. She had even given me the address yesterday, but today when I asked if she was ready she said that she would have to meet me out because there is a clause in her divorce that says she can not have men in the house. (Hear that one a lot in the Dominican Republic too.) I told her fuck that and deleted her. She knows that I have a girlfriend and was not about to be with her in public.

So what else to do but head to Santa Fe at 11am. Damn. I haven't been in the daytime in years. And except for the clubs being closed, I think the action is better. There were tons of chicas out. The first one I got for 30K. She let me pull it out and skeet in her face so I surprised her with a tip of 20K.

I stopped in to the barbershop across from Troya to recharge and get my haircut. 10K for the cut and wash and tipped him 2K. I headed out to the street and took some selfies with my Samsung Galaxy.

I saw another chick that looked so delicious so I stopped to ask her the price. She said 35K. I gave her 40K and she gave it to the lady at the office. The lady gave her 5K change. When we got to the room I took my 5K out of her hand. She said I am not going to rob you. She gave me a great session. I asked her how much for all night and she said she didn't do all night. I said why not. She said because she snores something awful. I said me too. That is why I use a machine. We cleaned up and she said the tip is voluntary. Then she said she would give me her number in case I wanted to see her again. She put it in my phone and I gave her the 5K back. She laughed and said see you gave it to me anyway.

I could be wrong but it seems like before I would pay the room and the girl separate, but now it is all included in one low price. I thought it used to be like 10K for the room.

I walked the few blocks back to my room and will go eat some fish at my favorite Sabores del Pacifico in el centro before I have to meet my girl when she gets off at 5:30.

Also, I tried Tinder out before leaving to go to Santa Fe, but 0 hits since I have been back in the room.

This is a view of Santa Fe from my hotel room and a selfie in front of Troya to show how dangerous it is. And a pic of the girlfriend too.

Woodman09
01-17-18, 03:34
Yes- Love the Streetie Sweeties! Great quality at peak times!


So what else to do but head to Santa Fe at 11am. Damn. I haven't been in the daytime in years. And except for the clubs being closed, I think the action is better. There were tons of chicas out. The first one I got for 30K. She let me pull it out and skeet in her face so I surprised her with a tip of 20K.

I stopped in to the barbershop across from Troya to recharge and get my haircut. 10K for the cut and wash and tipped him 2K. I headed out to the street and took some selfies with my Samsung Galaxy.

I saw another chick that looked so delicious so I stopped to ask her the price. She said 35K. I gave her 40K and she gave it to the lady at the office. The lady gave her 5K change. When we got to the room I took my 5K out of her hand. She said I am not going to rob you. She gave me a great session. I asked her how much for all night and she said she didn't do all night. I said why not. She said because she snores something awful. I said me too. That is why I use a machine. We cleaned up and she said the tip is voluntary. Then she said she would give me her number in case I wanted to see her again. She put it in my phone and I gave her the 5K back. She laughed and said see you gave it to me anyway.

I could be wrong but it seems like before I would pay the room and the girl separate, but now it is all included in one low price. I thought it used to be like 10K for the room..

Tom Power
01-20-18, 06:23
Hello my friends,

I know how you guys like details. SO here goes. I'm here for 2 months arrived Mon. Tues I went to a love motel I researched onine its called secret motel www.secretmotel.com.co iCl. 62 #1551, Bogotá, Colombia went in waited had 4 beers while tried whatsapping and calling solitasparati they're mentioned a lot here and for good reason finally got the chic / mammasan on the phone told her I wanted a slim model body ID seen on her twitter Brittany you can still see her. She said she be there in two hours. So I waited for one hour in the lobby then went in. Room is sencilla option you get a pole a love making chair big bed way better than brothel. Warm water. 60 cop 4 hours. She arrived on time 415 pm absolutely the girl in the photos 200. Cop for an hour its a legit agency definitely recommend them. Session was amazing. She gave CBJ and I came missionary. Sorry she seemed so new to the biz turned me on. Hearing about her classes and the long trip etc etc. Didn't really last. She was a lot more girl next door than hardcore pro. Then that night I met a Colombian friend and he dragged me to pussy house because its close to where we were I've been there a few years back and all the chicks were ugly. So I wasn't happy to go. Actually here on the forum bunch a guys pumped up pussy house I thought they were wacked. But I was wrong outside the door was a petite 21 year old with slightly Indian cheeks shoulder length long silky black hairy dark eyes red red lipstick sweet elegant red one piece I told her how pretty she was and then we went in and wow not like I remembered. There was at least 3 stunners. By stunner I mean perfect bodies. All the ladies in pussy seem to dress more elegant. Some old hefer wouldn't get lost finally had let her have it. The girl outside Charlotte is her name I went back oit got her to come in we drank I beers she ordered a Smirnoff 15 cop the bartender gives her a chit she gets $$ later. Told her she's the one and left without going up stairs. We whatsapped from Tues. Night till Fri. Morn. She met me at 4 pm at the secret motel today FR I payed 70 for 4 hours because wanted a better room one with more mirrors loi. She came in jeans and a sweat shirt.

We started making out we talked a lot of love nonsense in the whatsapp so it felt like we were legit quite enjoyable and GFEy yeah I DATY I know but we so in love you got to foreplay. So then I missionaries and finished her on top. After that I massaged her back and front for an hour and we did it again and she CBJ me then back on top. She had very good on top motion so I wanted her to do that again. We still had almost 2 hours so we spent it talking turns out she speaks better English than I thought her dream is like all of them to move to the exterior its possible she's not this sweet with Colombians we downloaded songs theres wifi ate salmon and French fries then we got the call to vacate or pay 20 k for another hour I said were leaving as I'm packing up she gets this worried loom snd says that I'm forgetting something do I said ohhhh she was reluctant to ask for her money she said are you going to make me ask? I said you need to say a number but remember I'm gringo but Colombian soul she said 2 thousand in English I was like holly crap I said 2 mi. We both laughed her number was right on. She meant 200.000 pesos. She left and I know ill never see her again because I don't repeat because it never gets better. I might even have to avoid pussy house because she was so sweet don't want to face her. But really highlight of my Colombian experiences. Interestingly. We talked so much love in the whatsapp I couldn't ask what she wanted for $$ didn't even know if shed leave after 4 hours. So I did the real big no no doing dead without establishing a rate. Initially. She didn't want to eat anything she only wanted a water but I think she started to worry I wasn't going to give her anything so she started flipping through the sex toy catalog like maybe if she got a dildo or a nightie she wouldn't leave empty handed. They have like a brochure of stuff you can have sent up to the room. So she settled on a salmon meal 40 k It was really sweet how she behaved almost shy. She wanted me to cover her boobs and pussy for the massage. She's still so innocent. In a couple of months shell change. So go see her.

OK remember, we're all in this together.

Tom Power.

Mr Enternational
01-22-18, 00:44
I was supposed to hook up with a chick at her house at 10. She had even given me the address yesterday, but today when I asked if she was ready she said that she would have to meet me out because there is a clause in her divorce that says she can not have men in the house. (Hear that one a lot in the Dominican Republic too.) I told her fuck that and deleted her. She knows that I have a girlfriend and was not about to be with her in public.This chick kept sending me messages so I gave her an ultimatum. She had me come way from downtown to her house in La Victoria Norte (17K Uber) only to go back down to a motel by the airport. This was my first time using one of those motels close to the airport and more than likely my last. I have been to motels in other areas that were not as expensive. At 99K, this Maryland Motel cost more than my 75K downtown hotel with free breakfast.

When we finished we walked outside and I paid the money to the guy walking the grounds. I called an Uber for myself because I was going to meet my girl at Hayuelos mall and I had the guy call a taxi for old girl. I did not have any change so I tried to give her 50K for the taxi (it was 25K from her house to the motel). She declined and told me that she has her own money.

As soon as we parted she started sending me messages. In pure woman fashion she goes on about how she is looking for her other half. Well what the fuck. When I met you I told you that I had a girlfriend and I even sent you a picture of us together. So where is all of this bullshit coming from? I never responded.

P.S. Is it possible to call 2 Ubers at one time from the same account on the same phone?

JjBee62
01-22-18, 05:17
This chick kept sending me messages so I gave her an ultimatum. She had me come way from downtown to her house in La Victoria Norte (17K Uber) only to go back down to a motel by the airport. This was my first time using one of those motels close to the airport and more than likely my last. I have been to motels in other areas that were not as expensive. At 99K, this Maryland Motel cost more than my 75K downtown hotel with free breakfast.

When we finished we walked outside and I paid the money to the guy walking the grounds. I called an Uber for myself because I was going to meet my girl at Hayuelos mall and I had the guy call a taxi for old girl. I did not have any change so I tried to give her 50K for the taxi (it was 25K from her house to the motel). She declined and told me that she has her own money.There are several love motels just west of Pussy House. If I remember correctly prices are for 19 - 45 k for 3 hours.

SexoOMyMind
01-22-18, 05:19
Found this on PP.

https://www.photoprepagos.com/candente-[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)-muy-completa-bbj-soy-traviesa-y-consentidora-id-3q5kg

Any views on this spa? Is there a spa that would allow to stay for 4-5 hours and relax before and after the session?

Like the German FKK's? Thanks for your input.

SOMM.

Iguana Six
01-22-18, 22:22
I did not have any change so I tried to give her 50K for the taxi (it was 25K from her house to the motel). She declined and told me that she has her own money.

As soon as we parted she started sending me messages. In pure woman fashion she goes on about how she is looking for her other half. Well what the fuck. When I met you I told you that I had a girlfriend and I even sent you a picture of us together. So where is all of this bullshit coming from? Where is it coming from? It is coming from you. Your IDGAF attitude, your already having a woman, your unattainability and resistance to playing her game, is like cat nip to her. No woman wants a man that no other woman wants, but every woman wants a man that other women have. Your lovemaking really is good for her, because she knows she doesn't "have" you, so she must please you. She is competing with your girlfriend. You can take her or leave her. If she makes hooking up with her too complicated.

In the end, he who cares less. Wins.

Routard
01-23-18, 14:28
Is there a spa that would allow to stay for 4-5 hours and relax before and after the session?

Like the German FKK's? Thanks for your input.

SOMM.



In the sex massage parlours in Bogota, you stay the time you spent with the girl, not more. The closest with FKK you might find in Bogota could be the sauna swing clubs. You enter, pay entrance, undress, put towel and sandals on, can stay as long as you want enjoying the sauna, hamam, jacuzzi and bar area, fuck as much as you want with the available working girls and if you are lucky with a female guest. Mansion has private rooms for adicional cost, in all other swing saunas, sex is public. Have a look in my Bogota FAQ for more information.

ChosenWun
01-26-18, 02:56
Can anyone give me some hotel options in Bogota? I'd like somewhere chica friendly. If its next to some spots where I can pick up ladies or good restaurants that's a plus also.

Dante702
01-26-18, 06:59
Complete new to this, only going for P4P, except Routard's recommendation of angelicialibid.

If anyone will be down there and would like to meet, PM me.

Can anyone tell me what the following means.

"gp" from. 1 hour with oral to natural and gp?

"hmh" from. Trio hmh?

"mhm" from. Trio mhm?

If. Sexo-oral-completo = swallow?

JetDork
01-27-18, 02:13
Complete new to this, only going for P4P, except Routard's recommendation of angelicialibid.

If anyone will be down there and would like to meet, PM me.

Can anyone tell me what the following means.

"gp" from. 1 hour with oral to natural and gp?
"hmh" from. Trio hmh?
"mhm" from. Trio mhm?
If. Sexo-oral-completo = swallow?GP is Garganta profunda = deep throat.

Hmh is hombre mujer hombre = two dudes, 1 chica.

Mhm is mujer hombre mujer = 2 chicas, 1 dude. Could be Atención a parejas = service to couples or Trío con dos prepagos = trio with two escorts.

Oral-completo is CIM. Probably spit, not swallow.

Jwbobbitt
01-27-18, 17:06
Hi gents,

I am on a tour in Colombia in mid February and would like to squeeze in some fun. I arrive in Bogota February 9 and head to Barranquilla for the Carnaval on the 10th, back on the evening of the 11th and then the tour starts on the 12th. I also have a day in Bogota at the end of the tour on the 11th and part of the 12th. During the tour we will stop in Medellin and Cartagena but I am unlikely to have much in the way of free time. And I do want to see the country!

Anyway. I have a couple of questions so far:

1. Is the Augusta hotel in La Candelaria likely to be chica friendly? (And no, I can't change the hotel. Long story) I would love to arrange a visitor for a nice massage and fun after a long flight. And I would be happy to hear recommendations. I like thin women with small boobs and am open to both young and more mature companions. (I'm 55) I've been looking at photoprepagos and lots of choice there--hard to tell what service will be like.

2. Alternatively I could head to a massage place the evening of the 9th. Any recommendations for something a little upscale with a combination of a good massage and good service on other fronts?

3. What else should I be thinking about?

Thanks in advance.

Dante702
01-29-18, 03:28
Just had a really terrible experience with Sofia from Photo Prepagos. It's been many years since that was her in her photos. Her ass is fat and not toned and her breasts have shrunk. She doesn't show her teeth in her photos because they are crooked. I really should have slammed the door once I saw her, but I'm too timid. I'm mad but also really sorry. That I did it and for her. She shouldn't be doing this type of work anymore.

This is my first time doing P4P. I really never used condoms in my life except to put them on at the last minute when I'm really close. I otherwise can't stay up when I use them.

Looking for advice. I'm up for switching up my plans. Paying a little bit for lots of girls, to paying a lot for quality girls. But I think I really need a situation where I don't have to use a condom? Maybe it's because none really fit me, because I'm a smaller dude.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Takalah
01-29-18, 03:49
Going to Bogota for the first time, looking for model like escorts. Has anyone tried http://www.bogotaintima.com/index.html? The pics seem too good to be true although the prices are very high.

WindAngel
01-29-18, 09:42
I went to Bogota last year, used Woodman09 as my guide and stayed at 3 hotels that are walking distance to Santa Fe. Here is a short review.

Guide

Woodman took me on the tour of every bar in Santa Fe, some we bought drinks and stayed for a while, some we left without doing anything as there was no reason to stay. We also toured the streets. He taught me about safety and how things work. I felt comfortable walking into bars, or talking to girls after that because I had been to all of them once already. His service made my trip so much better. Woodman also argued with the bar staffs a couple of times to get my money back because I was short changed. There is no question he takes care of his client. Another time we went out and I explicitly told him that I would pay for all drinks but he did not order because the drink was more expensive and it is not required for him to order drink. I only have positive experience with him so I strongly recommend his service. The only complain I have is his taxi friend did not come thru with a beauty girl I saw on his phone.

Ibis Bogota Museo

Pros:

Clean and new
Good Wifi.
Good view looking outside of Windows.

Cons:

Small room.

About rate:

Weekends and weekdays rates are different. Weekends are cheaper than weekdays.

Hotel San Francisco

Pros:

Cheap.Close to Santa Fe, but not by much.

Cons:

very dated, not very clean.
Lots of traffic noise, No sound proof windows, was given a room on the street side facing Transmileno station.
Almost no English is spoken here.

Dann Avenida 19 Hotel

Pros:

Clean. Very large room comparing to Ibis.

Cons:

Spotty Wifi.

My room has only a small window but it is big enough for me.

About rate:

Woodman recommanded this place to me. I got 3 rates here. I walked into the hotel to check the place out, and was given a rate that was better than what was available on the internet. After checked in and saw the room, I went to front desk to make reservation for my remaining stay. The rate was around 130 mil, which was 20 or 30 mils cheaper than the walk up rate for the first night. They told me I can't get this rate on the phone.

Transmileno:

You can take a bus right in front of the airport to Ibis. You can buy ticket / bus card at the bus stop from people wearing Transmileno vest.

I think this is the Transmileno naming system which contains a single character alphabet (destination hub) followed by a number (route).

M is the hub near airport.
K is hub near Santa Fe / Museo Nacional.
86 is the line between airport M and K.
M86 is from airport to Santa Fe (Museo Nacional), K86 is the reverse direction on the same route.


The bars I like the most are Atunes and Troya. I like my experience at mezzanine, only been there once. I also like walking up and down Carrera 10 on weekends. The city closes Carrara 10 to cars and there are many vendors out on the street. I enjoyed the variety of the street foods. Uber is not reliable. The driver canceled frequently, and remember to close the car door very lightly, the drivers don't like the way I normally close the car door in US.

Jbj64
01-30-18, 22:24
I stayed here for 2 nights, I had one chica come over. They called from the front desk and I said it was ok. I had prepaid in full from booking so the hotel did not have my CC info to bill me.

I did not like the hotel that much, no heat and it was getting down to 35-40 degree at night. La candelaria is not too far from all the action.


Can anyone give me some hotel options in Bogota? I'd like somewhere chica friendly. If its next to some spots where I can pick up ladies or good restaurants that's a plus also.

Bolongo
01-31-18, 04:09
Hey, does any one have Lisa Ann's digits? She was older, in her 40's, great body, big bolt ONS and big ass. Please PM me. Back in June she said she was taking a break for a while and gave me her direct number.

Kib123
01-31-18, 06:18
Just had a really terrible experience with Sofia from Photo Prepagos. It's been many years since that was her in her photos. Her ass is fat and not toned and her breasts have shrunk. She doesn't show her teeth in her photos because they are crooked. I really should have slammed the door once I saw her, but I'm too timid. I'm mad but also really sorry. That I did it and for her. She shouldn't be doing this type of work anymore.
Sorry for your experience, but which Sofia are you referring to? There's a lot of Sofias on that forum. A link or extra info would help fellow mongers.

Routard
01-31-18, 19:02
1. Is the Augusta hotel in La Candelaria likely to be chica friendly? (And no, I can't change the hotel. Long story) I would love to arrange a visitor for a nice massage and fun after a long flight. And I would be happy to hear recommendations. I like thin women with small boobs and am open to both young and more mature companions. (I'm 55) I've been looking at photoprepagos and lots of choice there--hard to tell what service will be likeAs this question comes back and back again, can anyone report a hotel in Bogota that is NOT chica friendly??

Xpartan
02-01-18, 05:36
As this question comes back and back again, can anyone report a hotel in Bogota that is NOT chica friendly??Not exactly not-friendly, they just want their cut. The last one I contacted was Grand Park in Candelaria that wants 120,000 if the companion stays after 6 PM. I can understand $10 (they check IDs and stuff), but $40? Maybe cheaper places don't have this issues, IDK.

Routard
02-01-18, 15:23
Not exactly not-friendly, they just want their cut. The last one I contacted was Grand Park in Candelaria that wants 120,000 if the companion stays after 6 PM. I can understand $10 (they check IDs and stuff), but $40? Maybe cheaper places don't have this issues, IDK.Just ask the hotel price for single occupancy and double occupancy as some hotels indeed have different prices for it. When you bring a girl, it's not written on her face if she is a pro, a casual or regular girl friend and nobody cares anyway. Any guest needs ID even if it's your wife you have been married with for 40 years.

Mr Enternational
02-01-18, 15:39
Not exactly not-friendly, they just want their cut. The last one I contacted was Grand Park in Candelaria that wants 120,000 if the companion stays after 6 PM. I can understand $10 (they check IDs and stuff), but $40? Maybe cheaper places don't have this issues, IDK.That is how it is done in Colombia. My second time there it was me and 2 friends. We were going to Cali but had to spend the night in Bogota. Rather than get 3 separate rooms, we opted for 1 room with 3 beds. Did not know until checkout the next day that it was the same price had we gotten 3 separate rooms. Your best bet is to book on hotelsdotcom or something and say 2 people. That way you can avoid paying the Colombia way for the additional person.

Kazeu
02-01-18, 15:40
Please share a link. It would be nice to know who to avoid.


Just had a really terrible experience with Sofia from Photo Prepagos. It's been many years since that was her in her photos. Her ass is fat and not toned and her breasts have shrunk. She doesn't show her teeth in her photos because they are crooked. I really should have slammed the door once I saw her, but I'm too timid. I'm mad but also really sorry. That I did it and for her. She shouldn't be doing this type of work anymore.

This is my first time doing P4P. I really never used condoms in my life except to put them on at the last minute when I'm really close. I otherwise can't stay up when I use them.

Looking for advice. I'm up for switching up my plans. Paying a little bit for lots of girls, to paying a lot for quality girls. But I think I really need a situation where I don't have to use a condom? Maybe it's because none really fit me, because I'm a smaller dude.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Bolongo
02-01-18, 23:52
So Sunday is my birthday and the house is causing problems so I am at the airport waiting for my flight to Bogata! If anyone is there now shoot me a message. Planning in staying at Parque 93 Holiday inn. I leave late Sunday night.

HumanBeing1
02-02-18, 05:03
Just had a really terrible experience with Sofia from Photo Prepagos. It's been many years since that was her in her photos. Her ass is fat and not toned and her breasts have shrunk. She doesn't show her teeth in her photos because they are crooked. I really should have slammed the door once I saw her, but I'm too timid. I'm mad but also really sorry. That I did it and for her. She shouldn't be doing this type of work anymore.

This is my first time doing P4P. I really never used condoms in my life except to put them on at the last minute when I'm really close. I otherwise can't stay up when I use them.

Looking for advice. I'm up for switching up my plans. Paying a little bit for lots of girls, to paying a lot for quality girls. But I think I really need a situation where I don't have to use a condom? Maybe it's because none really fit me, because I'm a smaller dude.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.I never recommend going raw in these girls. Just buy some viagra if you're having trouble with the condom. It's easy to get down there.

Dante702
02-02-18, 05:48
Please share a link. It would be nice to know who to avoid.This nightmare. I've never tried Viagra. I'm 29. Is it worth it?

Chesscat
02-02-18, 15:40
Such good advice! Nice to see common sense and intelligence.


I never recommend going raw in these girls. Just buy some viagra if you're having trouble with the condom. It's easy to get down there.

Druster
02-02-18, 21:06
Dante,

I don't think is worth starting viagra at this age- wait 15-20 years when you really need it. At this age I would say dump the girl and get another one.

Arcangel
02-03-18, 14:37
I've never tried Viagra. I'm 29. Is it worth it?Viagra cures the symptoms, not the cause. Are you possibly one of those guys who can't get it up with a real woman because you're too jaded from years of consuming porn? On the other hand, if it's only because you're not used to condoms, then better get used to them, to avoid STDs and child support. Try them out at home by yourself first to get comfortable. If size is an issue, there are brands (depending on your country) which sell condoms in different sizes, from XXS to XXL. Measure yourself and buy them online. Take a good supply with you because in Colombia there is only the one-size-fits-all available.

Don't buy Viagra unless you are a shareholder in Pfizer and want to see their profits grow. Buy sildenafil which is the same thing without the brand name. It is made as a generic by different laboratories in Colombia and you can get it at any pharmacy. I recommend Sildenafil Genfar 4 x50 MG for 6. 000 COP (2 USD). Compare that to the price in your country and you will know to what extent big pharma has captured your government.

You probably don't need 50 MG unless you have serious ED. Try taking half or even a quarter tab.

YippieKayay
02-03-18, 14:43
This nightmare. I've never tried Viagra. I'm 29. Is it worth it?Talk to your doctor about your problem. It's common. I can go with or without a condom, and get almost as much pleasure with a condom. Bareback can feel great but there are genuine long term consequences that could fuck your life up.

Xpartan
02-04-18, 07:32
Just ask the hotel price for single occupancy and double occupancy as some hotels indeed have different prices for it. When you bring a girl, it's not written on her face if she is a pro, a casual or regular girl friend and nobody cares anyway. Any guest needs ID even if it's your wife you have been married with for 40 years.Thanks Routard, but that's what I did. Here is the full exchange.

Hello,

Do you allow guest access if I book a double occupancy room?

Thanks!

Dear Mr. , good morning, I am afraid I do not understand your question.

Kinf regards,

Can I bring outside visitors to my hotel room?

Dear Mr. The outside visitors are allowed until 6:00 pm, but thy need to be registered at the front desk showing their ID Card; they can not be minors, otherway it access would not be allowed; if the visitor stay after 6:00 pm, you will need to pay $ 120.000 COP for the extra person.

Kind regards,

I might still try to book and see what happens, but it's disheartening. Now, I've checked some Airbnb listings, and some better ones state outright that guests are not allowed. Kinda sucks.

Routard
02-04-18, 14:16
Dear Mr. The outside visitors are allowed until 6:00 pm, but thy need to be registered at the front desk showing their ID Card; they can not be minors, otherway it access would not be allowed; if the visitor stay after 6:00 pm, you will need to pay $ 120.000 COP for the extra person.Things are pretty clear and it's like this in any hotel in Colombia: no problem to bring a girl unless she is minor, has to show ID and there is a different rate for single or double occupancy of the room. There is no difference if it's your wife you know for 30 years or a hooker you met 5 minutes ago. If you don't want to pay the double occupancy, bring the girl during day time or check other hotels which charge the same for single or double occupancy. Colombia is a free country and people respect private life. Don't feel unconfortable for these rules, it's not about morality it's about safety. You don't need to be specific with the hotel and call her "'guest"', which means that you have no sentimental relation with her, in other words that she is a hooker. Just call her "novia"'. There is nothing wrong coming in town, registring alone at your hotel and that the girl friend who lives in town comes and join you later during the night. It doesn't matter if you book double occupancy, claiming that your girl frind will come and register later or register single occupancy and change it later in double occupancy when the gril register herself. There is nothing wrong registring as a single at your hotel, going out, meeting a girl, love at first sight, and bringing her to your hotel room. And it's not of the business of the hotel that each night you have a different girl friend, it's not your fault that you are so popular. You don't owe any explanation at your hotel about your private life and hotel is not allowed to judge if you if your emotional relationship with your girlfriend is sincere or if she is just taking advantage of your financial ressources. Do as they would say in Colombia: "has el gringo'', which means basically do as if you are dump! Why would you care what the employee of the hotel might think about you?

So I ask again: can anyone report that there is a hotel in Colombia where access of an adult chica with ID was denied?

Mr Enternational
02-04-18, 14:43
At booking, pay double occupancy and when registring just say that your girl friend will come later in the night. You don't need to be specific and call her "'guest"', which means that you have no sentimental relation with her, in other words that she is a hooker. Just call her "novia"'. And it's not of the business of the hotel that each night you have a different girl friend, it's not your fault that you are so popular. ;)Let me add that when me and my girlfriend checked in to my usual hotel (under new ownership) a couple of weeks ago, the desk clerk said there would be an additional fee if I brought someone other than her during my stay. I booked it on hotelsdotcom to avoid that Colombia double occupancy fee.

Routard
02-04-18, 15:09
Let me add that when me and my girlfriend checked in to my usual hotel (under new ownership) a couple of weeks ago, the desk clerk said there would be an additional fee if I brought someone other than her during my stay. I booked it on hotelsdotcom to avoid that Colombia double occupancy fee.Yes but you are allready too famous in your favorite hotel! Lol!

Woodman09
02-05-18, 05:54
Was all over Santa Fe tonite (Sunday) -- Showing a friend around, there around 6;30 it was really slow on the street.

Hung around had some beers Walked around and by 8 ish there were a lot more girls. Nice action in Fiebre, Paisa, Troya-- But my new favorite club is La Casona-- That is next to Troya on 16 a. So Many Hot 18-20's Venezolanas (my favorite) and they will dance with you and you can grind on them-- Such good bad girls. -- Sessioned with a super cute 18 yo skinny sexy HS looking (she let me pull her hair! And was screaming). And than with another super pretty girl 8-9 with natural the cup and silver dollar nipples. Paid 60 Mil each ($23).

I should say I was in SF last night (sat) also and it was really off the Hook more than 3 times as many girls at 6 p. Was in Attunes and sessioned twice with a Really nice Calena. Paid 60 Mil each.

Last Monday was there also. Way better than Sunday. Met a Really hot Calena skinny pretty girl with DD Naturals on the 16th street (streety sweety) sessioned with her 3 times. She Rocked my world, paid $40 mil x3.

Sunday is a good time to go if you go about 8;30 or 9 p.

Xpartan
02-06-18, 03:35
Things are pretty clear and it's like this in any hotel in Colombia: no problem to bring a girl unless she is minor, has to show ID and there is a different rate for single or double occupancy of the room. There is no difference if it's your wife you know for 30 years or a hooker you met 5 minutes ago. If you don't want to pay the double occupancy, bring the girl during day time or check other hotels which charge the same for single or double occupancy. Colombia is a free country and people respect private life. Don't feel unconfortable for these rules, it's not about morality it's about safety. You don't need to be specific with the hotel and call her "'guest"', which means that you have no sentimental relation with her, in other words that she is a hooker. Just call her "novia"'. There is nothing wrong coming in town, registring alone at your hotel and that the girl friend who lives in town comes and join you later during the night. It doesn't matter if you book double occupancy, claiming that your girl frind will come and register later or register single occupancy and change it later in double occupancy when the gril register herself. There is nothing wrong registring as a single at your hotel, going out, meeting a girl, love at first sight, and bringing her to your hotel room. And it's not of the business of the hotel that each night you have a different girl friend, it's not your fault that you are so popular. You don't owe any explanation at your hotel about your private life and hotel is not allowed to judge if you if your emotional relationship with your girlfriend is sincere or if she is just taking advantage of your financial ressources. Do as they would say in Colombia: "has el gringo'', which means basically do as if you are dump! Why would you care what the employee of the hotel might think about you?

So I ask again: can anyone report that there is a hotel in Colombia where access of an adult chica with ID was denied?Since I'm a glutton for punishment (LOL) decided to follow up with a more specific question.

Hi,

So help me understand that.

I want to book a DOUBLE OCCUPANCY Presidential Suite.

Are you still going to charge me extra $120000 for bringing a visitor?

Thanks!

Here is the response.

Dear Mr. :

If you booked for double occupancy, you might registered with the other person at the same time, and It need to be the same person; you can not register differente persons during your stay.

Kind regards,

I clearly told them I wanted to book the most expensive room in the house. And they still want me to pay their extortionist $40 fee!

So basically it tells me they don't really give a shit about single or double occupancy. They are trying to do one of 2 things (or both).

1. Discourage punters from bringing working girls to their establishment.

2. Capitalize on it if you do.

This wasn't my first inquiry (although other hotels charge less). It's possible that I might or might not be able sneak a girl in, but honestly, I don't feel like arguing with front desk with a girl in a tow and risking $40 to find out. If anyone can recommend an upscale apartment (preferably with a hot tub) where I won't be bothered with stupid fees, please let me know. Traveling in April, thanks!

Pilot3592
02-06-18, 03:41
Since I'm a glutton for punishment (LOL) decided to follow up with a more specific question.

Hi,

So help me understand that.

I want to book a DOUBLE OCCUPANCY Presidential Suite.

Are you still going to charge me extra $120000 for bringing a visitor?

Thanks!

Here is the response.If I remember correctly I believe a US president security staff had issues with this. I believe they objected to the fees and it became quite a public issue.

Mr Enternational
02-06-18, 03:53
Here is the response.

Dear Mr. :

If you booked for double occupancy, you might registered with the other person at the same time, and It need to be the same person; you can not register differente persons during your stay.

Kind regards,Exactly how I told you it worked.


I clearly told them I wanted to book the most expensive room in the house. And they still want me to pay their extortionist $40 fee!

So basically it tells me they don't really give a shit about single or double occupancy. They are trying to do one of 2 things (or both).

1. Discourage punters from bringing working girls to their establishment.

2. Capitalize on it if you do.

This wasn't my first inquiry (although other hotels charge less). It's possible that I might or might not be able sneak a girl in, but honestly, I don't feel like arguing with front desk with a girl in a tow and risking $40 to find out. If anyone can recommend an upscale apartment (preferably with a hot tub) where I won't be bothered with stupid fees, please let me know. Traveling in April, thanks!Why can't you face that this is just the way things are done in Colombia? It has nothing to do with hookers. I have never brought a hooker to my hotel in Colombia because I mainly deal with normal chicks. The times that I have fucked hookers, I have done it at a place that you can fuck onsite and once with a SW at a love motel in Barranquilla. Still the same rules apply when bringing nonpros, friends, or whoever.

Good luck trying to sneak someone past because in most of the hotels that I know you have to pass the front desk to get to the elevator. Only maybe in the Marriott can you sneak someone in IF the front desk is busy, because the elevators are on the other side and they may not see you come in if they are doing something else.

And they are not going to argue with you. They are just going to put it on your bill for you to pay at checkout as I have found out the hard way a couple of times.

PirateMorgan
02-06-18, 13:00
Are there any places in Bogota where guys hang out. Costa Rica has the Sportsmans and the Dominican Republic has Sosua and Pattaya has-well Pattaya. But what does Bogota have?

Mr Enternational
02-06-18, 13:59
Are there any places in Bogota where guys hang out. Costa Rica has the Sportsmans and the Dominican Republic has Sosua and Pattaya has-well Pattaya. But what does Bogota have?If you are asking if there is an area where foreign mongers hang out then I would say no. The only time I really even see foreigners in Bogota is if I am staying at the Marriott or Courtyard Hotels. In the streets, no. At the malls or clubs, no.

Turgid
02-06-18, 16:30
Talk to your doctor about your problem. It's common. I can go with or without a condom, and get almost as much pleasure with a condom. Bareback can feel great but there are genuine long term consequences that could fuck your life up.Prior to AIDS sex without condom was the norm. I had no problem with BBFS. With the advent of AIDS condom use became the norm and I had problems getting or maintaining an erection with it. It took me quite a while before I could have decent sex with a condom. It takes time to get accustomed to it.

Xpartan
02-07-18, 03:54
Exactly how I told you it worked.

Why can't you face that this is just the way things are done in Colombia?Why? I said, I was a glutton for punishment, LOL.

Look, this is going to be my first visit, so I've just been gathering information. I know there are love motels, but I want a freedom to bring someone in at nighton a whim. I was hoping this practice of charging for a guest was not as widespread, so I guess I was wrong. If it's not possible to get into a nice hotel without paying an outrageous "joiner" fee, then I need to focus on an apartment rental. It's just gotten clearer now, so -- thanks!

Routard
02-07-18, 21:56
Why? I said, I was a glutton for punishment, LOL.

Look, this is going to be my first visit, so I've just been gathering information. I know there are love motels, but I want a freedom to bring someone in at nighton a whim. I was hoping this practice of charging for a guest was not as widespread, so I guess I was wrong. If it's not possible to get into a nice hotel without paying an outrageous "joiner" fee, then I need to focus on an apartment rental. It's just gotten clearer now, so -- thanks!At http://www.viaggio.com.co double occupancy is 20 000 which is reasonable as breakfast is included for the second guest.

BigDude1
02-09-18, 05:25
Guys,

I need your advice.

Recently I signed up for Colombiancupid.com. Almost instantly I got tons of messages. It got overwhelming very fast. I am not the best looking guy, but in a very good shape. So I tried to keep up for a while then decided to narrow down to 3 ladies. They all very hot. Two of them professionals working for big companies and the other one is a student. All of them telling me that they don't want anything to do with Colombian men because none of them want to commit and want to have many women at the same time. I am not sure what makes them think that we are any better. All 3 want to meet and have relationship. I am really confused.

1. Is this some kind of set up?

2. Is it just their culture?

3. Should I even consider meeting them when I am in Bogota or just stick with working girls?

Thanks in advance.

Woodman09
02-09-18, 05:56
So friggen great! Could not swing a dead cat without hitting a pretty girl. Less guys on Thursday. Tons of hot chicas on the streets and tons more in Fiebre, La Casona, Paisa, Venus- and the others.

It seems the Venezuelans are grouped in some clubs and they are fun! I was dirty dancing with a few. Check out La Casona, Lion, Venus, Punto Oro for the hot Venezuelans and tons more on the streets.

Wednesdays are good too.

PasionUruguay
02-09-18, 18:49
Guys,

I need your advice.

Recently I signed up for Colombiancupid.com. Almost instantly I got tons of messages. It got overwhelming very fast. I am not the best looking guy, but in a very good shape. So I tried to keep up for a while then decided to narrow down to 3 ladies. They all very hot. Two of them professionals working for big companies and the other one is a student. All of them telling me that they don't want anything to do with Colombian men because none of them want to commit and want to have many women at the same time. I am not sure what makes them think that we are any better. All 3 want to meet and have relationship. I am really confused.

1. Is this some kind of set up?

2. Is it just their culture?

3. Should I even consider meeting them when I am in Bogota prepagos (http://pasionprepagos.com) or just stick with working girls?

Thanks in advance.Well, there's a lot of social and economic diferences in Colmbia. It's logical to think that some specific ladies might be looking for a tourist to get the life they want.

Of course I'm not saying every case is like this. But I think it's a fair guess on why you got ton of messages.

JjBee62
02-09-18, 19:23
Guys,

I need your advice.

Recently I signed up for Colombiancupid.com. Almost instantly I got tons of messages. It got overwhelming very fast. I am not the best looking guy, but in a very good shape. So I tried to keep up for a while then decided to narrow down to 3 ladies. They all very hot. Two of them professionals working for big companies and the other one is a student. All of them telling me that they don't want anything to do with Colombian men because none of them want to commit and want to have many women at the same time. I am not sure what makes them think that we are any better. All 3 want to meet and have relationship. I am really confused.

1. Is this some kind of set up?

2. Is it just their culture?

3. Should I even consider meeting them when I am in Bogota or just stick with working girls?

Thanks in advance.When you first sign up on any dating site you will get tons of messages from hot girls. Most of the messages are from fake accounts used by the dating site. The purpose is to get you to subscribe. In the past I've received messages from the same girl in 3 different countries.

Most of the remaining messages are from people who want to separate you from your money. 99% of the long initial messages are from one of these 2 groups. My estimate may be a little low.

The real Colombians will send a simple "hola. " They will almost never send a message longer than 10 words.

What should you do? Depends on what you are looking for in Bogota. Are you looking for a wife? No? Then why waste your time on someone who is looking for a husband? Are you planning on making frequent trips to Bogota and want a girlfriend who you can spend time with? No? Then why waste your time with girls who are looking for a boyfriend?

Which leaves the working girls. You can find them on Colombian Cupid, on Tinder, on the mileroticos and photosprepagos websites. You can find them on the streets, in the spas, casas or clubs. If you hang out on the right spot, they'll find you.

PirateMorgan
02-09-18, 20:09
Go for it! It is fabulous. I have met a ton of women, great women, and girls via the site. And I am no spring chicken. It is for real.

Global00
02-09-18, 22:41
Back in Bogota. Hit sante Fe and found 40 k gems. Two chocolate beauties from Cali and one from Venezuela. For all the round, brown get down ass lovers. This is for you. Love me some Colombia.

Enrique1993
02-10-18, 11:43
Looking around in local Website I found this MILF in Bogota. Here is my reviews:

Name: Monica.

URL / Website: https://escortscolombia.net/escort/monica-3/.

General Area: Area called chapinero in Bogota.

Activities: BBBJ, DT, CIMNS, MPCFS, K9, K9 Greek, DFK and a lot more. MSOG.

Session Length: 1 HR+.

Fee: 100 USD.

Hair Length and Color: Long blond.

Age: high 32's.

Smoking Status: I couldn't tell.

Physical description: She looks just like her pictures. Face is covered in a mask but she is very cute.

Recommendation: Yes, full yes.

The Tall Man
02-10-18, 19:48
When you first sign up on any dating site you will get tons of messages from hot girls. Most of the messages are from fake accounts used by the dating site. The purpose is to get you to subscribe. In the past I've received messages from the same girl in 3 different countries.

Most of the remaining messages are from people who want to separate you from your money. 99% of the long initial messages are from one of these 2 groups. My estimate may be a little low.

The real Colombians will send a simple "hola. " They will almost never send a message longer than 10 words.

What should you do? Depends on what you are looking for in Bogota. Are you looking for a wife? No? Then why waste your time on someone who is looking for a husband? Are you planning on making frequent trips to Bogota and want a girlfriend who you can spend time with? No? Then why waste your time with girls who are looking for a boyfriend?

Which leaves the working girls. You can find them on Colombian Cupid, on Tinder, on the mileroticos and photosprepagos websites. You can find them on the streets, in the spas, casas or clubs. If you hang out on the right spot, they'll find you.Perfectly said. Want to ad to just be real and very upfront with the girls, state exactly what you are looking for early, like second message, this keeps you from wasting time.

Have fun!

TTM.

TheCarlAnthony
02-10-18, 22:29
Bro,

Honestly in my opinion I think its more of a womans version if "game". They are looking for that lonely guy on here that will bite at the opportunity if have a beautiful exotic Colombian girlfriend. Their though process goes like this. Obviously any guy on Latina"cupid." Is looking for either love or sex. So if I get this guy to see me as a girlfriend and not as a working girl, I will have an advantage over the working girls. He will have to show me his sweet, affectionate, "giving" side. Its just a matter if time before she ask for money!


Guys,

I need your advice.

Recently I signed up for Colombiancupid.com. Almost instantly I got tons of messages. It got overwhelming very fast. I am not the best looking guy, but in a very good shape. So I tried to keep up for a while then decided to narrow down to 3 ladies. They all very hot. Two of them professionals working for big companies and the other one is a student. All of them telling me that they don't want anything to do with Colombian men because none of them want to commit and want to have many women at the same time. I am not sure what makes them think that we are any better. All 3 want to meet and have relationship. I am really confused.

1. Is this some kind of set up?

2. Is it just their culture?

3. Should I even consider meeting them when I am in Bogota or just stick with working girls?

Thanks in advance.

The Tall Man
02-11-18, 04:31
Bro,

Honestly in my opinion I think its more of a womans version if "game". They are looking for that lonely guy on here that will bite at the opportunity if have a beautiful exotic Colombian girlfriend. Their though process goes like this. Obviously any guy on Latina"cupid." Is looking for either love or sex. So if I get this guy to see me as a girlfriend and not as a working girl, I will have an advantage over the working girls. He will have to show me his sweet, affectionate, "giving" side. Its just a matter if time before she ask for money!True that about money, LISTEN ALL as I have experience on both CC and LAC for over 8 years, have had some great meet-ups, if they are between 18 and 30 NINETY-EIGHT (98%) percent are looking for money, if they are between 31 and lets say 45 EIGHTY percent are looking for money, over 45 it's probably FIFTY percent.

It is only a matter of time when they start asking about money and when they do they never stop. Hell I still have a rolo from 8 years ago asking (just got her text today), no shit welcome to Colombia!

But it is much cheaper than alimony and losing all or part of your hard earned dollars. REMEMBER this. The 3 F rule states that is it floats or fly's or fuck's only rent never buy.

TTM.

Xpartan
02-11-18, 04:37
At http://www.viaggio.com.co double occupancy is 20 000 which is reasonable as breakfast is included for the second guest.Thanks Routard, will look into Viaggio.

Mr Enternational
02-11-18, 04:51
Honestly in my opinion I think its more of a womans version if "game". They are looking for that lonely guy on here that will bite at the opportunity if have a beautiful exotic Colombian girlfriend. Their though process goes like this. Obviously any guy on Latina"cupid." Is looking for either love or sex.. Hmmm. So if any guy on Cupid is looking for either love or sex, what is every other guy that is not on Cupid looking for? You guys must have some pretty bad luck. I have been on Cupid since 2005 and out of maybe 100 trips to Colombia have met less than 5 chicks that were looking for money.

JjBee62
02-11-18, 06:36
Looking around in local Website I found this MILF in Bogota. Here is my reviews:

Name: Monica..Question:

Why would anyone visiting Colombia pay $100 for that? Seriously, that's worth no more than $20 anywhere in Colombia.

I guess another Bogota pimp has discovered ISG and thinks everyone is dumb enough to see a Bogota prepago that's asking 5 times what she's worth.

JjBee62
02-11-18, 12:53
Hmmm. So if any guy on Cupid is looking for either love or sex, what is every other guy that is not on Cupid looking for? You guys must have some pretty bad luck. I have been on Cupid since 2005 and out of maybe 100 trips to Colombia have met less than 5 chicks that were looking for money.The key words are "have met."

I stopped bothering with the Cupid sites over a year ago. When I used them my numbers of girls asking for money weren't nearly as high as TTM says, but there were plenty who, after a few days of messages would ask for something. This was always before, thereby ending any chance of, meeting.

No problem if she tells me she charges for her services. Big problem if she's conveniently got a family emergency and wants a stranger to fix it.

TheCarlAnthony
02-11-18, 17:04
Totally agree!

In my opinion "most" of the women on there are using the app for the same reason "most" of us are using it for. As a way to gain leverage. Just imagine how many men they meet on there coming to their town for a few days or weeks. Banging their brains out and leaving. The chances of a woman finding love or a real genuine relationship on here are "slim". Possible. But very slim. Most of them get jaded by us mongers. They start working us back by pretending they are vulnerable and on there looking for love and relationships but no damn well they are messaging 15 guys the same messages. I have a tactic! Once I'm talking to a girl I usually will give her the opportunity she is waiting on. Ill open conversations that would lead to discussing money and her lack there of. Every time they will bite and say can you send me just $XXX. XX. And then I stop responding. Rarely do you get a girl that says no I'm fine but thanks. Most of them have money in the back of their heads. Some are smart enough to wait until after you arrived to their country and drunkenly banged their brains out before they ask. But eventually. It will happen. Moms sick, cell phone bill, doctor bill, car broke down, college fees. They will have a story. Eventually some are just more patient than others


The key words are "have met."

I stopped bothering with the Cupid sites over a year ago. When I used them my numbers of girls asking for money weren't nearly as high as TTM says, but there were plenty who, after a few days of messages would ask for something. This was always before, thereby ending any chance of, meeting.

No problem if she tells me she charges for her services. Big problem if she's conveniently got a family emergency and wants a stranger to fix it.

YippieKayay
02-11-18, 18:16
On Colombian Cupid I noticed two types of responses:

The first is a whatsapp number and some flirtatious messaging. This was usually brief as they wanted me to contact them on whatsapp. Once on whatsapp they asked me where I was and when I'd be in their city. "Avisas mi cuando llegues" or something along those lines. These were prepagos. A few would plead poverty and ask for money right away.

The second type would ask me what I was expecting from the site. They would refer to the site as "pagina" or page. "que busca de esta pagina?" What are you searching in this page? This was a frequent question by those who did not want to just jump on whatsapp. I rarely engaged them except for one who would message me a few times throughout the day and bored me to tears. A thick MILF in Bogota. I honestly just wanted to doggy that shit for a week. Looking back I should have just offered money and come clean. Maybe she would have agreed to meet.

Eszpresszo
02-11-18, 18:29
The second type would ask me what I was expecting from the site.You will come across those questions on any kind of dating site or app, regardless of the location. Here in the US, all women seem to start the conversation with "So, what are you looking for here?" Its almost like a script and I have often wondered if it is a 'bot that is responding.

I came across it on Tagged, Hi5 and Badoo while trolling for freelance girls in Bali and Malaysia (next trip, next month). What they all seem to be saying is "I am looking for a committed relationship and you better be, too. " One girl from Belo Horizante saw me on Hi5, and pinged me with that opening line. When I didn't answer to her satisfaction, she said something like "I think you are not serious". So, I think that question is a global pain in the ass. I did meet some FL girls and none used that kind of verbiage.

The Tall Man
02-12-18, 08:19
Totally agree!

In my opinion "most" of the women on there are using the app for the same reason "most" of us are using it for. As a way to gain leverage. Just imagine how many men they meet on there coming to their town for a few days or weeks. Banging their brains out and leaving. The chances of a woman finding love or a real genuine relationship on here are "slim". Possible. But very slim. Most of them get jaded by us mongers. They start working us back by pretending they are vulnerable and on there looking for love and relationships but no damn well they are messaging 15 guys the same messages. I have a tactic! Once I'm talking to a girl I usually will give her the opportunity she is waiting on. Ill open conversations that would lead to discussing money and her lack there of. Every time they will bite and say can you send me just $XXX. XX. And then I stop responding. Rarely do you get a girl that says no I'm fine but thanks. Most of them have money in the back of their heads. Some are smart enough to wait until after you arrived to their country and drunkenly banged their brains out before they ask. But eventually. It will happen. Moms sick, cell phone bill, doctor bill, car broke down, college fees. They will have a story. Eventually some are just more patient than othersTrue story of a colombian cupid girl I meet maybe 5 or 6 years ago, she showed me her inbox or interest / likes and unread messages and I shit you not it was something like 800. Of course she was damn good looking but she got as I recall 20 to 30 interests and or messages each day.

TTM.

Mr Enternational
02-12-18, 09:21
Q: What are you looking for?

A: I want what you want.

Q: Are you having any luck on this site?

A. No. It seems all the women are after money/white guys (since I'm black - whatever you are, say the opposite)/visa/any other bullshit that you can think of.

I have met hundreds of chicks off Cupid and had plenty of real relationships. I do not think the chances are slim at all. At least they have never been for me. Most of my real girlfriends in the past few years I have met on there. Of course I speak the language of each place that I look for chicks. Some have used their own money to come see me in my country. Look for regular people with regular jobs if you want regular relationships. My girlfriend in Bogota works at an energy company and my girlfriend in Brazil is a school lunch lady. Neither has ever asked me for anything and they always pitch in to pay for stuff when we are together.

Of course women get tons of messages, afterall, they are women. That is why you have to make yourself standout by saying shit that nobody else is saying. It also helps if you know something about the place. I usually know more about where a chick lives than she does so she is intrigued. And I like to joke around a lot. I get messages from a lot of women only because they are angry that I put My Wallet as my best asset.

If you are just looking for a hooker then it is much easier and less time consuming to visit an onsite place once you are on the ground. Why go through all of that shit and having to worry about whether the person will be on time or even show up at all if fucking is all you want to do.

TheCarlAnthony
02-12-18, 23:06
Respect bro!

It just depends on the girl. Some are genuinely looking for a relationship. I agree! But I can promise you just as many are looking for that amazon package in the mail also from their "boyfriend". Cupid sites are just conduits for people with all intentions to connect. But if you ask women how many guys just wanted to come to their country and smash and dash during their 7 day vacation. They would tell you a lot. They would be naive to think most guys on there are genuinely looking for love. Switch shoes. It would be naive to also believe most girls are genuinely on there looking for love. They use the site too just like we do. They might see your pictures and profile and really like you and treat you like a king. Use their own money to come see you. Pay for stuff and everything. But at the same time, have 12 other guys on their that they are taking full financial advantage of. So for the guy who's asking if they are really just trying to get money from him. I'm going to say yes unless she proves otherwise. Just like she should see a guy when he first messages her with the heart eye emoji. Hes trying to smash as many girls in your country as possible once he arrives until he proves otherwise. A lot of these women are very jaded by tourist. Fact!


Q: What are you looking for?

A: I want what you want.

Q: Are you having any luck on this site?

A. No. It seems all the women are after money/white guys (since I'm black - whatever you are, say the opposite)/visa/any other bullshit that you can think of.

I have met hundreds of chicks off Cupid and had plenty of real relationships. I do not think the chances are slim at all. At least they have never been for me. Most of my real girlfriends in the past few years I have met on there. Of course I speak the language of each place that I look for chicks. Some have used their own money to come see me in my country. Look for regular people with regular jobs if you want regular relationships. My girlfriend in Bogota works at an energy company and my girlfriend in Brazil is a school lunch lady. Neither has ever asked me for anything and they always pitch in to pay for stuff when we are together..

TheCarlAnthony
02-12-18, 23:13
Totally agree on this! Cupid will get you a few girls that you can have a mental connection with once you arrive. But there are so many women there that will keep you busy if your paying. If you are not paying cold cash the only other way is to mentally get the panties so cupid is a good way to hack away at a girl in advance to prepare for your limited time once you arrive.


If you are just looking for a hooker then it is much easier and less time consuming to visit an onsite place once you are on the ground. Why go through all of that shit and having to worry about whether the person will be on time or even show up at all if fucking is all you want to do.

MobToatl88
02-13-18, 22:23
Hey guys,

I've thumbed through the first few pages but was wondering if I could get a few answers to specific questions.

I'm contemplating my first trip to Colombia, heard good things about Bogota. I'm still somewhat new to international mongering, my only experience outside the states has been 2 recent trips to Sosua DR, which as you may know is a great time but is also mongering for dummies, like fish in a barrel. Looking to take "the next step" so to speak. Would you guys recommend Colombia in general, and / or Bogota specifically? Keep in mind I'm a decent looking white guy with minimal Spanish language skills. Curious what the budget is for ST / LT / TLN. And any recommendations on hotels that are nice and chica friendly.

Thanks in advance!

Montani
02-15-18, 02:21
Hey guys,

I've thumbed through the first few pages but was wondering if I could get a few answers to specific questions.

I'm contemplating my first trip to Colombia, heard good things about Bogota. I'm still somewhat new to international mongering, my only experience outside the states has been 2 recent trips to Sosua DR, which as you may know is a great time but is also mongering for dummies, like fish in a barrel. Looking to take "the next step" so to speak. Would you guys recommend Colombia in general, and / or Bogota specifically? Keep in mind I'm a decent looking white guy with minimal Spanish language skills. Curious what the budget is for ST / LT / TLN. And any recommendations on hotels that are nice and chica friendly.

Thanks in advance!I suggest you forget about Bogota and go to medellin. Try reading some of the medellin posts. You may wish to consider staying at "the mansion", for someone on a first visit and that does not speak a lot of spanish, the mansion is a good choice. The chicas are onsite their and you should find plenty of willing company for around 150 K pesos. And, while you're there, go on a daytime visit to the el centro area downtown and visit some of the casas where you will find chicas for around 40/50 K pesos for full service short time /30 minutes. 60/75 K pesos for the hour. Finding a chica for all night is sometimes difficult as most of them have family obligations that prevent them from staying all night. Anyway, food is cheap, taxis are cheap, the weather is great. Forget Bogota for a first visit.

Routard
02-15-18, 14:37
You may wish to consider staying at "the mansion", for someone on a first visit and that does not speak a lot of spanish, the mansion is a good choice.Nothing against those who chose to stay in Mansion, it might be fine for some guys but it is defintively not to recommend for everybody. Some would feel like going to a zoo while in Kenya.

Eszpresszo
02-16-18, 03:29
Nothing against those who chose to stay in Mansion, it might be fine for some guys but it is defintively not to recommend for everybody. Some would feel like going to a zoo while in Kenya.Agreed. I speak only a few Spanish phrases but got around quite well on my own. Medellin isn't a hard town to navigate and the locals for the most part, are helpful folks. I used the Medellin Mongers Map and found where I needed to be okay. Its not in your face like some places in the DR or in Pattaya. You are looking for "casas" with no external signage or indicator that they are brothels. But, with a modest bit of searching you get rewarded for taking your carnal "safari". I liked Medellin because it offered a bit of adventure, as well as the fact that mongering is so cheap compared to other places. That said, I am probably ready for Bogota at some point in the near future.

Balboa
02-16-18, 23:52
Nothing against those who chose to stay in Mansion, it might be fine for some guys but it is defintively not to recommend for everybody. Some would feel like going to a zoo while in Kenya.Actually the Mansion is great, perfect actually, for newbies to get a kick start on Medellin.

Not a must of course, however, if you base your trip simply on following the gringo map from casa to casa, you'll be missing a lot and not even know it really.

Especially if your Spanish is limited.

Doesn't matter to me one way or another how someone spends their Medellin vacation, however, the great contacts, both girls and yes, some cool guys that can help guide you, is invaluable.

I've been visiting Colombia for about 20 years now, and I still pop in now and then to see what's up and make some new contacts.

Enjoy!

Eszpresszo
02-17-18, 01:20
Actually the Mansion is great, perfect actually, for newbies to get a kick start on Medellin.

Not a must of course, however, if you base your trip simply on following the gringo map from casa to casa, you'll be missing a lot and not even know it really.

Enjoy!That's why I did last time, so please hip me on to what I was missing and what I should be doing next time. I did also peruse the street walkers over on Cr. 54 near the Morgan Hotel after dark. A bit of excitement there. After doing that, is there anything special about the Mansion? Hanging out with other gringos and overpaying for girls? Obviously, there is more than just the monger map and I would sure like to know what it is, being the adventurous type. After I come back from SE Asia next month, I think it will be time to plan a visit to MDE again.

Pokeris
02-17-18, 08:35
Hello guys I will be at Bogota on easter Sunday just for 1 day do casas and strip clubs still be open on this day?

Balboa
02-17-18, 19:07
That's why I did last time, so please hip me on to what I was missing and what I should be doing next time. I did also peruse the street walkers over on Cr. 54 near the Morgan Hotel after dark. A bit of excitement there. After doing that, is there anything special about the Mansion? Hanging out with other gringos and overpaying for girls? Obviously, there is more than just the monger map and I would sure like to know what it is, being the adventurous type. After I come back from SE Asia next month, I think it will be time to plan a visit to MDE again.Just keep doing what you're doing.
You got it all figured out.

Eszpresszo
02-18-18, 16:53
Just keep doing what you're doing.
You got it all figured out.Seriously? Or are you just being snarky? Because I'm quite serious about knowing what I might have overlooked.

I'm not convinced that these forums cover all possible options. I am pretty sure a lot of mongering options are overlooked and underrated by many foreign mongers because they don't fit their mongering style, out of their comfort zone, or they can't be bothered to have an adventure. A bit of Groupthink going on, as I have noticed on certain other threads. And as a result there are the same predictable options reported here for many destinations.

TheCarlAnthony
02-19-18, 07:32
I've mongered a lot of places. Normally through escort services and brothels. I've never done the street prostitute thing. Just the thought of being in Bogota in a cab looking for street prostitutes seems awkward for me, the driver, etc etc LOL. Anyone ever dobe it without being in their own car. How does it work normally in Bogota? Do you tell the cabby to do laps until you pick one? I mean anyone have experience with this? Did they hop in with you and ride back to your Hotel? Did you follow them into some shanty building? Details?

World Travel 69
02-19-18, 18:40
If you walk around the Santa Fe area you will find Chicas in the doorways of Motels.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.609295333769353%2C-74.11865510430601&z=14


I've mongered a lot of places. Normally through escort services and brothels. I've never done the street prostitute thing. Just the thought of being in Bogota in a cab looking for street prostitutes seems awkward for me, the driver, etc etc LOL. Anyone ever dobe it without being in their own car. How does it work normally in Bogota? Do you tell the cabby to do laps until you pick one? I mean anyone have experience with this? Did they hop in with you and ride back to your Hotel? Did you follow them into some shanty building? Details?

WindAngel
02-19-18, 20:07
I've mongered a lot of places. Normally through escort services and brothels. I've never done the street prostitute thing. Just the thought of being in Bogota in a cab looking for street prostitutes seems awkward for me, the driver, etc etc LOL. Anyone ever dobe it without being in their own car. How does it work normally in Bogota? Do you tell the cabby to do laps until you pick one? I mean anyone have experience with this? Did they hop in with you and ride back to your Hotel? Did you follow them into some shanty building? Details?The girls usually are standing in front of the short time hotels in Santa Fe. You just take a walk in the area, and talk to the girl you like. They will take you inside the hotel. Other girls around the area not in front of the hotel, the process is the same. The bars usually have rooms on site, so you just get the service inside, mostly upstairs.

Drf1987
02-19-18, 20:20
It's really nothing to it. Like World Travel says get out of the cab and walk around where the strip clubs like Fiebre and Paisas are because the other side is loaded with trannies. The girls stand there waiting to service you. I was there last year and had three very cost efficient very hot sessions. And don't worry about seeming awkward, sex for money doesn't carry the same stigma as it does in prudish old America. Have fun.


If you walk around the Santa Fe area you will find Chicas in the doorways of Motels.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.609295333769353%2C-74.11865510430601&z=14

Troyster
02-19-18, 23:31
Hey Amigos. Curious to know your thoughts. I have experience mainly in Brazil and The Middle East. Coming down and wondered if it is safe and worth it to go to one of the big places solo? I speak average Spanish and can understand more than I speak. Will it just be a pain dealing with girls trying to rip me off? I am gringo and look gringo, can't hide it. I have done in call In Bogota years ago and it was good, not great (escort agency).

GreatScott
02-20-18, 05:27
Any suggestions for a hotel near Santa Fe? Seems like the place to be for a first timer. Planning a trip this Wed-Sunday.

Big Bossman
02-20-18, 14:37
Hey Amigos. Curious to know your thoughts. I have experience mainly in Brazil and The Middle East. Coming down and wondered if it is safe and worth it to go to one of the big places solo? I speak average Spanish and can understand more than I speak. Will it just be a pain dealing with girls trying to rip me off? I am gringo and look gringo, can't hide it. I have done in call In Bogota years ago and it was good, not great (escort agency).I'm here solo right now. Routard's guide is great, use it. No problems at all. Check out the maps to get a sense of locations. Wish I had other hobbyists to catch up with, but that being said the pussy supply still flows. Tons of beautiful chicas all around.

JjBee62
02-20-18, 16:46
Seriously? Or are you just being snarky? Because I'm quite serious about knowing what I might have overlooked.

I'm not convinced that these forums cover all possible options. I am pretty sure a lot of mongering options are overlooked and underrated by many foreign mongers because they don't fit their mongering style, out of their comfort zone, or they can't be bothered to have an adventure. A bit of Groupthink going on, as I have noticed on certain other threads. And as a result there are the same predictable options reported here for many destinations.Most of the mongering options have been covered. There's the streetwalkers, the clubs, casas, massage parlors, swingers clubs, Facebook, Tinder, Colombian Cupid, Seeking arrangements, online ads, girls working regular clubs and asking the taxi driver. There's also places like Flirt hotel or the Mansion and escort services.

Probably the area that is least utilized outside of Medellin is Facebook. My connections are leading me to plenty of chicas all over Colombia, many who look like good prospects for P4P. Not a single gringo in any of their friends lists.

If I was searching for uncharted waters, I'd start chatting up the girls in all the out of the way places. It probably means more traveling and Spanish skills will be important, but that's where the gems are. You can even start with Bogota.

Routard
02-20-18, 22:18
Any suggestions for a hotel near Santa Fe? Seems like the place to be for a first timer. Planning a trip this Wed-Sunday.No, Santa Fe or the Centro is definitvely inot the place to stay at a hotel for a first timer. I recommend to stay close to Zona T or Parque 93 for your first vist in Bogota.

Drf1987
02-21-18, 05:34
I stayed at hotel San Francisco walking distance to Santa Fe. It was a nice place clean and quiet. Several restaurants and bars nearby.


Any suggestions for a hotel near Santa Fe? Seems like the place to be for a first timer. Planning a trip this Wed-Sunday.

Rodeo9112
02-22-18, 06:05
Hello guys I will be at Bogota on easter Sunday just for 1 day do casas and strip clubs still be open on this day?Hey everybody,

I thought I'd bump the question as I have the same question, though broader. I am considering ending my Medellin-Bogota trip with overlap in Bogota during March 29-April 1. Will there be many / any casas or massage places open during this time? I've heard Medellin will be a bust. So, I thought I'd check on Bogota since its a bigger city. Another option I'm considering is Aruba during that time. Thanks!

LatinaLover#1
02-22-18, 09:11
Hello guys I will be at Bogota on Easter Sunday just for 1 day do casas and strip clubs still be open on this day?If you don't already have a novia in Bogota you will be most likely be shit out of luck. I avoid the entire the Semana Santa in all Latin Countries. Especially Easter Sunday! I have been to a few countries during Easter week but it was always with a girlfriend and her family or we would go to a beach resort for the week. You might get lucky at one of the beach towns but I highly doubt it and Bogota. Forget it. Maybe Santa Fe, check with Woodman about that. You can expect most businesses and even restaurants to be closed too.

Pokeris
02-22-18, 13:12
If you don't already have a novia in Bogota you will be most likely be shit out of luck. I avoid the entire the Semana Santa in all Latin Countries. Especially Easter Sunday! I have been to a few countries during Easter week but it was always with a girlfriend and her family or we would go to a beach resort for the week. You might get lucky at one of the beach towns but I highly doubt it and Bogota. Forget it. Maybe Santa Fe, check with Woodman about that. You can expect most businesses and even restaurants to be closed too.: the I know its not best day to have fun, but I don't have other options I stay just easter Sunday at Bogota because I have next day fly to diffrent country. Hope will find some places at santa fe.

WindAngel
02-22-18, 14:16
I stayed at hotel San Francisco walking distance to Santa Fe. It was a nice place clean and quiet. Several restaurants and bars nearby.The windows are not soundproof, and the TransMilenio is right in front of the hotel so the street side is very noisy. Ask the hotel to give you a room not on the street side. They can be fully booked and not be able to move you. I decided to move out after one night.

Joe100
02-23-18, 06:35
So friggen great! Could not swing a dead cat without hitting a pretty girl. Less guys on Thursday. Tons of hot chicas on the streets and tons more in Fiebre, La Casona, Paisa, Venus- and the others.
It seems the Venezuelans are grouped in some clubs and they are fun! I was dirty dancing with a few. Check out La Casona, Lion, Venus, Punto Oro for the hot Venezuelans and tons more on the streets. Wednesdays are good too.Amen to that! It's been 9 long years since I was in Colombia and Bogota. I started off my trip in Medellin last week, then Jardin (non-mongering obviously but excellent), Pereira (only for an overnight. It wasn't good but then it's not supposed to be really. I guess if you were there for a long time, then it could be worked out). And now since earlier this evening. Bogota.

I'm 15 minutes walk from Santa Fe. My memory isn't great but from what I do remember, Santa Fe was never this great! OMG! - I've never seen so many gorgeous women in one place. It's like having a pocket full of dollars in a candy shop. I just didn't know which way to twist or turn. The neutrons were sparking a short circuit with the wonderful pussy in every direction. My memories of Santa Fe back then were not like this. Granted back then I did more afternoons than nights (I was green and was trying to look after my personal safety). But even the few nights I did try it, I doubt it was this good.

I didn't try all of the 'clubs' but tried a good few. I have to say. I also don't remember these damn guys hustling for business. It's overbearing. They're like flies on shit. I refuse to deal with them and go out of my way to insure they get no kickback from me ordering a beer at the bar. I know that may sound mean but I just can't support a role which just serves to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) people off.

I hooked up with a nice little Venezuelan chick. She was on a street corner and I was getting interested when those bloody guys in the white shirts interrupted and put me off. Went to Venus and the 3 girls turned up there. Made the deal with her for 50 k and headed over the road to a 'hotel'. She was a hot little thing but she was also sweet and sexy all in the one package. Not jaded by this work yet. She was as wet as a fish.

Whats the story with the girls in these clubs? Can they simply go into any club they like? I don't think I've seen that anywhere else in the World.


I walked the 15 minutes there - there were still a few normal people around at that time. I also walked the way back - there was hardly a soul on the streets. I didn't feel one bit threatened.

JjWalker03
02-23-18, 21:41
Greetings from Miami Guys,

Know there's tons of reports for all of Colombia but I thought I'the share my recent experience in Bogota. After all, I hate forum members that don't contribute. Trip started in early December visiting family. Could only spend a couple hours by myself but I made sure to take advantage of it. During the days I would hit las casas, in particular Chicas Milenio (Calle 71 # 14 A-20, white door) and Chicas 2000 (brown gate across the street). There are men standing there asking for you to enter, and they'll have the door open. Guys try these houses! The value is incredible, you'the be paying 150-200 per hour in the States. For both, you enter and they take you into a small room where the girls present themselves. Hit these places like 6 times while I was in Bogota. On average I'the say the girls were 6. 5 but there's a few stunners! Especially the Venezuelans (yum). Prices are from what I remember 30 k for 30 min. 45 k for 45 and 60 k for 1 hour (Might be getting confused. Don't quote me on the prices. The variety is OK, there's between 5-8 girls in each house, mostly triqueńas but a few negras as well.

At night I took a shot at Santa Fe. First, ufff, this place is rough. No lie, get an Uber and don't get out until you get there. Lots of murders happen in this area. The entrances of the popular clubs are safe but don't walk more than 2 meters out. Serious. Stay safe. Hit Paisas Club and La Picina. First Paisas Club is a god send. Serious there were some gorgeous women and only at 50-60 k a pop! $20! Jesssusss! Anyway found a girl for Pereira, gorgeous ass and breast. Breast were real, don't know about the ass, blonde highlights. A real Paisa. Might be in the top 3 women I have ever shacked with. La picina was a disgrace, no one was there. Seems like the girls are able to leave and come as they want, and the place gets more packed later at night 10+.

Life Lesson: Makes sure you have a good connection when it comes to your phone. My phone lost connection and my Uber couldn't find me. The buildings these strip clubs are in are tall, so get signal is hard. Make sure you get a Colombian phone to hit this place. Had to take a taxi. Which if you watch the news, isn't recommended in Bogota, unless you call it in. Made it safe but wouldn't do it again. Although that ass from Pereira was delish haha.

Tip: Use Uber. It's safer and easier. You can pay both on card and cash. Also sit in the front seat, it seems that taxis attack the Uber's since they are stealing business.

Happy hunting, PM me for details.

Joe100
02-25-18, 16:08
At night I took a shot at Santa Fe. First, ufff, this place is rough. No lie, get an Uber and don't get out until you get there. Lots of murders happen in this area. The entrances of the popular clubs are safe but don't walk more than 2 meters out. Serious. Stay safe. .....Life Lesson: Makes sure you have a good connection when it comes to your phone. My phone lost connection and my Uber couldn't find me. The buildings these strip clubs are in are tall, so get signal is hard. Make sure you get a Colombian phone to hit this place. Had to take a taxi. Which if you watch the news, isn't recommended in Bogota, unless you call it in. Made it safe but wouldn't do it again. Although that ass from Pereira was delish haha.Perhaps I'm lulling myself into a false sense of security and will be crying into my cornflakes before long. However, whilst scumbags abound in this location, I didn't feel that I was ever in a situation that was out of hand although I'm sure there's potential if you drop your guard. I've milled about that area for the past few nights. I've also walked back to my hotel - 20 minutes away. I walk with purpose and I keep my radar up at all times, don't interact with scumbags that try to engage me on the streets (as that's never going to be an interaction that leads to anything positive) and keep moving. I enjoy a few beers but make sure that I don't stay so long as to get twisted.

Troya seems to have the best talent. Also, the grill just outside the door is excellent. These guys out on the street (touting to bring you in to a club) are a complete menace. They really destroy the experience. I don't get what the deal is either. Originally, I thought they were looking for a tip or that I'd end up paying more for beer with them having 'brought me in' (and believe me, none of them have brought me in anywhere!) but that doesn't seem to be the case. Some of the time, they get a token from the barman but this doesn't seem to be coming out of the price of my beer. What's incredibly annoying still is when entering a club and just wanting to chill and take it all in, they're hanging out of you. I feel like bursting the head off them and did lose my temper with about 5 of them swarmed around me ....not smart at all on my part but I just couldn't help it.

I visited a couple of the day casas earlier in the week. I have to say I find it awkward when they present the girls and they all stand there waiting for your choice! Not a problem if you have a choice to make but when you don't?. Other places, at least they do the line up and the girls shuffle away again. Visited 2 places and had to pass. The guy took me to a place a block away and there was one chica there that caught my eye. Can't argue with the value for money aspect regardless of the line up. Although I'd love to visit a place that's as good as New Life in Medellin. They've got a good setup. Fine girls, good choice, clean girls and clean place

Turgid
02-25-18, 18:08
.... I have to say I find it awkward when they present the girls and they all stand there waiting for your choice! Not a problem if you have a choice to make but when you don't?. Other places, at least they do the line up and the girls shuffle away again....The vast majority of casas worldwide present the girls one by one. However, I much prefer when all the girls are in front of me; its much easier to make a decision. In places like Energy in Medellin where there can be over 20 girls in the lineup I invariably have to ask the mamasan to ask some of the previous girls to show themselves again and I must walk with pen and paper to note the names of the girls so I can make the best choice possible.

The Tall Man
02-25-18, 19:49
The vast majority of casas worldwide present the girls one by one. However, I much prefer when all the girls are in front of me; its much easier to make a decision. In places like Energy in Medellin where there can be over 20 girls in the lineup I invariably have to ask the mamasan to ask some of the previous girls to show themselves again and I must walk with pen and paper to note the names of the girls so I can make the best choice possible.Funny I do the same with "pen and paper" to jot down either their name or number (sometimes displayed on their bikinis) otherwise my brain gets literally lost with meeting 20 plus chicas.

TTM.

Woodman09
02-25-18, 22:19
Glad to hear other Gringos are having fun in SF!! I was there Friday 2-23 showing a someone around. As usual Super Cute girls on the street -Streety Sweeties- all around. Went into all the clubs accept Picina-- There is a new club called Ibiza, next to Castillo. I think they are probably expensive compared to others in Santa Fe—Looks Nice though.

Spent a lot of time in California—That is another club with lotsa Venezolanas. We partied with a few girls was – If you are fun they are fun! If you can be smooth it's so fucking great you can check their boobs and grab-ass / pussy with impunity! Girls will be doing lap dances for 2-4+ guys at once they look like they are being gang-banged-- 3-4 girls doing lapdances around you is like a West World orgy.

I sessioned there for 40 milThere are 2 new clubs on 16 a, Eiffel and Eclipse, all new—Went into Eclipse they had girls all wearing the same dress—I was tempted to session with one but I was guiding.

There are so many clubs and not enough guys so the touts are just obnoxious—I'm say, Ya Regresso or Despues or No Puedo—They can be relentless.

Sometimes I will give them 1 mil just to get them to leave me alone.

With the wacky Metoo world we live in I wonder how long a place like SF can exist—What about all the writings here—how long before we are condemned?

JHappyDog
02-26-18, 01:39
No, Santa Fe or the Centro is definitvely inot the place to stay at a hotel for a first timer. I recommend to stay close to Zona T or Parque 93 for your first vist in Bogota.I took Routard's advice and stayed by Parque 93. Nice safe area and within walking distance or short taxi ride to many choices.

Thanks again are.

Eszpresszo
02-26-18, 03:52
If I was searching for uncharted waters, I'd start chatting up the girls in all the out of the way places. It probably means more traveling and Spanish skills will be important, but that's where the gems are. You can even start with Bogota.That sounds like a call to action. And time to get serious about learning Spanish. Off the beaten path. But, first I need to get SE Asia out of the way next month.

Rodeo9112
02-26-18, 07:27
If you don't already have a novia in Bogota you will be most likely be shit out of luck. I avoid the entire the Semana Santa in all Latin Countries. Especially Easter Sunday! I have been to a few countries during Easter week but it was always with a girlfriend and her family or we would go to a beach resort for the week. You might get lucky at one of the beach towns but I highly doubt it and Bogota. Forget it. Maybe Santa Fe, check with Woodman about that. You can expect most businesses and even restaurants to be closed too.With the new Venezuelan influx, I wonder if it will be a little different in terms of girls available during this time. Essentially, a lot of the girls are in country as refugees with no family in country and no willingness to go back to Venezuela.

JjWalker03
02-26-18, 14:30
Santa Fe is definitely dangerous. Not trying to seem preachy but look at this map of murders in Bogota. Santa Fe, especially the area with the strip clubs is lit up. It's safe around the clubs, just be careful.

Also, be careful with your drinks, Colombian women are notorious for drugging people and stealing everything they can. They'll take you to the bank and try to empty out as much as possible.

Sorry, don't mean to be a Debbie downer, but I think you guys should know. I'm an expat (well not really, came to the US super young).

Turgid
02-26-18, 14:50
.....Sometimes I will give them 1 mil just to get them to leave me alone....We have a different modus operandi which is understandable as different people react differently even to the same situation. My experience has taught me to always resist giving money to people who have rendered no service to me especially if they are able bodied. If these same guys see you on another occasion they will hound you down more than they would have if you never gave them money. If no one pays them any attention they will find another mode of 'employment'.

Joe100
02-26-18, 16:45
If these same guys see you on another occasion they will hound you down more than they would have if you never gave them money. If no one pays them any attention they will find another mode of 'employment'.I agree completely. However, the bars are the ones paying them from what I can see. It's a shame that the bar owners can't put their heads together and figure out that this most frustrating circus only serves to destroy business down there rather than increase it.

None of those guys have led me anywhere but they're like flies on s**t. It's not just the hassling on the street. When I check out a bar, I want to get a sense of the place, whether I want to stay in it, etc. There's nothing worse than these guys pressuring you. I really can't stand it. They don't get 'paid' until you order a drink. I order all my drinks at the bar. Yet we still have the ludicrous scenario where one of these guys stands beside me at the bar and tries to order it for me (and sometimes succeeds) - so the transaction goes between 3 parties rather than 2.

I know these guys must be pretty desperate to work a 'job' like that but it's cringeworthy that their 'job' is so utterly pointless.

Routard
02-26-18, 18:15
I agree completely. . It's a shame that the bar owners can't put their heads together and figure out that this most frustrating circus only serves to destroy business down there rather than increase it.I agree 200%. Trouble is that these club owners have very low level in tems of marketing skills. Needless to try to argue with the employees, they are just paid for it. I discussed once with an owner trying to explain that he is paying somebody for a counterproductive work, but he just couldn't get it. I always avoid as a plague any restaurant with someone with a flag in front to try to get you in as most are indeed ripp offs. Same for the clubs, I just avoid the ones with hassling employees. It's that not that is a lack of offer anyway for us that we just have to accept to be hassled.

Travv
02-26-18, 18:45
To get rid of the persistent pests after tips, I have learned to stock up on cheap candy after Halloween or Valentine's day when it is on sale and keep a couple of pieces in your pocket when walking around. Blowpop suckers, tootsie rolls in bags etc for 99 cents etc as cheap as possible. Then when you are hassled for tips by the undeserving, hand them a piece of candy and walk away! Works like a charm and costs almost nothing for peace of mind.


We have a different modus operandi which is understandable as different people react differently even to the same situation. My experience has taught me to always resist giving money to people who have rendered no service to me especially if they are able bodied. If these same guys see you on another occasion they will hound you down more than they would have if you never gave them money. If no one pays them any attention they will find another mode of 'employment'.

Woodman09
02-26-18, 23:35
With the new Venezuelan influx, I wonder if it will be a little different in terms of girls available during this time. Essentially, a lot of the girls are in country as refugees with no family in country and no willingness to go back to Venezuela.I was wondering the same- I think there will be a few of these pretty girls working the street.

Mr Enternational
02-27-18, 04:08
Then when you are hassled for tips by the undeserving, hand them a piece of candy and walk away! Works like a charm and costs almost nothing for peace of mind.Telling them no also works like a charm and truly costs nothing! (Not sure what kind of peace of mind you get from giving someone candy.).

Joe100
02-27-18, 09:20
Telling them no also works like a charm and truly costs nothing! (Not sure what kind of peace of mind you get from giving someone candy.).Maybe the candy is laced with scopolomine and you can instruct them all to make their way to the set of The Walking Dead?

No usually works for everyone else. However, they are the exception. You can ignore them but one of them will 'attach' itself to you and stick to you like crap on a blanket. At the end of the day, you're going to walk into one of the bars and they'll then get their token from the barman....then try and highjack your drinks order. When I do ignore them (and I always do), one of them will put their greasy hand on your back. Drives me demented.

The Tall Man
02-27-18, 23:09
To get rid of the persistent pests after tips, I have learned to stock up on cheap candy after Halloween or Valentine's day when it is on sale and keep a couple of pieces in your pocket when walking around. Blowpop suckers, tootsie rolls in bags etc for 99 cents etc as cheap as possible. Then when you are hassled for tips by the undeserving, hand them a piece of candy and walk away! Works like a charm and costs almost nothing for peace of mind.I am going to see for myself in the next two weeks as I have a visit to SF area planned BUT with a colombian friend of mine who grew up dirt poor in medellin, I am sure he will handle it, jajajaja.

I will report back my experiences on the hassling.

TTM.

Intltvlr
03-01-18, 19:08
Gents,

I'm heading there tonight until Sunday or Monday. I've read many of the pages here and appreciate the info I will add to this forum daily if possible. And hopefully more on the photo gallery.

Arcangel
03-02-18, 00:16
I'm in Bogota for the best part of a week now. I've tried different places and found that the quality of the experience is directly proportional to the street number. In other words, my session at calle 100 was five times as good as my session at calle 20.

The first data point was an hour with massage (100 k) at the mezannine (calle 103) where I found a very cute girl. She had the rarest of sights, some hair above her pussy, which is something I love.

The second data point was in a bar in SantaFe RLD (calle 23) where I chose a morena flaca. In the room it turns out her shapely tits are fake, but not of silicone but of fibreglass, at least that's how hard they felt. Her attitude was similar. I had asked her if she kisses and the said yes but in the room her lips wouldn't touch anything but the condom. I had asked how long and she said half an hour, but after 15 minutes there was the dreaded knock on the door. She at least gave me a minute to finish, but she was out the door before I had taken the condom off.

I don't know about "street sweeties", all the girls there look like hardened pros to me, and some on the streets look very young.

Another good experience was a very tight Venezolana at Tantra Spa carrera 20 a #72-30. This place is marked wrong on WT69 map where it is shown on cra 20 c. Here BBBJ is included in the standard rate of 50 k 30 min, 60 k 40 min, 70 k 50 min, 80 k 60 min.

If I extrapolate my data to south Bogota, the experience would have to be negative, which could mean you get robbed or hurt or both.

All in all, trust in Routard's Bogota FAQ, it is spot on in everything.

Turgid
03-02-18, 14:57
.... but she was out the door before I had taken the condom off.....Not necessarily hardcore, just a woman who really hates her job.

Tavares
03-02-18, 18:35
I agree 200%. Trouble is that these club owners have very low level in tems of marketing skills. Needless to try to argue with the employees, they are just paid for it. I discussed once with an owner trying to explain that he is paying somebody for a counterproductive work, but he just couldn't get it. I always avoid as a plague any restaurant with someone with a flag in front to try to get you in as most are indeed ripp offs. Same for the clubs, I just avoid the ones with hassling employees. It's that not that is a lack of offer anyway for us that we just have to accept to be hassled.I will be in Bogota next week flying from Europe. As far as I know, not very good hotels in or close to Santa Fe area.

Routard,

If you are available to show me around a bit it would be perfect. Spanish not a problem and Routard sounds to me french or french canadian. Thanks.

Tavares.

Travv
03-02-18, 19:12
If the candy "bribe" doesn't work to get rid of the shoeshine dude, tout, beggar, talon or whatever, one method I learned by accident will. I had a shoeshine guy hassling me and he was so busy talking to me asking for money that he didn't see the lamppost. He ran into that sucker, fell to the ground, and I kept walking. Telephone poles and lampposts can be helpful!


I am going to see for myself in the next two weeks as I have a visit to SF area planned BUT with a colombian friend of mine who grew up dirt poor in medellin, I am sure he will handle it, jajajaja.

I will report back my experiences on the hassling.

TTM.

Intltvlr
03-02-18, 22:47
OK. Arrived last night. Checked into the Marriott by the airport around midnight.

Hit up Lidl. Today I hit Santa Fe. Now taking a break and probably back to SF. Not sure yet.

If anyone has any recommendations from recent trips please PM me. I got a driver so I can get around.

My friend is not a good monger. I will write detailed report as soon as I can.

Ohhh. And don't recommend places like LIDL that the first girl told me 300 for 1 hour +80 for the room.

I almost smacked her.

But a place like that where the girls are not crazy that would be cool.

I'm thinking of piscina for later tonight.

Intltvlr
03-04-18, 00:14
So a little background.

I'm 42 good looking. Great Spanish.

20 times to Brazil.

10 times to Europe.

10 times from Central America and Caribbean.

My friend is a mongger's worst nightmare. He's the asshole that gives these girls the balls to ask for exorbitant amounts. You know the type.

So it's a little after midnight and our driver from the Marriott takes us to Lidl.

He figured we are rich assholes with more money than brains.

When we arrived and the walked through the doors. Playboy mantion was the only thing that came to mind.

About 60 girls. 85% are 10's. The rest are 9's. And maybe there might have been 3 that I would consider 8. However my friends. At least 4 girls I would have to give them 11 or 12. That's how hot they were.

Drinks. 40,000 pesos for a corona that's their cheapest drink. Some bottles were upwards of 2 million pesos.

There's a couple of girls that provide nude shows.

None of the girls seemed to be enjoying themselves. All were looking for a target. Not a very happy atmosphere. My idiot friend ended up spending about 400 USD just on drinks and tipping the girls that would sit with him. So sad.

We end up staying until closing. We did not take any girls home. And he got wasted.

Now. I did not know that Bogota is so high up. Higher then Colorado supposedly. Altitude does take a huge effect on how much you can drink. I also didn't realize that it's not that warm here. LOL. I packed for summer. Big mistake.

Anyway. I highly recommend that everyone hit this spot to have a drink just to say you have been there. Other than that. No thank you.

The first girl that sat with us asked for 80 USD for the room and 300 USD for her.

Second girl. 28 yo amazing girl. Asked for 180 USD For her.

Third girl at the end of the night asked for 120 USD for her. She was around 35 yo typical huge fake tits and ass.

Didn't find out how much barfine is since we weren't taking them out.

More to come on day 2 when I get a chance. And you guys are going to hate me LOL.

JetDork
03-04-18, 17:56
How stupid would I be heading down to Sante Fe on my own?

Understanding it is not a truly safe place, is it so much of a war zone that an individual who is aware of his surroundings, doesn't get hammered in the clubs, etc, still should not take a taxi to a club? Or just not club hop?

Just curious to see the show.

PerroChino
03-04-18, 18:57
Great report and love to hear you busting on your novice wing you have in tow.

I was in Santa Fe this weekend and was crowded as fuck but you can't beat the supply of some 500 or more girls to choose from between all the clubs and those on the street. I am a pick mofo so I hate looking at prepago sites where photo looks good and then get disappointed when she shows up at your door. Awkward. In Santa Fe its all there right in front of you and you get a chance to talk with the girl and get a feel for her before you decide.

Looking forward to reading your day 2 report, I suspect its going to be about your adventure in santa fe.


So a little background.

I'm 42 good looking. Great Spanish.

20 times to Brazil.

10 times to Europe.

10 times from Central America and Caribbean.

My friend is a mongger's worst nightmare. He's the asshole that gives these girls the balls to ask for exorbitant amounts. You know the type.

So it's a little after midnight and our driver from the Marriott takes us to Lidl.

He figured we are rich assholes with more money than brains.

When we arrived and the walked through the doors..

Tacoma101
03-04-18, 19:15
Hey gents.

First time to Bogota next week. Thank you Routard for your guide. Much appreciated.

Does anyone have an update on the Monasterio events? Still going on as mentioned in the guide? Reverse Gang bang event anytime soon?

Thanks.

Taco.

Intltvlr
03-04-18, 20:29
First. Thank you perrochino. My pleasure. But you need to wait on my very detailed report of day 2. Which just happened to be the greatest day of my LIFE and you're right. Sure has to do with Santa Fe.

Ok. So here we go.

Yesterday I was taken to zona Rosa. Regular área to meet regular girls. Very nice spots to eat. I don't have time to make girlfriends. Neither do I want to. I'm here for P4P and if something else happens so be it. But I'm not wining and dinning anyone. But since you do need to eat. I recommend this area very much.

After that we w my to the neighborhood where mansion is at. I believe Avenida 1 de maio. (Not sure). Anyway.

Pereira was my first stop. Saturday night by the way. There's about 35 girls all around the 6 range. You might find a lost hot one. But don't count on it. Atmosphere was ok. Couple of locals dancing with the girls. Definitely a place you can waste a girl's time and she won't care. Not my scene. I left.

Mansion 2nd stop. I had good expectations. It's fucking tiny. They should rename it closet. I walked out as fast as I walked in.

Las Vegas 3rd stop climbed the fucking 4 floors to walk into a small ass place. Where everyone looked like they are in detention.

I left.

Went to Santa Fe.

Now! I know we should all expect a certain risk in this hobby and I don't recommend anyone going out of their comfort zone.

But my friends. I believe I came up with the schematics to help everyone out.

1st Santa Fe during the day. I personally felt safe walking around. Keep in mind. It's only really 5 blocks that have any action. And most of it is in 3 blocks. So come on. Grow some balls. And there plenty of cops.

1st step. Go get laid in Santa Fe. Forget all other spots. Forget massage parlors. Forget everything. During the day the outdoor action is great.

2nd step. (And here is the Gold) some of the girls that work at paisas and all the other houses at night. They work outside during the day. WTF why pay 70,000 pesos at paisas or anywhere else? When you can walk across the street and get laid for 35,000. Soooo my friends. I'm a smoker and some of these casas you cannot smoke. So I stay in a casa watch all the shows talk a bit to the girls. But not enough for them to get comfortable unless I really like them. Get all worked up. Go for a cigarette walk across the street or around the block. Go fuck a hottie for 35,000 and then I go back into the casa to have another drink. Now you get it? LOL. Not to mention places like piscina that I got quoted as high as 400 USD for barfine and TLN. Anyway. It's been 3 nights 2 days so far. And it's been 8 girls. Details to come. Right now. Back to mongering time is wasting.

Routard
03-04-18, 22:06
Hey gents.

First time to Bogota next week. Thank you Routard for your guide. Much appreciated.

Does anyone have an update on the Monasterio events? Still going on as mentioned in the guide? Reverse Gang bang event anytime soon?

Thanks.

Taco.Yes, but you missed the reverse gang bang, it was last Thursday. And it was amazing! Next is in June.

Routard
03-04-18, 22:33
After that we w my to the neighborhood where mansion is at. I believe Avenida 1 de maio. (Not sure). Anyway.

Mansion 2nd stop. I had good expectations. It's fucking tiny. They should rename it closet. I walked out as fast as I walked in.

Thanks for your report. I Have no idea however where you entered, but it's not the Mansion. The Mansion is a swing club in Chapinero that cannot be described as tiny.

Jicks
03-05-18, 01:55
I visited last week, Santa Fe is safe during day. Stay between calle 22 & 24; west of Carrera 14.


How stupid would I be heading down to Sante Fe on my own?

Understanding it is not a truly safe place, is it so much of a war zone that an individual who is aware of his surroundings, doesn't get hammered in the clubs, etc, still should not take a taxi to a club? Or just not club hop?

Just curious to see the show.

Woodman09
03-05-18, 06:27
LOL. Yes. Streetie Sweeties! $35.000 -$50.000. I fall in Love every month at least.


Went to Santa Fe.

Now! I know we should all expect a certain risk in this hobby and I don't recommend anyone going out of their comfort zone.

But my friends. I believe I came up with the schematics to help everyone out.

1st Santa Fe during the day. I personally felt safe walking around. Keep in mind. It's only really 5 blocks that have any action. And most of it is in 3 blocks. So come on. Grow some balls. And there plenty of cops.

1st step. Go get laid in Santa Fe. Forget all other spots. Forget massage parlors. Forget everything. During the day the outdoor action is great.

2nd step. (And here is the Gold) some of the girls that work at paisas and all the other houses at night. They work outside during the day. WTF why pay 70,000 pesos at paisas or anywhere else? When you can walk across the street and get laid for 35,000. Soooo my friends. I'm a smoker and some of these casas you cannot smoke. So I stay in a casa watch all the shows talk a bit to the girls. But not enough for them to get comfortable unless I really like them. Get all worked up. Go for a cigarette walk across the street or around the block. Go fuck a hottie for 35,000 and then I go back into the casa to have another drink. Now you get it? LOL. Not to mention places like piscina that I got quoted as high as 400 USD for barfine and TLN. Anyway. It's been 3 nights 2 days so far. And it's been 8 girls. Details to come. Right now. Back to mongering time is wasting.

Joe100
03-05-18, 14:12
How stupid would I be heading down to Sante Fe on my own?

Understanding it is not a truly safe place, is it so much of a war zone that an individual who is aware of his surroundings, doesn't get hammered in the clubs, etc, still should not take a taxi to a club? Or just not club hop?

Just curious to see the show.Leave the phone at home. Take your peso out of your wallet. Leave wallet and cards at home and just have whatever cash you need with you. Have a few drinks but not so much as you've lost control. Make sure all drinks are opened in front of you. Keep your radar up. And other than that, enjoy.

Arcangel
03-06-18, 05:39
So, to prove wrong the rule I just formulated, I had a very good experience at calle 65. In the dive bars in this area you can have a quickie for 25 k, but the girls are well worn and you get what you pay for. At the other end of the scale there's:

Nenas Bogota in the hotel at calle 65 #14-37.

You go upstairs and at the reception you pay 10 k to be allowed in to see the girls (they promise to give back your 10 k if you come out within 5 mins). I was presented 8 fine looking girls and chose a tall thin Venezolana (24), beautiful like a Bollywood filmstar, with augmented breasts, and very friendly attitude. In Venezuela she was an accounting graduate and engineering student. , now she works in Bogota to feed her family. The session is 60 mins for 150 k. Open Mon.-sat 24 h.

I thought that between WT69 and Routard, every place in Bogota was documented. But I found one that's not on the map:

Akira Spa, Cra 24 #52-68 (near mall Galerias), white door, ring bell 301,9 am-9 pm, sun -6 pm.

Massage+FS 60 mins 150 k, tel+whatsapp 3223712050.

Akira is a bit like the massage places at the Mezannine, only better in every way. 10 girls in the lineup, all of them good looking in a classy way, good attitude and aim to please. The facilities are nice, especially the rooms. Whereas at the Mezannine you have tiny cubicles with a tall bed barely wide enough to fuck on, at Akira the rooms are generous and the beds are big and clean and at ground level. The massage is better, too. They even have a sauna to relax in after your session, but if you want it to be warm, they have to turn it on when you arrive. With the sauna it's a little bit like FKK, only that the girls in Colombia are much nicer.

KangarooTed
03-06-18, 08:58
So it's a little after midnight and our driver from the Marriott takes us to Lidl.

...

When we arrived and the walked through the doors. Playboy mantion was the only thing that came to mind.

About 60 girls. 85% are 10's. The rest are 9's. And maybe there might have been 3 that I would consider 8. However my friends. At least 4 girls I would have to give them 11 or 12. That's how hot they were.

Drinks. 40,000 pesos for a corona that's their cheapest drink. Some bottles were upwards of 2 million pesos.

Anyway. I highly recommend that everyone hit this spot to have a drink just to say you have been there. Other than that. No thank you..Thanks for the report.

I've checked a few maps etc and have no idea what or where Lidl is. Unless you were in a budget supermarket?

KangarooTed
03-06-18, 09:21
Nenas Bogota in the hotel at calle 65 #14-37.

You go upstairs and at the reception you pay 10 k to be allowed in to see the girls (they promise to give back your 10 k if you come out within 5 mins). I was presented 8 fine looking girls and chose a tall thin Venezolana (24), beautiful like a Bollywood filmstar, with augmented breasts, and very friendly attitude. In Venezuela she was an accounting graduate and engineering student. , now she works in Bogota to feed her family. The session is 60 mins for 150 k. Open Mon.-sat 24 h.Thanks. I may check the place out. Sounds good. Was it this hotel Paraiso?

World Travel 69
03-06-18, 16:06
It should be a short time Love Motel.

I hope it is there? It looks like it is on another block, Calle 66a.

I updated the Map.


Thanks. I may check the place out. Sounds good. Was it this hotel Paraiso?

Nounce
03-06-18, 18:04
have no idea what or where Lidl is.I think it is Lido.

Intltvlr
03-06-18, 22:20
Thanks for the report.

I've checked a few maps etc and have no idea what or where Lidl is. Unless you were in a budget supermarket?It might be Lidel.

I've spoken to many working girls that never heard of it either.

Budget? No my friend. That place is a budget killer. Cheapest drink which is a corona costs 40,000 pesos. Super high end place.

Intltvlr
03-06-18, 22:58
So I'm stuck here longer then I expected due to flying standby and flights are full. Also the storm hitting NJ will not help me get out. So I'm making the most of it.

Been spending most of mi time in Santa Fe (all my time) from Friday to last night, Monday I had 12 sessions. 1 was horrible, the only TLN that I did. 1 quickly was bad. The rest were all very good with 4 amazing ones. I will detail them on my full daily reports when I get back to the states. I've been trying to taking notes as I go so I don't forget.

So far been spending my time between paisa. Toya. Duresex (I think that's how you spell it) Venus and piscina.

Now. Almost all girls at every club will give you a nude lap dance at the table for 30,000, piscina is 120,000. Piscina is the only overpriced joint in the neighborhood. I don't understand why. However in my detailed reports I will contradict myself because my best night was there. But that will come later.

Venus. By far the nastiest place in the neighborhood it's dirty all around. It's only at Venus and piscina that you can smoke inside. So I like going there if not for anything else. I will not do sessions there again. It is home to the only bad quickly that I experienced. However they are the only ones that on the weekends they do sex shows with the customers that have the balls to go onstage and have sex in front of everyone. It's the Wild West over there. Kind of cool.

Troya. Lots of girls in and out all the time. It's a cool place. If you just sit around you will for sure see something you like. Prices are good there for alcohol. Medium bottle of red label for 80,000 is a bargain. Quickies are 60,000 like everywhere else.

Paisa. Normally they have the best girls. Their service sucks. If you're sitting by the stage and you guys are drinking beer and someone will buy a bottle. They will tell you that you need to move in a rude way. Not cool. However the quality of the girls is high.

Duresex. WOW! Probably the most under rated joint. Per square foot it's the best place in SF I don't think you can find an ugly girl in there I know we rate women from 1-10. But my friends I sessioned there last night with a fucking 12. Jennifer Lopez on her best day looks like a dog compared to this girl from Medellin. More details on my daily reports to follow. But it was a dance for 30,000 followed by a session for 60,000. Best money I ever spent. I almost took her back up 30 min later. LOL.

Eiffel. Empty all the time.

Texas. Shit hole.

Ibiza empty all the time.

There's a couple of spots I haven't gone in across from Texas but that's because I never saw any talent walking in or out. I made friends with a drug dealer who pretends to sell cigarettes there. He introduces me to everyone as his boss. LOL. So I know all the sleazy people and doormen already. When bums try to ask me for money I don't even have to say no anymore because they handle it for me. I buy them some beers I'm always outside smoking and I'm just a likable person. So they make sure I'm not bothered because they like having me around.

Some places escape my memory but I'll update again soon. More notes to take.

However the corner bar by Ibiza on both sides of the street has some girls hanging around that I would question their age. So be careful. There really is a great amount of police in the area. Which is good. I'm heading there now. It's 5 pm. See you guys soon.

Intltvlr
03-06-18, 23:03
Thanks for your report. I Have no idea however where you entered, but it's not the Mansion. The Mansion is a swing club in Chapinero that cannot be described as tiny.Thank you for correcting the situation. I've heard so much about mansion and was pissed. LOL. So I'm glad there's a different mansion. This one was in the neighborhood of Las Vegas and Pereira by Avenida 1 de mayo.

Intltvlr
03-06-18, 23:11
How stupid would I be heading down to Sante Fe on my own?

Understanding it is not a truly safe place, is it so much of a war zone that an individual who is aware of his surroundings, doesn't get hammered in the clubs, etc, still should not take a taxi to a club? Or just not club hop?

Just curious to see the show.Brother any taxi will take you there. There's only like 3 blocks to play in you can club hop all you want. Don't be stupid or flashy. Some clubs you walk into in one block and they have an exit to the other block so you can even cut through them if you don't want to walk around the blocks. Most of the guys on the street work for the clubs trying to get you in the door. Nobody will do anything to you by the clubs unless you deserve it. That's my perspective anyway. They don't want bad publicity with that sort of thing. Although the other night I almost punched one of those guys that works for the clubs for grabbing my on my arm and trying to escort me into the club. But I'm a bit nuts. LOL. Needless to say they don't touch me anymore.

Routard
03-07-18, 00:22
Akira Spa, Cra 24 #52-68 (near mall Galerias), white door, ring bell 301,9 am-9 pm, sun -6 pm.

Massage+FS 60 mins 150 k, tel+whatsapp 3223712050Thank's for the info, I indeed didn't know this one.

Drf1987
03-07-18, 05:54
I'm with you. I was there January 2017 and I walked around Santa Fe with no problems. I guess the craziest thing to happen was when a guy asked me for a sip of my Pepsi. I told him find a cup and I'd give you a swig. He did and I poured him a little. As far as the girls I went with street meat and it was sweet. Can't be beat on prices. The one regret I had was a girl I saw that was a stunner that I didn't bag. I still think about her from time to time because she was gorgeous and stacked. Oh well the three I did bang weren't exactly chopped liver and once again for the price it can't be beat. Have fun Intitvir I'll be in Cartagena in June and who knows maybe back in Bogota in October.


First. Thank you perrochino. My pleasure. But you need to wait on my very detailed report of day 2. Which just happened to be the greatest day of my LIFE and you're right. Sure has to do with Santa Fe.

Ok. So here we go.

Yesterday I was taken to zona Rosa. Regular rea to meet regular girls. Very nice spots to eat. I don't have time to make girlfriends. Neither do I want to. I'm here for P4P and if something else happens so be it. But I'm not wining and dinning anyone. But since you do need to eat. I recommend this area very much.

After that we w my to the neighborhood where mansion is at. I believe Avenida 1 de maio. (Not sure). Anyway.

Pereira was my first stop. Saturday night by the way. There's about 35 girls all around the 6 range. You might find a lost hot one. But don't count on it. Atmosphere was ok. Couple of locals dancing with the girls. Definitely a place you can waste a girl's time and she won't care. Not my scene. I left.

Mansion 2nd stop. I had good expectations. It's fucking tiny. They should rename it closet. I walked out as fast as I walked in..

Jicks
03-07-18, 14:56
Most taxi drivers will warn how dangerous SF is. Many street girls warned about mugging. I think street girls know better than any one else here. I was warned for roam streets multiple times by police. This mean go, finish the deed and get out.


Brother any taxi will take you there. There's only like 3 blocks to play in you can club hop all you want. Don't be stupid or flashy. Some clubs you walk into in one block and they have an exit to the other block so you can even cut through them if you don't want to walk around the blocks. Most of the guys on the street work for the clubs trying to get you in the door. Nobody will do anything to you by the clubs unless you deserve it. That's my perspective anyway. They don't want bad publicity with that sort of thing. Although the other night I almost punched one of those guys that works for the clubs for grabbing my on my arm and trying to escort me into the club. But I'm a bit nuts. LOL. Needless to say they don't touch me anymore.

World Travel 69
03-07-18, 16:04
What is the address for this place?

Duresex Night Club
Calle ___, Carrera ___. __ Chicas. Prices: 60k Tel: ___. Hours: ____.


So I'm stuck here longer then I expected due to flying standby and flights are full. Also the storm hitting NJ will not help me get out. So I'm making the most of it.

Been spending most of mi time in Santa Fe (all my time) from Friday to last night, Monday I had 12 sessions. 1 was horrible, the only TLN that I did. 1 quickly was bad. The rest were all very good with 4 amazing ones. I will detail them on my full daily reports when I get back to the states. I've been trying to taking notes as I go so I don't forget.

So far been spending my time between paisa. Toya. Duresex (I think that's how you spell it) Venus and piscina.

Now. Almost all girls at every club will give you a nude lap dance at the table for 30,000, piscina is 120,000. Piscina is the only overpriced joint in the neighborhood. I don't understand why. However in my detailed reports I will contradict myself because my best night was there. But that will come later.

Venus. By far the nastiest place in the neighborhood it's dirty all around. It's only at Venus and piscina that you can smoke inside. So I like going there if not for anything else. I will not do sessions there again. It is home to the only bad quickly that I experienced. However they are the only ones that on the weekends they do sex shows with the customers that have the balls to go onstage and have sex in front of everyone. It's the Wild West over there. Kind of cool.

Troya. Lots of girls in and out all the time. It's a cool place. If you just sit around you will for sure see something you like. Prices are good there for alcohol. Medium bottle of red label for 80,000 is a bargain. Quickies are 60,000 like everywhere else.

Paisa. Normally they have the best girls. Their service sucks. If you're sitting by the stage and you guys are drinking beer and someone will buy a bottle. They will tell you that you need to move in a rude way. Not cool. However the quality of the girls is high.

Duresex. WOW! Probably the most under rated joint. Per square foot it's the best place in SF I don't think you can find an ugly girl in there I know we rate women from 1-10. But my friends I sessioned there last night with a fucking 12. Jennifer Lopez on her best day looks like a dog compared to this girl from Medellin. More details on my daily reports to follow. But it was a dance for 30,000 followed by a session for 60,000. Best money I ever spent. I almost took her back up 30 min later. LOL.

Eiffel. Empty all the time.

Texas. Shit hole.

Ibiza empty all the time.

There's a couple of spots I haven't gone in across from Texas but that's because I never saw any talent walking in or out. I made friends with a drug dealer who pretends to sell cigarettes there. He introduces me to everyone as his boss. LOL. So I know all the sleazy people and doormen already. When bums try to ask me for money I don't even have to say no anymore because they handle it for me. I buy them some beers I'm always outside smoking and I'm just a likable person. So they make sure I'm not bothered because they like having me around.

Some places escape my memory but I'll update again soon. More notes to take.

However the corner bar by Ibiza on both sides of the street has some girls hanging around that I would question their age. So be careful. There really is a great amount of police in the area. Which is good. I'm heading there now. It's 5 pm. See you guys soon.

Woodman09
03-08-18, 07:14
Out barhopping with Henry2005 Wednesday Night- OMG! Just off the Hook. Wednesday is the best day for SantaFe-- Tons of hotties in the streets and more in the clubs. What makes Wednesday so great is that there are half the guys and most of the chicas are out and they are so fun when there are less guys-.

This guy Henry is a bit crazy in a funny way. He definitely appreciated SF. LOL. I had to tell him to lower his voice after he got a little buzzed. We hit most of the bars hot girls every where, all smiley.

At one point we were in Troyas and the ratio was 1-1 about 30+ chicas 6-9's+ Good pussy for cheep! I was watching these 4 guys partying with 4 girls getting simultaneous lap dances, it was beautiful!

Super cute 18 yo Venezuelan spinners on 23rd between 15th and 16th- $40-50 mil.

Quick Santa Fe tip- if catching a cab out go to 24th St that way the cab is headed out of SF.

Arcangel
03-08-18, 21:53
It should be a short time Love Motel.

I hope it is there? It looks like it is on another block, Calle 66a.

I updated the Map.I checked on Google Streetview: The hotel where Nenas is on the 2nd floor is called Hotel Paraiso on calle 65. I don't know what's on 66 a.

Mr Enternational
03-08-18, 22:52
Out barhopping with Henry2005 Wednesday Night- OMG! Just off the Hook. Wednesday is the best day for SantaFe-- Tons of hotties in the streets and more in the clubs. What makes Wednesday so great is that there are half the guys and most of the chicas are out and they are so fun when there are less guys-.

This guy Henry is a bit crazy in a funny way. He definitely appreciated SF. LOL. I had to tell him to lower his voice after he got a little buzzed. We hit most of the bars hot girls every where, all smiley.LOL. After all these years it is great to see people catching on to Santa Fe and enjoying themselves. Since my first time in Colombia in 2005, Santa Fe is the only place that I have ever mongered in Bogota. For me there has never been any reason to go elsewhere. Plus I stay in a fairly nice $24 hotel only a 10 minute walk from the place.

Henry2005
03-09-18, 05:53
Arrived in town on Tuesday, is now Thursday night. I can vouch for all of Routard's excellent Bogota guide. Staying at Viaggio Virrey hotel he recommended in Zona T (higher end district, safe, nice, lotsa upscale shopping and clubs) Had a blast with Woodman, who tour guided me most excellently for a very reasonable donation. He is low stress, trustworthy, knowledgeable, and fun. Worked hard to make sure I saw it all and enjoyed myself, and made it home okay.

Bogota does require a baseline of knowledge and Spanish functionality to really pull off, which is why I'd recommend someone like Wood to help you get your bearings. Can be overwhelming otherwise.

Bogota / Colombia has blown my mind as to what is possible for this hobby, and how little can be spent for truly mind blowing beauty and experiences.

HectorPF
03-10-18, 18:36
Out barhopping with Henry2005 Wednesday Night- OMG! Just off the Hook. Wednesday is the best day for SantaFe-- Tons of hotties in the streets and more in the clubs. What makes Wednesday so great is that there are half the guys and most of the chicas are out and they are so fun when there are less guys-.

This guy Henry is a bit crazy in a funny way. He definitely appreciated SF. LOL. I had to tell him to lower his voice after he got a little buzzed. We hit most of the bars hot girls every where, all smiley.

At one point we were in Troyas and the ratio was 1-1 about 30+ chicas 6-9's+ Good pussy for cheep! I was watching these 4 guys partying with 4 girls getting simultaneous lap dances, it was beautiful!

Super cute 18 yo Venezuelan spinners on 23rd between 15th and 16th- $40-50 mil.

Quick Santa Fe tip- if catching a cab out go to 24th St that way the cab is headed out of SF.Spot on with the Wednesday info. It can get a little crowded on weekend nights and a little dead on Sunday / Mondays. Wednesday is when the girls really come out to start making that moolah. I prefer walking around before the sun goes down though so you can really see the girls in the daylight. Versus in the clubs that are dark or at night.

Intltvlr
03-10-18, 19:06
So day 2 was a long and amazing day.

It's Friday, my wingman is hung over from the previous night.

I get my driver who I hired for all day for 150,000 to come with me to Santa Fe. Wow!! I felt like I was in Disney for adults. I had 1 viagra of 100 MG. Just for back up for the whole trip.

Stop by a bar for a drink and right next to the bar there's chicas on the street. I wasted no time.

Carla 38 yo 40,000 for quickie. Amazing body all tits and ass. Go upstairs, she was very friendly but does not kiss. Nice deep throat. I tried to finger her as she was sucking my dick and couldn't get my finger in her. I was like. WTF. I tell her to get on top of me and she applies a generous amount of lubricant which gets the job done to finally penetrate her. She is very friendly so I say to her. Your boobs are fake, how about your ass?? She says nothing else is fake but her boobs. She works out every day that's why she's so tight inside and out. Bend her over so she could twerk that amazing ass on my dick. And finished like that. Wonderful girl. Doesn't not look or act her age.

Back to drinking and walking around. Doesn't take long to find my next target. Don't remember many details except she was Colombian 24 yo 40,000 and a nice time. Back to drinking as I hit piscina which was empty at 5 when it opens but I meet a girl which I will end up referring to her as "my chica". Ended up chatting her up for a while but nothing happened I promised to come back later.

Ended up buying a version of cialis which made my face hot as hell. It only lasts 24 hours.

Went to eat something and more bar hopping around 9 my wingman is finally ready to come out so I sent the driver to get him while I waited at Venus. While I waited I took a girl upstairs for 60,000 horrible experience. Place is disgusting upstairs as it is downstairs as well. Th why arrive we go bar hop a bit and up at piscina. Where the night got crazy! Continued.

Intltvlr
03-10-18, 19:56
Don't be lazy read part 1 first. LOL.

So after some bar hopping we end up at piscina where the prices are elevated. My wing man loves it. I'm looking for my chica to see what ends up happening. The waiter approached us and we decided to get a bottle of Rum with some coke bottles. Which came with a free nude dance of the chica of our choice. My friend sees these 2 beautiful young girls by themselves and we ask the waiter to bring them to him. (I'm waiting on my chica) so they sit with him and a dancer starts her show (it's my chica wow) my friend can't determine which girl he wants the dance from. So I chose. Girl1 goes to change and proceeds with an amazing dance with her amazing 19 yo body. (Girl1) girl 2 stays and enjoys the show. My chica finished dancing and saw me. Came over and spent a the rest of the night sitting on my lap and dancing for me. I find out it costs 400 USD to pay barfine and take her home until her next shift the next day at 5 pm (Hell noo) chica 1 and 2 are still with us because my buddy keeps showering them with money. They keep dancing around us along with my chica. And I'm HORNY AS FUCK. So I tell my chica that I needed some air. The night was coming to a close and I wanted one more pop. So I go outside for a cigarette and find a slim Venezuelans for 35,000. Busted a nut quick and went back into piscina where my chica was already heading outside to look for me. As I walk in there's another bottle of Rum in the table and chica 2 is dancing naked. WTF my wing man has no limits. He's in love with both girls. As we come to the almost end of the night I give my chica 100,000 for being my play thing for all those hours. We kept making out like we were dating. My friend invites both girls back to the hotel to drink some Rum. They say they have never done that but my chica says he seems nice and they should go. My chica lives at piscina and she couldn't come because I won't pay barfine. So we proceed to the hotel. My friend was so drunk and kept asking who are these 2 girls. They are not the same girls. LOL. I said it's the same girls just they have on normal clothes. LOL. So I finally start talking to the girls since my chica was no longer around. And I find out they have been doing this for 3 days. They were webcam girls doing shows together because they are best friends. We get to the hotel after an embarrassing moment at the front desk of the Marriott while the girls showed their IDs and my friend was making a fool of himself. We go to my room for a drink. I put some music so the girls stay in the mood and I take all my friends money except 200 USD I told him that's all he can spend with the girls. He says they deserve more and I told him to grow up and shut the fuck up. After a while. I just wanted to go to sleep and I tell my drunk friend to take both girls to his room. Or take one or the other. I don't care. I just want the night to end already. He decides to take girl 2 to his room. I take 100 Usd out of his pocket since he wanted me to entertain girl 1 and I didn't want him giving that girl 200 USD. So I proceed to play with girl 1 and have no intention on paying her but she asked so I did.

Now this is when it gets crazy. I'm already spent and didn't want to jump right into sex so I tell her I'm going to be nice to her and proceed to go down on her. She cover her pussy and says nobody has ever done that before. I move her hand and proceed, eventually I try to put a finger in her and realize how damn tight she is. So I ask why and she says it's been a while since she's had sex. She's only been doing this 3 days and hadn't had any customers yet. (These girls get tested 1 time per month by the way. So both had just been tested.) I tell her to suck my dick after a while and she does a very good job. Then I tell her to get on top of me and she asks if I have condoms. I say no do you? She says the condoms are provided by the house to fuck in the house not for outside. So I say then it's without condom. As she mounted me she has a hard time fitting me inside of her. Her pussy was amazing. Fucked her in a couple of different positions and asked her where am I cumming? Are you on the pill? And she said no. And I wanted to go down on her again so I came in her mouth. Amazing girl.

While we talk about anal while I recover the phone rings. It's her friend in he lobby. My friend passed out they did nothing and he didn't pay her anything. So I said tell her to come up to my room. She arrives and I'm butt naked when I open the door and immediately tell her she's over dressed and to get naked. She does happily. Her friend tells her to let me be nice to her. LOL. She asks what does she mean. So I proceeded to go down on her. This girl is much more sexual and has orgasms like crazy. Then I tell her to suck my dick while I lay down and sit her friend on my face. Then she begins to ride me. Then they switch back and forth between fucking and sucking. I bend over girl number 2 and girl number 1 says I'm done I say no you're not. I need to cum in your mouth again. She says cum in her mouth this time. I said no, she said cum on my face then. I said ok. I came on her face and girl number 2 is still rubbing her pussy. And I said you want more and she says yes please because it's so amazing. So I put her into 69 position where she came again. My dick waved the white Flag and I was done. I couldn't go any more. LOL. And that was the most amazing threesome I ever had. And all thanks to my friend wanting both, paying for both and me getting both. LOL. What an amazing day!

Gary Groundwork
03-11-18, 03:27
Most taxi drivers will warn how dangerous SF is. Many street girls warned about mugging. I think street girls know better than any one else here. I was warned for roam streets multiple times by police. This mean go, finish the deed and get out.My friend got stabbed in Santa Fe. Lucky to be alive. Another guy know got scopamined there.

Its dodgy as fuck.

Woodman09
03-11-18, 22:41
Spot on with the Wednesday info. It can get a little crowded on weekend nights and a little dead on Sunday / Mondays. Wednesday is when the girls really come out to start making that moolah. I prefer walking around before the sun goes down though so you can really see the girls in the daylight. Versus in the clubs that are dark or at night.LOL!! Yes Love the Day time to check out the StreetieSweeties!! Thursdays are Great too-- ALso Attunes is a bit brighter so you really can see the girls.


LOL. After all these years it is great to see people catching on to Santa Fe and enjoying themselves. Since my first time in Colombia in 2005, Santa Fe is the only place that I have ever mongered in Bogota. For me there has never been any reason to go elsewhere. Plus I stay in a fairly nice $24 hotel only a 10 minute walk from the place.Yes, Santa Fe is the Best place overall for hookers in the Americas. And I've been to Brazil, Ecuador, Cuba and Tijuana. LOtsa Great AirBnBs near SF too! BTW you don't need AC in Bogota.


My friend got stabbed in Santa Fe. Lucky to be alive. Another guy know got scopamined there.

Its dodgy as fuck.I think if you don't act foolish and take normal precautions you will be fine, I see all types of men old and young walking through 98% Colombians. I've been to SF hundreds of time over the last 7 yrs-- I have never had any attempts, I do blend in pretty good though. The best is if you can be get a group together.


So day 2 was a long and amazing day.
...

I get my driver who I hired for all day for 150,000 to come with me to Santa Fe. Wow!! I felt like I was in Disney for adults. I had 1 viagra of 100 MG. Just for back up for the whole trip.LOL. 'Disney for Adults. ' Actually Disney for guys! Lotsa great rides.

Drf1987
03-12-18, 00:57
Intitvir that is one of the greatest stories I've ever read. Congrats!


Don't be lazy read part 1 first. LOL.

So after some bar hopping we end up at piscina where the prices are elevated. My wing man loves it. I'm looking for my chica to see what ends up happening. The waiter approached us and we decided to get a bottle of Rum with some coke bottles. Which came with a free nude dance of the chica of our choice. My friend sees these 2 beautiful young girls by themselves and we ask the waiter to bring them to him. (I'm waiting on my chica) so they sit with him and a dancer starts her show (it's my chica wow) my friend can't determine which girl he wants the dance from. So I chose. Girl1 goes to change and proceeds with an amazing dance with her amazing 19 yo body. (Girl1) girl 2 stays and enjoys the show. My chica finished dancing and saw me. Came over and spent a the rest of the night sitting on my lap and dancing for me. I find out it costs 400 USD to pay barfine and take her home until her next shift the next day at 5 pm (Hell noo) chica 1 and 2 are still with us because my buddy keeps showering them with money. They keep dancing around us along with my chica. And I'm HORNY AS FUCK. So I tell my chica that I needed some air. The night was coming to a close and I wanted one more pop. So I go outside for a cigarette and find a slim Venezuelans for 35,000. Busted a nut quick and went back into piscina where my chica was already heading outside to look for me. As I walk in there's another bottle of Rum in the table and chica 2 is dancing naked. WTF my wing man has no limits. He's in love with both girls. As we come to the almost end of the night I give my chica 100,000 for being my play thing for all those hours. We kept making out like we were dating. My friend invites both girls back to the hotel to drink some Rum. They say they have never done that but my chica says he seems nice and they should go. My chica lives at piscina and she couldn't come because I won't pay barfine. So we proceed to the hotel. My friend was so drunk and kept asking who are these 2 girls. They are not the same girls. LOL. I said it's the same girls just they have on normal clothes. LOL. So I finally start talking to the girls since my chica was no longer around. And I find out they have been doing this for 3 days.

Routard
03-12-18, 04:08
What is the address for this place?

Duresex Night Club
Calle ___, Carrera ___. __ Chicas. Prices: 60k Tel: ___. Hours: ____.Never ever heard about a place named like this. And SF is just an area of 2 blocks that you can walk in 10 min, it's easy to identify each place.

BullColombia
03-12-18, 04:54
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KangarooTed
03-12-18, 09:57
Never ever heard about a place named like this. And SF is just an area of 2 blocks that you can walk in 10 min, it's easy to identify each place.Well it's on the map near Calle 23 and 16, but how it's positioned on there. Maybe it is just a placeholder not actually identifying the exact location?

Not sure if anyone can confirm this is the name of the place. Maybe the OP was confused again?

KangarooTed
03-13-18, 12:08
Hey everybody,

I thought I'd bump the question as I have the same question, though broader. I am considering ending my Medellin-Bogota trip with overlap in Bogota during March 29-April 1. Will there be many / any casas or massage places open during this time? I've heard Medellin will be a bust. So, I thought I'd check on Bogota since its a bigger city. Another option I'm considering is Aruba during that time. Thanks!I read Gonefishin's report from last year 'Semana Santa'.

Apart from the Thursday & Friday he noted Pussy House and Zhivo was packed with women. The way those dates align with March 29th-1st April, it seems like the last day of real action this year will be the 28th, the Wednesday.

For others that are there prior to those dates, the opportunity exists to get numbers for any girls staying around town.

Personally, I'm hoping the streets are paved with Venezuelan pussy during Semana, 'because they got nowhere else to go.

Tacoma101
03-18-18, 02:17
Trip report. March 9th-March 16th.

Overview: First time in Bog, decent Spanish, decent looking guy, early 40's, 10 year monger, rented a place in Chapinero Alto. Central to everything.

Spent the first few days with a chica friend. Got the lay of the land and was ready to launch once she departed.

Spa's.

Abudabi spa. Hit it up mid week.

180,000 for "completo".

Line up of about 8 chicas. Almost all wearing corsets. Not sure if that was a spa outfit or to cover up the baby fat. Chose Paola, very innocent looking. Sexy eye contact the entire time. Body rub, not massage. Naked the entire time. Amazing tits and decent body. She said she had only been there 3 months and by the way she serviced me, I believed it. Amateur sex hour LOL. Still got my pop when I got on top, had her head off the edge of the bed and watched her tits bouncing in the mirror.

Overall, room was clean, so was the bathroom. Massage table / bed was moderately comfortable. They offered supplies to shower after.

Mezzanine massage area.

About 5-6 businesses on the back side / second floor. They have cameras so they can see when a guy walks up the stairs and the girls are in the tiny rooms and pop their heads out. Checked out all the places and settled on the last one with Candy. The first room quoted me 350 k. Guess I looked like a silly gringo. 19 and super sexy. We had to wait for a room to open so we talked a lot. She kept sucking on a lollipop the entire time. Helluva tease. 120 K for completo.

The room was super small and noisy. You could easily hear the chica in the next room getting pounded. That was kinda cool. Haha.

Great sex with Candy. 3 positions. Great DFK and GFE! She was open to overnight but I'll save that for the next trip. She told me she takes the milenio bus 2 hours each day when she comes to the spa. Craziness!

Santa Fe notes.

California club 4 pm Wed. Quiet. Average looking girls. 15 mil for a corona. Nothing too exciting.

Troya, much better vibe and selection. Chicks don't approach at all (wasnt expecting that). 8. 5 K for the cheap Anguila beer.

Punto de oro-Dead.

Sketchy people in Londres bar. Great corner bar to watch the street scene. I was hoping they had wifi but it wasnt working. I did notice one creepy guy come up to the bartender and hand over a cell phone. Bartender looked it over, front and back and put it away. Almost as if the guy turning it in had just stolen it somewhere. Was odd to watch that. Just be careful with your stuff.

Carrera 16 a scene. Way too many bar workers. Like horse flies! I ignored all of them.

Headed to Piscina Club and had the manager give me a full tour. 450 K / hour for the top of the line room (room had a sauna, a sex bench, and a jacuzzi). Light on girls but the ones there were good looking and fun. No dudes at 5 pm. I guess I showed up right when they opened. I wanted to go back here but I never did.

Back at Santa Fe on Friday around 2 pm. Dead. Nothing really gets going until 4 or 5 pm.

Definitely some questionable young girls out on the street!

Oh and the street sweeties are awesome. Not much smile on any of their faces but if you see one you like, jump on it, don't wait. If you circle the block, theirs a good chance she will be gone.

Started at Troya, quiet. Minimal talent at this time.

Stumbled into Atunes-Cool and chill spot! 3 separate parts. Most kinda hang out in the middle. Kinda liked it. A lot of standing around. Almost feels like a cafeteria. Good looking girls. Nobody dancing. Only one dude asking people to order drinks from him but you can and I did easily go to the bar. 6 K for a Heineken. Not bad.

From a Venezuelan stunner I chatted with. "What do you think of the Colombian men? Her response "They are all ugly". Haha.

Texas club. Crap hole / rough looking girls. But it had WiFi. Just had to stay near the DJ booth for it to work.

Def recommend Atunes and Piscina for midweek / mid day fun.

Chapinero Area.

Hit up Pussy house after a Tinder girl workout session. Got there at 1 am. Way better than Santa Fe. Relaxed staff (minimal horse flies LOL). Chicas were all about giving me their numbers for an all nighter in front of the staff. Chicks are a little flighty after 1 am though.

Hit up Pussy house a second time on Friday night. Packed house. Much pushier staff. Hung out with a chica on the second floor. Definitely the place to be.

Tinder.

Met two from there but had plenty of other offers. Some ridiculously priced. Some of the younger girls on the app flirted about coming over to "hang out" but making that happen was like herding cats. Ha!

Chica 1 I met. We agreed on 140 K for 2 hours. But I was up for dinner first (why not, everything is so damn cheap). We ended up drinking a ton. And more back at the apartment. She was a blast (3 pops, two of them BB) and must have hung out for about 4 hours. Great time. Ended up seeing her later on in the week for 2 more hours.

Chica 2. Didn't really look like her pictures but still doable. We met for dinner. No talk about money or sex but I knew her deal. She said she wanted to massage me. Of course I offered to pay for that and she was ok with it. She was back at my place naked and getting pounded out pretty fast. Great ass on her. Gave her 140 K for the one pop.

Highlight of the trip was a normal chica from Tinder that I actually chatted with last year in Ecuador. She just happened to be in Bog. We had two nice dates. Super stunning. Amazing experience with her and gratis.

Mr Enternational
03-18-18, 02:57
Headed to Piscina Club and had the manager give me a full tour. 450 K / hour for the top of the line room (room had a sauna, a sex bench, and a jacuzzi).That is a lot of damn pesos. Last time I was there with my brother and my dad, I negotiated a price of like 150K with the girls. We had regular rooms though. Troya and the street chicks are my go to, but I wanted to check out La Piscina since there was a favorable exchange rate. No way I was going there when it was 1600 to 1USD. Back then a session equalled out to $100. I have never seen any dudes in there. It is always totally empty, besides the girls and loud music.

KangarooTed
03-18-18, 05:35
That is a lot of damn pesos..Agreed, especially for a Sauna. What a waste of time.

'The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing' - er, rather than thinking a sauna is a good idea at 450 K an hour.

PuntingGeorge
03-19-18, 02:41
Hi All,

First trip to Bogota booked for first week of April. I have basic tourist Spanish and will have to rely on google translate for the rest. I've done the DR a few times, a little bit in Mexico and Lima and various countries in Europe. I'll be there for 5 days. I've gone back 50 pages in the forum and have a fair idea of what's going on there, but I do have a few questions.

Massive thanks to all those who have contributed guides, maps and trip reports etc. Routard's FAQ's must be one of the best posts I've ever seen on here. World Travel 69's chica list and maps are just wow! And there are some quality trip reports, so thank you all.


The girls usually are standing in front of the short time hotels in Santa Fe. You just take a walk in the area, and talk to the girl you like. They will take you inside the hotel. Other girls around the area not in front of the hotel, the process is the same. The bars usually have rooms on site, so you just get the service inside, mostly upstairs.When having a session with a girl at a strip club or off the street, do you play separately for the girl and the room or is the room included in the quoted prices?

Routard mentioned that Bogota is the home of GFE. In many places the session is over when you pop. Is that the case in Bogota or if a girl quotes an hour she'll stay for an hour regardless?

I'm going to buy a cheap cell phone especially for this trip, both to keep my mongering life separate and in case it gets stolen. Is there reasonable 4 G coverage there or should I just get a cheaper 3 G phone?

For this, my first trip, I like the sound of Chapinero. I'm happy to sleep at night and play during the day, so having cheap daytime brothels on my doorstep sounds tempting. Also, I'm a middle of the road sort of guy. Don't want to stay north and pay silly money but don't want to stay too far south and be nervous every time I leave the hotel. I will definitely check out Santa Fe during the day though, sounds like a must. I know the odds of being mugged are slim, but no point taking unnecessary risks, especially as I'll be flying solo.

I've messaged a few prepagos and they all listed CBJ. When I asked about BBBJ they quoted an additional 50. Am I better just not bringing it up and assuming most of them will anyway do it if I'm clean etc. Or will the upsell in the room be higher than what they quote over text?

People make reference to bars, strip clubs and night clubs. I assume the following.

Bars = A bar area with girls milling around and rooms upstairs if you want a session with any of them.

Strip Club = As above but with the option of paying the girls for a striptease.

Nightclub = Traditional night club with rooms on site for sessions.

Am I correct? In all cases, I assume you could tip a girl to sit and canoodle with you? I. e. I have more options than sit alone or pay for a session. The purpose of my trip is exclusively mongering, so I'd like to hang around the clubs as much as possible but obviously have my limits on how many times I can session per day.

I'm planning to be teetotal this trip. Will I have a problem spending time at clubs if I'm ordering water only, no alcohol, but am paying for dances, tipping girls who sit with me and going for the occasional session?


"barra why tanga" (strip club without sex) or a whiskeria (brothel).Are there barra why tangas around Chapinero? I want to spend time in a strip club but can't see myself making it as far south as Primer de Mayo. (I've been mocked before for wanting to pay for a striptease when I can pay the same money to fuck but I like the tease, especially where there is no pressure to take the girl for a session, so she has no agenda other than another dance).

I love playing in jacuzzis. I've seen them listed in a couple of love motels. Routard pointed out that love motels don't check ID's so I shouldn't be taking a girl off the street or the web to a love motel. Sounds like my only option is taking a girl whose number I have gotten when meeting her in a club. Any other options?

In the DR, hotel reception will hold the girl's ID until I come down with her, so they know she hasn't left me up there drugged or dead. Is it the same in Bogota or do they simply check ID's? Is an ID commonly called a cedula here too or is that a Dominican term?

Okay, I've asked a lot of questions, I like to know what I'm doing before I go. Feel free to answer any, not necessarily all. Thank you very much in advance for any useful information. If you look at my profile, you'll see I've written extensive trip reports, so I'm not a mooch, I will give back.

If anyone is around during first week of April, would love to meet up, drinks on me, or even go mongering together. Feel free to PM me with details of any girls you'd like me to keep happy till you're back in town.

P. S. What is a paisa girl? I know pais means country. Does it mean country girl? If so, what is the significance of a Colombian country girl?

Mr Enternational
03-19-18, 04:48
When having a session with a girl at a strip club or off the street, do you play separately for the girl and the room or is the room included in the quoted prices?I don't really know. I always ask, "y la habitacaion?" when I talk to chicks about prices. I think sometimes it is included and sometimes it isn't. Because the girl could give you the price with or without the room so you will not know unless you ask. I always negotiate anyway. The girl is still on the hook to pay the room part. That can not be negotiated. I usually pay 30K at the Santa Fe casas which I think is 10K for the room and 20K for the girl. At Troya strip club I pay 60K which 10K of that goes toward the room.


Bars = A bar area with girls milling around and rooms upstairs if you want a session with any of them.

Strip Club = As above but with the option of paying the girls for a striptease.

Nightclub = Traditional night club with rooms on site for sessions.Spot on for bar. Not a ton of chicks. Just 2 or maybe 3. You don't pay for stripping in Latin America; you pay for fucking. Nightclub = ripoff. Chicks wearing lingerie or skimpy dresses in a fancy bar about to charge you for 1 drink what it would cost to fuck in another place.



P. S. What is a paisa girl? I know pais means country. Does it mean country girl? If so, what is the significance of a Colombian country girl?You will generally hear paisa referring to a chick from Medellin. Medellin is located in the department (state, province) of Antioquia. According to wiki: A Paisa is someone from a region in the northwest of Colombia, including the part of the Andes in Colombia. The Paisa region is formed by the departments of Antioquia, Caldas, Risaralda and Quindo. Some regions of Valle del Cauca Department (north) and Tolima Department (west) culturally identify as paisas.

Costena is a chick from the coast.

Calena is a chick from Cali.

PuntingGeorge
03-19-18, 15:49
Great information.


Nightclub = ripoff.LOL.

WindAngel
03-19-18, 17:30
When having a session with a girl at a strip club or off the street, do you play separately for the girl and the room or is the room included in the quoted prices?My experience is that the price is included about 80% of the time. It is only for about 20 or 30 minutes. You will get a knock on the door before you reach the allowed time.

You can go to Santa Fe at night. If you are worry about safety, just have the taxi to drop you off at the block where Troya and all other clubs are, and don't wonder out too far from it. When you leave, take the taxi to go back to your hotel.

I think you will need to pay for dance but it is very cheap.

Sangnyc21
03-19-18, 17:49
I have just visited Medellin and had a great time. I am just curious to know if there are a lot of Asian tourists and if so which areas do they commonly hang out.

Samson Monger
03-19-18, 22:22
I have just visited Medellin and had a great time. I am just curious to know if there are a lot of Asian tourists and if so which areas do they commonly hang out.First time visitor on May 10-May 19. I am also an Asian male, Asian-American. Anyone out there want to meet up and help a new guy navigate the area? First night bar tab is on me!

Oil Stain
03-20-18, 03:11
Trip report. March 9th-March 16th.

Overview: First time in Bog, decent Spanish, decent looking guy, early 40's, 10 year monger, rented a place in Chapinero Alto. Central to everything.

Spent the first few days with a chica friend. Got the lay of the land and was ready to launch once she departed.

Spa's.

Abudabi spa. Hit it up mid week.

180,000 for "completo".

Line up of about 8 chicas. Almost all wearing corsets. Not sure if that was a spa outfit or to cover up the baby fat. Chose Paola, very innocent looking. Sexy eye contact the entire time. Body rub, not massage. Naked the entire time. Amazing tits and decent body. She said she had only been there 3 months and by the way she serviced me, I believed it. Amateur sex hour LOL. Still got my pop when I got on top, had her head off the edge of the bed and watched her tits bouncing in the mirror..Nothing in La Pisina is worth 450 k pesos an hour. The take out is 200 k and most if not all are Venezuelans.

TravelerBoss
03-21-18, 19:52
Is any member going to be around the week of March 24- March 31? I will be flying there this Saturday and will like someone to show me around if possible.

Routard
03-21-18, 20:20
I have just visited Medellin and had a great time. I am just curious to know if there are a lot of Asian tourists and if so which areas do they commonly hang out.Hi, there are few Asian expats and very few Asian tourists. You might find Asian expats in some of the Karaoke in Northern Bogota. Juan Pablo Zhivago is a quiet brothel with Karaoke where you might always find some Asian expats.

TravelerBoss
03-21-18, 22:06
First time visitor in Bogota this coming week (March 24-31). Will there be any members available that can show me the Bogota scene? Of course, you will be compensated for your time.

Sangnyc21
03-22-18, 12:14
I am wondering if there are reg clubs similar to Gustos of Medellin. Where it's a lot of working girls and no take out fee and just drinks and negotiation with the girl. Any help would be appreciated.

LatinaLover#1
03-24-18, 03:47
First time visitor in Bogota this coming week (March 24-31). Will there be any members available that can show me the Bogota scene? Of course, you will be compensated for your time.I don't arrive until April 5 but Check with Woodman.

Mr Enternational
03-26-18, 07:42
No matter how hard I try I just can't get away. And I tried. I really tried. I promised myself today that I would try to check out new places like that Playboy Club or Mansion or whatever it is called. But I left my hotel downtown at 11pm and took the 10 minute walk to Santa Fe and that was all she wrote. There was so much pussy around that place it was ridiculous. I asked one chick how much and she said 20. I said and the room? She said 5. So 25 in all. Let's do it then! She had me pay the motel person 7 and she gave her a condom. I said but I already have condoms. Fuck it. It was only 2000. The usual BBBJ and all the positions. About 30 minutes later, busted one, paid the 20 and left.

I went walking around and oh me, oh my. I guess La Piscina is closed on Sundays. There were plenty of people on the streets hanging out. I stepped in to Atunes. Nahhh. Troya is my spot. So left out of there and kept walking. This superstar with regular clothes and a backpack approached me and asked where I was going. I said just looking around. She said how about a session. I said how much. She said 100 for all night. It was like I was in a movie and a bomb exploded blowing me backwards. I told her that she must be a model or a movie star. She started laughing and said no but thanks. I told her that I didn't have my phone on me or I would definitely take her number. She said she was from Medellin. I am telling you. If I was not getting up at 5am to go then I would have given her 100 just to sleep next to me.

There were plenty more where she came from. Chicks that looked straight out of Medellin's Fase 2 were just roaming the street in regular clothes. There was a lot of jailbait out too that I had not noticed before. I decided to call it a night so I went into the restaurant and got me a to go order of bbq wings and headed back to the hotel. I left at 11pm with 200K and got back in at 1am with 158K. Maybe one day I will get to visit some other spots but for now Santa Fe is all I need.

P.S. PuntingGeorge, I don't know if you will be able to handle Santa Fe. It is sure to overwhelm you!

Something that I have never seen in all these years. Business have sat the trash out for pickup, but all over the place the bums have opened the bags and strewn trash all over the sidewalks looking for food. That is a damn shame. I would hate to be a garbage man here.

PuntingGeorge
03-26-18, 09:12
P.S. PuntingGeorge, I don't know if you will be able to handle Santa Fe. It is sure to overwhelm you!Sounds like a perfect evening, thanks for sharing.

I'd like to find my Bogota legs in a laid back setting, so I've booked a place in Chapinero and plan to become well acquainted with the day brothels, but plan to do lots of exploring, with a focus on Santa Fe (sounds like Sosua on speed). Based on how comfortable I feel walking around alone or if I go back with a wingman, I'll decide if I want to stay closer next time. Will keep you updated.

PuntingGeorge
03-26-18, 09:22
My experience is that the price is included about 80% of the time. It is only for about 20 or 30 minutes. You will get a knock on the door before you reach the allowed time.

You can go to Santa Fe at night. If you are worry about safety, just have the taxi to drop you off at the block where Troya and all other clubs are, and don't wonder out too far from it. When you leave, take the taxi to go back to your hotel.

I think you will need to pay for dance but it is very cheap.Sounds like good advice. Appreciate it.

Mr Enternational
03-26-18, 11:46
Santa Fe (sounds like Sosua on speed).It is nothing like Sosua because the girls don't try to rip you off. If anything they will help you. I remember my first time there it was in the daytime and I was wearing some diamond earrings. I passed by a casa and some girls told me to take them off so that nobody would try to rob me. In Sosua the girls would have probably called somebody to rob me. LOL.

TravelerBoss
03-27-18, 02:27
So here's a little report. I been following Routard's guide and it has been spot on. I decided to go with one of his recommendations for accommodations and couldn't be happier. I was even able to get a good secure driver that has experience as a body guard. He goes onto the Zona de tolerancia with me and wait for me at the club to make sure that I'm being treated good and fairly, it's nice to know that someone is watching your back, hit me on PMs if you are interested in his services. Anyways Last night I ended up going to Troya and got me a girl from Medellin. She goes by the name of Zamara. Probably one of the best looking girls in the club IMO. She's very shy and not very exciting in the room but she would comply with everything you tell her and with time she gets to warm up to you, I just feel that 20 min it's not enough. Price was 60 k for 20 min. They will knock on your door around the 10 min mark and before you go into the room. The girl cleaning it would ask for a tip. Usually 5 k. Anyways I ended up coming for a second time that night because it was Sunday (yesterday) and most clubs were closed. This time she called her sister Paloma (big girl in a good way) be she's def a hustler. This time Paloma negotiated the price w my friend to 80 k, she wanted 100 k at first, in front of Zamara. So I also ended up paying 80 k for the second session. And this point I was drunk and didn't really care to negotiate for 20 k, which I probably could have.

LatinaLover#1
03-28-18, 07:10
Sounds like a perfect evening, thanks for sharing.

I'd like to find my Bogota legs in a laid back setting, so I've booked a place in Chapinero and plan to become well acquainted with the day brothels, but plan to do lots of exploring, with a focus on Santa Fe (sounds like Sosua on speed). Based on how comfortable I feel walking around alone or if I go back with a wingman, I'll decide if I want to stay closer next time. Will keep you updated.PG, Have you ever been to Villa Mimosa in Rio? If so, Santa Fe is very similar except cooler weather. LOL.

PuntingGeorge
03-28-18, 08:53
PG, Have you ever been to Villa Mimosa in Rio? If so, Santa Fe is very similar except cooler weather. LOL.Nope, haven't done Brazil. I saw the weather, not excited, especially considering they don't seem to have heating.

Bolongo
03-30-18, 00:58
So I am on the flight to Bogata again. I posted about my last trip and it was so long, it logged me out and I lost it. I usually order in off photoprepagos. 2 chicks at a time, and chicas back to back. I lined up some talent for tonight. I have 50 saved as favorites plus I like to send them away. I usually do have a camera or two anyway. This time, may get out to hit a few clubs. I don't speak Spanish but working on it.

Right now I am looking to leave on Sunday, but may stay until next Sunday. We will see! I'll try to remember to check this if anyone wants to meet up. All recommendations. Of places and Chicas welcomed. I usually stay near Parque 93, this time Carrera 7 and. 67-39.

GreenBud
03-30-18, 03:10
Really late report. Overall, I really, really like Colombia. I prefer Bogota over Medellin and Cartagena.

Minor Annoyances I experienced:

1) I took the public taxi twice from the airport. Both times they tried to scam me for a few mil pesos. Once when I asked how much, he pointed to the meter (Did he expect me to pay 212 mil pesos? Note: the meter is just a number that you use to translate your fare. I'm still not sure how your calculate the fare when you roll over the fare table). Then he pointed to the per hour waiting charge. He tried to use that larger number as the airport surcharge.

2) Tried Uber one time at the airport. Uber sucks in Colombia. Not because of the rip-offs (they really can't rip you off; if they do, you just get a refund). It's because they're incompetent. They get lost due to all the one way streets. Uber drivers in Medellin and Cartegena were better. I guess it's because it's smaller with less one way streets.

3) YMMV with the girls. Of course, this happens everywhere in the world. Some of the girls at the cases were such poor performers. One girl asked for 20 or 30 mil more for her to do more than 5 minutes of CBJ. One reason might be that I chose the cutest girl in the lineup. But some of the girls at Chicas Milenio and the one across the street are surprising cute sometimes.

4) Very hard to get girls to perform BBBJ for the standard fee. Actually for me, it was impossible without offering a tip in the cases. Couple of the girls at the Pussy House strip joint asked for a tip for BBBJ. Couple of the girls from the strip joint across the street from the Pussy House asked for a tip for BBBJ and a lesbian show. I went to Santa Fe once to partake (only once, just to check it out. I prefer the cases). I asked about 5 of the cuter girls on the street for BBBJ. They all said no. In the casas, the girls said no, but some offer to do it for 50 K tip. Hence, 30 K or 40 K for the girl, and a 120% or 140% tip / bribe for BBBJ (which included CIM). Note that I didn't pick up high end girls. From reading the reports, it seems BBBJ is standard (after you pay 300 to 500 K pesos?

5) Out of the 5 cases I went to, Chicas Milenio was the only one that didn't have the prices posted on the wall. The girls at Chicas Milenio are allowed to charge the customer extra. The normal price was 30 K for 20 minutes and 40 K for 30 minutes. Many at the beginning, charged me an extra 10 K. Didn't fight the charges since it is so cheap anyway. Plus, IMO, the overall lineup at Chicas Milenio (out of the 5) was the best.

6) Once I went to Chicas Milenio at 9 PM on a Saturday night. Empty. Only 3 girls in the lineup. It seems the best time to go there is around 5 PM during the weekdays. You will have the day shift girls still there, and girls from the night shift start to come in.

7) I love the stripjoints. But some of the waiters will try to rip you off for their tip (just like Tijuana). Some of the younger waiters at Pussy House will try to keep 2 K for their tip, even though the prices are posted right on the table. At Troya, club Colombia cost 6 K (Poker cost 5 K). Once I ordered a club Colombia, and the waiter attempted to keep 4 K. That was the most anyone tried. After I confirmed the price with the bartender, I got the money back. He then had the nerve to ask for a tip. I just laughed. Not all strip joint waiters were bad. I normally tip 1 or 2 K to the waiters if they don't try to rip me off. Then they really appreciate the tip and will give you fantastic service.

8) I forgot one of my travel rules: Always have exact change. Once at Santa Fe, I picked up a girl for 30 K. Then the lady at the booth charged a few mil pesos for either the room or the condom. I gave her 40 K. The girl picked up the change and didn't give it back to me. I didn't make a scene. I thought that would be her tip. I should have gotten the change back because her service was poor.

Bolongo
03-31-18, 02:24
Really late report. Overall, I really, really like Colombia. I prefer Bogota over Medellin and Cartagena.

Minor Annoyances I experienced:

1) I took the public taxi twice from the airport. Both times they tried to scam me for a few mil pesos. Once when I asked how much, he pointed to the meter (Did he expect me to pay 212 mil pesos? Note: the meter is just a number that you use to translate your fare. I'm still not sure how your calculate the fare when you roll over the fare table). Then he pointed to the per hour waiting charge. He tried to use that larger number as the airport surcharge.

2) Tried Uber one time at the airport. Uber sucks in Colombia. Not because of the rip-offs (they really can't rip you off; if they do, you just get a refund). It's because they're incompetent. They get lost due to all the one way streets. Uber drivers in Medellin and Cartegena were better. I guess it's because it's smaller with less one way streets.

3) YMMV with the girls. Of course, this happens everywhere in the world. Some of the girls at the cases were such poor performers. One girl asked for 20 or 30 mil more for her to do more than 5 minutes of CBJ. One reason might be that I chose the cutest girl in the lineup. But some of the girls at Chicas Milenio and the one across the street are surprising cute sometimes.

4) Very hard to get girls to perform BBBJ for the standard fee. Actually for me, it was impossible without offering a tip in the cases. Couple of the girls at the Pussy House strip joint asked for a tip for BBBJ. Couple of the girls from the strip joint across the street from the Pussy House asked for a tip for BBBJ and a lesbian show. I went to Santa Fe once to partake (only once, just to check it out. I prefer the cases). I asked about 5 of the cuter girls on the street for BBBJ. They all said no. In the casas, the girls said no, but some offer to do it for 50 K tip. Hence, 30 K or 40 K for the girl, and a 120% or 140% tip / bribe for BBBJ (which included CIM). Note that I didn't pick up high end girls. From reading the reports, it seems BBBJ is standard (after you pay 300 to 500 K pesos?

5) Out of the 5 cases I went to, Chicas Milenio was the only one that didn't have the prices posted on the wall. The girls at Chicas Milenio are allowed to charge the customer extra. The normal price was 30 K for 20 minutes and 40 K for 30 minutes. Many at the beginning, charged me an extra 10 K. Didn't fight the charges since it is so cheap anyway. Plus, IMO, the overall lineup at Chicas Milenio (out of the 5) was the best.

6) Once I went to Chicas Milenio at 9 PM on a Saturday night. Empty. Only 3 girls in the lineup. It seems the best time to go there is around 5 PM during the weekdays. You will have the day shift girls still there, and girls from the night shift start to come in.

7) I love the stripjoints. But some of the waiters will try to rip you off for their tip (just like Tijuana). Some of the younger waiters at Pussy House will try to keep 2 K for their tip, even though the prices are posted right on the table. At Troya, club Colombia cost 6 K (Poker cost 5 K). Once I ordered a club Colombia, and the waiter attempted to keep 4 K. That was the most anyone tried. After I confirmed the price with the bartender, I got the money back. He then had the nerve to ask for a tip. I just laughed. Not all strip joint waiters were bad. I normally tip 1 or 2 K to the waiters if they don't try to rip me off. Then they really appreciate the tip and will give you fantastic service.

8) I forgot one of my travel rules: Always have exact change. Once at Santa Fe, I picked up a girl for 30 K. Then the lady at the booth charged a few mil pesos for either the room or the condom. I gave her 40 K. The girl picked up the change and didn't give it back to me. I didn't make a scene. I thought that would be her tip. I should have gotten the change back because her service was poor.I usually have great Uber drivers. I only uber, never taxi. I have had success on photoprepagos. Until last night. But it was like 3 am. Young 18 year old shows up. She wanted to inspect my the ick before BBBJ, then said she didn't want to because she doesn't like to, even though my messages thru whatsapp specified that, but could tell I was talking to the agency, not her. I have a regular I see. 250 k for BBBJ, anal. She wants to go out and hang out now. She is pretty and enthusiastic.

I have not done the club's. Too much of an introvert. Never really been into the night scene.

Colbert1
03-31-18, 15:48
Could someone please tell me how they calculate a taxi fare after the number goes higher than the last number on the chart? I got ripped off the last time and I will be going to Bogota again and have to go to the Holiday Inn in Chapinero near 68th st. And Carrera 7. Thanks.

Mr Enternational
03-31-18, 18:27
Could someone please tell me how they calculate a taxi fare after the number goes higher than the last number on the chart? I got ripped off the last time and I will be going to Bogota again and have to go to the Holiday Inn in Chapinero near 68th st. And Carrera 7. Thanks.Call Uber. Whatever it is, the airport fare is lilke 4 K more than the meter fare. Last week I paid a taxi 30 K to go downtown. I was like what the fuck. Going back to the airport I paid Uber 22K (also from the airport to downtown 2 days later). When we got back to the airport from Armenia my girlfriend insisted she walk outside the airport to get a taxi home. She ended up paying 16K. She said it would have been 35K had she taken one from in front of the airport.

GreenBud
03-31-18, 22:45
Call Uber. Whatever it is, the airport fare is lilke 4 K more than the meter fare. Last week I paid a taxi 30 K to go downtown. I was like what the fuck. Going back to the airport I paid Uber 22K (also from the airport to downtown 2 days later). When we got back to the airport from Armenia my girlfriend insisted she walk outside the airport to get a taxi home. She ended up paying 16K. She said it would have been 35K had she taken one from in front of the airport.During normal business hours, you can get a Claro sim card at the Claro store on the departure level. You need a local number to use Uber. Never checked if they give you the local sim at the normal prices. I always got my sim card at the Claro store next to my Airbnb apartment in El Retiro. You also will have to spend additional time waiting for Uber. The one time I used Uber at the airport, the driver made me walk to the side street with my luggage. Irritating. But I still will use Uber. I feel more comfortable than using the taxi.

Your girlfriend must have negotiated a fare without the meter, since the airport surcharge is only 4.4 K.


I usually have great Uber drivers. I only uber, never taxi.I didn't have much trouble with Uber in the Zona T area, but Uber drivers had trouble dropping off and picking up from the Candelaria area. All the one way streets makes it confusing. Sometimes the Uber map is wrong regarding the one way streets. Also, the Uber directions will lag real time, so if the driver relies on it, he will miss the turns.


Could someone please tell me how they calculate a taxi fare after the number goes higher than the last number on the chart? I got ripped off the last time and I will be going to Bogota again and have to go to the Holiday Inn in Chapinero near 68th st. And Carrera 7. Thanks.Good taxi info on this site: http://www.howtobogota.com/2013/12/28/colombia-taxis/ I guess there are apps to calculate the fare.

After looking at the taxi fare table again (picture attached), it seems the fare goes up 100 pesos every meter unit. Actually, every 6th unit, the prices doesn't go up. So an easy approximation would be 100 pesos for each unit above the last number. With this approximation, you are giving the driver a few hundred pesos extra, which I don't mind if they don't try to rip me off. I actually tip them if they help me with my luggage and don't try to rip me off.

Hence with my fare of 307 from the airport to El Retiro, I guess I should have paid: 16,600 + (307 - 203) x 100 pesos + 4,400 (airport surcharge) = 31,400. I'm guessing the exact number is a few hundred pesos less.

Mr Enternational
03-31-18, 23:02
You need a local number to use Uber. You also will have to spend additional time waiting for Uber.Not true. I have not had a local number for years and have no problem using Uber. I had to wait 5 minutes last time for Uber at the airport. You can always order before you get outside because it gives you the option of which door to be picked up at. So 5 minutes saved me almost 10 K.

GreenBud
03-31-18, 23:21
It is nothing like Sosua because the girls don't try to rip you off. If anything they will help you.That's why I probably will never go back to the Dominican Republic. I went there once. Probably won't return, since Colombia, overall, is so much better than the DR.

GreenBud
03-31-18, 23:25
Not true. I have not had a local number for years and have no problem using Uber.OK. I guess after your sim card number expires, you can use the wi-fi to call Uber. But don't you need a local number to initially set up Uber?

Mr Enternational
04-01-18, 00:00
OK. I guess after your sim card number expires, you can use the wi-fi to call Uber. But don't you need a local number to initially set up Uber?I initially set up my Uber account in the USA. With my cell phone compnay T-Mobile I get free internet in almost every country in the world. But yes you can do it on wifi as well. That is how I usually do it when I am leaving a hotel going somewhere.

JjBee62
04-01-18, 01:32
Could someone please tell me how they calculate a taxi fare after the number goes higher than the last number on the chart? I got ripped off the last time and I will be going to Bogota again and have to go to the Holiday Inn in Chapinero near 68th st. And Carrera 7. Thanks.Walk out of the airport and get on one of the SITP buses. That will take you, for free to the El Dorado Transmilenio station. From there use the TAPPSI app on your phone to request a taxi. You'll get a better rate.

Pokeris
04-02-18, 01:07
Arrived from medellin check in at my hotel take a shower book uber and went santa fe around 15.00 pm uber drop me between calle 23 and carrera 16. First place visited was punto de oro is was open but few girls inside so I left. I decided walk around so start from carrera 16 see some girls standing outside near short time motels but they was not my type so I comeback to club (calle 23#16-02) opposite punto de oro. Its club without name on the Bogota map but the name of the club is paso Texas I find out it when I go inside. Sit order aquila light for 6000 mil and was looking some girls is dancing. One girl was quiet naughty was dancing naked and pour beer or her tits. Later other girl star dancing and take her clothes of she has a piercing in her pussy so its looks sexy for me and she was not so bad looking compare with other 6-8 girls inside so I decided to take her. I pay 40 mil for 20 minutes. The girl escort me to the room next to the bar on ground floor. The room was so small like a prison cell I start to take of my clothes already and other girl come and said go other room it was little bit bigger. I.

F. uck the girl for 20 minutes but could cum. Next place I went it was atons club it was open but just few girls inside so I left. Next I try to go fiebre sex strip club but security guy told me is not open yet. So my next stop was at club la cosona have maybe 20 girls inside but just 2-3 I like I order aquila light for 8000 mil I ask waiter how much is girls for 30 minutes he told me every girls is asking diffrent he ask me which girl I like I told him I like the petite girl who is dancing now with taattos. When she finish dance he goes to her ask how much she want and comeback to me said 100 mil for 30 minutes. Its sounds not right to me because by the Bogota map list this place girls cost 50 mil for 20 minutes. So I told him gracias I don't need that girl and waiter left. After 5 minutes I walk myself to that girl and ask how much she want for 30 minutes she told 80 mil and I agree (lesson learn better deal straight with girl than ask price for waiter) girl escort me to room staircases up on first floor the room was not clean and small I go shower and wash myself little bit and after ask girl towel she point to toilet paper: the as they don't have towels at this place. The girl I take was venezualian 21 years old name jordania she make me cover blowjob and after she ride on me for a while till I cum. This girl was nothing special. I finish my beer and left. Find a taxi and comeback my hotel will rest for a while and comeback santa fe later tonight maybe will be more action.