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Woodman09
12-28-19, 05:26
Exactly, or possibly Woodman charges more to those he can exploit. I did send a couple of PMs but never got a price for his "tour". I am sure it is not free. Many other men on this site will be happy to be a Wingman and visit the clubs with you for FREE! I am not trying to start trouble, because he is a great source of information, but if this is a business and commercial enterprise he should be transparent or exposed by the rest of us men.Uh, gee whiz, never got a message from you. Actually only senior members can send PMs here, So there is that. But as I said all you have to do is Google Woodman ISG.

Mr Enternational
12-28-19, 07:45
Sure, you can get a wingman for free. Ever tried to change your brake pads with a friend who never did it before either? An experienced person can help you avoid a lot of mistakes and enhance the overall experience. Well since you asked. 1990 was in the Navy and a shipmate had a Saab 900. I called myself changing the pads for him. What I didn't know was that car required a special tool to compress the caliper piston. You could not just push it back in like any normal car. Fucking disaster. I should have had a Woodman with me.

TaderHead
12-28-19, 08:03
First time there and was blown away. I was about 25 min away from SF and by myself so didn't venture down there. Maybe next time. Instead I called up eroticasbogota and requested Ximena. She was at my hotel in an hour. OMG 19 why why / o and just like the pics. Spoke a little English (better than my Spanish) and we used google translate for the rest. 300 COP for GFE, pics, and videos. All I can say is wow and I can't wait to go back.

Fake Nick
12-28-19, 10:17
How did you send him PM? You don't seem to have the ability to send PM yet.Try to figure it out.

MtVadose
12-28-19, 15:53
I arrive to Bogota 3rd January, will probably spend a week before moving on, plan to see Medellin, Cali and Cartagena along with some tourist places over 6 weeks.

I'll visit Santa Fe and chapinero area casas for the experience but I generally prefer longer term with a more semi pro, my current plan is to use seeking. Or are there any better options, Latin america cupid, tinder, specific clubs or anything else?

Woodman09
12-28-19, 19:34
I was walking through SF last night just going to grab a schwarma wrap. No intention of boning down. Actually kind of broke until next week.

And there she was, Maye a supercutie 20 yr old. Looks like Brittney in Hit Me Baby One More Time video.

Anyhow I had just started hitting that about 6-8 weeks ago and she went back to Venezuela.

I have been looking for her ever since because the sex is electric, I make scream and she lets me gag her and pull her hair. Also just love the BBBJ when she slobbers all over my cock like a porn starlet.

I think she likes my old ass, hard to believe, I'm her papa gringo. I feel like Humbert in Lolita, By the way RIP Sue Lyon.

So when I saw her we were so happy, she wanted to get busy I told her I wanted to but I need to take a pill.

I ended up getting some vitamin V and spending some of my last weekend cash. I will see her tonight again, she just texted me.

Get to Bogota and Live Your Best Life.

Dcrist0527
12-28-19, 19:42
I am very familiar with Tijuana, started my Tijuana mongering visits in about 1998 and weekly visits from about 200 thru 2004 then back to monthly visits from 2005 through 2010, all the spots CC and AB and HK and Bar Trop, etc.

Now for the past 3 years living in Medellin. Yes everything that you say is true and more.

I did stop in HK this past July when I visited friends in Rosarito Beach for the 4th of July holidays, brings back many many memories of fun times had in the past 2 plus decades in Tijuana.

The Tall Man.I'm familiar with your posts from the Tijuana forums. I've spent quite a bit of time in Tijuana over the last three years but looking to try something different. I'm looking at Columbia or the Dominican Republic. Doing research now. But I'd greatly value your opinion. I'm looking for an HK-type experience; I'm not one that needs a 9-10, but I enjoy the social experience. I'd love to find a similar experience along with some spa / full service massage options. I've looked into Bogota more but maybe I should look towards Medellin for my first visit?

Woodman09
12-29-19, 00:44
I arrive to Bogota 3rd January, will probably spend a week before moving on, plan to see Medellin, Cali and Cartagena along with some tourist places over 6 weeks.

I'll visit Santa Fe and chapinero area casas for the experience but I generally prefer longer term with a more semi pro, my current plan is to use seeking. Or are there any better options, Latin america cupid, tinder, specific clubs or anything else?Lotta guys down here have had great luck with Tinder. You can actually get some kind of SA type deal with girls in SF too.

NeilGeorge
12-29-19, 03:15
Uh, gee whiz, never got a message from you. Actually only senior members can send PMs here, So there is that. But as I said all you have to do is Google Woodman ISG.I agree with Nick. If Woodman is going to charge newbies for his little "tours" then the moderators should make him disclose up from his prices. This website is for helping others as brothers in mongering, not running commercial enterprises and taking advantage of the newbies.

The Tall Man
12-29-19, 06:44
I'm familiar with your posts from the Tijuana forums. I've spent quite a bit of time in Tijuana over the last three years but looking to try something different. I'm looking at Columbia or the Dominican Republic. Doing research now. But I'd greatly value your opinion. I'm looking for an HK-type experience; I'm not one that needs a 9-10, but I enjoy the social experience. I'd love to find a similar experience along with some spa / full service massage options. I've looked into Bogota more but maybe I should look towards Medellin for my first visit?Now that I live in Medellin (going on 3 years now) my old Tijuana days feel like a lifetime ago, gawd damn the memories and fun times I have had in HK, AB, CC, Bar Trop I could write a book, now I think about what I spend over the close to 16 years playing around there.

Well welcome to these boards and you need to come visit, don't bother with the DR as the Sue has changed dramatically, my last visit to the DR was about 3 years ago and just no reason to go back.

Honestly you can't go wrong picking either Bogota or Medellin and if you have the time you need to experience both. Just know that the set up is different than our beloved HK club in Tijuana, not better nor worse but just different, so when you come don't have any expectations rather just come and experience it.

I have been reading lately how the HK prices are pushing $100 for a 30 min session which is $200. For the hour, damn that $200 USD equals about 650.000 pesos here in Colombia, as a point of reference a club in Medellin such as Fase Dos (chicas are about 7 to 9's) and you pay 200.000 pesos for about one hour with some fun cute latinas (paisa), and heck my typical all nighter, example 8 PM till the next day about noon and I give my stable of girl about 150.000 or $50 USD.

Now the casas both here in Medellin and Bogota for that matter are fun, you pick from a line up and the cost is about 35,000 (yes about $12. USD) to upwards of about 70.000 pesos (about $23. USD) and you get about 45 minutes, and you can find some real sweeties.

And if you choose Bogota let me give a shout out to woodman, I know him personally, went chasing chicas a few nights around Sante Fe in Bogota with him and a few other guys a few times this year, lots of fun, he is as real and legitimate as they come, and you should see some of the cuties he finds, everything he writes here on the forums are real, damn impressive.

So you just need to come and see for yourself.

The Tall Man.

IsaBahn
12-29-19, 13:59
I arrive to Bogota 3rd January, will probably spend a week before moving on, plan to see Medellin, Cali and Cartagena along with some tourist places over 6 weeks.

I'll visit Santa Fe and chapinero area casas for the experience but I generally prefer longer term with a more semi pro, my current plan is to use seeking. Or are there any better options, Latin america cupid, tinder, specific clubs or anything else?See my latest posts. In Bogota most of the escorts are what you see is NOT what you get. I found only one reliable escort agency but they are more expensive. My best recommendation for you is to go to one of the massage places or even better one of the sex clubs like Troya and find a girl you like there. You can take her to your place for less price and you can check if you two have good chemistry together before. Usually the girls would love to stay with you for longer time in a nice hotel.

Dcrist0527
12-29-19, 15:52
Now that I live in Medellin (going on 3 years now) my old Tijuana days feel like a lifetime ago, gawd damn the memories and fun times I have had in HK, AB, CC, Bar Trop I could write a book, now I think about what I spend over the close to 16 years playing around there.

Well welcome to these boards and you need to come visit, don't bother with the DR as the Sue has changed dramatically, my last visit to the DR was about 3 years ago and just no reason to go back.

Honestly you can't go wrong picking either Bogota or Medellin and if you have the time you need to experience both. Just know that the set up is different than our beloved HK club in Tijuana, not better nor worse but just different, so when you come don't have any expectations rather just come and experience it.

I have been reading lately how the HK prices are pushing $100 for a 30 min session which is $200. For the hour, damn that $200 USD equals about 650.000 pesos here in Colombia, as a point of reference a club in Medellin such as Fase Dos (chicas are about 7 to 9's) and you pay 200.000 pesos for about one hour with some fun cute latinas (paisa), and heck my typical all nighter, example 8 PM till the next day about noon and I give my stable of girl about 150.000 or $50 USD..Thanks, Tall Man. After spending more hours RTTF yesterday than I care to admit, I'm leaning more towards giving Medellin a whirl. And really good advice! I don't really plan on hunting that HK experience. I'm looking more for a club experience, despite my age, at best average looks and solo status. LOL I just enjoy the flirting and pursuit.

As for HK, yes, $100 is becoming more common. It's been months since I've sessioned with a chica there but I have spent more money than I'd like to admit on alcohol. LOL.

Again, thanks for the advice! Going to focus efforts on the Medellin information and try to avoid another trip down Coahuila. LOL.

JjBee62
12-29-19, 20:35
I agree with Nick. If Woodman is going to charge newbies for his little "tours" then the moderators should make him disclose up from his prices. This website is for helping others as brothers in mongering, not running commercial enterprises and taking advantage of the newbies.You seem to be confused about the purpose of the forum. It does exist for us to share information. There are hundreds of pages of information available for you to read. You can even, if you're a paid member, ask questions to different members to get specific answers. Most guys are happy to help. But where does it say members are required to help you in person? Just because you can ask the best way to get from the airport to the hotel doesn't mean I'm obligated to pick you up and take you there for free.

Why should the moderators, or admins, force him to do anything? Nobody is forcing anyone to seek out Woodman09. There's no ISG representative at the airport demanding you go spend a few hours hanging out with him.

If you're interested in a tour, send him a message, get a price and then decide if it's a fair price. He's not going to take you to Santa Fe and then demand 3 million pesos. I'm sure he'll give you a fair rate up front.

Where does taking advantage of newbies come into play? He's there. He has a life. He has things to do. I assume he spends part of his time earning money to support himself. If you ask someone to take time off of work to help you with something, shouldn't you pay them? Especially if you ask a complete stranger. Try it sometime. Walk into a local plumber's office and ask if they can take time off work to come snake out your drains for free.

If you're going to Bogota you can try to hook up with someone to be your wingman. YMMV. I've met up with several "I'm almost fluent in Spanish" mongers who are limited to a 100 word vocabulary. I've met up with guys who claim to know the city like the back of their hand, but they can only find 3 places. I've met guys I couldn't wait to get away from, along with guys who felt like long lost friends. I've scheduled to meet with guys who changed plans at the last minute and left me hanging.

There are plenty of reports from guys who decided to tackle Santa Fe on their own. Some did fine. Some hated it. Some were terrified and couldn't get out fast enough. Most of those people would have had a better experience if they had first contacted someone like Woodman.

Member #4708
12-30-19, 00:41
Exactly, or possibly Woodman charges more to those he can exploit. I did send a couple of PMs but never got a price for his "tour". I am sure it is not free. Many other men on this site will be happy to be a Wingman and visit the clubs with you for FREE! I am not trying to start trouble, because he is a great source of information, but if this is a business and commercial enterprise he should be transparent or exposed by the rest of us men.Not sure I'm of the same opinion. If he makes a buck or a fuck for going out of his way to wingman a noob then more power to him. Think I have some additional reading here to do, but FWIW my interest wasn't meant to stir the pot.

WindAngel
12-30-19, 09:26
I agree with Nick. If Woodman is going to charge newbies for his little "tours" then the moderators should make him disclose up from his prices. This website is for helping others as brothers in mongering, not running commercial enterprises and taking advantage of the newbies.You are agreeing with a new comer who does not have PM access while claiming have sent PM to Woodman? What are you agreeing with? I have used Woodman as my guide. He was great and very helpful. He actually saved me money on more than one occasion. It's not much money but he made sure I was not overcharged.

Balboa
12-30-19, 17:18
You seem to be confused about the purpose of the forum. It does exist for us to share information. There are hundreds of pages of information available for you to read. You can even, if you're a paid member, ask questions to different members to get specific answers. Most guys are happy to help. But where does it say members are required to help you in person? Just because you can ask the best way to get from the airport to the hotel doesn't mean I'm obligated to pick you up and take you there for free.

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There are plenty of reports from guys who decided to tackle Santa Fe on their own. Some did fine. Some hated it. Some were terrified and couldn't get out fast enough. Most of those people would have had a better experience if they had first contacted someone like Woodman.Agreed 100%.

Good Post IMO.

IronQuinn
12-30-19, 17:55
You guys want a tour guide to Santa Fe? Here you go.

Step 1: Learn just some basic Spanish.

Step 2: Walk down Car. 15 from the corner of cal. 24 until you get to cal. 23, scoot down 23, and then loop back up to 24.

Step 3: Approach a girl you like, make small talk, buy at least 30 minutes, don't go over 60 mil.

Step 4: Bang your girl at a nearby short time hotel.

Step 5: Walk out of the hotel with a smile on your face.

That'll be $200 please.

Seriously though guys, if you can navigate a large international airport to find your gate, you can do Santa Fe. Anyone can spend their money how they want to, and if you want someone to show you around, that's your choice. I'm thankful for the expats who share stories on here, they have great info. They should-they live there for Christ's sake! What did you do before this forum, or before cell phones and digital maps? You traveled. You explored. The first time I mongered in Colombia, I walked around (by myself) till 1 am learning the layout. I ended up with a cute 20 yr old with a great bubble butt. I remember it well, not just for the sex, but also for the experience of getting out there.

Now, if you're one of those guys who watches the news reports and believes that the entire world is one big murdering zone, or books "adventure tours" to get a "genuine experience", or have no sense of adventure, then by all means you should get an expat to help you out. However, if you're a traveler, and can navigate those big airports, you'll be just fine.

Aganex01
12-31-19, 00:41
I agree with Nick. If Woodman is going to charge newbies for his little "tours" then the moderators should make him disclose up from his prices. This website is for helping others as brothers in mongering, not running commercial enterprises and taking advantage of the newbies.This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on these forums. I am glad people are supporting Woodman. I've never used his services but to force ISG to police and regulate the tours? LOL. And the guy doesn't even advertise and barely promotes.

Woodman, I hope you don't stop offering your services or get sour from 2 people. Most people realize how inane this is.

DeepXliv
12-31-19, 04:36
Hi all, I've never been to Bogota, went to Cartagena by my self in May and had a ton of fun. I'll be there Jan 17-26 if anyone else is there. Just a few questions. I've seen Ibis is a good option but everyone goes to Santa Fe for a good time, why is that a better option then getting an airbnb in Santa Fe? Has anyone done this? I'm going with a buddy so I'm not alone and I'm not stupid or plan on getting wasted. Appreciate the advice I'll be more active as I get ready for the fuckfest.

LoverBoy1024
12-31-19, 06:08
I am going to Colombia in February and am greatly appreciative of the maps for Medellin and Bogota. I don't need anyone to hold my hand though. Actually I won't have time because I will be busy. But this forum is a great resource to me so I will report when I'm back! For those timid travelers who need help. Its a great resource too. Thanks to everyone.

LB.

KangarooTed
12-31-19, 10:59
Has anyone done this?.If your question is about airbnbs in the Santa Fe area, there are several around there that I stay in.

For me they are far superior to the hotel options.

Regarding their location, all are 900 metres or less to walk to La Piscina, for example.

Walking either straight down Avenidia Caracas.

Or dependent on what I'm doing before or after I'll walk down 13 a and cross Caracas at the Transmilenio at Calle 24. Either way 10 minutes or less.

SimonSixSigma
12-31-19, 16:21
Bogota was the first city in Colombia I landed. I had zero Spanish skill when I reached Bogota. Woodman gave me a pretty good tour, waited for me during the sessions and showed me all of the clubs.

Its not a big deal once I learned passable Spanish and I did it many times later but I would definitely not have been able to do it in the beginning. He is a pretty decent guy and we still bump into each other in Santa Fe usually showing some other guy around. I tag along him and its also a great way to meet new mongers.

Thanks Woodman for your help and tours. Please keep up the work.

Woodman09
12-31-19, 19:03
If your question is about airbnbs in the Santa Fe area, there are several around there that I stay in.

For me they are far superior to the hotel options.

Regarding their location, all are 900 metres or less to walk to La Piscina, for example.

Walking either straight down Avenidia Caracas.

Or dependent on what I'm doing before or after I'll walk down 13 a and cross Caracas at the Transmilenio at Calle 24. Either way 10 minutes or less.Another good area to stay about 1 mile away from SF in the area north adjacent to La Candelaria.

One high rise building that is new named Bacata has some nice AirBnBs also there are others in nice buildings near there on and nearby Calle 19.

Also Many in Teusaquillo and Palermo Barrios.

DeepXliv
12-31-19, 19:29
If your question is about airbnbs in the Santa Fe area, there are several around there that I stay in.

For me they are far superior to the hotel options.

Regarding their location, all are 900 metres or less to walk to La Piscina, for example.

Walking either straight down Avenidia Caracas.

Or dependent on what I'm doing before or after I'll walk down 13 a and cross Caracas at the Transmilenio at Calle 24. Either way 10 minutes or less.Okay great I want to have the option to bring chicas back and I'm going with a friend so we were leaning the airbnb route.

Woodman09
12-31-19, 21:06
I found another GF hooker so hot so fun so compliant.

Been in SF for last 3 nights, Lotsa hotties, less traffic. The girl forecast in Santa Fe for January is looking good as Chico used to say.

Kib123
12-31-19, 22:59
Carrera 20 a # 72-30, small door next to a hardware store. 10+ Masajistas. Prices: Massage+sex 30 k 20 min. , 40 k 30 min. , 50 k 40 min. , 60 k 50 min. , 70 k hour, BBBJ extra 40 k, __k trio. Tel: 310 766 9128.

Hours: Monday till Saturday 9 am to 9 pm. https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/mamada-al-natural-con-venida-en-boca-x-40-mil-linda-venezolana-cel3219356330/8159740/.Thanks WT and others. Landed yesterday and paid this place a quick visit to unload my stress. At least 10 ladies in line up, all below average, I chose one with a pretty face, but chubby (Tatiana or something), from Venezuela. BBBJ was mediocre, but she delivered on the main event, seemed to enjoy herself and had a sweet personality. A place to visit in a pinch. Damage was 50 k / hh (as quoted on Whatsapp).

Today I was busy so ordered take out from Photoprepagos (always a risk, but better GFE prospects): https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/barrios-unidos/soy-una-hermosa-prepago-dispuesta-hacer-todo-para-complacerte-id-swgqc . Angelica looks exactly like the pics (with the dyed hair) and delivered a very convincing GFE performance with MSOG. She's from Venezuela, said she's been in Colombia only a month. Will maybe repeat before I leave. Damage was 180 k (160 k + 20 k transport).

Question: Have the Venezuelans taken over the provider business in Bogota like the Romanians in Western Europe? Or has it been a mere coincidence?

Question 2: Is Jan 1 a dead day for mongering?

Kib123
12-31-19, 23:50
One thing that surprised me is that many Banks that in the past let me use their ATMs for cash withdrawals for free (using a CC) now charge a fee. Bancolombia wanted 3% on 600 k max, Itau wanted 2% on 720 k max, I declined both and kept searching. Scotiabank allowed free withdrawal, and also had the most generous limit of 900 K pesos (about 270 USD).

Not sure which other banks allow free withdrawals from their ATMs. An update from an expert would be nice.

KangarooTed
01-01-20, 00:41
Another good area to stay about 1 mile away from SF in the area north adjacent to La Candelaria.

One high rise building that is new named Bacata has some nice AirBnBs also there are others in nice buildings near there on and nearby Calle 19.Agree with this location, I've stayed at the Bacata itself, and also down on CL. 23 #5 in the Torre K 5-23 building and others in that street.

If I walk from there down Calle 19 it gives me a different approach to the bars once I cross over Caracas, or, I'll just walk down Calle 22.

Either way, walking from there is 15 minutes or less.

And, there are some great food options in that location all around the no traffic section of La Septima, and some excellent (normal) bars on a walk in the direction of La Candelaria.

KangarooTed
01-01-20, 01:10
Bancolombia wanted 3% on 600 k max, Itau wanted 2% on 720 k max, I declined both and kept searching. Scotiabank allowed free withdrawal, and also had the most generous limit of 900 K pesos (about 270 USD).

Not sure which other banks allow free withdrawals from their ATMs. An update from an expert would be nice.Oh hey, I'm no expert and often it depends what your original bank is, so best to check as you did.

However, from experience, I only fux with Scotiabank, and Citibank for free withdrawals. The amount available varies from ATM to ATM - 1. 2 mill can be an option.

GeneHickman
01-01-20, 01:45
One thing that surprised me is that many Banks that in the past let me use their ATMs for cash withdrawals for free (using a CC) now charge a fee. Bancolombia wanted 3% on 600 k max, Itau wanted 2% on 720 k max, I declined both and kept searching. Scotiabank allowed free withdrawal, and also had the most generous limit of 900 K pesos (about 270 USD).

Not sure which other banks allow free withdrawals from their ATMs. An update from an expert would be nice.**not and expert*.

That said, I think there is an app called ATM Hero or something like that which gives you the nearby ATMs and their charges. I used it when I was in Colombia and it worked out pretty good.

DeepXliv
01-01-20, 01:45
I found another GF hooker so hot so fun so compliant.

Been in SF for last 3 nights, Lotsa hotties, less traffic. The girl forecast in Santa Fe for January is looking good as Chico used to say.I'm pumped to hear that!

DeepXliv
01-01-20, 01:48
One thing that surprised me is that many Banks that in the past let me use their ATMs for cash withdrawals for free (using a CC) now charge a fee. Bancolombia wanted 3% on 600 k max, Itau wanted 2% on 720 k max, I declined both and kept searching. Scotiabank allowed free withdrawal, and also had the most generous limit of 900 K pesos (about 270 USD).

Not sure which other banks allow free withdrawals from their ATMs. An update from an expert would be nice.I love my card, reimburses me for any atms fees. Sorry not helpful or an expert just had to flex haha.

Cm6363
01-01-20, 03:29
One thing that surprised me is that many Banks that in the past let me use their ATMs for cash withdrawals for free (using a CC) now charge a fee. Bancolombia wanted 3% on 600 k max, Itau wanted 2% on 720 k max, I declined both and kept searching. Scotiabank allowed free withdrawal, and also had the most generous limit of 900 K pesos (about 270 USD).

Not sure which other banks allow free withdrawals from their ATMs. An update from an expert would be nice.I've been coming here for years for an ex-novia. I got the impression that Scotia dropped their 18 mil fee on this trip starting in November. Guess I was right.

Some brokerage firms don't charge you for fees on their end, but don't know of any banks or brokerages that reimbursed foreign bank ATM fees? If you know of any, share the wealth.

Cm6363
01-01-20, 03:31
Any recommendations for the best place for the College Football Bowl games?

Anyone interested in watching Michigan tomorrow?

Cheers & Feliz Ao Nuevo!

PirateMorgan
01-01-20, 12:31
So listen CAREFULLY. You want to use the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. NOT the Colpatria ATM. Not the Scotiabank ATM. They are different. You want the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. It is different. A combination of the two. I THINK it will say on the front that you can take out 2,700,000 pesos each day. I take out 900,000 3 times. Works best for me. Any other use of ATMs in Colombia is dumb. Search around and you will find the 'good' Colpatria / Scotia ATMs. Don't get fooled!

John Gault
01-01-20, 14:02
Regarding the issue of using a guide when you go to a area that is new to you, I would like to add my thoughts on this matter that has been brought to light on this board.

I myself tend to go to locations that I have already have experience in the area.

No matter what knowledge a Monger has it is very hard not to make mistakes in a new area. A learning experience is always needed, and this costs time, and money. Lets say you go to bars that are not good or your pick the wrong girls { Starfish }. Now we all know with girls it is YMMV, but almost 100% if a trusted fellow tells you a girl is a Starfish then she is one. That alone is worth paying a few bucks for that kind of Intel.

In regards to Woodman I have a very trusted Wingman who just told me he used Woodman's services in the past on his first trip to BOG, and it was not expensive, and very informative.

For me when I try out a new area I always RTFF, and look to get help from boots on the ground.

Now if you are the guy who doesn't like to pay a fellow to help him out then so be it.

CzarNicholas
01-01-20, 19:02
So listen CAREFULLY. You want to use the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. NOT the Colpatria ATM. Not the Scotiabank ATM. They are different. You want the Colpatria / Scotiabank ATM. It is different. A combination of the two. I THINK it will say on the front that you can take out 2,700,000 pesos each day. I take out 900,000 3 times. Works best for me. Any other use of ATMs in Colombia is dumb. Search around and you will find the 'good' Colpatria / Scotia ATMs. Don't get fooled!https://asocialnomad.com/colombia/atms-fees-in-colombia/

SoberHans69
01-01-20, 19:21
After much deliberation on my next holiday destination, thought about Africa or Brazil), I've finally decided on Bogota after seeing the great value Santa Fe offers.

Planning on booking Woodman for a tour but hopefully I can navigate on my own after that if I can't find a wingman.

Few questions though-.

I plan on staying close to Santa Fe, is it safe to walk around the area where the San Francisco hotel is for example as I love to do lots of walking?

Also I have read many times not to use your phone in Santa Fe. If someone doesn't speak any Spanish, what's the best way to negotiate with the SW's if you can't use Google translate on your phone?

Thanks.

Zeos1
01-02-20, 03:26
https://asocialnomad.com/colombia/atms-fees-in-colombia/Interesting. Next time I'm there definitely try that. Have a Scotiabank card from home. That certainly didn't help me in the past.

BillyBee
01-02-20, 05:11
Had Woodman's tour couple days ago, Very well worth it, I was with him when he was with that hottie that he posted pictures of earlier this week. No exaggeration there, that girl was a nine. Actually I have never had that in my life that I walked down a street and there are dozens of available girls, and every single one is very fuckable, and waiting for you to talk to them. Absolutely have him show you Santa Fe and all the clubs and bars there. Even for the more experienced monger, can learn something new.

For newbies and poor Spanish speakers you are going to need him, he can help you get the girl you want instead of just any, or even worse none. While woodman went to play with the second hottie for the night, was taking a break on the street, and I saw lot of guys too afraid to enter clubs, or talk to girls, so they just ended up walking around achieving nothing. Don't be those guys, if you need the help get it. With his help was even able to land some phone numbers for hooker girlfriend experiences at my place.

As far as safety is concerned I guess, it is the same as any other mongering zone, common sense prevails, maybe take the 30 carat diamond, 18 carat white gold Rolex off before going out. Just a suggestion.

Melman111
01-02-20, 11:07
Hi Dear,

Area around Santa FE is bit sketchy but you can walk easily. I would prefer taxi in dark. Taxi will take you to street where all the clubs are. You can roam between clubs and during this time better not to show off your phone and valuables. You can use translation and easy to communicate. Normally in all clubs standard time is 20 mi utes room hire that is paid by girl. She will charge you 60,000 or 70,000 peso for 20 minutes. Maid in hotel (specially paisa club will seek some tip and it will help you to get better room and bit tolerant with time). There is police presence at night and better get taxi when you come back. Many girls are willing to go to your hotel. Always talk photo of taxi number plate and let drive clearly know what are you doing. Try to talk to some one on the phone and pretend to talk in english detailing taxi and number. It will ensure driver will not even dare to cheat you or mug you. I been there for 4 nights and did not have any problem. I took ladies to my hotel Tequendama and once ladies are with you are more safe in taxi. Hygiene is not great as you cannot take shower only wash your private part. So better take with you mouth wash and wipes in case you want to meet multiple ladies. You can overcome your hygiene issue but also ask girl to use your mouth wash to clean her mouth (otherwise she might have sucked previous client tool and kissing will be unhygienic). I overcomed hygenic fears using mouth wash and wipes. It is damn cheap and just under $100 you can fuck 3-4 girls (20 minutes watch).

IronQuinn
01-02-20, 18:26
Had Woodman's tour couple days ago, Very well worth it, I was with him when he was with that hottie that he posted pictures of earlier this week. No exaggeration there, that girl was a nine. Actually I have never had that in my life that I walked down a street and there are dozens of available girls, and every single one is very fuckable, and waiting for you to talk to them. Absolutely have him show you Santa Fe and all the clubs and bars there. Even for the more experienced monger, can learn something new.

For newbies and poor Spanish speakers you are going to need him, he can help you get the girl you want instead of just any, or even worse none. While woodman went to play with the second hottie for the night, was taking a break on the street, and I saw lot of guys too afraid to enter clubs, or talk to girls, so they just ended up walking around achieving nothing. Don't be those guys, if you need the help get it. With his help was even able to land some phone numbers for hooker girlfriend experiences at my place.

As far as safety is concerned I guess, it is the same as any other mongering zone, common sense prevails, maybe take the 30 carat diamond, 18 carat white gold Rolex off before going out. Just a suggestion.Even though I agree that anyone can spend their money how they want, let's not make this sound like everyone needs an expat to show them around. You'll be giving people (especially newbies) the wrong impression. This is the greatest info I can give to anyone coming to a country to monger: be prepared. Some people out there want all the rewards without putting in any effort. If someone relies on somebody else to make decisions for them, and plans on using their phone for translation purposes, that person is a fool. You have no control over anything, and become a dependent rather than choosing your own way. That's the guy you don't want to be.

There are plenty of girls in Santa Fe, and they know why you're there. This makes it even easier. Of course you can get the girl you want, just go up and talk to her. Learn basic Spanish, really just basic will do. Ask her where she's from, what her name is, how old she is, and tell her she has a nice smile. You'll have a blast if you just do basic preparation. Why would anyone be afraid to talk to the girls? They are there to make money from you. You hold all the cards. I don't want to sound harsh on this, but just have some backbone. And to any newbies, you can do this easily. I did and so can you. I realize there might be some spineless desk jockeys in here, but I hope most in here would agree you need to put forth some effort.

BillyBee
01-02-20, 20:23
I am imparting my own personal experiences. Its what I observed when I was out and about, also before I had any Spanish language knowledge was about the same for me. Do as you please that is clear to anyone. We are not dealing with children reading this forum. (Yikes hopefully not. LOL). Not everyone is pretending to be victimized by manipulation. It is clear that I am recommending him due to MY experiences. I am not everyone, I am just ONE guy, voicing my opinion.

Actually now that I reread your post is kind of like my own posting but in different words. Kind like you took my post and reworded it. In other words come prepared, learn some Spanish, or get a guide. Or do both. Woodman told me he has given tours to people that have been mongering for many many years, not only to do with newbies, so its for everyone. Also his tours last for a certain amount of hours, not forever, eventually everyone will be on their own, whatever they choose to do.

The only thing I left out in my post is, most importantly, he is a great guy to hang around with.


Even though I agree that anyone can spend their money how they want, let's not make this sound like everyone needs an expat to show them around. You'll be giving people (especially newbies) the wrong impression. This is the greatest info I can give to anyone coming to a country to monger: be prepared. Some people out there want all the rewards without putting in any effort. If someone relies on somebody else to make decisions for them, and plans on using their phone for translation purposes, that person is a fool. You have no control over anything, and become a dependent rather than choosing your own way. That's the guy you don't want to be.

There are plenty of girls in Santa Fe, and they know why you're there. This makes it even easier. Of course you can get the girl you want, just go up and talk to her. Learn basic Spanish, really just basic will do. Ask her where she's from, what her name is, how old she is, and tell her she has a nice smile. You'll have a blast if you just do basic preparation. Why would anyone be afraid to talk to the girls? They are there to make money from you. You hold all the cards. I don't want to sound harsh on this, but just have some backbone. And to any newbies, you can do this easily. I did and so can you. I realize there might be some spineless desk jockeys in here, but I hope most in here would agree you need to put forth some effort.

JjBee62
01-02-20, 21:43
Even though I agree that anyone can spend their money how they want, let's not make this sound like everyone needs an expat to show them around. You'll be giving people (especially newbies) the wrong impression. This is the greatest info I can give to anyone coming to a country to monger: be prepared. Some people out there want all the rewards without putting in any effort. If someone relies on somebody else to make decisions for them, and plans on using their phone for translation purposes, that person is a fool. You have no control over anything, and become a dependent rather than choosing your own way. That's the guy you don't want to be.

There are plenty of girls in Santa Fe, and they know why you're there. This makes it even easier. Of course you can get the girl you want, just go up and talk to her. Learn basic Spanish, really just basic will do. Ask her where she's from, what her name is, how old she is, and tell her she has a nice smile. You'll have a blast if you just do basic preparation. Why would anyone be afraid to talk to the girls? They are there to make money from you. You hold all the cards. I don't want to sound harsh on this, but just have some backbone. And to any newbies, you can do this easily. I did and so can you. I realize there might be some spineless desk jockeys in here, but I hope most in here would agree you need to put forth some effort.Your advice is good except it doesn't take into account one thing. Not all people are wired the same.

One extreme example is an old buddy of mine. He could, and would, say anything to anyone and get away with it. I've seen him walk up to a group of bikers and start asking each of them when was the last time they jerked off. Within 20 minutes they were all his best friends. He could talk a nun into a blowjob. If he had hit Bogota in his prime he would have had guys lined up to pay the street girls double and he'd have the girls giving him all the free pussy he could handle, even though they were getting the same price they always got.

Then there was my old roommate. Nice guy, reasonable looking. Couldn't get laid if he crawled up a hen's ass. My girlfriend used to bring girls over for him. Each time the girl was stuck there for the night. He never even managed to get a kiss from one of them. The last one, we all played strip poker then got in the hot tub naked. She ended up in the shower with me and my girlfriend. That guy, in Bogota, would never venture south of Calle 93. Unless I took him to a casa, picked out a girl and paid her, he would sit in his hotel and admire the trees.

Some guys need a wingman. Some guys don't. Some need just a few tips and some need a babysitter. If someone ends up in Bogota and can't work up the nerve to take the plunge alone, hopefully he can find someone to ease him into it.

NeilGeorge
01-03-20, 00:31
I plan on staying close to Santa Fe, is it safe to walk around the area where the San Francisco hotel is for example as I love to do lots of walking?
Also I have read many times not to use your phone in Santa Fe. If someone doesn't speak any Spanish, what's the best way to negotiate with the SW's if you can't use Google translate on your phone?

Thanks.Have stayed at the hotel San Francisco a couple of times. Even the front desk people will tell you it is NOT safe to walk around outside after dark. During the day it is generally safe, but I have been followed and bothered by skanky pesty men in that area during the daytime also. I have also been warned not to take the street taxis because the drivers will take the wrong route on purpose to run up the tab, however the hotel designated taxi drivers will try to overcharge too by not using a meter and quoting you a gringo price when you get out. This is the tourist problem.

I recommend you stay at Hotel Museo IBIS pronounced "EEBEE". The rooms are much nicer and about the same price, there are restaurants downstairs that are quite good and a Crepes and Waffles around the corner. The area is somewhat safer and you can visit the museum right across the street, however the hotel concierge "white taxi" drivers will try to overcharge there, it has been my experience, I would recommend you stay away from them and use the street taxi drivers.

Melman111
01-03-20, 01:32
Hi DeepXliv,

I could not reply to your PM as you may have selected not to receive PMs, my reply to your PM is below:

Hi Dear,

Most Colombian girls are good in sex and GFE should not be an issue. Kissing is no issue at all, they will kiss you in few seconds. Oral without condom is ok 8 out of 10. Yes, if you take them for few hours, time starts when you are in Hotel. You can take their wattsapp numbers and can invite them next day if you like. Most Colombian girls will let you take photo or video as long as face is not exposed. Few allowed me photos without any question. It depends on your chemistry, trust and state of girl (after few drinks many girls are more open). Happy mongering.

Xavter
01-03-20, 05:14
I've seen some reports about the issues with taxis for gringos. Is Uber a better option since the pricing is set and the car / driver is traceable?

KangarooTed
01-03-20, 08:05
Hi Dear,

Always talk photo of taxi number plate and let drive clearly know what are you doing. Try to talk to some one on the phone and pretend to talk in english detailing taxi and number. It will ensure driver will not even dare to cheat you or mug you.Always interesting to get some varying tips from members.

I'm of a completely different view to the above advice that seems to be based on a misunderstood wives tale from before I was born.

My advice. Don't take photos of the taxi number. And don't try to talk to some one on the phone and pretend to talk in English detailing the taxi number.

According to my records the last time someone was mugged by a taxi driver was 1993.

So instead of messing about distracting yourself, just pay attention to where you are going and relax.

Woodman09
01-03-20, 18:56
Have stayed at the hotel San Francisco a couple of times. Even the front desk people will tell you it is NOT safe to walk around outside after dark. During the day it is generally safe, but I have been followed and bothered by skanky pesty men in that area during the daytime also. I have also been warned not to take the street taxis because the drivers will take the wrong route on purpose to run up the tab, however the hotel designated taxi drivers will try to overcharge too by not using a meter and quoting you a gringo price when you get out. This is the tourist problem.

I recommend you stay at Hotel Museo IBIS pronounced "EEBEE". The rooms are much nicer and about the same price, there are restaurants downstairs that are quite good and a Crepes and Waffles around the corner. The area is somewhat safer and you can visit the museum right across the street, however the hotel concierge "white taxi" drivers will try to overcharge there, it has been my experience, I would recommend you stay away from them and use the street taxi drivers.I live near the SF hotel about 3-4 blocks from. That area is not really dangerous there are machine gun toting soldiers 1 block away and police all over. The Colombians tend to be overly cautious IMO.

There are nice restaurants 3 blocks east on carrera 7 and also the Teusaquillo area where the soldiers are.

The area has many poor people but they are mostly not dangerous.

IronQuinn
01-03-20, 19:37
Your advice is good except it doesn't take into account one thing. Not all people are wired the same.

One extreme example is an old buddy of mine. He could, and would, say anything to anyone and get away with it. I've seen him walk up to a group of bikers and start asking each of them when was the last time they jerked off. Within 20 minutes they were all his best friends. He could talk a nun into a blowjob. If he had hit Bogota in his prime he would have had guys lined up to pay the street girls double and he'd have the girls giving him all the free pussy he could handle, even though they were getting the same price they always got.

Then there was my old roommate. Nice guy, reasonable looking. Couldn't get laid if he crawled up a hen's ass. My girlfriend used to bring girls over for him. Each time the girl was stuck there for the night. He never even managed to get a kiss from one of them. The last one, we all played strip poker then got in the hot tub naked. She ended up in the shower with me and my girlfriend. That guy, in Bogota, would never venture south of Calle 93. Unless I took him to a casa, picked out a girl and paid her, he would sit in his hotel and admire the trees.

Some guys need a wingman. Some guys don't. Some need just a few tips and some need a babysitter. If someone ends up in Bogota and can't work up the nerve to take the plunge alone, hopefully he can find someone to ease him into it.I hear you, man. Some people have it, and some don't. Good stories. Your old pal seems like a great guy, I'd have gotten along with him. It just seems crazy to me that some people are so fearful, when in reality, they're just working themselves up. You can lead a horse to water. Blah, blah, blah.

Mr Enternational
01-03-20, 19:51
Always interesting to get some varying tips from members.

I'm of a completely different view to the above advice that seems to be based on a misunderstood wives tale from before I was born.I don't understand the paranoia either. I have been to Colombia over 100 times. I have always just flagged a random taxi down, gotten in, told him where I was going, and paid once I got there. Why are people making it so complicated?

JjBee62
01-03-20, 20:55
I don't understand the paranoia either. I have been to Colombia over 100 times. I have always just flagged a random taxi down, gotten in, told him where I was going, and paid once I got there. Why are people making it so complicated?Everyone wants their horse to win. If they prefer to use Uber, they believe everyone is better off using Uber. If they always use taxis, they don't understand why anyone would bother with Uber.

I use the Transmilenio and the SiTP bus system and could care less how everyone else gets around.

It's the same with everything. It's all "my way is best. My hotel is best, my ATM is best."

Whatever works best for you, put on your Nikes and just do it.

KangarooTed
01-04-20, 04:05
I don't understand the paranoia either. I understand the paranoia. It's because members often post hearsay from 40 years ago, and others read it thinking it's relevant today and true.

In addition to the OP who believes you need to pretend to be talking on the phone to ". Ensure driver will not even dare to cheat you or mug you. " there are now other members that think they're going to get MUGGED by a taxi driver.

And the myth is perpetuated to infinity.

World Travel 69
01-04-20, 06:21
Ask The price for the Ride and pay them, what is right.

SoberHans69
01-04-20, 15:47
Hi Dear,

Area around Santa FE is bit sketchy but you can walk easily. I would prefer taxi in dark. Taxi will take you to street where all the clubs are. You can roam between clubs and during this time better not to show off your phone and valuables. You can use translation and easy to communicate. Normally in all clubs standard time is 20 mi utes room hire that is paid by girl. She will charge you 60,000 or 70,000 peso for 20 minutes. Maid in hotel (specially paisa club will seek some tip and it will help you to get better room and bit tolerant with time). There is police presence at night and better get taxi when you come back. Many girls are willing to go to your hotel. Always talk photo of taxi number plate and let drive clearly know what are you doing. Try to talk to some one on the phone and pretend to talk in english detailing taxi and number. It will ensure driver will not even dare to cheat you or mug you. I been there for 4 nights and did not have any problem. I took ladies to my hotel Tequendama and once ladies are with you are more safe in taxi. Hygiene is not great as you cannot take shower only wash your private part. So better take with you mouth wash and wipes in case you want to meet multiple ladies. You can overcome your hygiene issue but also ask girl to use your mouth wash to clean her mouth (otherwise she might have sucked previous client tool and kissing will be unhygienic). I overcomed hygenic fears using mouth wash and wipes. It is damn cheap and just under $100 you can fuck 3-4 girls (20 minutes watch).Thanks for the detailed reply.

Cm6363
01-04-20, 20:17
It always depends on the person's comfort level. For those unfamiliar with Bogota, Uber is good because you will know the price approximately when you order. The same for Beat and Didi, but the prices are better. Taxis are okay for short distances and if you are concerned about being taken for a ride, use the car services. Car services are also easier if you don't speak much Spanish. The advantage of taxis is that when they are available immediately, you don't have to wait a long time for a car servie. Also, there is no surge pricing which is becoming increasingly annoying.

Taxis have a meter. You check the double to low triple digit number against "un carta" and then add additional prices like COP 2,000 for arriving after 8 pm or Sunday & Holiday rides or to and from the airport COP 4,000. The taxi driver can also press the meter and it gives a price. Be careful though. I have seen the meter include extras and then the driver asks for the extra again. The additional costs are in a small box on the bottom left of the card.

Also note, Bogota's traffic is organized to make cars go strange routs because left turns crossing over opposing traffic are generally not permitted. Then again, going a few blocks out of the way for this will ring up an extra 10 c - 25 c. Don't sweat it.

Last, especially if you are not familiar with any city, take advice about not walking around in areas that look shady and just as importantly, isolated. In Bogota, a taxi ride for 10 blocks at night will cost you $1. 75. Why sweat it? Just use your instincts and err on the side of caution.

Elvis 2008
01-04-20, 21:06
Even though I agree that anyone can spend their money how they want, let's not make this sound like everyone needs an expat to show them around. You'll be giving people (especially newbies) the wrong impression.IQ, the first time I went to Santa Fe I went on my own and had an okay time with a woman in a room that was really beat down, and the woman was cute but pretty much average in the sack.

The next time I went to Santa Fe was with Woodman. He and I toured the strip clubs. He picked out the hottest stripper in a second and we settled in got dances from her, and I took her to the back for 15 minutes.

Woodman and I checked out the street scene. Once again, he honed in on a young girl with a huge chest that I would have passed up as she was not striking from a distance. He also told me the hotel she was working out of was new and nice, well nice for Santa Fe. I do not think I would have picked this one out. We go over to talk to her. I tell Woodman what I want (a massage, oral without), and he is negotiating price with her. She is negotiating with him as she skillfully is stroking my cock and I am feeling up her huge tits. It was the end of our tour, and the room and girl are both much better than what I negotiated on my own.

Woodman told me about good places to eat, where to get prescriptions like a testosterone booster at a decent price, and we talked about American v. Colombian women. When it came to safety, I said to Woodman, "This place has a crazy vibe, but it really doesn't seem that unsafe. ", and he said like he just did on this forum, "Yeah, it really is not that unsafe. ".

An ISG member and I hung out together a few times later, and we saw Woodman and talked to him and he was always friendly. He even gave us updates on the good things he saw. In the end, the best two women I had from Santa Fe were strippers and I met them like I met the best strippers in USA, more like right time and right place.

You don't need him to get a woman, but that was not the value he provided. For me, it was the recommendations of certain women, the hotels, a good pharmacy, quick information, affirming what I was seeing, negotiating with a woman to make certain I got exactly what I wanted (I got that when I did it on my own. It was just easier with someone who was fluent in Spanish.).

You don't need a guide to see Bogota in general, but I think if you get one, it will enhance your trip. I would say the same about Woodman, and that is why in my opinion, his tour was worth every penny. It is not necessary to get laid, but I think given his knowledge, you are much more likely to have a better time if you are a newbie than if you went to Santa Fe on your own. That is my experience anyway.

Elvis 2008
01-04-20, 21:18
In general, I preferred Uber because there is a record of where you are going, it is cheaper than taxis, and directions are much less of a problem. There were two exceptions.

If you are leaving Santa Fe, you are going to have a hard time getting an Uber driver to pick you up there in my experience. I found the wait times triple for Uber there.

If you are going to the airport, Uber is fine. If you want a ride on Uber from the airport, you have to meet the driver in the parking lot and connecting with the driver can be a pain.

I would recommend taxis for most people leaving the airport but make sure to negotiate the rates upfront. I got ripped off the first time I came to Bogota. When you leave Santa Fe, I would also recommend a taxi but just make sure you have your phone and GPS because a lot of the taxi drivers are not direction savvy. If you are coming from a long way out to Santa Fe, I would get a cab to Hotel Ibis and call for an Uber from there.

DeepXliv
01-05-20, 01:50
Hi DeepXliv,

I could not reply to your PM as you may have selected not to receive PMs, my reply to your PM is below:

Hi Dear,

Most Colombian girls are good in sex and GFE should not be an issue. Kissing is no issue at all, they will kiss you in few seconds. Oral without condom is ok 8 out of 10. Yes, if you take them for few hours, time starts when you are in Hotel. You can take their wattsapp numbers and can invite them next day if you like. Most Colombian girls will let you take photo or video as long as face is not exposed. Few allowed me photos without any question. It depends on your chemistry, trust and state of girl (after few drinks many girls are more open). Happy mongering.Hi,

Thanks a lot! My subscription expired at the worst time but I got it renewed haha.

TrueGent
01-05-20, 02:53
Took a walk around the local area ad picked up some flyers. May be of interest to some.

Kazeu
01-05-20, 08:34
If you have an android phone, You can also just download the app "Calculadora de tarifas" onto your phone and you just enter the number you see on the meter and add any extras in the app. Nice way to prevent getting ripped off.


It always depends on the person's comfort level. For those unfamiliar with Bogota, Uber is good because you will know the price approximately when you order. The same for Beat and Didi, but the prices are better. Taxis are okay for short distances and if you are concerned about being taken for a ride, use the car services. Car services are also easier if you don't speak much Spanish. The advantage of taxis is that when they are available immediately, you don't have to wait a long time for a car servie. Also, there is no surge pricing which is becoming increasingly annoying.

Taxis have a meter. You check the double to low triple digit number against "un carta" and then add additional prices like COP 2,000 for arriving after 8 pm or Sunday & Holiday rides or to and from the airport COP 4,000. The taxi driver can also press the meter and it gives a price. Be careful though. I have seen the meter include extras and then the driver asks for the extra again. The additional costs are in a small box on the bottom left of the card.

Also note, Bogota's traffic is organized to make cars go strange routs because left turns crossing over opposing traffic are generally not permitted. Then again, going a few blocks out of the way for this will ring up an extra 10 c - 25 c. Don't sweat it.

Last, especially if you are not familiar with any city, take advice about not walking around in areas that look shady and just as importantly, isolated. In Bogota, a taxi ride for 10 blocks at night will cost you $1. 75. Why sweat it? Just use your instincts and err on the side of caution.

Kazeu
01-05-20, 08:50
Yes it can be okay, if you're not stupid, but Santa Fe is quick to make examples of fools. From my personal experiences. I've been to Santa Fe probably between 20 to 25 times over the last 5 years and most of the times things have been uneventful, but.

- my first night ever in santa fe (cerca thanksgiving 2015) someone was shot and killed on the street.

- I witnessed my first and only knife fight break out in Santa Fe between 2 colombians. A crowd developed around these 2 guys who were dancing around each other west side story style.

- a friend (of a friend) of mine was bumped into by a street girl and had his iPhone X stolen out of his pocket. He was waving his phone around way too much prior to the incident. He did manage to recover it but it definitely dispelled the myth that santa fe was "safe" for him.

- I was staying at a short time hotel 1 block off santa fe and saw a guy beaten up by a group of other guys (like 5 on 1) right in front of my window. I asked the hotel staff what was happening, apparently the guy attempted to steal something from someone. Maybe this is a good thing?

- one time I had a bit too much to drink and these 2 colombians who I had "befriended" in troya relieved me of the cash I had in my bag while I went to the toilet.

This sort of stuff doesn't happen in most of the other places I hang around in, but I still keep going back. Go enjoy yourself, but be smart and be safe.


I live near the SF hotel about 3-4 blocks from. That area is not really dangerous there are machine gun toting soldiers 1 block away and police all over. The Colombians tend to be overly cautious IMO.

There are nice restaurants 3 blocks east on carrera 7 and also the Teusaquillo area where the soldiers are.

The area has many poor people but they are mostly not dangerous.

Ryck II
01-05-20, 14:16
I understand the paranoia. It's because members often post hearsay from 40 years ago, and others read it thinking it's relevant today and true.

In addition to the OP who believes you need to pretend to be talking on the phone to ". Ensure driver will not even dare to cheat you or mug you. " there are now other members that think they're going to get MUGGED by a taxi driver.

And the myth is perpetuated to infinity.Is not a myth. Years ago it was rather common for people to get kidnapped and robbed by taxi drivers, news outlets used to call it "paseo millonario" (millionaire journey). Basically a taxi would pick you up and stopped a few blocks away, then two or more people will get on each side of the taxi and made a short kidnap taking you to several ATMs to withdraw money. Banks have relatively low daily withdrawals in Colombia of about 400 USD due to this. Then they would drop you somewhere far. This stopped or at least was reduced when an organized group kidnapped an American former soldier and he fought and was stabbed and killed. The driver his accomplices and even they guy who cleaned the blood from the car afterwards were caught and some were extradited to the US. Since then you hear stories of people getting robbed in taxis but not as much as before. Problem is that the justice system is broken and tends to defend more the rights of the perpetrators than the rights of the victims. If you are robbed and the thief has, lets say a knife, and you pull out a gun and shot and injure him you'the probably end up in legal trouble accused of "lesiones personales" (personal injuries). First time thieves are normally not sent to jail either so they often get away with it. Criminal policy in Colombia includes not sending almost anyone to jail. So in short crime do happen and there is a huge amount of impunity. Is not a myth.

JjBee62
01-05-20, 15:34
Yes it can be okay, if you're not stupid, but Santa Fe is quick to make examples of fools. From my personal experiences. I've been to Santa Fe probably between 20 to 25 times over the last 5 years and most of the times things have been uneventful, but.

- my first night ever in santa fe (cerca thanksgiving 2015) someone was shot and killed on the street.

- I witnessed my first and only knife fight break out in Santa Fe between 2 colombians. A crowd developed around these 2 guys who were dancing around each other west side story style.

- a friend (of a friend) of mine was bumped into by a street girl and had his iPhone X stolen out of his pocket. He was waving his phone around way too much prior to the incident. He did manage to recover it but it definitely dispelled the myth that santa fe was "safe" for him.

- I was staying at a short time hotel 1 block off santa fe and saw a guy beaten up by a group of other guys (like 5 on 1) right in front of my window. I asked the hotel staff what was happening, apparently the guy attempted to steal something from someone..Of the 5 "dangerous" things you mentioned, 3 were not likely a problem or risk for you. When someone gets shot in the street there's usually a background story. You probably aren't going to get into a knife fight with anyone and aren't going to rob a Colombian. Scary situations to witness, but not likely to happen to any gringo visitor.

The other 2.

If you wave an iPhone X around in any area where the average person earns $200-$300 per month, you are better off without an iPhone X. He should be happy it was pick pocketed, instead of being requested by someone with a gun or knife.

No Colombian is going to become your friend in a strip club, or any other bar. Colombians go to the clubs to either enjoy the scenery, or fuck the scenery. Same reason why gringos go. Who thinks "I think I'll go to a strip club and meet some new friends?" You don't leave your bag anywhere. If I'm eating at Crepes and Waffles in Parque 93, my bag goes with me to the bathroom. Leaving it unattended in Troya, with or without some brand new "friends" to watch it is a clear sign you don't want anything in the bag, or the bag, or to ever see the bag, or your new friends again.

Here's a partial list of do's and don'ts:

Don't:

Walk around like a country boy seeing a city for the first time. Walk around playing with your phone. Carry or wear expensive things. Drink too much. Get involved in local disputes. Trust anyone. Leave anything unattended. Let anyone try to get you into a conversation in the street.

Do:

Carry only what you need. Walk with purpose. Be aware of your surroundings. Be polite. Keep your wits about you. Keep your belongings with you.

HIT123
01-05-20, 20:21
My friend Catalina a beautiful natural Venezuelan girl is looking for dates, She is advertising in Craigslist Colombia.Hi! , Unable to find her on Craiglist, please guide me to the section in Craiglist where I can find her. Thank you!

Diviant
01-05-20, 20:54
Hello,

I'll be going to Bogota next month. I could use some advice. I'll be staying near SF.

Quick about me:

I'm not a night owl and I don't drink. So I'll be a bit dull to some. I don't speak Spanish and I've read not to use a mobile. So?

I'll be looking for chicas but 15 min is not going to work, I would prefer an hour minimum. I would also prefer either my hotel or a neutral motel. I prefer GFE.

Questions:

Should I forgo the street scene and only look for prepagos?

I've read that I might try Colombian Cupid and tender. Good or bad idea?

I also thought about using one of those local guide sites for both an actual guide and.

Any thoughts or advice welcome.

KangarooTed
01-06-20, 10:59
RyckII,

You: "Years ago it was rather common for people to get kidnapped and robbed by taxi drivers. This stopped. ".

ME: "Members often post hearsay from 40 years ago, and others read it thinking it's relevant today and true".

Ain't nobody gunna get mugged by a taxi driver in 2020. It's a myth.

La Tunda on the other hand, that's real shit! Tener cuidado.

HIT123
01-06-20, 12:50
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Woodman would be great to meet you, I am planning to be at Bogota on 16th till 19th Jan. Please hit me on twitter.

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CanadaFlyer
01-06-20, 20:18
Well I finally made it to Columbia and now starting day 3. I'm feeling pretty sick today. The altitude is beating my ass. No chicas yet and fell Bogota is not really doing it for me. I've got 15 more days left and feel I should head north tomorrow.

I think its a real wake up call being down here. Its not as easy, and I feel I could really use some help.

Hope someone can give me some pointers.

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01-07-20, 02:36
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DeepXliv
01-07-20, 04:38
Well I finally made it to Columbia and now starting day 3. I'm feeling pretty sick today. The altitude is beating my ass. No chicas yet and fell Bogota is not really doing it for me. I've got 15 more days left and feel I should head north tomorrow.

I think its a real wake up call being down here. Its not as easy, and I feel I could really use some help.

Hope someone can give me some pointers.Oh no hope you getting better by tomorrow. I'm at sea level and coming next week, hopefully don't have the same issues as you, I've been to Quito which is a bit higher I think and I was fine. Make sure you drinking fluids and eating. I'd consider moving to Medellin tho.

DeepXliv
01-07-20, 04:39
Hi are there any good gyms near santa fe or ibis? Something in walking distance. Any idea on cost?

KangarooTed
01-07-20, 10:20
Hi are there any good gyms near santa fe or ibis? Something in walking distance. Any idea on cost?I joined Bodycare Gym on Calle 45 which is a 30 minute walk straight up Caracas from Santa Fe, or a 19 minute Transmilenio ride from the same, literally outside La Piscina.

It's an old school gym with most machines and free weights, more than enough for a solid session. And some bonus weird flashbacks from the 70's and 80's like the vibrating belt machine!

The offer is $70 K for a month but they may do a deal for a little less. One of the best investments I made was joining that gym and every second or third day smashing out a session before grabbing some lunch and an afternoon stroll up to the massages close by.

Another option much closer by is the Mac Gym 10 minutes walk to Calle 30.

It looks really old school in some photos I've seen but their facebook shows some more modern equipment.

I'm not sure how much it is, wander in and ask.

MtVadose
01-07-20, 16:39
Got to thank World travel 69 and anyone who contributes to the maps, makes life so easy, I used them to find everything. My plan was to try a bit of everything in my short time in Bogota.

Mezzanines.

First time went early afternoon, when you go up the stairs, mezzanine 8 on its own to the right 4 girls just sat in there. Left at the top of the stairs takes you to the other 4 or 5? When you walk round the corner they all come to the doors to meet you and get your attention maybe 3/4 from each door, a few looked good. One in the second door really stood out to me so I went with her. 100 k 1 hour, brief massage with teasing, B2B, then CBJ and sex, basic service one pop so wasn't there long being my first of the trip. Nowhere to wash, so the girl uses a water spray and paper towel to clean before getting changed, so hygiene is suspect in there.

Went another time late afternoon and think choose third door, 80 k 1 hour in this one. Same service as last time but had more fun with this one. We used the rooms in the last mezzanine, they have more space in there.

Santa Fe.

Didn't feel as dangerous as it was made out to be. I'd say the majority of girls look poor here, 90% you couldn't pay me to shag but there are some surprisingly great looking ones around in an amongst all that. My problem was when I decided it was time to room later on say 10 pm they had gone, I think early evening is best? So I settled for a girl I wasn't 100% on, small Venezuelan girl 35 k for 20 minutes and she was far too restricting and I'm easily put off so I went soft and called it a day. 20 k for a dance in paisas and definitely got my monies worth, long and everything goes. Drinks 6/7 k. You can easily hang out here alone without issue but I took Woodman's tour one night if anything to pick his brain on Bogota and Colombia. It was a good night out and he is a wealth of information on Bogota.

Chapinero.

First was here between 11 am-12 on a Saturday, easy to find the casas always one or a couple guys outside to direct you in, they ring a bell and the girls all come and introduce themselves. I wrote these notes shortly after but forgot a bit. At this time most places had zero other guys in.

Palmares real - 2 girls avaliable, chubby and not hot to me at all.

Casa Verde. About 10 girls, nearly all small / slim types. Maybe a couple ok but I'm very picky.

La bonita spa. Can't remember but none for me.

Sirientas. Also can't remember but again none for me.

Unknown. The tout outside sirenitas walked me round to here on calle 67 not on map (I attached a screeshot of location) From outside and inside looks better than any other place but only 3 girls, two chubby one ok.

Julianas #1 - Like a dentist waiting room in here, fish tank and no couches. Can't remember line up but I know it wasn't good.

Acuarius. Maybe 5 girls, I think 2 OK.

Castillo spa. Exactly one girl and she wasn't great.

Place on map next to castillo spa. Exact same, 1 girl not great.

Masajas orientals. Only one women she looked OK but too old for me.

Between Carrera 21 and 23 on calle 67 some street walkers, one doable the rest were some of the worst looking prostitutes I've ever seen.

2nd time went early afternoon, again I forgot bits. This time all places had local guys hanging out in there drinking or chatting with girls.

Salome. The only place they were a bit pushy, instead of a line up 3 girls try to pull me into a room, one is ok. The tout blocks the doorway when I go to leave and tries to usher me back, he does move though.

Sirentas - 3 girls, one tall mixed race I kind of liked, can't remember others.

Unknown. Same place on the attached pic round corner from Sirentas, 2 girls but one I like, cute black girl with glasses from Venezuela. Prices here are 27 k 20 min, 32 k 30 min, 64 k hour. But everything is extra I suppose to be expected at those prices, BBBJ 35 k extra and I was going to proceed but even sucking her tits was extra when I asked so left. Water was 4 k in there.

Also went pussy house briefly one night about 11 pm, busy, beer 7 k, quality similar to Santa fe.

Zona t.

Came Saturday night, lots of good restaurants and normal bars. I went to VIP club near 10 pm, 10+ girls quality low honestly better ones in Santa Fe, maybe 2 other local guys sat in there. Instead of wondering about I get a tout outside to show me all the other spots, we go to what seems to be around red garden club on the map but he called it something else, 2 average girls no guys. Walk to Ibiza which think had just a few girls and no guys, none for me. I think we tried another I forget then finished at Olimpo, this had about 20 girls quality better than the rest by far so I stayed for one beer which said 35 k but was nearly 50 k after tax and service, weird atmosphere didn't feel like spending a night in here (In hindsight should of got some numbers for next day to skip getting ripped of in there), again no other guys here but as I left 2 locals arrive, this is about 10.30 pm.

Also checked the spas out around here one afternoon.

Colorin spa. Price is 200 k 1 hour and two poor girls, they must get zero business at those prices and looks.

Viva - 1 girl, OK and spoke English. Said 200 k for 1 hour, massage, BJ, 1 penetration, everything covered. Left.

Mantra spa. Told no sex its lingham massages ending with HJ so I didn't ask for a line up.

Sensity spa. Seemed to be closed?

Abadunai. No girls, an older women told me to go Abba Abasenity.

Abba abasenity - 3 girls best quality of the places in this area. I was keen on one but mezzanines are better value and similar looks so just went back there.

Tinder.

Matched with maybe 20-30% of what I would in Africa, quality of girls is high though. I wasn't here long enough to work on semi pro options but got some numbers of pros but didn't bother messaging in the end as I had a Seeking date arranged at that point.

Seeking.

Quality also high, I set this up late so just met one girl on my final day, she said she meets for dinner company for $50, I said I do drinks then back to my hotel for couple hours at 200 k + taxi, she was happy with that. I'm not targeting the stunners though, cute girl but I reckon I could of got away with less. She was the best shag of my time in Bogota, I prefer more unrushed time with a semi pro so will mainly use this for the rest of my trip.

Miscellaneous.

Stayed at hotel San Francisco, $25 a night, good hotel, free breakfast. I would ask for a room at the back not facing the main road, will be quieter and then don't have the sun coming through in the morning. I always walked or used uber, mainly so I can pay by card and don't have to explain where I'm going in my non existent Spanish. 6/7 k to Chapinero from my hotel or 11/13 k to north Bogota.

I read that to walk around safely you need to be in North Bogota, I don't agree with that, the area around the Ibis feels super safe, lots of upmarket restaurants, bars and families walking around at night.

MtVadose
01-07-20, 17:47
Forgot to add the screenshot of the other casa.

DeepXliv
01-07-20, 18:47
I joined Bodycare Gym on Calle 45 which is a 30 minute walk straight up Caracas from Santa Fe, or a 19 minute Transmilenio ride from the same, literally outside La Piscina.

It's an old school gym with most machines and free weights, more than enough for a solid session. And some bonus weird flashbacks from the 70's and 80's like the vibrating belt machine!

The offer is $70 K for a month but they may do a deal for a little less. One of the best investments I made was joining that gym and every second or third day smashing out a session before grabbing some lunch and an afternoon stroll up to the massages close by.

Another option much closer by is the Mac Gym 10 minutes walk to Calle 30.

It looks really old school in some photos I've seen but their facebook shows some more modern equipment.

I'm not sure how much it is, wander in and ask.Okay thanks I'll check it out.

DeepXliv
01-07-20, 18:48
Got to thank World travel 69 and anyone who contributes to the maps, makes life so easy, I used them to find everything. My plan was to try a bit of everything in my short time in Bogota.

Mezzanines.

First time went early afternoon, when you go up the stairs, mezzanine 8 on its own to the right 4 girls just sat in there. Left at the top of the stairs takes you to the other 4 or 5? When you walk round the corner they all come to the doors to meet you and get your attention maybe 3/4 from each door, a few looked good. One in the second door really stood out to me so I went with her. 100 k 1 hour, brief massage with teasing, B2B, then CBJ and sex, basic service one pop so wasn't there long being my first of the trip. Nowhere to wash, so the girl uses a water spray and paper towel to clean before getting changed, so hygiene is suspect in there.

Went another time late afternoon and think choose third door, 80 k 1 hour in this one. Same service as last time but had more fun with this one. We used the rooms in the last mezzanine, they have more space in there.

Santa Fe.

Didn't feel as dangerous as it was made out to be. I'd say the majority of girls look poor here, 90% you couldn't pay me to shag but there are some surprisingly great looking ones around in an amongst all that. My problem was when I decided it was time to room later on say 10 pm they had gone, I think early evening is best? So I settled for a girl I wasn't 100% on, small Venezuelan girl 35 k for 20 minutes and she was far too restricting and I'm easily put off so I went soft and called it a day. 20 k for a dance in paisas and definitely got my monies worth, long and everything goes. Drinks 6/7 k. You can easily hang out here alone without issue but I took Woodman's tour one night if anything to pick his brain on Bogota and Colombia. It was a good night out and he is a wealth of information on Bogota.

Chapinero.

First was here between 11 am-12 on a Saturday, easy to find the casas always one or a couple guys outside to direct you in, they ring a bell and the girls all come and introduce themselves. I wrote these notes shortly after but forgot a bit. At this time most places had zero other guys in.

Palmares real - 2 girls avaliable, chubby and not hot to me at all.

Casa Verde. About 10 girls, nearly all small / slim types. Maybe a couple ok but I'm very picky.

La bonita spa. Can't remember but none for me.

Sirientas. Also can't remember but again none for me.

Unknown. The tout outside sirenitas walked me round to here on calle 67 not on map (I attached a screeshot of location) From outside and inside looks better than any other place but only 3 girls, two chubby one ok.

Julianas #1 - Like a dentist waiting room in here, fish tank and no couches. Can't remember line up but I know it wasn't good.

Acuarius. Maybe 5 girls, I think 2 OK.

Castillo spa. Exactly one girl and she wasn't great.

Place on map next to castillo spa. Exact same, 1 girl not great.

Masajas orientals. Only one women she looked OK but too old for me.

Between Carrera 21 and 23 on calle 67 some street walkers, one doable the rest were some of the worst looking prostitutes I've ever seen.

2nd time went early afternoon, again I forgot bits. This time all places had local guys hanging out in there drinking or chatting with girls.

Salome. The only place they were a bit pushy, instead of a line up 3 girls try to pull me into a room, one is ok. The tout blocks the doorway when I go to leave and tries to usher me back, he does move though.

Sirentas - 3 girls, one tall mixed race I kind of liked, can't remember others.

Unknown. Same place on the attached pic round corner from Sirentas, 2 girls but one I like, cute black girl with glasses from Venezuela. Prices here are 27 k 20 min, 32 k 30 min, 64 k hour. But everything is extra I suppose to be expected at those prices, BBBJ 35 k extra and I was going to proceed but even sucking her tits was extra when I asked so left. Water was 4 k in there.

Also went pussy house briefly one night about 11 pm, busy, beer 7 k, quality similar to Santa fe.

Zona t.

Came Saturday night, lots of good restaurants and normal bars. I went to VIP club near 10 pm, 10+ girls quality low honestly better ones in Santa Fe, maybe 2 other local guys sat in there. Instead of wondering about I get a tout outside to show me all the other spots, we go to what seems to be around red garden club on the map but he called it something else, 2 average girls no guys. Walk to Ibiza which think had just a few girls and no guys, none for me. I think we tried another I forget then finished at Olimpo, this had about 20 girls quality better than the rest by far so I stayed for one beer which said 35 k but was nearly 50 k after tax and service, weird atmosphere didn't feel like spending a night in here (In hindsight should of got some numbers for next day to skip getting ripped of in there), again no other guys here but as I left 2 locals arrive, this is about 10.30 pm.

Also checked the spas out around here one afternoon.

Colorin spa. Price is 200 k 1 hour and two poor girls, they must get zero business at those prices and looks.

Viva - 1 girl, OK and spoke English. Said 200 k for 1 hour, massage, BJ, 1 penetration, everything covered. Left.

Mantra spa. Told no sex its lingham massages ending with HJ so I didn't ask for a line up.

Sensity spa. Seemed to be closed?

Abadunai. No girls, an older women told me to go Abba Abasenity.

Abba abasenity - 3 girls best quality of the places in this area. I was keen on one but mezzanines are better value and similar looks so just went back there.

Tinder.

Matched with maybe 20-30% of what I would in Africa, quality of girls is high though. I wasn't here long enough to work on semi pro options but got some numbers of pros but didn't bother messaging in the end as I had a Seeking date arranged at that point.

Seeking.

Quality also high, I set this up late so just met one girl on my final day, she said she meets for dinner company for $50, I said I do drinks then back to my hotel for couple hours at 200 k + taxi, she was happy with that. I'm not targeting the stunners though, cute girl but I reckon I could of got away with less. She was the best shag of my time in Bogota, I prefer more unrushed time with a semi pro so will mainly use this for the rest of my trip.

Miscellaneous.

Stayed at hotel San Francisco, $25 a night, good hotel, free breakfast. I would ask for a room at the back not facing the main road, will be quieter and then don't have the sun coming through in the morning. I always walked or used uber, mainly so I can pay by card and don't have to explain where I'm going in my non existent Spanish. 6/7 k to Chapinero from my hotel or 11/13 k to north Bogota.

I read that to walk around safely you need to be in North Bogota, I don't agree with that, the area around the Ibis feels super safe, lots of upmarket restaurants, bars and families walking around at night.Fantastic report, heading there next week so should be helpful.

Mr Enternational
01-07-20, 21:16
Stayed at hotel San Francisco, $25 a night, good hotel, free breakfast.Great report. Any idea of the guest policy at San Francisco?

Elvis 2008
01-07-20, 21:22
Anytime Fitness just opened up a 24 hour gym and it is close to Ibis, about a 20 minute walk. I have membership in the USA And pay $40 or so per month here. They have locations all over the world.


Hi are there any good gyms near santa fe or ibis? Something in walking distance. Any idea on cost?

MtVadose
01-07-20, 22:29
Great report. Any idea of the guest policy at San Francisco?I never checked what the policy was, I only brought one girl back, the one from SA and they just took a photocopy of her ID.

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Ryck II
01-08-20, 02:47
RyckII,

You: "Years ago it was rather common for people to get kidnapped and robbed by taxi drivers. This stopped. ".

ME: "Members often post hearsay from 40 years ago, and others read it thinking it's relevant today and true".

Ain't nobody gunna get mugged by a taxi driver in 2020. It's a myth.

La Tunda on the other hand, that's real shit! Tener cuidado.It still happens, and it does happen quite a lot, just google atraco in taxi and you will see. I'd agree that is not as dangerous as it used to be but petty crime in the streets, in buses, in taxis, in restaurants DOES happen. Check the news.

DeepXliv
01-09-20, 18:52
Oh fml I'm here messaging girls today in preparation for next week and I get kicked out of WhatsApp. I try logging back on and it says my number is banned LOL. Man what a waste of all those hours.

KangarooTed
01-09-20, 21:12
Man what a waste of all those hours.Imagine all those hours you have saved from sitting in your hotel room trawling the internet and waiting for dates that never turn up when you can just walk outside and find a girl in real life.

LeyenLouvain
01-09-20, 22:13
Oh fml I'm here messaging girls today in preparation for next week and I get kicked out of WhatsApp. I try logging back on and it says my number is banned LOL. Man what a waste of all those hours.That's worrying. Being owned by FB, who knows what matching up of FB accounts and WA accounts they are doing, and how seriously they are enforcing the no fake FB account rule.

LeyenLouvain
01-09-20, 22:15
Got to thank World travel 69 and anyone who contributes to the maps, makes life so easy, I used them to find everything. My plan was to try a bit of everything in my short time in Bogota.
And thanks to you for this excellent report which largely takes away the need to RTFT.

LeyenLouvain
01-09-20, 22:20
Then there was my old roommate. Couldn't get laid if he crawled up a hen's ass. My girlfriend used to bring girls over for him. Each time the girl was stuck there for the night. He never even managed to get a kiss from one of them. I am the same haha but enjoying learning from this forum about pulling non pros.

Thank God though that it's possible to get laid cheaply in Colombia.

IronQuinn
01-09-20, 23:16
Oh fml I'm here messaging girls today in preparation for next week and I get kicked out of WhatsApp. I try logging back on and it says my number is banned LOL. Man what a waste of all those hours.The up side is you don't need it. I don't know why anyone would bother with that app or any other like it when you can literally walk down the street and choose from more girls than you could possibly handle.

DeepXliv
01-10-20, 00:14
The up side is you don't need it. I don't know why anyone would bother with that app or any other like it when you can literally walk down the street and choose from more girls than you could possibly handle.I took my preworkout late, and wasn't able to sleep LOL, I feel like I got some solid negotiation practices down haha idk I learned first hand it's not worth it.

DeepXliv
01-10-20, 00:15
The up side is you don't need it. I don't know why anyone would bother with that app or any other like it when you can literally walk down the street and choose from more girls than you could possibly handle.Hold up I definitely need whatsapp, I much much prefer GFE and having a girl come to my place and I need a way to communicate with her if I want to call her over for a repeat.

Woodman09
01-10-20, 00:55
The up side is you don't need it. I don't know why anyone would bother with that app or any other like it when you can literally walk down the street and choose from more girls than you could possibly handle.That is what I'm talking about! WhatsAp is still essential as you can make your contacts in person do a a Quickee trial and than you know if you want to spend 2 hours+ with a girl. I have so many hot hooker girlfriend on the street and clubs that I have to avoid them a bit as there are always new ones. LOL, sometimes I will give a girl a consolation 2 mil because I feel bad.

I have been in SF quite a bit last week or so. It was not so great, but still good as DeepXliv mentioned in the long report below, I went a couple nights ago and it was off the hook. Things seem to be coming back well.

Mr Enternational
01-10-20, 01:06
Hold up I definitely need whatsapp, I much much prefer GFE and having a girl come to my place and I need a way to communicate with her if I want to call her over for a repeat.That is what left a bad taste in my mouth about Cuba. I am used to being able to communicate with hoes and make arrangements. You got to be calling chicks from payphones and shit like the 70's.

DeepXliv
01-11-20, 05:33
That is what left a bad taste in my mouth about Cuba. I am used to being able to communicate with hoes and make arrangements. You got to be calling chicks from payphones and shit like the 70's.Oh damn, Cuba is on the back burner for me than, at least until I learn Spanish.

Tasss
01-11-20, 06:25
Last time I came to Bogota I took a trip up to Chapinero and was disappointed in what I saw. This time I gave it another try. I started off at El Padrino, and went north up to Calle 86 a. Lalo's appears to be closed. Anyways, the gist of these clubs appear to be that you get to sit down and talk with the girls, since they're supposed to be more educated. But for someone who doesn't speak Spanish, I'm not really sure if there's any real appeal. OK so they're in a safer area than SF, but the girls weren't that much better than the ones you'd find in SF, which confirmed what I saw last time. On the other hand, they're charging 3 x-4 x the price.

In Medellin there's Fase Dos, which is a higher end strip club. I thought at least one of the clubs in Chapinero was going to be like this, but I didn't find one. The ones I poked my head in were just full of girls lounging around, not doing anything. So given that I can't do anything but a Google Translate conversation with the girls, and that I'm comfortable with SF, these clubs seem to offer little value to someone who's in a similar situation as me.

Jicks
01-12-20, 07:20
https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/uber-to-exit-colombia-on-jan-31-after-court-ruling-2057106

KangarooTed
01-12-20, 09:41
https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/uber-to-exit-colombia-on-jan-31-after-court-ruling-2057106Oh no! Now everybody going to get mugged by taxis everyday.

For those who think that's a possibility RTTF.

Not one member been mugged by a taxi since before records of 523 pages. Not one member's friend. Not one member's friend of a friend.

Catch a taxi.

Questner
01-12-20, 22:53
There is fun of Santa Fe at 80 K and boredom of so called higher end in the north at 800 K and seemingly nothing in between. Fun and quality in the 150-250 K range, let me know.

Elvis 2008
01-13-20, 00:01
OK so they're in a safer area than SF, but the girls weren't that much better than the ones you'd find in SF, which confirmed what I saw last time. On the other hand, they're charging 3 x-4 x the price.

In Medellin there's Fase Dos, which is a higher end strip club. I thought at least one of the clubs in Chapinero was going to be like this, but I didn't find one. The ones I poked my head in were just full of girls lounging around, not doing anything. So given that I can't do anything but a Google Translate conversation with the girls, and that I'm comfortable with SF, these clubs seem to offer little value to someone who's in a similar situation as me.Good post, Tasss. I did takeout in the higher end clubs a long time ago and was underwhelmed. Even Face Dos in my opinion was not that great of a value. When I went to SF, the two strippers I took back to my hotel were miles better and way cheaper than those high end clubs. One admitted to me that she was a pothead, and the other seem to dabble in the white powder, so they may have been fine bed companions but maybe not great dinner companions.

Thing is that is where seeking arrangement or seeking came in. That is where I found the smarter, fresh faced, less jaded university type women or women with real jobs who were great both in and out of the bed room. Even to this day, I have six women from my two trips that respond promptly to my texts or text me and say, "When are you coming back to Colombia?" They are nicer, better looking, way better in the sack, and more responsive to my texts than any SBs I have had in the states. I pay them maybe $80 to 100 per day, get them a nice meal, maybe take them shopping, and I get as many shots on goal in a day as I can handle.

I don't really like Bogota that much due to the weather, altitude, and pollution, but sex wise, I don't want to bother with anywhere else. It is like I hold it for a while here in the states, fly in and have so much sex I am almost sick of it. Almost.

I guess I could try to build up a SB posse in another city but flights from Bogota to other cities are so cheap, I am not sure it is worth the trouble.

Elvis 2008
01-13-20, 00:06
I was looking at getting out and seeing Bogota a bit more. I have done the gold museum and was looking at doing a bike tour and food tour. Is there any other must things to do in Bogota from a tourist perspective?

DeepXliv
01-13-20, 04:39
I was looking at getting out and seeing Bogota a bit more. I have done the gold museum and was looking at doing a bike tour and food tour. Is there any other must things to do in Bogota from a tourist perspective?I think I'm going to do the cable car to Monserrate and the bike tour.

JjBee62
01-13-20, 04:57
I was looking at getting out and seeing Bogota a bit more. I have done the gold museum and was looking at doing a bike tour and food tour. Is there any other must things to do in Bogota from a tourist perspective?There's the Salt Cathedral and a train tour which goes there and to another Pueblo. Montserrat is also a nice way to spend a few hours.

Tasss
01-13-20, 06:12
Oh no! Now everybody going to get mugged by taxis everyday.

For those who think that's a possibility RTTF.

Not one member been mugged by a taxi since before records of 523 pages. Not one member's friend. Not one member's friend of a friend.

Catch a taxi.I haven't been mugged per-se by a taxi driver, but one in Medellin held my phone as ransom until I pleaded with him to get it back. He apparently misunderstood something and was trying to "protect" the girl who was riding along with me. Safety aside, Uber still has several advantages over taxis - 1. Uber drivers always has a GPS enabled phone that can look up the address you're going to. Taxi drivers sometimes are on dumb-phones. 2. Uber's fare is charged to your CC, just way more convenient than paying cash. When you only have 50 mil bills, they often can't give you change. 3. Bogota taxi fares are difficult to read without an app, which can potentially lead to cheating. Overcharging has happened once with me thus far but I knew the appropriate fare at that time.

The Chinese company DiDi also operates in CO, but I've never tried them outside of China. Looks like I might have to next time.

IronQuinn
01-13-20, 17:11
I haven't been mugged per-se by a taxi driver, but one in Medellin held my phone as ransom until I pleaded with him to get it back. He apparently misunderstood something and was trying to "protect" the girl who was riding along with me. Safety aside, Uber still has several advantages over taxis - 1. Uber drivers always has a GPS enabled phone that can look up the address you're going to. Taxi drivers sometimes are on dumb-phones. 2. Uber's fare is charged to your CC, just way more convenient than paying cash. When you only have 50 mil bills, they often can't give you change. 3. Bogota taxi fares are difficult to read without an app, which can potentially lead to cheating. Overcharging has happened once with me thus far but I knew the appropriate fare at that time.

The Chinese company DiDi also operates in CO, but I've never tried them outside of China. Looks like I might have to next time.I have to agree with KTed on this one. Whenever a new technology or option comes out, people feel they just have to use it. We're talking about getting from point A to be, it's not that complicated. Forget Uber, put away your phone, and hail down a cab. Tell him the address you're going to, or write it down if it makes you feel better. Get in the cab and go. And, if you can't speak basic Spanish, wait until you learn at least that much before coming to Colombia. As a side note, not to get on anyone's case, but if a person walks around Colombia with only 50 mil banknotes, they're a fool. When you go to the casa de cambio, always get a mix of bills. This is basic traveling.

JjBee62
01-13-20, 18:27
I have to agree with KTed on this one. Whenever a new technology or option comes out, people feel they just have to use it. We're talking about getting from point A to be, it's not that complicated. Forget Uber, put away your phone, and hail down a cab. Tell him the address you're going to, or write it down if it makes you feel better. Get in the cab and go. And, if you can't speak basic Spanish, wait until you learn at least that much before coming to Colombia. As a side note, not to get on anyone's case, but if a person walks around Colombia with only 50 mil banknotes, they're a fool. When you go to the casa de cambio, always get a mix of bills. This is basic traveling.Unless Uber bribes. I mean wins their appeal, the argument over whether or not they are better doesn't matter after this month.

The problem of only 50 k bills is easily solved. Go to the ATM and withdrawal cash. Walk into Carulla and buy a bottle of water. Walk into a restaurant and buy lunch. Each time pay with 50 k notes. Whenever you buy anything, use a 50 k note. After 2 days you'll have enough small bills to last for a week.

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01-14-20, 03:31
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Kib123
01-14-20, 05:07
I have to agree with KTed on this one. Whenever a new technology or option comes out, people feel they just have to use it. We're talking about getting from point A to be, it's not that complicated. Forget Uber, put away your phone, and hail down a cab. Tell him the address you're going to, or write it down if it makes you feel better. Get in the cab and go. And, if you can't speak basic Spanish, wait until you learn at least that much before coming to Colombia. As a side note, not to get on anyone's case, but if a person walks around Colombia with only 50 mil banknotes, they're a fool. When you go to the casa de cambio, always get a mix of bills. This is basic traveling.IQ, I don't get your point at all. We should ignore technology that makes our life easier to what end exactly?

Kib123
01-14-20, 05:51
Had a blast as expected.

Photopregagos: had three ladies, and all were solid quality GFE. Prices varied from 120 - 200 k, including upsells. The best way to improve your odds is to search for candid reviews on foroprepagoscolombia using listed phone number. I found the forum to be very helpful.

Tantras (Ajales) massage: went there three times. Selection was subpar all times, but on two occasions I got very good BBBJs. This place is recommended for that quick relief on the cheap with guaranteed BBBJ.

Mezzanine: My biggest surprise of the trip. Went three times, always a few hotties in lineup. The best experience by a big margin was here, with a young lady called Alicia. Always by the last door along the corridor. The lady performs at an exceptional level, way above the rest. Saw her twice. Top five of all time in my books. Anyone in Bogota go see her and report back. Damage is 80 k per session.

The massage parlors between Calle 73 and 100 in Chapinero are all ripoff joints in my opinion.

Princesitas massage, Carrera 15 #116-59, upstairs: Place is a bit pricey (140 K /45 min) and selection is thin, but went here three times as well. I like their rooms which are cleaner, with full size beds, not those stretchers you find elsewhere. So much more comfy than the other joints. Had good sessions with 2 spinners, a Carolina was good enough to repeat.

Street action: The selection on Calle 67 between Cr 20 and 22 was surprisingly robust on the early evening I walked by the place. There was one hottie I would have snapped if I didn't know better. Never had a satisfactory session with a street walker, ever.

Monserrate: Went on a clear, warm Sunday, but so did everybody else. The crowd was extreme, both for the rides and walking to the top. The walk to the top is refreshing, but don't do it on a Sunday.

Till later!

LaterMann
01-14-20, 10:05
Kib123, helpful report thanks. I've always found a good spinner at Mezzannie despite the cramped rooms so I'll checkout Princesitas. Too bad to hear that ZonaRosa places were subpar, any in particular? Last year I hit Colorin a few times and was quite happy with the spinners there.

Ryck II
01-14-20, 13:00
I was looking at getting out and seeing Bogota a bit more. I have done the gold museum and was looking at doing a bike tour and food tour. Is there any other must things to do in Bogota from a tourist perspective?There are other museums worth visiting. Botero museum in "la cancelaria" is very nice and free. Around Bogota you can visit "el dorado lake" it is a small lake that according to the legend it was used by cacique (tribe leader) for a ceremonial ritual in which he would dip all covered in gold. Is about an hour north and there is a nice hike with a guide available in english. In the south there is a nice water fall call "el salto del tequendama" just a nice view.

Ryck II
01-14-20, 13:04
Had a blast as expected.

Photopregagos: had three ladies, and all were solid quality GFE. Prices varied from 120 - 200 k, including upsells. The best way to improve your odds is to search for candid reviews on foroprepagoscolombia using listed phone number. I found the forum to be very helpful.

Tantras (Ajales) massage: went there three times. Selection was subpar all times, but on two occasions I got very good BBBJs. This place is recommended for that quick relief on the cheap with guaranteed BBBJ.

Mezzanine: My biggest surprise of the trip. Went three times, always a few hotties in lineup. The best experience by a big margin was here, with a young lady called Alicia. Always by the last door along the corridor. The lady performs at an exceptional level, way above the rest. Saw her twice. Top five of all time in my books. Anyone in Bogota go see her and report back. Damage is 80 k per session.

The massage parlors between Calle 73 and 100 in Chapinero are all ripoff joints in my opinion.

Princesitas massage, Carrera 15 #116-59, upstairs: Place is a bit pricey (140 K /45 min) and selection is thin, but went here three times as well. I like their rooms which are cleaner, with full size beds, not those stretchers you find elsewhere. So much more comfy than the other joints. Had good sessions with 2 spinners, a Carolina was good enough to repeat.

Street action: The selection on Calle 67 between Cr 20 and 22 was surprisingly robust on the early evening I walked by the place. There was one hottie I would have snapped if I didn't know better. Never had a satisfactory session with a street walker, ever.

Monserrate: Went on a clear, warm Sunday, but so did everybody else. The crowd was extreme, both for the rides and walking to the top. The walk to the top is refreshing, but don't do it on a Sunday.

Till later!Alicia in the mezzanines is great. I have been with her several times and she is very engaged in sex. She is kind of a nympho once she starts fucking she gets immersed an enjoys gets very wet and reaches orgasms. Once I stopped to check the condom and she was like why the fuck did you stop! I was coming. She did BBBJ on me for 50 k more a bit much but it was worth it.

Ryck II
01-14-20, 13:07
Had a blast as expected.

Photopregagos: had three ladies, and all were solid quality GFE. Prices varied from 120 - 200 k, including upsells. The best way to improve your odds is to search for candid reviews on foroprepagoscolombia using listed phone number. I found the forum to be very helpful.

Tantras (Ajales) massage: went there three times. Selection was subpar all times, but on two occasions I got very good BBBJs. This place is recommended for that quick relief on the cheap with guaranteed BBBJ.

Mezzanine: My biggest surprise of the trip. Went three times, always a few hotties in lineup. The best experience by a big margin was here, with a young lady called Alicia. Always by the last door along the corridor. The lady performs at an exceptional level, way above the rest. Saw her twice. Top five of all time in my books. Anyone in Bogota go see her and report back. Damage is 80 k per session.

The massage parlors between Calle 73 and 100 in Chapinero are all ripoff joints in my opinion.

Princesitas massage, Carrera 15 #116-59, upstairs: Place is a bit pricey (140 K /45 min) and selection is thin, but went here three times as well. I like their rooms which are cleaner, with full size beds, not those stretchers you find elsewhere. So much more comfy than the other joints. Had good sessions with 2 spinners, a Carolina was good enough to repeat.

Street action: The selection on Calle 67 between Cr 20 and 22 was surprisingly robust on the early evening I walked by the place. There was one hottie I would have snapped if I didn't know better. Never had a satisfactory session with a street walker, ever.

Monserrate: Went on a clear, warm Sunday, but so did everybody else. The crowd was extreme, both for the rides and walking to the top. The walk to the top is refreshing, but don't do it on a Sunday.

Till later!Any chance you can share the names of the photoprepagos girls? General opinion on that website is that is a hit and miss. Having names would improve chances of a god time.

IronQuinn
01-14-20, 16:44
IQ, I don't get your point at all. We should ignore technology that makes our life easier to what end exactly?It's a lot easier for me to hail a cab and take 15 seconds to tell the guy where I'm going and pay him a little cash. I was pointing out the ridiculousness of having to use a phone AND a credit card just to pay for a simple ride. The more a person uses technology as a crutch, the more common sense they lose. Keep it straightforward. I don't even bring a phone when I travel. I like to explore on my own, and talk to the locals for info, rather than following a digital map and looking things up. It's amazing how you can build a street network that way. I've done it in many countries. But, I suppose that's the difference between a traveler and a tourist.

Mr Enternational
01-14-20, 17:21
It's a lot easier for me to hail a cab and take 15 seconds to tell the guy where I'm going and pay him a little cash.Not in rush hour when the taxis are full. To me it was much easier to click that app then head downstairs when the car is arriving at my doorstep. Then no need to have money, not to mention correct change. Plus I get the points on my credit card.

Kib123
01-15-20, 04:28
Alicia in the mezzanines is great. I have been with her several times and she is very engaged in sex. She is kind of a nympho once she starts fucking she gets immersed an enjoys gets very wet and reaches orgasms. Once I stopped to check the condom and she was like why the fuck did you stop! I was coming. She did BBBJ on me for 50 k more a bit much but it was worth it.Yes she's a wild one. Her BJ skill is worth the upsell in my books. She was planning to pay me a visit but work got in my way.

Kib123
01-15-20, 04:34
Any chance you can share the names of the photoprepagos girls? General opinion on that website is that is a hit and miss. Having names would improve chances of a god time.Try Jessica https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/chapinero/me-encanta-el-sexo-oral-y-todas-las-posiciones-asi-que-ven-para-que-las-hagamos-juntos-id-3vgey . Talks a lot, but solid GFE with no upsell (120 k she comes to you for the hour).

Kib123
01-15-20, 04:55
Any chance you can share the names of the photoprepagos girls? General opinion on that website is that is a hit and miss. Having names would improve chances of a god time.Try Angelica as well https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/barrios-unidos/soy-una-hermosa-prepago-dispuesta-hacer-todo-para-complacerte-id-swgqc. Another solid GFE, but a bit pricey (180 k for outcall including taxi). Her pics with dyed hair are recent. Nice tits, and really gets into it.

HumanBeing1
01-15-20, 06:28
https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/uber-to-exit-colombia-on-jan-31-after-court-ruling-2057106That is awful news. So easy to get around Colombia with uber. Super cheap and nicer cars than cabs. This hurts.

BigButtDetecto
01-15-20, 17:24
Last time I came to Bogota I took a trip up to Chapinero and was disappointed in what I saw. This time I gave it another try. I started off at El Padrino, and went north up to Calle 86 a. Lalo's appears to be closed. Anyways, the gist of these clubs appear to be that you get to sit down and talk with the girls, since they're supposed to be more educated. But for someone who doesn't speak Spanish, I'm not really sure if there's any real appeal. OK so they're in a safer area than SF, but the girls weren't that much better than the ones you'd find in SF, which confirmed what I saw last time. On the other hand, they're charging 3 x-4 x the price.

In Medellin there's Fase Dos, which is a higher end strip club. I thought at least one of the clubs in Chapinero was going to be like this, but I didn't find one. The ones I poked my head in were just full of girls lounging around, not doing anything. So given that I can't do anything but a Google Translate conversation with the girls, and that I'm comfortable with SF, these clubs seem to offer little value to someone who's in a similar situation as me.I totally agree compared to Santa Fe the other areas are either overpriced or bad quality.

ILuvThePussy
01-15-20, 21:11
That is awful news. So easy to get around Colombia with uber. Super cheap and nicer cars than cabs. This hurts.Yep, I loved ordering an uber in my airbnb with the exact location. I needed to be in and the exact money to be charged. No change, didn't have to carry smaller bills, didn't have to worry about being scammed, no confusion on where to go, AND it wad usually cheaper than the taxis. Maybe the drivers will move on to lyft or some other app.

Elvis 2008
01-15-20, 23:21
I needed to be in and the exact money to be charged. No change, didn't have to carry smaller bills, didn't have to worry about being scammed, no confusion on where to go, AND it wad usually cheaper than the taxis. Maybe the drivers will move on to lyft or some other app.There was a taxi app my ex used in Lima. I think it was called easytaxi. Maybe someone hears knows of a taxi app that works well in Bogota.

John Clayton
01-15-20, 23:42
https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/uber-to-exit-colombia-on-jan-31-after-court-ruling-2057106I think the horse is out of the barn on ride sharing. They may have banned Uber, but...probably, the result will be many, new, completely unregulated, unresponsive mini-Ubers.

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01-16-20, 00:40
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LoveItHere69
01-16-20, 04:25
I think guys piss every half meter on every wall down the street. You can see the stains. The sidewalks are pretty tore up. If you wheeled your suitcase down the street I think you would lose a wheel after the 5th block.

The food thus far is really bad and I have low expectations. I found 5 Chinese places and the 2 I tried were just OK. I was excited to find 5 Mexican places to eat in the University area at the base of Monserrate (church on the hill). 4 were closed closed. The only one still in business only had 3 items on menu. I ate the burrito there twice now. Anyone know where to get Mexican tacos, burritos, etc within walking distance (I can walk far)? PM me. Much appreciated. Pretty good shawarma place just open 2 days ago on Carrera 16 next to Paisa Club (less than 2 blocks away from me).

The nearest Exito, Ara, and Justo Bueno to Santa Fe have less stuff than the stores I saw in Cucuta.

Some guy noticed me asking with my phone translator about the hotel he was staying at. Says he worked in New York for a few years. Don't know don't care. So since he supposedly visited the USA And speaks English we are friends now. He yells out "Hey Friend" when I pass by. First day he asks me about doing drugs and drinking with him. I told him I do not do drugs, drink very little because I find trouble very easily without those things, and I did not come to Santa Fe to drink with guys on the street on a Friday night. Hate the guy 3 days later when he pulled that Super Dick move of calling a girl passing by but not to talk to him but for me. She was embarrassed and I was beyond pissed off. I told him he was an idiot and walked away.

Staying at Sante Fe Suites (corner Calle 22 A and Carrera 16). Run down but wanted to be in the middle of it all. Rooms are cold because no heat in all the hotels in the immediate area as far as I can tell. The building in like a donut where the center is same temperature as outside. 30,000 room 15,000 chicka fee. I paid 50,000 the first 2 nights because Agoda's price was higher. Many times the online price was cheaper in other places I have been.

Hotel Nuevo Sante Fe (Calle 22) run down. Run by guys versus the one I am at is run by females with a mother daughter duo so feel safer there. Also this is the place that the loser guy I mentioned stays at. 35,000. Chicka fee unknown.

Troya Hotel (Carrera 16) nearly across the street. Little better with stove top and refrigerator. 50,000 but a hefty 40,000 chica fee.

Residencias Villa Real (Calle 23) appears to be the most popular ST hotel. Small not sure any place to even put my suitcase down. 30,000 and 20,000 chicka fee.

Further up Carrera 16 is Hospedaje Encanto's on the left near the end of the street. Very quiet. They have a sauna for 4000. Rooms were ok. Went to check in but could not until 6 pm. I was like WTF? Finally explained to me they rent in 12 hour increments. 25,000 for 12 hours No chickas allowed.

Right next door is Costa Dorado. Pretty nice and I believe very quiet. 70,000 No chicas allowed.

Hotel Normandia (Carrera 15 near Santa Fe Suites but 1 street over). Room is OK. 30,000 No chicas allowed. Update! Saw street girls outside Normandia and they allow chicas. Wonder why the person said no days ago when I asked.

Other side of Avenida Caracas. This area has more restaurants, nicer hotels, and more shopping but seems like it would be more dangerous at night than the Street Girl Scene that I am at because so many empty buildings.

Europa. Just OK. Not worth the location and not compared to Oceania a block away. 70,000 and 25,000 chica fee.

Oceania rooms looked great online. Entrance / foyer area much nicer than Europa for near the same price. 76,000. 57,000 chica fee.

I got really high today for free at Monserrate (church on the hill). It is walking distance away. I took the free hike (1. 5 hours) at 8:00 am Wednesday. Many sites said to be careful of thieves on the trail but there were police in 6 different spots along the trail and someone was always within sight and many people listening to their phones. Google Maps had a "Street View" and actually had someone walk up the trail with one of their cameras. I bet they have a map on how to get to my GF's pussy and how long it takes to get there! Scary shit what they have mapped out. Then think about what your government has!

Elevations.

1500 meters Medellin.

1730 meters Denver.

2640 meters Bogota.

3150 meters Monserrate.

Once down my face looked red and weathered and I was outside a restaurant reading their menu. The waitress came out an spoke to another guy reading the menu. Se looked me up and down like I was a homeless person. So funny.

The Ara store in the University's Student Center had a 700 ML irish cream whiskey 14% alcohol for 28,000 ($10) and it is good! Brand: Broadway.

My main * complaint is it is sooo cold. There are only 5 hours of 60-65 degree weather. It makes me not want to venture out. Nights are mid 40's. I am used to shorts and sandals. So strange that I have seen more guys wearing shorts in this cold ass place in 2 days than I did in Cucuta in 2 months and it is 80-90 degrees there. If it was raining I would have left already because then it would be nail biting cold. Oops. It has warmed up the last few days a bit. Today being the hottest when I took the small hike up the mountain. My face looks like a damn lobster! I had shorts and 3 shirts. Tried going slow to not sweat. Hike took me 1. 5 hours but easily done in 1 hour if I had taken off 2 of the 3 shirts. Some rocks are slippery on the way down. If it had rained I would have taken the funicular or cable car down as to not bust my ass on the way down. I love fucking with people so at the top I approached 3 different people with my phone translator, "I think I am lost. Where is the Mall?" The last person pointed down at the city and we were next to the church and the trail so I started walking down. The lady must of thought I was stupid.

I am not easily impressed, shocked, etc. But these women baring so much skin at these temperatures is utterly amazing! Some of their attire is simply wonderful because it is barely there. I saw 5 girls the first night that I would be happy to sleep with. I think any guy who can't find someone to their liking is blind and rather stupid really. It takes me 3 days to get into the groove of things but this place will take me a bit longer.

Cucuta was so hot that laundromats were very few because people did not need them. I see one about every 2 blocks in the Street Girl area of Sante Fe. I am staying 27 days and I can only turn my underwear inside out and spray with perfume so many times before I have to break down and wash them. I am doing my part to save the environment. You understand.

Only been with 4 girls. One a day and skipped a day. Can not say much on that front as of yet.

Refuse to go into any of the Girlie Bars. I walked into the middle of the street to avoid them and those guys followed me out there pointing at their bar to come inside. If they are that annoying outside just wait until the waitresses and dancers get their turn. Just can not deal with that.

Off topic * complaint of mine. Talking to a guy and he mentioned Sport F'ing. I said an ex-buddy of mine did that. That is when you penetrate the girl and do everything but cum. Then brag you were with 3 girls last night. That is like telling me you drank 3 bottles of rum but you never swallowed. That is retarded! That is like eating a steak and lobster dinner and not swallowing. Why on earth would you do that?

Having problems logging in last trip and this trip so when I do not reply to your flames you know why.

DeepXliv
01-16-20, 08:54
Thanks for all the people posting, it's definitely helped prep for the trip.

I don't know how many times I tell my self I'm done with early morning flights and next you know, my cheap ass can't get over the rates and I booked the worst flight. I'm up at 4:30 am to head to the airport, arrive without any issues around noon. I'm beyond tired but hungry so I go for a little walk and stop and get some food. I thought about hitting the day casas but I needed a nap and a shower so I went back to my apartment and passed out. What was supposed to be an hour power nap turned into 3 hours LOL. I take my shower and head out, I'm making my walk to check out day cases and I stop for some food and realize their all closed. I got a text from Tantra but they closed in like 30 minutes and I didn't want to be rushed. So after eating I just continued walking, I was waiting to hear back from another member and decided I could spend my time waiting in Pussy House.

That was a great decision. I know there is much better value and that's the reason to come to Bogota but I had this girl with me from 9:30-1:30 chilling with me without any issues, she was 22, no kids, perfect smile, fat ass paisa. She was dancing with me, on me, and we talked via translate for a long time. She was cool. Damage was 160.000 plus like 3 coronas. She was definite GFE with me and chilled with me for an hour after having sex talking, knowing I didn't have any more money to give.

Didn't end up meeting with the other member tonight but I had a great night regardless. I'll check out Santa Fe tomorrow.

Tasss
01-16-20, 10:57
I found these strata maps from the city government to be pretty interesting. The higher the strata the higher the socio-economic class http://www.sdp.gov.co/gestion-estudios-estrategicos/estratificacion/estratificacion-por-localidad.

One of the SF girls I met, amazingly beautiful, mentioned to me she came from Ciudad Bolivar. I hadn't heard of that before I met her which triggered my curiosity.

JjBee62
01-16-20, 14:38
There was a taxi app my ex used in Lima. I think it was called easytaxi. Maybe someone hears knows of a taxi app that works well in Bogota.EasyTaxi and Tappsi both work.

Turgid
01-17-20, 00:24
........................Off topic * complaint of mine. Talking to a guy and he mentioned Sport F'ing. I said an ex-buddy of mine did that. That is when you penetrate the girl and do everything but cum. Then brag you were with 3 girls last night. That is like telling me you drank 3 bottles of rum but you never swallowed. That is retarded! That is like eating a steak and lobster dinner and not swallowing. Why on earth would you do that?........If you f'ked a girl for 1 hour but did not cum can you say you had sex with that girl? Is she a notch on your bedpost?

JonSnow1
01-17-20, 00:48
Staying at Sante Fe Suites (corner Calle 22 A and Carrera 16). Run down but wanted to be in the middle of it all. Rooms are cold because no heat in all the hotels in the immediate area as far as I can tell. The building in like a donut where the center is same temperature as outside. 30,000 room 15,000 chicka fee.

Troya Hotel (Carrera 16) nearly across the street. Little better with stove top and refrigerator. 50,000 but a hefty 40,000 chica fee.

Hotel Normandia (Carrera 15 near Santa Fe Suites but 1 street over). Room is OK. 30,000 No chicas allowed. Update! Saw street girls outside Normandia and they allow chicas. Wonder why the person said no days ago when I asked.Think you are being given gringo pricing. The chica fee at Santa Fe Suites, Hotel Troya and Hotel Normandia is 10,000. Have stayed at all 3 frequently. Normandia has the softest bed and never asked for my ID / passport copy. Santa Fe Suites was bought out by new owners several months ago and they are slowly trying to upgrade their hotel. Most girls preferred Hotel Troya, it was seen as slightly better quality.

Protip: If you stay overnight at any of these hotels, always pack a pair of flipflops. Use them in the shower or to walk around the room.

Va Steve
01-17-20, 02:41
"I'm here for you. " Her statement pretty much describes her attitude. Cristina has my favorite slender body type and is very pretty. She provided a totally erotic service first, then we went out for a nice dinner, and returned to my hotel. I usually don't expect much in after dinner activities, but she pushed me beyond my usual sexual capabilities. In addition, she is very cool and speaks good English. The best encounter I've had in a long time!

https://lacelestina.co/en/escorts-prepagos-modelos-Bogota-cristina

Anthony2012
01-17-20, 03:24
Another quick update on first time in Bogota: Went back to Abadubai Spa. Once again, gorgeous girls. Four girls at 11 am. Made my selection, then asked about BBBJ. She offered me a beverage (water), then got down to business. Top notch session for one hour including DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and covered full service for total of 240 k. Enthusiasm for DATY seemed completely legit. She was even instructing me on how hard, etc. Still had about 10 min left after session, so she offered a fairly decent amateur massage, then I was given a towel, fresh slippers in plastic wrap, and a bag of shampoo, comb, q-tips, and led to a clean hot shower. Brought my wallet / phone with me, but left my clothes in the room. Came back to room and changed. Total visit was about 90 minutes. She then asked me if she could give me her number. All in all, very successful visit. I'm inclined to just keep going back until I run out of girls. I realize the price is higher than Santa Fe, but if you multiply 70 k /20 min price of Santa Fe club girl by 3, you get 210 k /60 min. And 240 k at Abadubai includes BBBJ and very nice clean safe surroundings. Excellent option for daytime. Apparently, they are open 9 a-9 p, so I may just go twice today!Where is Abadubai Spa located?

Routard
01-17-20, 13:25
If you f'ked a girl for 1 hour but did not cum can you say you had sex with that girl? Is she a notch on your bedpost?Haha! Bill Clinton said the same thing!

JjBee62
01-17-20, 18:34
If you f'ked a girl for 1 hour but did not cum can you say you had sex with that girl? Is she a notch on your bedpost?I tend to look at it the other way.

There was a Mexican girl I dated very briefly in San Diego. Second date ended up at my place and I just couldn't keep it up with her. I was probably 31, didn't have any excuses and she was doing everything right. Everything worked great right up to penetration time, then limp noodle syndrome. She'd suck me back to life, but same thing. That ended the dates with her. I count it as having sex even though I never finished or even accomplished satisfactory penetration.

If you're just counting orgasms, then masturbating is no different than fucking.

Funny thing about that girl. Ran into her at a party about a month later. She had a new boyfriend and they were getting married because she was pregnant. Did my dick keep me from falling into a trap?

KangarooTed
01-17-20, 22:40
Think you are being given gringo pricing. The chica fee at Santa Fe Suites, Hotel Troya and Hotel Normandia is 10,000. Agreed, in addition I've also stayed at Hotel Alcala on CL 22 why Cra 16, which I believe is 30,000, or 40,000 including the chica.

Opposite side of the road to the hotel can be a little sketch at 2 am if walking down that street, but in general it's an appropriately priced option to roll a few chicas through over the course of an evening or overnight.

Mr Enternational
01-18-20, 02:30
Funny thing about that girl. Ran into her at a party about a month later. She had a new boyfriend and they were getting married because she was pregnant. Did my dick keep me from falling into a trap?DNA tests don't fall for traps. If you saw her only a month later and she was already pregnant, then it was either yours or the guy before you. You might have dropped some of that limp dick precum in her.

JjBee62
01-18-20, 13:10
DNA tests don't fall for traps. If you saw her only a month later and she was already pregnant, then it was either yours or the guy before you. You might have dropped some of that limp dick precum in her.Yes, but they weren't as common almost 30 years ago. I'm guessing junior came from the guy who came before me. Since I didn't.

World Travel 69
01-18-20, 15:17
Carrera 12 a #77 a-25, piso 2. GPS 4. 66327, -74.056707.

6-9 Masajistas. Prices: 100 k massage, 180 k hour full sex.

Tel: 57 (1) 255 3455,649 5700.

Hours: Monday to Saturday 9:00 am to 9:00 am, Sunday 9 am to 9 pm.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Beauty-Salon/Abadubai-spa-1461868567458239/

https://www.prepagosx.co


Where is Abadubai Spa located?

FlowState985
01-18-20, 21:12
I just arrived in Bogota yesterday and had to take a long ass nap. I was so tired haha. Now, rested, I am looking to enjoy the city and the chicas, but would like a wingman to go with especially places like Santa Fe or at least someone to show me the rope for first couple days. The map is helpful for sure. I got map for middle and north Chapinero. Does anyone have map for Santa Fe?

LoveItHere69
01-19-20, 00:11
I count it as having sex even though I never finished or even accomplished satisfactory penetration.My guess is that if you shot the basketball and it rolled around the rim 3 times but fell out that you would count that too. Reminds me of my GF's sister who drove through New Orleans and said she had been to New Orleans but never tried the food, met anyone, or saw any touristy sights there. My bad, she stopped for gas. My guess is that if you actually did her and came that you would consider yourself a porn star based on such low standards.

That also reminds me of all the guys that if they get a girl's cell phone number they say they could have had the girl anytime even though: 1. They never texted the girl. 2. she never replied. 3. they never met again. 4. never did the deed. No wonder so many of you guys have such high numbers.

Turgid
01-19-20, 01:18
Haha! Bill Clinton said the same thing!Bill Clinton did not penetrate vaginally but got a blowjob and deposited a presidential map of Nebraska on Monica Lewinsky's blouse which she preserved for posterity. He was deemed to have had sex.

JjBee62
01-19-20, 02:36
My guess is that if you shot the basketball and it rolled around the rim 3 times but fell out that you would count that too. Reminds me of my GF's sister who drove through New Orleans and said she had been to New Orleans but never tried the food, met anyone, or saw any touristy sights there. My bad, she stopped for gas. My guess is that if you actually did her and came that you would consider yourself a porn star based on such low standards.

That also reminds me of all the guys that if they get a girl's cell phone number they say they could have had the girl anytime even though: 1. They never texted the girl. 2. she never replied. 3. they never met again. 4. never did the deed. No wonder so many of you guys have such high numbers.Nice try, but you completely missed the target.

By your definition, if you are with a girl 3 minutes, get your dick halfway in and blow your load, you've had an incredible sexual experience (and she came like 6 times and could barely walk. I totally destroyed that pussy). However, if someone spends 6 hours, making out, foreplay, oral sex, penetration, front and back door, but never shoots, he accomplished the same thing as a guy who sits down at a bar and says Hello, to the girl on the next bar stool.

It's a strange standard to only count orgasms.

When I was in the swinging scene with my ex, I typically had sex with 4-6 women every Saturday night. However, at best I would orgasm twice. My ex would get the first, and sometimes the last, depending on who were playing with. Now, if I'm 69 ing with 4 different women in a night, fucking with 4 women, in addition to my ex, but I only cum with my ex, I didn't really have sex with any of them. For that matter, if I have a threesome, switch girls 4 times, cum once, I never had a threesome, unless I start over again, repeat the whole thing and finish with the other girl. If I screw up and finish with the same girl 6 times, I've only fucked 1 girl. The other one may as well have been eating popcorn the whole time.

It's rather sad. The only thing that matters is a 5 second orgasm.

IronQuinn
01-19-20, 13:45
My guess is that if you shot the basketball and it rolled around the rim 3 times but fell out that you would count that too.What? Talk about out of left field. Yeah, like that's comparable as the same thing. Someone needs to sit down and talk to you about the birds and the bees.

World Travel 69
01-19-20, 15:57
It is in this thread:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists/page2

"I have spent hours and hours making and keeping up Maps and Lists in a lot of cities in countries around the World.

I do not get paid for this work.

We need your help. We expect that you will contribute by posting or sending me a PM of any updates, changes or new places, to help us all.

Also you should to be a paid member.

I have added photos to some of the places on the Map, that can be seen on a desktop or laptop computer. They may or may not show up on your cell phone.

Also please act like a Gentleman in this Country or any Country or you will lose the Privilege of using this Map."


I just arrived in Bogota yesterday and had to take a long ass nap. I was so tired haha. Now, rested, I am looking to enjoy the city and the chicas, but would like a wingman to go with especially places like Santa Fe or at least someone to show me the rope for first couple days. The map is helpful for sure. I got map for middle and north Chapinero. Does anyone have map for Santa Fe?

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01-19-20, 17:13
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Igor54
01-20-20, 15:28
Hi everyone,

Does anyone can answer my questions?

It seems escort agencies are not bad option for a short trip. For example, these two:

https://eroticasbogota.com/modelos/paula/

http://solitasparati.com/9/

1) Are the girls are real and pics are resent?

2) How much you can bring the price down, if you want to repeat with the girl and dump agency's fee?

3) If you book for one hour, how many times you can f. k the girl during that hour?

4) They offer additional time (Agency flatters you 20 minutes requested in addition to any time.) Is it true?

5) Your advice?

Thanks.

Va Steve
01-20-20, 23:15
Hi everyone,

Does anyone can answer my questions?

It seems escort agencies are not bad option for a short trip. For example, these two:

https://eroticasbogota.com/modelos/paula/

http://solitasparati.com/9/

1) Are the girls are real and pics are resent?

2) How much you can bring the price down, if you want to repeat with the girl and dump agency's fee?

3) If you book for one hour, how many times you can f. k the girl during that hour?

4) They offer additional time (Agency flatters you 20 minutes requested in addition to any time.) Is it true?

5) Your advice?

Thanks.See my review a page or two down. I had a good experience with this agency. The picture and description were accurate and I had an outstanding time with her!

https://lacelestina.co/en

Tigger69
01-21-20, 15:29
Nice try, but you completely missed the target. It's a strange standard to only count orgasms.Exactly; by that standard, most of the putas he sleeps with would still be virgins! Jaja!

Jrealyo
01-21-20, 18:46
Simple question.

Going to be in Bogota in 3 weeks. Will I need a jacket and long sleeve shirts?

Thanks.

Elvis 2008
01-21-20, 20:59
And I have not done so, this is what I would do. I would go to the foroprepagos dot com website and read the reviews, so you lessen the chance of being scammed. Use google or bing to translate programs to translate the reviews. La Celestina is the most popular agency listed there, which suggets they have the best reputation, and they are the one I would start with.


Hi everyone,

Does anyone can answer my questions?

It seems escort agencies are not bad option for a short trip. For example, these two:

https://eroticasbogota.com/modelos/paula/

http://solitasparati.com/9/

1) Are the girls are real and pics are resent?

2) How much you can bring the price down, if you want to repeat with the girl and dump agency's fee?

3) If you book for one hour, how many times you can f. k the girl during that hour?

4) They offer additional time (Agency flatters you 20 minutes requested in addition to any time.) Is it true?

5) Your advice?

Thanks.

Ryck II
01-22-20, 18:13
Simple question.

Going to be in Bogota in 3 weeks. Will I need a jacket and long sleeve shirts?

Thanks.Yes you need a jacket. Weather in Bogota goes from 9 to 19 celsius. Sometimes it rains a lot too, not much this time of the year but it does sometimes. You can see many gringos in shorts and sandals but that just put a big gringo sign on them and I am sure they are cold.

JjBee62
01-22-20, 22:20
Simple question.

Going to be in Bogota in 3 weeks. Will I need a jacket and long sleeve shirts?

Thanks.The nighttime temperature is usually around 42°. Daytime highs are rarely above 75°, and can be below 65° during the rainy season. The residents wear jackets and long sleeves.

I've seen guys wearing shorts in subzero temperatures, so I don't know if you will need long sleeves and a jacket, but you'll look a lot less conspicuous if you bring them.

Woodman09
01-23-20, 04:38
I was showing a friend around today. Lotsa hot streetie sweeties out, It definitely is worth checking out if you want to find some hot talent. I would say the best days are Wed- Sat.

I just walked through this evening getting some dinner, the street schwarma stand has moved into a store front right next to Paisa backdoor, Stop there and have a wrap, the garlic sauce is great.

The streetie sweeties were out in force, so many super cute 18-20 yo olds, new girls. If I was not so worn out I would have sessioned for sure.

Kutler
01-26-20, 11:20
First off I want to thank World Travel 69 for his maps, it is truly a labour of love and much appreciated.

I read a lot of things about the sparseness of Santa Fe over Christmas, which the year before last could have been very true.

Its been almost a month since I was back but I had to report Christmas in Santa Fe and Centro Medellin this year was better than expected.

This year I arrived on Christmas Eve late in the evening as usual I stayed at the Ibis Museo. During the Christmas time there are a lot of vendors into the evening, however this year it seems a little slim.

I was expecting the worst after checking out a padlocked Tantra spa, but moved along to Santa Fe shortly after that. The main clubs were closed, but at least one tried to stay open for a while, Paisas. Not many folks out.

There were lots of street girls however and I circled the area for a while selecting 3 during various times of the day. I paid between 30 K and 70 K for FS. Selecting two girls from outside the same hotel only steps away from the transmilleneo.

I was going to call it a night when I passed a bar called Titanic which was rocking late into the evening. Apparently small bar owners closed up and had a great time Salsa dancing with some women of suspect origin. (with street walkers lined up outside). It went on to at least 2 when people started to filter out.

Beer was cheap here 3 K Agula and Coronitas. I was spent anyway just enjoying chilling out and wishing I could salsa (more on that in the Medellin report).

I like Club Negra, a dark similar to Sam Adams Black type beer. It's getting hard to find, so I was able to wander into many clubs the next day and night. I went to Troya Dec 26th which is my repeat birthday go to place. It was open this day and it was also 85% full. I didn't hang around long however as I found the street girls more accommodating and the small bars had 3 K beer instead of Troya 8 K.

I found a place on a corner near some food and walking traffic pulled up a negra (beer) and observed. When you ask for sex oral natural you get all types of responses. The positive ones were followed up on. It didn't seem to matter if the chica was Colombian or Venezuelan or how good looking they were. You just had to ask to find out. It didn't take too long to pick out 3 for 20 minutes each.

Normally I don't get much satisfaction with 20 minutes and this trip I wanted to try taking a chica out for the whole night. As much as a test of my patience as anything else. It didn't happen in Bogota, but I did run into a Bogota Chica on vacation in Medellin, the next day.

Regarding security. I have been robbed in Santa Fe before. I wandered a little too far away from the action and paid a small price for it. Something seems to have come over Bogota recently. Police presence was very heavy in the Zona Tolerencia. One beggar was drunk and belligerent and just wouldn't get off my case. I told him if he didn't let up I was going to turn him in.

As I was walking over to the police he was mocking me about it, and at first I thought he was right. The cops are famous for calling for back up on their cell phones. But this time was different. These cops were on about 6 motorcycles just milling about as the drunk guy was mocking, it was quite obvious to the cop who the belligerent was. He pointed him out and I said yep that's the guy.

About a minute later the cops roared up the street and had him up against a wall. He probably spent the night in the drunk tank cause I never saw him again. Next day I went to Medellin.

Woodman09
01-27-20, 04:06
Stopped through SF with a friend to have a beer. In Atonis it was not as good as usual. Not my types about 10+ girls. It was about 8;30.

We were hanging near the corner of CL 23 and Cr16 with 3 18 yo girls smoking a joint right on sidewalk outside a hotel. There were about 25 girls in that area, Really hot ass pussy.

KangarooTed
01-27-20, 06:30
I found a place on a corner near some food and walking traffic pulled up a negra (beer) and observed. When you ask for sex oral natural you get all types of responses. The positive ones were followed up on. It didn't seem to matter if the chica was Colombian or Venezuelan or how good looking they were. You just had to ask to find out. It didn't take too long to pick out 3 for 20 minutes each..Can you tell us a bit more about your approach and what you said in Spanish to these girls for oral natural?

Did you engage in any banter first or were you just shouting it out to chicks on the street walking by as you were stood drinking your beer?

Thanks.

KangarooTed
01-27-20, 08:36
Stop there and have a wrap, the garlic sauce is great.I love garlic sauce, who doesn't?

And I love additional sauces as well, and lots of them. Extra sauce.

What other types of sauce do they have? Do they have a chilli sauce? Do they have Aji Verdi? Do they also have a red chilli sauce? I have a thing for sauce. Need to know.

Thanks.

Woodman09
01-27-20, 18:36
I love garlic sauce, who doesn't?

And I love additional sauces as well, and lots of them. Extra sauce.

What other types of sauce do they have? Do they have a chilli sauce? Do they have Aji Verdi? Do they also have a red chilli sauce? I have a thing for sauce. Need to know.

Thanks.They have 2 sauces a red orange sweet pepper sauce and the garlic. The normal Swarma is 7 mil or a Double is 12 mil.

In other restaurant news, a huge restaurant complex has opened on the corner of CR7 and Calle 22 in a refurbished colonial style building. An authentic taco shop named Taqueria, Cerdo rey, a boutique burger joint with beef or pork burgers and inside there are 2 or 3 huge classy joints. The remodel is beautiful.

JjBee62
01-27-20, 19:39
I love garlic sauce, who doesn't?

And I love additional sauces as well, and lots of them. Extra sauce.

What other types of sauce do they have? Do they have a chilli sauce? Do they have Aji Verdi? Do they also have a red chilli sauce? I have a thing for sauce. Need to know.

Thanks.Not too likely you'll sate your sauce desires in Colombia. The Colombian idea of a spicy sauce is ketchup. It's hard to find a restaurant with black pepper on the table.

Hobbying
01-28-20, 01:32
What is your opinion about mongering in Brazil compared to Columbia? Are the upscale clubs comparable with girls and prices?

Woodman09
01-28-20, 04:37
What is your opinion about mongering in Brazil compared to Columbia? Are the upscale clubs comparable with girls and prices?From what I have heard costs in Brazil are more nowadays. I have been to Rio and Sao Paulo and had great times there.

Food is better there. I think it is more dangerous in Brazil.

Rio is beautiful and I think everyone should go. The Termas are a lot of fun and I wish they had that set up in Colombia. I guess they are like the FKK set up.

Cocr Brotheler
01-28-20, 07:43
Yes 10 Dayzzzz whether I spend my whole time there or flight out to another CO city (s).

I will say that with time BOG ages well as I do. 1st trip there was in 2006 or 2007 and since was not mongering then not having a good time. After a few days I booked a trip to Medallo then back to BOG the day before my flight back to MIA.

Fast forward to Sept. 2010 and then I mongering regularly and just found BOG so many opportunities despite getting use to the altitude. For some reason that trip I do not remember the altitude affecting me so bad. I went to some masaje I think around Calle 105 and after walked all the way back to my hotel Windsor just north of Parque 93. My last memory was a day MP off Calle 72 con Car. 13 and OMG I need get back! But that was almost 10 years ago. What happened? I completed a very time consuming MBA in 2012, sold my home FL in 2013 then moved back to TX in 2014. TX not as many direct flights to CO. For a time in 2015 there was a great flight from AUS to MDE on Jet Blue changing in FLL that I could get to Medallo in a single day and during the day. That great flight has went away. Beginning of 2016 went to Cali on AA since also a flight during the day. Then this past November Thanksgiving time had the blessed fortune to piece together a trip back to MDE first time in almost 5 years! Enough CR trips in-between now and then thankfully. Now just recently have almost 3 weeks before next job so going back to BOG using a United $800 credit that will expire before I can use it next August.

And as I age and getting closer to retirement age 60/62 the thought is I just want to fucking move to CO and enjoy it while I can (even if I become completely impotent or lose my dick I can still finger away y comer that sweet vagina!).

Happy thoughts CO!

Elvis 2008
01-28-20, 17:22
What is your opinion about mongering in Brazil compared to Columbia? Are the upscale clubs comparable with girls and prices?My stereotype is the Brazilian women are better looking and better in bed, but they are much more business oriented and much less loyal compared to Colombian women.

You have the termas in Rio which are cool but I am not sure I would call them upscale. The upscale clubs I would compare to Bogota are in Sao Paulo. Exchange rates have fluctuated so costs have varied but in general prices were double in SP what they were in Bogota. Thing is that when I went to Cafe Foto and Bamboa (I hadn't been to Scandallo) you are in places that has some of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. The first one I bagged in Bamboa was a 10 in looks and a 9 performer. The second one was a 9 in looks and a 10 performer. The BBBJ that second woman gave had me yelping in pleasure, and I never had less than a 9 performer from these places. The SP women I was with were fucking sex machines.

As some of the guys here have said, if you go to Bogota and the high end clubs, the women at the high end clubs may be better dressed and more refined, but there is no guarantee of performance and in my experience, they were inferior to some of the women looks wise and performance wise than the far less upscale clubs in Santa Fe. Maybe I was just there at a bad time, but I didn't see any women I would call a 9 or 10 at those clubs. I did see 9's and 10's at Face Dos in Medellin. Still though, everything in FD was covered, and in my time in Brazil, all the women gave BBBJs and were up for anal.

If somebody here said something different, I might check out the high end clubs again, but until someone does, I do not see the point of going.

Tasss
01-28-20, 20:53
My stereotype is the Brazilian women are better looking and better in bed, but they are much more business oriented and much less loyal compared to Colombian women.I've never been to Brazil, but from reading the Brazil forums and looking at some escorts sites linked on the posts, I see that a large percentage of girls aren't Brazilian anyways. They're from Colombia and these lower cost of living countries.

Hobbying
01-28-20, 23:45
My stereotype is the Brazilian women are better looking and better in bed, but they are much more business oriented and much less loyal compared to Colombian women.

You have the termas in Rio which are cool but I am not sure I would call them upscale. The upscale clubs I would compare to Bogota are in Sao Paulo. Exchange rates have fluctuated so costs have varied but in general prices were double in SP what they were in Bogota. Thing is that when I went to Cafe Foto and Bamboa (I hadn't been to Scandallo) you are in places that has some of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. The first one I bagged in Bamboa was a 10 in looks and a 9 performer. The second one was a 9 in looks and a 10 performer. The BBBJ that second woman gave had me yelping in pleasure, and I never had less than a 9 performer from these places. The SP women I was with were fucking sex machines.

As some of the guys here have said, if you go to Bogota and the high end clubs, the women at the high end clubs may be better dressed and more refined, but there is no guarantee of performance and in my experience, they were inferior to some of the women looks wise and performance wise than the far less upscale clubs in Santa Fe. Maybe I was just there at a bad time, but I didn't see any women I would call a 9 or 10 at those clubs. I did see 9's and 10's at Face Dos in Medellin. Still though, everything in FD was covered, and in my time in Brazil, all the women gave BBBJs and were up for anal.

If somebody here said something different, I might check out the high end clubs again, but until someone does, I do not see the point of going.Thank you for the details!

I am considering going to Bogota or Medellin but BBJCIMs is a must and from my experience with the Colombians in Panama that were 9's and 10's they were all very mechanical and no CIM. I thought that this would be same experience if I go to Columbia so I never went. Whereas if I go to Brazil I know I will get anal and CIMs and all nighter for 1000 BRL or 250 USD for 9 and maybe a little more for a 10. If this can be had in Columbia also I will be there next month LOL.

Bomboa is great, tight quality control of the girls so they don't do anything like steal from customers and need to perform to be able to compete with the other girls. Is there a club like this in Columbia?

PirateMorgan
01-29-20, 03:56
Here's a trick. Go to the Colpatria / Davivienda machine directly across from the Migracion office. You can't miss it. You will not be charged an ATM fee and you can take out 2,700,000 pesos. Do NOT go to the Colpatria ATM on the far end of the airport---as if were just arriving at the airport. You will pay to use that machine. This is on the departure level. Using this machine you would NEVER use a casa de cambio.

Mr Enternational
01-29-20, 05:26
I've never been to Brazil, but from reading the Brazil forums and looking at some escorts sites linked on the posts, I see that a large percentage of girls aren't Brazilian anyways. They're from Colombia and these lower cost of living countries.I lived in Brazil and in almost 20 years of going there I have never met a hooker there that was not Brazilian. So maybe there is some anomaly with the site you were looking on. I have met Colombian hookers in Peru and even Thailand, but never Brazil.

Elvis 2008
01-29-20, 07:39
I thought that this would be same experience if I go to Columbia so I never went. Whereas if I go to Brazil I know I will get anal and CIMs and all nighter for 1000 BRL or 250 USD for 9 and maybe a little more for a 10. If this can be had in Columbia also I will be there next month LOL.

Bomboa is great, tight quality control of the girls so they don't do anything like steal from customers and need to perform to be able to compete with the other girls. Is there a club like this in Columbia?I took a 10 Vennie out of a Santa Fe Club for all night from a strip club for $100. She did DFK and BBBJ. Again, you won't see as many 10's as Bomboa, and the women may not be as upscale, but they are good looking and good in the sack. I have not been to Medellin recently but it is not a problem getting BBBJ in Bogota in my experience.

KangarooTed
01-29-20, 08:57
They have 2 sauces a red orange sweet pepper sauce and the garlic. The normal Swarma is 7 mil or a Double is 12 mil.

In other restaurant news, a huge restaurant complex has opened on the corner of CR7 and Calle 22 in a refurbished colonial style building. An authentic taco shop named Taqueria, Cerdo rey, a boutique burger joint with beef or pork burgers and inside there are 2 or 3 huge classy joints. The remodel is beautiful.Thanks I will definitely be going with both sauce options.

Food news is good news! I like that end of town for food options, one of the reasons I like to stay in that location sometimes.

Sounds like it will be a big improvement on the last time I got 'tacos', from Tacos why Empanadas, on Calle 23 why Cra 5.

WTF they were not tacos at all.

IronQuinn
01-29-20, 14:05
Whereas if I go to Brazil I know I will get anal and CIMs and all nighter for 1000 BRL or 250 USD for 9 and maybe a little more for a 10.You paid 250 US for one girl? You must be crazy. I could screw a dozen street girls for that who are all hot in SF. Of course, everyone's idea of a 10 is different. Personally, I like girls who are short, very dark-skinned, with huge asses. I can't speak for anal, because I couldn't care less about that, but BBBJ and CIM have never been a problem, it's just assumed, at least from the girls I've gotten. That's everywhere I've been (South America, Africa, and SEA). I naturally have an aggressive personality, and I'm dominate in the bedroom, so that might help. Just take control, point them in the right direction, and they'll start sucking.

Mr Enternational
01-29-20, 14:57
Whereas if I go to Brazil I know I will get anal and CIMs and all nighter for 1000 BRL or 250 USD for 9 and maybe a little more for a 10.Now I am really confused. First off, I never see women rating themselves. Sure some hooker might tell you some bullshit like you have to pay me more because I am clean and all those other girls have diseases. But I have never seen one saying they looked better than some others. Most women have so many insecurities that they don't think they look half as good as you think they look anyway.

Second, has a chick really ever said $250? Are you crazy? I am a 10. Only 9's would accept $250. You have to pay me at least $300. So where are you pulling these prices from and how are these 10's differentiating themselves from these 9's in order to warrant a higher price since the whole rating shit is subjective?

If 2 chicks are standing ass nekkit side by side with no makeup or anything on, what would make one a 9 and the other a 10? Could one chick be a 9 one day and a 10 tomorrow, while the other one is a 10 today and a 9 tomorrow? What would have to change about them in order for their rating to go up or down and be worth more or less from one day to the next?

Hobbying
01-29-20, 15:14
You paid 250 US for one girl? You must be crazy. I could screw a dozen street girls for that who are all hot in SF. Of course, everyone's idea of a 10 is different. Personally, I like girls who are short, very dark-skinned, with huge asses. I can't speak for anal, because I couldn't care less about that, but BBBJ and CIM have never been a problem, it's just assumed, at least from the girls I've gotten. That's everywhere I've been (South America, Africa, and SEA). I naturally have an aggressive personality, and I'm dominate in the bedroom, so that might help. Just take control, point them in the right direction, and they'll start sucking.I prefer club girls because of the quality control. Bomboa Girls are required to have testing and gyno exam every 3 months. They also have to do what they say will do or management will get rid of them. So I'll gladly pay the higher price.

Hobbying
01-29-20, 15:20
Now I am really confused. First off, I never see women rating themselves. Sure some hooker might tell you some bullshit like you have to pay me more because I am clean and all those other girls have diseases. But I have never seen one saying they looked better than some others. Most women have so many insecurities that they don't think they look half as good as you think they look anyway.

Second, has a chick really ever said $250? Are you crazy? I am a 10. Only 9's would accept $250. You have to pay me at least $300. So where are you pulling these prices from and how are these 10's differentiating themselves from these 9's in order to warrant a higher price since the whole rating shit is subjective?

If 2 chicks are standing ass nekkit side by side with no makeup or anything on, what would make one a 9 and the other a 10? Could one chick be a 9 one day and a 10 tomorrow, while the other one is a 10 today and a 9 tomorrow? What would have to change about them in order for their rating to go up or down and be worth more or less from one day to the next?You're are right, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and is subjective.

I did not say girls rate themselves. But if the girl was in Playboy Brasil, I would say she is a 10.

Hobbying
01-29-20, 15:24
I lived in Brazil and in almost 20 years of going there I have never met a hooker there that was not Brazilian. So maybe there is some anomaly with the site you were looking on. I have met Colombian hookers in Peru and even Thailand, but never Brazil.I've met some non Brazilians in the boates during Formula 1 week where the girls come from all over to make a quick buck.

Balboa
01-29-20, 16:13
I lived in Brazil and in almost 20 years of going there I have never met a hooker there that was not Brazilian. So maybe there is some anomaly with the site you were looking on. I have met Colombian hookers in Peru and even Thailand, but never Brazil.I have met a few working Colombianas actually in Rio.

One in Mabs, one at Solarium, one at VM.

You’re correct though, the vast majority are Brazilian girls.

Balboa
01-29-20, 16:28
My stereotype is the Brazilian women are better looking and better in bed, but they are much more business oriented and much less loyal compared to Colombian women..IMO it's hard to beat the downright beauty of the Colombiana, generally speaking.

The Brazilians are pretty damn sexy too though.

Just a matter of taste I guess. No complaints in either country really.

Also generally speaking, I agree, the Brazilian girl wins in the bedroom department.

As far as business oriented and loyalty goes, I find both igual In that regard.

Working girls that have been at it a while, and or work in clubs / areas where there are gringos, from either country, tend to be more business oriented.

Obviously girls found out of the tourist / gringo area will be less business like, sweeter, etc.
Generally. There are exceptions of course.

I've had varias girlfriends in both countries as well, over the years.
I've found them both to be igual as far as being loyal.
If they dig you, they dig you, if they don't, they don't.

My current girlfriend, a Brazilian, is the best and most loyal yet.

Not sure about loyalty among the working girls, LOL.
I think that's obvious.
They'll go where the money is.

Turgid
01-29-20, 21:46
............... Personally, I like girls who are short, very dark-skinned, with huge asses. ..........................That's the beauty of the mongering world, we all have varying tastes and one man's five is another man's ten. IronQuinn if you and I entered a club and there were only 2 girls there, one was short, dark skinned with a huge butt and the other was tall, fair complexioned and skinny, we would both be very happy.

AfAsia
01-30-20, 01:33
Here's a trick. Go to the Colpatria / Davivienda machine directly across from the Migracion office. You can't miss it. You will not be charged an ATM fee and you can take out 2,700,000 pesos.What denominations will the machine issue? Will I need an extra bag for the cash LOL? Never drawn more than a couple K before. Firstimer to Colombia end of March. Don't know why they do not lop off the zeros as other countries have in the past.

JjBee62
01-30-20, 10:51
What denominations will the machine issue? Will I need an extra bag for the cash LOL? Never drawn more than a couple K before. Firstimer to Colombia end of March. Don't know why they do not lop off the zeros as other countries have in the past.Most ATMs dispense 50,000 and 20,000 bills. I believe some also give 10,000 bills, but I don't remember for certain.

A couple K in Colombia will buy you a bottle of water.

IronQuinn
01-30-20, 14:14
That's the beauty of the mongering world, we all have varying tastes and one man's five is another man's ten. IronQuinn if you and I entered a club and there were only 2 girls there, one was short, dark skinned with a huge butt and the other was tall, fair complexioned and skinny, we would both be very happy.I definitely agree. I'll save those skinny light-skinned girls for you, my man.

IronQuinn
01-30-20, 14:22
Here's a trick. Go to the Colpatria / Davivienda machine directly across from the Migracion office. You can't miss it. You will not be charged an ATM fee and you can take out 2,700,000 pesos. Do NOT go to the Colpatria ATM on the far end of the airport---as if were just arriving at the airport. You will pay to use that machine. This is on the departure level. Using this machine you would NEVER use a casa de cambio.Thanks for the tip. There's also another option: you can get the money before you come. I can order foreign currency through my bank (in the US) and it arrives within a day or two. All I have to do is fill out a form, and the cash is taken out of my account and traded for whatever currency I want. The exchange is free for any amount over $150, and there is no loss on the exchange rate, it exactly matches XE.

Elvis 2008
01-30-20, 15:02
Thanks for the tip. There's also another option: you can get the money before you come. I can order foreign currency through my bank (in the US) and it arrives within a day or two. All I have to do is fill out a form, and the cash is taken out of my account and traded for whatever currency I want. The exchange is free for any amount over $150, and there is no loss on the exchange rate, it exactly matches XE.Great tip, IQ!!

Mr Enternational
01-30-20, 16:30
Another good night in Santa Fe last night. Hit 3 chicks for 30K each and 7K each time for the rooms. I asked one Venezuelan that I hit how much for all night. She said from this time (it was 11:30) generally 180K or 150K. I was playing with the last chick's bootyhole and she said I could fuck it for a little extra. I declined. All the chicks forced their numbers on me after the sessions. Police had a big bus out all night creating a traffic jam. I saw one chick sitting in the back in what appeared to be a cell.

I was there last week as well on Sunday the 19th. Went with TDC and another board member to show them around. It was nothing like it is on a Friday. A lot of clubs and even motels were closed. But we still had a blast. That night I think they called it quits at 1 am and I still stayed out til about 4. I was doing my usual chill on the corner and the police came up and asked me for ID. I showed them my passport card and they told me to keep it moving.

The last 2 times I have used EasyTaxi/Cabify to get from the airport to Hotel San Francisco downtown. The cost has been 23K. I meet the driver upstairs at door 5. Works out much better than Uber did, having to search all around the parking lot for your driver. I am off to Barranquilla for some non-pro action now.

As a side note: I got a new toy. A water tester. I was surprised to see that the water running through the pipes at Hotel San Francisco (20) is much cleaner than bottled water (80). It is all safe to drink until you get around the 500 mark.

Routard
01-30-20, 19:49
As a side note: I got a new toy. A water tester. I was surprised to see that the water running through the pipes at Hotel San Francisco (20) is much cleaner than bottled water (80). It is all safe to drink until you get around the 500 mark.I know someone who did the same test but with a lab, and he confirmed me the same. Tap water was the best quality, then Manatian, the other water brands came out bad. However, they often use water reservoirs on the top of the buildings as in the past Bogota suffered from water shortage. Some of these reservoirs are really dirty. Bottom line: it might be different from one hotel to another.

PuntingGeorge
01-30-20, 22:14
I'm back after too long. Landed last night in the middle of the night, so wasn't ready until 3:30 am, which is too late for the clubs. Arranged for a chica from a previous trip to come over. 250 k for 4 hours. I don't usually pay so much but not many options at that time of night and I wanted guaranteed quality.

Went out this morning using the map. First couple of places don't seem to exist but maybe I'm not following it correctly. Ended up is a casa a couple blocks away from my apt. 4 chicas came out to introduce themselves. I picked the first one and she told me it's 35 k for half an hour. I asked if oral is without condom she said everything is covered, so I said never mind I really wanted oral without. She says okay, no problem, I'll do it without. We go to the room, she tells me to hang my clothes, as soon as I'm naked she says oral without is extra. After all these years of mongering I can't believe I fell for one of the simplest puta scams. She only wanted 10 k extra but on principle there was no way she was getting it. I tried to argue but she said pay or have it covered. Fuck it, I wasn't going to give in and now she'd earned herself angry sex, which is always fun.

Actually turned out to be a fun session and I got sucked off and fucked for $10, life is good!

I think I'll get myself a massage this afternoon then hit SF tonight.

JjBee62
01-30-20, 23:36
Great tip, IQ!!This is a big YMMV item.

I just spent 40 minutes, digging through the wrong thread, trying to find my post about the various costs of getting pesos. The bank I use offered to sell me pesos at a cost of 16%. It's better than the airport casa de cambio, but worse than any other option. Even sending money to yourself via Western Union is cheaper.

However, Bank of America gives an excellent rate to their customers. Maybe because they've been caught twice, in the past 10 years involved in a major foreign currency manipulation scheme.

My soon to be former bank, Fifth Third, always hit me for about 6% on foreign ATM withdrawals. My new account charges a flat 1% and will reimburse foreign ATM fees.

One issue that most aren't aware of, involves the max amount an ATM will dispense. It's not universal. For example, I went to a Davivienda ATM with another monger. The max he could withdraw was 400 k. The max I could withdraw was 2 million.

IronQuinn
01-31-20, 03:41
This is a big YMMV item.

I just spent 40 minutes, digging through the wrong thread, trying to find my post about the various costs of getting pesos. The bank I use offered to sell me pesos at a cost of 16%. It's better than the airport casa de cambio, but worse than any other option. Even sending money to yourself via Western Union is cheaper.

However, Bank of America gives an excellent rate to their customers. Maybe because they've been caught twice, in the past 10 years involved in a major foreign currency manipulation scheme.

My soon to be former bank, Fifth Third, always hit me for about 6% on foreign ATM withdrawals. My new account charges a flat 1% and will reimburse foreign ATM fees.

One issue that most aren't aware of, involves the max amount an ATM will dispense. It's not universal. For example, I went to a Davivienda ATM with another monger. The max he could withdraw was 400 k. The max I could withdraw was 2 million.I use M+T bank. I filled out a form, and as long as I ordered over $150, the transaction was free. Whatever the market value shows at the time I place the order, is what I'll get in pesos. You have to have an account at the bank, but it's worth it. Yes, Bank of America does give an excellent rate as well.

Kutler
01-31-20, 14:13
Another good night in Santa Fe last night. Hit 3 chicks for 30K each and 7K each time for the rooms. I asked one Venezuelan that I hit how much for all night. She said from this time (it was 11:30) generally 180K or 150K. I was playing with the last chick's bootyhole and she said I could fuck it for a little extra. I declined. All the chicks forced their numbers on me after the sessions. Police had a big bus out all night creating a traffic jam. I saw one chick sitting in the back in what appeared to be a cell.

I was there last week as well on Sunday the 19th. Went with TDC and another board member to show them around. It was nothing like it is on a Friday. A lot of clubs and even motels were closed. But we still had a blast. That night I think they called it quits at 1 am and I still stayed out til about 4. I was doing my usual chill on the corner and the police came up and asked me for ID. I showed them my passport card and they told me to keep it moving.

The last 2 times I have used EasyTaxi/Cabify to get from the airport to Hotel San Francisco downtown. The cost has been 23K. I meet the driver upstairs at door 5. Works out much better than Uber did, having to search all around the parking lot for your driver. I am off to Barranquilla for some non-pro action now.

As a side note: I got a new toy. A water tester. I was surprised to see that the water running through the pipes at Hotel San Francisco (20) is much cleaner than bottled water (80). It is all safe to drink until you get around the 500 mark.Thanks for the cabify tip, don't quite understand if you will be picked up by a cab or private car yet but will try it out next Saturday. Am in town to stop off in Santa Fe, to look up a friend and hopefully catch a bullfight before heading back Wednesday. Really want to obtain a membership, seems hard to obtain bitcoin in Canada. Plan to have a chica come by the Ibis for a few hours. Last time she had a passport and it was remarkably easy to register her at no extra cost.

JjBee62
01-31-20, 17:53
Thanks for the cabify tip, don't quite understand if you will be picked up by a cab or private car yet but will try it out next Saturday. Am in town to stop off in Santa Fe, to look up a friend and hopefully catch a bullfight before heading back Wednesday. Really want to obtain a membership, seems hard to obtain bitcoin in Canada. Plan to have a chica come by the Ibis for a few hours. Last time she had a passport and it was remarkably easy to register her at no extra cost.Cabify and EasyTaxi are regular taxis.

Tasss
02-01-20, 06:20
Rough notes from my last trip to Bogota, mainly stayed in the SF area.

- Data prices at a small sidewalk shop for TIGO: 39 k for 30 days, 2 GB of data, no minutes. 20 k for 15 days, 2 GB data, no minutes. SIM card is sold separately for 3 k. Needed to register my phone using the TIGO app afterwards to avoid getting blocked (I had to go to an official store since I didn't know how to use the TIGO app). Added 6 k for some text messages and minutes afterwards. Ignore the touts at the airport selling SIM cards. They overcharge you.

- 30 k official taxi to my Santa Fe Airbnb at the first floor of the airport.

- Rappi (food and groceries) and UberEats apps are very useful, especially if you have few restaurants nearby.

- Chapinero clubs like El Padrino and Olimpio etc. Offered no value to non-Spanish speakers, despite their 3 x-4 x prices. Went in at Friday 9 pm and most clubs had 0 customers.

- Tantra Spa was so-so. Girl selection was OK, but the girl I picked didn't give a massage, which was the real reason why I went there. She went straight to sex.

- Abadubai Spa in Chapinero. At 8 pm Saturday I was presented with 2 girls. One of them was pretty, maybe 7. 5/10. The two girls that were there were better than most of the girls at Tantra Spa. She had a good attitude and spoke some English. I only wanted a massage at the time and was charged 130 k, which included CBJ. The massage was legit and the girl was nice. The girl wanted 300 k / HR to come to my apartment and everything covered. Not worth it if you're comfortable with SF, but definitely I can see the appeal: bigger rooms, and overall safer area. The girl is a paisa. My observation: I haven't met working girl Bogotanas in Medellin but I met working girl paisas in Bogota. I'm guessing overall Medellin is poorer.

- I overheard an SF street girl negotiating prices with a local guy, and he was quoted 30 k. I'm guessing it's for like 20 min or something. Anyways I'm never interested in those super short time sessions. I get quoted 35-50 k without asking when I walk by these girls.

- Troya was close to capacity and very lively at Friday 10 pm-ish. 10 minute private dance with a big natural tit girl for 20 k. Pussy and tit licking allowed. I gave her 20 k while she was dancing but she tried to charge me another 20 k after the dance. I said no several times and she went away. I think you're supposed to pay her after the dance and not during, and while there are witnesses. Otherwise she can tell the waiters that you didn't pay. Another girl came by and I got my perv on and groped her, gave her 2 k.

- Atonis is a great club. Woodman's favorite I think and deservedly so. You get more attention as a group. The girls on stage would come by and smash your face into their tits / pussy if you're in a group (for tips of course). I was solo but still enjoyed the lesbo show.

- Based off of only a few samples from this trip and the last, the Colombianas who work at Santa Fe appear to be from the lower class, whereas the Venezuelans can come from both low and middle class backgrounds and are often more educated. The more educated girls make for better conversations and are more patient with Google Translate. However, I'd say the two hottest girls I've had in SF were lower-class Colombianas.

- SF Vennies over SF Colombianas any day of the week for quality of service. The Colombianas don't like the Vennies since they undercut them on price and out-perform them on services provided. One Bogotana told me this explicitly, "they charge so little money". Other observations: my Medellin FB girls frequently post negative memes about "Venecas", another Bogotana tells me Vennies have diseases Actually the only girl who I suspected of carrying a disease is one Bogotana, who had fishy smelling pussy. Honestly I don't mind paying a little more, but on average, the Colombianas' attitudes, while not terrible, just don't get to the GFE level that Vennies do.

- If you stay nearby Santa Fe, it's easier to get the Vennies to come back to your place for repeat sessions since they all stay in the short term hotels there. My Vennie repeats can all come to my place in under 10 minutes by taxi. Meanwhile the SF Colombianas live somewhere else, often in some neighborhood that's far off from the city center and takes them an hour, two hours to arrive at one of the central districts like Santa Fe or Chapinero.

- SF Vennies always need money, so they're always happy to see you. Colombianas only need money sometimes, so on certain days they go radio silent and you can't reach them.

- Nearly all the Vennies hate the Bogota weather, but they're choosing to not work in Medellin for some reason. I asked a girl why and she says there are more normal jobs here which anchor the rest of their family (brothers, father, mother, etc).

- Sessioned with a Vennie who looks 90% like Paola Acosta. Paola is / was a well known FB girl in Medellin, thinks she's high end, and charges as such. Now she appears to be working in Thailand. Anyways, I tried to get Paola without success when I was in MDE, so the Vennie, who was about 1/3 of the price, made my day.

- One of the girls I repeated with lives in Soacha. Her taxi ride was 100 k coming and 100 k returning, which combined was more than the cost of her session. I initially thought there's some funny business going on, like she's sharing some of the taxi fare with the driver she knew, but the taxi fare estimator online did say it's about 100 k for a 20 km taxi, which is the distance from Soacha to SF.

- There are these little street girl cliques that stake out their own territories. Sometimes they're just friends or sometimes they're all from the same city in Venezuela. Like I know of a Bogotana clique and a Valencia clique. They all know each other and share information. Like they'd tell me, "you took my friend the other day".

- Colombian cops seem to go by pairs all the time, unlike in the US. Even on a motorcycle, it's always two cops each. Probably for their own safety.

- I can't seem to find fully-sugar-sweetened 1. 5 L soda bottles anymore. All the 1. 5 L-3 L bottle of Coke, Pepsi etc are all partially sucralose, which I can taste and don't like. 100% sugar-sweetened sodas only go up to 600 ML.

- Saw a fight between 2 groups of Colombian guys outside of Fiebre. Guys throwing stuff at each other, not caring about whether they're hitting bystanders.

- Saw 50-75 riot police face off against a similar number of rioters on Avenida NQS while I was in a taxi. Police were using water cannons against the rioters.

Why SF isn't for everyone.

- Don't leave anything in your pants pockets. A few tricks that girls have used during this trip to rummage through my pants. A) I left my pants on the ground to quickly wash my dick before my session starts. I can see the pants through a mirror. The girl knew this and so she used a blanket to pretend to cover herself, but in reality she was blocking the mirror's view of her hand going through my pants pockets on the ground. B) I left my pants on the bed. While I was shooting my load, she hopped off my dick and reached backwards into my pants which was behind her at the time.

- A girl tried to (unsuccessfully) grab the contents of my pocket while I was negotiating with her, but at that time I didn't have my phone with me, so the most she would have gotten was taxi money anyway. The idea is to lure you inside one of the hotels / garages were people can't see. So do your negotiations where you're visible.

- A thief in SF tried to rob me when I took a wrong turn on foot. I turned around as soon as I realized I went the wrong way, but the guy followed me until I got into a taxi. He followed me even when I got to where there were a lot of people. I was moving fast enough that it wasn't extremely dangerous but it teaches you to be wary. I think if I threw a 10 mil bill on the ground, he'd probably chase that. I didn't bring out anything except taxi money that day anyway.

- Not bringing out your phone does have its downsides, like not being able to negotiate clearly with the girl if she has questions about your offer. So later I did take the risk and started bringing it out.

- I went up to a girl's hotel room in SF and I saw she had a large knife in one of the drawers. So in other words, don't be an idiot when you're with the girl Another girl also told me she had a knife in her room, so it's a common thing I guess.

BigBootyLover9
02-01-20, 18:01
Hey guys,

So I'm coming to Bogota in a couple days, and I wanted to know where to find girls with the biggest fattest asses. I mean like when they walk it jiggles LOL. If you didn't already know I'm an Ass man LOL, but anyways it would mean a lot to me if you guys would help, thanks.

Hotrod10
02-01-20, 22:20
I just returned from my second trip to Bogota 7 days. My first trip was 2 months ago I didn't report because I had nothing good to report. I liked the clean, safe city but I just couldn't get used to the altitude. I liked the city so much on my first trip I tried to get in better physical shape and try it again. I'm in my early 70's I guess this has a lot to do with it but up and including my last day I was miserable.

I have a regular VISA debit card and I have always been charged a fee to make a withdrawal but this time a bank called WWMV charged nothing. First time ever. I stayed at the IBIS museum hotel across street from a BBMV ATM worked out good. I would recommend the IBIS. Its clean, cheap, 47 us a night. They say girl friendly. I don't know I didn't try. Decent smorgasbord bfast 7 us. 5 cop taxi to Santa Fee.

I made 4 trips to Santa Fe and really this is my kind of place. As long as you keep your wits and don't do anything stupid you will be OK. Only incident I had was with a crazy drunk looking for a handout. I walked away and he followed, now he was rising his voice so I walked into a small place only had 2 tables and a cooler with beer. I got a beer and sat down and here comes the crazy guy. He walked toward me talking in Spanish, he seems to be pissed because I didn't give him some change. The barmaid stands between him and me so now hes screaming at her. Bad idea. She can't be over 5 feet tall but she pushes him with both open hands several times now hes out the door. The rest is complicated but a elderly fella on the sidewalk taking all this in puts his big paw on the back of the crazy guys neck and off they go never to be seen again. I am so disappointed that I have a hard time breathing I would love to spend a lot of time here.

Kutler
02-02-20, 16:57
Rough notes from my last trip to Bogota, mainly stayed in the SF area.Thanks for the report. I'm going back to Bogota, has the tantra spa relocated or is the address false?

Regarding vennie repeats going back to your hotel, did you find any trust issues or consider overnighting one?

There are some real beauties there, sometimes they stand for hours.

JjBee62
02-02-20, 18:59
Hey guys,

So I'm coming to Bogota in a couple days, and I wanted to know where to find girls with the biggest fattest asses. I mean like when they walk it jiggles LOL. If you didn't already know I'm an Ass man LOL, but anyways it would mean a lot to me if you guys would help, thanks.Any Walmart, anywhere in the US.

Woodman09
02-02-20, 19:30
Hey guys,

So I'm coming to Bogota in a couple days, and I wanted to know where to find girls with the biggest fattest asses. I mean like when they walk it jiggles LOL. If you didn't already know I'm an Ass man LOL, but anyways it would mean a lot to me if you guys would help, thanks.Santa Fe all day and night.

Tasss
02-02-20, 22:10
Thanks for the report. I'm going back to Bogota, has the tantra spa relocated or is the address false?

Regarding vennie repeats going back to your hotel, did you find any trust issues or consider overnighting one?Tantra's location on WT's map is still accurate.

I did not ask for TLN. It's not really my thing.

Mr Enternational
02-02-20, 23:01
Don't know what the bullshit with the Tinder is in Bogota. Whenever I click on someone, nobody clicks back. The few that do, do it 4 days later after I have already left.

So yesterday while I was in Barranquilla, a beautiful 22 year old chick in Bogota clicked me back. She wanted to pussyfoot around, while I was trying to get to the root. Finally went to whatsapp where I pulled out of her that she would come stay with me all night for 280K. I said no way. That is way too much. She asked if I was one of the guys that pay 100K. I said that I mess with a lot of normal women so it is usually 0. But I am willing to help if she would give me a more realistic price. She said 230. I said yes, but that will include your taxi or bus or transmilenio or whatever. She said sure. So when I get back to Bogota Wednesday, she is supposed to come in the afternoon and stay til the next day.

Here is my question. When she was telling me about the 280, she said that one place she works charges 300K/30 min. That is when I told her that I didn't need to know about places because of free chicks. It didn't hit me til later on last night. So today I asked what place. She would not tell me exactly, but said in Zona Rosa there is some disco on 86. Does anyone know what.

TJHoag
02-03-20, 04:07
Anyone in town this week let me know. I'm in town Tues.- sat. I've been to Bogota a few times but my Spanish is limited. Interested in going to Santa Fe or north. Best contact by PM.

Cocr Brotheler
02-03-20, 06:27
Don't know what the bullshit with the Tinder is in Bogota. Whenever I click on someone, nobody clicks back. The few that do, do it 4 days later after I have already left.

So yesterday while I was in Barranquilla, a beautiful 22 year old chick in Bogota clicked me back. She wanted to pussyfoot around, while I was trying to get to the root. Finally went to whatsapp where I pulled out of her that she would come stay with me all night for 280K. I said no way. That is way too much. She asked if I was one of the guys that pay 100K. I said that I mess with a lot of normal women so it is usually 0. But I am willing to help if she would give me a more realistic price. She said 230. I said yes, but that will include your taxi or bus or transmilenio or whatever. She said sure. So when I get back to Bogota Wednesday, she is supposed to come in the afternoon and stay til the next day.

Here is my question. When she was telling me about the 280, she said that one place she works charges 300K/30 min. That is when I told her that I didn't need to know about places because of free chicks. It didn't hit me til later on last night. So today I asked what place. She would not tell me exactly, but said in Zona Rosa there is some disco on 86. Does anyone know what.Maybe it is some Loutron chica freelancing it down there. That is my best guess from studying Routard's list from Jan. 2017.

Is why I shy away from social media B.S. Challenging enough when I encounter a decent chica in an MP and try open her up after she gives me her cell on Thurs. She proly contact me tomorrow, is off today.

Cocr Brotheler
02-03-20, 06:41
This is a big YMMV item.

I just spent 40 minutes, digging through the wrong thread, trying to find my post about the various costs of getting pesos. The bank I use offered to sell me pesos at a cost of 16%. It's better than the airport casa de cambio, but worse than any other option. Even sending money to yourself via Western Union is cheaper.

However, Bank of America gives an excellent rate to their customers. Maybe because they've been caught twice, in the past 10 years involved in a major foreign currency manipulation scheme.

My soon to be former bank, Fifth Third, always hit me for about 6% on foreign ATM withdrawals. My new account charges a flat 1% and will reimburse foreign ATM fees.

One issue that most aren't aware of, involves the max amount an ATM will dispense. It's not universal. For example, I went to a Davivienda ATM with another monger. The max he could withdraw was 400 k. The max I could withdraw was 2 million.One huge issue I had on my MDE trip two months ago was complete denial across many banks of my ATM card. I phoned USAA from down there at the time and they said we see not see an issue but still on 2nd day and over 2 hours trying various ATMs could not use it. So I was forced to use my checking / debit card which I hate to do even in US cause if stolen can drain your account in an instant and wreck havoc with payments. Fortunately nothing happened.

So fast forward to last week and calling USAA to check 'What's Up with last Nov / Dec and they are like hey everything is fine" and when I told them I used my ATM card successfully in see. Are. In Nov they said "Yes because it is a USA Protectorate" LOL. Right then I knew that I needed to talk to his Super. Seems that since I last used my ATM in Colombia in Feb. 2016 Colombia does not allow ATM withdrawals. Has to be from a primary checking account.

Has anybody had similar issues?

JjBee62
02-03-20, 14:41
One huge issue I had on my MDE trip two months ago was complete denial across many banks of my ATM card. I phoned USAA from down there at the time and they said we see not see an issue but still on 2nd day and over 2 hours trying various ATMs could not use it. So I was forced to use my checking / debit card which I hate to do even in US cause if stolen can drain your account in an instant and wreck havoc with payments. Fortunately nothing happened.

So fast forward to last week and calling USAA to check 'What's Up with last Nov / Dec and they are like hey everything is fine" and when I told them I used my ATM card successfully in see. Are. In Nov they said "Yes because it is a USA Protectorate" LOL. Right then I knew that I needed to talk to his Super. Seems that since I last used my ATM in Colombia in Feb. 2016 Colombia does not allow ATM withdrawals. Has to be from a primary checking account.

Has anybody had similar issues?My first time in Bogota, before everyone was using chipped cards, none of the ATMs I tried worked. I called my bank, I talked to someone in one of the banks. Nobody could help. Then I found a Citibank branch and it worked fine.

In Medellin, at the end of being there for a year straight, I started having ATM problems. Some ATMs I'd always used wouldn't let me withdraw. Others would only let me withdraw 400 k when before I had always taken more. Got back to the US and continued to have problems. Turned out there was a problem with the chip in my card. New card, no more problems.

If you're using USAA, you should be able to get an account with Navy Federal Credit Union. Low fees and they reimburse up to $10/ month of foreign ATM service fees. I'll let you know later this year how well they work with the various ATMs.

Woodman09
02-03-20, 16:13
Anyone in town this week let me know. I'm in town Tues.- sat. I've been to Bogota a few times but my Spanish is limited. Interested in going to Santa Fe or north. Best contact by PM.There are tons of gringos here now. Was in SF last night with a friend. Ran into 3-4 other guys I know from other trips and was seeing lots of gringo looking dudes, walking around and in clubs. I know tons ofof guys coming this week.

Was an average Sunday night Decent action. Saturday night was as usual off the hook.

JonSnow1
02-03-20, 19:20
My Charles Schwab card got mangled in an ATM and I didn't want to use my credit union card due to the outrageous fees. There is a service called Remitely.com that you can send yourself money and pick up at BanColombia or BBVA (the other banks require cedulas). It's similar to western union, but has lower fees and seemed to be a lesser hassle for me. You can transfer yourself money in 15 minutes for $4. 99 or if you can wait 3 days, the fee is $. 50! You also receive a better exchange rate if you opt for the slower transfer. Below are some things I noticed picking up at each bank branch.

BBVA. Need to submit a photocopy of your passport. They ask you for your local Cell#, address. Otherwise an easy process after the 1st time and less crowded than BanColombia. Limit of $1,000 transfer per month. Subsequent pickups are easy as your information is stored.

Bancolombia. Need to submit a photocopy of your passport and fill out a form (where the money is coming from, your profession, salary. Etc) although you can bullshit on all the information. BanColombia seemed a bit more strict due to money-laundering concerns in Colombia. This form is only needed the first time and then you can pick up just by presenting your passport. BanColombia is a more crowded, so it would be ideal to find a smaller branch. A few tellers look at your passport entry stamp to make sure your within your visa allowance. If there's an issue, just say thank you and go to another branch or come back latter for a different teller. Believe the max transfer at Bancolombia was $3,000/ month.

Some tellers may ask who & why you are receiving money. I always told the tellers that I lost my wallet and was sending myself money and it was for "tourism". I found this to be an easier option for withdrawing larger sums of money at a time.

Viajando Musico
02-03-20, 19:59
R-
Based off of only a few samples from this trip and the last, the Colombianas who work at Santa Fe appear to be from the lower class, whereas the Venezuelans can come from both low and middle class backgrounds and are often more educated. The more educated girls make for better conversations and are more patient with Google Translate. However, I'd say the two hottest girls I've had in SF were lower-class Colombianas.
Tasss, very good observation and report. Thanks. My take differs from yours on the above. In my many trips to Santa Fe in the last 2 years, I have met a few well educated Colombianas and Venezolanas from very normal middle class families and were forced to be in the business for obvious financial reason. There were 2 particular Colombianas whom I still keep in contact with from time to time, are finishing their study to be professionals, one civil engineer, one graphic designer, and they don't worked there full time. One thing I need to clarify is that all these girls I met them in clubs, not on streets.

Anthony2012
02-03-20, 20:18
There are tons of gringos here now. Was in SF last night with a friend. Ran into 3-4 other guys I know from other trips and was seeing lots of gringo looking dudes, walking around and in clubs. I know tons ofof guys coming this week.

Was an average Sunday night Decent action. Saturday night was as usual off the hook.Myself and Wingman are here this week Monday-Thursday.

Routard
02-04-20, 00:01
It didn't hit me til later on last night. So today I asked what place. She would not tell me exactly, but said in Zona Rosa there is some disco on 86. Does anyone know what.That's Piscina del Norte.

Tasss
02-04-20, 03:15
One thing I need to clarify is that all these girls I met them in clubs, not on streets.I should also clarify that I'm talking about the street girls. I didn't take any girl from the clubs. I would expect to see more middle-class girls overall, both Vennies and Colombianas, working in the clubs where it's more comfortable and more out-of-sight.

Balboa
02-04-20, 04:17
There are tons of gringos here now. Was in SF last night with a friend. Ran into 3-4 other guys I know from other trips and was seeing lots of gringo looking dudes, walking around and in clubs. I know tons ofof guys coming this week..Not exactly great news.

The gringo influx is never really good for monger destinations overall.

I’m sure they’re all great guys though, Lol.

Turgid
02-04-20, 13:47
Not exactly great news.

The gringo influx is never really good for monger destinations overall.

Im sure theyre all great guys though, Lol.With gringo mongers avoiding Asia and the decline in Sosua and Rio, the influx into Colombia has only just begun.

IronQuinn
02-04-20, 14:27
Not exactly great news.

The gringo influx is never really good for monger destinations overall.

Im sure theyre all great guys though, Lol.December to March is also the high tourist season in Colombia. This may be a contributing factor.

Anthony2012
02-04-20, 15:51
Its my second time to Colombia and my friend and I had so much fun we decided to come back. Started in Medellin for 4 days and will do a second report.

We landed in Bogota yesterday. Went out to dinner with Wingman09. He is a great person and very helpful went to Santa Fe and for a Monday we saw a lot of.

Talent! Clubs were not bad and My friend and I got girls for 70 K and the girls were fun and wanted our numbers. We will be here through Thursday! Lots of well.

Armed police in Santa Fe.

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Mr Enternational
02-06-20, 16:40
Here is my question. When she was telling me about the 280, she said that one place she works charges 300K/30 min. That is when I told her that I didn't need to know about places because of free chicks. It didn't hit me til later on last night. So today I asked what place. She would not tell me exactly, but said in Zona Rosa there is some disco on 86. Does anyone know what.I arrived in from Medellin yesterday afternoon and told old girl that I was here. She said she would come at 6 and we could go to dinner. Negativo! You arrive before 6:15 and we fuck, then go eat, then come back and fuck some more. She agreed. Always fuck first guys. You don't know what the future will hold while you are out and about.

She arrived at 5:57. I was in the bed sleep so she took her clothes off and got in the bed with me. This chick was 100% my type physically. And she was just like a real damn girlfriend. It seemed we had known each other forever. We went up to Zona Rosa and ate at La Mona. I always get the ribs there. After eating we went walking around.

We passed by Colombian Pub where the happy hour drinks are 2 for 1 until 11 pm. She wanted to keep walking though. Where did she take me? La Mansion! So that is the place she said she works sometimes. All these years of reading reports of guys going there and spending all kind of money, I had a totally different idea of the place. I had always pictured some upscale house with a chandelier and red lights and plush carpets and nothing but 9's and 10's walking around in lingerie.

What I saw was a 180 from what was in my mind. At first sight the place was an obvious clip joint. It is situated in what appeared to be an old lunch cafeteria. There was an opaque glass door (same kind of door you pull open when you go into a convenience store or something) with La Mansion etched into it. (Somebody really needs to regulate the use of this mansion word.) There is a long bar from like the door until 3/4 the length of the room. And there were a few normal and below chicks sitting on a sofa. I made a bee line to a spot at the bar where I saw a menu sitting. I opened it up and saw some outrageous prices for drinks. 50,000 pesos for a shot of liquor? They had the bottle prices written all suspect. I could not tell if it was 350,000 or 850,000. I started laughing and told old girl let's get the hell out of here.

Why the hell anyone would go there when the chicks in Santa Fe look way better and are way cheaper is beyond me. Gentlemen, remember that if you go inside a place and see no locals, then get the hell out of there. Or you will be what everyone is about to feast on. I can't believe this place even exists. Then again, people are still falling for the currency exchange in airports, so why not.

We walked back over to Colombian Pub, which was starting to get lit. The bouncer said I had to pay 10,000 to get in because I was a guy. I had a trick for him though. I said I am going to pay everything with a credit card. He was like you got to pay the entrance with cash only. But I don't have cash. He went and got the waitress who took us in and sat us down. She went and got the credit card machine and tried to charge me 20,000. I said no it is free for her. Besides I will just pay it all at the end.

I got 2 for 1 mojito and my girl got 2 for 1 margaritas. I told old girl see we have 4 drinks for the price of what 1 drink costs at the rip off spot you took me to. She said yep. We were relaxing, drinking, and dancing having a great time. There were some nice women there too. She saw me looking around and said she had a feeling I would leave her for another chick that was inside the place. Most were with a dude, but there were a couple pockets of chicks in groups wilding out.

It was 11 and I needed to get up at 6 for my flight. I asked for the bill. She brought the bill. 54,000. Just as I thought, she did not add the entrance fee! My girl asked me if I wanted a trio with some chick she knew that was standing outside. I declined. I knew I probably would not even be fucking her tonight.

When we got back to the room, I went and took a shower and got in the bed. She tried to get on her Tinder but those mfs have shut her shit down! Those mfs cancel you for any damn thing. They blocked my account the year before last for reporting transvestites in the section that is supposed to be female. Don't know how she is going to make money now. I told her she could start another with another phone number and email, but she would have to use different pictures. I fell the fuck asleep.

I woke up at 6 and fucked and took a shower and got ready. After she took a shower and got dressed, I handed her the 230,000 that we agreed on. She threw it in her purse without looking at it and thanked me. I thanked her. We went downstairs to check out then she went home how ever she was going and I caught a taxi to the airport.

I asked the driver how much it would be and he said he would run the meter. Today is the day where people can't drive their own cars. They can only take public transpo and taxis and shit. Despite that, there was so much damn traffic. No wonder. They had lanes on the expressway closed for bikes. We even had to stop for the presidential motorcade. It took about an hour to get to the airport from downtown. He tallied it up and the meter said 16,500. Added on 4,500 for airport surcharge and the total was 21,000.

Cocr Brotheler
02-06-20, 19:34
My first time in Bogota, before everyone was using chipped cards, none of the ATMs I tried worked. I called my bank, I talked to someone in one of the banks. Nobody could help. Then I found a Citibank branch and it worked fine.

In Medellin, at the end of being there for a year straight, I started having ATM problems. Some ATMs I'd always used wouldn't let me withdraw. Others would only let me withdraw 400 k when before I had always taken more. Got back to the US and continued to have problems. Turned out there was a problem with the chip in my card. New card, no more problems.

If you're using USAA, you should be able to get an account with Navy Federal Credit Union. Low fees and they reimburse up to $10/ month of foreign ATM service fees. I'll let you know later this year how well they work with the various ATMs.Thanks jjb. I do have an NFCU account but no ATM. Will give them a try next trip or a local bank where I just have checking account with $ I need for the trip.

I brought $600 USD with me and in BOG went to C.C. 93 near Prague 93 and many money exchange shops there. I traded all $600 for 3250 COP/$ not bad.

JohnDarkSmith
02-06-20, 20:08
Hi guys,

I will be in Bogota (and Medellin) at the end of this month and I have a very specific question.

On my first trip there, I was hanging out, discovering a few clubs by myself, but after leaving, a taxi took me to a place I do unfortunately not remember the name or location. That is where you come into play, I would like to describe the place for you to see if it does seem like a place you know (because I would like to reach there when I will go back).

From what I remember, it was really looking like a house, a real big one, outside and inside. The main room was very large, with tables so you can seat and drink. There was a great amount of light inside (in comparison to dark clubs, it was really bright inside), seemed like there was marble, the ceiling was really high, all this giving the impression of a very luxury place. The line up there was made of around 60 beautiful women at the time I went, in 2016 I believe. I also think that it was on the north side of the city.

The atmosphere was calm, I would not say quiet, just calm.

Does anybody feels like this place remind him of somewhere?

I do thank you in advance.

JackTaggart
02-07-20, 05:43
Hello,

I have been a long time monger, but mostly skewed in the orgy / gangbang scene in various places. I was in Bogota week of January 20th and was brought to a club by a local (but one that had not spent much time in Bogota last 15 years) by Calle 96 and Carrera 14. I am not used to the streets yet, so not sure if that is the right way to refer to a cross section. It looked almost like a residential neighborhood and we were brought into what was a pretty giant club. It almost looked like the inside of the shooting scene of the movie Bad Boys for those that have seen it.

Anyways, it was my first time in Colombia or even a club like this. There were four of us and it was a business trip, so I was just going with the flow. We sat down and there were 40 mostly amazing women waiting to be picked. It was a little awkward since I didn't speak Spanish, but my colleague helped me out and I ended up using Google Translate to talk to one of the girls before agreeing to go upstairs. I wayyyyy overpaid at around 300,000 but I was there and it was the last night so I just let things happen. She was super hot though so I was a very happy man. I am looking forward to my return trip next week to compare talent in Santa Fe, but I thought the women there were stunning.

I will probably be returning back 4 times a year for a month at a time, so I am going to make an effort to learn Spanish. I am curious if anyone knows about the club I referenced above and is able to compare it to anywhere else.

Ryck II
02-07-20, 10:25
Hi guys,

I will be in Bogota (and Medellin) at the end of this month and I have a very specific question.

On my first trip there, I was hanging out, discovering a few clubs by myself, but after leaving, a taxi took me to a place I do unfortunately not remember the name or location. That is where you come into play, I would like to describe the place for you to see if it does seem like a place you know (because I would like to reach there when I will go back).

From what I remember, it was really looking like a house, a real big one, outside and inside. The main room was very large, with tables so you can seat and drink. There was a great amount of light inside (in comparison to dark clubs, it was really bright inside), seemed like there was marble, the ceiling was really high, all this giving the impression of a very luxury place. The line up there was made of around 60 beautiful women at the time I went, in 2016 I believe. I also think that it was on the north side of the city.

The atmosphere was calm, I would not say quiet, just calm.

Does anybody feels like this place remind him of somewhere?

I do thank you in advance.I think you are describing club LIDO. It is in calle 95 carrera 14. Very expensive place by the way.

Steve 9696
02-07-20, 10:32
I think you are describing club LIDO. It is in calle 95 carrera 14. Very expensive place by the way.The google reviews of Lido are horrible. I love high end clubs tho. Like Scandallo in São Paulo. Are there good alternatives to Lido? I don't mind spending more than average for a great experience.

MongerHunger
02-07-20, 11:43
Thanks jjb. I do have an NFCU account but no ATM. Will give them a try next trip or a local bank where I just have checking account with $ I need for the trip.

I brought $600 USD with me and in BOG went to C.C. 93 near Prague 93 and many money exchange shops there. I traded all $600 for 3250 COP/$ not bad.3250 COP for $600 USD?

Something is seriously wrong!

Routard
02-07-20, 13:50
The google reviews of Lido are horrible. I love high end clubs tho. Like Scandallo in So Paulo. Are there good alternatives to Lido? I don't mind spending more than average for a great experience.Try La 49, still expensive but safe area, good facilities, excellent line up, great service, relaxed atmosphere and no hassle from the staff which is what I hate most in all the other clubs as I don't drink

Woodman09
02-07-20, 16:11
Hi guys,

I will be in Bogota (and Medellin) at the end of this month and I have a very specific question.

On my first trip there, I was hanging out, discovering a few clubs by myself, but after leaving, a taxi took me to a place I do unfortunately not remember the name or location. That is where you come into play, I would like to describe the place for you to see if it does seem like a place you know (because I would like to reach there when I will go back).

From what I remember, it was really looking like a house, a real big one, outside and inside. The main room was very large, with tables so you can seat and drink. There was a great amount of light inside (in comparison to dark clubs, it was really bright inside), seemed like there was marble, the ceiling was really high, all this giving the impression of a very luxury place. The line up there was made of around 60 beautiful women at the time I went, in 2016 I believe. I also think that it was on the north side of the city.

The atmosphere was calm, I would not say quiet, just calm.

Does anybody feels like this place remind him of somewhere?

I do thank you in advance.I think this may be La Mansion which I do not know if still open, It is / was near the highway north. Past Calle 127. Don't think is Lido is more like a club and does not resemble a residence. Lido will have many beauties. Expect to spend $200-$300+.

JohnDarkSmith
02-07-20, 18:49
I think this may be La Mansion which I do not know if still open, It is / was near the highway north. Past Calle 127. Don't think is Lido is more like a club and does not resemble a residence. Lido will have many beauties. Expect to spend $200-$300+.Woodman09 and Ryck II thank you both, I will go check it might well be one of those two clubs.

Enjoy guys.

Bottom Feeder
02-07-20, 18:55
I used to bring Dollars to Colombia, Now it strictly ATM's. Usually simpler and cheap.


3250 COP for $600 USD?

Something is seriously wrong!

Mr Enternational
02-07-20, 18:58
3250 COP for $600 USD?

Something is seriously wrong!He said 3250 COP per US$. What is wrong with that?

Cocr Brotheler
02-08-20, 00:56
He said 3250 COP per US$. What is wrong with that?Yeah I little tipsy and tired when I wrote that. Indeed yo recibio 1,900,000 COP LOL!

Hobbying
02-08-20, 15:58
I think this may be La Mansion which I do not know if still open, It is / was near the highway north. Past Calle 127. Don't think is Lido is more like a club and does not resemble a residence. Lido will have many beauties. Expect to spend $200-$300+.300 USD for the girl for all nighter?

Woodman09
02-08-20, 18:51
300 USD for the girl for all nighter?Maybe, but you could find the same quality in Santa Fe for less than half of that.

Don0700
02-08-20, 19:16
Hello gentlemen,

I have a question.

What time is best to fly to Colombia?

Where to look for pretty working women?

Street women or escort?, thinking about GFE, all night.

How much do you have to spend on a pretty girl on the street?

How much do you have to spend on an escort girl?

Have you had any experience with tinder? Any impressions?

Thank you and best regards.

Woodman09
02-08-20, 19:23
I have been in Santa Fe all week. It has been pretty good even Sunday, Monday. Last night was totally off the hook. Really hot girls every where.

I was with a bunch of guys. They all were very happy getting lapdances doing quickees.

Diviant
02-08-20, 19:50
I'm almost at my trip. I'm trying out seeking arrangements. Any advice on that? What are people's experiences with that.

What I want is 1. Sex of course, preferably GFE, but it would be great to have a translator, that would travel with me to where ever. Should I expect only 1 person for both, or separate? What do I say on whatsapp? Do we make complete monetary arrangements up front? How detailed? Do I ask about GFE or even sex over whatsapp?

What can I expect to pay?

Thanks for any advice.

Diviant
02-08-20, 20:43
Going to Bogota Friday. I like GFE so I try to buy plan-be or something.

So I thought, I would ask Pharmacy questions. What contraceptives can be bought (e. G. Plan-b)? I like to stock up on stuff when I go to other countries what else can you get there that you can't get in the us. Valium like, Antibiotics (which ones), etc.

Diviant
02-09-20, 16:39
Anybody had any experience with Hotel Tequendama? What are the guest policies?

Airbnb can you get Santa Fe girls to come to an airbnb or do they only do the short time places?

JohnyV
02-09-20, 19:56
Sorry guys I was absent for a while, but I am back.

This week in Santa Fe was a little bit slow but still good, I have been with a few guys and they enjoyed their lap dances and the girls.

HotRockIt
02-09-20, 19:59
Going to Bogota Friday. I like GFE so I try to buy plan-be or something.

So I thought, I would ask Pharmacy questions. What contraceptives can be bought (e. G. Plan-b)? I like to stock up on stuff when I go to other countries what else can you get there that you can't get in the us. Valium like, Antibiotics (which ones), etc.

I don't know about Valium, but I've purchased Amoxicillin easily from the pharmacy plenty of times in Medellin. As far as Plan-B goes, I'll post a pic of the Colombian Plan-B pills. So you know, I just went up into my attic to my little hiding spot where I keep these things away from the prying eyes just so I can take this pic, your welcome lol, joking.

Pages back I read a few posts from guys who don't like condoms, I don't either, but I use them while mongering so I had to find a happy medium. And that is the Guinness World Record, thinnest condom in the world, Aoni Condoms. Ill post a pic of them too. Seriously it damn near feels like you're fucking raw. As close as your going to get at least with a rubber. Just a tip, they run a bit small being an asian condom. So the XL you see in the pics, is more like the size of a traditional USA size Durex or something. Just a little info I thought may help save a life or two on the forum LOL.

I'm a frequent Medellin traveller, but April will be my first trip to Bogota, so for the last few days I've been RTTF and getting the scoop. Hoping to link up with Woodman when I get there, going to send off the money to renew my membership today! Thanks to all who contribute valuable info, I feel well equipped with everything I need to know, and I just started reading the Bogota Reports two days ago. I will be sure to contribute when I take my trip.

Balboa
02-09-20, 20:13
I have been in Santa Fe all week. It has been pretty good even Sunday, Monday. Last night was totally off the hook. Really hot girls every where.

I was with a bunch of guys. They all were very happy getting lapdances doing quickees.I've been in Santa Fe most of the week as well, heading to Medellin now.

Definitely some hot chicas out there, there's uglies and regular types as well.

There was also a gringo walking around in a bright yellow clown suit and hat, LOL.

Looked like a total bobo, however, he seemed to be having fun.

Sunday and Monday are pretty slow.

Thurs thru Saturday are much better.

The best time IMO in Santa Fe is between 3 pm and 9 pm.

The place changes after that.

Lots of girls go home, the dudes come out to party.

It's a different atmosphere out there.

I've learned to chat up the chica I like, let her know that I'm not a 20 min Charlie, LOL.

We usually end up together for 45 min to an hour.

I chat up the motel mama, or papacito as well, pay for double time or triple time. Which will only run 10 to 15 K pesos.

Well worth it.

Then I take a look at the watch with them, so we both know the 'knock knock' time.

They will short you on time, knowingly or not, and that sucks, so I nip that beforehand.

I had a great time out there!

I befriended lots of Vennies, including street vendors, club guys, restaurant workers, the girls of course, etc.

I had 3 outstanding, total GFE sessions at a nicer motel in the area.

Cost 20 k for the hour, motel, and I paid the girl appropriately.

Fantastic.

I had several other sessions that were good, just not like the top 3.

Of course I got contact info from all of them for later hookups.

Obviously, the better your spanish ability, the better your ability to bond, build chemistry, negotiate, etc, etc.

Google translate may help some, but breaking out your cell out for longer periods is not smart, plus it just doesn't work as well as jibber jabber ability, LOL.

Enjoy!

El Bacano
02-10-20, 02:57
Guys just got back from Bogota. Very dangerous. When I was there. It appears possible gang violence, I heard many gun shots, and the girls told me rival gangs. The place was seedy, the rooms are trash and you only get 20 minute intervals, which really sucks for lack of a better term. The bars hound you, and rip you off for beers. They charged me 30 mil for a warm corona. The selection of street girls was nothing short of terrible at best. Can't wait to get back to the facebook paradise in Medellin.

LoverBoy1024
02-10-20, 03:22
Guys just got back from Bogota. Very dangerous. When I was there. It appears possible gang violence, I heard many gun shots, and the girls told me rival gangs. The place was seedy, the rooms are trash and you only get 20 minute intervals, which really sucks for lack of a better term. The bars hound you, and rip you off for beers. They charged me 30 mil for a warm corona. The selection of street girls was nothing short of terrible at best. Can't wait to get back to the facebook paradise in Medellin.Yes, please stay away guys. I understand that during the next couple weeks it's going to be especially bad. All the girls are fat, ugly and have STDs. After I leave everything should be fine though.

NeilGeorge
02-10-20, 04:30
Very dangerous. When I was there. It appears possible gang violence, I heard many gun shots, and the girls told me rival gangs. The place was seedy, the rooms are trash and you only get 20 minute intervals, which really sucks for lack of a better term. The bars hound you, and rip you off for beers.Sounds like Baltimore MD!

Ryck II
02-10-20, 05:31
Going to Bogota Friday. I like GFE so I try to buy plan-be or something.

So I thought, I would ask Pharmacy questions. What contraceptives can be bought (e. G. Plan-b)? I like to stock up on stuff when I go to other countries what else can you get there that you can't get in the us. Valium like, Antibiotics (which ones), etc.Antibiotics you can get anywhere and plan be (levonogestrel 1. 5 MG) you can also get very easily for about 4 USD if you get the generic one. There is a website called farmatodo and another one called farmalisto in which you can buy many pharmaceuticals and they will deliver to your hotel or apartment and pay on delivery. For some restricted ones like valium I am not sure if they deliver but you can try and let us know.

GMoney582
02-10-20, 05:33
Boys,

I was in Bogota in late September and fell in love with a beautiful Colombian from Troya. The plan was to get her a passport so I could fly her up to Mexico to one of my time shares. She was a sweetie who was out of place in SF. I got her out of there and back with her fam in Cucuta. Anyway maybe I'm a fool but she is such a sweet heart and I just fell hard. Been at this game for a long time and well now I'm meeting up with her in Acapulco Friday. Just throwing out this post to show the possibilities. Acapulco thread seems dead but a Colombian import will make my week.

Iguana Six
02-10-20, 05:53
Pages back I read a few posts from guys who don't like condoms, I don't either, but I use them while mongering so I had to find a happy medium.
.Try the Reality brand FC-2 female condom. You will not go back to the other condoms after you do.

El Bacano
02-10-20, 12:57
Guys just got back from Bogota. Very dangerous. When I was there. It appears possible gang violence, I heard many gun shots, and the girls told me rival gangs. The place was seedy, the rooms are trash and you only get 20 minute intervals, which really sucks for lack of a better term. The bars hound you, and rip you off for beers. They charged me 30 mil for a warm corona. The selection of street girls was nothing short of terrible at best. Can't wait to get back to the facebook paradise in Medellin.

Christian G
02-10-20, 13:08
Guys just got back from Bogota. Very dangerous. When I was there. It appears possible gang violence, I heard many gun shots, and the girls told me rival gangs. The place was seedy, the rooms are trash and you only get 20 minute intervals, which really sucks for lack of a better term. The bars hound you, and rip you off for beers. They charged me 30 mil for a warm corona. The selection of street girls was nothing short of terrible at best. Can't wait to get back to the facebook paradise in Medellin.What's the point of writing the same message twice?

Diviant
02-10-20, 14:36
Antibiotics you can get anywhere and plan be (levonogestrel 1. 5 MG) you can also get very easily for about 4 USD if you get the generic one. There is a website called farmatodo and another one called farmalisto in which you can buy many pharmaceuticals and they will deliver to your hotel or apartment and pay on delivery. For some restricted ones like valium I am not sure if they deliver but you can try and let us know.Thank you! I'll check them out.

(Thank everyone HotRockIt, Ryck II, Iguana Six and everyone else).

I'd still really like to hear some SA advice / whatsapp what to negotiate and where and how to negotiate broach GFE?

Also, anyone has had experience with Hotel Tequendama, in general, and with respect to guest.

Elvis 2008
02-10-20, 21:57
I have tried that twice and it failed both times. Once Colombia wouldn't let the woman leave. The second time the Colombian made it to Mexico, but she was held up in Mexico City, put into a customs type jail, had her shoes stolen, luggage broken into, and she was sent back two days later.

If you think Mexicans are treated rough in the USA, you should see how the Mexicans treat South Americans.

The Mexicans assume that any single, young attractive South American woman is coming to Mexico to prostitute themselves. You have to give her enough money to show that she is going to spend it in Mexico, which is a huge risk, and maybe you can work something out that she has some sort of job back in Colombia, family ETC to show the Mexicans that she isn't planning to stay, but that is another huge risk. I would bet you a $100 if you go through with this plan that you will find yourself alone and depressed.

If you look on twitter, you will see Colombian and Venezuelans escorts all over Mexico. Juan Carter, who knows more about this than I ever would as he is king of Mexico City, has stated that all these women are trafficked by the cartels. You can check out labotique and Twitter to find women available in Acapulco and throughout Mexico. I have heard that Mexican customs can be bribed. I should have asked the South American escorts I saw from Twitter how they got in, but I didn't. If you want a Colombian woman in Mexico, I would look to Twitter and Labotique and forget about importing any in.

And don't fool yourself. This isn't just me. Another guy on here complained about the same thing, and it failed. He tried to import four women into Mexico, and he was told for $4000, the least attractive of the four he brought in could come. He balked at that, and all four women were sent back.

I don't know about other places. Mexico would have been by far the most convenient for me, but I am going to be looking at other intermediate spots probably in the Caribbean. I don't think those countries are as worried about Colombians staying and living there, but I could be wrong.

For you, though, Gmoney, I would recommend that you take your woman to San Andreas if you have the time. You would have to connect through Panama or Colombia so it is a price you have to pay time wise, but her plane ticket will be much less, and you won't have any visa issues with her as San Andreas, though close to Nicaragua, is owned by Colombia.

And by the way, she isn't out of place. You are just thinking that it is not normal to find someone so sweet working a strip club, and it is somewhat normal to find that in Colombia. I think the average streetwalker in Santa Fe puts more effort into the sexual act than all but the highest paid escorts in North America.


Boys,

I was in Bogota in late September and fell in love with a beautiful Colombian from Troya. The plan was to get her a passport so I could fly her up to Mexico to one of my time shares. She was a sweetie who was out of place in SF. I got her out of there and back with her fam in Cucuta. Anyway maybe I'm a fool but she is such a sweet heart and I just fell hard. Been at this game for a long time and well now I'm meeting up with her in Acapulco Friday. Just throwing out this post to show the possibilities. Acapulco thread seems dead but a Colombian import will make my week.

IronQuinn
02-10-20, 22:23
Anyway maybe I'm a fool but she is such a sweet heart and I just fell hard.Yup, that pretty much says it all. Don't be another white knight with money to blow by trying to pick a girl up out of the gutter to "save" her from the streets. Look, I'm sure you're a nice guy with good intentions, but I'm telling you man, this will backfire on you. Do yourself a favor, and listen to this clip and take it to heart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIFcqCc2B6U

HotRockIt
02-10-20, 23:35
I have tried that twice and it failed both times. Once Colombia wouldn't let the woman leave. The second time the Colombian made it to Mexico, but she was held up in Mexico City, put into a customs type jail, had her shoes stolen, luggage broken into, and she was sent back two days later.

If you think Mexicans are treated rough in the USA, you should see how the Mexicans treat South Americans.

The Mexicans assume that any single, young attractive South American woman is coming to Mexico to prostitute themselves. You have to give her enough money to show that she is going to spend it in Mexico, which is a huge risk, and maybe you can work something out that she has some sort of job back in Colombia, family ETC to show the Mexicans that she isn't planning to stay, but that is another huge risk. I would bet you a $100 if you go through with this plan that you will find yourself alone and depressed.

That sucks, I took a chica I've been dealing with for awhile to Cancun and Playa Del Carmen last year and we didn't have any problems. I flew to Medellin, then we flew to Cancun together, then back to Medellin for a few more days of solo fun, then I went back to the USA. Not sure if we didn't have any problems just because I was with her and I was obviously a tourist, and they just assumed she was good cause she was with a gringo or what? But it was a breeze, no different from any trip I've ever taken thru customs to go somewhere. No problems for both of us. But I have heard of things going bad, and I was definitely worried something might go wrong and ruin the trip, and waste a bunch of money LOL.

Elvis 2008
02-11-20, 00:03
That sucks, I took a chica I've been dealing with for awhile to Cancun and Playa Del Carmen last year and we didn't have any problems. I flew to Medellin, then we flew to Cancun together, then back to Medellin for a few more days of solo fun, then I went back to the USA. Not sure if we didn't have any problems just because I was with her and I was obviously a tourist, and they just assumed she was good cause she was with a gringo or what?Hotrock, I think your going with her was huge. Also, Cancun seems to be much less of a problem than Mexico City.

JjBee62
02-11-20, 01:15
Hotrock, I think your going with her was huge. Also, Cancun seems to be much less of a problem than Mexico City.My 2 cents is to keep the Colombianas in Colombia. There are many incredible places to visit and see, without dealing with another country's immigration system. Places most of these women will never see. San Andres is just one example. Take her to an ecohab in Parque Tayrona, or to Escobar's old hotel in Bahia Solano. Take her down to Leticia, if you can handle the heat and humidity.

Depending on your age and fitness level, there's dozens of options. If you really want to splurge, take her to Europe. Less hassle, more options.

I think you're correct, it's much better to take her somewhere than to have her meet you somewhere.

Also, I agree about Juan Carter and CDMX. He's an encyclopedia and very happy to help.

Woodman09
02-11-20, 02:20
Guys just got back from Bogota. Very dangerous. When I was there. It appears possible gang violence, I heard many gun shots, and the girls told me rival gangs. The place was seedy, the rooms are trash and you only get 20 minute intervals, which really sucks for lack of a better term. The bars hound you, and rip you off for beers. They charged me 30 mil for a warm corona. The selection of street girls was nothing short of terrible at best. Can't wait to get back to the facebook paradise in Medellin.You Sound like a Medellin Mansion Schill who really does not know what he is talking about.

JonSnow1
02-11-20, 02:55
Boys,

I was in Bogota in late September and fell in love with a beautiful Colombian from Troya. The plan was to get her a passport so I could fly her up to Mexico to one of my time shares. She was a sweetie who was out of place in SF. I got her out of there and back with her fam in Cucuta. Anyway maybe I'm a fool but she is such a sweet heart and I just fell hard. Been at this game for a long time and well now I'm meeting up with her in Acapulco Friday. Just throwing out this post to show the possibilities. Acapulco thread seems dead but a Colombian import will make my week.Believe I met her! Think her name was Katerina, short with a cute face and a booty. Definitely remember her being from Cucuta. Anyhow, I know a few Colombianas that made it to Mexico for a vacation without any problems. One of them stayed there and works as a sugarbaby on SA. Hope it works out for you.

Ryck II
02-11-20, 20:27
Thank you! I'll check them out.

(Thank everyone HotRockIt, Ryck II, Iguana Six and everyone else).

I'd still really like to hear some SA advice / whatsapp what to negotiate and where and how to negotiate broach GFE?

Also, anyone has had experience with Hotel Tequendama, in general, and with respect to guest.Tequendama used to be a really nice hotel when I was managed by the Intercontinental Hotel Chain, in the 90's it became Tequendama Crown Plaza and was still ok. Since the building actually belongs to the government and for some reason the deal with Intercontinental was ended, now is handled like an independent hotel. All this to say that it may not have the same quality it used to have. Rumor has it that the deal ended because Intercontinental requested a major refurbishing and government declined to pay for it. With respect to guests, hotels require guests to leave before 11 and to leave an ID in the reception. If they want to stay all night most probably a guest surcharge will be applied.

Diviant
02-11-20, 23:04
Tequendama used to be a really nice hotel when I was managed by the Intercontinental Hotel Chain, in the 90's it became Tequendama Crown Plaza and was still ok. Since the building actually belongs to the government and for some reason the deal with Intercontinental was ended, now is handled like an independent hotel. All this to say that it may not have the same quality it used to have. Rumor has it that the deal ended because Intercontinental requested a major refurbishing and government declined to pay for it. With respect to guests, hotels require guests to leave before 11 and to leave an ID in the reception. If they want to stay all night most probably a guest surcharge will be applied.Thanks. Interesting, well I got a backup AirBnb. I've never used it before so, it might be an alternative. I'll check into the hotel then next day at the Airbnb and see what's what.

Well SA seems to be going well. Have a bunch in my phone. I'm thinking most of them are just pros but not a huge problem. I only have one that can speak English, I'll check and see if she'll do guide and more. I haven't tried negotiating yet. I obviously don't have the extra money some of you guys do. Flying girls with you. Wow. If the ones I'm talking to expect that then they'll be very unhappy.

Any negotiating tips would be welcome. I read on this from someone that he meet them at the hotel for dinner or drinks then after, basically paid what he thought. I'd be scared they would demand allot, if I did that.