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Point 1. She put her hand down by her pussy to massage her clit and try to come. Women masturbate also and if you are no good in sex they will stimulate themselves because you are not doing it for them, emotionally or physically.
Point 2. If you say you want to do "69", in some cultures that means you want them to fart in your face 69 times and you want to smell it. When I was overseas with the military the women often misunderstood what we were doing when we positioned our face down by their pussy / butt hole and took that as a cue that we wanted to smell their farts. Not all girls interpret "69" the same way.
Point 3. Sometimes you have to evaluate yourself. Does your shit stink too? Do you sit in a bath tub for 20 minutes a day and let the soapy water creep up every crevise of your ass hole? If not you may also have a case of "Butt-itis" which is smelly but. Taking a shower does not rinse off the butt hole at all. Modern day women and men are always in a hurry and do not take baths like before. When I was young we only had bath tubs and no showers at all. This is a sign of the modern day woman and man who are in a hurry, but also have smelly butt.Point 1. Yes. This does happen.
Point 2. I doubt if any woman in Colombia will confuse 69 with "quiero oler tus pedos. " They understand 69.
Point 3. If you find a cheap hooker in Colombia who has a bathtub, marry her immediately. You can sell her unicorn for billions.
LatinaLover#1
11-20-20, 10:40
The shitty asshole smell and the awful fishy infection smell from inside the pussy. Those 2 are absolute boner killers. Point of no return.The stinky 'low tide' pussy smell is Vaginitis, it is an infection. Can be from sex without proper washing or even over use of antibiotics and an over froth of yeast infection. In any case, as you said an automatic bone killer.
Point 1. She put her hand down by her pussy to massage her clit and try to come. Women masturbate also and if you are no good in sex they will stimulate themselves because you are not doing it for them, emotionally or physically.
Point 2. If you say you want to do "69", in some cultures that means you want them to fart in your face 69 times and you want to smell it. When I was overseas with the military the women often misunderstood what we were doing when we positioned our face down by their pussy / butt hole and took that as a cue that we wanted to smell their farts. Not all girls interpret "69" the same way.
Point 3. Sometimes you have to evaluate yourself. Does your shit stink too? Do you sit in a bath tub for 20 minutes a day and let the soapy water creep up every crevise of your ass hole? If not you may also have a case of "Butt-itis" which is smelly but. Taking a shower does not rinse off the butt hole at all. Modern day women and men are always in a hurry and do not take baths like before. When I was young we only had bath tubs and no showers at all. This is a sign of the modern day woman and man who are in a hurry, but also have smelly butt.1. That might make sense, but what you probably don't know is that this girl reached around the outside of her leg close to underneath her ass to reach what the condom area. So unless her clit was at the bottom of her pussy I doubt she was pleasuring herself.
2. Who said they wanted to do 69? I didn't say 69, nor did I said I wanted to have a fart in my face.
3. I may stink, but I doubt it. I've never had a girlfriend tell my I stink, EVER. I've been told I get sweaty sure. But never that I smell, unless I've eaten something funny.
When it comes to assholes, I'm aware shit smells bad. I'm sure my asshole smells pretty bad too, but I try to keep it clean and I'm also not putting my ass in the girls face. Doggie style is pretty common, is it really that much to ask that a prepago with her own place and a shower just wash up and clean her asshole before a client arrives? I find that a simple shower where you wash your asshole as you normally do when you shower is just fine. No bath tub need. I'm not going anal here. We're not go mining the crevices for diamonds or anything.
NeilGeorge
11-20-20, 22:22
I'm sure my asshole smells pretty bad too, but I try to keep it clean and I'm also not putting my ass in the girls face. Doggie style is pretty common, is it really that much to ask that a prepago with her own place and a shower just wash up and clean her asshole before a client arrives? I find that a simple shower where you wash your asshole as you normally do when you shower is just fine. No bath tub need. I'm not going anal here. We're not go mining the crevices for diamonds or anything.There is a product in the USA called Tucks. This is to clean your butt hole more than toilet paper will do. It has witch hazel and is on a cotton pad. I use it regularly to clean my butt hole. Unless you are a cat and lick your butt hole after pooping, Tucks is a product you should try. And get the Colombian girls to use it too. One can not get enough of personal hygiene. Although I am not queer, I often will spray cologne in my personal area. Dust your groin area and butt hole with corn starch to keep the perspiration down.
If you use proper hygiene and smell good in the butt hole area the girls will want to use their tongue to lightly caress your butt hole. Some men enjoy it. Even some men who are not gay enjoy it. I have heard of a man who gets his wife to stimulate his butt hole with her battery operated vibrator, and he is heterosexual, from what I know.
Wash Your Ass! It ain't that hard fellas. Washcloth and soap will do the trick.
There is a product in the USA called Tucks. This is to clean your butt hole more than toilet paper will do. It has witch hazel and is on a cotton pad. I use it regularly to clean my butt hole. Unless you are a cat and lick your butt hole after pooping, Tucks is a product you should try. And get the Colombian girls to use it too. One can not get enough of personal hygiene. Although I am not queer, I often will spray cologne in my personal area. Dust your groin area and butt hole with corn starch to keep the perspiration down.
If you use proper hygiene and smell good in the butt hole area the girls will want to use their tongue to lightly caress your butt hole. Some men enjoy it. Even some men who are not gay enjoy it. I have heard of a man who gets his wife to stimulate his butt hole with her battery operated vibrator, and he is heterosexual, from what I know.
LeyenLouvain
11-21-20, 00:09
Do you sit in a bath tub for 20 minutes a day and let the soapy water creep up every crevise of your ass hole? Even if you do this, there is still an odor from the anal glands. It's a natural smell that we maybe shouldn't expect chicas to mask with perfume.
Mr Enternational
11-21-20, 00:36
Wash Your Ass! It ain't that hard fellas. Washcloth and soap will do the trick.They do not use washcloths in South America or most of the world for that matter.
I was in the neighborhood of Pussy House this evening and was curious to see if it was open. Theres bad and good to this story. The good part is that it is indeed open. I'm not sure about the hours, but I stopped by a little before 7 pm, there were about 6 guys and about 6 girls there. The door has been moved slightly down the street. All the servers are wearing masks and faceshields. I was excited to learn that they were still in business. After they patted me down and checked my bag, I washed my shoes and put some santizer on my hands. A waiter ushered me into the main room after spraying my hands with something.
This is the shitty part. The entire stage is surrounded in plastic about 6 feet high from the floor of the stage. Much like a dismemberment scene out of Dexter. I could see a girl dancing on stage through the plastic, but the plastic definitely is not clear enough. The details of the girl are hard to make out. Anyways, for anyone who goes there to watch the girls dance. The view sucks and there will be no contact with the girl on stage.
The girls on the floor did not wear masks. So, maybe the place still has value for some. But for me, I'm disappointed.
There is a product in the USA called Tucks. This is to clean your butt hole more than toilet paper will do. It has witch hazel and is on a cotton pad. I use it regularly to clean my butt hole. Unless you are a cat and lick your butt hole after pooping, Tucks is a product you should try. And get the Colombian girls to use it too. One can not get enough of personal hygiene. Although I am not queer, I often will spray cologne in my personal area. Dust your groin area and butt hole with corn starch to keep the perspiration down.
If you use proper hygiene and smell good in the butt hole area the girls will want to use their tongue to lightly caress your butt hole. Some men enjoy it. Even some men who are not gay enjoy it. I have heard of a man who gets his wife to stimulate his butt hole with her battery operated vibrator, and he is heterosexual, from what I know.Wow! That didn't take long to go from stinky pussy to really uncomfortable.
The stinky 'low tide' pussy smell is Vaginitis, it is an infection. Can be from sex without proper washing or even over use of antibiotics and an over froth of yeast infection. In any case, as you said an automatic bone killer.In 2 years I've been to Colombia 10 x. Each trip was a week or more.
Banged plenty of girls. Only had 2 issues with one being a pussy smell and other being the slight hint of shit.
They do sell vagina soap in the pharmacies there and in general Colombian women take very good care of their pussies.
But the smell of the asshole is easily avoidable.
The asshole will only have that extremely strong odor if not washed or wiped properly. Simple as that.
But for me, once I smell either I just revert to head jerk off and drop one down their throat and countdown to when she will be walking out my door LOL.
Enough of it, don't we have the 'stupid shit in' threads? Post it there. In this age of the recent malady you should be 'proud' to retain some sense of smell, gives you a bill of good health.
I like apartments more than hotels for a little more space and a kitchen with a working refrigerator and stove. I also like avoiding the guest fee discussion and it just feels better walking by a security guard than a reception in full view of everyone else.
Just checking, but is there any other options outside of AirBnB for weekly stays? I may convert to monthly, but I'm more likely to head to Medellin.
Any places to recommend would be great. I would like to stay in the north of town. Cll 70 & higher.
Thanks.
I have been with so many women in Santa Fe and this odor problem has happened 2-3 times in 8 yrs.
Copa air cancelled my flight to Medellin early next month and I had the option to spend the night in Panama or ask them to take me to Bogota instead. I chose the 2nd option. Now I am going to arrive at Bogota about midnight on a Saturday night / Sun morning. I'll get myself a flight to Medellin around lunchtime on the Sunday. I'm not sure whether to take a taxi into Chapinero and get a hotel and go to a strip club, or just get a hotel near the airport. I'm tempted with just staying close to the airport. Any of you guys know if the nicer hotels near the airport allow girls in? Which one would you recommend. I'd just call a girl from one of the escort agencies. Miami Vice agency seems to have a decent selection of girls at reasonable prices. But what hotel?
If one of the Bogota experts replies, I promise to do a trip report on Cartagena and Santa Marta when I get there later in the month.
Elvis 2008
11-22-20, 23:47
Any of you guys know if the nicer hotels near the airport allow girls in? Which one would you recommend.Everything has changed after Covid. I like and have been to the Marriott airport Courtyard and airport GHL and they were guest friendly before Covid hit but I would be surprised if they let you have guests in this Covid world.
I think you are better off getting a hotel in the Santa Fe region and getting one of the hotels that allows you to pay a small guest fee for visitors. Kazeu mentioned a two star hotel down there, and that is where I would go if you want to play. I am not sure if the cops let the Santa Fe hookers out after midnight (you might want to send Woodman a PM about that) but the women get going pretty early, and I am sure that you could get an escort to do outcall for when you arrive.
Outside of possibly going to a casa (and who knows what is open Sunday), I see no point in going to Chaperino for less than 24 hours.
Arrived last night around 22:15. Very easy to get through immigration process. Filled out "Check-Mig" form at airport in Miami as this is required before you can board aircraft. They send you a confirmation in our email which you need to show to the gate agent who marks your boarding pass so you can board. At Bogota Immigration, the same info is required. The border agent will ask you to show him the email. Once he confirms you get your stamp and are on your merry way.
The going rate for real models in Bogot is from 500,000 to 2 million pesos for TLN. You also have to be properly introduced.How do you get properly introduced? Looking for a fixer / connection in relation to this. Will pay $ for the help. PM is fine.
LatinaLover#1
11-23-20, 14:57
I have been with so many women in Santa Fe and this odor problem has happened 2-3 times in 8 yrs.The Vaginitis problem is not applicable only to SF, I've run into this, so to speak, jaja in most places around the world. Not so much in Brazil for some reason but seemed to happen more often in Costa Rica. Fact is it can happen anywhere.
LatinaLover#1
11-23-20, 15:14
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The Tall Man
11-23-20, 15:21
I don't really care at the moment who won but these assholes and there economic agenda are fucking up the Exchange rate. The Peso was on it's way back up to north of 4000. Since these Biden assholes started taking control, the peso is slipping down damn near south of 3600. And if the current trend continues I can see this as far down as 3000. The difference between 3000 and 4000 is 2,000,000 pesos. Considering the minimum wage is about 700,000 a month, I think they are considering changing that this week, but Your talking about being able to employ 3 full time employees for my business for a MONTH just because of the exchange rate. Make no mistake about it, your vacation is going to get more and more expensive because of the socialists'.I totally agree, this sham of an administration has not even been sworn into office and already our worst fears about these crooks are hurting the exchange.
Damn now I am pissed.
The Tall Man.
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Mr Enternational
11-23-20, 17:30
I don't really care at the moment who won but these assholes and there economic agenda are fucking up the Exchange rate. The Peso was on it's way back up to north of 4000. Since these Biden assholes started taking control, the peso is slipping down damn near south of 3600. And if the current trend continues I can see this as far down as 3000. The difference between 3000 and 4000 is 2,000,000 pesos. Considering the minimum wage is about 700,000 a month, I think they are considering changing that this week, but Your talking about being able to employ 3 full time employees for my business for a MONTH just because of the exchange rate. Make no mistake about it, your vacation is going to get more and more expensive because of the socialists'.Dude what are you talking about? There was one spike at the beginning of the year for all of 2 months. Besides that, the rate has been pretty much steady. Were you angry about Trump's economic agenda last November when it was down to 3200? And who cares about spending $200 more on 1 week of vacation when the stock market has gone up! My portfolio has gone up 20% since the election.
Elvis 2008
11-23-20, 18:17
The Peso was on it's way back up to north of 4000. Since these Biden assholes started taking control, the peso is slipping down damn near south of 3600. And if the current trend continues I can see this as far down as 3000. The difference between 3000 Make no mistake about it, your vacation is going to get more and more expensive because of the socialists'.LL,
People went into the dollar and pushed up its value due to uncertainty. It was first about the virus and then the election. What is fucked up to me is how important politics are for business. Whichever party is in control does its best to fuck the money makers for the other party. Walmart is Republican, and Amazon is Democrat so money is going to go to Amazon or other Democrat companies. This really should not matter but it does. Money flowed into Democrat leaning companies once there was clarity on the election and out of the dollar / cash.
As for the exchange rate, it is based on a lot of things, but whenever there is a crisis like Covid, people will flock to the dollar. So Covid had more to do with the move up in the dollar than Trump did. In the long run, the rates are due to import and exporting of goods, interest rates, and inflation rates in the country. Colombia used to get many of its dollars from oil, and it used to be the USA would send out more of its dollars for oil over anything else, but that has changed a lot in the USA.
Anyway, there is no way we are seeing 3000 COP to the dollar for years. The reason is that the Colombian economy is a mess, and it is going to take at least 2 years for its economy to sort itself out. Internationally, no one wants the COP right now.
Dude what are you talking about? There was one spike at the beginning of the year for all of 2 months. Besides that, the rate has been pretty much steady. Were you angry about Trump's economic agenda last November when it was down to 3200? And who cares about spending $200 more on 1 week of vacation when the stock market has gone up! My portfolio has gone up 20% since the election.In about 48 hours after the first vaccine announcement the Dow went north and the exchange rate went from 3870 to 3650. Not really sure what Biden, Harris or a 1st term Representative from NYC had to do with that?
I'm just wondering, if these guys get Diarrhea do they claim it's because AOC ate a bad taco?
I don't really care at the moment who won but these assholes and there economic agenda are fucking up the Exchange rate. The Peso was on it's way back up to north of 4000. Since these Biden assholes started taking control, the peso is slipping down damn near south of 3600. And if the current trend continues I can see this as far down as 3000. The difference between 3000 and 4000 is 2,000,000 pesos. Considering the minimum wage is about 700,000 a month, I think they are considering changing that this week, but Your talking about being able to employ 3 full time employees for my business for a MONTH just because of the exchange rate. Make no mistake about it, your vacation is going to get more and more expensive because of the socialists'.LOL, those "socialists" haven't even started yet, and you've already "about had it?" Boy, the next 4 years are going to be tough on ya.
In about 48 hours after the first vaccine announcement the Dow went north and the exchange rate went from 3870 to 3650. Not really sure what Biden, Harris or a 1st term Representative from NYC had to do with that?
I'm just wondering, if these guys get Diarrhea do they claim it's because AOC ate a bad taco?Bad Taco is what AOCs boyfriend says after he burrows into the idiot socialist's moistness.
Wait when the things start normalizing and the country opens more after the malady, COP will weaken against the USD again. Now new admin means higher infrastructure and relief package; this pushes bond rates up and the greenback down, and stocks up through the discount model.
I don't really care at the moment who won but these assholes and there economic agenda are fucking up the Exchange rate. The Peso was on it's way back up to north of 4000. Since these Biden assholes started taking control, the peso is slipping down damn near south of 3600. And if the current trend continues I can see this as far down as 3000. The difference between 3000 and 4000 is 2,000,000 pesos. Considering the minimum wage is about 700,000 a month, I think they are considering changing that this week, but Your talking about being able to employ 3 full time employees for my business for a MONTH just because of the exchange rate. Make no mistake about it, your vacation is going to get more and more expensive because of the socialists'.I've worked in the markets, including trading FX futures, for most of my professional life. Trying to blame or credit one side for favorable / unfavorable movements in any market (currency, stocks, etc) is ridiculous. There are an infinite number of variables at work, and very few of them have anything to do with who is President or a representative from Queens.
NRandom940
11-24-20, 06:08
This thread went downhill fast. We were talking about good spas and mongering locations.
Then suddenly went to stinky buttholes and exchange rates.
Are you really going to complain that it now might cost you $55 to fuck a super hot babe instead of just $50?
LatinaLover#1
11-24-20, 07:14
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I thought this was the Bogota mongering board. Turns out it's the "My panties are in a bunch over the election" board.
Here's what happens every 4 years, for those out there who can't remember back that far. After every Presidential election the winning side declares we're about to enter a golden age. Their candidate is going to fix everything from the economy to persistent foot odor. It's going to rain soup and the losing party is never going to recover.
Meanwhile the losers tell us the world is ending and we'll all get gonorrhea and be robbed and raped by the new administration.
Every 4 years. I've lost track of how many times the world has ended, we've been taken over by China or Russia and the government has taken away all our freedoms.
Maybe this time you'll be right, whichever side you're on. However, there's not a fucking thing you can do about it until the next election except cry or crow. Neither one is going to help anyone trying to get laid in Bogota.
I'm betting that 4 years from now things won't be much different. 230 years of history backs me up.
BTW: If you're in a panic over 1 junior Representative, either she's the most intelligent person in the world, capable of manipulating a majority in both houses of Congress, the president and the Supreme Court, or you need someone to change your diaper.
Relax. If you can't change it, worrying about it does no good.
Elvis 2008
11-24-20, 19:02
This thread went downhill fast. We were talking about good spas and mongering locations.
Are you really going to complain that it now might cost you $55 to fuck a super hot babe instead of just $50?I agree with you that $5 should make no difference on coming to Colombia or not with a girl. The irony is that all the guys want to comment on that versus the expenses with regards to the trip which is obviously more important than the $5.
When I looked to book my next flight to Colombia, I saw reasonable fares from Atlanta and Dallas and crazy high fares from Florida and Houston. Things SHOULD be dirt cheap going to Colombia given the spare capacity the airlines have and fuel costs, but they are not because the airlines have been gun shy about increasing capacity. I really do not like the trigger finger happy way governments have been lording over businesses since the virus hit. As far as I am concerned, governments have decimated the world economy with very little to show for it.
Still, there is too much faith in governments and the resistance to fighting pointless government lockdowns and travel bans is still not at the level it should be, so businesses are scared to expand and rightly so. Point is that we are not going to see the massive reduction in air fares we mongers are due.
With hotels, the capacity may be even more overstretched than with airlines, and that cannot be taken off the market so quickly but even with that, I have not seen the reduction in prices due us there either. To the contrary, I am seeing less service, the same prices, and increased paranoia, and guest fees. This raises another point I do not think people get. Right now, hotels are putting the concerns of government officials first and paying customers second.
The notion that Texas has more cases of the Flu than California and that Texas has done a horrible job with the Flu while California has done a great job would be derided as stupidity. Governments cannot control the flu virus, yet here we have Corona, a type of the flu virus, and somehow due to what may be the stupidest "scientific" campaign of all time, governments are now being judged and graded on how a virus spreads in their region.
Once people reject that notion for the complete idiocy that it is, and we are not there yet, governments and not the market are going to be the primary factor with regards to travel pricing.
Still, there is too much faith in governments and the resistance to fighting pointless government lockdowns and travel bans is still not at the level it should be, so businesses are scared to expand and rightly so. Point is that we are not going to see the massive reduction in air fares we mongers are due.
Governments cannot control the flu virus, yet here we have Corona, a type of the flu virus, and somehow due to what may be the stupidest "scientific" campaign of all time, governments are now being judged and graded on how a virus spreads in their region.
Once people reject that notion for the complete idiocy that it is, and we are not there yet, governments and not the market are going to be the primary factor with regards to travel pricing.Yeah, sure thing. Aha. Totally.
Korea.
Population: 51 million.
COVID cases: 31,000.
COVID Deaths: 510.
US.
Population: 328 million (6 x).
COVID cases: 12,500,000 (403 x).
COVID Deaths: 258,000 (505 x).
Arrived in Bogota Saturday night at 22:15. Breezed through immigration. Completed the "Check-Mig" form online at airport in Miami before boarding. Took less than 5 minutes. Had to show the gate agent my email receipt, marked my boarding pass and that was that. At immigration I showed the email receipt to the border patrol agent, he stamped my passport after a little small talk and I was in. Very easy and smooth process.
Yet there are European countries (Italy, Spain, Belgium among them) with higher cases and deaths per capita than the US. And those countries had hard lockdowns. This thing might not be as simple as some make it out to be.
Yeah, sure thing. Aha. Totally.
Korea.
Population: 51 million.
COVID cases: 31,000.
COVID Deaths: 510.
US.
Population: 328 million (6 x).
COVID cases: 12,500,000 (403 x).
COVID Deaths: 258,000 (505 x).
Yet there are European countries (Italy, Spain, Belgium among them) with higher cases and deaths per capita than the US. And those countries had hard lockdowns. This thing might not be as simple as some make it out to be.I never said it was, but it's not just about lockdowns. The fact there are 2-3 industrial countries in the whole world that are worse off than us doesn't validate a point that governments shouldn't be "judged and graded on how a virus spreads. " That's just kooky.
This government gets an F.
NRandom940
11-25-20, 04:51
Arrived in Bogota Saturday night at 22:15. Breezed through immigration. Completed the "Check-Mig" form online at airport in Miami before boarding. Took less than 5 minutes. Had to show the gate agent my email receipt, marked my boarding pass and that was that. At immigration I showed the email receipt to the border patrol agent, he stamped my passport after a little small talk and I was in. Very easy and smooth process.Funny. I arrived in Bogota from La Paz just 30 minutes before you that same day. I'm back in the USA now, though.
NRandom940
11-25-20, 04:55
I agree with you that $5 should make no difference on coming to Colombia or not with a girl. The irony is that all the guys want to comment on that versus the expenses with regards to the trip which is obviously more important than the $5.
When I looked to book my next flight to Colombia, I saw reasonable fares from Atlanta and Dallas and crazy high fares from Florida and Houston. Things SHOULD be dirt cheap going to Colombia given the spare capacity the airlines have and fuel costs, but they are not because the airlines have been gun shy about increasing capacity. I really do not like the trigger finger happy way governments have been lording over businesses since the virus hit. As far as I am concerned, governments have decimated the world economy with very little to show for it.
Still, there is too much faith in governments and the resistance to fighting pointless government lockdowns and travel bans is still not at the level it should be, so businesses are scared to expand and rightly so. Point is that we are not going to see the massive reduction in air fares we mongers are due.
With hotels, the capacity may be even more overstretched than with airlines, and that cannot be taken off the market so quickly but even with that, I have not seen the reduction in prices due us there either. To the contrary, I am seeing less service, the same prices, and increased paranoia, and guest fees. This raises another point I do not think people get. Right now, hotels are putting the concerns of government officials first and paying customers second..Plus I feel that I'm saving money on food. It's a hell of a lot cheaper to eat in Bogota than anywhere in the USA.
I figured now is a better time than never to ask about mongering and trip reports since we want to bring this forum back to its roots.
It's my first time in Bogota and so far it's been depressing, cold, and rainy. I've tried to go down south near Feibre / Paisas club today and yesterday but they were closed and the area is hella sketch so definitely don't stick around by yourself. I don't know if I'll return as I felt / heard that people are even more hostile in these pandemic times.
I went to Lido's yesterday and today and besides the ridiculously priced beers, the girls were on average 6-7's. Is this really the best that Bogota has to offer? I've had 3 taxi drivers drop me off here claiming it's the best, but there hasn't been anything that caught my eye at those prices. I mean I know it's not Medellin and it can't hold a candle to Brazil (IMO), but do you guys have any other spots or places you recommend checking out? I'll check back there Thursday-Saturday to see if anything has changed. I've read the forum back about 3 months worth but found little to help my cause. Anywho, I've just been hitting up online girls via mileroticos and have 2 hotties fortunately via SA but wanted an establishment where I could window shop.
Monger on fellas.
Yeah, sure thing. Aha. Totally.
Korea.
Population: 51 million.
COVID cases: 31,000.
COVID Deaths: 510.
US.
Population: 328 million (6 x).
COVID cases: 12,500,000 (403 x).
COVID Deaths: 258,000 (505 x).I'm trying to figure out how we mongers are due for a massive reduction in airfare. I knew about Frequent Flyer Miles, just wasn't aware of the Frequent Fucker Miles program.
"Member services, how may I help you?
"Hi. I like to fly to foreign countries in order to have sex with prostitutes and I'm wondering why you haven't been giving me massive discounts?
"Hello? Hello?
LOL, those "socialists" haven't even started yet, and you've already "about had it?" Boy, the next 4 years are going to be tough on ya.Biden is a socialist?
Elvis 2008
11-25-20, 16:45
I never said it was, but it's not just about lockdowns.Then what is it about?
I will give you another data point.
Cambodia has 16 million people, 308 cases of Covid, and zero deaths.
This government gets an F.If you are going to use those data points, then the government and health care system of Cambodia gets an A, Korea gets a be, and the USA gets a F.
And remember you are holding a country and its government responsible for the spread of an incurable disease, so there is no way Cambodia was lucky. No, they have to have a better health care system than the USA if you use that criteria.
On top of that, if you are going to give a grade, then the test has to be the same, I. E. The virus cannot have mutated to a different strand when it came to the USA and the Americas. Has the virus stayed the same? Of course not.
The new strain of coronavirus, called D614 G, emerged in Europe and has become the most common in the world. Research at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and the University of Wisconsin-Madison shows the D614 G strain replicates faster and is more transmissible than the virus, originating in China, that spread in the beginning of the pandemic.
In fact, last I checked there were six strains of Corona, and there are different types that predominate in different regions, but viral mutation is a fringe story because it gets in the way of grading governments.
The single greatest knock I had on the Trump administration was failing to have enough testing available when the virus hit, however, we have had all the testing we ever could have asked for in the last few months and the number of cases keeps going up, so I am not even sure that criticism is fair.
The best anyone can do is to delay the virus from spreading like wildfire but curing it is out of reach. Maybe vaccines help, but maybe they do not.
It is fine and appropriate to judge governments on how they handle curable and treatable diseases. It is irrational to judge governments on how they handle incurable diseases and if they are judged irrationally, then they will behave irrationally which is my point.
Until governments behave rationally, we are not going to see the laws of supply and demand kick in, and prices for anything that can be affected by Covid will stay irrationally high.
Any uptick in a number of cases and governments will be pressured to "do something" like travel bans or lockdowns, never mind the fact that those things are actually long term bad for the people and the health of a nation and do not work to stop the spread of a virus.
Last who report showed the death rate of the virus is between 0. 23 and 0. 27%. Given the flu hits younger people more harshly than Covid, if you judge the virus in terms of expected years to live lost, I am not so sure it is all that much more deadly than the common flu.
I have been happy with all the reports with regards to people decriminalizing drugs like pot. The question in my mind is not whether drugs are bad (they are), but is the war on drugs worse than the drugs themselves? I think the war on drugs and the war on terror may have been worse and more deadly than either the drugs or the terrorism themselves.
Nobody had the balls to ask the question which was really more deadly: the virus or the war on the virus. Anyone who questions the war on the virus and economic and health damage that stemmed from it is in your words kooky.
And economic activity is not going to get back to normal until that question is really addressed. Government will behave irrationally and businesses will be fearful of expanding. If I were a hotel or airline company, the last thing I would be doing in this climate is thinking about is expanding services.
Anywho, I've just been hitting up online girls via mileroticos and have 2 hotties fortunately via SA but wanted an establishment where I could window shop.
Monger on fellas.Can you link which SA you are using? There are like 10 different ones out there and looking for one where someone has had some success.
Elvis 2008
11-25-20, 17:35
"Hi. I like to fly to foreign countries in order to have sex with prostitutes and I'm wondering why you haven't been giving me massive discounts?."It is because dummies like you have cheered on the government destroying the airline sector when it restricted international travel which did zero to slow the spread of the virus. Until birdbrains like you figure out that we are having to put government officials ahead of paying customers, your fares will continue to stay high and your service will continue to be shit."
Does anyone have an update on ZonaT? Are the clubs opening back up, and girls around there, even if opening underground-wise like a speakeasy?
I know it's the farthest away from Santa Fe and the prices are much higher, but I really enjoy the club / nightlight aspect of it and don't mind for the hotter girls there.
I'm trying to figure out how we mongers are due for a massive reduction in airfare. I knew about Frequent Flyer Miles, just wasn't aware of the Frequent Fucker Miles program.
"Member services, how may I help you?
"Hi. I like to fly to foreign countries in order to have sex with prostitutes and I'm wondering why you haven't been giving me massive discounts?
"Hello? Hello?Faith doesn't require logic or reasoning. That's why it's called faith. I have enough die-hard trumpkins in my family who I love dearly, but logic won't get you anywhere with that crowd.
SocalHunter
11-25-20, 21:20
I figured now is a better time than never to ask about mongering and trip reports since we want to bring this forum back to its roots.
It's my first time in Bogota and so far it's been depressing, cold, and rainy. I've tried to go down south near Feibre / Paisas club today and yesterday but they were closed and the area is hella sketch so definitely don't stick around by yourself. I don't know if I'll return as I felt / heard that people are even more hostile in these pandemic times.
I went to Lido's yesterday and today and besides the ridiculously priced beers, the girls were on average 6-7's. Is this really the best that Bogota has to offer? I've had 3 taxi drivers drop me off here claiming it's the best, but there hasn't been anything that caught my eye at those prices. I mean I know it's not Medellin and it can't hold a candle to Brazil (IMO), but do you guys have any other spots or places you recommend checking out? I'll check back there Thursday-Saturday to see if anything has changed. I've read the forum back about 3 months worth but found little to help my cause. Anywho, I've just been hitting up online girls via mileroticos and have 2 hotties fortunately via SA but wanted an establishment where I could window shop.
Monger on fellas.I have been to Bogota for a couple years now, it is cold and weather is unpredictable, you will get used to it, just remember to always bring a light jacket with a hood in case it pours.
Unfortunately during this pandemic, I have not ventured down Santa Fe, but I have read some other forum that they are open, if you went and they weren't open, maybe try wed-sat.
Santa Fe is a sketchy area, so stick to that 1-2 block that Fiebre / Paisa is on, the next block parallel also ok but I try to stick to this one block, and taxi / uber out ASAP.
Lido, I have been there a total of 1 time in the last 2 yrs, maybe it was my bad luck, there was like 7 girls there, 7/10 at best. And NO it is not the best Bogota has to offer.
Zona T is fun if you are into the bar scene and speak some Spanish, bars are opening again but close early, I am not sure if clubs are open yet I do not think so.
I have been to some other places where they have girls / drinks. But to be honest, they are smaller and once a while you find something but if you are only here for a short time, I would still stick with Santa Fe and escorts.
It's my first time in Bogota and so far it's been depressing, cold, and rainy.
Monger on fellas.The cancel my flight for Cartagena due to the mayors protocol and most of the AirBnB owners are not allowing guest. I was looking at changing my time to Bogot however I did not like those numbers for the weather. My friend thinks it's not that cold and we can deal with it. He's never been to Bogot but reading your comment reignited my apprehension. Cold weather and I don't get along and I see the highs in the low 60's and the lows in the mid 40's for the next week. Is the co- really uncomfortable for you? Is it longsleeve weather or you need a coat weather?
I like apartments more than hotels for a little more space and a kitchen with a working refrigerator and stove. I also like avoiding the guest fee discussion and it just feels better walking by a security guard than a reception in full view of everyone else.
Just checking, but is there any other options outside of AirBnB for weekly stays? I may convert to monthly, but I'm more likely to head to Medellin.
Any places to recommend would be great. I would like to stay in the north of town. Cll 70 & higher.
Thanks.Does anybody have any Airbnb recommendations around Hotel Tequendama that don't have a bad walk of shame? I'd love to just be able to waltz a girl up to my room without any questions.
Walked down to the area round 11:30 AM and walked the circuit. There must have been a 50-75 ladies out. Very tough decision but as I was standing on the corner thinking a very good looking blonde and brunette approached me because I was watching them walk down the street. As I don't speak Spanish the communication with the translator was difficult. After a few minutes settled for a threesome for $50,000 each for 1 hour. I thought this was my lucky day. Walked to their base of operations and the lady asked for $20,000 for the room. I gave the girls a 20 and we were on our way. Got to the room and the girls asked for the cash. I whipped out 2 $50 mil bills and started to get undressed. The girls objected as they said it was $100,000 each for threesome. I was peeved as I was already frustrated from the initial conversation but did the math and that is still pretty good considering the hotness of the girls and how much that would cost in the states with not as hot girls. Anyway, after blowjob from each and some DATY with the brunette I started fucking the blonde. Not 2 minutes into it there was a knock at the door as time was up. Wait a minute. That was 20 minutes not 1 hour. The girls then said that was correct and asked if I wanted more time. Hell no. I wanted this disaster to be over. Lesson learned. Need to learn to speak Spanish.
Mr Enternational
11-26-20, 01:32
I have been to Bogota for a couple years now, it is cold and weather is unpredictable, you will get used to it, When? 15 years of going to Bogota and I have not gotten used to it. No heat in buildings and shit. I hate cold!
When? 15 years of going to Bogota and I have not gotten used to it. No heat in buildings and shit. I hate cold!E I was hoping to see why'all in Bogotá next week but that did it. I'm done. Bogota is now off my list until spring or the summer. The cold and I respect each other from a distance. Good luck fellas. I don't talk much in this thread but I read a lot.
E I was hoping to see why'all in Bogot next week but that did it. I'm done. Bogota is now off my list until spring or the summer. The cold and I respect each other from a distance. Good luck fellas. I don't talk much in this thread but I read a lot.I've only been there for a couple of nights, but it was too damn chilly for me. This is one place I want to explore; guess I'll bring extra clothing if I return.
From the weather folks:
The climate in Bogotá is cool and overcast. Over the course of the year, the temperature typically varies from 44°F to 66°F and is rarely below 37°F or above 70°F.
Walked down to the area round 11:30 AM and walked the circuit. There must have been a 50-75 ladies out. Very tough decision but as I was standing on the corner thinking a very good looking blonde and brunette approached me because I was watching them walk down the street. As I don't speak Spanish the communication with the translator was difficult. After a few minutes settled for a threesome for $50,000 each for 1 hour. I thought this was my lucky day. Walked to their base of operations and the lady asked for $20,000 for the room. I gave the girls a 20 and we were on our way. Got to the room and the girls asked for the cash. I whipped out 2 $50 mil bills and started to get undressed. The girls objected as they said it was $100,000 each for threesome. I was peeved as I was already frustrated from the initial conversation but did the math and that is still pretty good considering the hotness of the girls and how much that would cost in the states with not as hot girls. Anyway, after blowjob from each and some DATY with the brunette I started fucking the blonde. Not 2 minutes into it there was a knock at the door as time was up. Wait a minute. That was 20 minutes not 1 hour. The girls then said that was correct and asked if I wanted more time. Hell no. I wanted this disaster to be over. Lesson learned. Need to learn to speak Spanish.You got robbed man. Sorry to hear about your bad experience. As bad as my spanish is it definitely makes things easier. If you want, you can pay Jackson his $20 and contact me and I'll take you down to Santa Fe.
SocalHunter
11-26-20, 04:55
When? 15 years of going to Bogota and I have not gotten used to it. No heat in buildings and shit. I hate cold!I have been to Bogota every month of the year.
I am from southern California, if I can deal with the "cold", then anyone can.
It is nothing compared to NY or Chicago winters, we are talking about 50-60 degrees here guys, not below 0.
After a few minutes settled for a threesome for $50,000 each for 1 hour. I thought this was my lucky day. Walked to their base of operations and the lady asked for $20,000 for the room. I gave the girls a 20 and we were on our way. Got to the room and the girls asked for the cash. I whipped out 2 $50 mil bills and started to get undressed. The girls objected as they said it was $100,000 each for threesome.
Not 2 minutes into it there was a knock at the door as time was up. Wait a minute. That was 20 minutes not 1 hour. The girls then said that was correct and asked if I wanted more time. Hell no. I wanted this disaster to be over. Lesson learned. Need to learn to speak Spanish.Classic newbie ripoff on the price, but standard ripoff on the time. To every man his own, but I personally can't recall one single moment when I ever got value for money from a street hooker. And I have sampled them on virtually every continent.
Arrived in Bogota Saturday night at 22:15. Breezed through immigration. Completed the "Check-Mig" form online at airport in Miami before boarding. Took less than 5 minutes. Had to show the gate agent my email receipt, marked my boarding pass and that was that. At immigration I showed the email receipt to the border patrol agent, he stamped my passport after a little small talk and I was in. Very easy and smooth process.Good to know! Could you provide insight on the current hotel stay experience and restaurant situation, etc (the normal daytime survival stuff). Also have you visited the Mezzanine yet?
DonCarlos1234
11-26-20, 07:05
Arrived late Sunday, Airbnb, hot receptionist, next day a little woosy from cramped flight, no sleep & probably altitude adjustment. Monday I accidentally met Woodman buying a sim card (didn't work) we met up for Santa Fe tour. Went in the back door of the club, found a girl with a decent body, I got us a table dance, took her to the room. 40,000. 10 min into she starts creme, crema and door knocking. I am pissed so I push her away. Back into the streets, it's 9 PM police closing things up. We find another "club" guy who says we have 18 girls. We head in and oops its 3 flights of stairs, I turn around after the 2nd flight and say BYE. Back into the street. Police not doing much but we have to wait for them to get further away before exiting. Find the 1st girl spotted as we initially arrived in taxi. Short time is 40,000 I figure better get her long enough so no one knocks on the door, so I book an hour, it's 100,000 plus room, (too much maybe) do her, she's ok but boring. Lesson. Someone said earlier, never expect a street girl to know how to pleasure a customer. I should have waited till the weekend. Will repeat.
Tuesday, feeling woosy, rested. Went to a very nice restaurant with Woodman which reminds me of the Nick Gage film, "Running with the Devil" . I'm going back there again. Wednesday, Seeking A, girl / Flight Attendant. 8. Tomorrow is another Seeking girl. (10) 600,000 cop because it's Thanksgiving here in Bogota. Who wants to go to Lido this weekend?
MongerHunger
11-26-20, 07:44
Walked down to the area round 11:30 AM and walked the circuit. There must have been a 50-75 ladies out. Very tough decision but as I was standing on the corner thinking a very good looking blonde and brunette approached me because I was watching them walk down the street. As I don't speak Spanish the communication with the translator was difficult. After a few minutes settled for a threesome for $50,000 each for 1 hour. I thought this was my lucky day. Walked to their base of operations and the lady asked for $20,000 for the room. I gave the girls a 20 and we were on our way. Got to the room and the girls asked for the cash. I whipped out 2 $50 mil bills and started to get undressed. The girls objected as they said it was $100,000 each for threesome. I was peeved as I was already frustrated from the initial conversation but did the math and that is still pretty good considering the hotness of the girls and how much that would cost in the states with not as hot girls. Anyway, after blowjob from each and some DATY with the brunette I started fucking the blonde. Not 2 minutes into it there was a knock at the door as time was up. Wait a minute. That was 20 minutes not 1 hour. The girls then said that was correct and asked if I wanted more time. Hell no. I wanted this disaster to be over. Lesson learned. Need to learn to speak Spanish.I guess you didn't care to know what the exchange rate is.
Elvis 2008
11-26-20, 16:07
E I was hoping to see why'all in Bogot next week but that did it. I'm done. Bogota is now off my list until spring or the summer. The cold and I respect each other from a distance. Good luck fellas. I don't talk much in this thread but I read a lot.I am not sure summer will be that much better. I will be in Bogota soon. I love the women, and the city is okay, but I can do without the pollution, traffic, and crazy weather.
I took a day trip to the Salt Cathedral in Zipaquira with one of my chicas, and the Cathedral was okay, not something I would recommend but okay, but I really loved the drive in the country. I also loved the city of Zipaquira, maybe it was just getting out of Bogota but my lungs seemed to thank me. We also had a great meal in that city.
That chica does a retreat in Villavicencio every year. Temp there is in the 80's and it is a cheap air fare or short bus ride from Bogota. Anyone been there and have any intel on it? I am thinking about doing a day trip there with a chica from Bogota.
You got robbed man. Sorry to hear about your bad experience. As bad as my spanish is it definitely makes things easier. If you want, you can pay Jackson his $20 and contact me and I'll take you down to Santa Fe.Yes I did but I learned from that. Went back down around 5:30 PM and came across a very pretty chocolate girl from Cali. Used my translator but asked different questions and for $50,000 I got 30 minutes and she paid for the room out of the $50 I gave her. She gave me a striptease, BJ and sex. Even offered anal but I think it was extra but I declined anyway as I was almost finished. Much better experience second time around.
I appreciate the offer but I am leaving tomorrow to go back to the US and I am just going to visit a casa in Chapinero today. I will hit you up next time I visit Columbia.
DonCarlos1234
11-26-20, 18:08
This weekend the plan is to hit Zona Rosa Brothels, Paradise, Casanova, Lido etc. I quote from one of their pages, "The girls in here are hot. They are coming from all parts of Colombia to work in these high class brothels in Zona Rosa. Prices are negotiable, but expect to pay a minimum of $100 to $200 for 1 hour" IF true, I will let you all know. So any of you ever go there? Or are we all spending time sifting thru Santa Fe looking for that one in a thousand, lost 9 or 10? LOL who wants to go?
I guess if you do not speak Spanish you will have problems in Santa Fe. I speak pretty good Spanish and get great pussy for cheap in SF.
Of course I'm handsome, hung and know how to romance these girls and pick the winners.
Some nights are better than others-- last night for example was excellent on the street many hot college types. Many clubs open clandestinely-- Did not check but a got report from an Indian guy that was excellent.
Same guy has been down here a few days and is getting a lot of good action- he speaks a little Spanish and has had good times in Tijuana and Medellin, so he knows what to do.
I went last night and had a great time with 2 different girls for $25 total -- Never heard a knock -- they were quickies -- probably spent 20-30 minutes each. I actually hardly ever get knocked on-- And the girls I go with usually will let me finish. Of course I have had bad experiences but few and far between.
Walked down to the area round 11:30 AM and walked the circuit. There must have been a 50-75 ladies out. Very tough decision but as I was standing on the corner thinking a very good looking blonde and brunette approached me because I was watching them walk down the street. As I don't speak Spanish the communication with the translator was difficult. After a few minutes settled for a threesome for $50,000 each for 1 hour. I thought this was my lucky day. Walked to their base of operations and the lady asked for $20,000 for the room. I gave the girls a 20 and we were on our way. Got to the room and the girls asked for the cash. I whipped out 2 $50 mil bills and started to get undressed. The girls objected as they said it was $100,000 each for threesome. I was peeved as I was already frustrated from the initial conversation but did the math and that is still pretty good considering the hotness of the girls and how much that would cost in the states with not as hot girls. Anyway, after blowjob from each and some DATY with the brunette I started fucking the blonde. Not 2 minutes into it there was a knock at the door as time was up. Wait a minute. That was 20 minutes not 1 hour. The girls then said that was correct and asked if I wanted more time. Hell no. I wanted this disaster to be over. Lesson learned. Need to learn to speak Spanish.The primary lesson is not to learn Spanish, but to not do a threesome with street girls if you haven't already been with one (or preferibly both) of them before. No amount of Spanish ability will help you in that situation.
It's also best to tell them two things beforehand. First that you will pay them after the deed. Second, that you only have X amount of Pesos (thus precluding their scheming to extract more out of you). Do not play the loaded Gringo with money to spare.
This weekend the plan is to hit Zona Rosa Brothels, Paradise, Casanova, Lido etc. I quote from one of their pages, "The girls in here are hot. They are coming from all parts of Colombia to work in these high class brothels in Zona Rosa. Prices are negotiable, but expect to pay a minimum of $100 to $200 for 1 hour" IF true, I will let you all know. So any of you ever go there? Or are we all spending time sifting thru Santa Fe looking for that one in a thousand, lost 9 or 10? LOL who wants to go?I wouldn't believe the hype that some brothel exclaims on their own webpage. Sorry. There are no 9's or 10's in Santa Fe in my book. That doesn't mean there isn't some good fucking to be had, but there are no 9's or 10's. I don't know about these 'high class' brothels, I've only been in them a few times and I've never had a good time. Someone else recently made a report on his trip to Lido. Said that there was nothing but 7's or less there. Looking forward to hearing your report.
Poll of the day:
Lets say you pay a fixed X amount for a prepago and you have 2 magical dials that go from 1 to 10. One dial sets the Attitude and GFE on the girl. The other sets her physical attractiveness. The sum of the dials must be 13. What would your dials be set at?
Classic newbie ripoff on the price, but standard ripoff on the time. To every man his own, but I personally can't recall one single moment when I ever got value for money from a street hooker. And I have sampled them on virtually every continent.Residencias Villa Real:
15 minutes = 5 k.
1 HR = 20 k.
1 night = 25 k.
The red hotel 2 doors from Residencias Villa Real:
1 HR = 15 k.
1 night = 35 k.
Mr Enternational
11-26-20, 21:05
The primary lesson is not to learn Spanish, but to not do a threesome with street girls if you haven't already been with one (or preferibly both) of them before. No amount of Spanish ability will help you in that situation.Yeah you will get ripped off with some English speaking chicks anywhere in the world in that same situation. Can't go wrong trying it in a termas in Brazil though. They will honor the deal 100%.
These chicks are just like tools. You have to know what to use each one for. Street chicks are strictly for quickies with no high expectations. It seems a lot of guys either forget or don't realize that.
This weekend the plan is to hit Zona Rosa Brothels, Paradise, Casanova, Lido etc. I quote from one of their pages, "The girls in here are hot. They are coming from all parts of Colombia to work in these high class brothels in Zona Rosa. Prices are negotiable, but expect to pay a minimum of $100 to $200 for 1 hour" IF true, I will let you all know. So any of you ever go there? Or are we all spending time sifting thru Santa Fe looking for that one in a thousand, lost 9 or 10? LOL who wants to go?Between SF and Lido, there is a wide range of low- and mid-price options in Bogota. Did you read the Routard's FAQ?
I never went to any of those Zona T clubs during my stay in Bogota. Frankly because I don't understand the concept of mongering in Bogota for $100+ per hour. Those places will also charge you through the nose for drinks and push hard to buy them. Not my type of scene.
For that kind of dough I'd rather play with real model-class casino girls in Panama City. And it's a bit warmer, too.
But by all means, it's your money. Please do tell us how it went.
I've only been there for a couple of nights, but it was too damn chilly for me. This is one place I want to explore; guess I'll bring extra clothing if I return.
From the weather folks:
The climate in Bogot is cool and overcast. Over the course of the year, the temperature typically varies from 44F to 66F and is rarely below 37F or above 70F.Seems as tho the rainy season has started early this year-- There usually are 2 one in winter and another in spring-- I would say it is rainy a third of the time here-.
Besides the rainy seasons it is usually very pleasant -- It actually does get into the 70's often and sometimes 80's. The sun is so powerful here as we are at a high elevation.
LeyenLouvain
11-26-20, 21:51
Walked to their base of operations and the lady asked for $20,000 for the room. I gave the girls a 20 and we were on our way. Got to the room and the girls asked for the cash. I whipped out 2 $50 mil bills and started to get undressed. The girls objected as they said it was $100,000 each for threesome. Doesn't sound too bad as they were hot. However the going rate for the 20 min room is 6,000 I believe.
Also I wonder if using pen / paper / phrase book looks better than having a translator on your phone.
This weekend the plan is to hit Zona Rosa Brothels, Paradise, Casanova, Lido etc. I quote from one of their pages, "The girls in here are hot. They are coming from all parts of Colombia to work in these high class brothels in Zona Rosa. Prices are negotiable, but expect to pay a minimum of $100 to $200 for 1 hour" IF true, I will let you all know. So any of you ever go there? Or are we all spending time sifting thru Santa Fe looking for that one in a thousand, lost 9 or 10? LOL who wants to go?I have a wingman with me, but I'd be down to check out some spots. Going to be at Lido's tonight so look for an Asian guy with a Gringo LOL.
The cancel my flight for Cartagena due to the mayors protocol and most of the AirBnB owners are not allowing guest. I was looking at changing my time to Bogot however I did not like those numbers for the weather. My friend thinks it's not that cold and we can deal with it. He's never been to Bogot but reading your comment reignited my apprehension. Cold weather and I don't get along and I see the highs in the low 60's and the lows in the mid 40's for the next week. Is the co- really uncomfortable for you? Is it longsleeve weather or you need a coat weather?Yea this no guest policy shit is ridiculous. I literally booked two different Airbnbs and a hotel and they all didn't let my girl in. They were asking her 21 questions like she was passing through immigration. Finally after playing coy, one of my Airbnbs just let her in after seeing me visually frustrated.
The weather is cold, but not unbearable. It just could be a lot better. I'd definitely say it's a mini jacket weather. Wear a long sleeve and you might be a bit nippy. To be honest, the rain is pissing me off more than the weather is and it's been storming every single day.
Santa Fe is a sketchy area, so stick to that 1-2 block that Fiebre / Paisa is on, the next block parallel also ok but I try to stick to this one block, and taxi / uber out ASAP.
Lido, I have been there a total of 1 time in the last 2 yrs, maybe it was my bad luck, there was like 7 girls there, 7/10 at best. And NO it is not the best Bogota has to offer.
Zona T is fun if you are into the bar scene and speak some Spanish, bars are opening again but close early, I am not sure if clubs are open yet I do not think so.
I have been to some other places where they have girls / drinks. But to be honest, they are smaller and once a while you find something but if you are only here for a short time, I would still stick with Santa Fe and escorts.Yea Santa Fe was a bit sketch for me, I'll probably just stick to online escorts, Lido's and SA for now. Maybe if I'm feeling adventurous another day.
Can you link which SA you are using? There are like 10 different ones out there and looking for one where someone has had some success.Seeking Arrangement? Unless you're asking something else.
MarquisdeSade1
11-26-20, 23:32
I wouldn't believe the hype that some brothel exclaims on their own webpage. Sorry. There are no 9's or 10's in Santa Fe in my book. That doesn't mean there isn't some good fucking to be had, but there are no 9's or 10's. I don't know about these 'high class' brothels, I've only been in them a few times and I've never had a good time. Someone else recently made a report on his trip to Lido. Said that there was nothing but 7's or less there. Looking forward to hearing your report.
Poll of the day:
Lets say you pay a fixed X amount for a prepago and you have 2 magical dials that go from 1 to 10. One dial sets the Attitude and GFE on the girl. The other sets her physical attractiveness. The sum of the dials must be 13. What would your dials be set at?8 on looks 10 on GFE.
But you insist on a total of 13 so? 6 on looks and 7 PSE.
I like 8's but a 7 will do.
PSE is less negotiable than the face.
I don't care if its Miss Universe if its not PSE, no gracias.
Just give me the 7 that's going to fuck me into a coma todo PSE.
Yeah you will get ripped off with some English speaking chicks anywhere in the world in that same situation. Can't go wrong trying it in a termas in Brazil though. They will honor the deal 100%.
These chicks are just like tools. You have to know what to use each one for. Street chicks are strictly for quickies with no high expectations. It seems a lot of guys either forget or don't realize that.You're right, but the Termas are definitely the exception to the rule. I've had threesomes in the termas with girls I didn't know beforehand and they worked out fine. Actually one other place. Devil's Den in Pattaya (is it still around? I did a few threesomes there with girls I didn't know and they were also good. But the termas and Devil's Den are controlled environments. In the vast majority of venues, this type of thing will not work out well.
I have studied Espanol for a few years before moving here-- On my own and classes.
One course that is easy to learn alone with is Pimsleur Spanish-- I found it very helpful all in MP3 if you can master the 1st 3 levels of 90 lessons you shall be in good shape.
https://www.pimsleur.com/learn-spanish-latin-american
I wouldn't believe the hype that some brothel exclaims on their own webpage. Sorry. There are no 9's or 10's in Santa Fe in my book. That doesn't mean there isn't some good fucking to be had, but there are no 9's or 10's. I don't know about these 'high class' brothels, I've only been in them a few times and I've never had a good time. Someone else recently made a report on his trip to Lido. Said that there was nothing but 7's or less there. Looking forward to hearing your report.
Poll of the day:
Lets say you pay a fixed X amount for a prepago and you have 2 magical dials that go from 1 to 10. One dial sets the Attitude and GFE on the girl. The other sets her physical attractiveness. The sum of the dials must be 13. What would your dials be set at?So many good girls that can provide experience, so few beauty queens in this business at a magical $X that I'm willing to part with, so for me it's clearly 10 for attractiveness + 3 for attitude. The reality of life is with more $ you can get 10 in looks and 10 in attitude.
Seems as tho the rainy season has started early this year-- There usually are 2 one in winter and another in spring-- I would say it is rainy a third of the time here-.
Besides the rainy seasons it is usually very pleasant -- It actually does get into the 70's often and sometimes 80's. The sun is so powerful here as we are at a high elevation.I suspect the brought the 3rd rainy season to Bogota. My apologies. It always rains while I'm here.
8 on looks 10 on GFE.
But you insist on a total of 13 so? 6 on looks and 7 PSE.
I like 8's but a 7 will do.
PSE is less negotiable than the face.
I don't care if its Miss Universe if its not PSE, no gracias.
Just give me the 7 that's going to fuck me into a coma todo PSE.LOL. I chose 13 so that people would be forced to make trade off and reveal what they value more. For me, I think if I'm going to be spending an hour with a girl, the dials are at Looks: 5, Attitude: 8. If I'm only going to be spending a santa fe 5 with her, who cares, Looks 10, attitude 3!
I'm figuring out when to schedule my SA girls. I remember Woodman mentioning that SF has a breakfast, lunch, and dinner shift. And it seemed to me that thing died down earlier than expected. Maybe 10 pm or midnight (don't remember). Without the clubs down there, when do things start to dry up in the evening?
LatinaLover#1
11-27-20, 03:45
https://www.noticiasrcn.com/nacional/juez-ordena-exigir-nuevamente-prueba-de-covid-viajeros-366248
A local judge has issued the government to require a covid test to enter Colombia again. I think. From what I can grasp from the article in Spanish. Just issued at 7 pm tonight. I don't think it's become law yet and I don't know how much power the judge has to demand this action. BUT knowing Lopez she may just want to jump on this and twist Duque's arm again.
I'm figuring out when to schedule my SA girls. I remember Woodman mentioning that SF has a breakfast, lunch, and dinner shift. And it seemed to me that thing died down earlier than expected. Maybe 10 pm or midnight (don't remember). Without the clubs down there, when do things start to dry up in the evening?Clubs are open at least some-- I have been in Atonis, Troya, Venus and one without a name.
They have sound proofed some with maze hallways at entrance -- This makes me feel a bit claustrophobic, before it was easier to just leave now you must wait for the doorman to let you out-.
Prices are higher now, 10 mil a beer.
I was in Atonis and Venus last Saturday night very late to give a tour -- arrived at 2 am-- It was OK some hot college age girls about 10 or so 4 were pretty hot.
-- I believe it was probably better earlier-- we stayed until 4 am when lights came on. He did find a girl he really liked and banged her upstairs.
So if you get to Bogota late, there should be a club open.
We also were on the street same night at 1:30 am -- While there were not a lot of girls there were a few that were decent-- So it is possible to find a decent streetie sweetie late.
-- Also checked out Troya on Monday night about 9 pm-- Was ok-- there were about 8 girls, got a lap dance from a Latina Anna Nicole (all natural). She actually let me finger-bang her at my table and shot an ice-cube out of her pussy I paid her 20 mil ($6).
She was being really affectionate to me and I wanted to bang her but I was doing a tour. I will go back and jump her bones one of these days. There was only maybe 1 other girl that night I liked there.
Last night (wed), same guy I was with on Saturday was in Atonis and said it was way better than the late Saturday-- he has been boning many SF girls and is very happy. He just went to Medellin. The streets were really good too-.
Lotsa fresh faced 18-20 somethings. By the way I know a driver / guide for Medellin-- PM me for info.
Best time to go to SF is 6-10 pm Wed-Sat-- The afternoons are 2nd best for street-- But it seems there is always at least a few girls that are hot even when late.
Girls in clubs are asking 50-80 mil+ Streetie Sweeties 30-40 mil+.
I would also recommend hitting La Mezzanine and other massage places during day on Tues.-Friday about 1-5 pm.
https://www.noticiasrcn.com/nacional/juez-ordena-exigir-nuevamente-prueba-de-covid-viajeros-366248
A local judge has issued the government to require a covid test to enter Colombia again. I think. From what I can grasp from the article in Spanish. Just issued at 7 pm tonight. I don't think it's become law yet and I don't know how much power the judge has to demand this action. BUT knowing Lopez she may just want to jump on this and twist Duque's arm again.That sucks if it's true.
DonCarlos1234
11-28-20, 01:11
Between SF and Lido, there is a wide range of low- and mid-price options in Bogota. Did you read the Routard's FAQ?
.Yes and I will fill in the blanks.
LOL Sorry missed your post here, Mcd2293 I was dropped off at La Mansion on 86 a 13 a 09 They showed me 15 girls as soon as I walked in the club last night. Mostly 7's 30 r 4 8's 1, 9 (I got her phone number) . 1 hour (no sex) cost me 200 cop. Chalk it up to research but she was fun to talk to. She'll be visiting my place. Off the books. Taxi driver took me to the wrong place. This la mansion is 3 blocks from Lido. Never got to Lido. I will go again as soon as I finish this post. This AM I had a Seeking visitor that blew me away. 10 in looks, 10 in attitude and wants to return to cook dinner. She dropped out of Seeking because she doesn't like the men there. LOL Was surprised when I gave her 250,000 COP. I love Bogota weather, Love the adventures and expect a lot of bumps along the way. Fuck Covid. Another 10 days in Bogota, then Medellin. Yesterday I got a sim card and internet service for 11 usd. I love Colombia. Enjoy and be nice to them.
Yes and I will fill in the blanks.
LOL Sorry missed your post here, Mcd2293 I was dropped off at La Mansion on 86 a 13 a 09 They showed me 15 girls as soon as I walked in the club last night. Mostly 7's 30 r 4 8's 1, 9 (I got her phone number) . 1 hour (no sex) cost me 200 cop. Chalk it up to research but she was fun to talk to. She'll be visiting my place. Off the books. Taxi driver took me to the wrong place. This la mansion is 3 blocks from Lido. Never got to Lido. I will go again as soon as I finish this post. This AM I had a Seeking visitor that blew me away. 10 in looks, 10 in attitude and wants to return to cook dinner. She dropped out of Seeking because she doesn't like the men there. LOL Was surprised when I gave her 250,000 COP. I love Bogota weather, Love the adventures and expect a lot of bumps along the way. Fuck Covid. Another 10 days in Bogota, then Medellin. Yesterday I got a sim card and internet service for 11 usd. I love Colombia. Enjoy and be nice to them.For some reason, I didn't have overwhelming success with Seeking in Bogota. Either I didn't find what I wanted or they were just asking way too much. I had a girl who quoted me 1.7 million for 3 days. I was like get out of hereee.
Went to Lido's yesterday. Had some better talent but maybe my standards were too high. Only had 2 girls who caught my attention. One quoted me for 850 (including room) and the other 750. I was like y'all are crazy and headed out. Ended up contacting this online escort that I've been smashing for 150 and called it a night.
Booked a ticket to go back to Medellin Sunday. Maybe Bogota isn't my cup of tea.
I have not had much luck finding any gangbang events posted recently. If someone could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
I'm looking for a guide for ZonaT; With Covid and so much being shut down, I would rather have someone who knows the area than waste a ton of time.
I'm already going to meet up with Woodman for a tour of Santa Fe, but looking for someone specifically who knows the club and strip club scene up there. Thanks!
BigButtDetecto
11-29-20, 22:08
Clubs are open at least some-- I have been in Atonis, Troya, Venus and one without a name.
They have sound proofed some with maze hallways at entrance -- This makes me feel a bit claustrophobic, before it was easier to just leave now you must wait for the doorman to let you out-.
Prices are higher now, 10 mil a beer.
I was in Atonis and Venus last Saturday night very late to give a tour -- arrived at 2 am-- It was OK some hot college age girls about 10 or so 4 were pretty hot.
-- I believe it was probably better earlier-- we stayed until 4 am when lights came on. He did find a girl he really liked and banged her upstairs.
So if you get to Bogota late, there should be a club open.
We also were on the street same night at 1:30 am -- While there were not a lot of girls there were a few that were decent-- So it is possible to find a decent streetie sweetie late.
-- Also checked out Troya on Monday night about 9 pm-- Was ok-- there were about 8 girls, got a lap dance from a Latina Anna Nicole (all natural). She actually let me finger-bang her at my table and shot an ice-cube out of her pussy I paid her 20 mil ($6).
She was being really affectionate to me and I wanted to bang her but I was doing a tour. I will go back and jump her bones one of these days. There was only maybe 1 other girl that night I liked there.
Last night (wed), same guy I was with on Saturday was in Atonis and said it was way better than the late Saturday-- he has been boning many SF girls and is very happy. He just went to Medellin. The streets were really good too-.
Lotsa fresh faced 18-20 somethings. By the way I know a driver / guide for Medellin-- PM me for info.
Best time to go to SF is 6-10 pm Wed-Sat-- The afternoons are 2nd best for street-- But it seems there is always at least a few girls that are hot even when late.
Girls in clubs are asking 50-80 mil+ Streetie Sweeties 30-40 mil+.
I would also recommend hitting La Mezzanine and other massage places during day on Tues.-Friday about 1-5 pm.Half of the girls in SF clubs are the same as outside. They are street girls during the day and work in the clubs at night which is safer. You save a lot if you go to SG instead of the clubs. And less covid risk.
I went to mezzanines once I di dnot like it. Very small, not many girls and far from SF.
Chapinero on 76th street is better.
Mr Enternational
11-30-20, 00:40
Half of the girls in SF clubs are the same as outside. They are street girls during the day and work in the clubs at night which is safer.How is it safer?
DonCarlos1234
11-30-20, 06:48
I hear horror stories from back in the US about the virus surge. Glad I escaped. Thursday searching for closed casas and streets too dark to find them in the rain. Cab drivers are not dependable. Friday paranoid (respectable) Cab driver can't find Casanova or Lido (need a flashlight?) and when seeing police everywhere in Santa Fe says, "you are crazy to come here. " I say "yes I am". I go home early, Saturday I see Woodman for a little while and do the walk around. Get tired of it and go home. Get a call from a gringo who lives in Santa Fe, part owner of Atonis. We hang out at his table and get V-VIP treatment. Spend 10,000 pesos for a few table dances 10,000 pesos. Take a Venz girl upstairs 70,000. Nice enough I get her number (Lisa) Next week looking forward to more adventures.
Mr Enternational
11-30-20, 07:54
I hear horror stories from back in the US about the virus surge. Glad I escaped. What horror stories are you hearing? I was in Asia from the beginning of the virus thing until the end of September. I had read stories too. But once I got to the States the only difference that I saw was people wearing masks everywhere and not being able to eat in some restaurants. But from the stories I was hearing, it sounded as if people were falling out in the streets. Maybe I would see things different if I was working inside of a hospital, but outside as a regular joe, meh.
and when seeing police everywhere in Santa Fe says, "you are crazy to come here. " I say "yes I am". I go home early,It seems the best time to go would be when there are plenty of police around. Why would you have to be crazy to be there at a time when the place is most secure?
Atonis. We hang out at his table and get V-VIP treatment. Spend 10,000 pesos for a few table dances 10,000 pesos.I reported 10,000 a couple years back. Some guys did not believe it. Maybe they were used to going in and getting ripped off. I did not do anything special. The chick was the one that asked if I wanted her to dance and told me 10,000. And when I finally agreed, she got up and took her clothes off and started dancing.
That sucks if it's true.Can someone confirm the requirements to enter Colombia? Thinking about making another quick trip back.
Also is their anyplace that is like Mezzanine? I really enjoyed myself their. I think I am going to book Hotel Dann Carlton I mentioned that is across the street and pop over to Mezzanine every few hours.
Showdown.
Can someone confirm the requirements to enter Colombia? Thinking about making another quick trip back.
Also is their anyplace that is like Mezzanine? I really enjoyed myself their. I think I am going to book Hotel Dann Carlton I mentioned that is across the street and pop over to Mezzanine every few hours.
Showdown.Looks like they are re-instituting the PCR test Requirement (but this time within 48 hours of flying) and more importantly requiring a 14-day quarantine upon arrival. A judge order this late last week and the government has until tomorrow to challenge it.
Looks like they are re-instituting the PCR test Requirement (but this time within 48 hours of flying) and more importantly requiring a 14-day quarantine upon arrival. A judge order this late last week and the government has until tomorrow to challenge it.Gosh I don't want to go through all of that again-especially within 48 hours of flying. I guess the ladies of the Mezzanine will have to wait.
Showdown.
Elvis 2008
11-30-20, 18:21
Looks like they are re-instituting the PCR test Requirement (but this time within 48 hours of flying) and more importantly requiring a 14-day quarantine upon arrival. A judge order this late last week and the government has until tomorrow to challenge it.Combo, that is not official. I have heard nothing from the airlines or our state department on this. I could be wrong but I am skeptical a single judge in Colombia wields this kind of power. This seems more like a partisan publicity stunt more than anything else. If you hear anything official, let us know.
Gosh I don't want to go through all of that again-especially within 48 hours of flying. I guess the ladies of the Mezzanine will have to wait.
Showdown.Yes, I'm supposed to go this Saturday, but it doesn't look like that will happen unless the government challenges the order. I'm scouring the Colombian news to find updates.
MarquisdeSade1
11-30-20, 20:07
Yes, I'm supposed to go this Saturday, but it doesn't look like that will happen unless the government challenges the order. I'm scouring the Colombian news to find updates.https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Mr Enternational
11-30-20, 20:32
Can someone confirm the requirements to enter Colombia? Thinking about making another quick trip back.I am in the plane to Bogota now. Just had to fill out the immigration paperwork online. That is all.
I have not had much luck finding any gangbang events posted recently. If someone could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.It's under the radar behind closed doors but just drop me a PM, I will give you the contact.
I hear horror stories from back in the US about the virus surge. Glad I escaped. Thursday searching for closed casas and streets too dark to find them in the rain. Cab drivers are not dependable. Friday paranoid (respectable) Cab driver can't find Casanova or Lido (need a flashlight?) and when seeing police everywhere in Santa Fe says, "you are crazy to come here. " I say "yes I am". I go home early, Saturday I see Woodman for a little while and do the walk around. Get tired of it and go home. Get a call from a gringo who lives in Santa Fe, part owner of Atonis. We hang out at his table and get V-VIP treatment. Spend 10,000 pesos for a few table dances 10,000 pesos. Take a Venz girl upstairs 70,000. Nice enough I get her number (Lisa) Next week looking forward to more adventures.No horror stories here unless you live in a nursing home.
And assuming you're boning multiple pro women (who likely are boning many other guys whether they admit it or not), you are in way more danger in Colombia than you'd be in the US. Unless of course you fuck just as many hookers in the US as you do in Colombia.
Mr Enternational
12-01-20, 05:14
I hit the Colpatria ATM in immigration and took out 900,000 twice. It said there may be a fee, but also said that info was not attainable at the time from my bank? Anyway, there was $249.21 taken out of my Schwab account 2 times. So the exchange rate I received was 3611.41. At the same time, the XE app on my phone lists the exchange rate at a lower 3596.55.
DonCarlos1234
12-01-20, 05:28
No horror stories here unless you live in a nursing home.
It might not be a horror story, yet is is not looking good. Hope Colombia doesn't go backwards.
https://knpr.org/npr/2020-11/california-hospitalizations-covid-19-surging-icus-may-be-overwhelmed-weeks
Meanwhile I found a Seeking girl, law school student, legal secretary that blew me away today. 10 plus! Also visited with my tour guide from last year (no sex) up in pargue 93, just intelligent conversation. Loosing interest in the "walk around" world. Doesn't mean I won't go there, just that quality people & memories are much higher value then the wild nights which quickly fade.
It might not be a horror story, yet is is not looking good. Hope Colombia doesn't go backwards.
https://knpr.org/npr/2020-11/california-hospitalizations-covid-19-surging-icus-may-be-overwhelmed-weeks
Meanwhile I found a Seeking girl, law school student, legal secretary that blew me away today. 10 plus! Also visited with my tour guide from last year (no sex) up in pargue 93, just intelligent conversation. Loosing interest in the "walk around" world. Doesn't mean I won't go there, just that quality people & memories are much higher value then the wild nights which quickly fade.
NPR, really?
What a joke. They are not a creditable unbiased news source. The article reads like a propaganda piece for Garcetti and Newsome.
John Clayton
12-01-20, 07:47
NPR, really?
What a joke. They are not a creditable unbiased news source....
As opposed to... ?
As opposed to... ?Excellent point.
I can't name one major mainstream media outlet that I would consider a creditable outlet for unbiased news. It does not exist.
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Mr Enternational
12-01-20, 17:07
Minister of Health says no PCR test required for now.
https://www.eltiempo.com/salud/ministerio-de-salud-dice-que-por-ahora-las-pruebas-pcr-no-son-requisito-para-entrar-a-colombia-552174
YippieKayay
12-01-20, 17:53
Minister of Health says no PCR test required for now.
https://www.eltiempo.com/salud/ministerio-de-salud-dice-que-por-ahora-las-pruebas-pcr-no-son-requisito-para-entrar-a-colombia-552174Am I misunderstanding? He's asking the judge to clarify before he will impose anything. Could go either way.
Minister of Health says no PCR test required for now.
https://www.eltiempo.com/salud/ministerio-de-salud-dice-que-por-ahora-las-pruebas-pcr-no-son-requisito-para-entrar-a-colombia-552174Damm this is good news; Hopefully, it holds out a few weeks. A rapid PCR test near me is almost $400.
MarquisdeSade1
12-01-20, 18:34
Am I misunderstanding? He's asking the judge to clarify before he will impose anything. Could go either way.https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/01/david-mamet-calls-out-experts-and-questions-lockdowns-the-virus-here-is-government/
El Mechanico
12-01-20, 21:20
Am I misunderstanding? He's asking the judge to clarify before he will impose anything. Could go either way.From what I gathered and some of it probably got lost in translation. Apparently Minister Ruiz called the Judges bluff and told him to answer the questions of what type of test, and when and where can travelers get tested before the Judge can institute such a broad restriction on travel in and out of the COL.
El Mechanico.
Elvis 2008
12-02-20, 20:18
From what I gathered and some of it probably got lost in translation. Apparently Minister Ruiz called the Judges bluff and told him to answer the questions of what type of test, and when and where can travelers get tested before the Judge can institute such a broad restriction on travel in and out of the COL.
El Mechanico.I just flew into Bogota. I was here 2 days after the travel ban was rescinded. It was very serious and uptight then. Getting through customs was a breeze in comparison. I got through in less than one minute seriously. You do have to fill out the corona app prior to the airline getting you a boarding pass but literally no one in Colombia checked mine.
Also, there has been return of some traffic though airports are still ghost towns compared to what they were. Like I said before, people and countries are learning to live with Corona. I am skeptical about the vaccines but I really hope they work as well as advertised.
I am the son of two veteran journalists and NPR is as reliable as AP or Reuters.
I'm thinking about going back to Bogota the last week of December or the first week of January. Are the casas and Santa Fe ladies available during this time or are they generally away for the holidays?
Also are their any other casas like Mezzanine (price, selection etc)?
Showdown.
I'm thinking about going back to Bogota the last week of December or the first week of January. Are the casas and Santa Fe ladies available during this time or are they generally away for the holidays?
Also are their any other casas like Mezzanine (price, selection etc)?
Showdown.It will be slower for sure--Christmas, New Years are usually pretty dead. Prices the same.
It will be slower for sure--Christmas, New Years are usually pretty dead. Prices the same.Thanks for the info. Damn that sucks. I have a week vacation to burn and I wanted to enjoy the ladies. I guess I need to find another locale to get with the ladies. DR? Costa Rica?
Showdown.
Elvis 2008
12-04-20, 00:27
I'm thinking about going back to Bogota the last week of December or the first week of January. Are the casas and Santa Fe ladies available during this time or are they generally away for the holidays?
Also are their any other casas like Mezzanine (price, selection etc)?
Showdown.Showdown, it is about 50 to 75% of what it is preCovid. Clubs are open on the sly. They wait for the cops to drive by and then let you in. Thing is that even though it is not as busy, I saw more lookers than I did preCovid.
And I think the quality at Club Fiebre was better than I have ever seen.
Mr Enternational
12-04-20, 03:25
And I think the quality at Club Fiebre was better than I have ever seen.What time are they open? I think I will slide through there tomorrow evening.
DonCarlos1234
12-04-20, 05:49
Showdown, it is about 50 to 75% of what it is preCovid. Clubs are open on the sly. They wait for the cops to drive by and then let you in. Thing is that even though it is not as busy, I saw more lookers than I did preCovid.
And I think the quality at Club Fiebre was better than I have ever seen.LOL 140,000 cop for 40 (actual) minutes she was a deal and probably a 9. 20,000 table rape was good also. Good to see you guys in person. I need to recuperate.
I heard from another forum member that Bogota will undergo another lockdown on December 14th. I have not heard anything about this. Has anyone else? If its true, I'm probably going to change my plans up.
Elvis 2008
12-04-20, 08:31
What time are they open? I think I will slide through there tomorrow evening.I am not sure exactly and they are open on the sly as I said. I only saw one crummy club, I think it is San Francisco, was open when I went by at 2 PM. Then when we went at 8 PM, most of the good clubs were open but they shut down the streets and clubs at 11 PM.
If you like spinners with a tight ass, my favorite is Vanessa. With a tip, she does BBBJ and she has that special Latina ability to fuck you so fast and hard, your dick is at risk of becoming dust.
I heard from another forum member that Bogota will undergo another lockdown on December 14th. I have not heard anything about this. Has anyone else? If its true, I'm probably going to change my plans up.Sorry I was misinformed. False alarm.
MarquisdeSade1
12-04-20, 20:17
Sorry I was misinformed. False alarm.https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-un/un-warns-2021-shaping-up-to-be-a-humanitarian-catastrophe-idUSKBN28E2JD
Egy Monger New
12-05-20, 13:45
I've RTFF, but most reports go back to pre-COVID. Any issues bringing chicas back in these days?
Elvis 2008
12-07-20, 13:51
I've RTFF, but most reports go back to pre-COVID. Any issues bringing chicas back in these days?I had points and stayed at Bogota Marriott hotel, which is too much to pay for IMO on your own, and had no issues unlike my last visit pre Covid. Things have calmed down in Colombia with Covid compared to last time. My guess, and it is just a guess, is that you are not going to see many problems with bringing women back like there was.
I have seen the Hilton on some lists as a "girl friendly" hotel. Apparently not since COVID. You get your first visitor for free. After that, it is $39 per head.
I also learned that not all AirBnBs are created equal. I got one near the Tequendama. The owner said guests are fine. But the place is not very nice at all. Looks almost like a santa fe motel with rough sheets and limited hot water. I woke up this morning feeling gross and decided to head to the Hilton.
I have seen the Hilton on some lists as a "girl friendly" hotel. Apparently not since COVID. You get your first visitor for free. After that, it is $39 per head.
I also learned that not all AirBnBs are created equal. I got one near the Tequendama. The owner said guests are fine. But the place is not very nice at all. Looks almost like a santa fe motel with rough sheets and limited hot water. I woke up this morning feeling gross and decided to head to the Hilton.I don't know why it would surprise you that all Airbnbs are not the same?
ArmnHammer69
12-08-20, 04:59
Thinking of making the trip down to Bogota just read that Fiebre and some clubs are open. Are paisas and fiebre open everyday until 11 pm? They are two of my favourite places in the world. What about Sunday's?
Can anyone recommend a good Air BNB in Bogota that's GF friendly. Preferably with good internet. Looking to stay for a month at $500 US. Any Suggestions?
Can anyone recommend a good AirBnB in Bogota that's GF friendly, preferably with good internet? Looking to stay for a month for less than $400. Any suggestions?
Can anyone recommend a good AirBnB in Bogota that's GF friendly, preferably with good internet? Looking to stay for a month for less than $400. Any suggestions?Airbnb places are a constantly changing target, I've stayed in a few in Bogota but never really found guest friendly places. Best is to search directly on Airbnb. The month stay will eliminate many of them unless you are booking a way in advance (since good places tend to have some bookings in place already, and you won't get a full month). And read the house rules, they often say something about guests. And it would be best to check with the host as well. Many of them are in close proximity to the host's residence, and hosts with families may not want a stream of working chicas coming and going.
Anyway, good luck. I'm hoping to do something similar myself, and I know it ends up being a bit of work doing the search on Airbnb, but the only way to go.
El Mechanico
12-09-20, 16:27
Can anyone recommend a good AirBnB in Bogota that's GF friendly, preferably with good internet? Looking to stay for a month for less than $400. Any suggestions?This is my standard question when searching AirBnB spots, anywhere in the world.
I search the area I want to stay in, choose 6-7 rentals that I like and copy and paste the following message to the different hosts:
"Hola David,
El Mechanico aqui de LOS Estados Unidos.
Estoy pensando en alquilando tu apto para mi viaje en Dec. Seria un problema si invito unas novias al apto? Solo una a la vez, no todo la noche, No fiestas, no drogas, no musica y todo respecto para las vecinos.
Gracias.
El Mechanico".
I have all good reviews from previous trips so a majority of the hosts either send the invitation to reserve or even better, respond with a message telling me it will be ok to bring gfs back to the rental. I reserve with someone who responds to the message so I will have something in writing saying it was ok. I know, this means nothing as I am a guest in their country but at least I know it is ok at the start of the rental.
More importantly, you will find out which ones do not allow chicas and you can eliminate them from your search.
Hope this helps.
El Mechanic0.
Omicron Gamma
12-09-20, 19:16
Thinking of making the trip down to Bogota just read that Fiebre and some clubs are open. Are paisas and fiebre open everyday until 11 pm? They are two of my favourite places in the world. What about Sunday's?And let us know the price of the take home fee as well please. When there in March the girls took between 150 - 200 k for the 4 hour stay.
10 weeks to go!
The Tall Man
12-10-20, 03:23
And let us know the price of the take home fee as well please. When there in March the girls took between 150 - 200 k for the 4 hour stay.
10 weeks to go!This post pricked my interest so I might take a drive over to Bogota (I live in Medellin) this coming weekend.
The Tall Man.
Does anyone know of a good spot on a Sunday night? I don't arrive until Sunday late afternoon, and want to get out there that night but hear a lot of Bogota is closed on Sunday night. Anyone have suggestions on where I should head? I'm staying up in ZonaT, so ideally something around there if possible.
I will write up a more in depth trip report but I royally screwed up my logistics on this trip and it had a major impact on my enjoyment level. I will follow your protocol on the next trip.
This is my standard question when searching AirBnB spots, anywhere in the world.
I search the area I want to stay in, choose 6-7 rentals that I like and copy and paste the following message to the different hosts:
"Hola David,
El Mechanico aqui de LOS Estados Unidos.
Estoy pensando en alquilando tu apto para mi viaje en Dec. Seria un problema si invito unas novias al apto? Solo una a la vez, no todo la noche, No fiestas, no drogas, no musica y todo respecto para las vecinos.
Gracias.
El Mechanico".
I have all good reviews from previous trips so a majority of the hosts either send the invitation to reserve or even better, respond with a message telling me it will be ok to bring gfs back to the rental. I reserve with someone who responds to the message so I will have something in writing saying it was ok. I know, this means nothing as I am a guest in their country but at least I know it is ok at the start of the rental.
More importantly, you will find out which ones do not allow chicas and you can eliminate them from your search.
Hope this helps.
El Mechanic0.
I'm into 18 year old spinners. Last year when I came to Bogota, I found my type of girls at what Woodman calls the "south end" of the stroll. I also HATE condoms. Last year, I nearly batted 1,000 getting the girls to let me bang them raw for an extra 50 k (occasionally 100 k).
Yesterday, I was in Santa Fe from 6 pm. Midnight and had ZERO success. I found a few cuties. I took about 4 to the room and not one of them would go for it. I even tried a ridiculously high tip offer. WTF? I thought these chicks were more desperate than ever. But I had no luck. I did get to suck some nice teenage titties in the room. Including 2 girls who had a little milk. But Goddamn, I was sorely disappointed. (Note: I did hit Santa Fe Tuesday morning and was 1/2 for girls going raw). I hit Atoni's, Fiebre, Venus and didn't see anything I would consider a MUST FUCK. So I went home empty handed and full nutted.
By contrast, about 75% of the Seeking girls I've hooked up with agreed to no condoms in advance. And I've banged a few stunners. Again, my main problem is logistics. I have a shitty apartment near Santa Fe that might scare girls off. Then I have a room at the Hilton, which is very nice but costs $39 / girl to bring up and makes them fill out a ton of paperwork just to come in.
I think my next trip, I'm going to get a guest friendly AirB&be in one of the nicest parts of town and make SA my main focus. That said, Seeking is hard to manage with 2-3 dates per day. Girls flake. Girls come very late, Girls come right on time. And you have a refractory period to recover to bang the next girl that can shrink to very little when your afternoon girl comes 2 hours late and your evening girl is right on time. That's the allure of Santa Fe. The girls are right there. You see one you want, you bang her, then go home relax and go back out when you are horny again.
Hanging with a friend drinking vodka and doing other stuff-- about 11-2 a.
20 girls in my opinion average except 4-5 girls.
Did not go to other clubs all were open.
Some nice SGs tonight.
1/2 bottle of Absolute 100 mil -- Full 200.
Last night the SGs were out in force-- I really like hitting the SGs more because I find more fresh face college types out there-- much less silicone.
On a sad note a guy I know got really drunk took a girl from Piasa to his hotel-- left his safe open and she walked out with 7 GS-- See photo.
LatinaLover#1
12-13-20, 22:58
Hi guys,
I met this girl many years ago. Just wondering if someone knows her. She is pro from seeking. I lost track of her. It would be nice to see her again. She was sooo crazy in bedCan't tell you how many favs I've lost touch with over the years. 90% of the time it's because they get their cell phone stolen and get a new number or they get a boyfriend and there's always that chance they get a gringo to pay to keep them. Works best to keep in touch when your back in the states, if you wait to long between trips, they usually disappear.
Hanging with a friend drinking vodka and doing other stuff-- about 11-2 a.
20 girls in my opinion average except 4-5 girls.
Did not go to other clubs all were open.
Some nice SGs tonight.
1/2 bottle of Absolute 100 mil -- Full 200.Hi Woodman,
Tell me please how are things right now in SF? I am planning a trip to BOG but don't whether to go before Christmas of after NYear? I will stay once again at Tequendama private suites, at walking distance from SF. Tried to call you but apparently you have a different mobile number. Send me please a private message with your new contact. All the best.
Hi all,
I was in Paisa club last night (Saturday night, so maybe prices are higher? First time I've ever been to Santa Fe.
I ordered 3 x Corona beers, and was charged 90,000 COP.
Is this standard, or was I ripped off? Not the absolute end of the world considering it's $25, but if it's a known rip off club, I'll know not to go there in future. It certainly is very expensive for Colombia if that's a legitimate price!
I don't speak much Spanish at all, first time in Colombia, first time in Sante Fe etc, so it's entirely possible they ripped me off, but thought I'd run it past you guys first.
Thanks.
Hi all,
I was in Paisa club last night (Saturday night, so maybe prices are higher? First time I've ever been to Santa Fe.
I ordered 3 x Corona beers, and was charged 90,000 COP.
Is this standard, or was I ripped off? Not the absolute end of the world considering it's $25, but if it's a known rip off club, I'll know not to go there in future. It certainly is very expensive for Colombia if that's a legitimate price!
I don't speak much Spanish at all, first time in Colombia, first time in Sante Fe etc, so it's entirely possible they ripped me off, but thought I'd run it past you guys first.
Thanks.No you were not -- corona beer costs more in clubs-- some may charge 20 mil but 30 mil is typical too.
You should ask prices when you order-- just like in other places waiters may add a bit as they do not always get tipped.
Blue Touch
12-14-20, 16:40
Last night the SGs were out in force-- I really like hitting the SGs more because I find more fresh face college types out there-- much less silicone.
On a sad note a guy I know got really drunk took a girl from Piasa to his hotel-- left his safe open and she walked out with 7 GS-- See photo.Usually I take pic of the girls' cedulas. But these guys won't disappear.
LatinaLover#1
12-14-20, 19:17
No you were not -- corona beer costs more in clubs-- some may charge 20 mil but 30 mil is typical too.
You should ask prices when you order-- just like in other places waiters may add a bit as they do not always get tipped.Much better ordering a Club Colombia Rojo, a good beer for a reasonable price and as stated above, don't be afraid to ask the price. Also remember your in a overpriced environment. I rarely go to places like Lalos, they charge crazy prices for both booze and pussy.
LatinaLover#1
12-14-20, 19:20
Last night the SGs were out in force-- I really like hitting the SGs more because I find more fresh face college types out there-- much less silicone.
On a sad note a guy I know got really drunk took a girl from Piasa to his hotel-- left his safe open and she walked out with 7 GS-- See photo.A violation on so many levels when on a trip. I know a guy in Rio that forces every girl he brings back to his apartment to open here purse and check her pockets before leaving. He's never lost anything.
Mr Enternational
12-14-20, 20:17
On a sad note a guy I know got really drunk took a girl from Piasa to his hotel-- left his safe open and she walked out with 7 GS-- See photo.7000 pesos is not that bad.
Hi all,
I was in Paisa club last night (Saturday night, so maybe prices are higher? First time I've ever been to Santa Fe.
I ordered 3 x Corona beers, and was charged 90,000 COP.
Is this standard, or was I ripped off? Not the absolute end of the world considering it's $25, but if it's a known rip off club, I'll know not to go there in future. It certainly is very expensive for Colombia if that's a legitimate price!
I don't speak much Spanish at all, first time in Colombia, first time in Sante Fe etc, so it's entirely possible they ripped me off, but thought I'd run it past you guys first.
Thanks.Don't order Corona. Aguila and Pilsen are the typical Colombian cheap beers, although I'm sure they're going to cost more in the clubs.
If you want the better Colombian beer, try Club Colombia. The top end of Colombian beers would be BBC (Bogota Beer Company) or Tres Cordilleras. You can probably get either of those for about the same as a Corona.
Last night the SGs were out in force-- I really like hitting the SGs more because I find more fresh face college types out there-- much less silicone.
On a sad note a guy I know got really drunk took a girl from Piasa to his hotel-- left his safe open and she walked out with 7 GS-- See photo.Rule #1 don't get really drunk when picking up hookers. It's all risk and no reward. Either you can't get it up, can't get it off, or you end up sleeping through the whole thing and wake up with all your shit missing.
Can't say I blame the girl. If I found someone dead drunk passed out with the equivalent of 2 years of my income, in cash, sitting beside him, I'd certainly be tempted.
A violation on so many levels when on a trip. I know a guy in Rio that forces every girl he brings back to his apartment to open here purse and check her pockets before leaving. He's never lost anything.Those precautions don't do much good if the guy is passed out drunk. If you really need to get that drunk, buy a bottle, lock the door, and drink alone in your room. If you can't control how much you drink, either don't drink or hire yourself a Slapper.
A Slapper is a big guy who goes with you everywhere. Any time you're about to do something stupid, like drink a few more shots when you're already trashed, he slaps you until you're either making making better decisions, or you're unconscious. Then he drags you home and throws you into bed.
Much better ordering a Club Colombia Rojo, a good beer for a reasonable price and as stated above, don't be afraid to ask the price. Also remember your in a overpriced environment. I rarely go to places like Lalos, they charge crazy prices for both booze and pussy.Alright thanks. So out of interest, what are the 'standard' prices for a beer like Club Colombia at Fiebre / Paisa / Troya etc?
Sorry if this all sounds like basic stuff, but I've only ever been to Paisa, and certainly wouldn't be going back if 30 k is the standard price for all beers, considering you can get laid on Santa Fe for not much more than that!
7000 pesos is not that bad.Yeah, 7 Grand USD is tho.
MarquisdeSade1
12-14-20, 23:27
Yeah, 7 Grand USD is tho.I usually carry pretty large sums when I travel, thankfully I don't drink or get high or I wouldn't LOL.
But for the grace of god.
Alcohol and drugs cause nothing but pain and misery, hopefully this will be a catalyst for some change for him.
How much salary is that for a mall clerk there, 3 yrs?
What is that equivalent to in the USA? 50 k? 75 k?
I'm guessing Mother Teresa would have jacked him.
I'm also guessing you can get killed for 100th of that, mongering drunk carrying fat wads is asking for trouble.
He's lucky he didn't get hurt, there was a story similar in the USA several yrs back.
Guy has hooker in his room, he passes out she calls some dudes over, he wakes up while they are robbing him.
Long story short, he resisted and they stabbed him to death.
Alright thanks. So out of interest, what are the 'standard' prices for a beer like Club Colombia at Fiebre / Paisa / Troya etc?
Sorry if this all sounds like basic stuff, but I've only ever been to Paisa, and certainly wouldn't be going back if 30 k is the standard price for all beers, considering you can get laid on Santa Fe for not much more than that!I think it was no more than 6 mil when I was there a couple of years ago. Next time get your beer directly from the bartender. You are less likely to be ripped off that way. I think the drink prices often are posted somewhere.
I usually carry pretty large sums when I travel, thankfully I don't drink or get high or I wouldn't LOL.
But for the grace of god.
Alcohol and drugs cause nothing but pain and misery, hopefully this will be a catalyst for some change for him.
Yes, I hope he can get help. He is a real nice guy-- Told me that this kinda thing has happened to him before involving getting drugged in Medellin and some other misadventures.
I saw him drink a whole bottle of vodka on Thursday-- That girl and I had a small portion of that-- he was throwing money around-- They love him at Paisas.
I think it was no more than 6 mil when I was there a couple of years ago. Next time get your beer directly from the bartender. You are less likely to be ripped off that way. I think the drink prices often are posted somewhere.I think since pandemic, beers like Poker are 10 mil -- Club Colombia is probably a bit more.
Maybe less at Texas or California? Although cheaper bars may not have Club Colombia.
Mr Enternational
12-15-20, 03:02
Yeah, 7 Grand USD is tho.Oh shit. Somebody should have told him about Charles Schwab. I have not even carried that much cash when I was moving to a different country, nevermind just visiting. I know he cried like a baby.
Mr Enternational
12-15-20, 03:07
I think it was no more than 6 mil when I was there a couple of years ago. Next time get your beer directly from the bartender. You are less likely to be ripped off that way. I think the drink prices often are posted somewhere.Yeah that was a couple of years ago though. This is Covid time. Last week I was about to get 2 Cokes in Troya until I asked dude how much and he said 20K. I told him to put that shit back. I could have been fucking for that much money.
LatinaLover#1
12-15-20, 04:34
Alright thanks. So out of interest, what are the 'standard' prices for a beer like Club Colombia at Fiebre / Paisa / Troya etc?
Sorry if this all sounds like basic stuff, but I've only ever been to Paisa, and certainly wouldn't be going back if 30 k is the standard price for all beers, considering you can get laid on Santa Fe for not much more than that!No need for sorry. Everybody have a first time for everything and that's the best part about this site, to pick up tips from experienced members. Some guys on here will bust your balls for asking simple questions that can be found on the site but just blow it off. My first time mongering was back in the 90's. Spent most of my time in Costa Rica, then Lima and finally my favorite for years, Rio. Once Help closed about 10,11 years ago it was never the same, so I started traveling to Colombia and believe it or not my first trip to SF was with Woodman, a big help for info back then. Most guys will go out of their way to help you. Be safe, watch out for Devils' breath, or scopolamine and never trust anyone. Assume they will rip you off if given the opportunity. I met lots of wonderful Colombians in my travels but it's best if you assume they can't be trusted.
No need for sorry. Everybody have a first time for everything and that's the best part about this site, to pick up tips from experienced members. Some guys on here will bust your balls for asking simple questions that can be found on the site but just blow it off. My first time mongering was back in the 90's. Spent most of my time in Costa Rica, then Lima and finally my favorite for years, Rio. Once Help closed about 10,11 years ago it was never the same, so I started traveling to Colombia and believe it or not my first trip to SF was with Woodman, a big help for info back then. Most guys will go out of their way to help you. Be safe, watch out for Devils' breath, or scopolamine and never trust anyone. Assume they will rip you off if given the opportunity. I met lots of wonderful Colombians in my travels but it's best if you assume they can't be trusted.Cheers. I was so new, believe it or not I couldn't understand how people got into those clubs for about an hour last night. I was on the street parallel to the actual entrance points, and there was a building saying 'Paisa Club' on it (next to a place called 'La Logia') but it looked fully closed, no lights on at all.
It was an embarrassing 1 hour standing around before I realized I needed to go to the other street to be let in.
Still, we live and learn!
Omicron Gamma
12-15-20, 10:06
Alright thanks. So out of interest, what are the 'standard' prices for a beer like Club Colombia at Fiebre / Paisa / Troya etc?
Sorry if this all sounds like basic stuff, but I've only ever been to Paisa, and certainly wouldn't be going back if 30 k is the standard price for all beers, considering you can get laid on Santa Fe for not much more than that!See one of Woodman09 previous posts where the half bottle of Absolute runs 100 k in Paisas. Maybe better value over the course of the night especially if the 5 - 10 k local beers have had the prices jacked up. When I wasn't here in March Heineken / Smirnoff Ice (Don't judge me)/ a drink for a girl were 20 - 25 k but I normally tipped the waiter 20 k to cut out the shenanigans. If you go nightly like me a tip so goes a long way to cut out the nonsense.
I can imagine having been closed for 9 months that they would jack up the prices which is why I'm so eager to find out what the girls are charging now.
Last trip I had 2 prepagos over on my last night and one swiped a Moulton Brown travel mini without me realizing. Another just flat out asked for my phone, whiskey, etc. Because it was her "birthday". You can never be too careful as all these girls see is a wallet to empty. This goes double if you're like me and prefer sessions in your hotel over Santa Fe.
OG.
Yeah, 7 Grand USD is tho.Anyone there saw a hooker doing cartwheels and punching the air? That was the thief.
MarquisdeSade1
12-15-20, 19:10
Last night the SGs were out in force-- I really like hitting the SGs more because I find more fresh face college types out there-- much less silicone.
On a sad note a guy I know got really drunk took a girl from Piasa to his hotel-- left his safe open and she walked out with 7 GS-- See photo.But look at that photo, was that taken the same night? Looks like she was planning her heist whilst watching him get wasted?
Attn all mongers, be on the look out for copycats, word of this putas "lottery win" will hit all the streets of Colombia.
I try not to write too much detail on the forum about sensitive issues like this, you never know how many mongers show their favorite putas what other mongers write.
And if they don't hear about it on the street and I'm sure they will, then they will read about it here.
You have been warned!
El Castillo used to be the best brothel of Santa Fe. It closed 3 years ago, the owner got legal problems. Unbelieveable, it will open again tomorrow...as an art museum! :
https://idartes.gov.co/es/noticias/comienza-castillo-artes-en-barrio-santa-fe
El Castillo used to be the best brothel of Santa Fe. It closed 3 years ago, the owner got legal problems. Unbelieveable, it will open again tomorrow...as an art museum! :
https://idartes.gov.co/es/noticias/comienza-castillo-artes-en-barrio-santa-feIsn't that the Help model — close and reopen as a museum?
LatinaLover#1
12-16-20, 01:02
Cheers. I was so new, believe it or not I couldn't understand how people got into those clubs for about an hour last night. I was on the street parallel to the actual entrance points, and there was a building saying 'Paisa Club' on it (next to a place called 'La Logia') but it looked fully closed, no lights on at all.
It was an embarrassing 1 hour standing around before I realized I needed to go to the other street to be let in.
Still, we live and learn!That's what's important. Also, going on a trip alone, to a place for the first time takes balls. You lose too much time getting to know the lay of the land, much better hitting the ground running. I'll be back in Bogota the middle of January, if your around I'll introduce you to a few chippers (non-pros) I know. You'll never look at Bogota the same again. Stay safe.
That's what's important. Also, going on a trip alone, to a place for the first time takes balls. You lose too much time getting to know the lay of the land, much better hitting the ground running. I'll be back in Bogota the middle of January, if your around I'll introduce you to a few chippers (non-pros) I know. You'll never look at Bogota the same again. Stay safe.Yeah I'll be here in January (and even beyond that). Back in November I saw the writing on the wall with Europe, and realised it was probably going to be one terrible winter with lockdowns etc, so I took a chance and came to Colombia.
There's been ups and downs so far. I've met some great people (mainly outside the hooker areas, admittedly), but getting to know a new place is full of frustrations at first as well. Thankfully I've got as long here as I want. My return flight is booked in April, but because of the virus you can change it once for any reason, so if it's still better here than Europe, I'll be staying the maximum 6 months in the year that I'm allowed to.
MarquisdeSade1
12-16-20, 02:59
Yes, I hope he can get help. He is a real nice guy-- Told me that this kinda thing has happened to him before involving getting drugged in Medellin and some other misadventures.
I saw him drink a whole bottle of vodka on Thursday-- That girl and I had a small portion of that-- he was throwing money around-- They love him at Paisas.That's a shame, that said, is this poetic justice for the "baller" types out there? That go to the underworld in the 3rd world throwing you petty American money around trying to impress the putas.
They will show you how much they are impressed and respect you!
I doubt there are any billionaires on the forum, but you want to act like one?
Can we get an Encore?
Gofferring has a great quote, I will paraphrase it, throwing money around in the 3rd world doesn't buy you respect or admiration.
It puts a bullseye on your forehead!
Did the tour with Woodman last night in Santa Fe. Highly recommendable as the guy knows the area, all the spots and in a few hours was able to see most of SantaFe in an organized and safe way. Thanks Woodman!
Blue Touch
12-16-20, 14:17
Yeah I'll be here in January (and even beyond that). Back in November I saw the writing on the wall with Europe, and realised it was probably going to be one terrible winter with lockdowns etc, so I took a chance and came to Colombia.
There's been ups and downs so far. I've met some great people (mainly outside the hooker areas, admittedly), but getting to know a new place is full of frustrations at first as well. Thankfully I've got as long here as I want. My return flight is booked in April, but because of the virus you can change it once for any reason, so if it's still better here than Europe, I'll be staying the maximum 6 months in the year that I'm allowed to.It is generally difficult to establish and keep a relationship with persons in different economic / income class. Plus, the culture, education, business customs, infrastructure, etc in Latin America are different. I would be very realistic about personal relationships in Latin America.
Reggie1980
12-16-20, 14:29
That's what's important. Also, going on a trip alone, to a place for the first time takes balls. You lose too much time getting to know the lay of the land, much better hitting the ground running. I'll be back in Bogota the middle of January, if your around I'll introduce you to a few chippers (non-pros) I know. You'll never look at Bogota the same again. Stay safe.Kudos to Thomas for hitting the streets alone. I took my first international mongering trip this past February to Thailand (solo). Like you said, takes a couple of days to learn the lay of the land. Hope to hit Colombia next month. Thankful to everyone sharing advice / tips / reports.
Omicron Gamma
12-16-20, 15:02
Yeah I'll be here in January (and even beyond that). Back in November I saw the writing on the wall with Europe, and realised it was probably going to be one terrible winter with lockdowns etc, so I took a chance and came to Colombia.
There's been ups and downs so far. I've met some great people (mainly outside the hooker areas, admittedly), but getting to know a new place is full of frustrations at first as well. Thankfully I've got as long here as I want. My return flight is booked in April, but because of the virus you can change it once for any reason, so if it's still better here than Europe, I'll be staying the maximum 6 months in the year that I'm allowed to.Definitely try to get in touch with Woodman09 if you can. He helped my group greatly in March, we still got too drunk at times and over-spent but he got us baselined for the most part. I'll be there from Feb 24th so if possible I'd be happy to patrol.
Can you give any info on what the girls are charging in the clubs and for takeout? There has been a discussion on this in the Rio forum and it was a shock how much less the Senior Guys were paying compared to us newbies.
LatinaLover#1
12-16-20, 17:07
Definitely try to get in touch with Woodman09 if you can. He helped my group greatly in March, we still got too drunk at times and over-spent but he got us baselined for the most part. I'll be there from Feb 24th so if possible I'd be happy to patrol.
Can you give any info on what the girls are charging in the clubs and for takeout? There has been a discussion on this in the Rio forum and it was a shock how much less the Senior Guys were paying compared to us newbies.Because I haven't been there in forever. I felt Troya was better than the others I went to, including, Piscina, Castillo even went to Pussyhouse, poor quality and not in a good area. Really sketchy after 11 or so. The clubs in the north seem a lot safer with better girls but more expensive. None of this is earth shacking news for any of you, I'm sure. My experience in SF was around 40,000 for 20 0 r thirty minutes all the way up to an asking price of 300,000 in Laylos. Just stupid gringo prices in my opinion. I did mange to pull a very hot girl out of Laylos, who, after paying the house fine, went back to my apartment in El Baton, pretty far up north but she was great, stayed with me with no mention of time and got me off a few times. No condom. One thing is relevant, The girls you meet, make your trip! That was true 25 years ago and remains true today. The weather can suck, the food can suck but if you hook up with a couple of the right women you trip will leave you with a desire tp get back as soon as possible. I've been lucky to keep a stable of sweet, sexy, gorgeous women to keep up with over the years. My advice is to use the 5 ft. Rule. Use your game and say Hello, to every pretty girl in your radius. You will be surprised how welcoming the women of Bogotá can be to a relationship with you if you are respectful, clean, a little Spanish. Invite them to coffee or a glass of wine to get to know each other. Let the sex take care of itself after a little conversation. When negotiating it's about help for her and her kids or family and not how to speak with a Prepago about time and price. Thomas is in the perfect place to do this because he has the time in Bogota to cultivate some 'special' friends. Of course, if your only there for a few days, the Prepago is probably your best bet.
Blue Touch
12-16-20, 17:10
There will always be guys like him, and most of the time they will be the USA Citizens.
It is futile to educate them or alter their behavior.
That's a shame, that said, is this poetic justice for the "baller" types out there? That go to the underworld in the 3rd world throwing you petty American money around trying to impress the putas.
They will show you how much they are impressed and respect you!
I doubt there are any billionaires on the forum, but you want to act like one?
Can we get an Encore?
Gofferring has a great quote, I will paraphrase it, throwing money around in the 3rd world doesn't buy you respect or admiration.
It puts a bullseye on your forehead!
LatinaLover#1
12-16-20, 17:13
Yeah I'll be here in January (and even beyond that). Back in November I saw the writing on the wall with Europe, and realised it was probably going to be one terrible winter with lockdowns etc, so I took a chance and came to Colombia.
There's been ups and downs so far. I've met some great people (mainly outside the hooker areas, admittedly), but getting to know a new place is full of frustrations at first as well. Thankfully I've got as long here as I want. My return flight is booked in April, but because of the virus you can change it once for any reason, so if it's still better here than Europe, I'll be staying the maximum 6 months in the year that I'm allowed to.I tried to send a private message to you but your not able to get messages. Sign up as a member and I can text you some info. Being there until next year with come in handy for you.
Did the tour with Woodman last night in Santa Fe. Highly recommendable as the guy knows the area, all the spots and in a few hours was able to see most of SantaFe in an organized and safe way. Thanks Woodman!Was great showing you around-- I just want to say that there are no guarantees -- I feel Santa Fe is relatively safe-- if you take proper precautions.
But-Shit Happens-- One reason it is safe is the police presence and the Venezuelans (majority of people in SF) face deportation for criminal activity.
Omicron Gamma
12-16-20, 21:26
I tried to send a private message to you but your not able to get messages. Sign up as a member and I can text you some info. Being there until next year with come in handy for you.Hey man,
I wouldn't mind some of this info myself. I tried to PM you but it says your inbox is full. Can you drop me a line when you get a chance?
Thanks.
OG.
Hey guys, just got to Bogota yesterday, staying in the Chapinero area. I was in Medellin for the past 2 months, I'll write a report once I get back to the states because I'm sure I'll have nothing but time on my hands over there. Anyways I'm only in Bogota for a week so might just stick to mileroticos, Santa Fe, and the strip clubs. I met some great guys on here while I was in Medellin and I hope to keep it up here in Bogota.
So I literally just got back from a mileroticos session this afternoon as I type this out. Found a listing for twins here and I couldn't resist the siren song. 160 k for half hour, 300 k for the hour, and 500 k for 2 hours. Oral natural extra 80 k and anal an extra 50 k. I went to their apartment, not the worst place I've seen but it reminded me why I prefer domicilios, at least this place was relatively clean, had hot water, and was a relatively big room. Plus it was close enough that it wasn't too much of a hassle. It was located in the Polo Club neighborhood. Anyways for sure they were identical twins, early 20's, tiny girls, maybe 5'2" and 90 lbs soaking wet each. Both had braces on the top row of teeth only. Smooth skin, no baby damage, faces were probably only about a 6 or maybe 7. Be tits at most, one twin had slightly larger and firmer tits than the other, decent enough asses but honestly I just prefer thicker girls at this stage in my life. One twin had a better BJ, and the other twin was the only one who provides anal. Anyways service was nothing to write home about. Threesomes, especially when they're blood-related, are never as fun as they seem. Unless the girls are bi or dating each other, it's more of a distraction than anything. Anyways I would not recommend the extra for anal or BJ, their BJ's are less than stellar / unenthusiastic and the other twin was not an anal expert at all. I would definitely not repeat, maybe a solo with the hotter twin but there's plenty of other milerotico girls I'd rather try first. If you want to check them out just search for geminas in mileroticos. They're the only ones and their pictures are accurate. They look a little better in person to be fair but not by much.
Anyways if any guys currently in town need a wingman or want to ever hit up Sante Fe, a strip club, or just grab a beer feel free to PM me. I like to drink and party to a reasonable extent, especially if there's some linda chicas involved. Cheers everyone.
LatinaLover#1
12-17-20, 03:52
Hey man,
I wouldn't mind some of this info myself. I tried to PM you but it says your inbox is full. Can you drop me a line when you get a chance?
Thanks.
OG.When will you be in Bogota?
Omicron Gamma
12-17-20, 14:29
When will you be in Bogota?Feb 24 - March 3rd.
Mainly Santa Fe, but be good to do one of the Zona Rosa clubs on the high end maybe once.
Vision2030
12-18-20, 12:17
Hey Woodman,
I'm trying to meet you for a tour. Got a membership but don't know how to PM. Can you reach out? Thanks.
That's a shame, that said, is this poetic justice for the "baller" types out there? That go to the underworld in the 3rd world throwing you petty American money around trying to impress the putas.
They will show you how much they are impressed and respect you!
I doubt there are any billionaires on the forum, but you want to act like one?
Can we get an Encore?
Gofferring has a great quote, I will paraphrase it, throwing money around in the 3rd world doesn't buy you respect or admiration.
It puts a bullseye on your forehead!An easy way to recognize that a person is not rich is that he throws money around.
I'm hitting up Cava Del Puro in ZonaRosa around 6 pm for a cigar, then drinks and then heading to Cassanova in ZonaT if anyone is in town tonight and wants to do a little higher-end chica hunting.
An easy way to recognize that a person is not rich is that he throws money around.It's all about attention. And in a country like Colombia that's not something you want to attract.
I'm sure guys like Floyd Mayweather, James Harden, and endless rappers and ball players have real money.
But if they want to ball and go crazy in a strip club in Colombia it'll be a mistake for sure.
If any of you guys have Amazon Prime I recommend looking at a show called No Go Zones. It is a documentary series about rough neighborhoods throughout the world. Last night I watched an episode on the Santa Fe area of Bogota. It goes into La Piscina and shows what a lot of people describe on this thread. I haven't been to Bogota so it was really interesting to see.
If you are just at home on lockdown and want to see first hand what Santa Fe is about. Highly Recommended.
It's all about attention. And in a country like Colombia that's not something you want to attract.
I'm sure guys like Floyd Mayweather, James Harden, and endless rappers and ball players have real money.
But if they want to ball and go crazy in a strip club in Colombia it'll be a mistake for sure.In all fairness, they'd have bodyguards -- likely a whole team of bodyguards.
But yes, for the vast majority of us, you don't want to be noticed throwing around a lot of money in Colombia and many other countries where we pursue our hobby. People notice you and the girls all have friends who would love to lighten your wallet or bank account.
MarquisdeSade1
12-18-20, 23:58
If any of you guys have Amazon Prime I recommend looking at a show called No Go Zones. It is a documentary series about rough neighborhoods throughout the world. Last night I watched an episode on the Santa Fe area of Bogota. It goes into La Piscina and shows what a lot of people describe on this thread. I haven't been to Bogota so it was really interesting to see.
If you are just at home on lockdown and want to see first hand what Santa Fe is about. Highly Recommended.https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-12-18/Outlook-bleak-as-jobless-rate-surges-in-Latin-America-Wk1rTlpFE4/index.html
Hey Woodman,
I'm trying to meet you for a tour. Got a membership but don't know how to PM. Can you reach out? Thanks.Click on his name on post #8924 and you will see the PM option.
ArmnHammer69
12-19-20, 15:54
Last night was awesome in Santa Fe. Did the club tour atonis, paisas, fiebre, troya etc. Atonis was ok younger skinnier girls. Paisas seems to have gone down hill it was not like I remember it not busy and girls were not that great. Troya was good for the early evening about 4 girls I wanted to bang. Fiebre was the best by far banged 3 chicas last night and had a great time. Thinking about round two or trying to fly to la Isla in Medellin.
Pussycat123
12-19-20, 21:20
I heard there is a curfew in Bogota. Can anyone on the ground confirm?
ArmnHammer69
12-20-20, 09:54
I heard there is a curfew in Bogota. Can anyone on the ground confirm?Hey brother,
Just getting home from Fiebre in Santa Fe now 4 am. Strip clubs are still open on sly they wait until cops pass and let you in.
I met up with YYZ and MSanchez last night for some higher end chica hunting. I have to say I have never been more dissapointed in a set of girls. I have to agree with what has been said prior on the board about the higher end places. The girls are not particularly better looking in the north, they just dress nicer and have more makeup.
I met up with the guys at Olimpo, I coultn't even find the place at first as there is no signage outside. What appeared to be some random guy sweeping the street approached me and said "club? Um sure. And he went and unlocked the door for me to enter. As I was walking in, a couple girls were walking out. I think I maybe just expected too much. I was taken back at how not attractive the girls come out were. The club is a dimly lit maybe 2000 sqft area, with couch seats scattered about. There were about 10 to 12 girls just sitting around. My first time meeting YYZ, but he had been telling me about all the hot girls up north, so I was excited to try. He had also told me about all the high prices. So sure. If they're are really that hot, then fair is fair. I think if you pay 300 k an hour for a 9 you are getting a good deal. None of these girls I saw were 9's. If I gave any of them a 7, it wold be a generous 7 with a couple of asterix denoting that under better lighting the rating would drop to a 6. Most of the girls skewed high in age too, which is not my thing. I like them young and supple, generally I stick to girls under 25.
Anyways YYZ had a girl with him from the night before, so he was content and not looking for anything. YYZ asked his girl to call around and see where all the girls were at. They got a taxi arranged for us to go to another club up north saying that there would be 75 girls there. So allowing for some exageration we thought there might be 40. I hadn't made the transportation arrangement so I was just following everyone else. There was a taxi waiting for us when we got outside. YYZ, his girl, MSanchez and I all got into the taxi and 2 other people who I didn't know also got in. I only later realized that these 2 other people worked for the club we were headed to.
As we approached our destination, I realized that were at Lido. I had been here before, but was willing to give it another shot. When I had been there before it might have been too early in the night. Lido is a brightly lit club with a stage in the center and seating all around. There were maybe 3 other guys in the club when we arrived and about 20 to 25 girls I would say. Generally the girls here were better looking than Olimpo, but were also generally older. I would say the majority were later 20's or older. I was still not impressed. If we're paying 200 usd for a bottle, I really would have expected better looking girls. The 2 additional passengers in the taxi worked at the club and were trying to introduce me to a girl. Out of 25 girls, I would say there were two 8's, three 7's and twenty 6 or belows. One of the 8's came down and sat with MSanchez for a while. Nice bubbly personality, really quite attractive, the most attractive in the place for sure. With smooth brown caramel skin that makes you just want to rub you cheek against her all night long. The only thing that kept her from possibly being a 9 would be her slight acne issue that she compensated for with extra makeup. She sat with MSanchez for 25 minutes while I kept looking around for something worth talking to. After she realized that no one in our group was going to pay her asking price of 1,200,000 to take her home, she left abruptly. That's right. 1,200,000.
Sometime during our visit, once girl with saggy boobs, no ass, and acne issues danced on stage for a song. She dissapeared somewhere before popping up in front of me trying to give me a lap dance that I definitely did not want. After 5 seconds of attempted grinding she pointed to her garter which already had a 10 k bill in it, motioning for me to give her a tip. I gave her an incredulous look in response and said no gracias. That was the saddest dance from one of the ugliest girls I've seen in a long while. Granted, I will admit I've been spoiled for a while being in Colombia for the last 2 months.
As we were about to leave, I noticed the other possible 8, a blond girl with a nice bulbous ass. MSanchez motioned her over and talked to her for a bit. No talk of pricing, but he got her number before our uber arrived.
I believe on average the girls of Santa Fe are are actually better loooking than the girls I saw this night. There are a some advantages that I saw to hunting up north vs Santa Fe. The general atmosphere is a bit more chill. Theres less people, and it seemed like if you just wanted to chat with the girl for a while, the girls are willing to sit with you. In contrast, Santa Fe is kinda grimy and crowded and the girls will leave you if you don't take them for a sessions of buy a dance. They gots to make their money.
After Lido, YYZ and his girl went their separate way, MSanchez and I headed to Santa Fe. More on that later, I'm tired of writing.
I met up with YYZ and MSanchez last night for some higher end chica hunting. I have to say I have never been more dissapointed in a set of girls. I have to agree with what has been said prior on the board about the higher end places. The girls are not particularly better looking in the north, they just dress nicer and have more makeup.
I met up with the guys at Olimpo, I coultn't even find the place at first as there is no signage outside. What appeared to be some random guy sweeping the street approached me and said "club? Um sure. And he went and unlocked the door for me to enter. As I was walking in, a couple girls were walking out. I think I maybe just expected too much. I was taken back at how not attractive the girls come out were. The club is a dimly lit maybe 2000 sqft area, with couch seats scattered about. There were about 10 to 12 girls just sitting around. My first time meeting YYZ, but he had been telling me about all the hot girls up north, so I was excited to try. He had also told me about all the high prices. So sure. If they're are really that hot, then fair is fair. I think if you pay 300 k an hour for a 9 you are getting a good deal. None of these girls I saw were 9's. If I gave any of them a 7, it wold be a generous 7 with a couple of asterix denoting that under better lighting the rating would drop to a 6. Most of the girls skewed high in age too, which is not my thing. I like them young and supple, generally I stick to girls under 25.
Anyways YYZ had a girl with him from the night before, so he was content and not looking for anything. YYZ asked his girl to call around and see where all the girls were at. They got a taxi arranged for us to go to another club up north saying that there would be 75 girls there. So allowing for some exageration we thought there might be 40. I hadn't made the transportation arrangement so I was just following everyone else. There was a taxi waiting for us when we got outside. YYZ, his girl, MSanchez and I all got into the taxi and 2 other people who I didn't know also got in. I only later realized that these 2 other people worked for the club we were headed to.
As we approached our destination, I realized that were at Lido. I had been here before, but was willing to give it another shot. When I had been there before it might have been too early in the night. Lido is a brightly lit club with a stage in the center and seating all around. There were maybe 3 other guys in the club when we arrived and about 20 to 25 girls I would say. Generally the girls here were better looking than Olimpo, but were also generally older. I would say the majority were later 20's or older. I was still not impressed. If we're paying 200 usd for a bottle, I really would have expected better looking girls. The 2 additional passengers in the taxi worked at the club and were trying to introduce me to a girl. Out of 25 girls, I would say there were two 8's, three 7's and twenty 6 or belows. One of the 8's came down and sat with MSanchez for a while. Nice bubbly personality, really quite attractive, the most attractive in the place for sure. With smooth brown caramel skin that makes you just want to rub you cheek against her all night long. The only thing that kept her from possibly being a 9 would be her slight acne issue that she compensated for with extra makeup. She sat with MSanchez for 25 minutes while I kept looking around for something worth talking to. After she realized that no one in our group was going to pay her asking price of 1,200,000 to take her home, she left abruptly. That's right. 1,200,000.
Sometime during our visit, once girl with saggy boobs, no ass, and acne issues danced on stage for a song. She dissapeared somewhere before popping up in front of me trying to give me a lap dance that I definitely did not want. After 5 seconds of attempted grinding she pointed to her garter which already had a 10 k bill in it, motioning for me to give her a tip. I gave her an incredulous look in response and said no gracias. That was the saddest dance from one of the ugliest girls I've seen in a long while. Granted, I will admit I've been spoiled for a while being in Colombia for the last 2 months.
As we were about to leave, I noticed the other possible 8, a blond girl with a nice bulbous ass. MSanchez motioned her over and talked to her for a bit. No talk of pricing, but he got her number before our uber arrived.
I believe on average the girls of Santa Fe are are actually better loooking than the girls I saw this night. There are a some advantages that I saw to hunting up north vs Santa Fe. The general atmosphere is a bit more chill. Theres less people, and it seemed like if you just wanted to chat with the girl for a while, the girls are willing to sit with you. In contrast, Santa Fe is kinda grimy and crowded and the girls will leave you if you don't take them for a sessions of buy a dance. They gots to make their money.
After Lido, YYZ and his girl went their separate way, MSanchez and I headed to Santa Fe. More on that later, I'm tired of writing.I'm glad to see this report.
Last time I went to Lidos and another high end club I forget the name it was completely different.
The closest thing to a 10 I ever saw was at lidos.
I'm hearing a similar trend in medellin from Centro to Lleras.
I don't doubt this is not a coincidence.
I have to say I have never been more disappointed in a set of girls. I have to agree with what has been said prior on the board about the higher end places. The girls are not particularly better looking in the north, they just dress nicer and have more makeup.
After she realized that no one in our group was going to pay her asking price of 1,200,000 to take her home, she left abruptly. That's right. 1,200,000.
I believe on average the girls of Santa Fe are are actually better looking than the girls I saw this night.I saw that post by YYZ about higher end girls, and it made me laugh. This guy is really trying to "play the role". To quote Apollo from Rocky 4, "Some folks got to learn the hard way. " Higher end just means your ass is paying more, and that's it. Sorry you had a disappointing time, but glad you reiterated this point.
I believe on average the girls of Santa Fe are are actually better loooking than the girls I saw this night. There are a some advantages that I saw to hunting up north vs Santa Fe. The general atmosphere is a bit more chill. Theres less people, and it seemed like if you just wanted to chat with the girl for a while, the girls are willing to sit with you. In contrast, Santa Fe is kinda grimy and crowded and the girls will leave you if you don't take them for a sessions of buy a dance. They gots to make their money..As I have said in prior posts Santa Fe has many hot girls and many are the same girls that work up North.
I saw that post by YYZ about higher end girls, and it made me laugh. This guy is really trying to "play the role". To quote Apollo from Rocky 4, "Some folks got to learn the hard way. " Higher end just means your ass is paying more, and that's it. Sorry you had a disappointing time, but glad you reiterated this point.The clubs that night were pretty low talent, but MSanchez can attest to the quality the night before. Perhaps you guys are right, I'm paying more, but 80% of the girls I'm with are lower mileage and I end up going on with afterwards for free. To each their own I suppose.
YYZ and his girl went their separate way, MSanchez and I headed to Santa Fe. More on that later, I'm tired of writing.Sorry about the Irish exit there. She dropped the "she can't explain it, but has developed feelings and can't take my money tonight" card. I wanted to put that to rest. Needless to say, we left quick and went back for great sex. True to her word, she didn't want my money even when I offered her some for the night. She just wanted to say thanks for the good time and went home to rest before school. It might be a long game of trying to get money in the future, but after the number of girls I have been with I can see that from a mile away, and don't think that is it.
ArmnHammer69
12-21-20, 19:27
Was in Santa Fe last night around 8:30 pm went to troya about 15 girls and 15 guys one girl had a nicely done booty. Paisas was closed. Atonis and Venus was packed but only one decent looking 18 year old type in each of them. Fiebre my go to was not that busy maybe 25 girls in the 6-7 range. By around 10 pm the police started coming around and you had to play the game of rushing into the club doors when they turn their back. LOL today I went and got some Botox on my forehead wrinkles only $360 k. Tried going to andino to kill the day away but was turned away for not having a Colombian cedula.
LatinaLover#1
12-21-20, 22:39
As I have said in prior posts Santa Fe has many hot girls and many are the same girls that work up North.Vila Mimosa is a low price, red light district in Rio. Some of the women are good looking, some not so much jajaj But it was not uncommon to see the same girls working VM in the day and working Help at night, for a much higher price. Sometimes we equate higher price girls as better or prettier but usually far from the truth.
I met up with YYZ and MSanchez last night for some higher end chica hunting. I have to say I have never been more dissapointed in a set of girls. I have to agree with what has been said prior on the board about the higher end places. The girls are not particularly better looking in the north, they just dress nicer and have more makeup.
I met up with the guys at Olimpo, I coultn't even find the place at first as there is no signage outside. What appeared to be some random guy sweeping the street approached me and said "club? Um sure. And he went and unlocked the door for me to enter. As I was walking in, a couple girls were walking out. I think I maybe just expected too much. I was taken back at how not attractive the girls come out were. The club is a dimly lit maybe 2000 sqft area, with couch seats scattered about. There were about 10 to 12 girls just sitting around. My first time meeting YYZ, but he had been telling me about all the hot girls up north, so I was excited to try. He had also told me about all the high prices. So sure. If they're are really that hot, then fair is fair. I think if you pay 300 k an hour for a 9 you are getting a good deal. None of these girls I saw were 9's. If I gave any of them a 7, it wold be a generous 7 with a couple of asterix denoting that under better lighting the rating would drop to a 6. Most of the girls skewed high in age too, which is not my thing. I like them young and supple, generally I stick to girls under 25.
Anyways YYZ had a girl with him from the night before, so he was content and not looking for anything. YYZ asked his girl to call around and see where all the girls were at. They got a taxi arranged for us to go to another club up north saying that there would be 75 girls there. So allowing for some exageration we thought there might be 40. I hadn't made the transportation arrangement so I was just following everyone else. There was a taxi waiting for us when we got outside. YYZ, his girl, MSanchez and I all got into the taxi and 2 other people who I didn't know also got in. I only later realized that these 2 other people worked for the club we were headed to.
As we approached our destination, I realized that were at Lido. I had been here before, but was willing to give it another shot. When I had been there before it might have been too early in the night. Lido is a brightly lit club with a stage in the center and seating all around. There were maybe 3 other guys in the club when we arrived and about 20 to 25 girls I would say. Generally the girls here were better looking than Olimpo, but were also generally older. I would say the majority were later 20's or older. I was still not impressed. If we're paying 200 usd for a bottle, I really would have expected better looking girls. The 2 additional passengers in the taxi worked at the club and were trying to introduce me to a girl. Out of 25 girls, I would say there were two 8's, three 7's and twenty 6 or belows. One of the 8's came down and sat with MSanchez for a while. Nice bubbly personality, really quite attractive, the most attractive in the place for sure. With smooth brown caramel skin that makes you just want to rub you cheek against her all night long. The only thing that kept her from possibly being a 9 would be her slight acne issue that she compensated for with extra makeup. She sat with MSanchez for 25 minutes while I kept looking around for something worth talking to. After she realized that no one in our group was going to pay her asking price of 1,200,000 to take her home, she left abruptly. That's right. 1,200,000.
Sometime during our visit, once girl with saggy boobs, no ass, and acne issues danced on stage for a song. She dissapeared somewhere before popping up in front of me trying to give me a lap dance that I definitely did not want. After 5 seconds of attempted grinding she pointed to her garter which already had a 10 k bill in it, motioning for me to give her a tip. I gave her an incredulous look in response and said no gracias. That was the saddest dance from one of the ugliest girls I've seen in a long while. Granted, I will admit I've been spoiled for a while being in Colombia for the last 2 months.
As we were about to leave, I noticed the other possible 8, a blond girl with a nice bulbous ass. MSanchez motioned her over and talked to her for a bit. No talk of pricing, but he got her number before our uber arrived.
I believe on average the girls of Santa Fe are are actually better loooking than the girls I saw this night. There are a some advantages that I saw to hunting up north vs Santa Fe. The general atmosphere is a bit more chill. Theres less people, and it seemed like if you just wanted to chat with the girl for a while, the girls are willing to sit with you. In contrast, Santa Fe is kinda grimy and crowded and the girls will leave you if you don't take them for a sessions of buy a dance. They gots to make their money.
After Lido, YYZ and his girl went their separate way, MSanchez and I headed to Santa Fe. More on that later, I'm tired of writing.Looking forward for the SF report.
MarquisdeSade1
12-22-20, 01:46
Was in Santa Fe last night around 8:30 pm went to troya about 15 girls and 15 guys one girl had a nicely done booty. Paisas was closed. Atonis and Venus was packed but only one decent looking 18 year old type in each of them. Fiebre my go to was not that busy maybe 25 girls in the 6-7 range. By around 10 pm the police started coming around and you had to play the game of rushing into the club doors when they turn their back. LOL today I went and got some Botox on my forehead wrinkles only $360 k. Tried going to andino to kill the day away but was turned away for not having a Colombian cedula.Andino mall?
Because of the 2017 terrorist attack?
DonCarlos1234
12-22-20, 04:17
I'm glad to see this report.
Last time I went to Lidos and another high end club I forget the name it was completely different.
The closest thing to a 10 I ever saw was at lidos.
I'm hearing a similar trend in medellin from Centro to Lleras.
I don't doubt this is not a coincidence.Back in Bogota, leaving tomorrow. I miss HKTJ and their CLEAN rooms. Virus? I was told if you stay in an enclosed space for 2 hours where someone has the virus, you will get it. Passing by, nada.
I had to see Medellin. I like everything about it except the cabbies and too much walking uphill. I am not just a monger. Tours in Medellin were amazing. But Bogota is easier to get around. I think the holidays slowed everything down. Still I met 4,. 10's in 30 days and a lot of others. I wish the casas in Bogota were easier to find. WTF? I'll be back. Probably in 3 months. I will say this. Seeking in Medellin is a waste of time, mostly pro's there. Girls are going on-line, trolling. Cost you 300 k + for a 9. Bogota is better for SA. It takes a lot of time however. La Isla spoiled me. WOW More details later.
Sorry about the Irish exit there. She dropped the "she can't explain it, but has developed feelings and can't take my money tonight" card. I wanted to put that to rest. Needless to say, we left quick and went back for great sex. True to her word, she didn't want my money even when I offered her some for the night. She just wanted to say thanks for the good time and went home to rest before school. It might be a long game of trying to get money in the future, but after the number of girls I have been with I can see that from a mile away, and don't think that is it.No worries about the Irish exit. I thought you just wanted to get home to do some banging LOL. Can't blame you for that. We definitely have different mongering styles, but, glad to have met you.
El Mechanico
12-22-20, 14:23
OK guys, I know I am going to get hammered for this but I have RTFF and I think I know what this is all about but would like some feedback from those in the know or Boots on the Ground. I just got an email from the embassy in Bogot saying that the pico why Cedula will go back into effect through Christmas and into the new year. My questions are how does this affect tourists? How will this affect me if I want to take a taxi to an MP or a hotel or whatever? Will it affect walking around in Santa Fe, etc. Etc. Any help will be appreciated. Feel free to dog cuss me about RTFF if you must, but I just got the email yesterday. And just like the Covid restrictions they seem to change on a daily basis.
El Mechanico.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/most-colombians-see-going-hungry-111346258.html
Help them out gentlemen.
Mr Enternational
12-22-20, 15:47
I just got an email from the embassy in Bogot saying that the pico why Cedula will go back into effect through Christmas and into the new year. My questions are how does this affect tourists? How will this affect me if I want to take a taxi to an MP or a hotel or whatever? .MP? Santa Fe? LOL. You funny. It means you can't do shit unless it is your day. No grocery store, no bank, no restaurant. Only pharmacy, doctor, and funeral. This will be until January 15th.
Solo quedarn exceptuados de esta nueva medida los centros de salud, las farmacias y los servicios funerarios.
https://www.portafolio.co/economia/ARTICULO-MOVILES-AMP-547705.html
El Mechanico
12-22-20, 16:01
MP? Santa Fe? LOL. You funny. It means you can't do shit unless it is your day. No grocery store, no bank, no restaurant, no outside. Only pharmacy, doctor, and funeral. This will be until January 15th.
Solo quedarn exceptuados de esta nueva medida los centros de salud, las farmacias y los servicios funerarios.
https://www.portafolio.co/economia/ARTICULO-MOVILES-AMP-547705.htmlOk, thanks M. E. I understand the basics of the P why see regulation. So now what I am asking is. As a foreigner / Non-Colombian / Gringo, how do I determine which is my day & which is not my day. So before you say "It is according to your CEDULa number! I don't have a CEDULA, So is the passport used or which document is used?
Thanks.
El Mechanico.
OK guys, I know I am going to get hammered for this but I have RTFF and I think I know what this is all about but would like some feedback from those in the know or Boots on the Ground. I just got an email from the embassy in Bogot saying that the pico why Cedula will go back into effect through Christmas and into the new year. My questions are how does this affect tourists? How will this affect me if I want to take a taxi to an MP or a hotel or whatever? Will it affect walking around in Santa Fe, etc. Etc. Any help will be appreciated. Feel free to dog cuss me about RTFF if you must, but I just got the email yesterday. And just like the Covid restrictions they seem to change on a daily basis.
El Mechanico.From what I've read, it doesn't affect movement around the city. You may be asked for you ID when you enter more proper establishments. I doubt you'll be asked for a massage parlor, but in anycase, just bring two ID's one ending in an odd number and one ending in an even number.
https://www.eltiempo.com/bogota/vuelve-el-pico-y-cedula-a-bogota-tras-incremento-de-casos-de-covid-556041
Seeking in Medellin is a waste of time, mostly pro's there. Girls are going on-line, trolling. Cost you 300 k + for a 9. Bogota is better for SA. It takes a lot of time however. La Isla spoiled me. WOW More details later.Good deal for a 9, if you ask me. Less than $100. If it is a normal 3-4 hrs date.
Could you please share your experience with SA in Bogota?
The Tall Man
12-22-20, 17:49
Back in Bogota, leaving tomorrow. I miss HKTJ and their CLEAN rooms. Virus? I was told if you stay in an enclosed space for 2 hours where someone has the virus, you will get it. Passing by, nada.
I had to see Medellin. I like everything about it except the cabbies and too much walking uphill. I am not just a monger. Tours in Medellin were amazing. But Bogota is easier to get around. I think the holidays slowed everything down. Still I met 4,. 10's in 30 days and a lot of others. I wish the casas in Bogota were easier to find. WTF? I'll be back. Probably in 3 months. I will say this. Seeking in Medellin is a waste of time, mostly pro's there. Girls are going on-line, trolling. Cost you 300 k + for a 9. Bogota is better for SA. It takes a lot of time however. La Isla spoiled me. WOW More details later.Good to meet you a few weeks back when you got to Medellin, sounds like you enjoyed yourself, and yes the chicas are fun at La Isla, I will never forget that first night we headed up there, the building power was going on and off and good thing we decided to stay until the power was on again, oh the memories.
Gods speed to you my friend and hurry back.
The Tall Man.
El Mechanico
12-22-20, 18:01
From what I've read, it doesn't affect movement around the city. You may be asked for you ID when you enter more proper establishments. I doubt you'll be asked for a massage parlor, but in anycase, just bring two ID's one ending in an odd number and one ending in an even number.
https://www.eltiempo.com/bogota/vuelve-el-pico-y-cedula-a-bogota-tras-incremento-de-casos-de-covid-556041That's what I was thinking. My DL ends in an odd number & passport ends in an even number. I have contacted several prepagos and the answer seems to be the same. Unless I am going to a supermarket, bank, mall. Department store, etc, I won't be stopped or interrogated. Thanks for your response.
El Mechanico.
I've asked this question in various forms. But I think I'll try again before I go back to an AirBnB. I like clean, comfortable 3* and up hotels with fluffy towels and clean sheets. I also like bringing chicas in without a hassle.
I saw a report that sounded like the Marriott didn't bother you. Is that true? Are there any other nice hotels that tolerate female guests? Or at least don't have a ridiculous chica fee?
OK guys, I know I am going to get hammered for this but I have RTFF and I think I know what this is all about but would like some feedback from those in the know or Boots on the Ground. I just got an email from the embassy in Bogot saying that the pico why Cedula will go back into effect through Christmas and into the new year. My questions are how does this affect tourists? How will this affect me if I want to take a taxi to an MP or a hotel or whatever? Will it affect walking around in Santa Fe, etc. Etc. Any help will be appreciated. Feel free to dog cuss me about RTFF if you must, but I just got the email yesterday. And just like the Covid restrictions they seem to change on a daily basis.
El Mechanico.As a tourist your legal ID is your passport. That's the one you should be using. However, if you also have the passport card, you could probably use that as well.
TiaVoyage25
12-23-20, 01:54
Gentlemen,
After a year and a half, I will be returning to Colombia next Tuesday for at least 3 weeks, but up to 6 weeks. Small chance I change my flight to visit Brazil on the front end in order to avoid their new PCR test requirement that takes effect on the 30th, but that would only delay the trip by about 10 days. This trip, I plan to visit all Bogota has to offer since I have so much time. SF, northern clubs, MPs, and casas. In previous trips I spent most of my time in SF out of convenience.
Bottom line. I know that I have not contributed much to the forum to deserve the collected wisdom of its members. I'm hoping that my few trip reports from last year are enough to garner some favor in answering a few questions, so that I may have a good time and give back to the forum in the form of detailed reports during the visit. And if that isn't enough, I am happy to share a funny story of an unforgettable experience when I was staying at the famous White House in Medellin. The hook, line, and sinker: I was awoken in the middle of the night to the sound of police raiding the place.
To avoid redundancy and looking like a fool, I have done significant RTFF prior to forming the questions below:
1.) My plan is to stay at Ibis (near SF) and B3 (Zona Rosa). Both of those places were guest friendly during my last visit pre-COVID, but am unsure if the policy remains so? I have done my due diligence but have not yet heard back from the hotel staff. If this has changed, or anyone has any better guest-friendly recommendations (to include AirBnBs), please reach out.
2.) As previously stated, I will be going through the full gamut of all Bogota has to offer, but for the days I'm feeling lazy and don't want to leave the hotel, does anyone have any recommended agencies? La Celestina was pretty good for me in the past but don't know how covid has impacted their operations. I will use photoprepagos and mileroticos as I have also done in the past, but am looking for the "easy button" on the days I just need to take a knee and drink water.
3.) Will I need to show a return trip ticket when I go through customs / immigrations upon arrival? Research tells me that this is sometimes the case, but looking to get the latest from recent travelers. I haven't had to show a return trip before but you never know with the current COVID situation.
4.) Pico why Cedula. I've read the news articles and have the dual ID info from previous posts, but is there anything else I should be aware of before arriving from guys on the ground? Any anticipated shutdowns of specific businesses or travel?
Thanks in advance for any information, and as previously stated, any assistance will help me write better trip reports in the coming weeks! I recently purchased a membership so am open to messages that are better suited for PMs as well.
Oh and Woodman, I'll be reaching out soon to arrange a tour!
Happy Holidays,
TIA.
LatinaLover#1
12-23-20, 07:14
When P & P was announced they said only one person in a restaurant. Now yesterday they reversed course.
"Cada medida sanitaria que hemos tomado en Bogotá busca un equilibrio entre el cuidado de la salud why de la economía.
Escuchando a pequeńos empresarios why tras un acuerdo con ellos en control de aforos why horarios, hemos levantado medida de #PicoYCedula para restaurantes why hoteles. ".
Lot's of resistance from the banking and business community in Bogota to any more shutdowns or quarantine. However, with ICU's filling up I don't trust Lopez for a minute from going rouge and flipping Bogota upside down again. My usual MO is to go to Bogota every 6 weeks or so or my novia to come to the states so I was scheduled to go back to Bogota January 14th but we decided better she comes here. Too much aggravation dealing with P&P one day this, next day that. While I don't see the PCR ever returning again I do see a full lock down in Bogota and possible Airport shutdown. I'm not down for weeks on end being stuck in a Bogota hotel, especially the way the administration is constantly moving the goal post.
TiaVoyage25
12-23-20, 08:00
I've asked this question in various forms. But I think I'll try again before I go back to an AirBnB. I like clean, comfortable 3* and up hotels with fluffy towels and clean sheets. I also like bringing chicas in without a hassle.
I saw a report that sounded like the Marriott didn't bother you. Is that true? Are there any other nice hotels that tolerate female guests? Or at least don't have a ridiculous chica fee?Ibis near SF and B3 in Zona Rosa were guest friendly on my trip pre-COVID. In advance of my trip next week I emailed to see if they had any policy changes but am still waiting. Both hotels are quite nice with good Wi-Fi and a restaurant / bar in the lobby.
I've asked this question in various forms. But I think I'll try again before I go back to an AirBnB. I like clean, comfortable 3* and up hotels with fluffy towels and clean sheets. I also like bringing chicas in without a hassle.
I saw a report that sounded like the Marriott didn't bother you. Is that true? Are there any other nice hotels that tolerate female guests? Or at least don't have a ridiculous chica fee?I stayed at the AC Hotel Zona T just last week and I brought nearly 7 or 8 different girls up with me. The key is they just couldn't be dressed like a prostitute, and we just had to walk in as we belonged. No issues there. It's in a much higher class area than other spots of Bogota, so it's family oriented. Don't give them cause to stop you, and they won't.
OK guys, been home for a few days after a 7 days trip. Here is a full trip report for everyone. The flight to Bogota was a breeze, I was able to snag Delta1 seating for sub $500 so it was a no-brainer and an easy flight. Customs was a breeze, just have your check-mig filled out and I was through customs and the luggage pick up spot in under 10 minutes. There are many ATMs in the luggage pick up area, choose which one works for you, and get some cash there if needed. Uber is not allowed at the airport to pick up directly, if you want to use them you have to walk offsite which I highly do not recommend. It was 35 mil for me to take a black car to my hotel in ZonaT. Before a lot of you haters get started on "YYZ overpays for shit". I frankly don't care so save it. The hotel was nice, got a suite there and paid sub-$100 a night which included a full breakfast daily with English-speaking employees. The hotel was guest friendly, but I just made sure not to bring back girls who were clearly prepagos. Anyone I was with I would ask them to dress like a lady and I had zero problems.
I did a mix of clubs, Bumble (which is great for non-pros if you are least semi-attractive), and visited Santa Fe once. I did the Woodman tour and would highly recommend it. Santa Fe is a spot I would never go to down by myself, and it's not that I was afraid there, it's just dirty and disgusting. I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour. Woodman knew the area, showed me all the clubs, and helped get snacks, etc. Some guys are saying that "why do you need to pay Woodman?" - It's because it's his job. And he was worth every penny of the cost. He showed me the clubs, helped me negotiate show costs, and made sure the meseros didn't rip me off for a first-time visitor there. In short, we spend about 4 hours together and it was really nice to see, but outside of just partying a bit that was all for the night. Woodman is cool as hell, and just chilling with the guy was fun in itself. Thank you, Woodman!
I visited numerous casas, massage parlors and, 3 main clubs up near ZonaT. Olympia, CasaNova, and Lido. Some nights were amazing with 40+ girl lineups, other nights when some board members came it was not so great, and apologies guys but it really was better the nights before. Hung out with MSanchez a few times, and that guy is cool as hell. When you enter the club all the girls line up and stand there until you pick one. I'm picky, and even if I know who I want I will make them wait. Both nights I ended up with girls who I ended up bringing back to my hotel, and then am still talking to even as of this morning on Whats App. Be warned, each time you order a drink you should pay in advance. Both of my girls confirmed that the meseros will intentionally take the menu and then try to rip you off for the check. Keep the menu, and each time you order a drink or bottle you pay upfront in cash. Otherwise, at the end they want to tack some crazy "service" fee on there. Unfortunately, both Msanchez and I got ripped off at Casanova for probably 100 Mil each, but my second girl actually ended up so upset about this she gave it back to me out of her pocket when I told her. (I didn't take it, but she just didn't like me getting mistreated). That's the same night she told me "leche en todo papicito", which for my fairly decent Spanish means "cum inside me daddy". Almost blew a hole in that girls back I came so hard with the grinding thing she did.
I'm not sure what most of you guys want, but for me, it's not always about fucking, but it's the thrill of the hunt. Columbian girls are passionate if you find the right ones, and I will be damned if not one but both of the girls I was talking to on the second night ended up turning down money from me one of them going to BBFS and her telling me she developed feelings for me. My goal for these trips is to enjoy my time, spend 50% of the time with just quick girls in casas or parlors, and the other 50% my aim is to vet and find a few long term girls to visit in the future, or even import to me on trips. I like dating and girlfriends. Cost-wise, the average massage parlor was 150-200 k for an hour, and most club girls wanted 300 k-500 k for TLN. I spent about 800 - 1.2 M daily between high-end food, dating, shopping, and sex sometimes 3-4 times daily. Again, for those you who say "you overpaid". I don't care. I'm not rich , but I don't do 2-3 month trips like you guys, so my time there is more valuable than getting the best deal every possible time. Also, ProTip here: Lecethin. This stuff really increases cum volume. Grab a bottle on Amazon and bring it with you. I took about 8-12 a day (they are giant pills) - but really do increase the volume which makes having sex 3-4 daily for a week possible and far more enjoyable. Also, don't go with that off-market Viagra or Cialis. GoodRX you can get 30 100 MG Viagra a month for about $24 USD. I break them in 1/2 and can literally fuck, cum, and fuck again while staying hard with those things. I don't need them, I just want them so I can turn a session into a solid 30+ min of intercourse with these.
Leaving Bogota was easy. Called an Uber and was there in about 30 minutes around 7:00 am. The airport was fast customs wise, just the check-mig form again, the usual customs declarations when checking my bag and then to the gate. I got there too early, so I suggest 2 hours before a flight, not 3. Not a lot is open there early, so did a ton of just sitting at the gate before boarding the plane. I was back asleep before we even took off and just woke up for the meal service and then back to bed after a super long night the night before. I'm heading back to MDE in January for 15 days, and sure enough one of the Bogota girls I'm now going to bring with me as a wing-woman. Will buy her ticket and food, but otherwise not paying her otherwise. Before the player haters come out and tell me I'm bringing sand to the beach, she knows the drill and is going to help me crush a lot of pussy with hopefully some really passionate threesomes as she is into girls too and really wants me as her Papi Chulo which I would be totally fine with. If anyone is in MDE from 1/19 - 1/30 let me know. Let's get out and first bottle in the club is on me.
GringoItaliano
12-23-20, 16:29
I went to Bogota for my third trip to that city a few weeks after my trip to Medellin in November. I wanted to take further advantage of the pre-Christmas rush and squeeze in another trip while Colombia was still suspending the PCR test requirement and before Biden imprisons us in the Matrix. My interest in Bogota – specifically, the Santa Fe red light district – stemmed from what I saw of the renaissance of the Centro street scene in Medellin, which was richer than usual due to post-lockdown circumstances. I hoped that this would be an opportune time to take advantage of such circumstances in Santa Fe.
The Centro street scene in Medellin had evidently taken off due to slow business or closures at the usual indoor venues, health concerns about those indoor venues that were open, and general post-lockdown economic hardship. I had thought, as I planned my Medellin trip, that Internet pipelining would be the most fruitful form of mongering during a pandemic that had pushed so many other forms of labor and leisure into virtual settings. It did not occur to me until I saw the rebirth of the Centro street scene in Medellin that "outdoor mongering" would be another lifeline for this business, in much the same way that "outdoor dining" has been a lifeline for many struggling restaurants. Colombia's other main "outdoor mongering" venues are Bogota's Santa Fe district (in part) and Cartagena's Clock Tower. Cartagena is not my cup of tea, so Santa Fe was the obvious choice for my next trip.
I flew from Miami on a reasonably priced American Airlines ticket that I bought only two days in advance, just in case the Colombian government reinstated the PCR test requirement. I stayed again at Hotel Ibis Bogota Museo, which is cheap, convenient to Santa Fe, and participates in Accor's loyalty program. According to English-language paperwork that I signed upon check-in (which I did not see on previous trips), the hotel is still chica-friendly, but only allows one chica at a time. I had read that some hotels had changed their chica-friendly policies due to the pandemic, but this one evidently has not.
The general contours of Santa Fe's landscape remained much the same as before, except for the disappointing closure of Atunes during my visit. That daytime / happy hour club was one of my preferred spots in Santa Fe and yielded many of my best sessions during my previous two trips. Paisas also closed for a few nights earlier in the week, possibly due to low volume. It was noticeably slower than I remembered from previous trips, even when it was open later in the week. Paisas appears to have lost some of its market share to the more consistently busy Fiebre and Troya, or to the street scene. As before, I found that the quality of the nighttime talent and service was best at Fiebre.
The biggest and most significant shift seems to have been in both the numbers and the quality of the girls working the street, relative to the clubs. There has always been significant overlap between the street girls and the club girls, in contrast to the sharper distinctions between street girls and club girls in Tijuana. As they always have, many Santa Fe girls go back and forth between the street and the clubs as they see fit. It seemed to me that post-lockdown circumstances have shifted some of the talent pool, including some of the hotter girls and the better performers, away from the clubs and toward the street. I asked some of the girls about this observation, and some of them said that: a) working the clubs had become less profitable because guys had less money to spend and thus went more frequently for the cheaper option of buying pussy off the street; and b) they and some guys were concerned about the health risks of the clubs' often crowded indoor environments. This shift marked an interesting parallel to Tijuana, where the closure of clubs by the authorities forced many club girls to work the street for a fraction of what they earned at the clubs, as I saw when I went there earlier this year.
Some mongers have suggested that post-lockdown circumstances would create a "buyer's market," believing that economic hardship would flood the market with girls, make them more amenable to lower prices, or motivate them to provide better service. As in Medellin, I found this observation to be true in many cases, but wrong in other cases. Economic desperation is not always a good or reliable motivation to provide quality service. It merely motivates the desperate to obtain money, but not necessarily to give good value in exchange for that money. In an environment like Santa Fe, where payment up front is the norm and repeat business is less of a factor than it is in the Facebook scene of Medellin, I found that the benefits of this hardship factor were weaker than they were in Medellin.
Accordingly, this trip definitely had more extreme highs and lows. Santa Fe has always been a hit-or-miss, "diamonds in the rough" type of market, but this variability was even more pronounced on this trip. The solid performers really knocked it out of the park in a way that I had not experienced since my first trip, and perhaps even more so. Curiously, many of the solid performers were costenas from places like Santa Marta or Baranquilla. The solid performances from costenas were so consistent that it could not have been a fluke; I am convinced that there must be some cultural, physical, or other reason for it. This part of Colombia has little reputation for mongering outside Cartagena, where most of the girls come from Medellin, other parts of the country, or Venezuela. I have wanted to go to Santa Marta for a long time for non-mongering reasons, but now I am curious what the local women are like, and if my experiences with costenas on this trip give me any reasonable idea of what to expect there.
By the same token, many performances were poor and half-assed, such that I might have protested if the sums of money involved had not been so small. The recurring theme with poor performers was that many of them were Venezuelans, which illustrates my point that desperation is not a reliable source of good service. I have long suspected that the Venezuelan impact on the pussy market in Colombia has been overrated, and now I am convinced. I do not doubt that cheap competition from Venezuelans helps to keep Colombians in check, but I do not see any other qualitative advantage that the Venezuelans offer, beyond increasing numbers and lowering prices. My Spanish has improved to the point that I can now recognize the Venezuelan accent, and to be honest I often find it irritating and hard to understand.
There did appear to be some truth to the notion that girls would be more willing to provide services that they would not have provided under normal circumstances. Santa Fe is a predominantly CBJ scene, but there are enough girls willing to do BBBJ (for a surcharge, of course) that one can still do well if CBJ is a showstopper, as it is for me. At first my success in negotiating BBBJ was higher than it had been in the past, but that improvement deteriorated over the course of my week-long trip. One possible explanation for this deterioration, according to one girl, was that the girls saw me there so often that they viewed me as too high of a risk for BBBJ because "I get around" (cue the 2 PAC song).
I have now spent enough time in Santa Fe to see patterns in the geographic distribution of the street girls and figure out what works best for me. I have usually gotten my best results with girls on the side of the street across from the rear entrance of La Piscina, which I have come to call "Silicone Alley. " The girls here are often more stacked, thicker, taller, and somewhat older, with stronger erotic skills and a better sense of customer service. To the south there is a higher concentration of young skinny girls whose cedulas you should check before you partake, as well as some black girls from Cali. The skinny young girls are generally not my cup of tea, and to the extent that I did sample this segment of the talent pool, I was often disappointed. Black girls from Cali rarely disappoint, however. To the west, along the street with the rear entrances to Troya and Paisas, the talent and the service is mixed.
I have included some photos of girls that I took. As in the past, the vast majority of Santa Fe girls are not photo-friendly. Not only do they typically refuse requests for photos, they will often become hostile or ask for more money in return. I consider myself lucky to have gotten this many, as few as they are.
GringoItaliano
12-23-20, 16:36
Here are the photos from my December 2020 trip.
As a tourist your legal ID is your passport. That's the one you should be using. However, if you also have the passport card, you could probably use that as well.In Most cases a copy of passport is fine or a drivers license-- Also it is very easy to doctor a scan of passport to change number to odd or even and then print out a b+W copy.
As a tourist your legal ID is your passport. That's the one you should be using. However, if you also have the passport card, you could probably use that as well.Thats technically probably true. But practically speaking, most people don't care. I used an expired drivers license to enter a mall on Monday.
I've asked this question in various forms. But I think I'll try again before I go back to an AirBnB. I like clean, comfortable 3* and up hotels with fluffy towels and clean sheets. I also like bringing chicas in without a hassle.
I saw a report that sounded like the Marriott didn't bother you. Is that true? Are there any other nice hotels that tolerate female guests? Or at least don't have a ridiculous chica fee?The Hyatt Place in las corferias is brand new and girl friendly. I wrote to them before I arrived and they specifically told me that they would never charge extra for visitors. Its really a more business oriented hotel, so its not fancy but practical. I get the feeling they are used to random people coming in as they hold conferences / meetings here. You can get a suite if you want more space. The breakfast is decent and there is a bar in the lobby if you want to use it. Again not fancy, utiliitarian. The lobby is also on the 2nd floor, not the first. You can enter with your chica and after the guard takes your temperature, you go straight to the elevator and have the option of either stopping in the lobby on the 2nd floor to register your guest or going straight to your room.
Its a 5 minute cab ride to santa fe without traffic. A 7 minute cab ride to chapinero without traffic. Theres a mini exito a block away. The minuses: it can sometimes be difficult to get a cab / uber after 11 pm or so. There isn't much to do in the area unless you're going to some convention nearby. You're going to be taking a taxi or a bus anywhere you want to go. But I spend a lot of time in my hotel room, so that doesn't really bother me.
This is what happened to me recently! I'm glad those F* got caught!
https://www.eltiempo.com/justicia/delitos/cae-red-de-mujeres-senalada-de-extorsionar-a-mas-de-200-hombres-556368
ArmnHammer69
12-23-20, 19:49
Had an awesome night even though it was still Monday and slower. I had 2 different two hour sessions with 2 of my favorite fiebre girls to help them get a little more cash before Christmas. One of the girls I'm crushing hard on trying to convince her to come to Cancun with me for Christmas. I've been all over Colombia but this girl fiebre is the perfect combination of sexy and cute after all my trips to Colombia and worldwide 70 countries and counting. Ibis is definitely my favorite hotel spot only brought one girl back just asked for cedula of course. 11,000 pesos Uber to andino. Home burgers right across the street best burgers in Colombia. Oxxo two minute walk and bank machine s galore. Cheap and reliable laundry place just up the hill from ibis by the gold museum just follow the white wall up the hill 10-20 k a bag.
The Centro street scene in Medellin had evidently taken off due to slow business or closures at the usual indoor venues, health concerns about those indoor venues that were open, and general post-lockdown economic hardship. I had thought, as I planned my Medellin trip, that Internet pipelining would be the most fruitful form of mongering during a pandemic that had pushed so many other forms of labor and leisure into virtual settings. It did not occur to me until I saw the rebirth of the Centro street scene in Medellin that "outdoor mongering" would be another lifeline for this business, in much the same way that "outdoor dining" has been a lifeline for many struggling restaurants. Colombia's other main "outdoor mongering" venues are Bogota's Santa Fe district (in part) and Cartagena's Clock Tower. Cartagena is not my cup of tea, so Santa Fe was the obvious choice for my next trip.
I was in Medellin all of October and went to Centro several times. Maybe the street scene hadn't picked up as much as when you were there. But it was pretty much the same as its always been in my opinion. Pretty abysmal. And doesn't have anything on Santa Fe.
The general contours of Santa Fe's landscape remained much the same as before, except for the disappointing closure of Atunes during my visit. That daytime / happy hour club was one of my preferred spots in Santa Fe and yielded many of my best sessions during my previous two trips.
I agree this his a huge blow. Atunes was a staple of my Bogota diet. I miss it.
The biggest and most significant shift seems to have been in both the numbers and the quality of the girls working the street, relative to the clubs. There has always been significant overlap between the street girls and the club girls, in contrast to the sharper distinctions between street girls and club girls in Tijuana. As they always have, many Santa Fe girls go back and forth between the street and the clubs as they see fit. It seemed to me that post-lockdown circumstances have shifted some of the talent pool, including some of the hotter girls and the better performers, away from the clubs and toward the street. I asked some of the girls about this observation, and some of them said that: a) working the clubs had become less profitable because guys had less money to spend and thus went more frequently for the cheaper option of buying pussy off the street; and b) they and some guys were concerned about the health risks of the clubs' often crowded indoor environments. This shift marked an interesting parallel to Tijuana, where the closure of clubs by the authorities forced many club girls to work the street for a fraction of what they earned at the clubs, as I saw when I went there earlier this year.
In my opinion, the hotter girls are still in the clubs. I was in Santa Fe in Sept 2019 and compared to now, the street scene of Santa Fe is about 60 to 70 percent of what it should be. Atonis is about the same. Troya, has taken a hit. It used to be that you'd go to troya on a Friday evening and there would be a tons of guys, but there were also a decent number of girls. Nowadays, troya is hit or miss. There are always a lot of guys on the popular nights, but the number of girls has dwindled. I'd say its 50 percent of what it was in 2019. Paisas was always hit or miss. Not much has changed there. There's also a club in between paisas that back in the day would also have girls but now is closed.
Some mongers have suggested that post-lockdown circumstances would create a "buyer's market," believing that economic hardship would flood the market with girls, make them more amenable to lower prices, or motivate them to provide better service. As in Medellin, I found this observation to be true in many cases, but wrong in other cases. Economic desperation is not always a good or reliable motivation to provide quality service. It merely motivates the desperate to obtain money, but not necessarily to give good value in exchange for that money.
If there is desperation in the air, I cannot smell it. The girls normally charge 30 or 40 k. How much lower can you really go? Maybe they are a bit desperate, and they'll go with your for 35 k instead of 40 k? As cheap as I am, I'm not going to argue over 5 k.
I think generally, what kind of service you get has always depended on a combination of what kind of rapport you build with the girl and how much you pay her. Nothing has changed there. I have some girls that are sweethearts in santa fe. Some that are cold and machine like when you get to the room. I do repeats with the former. Trying them out for 40 k is the fun part. Then on the repeat you can go for more time.
By the same token, many performances were poor and half-assed, such that I might have protested if the sums of money involved had not been so small. The recurring theme with poor performers was that many of them were Venezuelans, which illustrates my point that desperation is not a reliable source of good service. I have long suspected that the Venezuelan impact on the pussy market in Colombia has been overrated, and now I am convinced. I do not doubt that cheap competition from Venezuelans helps to keep Colombians in check, but I do not see any other qualitative advantage that the Venezuelans offer, beyond increasing numbers and lowering prices. My Spanish has improved to the point that I can now recognize the Venezuelan accent, and to be honest I often find it irritating and hard to understand.
I for one am grateful for the venezuelan presence in Bogota. That's the main reason why I came to Bogota from medellin. I find that colombians are more likely to be full of themselves, venezuelans for the most part I find to be more humble. I can sometimes tell the accent, but I don't find it rough. Maybe my spanish is not good enough.
I have now spent enough time in Santa Fe to see patterns in the geographic distribution of the street girls and figure out what works best for me. I have usually gotten my best results with girls on the side of the street across from the rear entrance of La Piscina, which I have come to call "Silicone Alley. " The girls here are often more stacked, thicker, taller, and somewhat older, with stronger erotic skills and a better sense of customer service. To the south there is a higher concentration of young skinny girls whose cedulas you should check before you partake, as well as some black girls from Cali. The skinny young girls are generally not my cup of tea, and to the extent that I did sample this segment of the talent pool, I was often disappointed. Black girls from Cali rarely disappoint, however. To the west, along the street with the rear entrances to Troya and Paisas, the talent and the service is mixed.
I know the area to the south you talk about. I call it "jailbait corner". Have fun and stay safe in santa fe!
OK guys, been home for a few days after a 7 days trip. Here is a full trip report for everyone. You shouldn't have to explain why you're spending your money as you see fit, well, as long as you're not grossly overpaying or give outrageous tips because that does have a potential to raise prices. But as long as you don't make them reevaluate (LOL) their price tags who gives a shit? It's your money. As to airfares or lodging costs, I don't think it's anyone's business to begin with. Just like you, I don't have months to explore the scene, and I won't try to pinch pennies by staying in shitty hotels.
Could you explain how GoodRX works? They always spam all my emails, so I've never given them a second thought. For this kind of money, though, I'm pretty sure it's generic they sell, no?
Also Lecethin. Any side effect you've noticed? I used to take Maca, and it worked initially, then I noticed it stopped being effective.
MarquisdeSade1
12-24-20, 07:26
Before the player haters come out .And hey we don't talk like that around here, this is not the Jerry Springer show circa 1993.
MarquisdeSade1
12-24-20, 08:35
I went to Bogota for my third trip to that city a few weeks after my trip to Medellin in November. I wanted to take further advantage of the pre-Christmas rush and squeeze in another trip while Colombia was still suspending the PCR test requirement and before Biden imprisons us in the Matrix. My interest in Bogota specifically, the Santa Fe red light district stemmed from what I saw of the renaissance of the Centro street scene in Medellin, which was richer than usual due to post-lockdown circumstances. I hoped that this would be an opportune time to take advantage of such circumstances in Santa Fe..You list some interesting insights, you like to analyze things like I do.
I do a trip autopsy when I get home, well done!
OK guys, been home for a few days after a 7 days trip. Here is a full trip report for everyone. The flight to Bogota was a breeze, I was able to snag Delta1 seating for sub $500 so it was a no-brainer and an easy flight. Customs was a breeze, just have your check-mig filled out and I was through customs and the luggage pick up spot in under 10 minutes. There are many ATMs in the luggage pick up area, choose which one works for you, and get some cash there if needed. Uber is not allowed at the airport to pick up directly, if you want to use them you have to walk offsite which I highly do not recommend. It was 35 mil for me to take a black car to my hotel in ZonaT. Before a lot of you haters get started on "YYZ overpays for shit". I frankly don't care so save it. The hotel was nice, got a suite there and paid sub-$100 a night which included a full breakfast daily with English-speaking employees. The hotel was guest friendly, but I just made sure not to bring back girls who were clearly prepagos. Anyone I was with I would ask them to dress like a lady and I had zero problems.
I did a mix of clubs, Bumble (which is great for non-pros if you are least semi-attractive), and visited Santa Fe once. I did the Woodman tour and would highly recommend it. Santa Fe is a spot I would never go to down by myself, and it's not that I was afraid there, it's just dirty and disgusting. I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour. Woodman knew the area, showed me all the clubs, and helped get snacks, etc. Some guys are saying that "why do you need to pay Woodman?" - It's because it's his job. And he was worth every penny of the cost. He showed me the clubs, helped me negotiate show costs, and made sure the meseros didn't rip me off for a first-time visitor there. In short, we spend about 4 hours together and it was really nice to see, but outside of just partying a bit that was all for the night. Woodman is cool as hell, and just chilling with the guy was fun in itself. Thank you, Woodman!
I visited numerous casas, massage parlors and, 3 main clubs up near ZonaT. Olympia, CasaNova, and Lido. Some nights were amazing with 40+ girl lineups, other nights when some board members came it was not so great, and apologies guys but it really was better the nights before. Hung out with MSanchez a few times, and that guy is cool as hell. When you enter the club all the girls line up and stand there until you pick one. I'm picky, and even if I know who I want I will make them wait. Both nights I ended up with girls who I ended up bringing back to my hotel, and then am still talking to even as of this morning on Whats App. Be warned, each time you order a drink you should pay in advance. Both of my girls confirmed that the meseros will intentionally take the menu and then try to rip you off for the check. Keep the menu, and each time you order a drink or bottle you pay upfront in cash. Otherwise, at the end they want to tack some crazy "service" fee on there. Unfortunately, both Msanchez and I got ripped off at Casanova for probably 100 Mil each, but my second girl actually ended up so upset about this she gave it back to me out of her pocket when I told her. (I didn't take it, but she just didn't like me getting mistreated). That's the same night she told me "leche en todo papicito", which for my fairly decent Spanish means "cum inside me daddy". Almost blew a hole in that girls back I came so hard with the grinding thing she did.
I'm not sure what most of you guys want, but for me, it's not always about fucking, but it's the thrill of the hunt. Columbian girls are passionate if you find the right ones, and I will be damned if not one but both of the girls I was talking to on the second night ended up turning down money from me one of them going to BBFS and her telling me she developed feelings for me. My goal for these trips is to enjoy my time, spend 50% of the time with just quick girls in casas or parlors, and the other 50% my aim is to vet and find a few long term girls to visit in the future, or even import to me on trips. I like dating and girlfriends. Cost-wise, the average massage parlor was 150-200 k for an hour, and most club girls wanted 300 k-500 k for TLN. I spent about 800 - 1.2 M daily between high-end food, dating, shopping, and sex sometimes 3-4 times daily. Again, for those you who say "you overpaid". I don't care. I'm not rich , but I don't do 2-3 month trips like you guys, so my time there is more valuable than getting the best deal every possible time. Also, ProTip here: Lecethin. This stuff really increases cum volume. Grab a bottle on Amazon and bring it with you. I took about 8-12 a day (they are giant pills) - but really do increase the volume which makes having sex 3-4 daily for a week possible and far more enjoyable. Also, don't go with that off-market Viagra or Cialis. GoodRX you can get 30 100 MG Viagra a month for about $24 USD. I break them in 1/2 and can literally fuck, cum, and fuck again while staying hard with those things. I don't need them, I just want them so I can turn a session into a solid 30+ min of intercourse with these.
Leaving Bogota was easy. Called an Uber and was there in about 30 minutes around 7:00 am. The airport was fast customs wise, just the check-mig form again, the usual customs declarations when checking my bag and then to the gate. I got there too early, so I suggest 2 hours before a flight, not 3. Not a lot is open there early, so did a ton of just sitting at the gate before boarding the plane. I was back asleep before we even took off and just woke up for the meal service and then back to bed after a super long night the night before. I'm heading back to MDE in January for 15 days, and sure enough one of the Bogota girls I'm now going to bring with me as a wing-woman. Will buy her ticket and food, but otherwise not paying her otherwise. Before the player haters come out and tell me I'm bringing sand to the beach, she knows the drill and is going to help me crush a lot of pussy with hopefully some really passionate threesomes as she is into girls too and really wants me as her Papi Chulo which I would be totally fine with. If anyone is in MDE from 1/19 - 1/30 let me know. Let's get out and first bottle in the club is on me.Whatever floats your boat, as some else said, as long as it doesn't impact the overall price range!
John Gault
12-24-20, 14:20
Gentlemen,
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3.) Will I need to show a return trip ticket when I go through customs / immigrations upon arrival? Research tells me that this is sometimes the case, but looking to get the latest from recent travelers. I haven't had to show a return trip before but you never know with the current COVID situation.
TIA.The return ticket is only needed when you leave to start your trip.
....I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour....Good report but I didn't quite get this part. You said the BBBJ was nice so why did you stop part way?
ArmnHammer69
12-24-20, 16:58
Here are the photos from my December 2020 trip.Girl on the top right think her name in Natasha gives an amazing deep throat blowjob BBBJ available as well. Seen her twice this trip usually hangs out at the blue and white spot where you take your first left in Santa Fe going give her a try.
OK guys, been home for a few days after a 7 days trip. Here is a full trip report for everyone. The flight to Bogota was a breeze, I was able to snag Delta1 seating for sub $500 so it was a no-brainer and an easy flight. Customs was a breeze, just have your check-mig filled out and I was through customs and the luggage pick up spot in under 10 minutes. There are many ATMs in the luggage pick up area, choose which one works for you, and get some cash there if needed. Uber is not allowed at the airport to pick up directly, if you want to use them you have to walk offsite which I highly do not recommend. It was 35 mil for me to take a black car to my hotel in ZonaT. Before a lot of you haters get started on "YYZ overpays for shit". I frankly don't care so save it. The hotel was nice, got a suite there and paid sub-$100 a night which included a full breakfast daily with English-speaking employees. The hotel was guest friendly, but I just made sure not to bring back girls who were clearly prepagos. Anyone I was with I would ask them to dress like a lady and I had zero problems.
I did a mix of clubs, Bumble (which is great for non-pros if you are least semi-attractive), and visited Santa Fe once. I did the Woodman tour and would highly recommend it. Santa Fe is a spot I would never go to down by myself, and it's not that I was afraid there, it's just dirty and disgusting. I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour. Woodman knew the area, showed me all the clubs, and helped get snacks, etc. Some guys are saying that "why do you need to pay Woodman?" - It's because it's his job. And he was worth every penny of the cost. He showed me the clubs, helped me negotiate show costs, and made sure the meseros didn't rip me off for a first-time visitor there. In short, we spend about 4 hours together and it was really nice to see, but outside of just partying a bit that was all for the night. Woodman is cool as hell, and just chilling with the guy was fun in itself. Thank you, Woodman!
I visited numerous casas, massage parlors and, 3 main clubs up near ZonaT. Olympia, CasaNova, and Lido. Some nights were amazing with 40+ girl lineups, other nights when some board members came it was not so great, and apologies guys but it really was better the nights before. Hung out with MSanchez a few times, and that guy is cool as hell. When you enter the club all the girls line up and stand there until you pick one. I'm picky, and even if I know who I want I will make them wait. Both nights I ended up with girls who I ended up bringing back to my hotel, and then am still talking to even as of this morning on Whats App. Be warned, each time you order a drink you should pay in advance. Both of my girls confirmed that the meseros will intentionally take the menu and then try to rip you off for the check. Keep the menu, and each time you order a drink or bottle you pay upfront in cash. Otherwise, at the end they want to tack some crazy "service" fee on there. Unfortunately, both Msanchez and I got ripped off at Casanova for probably 100 Mil each, but my second girl actually ended up so upset about this she gave it back to me out of her pocket when I told her. (I didn't take it, but she just didn't like me getting mistreated). That's the same night she told me "leche en todo papicito", which for my fairly decent Spanish means "cum inside me daddy". Almost blew a hole in that girls back I came so hard with the grinding thing she did.
I'm not sure what most of you guys want, but for me, it's not always about fucking, but it's the thrill of the hunt. Columbian girls are passionate if you find the right ones, and I will be damned if not one but both of the girls I was talking to on the second night ended up turning down money from me one of them going to BBFS and her telling me she developed feelings for me. My goal for these trips is to enjoy my time, spend 50% of the time with just quick girls in casas or parlors, and the other 50% my aim is to vet and find a few long term girls to visit in the future, or even import to me on trips. I like dating and girlfriends. Cost-wise, the average massage parlor was 150-200 k for an hour, and most club girls wanted 300 k-500 k for TLN. I spent about 800 - 1.2 M daily between high-end food, dating, shopping, and sex sometimes 3-4 times daily. Again, for those you who say "you overpaid". I don't care. I'm not rich , but I don't do 2-3 month trips like you guys, so my time there is more valuable than getting the best deal every possible time. Also, ProTip here: Lecethin. This stuff really increases cum volume. Grab a bottle on Amazon and bring it with you. I took about 8-12 a day (they are giant pills) - but really do increase the volume which makes having sex 3-4 daily for a week possible and far more enjoyable. Also, don't go with that off-market Viagra or Cialis. GoodRX you can get 30 100 MG Viagra a month for about $24 USD. I break them in 1/2 and can literally fuck, cum, and fuck again while staying hard with those things. I don't need them, I just want them so I can turn a session into a solid 30+ min of intercourse with these.
Leaving Bogota was easy. Called an Uber and was there in about 30 minutes around 7:00 am. The airport was fast customs wise, just the check-mig form again, the usual customs declarations when checking my bag and then to the gate. I got there too early, so I suggest 2 hours before a flight, not 3. Not a lot is open there early, so did a ton of just sitting at the gate before boarding the plane. I was back asleep before we even took off and just woke up for the meal service and then back to bed after a super long night the night before. I'm heading back to MDE in January for 15 days, and sure enough one of the Bogota girls I'm now going to bring with me as a wing-woman. Will buy her ticket and food, but otherwise not paying her otherwise. Before the player haters come out and tell me I'm bringing sand to the beach, she knows the drill and is going to help me crush a lot of pussy with hopefully some really passionate threesomes as she is into girls too and really wants me as her Papi Chulo which I would be totally fine with. If anyone is in MDE from 1/19 - 1/30 let me know. Let's get out and first bottle in the club is on me.Great report. Sounds like you had a blast. 500 k for tln at those high end places is a good price. The takeout fee is pretty high at Lidos the last time I was there. Is it still around 150 mil?
The Tall Man
12-24-20, 17:49
Here is the business card with directions to the Hotel Plus Plaza near centro, it was discussed a few days back and I just found the card from my visit and stay last week.
I don't necessarily recommend this hotel but it just may serve your needs should you have a chica with no ID as they are very lax. I recall the cost is 23 mil for 3 hours. They do have a small garage to park your car below on the ground level, no extra cost. Do not attempt to walk here from centro as it is a shit area, always take taxi or drive your car.
And the 4 hours I spent in the Jacuzzi room with my thin young skinny paisa doing all kinds of nasty stuff was fun but still recovering now over a week later, and even though it is a Jacuzzi they don't have hot water so you need some party favors to feel no pain getting into a tub filled with cold water at 3 AM with your chica and trying to get your dick up in freezing cold hehehehe.
These are what memories are made of. Merry Christmas to all!
The Tall Man.
MarquisdeSade1
12-24-20, 18:51
OK guys.You say Wood is "cool as hell" but you say this about SF "it's just dirty and disgusting".
If you weren't so clueless? Or maybe you were aware of it being so disrespectful to him?
That is his workspace, that is where he gives tours and makes money, I'm guessing he doesn't need "mongers".
Like you even if you say he's "cool as hell".
Kind of like going to a restaurant and saying the chef is a "cool as hell" guy.
But his food is disgusting.
Your report reads like the writing of a 15 yr old girl.
I just tried finding this place on Google Maps. Says its in Medellin. I'm definitely not walking there from Centro in Bogota.
Here is the business card with directions to the Hotel Plus Plaza near centro, it was discussed a few days back and I just found the card from my visit and stay last week.
I don't necessarily recommend this hotel but it just may serve your needs should you have a chica with no ID as they are very lax. I recall the cost is 23 mil for 3 hours. They do have a small garage to park your car below on the ground level, no extra cost. Do not attempt to walk here from centro as it is a shit area, always take taxi or drive your car.
And the 4 hours I spent in the Jacuzzi room with my thin young skinny paisa doing all kinds of nasty stuff was fun but still recovering now over a week later, and even though it is a Jacuzzi they don't have hot water so you need some party favors to feel no pain getting into a tub filled with cold water at 3 AM with your chica and trying to get your dick up in freezing cold hehehehe.
These are what memories are made of. Merry Christmas to all!
The Tall Man.
Good deal for a 9, if you ask me. Less than $100. If it is a normal 3-4 hrs date.
Could you please share your experience with SA in Bogota?The problem is that gringos come to town and they pay 9 prices for 6's. I think this is a common problem. I also see it in Asia frequently, where foreigners will be hanging out with these butt ugly girls whom they swear are 9's. In a way, I'm actually really happy for the girls, theres no way they could be earning that money from anyone local, even rich locals. I think anyone new to a country needs a bit of time to really get a sense for what the country has to offer in terms of women. Even myself, when I look back at the girls I was willing to sleep with when I first started mongering in asia, or even Colombia for that matter, I am a bit embarassed, but I had a good time. So party on.
To your comment, indeed a 3-4 hour date with a real 9 is a good deal for $100. I will repeat again, there are no 9's or 10's in Santa Fe.
I saw photos of some of the girls that YYZ was hooking up with, he had some decent looking ones in there. I'd say low 9's high 8's. To each their own though.
I was walking back around 15 and 22 after finishing up with a girl. I had put my mask in my pocket when I was with the girl. After I got out I bought a smoke and thought I'll put my mask on after I finished it. Unfortunately I waked into an ID check by the cops for a bunch of Venezuelanos. One of the cops stopped me for not wearing a mask. First he asked me for document. I wasnt carrying a copy of my passport either. Luckily I had a passport picture in my phone. I showed it to him and he was ok with that. I aslo pulled out my mask from my pocket an put it on showing him I had a mask. However he kept saying I was supposed to wear it all the time. If I need smoke she shows me I should pull down the mask but it should always be on my face. Then he takes his phone out and types out 300$ is the fine. I was confused. I asked him is it 30 mil pesos. He say no and types in 900 K pesos in his phone. I told him I don't have that kind of money on me and I can give him 50 k. Then this goes on and he keeps dropping his price and wouldn't go below 200 K. I told him all I have is 100 k and I showed it to him and rest of the change I told him I need for my taxi. He asked me to put the money in my jacket pocket as he won't take it from my hand. He then asked me to turn around to make it look like he was patting me down and took the 100 k from my pocket and let me go, again showing me in action to always wear the mask.
I have been wandering around SF for a week or so on my own (after taking the woodman tour on my first night) and this is the first significant event that happened to me other than the few usual grabbing your hands by aggressive chicas at night. I guess more cops are out there today for the Christmas curfew. I don't know the exact form of curfew. I think no alcohol sales is what it is other than shops closing at 10 pm. Not sure what time bars will close and how they will be open without serving alcohol. I went to Oxxo around 5 pm and the liquor section was sealed off.
My advice is if you see the cops (green fluorescent jackets) just cross the street and walk on the other side.
MarquisdeSade1
12-25-20, 00:11
. Even myself, when I look back at the girls I was willing to sleep with when I first started mongering in asia, or even Colombia for that matter, I am a bit embarassed, but I had a good time. So party on..I was in Asia in 2019 for 27 weeks and probably did at least 200 putas.
One day I was flipping thru my phone just reminiscing with the photos and ran across one that almost sent me into cardiac arrest.
I was shocked, how did she get in my bed? I don't drink or get high, WTF? I was ashamed to admit yes I paid for that, I got many.
Much hotter for free, but I paid for this one, por que? Jajaaaaaaaaaa.
Thankfully I can't remember anything about her, or our "session" even seeing her photo I still don't remember her.
You say Wood is "cool as hell" but you say this about SF "it's just dirty and disgusting".
If you weren't so clueless? Or maybe you were aware of it being so disrespectful to him?
That is his workspace, that is where he gives tours and makes money, I'm guessing he doesn't need "mongers".
Like you even if you say he's "cool as hell".
Kind of like going to a restaurant and saying the chef is a "cool as hell" guy.
But his food is disgusting.
Your report reads like the writing of a 15 yr old girl.LOL chill out dude. Taking things personally on behalf of someone else LOL. Is anyone, Woodman included, going to say that Sante Fe is a nice place? Or that it isn't dirty? What does him earning money giving tours in the place have to do with whether someone thinks its grimy? For many the grime and feeling of being on the far side of the law is part of the allure.
A better analogy would be to go to a restaurant and say the Chef's food is great but he's in a shitty neighborhood. Both things can be true without contradiction.
Mr Enternational
12-25-20, 01:20
I have now spent enough time in Santa Fe to see patterns in the geographic distribution of the street girls and figure out what works best for me. I have usually gotten my best results with girls on the side of the street across from the rear entrance of La Piscina, which I have come to call "Silicone Alley. " To the south there is a higher concentration of young skinny girls whose cedulas you should check before you partake, as well as some black girls from Cali. To the west, along the street with the rear entrances to Troya and Paisas, the talent and the service is mixed.
The biggest and most significant shift seems to have been in both the numbers and the quality of the girls working the street, relative to the clubs. Did you miss the party? It seems you are only talking about that one block that La Piscina, Kalifornia, and Troya surround. If you keep walking a few blocks past La Piscina, there are tons more chicks. You stepped into the foyer and spoke as if you had seen the entire house.
The Tall Man
12-25-20, 03:04
Here is the business card with directions to the Hotel Plus Plaza near centro, it was discussed a few days back and I just found the card from my visit and stay last week.
I don't necessarily recommend this hotel but it just may serve your needs should you have a chica with no ID as they are very lax. I recall the cost is 23 mil for 3 hours. They do have a small garage to park your car below on the ground level, no extra cost. Do not attempt to walk here from centro as it is a shit area, always take taxi or drive your car.
And the 4 hours I spent in the Jacuzzi room with my thin young skinny paisa doing all kinds of nasty stuff was fun but still recovering now over a week later, and even though it is a Jacuzzi they don't have hot water so you need some party favors to feel no pain getting into a tub filled with cold water at 3 AM with your chica and trying to get your dick up in freezing cold hehehehe.
These are what memories are made of. Merry Christmas to all!
The Tall Man.
I just tried finding this place on Google Maps. Says its in Medellin. I'm definitely not walking there from Centro in Bogota.Sorry wrong city. Yes this should have been posted in Medellin section.
Either I need new glasses or I drank too much rum last night at my buddies finca.
The Tall Man.
Mr Enternational
12-25-20, 03:30
Well since everyone else has done their reporting, I might as well do mine. (If I can remember the details.) Me and my dad came into Bogota from Barranquilla on the 4th. Uber was at surge pricing: 28K downtown to San Francisco Hotel, and I had to wait for it to drop that low! Chilled out and relaxed a couple of hours waiting to hear from Kazeu. I finally hit him up and told him that we were about to head to Santa Fe. On the walk down I stopped at my chicken spot and got 2 pieces and arepas for 5K. Another 2 blocks and I was in Santa Fe standing on the corner eating my chicken out of the bag. When I finished we walked around to check out the scene. Touts kept trying to get us to come into the clubs but I told them I was waiting on my boy. Miguel at Troya made me promise to remember his name and ask for him when we came in, which I did end up doing.
Kazeu finally hit me up and said that he was in front of Kalifornia where the young Vennies hang out. We were right around the corner and headed up to meet him. The first stop was Troya. Not many people inside but I did see a chick that I liked. I ordered 2 Cokes for me and my dad and started trying to get acquainted with the chick. Miguel brought the drinks then Kazeu said man let's get the hell out of here. There are not many chicks here. I asked the guy how much the drinks were and he said 20K. WTF! I said yeah you are right. We better get the hell out of here. Kazeu said that was the new Covid price. Luckily the guy had not opened the drinks.
We went over to Atonis and chilled out. We ordered half bottle of Ron Medellin for 80K. I was debating which chick I wanted to choose. Then the chick I was talking to at Troya walked in. She came and sat down while I was sipping on my tasty beverage. I asked how old she was and she said 30. I said there is no fucking way. Your hands look 40. She said she was actually 29 but turning 30 at the end of the month. She pointed to her friend on the other side of the stage and asked if I wanted her to get her friend for my dad. It was a White chick with a bunch of tattoos. I said hell nawl. That broad looks drugged out. Don't be trying to give my dad your junkie friend. She started laughing.
I asked her how much she wanted to fuck and she said 70. I said no way then she dropped to 60. That sounded more like it. I told her to give me her number so I could hit her up later. She said that she lost her phone the other day when she was drunk. She sat it down somewhere then it disappeared. She told me she had to run do something and would come back soon.
Kazeu had run off somewhere and my dad was trying to decide on a chick. He had it narrowed down to 2. I said shit, take both of them. So I made him a deal for 50K for each girl and the room was 16K. I gave him 120K and off they went upstairs.
I was either trying to make a video or take some pictures inside the club on the sly and got busted by the waiter. Then I called a Vennie chick over and she was saying how she wanted 70K. I told her that was too damn much. She said minimum 55K. I told her that I would give her 60K if I could skeet in her mouth. She said sure. No debate or any talk of up charges. Don't know why this is so hard for some guys.
So I was just sitting and rubbing on the girl waiting for one of the guys to come back to the table because we still had liquor. Then one of the chicks my dad was with came running up to the table talking about he wanted more time. I was like shit you have only been gone 5 minutes. What does the 50K get. She said it was for 15 minutes. So I fork over another 120K and she runs back upstairs. Soon she was back at the table saying that he wanted me to come upstairs. I told her that I was not coming up there. My dad came back and said he did not have enough time to finish. I told him this was not a holiday resort. You have to get your business done in the allotted time. So 240K for 30 minutes down the drain. My dad just turned 70 by the way.
Kazeu said he was about to leave and I was about to take my girl upstairs. She told me I needed to pay 6K for the room. WTF? Why was my dad's room 16K then? Who cares. Got to the top of the stairs and the lady that assigns the room asked me for a tip. She was cute to me. I told her if she wanted a tip, she had to come get some of this dick. Me and old girl went off to the room for some fun. I kept a close eye on the clock. Got a little BBBJ then it was time for some old fashioned fucking. I anticipated the knock coming soon so I snatched off the rubber and told her to open her mouth wide. Awww skeet skeet got damn! To the last drop. But she disrespected me by going to the bathroom and spitting it out.
On my way back down I asked the room lady when she would be ready for that tip. When I went back down my dad was at the table with another chick. He told me to ask how much it would cost to take her with him. I said man we got some more places to hit and more chicks to check out. He said a man knows what he wants. I asked for how much time. He said unlimited time. So I made a deal with the chick 200,000 until 4 am. It was 8 pm then. We started walking out and the waiter chased me down for a tip. I gave him 5K and he was happy. I would have given him more had he not thwarted my picture taking efforts.
As we passed one of the casas I saw a chick and said hey I saw you in Atonis a few minutes ago. She was sexy too. We keep telling you the same chicks move around to different places. I only had 10K left I my pocket so I used it to get beverages for them on the way back to the hotel. I asked for the chick's ID so I could give it to the hotel lady. When we got to the desk I dropped the ID and told the lady my dad's room number. Then I ran up to get my ATM card to go grab some money. When I came back down they were still at the desk. The lady was saying something about paying extra money. She thought me and my dad were in the same room, so the girl would make the third guest. I explained to her that we each have our own room and they were booked for 2 people each. That is when I asked the policy. Just like other places you get to bring in one person. Any other people after that and you have to pay a joiner fee for them. Like 40K, which is half of the room price. I left to go to the ATM at the Colpatria building (didn't that used to be the BanColombia building?) and went back to drop the 200K for the girl off to my dad and told him to hide it until it was time for her to go.
I ran back down to Santa Fe; this time with a pocket full of money. First task was to get my hair cut. It was around 9 pm then. When I finished that and started walking around, things appeared to be dying down around 10. Oh fucking well. Know when to say when. I walked back to the hotel and ordered some food. Just as I walked in my room my dad called me asking about some taxi for the chick. I told him she is supposed to stay until 4. He said he was finished with her though. I said man you told me unlimited time so that is what I bargained for. If I had known you were only keeping her 2 or 3 hours then I would have bargained for less. I told him that she needs to be responsible for how she gets to where she is going next.
I had entirely too much food so I called my dad to see if he wanted the rest. He didn't so I told him to ask his girl. She did, so I brought it over for her. She answered the door ass nekkit. I think she ended up staying until 6 am. The week after, me, my dad and my middle brother were together. My dad started talking about Google translate. I said what do you know about Google translate. He said the girl had put it on his phone and that is how they were communicating in his room. He said my brother had just went in the other day and deleted the stuff in case my stepmom saw it.
*Santa Fe photos courtesy of Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra.
LatinaLover#1
12-25-20, 15:33
I was walking back around 15 and 22 after finishing up with a girl. I had put my mask in my pocket when I was with the girl. After I got out I bought a smoke and thought I'll put my mask on after I finished it. Unfortunately I waked into an ID check by the cops for a bunch of Venezuelanos. One of the cops stopped me for not wearing a mask. First he asked me for document. I wasnt carrying a copy of my passport either. Luckily I had a passport picture in my phone. I showed it to him and he was ok with that. I aslo pulled out my mask from my pocket an put it on showing him I had a mask. However he kept saying I was supposed to wear it all the time. If I need smoke she shows me I should pull down the mask but it should always be on my face. Then he takes his phone out and types out 300$ is the fine. I was confused. I asked him is it 30 mil pesos. He say no and types in 900 K pesos in his phone. I told him I don't have that kind of money on me and I can give him 50 k. Then this goes on and he keeps dropping his price and wouldn't go below 200 K. I told him all I have is 100 k and I showed it to him and rest of the change I told him I need for my taxi. He asked me to put the money in my jacket pocket as he won't take it from my hand. He then asked me to turn around to make it look like he was patting me down and took the 100 k from my pocket and let me go, again showing me in action to always wear the mask.
I have been wandering around SF for a week or so on my own (after taking the woodman tour on my first night) and this is the first significant event that happened to me other than the few usual grabbing your hands by aggressive chicas at night. I guess more cops are out there today for the Christmas curfew. I don't know the exact form of curfew. I think no alcohol sales is what it is other than shops closing at 10 pm. Not sure what time bars will close and how they will be open without serving alcohol. I went to Oxxo around 5 pm and the liquor section was sealed off.
My advice is if you see the cops (green fluorescent jackets) just cross the street and walk on the other side.It may be the first time you become a victim of the corruption in Latin America but it won't be the last. An old wing man of mine was famous for how to handle a crooked cop. He was say, I don't have any money so take me to the police station and I'll take care of this there. They never did.
Mr Enternational
12-25-20, 16:38
It may be the first time you become a victim of the corruption in Latin America but it won't be the last. An old wing man of mine was famous for how to handle a crooked cop. He was say, I don't have any money so take me to the police station and I'll take care of this there. They never did.You make yourself a victim. I have been asked in Dominican Republic about 20 times but never any other country. I have never given in. I have asked for the embassy and asked to be handed the citation, but I would never ask to be taken anywhere, especially to a police station.
Gringo Trooper
12-25-20, 16:54
Finally my report...Thanks for the report and excellent spinner! Now I understand what makes this city so great.
Cheers.
The Tall Man
12-25-20, 17:21
Well since everyone else has done their reporting, I might as well do mine. (If I can remember the details.) Me and my dad came into Bogota from Barranquilla on the 4th. Uber was at surge pricing: 28K downtown to San Francisco Hotel, and I had to wait for it to drop that low! Chilled out and relaxed a couple of hours waiting to hear from Kazeu. I finally hit him up and told him that we were about to head to Santa Fe. On the walk down I stopped at my chicken spot and got 2 pieces and arepas for 5K. Another 2 blocks and I was in Santa Fe standing on the corner eating my chicken out of the bag. When I finished we walked around to check out the scene. Touts kept trying to get us to come into the clubs but I told them I was waiting on my boy. Miguel at Troya made me promise to remember his name and ask for him when we came in, which I did end up doing.
Kazeu finally hit me up and said that he was in front of Kalifornia where the young Vennies hang out. We were right around the corner and headed up to meet him. The first stop was Troya. Not many people inside but I did see a chick that I liked. I ordered 2 Cokes for me and my dad and started trying to get acquainted with the chick. Miguel brought the drinks then Kazeu said man let's get the hell out of here. There are not many chicks here. I asked the guy how much the drinks were and he said 20K. WTF! I said yeah you are right. We better get the hell out of here. Kazeu said that was the new Covid price. Luckily the guy had not opened the drinks.
We went over to Atonis and chilled out. We ordered half bottle of Ron Medellin for 80K. I was debating which chick I wanted to choose. Then the chick I was talking to at Troya walked in. She came and sat down while I was sipping on my tasty beverage. I asked how old she was and she said 30. I said there is no fucking way. Your hands look 40. She said she was actually 29 but turning 30 at the end of the month. She pointed to her friend on the other side of the stage and asked if I wanted her to get her friend for my dad. It was a White chick with a bunch of tattoos. I said hell nawl. That broad looks drugged out. Don't be trying to give my dad your junkie friend. She started laughing.
I asked her how much she wanted to fuck and she said 70. I said no way then she dropped to 60. That sounded more like it. I told her to give me her number so I could hit her up later. She said that she lost her phone the other day when she was drunk. She sat it down somewhere then it disappeared. She told me she had to run do something and would come back soon.
Kazeu had run off somewhere and my dad was trying to decide on a chick. He had it narrowed down to 2. I said shit, take both of them. So I made him a deal for 50K for each girl and the room was 16K. I gave him 120K and off they went upstairs.
I was either trying to make a video or take some pictures inside the club on the sly and got busted by the waiter. Then I called a Vennie chick over and she was saying how she wanted 70K. I told her that was too damn much. She said minimum 55K. I told her that I would give her 60K if I could skeet in her mouth. She said sure. No debate or any talk of up charges. Don't know why this is so hard for some guys.
So I was just sitting and rubbing on the girl waiting for one of the guys to come back to the table because we still had liquor. Then one of the chicks my dad was with came running up to the table talking about he wanted more time. I was like shit you have only been gone 5 minutes. What does the 50K get. She said it was for 15 minutes. So I fork over another 120K and she runs back upstairs. Soon she was back at the table saying that he wanted me to come upstairs. I told her that I was not coming up there. My dad came back and said he did not have enough time to finish. I told him this was not a holiday resort. You have to get your business done in the allotted time. So 240K for 30 minutes down the drain. My dad just turned 70 by the way.
Kazeu said he was about to leave and I was about to take my girl upstairs. She told me I needed to pay 6K for the room. WTF? Why was my dad's room 16K then? Who cares. Got to the top of the stairs and the lady that assigns the room asked me for a tip. She was cute to me. I told her if she wanted a tip, she had to come get some of this dick. Me and old girl went off to the room for some fun. I kept a close eye on the clock. Got a little BBBJ then it was time for some old fashioned fucking. I anticipated the knock coming soon so I snatched off the rubber and told her to open her mouth wide. Awww skeet skeet got damn! To the last drop. But she disrespected me by going to the bathroom and spitting it out.
On my way back down I asked the room lady when she would be ready for that tip. When I went back down my dad was at the table with another chick. He told me to ask how much it would cost to take her with him. I said man we got some more places to hit and more chicks to check out. He said a man knows what he wants. I asked for how much time. He said unlimited time. So I made a deal with the chick 200,000 until 4 am. It was 8 pm then. We started walking out and the waiter chased me down for a tip. I gave him 5K and he was happy. I would have given him more had he not thwarted my picture taking efforts.
As we passed one of the casas I saw a chick and said hey I saw you in Atonis a few minutes ago. She was sexy too. We keep telling you the same chicks move around to different places. I only had 10K left I my pocket so I used it to get beverages for them on the way back to the hotel. I asked for the chick's ID so I could give it to the hotel lady. When we got to the desk I dropped the ID and told the lady my dad's room number. Then I ran up to get my ATM card to go grab some money. When I came back down they were still at the desk. The lady was saying something about paying extra money. She thought me and my dad were in the same room, so the girl would make the third guest. I explained to her that we each have our own room and they were booked for 2 people each. That is when I asked the policy. Just like other places you get to bring in one person. Any other people after that and you have to pay a joiner fee for them. Like 40K, which is half of the room price. I left to go to the ATM at the Colpatria building (didn't that used to be the BanColombia building?) and went back to drop the 200K for the girl off to my dad and told him to hide it until it was time for her to go..A fun read on this Christmas Day!
The apple does not fall far from the tree, hehehehehe looks like both you and the pop had a fun time.
Merry Christmas to all!
The Tall Man.
John Gault
12-25-20, 18:54
It may be the first time you become a victim of the corruption in Latin America but it won't be the last. An old wing man of mine was famous for how to handle a crooked cop. He was say, I don't have any money so take me to the police station and I'll take care of this there. They never did.That policy would work almost always. Problem is if you catch a cop who really doesn't like you and he does take you to the station.
I remember a time in Managua when I was stopped for not wearing a seat belt. After he said he was writing me a ticket I gave him $5 dollars worth of Cordobas and he let me go. I think the point I am trying to make is not only avoid going to the belly of the beast but if you did do something wrong than pay the piper.
LatinaLover#1
12-25-20, 23:43
That policy would work almost always. Problem is if you catch a cop who really doesn't like you and he does take you to the station.
I remember a time in Managua when I was stopped for not wearing a seat belt. After he said he was writing me a ticket I gave him $5 dollars worth of Cordobas and he let me go. I think the point I am trying to make is not only avoid going to the belly of the beast but if you did do something wrong than pay the piper.For 5 dollars yea pay the few bucks and move on but this cop wanted 300,000 a little different situation. This is outright abuse of a tourist.
For 5 dollars yea pay the few bucks and move on but this cop wanted 300,000 a little different situation. This is outright abuse of a tourist.He wanted 300 $, which is 900,000 pesos to be precise. Its surprising he had the nerve to ask such an amount as a fine for not wearing a mask. They assume American tourists are loaded.
If it happened to me again I would probably do the same thing. His objective is to extort money from you, so he is not going to listen to any justification. Try to negotiate and pay as little and get out of there. I don't see a point in complicating things by trying to do right in an area like SF and when you don't speak the language so well.
Mr Enternational
12-26-20, 02:58
He wanted 300 $, which is 900,000 pesos to be precise. Its surprising he had the nerve to ask such an amount as a fine for not wearing a mask. They assume American tourists are loaded.
If it happened to me again I would probably do the same thing. His objective is to extort money from you, so he is not going to listen to any justification. Try to negotiate and pay as little and get out of there. I don't see a point in complicating things by trying to do right in an area like SF and when you don't speak the language so well.Okay. I have this thing figured out now. I don't think he wanted $300. I think he was just rounding off and WARNING you that the fine is $300 since the fine actually is 936,320 pesos ($266). You could have said okay gracias and walked off. But instead YOU OFFERED money! LOL. At least you were not the guy saying take me to the police station! That would have really confused him. You got me over here dying man. And y'all are up here trying to give the cops a bad name when he was just trying to look out for you.
Then he takes his phone out and types out 300$ is the fine. I was confused. I asked him is it 30 mil pesos. He say no and types in 900 K pesos in his phone. I told him I don't have that kind of money on me and I can give him 50 k.
"Los infractores que desacaten las medidas sanitarias en poca de cuarentena pueden ser multados hasta con $936.320 pesos, castigo al que se exponen los ciudadanos que no usen tapabocas o lo utilicen de manera inapropiada, no respeten la distancia mnima entre personas, no acaten las normas en establecimientos o realicen actividades no permitidas durante esta poca de cuarentena. "
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