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MjTravelLove
06-22-18, 05:05
Actually- At different times there are Hot girls in many clubs in Santa Fe just like those 3 you mention. If you ignore the others you may be missing out-.

Paisa, La Casona, Lion, Atones, California, Texas, Punto de Oro- are all worthy.

Be careful when you get to a club- make sure you find out prices of drinks before you order as sometimes waiters will jack up the price on drinks. This happened to a friend at California- was overcharged like $15000 or so.

It is best to pay as you drink and not run a tab. Colombian beers are generally $6000.

Actually there are exit fees at most clubs except Atunes.

Spot-on about doing a session at the club to see what the girls like-.Thanks for this info and clarifications.

What are the exit fees at most clubs?

And, what is normal for a chica to charge for going home with you -- maybe not all night, but at least, a long session like 3-6 hours.

MjTravelLove
06-22-18, 05:47
I have scoured this message board, and gotten some good answers to my questions on the board and via PM (thanks fellas!

I still need some clarity?

Is there ANYWHERE worth going outside of Santa Fe, especially the most popular 4 or 5 of them.

I get the feeling that the ONLY think worth considering is looking for hot non-pros in the Zona Rosa, perhaps. But as par as P2 P, it's entirely in Santa Fe.

No?

Woodman09
06-22-18, 07:47
Thanks for this info and clarifications.

What are the exit fees at most clubs?

And, what is normal for a chica to charge for going home with you -- maybe not all night, but at least, a long session like 3-6 hours.I'm really not sure about exit fees- but I'd say $60-$80 mil- I think you could probably negotiate a long time for $300-$600 or more. It depends on your hooker game. 'Hooker Game' LOL.

Woodman09
06-22-18, 08:41
Not mentioned often here is Santa Fe South or Cheep Santa Fe. Located 1 block south from 22nd st.

It's interesting to walk through as you feel like your in a scene from Narcos and there's about to be a big gun fight / massacre.

It's definitely worth seeing just for the tourism value.

Actually very safe. There are usually cops around. So there are a lot of girls some are hot. I have met a few cuties.

Map attached shows the location. There are about 100 girls or so. All street WG.

Prices can be $25-$35. Some girls are streetie Sweeties in Santa Fe Proper too.

Look out for trannies usually at 19th street and at 21st and a block west.

There are other brothels and strolls downtown. Even the market place at San Victorino has a few girls in the plaza.

Woodman09
06-22-18, 08:53
I have scoured this message board, and gotten some good answers to my questions on the board and via PM (thanks fellas!

I still need some clarity?

Is there ANYWHERE worth going outside of Santa Fe, especially the most popular 4 or 5 of them.

I get the feeling that the ONLY think worth considering is looking for hot non-pros in the Zona Rosa, perhaps. But as par as P2 P, it's entirely in Santa Fe.

No?A few daytime place in Chapinero, sometimes daytime places could have some real lookers who don't want to work in SF.

La Messanine is usually worth it.

https://www.google.com/maps/@4.6889338, -74.046973,3 a,85 y,293.8 h,93.2 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 sgyKRu4 xceRVr6 sHfe428 RQ!2 e0!7 i13312!8 i6656.

On Carera 8 (octava) There's a strip joint Casa Show. There could be some Hot Ass housewife in there.

https://www.google.com/maps/@4.6061273, -74.0720755,3 a,75 y,343.24 h,93.74 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 s7 ZGcDlTYml9 fby2 NpEq1 JA!2 e0!7 i13312!8 i6656.

Global00
06-22-18, 13:11
Thanks for the info. I usually don't have a problem with Uber in Bogota, it's just been a few occasions where I run into guys like Him.


When calling Uber from the airport, you will want to wait in the central parking lot that you see when you exit the airport (where all the taxis). Under no circumstance should you wait near the taxi stands. When the driver arrives, go up to him and pretend he's your buddy (give him daps or a hug) and sit in the front seat.

JjBee62
06-22-18, 13:34
I have scoured this message board, and gotten some good answers to my questions on the board and via PM (thanks fellas!

I still need some clarity?

Is there ANYWHERE worth going outside of Santa Fe, especially the most popular 4 or 5 of them.

I get the feeling that the ONLY think worth considering is looking for hot non-pros in the Zona Rosa, perhaps. But as par as P2 P, it's entirely in Santa Fe.

No?No. Scouring the board is great for removing stains, but not much good for gathering information. I'd recommend reading it for that.

There's a ton of information on the board about all the options outside of Santa Fe. The most complete collection of information can be found in Routard's post in this thread or in the reports of distinction thread.

You mostly read about Santa Fe because it's the cheapest option. There are options from well south of Santa Fe, where gringos don't go (except someone will chime in that they have gone there and it was perfectly safe), to Cedritos.

It might help if you go to the Bogota lists thread and find World travel's maps of Bogota. Once you've finished scouring, that is.

JjBee62
06-22-18, 13:40
Thanks for the info. I usually don't have a problem with Uber in Bogota, it's just been a few occasions where I run into guys like Him.The problem with Uber in Colombia is that the taxi drivers will beat them up if they catch them. There were some taxistas throwing rocks at Ubers last year in Medellin. So the drivers don't want to pick up around taxis.

If you're not carrying too much baggage there's a free solution. Take the SITP bus to Portal El Dorado. That's the first Transmilenio station. Have the Uber pick you up there.

Global00
06-22-18, 14:05
Since my first night wasn't successful I was itching for my grande culos the next morning. Went to Sante Fe around 10:30 am. The scene was buzzing as usual. I usually do a lap or two around Sante Fe just to see my options. I ultimately find the best looking chicha on carrera 15 or the street where La Piscina is located. I picked a 26 year old Canela skinned Venezuelan from Caracas called Candy. She greeted me with a huge smile that last the entire session and she had butt I was looking for. The session was good the pussy was so so but tried her best to please which I always appreciate. Cost 40 k for 30 minutes. She is the one with tattoos in the picture below.

After satisfying my needs, I decided to go eat. Took an Uber up to Chaperino. Stopped at a panadería across from Tantra Spa. Had the worst lunch ever LOL but always enjoy the friendliness of the people so I didn't cause a fuss. Walked down to my favorite panadería right down the street and bought a bunuela. They have my favorite which I discovered in Medellin. A sugared donut with caramel inside. After that, I walked back to Tantra Spa. They have a world cup theme going on through out the building. I was presented with about 12 girls. Most of them doable. I would say age range look like early 20's up to one who looked like she was in her 40's. Half of the girls looked Venezuelan and I happened to chose one who was. I chose Tatiana (I believe this was her name) a 24 year old chubby cheek bubble butt from Caracas. Best session of the 4 I had today. Soft skin, relatively tight super wet pink pussy. It seemed she was enjoying as much as I was. She gave a massage before the session but clearly let me know she was ready for action. 50 k for 30 minutes. She is girl pictured in the red light background.

Went back to the apartment and relax for a little while. Also did some research where I could watch the NBA draft amongst the world cup hype. Showered then took a nap. Woke up around 5:30. Got dressed and walked back down to Sante Fe. Did my lap and walked into Troya and atunes. There were some girls there but not alot. I never found anything I really like in atunes but I always check it out just in case. I found a pretty 20 year old Colombians names Paula. She didn't have the ass I craved but was cute and only wanted 30 k so I was game. I never really seek a BBBJ but she offered it but I just wanted to fuck and go find the draft LOL. So I made this a quick session. Pussy was decent she was a star fish which really never bothers me. If they are nice and let you do what you want I'm usually good about it. She wouldn't let me get pictures though bummer. Anyway, I called an Uber and drove across town to look for a bar called sports champ. Its located inside a mall supposedly. I got there walked around and couldn't find it. The security guard told me that it was changed to La Beera which I walked past when I entered the mall. I seen they weren't playing it. Oh well. I walked across the street and found some restaurants serving typical fast food Colombian arepas, chicken Broaster, etc. I sat down ordered some food and watched the draft on my phone. After it was over, I headed back to Sante fe. It was around 9:30 when I got back. I went to Troya and Fiebre because they have the best talent I found from past experiences. Fiebre definitely won in the talent department. But loses on security drinking buying annoyance. I always order a non alcoholic drink and just post up until I find what I want. I bought a jug of club soda and these drink Nazis kept asking me to buy a drink where I had to point them to my huge jug of club soda. The one security took it away and then circles back and ask if I'm going to buy a drink LOL. I was like I didn't tell you to take my drink and other security guard comes to intervene and tells him to go get me more club soda. Soon after that another security guard comes and ask me to buy a drink. I again point to my club soda and I'm finally free from the nazis for the rest of the night. So after that debacle, I'm finally in the clear to find a girl. I find a 26 year browned skinned bubble butt Paisa named Pamela. She had my favorite ass of the day. It was fake of course but nicely done and soft. Her pussy was just ok but she was the most active of the day. She left me tired and satisfied. 60 k for the session.

I was beat after that and went home showered and slept like a baby and dreamt of how much I love Colombia LOL.

Blade2000
06-22-18, 15:42
I have scoured this message board, and gotten some good answers to my questions on the board and via PM (thanks fellas!

I still need some clarity?

Is there ANYWHERE worth going outside of Santa Fe, especially the most popular 4 or 5 of them.

I get the feeling that the ONLY think worth considering is looking for hot non-pros in the Zona Rosa, perhaps. But as par as P2 P, it's entirely in Santa Fe.

No?To answer your question about non-pros first, can't help you much there. I don't have much game in the US, so trying to pick up women with broken Spanish would probably be a waste of time for me. However, there is a club called La Villa in the El-Retiro area. Tuesdays are gringo night where at around 7 PM, groups of Colombians meet at tables to practice their English with fluent English speakers. Then after the talking session the club turns into a normal dance club with alcohol. I have been to the dance part late at night and the club is packed with a few hundred people and there are 8-9 levels girls all around. I was with a friend when I went and we were planning a tour of Santa Fe, so I didn't try to pull any girls, but they were showing me a lot of attention probably mostly because I'm a gringo and better than average looking. If you have game, even only English, I think there's a good chance you can pull a solid 9 from here.

Bogota's P4P seen is huge, but for me it's only Santa Fe clubs and Pussy House in Chaperino area. I have started putting the destination in uber to the Havana casino a block away when I go to pussy house, since I don't like the awkwardness of the uber guy confirming "Pussy House" as my destination, LOL. As woodman has correctly mentioned, there are more than just Atunes, Fiebres, and Troya. I was walking down one of the streets in Santa Fe at night and saw this thin cute girl with glasses. She looked like a shy librarian so I asked her where she worked in broken Spanish. She asked me if I speak English and after I said yes, she told in perfect English with native US accent that she worked at Atones (not Atunes). First, I couldn't believe she worked at Atones, since in the past years that club consistently only had 2 or 3 ugly girls in it, and maybe 5 aggressive guys outside trying to get you to come in and at least buy a drink. Her English was so perfect that I assumed she was an American working in Santa Fe for some odd reason. It turned out that her mom had been teaching her English her whole life while in Venezuela. I almost fell in love with her just based on that US schoolgirl accent.

We went to Atones for a session and I couldn't believe how many girls in there. I would say about 50 girls and 30 guys. I'm guessing 100% of the girls are from Venezuela. After looking around a bit, most of the girls were in the 4-6 range, so really not worth visiting. The girl I had with me was the hottest one there and she was maybe 7.5 hotness. She didn't look quite as good naked but not bad, and sex wasn't that great, but her English accent was turning me on. The destruction of Venezuela has definitely benefited whoever owns the Atones club and the traditionally weaker clubs in the area. The cab driver also mentioned that sex has become really cheap as he is able to negotiate down to very low prices, I think he said 20-30 K COP. If you're a foreigner though, there is no point trying to go that low, and he's probably not dealing with the hottest girls.

A cab driver I was talking to mentioned that most of Santa Fe is now Venezuelans and most Colombian prepagos had moved to other countries where the scene was easier. Not sure how true that is as I have recently pulled several Colombians, but there is a huge Venezuelan presence. Over the past couple years coming to Santa Fe, usually once a year, I've noticed that there is a fresh group of faces every year, which is good since it suggests the girls aren't too hardened. There are two girls in Fiebres that have been there every time I've come and pretty much every night I'm there. Those two are the definition of hardened hooker, but they are both still pretty attractive.

I probably had the best mongering day of my life last night. I think I pulled 7 girls in one day, which is a record. My previous record was 5. I tried something different this time since there were so many hot girls around that I wanted to get with. I only came with three of them I think. The rest I fucked but didn't cum with as it's difficult for me to cum when using a condom anyway. This left me with a type of blueballs but in a good way. It kept me horny longer and I knew if I wanted a release I could get it within 10 minutes. All 7 girls were good sessions and two were amazing. The best was with a Venezuelan blond at Fiebres that has a model body and pretty face. I would say a 10 on the body and 8-9 face. Looks like an thin, tall American college girl with blonde hair, blue eyes, and white skin. She is not on the floor much because most of the time she upstairs getting fucked. She doesn't allow much except for vanilla sex. No kissing, no DATY, so FIV. Her covered BJ was great, not so much because of the feeling, but more just looking at her stunning face going down on you. She did allow me to rub her perfect pussy while she was standing while she jerked me to a finish.

The other great session was with a girl named Andrea at Troya. Killer body with attractive face, but not stunning. Her technique on top was amazing and felt great even with a condom on, so was her CBJ. Later, I was on my back fingering her while she was kneeling upright next to me. Then she grabbed my arm and starting jamming my hand into her hard as if it were a dildo. My finger was going deep inside on either side of her hard cervix. I was almost afraid I was hurting her, but she kept on jamming it in harder. Didn't take long to finish as I was jerking myself at the same time.

I wasn't keeping track of costs, but I'm guessing I spent less than 600 K COP for 7 girls. This is about $200 US. I make that in day of work. The actual cost is much higher when you figure in airplane and hotel costs, but still a good deal. Cost of uber and food is negligible in Columbia unless you eat at high end places.

One other thought was when I pull girls on busy nights there is a waiting time for the rooms. At this time I see locals coming out with ugly girls. I just can't understand this. They work hard for their money so I would think they would want to pull one of the hotter ones. My only guess is that they are getting extra services or lower than standard prices. But a lot of the girls I see I wouldn't touch even if it were free.

World Travel 69
06-22-18, 19:38
The link was broken.


A few daytime places in Chapinero, sometimes daytime places could have some real lookers who don't want to work in SF.

La Mezzanine is usually worth it.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1Y7d556oDwhh_X83ZCec7ItKPaXQ&ll=4.703915718162304%2C-74.04540605000005&z=13

On Carrera 8 (octava) There's a strip joint Casa Show Pasarela. There could be some Hot Ass housewife in there.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.62792499704242%2C-74.10892404999998&z=13

World Travel 69
06-22-18, 20:17
Three of us went to Venezuela. Our cards got used a lot. Mine came to US $5000. I used mine at 4-5 star hotels and two gift shops. They used mine at casinos, bars, car parts, grocery stores and Hamburger places.

Always use cash if you can.


Can I use credit card at Lido's?

Global00
06-22-18, 20:20
I think Bogota has the best scene in the world for value. Sante fe and the Chaperino area should be able to satisfy even the pickiest man's test. Alot of women in just these two areas.


Bogota's P4P seen is huge, but for me it's only Santa Fe clubs and Pussy House in Chaperino area.I would agree with this statement. There are alot of Venezuelans. I have been coming for a couple years and notice the same thing.

Makes me want to go to Venezuela. This is just the easier option.


Not sure how true that is as I have pulled several Colombians, but there is a huge Venezuelan presence. Over the past couple years coming to Santa Fe, usually once a year, I've noticed that there is a fresh group of faces every year, which is good since it suggests the girls aren't too hardened. I think I seen you with her last night LOL.


The best was with a Venezuelan blond at Fiebres that has a model body and pretty face. I would say a 10 on the body and 8-9 face. Looks like an thin, tall American college girl with blonde hair, blue eyes, and white skin. She is not on the floor much because most of the time she upstairs getting fucked.

Woodman09
06-22-18, 20:52
The link was broken.Casa Show is a day / night club-- I Boned a hottie in there a few years back-- It has a lot of business men in there- https://direccion.com.co/lugar/bogota/casa-show-pasarela-internacional-bogota/.

La Mezzanine-- http://clasificados.eltiempo.com/anuncio/aviso-erotica/amantes-nuevo-personal-hermosas-masajes-eroticos/4554347.

Woodman09
06-22-18, 21:05
For great prices on generic viagra and Cialyss at Farmacia Alemana. I get 4 50 MG viagras for $3.50-.

Located a door down from Cerdo Rey Hambuguesas- really good burgers.

https://www.tripadvisor.co/Restaurant_Review-g294074-d10941639-Reviews-Cerdo_Rey_Burger-Bogota.html

Eszpresszo
06-23-18, 01:39
I think Bogota has the best scene in the world for value. Sante fe and the Chaperino area should be able to satisfy even the pickiest man's test. Nah. There's always going to be someone who will find something wrong with the women. Read through all the persnickity attitudes on the Thailand threads for an idea of what I'm talking about. But, I believe what you say and now I'm in!

Now that we've discussed the important topic of the quality of the women, I have a question about getting around. Earlier someone was grousing about the poor service with Uber in Bogota. I can certainly relate, as I recently had a Uber driver in Bali refuse to take me to my MP of choice, since he thought he knew where I needed to go instead. But as far as Bogota goes, is there much of a cost savings using Uber over a regular cab? I was in Medellin two years ago, and the cost of cabs was really cheap. Of course, the exchange rate was a bit better then, an Medellin appears to be smaller as well. Not to mention I took the Metro (El train) most of the time because it was faster than the traffic most of the time, and left no questions as to what it cost (virtually nada) and where you were going.

That said, is Uber worth the trouble or have some particular perks? Thanks.

Oil Stain
06-23-18, 02:18
Nah. There's always going to be someone who will find something wrong with the women. Read through all the persnickity attitudes on the Thailand threads for an idea of what I'm talking about. But, I believe what you say and now I'm in!

Now that we've discussed the important topic of the quality of the women, I have a question about getting around. Earlier someone was grousing about the poor service with Uber in Bogota. I can certainly relate, as I recently had a Uber driver in Bali refuse to take me to my MP of choice, since he thought he knew where I needed to go instead. But as far as Bogota goes, is there much of a cost savings using Uber over a regular cab? I was in Medellin two years ago, and the cost of cabs was really cheap. Of course, the exchange rate was a bit better then, an Medellin appears to be smaller as well. Not to mention I took the Metro (El train) most of the time because it was faster than the traffic most of the time, and left no questions as to what it cost (virtually nada) and where you were going.

That said, is Uber worth the trouble or have some particular perks? Thanks.Cab fares rarely exceed 20 k cop. To and from El Dorado Airport will cost 30-50 k cop depending on the length of the ride. Before you get into a cab in Bogota make sure the driver has his identification card hung from the front passenger seat of his cab. The card is a 8 x 11" and laminated. At the end of the ride there is a meter (facing backward from the passenger side windshield) that will read what the fare is. Also there has been some labor unrest concerning ride sharing companies in Bogota.

MjTravelLove
06-23-18, 04:38
No. Scouring the board is great for removing stains, but not much good for gathering information. I'd recommend reading it for that.

There's a ton of information on the board about all the options outside of Santa Fe. The most complete collection of information can be found in Routard's post in this thread or in the reports of distinction thread.

You mostly read about Santa Fe because it's the cheapest option. There are options from well south of Santa Fe, where gringos don't go (except someone will chime in that they have gone there and it was perfectly safe), to Cedritos.

It might help if you go to the Bogota lists thread and find World travel's maps of Bogota. Once you've finished scouring, that is.Fair enough, apart from the backhanded tone. I ahve seen the map many times. I see hundreds of establishments, obviously. But people only report on Santa Fe. Some say it's because it is the best option, not just the cheapest.

Might I ask what your suggestions are in terms of places to visit?

MjT.

MjTravelLove
06-23-18, 04:40
To answer your question about non-pros first, can't help you much there. I don't have much game in the US, so trying to pick up women with broken Spanish would probably be a waste of time for me. However, there is a club called La Villa in the El-Retiro area. Tuesdays are gringo night where at around 7 PM, groups of Colombians meet at tables to practice their English with fluent English speakers. Then after the talking session the club turns into a normal dance club with alcohol. I have been to the dance part late at night and the club is packed with a few hundred people and there are 8-9 levels girls all around. I was with a friend when I went and we were planning a tour of Santa Fe, so I didn't try to pull any girls, but they were showing me a lot of attention probably mostly because I'm a gringo and better than average looking. If you have game, even only English, I think there's a good chance you can pull a solid 9 from here.

Bogota's P4P seen is huge, but for me it's only Santa Fe clubs and Pussy House in Chaperino area. I have started putting the destination in uber to the Havana casino a block away when I go to pussy house, since I don't like the awkwardness of the uber guy confirming "Pussy House" as my destination, LOL. As woodman has correctly mentioned, there are more than just Atunes, Fiebres, and Troya. I was walking down one of the streets in Santa Fe at night and saw this thin cute girl with glasses. She looked like a shy librarian so I asked her where she worked in broken Spanish. She asked me if I speak English and after I said yes, she told in perfect English with native US accent that she worked at Atones (not Atunes). First, I couldn't believe she worked at Atones, since in the past years that club consistently only had 2 or 3 ugly girls in it, and maybe 5 aggressive guys outside trying to get you to come in and at least buy a drink. Her English was so perfect that I assumed she was an American working in Santa Fe for some odd reason. It turned out that her mom had been teaching her English her whole life while in Venezuela. I almost fell in love with her just based on that US schoolgirl accent.

We went to Atones for a session and I couldn't believe how many girls in there. I would say about 50 girls and 30 guys. I'm guessing 100% of the girls are from Venezuela. After looking around a bit, most of the girls were in the 4-6 range, so really not worth visiting. The girl I had with me was the hottest one there and she was maybe 7.5 hotness. She didn't look quite as good naked but not bad, and sex wasn't that great, but her English accent was turning me on. The destruction of Venezuela has definitely benefited whoever owns the Atones club and the traditionally weaker clubs in the area. The cab driver also mentioned that sex has become really cheap as he is able to negotiate down to very low prices, I think he said 20-30 K COP. If you're a foreigner though, there is no point trying to go that low, and he's probably not dealing with the hottest girls.

A cab driver I was talking to mentioned that most of Santa Fe is now Venezuelans and most Colombian prepagos had moved to other countries where the scene was easier. Not sure how true that is as I have recently pulled several Colombians, but there is a huge Venezuelan presence. Over the past couple years coming to Santa Fe, usually once a year, I've noticed that there is a fresh group of faces every year, which is good since it suggests the girls aren't too hardened. There are two girls in Fiebres that have been there every time I've come and pretty much every night I'm there. Those two are the definition of hardened hooker, but they are both still pretty attractive.

I probably had the best mongering day of my life last night. I think I pulled 7 girls in one day, which is a record. My previous record was 5. I tried something different this time since there were so many hot girls around that I wanted to get with. I only came with three of them I think. The rest I fucked but didn't cum with as it's difficult for me to cum when using a condom anyway. This left me with a type of blueballs but in a good way. It kept me horny longer and I knew if I wanted a release I could get it within 10 minutes. All 7 girls were good sessions and two were amazing. The best was with a Venezuelan blond at Fiebres that has a model body and pretty face. I would say a 10 on the body and 8-9 face. Looks like an thin, tall American college girl with blonde hair, blue eyes, and white skin. She is not on the floor much because most of the time she upstairs getting fucked. She doesn't allow much except for vanilla sex. No kissing, no DATY, so FIV. Her covered BJ was great, not so much because of the feeling, but more just looking at her stunning face going down on you. She did allow me to rub her perfect pussy while she was standing while she jerked me to a finish.

The other great session was with a girl named Andrea at Troya. Killer body with attractive face, but not stunning. Her technique on top was amazing and felt great even with a condom on, so was her CBJ. Later, I was on my back fingering her while she was kneeling upright next to me. Then she grabbed my arm and starting jamming my hand into her hard as if it were a dildo. My finger was going deep inside on either side of her hard cervix. I was almost afraid I was hurting her, but she kept on jamming it in harder. Didn't take long to finish as I was jerking myself at the same time.

I wasn't keeping track of costs, but I'm guessing I spent less than 600 K COP for 7 girls. This is about $200 US. I make that in day of work. The actual cost is much higher when you figure in airplane and hotel costs, but still a good deal. Cost of uber and food is negligible in Columbia unless you eat at high end places.

One other thought was when I pull girls on busy nights there is a waiting time for the rooms. At this time I see locals coming out with ugly girls. I just can't understand this. They work hard for their money so I would think they would want to pull one of the hotter ones. My only guess is that they are getting extra services or lower than standard prices. But a lot of the girls I see I wouldn't touch even if it were free.Thanks. Love the details. How about current exit fees? And prices for long and short term sessions.

MjTravelLove
06-23-18, 04:42
I'm really not sure about exit fees- but I'd say $60-$80 mil- I think you could probably negotiate a long time for $300-$600 or more. It depends on your hooker game. 'Hooker Game' LOL.HAha, thanks for the info!

MjT.

Global00
06-23-18, 04:51
You are definitely right. Like I said "should" satisfy. I've read the Thailand threads and been to Thailand a few times. I know they can be crazy picky and for no reason.

Uber is the way to go. I only really experience problems at the airport a few times. I think because of the taxi mafia scares the shit out them. But it's my means for getting around. There could be a price difference for sure. Most people stay in Chaperino or Zona Rosa. Going back and forth from there I would say is around 5000-7000 pesos depending if choose Uber pool or Uber X. You are probably looking at 10000 pesos from zona rosa to Sante Fe. With a taxi you would pay more. In Medellíand they put on their meters. In Bogota it seems they like to haggle. Medellíand Is less spread out than Bogota so the prices are more. But taxis are more abundant and you wouldn't have to wait for an Uber. But I prefer Uber even with it's caveats.


Nah. There's always going to be someone who will find something wrong with the women. Read through all the persnickity attitudes on the Thailand threads for an idea of what I'm talking about. But, I believe what you say and now I'm in!

Now that we've discussed the important topic of the quality of the women, I have a question about getting around. Earlier someone was grousing about the poor service with Uber in Bogota. I can certainly relate, as I recently had a Uber driver in Bali refuse to take me to my MP of choice, since he thought he knew where I needed to go instead. But as far as Bogota goes, is there much of a cost savings using Uber over a regular cab? I was in Medellin two years ago, and the cost of cabs was really cheap. Of course, the exchange rate was a bit better then, an Medellin appears to be smaller as well. Not to mention I took the Metro (El train) most of the time because it was faster than the traffic most of the time, and left no questions as to what it cost (virtually nada) and where you were going.

That said, is Uber worth the trouble or have some particular perks? Thanks.

StripperMan
06-23-18, 06:20
To answer your question about non-pros first, can't help you much there. I don't have much game in the US, so trying to pick up women with broken Spanish would probably be a waste of time for me. However, there is a club called La Villa in the El-Retiro area. Tuesdays are gringo night where at around 7 PM, groups of Colombians meet at tables to practice their English with fluent English speakers. Then after the talking session the club turns into a normal dance club with alcohol. I have been to the dance part late at night and the club is packed with a few hundred people and there are 8-9 levels girls all around. I was with a friend when I went and we were planning a tour of Santa Fe, so I didn't try to pull any girls, but they were showing me a lot of attention probably mostly because I'm a gringo and better than average looking. If you have game, even only English, I think there's a good chance you can pull a solid 9 from here.

Bogota's P4P seen is huge, but for me it's only Santa Fe clubs and Pussy House in Chaperino area. I have started putting the destination in uber to the Havana casino a block away when I go to pussy house, since I don't like the awkwardness of the uber guy confirming "Pussy House" as my destination, LOL. As woodman has correctly mentioned, there are more than just Atunes, Fiebres, and Troya. I was walking down one of the streets in Santa Fe at night and saw this thin cute girl with glasses. She looked like a shy librarian so I asked her where she worked in broken Spanish. She asked me if I speak English and after I said yes, she told in perfect English with native US accent that she worked at Atones (not Atunes). First, I couldn't believe she worked at Atones, since in the past years that club consistently only had 2 or 3 ugly girls in it, and maybe 5 aggressive guys outside trying to get you to come in and at least buy a drink. Her English was so perfect that I assumed she was an American working in Santa Fe for some odd reason. It turned out that her mom had been teaching her English her whole life while in Venezuela. I almost fell in love with her just based on that US schoolgirl accent...Hey was this shy librarian girl you described named Naomi? Did she have a white girl or euro girl type of face?

I fucked her twice on my last trip about 6 months ago. The first time was great. The second was a complete waste of time. I paid 60 k each time at Antony's bar where she was working (near Fiebre).

Woodman09
06-23-18, 07:18
Yes. When I go to Santa Fe I take my Vitamin V before I leave the house.


I think Bogota has the best scene in the world for value. Sante fe and the Chaperino area should be able to satisfy even the pickiest man's test. Alot of women in just these two areas.

I would agree with this statement. There are alot of Venezuelans. I have been coming for a couple years and notice the same thing.

Makes me want to go to Venezuela. This is just the easier option.

I think I seen you with her last night LOL.

Woodman09
06-23-18, 08:15
To answer your question about non-pros first, can't help you much there. I don't have much game in the US, so trying to pick up women with broken Spanish would probably be a waste of time for me. However, there is a club called La Villa in the El-Retiro area. Tuesdays are gringo night where at around 7 PM, groups of Colombians meet at tables to practice their English with fluent English speakers. Then after the talking session the club turns into a normal dance club with alcohol. I have been to the dance part late at night and the club is packed with a few hundred people and there are 8-9 levels girls all around. I was with a friend when I went and we were planning a tour of Santa Fe, so I didn't try to pull any girls, but they were showing me a lot of attention probably mostly because I'm a gringo and better than average looking. If you have game, even only English, I think there's a good chance you can pull a solid 9 from here..If you walk through Zona Rosa on a Fri-Sat Night. You will see some of the Hottest non-pro action. Also in Chapinero clubs and Galerias club area.

I used to teach English at a school with a bunch of 20 something Britts, Aussies and North Americans and some of these guys would be getting so much Hot young non-pro action. These guys would never think of going to SF.


Bogota's P4P seen is huge, but for me it's only Santa Fe clubs and Pussy House in Chaperino area. I have started putting the destination in uber to the Havana casino a block away when I go to pussy house, since I don't like the awkwardness of the uber guy confirming "Pussy House" as my destination, LOL. As woodman has correctly mentioned, there are more than just Atunes, Fiebres, and Troya. I was walking down one of the streets in Santa Fe at night and saw this thin cute girl with glasses. She looked like a shy librarian so I asked her where she worked in broken Spanish. She asked me if I speak English and after I said yes, she told in perfect English with native US accent that she worked at Atones (not Atunes). First, I couldn't believe she worked at Atones, since in the past years that club consistently only had 2 or 3 ugly girls in it, and maybe 5 aggressive guys outside trying to get you to come in and at least buy a drink. Her English was so perfect that I assumed she was an American working in Santa Fe for some odd reason. It turned out that her mom had been teaching her English her whole life while in Venezuela. I almost fell in love with her just based on that US schoolgirl accent..Yes Atones, Lion, La Casona, Venus, Punto de Oro, California and Texas all have lotsa Venecas-- I Love going in there and just hanging out and knoodling with 2 or 3, grinding on them like you're in a club. I usually can find some that are fun like that. And there are super hot white Venecas too!

I Always take my vitamin V before I go to Santa Fe!

Super cuties Hanging there on Calle 23 between 15 and 16. That's so hot, they line up on the curb there and you can walk up and mac to them.


A cab driver I was talking to mentioned that most of Santa Fe is now Venezuelans and most Colombian prepagos had moved to other countries where the scene was easier. Not sure how true that is as I have recently pulled several Colombians, but there is a huge Venezuelan presence. Over the past couple years coming to Santa Fe, usually once a year, I've noticed that there is a fresh group of faces every year, which is good since it suggests the girls aren't too hardened. There are two girls in Fiebres that have been there every time I've come and pretty much every night I'm there. Those two are the definition of hardened hooker, but they are both still pretty attractive.There still are tons of Hot ass Colombianas -- But this time will be known as the salad years for P4 P in Colombia. I have been here for 7 yrs and it's always been good It's great now!!


I probably had the best mongering day of my life last night. I think I pulled 7 girls in one day, which is a record. My previous record was 5. I tried something different this time since there were so many hot girls around that I wanted to get with. I only came with three of them I think. The rest I fucked but didn't cum with as it's difficult for me to cum when using a condom anyway. This left me with a type of blueballs but in a good way. It kept me horny longer and I knew if I wanted a release I could get it within 10 minutes. All 7 girls were good sessions and two were amazing. The best was with a Venezuelan blond at Fiebres that has a model body and pretty face. I would say a 10 on the body and 8-9 face. Looks like an thin, tall American college girl with blonde hair, blue eyes, and white skin. She is not on the floor much because most of the time she upstairs getting fucked. She doesn't allow much except for vanilla sex. No kissing, no DATY, so FIV. Her covered BJ was great, not so much because of the feeling, but more just looking at her stunning face going down on you. She did allow me to rub her perfect pussy while she was standing while she jerked me to a finish..Wow, 7 Girls, that's a lot-- I'm in my 50's so those 7 girl days are gone--LOL. As I said before I always take my V before I leave the house. I walk through SF south just to see if there are any new gems in the rough. Maybe a girl will catch my eye for a quickee. If that doesn't happen I walk into SF and do a round checking out the streety sweetie options. Just looking for a quick session to get the pressure off. So after I session I will go smoke a joint and have a coffee and wander back through SF -- If the 1st girl really rocks my world I go for un Otro Rato. Many times I will double session with certain girls, cause it's just too good.

Otherwise Maybe go into club and see what's doing, Usually will session again and go smoke some more. Check out the girls some more. Maybe. Sometimes another session. But usually I go eat fried chicken.


The other great session was with a girl named Andrea at Troya. Killer body with attractive face, but not stunning. Her technique on top was amazing and felt great even with a condom on, so was her CBJ. Later, I was on my back fingering her while she was kneeling upright next to me. Then she grabbed my arm and starting jamming my hand into her hard as if it were a dildo. My finger was going deep inside on either side of her hard cervix. I was almost afraid I was hurting her, but she kept on jamming it in harder. Didn't take long to finish as I was jerking myself at the same time..Yes. There are so many girls that enjoy there job. Fun girls the best!


I wasn't keeping track of costs, but I'm guessing I spent less than 600 K COP for 7 girls. This is about $200 US. I make that in day of work. The actual cost is much higher when you figure in airplane and hotel costs, but still a good deal. Cost of uber and food is negligible in Columbia unless you eat at high end places.

One other thought was when I pull girls on busy nights there is a waiting time for the rooms. At this time I see locals coming out with ugly girls. I just can't understand this. They work hard for their money so I would think they would want to pull one of the hotter ones..I have been spoiled living here, I can never leave.

Global00
06-23-18, 14:41
After going to a few places Punting George mentioned on the Bogota FAQ board, my lady friend and I went on a coffee tasting tour. We ended up at Amo Perfecto, Azahar and Cafe Cultor. I'm not a coffee snob but wanted to get a feel for the coffee in Colombia. I was actually able to enjoy it with milk, cream or sugar. After our mini tour, I told her we would meet for dinner because I had some business I had to finish. I just wanted to go dip into some other pussy because I knew she would be with me for the remainder of the day and night if I didn't give myself a break. I want back to the apartment and relaxed a little and then walked down to Sante Fe. Typical Friday night. Busy as hell. Especially Troya. You couldn't move in there. So many dudes to girls I walked through and didn't opt to stay. I went to atunes, paisa, Venus and Fiebre. Each has their own vibe. Atunes had more girls than guys but nothing I liked. Venus was also extremely busy but the girls look so young. Maybe it is very young looking crowd in there. I also went into the new club Eiffel. There was three girls and one guy. And the club lion around the corner is never packed even though it has my favorite layout of all the clubs. I decided on Fiebre and wasted no more time because of my dinner date. I settled on girl I seen dancing yesterday and has a nice shaped ass. She seems disinterested being there yesterday and it as the same today. I found her sitting on the stage texting no paying attention to anyone. I went up to her and she lit up like no one talks to her or something. 24 year old from Maracaibo Venezuela. I have to get out there. We settled on 60 k for 30 minutes. Like I said before I never really ask for BBBJ but she sucked me off anyway. I let her do it for a little and then I put her in quatro and pounded away. Very wet with natural moans which I thoroughly enjoyed. Put me in a good mood and it seem to put her in one two because she couldn't stop smiling and I didn't see her smile once yesterday. Walk back to the apartment, showered and got ready for the dinner date. It's much better to listen to a female when you have an unload dick LOL. So, the dinner went well. Came back to the apartment. Smashed my 20 year old student with enormous breast and very good pussy. I always try to get some non pro pussy on my travels because I usually find the sex to be much better. But she stayed the night and I just woke up and have to get ready for my flight to Medellin. Thanks for always being great Bogota.

Routard
06-23-18, 18:04
Uber is the way to go.Uber is just another option beside the yellow cabs. Pro for Uber is that you can pay with Credit card through the app. Another pro for Uber is when you need to go in the suburb of Bogota like Chia for example. Regular cab is not allowed and has to make a paperwork before leaving Bogota while Uber is free. Another pro for Uber is that if you lost something durying the ride, you can contact again the driver through the app. If you arrive at airport, Uber is not a good idea as it's hard for him to meet you discretely as taxis who have waited for hours might beat him up. Unlike what most say on the board, Uber is NOT cheaper than taxi, it even becomes much more expensive durying peak hours. It's just that Uber cannot scam on pricing like taxis sometimes do with tourists. The later will not be possible anymore very soon as they are implementing new taxi meters where users agree on price before starting the ride.

Global00
06-23-18, 20:29
Nice info. You are right. The convenience of using your card makes it easier for me. The new law should be very helpful to avoid being cheated. It would be much more efficient to see a cab he tells me the fair price and we are off. Thanks for the Info.


Uber is just another option beside the yellow cabs. Pro for Uber is that you can pay with Credit card through the app. Another pro for Uber is when you need to go in the suburb of Bogota like Chia for example. Regular cab is not allowed and has to make a paperwork before leaving Bogota while Uber is free. Another pro for Uber is that if you lost something durying the ride, you can contact again the driver through the app. If you arrive at airport, Uber is not a good idea as it's hard for him to meet you discretely as taxis who have waited for hours might beat him up. Unlike what most say on the board, Uber is NOT cheaper than taxi, it even becomes much more expensive durying peak hours. It's just that Uber cannot scam on pricing like taxis sometimes do with tourists. The later will not be possible anymore very soon as they are implementing new taxi meters where users agree on price before starting the ride.

MjTravelLove
06-23-18, 22:01
After going to a few places Punting George mentioned on the Bogota FAQ board, my lady friend and I went on a coffee tasting tour. We ended up at Amo Perfecto, Azahar and Cafe Cultor. I'm not a coffee snob but wanted to get a feel for the coffee in Colombia. I was actually able to enjoy it with milk, cream or sugar. After our mini tour, I told her we would meet for dinner because I had some business I had to finish. I just wanted to go dip into some other pussy because I knew she would be with me for the remainder of the day and night if I didn't give myself a break. I want back to the apartment and relaxed a little and then walked down to Sante Fe. Typical Friday night. Busy as hell. Especially Troya. You couldn't move in there. So many dudes to girls I walked through and didn't opt to stay. I went to atunes, paisa, Venus and Fiebre. Each has their own vibe. Atunes had more girls than guys but nothing I liked. Venus was also extremely busy but the girls look so young. Maybe it is very young looking crowd in there. I also went into the new club Eiffel. There was three girls and one guy. And the club lion around the corner is never packed even though it has my favorite layout of all the clubs. I decided on Fiebre and wasted no more time because of my dinner date. I settled on girl I seen dancing yesterday and has a nice shaped ass. She seems disinterested being there yesterday and it as the same today. I found her sitting on the stage texting no paying attention to anyone. I went up to her and she lit up like no one talks to her or something. 24 year old from Maracaibo Venezuela. I have to get out there. We settled on 60 k for 30 minutes. Like I said before I never really ask for BBBJ but she sucked me off anyway. I let her do it for a little and then I put her in quatro and pounded away. Very wet with natural moans which I thoroughly enjoyed. Put me in a good mood and it seem to put her in one two because she couldn't stop smiling and I didn't see her smile once yesterday. Walk back to the apartment, showered and got ready for the dinner date. It's much better to listen to a female when you have an unload dick LOL. So, the dinner went well. Came back to the apartment. Smashed my 20 year old student with enormous breast and very good pussy. I always try to get some non pro pussy on my travels because I usually find the sex to be much better. But she stayed the night and I just woke up and have to get ready for my flight to Medellin. Thanks for always being great Bogota.Sounds like a great time!

Speaking of non-pros, what would you say are the best places to pick up non-pros? Somebody mentioned a gringo night at one bar. Any thoughts on that or anything else?

Thanks!

MjT.

Eszpresszo
06-23-18, 22:04
Fair enough, apart from the backhanded tone. I ahve seen the map many times. I see hundreds of establishments, obviously. But people only report on Santa Fe. Some say it's because it is the best option, not just the cheapest.

Might I ask what your suggestions are in terms of places to visit?

MjT.I'm also doing a bit of research in preparation for a trip to Bogota, and I swear there has been mention of at least two different neighborhoods outside of Santa Fe on the last several pages. I read a post by Routard where he discussed in great detail, a fourth red light district, as well. Others have been chiming in on where they like to go. Why aren't you getting that? Are you reading a different ISG than I am getting?

Indeed you must have been "scouring" the forum instead of reading it. Mongering is just like everything else in life in one universal aspect: the more you put into it, the more you get out of it.

Global00
06-23-18, 23:50
Most of my most successful non-pros came from online dating sites like latinamericancupid, tinder and Badoo. I would say the most successful out of those has been latinamericancupid. I try to establish a relationship before I even get there so they are comfortable with the idea of me and it helps me set expectations. If you are going to do on the ground work, I would say malls and shopping centers for day time and bars and night clubs for the night time. In night clubs, people tend to cohabitate in their own like cliques though. There is herely alot of activity or movement of women in those places, I would say it gives you a higher chance at success. Speaking Spanish will be crucial though. In my experience Latin women are stimulated thorough their ears. They love to converse. If you can do that in Spanish, you will have a higher chance of success. Colombians are generally kind people and the women are approachable. Even if they are not interested, they are usually kind and respectful to let you know they are not interested. Just keep trying and see what happens.


Sounds like a great time!

Speaking of non-pros, what would you say are the best places to pick up non-pros? Somebody mentioned a gringo night at one bar. Any thoughts on that or anything else?

Thanks!

MjT.

MjTravelLove
06-24-18, 04:02
Most of my most successful non-pros came from online dating sites like latinamericancupid, tinder and Badoo. I would say the most successful out of those has been latinamericancupid. I try to establish a relationship before I even get there so they are comfortable with the idea of me and it helps me set expectations. If you are going to do on the ground work, I would say malls and shopping centers for day time and bars and night clubs for the night time. In night clubs, people tend to cohabitate in their own like cliques though. There is herely alot of activity or movement of women in those places, I would say it gives you a higher chance at success. Speaking Spanish will be crucial though. In my experience Latin women are stimulated thorough their ears. They love to converse. If you can do that in Spanish, you will have a higher chance of success. Colombians are generally kind people and the women are approachable. Even if they are not interested, they are usually kind and respectful to let you know they are not interested. Just keep trying and see what happens.Sounds great, thanks as always! I'll report back during and or after my time in the city. I have used Cupid Colombia and met some ladies on there -- some P2 P and others seemingly non-pros. Some look very sexy, but I hope the pictures are the real deal. All of them were willing to share multiple, extra pics via whatsapp, so I have some faith they are honest (as where I do not with the escort sites).

I speak spanish very well, so no worries there.

MjTravelLove
06-24-18, 04:20
I'm also doing a bit of research in preparation for a trip to Bogota, and I swear there has been mention of at least two different neighborhoods outside of Santa Fe on the last several pages. I read a post by Routard where he discussed in great detail, a fourth red light district, as well. Others have been chiming in on where they like to go. Why aren't you getting that? Are you reading a different ISG than I am getting?

Indeed you must have been "scouring" the forum instead of reading it. Mongering is just like everything else in life in one universal aspect: the more you put into it, the more you get out of it.For the wonderful contribution.

MjTravelLove
06-24-18, 04:52
"Scour" and "search" are two different things. When you "search" you just look for something and you don't bother with other methods. When you "scour" -when it's the internet, you find out that there are other explorers and other search engines and go even in the DEEP WEB.

When you are trying to find or "search: your room, you just look around then ask mom, but when your "scour" you will turn your room upside down and look in the other rooms as well.

JjBee62
06-24-18, 12:59
"Scour" and "search" are two different things. When you "search" you just look for something and you don't bother with other methods. When you "scour" -when it's the internet, you find out that there are other explorers and other search engines and go even in the DEEP WEB.

When you are trying to find or "search: your room, you just look around then ask mom, but when your "scour" you will turn your room upside down and look in the other rooms as well.Language lessons always go wrong. For example: Trying to find my room is different from trying to search my room. In either case, asking mom is not going to help. However, mom was truly an expert at scouring.

You're probably better off just dropping it, since your original post said you scoured this forum. That excludes other search engines and the deep (or DEEP) web. If the information you are looking for is easily located on this forum, which it is, you didn't search or scour, although you may have asked your mom.

My "backhanded tone" (another mistake as it was flippant) included all the information you need to search (or scour) this forum for the knowledge you seek. Once again:

Look in the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread. Find the link for Routard's magnum opus on Bogota. You won't have to search or scour, as it's the second post you'll find. Then go to the "Bogota Lists" thread. You will need to search there, or get mom to do it. You won't need to search far. On page 2 World Travel 69 offers a fellow scourer a hint on where to find links to his maps. There are 3 maps, so you're looking for 3 links. I'll even make it easier. Search that thread for "Kansas".

Routard and Woodman09 are 2 of the best sources of information on Bogota. My contributions are few there. I can't give you better recommendations than those two. However, once you find the Bogota maps here's some general information that may help.

Choose your place to stay with a few things in mind. Traffic in Bogota is bad. I choose places convenient to the Transmilenio to avoid traffic and minimize taxi use. I also choose a place within walking distance of my areas of interest. For me, that's between 1 and 2 miles (I walked 25 miles in Bogota one day). My areas of interest usually involve food, so I've always chosen north hotels on quiet streets.

Here's my generic advice. Figure out what you're looking for, streetwalkers, massage parlors, casas or clubs. Figure out your budget. If you don't mind spending $100 or more for each session, hit the north clubs. If you would rather spend a lot less, hit the Santa Fe clubs or streetwalkers. If your budget is somewhere in between, choose Chapinero.

Now go forth and scour!

Blade2000
06-24-18, 20:07
Hey was this shy librarian girl you described named Naomi? Did she have a white girl or euro girl type of face?

I fucked her twice on my last trip about 6 months ago. The first time was great. The second was a complete waste of time. I paid 60 k each time at Antony's bar where she was working (near Fiebre).Yes I think it was. She looks white and stands out from all the girls at Atones. She is really the only hot one in there, very small tits. Sex wasn't that great so I didn't repeat. But now I'm thinking I should have done another session with her in doggy while having her talking dirty in English.

Also wan't mention a bad experience I had on my last day. Pulled a street girl hanging out near one of the hotels across from La Piscina. She was small and cute from far away, but when I got closer, she was wearing some very ragged, worn out clothes. She quoted 30 K COP, but it turns out that was just for her and I needed an extra 20 K for the room. Ok no problem. In the room she told me to go wash up, but I was peaking my head out the door every couple seconds. I could see she was close to where my pants were and going for my wallet.

On the bed, she started a BBBJ, but I could see that with her free hand she was reaching to where my pants were. I made the suggestion that I wanted to get a condom from my pants as an excuse to get them away from her, which I did. I was of course totally limp through the BBBJ, since I knew she was trying to rob me. About 10 minutes into it she yells "policizia, polizia! I knew this was BS as she was trying to get me to panic and take my eyes of my wallet for a few seconds. At that point I start putting my pants on and she now says the police are gone and I can get naked and lie down again. I say no thanks and keep putting my clothes one.

At that point she slaps me in the face as hard as her 80 pound body could. Didn't bother me and I kept putting my clothes on. Then she realized the games over so starts reaching into my pockets to grab my wallet or phone but fails. At that point I grab her by the arm and throw her out the door. I start saying "robaro, robaro" and made a bit of a scene on the street. I was still barefoot and shirtless. At this point the girl ran away and several girls and the mamasan that sold the room came to ask what was wrong.

Nothing ending up being stolen and no real harm was done. But I think I'm done with street girls. Last year I was also robbed by a street girl where she asked me to put my clothes on hooks next to the door. I'm pretty sure during the session, someone grabbed my wallet and took maybe seven 50 K COP notes, since there was only one left in my wallet after the session. Not 100% sure I was robbed, but I think so.

I was a bit angry after the recent incident, but after I reflect back, the girl is probably desperate for money as is almost everyone else in the area. Getting my wallet stolen wouldn't have been a huge deal for me as there's only cash there, no credit cards or anything else. It would just have been a wasted day since there's no ATMs open at night time as far as I'm aware (I do keep a couple 50 K notes in a secret underwear pocket, but that's not for mongering, it's for taxi fare in case I get robbed). I far larger danger would have been if I accidentally hurt her after she got violent with me. Not much chance of that as I have pretty good control. But still I don't want to deal with this type of issue again. Never had an issue with theft or anything else inside the clubs.

That single bad incident aside, I love COLOMBIA and can't wait to go back again.

MjTravelLove
06-25-18, 05:00
Language lessons always go wrong. For example: Trying to find my room is different from trying to search my room. In either case, asking mom is not going to help. However, mom was truly an expert at scouring.

You're probably better off just dropping it, since your original post said you scoured this forum. That excludes other search engines and the deep (or DEEP) web. If the information you are looking for is easily located on this forum, which it is, you didn't search or scour, although you may have asked your mom.

My "backhanded tone" (another mistake as it was flippant) included all the information you need to search (or scour) this forum for the knowledge you seek. Once again:

Look in the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread. Find the link for Routard's magnum opus on Bogota. You won't have to search or scour, as it's the second post you'll find. Then go to the "Bogota Lists" thread. You will need to search there, or get mom to do it. You won't need to search far. On page 2 World Travel 69 offers a fellow scourer a hint on where to find links to his maps. There are 3 maps, so you're looking for 3 links. I'll even make it easier. Search that thread for "Kansas".

Routard and Woodman09 are 2 of the best sources of information on Bogota. My contributions are few there. I can't give you better recommendations than those two. However, once you find the Bogota maps here's some general information that may help.

Choose your place to stay with a few things in mind. Traffic in Bogota is bad. I choose places convenient to the Transmilenio to avoid traffic and minimize taxi use. I also choose a place within walking distance of my areas of interest. For me, that's between 1 and 2 miles (I walked 25 miles in Bogota one day). My areas of interest usually involve food, so I've always chosen north hotels on quiet streets.

Here's my generic advice. Figure out what you're looking for, streetwalkers, massage parlors, casas or clubs. Figure out your budget. If you don't mind spending $100 or more for each session, hit the north clubs. If you would rather spend a lot less, hit the Santa Fe clubs or streetwalkers. If your budget is somewhere in between, choose Chapinero.

Now go forth and scour!Dear Professor,

It's true, you were not backhanded. You are just extremely arrogant. It gets more to your core than being flippant toward a single word that had no impact on your life.

The info I am looking for is not easily located on this forum. Your directions are not really helpful, just general and obvious.

There ratio of messages about non SF locations: SF locations is extremely imbalanced, at best. Maybe that has to do with price. Fine. But it's a fact.

Are there comments about other places? Yes. Are they very helpful, like the detailed SF reports of late? No.

And if you search too far back in the forum, the info is dated. Assuming your expertise is not limited to linguistics, this should be readily apparent to you.

You're right on one note: Woodman and Routard are cordial and extremely helpful. And the SF reports are excellent. Apart from that, I see one or two recent reports on the rest of the city, and some much older ones that may or may not be relevant.

Bango Cheito
06-25-18, 05:05
Most of my most successful non-pros came from online dating sites like latinamericancupid, tinder and Badoo. I would say the most successful out of those has been latinamericancupid. I try to establish a relationship before I even get there so they are comfortable with the idea of me and it helps me set expectations. If you are going to do on the ground work, I would say malls and shopping centers for day time and bars and night clubs for the night time. In night clubs, people tend to cohabitate in their own like cliques though. There is herely alot of activity or movement of women in those places, I would say it gives you a higher chance at success. Speaking Spanish will be crucial though. In my experience Latin women are stimulated thorough their ears. They love to converse. If you can do that in Spanish, you will have a higher chance of success. Colombians are generally kind people and the women are approachable. Even if they are not interested, they are usually kind and respectful to let you know they are not interested. Just keep trying and see what happens.This is Gringo Tuesdays. It's apparently very easy to get laid at these places.

Bango Cheito
06-25-18, 05:06
Uber is just another option beside the yellow cabs. Pro for Uber is that you can pay with Credit card through the app. Another pro for Uber is when you need to go in the suburb of Bogota like Chia for example. Regular cab is not allowed and has to make a paperwork before leaving Bogota while Uber is free. Another pro for Uber is that if you lost something durying the ride, you can contact again the driver through the app. If you arrive at airport, Uber is not a good idea as it's hard for him to meet you discretely as taxis who have waited for hours might beat him up. Unlike what most say on the board, Uber is NOT cheaper than taxi, it even becomes much more expensive durying peak hours. It's just that Uber cannot scam on pricing like taxis sometimes do with tourists. The later will not be possible anymore very soon as they are implementing new taxi meters where users agree on price before starting the ride.I find Uber is usually a better option, but it depends.

There is also the Tappsi app for ordering a yellow cab through the app, which allows you to recover lost items and pay by card under some circumstances.

Gropai
06-25-18, 09:36
Three of us went to Venezuela. Our cards got used a lot. Mine came to US $5000. I used mine at 4-5 star hotels and two gift shops. They used mine at casinos, bars, car parts, grocery stores and Hamburger places.

Always use cash if you can.And how did you end up spending so much? Did somebody clone your card and spend that much money?

Gropai
06-25-18, 16:29
I want to try these two places and I hear they are pretty expensive. How much do they charge for a 1 hour session exactly? And also, is it true that to make a reservation at Flirt I need to prepay some money?

Blade2000
06-26-18, 00:39
I want to try these two places and I hear they are pretty expensive. How much do they charge for a 1 hour session exactly? And also, is it true that to make a reservation at Flirt I need to prepay some money?I don't know about Loutron, but I've been to Flirt hotel before. You don't need to prepay anything at reservation time, but you do need to make a reservation. But if you do go, prepare to pull. It's not like a casa where if you don't see anything you like, you can just leave. You could leave, but it would be awkward. They line up about 10 girls for you and they introduce themselves casa style and you pick. When I went, the girls were in the 8-9 hotness range. Similar to Lidos.

The girls cost 600 K COP for half hour or 800 K COP for one hour. You will also be expected to buy her a drink a chat a while before the session. Drinks are generally expensive, but there are some cheap ones like a vodka mixer. So you are basically paying US prices but with a much hotter girl than you could get in the US. I went with the 30 minute session and the sex was great.

You could get with 10 girls in Santa Fe for the price of one at Flirt, but your pretty much guaranteed a model looking girl at Flirt.

They take both cash or credit card, but charge a 10% fee on the credit card. I would carry both just in case. You pay afterwards.

When I called to make a reservation. I read a message in Spanish that I got from google translate. The guy could tell I didn't know Spanish, so hadn't me over to a guy who did. Not sure the English speaker will be available when you call.

Ho Lover1
06-26-18, 01:49
. It would just have been a wasted day since there's no ATMs open at night time as far as I'm aware (I do keep a couple 50 K notes in a secret underwear pocket, but that's not for mongering, it's for taxi fare in case I get robbed). I far larger danger would have been if I accidentally hurt her after she got violent with me. Not much chance of that as I have pretty good control. But still I don't want to deal with this type of issue again. Never had an issue with theft or anything else inside the clubs..Where can you buy this underwear with the secret pocket?

Blade2000
06-26-18, 02:44
Where can you buy this underwear with the secret pocket?They are called iHeartRaves and you can find them on amazon, boxer brief underwear.

Gropai
06-26-18, 04:35
The girls cost 600 K COP for half hour or 800 K COP for one hour. You will also be expected to buy her a drink a chat a while before the session. Drinks are generally expensive, but there are some cheap ones like a vodka mixer. So you are basically paying US prices but with a much hotter girl than you could get in the US. I went with the 30 minute session and the sex was great.

You could get with 10 girls in Santa Fe for the price of one at Flirt, but your pretty much guaranteed a model looking girl at Flirt.Thank you very much for your detailed information. Well, I guess you get what you pay for.

Pokeris
06-26-18, 06:34
You can find them on amazon, ebay or just google it: underwear with secret pocket.

Turgid
06-26-18, 20:35
...................At that point she slaps me in the face as hard as her 80 pound body could. Didn't bother me and I kept putting my clothes on. Then she realized the games over so starts reaching into my pockets to grab my wallet or phone but fails. At that point I grab her by the arm and throw her out the door. I start saying "robaro, robaro" and made a bit of a scene on the street. I was still barefoot and shirtless. At this point the girl ran away and several girls and the mamasan that sold the room came to ask what was wrong.

Nothing ending up being stolen and no real harm was done. .......In my 45 years of mongering in brothels, casas, with street girls and what not, only once did a prostitute try to rob me and that was many years ago in a casa in Medellin. We had done the deed and I was showering. Mid shower, on a strange whim, I got out of the shower dripping wet to look at my clothes and there she was riffling through my trousers; she screamed when she saw me. She did not say anything but looked very concerned when I approached the papasan. I paid him, said nothing and left. Its the only time I did that and have never been robbed (knock wood).
On another note, in Medellin, I was sitting on a park bench eating snacks from a receptacle I carry with me, a druggie sits next to me and asks for some of my snacks, I offer her but she pulls out a plastic bag where I expected her to cup her hands, I then refuse, she socks me on the face and takes off. She actually packed quite a punch.
Regarding your girl it's a pity that she did not get at least a 10 K for the BBBJ, these girls lead a hard life.

Eszpresszo
06-26-18, 22:57
You can find them on amazon, ebay or just google it: underwear with secret pocket.Or alternately, you can hide some money under the insoles of your shoes. I did that last time in Medellin, when I realized there was no safe in my room. If you use aftermarket cushioning insoles, (as I do when I travel abroad and know I will be walking a lot) it won't require any special garments in awkward places. You can also access the money more discretely under the table than you can reaching down into your pants.

Xpartan
06-27-18, 03:27
One reason I definitely was using the escorts like crazy to come to my place when I went!! Hopefully you got your hands on some ibuprofen as that can take the edge off a bit. And one of the most helpful is no walking basically and limited moving, but sounds like you were venturing out which didn't help (I did the same).

Hope you made out alright but possible you finally felt a bit better right as you're leaving or once you land at your next destination. Bummer.Thanks! Unfortunately, I only recovered when I landed back home. It really was a bummer.


Sorry to hear about your problem with altitude sickness. I might be going to Bogota as early as Labor Day, and I am naturally concerned how altitude sickness can mess up my trip. However, I am thinking some of us might not have an issue with it. I spent a few nights in Mexico City with no problems. I just found out its up at 7300 feet, something I had not known before. I have also been to Taos, NM (7000 feet) numerous times without an issue other than a shortness of breath when walking up some steep stairs. I wonder what that extra 1500 feet in Bogota will do to me.

One source I found online states that "in Bogota only a small number of people suffer from altitude sickness after their ascent into the city the likelihood is increased with a rapid ascent to a high altitude. Many people don't suffer, especially when arriving by plane as they land from a higher altitude. " Hmmm, arriving by plane. Apparently diet can be an issue, too - "Eating leafy greens can help to prevent altitude sickness due to their high levels of salicylic acid. These acids act as an anti-inflammatory and can help thin the blood, allowing the oxygenated blood to travel to all corners of the body. Taking on carbohydrates can prevent altitude sickness as their digestion helps to generate glycolysis (carbohydrate storage), which releases energy at a faster rate. " So eat your salad! Though as I recall from my visit to Medellin, avoiding carbs when eating out is the real problem in Colombia. A veteran traveler and tour guide had this to say "A better cure is a sweet herbal infusions or aromatica as it is called locally. Some swear by coca tea, but actually any warm sugary fluid will pick you up as it is the glucose which alleviates the symptoms. I found Coca Cola, long recognized as the best hangover cure, is almost miraculous for altitude with its rich mix of caffeine and sugar. " Note to self, indulge in Coca Cola. The whole article is here:

https://thecitypaperbogota.com/bogota/why-bogota-might-be-your-altitude-problem/12962

Now would someone try and clarify the climate in Bogota? What I read are a lot of contradictions. I keep seeing Bogota referred to as "cold" or chilly" (including the article above), with highs in the mid-60's and lows in the upper 40's year around. Though I come from a warm climate with a hot summer, I don't find that to be "cold". In fact, by Labor Day, 50 degrees Fahrenheit will sound great. I also understand that Bogota can be damp or foggy, and we know how humidity enhances the cold. Yet other travel related sources refer to it as being dry due to its altitude, admonishing the visitor to hydrate by drinking more water. I visualize wearing a light jacket or a blazer, long sleeve shirt with jeans and regular leather shoes. But, when I look around Bogota using Google Street View, I see a lot of guys in their shirtsleeves. I curious what those who have visited have to say about that.Eszpresszo, Other than the altitude, I loved everything about Bogota. It's my kind of city -- good restaurants, historic downtown, sightseeing options, and beautiful, beautiful women. I thought the climate was wonderful during my visit -- in the mid to high 60-s, with some sunlight, but not lots of it, it was a huge welcome after scorchingly-hot Cartagena.

Balboa
06-27-18, 19:04
Thank you very much for your detailed information. Well, I guess you get what you pay for.No, not really when it comes to PFP, and often times its just the opposite.

BlueChange
06-28-18, 01:19
I'm switching it up and going to Bogota. What can I expect different? What is the same? Plus, minus. Tell me guys.

Mr Enternational
06-28-18, 04:13
I'm switching it up and going to Bogota. What can I expect different? What is the same? Plus, minus. Tell me guys.The weather is different. And all the hoes in Bogota say that they are from Medellin. In Medellin where do they say they are from?

Woodman09
06-28-18, 06:16
Or alternately, you can hide some money under the insoles of your shoes. I did that last time in Medellin, when I realized there was no safe in my room. If you use aftermarket cushioning insoles, (as I do when I travel abroad and know I will be walking a lot) it won't require any special garments in awkward places. You can also access the money more discretely under the table than you can reaching down into your pants.I use a money belt, the kind with that actually is a real belt- I have carried $3500 in 100's before. Also I had zippered pockets put into my hoodies. I want to have another one put in the back area so it would be much more unexpected.

Woodman09
06-28-18, 06:27
Fiebre is closed for remodeling. Eiffel is a new club. Everything is fresh and new. Lotsa of Really hot girls from Fiebre last night, went with a Super hot Paisa looked like a debutante, 8-9 in looks and attitude, was 70 mil.

Walked around hot cuties to be had in the streets, a few clubs were closed.

Blade2000
06-28-18, 11:31
Thanks! Unfortunately, I only recovered when I landed back home. It really was a bummer.

Eszpresszo, Other than the altitude, I loved everything about Bogota. It's my kind of city -- good restaurants, historic downtown, sightseeing options, and beautiful, beautiful women. I thought the climate was wonderful during my visit -- in the mid to high 60-s, with some sunlight, but not lots of it, it was a huge welcome after scorchingly-hot Cartagena.I have a different issue with Bogota. I feel fine when I'm there, but I'm extremely fatigued for about a week after I return back to the low elevation in the US. Nearly useless at work because I'm so tired. I'm guessing it's the change in elevation, but would have to go to another high elevation place to confirm for certain.

Eszpresszo
06-29-18, 01:52
I use a money belt, the kind with that actually is a real belt- I have carried $3500 in 100's before. Also I had zippered pockets put into my hoodies. I want to have another one put in the back area so it would be much more unexpected.I have also had a few money belts, though neither of them lasted long in everyday use. Maybe I bought the wrong ones. However, I will be going "beltless" more and more, now that I have discovered that stylish, elastic waistband pants that are neither athletic apparel nor apparel for old men, actually do exist. I got a pair to wear when traveling, so I don't have to take off my belt at TSA screenings. It occurred to me how fast and easy it is, to get your pants on and off, when you don't have to unbuckle and unzip you pants. That is great in short-time scenarios and places where you don't want to linger. Combine with a pullover shirt like a tee or a polo and you can in and out of your clothes in a flash.

I like your idea of getting hidden pockets sewn into your clothes. I have also thought about approaching my preferred Vietnamese seamstress about sewing small pocket inside the lower leg of my pants. Somehow, I have this notion that she would be very familiar with such alterations, already.

Xpartan
06-29-18, 05:21
I have a different issue with Bogota. I feel fine when I'm there, but I'm extremely fatigued for about a week after I return back to the low elevation in the US. Nearly useless at work because I'm so tired. I'm guessing it's the change in elevation, but would have to go to another high elevation place to confirm for certain.It's amazing how this thing hits everyone differently. I felt revived when I landed back home. No fatigue and a lot of energy. I keep reading about the things I missed in Bogota, and I think I'm going to try it again in a few months. Perhaps, take some pills first, for a week or two.

MjTravelLove
06-29-18, 06:07
Fiebre is closed for remodeling. Eiffel is a new club. Everything is fresh and new. Lotsa of Really hot girls from Fiebre last night, went with a Super hot Paisa looked like a debutante, 8-9 in looks and attitude, was 70 mil.

Walked around hot cuties to be had in the streets, a few clubs were closed.Hi Woodman, thanks for tis info. Any idea how long Fiebre is closed?

Also, 70 mil for how long and what services? I'm trying to sort out the fairest price for 30 min incl BBBJ and good covered sex.

And how much for that for an hour.

Oh, and tongue kissing is obligatory, otherwise it feel too phony.

Any ideas given these standards?

THANKS, mate.

MjTravelLove
06-29-18, 06:11
Have had some nice communication with gorgeous young ladies on Colombia Cupid. Some pros, some semi-pros and some non-pros.

The what, who looks gorgeous and sent numerous pics on whatsapp, charges around 100 K per hour -- anything but anal. BBBJ, kissing etc are all on the menu.

Will let everybody know if it is worthwhile. It is a lot to spend, but she seems like gorgeous GFE who can be had for at least 3 hours.

Blade2000
06-30-18, 02:09
Have had some nice communication with gorgeous young ladies on Colombia Cupid. Some pros, some semi-pros and some non-pros.

The what, who looks gorgeous and sent numerous pics on whatsapp, charges around 100 K per hour -- anything but anal. BBBJ, kissing etc are all on the menu.

Will let everybody know if it is worthwhile. It is a lot to spend, but she seems like gorgeous GFE who can be had for at least 3 hours.Yeah let us know. I recently got ripped off by one of the escort site with fake pics. I'm hoping it's more difficult to post fake pics on sites like Colombian cupid. Or if she shows up as someone else, you don't have to pay.

Woodman09
06-30-18, 06:41
Hi Woodman, thanks for tis info. Any idea how long Fiebre is closed?

Also, 70 mil for how long and what services? I'm trying to sort out the fairest price for 30 min incl BBBJ and good covered sex.

And how much for that for an hour.

Oh, and tongue kissing is obligatory, otherwise it feel too phony.

Any ideas given these standards?

THANKS, mate.Hey Now. That was 70 mil for a standard rato (15-20 min). Many girls won't kiss and I just kissed her a bit. Usually that's the kind of thing that happens with repeat sessions or they let you. I always ask while I'm flirting with them just to watch their reaction.

Did not get BBBJ either. But it was still good. She seemed to enjoy. I always ask about BBBJ too.

Keep in mind sometimes girls will say yes and then when you get in the room they won't-- What are you going to do? Sometimes you get a girl playing games too. Like trying to run out the clock so you have to pay more. This has happened to me 2-3 times over the years. I never go for it. I just move on. Sometimes you get a girl that just makes it hard to fuck and you really can't do anything, unless you want to risk going to jail. It's not worth the $15-$20.

To avoid all this I always am checking the girls behavior before and will break off if my instinct say to. I always will flirt and develop a rapport and see how the the girl reacts to asking about a BBBJ and kissing. I'm touching them checking if they're natural and I want to see their reaction. In the clubs you can get a dance for $3-$4 so that's another way to know. Also you can just sit with girls and get to know them for a few minutes.

30 min is like a double session, you would have to negotiate it. What I would do is go for un rato and if it's going so good, go for a double upgrade in the room- (usually she will be able to tell the maid). And if the chemistry is there get her number.

I was going to go back last night but I got sidetracked walking through Santa Fe South. I ran into a 19 yo Hottie and really hit it of with her. It was a GFE Quickie! Pulling her hair making her scream- BBBJ! I ended up hitting that twice-.

Cost was about $28 total.

I will probably see her tomorrow.

Photos attached.

Woodman09
06-30-18, 18:59
I was going to go back last night but I got sidetracked walking through Santa Fe South. I ran into a 19 yo Hottie and really hit it of with her. It was a GFE Quickie! Pulling her hair making her scream- BBBJ! I ended up hitting that twice-.

Cost was about $28 total.

I will probably see her tomorrow.

Photos attached.LOL-- my new motto. If its good. Hit it twice!

MjTravelLove
06-30-18, 22:54
Hey Now. That was 70 mil for a standard rato (15-20 min). Many girls won't kiss and I just kissed her a bit. Usually that's the kind of thing that happens with repeat sessions or they let you. I always ask while I'm flirting with them just to watch their reaction.

Did not get BBBJ either. But it was still good. She seemed to enjoy. I always ask about BBBJ too.

Keep in mind sometimes girls will say yes and then when you get in the room they won't-- What are you going to do? Sometimes you get a girl playing games too. Like trying to run out the clock so you have to pay more. This has happened to me 2-3 times over the years. I never go for it. I just move on. Sometimes you get a girl that just makes it hard to fuck and you really can't do anything, unless you want to risk going to jail. It's not worth the $15-$20.

To avoid all this I always am checking the girls behavior before and will break off if my instinct say to. I always will flirt and develop a rapport and see how the the girl reacts to asking about a BBBJ and kissing. I'm touching them checking if they're natural and I want to see their reaction. In the clubs you can get a dance for $3-$4 so that's another way to know. Also you can just sit with girls and get to know them for a few minutes.

30 min is like a double session, you would have to negotiate it. What I would do is go for un rato and if it's going so good, go for a double upgrade in the room- (usually she will be able to tell the maid). And if the chemistry is there get her number.

I was going to go back last night but I got sidetracked walking through Santa Fe South. I ran into a 19 yo Hottie and really hit it of with her. It was a GFE Quickie! Pulling her hair making her scream- BBBJ! I ended up hitting that twice-.

Cost was about $28 total.

I will probably see her tomorrow.

Photos attached.Thanks as always. She is SUPER sexy, in my opinion. What would it take to convince you to share her info? PM me, I'll PM you.

MjTravelLove
06-30-18, 23:02
Yeah let us know. I recently got ripped off by one of the escort site with fake pics. I'm hoping it's more difficult to post fake pics on sites like Colombian cupid. Or if she shows up as someone else, you don't have to pay.It was INCREDIBLE. One of th better P2 P experiences I have had. Not a 10, but spoer sexy nonetheless, maybe an 8. GFE. Down for whatever apart from anal.

MjTravelLove
07-02-18, 02:04
Yeah let us know. I recently got ripped off by one of the escort site with fake pics. I'm hoping it's more difficult to post fake pics on sites like Colombian cupid. Or if she shows up as someone else, you don't have to pay.Also only contact girls with at least a few pics and who have been active recently. You can search for all of these things. It's worth paying for the site, because I have met hot pros AND non-pros.

Ask for their whatsapp in the FIRST message, and once connected, ask for more pic -- nicely, of course.

The more pics, the better idea you have if she is legit. Not a guarantee, but if they can't give you pics or won't give them you, it's a good sign they are BS.

Maria Camila was gorgeous, fun and incredible where it matters most. The girls on cupid, the pros, charge more than girl in SF for a rato (20 minutes). But for 100 USD to stay and party all night like never before, with no extras for anything, including CIM, BBJ etc.

Only thing off limits is anal, which is fine for me.

There was no "pro" about her. She fucked and acted like an amazing GF.

LivingFossil
07-04-18, 13:17
Fellow mongers,

What place has the cheapest 9 and 10's to take back home for all night and how much will this cost?

I know they will be expensive but I am willing to spoil myself just one night.

What are the hottest to me. Under 30, taller, curvy, small waist. I speak very good Spanish which I think will help.

I leave next week for 10 days and promise a good report!

Muchas gracias amigos.

Sangnyc21
07-05-18, 01:11
Fellow mongers,

What place has the cheapest 9 and 10's to take back home for all night and how much will this cost?

I know they will be expensive but I am willing to spoil myself just one night.

What are the hottest to me. Under 30, taller, curvy, small waist. I speak very good Spanish which I think will help.

I leave next week for 10 days and promise a good report!

Muchas gracias amigos.It's simple. Lidos. All the high end clubs have better looking girls. It really is as simple as that. I have been to Bogota twice in the past 3 months and been all over from Santa Fe to massage parlors and middle end like PH and 49. Lidos by far hands down has the hottest girls.

I am 40 and pull hot girls without mongering. Just to give you an idea of what kind of eyes I have when it comes to judging them.

Blade2000
07-06-18, 03:47
Fellow mongers,

What place has the cheapest 9 and 10's to take back home for all night and how much will this cost?I'll second what Sangnyc said. Lidos has the hottest girls, most are in the 8-9 range when I've gone. There are usually lots of girls in there and very few guys as few people can afford this place. I think last time I went there were 60 or 70 girls. The scumbag waiter will rip you off on the already expensive drinks and add a 'tarifa' for himself, don't think there's anyway around it.

Lidos is located a few blocks west of El Retiro area. Casa Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa is close by and a good place to stay if you have the funds. There is a 180 K COP exit fee to take a girl out. The one time a took a girl she quoted 500 K COP for two hours and I bargained down to 450 K COP. She asked for money as soon as I got into the room and I paid. Not a great session and several services she claimed to offer were not available at the hotel room. Probably should have tried harder to pay at end of session. Still an ok session as she was an 8. 5 hot girl.

Supposedly girls have to pay 100 K COP just to get into Lidos every night. This doesn't make sense to me but I've heard it from multiple sources including the girl I was with. I've heard others mention much higher prices for TLN like 900 K COP, but that seems too high. I didn't even the check the place out when I was in Bogota a couple weeks ago as its not affordable for me.

Flirt Hotel is another high end option which I talked about a couple weeks ago. But the selection is small with 10 girls and you have to make an appointment. A girl at Flirt will cost 800 K COP for 1 hour. Girls at Flirt are also in the 8-9 range.

Sangnyc21
07-06-18, 07:08
I'll second what Sangnyc said. Lidos has the hottest girls, most are in the 8-9 range when I've gone. There are usually lots of girls in there and very few guys as few people can afford this place. I think last time I went there were 60 or 70 girls. The scumbag waiter will rip you off on the already expensive drinks and add a 'tarifa' for himself, don't think there's anyway around it.

Lidos is located a few blocks west of El Retiro area. Casa Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa is close by and a good place to stay if you have the funds. There is a 180 K COP exit fee to take a girl out. The one time a took a girl she quoted 500 K COP for two hours and I bargained down to 450 K COP. She asked for money as soon as I got into the room and I paid. Not a great session and several services she claimed to offer were not available at the hotel room. Probably should have tried harder to pay at end of session. Still an ok session as she was an 8. 5 hot girl.

Supposedly girls have to pay 100 K COP just to get into Lidos every night. This doesn't make sense to me but I've heard it from multiple sources including the girl I was with. I've heard others mention much higher prices for TLN like 900 K COP, but that seems too high. I didn't even the check the place out when I was in Bogota a couple weeks ago as its not affordable for me.

Flirt Hotel is another high end option which I talked about a couple weeks ago. But the selection is small with 10 girls and you have to make an appointment. A girl at Flirt will cost 800 K COP for 1 hour. Girls at Flirt are also in the 8-9 range.I can't see how at these prices they can stay in business. Makes no sense so many more girls as opposed to guys and they are charging 700 k for one hour lmao with the house fee is over 300 usd for one hour and it's not even guaranteed gsw service. Yea they'll have to change their ways for sure.

Woodman09
07-06-18, 16:34
I can't see how at these prices they can stay in business. Makes no sense so many more girls as opposed to guys and they are charging 700 k for one hour lmao with the house fee is over 300 usd for one hour and it's not even guaranteed gsw service. Yea they'll have to change their ways for sure.Right. And you can find just as Hot girls in Santa Fe, because many of those girls go to work there too.

Nounce
07-06-18, 19:35
Right. And you can find just as Hot girls in Santa Fe, because many of those girls go to work there too.As far as I can tell, girls in Lido just have better presentation. They are not better naked.

Sangnyc21
07-07-18, 01:32
Right. And you can find just as Hot girls in Santa Fe, because many of those girls go to work there too.While I won't disagree with that since you would know better I'm sure not all the girls work at Santa Fe.

I do disagree tho that the girls in Santa Fe are just as hot. Maybe you'll find a stunner here and there but overall I believe Lidos has the hottest girls as to where you are guaranteed to find a dime when you walk in and in Santa Fe you would have to put a lot of work on and might get disappointed.

I have been with 12 women in my 2 trips and none were from Santa Fe. I spoke to about 6-7 girls about the area and all of them tell me none of them would ever work that area. This is according to them so on my last trip I didn't even bother.

But everyone has their own preference.

Eszpresszo
07-07-18, 03:55
As far as I can tell, girls in Lido just have better presentation. They are not better naked.Having booked a ticket to BOG for a long Labor Day weekend, I thank you for that insight. That has been the case in other places I've mongered in, Pattaya being a good example.

Woodman09
07-07-18, 04:35
While I won't disagree with that since you would know better I'm sure not all the girls work at Santa Fe.

I do disagree tho that the girls in Santa Fe are just as hot. Maybe you'll find a stunner here and there but overall I believe Lidos has the hottest girls as to where you are guaranteed to find a dime when you walk in and in Santa Fe you would have to put a lot of work on and might get disappointed.

I have been with 12 women in my 2 trips and none were from Santa Fe. I spoke to about 6-7 girls about the area and all of them tell me none of them would ever work that area. This is according to them so on my last trip I didn't even bother.

But everyone has their own preference.Yeah. you were not there at the right time. And of course they told you that they don't work there Mr MoneyBags.

Woodman09
07-07-18, 17:08
I have been with 12 women in my 2 trips and none were from Santa Fe. I spoke to about 6-7 girls about the area and all of them tell me none of them would ever work that area. This is according to them so on my last trip I didn't even bother.Yeah. OK Mr MoneyBags They told you they don't work there. LOL.

Routard
07-07-18, 18:48
I have been with 12 women in my 2 trips and none were from Santa Fe. I spoke to about 6-7 girls about the area and all of them tell me none of them would ever work that area.
.Colombian girls on a 3 month contrat in Saint Martin Curacao or Aruba will all tell you it's their first time and that they would never do it in Colombia if that is what you want to believe. Girls in Northern high end clubs will tell you they would never work in Santa Fe if that is what you want to believe. Girls in Santa Fe will tell you they would never do a public strip show if that is what you want to believe. Their job is to sell you a dream, nothing wrong about it. I also believed it long time ago untill I started to know some of them personaly. Once in friendship, they don't tell bullshit anymore and tell you the whole story. Girls just rotate from one club to another to check where they can earn most. Do you really believe that the girls in Santa Fe have never heard about the Northen Clubs where they can ask 10 times more for a session? Girls are not stupid, they all went to try these clubs and management will not make any kind of selection, the more the better. Most however come back to Sante Fe as earnings are higher in Sante Fe due to quantity of sessions. That's why there is a huge rotation in the Northern Clubs and you will always see "new" girls whatever "new" means. Truth is that the hottest will do better in the Northern Club, so the better looking tend to stay more in these clubs. Environment helps also a lot that girls in Northen clubs look better than in Sante Fe. But they all rotate.

Sangnyc21
07-07-18, 21:46
Yeah. OK Mr MoneyBags They told you they don't work there. LOL.Well I never believe what a hooker tells me nor do I even care. All I'm saying is what I was told and what I saw. Dude if you can't notice a difference between the sante fe girls and the girls at Lidos maybe you haven't been there lately or you really don't put looks as a priority.

I don't have the time to be running from club to club all night.

As far as her selling me a dream? Hahaha. No I don't fall for hookers I am not from the save a hoe foundation. LOL.

Mr Enternational
07-08-18, 04:12
As far as I can tell, girls in Lido just have better presentation. They are not better naked.That is what the beauty / porn industry is about, presentation. I had a friend in Rio that used to do pornos. She said to make a movie they would have to go for 8 hours and the first 4 hours would be spent getting their hair and makeup done. I have a friend that married a famous porn star from the late 80's, early 90's. When I tell you that she looks nothing in real life as she looks in those movies and magazines. Geezus! Throw a chick in some hair, makeup, and nice clothes and there you have the difference. You can look at any of those stars before and after pictures and tell that. Don't be fooled by the glitz.

Trombone
07-10-18, 04:57
I don't think there is anything left about Bogota that has not been told here before. At the same time, I believe one of the benefits of the board is to hear various perspectives and experiences. We all come from a variety of backgrounds and may have different tastes and preferences. A girl that I may find to be a 9 or 10 might be a 5 or 6 in others' books. I wanted to make this review short and to the point, but it ended up being long. Never-the-less, I just hope it helps other like-minded members, specially first-timers to Colombia who are planning to arrange their trip.

I want also to thank everyone on the board that patiently answered all my questions, publicly and through PMs prior to my trip.

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-Background: This was my first trip to Colombia. My hobby land has mostly been Europe (specially Germany FKK clubs) and Canada.

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-Preferences: Even though short-lived and superficial, I like to build some sort of a connection with the girls. I like to know them a bit better and develop a bit of chemistry with them. That means I'm usually in seek of arrangements at least 1 HR in duration. Quickies and 20-30 min sessions do not cut it for me. I have done lots of short sessions though, to quench my urgent needs, but seldom they have created strong enough chemicals in my brain to engrave a pleasurable long-lasting memory. In my 15+ years of hobbying I have had many memorable sessions that I got to know the girl and after many years still thinking about them enables me to relive those moments. On the other hand, memories about the "wham-bam, thank you m'am" kind of sessions is just meh even though the sex was great at the time.

As for physical preferences, I'm a sucker for innocent, college girl type of look. Bodywise, slim. I'm a leg guy; boobs don't excite me much. I can't stand fake body parts, whether they are boobs, lips, butt or even nails. My ideal girl is all natural.

In my books DFK and foreplay are a must and I don't care about BJ at all. Girls have told me they have not met many guys who don't like BJ- so I'm an odd creature right there. Like many of you, I love DATY and is important part of any session for me. Sex comes in the second tier for me; If DKF and foreplay are right sex is just ice on the cake.

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-Now the trip:

Put everything in the context of me not speaking Spanish and I suck at negotiation. It probably would have been a totally different experience if I could speak the language. I used google translate app to communicate with the girls which went relatively ok for basic conversations. I probably got gringo prices a lot especially for drinks. My plan was to avoid using the rooms in the clubs and to take the girls back to my hotel, preferably for long sessions. As I mentioned above, 20-30 min sessions are not my thing.

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-Airport: Bogota has a relatively nice airport. Passport control line was insanely long upon arrival: took about 2 hrs to get through. For departure the line was probably a bit shorter; took about 30-40 minutes. Obviously, depends on your luck and what time of the day is your departure / arrival.

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-Local transportation: I had made prearrangement with a taxi. I had got his contact info through pm from one of the members here. I found the driver / wingman to be a really nice guy, honest, smart and very helpful. Rates were very reasonable for his services (a bit less than the standard rates that I have read here). He knew minimal English, but with google translation app it was super easy to communicate. If anyone interested to have his contact info pm me.

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-Hotel: I stayed at Viaggio Neuve Trez. Nice hotel in the northern zone in a very safe neighborhood. The hotel was very clean, with all the essentials. I had a room with 2 double beds, I kept one for myself and one to share with my guest (s)! Breakfast at the hotel was just ok and it was included in my room. It was a girl friendly hotel. The first night that I brought a guest the lady at the front desk told me it was 30 K extra. I reminded her that I had booked the room for 2. She then checked and apologized and said I was right. The first night that I brought a guest, I felt comfortable and the flow of registration of the guest seemed natural to me. All the subsequent nights that I was there the same lady was at the front desk. Even though she was really cool and nice with relatively good English I still felt a bit uneasy after the 3rd night coming back with a new guest every night. I guess the hotel staff are used to this, I was not. The same thing about the hotel bellman; the way he was looking at me and my guests, I bet he was thinking "you lucky bastard!"... I had read in one of the threads that the Wifi at Viaggio hotels blocks access to sex sites including this forum. I had no problem accessing them: I typically use VPN but I specially tried without my VPN and had not problem accessing these sites.

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-Club experience:
First night at Lido. Super cool and modern facility with nice lighting, excellent music and probably around 40-50 super hot girls with many of them 9-10 and model type. All nicely dressed. Really impressive. I don't think I had seen these many hot looking girls all in the same room in my entire life; the best way I can describe it is to imagine like a party before a pageant contest with all contestants flirting with you. But the good things ended right there. The quoted price was insane (with Colombia standards) like 600 to 900K per hour. Exit fee was 180 K plus 180 K of buying a drink (I bought a bottle to share with the girls so that I didn't have to buy them individually). That night, because I wanted longer arrangements which was really expensive with higher end girls, I settled with a 6 to take her to the hotel; gave her 600 K for 1 am to 6 am. She was just ok, we did not have a good chemistry and no DKF, just pecking on the lips.

The next night I went to Troya. Extremely loud which I hate. But the girls were nice looking; could spot at least a few 7-8's. One girl immediately caught my attention. She was an 8 in my books with innocent looks; exactly the way I like them. She seemed very sweet. Negotiated 300 K from 10 pm to 6 am. I was super excited. Large corona to share with girls and tip for the waiter added up to 60 K total. In the taxi she was all over me. We stopped somewhere to grab a bite. She was really acting like a real GF in the restaurant. Again, here was where the good things ended. When we arrived at the hotel she suddenly went into her shell; no DFK, said she is not used to it! Overall, she seemed uncomfortable. No more caressing and kissings that she was giving me in the taxi. It was really odd. We had a vanilla sex and then she started watching TV for the rest of the night. I was really pissed off and after a while I turned off the TV and expressed my discontent. She apologized, we snuggled a bit and then she fell asleep in my arms. Another round of vanilla sex in the morning. She broke two of her fake nails during the night. In the morning she asked me for 200 K for hair dresser, nails and taxi! I refused. She started to act up and started crying, etc. At that point I just wanted to get her out of there; gave her 50 k and sent her home.

Next day went to Atunes in the afternoon. The atmosphere looked like a cold and poorly decorated cafeteria, nothing exciting. But on the positive side the music was not too loud and it was not too dark. Another thing that I really liked about Atunes was that I felt no pressure to buy alcohol, and the girls were not pushy at all. Got a Corona, again probably at gringo price of 16 K. A total of 15-20 girls there, most of them 6 or 7's. No body caught my eyes so I went back to my hotel to come back to Fiebre later the same night. I did not like the atmosphere of Fiebre, crowded and loud. Most girls 6-7. Ended up negotiating with a 7, for 400 K including the exit fee, for around 10 pm to the morning. She was more of a party girl than my preferred innocent or cute looking, but was facially the best I could spot on that night. Bought a large Corona, cost me 60 K with the demanding tip from the waiter. She urged me to buy another bottle for her to take to the hotel. Again, grabbed some food on our way to the hotel. She was just ok at the hotel, nothing to remember. Another suboptimal all nighter for me.

The last night in Bogota I went to Juan Pablo, one of the Northern clubs which was walking distance to my hotel. The place was dead, I mean dead. It is advertised as open from 6 pm. I first went there at 6:30, there were no girls at all, and obviously no dudes. The owner said girls come around 7-7:30. Ok, went back to my hotel and I came back again around 8:30, still not a single girl. I gave up and headed to Lola and arrived there around 9 pm. There were 5 girls, and I was the only dude there. I immediately felt attracted to a cute girl. She turned out to be Venezuelan. The club owner / manager was staring at me the whole time I was talking to the girls which was really awkward. He then pushed me to buy a bottle of drink to share with the girls. Eventually negotiated with the Venezuelan girl. She was asking 900 k from 10 pm to 7 am; negotiated down to 600 k. The exit fee and an expensive bottle of whisky came to 700 K which really pissed me off, but I was happy to get the cute Venezuelan for the whole night. At the hotel, nice DFK and 2 rounds of sex (could not do DATY because of a bit of smell), but after that she fell deep asleep, like comatose, until the morning. In the morning when she woke up she was really cranky. Did not even allow me to touch or kiss her anymore. She wanted to stay for breakfast, but I was pissed off; I said no and sent her on her way.

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-Escort experience:
I had a plan to use escort services at least a few times during my trip, but for some reason it did not work out for me. Searching this forum, and from what I had heard from one of the members here, one of the best agencies is solitasparati, but I had no luck with them. I had registered on their website too. I sent a message through whatsapp, no response. I sent an email, no response, used their online form on their website, no response. Then I asked my driver to call them and asked for a specific girl. They said if they do not know you they will not give any information! Really odd. Other escort websites looked unreliable. I gave up on escorts.

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-Photoprepagos experience:
Hooked up with one girl, her apartment was about 20 min walking from my hotel. I found her to have a hot body with killer legs; being a leg guy I could stare at her legs for hours and hours, especially in her sexy black dress. That was first time I got some DFK from a girl in Bogota but the whole session felt a bit mechanical. Damage 200 K, 50 K extra for DATY. Overall, an ok experience.

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-SPA experience:
These were probably the best experience during my trip. Mainly because there was no push to buy drinks, and prices were straightforward. This was on the last day of my trip.

Diva: Facility was ok, relatively large and bright rooms, but only a small mattress on the floor. Line up of 5 girls, and they were 6-7s; went for one of the 7s who I thought was really cute with a bright smile and cute dimples. Again, turned out to be Venezuelan. Some lame DFK, but she got really excited during the main event and both of us came really hard. Asked extra for DATY which I declined. Otherwise, she had a nice personality. We chatted a bit (google translate) and I left happy and satisfied.

Sensity: nice facility, large and clean. Line up of only 3 girls, one of them was cute, maybe a 7. I took her for an hour, it was 190 K per hour. DFK and full service. It was nice. Shower, towel, everything was very clean.

Abadubai: this was probably the highlight of my trip. Again nice facility, line up of only 3 girls, but one of them was really cute with a nice smile, overall a 7 but later her looks grew on me to an 8! In the room a bit of chat through google translate and we clicked immediately. After half an hour of flirting and foreplay we were all over each other kissing and licking every inch of each other's body. Sex was out of this world. Where has she been all those days that I was in Bogota? I took her for 2 hours and it was great. My flight was the same evening, otherwise, I would have taken her back to my hotel the same night. I left with a huge smile on my face.

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-Summary and a fair comparison to my other hobby lands:

Bogota was a nice experience. I really enjoyed the trip. Nice country, nice city, nice people. I will probably repeat my trip once a year. Now I am more motivated than ever to learn Spanish. If I knew the language, probably I would have gained a lot more from my trip. Also, next time I will have more experience of where to look and what to expect.

Now comparison to Germany FKKs:

From where I live, the air tickets to Germany and Colombia is roughly the same price. I still prefer Germany FKKs to Colombia for more regular visits, for several reasons:

- It is easy to get by communicating in English both with Germans and most of the girls, who nowadays are 90% from Romania.

- I am pretty familiar with most of the clubs all across Germany now. I usually rent a car when I land in Germany and start my adventures from club to club.

- The atmosphere in most FKK clubs is just so relaxing. You can stay the whole day in the club, most of them with buffet style food that is included in the entrance fee (typically 50 to 75 Euros) and non-alcoholic drinks and very reasonable rate for alcoholic drinks. While in the club, enjoying the eye candy of naked girls walking around you is really relaxing. Nobody pushes you to buy anything or choose a girl. Specially the clubs that have a nice garden is a treat for warmer months. I usually go to the clubs around noon and stay there until after midnight, and on average get 3-5 sessions of 1 hour or longer. Shower, towels, etc, no limits and everything clean

-In my books, most Romanian girls have a killer body, but face wise, well probably just 20-30% of them are my cup of tea. Still large enough number to allow me to have lots of fun with girls that I find quite attractive both body and face wise. Girls from Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine and Russia are more palatable to my taste, but they are hard to find these days although not impossible if you know which clubs to look for them.

-Although I did not feel unsafe in Bogota, safety is not an issue at all in Germany.

-Hygiene of all girls working in FKK clubs is impeccable. I think they are regularly tested for infection, etc. In my many years of enjoying FKKs, I probably only met one girl who I could not do DATY on because of a weird smell.

-The price typically is 50 Euros for 1/2 hour and 100 Euros for 1 hour; which is comparable to Bogota if you consider the quality of the girls into account. Sometimes there are upselling for DKF, but that can be negotiated beforehand. Most of the time, if you take the girl for 1hr everything is included. But for longer / overnight arrangements, nothing beats the price in Colombia.

Again, thanks everyone for answering my questions. Hope this review helps the first timers with similar situation and taste to mine.

I would like to hear some suggestions about the resisting the club's push of buying expensive alcohol for my next trip. Or how to get better deals / choices. I have to mention I really don't drink myself.

Nounce
07-10-18, 05:50
Bogota trip report; first timer in Colombia- and a fair comparison to FKKJust wondering why don't you try the girl on site first, like you did with spa, then decide if you want to repeat in your hotel?

Sangnyc21
07-10-18, 07:00
So I guess Lidos really is just not coming down in price. I've had a similar experience where all the Lidos girls are definitely the hottest ones in Bogota clubs.

I've been to las divas spa and they had 15 girls when I went. They had 8 at Abudubai and density is basically the same girls rotating for abu since it's the same owner.

PasionUruguay
07-10-18, 10:12
Following the insightful discussion that is going on in the latest posts I wanted to share this excerpt with everyone.

Areas where you find girls Prostitutes on the Street of Bogota

Many streets in the Santa Fe neighborhood, in Bogota, are a classic meeting point for prostitutes, with girls of different ages and charms offering their services along the public thoroughfare.

There are also the "jailed girls" of Calle 19 , between Caracas and Carrera 13, offering their services and specialties from behind a fence, usually at cheaper prices; or on Avenida 1 de Mayo, between races 68 and 71.

According to the NGO Parces (http://www.parces.org/), which has an observatory for sex work, in addition to the Santa Fe neighborhood, other street areas where prostitution is practiced are the Plaza de la Mariposa, Terraza Pasteur and La Carrilera, in the center, and Chapinero, in the east, among others.

A study of the Chamber of Commerce conducted in 1990 on prostitution in Bogota indicates that in the central area of the capital there were at that time about 14,211 women exercising prostitution; among them, 3,282 worked in the street and the rest in 1,087 establishments. 3480 exercised in the same condition in the Chapinero area.

Over the years, these figures must have gone up a lot, adding also the recent arrival of Venezuelans prostitutes in the Colombian streets (https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota/venezolanas).

The "Red Light District" of Bogota.

Saving the distances, as Amsterdam has its prestigious Red Light District, the city of Bogot has a large area dedicated to prostitution, whose main focus, at street level, is the so-called "zone of tolerance" in Santa Fe.

Video (spanish): Las calles del SANTA FE... La zona de TOLERANCIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY4_Bbxq08I)

The Santa Fe neighborhood is located between 25th and 19th streets, between Av Caracas and Carrera 24. Inside, the tolerance zone is located, located between 19th and 22nd streets, between Av Caracas and Carrera 17 .

The first officially declared tolerance zone is located in the Alameda sector, between the towns of Santa Fe and LOS Mrtires, including streets 19 to 24 and Caracas to carrera 17, where several sexual establishments have been operating for some time.

This was established by Decree 188 of 2002, including five areas of tolerance for the exercise of prostitution in Bogot, located in the center, west and north of the city.

In these areas you will find good prices and guaranteed sexual pleasure. Of course, it is not recommended to walk only these parts until late at night, although the area has enough police presence.

If you are looking for princesses or university girls offering sex for money, this place is not yours. But if you're wanting to empty the tank with a hot, big-boobed woman, here you'll feel at home.

In its dark corners and streets and even a little dark, you will get to see Colombian meat everywhere, from tall, fat, skinny, blonde, trans. What you imagine and more.

Those looking for even more accessible alternatives, on Calle 19, between Caracas and Carrera 13, are the so-called "lattices".

They are girls that you will not see walking or wandering the streets, as they provide their services from behind a fence, which can add an extra fee for the most morbid.

In addition to brothels or large whiskeys where girls offer their sexual services, in these streets that make up the zone of tolerance you can also find a lot of motels, which from the outside are like garages, where inside are the girls and the rooms.

On Caracas Avenue, between 55th and 63rd Street, there are several street prostitutes not very nice (as always, it depends on each palate and individual filter), elderly transvestites or even very young children offering their body.

Avenida Primero de Mayo (First of May Avenue)

Rumba zone and nighttime entertainment, along Primero de Mayo Avenue, between Carrera 68 and Avenida de Cali, near Mc Donald's, you can also see many working girls and even trans hams.

This area is in the south of the city and welcomes several brothels, although some of them, at first glance, it is not known if they are discotheques, gay clubs, strip club or what. Just in case, ask before entering.

On Avenida Primero de Mayo between races 68 and 71 you can see young girls walking through the streets as if it were a catwalk, waiting between cigar and cigar.

SexMajik
07-10-18, 13:08
Thanks for the report. I've been trying to decide myself whether to go to Colombia or Germany for my first trip in September. Reading your report, I got the sense that this was not a good place to go for a person like me who doesn't speak the language. Most of your experiences seemed to be very subpar. On top of that there's a language barrier that I would imagine makes a subpar experience feel alienating. Maybe it would have been better to test out your choices with 20-30 minute sessions and if positive, repeat for a longer session at the hotel. Personally I'd loathe to be stuck with a poor performer in my room, watching TV and then complaining about money the next morning. From reading your report, I was surprised when you said you wanted to go back. I guess you've learned enough from this first trip to want to improve the next one.

In any case, after reading this I'm pretty sure I'll be going to Germany despite preferring SA as a vacation destination. While I've never been to Germany, I can't say that I'm too interested in anything outside the FKK clubs. The fact that I can speak English there is a huge plus. I'm a bit confused about these "clubs" in Colombia. Are they like FKK clubs where you can chat for a bit and then have a 30 minute session? I just can't see myself wanting to spend much time with a woman who I can't communicate with, which seems to be what people are doing there. Meeting, talking, going to eat, drinks, etc. And then back to the hotel room. I'm sure Google Translate is great, but I wouldn't want to spend a few hours with a woman doing that.

Just curious about Lido. Is it 600-900 to take the girl to the hotel overnight? Are there rooms at the club where you can do a 30 min session for less? I don't mind paying more for 9's and 10's but I'm not traveling there to pay $300 for that.


Bogota was a nice experience. I really enjoyed the trip. Nice country, nice city, nice people. I will probably repeat my trip once a year. Now I am more motivated than ever to learn Spanish. If I knew the language, probably I would have gained a lot more from my trip. Also, next time I will have more experience of where to look and what to expect.

ScottHall
07-10-18, 17:34
Is there a dress code for these clubs? I'm not much of a dressy guy, I like to be casual. Sneakers with jeans wouldn't be turned away or frowned upon?

Nounce
07-10-18, 18:47
I'm a bit confused about these "clubs" in Colombia. The clubs have a bar like setting with rooms on site, usually upstairs.

Trickbaby
07-10-18, 19:18
I'm going to Bogota this week alone but am staying with Inlaws, I got to be cool but I do speak some decent Spanish. About 15 years ago I went to a casa near Chapinero from the classifieds section. It was a lifeless fuck with stretchmsrked chica all covered for 15.

Not interested in abejitas, all mechanical hustlers there too imo. If anyone knows a quality incall near galleria's or Chapinero. Some member here posted a link to real escorts that looks good. My only requisite is I need BBBJ, I'm not 24 anymore do require real stimulation and the whole CBJ ruins it for me. Feel free to pm any info or digits.

Thank you, I'll be sure to make a report.

Trombone
07-10-18, 22:44
Just wondering why don't you try the girl on site first, like you did with spa, then decide if you want to repeat in your hotel?Good point. After reading the other posts I had the impression that most rooms in the clubs are small, hot, no shower, and overall not very convenient. So, I went there with the mind set of avoiding those rooms. Plus, if I thought maybe instead of spending like 60-80 K for one HR to test drive, I would just go for multiple hrs. I think next time, I may try that strategy of test driving first, at least for some


They had 8 at Abudubai and density is basically the same girls rotating for abu since it's the same owner.My spa experience was on a Sunday; I guess lineup is a bit more limited on Sundays.


Reading your report, I got the sense that this was not a good place to go for a person like me who doesn't speak the language. Most of your experiences seemed to be very subpar...From reading your report, I was surprised when you said you wanted to go back. I guess you've learned enough from this first trip to want to improve the next one.You are right, most of my experiences were subpar. At the same time, I like variety. Although Germany FKKs are great, in the past few years they have been almost exclusively dominated by Romanian girls. So, if I crave other flavors, I travel to other places. I get my typical north american girl experiences in Canada, although a bit more expensive, but quality is great and of course no language barrier. And as you said, I learned enough from my first trip to Colombia to improve the next one. I think Colombia has lots of potentials for someone like me which I was not able to find or explore due to language barrier and being a first timer. For me, I'd like to give it a visit once a year; just for a few days. I keep the my regular hobby trips (3-5 times per year) to Germany and more frequently to Canada.


While I've never been to Germany, I can't say that I'm too interested in anything outside the FKK clubs. The fact that I can speak English there is a huge plus. I'm a bit confused about these "clubs" in Colombia. Are they like FKK clubs where you can chat for a bit and then have a 30 minute session? I don't think anything else other than FKK clubs is worth spending time and money in Germany. Escort services are way more expensive and not necessarily better quality or service. There are some other type of clubs in Germany too that are a bit different from FKK style, but for the start I recommend exclusively stick to FKKs. The clubs in Colombia are not like FKK at all, but you can certainly chat a bit with the girls and then if interested have a session with them. To my experience, seems you are obliged to buy them a drink even when only chatting with them. Very different from FKK.


Just curious about Lido. Is it 600-900 to take the girl to the hotel overnight? Are there rooms at the club where you can do a 30 min session for less? I don't mind paying more for 9's and 10's but I'm not traveling there to pay $300 for that.At lido, 600-900 is per hour, not overnight, for top girls. At least a few that I quoted. One of them quoted 500 US dollars for overnight. The girl I paid 600 K for overnight at Lido I would not consider among the top girls; may be a 6, or at most a 7 in my eyes.


Is there a dress code for these clubs? I'm not much of a dressy guy, I like to be casual. Sneakers with jeans wouldn't be turned away or frowned upon?If you are talking about high end northern clubs like Lido, I don't think there is a dress code; I saw dudes there ranging from wearing suits and ties to jeans and shirts. I myself was in jeans and shirt. But specifically had packed my nicest shirt for Lido :)

Eszpresszo
07-10-18, 23:23
While I've never been to Germany, I can't say that I'm too interested in anything outside the FKK clubs. You've never been to Germany, yet you've already decided you aren't interested in anything outside the FKK clubs? Why?

Eszpresszo
07-11-18, 01:42
Although Germany FKKs are great, in the past few years they have been almost exclusively dominated by Romanian girls.
I don't think anything else other than FKK clubs is worth spending time and money in Germany. So, you've done the Laufhaus scene? The traditional brothels? Freelancers and Hobbyhuren?

If the FKKs are mostly Romanian girls, that means they are staffing from the bottom of the barrel. Ordinary bordels in Berlin, at least will have a variety that includes German girls, Russians, Ukranians and Polish. I pulled a lovely, young Spanish girl (as in a girl from Spain) at a lower end bordel in Berlin for 60 Euros, as I recall for 45 minutes. Some bordels in Berlin with a specialize in certain nationalities. There was at least one place that featured Polish women exclusively and at least one other that was just Russian girls. There were some Asian MPs as well. You can get anything on the freelance scene in Berlin: Turkish, African, Hungarian, Brazilian, you name it. I even saw an American girl on Kaufmich.com, though she looked pretty nasty in comparison to the European girls.

Not that I'm trying to divert us from the topic at hand. I've had my fill of white girls due to decades of exposure to them. South America and Asia are my destinations for the forseeable future. But, from my perspective as someone who has spent a lot of time in Germany, the FKKs particularly appeal to North Americans. The natives however, appear to have a different set of preferences, judging by the abundance of other options.

Drifter47
07-11-18, 17:15
OK guys I have arrived in Bogota after delayed flight out of Miami. I'll be here for 10 days and little side trip to Medellin. Waiting for first secession, reports to follow.

Trickbaby
07-11-18, 21:24
Is there a dress code for these clubs? I'm not much of a dressy guy, I like to be casual. Sneakers with jeans wouldn't be turned away or frowned upon?Hi, that's a good question I may help you with. You will notice in Bogota if you are wearing sneakers you stick out. Bogota is a very conservative city crosswise. I only see sneakers on tourists in Bogota, and it also gets cold there too. The only faux pax is shorts, don't wear them, maybe in Carta or baq where it's tropical but I never see men in shorts there. Jeans and a nice shirt is safe.

Mr Enternational
07-11-18, 22:50
Hi, that's a good question I may help you with. You will notice in Bogota if you are wearing sneakers you stick out. Bogota is a very conservative city crosswise. I only see sneakers on tourists in Bogota, and it also gets cold there too. The only faux pax is shorts, don't wear them, maybe in Carta or baq where it's tropical but I never see men in shorts there. Jeans and a nice shirt is safe.Maybe you have been walking around looking at the feet of old people. All young folks wear sneakers along with jeans and t-shirts. Stick out? Never heard in Bogota from a foreigner: Good thing I didn't wear sneakers, or I would have really been sticking out. They know you are not from there. You are fooling nobody based on your clothing.

Drifter47
07-11-18, 22:58
Got to agree with you, in Bogota now and all I see is sneakers. Only the business men wear dress shoes.

Prowler5599
07-13-18, 16:18
I've been using Tinder for a week for my upcoming trip and I've been getting a bunch of responses. Some decent but some of the price quotes are ridiculous. A lot and I mean a lot of chicas are asking for 300 to 400 USD per hour. Someone out there is paying these girls way too much for them even entertain this rate. I counter much much lower and most go away. I believe that overpaying Americans are having an effect on the market in Colombia. Just like they have in Havana and Tijuana.

Drifter47
07-14-18, 00:52
I've been using Tinder for a week for my upcoming trip and I've been getting a bunch of responses. Some decent but some of the price quotes are ridiculous. A lot and I mean a lot of chicas are asking for 300 to 400 USD per hour. Someone out there is paying these girls way too much for them even entertain this rate. I counter much much lower and most go away. I believe that overpaying Americans are having an effect on the market in Colombia. Just like they have in Havana and Tijuana.Been here three days and had on very nice nurse for 40 dollars hour and stayed with me 4 hours. Most I have found on ColombianCupid and tomorrow the nurse is coming to be my guide to Bogota so don't think that all chicas are high priced, chech out the P4P all over Bogota. Heading down to Santa Fe for a little pick and choose.

Jicks
07-14-18, 05:38
I recently visited Bogota for a week, immigration entry and exit was not pleasant as it used to, entry took 2-3 minutes instead of normal 20-30 seconds. I was asked for reason of my third visit in a year without any friends or family there and staying at same hotel every time (near SF). Looks like they have record of hotels stayed. I kept telling my visit is for tourism purpose but felt it was not convincing to them. How do you manage multiple visits without issues?

Sangnyc21
07-14-18, 07:11
I've been using Tinder for a week for my upcoming trip and I've been getting a bunch of responses. Some decent but some of the price quotes are ridiculous. A lot and I mean a lot of chicas are asking for 300 to 400 USD per hour. Someone out there is paying these girls way too much for them even entertain this rate. I counter much much lower and most go away. I believe that overpaying Americans are having an effect on the market in Colombia. Just like they have in Havana and Tijuana.Holy shit I thought I was overpaying at 600 k for a tln then I see Lidos prices. With is going on in Bogota?

Routard
07-14-18, 13:08
I recently visited Bogota for a week, immigration entry and exit was not pleasant as it used to, entry took 2-3 minutes instead of normal 20-30 seconds. I was asked for reason of my third visit in a year without any friends or family there and staying at same hotel every time (near SF). Looks like they have record of hotels stayed. I kept telling my visit is for tourism purpose but felt it was not convincing to them. How do you manage multiple visits without issues?They really don't care if you come here to monger. But if you feel unconfortable for not giving a reason of your stay, tell them you come to visit a local girlfriend.

Eszpresszo
07-14-18, 13:44
They really don't care if you come here to monger. But if you feel unconfortable for not giving a reason of your stay, tell them you come to visit a local girlfriend.Thanks for clarifying that, Routard. I can't understand why a legal vice would be such an issue, particularly when so many Colombians are participating to the point it has become such a large industry. My first thought is that officials are legitimately concerned about drug trafficking, which would have never been a problem if nobody outside of South America wanted to buy cocaine. And if you are to believe the hype on the internet, drug tourism is a big draw for people from Austria to Australia (again, this is hype but I don't know how true it is). Perhaps you can offer your take on that.

Anyways, in response to the OP, it took me two or three minutes to clear immigration at MDE on my first and only trip to Colombia. I got the impression that immigration officials are cautious about who they let into the country. I would expect they have very good reasons for that.

Nordico
07-14-18, 15:29
I recently visited Bogota for a week, immigration entry and exit was not pleasant as it used to, entry took 2-3 minutes instead of normal 20-30 seconds. I was asked for reason of my third visit in a year without any friends or family there and staying at same hotel every time (near SF). Looks like they have record of hotels stayed. I kept telling my visit is for tourism purpose but felt it was not convincing to them. How do you manage multiple visits without issues?Don't worry about that. It only means that you are eligible for free colonoscopy some time in the future.

Woodman09
07-14-18, 19:20
I recently visited Bogota for a week, immigration entry and exit was not pleasant as it used to, entry took 2-3 minutes instead of normal 20-30 seconds. I was asked for reason of my third visit in a year without any friends or family there and staying at same hotel every time (near SF). Looks like they have record of hotels stayed. I kept telling my visit is for tourism purpose but felt it was not convincing to them. How do you manage multiple visits without issues?Probably Narco screening.

Trickbaby
07-14-18, 23:23
Maybe you have been walking around looking at the feet of old people. All young folks wear sneakers along with jeans and t-shirts. Stick out? Never heard in Bogota from a foreigner: Good thing I didn't wear sneakers, or I would have really been sticking out. They know you are not from there. You are fooling nobody based on your clothing.I have spent many years of my life in Bogota, now I'm here 6 months a year. Go out to a club at night and see who is wearing tennis shoes. I also know how some people spot prey. A streetwise guy can spot a Gringos a block away even a dark one by the way they walk and the clothes they have on.

Mr Enternational
07-14-18, 23:32
They really don't care if you come here to monger. But if you feel unconfortable for not giving a reason of your stay, tell them you come to visit a local girlfriend.That will work like a charm until they tell you to call her. I have been to Colombia at least 100 times and have never been asked anything. Maybe it is my shoes!

Jicks
07-15-18, 02:20
That will work like a charm until they tell you to call her. I have been to Colombia at least 100 times and have never been asked anything. Maybe it is my shoes!I'm sure they will call girl friend next time. I'm surprised they can pull record of my hotel stays with a swipe of passport.

Mr Enternational
07-15-18, 03:47
I'm sure they will call girl friend next time. I'm surprised they can pull record of my hotel stays with a swipe of passport.Don't be. The hotel has to copy your passport and send the info in to immigration. Trying to weed out overstayers.

Woodman09
07-15-18, 07:25
Don't be. The hotel has to copy your passport and send the info in to immigration. Trying to weed out overstayers.Actually they don't really worry to much about Americans and Europeans, I know many who have overstayed years and just paid a fine and got legal with a visa. I know an Aussie guy who was illegal for a 1.5 years paid 1.5 million fine and was able to get a business visa. And I also have personal experience. At this time there are 100 k+ Venezuelans here, many are illegal. But it seems to me that they are the ones being watched.

Villainy
07-15-18, 18:02
That will work like a charm until they tell you to call her. I have been to Colombia at least 100 times and have never been asked anything. Maybe it is my shoes!I agree with you. Why lie? Just say you're here on vacation. Tourism is very beneficial to Colombia and they won't bother you. If anything, they will feel pride that Americans want to visit Colombia instead of Argentina or Europe. They might ask where you are staying but that will be the end of the questions.

Kib123
07-15-18, 18:36
I don't think there is anything left about Bogota that has not been told here before. At the same time, I believe one of the benefits of the board is to hear various perspectives and experiences. We all come from a variety of backgrounds and may have different tastes and preferences. A girl that I may find to be a 9 or 10 might be a 5 or 6 in others' books. I wanted to make this review short and to the point, but it ended up being long. Never-the-less, I just hope it helps other like-minded members, specially first-timers to Colombia who are planning to arrange their trip.

Again, thanks everyone for answering my questions. Hope this review helps the first timers with similar situation and taste to mine.

I would like to hear some suggestions about the resisting the club's push of buying expensive alcohol for my next trip. Or how to get better deals / choices. I have to mention I really don't drink myself.Good report sir! Your experience reinforces my aversion to the clubs. Ripoff pricing for mostly subpar experience. I also agree on the Spa quality-price ration, only things I didn't like are the (apparently mandatory) CBJ and the shitty rooms. Not sure if you were able to pull off a BBBJ with any of them. My experience with escorts was the best overall, top-shelf GFE (all from photoprepagos), but hated that many upcharged for stuff like BBBJ & outcall.

If you haven't been, try Brazil (Rio). I found it to have the most beautiful women on earth, and perhaps the most predictable GFE experience, with zero upcharge. Only downside is having to tiptoe around hotels to bring a guest to your room. Irritating!

Germany (used to be) good for cheap, but non-GFE experience with relatively hot chicks, and the FKK experience is relaxing. But I've mostly moved on.

Colombia and Brazil will be in my regular rotation going forward.

Trombone
07-16-18, 01:30
But, from my perspective as someone who has spent a lot of time in Germany, the FKKs particularly appeal to North Americans. The natives however, appear to have a different set of preferences, judging by the abundance of other options.I totally agree. I have not gone for other options in Germany, but from the reviews I've read, FKKs are more appealing to my taste for a 3-4 days trip and I assume would be the same for most short term or new visitors. For locals or those who spend a lot of time in Germany, I agree that they may prefer options other than FKK.


Good report sir! Your experience reinforces my aversion to the clubs. Ripoff pricing for mostly subpar experience. I also agree on the Spa quality-price ration, only things I didn't like are the (apparently mandatory) CBJ and the shitty rooms. Not sure if you were able to pull off a BBBJ with any of them. My experience with escorts was the best overall, top-shelf GFE (all from photoprepagos), but hated that many upcharged for stuff like BBBJ & outcall.Thank you. BJ in general, whether it is BBBJ or CBJ, is not my thing, and I usually don't ask for it. Also, about the Spas, I specifically searched the forums for the ones that are nice, clean and large, and the ones I visited based on those info were indeed nice facilities.
Thanks for info on Brazil; it is in my to do list, but probably will not be able to explore that for at least another couple of years.

JjWalker03
07-16-18, 19:19
Hey guys,

Coming back to Bogota in two weeks. Was wondering if you guys would recommend any casas? Been to Chicas Milenio and Chicas 2000. Any other recommendations?

Sangnyc21
07-16-18, 21:39
Hey guys,

Coming back to Bogota in two weeks. Was wondering if you guys would recommend any casas? Been to Chicas Milenio and Chicas 2000. Any other recommendations?Las Divas was good. Had 20 girls when I went.

Woodman09
07-16-18, 23:56
Nice! Tours available PM me.

JjWalker03
07-17-18, 00:04
Las Divas was good. Had 20 girls when I went.Awesome! Do you have the address? Want to run the Tour-of-Brothels in the casas and Santa Fe LOL. Does anyone have the map with the different casas and strip clubs?

Thanks guys. Can't seem to find it.

MjTravelLove
07-19-18, 06:09
So I have Been living in Chapinero for a few weeks now here is what I have found in my Pussy Quest / hobby;

There are four places; Angel Azul, Sexi Girls, Lewinskys and Paris Show

Stopped in Angel Azul- this is a Big Club right on Caracas on the east side-just north of 58. It is a nite place. I just looked around for a minute- Girls looked like 6-7+ quality. I think they are probably cheap. I didn't hang around. I don't think you can get the quality of Troya or Atunes here so why bother? Didn't hear prices but I think generally for this area it is $30 mil pesos for half an hour.

Day Places

Sexi girls on the SW corner of Calle 57 and Cre 15a above the hair salon- enter on 15a This is a Great day time Budget place they specilize in 18-23 yr olds some real cuties I've gotten rid of a few rusty loads here (like 5 times). I like this place cus it's cheap and good and the girls seem to enjoy their work. Also I can walk there in less then 5 minutes PRICES; $30 mil pesos for half an hour. There is a 20 for 20 option also

Lewinskys is a video bar casa. There are some nice girls here. But Sexi Girls has a better selection from what I have seen in 2 visits. This located just across the street and a little east from Sexi Girls. Prices are the same as SG's

The Paris Show- stopped in here. Walked out pretty quick. Not Impressed- could of been a bad day-

All in all Chapinero has some good daytime fun/value. Worth spending at least an afternoon or 2. Also I feel it is a better, safer place to stay than Centro or Candelaria.

There are some nicer Daytime places further north in Zona Rosa. I think they may have nice hotties like the Mezzanine- I know about 2 of them but I have not had a chance to check them out yet. PM me if you want to hang out and bang hookers.Good stuff, mate. Will need to check out sexi girls Can't find any info on the web about it apart from your post. Any more details finding it? Need to call ahead? Address etc??

Feel free to PM me. I might go soon, so please do toss me that info and I will report back!

THANKS!

MjT.

World Travel 69
07-19-18, 14:56
Look on the Map for newer places.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.650105303648147%2C-74.07063190282952&z=15


Good stuff, mate. Will need to check out sexi girls Can't find any info on the web about it apart from your post. Any more details finding it? Need to call ahead? Address etc??

Feel free to PM me. I might go soon, so please do toss me that info and I will report back!

THANKS!

MjT.

MjTravelLove
07-19-18, 20:55
Look on the Map for newer places.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.650105303648147%2C-74.07063190282952&z=15Thanks. Not sure how I landed on 8 year old info. Whoops.

I can't find the links to the other maps. I find it hard to search the forum. Not sure why, because I used to do so with ease. Now I always seem to search the whole country but can't pinpoint this precise forum -- Bogota.

Woodman09
07-19-18, 20:58
Good stuff, mate. Will need to check out sexi girls Can't find any info on the web about it apart from your post. Any more details finding it? Need to call ahead? Address etc??

Feel free to PM me. I might go soon, so please do toss me that info and I will report back!

THANKS!

MjT.Wow-- that's from when I didn't take vitamin V- LOL! Not sure if those place are around anymore.

Here's a photo of my SF 10 GFE! I miss her so much.

Nounce
07-19-18, 21:20
I find it hard to search the forum. Not sure why, because I used to do so with ease. Now I always seem to search the whole country but can't pinpoint this precise forum -- Bogota.Use the Search Thread on the upper right corner of top post.

World Travel 69
07-19-18, 23:11
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists&p=2203060#post2203060.


Thanks. Not sure how I landed on 8 year old info. Whoops.

I can't find the links to the other maps. I find it hard to search the forum. Not sure why, because I used to do so with ease. Now I always seem to search the whole country but can't pinpoint this precise forum -- Bogota.

MjTravelLove
07-20-18, 03:48
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists&p=2203060#post2203060.Thanks!! Tried out 2 spas. Divas Spa and one other, I think called NenasBellas. The second was better. The map came in handy, so thanks again!

BkkBadBoy
07-20-18, 23:10
I finally made it to Colombia, great trip thanks to all the reports here. Bogota Aug 8 to 12. Arrived late at night on the 8th and I was a little leery about going out in a new city alone at Midnight. Stayed at a hotel in Chapinero. Daytime on the 9th I explored the bars on the Av. Caracas but didn't go in. I was just getting the lay of the land. Got back to the hotel around 4 pm after walking the city and met another American monger staying there. He offered to show me around Santa Fe at 5. Santa Fe was perfect for my afternoon needs. We walked around the block and I found a cute girl to talk to, went up. 50 k for 30 min. Antonella, Venezuelan. Talked her into a BBBJ with a 20 k tip, multiple positions, 69, DATY, great fun and a really enthusiastic girl. I'm guessing around 23 yrs old. As I left I asked if she would do anal, the reply was yes, got WhatsApp number and promised another session. Met back up with my friend the designated Tienda for a cheep beer. I understand drinking beer on the street is illegal but no one cared.

Day 2, went back to find Antonella but she was MIA and not answering WA, found a little spinner in a tight pink dress on the street and went with her to a hotel she uses. (I skipped my 1st 20 min 40 k experience because it wasn't enough time for me to enjoy. Thereafter I bargained for 30 min sessions) The spinners name was Valery. 50 k on entrance to the hotel. In the room she told me to pay here her fee. I'm like 'nope' I paid downstairs, as I started to leave she relented and we got to business. CBJ, 69, DATY, 5-6 positions, finished with some pretty hard pounding but she was into it. Her name was Valery, turns out. Another Venezuelan.

Day 3, my brother has arrived to join the fun. Another afternoon in Santa Fe. I find Antionella for my Anal session. Super! She hurt a little at first it was so tight, so I took it slow but then once she got loosened up she could take my full length. My brother found a Colombian girl I never saw and the other American went with a Colombian who was super hot! And super popular, never saw her available again. Met another girl, Andrea. Colombian. Super nice but also popular. Not available when I was there. With WA numbers all stored we went back to the hotel for a siesta.

Bro wanted more on his first day so we went to some stips. First was Pussy House. 6-7 k for our drink 16 k for ladiy drink. Nothing I was interested in there (it was a Wednesday) Bro bought a lady drink for a girl with glasses that had huge nipples. Fun for a laugh, maybe better choices on a week-end. Next strip was The 49, forewarned from this forum that it was a little pricey but we had to see what the girls looked like. Only 4 other guys in the place at 11 PM on a Wednesday. Quite the line up of smoking hot girls. My brother picked a beauty, Venezuelan (seems they are all over Colombia right now). Made a deal for 200 k for an hour, I couldn't believe it but the girls didn't have many costumers. I left him to it and went back to the hotel 3 blocks away. He comes back about 5 min after me. Seems after I left him there was mandatory 4 drinks for the girl before going to the room. I think her could have just demanded the reported 300 k for the hour but we didn't know. If anyone wants to visit there, I recommend just demanding a straight fee for room and girl. They did have some beautiful ladies though.

Thursday. We are off to Medellin. Bogota needs much more exploration by me. I think I barely saw a 10th of what is on offer.

BkkBadBoy
07-20-18, 23:34
I want to give a big thank you to Routard for his detailed city report in Bogota FAQ, amazing info.

BlueChange
07-23-18, 17:16
Been here for almost a month now. I mostly did my monger in Medellin but I have grown tired of it but still wanted to go to a place with a great exchange rate.

1. Sandy. 250 incall.

I get off the plane and get a long haul from a taxi. I get overcharged from the airport after 3 failed uber attempts. I arrive at my place in northern Usaquen and set up with a girl from Photoprepagos that does oral natrual and facials. I get into my apartment and about an hour later she shows up. Let me tell you, she has like George Lucas level of lighting effects because what showed up was like a 4 whent he photos were a 10 I really regeret sessioning with her but little head took over after such a frustrating travel. I think I droped 250 for the hour and I only had her there for 15 min before I kicked her out.

2. Nicole Chicas Milenio 100 plus tip.

I'm feeling like seeing the merchandize before I buy and decide to go to Chapenero for the time being. I don't really know the area well and have my guard up. It was around 4 pm on a Friday and the city was jumping with people. There was a great energy in the air like everyone just got paid and everyone wanted to get collectivly laid. I walk in after a couple of aimless walks past. I get in and wow the vibe in here was cool. It was like a house party where you are guarneteed to fuck. They set me up wiht the line up in the back. About 15 girls there, everytthing you can imagine from a 3 to a 9. I decided on Nicole, she was carmel skin with the cups bursting out of her tight black night shirt. We did an hour I think it was around 100. I got a beer and we headed up stairs after about 5 minutes of talking. Upstairs, the room is small but very clean. I tell her I want oral natural, kissing etc. She upsells me and I know I overpay I think by 70 mil but whatever I really connected. We finally start making out and she is an amazing kisser. We get to the oral and she grabs her alcohol wipes and wipes me down. She is one of these really clean types and the moment I have a little pre-cum she busts out the wipes again whcih sort of kills my hard on a bit. I slap on the rubber and she starts on top. I can tell she is trying to get me to cum quick but fuck that! I am in it for the distance, I want my hours worth. We do all positions, She is getting into it by the time we get to doggy. I rub her clit in just the right way and eventually she cums. I tell her it's my turn and she needs to take a minute becuase her pussy is still senstative. I take my beer can and cool down her pussy with it as a joke. She laught and we start kissing again. We start to fuck some more and I'm on top. I tell her I want to finish on her tits but she says that the shower is broken. It is ok I tell her she has plenty of alcoohol wipes. She agrees and we do a great fuck to pop move that rivals any porn movie. She can't get over how much cum I have! Great seess. We still have some time and I ask for a massage. It's half assed like all the massages here. We go back downstiars and I actually like the vibe here. THe girls are dancing on the pools and it has a great vibe. I make friends with the candy seller guy and we hit it off. His friend is there to and I now have a friend. I stay there for a couple hours, buying everyone beers etc. It turns out the owners bday was there as well and we have a great time in the party. I stay till about 7 pm but the ngiht is not over.

3. Sara No name casa next to Castillo spa 40 Mil.

I find my way into this casa via the map and some luck. I walk in the back and it's me and one other customer who is sitting down. It is later but there are about 6 girls there. They want to get the line up real qucik but I tell them give me a min as I want to get a drink. I get a Poker beer for 4 mil and I sit down. My spanish is good enough and one girl speaks broken english. I start to joke with them and they want to know if I made a selection. I tell them just wait. So I just get them all talking in a circle and we are hacving fun. I guess what part of Colombia they are from and tlak about the slang. I see thsi one girl with shorter hair who looks a little differnt and petite and I like it. She could use a nose job but her vibe was good enough. I select her and just paid 40 mil for either an hour or half hour I don't really recall. We go upstiars. The room is borderline prison conditions but fuck it I am feeling her. We waste no time and start passionatinly kissing like teenagers. I am buzzed at this point and rock hard. She grabs it and puts it in her mouth with no delay. MMMM it felt like silk and she knew what she was doing. I throw her up against the wall and pick her up and kiss her, wow I can really feel it. The connection is strong. Before I put on the rubber we are both rubbing our privates really close to each other. I didn't bareback but I was super close. I wrapp it up and just start rammer her hard. All positons she is taking it and really going crazy. Lots of kissing and hard fucking. I can feel my balls getting wetter from her wet pussy. I tell her I am going to cum and I ask her where she wants it. She says whever I want, I tell her face and she is like "SIII" dam! I waste no time and as I pull off the rubber she has her face running to get it all, she slurps it up and I slap my dick on her face so loud you can hear it over the obnicious regageton that is playing in the backround haha. Ahhh was a great session. We clean up and as I am leaving the place is shutting down. I uber myself back as I do't know the area that well.

4. Myfreecams girl.

So the other reason I went to Bogota this time was a girl from MFC that I managed to somehow jedi mind tricked her and got her whatsapp and talk with her, all the while hardly tipping (I think 25 tokens) she is 19, tall and has great tits. I will say this, her english is perfect but man she really is a fucking child. It took me like 5 times to get her to meet and finally she did with her cousin who also is on the site. She is doing it so she can get her ass done. Long story short I blew like 200 bucks in dinners and uber rides and all I got was a 40 minute makeout session on my couch. I kenw she was shy, not that good as kissing but I did get to feel those perfect 19 yo tits. Wow Totally not worth it but hey, is what it is.

5. Semi Pro off the street.

I was walking around zona t near the mall. I make a joke and there face lights up. I get the # of one of them. This fake red hair thick chick. We text back and fourth and she wants to come over. I get her an uber and HOLY FUCK does she live FAR! Like an hour ride in Uber. I was like ughhhh. She finally gets to my place and is hungry and makes me order soem food. I am like wtf. She orders this terrible chicken and rice place. Let me tell you this ***** packs it away and her serving of fried rice looked like a line backer from the patroiots. I could not belive I Was standing around waiting for this ***** to finish. Finally she does. But something is arye. She asks if I can give her some $ for her time. I tell her like 50 she agrees and than gets to the bed. Her clothes are off she is not the best looking but whatever I wanted some company. Then this happeneds, She starts to blow me and I get a smell. Yowzer! Holy fuck, her snatch was like hot garbage in a humid day in July. She is wanting to fuck but she can see my visually checkk out. I just stop and tell her in spanish that she has a very bad smell. Holy fuck. I could not wait to get rid of her! She goes to the bathroom and as I look on my sheets there is fucking blood. God dammit this girl. Ruined my fucking week! I get her an Uber and get her the fuck out. Here is the funny part. I arange to meet this other girl off tinder who to met looks like a dime but while I am heading on my way there, the Uber for her takes SOOO slong that I have hoof it. Finally she gets to her place moments before my date. Part of me wanted to just cancel the trip on her but I knew that would have been too mean. I didn't even pay her so whatever. PLus I think she lost the keys to her place. What a nightmare ugh.

6. Tinder Date.

I matched with a cutie that is tall with a really really pretty face. Almost too pretty for the city, I ask her off the bat if she is from here and she says "nooo" I guess Paisa and yes but from Perira. We go to the mall to meet and I am almost late, she says she will leave if I am not on time and I kinda like the attitude on her. She is 21 and in school for dentistry. We just hang out and I don't make any sex talk or advancements. The next day I tell her the connection is strong and tell her to come to my place so I can cook us lunch. SHe shows up in the cutest flower dress and is looking like a fucking 10. Hair make up everything. She is a dime! I play it cool and make a great meal. As soon as I am done, in the dress she starts to clean my entire kitchen herself. Wow! What a champ. She says she is tired. I get her pillows and blakets and we watch netflix. About a half hour in I am just cuddling next to her and plant one on her. She is an outstanding kisser like sooo much passion! We start grinding and dry humping for 20 minutues the next thing she asks me if I have condoms. We wind up in my bed and I'm fucking her with the flower dress half way off her body. I never actually got her fully disrobed but she came really really hard. She says it is not ususal to cum like this especially with someone she just meets. Right after she gets a little funny and says we are only friends and if we kiss or fuck again I have to be her boyfriend. Part of me just wants to go along because I ripped the rubber off half way thru after she told me she was fixed and went bareback. SHe really has some grade A pussy so I'm still talking with her. I took her to dinner and we did not kiss or anyhting true to her word. She could be a master manipulator but who knows. She is on the rag this week so hopefully if I see her again we can fuck again. Ill send cheap flowers if I can fuck it again to be honest I don't care.

7. Lorena Tantra Spa 55 Mil 30 min 80 mil 1 hour plus tip.

I moved my apartment to Chapienero after getting bored of Usaquen. I don't mind the seedyness of the area and I like getting up and being in the middle of everything. I wanted to venture back to the other casas I been to but something told me to go here. Boy was I right. I walk in, it's the evening and there are 4 girls and one is wearing a red spa outfit the only one in red. She is cute as a button, pretty face, firm tits (which I am weary of cause that spa outfit can hold up droopy dog tits) and a plump ass. She is 20 yo about 5 2 weights 90 lbs and her long black hair is ALL REAL! I can tell she is new to the biz and is under valuing herself. We get to the room, she tells me its 20 for kissing plus 20 for kissing her body tits etc. I give her 50 mil and tell her I want the real passion. Holy fuck! This girl really really good. I swear she is the poster girl for why men fall for colombians. Her tits are those perky type tits that you know haven't finished developing and they just stand at natural attention. I tell her I want to cum on her tits and the funny part is there was misunderstanding in transltion and as I go to rip the rubber off and nut on her she laughs and is like "no no no no no" so I have to just nut in the rubber. No matter what with her, she only lets you keep the leche in the rubber and will not do oral naturale. No matter what. I have already seen her 3 times and it's the same. But she did let me finger her a bunch, really hard which is odd because most girls won't let you put it inside. Oh well, if I can break her down it would be great. I got hjer whatsapp and even with a nice offer of cash she still is protection for all. Oh well. Stil she is a great fuck.

8. Pussy House.

I have dipped in here a few times. Its better on the weekend I suppose. To be honest I like the vibe but I just wish I could sit and get a drink without the harassment at the door for the bottle. My only problem I have is anytime I see a girl here worth going for she is usually taken. I am picky when it comes to finding talent at these places and I'm ghost if I don't find what I want. But I was here last Friday and the one I really made eye contact with at the bathroom was upstairs with some dude dancing. Fuck! Part of me wanted to just offer her a ridiculous amount to leave but that is just my ego being stupid. I came another weekend and again same deal except this time it was some girl who I think used to work there who was just hanging out with her current BF and their friends. Fuck I even tried to strike up a convo and she shut it down. It may be a house of pussy but that does not mean it is your house.

9. VIP Club Bianca 500 +.

I went here after going to Lalos and being disappointed with the line up. I had a drink there and the guy from Lalos walked with me here. It was Saturday at 11 pm and prime time for fun. I got in and sat down. It was a black building and I'm not sure which club it is to be honest. Wow impressive line up!! Must have been about 30 girls all looking right. It was hard to choose but I picked this lovely spinner with a smile and we just had good chemistry. She sat down, ordered a drink and I had my whiskey on the rocks. She was talking and snuck in some kissing. She was sucking on the bottom of my lip. Yowzer. I was asking her how mcuh to go back to my place. She quoted like 350 for TLN. I ask "what exactly is "ALL NIGHT" she says she has to leave by 2 am. I said that is not going to fly. We went back and fourth for a bit and finally we both agreed to just fuck here in house. I had to pay the club like 300 between the drinks and the room and then her 200. I know I feel like I got ripped in the head but I didn't realize it until after. I ususallty don't make these mistakes and I don't spend that much but I guess given the place I was in it goes with the terotitory. SHe was fun to have but the money I spent it was not worth it. She is a 9 in the face with the cutest booty in the world. All natural but I busted her out because when I was leaving she gave me her whatsapp # that I knew was a fake cause I checked the photo that came up. I asked for it again and she changed a digit so yeah. I was sort of upset because I'm like if you don't want to give it to me just say you don't give it out. Anyway long story short, I do not think these north high end clubs are worth it unless you just feel like spending more for the same exact thing. It is like wanting to go out to eat and then heading to the ball park for the food when you can get the same thing around the corner for a quater of the price.

10. Isabell 150.

I had fucked this girl when I was in Medellin maybe 3 or 4 years ago. She has giant fake cartoon tits, is 4 9 and looks like she might fall down and topple over she is so top heavy. She has a fake ass too but her personality is actually bubbly and real. I messaged her after I remember she lives in Bogota now. I saw her # on milerotic but I knew it was her. I send her a photo and she remembered me. I went to her place in Chapinenreo. Getting there was weird but on the way her phone took a nose dive and she had to text me from her friends phone. I was a little sus at first but it turns out the story was true. As I got there she was resetting a new phone and she was just telling me how much of a pain it was to deal with. I wound up staying almost 2 hours. Sex with her is fun. The highlight was she just recent got her belly button pierced and I had to watch out. It was painful and I couldn't touch her there. So I want to cum on her tits and as I do she like leans down on the bed with her tit hovering and making she her stomach is not exposed. It was funny and I realized it was to avoid any nut juice hitting her stomach for fear of infection. Anyway good times but I can tell she has about another year left in the biz before she goes and sells clothes or some shit. Her face as aged and the milledge on her has shown.

11. Acuarius Valentina 40 mil.

I was horny on a Friday afternoon and was going to see my tinder date so I wanted to get my nut out before hand. The line up was about 5 girls and the only one worth it was Valentina. She is 5 1 petite with some slight thickness but no kids body. About 20 years old. She can't understand my Spanish as well as she is Venezualian. She was very passionate and really into it. I was loving when we did it dogystyyle how she would grab my hands to hold her tits tighter. Really a great fuck for the value as well 40 mil! She tells me she never been with a gringo and I was her first and she enjoyed it. She gave me a handjob and let me finish on her perky be cups. I would totally fuck her again. She was just one of those fun girls who enjoys sex and is there for a good time.

I went to some other places and I must say the map is the life saver for anyone going to Bogota. Wow I feel like I knew the secret menu. I went to La 49 and found the LU not that great even though it was a Saturday night. I wound up going around the corner to some bar bext to mansion de la 49 and found the LI to be a lot more fun and the enviroment better. I think it is those mid way places with a good energy that are really worth it.

That is my report for now I will have a few more but I hope you guys enjoy Bogota as much as I do. I know Medellin is more popular but Bogota does have it's strengths and is worth the visit.

Mr Enternational
07-23-18, 20:46
BlueChange man you put it down with that report. I am over here laughing my ass off. My coworker thinks I am laughing at the shit she is saying but I don't know what the hell she is even talking about. Yowzer. Like you are on a cartoon or something.

DavidSchmauch
07-24-18, 01:24
No kidding, in Chappinero, part of Bogota that resembles Brooklyn with all those fancy hipster cafes and restaurants that give away that modern, hipster feel. Staying at La Pinta hostel on avenue and 65th street, so the meat market I'm talking about is only about seven or eight blocks away from a hostel and its address is Avenida Caracas No. 58-16, and it is a second floor. Five to ten girls, three or four pretty good and two are very good, not Zona T good but more than a good value for ten bucks (25000 Col Pesos).

Been to Santa Fe with some Danish guys from the hostel and witnessed a robbery where a guy was snatching a purse from a seemingly local girl as she fought for it and got smacked real bad and I said never again Santa Fe. Luckily there are places like this in Chapinero and I have no reason to look for it elsewhere. Zona T is ridiculous, same kind of girls and bar owners looking for $100 or more for the same thing, I just can't believe that, and it is a 5 minutes walk from Chapinero. What idiots. I have a biz card for another $ 10 place here in Chapinero but won't write about it till I try it out.

Happy monging and remember, Your money is worth more than some worn out pussy, so ten bucks should be just about what you should pay for it.

Turgid
07-24-18, 11:32
No kidding, in Chappinero, part of Bogota that resembles Brooklyn with all those fancy hipster cafes and restaurants that give away that modern, hipster feel. Staying at La Pinta hostel on avenue and 65th street, so the meat market I'm talking about is only about seven or eight blocks away from a hostel and its address is Avenida Caracas No. 58-16, and it is a second floor. Five to ten girls, three or four pretty good and two are very good, not Zona T good but more than a good value for ten bucks (25000 Col Pesos).

Been to Santa Fe with some Danish guys from the hostel and witnessed a robbery where a guy was snatching a purse from a seemingly local girl as she fought for it and got smacked real bad and I said never again Santa Fe. Luckily there are places like this in Chapinero and I have no reason to look for it elsewhere. Zona T is ridiculous, same kind of girls and bar owners looking for $100 or more for the same thing, I just can't believe that, and it is a 5 minutes walk from Chapinero. What idiots. I have a biz card for another $ 10 place here in Chapinero but won't write about it till I try it out.

Happy monging and remember, Your money is worth more than some worn out pussy, so ten bucks should be just about what you should pay for it.What an angry post! Women = meat? Money worth more than pussy? Love the women, don't hate them.

BlueChange
07-24-18, 22:13
BlueChange man you put it down with that report. I am over here laughing my ass off. My coworker thinks I am laughing at the shit she is saying but I don't know what the hell she is even talking about. Yowzer. Like you are on a cartoon or something.Thank you, check out my greatest hits.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1989909#post1989909.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1892374#post1892374.

GB Mongers
07-26-18, 01:55
I just came from Absolut Spa at Cra. 16 # 80-66.

First of all, a dark middle-aged woman whom I thought was the mamasan of the place came to the room and offered a FS for 300 k. I negotiated down to 200 k and was expecting to see girls. After 3 minutes, she turned up ready to give a blow. I had to send her back and ask for other girls.

I was then introduced to 6 girls all 5-7 range and picked the first one called Mariana with dark hair. She also offered FS for 280 k which I negotiated down to 200 k.

She then started shitty massage (more like back rubbing) for 5 minutes and was already eager to just finish me. No kiss, no touch but just super short CBJ and FS with a clear goal of finishing me ASAP. I got so pissed off after a couple of minutes and asked her to stop.

Since I can't speak Spanish, I had to rely on Google Translator.

Cutting to the chase, I got furious with Mariana and also the mamasan whom I asked to summon.

I requested a partial refund but no luck. They were saying 200 k only gets you 10-20 minutes of full service and I should have paid full 280 k for 1 hour service. Go figure.

Avoid Absolut Spa, avoid Mariana!

My worst mongering experience by far!

BlueChange
07-27-18, 15:11
I just came from Absolut Spa at Cra. 16 # 80-66.

First of all, a dark middle-aged woman whom I thought was the mamasan of the place came to the room and offered a FS for 300 k. I negotiated down to 200 k and was expecting to see girls. After 3 minutes, she turned up ready to give a blow. I had to send her back and ask for other girls.

I was then introduced to 6 girls all 5-7 range and picked the first one called Mariana with dark hair. She also offered FS for 280 k which I negotiated down to 200 k.

She then started shitty massage (more like back rubbing) for 5 minutes and was already eager to just finish me. No kiss, no touch but just super short CBJ and FS with a clear goal of finishing me ASAP. I got so pissed off after a couple of minutes and asked her to stop.

Since I can't speak Spanish, I had to rely on Google Translator.

Cutting to the chase, I got furious with Mariana and also the mamasan whom I asked to summon.

I requested a partial refund but no luck. They were saying 200 k only gets you 10-20 minutes of full service and I should have paid full 280 k for 1 hour service. Go figure.

Avoid Absolut Spa, avoid Mariana!

My worst mongering experience by far!You know what's crazy. I JUST walked by that place on Sunday and thought to myself "wow this place looks nice on a quite street I wonder if it is a hidden gem" Thank you for taking one for the team. I answered your DM I am having an incredible run in BOG. I'll bet you can have 3 amazing chicas for what you paid to make up for your loss. Hola.

Nclpimp
07-27-18, 19:12
Holler at me.


Been here for almost a month going around the corner to some bar bext to mansion de la 49 and found the LI to be a lot more fun and the enviroment better. I think it is those mid way places with a good energy that are really worth it.

That is my report for now I will have a few more but I hope you guys enjoy Bogota as much as I do. I know Medellin is more popular but Bogota does have it's strengths and is worth the visit.

BlueChange
07-27-18, 23:39
Holler at me.Go head I emptied it.

DavidSchmauch
07-30-18, 01:12
It is not there anymore, some locals told me sexy girls moved, probably recently as you posted this a few days ago.


Good stuff, mate. Will need to check out sexi girls Can't find any info on the web about it apart from your post. Any more details finding it? Need to call ahead? Address etc??

Feel free to PM me. I might go soon, so please do toss me that info and I will report back!

THANKS!

MjT.

PirateMorgan
07-30-18, 14:46
As mentioned in an earlier post, why would someone pay 300,000 pesos, and really, 200,000 pesos for a massage / sex place here in Bogota. I have never paid more than 100,000 (and she used her tongue everywhere) and now, with the influx of Venezuelans, there is pressure on prices all over town. Paid 35,000 for a quicky in Sante Fe recently. You guys have to understand this about Bogota. There are VERY few gringos in Bogota so prices have to meet local demand. This is not Cartagena nor Medellin. Very very few gringos. And places to have sex fun are EVERYWHERE! Pura Vida.

BlueChange
07-30-18, 17:06
As mentioned in an earlier post, why would someone pay 300,000 pesos, and really, 200,000 pesos for a massage / sex place here in Bogota. I have never paid more than 100,000 (and she used her tongue everywhere) and now, with the influx of Venezuelans, there is pressure on prices all over town. Paid 35,000 for a quicky in Sante Fe recently. You guys have to understand this about Bogota. There are VERY few gringos in Bogota so prices have to meet local demand. This is not Cartagena nor Medellin. Very very few gringos. And places to have sex fun are EVERYWHERE! Pura Vida.You are right about that. Not that many Gringos. I really wonder why that is? I mean it is the capital city but I am surprised how many times I ask a girl and I am either her first or maybe only one or two other that was a gringo. What is the deal with that?

Woodman09
07-30-18, 18:40
As mentioned in an earlier post, why would someone pay 300,000 pesos, and really, 200,000 pesos for a massage / sex place here in Bogota. I have never paid more than 100,000 (and she used her tongue everywhere) and now, with the influx of Venezuelans, there is pressure on prices all over town. Paid 35,000 for a quicky in Sante Fe recently. You guys have to understand this about Bogota. There are VERY few gringos in Bogota so prices have to meet local demand. This is not Cartagena nor Medellin. Very very few gringos. And places to have sex fun are EVERYWHERE! Pura Vida.Yes, most of the high priced girls make their way to Santa Fe regularly and charge $60,000-$80,000.

KingAmongKings
07-31-18, 22:16
Any good places for Texas Holdem in Bogota? I saw Aladdin casino in Santa Fe. Any reviews would be much appreciated.

DavidSchmauch
08-01-18, 03:06
It's called Rosquillas and is located in Chapinero at Calle 64 and 15-30, basically 64th street and 5th av, if you get to the corner by a lighting store a kid that works for the place will spot your white ass and take you there. About 20 plus girls, most of them more than sexy for a quickie. A few gems, probably nothing like Lido style but Lido girls cost 250 bucks an hour and these are $ ten, or more like 9 (25000 pesos). Bro, they pissed me off in Zona T the other day asking for 300000 pesos, I was mad all day. Now I know where to go for the next too weeks. Enjoy. Hope you tip the kid outside, it is a good luck.

Mr Enternational
08-01-18, 05:41
As mentioned in an earlier post, why would someone pay 300,000 pesos, and really, 200,000 pesos for a massage / sex place here in Bogota.Because you get what you pay for?

Woodman09
08-01-18, 06:32
Any good places for Texas Holdem in Bogota? I saw Aladdin casino in Santa Fe. Any reviews would be much appreciated.Those casinos in SF are kinda ghetto. Have not seen any with cards. There are some larger casinos not far on Calle 22 and carrera 7 also in the mall by the Tequendama hotel.

There are casinos all over.

Woodman09
08-01-18, 17:58
Those casinos in SF are kinda ghetto. Have not seen any with cards. There are some larger casinos not far on Calle 22 and carrera 7 also in the mall by the Tequendama hotel.

There are casinos all over.Whoops! Meant to say the casinos near SF do not have cards, the 2 larger do have Texas Hold them.

Kazeu
08-02-18, 01:25
Just a little info from boots on the ground. Went uptown to the Mezenanine today. This was my first time there. I was a little bit disapointed by what was on offer. To those who don't know its Carrera 15 #104-03. Go up the steps and keep walking straight and in the back are 4 small "shops". I only entered 1, I looked at the price list and then was shown 3 girls. Its 90 k for 1 hour, el sexo included. There are other options for combinations of less time and less services. I asked if they had a bathroom with a shower to cleanup afterwards, and was told no. The room I was shown was really small, barely big enough to hold a massage table, maybe 8 x4 ft. Wasn't my cup of tea, so I politely declined. No fee for the presentation of girls. I thought there might be since that's the MO in Medellin casas. They're all right next to each other, one after the other so I peaked my head in 2 of the other shops. Nothing worth writing home about. Either too old or too tall. There was one girl who was probably 5'10. I'm not sure if she had heels on.

Eszpresszo
08-02-18, 03:13
Just a little info from boots on the ground.Thanks for your report from the trenches. Please keep them coming if its convenient, because I've found after I get home and write an FR, I'm always forgetting some details in my post-jetlag coming down. I'm headed there in four weeks, so any fresh updates would be helpful to everyone. Don't hesitate to take one for the forum.

SuperSaint
08-02-18, 03:41
I am RTFF, but can someone tell me the equivalent areas to poblado / laureles in BOG?

Woodman09
08-02-18, 05:15
Just a little info from boots on the ground. Went uptown to the Mezenanine today. This was my first time there. I was a little bit disapointed by what was on offer. To those who don't know its Carrera 15 #104-03. Go up the steps and keep walking straight and in the back are 4 small "shops". I only entered 1, I looked at the price list and then was shown 3 girls. Its 90 k for 1 hour, el sexo included. There are other options for combinations of less time and less services. I asked if they had a bathroom with a shower to cleanup afterwards, and was told no. The room I was shown was really small, barely big enough to hold a massage table, maybe 8 x4 ft. Wasn't my cup of tea, so I politely declined. No fee for the presentation of girls. I thought there might be since that's the MO in Medellin casas. They're all right next to each other, one after the other so I peaked my head in 2 of the other shops. Nothing worth writing home about. Either too old or too tall. There was one girl who was probably 5'10. I'm not sure if she had heels on.Mezzanine has small rooms that is true, but they have some really nice girls, I used to go every month or so for a couple years to see this Super hot girl. I would Bone her twice and we would smoke a joint and eat ice cream.

Mr Enternational
08-02-18, 05:51
I am RTFF, but can someone tell me the equivalent areas to poblado / laureles in BOG?Zona Rosa maybe? There are bars and restaurants kind of like Poblado, but hardly ever foreigners.

Woodman09
08-02-18, 08:03
I am RTFF, but can someone tell me the equivalent areas to poblado / laureles in BOG?Parque 93 is a hot spot near a little north of Zona Rosa. Zona Rosa has really great clubs and lotsa hot non pro action. Pro action too of course.

The Tall Man
08-02-18, 18:07
Mezzanine has small rooms that is true, but they have some really nice girls, I used to go every month or so for a couple years to see this Super hot girl. I would Bone her twice and we would smoke a joint and eat ice cream.My kind of girl! Had a regular like yours once upon a time and ever since still searching.

TTM.

GreenBud
08-02-18, 23:26
Any good places for Texas Holdem in Bogota? I saw Aladdin casino in Santa Fe. Any reviews would be much appreciated.The best place in Bogota for Texas Hold 'em should be Luckia casino (in Zona T). It advertises itself as the largest poker room in Bogota. It has 1-3 and 2-5 COP no limit hold 'em. It sometimes has Omaha High (with a higher limit). No games on Sunday.

Good game. Loose players. Skill level of the players are a level below from the California clubs.

No comps for food or drinks. Lima's Majestic casino poker room had free beer and food. Good game (i.e. loose players).

I was told that Luckia was the only poker room in Bogota. Incorrect? Maybe he meant Zona T. I'm getting conflicting info.

Lion55
08-03-18, 01:29
Can any Bogota regulars please tell me closing time of the Mezzanine shops. I'm visiting later this month on business for a couple of days but have work dinners each evening. I'the like to get in some fun and have had good luck at the Mezzanine shops but have always visited in the middle of the day.

Nounce
08-03-18, 17:02
Can any Bogota regulars please tell me closing time of the Mezzanine shops. This is from Routard's excellent FAQ.



The massage parlors are open every day including Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm.

SuperSaint
08-03-18, 22:32
Thanks for the info guys. I made calls to 5 of the four and five star hotels that show on google maps in these two areas, only 1 had no guest fee. (happened to be out of my price range).


Parque 93 is a hot spot near a little north of Zona Rosa. Zona Rosa has really great clubs and lotsa hot non pro action. Pro action too of course.
Zona Rosa maybe? There are bars and restaurants kind of like Poblado, but hardly ever foreigners.

JjBee62
08-04-18, 02:27
Thanks for the info guys. I made calls to 5 of the four and five star hotels that show on google maps in these two areas, only 1 had no guest fee. (happened to be out of my price range).Try a little further south around Parque Virrey. Some of the hotels on Carrera 15 have no guest fee and they're very reasonable and nice rooms.

Woodman09
08-04-18, 06:40
Went out to SF tonite with a friend, We walked the streets taking in the eye candy, probably 120+ girls outside. And plenty that most would be very happy with.

We then went to Venus and right away there are 4 super hot girls 7 to 9's naked in full contact lapdances. It was full of Super Hot Girls 5's to 9's and more Hot than not maybe 20+ girls. I started dirty dancing with this Paisa Spinner and ended upstairs with her for $40 mil. Had a problem because of beer, but she hung in there with me and got me to pop. Actually I did session with one of my Streety Sweeties about 40 minutes before. These are the salad days for pussy in Santa Fe.

Mancelerator
08-06-18, 14:17
So I'm back from my home visit to Bogota, lucky to say it was a good one. Been reading this thread for some time and finally went for an online escort for my first time. These sites https: photoprepagos. Com / escorts / Bogota and https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota where the best ones out there.

Ended up calling this girl Carolina Acevedo, I want to tell you about my experience with her because it was actually pretty good. It is a whole bomb if you know how to activate it. It's a girl between 26 and 30 years old. It has a pretty face, a provocative mouth and a body that for my taste is 8. All of it is natural. It has tits also 8 (that activate it if you can play with them).

She has an incall place at Chapinero at Motel 61. She's tall and willing. The service started with a small warm-up talk, after a few rich kisses, she happened to have the initiative. She opened the curtains of the room and to my surprise, made a small strip tease. I told her: they are going to see us and she said. "well, how nice".

From there it happened to a short but lustfull oral sex (she knows how to suck slowly) . She let me touch her "cuquita" that had already began to get wet. She asked me to fuck her and suck her tits. She shows that she is new but. She is willing and above all, it shows that she likes sex. She even got really wet and scream "give me, give me, give me", which is always weird when they do that.

After a while of riding me she asked me to fuck her hard. I opened her legs and gave her hard. The job lasted an hour and finally I came to ask for an extra (come on her tits) and agreed.

Name: Carolina Acevedo.

Age: 25.

English: Not really.

Blow Job: 8.

Cowgirl: 7.5.

Ad website: https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/carolina-acevedo3229023720.

DavidSchmauch
08-07-18, 03:21
I can't stop raving about this Casa that is as good if not better than 'Casa New Life' in Medellin.

OK, first of all, I've been there about five or six times already and had a few good and a couple of (not bad), but not so crazy good experiences where some average looking chica wanted to take more money from me by not giving what was kind of understood she wold give for 25 k. No big deal, in every case my tank was empty so I will not complain.

Now, straight to the case, I want to talk about good chicas that Rosquillas has plenty of, at least twenty percent of those chicas are as good as those guys get through websites here in Colombia and Brasil and pay ten or twenty times as much.

First of all, Rosquillas is located in industrial part of Chapinero and is on 15th Avenue and 64th street, address is Cll 64 and 15-30 where there is another casa in the same block and the guy from that other casa will try to get you in, but You will just waste your time. Well, go and see it, it won't hurt, but with twenty plus girls at Rosquillas, they have much more than something for everyone.

Do not get intimidated by a lot of locals drunk and sleazy inside, this is a casa that pricewise caters to locals and not necessarily to the rest of us, but they are all very friendly as well as the staff. I had three amazing chicas already (Dulce from Venezuela, Maria from Bogota and my fav Kamila from Medellin). Dulce is 19, Beyonce looking girl, a bit heavy but nice nonetheless, great passionate service, very friendly. Maria is about 20, or so she said, great body, tall, firm tits, very nice BJ and sex is to the point. Kamila is Casa version of J Lo, very friendly, big ass, perfect chica for the job. She will offer you en culito immediately and bare back for extra 50 k, not sure how much more for no condom, but all in all very pro. If you want her in your hotel room, she asks 200 k for an hour and a half, not bad at all.

There is another three or four candies I will see before my flight next week the most beautiful of which is Nicole, tall, skinny big ass dark hair perfect Latina.

Well, go ahead and see how yall like it, but at that price you can't go wrong.

I don't know how you guys can ever go to that intimidating Santa Fe place, it feels wrong the moment you set your foot there.

Happy monging.

BlueChange
08-07-18, 07:18
Hey You, the jerk off who comes up to me and the girl I am having a drink with at my table, gives me a "pound" and then waves US currency at her to get her to leave. Congratulations, you played yourself.

Look, we all know they are there for the money, however there is certain etiquette. How about wait your fucking turn? I get it, the girl is a real looker, natural pretty face with no make up like a solid 9 and has great energy, but REALLY?

She tells me how much of an idiot you are after you try to walk her away to the bar with her. You even made eye contact with me moments earlier, you know I am connected with the staff, did you not see momemnts earlier I was up in the booth and by the stairs in the girls dressing room?

Don't be an asshole and think because you have green money you can do whatever you want. This is why people dislike Americans and gringos. Be a gentleman.

Just chill, wait your turn. If she doesn't have time and I have taken it all, well then show up another day. There are SOOOO many here. Do not be a fool. P.S. Your breath kicks like hot garbage in July according to her.

Best,

Blue.

Routard
08-07-18, 14:06
So I'm back from my home visit to Bogota, lucky to say it was a good one. Been reading this thread for some time and finally went for an online escort for my first time. These sites https: photoprepagos. Com / escorts / Bogota and https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota where the best ones out there.

Ended up calling this girl Carolina Acevedo, I want to tell you about my experience with her because it was actually pretty good. It is a whole bomb if you know how to activate it. It's a girl between 26 and 30 years old. It has a pretty face, a provocative mouth and a body that for my taste is 8. All of it is natural. It has tits also 8 (that activate it if you can play with them).

She has an incall place at Chapinero at Motel 61. She's tall and willing. The service started with a small warm-up talk, after a few rich kisses, she happened to have the initiative. She opened the curtains of the room and to my surprise, made a small strip tease. I told her: they are going to see us and she said. "well, how nice".

From there it happened to a short but lustfull oral sex (she knows how to suck slowly) . She let me touch her "cuquita" that had already began to get wet. She asked me to fuck her and suck her tits. She shows that she is new but. She is willing and above all, it shows that she likes sex. She even got really wet and scream "give me, give me, give me", which is always weird when they do that.

After a while of riding me she asked me to fuck her hard. I opened her legs and gave her hard. The job lasted an hour and finally I came to ask for an extra (come on her tits) and agreed.

Name: Carolina Acevedo.

Age: 25.

English: Not really.

Blow Job: 8.

Cowgirl: 7.5.

Ad website: https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/carolina-acevedo3229023720. Y nosotros bobos?

Sangnyc21
08-07-18, 15:37
BlueChange,

I like to spend and have fun but can't be disrespectful and flashy. That's just asking for bad news to come your way.

KingAmongKings
08-07-18, 23:06
Tried to locate it on Google map. Did you mean Carrera 15? Near the pizza place?


I can't stop raving about this Casa that is as good if not better than 'Casa New Life' in Medellin.

OK, first of all, I've been there about five or six times already and had a few good and a couple of (not bad), but not so crazy good experiences where some average looking chica wanted to take more money from me by not giving what was kind of understood she wold give for 25 k. No big deal, in every case my tank was empty so I will not complain.

Now, straight to the case, I want to talk about good chicas that Rosquillas has plenty of, at least twenty percent of those chicas are as good as those guys get through websites here in Colombia and Brasil and pay ten or twenty times as much..

Starlord1
08-08-18, 10:45
Tried to locate it on Google map. Did you mean Carrera 15? Near the pizza place?Can someone please post the right address to this awesome new place.

Tra003
08-09-18, 17:33
Hey guys,

I'm flying into Bogota on the Sunday of August 19th and staying the week. Will most likely spend my time playing in Santa Fe as I had great success there before. However, I heard that the Monday is a religious holiday. Does this slow down all action on the Sunday / Monday, and everything is closed?

DavidSchmauch
08-10-18, 03:41
The address is Cll 64 and 1x-x0.

So, when you get to Avenida Caracas at 64th street in Chapinero, walk west another block and a half and it will be 64th street between 1xth and 1xth A Avenues (or what they call Carrera). Don't go to the place that is closer to 15th av even though the guy will try to get you in, unless you want to see what's happening there, so if someone gets you to go upstairs to the second floor you are in that other place where there is only about seven or eight girls, Rosquillas is on the ground floor, a few doors down, again, the address is Calle 6x and 1x-x0 in Chapinero.

Prices 20 minutes 25 k, 30 minutes 36 k, one hour not sure but I think 50 k.

I just discovered a new place in the area, actually around the block from Rosquillas and it is called Gaticas, on Avenue Caracas No 6x-x6, same price 25 k per 20 minutes and there was two very good girls from Venezuela, but nothing like Rosquillas, simply nothing in Bogota comes even close to Rosquillas unless your daddy gave you ten thousand dollars to spend on night life.

Let me know what you guys think about the place.

Oh, the best time to get there by far is 10 am, girls are super fresh, I know a lot of you won't get up that early but if you can catch it before noon you are definitely getting those expensive Zona Rosa chicas at the fraction of the price.

Jalle
08-10-18, 10:59
I'm currently planning my trip for Nov / Dec and doing some homework.

Having learned about casas, massage places, Santa Fe streets, and various agencies Bogota seems quite clear regarding pricing and quality. I'm also considering to subscribe either colombiancubid or SA for some semi-pro action and prepare my Spanish for the trip. Has anyone idea how much those girls expect for few hours? I understand expats with perfect Spanish and home field advantage make different deals than me, but what would be reasonable price range to expect with my basic spanish, below 40 yo, european looking?

Starlord1
08-11-18, 07:13
The address is Cll 64 and 1x-x0.

So, when you get to Avenida Caracas at 64th street in Chapinero, walk west another block and a half and it will be 64th street between 1xth and 1xth A Avenues (or what they call Carrera). Don't go to the place that is closer to 15th av even though the guy will try to get you in, unless you want to see what's happening there, so if someone gets you to go upstairs to the second floor you are in that other place where there is only about seven or eight girls, Rosquillas is on the ground floor, a few doors down, again, the address is Calle 6x and 1x-x0 in Chapinero.

Prices 20 minutes 25 k, 30 minutes 36 k, one hour not sure but I think 50 k.

I just discovered a new place in the area, actually around the block from Rosquillas and it is called Gaticas, on Avenue Caracas No 6x-x6, same price 25 k per 20 minutes and there was two very good girls from Venezuela, but nothing like Rosquillas, simply nothing in Bogota comes even close to Rosquillas unless your daddy gave you ten thousand dollars to spend on night life.

Let me know what you guys think about the place.

Oh, the best time to get there by far is 10 am, girls are super fresh, I know a lot of you won't get up that early but if you can catch it before noon you are definitely getting those expensive Zona Rosa chicas at the fraction of the price.Yoooo that's crazy. Thanks bro ham. Will be there on Aug 28th will see what you talking about. Thats' a bold statement.

PirateMorgan
08-12-18, 13:34
It has been 100 years since I was at Platos in NY and I bit the dust and went with my girlfriend last night. 60,000 to get in and about 95 $ for a pint of vodka and mixers. Nice place, not big, one bigger sitting room and one play room. The sex show started at 11:45. One stud and two girls. They interacted with the crowd... who were mostly dressed. After the show people drifted in and out of the play room. In the playroom everything happened that you might imagine. Groups. Women with women. All kinds of goodies. The club is in the best neighborhood and you can walk around afterwards. Even at 2 in the morning. Interesting all in all. (couples only).

ThadMax
08-12-18, 21:11
Just wanted to shout out everyone out on the boards for their continued advice, wit, and humor. I've contributed to the MDE board but am considering a trip to Bogota or Brazil. I absolutely loved Medellin and feel it will be tough to beat. But want to try something else. For those who have visited both Brazil and Colombia. What is your preference, and why? Is it worth taking the extra trek south to Brazil? Is Bogota actually better than Medellin? Does Brazil really stand alone at the top in terms of monger destinations? Do tell LOL.

DavidSchmauch
08-13-18, 00:20
Hostels in Chapinero are super nice, I am staying at La Pinta on 7th av and 65th street, literally like five or six blocks from Rosquillas which is on 64th and 15 A, minutes to the place by foot. I was in Candelaria and Macarena a few days ago, Macarena is something like Chapinero, very safe, hipster style neighborhoods, while Candelaria is extremely touristy, so many street vendors, it looks a bit annoying. I was in Macarena at Cafe Popular with some Colombian friends I met at the hostel and they told me that bad neighbourhoods around Centro are many like Santa Fe which is very obvious and La Perseverancia which is not as obvious but just crossing a street from that Carrera 4 A where all the fancy cafes and restaurants are could get you in trouble.

Well, that much for now, Flying out to NYC on Tuesday, will visit Rosquillas a few more times, was there today, about ten chicas were there around noon, had a nice Venezuelan bubble but chica that goes by the name Gaby.

That other place next door is not even hustling no more, with half as many girls and one tenth the quality of Rosquillas, you better step up your game.

Weather in Bogota mostly beautiful with rain every day drizzling at various times, very pleasant.

Peace.

Woodman09
08-13-18, 17:31
Just wanted to shout out everyone out on the boards for their continued advice, wit, and humor. I've contributed to the MDE board but am considering a trip to Bogota or Brazil. I absolutely loved Medellin and feel it will be tough to beat. But want to try something else. For those who have visited both Brazil and Colombia. What is your preference, and why? Is it worth taking the extra trek south to Brazil? Is Bogota actually better than Medellin? Does Brazil really stand alone at the top in terms of monger destinations? Do tell LOL.I have been to all 3, Brazil has better food and Rio is a true tropical paradise. The termas are a great set-up. You should definitely go at least once.

I feel Brazil is more dangerous. The people are not as friendly to foreigners.

All 3 have beautiful women, Bogota has the most and probably the best prices.

KingAmongKings
08-13-18, 20:18
I am looking at Google maps and it's right in between the plataforma cigararilla and some panaderia right?

BlueChange
08-14-18, 05:15
Just wanted to shout out everyone out on the boards for their continued advice, wit, and humor. I've contributed to the MDE board but am considering a trip to Bogota or Brazil. I absolutely loved Medellin and feel it will be tough to beat. But want to try something else. For those who have visited both Brazil and Colombia. What is your preference, and why? Is it worth taking the extra trek south to Brazil? Is Bogota actually better than Medellin? Does Brazil really stand alone at the top in terms of monger destinations? Do tell LOL.The first place I ever mongered was Rio. That said I have been to Med prob a dozen or more times.

Here is the deal. Rio has more array of girls and they are more vulgar and fuck intensely.

Colombia.

Medellin.

Paisa chicas are the prettiest and they are very sweet when they fuck, lots of kissing etc.

Bogota.

More compeition so easier to find more girls at cheaper prices. It is not organized cause the type of talent is all over the place. Rolas are not as pretty as Paisa but tbere is also a mix of VnZ that Med does not has many of.

To break it down.

Rio is Costco.

Bogata is Wal Mart.

Medellin is Whole Foods.

Mr Enternational
08-14-18, 12:27
Weather in Bogota mostly beautiful with rain every day drizzling at various times, very pleasant.I guess beautiful weather is very subjective. What I do not like about Bogota is that it gets cold. Not bone chilling, but cold enough. And if you are not staying somewhere like the Marriott, there will be no heat. My girlfriend is from Cartagena but has lived in Bogota a while. She is always complaining about how cold it is as well and staying inside under the covers when she gets home from work.

Eszpresszo
08-15-18, 03:25
I feel Brazil is more dangerous. The people are not as friendly to foreigners.
Are you referring to Brazil in general, or the larger cities like Rio and Sao Paolo? The way people describe the residents of these places doesn't jibe with my experiences with Brazilian expats in the US. Then again, the average Brazilian doesn't live in the US, either. Foreigners who only visit NYC, MIA or LA will have an odd take on Americans that doesn't reflect the general population anywhere, for reasons that any American will understand. Same goes with London versus most of the UK, or Paris versus the rest of France. Large cities don't typically reflect the people of a nation, and they are often unsafe places. I am curious if that paradox exists in Brazil.

KingAmongKings
08-15-18, 13:57
Interesting thought.


Are you referring to Brazil in general, or the larger cities like Rio and Sao Paolo? The way people describe the residents of these places doesn't jibe with my experiences with Brazilian expats in the US. Then again, the average Brazilian doesn't live in the US, either. Foreigners who only visit NYC, MIA or LA will have an odd take on Americans that doesn't reflect the general population anywhere, for reasons that any American will understand. Same goes with London versus most of the UK, or Paris versus the rest of France. Large cities don't typically reflect the people of a nation, and they are often unsafe places. I am curious if that paradox exists in Brazil.

Balboa
08-15-18, 17:08
I have been to all 3, Brazil has better food and Rio is a true tropical paradise. The termas are a great set-up. You should definitely go at least once.

I feel Brazil is more dangerous. The people are not as friendly to foreigners.

All 3 have beautiful women, Bogota has the most and probably the best prices.


Are you referring to Brazil in general, or the larger cities like Rio and Sao Paolo? The way people describe the residents of these places doesn't jibe with my experiences with Brazilian expats in the US. Then again, the average Brazilian doesn't live in the US, either. Foreigners who only visit NYC, MIA or LA will have an odd take on Americans that doesn't reflect the general population anywhere, for reasons that any American will understand. Same goes with London versus most of the UK, or Paris versus the rest of France. Large cities don't typically reflect the people of a nation, and they are often unsafe places. I am curious if that paradox exists in Brazil.Well, I've been hanging out quite frequently in Rio, São Paulo, and most of Colombia for over 15 years now.

Though I respect the Woodman's Bogota knowledge and posts, I disagree with his assessment of Brazil.

The people are generally very friendly in Brazil, the women are beautiful, sexy and if you stay away from the known "high end" venues, PFP can be very cheap, not unlike Bogota itself.

Anyway, I love and enjoy Colombia, however, Brazil also has my heart.

Tasss
08-17-18, 07:25
Just wrapped up my first day in Bogota, I'll keep reporting as I have time and interest to do so. I speak minimal Spanish so that gives you some context. Much thanks to the forum and specifically Woodman, Global and Trombone for their specific help. Most of the first day is just logistics, which is also important for newbies.

I'm staying in an AirBNB about 6-7 minutes walk from Santa Fe since that's my main area to explore during this trip. It's girl friendly, a few problems here and there, like no hot water in the shower, but it's cheap. My original plan was to ask girls to walk back to my hotel with me but I learned later that even a 6 minute walk is too far for them so I didn't bother ask. Next time if I come back to Bogota I'd stay in Ibis if I was targeting the Santa Fe area. This AirBNB is also a few minutes walk to the closest ATM and shopping areas. If all these problems don't bother you and money and proximity to SF is #1 then you can message me if you want to know the place.

ATMs are easy to find so no issues there. Schwab card works great and I believe Banco Colombia doesn't charge a fee, which would be reimbursed in any case. First thing out of the airport was to buy a SIM card. There's a small tech accessories store on the second level (departures) that sells them. It was open at 6 am which is when I landed. I wanted 2 GB for 2 weeks and they sold me a 77 k COP plan from Claro. A bit expensive but I couldn't really explain what I needed and don't need. At first I didn't get internet on my phone but the store person later added an APN in my mobile data settings which fixed the problem, so make sure they add that APN info for you.

For transportation to my BNB I originally contacted a driver who offered 32 k to go to Santa Fe from the airport. However during my layover I got a message from him saying he can't make it. Actually I know Uber is cheaper anyway so that's what I opted for as his replacement. However finding the Uber was a bit troublesome. Uber drivers don't have a specific place to pick you up. Apparently there's a parking lot across door 6 on level 1 where drivers go now. Walk out of door 6 and cross 2 car lanes and you'll see the lot. My first Uber tried to tell me about the lot but I was confused by his instructions and he canceled. Second driver was more patient with me and described the lot in more detail, he found me and all was good. Final cost was 25 k COP, a bit cheaper than the private driver.

I didn't feel any altitude sickness but I did kind of feel the air was a bit thinner, making it marginally harder to breathe. Adding lower oxygen and chilly weather to a long flight can make you tired the first day. Now this BNB isn't very conveniently located as I said but I know about the Domicilios.com app which was helpful. I think there's no English interface but the words are short and you can punch them into your translator.

My first impressions about Bogota people, I think they're more used to seeing foreigners, so for me as an Asian guy I appreciate not getting as much attention as I did in Medellin. Maybe also Medellin people look more European and I stand out more. Colombians are friendly in general but I think Medellin has Bogota beat in terms of friendliness.

I wanted to try out both the websites and SF street girls on my first day. Now Medellin has Photoprepagos and Mileroticos as well but I got most of my contacts through FB. So the FB girl experience gave me a certain expectation of service which I hoped to also find in Bogota. I spend a morning looking through PP and ME ads. I don't like doing incall so that limited my options for me. About half the girls don't do outcall at all so I started filtering on "domicilio". I also inquired about BB and as expected most of them don't do it. I know this is a taboo subject but at least know that I did get tested for the most common / dangerous stuff prior to coming. Anyways PP and ME was a lot more work I think than the FB game in Medellin. First you have to ask some girls for their face pictures, then make sure they do outcall to Santa Fe. All the FB girls I added in Medellin do outcall and show their face so that's two things I didn't have to do there. Second, for me at least, the Bogota girls on these two websites were less attractive than the MDE Paisas so that ended up filtering out even more girls. Each to their own of course.

I did find a girl who met all my requirements. Her face was hidden in the ad but she sent a face pic when I asked for it. She came on time, unlike the girls in MDE who are nearly always 1 hour or more late. But when she came it was clear she was using someone else's body photos in her ad. She weighed probably 20 lbs more than I expected. But she was at least friendly. 120 k was her standard quote and 200 k for BB which I neg'd down from 400.

At around 10 pm I went out solo in Santa Fe. I've read all the warnings regarding doing that, but although it was kind of sketchy, I didn't feel it was outright dangerous. I made sure to look around my surroundings to see if people are sneaking up on me in some way. And yes I did pull out my phone to use Google Translate. Anyways, lots of girls ranging from fat to really cute 8's. I talked to 4 girls I think, one didn't want to go my BNB and so that stopped my negotiation right there. Two are willing to go but no BB. The last girl I had to convince for like 5 minutes before she accepted. She offered 100 k for the HR outcall and I offered 200 k for BB. Venezuelan girl from Maracaibo. Her face was decent but once she took off her jacket I saw her body wasn't that great due left over baby fat. Her attitude was friendly but, not GFE at all. She spoke zero English so communication was difficult. Still we made it happen and finished with her.

It's only 1 day but so far Bogota hasn't managed to match what the Mansion and FB girls have to offer in Medellin. Do be aware that I have specific requirements, specific limitations (IE no Spanish), and tastes so everyone will have different opinions. But if things don't improve this will be my first and last trip to BOG.

Tasss
08-18-18, 08:30
BTW I also have reports for newbies and vets on Medellin, Phnom Penh, Angeles City and Shanghai. My report to comment ratio is fairly high for ISG so it's worth taking a look through my posts if you're interested in any of these cities.

On my second day I started by poking through Photoprepagos again. I like it better than Mileroticos because they've got built-in filters for independent providers. Mileroticos is flooded with agency postings and I want to talk to the girls themselves. I had an idea that Venezuelans would be more accepting of the things I'm looking for so I put in a filter for Venezuelan girls + Domicilio (outcall). I saw a posting that was around 9 days old already and hasn't been updated, but I decided to contact her anyway. Her normal rate is 110 k which I assume to be for incall. Through some negotiation she agreed to do BB if she gets paid in dollars, and after some back and forth she accepted 40 USD + 120 k COP which is equal to 240 k COP. When she came I saw that she was taller than average for a South American girl, probably 5' 7". She's 19 years old from Caracas, got a nice thin body with be sized boobs, probably a 7 on the face. She tells me she used to be a clothes model which would make sense. She was a huge upgrade from both the girls I had yesterday. The service was good overall. Learning how to filter PP for fake pictures is going to be beneficial for anyone trying to use it. If the photos look too professionally done and the face is blurred out, then I'm suspicious. Also for guys looking for VZ girls, it looks like bringing dollars could be helpful for negotiation, but I'm not sure if that's true in general. I didn't bring much USD because the Schwab card gives me better exchange rates. Mostly it's used for backup funds, but maybe next time in Colombia I would bring more just in case.

Went to SF at around 11 pm this time. Things were quite active at that time. There was a really energetic and happy looking girl who got my attention. She was also very hot and young at 18 years old. I'd probably rate her face a 9 and she has a near perfect body to go along with that. We negotiated for 200 k for BB at my BNB. Showed her my test documents and she was satisfied. She asked me to pay ahead of time. I hate doing that, and I told her, but she was adamant about it so I had to. But I got great service so it turned out well. She maintained an excellent attitude throughout our session. So the first girl I talked to worked out, which was a pleasant surprise after my experiences yesterday. Hope to find more of the same in SF in the days to come. Attached pic is of her.

I also posted some incorrect info about Banco Colombia earlier. They do charge a fee for ATM withdrawal but they don't show the fee before you make the transaction, which is why I never noticed. Today I finally paid attention to the final screen where they show the transaction summary and the tarifa of 13.2 k is shown. However since their withdrawal limit is 600 k, you get more out of your fee.

The Tall Man
08-19-18, 17:11
BTW I also have reports for newbies and vets on Medellin, Phnom Penh, Angeles City and Shanghai. My report to comment ratio is fairly high for ISG so it's worth taking a look through my posts if you're interested in any of these cities.

On my second day I started by poking through Photoprepagos again. I like it better than Mileroticos because they've got built-in filters for independent providers. Mileroticos is flooded with agency postings and I want to talk to the girls themselves. I had an idea that Venezuelans would be more accepting of the things I'm looking for so I put in a filter for Venezuelan girls + Domicilio (outcall). I saw a posting that was around 9 days old already and hasn't been updated, but I decided to contact her anyway. Her normal rate is 110 k which I assume to be for incall. Through some negotiation she agreed to do BB if she gets paid in dollars, and after some back and forth she accepted 40 USD + 120 k COP which is equal to 240 k COP. When she came I saw that she was taller than average for a South American girl, probably 5' 7". She's 19 years old from Caracas, got a nice thin body with be sized boobs, probably a 7 on the face. She tells me she used to be a clothes model which would make sense. She was a huge upgrade from both the girls I had yesterday. The service was good overall. Learning how to filter PP for fake pictures is going to be beneficial for anyone trying to use it. If the photos look too professionally done and the face is blurred out, then I'm suspicious. Also for guys looking for VZ girls, it looks like bringing dollars could be helpful for negotiation, but I'm not sure if that's true in general. I didn't bring much USD because the Schwab card gives me better exchange rates. Mostly it's used for backup funds, but maybe next time in Colombia I would bring more just in case.

Went to SF at around 11 pm this time. Things were quite active at that time. There was a really energetic and happy looking girl who got my attention. She was also very hot and young at 18 years old. I'd probably rate her face a 9 and she has a near perfect body to go along with that. We negotiated for 200 k for BB at my BNB. Showed her my test documents and she was satisfied. She asked me to pay ahead of time. I hate doing that, and I told her, but she was adamant about it so I had to. But I got great service so it turned out well. She maintained an excellent attitude throughout our session. So the first girl I talked to worked out, which was a pleasant surprise after my experiences yesterday. Hope to find more of the same in SF in the days to come. Attached pic is of her.

I also posted some incorrect info about Banco Colombia earlier. They do charge a fee for ATM withdrawal but they don't show the fee before you make the transaction, which is why I never noticed. Today I finally paid attention to the final screen where they show the transaction summary and the tarifa of 13.2 k is shown. However since their withdrawal limit is 600 k, you get more out of your fee.Must commend you and thank you for these reports. Very helpful to others and your a newbie here. Hats off to you. Looking forward to your more reports.

TTM.

Tasss
08-20-18, 06:13
Must commend you and thank you for these reports. Very helpful to others and your a newbie here. Hats off to you. Looking forward to your more reports.

TTM.Thanks TTM, just giving back what the forum has given me!

For day 3, I wanted to check out an actual Bogota sight. I won't bore you with these details but the Candelaria district is pretty nice and I spent 3-4 hours of the afternoon there.

I think the chilly weather makes me really sleepy and lethargic so I ended up taking a nap and waking up later than I wanted to. Another crawl through SF at 11:30 pm, I think it's less active than if I went earlier, but still many girls around. I offered one girl 200 k BB and she declined and walked away immediately. Second one I offered 200 and later 220 and was rejected. Third girl, while not as pretty as the first two, had a thin body which is what I liked. I think she said she was 19 but looked older, I estimate 23-25. She accepted my offer and we went back to my place. She's a native of Bogota and lives in Tunjuelito which is in the south. I heard that area's kinda lower class so makes sense why she's working here. She says she's normally a transportation worker by day and comes here occasionally. By the way, the taxi ride from Zona Tolerancia to anywhere south of Hotel Ibis should be less than 10 k (for me it's 6 k) so if you're booked anywhere there, make sure you don't overpay.

At my apartment she asked to be paid first. That's the second time in a row I've been asked that. I didn't like it but then I thought it's possible that the local customers who take these girls up to their motels sometimes don't pay, so it makes sense for them make that their rule. She asked to see my test documents which I provided. She also asked for a tip ahead of time, which I thought was awkward, but I said if you treat me well I'll give you some extra. When she took off her bra I realized she had some huge padding in there that made her tits look 3 times as large. Before coming back to my apartment I thought I was going to see bolt-ONS but she had small natural boobs, which I prefer to fake ones. She did a pretty good job, gave me a little strip dance, brief BBBJ and a good ride. She left what looks like a birth control pill in my apartment. One of the two pills from the wrapper was already taken so she must have popped one before our session in case I came inside. I gave her a 20 k tip.

I also figured out how to get hot water from the shower. It looks like there's a device on the shower head that heats water as it passes through, so if you turn the knob high, the device can't heat up the water fast enough and you get lukewarm water. May be helpful info for those looking to book other BNBs and experience the same issue.

I want to point out that this apartment is pretty good once I figured out the hot water thing. Most of the girls commented how clean it is and being close to SF helps convince girls to do outcalls. Thanks to Global00 who also uses this studio for confirming its quality.

Day 4.

Around 10 am I called up the Photoprepagos Venezuelan girl from day 2. Since she told me she was a model earlier I took a chance and asked if she'd do a private video for me. I offered 300 k. She said OK as long as I didn't get her face in there, so I was pleasantly surprised. She came in about half an hour. Obviously we knew better what to expect from each other so it was more comfortable for both of us. She was pretty freaky, twerking her ass while lip syncing to her favorite songs playing on YouTube. She came from DATY and I proceeded to have an excellent GFE session from her. Gave her 20 k for taxi home.

I keep wanting to sleep due to the chilly weather and woke up at 9 pm which is a little later than I wanted. Sundays seem to be an off day for most Colombians. I didn't notice it when I was in Medellin but that's probably because I didn't pay attention. Either that or the El Poblado businesses are touristy and open on Sundays. Well here at least businesses are largely closed except McDonalds other chain / tourist shops. This also means that I should have got up earlier. The original plan was to check out the SF clubs but I thought it was better to wait for another day to do that. Hit SF again at 10 pm but this time I went to the south of Zona Tolerancia around Calle 19 and headed north. Thanks to the FAQs I knew to expect trannies there so I avoided them, hoping to find a gem around the edges of the zone. Unlike in the Philippines the TSs are easy to tell in Colombia. You start seeing actual girls around Calle 20 but none of the girls there are good looking. Possibly the southern end of the zone is the lower-end of the low-end? I don't know if that's true but no one worth talking to during my walk until around Calle 21 and 22. I saw a couple of cute ones around an intersection but neither of them want to do outcall. Walking further north, I saw two girls one sitting on top of the other one's lap having some food. Both are pretty but one was cuter and more energetic so I made my offer, 200 k for BB. She accepted more easily than I thought, which probably meant that my initial offer was more than she would have taken. But anyways, it wouldn't have been a huge savings. Speaking to her some more, she's a 19 year old Venezuelan from Valencia. She's been in Bogota for 2 months. Fuck Maduro but he certainly has made the monger life easier in Bogota. Like the previous VZ girl she doesn't like the cold weather of this city.

Back in my apartment she also asked to be paid first. I got used to it so I just asked her to treat me well. And treat me well she did, lots of kissing, touching, engaging me with small talk. She has an extraordinarily cute face with big anime girl eyes. She made this unexpected comment about how I would like a "morena" girl like her. Well first she's not really a morena as far as I understand the meaning. She's got the typical tan Latina skin. Second maybe she thought Asian guys don't like Latinas, which is totally untrue. She loves cock and asked me to fuck her harder during our session. She took my cock in her mouth at the end of our session and I mistook that for allowing me to CIM, but that wasn't the case and she used her hands to finish. Fair enough. Still that was the most genuine feeling GFE session I had since I came here. 20 k for her taxi, she wanted more but I told her I'd call her again, which I probably will.

Eszpresszo
08-20-18, 16:20
On the subject of altitude sickness, I came across something on the Quito thread that hit me as significant. Sildenafil (Viagra) is medically proven to be useful in dealing with altitude sickness. I'm guessing some of you might have already known this, but I expect others were not aware of that.

I was wondering if it was actually a bad idea to take Viagra / Sildenafil at if you have altitude sickness. But, when it was noted as beneficial on a different thread, I had to google the topic. To my surprise, the clinical evidence supported the idea:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21962063

WebMD had this article on how it was tested in extreme scenarios where elevation was hazardous.

https://www.webmd.com/men/news/20050201/viagra-may-help-severe-altitude-sickness#1.

Iron supplements may be helpful with altitude sickness, as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19809026

Also this article alludes to the use of Nitric Oxide supplements. I am assuming they are referring to L-Arginine supplements. Myself, I take L-Arginine daily, specifically for cardi-vascular health and also because it boosts your performance during workouts. I took a L-Aginine stack with L-Cirtruline prior to hitting the gym this morning. Beet and pomegranate juices also release Nitric Oxide into the bloostream, as well. Technically these can assist with getting a hard-on though they are not going to completely supplant ED drugs. Be skeptical of the hype about pomegranate juice being "liquid Viagra". They work differently as far as increasing blood flow. And there is one caveat to that. Combining Sildenafil with pomegranate juice can possibly result in a dangerous drop in blood pressure. That's because you have two powerful agents that impact your blood flow in your system at the same time, though not necessarily working hand-in-hand.

And then there is the case of the guys who got the hard-on that wouldn't quit:

https://www.t-nation.com/supplements/tip-drink-this-for-stronger-erections

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3355694/

I guess they got the porn stud experience, the hard way (pun intended).

Grapefruit juice also can also impact the effects of Sildenafil:

https://www.health.harvard.edu/family-health-guide/grapefruit-and-medication-a-cautionary-note

Although the article linked about ends with this note: "Sildenafil (Viagra) is of special interest to men. The clinical information is incomplete, but men who take Viagra should be aware that grapefruit juice might boost blood levels of the drug. That could be a good thing for some men with erectile dysfunction, but it could trigger headaches, flushing, or low blood pressure."

While I am off on this tangent, I came across this, as well. This might be of interest to those with diabetes or those who aren't responding well to treatments of Sildenafil.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/489367

Apparently some who don't respond to Sildenafil can get a bit of help with Carnitine supplements. For those who are wondering, L-Carnitine is an non-essential amino acid that is still pretty good to have as a supplement if you are not eating much meat. I try to limit my red meat intake for health purposes. L-carnitine is a regular supplement I began to take as it is also linked to testosterone production (another important aspect of aging). Here another article talks about its practical usage with ED drugs:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16286128

So, while I'm off onto that tangent, here is an overview of what nutritional supplements do assist with erections:

https://www.consumerlab.com/answers/which-supplements-help-with-erectile-dysfunction/erectile_dysfunction/

Fuddzie
08-20-18, 20:49
I'm curious what "test documents " are.

Tasss
08-20-18, 21:13
I'm curious what "test documents " are.My local testing center, operated by the county govt, gives you a stamped piece of paper showing your STD results. I referenced it back on my earlier reports. It looks pretty official (and it is), so it ended up being useful.

JjBee62
08-21-18, 04:35
My local testing center, operated by the county govt, gives you a stamped piece of paper showing your STD results. I referenced it back on my earlier reports. It looks pretty official (and it is), so it ended up being useful.This is actually a note on your trip report, rather than your test results. The sleepiness you're experiencing is likely due to the altitude, rather than the cooler weather.

Global00
08-21-18, 11:45
You are welcome. I will be backing in heaven in a few weeks. Glad you are enjoying yourself!


Thanks to Global00 who also uses this studio for confirming its quality.

AlphaRecon
08-21-18, 23:47
This is my first time in Colombia. I read up on a lot of the trip reports and a big thanks to all the contributors especially Trombone, Bluechange or their intel and insight. Going to Cartagena with a 24 hour layover in Bogota. Staying at one of the Viaggio Hotel in chapinero. I will check out Santa Fe at night. Just need ideas of what to do during the day. Also photopregagos site do you negotiate the standard price that the chicas post on their page or you just go with that price point? If anyone has good cab driver they can recommend will appreciate it while I am in Bogota. Thanks.

Tasss
08-22-18, 19:26
Day 5, went to Mercado de las Pulgas de Usaquen in the morning. It's a nice little flea market and a needed change of scenery from SF. There are some local coffee vendors there, not just people who sell trinkets. So if you're into that sort of stuff, it's a good place to buy the one thing that Colombia is world famous for (other than women and drugs). I thought about taking the TransMilenio home from there but it's really not worth learning the system when an Uber across half the city is 15 k ($5).

Met with Woodman in the afternoon, had lunch and coffee, and went for a short trek through the SF clubs at around 5:30 pm. As it's a Monday and a holiday at the same time, I was told it was slower than usual. But even then there were a decent amount of girls in the streets. My interest level in the clubs was actually maybe 5/10 but since I'm here, I had to go see what it's like inside. We stayed a bit in La Casona. There's a stage but the girls who go up there don't strip. They'll only do so if you pay them. We got a girl with some massive bolt on titties to do a dance for us for 15 k. Full contact, like grinding your face, you grabbing her boobs and licking them, ass and pussy touching, licking the puss. Try that in America LOL. Thought about asking her for takeout, but I had my doubts she'd agree to my terms..[/QUOTE]Yeah probably it's a mix of factors, altitude and temperatures. BTW JjB, your reports and help in the MDE board was really useful for me last year. Thanks for your hard work!

Tasss
08-22-18, 19:40
I forgot to mention, anyone who's here on Aug 21st should have felt the earthquake in Venezuela. My building was swaying slightly. I felt local 4. X earthquakes back home and this was similar, even if the epicenter was 1000+ miles away.

Tasss
08-23-18, 02:09
My earlier report got cut off somehow. Admin please delete my earlier Day 5-6 post if possible.

Day 5, went to Mercado de las Pulgas de Usaquen in the morning. It's a nice little flea market and a needed change of scenery from SF. There are some local coffee vendors there, not just people who sell trinkets. So if you're into that sort of stuff, it's a good place to buy the one thing that Colombia is world famous for (other than women and drugs). I thought about taking the TransMilenio home from there but it's really not worth learning the system when an Uber across half the city is 15 k ($5).

Met with Woodman in the afternoon, had lunch and coffee, and went for a short trek through the SF clubs at around 5:30 pm. As it's a Monday and a holiday at the same time, I was told it was slower than usual. But even then there were a decent amount of girls in the streets. My interest level in the clubs was actually maybe 5/10 but since I'm here, I had to go see what it's like inside. We stayed a bit in La Casona. There's a stage but the girls who go up there don't strip. They'll only do so if you pay them. We got a girl with some massive bolt on titties to do a dance for us for 15 k. Full contact, like grinding your face, you grabbing her boobs and licking them, ass and pussy touching, licking the puss. Try that in America LOL. Thought about asking her for takeout, but I had my doubts she'd agree to my terms.

Getting out of La Casona, Woodman saw a girl he knew, introduced me to her, and helped me negotiate the deal (200 k for BB). Again it took the test docs to convince her. She's another Venezuelan from Valencia. She says she's 21 (looking slightly older though) and that she's been here for a year. Her face may not be everyone's cup of tea but she looked like she has a smidgen of African blood in her. To me it's pretty exotic. I loved her body, and she's got the nicest tits of all the girls I've seen on this trip. Thin girl with tits and ass is always appreciated. Attached is a pic of her. She asked to be paid first as usual. No oral but she gave me a massage and she took a load in her pussy, which more than makes up for it. In the middle of the session she went to go [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and I knew when she came out she didn't wash anything. So I asked her to go back and wash her pussy a bit. Not sticking my dick in that. After our session she asked for taxi home and instead of giving her 20 k like I used to, I just called an Uber for her, which is far less expensive. I gave the doorman the savings as I suspected it was a good idea to do so, and Woodman also recommended it.

For the rest of the night I was too sleepy to do another session and ended up going to bed at 11 or so.

Woodman informed me of Banco Pichincha which allows an 800 k withdrawal with no fee. Unfortuantely the ATMs are not always going to be conveniently located.

Day 6.

I did end up getting a slight temperature. Damn the Bogota weather. Anyways after lunch I called up the hot girl from day 2. Actually the girl doesn't have her own phone and uses her mom's. So when she leaves her home she has no way of contacting me. She also lives in Fontibon, which is somewhat far from SF so there was a long radio silence after she leaves. The chick is weird though. She smokes weed. I don't have experience with it but as far as I know a little bit doesn't mess with your head all that much. But she was beyond that today. She came to my apartment at 5 pm dressed like a hooker, which was awkward not just for me since I have to go down and get her (and pay her taxi). There are also families around and so that must have made them uncomfortable as well. Maybe 9 pm if she came like this it wouldn't be a problem but not 5.

We agreed to 300 k for a personal video, because she was fucking hot, and before we even begin she asked for a tip. Gave her 20 k. The girl has no problems showing her face and pussy on camera, but service-wise she was disappointing. She gave a 30 second BJ and she wasn't getting wet, which made penetration difficult. So I'm like maybe I can use some spit or water to moisten it up and she didn't let me. She also kept pulling away her body as we're fucking for no apparent reason. She'd also just randomly stop when she's riding on top of me. She's like you got to come quick, and it's been only 5 minutes in a dry pussy. I'm like if you can't give me at least 10-15 minutes then it's fine, I'll just finish myself. She's like OK I'll give you half an hour more for 50 k. I thought about it and didn't think it's worth it. She then tries different ways to get me off, like BJ and twerking her ass at me. I guess it sort of worked and I ended up finishing, even though she killed the mood a long time ago.

Before she leaves she grabs all the coins I have on my desk and rummages through some cabinets to see if there's anything she can take. Well there's nothing valuable that's not hidden / locked up so she didn't end up finding anything. Later I found out she stole my wooden comb, just like what happened in the Philippines. These are cheap, all bought from China for like $1-2, but they seem popular with theft-minded girls. Next I was expecting to just give her taxi money to leave but then she goes do you have a knife or gun, because she wants to go to Santa Fe to pick up a friend but she has "enemies" there and she needs to protect herself. I told her a knife isn't something tourists normally bring to a foreign country, and if you really need a knife you can buy one with all the money I gave you. I also told her that she should go buy a phone, which is more important. I think the reason she doesn't have a phone is because she spends it all on marijuana. We find a taxi, I give the driver about 18 k, whatever change I have in my wallet, and she finally leaves, thank goodness. I talked to the doorman after she left and he knew she was high. Gave him 20 k as I did the other doorman. Anyways I'm definitely not asking her back again. Total damage this session was about 360 k.

A few hours of rest afterwards helped me to recover mostly and I called the super GFE Venezuelan from Day 4. I made a similar offer for a video, 40 USD + 180 k COP and we settled for 40 USD + 200 k COP. As I mentioned earlier, USD can be useful for negotiating with Venezuelan working girls. We spent a lot of time on Google Translate trying to get to know each other and showing her some of my own photos, but she was still a bit guarded when it comes to revealing her personal life. Last time she told me she was 19 but based on the age of her kid (9) and when she gave birth to him (15), she was of course a lot older. I didn't really mind though as her body is still in great shape. Also she apparently lives in one of the motels in Santa Fe for 30 k per night. My impression was that these were all short time motels, but I suppose it could easily be used for long term stays as well. This does mean that she has to see at least one customer per day in order to pay for the place. Sex with her is incredibly sweet. She doesn't fuck hard, but she was rode me for at least 10 minutes giving me sexy eye contact and getting herself off, essentially using my cock as a dildo. When I went mish on her, she was like harder harder and moaned loudly. When I went to finished on her stomach, she used her hands to wring out more cum from my cock than I had shot.

After our session she went out to buy cigarettes and I accompanied her. This took like half an hour since everything's closed at that time. There's this little area where all the taxis congregate and there's a street vendor still selling stuff. The urge to smoke is strong for her to go out in the middle of the night in the cold to buy cigarettes. I asked her to sleep over. She tried to, but she tells me she has a cold and needs the medicine she has back at her home. I let her go on her way and paid for her taxi back to SF.

Tasss
08-23-18, 10:59
Day 7.

If you've been reading my reports, I've abandoned the two websites Photoprepagos and Mileroticos. PP doesn't get fresh listings very often and Mileroticos is filled with agencies with no way to filter them out. PP was only good for 2 sessions and one of them had fake pics.

What I've read on the forums about Atunes and Atones confused me so I decided to check out both places in the afternoon to see what the real difference is. I think Routard should clarify this in his FAQ. This is 5:30 pm. My first stop is Atones. This is like a regular strip club. The girls are on average better looking than what you find in the streets but no stunners. Since there's more quantity in the street, you'll find someone you like wherever you decide to pull from. The waiter guy kept saying stuff to me, I assume he's asking me to buy a drink. I didn't think it was worth staying there so I headed out. Atunes, on the other hand has no stage. Imagine a bar with tables scattered around, guys drinking beers and talking to each other or girls. It's brightly lit compared to other places so you get to see the girls' faces better. Most of the girls are kinda hanging around, not doing much. I saw a couple of hotties, but none that made me go like I must have her. I feel Atunes is not ideal for solo travelers since there's no show to watch if you don't find a girl you like. It'd be a nice place to hang out with a friend though while looking around for girls you might be interested in.

Here's my overall impression of the SF strip clubs as compared to the offerings in the countries that I've visited. If you want to see girls dancing on a stage, the better places are Thailand and Philippines. If you want a girl grinding your face with her bare pussy and allowing nips to be sucked while others watch you, then these clubs are good for you. If you always want to take girls back to your hotel, then SE Asia or just take girls from the streets like I've been doing. If you're comfortable with on-premise sex, then these Colombian clubs. I personally like the familiarity and cleanliness of my hotel room / BNB so I always want to take out. In my case I haven't yet found a reason to pull from a club, considering all clubs except Atunes (which isn't really a club) have exit fees as far as I know.

In the afternoon I started searching from SF south (Calle 19) and going north. Selection is better than what I saw the last time I took this route. First girl I asked turns out to be Venezuelan. I'm not purposely looking for VZs, just happens that so many of them work here I guess. She accepted my now standard offer for BB. Actually I offered her 20 USD + 150 k or 200 k and she preferred the USD COP combo. Session went as expected, good body and performance. She took a creampie, which is a nice bonus. She tells me she studied as an engineer back in VZ but many members of her family had to move here. I was thinking she's definitely prettier than 90% of the female engineers in America.

This night I wanted to explore the northern clubs and see what paying 3 x to 5 x the normal SF takeout price would give me. At midnight I got to what I think is El Padrino. Only 5 girls there so I left. A guy inside the club was like I'll take you to another place, which was Club Ibiza. This isn't the SF Ibiza FYI. The guy asks for a tip, I gave him 10 k. Lots of hot girls, about 20-25 with about half of them 8+. I called one girl to come sit with me. She was really hot and speaks a bit of English. Drinks for me and her, I asked her pricing, 160 k for the room and 250 k for her for an hour. I said I'll pay the price if BBBJ is included. She's like no one here does BBBJ. Alright cool. Moving on. 66 k for the 2 drinks. Another guy outside offers to takes me to another club, I think it's called Casanova. Not on the FAQ and WT's map but maybe named something else? He says no need to pay unless you find a girl I like. So sure why not. I get there, place has 25-30 girls, many hotties as well. I call over one of them, asked for pricing and BBBJ option. She says 300 k and no BBBJ, and so I passed and went back to my apartment.

When I went out of the last club the guy says the girls will do BBBJ for extra money once they get into the room. Does anyone know? There aren't many detailed reports about the northern clubs so I'm not clear about what you can get. For me it's not worth 300-400 k to find out. Here's the thing though, even if they did, it's still not worth it in the grand scheme of things. The girls are hot and on average in the clubs I went to perhaps even a level up from the average Mansion girl in Medellin. But the Mansion girls are 150 k with BBBJ. The girls here are not worth double with a potential BBBJ upsell in the room. Maybe if you just want to fuck the hottest girl, regardless of service, then it could be what you're looking for (although from what I understand you should probably go to Russia). Everyone will have different ways of measuring value, but this is my view.

Dangerous encounters

Since I came back around 2 am I didn't think it was too late to check out Santa Fe. I did read the forums about how it isn't safe late night but you never really realize the risks until they happen to you. You see cops around, and you see people around, you're keeping watch of your pockets, and you think you're good, but that's not always true. I went there, stopped at the front of a motel door where 3 women were hanging around. One was younger so I approached her, then decided she wasn't worth taking. Then one of the women besides her came by and grabbed my scarf. I thought she was messing around but she wouldn't give it back. She pulled the scarf (and me) towards her and then reached for my pocket. I slapped her hand away, then she grabbed the frame of my glasses and broke them. I did get my scarf back but lost my glasses as a result. I thought about getting police involved but I wouldn't have gotten anything back. My frames were broken and they weren't going to get unbroken with the police being involved. Neither were there police close enough for me to report them. Since my vision is messed up now I just waved down a taxi, and even as I got in the cab I felt like there was a dude trying to rob me, even though he hasn't reached for anything yet. I think the taxi driver yelled "robar", not sure, but that guy went away.

The broken glasses were cheap backups. So I after I got back to the apartment, I put on my main pair and thought if I walked in the more lighted areas I'll be fine. But before I got to SF I was stopped by two motorcycle cops. They asked to see my passport and obviously we don't carry them around. I showed them a picture of my passport on my phone, and they're like foreigners need to carry identification and a photo isn't enough. I don't know if that's even a real law, and I suspected they wanted me to bribe them. I just remained calm and asked them what do you guys want. After a very very long translator conversation, during which I keep suspecting they wanted money, he says we're just here to protect you from kidnappings and robbery, let's go to your apartment and you can show me the passport. So I went back, showed them the passport and they're happy with it. HM, what's going on? Well maybe they really are trying to do their jobs by intimidating people like me to the point that they don't go back to that area late night. TBH it's better to be stopped by cops than be stopped at knife / gun point. Lesson learned.

So fellow ISGers, SF is fine, but don't go too late and keep the minimum amount of things with you when you go. Consider taking a cheap backup phone if you need to use a translator and only taxi money if you decide to take out. I personally took a portable safe, similar to a "SafeGo", with me since the BNB doesn't provide one.

Sangnyc21
08-25-18, 01:43
Day 7.

If you've been reading my reports, I've abandoned the two websites Photoprepagos and Mileroticos. PP doesn't get fresh listings very often and Mileroticos is filled with agencies with no way to filter them out. PP was only good for 2 sessions and one of them had fake pics.

What I've read on the forums about Atunes and Atones confused me so I decided to check out both places in the afternoon to see what the real difference is. I think Routard should clarify this in his FAQ. This is 5:30 pm. My first stop is Atones. This is like a regular strip club. The girls are on average better looking than what you find in the streets but no stunners. Since there's more quantity in the street, you'll find someone you like wherever you decide to pull from. The waiter guy kept saying stuff to me, I assume he's asking me to buy a drink. I didn't think it was worth staying there so I headed out. Atunes, on the other hand has no stage. Imagine a bar with tables scattered around, guys drinking beers and talking to each other or girls. It's brightly lit compared to other places so you get to see the girls' faces better. Most of the girls are kinda hanging around, not doing much. I saw a couple of hotties, but none that made me go like I must have her. I feel Atunes is not ideal for solo travelers since there's no show to watch if you don't find a girl you like. It'd be a nice place to hang out with a friend though while looking around for girls you might be interested in.

Here's my overall impression of the SF strip clubs as compared to the offerings in the countries that I've visited. If you want to see girls dancing on a stage, the better places are Thailand and Philippines. If you want a girl grinding your face with her bare pussy and allowing nips to be sucked while others watch you, then these clubs are good for you. If you always want to take girls back to your hotel, then SE Asia or just take girls from the streets like I've been doing. If you're comfortable with on-premise sex, then these Colombian clubs. I personally like the familiarity and cleanliness of my hotel room / BNB so I always want to take out. In my case I haven't yet found a reason to pull from a club, considering all clubs except Atunes (which isn't really a club) have exit fees as far as I know..My honest opinion about Santa Fe is the girls working there are the bottom of the barrel girls with bad habits or pimps. It doesn't have to do so much about looks as it does about where they are in life. Based on conversations with 2 working girls I get the sense that girls who work in Santa Fe have either drug habits, pimps etc etc. Obviously not saying all of them are like this but I doubt a semi pro who does this on weekends or when schools off would go to Santa Fe.

Jicks
08-25-18, 06:09
SF is not safe to walk after 11 pm. Why did you walk again to SF after robbery attempt? You can never be complacent in SF, one bad incident can ruin your entire life.


Day 7.

Dangerous encounters

Mr Enternational
08-25-18, 06:40
Dangerous encounters
Then one of the women besides her came by and grabbed my scarf. I thought she was messing around but she wouldn't give it back. She pulled the scarf (and me) towards her and then reached for my pocket. I slapped her hand away, then she grabbed the frame of my glasses and broke them. I did get my scarf back but lost my glasses as a result.That might have been a dude. Women around Santa Fe are not usually that aggressive.


My honest opinion about Santa Fe is the girls working there are the bottom of the barrel girls with bad habits or pimps. It doesn't have to do so much about looks as it does about where they are in life. Based on conversations with 2 working girls I get the sense that girls who work in Santa Fe have either drug habits, pimps etc etc. Obviously not saying all of them are like this but I doubt a semi pro who does this on weekends or when schools off would go to Santa Fe.Other guys that live in Bogota have reported seeing the same chicks in those most expensive casas on the north side, that they have seen in Santa Fe.


SF is not safe to walk after 11 pm. Why did you walk again to SF after robbery attempt? You can never be complacent in SF, one bad incident can ruin your entire life.Never be complacent anywhere. That being said, I have been to Santa Fe wayyyy more times after 11 pm than I have been in the afternoon or evening. And I have been countless times alone and think I have only been 2 or 3 times with someone else. Never seen a problem or had any problems. And like I said before, I walk between there and my hotel downtown. Maybe they just know who to touch and who not to touch. Not that I carry any weapons or anything. I am just a pretty streetwise guy. I grew up around that type of shit.

Tasss
08-25-18, 06:45
SF is not safe to walk after 11 pm. Why did you walk again to SF after robbery attempt? You can never be complacent in SF, one bad incident can ruin your entire life.Walking back to SF after a robbery attempt isn't the mistake. Going to SF late in the first place was the mistake. Suppose someone attempted to rob you there and you never went back because of the single instance, then plenty of people who live in Bogota, both Colombian and foreign, would never go back. As I explained, the risks aren't obvious because I take measures to protect my belongings and physical safety. At that time there are still cops around, I stayed in lighted areas, I watched for people around me and I wasn't drunk. I explained what I did wrong pretty clearly so I don't feel the need to repeat what I already wrote. Don't go to SF late.

Routard
08-25-18, 20:50
Another guy outside offers to takes me to another club, I think it's called Casanova. Not on the FAQ and WT's map but maybe named something else? .

This club is known under different names such as Casanova or Piscina del Norte, but it's the same in an easy to be identified black house.

IronQuinn
08-26-18, 14:50
Hi guys,

I was in Colombia some months back (before I knew this forum existed), up in Santa Marta. I had a great time, and am planning to do some mongering in Bogota. I was reading some of the prices dropped here on girls, and it's quite a bit more than what I spent in SM. My preference is bringing street walkers back to my place, rather than going to houses. On average, I spent 50 k (with a little tip) on street girls in SM, and there was never any negotiating about what they would do. BBBJ was always assumed, it was never an issue. I'm wondering, are the girls a lot more "business-like" in Bogota, and that much more expensive on the street, or is that just found in houses?

BTW, for those curious about current SM conditions: I spent a few nights past midnight, alone, around Calle 10 and never had any trouble. In fact, I actually hung out in one of the prostitute "dens" with several of them just talking, laughing, and looking a pics on their phones. I'm also by no means a big guy, only 5'7", but muscular, in my late thirties, and dressed like I was poor. I would also recommend having at least functional Spanish skills.

Tasss
08-26-18, 18:26
Day 8.

Based on Routard and Woodman's recommendations I went to the Mezzanine up in Usaquen I saw one poster recommend against it though so I had my reservations. Arrived around noon. Not terribly difficult to find. It's in a building right on that intersection. Look for the building as shown in the picture attached. Walk up the stairs and go around to the rear of the shops where you'll see a bunch of numbered doors. It's sort of hidden but if you read Routard's FAQ and look for that building in the pic you'll find it. The selection is really impressive for a small and cheap place. Since there's only like 4 shops, I went through all of them. There's a total of maybe 15 girls to choose from but most of them are attractive. I'd say the the median is about a 7 or 7. 5 which is not that far actually from the 300 k-400 k Norte clubs I visited yesterday. In fact the hottest girls there could easily have worked in the northern clubs. 1 HR massage with sex goes from 80 k to 100 k. I first picked a girl but she didn't do BBBJ. My second choice did for 30 k and I was prepping myself for some half assed massage and mediocre sex. But no this beauty gave me a legit massage which lasted something like 10-15 minutes, and possibly the best and most sensual BBBJ I had since I came here. I mean this girl is like a 9 at least and she had a middle eastern look which made me feel like I'm fucking a Persian girl (using the many Persians living in my city as a reference point). Her body is perfect, thin but not too thin, her skin has no flaws or blemishes. I'm definitely impressed by how much you can get for only 80 k! My main complaint about this place, is the rooms are tiny and so are the beds. This was similar to my low-end casa experience in Medellin. If you're a bigger guy you'd have a hard time staying on I think. The girl agreed to see me outside of work. I asked a bit about her and she says she's a student and a native of Bogota. I dunno if I would strongly recommend it if you're staying in Santa Fe because it takes an hour round trip, but for me it was worth it. If you're staying in Chapinero or further north, I would definitely make a visit.

Didn't do anything more today because I thought an amiga would be joining me this afternoon but she didn't show up.

Day 9.

In the morning at 9:30 am I called up the girl from yesterday and it turns out she's already on her way to work. It didn't seem like it was easy for her to leave early either so I'll have to look at other options.

After some normal sightseeing I went to SF again at around 4 pm. I've been in the mood to pick up a black girl just to get in some variety, but none of those I've seen in SF have been attractive. I was surprised by the low population of black girls working in SF. Knowing they mostly come from up north, I was expecting maybe 1/10 but it was a lot less than that, maybe 1/20. Today there's one who's both young and thin and finally decided to go for it. Put up my standard offer which was accepted. She says she's 18 and comes from Bogota. She looks a bit like Zoe Saldana. I asked where her parents are from, she says one's from Santa Marta, one from Cali. There was a good looking girl working next to her, but I was looking for something specific today. I asked her on the taxi back whether she prefers being called morena or negra, she says negra. It's interesting to learn a little bit about the racial dynamics in a country and how people see themselves. Back at the apartment she asks to be paid first. She's got a good body, has some scars but not bad. Small boobs and nice ass. A lot of black girls have a scent on their skin and she's no different. Session was fine but not one of the more memorable ones on this trip. No kissing, but she did do deep throat, which was one thing that none of the other girls have done on this trip. She insisted on getting both taxi money and a propina which ended up being 40 k extra.

Messaged the mezzanine girl to see if she can come by after her work. I told her before I was in Centro Commercial, but she seemed to have forgotten and now said that area's too dangerous at night. Actually the BNB is in a better part of SF but I realize that the name itself can scare some girls. She said she'd rather come during daytime. Not worth haggling over, so I let her go.

As it's a Friday night, Woodman asked me to join him in an SF run at 7 pm or so. Yeah SF was filled to the brim with girls at that time. There were lots of dudes but there were also way more girls at the same time. The ratio was fantastic on the street and in the clubs, and there's no shortage of hotties. I saw the black girl from 4 pm back at her old place. I was too hungry at that time to take a girl back so I had to go eat something. At 10 pm went to SF again. It died down quite a bit, but the selection was still not bad. For the last 5 or so sessions I've had thin girls with small boobs so this time I wanted a girl with some breasts. It's all about variety. Anyways found a girl kinda hanging out alone, gave her the standard street girl offer which she accepted. In the taxi I asked her where she's from and sure enough, VZ. Is it me or do VZ girls more often have English first names than Colombians? That's the case at least with my picks this trip. Usually breasts do come with a bit of meat on the waist as well and I accept that sacrifice. Her face is really pretty though, she's got brown-blonde hair and green eyes, looks like a more tanned Amanda Peet. I think if she lost 7-10 lbs she'd be really hot. Anyways, doing it for the boobs. Back at the apartment she gives me pretty decent service, not the best, but still very sweet.

Early in the morning my amiga shows up. She spent 3 days on the road from Caracas to Bogota, which was longer than both of us expected. In my head I thought it was a simple Greyhound style bus ride with a stop every few hours but it turns out it's not that easy. For example she had to spend 6 hours at the border, even with a passport, and she can't bring much with her since she has to move between bus stations which requires a lot of walking, sometimes through swampy land. By the time she gets to Bogota, her small luggage was fully of dirty clothes and she hasn't showered for those 3 days. By plane it would have taken her nearly $1000 to get out in between the ticket itself and the bribe money to immigration officials. It really makes you sympathize with what these girls who come here from VZ have to deal with.

Mr Enternational
08-27-18, 01:44
A lot of black girls have a scent on their skin and she's no different.Great report. Is this a good scent or a bad scent?


By plane it would have taken her nearly $1000 to get out in between the ticket itself and the bribe money to immigration officials. It really makes you sympathize with what these girls who come here from VZ have to deal with.A couple years ago I was messing with a Venezuelan hairdresser that lives in Bucaramanga. She said she would take a flight to a Colombian border town then cross over and take another flight to Caracas. She was looking for a ticket on my tablet while we were together. I want to say they were maybe around $200. And I am for sure she did not have to pay immigration anywhere near $800. I guess prices could have gone up by now though. But I can't see how a Venezuelan (inside of VZ) could get their hands on that kind of money these days. I have been friends with a school teacher in Margarita for many years. She has a US visa and comes to the States every couple of years and works during her time when school is out. She had to end up selling her car because she could not even afford a $75 battery for it.

Mr Enternational
08-27-18, 01:49
On average, I spent 50 k (with a little tip) on street girls in SM, and there was never any negotiating about what they would do. BBBJ was always assumed, it was never an issue. I'm wondering, are the girls a lot more "business-like" in Bogota, and that much more expensive on the street, or is that just found in houses?I have always been the same way, but if you notice there are a lot of guys having to pay extra for BBBJ. For me it has just always been standard practice. So maybe it just depends on the guy.

Eszpresszo
08-27-18, 03:49
Day 8.

I mean this girl is like a 9 at least and she had a middle eastern look which made me feel like I'm fucking a Persian girl (using the many Persians living in my city as a reference point)..Where do you live that you have such access to Persian girls (who presumably do bareback as that's your requisite)? I'd like to hear about that place, wherever it is, and I'm sure others would too?

Lalela
08-27-18, 05:18
Hello everyone,

I have read the forum, as well as Routard's excellent guide. Thank you to everyone for their valuable input. This will be my 2nd time in Colombia, I visited Cartagena last year and you can read my report / posts in the Cartagena forum, and I plan to do the same after my Bogota trip.

I will be arriving in Bogota with 2 friends on a Sunday (early morning). Was wondering what are my best options on a Sunday, both daytime and night? Is Santa Fe the best bet? Is Chicas Milenio any good on Sunday? I believe pussy House is closed on Sunday, not sure about La 49?

And then same question on Monday night, where would you guys recommend is the best place on a Monday night? Just want to make sure we start the trip well.

Thank you!

Tasss
08-27-18, 06:00
Where do you live that you have such access to Persian girls (who presumably do bareback as that's your requisite)? I'd like to hear about that place, wherever it is, and I'm sure others would too?My post just references the facial features of the mezzanine girl in that context, so you don't need to fuck Persians to compare their faces to certain Colombiana faces. BB isn't a prereq either. If you find out where to fuck tons of Persian working girls, let me know too.

Woodman09
08-27-18, 06:16
Where do you live that you have such access to Persian girls (who presumably do bareback as that's your requisite)? I'd like to hear about that place, wherever it is, and I'm sure others would too?Speaking of Persian girls here is a nice 18 yo Iraqi in LA. I shot her for a girly magazine about 12 yrs ago.

Tasss
08-27-18, 17:22
My 2 cents on Medellin vs Bogota. For some context I've only been to MDE and BOG once each time. I've had FB, Mansion, casa and toured the streets (but not taken them) in MDE. In BOG, I've done mostly SF street girls, a couple of website girls, and toured the northern clubs. However I think it's enough to form a rough opinion of the two cities.

Medellin pros.

1. Better weather. It's something you don't normally think about but climate (or altitude) can affect your libido and energy levels. In MDE I felt pretty good everyday except when the girls tire me out. In Bogota, sometimes by early afternoon I'm already really sleepy.

2. Hotter girls on average. This is based on personal tastes but I like the paisa look. Bogota has hot girls too, it's just that on average a good looking paisa is going to be cheaper where they come from. What this really translates to is that Medellin will have the better value for your money in the middle of the pricing spectrum, like from 150 k-200 k.

3. The Mansion. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but people who like the Mansion really like it and come back again and again. Instant access to good looking if not stunning girls right on premise, friendly staff to help you out, socializing with like-minded guys, good location with lots of conveniences around and safety.

4. FB scene. FB means that you get to see a lot of the girls' real pics before you decide to call her up. Even though you spend more time building up an FB list, the results are better than using Photoprepagos and Mileroticos.

5. Friendlier people overall.

Bogota pros.

1. Better value on the low end. This is the one thing multiple people told me about, even when I was in Medellin, and Bogota didn't disappoint from that perspective. Low end doesn't mean low quality, just means what you can get for under 100 k or sometimes 50 k. Because of the sheer quantity of girls working in Santa Fe, and the Venezuelans, you can get some very good looking girls for like $15. When I went through Vera Cruz in Medellin, there definitely weren't as many choices. My average session in Bogota was probably 75 k-100 k cheaper than in Medellin and I didn't have to sacrifice significantly in quality.

1. 5 Venezuelans. This really isn't a pro all by itself but if you want VZ girls, it's easier to find them in quantity in Bogota. They mostly don't look much different from Colombians, so it's not really a selling point for me. But for some people it might be.

2. (Probably) More options on the high end. The northern clubs seem to be packed full of 8-10's. But be prepared to pay more also. I know Medellin also has stunners, but I believe there's more in Bogota.

3. Internet girls are not as late. Probably depends on where you stay, but when I was in Mansion, the FB girls would almost always be 1-2 hrs late. Bogotanas seem to be more time conscious.

I didn't really have strong opinions on the clubs and casas, but they seem to be pretty similar based on what I saw, only that Bogota has more quantity of everything.

Since I have the budget to pay for midrange, I like Medellin a little better. The weather really helps as well. Bogota is a very strong contender though and probably worth another visit at some point.

JjBee62
08-28-18, 01:53
My post just references the facial features of the mezzanine girl in that context, so you don't need to fuck Persians to compare their faces to certain Colombiana faces. BB isn't a prereq either. If you find out where to fuck tons of Persian working girls, let me know too.Not a ton, but you can find several Persian girls working in Toronto.

JjBee62
08-28-18, 02:09
Bogota pros.

1. Better value on the low end. This is the one thing multiple people told me about, even when I was in Medellin, and Bogota didn't disappoint from that perspective. Low end doesn't mean low quality, just means what you can get for under 100 k or sometimes 50 k. Because of the sheer quantity of girls working in Santa Fe, and the Venezuelans, you can get some very good looking girls for like $15. When I went through Vera Cruz in Medellin, there definitely weren't as many choices. My average session in Bogota was probably 75 k-100 k cheaper than in Medellin and I didn't have to sacrifice significantly in quality..While MDE can't compete with Santa Fe, I believe you made a very common mistake when walking the streets in Medellin. You missed most of the girls by looking at only the obvious. Veracruz is only one block and Raudal isn't even half a block. Definitely not a lot of area. Even if you add in a couple of areas on the other side of the metro, 1 which has a lot of trannies, you're still only talking about 2 blocks and 1/2 a block is either a sausage pit or not a very safe area.

However, just a block east of Raudal there are 2 blocks filled with bars and most of the bars are filled with girls. No cover, cheap beer and plenty of options. Plus, you can sit down and spend some time before making a decision. The girls start coming in early afternoon, so you don't have to wait until the zombie apocalypse starts.

Tasss
08-28-18, 02:48
While MDE can't compete with Santa Fe, I believe you made a very common mistake when walking the streets in Medellin. You missed most of the girls by looking at only the obvious. Veracruz is only one block and Raudal isn't even half a block. Definitely not a lot of area. Even if you add in a couple of areas on the other side of the metro, 1 which has a lot of trannies, you're still only talking about 2 blocks and 1/2 a block is either a sausage pit or not a very safe area.

However, just a block east of Raudal there are 2 blocks filled with bars and most of the bars are filled with girls. No cover, cheap beer and plenty of options. Plus, you can sit down and spend some time before making a decision. The girls start coming in early afternoon, so you don't have to wait until the zombie apocalypse starts.I separated the girls in the clubs in a different category. The club girls can be low-end, if you do the deed in the club, or they can be mid-range if you take them out due to the exit fee. So I didn't bother to include them in either range. Similarly, I didn't include the Bogota club girls in either range.

ThadMax
08-28-18, 03:26
"2. (Probably) More options on the high end. The northern clubs seem to be packed full of 8-10's. But be prepared to pay more also. I know Medellin also has stunners, but I believe there's more in Bogota."

I'm planning a trip to Bogota this year and will only be there for a limited amount of time. And just want to get right to the 8-10 talent crop (even if I have to pay a bit more than seasoned local mongers). Which northern clubs are packed full of 8-10's?! Sounds like heaven to me LOL.

Tasss
08-28-18, 04:22
I separated the girls in the clubs in a different category. The club girls can be low-end, if you do the deed in the club, or they can be mid-range if you take them out due to the exit fee. So I didn't bother to include them in either range. Similarly, I didn't include the Bogota club girls in either range.Ooops I misread your post Jjb. You're talking about girls in bars and not clubs. My mistake. I wasn't aware of the bar areas there. Good to know.

JjBee62
08-28-18, 11:44
I separated the girls in the clubs in a different category. The club girls can be low-end, if you do the deed in the club, or they can be mid-range if you take them out due to the exit fee. So I didn't bother to include them in either range. Similarly, I didn't include the Bogota club girls in either range.And now you're confusing clubs with bars. There are 8 or 9 clubs in El Centro, typically 80 k on site. There are also 30 or more bars, although 1 or 2 are trying to be discos. Just regular little bars, some with only a few tables. No stage, no stripper pole, completely open to the street. Inside there might be 1 or 2 girls, or there might be 10-15, depending on the size of the bar. Maybe a couple have an on-site room, most of them don't. No exit fee that I'm aware of and mostly in the 30-50 k range.

This is the part of El Centro that nobody reports on. Most guys visit the casas, go to 3 of the clubs and maybe walk through Veracruz and Raudal. They miss half of the options, because they aren't as obvious.

I'm sure Bogota has the same and lots more of it.

Tasss
08-28-18, 16:36
"2. (Probably) More options on the high end. The northern clubs seem to be packed full of 8-10's. But be prepared to pay more also. I know Medellin also has stunners, but I believe there's more in Bogota."

I'm planning a trip to Bogota this year and will only be there for a limited amount of time. And just want to get right to the 8-10 talent crop (even if I have to pay a bit more than seasoned local mongers). Which northern clubs are packed full of 8-10's?! Sounds like heaven to me LOL.Check Routard's FAQ. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ.

You won't have a problem seeing super hot girls once you arrive in that general area and there'll be "friendly" guys showing you where the clubs are as well.

PasionUruguay
08-28-18, 18:20
For anyone who's in Bogota or Medellin on the 30 of August Colombia will be celebrating it's first "Motel Day". It's just a commercial name to try to advertise an App, but. A bunch of well known motels will be offering discounts in rooms, gifts, and added time to your stay. We made a more detailed article here https://pasionprepagos.com/dia-del-motel and also listed our Top 2 motels at Bogota (not expensive ones, but ones with good rooms or service).

The Tall Man
08-28-18, 23:01
And now you're confusing clubs with bars. There are 8 or 9 clubs in El Centro, typically 80 k on site. There are also 30 or more bars, although 1 or 2 are trying to be discos. Just regular little bars, some with only a few tables. No stage, no stripper pole, completely open to the street. Inside there might be 1 or 2 girls, or there might be 10-15, depending on the size of the bar. Maybe a couple have an on-site room, most of them don't. No exit fee that I'm aware of and mostly in the 30-50 k range.

This is the part of El Centro that nobody reports on. Most guys visit the casas, go to 3 of the clubs and maybe walk through Veracruz and Raudal. They miss half of the options, because they aren't as obvious.

I'm sure Bogota has the same and lots more of it.You let out my little secret, jajajaja, over the past 7 or 8 years I got tired of the casas, got tired of the high end places like Fase Dos and Isla blah blah blah and really enjoying the small bars that you point to, don't get me wrong I have shagged my share of 8's and 9's and 10's but nowadays like the real girls to party with and party I have.

The Tall Man.

Tasss
08-29-18, 16:25
And now you're confusing clubs with bars.Yep I re-read your post after my first reply and realized you were talking about some bars that no one has mentioned in the MDE forums. Good to know for my next trip there. Hopefully these girls are good looking.

I mostly followed WT's map while I was there. He's got one bar icon east of Raudal so I didn't think too much of it, but what you're saying is that it's more than just a single bar. Attached is the map screencap.

The Tall Man
08-29-18, 23:17
Yep I re-read your post after my first reply and realized you were talking about some bars that no one has mentioned in the MDE forums. Good to know for my next trip there. Hopefully these girls are good looking.

I mostly followed WT's map while I was there. He's got one bar icon east of Raudal so I didn't think too much of it, but what you're saying is that it's more than just a single bar. Attached is the map screencap.Yes there are a few dozen in these few blocks. Since the start of this year I have spent considerable time in these bars. You never know what you will find, jejejejeje.

The Tall Man.

Mr Enternational
08-30-18, 03:26
And now you're confusing clubs with bars. There are 8 or 9 clubs in El Centro, typically 80 k on site. There are also 30 or more bars, although 1 or 2 are trying to be discos. Just regular little bars, some with only a few tables. No stage, no stripper pole, completely open to the street. Inside there might be 1 or 2 girls, or there might be 10-15, depending on the size of the bar. Maybe a couple have an on-site room, most of them don't. No exit fee that I'm aware of and mostly in the 30-50 k range.

This is the part of El Centro that nobody reports on. Most guys visit the casas, go to 3 of the clubs and maybe walk through Veracruz and Raudal. They miss half of the options, because they aren't as obvious.

I'm sure Bogota has the same and lots more of it.Only thing is that in most of the Medellin bars (DeGrieff area) the chicks do not go with you. They are only there to get paid to talk and dance with you. That is the Mexico style as well. Now I have fucked chicks at the small bars on the corner of DeGrieff (have to go to the short time room next door), but the bars on the straight away only do the dancing setup. In Santa Fe in Bogota I have fucked chicks from the bars upstairs in the rooms.

JjBee62
08-30-18, 03:35
Yep I re-read your post after my first reply and realized you were talking about some bars that no one has mentioned in the MDE forums. Good to know for my next trip there. Hopefully these girls are good looking.

I mostly followed WT's map while I was there. He's got one bar icon east of Raudal so I didn't think too much of it, but what you're saying is that it's more than just a single bar. Attached is the map screencap.I added some lines, bars are all on these streets.

Woodman09
08-30-18, 08:47
Only thing is that in most of the Medellin bars (DeGrieff area) the chicks do not go with you. They are only there to get paid to talk and dance with you. That is the Mexico style as well. Now I have fucked chicks at the small bars on the corner of DeGrieff (have to go to the short time room next door), but the bars on the straight away only do the dancing setup. In Santa Fe in Bogota I have fucked chicks from the bars upstairs in the rooms.That sounds interesting, I think there are bars like that with hostesses in the downtown area on Carera 11 between 15th and 19th. I walk through a lot and I have noticed these bars with a lot of girls that seem to just be there. Also there are actually hookers in the San Victorino plaza during the work day and I know there is a casa in an office building nearby on Carera 10 just above 14th st on the NE corner.

The Tall Man
08-30-18, 17:58
Only thing is that in most of the Medellin bars (DeGrieff area) the chicks do not go with you. They are only there to get paid to talk and dance with you. That is the Mexico style as well. Now I have fucked chicks at the small bars on the corner of DeGrieff (have to go to the short time room next door), but the bars on the straight away only do the dancing setup. In Santa Fe in Bogota I have fucked chicks from the bars upstairs in the rooms.My experience in Medellin DeGrieff bars is a bit different than yours, yes a number are firm at only drinking and dancing, but once they get to know you a bit and see your cool and fun anything is possible.

The Tall Man.

DcMan1
08-31-18, 19:28
Hi,

First time in Bogota. Just need a 8/10 place on Sunday please. Just have that night after 6 pm.

Thank you all.

Inward00
08-31-18, 22:31
I have been browsing this thread for the past couple days. I am heading to Bogota on Sunday for 8 days. How safe is Santa Fe during the afternoon. I have seen what some people write that its fine while others not so much. I am clearly not Colombian and will stand out. I have very little Spanish skills besides very basic and random words I remember from Spanish in school. I am extremely street smart and know how to keep my head down and keep moving from some days I am not proud of, but I know that means little to nothing when a situation arises. I would like a tour but I can't get a membership here to private post. I am a young male 5'8". I am going to check out some of the other places mentioned here. I want to go to Santa Fe to see it, but just don't know if I should. Just looking for some thoughts. Thanks.

World Travel 69
09-01-18, 15:08
Carrera 14 # 81-34, a block from C. C. Atlantis. Rates: __k. Tel: 621 8188. Fax: 618-4279. Email: reservas@saintsimonbogota.com https://www.hotels.com/ho364754/hotel-saint-simon-bogota-colombia/?dateless=true.

Sometimes they do not answer emails.

Located in a good shopping area.


Hi,

First time in Bogota. Just need a 8/10 place on Sunday please. Just have that night after 6 pm.

Thank you all.

Eszpresszo
09-01-18, 18:26
I'm in Bogota now pecking this off on my tablet. So I will be brief. Went to Chicas Melenio on Calle 71 last night after 9. Place was full and rocking. More of a party house than traditional casa. Decent lineup maybe 9 girls free. I was sitting next to a Colombian dude who spoke some English. He was sitting with a trashy branca Brazilian who he said was his girlfriend. He told me the price per hour was 80 k. I chatted with tall slender Venezuelan and wanted to take her to do the deed. She quoted me 150. No way. My acquaintance intervened and chatted with in Spanish. He them confirmed what she asked and kindly got one of the managers to come over because he felt the price quoted was all wrong. Manager lady confirmed the price at that time was 150 k. My acquaintance explained he was charged less because he earlier. I wasn't buying that. So I chatted a bit with my new friend while the Caracas babe drifted into conversation with her gal pal, another Venezuelan. My new friend said good night, kissed the branch and left and I looked at the Brazilian. She wasn't pretty but her lingerie was off the map and body was awesome. She walked across the room and back and I could see she had the best body in the house. She sat down next to me and told me that guy wasn't really a boyfriend and she was free. I couldn't resist, ripoff or not. We settled on an hour for 150 k and went to the desk where a different manager sat. This manager said it was 180 for sexo! I protested that was not what I was told. She came back with 160 k for half an hour. And I just said, Basta! Basta! That branca was sexy as hell and I really wanted to be with her. But if I agreed to 180 they would probably raise the price again before we hit the room. I headed to the door and was surprised when they didn't pitch a counter offer, and that was it. I guess they couldn't lose face then or just didn't want to do the right thing. Either way, avoid this place. I had a better experience this morning across the street at Chicas 2000 where the price are posted on the wall in big letters. 35 for medio and 70 una hora! I will give a full report later when I get back but I suggest you avoid Chicas Melenio for now.

Global00
09-03-18, 19:54
I'm not really going to go into too much detail about my weekend. My previous reports on Bogota is the same information. I went to Mezzanine for the first time. It was ok. Everything previously reported is correct. It's across from a gas station. You walk up the stairs and there are about 4 separate massage parlors with 3-4 girls in it. Each parlor they try to lure you in. You go into the parlor then to a tiny room with a massage bed and they do the presentation. It was 80 k for sex 40 k just for the massage. Age range from 20-30, Blanco to indo, a few spinners (one very pretty) to a few older and chubby women. They are all very nice but I wasn't interested.

On Sunday, chica 2000 and chica mileno were closed. I went to both on Saturday as well but wasn't impressed. I also want to tantra and didn't see anything I wanted.

Most of my damage was done in Sante Fe or as I call it Santa VE (For Venezuelan). They dominant the scene now. All the girls I sessioned with say they just got there less than 30 days. And I was just there a month or two ago and I saw a bunch a new face. I had some real food sex for 80 k or less. I paid 80 k to a few that offered anal. All were under 23. The last girls pussy was so my dick is still sore 24 hours later. Alot of the girls I found were in Atunes. I never sessioned here before even though I always check it out. I found a few natural big asses in there. Bogota never disappoints me. I've attached some of my ass pics that I collect and try to post on every report. To all my ass lovers enjoy!

Gropai
09-04-18, 03:48
I know atunes is open in the afternoon. Are there any other clubs that are open during the day in Santa Fe and Chapinero?

Global00
09-04-18, 17:26
Look up Routads FAQ. It will give you an overview of Bogota.


I know atunes is open in the afternoon. Are there any other clubs that are open during the day in Santa Fe and Chapinero?

Tricksta
09-04-18, 19:02
Does anyone know if swinger club Monasterio is still in business and doing the reverse gang bangs? I was trying to find out for a possible trip there during week of Sept 9. Routard recommends going to Vivian's twitter at https://twitter.com/vivianasanta18 to stay updated on Monaterio but when I do that, things are very unclear. The biggest thing is that it doesn't look like Viviana is with Monasterio anymore. She seems to be promoting a place called Club Clandestin, and Club Clandestin seems to have a different address than Monasterio. Any clarification of what is going on with Monasterio now and, more importantly, where is best place to go for the reverse gang bangs that Monasterio used to do every couple of months?

Eszpresszo
09-05-18, 05:08
On Sunday, chica 2000 and chica mileno were closed. I went to both on Saturday as well but wasn't impressed. I also want to tantra and didn't see anything I wanted.Really? What time did you go? I passed them both on Saturday evening. William, the dude who minds the door at Chicas 2000 told me they would be closed on Sunday. But, I walked past Milenio on Sunday and the same dude who is usually out front of Chicas Milenio was standing there with another guy on Sunday morning. I stayed within a few blocks of those places, so I passed them several times this past weekend. I went by Tantra as well, on Saturday. About how many girls were available when you visited each one respectively? Just curious.

Routard
09-05-18, 14:16
Does anyone know if swinger club Monasterio is still in business and doing the reverse gang bangs? I was trying to find out for a possible trip there during week of Sept 9. Routard recommends going to Vivian's twitter at https://twitter.com/vivianasanta18 to stay updated on Monaterio but when I do that, things are very unclear. The biggest thing is that it doesn't look like Viviana is with Monasterio anymore. She seems to be promoting a place called Club Clandestin, and Club Clandestin seems to have a different address than Monasterio. Any clarification of what is going on with Monasterio now and, more importantly, where is best place to go for the reverse gang bangs that Monasterio used to do every couple of months?Yes, Viviana is not runing anymore Monasterio since a couple of months. I haven't been back to Monasterio since then, as the new owners do not care so much about hygiene (don't change water of the jacuzzi and so on). I cannot comment anymore about Monasterio if it's still going on. Viviana is using a couple of days a week a place in Chapinero, but best is to check on her twitter as it is not regular. If there is again an inverse gangbang, she will advertize it on her twitter, but there haven't been any since she left Monasterio.

Global00
09-06-18, 21:43
I believe it was around 1:30 pm on Sunday when I went to Chica Mileno and Chica 2000. They were closed. On Saturday, I went to Tantra around 4 pm on Saturday. There was around 12 girls there when I went. Mostly Venezuelan.


Really? What time did you go? I passed them both on Saturday evening. William, the dude who minds the door at Chicas 2000 told me they would be closed on Sunday. But, I walked past Milenio on Sunday and the same dude who is usually out front of Chicas Milenio was standing there with another guy on Sunday morning. I stayed within a few blocks of those places, so I passed them several times this past weekend. I went by Tantra as well, on Saturday. About how many girls were available when you visited each one respectively? Just curious.

KingAmongKings
09-06-18, 22:01
Just left Venus club. Got with a sexy little Venezuelan. 20 yo. Tight body. 50 mil pesos. I was caught off guard that a Corona was 17 mil pesos! Just a warning for fellow mongers. Anyways Venus club feels relatively safe for Santa Fe. And most of the guys that work there are very friendly. My Spanish is not great though so I just gave a nod. Not sure what they were saying LOL. But I would not walk around this area too much. Just get your taxi to drop you right in front. Good luck guys!

Eszpresszo
09-06-18, 23:41
I believe it was around 1:30 pm on Sunday when I went to Chica Mileno and Chica 2000. They were closed. On Saturday, I went to Tantra around 4 pm on Saturday. There was around 12 girls there when I went. Mostly Venezuelan.12 girls at Tantra? Spa Tantra on Cr. 20 a? What was wrong with the lineup at Chicas 2000 on Saturday? When were you there. Just curious.

EvaElite
09-07-18, 15:29
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EvaElite
09-07-18, 16:02
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Kelso1
09-07-18, 18:24
Does anyone know if swinger club Monasterio is still in business and doing the reverse gang bangs? I was trying to find out for a possible trip there during week of Sept 9. Routard recommends going to Vivian's twitter at https://twitter.com/vivianasanta18 to stay updated on Monaterio but when I do that, things are very unclear. The biggest thing is that it doesn't look like Viviana is with Monasterio anymore. She seems to be promoting a place called Club Clandestin, and Club Clandestin seems to have a different address than Monasterio. Any clarification of what is going on with Monasterio now and, more importantly, where is best place to go for the reverse gang bangs that Monasterio used to do every couple of months?What is a reverse gang bang?

I have been around the block a few times, but never heard of that.

Whatever it is I'm sure I would like it.

Thanks in advance.

Global00
09-07-18, 22:07
12 girls at Tantra? Spa Tantra on Cr. 20 a? What was wrong with the lineup at Chicas 2000 on Saturday? When were you there. Just curious.Yes sir. Tantra Spa Cra. 20 a #72-30. There were about 12 girls I believe. The line up at Chicas 2000 was just ok. I sessioned with one girl before and it was shitty service and she was there. There were about 5 girls there I believe. Nothing really wrong wtith the others but I just wasn't interested in what I seen. It would have been around 4 pm after I left and walked down from Tantra. I also want to Chicas Mileno. There were 4 girls there at the time. There was one I liked because she had what seem like a nice natural butt. But another guy called her before I did. So, I left. I have been to all 3 many times. Every time I go to Bogota I check out what is there. I was in Bogota from 9/1-9/3.

I.

Eszpresszo
09-08-18, 00:15
Yes sir. Tantra Spa Cra. 20 a #72-30. There were about 12 girls I believe. The line up at Chicas 2000 was just ok. I sessioned with one girl before and it was shitty service and she was there. There were about 5 girls there I believe. Nothing really wrong wtith the others but I just wasn't interested in what I seen. It would have been around 4 pm after I left and walked down from Tantra. I also want to Chicas Mileno. There were 4 girls there at the time. There was one I liked because she had what seem like a nice natural butt. But another guy called her before I did. So, I left. I have been to all 3 many times. Every time I go to Bogota I check out what is there. I was in Bogota from 9/1-9/3..Interesting. I imagined the place being smaller as Routard's latest FAQ sheet summarized it as a massage parlor with only 5 girls. I passed it many times as I was staying on the next block up at Hotel Casa Guillermo. I didn't ever notice anyone out front or anyone coming and going. Though I did see motorcyclists, with helmets on ringing at the door with what looked like a delivery (lunch, dinner?) So, I wasn't sure it that was the right place or night. Saturday night, right at 9 PM I walked past it when I assume it was supposed to close (I was en route to Pussy House). At the witching hour two girls (and only two girls) popped out of the door and appeared to be saying their farewells to each other, when they saw me looking over at them as I walked past. They bolted off in different directions with one heading up the block and hooking a right on Calle 72 a while the other hooked a left on Calle 72 in a dead run. By the time I got to the end of the block, I saw one of them already trying to cross over Cr. 20. I have no idea what spooked them, as I was just walking by. Maybe they were being stalked by a very tall, lanky gringo? In any case, I decided it wise not to visit the place, as there was no telling what those girls would do if they had no place to run to. Saturday was a busy day for me. I'll write a full FR and post here in a bit.

DreamCarnarvon
09-08-18, 02:04
My only visit to Colombia so far was in 2013 (Bogota and Medellin). On average, the sessions with the chicas were so-so, so I stuck with Rio instead. Fast forward to 2017, I was flying to Rio with Avianca with a stop over in Bogota. The minute I stepped inside the terminal I was in ass heaven and so I told myself I need to revisit Colombia. Fast forward again to present, I'm planning a 2 month long trip to Colombia in October and November. But I'm hella disturbed by ISG member reports (R The Man, Tasss) of having to pay extra for services once in the bed. I guess I got spoiled by the Brasileiras who all do BBBJ without hesitation & without asking for extra. But kissing? Really? My annoyance is not about the price of the extra. I mean kissing is an essential part of sex (at least for me). Sex is not sex without kissing! And when I say kissing I mean DFK with lots of saliva, tongue sucking, lip sucking and biting. Kissing is more important to me than BBFS. I've read here that Colombians give the best GFE but how can that be true when they don't even provide kissing for free? Maybe this is a YMMV thing or maybe they don't feel comfortable kissing a total stranger for the first time. Well I guess I will find out once I'm on the ground. But if this is the norm then it will definitely kill the tension & my libido and I'll have to try somehow meet and date non-pro. That will be a more of a challenge since: a) my Spanish is not as good as my Portuguese (which is so-so), b) I don't have much "game", c) I'm Asian.

OK, thank you to all who read my mindless rants. Now for a bit of story telling. Back in 2013, the best session I had was with a casa chica in Medellin (I think). I don't remember the name of the casa but it was one of the more upscale ones. I do remember I had to take the metro and walk pass a sports stadium to get to it. Anyways, I believe I fucked two chicas from that casa. One was them was just so-so. But the other one was super cute and a total sweetheart. She gave me a great and memorable GFE session. She gave me her number but at the time I didn't have a phone and it was towards the end of my trip so I never saw her again In Bogota on the same trip, I met this student who was the server in a local working class restaurant who spoke broken English (my Spanish was basically zero at the time). On the second visit, I asked her after her shift ends if she is willing to meet me afterwards. She said yes. So I returned to the restaurant later on to meet her and all the Colombians where having good hearted laugh at us LOL. We went to a mall nearby and I bought her some ice cream and we took some pictures with my digital camera. She told me that because she was with me, everyone think she's Asian and not Colombian. We then walked towards my hotel and stopped on the way to listen to a band that was playing Brazilian music out in a plaza. Then she walked with me all the way into the hotel lobby, we exchanged emails, hugged each other and she left. I didn't invite her up to my room because she was not my type, plus I don't think she was that kind of a girl. Fast forward to 2017, on the plane flying from El Salvador to Bogota, I was approached by one the flight attendant who handed me a piece of cookie (and no one else) and told me it was some famous food from her city. Later on, as I was about to get off the plane, we chatted again. She asked me where I was going and I told her I was going to Rio. I then asked her if this is her last flight for the night. She replied yes, and I asked if she had any plans. She said she didn't know yet, so I told her to go out for a drink and have fun. We both then smiled at each other and said good-bye. If I didn't have to catch a connecting flight to Rio, I would've asked her out. And who know, she might've rejected me or accepted the offer. At the time I did feel we had a bit of connection. I'm telling these stories not to gloat but to remind myself that I may have a chance to pick up non-pro in Colombia. I know a bit more spanish now but I need to crash hard on spanish like I'm studying for the finals in the next couple of weeks.

Drf1987
09-08-18, 04:49
A reverse gang bang is when there are 3 or more women servicing one guy. I've had a menage with me and two girls but never a reverse gang bang here's hoping one day it happens.


What is a reverse gang bang?

I have been around the block a few times, but never heard of that.

Whatever it is I'm sure I would like it.

Thanks in advance.

Global00
09-08-18, 11:23
Interesting. I imagined the place being smaller as Routard's latest FAQ sheet summarized it as a massage parlor with only 5 girls. I passed it many times as I was staying on the next block up at Hotel Casa Guillermo. I didn't ever notice anyone out front or anyone coming and going. Though I did see motorcyclists, with helmets on ringing at the door with what looked like a delivery (lunch, dinner?) So, I wasn't sure it that was the right place or night. Saturday night, right at 9 PM I walked past it when I assume it was supposed to close (I was en route to Pussy House). At the witching hour two girls (and only two girls) popped out of the door and appeared to be saying their farewells to each other, when they saw me looking over at them as I walked past. They bolted off in different directions with one heading up the block and hooking a right on Calle 72 a while the other hooked a left on Calle 72 in a dead run. By the time I got to the end of the block, I saw one of them already trying to cross over Cr. 20. I have no idea what spooked them, as I was just walking by. Maybe they were being stalked by a very tall, lanky gringo? In any case, I decided it wise not to visit the place, as there was no telling what those girls would do if they had no place to run to. Saturday was a busy day for me. I'll write a full FR and post here in a bit.You should stop by and check it out. All the times that I went to Tantra Spa there were more than 5 girls there. Most are Venezuelan and they are not drop dead gorgeous women but you might find something that you fancy. There is never a lot of people there waiting when I go. This last Saturday, there were two guys waiting and that was most I ever seen. A lot of times guys will be in the room doing the deed or leaving. I like the set up of the place. The rooms are decent nothing special. Each girl I sessioned with was really nice and accommodating. For 45 k, its a good bargain.

Chicas Mileno and Chicas 2000 usually vary with the amount of women they have when I arrive. Chicas Mileno usually have alot more women. Ten and up for sure. Chicas 2000 generally has less than 10. Usually, the women at Chicas 2000 are better looking but also look like they been in the game longer. Chicas Mileno women look more amateur, first timer. I always see new girls there.

JjBee62
09-08-18, 11:32
My only visit to Colombia so far was in 2013 (Bogota and Medellin). On average, the sessions with the chicas were so-so, so I stuck with Rio instead. Fast forward to 2017, I was flying to Rio with Avianca with a stop over in Bogota. The minute I stepped inside the terminal I was in ass heaven and so I told myself I need to revisit Colombia. Fast forward again to present, I'm planning a 2 month long trip to Colombia in October and November. But I'm hella disturbed by ISG member reports (R The Man, Tasss) of having to pay extra for services once in the bed. I guess I got spoiled by the Brasileiras who all do BBBJ without hesitation & without asking for extra. But kissing? Really? My annoyance is not about the price of the extra. I mean kissing is an essential part of sex (at least for me). Sex is not sex without kissing! And when I say kissing I mean DFK with lots of saliva, tongue sucking, lip sucking and biting. Kissing is more important to me than BBFS. I've read here that Colombians give the best GFE but how can that be true when they don't even provide kissing for free? Maybe this is a YMMV thing or maybe they don't feel comfortable kissing a total stranger for the first time. Well I guess I will find out once I'm on the ground. But if this is the norm then it will definitely kill the tension & my libido and I'll have to try somehow meet and date non-pro. That will be a more of a challenge since: a) my Spanish is not as good as my Portuguese (which is so-so), b) I don't have much "game", c) I'm Asian..Anyone who is paying extra for DFK is missing the point. You're asking for a girl to fake passion. Hell, if you want someone to fake passion, get married.

Most of the girls I saw, outside of the casas, I treated as dates. It didn't matter if I met them at a bar, or at my apartment. No rush, no list of requirements, no long negotiations. Those girls, mostly from Facebook, gave me BBBJ about 75% of the time and DFK about 60%.

The casa you're talking about is Energy Spa. I got BBBJ there and DFK 50% of the time. All depends on who you choose. I never pay extra for these things.

I've met 3 Asians in Medellin. Each seemed to do okay with what they were looking for. However, each was looking for different things.

Eszpresszo
09-08-18, 13:22
My only visit to Colombia so far was in 2013 (Bogota and Medellin). On average, the sessions with the chicas were so-so, so I stuck with Rio instead. Fast forward to 2017, I was flying to Rio with Avianca with a stop over in Bogota. The minute I stepped inside the terminal I was in ass heaven and so I told myself I need to revisit Colombia. Fast forward again to present, I'm planning a 2 month long trip to Colombia in October and November. But I'm hella disturbed by ISG member reports (R The Man, Tasss) of having to pay extra for services once in the bed. I was not hit with "upgrades" and "add ONS" In Medellin two years ago. However, last weekend I ran into that at Chicas 2000. One tagged me for 26 k (yes, that is right, 26 k, not 25 k, not 30 k, but 26 k) for kisses above the breasts. Another charged 15 k to suck her nipples, and another 15 k to go down on them. Next stop: Brazil.

Eszpresszo
09-08-18, 14:16
After the fiasco at Chicas Milenio on Friday night, I went across Cr. Caracas and headed towards Pussy House, which is talked about a lot. Once I got there I noticed the club across the street, Las Divas and thought I'd take one for the forum and check it out. There had been some question of whether or not it was open, but I can assure it is live and kicking. The place is not big but it has two levels, that is a balcony level overlooking the main floor. The stage is small but they periodically call all the girls on the stage to dance. Overall it was not a loud as most of the strip clubs, which I appreciate. The girls were not the prettiest overall but there were some hotties there and the quality of dancing was pretty good. Some stripped completely naked but not for long. Las Divas was also the most laid back place I visited, with decent waitstaff and no cover when I went. Beer was 5 k. I ordered a agua mineral because I didn't want to get too tipsy and had drank a bit of the bottle of rum I'd bought at Chicas Milenio (that's another story). The over quality of the girls was okay. I did make eye contact with one, who had light skin, dark hair and warm eyes. I got her to sit next to me, and she said he name was Sofia. I got to the point and asked how much for "sexo". 80 k for an hour. Done, I said. But she said it would be a bit because she had to dance first. We sat and chatted and used a translator on my phone to get through the more complicated stuff. She typed out text slower than any woman I ever met, which later made me think there was something not right about her. After all, when was the last time you saw a woman who could peck out a sentence on a phone in a flash? It was taking this girl a few minutes to peck out a sentence. Anyways, she said she was 28 (she looked younger) and had been dancing "always", since she was 18. That's dedication. Overall she seemed a laid back and serene type girl. Pulled out her boob and squeezed it to tease me and other pleasantries. Periodically she went on stage for a crowded group dance, and then had to excuse herself for a bit. I had to wonder when she got her dance over so we could go do the deed. While she was away, another women, who identified herself as Lorena sat by me. She was a bit overripe but spoke very good English. She asked if I was here for sex, and I said yes. Her response was "Let's go!" But, I had to explain I was already engaged with another, and she excused herself. Sofia came back and I had got myself a beer for me and her. I couldn't see too well in the dim light and all those Colombian notes smaller than 50 k looked like a brown mess to me. I let the waiter sort through the wad of bills (bad idea) to get the money. Next morning, I woke up and expected to have been fleeced by the waiter. But, I counted my money and actually had more cash than I thought I thought I should have had. Got to give the waiter props for honesty. But, Colombians are for the most part, very much on the up and up. If I came away with anything from this trip, it is a greater respect for the good people of Colombia.

But, back to the point of this FR. The hour was getting late and I kept asking Sofia when we were going for "sexo". She said she had to dance first, but she had been on stage a few times already, without taking her clothes off, though. Finally the music was getting to annoy me and I felt a headache coming on. I was out of the mood and finally told Sofia, I was going back to my hotel. She typed this message on the translator app "My love, whatever you write is fine for me. " WTF? I said good night and left and she smiled and just sat there. What was with this girl? Oh wait, I know. She's a stripper.

I walked out on the street and as I passed a hole in the wall cafe next to Divas, (opposite Pussy House) I was accosted by three teenage girls in black leather jackets. One black, one white, and one a loud morena who did all the talking. She said something to me in Spanish though all I could make out was "sexo possible". She and the other girls opened their jackets so I could see they were only wearing minimal bras underneath. She asked me to go with them to "Quarantine" which I think must have been a club to "party". Going to a strange place with three teenage girls off the street? What could possibly go wrong. I said no, thank you and headed back to the hotel. The next night, I went to Pussy House and noticed another teenage girl in front of that cafe, also in a black leather jacket glaring at me very hard as I walked past. That must be the pick up point for rough teenage street girls of questionable age in black leather jackets.

But to summarize Las Divas, I enjoyed the laid back, no hassle environment and cheap beer. It was crowded the night I went there, but I still found a seat on a small divan. I would recommend it for those who want to sit back in a darker place where the music isn't too loud. Though I can't guarantee it won't get on your nerves after awhile.

Eszpresszo
09-08-18, 15:27
I woke up Saturday after a good night's rest and a hard cock. After the dual frustrations of the previous night I decided to give Bogota a second chance. Not that I had any choice. But, I typically get laid with no hassle on the day that I arrive at a mongering destination and Bogota ended that streak. I decided to get something to eat first. I found a panaderia a few blocks down from the hotel and enjoyed a coffee "perico" with a warmed up empanada. With that out of the way I headed in search of poon.

Headed back to 71 a to check out out Chicas 2000. I had a bad experience across the street the previous night and will never return, barring confirmation that it is under new, honest management. So, I hoped my luck would take a turn for the better.

I got at Chicas 2000 around 10 am, shortly after opening. A grungy small guy greeted me as I approached like he knew I was headed there and he already had the door open for me. He was a friendly guy named William and he knew a little bit of English. To get to the actual brothel you have to walk around this partition and make a few turns because there is another dwelling or business next to the brothel, once you past the gate. I sat down on the couch as three girls appeared from three different directions: A negra, a morena and a tiny blanca. Yes, there were only three and they were all quite doable, even if none were striking. I almost chose the negra because she had a tight slender body, though she had a sullen look. I choose the diminutive and retiring blanca. She seemed a bit apprehensive at first, as some of these girls do when unexpectedly faced with 6' 4" gringo but she would relax later on up in the room. William quoted me 35 k for "medio", though it was written plainly on a sign on the wall. I asked how much for an hour and it was double. I'm assuming two hours would be four times as much? Anyways, the young lady, who introduced herself as Catalina took me upstairs and asked me to choose among the three rooms available. I also noticed a bath facility where one could bathe. I choose a dark room to my left and indeed it was comfortably dim though illuminated enough to see the girl's lovely body. Catalina was 20 years old, she said and she looked it. She stripped and I saw she had pleasant curves but no visible baby damage. Her breasts were small with tiny nipples unphased by breast feeding. She seemed a relaxed type and was overall a very pleasant girl. She did emphasize some things up front though. First, anything that happened, would happen with a condom, and that above the breasts was off limits, pointing to her lips as I understood it. Later I found it was an upcharge for anything about that.

With an hour we had time for snuggling, caressing and nuzzling of her small body. I wanted to eat her cookie and she complied. She did however, have some very oversize pussy lips for a girl of her age and maternal status. I had to lick them a bit before they could be parted. Some girls get off on being licked, but Catalina seemed to be faking her moans a bit. Her pussy had no odor nor any taste either but it was a satisfactory dining experience. After she faked an orgasm, I let her put on one of the Okamoto condoms I brought, telling her "Its the Acura of condoms". I emphasized to her that these were super high quality and could be stretched really hard but wouldn't break. I think she got that part and did a good job of getting it on. She started the CBJ and to my surprise did a good job of it. I came close to coming after awhile which is something I never do during a CBJ. I got her to flip over got on top of her, though I should have let her get on top. It was hard getting inside her, and she said her cookie was very small. It was small. I don't know why these girls don't keep lube around, then again its probably for the same reason they only have cheap condoms. Anyways, I was never able to get all the way in and I could see it was uncomfortable for this little girl. I pulled out and asked her to suck me off, and she seemed to appreciate that gesture. She was back on me and finished the CBJ very well. It was the first time I have ever cum from a CBJ, so I give her props for skills. She gave me a wet wipe to remove the condom myself, because she wasn't going to touch it, though. These Colombianas seem to have an aversion to spooge, more so than other girls I've dealt with in other places. We cuddled a bit and when my time was up we got up to dress. As I was about to walk out of the room, she hit me up for 26 k. Not, 25 k, not 30 k, but 26 k. What for? She told me in Spanish I could barely understand that I was only paying for the service. I thought it was some be. S. She was giving me, but what I realized later was that it was a "gotcha" fee for letting my lips over her breasts. She had allowed me to nuzzle and kiss her neck and there was a few mild kissed during our intercourse. Had I known I was going to pay up for those, I would have attempted DFK. I paid her the $8. 75 USD for those few pecks and she disappeared. I headed out and saw a girl standing near the entrance, looking at a lingerie catalogue. She was wearing what I recall was a bikini outfit and she a stem of cherries tattooed between her breasts. I pointed at one item and said, "that would look good on you". She introduced herself as Lis, and she had light skin, dark hair and a look that says "I am a nasty puta". I told her I would be back for her in English and I could see she understood.

DreamCarnarvon
09-08-18, 22:16
I was not hit with "upgrades" and "add ONS" In Medellin two years ago. However, last weekend I ran into that at Chicas 2000. One tagged me for 26 k (yes, that is right, 26 k, not 25 k, not 30 k, but 26 k) for kisses above the breasts. Another charged 15 k to suck her nipples, and another 15 k to go down on them. Next stop: Brazil.Thats really messed up! I'm not sure how I am going to avoid this type shit some of the chicas will pull. I've heard people screen the chicas before their sessions but even that doesn't seem 100% proof, as the chica can refuse / deny once in bed to provide the service they promised beforehand. Any one has a good strategy to minimize this shit from happening?

At Ezpresszo, I'm so jealous of you right now. When are you going to Brasil? I assume you are headed for Rio? I'm planning to go there in December. The brasileiras are some of the best fucks I've ever had. Most (9/10) will let you DFK, DATY & BBBJ without any problem. Even if the girl refuses to provide a certain service, say DATY, its because she genuinely does not want to do it. She will not say, if you pay me xxx extra then you can. She will just flatly refuse you. Now you can certainly try to change her mind by offering her extra. The only exception is anal as most girls will not allow anal sex without extra.

DreamCarnarvon
09-08-18, 22:30
Anyone who is paying extra for DFK is missing the point. You're asking for a girl to fake passion. Hell, if you want someone to fake passion, get married.

Most of the girls I saw, outside of the casas, I treated as dates. It didn't matter if I met them at a bar, or at my apartment. No rush, no list of requirements, no long negotiations. Those girls, mostly from Facebook, gave me BBBJ about 75% of the time and DFK about 60%.
The casa you're talking about is Energy Spa. I got BBBJ there and DFK 50% of the time. All depends on who you choose. I never pay extra for these things.
I've met 3 Asians in Medellin. Each seemed to do okay with what they were looking for. However, each was looking for different things.I totally agree and understand with normal girls (IE not prostitutes) you can't demand them to do some thing since you are not paying them directly for sex service (the sex just comes along with dating and relationship). What I'm referring to are the prostitutes. In their case, you are paying them directly for sex service. Sure there is no formal rule that require all prostitutes when providing sex service that they must include everything. But its annoying and to me, its shitty service. Its even worse when they lie to you beforehand and then refuse to do it once in bed.

Eszpresszo
09-09-18, 02:07
Few details about my trip that will be helpful to others, who are going to Bogota for the first time. However, I have attached of few photos of my travel documents for the sake of credibility.

I took AeroMexico from DFW to BOG via MEX. I got a great fare on a normally busy weekend (Labor Day) from a consolidator called Flyright. I am dubious of such consolidators but, I saw they got very high ratings and took a chance. Sure enough, I was given my reservation number which I could use to access my reservation on the AeroMexico app in less than a day.

That said, I had always wondered why Mexico City was never a hub for travel to South America. Well, I got my answer. MEX is simply not capable of handling transfer flights properly. Aside from being overcrowded with planes, the terminal facilities simply aren't set up to handle simple transfers for international flights. What that means is that you must go through immigration and customs and submit a completed immigration form when you arrive. Yes, you read that correctly. You must go through customs and immigration even if you are just making a connection to another nation. Then you must go through security screening again to get to the international departures. While an additional screening is normal in overseas airports when making a direct connection, at least they do it efficiently in most places. In Mexico City its a mess. They simply are not set up for it. While I never encountered the long lines in MEX, the process was slow and low-tech. That's why you can never make a short connection in MEX. Once past security the waiting area and selection of shops was good. Then even had a 24-hour bar and restaurant at one end of the international terminal. But on both ends, AeroMexico changed the gate while I was waiting and I had to move from one side of the terminal to the other. That said, I don't recommend making a connection in MEX unless it just happens to be a cheap flight (which mine was). And as for AeroMexico, its not a bad airline, but its not a good one either.

Arrival in BOG involved quite a trot to immigration though that is the case with most large international airport. Going through customs took awhile though the line was not long. The screening process is more rigorous than any place I have been to, and this time the immigration officer had more questions than my last trip to Medellin. On the return trip, the lines were very long at immigration and it took over 35 minutes to clear that obstacle. Fortunately, getting my carry-on and my body through the security screening was a snap and the screeners were courteous. But, be warned that getting through immigration can take a while so plan for it on your flight out of the country.

Now for the verification matters. There is unfortunately, a lot of fiction getting posted on all of these forums. If someone spends much of their time posting anything but a field report, I'm pretty certain they haven't been anywhere and are living out their fantasy on the internet. It might seem an unlikely place to present oneself as an "enternational" man of the world, but I've seen people try to do the same thing on internet forums focusing on mutual funds and other truly unexciting topics. Somebody who seems to be spending his entire day (every day) posting commentary can't actually be someone who is actually doing any mongering, can he? Until you actually meet that fellow board member abroad, you really don't know if he is who claims he is. I've only done that with one BM from here so far, and it was great sharing our experiences and getting a tour of the destination (Kuala Lumpur). If you do have a chance to meet up with a BM, do it and you will have someone you can at least trust.

With that said, the least I can do is post photos of my passport stamps, boarding cards for the BOG segments and the receipt for my hotel. Short of making a porn video of my encounters, with my name written across the girls' bodies, I don't know how else to prove I have done what I did. At least I can prove I was on the ground. I wish more people would do this, but I doubt few will. If we were all required to do that when we make trip reports, I expect the number of them would dwindle dramatically. I hope others will follow my lead in the future.

JjBee62
09-09-18, 04:41
I totally agree and understand with normal girls (IE not prostitutes) you can't demand them to do some thing since you are not paying them directly for sex service (the sex just comes along with dating and relationship). What I'm referring to are the prostitutes. In their case, you are paying them directly for sex service. Sure there is no formal rule that require all prostitutes when providing sex service that they must include everything. But its annoying and to me, its shitty service. Its even worse when they lie to you beforehand and then refuse to do it once in bed.Unfortunately, there are too many mongers who spoil things. Met one several months ago and his breath reeked so bad I had to leave the bar. Others are walking around smelling like they haven't bathed in a week. The prostitutes have all run into these guys. So they limit what they offer.

However, if you're clean, well groomed and know how to use a toothbrush, there's a reasonable chance they'll relax some of the restrictions. At least that's been my experience.

Eszpresszo
09-09-18, 14:10
Unfortunately, there are too many mongers who spoil things. Met one several months ago and his breath reeked so bad I had to leave the bar. Others are walking around smelling like they haven't bathed in a week. The prostitutes have all run into these guys. So they limit what they offer.

However, if you're clean, well groomed and know how to use a toothbrush, there's a reasonable chance they'll relax some of the restrictions. At least that's been my experience.True. I remember showing up at the apartments of some "Hobbyhuren" in Berlin, freshly scrubbed and looking like I was ready to take them for a night on the town. When they first set eyes on me, the look of relief was visible. They had no idea what they had signed up for til they saw me and you can tell they had seen some sad cases.

Personally, if I'm not coming directly from the hotel after brushing my teeth, I carry one of those tiny half ounce, travel size bottles of mouthwash that cost a buck or less at Target, Walmart, etc and swish some of it through my mouth thoroughly when I'm approaching the house of ill repute. There is a enough in those for two uses, and I usually carry two or three when I travel, and usually keep on one my person just like I always carry condoms and lubes when I'm on a mongering trip.

However, as I will relate soon in a FR, one girl in Bogota, wanted 15 k to eat her pussy. To pleasure her. I passed. She also wanted 15 k to kiss her nipples (which I did because I just had to suck those). This goes beyond hygiene and the smell of your breath. Its an upcharge. I'd never had a girl charge to go down on her, and I hope that won't be a common surcharge in Bogota or anywhere else on this planet where I chose to monger.

Eszpresszo
09-09-18, 15:58
Day 3.

I got up early, and found much of the area shut down. I would be changing hotels to the something near Santa Fe. So, I decided to do more sightseeing around Champinero. On Sundays, the major carerras in Eastern Champinro are shut down to auto traffic, as are most of the businesses along them. Then the carreras become paths for jokers and bikers. Walking down Carrera 7, I noticed two free concerts, at different locations. They appeared to be sponsored by political organizations. Attendance was heavy and security was tight. Personally I liked the fact that Sunday is a play day there, with businesses shut down and the streets reserved for public activities.

Headed back to the hotel for my 1 PM checkout. I finished packing and called a cab using Tappsi. As with all time I used it, the driver asked for a few mil more than what the app said. This driver even consulted a chart before quoting the price. It wasn't worth arguing over, 70 cents. But, you do get to note that on the app after you finish your ride.

My destination was Hotel San Francisco, an actual large hotel in the CBD, just four blocks from Santa Fe. And I do mean four blocks that are easily covered when you are walking quickly at night. It was a deal at around $23 a night and also walking distance down to Candelaria for sight seeing. The Transmilenio runs out front and there is usually a cab waiting right outside the back door. Also a quick cab ride to Monserratte, which is worth a visit, too. I spent the afternoon sightseeing in Candelaria, which is where I first saw freckled, pasty white European girls in shorts and Birkenstocks walking around and generally looking goofy. Prior to that, I had seen few gringos of any nationality in Bogota. I ate a decent meal at a self serve restaurant in Candelaria and rode the Transmilenio back up to my hotel. It was an easy ride so I mistakenly though it was generally a pleasant experience.

I took a disco nap and then got up for a preliminary shower, shit, shave and appropriate attire for the evening. Judging from the comments about Santa Fe, I decided on clothes there were easy to get on an off: a quality long sleeve tee, jogging pants and sneakers with lace-locks (and a hidden pocket to stash the majority of the funds for the evening). It was not late but it was after dark when I made the trot down calle 24, which is where my hotel was off of, right at Cr. 10. I knew the neighborhood along the was was sketchy but not too sketchy after all. Crossed over Cr. 14 and there I was, in a low-budget stag male Disneyland. Zona de Tolerancia is exactly what it has been described as, so there were no suprises. I walked around and got the feel of the neighborhood a bit and decided to look for Atunes. Saw a curvy, younger girl with big, natural looking boobs on a corner, her nipples poking through her thin, tight sweater that caught my eye. She was wearing glasses, but stylish glasses and stood out as being better groomed than the rest of the rabble on the street, aside from not standing in a group with the other girls. An interloper, perhaps?

But, I had just got there and wasn't ready to pull anything yet. I understand now how annoying the hawkers and touts outside the clubs can be. As I walked up Cr. 16 a looking for Atunes, I was approached by a slick young man, who spoke English and said he wanted to take me to Atunes, which was just fine because I was looking for that place and then I noticed I was standing in front of Atunes anyways. However, I let the guy walk me in because I figure that's how he gets his vig and that's okay with me. But, he has decided to be my guide or procurer or whatever, he hung close to me all the time I was there and it became annoying quickly. Atunes is a bit grungy but it has its charms. On that night the girls on stage were actually better dancers than at neighboring Troya, even if they were not pretty. The crowd was subdued, though. I was seated by the stage when one mounted the pole buck naked, and spread her legs wide open at me so I could see her shining a-hole and clean shaved twat. It was so good, I had to cheer and applaud loudly, but nobody else was showing any excitement. The mood among the crowd was best described as grim, which say a lot about their life. As I was enjoying this spectacle my would-be guide brings over a girl he wants me to meet. She is white, shorter dyed hair, wearing what looks like a kitschy thrift store dress and those goofy oversize glassed that millenial chicks like to wear. I believe that is called the Montreal look among millentials. In short, she was an emo millennial's wet dream come true, which in my discerning adult terms means that she wasn't very good-looking. However, she wasn't going away anytime soon and persisted lingering next to me, like I was supposed to engage her. And I'm trying to take in the scenery on stage. After I finish my beer, I get up and leave these clowns behind and went down the street and propositioned the girl with the big boobs. She complains that she is cold and it shows as her nipples are poking out through her sweater. However, she doesn't seem too excited about my interest. I ask how much for an hour and she says 100 mil. No way, I say. I was paying 70 k in a decent brothel the day before. However, in hindsight, I realized that she was probably multiplying her usual 15-minute rate times four. Still, she didn't try to persuade me or show any interest and I walked off, as some other girls called out loudly to me, obviously noting that I was ready to pay and had been slighted by this prima donna. However, there were so many girls on the streets, I was going to give the neighborhood a good look.

I walked past a pair of well decked out trannies standing at the entrance of one of the ST motels. These were not obvious trannies and they looked very nice. I am good at spotting trannies, because I have had gay friends and acquaintances who were drag performers in my younger days. Others may not be as experienced, so beware of them if you are not. As I said those two looked very good. But they were distinctly taller and slimmer than the rest of the girls, so let that be your first red flag.

Anyways, I wandered up and down the blocks looking at the street meet standing in the doorways and driveways of the motels / hotels. At the corner of calle 24 and Cr. 15, there is a decent ST hotel on the corner. Standing by herself was a young, plump, white girl dressed in a plaid skirt, sweater and ankle boots. Her name was Mara, she said she was 22. Though she was not my type she was a good saleswoman. She made a polite pitch to me, 40 k for "medio" and engaged me with her warm eyes. Okay, I'll bite. I still had to pay 7 k for the room, which wasn't bad as it has a TV at the end of the bed with porn going on. Mara got out of her clothes quickly but left her ankle boots on. She was indeed fleshy and had a nice big butt. We got down to business and she was generally pleasant and compliant in switching positions. The pace was still a bit quick, but it was a pleasant experience and I eventually came with her on her side and pumping against her ample white buttocks while I was watching a prettier girl getting fucked in ass on the TV. Once finished, Mara was up and dressed in a flash. I guess it helped that she never took her boots off. I was still getting dressed when she waved me goodbye with a smile and went back out on the streets. I got to say, I admire the girl's work ethic. She wasn't far from being the hottest girl on the block. But, she had social skills, customer service orientation and the desire to actually make some money with her time, which I respect.

I did want to visit Troya and it was a good night to go there. Unlike Atunes, the atmosphere was popping, the girls beautiful and were doing dirty lap dances, and the general feel of the place was good. The music wasn't my type, but it wasn't too loud and at least the stage always had two girl dancing throughout my visit. I had a few girls approach me to offer me company and I suppose, a lap dance. But, I was still in a peasant, post-coital afterglow from Ms. Mara, who was nowhere in the league of these girls. I decided to come back to Troya the next evening and make a night of it there.

After a few beers at Troya, I was feeling tired from all the sightseeing that day. BTW, beers at Troya and Atunes were 8 k each versus 5 k in the Chapinero strip clubs. You would think it would be the other way around. I slid back to my hotel on foot without incident, my testicles emptied and attempted a good night's rest. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.

Eszpresszo
09-10-18, 01:35
I just realized an error in my last post about my visit to Santa Fe. I was retracing some of my steps on my visit to Santa Fe using Google Maps. Then I noticed something wrong. I thought I was being led to Atunes. Actually, when looking at the location on Google Street View, the sign over the locations said Atones. That explains a few things. I thought Atunes was supposed to be a nicer club, but it was a bit downscale and gritty.

But, I think I can be forgiven. How do two competing clubs have such similar names? Was one trying to glom off the other's fame. So, for the record, that was Atonesthat I visited. Sorry for any confusion.

Nounce
09-10-18, 04:14
, beers at Troya and Atunes were 8 k each versus 5 k in the Chapinero strip clubs. Do you get beer from the bar, or from the waiter? It was 6 K when I visited last year.

Not sure how it works, This was in a different bar. I got a higher price from the waiter when I had a table. I got a beer directly from the bar on a later visit and it was cheaper.

GreenBud
09-10-18, 05:45
Do you get beer from the bar, or from the waiter? It was 6 K when I visited last year.

Not sure how it works, This was in a different bar. I got a higher price from the waiter when I had a table. I got a beer directly from the bar on a later visit and it was cheaper.Obviously, he got the beer from the waiter. In Santa Fe, many/most nightclub waiters will rip off the tourist. I am assuming they don't scam the locals.

At Troya, Club Colombia is 7 K COP. Poker beer is probably 1 K less. I hope E didn't tip after he got scammed.

A few months ago, waitress at Lion charged me 10 K. As I was leaving, I saw the prices posted on the table. I think it was 6 K. After this, I vowed never again to be ripped off. I went to California club. Fuckhead waiter attempted to charged me 15 K. I just looked / stared at him. He then gave me 5 K change. I continued to stare at him. Then I think he gave me another 4 K. Then he said "tip". I laughed. I mean I would have given him 2 K tip if he didn't try to rip me off.

Also, some of the waiters at Pussy House will try to scam you. They'll charge you 8 K for a Club Colombia. Price is 6 K.