Bogota Reports

[GreenBud]

I'm in Bogota now pecking this off on my tablet. So I will be brief. Went to Chicas Melenio on Calle 71 last night after 9. Place was full and rocking. More of a party house than traditional casa. Decent lineup maybe 9 girls free. I was sitting next to a Colombian dude who spoke some English. He was sitting with a trashy branca Brazilian who he said was his girlfriend. He told me the price per hour was 80 k. I chatted with tall slender Venezuelan and wanted to take her to do the deed. She quoted me 150. No way. My acquaintance intervened and chatted with in Spanish. He them confirmed what she asked and kindly got one of the managers to come over because he felt the price quoted was all wrong. Manager lady confirmed the price at that time was 150 k. My acquaintance explained he was charged less because he earlier. I wasn't buying that. So I chatted a bit with my new friend while the Caracas babe drifted into conversation with her gal pal, another Venezuelan. My new friend said good night, kissed the branch and left and I looked at the Brazilian. She wasn't pretty but her lingerie was off the map and body was awesome. She walked across the room and back and I could see she had the best body in the house. She sat down next to me and told me that guy wasn't really a boyfriend and she was free. I couldn't resist, ripoff or not. We settled on an hour for 150 k and went to the desk where a different manager sat. This manager said it was 180 for sexo! I protested that was not what I was told. She came back with 160 k for half an hour. And I just said, Basta! Basta! That branca was sexy as hell and I really wanted to be with her. But if I agreed to 180 they would probably raise the price again before we hit the room. I headed to the door and was surprised when they didn't pitch a counter offer, and that was it. I guess they couldn't lose face then or just didn't want to do the right thing. Either way, avoid this place. I had a better experience this morning across the street at Chicas 2000 where the price are posted on the wall in big letters. 35 for medio and 70 una hora! I will give a full report later when I get back but I suggest you avoid Chicas Melenio for now.Chicas Milenio is the only casa, out of the 5 I've been to, that didn't have prices posted.

Prices should be 30 K for 20 minutes, 40 K for 30 minutes, and 70 K for 1 hour. It seems that the girls there are allowed to overcharge the customers. But I am "only" overcharged 10 K when I select a new girl. If I repeat, I demand the girl charges me the standard price since I tip for BBBJ.

In Chicas Milenio, there seems to be 3 people that work the cash register. The older lady will allow the girls to overcharge you. The younger lady seems to be honest. When I accepted a new girl's offer of 40K for 20 minutes, she told me that price was for 30 minutes. And she told this to me and the girl. There is a new person, a male. Watch out for that fucker. He will rip you off. He kept my change, and acted dumb when I ask for my change back.

Note: It seems the worst time to go to Chicas Milenio or Chicas 2000 is Saturday night (not sure about Friday night). Hardly any girls there. It seems the best time is between 4PM-5PM during the weekdays. At that time, you have both shifts available. And I hate to go to the Pussy House or Venus on a Friday or Saturday night because it is so packed. But Venus was fun on a weekend night. I couldn't get a seat, but guys were having sex with the strippers on stage.

It seems to be extremely difficult to get BBBJ at the cases and the Santa Fe nightclubs without tipping. Some will refuse. Many seems to want 50 K. I paid that last year. But this time, I tried to get it cheaper. I bargained! I was able to get it to 20 K for couple of girls. Some of the girls held firm at 30 K or 40 K. Couple refused to go under 50 K. But the good news is that some included CIM with BBBJ.

[GreenBud]

Note: there is an Info desk on the second floor where you can get the latest information.

At the baggage claim, there is a counter where you can get a SIM. But the price was ridiculous. It was $49 USD for 1 Gig for 30 days.

You can get a Claro SIM at the convenience store on the first floor. It was 70 something COP. But the price was double or maybe triple for what you can get at an official Claro store. Another poster wrote that you can get a SIM at some electronics store on the second floor.

The last 2 trips, I got an Avantel SIM. I was told it was cheaper than Claro. 20 K COP for 2 gigs and X minutes for 30 days. Plus the cost of the SIM. But something funny happened. This current trip, I went to the same store in Zona T to get a new SIM and data. I was told that I needed a Colombian ID. He said I couldn't get a new SIM with a passport. I got it before. Is this a new rule? Or a rule never enforced?

At the airport, there is a coupon Van service. It was 70 something COP for a van from the airport to Zona T. There is no coupon service for a passenger car.

I took a regular meter taxi at the airport a few times. I hate to do that. Every time, they tried to scam me. Note: a good android app is Calculadora de Tarifas. It calculates your taxi fare. This pass trip, the fare should have been 26400 COP from the airport to Zona T. I gave him 30 K. I was going to let him have the change. Then he demanded 35 K. Then I took back the 30 K and gave him 28 K (I didn't have any smaller change), and showed him the calculator app.

If I have data left on my phone, I use Uber at the airport. But that's a minor pain. It takes them time for them to get to the airport, plus they park at the parking lot, and you have to walk (short distance) and find them.

Last year, I took Uber to the airport. As I was walking around the airport, a female police officer stopped me and asked me how I got to the airport. I told her I took Uber. I showed her my Uber page on my phone. She jotted down some info and told me to have a nice day. Later on, I got a message from Uber saying that they were sorry that I got stopped by the police, and they were refunding me my Uber fare. I feel guilty if my Uber driver never got paid.

[Eszpresszo]

Chicas Milenio is the only casa, out of the 5 I've been to, that didn't have prices posted.

Prices should be 30 K for 20 minutes, 40 K for 30 minutes, and 70 K for 1 hour. It seems that the girls there are allowed to overcharge the customers. But I am "only" overcharged 10 K when I select a new girl. If I repeat, I demand the girl charges me the standard price since I tip for BBBJ.

In Chicas Milenio, there seems to be 3 people that work the cash register. The older lady will allow the girls to overcharge you. The younger lady seems to be honest. When I accepted a new girl's offer of 40K for 20 minutes, she told me that price was for 30 minutes. And she told this to me and the girl. There is a new person, a male. Watch out for that fucker. He will rip you off. He kept my change, and acted dumb when I ask for my change back.Thanks for the info in your last two posts. And others can learn from my experience and yours. Yes, obviously they were trying to rip me off at Chicas Milenio. Both of the female "administradoras" (as my acquaintance called them) were guilty of participating in the report attempts, including the pretty younger girl, Alejandra. She was the one who told me it was now 175 k for an hour of "sexo" with Barbara the branca Paulista. I've never encountered that nonsense anywhere else in Colombia and I hope I never do again.

Okay, I understand now why the Santa Fe clubs charge more for beer. You pay more for getting it from a waiter and he keeps his tip? I don't mind a guy making a living or wanting to be tipped. But, obviously this is not acceptable. Presumably standards of honesty are upheld more at the Chapinero strip clubs? BTW, I also had a waiter at Fiebre try to charge me 30 k for a large Heineken. I walked out.

Yes, I took that van from the airport and paid too much at 68 k to Chapinero. I was still groggy, hadn't had any coffee yet and wasn't thinking clear. I had the same problem you had on the way back to the airport. I gave the driver 25 k which was what the Tappsi app listed from my hotel in the CBD to BOG. Driver said it wasn't enough and all I had left was a 50 k note. Handed him that, he wanted to keep all of it and the 25 k I had just given him. I objected and he gave the 25 k back, and I still objected until he gave me another 10 k back. I wasn't ready to argue since he had given me a pleasant ride and I had a plane to catch. So, it was 40 k. But, next time I will try Uber.

[Routard]

First time I hear they don't sell a SIM card with passport. Just try in any other shop or ask any Colombian to buy it for you. Regarding the taxi fair, the meter just calculate the distance and time, but on top of that there is the airport fee of 4400 but also night 2100 or week end fee 2100. And if they scam you with a couple of pesos, just remember that taxi drivers work hard and earn very few. The real scam at the airport are the so called VIP taxis( regular taxis are yellow, VIP taxis are white). Don't answer to people coming to you and offering what they call "official" taxi, just walk to the yellow taxi line. Regarding Uber, yes it is illegal in Colombia so it's not a good idea to use it from the airport. Keep in mind that regular taxi drivers queued for hours before they can pick someone up in airport.

[Tasss]

There are some bad quality Santa Fe videos if you search YouTube in English but a Spanish search leads you to this guy's channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZYkE4DIOad3EMTRKDU8dw/videos

He strapped a GoPro on his motorcycle helmet and rides through SF during the day time on a few occasions. Much better quality than the hidden camera recordings. The quantity of girls is typical of day time. At night there's more of course. I think these videos are helpful for newbies trying to get a feel of a place before they go. There are a lot of these kinds of walk-by videos on YouTube for other monger cities like Angeles City and Pattaya but not many for Colombia.

BTW regarding SIM cards, my friend who came to visit me from Venezuela got a 4 G LTE data + voice minutes Claro SIM card from a small street side shop for 5 k COP. I didn't get the details of how much data and voice it included, but I believe over the course of 6 days she had to recharge it once for another 5 k. If you simply use Uber, Maps, WhatsApp whatever it comes with should be enough. So as I said in my earlier report I paid 77 k COP for 2 GB for 2 weeks at the airport. Clearly it's both overkill and overpriced. Since she's from VNZ, I assume as a foreigner you should also be able to get the same thing.

[Eszpresszo]

Regarding the taxi fair, the meter just calculate the distance and time, but on top of that there is the airport fee of 4400 but also night 2100 or week end fee 2100. And if they scam you with a couple of pesos, just remember that taxi drivers work hard and earn very few. The real scam at the airport are the so called VIP taxis( regular taxis are yellow, VIP taxis are white). Don't answer to people coming to you and offering what they call "official" taxi, just walk to the yellow taxi line. Regarding Uber, yes it is illegal in Colombia so it's not a good idea to use it from the airport. Keep in mind that regular taxi drivers queued for hours before they can pick someone up in airport.Thanks for weighing in, Routard. I definitely don't mind giving a driver his fare share and a tip. I do expect they do spend a lot of time working the streets for little. Its the idea that you can milk gringos for all they can get away with, is what is bothersome. But, I wasn't away of the airport fee, the night fee or weekend fees. Thanks for that info.

[Eszpresszo]

Day 4, the first half.

Woke up much too early thanks to noise and sun light shining into my room. Looked at the time on my tablet and it was going on 6 AM, which is when I usually wake up at home. Despite being on the 9th floor, the noise from the street was too much and the light always wakes me up in the morning. I forgot to put in my earplugs and my sleep mask on the previous night. And sleep is crucial to testosterone production when you are my age. It didn't help that after I got back to my room, I drink two of those mini airline size bottles of scotch while watching a movie on cable. Anyways, the lack of sleep almost ruined my last day. After realizing that I wasn't going to be able to fall back asleep I got up and went downstairs to take the complimentary breakfast (which was as bland as you would expect in Colombia).

I wanted to go up to Montserratte, so I took a cab there, waited in a long line for tickets (though the line up the funicular rail car wasn't long at all. Its worth a visit if you haven't seen it. Once I got back down and got a cab back to the hotel, I decided to take a disco nap but had little results. So off to my second task of the day: go visit Chicas 2000 again. The Transmilenio runs out front and after my initial experience the previous day I thought I'd save some cash and take it up the road into Champinero. However, it went up a bumpy stretch most of the way and standing room only. I almost got off early because it was so uncomfortable. But, at least it was fast. I got off at calle 70 and made my way to Chicas 2000. I think the time was around 1 PM.

William was talking to the guys who worked the door across the street at Chicas Milenio. But, he saw me coming and opened the door for me. I passed a pair of cute girls sitting on the bench outside and one, a criolla girl caught my eye. Once I sat down, the girls all assembled quickly and there were 7 to choose from. I was looking for Lis, the one I'd seen the other day and Catalina, because I liked her very good CBJ. Neither Lis not Catalina were in the lineup, but the options were good. I went for the pretty and curvy criolla. Her name was Kamila and she was from Caracas. We went upstairs to the only room available, which I didn't like as much as the one I was in earlier. Off with our clothes and I got a good look at her. She had a dark caramel complexion, facial features and skin texture of a negra, but her hair was straight and silky, with highlights the color of her skin. She definitely had her MILF curves going and under her navel there was a distinct see-section scar, but no other prominent baby damage. I started to go for her nice nipples with my mouth, but she warned me that it would be 15 k. Not what I wanted to hear, since Catalina had let me nosh on her nipples all I wanted for free. But, I guess that's because she had less to work with. I paid up because that's what I wanted to do most at that moment. And you better believe I got my $5 worth. When I tried to go down on that caramel cookie, she told me 15 k, as well. I'm not going to pay to pleasure a woman. This is a first for me. Hopefully it will be my last. Kamila had a bit of trouble figuring out how to get the Okamoto on, due to its thinness. I had to get it going the right way for her. Her BBBJ was decent, but nowhere as good as Catalina's. Kamila got me hard with her BJ, Catalina made me cum. Eventually she mounted me and she rode pretty good for awhile, and then did a good reverse cowgirl so I could peer at her nice ass. Eventually I flipped her on her back and she even pulled her legs back with her hands and let me give her a pounding. I finished on top and then we chit-chatted a bit after that with my limited Spanish. She hadn't been in Bogota long, and from the way things went, I don't think she just began her career as puta here in the short period of time. She told me some things about her home, but the thing I made out best was it was just a very bad situation. I inquired about the time, she looked at her phone and announced the time was, in fact, up now (or something to that effect). I had my doubts about that. But, I got dressed and at least she did not ask for a propina.

Speaking of propinas, in Medellin I never had a girl charge for any service beyond what I paid up front. However, two of them in Medellin got aggressive for a propina and one got real pissy about it until I gave her one and then she complained it wasn't enough to buy P*MP*rs for her baby (yes, that is a forbidden word, any type of paper product used around the bottom of an infant. It is censored). Both of those girls asked for my phone to put their number in my contact list (though I wasn't interested in repeating with them). Nobody in Bogota wanted to exchange contact info, but they never asked for tips, either. I don't know if that reflects my limited personal experience or different standards in the two cities. To be honest, I could not see how women in Medellin were any better looking, whether in the casas or ordinary girls on the street. As I see it, Colombia is just a land of pretty women. But there might be some difference between the Modus Operandi of girls in different cities.

As for Kamila, would I repeat? No, unless we had everything worked out well before we started and I had "all access" to their body. As for young little Catalina, I would definitely do it again as long as we got the kissing upcharge taken care of. Had she done DFK it would have been a complete GFE. She was the best in terms of relating to my needs after the MILF I pulled off the street in Santa Fe, later that evening. Oh, and as I walked out, there was Lis sitting there in her underwear reading another catalogue or magazine or something. She looked up at me and smiled. But, us was never to be.

To be continued.

[GreenBud]

We went upstairs to the only room available, which I didn't like as much as the one I was in earlier.There's also rooms available next door, within the same complex. They use that when it gets full upstairs.

I went to Chicas 2000 today and saw Camilia (I think). She was probably the skinniest one there. I like skinny girls. It seems a lot of guys on this forum like large asses. But I don't like to do a girl whose ass is larger than mine. I offered her 20 K then 30 K propina for BBBJ. She said 50 K. She wouldn't budge. I asked if CIM was included. She said no. Oh well. Covered BJ wasn't that bad. Although she time after 20 minutes. It seems in the cases, the girl determines when time is up. In the Santa Fe nightclubs, you get the dreaded knock on the door very early.


Chicas Milenio is the only casa, out of the 5 I've been to, that didn't have prices posted.

Prices should be 30 K for 20 minutes, 40 K for 30 minutes, and 70 K for 1 hour. It seems that the girls there are allowed to overcharge the customers.Note: Need to take everything what the girls tell you with "a grain of salt". Plus my Spanish is very limited.

I talked to a girl I've had before at Chicas Milenio. She said the prices went up. She said that now the prices are: 40 K for 20 minutes, 50 K for 30 minutes, and still 70 K for 1 hour. She said the girls get half of what they charge. My guess is that the girls can charge whatever they want. I believe at Chicas 2000, the girl gets 20 K out of the 35 K for the half hour.


The last 2 trips, I got an Avantel SIM. I was told it was cheaper than Claro. 20 K COP for 2 gigs and X minutes for 30 days. Plus the cost of the SIM. But something funny happened. This current trip, I went to the same store in Zona T to get a new SIM and data. I was told that I needed a Colombian ID. He said I couldn't get a new SIM with a passport. I got it before. Is this a new rule? Or a rule never enforced?I've had problems with Avantel. Last time, my data ended early (according to my phone measurement). Last night, my data ended after 400 MB. Should have been 2 Gig. Not sure what happened. Maybe the person I bought the data from ripped me off.

I went and got a Claro SIM. It was 20 K for 2 Gig for 15 days. 5 K for minutes. 5 K for the SIM. I need reliable data to call Uber if I am in a sketchy area!

I went to an authorized Claro dealer. No ID required. I was not even asked for a passport.

[Eszpresszo]

Day 4, the evening in Santa Fe.

Got back to my hotel via cab. The ride up on the Transmilenio was too rough up on the way up. Done with that. Attempted a disco nap, but couldn't nap too long before I woke up. It was getting dark and my stomach was rumbling. I had passed on lunch, and wanted to find some grub in the immediate proximity before it got dark and things shut down. The area around the Hotel San Francisco and business district actually has a lot of things to see and do in regards to shopping and eating during. After dark, I don't know. I found a ordinary sit-down restaurant across the carerra that served me up a large portion of food, and a beer for 11,400 ($3. 70 USD). Can't complain about that.

Headed over to Sante Fe after dark and made the rounds on the streets first. Saw the same cute girl with big boobs on the same corner. But, she didn't look any more encouraging on a Monday night, and there was less action on the streets that evening.

Decided to check out Troya, because it was hopping the night before. I was ready to whoop it up and buy some quality time with some sweet young thing. Boy, was I disappointed. The place was dead. I understand that they weren't many customers, but there were quite a lot of good looking women standing around, music playing and nobody dancing. I didn't get it. I sat and drank a beer and noticed most of the girls standing around sucking on Lolipops. What was this, Lolipop night? After my beer was done, I got up and left. I walked around and went into Venus. Same thing. Girls standing around and an empty stage. The scene inside Venus reminded me of Thermae in Bangkok. Very young, bored, fully clothed girls, some very well fed, looking at their phones and waiting for something to happen. I turned around and left. What was going on? Strip clubs full of girls but none of them dancing. WTF? I found Fiebre, which was supposed to be good. At least they had a girl dancing on the stage, and a good dancer. However, I didn't notice many girls in there, and the mood was dead. I sat by the stage and waiter told me they had Heineken and Corona. I'm sure they had more, but I asked for a Heineken because I hate Corona. He brought a large Heineken, and told me 30 k. WTF? Large or not, I knew 30 k was a lot for a beer in Colombia. I objected, he told me a Corona was 10 k and went to fetch one. I broke like the wind, and headed for the door. It was not shaping up to be a good night, so far.

When I stepped outside it was raining. I walked around the block to see what was going on, and saw a hole in the wall bar called Taberna Napoles. It looked like a place to get out of the rain and rethink things. I stepped in and ordered an agua mineral. A pair of scruffy looking characters were talking in hushed tones at one table and that was all the customers they had. Behind the bar were three girls, one of them extremely cute, another just cute and another plain. But all made me welcome. They were playing music off of a MacBook and asked me what I wanted to hear. I was fine with the Regatton they were playing even if I didn't like that stuff. The cute one chatted with me as best we could. She wore a low-cut crop top exposing a nice rack, a belly piercing and an interesting tattoo around her waist. I was hoping she was for hire, because she was cute, sexy, friendly and was employed primarily in an ordinary job. So, I was flirting hard, until an older gentleman showed up and they started answering to him. I asked if that was the "Jefe" and the cute one nodded in affirmation. Things got a bit more business like there with the boss hanging around. I finished my bottle of water and headed out after the rain quit. I walked up the road just a few yards looking at the girls standing in the driveway of the motels across the way. Then I saw her.

Five girls were standing in one garage entrance, and they all were nicely done up and reasonably attractive. However, the one on the end made unflinching eye contact with me, smiled and I went up to her. She was a distinctly older morena than the other girls, but she had this confidence to her the others didn't, not to mention we just sort of clicked. I liked her outfit which said "date night" as opposed to "street hoe". Plus, she had some good MILF curves going. She wasn't beautiful, but she was cute and had soft eyes and brown hair. How much? 34, she said, not 30, not 35, not 40, but 34 k COP. I nodded and asked her name. She told me and I forgot it almost immediately. It was a common name and somehow it slipped my mind before we were even finished. Walked up to the counter of the motel and I see a sign that says 6000 por 15 Minutos. Okay, now I get it. I pay the motel and then its 40 k total. I wonder if they raised their rates just a few mil. If she would drop her price correspondingly. They handed her the tray with the wipes and condoms and she leads me to the first room. It didn't have a flat screen with porn going on. However, it did have a poster of Snow White on the wall, and a nice mirror opposite the bed, which actually functioned well. They was also a large squirt bottle of PURE lubricant on the nightstand, which came in handy.

So of with her date clothes and she was wearing nice, white "post date you just got so lucky" lingerie. A lacy teddy that looked so go on her, I almost didn't want her to take it off. Damn if I didn't get lucky. For a 34 k short-time street hooker, she was mighty done up! But, we were promptly naked and she was pleasantly fleshy, with a nice big but shapely butt, nice boobs and no visible baby damage other than her MILF curves. She went through a quick program, but she did it very well. She even turned her ass to the mirror while going down on me. When I started to finger her pussy she grabbed the bottle of lube a squirted some on my fingers, so I could actually slide them inside her cooze. She got on an did cowgirl, and her cookie still felt decent. But I had already popped this morning and I knew our time was limited. I asked her to give me an hand job through gesticulation and damned if she didn't do an excellent handjob. The best I've ever gotten, actually. I popped rather quickly after that, she gave me a wet wipe to clean up while she into the bathroom to wash up. The knock came at the door. We got dressed in a hurry and the knock came again. Our fifteen minutes were up. I actually wanted to give her a little tip but she was gone in a flash. I walked out and didn't see her either. Had she hung around and leaned on me a bit, I might have proposed toda la noche, even if it was just cuddling & fondling. But, I guess she had places to go and things to do.

Interesting comparison between her and the 35 k short-time Paula at Bar La 70. Both were very similar in basic demographic. Mature, MILFy morenas but complete opposites in terms of grooming, attitude and service levels, though working at the same level and same price. One gave the best hand job in the world, and the other couldn't give a hand job to save her life. And that's the lesson I learned about low end working girls in Bogota.

[ThaiSpice]

Hey everyone,

I just got back from Cartagena and loved the clubs like Elektra there because you can dance with the chicas first to see if you have good vibe with them prior to taking them back to your room. Usually if they dance well with you, you will have a good session in bed. Are there any clubs similar to that in Bogota?

[Woodman09]

Hey everyone,

I just got back from Cartagena and loved the clubs like Elektra there because you can dance with the chicas first to see if you have good vibe with them prior to taking them back to your room. Usually if they dance well with you, you will have a good session in bed. Are there any clubs similar to that in Bogota?Yes, you can party with the girls in most clubs in Santa Fe. Dirty Dancing.

[Mr Enternational]

I just got back from Cartagena and loved the clubs like Elektra there because you can dance with the chicas first to see if you have good vibe with them prior to taking them back to your room. Usually if they dance well with you, you will have a good session in bed. Are there any clubs similar to that in Bogota?I guess it is all in the name of the fantasy. I never dance with hookers but still almost always have a good session in bed with them.

[DWorldTravel69]

I read through all the posts and I am looking to my first visit there.

Kudos to everyone who spent time to share their wisdom and experience.

It helps noob like me who's visiting for the first time.

Let me know if anyone is around next this weekend to meet up. Not sure how this will work since I can't sign up for membership since I am from US.

The.

[Woodman09]

There are some bad quality Santa Fe videos if you search YouTube in English but a Spanish search leads you to this guy's channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZYkE4DIOad3EMTRKDU8dw/videos

He strapped a GoPro on his motorcycle helmet and rides through SF during the day time on a few occasions. Much better quality than the hidden camera recordings. The quantity of girls is typical of day time. At night there's more of course. I think these videos are helpful for newbies trying to get a feel of a place before they go. There are a lot of these kinds of walk-by videos on YouTube for other monger cities like Angeles City and Pattaya but not many for Colombia.These videos are 2+ years old, I think the quality is better now and they were not shot at the best times. The first 2 were shot on the South part which has lower quality.

[Eszpresszo]

I read through all the posts and I am looking to my first visit there.

Kudos to everyone who spent time to share their wisdom and experience.

It helps noob like me who's visiting for the first time.

Let me know if anyone is around next this weekend to meet up. Not sure how this will work since I can't sign up for membership since I am from US.

The.Read carefully through Routard's blog and the "Lists" blog as well. I guess you have read the more recent trip reports, but don't forget to read through some of the older ones, as well. Just remember, prices change, girls come and go, just as management changes too. When you read the recent trip reports, take everything with a big grain of salt, my recent trip reports included.

You should have a good time in Bogota, if you temper your expectations. Bogota is a great place but as I found sometimes, things can go awry when you go mongering anywhere (read my trip report about Kuta on the Bali thread for an example). Mongering will require some patience at times, whereas sometimes it is a point-and-click experience.

Be cautious but don't be paranoiac. Colombians are genuinely nice people, though some will try to take advantage of you in these vice related scenarios. If you come across a situation with the latter, be assertive but respectful. Don't hesitate to walk out or walk away if you think someone is trying to rip you off. You have the right to say no to any request for a "propina". While I never had anyone request a propina yet in Bogota, it does happen in Colombia and other parts of Latin America. Typically, those who ask for it, are the least deserving, in my experience. No need to over tip for mediocre service.

Try to occupy your time with good cultural experiences unless you are capable of f*cking all day and all night. Try to interact with the locals. Don't be afraid to flirt. The women are nice there and if they see you looking at them, they will often give you a look back. I noticed that in the better neighborhoods where the women are more affluent, they were often more likely to look at you with more curiosity, than say those of the lower class. Remember, there are not many foreign tourists in Bogota, and the ones I identified were mostly from other parts of Latin America.

Be sure to report back and if anyone gives you crap about what you did, put them on ignore. Some losers will always be upset because you were there and they weren't. Your experiences will you own, just like mine were my own. But yours will be with you forever.

[DWorldTravel69]

What are the hours for Chicas Milenia? FAQ says open til 3 am and when I googled it shows 10-10 every day.

Can someone confirm?

The.

[DWorldTravel69]

Thanks for your input Eszpresszo.

I'll go out and explore. There were a lot of good reports including yours and now it's time to put to test to see how much I remember.

I am going to be staying in chapinero area and wondering if there are any recommendations for food and then some fun after 10 pm without having to venture out too far.

The.


Read carefully through Routard's blog and the "Lists" blog as well. I guess you have read the more recent trip reports, but don't forget to read through some of the older ones, as well. Just remember, prices change, girls come and go, just as management changes too. When you read the recent trip reports, take everything with a big grain of salt, my recent trip reports included.

You should have a good time in Bogota, if you temper your expectations. Bogota is a great place but as I found sometimes, things can go awry when you go mongering anywhere (read my trip report about Kuta on the Bali thread for an example). Mongering will require some patience at times, whereas sometimes it is a point-and-click experience..

[GreenBud]

What are the hours for Chicas Milenia? FAQ says open til 3 am and when I googled it shows 10-10 every day.

Can someone confirm?Last year, my Uber dropped me off around midnight during the weekday. One girl (with her boyfriend, no one else around) was locking the front door.

She told me to go to Santa Fe for the late night stuff.

[Woodman09]

I just Love Santa Fe because I can leave my apartment and be boning some hot girl in 10 minutes!! I Make sure and take my Viagra before leaving!

Santa Fe Pussy Fest.

Thursday 8-30 for 3 hours cavorting with the Streetie sweeties. There were gaggles of girls on 23 d at least 20 18-20 somethings lined up. They kept changing and there would be new girls every few minutes, it's fantastic!

I boned 3 girls 4 times All super cuties.

I was looking for this one girl that I had boned before and was kinda thinking about for a while. I did see her but decided to pass when she was throwing some attitude.

1st girl was Really a pretty morena Venezolana but kinda cold in the room. Actually felt a little rapey but I think she was actually enjoying it trying not to show it, Afterward I was just wandering around smoking a joint cavorting with the girls.

2nd was a super cute petite girl looked like a HS senior. She was white with a jewfro I don't think she had any kids when I started boning her she was screaming and she let me pull her hair. Just a great session, afterwards I was walking around and decided I wanted some more of that. I could not find her and met this other really cute dark haired 18 yo Latina she had nice C+ cups and was able to deep throat. She also let me pull her hair and was screaming too, I ended up boning her 2 times. (3 d Girl).

Spent $140 miltotal.

Saturday 9-01.

3 hours in Troya.

Got to Santa Fe about 8 pm doing a tour, caroused the streets walked through a bunch of clubs, My client was a little shell shocked by the wide array of talent.

We ended up Troya at 9 pm seems like around 9;30 things seemed to improve and about 15+ more girls showed up. My guess is a lot of girls came in from the North clubs after trying to bag a big spender. It was the usual spectacular bacchanal of beautiful naked girls doing full contact lap dances. Another great night in Santa Fe!

[Mr Enternational]

The high volume of Santa Fe is probably how the above-mentioned Vanessa makes more money there than at the Mansion. With 60 k quickies in Santa Fe, and 150-200 k "horitas" at the Mansion, she must be fucking 3-4 times as many guys as she did at the Mansion, but for shorter time increments.Just to point out once again one monger's first hand experience that a chick he knew from a more expensive place, he ended up running into right in Santa Fe. Don't fool yourself guys.

[GringoItaliano]

Just to point out once again one monger's first hand experience that a chick he knew from a more expensive place, he ended up running into right in Santa Fe. Don't fool yourself guys.Thank you for catching that revealing detail, which, for those of you that did not see it, is in the overview of my recent trip to Medellin and Bogota on the "General Info" thread for Colombia.

Suffice it to say that there is more where that came from. I will be posting a detailed report on the Bogota leg of my trip, in which I make the case that Santa Fe is most worthwhile game in town and that the high-end clubs up north are a waste of time and money. And keep in mind that this assessment comes from a guy who would normally gravitate toward higher-end venues.

[DWorldTravel69]

I've spent few days in Bogota and it number of places on mentioned on the map with mixed results. I'll post my review to share my experience.

I am tempted to visit SF and I am not sure If it's advisable to go alone.

I am unable to sign up and don't have access to the pm which limits my ability to get local help.

Can someone provide a advisable route for visit SF like where to get dropped off and stay off of? Just trying to, stay away from any troubles.

The.

[GringoItaliano]

I spent the second week of my recent two-week trip to Colombia in Bogota, after spending a week in Medellin. Many Colombia mongers focus so much on Medellin and paisas that it is easy to forget that Colombia is a large and diverse country, in which paisas are just one regional culture. I previously had enough exposure to non-paisa chicas in Cartagena and the Dutch Caribbean to known that they might be just as appealing to me as paisas, if not more so. Colombia's capital and largest city, which attracts chicas from across the country and also from neighboring Venezuela, was a logical place to explore further. Bogota is also off the beaten path for most gringo mongers; I liked the idea of exploring a more "pristine" and relatively gringo-free environment. I also place more emphasis on non-mongering activities than most mongers, and Bogota appealed to me in that regard as well, with about four days worth of sightseeing, including museums, historic buildings, Monserrate, and so on.

I had originally planned to explore all three of Bogota's main "hoe zones" more or less equally: the Santa Fe red light district downtown; the clubs and casas in Chapinero to the north; and the high-end clubs in the far north. I nonetheless ended up spending the vast majority of my mongering time in Santa Fe, after determining that neither the far north nor Chapinero were worth the cost and / or the time, as I will explain in a separate, follow-on post. I recommend sticking to Santa Fe, if you are comfortable with its major downsides, and avoiding Bogota altogether if you are not comfortable with Santa Fe. I should emphasize that I would not have expected to come to this conclusion when I planned my trip, and I normally gravitate toward higher-end environments, so keep that in mind when you read this.

Safety had been one of my top concerns about Santa Fe, and its reputation as unsafe evidently stems from more than the overactive imaginations of high-maintenance gringos. Many of the cab drivers that dropped me off there told me to be careful, but none of them could provide any specifics as to what the actual dangers might be, and what to be careful of. Santa Fe definitely looks and feels ghetto, but I did not experience any security issues in the week that I was there. Mostly at night (sometimes as late as 3 am), sometimes during the day, and by myself at all times but one. I never felt unsafe there but was often uncomfortable for other reasons, such as noise and overcrowding. There is a conspicuous police presence, especially at night, and it is so crowded at night that a violent crime would have enough witnesses to deter smarter criminals. I even saw moms pushing their kids around in strollers at night. My main security concern would be pickpockets, especially in the clubs, some of which can become as crowded as mosh pits at night. The trick may be to stay within the three heavily populated blocks with most of the action and avoid the rest not unlike Tijuana, which (from what I have read) might make for a good comparison with Santa Fe, except Santa Fe is cheaper and largely gringo-free.

I engaged Woodman here on ISG for a guided tour of Santa Fe in order to familiarize myself with the area and learn some of the practical details that I could not clarify from the reporting here and elsewhere. The noisy, crowded environment was a bit overwhelming at first (keep in mind that this was the reaction of a native New Yorker), and the volume and occasional quality of the talent on display did leave me with a bit of a "deer in the headlights" feeling. There was definitely some culture shock at first not the culture shock of a gringo escaping the sexually repressed culture of North America, but a culture shock coming from the tamer environment of Medellin, of all places. My key takeaway from Woodman's tour was that he made me comfortable with the area and its unfamiliar atmosphere and environment, which I might not have done if I had gone by myself for the first time, especially at night. Some suggest visiting Santa Fe during the day at first, when it is presumably safer and easier to learn the layout, and when the atmosphere and environment would be less overwhelming. In fact, some of the daytime girls that I later met told me that they only work during the day because the nighttime environment was too overwhelming or "loco" (in their words) for them.

I had historically been wary of street girls but eventually decided to take the plunge after I could no longer resist the quality of some of the talent on display. In retrospect, I wish that I had opted for street girls earlier on, as the quality of their service was more consistently good than that of the club girls (but not as good as that of the better club girls), and their rooms were better. Street girls usually had lower rates (typically 40-50 k) than club girls (typically 60 k), if saving 10-20 k is important to you. The street and club scenes are not entirely separate, as some street girls may wander in and out of the clubs.

I had read before my trip that Atunes, Troya, and Fiebre were the best clubs, with which I would agree, but I would also add Paisas to that list. The quality of the talent and the facilities at other clubs was generally lower. The clubs are mostly open at night, but Atunes is strictly a daytime / happy hour club, and some lower-end clubs are also open during the day. The atmosphere of Atunes reminded me of Rumba in Sosua back in the day. The daytime girls, in Atunes or on the street, struck me as less hardened and had a "kinder, gentler" look and vibe, often of the MILF or "girl next door" variety.

Most girls do not work for clubs but move in and out of them; they may nonetheless prefer certain clubs, as I did. There were a few dancers that appeared to work for the house, doing lap dances or otherwise entertaining bottle service guys. They were often the hottest girls but may be so busy on stage or with bottle service guys that it might be hard to pull them. Paisas worked well for me because it had good lighting, decent rooms, music that was not deafeningly loud, and not overcrowded. It attracted more paisas, blondes, and other types that I like. Fiebre attracted the most and the hottest girls and had the best session rooms but was overcrowded, dark, and deafeningly loud to the point that it was often hard to discuss even basic stuff, like pricing and services. Troya put on the best stage show, and I found some good hoes there, but the rooms sucked, to the point of detracting from sessions.

The physical quality of the talent was often quite high for such cheap places and offered far more variety than the homogeneity of Medellin, with a wide range of girls from across the country and Venezuela. Venezuelans were abundant, but I did not find them any better, on average, than Colombians in terms of appearance, service, or pricing. The tits & ass types (often of the silicone variety) were more common than the evident fixation with flaquitas in some Medellin circles. Santa Fe is definitely a "locals' joint" on a massive scale, so the composition of the talent pool reflects the tastes of Colombian guys, not gringos. The orientation toward gringo tastes in many gringo-oriented venues has been an issue for me, as my taste in women is more consistent with that of Latinos. I remember seeing those short & skinny girls when I came to Medellin for the first time and wondered, "where are all the huge tits & asses for which Colombia is famous?" Well, apparently they are in Santa Fe.

The male: female ratio was less advantageous than most gringo-oriented venues, sometimes roughly 1:1. Girls are far less likely to make the first move here, perhaps because the numbers are more advantageous for them, and in keeping with the more traditional gender norms of many Colombians. It is the polar opposite of Costa Rica or Sosua, where girls fly at you from across the room and jump down your throat if you happen to glance in their general direction for a split second. Flirting with them from a distance usually does not get them to come over. One must approach them proactively, physically, and assertively, and even then they may seem aloof, standoffish, or unresponsive. Extended "interviews" may be impractical in clubs at night due to noise, overcrowding, and the fast, high-volume nature of the business usually just enough to discuss rates and services and not enough to assess chemistry and establish rapport, as I prefer, which probably contributed to some bad sessions that I had.

Santa Fe sessions are typically "hit it & quit it" engagements of 15-20 minutes. Some girls offer to extend sessions if you have not busted a nut by that point and you are willing pay for another time increment. Others are not clock-watchers at all; I spent over an hour in the room with the club girl in the pink dress in the below photo. She did not charge me for any more time (but did ask for a well-deserved tip at the end, which I provided) and even initiated a second round of CIM (I had not requested or negotiated CIM up front), which she miraculously extracted from me after having already drained my nuts thoroughly in the first round. A few girls left the room promptly but chilled with me at length in the club for post-leche GFE, from which it was actually hard to extricate myself. I almost had to pry one of them loose with a crow bar when she started talking about having white babies.

Santa Fe is definitely a high-volume environment, and I wonder how many sessions girls need each night in order to earn enough money. The girls there did occasionally ask me some "screening" questions, as they do in other, lower-volume environments, to assess one's potential desirability as a client. One question that several Santa Fe girls asked me up front, and I have never heard anywhere else, is "how many times have you made love today?" Note that the question is not "have you made love today?" but "how many times have you made love today?" I would wager that they were trying to gauge how easy or hard it would be to get me to bust a nut, and how long it might take.

Payment in Santa Fe is always up front. Most girls covered room costs out of their own fees, but a few asked me to pay for the rooms; they were so cheap (like 6 k) that I saw no need to quibble about it. Club room attendants ask for tips before the session, which Woodman described as a good investment, as a good tip may cause them to "forget" to knock on the door when time is up. Rooms in the clubs often left a lot to be desired, lacking such basics as pillows on the bed or towels. They do have toilets, sinks, and showers, so you can wash your equipment after a session in anticipation of the next one. I made do without pillows by rolling my jeans into a ball and used bed sheets (which they do change after each session) to dry myself off out of the shower the first time, after which I brought my own washcloth. Rooms in the short-time hotels that street girls used were consistently of higher quality.

The quality of the service varied tremendously; the best girls outperformed the typical or even the better Medellin Facebook girls, while the worst began so badly that I just aborted and left. If you like scrounging through cheap shit for diamonds in the rough, Santa Fe is the place for you. In contrast to the prevailing GFE of Medellin, the more vigorous and freaky sexual style here leaned toward PSE.

My main problem with the service was the dominance of CBJ, which is normally a showstopper for me. A majority of girls were CBJ-only, including more of the hotter girls, who can get away with it. The minority of BBBJ girls charged extra for it: 10 k on the low end, 20 k was more typical, and 40 k on the high end. A few did CIM at their own initiative, and one even swallowed at her own initiative.

Santa Fe girls were less photo-friendly than anywhere else I have been; most refused. Of those that said yes, many wanted more money, only allowed body shots, or both. I have included a few samples here.

The place to stay is the cheap, chica-friendly Hotel Ibis Bogota Museo. The rooms are small and basic but of good quality. Breakfast is available for a modest fee, and there is an on-site Peruvian restaurant and a nearby "gastronomy zone" with many restaurants. There are several banks just across the street. Cab rides to and from Santa Fe should not take more than 5-10 minutes and were dirt cheap.

Santa Fe was a fulfilling experience, despite its major flaws. It took me out of my comfort zone and exposed me to a very different scene, some of which fit my tastes better than I expected and may outdo Medellin in some ways. There are some real diamonds here, but the rough in which you find them is very rough, which is to be expected at such low prices. I might return someday for a 3-4 day fuckfest, as a cheaper, more convenient (for me) alternative to Tijuana. Those of you with flights to Medellin or Brazil though Bogota might consider stopping there for a few days, if it sounds appealing to you. Those of you that go to Medellin to scrounge for cheap diamonds in the rough in Centro or Mayorista might find Santa Fe more rewarding in that regard. High-rollers and those that might find Santa Fe intimidating, however, should probably skip Bogota altogether, as I will explain in another post.

[Turgid]

....................... while the worst began so badly that I just aborted and left. If you like scrounging through cheap shit for diamonds in the rough, Santa Fe is the place for you. ...........................The place to stay is the cheap, chica-friendly Hotel Ibis Bogota Museo. The rooms are small and basic but of good quality. Breakfast is available for a modest fee, and there is an on-site Peruvian restaurant and a nearby "gastronomy zone" with many restaurants. ......................Very good Sante Fe report that gives me a pretty good idea of the place. Could you give an example of the beginning of your worst experiences that caused you to abort? Was noise an issue for you at the Ibis? How was the ceviche at the Peruvian restaurant?

[Woodman09]

I had historically been wary of street girls but eventually decided to take the plunge after I could no longer resist the quality of some of the talent on display. In retrospect, I wish that I had opted for street girls earlier on, as the quality of their service was more consistently good than that of the club girls (but not as good as that of the better club girls), and their rooms were better. Street girls usually had lower rates (typically 40-50 k) than club girls (typically 60 k), if saving 10-20 k is important to you. The street and club scenes are not entirely separate, as some street girls may wander in and out of the clubs. Yes Gringo! The streety sweeties!


Santa Fe sessions are typically "hit it & quit it" engagements of 15-20 minutes. Some girls offer to extend sessions if you have not busted a nut by that point and you are willing pay for another time increment. Others are not clock-watchers at all; I spent over an hour in the room with the club girl in the pink dress in the below photo. She did not charge me for any more time (but did ask for a well-deserved tip at the end, which I provided) and even initiated a second round of CIM (I had not requested or negotiated CIM up front), which she miraculously extracted from me after having already drained my nuts thoroughly in the first round. A few girls left the room promptly but chilled with me at length in the club for post-leche GFE, from which it was actually hard to extricate myself. I almost had to pry one of them loose with a crow bar when she started talking about having white babies.Also a good economical way to try the girl and if it is all good, get phone number for extended date.

[Global00]

I really enjoy reports with pictures. You did an amazing job!


I spent the second week of my recent two-week trip to Colombia in Bogota, after spending a week in Medellin. Many Colombia mongers focus so much on Medellin and paisas that it is easy to forget that Colombia is a large and diverse country, in which paisas are just one regional culture. I previously had enough exposure to non-paisa chicas in Cartagena and the Dutch Caribbean to known that they might be just as appealing to me as paisas, if not more so. Colombia's capital and largest city, which attracts chicas from across the country and also from neighboring Venezuela, was a logical place to explore further. Bogota is also off the beaten path for most gringo mongers; I liked the idea of exploring a more "pristine" and relatively gringo-free environment. I also place more emphasis on non-mongering activities than most mongers, and Bogota appealed to me in that regard as well, with about four days worth of sightseeing, including museums, historic buildings, Monserrate, and so on.

I had originally planned to explore all three of Bogota's main "hoe zones" more or less equally: the Santa Fe red light district downtown; the clubs and casas in Chapinero to the north; and the high-end clubs in the far north. I nonetheless ended up spending the vast majority of my mongering time in Santa Fe, after determining that neither the far north nor Chapinero were worth the cost and / or the time, as I will explain in a separate, follow-on post. I recommend sticking to Santa Fe, if you are comfortable with its major downsides, and avoiding Bogota altogether if you are not comfortable with Santa Fe. I should emphasize that I would not have expected to come to this conclusion when I planned my trip, and I normally gravitate toward higher-end environments, so keep that in mind when you read this.

Safety had been one of my top concerns about Santa Fe, and its reputation as unsafe evidently stems from more than the overactive imaginations of high-maintenance gringos. Many of the cab drivers that dropped me off there told me to be careful, but none of them could provide any specifics as to what the actual dangers might be, and what to be careful of. Santa Fe definitely looks and feels ghetto, but I did not experience any security issues in the week that I was there. Mostly at night (sometimes as late as 3 am), sometimes during the day, and by myself at all times but one. I never felt unsafe there but was often uncomfortable for other reasons, such as noise and overcrowding. There is a conspicuous police presence, especially at night, and it is so crowded at night that a violent crime would have enough witnesses to deter smarter criminals. I even saw moms pushing their kids around in strollers at night. My main security concern would be pickpockets, especially in the clubs, some of which can become as crowded as mosh pits at night. The trick may be to stay within the three heavily populated blocks with most of the action and avoid the rest not unlike Tijuana, which (from what I have read) might make for a good comparison with Santa Fe, except Santa Fe is cheaper and largely gringo-free.

I engaged Woodman here on ISG for a guided tour of Santa Fe in order to familiarize myself with the area and learn some of the practical details that I could not clarify from the reporting here and elsewhere. The noisy, crowded environment was a bit overwhelming at first (keep in mind that this was the reaction of a native New Yorker), and the volume and occasional quality of the talent on display did leave me with a bit of a "deer in the headlights" feeling. There was definitely some culture shock at first not the culture shock of a gringo escaping the sexually repressed culture of North America, but a culture shock coming from the tamer environment of Medellin, of all places. My key takeaway from Woodman's tour was that he made me comfortable with the area and its unfamiliar atmosphere and environment, which I might not have done if I had gone by myself for the first time, especially at night. Some suggest visiting Santa Fe during the day at first, when it is presumably safer and easier to learn the layout, and when the atmosphere and environment would be less overwhelming. In fact, some of the daytime girls that I later met told me that they only work during the day because the nighttime environment was too overwhelming or "loco" (in their words) for them.

I had historically been wary of street girls but eventually decided to take the plunge after I could no longer resist the quality of some of the talent on display. In retrospect, I wish that I had opted for street girls earlier on, as the quality of their service was more consistently good than that of the club girls (but not as good as that of the better club girls), and their rooms were better. Street girls usually had lower rates (typically 40-50 k) than club girls (typically 60 k), if saving 10-20 k is important to you. The street and club scenes are not entirely separate, as some street girls may wander in and out of the clubs.

I had read before my trip that Atunes, Troya, and Fiebre were the best clubs, with which I would agree, but I would also add Paisas to that list. The quality of the talent and the facilities at other clubs was generally lower. The clubs are mostly open at night, but Atunes is strictly a daytime / happy hour club, and some lower-end clubs are also open during the day. The atmosphere of Atunes reminded me of Rumba in Sosua back in the day. The daytime girls, in Atunes or on the street, struck me as less hardened and had a "kinder, gentler" look and vibe, often of the MILF or "girl next door" variety.

Most girls do not work for clubs but move in and out of them; they may nonetheless prefer certain clubs, as I did. There were a few dancers that appeared to work for the house, doing lap dances or otherwise entertaining bottle service guys. They were often the hottest girls but may be so busy on stage or with bottle service guys that it might be hard to pull them. Paisas worked well for me because it had good lighting, decent rooms, music that was not deafeningly loud, and not overcrowded. It attracted more paisas, blondes, and other types that I like. Fiebre attracted the most and the hottest girls and had the best session rooms but was overcrowded, dark, and deafeningly loud to the point that it was often hard to discuss even basic stuff, like pricing and services. Troya put on the best stage show, and I found some good hoes there, but the rooms sucked, to the point of detracting from sessions.

The physical quality of the talent was often quite high for such cheap places and offered far more variety than the homogeneity of Medellin, with a wide range of girls from across the country and Venezuela. Venezuelans were abundant, but I did not find them any better, on average, than Colombians in terms of appearance, service, or pricing. The tits & ass types (often of the silicone variety) were more common than the evident fixation with flaquitas in some Medellin circles. Santa Fe is definitely a "locals' joint" on a massive scale, so the composition of the talent pool reflects the tastes of Colombian guys, not gringos. The orientation toward gringo tastes in many gringo-oriented venues has been an issue for me, as my taste in women is more consistent with that of Latinos. I remember seeing those short & skinny girls when I came to Medellin for the first time and wondered, "where are all the huge tits & asses for which Colombia is famous?" Well, apparently they are in Santa Fe.

The male: female ratio was less advantageous than most gringo-oriented venues, sometimes roughly 1:1. Girls are far less likely to make the first move here, perhaps because the numbers are more advantageous for them, and in keeping with the more traditional gender norms of many Colombians. It is the polar opposite of Costa Rica or Sosua, where girls fly at you from across the room and jump down your throat if you happen to glance in their general direction for a split second. Flirting with them from a distance usually does not get them to come over. One must approach them proactively, physically, and assertively, and even then they may seem aloof, standoffish, or unresponsive. Extended "interviews" may be impractical in clubs at night due to noise, overcrowding, and the fast, high-volume nature of the business usually just enough to discuss rates and services and not enough to assess chemistry and establish rapport, as I prefer, which probably contributed to some bad sessions that I had.

Santa Fe sessions are typically "hit it & quit it" engagements of 15-20 minutes. Some girls offer to extend sessions if you have not busted a nut by that point and you are willing pay for another time increment. Others are not clock-watchers at all; I spent over an hour in the room with the club girl in the pink dress in the below photo. She did not charge me for any more time (but did ask for a well-deserved tip at the end, which I provided) and even initiated a second round of CIM (I had not requested or negotiated CIM up front), which she miraculously extracted from me after having already drained my nuts thoroughly in the first round. A few girls left the room promptly but chilled with me at length in the club for post-leche GFE, from which it was actually hard to extricate myself. I almost had to pry one of them loose with a crow bar when she started talking about having white babies.

Santa Fe is definitely a high-volume environment, and I wonder how many sessions girls need each night in order to earn enough money. The girls there did occasionally ask me some "screening" questions, as they do in other, lower-volume environments, to assess one's potential desirability as a client. One question that several Santa Fe girls asked me up front, and I have never heard anywhere else, is "how many times have you made love today?" Note that the question is not "have you made love today?" but "how many times have you made love today?" I would wager that they were trying to gauge how easy or hard it would be to get me to bust a nut, and how long it might take.

Payment in Santa Fe is always up front. Most girls covered room costs out of their own fees, but a few asked me to pay for the rooms; they were so cheap (like 6 k) that I saw no need to quibble about it. Club room attendants ask for tips before the session, which Woodman described as a good investment, as a good tip may cause them to "forget" to knock on the door when time is up. Rooms in the clubs often left a lot to be desired, lacking such basics as pillows on the bed or towels. They do have toilets, sinks, and showers, so you can wash your equipment after a session in anticipation of the next one. I made do without pillows by rolling my jeans into a ball and used bed sheets (which they do change after each session) to dry myself off out of the shower the first time, after which I brought my own washcloth. Rooms in the short-time hotels that street girls used were consistently of higher quality.

The quality of the service varied tremendously; the best girls outperformed the typical or even the better Medellin Facebook girls, while the worst began so badly that I just aborted and left. If you like scrounging through cheap shit for diamonds in the rough, Santa Fe is the place for you. In contrast to the prevailing GFE of Medellin, the more vigorous and freaky sexual style here leaned toward PSE.

My main problem with the service was the dominance of CBJ, which is normally a showstopper for me. A majority of girls were CBJ-only, including more of the hotter girls, who can get away with it. The minority of BBBJ girls charged extra for it: 10 k on the low end, 20 k was more typical, and 40 k on the high end. A few did CIM at their own initiative, and one even swallowed at her own initiative.

Santa Fe girls were less photo-friendly than anywhere else I have been; most refused. Of those that said yes, many wanted more money, only allowed body shots, or both. I have included a few samples here.

The place to stay is the cheap, chica-friendly Hotel Ibis Bogota Museo. The rooms are small and basic but of good quality. Breakfast is available for a modest fee, and there is an on-site Peruvian restaurant and a nearby "gastronomy zone" with many restaurants. There are several banks just across the street. Cab rides to and from Santa Fe should not take more than 5-10 minutes and were dirt cheap.

Santa Fe was a fulfilling experience, despite its major flaws. It took me out of my comfort zone and exposed me to a very different scene, some of which fit my tastes better than I expected and may outdo Medellin in some ways. There are some real diamonds here, but the rough in which you find them is very rough, which is to be expected at such low prices. I might return someday for a 3-4 day fuckfest, as a cheaper, more convenient (for me) alternative to Tijuana. Those of you with flights to Medellin or Brazil though Bogota might consider stopping there for a few days, if it sounds appealing to you. Those of you that go to Medellin to scrounge for cheap diamonds in the rough in Centro or Mayorista might find Santa Fe more rewarding in that regard. High-rollers and those that might find Santa Fe intimidating, however, should probably skip Bogota altogether, as I will explain in another post.

[GringoItaliano]

Yes Gringo! The streety sweeties!

Also a good economical way to try the girl and if it is all good, get phone number for extended date.Yes, in retrospect, I wish I had brought one back to my room for an extended date, but I decided to keep shopping around.

What would you say is a reasonable rate for an overnight session with a girl from Santa Fe? In most other Spanish-speaking destinations, including Medellin, the overnight rate is twice the hourly rate. I would imagine it works differently in Santa Fe, where they have a larger number of shorter sessions each night.

[GringoItaliano]

Very good Sante Fe report that gives me a pretty good idea of the place. Could you give an example of the beginning of your worst experiences that caused you to abort? Was noise an issue for you at the Ibis? How was the ceviche at the Peruvian restaurant?Well, one girl was either coked out of her mind or just naturally hyperactive or had ADHD, I could hardly get her to stay in place and focus on the task at hand. In a calmer environment, I might have spotted that problem beforehand, but it was so dark, noisy, and crowded in Fiebre that it was hard to read her before taking the plunge.

Noise was not an issue for me at the Ibis. The ceviche was great, but watch out for the jalapeos, they are extremely powerful.

[IronQuinn]

Hi guys,

I haven't done any mongering in Bogota (yet), but have in the north on the Caribbean coast. I found at least a third of the girls I was with had baby damage (I usually go for 18-22). In your personal experiences, is Bogota similar, more, or less?

[Mr Enternational]

Yes, in retrospect, I wish I had brought one back to my room for an extended date, but I decided to keep shopping around.

What would you say is a reasonable rate for an overnight session with a girl from Santa Fe? In most other Spanish-speaking destinations, including Medellin, the overnight rate is twice the hourly rate. I would imagine it works differently in Santa Fe, where they have a larger number of shorter sessions each night.Which girls from Santa Fe? The ones at the casas always tell me 100K. I don't know about the ones in the clubs. Of course I never take any up on it because I have plenty of non-pros to keep me busy, and now even a girlfriend that stays the night.

[JjBee62]

Hi guys,

I haven't done any mongering in Bogota (yet), but have in the north on the Caribbean coast. I found at least a third of the girls I was with had baby damage (I usually go for 18-22). In your personal experiences, is Bogota similar, more, or less?It's Colombia. If they're over 18 expect them to have at least 1 baby. Most will have some baby damage, although in many cases it is only noticeable if you're looking for it.

[Eszpresszo]

Hi guys,

I haven't done any mongering in Bogota (yet), but have in the north on the Caribbean coast. I found at least a third of the girls I was with had baby damage (I usually go for 18-22). In your personal experiences, is Bogota similar, more, or less?Yes. Colombia is not a land of young virgins. However, you need to deal with the reality that in the third world women frequently give birth, and often after they do give birth they end up in prostitution as a financial necessity. That's the way it is in Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Dominican Republic. Baby damage is just part of being a women and doesn't bother me at all unless their pussy is just wrecked from it or its just really visibly bad. If you have trouble with it stay out of the developing world. Otherwise consider the more expensive option of going to Europe where a lot of working women have postponed motherhood, often permanently. I mongered with various women of various background and various ages in Berlin and none had kids. Women have different motivations for getting into prostitution there. Some have regular jobs but do a bit of wh*ring on the side for the excitement and the extra cash.

[Villainy]

It's Colombia. If they're over 18 expect them to have at least 1 baby. Most will have some baby damage, although in many cases it is only noticeable if you're looking for it.In my trips to Medellin, I would echo JjBee62's comments. I've enjoyed two older women almost 30 years old both of whom have had 3 children. If you know to look carefully, you'll see some crow's feet along their hips.

And maybe their breasts will hang a little lower during doggie but unless you're in full on inspection mode you might not even see it.

Do you really care? As long as it isn't an eyesore and you get outstanding performance. I'm finding there is a niche in those late 20's girls who have had kids. They know they are competing against the hot bodies in their late teens or early 20's and they need to keep some extra income flowing in. So their performance can frequently surprise you (and I mean on the good / incredible side). The ones who have serious, noticeable baby damage will hide it in their photos, the others (like the two I mentioned above) will show their bodies (without photo-shopping) and the performance results will be (at least in some of my experiences) far above average.

[The Tall Man]

Yes. Colombia is not a land of young virgins. However, you need to deal with the reality that in the third world women frequently give birth, and often after they do give birth they end up in prostitution as a financial necessity. That's the way it is in Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Dominican Republic. Baby damage is just part of being a women and doesn't bother me at all unless their pussy is just wrecked from it or its just really visibly bad. If you have trouble with it stay out of the developing world. Otherwise consider the more expensive option of going to Europe where a lot of working women have postponed motherhood, often permanently. I mongered with various women of various background and various ages in Berlin and none had kids. Women have different motivations for getting into prostitution there. Some have regular jobs but do a bit of wh*ring on the side for the excitement and the extra cash.IMHO, in my earlier days I was put off by baby damage, don't get me wrong I appreciate a firm stomach with no baby damage BUT truth be told my now favorite girl in Medellin (non-pro girl next door type) is a 23 year old that had a kid about 3 years back, bad scaring baby damage but she is such a passionate lover that I don't even see the damage, what a hell of a fuck!

The Tall Man.

[Woodman09]

Yes, in retrospect, I wish I had brought one back to my room for an extended date, but I decided to keep shopping around.

What would you say is a reasonable rate for an overnight session with a girl from Santa Fe? In most other Spanish-speaking destinations, including Medellin, the overnight rate is twice the hourly rate. I would imagine it works differently in Santa Fe, where they have a larger number of shorter sessions each night.I don't do too many all nights but I would offer 200-300 mil for 2-3 hour session, Maybe more. Also cab fare is usually expected.

[Eszpresszo]

I don't do too many all nights but I would offer 200-300 mil for 2-3 hour session, Maybe more. Also cab fare is usually expected.? Really? I was paying 70 k for a 1-hour session in a real brothel. No more than 40 k for a quickie off the street? What are these Santa Fe girls doing? Multiplying their 15 minute rate into an hourly rate? Its not like they are that busy. I walked around a bit for two nights and noticed between beers from one joint to another, that I'd seen some girls were standing around drawing no attention and when I came back standing in the same place. What is everyone's take on Colombia for LT? Maybe Thailand and the PI are the places to be for long-time.

[Bleble]

First day in Bogota,

Went to lido. Got a drink for 50 miles. Got 2 drinks for 2 ladies for another 100 mil. Top for two for 100 mil. Tip stripper who pole danced 10 mil. Found out private room is 250 mil, on top of 300 mil for each girl. Very expensive place. Place closes at 3 am so you can arrange something for after hour. Girls quoted 300 mil Todo la noche after it closes. But I was too tired. Went to another place to check out. Very cute girl quoted 600 mil Todo la noche. Wtf is going on. Seems like north of chapinero is rather expensive.

[Viajando Musico]

First day in Bogota,

Went to lido. Got a drink for 50 miles. Got 2 drinks for 2 ladies for another 100 mil. Top for two for 100 mil. Tip stripper who pole danced 10 mil. Found out private room is 250 mil, on top of 300 mil for each girl. Very expensive place. Place closes at 3 am so you can arrange something for after hour. Girls quoted 300 mil Todo la noche after it closes. But I was too tired. Went to another place to check out. Very cute girl quoted 600 mil Todo la noche. Wtf is going on. Seems like north of chapinero is rather expensive.If you can get a upper tier Lido girl to take 300 K for TLN, it's not a bad deal at all. The most I got under 300 k was for 2 hours outside the club. Could it be it was already 3 AM, and she thought she only has to stay for 2-3 hours?

[Viajando Musico]

I recently spent a few days in Bogota on 2 occasions and had a blast both times. My experience was similar to many of the posts here, especially to what GringoItaliano just posted, so I won't go into details on the chicas, but rather more on general info.

I spent time in downtown Santa Fe area, in those high end clubs in the North around Parque 93, and casas in Chapinero. I went to Santa Fe on my first day, and hired Woodman to tour me around. I am no stranger to Bogota and speak Spanish, but decided to play safe. Santa Fe could be intimidating to many people, me included, so hiring Woodman was a good decision and well worth it. Woodman was nice enough to even split the 4-hour appointment I had into 2-2 hour periods, 1 during the day and 1 at night just to make sure that I saw the RLD in different hours. After his tour and I learned more about the lay of the land, I was able and felt comfortable to frequent the RLD a few more times alone, of course with lots of care.

Accomodation.

I stayed my first 2 nights at an airbnb apartment in a brand new building in downtown about 15 min. Walk from the RLD. The following 2 nights I stayed in Ibis Museo for $37/ night. I did take a Lido girl to the airbnb place, but will never do that again. The security and receptionist of the building gave you very strange looks when you walk in with a prostitute. Remember this is a high end apartment in Colombian standard, although nothing luxury to me, we are not their preferred residents.

Ibis on the other hand is a little closer from RLD with more amenities and the convenience of a hotel. Around the hotel there are also many small eateries and coffee shops. National Museum is right next door if you are into history. This is a good value, well-run BUSINESS hotel and will be a good base if Santa Fe is your main focus. Though I never brought back any girl for the 2 nights I stayed there, I heard it is GF. I booked for double, and the young guy who checked me in saw me alone at check-in reminded me that any visitor to the room had to register at the front desk. I guessed it is not a rare practice from guests who stayed here.

On my last night before departing, I stayed at the infamous Tequendama Hotel where the wife and family of Pablo Escobar lodged at one point while negotiating deals with the authority. This hotel is not GF, so don't embarrass yourself of doing so. Once a grand hotel in its early days, the hotel itself now is very dated and rooms were very noisy with all passing car traffic. Even the hotel tried very hard to please, with other better options of accommodation around, I will not come back to this hotel either.

I also spent a total of 5 nights in 2 different hotels in Chapinero while exploring all the casas in the area. First 2 nights in a boutique hotel on Calle 66 and la Septima, and 3 more nights in Hilton Chapinero. The tight security in both places obviously made it very difficult and embarrassing to sneak up a girl if not preregistered with you. Worth mentioning is that while nicer and more upscale, the Hilton offers very competitive weekend rate including breakfast.

As I posted before, in Bogota, airbnb places don't really provide convenience for bringing back girls. There are security and reception at the entrance of every building. More often at a good building, you also have to register the girl, so you have the same walk of shame and hassles as staying in a hotel. Hotels at least provide faster response to any request you might have, and is more comfortable in many aspects. In the cold nights in Bogota, you naked ass won't be freezing in the middle of the night. I strictly chose hotels after my first 2 nights at the Airbnb place.

Chicas.

Though I had only got to know Santa Fe a short while ago, it became my new favorite playground in Colombia, and I had been to all 4 major Colombian Cities numerous times. I kicked myself for not visiting Santa Fe much earlier. I had doubts about girl quality before my trip, but the experience proved the concern wasn't necessary. All my encounters in Santa Fe were with girls between 7. 5-8 in my scale, similar to the ones I found in those high-end Northern clubs. I even saw a couple 8. 5's. As a reference, I rate most girls in Lido 7. 5- 8 with occasionally 8. 5's. Though less in #'s those 7. 5 and above, they are there, enough for you to enjoy a short trip without repeating or competing with other bros to get their attention. Almost all girls I met were very engaging, of course after careful screening and some small talks.

While in Santa Fe, I only used the onsite rooms twice, once at a corner club that I don't remember the name when I arrived on my first day with a fresh on board young Venezolana, and the other at the day time club Atunes. After further experiences in Santa Fe. I would suggest the use of short term motels in the area, and pay for more time with the Chicas. You will get much better experience than a quickie on site aside from a cleaner, more confortable room with running hot water, no walk of shame or strange look from anybody and no worry about girls stealing your belongings. Among many other advantages. And the girls love taking hot shower with you joining in. They cost of the motel room about 30-45 k for 4 hours, and every girl knows which one to go. I pulled 4 girls out of different clubs in Santa Fe, one at 160 k after hard negotiation, 2 at 200 k and the highest one at 250 k for a 19 yrs old Venezolana who looked like an American teenager fresh out of high school. All 4 stayed the whole 2 hours section. All 4 girls were young and very beautiful, and gave me incredible GFE with DFK and BBBJ. I also found the girls are very open to negotiation of what you have in mind. The best thing was, no salida for the club girls when you take them to the nearby motels. Some would say they had to pay the club, not true. They all know how to avoid it. And it looked to me that they all come and go as they wish.

While in Chapinero, and while mostly tried to recuperate myself at a more serene neighborhood, I also went to a few casas nearby including recently discussed Rosaquilla on Calle 64 and Carrera 16 A. In general, quality in these casas was a notch down than what you can find in Santa Fe. Or I should say, the 7. 5 and above are many less in #'s. The best I had were a couple girls at 7. 5, and this was after scrolling quite a few casas in a few days. Most girls in these casas were well below 6. The 2-7. 5's I had, one form Rosaquilla and one from el Angel Azur, were both wonderful GFE's with long passionate DFKs, BBBJ's. The girl from Rosaquilla still initiates whatsapp messages with me till now. I had another 2 good sections in these casas, but not as memorable as the 2 steamy ones mentioned. One drawback about these casas is the rooms on site really are not desirable. But for 70 k-80 k an hour, what more can you ask? Again, I met with the Rodaquilla girl the next day at a motel right next to the casa for 3 hours after her shift, 52 k for the room, and 200 k for her, roughly $90 and she delivered one of my best experiences in Bogota.

I did return to my old playground in the North, Lido twice and Juan Pablo Zhivago once. Went to Lido on a very slow raining night after exploring Santa Fe with Woodman, and every girl complained the lack of customers. An old amiga remembered me and came by to say Hi. I heard some ridiculous offers by the chicas and was not going to pay that. So just got the contact # from a very attractive tall morenita at 1. 73 m who not only has beautiful face, but also incredible body figure and a bubble butt. I found out that she lives in the South of Bogota, so invited her to my bnb apartment in downtown the next night. We agreed for P450 K. She came over at 7 PM and stayed till the next morning. Having learned that more economical options in Santa Fe after the first day, the second time I went to Lido and to Juan Pablo Zhivago a few days later, I just relaxed and chilled even I did click with a chica at Juan Pablo Zhivago, but decided to pass at the end.

The Rest.

While taking a coffee break one day in Santa Fe, I stroke up a conversation with this small convenient store owner and his friend. The friend claimed that he works at a club in Zona Rosa, and was telling me that girls in the Northern clubs are "cleaner", because they went through health exams more regularly mandated by the clubs while in Santa Fe RLD, none is required. But for himself, he can only afford a quickie with girls in Santa Fe. I don't know how true to his statement? What I do know now is, if you don't mind the seedy neighborhood and can deal with the characters around you, Santa Fe offer much better selections and value. The 2 blocks where most of the famous clubs located are not that dangerous like the rest of the RLD. If you taxi in and out and only walk these 2 short blocks with care, you should be fine. The motels are all within very short walk from the clubs.

Different from my previous trips, the altitude didn't bother me as much, but the weather did. It rained the most days while I was there, making it bothersome to walk around, especially when I was in Chapinero moving from one casa to another. I didn't study the weather pattern in Bogot before arrival, but heard from locals that some months rain more than others. So avoid the raining season can be a better idea.

My trips to Colombia just got better and better each time. Before I would rate Medellin as equal destination to Bogota, but now with the added knowledge and experience of Santa Fe, I'the say Bogota comes out ahead. I wouldn't say "Bogota is off beaten path" as GringoItaliano put it in his post. It is such an immense city that one just easily been ignored. So many economical options with good quality girls in Santa Fe make Bogota one of the best destinations for this sport. Santa Fe definitely is not for everybody. The possession of language skill certainly plays a big part of your experience here. Caution should be applied at all time, and never let your guard down. Although unfortunate incidents were not common but did happened, it only took once to ruin your trip and experience, worst yet if it involves any physical injury. I have been to Tijuana, and for comparison, I felt less easier in Santa Fe, even nervous in some parts of the Santa Fe RLD.

[Bleble]

I went to Troya at around 3 pm. Paid 250 mil for 2 hrs and 36 mil for room. Had anal multiple times, vagina multiple times. I didn't want BBBJ not my kind of thing. The girl was active, rode me. Overall a good experience. Used a number of condoms.

[Bleble]

The room was off site (nearby). She is one of the dancers there and is all natural (no silicone either in the breasts or butt).


I went to Troya at around 3 pm. Paid 250 mil for 2 hrs and 36 mil for room. Had anal multiple times, vagina multiple times. I didn't want BBBJ not my kind of thing. The girl was active, rode me. Overall a good experience. Used a number of condoms.

[WhoTheBest]

I spent the second week of my recent two-week trip to Colombia in Bogota, after spending a week in Medellin. Many Colombia mongers focus so much on Medellin and paisas that it is easy to forget that Colombia is a large and diverse country, in which paisas are just one regional culture. I previously had enough exposure to non-paisa chicas in Cartagena and the Dutch Caribbean to known that they might be just as appealing to me as paisas, if not more so. Colombia's capital and largest city, which attracts chicas from across the country and also from neighboring Venezuela, was a logical place to explore further. Bogota is also off the beaten path for most gringo mongers; I liked the idea of exploring a more "pristine" and relatively gringo-free environment. I also place more emphasis on non-mongering activities than most mongers, and Bogota appealed to me in that regard as well, with about four days worth of sightseeing, including museums, historic buildings, Monserrate, and so on....Great report. I'm definitely going threw there. I wanted know is it possible get girl out club to your hotel instead of knock it down in club? Is there exit fee? Is hotel ibis crowded? Do they I the the girls when they come in? Is that only chick guests friendly hotel in area? That bro be safe.

[GringoItaliano]

The room was off site (nearby). She is one of the dancers there and is all natural (no silicone either in the breasts or butt).Was she the one with jet black hair and very white skin from either Armenia or Manizales?

[Routard]

The friend claimed that he works at a club in Zona Rosa, and was telling me that girls in the Northern clubs are "cleaner", because they went through health exams more regularly mandated by the clubs while in Santa Fe RLD, none is required. But for himself, he can only afford a quickie with girls in Santa Fe. I don't know how true to his statement? This is bullshit, there is no mandatory health exam in the northern clubs.

[DonKey82]

If you want TLN from Lido etc, is it possible to get them earlier in the night? Or you have to wait until closing time? I've got to get some work done during the days on my trip next week, so starting an all night session at 3 am every day isn't really an option. My normal mongering MO in Asia is to hit the clubs early around 9/10 pm and find one for the night, not sure if that game flies here.


If you can get a upper tier Lido girl to take 300 K for TLN, it's not a bad deal at all. The most I got under 300 k was for 2 hours outside the club. Could it be it was already 3 AM, and she thought she only has to stay for 2-3 hours?

[Routard]

If you want TLN from Lido etc, is it possible to get them earlier in the night? Or you have to wait until closing time? I've got to get some work done during the days on my trip next week, so starting an all night session at 3 am every day isn't really an option. My normal mongering MO in Asia is to hit the clubs early around 9/10 pm and find one for the night, not sure if that game flies here.Igf you want to take the girl out of the club before 3 am, there is a bar fee of 150 000. Expect also to pay more for the girl as between 9 pm and 3 am it's peak time for her. After 3 am, prices drop a lot as it's her last option before club closing.

[MiguelitoJJJJJJones]

This is the post that inspired me to buy a membership here, but alas. I'm in the US and can't purchase.

I'll be in Bogota in 3 weeks. Should I plan on carrying a sign around Santa Fe that says "Are you Woodman?" What you describe below is exactly what I was looking forward to.

I speak decent Spanish, and mongering isn't new to me. Bogota is and so I would really like to hit SF with an experienced hombre for the 1st run.

Woodman. How can we make this happen??


I just Love Santa Fe because I can leave my apartment and be boning some hot girl in 10 minutes!! I Make sure and take my Viagra before leaving!

Santa Fe Pussy Fest.

Thursday 8-30 for 3 hours cavorting with the Streetie sweeties. There were gaggles of girls on 23 d at least 20 18-20 somethings lined up. They kept changing and there would be new girls every few minutes, it's fantastic!!

[DWorldTravel69]

I just came back from a trip to Bogota and wanted to share my experience.

It was my first time in Colombia and there were a lot of unknowns and this forum helped me navigate.

Being from the states, I couldn't subscribe to the forum so couldn't connect with anyone local.

Nevertheless, I had my share of fun going around town and experiencing different casas.

I arrived in BOG on Friday night around 10 pm and stayed in Chapinero area for few nights. When you first arrive it sure as hell looks intimidating at night. Not many street lights and feels like you are in the slum.

I couldn't find out whether any of the casas were open passed 10 so called it a night and decided to go out during the day.

Next day, I walked around Chapinero area in the morning to get the feel for the area and walked by the Pussy club and there were bunch of folks just hanging around and didn't really feel safe even during the broad daylight. So I took some cash out from the ATM as suggested by many and then headed to Chicas millenia. It was about midday and took uber to Rosquilla and they had about 4 ladies. I went with one of the girls with big boobs from Venezuela. 30 k for 30 minutes. It was the first one on the trip and it didn't quite last 30 minutes so we spent the rest of the time just chatting. Got her number for the future.

Then I took a cab to Candelaria to do a little sight seeing and then walked to the Paloquemao which is about 30 minute walk and went passed the lower part of SF where you see the Trans just hanging out on the Calle 19. I was tempted to turn up the street but didn't have the "balls" to walk up passed all those trannies.

After visiting Paloquemao, I took the uber Chicas Millenia. They had few more ladies and took one of the short girls that looked the best. She was Colombian and I would say 7 in the scale. The session was very mechanical but she had a tight body and didn't have any issues finishing the job. It was 50 k and again got her number for outcall. She had a promo where it's 100 an hour for outcall.

In the evening, I went to the massage place in Mezzanine and literally when you walk up to the second level, the girls will whistle and try to get you in. I went in to one of them and had a session with a Venezolana. A decent massage with some oil and everything was covered. She didn't even offer the option BBBJ for extra propina.

The first day was a success and decided to stay in since I didn't want to go to the club alone where all the unpleasant characters hung out. Maybe I should've taken the uber in and out of the club but after 3 I was done. LOL.

A lot of places were closed on Sunday so options were limited. I went to the Divas spa mid day and only one girl was there. She said few more girls would come later in the day but would be all morenas. I was ok with that but was not OK waiting so I left the place to try another day. Since I was in the mood for a massage I went to Abadunai spa in uptown. They had 2 girls and both were very cute. One morena and one blanca. I sessioned with the blanca and everything was on the table with her. BBBJ was 50 k extra and anal was 100 k. The girl was more GFE where we chat after the session about random things and I would definitely return as the rooms are decent size and the girls I saw were prettier than other places.

Next few days I did the tourist things which you guys probably don't care about and visited random casas, and had prepagos in the evenings. For the casas, I tried the Chicas millenia and went back to Rosquille and the type of girl you meet depends on the day of the week. You may see hot chicks some days and other days you won't. It really depends. For the prepagos, the price seems to range from 150-250. I noticed that there were more ads with higher rate on the weekends. I had one in Usaquen and inquired about her services and everything was included except anal and BBBJ but when I got there she had restrictions. I didn't want to argue but I suppose she wasn't in the mood to do more. She asked to pay upfront so I gave her the money and then got to work. It was a mechanical session and all the restricted turned me off. Anyway, pounded her different ways and left.

All the places had their set prices and were pretty honest for the most part except the Millenia. It's not a lot of money but I didn't like the fact they just change the prices on the fly.

Overall I had good time in Bogota and next time I return, I will seek out Woodman for a tour of SF. I need to visit the place to compare with Casas experience.

One thing I did notice in all the casa / massage parlors is that they all seems to be honest with the price and all the extras depend on the girl except at Chicas millenia. Here the prices will vary depending on who the Jefe is. When I went back on day in the evening, the girl said it was 80 k for 30 min and 90 k for 60. I told her I paid less on the previous day and she checked and she was OK to go with me for less. I don't know what she said to the Jefe but whatever she agreed to my price and we went up.

[Bleble]

Was she the one with jet black hair and very white skin from either Armenia or Manizales?She is dark black hair. As to her skin tone, I don't remember. Either fair skin or tanned.

[Eszpresszo]

I speak decent Spanish, and mongering isn't new to me.You won't need any help, in that case.

[MiguelitoJJJJJJones]

You won't need any help, in that case.Well thanks for the vote of confidence I'm still interested in a more "personalized" tour with a local down there to get started, at least in SF. Woodman. You should open a kiosk on a corner! Haha.

[Woodman09]

This is the post that inspired me to buy a membership here, but alas. I'm in the US and can't purchase.

I'll be in Bogota in 3 weeks. Should I plan on carrying a sign around Santa Fe that says "Are you Woodman?" What you describe below is exactly what I was looking forward to.

I speak decent Spanish, and mongering isn't new to me. Bogota is and so I would really like to hit SF with an experienced hombre for the 1st run.

Woodman. How can we make this happen??I have been offering Tour Guide Bogota / Travel Assistance 'in the Bogota Craigslist services.

[Valy Santos]

Hi guys,

I was with my best friend from 07.09. 24.09 in Colombia.

We visited Bogota, Medellin and Santa Marta. But Santa Marta is for me not for mongering.

For Bogota I recommend to book on first day Woodman09. He will show the best places in Santa Fe and will give very important tips.

I had for rest of the week a very cool Colombian guide. His name is Adriano. He drives us everywhere and want really small money (you pay for hour).

We needed him every night about 3-4 hours and paid 30-40 dollars for the night. Inkl. Car and gas. Also no fees extra.

Adriano is very trustworthy and took always care of us.

I am sure we save a lot of money by him. He knows every club in Bogota. From the cheapest to most expensive.

If somebody is interested, write me a PM and I will send his Whatsapp-number.

Best regards.

Jimmy.

[Oil Stain]

I got 2955 and 2959 to the dollar on the two withdrawls I did at bancolombia next to centro commercial San Martin cra 7. The joint across the street from pussy house has a better line up than ph does now. Be careful going up and down the stairs as the head room is Very low. I took a 6.5-7 out of their on Thursday night 11 pm for 100 k exit, 200 k for 3 hours in my room. She stayed all night. Ran into a little Venezuelan stunner in Paisas Friday night at mid night and ended up with her for the next four days at 300 k per day plus food. Is it me or do these Venezuelans always eat fast? Every one I have eaten with inhales food. Another great time in Bogota. Oil.

[DonKey82]

Thought I'd pay back all the great info from the forum with a brief report.

First night was jet lagged as hell but went out for an enjoyable tour of Santa Fe with Woodman (highly recommend for anyone visiting town). We went to loads of clubs so to be honest cannot remember them all. But found a hot Venezuelan at one of the bars, went upstairs for 50 k. Great girl, but time too short. Would recommend asking them for an hour if possible. Crazy place anyway and must be seen.

Next day checked out the confusingly named Abudubai spa off Routard's list. I think I was limited here by my Spanish abilities (nil). A girl opened the door and just lead me into one of the side rooms. Presumably I should have asked to see a lineup or something but she wasn't bad so just went with it. 180 k for pretty shit massage but decent sex. Facilities nice and clean. Only saw one other girl while I was in there (she came out to answer the phone when I was leaving) but maybe worth a revisit.

Today tried to check out Chicas Milenio. Put the address from the lists into Google and Uber. But when I arrived am pretty sure it was the wrong spot. Should have looked more closely at the forum map! Ended up abandoning the mission after 30 mins of walking around some random neighbourhood. Tonight have gone out and checked out a few of the Northern clubs. While most of them say they open at 6 pm or 7 pm, seems so far that that is too early to go. I'm more used to Asian mongering where you get there at the start of the night to get the best pick. But so far went to Lalo's. Got there maybe 745 pm. Place was dead. I was the only guy and maybe 6 girls, one or two passable but honestly no hotter than the Santa Fe girls from day one. Also as everyone has mentioned drinks at these places are proper money. US $26 for a single scotch rocks at Lalo's tonight. Can get a girl for that in Philippines or Bangkok so a bit of a change!

Then walked over to Juan Pablo Zhivago. Only one girl in the place. One hour more seemed to be the call at both the places (was around 815 pm). So walked back to hotel and waiting an hour or two to head back out and see if things have picked up.

[World Travel 69]

Here is a little map. GPS will be close. 4.65855, -74.06297


Thought I'd pay back all the great info from the forum with a brief report.

First night was jet lagged as hell but went out for an enjoyable tour of Santa Fe with Woodman (highly recommend for anyone visiting town). We went to loads of clubs so to be honest cannot remember them all. But found a hot Venezuelan at one of the bars, went upstairs for 50 k. Great girl, but time too short. Would recommend asking them for an hour if possible. Crazy place anyway and must be seen.

Next day checked out the confusingly named Abudubai spa off Routard's list. I think I was limited here by my Spanish abilities (nil). A girl opened the door and just lead me into one of the side rooms. Presumably I should have asked to see a lineup or something but she wasn't bad so just went with it. 180 k for pretty shit massage but decent sex. Facilities nice and clean. Only saw one other girl while I was in there (she came out to answer the phone when I was leaving) but maybe worth a revisit.

Today tried to check out Chicas Milenio. Put the address from the lists into Google and Uber. But when I arrived am pretty sure it was the wrong spot. Should have looked more closely at the forum map! Ended up abandoning the mission after 30 mins of walking around some random neighbourhood. Tonight have gone out and checked out a few of the Northern clubs. While most of them say they open at 6 pm or 7 pm, seems so far that that is too early to go. I'm more used to Asian mongering where you get there at the start of the night to get the best pick. But so far went to Lalo's. Got there maybe 745 pm. Place was dead. I was the only guy and maybe 6 girls, one or two passable but honestly no hotter than the Santa Fe girls from day one. Also as everyone has mentioned drinks at these places are proper money. US $26 for a single scotch rocks at Lalo's tonight. Can get a girl for that in Philippines or Bangkok so a bit of a change!

Then walked over to Juan Pablo Zhivago. Only one girl in the place. One hour more seemed to be the call at both the places (was around 815 pm). So walked back to hotel and waiting an hour or two to head back out and see if things have picked up.

[TheBiller22]

From the looks of it, it seems like Bogota is a bit more expensive than Medellin. For those of you that have been to both is that accurate? I just came from Medellin and I had several Facebook girls accept anywhere from 80 k-150 k (negotiated) and casa girls for 45 k and 50 k. I'm reading the prices on this thread and they all seem about 40-50 k more. Even the hotels.

Are the girls in Bogotá more expensive because they're that much prettier or is it just the market?

[Eszpresszo]

From the looks of it, it seems like Bogota is a bit more expensive than Medellin.Its not. I think you might be looking at it wrong.

[Eszpresszo]

Today tried to check out Chicas Milenio. It's interesting how much interest there is in this place in the past month, since I wrote a field report about how they tried to fleece me. But, as they say, you mileage may vary.

[GreenBud]

It's interesting how much interest there is in this place in the past month, since I wrote a field report about how they tried to fleece me. But, as they say, you mileage may vary.I think it's because Routard recommended Chicas Milenio on his Bogota's FAQ. That's why I went there initially. Out of the 5 casas I went to in Bogota, Chicas Milenio IMO is overall the best one (in terms of girls).

But it's good to let people know that girls will overcharge over there; that was the only casa I've been to where there were no prices posted anywhere.

Normally it seems they only try to overcharge you by 10 K or 20 K COP. But your numbers reminded me of one of my experiences over there. I asked this cute girl (the cutest girl I've seen over there; haven't seen her this year) if she did lesbian shows. She said yes; she pointed to her friend (who I thought was the 2nd cutest girl there). But she gave this large price (for Colombia); and the money was all upfront. Since she gave poor solo performance I said no. Later on I found out from my regular that they would have scammed me.

Important tip: if you have to tip for whatever reason, make sure you pay the standard fee (without the tip included), and then tip her the agreed upon amount after the deed.

[GreenBud]

Today tried to check out Chicas Milenio. Put the address from the lists into Google and Uber. But when I arrived am pretty sure it was the wrong spot. Should have looked more closely at the forum map! Ended up abandoning the mission after 30 mins of walking around some random neighbourhood.When using Uber, you need to put the address exactly in the standard form. All the spacing has to be correct. For example, you cannot enter 41A as "41 A".

Routard's FAQ October 2017 has the address as "Calle 71 #14 A-24". If you enter that on Google maps, it puts you at an incorrect address. You need to enter as "Calle 71 #14A-24". No space between the 14 and A.

Or you went there on a Sunday. Both Chicas Milenio and Chicas 2000 are closed on Sundays.

[Troloncio]

I think it's because Routard recommended Chicas Milenio on his Bogota's FAQ. That's why I went there initially. Out of the 5 casas I went to in Bogota, Chicas Milenio IMO is overall the best one (in terms of girls).

But it's good to let people know that girls will overcharge over there; that was the only casa I've been to where there were no prices posted anywhere.

Normally it seems they only try to overcharge you by 10 K or 20 K COP. But your numbers reminded me of one of my experiences over there. I asked this cute girl (the cutest girl I've seen over there; haven't seen her this year) if she did lesbian shows. She said yes; she pointed to her friend (who I thought was the 2nd cutest girl there). But she gave this large price (for Colombia); and the money was all upfront. Since she gave poor solo performance I said no. Later on I found out from my regular that they would have scammed me.

Important tip: if you have to tip for whatever reason, make sure you pay the standard fee (without the tip included), and then tip her the agreed upon amount after the deed.I also went to Chicas Milenio for Routard's recommendation. But I would say that most casas has cycles and there is a lot of variability in quality depending on the chicas they have at the moment. I am becoming a regular visitor of casas around chapinero and I would say that Bonita is better now in terms of quality and cheaper. Also Chicas 2000 has some gems like Luna, a very pretty Venezuelan with a nice ass.

[TuneFor]

Hello everyone,

Have been reading this awesome posts for last year and finally I will visit Colombia and check. Things from close range.

I am curious about those Facebook girls, how did you find them guys?

Will be in Bogota on Saturday so if anyone is for drink PM me.

[Eszpresszo]

I think it's because Routard recommended Chicas Milenio on his Bogota's FAQ. That's why I went there initially. Out of the 5 casas I went to in Bogota, Chicas Milenio IMO is overall the best one (in terms of girls).

But it's good to let people know that girls will overcharge over there; that was the only casa I've been to where there were no prices posted anywhere.That's precisely the reason I went, because of Routard's recommendation. But, I hadn't noted any recent FR on the place before my trip. Yes, the place did seem to have the prettiest girls, but I liked the Casa across the street better. Yes, they post the prices visibly at Chicas 2000 and both the girls I chose were able to deliver the goods. I regret not being able to go back a third time, as I saw a few cute things I wanted to check out. There were only three girls available the first morning I went, but they were all desirable and reflected an ethnic variety (blanca, morena, negra). When I have trouble making a choice between three girls, that's good enough for me.

[Radigan]

I want to give a big thanks to all the people that have shared their posts. This forum has been a wonderful help. Can anyone recommend their favorite legit professional massage spa? I don't need any extras. I just think it would be a great addition to my vacation to get a relaxing massage during the daytime before heading to Santa Fe for playtime. Also how much does a legit massage cost in Bogota?

Thanks.

[JHappyDog]

I guess you could go to the north of the city. Mezzanine and ask for only a regular massage. It may be harder to find a legit place than not. Routard would know best?


I want to give a big thanks to all the people that have shared their posts. This forum has been a wonderful help. Can anyone recommend their favorite legit professional massage spa? I don't need any extras. I just think it would be a great addition to my vacation to get a relaxing massage during the daytime before heading to Santa Fe for playtime. Also how much does a legit massage cost in Bogota?

Thanks.

[DWorldTravel69]

There are 2 Thai massage places northern part of the city. Ones called Baw Thai Spa and another called Bogo Thai massage.

You have to call and make reservation. I tried to walk in and they were full.


I want to give a big thanks to all the people that have shared their posts. This forum has been a wonderful help. Can anyone recommend their favorite legit professional massage spa? I don't need any extras. I just think it would be a great addition to my vacation to get a relaxing massage during the daytime before heading to Santa Fe for playtime. Also how much does a legit massage cost in Bogota?

Thanks.

[World Travel 69]

TripAdvisor's list:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g294074-Activities-c40-Bogota.html


I want to give a big thanks to all the people that have shared their posts. This forum has been a wonderful help. Can anyone recommend their favorite legit professional massage spa? I don't need any extras. I just think it would be a great addition to my vacation to get a relaxing massage during the daytime before heading to Santa Fe for playtime. Also how much does a legit massage cost in Bogota?

Thanks.

[Balimassage]

Had a 4 HR layover at the airport. Didn't see anything close on the Map but found something nearby on Mileroticos. SpaLatinO. Talked a bit on Whatsapp and headed over.

They have a few branches (sedes = hq). Went to the one in Fontibon at 830 p, they close at 9.

The place was 1. 5 miles from the airport. Taxi showed 95 and it looked like the guy gave me 2-20's change but turned out to be a ten and a twenty, so got fleeced there as I was't paying much attention. Would have Uber'd but was running close to their closing time.

Only 4 ladies working, slim pickings so I only went for the 30 minutes instead of an hour. 50 k Girl was cute but pretty stale attitude. Went for oral natural after she showed talent for an extra 20 k and she seemed pretty into it actually! Grabbed an uber back for 8 k.

Place had decent decor but was chilly. My first time doing anything in Bogota, I'm usually in MDE / Barranquilla so can't really compare.

All in all, for 100 k, prob not worth it, but all in all, prob better than sitting in the airport for 4 hrs. If anyone has a better reco for BOG layover fun let me know, I seem to keep taking the midnight BOG-MIA flight so I expect I'll have one again.

Taxi told me its a sketchy area.

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Zonas húmedas.

*servicio de jacuzzi con la la chica 130 mil la hora.

*servicio de sauna 110 mil la hora.

[Woodman09]

Had a 4 HR layover at the airport. Didn't see anything close on the Map but found something nearby on Mileroticos. SpaLatinO. Talked a bit on Whatsapp and headed over.

They have a few branches (sedes = hq). Went to the one in Fontibon at 830 p, they close at 9.

The place was 1. 5 miles from the airport. Taxi showed 95 and it looked like the guy gave me 2-20's change but turned out to be a ten and a twenty, so got fleeced there as I was't paying much attention. Would have Uber'd but was running close to their closing time.

Only 4 ladies working, slim pickings so I only went for the 30 minutes instead of an hour. 50 k Girl was cute but pretty stale attitude. Went for oral natural after she showed talent for an extra 20 k and she seemed pretty into it actually! Grabbed an uber back for 8 k..Next Time take the Uber / taxi to Santa Fe, it is a quick ride from El Dorado AP about 8 miles but really quick at night.

[GreenBud]

- I felt safe in Santa Fe. But of course I stayed in that area, where there is a lot of people and police around.

- Numerous diamonds in the rough are available.

- It seems 40 K COP for 20 minutes is the standard. 1 girl offered 30 K. Another girl lowered her price to 35 K after I hesitated. Once when I was leaving in an Uber taxi, I pointed to the girls and said only 40 K COP. The Uber driver said, "aaahhh nooo. 30 K COP"

- It seems the standard is for the girl to pay for the room. One time the girl asked for me to pay for the room after I gave her the 40 K. Then she reneged on the BBBJ; she asked for a tip. Couple of times, the girls asked me to reimburse them for the room after they paid for it; performance was ok.

- Prices at one short time guesthouse was 6 K for 20 minutes, 10 K for 30 minutes, and 15 K for 1 hour. As some posters suggested, it seems like a good idea to get a nicer guesthouse in the area. The price for one hotel in the area was 30 K for the entire night. But it was 10 K additional for each girl. Hence it would have been 50 K COP for 2 girls. I never asked if I have to pay the 20 K extra for each different set of girls. Does anyone know?

- It's not difficult to get BBBJ without offering a tip. You just have to keep on asking. It seems easier to get BBBJ (without a tip offer) from the girls on the street intersections, away from the short time guesthouse. Many of the girls stand next to or inside a guesthouse. It seems they are affiliated with that guesthouse, which seems more like a casa brothel. Many of the girls seem more presentable, better dressed than the girls on the street corner. Many of them said no to the BBBJ. Also, it seems tougher to get BBBJ if you ask them in front of their co-workers. But of course many of them will do BBBJ for a tip. I didn't research how many of them would do it.

- Scam warning: Once I asked young girl (standing with her co-workers in a guesthouse) if she did BBBJ. She said no, but then the older girl said yes she will do it for 50 K. I think she told to girl to say yes, ask for a higher price, and then renege in the room. That has happened to me. Be wary if the girl says 50 K after you asked her for BBBJ.

- But money talks. In Santa Fe, 10 K or 20 K tip is a lot of money. 10 K or maybe 20 K max should be sufficient to get BBBJ. If the girl says no, you can bring out the hammer of the 50 K tip offer.

- If you want extras without having to offer tips, ask the girls on the street corners, away from the casa brothels. They might be more desperate.

- My regulars were very happy with 100 K COP for 1 hour for everything. I'm guessing they would have accepted 80 K. Although, all 3 of them asked me to pay for the 1 hour short time guesthouse. I was charged 20 K at some places.

[Radigan]

Thanks to JHappyDog, DWorldTravel69, World Travel 69, and Balimassage.

I plan on making the trip to Bogota in mid-November. Hopefully there aren't any holidays or reasons for the clubs to be closed during my week there.

[Mr Enternational]

MOTHAFUCKA! Had a chick coming from Barranquilla tonight. We planned this shit long ago. Her ass get to the airport late and don't know she had to check in. Got left. Said she does not have money to get home. Will have to pawn her phone. Her mom gave her money to get to the airport. I am pissed about the $150 I paid for that damn ticket.

Well the point is that I will be in Bogota in 3 hours and will be heading to Santa Fe tonight at maybe 1 or 2 am and probably will be there again tomorrow if someone wants me to show them around before I get with my girlfriend Friday.

[TuneFor]

Damn I am lazy bastard, being reading this forum last 2 months but now when I am here already for 4 night still didn't post about experiences but let go.

Arrived late on Saturday, things didn't start well because my prearranged transport and guide couldn't make it.

OK lets try Uber with poor airport signal, had problems determine pick up point in that chaos. Uber is not welcomed at airport so don't be surprised if he don't show up but somehow I managed to get this one.

I was so tired but as it was Saturday night going to bed was not option.

Had few drinks in hotel and ordered Uber for Zona Rosa. At least I was thinking it.

Ended up in some oder Zona Rosa, wasted 20 min and it was already 1:40.

In Zona Rosa clubs were quite crowded but didn't want to go in as they are closing at 03 am. First goal was to get myself refreshed so managed to do it and then had to decide what's next.

As it was Saturday wanted experience nightlife and leave hookers as last option.

Went to club Video, what a mistake, full of gays.

Then hit the Baum, best techno club in Bogota. Picked up 2 contacts but went home alone due to being done in every way.

Day 2.

Managed to hook up with one of the girls from SA.

Dinner and then to hotel.

We agreed on 200 bucks, she was a wild one, squirting on my bed to point that I had to put spare sheets to sleep later on.

Day 3.

Spent day resting and later some shopping and visiting Parque 93.

After having few drinks in hotel decided to hit Forty Nine Club on recommendation of a taxist / tour guide.

Place was empty. Only me and 2 other guys at another table.

Girls where super pushy, couldn't drink my beer in peace. But ended up being good tactic because eventually I agreed on TDL with 2 of them which looked like party girls so I said OK it might be interesting.

It wasn't.

First of all I overpaid them. Agreed on 300 bucks, but eventually at the end of night paid at least 400 because it was always something more to payed.

They stayed until 5-6 am, 1 was super hot so I mainly fucked her as other was useless. Noisy as fuck, ended up being knocked twice by receptionist on doors.

Somehow managed to finish after some porn movies and 2 of them doing what asked.

Again they wanted more money and ended up giving them 50 bucks how much they asked just to get rid of them.

Hope will learn from this experience, but they were good actors, fooling me they are into partying and having a blast of a night.

Def wouldn't recommend Forty Nine Club.

Day 3.

Was destroyed all day from night before, hotel had such a bad sound isolation so couldn't sleep until late afternoon.

Went for first meal of day at 7 pm, some sushi place, with nice waiters serving me.

Took her number as she was showing some interest, (still pending on her at this point of writing this report).

Around 10 pm meet with the guy which didn't show up first day at airport due to car problems.

Ended up being awesome guy which can help you a lot if you a first time here and with limited Spanish. (limited is strong word in my case).

Decided to go with him in famous Santa Fe.

Place look scary and like from movies but quality of girls is amazing.

We went in Paisas club and girls were 5 times better looking then in that stupid Forty Nine club, and not pushy at all.

We just sit for hour and drunk and nobody approached us. Great place.

There were few gems but some already taken, ended up agreeing on TLN with super cute and sexy Venezuelan. 500 pesos.

My friend said I overpaid it but compared to previous night it seemed like a good deal.

Of to my place, she stayed until 8 am, amazing body with several Tattoos on interesting places.

Lack of my Spanish and her English was a problem but still it was nice experience.

Day 4.

Again didn't sleep almost but had arrangement with one girl from SA.

She was late 1 HR due to traffic, but OK nothing to do anyway.

She had period so she said already before that we go on other entrance.

Crazy chick. Not a super beauty but super performer.

Stayed around 2 hrs, she wanted to hang out more but I was done. Gave her 150 m pesos and for taxi.

So in 4 days 4 chicks, actually 5 if we count that bloody duo which was huge mistake.

Tomorrow need to change hotel and then final day in Bogota before Medellin.

So far I would say it is awesome place to have fun but should come with semi decent level of Spanish to get most of it.

Day game should offer so much possibility with knowledge of Spanish.

[Mr Enternational]

Well all I can say is that Santa Fe is something serious. I have been there at least 100 times and now I can say that I have been there every hour of the day since I got there the other night at 1:30am and left at 5:30am. The only danger that I have sensed is maybe having a heart attack from trying to fuck all those chicas. I just left there now in the nick of time since my girlfriend called and told me to send the Uber for her. We are supposed to be going out of town somewhere tomorrow. I guess I will write my reports when I am at the airport Monday.

Maybe I should have left my Galaxy Note 9 back in the room. But hell, nobody has ever bothered me about anything before down there. If it ain't broke...

[Mr Enternational]

Decided to go with him in famous Santa Fe.

Place look scary and like from movies but quality of girls is amazing.

We went in Paisas club and girls were 5 times better looking then in that stupid Forty Nine club, and not pushy at all.

We just sit for hour and drunk and nobody approached us. Great place.

There were few gems but some already taken, ended up agreeing on TLN with super cute and sexy Venezuelan. 500 pesos.

My friend said I overpaid it but compared to previous night it seemed like a good deal.Holy Jeezus dude. Was that the price YOU offered? Cause I just finished fucking 5 chicks down there and 4 initially said 200K for all night without me even countering. The 5th one said she didn't do TLN, but her attitude sucked anyway. I told her too bad her attitude was terrible because I was in love with her body. Matter of fact, I cut the session short. But for the 35K that I paid it was worth it just to see her naked and spreading.

$200? $300? Surely you did not RTFF beforehand. I thought it was something that my girlfriend only makes $258 (800K pesos) per month on her job, until the chick that was supposed to come see me from Barranquilla said she only makes $129 (400K pesos) per month at the pharmacy she works at. Use those figures as a guide.

[Pokeris]

Damn I am lazy bastard, being reading this forum last 2 months but now when I am here already for 4 night still didn't post about experiences but let go.

Arrived late on Saturday, things didn't start well because my prearranged transport and guide couldn't make it.

OK lets try Uber with poor airport signal, had problems determine pick up point in that chaos. Uber is not welcomed at airport so don't be surprised if he don't show up but somehow I managed to get this one.

I was so tired but as it was Saturday night going to bed was not option.

Had few drinks in hotel and ordered Uber for Zona Rosa. At least I was thinking it.

Ended up in some oder Zona Rosa, wasted 20 min and it was already 1:40.

In Zona Rosa clubs were quite crowded but didn't want to go in as they are closing at 03 am. First goal was to get myself refreshed so managed to do it and then had to decide what's next.

As it was Saturday wanted experience nightlife and leave hookers as last option.

Went to club Video, what a mistake, full of gays.

Then hit the Baum, best techno club in Bogota. Picked up 2 contacts but went home alone due to being done in every way.

Day 2.

Managed to hook up with one of the girls from SA.

Dinner and then to hotel.

We agreed on 200 bucks, she was a wild one, squirting on my bed to point that I had to put spare sheets to sleep later on.

Day 3.

Spent day resting and later some shopping and visiting Parque 93.

After having few drinks in hotel decided to hit Forty Nine Club on recommendation of a taxist / tour guide.

Place was empty. Only me and 2 other guys at another table.

Girls where super pushy, couldn't drink my beer in peace. But ended up being good tactic because eventually I agreed on TDL with 2 of them which looked like party girls so I said OK it might be interesting.

It wasn't.

First of all I overpaid them. Agreed on 300 bucks, but eventually at the end of night paid at least 400 because it was always something more to payed.

They stayed until 5-6 am, 1 was super hot so I mainly fucked her as other was useless. Noisy as fuck, ended up being knocked twice by receptionist on doors.

Somehow managed to finish after some porn movies and 2 of them doing what asked.

Again they wanted more money and ended up giving them 50 bucks how much they asked just to get rid of them.

Hope will learn from this experience, but they were good actors, fooling me they are into partying and having a blast of a night.

Def wouldn't recommend Forty Nine Club.

Day 3.

Was destroyed all day from night before, hotel had such a bad sound isolation so couldn't sleep until late afternoon.

Went for first meal of day at 7 pm, some sushi place, with nice waiters serving me.

Took her number as she was showing some interest, (still pending on her at this point of writing this report).

Around 10 pm meet with the guy which didn't show up first day at airport due to car problems.

Ended up being awesome guy which can help you a lot if you a first time here and with limited Spanish. (limited is strong word in my case).

Decided to go with him in famous Santa Fe.

Place look scary and like from movies but quality of girls is amazing.

We went in Paisas club and girls were 5 times better looking then in that stupid Forty Nine club, and not pushy at all.

We just sit for hour and drunk and nobody approached us. Great place.

There were few gems but some already taken, ended up agreeing on TLN with super cute and sexy Venezuelan. 500 pesos.

My friend said I overpaid it but compared to previous night it seemed like a good deal.

Of to my place, she stayed until 8 am, amazing body with several Tattoos on interesting places.

Lack of my Spanish and her English was a problem but still it was nice experience.

Day 4.

Again didn't sleep almost but had arrangement with one girl from SA.

She was late 1 HR due to traffic, but OK nothing to do anyway.

She had period so she said already before that we go on other entrance.

Crazy chick. Not a super beauty but super performer.

Stayed around 2 hrs, she wanted to hang out more but I was done. Gave her 150 m pesos and for taxi.

So in 4 days 4 chicks, actually 5 if we count that bloody duo which was huge mistake.

Tomorrow need to change hotel and then final day in Bogota before Medellin.

So far I would say it is awesome place to have fun but should come with semi decent level of Spanish to get most of it.

Day game should offer so much possibility with knowledge of Spanish.Mate you was overpaying!! All your girls hit jackpot with you except last girl for 150 mil for 2 hours you pay reasonable price. I suggest read more forum and don't do same mistake at medellin!!

[JjBee62]

Damn I am lazy bastard, being reading this forum last 2 months but now when I am here already for 4 night still didn't post about experiences but let go.

Arrived late on Saturday, things didn't start well because my prearranged transport and guide couldn't make it.

OK lets try Uber with poor airport signal, had problems determine pick up point in that chaos. Uber is not welcomed at airport so don't be surprised if he don't show up but somehow I managed to get this one.

I was so tired but as it was Saturday night going to bed was not option.

Had few drinks in hotel and ordered Uber for Zona Rosa. At least I was thinking it.

Ended up in some oder Zona Rosa, wasted 20 min and it was already 1:40..I really need to start a monger travel agency. Heck, you could have paid me $300 for my WhatsApp and you would already be $200 ahead.

What really matters is that you're enjoying yourself. If you're planning on spending $200 or $300 or $400 for a fun trio in Medellin, let me know. I'm sure I know someone who would do a much job for that money.

[Sweetdwill55]

For those who are skeptical of going to Santa Fe at night I was there from 1:30 am - 4 am and although it might look sketchy as long as ou keep your eyes open you'll be perfectly alright.

[DWorldTravel69]

On my first trip to Bogota I visited casas because I was traveling solo and didn't want to venture into Santa Fe alone based on other members in the forum.

This time I got in touch with woodman and spent few hours taking me around Santa Fe.

We met little after 11 and were out to close to 3 am. During that time we strolled around the blocks few times and he took me to too many clubs to name. We were going from club to club checking out the talent. Some of the bigger clubs were packed with both men and women while others were dead. Girls just sitting around and looking for men.

The place was loaded with Venezolanas and I personally thought it was good. There were some good looking girls in and out of the club and you will find your type in Santa Fe.

I would consider myself to be pretty picky when it comes to looks and (woodman took me around to the same clubs few times seeking for talent) I found girls that I fancied.

Girls are friendly and are looking for business so if you find what you like just smile and chit chat and go from there.

If you are weary of going to SF alone reach out to woodman. He will help you out and make sure you are having a good time.

[Woodman09]

I must write Random Musings / Thoughts in Santa Fe soon, one I just thought of is.

It's so great to get all Hot by the beautiful girls in the clubs and stepping out and boning down on a hot streety sweetie or two? It's just as good and economical to!

I slipped out got baked and hit one of my GF hookers, And than thought I was done but ran into a really sexy flaquita blanquita named Mia. What a petite cutie 25 years old but seemed like 18-19.

GF service for $42000. No baby damage and nice and tight. I told her 'Tengo mas ratos de prontio'.

More coming, Anyhow, in the meantime, Here is important info; here is a link to Colombian Holidays, They are mainly on Monday called Festivo.

http://www.cuandoenelmundo.com/calendario/colombia/2018

[Giz99]

This is a continuation from my travels starting in Panama.

I had set up a fake Facebook account about a month before I left. Facebook will automatically make suggestions of friends in whatever city your are in. I was on a group tour going through Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena. The group had a very clear policy of no drugs no chicas so I had to be discreet.

FB Girls would keep on messaging me and I took it as a good way to practice my Spanish. I would keep on friending their friends and quickly I had 100 female friends in four different cities.

I started flirting with this very attractive 32 year old in Bogota who I was hoping to meet. I had a 5 hour window from when my plane landed to when I had to meet my group. I had pre-arranged a private driver / tour guide for the afternoon.

Our flirting went on for a couple of weeks and I had a difficult time pinning her down as to meeting her. She eventually confessed 2 days before I arrived that she had to go out of town. I was disappointed that I did not have the sexy company but I had a driver for the afternoon and was going to explore Bogota.

When I expressed my disappointment in her being away she told me she had Amigas! I told her that they would not be beautiful as her but I would like the company. I was sent pictures of her friend who does not take a good picture. The picture of her face was OK and her dressed picture of her was plain Jane. I was told she could speak some English and that she was a fun person. I figured I had nothing to lose and would like the company for the afternoon. We connected over WhatsApp and talked for a couple of days. Since she spoke a little English we agreed she would speak in English and I would speak in Spanish so we could both practice. We had a little flirtatious talk and she agreed to be my novia for the afternoon.

After I got through the airport I met my driver and he took me off to my hotel to drop off my stuff then we would start the tour but I told him we were going to pick up my Novia at the gold museum. I promised to tip well and off we went. I messaged my Novia when I was delayed in the meeting and she just told me to take my time she would wait for me. When I arrived at the Gold museum I saw this stunning women waiting for me. She was hot. We greeted each other and off we went. Straight away she was very hands on and flirtatious. We took the gondola up Monserrate and just chatted as friends getting to know each other. We toured around Monserrate and she told me about her city. Soon we were making out like teenagers.

When we returned to our driver we decided to change the tour and go to a love hotel near the airport. Love motels are very interesting worth reading about them on the internet. The afternoon was great. Naked her body was amazing. Nothing was off limits between us. When we were done I dropped her off at the bus stop and she promised to write. We are still communicating through WhatsApp on a daily basis. I usually receive a daily sexy photo and continue to practice my Spanish. Win. My opinion is that if you connect with a FB girl you may have a better girlfriend experience.

Off to meet my group and eventually arrive in Medellin.

[The Tall Man]

Damn I am lazy bastard, being reading this forum last 2 months but now when I am here already for 4 night still didn't post about experiences but let go.

Arrived late on Saturday, things didn't start well because my prearranged transport and guide couldn't make it.

OK lets try Uber with poor airport signal, had problems determine pick up point in that chaos. Uber is not welcomed at airport so don't be surprised if he don't show up but somehow I managed to get this one.

I was so tired but as it was Saturday night going to bed was not option.

Had few drinks in hotel and ordered Uber for Zona Rosa. At least I was thinking it.

Ended up in some oder Zona Rosa, wasted 20 min and it was already 1:40.

In Zona Rosa clubs were quite crowded but didn't want to go in as they are closing at 03 am. First goal was to get myself refreshed so managed to do it and then had to decide what's next.

As it was Saturday wanted experience nightlife and leave hookers as last option.

Went to club Video, what a mistake, full of gays.

Then hit the Baum, best techno club in Bogota. Picked up 2 contacts but went home alone due to being done in every way.

Day 2.

Managed to hook up with one of the girls from SA.

Dinner and then to hotel.

We agreed on 200 bucks, she was a wild one, squirting on my bed to point that I had to put spare sheets to sleep later on.

Day 3.

Spent day resting and later some shopping and visiting Parque 93.

After having few drinks in hotel decided to hit Forty Nine Club on recommendation of a taxist / tour guide.

Place was empty. Only me and 2 other guys at another table.

Girls where super pushy, couldn't drink my beer in peace. But ended up being good tactic because eventually I agreed on TDL with 2 of them which looked like party girls so I said OK it might be interesting.

It wasn't.

First of all I overpaid them. Agreed on 300 bucks, but eventually at the end of night paid at least 400 because it was always something more to payed.

They stayed until 5-6 am, 1 was super hot so I mainly fucked her as other was useless. Noisy as fuck, ended up being knocked twice by receptionist on doors.

Somehow managed to finish after some porn movies and 2 of them doing what asked.

Again they wanted more money and ended up giving them 50 bucks how much they asked just to get rid of them.

Hope will learn from this experience, but they were good actors, fooling me they are into partying and having a blast of a night.

Def wouldn't recommend Forty Nine Club.

Day 3.

Was destroyed all day from night before, hotel had such a bad sound isolation so couldn't sleep until late afternoon.

Went for first meal of day at 7 pm, some sushi place, with nice waiters serving me.

Took her number as she was showing some interest, (still pending on her at this point of writing this report).

Around 10 pm meet with the guy which didn't show up first day at airport due to car problems.

Ended up being awesome guy which can help you a lot if you a first time here and with limited Spanish. (limited is strong word in my case).

Decided to go with him in famous Santa Fe.

Place look scary and like from movies but quality of girls is amazing.

We went in Paisas club and girls were 5 times better looking then in that stupid Forty Nine club, and not pushy at all.

We just sit for hour and drunk and nobody approached us. Great place.

There were few gems but some already taken, ended up agreeing on TLN with super cute and sexy Venezuelan. 500 pesos.

My friend said I overpaid it but compared to previous night it seemed like a good deal.

Of to my place, she stayed until 8 am, amazing body with several Tattoos on interesting places.

Lack of my Spanish and her English was a problem but still it was nice experience.

Day 4.

Again didn't sleep almost but had arrangement with one girl from SA.

She was late 1 HR due to traffic, but OK nothing to do anyway.

She had period so she said already before that we go on other entrance.

Crazy chick. Not a super beauty but super performer.

Stayed around 2 hrs, she wanted to hang out more but I was done. Gave her 150 m pesos and for taxi.

So in 4 days 4 chicks, actually 5 if we count that bloody duo which was huge mistake.

Tomorrow need to change hotel and then final day in Bogota before Medellin.

So far I would say it is awesome place to have fun but should come with semi decent level of Spanish to get most of it.

Day game should offer so much possibility with knowledge of Spanish.As others have stated DAMN you overpaid by a factor of 10 x! Please please please stop it, the girls you paid are now completely fucked for life, god forbid the next guy that comes along.

The Tall Man.

[Woodman09]

Hit SF last night first time I have ever seen a 3 girl daisy-chain at Atons. Actully you too can be a performer.

They do Boy-Girl shows on stage at Atones and Venus Club also La Casona I believe. At Venus you have to pay $10.000 to do it.

[Starlord1]

As others have stated DAMN you overpaid by a factor of 10 x! Please please please stop it, the girls you paid are now completely fucked for life, god forbid the next guy that comes along.

The Tall Man.Jesus the amount of money you were paying in Santa Fe. Of alll places. Someone should have been with you to take your wallet from you my dude. Haha did you read the forum at all. They were probably very happy to see you coming. You spent more then me in 3 days then in 9 days. Please before you go back do your research.

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[Woodman09]

Wow even though Friday / Saturday are supposed to be the best. I went last night, so many beautiful debutante looking girls, and not so many guys. It was so relaxing to not have a crowd and just have your pick. The Best bar was La Casona, Pretty girls just sitting around looking bored.

I saw a young Latin Betty Paige do a great Lesbo show at Venus, I will have to get a lap dance from her or more some time soon.

[The Tall Man]

Wow even though Friday / Saturday are supposed to be the best. I went last night, so many beautiful debutante looking girls, and not so many guys. It was so relaxing to not have a crowd and just have your pick. The Best bar was La Casona, Pretty girls just sitting around looking bored.

I saw a young Latin Betty Paige do a great Lesbo show at Venus, I will have to get a lap dance from her or more some time soon.By sheer chance I ran into Woodman last night in Santa Fe, really cool meeting you Woodman!

I will try to write a brief report about my stay in Bogota and my experiences in Santa Fe but for the time being let me say DAMN I am impressed by both the quantity and quality of the chicas! Simply incredible time last night seeing hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of beautiful lady's!

Heading back out their tonight after some planned touristy things to do during the day.

Again I am very impressed by the Santa Fe areas, both the strip clubs and on the streets, dozens and dozens of mainly Venezuelan girls lined up shoulder to shoulder with the next looking even prettier then the other. It took me and my friend literally hours to make a decision, un-fu*king believable selection of street walkers.

The Tall Man.

[Woodman09]

Really Great to meet you too TallMan! I have met a lot of great members during the last month.

Santa Fe is the best it has ever been in the 7 yrs I have been here. I believe SF is the best red-light area in the world in terms of quality and selection.

The Streetie Sweetie line up on 23rd street reminds me of La Habana in the 90's before the crack down. It is Over the Top!

Get here before you die!


By sheer chance I ran into Woodman last night in Santa Fe, really cool meeting you Woodman!

I will try to write a brief report about my stay in Bogota and my experiences in Santa Fe but for the time being let me say DAMN I am impressed by both the quantity and quality of the chicas! Simply incredible time last night seeing hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of beautiful lady's!

Heading back out their tonight after some planned touristy things to do during the day.

Again I am very impressed by the Santa Fe areas, both the strip clubs and on the streets, dozens and dozens of mainly Venezuelan girls lined up shoulder to shoulder with the next looking even prettier then the other. It took me and my friend literally hours to make a decision, un-fu*king believable selection of street walkers.

The Tall Man.

[The Tall Man]

Really Great to meet you too TallMan! I have met a lot of great members during the last month.

Santa Fe is the best it has ever been in the 7 yrs I have been here. I believe SF is the best red-light area in the world in terms of quality and selection.

The Streetie Sweetie line up on 23rd street reminds me of La Habana in the 90's before the crack down. It is Over the Top!

Get here before you die!Thanks for the heads up about my full inbox, it is cleared now.

Yes Saturday night was just as busy as the night before, I did not partake in anything but truth be told many cuties out there on 23rd street.

I am back in Medellin now and so will take a run down in centro tonight.

Be safe and enjoy!

The Tall Man.

[Smoothy]

In my 45 years of mongering in brothels, casas, with street girls and what not, only once did a prostitute try to rob me and that was many years ago in a casa in Medellin. The only place I have had the girls try to rob me was in Africa. And it was a frequent occurrence there. You can't trust those African girls at all.

[Woodman09]

I went to SF tonight for a little fun, On the 23rd st sidewalk there were 60 girls all lined up. There were at least 100 girls on the block at least half I would want to get with.

I met a pretty 19 yo Venezolano white girl with dark brown hair, Banged her hard. She was a nice petite girl. Looked like a teen cover model. Will repeat one day soon.

On Sunday afternoon I was on a tour and we were walking SF it was pretty slow on the street, a few nice girls. We went to the club row and walked into a Bahia. It was like a party going on. A bunch of hot girls partying with a few guys. I started dirty dancing with this pretty 20 yr old morena with big natural double the-cups. Ended up upstairs with her. Will repeat one day soon.

[Trifecta68]

I went to SF tonight for a little fun, On the 23rd st sidewalk there were 60 girls all lined up. There were at least 100 girls on the block at least half I would want to get with.

I met a pretty 19 yo Venezolano white girl with dark brown hair, Banged her hard. She was a nice petite girl. Looked like a teen cover model. Will repeat one day soon.

On Sunday afternoon I was on a tour and we were walking SF it was pretty slow on the street, a few nice girls. We went to the club row and walked into a Bahia. It was like a party going on. A bunch of hot girls partying with a few guys. I started dirty dancing with this pretty 20 yr old morena with big natural double the-cups. Ended up upstairs with her. Will repeat one day soon.Any suggestions on where to stay in Bogata for a first time visitor that is Chica friendly and close to the Santa Fe area & 23rd st that you mentioned. I've spent many nights in Panama and have indulged on beautiful Colombianas. Can't wait to visit ground zero for beautiful and plentiful women.

[MjTravelLove]

Hi Guys,

Any advice if I am looking for an all night long PSE / GFE than I am for an SF quickie?

I like both, and I know SF, and had great kuck once on cupid Colombia.

But it's slim pickings. Any advice? IS there is list if casas abd trust agencies?

[MjTravelLove]

Might somebody help direct me to the links for the Bogota maps? I think Routard or anther dedicated member was nice enough to post / create them but I can't find the link.

Thanks mates!

[MjTravelLove]

Guys, in SF can one get a BBBJ? I speka spanish and can negotiate, but is it ever on the table, and of so, m what is a faur amount to pay extra for the service.

It's the one thing I really care about, along with DFK.

(this is why I usuailly look for a GFE online or at a casa rather than SF, but not sure where to start with the hundreds of casas!

[PuntingGeorge]

Guys, in SF can one get a BBBJ? I speka spanish and can negotiate, but is it ever on the table, and of so, m what is a faur amount to pay extra for the service.

It's the one thing I really care about, along with DFK.

(this is why I usuailly look for a GFE online or at a casa rather than SF, but not sure where to start with the hundreds of casas!Yep, I've had it in the clubs. Not usually available but if you have a good rapport with the chica you can sometimes agree it in advance. I'd say you're more likely to get BBBJ than DFK.

[Cm6363]

Gents, I'm living in Bogota and was wondering if anyone could recommend regular clubs where older Gringos would not stand out like a sore thumb. In Medellin I found clubs where most of the people were regular customers, but there were plenty of working girls who would go home for a propina. It was fun because you could party before the climax of the evening.

That combination would be perfect, but even a club without some working girls where there are gringos are common enough would be good too.

On that note, a long time ago I read that the Irish Pub or the Pub in Zona T on Cra. 12 a ##83-48 is also a place for gringos to mingle with Bogotanas. Is that still the case?

In any case, it would be a pleasure to go with any of you gents.

Hablo espanol malo, pero suficiente.

Cheers mates.

[Woodman09]

Any suggestions on where to stay in Bogata for a first time visitor that is Chica friendly and close to the Santa Fe area & 23rd st that you mentioned. I've spent many nights in Panama and have indulged on beautiful Colombianas. Can't wait to visit ground zero for beautiful and plentiful women.A lot of guys like Museo Ibis Hotel. There are lotsa of great studios available on AirBnB.

[Woodman09]

Guys, in SF can one get a BBBJ? I speka spanish and can negotiate, but is it ever on the table, and of so, m what is a faur amount to pay extra for the service.

It's the one thing I really care about, along with DFK.

(this is why I usuailly look for a GFE online or at a casa rather than SF, but not sure where to start with the hundreds of casas!Back in the early 2000's BBBJ was just part of the deal! The Good Old Days!!

These days I usually always ask about it. Its a great ice breaker LOL ¿Puedes chupar sin condon? I also like to get real smaltzy and whisper in their ear quiero besarte' and start feeling them up. You can see how they react and it gives me a clue about their attitude.

Actually there are girls who will say yes to BBBJ for as little as $5 or nothing. I think they may say yes to certain guys and no to others. There's a really hot Paisa named Valaria, she is a 9-10 looks like Veronica on Archie she has the leopard print tattoo on her shoulder. Totally natural 19 yo with big see-cups. I Met her in the streets and she was giving me GFEs for $50 mil. I think she was new when I met her because started doing less BBBJ as I kept seeing her. But that girl loved to get boned at least by me. Saw her in Troya last week, she is probably still in town.

[PerroChino]

I personally do not know of any such clubs in Bogota, but you say you know of regular clubs in Medellin where one could also find plenty of working girls. Can you please share the names of these Medellin clubs too?


Gents, I'm living in Bogota and was wondering if anyone could recommend regular clubs where older Gringos would not stand out like a sore thumb. In Medellin I found clubs where most of the people were regular customers, but there were plenty of working girls who would go home for a propina. It was fun because you could party before the climax of the evening.

That combination would be perfect, but even a club without some working girls where there are gringos are common enough would be good too.

On that note, a long time ago I read that the Irish Pub or the Pub in Zona T on Cra. 12 a ##83-48 is also a place for gringos to mingle with Bogotanas. Is that still the case?

In any case, it would be a pleasure to go with any of you gents.

Hablo espanol malo, pero suficiente.

Cheers mates.

[Cm6363]

I personally do not know of any such clubs in Bogota, but you say you know of regular clubs in Medellin where one could also find plenty of working girls. Can you please share the names of these Medellin clubs too?That's a great question and I hope someone can help me out on this. When I was staying in Poblado, I went to an area with a few bars and discos that was just off to the west side of the Autopista, south of Poblado. My last visit to Medellin I could not find the area and I did go to all of main ones including Laureales, La 33, La 70 y Las Palmas. The funny thing was when I went there 4 years ago, it was after going to Las Palmas and not being to get into the regular disco. I didn't want to go to a night club, so the taxi driver took me there.

Any ideas where I was?

[PuntingGeorge]

Might somebody help direct me to the links for the Bogota maps? I think Routard or anther dedicated member was nice enough to post / create them but I can't find the link.

Thanks mates!


North to South.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1Y7d556oDwhh_X83ZCec7ItKPaXQ&ll=4.703915718162304%2C-74.04540605000005&z=13

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.661574410677932%2C-74.10110514999997&z=14

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.62792499704242%2C-74.10891029999999&z=13There you go. It was under the Bogota Lists thread. Have fun and make sure to report back.

[JjBee62]

That's a great question and I hope someone can help me out on this. When I was staying in Poblado, I went to an area with a few bars and discos that was just off to the west side of the Autopista, south of Poblado. My last visit to Medellin I could not find the area and I did go to all of main ones including Laureales, La 33, La 70 y Las Palmas. The funny thing was when I went there 4 years ago, it was after going to Las Palmas and not being to get into the regular disco. I didn't want to go to a night club, so the taxi driver took me there.

Any ideas where I was?Yes. I know right where you were. It's as you said, on the west side of the Autopista, just south of the Aguacatala metro station. Never went in, but passed by it all the time.

[Routard]

Gents, I'm living in Bogota and was wondering if anyone could recommend regular clubs where older Gringos would not stand out like a sore thumb. In Medellin I found clubs where most of the people were regular customers, but there were plenty of working girls who would go home for a propina. It was fun because you could party before the climax of the evening.

That combination would be perfect, but even a club without some working girls where there are gringos are common enough would be good too.

On that note, a long time ago I read that the Irish Pub or the Pub in Zona T on Cra. 12 a ##83-48 is also a place for gringos to mingle with Bogotanas. Is that still the case?

In any case, it would be a pleasure to go with any of you gents.

Hablo espanol malo, pero suficiente.

Cheers mates.To make it short: there are no such bars or night clubs where pros and regular girls are mixed. And funny, each time someone is asking for it on the Bogota thread claiming that it exists in Medellin but no one is able to give the adresses of these supposed places in Medellin. It is not possible for a couple of reasons. One reason is that no regular girl would go to have fun in a place where are pros and punters. Another reason is that the owner needs to control his business and would not allow unidentified pros to enter in a regular place. There are indeed some pros in zona T looking for gringos but it's a scam. They use scopolamine to rob their victims. Serious places such as Irish Pub would never allow those girls to operate inside their business. If you are looking for pros, for your own safety go and get them in places designed for it and where they are controled. Places such as Gringo Tuesdays or Irish Pub are to pick up regular girls, and there are plenty of regular girls willing to meet gringos. If you want to pay them, you would ruin it and end up without sex. Just don't mix the places and mix pros with regulars girls.

[Trifecta68]

A lot of guys like Museo Ibis Hotel. There are lotsa of great studios available on AirBnB.Woodman; thanks for the tip. Are you the guy that tours punters in Bogata? If so I'll PM you.

[Woodman09]

Woodman; thanks for the tip. Are you the guy that tours punters in Bogata? If so I'll PM you.Look forward to hearing from you.

[Cm6363]

To make it short: there are no such bars or night clubs where pros and regular girls are mixed. And funny, each time someone is asking for it on the Bogota thread claiming that it exists in Medellin but no one is able to give the adresses of these supposed places in Medellin. It is not possible for a couple of reasons. One reason is that no regular girl would go to have fun in a place where are pros and punters. Another reason is that the owner needs to control his business and would not allow unidentified pros to enter in a regular place. There are indeed some pros in zona T looking for gringos but it's a scam. They use scopolamine to rob their victims. Serious places such as Irish Pub would never allow those girls to operate inside their business. If you are looking for pros, for your own safety go and get them in places designed for it and where they are controled. Places such as Gringo Tuesdays or Irish Pub are to pick up regular girls, and there are plenty of regular girls willing to meet gringos. If you want to pay them, you would ruin it and end up without sex. Just don't mix the places and mix pros with regulars girls.Thanks for the confirmation on the Irish Pub and the recommendation of Gringo Tuesdays. I will look into that.

As for finding a mix in Medellin, I guess you know my experience better than I do.

[Cm6363]

Cm6363:
That's a great question and I hope someone can help me out on this. When I was staying in Poblado, I went to an area with a few bars and discos that was just off to the west side of the Autopista, south of Poblado. My last visit to Medellin I could not find the area and I did go to all of main ones including Laureales, La 33, La 70 y Las Palmas. The funny thing was when I went there 4 years ago, it was after going to Las Palmas and not being to get into the regular disco. I didn't want to go to a night club, so the taxi driver took me there.

Any ideas where I was?

JjBee62:
Yes. I know right where you were. It's as you said, on the west side of the Autopista, just south of the Aguacatala metro station. Never went in, but passed by it all the time.

Thanks JjBee. So I looked at Google Maps. Seems like two possibilities. Discoteca Palmahia, Cll 86 (which is referred to as a Night Club on Google Maps) and Discoteca Fahrenheit, Cll 84. From the layout of the streets, my guess is it was Discoteca Palmahia.

Given what Routard wrote, maybe I just got lucky and was singled out by a few young ladies who made the pitch on a mediocre night. Then again, I also saw two younger gringos begging two Paisas not to get in a cab and the only explanation I could think of from what I saw was that they didn't realize there was a cost to finish the night on a bang.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/bar+medellin+Aguacatala+metro+station / at 6. 1885709,-75.5880101,17 z.

[Routard]

Given what Routard wrote, maybe I just got lucky and was singled out by a few young ladies who made the pitch on a mediocre night. Can't answer on it of course, just guessing. It happened to me a couple of times that pros who have spotted me before in a brothel just meet me by accident in a regular place and try to fake a regular encounter.

[Routard]

Then again, I also saw two younger gringos begging two Paisas not to get in a cab and the only explanation I could think of from what I saw was that they didn't realize there was a cost to finish the night on a bang.This happened to me also, but it was not a pro, just a desperate and drunk ex girl friend that tried to stay sleeping with me but I was fed up of her attitude and just pushed her and her amiga in a cab begging them to go home. When the taxi finally left with both girls inside, I realized people around me in the street found the scene very comic, a gringo trying to get rid of two young Colombianas,

[Cm6363]

CM6363: Given what Routard wrote, maybe I just got lucky and was singled out by a few young ladies who made the pitch on a mediocre night.

Routard: Can't answer on it of course, just guessing. It happened to me a couple of times that pros who have spotted me before in a brothel just meet me by accident in a regular place and try to fake a regular encounter.No, they made direct proposals. I think some young ladies feel if they can grab some cash quickly, why not try. Essentially an opportunistic, semi-pro.

[El Moreno 92]

Yep, I've had it in the clubs. Not usually available but if you have a good rapport with the chica you can sometimes agree it in advance. I'd say you're more likely to get BBBJ than DFK.As someone who will be in Bogota in 4 days, that makes me smile. Out of the many chicas that I've had in MDE, only ONE did that. I hope I'll have better luck in Bogota.

And Woodman, I will be hollering at you. I already have your whatsapp.

[JjBee62]

Thanks JjBee. So I looked at Google Maps. Seems like two possibilities. Discoteca Palmahia, Cll 86 (which is referred to as a Night Club on Google Maps) and Discoteca Fahrenheit, Cll 84. From the layout of the streets, my guess is it was Discoteca Palmahia.

Given what Routard wrote, maybe I just got lucky and was singled out by a few young ladies who made the pitch on a mediocre night. Then again, I also saw two younger gringos begging two Paisas not to get in a cab and the only explanation I could think of from what I saw was that they didn't realize there was a cost to finish the night on a bang.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/bar+medellin+Aguacatala+metro+station / at 6. 1885709,-75.5880101,17 z.You would have known if you were at Fahrenheit. You would have had partial hearing loss for 1 day after going there. There's also Dulce Jesus Mio along the Autopista.

All respect for Routard's Bogota reporting, but he's mistaken on this one. I've found working girls in most of the clubs and bars I visited in Medellin. Most of the girls on my Facebook are often posting from various regular clubs. Now, they aren't going there looking for customers, but they're usually more than happy to find a customer there.

[MjTravelLove]

Hi All,

I have checked out many places on the map that Routard, I think, so kindly put together.

Does anybody recommend any particular casas (or clubs) with a laid back atmosphere? Such as, you enter and have time to hang and chat up the girls a bit before choosing.

Most casas I visited in Bogota, you entered and basically had to choose or leave on the spot.

And in general, the best casas are quality and number of chicas are?

[MjTravelLove]

There you go. It was under the Bogota Lists thread. Have fun and make sure to report back.Thank and I will report back!

MjT.

[Cuba Tourist]

I was in Club 49 years ago when I spend quite a bit of time and Bogota. The club was full of women, many of them quite attractive. They were mostly pretty aloof, somewhat cold, so it wouldn't be a surprised that they weren't too friendly after taking them home. It was clear that this was a very expensive place. I forget exactly what they wanted but it was something like four times the normal price of the time maybe even more. Nevertheless there was one really hot girl that I still think about. But because of the price I didn't even say Hello, to her. I don't think that paying that kind of money in that place is going to spoil anyone because these girls are already spoiled. When I was there was the same as you described just a few guys there and tons and tons of women. They work on low volume and high prices. I don't think there's anything wrong with that because they were pretty clear and upfront. There are guys that are quite happy with that sort of arrangement.

P.S. I met Routard on that trip. What a great guy.

TuneFor --After having few drinks in hotel decided to hit Forty Nine Club on recommendation of a taxist / tour guide. Place was empty. Only me and 2 other guys at another table. Girls where super pushy, couldn't drink my beer in peace. But ended up being good tactic because eventually I agreed on TDL with 2 of them which looked like party girls so I said OK it might be interesting. It wasn't. First of all I overpaid them. Agreed on 300 bucks, but eventually at the end of night paid at least 400 because it was always something more to payed. Again they wanted more money and ended up giving them 50 bucks how much they asked just to get rid of them. Hope will learn from this experience, but they were good actors, fooling me they are into partying and having a blast of a night. Def wouldn't recommend Forty Nine Club.

[Mr Enternational]

Does anybody recommend any particular casas (or clubs) with a laid back atmosphere? Such as, you enter and have time to hang and chat up the girls a bit before choosing.Places in Santa Fe such as California are like that. And those girls are actually freelance.

[MjTravelLove]

Places in Santa Fe such as California are like that. And those girls are actually freelance.Thanks. Good to know!

[Santrago]

Guys,

I am in a layover in Bogota, departing tomorrow AM.

Anyone looking for have some fun time in the North tonight? I have heard Lido is best on Wednesdays and Thursdays.

[Troloncio]

Hi All,

I have checked out many places on the map that Routard, I think, so kindly put together.

Does anybody recommend any particular casas (or clubs) with a laid back atmosphere? Such as, you enter and have time to hang and chat up the girls a bit before choosing.

Most casas I visited in Bogota, you entered and basically had to choose or leave on the spot.

And in general, the best casas are quality and number of chicas are?You don't need to choose on the spot if you buy a drink, which is extremely cheap (1 dollar or so). In most of the casas I have visited, I ask for a beer first and tell them I will choose later. Then you can choose someone before sex for drinking with her but you will have to invite her drink.

[Pokeris]

Arrived 5 am morning Stayed at hotel el virrey the single room was small, have hot water, wifi 10 minutes away by walk to santa fe and it cheap so was perfect for 13 hour stay.

Visited tantra spa: girls price 20 min-30 mil (2 girls - 60 mil) 30 min-40 mil (2 girls 80 mil) they show me 10-11 girls but I like just one. The girl who is dealing with girls try increase price for me and said 30 min-50 mil I show her whatsapp message from tantra spa with all prices so she said ok 30 min-40 mil. I choose venezualian girl name sami 21 years she was good at sex, BBBJ follows and allowed make some pic of her. The room at tantra spa is really small like 1 metre on 2 metres with single bed. Take sami whatsapp number and left.

Next casa I visited was chicas milenio I really like this place. Girls price: 20 min-40 mil 30 min-50 mil 1 hour-70 mil. I walk inside and was 12-15 girls I like 5 or 6 of them. Girls was sitting on sofas and standing some drinking with costumers. They all come to me at same time try shake my hand and said their names so I get confused and forget which was which. I saw one black good looking girl who didint come to me to shake my hand and introduce herself so I walk to her and said lets go. She ask how long you want I said 30 minutes she said 50 mil. I give money for her and she give it for a guy behind counter. The girl name was mariana 21 or 22 girls old half venezualian half colombian she was fine at bed but don't want make BBBJ so do it with condom. Later she allowed make some photos oh her and give her whatsapp. The room at chickas milenio are big. I like this place and defenitely comeback because have many good looking girls with fair price.

Later I walk to santa fe it was 4 pm evening so was not so busy yet but plenty of girls too choose I visited California club have some cute girls inside and after decided to find some street girl. Opposite paisas club I saw group of girls one was good looking I offer her 40 mil for 30 minutes she want 60 mil after some negotation we agree on 50 mil for 30 minutes. We walk inside short time hotel I give her 50 mil and she pay for a room herself. The girl was 22 years old venezualian name carolline sweet and friendly also not so bad on bed. We fucked hard for 15-20 minutes but I could cum so I take off condom and she wank till make me cum. She not allowed make some pic of her but give her facebook. 13 hours at Bogota not so bad spend.

[PuntingGeorge]

Arrived 5 am morning Stayed at hotel el virrey the single room was small, have hot water, wifi 10 minutes away by walk to santa fe and it cheap so was perfect for 13 hour stay.

Visited tantra spa: girls price 20 min-30 mil (2 girls - 60 mil) 30 min-40 mil (2 girls 80 mil) they show me 10-11 girls but I like just one. The girl who is dealing with girls try increase price for me and said 30 min-50 mil I show her whatsapp message from tantra spa with all prices so she said ok 30 min-40 mil. I choose venezualian girl name sami 21 years she was good at sex, BBBJ follows and allowed make some pic of her. The room at tantra spa is really small like 1 metre on 2 metres with single bed. Take sami whatsapp number and left.

Next casa I visited was chicas milenio I really like this place. Girls price: 20 min-40 mil 30 min-50 mil 1 hour-70 mil. I walk inside and was 12-15 girls I like 5 or 6 of them. Girls was sitting on sofas and standing some drinking with costumers. They all come to me at same time try shake my hand and said their names so I get confused and forget which was which. I saw one black good looking girl who didint come to me to shake my hand and introduce herself so I walk to her and said lets go. She ask how long you want I said 30 minutes she said 50 mil. I give money for her and she give it for a guy behind counter. The girl name was mariana 21 or 22 girls old half venezualian half colombian she was fine at bed but don't want make BBBJ so do it with condom. Later she allowed make some photos oh her and give her whatsapp. The room at chickas milenio are big. I like this place and defenitely comeback because have many good looking girls with fair price.

Later I walk to santa fe it was 4 pm evening so was not so busy yet but plenty of girls too choose I visited California club have some cute girls inside and after decided to find some street girl. Opposite paisas club I saw group of girls one was good looking I offer her 40 mil for 30 minutes she want 60 mil after some negotation we agree on 50 mil for 30 minutes. We walk inside short time hotel I give her 50 mil and she pay for a room herself. The girl was 22 years old venezualian name carolline sweet and friendly also not so bad on bed. We fucked hard for 15-20 minutes but I could cum so I take off condom and she wank till make me cum. She not allowed make some pic of her but give her facebook. 13 hours at Bogota not so bad spend.Love this! Get in, bang hard, get out. No nonsense. Thanks for the reviews.

[MjTravelLove]

Hey guys, if you have a chance, please post your favorite few casas in Bogota.

I know the most well known clubs. Those in Santa Fe and so on. But I do not know where to begin with the casa scene. What are the best ones and the best areas of the city for quality casas?

Thanks!

MjT.

[Tp Horn]

I was in Bogotá for business. Thanks to the excellent maps from WorldTravel69, I realized a joint was a mere 150 meters from my hotel. Bar Juan Pablo Zhivago in the "Bogota-North" map. The place was totally unmarked, no signs or anything, just a dude hanging out in front.

I paid about COP 25 k for beers, 35 k for girl drinks, 100 k for the room ("privado" The rooms aren't quite set up for straight sex, they're karaoke rooms with couches, to entertain groups of asians. They put a sheet over the couch for me. I paid the gal US $100, mostly because I felt sorry for her because she was Venezuelan. Mostly GFE, slight upsell tactics. Not the most economical joint in Bogota, but definitely the most economical place within 200 meters of my hotel. No fuss, no muss, all safe and easy.

[PussyRiot]

Is there a drop off in terms of girl quality in between these two cities? Or just different in terms of what city has to offer?

Literally, spent few weeks reading about Medellin but Bogota is way more convenient due to the availability of direct flight from where I live.

Realized that Bogota isn't discuss much as Medellin so wasn't so sure why in desperate of being a capital city.

Please feel free to share any opinions you might have.

[Mr Enternational]

I paid the gal US $100, mostly because I felt sorry for her because she was Venezuelan.LOL. Damn. I guess we two different players. At the market yesterday in Lima I bought a hat for $8.30. I let the girl keep the 60 cent change because she was Venezuelan!

[Dg8787]

LOL. Damn. I guess we two different players. At the market yesterday in Lima I bought a hat for $8.30. I let the girl keep the 60 cent change because she was Venezuelan!That's the difference between you and I, I would have gave her the whole 70 cents!

[ThaiSpice]

Just a quick warning. Last month I was in Bogota and went to La Casona night club in the red light. My friends and I sat down for some beers and this shady promoter with spiky hair and neck tattoos kept bringing girls to our table. We refused most of them but a few stuck around. Close to closing time this guy then brings drinks for them without asking if it was OK with us and demanded 250 k for the drinks.

We refused and the bar empties as they are closing. There were about 10 guys meanly staring at us as we argued with the promoter. Luckily we had a group and after 20 minutes I gave him 50 k for the drinks and walked out with my crew. The promoter yells out us as we walk out but ultimately does nothing besides verbal threats. This guys speaks very good English but is a hustler. I would avoid this place. Please be careful out there guys.

[Troloncio]

Hey people,

I went last Saturday to Chicas Milenio and it was closed. I stopped by on Tuesday and the situation was the same. I found the guy that works in the door of Chicas 2000 (the casa located at the front of Chicas Milenio) and the guy let me in using an alternative door. Inside, I found only 3 girls working and one of them explained to me that both places were intervened by the police the last Friday.

Will let you know if the situation changes.

[Coupe66]

Hey guys, I'll be coming to Colombia for the first time in late January for at least 3 weeks. I speak pretty good Spanish and have mongered a lot in Europe, the DR and Argentina, though all I know about Colombia is what have read and seen online. I've read back many pages here, but still have to ask some annoying newbie questions.

I would like to rent an Airbnb place near the centre and Santa Fe, what neighborhoods should I be looking at? Is Santa Fe within walking distance of the centre, shops cafes etc? Are taxi's there cheap / safe? What about the metro? Is Santa Fe safe to walk around during the daytime, I see it gets dark around 6 pm. I'm a bit of a lone wolf, so if I don't find myself in a group of guys, is it unsafe to walk around there at night? Can you take a chick you see standing in one of those building doorways up to the room without buying any drinks first, I assume so. Thaispice was saying La Casona nightclub tried to rip him off for drinks, is that typical, or what clubs should be avoided there?

I'm into very curvy women, ass and tits all the way! Are there clubs that are better for this type? (nearer the centre if possible). And I also like mulattas and black chicks, they don't have to be European looking! To me a pretentious club with skinny Barbie girls asking me to buy them champagne is my idea of a a boring nightmare. I will take a 30 year old with a big smile and a nice rack and ass over that any day!

I read a lot of you guys talking about chicks you meet online, maybe I'm not as with it as some of you, as I've only really used Badoo for this in the past in the DR. What better sites should I be using? If I don't know anyone yet there, there's no point on Facebook for example.

Ok guys, sorry for all the questions, but any help would be much appreciated!

[ThaiSpice]

Hey guys, I'll be coming to Colombia for the first time in late January for at least 3 weeks. I speak pretty good Spanish and have mongered a lot in Europe, the DR and Argentina, though all I know about Colombia is what have read and seen online. I've read back many pages here, but still have to ask some annoying newbie questions.

I would like to rent an Airbnb place near the centre and Santa Fe, what neighborhoods should I be looking at? Is Santa Fe within walking distance of the centre, shops cafes etc? Are taxi's there cheap / safe? What about the metro? Is Santa Fe safe to walk around during the daytime, I see it gets dark around 6 pm. I'm a bit of a lone wolf, so if I don't find myself in a group of guys, is it unsafe to walk around there at night? Can you take a chick you see standing in one of those building doorways up to the room without buying any drinks first, I assume so. Thaispice was saying La Casona nightclub tried to rip him off for drinks, is that typical, or what clubs should be avoided there?Hey,

I've been to Colombia over ten times and have had an excellent experience each time. Overall I have been to Bogota the most due to the friendly prices and the fact that there are more options there then anywhere else. I've never stayed in Santa Fe but stay close around 10-15 minutes by taxi. Taxis and Uber are safe. I did have one uber driver try to rip me off in Medellin but that's not the norm. I now have a personal driver in Bogota for convenience.

I only go to Santa Fe for chicas and nothing else so I can't comment on food and lodging. I've walked around Santa Fe at 3 pm and even at 3 am. It's sketchy so I recommend a wingman for first time and speaking Spanish makes things easier. Another option is befriend a taxi driver who can show you around. Any chick standing around you can just grab and she will take you to a motel. I've been to most of the clubs there and the la Casona incident was a one off. You have to remember you are looked at as a rich tourist so you always have to be on guard for the hustle.

As far as chicas, there are so many there you will find what you like and don't think there is a particular club for what you like.

I'm actually going to be there the end of January too and plan to stay at around SF for the first time at Hotel Oceania. Area looks shady but its walkable to Santa Fe and I'll be with friends so we are going to give it a try.

I've done the online ads in Bogota and both times were bait and switch so I don't recommend that.

[Coupe66]

Wow! Just found this website, some nice looking chicas on that! This is a sister website to slumi.com in Spain which I have used before. I didn't realise the prepagado market was so well developed in Colombia, in the DR for example you can forget about finding something similar! When a chica puts $ 150 as her price, does that mean 150,000 peso or 150 USD. I hope peso's!! Damn.......I have to get to this country urgently and start ruining my bank account !

https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota

[Arcangel]

I went last Saturday to Chicas Milenio and it was closed. I stopped by on Tuesday and the situation was the same. I found the guy that works in the door of Chicas 2000 (the casa located at the front of Chicas Milenio) and the guy let me in using an alternative door. Inside, I found only 3 girls working and one of them explained to me that both places were intervened by the police the last Friday.I was there (Calle 71 #14 A-24) just now. Both places are closed. A guy on the street told me that police shut down Chicas Milenio because they put up signs outside. It's only allowed as long as it's discrete. He said Chicas 2000 should be open again on Monday.

And he gave me a paper with an address and said the girls are there. Calle 67 #23-24 piso 3. This place is not on the map yet.

[Mr Enternational]

Can you take a chick you see standing in one of those building doorways up to the room without buying any drinks first, I assume so.I don't know which building doorways you are talking about. The casa or the bar, or the strip club, the restaurant, the beauty shop, or the disco. You would have to be more specific. Funny thing. Over in the Sosua thread, Thailand threads, Philippines threads guys talk about buying a chick drinks first and if you don't buy drinks the girls will think you are cheap, etc. Well in Santa Fe forget all that bullshit. I don't think a chick has ever asked me for a drink (maybe in La Piscina). They are there to get money for fucking. You don't have to pussyfoot around the issue or kiss up to them by buying drinks and stuff. Just get the price and go to the room. Same as it is with all hookers in my eyes. I don't play too much into the fantasy or the "interview/warming up process. " She is here to get money and I am here to get pussy. Let's get to fucking so you can get on to the next customer and I can get on to the next girl.

[Mr Enternational]

Wow! Just found this website, some nice looking chicas on that! This is a sister website to slumi.com in Spain which I have used before. I didn't realise the prepagado market was so well developed in Colombia, in the DR for example you can forget about finding something similar! When a chica puts $ 150 as her price, does that mean 150,000 peso or 150 USD. I hope peso's!! Damn.......I have to get to this country urgently and start ruining my bank account !

https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogotaLOL. You haven't read the forum have you?

[Coupe66]

I don't know which building doorways you are talking about I'm talking about the downstairs of the buildings in Santa Fe I've seen on youtube videos, where you can see all the girls just hanging out waiting for clients. I guess you don't have to take them for any drink, was just getting a bit confused thinking about Thaispice's comments about the club ripping him off ! Actually, I'm just like you, if a woman asks me to buy them an expensive drink, I tell them I prefer to spend my money on the chica, that way I'm making my point, and letting them know also that they're not wasting their time !

[Coupe66]

LOL. You haven't read the forum have you?What, are you going to tell me they're all fakes? I have read back about 10 pages, plus have been reading Medellin, Cali and Barranquilla threads too. I can't read everything in one go. Please enlighten me !

[Calam]

Can anyone point me in the right direction to start listing some fb chicas in Bogota? I'm assuming that there is a similar scene as there is medellin in terms of FB contacts. Thank you! A name or two would be tremendously helpful.

[Mr Enternational]

What, are you going to tell me they're all fakes? I have read back about 10 pages, plus have been reading Medellin, Cali and Barranquilla threads too. I can't read everything in one go. Please enlighten me !No. Only that it is conventional info in the Colombia threads that photoprepagos is one of the websites that hookers advertise on. This is from one of my posts in the Medellin thread from 2 weeks ago that mentions that site and 2 others.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm talking about the downstairs of the buildings in Santa Fe I've seen on youtube videos, where you can see all the girls just hanging out waiting for clients. Maybe you are talking about the casas. There are no drinks or anything to buy, only hookers and rooms.

[Coupe66]

I meant the chicas hanging out in the entrances to these type of places. Are they Casas or is that something else? In general, are these places safe to go into, and are the rooms clean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPTb953Lsyc

Same goes for Medellin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI

[World Travel 69]

They are Street Walkers, that will take in to the hotel.

Check the Map and you can see the difference.


I meant the chicas hanging out in the entrances to these type of places. Are they Casas or is that something else? In general, are these places safe to go into, and are the rooms clean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPTb953Lsyc

Same goes for Medellin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI

[Nounce]

I meant the chicas hanging out in the entrances to these type of places. Are they Casas or is that something else? In general, are these places safe to go into, and are the rooms clean?
Those are short time hotels like Pokeris described. After you pick a girl, she will take you upstairs.





Later I walk to santa fe it was 4 pm evening so was not so busy yet but plenty of girls too choose I visited California club have some cute girls inside and after decided to find some street girl. Opposite paisas club I saw group of girls one was good looking I offer her 40 mil for 30 minutes she want 60 mil after some negotation we agree on 50 mil for 30 minutes. We walk inside short time hotel I give her 50 mil and she pay for a room herself. .

[Pokeris]

Staying at casa guillermo at chapinero its cheap place 70 mil pesos per night for single room. Its clean, have hot shower, doubles beds, internet, tv and its near all chapinero casas.

Ron con piernas carrera. 17 No. 70 A-68 I was walking then guy invite me upstairs and said chicas. I ask how much for 20 minutes and 30 min he said 20 min-25 mil 30 min-30 mil. I walk inside have have 6-7 girls sitting all not my taste so I said thank you and left. This casa is not on the map I think. When I was walking back same street after 1 hour guy give me business card of this place. I will add photo.

I walk to chicas 2000 but they was closed guy next to the doors give me paper with new temporary address Calle 67#23-24 3 piso. I walk to this place it was easy to find its on the same long street where many ugly freelancers standing. I find add ress walk into lift go floor 3. Guy invite me to the room and show 7-8 girls same time I like just one choose venezualian 18 years old name jina. I defenitely not reccomend this girl she don't have any expierence at bed. At first she try to scam me I ask how much is for 30 minutes she told me 60 mil I said its not 60 when she told ok 50 mil. They have big room at that place also jacuzzi and sauna but girl told me next week thy will comeback old location. Jina was not good at bed at all, she don't know how to suck properly, also how to fuck after 10 minutes of useless fucking and sucking I take a condom of and told her to wank for me. She was useless on it also I lost all my mood could get hard anymore so just give up and left. It was my worst expierence so far in Colombia.

Acuarius carerra 19#67-93 4-5 girls upstairs all ugly.

I was walking from acuarius when guy opposite street see me and shout me to come. I go to him he open the doors and I go inside. The people was sitting and drinking inside. This casa have 6-7 girls I like 2 girls here I ask the prices they told me 30 min-40 mil 1 hour-80 mil. I choose the girl name mellany with cute face and nice ass 21 or 22 years old colombian. I pay 40 mil for 30 minutes and go upstairs with a girl. The room is small but looks clean have fan. She done covered blowjob after jump on me and ride hard seems she enjoyed sex also. I could cum I take condom and she start wank for me at the same time she spread her legs and start masturbate her pussy so fast she was so excited even squirt little bit. She wank for me more till I cum. I walk downstairs and on google translator ask girl to write me adress of this place and name so I can comeback. Calle 68#17-87 Bahia de agosto. Its seems also not on casas map.

I also check casa next door on the maps its says castillo spa they have 4-5 girls but all was not good looking 30 min-40 mil 1 hour-80 mil. Defenitely not worth it.

I will add photos of my hotel room, and casa business card with othe casa address also new temporary adress for chicas millenio 2000.

[Pokeris]

Arrived around 8. 30 pm Friday night it was really busy many girls on streets I saw at least 5-6 girls I liked. Visited club troya entry fee 6 mil it was packed could find empty table to sit. Walk around little bit have some good looking girls finish my water and left. Visited other places like la cosona, fiebre, atunes it was full of people also and some cute girls. Last night I didint take any girl because I was feeling like over fuck already in the all last days. 10 pm catch uber and comeback my hotel go bed early because have flight in the morning.

[World Travel 69]

Thanks for your information.

I added some photos of the places to the places you visited.


Staying at casa guillermo at chapinero its cheap place 70 mil pesos per night for single room. Its clean, have hot shower, doubles beds, internet, tv and its near all chapinero casas.

Ron con piernas carrera. 17 No. 70 A-68 I was walking then guy invite me upstairs and said chicas. I ask how much for 20 minutes and 30 min he said 20 min-25 mil 30 min-30 mil. I walk inside have have 6-7 girls sitting all not my taste so I said thank you and left. This casa is not on the map I think. When I was walking back same street after 1 hour guy give me business card of this place. I will add photo.

I walk to chicas 2000 but they was closed guy next to the doors give me paper with new temporary address Calle 67#23-24 3 piso. I walk to this place it was easy to find its on the same long street where many ugly freelancers standing. I find add ress walk into lift go floor 3. Guy invite me to the room and show 7-8 girls same time I like just one choose venezualian 18 years old name jina. I defenitely not reccomend this girl she don't have any expierence at bed. At first she try to scam me I ask how much is for 30 minutes she told me 60 mil I said its not 60 when she told ok 50 mil. They have big room at that place also jacuzzi and sauna but girl told me next week thy will comeback old location. Jina was not good at bed at all, she don't know how to suck properly, also how to fuck after 10 minutes of useless fucking and sucking I take a condom of and told her to wank for me. She was useless on it also I lost all my mood could get hard anymore so just give up and left. It was my worst expierence so far in Colombia.

Acuarius carerra 19#67-93 4-5 girls upstairs all ugly.

I was walking from acuarius when guy opposite street see me and shout me to come. I go to him he open the doors and I go inside. The people was sitting and drinking inside. This casa have 6-7 girls I like 2 girls here I ask the prices they told me 30 min-40 mil 1 hour-80 mil. I choose the girl name mellany with cute face and nice ass 21 or 22 years old colombian. I pay 40 mil for 30 minutes and go upstairs with a girl. The room is small but looks clean have fan. She done covered blowjob after jump on me and ride hard seems she enjoyed sex also. I could cum I take condom and she start wank for me at the same time she spread her legs and start masturbate her pussy so fast she was so excited even squirt little bit. She wank for me more till I cum. I walk downstairs and on google translator ask girl to write me adress of this place and name so I can comeback. Calle 68#17-87 Bahia de agosto. Its seems also not on casas map.

I also check casa next door on the maps its says castillo spa they have 4-5 girls but all was not good looking 30 min-40 mil 1 hour-80 mil. Defenitely not worth it.

I will add photos of my hotel room, and casa business card with othe casa address also new temporary address for chicas millenio 2000.

[Coupe66]

Thaispice, thanks for all your advice!

A few more questions I'm afraid. What street should I look at on google maps if I want to see the centre of street action in Santa Fe? La candeleria is the city centre, right? Generally safe to wander around there? Where are the majority of clubs, in Santa Fe or elsewhere?

Thats disappointing what you said re. Online ads, were they from the website Prepagados or other sites? Mundo Annuncio seems to be pretty crap there. There are many chicas on prepagados I like in Usaquen, is that a good area to stay in? Seems a long way from the cente though, so maybe not.

[Coupe66]

I don't see any Bogota map on the forum, only one for Medellin, plus I had to request access, still not given. Can someone please point me in the right direction, or tell me what I'm doing wrong to get access?

[Nounce]

I don't see any Bogota map on the forum, only one for Medellin, plus I had to request access, still not given. Can someone please point me in the right direction, or tell me what I'm doing wrong to get access?You will find them in Bogota List and Bogota FAQ forums.

[World Travel 69]

The Lists and Map Thread.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists


I don't see any Bogota map on the forum, only one for Medellin, plus I had to request access, still not given. Can someone please point me in the right direction, or tell me what I'm doing wrong to get access?

[Woodman09]

I meant the chicas hanging out in the entrances to these type of places. Are they Casas or is that something else? In general, are these places safe to go into, and are the rooms clean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPTb953Lsyc

Same goes for Medellin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PIActually in the Bogota video. Santa Fe is only shown up to 2:29 and the rest is a low quality area in Nieves close by.

The Santa Fe area shown is the street action (much better at night) The girls work out of the hotel they stand in front of usually. $30.000 to $60.000.

[Coupe66]

Sorry to say, but it's called reading Sorry to say, but that's called sarcasm. Helps if I knew WHERE to read. Thanks to Nounce, now I do !

[Mr Enternational]

A few more questions I'm afraid. What street should I look at on google maps if I want to see the centre of street action in Santa Fe? La candeleria is the city centre, right? Generally safe to wander around there? Where are the majority of clubs, in Santa Fe or elsewhere?Dude you are overthinking it. Go stay in Bogota then hop in a taxi and say Santa Fe. Get out and walk around and choose a chick to go to a room with. Hop back in a taxi and go back to where you are staying. Or if you are like me, walk back to your hotel.

[Coupe66]

Dude you are overthinking it. Go stay in Bogota then hop in a taxi and say Santa Fe. Get out and walk around and choose a chick to go to a room with. Hop back in a taxi and go back to where you are staying. Or if you are like me, walk back to your hotel.Yes, maybe you're right! I know a few more of my answers now actually after looking at the Bogota lists and FAQ's. Though it's not very helpful checking out the street scene action on Google maps, maybe they filmed on a Sunday morning or something, but didn't see many women around, compared to those I saw on the youtube videos. And too much google street trawling there, would put you off going, as there's some pretty dodgy looking streets! On the Bogota lists, the amount of Casas and Nighclubs is staggering, how the hell will I ever decide where to go?

[World Travel 69]

A lot of guys would have just said RTFF.


Sorry to say, but that's called sarcasm. Helps if I knew WHERE to read. Thanks to Nounce, now I do !

[Arcangel]

Galerias.

I walked around Santa Fe at 11 pm on Friday. Plenty of girls but none I would get hard for, they may be young but I don't find them fresh or cute. And the touts outside the clubs are like flies, many and persistent, but you can wave them off. If you want the most number of girls in the shortest time for the least money, this is where to come.

My limiting factor, however, is not money or time but leches, so I prefer quality to quantity. Here you have my recommendation for the other end of the spectrum, an establishment with five-star rooms and five-star service:

Nanxing Spa, Cra 24 #53-86, ring bell 201, opposite mall Galerias, 10 chicas, massages 60 min, 90 k with girl in uniform, 120 k in underwear with handjob, 170 k full sex, Mon-sat 8 am-10 pm, sun 10 am-7 pm, www.nanxingspa.com.co at nanxingspa, 3214851113.

The place is not new so I'm surprised it's not on the map. 170 k may seem like a lot, but I think it's good value for what you're getting. Apparently some Japanese customers like to take three girl for an hour in the hot tub. 3 x170 k = 510 k is still good value for the level of service, I guess. Put it on the expense account.

Nearby is a place I reported a while back as Akira. The correct name is Adhara. Maybe four-star to Nanxing's five.

Adhara Spa, Carrera 24 #52-68 (near mall Galerias), white door, ring bell 301.10 Chicas. Prices: from 60 k, Massage+FS, 150 k hour. Tel: +Whatsapp 322 371 2050. Hours: Monday to Saturday 9 am to 9 pm, Sunday 9 am to 6 pm, 3223712050 3194100196.

In the same area is this place, but I wouldn't give it any stars.

Atraction Spa, Carrera 21 #53-35, massage 50 k 120 k 150 k, every day 9 am-9 pm, 3125755537.

And this casa is also not on the map. Nothing special here:

Galerias casa, Calle 51 #22-48 golden door, 4 ch, 60 k 20 min, 80 k 30 min, 120 k 1 h, 130 k trio, 3138928283.

And I found this info for a place vaguely near the airport. Haven't been there.

Ram Sex Spa, Barrio Castilla Calle 9 #78-16,60 k 30 min, 80 k 60 min, 3195069322.

[Coupe66]

I walked around Santa Fe at 11 pm on Friday. Plenty of girls but none I would get hard for, they may be young but I don't find them fresh or cute. And the touts outside the clubs are like flies, many and persistent, but you can wave them off. If you want the most number of girls in the shortest time for the least money, this is where to come.

Nanxing Spa, Cra 24 #53-86, ring bell 201, opposite mall Galerias, 10 chicas, massages 60 min, 90 k with girl in uniform, 120 k in underwear with handjob, 170 k full sex, Mon-sat 8 am-10 pm, sun 10 am-7 pm, www.nanxingspa.com.co at nanxingspa, 3214851113 Hey Arcangel, are you talking about the streetwalkers in Santa Fe, or did you go into any of the clubs? Re. Nanxing spa, I had a look at their website. Is that the typical shape of chicas in the brothels there, because to me they all look too similar and not my type, slim with small tits! I like more curvier types, big tits not essential but welcome!

[Arcangel]

Hey Arcangel, are you talking about the streetwalkers in Santa Fe, or did you go into any of the clubs? Re. Nanxing spa, I had a look at their website. Is that the typical shape of chicas in the brothels there, because to me they all look too similar and not my type, slim with small tits! I like more curvier types, big tits not essential but welcome!I didn't go into the clubs this time but before and I didn't find the girls inside so different from the girls outside. Some walk in and out, as well. When you go inside, the tout fill follow you, sit you at a table, ask which beer you want and probably overcharge you for it.

Obviously, your taste in girls is very different from mine, and that's all right. Just come down here, go everywhere and find out what works for you. Maybe no big curvy girls at Nanxing, but brothels in general have every type. Your taste is not uncommon here. Just shop around, if you're in a place and they don't have anyone who excites you, just say a polite thank you, leave and try somewhere else. I might comment to the manageress that I am looking for a flaca (slim), if they obviously don't have one. Or I might suggest I come back another day if they say they have more girls who are not present. In Colombia, "tomorrow" can be a polite way of saying no.

[The Tall Man]

Galerias.

I walked around Santa Fe at 11 pm on Friday. Plenty of girls but none I would get hard for, they may be young but I don't find them fresh or cute. And the touts outside the clubs are like flies, many and persistent, but you can wave them off. If you want the most number of girls in the shortest time for the least money, this is where to come.

My limiting factor, however, is not money or time but leches, so I prefer quality to quantity. Here you have my recommendation for the other end of the spectrum, an establishment with five-star rooms and five-star service:

Nanxing Spa, Cra 24 #53-86, ring bell 201, opposite mall Galerias, 10 chicas, massages 60 min, 90 k with girl in uniform, 120 k in underwear with handjob, 170 k full sex, Mon-sat 8 am-10 pm, sun 10 am-7 pm, www.nanxingspa.com.co at nanxingspa, 3214851113.

The place is not new so I'm surprised it's not on the map. 170 k may seem like a lot, but I think it's good value for what you're getting. Apparently some Japanese customers like to take three girl for an hour in the hot tub. 3 x170 k = 510 k is still good value for the level of service, I guess. Put it on the expense account.

Nearby is a place I reported a while back as Akira. The correct name is Adhara. Maybe four-star to Nanxing's five.

Adhara Spa, Carrera 24 #52-68 (near mall Galerias), white door, ring bell 301.10 Chicas. Prices: from 60 k, Massage+FS, 150 k hour. Tel: +Whatsapp 322 371 2050. Hours: Monday to Saturday 9 am to 9 pm, Sunday 9 am to 6 pm, 3223712050 3194100196.

In the same area is this place, but I wouldn't give it any stars.

Atraction Spa, Carrera 21 #53-35, massage 50 k 120 k 150 k, every day 9 am-9 pm, 3125755537.

And this casa is also not on the map. Nothing special here:

Galerias casa, Calle 51 #22-48 golden door, 4 ch, 60 k 20 min, 80 k 30 min, 120 k 1 h, 130 k trio, 3138928283.

And I found this info for a place vaguely near the airport. Haven't been there.

Ram Sex Spa, Barrio Castilla Calle 9 #78-16,60 k 30 min, 80 k 60 min, 3195069322."And the touts outside the clubs are like flies, many and persistent, but you can wave them off. " They are worse than flies, fuck them as I had 3 and 4 surround me barking their BS stories for half a block, jajajajaja, about the worst I have experienced in my over 20 years of mongering in all parts of the el mundo.

Now saying this last month when I was in Sante Fe I found a real cutie Venezuelan about 24 year old, great smile, great attitude and a stripper body, yes a SW, I had fun and it was my first experience in Sante Fe since the last time I played in Bogota which was about 2010.

The Tall Man.

[Coupe66]

"And the touts outside the clubs are like flies, many and persistent, but you can wave them off. " They are worse than flies, fuck them as I had 3 and 4 surround me barking their BS stories for half a block, jajajajaja, about the worst I have experienced in my over 20 years of mongering in all parts of the el mundo.

Now saying this last month when I was in Sante Fe I found a real cutie Venezuelan about 24 year old, great smile, great attitude and a stripper body, yes a SW, I had fun and it was my first experience in Sante Fe since the last time I played in Bogota which was about 2010 What's the best strategy for getting rid of them, just ignore them? How do they react to being told to get lost, in Spanish of course! (No me molestes hombre, for example). Can't you just go straight to the bar in a club there, I certainly wouldn't want some guy I don't know sitting at my table, ordering me beers, I can do that myself!

[Coupe66]

Having read Routard's comprehensive report about Bogota on the FAQ's, I reckon Chapinero would be a good neighborhood to stay in, as there is daytime and nightime action there and it's not too far from Santa Fe either. The brothels / clubs seem to be all over the place there from my google map reseach, as do the hotels there. Is there any part of Chapinero where many clubs / brothels are concentrated? I can't see that from my research. As as European, I would like to be able to walk to a few, and not hop around all over the place constantly by Taxi, in the daytime at least.

I've also seen a lot of availability of nice Airbnb places in Chapinero, I noted what Routard said about them having doormen / security. What's the general policy there about bringing visitors to your place, as long as they have ID its no problem for the security? I noticed on one apartment for rent, where they stated clearly 'No escorts allowed!' But for all others I checked there was no mention about it. Wouldn't really like to ask the host before booking 'Is it OK to bring visitors', unless I have to. So what's the general policy?

[Nounce]

What's the best strategy for getting rid of them, just ignore them? TTM already said to wave them off. You go into the club and order drink from the bar directly so you won't be charged more.

[Stinger]

Coupe,

Go on wikisexguide and type in Bogota. There is a map of the Santa Fe "Tolerance Zone" that is very accurate, including the safest way to walk in. I highly recommend you not walk even one block out of that area. There are a lot of shady looking characters standing on corners and walking around. Practically every building on Carrera 15 and 16 has rooms where you can do the girls standing out front. The chicas change as the day goes on- some of these work here during the day and at other more expensive places later. The clubs are mixed in, so like I said there is literally something to do in each space. You will be approached by people selling candy or trying to lure you into a club. Just say no gracias and wave them off. Make sure you have no watch or ring or anything else fancy showing. I had my prescription sunglasses on and was on Carrera 16 A and a young man crossed the street and told me he wanted to trade my sunglasses for his cheap pair. He did not understand that they were prescription. So, he grabbed my jacket and pulled out a knife with the blade still sheathed and pointed to my glasses. I got away from him and ran and he did not come after me. That was at 2 PM with others around. He never showed the blade, but that was a little scary. So, I just stay on 15 and 16 now. I have never been there after dark, but have been there morning and afternoon. It is the cheapest place in Bogota with the most variety. Every type and race of women is represented. 18 to 40's. Curvy and skinny. Tall and short. Lots of cute women but also some that look thin and slightly unhealthy. Many are Venezuelans who are desperate for money. I smile and treat them well and pay their very small fee and have never had a bad one in the room.

Stinger.

[Mr Enternational]

So what's the general policy?Come on man. You are asking a bunch of rudimentary questions like you have never been outside before. If someone says in general you can bring visitors then what would that matter? You may then go choose the spot assuming you can have visitors based on a general question and arbitrary answer. Would it not make more sense to work out all those kinks and details with whoever you are renting from? How to tell someone you do not need their services? Come on man. Act like you have been somewhere before. I see this thing going the way of SBT in the Medellin forum. Asked 1000 questions and got to Medellin and flopped.

[Coupe66]

Come on man. You are asking a bunch of rudimentary questions like you have never been outside before. If someone says in general you can bring visitors then what would that matter? You may then go choose the spot assuming you can have visitors based on a general question and arbitrary answer. Would it not make more sense to work out all those kinks and details with whoever you are renting from? How to tell someone you do not need their services? Come on man. Act like you have been somewhere before. I see this thing going the way of SBT in the Medellin forum. Asked 1000 questions and got to Medellin and flopped.Compared to some of the bullshit I see written on the Sosua thread which are completely off topic, I think that was a pretty clear question! Haven't I seen you on there? If you bothered to read what I wrote, I have read the whole of Routard's excellent report and the lists of Casa's / Clubs etc and have gathered all the info I could.

Doorman policies are different all over the world, how am I to know what they're like in Colombia / Bogota without asking? As I wrote, I would prefer not to ask the owner, as you may lose a nice apartment, simply for asking the question. It may be allowed, but if you ask they might think you're going to turn their place into an orgy party! Re. telling someone you don't need their services, in some countries the only way you can get rid of people hassling you is to tell them to 'Fuck off' to their face, which works as they only respect toughness. In other countries it may get you shot. Nuances of different cultures my friend. You know Bogota, I don't. So take a chill pill!

[Mr Enternational]

Re. telling someone you don't need their services, in some countries the only way you can get rid of people hassling you is to tell them to 'Fuck off' to their face, which works as they only respect toughness. In other countries it may get you shot. Nuances of different cultures my friend. You know Bogota, I don't. So take a chill pill!But in this case we are talking about a guy that works there. His job is to get people into the club and spending money. You would not tell any of the girls outside the door at your neighborhood club to fuck off would you?

As far as giving you the wrong price, anyone could do that. That is why I ask for a menu or ask how much something costs before I order it. I was at a cabaret in Nice, France with some friends once. They ordered drinks while I asked to see a menu. I opened the menu up and the cheapest thing in it was water at 35 euro. The drinks they ordered were 40 euro each!

[Questner]

Having read Routard's comprehensive report about Bogota on the FAQ's, I reckon Chapinero would be a good neighborhood to stay in, as there is daytime and nightime action there and it's not too far from Santa Fe either. The brothels / clubs seem to be all over the place there from my google map reseach, as do the hotels there. Is there any part of Chapinero where many clubs / brothels are concentrated? I can't see that from my research. As as European, I would like to be able to walk to a few, and not hop around all over the place constantly by Taxi, in the daytime at least.

I've also seen a lot of availability of nice Airbnb places in Chapinero, I noted what Routard said about them having doormen / security. What's the general policy there about bringing visitors to your place, as long as they have ID its no problem for the security? I noticed on one apartment for rent, where they stated clearly 'No escorts allowed!' But for all others I checked there was no mention about it. Wouldn't really like to ask the host before booking 'Is it OK to bring visitors', unless I have to. So what's the general policy?Stay from northern part of Chapinero, for example Avenida Calle 85 (La Cabrera) to Usaquen. Better areas, not much difference in taxi fare. Yes, you have to be absolutely sure the building is guest friendly. If not, take a look at the love motels nearby and take her there. The best way is always to be polite, firm and upfront.

[Woodman09]

But in this case we are talking about a guy that works there. His job is to get people into the club and spending money. You would not tell any of the girls outside the door at your neighborhood club to fuck off would you?

As far as giving you the wrong price, anyone could do that. That is why I ask for a menu or ask how much something costs before I order it. I was at a cabaret in Nice, France with some friends once. They ordered drinks while I asked to see a menu. I opened the menu up and the cheapest thing in it was water at 35 euro. The drinks they ordered were 40 euro each!Thank You Mr Enternational! Being rude is almost never the answer. I deal with these guys weekly.

When walking by clubs I just say ¨despues' and it's no big deal. When I go into the clubs they follow me around trying to get us to sit, we continue walking through and I say we want to look ¨queremos ver¨. You are supposed to buy a drink but sometimes we will stand there a minute or two just checking out the scene and I will slip the guy 1-2 mil. And they are happy. I have many friends in SF who help me with tables and they will alert the girls to sashay by and flirt with us. If you sit and don't want a drink you can give the waiter 1-2 mil and that should buy you enough time to know if you want to stay.

Poker Beers cost $5-$8 mil same as water in most of the clubs. Coronas or RedBull More. Ask your waiter.

[Coupe66]

Stay from northern part of Chapinero, for example Avenida Calle 85 (La Cabrera) to Usaquen. Better areas, not much difference in taxi fare Thanks for the advice, looks like a nice area!

[Coupe66]

Coupe,

Go on wikisexguide and type in Bogota. There is a map of the Santa Fe "Tolerance Zone" that is very accurate, including the safest way to walk in. I highly recommend you not walk even one block out of that area. There are a lot of shady looking characters standing on corners and walking around. Practically every building on Carrera 15 and 16 has rooms where you can do the girls standing out front. The chicas change as the day goes on- some of these work here during the day and at other more expensive places later. The clubs are mixed in, so like I said there is literally something to do in each space. You will be approached by people selling candy or trying to lure you into a club. Just say no gracias and wave them off. Make sure you have no watch or ring or anything else fancy showing. I had my prescription sunglasses on and was on Carrera 16 A and a young man crossed the street and told me he wanted to trade my sunglasses for his cheap pair. He did not understand that they were prescription. So, he grabbed my jacket and pulled out a knife with the blade still sheathed and pointed to my glasses. I got away from him and ran and he did not come after me. That was at 2 PM with others around. He never showed the blade, but that was a little scary. So, I just stay on 15 and 16 now. I have never been there after dark, but have been there morning and afternoon. It is the cheapest place in Bogota with the most variety. Every type and race of women is represented. 18 to 40's. Curvy and skinny. Tall and short. Lots of cute women but also some that look thin and slightly unhealthy. Many are Venezuelans who are desperate for money. I smile and treat them well and pay their very small fee and have never had a bad one in the room. Stinger.Thanks for the advice, the information on wikisex is also pretty useful. The info on the streets where the action is seems to be all over the place though, they contradict what's written on the lists here, but anyway.

Glad you got away from that guy OK who tried to mug you for your shades! How were you were looking, dressed down enough on the day? And what's the dress code to go to these clubs at night, surely a bit smarter? Is it safe to just jump in any taxi when leaving a club there at night, by nature I would be a bit dubious to do that.

[Mr Enternational]

When walking by clubs I just say despues' and it's no big deal. When I go into the clubs they follow me around trying to get us to sit, we continue walking through and I say we want to look queremos ver. You are supposed to buy a drink but sometimes we will stand there a minute or two just checking out the scene and I will slip the guy 1-2 mil. And they are happy.Besides, it is free to go in. As much as I hate the back home comparison, back home it costs $20 just to park your car at some strip clubs, so the least you could do is buy a cheap drink when you are getting in free. Last month when I was in California I bought a Coke for 5 K and just sat there until I decided which girl I wanted to take (or if I wanted to take one at all).

[JjBee62]

Compared to some of the bullshit I see written on the Sosua thread which are completely off topic, I think that was a pretty clear question! Haven't I seen you on there? If you bothered to read what I wrote, I have read the whole of Routard's excellent report and the lists of Casa's / Clubs etc and have gathered all the info I could.

Doorman policies are different all over the world, how am I to know what they're like in Colombia / Bogota without asking? As I wrote, I would prefer not to ask the owner, as you may lose a nice apartment, simply for asking the question. It may be allowed, but if you ask they might think you're going to turn their place into an orgy party! Re. telling someone you don't need their services, in some countries the only way you can get rid of people hassling you is to tell them to 'Fuck off' to their face, which works as they only respect toughness. In other countries it may get you shot. Nuances of different cultures my friend. You know Bogota, I don't. So take a chill pill!Which would you prefer? Don't ask about bringing visitors back to your apartment and then have them turned away at the door, or asking if a place allows visitors and finding out what the limitations are? If the host refuses to rent to you because you asked a very common question, then it's ridiculous to think the place is going to be cool with you bringing in 3 girls every day.

If you don't ask, don't complain when your plans fall through.

As for getting rid of people, I use 2 words: "no. Gracias. " If they persist, I repeat and wave them off. If the third time doesn't work I might add "no entiendes la palabra no?

[SilverStackr1]

I went to SF tonight for a little fun, On the 23rd st sidewalk there were 60 girls all lined up. There were at least 100 girls on the block at least half I would want to get with.

I met a pretty 19 yo Venezolano white girl with dark brown hair, Banged her hard. She was a nice petite girl. Looked like a teen cover model. Will repeat one day soon.

On Sunday afternoon I was on a tour and we were walking SF it was pretty slow on the street, a few nice girls. We went to the club row and walked into a Bahia. It was like a party going on. A bunch of hot girls partying with a few guys. I started dirty dancing with this pretty 20 yr old morena with big natural double the-cups. Ended up upstairs with her. Will repeat one day soon.That sounds great! Very nice stories. I'm flying in on 11/24. Paid the fee to ISG just so I could PM you but it hasn't gone through for the last 10 days because I had to mail it from USA. [Personal message deleted by Admin]

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[Coupe66]

then it's ridiculous to think the place is going to be cool with you bringing in 3 girls every day 3 girls a day? LOL! In my dreams! Couldn't manage it even if I could afford it! 1 every 2 days is about all I can handle these days! Just you wait, the years will catch up with you too !

[GreenBud]

Poker Beers cost $5-$8 mil same as water in most of the clubs. Coronas or RedBull More. Ask your waiter.Tourist should not ask the waiters. At Santa Fe, majority of the waiters will rip off the tourist. They will usually overcharge you by 1 or 2 mi. I always tip them if they don't overcharge me. But it's hard to find an honest waiter, so now I just go to the bartenders. The bartender at the Trop is very happy when I give him 1 mil on my 7 mil Club Colombia. The worst rip off was at California. That fucker tried to charge me 15 mil for a Club Colombia.

Do locals tip the waiters? I have never seen locals tip for beers in Santa Fe or at Pussy House.

[JjBee62]

3 girls a day? LOL! In my dreams! Couldn't manage it even if I could afford it! 1 every 2 days is about all I can handle these days! Just you wait, the years will catch up with you too !The years already caught up me. I'm definitely not a 3 a day guy. But there are plenty of guys who show up with that plan and then can't figure out why an Airbnb would have a problem with it.

[Stinger]

Coupe,

I was in jeans, dark tennis shoes, dark pullover windbreaker. No jewelry, and my shades had a dark blue frame. The problem is I am a gringo and I stick out. I have white skin and grey hair. Almost everyone on the street has darker skin and dark hair. After I did one young Venezuelan who looked to have recently arrived, she found out I was from the US. "You're a gringo!" she said in a shocked manner in Spanish. She must have been told by Maduro that I was the devil. But I treated her well and tipped her. Some of them appear to be in survival mode. Santa Fe is a fascinating place, but just keep your eyes open. Like I said, I have never been there at night. There appears to be no dress code for anything in the daytime. It is mostly a dirty rundown area.

Stinger.

[Woodman09]

Police surrounded SF tonight Closed the streets and shut down all clubs accept Fiebre, just a few girls on the street. I was told they detained 140 girls and are deporting them.

[KangarooTed]

Police surrounded SF tonight Closed the streets and shut down all clubs accept Fiebre, just a few girls on the street. I was told they detained 140 girls and are deporting them.That's unfortunate. Hopefully it's a one off and there'll be another 150 on their way.

Does it happen often? What is the real reason?

[Woodman09]

That's unfortunate. Hopefully it's a one off and there'll be another 150 on their way.

Does it happen often? What is the real reason?Hey Now,

Never saw anything like this before. Real reason I believe is to exert control over the Venezuelan illegals. They say in a lot of the reports that they had rounded up criminals too.

Targeting [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) prostitution, pimping, and drugs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MP82IHRugc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvpe3ytRwto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y2CtXqqIOI

[The Tall Man]

Police surrounded SF tonight Closed the streets and shut down all clubs accept Fiebre, just a few girls on the street. I was told they detained 140 girls and are deporting them.Woodman, say it an't so!

Wow this is bad and sad news, what is going on?

The Tall Man.

[Global00]

This report is a little late. I arrived in Bogota at midnight on 11/22. Stayed near the airport. Dropped off bags and headed to Sante Fe. Alot of women on the street and the club. Mostly Venezuelan. More women than men. Heaven on Earth. A bunch of hotness and in the club. I hit up Atunes, Troya, Paisa, and Fiebre. Session with two big butt Venezuelans in Atunes for 40 k each. Troya had a midget stripper for about an hour. First time I seen that. Went over to Paisa. Hotness thoroughout. Decided to see what Fiebre looked like but got stopped by 21 year old green eyed big butt beauty. Decided on 60 k for 30 minutes. Stayed up there with here for an hour LOL. She told me that she just got here last week. Was hesitant giving me photos but finally pulled through. We exchanged numbers and I went over to Fiebre. Metal a. Gorgeous big titty 20 year old. Talked for a few minutes. She wanted 70 k but I hadn't recouped from previous sessions. Told her later but she disappear. Sat back enjoyed the scenary and post up for the night.

[Woodman09]

Went tonight, really Hot SG action (Venezolanas). Also some clubs with hot girls. Some clubs / hotels are closed because of liquor or other violations. I have read this is only temporary.

Apparently the raid picked up a lot of Venezuelan gang members and so it should be safer. Have Fun!

[SilverStackr1]

Arrived in Bogota yesterday. I came to Bogota to check out Santa Fe. Got settled at the hotel and had an Uber take me to Santa Fe around 1:00 AM. Police were everywhere. Not very many girls but they were there. Taxi driver repeated that it was dangerous. Taxi driver pulled up next to the police. The police told me that the area was not for someone like me. I'm white w / blue eyes & limited Spanish.

I've been to Tijuana, Pattaya, Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Medellin etc. I've walked Pattaya beach road and Tijuana late at night and easily handled any problems but this seemed a bit different.

Any way to save this trip? Should I just give up and book to Medellin for a few days?

[Pokeris]

Old Sala de massage calle 57#9-35 seems this this place is change name to Rosquvillas and interior inside. Yesterday around 7. 30 pm I walk in. Its looks like a strip bar have tables for sitting, selling drinks, have dance pole, some girls was dancing. They show me 8-9 girls 2 of them was beautiful. I take 19 years old venezuelian girl her name carollina she was fine at bed but want extra for BBBJ also to take her bra off (it makes me laugh). The rooms is fine here also nothing special but clean. I pay 50 mil for 30 minutes and they said 1 hour is 100 mil. I was sure I get overcharged so next day I text them on whatsapp and find out real prices: 20 min-25 mil 30 min-35 mil 1 hour-70 mil. Also they send me cctv cameras pic from club on whatsapp. After sex I went to the bar order beer is reasonable price also corona was 8 mil I think. I bought the drink for the same girl I fucked before and we have some laugh. She give me her whatsapp, facebook, allowed touch her boobs and ass she show me much better attitude than at bed. This place is open everyday from 9 am till 3 am. I will add their business card. I defenitely recommended this place. I have few more beers here and was waiting other ISG member puntingGeorge he arrived we sit little bit more and went to santa fe after.

[Pokeris]

Arrived with PuntingGeorge around 9 Pm last night its was girls on the streets but not so great choice also many clubs was closed, like paisas, troya, California, venus. La cosona, fiebre, atunes was open and packed. We was hitting clubs and streets around I saw one cute face colombian street girl she want 30 mil for 20 minutes + 6 mil for room. I take her at short time motel but when she take off her clothes her body was looking bad damage from baby and hanging tits. Its kills my mood. I fucked her for a while but could cum. The waiters on the street next to the clubs was so annoying this time they following us everywhere almost try to push to the clubs when we walk inside they don't want we order beer next to the bar and interfere between bartender and us we tell just fuck off we can order drinks by ourself. Its happens before also from my previous visits, but this time was really bad and annoying. Later I take other girl at atunes club for 30 minutes 60 mil it was venezualian 19 years old with cute face she was good at bed and I manage to cum at time. After few minutes I heard knock at the door my time is finish. I take girls whatsapp and ask how much she want for all night she said 250 mil I offered 200 mil and she quickly agree. I told her we can meet next day. We spend 3 hours in total walking at clubs and streets it was poor selection compare with my previous visits. 12 am I take uber and comebck my hotel.

[Routard]

Arrived in Bogota yesterday. I came to Bogota to check out Santa Fe. Got settled at the hotel and had an Uber take me to Santa Fe around 1:00 AM. Police were everywhere. Not very many girls but they were there. Taxi driver repeated that it was dangerous. Taxi driver pulled up next to the police. The police told me that the area was not for someone like me. I'm white w / blue eyes & limited Spanish.

I've been to Tijuana, Pattaya, Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Medellin etc. I've walked Pattaya beach road and Tijuana late at night and easily handled any problems but this seemed a bit different.

Any way to save this trip? Should I just give up and book to Medellin for a few days?Santa Fe is just 10% of Bogota's mongering scene, the most famous but IMHO not the best one. Just check my FAQ http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1#post2241562 plenty of other options.

[Routard]

Galerias.

I walked around Santa Fe at 11 pm on Friday. Plenty of girls but none I would get hard for, they may be young but I don't find them fresh or cute. And the touts outside the clubs are like flies, many and persistent, but you can wave them off. If you want the most number of girls in the shortest time for the least money, this is where to come.

My limiting factor, however, is not money or time but leches, so I prefer quality to quantity. Here you have my recommendation for the other end of the spectrum, an establishment with five-star rooms and five-star service:

Nanxing Spa, Cra 24 #53-86, ring bell 201, opposite mall Galerias, 10 chicas, massages 60 min, 90 k with girl in uniform, 120 k in underwear with handjob, 170 k full sex, Mon-sat 8 am-10 pm, sun 10 am-7 pm, www.nanxingspa.com.co at nanxingspa, 3214851113.

The place is not new so I'm surprised it's not on the map. 170 k may seem like a lot, but I think it's good value for what you're getting. Apparently some Japanese customers like to take three girl for an hour in the hot tub. 3 x170 k = 510 k is still good value for the level of service, I guess. Put it on the expense account.

Nearby is a place I reported a while back as Akira. The correct name is Adhara. Maybe four-star to Nanxing's five.

Adhara Spa, Carrera 24 #52-68 (near mall Galerias), white door, ring bell 301.10 Chicas. Prices: from 60 k, Massage+FS, 150 k hour. Tel: +Whatsapp 322 371 2050. Hours: Monday to Saturday 9 am to 9 pm, Sunday 9 am to 6 pm, 3223712050 3194100196.

In the same area is this place, but I wouldn't give it any stars.

Atraction Spa, Carrera 21 #53-35, massage 50 k 120 k 150 k, every day 9 am-9 pm, 3125755537.

And this casa is also not on the map. Nothing special here:

Galerias casa, Calle 51 #22-48 golden door, 4 ch, 60 k 20 min, 80 k 30 min, 120 k 1 h, 130 k trio, 3138928283.

And I found this info for a place vaguely near the airport. Haven't been there.

Ram Sex Spa, Barrio Castilla Calle 9 #78-16,60 k 30 min, 80 k 60 min, 3195069322.Excellent report! Great when explorers report undiscovered place. Nanxing Spa especially is a hidden gem. How did you find this place?

[Woodman09]

Arrived in Bogota yesterday. I came to Bogota to check out Santa Fe. Got settled at the hotel and had an Uber take me to Santa Fe around 1:00 AM. Police were everywhere. Not very many girls but they were there. Taxi driver repeated that it was dangerous. Taxi driver pulled up next to the police. The police told me that the area was not for someone like me. I'm white w / blue eyes & limited Spanish.

I've been to Tijuana, Pattaya, Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Medellin etc. I've walked Pattaya beach road and Tijuana late at night and easily handled any problems but this seemed a bit different.

Any way to save this trip? Should I just give up and book to Medellin for a few days?Plenty of white guys (Colombian and gringos) enjoy Santa Fe. You should not have let them scare you. But next time go earlier prime time is 8 pm to 1 a.

[Eszpresszo]

Woodman, say it an't so!

Wow this is bad and sad news, what is going on?

The Tall Man.The police are deporting girls, according to the report. That should be self-explanatory. Police routinely do that all around the world, in Germany and SE Asia, as well. Foreigners are generally excluded from legal or tolerated prostitution activities in many places. I wouldn't be surprised if the local girls were complaining to the police about the unwanted competition.

[ColBoxer]

Arrived in Bogota yesterday. I came to Bogota to check out Santa Fe. Got settled at the hotel and had an Uber take me to Santa Fe around 1:00 AM. Police were everywhere. Not very many girls but they were there. Taxi driver repeated that it was dangerous. Taxi driver pulled up next to the police. The police told me that the area was not for someone like me. I'm white w / blue eyes & limited Spanish.

I've been to Tijuana, Pattaya, Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Medellin etc. I've walked Pattaya beach road and Tijuana late at night and easily handled any problems but this seemed a bit different.

Any way to save this trip? Should I just give up and book to Medellin for a few days?If I was you I would fly to Medellin ASAP, I can show you around if you want. Colombian 31 year old guy willing to show you the scene here.

[Arcangel]

Excellent report! Great when explorers report undiscovered place. Nanxing Spa especially is a hidden gem. How did you find this place?Co. mileroticos.com.

Most casas, spas, massage places in Colombia advertise there.

Independents, too, but they are hit and miss. I've had some excellent and some awful experience with independents. Girls who get thrown out of casas for bad behaviour work as independents, and cool diamonds do, too. I never do "a domicilio", I always go to her place. , then I can leave quickly if I get a bad feeling about her. Also, I have more control over time, not having to wait for her to show up. Saves money, too, domicilio costs more and I pay for taxis either way. And finally, she cannot rob me and disappear, I could in theory take the police to her place.

[Arcangel]

Police surrounded SF tonight Closed the streets and shut down all clubs accept Fiebre, just a few girls on the street. I was told they detained 140 girls and are deporting them.International news media reports, no doubt based on a press release by Bogota authorities, that 40 venezuelan girls were rescued from sexual slavery and that 144 people were detained "to help with inquiries".

https://www.9news.com.au/2018/11/23/10/54/dozens-rescued-from-sexual-slavery-ring

I went to SantaFe that night with SunnyBoyPerth. I enjoyed the peace and quiet and felt safe because of all the police. But not much to do, so we went to Chapinero and had a fun time at Divas Club Calle 61 #13-79. Much better vibe than in SantaFe clubs.

[Tool Shedd]

What's the best strategy for getting rid of them, just ignore them? How do they react to being told to get lost, in Spanish of course! (No me molestes hombre, for example). Can't you just go straight to the bar in a club there, I certainly wouldn't want some guy I don't know sitting at my table, ordering me beers, I can do that myself!In my travels in Mexico (which I understand is way different from Colombia) I learned a hand sign that probably is universal in Latin America. Simply walk away and avoid eye contact while waggling your index finger back and forth, pointed up. This was very effective for me when I learned it. Anyone seen it used anywhere else in Latin America?

Pretty much a sign to leave you alone because you won't even consider what is being offered. May work with polite or normal hawkers, maybe totally ignored by the persistently obnoxious touts you described in your post. Worth a try.

Tool Shedd.

[Eszpresszo]

Any way to save this trip? Should I just give up and book to Medellin for a few days?Ummm. There are still three other red light districts in Bogota. Santa Fe is the only place with a lot of girls out on the streets. The other three areas are known for clubs and "casas" and are a bit more low key.

Try reading the Bogota FAQ thread and see Routard's recent update from Oct 28. Look at World Travel 69's maps under the Bogota Lists thread. Unless there are also under pressure by the police, then you still have more pussy than you could shake a stick at in a year. No need to catch a plane to anywhere.

[Pokeris]

Visited many places today with PuntingGeorge seems this one wasnt on map Sirenita Calle 67 #15-42 they open 7 days per week it has bar inside and not so bad looking place we visited it on Sunday so they have 3 girls. I take one black venezualian girl she have great attitude and fucks well 30 min-32 mil they advertising price on the wall. Room also was fine. I ask girl how many girls they have on weekdays she told me 10-15 sometimes. I will add business card of this place also price list.

[Pokeris]

Visited santa fe with other ISG member between 2 pm and 4 pm it was much better with street girls action when yesterday night. I saw at least 10 beautiful girls I would like to fu. Ck. Take 2 beautiful venezualians one 20 years old 35 mil-20 min in total and other 22 years old 40 mil-30 min (I was suprised its was just 40 mil in total for 30 min) both girls was great allowed some photos, shared facebooks and whatsapps. Many clubs was closed like yesterday but some open, this time we was more concentrate on street girls action than clubs. Have a great time much better than last night.

[Pokeris]

Visited this place at 10.30 pm it was Sunday so every massage place have just 2-3 average looking girls. Most of massage places asking 80 mil-30 min and 100 mil-1 hour. The last massage shop I think it was number 14 have 4 girls they was with average look. I pay 100 mil for 1 hour. The girl was colombiana from Cali she done some massage and we fu, cked till I cum after done some massage again. The room is small here just with massage table but have fan and its clean. Will add pic of the room and price list from some massage shop at mezzanine.

24 hours at Bogota was well spend with 7 diffrent chicas.have a great time!!

[Ty Down]

Visited santa fe with other ISG member between 2 pm and 4 pm it was much better with street girls action when yesterday night. I saw at least 10 beautiful girls I would like to fu. Ck. Take 2 beautiful venezualians one 20 years old 35 mil-20 min in total and other 22 years old 40 mil-30 min (I was suprised its was just 40 mil in total for 30 min) both girls was great allowed some photos, shared facebooks and whatsapps. Many clubs was closed like yesterday but some open, this time we was more concentrate on street girls action than clubs. Have a great time much better than last night.Does it look like La Habana Vieja?

[Pokeris]

Does it look like La Habana Vieja?
Much better🙂

[SilverStackr1]

Ummm. There are still three other red light districts in Bogota. Santa Fe is the only place with a lot of girls out on the streets. The other three areas are known for clubs and "casas" and are a bit more low key.

Try reading the Bogota FAQ thread and see Routard's recent update from Oct 28. Look at World Travel 69's maps under the Bogota Lists thread. Unless there are also under pressure by the police, then you still have more pussy than you could shake a stick at in a year. No need to catch a plane to anywhere.I did read up on Routard's update and have World travel 69's maps on my phone now. Vacation saved with just a bit more research. I had focused totally on Santa Fe before my visit.

It was my first time here and at least to me this looked bad. You are all correct. There is plenty of action to be had within a $2-5 $ uber / taxi trip anywhere in the city.

[SilverStackr1]

Santa Fe is just 10% of Bogota's mongering scene, the most famous but IMHO not the best one. Just check my FAQ http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1#post2241562 plenty of other options.Thank you. Great Report. Vacation saved. I had only focused on Santa Fe before my trip. Thanks to your report I have begun discovering a lot of other options.

[SX Lover]

I was there (Calle 71 #14 A-24) just now. Both places are closed. A guy on the street told me that police shut down Chicas Milenio because they put up signs outside. It's only allowed as long as it's discrete. He said Chicas 2000 should be open again on Monday.

And he gave me a paper with an address and said the girls are there. Calle 67 #23-24 piso 3. This place is not on the map yet.Is this place open now or closed for good?

[SilverStackr1]

Is this place open now or closed for good?I went to the address on the map and a guy was there waiting. He asked if I was looking for Chicas Millenial. We walked me to midpoint on Carrera 17 in between Calle 71 and Calle 70 a. On google maps there is Rua bakery and a Toy store very close. There was a guy standing outside.

[DWorldTravel69]

This was a new place on the list and appeared to have a great selection of girls so I stopped by Monday evening.

The place is clean and all the available chicas introduce themselves and they were as listed on their website.

There were 2 girls I liked and had a session with one of them. They girl spoke basic English and was able to communicate without a translator app.

I checked out 2 rooms and they both had humidifier with essential oil running which was pleasant.

After selecting a girl, she will explain the pricing and tell you about the type of massage that she can offer. Well don't bother. It was a light rub and wouldn't even consider it massage.

The session was just OK. I won't be returning to this one.

[World Travel 69]

You might want to see this, before you go.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80133153

[LandedFlush]

Went. At like 11 PM on Monday there were 4 girls only, the place looked pretty dead. I chose one and paid 50 k for 20 minutes.

She took me to like literally the smallest room I've ever seen. There was a literally blood or shit-stained bed there and absolutely no place to put your clothes except the dirty floor. I noticed a half-used packet of coke on the floor. I decided to go with the flow and use the half of the bed that wasn't stained by biohazards. I'm starting to think I will in a garbage can if I have to. The girl seem kind of out of it. Maybe high, maybe shy, maybe both. She didn't seem to know what she was doing. Like she gave me the condom to put it on myself. That's not how you do it.

Then she refused to give me a BJ. I asked her why and she just kept refusing. So whatever, I put her on the bed and I fucked her while I was standing.

Overall, nasty ass place, and the dude in charge of the room had the balls to ask me for propina before I even entered the room. Wow. Couldn't wait to get the fuck out of there.

Pussy House is just a bit of a ripoff (they try to fuck you on the drinks) but it's 1000 x times better.

Avoid.

[LandedFlush]

Probably my favorite place in Bogota. It's pretty low key. No strip show. You come in, they put you into a room. And then they show you the girls available. Once you pick the girl she will sit with you. Drink prices are OK. Like 4 K for Poker beer. 50 K for half a bottle of rum. Girls are not supermodels but are pretty and most have good attitudes and seem like easygoing, good people.

The girl who runs it is OK. Good person but she does apply a ton of pressure on you to keep drinking. Like dropping in pretty often to ask you to drink something more. So you got to be able to deal with that.

40 K for 20 minutes. The rooms are fairly clean and spacious.

[Woodman09]

I went to have a Street burrito in SF last night, there is a Mexican style Taco / Burrito stand in SF. You will see it right across from Troya, It is Awesome run by Venezolanos Double meat $12000 ($4) on the way out I got a little excited by all the Hottness in the street. I only had $27000 and talked a Cute 23 yo Jewish looking Venezuelan into a quick session. You too can get good pussy in SF for $9!

[MjTravelLove]

Probably my favorite place in Bogota. It's pretty low key. No strip show. You come in, they put you into a room. And then they show you the girls available. Once you pick the girl she will sit with you. Drink prices are OK. Like 4 K for Poker beer. 50 K for half a bottle of rum. Girls are not supermodels but are pretty and most have good attitudes and seem like easygoing, good people.

The girl who runs it is OK. Good person but she does apply a ton of pressure on you to keep drinking. Like dropping in pretty often to ask you to drink something more. So you got to be able to deal with that.

40 K for 20 minutes. The rooms are fairly clean and spacious.Thanks for this tip. Any more info on how to find and identify this place? Best hours? Any other contact info?

Thanks in advance mate. Will report back if I can locate it.

MjT.

[Turgid]

Went. At like 11 PM on Monday there were 4 girls only, the place looked pretty dead. I chose one and paid 50 k for 20 minutes.

She took me to like literally the smallest room I've ever seen. There was a literally blood or shit-stained bed there and absolutely no place to put your clothes except the dirty floor. I noticed a half-used packet of coke on the floor. I decided to go with the flow and use the half of the bed that wasn't stained by biohazards. I'm starting to think I will in a garbage can if I have to. The girl seem kind of out of it. Maybe high, maybe shy, maybe both. She didn't seem to know what she was doing. Like she gave me the condom to put it on myself. That's not how you do it.

Then she refused to give me a BJ. I asked her why and she just kept refusing. So whatever, I put her on the bed and I fucked her while I was standing.

Overall, nasty ass place, and the dude in charge of the room had the balls to ask me for propina before I even entered the room. Wow. Couldn't wait to get the fuck out of there.

Pussy House is just a bit of a ripoff (they try to fuck you on the drinks) but it's 1000 x times better.

Avoid.No BJ is a huge bummer and worth aborting the session. Nevertheless, when in an unsanitary room my modus operandi is to just pull my pants down and have the girl on her knees blow me. Then she gets on the bed and I screw her while standing with my pants around my knees. I allow her to assume different positions while on the bed.

[LandedFlush]

Thanks for this tip. Any more info on how to find and identify this place? Best hours? Any other contact info?

Thanks in advance mate. Will report back if I can locate it.

MjT.Not sure I understand the question. I put the address and the name in the title of my post: Salome Calle 64 #13-88 Not hard to find. Any taxi / Uber will find it.

Best hours are Th / Fri / Sat nights of course. The place closes at 3 AM usually.

[LandedFlush]

No BJ is a huge bummer and worth aborting the session. Nevertheless, when in an unsanitary room my modus operandi is to just pull my pants down and have the girl on her knees blow me. Then she gets on the bed and I screw her while standing with my pants around my knees. I allow her to assume different positions while on the bed.But I already paid. Would you just walk out and fuck the money or you'd ask for a refund?

[World Travel 69]

Salome
Calle 64 # 13-88. 10 Chicas. Prices: 40k 20 min., 50k 30 min., 60k hour. Tel: ________. Hours: Monday to Saturday 1 pm to 3 am.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.65096977609279%2C-74.08243614865916&z=15


Thanks for this tip. Any more info on how to find and identify this place? Best hours? Any other contact info?

Thanks in advance mate. Will report back if I can locate it.

MjT.

[Turgid]

But I already paid. Would you just walk out and fuck the money or you'd ask for a refund?Paying after improves your chances of getting BJ. If you pay first and she refuses then you beg pretty please or pout and make the most of a bad situation.

[PennyPincher]

I was there (Calle 71 #14 A-24) just now. Both places are closed. A guy on the street told me that police shut down Chicas Milenio because they put up signs outside. It's only allowed as long as it's discrete. He said Chicas 2000 should be open again on Monday.

And he gave me a paper with an address and said the girls are there. Calle 67 #23-24 piso 3. This place is not on the map yet.I walked by three weeks ago, looking for Chicas Milenio. Across the street a guy told me that the place had closed and the police were harassing them. He told me to get in his car to go for some chicas around the way. I immediately refused and walked away as fast as I could. I thought he was lying and was being set up for robbery. A few days later I came back, and there was a guy out in front passing out flyers. He also reported that the Milenio had closed and there was a new location (same address as above). It turns out that the first 'get in the car guy' was legit. (Still I won't get in a car with unknown in that way.) So, I did go to the new place. About 6 girls lined up. A few very doable. Picked one, a girl who had just started. She was a bit shy, but warmed up in the end. Room was large, but dirty. Overall, decent. I don't know if Milenio has re-opened.

[ArmnHammer69]

Recently heard about the raids wondering what Santa Fe is currently like and if anyone can share some input on what it will be like around the holidays or if most will be closed? I loved paisas and la fiebre I was in heaven. Strip clubs open New Years?

[PennyPincher]

I walked by three weeks ago, looking for Chicas Milenio. Across the street a guy told me that the place had closed and the police were harassing them. He told me to get in his car to go for some chicas around the way. I immediately refused and walked away as fast as I could. I thought he was lying and was being set up for robbery. A few days later I came back, and there was a guy out in front passing out flyers. He also reported that the Milenio had closed and there was a new location (same address as above). It turns out that the first 'get in the car guy' was legit. (Still I won't get in a car with unknown in that way.) So, I did go to the new place. About 6 girls lined up. A few very doable. Picked one, a girl who had just started. She was a bit shy, but warmed up in the end. Room was large, but dirty. Overall, decent. I don't know if Milenio has re-opened.Just to correct, the place the guy directed to me was not on CL 67, but just a few blocks west of Milenio, right along CL 71th, but made a left on a north-south street. It must have been very close to Tantra Spa 72, Cra 20 a #72-30 (but it was not Tantra Spa).

[Woodman09]

Recently heard about the raids wondering what Santa Fe is currently like and if anyone can share some input on what it will be like around the holidays or if most will be closed? I loved paisas and la fiebre I was in heaven. Strip clubs open New Years?Santa Fe is Better since raid, they just rounded up the gang element. All of the clubs are opened.

Things should be good during some days of your dates. There are many Venezuelans living there so they will be around. Not sure about New Years.

[World Travel 69]

It looks like a new place the area:

Carrera 10 a # 67-49. __ Masajitas. Prices: _ Tel: +57 (1) 541 09 93, +57 3057100279. Hours: Monday to Friday 6:00 am to 8:00 pm. , Saturday 8:00 am to 2:00 pm. https://dollhousespa.com.co/.

[World Travel 69]

Carrera 17 at Calle 71 bis. There should be a guy standing in front of the place. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: _ Please fill in the blanks.


Just to correct, the place the guy directed to me was not on CL 67, but just a few blocks west of Milenio, right along CL 71th, but made a left on a north-south street. It must have been very close to Tantra Spa 72, Cra 20 a #72-30 (but it was not Tantra Spa).

[PennyPincher]

Carrera 17 at Calle 71 bis. There should be a guy standing in front of the place. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: _ Please fill in the blanks.After consulting the Chapinero map, the place was Ron con Piernas, Carrera 17 # 70 a-68. I remember asking the girl what the name of that place was, she said a name that sounded weird, which turns out to be Ron Con Piernas.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=4.657151929827792%2C-74.06477029786492&hl=en&z=17&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA

[Eszpresszo]

I walked by three weeks ago, looking for Chicas Milenio. Across the street a guy told me that the place had closed and the police were harassing them. He told me to get in his car to go for some chicas around the way. I immediately refused and walked away as fast as I could. I thought he was lying and was being set up for robbery. A few days later I came back, and there was a guy out in front passing out flyers. He also reported that the Milenio had closed and there was a new location (same address as above). It turns out that the first 'get in the car guy' was legit. (Still I won't get in a car with unknown in that way.) So, I did go to the new place. About 6 girls lined up. A few very doable. Picked one, a girl who had just started. She was a bit shy, but warmed up in the end. Room was large, but dirty. Overall, decent. I don't know if Milenio has re-opened.Directly across the street from Chicas Milenio is Chicas 2000, a different operation run by a nice guy named William, who is always standing out front. I visited the place twice and he will always greet you when you walk by. Now, I doubt William would take a customer to a different brothel, so I wondering exactly where this person was standing. I have to wonder if William's operation was shut down, as well.

I visited both those places over Labor Day weekend, and I reported on both, with a less favorable review of Chicas Milenio. Perhaps there was some karma going around.

[Woodman09]

11 pm 12-13-18 Just got back from SF had a little snack, some street meat and don't mean I sessioned LOL!

But I wanted to. It was slow traffic wise but there were at least 30 SGs there that I would love Bone down on and I think most guys would too. I might wander back down later.

I have made a decision that this hotness must be documented. I must go to the next level. I will buy a good spy watch next month and will produce some videos for this period in history.

[JjBee62]

So I read Routard's post in his FAQ thread from 10/28. My thanks to him as the info was great. Wish I had more time in Bogota this trip!

I travel a lot for work (white boy from the states) and Bogota is a new destination for me, as is Colombia. I've mongered a ton all over the USA, once in San Jose Costa Rica, once in Santo Domingo the. Are. , and some in Europe, all on business trips. Decided it was time to register an account here. When I travel for work, I don't have a ton of free time, nor do I get to pick the hotel location, etc. Long story short, my window of opportunity this trip was very narrow, but I will probably be back soon, hopefully with more time.

This trip though, by the time I was free of work it was Tuesday night at 730 pm. I had to catch an early flight home, so I wanted to stay near my hotel on Calle 100 near Carrera 7. Using Routard's map that meant I had just missed the cluster of Spas he recommended as most close by 8 pm. Same went for Absolut Spa which was very close. So that left Loutron which was open till 10 pm and was only a 5 minute walk from the hotel. I realized from Routard's notes this was one of the overpriced options in Bogota, as it was a massage parlor, and apparently the most upscale one as well. But I didn't want to leave town without action, and overpriced action here is still cheap compared to the States. Still as a seasoned monger I hate overpaying. However, as a gringo who doesn't speak Spanish I knew the deck was stacked against me..Well, you should have put your report here, instead of the Bogota Lists thread.

No need to flame you. You spent your money and enjoyed yourself. You took what was available and made the best of it. One thing I would recommend. Take out more money than you need. If I'm expecting to spend 300 k, I'll get 500 k. It gives you options. It also saves you if an unplanned expense pops up. If you have money left over give it to niece's or nephews for a souvenir, or spend it at the airport. Or just put it in your suitcase for your next trip to Colombia.

[AppleNow]

Where's some good places to stay? Is air bnb okay.

[Routard]

Well, you should have put your report here, instead of the Bogota Lists thread.

No need to flame you. You spent your money and enjoyed yourself. You took what was available and made the best of it. One thing I would recommend. Take out more money than you need. If I'm expecting to spend 300 k, I'll get 500 k. It gives you options. It also saves you if an unplanned expense pops up. If you have money left over give it to niece's or nephews for a souvenir, or spend it at the airport. Or just put it in your suitcase for your next trip to Colombia.Or change it at the airport. There is a convenient Cambio office once in international zone.

[IrishA]

Thanks for the advice, the information on wikisex is also pretty useful. The info on the streets where the action is seems to be all over the place though, they contradict what's written on the lists here, but anyway.

Glad you got away from that guy OK who tried to mug you for your shades! How were you were looking, dressed down enough on the day? And what's the dress code to go to these clubs at night, surely a bit smarter? Is it safe to just jump in any taxi when leaving a club there at night, by nature I would be a bit dubious to do that.Jeans and t-shirt nothing fancy or you'll stick out like a sore thumb.

[Woodman09]

Where's some good places to stay? Is air bnb okay.Many really nice places for good prices.

[The Tall Man]

11 pm 12-13-18 Just got back from SF had a little snack, some street meat and don't mean I sessioned LOL!

But I wanted to. It was slow traffic wise but there were at least 30 SGs there that I would love Bone down on and I think most guys would too. I might wander back down later.

I have made a decision that this hotness must be documented. I must go to the next level. I will buy a good spy watch next month and will produce some videos for this period in history.Please please please video document the sights!

It was great to meet you in Sante Fe this past October. I am in Medellin now and planning a road trip down to Cali so I won't make it back to Bogota until after the New Year.

The Tall Man.

[LadiesManCo217]

Hi everyone,

I'm Just a Colombian (Bogota) guy who want to mix his two mayor hobbies which are visiting best brothels in town and practice English.

If you prefer to feel safe in Bogota going to crazy places like Santa Fe, we can catch up. I will give you my best suggestions of this kind of places in the city.

I'm Just doing this for fun, not for mone!

Contact me on whatsapp [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

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[Banb92]

Is there a drop off in terms of girl quality in between these two cities? Or just different in terms of what city has to offer?

Literally, spent few weeks reading about Medellin but Bogota is way more convenient due to the availability of direct flight from where I live.

Realized that Bogota isn't discuss much as Medellin so wasn't so sure why in desperate of being a capital city.

Please feel free to share any opinions you might have.It is the same advice that I am asking. I am visiting Colombia from 27 January to 10 February. Is Medellin mandatory? Is it not better to spend more time on Bogota for our hobby and et the remaining time for tourism? Indeed, I prefer to avoid more than one big city during my stay and visit Carthagena and Santa Marta.

Many thanks.

[Woodman09]

It is the same advice that I am asking. I am visiting Colombia from 27 January to 10 February. Is Medellin mandatory? Is it not better to spend more time on Bogota for our hobby and et the remaining time for tourism? Indeed, I prefer to avoid more than one big city during my stay and visit Carthagena and Santa Marta.

Many thanks.I know, I have spent time in both cities. Medellin cannot hold a candle to Bogota in terms of Quantity. The quality is the same. Bogota is the city that all the bad girls go to.

[Jalle]

I've been in Bogota now for a while and feel it's really a great city in all aspects! I will report my experiences in few different scenes during the coming days. To get started here are my experiences with seeking.com girls.

I paid the membership for three months mostly to prepare my Spanish and secondly to collect numbers before the trip. First goal was met easily since you always have someone willing to chat longer periods of time. The second was more tricky because the girls change a lot in short period of time. It doesn't really make sense to pay more than minimum subscription just before the trip. It's pretty easy to collect whatsapp numbers and then organise meeting. I got some invaluable intel from fellow member Butch145 via private messages. He did the same thing in Medellin what I now made in Bogota. So this procedure has been proved to be working in two cities.

To write it short:

1. pay SA subscription.

2. chat and get numbers.

3. organise meeting in whatsapp.

4. don't discuss money and invite the girls to your place.

5. after you're done be generous but not stupid, 150-200 k will do in both cities.

6. repeat starting from step no 2.

It's really this easy. Be prepared that some girls don't read SA or even whatsapp very regularly. It's better to keep few options on table at all times. I was also scared about the step 4 and afraid of having debates after the sessions. Thanks to advice by Butch145 I was brave enough to try it this way and it worked every single time. It pretty much goes like "cierra tus ojos" and put some money in her bag and say goodbye. Some professional girls probably want to discuss money upfront but real freelancers deal it differently. You will easily spot who is pro and who is not.

I will post few pics of SA girls once I get them resized.

[Jalle]

The amount of ass is really stunning in this city. They roam all over and looks like more girls than guys everywhere (disclaimer: haven't seen stats though). Getting numbers in Zona T nightlife is fairly easy. I tried few different disco bars with tropical music as they call it here. Cannot remember the names but all places with dancing are good for this.

Procedure:

1. Go to bar with some dancing on Thu-Sat around 9 pm-1 am.

2. Get a beer and lean a wall.

3. Don't be shy having eye contact and wait the girls to come to speak you (or go yourself if brave).

4. Change the whatsapp numbers and organise a date for the next day.

The difficult part is that some girls are obviously non-pro and some semi-pro. Discussing money is again a bad idea at least upfront. At the moment I have many numbers but no completed dates so I have no real advice on this. Maybe the best approach is similar to what I explained in previous post. Just call it shopping money and the non-pros don't freak out.

Seems like most nightlife is from Thu-Sat with the exception of Gringo Tuesdays. Be sure to visit there if your Spanish sucks. Everyone wants to practice their English. During the language exchange part it's fairly easy to get numbers "to show you around city" or "practice their english more next day". I got two numbers of real 9-10 stunners but they appeared to be dead-ends with serious boyfriends. After the language part it's just another disco party with loads of girls. I didn't stay very late but it seemed like the good girls go home early and get replaced by semi-pro types. By good girls I mean that some drank just water and had even their english teacher with them or something like that. This party is probably even easier playground than the weekend rumbas I explained above.

I know many of you have different opinions and tactics regarding non-pro game. I tried to explain how it worked for a first-timer who doesn't know anyone in the city and obviously looks like a gringo.

[Eszpresszo]

Is Medellin mandatory?
Many thanks.Nothing is mandatory. I personally prefer Bogota over Medellin, but some have an issue with altitude sickness.

[Mr Enternational]

The difficult part is that some girls are obviously non-pro and some semi-pro. Discussing money is again a bad idea at least upfront. At the moment I have many numbers but no completed dates so I have no real advice on this. Maybe the best approach is similar to what I explained in previous post. Just call it shopping money and the non-pros don't freak out.Are you that deep in the game? Why are you searching for ways to pay chicks that are not hookers? If the chick is a hooker, then the onus is on her to let you know she is doing it for money. It is not your responsibility to guess who is who or just pay everyone because you do not know.

[The Tall Man]

I got two numbers of real 9-10 stunners but they appeared to be dead-ends with serious boyfriends. After the language part it's just another disco party with loads of girls..There is a very blurred line in Colombia, weather it be in Bogota or Medellin or another location, between paid escorts (ie prepagos) and non-escorts but who have or are in very serious relationships yet will earn some side money with a gringo, and know that the majority of the time the boyfriend knows and even allows their girl friend to go out and have sex for money.

There are very different rules they play by in Colombia, I do not judge as I enjoy the benefits of this way of life. I have 2 very special paisa chicas here in Medellin and working on others, BOTH have serious relationships, they are not a prepago per se but I pay them for their company. I know for certain that both have serious relationships with their respective boyfriends but they also enjoy the money (especially at Christmas time) and fun times.

This is the norm or should say the way of life here in Colombia. An attractive chica will have her boyfriend to go dancing with, a lover or two who give them dick, and a sponsor type guy (like me the gringo) who helps them with economics.

Of course not all Colombian women are this way but the vast majority are, I would suggest that 75% or more have earned money at some point in their life or are willing to consider it.

So the point of this is that there are no dead-ends in Colombia, yes even stunners, just takes time and effort and a bit of spanish and some good flirting and you will be shocked at what happens.

Just my two pesos!

The Tall Man.

[Mr Enternational]

There is a very blurred line in Colombia, weather it be in Bogota or Medellin or another location, between paid escorts (ie prepagos) and non-escorts but who have or are in very serious relationships yet will earn some side money with a gringo, and know that the majority of the time the boyfriend knows and even allows their girl friend to go out and have sex for money.

Of course not all Colombian women are this way but the vast majority are, I would suggest that 75% or more have earned money at some point in their life or are willing to consider it.Spreading a message like this is bound to get someone fucked up if they actually believe it.

[Jalle]

Are you that deep in the game? Why are you searching for ways to pay chicks that are not hookers? If the chick is a hooker, then the onus is on her to let you know she is doing it for money. It is not your responsibility to guess who is who or just pay everyone because you do not know.

You are absolutely right. Still learning how things work here. I have probably spent too much time in Africa where everyone expects money in the morning.

[Jalle]

There is a very blurred line in Colombia, weather it be in Bogota or Medellin or another location, between paid escorts (ie prepagos) and non-escorts but who have or are in very serious relationships yet will earn some side money with a gringo, and know that the majority of the time the boyfriend knows and even allows their girl friend to go out and have sex for money.

There are very different rules they play by in Colombia, I do not judge as I enjoy the benefits of this way of life. I have 2 very special paisa chicas here in Medellin and working on others, BOTH have serious relationships, they are not a prepago per se but I pay them for their company. I know for certain that both have serious relationships with their respective boyfriends but they also enjoy the money (especially at Christmas time) and fun times.

This is the norm or should say the way of life here in Colombia. An attractive chica will have her boyfriend to go dancing with, a lover or two who give them dick, and a sponsor type guy (like me the gringo) who helps them with economics.

Of course not all Colombian women are this way but the vast majority are, I would suggest that 75% or more have earned money at some point in their life or are willing to consider it.

So the point of this is that there are no dead-ends in Colombia, yes even stunners, just takes time and effort and a bit of spanish and some good flirting and you will be shocked at what happens.

Just my two pesos!

The Tall Man.Thanks for sharing a good point. In my case I have collected so far around 15 numbers and 2 of those have told about boyfriends. IMO it doesn't really make sense to spend time on the most difficult ones while 10+ others are waiting in line. I should have written that they are dead-ends for someone like me with very limited time in Bogota. Maybe in case I had several months here it would be rewarding. As you mentioned it's question of time and game.

I agree that probably it's possible to score any girl finally. I got even Christmas dinner invitation from one of these "dead-end girls" which is probably a sign of something. Her boyfriend is attending too.

[El Moreno 92]

This is a late report. I spent five days (Fri Nov 9 to Tue Nov 13) Bogota. My Bogota experience was outstanding. I have been to Medellin three times and had no complaints about this Bogota trip.

Day 1.

Copa Airlines flight from the states to Panama City (Tocumen) and my connecting flight to Bogota (El Dorado) all were smooth, on-time and put me in Bogota at 9:30 am. I cleared immigration smoothly and quickly. I only use carry-on luggage so straight to go meet my ride. My prearranged driver was there on time and I arrived at the rental loft (via AirBnb nice 18th floor unit with a balcony and an amazing view of Bogota) at 10:30 am located at Carrera 13 & Calle 28. Traffic was not as bad as I expected for this city of 10+ million people. They let me check in early. Again, the unit was nice and it had a safe in which I immediately put my stuff.

I met up with the cousin of a coworker, who took me on a walking tour of La Candeleria, El Chorro de Quevedo, Plaza de Bolivar and the area around Torre Colpatria. While doing that, I attempted to set up some "citas" with some chicas via whatsapp for later. One thing that surprised me was Bogota was extremely safe. I would find that out throughout my stay. I spent a lot of time walking and had no issues. During that walk, I would see some fine chicas going about their daily life, I guess. I went to a small mom and pop type spot to eat while we were out.

At night, one Tinder app FL chica came through around 10 pm. She was a morena from Bogota (22 years old) with a cute face, pretty light brown skin, shoulder length hair, nice legs and barely spoke English. No problem. We conversed in Espaol. I gave her the nickname of "Morena. " Negotiated 280 mil pesos for TLN (down from her 350 mil request). We drank beer (Club Colombia), danced to music. She kept her promise and gave me a wonderful BBBJ that ended in an explosive CIM. RELIEF! We showered together. I got hard in the shower. She BBBJ'ed me in the shower. We left the shower, dried off, put on a rubber and I finished banging her on the sofa. Shot another load. We cleaned up. Drank some more beer. Talked and eventually went to sleep.

Day 2.

I had morning wood. Morena took care of that for me. While I laid in the bed, she worked the rocket with a good BBBJ and of course, I exploded in her boca. NICE! That felt extremely satisfying. She cleaned herself up, took a shower and left. I went to the gym in the building. Nice burn. I returned to the loft, showered up and hit Archie's (near Museo Nacional) for breakfast. Nice breakfast. I walked around a bit and did the tourist thing. I went to the park near the Planetarium, then walked back to the loft. Took a long nap (longer than I wanted too). I arranged a "cita" with another Tinder FL chica. She came over later.

Angelica came over. She was a light-skinned 23 year old spinner from Bogota. She had blond hair, face okay and surprisingly nice sized tetas on her small body. She wanted 130 mil for one hour. No problem. I played with her tetas and got hard. I put my rocket between her tetas. Nice. Condon on. Then she rode me on the floor. "On all fours" next. Pounded her from behind until a shot my load. Not bad. She cleaned up and left. I headed up to Zona T later in the night.

Uber from my loft to Zona T. I walked around. Lots of people were out. I went to the Hooters. A college FB game was on. Hooter waitress, pretty everything and a body from heaven, was asking what I wanted to drink, but I was staring at her body. OOPS. Sorry. I had some wings and BBC cerveza. We talk. She told me how she does not like her president. I said, "Tenemos algo en comun con eso. " She laughed. Wings were great as usual. I did not like the BBC Beer. Club Colombia was much better. I paid. She told me to come back tomorrow for Futbol Americano games. I told her I would definitely if she is working. She says she is. I told her that I will be back.

A dude approached me and told me his club had the chicas. I asked him where. He pulled out a small flyer with "Olimpia"(I might have spelled it wrong) on it. He said he will take me there. I just said F it in my mind and followed him, but kept my wits about me. We got there, I was searched and went in. WOW. Nothing but 8's and up here. I know this place was expensive. Seemed to be high class. Chica with a nice body, super hot face and HUGE tetas walked past me and looked. I motioned her to sit down with me. My rocket woke up again. We talked. She is 27. I ask her how much to come back to my loft in El Centro for the night. She said 500 mil pesos. Que? She "came down" to 450 mil but would not go lower. Rocket went down. Nice to meet you, I am leaving now. I paid for the beers I bought and tipped the guy. I took Uber back down to the loft in El Centro and called it a night.

Day 3.

Woke up. Hit the gym again. Hit Archie's again for breakfast (I love their breakfast). I did some more touristy stuff. I went to the Museo del Oro and was in awe at the exhibits. I went back to the Plaza de Bolivar and hung out there for a while. I took a lot of pics and mingled with some backpackers. Time flew. I decided to hit Santa Fe later. Later came fast. Sun down. Let me see what Santa Fe was about.

Went back to the Loft to shower and change clothes so as not to look like an obvious tourist. Just some jeans, a black t-shirt and some converse. Took Uber to Santa Fe. The scenery definitely changed as we approached Santa Fe. Lots and lots of people out. Working girls. People selling stuff. Lots of folks walking around, hanging out here and there. Lots of police, seemingly at each corner. I was cool with it. Uber let me off at 16 a (would not drive up the street due to police). A dude approached me. I asked him where was Atunes. He says it is closed and pointed to the door where it was. I tried the door and it was locked. He said come to Paisas. Cool. I followed him to the spot. Nice. Chicas, seemingly much younger than the expensive spot up north from the previous night.

I sat down. I waved at a nice looking spinner. She comes over. She was 21 year old Venezolana. Super cute face, nice petite body, but had a nice a** and some funbags imprinted under her shirt. Her name was Ana. Said she had a kid back in Venezuela. We talked, drank beer and danced. She got me hard and it showed through my jeans. She laughed. I cut to the chase, kissed her and told her I wanted FS with her. She pointed upstairs and said "70 mil for media hora. " ($21 bucks?) For real? Wow. Let's go. I closed my tab, we went upstairs to a receptionist. Got one of the rooms. A small one with purple background / lighting. I cleaned up quick and so did she (in a hurry). She put the condom on with her mouth. WOW! I pounded her in the missionary and on all fours. She was a screamer. She made me shoot my load just before the knock at the door. Wow. The first time I banged someone in a casa (I had BJs only, in BJ bars in BKK and Pattaya before, no FS). Cleaned up. Gave her 20 mil tip. She gave me her WhatsApp (In my Colombian phone) and I left. I hopped in cab in front of Paisas and went back to the loft.

Back at loft thinking how I banged a nice Venezolana spinner for just over 20 bucks. WOW. I said I am going back later. A couple of hours later, I did just that. I took Uber back to the spot where the last Uber let me off at. Santa Fe was packed full people and the police. All I was thinking about was chica pussy. I used the sidewalk and jogged to Paisas, avoiding the "helpers who wanted tips. " Guys near the door remembered me from earlier. I go in. Get seated. I messaged Ana. No response. I did not see her. Ana was ya se fue. No problem. I saw a slim, light-skinned chica with long hair, cute fair and nice legs. She had on a skirt. WOW. I got hard looking at her. She looked at me. I waved. She came over. She was a 21-year old from Venezuela (lots of Venezolanas apparently). We had a couple of beers. I asked her to go upstairs with me. She quoted about the same 70 mil for 30 minutes. We walked upstairs. Did the preliminaries and got to one of the rooms. She stripped naked. NICE. Condon on. I started from the rear on her. Nice snatch. Flipped her over, she wrapped her long legs around me and kept pulling me into her like a machine. A shot off in less than 20 minutes. Wow. Nice. We cleaned up. I tipped her about 20 mil pesos. I kissed her, walked downstairs, hopped in a cab in front and went back to the loft. What a night.

Day 4.

I woke up with Santa Fe definitely on my mind. I went to Cerro Monserrate early to beat the crowds since the day was a Colombian holiday. I took the funicular to the top. Nice view. Wow. Finally another landmark crossed off of the bucket list. Went back down, went to Archie's again and saw the Ciclovia. A cool thing the country does for its bicyclists. Morena, the CIM queen sends me a message asking if I need company. I told her maybe later. The day passed by quickly as I spent most of the time chilling on the balcony and mentally preparing myself to return to the USA and the grind. Late afternoon came and I made my way to Santa Fe. I got out at 16 a like normal. Atunes was closed again. Oh crap! What the deal with this place? And Paisas had not opened yet.

I walked around to Nightclub California but stopped and turned around. This zona was looking sketchy as F in the daylight. One dude approached me and told me to be careful around there. I said, "Dios es mi guia. " he laughed. He was trying to sell me on a spot and I forgot the name. I walked back to 16 a and saw "Casona. " I walked in there. Bar to my left. Dancer's floor in the middle with tables / chairs on either side. Some nice chicas were in there. Then immediately I saw a spinner, who I guessed was a Venezolana. I guessed right. I waved her over to my table. She was very petite, decent looking face, had braces and her name was Yerni. Me and Yerni talked for a bit and drank some Ron Medellin and coke. I saw a girl that looked like her sitting up front. Yerni's twin sister. Wow. I tell Yerni to tell her sister to come over. Sister comes. We all drank together. I know this is setup for a threesome (Yerni even asked me if I wanted them both). I just wanted Yerni (don't be mad at me guys). Nevertheless, I have a hard on that just won't quit now. I had to bang Yerni and I wanted to take her back to the loft. I pulled her out for 180 mil. She kissed her sister goodbye, we hopped in the cab outside and hit the loft.

Me and Yerni arrived at the loft. She wanted some more beer (this petite thing can drink). She killed my last two Club Colombias and she finally took her clothes off. She unzipped my pants and I am thinking BBBJ. No. She stopped and asked for a condom. "Para chupar?" Yes. No. I never ever want a covered BJ. But I put on the condom. I sat her on the bar stool and banged her there. We moved to the floor, the bed and I wanted to do her on the balcony but did not. She was a almost a starfish, but a screamer (I love the screaming spinners). She ended up taking off the condom, BBBJ'ed me and I gleefully CIM'ed. Nice. She told me that she wanted to get a tattoo and asked me could I "gift" her 80 mil for it. She then asked for some dinero so she and her sister could go back to Venezuela. I tipped her 25 mil pesos and told her I would see her later. I got my nut off and her begging was getting on my nerves. She left. I laid in my bed and relaxing for a bit. I sent Morena, the CIM queen a message. She answered it a few seconds. I told her I that I was leaving tomorrow and wanted to see her once more. She came over later.

I wanted her for TLN. Same. 280 mil. No problem. I put on some music thinking she wanted to dance. She unzipped my pants, played with the rocket and commenced her classic BBBJ. I just laid back in an attempt to enjoy it for a while. Unlike the so-called BJ queens in Thailand, she sucked me off well past 15 minutes and did not get tired. As usual, my babies (what little was left) ended up in her boca. In my three trips to Medellin, I never ever had a chica BBBJ me like this one has done. Maybe I messed with the wrong ones or something. But this chica can chupar muy bien. She cleaned up and returned to bed. Sleep.

Day 5.

The morning came and this day was travel day. I looked at the CIM queen. She was sound asleep and naked. I got a boner just looking at her lay there. I woke her and put her hand on the rocket. I reached over and got a condom. She got up from the bed. She returned from the bathroom, got on top of me and rode me good in that one position until I shot my load. WHEW. Damn. Now if she were to ask me for a tattoo, I'll say "Si" easily. She kissed me, cleaned up and left. I got cleaned up, packed up, called an uber and went to El Dorado. Bogota did not disappoint. Between meeting the BBBJCIM queen and banging Venezolanas, I'the say my Bogota experience was great.

[Coupe66]

A couple of random questions before my upcoming trip to Bogota. I haven't really read anyone mentioning about the altitude there, have any of you guys suffered from altitude sickness there?

The city is at high ski resort altitude (2640 metres). I don't know much about that condition and don't think I've been at that height since skiing at about 14 years old, but knowing my luck I'll get it there! I have visions of me wandering around with barely enough energy to walk, let alone shag!!

On another note, is hand sanitiser easy to find in the stores there, is it something commonly used there?

[El Moreno 92]

A couple of random questions before my upcoming trip to Bogota. I haven't really read anyone mentioning about the altitude there, have any of you guys suffered from altitude sickness there?

The city is at high ski resort altitude (2640 metres). I don't know much about that condition and don't think I've been at that height since skiing at about 14 years old, but knowing my luck I'll get it there! I have visions of me wandering around with barely enough energy to walk, let alone shag!!

On another note, is hand sanitiser easy to find in the stores there, is it something commonly used there?I had no issues with the altitude. I guess the issues would come into play if you were involved in heavy physical activities outside. With all of the walking I did, I did not have any issues though.

The smaller stores (mom and pop joints) did not have hand sanitizer. The larger chain restaurants did (Hooters, Archies, etc).

[Mr Enternational]

A couple of random questions before my upcoming trip to Bogota. I haven't really read anyone mentioning about the altitude there, have any of you guys suffered from altitude sickness there?If you are okay in the plane, you should be okay in the city. The elevation of Bogota is 8800 feet. The plane is pressurized to coincide with an elevation between 6000 and 8000 feet.

I have asthma and sometimes I feel it when I get off the plane, but by the time I get through immigration it is gone.

[Mr Enternational]

I ask her how much to come back to my loft in El Centro for the night. She said 500 mil pesos. Que? She "came down" to 450 mil but would not go lower.And this wasn't including the fee you would have had to pay the place for taking her out right? Great report. You are batting 1000! I just wish you could have gone inside California. But there is just so much shit going on in Santa Fe that you will get satisfactory results everywhere you turn; especially since the Venezuelans have hit town.

P. S. I don't usually give hoes tips, but I just had to give the last chick I hit in California a tip. She was Venezuelan and straight GFE. But what made me tip her was that when we got to the room her bra broke. Knowing how fucked up things are for her back home the last thing she was trying to do was buy a new bra. So I gave her money and told her to go buy a new one with it.

[Jalle]

I was lucky to have a wingman in Chapinero on two concecutive Saturdays. First tour was with BaddHabbit and the latter with Dccpa. Thanks again for great company!

Day 1:

We originally wanted to visit some Spas with BaddHabbit. After 30 minutes BaddHabbit was already sessioning with two girls and I decided to skip the lineup. Since I had an hour to wait I checked few other spas in southern part of north map. Nothing new to report about those. After that took a taxi to Chicas 2000. Since it was my first casa in Bogota it was a real WOW. More than 20 girls on Sat afternoon. It took me like 15 seconds to make local friends by saying "Quiero una cerveza" in front of the lineup and get everyone laugh. Excellent choice said one of the locals. We ended up chatting there 3 hours and drinking 6-8 beers each. BaddHabbit finally finished with his girls and took Uber to Chicas 2000. It was already like 5 pm and the lineup started to weaken hour by hour. I recommend going there quite early. A couple of the colombians also said that it's not totally safe in the evening. Strangest thing was nobody of the group has ever heard name "chicas 2000" even though they are regulars and one of them actually living just two blocks away. The place is definitely same with black metal gate. One minor correction to Bogota lists: in Chicas 2000 is now 35 k for 30 min and not 40 k (price is printed on wall), 15 min is still 30 k and beer 5 k.

After Chicas 2000 we headed to Pussy House with a group of 6 including me, BaddHabbit and 4 colombian guys. It was quite slow in the early evening. Maybe 10 girls and few more customers. I would say it's definitely a good option to watch girls and drink (5 k also here for beer). We didn't partake in action but got quoted 100 k for 30 minutes. Our colombian friends said no-no-no it's max 70 k here. Looks like map says 120 k, girls say 100 k, colombians say 70 k so the price is definitely not too fixed. We decided to take a break after PH and head to our accommodations for rest.

Later in the evening I went with one of the Colombians to Club Platin Oz-74 which is the southernmost place in north map. It was totally different vibe than Pussy House. Customers are clearly better doing locals and girls also slightly hotter than in Pussy House. It's more expensive place but the setup for strip stage is best I have seen for a while. There is no fence like in Pussy House and lights are also better. I wouldn't even report this place, but just in case someone is interested in a good show with not-so-rough crowd this is a place to be.

Day 2:

We had similar start with Dccpa on the next Saturday. He was interested to see Chicas 2000 so we decided to start there. They had again around 20 girls but more than half were different than previous week. I spoke with a couple of girls and they had just arrived from Venezuela. According to them all but few of the current girls are venecas.

After leaving Chicas 2000 we visited the following places (maybe even forgot some):

- Ron con Piernas: smoky and quite low quality with just a few girls.

- The 70 a bar: very low quality.

- Unknown casa on the same street: better than the two before but just few girls.

- Calle 69 # xx-xx: second best lineup of this day, maybe 10 girls and friendly place with many customers.

- Unknown casa Carrera 68 #17-85: few girls slightly better and friendly manager.

- Gaticas or el reservado eden: Avoid. Very pushy venezuelans running the place and low quality.

- Salome: Strong avoid: the guys tried to physically push us to back room even though we said we are leaving (probably same venezuelans run the place as around the corner since we were guided in by them). It was really dirty and girls very very low quality, let alone the security issues. I am not 100% sure this place was Salome as someone reported positive things about it recently. Hard to believe if it's this place. It's also possible there is other place in 30 m radius. However, these two last places felt much more unsafe than my first Santafe visit to get an idea. We decided to finish the round here as it got too rough.

In conclusion: Out of the mentioned places Chicas 2000 and Pussy House are worth visiting but I wouldn't waste time going around all shitholes on the map. Seems like the ones that are good are the ones most discussed in forum. There were also at least two places not mentioned in the map, but I didn't take addresses down.