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I have no idea where you are getting those directions. You need to search the Bogota FAQ thread (not this thread) for the "Bogota FAQ October 2018" post. It is exhaustively comprehensive and includes 3 links to Google maps for all of the P4 P destinations. Abadubai Spa is in the north near the upscale and safe nightlife area of Zona T, about a 30 minute Uber ride north of Candelaria. It is near Calle 77, not 11. Maybe you need reading glasses. The exact address is: Carrera 12a #77 a-25. That means on Carrera 12a, near the intersection with Calle 77.Thanks for setting me straight. I found the Abadubai Spa facebook page, but their pointer on the map feature is way off. I now notice they do list the proper address. I'll definitely take a look at that FAQ, thanks.
I will be in Bogota July 10th-15th. Will be staying in Ibis. Another friend woodman will join on the 11th. Will be visiting SF and other places in the north.
Would be great if anyone from the forum will be there around these days.
Thanks.
NeilGeorge
05-28-19, 18:46
I used to get a blocked nose from Viagra, never had an issue with Kamagra gel, or Cialis. Legit Cialis is OTC in Bogota pharmacies.Cialis seems to work for me too. No stuffy nose. Sometimes I take a small 25 MG. Of Viagra, it seems to help and not stuff up the nose so much, so I can breath.
Greetings all,....
Last week SF was pretty good. I'm not one for the streetie sweeties so I spent Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday night going back and forth between Troya, Paisas, Fiebre, etc. As continuously reported by everyone else, the quality is pretty great. Usually at least 20 girls in each place. I personally prefer Troya because the waiters are less aggressive and the quality of girls is generally pretty high. The overall highest quality IMO is at Fiebre late night. It seems everyone flocks there and unless you pay for a table there's only standing room. This was the case even on a Tuesday night. Prices are pretty standard across the board. Expect to pay 70 k /20 min regardless of which club you're in. Also expect one of the cleaning ladies upstairs to ask you for a propina.Actually, a lot of those girls will accept happily 60 mil if you can bargain with them in Spanish.
I notice a lot of girls will circulate among Paisa, Troya, Fiebre.
I really do like Venus, La Casona and Atonis, often newer girls there and sessions for 50 mil lapdances 10-15 mil.
Tipping maids, 1 or 2 mil is what I tip. They may not knock as quick.
Safety: I was with friends in Zona Rosa but was alone in SF. Watch yourself around there and don't stay out too late on your own. Inside the clubs are safe, but don't get lost trying to wander around finding new places. My advice would be to stick to the main streets, and when in doubt only walk down busy streets. If you are walking back to your hotel from SF as I sometimes do keep one hand in your pocket, move with a purpose, and keep your head up. Once you reach the main streets outside SF there is generally military police or regular police presence. Every night I walked back to Ibis I saw military police on the main road going North-South. Once I saw them I knew I was good, but there's a 5-7 minute walk once leaving SF where you're moving at your own risk. When in doubt, take a taxi. *I'm a young, fit, black male so I'm not exactly the go-to target, therefore take this advice at your own risk*..In the North it seems like there is more gringo hunting with more serious players.
Be aware of people who are checking you out, following.
If you are not street wise do not walk from SF at night. Especially after 9 pm. I blend in and appear to be a more difficult target. In 5 yrs I have rarely cabbed the 4 block distance home. Have not had any real problems. On occasion I have noticed a few guys checking me out. I usually will give them a bit of a stare back and maybe a nod.
Language: I don't speak Spanish. I know the basic phrases to ask for beer, the check, and "how much. " Getting around isn't as hard as some make it. Either use your phone as a translator, find a waiter who speaks English (many do in SF), or wing it the best you can. Download an app (Google Translate) that does instant translations and you'll be fine.Spanish really can make a difference in the quality of your trip. I recommend Pimsleur Conversational Spanish for English speakers 90 MP3 lessons in 3 levels. Each lesson like a 20 minute class.
There is much more to say about the clubs, unfortunately I have to go. Will post more later. WoodMan is in the wind.
Mr Enternational
05-29-19, 00:46
Last week SF was pretty good. I'm not one for the streetie sweeties so I spent Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday night going back and forth between Troya, Paisas, Fiebre, etc.Always hilarious since many of those chicks walk back and forth. Street one minute, inside the club another minute. You guys just don't get it. Same damn girls! LOL.
Hello mates,
I will be in Bogota from 29 - 30th, and would like to know if ibis Mueso, is girl friendly?
Have any one stayed there.
Always hilarious since many of those chicks walk back and forth. Street one minute, inside the club another minute. You guys just don't get it. Same damn girls! LOL.Right, and usually for $40 mil!
A few notes on the Mezzanine.
I had three very similar sessions. Very pretty women, pretty faces, small, yet saggy breasts, slender figures. Let's say 6 or 7. Good actresses, they must be coached, as the sessions were similar.
I did see one real hottie, but she quoted 150 so I went to a back up. My advice, take your time and checkout each section. The girls seem to calm down if everyone gets to make their pitch. Overall it is an awesome value, an hour for 80-100 k.
Now my question. What's the play if I don't want value? Prices are so cheap, I would like to find the unicorn. Smoking hot, great attitude, real GFE (covered) and in this market, I would be happy to pay the premium. Any ideas for finding a true professional (in a good way).
Hello mates,
I will be in Bogota from 29 - 30th, and would like to know if ibis Mueso, is girl friendly?
Have any one stayed there.Ibis is the unofficial ISG hotel!
A few notes on the Mezzanine.
I had three very similar sessions. Very pretty women, pretty faces, small, yet saggy breasts, slender figures. Let's say 6 or 7. Good actresses, they must be coached, as the sessions were similar.
I did see one real hottie, but she quoted 150 so I went to a back up. My advice, take your time and checkout each section. The girls seem to calm down if everyone gets to make their pitch. Overall it is an awesome value, an hour for 80-100 k.
Now my question. What's the play if I don't want value? Prices are so cheap, I would like to find the unicorn. Smoking hot, great attitude, real GFE (covered) and in this market, I would be happy to pay the premium. Any ideas for finding a true professional (in a good way).Try this one: www.nanxingspa.com.co. Excellent facilities and the most impressive line-uyp you can find in Bogota's massage parlours.
A few notes on the Mezzanine.
I had three very similar sessions. <snip>
I did see one real hottie, but she quoted 150 so I went to a back up. My advice, take your time and checkout each section. The girls seem to calm down if everyone gets to make their pitch. Overall it is an awesome value, an hour for 80-100 k.
Now my question. What's the play if I don't want value? Prices are so cheap, I would like to find the unicorn. Smoking hot, great attitude, real GFE (covered) and in this market, I would be happy to pay the premium. La Mezzanine does have potential. It is also an under reported venue compared to Santa Fe.
You saw a hottie at Mezzanine, but passed on her since she quoted 150 K. Then you say you can pay a premium for a hot, GFE.
Please clarify this contradiction.
~BKKguru
La Mezzanine does have potential. It is also an under reported venue compared to Santa Fe.
You saw a hottie at Mezzanine, but passed on her since she quoted 150 K. Then you say you can pay a premium for a hot, GFE.
Please clarify this contradiction.
~BKKguru1) I am both a hypocrite and an idiot.
2) Never pull the hottest girl in a lineup if you want a good attitude. Dumb probably but it seems accurate.
Mr Enternational
05-31-19, 03:59
Then you say you can pay a premium for a hot, GFE.How would you know it was going to be a GFE before the action had started? You usually find out a chick is GFE after the price has already been set. Unless he is talking about paying her more the next time. But why offer to pay more for the same thing that you are getting for less?
I'm currently booked at the Tequendama. But I wondered if there were a place around Parque 93 that meets all my needs:
1. Girl Friendly. No fee in the daytime, less than 60,000 overnight. Or as close to that bogey as possible.
2. Great WiFi. I'm willing to pay more to have a business hotel where I can consistently use Verizon's WiFi calling on my phone.
If those two are impossible to meet around Parque 93, are there hotels in other nice areas that would work?
How would you know it was going to be a GFE before the action had started? You usually find out a chick is GFE after the price has already been set. Unless he is talking about paying her more the next time. But why offer to pay more for the same thing that you are getting for less?GFE happens, paying more does not necessarily create a connection with your ho. I have had GFE paying $10 and some of the hottest girls too.
That is why speaking Spanish can make your experience 10 x + Better.
A wad of cash guarantees nothing. Persuasion counts for more.
How would you know it was going to be a GFE before the action had started? You usually find out a chick is GFE after the price has already been set. Unless he is talking about paying her more the next time. But why offer to pay more for the same thing that you are getting for less?It used to be there were regulars in Arg Priv, who could be relied on. In other locations, there were certain locations where the girls were well coached and selected.
Greetings all,
I have been in Bogota the past week and enjoying the scenery (even with the rain last week). Started off the week at Ibis Hotel and eventually made my way up to Zona Rosa (Hotel B3 Virrey) for the weekend. Both hotels are guest friendly. On Thursday I saw a guy sign in a guest at Ibis in the middle of the day, shamelessly, in front of everyone. Whoever you are. Respect.
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Walked to Mezzanine 14 as well and wasn't as enthused by what I saw and decided to pass on a massage there. The quality was 5-7 but I felt like I was being swarmed immediately as I walked up the stairs. It made the whole experience uncomfortable so I just walked away.
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Lastly, as much as I'd like to meet up with other members, I didn't get a membership before departing on this trip so I don't have the PM feature. My mistake. Thanks for sharing your experience. Newbies should note the safety tips in your report for Santa Fe.
Hotel B3 Virrey: I have never stayed here. Based on feedback from others, I believe they have a Guest "Fee" policy (at least on paper).
Are you saying you were not charged for bringing a Guest back? Did you see other guys bring back girls? Can this Hotel be declared "Guest Friendly"?
La Mezzanine 14: Yes, the first time can be a little overwhelming. Give it another try. Walk around and take your time.
The big negative for me is the Casket like room. Hopefully, you are not claustrophobic!
Look forward to your second update. Thanks again!
~BKKguru
World Travel 69
05-31-19, 16:04
Centro Internacional, Transversal 6 #27-85.
Tel: +57 1 3814666. https://hotelibisbogotamuseo.com-bogota.com/en/.
I added it to the Map.
Ibis is the unofficial ISG hotel!
World Travel 69
05-31-19, 16:11
The problem is that it is at the North end of the action.
It is a very nice, safe area.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1Y7d556oDwhh_X83ZCec7ItKPaXQ&ll=4.703917719107191%2C-74.04561860000001&z=13
I'm currently booked at the Tequendama. But I wondered if there were a place around Parque 93 that meets all my needs:
1. Girl Friendly. No fee in the daytime, less than 60,000 overnight. Or as close to that bogey as possible.
2. Great WiFi. I'm willing to pay more to have a business hotel where I can consistently use Verizon's WiFi calling on my phone.
If those two are impossible to meet around Parque 93, are there hotels in other nice areas that would work?
The problem is that it is at the North end of the action.
It is a very nice, safe area.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1Y7d556oDwhh_X83ZCec7ItKPaXQ&ll=4.703917719107191%2C-74.04561860000001&z=13Agreed. I plan on spending a significant amount of time around Santa Fe. But I wanted to see if I could get a place in a really nice area where I didn't need my guard up all the time and I could bring back 1-2 photoprepagos girls every day between my Santa Fe trips.
World Travel 69
06-01-19, 01:08
Try this. More action in the area and safe.
Zona Rosa area
Saint Simon, Carrera 14 # 81-34, a block from C.C. Atlantis. Rates: Lowest price $US44. Tel: 621 8188. Fax: 618-4279. Email: reservas@saintsimonbogota.com https://www.hotels.com/ho364754/hotel-saint-simon-bogota-colombia/?dateless=true.
Agreed. I plan on spending a significant amount of time around Santa Fe. But I wanted to see if I could get a place in a really nice area where I didn't need my guard up all the time and I could bring back 1-2 photoprepagos girls every day between my Santa Fe trips.
Hi ya all,
My first time in this forum, and my first time in Bogota as well. I am going to stay over the week and am naturally looking for chicks.
I am reading through your reviews and pinned down some interesting place where I will walk my naked-friend. I am just wondering if there is anyone who is willing to go together exploring nightclubs of Bogota.
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KilledSoul
06-04-19, 21:53
Try this. More action in the area and safe.
Zona Rosa area
Saint Simon, Carrera 14 # 81-34, a block from C.C. Atlantis. Rates: Lowest price $US44. Tel: 621 8188. Fax: 618-4279. Email: reservas@saintsimonbogota.com https://www.hotels.com/ho364754/hotel-saint-simon-bogota-colombia/?dateless=true.
Agreed. I plan on spending a significant amount of time around Santa Fe. But I wanted to see if I could get a place in a really nice area where I didn't need my guard up all the time and I could bring back 1-2 photoprepagos girls every day between my Santa Fe trips.
Can someone comment on their experience with girls of photoprepagos? Do they give good service and are they GFE? And do they look like their pics? In Asia (Jakarta) usually girls do not look anything like the girl in the pic because its usually run by some agency.
MjTravelLove
06-05-19, 04:18
Try this one: www.nanxingspa.com.co. Excellent facilities and the most impressive line-uyp you can find in Bogota's massage parlours.Do they offer BBBJ? What are the going rates at this establishment.
Thanks!
MjT.
Can someone comment on their experience with girls of photoprepagos? Do they give good service and are they GFE? And do they look like their pics? In Asia (Jakarta) usually girls do not look anything like the girl in the pic because its usually run by some agency.Sample size 2, but so far hit and miss.
1. Booked one got bait and switched, but I think the switch was a marked upgrade. Natalia (her photoprepagos name) was curvy and enthusiastic, real GFE. Darker than the photos, but that girl. Popped twice, one slow and intimate, the second hard and fast. A real champ. Really nice girl. It is like a minor league agency with a few girls sharing a place.
2. Salome. Definitely the girl in the pics, super hot body, toned and tight. And like a dead fish. Then picked up her phone 10 seconds after the finish. Didn't ask for two. Also shared the place with another girl.
Another data point for the super hotties don't work for it and the hot but not smoking give the GFE.
Carlosalves
06-05-19, 14:30
I don't arrive until April 5 but Check with Woodman.I'm going to visit Bogota next month and would like to meet some girls, they gave me a page and I'd like to know if anyone knows.
https://co.skokka.com/encuentros/bogota/
SallySally
06-06-19, 02:21
Just an unsolicited tip, I think paying 300 k for a facebook girl is way too much. You can find similar quality girls in centro and in casas de citas. The minimum wage / pension in Colombia is around 850 k peso / month; some of the girls in the smaller casas de citas usually make around minimum wage every month (they get 25 k-30 k / polvo). Some of these girls will gladly spend the whole night with you for 150 k pesos. But obviously some negotiation has to be done.
Alternatively there is a huge influx of venezuelans that are trying to make money, these girls will also gladly spend the whole night with you for 150 k. Where to find them? Literally on any street in centro look for the girls walking around selling candy and ask them.
The political situation in Venezuela is creating an interesting, and incredibly cheap sex market in Colombia. Idk anywhere else in the world you can get this quality of girl for so incredibly cheap.
KangarooTed
06-06-19, 10:01
Can someone comment on their experience with girls of photoprepagos? Do they give good service and are they GFE?Depends, I had an great GFE from a 19 yr old from Miloeroticas. Later that week she wanted me to take her to Monserate.
Realistically tho, when you're just getting a random off the internet you never know.
Usually works for me, but obviously helps if you look good etc. Etc.
I'm going to visit Bogota next month and would like to meet some girls, they gave me a page and I'd like to know if anyone knows.
https://co.skokka.com/encuentros/bogota/I'ts always a crapshoot, But that Daniella is Hot. https://co.skokka.com/escorts/bogota/linda-flaca-100-ninfomana-7uwr263154089/.
Read Routards post from last year (I think) you can visit Chapinero massage places or Casas then go to clubs in the evening. I have never done Santa Fe but want to visit, but am always solo.
I have used Mileroticos in Medellin and been pretty happy.
I'm going to visit Bogota next month and would like to meet some girls, they gave me a page and I'd like to know if anyone knows.
https://co.skokka.com/encuentros/bogota/
SunnyPatel
06-09-19, 21:27
Are there any agencies or links to girls who are 8's or above? Don't really care to much about price.
It's going down!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCOaBWOG4oQ
Are there any agencies or links to girls who are 8's or above? Don't really care to much about price.If you do not care about price, the WORLD is your playground.
Recommend you go to Moscow or Zurich or Hong Kong. Plenty of 8's in these locations.
Contribute to this Forum by posting your experience(s) first. You will get a better response to your Questions.
BKKguru.
I'ts always a crapshoot, But that Daniella is Hot. https://co.skokka.com/escorts/bogota/linda-flaca-100-ninfomana-7uwr263154089/..Daniella looks exactly like the street sweetie you posted in your report 6686.
Daniella looks exactly like the street sweetie you posted in your report 6686.Hey,
That is a different girl, Anyhow the girl Daniella is nice, and there are many, many hotter streetie sweeties in Santa Fe.
I have been doing more tours and the SF action is even better. I need to write a report. So many new observations.
Blue Touch
06-11-19, 22:26
Today, I exited the calle 63 station and visited the casas on the addresses below. The last casa was Chica 2000. The quality of all casas were mediocre at best. They had about 20 girls per casa, and the price was around 27 k /20 m, 35 k /30 m. There are 0-2 doables at every casa depending on your taste. But except Chica 2000, the lights were dim and it was hard to look at the girls' appearance carefully. I chose Jesica at C2000. Though she was very nice, she told me that kissing breasts and other places would cost 20 k each. This was turn-off since the girls I knew have not charged these things, and I just finished the session quickly and left. Overall I prefer Santa Fe girls and Medellin casa girls. They are much eager to please me.
CL 64 #15-30.
Cr 15 #66-17.
Cr 15 #66-22.
Cr 15 #67-24.
CL 71 #14 A-23.
Here's a quick video I shot in my area close to SF.
https://youtu.be/XC2-kgVBn-Y
Just got back from a week in Bogota. I stayed in La Macarena which is a 5 k-8 k peso taxi into Santa Fe. The street sweeties were most impressive this visit. I got a personnel record high of 3260 cop per dollar. Did a couple of TLN with some past providers for 250 k for 7 pm-7 am. Another good week in Bogota for the Stain.
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Just got back from a week in Bogota. I stayed in La Macarena which is a 5 k-8 k peso taxi into Santa Fe. The street sweeties were most impressive this visit. I got a personnel record high of 3260 cop per dollar. Did a couple of TLN with some past providers for 250 k for 7 pm-7 am. Another good week in Bogota for the Stain.That's Streetie Sweeties, and they are better than ever.
Taiwan Laowai
06-14-19, 23:28
I was in Bogota a few days ago and spent several days.
- Stayed in San Francisco Hotel: Great value for money at just $20 per night for a comfortable hotel with good breakfast, great location on border of decent neighborhood and Santa Fe.
- Met up with Woodman and Dfcan. Woodman toured me around Santa Fe for first time and Dfcan took me to an unnamed casa. Woodman also gave me some useful local information.
- Also visited Abadubai Spa as recommended by a couple posters here.
- Positives.
A. Food, drinks, transport, accommodation, and pharmaceuticals very inexpensive. Short term action also very affordable in Santa Fe as we all know.
B. Climate: Surprisingly comfortable with just a hoodie. Daytime highs in 60's and nighttime lows in 40's so I was expecting to need a thicker coat. But perhaps the lower atmospheric pressure at Bogota's high altitude makes it feel less cold than it would closer to sea level at same temperature. Also, the altitude didn't seem to bother me even though I thought it might.
C. Working girls I saw here seem never to refuse guys unlike in Thailand or Philippines where they can be very picky or just not in the mood. I know guys in Angeles City who get rejected a lot more than accepted. Some girls only go with guys they find reasonably attractive and some only go when they feel like it (not distracted dancing w friends, etc.).
D. Some of the girls in Santa Fe are surprisingly sexy given how gritty and ghetto the area appears. Majority are probably Venezuelans.
- Negatives.
A. Rushed service non-GFE service in Santa Fe. You only get 20 minutes in theory but in reality, that loud knock comes after 10 or max 15 minutes.
B. Overwhelming majority of girls I saw had some body damage due to having had one or more kids. I think I only met one who was not a mom. I think best strategy to reduce this issue is to go for the youngest looking girls standing around Calle 24 and Cra. 16 if I remember area right.
C. In Abudubai, the 5 or 6 who presented appeared not so young (probably single mums) and too skinny for my taste. I opted for just a straight massage which they offered at 80 mil. I gave 90 and they never returned change.
D. The. The un-named casa I went to with Dfcan had what I consider 4's to maybe one or two 6's and I think all were single mums.
E. Bogota tends to be cloudy and grey even in dry season.
F. W exception of Santa Fe, I think much of the action is spread out over dozens of casas all over the city. Each casa has only 5-20 girls so there is no one stop central market ala Rio in old days w Help and a few of the top Termas.
Questions to the experienced Colombia hands:
1. What is best area in this country to find thicker and taller (think certain Dominican Republic or Brazilian types)? I first thought of Buena Ventura but Tall Man told me attitude is bad there. He actually recommended certain clubs in Centro of Medellin for that type (I sent him photos).
2. For average looking middle aged gringos who stay in Colombia long term, how easy or difficult have you found it to establish close relationships with much younger local girls from reasonable class and w / out kids. Is it anything like the Philippines in that regard? I'm not saying Philippines is easy and majority of guys go for the lower class bargirl types. But for those who put in the effort. , it's possible to get close with more middle class types there.
I suspect that to get more GFE type experiences in Bogota with higher quality girls or at least those w no kids, you need to stay much longer and slowly build a network through online work and hit-and-miss at the many casas, etc.
I left Bogota on June 11 and am now checking out Cucuta. I've been texting with Tall Man for some pointers and he's given me some great advice. Will report on Cucuta separately soon.
I was in Bogota a few days ago and spent several days.
- Stayed in San Francisco Hotel: Great value for money at just $20 per night for a comfortable hotel with good breakfast, great location on border of decent neighborhood and Santa Fe.
- Met up with Woodman and Dfcan. Woodman toured me around Santa Fe for first time and Dfcan took me to an unnamed casa. Woodman also gave me some useful local information.
- Also visited Abadubai Spa as recommended by a couple posters here.
- Positives.
A. Food, drinks, transport, accommodation, and pharmaceuticals very inexpensive.Nice fun trip you had. Can you share some of the photos? Do you think with rush of gringos prices going up?
Mr Enternational
06-15-19, 04:01
I think best strategy to reduce this issue is to go for the youngest looking girls standing around Calle 24 and Cra. 16 if I remember area right.That is actually a horrible strategy since there are many chicks out that are not old enough.
What is best area in this country to find thicker and taller (think certain Dominican Republic or Brazilian types)?Colombia is neither DR nor Brazil, so you really should not go there with that in mind. But if you twisted my arm, then I would say somewhere along the coast, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Santa Marta. (What is in my mind is normal chicks that I have met or seen over the years. I can not speak for P4P.)
how easy or difficult have you found it to establish close relationships with much younger local girls from reasonable class and w / out kids.That would depend on you. If you are talking about paying someone, then most younger chicks that don't have kids will not be interested IMHO. Most chicks get into P4P because they have kids that they can't afford. If you are talking about free, then like I said, that depends on you and your game.
Taiwan Laowai
06-15-19, 06:12
I forgot to mention that I did encounter one chubby 19 year old Colombian white girl in Santa Fe who is my type and I would rate her a solid 7 or perhaps even 8 except that she had already had a kid and it showed a bit though the damage was less than with most. Got her whats app and hope to repeat if I go back to Bogota during this trip.
The girls I mentioned on the street in that area of Santa Fe look of age, just not pushing 30's, more like 20 ish. The two I met there were 20 and 21 respectively and one did not have child. A lot of the girls standing around are more in mid to late 20's but combined with hard lives they've had, their bodies tend to look much older once clothe come off. So with the tight clothes on, they can have some nice shapes but it's usually just an illusion, especially with the larger types.
Going back to my trips to Colombia in early 2000's, I did meet through a dating site one tall hot Dominican type in Cartagena. She was 18 years old, 5'10" and had a classic pear shape, maybe 80+ kgs. But solid and firm. Nobody else I met in Colombia were up to her standard though a couple in Cali came kinda close.
Taiwan Laowai
06-15-19, 06:29
That is actually a horrible strategy since there are many chicks out that are not old enough.
Colombia is neither DR nor Brazil, so you really should not go there with that in mind. But if you twisted my arm, then I would say somewhere along the coast, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Santa Marta. (What is in my mind is normal chicks that I have met or seen over the years. I can not speak for P4P.)
That would depend on you. If you are talking about paying someone, then most younger chicks that don't have kids will not be interested IMHO. Most chicks get into P4P because they have kids that they can't afford. If you are talking about free, then like I said, that depends on you and your game.Thanks for your replies Mr. Enternational.
I am careful to avoid under 19s but frankly, most of the girls I see tend to look rough and older anyway so making a conscious effort to go for younger in the areas I walked yielded early to mid 20's who if lucky looked their age, not prematurely aged. Is checking the ID a secure enough way to be sure they are of age?
I take my hat off to you for being able to date young girls without paying at all in spite of being middle aged. You must have great game or have a certain kind of look that attracts young women. If I remember correctly, you are in Pattaya too so not paying sounds remarkable. Even young good looking guys I know there almost always pay something unless they pull other tourists. Bangkok is a lot better in that regard though for the younger guys.
In Philippines, I've found it doable to date some decent university educated attractive young girls w no kids but still, there is a sugar daddy element involved as I usually help them out with this and that. There have been exceptions here and there but usually young girls, unless they are from the broad or narrow elite class don't have that much money when they are students or newly graduated. Heck, when I was a student, I was broke too.
Right now, I have near zero game as most of the Spanish I had seems to have disappeared.
My reason for coming to Colombia over DR or Brazil this time was lower cost, better safety, and generally better infrastructure and attitude towards Americans. I figured that it's an ethnically diverse enough country that certain areas might have the bigger Brazilian and DR types but that assumption was probably largely incorrect.
Taiwan Laowai
06-15-19, 06:33
Nice fun trip you had. Can you share some of the photos? Do you think with rush of gringos prices going up?I didn't take photos in those places and when I go out in Cucuta an night, I leave the phone in the room.
I didn't sense there is upward price pressure in either Bogota or Cucuta because most of the gringos as I know flock to Medellin.
Questions to the experienced Colombia hands:
1. What is best area in this country to find thicker and taller (think certain Dominican Republic or Brazilian types)? I first thought of Buena Ventura but Tall Man told me attitude is bad there. He actually recommended certain clubs in Centro of Medellin for that type (I sent him photos)..Thanks for sharing your experience in Bogota.
1. What is best area in this country to find thicker and taller (think certain Dominican Republic or Brazilian types)?
Cali has thicker, darker complexioned girls. I have heard a lot of guys say that Cali is heaven for Ass lovers.
Cucuta is ground zero and the 'Port of Entry' for Venezuelans. Looking forward to your report and whether Cucuta is worth visiting.
BKKguru
Taiwan Laowai
06-15-19, 06:52
Thanks for sharing your experience in Bogota.
1. What is best area in this country to find thicker and taller (think certain Dominican Republic or Brazilian types)?
Cali has thicker, darker complexioned girls. I have heard a lot of guys say that Cali is heaven for Ass lovers.
Cucuta is ground zero and the 'Port of Entry for Venezuelans. Looking forward to your report and whether it is still worth visiting Cucuta.
~BKKguruI would have thought Buenaventura might even be better but one of the Colombian heavyweights (Tall Man) said the attitudes were terrible there when he visited. I do remember that some of the Afro Caleneas I met back in early 2000's had a very classy and elegant way of speaking. This was not as much the case for those I met up in Cartagena.
So far, I can say if you looking for a GFE, low prices, and virtually no gringos, Cucuta near Hotel Mary might be a great place to spend a few days. It's not as dangerous as you would expect because the police patrol the area intensively at night. But sometimes they disrupt things together with migracion workers by rounding up the girls and doing spot checks in the clubs. Basically, I have found Tall Man's reports spot-on and a good road map for strategizing. Tomorrow, I will see what the strip is like during the day as so far, I've only been out at night. Unfortunately, as Mr. Enternational pointed out, as working girls, most of them seem to have kids. Perhaps I can find some exceptions. Let's see.
Mr Enternational
06-15-19, 15:38
I am careful to avoid under 19s but frankly, most of the girls I see tend to look rough and older anyway so making a conscious effort to go for younger in the areas I walked yielded early to mid 20's who if lucky looked their age, not prematurely aged. Is checking the ID a secure enough way to be sure they are of age?
I take my hat off to you for being able to date young girls without paying at all in spite of being middle aged. You must have great game or have a certain kind of look that attracts young women. If I remember correctly, you are in Pattaya too so not paying sounds remarkable. Even young good looking guys I know there almost always pay something unless they pull other tourists. I don't ask for IDs in verification of age so I would have no idea. It is easy to pick the chicks that are too young out because of their clothes. They don't wear grown women style clothes. They wear clothes and shoes that are appropriate for their age group. For instance I was down on Degrieff in Medellin and saw some chicks wearing like Minnie Mouse shirts and colorful little sneakers. It was obvious but just to confirm I asked. 15! Then they taunted me about being scared. I said damn right I am scared.
Maybe the difference with me is that I don't seek particular things out. I just fall into shit. I see a lot of guys going out looking for this, that, and the other, but I show up and say I like her, her, her, without any preconceived thing in mind.
When I meet chicks on dating sites I hate when they ask what are you looking for. Many do not understand when I say I am not looking for anything. What are you offering? I am just there to fall into whatever I happen to fall into. It is probably because of this that I am never disappointed as I may be if I set out looking for a 19 year old chick with big boobs and a size 5 shoe.
In 2006 I was on the dating site and a chick in Cali hit me up. She confessed that she was not 18 as her profile said, but only 16. I told her to contact me when she turned 18 then because I did not need those kind of problems. She protested saying her parents would not mind. Nope. Lo and behold, 2 years later on her birthday she hit me up again. I went to see her and we started a relationship. Her parents always made me stay at their house. Of course I was on the couch and not sleeping in her bedroom. Her mom would cook 3 meals a day for us. Neither her nor her parents ever asked me for anything. That was 2008, so I was 36 back then and she was 18.
Now I am 47. A few weeks ago on Tagged a 25 year old chick with no kids in Pattaya hit me up. We got to talking and she said she works at a shirt shop in the mall. So we started hanging out a lot on her off days. I noticed she had a Galaxy S10. Hmmm. My last day in Pattaya before coming back to the States she came over to my place when she got off work. I saw she had on a Samsung t-shirt and I said they gave you a shirt with your phone? Then I saw she had on a Samsung jacket. She said I work there. I laughed and said why you tell me you worked in a shirt shop then? All she ever asked from me was to go to dinner on a side of town that she had never been to and to go to the movies to see Godzilla. So now she is my main girl, but I did not go seeking her out. I just sorta fell into her.
It is the same thing with 3 somes, videoing chicks, and other kind of crazy shit. It just happens. I don't go out looking for it. That is probably why you will hardly ever see a bad report from me. I go with the flow and there are no particular things that I am looking for and must have.
I don't ask for IDs in verification of age so I would have no idea. It is easy to pick the chicks that are too young out because of their clothes. I ask for ID. Walk away if she does not show proof. Without that small discipline, you should not be mongering.
I just completed my first trip to Bogota (It was my first time in Colombia as well). With the situation in Venezuela, I figured it was a historically unique opportunity.
A little about my style I'm very picky with girls and I like a certain type. Generally, I go for 18-22 year old spinners. I will pass on a girl if she is too old (or even looks like she is out of this age group). I will also pass on a girl if she is over 140 pounds (but I sometimes find myself making exceptions). Even if they meet my overall criteria, if they have a hard face, I will pass. I also hate condoms for anything but anal. And I like to get to know the girls a little bit especially if I repeat. That often results in a real GFE session.
Hotel Tequendama It was a great place to stay. Very nice, secure room at a really good price (40 / night). The internet was awesome. I stayed connected to Verizon WiFi nearly the entire trip so nobody back home knew I was out of the country. It was an easy walk to Santa Fe. The biggest negative is they aren't truly girl-friendly. I contacted the manager before my stay to find out their policy. They said they had to register every girl. But there would only be a charge if a girl came in after 9 PM. Fair enough. The problem came in the implementation. I tried to bring a sweet (and obviously 18) Venezuelan girl back from Club Venus. The front desk wouldn't accept her Venezuelan cedula. They demanded a passport and she didn't have one. I doubt many Venezuelan girls in Santa Fe have anything over than a Venezuelan cedula. For that reason, I suggest passing on Tequendama if you plan on bringing girls back to your room.
Woodman69 - When I arrived, I contacted Woodman69 for an introduction to the Santa Fe scene. It was one of the best moves I could have made. I probably would have been intimidated to go to anywhere outside of the main 2 blocks had I not done it several times with him that night. As it turns out, I found some real gems further afield thanks to his guidance. Highly recommended.
Non-mongering activities I went to one of the restaurants that Anthony Bourdain reviewed that was famous for their Hot Chocolate with a piece of soft cheese in it. I thought it was overrated. I did, however, love Arepas la Reina in Chapinero. It was awesome. I also really liked the burgers at Voodoo right down the street from Tequendama. Finally, for those who enjoy legitimate Thai massage, I highly recommend doing a 2 hour session at Baw Thai spa in the north of the city. I've been to Thai massage places all over Thailand and the US and this ranks up there with the very best. It is pricey by Colombia standards (I think I paid 200 k for a 2 hour massage), but cheap for what you get.
Now to the mongering. I sampled 4 of the scenes in Bogota: Santa Fe street and club girls, High End Clubs in the North, Primero de Mayo, and Photoprepago. In the end, I think I would have been best served sticking with Santa Fe and tried to get as many short times as humanly possible. I'll explain why shortly.
Santa Fe While girls seem to be spread out everywhere, it seems to me there are 3 main concentrations:
1. The 2 blocks between Cra. 15 (back entrance to La Piscina) and Cra. 16 a and between Calles 23 and 24. One of the blocks has a higher concentration of street girls and the other has just about all the bars.
2. The intersection of Cra. 15 and Calle 22. There are also some girls along Cra. 15 all the way. (On the left side of the street there are some insane trannies There is one huge dude with gigantic bolt-ons who walks around topless and screams at you.)
3. Calle 20 around the intersections of Cra. 14 bis and Cra. 15 bis. Again, the hottest girls can be found soliciting cars in the street. This is perhaps the cheapest area. I found some hot 18 year old going for 26 k (they paid the 6 k for the room). You just can't beat a hot, skinny 18 year old for 20 k or $6. That has to be one of the lowest prices for the quality in the world.
My first night after my tour with Woodman69, I saw two hotties with huge natural boobs in area 3. I hadn't had sex in about 2 weeks so I was about to burst. I took them both upstairs, paid a little extra for a double BBBJ. But when they started it, I pulled out a 50 k bill and told them it would go to the one who swallowed my leche. One of the girls was up for the task. She struggled. But the 50 k motivation got her to gulp it down.
I know this may be controversial but I also learned that I could go bareback with just about any of these girls for roughly double their usual fee. Paying an extra $10 to actually feel the sex is well worth it for me. If the girls ask me to finish outside, I always complied. But about half didn't make that request.
During my stay when I went to Santa Fe, I was always on the lookout for fresh meat. I was circulating through all three areas constantly throughout the day. If I saw a girl that met my criteria, I immediately moved in and went for it. I also ended up in a mini "relationship" with a girl from club Venus. She was a really sweet Venezuelan girl who seemed really out of place in the bar. She was awesome. But she kept me from hitting as many street sweeties as I otherwise would have.
If I had it to do all over again, I would have spent all my time in Santa Fe banging one chica after another and repeating with the most impressive ones.
High End Clubs One night of my trip (Tuesday or Wednesday I think), I went out to 8 or so of the clubs on the Bogota FAQ. I was not impressed with the girls at all. Most were pushing 30 and / or were gordas. I honestly didn't see a single girl that I would sleep with (regardless of price) until the next to last bar la Piscina. There I found one girl a 21 year old Colombiana who weighed about 90 pounds. After there were no candidates in the other bar, I returned for the 90 pound girl. The bar fee was 200 k and she wanted 400 for short time and 650 for TLN. I knew I was getting ripped off but I went for it. She was good and enthusiastic but would only do BBBJ. And during our morning session, something happened and it seemed like I was hurting her so I stopped. I felt ripped off. But she was by far the hottest girl I sessioned with and we had a great / athletic session that night despite the condom.
Primer de Mayo No offense to the fans of this place. But I hated it and ended up cutting my time there short. Even though Santa Fe may be more dangerous in terms of overall crime rate, I am pretty much anonymous there. I don't buy drugs so the drug dealers don't fuck with me. In Primer de Mayo, I gathered a bigger and bigger group of bouncers who (up to 20 in the block before McDonalds) who swarmed on me and were all pawing on me and could have easily attempted to pickpocket me as I was being jostled by the crowd. Most of the bars had the same problem as the high-end bars. The girls were old and / or fat. I found a couple of attractive girls in one bar and decided to settle in and have a beer just to get a break from the harassment outside. The bouncer was literally in my face the whole time I tried talking to the girl first insisting I buy her a drink, then insisting that I buy her a 70 k drink. I am the most mild-mannered person you will ever meet but I was moments away from beating the crap out of this dude. He didn't get the hint when I told him to get the fuck out of my face in English so I just left. After shoving my way out of the bar, I crossed the street and went to Texas bar. It was much more civilized and laid-back. But, again, I didn't see any young spinners in there. That's when I gave up and went back to Santa Fe.
Photoprepago I won't get into too much detail because this report is already way too long. But I did two dates on Photoprepago. The first girl was lactating which I though was pretty cool. She was also very eager to please. She wouldn't do bareback so I went for anal. Unfortunately, we had a messy situation. She was a trooper. She cleaned us both up and proceeded to give a BBBJ until I finished. The second girl I met at her place in Usaquen. Even though she agreed to uncovered sex for a substantial upcharge, she was an absolute cold fish in bed and definitely not worth it.
Bottom line: If you are going to Bogota, I recommend sticking to Santa Fe and banging as many girls as you possibly can in the time allotted (and if you are into bareback, you can definitely get what you want). Woodman69 is a great resource to get you started in that regard. You should also get a Thai massage at Baw Thai and eat at Arepas la Reina.
That's Streetie Sweeties, and they are better than ever.Thanks Woodman09! I saw some real lookers Wednesday and Thursday night in Santa Fe. With the current exchange rate Bogota is a bargain. Oil.
Taiwan Laowai
06-16-19, 05:35
I ask for ID. Walk away if she does not show proof. Without that small discipline, you should not be mongering.Yea that's like carding the girl LOL. If you don't ask for her ID, she needs to think to herself that she's starting to really look older haha.
Since I'm into big and tall girls, even when in Philippines, I tend not to even look at the small childish types. But in Montego Bay Jamaica, I did meet one big 5'10" girl who turned out to be just 17 for a few more months. She could have easily passed for 20. Glad I asked her age and since she was honest, I didn't need to bother carding her. Just told her, maybe see you in a few months.
John Clayton
06-16-19, 06:22
... to be just 17 for a few more months. She could have easily passed for 20. Glad I asked her age and since she was honest, I didn't need to bother carding her. Just told her, maybe see you in a few months...Yet the age of consent in Jamaica is 16. Age of consent in the Philippines is 12! I know, I know. It's 18 USC sec. 2423 (d): Travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct and 18 USC sec. 2423 (c): Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. USA! USA! USA!
Mr Enternational
06-16-19, 15:55
Yet the age of consent in Jamaica is 16. Age of consent in the Philippines is 12! I know, I know. It's 18 USC sec. 2423 (d): Travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct and 18 USC sec. 2423 (c): Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. USA! USA! USA!The age of consent in my state is also 16, but since I am a US citizen one has to go by the age of majority when in other countries. I like grown women. That is why I do not have to ask for an ID.
It's going down!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCOaBWOG4oQHa, I just dreamed Marwa's girlfriend took me home to meet her parents. I'm not sure why they owned Quint's boat from Jaws? LMAO.
KilledSoul
06-16-19, 18:33
Hotel Tequendama It was a great place to stay. Very nice, secure room at a really good price (40 / night). The internet was awesome. I stayed connected to Verizon WiFi nearly the entire trip so nobody back home knew I was out of the country. It was an easy walk to Santa Fe. The biggest negative is they aren't truly girl-friendly. I contacted the manager before my stay to find out their policy. They said they had to register every girl. But there would only be a charge if a girl came in after 9 PM. Fair enough. The problem came in the implementation. I tried to bring a sweet (and obviously 18) Venezuelan girl back from Club Venus. The front desk wouldn't accept her Venezuelan cedula. They demanded a passport and she didn't have one. I doubt many Venezuelan girls in Santa Fe have anything over than a Venezuelan cedula. For that reason, I suggest passing on Tequendama if you plan on bringing girls back to your room.
Great report ShadowJ. Finally a well written long form report on this board. Just a clarification about ID checks, it seems the rule in Medellin and Bogota (probably whole of Colombia) is that if you are bringing a Colombian citizen as a guest she needs to have her cedula, even her passport won't work (see a report on Blux in Medellin) and if one is bringing a Venie she needs to bring her passport.
Bango Cheito
06-17-19, 05:39
Thanks for sharing your experience in Bogota.
1. What is best area in this country to find thicker and taller (think certain Dominican Republic or Brazilian types)?
Cali has thicker, darker complexioned girls. I have heard a lot of guys say that Cali is heaven for Ass lovers.
Cucuta is ground zero and the 'Port of Entry' for Venezuelans. Looking forward to your report and whether Cucuta is worth visiting.
~BKKguruCali, Pereira Cϊcuta, Buacaramanga, also Barranquilla but those girls are much harder to obtain and maintain.
Bango Cheito
06-17-19, 08:02
Hey quick question? Has anybody been to 's, even if not recently? Do you know what the girls are dressed like in there?
I have a friend who just got hired there. If she gets in, I'll let you all know. Solid 9 and great in the sack.
JohnJones22
06-17-19, 22:49
Hey quick question? Has anybody been to 's, even if not recently? Do you know what the girls are dressed like in there?
I have a friend who just got hired there. If she gets in, I'll let you all know. Solid 9 and great in the sack.Which place you talking about?
Hey quick question? Has anybody been to 's, even if not recently? <snip>You are missing a word in your post. Please fill in the blank!
BKKguru
Hi all,
Great active forum. I'm going to be in Bogota the last week of July but only Tues-Thurs. Are things totally dead then? What are my best non agency options? Based on what I have read, I was planning on trying mezzanine and abadubai daytime, and either Santa Fe or going to the higher end places like la piscina del Norte at night. But I wonder if the bars will still be good, given it is the middle of the week. Any advice would be appreciated. And I promise a report.
My dates are July 30-Aug. 1 if anyone is looking for a wingman. I am still trying to figure out the PM thing- does that require a paid subscription?
Thanks.
DonCarlos1234
06-18-19, 04:59
Anyone on the list visit both Tijuana and Colombia clubs? I posted this similar message on the Hong Kong site. My last trip to Hong Kong Tijuana, I met a guy visiting from Bogota. I'm thinking of a trip there this summer but if it's just as good in Tijuana, well that's a lot closer. Any guys been both places, especially recently? Oh, I am not looking for large butts or mega implants. It's a turn off to me. Here's a Tijuana girl from last year. One of my fav's.
Anyone on the list visit both Tijuana and Colombia clubs? I posted this similar message on the Hong Kong site. My last trip to Hong Kong Tijuana, I met a guy visiting from Bogota. I'm thinking of a trip there this summer but if it's just as good in Tijuana, well that's a lot closer. Any guys been both places, especially recently? Oh, I am not looking for large butts or mega implants. It's a turn off to me. Here's a Tijuana girl from last year. One of my fav's.LOL, Tijuana does not hold a candle to Santa Fe. I used to live in Chula Vista and have been to Tijuana 100's of times.
1990's I was able to drive and be in Zona Norte in 10 min.
Way more expensive for sessions / lap-dances.
Mexican girls and many Mexicans are propagandized to hate / dislike Americans. Colombians have a true fondness for Americanos who saved their country.
Harder girls there, not as many.
Too much more not as good to list here.
Hi all,
Great active forum. I'm going to be in Bogota the last week of July but only Tues-Thurs. Are things totally dead then? What are my best non agency options? Based on what I have read, I was planning on trying mezzanine and abadubai daytime, and either Santa Fe or going to the higher end places like la piscina del Norte at night. But I wonder if the bars will still be good, given it is the middle of the week. Any advice would be appreciated. And I promise a report.
My dates are July 30-Aug. 1 if anyone is looking for a wingman. I am still trying to figure out the PM thing- does that require a paid subscription?
Thanks.Actually, your dates are good. Should be off the hook! All options.
https://www.calendario-colombia.com/calendario-2019
The Tall Man
06-18-19, 21:47
Anyone on the list visit both Tijuana and Colombia clubs? I posted this similar message on the Hong Kong site. My last trip to Hong Kong Tijuana, I met a guy visiting from Bogota. I'm thinking of a trip there this summer but if it's just as good in Tijuana, well that's a lot closer. Any guys been both places, especially recently? Oh, I am not looking for large butts or mega implants. It's a turn off to me. Here's a Tijuana girl from last year. One of my fav's.Read some of mine and others older posts in the Colombia section (IE Medellin, Bogota) as we have discussed the differences between Tijuana and Colombia in depth.
You will find that I was a weekly Tijuana goer from 1999 thru 2004 then every other month from 2005 thru lets say 2010 then 2 or 3 times a year since then. In those days the HK club was literally a hole in the wall after though club as it was connected to Las Chaveles on the inside, that was back in 2000 and I witnessed the complete evolution of the HK club over the past 20 years now.
Nowadays I live almost full time in Medellin but still visit Tijuana once or twice a year when I am in California.
Of course if you live in SoCal Tijuana (ie HK club) is in your back yard but the prices are $80 to $100 a pop at HK, plus the room and drinks and gas there and back and hotel Cascadas room cost, etc. And if you go for 2 or 3 days your going to drop $600 to $800 and pop 3 maybe 4 girls.
If you come to lets say Medellin for a week, you have your airfare $650 plus $35. / night hotel and then your gil prices can be anywhere from $15. USD (yep you heard me right) to high end clubs at $100. A pop for an hour give or take.
I would advise you just to come and experience it yourself.
BTW, I write this from my living room in my apartment in Medellin as my non-pro Venezuelan chica, 23 yo spinner with a perfect body and even better attitude new to Medellin that day, whom I met this past Friday night has been with me everyday. This is the shit that I dig here, the possibilities are endless.
The Tall Man.
1. I mistakenly called Woodman09 Woodman69. Just wanted to correct that from my report.
2. One thing that creeped me out was meeting a girl from Montenegro (Former Yugoslavia). She had short blond-ish hair and a Crescent & Star necklace. When she said she was from Montenegro, I asked if that was Colombia or Venezuela (since I bet every latin country has a Montenegro). But she said it was actually the Montenegro near Bosnia-Herzagovena. I can only imagine the circumstances that led her to be working the Streets in Santa Fe. It creeped me out so much that I moved on and never got her full story. I never saw her again. It would be worth picking her up to learn how she got there.
3. I hated the short-time motels. There was no usable shower (no hot water, no towels). So you couldn't be sure your girl was clean nor could you reliably clean up afterwards. And one room I was in had no lights and smelled so much like old, dirty socks that I was unable to do the deed. The love motels in Chapinero are way too far away. I wish there were good, reliable love motels in Santa Fe the way there are in Tijuana.
4. In terms of comparisons, the pricing was overall much better than Tijuana whether in the clubs or the street. Prices for bar girls were from 40,000-50,000 ($12-15) while street girls went from 20,000 - 40,000 ($6-12). Those have to be the best prices anywhere in the world. Especially given the fact that some of the $6 girls were skinny 18 year olds. The bars in Tijuana have far more girls. But the bars all over Bogota generally let you walk in and out with no cover. It takes a good amount of work and walking in Santa Fe to find an 18 year old spinner vs. Tijuana where you can go to HK or order an escort and be done with it. If you speak some spanish, your chances of GFE (as much as you can get in 20 minutes) are much better with street girls in Santa Fe than with street girls in Tijuana. I'd also say that the Santa Fe girls appear more hard in terms of tattoos and smoking (often weed) openly in the street vs. The Tijuana girls.
Oddly enough, the short-term nature of everything reminded me of Frankfurt in the mid-90's walking through cavernous buildings banging as many chicks as I could. I sure wish I had the recovery time of my 25 year old self.
5. Photoprepagos was disappointing. It wasn't until I got there that I realized almost all the girls are based in Usaquen. That means it will take them quite a while to get to a hotel in the Santa Fe area (some don't even go that far south). It's a big time investment to call one of those girls since they could be there anytime from when you call until hours later (they are latinas after all).
6. I wish somebody would have taught these girls how to put on condoms. When I did use them, the girls rolled them down before putting them on and then pulled them over my friend and snapped them on like a rubber band. Excruciating... and another good reason to get BBFS.
Mr Enternational
06-19-19, 01:40
Anyone on the list visit both Tijuana and Colombia clubs?As I always say, the only reason to go to Tijuana is if you are already in San Diego. I would not waste money or time going there otherwise. Colombia on the other hand, is one of the best places to monger on the planet.
3. I hated the short-time motels. There was no usable shower (no hot water, no towels). So you couldn't be sure your girl was clean nor could you reliably clean up afterwards. And one room I was in had no lights and smelled so much like old, dirty socks that I was unable to do the deed. The love motels in Chapinero are way too far away. I wish there were good, reliable love motels in Santa Fe the way there are in Tijuana.
6. I wish somebody would have taught these girls how to put on condoms. When I did use them, the girls rolled them down before putting them on and then pulled them over my friend and snapped them on like a rubber band. Excruciating... and another good reason to get BBFS.Thanks for sharing your experience. Love the follow-up "additional thoughts". More of us need to do this.
Santa Fe
You identified the huge negatives. Santa Fe is not for me because:
(1) The 20 minute quickie is really the 15 minute quickie. 5 minutes to undress and dress etc. for the Chica and yourself.
Also, the dreaded knock on the door comes around the 15 minute mark. Sometimes even couple of minutes earlier.
(2) I can almost hear the counter argument. You have the option to keep the Chica for an hour, or even longer. Sure, but then your cost is 3x higher at a minimum.
Once you add all the "extras", Santa Fe is not as cheap as advertised. To be clear, overall, it is still cheap if you are calculating in US Dollars.
(3) Clearly there is demand for a modern Short Time Motel. Hopefully, some Colombian entrepreneur will seize this opportunity. For me, clean towels and a shower is a must.
Safety
You write: "Even though Santa Fe may be more dangerous in terms of overall crime rate, I am pretty much anonymous there".
Please clarify. Why are you anonymous? Do you look Colombian? Or are you built like a Santa Fe club bouncer?
Just curious - did you take any safety precautions? Like leaving your watch and smartphone in your Hotel room?
Condoms
Santa Fe is a high volume environment for these Chicas.
It is your life and who am I to criticize. IMHO, going bareback is looking for trouble.
BKKguru
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3. I hated the short-time motels. There was no usable shower (no hot water, no towels). So you couldn't be sure your girl was clean nor could you reliably clean up afterwards. And one room I was in had no lights and smelled so much like old, dirty socks that I was unable to do the deed. The love motels in Chapinero are way too far away. I wish there were good, reliable love motels in Santa Fe the way there are in Tijuana..I'm sorry, I neglected to mention.
Actually there are 2 love style motels 1 block north on Carrera 16.
As I always say, the only reason to go to Tijuana is if you are already in San Diego. I would not waste money or time going there otherwise. Colombia on the other hand, is one of the best places to monger on the planet.Your opinion matters, which other places would you rank higher, and why.
SallySally
06-19-19, 22:22
BTW, I write this from my living room in my apartment in Medellin as my non-pro Venezuelan chica, 23 yo spinner with a perfect body and even better attitude new to Medellin that day, whom I met this past Friday night has been with me everyday. This is the shit that I dig here, the possibilities are endless.
The Tall Man.Tall Man, I see your posts regarding these types of girls. I would be interested in meeting similar. Where do you meet them? Any advice for us if we speak spanish?
My trip was a couple of weeks ago, but I told myself I would do a better job contributing since I have benefited so much from others reports. Better late than never!
I stayed in Zona Rosa for business reasons. I love the area! So many different restaurants and bars. Felt secure and never boring. I stayed in that area on both Wed and Thur and hit up the northside clubs. La Piscina Norte, etc. I have had good experiences in the places in the past, but did not like the lineups at all in any of them on either night. Nothing higher than a maybe a 5 in my opinion. Maybe because I was in Brazil at Scandalo earlier in the week (absolutely mind blowing, BTW).
Friday night decided to try Santa Fe. I had been once before years ago so generally knew what to expect. I travel all over the place and don't scare easily, but it made me very nervous that my uber driver didn't want to let me out. He said it was too dangerous. Of course I made a deal with the little man and wasnt going to let him down, so I went anyway. I asked a girl in Piscina and she told me the same thing. She said I should stay inside the clubs until my uber was showing outside. Anyway, the lineup was pretty good in Piscina, but I wanted to check out at least one more place. I went to Troya (I think? I didn't like it there at all. Too busy, selection not good, and just didn't like the vibe. Saw some lookers on the street, but didn't try because the driver and the earlier girl had me worked up about safety. Went back to Piscina and found a different Colombiana this time. I'm not really a fan of short time, but got a very nice unrushed bbjtcim for 185 k including room. I gave her FIV which she either really enjoyed or did a great job selling it! Overall, no issues at all and enjoyed the session, but didn't like being so worried about the security.
On Saturday I went over to Abadubai. I can confirm all the positive reports. The place was clean, the lineup was pretty good, mostly 7's IMO, and the session was very nice with another solid BBBJ and CFS. She also really seemed to enjoy it or at least make me believe it. I only regret not taking her up on the greek which was on the menu. I can't remember for sure, but think the total damage was about 285 k (a bargain!
Overall. Great time, definitely one of my favorites in the world. Can't wait to repeat!
The south stroll runs on carrera 14 bis parallel to Caracas begins at 19 and ends at calle 21. This area is a little dodgier. I have not had any real problems but you need to pay attention as always.
The big line up on the corner of Calle 20 will have 30+ girls and plenty of girls on the 2 blocks probably like 200+.
There are some bars right by the line-up, Have a beer and enjoy the show! Even if you do not want to do a quickie, the spectacle of all those hot girls is worth seeing.
Blue Touch
06-20-19, 14:37
26 mil /15 mnts, including hotel fee. Girls are not attractive. Some trannies are present. Significantly more rough and dangerous area than Cls 23-4.
The south stroll runs on carrera 14 bis parallel to Caracas begins at 19 and ends at calle 21. This area is a little dodgier. I have not had any real problems but you need to pay attention as always.
The big line up on the corner of Calle 20 will have 30+ girls and plenty of girls on the 2 blocks probably like 200+.
There are some bars right by the line-up, Have a beer and enjoy the show! Even if you do not want to do a quickie, the spectacle of all those hot girls is worth seeing.
Arrived from medellin. Check in at Ayenda Brisas del Oasis hotel its in the middle of chapinero perfect for visiting all casas its a budget hotel for 71000 pesos but have everything I need wifi, hot water, comforable bed. Drop my bag have a shower and straight to the casas around 2 pm.
Casa verde- have around 10 girls inside I like one from them price is 25 k - 20 min and 30 min-40 k. Beer is 4 or 5 k. Take a girl name pamela from Colombia I fuck her hard but could cum in 20 minutes and my time is gone. No problem baby is just 25 k pesos. Finish my beer and left.
Palmeras real (just opossite casa verde) - was around 8-10 girls I like one her name is natali from Colombia 21 years old. Price is 20 min-25 k 30 min-40 k. I take her for 30 min. The girls was good at bed and have nice attitude. She works hard and make me cum. I collected her whatsapp and left.
Have a 1 hour walk around chapinero have some food and beer and comeback hotel for a nap.
Later I checked some casas and strip clubs again but the quality was not good and I dissapointed with places I go.
Gaticas- beer price is 6. 5 k girls for 20 min-25 k. This place is very local have a bar inside and 7-8 ugly girls and many colombian guys drinking and spend times with girls. I have one beer and left.
Salome- just ugly girls inside see line up and left don't bother to ask prices.
Inovva pasarela strip club- have 4 or 5 girls inside don't see anything I like and left.
112 masajes- I went upstairs and take wrong doors inside I see a girl I ask her can I see chickas? She told me here is internet cafe (I didint see computers round a corner at first) comeback to other doors ring a bell girl open and let me in. I ask can I see a girls and how much for 30 minutes? She told me 60 k. She show me 3 girls all was so so. I don't take anything she told me viewing fee is 4 k (she should mention it before presentation not after). I pay 4 k and left.
Bellezas why figuras massages- the place was open but don't have any girls inside so I left.
Secret place- could find this place (seems its really secret).
Gissel barra dance inside look like modern strip club but around 8 pm any girls wasnt dancing just sit on the chairs. Have 5-6 girls some of them was cute. Any costumers is empty place music was playing loud inside I went to the barmen and ask how much girl for 30 minutes- he told me 300 thousand pesos for 1 hour. I think maybe I heard something wrong so I ask him again. He repeat me the same. I ask so how much 30 minutes when? He said just one hour not have 30 minutes. I don't know its rip off or this place is expensive.
Sex on the way-have just one ugly girl.
Rosquillas 1 - I remember this place from last year and decided visit again because its nice looking place inside and have some cute girls before. Last year they increase me the price for 30 minutes on 15 mil pesos I pay for 30 minutes 50 k instead 35 k. I was sure price was wrong so I text them on whatsapp number and find out real prices last year and I was right they rip me off. This time before one day I go I text them on whatsapp and ask the prices again. They text me 28 mil-20 min 38 mil-30 min 1 hour - 76 mil. When I come inside I ask the prices they told me 20 minutes is 50 k pesos I show them whatsapp prices which they send me. They get confused and said ok you can have a girl for this price I just walk away even not look line up.
Decided it enough with casas today and catch uber to santa fe around 8. 30 pm it was not so busy I walk some blocks around see few cute girls next to short time rooms but when I comeback they was gone. Have some food and went to California whiskeria club have one aquilla light for 7 k pesos and left. Many street girls was standing next to el paso club (which seems closed and all the way to California whiskeria. I was planning to go back hotel already when saw cute young girl standing outside she was smiling for me I like her smile with braces. She was 19 years old from venezuela name sarai without kids and nice body. I ask how much she want for 30 minutes she told me 70 k I said to much and offer 50 k she said no 60 k I said 50 again and she agree. She bring me to short time hotel and pay for room 5 k from 50 k I give to her. The room was quiet nice compare with all other rooms I have been at santa fe. The girl was good and make me cum fast I take her whastapp number and facebook and let her go. Catch uber and comeback hotel.
26 mil /15 mnts, including hotel fee. Girls are not attractive. Some trannies are present. Significantly more rough and dangerous area than Cls 23-4.Yes, you walk past a bunch of trannies on the way. It does seem rougher than 23-24. But I beg to differ regarding girls are not attractive. I consider 95% of the girls in Santa Fe unfuckable (too old, too fat, too ugly, too hard). But I found the biggest concentration of fuckable girls in this area.
Read some of mine and others older posts in the Colombia section (IE Medellin, Bogota) as we have discussed the differences between Tijuana and Colombia in depth.
You will find that I was a weekly Tijuana goer from 1999 thru 2004 then every other month from 2005 thru lets say 2010 then 2 or 3 times a year since then. In those days the HK club was literally a hole in the wall after though club as it was connected to Las Chaveles on the inside, that was back in 2000 and I witnessed the complete evolution of the HK club over the past 20 years now.
Nowadays I live almost full time in Medellin but still visit Tijuana once or twice a year when I am in California.
Of course if you live in SoCal Tijuana (ie HK club) is in your back yard but the prices are $80 to $100 a pop at HK, plus the room and drinks and gas there and back and hotel Cascadas room cost, etc. And if you go for 2 or 3 days your going to drop $600 to $800 and pop 3 maybe 4 girls..Thanks for the great posts TM. Am a newbie to the mongering scene. Went to Poblado with a highly experienced M. Met a nice paisa on way up to Parc Alvi. Went back to Bello 2 x but nothing. I'm 58 - she's 33. Thought we had something (talked every day on the phone) - bottom line, I kept sending her $$ . When push came to shove, I said I wanted her body and she pretty much disappeared. A quick Chat would be awesome about what to do next time there. Thinking Centro, but I'm blonde / blue (do speak Spanish) but not interested in getting killed anytime soon. Thanks.
Yes, you walk past a bunch of trannies on the way. It does seem rougher than 23-24. But I beg to differ regarding girls are not attractive. I consider 95% of the girls in Santa Fe unfuckable (too old, too fat, too ugly, too hard). But I found the biggest concentration of fuckable girls in this area.Actually There are maybe 5+ trannies on 19th and 14th and hardly any as you walk north, Mostly girls many 18-20 something pretty girls when busy.
Last night was slow, there were definitely a few girls most would be happy with, In the north stroll lotsa cuties on the street. We ended up in Venus. I got a lapdance from a Super Cute spinner, she was like a HS cheerleader a Latina barbie doll, 19 years old, obviously no kids.
The Tall Man
06-21-19, 20:07
Tall Man, I see your posts regarding these types of girls. I would be interested in meeting similar. Where do you meet them? Any advice for us if we speak spanish?And my spanish is still broken, god help the girls when I can communicate better.
To answer your question it takes time and patience, which most mongers who visit for a few days or weeks just don't have, but I do. Simply is a matter of spending time in busy areas of centro and observing and being patient as these situations do not come often but when they do you simply pounce on it.
The Tall Man.
The Tall Man
06-21-19, 20:16
Thanks for the great posts TM. Am a newbie to the mongering scene. Went to Poblado with a highly experienced M. Met a nice paisa on way up to Parc Alvi. Went back to Bello 2 x but nothing. I'm 58 - she's 33. Thought we had something (talked every day on the phone) - bottom line, I kept sending her $$ . When push came to shove, I said I wanted her body and she pretty much disappeared. A quick Chat would be awesome about what to do next time there. Thinking Centro, but I'm blonde / blue (do speak Spanish) but not interested in getting killed anytime soon. Thanks.I'm blondish with green, wanting Spanish (learning) and 2 meters tall, in centro just use common sense, don't disrespect anyone even the druggies or tranies, walk with a purpose and you would be surprised what you will find given some patience and time.
Question. What do you mean that you "went back to Bello 2 x"? Many girls are from Bello, I have personally know some real cuties over the past 3 or 4 years and some I still see and play with from time to time. Elaborate on your statement.
The Tall Man.
DonCarlos1234
06-22-19, 20:10
Great info Tall Man.
You said, "high end clubs at $100. A pop for an hour give or take".
So where do the Stunners hang out in Bogota? For $100 usd there are plenty online in Tijuana and in the clubs. So what's the method to find them? Search the clubs? The streets? Go online? And for a full hour, sorry none of those quickie cheapo deals. Want a little "romance" LOL Looking for only stunners.
Ideas?
The Tall Man;2336978]Read some of mine and others older posts in the Colombia section (IE Medellin, Bogota) as we have discussed the differences between Tijuana and Colombia in depth.
You will find that I was a weekly Tijuana goer from 1999 thru 2004 then every other month from 2005 thru lets say 2010 then 2 or 3 times a year since then. In those days the HK club was literally a hole in the wall after though club as it was connected to Las Chaveles on the inside, that was back in 2000 and I witnessed the complete evolution of the HK club over the past 20 years now.
Nowadays I live almost full time in Medellin but still visit Tijuana once or twice a year when I am in California.
Of course if you live in SoCal Tijuana (IE HK club) is in your back yard but the prices are $80 to $100 a pop at HK, plus the room and drinks and gas there and back and hotel Cascadas room cost, etc. And if you go for 2 or 3 days your going to drop $600 to $800 and pop 3 maybe 4 girls.
If you come to lets say Medellin for a week, you have your airfare $650 plus $35. / night hotel and then your gil prices can be anywhere from $15. USD (yep you heard me right) to high end clubs at $100. A pop for an hour give or take.
I would advise you just to come and experience it yourself.
BTW, I write this from my living room in my apartment in Medellin as my non-pro Venezuelan chica, 23 yo spinner with a perfect body and even better attitude new to Medellin that day, whom I met this past Friday night has been with me everyday. This is the shit that I dig here, the possibilities are endless.
The Tall Man.
SallySally
06-23-19, 03:12
Arrived from medellin. Check in at Ayenda Brisas del Oasis hotel its in the middle of chapinero perfect for visiting all casas its a budget hotel for 71000 pesos but have everything I need wifi, hot water, comforable bed. Drop my bag have a shower and straight to the casas around 2 pm.
Casa verde- have around 10 girls inside I like one from them price is 25 k - 20 min and 30 min-40 k. Beer is 4 or 5 k. Take a girl name pamela from Colombia I fuck her hard but could cum in 20 minutes and my time is gone. No problem baby is just 25 k pesos. Finish my beer and left.
Palmeras real (just opossite casa verde) - was around 8-10 girls I like one her name is natali from Colombia 21 years old. Price is 20 min-25 k 30 min-40 k. I take her for 30 min. The girls was good at bed and have nice attitude. She works hard and make me cum. I collected her whatsapp and left.
Gaticas- beer price is 6. 5 k girls for 20 min-25 k. This place is very local have a bar inside and 7-8 ugly girls and many colombian guys drinking and spend times with girls. I have one beer and left.
Salome- just ugly girls inside see line up and left don't bother to ask prices.
Inovva pasarela strip club- have 4 or 5 girls inside don't see anything I like and left.
Where are casa verde and palmeras real located? I can't find them on the Bogota lists nor on don Colombia?
Great info Tall Man.
You said, "high end clubs at $100. A pop for an hour give or take".
TM is talking about Medellin. You can search for "La Isla Club". There are plenty of reports in Medellin forum.
Meet with other forum member Taiwan Laowai and walk to santa fe around 18.30 pm it was busy already many cuties on street. We have some food make few laps aroud the block and hit clubs. First we went to California whiskeria have many girls inside but nobody was dancing on stage yet we have beer and left.
Next place we checked was atons club it was packed and fun girls was dancing after make lesbian show eat each other pussy many times till dancing. We make couple of laps around the block again looking for street girls and went la cosona club. I find here slim venesualian name rosangela 21 years old. I ask how much she want for 20 minutes she told 60 k I offered 40 k and she agree but I pay for room upstairs 5 or 7 k also. Girl was good and I could last probably more than 10 minutes. We went out but was raining strong so come to venus club. This place was full of costumers and have some nice girls inside. Taiwan Laowai find girl here and go upstairs I was drinking beer and watching girls dancing and other lesbian show girls was more passionate here lick each other and dancing and use lolippop put inside pussy after into each other mouth they both have nice bodies and looks sexy I was thinking to take one of them upstairs but could get some power yet from previous girl. Venus club was great place many costumers take private dances and everybody have fun here!
Later we went out and I decided to find some street girl. Around 22.30 pm was many girls on street seems most of them venezualians. I saw one I really like but she want 70 k for 30 minutes and not go down so I find another cutie standing just few meters away I ask how much you want for 30 minutes? she said 35 k and you pay room. Sure no problem!! We went short time hotel I pay 5 k for room and give for girl 35 k. The girl name was yorgelis 19 years old from venezuela with nice attitude and good looking body. She suck me for a while but I could get proper hard after 1 girl before at santa fe and 2 in the morning from casas. She try to put my dick inside her pussy but it was like plastic could fuck her properly. So I take condom out and she wank for me till I cum somehow. I take her whatsapp and facebook. Santa fe on Friday was great we spend around 5 hours in total. At clubs beer prices (aquilla light) is 6-7 k pesos. My last day at Bogota was spend well with 4 diffrent venesualians cuties from casas and santa fe.
Where are casa verde and palmeras real located? I can't find them on the Bogota lists nor on don Colombia?Its at chapinero at Carrera 15 #66-18 carrera 15 #66-17 both on bagota mongering map.
Bango Cheito
06-24-19, 09:59
You are missing a word in your post. Please fill in the blank!
~BKKguruSorry guys, it's Ottos.
If it's not showing it may be because of some weirdness with the forum.
Bango Cheito
06-24-19, 10:00
I have not seen any mention of Cargo Pants. These Pants would be perfect for walking around Centro or Santa Fe.
Cargo pants have the extra large pocket on the outside of the Pant.
These pockets are secured by buttons or a zipper. Buttons offer more security.
You have 4 Pockets on the front side and 2 on the backside. The bad guys would not know which Pocket is loaded.
You can walk with your hands in the top pockets. Your Cash can be in one of the lower right OR left pocket.
These Pockets are extra wide. Perfect to keep your Passport too.
~BKKguruBogota pickpockets are REALLY good.
If you want to be sure, do as the girls do and put it in your shoe.
Blue Touch
06-24-19, 15:42
I usually pay street girls in Santa Fe 30 mil for the service and hotel. The locals told me that's an ongoing rate. Around cl20, its 26 mil.
Decided it enough with casas today and catch uber to santa fe around 8. 30 pm it was not so busy I walk some blocks around see few cute girls next to short time rooms but when I comeback they was gone. Have some food and went to California whiskeria club have one aquilla light for 7 k pesos and left. Many street girls was standing next to el paso club (which seems closed and all the way to California whiskeria. I was planning to go back hotel already when saw cute young girl standing outside she was smiling for me I like her smile with braces. She was 19 years old from venezuela name sarai without kids and nice body. I ask how much she want for 30 minutes she told me 70 k I said to much and offer 50 k she said no 60 k I said 50 again and she agree. She bring me to short time hotel and pay for room 5 k from 50 k I give to her. The room was quiet nice compare with all other rooms I have been at santa fe. The girl was good and make me cum fast I take her whastapp number and facebook and let her go. Catch uber and comeback hotel.
I usually pay street girls in Santa Fe 30 mil for the service and hotel. The locals told me that's an ongoing rate. Around cl20, its 26 mil.Good for you if you can get young stunners between 18-22 years for 30 minutes for 30 k. All girls looking diffrent and can ask diffrent its not a flat price at santa fe you just negotiate what are you happy to pay.
Gentlemen, I'm an older gent with plans to relocate to Colombia after a few administrative matters are completed. I've been to Medellin a few times and I think I can get around there pretty well, including the language.
(Let's just say I'm solid intermediate and working on it). Here is the nature of my question:
I'm usually better at bringing girls to a love hotel or even my place (although I'm usually reluctant to do that on a first cita). In Medellin, you can build a Facebook list of ladies that could keep you busy for years, even if you saw one a day. What is the story with Bogota? My explorations suggest that Twitter is more popular and there are a few key sites and you can slowly build from there. I'm also on the mailing list for Photoprepagos but there doesn't seem to be the same easy on-line coquetry that exists in Medellin.
Of course, I have read about finding gold in the streets of Santa Fe and the large number of "clubs" in the area. Are there any other easier ways to start making connections (I use Tinder already). Just curious and thanks!
V.
PickupArtist
06-26-19, 01:48
How to find the hottest girls.
- It takes a good amount of walking to find the 18 year old spinners.
- Another option is just staying and observing in busy areas; when a hot girl passes by then pounce on the opportunity. It's like fishing for people.
- Once found get her Whatsapp and Facebook.
- Beware of girls that have cold sores on faces or other signs of bad health.
If you look like an easy target you will become a target.
- Walk with purpose.
- Don't flash wealthy items, or brand-named clothing. Blend in.
- Don't look like a gringo, a lost tourist with a camera, and map.
- Don't bring along too much baggage. You want to be mobile.
- Don't bring along big bills. Use small bills.
- Don't disrespect anyone or get too cocky.
- Don't put your money into pocket. Pick-pockets are really good.
- Don't accept food items from strangers.
Danger.
- Don't accept pre-opened bottles of beer. Ask waiter to bring it unopened.
- Don't stop watching your drink.
- Don't let others touch or hug you for fear of pickpocketing.
- Don't give out your debit card to the waitress. Do it yourself.
- Don't wander off the main streets.
Be aware of the situation.
- Criminals like to work in groups.
- Don't rely on cops for protection. Watch out for yourself!
- Don't go out alone at night.
- Don't linger in bad parts of the neighborhood.
Economics.
- There are substantial discounts at 1 AM because girls have no other options.
- Always negotiate the prices. Be willing to state the price you want twice.
- Set the details of the deal clearly before the service is performed.
- Rappi is one option for food.
- Girls will tell you everything that you want to hear to maximize resource extraction.
On Taxis.
- Don't get into street taxis; you can either be scammed or robbed at gunpoint. Use the Apps that allows you to see reviews for riders. Double check on Google Maps to ensure that you're going in the right direction.
Necessary Prep.
- Make copies of important documents (passport, and ID) both online and off.
On Hotels.
- Don't let strangers into room. Call front desk to confirm.
- Taking the girl to your room could get your stuff robbed.
- Not all hotels are girl-friendly. Inquire about guest policies.
- Use a jammer.
- Give the impression that you are in your room. Even if you are not.
- AirBnB near the location is cheapest.
These are the notes that I have compiled after 8.5 hours of research.
bottom line, I kept sending her $$ . When push came to shove, I said I wanted her body and she pretty much disappeared.Dude you don't need any help lick your wound and keep it moving. She will be back with her mouth wide and her legs close. If she wasn't trying to give you any when you first met in person, she does not plan on giving you any. But she does like the money you've been giving her.
Sometimes it's hard for us to cut a loss because we thought we had a good vibe with a chica. We spend time and in your case as many others money. We figure we're setting a foundation. When in actuality we just picked the wrong chica. Either that or she just happened to pick the right gringo.
My friend Catalina a beautiful natural Venezuelan girl is looking for dates, She is advertising in Craigslist Colombia.
KangarooTed
06-28-19, 10:50
How to find the hottest girls.
- These are the notes that I have compiled after 8.5 hours of research.Good on you for RTFF.
Some good highlights.
Except:
Taxis are fine.
And.
Waiters won't bring you opened beer and certainly won't try to drug you with a pre opened beer.
The last occurrence of that was in 1986 before you were born so don't worry about it, doesn't happen.
I intend coming for a 6 week stay. I have a choice of flying in and out of Medellin or Bogota. I definitely want to stay in Medellin, would I miss much by not visiting Bogota at all. I'm referring to both chicas and also touristy stuff for a first timer.
StrangeFeather
06-29-19, 16:28
My friend Catalina a beautiful natural Venezuelan girl is looking for dates, She is advertising in Craigslist Colombia.Could not find her on CL, Please send a link.
How to find the hottest girls.
- Use a jammer.? to block cellphone signal?
World Travel 69
06-29-19, 19:56
There is a lot to see in Bogota.
Spend 5 days or so.
I intend coming for a 6 week stay. I have a choice of flying in and out of Medellin or Bogota. I definitely want to stay in Medellin, would I miss much by not visiting Bogota at all. I'm referring to both chicas and also touristy stuff for a first timer.
Could not find her on CL, Please send a link.It took me 32 seconds to find her on Craigslist. My phone signal is weak here, it would have been quicker.
Go to Craigslist Colombia. Go to Services. Go to all Services. Enter Catalina in the search box.
The Tall Man
06-29-19, 22:30
I intend coming for a 6 week stay. I have a choice of flying in and out of Medellin or Bogota. I definitely want to stay in Medellin, would I miss much by not visiting Bogota at all. I'm referring to both chicas and also touristy stuff for a first timer.Gezpen, 6 weeks! Dude you can stay in Medellin for a few weeks then make your way to Bogota for a few weeks then fly down to Cali for a week and then up to Cartagena, you would not only get a taste of the Colombian country and culture but your dick will have more pussy than it has had in the past decade.
Have fun!
The Tall Man.
Could not find her on CL, Please send a link.https://colombia.craigslist.org/trv/d/female-guide-catalina-for-bogota/6919504104.html?lang=en&cc=us
There is a lot to see in Bogota.
Spend 5 days or so.Should be considered one of the Wonders Of World. It's remarkable what these miners created deep in the earth.
There National Museum is beautifully put together, filled with gorgeous artifacts and so user-friendly. I'm going back next week to see the parts I missed.
Bango Cheito
07-01-19, 11:58
- If you're coming to Bogota, try to stay at least a week. If you get affected by the altitude, you'll be kinda out of it for the first 2-3 days, so you want at least 4-5 days after that to sightsee. Two weeks is much better even.
-Taxis in Bogota are a bad idea. You're not going to get jacked, but they will almost for sure try and scam you. Use Uber or they also have a local service called Beat.
-The advice to watch you drink is GOOD. The last time someone's drink got spiked wasn't in 1986, it was probably not even 24 hours ago. It happened to one of my friends just a few months back. It's a big problem here but it doesn't have to happen to you. Don't ever walk away from a drink, be careful of anybody on the street with a little piece of paper (they place the powder on the paper and then blow it at your face), and don't let a rando chick motorboat you!
PirateMorgan
07-01-19, 13:54
Bango Cheito says. -Taxis in Bogota are a bad idea. You're not going to get jacked, but they will almost for sure try and scam you. Use Uber or they also have a local service called Beat.
Nonsense. Once in three years for me while living there. Just don't look dumb and make sure the meter is running. Not complicated and not dangerous. Relax and enjoy the city. It is a fabulous place.
SandyRandy2014
07-01-19, 23:40
The second part of my Colombian trip took me to Bogota. I did not go to Santa Fe but stuck around Zona T. Went to the house opposite the Italian restaurant mentioned in the forum (someone please remind me the name) and selected a pumped up paisa ended up paying 200 k for the hour (I know I overpaid, but I wanted to try something different). The place has some shitty massage tables, and made it uncomfortable to have sex, but anyway she pulled out a condom and I declined she obliged and requested not to complete in the pussy, but shit happens, she was fine with it. Anyway, I was more interested in the jiggly ass, and made 2 deposits in an hour + in the pussy. I went to the same place and same girl 3 days in a row, depositing my load in both her ass and pussy.[Deleted by Admin] I did not try any outcalls as I think the hotels are not GF, at least the one I was staying at. I'll try Santa Fe on my next trip and also some of the clubs mentioned in the forum, perhaps a wingman could be useful. Anybody around mid Aug?
Overall, it's a great city (albeit a little expensive) , especially the accommodation. Much to see and eat.
The Tall Man
07-02-19, 23:59
- If you're coming to Bogota, try to stay at least a week. If you get affected by the altitude, you'll be kinda out of it for the first 2-3 days, so you want at least 4-5 days after that to sightsee. Two weeks is much better even.
-Taxis in Bogota are a bad idea. You're not going to get jacked, but they will almost for sure try and scam you. Use Uber or they also have a local service called Beat.
-The advice to watch you drink is GOOD. The last time someone's drink got spiked wasn't in 1986, it was probably not even 24 hours ago. It happened to one of my friends just a few months back. It's a big problem here but it doesn't have to happen to you. Don't ever walk away from a drink, be careful of anybody on the street with a little piece of paper (they place the powder on the paper and then blow it at your face), and don't let a rando chick motorboat you!Yes despite the fact that The Tall Man exercises regularly, walks and hikes 30 to 40 miles per week, is fit, usually drinks next to nothing and takes it easy when I visit Bogota I need 4 or 5 days so my body can adjust therefore great advice to go for a few weeks or if possible even 3 weeks as once your body adjusts you can really enjoy the rolla's (girls from Bogota).
The Tall Man.
TravelerBoss
07-03-19, 01:41
So after being in Bogota last year I finally decided to return this July. What better way to celebrate 4th of July than in Colombia mongering. Sadly my subscription has expired and now they only take cash but it will take 1-2 weeks to activate the account. I'm not the kinda guy that plans to far ahead. So therefore it makes no sense. If the card payment is up again I will def subscribe for this trip.
Anyways: If anyone is down in Bogota for the holidays let me know. I will get a driver and go mongering around. I also speak Spanish so it's not an issue.
At The Tall Man. If you are still in Medellin I will take a trip to go mongering around.
TLDR;.
If any mongers are in Bogota for the 4th hit me up.
Subscription ended. Only cash option and takes 1-2 weeks which I don't have.
YippieKayay
07-03-19, 05:38
The second part of my Colombian trip took me to Bogota. I did not go to Santa Fe but stuck around Zona T. Went to the house opposite the Italian restaurant mentioned in the forum (someone please remind me the name) and selected a pumped up paisa ended up paying 200 k for the hour (I know I overpaid, but I wanted to try something different). The place has some shitty massage tables, and made it uncomfortable to have sex, but anyway she pulled out a condom and I declined she obliged and requested not to complete in the pussy, but shit happens, she was fine with it. Anyway, I was more interested in the jiggly ass, and made 2 deposits in an hour + in the pussy. I went to the same place and same girl 3 days in a row, depositing my load in both her ass and pussy.You didn't pay extra for bareback? That was my experience in Bogota. Bareback was available in all the brothels for extra. One reason I don't go back. That shit is too tempting and dangerous.
Hi Gents,
I will go to Colombia next month for the very first time. I'm looking a low budget hotel, guestfriendly and close to the action. Where I have to stay, any recommendations for Bogota. Thanks.
Hi Gents,
I will go to Colombia next month for the very first time. I'm looking a low budget hotel, guestfriendly and close to the action. Where I have to stay, any recommendations for Bogota. Thanks.Depends on how budget you want. San Francisco is $20 or so near Santa Fe, Santa Fe Suites right in Santa Fe is like $18 with kitchenette.
I guess it has gotten cheaper. I just bought a box of 28/5 MG $56 mil so about $0. 65 per pill.
Works Great just boned a couple of hot streetie sweeties good sessions. The first was a super cute petite white Venezolana, I will hit it again for $26 mil.
So many hoes so little time.
Hi all,
I'll be staying in Chapinero and would like to get a decent hotel, moderately priced, within walking distance (a mile away or less) to Pussy House. The best I've found is the Viaggio. Can anyone make recommendations on hotels in the area from experience? Thanks.
World Travel 69
07-04-19, 19:56
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2956-Bogota-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments
I stayed at the Viaggio.
Watch out in the shower.
They do not have mats to keep you from slipping, as I did. They put one in after I asked.
Hi all,
I'll be staying in Chapinero and would like to get a decent hotel, moderately priced, within walking distance (a mile away or less) to Pussy House. The best I've found is the Viaggio. Can anyone make recommendations on hotels in the area from experience? Thanks.
DonCarlos1234
07-04-19, 20:29
I guess it has gotten cheaper. I just bought a box of 28/5 MG $56 mil so about $0. 65 per pill.
Works Great just boned a couple of hot streetie sweeties good sessions. The first was a super cute petite white Venezolana, I will hit it again for $26 mil.
So many hoes so little time.I'll be able to make plans next week. Geez.
I'll be able to make plans next week. Geez.Pictures of wrong item?
It appears you do not know what Generic means.
Cialis is the "brand" name. Tadalafil is the active ingredient. Pictures show generic Tadalafil tablets.
BKKguru
I'll be able to make plans next week. Geez.LOL, Yeah, get those next time I smash her. I was just pointing out the great deal on meds here.
I don't like the Cialis though, stays in the system to long for me and gives me heartburn on and off. The Viagra does it's thing and wears off.
Pictures of wrong item??
It appears you do not know what Generic means.
Cialis is the "brand" name. Tadalafil is the active ingredient. Pictures show generic Tadalafil tablets.
~BKKguruYou are correct sir, but Tadalafil makes Cyalis Cyalis, so there is that.
Bango Cheito
07-05-19, 08:37
Hi all,
I'll be staying in Chapinero and would like to get a decent hotel, moderately priced, within walking distance (a mile away or less) to Pussy House. The best I've found is the Viaggio. Can anyone make recommendations on hotels in the area from experience? Thanks.https://www.google.com/travel/hotels/Bogot%C3%A1/entity/CgoI9Pzwmq-b7-BhEAE?g2lb=4208993%2C4223281%2C4252074%2C4253230%2C4253564%2C4254308%2C4258168%2C4260007%2C4265959%2C4270442%2C4274032%2C4274649%2C4276661%2C4276915%2C4276918%2C4282188%2C4250437%2C4251519%2C4256179%2C4265427%2C4270859&hl=en&gl=co&un=1&q=bogota%20hotel%20calle%2055&rp=EJOX94zEhP2YVRD0_PCar5vv4GEQ1_uh5viKsdfqARDz28XS0qXklNkBOAFAAEgC&ictx=1&ved=2ahUKEwjvjfqRo53jAhVCtlkKHbFrA1oQvS4wAXoECAoQKQ&hrf=CgYIoMIeEAAiA0NPUCoWCgcI4w8QBxgUEgcI4w8QBxgVGAEoAFgBqgEWCgIIIRICCBUSAghbEgIILxICCFQYAaoBDwoCCBISAwibARICCGgYAaoBBwoDCKECGACqARoKAggcEgIIURICCFgSAghzEgIIRxICCDYYAaoBDgoCCCUSAgh1EgIIeRgBqgEOCgIIERICCEASAgg4GAGqASQKAgguEgIIPBICCFYSAwiHARICCBoSAgg9EgIIDBIDCIkBGAGqAREKAwipARIDCKsBEgMIqgEYAaoBCgoCCFASAghMGAGSAQIgAQ&tcfs=EhoaGAoKMjAxOS0wNy0yMBIKMjAxOS0wNy0yMVIA
Bango Cheito
07-05-19, 08:42
Bango Cheito says. -Taxis in Bogota are a bad idea. You're not going to get jacked, but they will almost for sure try and scam you. Use Uber or they also have a local service called Beat.
Nonsense. Once in three years for me while living there. Just don't look dumb and make sure the meter is running. Not complicated and not dangerous. Relax and enjoy the city. It is a fabulous place.Man, I GUARANTEE you you've been overpaying, especially if you've been taking taxis at night. My girl just almost had a fight with a taxi driver not even 48 hours ago. I keep telling her to stop using the pissmobiles and she's so damn stubborn!
I agree wholeheartedly this is a fabulous place. I've been living here since 2005. But I'd give the same advice in most cities worldwide. Taxi drivers are ass, and Uber is amazing. Uber really really increased my quality of life here.
DonCarlos1234
07-05-19, 08:47
Pictures of wrong item??
It appears you do not know what Generic means.
Cialis is the "brand" name. Tadalafil is the active ingredient. Pictures show generic Tadalafil tablets.
~BKKguruWas hoping for photos of the girl not the drug.
What up y'all! Going to be in Santa Fe thus afternoon and tonight. If anyone wants to make the rounds PM me.
Hi all,
I'll be staying in Chapinero and would like to get a decent hotel, moderately priced, within walking distance (a mile away or less) to Pussy House. The best I've found is the Viaggio. Can anyone make recommendations on hotels in the area from experience? Thanks.Grace Hotel Check FaceBook.
Calle 66 and. 6-18.
Bogotα, Colombia 1.
Get Directions.
Highlights info row image.
You probably can get a room in the Love Motel district. There are like 12+ hotels.
Here is one.
http://www.amartesuite.com
Google Love Motel Bogota. Or google maps in Chapinero there are tons.
she pulled out a condom and I declined she obliged and requested not to complete in the pussy, but shit happens, she was fine with it. Anyway, I was more interested in the jiggly ass, and made 2 deposits in an hour + in the pussy. I went to the same place and same girl 3 days in a row, depositing my load in both her ass and pussy.Dude that must have been freaking phenomenal. I wouldn't have the balls to raw dog a hot Colombian puta but man it is definitely a fantasy. You're my hero.
LittlePete
07-13-19, 14:40
Hi fellow mongers,
I am visiting Colombia during first week of September and planning to stay in Bogota for four days and Medellin for four days. During my stay in Bogota, I am looking for female company who can stay with me at the hotel room for fun. Any recommendations from seniors?
Hi fellow mongers,
I am visiting Colombia during first week of September and planning to stay in Bogota for four days and Medellin for four days. During my stay in Bogota, I am looking for female company who can stay with me at the hotel room for fun. Any recommendations from seniors?Check post #7095, She is a nice Venezuelan.
Check Mileroticos, photo prepagos or other online sites if you want the girl to come to your place. Alot of the action is in Casa, massage places in Chapeniero and in Santa Fe (have not been yet).
Hi fellow mongers,
I am visiting Colombia during first week of September and planning to stay in Bogota for four days and Medellin for four days. During my stay in Bogota, I am looking for female company who can stay with me at the hotel room for fun. Any recommendations from seniors?
Wow where are you going for sex if you think Bogota / Colombia is expensive! I usually get an Airbnb for under $25/ night in Chapinero.
Overall, it's a great city (albeit a little expensive) , especially the accommodation.
Wow where are you going for sex if you think Bogota / Colombia is expensive! I usually get an Airbnb for under $25/ night in Chapinero.
Overall, it's a great city (albeit a little expensive) , especially the accommodation.Actually, if you want to economize in Bogota there are many good restaurants that are not expensive that locals go to ($3-$5 lunches) also coffee places, bars.
If you are in an AirBnB and cook a bit that would really be cheap.
I live here on less than $500 a month, and I eat out a lot (but not pussy, LOL).
PirateMorgan
07-14-19, 20:37
Woodman09. You live here on $500 per month? You are my hero. No kidding. I could't do it, I don't think. Even if you already owned your own place I just don't see how it could be done. So much for those who talk about Bogota being expensive. You are the king.
The Tall Man
07-14-19, 22:38
Actually, if you want to economize in Bogota there are many good restaurants that are not expensive that locals go to ($3-$5 lunches) also coffee places, bars.
If you are in an AirBnB and cook a bit that would really be cheap.
I live here on less than $500 a month, and I eat out a lot (but not pussy, LOL).
Woodman09. You live here on $500 per month? You are my hero. No kidding. I could't do it, I don't think. Even if you already owned your own place I just don't see how it could be done. So much for those who talk about Bogota being expensive. You are the king.I agree, I tip my hat to Woodman as this gives me some hope as next year I will be living in Colombia full time and having already purchased and paid for my apartment in Medellin along with all the furnishing and new car and motorcycle I am budgeting about $1,200 a month in total for my life in Colombia.
The Tall Man.
SamPeter71
07-15-19, 02:51
I live in bay area, California and plan to visit for week plus trip to Colombia. Any suggestions on best time to visit? Anyone else interested in joining me? My dates are flexible and plan to book 1 or 2 months in advance.
Woodman09. You live here on $500 per month? You are my hero. No kidding. I could't do it, I don't think. Even if you already owned your own place I just don't see how it could be done. So much for those who talk about Bogota being expensive. You are the king.I'm lucky to have a large apartment I rent from the owner for $770 mil. Not in the best neighborhood, but great location. Utilities are $100 more or less.
And I eat out a lot sometimes spending $10 for a meal But usually $3-$7.
Of course my pussy budget is not included here, I usually will spend $25-$40 on a 2 or 3 sessions.
Live Cheap, Get the best pussy, it's fantastic!
Hi fellow mongers,
I am visiting Colombia during first week of September and planning to stay in Bogota for four days and Medellin for four days. During my stay in Bogota, I am looking for female company who can stay with me at the hotel room for fun. Any recommendations from seniors?Best practice, go to Santa Fe or massage parlors, do quickie session. If all good, negotiate for longer dates. Make sure she has cedula.
plan to visit for week plus trip to Colombia. Any suggestions on best time to visit? Best time is tomorrow. Life is too short to not be in Colombia. There is no bad time to come (but try and avoid Easter and Christmas).
Or if you want to have more money to spend on girls, come as soon as you can get a flight at low-season price.
And to improve your experience, spend time brushing up on your spanish and doing research by RTFF.
Best time is tomorrow. Life is too short to not be in Colombia. There is no bad time to come (but try and avoid Easter and Christmas).
Or if you want to have more money to spend on girls, come as soon as you can get a flight at low-season price.
And to improve your experience, spend time brushing up on your spanish and doing research by RTFF.Right on brotha!!
SamPeter71
07-17-19, 02:09
Thanks brother. Agreed.
Best time is tomorrow. Life is too short to not be in Colombia. There is no bad time to come (but try and avoid Easter and Christmas).
Or if you want to have more money to spend on girls, come as soon as you can get a flight at low-season price.
And to improve your experience, spend time brushing up on your spanish and doing research by RTFF.
SamPeter71
07-17-19, 02:13
Any takers?
If I have 10 days, any suggested number of days to distribute between these locations? I am also seeing lot of posts cutcuta. Is it too much to cover 3 places in days?
Ease of access to girls, quality of girl, slim is more important to me than the money.
I live in bay area, California and plan to visit for week plus trip to Colombia. Any suggestions on best time to visit? Anyone else interested in joining me? My dates are flexible and plan to book 1 or 2 months in advance.
Any takers?
If I have 10 days, any suggested number of days to distribute between these locations? I am also seeing lot of posts cutcuta. Is it too much to cover 3 places in days?
Ease of access to girls, quality of girl, slim is more important to me than the money.If you're simply interested in coming to Colombia for the girls, your 4 options are:
1 and 2. Bogota and Medellin. Which is better is a matter of personal taste.
3. Cartagena. If you want to be near a beach.
4. Cali. If you want to go the road less traveled.
Whether to split 10 days between 2 cities depends on you. Are you one of those who can go 3 times a day for 10 days straight? Or are you a 3-7 times a week guy? If you're the first type, stick to either Bogota or Medellin for the whole time. Why waste most of a day traveling? You won't run out of options in 10 days.
How frequently do you travel? Many people take time to get comfortable in a new place, especially when nobody speaks their language. Many of the guys here have been constantly traveling for years, so it's no problem for them. If it takes you 3 days to get comfortable, why mess up another 3 days?
The Tall Man
07-17-19, 20:02
Any takers?
If I have 10 days, any suggested number of days to distribute between these locations? I am also seeing lot of posts cutcuta. Is it too much to cover 3 places in days?
Ease of access to girls, quality of girl, slim is more important to me than the money.
If you're simply interested in coming to Colombia for the girls, your 4 options are:
1 and 2. Bogota and Medellin. Which is better is a matter of personal taste.
3. Cartagena. If you want to be near a beach.
4. Cali. If you want to go the road less traveled.
Whether to split 10 days between 2 cities depends on you. Are you one of those who can go 3 times a day for 10 days straight? Or are you a 3-7 times a week guy? If you're the first type, stick to either Bogota or Medellin for the whole time. Why waste most of a day traveling? You won't run out of options in 10 days.
How frequently do you travel? Many people take time to get comfortable in a new place, especially when nobody speaks their language. Many of the guys here have been constantly traveling for years, so it's no problem for them. If it takes you 3 days to get comfortable, why mess up another 3 days?Also keep in mind how your body adjusts to the higher elevations like is the case in Bogota. For me I need 4 or 5 days to rid myself of the constant migraine headache and sleepless night. You know your body best.
And yes just stick to Bogota and Medellin in your allotted time, forget about Cucuta and make that another time when you return.
The Tall Man.
I agree, I tip my hat to Woodman as this gives me some hope as next year I will be living in Colombia full time and having already purchased and paid for my apartment in Medellin along with all the furnishing and new car and motorcycle I am budgeting about $1,200 a month in total for my life in Colombia.
The Tall Man.Wow. $1200 you can live like a King almost!
I was with a friend at Abudhabi Massage. It was about 1 pm there were 6 girls some stunners, didn't session just was with someone. There are tons of daytime casas too. I passed by some others in Chapinero, touts all over. I was told 18 girls cornrt of Calle 64 and Carracas. I will probly go tom SF later and find some random cutie.
SamPeter71
07-18-19, 00:35
Thanks for the suggestions. I am more like twice a day person and primary goal is mongering and 2nd goal is have decent time. Will stick to one place.
If you're simply interested in coming to Colombia for the girls, your 4 options are:
1 and 2. Bogota and Medellin. Which is better is a matter of personal taste.
3. Cartagena. If you want to be near a beach.
4. Cali. If you want to go the road less traveled.
Whether to split 10 days between 2 cities depends on you. Are you one of those who can go 3 times a day for 10 days straight? Or are you a 3-7 times a week guy? If you're the first type, stick to either Bogota or Medellin for the whole time. Why waste most of a day traveling? You won't run out of options in 10 days.
How frequently do you travel? Many people take time to get comfortable in a new place, especially when nobody speaks their language. Many of the guys here have been constantly traveling for years, so it's no problem for them. If it takes you 3 days to get comfortable, why mess up another 3 days?
Just heard on my WA group that a guy was drugged by a Tinder girl.
1 thing, the girl had no ID.
I will post more as info becomes available.
KilledSoul
07-18-19, 22:56
Just heard on my WA group that a guy was drugged by a Tinder girl.
1 thing, the girl had no ID.
I will post more as info becomes available.Is it from Medellin? Here is something I found on Medellin Expat FB forum:
Last Friday night I was drugged and robbed. I wanted to share more details but carefully. So I met a woman on Tinder and we were to go to dinner. She came to meet me at my place first and security did not let her enter as she didnt have her Cιdula (ID). We went to dinner and then to a disco on 33. We had the place to ourselves mostly, was quite early. I remember being about to pay but dont remember paying. I remember 1 image of heading toward the open door of a cab which is strange as it was open for me from a distance. Next thing I was left on some street without my new $1000 phone (she had joked earlier that we should trade phones). I had my wallet but no cash - about $400 gone. Also Am Ex card gone. Met 2 police who shrugged at my situation. Dont know how I got home from there. Spent 2 days in a stupor without much balance. The woman had deleted our connection on Tinder and someone went shopping with the card leaving a nice trail. Went to find the bar, found it, took photos and talked to workers who said the boss would call the next day. Next day the boss of the disco calls and I go meet him. He is extra nice to me and im sure he wants to save the rep of his place. This is where things get interesting but I wont say more yet. Am working with police and others now and am going to pursue this all the way thru official channels or otherwise. I know I did stupid things here carrying cash, new phone, not getting an id, tinder, etc. What I want most is my lost photos, videos, audios, data, much of which was not backed up - another mistake. If i can get my data back or phone + data i am willing to let everything else go. I am enjoying the detective work in the mean time. Should anything happen to me by pursuing this, a friend will share the whole story. Am posting here again because people had asked for more info but comments were closed on last post.
HumanBeing1
07-19-19, 01:47
Hey everyone. Long time poster, been to cartagena and medellin. This will be my first time in Bogota. I'll only have a couple of free days but I'd like to find a couple of Casas to check out. I read back 5-6 pages and saw reference to a list. Can someone send me?
Any recommendations? I'll be solo so I don't think Santa Fι will be for me. Staying in the Parque 93 area.
Hey everyone. Long time poster, been to cartagena and medellin. This will be my first time in Bogota. I'll only have a couple of free days but I'd like to find a couple of Casas to check out. I read back 5-6 pages and saw reference to a list. Can someone send me?
Any recommendations? I'll be solo so I don't think Santa F will be for me. Staying in the Parque 93 area.Go up one level, and you will see the list in one of the forums.
Woodman09 offers tour of Santa Fe. He is good.
SaintLaurent
07-19-19, 07:11
Hey everyone. Long time poster, been to cartagena and medellin. This will be my first time in Bogota. I'll only have a couple of free days but I'd like to find a couple of Casas to check out. I read back 5-6 pages and saw reference to a list. Can someone send meThe list is in reports of distinction.
World Travel 69
07-19-19, 15:14
The Maps and Lists are here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists
Hey everyone. Long time poster, been to cartagena and medellin. This will be my first time in Bogota. I'll only have a couple of free days but I'd like to find a couple of Casas to check out. I read back 5-6 pages and saw reference to a list. Can someone send me?
Any recommendations? I'll be solo so I don't think Santa F will be for me. Staying in the Parque 93 area.
Woodman09 offers tour of Santa Fe. He is good.Ditto that. Woodman's advice was invaluable.
HumanBeing1
07-20-19, 05:29
Appreciate it guys.
I'll be staying up near 93. I think my time will be a bit limited. If you were to recommend 2-3 day Casas to check out, ideally not too far away, what would those be?
I am reading good things about Abudhabi. Where is that? I didn't see it on the pdf lists on that link and I'm having trouble finding it in Google. Any others?
I'll hit up woodman if I have a chance to go to Santa Fι at night, but with my schedule on this particular trip this may not be possible.
OK. I usually stay at the Hotel Maria Isabel on 33rd and Caracas. I used to bring internet girls with no problems. But some of these Santa Fe girls are dresses like not ready for me to go to my hotel. So I'd rather take them for a test run and if I like them for repeat clean them up and bring them to my place. So tell me. You pick up a Santa Fe street hottie and where do you go? One of the short time? I remember piscina and California have some rooms upstairs but where do you take the street girls for a test run.
All clubs have rooms, All the girls on street have a hotel they use. Usually the 6 mil fee is covered in price of 30-40 mil, many will try to get you to pay that extra if you are a gringo.
I usually never pay unless I fall in love.
Many girls have a bag ready with civilian clothes. Many live in SF and will get it all together for outside date.
OK. I usually stay at the Hotel Maria Isabel on 33rd and Caracas. I used to bring internet girls with no problems. But some of these Santa Fe girls are dresses like not ready for me to go to my hotel. So I'd rather take them for a test run and if I like them for repeat clean them up and bring them to my place. So tell me. You pick up a Santa Fe street hottie and where do you go? One of the short time? I remember piscina and California have some rooms upstairs but where do you take the street girls for a test run.
Aquarius1981
07-21-19, 21:41
Hello all,
I want to plan my first trip to Bogota. I have been reviewing the threads but I haven't been able to track down any post on Encuentrosandrea they have a few ladies I want to have visited during my stay. Can anyone provide me with any updates? Anything will be greatly appreciated.
All clubs have rooms, All the girls on street have a hotel they use. Usually the 6 mil fee is covered in price of 30-40 mil, many will try to get you to pay that extra if you are a gringo.
I usually never pay unless I fall in love.
Many girls have a bag ready with civilian clothes. Many live in SF and will get it all together for outside date.Wood man you're living the dream bro. Would be interesting to hear about times you've fallen in love.
Many girls have a bag ready with civilian clothes. Many live in SF and will get it all together for outside date.The clothes weren't as much of an issue for me. I met several Venezuelan girls who only had their Venezuelan Cedula and no passport. As I understand it, no normal hotel will let them in without a passport.
The clothes weren't as much of an issue for me. I met several Venezuelan girls who only had their Venezuelan Cedula and no passport. As I understand it, no normal hotel will let them in without a passport.The Venezuelan girls do not have Passports because:
It takes a LOT of Cash to get "approved" for a Passport.
This Cash is required to bribe multiple officials in Venezuela's Passport Ministry (or whatever is left of the original Ministry).
No Cash means no Passport, so the girls use the land border to exit Venezuela.
Colombia has the longest land border with Venezuela followed by Brazil and Guyana.
A popular entry point into Colombia is via Cucuta which has gained a reputation for being a "value" mongering destination.
~BKKguru
MongerLoids
07-22-19, 23:55
Hey planning to visit Colombia around new years for 2 weeks or so and planned to spend most my time in Bogota. I've taken a mongering trip to Pattaya in Thailand before and had a lot of luck picking up bar girls and never having to pay as long as I kept paying for food, drinks, etc. I'm 30 white speak decent Spanish and I'm in decent shape so I was wondering how easy the pickup game is in Bogota. I have no problem paying for play but after the first few days where I get a feel for a place and flirt with the bartenders I haven't had issues picking up locals. And if so what's a decent gringo bar to meet other mongers? I found this awesome bar in LK metro when I was in Pattaya that was a great little hub for me and some guys to meet up and then go find women at night.
The clothes weren't as much of an issue for me. I met several Venezuelan girls who only had their Venezuelan Cedula and no passport. As I understand it, no normal hotel will let them in without a passport.The only solution would be to go to a love motel in chapinero or there are other locations. No ID required. Or perhaps AirBnB in some cases.
GhostRecon
07-23-19, 17:55
Hello everyone,
I have a couple of quick questions:
1. Is there a street in Santa Fe I can take a cab to and be relatively safe to walk around alone? I look pretty gringo but speak intermediate Spanish.
2. Anyone going to be around this week in Bogota care to explore this area with a wingman?
Thanks.
The Tall Man
07-23-19, 18:45
Hey planning to visit Colombia around new years for 2 weeks or so and planned to spend most my time in Bogota. I've taken a mongering trip to Pattaya in Thailand before and had a lot of luck picking up bar girls and never having to pay as long as I kept paying for food, drinks, etc. I'm 30 white speak decent Spanish and I'm in decent shape so I was wondering how easy the pickup game is in Bogota. I have no problem paying for play but after the first few days where I get a feel for a place and flirt with the bartenders I haven't had issues picking up locals. And if so what's a decent gringo bar to meet other mongers? I found this awesome bar in LK metro when I was in Pattaya that was a great little hub for me and some guys to meet up and then go find women at night.A non-pro regular rolla in Bogota who works in a professional setting such as office or mall and you need time and effort and game, 2 weeks is not enough and at best a hit or miss, stay with the P4P.
I have first hand experience and know that a good looking chica in Colombia will get hit on from the moment she leaves her house until she returns, in other words every moment she is out in public. This is what you competing with but you only have 2 weeks. This is not Thailand but if your in a bar and the girls in a bar are for sale so buying them drinks and food and then fucking them is the same as a puta and probably cost more.
The Tall Man.
Hello everyone,
I have a couple of quick questions:
1. Is there a street in Santa Fe I can take a cab to and be relatively safe to walk around alone? I look pretty gringo but speak intermediate Spanish.
2. Anyone going to be around this week in Bogota care to explore this area with a wingman?
Thanks.I went to Bogota alone a few months ago, and planning on going again soon. You should be pretty safe in the block immediately around the main clubs, where Paisas, Venus, etc are. Don't go past that, and don't go lower than Piscina's street. You'll have a metric ton of putas to choose from in terms of street girls, and the clubs have girls in them as well. There are more street girls immediately west, a few streets down, but I didn't feel as safe as there were more locals walking around and the area had more little restaurants, so there were just more people "hanging out" than the club area. I felt uneasy there, and didn't walk through them without a friend with me.
As for a cab in SF, there are cabs that park in front of Paisas (taxis con confianza), those are more trustworthy cabs. You may pay a little more, as they charged me anywhere as much as 3,000 - 8,000 more pesos than a regular cab, but in terms of getting into a safe cab at 2 am In the morning. There's nothing better, no worries about getting robbed and such.
My first few days there were pretty nerve-wracking, but I got the hang of it in the last two or three days, and I'm super ready to go back now. Probably the best week I'd spent in a long time.
Blue Touch
07-24-19, 01:39
Probably you will score a few girls. It will be more costly than dealing with pros. Anyway its not an big amount. There are a few Irish pubs and beer joints.
Hey planning to visit Colombia around new years for 2 weeks or so and planned to spend most my time in Bogota. I've taken a mongering trip to Pattaya in Thailand before and had a lot of luck picking up bar girls and never having to pay as long as I kept paying for food, drinks, etc. I'm 30 white speak decent Spanish and I'm in decent shape so I was wondering how easy the pickup game is in Bogota. I have no problem paying for play but after the first few days where I get a feel for a place and flirt with the bartenders I haven't had issues picking up locals. And if so what's a decent gringo bar to meet other mongers? I found this awesome bar in LK metro when I was in Pattaya that was a great little hub for me and some guys to meet up and then go find women at night.
Mr Enternational
07-24-19, 04:46
A non-pro regular rolla in Bogota who works in a professional setting such as office or mall and you need time and effort and game, 2 weeks is not enough and at best a hit or miss, stay with the P4P.That is why for the last 14 years I have been meeting them online before I go. If you speak Spanish then you probably do not need P4P at all. Between the chicks that I meet online and the chicks that I meet on the fly, it is hard for me to find time for P4P in Colombia. Even the very first chick I met in Colombia was a lawyer from Cucuta. She did not speak English and I did not speak Spanish. But she took the bus 14 hours to Bogota to meet me. I haven't looked back.
For me, lining them up over the years has worked wonders, and in Colombia P4P is a backup that I don't even need. Shit, I don't even have time for all the nonpros. I get to Cali Thursday and have 3 days to see 4 nonpros. Then I will go to Bogota Sunday and have 2 days to see 5 nonpros. And alot of these chicks want to spend the night. Definitely will not fit everyone in.
As for a cab in SF, there are cabs that park in front of Paisas (taxis con confianza), those are more trustworthy cabs. You may pay a little more, as they charged me anywhere as much as 3,000 - 8,000 more pesos than a regular cab, but in terms of getting into a safe cab at 2 am In the morning. There's nothing better, no worries about getting robbed and such.
I actually go out of my way to avoid cabs waiting in front of places. Its easier to set you up. I'd rather trust a random taxi passing by or just use uber or grab. Or whatever is hot right now.
GhostRecon
07-24-19, 15:39
I went to Bogota alone a few months ago, and planning on going again soon. You should be pretty safe in the block immediately around the main clubs, where Paisas, Venus, etc are. Don't go past that, and don't go lower than Piscina's street. You'll have a metric ton of putas to choose from in terms of street girls, and the clubs have girls in them as well. There are more street girls immediately west, a few streets down, but I didn't feel as safe as there were more locals walking around and the area had more little restaurants, so there were just more people "hanging out" than the club area. I felt uneasy there, and didn't walk through them without a friend with me.
As for a cab in SF, there are cabs that park in front of Paisas (taxis con confianza), those are more trustworthy cabs. You may pay a little more, as they charged me anywhere as much as 3,000 - 8,000 more pesos than a regular cab, but in terms of getting into a safe cab at 2 am In the morning. There's nothing better, no worries about getting robbed and such..Much appreciated Md955. This sounds a bit like the Majorista in Medellin.
Hey planning to visit Colombia around new years for 2 weeks or so and planned to spend most my time in Bogota. I've taken a mongering trip to Pattaya in Thailand before and had a lot of luck picking up bar girls and never having to pay as long as I kept paying for food, drinks, etc. I'm 30 white speak decent Spanish and I'm in decent shape so I was wondering how easy the pickup game is in Bogota. I have no problem paying for play but after the first few days where I get a feel for a place and flirt with the bartenders I haven't had issues picking up locals. And if so what's a decent gringo bar to meet other mongers? I found this awesome bar in LK metro when I was in Pattaya that was a great little hub for me and some guys to meet up and then go find women at night.Remember one thing: girls love money, especially if they live between the tropic lines. That's right across the board from SA, Africa, and SEA. This comes from experience. It doesn't matter if you're paying for drinks, food, or sex. The bottom line is that you're still paying. Even if you're not wealthy, in their eyes, a white face automatically means you're better off than they are, and these girls will put on the game face. Sometimes you'll meet a girl that's outside the mold, but it's uncommon. And, if you look European (tall, thin, really white), don't try and hide it. Keep it simple, just talk to them. You already speak the language, and that's a huge plus. I know many guys like to set up online, but I stick to cold approaches. I've had luck wherever I've gone by being direct. Don't beat around the Bush, and you'll be surprised how they respond.
That is why for the last 14 years I have been meeting them online before I go. If you speak Spanish then you probably do not need P4P at all. Between the chicks that I meet online and the chicks that I meet on the fly, it is hard for me to find time for P4P in Colombia. What's your strategy for meeting online?
GhostRecon
07-25-19, 21:33
I went down to Zona T for dinner then ventured out to a couple of places, Pussy House then Santa Fe.
Pussy House: I was able to walk from Zona T (around calle 82) down to the Pussy House down the Avenida Caracas (con Calle 61). It was about 9 pm and felt relatively safe. There were loads all college kids around and it's a relatively short walk. Still have to keep your wits about you and act like you own the place. A hoody definitely helps if you're a gringo. Anyway, the place had about 9-10 girls and none were stunners. Most were about 6's and 7's. Maybe there was an 8 or two. Filled with guys, crappy service, and not didn't get a lot of attention from the fairly plain talent. I had a couple of beers then went to Santa Fe alone. Maybe it was an off night but I will not be going back to the Pussy-less House.
I found a taxi outside who was recommended by the doormen at the Pussy House. They said it was not a good idea to walk around alone anywhere in Santa Fe and suggested to take a taxi straight to a club. The taxi was a little over-priced at 12 mil but eh, no biggie, the guy was cool. The bar he dropped me off at was Atone (maybe I have the name wrong).
Atone: Filled with about 20-30 girls, many and mostly 9's, 8's and 7's. I got lucky and probably the most attractive girl ended up talking to me. She was really sweet and didn't push me to buy her a drink or anything. She had some sips of my beers though. After a couple more drinks I asked her price for 40 min plus room. She asked 120 mil and I new it was high but she was really sweet and super hot spinner with a beautiful body, face, and long curly hair. She was a solid 9 and in the sack as well. It was an extra 10 mil for BBBJ. I know I over-paid but fuck was it worth it. I want to personally thank Nicolas Maduro for helping me to meet this beautiful thing.
Got a taxi back to the hotel which was way up in north part of Bogota for 30 mil. Great night, bad hangover! =).
................Atone: Filled with about 20-30 girls, many and mostly 9's, 8's and 7's. I got lucky and probably the most attractive girl ended up talking to me. She was really sweet and didn't push me to buy her a drink or anything. She had some sips of my beers though. After a couple more drinks I asked her price for 40 min plus room. She asked 120 mil and I new it was high but she was really sweet and super hot spinner with a beautiful body, face, and long curly hair. She was a solid 9 and in the sack as well. It was an extra 10 mil for BBBJ. I know I over-paid but fuck was it worth it.............Sounds like money well spent to me.
Mr Enternational
07-26-19, 16:15
Remember one thing: girls love money, especially if they live between the tropic lines. That's right across the board from SA, Africa, and SEA. This comes from experience. It doesn't matter if you're paying for drinks, food, or sex. The bottom line is that you're still paying. Even if you're not wealthy, in their eyes, a white face automatically means you're better off than they are, and these girls will put on the game face. I really hate when this is said. EVERYONE loves money, not just girls that live between the tropic lines. If I go up to my dad and hand him $100 he is going to say thanks son. He is not going to say no I do not want money.
I have a black face, so what does that automatically mean?
I am in Cali right now and my girl just left for a meeting at work. I asked her if she needed money to get there and get back. She said no; it is only a 10 minute walk.
The bottom line is that everyone is not out for money and it is easy to tell when they are. Hell, for one, you can just ask! Case in point when I was in the Dominican Republic the other day and some chick hit me up on whatsapp. She said she met me from Cupid, but I talk to so many chicks I did not remember. I asked her what she was looking for. She said a stable relationship. I said many Dominicans say that when they are looking for money. She said that she was Venezuelan, not Dominican. I said shit, them too! I asked, so you do not want money? She went on about how she has needs and did not have a job and has a daughter and was in school and needed someone to support her. Eventually $600 came out. Easy case.
Those are not the type of women that I seek on dating sites. If I want to pay someone then I know exactly the spots to go to. And in many cases I will tell women that. I will tell a nonpro as well as a pro that comes with an outrageous figure, Hey, if I want to fuck someone I can easily go to (a known local hooker spot) and pay this much money (low price) with no problem. That usually shuts them up. An overpriced hooker will always try to save face and justify their price by saying the chicks in that place are dirty and have diseases though. Yeah okay.
Mr Enternational
07-26-19, 16:30
What's your strategy for meeting online?I don't have any strategy. I just talk to people as I normally would.
I guess you could say that I click the like and if they click the like back then I start talking to them. But that is not always the case. Sometimes they click the like first or sometimes they start talking first, or sometimes I send them a message instead of clicking the like. No strategy, just everyday living.
I really hate when this is said. EVERYONE loves money, not just girls that live between the tropic lines. If I go up to my dad and hand him $100 he is going to say thanks son. He is not going to say no I do not want money.
I have a black face, so what does that automatically mean?
I am in Cali right now and my girl just left for a meeting at work. I asked her if she needed money to get there and get back. She said no; it is only a 10 minute walk.
The bottom line is that everyone is not out for money and it is easy to tell when they are. Hell, for one, you can just ask! Case in point when I was in the Dominican Republic the other day and some chick hit me up on whatsapp. She said she met me from Cupid, but I talk to so many chicks I did not remember. I asked her what she was looking for. She said a stable relationship. I said many Dominicans say that when they are looking for money. She said that she was Venezuelan, not Dominican. I said shit, them too! I asked, so you do not want money? She went on about how she has needs and did not have a job and has a daughter and was in school and needed someone to support her. Eventually $600 came out. Easy case.
Those are not the type of women that I seek on dating sites. If I want to pay someone then I know exactly the spots to go to. And in many cases I will tell women that. I will tell a nonpro as well as a pro that comes with an outrageous figure, Hey, if I want to fuck someone I can easily go to (a known local hooker spot) and pay this much money (low price) with no problem. That usually shuts them up. An overpriced hooker will always try to save face and justify their price by saying the chicks in that place are dirty and have diseases though. Yeah okay.Nothing but love for all the info you bring to the forum. Hell, your posts have helped me out. That said, I still believe it's a demographic thing. What's the majority of folks that live outside the tropic lines: Americans / Canadians, Europeans, and Australians. These folks are predominately white and travel much more than folks from the tropics. Over time, locals from tropic countries begin to associate that with money. These travelers become magnets for local money seekers. I've seen it in all my travels. That's why, if I'm not going to the casas, then I only do cold approaches. That way I can see through the bullshit face to face (if it's there). Online works for you, and why change it if it works? It's just a different style.
I agree with you that everyone loves money, I just think the girls throughout these regions get desperate for it. However, it sounds like you found a good one. And, if you're handing out 100's, I'll take one. Sometimes you find a good one. When I was in Kenya earlier this year, I had my pick. Ended up with a slim and stacked beauty that was so great, I didn't even bother looking for more. She was very genuine, and I never gave her a dime (or should I say shilling). Same thing happened with a girl I met up in Santa Marta. But, you have agree, that's not the norm.
I definitely hear you on those sob stories these girls can give. I've had my share tell me they're not pros, but it'd be nice to have money to pay her phone bill, or she just needs some taxi and dinner money. Ha, makes me laugh, man. What a game it is that we play. But, hey, it's a fun one.
PolloNegro
07-26-19, 21:19
Remember one thing: girls love money, especially if they live between the tropic lines. That's right across the board from SA, Africa, and SEA.I can agree to disagree with this statement and also agree with Mr. E. I was in Bogota from May 30 until June 14. I also traveled to Medellin for 3 days to see a few of my Friends in Centro. Back to the saying that Girls love Money. I was in Santa Fe everyday, and I finally banged a girl that I actually like banging. But like Mr E. Says, all girls are different. This particular girl that I really liked to bang, I could not get her to come back to my room at first. Get this, I banged her in Santa Fe in one of the short time rooms for 20 mil each time ad 5 mil for the room. She had some really good sex, but no mater how much I offered her, she would not leave the area and go back to my room with me. I banged her in Santa Fe like 6 times before she would come back to my room. It was quite funny because, I would go to Santa Fe and stand around and all of the other girls would ask me for a date and I would just say, no, I'm OK, I'm waiting for someone, and in 2-3 minutes the girl would pop up. So here was an instance in which no matter how much I offered the girl, she wouldn't leave the area. Eventually, I started giving her $60,000 mil for coming to see me in my room and spending like 1. 5 hours in my room as I stayed at hotel San Francisco de Asis Bogota, which is actually about 4-5 minutes walk from my hotel to Santa Fe, the taxi ride was always, 3. 5 mil but I gave the guy 5 mil each trip. This kind of behavior, baffled me, but I guess it took the girl getting use to me and feeling comfortable enough around me to go back to my room with me. Like wise I had to get over my fear of having sex in the short time rooms right there in Santa Fe in order to get the girl I wanted to come back to my room with me. I would have easily given this girl a 100,000 pesos for each session, but like Mr E. Has said many times. Allow them to give you a rate and then you counter or agree. Pollo Negro is out!
The Tall Man
07-27-19, 19:14
I really hate when this is said. EVERYONE loves money, not just girls that live between the tropic lines. If I go up to my dad and hand him $100 he is going to say thanks son. He is not going to say no I do not want money.
I have a black face, so what does that automatically mean?
I am in Cali right now and my girl just left for a meeting at work. I asked her if she needed money to get there and get back. She said no; it is only a 10 minute walk.
The bottom line is that everyone is not out for money and it is easy to tell when they are. Hell, for one, you can just ask! Case in point when I was in the Dominican Republic the other day and some chick hit me up on whatsapp. She said she met me from Cupid, but I talk to so many chicks I did not remember. I asked her what she was looking for. She said a stable relationship. I said many Dominicans say that when they are looking for money. She said that she was Venezuelan, not Dominican. I said shit, them too! I asked, so you do not want money? She went on about how she has needs and did not have a job and has a daughter and was in school and needed someone to support her. Eventually $600 came out. Easy case..My 2 cents is most are but some are not especially if they fall for you and have hopes for something more serious that P4P. I have this 19 yo costena (Cartagena) favorite of mine here in Medellin who is a semi-pro yet after about 7 months of seeing her and traveling with her from Medellin to many cities and places in Colombia for weeks at a time she has NEVER ask for money, why? Because she is hoping for a serious relationship. I don't know where this will end but I am enjoying the attention and phenomenal sex while it lasts.
The Tall Man.
I don't have any strategy. I just talk to people as I normally would.
I guess you could say that I click the like and if they click the like back then I start talking to them. But that is not always the case. Sometimes they click the like first or sometimes they start talking first, or sometimes I send them a message instead of clicking the like. No strategy, just everyday living.I'm getting hits from tinder and LC. I have so many contacts right now it's crazy. We will see how it all plays out. But I might not need Santa Fe anymore. Just as a back up. I am getting hits from Age 20 - 32. Might hit my first 30 plus. That's a "old foot" to me.
Mr Enternational
07-29-19, 20:18
I have this 19 yo costena (Cartagena) favorite of mine here in Medellin who is a semi-pro yet after about 7 months of seeing her and traveling with her from Medellin to many cities and places in Colombia for weeks at a time she has NEVER ask for money, why? Because she is hoping for a serious relationship. I don't know where this will end but I am enjoying the attention and phenomenal sex while it lasts.If you have been together that much it sounds like you already have a serious relationship. People come and people go. Just enjoy them while they are in your life.
I went down to Zona T for dinner then ventured out to a couple of places, Pussy House then Santa Fe.
Pussy House: I was able to walk from Zona T (around calle 82) down to the Pussy House down the Avenida Caracas (con Calle 61). It was about 9 pm and felt relatively safe. There were loads all college kids around and it's a relatively short walk. Still have to keep your wits about you and act like you own the place. A hoody definitely helps if you're a gringo. Anyway, the place had about 9-10 girls and none were stunners. Most were about 6's and 7's. Maybe there was an 8 or two. Filled with guys, crappy service, and not didn't get a lot of attention from the fairly plain talent. I had a couple of beers then went to Santa Fe alone. Maybe it was an off night but I will not be going back to the Pussy-less House.
I found a taxi outside who was recommended by the doormen at the Pussy House. They said it was not a good idea to walk around alone anywhere in Santa Fe and suggested to take a taxi straight to a club. The taxi was a little over-priced at 12 mil but eh, no biggie, the guy was cool. The bar he dropped me off at was Atone (maybe I have the name wrong).
Atone: Filled with about 20-30 girls, many and mostly 9's, 8's and 7's. I got lucky and probably the most attractive girl ended up talking to me. She was really sweet and didn't push me to buy her a drink or anything. She had some sips of my beers though. After a couple more drinks I asked her price for 40 min plus room. She asked 120 mil and I new it was high but she was really sweet and super hot spinner with a beautiful body, face, and long curly hair. She was a solid 9 and in the sack as well. It was an extra 10 mil for BBBJ. I know I over-paid but fuck was it worth it. I want to personally thank Nicolas Maduro for helping me to meet this beautiful thing.
Got a taxi back to the hotel which was way up in north part of Bogota for 30 mil. Great night, bad hangover! =).Try going back to Pussy House on a weekend. You'll see double the girls, and better quality. Plus, you don't have to accept the first offer. Negotiate with these girls.
Hi guys,
I'm relatively new to mongering in Colombia but am Enjoying it very much. Was out on the town last night ended up spending half an hour with a girl from a bar in Chapinero. Don't remember the name of the bar as I went to quiet a few. Anyway as it was a Monday night the talent wasn't great. If anyone is in town and up for a beer tonight PM me. I think it would be a lot more fun with a wing man.
Cheers,
Pac.
1. Does anybody know of one? By girl friendly, I mean nobody stops and asks for ID at the entrance. I plan to bring Venezuelan girls back for toda la noche and don't want their lack of passport to be a problem. I also don't want mosey owners questioning why I have so many female guests in my room.
2. Assuming nobody knows of one, are there any specific terms I should look for in an Airbnb ad to know if a place is girl friendly?
I don't have any strategy. I just talk to people as I normally would.
I guess you could say that I click the like and if they click the like back then I start talking to them. But that is not always the case. Sometimes they click the like first or sometimes they start talking first, or sometimes I send them a message instead of clicking the like. No strategy, just everyday living.Bro,
Where are you meeting them? Tinder? Facebook? Clicking the like where?
Surf Looker
07-31-19, 05:57
Just trying to get a summary of Bogota. Please correct.
Top 3 areas to stay from safest to less.
1. Zona T.
2. Chapinero.
3. Santa Fe.
Hotels / airbnb in those areas recommended.
1. Zona T - ?
2. Chapinero - ?
3. Santa Fe - ?
Top massage parlors in those areas.
1. Zona T - ?
2. Chapinero - ?
3. Santa Fe - ?
Top clubs or good bars to meet chicas.
1. Zona T - ?
2. Chapinero - ?
3. Santa Fe - ?
Thanks for any input.
1. Does anybody know of one? By girl friendly, I mean nobody stops and asks for ID at the entrance. I plan to bring Venezuelan girls back for toda la noche and don't want their lack of passport to be a problem. I also don't want mosey owners questioning why I have so many female guests in my room.
2. Assuming nobody knows of one, are there any specific terms I should look for in an Airbnb ad to know if a place is girl friendly?You can always pay for a double if you're that worried, and say it's your "girlfriend". Or, just find a small, less well-known hotel to bring the girls to. Usually those are the ones you find just by walking around. These owners are just looking to make a living, and that's in your favor. I remember a little place I came across up north called Luna Azul and asked if I could bring girls back. The lady shrugged her shoulders and said, "It's your room".
PolloNegro
07-31-19, 17:57
If you book the hotel for 2 guests and you speak decent Spanish, you should have no problem bringing back girls unless your girls is dressed like she is a working girl. You must be able to pull off that you speak Spanish enough to give a viable threat like, if you charge me for my guest, I will pay today and I will move tomorrow. No one wants to lose an entire week worth of pay because you can't bring a girl back. Once I told the hotel this in Medellin and Bogota, I have had no problems bringing friends back to my room. Its just as simple as that, no one wants to lose guaranteed money, trust me on that. Pollonegro is out!
Hi guys,
I'm relatively new to mongering in Colombia but am Enjoying it very much. Was out on the town last night ended up spending half an hour with a girl from a bar in Chapinero. Don't remember the name of the bar as I went to quiet a few. Anyway as it was a Monday night the talent wasn't great. If anyone is in town and up for a beer tonight PM me. I think it would be a lot more fun with a wing man.
Cheers,
Pac.I was in Santa Fe last night, Even though slow with less about 50% +/- girls there. It was Fantastic, Streets were OK. The Stripclubs had some Beautiful girls just sitting around. The guy I was with scored great with an 18 yo super cute hot enthusiastic spinner. She did a lapdance and was letting us touch her pussy while she shoved a lollipop inside. My friend sessioned with her for 60 mil.
Venus, Atonis had more girls than guys. Walked through Paisa and Fiebre, hottness there too!
Can anyone fill me in on where hotel normandia might be? Didn't show up on google maps anywhere near santa fe.
What I do is to take many test drives in Santa Fe. From the Western viewpoint, incredibly cheap. US dollar just hit 3312. Wow!
I ask for BBBJ. In the room, I check how good she is. Make sure she doesn't refuse BBBJ. Many times they refuse or will ask for more money in the room.
Then you can go to a cleaner hotel such as Hotel Normandia. Last year, it was 30 K for the entire night, plus 10 K for each additional girl. Hotel clerk emphasized 18+ girls only.
Can anyone fill me in on where hotel normandia might be? Didn't show up on google maps anywhere near santa fe.Hotel Normandie in Santa Fe is on Carera 15 between Calle 22 and Calle 23. There's a hotel Alcala on 22nd between carera 15 and Carera 16.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Santa+Fe,+Bogot%C3%A1,+Bogota / at 4. 6113322,-74.0757995,3 a,75 y,8.78 h,88.74 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 sWsdVRygtmkn5 g6 FwNc4 xnQ!2 e0!7 i13312!8 i6656!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x8 e3 f9 a24 f5244 f69:0 xc863309 eb6922 ea1!8 m2!3 d4. 6121433!4 d-74.0708166.
KilledSoul
08-01-19, 07:11
Bro,
Where are you meeting them? Tinder? Facebook? Clicking the like where?LatinAmericanCupid.
The Tall Man
08-01-19, 21:29
I was in Santa Fe last night, Even though slow with less about 50% +/- girls there. It was Fantastic, Streets were OK. The Stripclubs had some Beautiful girls just sitting around. The guy I was with scored great with an 18 yo super cute hot enthusiastic spinner. She did a lapdance and was letting us touch her pussy while she shoved a lollipop inside. My friend sessioned with her for 60 mil.
Venus, Atonis had more girls than guys. Walked through Paisa and Fiebre, hottness there too!There you go again woodman, teasing us guys, hehehe just kidding as I can't wait to return to Bogota / Santa Fe, so keep the chicas warm for me.
The Tall Man.
Hello guys,
I want to thank you for accepting me in this community. To be my first post I have to tell you that I have been living in Bogota for more than a year and throughout this time I have been fortunate to have worked in several clubs in the so-called tolerance zone, where I had the pleasure of meeting a gringo or rather to El Gringo, because this character turned out to know more Bogota than I knew her, has shown me parts of the city that I didn't even remotely know existed. We have visited the so-called day houses, where you will find girls of all colors and sizes, I have known good restaurants, I have been to places like good casinos. With all this I want to tell you that life in Bogota is not limited only to the tolerance zone, in the whole city we can find all kinds of fun, and because of the fact that I speak English and Spanish I have the ability to be able to translate back and forth, My experience in these last days has been the best one to commit to this community and post every day everything I can find in reference to what is required in this medium, if you need more information regarding all these topics I will be pleased to help. The amount of information shared here is unbelievable keep it up, guys!
JohnyV.
Sante fe is basically 3 streets: Carrera 15 to 16 a with Calle 22 to 19.
Chicas all over waiting by the street. Once you agree she will take you to the closest room. Price she quotes include the room.
Make sure to have the exact change, once a girl pretended the room wasn't included to get more (but only once in 3 weeks, not bad).
At first I was on the edge about about safety but after few days realized it's quite safe within those streets. Always lots of people around.
The only trouble you could have is in the quiet streets to get there.
But honestly, after 3 weeks going there almost daily, never had any issue, day time as late night, on my own and waking from another neighborhood.
You will regularly see cops.
Price is from 26 k to 50 k for street girls.
I found out action is better day time, less guys and safer.
By 10 pm most will leave.
I haven't tried clubs as I got everything I wanted with street girls.
I've had something like 20 chicas, rather impressed by the quality and most of them friendly, open for a small chat and OK with different positions.
Quite different from what I'm used to in south east Asia.
I've tried different red light areas in Bogota but I don't find any advantage going somewhere else. You get everything there, at a low price.
I've been off of ISG for a while but now I am back! Booked my ticket for Bogata and am now researching what hotel I want to stay at and other non monger activities (I want to take a flight to a beach-preferably a Pacific one). Crazy to go to Colombia and not see the ocean.
I'm hoping to wife up when I go to visit a beach. So I think trying to make an online connection when I get there is best. Although I like street girls I don't think I will wife up with one. With that said is Latin American Cupid the #1 way you guys are making an online connection before getting there? I don't have FB but I will create one for this trip if necessary.
Showdown.
Mr Enternational
08-03-19, 13:29
I'm hoping to wife up when I go to visit a beach. So I think trying to make an online connection when I get there is best. Although I like street girls I don't think I will wife up with one.You need to be more specific. Are you trying to wife up with a normal chick or with a chick you have to pay? If it is with a normal chick then it is best to make an online connection before you get there.
Normal Colombian (and Venezuelan because there are plenty of those there as well) women have jobs and they can not just up and leave when you say let's go to the beach tomorrow. If it is with a hooker, then the hooker would probably need to be Venezuelan. Most Colombian hookers have to go home and can not stay with you an extended period like that. The Venezuelan hookers are refugees and unfortunately do not really have anyone or a real home to go to.
What's up! Last night was a very strange night to be a Friday night and apart from everything it was payday, it was smooth, the streets of Santa Fe were almost alone, even so you can not take away the fun that all this entails, The Gringo went to bed with the best one of the best girls in Santa Fe, beautiful and hot Barbie style, but in the street and in the clubs you could find many beautiful women like her.
By the way I do not understand what Ctec69 means, without offending, but he is a bit wrong, not leaving Santa Fe is missing 90% of the fun in Bogota, because if you go to the north of the city you will find the houses by day, they are as good as Santa Fe and of a lot of variety and are not expensive.
JohnyV.
Sante fe is basically 3 streets: Carrera 15 to 16 a with Calle 22 to 19.
Chicas all over waiting by the street. Once you agree she will take you to the closest room. Price she quotes include the room.
Make sure to have the exact change, once a girl pretended the room wasn't included to get more (but only once in 3 weeks, not bad).
At first I was on the edge about about safety but after few days realized it's quite safe within those streets. Always lots of people around.
The only trouble you could have is in the quiet streets to get there.
But honestly, after 3 weeks going there almost daily, never had any issue, day time as late night, on my own and waking from another neighborhood.
You will regularly see cops.I have been saying the same thing for years, super hot girls just waiting for you on the sidewalk. Best streety sweeties in the world today!!
But the clubs are a whole other great thing to do. To watch 5-10 gorgeous naked girls doing hardcore lapdances at once is something to experience at least once in your life.
You need to be more specific. Are you trying to wife up with a normal chick or with a chick you have to pay? If it is with a normal chick then it is best to make an online connection before you get there.
Normal Colombian (and Venezuelan because there are plenty of those there as well) women have jobs and they can not just up and leave when you say let's go to the beach tomorrow. If it is with a hooker, then the hooker would probably need to be Venezuelan. Most Colombian hookers have to go home and can not stay with you an extended period like that. The Venezuelan hookers are refugees and unfortunately do not really have anyone or a real home to go to.Well my trip is two prong. First I like meeting a normal girl to have around when I go there. Maybe a few of them. One I can maybe go to dinner with etc and have her back in my room. I also plan to get to the coast somehow and it would be nice to have some arm candy with me. I've not heard of anyone taking Sante Fe girls back to their room and I don't want to wife up with them. I guess its different than the DR where you can meet a street girl and wife up with her.
Then I would like to bang all that I can with the street girls in Santa Fe and the one massage parlor everyone keeps mentioning. I am still RTFF so I am still figuring out how to have the Santa Fe experience and a nice massage parlor / FKK experience.
So back to wifing up-is Colombia Cupid the best?
Showdown.
Mr Enternational
08-04-19, 13:57
First I like meeting a normal girl to have around when I go there. Maybe a few of them. One I can maybe go to dinner with etc and have her back in my room. I also plan to get to the coast somehow and it would be nice to have some arm candy with me. So back to wifing up-is Colombia Cupid the best?I would say it is. But having someone back in your room is not guaranteed. And remember that normal chicks have jobs, so if you plan on doing any wifing up then it will more than likely be only on the weekend and/or for a couple hours after they get off work. If you plan on someone flying with you to the coast then tickets are highest on the weekends and holidays. You can always meet someone that lives on the coast though. I hope your Spanish is good. I can count on one hand the number of normal chicks that I have met over the last 14 years that spoke English. Two out of over 100 if I recall correctly.
It does not take much figuring out for Santa Fe. You just walk up to the chicks and ask how much.
I would say it is. But having someone back in your room is not guaranteed. And remember that normal chicks have jobs, so if you plan on doing any wifing up then it will more than likely be only on the weekend and/or for a couple hours after they get off work. If you plan on someone flying with you to the coast then tickets are highest on the weekends and holidays. You can always meet someone that lives on the coast though. I hope your Spanish is good. I can count on one hand the number of normal chicks that I have met over the last 14 years that spoke English. Two out of over 100 if I recall correctly.
It does not take much figuring out for Santa Fe. You just walk up to the chicks and ask how much.I haven't checked in awhile, but I believe flights to the Pacific coast, Nuqui and Bahia Solano only go 3 or 4 times weekly. I believe they also go through Medellin. Hopefully he does more research and doesn't end up flying to MDE instead of EOH.
There's 2 reasonable hotels in Bahia Solano, options are limited in Nuqui.
Both places are supposed to be beautiful, especially for the nature lovers. Not much of a destination for the all-inclusive, let's go shopping crowd. I'm not sure how excited a chick from Bogota is going to be about the trip. Cartagena, San Andres, even Barranquilla and Santa Marta they'll be fine with. I'm not sure most of them even know where the places are.
I have been to Medellin many times since 2015. I want to see Bogota now. I really do want to meet up with the infamous mr Woodman. The rentals I use in Medellin are perfect for me because asks me questions. I was hoping they had rentals like that in Bogota.
Blue Touch
08-05-19, 15:52
Many gringos get sick when they visit pacific cities due to new virus, bacteria, etc.
Well my trip is two prong. First I like meeting a normal girl to have around when I go there. Maybe a few of them. One I can maybe go to dinner with etc and have her back in my room. I also plan to get to the coast somehow and it would be nice to have some arm candy with me. I've not heard of anyone taking Sante Fe girls back to their room and I don't want to wife up with them. I guess its different than the DR where you can meet a street girl and wife up with her.
Then I would like to bang all that I can with the street girls in Santa Fe and the one massage parlor everyone keeps mentioning. I am still RTFF so I am still figuring out how to have the Santa Fe experience and a nice massage parlor / FKK experience.
So back to wifing up-is Colombia Cupid the best?
Showdown.
Hello friends!
My report today of how everything was here around Santa Fe, I must be very honest that something strange happened this weekend, it is incredible the loneliness that was in the neighborhood, even that it was payday this weekend. In the clubs you could see that there was movement but in the streets, loneliness was seen, even though Santa Fe never ceases to be an attraction, beautiful girls, good places to have fun and much more, it was a slow weekend.
Johny V.
My first visit to Colombia. Staying 4 days in Bogota wish me.
Luck.
KangarooTed
08-07-19, 09:11
I've mentioned the Beyonce Dwarf a couple times but I couldn't recall the exact location. To those who were asking, she is here, next to the Tejo on 15 Bis.
Looks identical to Beyonce, but a dwarf, of course.
Many gringos get sick when they visit pacific cities due to new virus, bacteria, etc.WHats the link to the famous Routard list / FAQ? I can't find it.
Any preggos on the Sante Fe streets? I used to enjoy preggos in Thailand.
Showdown.
Go to the main Colombia page and scroll down to the lower section it is down there. Great info and I used it my first time in Bogota, I still have not been to Santa Fe but I travel solo and the daytime Chapinero action was good for me. Maybe this next trip in Sept I will venture down there, I do like me a pretty vene.
WHats the link to the famous Routard list / FAQ? I can't find it.
Any preggos on the Sante Fe streets? I used to enjoy preggos in Thailand.
Showdown.
Go to the main Colombia page and scroll down to the lower section it is down there. Great info and I used it my first time in Bogota, I still have not been to Santa Fe but I travel solo and the daytime Chapinero action was good for me. Maybe this next trip in Sept I will venture down there, I do like me a pretty vene.I have tried finding it too, no luck any chance of putting up a direct web link please.
World Travel 69
08-09-19, 18:53
Carrera 15 Bis and Calle 19.
I've mentioned the Beyonce Dwarf a couple times but I couldn't recall the exact location. To those who were asking, she is here, next to the Tejo on 15 Bis.
Looks identical to Beyonce, but a dwarf, of course.
World Travel 69
08-09-19, 18:57
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.6117204578915505%2C-74.07713858786713&z=18
WHats the link to the famous Routard list / FAQ? I can't find it.
Any preggos on the Sante Fe streets? I used to enjoy preggos in Thailand.
Showdown.
I have tried finding it too, no luck any chance of putting up a direct web link please.http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1#post2241562.
GnoggInFan
08-14-19, 19:48
Hey guys,
First time posting here. I'm in Bogota for the next month, new to this hobby and have no idea where or how to start. I've found several girls on Twitter who I would like to see though I'm hesitant to trust them. I found this place called Sex On The Way which is two blocks away from the place I'm staying. I know it was briefly mentioned nearly a year ago in that huge October report, but there wasn't much info beyond that.
Does anybody have any info to share on this place? Or any other suggestions on where to start here in Bogota? Thanks!
World Travel 69
08-14-19, 23:09
I stopped by there in February.
Carrera 9 # 57-76. 9+ Girls. Prices: 60k 20 min., 100k 30 min., 150k hour. Tel:+57 345 4355, Cell: 313 219 6609 6608. Hours: 9 am to 9 pm. http://serviciosprepagos.com/sex-on-the-way-chapinero/?age-verified=368edfe4c4
I just checked the place out. I got there in early morning.
I only saw a couple of Chicas.
To me the price seemed high. Maybe later the other chicas would have been worth it.
I had not taken my Viagra so I passed.
Hey guys,
First time posting here. I'm in Bogota for the next month, new to this hobby and have no idea where or how to start. I've found several girls on Twitter who I would like to see though I'm hesitant to trust them. I found this place called Sex On The Way which is two blocks away from the place I'm staying. I know it was briefly mentioned nearly a year ago in that huge October report, but there wasn't much info beyond that.
Does anybody have any info to share on this place? Or any other suggestions on where to start here in Bogota? Thanks!
KangarooTed
08-15-19, 08:09
Hey guys,
First time posting here. I'm in Bogota for the next month, new to this hobby and have no idea where or how to start. I've found several girls on Twitter who I would like to see though I'm hesitant to trust them. I found this place called Sex On The Way which is two blocks away from the place I'm staying. I know it was briefly mentioned nearly a year ago in that huge October report, but there wasn't much info beyond that.
Does anybody have any info to share on this place? Or any other suggestions on where to start here in Bogota? Thanks!You are probably only 5 minutes walk from Pussy House.
Also, if you click on the link provided a few posts down from here by Routard, then scroll down a few posts and click on the Central link, that will show you all the activity close by.
Then of course there Santa Fe to the South on the other link and as well the Northern area link also should you wish to explore further, all within 20 minutes dependent on traffic.
By the way I don't think you need to trust less the Twitter girls than anyone else. Worth a shot IMHO.
World Travel 69
08-15-19, 17:26
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.647160748891766%2C-74.06626580903298&z=17
You are probably only 5 minutes walk from Pussy House.
Also, if you click on the link provided a few posts down from here by Routard, then scroll down a few posts and click on the Central link, that will show you all the activity close by.
Then of course there Santa Fe to the South on the other link and as well the Northern area link also should you wish to explore further, all within 20 minutes dependent on traffic.
By the way I don't think you need to trust less the Twitter girls than anyone else. Worth a shot IMHO.
Great write up. I'm new to this. Been to MDE 3 times. Last two was with girl I wanted as a g / f. She wanted my attention and $$ but wouldn't give me any loving. Def. Could use a wingman in Santa Fe next time you go. Thanks!!
Want to go to SF. Speak Spanish. Not too comfortable going alone. Can you elaborate on what to do and not to do. Thanks again. If you need a wingman, lmk. I'm down.
I went to Bogota alone a few months ago, and planning on going again soon. You should be pretty safe in the block immediately around the main clubs, where Paisas, Venus, etc are. Don't go past that, and don't go lower than Piscina's street. You'll have a metric ton of putas to choose from in terms of street girls, and the clubs have girls in them as well. There are more street girls immediately west, a few streets down, but I didn't feel as safe as there were more locals walking around and the area had more little restaurants, so there were just more people "hanging out" than the club area. I felt uneasy there, and didn't walk through them without a friend with me.
As for a cab in SF, there are cabs that park in front of Paisas (taxis con confianza), those are more trustworthy cabs. You may pay a little more, as they charged me anywhere as much as 3,000 - 8,000 more pesos than a regular cab, but in terms of getting into a safe cab at 2 am In the morning. There's nothing better, no worries about getting robbed and such.
My first few days there were pretty nerve-wracking, but I got the hang of it in the last two or three days, and I'm super ready to go back now. Probably the best week I'd spent in a long time.
Sorry for the late reply. Looking to head to Bogota now. The bello girl didn't pan out. Oh well.
Went back 2 x to "try" to form a relationship with her. Every time out, she basically wanted me to take her and her cherished son places that they could never afford. Didn't pan out. But she's pure gold to the guy that captures her heart. Off to Bogota and not looking for love. Just want to have a good time now. I'm a hopeless romantic unfortunately.
I'm blondish with green, wanting Spanish (learning) and 2 meters tall, in centro just use common sense, don't disrespect anyone even the druggies or tranies, walk with a purpose and you would be surprised what you will find given some patience and time.
Question. What do you mean that you "went back to Bello 2 x"? Many girls are from Bello, I have personally know some real cuties over the past 3 or 4 years and some I still see and play with from time to time. Elaborate on your statement.
The Tall Man.
Sorry for the late reply. Looking to head to Bogota now. The bello girl didn't pan out. Oh well.
Went back 2 x to "try" to form a relationship with her. Every time out, she basically wanted me to take her and her cherished son places that they could never afford. Didn't pan out. But she's pure gold to the guy that captures her heart. Off to Bogota and not looking for love. Just want to have a good time now. I'm a hopeless romantic unfortunately.I think you meant "pure gold digger."
These girls can be a lot of fun, but there's almost zero chance of the average guy to develop any sort of normal relationship with them. You're starting in 2 different worlds.
For the girls it's easier. They just need to find someone who is willing to spend the money to match her expectations of the typical gringo lifestyle. That's where the guys problems begin.
Their idea of our lifestyle comes from music videos and interactions with gringo mongers. They see guys who can afford to spend 2-4 months of Colombian salary, just to fly to Medellin. Then they spend money to have a place with hot water, air conditioning and a jacuzzi. They eat in restaurants that charge 4 times as much as the restaurants where the girls live and it's the same food! And to top it off, the guys don't bat an eye paying 100,200, even 300 k just to spend a little bit of time with the girls. And those are just the typical gringos. What about the guys who are spending $500-$1000 USD per day to take girls on vacations outside Colombia?
But most of us guys can't spend like we do on vacation all the time. The girls don't understand that. If you start out taking them to the best restaurants in Medellin or Bogota, they'll expect that in Miami, New York, London.
To further complicate things, most guys looking for a Colombian girlfriend or wife are expecting a bargain. Their middle class home is much better than where the girl came from, so she should be happy to cook and clean and fuck while living on a budget. Right?
This is just a reminder for the guys thinking they'll spend a few days in Colombia and end up with the love of their life. You're setting yourself up for an expensive lesson.
If you're really trying to find a long term relationship, you need to put in the time and establish a more realistic foundation. Take 6 months to a year off. Go there. Take some Spanish classes if you need. Live simply and cheaply. Keep your dates low key. Take girls to the better budget restaurants. Take them on the metro or buses instead of taxi and Uber. Don't buy their affection, earn it.
You will probably still fail to find what you're looking for, but it'll be a much cheaper lesson. Of course, if you're looking for a girlfriend or wife 20-30 years younger than you, it's going to be hard without buying her.
Surf Looker
08-17-19, 21:06
Av. Carrera 15 #104-03.
Good mix, avg, some above avg.
Surf Looker
08-18-19, 01:19
Just go up the floor and you will see 4 spas in the corners in each side and you can see the girls and prices.
60,80, 100 mil.
Av. Carrera 15 #104-03.
Good mix, avg, some above avg.
Just go up the floor and you will see 4 spas in the corners in each side and you can see the girls and prices.
60,80, 100 mil.Yes. That's the place referred to as the mezzanines.
Sante fe is basically 3 streets: Carrera 15 to 16 a with Calle 22 to 19.
Chicas all over waiting by the street. Once you agree she will take you to the closest room. Price she quotes include the room.
Make sure to have the exact change, once a girl pretended the room wasn't included to get more (but only once in 3 weeks, not bad).
At first I was on the edge about about safety but after few days realized it's quite safe within those streets. Always lots of people around.
The only trouble you could have is in the quiet streets to get there.
But honestly, after 3 weeks going there almost daily, never had any issue, day time as late night, on my own and waking from another neighborhood..Interesting to hear you found Bogota different to what you are used to in SE Asia, I am planning a trip to Bogota next month after having mainly mongered in Pattaya. I have decided to switch to Bogata simply because the cost of fucking in Pattaya has shot through the roof. Soi six, BF, LD and whatever the lady gets being around 1600 baht or $176,000 COP as to what I am reading around $40,000 Cop for a sweet streety Santa Fe girl. Have you exp Pattaya lately if so as far as getting ones dick deep into pussy which do you think is better value? SE Asia or Bogota?
The Tall Man
08-18-19, 17:27
Sorry for the late reply. Looking to head to Bogota now. The bello girl didn't pan out. Oh well.
Went back 2 x to "try" to form a relationship with her. Every time out, she basically wanted me to take her and her cherished son places that they could never afford. Didn't pan out. But she's pure gold to the guy that captures her heart. Off to Bogota and not looking for love. Just want to have a good time now. I'm a hopeless romantic unfortunately.
I'm blondish with green, wanting Spanish (learning) and 2 meters tall, in centro just use common sense, don't disrespect anyone even the druggies or tranies, walk with a purpose and you would be surprised what you will find given some patience and time.
Question. What do you mean that you "went back to Bello 2 x"? Many girls are from Bello, I have personally know some real cuties over the past 3 or 4 years and some I still see and play with from time to time. Elaborate on your statement.
The Tall Man.
I think you meant "pure gold digger."
These girls can be a lot of fun, but there's almost zero chance of the average guy to develop any sort of normal relationship with them. You're starting in 2 different worlds.
For the girls it's easier. They just need to find someone who is willing to spend the money to match her expectations of the typical gringo lifestyle. That's where the guys problems begin..Spot on from JjBee. Listen up to all your "hopeless romantics", first I must admit that I too use to fall into this category but here in Colombia the very best advice that I can give anyone is do NOT take anything or anyone serious, especially the chicas. I will be the first to admit that I had to learn this life lesson.
I don't give a shit how well they fuck you in bed or how they can look into your eyes and your feeling that they are touching your soul, how when they tell you that "age difference does not matter" or how they treat you when around in public. Enjoy it ABSOLUTELY but never take anything serious.
I know it is difficult but please follow this advice. I can spend days detailing real experiences that I have had and some ongoing, hell just twice in the past 2 days with 2 different paisas proclaiming their undying love and devotion to me and guess what? Yep this same chicas are some of the girls that some of you think is all into you.
I have no dog in this fight but I understand the culture and heck the girl that you may think is all into you and you want to consider for a long term relationship could be the same girl that I fucked for 3 hours last night in a motel here in Medellin, mummm believe it or not this is how they roll here in Medellin. Take it for what it is and nothing more please.
The Tall Man.
Spot on from JjBee. Listen up to all your "hopeless romantics", first I must admit that I too use to fall into this category but here in Colombia the very best advice that I can give anyone is do NOT take anything or anyone serious, especially the chicas. I will be the first to admit that I had to learn this life lesson.
I don't give a shit how well they fuck you in bed or how they can look into your eyes and your feeling that they are touching your soul, how when they tell you that "age difference does not matter" or how they treat you when around in public. Enjoy it ABSOLUTELY but never take anything serious.
I know it is difficult but please follow this advice. I can spend days detailing real experiences that I have had and some ongoing, hell just twice in the past 2 days with 2 different paisas proclaiming their undying love and devotion to me and guess what? Yep this same chicas are some of the girls that some of you think is all into you.
I have no dog in this fight but I understand the culture and heck the girl that you may think is all into you and you want to consider for a long term relationship could be the same girl that I fucked for 3 hours last night in a motel here in Medellin, mummm believe it or not this is how they roll here in Medellin. Take it for what it is and nothing more please.
The Tall Man.Right on, Tall Man. I consider myself lucky, learning this life lesson early, saving myself a lot of grief and aggravation. There's always those guys that think: "Yeah, I understand, but my girl is different. " To those guys, here's my advice: Don't be an idiot. I repeat, don't be an idiot. Just move on to the next girl once the one you're with goes south. There are more girls out there than anyone could possibly get with. Why would you stick with one? And, every time you come back, there will be new ones. This is a game of "taking". Once you start "giving" you'll be giving more and more, and that's when they take advantage of you. If a guy really wanted to, he'd have a better chance finding something real in the small villages, rather than in the cities. Head into eastern Colombia and you'll see what I mean, but most are too scared to do that. If you want to stay in the cities, just love them and leave them.
Madra Bid Dog
08-18-19, 22:24
Will be in the area this week. If anybody needs a wingman. Avoiding zona rosa and the clubs this time, mostly focused on Santa Fe.
Mr Enternational
08-18-19, 23:24
I have decided to switch to Bogata simply because the cost of fucking in Pattaya has shot through the roof. Soi six, BF, LD and whatever the lady gets being around 1600 baht or $176,000 COP as to what I am reading around $40,000 Cop for a sweet streety Santa Fe girl. Have you exp Pattaya lately if so as far as getting ones dick deep into pussy which do you think is better value? SE Asia or Bogota?That is because you are doing it wrong. I have told you guys time and time again negotiate 700 for the girl and pay 300 for the room at the bar. No idea how you get to 1600 unless you are buying a bunch of drinks.
As far as better value, that is all relative. First you have to compare apples to apples. I would say a Santa Fe casa or street chick would be akin to Beach Road chicks. In Santa Fe you can pay 40,000, but on Beach Road you are going to pay at least 55,000 (500 baht). But of course a vacation consists of more than how much it will cost to stick your dick into some pussy. You could find some $40 chicks around where you live that would lessen the need for you to travel at all if that was the only thing that counted.
You can't just ask what is the better general value, because in Pattaya you have the 22,000 COP crack shacks to the 1 million COP gogo girls. In Bogota you have the 30,000 Santa Fe chicks (I am sure there is something cheaper somewhere that even I do not want to see) to those expensive ass zona rosa places where it will cost you 70,000 just for a beer.
Mr Enternational
08-18-19, 23:32
Right on, Tall Man. I consider myself lucky, learning this life lesson early, saving myself a lot of grief and aggravation. There's always those guys that think: "Yeah, I understand, but my girl is different. "Your girl could just as well be different. IMO it does not take a genius to realize when one is being used. If you have to give a chick money then no your girl is not different. If you have a girl like my chick in Cali that makes 1 million pesos / month and sometimes makes desserts to sell for extra money and does not ask you for anything but to spend time with her then you girl is different.
KangarooTed
08-19-19, 09:53
Interesting to hear you found Bogota different to what you are used to in SE Asia, I am planning a trip to Bogota next month after having mainly mongered in Pattaya. I have decided to switch to Bogata simply because the cost of fucking in Pattaya has shot through the roof. Soi six, BF, LD and whatever the lady gets being around 1600 baht or $176,000 COP as to what I am reading around $40,000 Cop for a sweet streety Santa Fe girl. Have you exp Pattaya lately if so as far as getting ones dick deep into pussy which do you think is better value? SE Asia or Bogota?I've been to both this year.
Obviously you can get a Street girl in Pattaya for less than a soi six girl but anyway.
Bogota can present far better value; but there are other factors, like where are you flying in from? How much or how long are your flights?
Also, you are comfortable mongering in a beachside village with thousands of other foreigners and everyone speaks English or Thainglish; how will you be in a city of 8 million, no falang about and no one speaks a word of English?
If you'll think you'll be fine then just go and see, no problem you won't know until you go. Yea, it's cheaper.
Will be in the area this week. If anybody needs a wingman. Avoiding zona rosa and the clubs this time, mostly focused on Santa Fe.Hey Madra,
I arrive on Wednesday night for a week and I'll be staying at San Francisco. I might go Wednesday when I arrive, at 12-1 am, or Thursday to during the day. Let me know if you'd like to meet up.
Bango Cheito
08-20-19, 08:46
WHats the link to the famous Routard list / FAQ? I can't find it.
Any preggos on the Sante Fe streets? I used to enjoy preggos in Thailand.
Showdown.If your Spanish is good, just go to Santa Fe and ask on the streets and they will probably be able to link you up.
Or go to mileroticos.
Bango Cheito
08-20-19, 08:50
Your girl could just as well be different. IMO it does not take a genius to realize when one is being used. If you have to give a chick money then no your girl is not different. If you have a girl like my chick in Cali that makes 1 million pesos / month and sometimes makes desserts to sell for extra money and does not ask you for anything but to spend time with her then you girl is different.Honestly, I think this is a Cali thing. Girls there are generous. And HORNY AF!
Bango Cheito
08-20-19, 08:57
Guys, I"m going to be brutally honest here.
Do NOT aim for an LTR with a girl in Colombia, no matter how good it looks and no matter how good her English is.
UNLESS.
You truly and deeply understand the cultural vectors from here. And there are many sets of them, depending on where chica is from in this country. Sometimes they mix. It gets complicated.
You have knowledge of your own culture that you take for granted that you do NOT have here unless you've taken the time to EARN it.
There are a few of us here (Enternational Woodman Routard and I) who have been living here for a long time OR been coming here forever and the rules truly change for us.
Before you even consider anything more long-term than a FWB arrangement with a girl here, you need to have strong mastery of the language, meaning you never need a joke translated for you and you can even make your own level of mastery and you need to be well aware of all the cultural nuances of here.
Honestly, I personally would suggest you just enjoy yourself and throw those fantasies in the garbage where they belong. Oneitis is stupid, and it's even stupider here. Just assume that nobody is ever going to commit to you long term (and nor you to them) and life is paradise here.
Guys, I"m going to be brutally honest here.
Do NOT aim for an LTR with a girl in Colombia, no matter how good it looks and no matter how good her English is.
UNLESS.
You truly and deeply understand the cultural vectors from here. And there are many sets of them, depending on where chica is from in this country. Sometimes they mix. It gets complicated.
You have knowledge of your own culture that you take for granted that you do NOT have here unless you've taken the time to EARN it.
There are a few of us here (Enternational Woodman Routard and I) who have been living here for a long time OR been coming here forever and the rules truly change for us.
Before you even consider anything more long-term than a FWB arrangement with a girl here, you need to have strong mastery of the language, meaning you never need a joke translated for you and you can even make your own level of mastery and you need to be well aware of all the cultural nuances of here.
Honestly, I personally would suggest you just enjoy yourself and throw those fantasies in the garbage where they belong. Oneitis is stupid, and it's even stupider here. Just assume that nobody is ever going to commit to you long term (and nor you to them) and life is paradise here.Well said. I think time is needed to get in good with a girl from any culture other than your own. I once had a great LTR with a Peruvian / Costa Rican mix, but that's only because she came up to NY for college and we had the time to get to know each other (and I had time to learn culture and Spanish).
I believe what you've said to be true for girls from Bogota, Medellin, Cali, Cartagena, ect, but as someone who has lived and traveled a lot in Colombia, I'm curious to know your thoughts about girls from smaller towns, or even remote areas like Mitu, or Inirida. I certainly haven't been everywhere in the country, but the out-of-way places I have been to, I've found girls to be a little hesitant at first, but then very interested and receptive to foreigners that have a grasp of Spanish and interest in their culture. In my opinion, it's easier to develop a LTR in lesser visited places. What's your opinion on the subject?
Mr Enternational
08-20-19, 20:53
I've found girls to be a little hesitant at first, but then very interested and receptive to foreigners that have a grasp of Spanish and interest in their culture.This makes me think of something I encounter with chicks. What does culture have to do with anything? In my opinion shit. I am always taken aback when a chick says you don't understand because you are not from my culture. Or this is not working because we are from different cultures. As if being from the same culture makes everything peechy keen.
I then ask, well what happened with your last boyfriend. He cheated on me, or he was an abuser, or he didn't show me enough attention, etc. But aren't you from the same culture? Works the same way with religion. They want a guy that is Christian. But wasn't the last mf that was beating on your ass and cheating on you Christian? I think I am too logical for many people.
P. S. I did get an MBA in International Business because I like to study different cultures. But I have found that when male-female relationships are concerned, except for a couple of customs, cultural differences really play no factor. You can see this when people in the military go all over the world marrying people from different countries. That corporal in the Army can not say kiss my ass in Korean, but he and his wife and their 2 kids seem to be getting along just fine.
My girl didn't give me any sexual affection at all. But she did introduce me to her entire family. A school teacher, sweet caring. Kept me from going to her house in Bello B/ C it was too dangerous. Did drop her off on the corner. She was petrified that something would happen to me. I'd talk to her on the phone and hear a guy screaming "policia" like every few minutes or so. She told me it was a "MESA" that was basically a lookout. She said there was one on every street corner. Since she was from there, she had nothing to worry about. I think she was very genuine. But the age difference and the fact that I did not live there was the big issue. She mentioned that several times.
Guys, I"m going to be brutally honest here.
Do NOT aim for an LTR with a girl in Colombia, no matter how good it looks and no matter how good her English is.
UNLESS.
You truly and deeply understand the cultural vectors from here. And there are many sets of them, depending on where chica is from in this country. Sometimes they mix. It gets complicated.
You have knowledge of your own culture that you take for granted that you do NOT have here unless you've taken the time to EARN it.
There are a few of us here (Enternational Woodman Routard and I) who have been living here for a long time OR been coming here forever and the rules truly change for us..
Coming to Bogota this Saturday for a week. Anybody interested in meeting this Sunday?
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Madra Bid Dog
08-21-19, 08:34
Sounds good man, I'm here already. I can not send private messages, so we going to have to figure out how to meet. May be at the San Francisco.
Hey Madra,
I arrive on Wednesday night for a week and I'll be staying at San Francisco. I might go Wednesday when I arrive, at 12-1 am, or Thursday to during the day. Let me know if you'd like to meet up.
This makes me think of something I encounter with chicks. What does culture have to do with anything? Again some impeccable logic from Mr E.
After a lot of travelling, I have concluded that the differences in thinking / feeling between people from different countries aren't nearly as big as the differences between men and women. And as far as culture goes, differences between countries are less significant than differences between social classes within countries. If you are middle class, you are more likely to have a successful LTR with a middle class Colombian than with someone who is working class from your own country. And if you're liberal, you'll have more thinking in common with a Colombian liberal than with a conservative from your own country.
I am now seeing a Venezuelan girl from an impoverished middle class family. I started talking to her on SA last year. A large number of girls cannot hold a conversation beyond: "Hola amor, como estαs? But this one I could talk to. Her spanish spelling is better than mine, which cannot be said for many of the girls I chat to. She was at home in VZ with no options in life, but recently made it out to Bogotα. So I took a risk and sent her money to take a bus and come and stay with me for a week, sight unseen. The first two nights she was shy and wouldn't let me touch her, but then she warmed up and it was well worth it. Shy, innocent, full of sexual desire, tall, slim, curious, intelligent, honest. Just what I like. She's never done P4 P, and yes, I believe her. Unlike some forum members who think that all females in Colombia are prostitutes, because they have never interacted with "normal" women. Now she is impatiently waiting for my return. I plan to send her money to survive on, which I wouldn't do for someone I met as P4 P. In 12 years she'll be half my age.
Again some impeccable logic from Mr E.
After a lot of travelling, I have concluded that the differences in thinking / feeling between people from different countries aren't nearly as big as the differences between men and women. And as far as culture goes, differences between countries are less significant than differences between social classes within countries. If you are middle class, you are more likely to have a successful LTR with a middle class Colombian than with someone who is working class from your own country. And if you're liberal, you'll have more thinking in common with a Colombian liberal than with a conservative from your own country.
I am now seeing a Venezuelan girl from an impoverished middle class family. I started talking to her on SA last year. A large number of girls cannot hold a conversation beyond: "Hola amor, como ests? But this one I could talk to. Her spanish spelling is better than mine, which cannot be said for many of the girls I chat to. She was at home in VZ with no options in life, but recently made it out to Bogot. So I took a risk and sent her money to take a bus and come and stay with me for a week, sight unseen. The first two nights she was shy and wouldn't let me touch her, but then she warmed up and it was well worth it. Shy, innocent, full of sexual desire, tall, slim, curious, intelligent, honest. Just what I like. She's never done P4 P, and yes, I believe her. Unlike some forum members who think that all females in Colombia are prostitutes, because they have never interacted with "normal" women. Now she is impatiently waiting for my return. I plan to send her money to survive on, which I wouldn't do for someone I met as P4 P. In 12 years she'll be half my age.Hopefully you are older than 49.
. If you want to stay in the cities, just love them and leave them.I saw an excellent quote in another ISG forum, like fishing "Catch and release".
Hopefully you are older than 49.Ha, I was thinking the same thing. The only thing that Venezuelan girl is loving is the money.
Hi guys,
I need a taxi service from airport to hotel San Francisco in Bogota. I asked the hotel, but they just told the price and not if it's possible to pick me up. I Asked again, until now no answer. Calling, I did it two times, nobody speaks English so it doesn't make sense to call again. I don't speak Spanish. Any idea? Thanks.
I didn't bother to go in this place on my last trip. But it is definitely in a perfect location. Does anybody know anything about it? I assume it has to be very girl friendly (even for Venezuelan s with no passport). Is it reasonably clean (I. E. A step up from the short time rooms)? What's the deal with this place?
I didn't bother to go in this place on my last trip. But it is definitely in a perfect location. Does anybody know anything about it? I assume it has to be very girl friendly (even for Venezuelan s with no passport). Is it reasonably clean (I. E. A step up from the short time rooms)? What's the deal with this place?Great question.
Mr Enternational
08-22-19, 17:58
Hi guys,
I need a taxi service from airport to hotel San Francisco in Bogota. I asked the hotel, but they just told the price and not if it's possible to pick me up. I Asked again, until now no answer. Calling, I did it two times, nobody speaks English so it doesn't make sense to call again. I don't speak Spanish. Any idea? Thanks.Walk outside and get into a taxi and tell them to take you there.
Hello ISG.
It have been two weeks since I last posted, but I am here now, during the last two weeks I have been in many places besides Santa Fe, I want to share my experiences about it. In the day houses in Chapinero are a lot of beautiful girls and everyday are new girls in there, lots of restaurants really good restaurants, fancies and cheap ones. Here in Bogota you can find a lot of things to do, for men is like heaven, you don't have to be only in Santa Fe but Primera de Mayo is also good, many clubs in North Bogota are really good too. You just need to have a little spirit of adventure and find somebody to show you everything. You'll find a lot fun in Bogota.
Johny V.
I didn't bother to go in this place on my last trip. But it is definitely in a perfect location. Does anybody know anything about it? I assume it has to be very girl friendly (even for Venezuelan s with no passport). Is it reasonably clean (I. E. A step up from the short time rooms)? What's the deal with this place?Hi,
I know several ISGers / Gringos who have stayed there.
Room with Kitchen is 50 mil room without 30 mil.
RajGupta125
08-22-19, 21:42
Hi guys,
I'll be in Bogota this Sunday. Staying for a week.
If anyone is around and wants to meet up for drinks and bar / club hopping PM me. Looking forward to hanging out. I'll be staying at Hotel Saint Simon.
Thanks.
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I know several ISGers / Gringos who have stayed there.
Room with Kitchen is 50 mil room without 30 mil.Thanks alot. Any word on the cleanliness / girl friendliness?
Elvis 2008
08-23-19, 04:01
I am now seeing a Venezuelan girl from an impoverished middle class family. I started talking to her on SA last year. A large number of girls cannot hold a conversation beyond: "Hola amor, como ests? But this one I could talk to. Her spanish spelling is better than mine, which cannot be said for many of the girls I chat to. She was at home in VZ with no options in life, but recently made it out to Bogot. So I took a risk and sent her money to take a bus and come and stay with me for a week, sight unseen. The first two nights she was shy and wouldn't let me touch her, but then she warmed up and it was well worth it. Shy, innocent, full of sexual desire, tall, slim, curious, intelligent, honest. Just what I like. She's never done P4 P, and yes, I believe her..Sigh, I met one in Aruba, flew out there, moved her to Peru. Then moved her sibling and whole family there. We fell in love. Her family liked me, and my family went to Lima and met her, and they liked her. We talked of having children. One night she got dressed up, and I was like, "Fuck, this girl is a 10." Sex was great early on then less off it, started putting me down more: the shaming, the finger pointing, all the irresponsible shit I thought was just American women. She reminded me of my ex-wife.
A female friend of mine told me to look at all her social media. She said, "All these idiots think they can hide shit on social media, and they can't". She found her instagram page and sure enough it was like she suspected. There were all pictures of her family, friends, and none of me. Even one had the #love on it next to a guy. I was pissed, but she did zero about it to fix it. She was working when she told me she wasn't. Well, she was in on of these multimarket scams. Family pleaded with me to go to Lima and get her back. She even broke up with me before I broke up with her. Unbeknownst to my family, I decided to go to Bogota instead and offered to fly her here. I didn't hear from her. From nearly married with kids to being fucking ghosted.
I met up with Woodman last night. Streets filled with Venezuelan women. My woman would have been one of them without me.
Venezuelans are fucked up. They think that they are rich because of their oil reserves, and the world stole from there, so it is okay to steal from others. After Western nations got ripped off, China and Russia moved in and they have gotten ripped off now. Maybe it's not fair to characterize all Venezuelans this way, but I was afraid that I would lose my woman to another man, and I did. I lost her to this stupid Ponzi scheme known as imarketslive or IML, and the guy was this sleaze ball founder, Christopher Terry. It makes Amway look ethical. You don't have to work, just trade currencies. Working is for suckers. That is the socialist way right?
I don't think you can live in a country that fucked up and leave it unscathed, people eating from the trash. Jesus. It would be nice to see someone commit to a Venezuelan and them honor their word. Maybe that isn't fair but when you grow up in a culture of lies, it is hard to not lie yourself. Then you throw women in the mix and it is even worse. Yes, I think my girl was a narcissist, but how many hot women are normal? I think if I were to get married again it would have to be to an unattractive woman. Don't kid yourself, guys. These women really rarely love you. I literally got this woman out of hell, and this is what she did. Her family swore she was loyal, but in my heart, I think she was fucking around on me.
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