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I couldn't conceive of worse advice!
1) the north is actually the MOST dangerous part of Bogot to be hanging out at, ESPECIALLY if you're solo. Thieves in Bogot go where the money is.
2) it's also the most boring and most expensive.
Honestly, if you want to stay north of 72, it's better to not even come here!Yes, that is where the kidnap taxis are, a us diplomat was murdered a few years back that way.
Also in La Candeleria tourists are hunted and there have been whole hostels robbed there in the past.
It's a stupid law, but calling in and inputing the IMEI to register the phone should take all of 2-3 minutes.
If your Spanish isn't good enough, get the person selling the SIMcard to help you. Slip them an extra 2000 or so for their trouble.
Also, if your phone is blocked in Colombia, it could very well be blocked in the US too, so be careful!They do this for you at PanAmericano stores, there are representatives for TIGO, Virgen, Claro.
I was at Bancolombia taking out $100 usd and the screen said "we can't process your transaction right now because of technical difficulties". No problem. They charged my account anyway but when that happens, it usually gets reimbursed in 5 minutes. It's been 4 days and still no reimbursement. I went to the Bancolombia bank that the ATM belonged to and they said they can't do anything about it and I have to talk with my bank. I talked to my bank and they said they will look into it and send me a letter with a decision in 14 Business days. I remember this happening to my cousin 2 years ago when he took out $400 usd in pesos Colombianos from another Colombian ATM and he waited too long to grab it and the ATM just ate back the money but still charged him the $400. He talked with his American bank and after a month, his bank only agreed to pay him back $200. Ever since then, my cousin no longer uses ATMS.Schwab checking is free with Free ATM except if you go to Citi.
Warning, my friend who is from the states just got robbed. He was walking alone through Chapinero and then 3 guys approached him (1 of them had a knife) and asked him for his phone and then asked him for his wallet. He obliged and they let him go after. He said he ran 4 blocks up and told 2 policemen on a motorcycle and they went off but nothing happened. The bad luck with the ATM machine happened to me but my friend who was alone had it really bad! Stay Safe out there!Please provide some more details, ie in what part of Chapinero? Its quite a big place. At what time of the day or night did this happen? How was he dressed, very touristy? Was he standing out too much?
I couldn't conceive of worse advice!
1) the north is actually the MOST dangerous part of Bogot to be hanging out at, ESPECIALLY if you're solo. Thieves in Bogot go where the money is.
2) it's also the most boring and most expensive.
Honestly, if you want to stay north of 72, it's better to not even come here!There are lot's of prepagados and apartment chicas in Chapinero & Usaquen I like the look of, so seems around Parque 93 where I reserved would be a good area to stay? So you're saying it's dangerous to walk around at night? Not planning to do that anyway. I can take the transmillenio or a cab downtown from there during the daytime to see the sights or visit Santa Fe. Are you just trying to make me paranoid maybe?
About 15 years ago in a Medellin casa I was showering after the session and out of the blue decided to get out fully wet to look at my trousers (I had never done that before). I caught the chica rifling through my pockets, she screamed, LOL. Ever since then I never let the container of my wallet out of my sight even if I have to take my trousers or bag into the bathroom with me.When visiting Casas / apartments etc, I ALWAYS take all my belongings into the bathroom with me and lock the door, Even if they say I don't have to as there's nobody else there, I just politely ignore them. I don't know what you expected to be honest, what happened doesn't surprise me at all. It's as bad as going to a bar / restaurant, leaving your belongings at your table and going to bathroom, expecting them to be there when you got back!
I remember a long time ago in the early 2000's I went to Sofia, Bulgaria when I was pretty young and naive. I took a woman I met who was standing outside into some cheap hotel they used, paid her, then she told me to go wash. When I came out of the bathroom she had disappeared. At first I was really surprised and a bit angry, but now looking back I was a complete sucker and was asking for it!
I was at Bancolombia taking out $100 usd and the screen said "we can't process your transaction right now because of technical difficulties". No problem. They charged my account anyway but when that happens, it usually gets reimbursed in 5 minutes. It's been 4 days and still no reimbursement. I went to the Bancolombia bank that the ATM belonged to and they said they can't do anything about it and I have to talk with my bank. I talked to my bank and they said they will look into it and send me a letter with a decision in 14 Business days. I remember this happening to my cousin 2 years ago when he took out $400 usd in pesos Colombianos from another Colombian ATM and he waited too long to grab it and the ATM just ate back the money but still charged him the $400. He talked with his American bank and after a month, his bank only agreed to pay him back $200. Ever since then, my cousin no longer uses ATMS.Did you go in when it happened or later? Once in Buenos Aires, the ATM said I had taken the amount (can't remember how much), but gave me nothing! I went straight into the bank, and was pretty full on with the staff there. The bank teller explained to me that noting would show up on my account. I wasn't convinced, so took me to the back of the ATM, where he accessed it's computer, printed out a massive list of transactions and showed me nothing had shown up for the amount I tried to take.
Similar with what happened to your cousin, once in the UK the bills came out sideways all twisted up from the machine, I was grabbing them and trying to prise them from the machine as fast as I could, but it closed before I could get them all! I was down hundreds of pounds. I spoke to the staff, they did a check of the ATM, real cash out VS requested amount out, saw the discrepancy, and I was reimbursed. You just have to get in there, tell them the story and insist, because they definitely have the tools to check exactly what happened. Sounds like Bancolombia are just fobbing you off, it's go nothing to do with your bank, the technical problem was with their machine!
Yes, that is where the kidnap taxis are, a us diplomat was murdered a few years back that way.
Also in La Candeleria tourists are hunted and there have been whole hostels robbed there in the past.Are you talking about what happened in 1980, or a more recent incident?
HumanBeing1
02-22-19, 03:50
Actually there is no direct link between poverty and prostitution offer. For me the number one monger destination is Germany, while Switzerland, Austria or Holland are also good options, not exactly third world countries and one of the worst shoud be something between Mauritania, Afghanistan, Sudan or Pakistan, not exactly rich countries.Exactly. Try mongering in the poorest latin American country, nicuragua. Not good.
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02-22-19, 06:05
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I couldn't conceive of worse advice!
1) the north is actually the MOST dangerous part of Bogot to be hanging out at, ESPECIALLY if you're solo. Thieves in Bogot go where the money is.
2) it's also the most boring and most expensive.
Honestly, if you want to stay north of 72, it's better to not even come here!I'm going to disagree with a qualification.
Most expensive yes. Boring is subjective. I've never been bored in North Bogota. However, I'm sure some people wouldn't care for it. Expensive is also a relative thing. You can find great places for $60 night or under. My last visit For $48 per night I found a place that was 4 times the size of a hotel room in lovely Michigan City, Indiana, that I stayed in every week for $100 per night. And that was 10 years ago.
Safety. Thieves look for easy victims. If you look like an easy victim, it doesn't matter where you are. Walking around staring at your phone, walking around counting your money, walking around obviously lost, all make you vulnerable. Don't act like a victim and you're less likely to be a victim.
Mr Enternational
02-22-19, 09:20
When visiting Casas / apartments etc, I ALWAYS take all my belongings into the bathroom with me and lock the door,You might have a problem with that in Colombia since the casas do not have doors to the bathroom.
Mr Enternational
02-22-19, 09:23
Exactly. Try mongering in the poorest latin American country, nicuragua. Not good.What is not good about it? A buddy of mine swore by Managua before getting his place in Medellin. He was getting all kind of chicks for $6. I have had a couple of girlfriends in Managua, but never had the chance to monger there because I would stay at their houses.
I couldn't conceive of worse advice!
1) the north is actually the MOST dangerous part of Bogot to be hanging out at, ESPECIALLY if you're solo. Thieves in Bogot go where the money is.
2) it's also the most boring and most expensive.
Honestly, if you want to stay north of 72, it's better to not even come here!It's OK if you feel confortable in the poorer area of Bogota. I apreciate both, but for first timers, south is definitvely not to recommend untel they get used with the city. True, shit can happen everywhere, and thiefes are everywhere. But in the northern areas there is much more protection. I live in the north because of safety. South, the houses and apartments are robbed anytime, while north any building has a 24 hours safety guard. There are more cameras, more police and everywhere there are private body guards you probably never had noticed as they are discrete. Once a guy robbed the cellphone of my girl friend from the open window of the car while she was waiting at the traffic light at 200m from where we live. From the car behind her, came out three armed bodyguards showing their gun and asking the guy to give the cellphone back. Last month I was having a coffee at my favorite terras. Suddenly someone yelled for a thief in the street. In couple of no time the thief was on the ground with several bodyguards on him. This will not happen in the south.
The Tall Man
02-22-19, 15:28
Yes, that is where the kidnap taxis are, a us diplomat was murdered a few years back that way.
Also in La Candeleria tourists are hunted and there have been whole hostels robbed there in the past.True this stuff, how quickly people forget the reality of the perception of danger.
The Tall Man.
Exactly. Try mongering in the poorest latin American country, nicuragua. Not good.I'd rather monger in the richest Latin American countries viz. Brazil, Mexico, Colombia than the poorest ones Nicaragua, Honduras, Bolivia.
Exactly. Try mongering in the poorest latin American country, nicuragua. Not good.Most Central American countries have a bias against Americans, Mexico too. They are propagandized against the US.
Colombia is one of the best for Americans to visit as they like Americans and are our best friend in Latin America. George Bush saved Colombia and they are grateful.
Please provide some more details, ie in what part of Chapinero? Its quite a big place. At what time of the day or night did this happen? How was he dressed, very touristy? Was he standing out too much?He was visiting the area with the casas and he wasn't dressed fancy at all. He had Adidas sweatpants on with a hat and a jacket. He actually looks like a native Colombian. I advise that you guys don't carry your debit card with you as there is a thing called "la vuelta millionaria" where they take you to an ATM and then to another ATM and take your money out until your balance is $0. If they thought he was American in that very second, he might have been kidnapped but they probably found out he was American when they looked at his ID in his wallet later.
KilledSoul
02-23-19, 11:54
When it comes to money in traveling abroad, estimate, and always bring everything you need with you. Change a little over in the airport, and the rest on the street. When you go out, take only what you need from the stash. I've done it this way for years, and never had to dick around with ATMs or banks.This. Whenever I have travelled SEA I took USD and followed same modus operandi as yours. But people on this forum say using ATMs give better exchange rates. So maybe there is a point for using ATMs.
Mr Enternational
02-23-19, 13:43
This. Whenever I have travelled SEA I took USD and followed same modus operandi as yours. But people on this forum say using ATMs give better exchange rates. So maybe there is a point for using ATMs.That is because exchanges in Southeast Asia give fairer rates than other places. Best to use ATM in other countries, besides maybe Peru where you can exchange with people on the street. Although it is said they are about to do away with that.
He was visiting the area with the casas and he wasn't dressed fancy at all. He had Adidas sweatpants on with a hat and a jacket. He actually looks like a native Colombian. I advise that you guys don't carry your debit card with you as there is a thing called "la vuelta millionaria" where they take you to an ATM and then to another ATM and take your money out until your balance is $0. If they thought he was American in that very second, he might have been kidnapped but they probably found out he was American when they looked at his ID in his wallet later.Is this report serious? I thought kidnappings happened in the Farc controlled areas in the past. Can somebody please give me an actual example of a tourist having been kidnapped in recent years in Bogota, otherwise I wish people would stop writing inflammatory things like this. Maybe I should stop reading this blog, at least until I get there! From my research, the casas in Chapinero are spread out, so what do you mean by the Casa area ? And was this is daylight or at night ?
After weeks of asking questions and getting replies, I am really confused about what kind of city Bogota is. I get all kinds of contradictory advice. On the one extreme there is Mr Enternational telling me to chill out and stop worrying, to Bluecar saying they would have kidnapped his friend if they knew he was American!?
This is supposed to be a vacation after all. A couple of months ago after first seeing the chicas available on prepagados there, I was really excited about coming. Now, 4 days before my flight, all I'm thinking about is all the things I have to worry about the place, and the chicas are far in the background of my mind, not how it should be! Researching the place so much, making sure you look and act just like the locals is bad enough, but having to worry about being kidnapped is something else! (If that is a reality?)
I am getting the impression that Bogota is the most dangerous of the well known cities in Colombia, and if you are unlucky enough to be attacked, that nobody would bat an eyelid. In any given area in Bogota, are there dodgy guys just hanging around waiting for a victim, it seems so!? I don't think a city can be considered even relatively safe or normal by Western standards anyway, if you have to avoid wearing the wrong type of shirt, shoes etc and not be able to take a mobile, bank cards or a visible watch with you in daylight without having a reasonable possibility of getting mugged for them. Blue Car says don't carry bank cards with you, but if you're staying at an Airbnb with no safe, then how can you keep your important items safe?
I'm sitting in a nice cafe in a wealthy northern European city, it's 16 C in February, there's a decent red light district 10 minutes walk from where I am, people leave 6000 Euro bicycles in the street here at night without worrying they will be stolen. So am I sensible to fly half way around the world just to get laid, with all this uncertainty about Bogota. It's stressful enough planning a trip for a month to a country you've never been before, and going solo, without reading about kidnappings!
Is this report serious?You want an absolute answer but there is not one. You need to view it as a probability. It is unsafe in terms of higher probability.
After weeks of asking questions and getting replies, I am really confused about what kind of city Bogota is. I get all kinds of contradictory advice. On the one extreme there is Mr Enternational telling me to chill out and stop worrying, to Bluecar saying they would have kidnapped his friend if they knew he was American!?If worried stay and play in the north. Based on Routards advice I did that. Parque 93 area seemed safe, busy and with a few American brands. Met many friendly people as well has a few monger options within walking distance or short taxi ride. Yes, you pay more but, still decent. Generally stick to daytime if walking. Mezzanine is a great option but, don't just walk into the first door and pick the first lady.
You can go into multiple doors and look for your type and negotiate. There are strip clubs at night and as mentioned you can venture down to Chapinaro day clubs.
Check the travel schedule section maybe you can hookup with a wingman to open up more options. No matter where you are, you still have to be alert and on the lookout. (that goes for any destination).
In the daytime I always felt safe and at night just became more aware.
Parkinsons
02-23-19, 21:25
I'm sitting in a nice cafe in a wealthy northern European city, it's 16 C in February, there's a decent red light district 10 minutes walk from where I am, people leave 6000 Euro bicycles in the street here at night without worrying they will be stolen. So am I sensible to fly half way around the world just to get laid, with all this uncertainty about Bogota. It's stressful enough planning a trip for a month to a country you've never been before, and going solo, without reading about kidnappings!Just chill, you are worrying too much. I've stayed a few blocks from Santa Fe and walked freely. I also stayed in Chapinero as well and walked around at nigjt and went casa-hopping during the day time.
Here's a suggestion: on your first day join a walking group or a bicycle group (plenty of them, just Google) do some tourist stuff until you get comfortable. Then start with the "safer" option like the mezzanine massages, then day casa in Chapinero, then work your way up to Santa Fe,. Don't forget too, if you had a good session with, say, a mezzanine girl, arrange for her to overnight with you at your hotel (not sue if you booked Airbnb; I always prefer hotels with a front desk to hold girls' ID). You are getting a known level of service and most likely cheaper than the preparagos.
I had a lot of fun in Bogota, definitely in Santa Fe. I even prefer Bogota over Medellin. Stop worrying, stay calm and enjoy your time.
Thanks guys for your advice! The only problem is I'm starting my stay at a hotel downtown near Santa Fe, so if I want my first experience of the City to be in the north, I'll have to take the transmilenio or taxi there for the first few days. Parkinsons, that's a great suggestion re. the biking tour, as I'm into cycling anyway. Have already checked it out, I won't let this worry get me down. Anyway, if I don't like Bogota I can go elsewhere. I'm planning on staying a month in Colombia after all. Actually, will be staying in an Airbnb after my hotel, won't want to bring a chica back there. That's why I asked where the daytime motels (with hourly rates) etc are in Chapinero, but nobody answered me on that. Any ideas? By Mezzanine, you mean the chica joint that has been mentioned earlier?
if you are unlucky enough to be attacked, that nobody would bat an eyelid. In any given area in Bogota, are there dodgy guys just hanging around waiting for a victim.Yes, that's exactly what those guys do LOL Look up the movie "Pickpockets" on Netflix. The main casa areas is from calle 63 to calle 71 in Chapinero. I guess what I meant by kidnapping is they take you to an ATM then to another ATM until they drain your bank account. If you're worried about getting mugged then go to the northern casas instead. The trick that those guys played on my friend is that when the 3 guys were walking towards my friend on the same side of the sidewalk, they were spread out to make it look like they weren't together but once they got really close, they all piled up on him. That was a tough situation to avoid because it's not like if you see some suspicious guys walking on your opposite direction, it will be odd to just suddenly turn around and walk back to the direction you were coming from.
I was in Santa Fe on Friday Night and out of nowhere a lot of girls started running away because the police raided Atunes. I think they arrested girls who didn't have their papers or proper documentation. Atunes and all the other for the exception of 3 clubs were very empty. We then decided to go to the Primer de Mayo clubs in the South and had a blast.
Yes, that's exactly what those guys do LOL Look up the movie "Pickpockets" on Netflix. The main casa areas is from calle 63 to calle 71 in Chapinero. I guess what I meant by kidnapping is they take you to an ATM then to another ATM until they drain your bank account. If you're worried about getting mugged then go to the northern casas instead. The trick that those guys played on my friend is that when the 3 guys were walking towards my friend on the same side of the sidewalk, they were spread out to make it look like they weren't together but once they got really close, they all piled up on him. That was a tough situation to avoid because it's not like if you see some suspicious guys walking on your opposite direction, it will be odd to just suddenly turn around and walk back to the direction you were coming from.Thanks for the info, but you still didn't say where this was or what time of the day or night? It would be pretty hard to march you from cashpoint to cashpoint in broad daylight in Chapinero I reckon with other people around. I seem to get the feeling you find this story somewhat amusing ? How old is your friend, are you guys very young? Anyway, I'm not going to let it put me off. And you shouldn't use the term kidnapping if that's not what you meant, otherwise it's just scaremongering. Can you give me a news link to any westerner that's actually been kidnapped in Bogota in recent years?
Mr Enternational
02-24-19, 02:55
And you shouldn't use the term kidnapping if that's not what you meant, otherwise it's just scaremongering. Can you give me a news link to any westerner that's actually been kidnapped in Bogota in recent years?Well what do you call taking someone against their will? It is called kidnapping. Happened to a buddy of mine that goes to Colombia all the time. (Not sure if it was day or night. Don't know what difference it would make.) Somehow he was drugged. The police found him lying in the street with no clothes on. He called some people that he is very close to in Barranquilla and they called someone they knew in Bogota to help him out. He did not have any money left or anything. It did not put him off. He still goes to Colombia all the time, but mostly stays in Barranquilla.
I guess the moral is that you can't live life being scared. I have been to Colombia over 100 times and nothing has ever happened to me and I have never seen anything happen to anybody. Maybe that is because I stay in what is considered the worst areas!
I decided to just hit my buddy up and ask. LOL. I guess me and Bango were right. They go to where the money is. No sense in going through all that trouble with poor people.
Me: hey man. when that shit happened to you in bogota was it in the day or night?
Him: At night in a estata 6 neighborhood (Usaquen), a regular restaurant/bar called Luna Bar off calle 116 and cra 18. This was back in 2008
Me: ok
Him: Only had 2 beers, wasnt trolling for chicks, just checking out the scene on the way to Barranquilla for La Guacherna, which happens the wkd prior to carnaval there.
Him: Happened on a Thurs night layover in BOG....couldnt trust Delta to arrive on time, nor immigration to process us in time to catch the last flight to BAQ, so I had to stay in BOG that night. My downfall was going out to what I thought was a safer area than Santa Fe
Me: lol. i always stay downtown next to santa fe.
Him: At the time, I was staying in a cheap hotel near El Campin, since I had an early flight to BAQ
Him: Now I alternate hotels between Chapinero (Abitare 56) and Parque 93 (GHL or Doubletree)
P.S. You are not going to find something like that in the news unless the person wound up dead. Check out the one lately in the Medellin thread about the Turkish university professor that was in town for a conference.
Thanks for the info, but you still didn't say where this was or what time of the day or night? It would be pretty hard to march you from cashpoint to cashpoint in broad daylight in Chapinero I reckon with other people around. I seem to get the feeling you find this story somewhat amusing ? How old is your friend, are you guys very young? Anyway, I'm not going to let it put me off. And you shouldn't use the term kidnapping if that's not what you meant, otherwise it's just scaremongering. Can you give me a news link to any westerner that's actually been kidnapped in Bogota in recent years?Around 5 years ago this was a thing in Bogota. How it worked was there would be 2 or more guys working together. 1 was a taxi driver. The taxi driver would pick a good spot to pick up tourists. Once they got a likely victim in the taxi, they would drive to a location where their accomplices were waiting. The guys would jump in the taxi, with a knife or gun and rob the passenger. If the guy had credit cards with him, they would drive around to different ATMs and force him to withdraw cash. They would do this until all the cards were blocked.
I haven't heard of this happening recently.
At the time it was recommended to either have someone call a taxi, or to use a taxi app. That way there's a record of the taxi number.
There are other things that are recommended. Don't carry a wallet. I only carry an ID, my room or apartment key and the cash I need for the day. I typically only carry my ATM card when I'm going to make a withdrawal. The only other thing is my phone. If I'm carrying more than 300 k, I'll split it between 2 pockets.
Learn where the busy streets are. When possible, stay to the busy streets. If someone doesn't look right, avoid them. Even if it means turning around.
Well what do you call taking someone against their will? It is called kidnapping. Happened to a buddy of mine that goes to Colombia all the time. (Not sure if it was day or night. Don't know what difference it would make.) Somehow he was drugged. The police found him lying in the street with no clothes on. He called some people that he is very close to in Barranquilla and they called someone they knew in Bogota to help him out. He did not have any money left or anything. It did not put him off. He still goes to Colombia all the time, but mostly stays in Barranquilla.
I guess the moral is that you can't live life being scared. I have been to Colombia over 100 times and nothing has ever happened to me and I have never seen anything happened to anybody. Maybe that is because I stay in what is considered the worst areas! Buddy, your posts are so contradictory and all over the place, I just don't know what to think of you anymore. A few pages back you were laughing when somebody said they were worried about being kidnapped in Santa Fe, but now you're trying to rub it in that this kind of things happens. Plus, you're always going on that nothing has ever happened to you (even though you admit to doing really dumb things like going into Santa Fe wearing diamond earrings!) But then at the same time you qualified the reason why yourself, saying it's because you're a black guy from the ghetto so you just blend in and nobody notices you. And therefore not because you behave in a way that doesn't make you a target! So are your posts helping anybody? You do dumb things, but it doesn't mater because nobody notices you anyway ?
Man you have me in stitches over here. Kidnap you? If they kidnap you they will have to feed you. Just tell them you eat too much to be kidnapped.
You are going to look like a moron walking up and down the same street. I will bet pesos to peanuts that you wonder about the other streets and go take a look. Why do you guys imagine Santa Fe and downtown Medelland to be war zones? Here's the post I'm talking about that you made, so make your mind up! On this one you're totally laughing at the possibility of him being kidnapped, but on my post you're agreeing with BlueCar and looking for other examples.
Parkinsons
02-24-19, 04:30
Thanks guys for your advice! The only problem is I'm starting my stay at a hotel downtown near Santa Fe, so if I want my first experience of the City to be in the north, I'll have to take the transmilenio or taxi there for the first few days. Parkinsons, that's a great suggestion re. the biking tour, as I'm into cycling anyway. Have already checked it out, I won't let this worry get me down. Anyway, if I don't like Bogota I can go elsewhere. I'm planning on staying a month in Colombia after all. Actually, will be staying in an Airbnb after my hotel, won't want to bring a chica back there. That's why I asked where the daytime motels (with hourly rates) etc are in Chapinero, but nobody answered me on that. Any ideas? By Mezzanine, you mean the chica joint that has been mentioned earlier?Hey man I think I remember you from the Santo Domingo board. It's safer in the DR but the chicas are trickier. In Colombia you'll find it's the other way around. I don't think you'll have any problems, stop worrying!
Yes by mezzanine I mean the office building in the north with the multiple massage parlors. There I sessioned with a cute university student whom I later brought back to my hotel.
The bike tour that I joined took us through Santa Fe. The guide explained the place to us, told us to look just don't take any photos. You can get a feel that way. But be warned: during the day the ones standing on the streets are mainly trannies or fatties. No way do they represent the talent working at night inside the clubs. Your jaw will drop when you see the chicas inside Club Paisas at night.
I would advise against preparagos. Most ad photos are bait and switches. And their prices are high.
During the day in Chapinero guys will hand out flyers (business cards) advertising for casas. They're legit. You'll learn a lot of places that way. Since you are there for a month, trust me by week 2 you'll be teaching us new places.
There are also quite many swinger clubs in Bogota - - I haven't tried those. They promote themselves on Instagram and some allow for single male visitors. Try them out too!
Finally, worst case scenario -- since you're there for a month - - if Bogota doesn't work for you, heck for $50 you can get roundtrip tickets to Medelln or Cali or Cartagena!
Mr Enternational
02-24-19, 04:42
But then at the same time you qualified the reason why yourself, saying it's because you're a black guy from the ghetto so you just blend in and nobody notices you. And therefore not because you behave in a way that doesn't make you a target! So are your posts helping anybody? You do dumb things, but it doesn't mater because nobody notices you anyway ?Well you just attributed two things to me that I have NEVER said. On the contrary I have always said that we as foreigners are NOT blending into shit no matter how much we think wearing khaki pants and a button down shirt is making us look like everyone else. I have also never said that nobody ever notices me. That would be a dumb thing to say. Of course people notice me. I am made of flesh; of matter. How could people with eyes not notice me?
And what dumb things do I do? All I do is walk around like everyone else on the street. That is why I can not understand what the big deal is. I am not trying to invent ways for people not to notice me that would make them notice me more! I have constantly said to just walk around and act like a normal person instead of creeping around like you are some secret super spy or something.
You are really trying to make traveling out to be a headache that it is not. Imagine if every person in each thread took the board through the shit that you are taking this one through each time they went to a new place. Nobody would ever get to discussing the whole idea of this forum, which is mongering!
Last week I went to Roatan, Honduras. I read a few posts on ISG before going. I read a few posts on tripadvisor to see where to stay. I asked ZERO fucking questions. I took my ass down there, did some scuba diving, hunted for chicks, and left. It was that simple. It was not something that took months of strategic planning and 1000 questions as if I was venturing out to space or something. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I AM LAUGHING. And I think Honduras is supposed to be one of the most dangerous places on the planet.
"Honduras Travel Advisory. Bureau of Consular Affairs. US Department of State.
US Department of State (. Gov) travel .
Reconsider travel to Honduras due to crime. Some areas have increased risk. Read the entire Travel Advisory. "
Hell. I think at first you had said you were going to travel to Bogota like Feb 12 or whatever and I even offered to show you around at the time in order to put this shit to rest! I was there like I said I would be. I took taxis, I took Ubers, I walked, I did not get kidnapped, I am still living. Come on man. Time to put on your big boy pants.
Despite what you say here, you're often contradicting yourself, you say 'just chill out and come on down' when it suits you, but then you jump on the bandwagon just for the sake of it to back up somebody else's post, ie about kidnapping, just to be entertaining? That's not being helpful, especially to somebody who is coming there for the first time in a few days! Maybe you don't even notice you do it, or you're doing it now just to antagonise me?
Yes, if I could plan my trip again I don't think I would start it in Bogota. It's a good job I've done a lot of research and asked a lot of questions, but it's only in the last couple of days that I've learned the scarier things, it's like you don't even see the irony of how you say 'Yes it's cool here, but hey, you might get kidnapped!' Anyway I only booked my flight 2 weeks ago, before that I couldn't come and wasn't doing serious planning. And you have emphasised in a subtle way that you think being a black guy from the ghetto has helped keep you safe, just look back at your posts. And you said yourself that going into Santa Fe the first time wearing diamond earrings was dumb !
So I'm glad I've done a lot of research and asked a lot! If not, I wouldn't know that if I want to visit private apartments there I'll have to use a taxi app, apparently hailing taxis isn't safe, the TransMilenio isn't safe (especially at night), checking your phone map outside while trying to find a chicas apartment isn't safe, dressing slightly differently isn't safe, as is wearing a watch etc, you have to watch your drinks being spiked, and according to you, there's more chance of being mugged in the best areas than the crappy ones. Where does it end?? Doesn't help to be suddenly getting all this info from either in the last 4 days before my flight!! Anyway, I asked you a couple of times politely to not bother trying to 'help me', but you just carry on regardless !
Well you just attributed two things to me that I have NEVER said. On the contrary I have always said that we as foreigners are NOT blending into shit no matter how much we think wearing khaki pants and a button down shirt is making us look like everyone else. I have also never said that nobody ever notices me. That would be a dumb thing to say. Of course people notice me. I am made of flesh; of matter. How could people with eyes not notice me?
And what dumb things do I do? All I do is walk around like everyone else on the street. That is why I can not understand what the big deal is. I am not trying to invent ways for people not to notice me that would make them notice me more! I have constantly said to just walk around and act like a normal person instead of creeping around like you are some secret super spy or something.
You are really trying to make traveling out to be a headache that it is not. Imagine if every person in each thread took the board through the shit that you are taking this one through each time they went to a new place. Nobody would ever get to discussing the whole idea of this forum, which is mongering!
Last week I went to Roatan, Honduras. I read a few posts on ISG before going. I read a few posts on tripadvisor to see where to stay. I asked ZERO fucking questions. I took my ass down there, did some scuba diving, hunted for chicks, and left. It was that simple. It was not something that took months of strategic planning and 1000 questions as if I was venturing out to space or something. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I AM LAUGHING. And I think Honduras is supposed to be one of the most dangerous places on the planet.
"Honduras Travel Advisory. Bureau of Consular Affairs. US Department of State.
US Department of State (. Gov) travel .
Reconsider travel to Honduras due to crime. Some areas have increased risk. Read the entire Travel Advisory. "
Hell. I think at first you had said you were going to travel to Bogota like Feb 12 or whatever and I even offered to show you around at the time in order to put this shit to rest! I was there like I said I would be. I took taxis, I took Ubers, I walked, I did not get kidnapped, I am still living. Come on man. Time to put on your big boy pants.
Mr Enternational
02-24-19, 06:05
It's a good job I've done a lot of research and asked a lot of questions, but it's only in the last couple of days that I've learned the scarier things, it's like you guys don't even see the irony of how you say 'Yes it's cool here, but hey, you might get kidnapped!'You can't go around living life in fear. You said that you are from a wealthy European city, as if living life does not have risks anywhere. I know a guy that was in The Hague, which is probably one of the safest places on earth. He was riding a bike and got hit by that little train that they have. It cut him in half and he died. So much for the place being considered safe. You can't live in a bubble dude. You have to go outside. And with going outside, shit is subject to happen. Such is life.
And you have emphasised in a subtle way that you think being a black guy from the ghetto has helped keep you safe, just look back at your posts.How do you emphasize something in a subtle way? That is an oxymoron. I only say that because the majority of guys on ISG are White and they say how scary and dangerous Santa Fe and downtown Medellin are. I am bringing another perspective as a Black guy that grew up around those kind of places that I do not find it intimidating or dangerous. My buddy that I posted the conversation is Black too, but I guess you saw how well that kept him safe.
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Last week I went to Roatan, Honduras. I read a few posts on ISG before going. I read a few posts on tripadvisor to see where to stay. I asked ZERO fucking questions. I took my ass down there, did some scuba diving, hunted for chicks, and left. It was that simple. It was not something that took months of strategic planning and 1000 questions as if I was venturing out to space or something. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I AM LAUGHING. And I think Honduras is supposed to be one of the most dangerous places on the planet.
"Honduras Travel Advisory. Bureau of Consular Affairs. US Department of State.
Reconsider travel to Honduras due to crime. Some areas have increased risk. Read the entire Travel Advisory. "
You are 100% correct. On a scale of 1 to 10, Honduras would be 9 or 10. Honduras makes Bogota look like Zurich.
Sir - you are brave. I would not go to Honduras unless I have 2 bodyguards in front and 2 behind me.
I know Honduras has potential. I am curious about your experience. Do you plan to post a report in the Honduras forum?
Thanks,
BKKguru.
<snip> you have to watch your drinks being spiked, and according to you, there's more chance of being mugged in the best areas than the crappy ones. You have been given good tips and information on this board. It appears you are a "details" guy. So, I will do an information dump. Probably more than you ever wanted to know.
Criminals use Burundanga (pronounced boor-oon-DAN-ga) in food or drink to hundreds of unwitting victims each month.
Burundanga is odorless, colorless and soluble. So it is very easy to mix with food or drink.
In Spanish, victims of this drug are described as Burundanguiado. In one common scenario, a person will be offered a soda or drink laced with the substance.
The next thing the person remembers is waking up miles away, extremely groggy and with NO memory of what happened.
People soon discover that they have handed over jewelry, money, car keys and sometimes have even made multiple bank withdrawals for the benefit of their assailants.
Because Burundanga is often given at seedy bars or sex clubs, many victims are reluctant to come forward.
Not all cases of Burundanga involve theft or robbery. Sometimes victims have been used as mules to carry cocaine. The following incident happened 10+ years ago:
A well known Colombian diplomat disappeared shortly after leaving a function in Bogota, only to reappear in Chile under arrest for cocaine smuggling. Medical tests showed he had been under the influence of Burundanga, and no criminal charges were filed.
It is like a chemical hypnotism. The victim cannot say no; he has no will and becomes very open to suggestion.
Your next question will be - What the hell is Burundanga??
Burundanga is a kind of Colombian voodoo powder obtained from a common local plant, a shrub called borrachera or "drunken binge".
When refined, the powder yields scopolamine, a well known drug with legitimate use as a sedative and to combat motion sickness.
However, in Colombia, the drug's most avid fans are criminals. Street thugs mix the powder with sedatives and feed the Burundanga cocktail to unsuspecting victims whom they proceed to rob or even worse.
You can read this article dated April 2013. All the tips in this article have been shared by other members in this forum. Forwarned is forearmed:
https://thecitypaperbogota.com/living/burundanga-bad-medicine/3129
If the URL is cut off, Google Burundanga: bad medicine
Good Luck,
~BKKguru.
So I'm glad I've done a lot of research and asked a lot! If not, I wouldn't know that if I want to visit private apartments there I'll have to use a taxi app, apparently hailing taxis isn't safe, the TransMilenio isn't safe (especially at night), checking your phone map outside while trying to find a chicas apartment isn't safe, dressing slightly differently isn't safe, as is wearing a watch etc, you have to watch your drinks being spiked, and according to you, there's more chance of being mugged in the best areas than the crappy ones. Where does it end?? Doesn't help to be suddenly getting all this info from either in the last 4 days before my flight!! Anyway, I asked you a couple of times politely to not bother trying to 'help me', but you just carry on regardless !Dude, Dig yourself a bunker in your home and lock yourself in there permanently if you are this paranoid. Seems pointless venturing into this forum with such 'bubble life' mentality.
You can't go around living life in fear... You have to go outside. And with going outside, shit is subject to happen. Such is life.
Well said sir!
The only problem is I'm starting my stay at a hotel downtown near Santa Fe, so if I want my first experience of the City to be in the north, I'll have to take the transmilenio or taxi there for the first few days.We all have different backgrounds, personal experiences and personalities. Some people on the board might have suggested you to go to a hotel close to Santa Fe because it is OK for them. It s OK for them because they are used to travel in third world countries, speak spanish, are adventurous and so on. But as far as I can see from your previous posts, a hotel close to sante Fe is not for you. I would suggest you to cancel your reservation and get a hotel in the Northern Area. Your travel experience will be much better. I have lived and travelled in more than 80 countries in the 5 continents, including each country of the top ten most dagerous countries of the world, I live in Colombia for five year, I have been in any corner of the country, but I would never stay in a hotel close to Sante Fe just to save a couple of bucks.
.............In Spanish, victims of this drug are described as Burundan guiado................Is this the reason for Venezuela's problems right now? BTW, when I was in Chang Ping, China some years ago a Chinese girl told me about criminals who were using a drug that had the same effects as what you have described.
Is this the reason for Venezuela's problems right now? BTW, when I was in Chang Ping, China some years ago a Chinese girl told me about criminals who were using a drug that had the same effects as what you have described.It's basically the same as any of the date [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) drugs. You can find them being used anywhere. A girl I know had someone slip something into her drink at a dinky local bar, where she's a regular, in a little Indiana farm town. In her case, her son was in the bar, noticed her behavior had changed and took her home, where she slept for 14 hours.
It happens. It's possible to minimize your risks. I tend to not worry about it.
Is this the reason for Venezuela's problems right now?Funny :) Hopefully, Guiado will be a savior for Venezuela.
BTW, when I was in Chang Ping, China some years ago a Chinese girl told me about criminals who were using a drug that had the same effects as what you have described.Burundanga powder when ingested causes victims to lose their will and memory, sometimes for days.
Thus, from a criminal point of view, it has a lot of advantages.
Previously, I was doing some "business" with the US Embassy in Bogota. They take this issue VERY seriously.
In their orientation manual for freshman diplomats, there is a warning: Never visit bars or nightclubs alone.
The manual says: "Druggings in group situations are far LESS common. Food and drinks should NEVER be left unattended".
I try to be helpful because others, including Mr Enternational, have helped me. Often they've helped me by telling me "dude, you're over thinking it. Just go."
My upbringing is 180° out from Mr. E. I'm a white guy from a farm town. We didn't have crime. I never had a key to the house I grew up in, because it was never locked, day or night, not even when we were all gone for several days. The only people I was afraid of were black guys from the ghetto, not that we had any of them around, or any ghettos either.
What's lacking here is a matter of perspective. Bogota is a city of over 10 million. It has a very high population density. Crime rates and population density go together. However, contrary to what some might say, most crimes happen in the poorest areas.
The typical criminal isn't among the intellectual elite. They are opportunists. Who is some poor working girl going to call when some guy snatches her phone? Nobody. She has no phone. Even the murders in the Estrato 1 and 2 barrios don't make the news, unless they're particularly gruesome, or involve a tourist or someone with money.
The crimes you hear about are the ones that happen to tourists. Then other potential tourists repeat the stories and it seems like a death sentence to visit. It isn't.
My first big city experience was a drunken night in Milwaukee, where I ended up in a black ghetto bar, surrounded by black guys from the ghetto. Apparently, they aren't all that dangerous, because I survived. My perspective changed.
When I've been to Bogota, I've preferred to stay north. I also prefer to use the Transmilenio. I usually don't stay out very late at night, so I've not needed taxis. When I do use a taxi, I either go to a place where many taxis are staged, or I use an app to send for a taxi. Whenever feasible, I prefer to walk.
Walking lets me get a feel for the city, the culture and the people. At a whim, I can stop in a store and look around, or stop someone and ask a question. There are bars, coffee shops and restaurants. My opinion is why travel if all you'll see is a hotel room, a taxi and the inside of a brothel? Others feel any time not spent having sex is wasted.
I'm a firm believer in doing your research. I did enough research on Bogota before my first visit, I was able to recommend restaurants to people who had lived there for years. However, no research will tell you how you'll feel once you're there.
There are plenty of things written about reducing your risk. Pay attention to them. You don't need a wristwatch, rings, necklaces or earrings. Why wear them? You don't need an iPhone X. If you're there for a month, pick up a Huawei and carry it. Or bring a cheap phone to use. You don't need a wallet. Replacing all the things in your wallet is a pain. This is all about minimizing your losses. If someone wants your money and phone, you're handing over $100-$200 USD. Give it up and get out of the area.
After minimizing losses comes minimizing risks. Leaving the jewelry at home and dressing normal is a start. Everyone knows your a tourist, but nobody knows if you're a rich tourist or a poor tourist. It really doesn't matter what shirt you wear, unless you're into designer clothes. Dress comfortable, which in Bogota means you might want long sleeves, or a jacket.
I'm convinced that the biggest part of not being a victim is not looking like a victim. If you're stopping every 20 yards looking at addresses, or checking your map, you look like a victim. If you're constantly turning in all directions trying to figure out which of the 1000 people on the street are the criminals, you look like a victim. If you look like you're going to run away screaming if someone taps you on the shoulder, you look like a victim.
Move with the flow of people. Move too fast or too slow and you stand out. Know where you're going, even if you're lost. Find a business you can step inside to check your map. Remember where the busy streets were, in case you find yourself on a street that makes you nervous. That way you know which way to turn to get back to more comfortable streets. If you're feeling overwhelmed, step inside a business and relax.
Take all advice with a grain of salt. Don't base your perspective on what other people write.
My first trip to Bogota I was about where you are. I'd made my plans, booked my flight, prepaid my hotel and was reading all the horror stories. Then I saw a review of my hotel. According to the review it was in a very dangerous area, full of criminals, it was a complete dump and all the staff were very rude and insulting. Meanwhile, my Bogota friend keeps telling me about all the things I should be wary of. I was quite nervous the final week.
Judging the area my hotel was in by a 5 star area in a top western city, it may have appeared to be a dangerous area. There was a lot of construction in the area, which didn't help. The staff were extremely friendly and helpful, the area was safe and I ended up enjoying my stay.
Just relax. Spend your first day or so seeing the sights in La Candelaria. Visit the museums, enjoy the architecture, ride to the top of Monserrate. Get comfortable with the surroundings. It'll all seem less scary after you've walked around a bit.
We all have different backgrounds, personal experiences and personalities. Some people on the board might have suggested you to go to a hotel close to Santa Fe because it is OK for them. It s OK for them because they are used to travel in third world countries, speak spanish, are adventurous and so on. But as far as I can see from your previous posts, a hotel close to sante Fe is not for you. I would suggest you to cancel your reservation and get a hotel in the Northern Area. Your travel experience will be much better. I have lived and travelled in more than 80 countries in the 5 continents, including each country of the top ten most dagerous countries of the world, I live in Colombia for five year, I have been in any corner of the country, but I would never stay in a hotel close to Sante Fe just to save a couple of bucks.Hi Routard, I sent you a PM yon this subject, please have a quick look when you have a chance.
Thanks to all you guys who have given me useful advice, and I know I've asked too many questions.
I wouldn't think twice about going to Medellin or Cartagena for example, and wouldn't ask so much about safety. But Bogota seems very different, and doesn't get many tourists. I'm certainly not risk averse, have been to many parts of the world and have given my advice about them here.
I've got a bit defensive though here as a few posters just seem to like making you paranoid and confusing you. For example BlueCar's story about the 'Paseo Millionaria' when according to Jjbee62 this hasn't happened for years in Bogota, and there was no need to even mention it, as it hadn't even happened to his friend! Then today BKKguru giving me a detailed explanation of how people would spike your drinks or food, doesn't tell you how to avoid this happening, just makes you more paranoid about buying a drink / food etc!
I'll come to Bogota and stay at the hotel for a few days. If I don't feel I can do the kind of trip I want to, I'll go somewhere else in Colombia after that and not bother with my Airbnb. It is supposed to be a vacation after all! I'm also a very sociable guy when not mongering, so won't enjoy it either if have to constantly fly under the radar and not be myself. I generally do my mongering solo though, going around to nightclubs in taxis with a gang of other guys is not my scene. So if I feel too limited by the cultural norms, poverty, implied or real dangers there, Bogota will not be the place for me.
A tragedy in Santa Marta. Pasting this from the Santa Marta forum so that it gets wider exposure. Post # 340.
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Usually Hear About This Type Of Stuff In Medellin. Be Careful Guys.
http://www.hoydiariodelmagdalena.com...IZv0 yjBujBgo3 A.
In a painful event that has caused consternation in the city and which is the subject of investigation by the authorities, a young man was found dead in the rooms of the Hotel Panamerican Historical Center of Santa Marta.
The victim was the young business administrator Fernando Jos theaz Camargo, 33, graduated from Sergio Arboleda University, and son of the deceased merchant Gustavo theaz Segovia and Miryan Camargo de theaz.
The tragedy that today mourns the Diaz Camargo family was presented yesterday at 1:45 on Saturday afternoon, after his brothers found him unconscious in one of the rooms of the hotel located in Race 1 No. 18-23, where he also resided, and he was transferred to the emergency room of the El Prado clinic, where the doctors in turn indicated that he had no vital signs and formalized his death.
It was learned that the previous night Fernando Jos was chatting with some women, and apparently they gave him scopolamine and stole several belongings, including his high-end cell phone, wallet and other objects.
When his brothers noticed the time, it was strange why Fernando Jos had not woken up, so they immediately entered his room and found him dead; However, hoping to try to save his life and know what happened to him, he was taken to the medical center where he was informed that he had died hours before.
For their part, investigators from the CTI of the Prosecutor's Office and the SIJIN are already in charge of the case, to try to establish the motives, and find those responsible for this crime.
The Police reported that they are reviewing the hotel security cameras as well as the adjacent sectors in order to find evidence of the people accompanying the victim.
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Hey man I think I remember you from the Santo Domingo board. It's safer in the DR but the chicas are trickier. In Colombia you'll find it's the other way around. I don't think you'll have any problems, stop worrying!
Yes by mezzanine I mean the office building in the north with the multiple massage parlors. There I sessioned with a cute university student whom I later brought back to my hotel.
The bike tour that I joined took us through Santa Fe. The guide explained the place to us, told us to look just don't take any photos. You can get a feel that way. But be warned: during the day the ones standing on the streets are mainly trannies or fatties. No way do they represent the talent working at night inside the clubs. Your jaw will drop when you see the chicas inside Club Paisas at night.
I would advise against preparagos. Most ad photos are bait and switches. And their prices are high.
During the day in Chapinero guys will hand out flyers (business cards) advertising for casas. They're legit. You'll learn a lot of places that way. Since you are there for a month, trust me by week 2 you'll be teaching us new places.
There are also quite many swinger clubs in Bogota - - I haven't tried those. They promote themselves on Instagram and some allow for single male visitors. Try them out too!
Finally, worst case scenario -- since you're there for a month - - if Bogota doesn't work for you, heck for $50 you can get roundtrip tickets to Medelln or Cali or Cartagena!Parkinsons, thanks a lot for your advice! A good way to avoid the prepagados being bait and switch is to google their phone numbers and see if they have any reviews, multiple chicas with same number etc. Over the years I've got pretty good at telling the real from the fake ones. After all the stuff written here recently, I'm more worried about the chances of me being ripped off etc at some chicas pad (here I go again!) It's also a pity that many nice looking ones are in outlying areas that there's no chance I will venture to. That's why I asked about daytime hotels where I could arrange to meet them, any idea where to find them ?
I've been told that nightclub chicas tend to be the skinny Barbie doll types, who are not my type! I can find more curvy types online, and have also been told more like that can be found in Santa Fe. Plus casa chicas also seem to be the skinny types (from the ones I've seen on online ads for them anyway). LOL....Swinger clubs are not my scene at all !
At the time it was recommended to either have someone call a taxi, or to use a taxi app. That way there's a record of the taxi number.
There are other things that are recommended. Don't carry a wallet. I only carry an ID, my room or apartment key and the cash I need for the day. I typically only carry my ATM card when I'm going to make a withdrawal. The only other thing is my phone. If I'm carrying more than 300 k, I'll split it between 2 pockets Aparently, Tappsi had merged with Easy Taxi in Bogota, does somebody know the correct App to use, the only one I can find is called 'Easy Tappsi', just be be on the safe side.
By they way, if the place you're staying at doesn't have a safe, what can you do? If you don't carry your bank cards, ID etc you have to leave them somewhere? In that case you have no real security for your items.
On Friday around 8 PM I went to Pussyhouse. My first time there. The place was packed. Lots of men standing around. I did not see anything good there so left after few minutes and took another taxi to club la 49. I arrived around 8:30 PM and I was the only guy besides the waiters. There were 15+ girls. All very well dressed, clean and very pretty. The quality was very good, I would rate them between 7 - 9. I ordered a Heineken beer and sat toward the back (cost 16 k). Girls started to move closer and sat closer to me but none said a single word. There was no pressure which I was looking for. Within another 30 minutes, at least another 10 girls came in to start their shift. They all were very young and very attractive. I invited one of them to my table and talked a bit. Asked her how girls make money with no customer. She said many of the girls may go home empty handed. The cost for this place is 300 k for the girl, 60 k for the room and plus you have to buy a drink. The drink is mandatory and will cost another 140 k. The rooms are in the basement and small but decent with shower and bathroom. I decided to give this place a try due to cleanliness and the quality of the girls. She was from Barranquilla and 100% GFE. Overall this place is top quality if you are willing to pay a very high price. Not sure if I will go back again due to its price. There is a bar right next door and as I was leaving the la 49, the guy at the door asked me to check it out and I did. If I understood correctly, the place is called 'la fuente', Carrera 13 #49-67, beer cost 5 k, girls will ask 70 k - 80 k and the room cost 20 k. I walked in just to check and was surprised this place was packed. It is a small place, girls are definitely not in the same category as the la 49 but I think this place has some potential. I may check it again.
Mr Enternational
02-25-19, 02:13
I wouldn't think twice about going to Medellin or Cartagena for example, and wouldn't ask so much about safety. But Bogota seems very different, and doesn't get many tourists.LOL. I don't understand why you think Medellin would be any different. Maybe you have not been reading the thread over there. But if there is any difference, then I would say the ones in Bogota wake up after being drugged or kidnapped, while the ones in Medellin are left for dead.
I even posted an article in that thread the week before last that I found in my local newspaper about a pop singer from my city being killed in Medellin. Some guys were robbing someone in the "good" neighborhood where all the gringos stay. A security guard intervened. The guy was killed by a stray bullet. You can run, but your best bet is to hide. Stay home before it is too late!
Mr Enternational
02-25-19, 02:21
I arrived around 8:30 PM and I was the only guy besides the waiters.Sure sign of a clip joint.
I invited one of them to my table and talked a bit. Asked her how girls make money with no customer. She said many of the girls may go home empty handed. The cost for this place is 300 k for the girl, 60 k for the room and plus you have to buy a drink. The drink is mandatory and will cost another 140 k.You could have answered that question yourself. They wait for one unsuspecting guy to spend 500K in the place, then they all split the money!
Simple math. You go to a casa and a chick gets paid half of what you paid. So say basic casa is 50K. Girl gets 25K from each guy she fucks. In case of the place where you went, EACH girl gets 25K from any guy that ANY of the girls fuck. Same money, less work. When you start seeing them hoes driving around in drop top Benzes, that is when you can believe all of that 300K is going into their pockets.
The Tall Man
02-25-19, 03:00
On Friday around 8 PM I went to Pussyhouse. My first time there. The place was packed. Lots of men standing around. I did not see anything good there so left after few minutes and took another taxi to club la 49. I arrived around 8:30 PM and I was the only guy besides the waiters. There were 15+ girls. All very well dressed, clean and very pretty. The quality was very good, I would rate them between 7 - 9. I ordered a Heineken beer and sat toward the back (cost 16 k). Girls started to move closer and sat closer to me but none said a single word. There was no pressure which I was looking for. Within another 30 minutes, at least another 10 girls came in to start their shift. They all were very young and very attractive. I invited one of them to my table and talked a bit. Asked her how girls make money with no customer. She said many of the girls may go home empty handed. The cost for this place is 300 k for the girl, 60 k for the room and plus you have to buy a drink. The drink is mandatory and will cost another 140 k. The rooms are in the basement and small but decent with shower and bathroom. I decided to give this place a try due to cleanliness and the quality of the girls. She was from Barranquilla and 100% GFE. Overall this place is top quality if you are willing to pay a very high price. Not sure if I will go back again due to its price. There is a bar right next door and as I was leaving the la 49, the guy at the door asked me to check it out and I did. If I understood correctly, the place is called 'la fuente', Carrera 13 #49-67, beer cost 5 k, girls will ask 70 k - 80 k and the room cost 20 k. I walked in just to check and was surprised this place was packed. It is a small place, girls are definitely not in the same category as the la 49 but I think this place has some potential. I may check it again.We all have different sized wallets and my wallet size has indeed changed, I should say got cut in about half in the past decade, I have spent big on 9's and 10's in the past but also have spent a quater of that on much less physically attractive girls, but the good part is that the experience and the memories are about the same, sure not every chica was an 8 in fact some were what one would consider a 6 or 7 and yet I still today despite my wallet being a quarter of what it once was am having a blast.
Just my 2 cents.
The Tall Man.
Simple math. You go to a casa and a chick gets paid half of what you paid. So say basic casa is 50K. Girl gets 25K from each guy she fucks. In case of the place where you went, EACH girl gets 25K from any guy that ANY of the girls fuck. Same money, less work. When you start seeing them hoes driving around in drop top Benzes, that is when you can believe all of that 300K is going into their pockets.It is possible the girl was lying of course but I really do not think they are splitting the money. The girl that I was with said I am her second customer this week. Because they charge so much even with two customer that is $600 k. Still not too bad for her.
Mr Enternational
02-25-19, 04:21
It is possible the girl was lying of course but I really do not think they are splitting the money. I don't know either, but it would make sense.
Viajando Musico
02-25-19, 05:03
Stayed for a short trip in Bogota last week. Spent most of my time in Santa Fe clubs between Troya, Atones, Paisas and Fiebre. Didn't try any street girls. I did find a gem on the street on my last trip a few months ago, and kept in touch with the girl until she left Bogota and went back to her home of Manizales. She had since disappeared.
This is my second Santa Fe trip, and I felt much more comfortable than last. I only walked the street once, and spent the rest of my time either inside one of these clubs, or with a chica I pulled from them at a motel nearby for long term. I pulled 2 girls from these clubs and repeat with one of them. The damage, first girl from Paisas club, 4 hours for 300 K. Second girl was from Atunes, 2 hrs for 200 k and repeated with her for 3 hrs for 300 k. I rate these 2 girls one at 7. 5, and the other that I repeated at 8 in appearance in. For reference, I rate most girls in Lido 7. 5 with some occasional 8's and 8. 5's. Both gave very passionate GFE. One I keep in touch with and have plans to see her again in the near future.
I also went to a few Northern clubs on 2 separate nights. Spent one entire night from 11 PM to 3 AM in Lido. Lido was my old playground, I have been here numerous times, and had pulled girls from here as well. But I haven't done than in my last few trips because girls there now are asking ridiculous prices. For the night I was there, I spent 355 K in drinks (7 cervezas, 5 for me and 2 for a chica) including taxes and service fee. One thing I want to point out, when I ask for la cuenta, the mesera told me 320 K. Then I asked to see the factura, when she brought the handwritten factura, the total became 355 k. I argued with her, and she said 320 k was not including the service fee. Even I offered to pay in cash, she wound't back down on the total amount. As I understood, some clubs in the north if you offer to pay cash, they will not charge tax, service or both. This was what happened when I went to La Masion the next night. I was not happy with the increase, so didn't tip the mesera anything. She looked pissed.
Earlier, guys were arguing about girls in Santa Fe and in Northern club like Lido, well, this is what happened to me, while in Lido, I ran into 2 girls that I met and chatted with the night before at Troya in Santa Fe. They were a little surprised seeing me in Lido, same was I. I talked to them again, and of course the question came up why. They told me for the higher price they can get in Lido. I didn't see them got picked that night when I left close to 3 AM, but there are definitely girls work at both places and charge very differently. As I said before, there are more high end girls in Lido, but it's not difficult to find girls of same physical quality in SF and pay a lot less if you don't mind the area.
I also went to Juan Pablo Zhivago. The place was dead. I was the only customer, for the 30 min. I stayed with about 8 girls. Nothing above 7. 5. I then went to Lalo a few block south on Carrera 15, same story. A tout found me as I stepped out of Lalo, and took me to La Mansion nearby. La Mansion had about 30 girls that night, mostly 6-7's, with a few 7. 5's and a couple 8's. I was chatting with one of the 8's, a cute Venezolana but 10 min. Into our conversation, she got pulled away by a guy that chatted with her before I came in. I never saw her again, so I guessed it was an all-nighter, but did get her digits before she left.
I felt a lot more relaxed in La Masion (I believed it was called la Piscina del Norte). It was not as high end as Lido, but very easy going. I danced the whole night with the girls there, and politely declined to buy drinks for the girls except who danced the most songs with me. Also tipped her 50 k at my departure. No hard feeling or pressure at all. I also saw girls handed out their contact info freely with no hesitation, so apparently the club doesn't care. My bill at the end came out to be 98 K (one water for me and 2 Baileys for the girl) with no tax or service fee when I told them I will pay in cash, a lot more economical then in Lido.
After this trip, I felt that Lido is a total waste of time. Drinks are expensive, and I got better services at much lower prices in the South. I will go back to La Masion, I found it fun, and got the feeling that even the more beautiful girls there will be more reasonable if you meet them outside.
I did not get kidnapped.Aren't you black? Just curious, do you know of any black guys who are not high profile who have been kidnapped? It must happen on occasion, but I've never heard of it happening. Our company tries to send black guys to the areas where kidnapping occurs because they are perceived to be far less of a kidnapping risk. When our company sends white guys to those "dangerous" areas, they have to provide security for them because they have had them kidnapped in the past. I'm a white guy, and when I went to Nigeria, I was fine in Lagos, but when I went to an area outside Lagos that had many kidnappings in the past, they provided an armed guard for me at all times. I would have preferred to not have that guy with me all the time because it was a pain in the ass. I traveled there with 3 black guys and they didn't have any security at all the entire time.
Dave Chapelle explains it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ASPUkkHMs
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Reading the reports it's 300 K to take a girl back to hotel (I am staying North) for a few hours, correct?
Anyone in Bogota and wants to meet next few days, PM.
I am assuming Uber is the safest way to get taxi from Santa Fe?
Been adviced these apps:
Cabify.
Beat.
Which ones are safest in addition to Uber?
You are 100% correct. On a scale of 1 to 10, Honduras would be 9 or 10. Honduras makes Bogota look like Zurich.
Sir - you are brave. I would not go to Honduras unless I have 2 bodyguards in front and 2 behind me.
I know Honduras has potential. I am curious about your experience. Do you plan to post a report in the Honduras forum?
Thanks,
BKKguru.Roatan is safe and very touristy. The rest of Honduras is another story.
KurtLuther
03-02-19, 16:50
Anyone in Bogota want to meet tonight? Went to Pussy House last night (which was pretty great) but would be good to meet some other folks.
Went out last night, a safe and busy area (lots of clubs, restaurants). Paid 20 K to enter one of the clubs with the rooftop, waste of time unless you're going with a group of locals.
There are 3 girl clubs there, the big one is Casanova, many girls and almost no customers, there is one with small pool and next one is called Disco I think, less upscale but better girls, more fun. Again, not many customers if any at all. Got a few numbers for later. Drinks are expensive (30-40 K) a beer.
Anyone up for Santa Fe. PM me, it's best not to go alone.
I visited the Platin OZ on a weekday around 10 PM. This is actually a strip club, I thought it is a regular club with girls. The place is small but clean. There was one other customer when I arrived. I saw eight girls. They seemed to be a bit pushy but luckily eight guys walked in within a minute so they left me alone. The entrance fee is 20 k, beer costs 25 k - 30 k. They have room onsite. The waiter said the girls will ask $200 k - $300 k (I am sure gringo price). I would rate the girls between 4 -7. Certainly nothing good for $350 k+ total cost.
The Linares 48 is located at Cra 13 # 48 -21, a block from la 49 club. The bar itself is very nice and clean. I was there on a Wednesday night. I only saw few older, unattractive girls. The waiter said on weekends there will be a lot more girls. Beer cost $10 k, room $20 k and $100 k / 30 minutes for the girls. The place is waste of time during the weekdays but may be different on weekends just like other clubs.
I went to the Loutron on Thursday around 3 PM. That was the biggest disappointment of all. No other customer, five girls, all unattractive to me with fake boobs. So I left the place. Whether that particular day there was no decent girl or they were not my type, I don't know. They have a nice facility though.
I spend most of my time with a Colombiana from Latincupid and that was better than going to different clubs which I don't like.
I used Uber with my Paypal account and that worked great. No need to have cash money or be concerned about overcharging.
Anyone up for Santa Fe. PM me, it's best not to go alone.I have never been to SF but would not mind to check it out but unfortunately it is too late now. May be next time.
I agree Medellin has great facebook scene and a network of girls all pimping each other, that's just great.Can someone "educate" me on how the "Facebook" scene for prepagos and freelancers of all sorts works around the world?
In other words, where on FB would I find it?
I always hear comments about it, but have no idea what these comments are referring to??
Can someone "educate" me on how the "Facebook" scene for prepagos and freelancers of all sorts works around the world?
In other words, where on FB would I find it?
I always hear comments about it, but have no idea what these comments are referring to??It's not just Facebook. Twitter, Instagram and Snapchat along with live streaming apps are being used by escorts to get their info in front of potential customers. Unfortunately, it's not as easy as just typing in a search term and having all the working girl accounts pop up.
First, you need to establish a presence. That means accounts that show some activity, preferably in the areas where you plan to monger. While active accounts aren't necessary, blank accounts will get overlooked by a lot of women who figure you're just a time waster.
Next step is to find your first girls. Do a search confined to the city you're fishing in. Some cities you won't have much luck, depending on which social media platform you're on. In Medellin, Facebook is widely used. In Bogota there are more options on Twitter. Some terms to search: prepago, masaje, erotic.
The hardest part is getting started, finding the first few girls. Once you find a few, send a friend request, or follow. Now it gets easier. I'll stick with Facebook for the rest of the explanation.
Once you start finding girls, check their friend list, if it's visible. You're looking for accounts that are either good prospects, or good fishing spots. Good prospects usually have a provocative profile picture. Good fishing accounts will be guys who don't appear to be locals.
If you can't see the friends list, look at the account. If she's posted any sexy pictures, check to see who commented, who was tagged, or who liked the picture. Whenever you find a good prospect, send a friend request. Whenever you find a good fishing account, check the friends list and look for more prospects.
Finding the first 5 girls might take you a few minutes. Finding the next 20 might take a bit longer. But eventually, it snowballs. Facebook will start recommending accounts, friends of girls will start sending requests to you and you'll easily be able to add plenty of girls each time you log in.
Here's a Twitter example in Bogota:
I searched for "prepago. " Top of the list is an account called "Veronica VIP 19 años. " Her WhatsApp number is on the account along with nude photos. Next I check her followers. I find a "Nati escort vip", "Maria Camila Duarte" and "prepago acompañante. " All with Whatsapp numbers. I also see several escort services following her. Checking all those accounts gives more girls. In about 15 minutes, I can add at least 15 numbers of options in Bogota.
I can get the same results in Medellin using Facebook. Other cities might require other social media platforms or other search terms, but the method is about the same.
Can someone "educate" me on how the "Facebook" scene for prepagos and freelancers of all sorts works around the world?
In other words, where on FB would I find it?
I always hear comments about it, but have no idea what these comments are referring to??I haven't noticed a lot of Bogota babes on Facebook (there are some). They definitely are on Twitter. Medellin girls are on Facebook en mass.
Went to Lido last night, best I've seen in Colombia so far. It's in the North of Bogota, close to Park 93 street area. Amazing selection on Saturday at 2 AM, I'd say easily 80 top notch girls, huge space, feels like you're in a club in Miami it's so posh. Girls are pretty, all very well dressed, high-end. Beers are 50 K. I understood the girl fee is 250 K + a girl asked for USD $250 all night. I managed to get couple of numbers, keep in mind some girls said not allowed to give numbers. I didn't ask girl drink prices, I imagine it's double. Great place if you've got 300-500 bucks to burn on a night. Anyone else had other experiences? I am yet to visit Santa Fe, this place is a complete opposite.
In Zona T as I mentioned there are several clubs, last night visited El Padrino (about 20 girls) and a larger selection is at Club Olimpo. Street hustlers will find it for you whether you like it or not.
Hotel Dann Norte: awesome. They took girl's ID and then phoned me when she was leaving if everything was ok. Highly recommend this hotel.
Earlier, guys were arguing about girls in Santa Fe and in Northern club like Lido, well, this is what happened to me, while in Lido, I ran into 2 girls that I met and chatted with the night before at Troya in Santa Fe. They were a little surprised seeing me in Lido, same was I. I talked to them again, and of course the question came up why. They told me for the higher price they can get in Lido. I didn't see them got picked that night when I left close to 3 AM, but there are definitely girls work at both places and charge very differently. As I said before, there are more high end girls in Lido, but it's not difficult to find girls of same physical quality in SF and pay a lot less if you don't mind the area..Read your post about Lido after I posted mine. I guess there is a price you pay for safety factor, but then again these are some crazy prices I've been quoted last night.
Went to Lido last night, best I've seen in Colombia so far. It's in the North of Bogota, close to Park 93 street area. Amazing selection on Saturday at 2 AM, I'd say easily 80 top notch girls, huge space, feels like you're in a club in Miami it's so posh. Girls are pretty, all very well dressed, high-end. Beers are 50 K. I understood the girl fee is 250 K + a girl asked for USD $250 all night. I managed to get couple of numbers, keep in mind some girls said not allowed to give numbers. I didn't ask girl drink prices, I imagine it's double. Great place if you've got 300-500 bucks to burn on a night. Anyone else had other experiences? I am yet to visit Santa Fe, this place is a complete opposite....Actually No, Santa Fe is not the complete opposite sounds like a bit of a shill going on here.
There Are Super hot girls, Actually many of them work at Lido too.
The Tall Man
03-05-19, 13:19
Went to Lido last night, best I've seen in Colombia so far. It's in the North of Bogota, close to Park 93 street area. Amazing selection on Saturday at 2 AM, I'd say easily 80 top notch girls, huge space, feels like you're in a club in Miami it's so posh. Girls are pretty, all very well dressed, high-end. Beers are 50 K. I understood the girl fee is 250 K + a girl asked for USD $250 all night. I managed to get couple of numbers, keep in mind some girls said not allowed to give numbers. I didn't ask girl drink prices, I imagine it's double. Great place if you've got 300-500 bucks to burn on a night. Anyone else had other experiences? I am yet to visit Santa Fe, this place is a complete opposite.
In Zona T as I mentioned there are several clubs, last night visited El Padrino (about 20 girls) and a larger selection is at Club Olimpo. Street hustlers will find it for you whether you like it or not.
Hotel Dann Norte: awesome. They took girl's ID and then phoned me when she was leaving if everything was ok. Highly recommend this hotel.
Actually No, Santa Fe is not the complete opposite sounds like a bit of a shill going on here.
There Are Super hot girls, Actually many of them work at Lido too.Woodman, got to agree a complete shill, yes I partied in that area about 10 years ago but the prices now are stupid and as you point out it is all about marketing, you can take any of the Sante Fe cuties, like the ones you saw me partying with last October when we met in Sante Fe, put a nice sexy dress on them with some nice high heel shoes along with a hair do and make up an then BAM they now are the 9 and 10 at places like Lido, no shit.
The Tall Man.
I know all the cool guys go hunting in the clubs, clinicas, and barrios, but if you happened to have more money than time. Does anyone have experience with agencies? I have been looking at La Celestina for an upcoming trip. I don't see much in the last 10 pages. Many thanks.
Bango Cheito
03-06-19, 13:02
Thanks guys for your advice! The only problem is I'm starting my stay at a hotel downtown near Santa Fe, so if I want my first experience of the City to be in the north, I'll have to take the transmilenio or taxi there for the first few days. Parkinsons, that's a great suggestion re. the biking tour, as I'm into cycling anyway. Have already checked it out, I won't let this worry get me down. Anyway, if I don't like Bogota I can go elsewhere. I'm planning on staying a month in Colombia after all. Actually, will be staying in an Airbnb after my hotel, won't want to bring a chica back there. That's why I asked where the daytime motels (with hourly rates) etc are in Chapinero, but nobody answered me on that. Any ideas? By Mezzanine, you mean the chica joint that has been mentioned earlier?All around Cll 64 west of Av Caracas there are tons of great options for hourly motels.
Bango Cheito
03-06-19, 13:13
Thanks to all you guys who have given me useful advice, and I know I've asked too many questions.
I wouldn't think twice about going to Medellin or Cartagena for example, and wouldn't ask so much about safety. But Bogota seems very different, and doesn't get many tourists. I'm certainly not risk averse, have been to many parts of the world and have given my advice about them here.
I've got a bit defensive though here as a few posters just seem to like making you paranoid and confusing you. For example BlueCar's story about the 'Paseo Millionaria' when according to Jjbee62 this hasn't happened for years in Bogota, and there was no need to even mention it, as it hadn't even happened to his friend! Then today BKKguru giving me a detailed explanation of how people would spike your drinks or food, doesn't tell you how to avoid this happening, just makes you more paranoid about buying a drink / food etc!
I'll come to Bogota and stay at the hotel for a few days. If I don't feel I can do the kind of trip I want to, I'll go somewhere else in Colombia after that and not bother with my Airbnb. It is supposed to be a vacation after all! I'm also a very sociable guy when not mongering, so won't enjoy it either if have to constantly fly under the radar and not be myself. I generally do my mongering solo though, going around to nightclubs in taxis with a gang of other guys is not my scene. So if I feel too limited by the cultural norms, poverty, implied or real dangers there, Bogota will not be the place for me.I'm firmly on the side of Enternational and Jjbee here. I've been living here on and off for a decade and a half now. Those "paseos millonarios" are a thing of the past.
People spike drinks all over the planet. Just don't ever walk away from a drink and then come back to it and you'll be fine. Also don't let an unknown girl motorboat you.
Bango Cheito
03-06-19, 13:15
SEarlier, guys were arguing about girls in Santa Fe and in Northern club like Lido, well, this is what happened to me, while in Lido, I ran into 2 girls that I met and chatted with the night before at Troya in Santa Fe. They were a little surprised seeing me in Lido, same was I. I talked to them again, and of course the question came up why. They told me for the higher price they can get in Lido. I didn't see them got picked that night when I left close to 3 AM, but there are definitely girls work at both places and charge very differently. As I said before, there are more high end girls in Lido, but it's not difficult to find girls of same physical quality in SF and pay a lot less if you don't mind the area.THIS! PLEASE pay attention people! Stop overpaying in those clip joints in the north. ALL of these girls, and I mean ALL of them, work Chapinero and downtown as well, for that sure money. ALL. OF. THEM.
Bango Cheito
03-06-19, 13:21
It's OK if you feel confortable in the poorer area of Bogota. I apreciate both, but for first timers, south is definitvely not to recommend untel they get used with the city. True, shit can happen everywhere, and thiefes are everywhere. But in the northern areas there is much more protection. I live in the north because of safety. South, the houses and apartments are robbed anytime, while north any building has a 24 hours safety guard. There are more cameras, more police and everywhere there are private body guards you probably never had noticed as they are discrete. Once a guy robbed the cellphone of my girl friend from the open window of the car while she was waiting at the traffic light at 200m from where we live. From the car behind her, came out three armed bodyguards showing their gun and asking the guy to give the cellphone back. Last month I was having a coffee at my favorite terras. Suddenly someone yelled for a thief in the street. In couple of no time the thief was on the ground with several bodyguards on him. This will not happen in the south.Have to respectfully disagree.
I talk it you don't come down here much. They have the same "logistica" companies handling security that they have anywhere else in the city, with the same level of service. I don't know what would make you think different.
And from personal experience, I don't live in conjuntos anymore and one of the main reasons is that those security people are SHADY, and not to be trusted. They are often the first people to be accomplices to theft. I prefer houses. And trust me, they get robbed MORE in the north than in the south.
A relative of mine was visiting and he was here in the south for two weeks, no problems. Goes to the Dann Norte for the last week because he wanted nicer lodging. In that week he witnessed a store being robbed right in front of him. For some reason they left him alone, though.
The T is the WORST place in Bogota to go if you're worried about safety. That's the epicenter of people getting something slipped in their drinks. You'd be safer as a solo adventurer in Bosa or Soacha than in the T (and people will be a hell of a lot friendlier, guaranteed no English though).
... That's why I asked about daytime hotels where I could arrange to meet them, any idea where to find them ? !There's several great Love motels in Chapinero around 63rd st west of Caracas. Many with theme rooms, Dandy is really nice.
Here is another http://www.amartesuite.com/.
MamalaPenga
03-06-19, 19:43
I'll be in Bogota for some down time next month. Would any fellow mongerers care to meet up?
Can someone share some info for this place Gisell Barra Dance calle 58 Bis crr 10.
Thanks.
Hey guys, I've been in Bogota for a week now and glad to say I'm alive and kicking. Arrived with a bit of a nasty cold, probably from running around so much and getting stressed out before my trip. Thanks to those who tried to make me paranoid with the 'Passeo Millonario' stories, which probably didn't help either!
Has probably taken me until now to feel relaxed and comfortable here. I really like the people, haven't met an unfriendly person yet, they like a laugh like me, the food is good, and there are sexy looking women all over the place! Stayed the first 4 nights at the IBIS downtown, a nice and friendly hotel. The neighborhood around there is very safe during the day at least as it's the business area, though it's a bit nondescript. Moved to a really nice Airbnb near the junction of Carrera 11 and Avenida Calle 100 a few days ago for about 40 Euro a night. Seems like an upmarket business area, at lunchtime there are loads of gorgeous women around on their lunch break. Even right in front of my apartment! Today I wandered around the food court area by the World Trade centre here, never seen so many gorgeous ladies! Walking along Calle 99, going west from Carrera 11 at lunchtime was also full of talent.
Have walked a whole range of ways from here down to the area of Andino mall, and onto the Avenida de Chile Mall. I don't particularly like the Parque 93 area, or around Andino mall, too much like a snobby area back at home. Plus it's true what some people wrote that there are more hawkers there than downtown, where nobody ever bothered me whatsoever! Still, the hawkers / beggers uptown just try to get your attention, they don't do more than that.
On the downside, the pollution here is pretty bad, the pavements are a disaster. You have to really concentrate walking along them to not fall in some stupid hole and wreck your vacation! Same goes for the cliff edge drops from the pavements to the streets. I think the altitude has definitely affected me, I get tired much quicker when walking, also affects your concentration re. the sidewalks / not getting run down when crossing the road etc. Today my cold was finally a lot better and I seemed to have got more used to the altitude.
After all my questions and worries, I haven't had any issues regarding security (!?). Hardly anyone has even looked twice at me. But maybe that's also because I came so prepared. Plus I haven't walked anywhere late at night. I'm wearing jeans, crappy sneakers, a windbreaker and a cheap watch. The only downside of looking like a peasant, is that you're not going to attract the attention of any gorgeous women (in cafes / shops etc), are you? Maybe one day I'll dress smart and just hang out around here and see if I get lucky? I have been guilty of looking at my phone in the street a few times, but try to avoid doing it.
I must admit I was a bit paranoid my first few days here! It's good to research but maybe I overdid it, because I was scared of my own shadow the first time I walked out of my hotel. Now I walk all over the place in the daytime, and don't really feel nervous at all. Though if I start walking down an empty residential street, even in a good area say between where I'm staying and the Andino mall area, I will change to a busier street. I like walking down Carerra 15 as far down as Calle 65 (where the daytime motels are). The area has some life to it and it's not pretentious like around Andino mall / Parque 93. I'm not into malls by the way, but they're a good place to get your bearings, have a break, feel safe etc.
An alternative method to navigate the city which would be fun at least, is just to follow a sexy ass you see when you're out. Don't worry, this will definitely happen! Keep following the ass in question until A) You come to a street corner, then follow another sexy ass walking in another direction OR B) You just see an even sexier ass wherever you come across it and decide to follow that one. I can't guarantee that you'll end up anywhere useful but you should have fun in the meantime! Disclaimer, if you end up in the wrong part of town, don't blame me!
The first day I didn't do any mongering and just hung around the centre. On my second day I contacted a very curvy mulatta by Whatsapp, who I've been dying to shag for weeks. She sent me her details and address straight away, working out of hotel Paraiso on Calle 65, just off Carrera 14. Paid her 130,000 including oral without condom, plus had to pay the reception another 10,000. She was as good looking as her photos, but I was pretty jetlagged and it wasn't particularly memorable. Not a bad or a great first experience in Bogota. From there I walked to the Avenida Chile mall as it was my first venture into this area, and felt a bit uncomfortable walking around the streets there. I've contacted quite a few online chicas via Whatsapp, and most replied straight away, though most just sent generic replies and didn't answer specific questions (such as if they did oral without condom), until I prompted them again. By the way, several of them work at that same hotel, and as some of you have mentioned here, there are lots of similar daytime motels in the surrounding streets.
On my third day in the hotel, I woke up feeling relaxed, so decided to put on my BIG BOY PANTS (copyright Mr Enternational) and walk down to Santa Fe. By the time I got closer though I was feeling pretty nervous, It was midday on Saturday, so maybe not the best time for a lot of choice of chicas? But the selection on the street was actually pretty desperate! Looked more like a scene from the Star Wars bar and I couldn't get out of the place fast enough! Must have only seen about 15 chicas on the streets there. I think for me to take a chica to a room there, she would have to be pretty stunning, so uncomfortable as I felt in the place. Quite ironic that it was because of a video posted on youtube of the area that I wanted to come to Bogota in the first place! The area seemed much tidier and the chicas were way better looking on those videos!? Apparently, this video is from 2008 though? Still, I'm very glad I came to the city and it doesn't really bother me if I don't have any fun in Santa Fe. Maybe I'll go back again another time as I know the city better now. I don't think I'll bother going there at night though, as from the impression you guys gave me, the chicas in the clubs are almost exclusively skinnies, so I would just be wasting my time and money as they're not my type. I think my mongering here will be mainly daytime.
The next day I passed by Elixir Spa, at Carrera 16 a#77-47 at around 4 pm. The first chica who greeted me was a very pretty and sexy looking blonde with enhanced tits and ass. Sadly though, her good looks weren't a precursor for what was to follow, as none of the other chicas I was shown were much to look at! I only wanted a natural BJ as I was too tired for a shag, which she said would be 150000 (same price as for sex) plus 50000 for the natural BJ!? I thought that was too much and passed. I didn't bother with any of the other massage places from online ads, as their chicas didn't look great or they got bad reviews. Elixir Spa at least gets good reviews.
The second chica I called by coincidence worked out of the same place as the first (Hotel Paraiso on Calle 65). She looked my type on her ad, curvy and pretty, however in person she was miles better. When she opened the door I thought, damn, I've really hit the jackpot here! She was around 20, big tits, curvy hips, gorgeous face, nice skin, perfect teeth, and black hair down to her ass. Really!! And I am very picky by the way! She told me she was Venezuelan. Anyway, she charged 130000 plus another 50000 for natural blowjob. She was so good, I went back again today for seconds, which is something I rarely do!
There's nothing nicer than wandering around a cool city on vacation, after a good shag, feeling relaxed and in a good mood! I would hate to live here and never get laid, can you imagine how frustrating that would be with so much talent around!? So far that's all the mongering I've got up t in 6 days. A nasty cold, the altitude and some stomach problems haven't helped.
The first few days I had lots of transport issues. My hotel called me a regular taxi to go to Parque 93, from Taxi libre. The trip was fine, but on the way back I had to call them twice, it was totally over complicated, the first guy didn't show up, then the guy who finally came drove like a psycho in a little wreck with a broken seatbelt back to my hotel half way up the mountains along Carrera 1 / Diagonal. Another time, I stopped for a break at a bistro and asked them to call me a taxi. The chef had just stopped his shift and was an Uber driver. So by default I used Uber for the first time then. Finally got my act together the next day and registered with Uber. For my first ever Uber trip, the driver was a novice and I was to be his first passenger!? No thanks. I cancelled! But since then have used it a few times, and have to agree it's easily the best way to get about this city, cheap and safe!
Getting a Claro SIM card was easy, works fine but a pre-paid package only lasts for 15 days, then you have to renew it. Plus, I keep getting messages warning me that my phone will be blocked unless I register it, as other posters have warned about here. I tried to register it, and they also tried in the Claro shop with no luck! They now say I have to go to the head office to do it!?
Anyway, I've got 3 more days before going to the coast so hopefully I'll have some more adventures to report before then! Will probably come back to town for a few days before flying home too.
Mr Enternational
03-08-19, 05:46
Still, I'm very glad I came to the city and it doesn't really bother me if I don't have any fun in Santa Fe. Maybe I'll go back again another time as I know the city better now. I don't think I'll bother going there at night though, as from the impression you guys gave me, the chicas in the clubs are almost exclusively skinnies, so I would just be wasting my time and money as they're not my type.Here we go again. Dude. You went all that way from Europe. Go see and stop assuming things and trying to justify your assumptions. Try to go with Woodman or something if you are still afraid.
I told you from the beginning that you were overthinking everything. I am glad that you are enjoying yourself in Colombia. It is just a place with people as any other place with people on earth would be.
Here we go again. Dude. You went all that way from Europe. Go see and stop assuming things and trying to justify your assumptions. Try to go with Woodman or something if you are still afraid.
What are you talking about, nightclubs ? I realise now that I'm here that I've grown out of the nightclub scene. It's not that I'm afraid at all, where did I write that? But why spend a ton on drinks, go through all the hassle of taxis, touts and having to fob off all the ladies who don't interest me, for maybe 1 who does ? Been there and done it too much in the past. If I can find a few cuties who give me what I want in daytime places and the internet, why bother ? I don't need to see every working chica in Bogota !
Mr Enternational
03-08-19, 07:21
What are you talking about, nightclubs ? I realise now that I'm here that I've grown out of the nightclub scene. It's not that I'm afraid at all, where did I write that? But why spend a ton on drinks, go through all the hassle of taxis, touts and having to fob off all the ladies who don't interest me, for maybe 1 who does ? LOL. Like I said, justifying your assumptions. How would you know how many interest you if you have never been? Don't know where you get the idea that you have to spend a ton on drinks (I think in my last report I said I paid 8K for a beer and heck it is free to get in) and fend off touts and ladies either. Just go see the stuff. But hey, it is your trip.
P. S. I think the title nightclub in a conventional sense is a misnomer. It is just a brothel with music and naked chicks dancing on the stage. So it is more of a strip/fuck club than a night club.
Quite ironic that it was because of a video posted on youtube of the area that I wanted to come to Bogota in the first place! The area seemed much tidier and the chicas were way better looking on those videos!?You have to explore a place. Your report made it seem as if you arrived, peeked around a corner, and made haste to leave. The place is a few blocks big, so I don't think you can judge by one corner; especially when it is unknown which corner you were even on. I definitely would not consider any corner "tidy" whatever the case.
I always say a quality report contains where, when, and how much. A couple of months ago in the Medellin thread a guy asked a million questions and had a bunch of concerns same as Coupe. He went to Medellin and said what a shitty time he had. In the midst of all his concern, he forgot to ask or research the when. So he was going to casas at the time he should have been going to strip clubs, and going to strip clubs the time he should have been going to bars. He was all out of sync and wondering why places were closed or only had a couple of girls working.
When you look at a video you must remember that you don't know when they shot it and much like ISG posts you do not know the taste of the person that posted it. A million guys have talked about how they don't like Asian chicks. Then they get over here to Thailand and are like this is not what I expected. Exactly. Because experience is the best teacher and you can not go of the viewpoint that someone else put on display. You have to establish your own viewpoint by means of a thorough vetting of a place.
Mr Enternational, I've already told you why I'm not into nightclubs / stripcubs, who cares what you call them. I might go and check them out when I come back from the coast anyway, we'll see. I walked around the whole area in Santa Fe. I've been to many places in the world and have reported my experiences. I'm not apologising to you for asking a lot about Bogota. I have reported the where and when of my experiences. And like I said, I don't particularly care if the daytime scene in Santa Fe isn't what it used to be. I know what my taste in women is from personal experience. Anyway, you're just looking for negatives and I'm already bored of writing this reply!
World Travel 69
03-08-19, 15:55
You most likely will not get a reply.
I posted the site on the map two weeks ago.
It has to be a very new place.
They have a Facebook page for the one in Bucaramanga and a Twitter page.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gisell-Barra-Dance/261418867226488
Can someone share some info for this place Gisell Barra Dance calle 58 Bis crr 10.
Thanks.
Had to visit the doctor this week and was given a prescription for methylprednizone. It's a steroid anti-inflammatory drug. Besides wiping out joint and back pain, it also gives me a lot of energy. I've taken it several times in the past.
I don't know if you can get it without a prescription in Colombia. It might be worth a try to help deal with the Bogota altitude.
Had to visit the doctor this week and was given a prescription for methylprednizone. It's a steroid anti-inflammatory drug. Besides wiping out joint and back pain, it also gives me a lot of energy. I've taken it several times in the past.
I don't know if you can get it without a prescription in Colombia. It might be worth a try to help deal with the Bogota altitude.Full disclosure: not a doctor, but-.
Besides wiping out joint and back pain, steroids can fuck up your sugar levels and do other nasty shit to your internal organs. Be careful about using them when (strictly speaking) not necessary.
PolloNegro
03-09-19, 06:43
Had to visit the doctor this week and was given a prescription for methylprednizone. It's a steroid anti-inflammatory drug. Besides wiping out joint and back pain, it also gives me a lot of energy. I've taken it several times in the past.
I don't know if you can get it without a prescription in Colombia. It might be worth a try to help deal with the Bogota altitude.Is a steroid, it helps with breathing, it helps put extra cushion around your vertebrae and it lubricates your joints, its a temporary 30-45 days fix, the downside, it elevates blood sugar, weight, and can lead to osteoporosis. It will also eventually lead to a risk of COPD after your lung capacity has been reached. It also increases energy due to the increase tolerance of the respiratory capacity, use with caution, use only when necessary. Try NSAIDs, And Other Anti-inflammatory drugs with less side effects. I've never attempted to buy or retrieve steroids (methylprednisolone) in Colombia, the other drag is this: most pharmacist in Colombia don't give injections, therefore you buy the drug & syringe at the pharmacy and take the medicine to the Dr and the Dr administers it. Hope this helps. Pollo negro is out!
Full disclosure: not a doctor, but-.
Besides wiping out joint and back pain, steroids can fuck up your sugar levels and do other nasty shit to your internal organs. Be careful about using them when (strictly speaking) not necessary.I agree 100%.
In the long run, steroids will do more harm than good.
Some Doctors are quick to prescribe a steroid. Always question if there is an alternative and if the dosage can be reduced etc.
~BKKguru
Full disclosure: not a doctor, but-.
Besides wiping out joint and back pain, steroids can fuck up your sugar levels and do other nasty shit to your internal organs. Be careful about using them when (strictly speaking) not necessary.I should have added "ask your doctor for advice."
YippieKayay
03-10-19, 01:18
On my third day in the hotel, I woke up feeling relaxed, so decided to put on my BIG BOY PANTS (copyright Mr Enternational) and walk down to Santa Fe. By the time I got closer though I was feeling pretty nervous, It was midday on Saturday, so maybe not the best time for a lot of choice of chicas? But the selection on the street was actually pretty desperate! Looked more like a scene from the Star Wars bar and I couldn't get out of the place fast enough! Must have only seen about 15 chicas on the streets there. I think for me to take a chica to a room there, she would have to be pretty stunning, so uncomfortable as I felt in the place.
You're about to discover not all Colombian women are attractive or worth fucking. Also, you went to their crack town to find pussy. The barrier of entry there is very low.
The first few days I had lots of transport issues. My hotel called me a regular taxi to go to Parque 93, from Taxi libre. The trip was fine, but on the way back I had to call them twice, it was totally over complicated, the first guy didn't show up, then the guy who finally came drove like a psycho in a little wreck with a broken seatbelt back to my hotel half way up the mountains along Carrera 1 / Diagonal. Another time, I stopped for a break at a bistro and asked them to call me a taxi. The chef had just stopped his shift and was an Uber driver. So by default I used Uber for the first time then. Finally got my act together the next day and registered with Uber. For my first ever Uber trip, the driver was a novice and I was to be his first passenger!? No thanks. I cancelled! But since then have used it a few times, and have to agree it's easily the best way to get about this city, cheap and safe!
You don't need to use uber or have someone call you a taxi. You can flag them down, get in, and its metered. There's a chart you can look at and the meter is a code to the chart. If that explains it properly.
Anyway, I've got 3 more days before going to the coast so hopefully I'll have some more adventures to report before then! Will probably come back to town for a few days before flying home too.I was in Cartagena recently and its not so good right around now. Too many dudes.
OnionBootyFan
03-10-19, 02:34
I apologize if this is the wrong board, I looked for an introduction board but couldn't find one.
Anyway, I'm totally new to mongering and never been out of the country. I've read a bunch of posts trying to get an idea of what to expect. However, I was wondering if it's possible to find someone to show me the ropes when I get there, and if so where I can find someone that would be willing to do that?
Another last resort option is bringing a buddy fluent in Spanish with me. I will be traveling to Bogota in May, and will be in Colombia for 2 weeks. I'm open to traveling to other spots as well.
Thanks for your help!
Is a steroid, it helps with breathing, it helps put extra cushion around your vertebrae and it lubricates your joints, its a temporary 30-45 days fix, the downside, it elevates blood sugar, weight, and can lead to osteoporosis. It will also eventually lead to a risk of COPD after your lung capacity has been reached. It also increases energy due to the increase tolerance of the respiratory capacity, use with caution, use only when necessary. Try NSAIDs, And Other Anti-inflammatory drugs with less side effects. I've never attempted to buy or retrieve steroids (methylprednisolone) in Colombia, the other drag is this: most pharmacist in Colombia don't give injections, therefore you buy the drug & syringe at the pharmacy and take the medicine to the Dr and the Dr administers it. Hope this helps. Pollo negro is out!Methylprednizone comes in a pill, dosage pack, with decreasing dosages. My current prescription starts with 6 x 4 MG the first day, then decreases by 1 pill each day, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Same basic effects, but doesn't require an injection. Certainly isn't something I'd suggest taking long term.
I've been dealing with a back problem for almost 30 years now. Been through physical therapy, massage therapy, traction, chiropractic treatment, plus about every combination of pills imaginable. Given the choice between another 6 months of PT, 3 times a week, or taking a pill for a week, I'd rather spend $10 on the pill. Quicker results, cheaper and just as effective.
The doctors prescribed me NSAIDs for years, with no effect, unless I wanted to risk kidney damage from ridiculously high dosages. Now, about every 3 years they'll prescribe me 6 or 7 days of the steroid and I'm mostly pain free for a few years.
I was with a couple of my friends in front of Fiebre club (1 de mayo) this Saturday and then we saw a kid by himself run up to 2 or 3 guys and pointed out to everybody and yelled out "they stole my phone!" There were a lot of people around and no one paid any attention to him. He then fell down. I and my friends approached and helped him. He was stabbed twice in the ribs and once in the hamstring (leg) (They stabbed him there so he wouldn't chase them I guess). We called an ambulance and he had to remove his coat and dress shirt. Don't go to places alone and a phone is not worth your life!
I should have added "ask your doctor for advice."A few last notes on the subject.
1. I've been mixing the generic name with a brand name. The generic name is "methylprednisolone. " One of the brand names is "Prednizone. ".
2. I don't recommend anyone just go out and try random medications without doing research and consulting an expert, especially not on my recommendation.
3. Except as prescribed by a doctor, I don't recommend anyone start a daily regimen, long term, of any medication, and if recommended by a doctor I suggest checking for alternatives.
4. Some of the effects of altitude sickness (difficulty breathing, shortness of breath, dizziness, lack of energy) may possibly be reduced methylprednisolone, since it's also used as a treatment for asthma. I'm somewhat surprised one of the drug companies hasn't tried marketing it for this. Now watch. In 6 months it'll be the latest OTC sensation.
5. Where are all of you guys every time someone is suggesting getting testosterone injections in Colombia, or picking up Viagra, or Cialis without a prescription?
MamalaPenga
03-10-19, 22:18
When will you be there?
I apologize if this is the wrong board, I looked for an introduction board but couldn't find one.
Anyway, I'm totally new to mongering and never been out of the country. I've read a bunch of posts trying to get an idea of what to expect. However, I was wondering if it's possible to find someone to show me the ropes when I get there, and if so where I can find someone that would be willing to do that?
Another last resort option is bringing a buddy fluent in Spanish with me. I will be traveling to Bogota in May, and will be in Colombia for 2 weeks. I'm open to traveling to other spots as well.
Thanks for your help!
I apologize if this is the wrong board, I looked for an introduction board but couldn't find one.
Anyway, I'm totally new to mongering and never been out of the country. I've read a bunch of posts trying to get an idea of what to expect. However, I was wondering if it's possible to find someone to show me the ropes when I get there, and if so where I can find someone that would be willing to do that?
Another last resort option is bringing a buddy fluent in Spanish with me. I will be traveling to Bogota in May, and will be in Colombia for 2 weeks. I'm open to traveling to other spots as well.
Thanks for your help!Hi,
Help is available, search CraigsList Colombia for "Tour Guide Travel assistance Woodman".
I was with a couple of my friends in front of Fiebre club (1 de mayo) this Saturday and then we saw a kid by himself run up to 2 or 3 guys and pointed out to everybody and yelled out "they stole my phone!" There were a lot of people around and no one paid any attention to him. He then fell down. I and my friends approached and helped him. He was stabbed twice in the ribs and once in the hamstring (leg) (They stabbed him there so he wouldn't chase them I guess). We called an ambulance and he had to remove his coat and dress shirt. Don't go to places alone and a phone is not worth your life!I believe I uploaded the picture of the kid and it wasn't allowed? Was it to graphic for the board rules?
I was with a couple of my friends in front of Fiebre club (1 de mayo) this Saturday and then we saw a kid by himself run up to 2 or 3 guys and pointed out to everybody and yelled out "they stole my phone!" There were a lot of people around and no one paid any attention to him. He then fell down. I and my friends approached and helped him. He was stabbed twice in the ribs and once in the hamstring (leg) (They stabbed him there so he wouldn't chase them I guess). We called an ambulance and he had to remove his coat and dress shirt. Don't go to places alone and a phone is not worth your life!I'm sorry for this guy if this is what happened, but how come these things are always happening when you're around ? Last time apparently it was your friend who was robbed in Chapinero. When was this incident in front of Feibre club, day or nightime? Why was he wearing a dress shirt, was he going to a wedding? And saying before that it was a good job the thieves didn't know your friend was an American or they would have taken him on the 'Passeo Millonario' was a ridiculous thing to say, this hasn't happened for years now!
I'm sorry for this guy if this is what happened, but how come these things are always happening when you're around ? Last time apparently it was your friend who was robbed in Chapinero. When was this incident in front of Feibre club, day or nightime? Why was he wearing a dress shirt, was he going to a wedding? And saying before that it was a good job the thieves didn't know your friend was an American or they would have taken him on the 'Passeo Millonario' was a ridiculous thing to say, this hasn't happened for years now!There's a few possibilities. Some people just seem to always be at the right place at the right time to observe the wrong things. Other people like to shout "wolf."
30 years ago I took a temp job driving a wrecker in San Diego. When you spend 70-90 hours a week in big city traffic, you're more likely to see accidents happen, than if you're just spending 2 hours on a daily commute. We had one driver who would call in about some horrible accident once or twice a week, people ejected, cars in flame, scattered body parts. Every one was a wreck worthy of a Hollywood action movie.
Then one day he called to tell everyone about a car that had just exploded, huge fireball. Except this time I was about 2 miles behind him. No fireball, not even a fire. Just a car on the shoulder with a flat tire.
Not many gringos go to the Primer de Mayo area in Bogota. As the story was told, I'm not sure there is a difference between going alone or going with a group. Apparently the victim was stabbed by 3 guys with knives (once by a guy who couldn't have been over 2 feet tall, if he went for the hamstring). 3 gringos without knives vs 3 (2 1/3) Colombians with knives? I'm putting my money on the Colombians unless the gringos are all wearing knee high boots (to foil Mini-Me).
I'm curious why the guys with knives would go to the trouble to: 1. Stabbing the victim, in front of a crowd of people, over a phone; 2. Stab a guy in the hamstring to keep him from chasing them. He'd already been stabbed twice, I'm pretty sure they could have outrun him. Except for the really short guy.
There's a few possibilities. Some people just seem to always be at the right place at the right time to observe the wrong things. Other people like to shout "wolf."
30 years ago I took a temp job driving a wrecker in San Diego. When you spend 70-90 hours a week in big city traffic, you're more likely to see accidents happen, than if you're just spending 2 hours on a daily commute. We had one driver who would call in about some horrible accident once or twice a week, people ejected, cars in flame, scattered body parts. Every one was a wreck worthy of a Hollywood action movie..I have been living in Bogota for 2 1/2 months. I'm bilingual and look / pass as a Colombian and I was with my Colombian friends at that time. I see phone robberies (grab and dash) happen all the time (especially at night). But I don't see people go up to someone and threaten them with a knife because that is probably reserved when the victim is alone and no one else is around. This is the first case I have seen a stabbed person in front of so many people. What the kid told my friend (who was talking to him and helping him the most) is that he was looking at his phone that was on his hand and then one of the guys just grabbed it and he fought back, that's when the other thug stabbed him. The three thugs then just continued walking like it was nothing. They then walked more and eventually passed me and my friends (who were standing outside and waiting for my other friend to show up). That is when we witness the brave kid after getting stabbed limping back toward the guys and then point to them and shout to everyone "Look, they stole my phone! The thugs denied it and continued walking but then 10 seconds later they sprinted away. The kid then walked to the side and sat down and we helped him.
I was looking at my phone too but my Colombian friend who is from the Coast got an empty beer bottle from the ground and was ready on standby to smash it on anyone's head haha. He says the city / town where he is from linches thieves in moments like this but here in Bogota everyone just ignores them. To be fair to the people around that ignored the kid, the blood from his wounds were not noticeable under his dress shirt and jacket. Once he took the jacket off then you could see the blood. I'm still surprised by the audacity the thugs had to do that, they probably did it before and it worked and they it again and it worked. The thugs were not Colombian, they were Venezuelan.
Another comment said why was the kid wearing a dress shirt? 30-50% of the Colombians there were wearing dress shirts. For some reason, they don't link wearing a dress shirt to getting robbed so they wear what they want.
I'm posting the picture of the kid being treated by the Ambulance medic again. This time I'm going to cover his eyes and the medic's eyes.
Disclaimer: this could be Graphic as there is blood on the kid's shirt.
Bluecar, the Fiebre club is in Santa Fe, right? I walked through the area twice, it's one of the slummiest few streets I've ever wandered down, why the hell were you looking at your phones at night there and holding beer bottles, unless you're looking for trouble? I am sorry for the guy who got stabbed. Again, why was he looking at his phone? I spent 11 days in Bogota and didn't have any trouble, and didn't witness any crimes either. You and your friends must be doing something wrong, if crime keeps following you around.
Walking down a street where I can't look at my phone is safe? All for the purpose of getting some pussy!!
Mongering should be fun for the consumer not dangerous especially if you're going to a country where prostitution is legal. Lmao.
This is why Sante Fe is not worth it nor is Centro in Medellin.
I've been to Bogota 3 x and since the last time I went and saw how stupid the prices were getting at Lidos I just stopped going.
49 is definitely a fun club for a foreigner. Pussy house is not unless your Spanish is fluent.
Unless you enjoy the Sante Fe stroll Bogota really doesn't offer much for mongering. Unless you want to pay 800 k pesos for an hour with a hottie from one of the northern clubs.
OnionBootyFan
03-12-19, 07:06
When will you be there?May 9th-23rd.
15 years ago, before I visited Colombia, I had the typical naive view of Colombia like any other foreigner who has never been to Colombia: guerilla, kidnap, Pablo Escobar etc. The first time I went to Colombia, I just couldn't tell it to my friends, as it just seemed madness to go to Colombia. But as soon as I arrived, I just felt in love of the country and its people. The people are so friendly, I just couldn't imagine someone trying to hurt me. I was over confident and blind, just like any one else who is in love. I travelled for years to Colombia as a tourist, nothing ever happened to me, I never felt unsafe and hated people criticizing Colombia. Now I'm living here for 5 years. I still love the country but share also the problems of the Colombians, including safety issues. Crime stats are sky high, although it doesn't target specifically foreigners. Again, nothing ever happened to me, but I don't know a single Colombian in Bogota who hasn't been victim at least once of pettycrime. Thats why safety is a never ending debate on the board, it just depends in which stage your are of your experience of Colombia. I'm now like any other Colombian, I try to give the best possible image of the country, I'm happy to see you guys visiting the country, but I just want you also to go back home safely with only good memories. Enjoy the country but stay alert at anytime.
PirateMorgan
03-12-19, 19:52
Absurd perspective about Bogota. It offers more than anywhere in the world in terms of convenience, quantity, price and quality.
I was with a couple of my friends in front of Fiebre club (1 de mayo) this Saturday and then we saw a kid by himself run up to 2 or 3 guys and pointed out to everybody and yelled out "they stole my phone!" There were a lot of people around and no one paid any attention to him. He then fell down. I and my friends approached and helped him. He was stabbed twice in the ribs and once in the hamstring (leg)Fiebre (along with Troya and other popular clubs) is on the main street of Santa Fe.
Disclaimer: this could be Graphic as there is blood on the kid's shirt.Hmm!
There is no greenery on that main street. It's all full of bars and shops. So after he fell down in front of Fiebre, he must have walked 2 blocks?
Parkinsons
03-12-19, 20:14
Fiebre (along with Troya and other popular clubs) is on the main street of Santa Fe.
Hmm!
There is no greenery on that main street. It's all full of bars and shops. So after he fell down in front of Fiebre, he must have walked 2 blocks?
Bluecar, the Fiebre club is in Santa Fe, right? I walked through the area twice, it's one of the slummiest few streets I've ever wandered down, why the hell were you looking at your phones at night there and holding beer bottles, unless you're looking for trouble? I am sorry for the guy who got stabbed. Again, why was he looking at his phone? I spent 11 days in Bogota and didn't have any trouble, and didn't witness any crimes either. You and your friends must be doing something wrong, if crime keeps following you around.GreenBud-- I was thinking the same thing but I looked it up on G map. BlueCar was referring to another Fiebre (not Fiebre Sex) which is on 1 de Mayo. That is a big avenue with a wide grassy medium strip. Blue Car - - tell us about the 1 de Mayo scene? Why go there? Is this Fiebre a strip club also? I was super content and felt unthreatened in Santa Fe. Having mongered in both Bogota and Medellin, I prefer Santa Fe over el centro in Medellin, and the casas in the capital over their counterparts in the eternal spring city.
Absurd perspective about Bogota. It offers more than anywhere in the world in terms of convenience, quantity, price and quality.To each their own.
Been to Bogota 3 x and Medellin 6 x.
Bogota has some beautiful girls no doubt.
But Sante Fe is not for me.
The only thing I would say is I would consider wifing up a girl in Bogota rather than Medellin.
Medellin has the hotter girls overall but their diva attitudes only make me want to fuck as many of them as possible.
Here are a couple clips of everyday Bogota.
https://youtu.be/wA0IGxwRcJc
https://youtu.be/uN_p-3NGcnw
Spent a week between Bogota and Cali. Went to a couple casas but a few of the pictures from Calle 67 #16-25. Two chocolate Venezuelas, 23 and 30, for 32 k each for 30 minutes. And the other pics is from Sante Fe. Paid 40 K for 30 minutes. Bogotá is a top of mountain for mongering. So many spots for all taste and pocket sizes. One of the Best bargain in the world.
Bogota has great value. 5/8 hours from the USA.
You can have a great time on $100 a day plus airfare.
Hotel $30 there are many options AirBnB has great places.
Food $20 if you eat at some of the local places.
Pussy $50 is enough to get quality 2/3 times If you were in Troya or Paisas you could session twice and have a beer. The streetie sweeties are like $13+ And there are some hotties.
I know!
Spent a week between Bogota and Cali. Went to a couple casas but a few of the pictures from Calle 67 #16-25. Two chocolate Venezuelas, 23 and 30, for 32 k each for 30 minutes. And the other pics is from Sante Fe. Paid 40 K for 30 minutes. Bogot is a top of mountain for mongering. So many spots for all taste and pocket sizes. One of the Best bargain in the world.Yeah, That's what I'm talking' 'about! Don't forget the streetie sweeties!!
Absurd perspective about Bogota. It offers more than anywhere in the world in terms of convenience, quantity, price and quality.I second PM's sentiment. Visited Bogota for the first time about a year ago, and it was the most memorable and value-for-money experience I ever had (Rio comes close though). Can't wait to be back the next chance I get.
People wanted me to report on the southern clubs so here it is. I prefer the southern clubs rather than the Santa Fe Clubs. After 2 1/2 months I realize its the SAME girls at the Santa Fe clubs every day. They are hardened hookers. I prefer the clubs in el 1 de Mayo clubs a lot better. There are a lot more clubs and girls here. The girls are more GFE and there's more value. I find that there are a lot less fake breasts / butt in the south unlike Santa Fe. Its more natural. The turnover rate is also high in the southern clubs, so you can keep on going and find different girls there. I believe its because girls don't make that much money here, they just work in these clubs temporarily until they get a real job. Unlike in the Santa Fe clubs, the girls who are attractive earn more money relatively so they stay a lot longer LOL They also don't give much GFE because the whole city of Bogota (10 million people) comes to Santa Fe. People from the North and the South go to the Santa Fe clubs so they don't NEED a loyal clientele as there is more demand. The southern clubs are also in the same avenue as normal clubs where people party so you will see groups of people (regular girls and boys) with dress shirts / nice dresses and nice shoes walking around this avenue. I recommend the southern clubs but can't recommend you guys going there alone or with each other for that matter. You have to at least go with a Colombian or two, who know the area. There are many thieves and thugs here that have little regard for peoples lives.
LOL. Yes sir. I love the street sweeties as well. Bogota is a gem!
Yeah, That's what I'm talking' 'about! Don't forget the streetie sweeties!!
Bango Cheito
03-14-19, 09:55
Walking down a street where I can't look at my phone is safe? All for the purpose of getting some pussy!!
Mongering should be fun for the consumer not dangerous especially if you're going to a country where prostitution is legal. Lmao.
This is why Sante Fe is not worth it nor is Centro in Medellin.
I've been to Bogota 3 x and since the last time I went and saw how stupid the prices were getting at Lidos I just stopped going.
49 is definitely a fun club for a foreigner. Pussy house is not unless your Spanish is fluent.
Unless you enjoy the Sante Fe stroll Bogota really doesn't offer much for mongering. Unless you want to pay 800 k pesos for an hour with a hottie from one of the northern clubs.I don't know how many times I have to repeat this.
Your "hotties from the northern clubs" ALL work Chapinero, Santa Fe, 1 de mayo etc. ALL. OF. THEM.
Lido's is literally the biggest ripoff in Colombia. You may as well just give your money to some street criminal.
Bango Cheito
03-14-19, 09:56
People wanted me to report on the southern clubs so here it is. I prefer the southern clubs rather than the Santa Fe Clubs. After 2 1/2 months I realize its the SAME girls at the Santa Fe clubs every day. They are hardened hookers. I prefer the clubs in el 1 de Mayo clubs a lot better. There are a lot more clubs and girls here. The girls are more GFE and there's more value. I find that there are a lot less fake breasts / butt in the south unlike Santa Fe. Its more natural. The turnover rate is also high in the southern clubs, so you can keep on going and find different girls there. I believe its because girls don't make that much money here, they just work in these clubs temporarily until they get a real job. Unlike in the Santa Fe clubs, the girls who are attractive earn more money relatively so they stay a lot longer LOL They also don't give much GFE because the whole city of Bogota (10 million people) comes to Santa Fe. People from the North and the South go to the Santa Fe clubs so they don't NEED a loyal clientele as there is more demand. The southern clubs are also in the same avenue as normal clubs where people party so you will see groups of people (regular girls and boys) with dress shirts / nice dresses and nice shoes walking around this avenue. I recommend the southern clubs but can't recommend you guys going there alone or with each other for that matter. You have to at least go with a Colombian or two, who know the area. There are many thieves and thugs here that have little regard for peoples lives.May favorite in the area is Guadalajara Club. They stay open after hours two for the night owls.
There's also a RLD in Venecia, and another one in Fontibón
. And another small one in Bosa Piamonte (not recommended, very far, low quality).
I don't know how many times I have to repeat this.
Your "hotties from the northern clubs" ALL work Chapinero, Santa Fe, 1 de mayo etc. ALL. OF. THEM.
Lido's is literally the biggest ripoff in Colombia. You may as well just give your money to some street criminal.And I don't know how many times I'll repeat this. Yes there are a few girls who work both areas but definitely not ALL of them.
If you can't clearly see a difference between SOME of the high end girls up north and the average talent in Sante Fe you guys are definitely blind.
I personally know a group of girls from Medellin who go to Bogota to work. They are not going to Sante Fe. Why would they?
They would make more at an MP in Medellin if they wanted to sell their asses that cheap.
I’ll agree with you on Lidos being a rip-off now.
Mr Enternational
03-14-19, 18:12
I personally know a group of girls from Medellin who go to Bogota to work. They are not going to Sante Fe. Why would they?By that same token why would they go to Bogota when guys in Gustos are paying US $200 and US $300?
By that same token why would they go to Bogota when guys in Gustos are paying US $200 and US $300?The girl I'm referring to when I was in Medellin had a client 8 x in two weeks at Gustos. She's absolutely killing it.
Her and her friends goes to Bogota and works at a Northern Club every once in a while.
She told me she worked at Lidos once but was not cool with paying 120 k to work there.
She also goes to Cancun to work with her friends.
My guess is these girls travel for the sake of traveling. Financially it's stupid imo.
There are girls out there and a lot of them that actually know how to hustle and make $$.
But who are we to mock their hustle.
If one is not willing to pay her price then be it.
But she will get it elsewhere. Why? Because she is actually really attractive and clearly not a girl who would walk the streets of Sante Fe or Centro.
That's why I say if you can't see the difference between some of these girls one must be blind.
The girl I'm referring to when I was in Medellin had a client 8 x in two weeks at Gustos. She's absolutely killing it.
Her and her friends goes to Bogota and works at a Northern Club every once in a while.
She told me she worked at Lidos once but was not cool with paying 120 k to work there.
She also goes to Cancun to work with her friends.
My guess is these girls travel for the sake of traveling. Financially it's stupid imo.
There are girls out there and a lot of them that actually know how to hustle and make $$.
But who are we to mock their hustle.
If one is not willing to pay her price then be it..LOL. That what she told you!
LOL. That what she told you!Her getting a customer 8 x in 2 weeks is something I know for a fact happened.
As far as the rest yes and don't see a reason for her to lie to me. Doesn't benefit her or me.
I know all the cool guys go hunting in the clubs, clinicas, and barrios, but if you happened to have more money than time. Does anyone have experience with agencies? I have been looking at La Celestina for an upcoming trip. I don't see much in the last 10 pages. Many thanks.I have had 2 services with this agency in prior trips to Bogota. Nowadays is the most popular one. Its 100% reliable, if you become a coustomer they send pictures with faces to your cellphone.
BTW I will be in Bogota next weekend 3/22, looking for wingman.
Her getting a customer 8 x in 2 weeks is something I know for a fact happened.
As far as the rest yes and don't see a reason for her to lie to me. Doesn't benefit her or me.Welcome to Colombia. Judging Colombiana actions by foreign standards won't yield consistent results. Just because a lie benefits nobody, isn't a factor in the decision whether or not to lie. It's part of their nature.
The reality about girls in North clubs and girls in Santa Fe lies between the 2 extremes. There are some who won't work in Santa Fe, at least not until they can no longer pull customers up north. There are plenty who will never get a chance to work up north.
There are also plenty who work both ends of the city.
Sangnyc21 et al, you all have points. I've read his posts on the MDE thread as well as here now. As I understand it, Sang has specific requirements for a girl's looks and is willing to pay for it. There are girls who I think are quite hot but probably will not meet his definition of a 9 or 10. While I've seen his kind of 9's, and possibly 10's, in Medellin's Centro and Bog's SF, it does take time to filter and he's not willing to do that. Let's just leave it be. Right now, you're all just talking over each other.
Also one thing to point out a lot of 9's and 10's are so because of makeup and clothes. The Northern Clubs for example, I can tell their faces were caked in makeup. I didn't go to Gusto's in MDE but I'd imagine if a girl knows she's only taking one guy that night, she'll spend more time doing her face. In Centro / SF, I can definitely tell the girls don't spend as much effort on that, probably because they're fucking multiple dudes a day. Take some of the 7's, put them in a nice dress and spend an hour or two in a makeup room and they'll look like Instagram models.
ManchesterCat
03-15-19, 10:47
Just finished up my visit to Bogota and must say that I really like the city. As always, there are some great posts (probably some of the best I've seen of any city) by some members for Bogota. These are just my brief takeaways from my time.
Medellin – a lot of people recommended I visit Medellin when I was in Bogota, so definitely on my list next trip, but it got mentioned so much I thought it was worth mentioning in this post too, for anyone who has extra time in their planned visit.
Accommodation / Location – I stayed very far north, near Park Virrey in an Airbnb. Personally, very happy with the location and the apartment itself. Almost all apartments will have a doorman, but the ones in my building never questioned girl / s coming to the room, so all good on that front. There are lots of restaurants, café, banks and shops near the area in the north. As far as clubs go, lots of options here too. I even walked down to Chapinero on a few occasions.
The general rule of thumb is that the north is safe, and as visitors you wouldn't want to stay anywhere south of the city center (I. E. Parliament, gold museum etc). I honestly did not see any need to go that far south anyway.
Travel – Taxis are cheap, ubers are cheaper and involved less communication in Spanish, so my preferred option as usual.
Banks – As everyone else has pointed out already, Servibanca is a good options as far as ATMs go. Plenty of ATMS sprinkled over, but the green ATMs had the highest withdrawal allowance per previous reports.
Phone card – I just went to a little kiosk near where I was staying and the deal was pretty cheap (apologies, but can't recall exactly how much, maybe $30 k or something for my week).
Right, now to the options. I was aware of:
- Agencies.
- Day brothels.
- Strip Clubs.
Agency prices tend to start around $200 k -$300 k an hour. I ordered a girl on my first night, just for simplicity and got the girl I ordered but wasn't blown away. Soon realized that the prices were on the higher side and wasn't great value for the city's standards. But, did provide some good quality options and girls tended to be more to my preference compared to some clubs though. These were my shortlisted agencies after going through Routard's list:
- http://solitasparati.com.
- https://eroticasbogota.com/modelos.php.
Day Brothels – as per Routard, quite amazing really – options were no worse than the clubs but not too many caught my eye – prices are $30 k for 20-30 minutes to $70 k per hour. Only shame is that for me, most girls were 5-8 only. But, depending on your preference, there were certainly girls that would be 9's in some people's book. If there were better options here I would have stayed the whole day there.
Checked out three locations, and quality is generally similar. I may be wrong but I think Chicas Milenio has relocated. There's a place across the road from where it used to be which the best option I found was. I went to the place I thought Milenio relocated to (a few times) but sadly wasn't amazed and found the place across the road from the old location better.
Clubs (excluding Sante Fe) – Visited Pussy House (a bit early), La Forty Nine, Lido and Lalo (also note Lalo's international shut down, so only the one right next to Parque Virrey is still open).
Prices vary quite significantly, but truth be told I didn't actually take any girl to the rooms upstairs, only back home with me. The first girl I talked to quoted something like $300 k on premise and $500-$600 k to go home, which seemed like way better value for me, so I got transfixed on that idea.
Sadly, most girls I met tried to sneak home early, and didn't spend the whole night (more on this below).
Quick summary of the clubs:
- Pussy House – was there a bit early, but still quite a few guys and quite a few girls. A few that caught my eye as well. Drinks were quiet cheap as per Routard. As a gringo, services leaned on the pricier side of what Routard quoted, but not way more. Didn't opt for anything here, but was quoted $600 k all up for exit I think.
- La Forty Nine – A lot of girls here, but only a couple that caught my eye, one shy looking girl just sitting and waiting and her friend that joined her later (who ended up being much better in almost every single way). Exit fee to club was $200, $550 to the girl to exit for the night till 5 AM, think we left around 12, but they ended up asking if they could leave around 2-3, I was exhausted and didn't really feel like arguing. Service was a bit lacking, don't quite regret it, but also not blown away either.
- Lido – Very nice place, some nice girls, but not like, massively better either in my opinion, but SO expensive. I think I was quoted $400 k an hour. Ended up getting exit for $800 k or something, but she ended up changing the story to say it was 2 hours only but stayed a bit longer (maybe closer to 3). I mean she was a lovely girl and I had a good time, covered everything as well. Beers were $50 k and so was a water. Can't recommend this one unless you're looking for the nicest club to splash cash for the sake of it. Before you ask, actually went here with a local, so nothing was lost in translation and gringo tax would have been somewhat minimized.
- Lalo – Came here WAY too early and the place was deserted. I expected prices to be around La Forty Nine levels but can't attest to quality. Got gringo taxed massively and paid $60 k for a beer, couldn't be bothered to argue.
Sante Fe – So I walked around during the day and honestly wasn't particularly impressed so kind of wrote off visiting again. But the translator / night life guide I hired strongly recommended us going to a few clubs there, so I agreed. Very, very glad I did. I think I went on a Sunday or Monday, and it was still lively enough (you may have to go to a few clubs to find the busiest one for that night etc.) Visited La Paisas and Fiebre. Very wide choice of girls, different types so you should find something you like. Dances were like $20 k and 20 minutes in a room was $70 k – not as cheap as a day brothel, but still amazing. Beers were very cheap too, although I can't quite recall exactly how much.
A lot of girls wouldn't do private dances and would only go upstairs. Not a huge deal, but I thought getting a private dance was a good way to gauge what the girl was like. The girls also didn't seem to be constrained by the club – a lot came in and out seemingly as they pleased.
Could not recommend visiting Sante Fe enough, probably the best night out in a red light area I've had, but a few things for gringos to keep in mind:
1. I'm not convinced I would want to go to a proper club by myself – having people with you is way more fun.
2. I know no Spanish, so other than relying on google translate, communication was often quite limited, or you're suddenly stuck with the one girl who speaks English the bartender introduces you to.
3. I felt perfectly safe arriving in a taxi and going straight into the clubs, but I've been told Sante Fe is not 100% safe at night in the streets outside of a club.
The guide I had with me was honestly amazing, and I would highly recommend him – he helped translate and negotiate, and was great fun to hang out with in general. Everything you hope to get in a night time guide – all for $40 k an hour. If people are interested in his contacts, let me know and I can post separately or message you if I ever get private messaging back.
Takeaways:
1. If I had more time, during the day I would try and hunt down a few extra day brothels.
2. At night, Sante Fe was honestly my favourite, although certainly no harm checking out some of the other strip clubs. But if their prices seem a bit high, just leave, you're not going to be blown away by the service anyway, better to try and find a girl you like in Sante Fe and get her number or something.
3. Would honestly recommend a guide for gringos looking to go out – especially on a busier nights as English speaking bar staff / girls was quite limited in my experience.
Also apparently eating empanadas on the streets was recently made illegal – so watch out for that too I guess.
Just finished up a few rounds in Santa Fe. Venezuelans out in force. Not to say any better but cheaper. Had two. One started at 40.10 more for anal and 20 more to swallow.
The second was 50 but no anal however DFK was a go.
Lots more teenage male kids. Maybe cause it's Saturday but felt like I had to be more cautious than usual. Still prefer Santa Fe atunes in the daytime. El Castillo is closed BTW.
Just finished up a few rounds in Santa Fe. Venezuelans out in force. Not to say any better but cheaper. Had two. One started at 40.10 more for anal and 20 more to swallow.
The second was 50 but no anal however DFK was a go.
Lots more teenage male kids. Maybe cause it's Saturday but felt like I had to be more cautious than usual. Still prefer Santa Fe atunes in the daytime. El Castillo is closed BTW.I was there last. Was a great night in the clubs and on the street. The guy I was with was blown away. He sessioned 3-4 times.
Just finished up a few rounds in Santa Fe. Venezuelans out in force. Not to say any better but cheaper. Had two. One started at 40.10 more for anal and 20 more to swallow.
The second was 50 but no anal however DFK was a go.
Lots more teenage male kids. Maybe cause it's Saturday but felt like I had to be more cautious than usual. Still prefer Santa Fe atunes in the daytime. El Castillo is closed BTW.If you had only Monday night to have fun. Which club would you go to?
Hi,
I've spent a bit of time in Bogota but don't know the scene too well. I've used a couple of agencies that were terrible bait and switch and clearly catering to gringo tourists, and know the scene in Cartagena a bit better. Where can I find the best looking escorts in Bogota, price really isn't that much of an issue as I only have two nights and would only want one girl a day. I have a suite at the Sofitel so escorts to the room are probably better. Any escort agencies that can be recommended? Or independent escort sites? It seems there are so many out there it's hard to focus the search. I've also been told that there are 'managers' so to speak who manage girls where everything is a little bit more discreet and these girls might be semi public figures such as models etc (I know a girl I met in Cartagena who lived in Bogota who told me she had a manager who arranged bookings, however she is now married and moved on).
Any help would be appreciated if anyone has some local knowledge. It would be really good to get an idea of where to start, I've read through the forum a bit and I'm not sure the clubs are for me. I like to be able to whatsapp an agency or a service and be able to give my preferences and then go from there.
GringoItaliano
03-21-19, 00:03
I seized an opportunity to return to Bogota this month. I had spent the second leg of my two-week Colombia trip last year in Bogota (see my September 2018 posts). My experiences in the Santa Fe red light district exceeded my expectations and left me with the desire to return there and explore it more extensively. I got a good deal on flights that gave me a window of three days in Bogota, which I think is just enough time to devote entirely to Santa Fe. I had already covered the sightseeing and other non-mongering activities in Bogota that interested me last year, and I had already explored the city's other mongering options in Chapinero and the far north and concluded that they were not worthwhile.
A mongering trip to Bogota can be dirt cheap if you play your cards right. The big variable is airfare, so I jumped on a good deal for non-stop Avianca flights between JFK and Bogota. Avianca remains the only airline with which I have not had any major problems so far. The inbound flight arrived an hour early. Avianca credited my LifeMiles account within 24 hours of both flights. I stayed again at the Ibis Bogota Museo, which has reasonable rates of 120,000 to 135,000 COP per night (I have been using Accor's loyalty program). The rooms are small and basic but of good quality and adequate for my purposes. The early check-in time of 12:00 is helpful if you are arriving in the morning, as I was, and they had my room ready even earlier than that, as I had requested during my online check-in the day before. Breakfast is available for an extra 21,000 COP, and lunch and dinner are also available at the on-site Peruvian restaurant. There are also many banks and restaurants nearby. Taxi rides between the Ibis and Santa Fe may be as short as five minutes and typically cost between 5,000 and 7,000 COP. The Ibis provides transport to the airport for 25,000 COP; the taxi from the airport may cost a bit more.
I decided to shift my focus within Santa Fe during this trip. On my previous trip, I went mostly at night and focused on Santa Fe's top nighttime clubs, such as Paisas, Troya, and Fiebre. It was only toward the end of that week that I discovered the advantages of the daytime scene and the street scene; I told myself that I would focus on those scenes whenever I returned. Some guys go to Santa Fe during the day because they think it is safer then, but another reason to go during the day is that attracts different types of girls. The daytime girls struck me as less hardened and artificial and more likely to give good service. The daytime scene may also be better for "girl next door" or MILF types. The top daytime venue is the club Atunes, where I had one of my best sessions on my last trip and on this trip as well. The advantages of Atunes include the lack of overcrowding and noise that one finds at the nighttime clubs, better lighting to inspect the merchandise, better session rooms, and towels upon request.
The street scene can be almost as active in the afternoon as at night, and it seems to shut down at night earlier than the main clubs. On my last trip, the surprisingly high visual quality of some of the street meat exceeded my expectations and tempted me to try it. I overcame my reluctance to try street meat for security reasons once I realized that the club girls were not necessarily any safer in that regard. I thus discovered the advantages of street meat, including lower prices, better session rooms, and a more consistent quality of service. Accordingly, most of my sessions on this trip were with street girls, rather than club girls. I found even lower prices among the street girls this time as low as 30,000 COP, but 40-50,000 COP was more typical (club girls start at 60,000 COP). Much to my surprise, I found on this trip that BBBJ was more widely available among street girls than it was among the supposedly "higher-end" club girls (definitely a relative term in the context of Santa Fe). The majority of street girls that I asked were open to BBBJ, whereas only a minority of club girls were open to it. I was even more surprised to find two street girls that did not charge extra for BBBJ at all, which I had thought was universal among those that do offer BBBJ. I was even more surprised to find two street girls that offered anal at no extra charge (I did not partake, as anal is not my cup of tea). One of them said that offering anal reduced the wear and tear on her pussy; the other one just seemed to be a genuine freak.
Overall, I would say that shifting from club girls to street girls eliminated the extreme fluctuations in the quality of the service that I experienced on my last trip, which had some definite highs and lows. Most of the street girls on this trip were at least satisfactory, but none of them knocked it out of the park like the better club girls, both on this trip and on my last trip. My best sessions on this trip were both with club girls: a daytime session at Atunes and a nighttime session at Troya with the black-haired, lighter-skinned girl in the below photo. That session at Troya would have been even better if the room had not smelled like weed. Troya continues to have the worst session rooms of the main clubs, and it did seem a bit less active than it did on my last trip, but it nonetheless still puts on the best stage show. Paisas has done some remodeling since my last trip and now seems to attract a larger and better crowd of girls than before. Fiebre remains more or less the same as I remember it from my last trip.
The amount of turnover in the talent pool in the six months since my last visit initially surprised me. Then I realized that a place like Santa Fe must be a meat grinder, and I would imagine those girls that can move on to greener pastures probably do so at the first opportunity. I recognized only a handful of faces from my last trip and only one with whom I had a session on my last trip. Many of the few girls that I did recognize from my last trip were girls that I had either interviewed and rejected or had decided to avoid entirely. I would guess that the ones that stick around a place like Santa Fe longer than others must be more hardened, which might have been why I had previously avoided them in the first place. In any event, perhaps this high rate of turnover in the talent pool is advantageous for mongers in that it provides a steady stream of fresh meat. I would note that most of the few faces that I recognized from my last trip were club girls; I only recognized one or two of the street girls. I suspect that many of the club girls are more seasoned and hardened, whereas the street meat may also be fresher meat.
One advantage of Bogota over Medellin, and perhaps of Santa Fe over the other venues in Bogota, is the greater diversity of the talent pool, with girls catering to a wide (r) range of tastes. I also found that the Santa Fe street scene may appeal to a wider range of tastes and have a wider variety of types than the Santa Fe clubs. I continued to develop my taste for girls from Cali, whom I have found to be among the most consistently good performers. This trip further increased my desire to visit Cali, even though what I have heard and read about that city and its mongering scene does not inspire much confidence. Much to my surprise, I found only two girls from Medellin, and they were both among the weaker performers on this trip. Venezuelans remain numerous both in the clubs and on the streets, but, as on my last trip, I did not find them any better or worse in terms of appearance, service, or pricing.
I learned on my last trip that most Santa Fe girls are not photo-friendly, and that even just asking for a photo can irritate them. I only asked some of them for photos on this trip; most of them refused, but here are photos of two girls that allowed me to photograph them. The one with the black hair and the light skin is a regular at Troya and a solid performer that I would highly recommend.
I would return to Bogota if and when a good deal on airfare makes it possible to arrange a dirt cheap trip of a few days. With that said, I think that Medellin offers greater and more consistent quality, so it remains a higher priority for me, especially for longer trips. My experiences in Santa Fe have nonetheless fueled my growing interest in Tijuana, which sounds similar and is one of a few major mongering spots that I have not visited yet. The women from Cali have continued to impress me, but what I have heard and read about their city suggests that I would find it rather less impressive.
Bango Cheito
03-21-19, 00:22
If you had only Monday night to have fun. Which club would you go to?Pussy House.
Bango Cheito
03-21-19, 00:40
And I don't know how many times I'll repeat this. Yes there are a few girls who work both areas but definitely not ALL of them.
If you can't clearly see a difference between SOME of the high end girls up north and the average talent in Sante Fe you guys are definitely blind.
I personally know a group of girls from Medellin who go to Bogota to work. They are not going to Sante Fe. Why would they?
They would make more at an MP in Medellin if they wanted to sell their asses that cheap.
Ill agree with you on Lidos being a rip-off now.You're changing what I said.
Do all girls who work in Bogotá sometimes go to Santa Fe? NO, of COURSE not.
Do all girls who work in the north of Bogotá also work SOMEWHERE else in the city? ABSOLUTELY, 100% of them. No matter what they tell you. It's just simple economics; working in those places is too risky because it's costly and the work is too sporadic. It's the same reason why you see a musician playing arenas one day and playing the corner bar the next. Once again, ALL of them do this.
Is the AVERAGE quality higher in places like Lidos? ABSOLUTELY!
What I'm saying is, in practical terms, there is no point in going to places like Lidos, because, if you do your due diligence, you can go elsewhere and get LITERALLY the same talent for pennies on the dollar.
It's also worth pointing out at this point that not all of Santa Fe is about SW. SW are obviously the lowest cheapest and most dangerous form of p4 p. You have that definitely in Santa Fe (NOT RECOMMENDED AT ALL) and then you have the private residencias with independent girls, and then you have clubs and bars with various levels of filters for the girls working in there. There's maybe a 1000% spread from the cheapest of the cheap (NOT RECOMMENDED) to the most expensive in Santa Fe. So there's a big difference between working at La Piscina or Fiebre or walking around in dirty clothes on some street corner.
As a matter of fact, no one girl who works at one place ONLY works at one place and that's it. The only exception would be maybe a rich girl who wants to live out her fantasies by working in a *****house (which I've actually seen happen once), or things of that nature, where it's not really a business to them.
For starters, management rotates them all over the place and doesn't allow them to put down roots anywhere (in Bogota if you own one spot, you own 10 or 20 and the girls get moved between the various establishments).
I don't think that AVERAGE quality is such a great metric here, because, there are so many women in one place here, there are still going to be a bunch of stunners almost no matter where you go. And the stunners start at 50 k pesos!
I'm trying to save you guys some money here and also a little dignity. But if you really don't want to believe me despite the fact that I've been on ISG almost 20 years and been living in Bogota on and off for 14 of those 20 years, had GF's and even a wife in the industry etc. , it's on you!
Bango Cheito
03-21-19, 00:42
Just finished up a few rounds in Santa Fe. Venezuelans out in force. Not to say any better but cheaper. Had two. One started at 40.10 more for anal and 20 more to swallow.
The second was 50 but no anal however DFK was a go.
Lots more teenage male kids. Maybe cause it's Saturday but felt like I had to be more cautious than usual. Still prefer Santa Fe atunes in the daytime. El Castillo is closed BTW.In general, the afternoon is the best time for p4 p in Bogotá. So much good talent goes to bed before 10 pm, it's surprising. But it is what it is.
Especially Santa Fe is MUCH better before the sun goes down. It's not as dangerous as it used to be, but the quality is better, and there is more supply and less demand. Less crowds, and better deals to be had.
90% of the girls on mileroticos etc. Stop attending at 6-7 pm 8 pm MAX.
Bango Cheito
03-21-19, 00:46
Standard pricing in Pussy House: $60-80 k short time $100-120 k 1 hour.
TLN shouldn't be more than 250 k + salida. And for 250 k she better be a goddess arrived directly from a superior dimension! The going rate for that is 150-200 k. If the girl likes you it can happen for 100 k or less. Friends of mine have done it and so have I.
Pussy House.Thanks for recommendation.
It looks a bit sketchy, you think going alone is a good idea?
Rainy season in Bogota has begun. It will rain heavily many days a week until Easter or so.
Also things slow down last 2 weeks before Easter (holy week).
Mr Enternational
03-22-19, 08:05
It looks a bit sketchy, you think going alone is a good idea?What looks sketchy about it?
I have been to pussy house by myself. There was no problem at all. The waiter keeps asking for tips which annoyed me. I liked the place because it's so cheap. When I went there was one really popular chick that got a lot of attention. I didn't get any FS, just wanted to relax and enjoyed the show.
Thanks for recommendation.
It looks a bit sketchy, you think going alone is a good idea?
BlueChange
03-22-19, 23:20
Looking for a wingman so I don't have to go Solo in Santa Fe. DM me.
BlueChange
03-23-19, 00:15
Thanks for recommendation.
It looks a bit sketchy, you think going alone is a good idea?Was there on Wednesday and saw a chick I used to bang from 49 (the cheap one around the corner) I knew her personal life and I was making her jealous with her friend. She got upset that I was finger banging her friend and kissing her and got her whatsapp. All it cost me was a corona haha.
Pussy is not sketchy, it just looks that way, but of course always have your spidy sense up when you leave. There are usually taxi near by if you need to jump into one. I actually just walked home on 13. One of the advantages of living there.
Bango Cheito
03-25-19, 06:55
Thanks for recommendation.
It looks a bit sketchy, you think going alone is a good idea?Don't be walking around drunk in that area alone at night. Otherwise, yeah.
If you're calling an Uber to pick you up, just be aware that they might not be able to stop right in front of the place because often there are pissmobiles parked there.
Hi mates,
I had to cancel my previous plan to visit Colombia, the only thing stopped me was I speak only English! Here we go!
Given the fact my Spanish learning is not going anywhere. I have decided to travel anyway. Form May 22nd to May 29th. Can be a little flexible with dates, but planning to book the ticket in 1 week time, other wise its going to get expensive.
My plan is fly directly to Bogota from London.
What will make sense? Split my stay between Bogota, Medellin or Bogota / Cali. Or Bogota, Medellin and Cali.
I have a simple question, how far I can survive in the mongering space with English!!
Meanwhile, I am also trying to find some local help. A chica! Who can speak some English. For some help.
Hope to get some direction from fellow mongers.
I'the do Medellin and Bogota. You have more than a month. Learn a few phrases.
Hi mates,
I had to cancel my previous plan to visit Colombia, the only thing stopped me was I speak only English! Here we go!
Given the fact my Spanish learning is not going anywhere. I have decided to travel anyway. Form May 22nd to May 29th. Can be a little flexible with dates, but planning to book the ticket in 1 week time, other wise its going to get expensive.
My plan is fly directly to Bogota from London.
What will make sense? Split my stay between Bogota, Medellin or Bogota / Cali. Or Bogota, Medellin and Cali.
I have a simple question, how far I can survive in the mongering space with English!!
Meanwhile, I am also trying to find some local help. A chica! Who can speak some English. For some help.
Hope to get some direction from fellow mongers..
Planning on going to Bogota for a week sometime in May. I'm semi-fluent in Spanish (half Venezuelan) so I can speak with locals. I'd like to know if my budget of $1000 is alright in terms of food, transportation, and entertainment for that week. Not counting airbnb of course, planning on getting a nice apartment for myself. If it's too low then that's fine, I'll save up a bit more.
I may go to other cities if I find out how or have a friend, but not counting on that to happen for my first time in Colombia, haha. Totally willing to pay a tour guide for help too.
Appreciate the help, guys. I've spent a week reading these forums so far LOL.
Hi mates,
I had to cancel my previous plan to visit Colombia, the only thing stopped me was I speak only English! Here we go!
Given the fact my Spanish learning is not going anywhere. I have decided to travel anyway. Form May 22nd to May 29th. Can be a little flexible with dates, but planning to book the ticket in 1 week time, other wise its going to get expensive.
My plan is fly directly to Bogota from London.
What will make sense? Split my stay between Bogota, Medellin or Bogota / Cali. Or Bogota, Medellin and Cali.
I have a simple question, how far I can survive in the mongering space with English!!
Meanwhile, I am also trying to find some local help. A chica! Who can speak some English. For some help.
Hope to get some direction from fellow mongers.Before someone else suggests it, have you considered the Mansion in Medellin?
http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/
English speaking staff, full of like minded mongers and there's always someone willing to help show you around. Working girls hang around the pool daytime and in the bar at night. It's not the cheapest option, but it might be what you are looking for.
You won't find a lot of people who speak much English. You'll find the biggest concentration of English speakers in the Parque Lleras area of Medellin. Getting by with no Spanish is possible, but can be extremely frustrating. I suggest getting the Duolingo app and spending 30 minutes a day working on Spanish. It will greatly improve your trip.
There are expats in Bogota and Medellin who are willing to play wingman, for a small fee.
Planning on going to Bogota for a week sometime in May. I'm semi-fluent in Spanish (half Venezuelan) so I can speak with locals. I'd like to know if my budget of $1000 is alright in terms of food, transportation, and entertainment for that week. Not counting airbnb of course, planning on getting a nice apartment for myself. If it's too low then that's fine, I'll save up a bit more.
I may go to other cities if I find out how or have a friend, but not counting on that to happen for my first time in Colombia, haha. Totally willing to pay a tour guide for help too.
Appreciate the help, guys. I've spent a week reading these forums so far LOL.$1000 a week is fine. I figure a reasonable minimum is $100 a day if you economize and eat at locals places.
Planning on going to Bogota for a week sometime in May. I'm semi-fluent in Spanish (half Venezuelan) so I can speak with locals. I'd like to know if my budget of $1000 is alright in terms of food, transportation, and entertainment for that week. Not counting airbnb of course, planning on getting a nice apartment for myself. If it's too low then that's fine, I'll save up a bit more.
I may go to other cities if I find out how or have a friend, but not counting on that to happen for my first time in Colombia, haha. Totally willing to pay a tour guide for help too.
Appreciate the help, guys. I've spent a week reading these forums so far LOL.I figure my budget, including lodging, at $200 per day. That's based on $40-$50 per day for lodging, $25 per day for food, $25 for daily transportation and $100 for entertainment. For me, those numbers are high, except for lodging. I usually spend $10-$15 daily on food and less than $10 on transportation. My entertainment expenses run from $20-$70.
Whether or not your $1000 is enough depends on your appetites. You planning on doing 4 girls every day and only eating in the expensive restaurants, you might be short.
HumanBeing1
03-27-19, 03:55
Hi mates,
I had to cancel my previous plan to visit Colombia, the only thing stopped me was I speak only English! Here we go!
Given the fact my Spanish learning is not going anywhere. I have decided to travel anyway. Form May 22nd to May 29th. Can be a little flexible with dates, but planning to book the ticket in 1 week time, other wise its going to get expensive.
My plan is fly directly to Bogota from London.
What will make sense? Split my stay between Bogota, Medellin or Bogota / Cali. Or Bogota, Medellin and Cali.
I have a simple question, how far I can survive in the mongering space with English!!
Meanwhile, I am also trying to find some local help. A chica! Who can speak some English. For some help.
Hope to get some direction from fellow mongers.Wouldn't bother going to Cali. Medellin is a great city definitely worth your time. If you want a 3rd city I'd do Cartagena.
You'll definitely struggle without some spanish though. Almost no one speaks English. Don't let it stop you from going, but I really would recommend doing some duolingo and learning some phrases. Colombians are easy to understand.
PolloNegro
03-27-19, 03:58
Today with a wing man, good friend of mines. And just like everywhere else I go, if Plata is what they want then you're good. Went to Atunes and all of the clubs in Santa Fe, I told my wing man that I don't do Casas or strip clubs, but I had to let him have his feel because he did take time to bring me out here and hold my hand. We talk weekly and we finally came to some agreement about women in general, especially the working ladies, the prettier they are, the more proud they are and less likely to allow you to film and photo them. Me and my wing man went to nearly 15 clubs in Santa Fe and every girl he propositioned even at 400-500 mil for all night, would not allow photos of their face or wouldn't do BBBJ. I laughed, and told my wing man, this is the reason I won't patronize organized buildings and girls. I told him please show me where the street girls are, we went through Santa Fe and I looked several chics over then I grabbed 3 of them, 2 sisters and their cousins. At a bargain of a deal they will be with me and the wingman all night, depending on how they perform, I might keep them all 3 days that I am here. I guess I'm lucky or I have a look about me that speaks for itself, I walked pass all of the motorcycle shops and smelled all of the fumes and fuel, I'm just glad to get an opportunity to come to Bogota and see Santa Fe for myself. Yes there are more girls than Centro, but also more opportunity to run into problematic chicas as well. It took about 30 mins to find girls who would do: oral, vaginal, anal, suck milk and photo & film, but in no time flat, they were found and are here naked sticking to the agreed deal. They all have cedulas, so that's a plus, 18,19, & 19. So far, I'm loving Bogota! Pollo negro is out!
Don't be walking around drunk in that area alone at night. Otherwise, yeah.
If you're calling an Uber to pick you up, just be aware that they might not be able to stop right in front of the place because often there are pissmobiles parked there.Best place to catch your Uber / taxi out of SA is on Calle 24 and CR 16.
MjTravelLove
03-27-19, 05:19
Guys, I delayedmy reipto Bogota. Last time I went I met a hot girl on the Cuoid site.
Anyway, wondering what people think the best approach is for a guy who like All Night Long wtih 7-10's who know what they are doing. Oral natrual is a must.
Any thoughts? Girls? Clbs? Prepagos?
THANKS!
Nobody look at my face!
Aren't you black? Just curious, do you know of any black guys who are not high profile who have been kidnapped? It must happen on occasion, but I've never heard of it happening. Our company tries to send black guys to the areas where kidnapping occurs because they are perceived to be far less of a kidnapping risk. When our company sends white guys to those "dangerous" areas, they have to provide security for them because they have had them kidnapped in the past. I'm a white guy, and when I went to Nigeria, I was fine in Lagos, but when I went to an area outside Lagos that had many kidnappings in the past, they provided an armed guard for me at all times. I would have preferred to not have that guy with me all the time because it was a pain in the ass. I traveled there with 3 black guys and they didn't have any security at all the entire time.
Dave Chapelle explains it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ASPUkkHMs
Bango Cheito
03-27-19, 08:11
Wouldn't bother going to Cali. Medellin is a great city definitely worth your time. If you want a 3rd city I'd do Cartagena.
You'll definitely struggle without some spanish though. Almost no one speaks English. Don't let it stop you from going, but I really would recommend doing some duolingo and learning some phrases. Colombians are easy to understand.I personally like Medellíand but under those circumstances I'd split between Bogotá and Cali.
Cartagena is EXTREMELY hot and humid, so I never go there unless they pay me to go. If you like that kind of weather, then that's an option, but also, prices and attitudes favor you a lot less there than the rest of the country.
Medellíand is alright but I find that the gastronomy and cultural factors are a little lacking for me. Cali is one of the best places if not the best place in the nation for non p4 p action.
If you want something just chill and also really beautiful girls and low key vibe, Bucaramanga is also good, and really good p4 p.
MjTravelLove
03-27-19, 18:45
Any boards in Spanish, Colombia focused ones?
Can't find it.
Thanks.
From a few nights ago, You can see one of the better hotel rooms here, I have a funny video to be released later.
Camilla 22 yo. Hot session!
DeepakPateluk
03-27-19, 20:17
Hi,
Hi all my first post as I just joined this site after finding it via another site.
I read on otherwise there is a member here who offers tours of Santa Fe, I would like to get in touch to organise with him if possible.
Does anyone have his details?
Thanks.
I was at SF the other night and some guy brought a Mariachi Band and Flowers for his hooker GF.
https://youtu.be/k8SiiHG47MM
Hi,
Hi all my first post as I just joined this site after finding it via another site.
I read on otherwise there is a member here who offers tours of Santa Fe, I would like to get in touch to organise with him if possible.
Does anyone have his details?
Thanks.Check CraigsList Colombia services section.
MjTravelLove
03-27-19, 23:21
From a few nights ago, You can see one of the better hotel rooms here, I have a funny video to be released later.
Camilla 22 yo. Hot session!Thanks for sharing? Price? Time? Will she give BBBJ / oral natural?
Thanks!
MjT.
AlwaysHard3
03-27-19, 23:29
Hi all,
I'm going to be in Bogota next weekend. Can someone suggest some chica friendly places to stay at in the Zona G / T area?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for sharing? Price? Time? Will she give BBBJ / oral natural?
Thanks!
MjT.She might, I just did a quick fun session for $13. All covered,
I imagine if you showed her $100,000 pesos+ she would be into some of that at least. I actually got her number.
SethMacfarlane
03-28-19, 05:30
Today with a wing man, good friend of mines. And just like everywhere else I go, if Plata is what they want then you're good. Went to Atunes and all of the clubs in Santa Fe, I told my wing man that I don't do Casas or strip clubs, but I had to let him have his feel because he did take time to bring me out here and hold my hand. We talk weekly and we finally came to some agreement about women in general, especially the working ladies, the prettier they are, the more proud they are and less likely to allow you to film and photo them. Me and my wing man went to nearly 15 clubs in Santa Fe and every girl he propositioned even at 400-500 mil for all night, would not allow photos of their face or wouldn't do BBBJ. I laughed, and told my wing man, this is the reason I won't patronize organized buildings and girls. I told him please show me where the street girls are, we went through Santa Fe and I looked several chics over then I grabbed 3 of them, 2 sisters and their cousins. At a bargain of a deal they will be with me and the wingman all night, depending on how they perform, I might keep them all 3 days that I am here. I guess I'm lucky or I have a look about me that speaks for itself, I walked pass all of the motorcycle shops and smelled all of the fumes and fuel, I'm just glad to get an opportunity to come to Bogota and see Santa Fe for myself. Yes there are more girls than Centro, but also more opportunity to run into problematic chicas as well. It took about 30 mins to find girls who would do: oral, vaginal, anal, suck milk and photo & film, but in no time flat, they were found and are here naked sticking to the agreed deal. They all have cedulas, so that's a plus, 18,19, & 19. So far, I'm loving Bogota! Pollo negro is out!Damn, very nice! I'll be there in June, hopefully these cuties are still around then.
Hi all,
I'm going to be in Bogota next weekend. Can someone suggest some chica friendly places to stay at in the Zona G / T area?
Thanks in advance.AirBnB is a good option, there should be some studio or 1 bedrooms apartments available.
DeepakPateluk
03-28-19, 13:20
Check CraigsList Colombia services section.Apparently according to the post I read he is a member here, hopefully he will see this and drop a note.
If not I will check craigslist.
Thanks.
World Travel 69
03-28-19, 15:17
It might be best if you call the hotel and ask them.
Hi all,
I'm going to be in Bogota next weekend. Can someone suggest some chica friendly places to stay at in the Zona G / T area?
Thanks in advance.
DeepakPateluk
03-28-19, 16:51
Check CraigsList Colombia services section.Checked craiglist and I don't see any posts regarding tours etc.
If anyone knows who this member it would be much appreciated as I want to book the tour of Santa Fe adult tour.
Thanks.
Apparently according to the post I read he is a member here, hopefully he will see this and drop a note.
If not I will check craigslist.
Thanks.It is not possible to message you on your membership level.
I've been in Bogota before but I didn't know about this forum. I tried la Celestina and SolitasParaTi. Although pics are very close to real with only few enhancements, it's completely hit or miss. After reading ISG, I wanted this time to see the girls before the action. I had the perception that Santa Fe was dangerous so I wanted to go with a wingman. A very nice guy from this forum sent me a PM, so we met and explored together.
**Chapinero*.
1. Pussy House: We went around 4 PM, very dead and left. We came back around 6 PM and was way better. Shows happening almost continuously with hot girls, ambience wasn't bad. Waiters not pushy. Girls were average 5-8, I didn't see any 9-10.
2. Divas: in front of pussy house, this was the best we went to in Chapinero. The ambience is good although is smaller than Pussy house, I like the 2nd floor to watch the girls dancing from there. First at 4 PM there were few girls but 1 Venezuelan (Catalina) caught my eye, nice face, beautiful natural tits and ass. She talked to us, quote 60 k for 35 min. Since was the first girl I wanted to see more, so we asked for a show only for 20 k. Good show, young / tight looking pussy. We went to Sirenitas and la Bonita and didn't see anything. I still wanted to bang the Venezuelan so I want back around 6:30 PM. Place was even better, at least 25 girls maybe more. Catalina was with another guy but I had time so I waited. In the meantime, I danced with another hot Venezuelan short, mall tits, very good ass name Alejandra. Also, a thick very big tits also Venezuelan. Their reggaeton hip movements turned me on, I would have been happy to banged both of them. However, Catalina was finally available, so I went straight to session. Bad thing is that the rooms are outside the place, next door. Room was tiny, couldn't hear the music but all the noisy from other girls getting ready. I waited alone at least 5-7 min in boxers. She finally came, started an average CBJ. She had a lollipop and was rubbing it in her tits which I sucked for a long time. Then 2-3 positions, she was wet, good session but not extraordinary.
3. Sirenitas: calle 67 between Carrera 15-17. White House. The set up was more a brothel, they had music and a bar but girls were just sitting in the coaches. At least 25 girls, younger, average 5-6. My wingman was interested in a hot black with slim figure and amazing ass. I translated, 20 min was 27 k, 30 min 32 k and 60 min 64 k. , she had a 20 min session with another guy so she asked us to wait. We left.
4. Bonita: Carrera 15 between 67-68, green house. Same owner and set up than Sirenitas. Maybe 20 girls, my wingman took a thin, short Colombian (Emily) with tattoos and tits piercings upstarts for a private show. Funny story is that Emily came back naked to the first floor looking for me for translation, she wanted the full session, but my wingman declined. Rooms were more spacious than Divas but kind of sketchy.
5. Gisell Barra dance: we went around 5 PM but was closed. I heard good reviews from the Bucaramanga one, so I was curious. I know there are not very good reports here.
I think Chapinero was a good option for afternoon / early night fun, I like the places where you can dance with the girls before committing. Sirenitas / bonita is a good option for more young / spinner type of look and significantly cheaper.
We went to Santa Fe at night which I will post in a different report.
*Santa Fe*.
We hit up Santa Fe around 10:30 PM, a taxi driver dropped us at La Piscina from where we started the Tour.
1. La Pisicina: Probably the best infrastructure, high ceiling, spacious, a pool in the middle, taxis can get inside so you are not dropped / picked up in the streets, at least 30 girls, hot looking girls, I saw couple 9's. We sat down and had a beer. Only 2 other costumers. I danced reggaeton with a skinny Venezuelan, she really knew how to moved those hips. She quoted 170 k for 20 min, she said girls had a different rate from 170 up to 250 k for 20 min, rooms inhouse. I would pay that in a northern club (considering location, better rooms, etc), but I felt girls from pisicina were almost the same as other clubs there.
2. Troya: you had to buy a beer to get in, that night was the most fun club, it was packed, they were giving free shows to any table who bought a bottle. 4 naked girls doing simulatenous very hot lap dances to these guys. I saw a grupo of 4 friends who had at least 2 of those crazy dances. I was jealous of not having a group of people to have a table / bottle. Ambiance was awesome. Many many girls, I couldn't event count because they go in and out to different clubs. I didn't session here, but at the end of the night (around 2 AM) my wingman took upstairs a tall thin Colombian, he said she seemed drugged and had only a blowjob.
3. Paisas: Big club, a lot of people but not as crowded as troya. A short Colombian with juicy tits doing naked lapdances shows close to us. Overall girls as hot as troya. My wingman took upstairs a tall Morena. I waited for him and then left.
4. Fiebre: super packed, difficult to move inside. Very hot girls, we were offered a table but again we had to buy a bottle, we were only 2 and I didn't want to get drunk in Santa Fe my first time. So we said no and had beers standing only. This time I saw a hot pereiana doing a naked lap dance next to use, short, long dark hair, fake big juicy tits and ass. I was horny just watching so I decided to bang her. She finished the show went to the bathroom and when she came back I asked her to dance. We danced 1 song and I knew I have made a good selection, she got me hard with those movements. She asked for 70 k for 35 min, we went upstairs. Rooms were actually very decent, way better than the chapinero places. We got inside, got naked, she started with a very good CBJ, then doggy style. Her pussy was very wet and hot. I really had to concentrate to be able to fuck her good without cumming too soon. She enjoyed the pounding too. Then she went on top, and man started shaking that ass crazy. I asked for anal but she said no. 1-2 more positions and I came. Very good session.
5. La Casona: went just briefly, girls not as many nor as hot as the other places. Some guys inside. We left.
I felt safe in Santa Fe inside the clubs and in the middle of the night moving from club to other. At the end it was very hard to get an Uber, uber drivers kept just cancelling the trips immediately. We finally got one that we called and set up a meeting point. Those minutes while waiting for the uber were more dangerous feeling, it was late 3 AM, very crowded, drunk people, homeless etc.
I think Santa Fe is more enjoyable with a group of people to have a table / bottle, naked lap dances, etc. It was my 1st time, I may be biased with those guys I saw having a blast.
MjTravelLove
03-29-19, 05:30
HI Guys,
I have had some good luck on Cupid. It takes time but did find myself some solid GFE and PSE.
My question is about FB? Being that it's not a dating site like Cupid, how do you find the working girls?
Does that make sense.
Thank you,
MJt.
Mr Enternational
03-29-19, 05:37
HI Guys,
I have had some good luck on Cupid. It takes time but did find myself some solid GFE and PSE.
My question is about FB? Being that it's not a dating site like Cupid, how do you find the working girls?
Does that make sense.
Thank you,
MJt.Dude are you trolling? You have already asked this in the Medellin thread and someone has already answered you. Now you come and ask the same thing here.
*Santa Fe*.
We hit up Santa Fe around 10:30 PM, a taxi driver dropped us at La Piscina from where we started the Tour.
4. Fiebre: super packed, difficult to move inside. Rooms were actually very decent, way better than the chapinero places. Thanks for posting a detailed report. Good observations with usable info.
(1) If you can only visit ONE location, would you visit Santa Fe OR Chapinero?
(2) It appears Fiebre had the best room. Did any other Club in Santa Fe have decent rooms?
(3) In your report, you say the girl (your friend took) needed your help to translate. Do you speak Spanish? If yes, just curious about your level of fluency?
~BKKguru.
Dude are you trolling? You have already asked this in the Medellin thread and someone has already answered you. Now you come and ask the same thing here.I'm also pretty sure I pointed out that FB isn't nearly as popular with the girls in Bogota as it is in Medellin, in this thread, just a few weeks ago.
Mr Enternational
03-29-19, 11:49
5am and me and Dcfan77 just got in from Santa Fe. We went out there about midnight. I showed him every nook the he wanted to go back to Atunes. We got some Ron Medellin for 60K. I had a 20 year old Venezuelan entertaining me. Then Dc went and found some chick. We got them some drinks. Be careful with that shit. My girl said she wanted some drink called pina. Dc's chick got a Smirnoff ice. I asked how much and the waiter dude told me 32K! 12 for the pina and 20 for the Smirnoff.
My girl said she wanted to dance naked for me. I asked how much it would cost and she said 10K. Make it happen! I was trying to pay Dc's girl to dance naked too but she was not having it. Finally time to go to the room. My girl had told me earlier 40K for her and 6K for the room. Dc paid first but looked like he paid more. I paid with a 50K and old girl thought she was going to keep the balance. I said And My Change? Then she gave the bar a 10 and they gave her change. She handed me 2 2000s and we went upstairs.
When we got up there Dc and his girl were nowhere in sight. I asked the lady in charge of the rooms where my friend was. She said who. I said the guy that came up before me. She said they went to room 8. I went down to room 8 and bust in the door hoping to see his girl nekkit. They were still fully clothed though so I left out. One of the maids was walking toward me and asking for a tip. I quickly ran to my room and locked the door behind me. Asking for tips is like kryptonite to me.
When I got the knock on the door I got dressed and went downstiars. Dc was nowhere around. Wait a damn minute. He went up before me, so how the hell did I get a knock before him? He finally came down and I saw him passing out money. I said man your girl is juicing you. He said they were saying if they have to knock twice then you have to pay extra. I told him that I would have told them fuck that.
We headed back to the street and ended up in front of California. We heard some dudes speaking English and stopped to talk to them. (As a matter of fact there must be a lot more English speakers coming around because EVERYONE tries to speak to me in English now; then I tell them that I am from Brazil and ask if they speak Portuguese.) So one guy was from Chicago and the other guy was a Russian guy from Canada. We chilled with them a bit and played around with some of the street girls. Dc decided to take the one he was screwing around with so I struck out on my own. It was 2:39am by then.
I walked around and found me a chick to fuck for 40K. When I finished I was walking down the street and saw Dc's girl. He still had not sent me a message though. So I kept on mongering. I came upon one place where there were 2 chicks. I said eenie, meenie, miney. I told them I couldn't decide which to take. They said take us both. I said no I will take you, pointing to the chick that was like 7 feet tall. 40K including the room once again.
We went inside and I was loving it. I asked her how much for all night. She said 300K. I said WHAT THE! Then she said okay 200K. I said that is better. Then she asked me why I screamed. I said 300K, that is why. Time was up but I didn't pop. So I stayed there nekkit and told old girl to send her friend in.
She said you mean my sister? I said that is not your damn sister. She said yes it is. I said do you have the same mom or same dad? She said both. I said bullshit. She gave me her number and I added her to whatsapp. She went out and called the other girl to come in. I said she was talking about you are sisters. She said we are. I said but y'all look nothing alike. She said she is tall and looks like our dad. I look like our mom. She told me to give her my number and she would send pictures of their family. I said I already gave it to your sister.
So the session was great. I asked her how much for all night and she said 300K. I said no way. She said 250K. I said 200K. She said that is good. When we got dressed she showed me an ID. Without looking at the picture I assumed it was hers but she said it was her sister's. I asked her her name and she asked if I wanted her real name or the name she works under. I said what is the damn difference. Why do you need a fake name? She told me both. I told her that I would see her later and left. They were also Venezuelan by the way. I don't think there are Colombians working in Santa Fe anymore. Same shit has happened in Lima. You can find everyone except a Peruvian chick.
Dc still had not sent me a message so I gave him a call. He said that he was still with the same chick. I said what the fuck; but I saw her in the street alone earlier. It was now 3:55am. I told him that I would be waiting in front of Paisa's for him. Chicks kept coming up to me but I had no power. Touts also kept coming up trying to get me to come inside different places. At 4:24am I called him back and he said that he was getting dressed. His ass spent 2 hours with the chick for 60K.
While I was standing out there waiting, I noticed several chicks driving off alone in their own nice cars. Make of it what you will. Those sisters really did send me pictures of them with their family. They sent one pic when they were little girls at church with their mom and one pic as adults with their father. Well I will be damn! Cat from Chicago also sent me the info for the $18 airbnb that he is staying at close to Santa Fe. It is damn near 6am. My girlfriend gets off work at 7 and said she will be here by 9. I better take a shower and take my ass to sleep!
P. S. Also while waiting for Dc, I saw the girl I had from Atunes ring the bell and go inside that disco place next to Paisa's. I guess she lives in the rooms upstairs. I also saw other chicks going into other bars that they must live in. And by the way, we walked both ways to Santa Fe and back to our hotel on Calle 18.
Thanks for posting a detailed report. Good observations with usable info.
(1) If you can only visit ONE location, would you visit Santa Fe OR Chapinero?
(2) It appears Fiebre had the best room. Did any other Club in Santa Fe have decent rooms?
(3) In your report, you say the girl (your friend took) needed your help to translate. Do you speak Spanish? If yes, just curious about your level of fluency?
~BKKguru.Thanks for reading it!
1. If you are with friends and it's nighttime definitely Santa Fe. If you are alone and worry about safety Chapinero is good option. Actually 2/3 hottest girl in Divas told me they work until 10 PM only, so it seems chapinero for early evening is great.
2. No idea because I only sessioned at Fiebre. Maybe other members can give their input here.
3. I'm native Spanish speaker but nowadays I live in the US.
DeepakPateluk
03-29-19, 19:35
It is not possible to message you on your membership level.Hi,
How can I fix that?
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MjTravelLove
03-29-19, 22:35
I'm also pretty sure I pointed out that FB isn't nearly as popular with the girls in Bogota as it is in Medellin, in this thread, just a few weeks ago.That does not fit with the definition of trolling. The advice in the MDE forum was helpful. Thanks again. But it does not apply to Bogota. It does not produce the same outcomes.
I not can start to see why, although it's off given the surplus of working girls and people in BOG.
A lot of folks on this board needs to stop taking themselves so seriously.
MjTravelLove
03-29-19, 22:37
I'm also pretty sure I pointed out that FB isn't nearly as popular with the girls in Bogota as it is in Medellin, in this thread, just a few weeks ago.Ok, it's not "as popular", but does that mean it is useless? Yay? Nay? That's the real question.
Ok, it's not "as popular", but does that mean it is useless? Yay? Nay? That's the real question.It's useless until someone cracks the code and figures out how to find some Facebook prepagos I'm Bogota. I've tried and come up with nothing, although I haven't put a lot of effort into it.
However, you can find girls on Twitter in Bogota. Just search for prepago and masaje. Many of them include nude pictures and their Whatsapp.
Mr Enternational
03-30-19, 00:04
Ok, it's not "as popular", but does that mean it is useless? Yay? Nay? That's the real question.Try it out and let us know.
MjTravelLove
03-30-19, 04:21
Try it out and let us know.Will do -- working on it.
AlwaysHard3
03-30-19, 04:38
It might be best if you call the hotel and ask them.Any suggestion on how this might be done without saying you're bringing back working girls? I'm planning to book the room for two people, but I'm not sure how to best ask this question especially since I don't speak a lick of Spanish.
Would it just be a matter of saying "bringing back company?
One minute your looking for some food and all of a sudden your boning some hot streetie sweetie!
I eat in the SF neighborhood alot.
Tonight I was working on line and I decided to pop down to get a bite. No intention of hooking up.
I was trying to decide what to eat and I walked into the red light area and was there were so many hot girls on the stroll and I ran into Luz who is one my hooker GFs.
She's 19 and she loves me! At least that is how she treats me.
1 block south of Calle 24th on Carrera 16 is like a Venezuelan village. There are people there until really late.
See here,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdeJ7kVW7mo&feature=youtu.be
TiaVoyage25
03-30-19, 07:26
All,
First of all, I appreciate all of the information available on this forum. I wish I had known about it years ago before I started traveling. But alas, I am just now discovering it and will post about my recent travel experiences in hopes that they may assist others.
I went to Bogota and Medellin (will post separately about Medellin) in December 2018. For the first few days I stayed in Zona Rosa doing the usual tourist stuff. Went to a few bars of which the name escapes me but learned one valuable lesson that may be useful to travelers in the future, if you'll bear with me. A friend and myself went to an Irish bar and saw a group of 3 beautiful girls that we decided to approach and talk to (thinking they were non-pros). We bought them drinks all night and danced with them at various clubs. At the end of the night we asked them to come back to our hotel with us and they asked for 300 k each. Yea right. Lesson learned. No mongering done in Zona Rosa, but subsequently went down to Sante Fe a few days later.
Sante Fe: As many have said on this forum, this may or may not be the place you want to wander alone at night. I don't speak Spanish, but I blend in at first glance so I didn't have any issues alone. When I was with my friend who is half-Colombian and speaks Spanish, things were even easier. As this was my first visit to Sante Fe I remember the details vividly and will relay as much info as I can to help others. I started my first night off in Troya. There are two entrances and both have a bouncer. The bar is pretty small but the stage in the middle of the club is pretty nice. They had some event going on where they were bringing guys on stage to get dances from the girls. I was alone at this time so I bought a few beers and watched the entertainment which was actually pretty funny. The quality of the girls here was probably a 7 on average (weekend night). After two beers or so I wandered to Paisas, Fiebre, and La Piscina. Overall these clubs were pretty great and I didn't have any issues even though I didn't speak any Spanish. Buy a beer and stand somewhere if you just want to watch the talent walk by. I didn't feel pressured by the staff at all either.
Here is where I made my biggest mistake and I am lucky it did not cost me. After not partaking in any of the action at any of the clubs by the end of the night, I decided I wanted to hang around a bit even after the clubs were closing. As all the clubs started to close I found myself standing outside Fiebre. A man approached me and invited me to an after party at some after-hours club. Intoxicated, I said something along the lines of "bro, I don't speak Spanish" and subsequently pulled out my iPhone (also a bad idea given the area) and used a translator app. The guy, who was from Venezuela, essentially offered to be my translator / body guard / tour guide for 50 k. Seemed like a steal so I went with it. He took me to a couple after hours clubs in Sante Fe, got my drinks (always opening the bottle in front of me), and bringing a series of girls around for dances whenever I pointed to one I liked. He even negotiated a "VIP" table for roughly 100 k. He did all the translating and negotiating for me which was especially useful when I decided to get a girl. She was a hard 9, fake everything (but I like that kind of thing) and wanted 60 k for 30 minutes at a club called Eiffel. This club apparently only opens after hours in Sante Fe and is on the top floor of a building across from Fiebre. It is also a one room club that has rooms in the downstairs area. After the great session, I decided it was time to go home, around 6 am. My Venezuelan guide offered to hail me a taxi but I wanted to walk back to my hotel in La Candeleria. He cautioned me against this but I was stubborn and decided to go anyways. He walked me to the front door of the club where I paid him 75 k for being a great guide, and went on my way. Luckily, I got back to my hotel safely. Total damages for the night: just under 300 k, which is over course expensive for Sante Fe.
The rest of my days in Bogota were spent doing touristy things by day and visiting Sante Fe by night. I didn't have any close calls whatsoever because I stuck to the main streets and also because I probably blend in a bit. My overall impression of Sante Fe is that if you bring a friend, watch your drinks, and don't wander off the main streets you'll be OK even as a foreigner who speaks no Spanish. Negotiating with the girls if you don't speak Spanish will be difficult, but it can be done. Just don't be stupid like I was on my first night there. As the old saying goes, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I will be heading back to Bogota at the end of May if anyone wants to meet up. Glad to discuss other travels and pass along tips regarding Germany, Netherlands, Poland, and France.
PolloNegro
03-30-19, 14:52
This is just a Review of what I observed, learned, saw, and participated in. My impression of Santa Fe is this: its much larger than the strip in Vera Cruz. There are much more women in Santa Fe versus Vera Cruz. This is good and bad, more women to choose from, more chances of mishaps, trust me, I saw this first hand.
If you are able to bang chics at casas and on the spot, Santa Fe is most definitely the place you want to be, because the girls are there in large numbers. Many beautiful Venezuelans, everywhere, many are very young as well and many will not leave the area. I learned alot while I was in Santa Fe, because I was raised in a very similar environment. I can do very well in this type of environment because I feel at home in the hustle and bustle of chaos. Many of these girls are so uneducated and so accustomed to ripping guys off and trying to earn as much as they can as quick as they can. Many of these girls cannot even complete a date outside the area because they can't find anyone to watch their kids. Its damn near crazy to see, sad but its true.
I found Santa Fe to be a wild west type environment and anything goes, I grew up in the 80's, low socioeconomic status, so chaos, confusion, drugs, and no babysitters are common problems to me. Everyone is in the rip off business as well in Santa Fe, the hotels, the government, the local bars, the clubs, the massage places everyone. This is great as to no one can squeal on anyone, a block of nothing but crooks and opportunity. An entrepreneur's dream if he or she has the heart to stomach Santa Fe's activities.
I lost a lot of dates because girls would not leave the area and I didn't have a room in the area. So I spent an entire day in Santa Fe going from Hotel to hotel asking questions about price and being able to see some of the activities that goes on at each hotel that I visited. Most hotels vary from $30 mil to $80 mil per day, so how could you go wrong? You could waste that $17-$25 a day an not miss it. One hotel I visited was only $50 mil a day with a kitchenette and it was one of the much better hotels located at ground zero.
I will visit Bogota a few more times before I make a final decision on Bogota, the girls are most definitely beautiful, the girls are plentiful and the silicone is in great amounts in Santa Fe. I had to get rough with a few people in Bogota about walking up to me trying to force me to give them money for free. I also tested 2 or 3 girls in Santa Fe to see how trustworthy these girls are, everyone failed. I sent each of them across the street to buy me a small coca cola, which was 1.5 mil pesos and each told me it was 3 mil pesos and each would not bring me my coca cola directly back to me, and I was watching. They would step to the side of the store where they bought the soda for nearly 10 minutes and then bring my soda, I told them to drink it and they looked baffled, I went across the street and bought my own coca cola and told the girls there would be no cita. This behavior was extremely troubling to me. I can't tell you if they were going to drug me on the street or what, I just know they would not bring my soda directly back to me. So mongers beware.
My last night in Bogota we took one girl from Bogota and a nice brown Venezuelan. The prices were good and me and my wing man exchanged girls throughout the night. I need a few more trips to cast any final assessment of Bogota. Its a fast paced city full of opportunistic people ready to pounce if you slip, great place to monger, just keep your head screwed on tightly, Pollo Negro is out!
Any suggestion on how this might be done without saying you're bringing back working girls? I'm planning to book the room for two people, but I'm not sure how to best ask this question especially since I don't speak a lick of Spanish.
Would it just be a matter of saying "bringing back company?I don't know why that question comes back and back again, Colombia is a free country. No hotel will forbid entrance to an adult with ID as long as they register at the desk and receive payment. A hotel has no authority to judge or to ask if a person is monger or prostitute. It's no one's business what two consentent adults are doing behind a closed door. The only thing they are allowed to do is charge double occupancy which they always do, no matter if its a hooker or your wife you are married with since 50 years. So the only thing you need to ask:
"Cual es la recarga para huesped adicional?
AlwaysHard3
03-30-19, 22:40
I don't know why that question comes back and back again, Colombia is a free country. No hotel will forbid entrance to an adult with ID as long as they register at the desk and receive payment. A hotel has no authority to judge or to ask if a person is monger or prostitute. It's no one's business what two consentent adults are doing behind a closed door. The only thing they are allowed to do is charge double occupancy which they always do, no matter if its a hooker or your wife you are married with since 50 years. So the only thing you need to ask:
"Cual es la recarga para huesped adicional?I really appreciate the help. Thanks!
MichaelLockhar
03-31-19, 10:03
Excellent report useful for me as I'm heading there for two nights in may think I I'm planning 12 th May.
And places near t zone you would recommend as I am staying there.
Thanks.
All,
First of all, I appreciate all of the information available on this forum. I wish I had known about it years ago before I started traveling. But alas, I am just now discovering it and will post about my recent travel experiences in hopes that they may assist others.
I went to Bogota and Medellin (will post separately about Medellin) in December 2018. For the first few days I stayed in Zona Rosa doing the usual tourist stuff. Went to a few bars of which the name escapes me but learned one valuable lesson that may be useful to travelers in the future, if you'll bear with me. A friend and myself went to an Irish bar and saw a group of 3 beautiful girls that we decided to approach and talk to (thinking they were non-pros). We bought them drinks all night and danced with them at various clubs. At the end of the night we asked them to come back to our hotel with us and they asked for 300 k each. Yea right. Lesson learned. No mongering done in Zona Rosa, but subsequently went down to Sante Fe a few days later..
GeneHickman
03-31-19, 13:22
I don't know why that question comes back and back again, Colombia is a free country. No hotel will forbid entrance to an adult with ID as long as they register at the desk and receive payment. A hotel has no authority to judge or to ask if a person is monger or prostitute. It's no one's business what two consentent adults are doing behind a closed door. The only thing they are allowed to do is charge double occupancy which they always do, no matter if its a hooker or your wife you are married with since 50 years. So the only thing you need to ask:
"Cual es la recarga para huesped adicional?Yes but they can and do charge a hefty and punitive sum for each additional guest, even if you have made a booking for two.
Yes but they can and do charge a hefty and punitive sum for each additional guest, even if you have made a booking for two.Not always, in Viaggio for example it s just 15 000, basically the price of the adicionnal included breakfast. That s why it s a good idea to ask before booking. My point is to say that you don't need to feel embarrassed to ask for the price of adicionnal guest, it's just a business issue, not a moral issue.
I found Santa Fe to be a wild west type environment and anything goes,... Everyone is in the rip off business as well in Santa Fe, the hotels, the government, the local bars, the clubs, the massage places everyone. This is great as to no one can squeal on anyone, a block of nothing but crooks and opportunity. An entrepreneur's dream if he or she has the heart to stomach Santa Fe's activities.
PN, I agree with your candid observation, I was not impressed when I visited the area. But it is only fair to add that red light districts are ripoff paradises the world over in my experience.
Yes but they can and do charge a hefty and punitive sum for each additional guest, even if you have made a booking for two.I have never been charged for extra guest even by hotels that explicitly list it as part of their policy, including the rare occasion when the lady stayed for breakfast. This includes Bogota, Rio, Istanbul, and other developing world locations. I tend to avoid the low-ends in favor of the 'middling' places though.
............. So I spent an entire day in Santa Fe going from Hotel to hotel asking questions about price and being able to see some of the activities that goes on at each hotel that I visited. Most hotels vary from $30 mil to $80 mil per day, so how could you go wrong? You could waste that $17-$25 a day an not miss it. One hotel I visited was only $50 mil a day with a kitchenette and it was one of the much better hotels located at ground zero..................The noise level in the rooms in these hotels must be crazy.
Here is where I made my biggest mistake and I am lucky it did not cost me. After not partaking in any of the action at any of the clubs by the end of the night, I decided I wanted to hang around a bit even after the clubs were closing. As all the clubs started to close I found myself standing outside Fiebre. A man approached me and invited me to an after party at some after-hours club. Intoxicated, Sounds like a good way to fall prey to a clip joint.
OnionBootyFan
04-01-19, 03:59
I will be heading back to Bogota at the end of May if anyone wants to meet up. Glad to discuss other travels and pass along tips regarding Germany, Netherlands, Poland, and France.I will be in Bogota from May 9th-23rd if you (or anyone else) wants to meet up. I don't speak much Spanish either though so I'll definitely need a guide / wingman.
Sounds like a good way to fall prey to a clip joint.Actually it's not. For ley, all places selling alcohol have to close before 3 am in Bogota. However, there are the so called "amaneceros" that continue after 3 am with closed doors, paying a bribe to police. It's true for regular bars as well as for brothels. As doors are closed, it's not that obvious to find these places that's why there are people waiting outside the clubs that close at 3 am to bring you there. These clubs give these guys a couple of pesos for each client they bring.
I will be in Bogota from May 9th-23rd if you (or anyone else) wants to meet up. I don't speak much Spanish either though so I'll definitely need a guide / wingman.Check CraigsList Colombia.
Is this a safe place to roll into? I definitely wouldn't mind linking up with a wingman.
Actually it's not. For ley, all places selling alcohol have to close before 3 am in Bogota. However, there are the so called "amaneceros" that continue after 3 am with closed doors, paying a bribe to police. It's true for regular bars as well as for brothels. As doors are closed, it's not that obvious to find these places that's why there are people waiting outside the clubs that close at 3 am to bring you there. These clubs give these guys a couple of pesos for each client they bring.
Oliver Kitsoff
04-02-19, 19:14
The noise level in the rooms in these hotels must be crazy.I'm quite deaf, hearing aids out, I'm golden! Bwahahaha!
Is this a safe place to roll into? I definitely wouldn't mind linking up with a wingman.Same as the clubs that close at 3 am, except hat visitors tend to be real drunk and these clubs try to make them drink even more.
LurkLongTime
04-04-19, 03:32
I will be in Bogota April 18 through the 22 I wouldn't mind looking for a wingman.
Black male 28 years old been a long time lurker.
Same as the clubs that close at 3 am, except hat visitors tend to be real drunk and these clubs try to make them drink even more.I need a wingman for my next trip there.
MichaelLockhar
04-04-19, 13:36
Check CraigsList Colombia.Woodman do you have a direct link? I been looking in craigslist but can't find what you mean.
Woodman do you have a direct link? I been looking in craigslist but can't find what you mean.Just PMed you.
Check CraigsList Colombia.Care to elaborate? CL for Colombia seems dead when I checked it.
HumanBeing1
04-05-19, 02:25
What is not good about it? A buddy of mine swore by Managua before getting his place in Medellin. He was getting all kind of chicks for $6. I have had a couple of girlfriends in Managua, but never had the chance to monger there because I would stay at their houses.I was able to meet girls there easily to go out on dates, hook up etc. That part was easy. I have two that still text me occasionally to this day (and I went there 2 years ago). I just meant the scene as far as finding girls for point and click type of stuff was lacking. Maybe I missed it.
I need a wingman for my next trip there.PM me next time you go.
Mr. E AKA (Sr. Tacaño) is completely accurate. I'm glad he remembers what happened, because I was high as a kite and drunk. I want to say that night I didn't cum. The Atunes Venezuelan spinner I picked from making my rounds at the bar was nice but not sexual enough for my tipsy-ass. I needed a straight cold freak! The rooms in these establishments are not great. Similar to the strip clubs in El Centro Medellin. Used for quick 20 min pops. If you tip the cleaning lady 5 k she might give you a extra 10 min. "te doy 5 k para que no me toques la puerta. " didn't pop but def enjoyed my first Bogota Ven Spinner. Off to the next one.
I got to say I was really surprised by the street talent. Mr E and I walked all over Santa Fe and it was way better than the SW in Medellin centro. You can really see the influx of the 1 million Venezuelan immigrants that have entered Colombia. People and and hoes everywhere. As we're walking the streets of Santa Fe I overhear some pink toes speaking English. I say hey where why'all from? Big see is from Chicago and I didn't get the name of the shady Russian Canadian. We make small talk and I expressed my desire to buy a blunt from the street guys. Weed smell all around me. Big see comes through big time and help me with some 420 oils that got my mind right. While we are smoke on the street I couldn't help but noticing this sexy Venezuelan thick'ems smoking a joint. She had a big ol' booty. With her back turned to me I approached her big ass. I say "amor dame eso" she turns around to notice who's talking to her and get scared because I'm literally right up on her ass. She giggles and says " es todo tuyo".
"Cuanto me vas a cobrar" I asked. She replied 40 k. I'm like let's go. We have good chemistry during our our walk to the short time hotel. Sex was good but I still couldn't cum. Shit, if I was in Pattaya she would've given my money back. LOL. I explained to her that it's very hard for me to cum when I'm high and drunk. So times up. But I wanted to still hang out with her so I told her to go buy a blunt and we can continue to have more fun. We agreed for another 40 k but she wanted to go back to her apt-hotel. A lot of these Venezuelan girls stay at the same hotels where they do business. We get dressed and walk outside she tells me to wait here and she goes and gets a blunt. That's when Mr E sees her walking the other direction. She comes back and we go to her apartment. We get a couple of beers smoked a blunt and attempt to fuck again. She whipped out some toys and I Fucked her doggy style but still nothing. We must've stayed 40 minutes in her apartment. I told her if you want I can make you cum. So I grabbed her toys and proceeded to finger fuck her and stimulate her clit with her toy. Boy did she cum. I'the say she was a squirter. At least someone came that night. LOL By this time Mr E is calling me and wanting to know my status. Told him I'm finishing up and getting dressed. I meet up with him around the corner and we walk to the hotel. As were walking I see 2 sw and what appears to be a tranny. When I stop to chat with the 2 sw The tranny approaches me and tries to hug me. Damn tranny tries to pick pocket me! Nope! Not going to fall for that trick twice. That happened to me in Medellin near Veracruz a few years back. 2 trainees approached me and pickpocketed my iPhone 5 that I used as a local number. A good tip is to never let trainees get close to you. And always have your hand in your pockets when you walk the streets. Mr. E pulls me and say that's it. Let's get the fuck out of here. You are done. But I was like. " I haven't cum yet". It must've been close to 530 am when we get to the hotel. I crashed hard and wake up at like 930 hard as a rock. I eat breakfast and start looking at photoprepagodotcom for some action. Found a cutie that was close by. A 10 minute walk near the hotel. She was cute 19 years old sexy body girl next door face. Charge me 80 k for 45 minutes. All covered and great energy. Perfect release. Went back to the hotel slept a few more hours.
When I wake up I feel like taking an adventure. Mileroticos had ad for a new casa in the southern part of town. So I reach out to them on WhatsApp. And tell him I'm on my way. I used the app Picap for transportation. It's like Uber for motorcycles. Works great in Colombia. From el Centro Bogota to the south was 8 k. Not Bad considering a uber or taxi would be more expensive. You get your own helmet, hop on and ride. Kinda like the motorcycle taxis in Pattaya. When I arrive at the establishment the girls are getting ready. Again all of them were dark skinned Venezuelans. Blows my mind how they have taken over the hoe game in Colombia. Thank you Chavez and Maduro! Thank you thank you thank you For all the cheap pussy you have bestowed upon us. Great session with a young girl didn't ask her age but again dark skin young sexy body girl next-door face. I wanted a bbj. She said how much for tip. I said 10 k. She was like 20 k. Mmmmmm. Agreed. She proceeded to give me a decent bbj. Sex was just great. She got very wet. I really enjoyed her tight brown body. So far I'm having a blast in Bogota. But damn is it cold. I live in Florida so we are not used to this kind of weather.
I message big see From chi-town to see what he's up too. He was just getting his day started and was hungry. I told him I like fine dining establishments. We agreed and go to the place that was decent. Tabula Restaurant. Decent food and drinks in a nice part of town. I'the Call it modern Colombian cuisine. During dinner we're planning our Friday night. I expressed my interest to Big see about going to the clubs in the south. World travel69 has great up-to-date maps of Bogota. We paid our tab and get in a Uber. Took about 40 minutes to get there. But boy was it worth it. The southern clubs are all right next to each other. Guadalajara and Texas and a few other Strip clubs are on one side. The other side of the street there are more clubs one after the other. All with about 20 girl inside. 95 % Venezuelan hoes. Very few Colombianas. We met up with another guy from the forum that Mr E thought we should hang out with. He didn't meet him last time but said he was a cool dude. I forget his name on the forum and his real name. But a really nice Canadian dude that lives in Bogota. So it's me and 2 pink toes roaming the streets of the southern clubs. The door guys obviously see that I'm with two gringos. And are very pushy to have us come into the clubs they promote. A lot of touching and almost pushing you into the clubs. Guys be careful with your pockets. I'm not saying I got pickpocketed here but I could see the opportunity for a bad person to do that. After a while the door guys got really annoying. All the touching and almost forcing you to go in. It got Big see and me kinda of pissed off. I had to tell one door guy in Spanish to stop fucking touching us. From the door guys perspective. You see two Gringos walking down the strip you'the be fighting for their attention too. We make the rounds to all the clubs to see which one we were going to drink at. All the clubs have beer and I only have bottle service. You can't buy a shot of rum. The smallest bottle you can buy is the half bottle. At 60 K. One strip club was doing lap dances for 10 K. The girl goes to change. Puts on a bikini and proceeds to give me and my boys a lap dance. I think it was like two or three songs. I gave her another 5 k tip. She was grateful. We ordered a 1/2 bottle of rum and chill at this spot I can't remember the name. Big see had this Beautiful dark Venezuelan. She was 28 and man did she have some long sexy legs. My new Canadian friend picked a cute light skin girl. I think she may have been Colombiana. Anyway we all decide to get a lap dance from each girl we were with. We had a great time drinking and getting our respective lap dances. We continue to stroll the streets to see where we were going to drink next. There are at least 15 clubs on this strip. You really can't go wrong around here. We decide on this one club that's on the other side where Guadalajara and Texas are. We decided on the place because the girls were sexy and seemed friendly. Every single one of these girls are from Venezuela and seemed less harded. Compared to there santa fe conterpart. Big see quickly pick a light skinned Paisa looking girl. We sit down and order another half bottle of rum. I make my rounds to see who is going to sit with me. I pick a light skin spinner that when I first saw her gave me the stank eye. But after saying Hello, she quickly smiled. I said would you like seat with me. "Vamos". This girl didn't belong here. She was smart, classy and sexy in her ways. For me she was at 10. You continue to drink laugh and talk and finally start negotiating the deed. She charge 60 k for a short time. The rooms are terrible They don't even give you a towel or wipes to clean up. So my advice is to bring your own wipes. Session was great with kissing and lots of passion. We exchange numbers and made plans to hang out the next day. I'm so in love. LOL. Fucked up thing is I forgot to save her phone number. And never saw her again. Fuck! The three of us fucked our girls at that club. After we are finished we left. Took a cab to Santa Fe. Clubs close at 3 am but there after hours clubs and there's always girls on the street. I wanted one more pop so I picked one up from the street. Another 40 k session. She was small with a big ol' ass. Great fuck from behind. I didn't want my night to end so I asked her how much for TLN. She said 200 k. I'm like 80 k. She came back with 100 k but can only stay until 9 am. I said fine. As long as I pop another tonight and again in the morning I'm good. We went back to the hotel and I fucked her again. Doggy style because she has such a perfect ass. We were both exhausted. We took a shower and went to bed. I don't normally have them sleep over but for some reason I trusted her. She was asleep before I was. Again woke up a few hours later with my dick hard as a rock. I wake her up with a dick in her face. " chupa amor chupa" I say. But she ain't having it. Turns around and continues to sleep. I slept for a few more hours we wake up around 10 am and she's like oh shit I have to go. I say not without fucking me first. She didn't want to but I said I'm not paying you the 100 k if you don't fuck me in the morning. She quickly drops her panties and proceeds to ride me. Great morning session. Overall great Friday night. After I kick her out I go downstairs and see if the hotel is still providing breakfast. Nope breakfast ended at 10. So I go out for food. Came back and slept. By this time my new wing man Big see message me about the club we are going to for my last night. The main attraction was Pussy House Calle 61 13-64. Great middle end club with talent arriving throughout the night. When we got there it was a little slow. But boy did it pick up. Some really beautiful girls here. Mostly Colombianas. We ordered a full bottle that I think cost 150 k. Picked a Morena with glasses that was wearing a sexy red bikini. She love to drink and dance. We had a great time drinking and shootin the shit. She told me that she had to perform on the stage for 25 minutes. The stage runs the length of the club. It's set up similar to the strip clubs in the states. You go up to them Tip them for a dance. 2 k is the going tip. Yes 63 cents. LOL. Big see told me that there's a club across the street. So during my girls performance on stage I run across the street to check it out. I walk in and I'm like wow there's so many beautiful women here. The Venezuelan counterpart of Pussy house. I was looking for a girl that would give me a great blowjob. I made eye contact with a girl with nice thick lips. I approached her and said you look like you can suck a mean dick. She said. "Si me encanta". Perfect, my Spidey senses are still on point. She charged me 50 k. We walked out to next door where the rooms are. This place is all run by Venezuelans. I tip the door / cleaning guy 10 k to not knock on the door. Into the room and she immediately kisses me right on the lips. I mean deep French kissing. 100%GFE. Bbj without asking and no tipping. Put the condom on it and proceeded to fuck her missionary style. Pushing her legs back up against her. Her pussy was so tight that she made me cum after a view position. Perfect. We got dressed and ran back to pussy house. The morena I was drinking with was looking for me. Big see told her that I went out to get some food. Great alibi. We continue to drink and dance and tip the girls. I'm starting to get a little drunk and Big see let's me hit the pen. I got my mind right. I negotiate with my Morena. I think I paid 80 k but I honestly can't remember. Great covered session. Very sexual. But not GFE. But I enjoyed it because she had beautiful brown skin and a tight body. When we finish the bottle we pretty much leave Pussy house. Big see and I have one more pop in us. So we go where any normal horny guy would go to. Santa Fe! LOL. We walk around. I pick one. I think he picks one. We pretty much go our separate ways after that.
I thank Mr E for showing me the ropes of Santa Fe. On the forum Mr E comes across as a know it all. Almost asshole material. LOL. But that's because he does know it all. He's been everywhere. Showed me the ropes in Pattaya and Manila. Great guy.
I thank Big see for being my wingman for the short weekend. I'the say he's an expert in anything Santa Fe. His airbnb was literally five minutes away from ground zero Santa Fe. Great guy. We get along because we are both assholes, generous, and decent humans. For a guy that doesn't know Spanish he sure does get along great with the ladies. Goes to show you how good Google translate works if you have good game. But you have to have good game!
My overall experience of Bogota was great. I'the say between Medellin and Bogota. Bogota wins. Wins big! Just the number of clubs, Casas, escorts and Santa Fe. You really can't beat it. You really can stay in Santa Fe and not need anything else. There's just so much young pussy all the time. I kept saying hat Medellin has become tourist run and overpriced. And that's thanks to the dumb ass dudes that pay US dollar in Medellin. But for me I really don't monger in Medellin anymore. I have my GF there so I really have no need to go out and find pussy. But you always need sum strange. And Bogota definitely relieved my itch.
I rate Bogota a 9/10 for mongering. Only because the weather is cold compared to the city of eternal spring. I still consider Medellin my home. Bogota has a lot of culture, great restaurants and thinking to do during the day. Shout out to worldtravel69 for the maps. The maps are a big help. I felt safe in Santa Fe. But you do have to be careful. Definitely don't walk around drunk. And be aware of your surroundings. I didn't see a lot of drug addicts like you do in El Centro Medellin. But that never bothered me either. If you grew up in the inner-city or in a third world country. You can handle Santa Fe. I grew up in chocolate city in the 80's. So nothing phases me.
I hope my review helps my fellow monger. I'm out!!
Too Scary!
My overall experience of Bogota was great. I'the say between Medellin and Bogota. Bogota wins. Wins big! Just the number of clubs, Casas, escorts and Santa Fe. You really can't beat it. You really can stay in Santa Fe and not need anything else. There's just so much young pussy all the time. I kept saying hat Medellin has become tourist run and overpriced. And that's thanks to the dumb ass dudes that pay US dollar in Medellin.
I rate Bogota a 9/10 for mongering. Only because the weather is cold compared to the city of eternal spring. I didn't see a lot of drug addicts like you do in El Centro Medellin. But that never bothered me either. If you grew up in the inner-city or in a third world country. You can handle Santa Fe. I grew up in chocolate city in the 80's. So nothing phases me.
Sounds like a good time. You're right about Meddy and the capital sounds like a better option on many levels. Yeah, if you were in DC when U Street was full of addicts 24/7 then El Centro is probably no biggie. I may have to bite the bullet and hit Bogota soon. Guess I need a winter coat LOL.
Mr Enternational
04-05-19, 16:44
As we're walking the streets of Santa Fe I overhear some pink toes speaking English. I say hey where why'all from? Big see is from Chicago and I didn't get the name of the shady Russian Canadian. We make small talk and I expressed my desire to buy a blunt from the street guys. Weed smell all around me. Big see comes through big time and help me with some 420 oils that got my mind right. While we are smoke on the street I couldn't help but noticing this sexy Venezuelan thick'ems smoking a joint. She had a big ol' booty. You left the best part out. You told her to try dude from Chicago's vaporizer. She hit that shit and after that threw whatever she was smoking to the ground like it was a turd on fire. I could not stop laughing.
I thank Big see for being my wingman for the short weekend. I'd say he's an expert in anything Santa Fe. For a guy that doesn't know Spanish he sure does get along great with the ladies.Isn't that shit crazy man. While other guys on the board are so scared of Santa Fe, he was around there looking and acting like he owned it. And don't even speak Spanish. LOL.
That's how it should be. Seems like a trooper. Though I wouldn't stay in Sante Fe I see the benefits. I'm just to bougie. I got to get back to Bogota. This summer. Maybe solo. Fuck it.
You left the best part out. You told her to try dude from Chicago's vaporizer. She hit that shit and after that threw whatever she was smoking to the ground like it was a turd on fire. I could not stop laughing.
Isn't that shit crazy man. While other guys on the board are so scared of Santa Fe, he was around there looking and acting like he owned it. And don't even speak Spanish. LOL.
That's how it should be. Seems like a trooper. Though I wouldn't stay in Sante Fe I see the benefits. I'm just to bougie. I got to get back to Bogota. This summer. Maybe solo. Fuck it.It's a must. Don't fake on it.
You left the best part out. You told her to try dude from Chicago's vaporizer. She hit that shit and after that threw whatever she was smoking to the ground like it was a turd on fire. I could not stop laughing.
Isn't that shit crazy man. While other guys on the board are so scared of Santa Fe, he was around there looking and acting like he owned it. And don't even speak Spanish. LOL.I got her high asFuc. LOL!
Bogota got me hooked. I'm headed up there right now.
Do Not go to Coliseo Romano or the surrounding clubs of Fiebre or Castle Blue in 1 de Mayo!
Again, one of my friends (Latino- American) went to Coliseo Romano alone with a girl that works there. We always go there all the time as a group and we actually know her and drank with her 3 times in the past. The waiter is our friend but she (our waiter) wasn't working that day. He went alone and another waiter (named Armando) served him and the girl who we thought we knew was called Princesa Kay. My friend was drinking and talking to her and the next thing you know he only remembers being outside of the club trying to go back in because he doesn't have his phone to call an Uber. All the security guys and waiters outside were pushing him away from the street area. He said he recalled one waiter paying for his taxi (with the money he probably stole from him earlier) and put him in there. My friend doesn't recall the taxi ride but woke up in his hotel without his watch, gold chain, cell phone, money. And a very bruised and cut upper lip and wet pants. (he was drugged by the waiter and the girl was in on it. This surprised me a lot. When you think you know someone. He had the audacity to go back and ask for his stuff the next day and I accompanied him this time. We talked to the administrator, Pirncesa Kay and owner. Administrator basically accidentally admitted it while the owner said that no, my friend came drunk and went somewhere else and that's a lie blah blah blah very ferocious. The owner was a complete asshole. They said "besides the waiter who attended him is not here today". We were surrounded by like 20 guys (waiters and security guards who beat my friend up the day before) violently staring at us and telling us to leave for like 3 1/2 hours. The administrator wanted to compromise while the owner was a huge asshole to us. We just wanted his stuff back. They had us waiting for far too long so we had a plan up our sleeves, we would call the police and make them show the camera footage (12 cameras inside the club) and that will show how they robbed him.
So what happens next reminded me of the game of thrones scene when Ned stark confronts king Geoffrey with the paper seal / order of the dead king and Ned had the city watch join him and the city watch commander says "we stand behind you lord Stark" and Ned Stark walks in with authority.
We call the police (2 policemen arrive), and the first thing they do is greet the owner in a friendly way and by name because they know each other! (the owner literally pays them to keep the club open after hours which is illegal). The owner starts rambling on to them about us, how we lied and blah, blah. We tell the police we want to see the footage. The police tell him "let's see the footage". The owner says "fine I'll show you the footage and you'll see that they are lying" but he then says that he can't access them right now because of a pass code / password but it will be available tomorrow. The police says "well, that's all we can do. " My friend says "hes going to delete the footage! The police says "he can't delete the footage". The police tell us to come back tomorrow and check it. We leave and the next day and we file a report with the "Fiscialia"and they start a case and say the inspector / officer who will be in charge of this case will be in contact with us.
I'm not sure if going to the American Embassy will help.
My Colombian friend said that since he our friend is American then the Colombian Media will like this story and put this establishment on blast which is what we want but my friend doesn't feel comfortable having his name and face on the news of getting drugged / robbed in brothel club LOL.
But keep in mind all those guys who are waiters / security out there (Not just Coliseo Romano but Fiebre and Castle Blue) know each other and do the same things. I remember a year ago walking past these types of people and my other Colombian friend was wearing a sports jacket with his phone in the inner part inside of it. They were touching and pulling on us so hard to go in and one of them pick pocketed his cheap Chinese brand phone so we don't let them touch us ever since.
I have tried to purchase the and I cannot get to the page. I have sent emails but have not received a reply. Does anyone have a suggestion. Ty.
LurkLongTime
04-06-19, 15:15
When I wake up I feel like taking an adventure. Mileroticos had ad for a new casa in the southern part of town. So I reach out to them on WhatsApp. And tell him I'm on my way. I used the app Picap for transportation. It's like Uber for motorcycles. Works great in Colombia. From el Centro Bogota to the south was 8 k. Not Bad considering a uber or taxi would be more expensive. You get your own helmet, hop on and ride. Kinda like the motorcycle taxis in Pattaya. When I arrive at the establishment the girls are getting ready. Again all of them were dark skinned Venezuelans. Blows my mind how they have taken over the hoe game in Colombia. Thank you Chavez and Maduro! Thank you thank you thank you For all the cheap pussy you have bestowed upon us. Great session with a young girl didn't ask her age but again dark skin young sexy body girl next-door face. I wanted a BBJ. She said how much for tip. I said 10 k. She was like 20 k. Mmmmmm. Agreed. She proceeded to give me a decent BBJ. Sex was just great. She got very wet. I really enjoyed her tight brown body. So far I'm having a blast in Bogota. But damn is it cold. I live in Florida so we are not used to this kind of weather.
Great post brother! Do you mind PMing me the casa.
I am coming to Bogota in 2 weeks I would love to visit there.
Arrived late last night. MIA-BOG. Sped through immigration and customs. I like Bogot's airport. Modern and efficient. Book a room at the Hotel San Francisco de Asis. Approximate $83 for three nights including taxes On booking.com. Walking distance to Santa Fe And on the main Cra 10. Clean rooms with breakfast included. After freshening up I get a taxi using the app called Easy. A Cabify app. I think they have one for android too. Just search easy taxi. I tried using Uber but they were all 1520 minutes away. Cab fare from hotel to the southern clubs was 13 k. About a 20 minute drive Arrived at Avenida 1 de mayo. This is Ground Zero of all this south club. Club door staff continue to be pushy And try to get you to go into the clubs. I like going to all the clubs to find the right talent. Out of the 10 to 15 clubs there about five of them had real good talent. Again mostly Venezuelan is here but you do find some Colombian women. I found me a short light skin Venezuelan with dark hair. She kind a look like A paisa with her white skin and jet black hair. Just my luck she arrive today from buga. And was eager to sit down and have drinks We ordered a 1/2 bottle for 60 k. Man can she drink. We finish the bottle in lesson 45 minutes and straight to the room She charge 60 but waiting for the room a local told me that i should be paying only 40 here I'm like damn. Oh well lesson learned it only cost 40k down here. Into the room we go she quickly gets naked and I enjoy her pale white skin. I am a dark Hispanic so the contrast was excellent. She gave me a good covered blowjob in about three positions great provider knock on the door cleaned up I'm out. There are no bathrooms in these rooms so you have to bring wipes if you want to clean yourself up. It helps to take a little fanny pack. I think this place was called azafatas. I cross the street to Texas and Guadalajara. I wanted to go find a girl that I fell in love with last weekend and didn't save her number. If you keep walking south on the the same side there are another hand full of club. The one I was looking for takes you upstairs. The club is packed full of customers I walk around looking for my girl. I see her with another client. I'm like fuck now what. There were a few cute girls there but I didn't feel like staying.
Walked north towards Texas and Guadalajara both clubs full of girls and clients. There's one club right next to the gas station that doesn't have a name Door guy opens the door and you walk up the stairs. This place seems to specialize in really young dark skin Venezuelans. Ordered a beer and did my rounds. I start talking to this 18-year-old But her attitude with stank so I left and kept walking. At this point it's almost 3 am and by law they have to close the doors. Almost all the clubs continue to stay open but yet they have to be discreet about clientele going in and out. Cops can raid and close the place down so they pay them off. You can still drink and it basically turns into an after hours club Setting. Sometimes you have to wait a little while to leave because there might be cops outside or nearby. I entered another club and ordered another bottle with this Columbian chick from Santander. She didn't have a great face but she had a great attitude and sexy body. We dance laugh and had a jolly time. Finish the bottle and off to the room Now that I know it cost 40 I gave the girl to 20's and she looks at me and was like OK. Perfect I saved 20 k. LOL. Great session her pussy get really wet And loved getting fucked missionary. She would pull me towards her and hugs me as I'm pounding that pussy. Loved it. A few positions later we wrap up cleanup and roll out. I walk outside and it's daytime. Goddamn I pulled all nighter Go dcfan! After that took a cab back charge me 15 K I knew it was too much but I didn't complain I just wanted to go to my bed and sleep. No I'm laying in bed just finished breakfast and then going to continue sleeping might walk to Santa Fe a little bit later. The reason I go to the southern clubs because I feel like they're not as hardened. They tend to be more friendly and provide better service. Spanish is a must And just be safe out on the streets. Last weekend when I went out with the two pink toes we got a lot of attention. This time since I was alone it was a little more chill. Happy mongering!
Do Not go to Coliseo Romano or the surrounding clubs of Fiebre or Castle Blue in 1 de Mayo!
Again, one of my friends (Latino- American) went to Coliseo Romano alone with a girl that works there. We always go there all the time as a group and we actually know her and drank with her 3 times in the past. The waiter is our friend but she (our waiter) wasn't working that day. He went alone and another waiter (named Armando) served him and the girl who we thought we knew was called Princesa Kay. My friend was drinking and talking to her and the next thing you know he only remembers being outside of the club trying to go back in because he doesn't have his phone to call an Uber. All the security guys and waiters outside were pushing him away from the street area. He said he recalled one waiter paying for his taxi (with the money he probably stole from him earlier) and put him in there. My friend doesn't recall the taxi ride but woke up in his hotel without his watch, gold chain, cell phone, money..Damn I could have gotten drugged last night.
My friend was drinking and talking to her and the next thing you know he only remembers being outside of the club trying to go back in because he doesn't have his phone to call an Uber. All the security guys and waiters outside were pushing him away from the street area. He said he recalled one waiter paying for his taxi (with the money he probably stole from him earlier) and put him in there. My friend doesn't recall the taxi ride but woke up in his hotel without his watch, gold chain, cell phone, money. And a very bruised and cut upper lip and wet pants. (he was drugged by the waiter and the girl was in on it.
But keep in mind all those guys who are waiters / security out there (Not just Coliseo Romano but Fiebre and Castle Blue) know each other and do the same things. I remember a year ago walking past these types of people and my other Colombian friend was wearing a sports jacket with his phone in the inner part inside of it. They were touching and pulling on us so hard to go in and one of them pick pocketed his cheap Chinese brand phone so we don't let them touch us ever since.
I know guys that monger and go in sketchy hoods all the time in Colombia and say they've never had a problem so it's just a risk you knowingly take.
Stories like this are a reminder because no one thinks it could or would happen to them until it does. Good luck!
Mr Enternational
04-06-19, 19:05
I know guys that monger and go in sketchy hoods all the time in Colombia and say they've never had a problem so it's just a risk you knowingly take.
Stories like this are a reminder because no one thinks it could or would happen to them until it does. Good luck!Yep. But I definitely do not wear gold chains either. If they want this backpack with these baby wipes and condoms then they are welcomed to it.
Again, one of my friends (Latino- American) went to Coliseo Romano alone with a girl that works there. We always go there all the time as a group and we actually know her and drank with her 3 times in the past. The waiter is our friend but she (our waiter) wasn't working that day. He went alone and another waiter (named Armando) served him and the girl who we thought we knew was called Princesa Kay. My friend was drinking and talking to her and the next thing you know he only remembers being outside of the club trying to go back in because he doesn't have his phone to call an Uber. All the security guys and waiters outside were pushing him away from the street area. He said he recalled one waiter paying for his taxi (with the money he probably stole from him earlier) and put him in there. My friend doesn't recall the taxi ride but woke up in his hotel without his watch, gold chain, cell phone, money. And a very bruised and cut upper lip and wet pants. (he was drugged by the waiter and the girl was in on it. This surprised me a lot. When you think you know someone. He had the audacity to go back and ask for his stuff the next day and I accompanied him this time. We talked to the administrator, Pirncesa Kay and owner. Administrator basically accidentally admitted it while the owner said that no, my friend came drunk and went somewhere else and that's a lie blah blah blah very ferocious. The owner was a complete asshole. They said "besides the waiter who attended him is not here today". We were surrounded by like 20 guys (waiters and security guards who beat my friend up the day before) violently staring at us and telling us to leave for like 3 1/2 hours. The administrator wanted to compromise while the owner was a huge asshole to us. We just wanted his stuff back. They had us waiting for far too long so we had a plan up our sleeves, we would call the police and make them show the camera footage (12 cameras inside the club) and that will show how they robbed him.
Well this is obviously a pretty disturbing story and I'm sorry for what happened to your friend.
But I have to wonder once again, why are these things always happening to you and your friends in particular? Young guys can be very loud and overconfident when they go out, is this how you guys behave? You seem to make yourselves targets somehow anyway. Comparing what happened to your friend to a Game of Thrones scene seems pretty immature to me, sorry! And stop thinking waiters / waitresses in clubs are you're friends, obviously they're not from what happened to your friend! And maybe it would have been wiser to go back after having phoned the cops, and turn up with them. You guys were over-confident going back there alone, who knows what could have happened to you?
Just returned from a week in Bogota, third time there. I am a daytimer. As always, hard to believe the talent and price in Santa Fe. However, since my last visit 6 months ago, the prices have increased 25%. Not all, but some now ask 50 k, still plenty at 40 k. And the small local bars only charge 3 k for a cervesa. I digress. I prefer to walk and talk to the garage chicas, which IMO, are the best and most accommodating. All kinds of bodies and most eager to please. I walked from the Ibis everyday (twice), returning after dark, with no problems. Always negotiate, you never know.
Do Not go to Coliseo Romano or the surrounding clubs of Fiebre or Castle Blue in 1 de Mayo!
Again, one of my friends (Latino- American) went to Coliseo Romano alone with a girl that works there. We always go there all the time as a group and we actually know her and drank with her 3 times in the past. The waiter is our friend but she (our waiter) wasn't working that day. He went alone and another waiter (named Armando) served him and the girl who we thought we knew was called Princesa Kay. My friend was drinking and talking to her and the next thing you know he only remembers being outside of the club trying to go back in because he doesn't have his phone to call an Uber. All the security guys and waiters outside were pushing him away from the street area. He said he recalled one waiter paying for his taxi (with the money he probably stole from him earlier) and put him in there. My friend doesn't recall the taxi ride but woke up in his hotel without his watch, gold chain, cell phone, money. And a very bruised and cut upper lip and wet pants. (he was drugged by the waiter and the girl was in on it. This surprised me a lot. When you think you know someone. He had the audacity to go back and ask for his stuff the next day and I accompanied him this time. We talked to the administrator, Pirncesa Kay and owner. Administrator basically accidentally admitted it while the owner said that no, my friend came drunk and went somewhere else and that's a lie blah blah blah very ferocious. The owner was a complete asshole. They said "besides the waiter who attended him is not here today". We were surrounded by like 20 guys (waiters and security guards who beat my friend up the day before) violently staring at us and telling us to leave for like 3 1/2 hours. The administrator wanted to compromise while the owner was a huge asshole to us. We just wanted his stuff back. They had us waiting for far too long so we had a plan up our sleeves, we would call the police and make them show the camera footage (12 cameras inside the club) and that will show how they robbed him..I'm not going to speak to you like a child. Like the gentleman below but sometimes you slip up it could have been a lot worse for your boy. Thank you for telling us this news. We appreciate it, just a constant reminder to always stay in your toes. Bogota is definitely a good mine if you dodge all the BS but you have to follow the travel rules. Leave all the valuables at the crib. Watch ya pockets. And most importantly ya drinks. Kinda sucks you have to have ya guard up all the time. But it's worth it. Next time your boy knows. And big ups to you for trying to help him.
Actually if you walk south to Calle 20 there are chicas asking as little as $30,000. And many very nice. Also the strip clubs like Venus, Texas, California, Atones and La Casona have hot girls working for less.
Just returned from a week in Bogota, third time there. I am a daytimer. As always, hard to believe the talent and price in Santa Fe. However, since my last visit 6 months ago, the prices have increased 25%. Not all, but some now ask 50 k, still plenty at 40 k. And the small local bars only charge 3 k for a cervesa. I digress. I prefer to walk and talk to the garage chicas, which IMO, are the best and most accommodating. All kinds of bodies and most eager to please. I walked from the Ibis everyday (twice), returning after dark, with no problems. Always negotiate, you never know.
Actually if you walk south to Calle 20 there are chicas asking as little as $30,000. And many very nice. Also the strip clubs like Venus, Texas, California, Atones and La Casona have hot girls working for less.You paid to much. I paid 27 k for 20 min.lol.
VeryBadBanana
04-08-19, 04:47
Hello,
I am in Bogota working for the next two weeks. Looking for a Wingman to go and explore some clubs. Let me know.
Viajando Musico
04-08-19, 18:46
I was in Santa Fe a few different times in the past 2 months. Although I enjoyed each time when I was there, the effort to find the right girl differed significantly. For me, The best time to find an accommodating girl, especially girl on the higher end of the spectrum, with less effort in these clubs is between 5-10 PM during the week, meaning Mon. -Thu. Most clubs open at 4 PM except Atune which cater to early birds who prefer day time action. Some members might argue that weekends are better with larger # of available girls, I agree if you are with a group of friends in a party mode. My own experiences tell me the opposite. On weekends, the clubs have a lot more clients, and the girls are a lot busier than on weekdays, therefore, less attentive, and less willing to chat up. And of course, less inclined to your offers if your offers are lower than the going rate.
Street girls are not my focus when I went to Santa Fe, so I am only talking about the club scene.
MamalaPenga
04-08-19, 19:10
Hello,
I am in Bogota working for the next two weeks. Looking for a Wingman to go and explore some clubs. Let me know.I'm here today and tomorrow, if you're up to meeting up.
Does anyone know if any female "Little People" (dwarfs) that offer services in Bogota? Not sure why this appeals to me, but it does. One of those bucket list type of things.
Does anyone know if any female "Little People" (dwarfs) that offer services in Bogota? Not sure why this appeals to me, but it does. One of those bucket list type of things.I just got back and have to write that up- Unbelievable Monday action. As far as midgets there are 2 that work in SF south. I saw one tonight as I was leaving one of the motels there.
I will write up my encounters for today / tonight later.
Does anyone know if any female "Little People" (dwarfs) that offer services in Bogota? Not sure why this appeals to me, but it does. One of those bucket list type of things.If you mean the type with distorsions in proportions (big head, small arms and legs) I have never seen it in Bogota. If you just mean "small", it's quite comun to find girls below 1. 50 m or even 1. 40 m in the Bogota's monger scene. It's not always obvious as they wear high heels to hide it, most local clients don't share your preference.
I was showing a guy around Monday afternoon, lot a nice street action. Nice 18-20 somethings strutting their stuff. At least 50-60 or so.
I ended up sessioning with a Really pretty 19 yo old with big DD naturals for $40 mil. I will repeat with her soon, Love those big natural gozangas!!
In SF South there were about 60+ girls. Some real hotties there too. I met a hot pretty 19 yo old (no kids) light skin black girl with that long curly hair. She looked like a debutante / cheerleader. She just arrived 2 weeks ago.
She told me $26 mil and I up-sold her and got a BBBJ to completion CIM for $36 mil. ($12).
I guess she liked me because she was playing with my cock for 5-10 minutes after I blew my load.
The Tall Man
04-10-19, 00:51
I was showing a guy around Monday afternoon, lot a nice street action. Nice 18-20 somethings strutting their stuff. At least 50-60 or so.
I ended up sessioning with a Really pretty 19 yo old with big DD naturals for $40 mil. I will repeat with her soon, Love those big natural gozangas!!
In SF South there were about 60+ girls. Some real hotties there too. I met a hot pretty 19 yo old (no kids) light skin black girl with that long curly hair. She looked like a debutante / cheerleader. She just arrived 2 weeks ago.
She told me $26 mil and I up-sold her and got a BBBJ to completion CIM for $36 mil. ($12).
I guess she liked me because she was playing with my cock for 5-10 minutes after I blew my load.Damn woodman your posts keep urging me to return back to SF. I recall last October and the street scene was good to great but sounds like it has even picked up since then in terms of quantity and quality?
I recall that you mentioned to me back in October when we met that you had a room available, did I understand you correctly? I was staying at the san francisco hotel at the time.
The Tall Man.
I was showing a guy around Monday afternoon, lot a nice street action. Nice 18-20 somethings strutting their stuff. At least 50-60 or so.
I ended up sessioning with a Really pretty 19 yo old with big DD naturals for $40 mil. I will repeat with her soon, Love those big natural gozangas!!
In SF South there were about 60+ girls. Some real hotties there too. I met a hot pretty 19 yo old (no kids) light skin black girl with that long curly hair. She looked like a debutante / cheerleader. She just arrived 2 weeks ago.
She told me $26 mil and I up-sold her and got a BBBJ to completion CIM for $36 mil. ($12).
I guess she liked me because she was playing with my cock for 5-10 minutes after I blew my load.Now that's what I'm talkin' about!
Damn woodman your posts keep urging me to return back to SF. I recall last October and the street scene was good to great but sounds like it has even picked up since then in terms of quantity and quality?
I recall that you mentioned to me back in October when we met that you had a room available, did I understand you correctly? I was staying at the san francisco hotel at the time.
The Tall Man.Hey TM,
I just got back right now, 2nd night in a row. 5 hours walking all over SF. The South side and the all over the main part. La Casona, Troya, Paisa, and Fiebre. The quality is the same or better. I will right up a post about tonight later.
Get here before all these damn gringos F everything up.
PM me when you get a chance.
I just got back and have to write that up- Unbelievable Monday action. As far as midgets there are 2 that work in SF south. I saw one tonight as I was leaving one of the motels there.
I will write up my encounters for today / tonight later.Thanks for the info!
The Tall Man
04-10-19, 17:51
Hey TM,
I just got back right now, 2nd night in a row. 5 hours walking all over SF. The South side and the all over the main part. La Casona, Troya, Paisa, and Fiebre. The quality is the same or better. I will right up a post about tonight later.
Get here before all these damn gringos F everything up.
PM me when you get a chance.Thanks woodman, I will send you a pm when I pull the trigger and head south-east (ie MDE to BGT).
The Tall Man.
Hey TM,
Get here before all these damn gringos F everything up..That's funny!
You write posts enticing and encouraging guys to come, then you write that they're going to F it up, LOL.
In SF South there were about 60+ girls. Some real hotties there too. I met a hot pretty 19 yo old (no kids) light skin black girl with that long curly hair. She looked like a debutante / cheerleader. She just arrived 2 weeks ago.
I'm jealous. You have the distinct edge of knowing who is new. Do you ever hit that sweet timing where the girl is basically an amateur in SF?
The Tall Man
04-11-19, 17:50
Hey TM,
I just got back right now, 2nd night in a row. 5 hours walking all over SF. The South side and the all over the main part. La Casona, Troya, Paisa, and Fiebre. The quality is the same or better. I will right up a post about tonight later.
Get here before all these damn gringos F everything up.
PM me when you get a chance.Woodman. Will the bars and clubs all close during semana santa? As I understand it it runs from Thursday through Sunday, what the santa fe scene like then?
The Tall Man.
I'm jealous. You have the distinct edge of knowing who is new. Do you ever hit that sweet timing where the girl is basically an amateur in SF?Last to times I was in SF I couldn't find a rookie. But there were tons of newbies in hte southern clubs. Thats why I go to the south clubs.
Mr Enternational
04-11-19, 20:27
Woodman. Will the bars and clubs all close during semana santa? As I understand it it runs from Thursday through Sunday, what the santa fe scene like then?.I don't know about bars or clubs, but there will definitely be women. Most of the chicks there now came from Venezuela because they are in dire straits. They have nowhere to go during holidays except the same rooms they go to every night. They do not have time to sit around celebrating holidays. They have to make all the money they can to support themselves and to send to their families back home.
I'm jealous. You have the distinct edge of knowing who is new. Do you ever hit that sweet timing where the girl is basically an amateur in SF?I remember meeting a Beautiful 18 yo Colombian, blue eyed brunette super white skin just a living doll with big DDs and I remember seeing those and just hearing angels sing. I don't know if she was totally new but she was so compliant and did everything I wanted. Seemed to enjoy it.
But I have met so many girls in SF and it seems to me there are always new girls. I will hook up with some random hot Veneca and ask ¿Cuando llegaste? Many times they will say 2 -6 months ago and I had just never seen her before. But even at a few months these girls are still not hard. I have so many girls pissed off at me because I haven't fucked them for 2 weeks because of other hoes. Because there are always new girls! LOL!
I want to say that picking hoes is an art. To fulfill your sexual agenda is not a done deal with hoes. These girls want to be romanced, and if they don't, you don't want to fuck them.
My approach is to really talk to them and get all smaltzy and see what they do. If there not buying into my BS I know that I should probably walk.
You should be ready to walk up to the moment of payment.
Friend2017
04-12-19, 06:04
Hello,
I am in Bogota working for the next two weeks. Looking for a Wingman to go and explore some clubs. Let me know.Check out this list of Bogotá casas, hooker bars and nightclubs:
https://doncolombia.com/mapas/bogota.html
Regards.
Woodman. Will the bars and clubs all close during semana santa? As I understand it it runs from Thursday through Sunday, what the santa fe scene like then?
The Tall Man.Since 98% of traffic in SF is Colombians, I think most clubs will be shutdown during SS. Just like Christmas.
But just as Mr Enternational says there are so many girls living here there is bound to be some action.
The Tall Man
04-12-19, 08:28
I remember meeting a Beautiful 18 yo Colombian, blue eyed brunette super white skin just a living doll with big DDs and I remember seeing those and just hearing angels sing. I don't know if she was totally new but she was so compliant and did everything I wanted. Seemed to enjoy it.
But I have met so many girls in SF and it seems to me there are always new girls. I will hook up with some random hot Veneca and ask Cuando llegaste? Many times they will say 2 -6 months ago and I had just never seen her before. But even at a few months these girls are still not hard. I have so many girls pissed off at me because I haven't fucked them for 2 weeks because of other hoes. Because there are always new girls! LOL!
I want to say that picking hoes is an art. To fulfill your sexual agenda is not a done deal with hoes. These girls want to be romanced, and if they don't, you don't want to fuck them.
My approach is to really talk to them and get all smaltzy and see what they do. If there not buying into my BS I know that I should probably walk.
You should be ready to walk up to the moment of payment.Your lips to gods ears, splendid surprises at every turn.
The Tall Man.
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