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Showdown

10-24-20, 17:13

Sooooo, I bypass the Wine and Dine part of seeking arrangement. I message them and I tell them I only want casual sex, BBFS. I take Prep 20 days before I go and Doxiciclina a day or 2 before I go back home to my girl. I probably messaged 75 girls. 70% said yes, and 30% said no. I pay between 200 mil to 300 mil. 2 girls a day in 6 days, sometimes 3 a day.

Conversation usually goes like this:

Hola bebe.

Hola, como estas.

Estoy genial.

I will be in Bogota and I would love to see you if we can come to agreement.

Yes, that would be great, what type of arrangement you think.

200 mil, sin condom, and I have vasectomy, etc.

Why sin condom?

Hard to leche with condom and erection goes down.

Okay, I understand, can you do 250 mil.

Sure I can.

This is me, I know its not for everyone, but if I'm going to pay, its going to be on my terms.

Also, building chemistry is great, if that's what you are into, it does make the sex better, but I try to bypass all the wine and dine and it has worked. We do converse once they get to my Airbnb.

Also. For the people saying why don't you just get a Prepagos or Milterios if you are not going to spend money on them. Surprisingly, I get more No's from the Prepagos for what I'm asking for. Except my regular, who I see every time I come to Bogota.

This has been my experience. I may go to Sante fe for the cheap cheap, but I prefer this.

Here are some pics.

If you want numbers or names, inbox me.I'd love to use Seeking Arrangements but I refuse to pay $100. Tinder has not worked well for me. Surprisingly Bumble has but most of the women are 30 years old +.

Gazely

10-24-20, 18:34

I would be interested in knowing if any of you guys have met a SA morena, age 23-24 named Paula? Considering a SB scenario and curious about her mileage. Feel free to PM.

Woodman09

10-24-20, 19:19

I'd love to use Seeking Arrangements but I refuse to pay $100. Tinder has not worked well for me. Surprisingly Bumble has but most of the women are 30 years old +.In Bogota-- a lot of guys I know have had good results with Tinder. Me, I'm too lazy for Tinder.

Mr Enternational

10-24-20, 20:13

Sooooo, I bypass the Wine and Dine part of seeking arrangement. I message them and I tell them I only want casual sex, BBFS. I probably messaged 75 girls. 70% said yes, and 30% said no. I pay between 200 mil to 300 mil. 2 girls a day in 6 days, sometimes 3 a day.
LOL. Smart man. No idea why some other cats waste their time and money on that site trying to butter up chicks that are evidently hookers. Gets to be an expensive fantasy imagining chicks are not hookers when they obviously are. I wonder what your stats would be if you did not require BB. 99.99% I presume.

Showdown

10-24-20, 22:57

Anyone know of a nice spa where you can sit and relax in a FKK type environement?

ALso what about a manicure / pedicure place? I had some great experiences (non sexual) in Thailand going to those places. Four women working on your hands and feet at once. I always like the scene in Rush Hour when Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan went to a spa LOL.

Jrealyo

10-24-20, 23:08

Funny you say that, definitely would have been 99.9% if I didn't have special requirements, LOL. But that damn condom Fucks me up mentally, I can't cum and erection goes down. I'm guessing because I'm with someone and we don't use one.

LOL. Smart man. No idea why some other cats waste their time and money on that site trying to butter up chicks that are evidently hookers. Gets to be an expensive fantasy imagining chicks are not hookers when they obviously are. I wonder what your stats would be if you did not require BB. 99.99% I presume.

JjBee62

10-25-20, 01:02

I would be interested in knowing if any of you guys have met a SA morena, age 23-24 named Paula? Considering a SB scenario and curious about her mileage. Feel free to PM.I'm certain she's a virgin who will be 100% faithful to you while you are sending her money from another country. You have nothing to worry about.

JjBee62

10-25-20, 01:04

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:05

Glad, most of you guys share my opinion. It's only common sense.

I like this video. It's honest and no hype. Why You Won't Beat Multiple Opponents Martial Arts Explored.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDRR3jpNK_wMy RL experience calls bullshit on this. Aikido has saved my life 3 times on the street.

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:07

I went to a few clubs yesterday. Fiebre, and one next door to paisa. Also went to la 49 (closed) and pussy house (it looked closed but someone popped out and stopped us as we where leaving). There line up is miles away from lidos. Miles. No taxi knew about Olimpos.Confirming Fiebre and a couple other small joints in SF are open. PH is also open but there's a plastic screen over the runway and they're selling empanadas now. There is still FS according to the wait staff, but you have to go outside and back in another door now.

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:09

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:13

Not looking for beef, and I just want to provide some firsthand info. I've been using Schwab internationally (including Colombia) for over a decade now. They always reimburse my ATM fees at the end of the month.

Schwab also gave me money when I was stranded abroad. Not a loan. Nothing needed to be paid back. They simply helped out a longtime customer and gave me a sizable amount of cash.Yeah they are a class act. Best financial institution ever in history! Had a similar situation with them, they just gave me money, although in my case it was only $15.

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:16

1. From what I understand Uber no longer works in Bogota. So does that mean I need to use the Easy Taxi or Cabify apps that have been discussed? Do these apps work like Uber? I like taking a taxi most of the time as I find it inexpensive. Uber works fine, I use it almost every day. Your options here in Bogota are Uber, Beat, Picap (they come on a motorbike! Cabify (EZ Taxi has been absorbed by them), InDriver (you negotiate with the driver) and DiDi (I never use because they are connected to the CCP). I have Uber Beat and Picap on my phone.

I personally don't recommend yellow taxis at all. The 50% best drivers of taxis are now working on the other apps. The ones that are left are all the problem children.

I personally don't take taxis even to or from the airport, despite the hassle. Be advised that you will probably have to meet Uber in the parking lot coming from, if you have lots of luggage, it can be a pain.

Also, for fastest service, set your Uber payment options to cash when in Colombia. Colombians don't like to deal electronically.

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:21

3. I have always been fascinated by the Choco region. It is supposedly the most impovereished part of Colombia and the majority of people there are black. In this vein are their any black girls working the streets in Santa Fe? I'd love to find one from Choco.

Should be no problem, saw lots of girls from Pacific coast recently, Chocó, Valle, Nariño etc. Especially on the carreras between cll 22-23.

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:25

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6. Where can I get the small bills necessary to pay exact?

Showdown.Keep paying with big bills and INSISTING you don't have change. Make them run around for it. Keep hiding your small change until you have a stack of it. If they see it they will make you use it to pay. This is war here, you understand? LOL.

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:27

7. I've got a thing for preggos or lactating girls. Are they to be found among the Santa Fe SW's? One board member in Medellin connected me with a girl there and although I won't being her down she keeps sending me videos of her pumping glasses full of milk in an effort to get me to bring her to Bogota. I'll post some pics and videos she sent.
Showdown.This used to be a lot easier, and I went through a whole phase of this. Helps if your Spanish is good. Go to SF and ask. Venezuelan chiccs actually get MEMED here in Colombia for always bring preg, no joke.

The other option is to poke around on mileroticos, photoprepagos, and skokka. You have to know how to sift thru the fake adds though.

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:28

8. If I want to leave Santa Fe at night where is the best place to use the taxi apps to get a taxi? Everything I read says Uber and others will not come to Santa Fe.
Showdown.Absolutely false. I got picked up there just a few days ago.

ESPECIALLY avoid yellow taxis leaving SF. They almost always try to invent a nonexistent surcharge.

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:29

9. How are you guys cleaning yourselves up between girls? Many reports say the rooms have no running water. Are you using baby wipes?

Showdown.Some rooms have showers, depending on the residencia in question. But any monger worth his salt always carries wipes anyways.

Bango Cheito

10-25-20, 05:44

Mr Enternational

10-25-20, 06:15

Uber works fine, I use it almost every day.I used Uber coming from the airport tonight. He was actually in the far driveway from the door and not in the parking lot. They have a bunch of doors blocked off at the airport. People coming to meet you can not come inside and you can only exit out of door 3 I think it is. Old girl that came to meet me arrived early and had to wait outside.

Back to Uber. There was an Uber Ya for like 25,000 going downtown, then there was an Uber Flash for 14,000. I chose Uber Flash. The driver picked me up and he was like Flash is to deliver packages and shit; a courier service. He told me to change it in the app but I did not see how to do it. When we arrived at the hotel the app charged me 7,000 and I gave him 20,000 in cash.

But it was funny on the way because I had told this chick 1000 times that I would stay downtown. So in the car she asked again. WTF. Then talking to the driver she asked if it was where there are a bunch of naked ladies in the street. The driver said no. That is a little ways from where he is staying. I tried to sound shocked and said NAKED LADIES IN THE STREET? I want to go there! Knowing good and well they are talking about Santa Fe and that my hotel is only 2 blocks from there. In the room I kept looking out the window at the transmilenio and saying where are those naked ladies you promised me? I do not see them.

She kept saying she was hungry. So we fucked first then headed out to eat. She was scared to come and said lets just order a pizza. I said bring your ass on. She kept stopping at intervals saying she was going back to the hotel. I just kept walking and let her catch up later. Dealing with this damn nonsense.

I passed by my barbershop but they were closing up. It was 9:30 pm. I asked the barber if they would be open tomorrow and he said 9 am. We kept walking and there were plenty of people out but there was nothing open on Calle 19. Got to Carrera 6 and took a left and there were a couple of places open. We went to Rosh Irish Bar (receipt says Arcangel Cofee And Drinks but window said Rosh) and had some drinks. She got chicken nuggets and I got bbq wings. The total was 97,000 for the food, 4 drinks and tip.

Old girl was drunk and would not stop talking. Walking back to the hotel she was not nearly scared as she was on the way. I noticed one of my favorite restaurants Sabor del Pacifico is no longer on Calle 20. Where the hell am I going to get my fish now? This makes me want to cry. She is passed out sleep now.

Showdown

10-25-20, 09:46

Strolled through the whole top half of SF a few days ago while I was downtown after doing some errands.

Had a tasty Venezuelan style shawerma at a place on Cra 14 a between 23 and 24. Great sauces. The whole neighborhood now is 99% Ven.

The whole place has a weird vibe because so many of the clubs are closed. It's much more chaotic and there were way too many obviously under 18 girls for my liking. Some blocks looked like the damn movie set of "Cuties". Caveat emptor. Honestly I personally wouldn't recommend for many reasons, but if you decide to go for it, try and get some ID first (good luck with that!) or better yet, wait till the clubs are back in full swing. Be careful and stay frosty out there.

Popped into Fiebre. They didn't have the plastic screen on the stage like PH did but there was literally only one fully clothed frumpy bored looking girl there so I left immediately.

I'm pretty much in hiatus right now because I've got a very very horny and sexy GF, so didn't sample anything, also there are the reasons mentioned above. YMMV.Outside of some ladies being forced / pimped this underage thing is the worst part about mongering. Why in the hell are the police allowing this? They seem to be keen to everything else but they see an underage girl selling her wares and they do nothing. Damn shame.

And any Americans on the board need to know this-it is now a federal CRIME to go to another country and have relations with underage children. https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/extraterritorial-sexual-exploitation-children.

Showdown.

Showdown

10-25-20, 09:49

Some rooms have showers, depending on the residencia in question. But any monger worth his salt always carries wipes anyways.I picked up some of these unscented baby wipes. https://www.amazon.com/Huggies-Bundle-Natural-Unscented-Travel/dp/B00SC6KYLO.

Still nothing beats soap and water.

Showdown.

Showdown

10-25-20, 09:52

This used to be a lot easier, and I went through a whole phase of this. Helps if your Spanish is good. Go to SF and ask. Venezuelan chiccs actually get MEMED here in Colombia for always bring preg, no joke.

The other option is to poke around on mileroticos, photoprepagos, and skokka. You have to know how to sift thru the fake adds though.What is the link to Skokka?

And from what I have been told by a few board members their are preggos in Santa Fe. We shall see.

Showdown.

Forever18

10-25-20, 13:50

Forever18

10-25-20, 13:51

I should be there December 6. Maybe a week sooner. BIG problem, I have too many SA girls blowing up my phone. Tying to figure out how to interview as many as possible. (thinking of finding some way to feed them all at a restaurant or? To cover their visit / time, LOL) Already going to stay 3 weeks instead of one. And 2 cities, adding Medellin! Seems complicated with the tracking app. In 5 weeks everything could be a lot different. Woodman? Going to need ya.How much does the girls quote you and for how long?

Mr Enternational

10-25-20, 14:09

Age of Consent vs Age of Majority

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Greetings Gentlemen,

The Age of Consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory rape.

However, the Age of Consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

What you need to focus on is the Age of Majority, which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

Please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

Thanks,

Admin

Mr Enternational

10-25-20, 14:52

I have always enjoyed your wisdom and knowledge on many issues.

But sorry Mr E. This is your opinion and your opinion alone.

Regardless of the circumstances a grown man engaging in relations with an underage girl is wrong. Whether she has to eat or not you are doing something that is morally and legally wrong. Period. You can split hairs all day long with the grey areas of definitions of a minor all you want but just because you CAN have relations with an underage girl and you can find lots of them in your state is irregardless as far as I am concerned. It's wrong.LOL. But my entire point was that what law holds in one place is not necessarily the same in another place. If you are bent out of shape over Place A having a different law than Place B, then you would need to get the citizens of Place B to take that up with their government. I don't see how you can judge someone for following the law.

I believe the speed limit should always be 55 mph. I am not going to preach how the places that have a speed limit that is 65 mph are wrong regardless. The citizens of that place decide what is best for where they live by electing representation that will put certain laws in place. Don't get mad at the person driving the car because he is following the laws that are in place. A courtroom is no place for emotions; a courtroom is to decide if something outside of the law was done. If you are working within the confines of the law then nobody should have shit to say. People are expected to follow what the laws are, not what some people think the laws should be.

Showdown

10-25-20, 15:35

LOL. But my entire point was that what law holds in one place is not necessarily the same in another place. If you are bent out of shape over Place A having a different law than Place B, then you would need to get the citizens of Place B to take that up with their government. I don't see how you can judge someone for following the law.

I believe the speed limit should always be 55 mph. I am not going to preach how the places that have a speed limit that is 65 mph are wrong regardless. The citizens of that place decide what is best for where they live by electing representation that will put certain laws in place. Don't get mad at the person driving the car because he is following the laws that are in place. A courtroom is no place for emotions; a courtroom is to decide if something outside of the law was done. If you are working within the confines of the law then nobody should have shit to say. People are expected to follow what the laws are, not what some people think the laws should be.What the hell is so funny? Funny how you decided to highlight one paragraph of my entire post and you omitted the section about how my relative was selling herself.

And HUMAN BEINGS are not cars. You may be king of the monger world on this board but I am the legal expert here. So let me school you about your incorrect statement that "a courtroom is no place for emotions".

Emotions are intertwined with any human enterprise, particularly decision-making. Despite a juror's honest attempt to not be swayed by emotion, some cases can be emotionally draining or attorneys rightfully elicit emotional reactions from jury members. As such, when selecting a jury, it is important to consider individual differences in how one manages and uses one's emotions when making decisions.

I need to close on this subject with you Mr. E. I don't find it funny and its a sensitive to me and millions of other men and women who've had very young women in their families affected by this.

So I'll just stick to discussions about women 18 years and older in this hobby.

Showdown.

Mr Enternational

10-25-20, 15:51

What the hell is so funny? Funny how you decided to highlight one paragraph of my entire post and you omitted the section about how my relative was selling herself.It was funny because you are missing the issue. I omitted because that was not a part of your statement that I was commenting on. I was commenting that if someone is doing something legal then I have no problem with it, while you said we should go on feelings and not law.

I need to close on this subject with you Mr. E. I don't find it funny and its a sensitive to me and millions of other men and women who've had very young women in their families affected by this.People are always going to be sensitive about something. There are millions of people sensitive about you coming to Colombia to monger and exploit people in need. I take it you will change your trip plans because of that. Prostitution is legal here, but you need to take those people who are sensitive on the issue feelings into account, especially when it is not legal in your country.

You are coming here to do something that is not legal in your country, but let your feelings take over and condemn when other people are doing something that is actually legal where they live. That is outside of the realm of my understanding.

Elvis 2008

10-25-20, 17:13

LOL. Smart man. No idea why some other cats waste their time and money on that site trying to butter up chicks that are evidently hookers. Gets to be an expensive fantasy imagining chicks are not hookers when they obviously are. I wonder what your stats would be if you did not require BB. 99.99% I presume.This is like the 3rd time you have been complaining about seeking.com. DonCarlos said 30% of the women turn him down. That sounds pretty close to what I have seen.

Whenever a woman mentions an arrangement, code name for a fee and a strictly P4 P situation, I head for the hills unless she is really hot. Then I may do an escort thing. I pay about the same as Don Carlos does for the escort thing.

As for 99.99% being hookers, that depends on your definition, a woman who fucks all guys, you can forget about it. A woman willing to fuck a guy or two and not feel like a ****, that is almost all of them.

You are a $10 to $20 kind of guy only interested in what is between a woman's legs. When I get a woman on seeking, I am not looking for an ordinary girl. I get well educated or well to do. I get beauty queens, models, professionals.

This is the tag line of the woman I called my super model: Miss Teen Venezuela World Star Model.

Miss Venezuela Caribbean international.

Modelo en la fashion week cartagena Colombia.

Actriz principal obra de teatro "PLAN be" - Venezuela.

Modelo e imagen de diversas marcas Rolex-World Golf Championships (Mexico), Nike (Chile), FOREVER21 (panama), Chilevision (Chile), CMB (consejo mundial de boxeo), Porshe (Panama), F1 (Gran premio de mexico 2017) entre muchas otras.

So you can say that is all bullshit, and I could care less. She is smoking hot and great in the sack.

This is the girl on the boat that you said that you did not want so quit complaining about guys that do want a woman like this. We are not a threat to what you want.

As for why, I keep telling you this but you do not get it. I am interested in going on multi day vacations with these women, and I pay them nothing but expenses. With an American woman, I am looking at thousands. Sure you can go to Cancun or Santa Marta or San Andreas and find something but you are not going to find a woman like this.

And as I keep saying, I often pay nothing. I met a law student from Villavencio I flew to Bogota. I gave her $200 and she tried to give me the money back.

The best woman I had in Medellin would be insulted if I paid her like a hooker.

I am looking for long term relationships on seeking.com not a quick fuck although I do sometimes like and get that. This is not what you are after and I get that, but I do not think you get us. You are fishing in a different pond.

Mr Enternational

10-25-20, 18:49

Don't remember where I met this chick but her number was in my phone. Last week she had told me that she lived with 3 other chicks. But later asks me to borrow $200 because the landlord is coming to collect at 3 pm. I told her okay but I stopped answering her messages after that. A miracle must have happened because when I talked to her today she did not say anything about getting put out.

She did though ask to come see me. Price 250K for 1 hour or 300K for all night. When I didn't answer she said I understand you do not like me. I said I don't like 250K. She said okay well 200K but you pay my Uber. Uber is 6500 each way to her house. I definitely will not be paying a chick 200K for 1 hour, but was comtemplating talking her down on the all night deal. For now I am about to take the 2 blocks walk to Santa Fe.

Mr Enternational

10-25-20, 23:02

Just had a good ass time down in Santa Fe. I took 200K and fucked around and ran out of money and had to come back to the room. Barely had 3K left to get me a piece of chicken on my way out of there. There were so many bad chicks that I almost had a wreck, and I was on foot. I don't know if there are any Colombians left. All I see is wall to wall Venezuelans. Chicks wanted 36K to 40K. None of the clubs were open and my favorite Santa Fe restaurant was also not open.

This was some of the best weather that I have seen in Bogota. I left out with a jacket on, but eventually had to take it off and put it in my bag. While I was fucking one chick I heard some noise. I looked outside and it was damn raining. This is the first time I didn't bring my umbrella down there because it was sunny skies. Sorry to bring this issue into the thread, but I witnessed something I have never seen in Bogota. Many guys had on shorts! 98% of the people were wearing masks as well.

I had passed a barber earlier and he said man you need to come let me cut you up. He said only 10K. I told him that I would be back later. Side tracked with all the chicks and it took me a while to get back. When I finished with the chick while it was raining was the perfect time. I ran over there with my jacket covering my head. I was passed out in the chair. Dude cut my hair so good that if I had another 10K in my pocket I would have circled the block and come back and let him cut it again. His name is Enrique and the shop is caddy corner to Santa Fe Suite. It is directly next door to Tenedores PPP. It does not have a name. He is the 2nd chair from the door.

Getting some money from the room and took a quick shower, now I am about to head back down to get my nails done and get some more pussy. I may be dried out by the time I get to Barranquilla tomorrow.

Rambo95

10-26-20, 04:13

She is lovely sexy pretty. You must go with her. Love her.

Don't remember where I met this chick but her number was in my phone. Last week she had told me that she lived with 3 other chicks. But later asks me to borrow $200 because the landlord is coming to collect at 3 pm. I told her okay but I stopped answering her messages after that. A miracle must have happened because when I talked to her today she did not say anything about getting put out.

She did though ask to come see me. Price 250K for 1 hour or 300K for all night. When I didn't answer she said I understand you do not like me. I said I don't like 250K. She said okay well 200K but you pay my Uber. Uber is 6500 each way to her house. I definitely will not be paying a chick 200K for 1 hour, but was comtemplating talking her down on the all night deal. For now I am about to take the 2 blocks walk to Santa Fe.

Mr Enternational

10-26-20, 04:40

This is like the 3rd time you have been complaining about seeking.com. DonCarlos said 30% of the women turn him down. That sounds pretty close to what I have seen.I never complained about SA. All I did was say all the chicks on there are hookers. And he confirmed it. Maybe you did not finish reading. Upfront he offered 100% of the women money for bareback. The 30% that turned him down was because they did not want to do bareback, not because they were not accepting money for sex as you are asserting. Had he not demanded bareback that 30% would have instantly been on his train like the other 70%. The girls on there know how to play the game. They can take it slow for someone that believes he is getting something special. And they can spread legs at the drop of a hat for someone like DC that knows how to cut to the chase.

JjBee62

10-26-20, 05:25

She is lovely sexy pretty. You must go with her. Love her.Why go with her for 200k when he's probably finding just as good for 50k?

TopoChico571

10-26-20, 06:42

How strict are masks in Bogota? Do you have to wear them anywhere in public (like walking down the street)? Also, is it pretty safe to stay near la zona in Santa Fe? Thanks.

Sangnyc21

10-26-20, 06:46

This is like the 3rd time you have been complaining about seeking.com. DonCarlos said 30% of the women turn him down. That sounds pretty close to what I have seen.

Whenever a woman mentions an arrangement, code name for a fee and a strictly P4 P situation, I head for the hills unless she is really hot. Then I may do an escort thing. I pay about the same as Don Carlos does for the escort thing.

As for 99.99% being hookers, that depends on your definition, a woman who fucks all guys, you can forget about it. A woman willing to fuck a guy or two and not feel like a ****, that is almost all of them.

You are a $10 to $20 kind of guy only interested in what is between a woman's legs. When I get a woman on seeking, I am not looking for an ordinary girl. I get well educated or well to do. I get beauty queens, models, professionals.

This is the tag line of the woman I called my super model: Miss Teen Venezuela World Star Model.

Miss Venezuela Caribbean international.

Modelo en la fashion week cartagena Colombia.

Actriz principal obra de teatro "PLAN be" - Venezuela.

Modelo e imagen de diversas marcas Rolex-World Golf Championships (Mexico), Nike (Chile), FOREVER21 (panama), Chilevision (Chile), CMB (consejo mundial de boxeo), Porshe (Panama), F1 (Gran premio de mexico 2017) entre muchas otras.

So you can say that is all bullshit, and I could care less. She is smoking hot and great in the sack.

This is the girl on the boat that you said that you did not want so quit complaining about guys that do want a woman like this. We are not a threat to what you want.

As for why, I keep telling you this but you do not get it. I am interested in going on multi day vacations with these women, and I pay them nothing but expenses. With an American woman, I am looking at thousands. Sure you can go to Cancun or Santa Marta or San Andreas and find something but you are not going to find a woman like this.

And as I keep saying, I often pay nothing. I met a law student from Villavencio I flew to Bogota. I gave her $200 and she tried to give me the money back.

The best woman I had in Medellin would be insulted if I paid her like a hooker.

I am looking for long term relationships on seeking.com not a quick fuck although I do sometimes like and get that. This is not what you are after and I get that, but I do not think you get us. You are fishing in a different pond.You're looking for long term relationships on seeking which is a site for sugar daddies?

And you don't pay nothing but expenses?? You don't think they're in it for the long run for strictly financial purposes??

I have been on seeking and I've met a couple girls where I actually didn't pay for sex but I'm not naive enough to believe that they aren't in it for financial purposes.

You're asking to get taken for a long con or just a string of heartbreaks.

I'm just being honest with you.

I tell you this because it seems like money doesn't matter for you or you seem to have the more expensive taste.

I am the same way and I will pay whatever it takes for my comfort and enjoy myself.

I can relate to what you're saying and while your chances are better in Bogotá of finding this. It's still rare.

ALL girls are on seeking for financial purposes. Whether it be a hooker or wanting to date a rich guy it's all about the $$. To think otherwise is extremely naive.

Routard

10-26-20, 13:17

How strict are masks in Bogota? Do you have to wear them anywhere in public (like walking down the street)? Also, is it pretty safe to stay near la zona in Santa Fe? Thanks.Mask are mandatory everywhere. The area around Santa Fe is the ugliest part of the city, weird people in the street and yes crime is high of course in Centro. If it is your first trip to Bogota, I would advice to stay in a more confortable place of the city and go to Santa Fe by taxi. Once you know Santa Fe, it is up to you if it is acceptable for you to stay in the neighborhood.

LatinaLover#1

10-26-20, 16:22

JjBee62

10-26-20, 16:25

Mask are mandatory everywhere. The area around Santa Fe is the ugliest part of the city, weird people in the street and yes crime is high of course in Centro. If it is your first trip to Bogota, I would advice to stay in a more confortable place of the city and go to Santa Fe by taxi. Once you know Santa Fe, it is up to you if it is acceptable for you to stay in the neighborhood.That is excellent advice.

Some guys are immediately comfortable with areas like Santa Fe or El Centro in Medellin. Others take awhile before they can walk the areas comfortably. Some never can get over their fear.

I've talked with several guys, on their first trip to Colombia, who were talked into staying close to the red light district by veterans. Each of them were unhappy with their choice. They didn't even feel safe enough to venture out for meals. Everyone has their own opinion on how safe, or dangerous, Santa Fe (or Medellin, El Centro) is, but that doesn't help someone having a panic attack in a cheap hotel room.

Book a hotel for 2 or 3 nights in a better area, around Parque 93, Chapinero or maybe around Calle 109 (is that Santa Barbara? And take a taxi to Santa Fe. If after spending some time around Santa Fe, you feel comfortable and want to stay, check out some local hotels and find one you like. I've found you can often get a cheaper rate dealing directly with the hotel than you can find on the booking sites. Otherwise, extend your stay at your original hotel.

Mr Enternational

10-26-20, 16:47

I just spent an hour and a half trying to up load my covid test from my Dr on the Migration app. It's fucking imposibleeee Fuck them, I'm done ! Not worth the aggravation to travel to Colombia until they get back to normal. Cancel the hotel, cancel the flight I'll bring her back to the states.LOL. You must be doing something wrong. The one I made for myself is in pdf format and I had no problem with the app. It was quick and smooth. I did it when I was in the Uber on the way to the airport. And the best part is there is no paperwork to do after that. You just show the ladies your test and they highlight PCR then you show it to the immigration agent along with your passport.

With that attitude it seems you will never come to Colombia again. Things have changed drastically. Before you can even walk into the airport you have to have that covid app filled out. You scan it and show it to the girl with your passport. Then you go to another lady for your sanitizer. You can no longer bring suitcases in the cabin on domestic flights. If it does not fit under your seat then you have to check it in at the check in counter. When I was going through security a minute ago I grabbed one of those things to put my stuff in. That lady about cussed my ass out and made me put it back. She has to put it under the UV light first.

Woodman09

10-26-20, 17:04

How strict are masks in Bogota? Do you have to wear them anywhere in public (like walking down the street)? Also, is it pretty safe to stay near la zona in Santa Fe? Thanks.Stay at the Ibis Museo, Hotel San Francisco or Teqendama Suites-- 10 minute walk to Santa Fe-- Not real dangerous if you are a man with street wisdom.

Everyone wears masks-- I wear mine on my chin mostly-.

The cops will shake down a gringo without a mask-- like those guys I was hanging out with a few weeks ago.

Peoples79

10-26-20, 21:01

Well, moreso Saturday. At 1235 am, I've been reading the forum for a few weeks now, jumped on Tinder and have a few to meet. I'm a 40 something's, mixed guy, in pretty decent shape with, elementary level Spanish.

So I'm thinking of staying in Santa Fe, like somewhere where I can walk a block, grab one or two and bring them back to the room. Is that recommended? Oh, I have also been to Cartagena and Medellin, as well as other known mongering spots. And I'm from DC. Not scared to walk Santa Fe alone. Either case, I will probably try to stay at Hotel Europa, or Santa Fe Suites. Then get an airbnb in Chapinero or somewhere.

Any recommendations will certainly help. The hotels that I messaged all said they charge 140k per guest or so not allow them.

DonCarlos1234

10-26-20, 21:24

You're looking for long term relationships on seeking which is a site for sugar daddies?

And you don't pay nothing but expenses?? You don't think they're in it for the long run for strictly financial purposes??

I can relate to what you're saying and while your chances are better in Bogot of finding this. It's still rare.

ALL girls are on seeking for financial purposes. Whether it be a hooker or wanting to date a rich guy it's all about the $$. To think otherwise is extremely naive.This does not mean I won't also hang out in clubs, go to Santa Fe, Clock Tower, El Centro, strip clubs or look at the escort sites, FB. NADA! Women are a horrible addiction. Got to love them. It's not for everyone.

You will find it difficult to meet the type of girls who you can find on SA. Anywhere. A few are there for "mutual benefits" "no strings attached" and can be tempted for $100. Most want more (more than $$ a good time etc.) and it doesn't mean they feel they are "entitled" it means if YOU want to find one that you can only have sex with. You are wasting their time. (Yours also).

A Foreign Affair has organized tours, SOCIALS they say "With only 10 to 15 men on average, you will have more than a 7:1 ratio, and that is just the first night. Many of our clients will date two or three women a day and some will even date five a day. " It costs around $2,500 USD + .not including memberships and doesn't guarantee any phone numbers. Some of the women are models, a lot are real. Most are too old for me. The business model is for guys to find a wife. It works but it's expensive and very time consuming. It can also backfire. You might get laid (testing the merchandise). If there was a guarantee in life, LOL I would still be married to my model / x wife.

Another option for meeting beautiful young girls is going to the nightclubs and "gaming" them. The girls I would like are going to be surrounded by guys and difficult to talk to. (noise, friends, etc.) but it is possible, I have friends that travel the world teaching guys how to pick up these girls. They charge thousands. Also you will know nothing about the person till you "open" a conversation. It's mostly about getting laid often. The gaming world works but there are so many guys doing it, IMHO it will get old and backfire, making it more difficult.

SA in other countries is a lot different than Colombia, especially Bogota. Everywhere else it seems it's more about sugar daddy relationships, guys always paying (way too much) for limited relationships, "allowances" (stupid) & possibly sex. In Bogota (for example) , and other cities in Colombia girls are using SA for a lot more than just a SD. There are plenty of gold diggers but the ratio is still WAY in our favor. I have met professional ballet dancers, actresses, IG models, MILF's, students and lots of "normal" girls. There's a high percentage of girls you can learn about, meet and enjoy whatever relationship is mutual on there. Kind of a mix of a dating site and P4 P deal. Their's a high percentage of 8-10's who are real people and extremely difficult to meet elsewhere. For a high end GFE date or weekend getaway it's perfect. I'm still friends with the girls I met a year ago.

Actually I've found too many girls so it now becomes the challenge for me. Do I want more than sex? Do I want to start dating a 10 by asking her to fuck? Probably would backfire, maybe not. LOL Decisions that most guys will never face. What to do in Colombia? Do I have 5 / 10 rotating girlfriends / sex partners? Visit Colombia often? Sounds good but these girls are much smarter than the P4 P / street girls. Not easy getting them to be OK with that. So I'm grateful to be able to anonymously post here. I am grateful for the 10's I met on seeking during my last trip to Bogota. It's a lot of work, pipelining and maintaining conversations with some of the most beautiful women on the planet. But try doing that anywhere else. Who knows Elvis may have the best advice. Words of Love. "Take her somewhere she's never been before" and enjoy the FUCK out of it. LOL.

I have 2 weeks planed in Bogota, 1 in Medellin and probably will go to Barranquilla. Maybe a second trip soon. I'll probably date, fuck or reject 50+ 8's, 9's and 10's. Not counting any freelancers. Prepaid's, strippers etc. Nowhere else on the planet (well at this cost) is that possible. I must be crazy.

JonSnow1

10-26-20, 23:15

Outside of some ladies being forced / pimped this underage thing is the worst part about mongering. Why in the hell are the police allowing this? They seem to be keen to everything else but they see an underage girl selling her wares and they do nothing. Damn shame.

And any Americans on the board need to know this-it is now a federal CRIME to go to another country and have relations with underage children. https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/extraterritorial-sexual-exploitation-children.

Showdown.Pre Covid Era. Club Texas, was shut down by the Police several times for having underage girls and also some without cedulas. It's the sister club to California in Santa Fe.

Police would sometimes ask random street girls cedulas, although it wasn't common. Also motels (other than working girl motels) in Santa Fe would ask for cedulas before admitting guests.

Buckeye63

10-27-20, 01:16

That is excellent advice.

Some guys are immediately comfortable with areas like Santa Fe or El Centro in Medellin. Others take awhile before they can walk the areas comfortably. Some never can get over their fear.

I've talked with several guys, on their first trip to Colombia, who were talked into staying close to the red light district by veterans. Each of them were unhappy with their choice. They didn't even feel safe enough to venture out for meals. Everyone has their own opinion on how safe, or dangerous, Santa Fe (or Medellin, El Centro) is, but that doesn't help someone having a panic attack in a cheap hotel room.

Book a hotel for 2 or 3 nights in a better area, around Parque 93, Chapinero or maybe around Calle 109 (is that Santa Barbara? And take a taxi to Santa Fe. If after spending some time around Santa Fe, you feel comfortable and want to stay, check out some local hotels and find one you like. I've found you can often get a cheaper rate dealing directly with the hotel than you can find on the booking sites. Otherwise, extend your stay at your original hotel.Hi Gents,

While I have been mongering for awhile this is my first post mostly because I will be venturing out of my comfort zone of Asia and heading for South America for the first time. I have been to Jamaica and Mexico and of course in the US but internationally 85-90% has been in Asia. I watched a lot of YouTube videos and researched many websites on the areas I would be visiting and I have never felt unsafe or unsure of a decision to travel to a particular region or city. And then once I arrived I felt like I was familiar with area because of all the research. However, I don't get a real feeling of confidence of safety for an American in Bogota, at least not 100%. I am still wanting to travel there but I want to ask a couple of questions to the group.

The videos I have watched on YouTube about Santa Fe are during the day and night. It seems very normal to me and there doesn't seem to be anything to be afraid of but all of the videos seem to be from someone riding a bicycle instead of walking. Is walking not recommended. The US Embassy website lists Columbia as a level 4 -do not travel area because of crime, terrorism and kidnapping. Is that something you truly need to worry about in the city? Is safe to walk at night? Is it safe to be out at night? I prefer walking to get some exercise but I will use a cab if necessary.

I know that from reading through the last 3 months of posts that you guys are very comfortable being in Bogota and do not seem to be too worried about crime. I guess basically that as long as I don't do anything stupid and pay attention to my surroundings I should be able to survive without any incidence.

And then I really don't speak Spanish so how will that affect me with the local community?

Also, Woodman, I don't know if you will be reading this but I saw in previous post that you offer a tour. I don't know if this is an inside joke or something but if it is true I would be interested in talking to you about it.

Thanks guys. If anyone would like some info on Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand, Japan or Korea just give me a shout and I will be happy to help any way I can.

Showdown

10-27-20, 01:24

Mr Enternational

10-27-20, 02:08

Can someone list out the link to the app?

And so I am clear to enter Colombia you need to.

1. Have a COVID-19 test that says PCR was the test given.

2. Fill out the information on https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf.

3. Download the app on your phone and fill it out (I Have not done this yet).

Showdown.The app is CoronApp. Search for it where you get apps. But like I said before you need a local number to activate it. Not sure what the process is without. You do not need it to enter the country. You only need it when entering the airport from the city.

RacShack

10-27-20, 02:31

The app is CoronApp. Search for it where you get apps. But like I said before you need a local number to activate it. Not sure what the process is without. You do not need it to enter the country. You only need it when entering the airport from the city.Hi Mr E, how do you have number before landing? Do they allow you to go get sim first? Any and all information would be great, thanks.

Mc2988

10-27-20, 03:25

I'm heading for the first time to santa fe this week as well. I have experiences mongering in south america but not in Bogota so this will be fun. Will do a write up of my experiences when I get back. For now I can say I will try and stay close to santa fe with the motels around. I took note of some of the ones mentioned here but do you guys recommend other cheap motels that one can stay nearby (I'm just mostly looking for a motel to crash because ill mostly be outside) . I'm from another city in south america so I think I can blend in pretty well. If anyone here is there for first time and doesn't speak spanish maybe we can meet up somewhere and help each other out, I can speak spanish naturally and don't mind helping others out in this place as well as have some company for when heading out at night.

For the person asking if ok to be out at night, I would say be careful and stay near lit / crowded areas and if you can go with someone. Or at least know where you're headed to because it tends to get sketchy at night at a neighborhood like this. I say that because I've been to other south american cities similar to this and there's always a few a**holes around looking for their next target but just try and blend in as much as possible and only carry enough cash to hold you down those few hours at night. I feel safe but that's because I look like I can be from there and if someone talks to me I can pass off as a local. Ill be getting there on Thursday and thanks for all the info you guys post on here it helps to know when navigating and blending in these places as much as possible.

Mr Enternational

10-27-20, 03:50

Hi Mr E, how do you have number before landing? Do they allow you to go get sim first? Any and all information would be great, thanks.When I was in the States and downlaoded the app I put in one of my girl's phone number. Then they text the code to that number and she sent me the code to put in the app. You do not need that app when you arrive. You only need it if you are outside of the airport and want to come inside for a flight. So if you are like me and had been in Bogota a couple of days and want to go to another city you would need to fill out how you feel in the app and show it when entering the airport.

Bango Cheito

10-27-20, 08:58

I used Uber coming from the airport tonight. He was actually in the far driveway from the door and not in the parking lot. They have a bunch of doors blocked off at the airport. People coming to meet you can not come inside and you can only exit out of door 3 I think it is. Old girl that came to meet me arrived early and had to wait outside.

Back to Uber. There was an Uber Ya for like 25,000 going downtown, then there was an Uber Flash for 14,000. I chose Uber Flash. The driver picked me up and he was like Flash is to deliver packages and shit; a courier service. He told me to change it in the app but I did not see how to do it. When we arrived at the hotel the app charged me 7,000 and I gave him 20,000 in cash.

You didn't see the package icon on Uber Flash? LOL.

For your fish, just keep walking west on Cll 20. On the other side of la 7 a there are 3-4 real good places!

Bango Cheito

10-27-20, 09:03

How strict are masks in Bogota? Do you have to wear them anywhere in public (like walking down the street)? Also, is it pretty safe to stay near la zona in Santa Fe? Thanks.Technically, the moment you leave your hotel room you should have it on.

Depending on the neighborhood, a lot of people leave their nostrils free or chin it, but technically you can get a hefty fine for that.

Honestly I don't imagine the police messing with a foreigner too much unless he's in a really fancy neighborhood and pissing lots of people off.

Bango Cheito

10-27-20, 09:05

Outside of some ladies being forced / pimped this underage thing is the worst part about mongering. Why in the hell are the police allowing this? They seem to be keen to everything else but they see an underage girl selling her wares and they do nothing. Damn shame.

And any Americans on the board need to know this-it is now a federal CRIME to go to another country and have relations with underage children. https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/extraterritorial-sexual-exploitation-children.

Showdown.In a word: bribes.

Personally I recommend incall over all other forms of mongering, and this is one of the reasons.

Showdown

10-27-20, 10:41

The app is CoronApp. Search for it where you get apps. But like I said before you need a local number to activate it. Not sure what the process is without. You do not need it to enter the country. You only need it when entering the airport from the city.Here is the link (Android).

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.gov.ins.guardianes&hl=en_US&gl=US

IronQuinn

10-27-20, 12:49

You do not need that app when you arrive. You only need it if you are outside of the airport and want to come inside for a flight. So if you are like me and had been in Bogota a couple of days and want to go to another city you would need to fill out how you feel in the app and show it when entering the airport.So, without it you can enter the country, but then you can't leave to go back home? I don't own a cell phone, do they have physical forms at the airport?

Mr Enternational

10-27-20, 14:08

So, without it you can enter the country, but then you can't leave to go back home? I don't own a cell phone, do they have physical forms at the airport?Good question. There was a guy in front of me holding up the line. He was like 70 something years old. He did not have a cell phone in his hand but had a bunch of papers, looked to be just his flight info. That lady was trying to explain something to him. He was going nowhere slowly. There were no papers on that podium. Just behind the glass a scanner at the bottom and a cell phone at the top set up like it was going to take people's pictures. Eventually she took me while he was trying to figure out whatever. Better to invest in a wheel than try to roll a boulder up a mountain.

I reported wrong before. They do not scan the app, they just have to see it completed. Because when I walked up I held my phone up to the scanner and the lady said no just give it to me. Then she saw it was completed and said now go over there to get sanitizer on your hands.

LatinaLover#1

10-27-20, 14:09

LOL. You must be doing something wrong. The one I made for myself is in pdf format and I had no problem with the app. It was quick and smooth. I did it when I was in the Uber on the way to the airport. And the best part is there is no paperwork to do after that. You just show the ladies your test and they highlight PCR then you show it to the immigration agent along with your passport.

With that attitude it seems you will never come to Colombia again. Things have changed drastically. Before you can even walk into the airport you have to have that covid app filled out. You scan it and show it to the girl with your passport. Then you go to another lady for your sanitizer. You can no longer bring suitcases in the cabin on domestic flights. If it does not fit under your seat then you have to check it in at the check in counter. When I was going through security a minute ago I grabbed one of those things to put my stuff in. That lady about cussed my ass out and made me put it back. She has to put it under the UV light first.Half of Bogota is still closed, the restaurants' are totally closed or only open on a few days a week. When Filling of the genius app they devised how can they have 250 types of occupation listed, including a listing for a nuclear scientist but not a listing for Retired or sales! I put my occupation as oceanographer, fuck them! I have a paper copy of my swab test, I have one in my medical portal but that's not GOOD ENOUGH for these mental midgets. It's a hippa violation for my Medical office to send me an email so I couldn't load the form onto the the Genius-app So Mr. Enter. You are correct, I don't see me going back to Colombia for the foreseeable future. I've slowed down in the last 30 years of traveling and I don't need to try to fuck every girl in Colombia anymore jajaj I'm happy with my one special woman nowadays. I'll leave you young bucks to do the double and triple bookings LOL those were the days.

Elvis 2008

10-27-20, 15:51

So, without it you can enter the country, but then you can't leave to go back home? I don't own a cell phone, do they have physical forms at the airport?You do not need the app filled out at all. When you are a foreigner in Colombia and do not have a Colombian phone number, you show your boarding pass and your passport. The Colombian tracking app is for Colombians only. I flew three times in Colombia between airports without using the app.

Viajando Musico

10-27-20, 19:59

LatinaLover#1

10-27-20, 20:17

Mr Enternational

10-27-20, 22:49

Shit brother, I should have wrote you on Sunday before I drove all the way to Atlanta for my fucken Monday flight. I could have just ignored all that crazy shit.There are 2 different "apps" remember. There is the immigration website where you have to upload the test which is no app at all. This is actually your immigration paperwork as I stated before. They ask for that along with the PCR test at the check in counter on your way to Colombia.

Then there is the CoronApp which is an actual app. With that you state whether you have any covid symptoms or not.

IronQuinn

10-28-20, 00:54

Thanks for the clarity Mr. E and Elvis. Much appreciated.

JjBee62

10-28-20, 09:59

This does not mean I won't also hang out in clubs, go to Santa Fe, Clock Tower, El Centro, strip clubs or look at the escort sites, FB. NADA! Women are a horrible addiction. Got to love them. It's not for everyone.

You will find it difficult to meet the type of girls who you can find on SA. Anywhere. A few are there for "mutual benefits" "no strings attached" and can be tempted for $100. Most want more (more than $$ a good time etc.) and it doesn't mean they feel they are "entitled" it means if YOU want to find one that you can only have sex with. You are wasting their time. (Yours also).

A Foreign Affair has organized tours, SOCIALS they say "With only 10 to 15 men on average, you will have more than a 7:1 ratio, and that is just the first night. Many of our clients will date two or three women a day and some will even date five a day. " It costs around $2,500 USD + .not including memberships and doesn't guarantee any phone numbers. Some of the women are models, a lot are real. Most are too old for me. The business model is for guys to find a wife. It works but it's expensive and very time consuming. It can also backfire. You might get laid (testing the merchandise). If there was a guarantee in life, LOL I would still be married to my model / x wife.

Another option for meeting beautiful young girls is going to the nightclubs and "gaming" them. The girls I would like are going to be surrounded by guys and difficult to talk to. (noise, friends, etc.) but it is possible, I have friends that travel the world teaching guys how to pick up these girls. They charge thousands. Also you will know nothing about the person till you "open" a conversation. It's mostly about getting laid often. The gaming world works but there are so many guys doing it, IMHO it will get old and backfire, making it more difficult...That sounds fantastic and I'm sure you'll have a great trip. However, parts aren't quite correct.

But first, send those guys spending thousands my way. I'll teach them for $999.

All those women who can only be found on SA can be found everywhere. You might have to work a bit harder, but they're much cheaper.

El Mechanico

10-28-20, 14:55

Elvis 2008

10-28-20, 18:02

You're looking for long term relationships on seeking which is a site for sugar daddies?Seeking was designed for long term relationships. It morphed into something that can be used for short term relationships where prostitution is tolerated.

And you don't pay nothing but expenses??Not always. There will be hot hooker types who want to get paid like escorts, and I am fine with that. I have four or five in Bogota right now who I could text now and would see me just for P4 P.

You don't think they're in it for the long run for strictly financial purposes??Of course, but that benefit does not have to come out of my pocket.

I tell you this because it seems like money doesn't matter for youAs for my helping out women during the pandemic, what do you think really happened? The same thing that always happens with the hobby. You hit some home runs and doubles and you have strike outs. Of course, when I am saying home runs, even that is downplaying it. About half the women I saw fucked me like their lives depended on it.

The interesting thing to me was how many guys were so desperate to say the home runs were doubles and talk non-stop about the strike outs. On the forum, the woman I named the Queen was called ordinary. On seeking, she was messaged so much that she changed her name to reflect what I had written about her. I really debated sharing about her because I knew she would become popular if I did. I was kind of done with her when I wrote what I did, but she apologized, and I will see her again. I hope her ego has not gotten too big.

You seem to have the more expensive taste. I am the same way and I will pay whatever it takes for my comfort and enjoy myself.Yeah, I know, but you are limiting yourself. You have a john mentality. You are pursuing the old ways. You think of women only as an expense. I am having women wash my clothes, pack my suitcase, sew me clothes, give me massages, give me gifts, text me all the time telling me they love me.

I can relate to what you're saying and while your chances are better in Bogota of finding this. It's still rare.Rare? It is impossible if you think the Colombian women are only after you for money and really want to hang out with their novios. You are repeating forum or conventional wisdom, but you abandoned convention when you paid for sex, so you have to evaluate if abandoning convention is worth doing again.

I agree that women are after money, but the novios make 5% of what you do. So why would they want to hang out with them? If you can figure out what the novios provide and do it yourself, and I have, then you will be fucking beauty queens bareback too.

Mr Enternational

10-28-20, 19:17

You do not need the app filled out at all. When you are a foreigner in Colombia and do not have a Colombian phone number, you show your boarding pass and your passport. The Colombian tracking app is for Colombians only. I flew three times in Colombia between airports without using the app.I just came to Barranquilla airport and I had my US passport in hand. The lady at the door asked me for a boarding pass. I did not have one and showed her my reservation. She said go ahead. So no app was needed.

I got to security and put my things through. They wanted to put one of my bags through again. They told me to open it up. They told me my small bottle of Tabasco sauce was not permitted. I biched about it and said it is the same bottle I brought here 2 days ago. He said at this airport is not allowed. I hate when airports in the same country have different guidelines.

Had the same situation in Santo Domingo one time. They lady said I could put the hot sauce in somebody's eyes. I picked up my pencil and said hell I can put this in somebody's eyes too. She let me keep the hot sauce.

Xijinpooh

10-29-20, 04:22

Thanks for the postings in this forum; although I've not read them all, some of the discussions around COVID protocol's proven super helpful.

I'm headed to live in Bogota until the holidays; I got an apartment in Santa Fe, it has useful broadband, but I'm starting to think the location was a mistake. I guess if it's too bad, I'll move to a different location.

I'm curious about how you all approach the street girls nearby, do the girls only use the hotels? Do you all have experience getting their WhatsApp and inviting them back to your place nearby for more ]extended stays? What's the most you see girls charging on the street in Santa Fe (high-end)?

Showdown

10-29-20, 14:41

JjBee62

10-29-20, 15:56

When you finally exit the airport make sure you walk completely across the street into the parking lot. So as pointed out on this board before there are three lanes. Cross all three lanes and go into the parking lot. That is where your Uber will pick you up at. Make sure you pay attention to what the license plate is because if you arrive at night it's really dark and it's hard to see the color of the cars. Also if you're not a Spanish speaker make sure you have Google translate and use that to communicate with the driver through the app. I simply told the driver what colors I was wearing and he found me right away after searching for him for 5 minutes or so. You have to go through all of this because Uber is technically illegal in Colombia.

Showdown.They resolved that last year. First Uber was shut down completely, for a short time, then they got it restored legally.

The problem isn't with the legality, it's the taxi drivers. They have gotten violent in the past with Uber drivers.

If you want to completely avoid the hassle and you're traveling light, take the green bus (free) from the airport to Portal Dorado, the closest Transmilenio station to the airport, unless you're arriving late. Then you can have Uber meet you there.

Don't forget to sit in the front with Uber and whether you are using taxi or Uber, don't slam the door. Every time they see a gringo they cringe because of the door slamming.

Showdown

10-29-20, 22:58

They resolved that last year. First Uber was shut down completely, for a short time, then they got it restored legally.

The problem isn't with the legality, it's the taxi drivers. They have gotten violent in the past with Uber drivers.

If you want to completely avoid the hassle and you're traveling light, take the green bus (free) from the airport to Portal Dorado, the closest Transmilenio station to the airport, unless you're arriving late. Then you can have Uber meet you there.

Don't forget to sit in the front with Uber and whether you are using taxi or Uber, don't slam the door. Every time they see a gringo they cringe because of the door slamming.I've never sat in the front in any Uber globally. What is the rationale behind doing that?

Showdown

10-29-20, 22:59

I want to wear supposedly Abu Dubai was located today. It's actually hard to locate because it's actually a small door that's part of another fence and you have to ring the bell. Some guy came out looking angry and I asked him was the spa there and he said no.

Is the spa gone?

Showdown.

Mr Enternational

10-29-20, 23:55

I've never sat in the front in any Uber globally. What is the rationale behind doing that?That used to be done to keep taxi drivers and police from knowing they were Uber. It is no longer a thing.

Mr Enternational

10-29-20, 23:57

What's the most you see girls charging on the street in Santa Fe (high-end)?40,000 pesos.

Jaylehman32

10-30-20, 00:28

Hi,

Does any have an links to any Columbian Escorts sites and information about streetwalkers, I'm planning a trip to visit and I want to have a good time without getting screwed. Feel free to PM me Thanks.

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Mr Enternational

10-30-20, 00:32

What kind of want to be reverse psychology is this?

Her: Amor yo no soy dama de compañia si quieres verme los pagas si no quieres no hay ningún problema puedes conseguir otra y hasta mejor que yo

Me: ahhh. No eres dama de compania. Lo siento. Solo pago damas de compania.

JjBee62

10-30-20, 04:41

I've never sat in the front in any Uber globally. What is the rationale behind doing that?The rationale in Colombia is simple. It may have stopped now, but when Uber first came to Colombia there was a lot of resistance from taxi drivers. If they saw a car pull over and someone hop in the back, they would chase them down, force them off the road and beat up the driver. There were quite a few incidents. Most Uber drivers will insist you sit in the front.

That's why, at the airport you have to meet them in the parking lot.

KilledSoul

10-30-20, 04:51

I agree that women are after money, but the novios make 5% of what you do. So why would they want to hang out with them?There is a easy test for this. Ask them to spend weekend nights with you. If you are her high priority she will gladly accept. If she is only using you for money they will try to reschedule. Even then its not a failproof test.

If you can figure out what the novios provide and do it yourself, and I have, then you will be fucking beauty queens bareback too. Do you speak spanish fluently? And are you good looking? And what do novious provide that you also provide?

Not arguing here, I just want to know more about your POV and method. I have done similar "arrangements" in Medellin. What I can tell you is how much ever they tell you that they love you, they will run away when your money runs out. What I also suspect is that deep down they don't respect a monger much. Your true GF doesn't ask for money.

Sangnyc21

10-30-20, 06:02

There is a easy test for this. Ask them to spend weekend nights with you. If you are her high priority she will gladly accept. If she is only using you for money they will try to reschedule. Even then its not a failproof test.

Do you speak spanish fluently? And are you good looking? And what do novious provide that you also provide?

Not arguing here, I just want to know more about your POV and method. I have done similar "arrangements" in Medellin. What I can tell you is how much ever they tell you that they love you, they will run away when your money runs out. What I also suspect is that deep down they don't respect a monger much. Your true GF doesn't ask for money.Unless your Spanish is fluent and can pass for a Latino 99% of the times it's all about the $$.

Gringos don't stand a chance for serious relationships with the top of the line girls.

Once they're past their prime and popped out a few kids then it's a different ball game.

But to get the top of the line 9's and 10's in their prime, it's almost impossible for a gringo to get these girls.

If they do it has to be extremely beneficial for them.

I've had a few regulars where I didn't actually pay for sex. But dinners trips etc all come out of my pocket.

Expenses cost a lot more than actually paying cash for sex.

I'm not saying it's impossible but if your in your 50's and trying to be with a 20 something girl for something long term and serious then you need common sense. LOL. Now for a couple sexual encounters that's another thing but sometimes guys need to wake up.

I've been with a couple 9's and the most I will do is overpay to have one night with her to do as I please and will never desire to take her on a trip to cuddle. 😂128514;128514;.

Cuddling will cost me a lot more in the long run.

Social status is a very big deal in Colombia. Especially with girls. So while they will go out with you and fuck you it has to be very beneficial for them.

Now like I said it's 99% so for the 1% that have a different story. Kudos to you!!

Otherwise fuck them, drop a load in their mouth, pay them, and onto the next.

Bango Cheito

10-30-20, 08:44

That used to be done to keep taxi drivers and police from knowing they were Uber. It is no longer a thing.I had one guy insist on it just 10 hours ago.

IME some insist on you going front, some insist on you going in the back. 90% of them don't care.

Bango Cheito

10-30-20, 08:47

Unless your Spanish is fluent and can pass for a Latino 99% of the times it's all about the $$.

Gringos don't stand a chance for serious relationships with the top of the line girls.

Once they're past their prime and popped out a few kids then it's a different ball game.

But to get the top of the line 9's and 10's in their prime, it's almost impossible for a gringo to get these girls.

If they do it has to be extremely beneficial for them.

I've had a few regulars where I didn't actually pay for sex. But dinners trips etc all come out of my pocket.

Expenses cost a lot more than actually paying cash for sex.

I'm not saying it's impossible but if your in your 50's and trying to be with a 20 something girl for something long term and serious then you need common sense. LOL. Now for a couple sexual encounters that's another thing but sometimes guys need to wake up.

I've been with a couple 9's and the most I will do is overpay to have one night with her to do as I please and will never desire to take her on a trip to cuddle. 😂128514;128514;.

Cuddling will cost me a lot more in the long run.

Social status is a very big deal in Colombia. Especially with girls. So while they will go out with you and fuck you it has to be very beneficial for them.

Now like I said it's 99% so for the 1% that have a different story. Kudos to you!!

Otherwise fuck them, drop a load in their mouth, pay them, and onto the next.I think it's a big YMMV thing.

If you have enough to bring to the table, you will have women fighting over you here. The problem is that most people tend to overestimate themselves.

I agree, getting your Spanish to fluent should be the #1 goal for anybody looking for long-term relationships here. And learn the history and culture. Don't just speak formal Spanish, learn to speak street.

If you are thoroughly bilingual and obviously economically secure that goes a long way here.

Hotrod10

10-30-20, 11:18

Normally I travel to SA 5-6 times a year. Health issues have kept me home this entire year. I tried looking at my bucket list and number one on my list was the girl that could grow beautiful flowers out of her butt. Think about it. Wow. I haven't seen this lately but when you sign in There she is.

IronQuinn

10-30-20, 13:16

Unless your Spanish is fluent and can pass for a Latino 99% of the times it's all about the $$.
Gringos don't stand a chance for serious relationships with the top of the line girls.
I'm not saying it's impossible but if your in your 50's and trying to be with a 20 something girl for something long term and serious then you need common sense. LOL. Now for a couple sexual encounters that's another thing but sometimes guys need to wake up.
Now like I said it's 99% so for the 1% that have a different story. Kudos to you!!Cool, I get to be a 1%er, and my Spanish is just intermediate. I think it's like Bango Cheito says, YMMV. Plus, being in the right place at the right time. A couple years ago, I dated (for quite a while) a beautiful Costa Rican girl. She was busty on top of that. We happened to meet by chance at a social event. I was 37, she was a college student that came to the States to study, from a well off family. She even paid for our outings. She certainly wasn't after money (because I don't have it), so it must have been my looks.

So, it can happen, but I think a thirty year gap looking for a serious relationship is far fetched across the board for any girl, not just Latinas. I admit, I was lucky, but I'll take it. Other than that, I do agree with you, love them and move on to the next.

Elvis 2008

10-30-20, 20:40

There is a easy test for this. Ask them to spend weekend nights with you. If you are her high priority she will gladly accept. If she is only using you for money they will try to reschedule. Even then its not a failproof test.I have already have done that. Better tests are seeing if the woman puts you on her social media page and introduces you to her family.

Do you speak spanish fluently? And are you good looking?No, I speak enough to get by and not really with looks.

And what do novios provide that you also provide?Let's start simple. You find a hottie like I did with a beautiful young daughter. What do you think that she cares about the most: a guy's looks, his ability to speak well enough so a translator is not needed, or her kid? Hell, the kid is probably why she is meeting you but how many guys that she meets will even mention or ask about her kid?

Don Carlos says he does not do wining and dining, which is fine with me and it works for him, but Mr. E says that is always a good thing right? Do not get to know these women. He even says all the women on seeking are working girls.

What do you think I am doing when wining and dining? I will tell you what is is not, bragging about me. I am interviewing if this person is worth my time and money with time being more important.

I could turn the tables on you all and proclaim you all assholes for objectifying women and only looking them as shallow creatures looking for a man who makes them look good or greedy jezebels, but it would be hypocritical. I was the same way, and I learned that you have the best experiences when you get to know the women as people.

What I can tell you is how much ever they tell you that they love you, they will run away when your money runs out.Who are they? A Santa Fe ****, a mother who has a child attached to you, a civil engineering student, a teacher? Would you leave them if they could not have sex with you?

What I also suspect is that deep down they don't respect a monger much.Here we go with the they again.

Your true GF doesn't ask for money.Of course, they do. It is not just in the form of hard cash, but we are living in different universes. Saying women do not care about money is like saying men do not care about sex. Any woman who is oblivious to the impact a lack of money has on a relationship is a fool.

You are looking at women as sluts instead of the daughters and mothers that they are. Your attitude is fine for a street hooker; it is going to get you nowhere with the higher end women.

DonCarlos1234

10-31-20, 08:03

Don Carlos says he does not do wining and dining, which is fine with me and it works for him, but Mr. E says that is always a good thing right? Do not get to know these women. He even says all the women on seeking are working girls.
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Your attitude is fine for a street hooker; it is going to get you nowhere with the higher end women.Someone misunderstood. Dinner is good on SA. Any activity you enjoy in the company of an enthusiastic (10) that you won't meet back in Sex Prison. Is MORE enjoyable and you will remember it longer that the sex. There I said it. I'm renting a car in Cartagena, driving the coast road to Barranquilla with a 20 something multilingual business student. Perfect English, Spanish & French. She wants me to be happy. She's spending a couple nights with me, being my tour guide. Has not even asked and who knows might not care about $. She wants someone around her at her level. Sex is a given. It's the prelude and the sequel that matters. I said it.

Mr Enternational

10-31-20, 13:25

Don Carlos says he does not do wining and dining, which is fine with me and it works for him, but Mr. E says that is always a good thing right? Do not get to know these women. He even says all the women on seeking are working girls.

What do you think I am doing when wining and dining? I will tell you what is is not, bragging about me. I am interviewing if this person is worth my time and money with time being more important.Big difference in what he is doing, which is going out to have a good time with the chick and what you are doing which is trying to become a part of their life, sending money to pay their bills and moving them and their family from country to country; trying to get them hooked on you and control them and have power over them by using your money. He has a stable relationship back home and is not out trying to create unnecessary drama for himself.

Elvis 2008

10-31-20, 17:19

Big difference in what he is doing, which is going out to have a good time with the chick Don Carlos is drowning in high quality pussy and so am I. Neither of us ever thought we would have it so good. I cannot believe the women I have turned away.

what you are doing which is trying to become a part of their life, sending money to pay their bills and moving them and their family from country to country; trying to get them hooked on you and control them and have power over them by using your money.Yes, I know it is awful. Helping to pay a woman's bills during a pandemic when they could not work was terrible and so was my moving a family out of Venezuelan poverty.

Can you explain to me the power thing though? What power do I want when I am already fucking them?

I cannot believe your growth though Mr. E. Taking a woman for Mexican food? You are not bragging about how cheap you banged someone or that the woman is stupid.

You are quite the hero in that woman's eyes. She has affection for you beyond just the money you give her and like Don Carlos said, I bet the more memorable parts will be the dinners over the sex. You actually showed some game. Keep it up and I am certain that you will see her looking for ways to pay you back and hear the words te quiero or te amo. Well done.

YippieKayay

10-31-20, 22:10

Can you explain to me the power thing though? What power do I want when I am already fucking them?
When you're supporting her and her entire family you have all the power. You call the shots. I think that is what he meant.

Mr Enternational

10-31-20, 23:00

Can you explain to me the power thing though? What power do I want when I am already fucking them?I think you can explain it better seeing you are the one that said it.

And you guys think money only buys sex. It buys power

Mr Enternational

10-31-20, 23:24

You are quite the hero in that woman's eyes. She has affection for you beyond just the money you give her What money is that? The 60 K pesos that I gave her for the babysitter for 2 days?

Elvis 2008

11-01-20, 03:45

I think you can explain it better seeing you are the one that said it.Power was in the context of not having to put up with women's bullshit not being controlling, but hey you made that up too just like you made up that all women on seeking.com are sluts. I tried complementing but you just went back to the guy you always were. I am just going to ignore you from now on. It is personal with you. Don Carlos and I are doing the same thing and if I posted with a different name, you would be saying that guy has it right and not me.

Hotrod10

11-01-20, 13:25

Mr Enternational

11-01-20, 16:55

Power was in the context of not having to put up with women's bullshit LOL. Why would a person need to buy power in a sense of not having to put up with bullshit? You can not put up with bullshit for free. Yeah ignoring is best. You went off the deep end with delusional stuff a long time ago and you are steadfastly thinking others are sharing the same nuthouse point of view. Because you are buying all this power, but according to your reports yet somehow still putting up with bullshit.

NRandom940

11-01-20, 18:46

Probably within a week. I'll tell you of my experiences. First time there. I went to Medellin last year. Things are looking really good on Skokka.com. Hot girls, low prices.

Combo

11-01-20, 23:13

For the last 11 years, I have made 4-5 trips to South America yearly. Uruguay then Argentina now Columbia. I have been to 4 different major cities in Colombia and Bogota is my favorite. My last trip was at the end of 2019. It looks like Argentina and Colombia are opening-up in the middle of November to flights from USA. I am a septuagenarian. I am not in good shape so really I think I am a candidate for the virus. Here is the dumbest of dumb questions. Please be easy on me. Eating pussy and kissing Are a must for me. If I can't do those two things with a chica, what's the use. We are lucky to have some really up to date members on this site. Any suggestions. OK so what am I hoping for. I hope someone says stop worrying and have a good time.Kissing, screwing, fonding tits and ass, eating pussy, etc. None of these activities are social distancing. In fact they're the polar opposite of social distancing. Moreover, you're likely doing it with multiple chicas that themselves are doing it with multiple other guys (no matter what they say).

Given your age and self-described health, I think mongering is risky. Just my 2 cents. Yes, things suck now. I have trips to Colombia, Brasil, and the DR planned for the winter and I'm beginning to realize they may not happen.

Questner

11-02-20, 00:45

For the last 11 years, I have made 4-5 trips to South America yearly. Uruguay then Argentina now Columbia. I have been to 4 different major cities in Colombia and Bogota is my favorite. My last trip was at the end of 2019. It looks like Argentina and Colombia are opening-up in the middle of November to flights from USA. I am a septuagenarian. I am not in good shape so really I think I am a candidate for the virus. Here is the dumbest of dumb questions. Please be easy on me. Eating pussy and kissing Are a must for me. If I can't do those two things with a chica, what's the use. We are lucky to have some really up to date members on this site. Any suggestions. OK so what am I hoping for. I hope someone says stop worrying and have a good time.60 yo plus and any serious co-morbidities means a no go now. You can try to get a vaccine out of your home country if it becomes available for you sooner, or plan to visit a country where the situation is better, even if means more expensive or difficult to enter (example: Cambodia, Thailand) or Tanzania. This is of course an opinion. This hobby means being exposed.

Xpartan

11-02-20, 02:56

For the last 11 years, I have made 4-5 trips to South America yearly. Uruguay then Argentina now Columbia. I have been to 4 different major cities in Colombia and Bogota is my favorite. My last trip was at the end of 2019. It looks like Argentina and Colombia are opening-up in the middle of November to flights from USA. I am a septuagenarian. I am not in good shape so really I think I am a candidate for the virus. Here is the dumbest of dumb questions. Please be easy on me. Eating pussy and kissing Are a must for me. If I can't do those two things with a chica, what's the use. We are lucky to have some really up to date members on this site. Any suggestions. OK so what am I hoping for. I hope someone says stop worrying and have a good time.I'm younger than you (50's) but also have some preexisting conditions, AND I couldn't care less about kissing and dining at the why. Yet, I'm staying put. If kissing is something you so thoroughly enjoy, that's totally a no brainer.

I tend to travel several time a year, so staying put is so fucking hard! But what's the alternative?

Wait until it's over or, at least, until the risk subsides, and there will be a vaccine next year, most likely.

Cm6363

11-02-20, 05:29

Don Carlos is drowning in high quality pussy and so am I. Neither of us ever thought we would have it so good. I cannot believe the women I have turned away.Are you gents avoiding the kissing, dining at the Y and even possibly wearing a mask around the chicas? How are you gents addressing the virus?

Cheers.

DonCarlos1234

11-02-20, 05:39

Power was in the context .... Don Carlos and I are doing the same thing and if I posted with a different name, you would be saying that guy has it right and not me.LOL this is about how much time, patience, energy and yes. Some $$ that Colombian girls, 10's etc. Are worth investing in. If this "perfect storm" which is happening in Colombia goes away and I overthink or waste time judging other peoples reasoning for their dating. I will miss the gravy train. That's not going to happen. Meanwhile I just extended my upcoming trip to be there for 30 days. Who does your laundry Mr. E. ? I need a traveling maid. Jejeje.

DonCarlos1234

11-02-20, 05:42

Are you gents avoiding the kissing, dining at the Y and even possibly wearing a mask around the chicas? How are you gents addressing the virus?

Cheers.I believe someone with less than ONE boyfriend maybe a couple a year, who has been on lock down. Is a lot safer than any escort or street sweetie. That being said, vitamin the, put hand sanitizer on it. (it was an accident) YMMV.

NRandom940

11-02-20, 17:34

LOL this is about how much time, patience, energy and yes. Some $$ that Colombian girls, 10's etc. Are worth investing in. If this "perfect storm" which is happening in Colombia goes away and I overthink or waste time judging other peoples reasoning for their dating. I will miss the gravy train. That's not going to happen. Meanwhile I just extended my upcoming trip to be there for 30 days. Who does your laundry Mr. E. ? I need a traveling maid. Jejeje.I have quick-drying travel clothing. Socks, underwear, etc. That you wash in the hotel sink and hang it up and it's dry in 2 hours. Off topic. But cool (and slightly expensive).

Elvis 2008

11-02-20, 19:37

Are you gents avoiding the kissing, dining at the Y and even possibly wearing a mask around the chicas?Not at all.

How are you gents addressing the virus?
Cheers.If a woman looks sick and is running a fever, I stay away. I was with a woman who lost her sense of taste and smell but she was not coughing, did not look sick, and I did not kiss her or dine on her, and she later tested + for Covid but I caught nothing from her.

If you want to read the doom and gloom reports, you can get Covid super easy, but in my experience, you get it from somebody who looks sick and if you are exposed to them (coughing, sneezing, yelling) for a prolonged period of time.

And I am not sure about Colombia but here in the USA sex prison, I am not seeing near the number of sick as shit Covid people as in July. Yeah, I know the numbers are as high as ever, but it seems like Covid now is on par with or a little worse than the flu. It sure was not 3, 4 months ago, so outside of avoiding people who look sick and are running a fever, nothing has changed for me.

The first time someone with Covid coughed in front of me, I was pretty scared. After the 100th, I am like, "Eh, whatever."

Showdown

11-03-20, 19:55

My first trip to Bogota was quite interesting.

Would I go back?

No. Not until the pandemic has passed.

Logistics.

To enter Colombia at this time you need two things in addition to your passport.

A COVID-19 test that shows you are negative for the virus. This test must be taken atleast 96 hours before your flight departure. The test must have two things on it that are vital-the date you took the test and received the results AND must have the words SARS-CoV-2,NAA and PCR test on it. I am not a medical professional but without these two things the airlines in the USA WILL NOT let you board.

You must complete the Check-MIG form online or on the app. This form must be filled out BEFORE you fly and BEFORE you depart Colombia. On each end of your flight they will ask for it and you must show it either in printed form or on your phone. Here is the link to the form https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf.

Google Maps. Download Google maps onto your phone and download the city of Bogota so you can use it OFFLINE on your phone. What does this mean? Even if you do not have a signal your phone GPS still works and you can know where you are going and the locations you need. In addition, mark the places you want to go on Google maps so when you are walking or in the Uber you will know where you are going. This solves alot of "where this place" problems. Here is the link that explains how to download Google maps offline https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6291838?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en.

Decide your access to money options. It's easy to obtain money through an ATM but what about accessing the small bills you need? BBVA is a south American bank and was across the street from the hotel I stayed at. I went on their website weeks ago (https://www.bbvausa.com/checking-accounts/online-checking.html) and opened a simple account with an ATM card. When I got to Bogota I walked in the branch, told them how much I wanted and in what denominations and I had all I needed. No ATM machines that you have to worry about being robbed or other issues. I simply walked out of my hotel, crossed the street and in five minutes I had the cash in small denominations. And right before I left town I went back to the bank and exchanged my Colombian money for USD.

Bring your own condoms and anti-bacterial wipes. This is essential as the condoms the girls have are poor quality and for hygienic reasons bring the wipes that work best for you.

Set up an Uber account before you leave https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubercab&hl=en&gl=US . I exclusively used Uber for the whole trip and it was inexpensive and effective. I never paid more than $4 USD for any trip I took.

Have a few non mongering things to do. You can't sleep with the girls 24 hours a day. I will list those out later.

Though many have suggested Tinder I was VERY successful with Bumble https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bumble.app&hl=en_SG . I downloaded an app on my phone that can change my location https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lexa.fakegps&hl=en_US&gl=US , changed my location to Bogota and was swiping. I made ALOT of contacts with Bumble. So Download Bumble before you go. Wait until I tell you about Refrigerator girl.

Get a VPN for your phone. It will be the best $10 you can spend. If you use the airport or hotel or any public wifi you have a very good chance of being hacked. This is very serious so spend the money to get it. I use Express VPN https://www.expressvpn.com/.

Google translate. I speak Spanish so I do not need it but download it. And then download the Spanish part so you can use it OFFLINE. Again no signal no Google live translate. So if you download the offline version you can still use it. Here is the link. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.translate&26hl=en and here is the link explaining using it offline https://support.google.com/translate/answer/6142473?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en.

Connect with Woodman09 on the board. I am an experienced monger but the measly $40 I paid him to show me around Santa Fe was invaluable. He showed you where to eat, places to hang out that were safe, FYI on the girls etc. Just spend the $40 for the two hours. Totally worth it and he is a gent to boot.

Bring several masks. They are required EVERYWHERE. I bought 5 fabric ones and would hand wash them. The pollution is bad enough in places that you would want to wear one anyway.

The Flight.

When flight day came I had my COVID test results printed and on my phone as well as have completed the CHECK-MIG form which I had on my phone. At the counter and the gate they checked both of them. I saw many people turned away because they did not have the correct COVID results (see above) or had not filled out CHECK-MIG. I actually made a COVID form as getting the results in time was a near impossibility where I live. Also one thing-RAPID COVID-19 test results ARE NOT acceptable. I learned at the airport that those tests are missing something technical / medical though I can't remember what it was.

The flight itself was uneventful. Everyone wore masks and there was no food / beverage service on the flight. Overwhelmingly everyone onboard was Colombian.

Arriving in Bogota.

At the airport itself you immediately saw all the airport / customs / immigration personnel literally walking around in HAZMAT suits. Hell they almost looked like NASA astronauts. They had two stations. The first station took your temperature (interestingly enough on your wrist-I have never seen that before). Once your temperature was determined to be acceptable you went to the immigration line. Before you got to the counter one of the HAZMAT / NASA cuties checked your COVID test and your CHECK-MIG form. When you got to the immigration counter they checked both of these items again and checked your passport.

I only brought a carry on (all I needed is clothes for a few days) so I didn't need to gather luggage. As you leave the luggage area on the right are two ATM's and a currency exchange place. For the love of God do not use these currency exchange places. Major rip off. I had my aforementioned BBVA account anyhow. As I went to leave that area customs stops you (along with two menacing dogs and two heavily armed police (I was actually impressed one of them had a IWI X95 (look it up)). I was asked if I have more than 10 k USD cash with me and I laughingly said no. That was it.

I walked outside and discovered my Verizon phone did not have a signal. I walked back inside, connected to the airport wifi and then my Express VPN and hailed the Uber. You need to walk across all three lanes to the parking lot in the middle. This is where the UBER will meet you. That parking lot (I believe it is called parking lot C) is dark as hell and I noticed during my trip that UBER may say the car is blue but it is actually white etc. So pay attention to the license plate and communicate with the drive through the app. Bogota airport location for your Google maps (remember to save these on your map on your phone.) https://goo.gl/maps/bhHnmmDqxnhRvAbK9.

It was 25 k ($6 USD) from the airport to my hotel.

The Hotel.

I stayed at the IBIS Hotel Bogota https://goo.gl/maps/ADGkpCbLboEgVx7bA.

It was relatively cheap at $30 a night. I arrived late and the security guard, before he opens the locked glass entrance, makes you wash your hands at a sink just inside the door. And he watched intently you doing so. During my entire trip the staff was this way about washing your hands before entering. Sometimes they were too aggressive about it. I chose this hotel because it was modern, walking distance to Sante Fe, across from the BBVA bank and was close to Carrera 1 which is the road that can quickly take you to Chapinero where most of the casas are.

The room was sparsely furnished and was clean. The view was nice (see photos of the hotel and the view out of the room). The hotel had a low occupancy and I never ate there. The cleaning crew was annoying. They would just enter without knocking. They did this twice to my annoyance. And trust me guys these women were nothing to look at!

Money.

First thing that morning I walked out of the hotel and across the street and went to BBVA bank. https://goo.gl/maps/nnPm8wDFABrzLrYU7 They would only allow three people at a time inside the branch and when you enter they take your temperature on your wrist. I asked for $250 USD (I never even spent all of it) in small bills and I was out. Simple enough. I bought a nice waist money holder that had two zippers in which I kept my passport and phone in one and money in the other and it worked out well. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074C9QC1F/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

Woodman09 and Santa Fe.

Woodman09 arrived as he said he would at the hotel lobby. We exchanged pleasantries and began what would be an informative few hours. We walked to Santa Fe from IBIS (I actually timed it when I did it alone and it was 14 minutes walking at a brisk pace) and he explained many things along the way. He explained the various streets, the girls, a nice bakery to take a load off a nice pharmacy where I bought some medicines to take back with me to the USA that require a prescription and are expensive as hell.

Of note, I tried Viagra for the first time. It didn't do anything for me at all. I threw the other pill away.

I would suggest you do your first trip to Santa Fe in the morning. There are not as many people (yes girls are there but not as many as the day wears on) and you can get a lay of the land. If you go at night for the first time it may be a bit overwhelming.

Santa Fe reminds me a bit of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome-especially at night. Now let me make something clear. Santa Fe was NOT scary or dangerous in my opinion. I know many have said that but it is a combination of Skid Row in LA (homeless and druggies but I never had anyone bother me when alone), Soi Cowboy in Bangkok and a very busy normal street in Santo Domingo. I snapped a photo from a distance (do not openly take photos or videos down here. I saw a guy do it and several guys accosted him verbally) and have included it in this report. I never had anyone bother me. Is this a place you flash Iwatches and cash and Iphones? No. But I took my phone out when I needed it (stepped into a doorway or off to the side) and did the same when I needed some of my cash (I kept 60 K in my pocket at all times and the rest in the waist holder. This always worked out fine.) I was never bothered.

There are all types of women here. Skinny, tall, MILFS, black, very young, very old. You name it and it is there. I even saw a preggo though I did not partake. Alot of people walking around were on their way someplace walking or guys hanging out in front of their shops (barber, convenience store etc) or the girls hanging on the corner or just inside the hotels. Frankly I saw very few women I would call 10's. Most were 7 or less. They were still attractive though. Every woman I saw on this trip sans one was a Venezuelan. I noticed the older women had alot of plastic surgery and were more aggressive in trying to get your attention than the younger ones. Frankly it doesn't feel that dangerous. I can see why at night it feels different however. Too many dark corners and very dark streets. I think if you monger in this area up until it gets dark there is still a very good selection of girls. You don't need to be here late at night to get what you want. The trannies would call out sometimes but they did this to everyone. I just kept walking and they went on to bother someone else. All the clubs are closed. I don't like clubs so it was fine with me.

I only took two girls in Santa Fe. Frankly it is not for me. The first girl I took I could see she had dark areola (and indication of pregnancy or recent pregnancy so she had milk). BTW-many of the girls have see through shirts and panties on. You can see everything. Anyhow I paid her 40 K ($10) and we got a room. Not five minutes after we were in the room comes the knock at the door. Goddamn ridiculous. I told the girl why are they knocking already and she said they always did it. I was a bit flustered knowing I would just get into banging this girl and the knock would come again. I played with her tits, made her drink some of her own milk and left. Hell it's only $10. Later I chose a lovely 100 LB 20 year old dark skinned Venezuelan girl. I told her I wanted 30 minutes and I even told the lady at the hotel she was in front of that I was paying for 30 minutes. Not TEN minutes later this same old lady knocks on the door! What the hell. I opened the door and asked her what the hell was she knocking for. She just walked away. I banged the girl for a few minutes and couldn't even cum so loud was the music in the place and hearing this woman knocking on other doors.

And that was my experience in Santa Fe. Nice to look at all the girls (I also got a great haircut there a few days later for $5. There are many barbers) etc but it wasn't for me. The ambience of the room is what killed it. I didn't ask any of the girls to my hotel room but the experience with the girls would most certainly be better than the damn door knocking in Santa Fe.

Plus the casa of Chapinero is what was so much better for me (I'll get to that later).

I walked back from Santa Fe to IBIS each time along this route. It's a straight shot and I felt safe even at night. Just walk straight down Carrera 10 from the hotel and make a right onto Calle 22 and you will be in the thick of Santa Fe just a few blocks down. If you go this way when you get to this gas station that begins Santa Fe https://goo.gl/maps/YMynxR3SAeSexZG68.

Here are the corners I marked as having a lot of girls though every street did.

https://goo.gl/maps/2n5A4geZoTcoWWDeA

https://goo.gl/maps/41sRvBiRMcfMuu4J7

https://goo.gl/maps/28PhNBsz84L8p4M19

https://goo.gl/maps/nwN2CTB3SqqbGPS88

One nice thing about this area during the day. If you are walking back to IBIS go up to Carrera 7. The street is closed and there are many stores to go to including stores where you can get a SIM. Woodman09 took me to a phone store here and I quickly got a SIM with 2 GB. Walking back to IBIS (which is a straight shot from IBIS) I got a great burger and bought some souvenirs.

Chapinero.

Chapinero https://goo.gl/maps/VjDyxrQkeGvwYJQP7 is a very nice area of Bogota and where the great casas are. Should I come back to Bogota I will get a hotel here as despite the fact that many of the tourist sites are on the Santa Fe side of town. The great mongering, in my opinion, is in Chapinero.

So the next day I set out to the Mezzanine that has been mentioned here before. https://goo.gl/maps/guSG4CpdPo8q8Ngq5 . I got there in about 20 minutes in the UBER going up Carrera 1 road. The building is grey and non descript and across the street from a gas station. I've included many photos. You just walk up the steps and then you can only make a right as it's a balcony. There are four to six doors I think. Each of these small rooms has screens that show when someone is walking down the outside balcony. And then the gauntlet begins.

At each door 3-6 girls pop their heads out enticing you to come in. It's a bit overwhelming but take your time, say some nice words in Spanish and go from door to door. The doors near the end seem to be chock full of girls and they were all Venezuelan. Pay attention to what girl (s) seem interested in you rather than desperate for money. You can tell which ones it is. I chose a middle aged Vennie because after talking with them all the chemistry was there. She explained it was 100 k ($26 USD) for one hour including ejalculation. I found it hilarious she said ejalculation was included. We went to a room at the very end. The room had two massage areas in it separate by a door and a thin wall. The room with the massage table is just big enough for the table and to walk beside it. I talked to her for a few minutes (guys if you do not know Spanish you will struggle here in Bogota. Learn some before you come here in my opinion) and she really warmed up to me. Guys just don't bend her over. Ask her about her country, her kids and her family. Those three things will get them to open up and make the experience better. We had a great sexual experience (I use condoms for everything as I do not do BBBJ or BB) as I made her get on the edge of the table and I banged her front and doggy and finished by shooting on her boobs. The only thing I didn't like was the walls are so thin you can hear everything going on in the massage room next to you. In the hour I was there some girl got banged twice in that room. Some may like this but I didn't.

I liked Mezzanine so much I came back three times. I never went anywhere else (I'll explain).

Afterwards I was hungry and took an Uber to Hooters https://g.page/hooters-zona-t?share (see some more girls in short shorts) in Zona T. The food was ok and there were only two waitresses working. They take your temperature before you enter and they are social distancing tables. Afterwards I went to the Adino Shopping mall down the street just to see it https://g.page/CentroAndino?share.

I then took a UBER the short distance to Abudubai Spa which was close by https://goo.gl/maps/yMPLktX8sSCsBiaZ9 . At first I could not find it because there is no street number on any building that said 12 a-25 #77. I finally realized that there is a garage gate to the street and the end of that garage gate is a door and a buzzer. When I looked through the garage gate / door I could see the number. If you look at the Google street view of this address you will see what I mean. I rang the buzzer and a 20's something guy came to the gate. I asked him if this was Abudubai Spa and he said no. I then asked him if he knew where it was and he said no. I was a bit shocked not knowing if it was really gone or he didn't want me as a customer. I don't know. I had intentions of grabbing an Uber and going to Chicas Mileano which was close by. But I said the hell with it and went back to Mezzanine! Before I get into my next Mezzanine experience here are some other casas in the Abudubai Spa area you can visit.

Tantra Spa https://goo.gl/maps/NfGZcSStqaRvfdD86.

Chicas Mileano https://goo.gl/maps/h9sM4NihPjWtewJB9.

Pussy House https://goo.gl/maps/AXTcYfDEYD7qBL2J8.

Across from Mezzanine I noticed a nice hotel named Hotel Dan Carlton https://g.page/danncarltonbogota?share . Should I return to Bogota I am going to post up here. Right across the street from Mezzanine! And the same price as IBIS.

This time at Mezzanine I chose a MILF who looks just like Latina porn star named Kiara Marie. https://beeg.com/1291695513?t=9-429 https://bangbros.com/model52975/kiara-marie.

Guys I fucked the living hell out of this woman. She was a demon in that massage room. Dirty talk, gave me anal, let me shoot it on her face for an extra 30 K (its only $7 USD guys). What a great experience.

And with that I was hooked on the Mezzanine.

But then.

Bumble mom and daughter.

Guys I had made several Bumble contacts before I came and settled on this 19 year old COLOMBIAN (not Venezuelan for once). She was a student, lived in the Chapinero area and spoke English and we talked everyday for weeks. My second night there we had dinner at Buffalo Wings place https://goo.gl/maps/aeZoEjr66yhYExsv7.

I didn't try to get any that night as I simply wanted to have a nice dinner and meet her. The next day she invited me to her house to meet her mom and sister. Hell I have seen this before. Meet mom and the family first and then she puts out. Her mom was HOT. Hell I wanted her more than I wanted the daughter! Nevertheless I had lunch with them on their patio (I even wore a nice shirt with some Polo cologne LOL). Later that night my Colombiana called me and asked could she stop by the hotel because she was "in the area". Yeah right.

She wasn't in that room for three minutes and had her tongue down my throat. Before I knew it I was face fucking her with the bright lights of Bogota shining through the window. I fucked her twice before she left.

First thing the next morning she called and said her family wanted to take me to see Monserrate. It is a church on a mountain that you have to take a funicular to see. Her mom shows up in these short shorts that barely contained her ass. I included a photo of her mom and sisters ass as well as hers (my girl is in the blue stretch pants). Jesus I was hoping her mom would put out at some point. Anyway we had a nice day together. When I went to leave their house later that day the mom walked down to the street with me to wait for my Uber. As we round a corner to go to the street and conveniently out of view of anyone she French kisses me in the mouth and thanks me for being kind to her daughter. I then told her I can be kind to you too. She replied well we are going to look at refrigerators tomorrow and you can come and we shall see.

Ok I have heard this one before too.

Get the gringo to go shopping with you and get him to buy what you want (in this case a refrigerator). Needless to say I didn't go back the next day and they didn't even call! I never heard from the girl again. I was right about their motives!

I went back to Mezzanine a few times and I enjoyed myself. I really liked that I had an hour, a good choice of girls, a comfortable environement and only $30 a pop. I included one photo of a girl she sent though I blocked out her face. She is a nice girl.

Other notes.

Here are some great non mongering activities that are in the city:

Casa de Narino (president's house) https://goo.gl/maps/mU2ftC6zTT9B2aSe8.

Bolivar Square https://goo.gl/maps/DXwFGLeV5JBV61YJA.

Simon Bolivars house https://goo.gl/maps/pucWmQvF2byahLGF7.

Monserrate https://goo.gl/maps/MuKXbwoKmZ55huh88.

US Embassy (if you are American of course) https://goo.gl/maps/Azs47Nkt7khDVnDT8.

National Museum of Colombia https://goo.gl/maps/X15izJh5ZHFaY22D8.

Santa Maria Bullring https://goo.gl/maps/iLYfNmi3qq4rALiM6.

I never brought the Medellin milker to Bogota I mentioned in the Medellin forum. I had enough action as it was!

When you go to the airport to leave you are not required to have a COVID test but YOU ARE required to fill out the CHECK-MIG again. So do this before you leave.

Also here are a few places I ate at:

Voodoo https://goo.gl/maps/vSv3foGELydQpGK17.

Starbucks https://goo.gl/maps/Njv3mnY6fqmWGvkh7.

Wing Stop https://goo.gl/maps/UGNyvGAnMcWRSUQw8.

Final Thoughts.

Everywhere you go someone is shouting at you to wash your hands or they are squirting or spraying some unknown liquid in your hands. It was really overwhelming and with that much aggressive attitude by everyone it became annoying. Yes COVID kills and yes it is dangerous but the level of near paranoia in Bogota makes me wonder why they even opened Colombia up to travelers. I even passed a restaurant where the wait staff were in Hazmat suits.

The airport is the same. Signs everywhere and staff telling you to do this and that as it relates to COVID.

Some girls in Santa Fe wore masks and some did not. None of the ladies did at Mezzanine. Hell even what I now call The Refrigerator Girl made me wash my hands before entering her home and entering her!

I'll be back to Bogota. And I will stay in Chapinero. But after a vaccine for COVID is developed.

Showdown.

Showdown

11-03-20, 19:57

Including Refrigerator Girl and the Llama LOL.

Showdown.

DetJunky

11-03-20, 20:49

Great report.

My first trip to Bogota was quite interesting.

Would I go back?

No. Not until the pandemic has passed.

Logistics.

To enter Colombia at this time you need two things in addition to your passport.

A COVID-19 test that shows you are negative for the virus. This test must be taken atleast 96 hours before your flight departure. The test must have two things on it that are vital-the date you took the test and received the results AND must have the words SARS-CoV-2,NAA and PCR test on it. I am not a medical professional but without these two things the airlines in the USA WILL NOT let you board.

You must complete the Check-MIG form online or on the app. This form must be filled out BEFORE you fly and BEFORE you depart Colombia. On each end of your flight they will ask for it and you must show it either in printed form or on your phone. Here is the link to the form https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf.

Google Maps. Download Google maps onto your phone and download the city of Bogota so you can use it OFFLINE on your phone. What does this mean? Even if you do not have a signal your phone GPS still works and you can know where you are going and the locations you need. In addition, mark the places you want to go on Google maps so when you are walking or in the Uber you will know where you are going. This solves alot of "where this place" problems. Here is the link that explains how to download Google maps offline https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6291838?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en.

Decide your access to money options. It's easy to obtain money through an ATM but what about accessing the small bills you need? BBVA is a south American bank and was across the street from the hotel I stayed at. I went on their website weeks ago (https://www.bbvausa.com/checking-accounts/online-checking.html) and opened a simple account with an ATM card. When I got to Bogota I walked in the branch, told them how much I wanted and in what denominations and I had all I needed. No ATM machines that you have to worry about being robbed or other issues. I simply walked out of my hotel, crossed the street and in five minutes I had the cash in small denominations. And right before I left town I went back to the bank and exchanged my Colombian money for USD.

Bring your own condoms and anti-bacterial wipes. This is essential as the condoms the girls have are poor quality and for hygienic reasons bring the wipes that work best for you.

Set up an Uber account before you leave https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubercab&hl=en&gl=US . I exclusively used Uber for the whole trip and it was inexpensive and effective. I never paid more than $4 USD for any trip I took.

Have a few non mongering things to do. You can't sleep with the girls 24 hours a day. I will list those out later.

Though many have suggested Tinder I was VERY successful with Bumble https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bumble.app&hl=en_SG . I downloaded an app on my phone that can change my location https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lexa.fakegps&hl=en_US&gl=US , changed my location to Bogota and was swiping. I made ALOT of contacts with Bumble. So Download Bumble before you go. Wait until I tell you about Refrigerator girl.

Get a VPN for your phone. It will be the best $10 you can spend. If you use the airport or hotel or any public wifi you have a very good chance of being hacked. This is very serious so spend the money to get it. I use Express VPN https://www.expressvpn.com/.

Google translate. I speak Spanish so I do not need it but download it. And then download the Spanish part so you can use it OFFLINE. Again no signal no Google live translate. So if you download the offline version you can still use it. Here is the link. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.translate&26hl=en and here is the link explaining using it offline https://support.google.com/translate/answer/6142473?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en.

Connect with Woodman09 on the board. I am an experienced monger but the measly $40 I paid him to show me around Santa Fe was invaluable. He showed you where to eat, places to hang out that were safe, FYI on the girls etc. Just spend the $40 for the two hours. Totally worth it and he is a gent to boot.

Bring several masks. They are required EVERYWHERE. I bought 5 fabric ones and would hand wash them. The pollution is bad enough in places that you would want to wear one anyway.

The Flight.

When flight day came I had my COVID test results printed and on my phone as well as have completed the CHECK-MIG form which I had on my phone. At the counter and the gate they checked both of them. I saw many people turned away because they did not have the correct COVID results (see above) or had not filled out CHECK-MIG. I actually made a COVID form as getting the results in time was a near impossibility where I live. Also one thing-RAPID COVID-19 test results ARE NOT acceptable. I learned at the airport that those tests are missing something technical / medical though I can't remember what it was.

The flight itself was uneventful. Everyone wore masks and there was no food / beverage service on the flight. Overwhelmingly everyone onboard was Colombian.

Arriving in Bogota.

At the airport itself you immediately saw all the airport / customs / immigration personnel literally walking around in HAZMAT suits. Hell they almost looked like NASA astronauts. They had two stations. The first station took your temperature (interestingly enough on your wrist-I have never seen that before). Once your temperature was determined to be acceptable you went to the immigration line. Before you got to the counter one of the HAZMAT / NASA cuties checked your COVID test and your CHECK-MIG form. When you got to the immigration counter they checked both of these items again and checked your passport.

I only brought a carry on (all I needed is clothes for a few days) so I didn't need to gather luggage. As you leave the luggage area on the right are two ATM's and a currency exchange place. For the love of God do not use these currency exchange places. Major rip off. I had my aforementioned BBVA account anyhow. As I went to leave that area customs stops you (along with two menacing dogs and two heavily armed police (I was actually impressed one of them had a IWI X95 (look it up)). I was asked if I have more than 10 k USD cash with me and I laughingly said no. That was it.

I walked outside and discovered my Verizon phone did not have a signal. I walked back inside, connected to the airport wifi and then my Express VPN and hailed the Uber. You need to walk across all three lanes to the parking lot in the middle. This is where the UBER will meet you. That parking lot (I believe it is called parking lot C) is dark as hell and I noticed during my trip that UBER may say the car is blue but it is actually white etc. So pay attention to the license plate and communicate with the drive through the app. Bogota airport location for your Google maps (remember to save these on your map on your phone.) https://goo.gl/maps/bhHnmmDqxnhRvAbK9.

It was 25 k ($6 USD) from the airport to my hotel.

The Hotel.

I stayed at the IBIS Hotel Bogota https://goo.gl/maps/ADGkpCbLboEgVx7bA.

It was relatively cheap at $30 a night. I arrived late and the security guard, before he opens the locked glass entrance, makes you wash your hands at a sink just inside the door. And he watched intently you doing so. During my entire trip the staff was this way about washing your hands before entering. Sometimes they were too aggressive about it. I chose this hotel because it was modern, walking distance to Sante Fe, across from the BBVA bank and was close to Carrera 1 which is the road that can quickly take you to Chapinero where most of the casas are.

The room was sparsely furnished and was clean. The view was nice (see photos of the hotel and the view out of the room). The hotel had a low occupancy and I never ate there. The cleaning crew was annoying. They would just enter without knocking. They did this twice to my annoyance. And trust me guys these women were nothing to look at!

Money.

First thing that morning I walked out of the hotel and across the street and went to BBVA bank. https://goo.gl/maps/nnPm8wDFABrzLrYU7 They would only allow three people at a time inside the branch and when you enter they take your temperature on your wrist. I asked for $250 USD (I never even spent all of it) in small bills and I was out. Simple enough. I bought a nice waist money holder that had two zippers in which I kept my passport and phone in one and money in the other and it worked out well. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074C9QC1F/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

Woodman09 and Santa Fe.

Woodman09 arrived as he said he would at the hotel lobby. We exchanged pleasantries and began what would be an informative few hours. We walked to Santa Fe from IBIS (I actually timed it when I did it alone and it was 14 minutes walking at a brisk pace) and he explained many things along the way. He explained the various streets, the girls, a nice bakery to take a load off a nice pharmacy where I bought some medicines to take back with me to the USA that require a prescription and are expensive as hell.

Of note, I tried Viagra for the first time. It didn't do anything for me at all. I threw the other pill away.

I would suggest you do your first trip to Santa Fe in the morning. There are not as many people (yes girls are there but not as many as the day wears on) and you can get a lay of the land. If you go at night for the first time it may be a bit overwhelming.

Santa Fe reminds me a bit of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome-especially at night. Now let me make something clear. Santa Fe was NOT scary or dangerous in my opinion. I know many have said that but it is a combination of Skid Row in LA (homeless and druggies but I never had anyone bother me when alone), Soi Cowboy in Bangkok and a very busy normal street in Santo Domingo. I snapped a photo from a distance (do not openly take photos or videos down here. I saw a guy do it and several guys accosted him verbally) and have included it in this report. I never had anyone bother me. Is this a place you flash Iwatches and cash and Iphones? No. But I took my phone out when I needed it (stepped into a doorway or off to the side) and did the same when I needed some of my cash (I kept 60 K in my pocket at all times and the rest in the waist holder. This always worked out fine.) I was never bothered.

There are all types of women here. Skinny, tall, MILFS, black, very young, very old. You name it and it is there. I even saw a preggo though I did not partake. Alot of people walking around were on their way someplace walking or guys hanging out in front of their shops (barber, convenience store etc) or the girls hanging on the corner or just inside the hotels. Frankly I saw very few women I would call 10's. Most were 7 or less. They were still attractive though. Every woman I saw on this trip sans one was a Venezuelan. I noticed the older women had alot of plastic surgery and were more aggressive in trying to get your attention than the younger ones. Frankly it doesn't feel that dangerous. I can see why at night it feels different however. Too many dark corners and very dark streets. I think if you monger in this area up until it gets dark there is still a very good selection of girls. You don't need to be here late at night to get what you want. The trannies would call out sometimes but they did this to everyone. I just kept walking and they went on to bother someone else. All the clubs are closed. I don't like clubs so it was fine with me.

I only took two girls in Santa Fe. Frankly it is not for me. The first girl I took I could see she had dark areola (and indication of pregnancy or recent pregnancy so she had milk). BTW-many of the girls have see through shirts and panties on. You can see everything. Anyhow I paid her 40 K ($10) and we got a room. Not five minutes after we were in the room comes the knock at the door. Goddamn ridiculous. I told the girl why are they knocking already and she said they always did it. I was a bit flustered knowing I would just get into banging this girl and the knock would come again. I played with her tits, made her drink some of her own milk and left. Hell it's only $10. Later I chose a lovely 100 LB 20 year old dark skinned Venezuelan girl. I told her I wanted 30 minutes and I even told the lady at the hotel she was in front of that I was paying for 30 minutes. Not TEN minutes later this same old lady knocks on the door! What the hell. I opened the door and asked her what the hell was she knocking for. She just walked away. I banged the girl for a few minutes and couldn't even cum so loud was the music in the place and hearing this woman knocking on other doors.

And that was my experience in Santa Fe. Nice to look at all the girls (I also got a great haircut there a few days later for $5. There are many barbers) etc but it wasn't for me. The ambience of the room is what killed it. I didn't ask any of the girls to my hotel room but the experience with the girls would most certainly be better than the damn door knocking in Santa Fe.

Plus the casa of Chapinero is what was so much better for me (I'll get to that later).

I walked back from Santa Fe to IBIS each time along this route. It's a straight shot and I felt safe even at night. Just walk straight down Carrera 10 from the hotel and make a right onto Calle 22 and you will be in the thick of Santa Fe just a few blocks down. If you go this way when you get to this gas station that begins Santa Fe https://goo.gl/maps/YMynxR3SAeSexZG68.

Here are the corners I marked as having a lot of girls though every street did.

https://goo.gl/maps/2n5A4geZoTcoWWDeA

https://goo.gl/maps/41sRvBiRMcfMuu4J7

https://goo.gl/maps/28PhNBsz84L8p4M19

https://goo.gl/maps/nwN2CTB3SqqbGPS88

One nice thing about this area during the day. If you are walking back to IBIS go up to Carrera 7. The street is closed and there are many stores to go to including stores where you can get a SIM. Woodman09 took me to a phone store here and I quickly got a SIM with 2 GB. Walking back to IBIS (which is a straight shot from IBIS) I got a great burger and bought some souvenirs.

Chapinero.

Chapinero https://goo.gl/maps/VjDyxrQkeGvwYJQP7 is a very nice area of Bogota and where the great casas are. Should I come back to Bogota I will get a hotel here as despite the fact that many of the tourist sites are on the Santa Fe side of town. The great mongering, in my opinion, is in Chapinero.

So the next day I set out to the Mezzanine that has been mentioned here before. https://goo.gl/maps/guSG4CpdPo8q8Ngq5 . I got there in about 20 minutes in the UBER going up Carrera 1 road. The building is grey and non descript and across the street from a gas station. I've included many photos. You just walk up the steps and then you can only make a right as it's a balcony. There are four to six doors I think. Each of these small rooms has screens that show when someone is walking down the outside balcony. And then the gauntlet begins.

At each door 3-6 girls pop their heads out enticing you to come in. It's a bit overwhelming but take your time, say some nice words in Spanish and go from door to door. The doors near the end seem to be chock full of girls and they were all Venezuelan. Pay attention to what girl (s) seem interested in you rather than desperate for money. You can tell which ones it is. I chose a middle aged Vennie because after talking with them all the chemistry was there. She explained it was 100 k ($26 USD) for one hour including ejalculation. I found it hilarious she said ejalculation was included. We went to a room at the very end. The room had two massage areas in it separate by a door and a thin wall. The room with the massage table is just big enough for the table and to walk beside it. I talked to her for a few minutes (guys if you do not know Spanish you will struggle here in Bogota. Learn some before you come here in my opinion) and she really warmed up to me. Guys just don't bend her over. Ask her about her country, her kids and her family. Those three things will get them to open up and make the experience better. We had a great sexual experience (I use condoms for everything as I do not do BBBJ or BB) as I made her get on the edge of the table and I banged her front and doggy and finished by shooting on her boobs. The only thing I didn't like was the walls are so thin you can hear everything going on in the massage room next to you. In the hour I was there some girl got banged twice in that room. Some may like this but I didn't.

I liked Mezzanine so much I came back three times. I never went anywhere else (I'll explain).

Afterwards I was hungry and took an Uber to Hooters https://g.page/hooters-zona-t?share (see some more girls in short shorts) in Zona T. The food was ok and there were only two waitresses working. They take your temperature before you enter and they are social distancing tables. Afterwards I went to the Adino Shopping mall down the street just to see it https://g.page/CentroAndino?share.

I then took a UBER the short distance to Abudubai Spa which was close by https://goo.gl/maps/yMPLktX8sSCsBiaZ9 . At first I could not find it because there is no street number on any building that said 12 a-25 #77. I finally realized that there is a garage gate to the street and the end of that garage gate is a door and a buzzer. When I looked through the garage gate / door I could see the number. If you look at the Google street view of this address you will see what I mean. I rang the buzzer and a 20's something guy came to the gate. I asked him if this was Abudubai Spa and he said no. I then asked him if he knew where it was and he said no. I was a bit shocked not knowing if it was really gone or he didn't want me as a customer. I don't know. I had intentions of grabbing an Uber and going to Chicas Mileano which was close by. But I said the hell with it and went back to Mezzanine! Before I get into my next Mezzanine experience here are some other casas in the Abudubai Spa area you can visit.

Tantra Spa https://goo.gl/maps/NfGZcSStqaRvfdD86.

Chicas Mileano https://goo.gl/maps/h9sM4NihPjWtewJB9.

Pussy House https://goo.gl/maps/AXTcYfDEYD7qBL2J8.

Across from Mezzanine I noticed a nice hotel named Hotel Dan Carlton https://g.page/danncarltonbogota?share . Should I return to Bogota I am going to post up here. Right across the street from Mezzanine! And the same price as IBIS.

This time at Mezzanine I chose a MILF who looks just like Latina porn star named Kiara Marie. https://beeg.com/1291695513?t=9-429 https://bangbros.com/model52975/kiara-marie.

Guys I fucked the living hell out of this woman. She was a demon in that massage room. Dirty talk, gave me anal, let me shoot it on her face for an extra 30 K (its only $7 USD guys). What a great experience.

And with that I was hooked on the Mezzanine.

But then.

Bumble mom and daughter.

Guys I had made several Bumble contacts before I came and settled on this 19 year old COLOMBIAN (not Venezuelan for once). She was a student, lived in the Chapinero area and spoke English and we talked everyday for weeks. My second night there we had dinner at Buffalo Wings place https://goo.gl/maps/aeZoEjr66yhYExsv7.

I didn't try to get any that night as I simply wanted to have a nice dinner and meet her. The next day she invited me to her house to meet her mom and sister. Hell I have seen this before. Meet mom and the family first and then she puts out. Her mom was HOT. Hell I wanted her more than I wanted the daughter! Nevertheless I had lunch with them on their patio (I even wore a nice shirt with some Polo cologne LOL). Later that night my Colombiana called me and asked could she stop by the hotel because she was "in the area". Yeah right.

She wasn't in that room for three minutes and had her tongue down my throat. Before I knew it I was face fucking her with the bright lights of Bogota shining through the window. I fucked her twice before she left.

First thing the next morning she called and said her family wanted to take me to see Monserrate. It is a church on a mountain that you have to take a funicular to see. Her mom shows up in these short shorts that barely contained her ass. I included a photo of her mom and sisters ass as well as hers (my girl is in the blue stretch pants). Jesus I was hoping her mom would put out at some point. Anyway we had a nice day together. When I went to leave their house later that day the mom walked down to the street with me to wait for my Uber. As we round a corner to go to the street and conveniently out of view of anyone she French kisses me in the mouth and thanks me for being kind to her daughter. I then told her I can be kind to you too. She replied well we are going to look at refrigerators tomorrow and you can come and we shall see.

Ok I have heard this one before too.

Get the gringo to go shopping with you and get him to buy what you want (in this case a refrigerator). Needless to say I didn't go back the next day and they didn't even call! I never heard from the girl again. I was right about their motives!

I went back to Mezzanine a few times and I enjoyed myself. I really liked that I had an hour, a good choice of girls, a comfortable environement and only $30 a pop. I included one photo of a girl she sent though I blocked out her face. She is a nice girl.

Other notes.

Here are some great non mongering activities that are in the city:

Casa de Narino (president's house) https://goo.gl/maps/mU2ftC6zTT9B2aSe8.

Bolivar Square https://goo.gl/maps/DXwFGLeV5JBV61YJA.

Simon Bolivars house https://goo.gl/maps/pucWmQvF2byahLGF7.

Monserrate https://goo.gl/maps/MuKXbwoKmZ55huh88.

US Embassy (if you are American of course) https://goo.gl/maps/Azs47Nkt7khDVnDT8.

National Museum of Colombia https://goo.gl/maps/X15izJh5ZHFaY22D8.

Santa Maria Bullring https://goo.gl/maps/iLYfNmi3qq4rALiM6.

I never brought the Medellin milker to Bogota I mentioned in the Medellin forum. I had enough action as it was!

When you go to the airport to leave you are not required to have a COVID test but YOU ARE required to fill out the CHECK-MIG again. So do this before you leave.

Also here are a few places I ate at:

Voodoo https://goo.gl/maps/vSv3foGELydQpGK17.

Starbucks https://goo.gl/maps/Njv3mnY6fqmWGvkh7.

Wing Stop https://goo.gl/maps/UGNyvGAnMcWRSUQw8.

Final Thoughts.

Everywhere you go someone is shouting at you to wash your hands or they are squirting or spraying some unknown liquid in your hands. It was really overwhelming and with that much aggressive attitude by everyone it became annoying. Yes COVID kills and yes it is dangerous but the level of near paranoia in Bogota makes me wonder why they even opened Colombia up to travelers. I even passed a restaurant where the wait staff were in Hazmat suits.

The airport is the same. Signs everywhere and staff telling you to do this and that as it relates to COVID.

Some girls in Santa Fe wore masks and some did not. None of the ladies did at Mezzanine. Hell even what I now call The Refrigerator Girl made me wash my hands before entering her home and entering her!

I'll be back to Bogota. And I will stay in Chapinero. But after a vaccine for COVID is developed.

Showdown.

Rambo95

11-04-20, 04:18

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=314794&d=1604429823

Including Refrigerator Girl and the Llama LOL.

Showdown.

TomJackin

11-04-20, 05:47

Great report.You do not have to copy the whole damn report to say, "Great report."

BTW Showdown, thank you for the outstanding report!

Showdown

11-04-20, 12:46

You do not have to copy the whole damn report to say, "Great report. ".

BTW Showdown, thank you for the outstanding report!Thanks Tom and everyone who PM'd me. This board has been invaluable over the years and I hope my report helps others in the future.

Showdown.

Mr Enternational

11-04-20, 16:15

She replied well we are going to look at refrigerators tomorrow and you can come and we shall see.

Ok I have heard this one before too.

Get the gringo to go shopping with you and get him to buy what you want (in this case a refrigerator). Needless to say I didn't go back the next day and they didn't even call! I never heard from the girl again. I was right about their motives!Great report. I tell them call me when you finish.

I don't even shop at malls my damn self. I buy everything online. No way I am about to walk around a mall with a chick. Unfortunately, in a lot of places that is really all there is to do and the only suggestion most chicks can come up with.

Prelude141

11-04-20, 19:25

Very nice report from showdown. Thanks.

You mentioned that the pussy house can be visited in the area of chapinero. Is this club open? And is the club just in front of the pussy house open as well? Can. T remember the name but it's a 2 stairs club. I visited those 2 twice in 2018 and 2019 and would like to know of they have re open after the lockdown, I had a nice time there.

Also FYI the chica milenio was already closed in summer of 2019, so that's not new. The casa just across the street in front of the chica milenio closed as well but I noticed that casas open and close everyday so better to walk through the streets to find out where the are.

Xpartan

11-05-20, 04:36

And I am not sure about Colombia but here in the USA sex prison, I am not seeing near the number of sick as shit Covid people as in July. Yeah, I know the numbers are as high as ever, but it seems like Covid now is on par with or a little worse than the flu. It sure was not 3, 4 months ago, so outside of avoiding people who look sick and are running a fever, nothing has changed for me.It's not "a little worse than the flu. " Wasn't 3 months ago and is not today. It's still 10 times deadlier than the flu. If you're talking about the lower death rate, that's because doctors have learned to treat it better. Death rate, however, is not the only metric. There are survivors who will likely have all kinds of chronic diseases for years if not for life.

Let's not lie to ourselves. Simply avoiding people who look sick is not going to cut it.

Showdown

11-05-20, 17:20

YyzTravel

11-05-20, 19:09

There are like 10 different appts claiming to be "seeking arrangements" for iPhone as well as like 5 different "sites" on the web. Anyone who has used one before with some success mind sharing which one?

NRandom940

11-06-20, 00:49

Game Plan: Skokka.com, Mileroticos.com. Many of the ads seem to be spas and mini-brothels in apartments.

There's been a few spas mentioned here also. Might check those out.

Any suggestions?

Chica Chaser

11-06-20, 07:32

They attack you because you give them the opportunity to do so. Will they attack for example in parque Lleras? No they won't. Will they attack inside a mall? No. Will they attack in a small alley even if you have eyes on your back? Probably. Do your eyes save you? No.I wouldn't be so sure about where you won't get attacked. One afternoon in Medellin last year, at about 4 or 5 PM, one or two teenagers or young men were threatening another guy about the same age. One guy had a knife raised and slashed downwards multiple times threatening the guy. This went on for about a minute that I saw. Mind you, a crowd had already gathered in a semi-circle around the guys. Just watching. Probably thirty or forty people just standing back like ten feet watching. Many many others walking past each way. Minding their own business. This all happened just off Las Palmas on the pedestrian only street Junin, in centro.

I watched too, and thought about how rapidly a confrontation with someone with "just," a knife could go very bad, very quickly. That said, with eleven trips of three to five weeks to Colombia, I've yet to have any trouble. I'm white, 6' 2" but skinny, middle aged first trip but now 60. So I stand out as an obvious "rich," foreigner. Maybe my height scares would be robbers off to seek easier prey. Maybe because I never wear jewelry or watches I've been ruled out when thieves have been scanning for targets. I don't know. I hope my luck continues but I guess it could happen that one moment I've fine; next I'm bleeding out while telling myself, "This can't be happening!

Chica Chaser

11-06-20, 07:41

We had to wait in along line to be processed for Colombia, while Mexico the Dominican Republic and other countries were flying through because they did not require a PCR. Colombia is causing so much trouble and expense for a lot of visitors an nationals alike.Mexico has no covid restrictions. In other words, one would imagine there's a higher chance of a Mexican bringing covid with them than an American or Canadian. Yet Mexicans didn't need a PCR test? The mind boggles.

(I say "didn't," need a PCR test because apparently the PCR test requirement was or soon will be removed.).

Chica Chaser

11-06-20, 07:44

Mongering is the antithesis of social distancing.Not if you have a ten foot pole!

Routard

11-06-20, 14:57

Excellent report Showdown! The first and only one since March. I even learned a couple of things, such as the possibility to get cash from a BBVA desk with a BBVA account abroad. I also have never used Bumble in Colombia, didn't know it could work. And yes you are right, even if you always can get laid, there is no fun spending time in Bogota during the pandemic. I live here, cannot travel, so I just try to focus on my business and earn as much money as I can in order to spend it again when things get back to normal. Very funny your story with the refrigerator girl. That's the good part of Bogota, it's not only about mongering, anything can happen. Do you realize you could have fucked daughter AND mum for the price of a refrigerator? Haha!!

GrownMan1

11-06-20, 18:58

. Do you realize you could have fucked daughter AND mum for the price of a refrigerator? Haha!!Now that's some cold shit.

Mr Enternational

11-06-20, 19:39

Do you realize you could have fucked daughter AND mum for the price of a refrigerator? Haha!!Fuck that. I did it in Thailand for $50.

Bango Cheito

11-06-20, 20:39

Bango Cheito

11-06-20, 20:42

Fuck that. I did it in Thailand for $50.Done that here too. It's not as hard as people think.

Yonkers44

11-06-20, 21:03

Mr Enternational

11-06-20, 21:28

Here in Bocachica over an span of three days I fucked mother, daughter and niece for 6,200 DOP, same price I paid for a just delivered microwave. The 18's know about the mother, she does not know about me and the teens.I am in Boca Chica right now. Where them hoes at?

DonCarlos1234

11-06-20, 23:11

Game Plan: Skokka.com, Mileroticos.com. Many of the ads seem to be spas and mini-brothels in apartments.

There's been a few spas mentioned here also. Might check those out.

Any suggestions?I did some research on these same services. (In between SA girls) and a few seem legit & doable. Might also look into the Love Motels. Good luck and enjoy! Ask Woodman for a tour, it's worth it.

IronQuinn

11-06-20, 23:26

Done that here too. It's not as hard as people think.To each his own, brother. The daughter: yes, the mother: hell no. That's gross as shit. I had that opportunity for free in Nicaragua. I asked the daughter out who was a friend of somebody staying at the same hotel I was. We hung out for the day, and went back to her place. I met her two sisters and mother, the father had left years ago. After eating a nacatamale, the mother came onto me! I looked at her like wtf? I'm not screwing some 38-year-old, way too old. I keep my range 18-22. I was hoping one of the sisters would be up for it, but she wasn't. More power to you though.

ShadowJ

11-06-20, 23:27

I've been to Bogota twice and stayed at the Tequendama both times. I like the comfort of the hotel and the proximity to Santa Fe. The main problem I've experienced is they don't admit Venezuelan girls (none of them have passports apparently) to the rooms. I hate the dirty rooms the street girls take you to in Santa Fe.

1. Can anybody confirm with certainty that this is not the case with Tequendama Suites or San Francisco?

2. Are there any Airbnbs nearby that don't make you do the walk of shame or at least will let a Venezuelan chick in with her cedula? All I really need is a clean homebase near Santa Fe to shower and relax between rounds.

3. Are guest policies even stricter post-covid?

JjBee62

11-07-20, 00:11

I did some research on these same services. (In between SA girls) and a few seem legit & doable. Might also look into the Love Motels. Good luck and enjoy! Ask Woodman for a tour, it's worth it.Just clarifying that you understand what a love motel is. Your post appears to suggest you're considering the love motels as some type of brothel.

It's simply a motel or hotel that rents rooms short term. I think the standard in Bogota is 4 hours, but it's been a few years since I researched. You have to provide your own girls.

It's a good option if you're staying somewhere that doesn't allow guests. Check first because they may not all be open. There are several close to Pussy House.

Bango Cheito

11-07-20, 00:30

Bango Cheito

11-07-20, 00:31

I am in Boca Chica right now. Where them hoes at?Boca Chica, qué chica? LOL.

Bango Cheito

11-07-20, 00:31

To each his own, brother. The daughter: yes, the mother: hell no. That's gross as shit. I had that opportunity for free in Nicaragua. I asked the daughter out who was a friend of somebody staying at the same hotel I was. We hung out for the day, and went back to her place. I met her two sisters and mother, the father had left years ago. After eating a nacatamale, the mother came onto me! I looked at her like wtf? I'm not screwing some 38-year-old, way too old. I keep my range 18-22. I was hoping one of the sisters would be up for it, but she wasn't. More power to you though.I dunno man, there's something about seeing a girl lick the place she was born from.

TopoChico571

11-07-20, 03:16

As of November, how safe is Santa Fe (la zona) area compared to El Centro / Botero area in Medellin? Thanks.

IrishA

11-07-20, 05:56

1. Can anybody confirm with certainty that this is not the case with Tequendama Suites or San Francisco?

Tequendama Suites will allow I've stayed there a few times before.

Mdemde

11-07-20, 07:03

Of note, I tried Viagra for the first time. It didn't do anything for me at all. I threw the other pill away.

Great report, and you seem like an intelligent person, but I'll ask anyway; did you read the instructions? Were they real? Could have been fakes, if you bought them from a peddler on the street then they are most likely fakes. If you can achieve an erection without a pill, why would you even think about taking one? What did you hope to achieve? If you have trouble getting an erection then best to take it on an empty stomach, don't mix it with alcohol, and wait for at least 30 to 60 minutes, and then you need to be sexually aroused in the normal way, eg being with a female and engaging in foreplay or by looking at a porn video. You won't get an erection by simply looking at your dick!

Woodman09

11-07-20, 07:56

Some of the clubs are open secretly -- Atonis for one -- Have not gone myself, But I hear it is pretty good. Seems like there have been a few less girls on street so they are probably in clubs.

ShadowJ

11-07-20, 14:42

1. Can anybody confirm with certainty that this is not the case with Tequendama Suites or San Francisco?

Tequendama Suites will allow I've stayed there a few times before.Awesome. Thanks for that. How was the wifi there? It gets bad reviews but I haven't seen anything in the last 5 years.

Kazeu

11-07-20, 22:44

Showdown

11-07-20, 23:09

I intentionally brought ONE credit card to Bogota with me to avoid anything bad happening. I use this card every few months just to show activity(I buy a stick of gum or something).

So surprise today when I see THREE charges made for Amazon and ONE charge made for a charity with no internet web presence (I got SMS notifications on my phone so I knew instantly). These charges were all made within minutes of each other this morning. I called the bank and they said the charges are pending but they would cancel the card and send another. And if the charges did post their would assist me in getting a fraud report and having the charges reversed. The total charges came up to $225.

I only used my card over a week ago in Bogota at five places that I thought would be safe:

1. Buffalo Wild Wings: Av Calle 116 ##15 b-62, Bogot, Colombia.

2. Hooters: Cra. 13 #83-24, Bogot, Cundinamarca, Colombia.

3. Starbucks: Ac. 82 #11-42, Bogot, Colombia.

4. The shop in the airport once you past security (its pretty large).

5. Uber(but that is through the app so I dont believe it was Uber)

Now given these were all businesses and not some random store, I watched them bring the card reader to me and I swiped my card myself. I figured I would be safe using them there (three of the places are chain stores).

Obviously I was wrong. If I had used the card someplace else in the USA or carried the card all the time I would not be surprised. But one of these four places has a thief there selling or using customers credit card information. When I wasn't using the card I had it in a RFID pouch. Funny how you can fraudulently use a credit card with no three digit number from the back and no customer zip code.

I've never had this happen before so its a bit of a shock. But lesson learned. Nevertheless be wary at these businesses. Their is a thief afoot!

Showdown.

Showdown

11-07-20, 23:22

Great report, and you seem like an intelligent person, but I'll ask anyway; did you read the instructions? Were they real? Could have been fakes, if you bought them from a peddler on the street then they are most likely fakes. If you can achieve an erection without a pill, why would you even think about taking one? What did you hope to achieve? If you have trouble getting an erection then best to take it on an empty stomach, don't mix it with alcohol, and wait for at least 30 to 60 minutes, and then you need to be sexually aroused in the normal way, eg being with a female and engaging in foreplay or by looking at a porn video. You won't get an erection by simply looking at your dick!Woodman took me to a pharmacy in Santa Fe that he has used previously and I purchased the Viagra. I don't think your purchase option can be more legitimate in Colombia. And Woodman discussed how to use the pill as you described and I did just that. It simply made no difference when I visited the casa after taking it 1. 5 hours previously.

I was curious, took it and it was not effective for me. Case closed.

Showdown.

IronQuinn

11-08-20, 00:02

Now given these were all businesses and not some random store, I watched them bring the card reader to me and I swiped my card myself. I figured I would be safe using them there (three of the places are chain stores).Use cash for absolutely everything, taxi rides to hotels, and you'll never have to worry about those problems. That's all I've ever done at home and abroad, and it works perfectly.

LatinaLover#1

11-08-20, 01:10

I intentionally brought ONE credit card to Bogota with me to avoid anything bad happening. I use this card every few months just to show activity(I buy a stick of gum or something).

So surprise today when I see THREE charges made for Amazon and ONE charge made for a charity with no internet web presence (I got SMS notifications on my phone so I knew instantly). These charges were all made within minutes of each other this morning. I called the bank and they said the charges are pending but they would cancel the card and send another. And if the charges did post their would assist me in getting a fraud report and having the charges reversed. The total charges came up to $225.

I only used my card over a week ago in Bogota at five places that I thought would be safe:

1. Buffalo Wild Wings: Av Calle 116 ##15 b-62, Bogot, Colombia.

2. Hooters: Cra. 13 #83-24, Bogot, Cundinamarca, Colombia.

3. Starbucks: Ac. 82 #11-42, Bogot, Colombia..I have never used a sleeve and I've been using my CC for years in Colombia. I have used it on Uber, Hooters and Buffalo Wild wings, never a problem. Carrying cash in Bogota is not the best idea either. What I do is keep most of my cash in a account without a debit card and only transfer as much cash as I need into the debit card. I've had more problems on Seeking Arrangement with an online cash app than I have anywhere else. Stay away.

LatinaLover#1

11-08-20, 01:33

https://www.reportur.com/colombia/2020/11/04/viajeros-internacionales-ya-no-necesitan-pruebas-pcr-negativas/

But you still need to do to do Check-Mig https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf.

Hopefully they will stop squirting all of these unknown gels / sprays all over your hands and arms LOL.

Showdown.If you still need that Migration-app and it asks you to down load a covid test Then I guess you still need the covid test. Yes? Or I I missing something here?

TopoChico571

11-08-20, 21:12

I only took two girls in Santa Fe. Frankly it is not for me...Not five minutes after we were in the room comes the knock at the door. Goddamn ridiculous. I told the girl why are they knocking already and she said they always did it...I told her I wanted 30 minutes and I even told the lady at the hotel she was in front of that I was paying for 30 minutes. Not TEN minutes later this same old lady knocks on the door! What the hell. I opened the door and asked her what the hell was she knocking for. She just walked away. I banged the girl for a few minutes and couldn't even cum so loud was the music in the place and hearing this woman knocking on other doors.Are all the rooms like this in Santa Fe (rushed)? Hotel Botero in Medellin (Centro) was about fifteen mil for two hours, while the hotels where the girls would stand in front of were the same rushed experience. Are there any hotels in Santa Fe that are like Hotel Botero?

Also, how much is an hour for a Santa Fe chica? Thanks.

NRandom940

11-08-20, 21:53

I contacted an ad from Mileroticos. She looked good in the ad (don't they all) although no face pics. She looked not as good in person but decent enough to proceed. I'm tired of this fake picture nonsense everywhere I go.

She could barely give head without hitting me with her teeth. Her pussy was dry as hell. I asked if she could use some lubrication and she used some hand lotion instead of proper lubrication.

Her face has such a look of boredom on it that I just quit after a few minutes without getting off.

ShadowJ

11-08-20, 22:55

Are all the rooms like this in Santa Fe (rushed)? Hotel Botero in Medellin (Centro) was about fifteen mil for two hours, while the hotels where the girls would stand in front of were the same rushed experience. Are there any hotels in Santa Fe that are like Hotel Botero?

Also, how much is an hour for a Santa Fe chica? Thanks.You can pay a little more for more time. The problem with most of the rooms, IMO is how dirty and disgusting they are. At least in Tijuana, you usually have some sort of facilities to wash your dick off. No such luck in SF.

I've found that the girls are willing to do quite a bit for double their standard charge.

Showdown

11-08-20, 23:04

You can pay a little more for more time. The problem with most of the rooms, IMO is how dirty and disgusting they are. At least in Tijuana, you usually have some sort of facilities to wash your dick off. No such luck in SF.

I've found that the girls are willing to do quite a bit for double their standard charge.In my second instance I did pay for more time and they still knocked on the door early. For me I would never go back to Santa Fe and use one of their rooms. I would have to find a girl that was willing to go someplace where I wasn't rushed. And the rooms didn't seem very hygienic to me either. But I guess what can you expect for a room that's designed for this? It's not the Ritz-Carlton.

Showdown.

Woodman09

11-08-20, 23:14

You can pay a little more for more time. The problem with most of the rooms, IMO is how dirty and disgusting they are. At least in Tijuana, you usually have some sort of facilities to wash your dick off. No such luck in SF.

I've found that the girls are willing to do quite a bit for double their standard charge.I don't know Where / when you were in SF last-- Many of the hotels actually have remodeled and have very nice rooms-- And I have never been in one that did not have a bathroom-- usually cold water tho.

Mr Enternational

11-08-20, 23:59

If you still need that Migration-app and it asks you to down load a covid test Then I guess you still need the covid test. Yes? Or I I missing something here?Just upload some BS instead of that if it does not let you advance without uploading something.

NRandom940

11-09-20, 00:23

TopoChico571

11-09-20, 00:36

In my second instance I did pay for more time and they still knocked on the door early. For me I would never go back to Santa Fe and use one of their rooms. I would have to find a girl that was willing to go someplace where I wasn't rushed. And the rooms didn't seem very hygienic to me either. But I guess what can you expect for a room that's designed for this? It's not the Ritz-Carlton.

Showdown.

You can pay a little more for more time. The problem with most of the rooms, IMO is how dirty and disgusting they are. At least in Tijuana, you usually have some sort of facilities to wash your dick off. No such luck in SF.

I've found that the girls are willing to do quite a bit for double their standard charge.Damn, so there's no hotel in SF where you can rent a room for 2 hours with a shower for like 15 mil? Does Hotel San Francisco do hourly rooms? Thanks.

ShadowJ

11-09-20, 00:59

Damn, so there's no hotel in SF where you can rent a room for 2 hours with a shower for like 15 mil? Does Hotel San Francisco do hourly rooms? Thanks.Right in the middle of SF, there is a place called Santa Fe suites. Location is perfect. But I took a tour of the rooms and it was like a crack house inside. Worse than some of the short time motels around.

ShadowJ

11-09-20, 01:04

Right in the middle of SF, there is a place called Santa Fe suites. Location is perfect. But I took a tour of the rooms and it was like a crack house inside. Worse than some of the short time motels around.It's one area where mongering is clearly superior in Asia. They have an abundance of clean convenient accommodations for mongers. It would be cool if somebody fixed some apartments up nice in the zona and opened it up for rent.

Woodman09

11-09-20, 04:46

Damn, so there's no hotel in SF where you can rent a room for 2 hours with a shower for like 15 mil? Does Hotel San Francisco do hourly rooms? Thanks.Actually there are a few decent hotels there-- Also nearby. You definitely could find a place for 2 hours probably cost like $30 mil.

Ho Lover1

11-09-20, 04:56

Damn, so there's no hotel in SF where you can rent a room for 2 hours with a shower for like 15 mil? Does Hotel San Francisco do hourly rooms? Thanks.This hotel is located at Carrera 15 No 22 -25. I have stayed overnight at this place numerous times. Street chicas always taking dates to their rooms. I haven't been back to Bogota in a year. Check the place out and advise us of their current policy.

TopoChico571

11-09-20, 12:16

I don't know Where / when you were in SF last-- Many of the hotels actually have remodeled and have very nice rooms-- And I have never been in one that did not have a bathroom-- usually cold water tho.Very nice. These are hourly hotels in SF? Are they legit hourly or knocking every 5 minutes until they rush you out of there? Thanks.

ShadowJ

11-09-20, 14:24

This hotel is located at Carrera 15 No 22 -25. I have stayed overnight at this place numerous times. Street chicas always taking dates to their rooms. I haven't been back to Bogota in a year. Check the place out and advise us of their current policy.Do they have hot water?

Google lists it as Hotel Residencias Normandia Ltda.

I guess I've just been spoiled by the infrastructure in Asia and in San Jose Costa Rica back when you could bring girls to the Hotel Presidente.

YyzTravel

11-09-20, 16:17

Does anyone know if any of the clubs up in ZonaT are starting to open back up? Planning a trip down there in Dec and while I'm hearing casas are opening back up, not sure how much things are still closed down.

The Tall Man

11-09-20, 17:05

I only took two girls in Santa Fe. Frankly it is not for me. The first girl I took I could see she had dark areola (and indication of pregnancy or recent pregnancy so she had milk). BTW-many of the girls have see through shirts and panties on. You can see everything. Anyhow I paid her 40 K ($10) and we got a room. Not five minutes after we were in the room comes the knock at the door. Goddamn ridiculous. I told the girl why are they knocking already and she said they always did it. I was a bit flustered knowing I would just get into banging this girl and the knock would come again. I played with her tits, made her drink some of her own milk and left. Hell it's only $10. Later I chose a lovely 100 LB 20 year old dark skinned Venezuelan girl. I told her I wanted 30 minutes and I even told the lady at the hotel she was in front of that I was paying for 30 minutes. Not TEN minutes later this same old lady knocks on the door! What the hell. I opened the door and asked her what the hell was she knocking for. She just walked away. I banged the girl for a few minutes and couldn't even cum so loud was the music in the place and hearing this woman knocking on other doors.

And that was my experience in Santa Fe. Nice to look at all the girls (I also got a great haircut there a few days later for $5. There are many barbers) etc but it wasn't for me. The ambience of the room is what killed it. I didn't ask any of the girls to my hotel room but the experience with the girls would most certainly be better than the damn door knocking in Santa Fe.
Are all the rooms like this in Santa Fe (rushed)? Hotel Botero in Medellin (Centro) was about fifteen mil for two hours, while the hotels where the girls would stand in front of were the same rushed experience. Are there any hotels in Santa Fe that are like Hotel Botero?

Also, how much is an hour for a Santa Fe chica? Thanks.Much love and respect to all and certainly SF is not for everyone nor the faint of heart. I look at SF as a place you just need to experience and see for yourself if it fits your style. It is what it is.

And gawd I all too well know that knock on the door BS that is prevalent in SF. This is the biggest draw back for me not being excited about my next visit. I usually visit Bogota once or twice a year and always need to get my fix in with SF hoes.

Last year I took a girl upstairs from one of the clubs, I think Atunes, and paid for 30 minutes then at the 15 minute mark that sorry ass * madam knocked on my door and I went fucking haywire, I cursed and cussed so much, picture the Tall Man standing naked with a half hard-on in the hallway yelling at that puta mamsan, that they called the bouncer on me, fuck them all, I am bigger and stronger than that bouncer and was livid. Well I did calm down and dressed and spoke to the manager, that POS, spoke again to the two bouncers at the door, these poor slobs were only doing their job and actually I returned a few hours later to apologize to the bouncer, he was cool, go square with him.

The point is the dreaded knock on the door, not at the 25 minute mark, no but 15 minutes into it.

I scared the holy mother of jesus out of my poor girl, poor thing a cute slender very pretty newer chica bar girl. I took care of her as it was not her doing.

Gawd how I hate the time limits and this was in a legitimate bar and some some 5 mil for 20 minute skank dirty room on the street.

BTW I can't wait to return to SF as we all love these bitches, hehehehehe.

The Tall Man.

Ho Lover1

11-09-20, 22:42

Do they have hot water?

Google lists it as Hotel Residencias Normandia Ltda.

I guess I've just been spoiled by the infrastructure in Asia and in San Jose Costa Rica back when you could bring girls to the Hotel Presidente.I got my hotel info off of an old business card. I stayed there the end of last year. I never had a problem getting hot water. You can check out the room before renting.

NRandom940

11-10-20, 00:00

I went to a place with 10 girls to choose from. Had a 3 some with 22 yo and 23 yo for 300,000 cop. 350,000 after the voluntary tip.

TopoChico571

11-10-20, 02:15

... paid for 30 minutes then at the 15 minute mark that sorry ass * madam knocked on my door...Gawd how I hate the time limits and this was in a legitimate bar and some some 5 mil for 20 minute skank dirty room on the street.

BTW I can't wait to return to SF as we all love these bitches, hehehehehe.Haha, it's an adventure I guess. You were completely in the right. How much did this supposed "30 minute" room cost? How much might an "hour" cost? If a guy showed up with a stopwatch (not on a phone) as a way to avoid the knock, would they think he's nuts?

I got my hotel info off of an old business card. I stayed there the end of last year. I never had a problem getting hot water. You can check out the room before renting.So is Hotel Residencias Normandia an hourly hotel? Are there other hourly options within SF / La Zona?

Prelude141

11-10-20, 08:56

I went to a place with 10 girls to choose from. Had a 3 some with 22 yo and 23 yo for 300,000 cop. 350,000 after the voluntary tip.This is overpriced, be careful you are making the market more expensive for all mongers including you.

YyzTravel

11-10-20, 12:39

I went to a place with 10 girls to choose from. Had a 3 some with 22 yo and 23 yo for 300,000 cop. 350,000 after the voluntary tip.Where was this place?

ShadowJ

11-10-20, 13:23

December 6-12. My first time back. Indeed my first mongering trip in over a year. Can't wait to leave my genetic mark on some Santa Fe spinners.

Allied

11-10-20, 14:21

Woodman,

Do you still have some vids up on you tube?

NRandom940

11-10-20, 19:39

Where was this place?Am I allowed to leave a WhatsApp number on here? I forgot which ad it was on Skokka.

YyzTravel

11-10-20, 22:32

Am I allowed to leave a WhatsApp number on here? I forgot which ad it was on Skokka.I don't think so, but you can PM me, and I will go and find the ad for everyone, and then repost it for everyone. That work?

Elvis 2008

11-10-20, 23:06

Last year I took a girl upstairs from one of the clubs, I think Atunes, and paid for 30 minutes then at the 15 minute mark that sorry ass * madam knocked on my door and I went fucking haywire, I cursed and cussed so much, picture the Tall Man standing naked with a half hard-on in the hallway yelling at that puta mamsan, that they called the bouncer on me, fuck them all, I am bigger and stronger than that bouncer and was livid.I did not have too much fun there either. It is much cheaper to play in the club then out, but I had several different bad experiences.

I may sound like I snob here, but the rooms and beds at these clubs are so disgusting and so uncomfortable, I was able to cum like one of the eight or ten times I went inside of them. It really distracted from the experience. My knees felt like they were on carboard instead of a bed. Then my legs seemed to bang onto the frame at the end of the bed in one place. I only busted a nut one time when I was in the club, and it was with a girl I had seen before.

Woodman showed me a newer hotel in SF that was decent but most of the places I have gone with streetwalkers were better than the clubs but they were barely been above sanitary as well.

What I have found is you go to the club rooms for a test drive and then invite the women back to Ibis for the best experience. For all the playing with SBs, I found two hot Vennie coke working girls who were the best in the sack the first time I went to Bogota. One girl I rushed away because I had a date (and wished I had not) and the other stayed the night for $80, and that was one of the best experiences of my life. That Vennie could suck, fuck, and move like no other, and she was smoking hot to boot.

JonSnow1

11-11-20, 00:12

The street girl's hotels offer 1 hour stays for 20 mil. You'd have to negotiate the length of time / rate with girl.

Santa Fe Hotels. Pre-covid.

Santa Fe suites. Rooms were 30-40 mil all night. They'd ask for a photocopy of your ID / passport. Charge 10 mil per "guest" and ask to see her ID.

Hotel Normandia - 30 mil all night. Don't ask for your ID. Charge 10 mil per "guest" and sometimes ask to see her ID. This place has some working girls. Softer bed.

Hotel Troya - 40-50 mil all night. Ask for your ID. Charge 10 mil per "guest" and ask to see her ID. Rooms have kitchenette and fridge.

I would usually book a room at one of these hotels all night and bring girls there. It's easier if you session with them prior to build some trust / get their number. My club Troya chick would meet me at the hotel before her shift. These hotels have hot water. But sometimes it's out of service (Santa Fe Suites had this issue). Take a pair of flip flops to protect your feet in the shower / bathroom. WIFI at all the hotels, although Normandia was undependable.

YyzTravel

11-11-20, 15:40

This is overpriced, be careful you are making the market more expensive for all mongers including you.What is the current market rate? I'm sure it's different between Santa Fe - Chapinero - ZonaT, but just looking for a general idea here of what to look to pay for casas, short time and TLN.

Cm6363

11-11-20, 18:31

To enter Colombia at this time you need two things in addition to your passport.

A COVID-19 test that shows you are negative for the virus. This test must be taken atleast 96 hours before your flight departure. The test must have two things on it that are vital-the date you took the test and received the results AND must have the words SARS-CoV-2,NAA and PCR test on it. I am not a medical professional but without these two things the airlines in the USA WILL NOT let you board.

You must complete the Check-MIG form online or on the app. This form must be filled out BEFORE you fly and BEFORE you depart Colombia. On each end of your flight they will ask for it and you must show it either in printed form or on your phone. Here is the link to the form https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf.Great report. Just wanted to update everyone on entry requirements. You no longer need a CoVid19 test.

https://co.usembassy.gov/message-for-u-s-citizens-limited-resumption-of-routine-american-citizen-services-2/

You can also check United's website:

https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/international-map.html

The Migracion application is still required.

https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf

Safe travels gents.

LatinaLover#1

11-11-20, 20:38

Great report. Just wanted to update everyone on entry requirements. You no longer need a CoVid19 test.

https://co.usembassy.gov/message-for-u-s-citizens-limited-resumption-of-routine-american-citizen-services-2/

You can also check United's website:

https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/international-map.html

The Migracion application is still required.

https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf

Safe travels gents.So riddle me this Batman, the Swab test is no longer needed to travel but since the App is still required for travel and the App has a requirement to upload your NEGATIVE Covid test how does one complete the App without a Covid test. Makes you want to say hummmm Are the inmates in charge?

JjBee62

11-11-20, 21:41

So riddle me this Batman, the Swab test is no longer needed to travel but since the App is still required for travel and the App has a requirement to upload your NEGATIVE Covid test how does one complete the App without a Covid test. Makes you want to say hummmm Are the inmates in charge?Go directly to the Migración website and fill out the form there. I just did it Monday night. There's no requirement to upload a test result. Took me 10 minutes. Would have taken me 3 minutes, except I had clicked on the wrong Medellin airport and couldn't figure out why it couldn't find my flight.

ShadowJ

11-12-20, 00:01

Kazeu

11-12-20, 11:57

What is the current market rate? I'm sure it's different between Santa Fe - Chapinero - ZonaT, but just looking for a general idea here of what to look to pay for casas, short time and TLN.

Santa Fe (Street chicas) - 30 k - 50 k. Room included.

Chapinero (casas) - 30 minutes = 60 k - 100 k, 1 HR = 80 k - 140 k.

ZonaT. Dunno.

Kazeu

11-12-20, 12:01

Kazeu

11-12-20, 12:09

Haha, it's an adventure I guess. You were completely in the right. How much did this supposed "30 minute" room cost? How much might an "hour" cost? If a guy showed up with a stopwatch (not on a phone) as a way to avoid the knock, would they think he's nuts?

So is Hotel Residencias Normandia an hourly hotel? Are there other hourly options within SF / La Zona?I don't think they would care about your stopwatch. Official time is in their heads, not your watch unfortunately. Some say you can tip the lady something small to avoid the early knock.

Personally, I checked out a room at Residencias Normandia and it wasn't up to standard for me.

The rooms in Santa Fe are generally so cheap, if you want extra time just rent a room for a night. You can get room for 30 k for the night and you can bring a chica back there and leave after you're done. No knock. Of course the session might cost a bit more.

Elvis 2008

11-13-20, 07:01

In addition to hitting Santa Fe hard, I'd like to try some other things.

1. Is there a primer on how to use SA in Colombia (SA is a terrible search term)? Can I assume any girl who says "no strings attached" is available as a hooker? What rates are reasonable?I get the question ShadowJ in that you get nowhere in the sex prison without a dollar amount. In Colombia, many if not most of the women I reached out to had only met a guy from the site once or twice if ever. I would try to get with women who are new to the site and you can see them without committing to a $ amount. If they ask for a specific amount, then assume they are working girl like and treat them as such. I would say that $60 for a 8, $80 for a 9, and $100 for a 10 is a fair price. I would bail if they ask for more than that. Granted, if you are just about getting the best sex for the fewest $$, head to Santa Fe, and you can pay a fraction of that amount.

The debate everyone has with SA is that all the women on there are working girls. Outside of independently wealthy women, I know few women who did not consider the financial status of a guy prior to sleeping with them. Thing is with SA is that you are much more likely to find higher quality women. I have met lawyers, beauty queens, students in every field of study, and hell even an orthodontist on SA.

The argument that you are wasting $100 a month on SA when you can get plenty of pussy for that $100 is true if all you are after is sex. Thing is that if you want more than just sex than the SA membership is worth it. Sure there are some totally $$ driven women on there, but there are also women who are a joy to be with as much out of bed as in it.

Thing with SA in the USA sex prison in its heyday was that I did not have a problem finding stunning, amazing women, but they all had issues (drug use, mental illness, huge amounts of debt). In Colombia, most of the hot women I met did not have near the issues that the USA women had. Granted, SA in the sex prison sucks now, and I am sure it will in Colombia some day as well. But for now, it is as good as it gets IMO.

LatinaLover#1

11-13-20, 13:10

Everyone knows what SA is used for. Every girl on there will accept money. Rates will range wildly, according to other posts it can be from free to hundreds of USD. Depends on the girl, you, and what you're asking for. Just make sure you take the negotions off SA. Ask for whatsapp and make negotiations there.

Someone here mentioned skokka.com.Kaz is correct. I haven't been much involved in SA in recent years but I had a lot of years experience with the Sugar babies. One, some are pros, stay away. The best are young moms and students, preferably with a job. And as Koz said, always negotiate in person. Never over SA.

ShadowJ

11-13-20, 17:10

Kaz is correct. I haven't been much involved in SA in recent years but I had a lot of years experience with the Sugar babies. One, some are pros, stay away. The best are young moms and students, preferably with a job. And as Koz said, always negotiate in person. Never over SA.I'm going down there for a week. Post-Covid, I'the like to do a week every 3 months or so.

So, all-in-all, is SA too much of a time investment for short trips like mine. I like a mix of mongering opportunities. Santa Fe and Escorts. I figure a college girl as a dinner companion and fuck buddy wouldn't be bad if I knew it was a pretty sure thing. But when I only have a week to bust as many quality nuts as possible, I don't want to waste a whole evening.

TopoChico571

11-13-20, 18:14

I don't think they would care about your stopwatch. Official time is in their heads, not your watch unfortunately. Some say you can tip the lady something small to avoid the early knock.

Personally, I checked out a room at Residencias Normandia and it wasn't up to standard for me.

The rooms in Santa Fe are generally so cheap, if you want extra time just rent a room for a night. You can get room for 30 k for the night and you can bring a chica back there and leave after you're done. No knock. Of course the session might cost a bit more.Thank you. Didn't know they were that cheap for the night. What SF hotels do you recommend at or near that price?

Mr Enternational

11-13-20, 18:22

Thing is with SA is that you are much more likely to find higher quality women. I have met lawyers, beauty queens, students in every field of study, and hell even an orthodontist on SA.

The argument that you are wasting $100 a month on SA I have been doing that same thing on Cupid for almost 16 years and for 1 year costs me what SA costs for 1 month. I think it was February that I posted the report of the dentist that worked on my mouth for free in Barranquilla, then worked on my dick for the same price.

3 weeks ago I stayed at a charge nurse's condo in Bogota. The only arrangement they were seeking was a nice guy. Me and the dentist had planned to take a trip to Cancun last May before Covid hit. And of course she would have been paying her own way unlike how it tends to work from reports of SA.

I always tell the story of my first time ever in Colombia was to meet a lawyer that I met on Cupid. She rode the bus 14 hours to Bogota from Cucuta to pick me up at the airport. Her cousin who was a lawyer in Bogota came with her to the airport. He showed us around that first night then left us alone. At the time I did not speak any Spanish and she did not speak English. I remember bringing some pocket translator that I bought at Target that was not worth a damn and a pocket Spanish-English dictionary. I ended up returning the translator when I got back.

NeilGeorge

11-14-20, 01:39

I have been doing that same thing on Cupid for almost 16 years and for 1 year costs me what SA costs for 1 month. I think it was February that I posted the report of the dentist that worked on my mouth for free in Barranquilla, then worked on my dick for the same price.

3 weeks ago I stayed at a charge nurse's condo in Bogota. The only arrangement they were seeking was a nice guy. Me and the dentist had planned to take a trip to Cancun last May before Covid hit. And of course she would have been paying her own way unlike how it tends to work from reports of SA.

I always tell the story of my first time ever in Colombia was to meet a lawyer that I met on Cupid. She rode the bus 14 hours to Bogota from Cucuta to pick me up at the airport. Her cousin who was a lawyer in Bogota came with her to the airport. He showed us around that first night then left us alone. At the time I did not speak any Spanish and she did not speak English. I remember bringing some pocket translator that I bought at Target that was not worth a damn and a pocket Spanish-English dictionary. I ended up returning the translator when I got back.OK, get to the point. Did you have sex with the lawyer? Was she any good?

Madra Bid Dog

11-14-20, 02:19

I went to a place with 10 girls to choose from. Had a 3 some with 22 yo and 23 yo for 300,000 cop. 350,000 after the voluntary tip.Dude,

You are getting ripped and definitely overpaying. I can get models for all nighters for much less than that. Don't overpay.

Madra Bid Dog

11-14-20, 05:21

I'm going to be in Bogota the last week of November. And heading back to Santa Fe to take a stroll. Anybody heading that way a the end of the month?

GauntMan

11-14-20, 07:01

Thank you. Didn't know they were that cheap for the night. What SF hotels do you recommend at or near that price?Normally, I do not stay in SF. I book something in Chapinero and then move where I want to go. Airbnb has been great for me, since I speak fluent spanish, I've had no problems. Normally I look for places that do not have the, "No guests, No prostitution" and work from there. Once in the area I make sure to become friends with the security guards at the front desks, throw a coffee or some beers and you should be good. Also being a good neighbor helps alot!! No parties and the like, some music and the like is normal but just don't push it.

Questner

11-14-20, 23:50

Dude,

You are getting ripped and definitely overpaying. I can get models for all nighters for much less than that. Don't overpay.Again pay scale police in action. No, you can't get model quality girls in Bogota for TLN 'for much less than that'.

Kazeu

11-15-20, 02:04

Again pay scale police in action. No, you can't get model quality girls in Bogota for TLN 'for much less than that'.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but the original post said nothing about TLN nor model quality girls.

If you can get a real model for 300k TLN I would say you got lucky. IMO though, most guys on here have not been with real models. They look nice, but models, I don't think so. I don't count girls who happen to have a portfolio or got some free studio shots as models. To model, a model is someone who works full time having their picture taken. Otherwise, half the girls I've been with are models. Exagerating, but you get what I mean.

Kazeu

11-15-20, 02:13

Thank you. Didn't know they were that cheap for the night. What SF hotels do you recommend at or near that price?The nicest motel in the area is a bit more expensive, but its clean and theres hot water. I've stayed there for multiple days at a time before. Its called Costa Dorado. Walk north to the end of carrera 16. Its the last building on the left. Theres no real signage outside, you just walk into the garage and there will be a guard there. Theres an office there too. I think its 50 k for 12 hrs and 70 k for the night. I think its also possible to get 4 hrs but I don't know how much that costs. Not as cheap as the others in the area, but a step above in class. It might be 2 stars instead of 1 star LOL.

Buckeye63

11-15-20, 03:18

I'm going to be in Bogota the last week of November. And heading back to Santa Fe to take a stroll. Anybody heading that way a the end of the month?I will be there from the 21st to the 26th. I am a newbie to Colombia so I only have the info I read on this forum and another forum but if you would like to meet up for a drink and compare notes while in Bogota I am available. I am working on purchasing a subscription for this site now so I can send and receive PM's. Let me know if you are interested.

MarquisdeSade1

11-15-20, 04:10

Dude,

You are getting ripped and definitely overpaying. I can get models for all nighters for much less than that. Don't overpay.Can I ask the prices you pay and what venues?

Zannny

11-15-20, 06:09

Hi,

Just want to say I appreciate the people posting reports, especially Woodman, Routard and WorldTraveler69 for their efforts.

I read about 50 pages, back from 2019 up to when people started mention the virus that has taken over our lives (and every forum).

I'm planning my visit / long-term retirement. Looks likely I'll do 2 months first in Bogota, then Medellin then Pereira. I think Pereira has a good mix of what I want in a retirement location, less pollution and smaller than Medellin, while still close enough to Bogota that I can visit Santa Fe the same way I would go to Angeles City when I lived in Manila (but honestly I had enough free pussy in Manila).

So here is just a taste of the info I have collected:

1) Routard's latest FAQ: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1#post2241562.

2) If you want a tour of Santa Fe, subscribe to ISG then send a message to http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/member.php?261339-Woodman09.

3 a) WorldTraveler69 Maps for North: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=4.703915718162311%2C-74.04540605000005&z=13&mid=1Y7d556oDwhh_X83ZCec7ItKPaXQ.

3 b) WorldTraveler69 Maps for Central: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=4.661574410677932%2C-74.10110514999997&z=14&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA.

3 c) WorldTraveler69 Maps for South: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=4.62792499704242%2C-74.10891029999999&z=13&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM.

4) Someone says Nanxing spa has the best lineup: https://twitter.com/NanxingSpa.

5) Price Quotes "Santa Fe girls are about 50-60 k for / 20 min. BUT Rushed service non-GFE service in Santa Fe. You only get 20 minutes in theory but in reality, that loud knock comes after 10 or max 15 minutes. ".

"Prices for bar girls were from 40,000-50,000 ($12-15) while street girls went from 20,000 - 40,000 ($6-12). Those have to be the best prices anywhere in the world. 30 and 40K are the 2 numbers I hear most often."

"I hear 40K around the main square block. I hear 30K around the outskirts. I have gotten most chicks in Santa Fe to agree to 100 K for all night."

"I usually pay street girls in Santa Fe 30 mil for the service and hotel. The locals told me that's an ongoing rate. Around cl20, its 26 mil."

6) This Casa has an interesting website as it has photos / videos and prices: https://www.adrianaysusgolosas.net/mis-golositas/.

I got lots of other little tips but I don't want to plagiarize. Have run out there.

Omicron Gamma

11-15-20, 17:08

Has anyone on ground heard any news about the clubs opening back up in January?

I was in Bogota in March this year and it was an amazing week going to the Santa Fe clubs nightly, lots of beauties in both Paisas and Feibre. Met up with Woodman too and he is as good as advertised. Best week of monger if I have had and can't wait to go back.

Questner

11-16-20, 00:07

Please correct me if I am wrong, but the original post said nothing about TLN nor model quality girls.

If you can get a real model for 300k TLN I would say you got lucky. IMO though, most guys on here have not been with real models. They look nice, but models, I don't think so. I don't count girls who happen to have a portfolio or got some free studio shots as models. To model, a model is someone who works full time having their picture taken. Otherwise, half the girls I've been with are models. Exagerating, but you get what I mean.Original quote was 'I can get models for all nighters for much less than that. ' and 'all nighters' means TLN and 'that' meant in the post: 300,000 COP.

The prices of real models are beyond this forum, please let's agree on it. 'Model quality' or 'model type' is achievable, or by paying much more for all night (your typical tourist rates sourced from the clubs or agencies) or by being a long term resident or repeat visitor who can source and build connections, or by sheer luck.

Santa Fe has no models or model type girls, let's not be delusional, it's a fun rough place where locals steam off after their day shift.

GauntMan

11-16-20, 00:45

Santa Fe has no models or model type girls, let's not be delusional, it's a fun rough place where locals steam off after their day shift.Apologies, but I have found magazine type of girls in Santa Fe. I pulled a solid raven haired tattoed (I love inked girls) babe, not a little girl, she could be in her 30 somethings. A couple of beers, some chat (I speak spanish) and off we went to my apartment in chapinero, I managed to get all nighter for 300 k, the next weeks we hanged out and went clubbing like nothing happened before and of course there was sex but this time, there was no money involved. Up to this day she chats me every now and then via FB, she is in europe right now.

Woodman09

11-16-20, 01:43

Apologies, but I have found magazine type of girls in Santa Fe. I pulled a solid raven haired tattoed (I love inked girls) babe, not a little girl, she could be in her 30 somethings. A couple of beers, some chat (I speak spanish) and off we went to my apartment in chapinero, I managed to get all nighter for 300 k, the next weeks we hanged out and went clubbing like nothing happened before and of course there was sex but this time, there was no money involved. Up to this day she chats me every now and then via FB, she is in europe right now.Yeah, You are correct sir-- Many Beautiful girls -Model Types' in Santa Fe-- this quester doesn't know WTF he is talking about.

Kazeu

11-16-20, 01:45

Mr Enternational

11-16-20, 01:52

Original quote was 'I can get models for all nighters for much less than that. ' and 'all nighters' means TLN and 'that' meant in the post: 300,000 COP.

The prices of real models are beyond this forum, please let's agree on it. 'Model quality' or 'model type' is achievable, or by paying much more for all night (your typical tourist rates sourced from the clubs or agencies) or by being a long term resident or repeat visitor who can source and build connections, or by sheer luck.

Santa Fe has no models or model type girls, let's not be delusional, it's a fun rough place where locals steam off after their day shift.The problem I have with that is what is a model besides someone that walks down a runway and advertises shit? Models look the way they look because the person that does their makeup and hair make them look that way. Just look on the internet for pictures of them with no makeup and their hair pulled back and you would not touch half those broads with a 10 foot pole.

Guys become in love with the fantasy. Same as porno chicks. You would not fuck half of those chicks with your worst enemy's dick if you saw them without makeup. My buddy married a famous one and when I saw her normal in person I was like what the fuck.

Tons of chicks on these instagrams and shit have learned the game how to fix themselves up. Go get you a cheap ass Santa Fe chick and make your own model. But of course it does away with the fantasy and illusion and mystique when you see how the sausage is made.

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshh0r3Q6kkeuQg6eDGC

MarquisdeSade1

11-16-20, 02:39

The problem I have with that is what is a model besides someone that walks down a runway and advertises shit? Models look the way they look because the person that does their makeup and hair make them look that way. Just look on the internet for pictures of them with no makeup and their hair pulled back and you would not touch half those broads with a 10 foot pole.

Guys become in love with the fantasy. Same as porno chicks. You would not fuck half of those chicks with your worst enemy's dick if you saw them without makeup. My buddy married a famous one and when I saw her normal in person I was like what the fuck.

Tons of chicks on these instagrams and shit have learned the game how to fix themselves up. Go get you a cheap ass Santa Fe chick and make your own model. But of course it does away with the fantasy and illusion and mystique when you see how the sausage is made.

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshh0r3Q6kkeuQg6eDGCMany guys like to believe their own lies.

That's just the way it is, just be glad we aren't like them.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/porn-stars-without-makeup_n_2853817

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/05/porn-stars-without-make-up-before-after_n_3393980.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANK_WIoNhOJu0m-tRjQyURglXUaUMzPVx7IAwyNkTl2P_22yD8er-SSWZtZQ_AxM1iGa7GRzcUxAQkqil-10NoSC9h-W6Y4k9sRdP13VHBUMCg8Uzmbanr19AgPQay6n8hObI6d-jpcxH52bR9teCMa8VaLF-MJ7BgE3vjBKW-HJ

99% of them make me want to vomit, sad to admit I've ever wasted a load to them.

I've spent several weeks in Tijuana at a time and would see the hookers from HK all day long at oxxo etc etc, they made me ill to my stomach LOL.

To think I paid to fuck some of them OMGGGG.

Rextor

11-16-20, 14:36

JjBee62

11-16-20, 17:04

LOL all yall really trying to convince yourselves that models are just like any other girl + makeup? Then why isn't every girl a model, if it's so easy.

Sure the makeup adds an extra level, bit yall kissing yourselves if you think models aren't genetically blessed with near perfect facial symmetry and bone structure and amazing fitness (which is earned through daily effort).

I assure you true models (in a magazine or something, not just some girl who fucked a photographer) are a different breed, and you'll find none at HK club.I wouldn't necessarily say a different breed, but you're on the right path. Ask any fashion photographer. The camera can spot the difference.

Beauty is very subjective. I've had guys tell me some woman is gorgeous, but to me she's just average, and vice versa. Looking like a model doesn't make a woman a model. One man's opinion doesn't make a woman a model. A woman yesterday told me I looked like an actor on her favorite Netflix series, doesn't mean I can act. I've had others tell me I look like a famous musician, but being told that never improved my guitar playing.

What it boils down to is:

1. Is she beautiful to you?

2. Will she fuck you?

3. Is she in your price range?

If you need to tell yourself you just banged an undiscovered supermodel, then run with that. Just don't get offended when everyone rolls their eyes at you.

TopoChico571

11-16-20, 17:11

Mr Enternational

11-16-20, 17:58

One man's opinion doesn't make a woman a model.Hugh Hefner would have probably disagreed with that.

Sure the makeup adds an extra level, bit yall kissing yourselves if you think models aren't genetically blessed with near perfect facial symmetry and bone structure and amazing fitness (which is earned through daily effort).Yep.. Because the head of a modeling agency took a look at these pictures and said Eureka, we have finally found that rare symmetry!

Showdown

11-16-20, 18:31

Well the continued use of a USA BBVA card / account to use BBVA banks in Colombia to exchange money is over. USA bank PNC just bought the BBVA USA arm.

https://www.ft.com/content/42a97547-d857-465d-afd3-7f5b7c9c4d74

Showdown.

MarquisdeSade1

11-16-20, 19:35

LatinaLover#1

11-16-20, 20:58

How bad is the weather in Bogota compared to Medellin? 55 degrees doesn't sound that bad. Does it rain a lot more?

The main draw is SF is supposed to be much more populated than Botero (as well as the city as a whole).Medellin, the land of eternal spring, is much different to Bogota. Bogota was cold and rainy yesterday. On days when there is no rain I enjoy the city. The sun can be strong because of the altitude but I prefer a cooler climate. Nice days in Bogota can be between 65 and 75, for me the worst part of Bogota is the altitude. At over 8,000 feet it will take you a day or two to acclimate. Depending on your partner you may run out of gas in the middle of a intense session. Jaja The climate can change on the same day. Not uncommon to go to the mall in Unicentro in the middle of a beautiful afternoon and come out of the mall during rush hour and be cold and rainy. Bring long sleeves and short sleeves so your prepared.

Flak3

11-16-20, 22:42

Yep.. Because the head of a modeling agency took a look at these pictures and said Eureka, we have finally found that rare symmetry!Over 40 years of age and motherhood have always been the criteria for supermodels. Just like Namath, Jordan and Nolan Ryan are still premier athletes today. I'm guessing you look better now than 30 years ago too.

Dressing up a $10 hooker and calling her a supermodel is like putting lipstick on a pig.

JjBee62

11-17-20, 00:23

Hugh Hefner would have probably disagreed with that.Not many supermodels got their start in Playboy, none that I can recall. A lot of b movie actresses, porn stars and such, started there. Then there were the aging actresses who needed money. Not many models though.

Unless, of course, you're going to say anyone who has had a photo published is a model. In that case I'm changing my name to Mr GQ.

Actually your Hefner remark proves my point. Compare the body types, hairstyles and makeup of Playboy centerfolds through the decades, then compare to top fashion models and it's quite obvious one man's standard of beauty did not define beauty.

Madra Bid Dog

11-17-20, 00:37

I will be there from the 21st to the 26th. I am a newbie to Colombia so I only have the info I read on this forum and another forum but if you would like to meet up for a drink and compare notes while in Bogota I am available. I am working on purchasing a subscription for this site now so I can send and receive PM's. Let me know if you are interested.I'll be in the area on the 25th Santa Fe is a great place to get nice tails at a bargain price! Hit me up. Anybody else coming?

Questner

11-17-20, 01:23

Yeah, You are correct sir-- Many Beautiful girls -Model Types' in Santa Fe-- this quester doesn't know WTF he is talking about.I know you're scraping the bottom of the barrel, which is fine. The beauty of this forum is in its democracy, fucking is open to everyone.

Woodman09

11-17-20, 01:29

I know you're scraping the bottom of the barrel, which is fine. The beauty of this forum is in its democracy, fucking is open to everyone.So tell us Mr Expert, When was the last time you were there-- How many nights have you spent in Santa Fe in the last 6 months?

TopoChico571

11-17-20, 03:28

How close should I stay to SF? I don't want to spend an hour to get there from where I am.

Thank you LatinaLover#1, Kazeu, and GauntMan for your helpful replies.

But there are some good looking girls. The better looking ones work inside the clubs.How much are the ones inside the clubs?

Kazeu

11-17-20, 10:47

Medellin, the land of eternal spring, is much different to Bogota. Bogota was cold and rainy yesterday. On days when there is no rain I enjoy the city. The sun can be strong because of the altitude but I prefer a cooler climate. Nice days in Bogota can be between 65 and 75, for me the worst part of Bogota is the altitude. At over 8,000 feet it will take you a day or two to acclimate. Depending on your partner you may run out of gas in the middle of a intense session. Jaja The climate can change on the same day. Not uncommon to go to the mall in Unicentro in the middle of a beautiful afternoon and come out of the mall during rush hour and be cold and rainy. Bring long sleeves and short sleeves so your prepared.Depressing and gloomy. I've been here for 8 days now. I can't remember a single day where it didn't rain. Theres no comparisonn to medellin weather. If you want happy days and stuck up paisas go to Medellin for sure. If you want more venezolanas and can handle the shit weather, Bogota is great!

Kazeu

11-17-20, 10:50

How close should I stay to SF? I don't want to spend an hour to get there from where I am.

Thank you LatinaLover#1, Kazeu, and GauntMan for your helpful replies.

How much are the ones inside the clubs?Depends which club. I can't remember exactly. Its been awhile since I've been in any of the clubs. A lot of it depends on the girls, the pricing depends on them. La piscina was the most expensive by far at close to 200 k. The others range from 70 to 120.

Kazeu

11-17-20, 11:16

I had an interesting experience yesterday with a photoprepagos chic. I had inquired about her services. And after what seemed like a normal conversation. She sent me some "angry" emoticons. I asked her what was wrong and she said that I was playing with her feelings. I apologized and said I didn't mean to do that. Even though I'm not sure how I that could have happened. She then started demanding that I send her 300 k via bank transfer or she would make a lot of trouble for me by posting that I try to have sex with minors all over the various social networks. Just to be clear I never deal with any minors. 18 and up for me always. I steer clear of jailbait. She sent me a screenshot of my own whatsapp profile pic, threatening to post it with the pedophilia acusation. Then she started calling me and demanding that I respond to her. I tried to appease her by playing along with her a bit, but she seemed to get only angrier. At that point I blocked her on whatsapp.

This freaked me out a bit. Even though I knew that the this was probably just a scam, I kept having thoughts of what if I try to session with a chica from photopreagos that happened to be a friend of hers and they try to set me up for some scam. What if she really does send my foto around facebook and some rando person recognizes me and tries to retaliate.

On my way to a session in Santa Fe, I found myself looking over my shoulder far more than usual.

I met up with my chica, who I had sessioned with before and explained to her what happened. She told me to relax and that it was just a scam, but I was still a bit freaked out. I took her to motel costa dorada (35 k for 3 hrs by the way). Session was good, she's one of the only girls I break my no babies rule for. She's just too sweet and has a great ass. Minimal baby damage. Anyways, she offered to call the scammer chick and tell her to stop bothering me. I was a bit hesitant because I didn't want to aggravate the scammer even more, but I unblocked the scammer and gave my chica the phone anyways. She sent her a few voice messages claiming to be my novia and telling the scammer to quit bothering me. She called her a few times with no response. On the third call the scammer chick picked up. My chica then explained that I'm not going to pay for anything. We never even met. Why would I pay for anything. I don't pay for chatting and I did not recieve any services. The scammer claimed that she had a date that she lost because she was chatting with me and thus I owed her 300 k. Even though during our chat we had no mention any concrete appoinitment, I was only asking prices and services.

Anyways. The scammer seemed to back off after the call from my "novia".

Lesson of the day. Don't use any real photos on your whatsapp profile!

I've attached pictures of the scammer from her phoprepagos ad. I'm not sure if these are her real pictures as I never met her. They do not show up google image search.

Oh. One last thing, my chica spoke to the scammer over speaker, so I could hear what they were saying. The scammer sounded a lot like a guy, or a guy pretending to be a girl.

Kazeu

11-17-20, 11:34

How close should I stay to SF? I don't want to spend an hour to get there from where I am.

Thank you LatinaLover#1, Kazeu, and GauntMan for your helpful replies.

How much are the ones inside the clubs?Staying directly in santa fe is an experience in itself. There is something magical about being able to step outside your hotel / motel and get laid immediately, but it is not for everyone. My chica from yesterday from santa fe kept trying to tell me that no one gets robbed in santa fe. Hahahah. I told her about the shooting that happened on my first night ever in santa fe, about my friend getting his iphone picked out of his pocket by some chica passing by. About the knife fight that broke out randomly. This was a serious knife fight, west side story style. I had never seen anything like it in my life.

So yea, it is not for everyone. If santa fe is going to be your main entertainment venue, I would stay as close as you can possible handle. I know a few members like Hotel San Francisco. I can recommend Hotel Oceania, big rooms with large windows and lots of sunlight. But neither of these hotels are chica friendly. So keep that in mind. But they are an easy walk to santa fe. If you can walk slightly further. Hotel Ibiis is also popular and was guest friendly before the pandemic. I'm not sure what their guest policy is now though. Hotels are being required to go through all this pandemic safety theatre. All hotels are required to make their guest fill out some health questionaire. Hotel Oceania was taking my temperature everyday. If you don't want the hotel hassle. Maybe an airbnb would be a better bet, but there are no real good airbnbs close to santa fe.

TopoChico571

11-17-20, 12:36

Very sorry to hear about your troubles. Thanks for sharing though. Good reminder to be on guard for scams.

Yea, I plan to go AirBnb. I guess Chapinero isn't too far. 20 minute bus ride each way. But might try something walking distance.

Routard

11-17-20, 13:26

Definitively the best way of getting rid of a girl that is bottering you for whatever reason, let her deal with your novia even a fake novia. In your case, I highly doubt it was a girl anyway, from what I can see on the picture. This explains why he / she choose to go for a scam as she would not have got the 300 k with sex once you see her dick.

Turgid

11-17-20, 15:27

ApplesApples

11-17-20, 16:08

I'll be in Bogota in a few days, does anyone know which santa fe clubs have opened up or the other clubs like Pussy House?

Mr Enternational

11-17-20, 17:43

I had an interesting experience yesterday with a photoprepagos chic. I had inquired about her services. And after what seemed like a normal conversation. She sent me some "angry" emoticons. I asked her what was wrong and she said that I was playing with her feelings. I apologized and said I didn't mean to do that. Even though I'm not sure how I that could have happened. She then started demanding that I send her 300 k via bank transfer or she would make a lot of trouble for me by posting that I try to have sex with minors all over the various social networks.

Lesson of the day. Don't use any real photos on your whatsapp profile!

Psychological warfare. So if she could put your picture up and say those things she could put any random person's picture up and say anything. You are afterall a random person. And there are billions of people on this planet. Do you think she is going to send it to your local news station for posting on the evening news? Saying what exactly? What gives this person any credibility? If you did send 300 K, why would they not keep asking for 300 K everyday here on out? Do not let them fuck with your head like that. When one person does not fall for the scam, they move on to the next. Scammers are not thinking about the person they tried to scam 3 weeks ago and it didn't work. And another thing, stop falling for bullshit ass pictures online. Pick someone with normal ass pictures, not ones that look like touched up glamorshots. I use a dual whatsapp without my picture to communicate with website hookers.

My chica from yesterday from santa fe kept trying to tell me that no one gets robbed in santa fe. Hahahah. I told her about the shooting that happened on my first night ever in santa fe, about my friend getting his iphone picked out of his pocket by some chica passing by. About the knife fight that broke out randomly. This was a serious knife fight, west side story style. I had never seen anything like it in my life.
Dang brother, you must be walking around with some bad luck in your pocket. In 15 years I have not seen a darn thing happen in Santa Fe. Seen a guy get pistol whipped once in Vila Mimosa in Rio once though. Only thing I ever seen happen there in all these years. Of course you have to watch out for pick pockets anywhere on the planet. That does not really count.

IronQuinn

11-17-20, 18:14

If that's a photo of a guy then I better stay at home.That made me laugh, man. Good one. But, I've got a serious question here out to anyone: Why bother with online shopping? Think about it. Many times on here I've seen guys complain that the girl didn't look like she did in the picture, or there's drama, or something else didn't go right. In this age, pictures can be manipulated so much, you can't ever trust them. Why not just go down to Santa Fe, or a casa up north, and get a girl there? It's cheaper, no hassle, and you get to see what you're paying for. Imagine that. The only reason I can possibly think of is that you want the "GFE". Which, to me, paying a girl even more to pretend to be your girl is just ridiculous. If you want a GFE, get an actual girlfriend. I know, it sounds crazy. At home, if I want a girlfriend, I get one, it's not that hard, been doing it since jr. High. When I travel, I go out and bang chicks once, and then move on to the next one. There's never any drama or issues. This seems like a no brainer to me. Can anyone shed light on this online shopping backward logic?

JjBee62

11-17-20, 19:27

That made me laugh, man. Good one. But, I've got a serious question here out to anyone: Why bother with online shopping? Think about it. Many times on here I've seen guys complain that the girl didn't look like she did in the picture, or there's drama, or something else didn't go right. In this age, pictures can be manipulated so much, you can't ever trust them. Why not just go down to Santa Fe, or a casa up north, and get a girl there? It's cheaper, no hassle, and you get to see what you're paying for. Imagine that. The only reason I can possibly think of is that you want the "GFE". Which, to me, paying a girl even more to pretend to be your girl is just ridiculous. If you want a GFE, get an actual girlfriend. I know, it sounds crazy. At home, if I want a girlfriend, I get one, it's not that hard, been doing it since jr. High. When I travel, I go out and bang chicks once, and then move on to the next one. There's never any drama or issues. This seems like a no brainer to me. Can anyone shed light on this online shopping backward logic?Nope. You've already stated that your mind is made up on the subject, so nothing anyone can say will change that. It's just like my vegetarian friend asking me why anyone would eat meat. I can talk about steaks and barbecue and sushi all I want, but he's not going to run out and eat any of it.

Why would anyone fuck a woman with a fake ass or fake boobs? Why would anyone fuck a fat, skinny, short, tall, dark, light, long haired, short haired, tattooed or non tattooed girl? Why would anyone fuck a woman over 30 or under 20?

Because, just like the online option, it's what some guys prefer.

I've taken several guys to El Centro in Medellin, talked about it with others. Some guys love it. Some guys are okay with it, but aren't interested. Some guys say "it's scary. " I've told lots of guys how to use Facebook in Medellin. Some think it's the greatest thing ever and some think it's stupid.

One of the great things about Colombia is there's something for every taste and every budget. There's the clubs and the streets, casas and massage parlors, escort services and online ads, plus the girls on Twitter, Facebook and dating sites.

Look at it this way:

If every monger in Bogota gave up every other source except Santa Fe, you would have more competition and less gems available.

LatinaLover#1

11-17-20, 21:54

Psychological warfare. So if she could put your picture up and say those things she could put any random person's picture up and say anything. You are afterall a random person. And there are billions of people on this planet. Do you think she is going to send it to your local news station for posting on the evening news? Saying what exactly? What gives this person any credibility? If you did send 300 K, why would they not keep asking for 300 K everyday here on out? Do not let them fuck with your head like that. When one person does not fall for the scam, they move on to the next. Scammers are not thinking about the person they tried to scam 3 weeks ago and it didn't work. And another thing, stop falling for bullshit ass pictures online. Pick someone with normal ass pictures, not ones that look like touched up glamorshots. I use a dual whatsapp without my picture to communicate with website hookers.

Dang brother, you must be walking around with some bad luck in your pocket. In 15 years I have not seen a darn thing happen in Santa Fe. Seen a guy get pistol whipped once in Vila Mimosa in Rio once though. Only thing I ever seen happen there in all these years. Of course you have to watch out for pick pockets anywhere on the planet. That does not really count.But never saw any real problems at either. Usually the bosses keep a tight grip on things, they don't want anything getting in the way of selling the girls. I'll bet the guy who got pistol whipped was beat by one of the bosses. I never felt that SF was as tightly controlled as the other to places in Rio and lima.

LatinaLover#1

11-17-20, 22:06

Depressing and gloomy. I've been here for 8 days now. I can't remember a single day where it didn't rain. Theres no comparisonn to medellin weather. If you want happy days and stuck up paisas go to Medellin for sure. If you want more venezolanas and can handle the shit weather, Bogota is great!Hey Kaz, I'll be back in Bogota on Nov 27, the famous day after thanksgiving trip.) I feel bad your in the shit but I hope it ends by the time I get there. Hehe When the city is wide open you can find things to do but in this half ass shut down it can get real boring. I've hade my share of rain and cold for 7 straight days in Bogota but also 4.

Straight of rain in SAI sucked!

Questner

11-18-20, 00:33

So tell us Mr Expert, When was the last time you were there-- How many nights have you spent in Santa Fe in the last 6 months?None in the last 6 months, and actually I'm comfortable by not spending time in Santa Fe district because there are better places. Since you profit from the venue you have to be an honest guide, and everyone should be OK with it as long the terms are clear. Every visitor to Bogota should pay at least one visit to Santa Fe, it's unique, fun and colourful place and you can have a romp there for your glorious 15 minutes with a 'chaparrita' of your liking. But let's not deflect from my point: there are no models or model types there. You don't need to be an expert in it, and in any case to claim yourself to be an expert on few hundred yards of red light district is kind of shallow. I've attached a recent photo of a civilian, a 'model type of a girl'.

NRandom940

11-18-20, 03:22

Kazeu

11-18-20, 13:37

Psychological warfare. So if she could put your picture up and say those things she could put any random person's picture up and say anything. You are afterall a random person. And there are billions of people on this planet. Do you think she is going to send it to your local news station for posting on the evening news? Saying what exactly? What gives this person any credibility? If you did send 300 K, why would they not keep asking for 300 K everyday here on out? Do not let them fuck with your head like that. When one person does not fall for the scam, they move on to the next. Scammers are not thinking about the person they tried to scam 3 weeks ago and it didn't work. And another thing, stop falling for bullshit ass pictures online. Pick someone with normal ass pictures, not ones that look like touched up glamorshots. I use a dual whatsapp without my picture to communicate with website hookers.
All of that makes complete sense. Sometimes in the moment though, logic goes out the window. I learned a valuable lesson about having my picture on my whatsapp profile.

Dang brother, you must be walking around with some bad luck in your pocket. In 15 years I have not seen a darn thing happen in Santa Fe. Seen a guy get pistol whipped once in Vila Mimosa in Rio once though. Only thing I ever seen happen there in all these years. Of course you have to watch out for pick pockets anywhere on the planet. That does not really count.Hahah. I will concede that all those events happened over a span of 7 years and many trips to santa fe, but the statistics are still not good. Its all relative of course. Relatively, Santa Fe is one of the more sketchy / dangerous areas on Bogota.

Kazeu

11-18-20, 13:43

I have had scams before where they send me photos of mutilated and decapitated bodies. They say they will do it to me and my family if I don't send them "the money I owe them. " I Googled this and found that it's a common scam. I even found a YouTube clip of a news report containing the exact images that were sent to me. They were blurred out, but I could recognize them.

This is what inspired me to pay $10/ month for Sideline app where I can use dual text, WhatsApp, etc. With a fake number of my choosing that I can change anytime I want.The sideline app seems interesting. Are you able to choose a colombian number?

Kazeu

11-18-20, 13:50

None in the last 6 months, and actually I'm comfortable by not spending time in Santa Fe district because there are better places. Since you profit from the venue you have to be an honest guide, and everyone should be OK with it as long the terms are clear. Every visitor to Bogota should pay at least one visit to Santa Fe, it's unique, fun and colourful place and you can have a romp there for your glorious 15 minutes with a 'chaparrita' of your liking. But let's not deflect from my point: there are no models or model types there. You don't need to be an expert in it, and in any case to claim yourself to be an expert on few hundred yards of red light district is kind of shallow. I've attached a recent photo of a civilian, a 'model type of a girl'.My personal opinion only. She looks more like a girl next door type that turned amateur model. I know nothing about her, but that would be my guess. You can find this type of girl in santa fe. To me when people say model types I assume people mean 9's or 10's, if they don't mean the girl is an acutal working model. I have never met a 9 in santa fe. I have never met a 10 ever in my life. Without a better pictue I would put the girl in the picture at face: 8. Body: 7 (not into skinny types). I have seen some 8's working in the clubs. 8's are nothing to look away from. 8's are damn good. I have not fucked an 8 on this trip yet. Most of my sessions in santa fe's have been with 7's or less. These are all physical ratings. A good attitude goes a long way and can really make the session much better.

Kazeu

11-18-20, 14:03

That made me laugh, man. Good one. But, I've got a serious question here out to anyone: Why bother with online shopping? Think about it. Many times on here I've seen guys complain that the girl didn't look like she did in the picture, or there's drama, or something else didn't go right. In this age, pictures can be manipulated so much, you can't ever trust them. Why not just go down to Santa Fe, or a casa up north, and get a girl there? It's cheaper, no hassle, and you get to see what you're paying for. Imagine that. The only reason I can possibly think of is that you want the "GFE". Which, to me, paying a girl even more to pretend to be your girl is just ridiculous. If you want a GFE, get an actual girlfriend. I know, it sounds crazy. At home, if I want a girlfriend, I get one, it's not that hard, been doing it since jr. High. When I travel, I go out and bang chicks once, and then move on to the next one. There's never any drama or issues. This seems like a no brainer to me. Can anyone shed light on this online shopping backward logic?This is a really good point, that I've started thinking about more since I moved to chapinero to take advantage of all the mileroticos girls in the area. I had an awful session with a milertoicos chica yesterday. Pictures looked good, but when I arrived it was apparent that since taking her mileroticos pictures she had decided to breath and let air into her lungs. Thiis allowed her fat stomach to finally bulge out. It was also apparent that she had applied heavy filters to her photos. Lots of stretch marks on her legs and her skin did not seem so smooth. Ok, so what. It was 60 k for 30 minutes. Whatever. As I also say to myself. Hey, you're already there. Might as well give it a shot. Started out okay, she was a nice enough person. Undressed and I was suprised to get some BBBJ without an upcharge! When we moved to misionary, she did this wierd thing where she put her hand down by her pussy. I wasn't sure what she was doing. Maybe she was holding the condom on? Or making sure it was still there. Did missionary for a few minutes, and she took initiative and said she wanted to go doggy. Thats when things turned bad. Lord help me. When she turned around, all I could smell were shit smelling drafts of air which could be coming from no where else but her ass. I tried to over come it. I really did. I always want to get my money's worth. But on the verge of puking, I had to tell her to switch back to doggie style, but it was too late by then. My erection was gone, and she was far from attractive enough to bring it back. She looked at me wierd and told me I was loco. I didn't have the heart to tell her her dirty asshole had killed my boner. The session was 12 minutes top. I took a quick shower and got out of there.

Besides the point of this session being really bad, I'm finding lately that most of my mileroticos sessions are just not that good. I've had some real beauties from mileroticos before, but I might have to rethink my general gameplan.

ApplesApples

11-18-20, 14:33

This is a really good point, that I've started thinking about more since I moved to chapinero to take advantage of all the mileroticos girls in the area. I had an awful session with a milertoicos chica yesterday. Pictures looked good, but when I arrived it was apparent that since taking her mileroticos pictures she had decided to breath and let air into her lungs. Thiis allowed her fat stomach to finally bulge out. It was also apparent that she had applied heavy filters to her photos. Lots of stretch marks on her legs and her skin did not seem so smooth. Ok, so what. It was 60 k for 30 minutes. Whatever. As I also say to myself. Hey, you're already there. Might as well give it a shot. Started out okay, she was a nice enough person. Undressed and I was suprised to get some BBBJ without an upcharge! When we moved to misionary, she did this wierd thing where she put her hand down by her pussy. I wasn't sure what she was doing. Maybe she was holding the condom on? Or making sure it was still there. Did missionary for a few minutes, and she took initiative and said she wanted to go doggy. Thats when things turned bad. Lord help me. When she turned around, all I could smell were shit smelling drafts of air which could be coming from no where else but her ass. I tried to over come it. I really did. I always want to get my money's worth. But on the verge of puking, I had to tell her to switch back to doggie style, but it was too late by then. My erection was gone, and she was far from attractive enough to bring it back. She looked at me wierd and told me I was loco. I didn't have the heart to tell her her dirty asshole had killed my boner. The session was 12 minutes top. I took a quick shower and got out of there.

Besides the point of this session being really bad, I'm finding lately that most of my mileroticos sessions are just not that good. I've had some real beauties from mileroticos before, but I might have to rethink my general gameplan.This has been my experience most of the time in the states, which is why I've stopped. At least for me when this has happened overseas the girl is already much prettier (to me at least) so even if she drops a point or two in person it's no biggie.

Kazeu

11-18-20, 16:56

Hey Kaz, I'll be back in Bogota on Nov 27, the famous day after thanksgiving trip.) I feel bad your in the shit but I hope it ends by the time I get there. Hehe When the city is wide open you can find things to do but in this half ass shut down it can get real boring. I've hade my share of rain and cold for 7 straight days in Bogota but also 4.

Straight of rain in SAI sucked!Welcome back to Bogota! The air may be cold, but the pussy is quite warm.

Mr Enternational

11-18-20, 17:10

When we moved to misionary, she did this wierd thing where she put her hand down by her pussy. I wasn't sure what she was doing. Maybe she was holding the condom on? Or making sure it was still there.I had a chick do that in Santa Fe before. Seemed she did not want the dick to go in all the way. Other than that I don't know what it could be. Women do dumb shit. If you cooperate I can hurry up and finish, instead of you fighting and drawing the shit out.

NRandom940

11-18-20, 17:27

This is a really good point, that I've started thinking about more since I moved to chapinero to take advantage of all the mileroticos girls in the area. I had an awful session with a milertoicos chica yesterday. Pictures looked good, but when I arrived it was apparent that since taking her mileroticos pictures she had decided to breath and let air into her lungs. Thiis allowed her fat stomach to finally bulge out. It was also apparent that she had applied heavy filters to her photos. Lots of stretch marks on her legs and her skin did not seem so smooth. Ok, so what. It was 60 k for 30 minutes. Whatever. As I also say to myself. Hey, you're already there. Might as well give it a shot. Started out okay, she was a nice enough person. Undressed and I was suprised to get some BBBJ without an upcharge! When we moved to misionary, she did this wierd thing where she put her hand down by her pussy. I wasn't sure what she was doing. Maybe she was holding the condom on? Or making sure it was still there. Did missionary for a few minutes, and she took initiative and said she wanted to go doggy. Thats when things turned bad. Lord help me. When she turned around, all I could smell were shit smelling drafts of air which could be coming from no where else but her ass. I tried to over come it. I really did. I always want to get my money's worth. But on the verge of puking, I had to tell her to switch back to doggie style, but it was too late by then. My erection was gone, and she was far from attractive enough to bring it back. She looked at me wierd and told me I was loco. I didn't have the heart to tell her her dirty asshole had killed my boner. The session was 12 minutes top. I took a quick shower and got out of there.

Besides the point of this session being really bad, I'm finding lately that most of my mileroticos sessions are just not that good. I've had some real beauties from mileroticos before, but I might have to rethink my general gameplan.Maybe try to use the sites to find spas. That way, you'll have a choice of 8 girls that you can see before you pay.

NRandom940

11-18-20, 17:29

I had a chick do that in Santa Fe before. Seemed she did not want the dick to go in all the way. Other than that I don't know what it could be. Women do dumb shit. If you cooperate I can hurry up and finish, instead of you fighting and drawing the shit out.Most likely, she was making sure the condom stayed on. I had a girl do this in Amsterdam.

NRandom940

11-18-20, 17:36

Christian G

11-18-20, 17:51

TWhen we moved to misionary, she did this wierd thing where she put her hand down by her pussy. I wasn't sure what she was doing. Maybe she was holding the condom on? Or making sure it was still there..Many girls in the European FKKs do the same. Most of them do this shit for not let you go all the way in and not let you pump hard, few just really checking the condom the problem is when they check the condom every minute, a real turn off.

LatinaLover#1

11-19-20, 00:51

This has been my experience most of the time in the states, which is why I've stopped. At least for me when this has happened overseas the girl is already much prettier (to me at least) so even if she drops a point or two in person it's no biggie.I was seeing a nurse from Galerias, absolutely beautiful in every way, face, hair and the body was outstanding. I mean movie star quality but one day see said she wanted doggie. She flipped over on all fours and that was it. Killed it for me. Never saw her again jaja.

Sangnyc21

11-19-20, 01:30

I was seeing a nurse from Galerias, absolutely beautiful in every way, face, hair and the body was outstanding. I mean movie star quality but one day see said she wanted doggie. She flipped over on all fours and that was it. Killed it for me. Never saw her again jaja.The shitty asshole smell and the awful fishy infection smell from inside the pussy. Those 2 are absolute boner killers. Point of no return.

Bango Cheito

11-19-20, 07:47

Kaz is correct. I haven't been much involved in SA in recent years but I had a lot of years experience with the Sugar babies. One, some are pros, stay away. The best are young moms and students, preferably with a job. And as Koz said, always negotiate in person. Never over SA.I have two female friends who went on SA. Both of them are off of it now because they found their daddies.

One of them was wild and was a swinger but DEFINITELY not a pro.

The other one did a few porn scenes some years ago, she claims to be a devout Catholic now (but would probably be open to the indecent proposal if the money were right.

Bango Cheito

11-19-20, 07:53

Yeah, You are correct sir-- Many Beautiful girls -Model Types' in Santa Fe-- this quester doesn't know WTF he is talking about.The going rate for real models in Bogotá is from 500,000 to 2 million pesos for TLN. You also have to be properly introduced.

Bango Cheito

11-19-20, 07:55

Bango Cheito

11-19-20, 07:59

Staying directly in santa fe is an experience in itself. There is something magical about being able to step outside your hotel / motel and get laid immediately, but it is not for everyone. My chica from yesterday from santa fe kept trying to tell me that no one gets robbed in santa fe. Hahahah. I told her about the shooting that happened on my first night ever in santa fe, about my friend getting his iphone picked out of his pocket by some chica passing by. About the knife fight that broke out randomly. This was a serious knife fight, west side story style. I had never seen anything like it in my life.

So yea, it is not for everyone. If santa fe is going to be your main entertainment venue, I would stay as close as you can possible handle. I know a few members like Hotel San Francisco. I can recommend Hotel Oceania, big rooms with large windows and lots of sunlight. But neither of these hotels are chica friendly. So keep that in mind. But they are an easy walk to santa fe. If you can walk slightly further. Hotel Ibiis is also popular and was guest friendly before the pandemic. I'm not sure what their guest policy is now though. Hotels are being required to go through all this pandemic safety theatre. All hotels are required to make their guest fill out some health questionaire. Hotel Oceania was taking my temperature everyday. If you don't want the hotel hassle. Maybe an airbnb would be a better bet, but there are no real good airbnbs close to santa fe.You could try something around the calle 19 area on the other side of Av Caracas. Walk in 15 min or a minimum with Uber etc.

Bango Cheito

11-19-20, 08:01

Turgid

11-19-20, 13:32

Many girls in the European FKKs do the same. Most of them do this shit for not let you go all the way in and not let you pump hard, few just really checking the condom the problem is when they check the condom every minute, a real turn off.Very true. I have experienced this quite a lot in FKKs. Its both to ensure that the condom does not slip off and to prevent significant pounding. Quite annoying.

The Cane

11-19-20, 13:39

Very true. I have experienced this quite a lot in FKKs. Its both to ensure that the condom does not slip off and to prevent significant pounding. Quite annoying.For me this type of "cock blocking" has been extremely rare. So much so that I can barely recall maybe one instance at an FKK. It has happened at other times in other places though. At this stage of my "career", I don't think I would put up with it. Either remove your hand, or the session is over, and I'm not paying you full price for it. Thank God I have not had to face this type of behavior much. Hardly ever really. That's good, because it's some bullshit!

Turgid

11-19-20, 13:40

This is a really good point, that I've started thinking about more since I moved to chapinero to take advantage of all the mileroticos girls in the area. I had an awful session with a milertoicos chica yesterday. Pictures looked good, but when I arrived it was apparent that since taking her mileroticos pictures she had decided to breath and let air into her lungs. Thiis allowed her fat stomach to finally bulge out. It was also apparent that she had applied heavy filters to her photos. Lots of stretch marks on her legs and her skin did not seem so smooth. Ok, so what. It was 60 k for 30 minutes. Whatever. As I also say to myself. Hey, you're already there. Might as well give it a shot. Started out okay, she was a nice enough person. Undressed and I was suprised to get some BBBJ without an upcharge! When we moved to misionary, she did this wierd thing where she put her hand down by her pussy. I wasn't sure what she was doing. Maybe she was holding the condom on? Or making sure it was still there. Did missionary for a few minutes, and she took initiative and said she wanted to go doggy. Thats when things turned bad. Lord help me. When she turned around, all I could smell were shit smelling drafts of air which could be coming from no where else but her ass. I tried to over come it. I really did. I always want to get my money's worth. But on the verge of puking, I had to tell her to switch back to doggie style, but it was too late by then. My erection was gone, and she was far from attractive enough to bring it back. She looked at me wierd and told me I was loco. I didn't have the heart to tell her her dirty asshole had killed my boner. The session was 12 minutes top. I took a quick shower and got out of there.

Besides the point of this session being really bad, I'm finding lately that most of my mileroticos sessions are just not that good. I've had some real beauties from mileroticos before, but I might have to rethink my general gameplan.Holding the condom and a bad smell. It does not get much worse than that.

JjBee62

11-19-20, 14:40

I had a chick do that in Santa Fe before. Seemed she did not want the dick to go in all the way. Other than that I don't know what it could be. Women do dumb shit. If you cooperate I can hurry up and finish, instead of you fighting and drawing the shit out.Consider it a compliment. If she's trying to keep you from getting full penetration, it might be because she feels you're longer than she is deep and she doesn't want to spend the next 3 days with a bruised cervix.

NeilGeorge

11-19-20, 21:26

When we moved to missionary, she did this weird thing where she put her hand down by her pussy. I wasn't sure what she was doing. Maybe she was holding the condom on? Or making sure it was still there. Did missionary for a few minutes, and she took initiative and said she wanted to go doggy. Thats when things turned bad. Lord help me. When she turned around, all I could smell were shit smelling drafts of air which could be coming from no where else but her ass. I tried to over come it. I really did. I always want to get my money's worth. But on the verge of puking, I had to tell her to switch back to doggie style, but it was too late by then. My erection was gone, and she was far from attractive enough to bring it back. She looked at me wierd and told me I was loco. I didn't have the heart to tell her her dirty asshole had killed my boner. Point 1. She put her hand down by her pussy to massage her clit and try to come. Women masturbate also and if you are no good in sex they will stimulate themselves because you are not doing it for them, emotionally or physically.

Point 2. If you say you want to do "69", in some cultures that means you want them to fart in your face 69 times and you want to smell it. When I was overseas with the military the women often misunderstood what we were doing when we positioned our face down by their pussy / butt hole and took that as a cue that we wanted to smell their farts. Not all girls interpret "69" the same way.

Point 3. Sometimes you have to evaluate yourself. Does your shit stink too? Do you sit in a bath tub for 20 minutes a day and let the soapy water creep up every crevise of your ass hole? If not you may also have a case of "Butt-itis" which is smelly but. Taking a shower does not rinse off the butt hole at all. Modern day women and men are always in a hurry and do not take baths like before. When I was young we only had bath tubs and no showers at all. This is a sign of the modern day woman and man who are in a hurry, but also have smelly butt.